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Title: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM
Well ...somebody had to start it..  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 10, 2006, 09:54:12 AM
Test
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 10, 2006, 10:16:34 AM
Anyone at Tullyglass last night for the presentation dinner - saw a couple of posts on the old board that Sidearse made a complete tit out of himself as MC for the night.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 10, 2006, 11:10:43 AM
just checking things work. any changes to the team theis Sunday Slim or are they playing the with the same team? any nerves in the camp? a lot to live up to after us wining it last year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 10, 2006, 11:20:05 AM
The team hasn't been named yet, I'd imagine it will be the same as Sunday last with one change as we got a man red carded.

I'd say the squad was more nervous last week than this week as winning our own championship was the main priority and now that monkeys off the back there is no great pressure.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2006, 11:38:11 AM
Surely the pressure for the Antrim champs to retain the Ulster Club is still there isn't it? :)
Title: MFC 2006
Post by: aontroim on November 10, 2006, 12:15:46 PM
Dunloy was on the other board posting that St. Galls have been awarded the title.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 10, 2006, 12:33:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 10, 2006, 11:38:11 AM
Surely the pressure for the Antrim champs to retain the Ulster Club is still there isn't it? :)

hardly  ;D

as said before, anything from here on is a bonus. We'll give it a go yeah but there is no expectancy on Cargin winning Ulster, thats just silly.  :-\

jaysus but them new smilies are crap  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 10, 2006, 04:56:11 PM
Just jumping into our section, was at the T/Glass, absolute joke sidebottom should be more careful, forgetting himself and where his origins are.
Title: Slim Outs himself
Post by: passedit on November 10, 2006, 06:41:46 PM
http://p072.ezboard.com/fgaadiscussionboardfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=10594.topic&start=1241&stop=1256


I'd change that password again if i was you mate.


:D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 10, 2006, 07:04:57 PM
Gall's minors expecting to be playing Monaghan Harps in the Ulster minor I hear from an inside source. Real shame, was hoping they'd offer to play the game. Having experienced it last year, and admittedly it's about as far as my football career will go, it's a special feeling winning on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 10, 2006, 08:18:59 PM
How did someone sneak into your account slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 10, 2006, 08:46:41 PM
was @ tullyglass..........mr sidebottom won't be invited back methinks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on November 11, 2006, 09:40:24 AM
Just Moving across from the Dark side, back soon, good luck Clooney and the Dall!!!!!//
Title: Clean Sweep in Provincial Hurling
Post by: aontroim on November 12, 2006, 04:59:23 PM
Congratulations to Clooney Gaels (JHC) and Ruairi Óg (SHC) on making it a clean sweep of Ulster Hurling titles for Antrim Clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 12, 2006, 07:27:16 PM
Headed to Maghera, thought it was the pick of the Ties, how wrong can you be, absolutly dyre. In saying that i think that this year 06/07 Ballinderry will be too Physical and fit for anyone. Ballinderry for Ulster Title!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2006, 09:24:45 PM
Rossa camogs getting hot under the collars.

http://www.odonovanrossagac.com/

www.odonovanrossagac.com/petitiontks.asp  - only click on this link if you support their stand.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 13, 2006, 05:51:33 AM
Name that club!

Apart from the people whose pitch it is, please name where the photo of the Rossa Girls on the link was taken.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 13, 2006, 09:24:46 AM
Anyone hear what happened with the Sinn Fienn vote on the St Brides position for the game against the PSNI?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 13, 2006, 05:04:38 PM
Pictures of Greencastle's win over Ardoyne yesterday in the Ulster Junior Championship are now posted on the Greencastle website.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: becks on November 14, 2006, 10:52:00 AM
Could someone post the county minor football panel, havent got a chance to but the paper yet.
Title: Minor F'ball
Post by: aontroim on November 14, 2006, 11:14:39 AM
This doesnt look to be a panel of 24 so id say it's just a training squad and will be drastically cut in the new year.

P Fitzpatrick; B Lockard; Pierce Cusack; N Mc Alea (Sarsfields)
C Caldwell; J Donnelly (Gort na Mona)
C Heatly; B Rushe; J Ferran (St Pauls)
B Neeson; A Downey (St Johns)
D Birt (Dunloy)
P Graham; T Mc Cann; S Allen; A Maguire; D Mc Cann (Creggan)
N Mc Keever (Portglenone)
C Smyth (Lamh Dhearg)
P Mc Cann (Cargin)
P Fischer; M Jones; N Hawkins(Ardoyne)
L Maguire; S Finch P Magee (Rossa)
C Mc Veigh; K Mc Bride; D Trowlen; M Meleady (Aldergrove)
C Hughes; D kennedy; M Morgan(St Endas)
R Smith (St Malachys)
C Herrity (Lisburn)
M Grahame; PJ O'connell (Ahoghill)
M Magowan; A Gribbon; A Mc Caffery(St Galls)
N Mc Cann; P Gallagher (Glenavy)
C Donnelly; C Mackle; C Mooney; T Mc Crudden (St Brides)

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2006, 04:21:44 PM
Typical arrogance from Rossa and Ballycastle men. When clubs start realising that they do not have a divine right to stay in a certain league based on what they have done in the past the better. Not so long ago Naomh Gall was relegated, and rightly so, I'm sure our committee at the time tried to argue for staying in Division one but failed. We went down came back up and went on to win 5 Senior Championships in a row and an Ulster championship as well. That was the kick up the arse our club needed. For years Rossa have tried to stay in division one football but finally they were relegated.

Ballycastle have found themselves in a difficult position this year, but are not the worst team. As the league came to a close, they started to win games in October and against teams that could not be bother to turn up at this time of year. With one of there committee men on the Antrim fixtures committee, have they had word of the intended league changes and applied themselves a lot better than they did at the start of the year.
We played them and they came down and played the game as if it were championship. Had we the knowledge of a certain member of their club and the game that we were playing was a relegation play off match then I'm sure Naomh Gall would have played the game at a higher tempo and the result could have been different.

The county board at the start of the year said one up one down. Like everything they have done this year, they have went back on there word. County games would not control leagues games, lie number one, senior hurling would have reserve games played before them, lie number two. League would be decided by, one up from Division two and one down from division 1, lie number 3. League games would not be called off for silly reasons. Lie number 4.

Dare I say it. but I think the county would be better off if the previous county executive was still in control. If they have any balls, they should stick to there word
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
You have lost me a bit here skull, have new league structures been proposed/ agreed and if so what are they? I think its a bit off the mark to complain about the opposition trying in a league match by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:20:10 PM
apologies milltown row, read the St Galls part and assumed u were skull,. I am off to write out "You must pay more attention 300 times"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2006, 09:05:40 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:20:10 PM
read the St Galls part and assumed u were skull,.
huh?  :-\

Quote from: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
have new league structures been proposed/ agreed and if so what are they?
If its being muted in the halls of power then what can milltown do but complain if they are being kept in the dark about potential changes while other opposition (because of their links) are fully aware of them. This is an unfair advantage


Quote from: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
I think its a bit off the mark to complain about the opposition trying in a league match by the way.
So I'm assuming by that scb, that you don't understand the concept of playing league hurling and playing championship hurling and the reasons why the two games are different (although in theory they shouldn't be ....but they just are). If Ballycastle knew they had to beat StGalls to survive in Div 1, this would have given them a championship flavour to the game which St Gall couldn't have had due to the fact that they thought them and everyone else was just playing out the league just to get the match stats up before the County AGM to make things look better for "Antrim Hurling" at a High Level (Croke Park will be praising them for getting all their fixtures completed  :()....I digress ....anyway would you agree that St Gall were at a disadvantage

Feels a bit weird defending St Galls at the minute considering the minor football debarcle. There is nobody blameless in this disaster and Dunloy have to take a large chunk of that for creating the problem, but the fact St Galls turned down the opertunity to give both both sets of players their big day is sickening. Ask a Lamh Dearg player how he feels about the championship he won the year Cargin/StPauls got bucked out? There are no winners here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 17, 2006, 09:13:57 AM
Cargin/St Johns i think it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 17, 2006, 10:01:26 AM
Good luck to the Rossa Camogs on Sunday in the All Ireland club final. After all the messing about over the venue there's an important match to be won now. Go out and win it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2006, 10:07:41 AM
Sorry lads you picked me up on an argument I had with a Rossa man. My point is simple, is it fair to say that if a team knew that an impending change to the leagues was coming and that if they played out there remaining games against teams that did not know there was a change to the structures, would this not come across as underhand?

If we had have had the knowledge of Mr Donnelly who sits on the fixtures committee and is also a Ballycastle man. The skulduggery of it stinks. I have no problems with Ballycastle just the way things have been handled.

Regarding the Dunloy problem. The county board have refused Naomh Gall the game. Speaking to members of the team and some of the management they have said they wanted to play the game. Dunloy had a chance to put their case towards the Ulster council, have they done this appeal? There would be one or two people who have said they don't want the game played but the majority of players, members, and committee men/ladies want the game to go ahead.

This is the worst situation to be in and as far as I'm concerned we have not won any title. This happened to us against Glenarm many years ago in an Intermediate final and we were at Casement and on the pitch with referee there, and Glenarm didn't turn up. We asked for the game to be played and played the game. Only won by a point in the last minute but it was well worth it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 17, 2006, 10:31:53 AM
The appeal to ulster council must have been unsuccessful, the dunloy lads don't seem to be training anymore.  dissapointing after a terrific win over lamh dearg to not even get a shot at the match.  Obviously someone in dunloy made this call but it wasn't the players but its them thats being punished.  as are st galls,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2006, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2006, 10:07:41 AM

Regarding the Dunloy problem. The county board have refused Naomh Gall the game.

Well somebody is lying milltown because I have it on good authority that St Gall were asked twice if they would play the match
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2006, 11:39:03 AM
The county board did not even ask us to play the game. That's what I've been told. To be fair I'm not in the inner circle but would but would be speaking regularly with the senior members and committee, like I did on Saturday night and that was there answer. They could have been telling me porkies but...the fact of the matter is there was a ball's up and two sets of lads have missed out and it's a hollow victory.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2006, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2006, 11:39:03 AM
The county board did not even ask us to play the game. That's what I've been told.

As I've said...someone is lying
Title: Hurling leagues promotion and relegation
Post by: slow corner back on November 17, 2006, 09:58:58 PM
Skull First I apologise for referring to u in  the original post, as I said in my second post, thirty seconds later, I clearly was not paying attention. Secondly I played for a long time and I never once pulled on boots just to go out and fulfill a fixture, there is such a thing as pride in urself and ur jersey and complaining about the opposition trying to hard is a lame excuse. Thirdly anyone with even a fleeting knowledge of Antrim GAA will know that leagues structures are changed almost every year and certainly every second to third year. Yes you are correct to say this is unfair and unjust and my own club has both benifitted and suffered from it in the past as I am sure St Galls have, however it is not a huge surprise.
Anyway my question which no one answered/ knows the answer to is what are the proposed changes and how far down do they go.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2006, 11:11:12 AM
according to an "Antrim official" it's just hearsay and nothing will be changed. your right I've played every game to win whether it's Guess Who with my kids or hurling. but the fact remains that (and if you had have been there) they had a different degree of intensity in playing that game (ballycastle) if they had have played like that all year then they could have went a lot further than they did.

it's about time the sorted out the hurling leagues properly. the football leagues are a roaring success, even the lower leagues in hurling all the teams seem to be fighting for positions, but the senior league has been a joke for a number of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: wondering on November 18, 2006, 11:48:29 AM
wat about these senior football trials has anybody impressed? what does everyone think the team and panel wiil be?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gaafan123 on November 18, 2006, 12:56:49 PM
who should be antrim captain tis year? if mr mcgourty was elected captain he may curtail his off field antics and prove very beneficial to th team.. wot do u think?
Title: Antrim Captain
Post by: saffronman on November 18, 2006, 01:59:43 PM
giving mc gourty captaincy would make his ego trip even more theatrical, i honest dont know how he could captain a team, any game i have seen him in he has given abuse to every man that makes a mistake and even towards management, this isn't the behaviour of a county captain! i hear he and fellow st galls men havent made a show at trials as yet, interesting!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on November 19, 2006, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: saffronman on November 18, 2006, 01:59:43 PM
giving mc gourty captaincy would make his ego trip even more theatrical, i honest dont know how he could captain a team, any game i have seen him in he has given abuse to every man that makes a mistake and even towards management, this isn't the behaviour of a county captain! i hear he and fellow st galls men havent made a show at trials as yet, interesting!

I am great believer in the alledged rumour that he,s wrestling with issues of comming out of the Closit, emdrace it kevin it does,nt make you a bad person.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Forgot me Boots on November 19, 2006, 10:21:34 PM
If the St Galls players, or any player for that matter, don't appear for trials and dont get picked will the supporters stand behind the manager for taking a stand? Or will it be a case of we pick the best available and to hell with the boys who go everytime and are prepared to stand up and be counted?

Comments
Title: Hurling Manager
Post by: slow corner back on November 20, 2006, 09:05:48 PM
Any white smoke from Casement yet about the managers job? The decision was meant to be confirmed tonight wasnt it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 21, 2006, 08:05:21 AM
Apologies if I have missed something on this thread before about this but is it the case a few of the St Galls contingent did not attend trials/are not putting themselves forward because of what happened to Culbert?

So anyone in the know - is this a training panel with a view to maybe bringing people on board later in the year/start of the season?

And finally...any word on the hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 10:00:51 AM
It was confirmed last night that sambo and woody have been appointed as the county hurling managers. They won the vote from the floor , which was not as close as a lot of people expected.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 21, 2006, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 10:00:51 AM
It was confirmed last night that sambo and woody have been appointed as the county hurling managers. They won the vote from the floor , which was not as close as a lot of people expected.

I thought this was to be decided by a separate committee?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 21, 2006, 11:07:59 AM
It that not very harsh - I cant claim to know very much about club hurling or the last manager but I go to the majority of the county hurling games and Jim McKernan did everything that was asked of him.

On what basis was this decision made? Is it simply that the position is up for grabs every year? In the interests of continuity this seems a bad decision
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 11:08:09 AM
there was a seperate committee, which was made up of the County chairman and secretary, someone from Creggan and Ahoghill (who seemingly have stated they know nothing about hurling) and 2 others. They made the recommendation that Sambo and Woody get the post, that is how the vote took place.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 21, 2006, 11:25:27 AM
Sorry for my ignorance aontroim abu, but do these committees give their reasons for their selection before the floor vote?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 11:58:04 AM
Sorry skull havent a clue, if anyone out there does please post
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 21, 2006, 12:34:11 PM
well i for one will wish the two lads all the best for the antrim senior hurling job, two terrific players in there day, they know how to win in a saffron jersey and will have the respect of most of the players.  good luck indeed,

i do have my concerns, i wonder what Sambo will take the reins, the one who in his Irish News column lambasted Dinny Cahill for the lack of a thriving club scene in Antrim or the Sambo who along with Woody suffocated the life out of the minor competitions this year in pursuit of a big scalp with there talented minor team.

I'm open to correction here, maybe it wasn't there fault only 4 meaningless minor hurling league matches were playd this year, but i been led to believe it was, their preparation of the minor team being to such an extent it prohibited the development of other players

As a club hurler i hope the dog wags the tail this year and we get a thriving club scene, which may very well be for the benefit of the county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 21, 2006, 01:14:25 PM
I doubt it very much, i would love to have heard there interview and wheat they promised for the county team, have they got a money backer? and will they have a say in how the county is going to sort out the hurling leagues. also who is taking the minor hurling team?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Quarterback on November 21, 2006, 02:01:23 PM
Kust reading the irishnews during lunch and was appauled at the comments of kevin mc gourty.  To stand up and say that jody gormley will win nothing with the panel he has picked.  Its a disgrace, wat gives him the rite to judge, wat has he don, hes an average fottie player who is a slabber on the field, he appears in the irish news every so ofteh when he says 'boo' I tell ya if he was a tyrone man and he said what he did about micky hartem it would be bye bye mc gourty...Pr**k
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on November 21, 2006, 02:23:40 PM
Were you from Quarter back??????
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on November 21, 2006, 02:25:01 PM
Sound like a boy that mc gourty has got the better off.  Hes 100% right in what he is saying maybe stand back and look at your opinions.  Far from an average footballer either, walk onto any ulster team - jealousy is a wonderfull thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 21, 2006, 02:28:47 PM
McGourty thinks he's Jesus! Too big headed - Nobody is bigger than the County and he is learning!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2006, 02:41:16 PM
Lol, wise up.  McGourty is a decent football player, but he is a mouth and what has he done in the game to warrant slabbering to the irish news week in week out, the fact thats hes a student at his age must contribute to his frequent availability for spouting.  He would not get on the tyrone or armagh teams, and would not get on derry. down or donegals either.  Whats has he done for antrim, Ive never seen him score too much. He was class aginst fermanagh in the championship in 2006 too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 21, 2006, 02:53:12 PM
Why was Sambo and Woody given a 3 year term and McKernan only a one year term?

Forgive my ignorance but how does the appointment of Antrim managers work??
Title: Re: amninc
Post by: Quarterback on November 21, 2006, 03:15:50 PM
If anything the younger brother is much more of a talanted player,...Im not jealous of a man that is a nobody....why would i b?  It just annoys me to c a man slabber about his county and new manager....I dont want to read this in the paper....He isnt an excellent player, hes an average player....AVERAGE, and to say that he got the better of me,,,,,i doubt it....Lets just day i havent been sitting watching all ireland finals from behind the box in 03 and 05......
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on November 21, 2006, 03:21:48 PM
As everyone agrees McGourty is a mouth piece and a p***k i dont know him personally but he seems the type who you couldnt like even if you reared him, his outburst in todays paper does not suprise me at all, there'll be plenty more before his career is finished. he is a good footballer, sometimes untouchable but most tmes i have watched him he is more interested in slabbering to the ref and his team mates instead of getting stuck in! Jody is completely right to pick players who are committed to the cause and want to wear the jersey with pride and will not cry off  from training because they are hungover or sitting on a high stool as is the case with the afore mentioned!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 21, 2006, 03:31:23 PM
Good luck to Woody & Sambo. They have their work cut out for them. I hope they have a plan. Personnaly I would have stuck with Jingo for another year. He took the job when we were very low and noone else wanted it. He did all he could for the county in the circumstances and now he's been shafted by the clubs. He'd be right to feel bitter.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 21, 2006, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: saffron on November 21, 2006, 02:53:12 PM
Why was Sambo and Woody given a 3 year term and McKernan only a one year term?

Forgive my ignorance but how does the appointment of Antrim managers work??

I think someone posted on here (or the old board) before that if the clubs nominate someone else for the role then the county executive are obliged to look into it and interview all parties again, so IMO  the three year term thing isn't really worth a jot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 21, 2006, 09:33:51 PM
Sambo & Woody were approached by the Antrim players to put their names forward this year - i think that speaks volumes for the high regard Jingo was held in.

Regards the selection committee - the non-hurling members would have every right to be there for a different perspective and if the creggan member is who i'm thinking of then the candidates will have had little chance to try and bullshit their way into the job!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Forgot me Boots on November 21, 2006, 10:11:19 PM
McGourty may shut his mouth, who died and made him captain? Was he prepared to stand up and be counted with all the other Antrim Players, go to training with all the other players, thats the question that needed answered, he has answerd NO he can f**k away off. Give Jody a chance. i posted previously about where peoples loyalities would lat if this sort of thing happened, i know where mine are. If we are to progress we need unity from within the entire countys footballers and sadly at the minute we dont seem to have it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 22, 2006, 08:13:19 AM
Well its done now so all the best to Woody & Sambo in there new positions. What are their aims for next season? Avoid relegation from Div 1 (it will be hard with the re-structuring), win Ulster SHC and win a match in the All Ireland group stage. Who can we beat in the All Ireland? Laois or Dublin at most I'd say.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2006, 08:23:27 AM
Mc Gourty is only captain of Queens. read the article and there is nothing on it thats out of order. these people phone him up like everybody else at this time of year to fill a column, Kevin is only too willing to spout off. people on this site are over reacting. If he's not playing for Antrim so what!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 22, 2006, 08:29:44 AM
Obviously wish Sambo and Woody all the best and hope they can move us forward but if you give someone the job they achieve what was asked of them and then they are immediately replaced what does that say? Is it a pre-requisite that your the players choice cause if so lets just be done with it and ask the squad who they want managing them. But as has been said its done now and  hope it goes well.

Read the Irish News article McGourty says very little in it and was obviously asked for his opinion - he shouldnt give it of course but cant see the big deal this time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 09:03:40 AM
Is it just me or is the Ulster SHC a dead duck? The sell-by date seems to be up on it... The highlight for me was 1992 - massive crowd - about 20,000 in the sun at CASEMENT .... (OF COURSE THE OFFICIAL ATTENDANCE WAS 12,000) Drumcree in the mid 1990s coincided with th e final and I feel that Antrim have outgrown the competition ... I mean Down have no ambition beyond the Christy Ring Cup... Any views?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 09:06:42 AM
Sorry - just to clarify the Drumcree quote ... The final was played for about 4 years in a row on Drumcree Sunday and the crowds were well down and the atpmosphere was unreal.... The Ulster Hurling Final has yet to recover it's sense of occasion .. The Saturday night final in 2003 is another thing...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 22, 2006, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: cville on November 22, 2006, 09:03:40 AM
Is it just me or is the Ulster SHC a dead duck? The sell-by date seems to be up on it... The highlight for me was 1992 - massive crowd - about 20,000 in the sun at CASEMENT .... (OF COURSE THE OFFICIAL ATTENDANCE WAS 12,000) Drumcree in the mid 1990s coincided with th e final and I feel that Antrim have outgrown the competition ... I mean Down have no ambition beyond the Christy Ring Cup... Any views?

The Ulster championship lost its meaning when it stopped becoming a stepping stone to the full AI series. Now it is a meaningless competition which is good to win, but that's it.

Down are only competitive at Christy Ring level at the minute and hopefully Antrim with their greater resources will make inroads into the qualifying series of the Liam McCarthy and I'm not talking about beating Laois or Dublin, but Offaly or Limerick is who Terrence and Dominic should to aspiring to.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 22, 2006, 01:04:10 PM
the ulster championship is done, even with Armagh joining next year to make another game. would be interested in hearing everyones views on the idea Sambo had a while back about Antrim joining the Leinster championship. what about joining senior only, or at all levels? obviously this will ruin hurling in Ulster but as he said at the time Antrim people have to be selfish and look after their own house
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 22, 2006, 02:11:20 PM
The same was asked of Galway and they dont seem keen - they've also remained more or less competitive in a province with only themselves - what happens to the Ulster Championship then?

Given the constant complaints about club hurling in Antrim on this board are we not better off seeing were an improvement in the club hurling structures takes us before we decide
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: BottleOfStout on November 22, 2006, 02:11:36 PM
Absolutely,  this years events killed the Ulster Championship.  I believe it is irrevelant to Antrim now.   The heady days of  the early 90s couldl only be repeated if Antrim and Down and / or Derry can get relatively competitive at All-Ireland level and even then with no connection between Ulster Championship and All-Ireland it has no purpose.  Maybe the the 10000-15000 crowns would return ( 20000 never happened)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 03:01:55 PM
Ref - 20,000 at Ulster Hurling Final? Try this one for size

http://www.sportsfile.com/fotoweb/Preview.fwx?position=2&archiveType=ImageFolder&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=jim%20close&fileId=4C3ABA64E9D5C430719D19E637E06F040B41EBD67AFD4DB45349769D3DA29DA5FC788D58B16C1545D9DFF19DCC0CAFF51CD2FE7937D6917B92F2CC2E300E

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
Sorry - link may be dead .. go to google, enter sportsfile ie, enter as guest, type in Jim Close - it's the black and white one
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2006, 04:28:28 PM
McKernan astonished at snub

Antrim hurling manager Jim McKernan
22 November 2006


Jim McKernan has issued a statement criticising the Antrim county board for failing to ratify him for a second year as senior hurling manager despite leading the Saffrons to Christy Ring and Ulster success.

McKernan was overlooked by the county board in favour of Sambo McNaughton and Dominic McKinley, despite an excellent debut year as manager in 2006.

"To say I am extremely disappointed is an understatement, I am totally astonished not to be allowed to implement year two of our three-year strategy after a very successful year which we exceeded all expectations and targets," said McKernan.

"The addition of Mick O'Connell to our management team makes the decision by the county board even more difficult to accept. My record stands for itself. Last year no one wanted this job when Antrim was in decline, it was a poisoned chalice, it had no viable vision or go forward strategy. This position has been turned round and now the players and supporters and my management team can hold our heads high.

"At the start of the year Antrim Hurling was in turmoil, they were relegated from the Liam McCarthy Cup, player confidence was decimated, and the team was in decline," said Kernan, who went on to point out that under his managerial reign the county retained their place in the NHL Division 1 with wins over Galway and Laois, ran All-Ireland champions Kilkenny to two points, won the Christy Ring Cup, claimed the Ulster SHC and reached all the targets set out by the county board at the start of the year.

"If the selection process was based on achievements, track record and effort then I cannot understand the county board's decision not to install us for another year, but that is in the past.

"I would like to personally thank my management team and players for their commitment and professionalism especially to Paul McKillen and Paul Boyle without whom our achievements would not have been met. It is with great regret that we were not allowed to achieve our full potential as a management team thus preventing us delivering Antrim into a top eight position in the country in 2007.

"Finally as a true Antrim man I would like to offer my sincere best wishes to the new senior hurling management team and I hope they achieve the goals that we had set for 2007 season."


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 22, 2006, 04:38:02 PM
Quote from: cville on November 22, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
Sorry - link may be dead .. go to google, enter sportsfile ie, enter as guest, type in Jim Close - it's the black and white one

On a side note, i think that caption is wrong. That certainly isn't Danny Hughes in the picture for two reason. Danny always wore a red helmet, that guy thrashing weeds isn't wearing any and secondly Down were sponsored by either Kirsten Hunick (sp) or the Ulster bank in 92 and there's no sponsor on the jerseys. My guess it is the minor game the same day.

The point about the crowds is right though, they were far larger then and maybe the odd exception in recent years most notably was the year of the draw and replay, possibly two to three years ago now when a decent crowd turned up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 22, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
Impressive crowd alright but Johnnycool is right. Didn't Danny Hogg ware a beard around that time. That isn't Jim Close either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 06:35:15 PM
I think you're right on the photo - my guess would be 1991 - as that was the last year they both had the old style jerseys ... 92 the year Down won was the biggest crowd - although the 1995 draw was up there also... since then it has lost any sense of value ... Just think that 1992 was the peak of the Ulster revival ... you recall that the previous summer Antrim fell to Kilkenny in an epic ... also that year Antrim played Down in November in a top of the table clash in Division one of the league... On the stand side and at the concrete behind the goal you couldn't turn a sweet in your mouth ... Now at Casement it's just the die-hards... 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2006, 08:15:57 PM
I  think Jody would need to get the likes of McGourty on his side as he's one of their potential matchwinners with a few good years ahead of him. I actually thought Conor may have received the call-up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 23, 2006, 10:06:38 AM
how disd creggan get 8 on the squad
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 23, 2006, 10:09:32 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on November 22, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
Impressive crowd alright but Johnnycool is right. Didn't Danny Hogg ware a beard around that time. That isn't Jim Close either.
you're 100% right that isnt Jim Close. it is the minor game from 1992 and it is Joe Boyle form Rossa playing for Antrim, dont know who the Down player is
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 23, 2006, 10:17:37 AM
JUST TO REFRESH - ANTRIM DOWN GAME CASEMENT 1992 - GO TO SPORTSFILE IRELAND - TYPE IN JIM CLOSE - LOOK AT THE B W PHOTO...

Agree that it's not Jim Close... agree that it is the 92 minor final ... I had expressed the view that the Ulster Hurling Final once attracted near 20,000 people.... 92 was the biggest ever.... not a kick in the arse off it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 23, 2006, 10:21:14 AM
oneill, i think its time you removed your tongue from Sean McGourty's hole. Ok, you work with the scruffy tr**p-big deal. Connor McGourty for the Senior team? Get a f**king grip. He needs 2 more years before looking at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 23, 2006, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: cville on November 23, 2006, 10:17:37 AM
JUST TO REFRESH - ANTRIM DOWN GAME CASEMENT 1992 - GO TO SPORTSFILE IRELAND - TYPE IN JIM CLOSE - LOOK AT THE B W PHOTO...

Agree that it's not Jim Close... agree that it is the 92 minor final ... I had expressed the view that the Ulster Hurling Final once attracted near 20,000 people.... 92 was the biggest ever.... not a kick in the arse off it!
ok ok cville - calm your jets before you burst a blood vessel. FFS im only pointing out who really is in the photo
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 23, 2006, 10:26:51 AM
Thanks for that ...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Antrim__Lad on November 23, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on November 23, 2006, 10:09:32 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on November 22, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
Impressive crowd alright but Johnnycool is right. Didn't Danny Hogg ware a beard around that time. That isn't Jim Close either.
you're 100% right that isnt Jim Close. it is the minor game from 1992 and it is Joe Boyle form Rossa playing for Antrim, dont know who the Down player is

yep, its not Jim Close, it is Joe Boyle from Rossa.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on November 23, 2006, 12:26:25 PM
Slim,
i agree that Cj not ready for county senior but u can say the same thing about crozier and tomas mccann
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 23, 2006, 12:29:04 PM
Mickey Culbert didnt agree when he had them playing in his last few games!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 23, 2006, 12:35:46 PM
Your boy cj could be good, give him a year or too. He did well for ur minors this year, but there has been a few more impressive minors around ulster in recent years who havent went straight into senior teams.  As for the older fella, well hes a different story.
I agree that maybe there shud be more st galls players there.  But this mcgourty debate is frustrating.  Yes he maybe shud be on the panel, but to say he wud get on any team in ulster and be many's main man is nonsense.  He has done very little for antrim to suggest differently, and u can hardly read alot into university football. Fair dues, it is good standard, but scoring a few points in a uni match against hung-over players a few years younger than urself doesnt make u great.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on November 23, 2006, 12:43:01 PM
ur right, culberts last few games...in the tommy murphy cup!! when the only players for selection were the 1's who could be bothered!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Frank The Tank on November 23, 2006, 04:03:36 PM
Slim

It's fair to say that the McGourtys are not everyone's cup of tea. But if you have to resort to scummy remarks like that it doesn't say much for you.

My advice to you kido, as one of the characters of this site, is to stop giving them so much bloody air time!
I will just this once.

Kevin McGourty has never produced for Antrim. Why? Because you need a different mentality at that level. Conor McG is an exciting talent. Will he produce at Inter-County Senior level or will he throw toys out of the pram at every opportunity like big bro?
Already showing signs of serious arrogance, I fear the worst.   
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2006, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on November 23, 2006, 10:21:14 AM
oneill, i think its time you removed your tongue from Sean McGourty's hole. Ok, you work with the scruffy tr**p-big deal. Connor McGourty for the Senior team? Get a f**king grip. He needs 2 more years before looking at it.

Good man Slim, some things never change. Luckily enough, I've been living in Antrim for almost a decade now and know that you represent the 1% that give the county a bad name. I think if you ask Sean McGourty he'll tell you he'd prefer to throttle me for some of the things I've posted on here, but he'll not get the chance as I don't work with him, which, as you say, is a big deal?

Finally, from what I've seen, young Conor is the most exciting forward in Antrim football right now, light years ahead of many of his older contemporaries in terms of class. Not many have scored 0-2 in an All-Ireland Club Final. Not many have landed the best point of the day against Nemo Rangers...and that's before the age of 18. He's young (18/19?), but he's good enough. I can't think of one Antrim county forward I'd have before him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2006, 12:23:15 AM
Flipping back to hurling

What opinions do you (who are interested) have on the following questions

With Jingo not going quietly, this has obviously added to the pressure Sambo and Woody will be under to deliver the goods next year. What I would like to understand is

1. What are the goods which they need to deliver? What I mean is, has a definition of "SUCCESS" been defined for them or more importantly, has a definition of "SUCCESS" been defined for Antrim hurling and is there a possibility that the those two objectives if they exist (which I have to admit I don't believe they do) are opposed to each other, thereby making FAILURE inevitable at AT LEAST one level if not two?

2. Taking these questions forward, what are your expectations of the Div 1 club league next year? (even after this years disaster..which the County board are still making excuses for)

3. How many of you believe that the number of intercounty matches in the summer months and the subsequent lack of club matches is directly ruining the game for the local communities?

4. Have you any suggestions to improve the current situation with club matches(which has existed for 10 years or more)?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 24, 2006, 08:49:08 AM
1.   here are my views for what it's worth:

With the amount of posts on various sites (Hogan stand, Antrim site, and this one) and from club players the County will have to improve the leagues or it will be the only thing that the County board will be remembered for. I'm hoping against hope that they fix the leagues this year.

12 teams for division one, two way league if reserve games are to be played then all teams need to have two teams, Glenariff need to have two teams. These games have to be played on a Sunday. Games against local teams can both be played during the bright nights, not like we had this year when we were fixed to play Portaferry, Cushendall, and Ballygalget, mid week when there was no chance of two games being played. Hosting clubs should put on a spread for fans coming down and put on discount prices for players for a couple of pints (drivers can have coke....cola) this will hopefully bring back the craic the clubs had years ago. During the period that the north Antrim Feis is on the Belfast teams should run off a competition with senior hurling teams from Belfast, division one teams to not play their county players.

If we are leaving the reserve teams out this year then the reserve teams to be dropped down into division 2 with two leagues open draw at the start of the year and games to be played on a Friday night or Monday night. This should free up fringe players of the senior panel to be available for their senior teams on the Sunday (a senior team needs 5 to 6 subs to be competitive otherwise players think they are guaranteed a place on the team)

Championship should be a straight knockout. Reserve teams play the same team before the senior game. Means players wont play both.

We wrap up the county players in cotton wool before big games, if Sambo and Woody have a panel of players fighting for each position then there is no need to have this 7 or 10 day rule stopping games, absolute madness, the county players need competitive games before the intercounty games, if they get injured there should be players chomping at the bit to get on and impress. I could go on have to start work now...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 24, 2006, 08:53:48 AM
Where did I say CJ wasn't a quality prospect? No doubt he is and given time will be a top class player. Throwing an 18 year old lad in at the deep end against fully grown men is a surefire way to get them wrecked. Sure, keep him and his likes on the U21's and let him play a full year with his own senior team before making the giant step from Inter County minor to Senior!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 24, 2006, 01:41:23 PM
players like donnie brennan of laois have done it before.clarke wasnt much older when he startted playing for armagh,and no offence but it would be alot harder to break into these teams than antrim from what i have saw of their most recent panel
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 24, 2006, 05:01:25 PM
theskull1

my own thoughts on the matter is, as i suspect is your own.  that the success for antrim hurling and sucess of the antrim hurlers are two mutually exclusive objectives (esp under this management).  For Sambo and Woody to be successful they will seek to bring the level of preparation up that of many of the top southern teams.  I don't think they will quantify success in games won but in the competitiveness the antrim team bring in each game, training and preparation will go to a new level.

success for antrim hurling i believe to be something different, i remember a time going to club hurling matches every other sunday, the crowds were fantastic the atomsphere great and me as a person who played football first became more and more involved in hurling.  to my mind that is success and has been missing for a few years.  Success is a thriving club scene. 

can a club scene thrive with the sheer amount of time required for the county team to succeed.  hence i believe its one or the other or neither

as for what i suspect will happen next year, not entirely sure but i don't expect regular matches, possibly 3/4 matches in quick succession then nothing for months
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling sucess
Post by: slow corner back on November 24, 2006, 09:37:01 PM
What represents success for Woody and Sambo
Minimum, Win at least one of the regular 5 NHL matches and be competitive in the other 4 ie loose by 5/6 points at most. This would place Antrim in Div 2 for the 2008 season. Championship Win Ulster and in group stages win at least one game and be competitive in other two
Moderate, Win two national league games, we would still end up in Div 2 and win one championship game and loose second by 1 point/ dodgy ref, list any of our usual excuses
Real sucess Gain place in Div 1 for 2008, eight team league remember. Qualify for all ireland quarter final. I am not holding my breath.

Leagues
I have always favoured eight team leagues as we had a few years back played home and away. So what if Rossa and Ballycastle drop into Div 2 they are not that good at present, that would give us
Div 1 Loughgiel,C,Dall,Portaferry, Ballycran,Ballygalget,Glenarriffe,Dunloy, St Johns
Div 2 St Galls,Rossa, Ballycastle,Lamh dearg, Stpauls, Sarsfields, C,Dun,Tir Na Og
Div 3 Carey, Gorts,Glenarm,Armoy,Glenravel,McDs,Ahoghill,St Endas,
These would be competitive leagues with every1 fighting to get promoted or avoid relegation. We need something at stake in games. You could certainly attempt reserve leagues for Div 1 and 2 even if they were only played on a one way basis, I would expect a lot of midweek games and u cant play senior and reserve on a wednesday night, altough you could play reserve games midweek before county matches so maybe home and away?
Leagues to be played during April, May, June and July. August set aside for group championship as per this year which I thought was quite good.
And before any of u ask I just relegated my own club to div 3

Will any of this come to fruition, probably not as there are too many vested intrests, Ballycastle do not want to be in Div2 in their centenary year for one and Sambo and Woody will probably ban hurling for 4 months of the year. Heres hoping I am wrong about them.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2006, 11:52:59 PM
you have backed up my conspiracy theory, Ballycastle have been trying to win games to stay up as they know of the impending leagues changes.

thats a competitive league slow corner back but we can still have a ten team two way league that would be competitive. Ulster hurling league could be played in April and march then leagues start in may and championship august.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Frank The Tank on November 27, 2006, 11:38:54 AM
Re: Club Management Appointments

After the recent appointment of MM at Creggan, it seems that Antrim Club Football is an attractive proposition after all.
Has any one heard of any other possible appointments?? Are St.Galls staying internal?

Any truth to the rumour, Delargy is taking Portglenone? 39 steps; you are bound to know?

Are the newly promoted Gort na mona and moneyglass gona break the bank too?
Will Cargin keep JC for another year? Have a feeling this marriage could end up like Josies posterior i.e. Rather pear shaped!!

Replies.........
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2006, 01:21:01 PM
You've actually checked out Josies ass???  :-[

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Frank The Tank on November 27, 2006, 02:01:21 PM
Is that the best reply you can come up with skull?

very poor form........folklore has it when once Josie was asked in arby's carpark after a disco:

"What are ye Josie, a man or a woman"? Josie replied.......

"What the fxck does that look like ye wnker?"    as she produced a mamoth of an unshaven punani..........

Josie subject closed.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 27, 2006, 02:02:55 PM
*shudders*

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2006, 05:12:18 PM
Well I always heard the one about her propositioning a fella outside arbys one night

"Curt me or I give you a kickin'" she said
after short consideration he replies
"I'll take the kickin'"  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 27, 2006, 09:33:59 PM
In reply to Milltown,
You may well be right about Ballycastle and the league changes I am from Armoy and would not be that up to speed with what they are up to. I just liked the eight team leagues because they were very competitive and when we were good enough for the second division we were involved in a lot of good competitive matches. Personal highlight beating Loughgiel in Loughgiel which has only happened once in my lifetime with Armoy and is unlikely to happen again for a very very long time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2006, 10:00:42 PM
How are things in Armoy in relation to hurling SCB? What are your numbers like at the  juveniles levels? Have you got interested coaches? We don't tend to hear too much about what's going on armoy yet we're only a few miles away
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 27, 2006, 10:11:53 PM
Things are at a pretty low ebb up here. We dropped to the junior championship this year and could not even win it. I am not taking anything away from Ahoghill who beat us well on the day but its not that many years since we used to be winning that championship with our reserves.
As for the juveniles we have been unable to field an underage team as Armoy for about six years now. We combined with Carey to form Glenshesk at underage but even then sometimes struggle to get teams out. As for our underage coaching, there are some good people involved with Glenshesk but if I was being totally honest I suspect that since Glenshesk formed Carey have pulled more than 50% of the weight in mentoring team organising etc.
Basically we have spent 10-15 years improving our club rooms, pitch car park etc etc which are now very good. Unfortunately if you put all your effort into that there is not a lot left for coaching players as is evidenced by our league performances
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2006, 12:44:32 AM
In fairness SCB, I think too many administrations are becoming more and more interested in faciities and are neglecting the most important area within their clubs..development of young people within their community. I have noticed this within my own club and it has had a noticable affect. I think it's time the penduleum swung the other way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on November 28, 2006, 01:15:43 AM
Have to agree with you skull. I was thinking exactly the same this week.
Title: Re: hugh mcgettigan
Post by: goldenyears on November 28, 2006, 10:32:24 AM
folks, can anyone give me a background or opinion on hugh mcgettigan? he was a selector under brian white? whats his coaching/managerial capability etc etc. thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 28, 2006, 10:33:50 AM
he managed Creggan there for a few years before they got Mickey Moran in. He didnt win anything with them but i wouldnt read much into that as they're shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on November 28, 2006, 10:42:26 AM
slim thats a bit of cargin shite talk, to be fair to creggan they havent the selection of players that other big clubs like yours have but their committed to the jersey and want to improve. i thought mcgettigan did as much as he could with the players available to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 28, 2006, 10:45:56 AM
don't get me wrong, I've seen McGettigan in action close hand and think he's a good manager-his man management is excellent. Top bloke.

However, Cargin shite talk it is not, Creggan are shite. Though they have 8 players on the County Panel at the minute so who knows!!  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 29, 2006, 12:44:24 PM
under 21's this weekend, who's left in it? is it at semi final stage with us, Gort na Mona, St Galls and St Johns or is there more?

Gallsman are u playing? its all a bit farcical playing it in December like. typical  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Gnevin on November 29, 2006, 12:48:21 PM
Whats a realistic goal the Antrim hurlers this year ?
Title: Casement Park Social Club
Post by: reiteoir on November 29, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
I hear that the Casement Social Club meeting was held last night and there are a few members looking to break away from the County Board. The County Chairman is always the Chairman of Casement and the Secretary and Treasurer are also the County Secretary and Treasurer, well these boys want to be able to fill these posts themselves. That means then that the GAA will have no control over the place. From what I can gather the County solicitor got involved.

The way I see it is that if these boys take Casement Social club away from the control of the GAA then they should be turfed out as the money generated by the club is used for our teams.

I admit my opinion is based on third hand info but the ring leader is a real shit stirrer. Anybody know the craic?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 29, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
Minors are playing in the Ulster Competition at St Pauls. Not sure if the Jonnies game is on. Cant believe the county did not sort out the minor final......Hollow victory
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 30, 2006, 02:40:45 AM
U21? Slim, the last I heard of the U21 was back in August when we beat Aldergrove and reckoned the semi with the Johnnies would be the following week. Haven't heard a f**king thing since! I'm coming home for the minor game this weekend, lots of lads still there from our wonder team last year, hopefully they can go further!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 09:57:07 AM
does any1 know what the craic is with the res champ! were sarfields chucked out ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 10:15:18 AM
also i heard the other nite that frank delargy is the new portglenyin boss an paddy mcneill who trained the county seniors last year, is training them. u heard it here first !!
heard hugh mcgettigan has been approached bout a few jobs aswell!
anyone else hear any news of new managers in the county, who will be takin galls next year, mcgourtys da maybe?
Title: You heard it here first - I don't think so
Post by: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 10:15:18 AM
also i heard the other nite that frank delargy is the new portglenyin boss an paddy mcneill who trained the county seniors last year, is training them. u heard it here first !!
heard hugh mcgettigan has been approached bout a few jobs aswell!
anyone else hear any news of new managers in the county, who will be takin galls next year, mcgourtys da maybe?

I have a feeling this won't be happening if what I've heard is true, mind you you couldn't make it up. According to our chairman, this Delargy fella approached one of our "stars" asking him to move to Portglenone and he would pay him expenses! Disgraceful you might think, but it gets funnier.

Apparently Delargy didn't even have the job confirmed when this happened, and Portglenones committee found out what he had been doing they promptly ruled him out of the running (to their credit). This came from a call from the Portglenone secretary to our chairman to let him know they knew nothing about Delargys tapping up so I'd say its true enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 01, 2006, 12:33:49 PM
and where would you be from? at least til we guess the 'star'
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 12:46:34 PM
Wouldn't be a million miles from yourselves Slim, so that makes it one of three. Don't particularly want to say much more than that.
Title: Re: You heard it here first - I don't think so
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 10:15:18 AM
also i heard the other nite that frank delargy is the new portglenyin boss an paddy mcneill who trained the county seniors last year, is training them. u heard it here first !!
heard hugh mcgettigan has been approached bout a few jobs aswell!
anyone else hear any news of new managers in the county, who will be takin galls next year, mcgourtys da maybe?

I have a feeling this won't be happening if what I've heard is true, mind you you couldn't make it up. According to our chairman, this Delargy fella approached one of our "stars" asking him to move to Portglenone and he would pay him expenses! Disgraceful you might think, but it gets funnier.

Apparently Delargy didn't even have the job confirmed when this happened, and Portglenones committee found out what he had been doing they promptly ruled him out of the running (to their credit). This came from a call from the Portglenone secretary to our chairman to let him know they knew nothing about Delargys tapping up so I'd say its true enough.


hello,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
hello to you too johnjoe have u something to say!!

i thought the only stars there were in the portglenyin area were the ones in the sky over the winter!haha
so is delargy not manager then. heard thru the grapevine that woody had asked p mcneill to train the hurlers !

slim is jc takin yunes next year again, wud hope so from ur point o view, gud man for the job!
what bout the 2 tirnaog men join m'glass any truth in it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 01, 2006, 02:09:13 PM
Boyd is for Moneyglass, who else?

I'd imagine Sausalisto Bay is from Whitehill  ;)

and the star player in Question is Michael Magill  ;)

I mean, come on-Creggan players wont be leaving, especially their stars now that Morans there. And Moneyglass, well, they have Brady and thats it but he'd have gone before now if he was going to go at all.

Tir na nog man then Sausalisto?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 02:30:22 PM
i heard boyd and phelim mccloskey are for mg
so magill is the star, so thats an amalgimation of poprtglenyin,greenlough,bellaghy reserves and now randytown.
what wud magill do for hurling then ! spose he cud play for the geraldines!haha

hi slim c yous r playin 4 matches this w/end
under16,minor,u21 an mccormick cup
so goin for dec, spose u fancy ur chances in all 4
r u playin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on December 01, 2006, 02:37:07 PM
culchy,
what Greenlough players play for portgleonone? i cant think of any
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 01, 2006, 02:52:02 PM
Gort na Mona wont be easy beat in the U21's, a great minor side from 2 years ago coming through. Stinsons minors already beat our boys not so long ago, hard to fancy us in that one either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 03:00:42 PM
Hello to you too Culchie. just trying to get the swing of this...new to the board and all that!

Magill wouild be a good catch for portglenone,his club are going nowhere fast! Wasnt it his mother, Mairead Mc atamney that put portglenone on the map? Would that not be a basis for a move to a club with better aspirations? Personally dont agree with the expenses thinng, tho Id imagine throughout the country there are expenses paid for travelling longer distances, etc.

What about Boyd or Mc Cluskey. Will they be an addition to mg. Heard Boyds name mentioned in despatches, but what kind of player is mc cluskey? And why all the talk about Randalstown players on the move. Whats the crack with that?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 03:08:19 PM
You should change your name to Columbo Slim. I was talking to the man in question at lunchtime and he says this delargy clown was asking McVeigh from Ballymena and some Kilrea boy to go to Portglenone as well.  I'd say he'll have trouble getting a managers job when clubs hear how he operates.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 03:33:03 PM
ok 'thatthefootball' i was slightly exagerating!

mcloskey is a halfback not 4 bad
probably better than what they have at the min, his older brother plays for them.

so does delargy think roman abramovich is fuelin the ship or what
sean doc wud have tay sell a hell o alot o pretties b4 they can afford you then slim!! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 01, 2006, 03:37:16 PM
Thatsthe football....greenlough dont have any players...period
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 04:14:33 PM
Sausilito boy, if you believe everything that Magill tells you, you will up as big an eejit as he is!

And seeing youre from the over-achieving hotbed of Tir Na Nog, whats the crack with all these players leavin. Rats deserting a sinking ship comes to mind. Do you play yourself?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 04:29:31 PM
very funny max !!haha

sausy it wasnt one of those 3hour liquid lunch flexi half day things that all good civil servants get on a friday
that u were talkin 2 'the star' durin. spose the w/end up there starts on a weds nite in the bot!!

talkin of clowns, an theres enuf o them round portglenyin, delargy obviously doesnt have any faith in the squad
that portglenyin already have.
mcveigh wud hardly leave the mena, he half mccann is he not, as for any kilrea man joinin them i'd very much doubt it.
kilrea have a very gud up an comin team. that wud be like slim leavin toome 4 tirnaog./
Title: Portglenyins
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 05:22:05 PM
Delargy might have overstepped the mark looking for Magill, but he would still be a good appointment for portglenone. Sure Culchie, didnt he do a decent job at Kilrea, and could hold his head up after a year at the loup. After all the big hullobo and fuss( and ok, he shouldnt have been poaching, but theres not a word about Boyd and Mc Cluskey leaving the same club) maybe he will tell them to shove the job! Im sure it wont change his life!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 06:10:17 PM
ye he did do a very gud job way loup they were beat by an excellent ballinderry team
dont think kilrea were that impressed by him though, thats not to say h cudnt do a job for ports

anyone herd any other rumours bout managers/players
heard glenravel an rasharkin are lookin for mcgettigan to take them !
Title: managers
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 10:11:37 AM
Culchie, nothing for or against Delargy, but his Kilrea record was particulary impressive. Something like 19th to 5th in three seasons! Three years at any club is a long time, and you arnt going to be everyones friend at the end of it, so it would depend on who you were talking too. How they do last year without him? If he cant resolve his differences with Portglenone, then I cant see him struggling to find a decent club. There isnt exactly a large queue out there of people qualified to do these jobs, or willing to take all sorts of abuse from all sorts of people! Portglenones loss could be someone elses gain!
Hugh Mc gettigan is a great lad, good coach, organiser and motivator, but he would need to be very keen, or the money would need to be very good to take Glenravel or Rasharkin. JC back in at Cargin. Mc Toal hard at it already at St Pauls. Moran at Creggan.Any word out there at St Galls or Lamd Derg?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 10:27:05 AM
JC back in is he?! You know more than I do JohnJoe. It hasn't been confirmed but I expect it to happen all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 12:22:26 PM
Slim, was talking to a top Cargin man last nite and as you say, JC is nailed on for another year - unless he dosent want it, and that dosent sound like john charles, does it!

On another subject, sounds like CJ had some game yesterday. Have to say he is a real talent. Milltown,how good was he yesterday, and one more question. Would you have won without him?

Finally, see the milky bar kid is back in town. Is this a step forward or backwards, or does no-one really give a xxxx!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 12:30:59 PM
did anything come outta the county convention in toome yesterday !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2006, 12:42:16 PM
Was not at match yesterday, Christmas tree going up and all that, but was in club that night lads said that the weather played a big part in the game, the Naomh Gall lads dealt with it better. CJ apparently scored his best goal every. I'd say that this team that's playing in the St Paul's tournament is not the best that we have had over recent years but they could do better than the teams of the past. CJ is a big part of the team but they are not a one man team. He only plays on the full forward line, the ball needs to put up there. Burkey, Harbinson, Gribben and a few others make this team solid.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 04, 2006, 01:34:13 PM
Delargy was seen as a clown in the Loup, explaining why he is not there this year. Ye would think that if he was decent and after getting to a county final his services would have been retained.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 01:57:55 PM
Max, sure every Antrim person is seen as ac clown in Derry football. Thats just typical of your arrogant Derry attitude. the same one that saw your own club STUFFED by St galls last year. Didnt Delargy take an Antrim u-21 team down to the Loup earlier last year and bossed Derry about like rag dolls. Incidentally was talking to Paul Mc Flynn recently and he said that Delargy wasnt popular at times at the Loup because he tried to change their style of play, but overall he was "quite good" and finished strongly. No matter what, after a year there he would surely be a better all round manager for the experience.
100 posts in a few weeks, Max. You must be one really sad f**k. Now do us all a favour and f**k off back to the Derry board, or we will go on there and talk about all the crap Derry coaches working in Antrim. By the way, whats your own managerial CV like?

Good to see St Galls fly the flag for Antrim yesterday. Think we should all get behind them for the St Pauls tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 04, 2006, 02:03:52 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 01:57:55 PM
your own club STUFFED by St galls last year.

Two points in an Ulster final is hardly a stuffing. St Galls are a good team.It was a close fought game with our keeper handing the galls a goal that made the difference. Enlighten me as to the successful club you reside in.  I never said anything in my last post about Antrim...R u delargy in deguise...very tou
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 02:16:40 PM
I agree, an unwritten rule of the board should be you cant slag off someones club and not reveal what club you're from yourself.

So, JohnJoe, either shite or get off the pot!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 02:49:47 PM
was just wonderin, what does anyone think the county team wud be next year if u had 2 pick it from the trainin panel?

heres my startin fifteen!

1. s mcgreevy , 2.s mcveigh , 3.a mclean , 4.j loughrey , 5. t scullion , 6.p doherty , 7.s devlin , 8.j quinn , 9. m mccann , 10. c close , 11.k brady , 12. j crozier , 13. p cunningham , 14. m dougan , 15. m rea.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 02:54:01 PM
not a bad team, havent seen much of this guy rea though i hear he's good.

Dont be surprised if Crozier doesnt attend the panel at all. He's still playing the club season and has had a hectic year, might need a break.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 03:14:05 PM
Slim, Crozier was on fire earlier in the year, but he has def been quiet in recent games. Was on the missing list against Clontibret and the Lamhs. Bit of class, but def needs a few months rest.

Close a RFF not a no 12, play Cunningham as FF. Dougan there or thereabouts if he puts the work in, and Magill a cert if he really wants it. No Niblock either, thats strange, he is an unreal ball winner, but I suppose he didnt go to the trials! Paul Doc better at Full back, and dont be surprised if Tony Convery is back after Christmas fer CHB. Was Sean Kelly on that team?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 03:29:45 PM
sorry johnjoe why are u questionin the selection- my startin fifteen from the trainin panel as in the one that jody gormley pook from those who attended trainin eg. 8 from creggan and 3 from stgalls. as for magill he 2 busy gettin his agent 2 get him a bigger signin on fee from portglenyin, think a years supply of buckfast shud clinch the deal!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2006, 03:44:36 PM
Aidso Gallagher is on the team now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 04:10:27 PM
Culchie, with respect, Magill is training with panel presently, as far as i know anyway. But he will be missing on the tough training nights as his previous form suggests. Milltown posted Aidso is back too, so dont be surprised if there are a few more additions, like Convery, Niblock etc. Also, Slim, any truth Gerard O Boyle could be on the way back for youse next year? Got that one on good authority too!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 04:12:47 PM
O'Boyle was on a year out of football, so I'm assuming he will be back.

Tell me johnjoe, what club are you from? why are you embarrassed to tell us?

Culchy's a Rasharkin man, Milltown Row's a galls man, who is your club?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 04:31:20 PM
Slim, promise I will come clean in the near future. Just enjoying a bit of anonyminity. You would love it if people didnt know about your kickouts, and I have known your identity for a long time. You can be a bit controversial, but as long as you dont cross my line you will be ok!
In fact your posts can be good crack, but please dont get into bed with that useless derry arsehole from bellaghy who is so far stuck up Cassidys hole its untrue. Must be a relation for sure! Probably never kicked a ball in his life, but a fuckin all round expert in everything. Typical Derry mouthpiece!

Hope the Saffrons stuff them in June in Casement.

Culchie, Paul Doc not better in full back? Wot you think?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 04:31:34 PM
slim what makes u think milltown row is a gall's man?
or when did i say i was from rasharkin ?

jj have others joined the trainin panel since it was announced.
i never heard. if magill is trainin he shud make the team whether hes joins ports or not
just hope jody sticks to his guns

i agree that crozier needs a break, after all he still only a bit o a wane.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 04, 2006, 04:43:55 PM
Anybody aware of who is in and who is out of the county hurling 45? I haven't seen a list anywhere?
Title: Hurling Panel
Post by: reiteoir on December 04, 2006, 04:52:52 PM
Haven't seen the list any where myself but I'd put a bet on that young Jim McKernan will be booted out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on December 04, 2006, 05:02:23 PM
Johnjoe for you to say Magill misses all hard training as far as his form goes.  He was part of eleven fellows thats trained with me for the county last year between oct and dec when all the rest never bothered showing up until after,  and i was one of the fellows dropped.  So dont go by your silly form look at the bigger picture of the so called county stars that dont need to train eg tony scullion and the likes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 05:54:05 PM
Amninc, Im sorry if you were dropped. Sometimes football can be a real bitch. Tell me this, if you gave 100 of the best footballers in the county a pen and paper and asked them to name their BEST squad, would you be on most peoples top 25 or 30.

I cant answer that for you. Was your form good during the summer. Are you in with Jody now?

With regard to Magill, I think he is pure class, just a really lazy so and so. Hopefully if he is in with Jody, someone is making a strict note of who does and who dosent attend and FINISH all of the really hard sessions. I mean, how many sore throats can you get in a season. If there is a hiding place, Magill will find it, and he isnt alone! Thats my point, while at the same time I accept he is class.

I`ve no agenda here, just love to see the man fulfil his potential - but confident he wont even get close to it cause to it because his head is well up his arse at the minute! Love to be proved wrong on this tho.
Title: who got the letters? county hurling
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2006, 07:59:57 PM
from Naomh Gall, Burkey, CJ and Karl Stewart. Karls really keen to do will this year. not sure if the other two will bother. CJ is a class act but he is a hard to work out. he may have too much on this year to committ to hurling for the county at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 04, 2006, 08:19:12 PM
Milltown Row, Burkey's not good enough for senior hurling, was fairly lucky to make the minor panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 05, 2006, 08:17:29 AM
that maybe Galls man but, i heard he got a letter. he has not even played a full senior game for Naomh Gall!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 08:49:00 AM
'' and I have known your identity for a long time. You can be a bit controversial, but as long as you dont cross my line you will be ok!''

how about go f**k yourself johnjoe?  :D

Cross your line my arse!

Culchy, yer a Rasharkin man. and I know Milltown Row is a Galls man (hence the name!!), have you ever been to their pitch?!



I'll be talking no more with johnjoe until he reveals his club. Its all very well coming on here slabbering about Magill and the likes anonymously! grow a set of balls. I bet you wish you had a couple of Magills at your club regardless of where his head is.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 10:37:55 AM
ok slim i was only geggin, i have only actually been 2 milltown row once b4, an we mite not be there for a while again. i know how u know where im fray, it must have been that u r used 2 the lingo!

i c there r 3 matches on ur pitch this w/end again slim will b in some shape after that. we're rat-swiping on it on sat goin by the paper, hope the pitch doesnt spoil our fast flowing game.

big magills not the worst, bit o a druth but sure thats the student life for u. he cud do a job in fullforward, the black scallion deserves credit where its due, he has played at croke for the hurlers an theres no hiding places there. he must be fed on duck eggs, blue moulded sodas an guinness.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on December 05, 2006, 10:40:08 AM
Johnjoe i guessing you are a portglenone man-bit of a rash staement , what are ur reasons.  Currently on the panel at min.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 10:45:19 AM
what are the 3 games culchy? it seems the county just throw everything the direction of our place these days cos nobody else wants it. Our pitch needs you hoors tramping through it badly!

the new pitch is in great nick, the bottom one is very heavy though.

Our U16's are in the SW Championship Final on Saturday, thats the only game i know of on it but i assume you lot have a hurling game-abbey cup no doubt?! what else is on it?

you might be lucky to get the club opened, our dinner dance is on Friday night!!  :D

were you playing in the McCormick Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 11:07:12 AM
aye the abbey cup agin tir na og.

think the other match is minor final of some sort, shield or somethin.
sean stinkins and moneyglass me tinks.

aye was playin on sunday gettin the run around fray some wee minor, some craic.
think he had even been playin b4 our match an he was still runnin everywhere.
thought we shud have won, had more than enuf chances in first half.
then the owl legs went in the second half an the ref didnt help either.
but cant blame him, hes actually one of the better ones.

spose yous hay a bit o celebratin 2 do on fri nite then.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 11:16:49 AM
aye, think we had 4 minors playing- 2 of which are under 16 and another minor came on as sub. you should have won it, fitness levels beat you in the end and it showed that our lads were playing more football the past few weeks. We had the bare 15 and then a couple turned up late, they helped when they were brought on at half time.

you must have been corner back or wing half back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 11:26:38 AM
AYE TWO O THE BOYS THAT CAME ON SCORED THE GOALS THAT FINISHED US OFF
WHO WAS THE BIG FELLA WHO CAME ON AT MIDFIELD NOT A BAD PLAYER, SCORED A GOOD GOAL.
WILE LUMP OF A CUB,AGAIN MUST B FED ON DUCK EGGS. AYE YOUS JUST RAN THRU US IN THE SECOND HALF.

TELL ME SLIM DO U KNOW UR COLLEAGUES USERNAME OR IS HIS ID UNKNOWN.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 11:35:34 AM
Thats big Seamy McCloskey-minor last year, big brute of a fella aye. He's a good prospect for the middle of the park and was on the senior panel this year.

I might take a wander to the field on Saturday to watch the infamous rat killers in action!! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 11:46:10 AM
think johnjoe mite b huffin now  ???
its all gone quiet over there.
id say jj is fray the outskirts o belshaft.
maybe up the hill.
give us a clue okocha.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
Culchy, your Abbey Cup game may find a new venue- ye wont be playing it in Toome. Its been confirmed to me that our pitch will not be available for that game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: MichaelMagill on December 05, 2006, 12:43:19 PM
Just reading through your carbage JohnJoe,  You seem to have some personal issue you need to sort out with me.  Im sorry Delargy embarressed you lot - its just not the way football is done in my eyes. You talk about these hiding places - least i get to the stage were i can hide as you say.  Anyway this is me so who are you and stop hiding behind your little computer screen.Dont expect you too as one of you qualities is prob a lack of balls-prove me wrong. slan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 12:52:15 PM
go on the boy ye!!

i dont think it is Magill though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: MichaelMagill on December 05, 2006, 01:02:52 PM
I guarentee it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 01:05:23 PM
i wudnt argue way him.
hes alot bigger than me.
hows the form the blackscallion bot da mora nite then!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2006, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 05:54:05 PM
Amninc, Im sorry if you were dropped. Sometimes football can be a real bitch. Tell me this, if you gave 100 of the best footballers in the county a pen and paper and asked them to name their BEST squad, would you be on most peoples top 25 or 30.

I cant answer that for you. Was your form good during the summer. Are you in with Jody now?

With regard to Magill, I think he is pure class, just a really lazy so and so. Hopefully if he is in with Jody, someone is making a strict note of who does and who dosent attend and FINISH all of the really hard sessions. I mean, how many sore throats can you get in a season. If there is a hiding place, Magill will find it, and he isnt alone! Thats my point, while at the same time I accept he is class.

I`ve no agenda here, just love to see the man fulfil his potential - but confident he wont even get close to it cause to it because his head is well up his arse at the minute! Love to be proved wrong on this tho.

Mick, if those sore throats are a bother, get the tonsils out, It should work trust me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on December 05, 2006, 02:22:14 PM
you were on the panel after christmas then john joe?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Fr Ted on December 05, 2006, 02:29:47 PM
If it really is M Magill, then fair fcuks to you, there is too much personal insults and slabbering going on about individuals on the GAA board, it should be used for as the name would suggest a 'discussion board' for airing an opinion on a topic, not to launch cowadly personal atacks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 02:44:12 PM
i agree with Ted, god bless ye father.

insults dont bother me if i know the person is legit. yer man johnjoe is an imbecile who refuses to name his club and has some bone to pick with Magill!

as i said before, grow a set of stones johnjoe and stop hiding-you logged on here 40 mins ago, saw that Magill (or someone saying he was magill) was on and asking questions and you ran out again like a wee girl!

shite or get off the pot...
Title: 2007 Ulster Hurling league
Post by: MadMick007 on December 05, 2006, 02:49:27 PM
I see the Ulster Hurling league entry forms are out. Will all Antrim Senior Clubs join this year? :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 05, 2006, 03:00:20 PM
well we will have to, as it's the only way to get games ;D

any idea of the dates that they are proposing?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 03:12:17 PM
re:madmick

i dont know about any of the senior teams mick but i know our team benefitted greatly from the ulster league this year.
we got 2 the semi of div3 which was of great experience for us.
we then went on to the junior championship final and have since won div 3 league.
without the ulster league we wud not have been as successful, its games that was needed.

the ulster council r tryin their best 2 improve the standard of hurlin in ulster, this is what they though wud b the best method.
some other teams dont agree namely dunloy, who didnt participate this year an suffered badly,cause come the championship against the dall they were rusty.
sure u cudnt beat it, its better than playin friendlies, competitive games r what u want!

also no more badmouthin iindividuals lads, these r the ones we will cheerin on come next june against the boys fray oar the bann!! football fans can be so fickle at times.
its a short dinstance between a pat on the back an a kick up the arse!!
Title: U19 Hurling?
Post by: aontroim on December 06, 2006, 11:43:22 AM
Had heard rumour that some people would like to scrap Minor and U21 grades for an U19 competition - looks like some are pre-empting this!

(From antrim website - antrim.gaa.ie)

The Antrim u19 Hurling panel (selected by Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton) to play Waterford on Saturday 9th December is as follows;

Neal McAuley
Aaron Graffin
Paddy McGill
Neil McManus
Shane McNaughton
Paddy Doherty
Paul Shields
Randal McDonnell
Eddie McCloskey
Colm Duffin
Eoghan O'Neill
Barry McFall
Sean Burke
Conor McGourty
Shay Casey
Oran McFadden
Brendan McDermott
Cormac Donnelly
Simon McCrory
Chrissy O'Connell
Connor McCann
Mickey Dallat
Conor Rocks
Conal Maskey
Anton McCaffery

The venue will be confirmed later in the week. Any player not able to attend on Saturday, please inform Kieran on 07990 537166
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 10:03:14 AM
anyone know where any fixtures are this weekend?

i heard cargin gorts u21 match is at corrigan
an galls johnnies match is at gortnamona

anyone hear where reserve competition between sharkin an lamhs is at?
Title: Naomh Gall Fundraiser
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2006, 10:13:08 AM
Texas Hold'em Night at Naomh Galls club rooms, Sunday 10th of December (this Sunday) registration at 7.15 £10 entry, £5 buy ins. One buy in after the break,  big prize money!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 10:20:57 AM
culchy, you'd need to buck up yer ideas before playing the Johnnies in that reserve C'ship. they're a decent side, physical too. though its most of their under 21 team so you may hope they make the final of the u21's and take their eye off it. Locky McCurdy still playing at the ripe old age of 43...at least!!

you have to beat Lamh Dhearg first though...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 10:31:37 AM
i know the story bout the chicken an egg an which came first slim!
was wonderin where lamhs match wud be not 2 many clubs want a crowd of hoors
trampin their pitch into shite at this time o the year

if johnnies get to u21 final i'd doubt if reserve competition will be finished this year.
heard one o ur boys sayin on sunday that last years mccormick cup was never played
between ursels an someone canny mind who the other team was.

gud luck for ur u21 semi agin gorts, im sure they'll be hard 2 beat

i see okocha hasnt been on here since big magill scared the brown stuff outta him.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 10:35:49 AM
the mccormick cup is a farcical competition and so is the o'cahan cup. both have and will continue to be treated as such by ourselves in the future. we couldnt care less about them and why should we? the SW board dont! pure shite, but fixtures have to be fulfilled.

your game with Lamhs will likely be tossed for- no other pitch will want it, we certainly dont as we seem to be gettin every game imaginable.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 07, 2006, 10:43:49 AM
Just got a quick chance to log on an see wots been goin on. Havent gone away you know! ( I actually have to work now and then,believe it or not) A couple of quick points tho.

firstly I apologise to magill if I caused offence. It really is far too easy to come on here and run someone down. You are a class player(dual) but a lot of people think there is a full 25% left in your tank. Do you want to be known as agood player, or the best the county has had for many years? all I am doing is letting you know that a lot of your fellow players really want to see the real Michael Magill this year, the one who could play for Kerry, if you were from there!

So shake off the Bot head and really get stuck into playing to your full potential, and youll be all over this board for all the right reasons! Hopefully this wee kick up the arse will spur you on to greater things. We are all behind you.

Ok big man!

Slim, shite or get off the pot,your hole. read the rules of the board. Why are you obsessed with clubs and identitys. My opinion will be either right or wrong wherever Im from. But at least I could kick the ball more than 25 yards, so why dont you runalong now and practice those kickouts, and when you get them up to 30 yards, I might give you a few clues. You see, Im doing this for your good too!

Finally,(to broaden the discussion) looks like a really good u-19 squad there, with Paul Shiels top man, but shitloads of quality throughout. Good luck to this exciting squad, and to Woody and Sambo as they embark on a new era. Go to it lads!






Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 10:51:32 AM
damage is done dickhead, dont try crawling up Magills arse- he doesnt work like that!!

as for my 25 yards kickouts  :D ;D

classic stuff, original too!!  :-\

I've represented my club in the USFC, have you? Nah, didnt think it  :D

maybe your a wee bit bitter, dont know where i'm getting that from-just a hunch!!..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 07, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
Slim, my response to Magill was genuine. Most readers of this site will know where I`m coming from. Sometimes the truth hurts, and hopefully Magills real response will be on the playing field. What part of this are you having difficulty with. Lets put it this way, imagine Magill and Mc Gourty af full pelt in the county forward line

If anyone is trying to get personal, its you Slim, so wind your neck in and chill out a bit!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 12:12:51 PM
as if Magill has anything to prove to the likes of you  :D

Didnt he represent Antrim in Croker, how many around here can say that? its all very well you coming here and launching personal attacks every time you post while hiding behind yer screen name, your a big man!!

So, in your 14 posts thus far you've ridiculed Magill, McGourty and my own footballing ability/attitude etc.- good going. ::)
Title: Fixtures
Post by: aontroim on December 07, 2006, 02:33:40 PM
Antrim Championship Fixtures - 9th December 2006

U21 FC
1.30 p.m. @ Gort na Mona - St. John's v St. Gall's
1.30 p.m. @ Glenavy - Gort na Mona v Erin's Own, Cargin

Reserve Football Competition
2.00 p.m. @ Cushendun - Lamh Dhearg v St. Mary's, Rasharkin


EXTRA TIME MUST BE PLAYED IF NECESSARY IN ALL GAMES


Is this a first for FOOTBALL to be played at Cushendun?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 03:47:42 PM
some fuckin craic boys
how did they think that one up
cushendun where men r men an sheep are feared

i'd say it'll be a game of 2 halves definitley
gale force winds down there
they'll have 2 clear all the seaweed off the pitch b4hand

hi slim dont raise 2 okocha's bait
we all know u were part of the all conquerin cargin team that were the best team
in antrim this year, even with ur 25 yard kickouts

if ur man wud only drop his guard an let us know what club he is from
what is there 2 b feared of apart from magill landin 2 ur club 2 get his own back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 03:54:02 PM
i cant say I've ever had the honour of a game in Cushendun. How the Co Board chose that pitch to play Lamh Dhearg and Rasharkin I'll never know!!

just shows how highly they regard the Reserve C'ship....not highly  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 04:05:41 PM
aye c'dun some spot if ur a goat, on the edge of a cliff
they dont use a lawnmower, they just let 2 a local farmer

slim its not even called reserve championship

it gets called a reserve fuckin competition
how insultin is that

competition - thats somethin on the tv when the answers that obvious
u dont even bother enterin it.

thats somethin u had when u were a wane at school to
c who cud pee the highest up the wall, i always laughed when i heard of one fella
who thought he was great he cud hit the roof, he was great all rite until he realise what goes
up must come down, fuckin pisshead!!

anyhow doesnt matter what its called its there to be won
maybe next year sometime!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
Locky McCurdy still plays? Find yourselves some body armour lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 04:25:15 PM
Locky's alright, honest player. He'll hit you if ye deserve it! wouldnt be long in having a pint with you after the game, regardless of the outcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 04:32:02 PM
body armour

u mean like those white things yous st galls pansies
wore last year

or do u mean the medievil type
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2006, 04:34:28 PM
Yes, because insulation shirts are known for their heavy padding. Eejit.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 06:54:24 PM
och c'mon boys can ye not take a wee joke
wheres ur sense of humours, sake!

i wud well believe that the doc cuts the grass in c'dun
hes a good fella, give him a chance its only his first year in charge
rome wasnt built in a day,
if we can improve a bit every year, then we will eventually get there
look at the bigger picture dont be so narrow minded!

also gallsman,heres me, bein fray the sticks we're used to the cold weather
we dont need any fibre glass-wiry wool jumpers to keep us warm.
i hear o'neills r for bringin out a special edition of sportsmans tights!
they'll be made from cotton wool, aye catch ursel on!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: becks on December 08, 2006, 11:35:54 AM
id like to know how stinsons and moneyglass are going to play twice on sun like the fixtures suggest. 12.30 in toome in the minor league final and then at 2.00 in aldergrove in the laverty cup semi final!  Dont think its gona happen.
Title: Antrim hurlers train in Ballymena
Post by: dec on December 11, 2006, 09:35:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6170631.stm

Antrim hurlers train in Ballymena
Ballymena Rugby Club opened its training facilities to the Antrim hurlers on Sunday in an historic move.

Prior to Sunday, hurling had never been played on any of the Eaton Park pitches in the predominantly Protestant town.

Antrim hurling joint-manager Terence McNaughton described the training venue as "perfect for us" given that so many of the squad hail from north Antrim.

Ballymena chairman Rab Brady spoke of his club's desire to "develop a good working relationship with the hurlers".

"Hopefully they can use the fabulous facilities that we have here," he said.

"We are not concerned with religion here or any aspect of that but just glad to see other sports organisations use the facilities."

The club's premises have hosted soccer and cricket, as well as rugby down through the years.

Invariably, Antrim hurlers have trained in West Belfast down through the years and the county board is now hoping that Jody Gormley's Saffron football squad will also be able to avail of Ballymena's facilities during the course of this winter.

Antrim hurling bosses McNaughton and Dominic McKinley had no hesitation in heading for Ballymena.

"When you train at 10 o'clock or a Sunday morning, you don't want to be dragging guys from the far ends of north Antrim to Belfast," said McNaughton.

Antrim GAA chairman John McSparran said that the hurlers were "delighted" by the decision to train in Ballymena.

"I noticed one of the things they said this morning was:'My God...dressing-rooms with heat in them'. That was a novelty for them," added the Antrim official.

"I haven't heard one dissenting voice. And if you know the position in Antrim where we are lacking facilities, anybody who would be critical of this, is way wide of the mark."
Title: fair play to ballymena
Post by: reiteoir on December 12, 2006, 10:15:16 AM
Fair play to BRFC, thats thr=e way things should be. Hopefully, one or two of their lads will take up Gaelic games.

The only thing that worries me is that as its Ballymena men providing these facilities, are much are they looking? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on December 12, 2006, 10:41:31 AM
It is a fantastic gesture by Ballymena and should be applauded.

I hope they don't find themselves victims of vandalism or some other form of retribution from local arseholes who will will judge their actions as licking up to the fenians.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: an caman on December 12, 2006, 12:30:07 PM
taken form antrim website

U19 Hurling  11 December 2006 
The U 19 hurlers played their match on Saturday at Larne as planned .Although it was very cold and there had been some rain the pitch was in good condition, both teams started off intent on winning this game. With a strong breeze which favoured the Waterford team in the first half , the Antrim defence had to work hard to keep the scores down, Chris O'Connell was in nets with Neal Mc Auley at full back, other defenders were Randall McDonnell, Barry Mc Fall

The Antrim midfield were closing down their opponents quickly to help out their defence and Simon Mc Crory was supplying the Antrim forward line with plenty of chances . Paddy Doherty got the first goal for Antrim with Paul Shields and Cormac Donnelly getting points on the board also, before Paul Shields got the second goal for Antrim The score at half time was Antrim 2.3 v 2.7 Waterford,

With the wind at their backs Antrim quickly set about taking their points and drawing level and then to add a further 10 points to leave the score at the end

Antrim 2.17 v Waterford 2.9 .Other scorers on the day were Eddie Mc Closkey and Colm Duffin

All members of the panel took part in the match.Thanks to Latharna og for their reception on the day and to Mrs Anne Mc Caughan for the tea for every one . Thanks also to Tommy Mc Intyre for refereeing

After the match both teams attended a reception hosted by the Mayor Larne , Mr Danny 'O, Connor in the council offices , The Mayor welcomed everyone and made a presentation to both teams . County sec, Jim Murray thanked the players, host club Latharna Og and the Mayor

An encouraging result. like the idea of an under 19 team. will allow alot of the fellas from the last two years minor teams to continue playing together. Also a good result for the jordanstown hurlers in the div 2 hurling league final. they would have alot of antrim lads playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 12, 2006, 09:55:29 PM
WELL DONE TO THE u-19S. iT IS OBVIOUSLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY HOW STRONG WATERFORD WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF dECEMBER BUT ENCOURAGING NONE THE LESS. ON A DIFFERENT POINT I HAVE NEVR BEEN TO LARNES NEW PITCH, WHATS THE SET UP LIKE THERE, JUST CURIOUS.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on December 13, 2006, 08:00:32 AM
Good work by Woody & Sambo sorting out Ballymena. Maybe signs of a more professional approach to training the county team.
The Larne pitch is in the middle of nowhere over-looking the town. It's a good, full size, pitch, wiith catching nets etc. The changing rooms are a port-a-cabin but they have showers that work and have hot water. Well done to all concerned in developing a fine facility in such a hostile environment.
On another ponit, I've heard that Bredagh hurlers want to join the Antrim league next year. Will they be accepted? I don't see any problem, certainly not with travel. The more teams the better IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 13, 2006, 10:52:08 AM
has anyone heard when the reserve competition final is or where it is?
is it this side o christmas.

seen a couple o ropey fotas in the local press around b'mena of cargins
anual dinner.
young kevin o'boyle got their senior player of the year.
didnt see much of him this year but he must be a real talent if hes gettin awards like that!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 10:56:51 AM
Kevin thoroughly deserved that award, a class act all year and consistent throughout.

u need to watch yer back culchy, i was talking to a lad on Saturday evening who was enquiring who you and jj were.

ropey pics me hole, there'll be some papers sold this week- all scrubbed up and lookin well!!  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 13, 2006, 11:17:21 AM
hi slim dont tar me way the same brush as that jj eejit!
i know who ur on about.
anything i said bout him was tongue firmly in cheek.
im sure the big man was wile worried bout what somebody like me was sayin anyhow.
id say jj is a current county panellist there a couple of them floatin about here.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 11:24:02 AM
bein a county panellist means f**k all really if yer slabberin about other men on the panel or men that should be! but no, he was only askin about who you were.

that reserve final isnt on this weekend, I'd say it will be played next Saturday, possibly at our place.

clubs dont want anyone on their pitch at this time of year but as theres 2 games on ours on Sunday I'd imagine we'll probably get that reserve final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 13, 2006, 11:40:15 AM
its black eye friday next week, it'll be some craic on sat if its on!
wud it be on ur new pitch up the back.

what r the johnnies like slim!
our team will be the same that played yous in mccormick cup
minus 1 player a half back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 11:46:59 AM
i only watched the Johnnies once and that was against us in the semi-final. The're a good team with a lot of young players and a couple of old heads too- Locky McCurdy, Donal Kennedy and their keeper-all with SFC medals under their belt.

they have that same old Johnnies style about them though-if they are getting it tight, then start a fight. that happened us and with a load of cubs on our team we didnt need it, got a man sent off and they won by 2 i think.

you'll get it tight, very tight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on December 13, 2006, 02:19:01 PM
Kevin O Boyle is a gud young player but Slim - he was by no means your best player. I thought decent clubs didnt hand out them awards!! ;D

Are you telling me that if he had of got injured you wouldnt have won the championship
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 02:29:57 PM
where did i say that Cromagh?

he's a great player and would get on any club team in Ulster-FACT!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 14, 2006, 02:57:14 PM
whats the predictions for the u21 final?

probably be tight with the conditions bein a factor.

not long til mckenna cup lads, how will antrim cope without their students,
are there many?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Blacksheep on December 14, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
What has this to do with Armagh Harps??   ::) ADMIN!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 14, 2006, 07:46:21 PM
I reckon Bredagh hurlers would be welcome in the Antrim leagues, sure havent the half of them played for Antrim clubs already, although many years ago in most cases!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on December 14, 2006, 08:43:16 PM
Slim

You are getting carried away with yourself! Yes hes a good player but a bit light to be included in every team

Ballinderry - McGuckian, McOscar, Crozier/Wilson - dont think so
bELLAGHY - mCgOLDRICK, O'Neill, Doherty/McShane

St Galls - McRory, Brady, McLean

Cross - Bellew, Kernan, Hughes


Are you telling me Slim that he would get on any of the above - well if he would why the hell has Jody Gormley not picked him for the county - oh thats right he wouldnt know anythinh.

So Slim dont get carried away - Hes a good wee player that had a decent year. A bit early to be making sweeping statements about him -time enough in 3/4 years before you could make a decent judgement - that is if you could actually make one ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 15, 2006, 08:36:00 AM
Ah Cromagh, you have shown yourself up on this site yet again.

If you knew anything about what you're talking about then you'd know that Kevin O'Boyle is on the Antrim panel,  :D ;D

what a stupid jabrone you are  :D

he played in the friendly last week for St Marys against Antrim and starred!!

stick to what you know Cromagh- not much  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on December 15, 2006, 02:06:50 PM
Stand corrected Slim >:(

But still stick with my point - he wudnt get on every team in Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 15, 2006, 05:15:56 PM
Cromagh, who is Mc Rory of St galls?

Kevin O Boyle is a class act, and will play county football for years. Best man to man marker around, support play  O Boyle is just another of the top class Antrim footballers that will match Derry at any age group. Remember there was nothing at all between our minor or u-21 sides last year,and our second team gave youse all you wanted at Maghera in the mc Kenna cup. I know that Antrim football does respect and fear some counties, but we have no fear whatsoever of playing a grossly overrated and arrogant county like Derry.

Bring on June, I cant wait to get a kick at youse!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2006, 05:41:55 PM
McRory is the St Galls midfielder - right?? Mark. Hatrdly a good comparison as he is a midfielder.

Kevin O'Boyle is a tidy wee corner back and there's not too many in Antrim. He'd be needing a few eggs in the morning before making a good county footballer but he's young yet.

Unfortunately it's no coincidence that a lot of the good young footballers in antrim were schooled in derry. O'Boyle, Crozier, Michael McCann and you could go back to further years for Rony Hamill, Kevin Brady. Some would argue Owen Doherty though I wouldn't meself...

I think some of them other Cargin seniors went there too.

It would leads you to ask if our underage coaching is good enough. The unfortunate answer is - probably not.

Edited - add madden to that list.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 16, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
any word off u21 final result
Title: U21 Final Result...
Post by: aontroim on December 16, 2006, 04:58:43 PM
Cargin 2-10 v 1-5 St. John's
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 17, 2006, 07:58:40 PM
From The BBC

Body of man found in club grounds 

The man's body was found in west Belfast
The body of a man has been discovered in Belfast.
The remains were found in the grounds of the Gortnamona Gaelic Athletic Association club on the Upper Springfield Road on Sunday morning.

Forensic scientists are working at the scene in the west of the city to establish the circumstances surrounding the death.

Police are invesigating the death. A post mortem examination is due to be carried out on Monday.

Any one know any more about this?


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 18, 2006, 10:34:43 AM
Congrats to Cargin for an overwhelming u-21 success on saturday. A truly fitting way for the best young player in the county to finish off his under-age career. Well done Michael and co.

From a St Johns perspective, where does this leave them? I know that O`Prey consistently over-rates the St Johns players. My feeling has always been that they have NO players anywhere near good enough at u-21level. Mc Glinchey got the vote last year on the basis of one good challenge game, the rest of the time he struggled. Hasson would always have been a better option, with his stamina, and engine etc. Meades inclusion was a joke(class stuff Gerry) and everyone knew where that came from. and he did well to last the ten minutes he got!

Could have forecast a hammering before the game. Their only player of true county standard is Brian Neeson, full stop, but no doubt O`Prey and his (St Johns) backroom staff will have other blue tinted ideas

Once again Andy fails to deliver the goods at managerial level, despite his side trying to resort to bully boy tactics near the end, and a referee that did his best to turn the game St Johns way.

Cargin, youse were a credit to your club, and well done.



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 18, 2006, 10:43:48 AM
jj theres no point comin on lickin arse now
u shudve known not to cross slims line.

all the same well done 2 cargin u21s

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on December 18, 2006, 11:17:39 AM
Heard Kevin O'Boyle got a pretty serious injury.  Dislocated shoulder with collar bone broken in 2 places???
Hopefully its not as bad as what I've heard and wish him a speedy recovery. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 18, 2006, 12:02:47 PM
Culchie, my post has f**k all to do with either you or Slim. Either you agree with the sentiments or you dont. Stop trying to make this personal, I have no argument with Slim or yourself, so keep it that way. Have you no worthwhile opinions to offer, or is it you who is licking arse, cause it certainly wont be me! If I say well done to Cargin, its because its merited, as far as I know Slim is not involved.

Away back to your Ulster/Scots dribble with you!

Really disappointed with the news on young Kevin. Truly a class act. Hope he bounces back, but that sounds like a nasty injury?

And just as a footnote, my previous post was not an anti St Johns bias, even if some readers take it that way. Just personally believe they are hugely over-rated,and while they arnt a bad team, they have a lot of decent players, but no outstanding ones at this (u-21)
or senior level. From a county perspective, I`d rather be saying they have half a dozen class acts, but they just arnt there. If anyone agrees or disagrees thats ok, its only my opinion!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 18, 2006, 01:24:15 PM
Brian Neeson is not of counsty standard. Having played against him a few times, and adm ittedly he's still young, he's shown no justification of the hype I hear from Johnnies. Completely one footed, and it's not even that great. Anyone who was at the St. Gall's - St. John's minor championship game earlier in the year would have seen him getting completely skint.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 18, 2006, 02:05:11 PM
john joe, john joe, john joe!

i was only winding you up. ur the one gettin personal-ulster scots.
just because my grammar isnt great, more like lazy.
i totally agree with your previous contribution.
cargin deserve all the praise they get, they are a well run and organised club.
they sometimes dont get the recognition they deserve for their football,
some people would rather concentrate on other aspects of their game.

anyway, hows the county training goin
u said in a previous post u cant wait 2 get a kick at them from derry!
do u think u will make the panel or startin team.
have u any inside info for us average joes!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on December 18, 2006, 03:45:57 PM
Congrats to Cargin u21s for a great win, rounds off a great year for their club, finally they have shown they can play ball without using the bully boy tactics they previously used!
Also wish a speedy recovery to kevin o boyle, class act who was one of the highlights of the year in antrim football!

Heard rumours that Mr K McGourty was up to his usual tricks yesterday against his fellow county men, started a row and got sent off, can anyone update us??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 19, 2006, 10:23:32 AM
Cheers Culchie, no hard feelings at all.

People on this site should realise that all we do here is sound off on our opinions. Its obvious that some of my earlier posts hit a few raw nerves, but I stand by them. I think Magill operates well inside the comfort zone, and Mc Gourty is a first class nuisance. Thats not to say that if they both got the finger out, Antrim would have a deadly and potent forward line. My comments are borne out of frustration that Antrim may never fully get the best out of the two of them. If my comments cause offence, they have a real opportunity to prove me wrong. On the playing field where it matters, not on a keyboard.

Saffronman, agree fully. Cargin have got their fair share of bad press in recent years. This year they have been a real credit, playing disciplined and good football. Their display against St galls was my highlight of the football year. Makes for an interesting 2007!

Culchie, there is a no talk ban about anything going on in the football camp, but early signs are positive. Thats all I can say.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 19, 2006, 02:18:33 PM
thats fair enuf jj.

we will just have 2 wait til the mckenna cup starts.
will u be playin for antrim or r u part of 1 o the uni squads.
do antrim lose many 2 the uni teams.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 19, 2006, 02:27:37 PM
Magill knows the identity of JohnJoe anyhow-as do i.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 19, 2006, 02:32:57 PM
go on then slim
spill the beans or at least give us a clue!

uv been rite an quiet the last lock o days slim
heard u had a fallen out way a not so goldie lookin chain
outside arbys
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 19, 2006, 02:36:42 PM
a bigger contingent of uni players than ever this year, culchie.

With some sensitivity re earlier comments, best I didnt disclose which camp I`m in. Maybe some time in the future I`ll drop a clue or two, but mums the word for now. Training fairly brutal at the moment. Morale ok. Its a bit tough for a few though....reckon one or two wont stick the pace!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 19, 2006, 02:42:19 PM
yer right there culchy, quite a falling out!!! hence the quiet couple of days-had a few complications.

i wont be 'outing' yer man- just letting him know that he is well known.

thats a mad shock for yer community at the minute culchy, disaster for all involved at the worst possible time, not that theres a good time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 19, 2006, 09:08:28 PM
Good luck to St Gall's on St Stephen's Day. Would love to see them run out against the Island in the final - CJ's swansong at minor level?

Any word how Mickey Rea is getting on with the Antrim panel?
Title: Re: Clooney Gaels, Antrim and Norn Iron junior hurling champions
Post by: johnneycool on December 20, 2006, 12:52:49 PM
I hear the Gaels were invited to Ballymena council buildings for a civic reception and the sitting DUP mayor welcomed them as Antrim and Northern Ireland junior hurling champions.

Shit stirring bollocks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 20, 2006, 12:57:27 PM
i never heard that but i did hear it was on last night and there wasnt the slap up feed that they were expecting!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 20, 2006, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on December 20, 2006, 12:57:27 PM
i never heard that but i did hear it was on last night and there wasnt the slap up feed that they were expecting!

Tea and biscuits was what my reliable source told me
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 21, 2006, 12:15:40 PM
Its all gone very quiet. All you civil servants off already?

Heres a stocking filler, might liven up the thread.

Top Ten Best Performance Awards for me in 2006.

1 St Galls display versus Nemo.
2 Antrim minor hurlers gallant display versus Galway
3 Cargin display versus St Galls
4 Under 21`s twelve point victory versus Fermanagh
5 Antrim Hurlers Christy Ring revenge versus Down
6 Antrim minor footballers victory against Armagh
7 Under 21`s narrow defeat to Tyrone in Omagh
8 La Salle Mc Larnon Cup campaign, esp All-Ireland semi final.
9 Lamh Deargs gutsy c`ship final versus Cargin
10 Cushendalls c`ship comeback versus Loughgiel


Best young footballer award     CJ Mc Gourty
Runner up                              J. Crozier and K O Boyle (joint)

Best young hurler Award          Paul Shiels
Runner up                              Neil Mc Manus

Best overall club.                     Gort Na Mona   ( For providing an outlet in an area with particular urban distractions, and under age
                                            teams in both codes who can hold their own at the highest level in the county)

Runner up                              St Brigids, both on and off the field. In 5 years, they could be the biggest and best club in Antrim.

Merit                                      St Galls, for putting Antrim football on the map, and for nearly (should have) winning the All Ireland.
Merit                                      Cargin, for winning new admirers for their fast and positive brand of disciplined football.
merit                                      St Johns, for underage emphasis, winning u-12 all county football and hurling.

Finally, county man of the year to John Mc Sparran, for the ability to take hard decisions, for his committment to delivering the Strategic Plan (excellent stuff) and to his support and instigation of new finance initiatives, and better training facilities.  Also a good effort( can be better next year, but good start) at a players awards dinner in Tullyglass. Very good first year, tho priority next year is to get fixtures sorted out.



Should start a bit of debate, comment, (slagging off) whatever!

Either way, seasonal wishes to ye all,  even you Slim, and lets make 07 a good un.

Slan.























                       
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 22, 2006, 08:51:34 AM
Quote from: johnjoe on December 21, 2006, 12:15:40 PM
Its all gone very quiet. All you civil servants off already?



Top Ten Best Performance Awards for me in 2006.

5 Antrim Hurlers Christy Ring revenge versus Down
                     


Are you sure it wasn't Down who exacted revenge in the Christy Ring round robin game after taking a pummelling in the Ulster championship??
I know Antrim went onto win it, but that was by beating Carlow not Down!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on December 22, 2006, 03:05:53 PM
Merry Christmas to all Saffron Gaels. Wishing you all A Peaceful and Prosperous New Year. Heres to a good National League Run then success against them Derry c***s in our back yard! Up the Saffrons
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 22, 2006, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: saffronman on December 22, 2006, 03:05:53 PM
Merry Christmas to all Saffron Gaels. Wishing you all A Peaceful and Prosperous New Year. Heres to a good National League Run then success against them Derry c***s in our back yard! Up the Saffrons


How can you put merry xmas and c$$ts in the same sentence....very uncharitable of you
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 22, 2006, 03:32:31 PM
Maybe youre right JC, no worries. At the end of the day Antrim hurlers got to the final, only to go for 30 minutes without a score, against CARLOW. And some people thought it was a good display! Hard to watch I thought, and a million miles removed from the pace of the senior game that followed. Hopefully better fare ahead next year.

Max, have to say that Saffronman was way over the top there, but only because of the supposed season of goodwill. Normal hostilities will resume in January. Until then, convey our best wishes to the gaels of Derry.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 24, 2006, 04:16:17 PM
johnjoe must be on the soup why was cargins thumping of casements not in top 10,
Title: SPOH
Post by: aontroim on January 01, 2007, 03:39:21 PM
Tragic news about the untimely death of former Antrim footballer Sean Paul O'Hagan in a car accident last night - deepest sympathy to his family and friends and all at Con Magees Glenravel.

Go ndeanaidh Dia trocaire ar a anam.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 01, 2007, 04:32:32 PM
Deeply shocked and saddened to hear the death of Shaun Paul, a great lad and great player, will be sorely missed by family and whole Antrim GAA community! R.I.P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ziggysego on January 01, 2007, 10:08:11 PM
Terrible news this morning about Sean Paul. My sympathies go out to his family, friends, community.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Abble on January 02, 2007, 09:00:39 AM
Spo, you'll be very sorely missed as a superb footballer and a great person at Northbrook, you won manys a game for us on your own...it was a joy to have known you, socialised with you and played alongside you.
Jordy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 02, 2007, 09:40:13 AM
Terrible news.  My sister in law was very friendly with Shaun paul and I met him on a few nights out.  I am also friendly with Kieran McKinley, who was seriously hurt in the crash and their is a very surreal feeling about the whole situation.


May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 02, 2007, 11:03:26 AM
Terrible news. knew sean paul fairly well, really decent lad, good footballer and a more than handy hurler when he wanted to be.

Deepest sympathy to his family, friends and all at Con Magees
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 02, 2007, 11:32:59 AM
Very surreal indeed.  I remember Sean Paul from his stint in Coleraine, he was leaving when I was starting.  When I heard others were in the car, I had a bad feekling it would be McKinley or O'Loan as they all mucked about together along with Niall Higgins.  Any word on McKinleys situation.  Who else was invloved?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 02, 2007, 01:26:03 PM
Kieran is serious but stable.  He has two broken legs, a broken arm, bashed ribs and bad cuts on his face.  Mrs BC and her sister were talking to him in the hospital yesterday and he was in serious shock.  There was a young girl. I can't remeber her name who is serious, haven't heard any news today so hopefully that is a good sign.  The driver was also hur but not as serious.

This is the second time in recent years Kieran has had a bad accident on that stretch of road.  The terrible thing is it was only a few hundred yards from Shaun Pauls house when it happened and he would have been home.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 02, 2007, 01:47:44 PM
Poor Kieran, I remember he had the leg broke a few summers ago when the marquee was up.  Good that he's stable, lucky to be alive, injuries sound horrific..  I only got a message frm him on bebo last week about his xmas plans, crazy to think what has happened. The tributes are pouring into SPOH's account.  Very very sad!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 03, 2007, 09:12:39 AM
RIP. I hope all those injured make full recoveries.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 08:38:30 AM
Horrible blow for Glenravel and the community with the loss of a top footballer and a top chap.

May God give his family and friends the strength to pull through this testing time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 04, 2007, 10:34:01 AM
lads just a quick question, who are the main hurling/football dual clubs in Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 04, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
Antrim team v Down in McKenna Cup this sunday

McGreevy
damien gault
colin brady
Laurence ? (st pauls)
sean mcveigh
gavin bell
AN Other
joe quinn
darryl martin
aidso gallacher
mick mccann
eoin o neill
micky rea
ciaran close- captain
paul close

heard this team announced at training last nite. forget who wing back is and not sure the corner backs surname.tony scullion and kevin brady away skiing. the forward line has a bit of potential but i would worry aout the defence.
what do people think?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 04, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
main dual clubs in belfast would be st pauls, rossa, st galls, st johns
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 04, 2007, 10:37:51 AM
Rossa, St Gall's, St John's, Gortnamona, St Paul's. Take your pick. It depends on the standard you are looking for.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 10:42:03 AM
Wee Closie at Full Forward?!  :o

don't believe that though if its true is a big mistake imho.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 04, 2007, 10:45:17 AM
Slimyer back at work then? Playing Close at FF in the Mc Kenna Cup is not bid mistake FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 10:48:20 AM
and you'd know Max!  :D

Closie aint a Full Forward, maybe thats where he could end his playing days but at the minute he needs to be on the wing or in the corner.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 04, 2007, 10:50:18 AM
I dont disagree, but my point that in the MC KENNA CUP, its not a big mistake, particularly if he is given a roving role. :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 04, 2007, 10:54:08 AM
i agree with slim. close aint a full forward. i think if brady was available he would be playing there with close in the corner. will be interesting to c how mickey rea fares out. dont no much about him
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 10:56:05 AM
Roving my hole, he's chief scoring threat on that team and needs to be close to the posts! Unless its a 2 man full forward line they're going with. By the looks of it he's gone for plenty of midfielders anyhow with the whole half forward line having played midfield for their clubs recently- Aidso played their for St Galls and Mick and Pig played their for us.

i know its only the McKenna Cup but we need to get things right early if we're to dump you hoors from the USFC  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 04, 2007, 11:04:42 AM
I see you have broken your new year pledge already :)
Title: Antrim Team v Down confirmed
Post by: aontroim on January 04, 2007, 02:51:26 PM
McKenna Cup - Antrim v Down

1. Sean McGreevy
2. Damien Gault
3. Colin Brady
4. Lawrence Higgins
5. Sean McVeigh
6. Gavin Bell
7. Niall Ward
8. Joe Quinn
9. Darrell Martin
10. Aiden Gallagher
11. Michael McCann
12. Eoin O'Neill
13. Paul Close
14. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
15. Mickey Rea
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 02:54:19 PM
who the fook is Lawrence Higgins?!

Closie the Captain, go on the boy ya  ;)

doesnt seem too long ago when he was running out the Casement door as Mascot!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 04, 2007, 03:03:43 PM
What club does M Rea play for
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 03:04:40 PM
Glenavy. But according to a previous poster he gets about!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 04, 2007, 03:19:39 PM
cheers slim
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:03:37 PM
Oh please. That has to be the worst Antrim team I've seen in years, and let me tell you I've followed our footballers up and down the country for years!

No out and out scoring threat up front.......paul close never scored when he was there before...aidso gallagher has no real feet, mick mccann maybe a couple of scores, micky rea is an unkown at that level and ciaran close cant do it against good oposition. as for the pig..a good oul grafer but just not at that level.

and as for choice fpr captaincy, reckon thats a complete joke. When the team needs driven on, close will be lookin up into stand to see who's watching him!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
has aidso got plastic feet then?!  :P

think you've gone a wee bit OTT there shady character, it is time to try these things out-play the players that havent been seen before-the likes of Mickey Rea and yer man Higgins and see what they have.

Close was a good captain for us last year, brought home the bacon  ;)

what club are you from Shady?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Certainly, young rea deserves a go. And lets hope he is the business!

Were you in Enniskillen last year?! Yes aidso has plastic feet! and 3 out of t 4 of the rest of the fellas have been there before and not really cut it, if we are being truthful about it.

The Mighty Kickhams is my club. And who knows maybe M&M can bring us home some bacon this year!

Yes, Close lifted the cup but not really a leader....cargin boys will tell you that themselves. You seem pretty fond of him Slim?! u must be quite CLOSE?! ha....sorry about the pun.
Getting carried off at end of the county final and then mysteriously losing his pain at the final whistle. Hardly the credentials of a leader Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 04, 2007, 04:24:05 PM
Is Rea not from Tyrone? 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:26:46 PM
Hes from Brackaville I think.....but now plays for glenavy. Let's hope he's not like alot of the other castaways we've tried in the past!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:28:40 PM
I had the misfortune of being in Enniskillen and getting the biggest soaking of my life yes with the rest of our panel that day. What a f**king piss of a day that was.

Close has problems with his calves-they cramp up sometimes but get back to normal after a few minutes rest. would it have been wiser him staying on the field unfit to walk?

what do you make of Daryll Martins County credentials?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 04, 2007, 04:31:42 PM
What age is he?  I heard he was from the Moy
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:34:53 PM
Dito.

AHAHAHA.......are you for real?? i swear that has to be the funniest thing ive heard in a long time!!

Are you his mammy?! Get real.......he didnt get a kick..not because his calves were too sore but becuase he let ur man mcdemott intimidate him, and physically overpower him, thus he was taken off.

You are good craic tho slim :-)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:41:15 PM
He scored 6 frees though before he left  ;)

Anyhow, Creggan must surely be favourites for this years Championship- they have more men on the County Panel than any other Club (8 i think) and with Mickey Moran at the helm they should really be an unstoppable force!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:49:13 PM
6 frees before he left?? county final u are talking about i take it Slim?
Cos it wasn't for sure in enniskillen.
and sure an excellent wee free taker but not a force from play at county level...so far.

Big Martin will  do ok this time of the year when the pitches are heavy and you need grafters...but prob not the answer come championship. Thats being honest.

Only 4 on squad, i think you'll find Slim. We aspire to great. Is that so bad? or should we sit back and let one club monopolise like happened for 4 or 5 years at club level
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 04, 2007, 04:53:44 PM
Im not from Antrim, but out of curiosity what is the craic with Creggan. Ive  heard they have 8 players on panel, then I hear 4.   How many exactly is there?  How good a side are they in all seriousness.  I would be able to rate the top few teams in Antrim but never heard much about Creggan.  You have St Galls/Cargin, then the likes of Lamh Derg, Portglenone, St Johns, Rossa.  But where would Creggan be?  I seen a large squad of them in Cookstown training a few weeks ago.  Obviously there is ppl to come into the Antrim Panel yet, such as P Cunningham and whoever else is playing for a Uni.  What about B herron, has he joined K Mc Gourty in simply opting out.  I hope you's do well, and believe me I think you's will be better without the likes of K mc Gourty, bit of a mouth and hasnt really delivered for Antrim.  Groom Crozier and the other McGourty in good time, but from what I hear the panel is gelling well and enjoying Jody's work.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:57:22 PM
Jaysus but yer a very touchy Character!!  :D I was only assuming you were going to be hard to stop this year- by your own admission round Creggan. I've listened to numerous Kickhams men blow themselves up as the next big thing (we've been there before eh?!) so its hardly strange for one to take such a view!

Hopefully now that MM is in charge he'll take down the daft sayings on the home changing room walls  ;)

and please, before you attempt to slate lads like Closie- make sure you have even 1 player better than him in yer ranks!! at the minute-you sure dont!


so, how good are Creggan? Someone please answer nrico, I couldn't seriously attempt to  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 05:08:07 PM
Touchy?? Definitely not. I am realistic. Creggan are not currently in the top 5 teams in the County. But we do lie somewhere between 5 and 9. Reckon that is accurate.

As for comparing close to creggan players. When did I say we had a better forward or a player capable of starring at county level? thats rite I didnt!I just made the point that for Antrim  against good teams he's never looked good enough. FACT.
Oh you are protective over ur little Bum Chum aren't you Slimy?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 04, 2007, 05:09:30 PM
i hear their hard to beat in that school pitch of theirs,not much good in the wide open spaces,basically u would have too say they are sh*te
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 05:12:10 PM
Byjaysus it doesnt take long for a Creggan man to show his true colours  :D ;D

3 posts and he's shown himself to be anti-Close, anti-Slim, anti-Cargin and anti-Jody for selecting the wrong captain!  :D

Show some love man, maybe thats were you're going wrong up in Creggan  :D


probably not though  ;)


nice one hightower!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
Anti-Slim?? don't flatter your self son!!

as for anti-jody not at all.....but i am entitled to my opinion.

There's not many people around Cargin who thought he was captain material...thats all....not a leader...a good club player and good free-tker. Full-stop. Now that hardly slating.
It's starting to become really clear that you are very fond of Mr. C... a close friend indeed!


Slander creggan all you like. But I didnt come on here to talk about mine or your club. So pull ur head out of your parochial back side and talk about what the conversation started with in the 1st place!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:21:04 PM
Mickey Rea is an ex-Derrytresk (East Tyrone) player and an important member of the Academy Hogan Cup winning side in 1997.

He'll get you scores - you'll be mightily surprised.....! He has never 'whored' himself around clubs. Derrytresk are a struggling Div 3 outift. He was courted by senior clubs and accepted a couple of offers.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 05, 2007, 07:56:11 AM
Are there other counties in Ulster playing players from outside the county on their teams? A Scullion plays for Down and R Gallagher has move to Cavan. Any others? I can't think of an example wher it has worked out well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on January 05, 2007, 08:50:28 AM
It's with a heavy heart that i'm writing this,having just returned today from Christmas i'm still in shock about the  untimely death of our playing colleague Shaun Paul, not only was he a class footballer he was also a fine hurler too. having been relegated last year he was looking forward to playing this year to get us promoted and had been training really hard. His death has left a massive hole in our club and it at this stage nobody can talk of GAA. The attendance and support from players from other clubs at yesterdays funeral shows how popular he was.
May God give his parents Sean and Sinead and his brother Ryan, sisters Kelly and Danielle the strength to get though this difficult time.
RIP SPOH
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 11:13:11 AM
Fao: Slim

I've just realised someting Slim. You said in an earlier post that u were part of the Antrim panel that day in Enniskillen. How many faces can you hide behind. First you have people thinking you are Geek, Then Screamer and now who?? Niall Scullion or somebody?! ha ha

Not that it really matters, but your identity is obvious, but het, your secrets safe with me!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 11:49:33 AM
Everyone knows my identity on here you tit! who said i was on the Antrim panel that day? not me.
my identity must'nt be that obvious or you'd know it  :D

and it obviously does matter to you or you wouldnt bring it up, you arrived on here, named yourself after me and proceeded to attack Closie- of course I'll defend him but doing that to the likes of you is pointless as your envy has no limits.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 12:07:20 PM
"I had the misfortune of being in Enniskillen and getting the biggest soaking of my life yes with the rest of our panel that day."


That's what you said you TIT!! And if it's the Cargin panel you are on about, then wise up you plonker!! The only place you ever played football was the USA, well until you got there and they realised you for the phoney that you are!!

Are u getting cross?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 12:10:14 PM
 :D ;D

you really are dim!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 05, 2007, 12:11:34 PM
Look Shady do yourself a favour and read through the past twenty pages, it will help you to stop making a dick out of urself.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 12:17:00 PM
aye shady- take Max advice. though a certain ex-USA/Aussie visiting Cargin man will be happy at your words of him!!!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 12:23:32 PM
Go back to the derry site max u p***k.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2007, 12:28:43 PM
Shady let's see if you can add something constructive.

What are your problems with Jody Gormley? He's not been in long so I don't know what you base these problems/fears on. Enlighten us.

You are from Creggan right? What are you or Creggan's expectations under Mickey Moran? Are youse back training yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2007, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: laceer on January 05, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:21:04 PM
Mickey Rea is an ex-Derrytresk (East Tyrone) player and an important member of the Academy Hogan Cup winning side in 1997.

He'll get you scores - you'll be mightily surprised.....! He has never 'whored' himself around clubs. Derrytresk are a struggling Div 3 outift. He was courted by senior clubs and accepted a couple of offers.

sorry oneill..'whored' may be a little strong but he played for derrytresk,brackaville,derrytresk and now his new club!?!know for a fact as well that he contacted a number of senior clubs(eglish being one)offering his services when he fell out with brackaville.don't think he could get a transfer to anywhere except derrytresk(his home club).he went back there for a while until he fell out with them and now he's playin for his girlfriend's home club!every man to their own but i don't think i could see myself ever playing for another local club over the sake of
a fall-out.

saying that he is handy and good luck to him..he was a hero in the academy along with mssrs thornton,early,mcguigan etc during that hogan campaign

Derrytresk would have him back in a flash, Laceer. There was no fall-out.
Best of luck to him on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 12:37:24 PM
Too right ONeill, I hope he has a stormer. Can't say I've seen the guy playing before but have heard some good reports about him-best of luck to him.

As for judging Gormley- f**k sake, its a bit early for that surely. At least give the man the McKenna Cup before we call for his head!! And to be honest he hasnt had everything his own way either what with injuries and players making themselves unavailable for the panel. He has to play with what he has.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
Absolutey no probelm with Jody Gormely. Seems like good enuf guy, that can bring some much needed discipline to the setup. Where did I slte him intomygun?

Someting constructive? With their best team out Antrim can be a competitive force.

points I made were about:
1. The tried and tested players
2. Lack of scoring threat for sunday
3. Poor choice of captaincy.

Not about Jody Gormely.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 05, 2007, 01:08:31 PM
been a while since there has been any urling chat on this thread, anyone know the list of entrants for the ulster hurling league this year.

Dunloy have entered it this year, personally i think its a good move now as the lack of matches was a huge hinderence last year. what you thik theskull
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
perhaps our learned kickhams buddy is a bit perplexed at the lack of Creggan men starting, or worse, maybe he hasnt been selected for the panel himself!  :D

1. Tried and tested players- like who? and who should be there instead?
2. Lack of scoring threat for Sunday- I wouldnt worry too much about Sunday but Mick McCann and Close are consistent scorers.(i dont know much about Rea or what form the other Close is in these days)
3. Poor choice of captaincy- this is a personal thing you have with closie, jealousy or something-i dont know.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 05, 2007, 01:40:52 PM
shady character, how long did it take you to make that up!
saying theres already a slimshady on here!

you say you have absolutely no problem with jody,
then you you question his choice of captain!!
do you suffer from short term memory loss, as in a sentence or two.

whats wrong with close as captain he is a sure starter all year,
which your captain has to be.

give jody and the squad a chance.
Title: UHL 2007 Entrants
Post by: aontroim on January 05, 2007, 01:42:58 PM
Looks like a stronger league than last year with all major Antrim clubs from Div 1 & 2 entered for 2007 - looks like CLooney are the only team from Div 1 & 2 not to enter.

Antrim (22)                    Armagh (6)
Loughgiel                       Middletown
St Johns                        Keady
Ballycastle                      Cuchulainn
Rossa                            Sean Tracey's
Glenariff                         Killeavy
Lamh Dhearg                  Craobh Rua
St Paul's
Cushendun                     Donegal (6)
Gortnamona                   Burt
Carey Faughs                  Setanta
St Endas                        Mac Cumhaills
Rasharkin                       Aodh Ruadh
Armoy                           St Eunans
Ballymena                      Four Masters
Dunloy
St Galls                          Tyrone (5)
Sarsfields                        Eire Og
Tir Na Nog                      Eoghan Ruadh
Shane O Neills                Shamrocks Strabane
St Brigids C Mills               Naomh Colum Cille
Ardoyne                         Gael Chamabhainn
Creggan

Down ( 8 )                      Fermanagh (2)
Ballycran                        Lisnaskea
Portaferry                      Lisbellaw
Ballygalget
Newry Shamrocks           Monaghan (6)
Bredagh                        Castleblaney
St Peters W, point          Truagh Gaels
Castlewellan                   Monaghan Harps
Clonduff                        Inniskeen
                                  Carrickmacross
                                  Latton

Derry ( 8 )              
Kevin Lynch's
Banagher                       Cavan (4)
Ballinascreen                   Mullahoran
Lavey                            Ballymachugh
Slaughtniel                     Cavan Gaels
Swatragh                       Woodford Gaels
Eoghan Rua
Na Magha
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2007, 02:20:46 PM
What's the story with promotion and relegation from last year?

e.g. Would Bredagh or the winners of division 2 go up to division 1?

Good to see St Galls and Dunloy in it. It will keep Milltown row happy! Having watched Dunloy's abysmal performance against Cushendall in the championship last year I know they are much better than that and if they can get youngsters shields, doherty etc. blended into their team with a few of these games they can make Antrim club hurling much better. The atmosphere at Dunloy - Loughgiel matches is special so a few tight games between those two in the latter of the championship would be a joy to behold!

Shady character - what are Creggan's expectations under MM? Enlighten us? Championship last four ? League top four? Or  are you aiming for the stars and looking for a championship??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 05, 2007, 02:46:34 PM
Back to work this Monday, can't wait was getting cabin fever.

Anyway yes we have entered the Ulster league, was an executive decision last year with the footballers at Croke. But looking forward to this year's competition.

Anybody any ideas of the structures? Would be unfair of us and Dunloy to waltz in and to the top division, well us anyway. What dates will they be? Looking forward to the year. Any venues/dates for the all Ireland club semis (hurling)?

Onto football, I'm sure most of our posters will be at the match this week to cheer on the new look Antrim team!!! I'm personally looking for an improved team from last year as the county committee believe that Jody is the ticket. I'm pleased (honestly) that he has taken a firm stance with certain players and although it will take time with the new boys I'm sure over the course of the 3 years Antrim will get better (well they couldn't get any worse) ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Oh dear oh dear...now we have culchy and Slim ganging up on me :-(

Cluchie....think you should concentrate on the football. A least you can play a bit.
Contesting Jodies choice of captain is hardly a major deal. He's knew into the job, and I think you will find that the point I am making is the opinion of both cargin and antrim players, but obviously not Slims opnion, as there may b sumting more going on btween him that meets the eye!! Will you b massaging his calves for sunday?!

As for Jody., I have no doubt when he has a fulller hand available to him he will do just fine.


A grand wee footballer, better that I ever was, but hasnt cut it yet at county level. Now tell me where the jealousy is there?

As for Creggan. I'm not on here spouting about winning cships etc. or about having  plyers making the county team, so need need to get stuck in to the Kickmans. Mickey will hopefully consolidate the hard work pit in by Hugh, and maybe bring us on another level. Are we Senior Cship material? Currently, absolutely not.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 03:00:27 PM
There ya go culchy, and you thought Rasharkin Reserves wasn't a high standard  :D shady character says you can play a bit!!!

you aint on here spoutin about winning championships, you're merely spouting shite!!

name names, who are the players better for the job? you come on with these 3 flaws in Gormleys management style already but have no solutions of yer own. Congratulations by the way, you've been here only 2 days and everyone knows you're a wally already  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 03:18:21 PM
A wally Slim??

No the definition of a wally is:

Someone who comes on to this site and justifies an inter-county player's poor championship performance, by saying he has tight calves!! ha ha.....moooooooo.............

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 03:28:00 PM
Hilaaaaaarrrriooous!!!!   :o


ok, i think you've made a big enough dickhead out of yourself so here goes-

i am NOT who you think i am and culchy is NOT who you think he is!!

you were back of the queue when they were handing out the brains at Creggan Primary weren't you?  :D ;D


Sherlock Holmes you certainly aint  ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 05, 2007, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 05, 2007, 01:08:31 PM
been a while since there has been any urling chat on this thread, anyone know the list of entrants for the ulster hurling league this year.

Dunloy have entered it this year, personally i think its a good move now as the lack of matches was a huge hinderence last year. what you thik theskull

Well it was either an intention of Antrim GAC last year to "force" clubs to play in the UHL this year or downright ineptness to do their job properly. Either way, any club interested in hurling has had to go this way. I do not expect the standard of hurling to be eanywhere close to the Antrim Leagues as these matches will be played without County Players. Also If the matches are "fitted" into saturday afternoons/evenings I expect people working and dual players with all county league matches the following day not to play either. This will drop the standard to an even lower level. A level which won't do the standard of hurling in Antrim any good at at. Sure there will be games, but the competition has to be mean something and be evenly contested for it to add up to anything worthwhile.
On the club side of things, I reallly hope that our young players get their chance and whatever management comes in has the confidence to stick with them. They will need time to bed in, but they will also need to demonstate the right attitude and show that they want it enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 03:44:39 PM
I was, right at the very back. Unfortunately when he arrived in toome, he was all done!

Who I am supposed to think culchie is anyway??

As for you, who the fcuk cares anyway?! Just happens I know who you are.
No big deal.

So get over it, and get back to what you know, talking shite about football.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 03:49:36 PM
Get over it?!  :D
you named yourself after me, you must care some bit! as for knowing me, as I said- its common knowledge on the board you tit!!  ;D

there is little point in talking football with you, you can't see the wood for the tree's and are way too negative thinking- no scoring threat, bad choice of captain blah blah blah.....

answer my questions, who should be on instead? Maybe....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 05, 2007, 05:18:53 PM
no need 2 bring other creggan ppl in this, jus cos shady is being a w***** and bring down the name of his club.  good luck 2 close and antrim on sun, cos i think they'll need it.
Title: FAO Milltown Row
Post by: CiKe on January 05, 2007, 09:16:40 PM
I hear Séan Kelly is in England this year? Whereabouts? Christ, if he is in London he'd be some addition to our team!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: TIRCONNAILGAEL on January 06, 2007, 08:08:10 PM
anyone know why mark dougan is not on the mckenna cup panel? was impressed with him last year in the competition espcially against derry
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 07, 2007, 05:48:53 PM
any reports from todays game? who played well ,who did'n't?
heard it was played in terrrible conditions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2007, 09:28:08 PM
Good to see Queens with three players starting -Crozier, McGourty and Niblock and the poly with at least two - Cunningham and Micko Herron. The more younger boys playing at that level the better.

Didn't make the game. Not a bad result considering the inexperience. More interested in how the newcomers did than the result anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on January 07, 2007, 09:29:45 PM
Paul Doc was also playing for UUJ, at centre half back. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 08, 2007, 12:47:33 PM
Any word of new managers within the county?  Whos taking who?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 01:49:00 PM
its as you were for us- hardly a shock!

MM at Creggan is the only other one I've heard.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on January 08, 2007, 01:50:37 PM
Is it Eddie Quinn from Moortown that is taking Rasharkin?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 02:02:48 PM
he's Quinn anyhow, not sure of his first name.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 08, 2007, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on January 08, 2007, 01:50:37 PM
Is it Eddie Quinn from Moortown that is taking Rasharkin?

yes
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 08, 2007, 03:13:00 PM
I thought it was Damien "Fudgie" Quinn??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 03:15:00 PM
i have been reliably informed his name is Enda Quinn!

Quinns are ten a penny in the moortown.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 08, 2007, 04:06:58 PM
Slim....at least you make me laugh :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:08:33 PM
what?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 08, 2007, 04:13:11 PM
I am refer to word assoc...brain dead today eh eh!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 08, 2007, 04:19:16 PM
i see shady markII hasnt reared his ugly head today then.
hes probably still eating that huge slice of humble pie.
aye close isnt up to it, with his sore calves and all.

theres no flies on you slim, not much gets by u!!!
you must keep ur ear close to the ground.
always knew there were plenty o rednecks around toome.

is delargy in at portglenyin way his blankety blank chequebook and pen.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
oh aye, brain dead alright! i'm supposed to know that you're referring to another thread on the other board!! f**k sake  :D

where is shady character today?

i hear Close had a good game yesterday as did Mick McCann by all accounts. Close with 3 from play and one free and Mick with 2. So much for no scoring threat.

anyone hear how Rea or the other Close played? or Higgins?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 08, 2007, 04:27:58 PM
only what i read in the paper slim.

rea hit 3 or 4 wides in the first half then got a point in second.
one of his wides was a goal chance in first half.

paul close didnt score and was taken off in second half, think higgins did alrite.

johnjoes mate got a run out yesterday, he came on for rea in the second half.

i see young crozier was on halfback for st marys, he scored a point.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:30:33 PM
think it was Queens!

who is johnjoe's mate?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 08, 2007, 04:32:43 PM
big magill.

aye the cargin boys done alrite yesterday
tomas mccann got a run out aswell.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:36:23 PM
ah, i see what you did there. He'll knock JohnJoes pan in if he gets the chance!!

wouldnt read too much into it yesterday but sure theres a sign of life thankully!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
No didn't get a chance to come on yday. Some of us have to work for a living.

Humble pie?? Why would I eat humble pie? As an Antrim supporter I am only delighted when we get a result.
Granted it was 2 very experimental sides, but a result nonetheless.

As for young Close, I heard he had a decent game. Fair play. I never ever questioned his cababilities, but I did question his abiltiy to perform against Ulster sides when at full strength. Nothing has changed, but hopefully I will be proved wrong.

Thanks for your indepth report there Culchie. It sounds as though there is also a bit of promise in young Rae. Lorence Higgins too. It will be interesting to see how Lorence fairs. A good strong, fairly tight marking player who seems to have improved as he's got older.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from shady character

''and sure an excellent wee free taker but not a force from play at county level''

Close scored 4 points from Antrims 9. 3 from play. Not bad for a man thats not a force from play  :D ;D

also, Antrims no scoring threat? Close scored 4, Mick scored 2, Rea scored 1, and Paul Close scored one. Thats 4 from the 6 forwards-not bad considering the half forward line was made up more of midfielders.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 02:38:28 PM
Considering you would like to go down the road of previous quotes, I must have my turn. This cracks me up!

Slim says, In reference to young Close having a stinker in the chamionship (and being replaced at half-time accordingly) v Fermanagh last year:
"Close has problems with his calves-they cramp up sometimes but get back to normal after a few minutes rest. would it have been wiser him staying on the field unfit to walk?"
Classic!!

It;s not getting through Slim. Taking nothing away from the fellows, 1 maybe 2 of those players will be on the Down starting 15. So whilst the result was great and very encouraging, it along with the performances must be put into perspective. As for Close, good game (2 from play, 2 frees), but my point is still the same. We need such players to do it aginst , the derry's, down's, cavan's, fermanaghs, tyrones and armaghs when they are full out. If and I hope they do, I will be the first to hold my hand up. So dont think that by certain players doing well I will somehow be embarrassed! Delighted I will be.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 02:43:51 PM
3 from play, 1 free. According to Close anyhow!

So basically yer a ditchman? quite happy to sit there and criticise players and management on their selection and leadership skills but are willing to celebrate these lads should they beat Derry? You haven't a clue. Your inane ramblings aren't even good reading as they are poorly constructed and you double up on yourself!

for the record, you'll find it was also a very experimental Antrim team on show and you won't see 8 of that team start against Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Is that the best you can came up with? To call me a ditch man, and criticise my posts?

Excellent stuff. This debate is starting to bore me a bit now. But for the record I never criticised mgt. but rather questioned a decision? Is there a difference?
If thats called crtiicism, then fine, as lons as its constructive then I remain the right to do so.
Perhaps I should come on here, kiss everyone involved in the Football set-ups ass and pretend that we are the finished article?!

I have not said anything in any of my posts that you will not hear from a selection of your mates on the county squad. Of course you will not admit that on here, but you know that is a fact. As  for me, time for a change of record.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:08:35 PM
too right it is, change the record indeed.

you are a ditchman, not even that-you hide behind the safety of yer computer and say the likes of Close isnt good enough to play against the Derry's and Tyrone's! when indeed you have never represented Antrim and never will.

Jealousy is a horrible thing sc, horrible horrible!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:15:34 PM
now now fellas no need to get all het up! ;D

i think jody is doin the right thing at this time of the year.
hes trying to blood new players to see what theyve got
he brought on the more experienced boys in the second half to settle the thing down
a bit when we were under pressure.
if he can blood new players and still get a result then fair play to him
he has done what many before couldnt achieve.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 03:17:42 PM
I dont think Slim will represent Antrim seniors either, he cant even kick the ball out properly :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:24:16 PM
 :D where or when did i say that i would?! i know i wont! But i also wont say that a player who performs consistently for his club after his 1st year as a senior player for Antrim isnt good enough. And if i did and he turned round and scored 4 points in his next game I'd have the balls to say I was wrong!!

also, if I did say he wasn't good enough I'd surely be able to give the names of those who should be in his place?????

culchy, why in under f**k do you write all yer posts like a poem?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 03:26:22 PM
One of the 7 deadliest sins slim.

My, you are very protective arent you?!

Is he your boyfriend?!

Ok, just for the record. My point was that: thus far, Close hasn't done it against the better teams in the bigger games. FACT.
But I also did say, that I look forward to the lad maturing into a good inter-county player. And I do believe that is a strong possibility, but not a formality.


Ok defintely subject closed from me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
you didnt say that!

ok, i will speak very slowly and make it simple for you-

who should be on ahead of Ciaran Close?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:30:29 PM
ollie duffin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:32:01 PM
sorry slim i cudnt resist!
by the way im cross eyed and can only see one half of the page
thats why i write everything on the left hand side of the page!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
I didnt say he shouldnt be on you maniac!!

At the minute he's one of the better forwards there. If everyone was available to Jody, he'd still be there-abouts.
If you are confused, read the previous post.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 03:38:25 PM
I believe that Slim is a terrier dog that wont let go, pretending to be a sub keeper who cant kick the ball out ,who wont ever play for Antrim seniors :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:41:14 PM
pretending to be  ;)

yer right culchy, he's no Ollie Duffin. But he could give Budgie McCann a run for his money!!

you said he wasn't good enough against the big teams-FACT. if he isnt good enough against them he shouldnt be there now, that makes sense. so, who would you bring in as manager that would do a better job against these 'big' teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:47:07 PM
shady character you what your called, and your from creggan.

you totally contradict yourself everytime you post
your not slagging off close but you say he isnt good enuf
huh!!

try being constructive in your criticism
by putting forward a resolution to all our problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 03:55:49 PM
No wrong Culchie. I did not contradict myself.

What I said was that in the 4 or so big games Close has played for Antrim he hasnt played well.
Am I lying?

And everytime I went on to say that he has the potential to improve to be a good inter-county player. Where is the contradiction there?
He has shown it for cargin and against the lesser county sides. My position has always been that :

1) More than good enough to be there
2) Needs to improve game this year come championship

My point about him being a poor choice for captain was not a reflection on his ability as a player, but rather a leader.

So don't get caught up in Slims little infactuation with CC!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 03:57:05 PM
Slim And Closey up a tree :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 04:03:06 PM
of course I'll stick up for him, he's a mate as well as a clubmate!

but here is what you've said about him-read for yourself-

A grand wee footballer, better that I ever was, but hasnt cut it yet at county level.

ciaran close cant do it against good opposition

and sure an excellent wee free taker but not a force from play at county level

not a leader...a good club player and good free-tker. Full-stop.


but now he's more than good enough to be there  :D ;D

Max, away on with ye, theres a tatoo artist in Belfast who's ordered a batch of CPM08 stencils in and he's waiting on your call!!  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 04:05:56 PM
Slim and Closey up a tree
giving hand jobs and
all for free :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 04:11:06 PM
ok shady, but you say close isnt good enuf against the bigger teams, but who is, who in your disturbed mind is as good as or better than close
against the so called bigger teams.

the fact is we arent kerry, we dont breed all-stars every year!
ciaran close is one of if not the best forwards in county antrim, comprondi !!
unless you know something we, being the rest of the county, dont please let us in on your, very well kept, secret weapon!!
comprondi mcfly!!

dont just keep repeating yourself saying that your not repeating yourself!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 04:11:14 PM
dont see anything wrong with that.

I said at the minute (current panel considered) he's more than good enough to be on.

Ok maybe "cant do it" was too damning. So lets change that to: hasnt done it, but can do better.
Redemption is a wonderful thing. Still doesnt change what I said about the lads performances to date for Antrim on the big day.
But heres hoping.



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 04:13:52 PM
nice to finally have gotten through that thick bonce of yours!!  :D :D

I was right and you were wrong, apology accepted.  :)

now, moving on.....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 04:20:00 PM
There once was wee wan called Slim
Who hailed from the townland of Toome
His English was blue
His graciousness not true
But his chances of plaing is still Slim.



:D :D :D :D :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 04:24:40 PM
Ok Culchie. Get out of Slims back side for a minute.

My repittition is merely me replying to Slim asking the same questions over and over.
Do you disagree with what I said about his performances? Dont fret Slim can take it!

Yes hes up there with the top 8 forwards in antrim, but it doesnt mean he shouldnt need to improve his game.
I refuse to name players who aslo havent done it. But to answer your question indirectly. Forwrds who have done it on the big day for antrim that are there currently: Brady, Magill, and did big Paul Doc not bag a couple against cavan 1 day?

But maybe our county are cursed. No Mcgourty, Madden, O'Boyle, Stewart, Micko, Kelly etc Granted herron and stewart never committed, so we don't know.
So maybe its time for others to step up to the mark.





Title: All-Ireland Club Hurling Semi-Final's
Post by: aontroim on January 10, 2007, 11:15:20 AM
SUNDAY 11th FEBRUARY 2007

All-Ireland Club JHC Semi-Final
SKEHANA (GALWAY) v CLOONEY GAELS (ANTRIM) - [MULLINGAR, 12:45pm]

All-Ireland Club SHC Semi-Final
LOUGHREA (GALWAY) v RUAIRI ÓG, CUSHENDALL (ANTRIM) - [MULLINGAR, 2:30pm]

All-Ireland Club IHC Semi-Final
KILLIMORDALY (GALWAY) v GORT NA MÓNA (ANTRIM) - [NAVAN, 1:00pm]

SLight advantage to the Galway teams for the mullingar games - no need for hotels and the like for them - cant see the antrim clubs going down the morning of the matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 10, 2007, 05:13:10 PM
whats wrong the slims arent fightin 2day??

anyways lets get another debate started here.  who do use think will win div1, div2, div, and div4 football.  div1, div2 and div3 hurling?.  sfc, ifc, and jfc.  shc, ihc and jhc.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 10, 2007, 05:14:19 PM
jeez man, thats a long debate with all them leagues. I'll tell you tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 10, 2007, 06:16:27 PM
Will have to wait to see who is in the leagues first before guessing winners - prob not much change in football but i can see yet another shake up in the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 10, 2007, 06:52:38 PM
thats very gud point der.  i heard the hurling leagues cud the changed.
just heard a few more managerial appointment have been made in the south west:
portglenone- paddy downey
tir na nog- gary coleman
moneyglass- mickey hughes
cargin- jc devlin
rasharkin- enda quinn
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 11, 2007, 12:21:41 AM
Quotetir na nog- gary coleman
  ;D - whatcu talkin about willis?

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Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 11, 2007, 12:30:36 PM
any word of what the team is for sunday against donegal in mckenna cup ?

any clubs started pre-season training yet!!
are creggan and st paul's the only two antrim teams in the ulster football league.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 11, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
we're in it. haven't trained yet either!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 11, 2007, 12:38:08 PM
Culchy

Who is the moortown man taking Rasharkin? Is it fudgie?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 11, 2007, 12:49:58 PM
Enda Quinn.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2007, 12:53:00 PM
Paddy Downey for the Ports....ambitious outfit the Ports :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 11, 2007, 12:58:03 PM
no sorry l'shore lad, i was mistaken when i was last speakin to you.
i was told it was fudgie quinn, but it is actually enda quinn.
he took the moortowns minors and u21's to grade 2 championships over the last lot of years.
he isnt that old, maybe early 30's. hes been down to meet the players a couple of weeks ago.
i dont want 2 scud him but i think he'll do a good job, well couldnt do any worse than last year.
do know who he is. i know theres a lock o quinns up round the lough l'shore lad.

is this ur first year entering ulster league slim, spose it wud be better than havin to arrange friendlies,
not that yous wud have another bother gettin opposition. starts bit early though, think it starts 4th feb.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 11, 2007, 01:46:37 PM
starts 4th Feb yeah, and it is indeed our first year in it. The last group games are early March anyhow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 11, 2007, 03:34:39 PM
Club Managers continued:

st galls- sean mc gourty
st pauls- eddie mc toal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2007, 03:35:33 PM
Is that Daddy Mc Gourty?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 11, 2007, 03:38:08 PM
as far as i know sean will not be the manager. position has not been filled in club for senior manager
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 11, 2007, 03:45:26 PM
Re club managers etc, a lot of different faces from last year.

Is Mc Toal and JC the only two still there from last year?

What about Lamh Dearg, any news yet from the top of the hill?

Whats the inside track on Downey. Max, you def dont seem to be a fan.  Will he bring in a right hand man, and if so who? Will he bring out the best in Portglenone?

Whats the view from Moneyglass, didnt he do a spell there?

And will Quinn take Rasharkin on a bit. Whats his credentials?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2007, 04:03:39 PM
Downey was a complete disaster last year, it wasnt the fact that we got beat in the championship it was his organisation and the actual poor performance of the team that reflected badly on him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 11, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
Portglenone should be a good test for him. They still see themselves as a top three or four team at worst. Time will tell tho!
Big year for them both.

Incidentally, Antrim could be interesting this year. Creggan, Lamh Dearg and St Pauls will all be pushing on this year too, so there will be a lot of tight meaningful games to look forward to, even allowing for the battle between the big two, Cargin and St Galls.

Think the standard in Antrim is improving all the time. St Galls raised the bar, and Cargin matched that intensity. Can any of the chasing pack close the gap, or is it going to open up further in the next few years?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 11, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
I hear creggan are training 2 nights a week already, they are keen and I think they pulling out all the stops to finish in the top 8 off the league by all accounts.Talking to a fella called Mc Quillian at work,he tells me Enda Quinn is the up and coming manager in tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on January 11, 2007, 08:35:14 PM
Downey at Portglenone - my god........they are a real knowledgeable outfit that lot.....

They have had some top managers......Gerry McPeake, Black Eddie, Kevin Kidd ;D and now paddy downey

Enough said. They deserve all they get - People who never succeed at Bellaghy in Management  - add that with the players who they took from Bellaghy reserves -  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 12, 2007, 11:21:06 AM
hightower, ur mates at works nickname wudnt be sweetchuck wud it! ha ha ha.

i dont honestly know much about enda, just what ive heard and he was down one nite talkin to the players.
but he certainly has made an impression from all that i have seen of him.
looking forward to see how all the others react to him when we start trainin.
as you wud expect hes big into the tyrone way of playin football.

hopefully we can give div 2 a good shout this year if not win it, im not for presuming we will because in div 2 its a real battle.
but on the positive we have owen quinn and jarlath (chisel) mooney back this year after a year in oz.
Title: Antrim v Donegal
Post by: aontroim on January 12, 2007, 11:32:59 AM
1. John Finucane
2. Damien Gault
3. Colin Brady
4. Lawrence Higgins
5. Sean McVeigh
6. Gavin Bell
7. Niall Ward
8. Joe Quinn
9. Darrel Martin
10. Aodhan Gallagher
11. Michael McCann
12. Chris Lynch
13. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
14. Kevin Brady
15. Michael Rea

Not much change from last weekend apart from Goals and 2 forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 12, 2007, 11:35:58 AM
Brady can only strengthen the team, I'd imagine he'll be in good enough shape fitness wise and has a wealth of experience in what is a relatively inexperienced side.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 12:52:05 PM
Culcy, don't know his nickname but M Mc Quillan was telling me Raymond Munroe was looking him to go with him with one of the Tyrone development squads so he must know something.Is the manager who was over the Loup last year going with P Downey at Portglenone forget his name thou
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 12, 2007, 01:15:38 PM
Was  Delargey not thrown out of consideration for the Portglenone job for trying to tap up Michael Magill ! Looks like the evergreen Frankie Doherty will be the man entrusted to assist Downey with the task of bringing the Antrim Championship to Portglenone. Would expect Kevin O Kane to be involved in some capacity, wasnt he Downeys right hand man at Bellaghy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 01:20:03 PM
He was, his communication skills remind me of Slim, one liners and insulting
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 01:37:54 PM
Max you musn't have a pile of time for K O'Kane ala Black Eddie or ex Bellaghy players "G Mc Peake or P Downey" and I think Johnjoe must have inside info on Portglenone he seems to know alot.Went to school with F Doherty's son Owen,was he not involved with county minor setup for a few good years
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 01:41:59 PM
All wrong, like the guys the best, were talking football here, not personalities
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 03:12:37 PM
Was K O'Kane manager in94-95 season when he got yous to an All-Ireland which turned out to be a lottery on the day given the conditions.G McPeake was he not involved with the team that Crossmalina beat in an All-Ireland semi,they must know something about football M AX
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 03:21:08 PM
Johnjoe I think I heard something about that'Delargey thing',he must have thought he was in the Premiership,but I hear he's a good enough manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 03:32:12 PM
Wrong on all counts. Tommy Doherty was the manager, O'Kane his assistant. Quinn,Diamond and Cassidy called the shots, did the training and the talking. Mc Peake wasn't near the management when we got to the semi final that Croosmalina won
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 03:44:55 PM
Max My mistake,was S Birt and G McPeake not joint managers or was McPeake just a water carrier like O'Kane was when crossmalina beat them?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 03:47:22 PM
Mc Peake was assistant to Birt in 98. Look....the bellaghy taem of that time any person who had a reasonable idea about football and discipline would have won a championship because of the quality...except of course for that man Chris Brown
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: thewatercarrier on January 12, 2007, 04:02:21 PM
K O'Kane couldn't have had anything to do with a good footballing team. Was he not under the Antrim minors for something like 5 years without a win? As for F Delargy awful manager, awful motivator! Heard at the Loup he was basically a figure-head, nothing more. McBride ad Mcflynn ran he team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 12, 2007, 04:37:22 PM
Water carrier, thats a good positive first post. O`Kane shite, Delargey shite!!

Never heard anyone say anything good about O`Kane, and he has been round the block a fair bit. But in fairness I`ve heard some good reports about Delargey as a coach and a manager. Was talking to a few of the Loup lads and he recoved after a wobbly start to finish quite strong, and thats coming from both of the lads you mentioned earlier( Mc Bride and Mc Flynn).

Wouldnt imagine it would have been an easy assignment, sandwiched between O`Rourke and Barton, but you cant say they had a bad year with a second place finish in the league. Maybe the Loup could do without a manager at all, if the players are going to call the shots. Have you a personal grudge against O`Kane or Delargy, cause you were very quick in there for your first post?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 05:04:53 PM
Now now I take it you don't get oil from O'Kane fuels watercarrier,you are starting to sound like big bad MAX next thing you'll be posting poems about them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 12, 2007, 11:06:26 PM
all this shite talk about Derry managers in antrim so what. all these teams need to put the effort in, and if they are up to the standard come august then yeah it might have been worth the money paying for these guys
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 15, 2007, 09:53:34 AM
good to see some newcomers, well some of them have been around for a brave while now, are showing well in the mckenna cup.
fair play to beller, i see he got the starman in the irish news this morn even though we got beat.
and paddy logan back in the saffron jersey, he used to win games on his own at underage, he has had back luck with injuries so lets hope paddys back to his best.
was anyone at the match?

i see also the u21s played donegal 2 matches on sat with 2 different teams and won both.
the only worrying thing for me is that tomas mccann, played for u21s on sat and then came on for seniors yesterday.
he shudnt have to do this.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 15, 2007, 09:56:15 AM
if he was given the choice Tomas would have played both anyhow- he can't get enough football!!

wasn't at the game but heard it was a crap game though Antrim done well considering they played most of the game with 14 men after Higgins was sent off.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 16, 2007, 12:28:02 PM
I see Sambo & Woody are blooding on their minors while the 'Dall contingent are absent.....

Antrim v Down Senior Hurling Challenge 15 January 2007

Antrim and Down senior hurlers played a friendly on Saturday 13th Jan at Mallusk in very wintery conditions.

Down started brightest with a goal and a point before Antrim replied with their first point through Johnny McIntosh, followed up by ponts from Kieran Kelly, Karl Stewart, and McIntosh again. Paul Shields then scored a goal and point for Antrim with McIntosh adding a goal to his tally before half time. Down had scored a goal plus 2 further points to leave the score at half time Antrim 2-5 v 2-2 Down.

Conditions worsened in the 2nd half with both teams making many changes at half time. Antrim scored another 6 points in the second half through Liam Watson, Paddy Doherty, Paul Shields, and Johnny Campbell while Down added another goal to leave the final score Antrim 2-11 v Down 3-2.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2007, 04:22:37 PM
I think these lads would benifit more from a years club hurling rather than going straight in to Senior. Take a look at what Ross Carr is doing in Down. He is deliberately not selecting the star minor players from a couple of years ago so they can enjoy their football for a year or two before they are ready to be called in at 21/22. Both Shortie and Paddy are dual players and have had a hard two years slog already in the minor ranks (shortie in particualar). Paddy Doc has still to prove his worth at Senior level for his club so why include him in a County Squad at such a young age? Dinny did this with Darren Quinn for 3 years and he's still not the hurler everybody expected him to be for the simple reason (IMO) that he sat on the bench for 3 years instead of cutting his teeth with his club first. I do think Darren will come though. Shortie is a class act, but he needs to fill out and that will take time. I think this is not in the best interests of the player for him to be included

Were there any other minors playing on Saturday?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 16, 2007, 05:31:52 PM
Randal McDonnell was also playing (minor 2 years ago?)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 17, 2007, 11:13:36 AM
 Just got word that the old south Antrim hurling leagues will be starting up again, this will be good providing all clubs participate this time and all the hassles of the previous attempts fixed. Refereeing was always the problem and a lot of teams couldn't be bother to turn up.

This was the main reason why we (Naomh Gall) asked to play in All County leagues, but if there is good numbers for the league then it should bring more hurling into Belfast........ Any Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 17, 2007, 12:28:32 PM
i hear that the div2/3 debacle between rossa and glenavy will be resolved in the next 24/48 hours.
i wonder what outcome they have come up with.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 17, 2007, 05:19:03 PM
rossa always seem to be involved in some sort of arguments, Am I right that a few years ago they refused to be relegated from ACFL Div1 and the county board accomodated them by making it a 11 team league that next season
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on January 18, 2007, 08:26:23 AM
That would be right, they threatened to pull their players off the county panels if they were relegated and the county stated they wouldn't be relegated due to their services to the county!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 09:32:29 AM
Has anyone in North Antrim been able to get a copy of Gaelic Life yet? I seen the ad on TV last night. It's out on a Friday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 18, 2007, 09:35:42 AM
i've got it both weeks its been out its in a Newsagents in Ballymoney

I'd be pretty sure it would be in the shops in Dunloy too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 09:41:21 AM
aye its available at all good newsagents,although they are few and far between in north antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 18, 2007, 10:36:42 AM
How many clubs in Antrim would be back training yet?

My own club haven't had the AGM yet so it'll be a couple of weeks before we're back
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 11:16:13 AM
aye its available at all good newsagents,although they are few and far between in north antrim!

Do you mean that good newsagents are "few and far between" or there is not many copies of Gaelic Life. What did you think of it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 09:41:21 AM
aye its available at all good newsagents,although they are few and far between in north antrim!

Do you mean that good newsagents are 'few and far between" or there's few copies of Gaelic Life. What did you think of it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 11:20:47 AM
Think he means good hurlers are few and far between in North Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 11:25:50 AM
okocha where in the hell have you been hiding!
how have you been getting on with the county/uni in the mckenna cup?

well the best hurlers in antrim are from the north coast, have been for the last two years!!

sorry caman man i meant the newsagents are pretty shite in n.antrim.
paper itself is a good read.
was there not something very similar out a couple of years ago or is it the same paper!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 11:25:50 AM
okocha where in the hell have you been hiding!
how have you been getting on with the county/uni in the mckenna cup?

well the best hurlers in antrim are from the north coast, have been for the last two years!!

sorry caman man i meant the newsagents are pretty shite in n.antrim.
paper itself is a good read.
was there not something very similar out a couple of years ago or is it the same paper!

I think this paper is based in Tyrone and although there's a lot of football in it at the moment,, I've heard that they plan to give hurling a good dig when the league starts up. I would be nice to have a good paper for us all. Yes there was another similar style paper a few years ago but Gaelic Life is from a different company. Was checking out their website www.gaeliclife.com.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Sky Blue on January 18, 2007, 11:40:32 AM
Are you yet another one who works for them Hurley man or the same guy who used 3 or 4 names to raise publicity already! Pathetic attempts at marketing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
Hiding is the correct word, in case big Magill gets me! Anyway, good to see he is training away at the minute, and hopefully he sticks one in the Derry net come June, and turn round and say "stick that Johnjoe". Even better if its the winner in injury time!

N e way, to tell you the truth Im not on Jodys panel at all, or never was. Bit like Max, wouldnt be up to that standard at all. Just a wee smokescreen to gets the hounds off the scent. Still have the three security guards round the clock tho!

Apart from that Culchie all is good. Has your man Quinn started the big comeback trail in Rasharkin yet, and whats he like?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 12:14:39 PM
we havent started yet, think we start sunday week, he seems good enuf havent seen much of him but he has the right attitude anyhow.

what bout ursel, do you still play or have you hung up the boots, to be a barstool general.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 12:38:53 PM
Its the barstool all the way Culchie. Easier on the limbs, harder on the pocket!

Would be an Antrim man thru and thru, but like yourself, living near the Bann, I`d have an interest in the Derry scene too. Could be an interesting year, getting Derry in senior, minor and u-21 this year. Think we could win a couple of them at least. Bring them on, they are ripe for the takin!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 01:47:09 PM
wud i be correct in assuming ur from portglenyin, then!

8)

all the same okocha wudnt be a name associated with there!! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 18, 2007, 01:53:52 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 12:14:39 PM
we havent started yet, think we start sunday week, he seems good enuf havent seen much of him but he has the right attitude anyhow.

what bout ursel, do you still play or have you hung up the boots, to be a barstool general.

Culchy was chatting to a few moortown men at the weekend and asked about Enda Quinn. All had a good word for him - managed their minors to a grade 2 or 3 minor championship in 2005 and apparently is quite good from a tactical view point, that particular panel only had 17 players and apparently he utilised all 17 extremely well running players in and out of games through out the year. The consensus was he should do a good enough job for yous!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 02:10:25 PM
Aye, Culchie, sure youd that sussed a long time ago. Wouldn`t be involved with them on any sort of regular basis, but I have a couple of kids at the club, juvenile camogie and underage football. Your detective work is going well today! Might have to up the security arrangements!

At least the thread is moving better. Mind you it could be jazzed up a bit more when the season starts for earnest. The content on the Derry board will make for good crack in the coming months too. Bet we were the one draw they really didnt want. Do you think we can take them?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 02:40:24 PM
och sure its all a bit of craic as long as no one gets too personal!

of course we can beat them, heres hoping for a good nfl, to get us well ready for them.
our boys are every bit as good as them, just not as committed, but maybe jody can change our way of thinking.
the thing is i dont see derry having a good nfl, so they will be comin into the game on the back of a bad run.
winning breeds confidence.
but we have to believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on January 18, 2007, 02:49:44 PM
Has anybody heard what the spirit in the Antrim camp is under Gormley? There were rumours of discontent surfacing after a few months of Culbert's reign. From what I have heard he is training them hard.

It's good to see McGreevy back. He is among the best goalkeepers in Ulster. Thon Murray boy had a bit too much of the Rene Higuita about him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 03:09:08 PM
heard everyone is knuckling down to business, just gettin on with it.

i suppose there are no prima donnas on the squad at present, which helps, and no interviews with the press of late either!
jody wants to keep everything on the qt!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: goldenyears on January 18, 2007, 03:10:58 PM
what do you boys think of hugh mcgettigan?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 18, 2007, 03:52:53 PM
Lads lets be realistic, Antrim are not gonna be a threat until they sort out the mid-field area, Joe Quinn is still there, lets be honest, he's not really good enough at that level, he is a big strong lad, but his delivery to the forwards is rubbish, he cant score, In my apinon one of the reasons Antrim have struggled in resent years was due to the lack of quality ball into the reasonably acurate forwards, and to me Joe is one of the Culprits, what about Mick McCann & Kevin "the brat" McCourty or even a fit Paddy Logan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on January 18, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
Quotewhat do you boys think of hugh mcgettigan?

Did/does he teach in St Marys?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 04:33:14 PM
Unfortunately we are not over blessed with natural mid-fielders. Big Joe can still pull out a big display, but he should not be allowed to use the foot too much. Eddie Quinn has been the best mid-fielder in the county for the last 10-12 years, but chose not to play for the county. Mick mc Cann is a decent prospect for sure, but you`d nearly need to be 6`3 or 6`4 to go in against an O`Shea, Whelan or Mc Grane.

Still, those two are definitely the best we have at the moment, and sadly, I cant think of too many in the 18-22 year old group thats going to change that any time soon. Interestingly, big Seamus Mc Cluskey might step into big Eddie`s shoes - not a bad player at all. I know he`s raw, but he can field a ball, and he`s ignorant enough for mid-field. What`s your opinion Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 18, 2007, 04:36:13 PM
By the way slim , has there been any retirements from the Cargin Set up, ie Wiggs, Michael Johnson or Big Eddie, whats the news
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 08:39:25 AM
Seamy McCloskey is a good prospect, so too is Gerard McCann who is a good 3 inches taller than Big Seamy! Played midfield for the County minors last year but has been dogged with injury since. Both need a year or two on our senior team before thinking about the county but they are certainly 2 for the future.

Mick McCann could mix it with anyone at midfield, he might not be 6' 4'' but he has a serious leap on him and is a top class fielder. Great score-getter too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 19, 2007, 09:56:39 AM
Ta Slim. Thats right, youse have Gerard Mc Cann too - forgot completely all about him. Thats a serious bunch of young fellas coming through there at the minute. Mick, Tomas, Gerard, KOB, Justy, big Seamy,- all look like county players for the next 10 years!

And more to the point, three of them are mid-fielders too!! Future starting to look green all right. Thats good for the county though, and its now up to other clubs to get up to the Cargin and St Galls standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 10:17:52 AM
Cargin seem to have alot of young talent coming through, Kevin O'Boyle is an excellant footballer, that's a credit to the coaches and coaching structure in Cargin, what's wrong with the rest of the county, where is this talent, is that maybe the other clubs do not have the youth or is it that the fault lies with the coaches or the indeed with the clubs coaching structure, I am pretty sure its not the loughshore air thats makes the differnce in cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
There are plenty more young lads coming through as well round our way, this years minor team has a lot of talent in it and the following year will see 4 or 5 big strong lads in it. Another McCann on the way through is Paul, played for the U21's this year and is minor next year- one to watch.

Kevin O'Boyle will be out for a while yet, needs an operation but hopefully he'll be ok. would love to see him mark Paddy Bradley in June!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 10:39:27 AM
Slim is there any retirements from the cargin senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 10:41:09 AM
from last year? nope. none that have said so anyhow. training started on Wednesday past and everyone was there, even the odd new face  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2007, 11:50:48 AM
Taken from antrim website.....


QuoteJody Gormley has named his Antrim side to face UUJ in the last group game of the Gaelic Life Dr. McKenna Cup.

1. Sean McGreevy
2. Conor McGoldrick
3. Colin Brady
4. Niall Ward
5. Chris Lynch
6. Gavin Bell
7. Sean McVeigh
8. Joe Quinn
9. Aodhan Gallagher
10. Tony Scullion
11. Kevin Brady
12. Hugh McKay
13. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
14. Michael McCann
15. Micheal Magill

Four Antrim players make their first starts of the competition – Conor McGoldrick comes in at corner back, and Tony Scullion, Hugh McKay and Michael Magill are all introduced into a re-arranged forward line.

The game against the students of UUJ takes place in Casement park on Sunday 21st January with a 2:00pm throw-in.

Big split Counry Forwards v City defenders/midfield (bar McVeigh)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: aontroim on January 19, 2007, 11:50:48 AM
Taken from antrim website.....


QuoteJody Gormley has named his Antrim side to face UUJ in the last group game of the Gaelic Life Dr. McKenna Cup.

1. Sean McGreevy
2. Conor McGoldrick
3. Colin Brady
4. Niall Ward
5. Chris Lynch
6. Gavin Bell
7. Sean McVeigh
8. Joe Quinn
9. Aodhan Gallagher
10. Tony Scullion
11. Kevin Brady
12. Hugh McKay
13. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
14. Michael McCann
15. Micheal Magill

Four Antrim players make their first starts of the competition – Conor McGoldrick comes in at corner back, and Tony Scullion, Hugh McKay and Michael Magill are all introduced into a re-arranged forward line.

The game against the students of UUJ takes place in Casement park on Sunday 21st January with a 2:00pm throw-in.

Big split Counry Forwards v City defenders/midfield (bar McVeigh)


:o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2007, 12:02:08 PM
Thought that looked a bit strange alright Slim - will he just get a free rols about the middle to scrap for ball or has he played forwards for you's before?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 12:05:14 PM
never played forwards for us before-ever!!

i'd say he'll play in around the middle 3rd of the field- Gormley seems to be doing this a lot in the opening games, he plays big men in the HF line and must bunch up the midfield leaving Close and the FF's plenty of room. Hence McKay on the other wing, he's a midfileder.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 19, 2007, 12:14:07 PM
full forward line looks good!

slim you were saying earlier about mick mccanns fielding, i mine him a couple of years ago you's played galls in portglenyin
it was a very tight match, mick was in at full forward, a high ball was put in,came down with snow on it, mick rise a good couple feet above his man,
turned and hit the back of the net, great piece of skill.

im sure there will be plenty of changing during the match on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
great goal alright, won the game that goal- G O'Boyle scored a couple of crackers that day too.

surprised you're here culchy and not at home applying yer fake tan for tonights prestigious dinner dance.

watch that chain outside arbys, bastard thing got me 6 stitches!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 12:29:09 PM
yes, he's back indeed.

I'm not one for the limelight myself-you cant really refuse a cameraman when presenting an award!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 01:29:23 PM
I heard Big Eddie & Mick Johnson had hung up there senior boots
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 19, 2007, 01:33:18 PM
lads what club is Ethan the Searcher from?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 01:39:05 PM
if you heard it then its true!!

i wouldnt count on it all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 01:42:44 PM
Slim what are the approx ages of the aforementioned players
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 01:44:41 PM
Big Ed would be about 33/34 and Mickey would be 36/37.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 01:50:20 PM
ahhhhh. that they were older, avoiding injuries they could play senior football yet, but were are cargin gonna play all this new young talent ????
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
Slim , apart from JC who seems to be doing the business has any other Manager been as success at Cargin
Culchie , any decent managers in Rasharkin lately, Francis Halferty seems to be successful at underage
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 10:25:32 AM
are you talking senior level?

our u16s Won the SW League & Championship, which isn't easily won considering playing against the amalgamated Sean Stinsons outfit!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 10:44:57 AM
sorry slim , just seniors
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 10:47:20 AM
well before JC & Co we had Kevin O'Kane (was shite) and then Danny Quinn & Matthew Gribben (v poor)

previously John Brennan was the last to win the Championship in 99/2000
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 10:52:22 AM
was danny not a good coach or was just v poor alround, just he seems to have a reputation for being a quality coach
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
ethan, i'm still under the impression that you are indeed Maximus Marrilius so you know my thoughts on this already!

you can run but you cant hide!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 11:14:50 AM
whatever you think,
You must be reading to much Sherlock Holmes stories,  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 22, 2007, 11:19:29 AM
Slim, somebody has been messing with ur head.....again
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 11:24:07 AM
Yep, whatever you say.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 11:31:44 AM
Slim - max seems to have made you very paranoid, mention Danny Quinn and you clam up, keep taking the prozac
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 22, 2007, 12:10:34 PM
double e and max, what do you's bellaghy men have against slim !
ganging up on him, do you's not know eachother bein from the same place or used to be !


ethan, our best senior manager over the last while would be paddy mcneill, under him we finished 4th in league and got to championship semi-final.
apart from that, ciaran loane took us up from div 2 before he was good, but his health hampered him at that time,
colm rocks,from loup, took us for 3/4 months he had right idea, but left because players attitude was shite, as did damian o'boyle last year. not there long to get a fair reflection.
and kevin kidd took us last year, he did alrite with portglenone but dont think he is any good, we got relegated last year under him.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 22, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
Kevin Kidd has done the rounds....boy is he crap,,,still manages to get the phone call
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 03:13:44 PM
Cluchie, you are the 1st man that I've heard praise Paddy McNeill as a manager, he is said to be a very good fitness coach but once a football is introduced he is appartently lost, Paddy is a good lad though, was the relegation all down to Kidd to you think, and as Max says he does get about a bit, is he with anyone this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 22, 2007, 04:44:25 PM
Not much detail about yesterdays game from an Antrim perspective. Anyone on the thread at the game? Anyone have a good game?

Looking at the match reports, 8 Antrim players featured for the various universities, must be a long time since this happened before this year. ( Doc, Micko, Paddy Cunningham, Loughrey, Crozier, Niblock, McGourty, and young CJ.)

Kevin O Boyle is still out hurt, or he could have made it 9. Theres no doubt some good things are starting to happen in Antrim football. Good to see Micko concentrating on it too at the minute. For the first time I can remember, there is the nucleus of 20-30 players good enough to play high level inter county football. Certainly we should get a strong 15 out of it for the c`ship, especially if Kelly and Convery return too.





Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 22, 2007, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 03:13:44 PM
Cluchie, you are the 1st man that I've heard praise Paddy McNeill as a manager, he is said to be a very good fitness coach but once a football is introduced he is appartently lost, Paddy is a good lad though, was the relegation all down to Kidd to you think, and as Max says he does get about a bit, is he with anyone this year

wee paddy maybe isnt the best manager, but he is the best we have had or should i put it like this we got the best results with him in charge, he is a tough taskmaster.
you would be right in saying that he is big into fitness. ask any of the county players from last year.
no kidd wasnt all to blame for getting relegated, the players have to take the blame also, but even as late as the playoff he didnt make changes soon enough, he stuck with the same boys all year and wouldnt give others a chance. he applied to take us this year again but enda quinn got the nod instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 04:59:56 PM
Rasharkin will be expecting immediate promotion, its never easy winning leagues, easier to stay up than get up, your ex-pats will be back to bolster your panel though
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on January 23, 2007, 09:32:04 AM
Match on sun - sean mc veigh , christy lynch very good.  Michael mccann and micael magill showed well (Mccann should be mid of park), kevin Brady came into it well near the end of the second half.  Midfield were dominated as was majority of half back line - but you have to take into consideration j'town are near sigerson and are flying.  Any other views.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: illdecide on January 23, 2007, 01:19:19 PM
Hi lads Slimshady was on our site (Armagh club football) talking shite, i see he's doing the same on the Antrim one.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 23, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
Fao: I'll decide

And you thought you wud come on here to tell us that?

Clear off toss pot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: illdecide on January 24, 2007, 08:37:12 AM
Hi shady who the F**k rattled your cage you c**k box, sorry if i interrupted your conversations about what its like to win a championship match. Stick your Antrim thread up your arse >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 24, 2007, 02:29:06 PM
What a load of shite lads.

Have a look at Derrys page today, and the level of sensible debate. Sometimes you get good enough craic/debate here, but most of the time its negative and childish.

Heres one for you.

Do you think John Mc Sparran is a good county chairman? Has he delivered on his pre-election promises? Do you care?

Keep it constructive please.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 24, 2007, 02:33:20 PM
no, in a word.

the fixtures last year were nothing short of a disgrace. Playing an U21 championship the week before Christmas is ludicrous as well as not allowing for a drawn SFC Final and having it played to extra time- and if it had been drawn the winners may have been asked to play the USFC 1st round the day after the replay!!!  ;D :D

so on that basis, no.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 24, 2007, 04:24:19 PM
I was talking to John about these problems in the not to distant past and he assured me that he had every ambition to fix these problems, but that it was going to take time to break down the very top heavy committee way things are currently conducted in Antrim. He said it would take at least another year to remodel the county board structure. maybe ye want to much that cant be delivered that quickly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 24, 2007, 04:26:29 PM
wanting the Championship Final to be played at a reasonable time of year is too much? Antrim were out of the Championship by the July holidays and we finished the Championship near Halloween!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 24, 2007, 04:27:21 PM
the fixtures problem is not soley down to Dr John, the fecking clubs wont play the matches when they are fixed, they make up of sorts of excuses, I am mainly refering to league matches, the clubs cant always blame the board they must take a look at themselves and stop gerning
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 24, 2007, 05:46:40 PM
Point taken Slim. Liam O Kane has paid the price for the fixtures c**k-up. He is a big loss to the county though. Take a good lok at the county strategic plan, and then tell me we can do without a man like Liam O Kane!

Seriously, make it a priority to get a copy of this document. Liam O kane courted the opinions of every segment of GAA activity in the county, ran seminars, invited written submissions from every club, individual ,or group. His final version not only diagnoses our problems,(which every bar room expert already knows) but has implemented an action plan to remedy. Yes, a timescale, the finance involved, and who is taking actual responsibility fot its deliverance. Its the best road map of its kind in the country, and after a year of burning the midnight oil, and coming up with such a brilliant piece of work, he gets shafted over the one job he didnt want to touch with a bargepole.

The floodlights in Casement were supposed to be on, except for unforeseen planning objections, so a lot of windows were lost to read up the log jam etc. And  of course the one match that needed a result ended up with the draw that cocked things up even further.

Fixtures were a total mess tho, no one can dispute that. But surely JMS has contributed more in a year than his predecessor did in ten! I`d be well impressed with his first year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 25, 2007, 10:19:50 AM
heard that frankie delargy is to coach glenravel this year with barney reid as manager!

good luck to them both, they'll need it.

also heard that a fella mcgarry from loughiel is for playing football for glenravel this year, he was fullback all year,then dropped for the championship final and has
had a falling out with loughiel, just what i heard maybe speculation.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 25, 2007, 11:02:20 AM
Wish Frankie all the best with Glenravel, as you sy Clunchie it'll be a tough job, I would have thought that Frankie would have wanted to be manager aswell, but there you go
Title: Transfer season
Post by: aontroim on January 25, 2007, 02:29:01 PM
Any major news on inter-club transfers yet - transfer window opened since start of Jan - closes end of Feb.

Havent heard anything concrete yet but there was talk of a lot of McDermotts players going to St. Pauls and of course the Portglenone saga talked about before Christmas.

Anything definite yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on January 25, 2007, 02:30:41 PM
I hear from word up the county that Paddy Logan will be playing for All Saints Ballymena this season, can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 25, 2007, 02:33:09 PM
no McDees men going anywhere, from what i heard Matt Bradley will be taking them next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 25, 2007, 06:40:54 PM
i hear he's for casements but now delargy is supposed to be glenravel bound,delargy could now be in for him 'saffronman'
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 26, 2007, 10:04:57 AM
Was talking to a die hard Antrim football supporter last night, who hasnt missed a game fot years. He had been "reasonably" impressed with the displays against Down and Donegal, but reckoned that last Sundays game against UUJ was by far the worst Antrim performance he has ever seen. Thats some statement, because there have been a fair few stinkers in the length of time this person has been following our senior footballers.

Not wanting to dampen any of this new found enthusiasm for the new management team, and I know a lot of players were missing/playing for uni`s etc, but this guy is a good judge, and reckons we are rank outsiders on Sunday against Mick O Dwyers Wicklow who have been re-vitalised. Hope I`m wrong, cause this was one of the few fixtures last year where we got league points, albeit at Casement.

Hope our little bubble will last longer than the first couple of league games!



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 10:43:21 AM
Its Official Frank Delargy is new coach at Glenravel but he is not involved in team selection,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 26, 2007, 11:03:39 AM
I know Frankie right and well, and if he takes on Glenravel, he will put his everything into it.

Most teams have a few players who are county class, and tragically Glenravel lost one of theirs as we all know. Who are their main players outside of O Loan, if he plays, Windows, and an aging Martin Mulholland? Would they be expected to come straight up from div 2?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on January 26, 2007, 11:46:37 AM
Johnjoe,

Even before what happened to Shaun Paul we weren't expecting to have an easy year as we don't have the players coming through so it could be a couple of years before we're challenging for promotion.
It won't be easy with local derbies against Ballymena and Rasharkin with a few akward trips to belfast, following Shaun Pauls death it will be interesting to see how we react this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 26, 2007, 12:13:59 PM
I know Frankie right and well, and if he takes on Glenravel, he will put his everything into it. :D

I love it! Just cheered me up on a Friday John Joe! You are a legend!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 26, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
I know Frankie right and well, and if he takes on Glenravel, he will put his everything into it.

will he be offering LOADSAMONEY to players from other clubs as he ahs done already this Winter???

it seems he's taking Glenravel as a last resort- nobody else will have him  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 01:20:05 PM
lads. lads, lads, Frankie will be Coach , not manager, and by all accounts he is a very good coach, level 2 I believe, so let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone, on a coaching front
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 26, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
Listen Ethan before you jump off on the wrong track.
I wasn't slating Fd's coaching ability. I just enjoyed John Joe's statement:

I know Frankie right and well  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 01:34:58 PM
wasnt getting off on any track, just making sure nobody else did, thats all
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 26, 2007, 01:48:20 PM
Whoops.......

Aw f**k it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: becks on January 28, 2007, 02:22:38 PM
word on the street is that ahoghill have received 5 transfer requests from the logan brothers,  paddy, martin, barney, terry cant mind the other ones name.  They are ment to be goin to ballymena.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 29, 2007, 09:34:02 AM
PG1 ultra's??

Are you f**king kiddin me?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 29, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
can anyone confirm league start dates. i heard lower divisions start 10th march then div 1 and div 2 start 15th april.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 29, 2007, 03:21:45 PM
Naomh Gall Poker Night
No limit Texas Hold'em
Naomh Gall Clubhouse
Saturday 3rd February at 7:30pm (reg 7:15pm)
£10 Entry. No tickets needed just pay at the door.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 30, 2007, 10:46:22 AM
just heard that all football divisions except div 1, start on the 18th march.  they'll b a few handovers that day!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 30, 2007, 01:17:21 PM
tell Gerry     :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 30, 2007, 01:17:35 PM
no, the shinners said i was ok!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 30, 2007, 01:22:23 PM
Anyone hear any news on the glenravel situation??
Rumour has it Delargy got a better offer somewhere else in Derry.......

Did you here John Joe? You knowin him rite and well and all  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 30, 2007, 02:21:27 PM
Shady, funny enuf I was talking to the man imself during lunchbreak, and he says something about no smoke without fire, and a still waiting on the fat lady to sing. Didnt make any sense out of it at all. Suppose all will be revealed in due course.

Would that be him and Kevin Madden locking horns next year then?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 30, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
I heard Frankie was offered the Swatragh Job but turned it down
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 30, 2007, 02:33:28 PM
johnjoe
whos kevin madden taking next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 30, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
Kevin Madden is coaching at Glenullin , not sure if he is manager or not
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 30, 2007, 02:42:18 PM
Sounds interesting JJ. He certainly gets about frankie.

never heard about swa job ethan. This one was further north.
Not sure whether they are top division or not JJ,. to say who he'l b getin horny with  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 30, 2007, 03:13:57 PM
I`d say they are top division all-right Shady!!

Baker the manager at Glenullin, Kevin is trainer and coach. Good guy, wish him well. Almost choked there tho.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 31, 2007, 11:50:50 AM
Well John Joe, has your mate Frankie D taken up the reins in Co Derry or not. go ahead you can tell us, your among friends here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
Top division north derry side...

Banagher are there and it's obviously not Glenullin.

Dungiven just got relegated as far as I know.

Must be banagher then...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 31, 2007, 07:07:03 PM
just under 5 hours of the transfer window left frankie D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 31, 2007, 07:21:02 PM
is the window not open til end of February  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 01, 2007, 12:42:47 AM
The Antrim GAA one is - but FD's style is more akin to the Premiership whos'e window is now closed!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 01, 2007, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
Top division north derry side...

Banagher are there and it's obviously not Glenullin.

Dungiven just got relegated as far as I know.

Must be banagher then...

yep your right, he thinks he can win them a championship :D
maybe he was offered more money! money talks!!
Title: NFL Antrim v Wicklow
Post by: aontroim on February 01, 2007, 10:55:01 AM
Team for Sunday's game - wont be a guaranteed 2 pts this year - watched Wicklow v Dubs in O'Byrne last weekend and they were much improved under Micko - hopefully though we can start with a win.

1. Sean McGreevey - Naomh Pól
2. Christopher Lynch - Lámh Dhearg
3. Colin Brady - Naomh Gall
4. Conor McGoldrick - Naomh Treasa
5. Sean McVeigh - Naoimh Uile
6. Gavin Bell - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
7. Tony Scullion - Clann na hÉireann
8. Joseph Quinn - Naomh Pól
9. Michael McCann - Clann na hÉireann
10. Paul Doherty - Naomh Mhuire (Rasharkin)
11. Kevin Niblock - Naomh Gall
12. Aodhan Gallagher - Naomh Gall
13. Ciaran Close (Capt) - Clann na hÉireann
14. Kevin Brady - Naomh Ergnat
15. Patrick Cunningham - Lámh Dhearg
16. John Finnucane - Lámh Dhearg
17. Darrel Martin - Chiceann An Chreaigin
18. Paul Close - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
19. Patrick Logan - Naomh Mhuire (Ahoghill)
20. Oistin McAteer - Na Cicéaimí
21. Laurence Higgins - Naomh Pól
22. James Loughrey - Naomh Bríd
23. Niall Ward - Naomh Pól
24. Michael Rea - Naomh Seosamh
25. Eoin Roe O'Neill - Clann na hÉireann
26. Andrew McClean - Naomh Gall
27. Damien Gault - Naomh Eanna
28. Conor McGourty - Naomh Gall

(Team from from antrim.gaa.ie)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 01, 2007, 11:54:23 AM
Good looking team there for Sunday. Best of luck to Jody and the boys.





Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 11:58:13 AM
Can someone shed any light on the rumour that Jeffery Donalson MP is an ardent follower of St Brigids GAC (Belfast), apparently he has attended all there chamionship matches last season, if it is correct , then he has changed his tune, for it was not that long ago he was referring to the GAA "as the IRA at play"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on February 01, 2007, 12:12:01 PM
Not really a surprise Ethan. In his youth young Jeffery hurled and played football for An Riocht in Kilkeel. When he got into politics he quit. Apparently he was fairly handy at but codes when younger but didn't like the physical side as he got older.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 12:29:28 PM
jasus I never new it, fair play to the wee bastard - and does he follow St Brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on February 01, 2007, 12:36:02 PM
He wouldn't miss a match!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on February 01, 2007, 12:42:15 PM
Is this true?  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 01, 2007, 01:21:47 PM
hes taking some hand out of ya :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Blacksheep on February 01, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
 :D :D :D
Excellent!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2007, 02:16:01 PM
Chris Lynch at corner back...

Sure he's an attacking half back or a defensive half forward!!

Cunningham and Close in one team are going to be hard to accomodate - maybe would make the stature of the full forward line a bit too small...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 01, 2007, 02:24:21 PM
the only similarities between Cunningham and Close is that they are lefty free-takers. Close has more of a buzz about his play than Cunningham who i reckon would be a wilier oponnent.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 03:19:36 PM
do you reckon there will be any diving on Sunday? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 01, 2007, 03:25:38 PM
milltown, i hear your good friend Culbert (or Michael as you call him!!) is taking a team a brave bit from home this year!!

must be quare travelling expenses  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
Same old story, Joe Quinn at Midfield, I feel sorry for the full forwards with the supply this man gives they will be feeding off scraps
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 04:24:16 PM
for the love of the game ::)

33p a mile ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 02, 2007, 08:52:13 AM
Don't think it would matter what team we put out, Wicklow will be on a high with Micko's first league game in charge.  Genuinely can't see us coming close to getting anything out of this game, unfortunately.

Still number 28 is an interesting development.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
always the optimist eh, thats coming from a person that calls themself saffron sam2!!

sure isnt it jody's first league game in charge aswell.
whats the point of the team going if we're a cert to get beat.
with that type of mentality we might as well just pull out of the ulster championship and concentrate on the tommy murphy!ffs. >:(

i do agree that no.28 among others are interesting inclusions!
cj, loughrey and the like. i wud have thought a couple more would have been on the panel, but i suppose u can only pick 28.
thought tomas mccann, justy crozier, benny hasson mite have got in there too, but their day will come.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 11:10:44 AM
Just a few points - IMO
Sean McGreevey (Good Keeper) is a step back, Finucane just have been given the 1 jesrey
Sean McV & Tony Scul all good enough Club players but they are not Halfbacks at county level, Sculiion may do ok in the corner , his delivery is poor, Bell may do OK at  wing half but not at CHB
Joe Quinn - wont even comment
Paul Doc - Big Lad, doesnt use his strength enough - out of his depth at this level
A Gallagher - quick & Strong but lacks enough football skill

These are not personal attcks on these fellas , just points about football

PS I know this is only Jody's 1st League game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 02, 2007, 11:47:35 AM
Sean McGreevey is probably still the best keeper in Ulster so should be in goals well ahead of Finnucane.

Who would you replace Scullion or McVeigh with?

Who would you have on ahead of Paul Doc?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on February 02, 2007, 11:51:13 AM
my biggest concern about the team is the two corner-backs. both have never played there at club never mind county level! surely gault and ward are better options here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 11:10:44 AM
Just a few points - IMO
Sean McGreevey (Good Keeper) is a step back, Finucane just have been given the 1 jesrey
Sean McV & Tony Scul all good enough Club players but they are not Halfbacks at county level, Sculiion may do ok in the corner , his delivery is poor, Bell may do OK at  wing half but not at CHB
Joe Quinn - wont even comment
Paul Doc - Big Lad, doesnt use his strength enough - out of his depth at this level
A Gallagher - quick & Strong but lacks enough football skill

These are not personal attcks on these fellas , just points about football

PS I know this is only Jody's 1st League game

yes double e that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but i wud have to disagree.
all those players will start against derry, apart from sean mcviegh and he wont be far away.

i wud be more worried about the cornerbacks.
big pd will maybe end up in the half back line because in my opinion magill will come into the forward line and the defence needs tightening up.
mcveigh will end up playing corner or full back along with colin brady and another.

but thats just my opinion.
i didnt think a bellaghy man wud take such interest in antrim or are you one of those imports that now hail from the casements club portglenyin.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 11:55:00 AM
Niall Ward for McVeigh
Paddy Logan for Paul Doc
Switch Lynch & Sculiion


Slim are you in full agreement with Jody's selection  
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 02, 2007, 12:04:38 PM
My Antrim team for Sunday would be
1. McGreevey
2. Brady
3. McClean
4. Ward
5. McVeigh
6. Bell
7. Loughrey
8. McCann
9. Gallagher
10. Brady
11. Logan
12. Doc
13. Close
14. Niblock
15. Cunningham
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 02, 2007, 01:14:14 PM
Is it an overnight to Wicklow? Beller and CJ for roommates!

The excitement is starting to build. see Wicklow are hot favourites to win the match (4/6), but Antrim are well capable of getting a result. Since when did Antrim ever fear Wicklow. Go out and tank them! Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 01:22:54 PM
Culchie, I have always had an interest in Antrim Football, have I family contentions there, but this  bellaghy - portglenone this seems to bother you, why jealously maybe  :P, I heard last year the Oran O'Kane was seeking a transfer to Portglenone from Rasharkin, and before you ask me how I know Oran, he is married to a Bellaghy Girl
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 01:32:55 PM
Culchie, I have always had an interest in Antrim Football, have I family contentions there,
???

are you asking me or telling!!

dont always believe what you hear double e!!




Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 01:35:26 PM
sorry - I have Family connections here,
aye Big Oran didnt move, rumour has it Portglenone wouldnt take him :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 02, 2007, 01:50:39 PM
I understand that Oran O'Kane has been approached by bellaghy to get involved in coaching some of there underage teams. He is living in Ballynease and as you say married to a bellaghy girl.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
aye max big O has been involved with our minors over the last couple of years and he is taking the u16s this year.

heard something bout that bellaghy wanted him to help out, but sure what could you's boys learn from an antrim man,
after all you's are a gaa hotbed! :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
Cluchie, look on it as bellaghy improving Oran's coaching abilities free of charge and then Oran will inturn pass his newfound knowledge unto the rest of Rasharkin, sorta bellaghy doing yous a favour really  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 02:55:01 PM
your not bad craic double e!! ;D

do those family connections extend to maximus marillius or do all bellaghy people JUST have the same mindset
as that as tina turner wud say are SIMPLY THE BEST. :D ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 03:17:09 PM
Nah, Culchy , I can safely say max and me are not related, but our titles are there for all to see, so we must be doing something right  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on February 04, 2007, 11:52:22 PM
what all this talk about creggan and mickey moran calling an urgent meeting last week?  then on the cavan hoganstand website, there is talk of him being connected to the mullahoran job??  think i even heard his name being connected to glack in derry.  things must b hitting a rocky patch already!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 09:15:26 AM
''paddy logan instead of paul doc''  :D ;D

thats the best I've heard in a long time!!

how did kickhams do in the Ulster league opener? its a bit of a farce that oul league- good for competitive friendlies though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 05, 2007, 09:46:28 AM
Bad result yesterday lads, any reports? I would have thought the team we sent down would have been more than capable of taking something out of the game. Leaves us with a mountain to climb now with meath, cavan, wexford and sligo all to come. Suppose we can just hope everyone takes points off each other in this league and we can grind out a few wins.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 10:47:42 AM
Slim "know it all" shady
U agreed with that team selection, conceeded 4 goals,
Slim "manager of the year" Shady  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
show me where i said i agreed with it Max? i mean Ethan.

and if you keep the insults coming Ethan then people are going to hear a thing or two about our Maximus  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 10:59:23 AM
what the f**k are you MAXing about, Slim he has really got into your head, Why do you think I am Max, get a life  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:01:43 AM
you never showed me where i ''agreed'' with the selection?

and the Max thing, well, i'll say nothing more about it and just await another insult.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 11:07:01 AM
Ok Slim if you didnt agree with the team selection , what changes would you have made

As for insults  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:10:59 AM
would have had McLean on and Christy Lynch off out of that back line.

Would have played Paul Doc at 6.

Would have had Niblock on the bench and Justin Crozier at 11.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 05, 2007, 11:15:20 AM
was good to see the younger lads gettin their chance as some of the older boys clearly werent up to it yesterday.

wud not have mcgoldrick in the team and as i said before no harm to christy lynch he isnt a cornerback.

i agree with slim put paul doc at chb move beller to wingback and mcveigh in the corner.

slim what about geek, did he not bother this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 11:15:55 AM
Slim

and kept Mcveigh & Scullion at 5 & 7  (both were replaced) and Joe at 8,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:20:39 AM
I'd have McVeigh off, Scullion was carrying an injury into the game. Bell out of CHB.

Antrim are missing a workhorse in the middle of the park, big Marty could do a job there if he was up. As could Tony Convery or even Painter Marron.

Geek isnt up this year, he scored a wonder point for us on Saturday from the sideline! he was also named Captain for the year, Captain Smurf.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 11:52:17 AM
I dont rate Scullion as a HB , could do a job in the corner, he is very quick and strong in the tackle
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:52:59 AM
Did you see the County Final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 11:59:56 AM
Slim...you think that ethen and maximus are the same...take a look at the amount of posts each have...if they are one and the same...he must have nothing to do...if you say you know who he is...check his job...I dont think 1200 posts from November is possible.

By the way another crap Antrim performance. Did the captain lead by example :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 12:01:31 PM
Did you see the County Final?

Yip, saw him go to ground very easliy trying to win easy frees, which he managed to do, he went down once holding his head, tryring to a player booked when actually it was Eddie Quinn that give him a we dig in the rips by mistake.

Why I dont rate Tony at Half Back is because I think is final ball to the forwards is suspect, IMO a half Back needs to play quality ball into the forwards, Tony doesnt do this consistently,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 12:03:12 PM
The same player that won Man of the Match that day? No?

He went full pelt from start to finish right through extra time and set up a lot of scores bombing up the right wing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 12:13:28 PM
hoganstand

QuoteWicklow 4-9
Antrim 1-10

The first half was nip and tuck with Wicklow gaining an advantage with a Keith Byrne goal at the end of the first quarter. Antrim responded well and with points from Paddy Cunningham trailed by just 0-6 to 1-5 at the break.

On the restart came an avalanche of Wicklow goals as Tommy Gill fired a powerful shot to the net and from the kick out the home side regained possession and Gill was on hand again to fist home his second major.

Antrim were shell-shocked at this stage and things got worse for the Glensmen when Jack Dalton fired home Wicklow's fourth goal to put his side 4-7 to 0-7 ahead.

In the final 25 minutes the home side only managed two points but Antrim managed only slightly better with Chris Lynch grabbing a late goal in reply.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on February 05, 2007, 12:16:09 PM
no doubt tony scullion is a good half back at club level with his pace and power. slim ur correct about what u say about the county final.
but county level is different. its about the speed and accuracy of the ball into the inside forwards. too many times scullion puts the head down and runs, by the time he looks to make the pass the forwards have made their run and the defence is organised.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 12:52:42 PM
So yer going to take us in the first round... :D :D :D

A real bad weekend for Jody..the Abbey and then 4:9
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
always the optimist eh, thats coming from a person that calls themself saffron sam2!!

sure isnt it jody's first league game in charge aswell.
whats the point of the team going if we're a cert to get beat.
with that type of mentality we might as well just pull out of the ulster championship and concentrate on the tommy murphy!ffs. >:(

i do agree that no.28 among others are interesting inclusions!
cj, loughrey and the like. i wud have thought a couple more would have been on the panel, but i suppose u can only pick 28.
thought tomas mccann, justy crozier, benny hasson mite have got in there too, but their day will come.
Unfortunately my pessimism proved to be well founded.  A lucky one point victory at Casement last year over the same opposition was the first clue. Add that to the fact that the game was an away match and that any extra impetus from Mick O'Dwyer is likely to be much more than any extra impetus from Jody Gormley meant we were always long odds to win this game.  Nothing wrong with my attitude, simply a realisation of exactly where Antrim stand at the minute.

Still there were positives, the team that finished appears much stronger than the one that started. We need to concentrate on trying to make it as difficult as possible for away teams to getanything at Casement, otherwise it's division 4 for us.

This result and the Derry result do not change my opinion about the championship match in any way at all.  I would be confident that the saffrons will be a lot closer to Derry than they were to Wicklow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 02:55:09 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 02:59:13 PM
why did they not stay over, has the county board tightened the purse strings
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2007, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 02:55:09 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.
Agreed, feckin stupid.  Still the county board saved a handy few quid there. Seems like they want to save a few quid on a round of the qualifiers next year too. McGarry will be happy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:07:38 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2007, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 02:55:09 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.
Agreed, feckin stupid.  Still the county board saved a handy few quid there. Seems like they want to save a few quid on a round of the qualifiers next year too. McGarry will be happy.

total twat.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 03:16:37 PM
Rubberman :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 05, 2007, 03:17:45 PM
Wot a joke. No other county team would travel 3-4 hours on the morning of a match. It puts our boys on the back foot from the start. On a playing issue, I know everyone says we have the players, but do we really? Everyone seems to have pulled together under Jody & he's had his pick of most players in the county yet we are still getting well turned over by second rate teams. Alot of our players have ability & show well in club competitions but inter county is another step up & i'm not sure alot of our players are up to it, especially in the physical stakes which is a big part of county football nowadays.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 05, 2007, 03:22:09 PM
QuoteQuote from: saffron sam2 on Today at 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on Today at 02:55:09 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.

Agreed, feckin stupid.  Still the county board saved a handy few quid there. Seems like they want to save a few quid on a round of the qualifiers next year too. McGarry will be happy.


total twat.

I think i'd have to come to his defence on this! Victor Meldrew would be the one (surprisingly) whose voice seems to be heard a lot more than it should on matters like this - county treasurer isn't the one booking buses / accomodation for players nor deciding if they should stay overnight or not - arrangements will all have come through the CAM and county exec will have made the call on overnight stay etc - McGarry will be more concerned with trying to find a new sponsor at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:24:04 PM
even if he had booked the panel and their wives into the Hilton for the week before the game he'd still be a twat.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
Slim I sense you are somewhat aggitated by the Rubberman? did he run over your pet dog, steal yer women? whats the sceal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
Slim I sense you are somewhat aggitated by the Rubberman? did he run over your pet dog, steal yer women? whats the sceal

:D ;D

christ on a bike!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on February 05, 2007, 03:40:15 PM
It may have been the players choice to travel down on the Sunday morning. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 03:50:43 PM
Would that suggest that the players still have not totally bought into club Antrim...and see this overnight stay, which is part of quality preparartion, as a waste of their  time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 05, 2007, 04:05:21 PM
If it was the players choice it is completely the wrong one. What is the point in training 3-4 nights a week, doing weights programmes, watching what you eat etc all in a professional manner if your gonna screw all that up on a sunday when it really mattered by being squeezed into a bus all morning. The management should have insisted on staying the night before and outlined the reasons for this. Players with a professional and committed attitude would tow the line even if they preferred their own bed on a sat nite
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on February 07, 2007, 08:26:33 AM
With Frank Delargy no longer interested in training us, we have appointed Paul mc keown as our new trainer for the year (with Barney reid still as manager). Paul is an ex St Galls player, lives in Crumlin and has taken both Aldergrove and Glenavy over the past few years. both clubs have differing opinions of him, anybody else any idea of what he's like?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 08:56:17 AM
never heard of him. but by all accounts he got both teams relegated.

suits you sir!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 09:49:17 AM
Paul is a good, motivator, plenty of years experience and has plenty of championship wins behind him and has played county at all age groups, played against Cargin up at Rasharkin in that great game, when we won 5.  4, not sure of the team Slim :P. Paul scored 2 that day.

A manager will come in with new ideas and tactics but if the team don't put the same effort in then it's doomed from the start. I wish him all the best
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 09:59:23 AM
aye, ok thenm, i was wrong. He'll be great- you'll be championship contenders in 2 years time!

He relegated 2 teams in 2 years- not a good record, ffs my management record reads better!!!!  :D

and just because he's been a successful player doesnt mean he'll ever cut it as a manager.
Title: Re. Glenravel's new trainer
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 07, 2007, 10:21:02 AM
Random song lyrics.

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

He's my brother
He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 11:00:43 AM
this may be a silly question Sam but.... what the f**k?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 11:02:13 AM
Well, up on till last year Slim he won as much as your previous managers!!!! And they were the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 07, 2007, 11:11:58 AM
What's the chances of picking up a result on sat evenin under lights against a mediocre meath team? Should Jody play the same team that started or finished the last match?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 11:18:37 AM
who did he manage to a Senior Championship??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 07, 2007, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 09:49:17 AM
Paul is a good, motivator, plenty of years experience and has plenty of championship wins behind him and has played county at all age groups, played against Cargin up at Rasharkin in that great game, when we won 5.  4, not sure of the team Slim :P. Paul scored 2 that day.


Must have been a cracker, I real spectacle, 5 pts to 4 pts, catch yourself on,  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 12:36:21 PM
it's always good beating Cargin, and vice versa
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 07, 2007, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 09:49:17 AM
Paul is a good, motivator, plenty of years experience and has plenty of championship wins behind him and has played county at all age groups, played against Cargin up at Rasharkin in that great game, when we won 5.  4, not sure of the team Slim :P. Paul scored 2 that day.

A manager will come in with new ideas and tactics but if the team don't put the same effort in then it's doomed from the start. I wish him all the best

They tell me, well my source Butterknife tells me, that the man in question was unsuccessful with his application for the St. Gall's under-14 managerial position. The Con Magee's are in safe hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 02:20:59 PM
your well informed (under 16 though), Sam internal polictics. Paul will be taking an under 15 development squad at the club, then take the team next year. under age teams (at naomh gall) have always had plenty of people looking to look after them.

and besides Glenravel could not get any worse. whats your club Sam?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 02:35:02 PM
by f**k, i thought Sam was taking the piss!!

Correct though, Glenravel cant get much worse but putting someone clueless in charge may be the final nail in the clubs coffin!!

ffs, sure they even let me take our u16 team the last 2 years  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 09, 2007, 10:46:20 AM
anyone for the turning on of the lights ceremony!!

we will do well to get something out of the match, interesting to see what team is picked.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 09, 2007, 10:52:09 AM
i'll be there culchy, you can buy me a pint before (or after it) the game, i allow you.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on February 09, 2007, 10:59:14 AM
definitely going. after all the fuss about the lights this is one occasion i wont miss. and i hear there will be a game on as well
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
has the antrim team V meath been announced
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 09, 2007, 11:14:41 AM
wont be announced til just before throw-in, apparently!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 11:17:15 AM
very cloak and dagger stuff, are they worried that they might give meath an advantage by declaring the team early  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 09, 2007, 11:25:24 AM
typical toome man slim, tight as bedamned. :D

who do you's play in ulster league this weekend?
was talking to a fella from the screen, he says they'll takes you's no bother when yous meet, i begged to differ with him!
he thought you's wud be crap without ur county men.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 09, 2007, 12:02:54 PM
they may well beat us, we arent taking the competition seriously at all, the management are using it to play a lot of boys they didnt see much of last year and other lads who they have never seen at senior level. to be honest, its only glorified friendly matches, thats all.

we play Derrylaughan on Sunday 1pm in Toome.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
Slim , have Cargin found these matches worhwhile, I know yous are taking them as friendly's and blooding new talent, that fine , but doesnt it make for a long season for the regular 1st teamers, will it not take its toll on them later in the season, it seemed to do that wilth creggan last year, started off flying then died away mid season
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 09, 2007, 12:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
Slim , have Cargin found these matches worhwhile, I know yous are taking them as friendly's and blooding new talent, that fine , but doesnt it make for a long season for the regular 1st teamers, will it not take its toll on them later in the season, it seemed to do that wilth creggan last year, started off flying then died away mid season

:D ;D

We've only played one game and it wont be taking its toll, we're training slowly. Dont worry about us Ethan (Max), we'll be grand come mid season.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 12:42:35 PM
Slim , you'll have to get over this max thing, I bet "you think about him 24/7" to quote The Real Slim Shady,

He must have f**ked up yer head, maybe its the loughshore air
Title: Proposed Fixtures for League and Championship
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 01:59:11 PM
Have just been send a copy of the CCC proposals for 2007.

Most rumblings on here look to be true enough with hurling leagues starting on Wednesday 18th April - wed evenings for the first SEVEN! games then switching to Sundays in July.

Div 4,5,6 football starts fairly early (11th March) and Div 1,2,3 starts 15th April

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 09, 2007, 02:14:41 PM
Aontroim, does it give provisional dates on the CCC proposals for senior club football championship games first and second rounds?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 09, 2007, 02:22:10 PM
I've removed hurling from the title of this thread for obvious reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:32:29 PM
Quote from: CoolHandLuke on February 09, 2007, 02:14:41 PM
Aontroim, does it give provisional dates on the CCC proposals for senior club football championship games first and second rounds?

From what i can decipher it looks like;

SFC

1st Rnd - 29th July
2nd Rnd - 12th August

IFC/JFC

1st Rnd - 21/22th July
2nd Rnd - 1st August (IFC only)
3rd rnd - 18th August

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on February 09, 2007, 02:35:35 PM
any dates for the hurling championships? or is that asking too much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:51:49 PM
will post on the Antrim Hurling thread just to keep it right...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 09, 2007, 02:57:11 PM
Cheers Aontroim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shaws road on February 09, 2007, 10:27:23 PM
i hear tonight that the two mc gourty cj and kevin and sean keely have agreed to go to chicago for the summer ina $20,000 move any truth in this from people in boston and they paln to have karl stewart and colm bardy before the summer is out???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 09, 2007, 10:34:17 PM
Shaws Rd, it has probably been put out by the Kevin Mc Gourty publicity machine. If being a top inter county footballer was measured in how good you were in going crying to your favourite little rag (The Irish News) he would be the best of them all. Mc gourty has to realise you have to do it on the pitch, for me he is the most over rated player in Antrim, when has he ever performed for the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 09, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
I take it that's when Antrim exit the Championship?

Gonna head down to Casement tomorrow night - looking forward to seeing this Meath team in action. Haven't seen them in the flesh since 2002 v Donegal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shaws road on February 10, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
shaws road  very good reply but even like i dont like him mc gourty is the only player in antrim history and will ever be probabaly to play in five all irelands in two years and from what i hear in st galls its massive , mc gourty v kelly only one win winnner with me kelly but according to last sundays paper the irsh times o dywer calls mc gourty as good as egan the county forard for kerry during the golden years surely not micko  he is good but not that good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on February 10, 2007, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: shaws road on February 10, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
mc gourty as good as egan the county forard for kerry during the golden years surely not micko  he is good but not that good

Ah come on now. a very good club footballer but an average county footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 12:02:16 PM
Uladh....well said, he has never done it for A ntrim, he is very fit which is a big asset at club level but at inter county level everyone is super fit. He seems more interested in speaking to the papers and raising his profile through interviews rather than raising it on the pitch. In fairness he will love the fact that he is being discussed on this message board, he should take a leaf out of CJ's book and let his football do the talking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theoriginalmup on February 10, 2007, 06:15:39 PM
Nice to hear lads talkin about goin to America in Febuary ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on February 10, 2007, 07:40:18 PM
You clubs in the Belfast are all a shower of pricks - just heard the Ulster Colleges asked nearly all clubs in Belfast to use their ground for a MacRory semi final between St. Colman's Newry and St. Pat's Maghera yet every one of them said no.  Why might this be?  I mean you aren't even using the fields yourselves.  You don't even have football on most of them so why not let someone play on your fields? 
Maybe, and I hate saying this, your demonstrations are more important than football.  You've let us all down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 08:26:16 PM
Latest Score Antrim 0-5 Meath 1-7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 08:51:08 PM
Latest Score Antrim 0-9 Meath 2-11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: onlyonefut on February 10, 2007, 09:20:50 PM
Full Time Antrim 1-11 Meath 2-11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2007, 09:33:48 PM
how did antrim come back--when i left it was 2-10 to 0-6
i hate that--now gormley will be goin on like a lucky goal just beat antrim and "only a kick of the ball in it at the end"
this may be technically true but in reality the gulf was at least 10 points
Did meath give up and antrim get lucky or did they really put it up to Meath?

In my opinion Antrim were like wee lost boys and were shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: down22 on February 10, 2007, 09:44:10 PM
A bit of both - meath let things slip a little, antrim were a (little) bit better. Antrim goal came very late. But Antrim never really looked liked coming back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 09:53:12 PM
How much did the thiefs charge in to it? I was all geared up to go then thought it will be pure shite and didnt bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caitlin on February 10, 2007, 09:55:24 PM
It was 7 quid in. Antrim were second best. I have an interest on the team and Gormley seems to be committed but this was a lot worse than Wicklow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 10:04:51 PM
I think i made the right decision then, did young Mc Gourty come on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 01:49:34 PM
Aye, young CJ made his official inter county senior debut. The announcer got his name wrong, the suit musnt have known what he looks like. Mc Gort got a good dig in the mouth from one of the Meath players, probably for slabbering about his mother or girlfriend. Thought Beller had put that nonsense out of him a few weeks back!The person manning the scoreboard made a c**k up, and the national anthem failed half way thru.

From a football perspective, it was a hard game to analyize. Meath looked bigger, better, stronger, sharper and played better football.

Antrim as usual took 25 passes to get across the half way line, and were made to work hard for every score. How hard can it be to stick a hightower in the edge of the square and put one or two in to test them. For me, Joe Quinn would be ideal in there, with Close or Cunningham playing off him. Or even Paddy Logan. Better still Benny Hasson.

At the end of the day, for all that, Meath won with two very soft goals. Finucane looked completely blinded for the first one, and their second looked a definite Square ball. Throw in the fact that the average age of the team is very young, and I wouldnt be over critical. Still think we are starting to produce a lot better type players  than ten-fifteen years ago and we must be patient.

As the eternal optimist, we can but hope, but can we really cut it at c`ship level without the following players?

Convery, Kelly, Magill, Micko, O`Boyle, Mc Gourty, and big Eddie Quinn is still the best midfielder in the county, and has been for ten years.

Every county needs their best players out, and for a variety of reasons we arnt gettin some of ours. If most of those seven were in there fighting it out for places, then think of the quality Jody would have to pick from.

Without them, well, its just going to take a bit longer!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 12, 2007, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 01:49:34 PM
Aye, young CJ made his official inter county senior debut. The announcer got his name wrong, the suit musnt have known what he looks like. Mc Gort got a good dig in the mouth from one of the Meath players, probably for slabbering about his mother or girlfriend. Thought Beller had put that nonsense out of him a few weeks back!The person manning the scoreboard made a c**k up, and the national anthem failed half way thru.

From a football perspective, it was a hard game to analyize. Meath looked bigger, better, stronger, sharper and played better football.

Antrim as usual took 25 passes to get across the half way line, and were made to work hard for every score. How hard can it be to stick a hightower in the edge of the square and put one or two in to test them. For me, Joe Quinn would be ideal in there, with Close or Cunningham playing off him. Or even Paddy Logan. Better still Benny Hasson.

At the end of the day, for all that, Meath won with two very soft goals. Finucane looked completely blinded for the first one, and their second looked a definite Square ball. Throw in the fact that the average age of the team is very young, and I wouldnt be over critical. Still think we are starting to produce a lot better type players  than ten-fifteen years ago and we must be patient.

As the eternal optimist, we can but hope, but can we really cut it at c`ship level without the following players?

Convery, Kelly, Magill, Micko, O`Boyle, Mc Gourty, and big Eddie Quinn is still the best midfielder in the county, and has been for ten years.

Every county needs their best players out, and for a variety of reasons we arnt gettin some of ours. If most of those seven were in there fighting it out for places, then think of the quality Jody would have to pick from.

Without them, well, its just going to take a bit longer!




Better than Mick McCann? I'd disagree with you on that score, having played with both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on February 12, 2007, 02:03:45 PM
Johnjoe....What is this i have missed about Bell & Mc Gourty,i have seen a few posts alluding to something,did he give him a slap or what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 02:46:23 PM
"allegedly" and "apparently" it was more than one slap. St Marys Uni versus Antrim a few weeks ago in a pre season. Just about as good an education as the peerless CJ will ever get. Apparently the verbals is part of his reportoire, with mothers and girlfriends tending to feature often. Either very brave or very stupid, I mean FFS would you want to talk to Beller like that. Either way, Bell did him a good turn in the long run!

Slim, big Eddie`s performance against St Galls was the highlight of last summer. I know he cant/wont play for Antrim, but he would be my full forward as a target man. Ok, Mick Mc Cann`s the man from the banks of the Bann now, but my post referred to the last ten years! Maybe some of the other Mc Canns coming through might be the business for the next ten. I`m a big fan of Mick`s, but he needs some more consistency in his game. Was AWOL Sat night!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 12, 2007, 02:55:00 PM
johnjoe, your words were- big eddie quinn is still the best midfielder in the county.

You never mentioned full forward either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 12, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
The Mc Gourty boys certainly like to talk, i would leave Ciaran exempt from this, hes a good lad. I have had to give motor mouth Kevin a few slaps down through the years for his mouthing on the hurling field. I was saying to the fella i was marking against St Galls that the Kevin boy was a terrible p***k and he said half his own team cant stick him......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 12, 2007, 03:01:21 PM
Quote from: Cloc Mor on February 10, 2007, 07:40:18 PM
You clubs in the Belfast are all a shower of pricks - just heard the Ulster Colleges asked nearly all clubs in Belfast to use their ground for a MacRory semi final between St. Colman's Newry and St. Pat's Maghera yet every one of them said no.  Why might this be?  I mean you aren't even using the fields yourselves.  You don't even have football on most of them so why not let someone play on your fields? 
Maybe, and I hate saying this, your demonstrations are more important than football.  You've let us all down.
You are what is commonly known as a w**ker.  If you could answer me a few questions of my own:
1.  Where was the St. Patrick's Armagh vs. St. Louis Kilkeel quarter final played the previous weekend?
2.  Why did Rossa play their Ulster Senior league match against Carrickmore at St. Mary's and not their home pitch?
3.  Is it likely that St. Gall's have changed their policy of making their pitch avaialble whenever possible for Ulster Colleges' matches since Christmas?
4.  Why do you feel the game had to be played in Belfast?  Surely there are any number of neutral pitches in the general Armagh / Dungannon / Cookstown / lough shore area that could equally well have been used.  Did those clubs let us all down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 04:33:40 PM
Point taken Slim. In fairness you are better placed to make that call. Both top players fair to say. Pity Big Eddie did`nt justify his potential at inter county level though. In his prime he would have been the first name on the team sheet!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 14, 2007, 09:33:52 AM
Gerard O'Boyle is now on the Senior County Panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 14, 2007, 01:57:34 PM
Thats big news Slim. Do you think he will really give it one big effort. Hope he does for the countys sake. By the way whats the crack with big Magill this weather. Do you know if he is still on the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 14, 2007, 02:07:53 PM
I remember writing something about mcgourty a few months ago on this site, about kevin mcgourty being so over-rated.  He has never done anything in ana ntrim jersey and maybe has played a few good games for st galls in antrim but has never shone in ulster club.  He is somehow at about 25 still playing with queens, and maybe scored a point at most in their 3 mckenna cup games.

Out of interest, what 5 all irelands has he played in two years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 14, 2007, 02:15:10 PM
7's, All Ireland Club Final, Sigerson? i have no idea really and far less do i care.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 14, 2007, 02:38:26 PM
I dont even know why we are discussing it but for what its worth, Mc Gourty is a media darling,Irish News in particular, always has a soundbite and has something to say. I dont think he is too over rated by people that actually know what they are talking about. A high media profile will certainly get you favourable reviews, good club footballer, average intercounty player. End of rant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 14, 2007, 02:45:21 PM
Thats the only 3 I could think of Slim.

Well put Slim!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 14, 2007, 02:52:03 PM
McGourty played in two Sigerson finals, but missed the one in Belfast because he fell out with James McCartan. That would certainly be number 4 and possibly why some think it is five finals.

Good to see O'Boyle back in the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 14, 2007, 04:31:25 PM
Closie is captain, he wasn't fit for the full game on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 14, 2007, 04:38:13 PM
he had tight calves....tho plyed well by all accounts when he came on.

slim your magic hands must hav worked  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 14, 2007, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 14, 2007, 02:52:03 PM
McGourty played in two Sigerson finals, but missed the one in Belfast because he fell out with James McCartan. That would certainly be number 4 and possibly why some think it is five finals.

Good to see O'Boyle back in the squad.

McGourty fall out with someone, never!!  :P
Title: Creagh Concrete
Post by: aontroim on February 14, 2007, 05:40:23 PM
Creagh Concrete new county senior sponsor - deal is supposed to be worth big money (compared to the £30k / year Bushmills gave)


From antrim.gaa.ie;

Antrim County Board has announced a new sponsorship deal covering the senior football and hurling teams with Creagh Concrete, one of Ireland's leading producers of concrete products, which is headquartered in Toomebridge, County Antrim. Under the deal, which was brokered in part by fundraising body Club Aontroma, Creagh Concrete will brand the senior team's playing gear and partner the county in other innovative ways for three years.

Antrim Chairman John McSparran welcomed the partnership.

"We are delighted to be have secured a long term partnership deal with Creagh Concrete which will help us to improve the fortunes of the county on and off the pitch. We have been looking for the right commercial partner over the last few months and it is important to us to work with a company with roots in and commitment to Antrim. There have been a number of important developments within the county in recent months including the installation of floodlights at Casement Park and the launch of our strategic review. This partnership with Creagh Concrete will help us to build on those and to work towards our long-term goal of real success with our teams.

In our preliminary discussions before concluding a sponsorship deal we found that we had an instant empathy with their work and team ethos, found them similarly ambitious to ourselves and we were particularly attracted by their well earned reputation on being a company that employs from and contributes handsomely to worthy causes from all sides of the community. Their degree of success over the last few years and their track record of innovation is something we very much aspire to as a county especially since they are a County Antrim based company and that makes everyone all the more determined to make this partnership a success for everyone involved. We believe that we can help them develop their markets in the south and elsewhere. We as a county want to be part of their continued success and we would like them to be part of ours."

Seamus McKeague, Managing Director of Creagh Concrete said the firm was pleased to be working with Antrim.

"We have been involved in helping out local clubs and other sports associations in smaller ways and we wanted to step up that support. We were impressed with the professionalism we encountered within the Antrim set up and we want to support the county's move towards a successful future. The principles which underpin the way we go about our work at Creagh Concrete – commitment to success and teamwork – are reflected in the way those behind the Antrim set up are approaching the significant task of helping Antrim achieve the success such a big county deserves. We hope that through our support we can help them achieve this success."

Club Aontroma Chairman Eamonn Prenter said the deal heralded a 'new beginning' in the way Antrim goes about its business. "We worked with the county Board on the sponsorship issue and the whole approach was thorough and professional. Club Aontroma has managed to initiate a degree of interest in Antrim's affairs, which until now was dormant. This important deal with Creagh Concrete is another major step forward.

NOTE

The sponsorship deal begins immediately and will run for the next three seasons.

Over the past twenty-five years, Creagh Concrete has grown to become one of Ireland's leading producers of concrete products for the construction, civil engineering and agricultural sectors.  For more information on Creagh Concrete contact Jacqui Burns on 028 796 51220 or visit www.creaghconcrete.com

For more information on this release contact Terry Cormican on 07742 949111
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 14, 2007, 06:34:02 PM
Gerard O'Boyle and Kevin McCourty are similar, they are both very talented club footballers who cause great problems for the oppostion week in week out, but neither of them have ever counted at county level, McCourty wants to play only on  his terms and Gerard has never really shown any interest in playing at that level,

Are these Antrim great white hopes,  :-[

I stand to be corrected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on February 14, 2007, 08:38:29 PM
Aye fair comment, i watched him last year when Antrim played Clare in qualifiers at Casement. It was their biggest game of the year and he huffed and puffed and gurned and yapped his way through the match, end product from him....... zilch. Now that was against the might of Clare......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 14, 2007, 09:07:23 PM
Kevin Brady disappointed me on Saturday. He was a fellow who always looked like he had potential to become a great Antrim player. However, he just seems to run, and run, and run, without little end product. Stylish but limited.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 08:45:21 AM
Creagh Concrete is in Derry!!!

Who are you to question Gerard O'Boyles talent Max? He hasnt played a full season at the County so nobody knows his credentials in that arena.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 15, 2007, 09:58:11 AM
listen Slim " parnoid" Shady, read my f**king post, I didnt question his talent, I questioned his committment

and for the record the owners of Creagh Concrete are from Antrim, ie Dunloy and they have a base there, typical know it all , know F**k all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 09:59:08 AM
mind your language Max. wouldnt want the world to know now would we...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 15, 2007, 10:02:57 AM
slim grow up, get a life or go out and play with the traffic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 10:23:41 AM
Now boys, take it easy.

Good to see Geard O'Boyle at long last join the county squad. We badly need another scoring forward.

On a negative note, many folk around Cargin reckon that when he was playing he was too individual, with everything going through him. He also had a tendency to take the option of going for a score every time, even when it was totally the wrong option.You may argue if he's scoring 8 or 9 points a game then who cares.

But the problem to me seemed not to b GOB but rather that Cargins game plan meant little or no responsibility on other other forwards, with the rersult that gerd was the only one scoring.

This isn't going to be a factor at county level, so I reckon he will do well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 10:42:05 AM
oh jesus christ, its Creggans version of Jeremy Kyle on to sort out everyone elses problems!! you seem to think you know a lot about what goes on around our club, when really you dont. i think your qualm with GOB & Cargin stems from the fact that Creggan got rid of him-possibly their best ever talent along with Bateson.

Hopefully he does well at the County but its more important to me that he does well with us than with Antrim, club before county-every time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 10:50:22 AM
My qualm with GOB?! What the f**k are you talking about?
"Good to see Geard O'Boyle at long last join the county squad. We badly need another scoring forward."

Oh here we go...its the old cargin cave-man mentality....you'd b the first p***k into to Croke Park if Antrim got to an All-Ireland QF/SF.

By the way...did u get "wee closey" a valentines card.....or are you gona GIVE HIM ONE at the week-end?!  :D  :D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: shady character on February 15, 2007, 10:23:41 AM
Now boys, take it easy.

Good to see Geard O'Boyle at long last join the county squad. We badly need another scoring forward.

On a negative note, many folk around Cargin reckon that when he was playing he was too individual, with everything going through him. He also had a tendency to take the option of going for a score every time, even when it was totally the wrong option.You may argue if he's scoring 8 or 9 points a game then who cares.

But the problem to me seemed not to b GOB but rather that Cargins game plan meant little or no responsibility on other other forwards, with the rersult that gerd was the only one scoring.

This isn't going to be a factor at county level, so I reckon he will do well.

i think this is self explanatory.

as for Antrim, of course I support them-why wouldnt I? Its my County as much as anyones. I just stated that i would put my club before my county any day of the week.

maybe you're in a bad mood cos that squad of 10 players Creggan sent up to the County has been correctly chopped down to one  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 11:03:58 AM
Yes Slim and then I went onto say:

"But the problem to me seemed not to b GOB but rather that Cargins game plan meant little or no responsibility on other other forwards, with the rersult that gerd was the only one scoring."

Not at all. I said at the time that we had only a couple of players county standard, and one of them isn't even on the panel.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 15, 2007, 11:07:26 AM
To make any sort of breakthrough, Antrim need ALL their top players out there doing the business at training and on match day. Great that Gerard O`Boyle has thrown his name into the hat. The county is a completely different set up to club football, and some thrive, and others struggle. Lets hope Gerard has the capacity to cope with it. Hopefully it will bring out the best in him.

I still have a problem that to be a real threat, we need all our top players out, and for me there are still to many better types not yet in. Who knows, maybe Jody has drawn a line, and they might not be "allowed" in at this stage. I`m talking Convery, Kelly, Mc Gourty after Sigerson, and Michael Herron who will now be in the shape of his life after a big Sigerson campaign with UUJ, where he has played every match this year. And of course my old friend Michael Magill, who on his day I rate maybe the best of them all.

There are 6 players that would make an enormous difference, and just think of the competition for places then.

There is serious talent in Antrim, and a better type of young player coming through than ever before. But we need to get them all out. Finally, todays launch of new county sponsor, led by Dick Mc Keague, is another massive breakthrough. Well done to CLUB AONTROMA and all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 11:10:48 AM
who? Dougan?

dont blow him up too much cos he reads this!!!  ;)

agreed re: McGourty & Herron.

Believe me, Magill is NOT your friend- the last time i spoke to him he wanted to rip off yer head and shit down yer throat! and he knows who you are, allegedly  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 11:21:07 AM
Yes it was dougan i was talking about. But the same boy needs to get his act together.
The fella has the potential, but the wrong attitude when it comes to training/lifestyle etc.

Is that you slim or is it Shinny?  ;D
Doubt magill wud have it in him to rip JJ's head off....He doesnt like the nitty gritty...
Thats supposed to be reason gormely axed him

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 15, 2007, 12:42:52 PM
Slim, if Magill has a problem with my comments that he is hugely talented, but needs a better work ethic, then there is nothing i can do to change that. Please refer to my comment that he is potentially the best of the lot.

I honestly didnt know that he had been dropped, but had noticed he was not on any recent teams or panels. I was wondering if he was hurt or something. As you seem to know all about him, maybe you will let us all know if/why he is no longer involved.

Was it a lazy attitude to training? And if so, is this MY fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: amninc on February 15, 2007, 01:44:06 PM
Magill was called on to the hurling set up and was quite right to leave - look at the results and team.  as he is a hurler and shady character saying he has not the balls - this coming from yourself a mouthing nobody - go do some work.  The two Dougans are well capable of being there and mark has been showing well for kickhams at the minute weither jody is calling back up i am unsure.  Chinese whispers is a very dangerous thing fellows.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GreenDay on February 15, 2007, 04:35:27 PM
any chance of talking about something worth reading??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 15, 2007, 08:22:23 PM
Lads i think this debate on Magill has maybe run its course. Allow me to be so bold and have the final say, when he was up with the hurlers a couple of years back his attendance at training was abysmal and when there were friendlies/training on a Sat/Sun morning lets just say he didnt always arrive with the clearest of heads to perform.....He was close to getting canned on a fair few occasions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 17, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
See the Rossa beat Glenavy 0-15--0-5 in the div2/3 playoffs--terrible waste of a year for Glenavy and Rossa get off the hook yet again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 20, 2007, 03:24:38 PM
ST BRIGIDS

Is it true that there is talk of ST BRIGIDS setting up a hurling team?

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 21, 2007, 02:00:56 PM
i see theres a Creggan gael in the Daily Mirror today!

Shady Character, have you seen it? meetin President Mary too, impressive!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 21, 2007, 03:05:50 PM
Didn't see it slim?? Has big Teddy been knighted?  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 21, 2007, 03:15:42 PM
no, Teddy has a few years on this guy.

Splash out the 35p and take a look- Daily Mirror, Page 10. Is he the only Creggan Gael meet the president?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 21, 2007, 03:28:09 PM
Is it one of our all-star seniors Slim??

Page 10.....I'll try a stab in dark...McCartney???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 22, 2007, 10:16:19 AM
Saw our very own Mr. Hefferrron in the mirror Slim  ;D

An embarrassment to all gaels around creggan.
Had to join the peelers to get a game. Enough said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 08:38:17 AM
why is he an embarrassment? sure it is you who should be embarrassed for outcasting him and his!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 23, 2007, 10:26:50 AM
Why should I or anyone around creggan be embarrassed Slim?  ???

This is a non-political page, but if you insist...
Peadar put his club and fellow gaels around him in a very uncomprimising position
at a time when the whole issue around policing was ultra sensitive. He made a decision
that made many people feel betrayed and very uncomfortable about the implications this could hold for
our club. He made a personal and in my opinion, an extemely selfish decision to pursue a career that as a
playing member of our club, could have caused a major split, and even led to random attacks on our club house from
some exteme factions.

Now that is why he is an embarrassment and that is why Creegan Clud had no choice other than to expel the fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 10:32:26 AM
but sure its his life, his job, is the fact that you are a waster in an office frowned upon round Creggan? And now that Gerry and the boys have signed up (which they were always going to do) is it acceptable for a Creggan man to join now?

Its the same police force as it was when he joined! Was another member of his family not given dogs abuse and subsequently forced to leave the club also? Unacceptable behaviour imho.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 10:55:10 AM
Slim why did Cargin not take Peadar, they took the other player kicked out of creggan namely G O'Boyle  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 10:57:13 AM
he never asked us, and yes, we did take arguably Creggans biggest ever talent off their hands as they refused to let him continue there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 23, 2007, 11:00:22 AM
"the fact that you are a waster in an office frowned upon round Creggan"  :D

Pot kettle balck Slim!!  :D What does that make you then?
A waster in Jordanstown or a waster in the Civil Service?!  :D

So as a die-hard Cargin member, what would you have advocated had one of your own members done the same at the time??
As a club there is little doubt Cargin would have done it differently. Would you then have lambasted them ? I think not.

His life, his job. He choose to make this his life and his job.
As for Paul, do not come on here and make unsubstantiated statements about why he left the club.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 11:05:35 AM
Slim , if PC Peadar had made a transfer request to Cargin would they have taken him ?

Would have been a sight to see PC Peader playing along side Martin Logan  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 11:06:43 AM
we all know why he left for all saints.

it is not a matter of how Cargin would have handled it, I know we are seen as your richer, professional neighbours and all that but it has nothing to do with us.  ;) :D

if it were a member of my club i wouldnt think any less of his lifestyle choices.

now, will you answer-

Has the views of Creggan Club & Committee changed since Sinn Fein signed up to policing?

If you joined the PSNI tomorrow would you get the boot? (Theoretically speaking of course as you're done so they wouldnt really care  :) )


Martin Logan has been retired for 5 years!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 11:21:02 AM
Martin Logan has been retired for 5 years!!

My God , doesnt time fly

It only seems like yesterday that was trying to kick the shite out young corner forwards,  :P :P

Awwww well thank god for small graces
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 23, 2007, 11:26:19 AM
Ok so you are a waster on spends all day on a computer too Slim.
Suppose your occupation is irrelevant!

Whilst I cannot speak for Creggan committee, I can safely say the decision wasn't largely based on political ideals but
rather on implications this would most definitely of had for our club.

When you make a decision Slim you weigh up the pros and cons. Enough said.
If I joined the PSNI tomorrow would I get the boot? Without giving you the satisfaction of taking this pathetic piece of bait,
I will answer your question. It takes time to initiate change. It took time for the GAA to banish rule 21 and 42, so as it has taken time and will take more time for nationalists/republicans to fully accept the PSNI.

If you joined the police tomorrow Slim, I reckon Cargin would boot you out....you'd try and join Creggan pleading with us as you do on this site how you have 2 championsip medals...only for big tony to tell you to piss off, not because of your occupation but rather because you are a chube!!  :D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 11:32:55 AM
so it is acceptable then? you failed to answer yet again.

what has changed since yer man joined? the name is the same, the uniforms the same?

Its time to step out of the dark ages, I'm also aware of a certain couple of members who turned their backs on SF recently  ;)



:D the day and hour i put a Creggan shirt on my back will be a dark one. Never gonna happen! I might be shite, but at least I'm shite at a successful club  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 23, 2007, 12:58:34 PM
I been reading the following thread fro a few weeks now and I feel its time to join into the discussion.
Point number one, I'm a Creggan lad, so Slim, don't shoot just let.
Firstly Slim, a bit of respect wouldn't go amiss. Well all know that you dislike Creggan, fair enough but keep it respectful. I always hated Cargin on the pitch, but enjoyed a drink with the lads after the matches and most Creggan lads' respect how the Cargin club is run. It's called respectful competition.  Although we are a smaller club, I believe that we can be proud of our achievements.
Secondly slim, I notice that you slag off Creggan's two championships as you have the same total. Does that mean St Johns and Bellaghy lads can slag Cargin off as being shite since they would have members who would have twice the championship medals as the Cargin club would have all together, I don't think so, do you?
Thirdly lads, (shady Char included), PH was not kicked out of the Creggan club as the club had no legal position to do so after the rule was abolished. I believe the club asked PH to sit out for a year since we were getting threats about playing matches from a number of clubs before the season started. PH didn't want to do this and I believe there was a split and legal proceedings were threatened. The threats were against our club so we were in a position that we couldn't guarantee U-10, U-12's safety aswell as the seniors. That was the position the club was in.

I believe that history will look kindly on PH, as the sooner we get as many taigs into the PSNI, the better for all of us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
jeesh, where do i start...

Quote from: CSC on February 23, 2007, 12:58:34 PM

I always hated Cargin on the pitch, but enjoyed a drink with the lads after the matches and most Creggan lads’ respect how the Cargin club is run.

Bollocks.

''I notice that you slag off Creggan's two championships as you have the same total''

show me where i slagged them?

''the club asked PH to sit out for a year since we were getting threats about playing matches from a number of clubs before the season started. PH didn't want to do this and I believe there was a split''

why should he sit out? because of threats made by people of your own club? (come on now, everyone knows these 'threats' weren't from elsewhere) It was those people who should have been booted out!

''I believe that history will look kindly on PH''

Correct.


''we were getting threats about playing matches from a number of clubs before the season started''

disgraceful lie right there, totally disgraceful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 01:56:06 PM
p.s.

does any of you dudes know when the Championship Draw is taking place? Most other counties have theirs done.

But then again, Antrim isnt most other counties i s'pose!  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
Does anyone know the draw for the SWS Antrim Feile Football , there is always some good football played at his level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 23, 2007, 02:09:24 PM
SW Feile. Dont know full draw, but Stinsons play Lisburn. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 23, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
Slim, just responding to a couple of points.

"Bollocks.

''I notice that you slag off Creggan's two championships as you have the same total''

show me where i slagged them?
Slim"

Right here
Re: Whats the highest Level you've played GAA at?
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2007, 03:59:04 PM »   

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Correct, thats what i am. A mid 20's flop with more wee gold ones than the whole of Creggans history!!!   

I thought that that comment was a bit cheap, that's all.

Regarding your point
"why should he sit out? because of threats made by people of your own club? (come on now, everyone knows these 'threats' weren't from elsewhere) It was those people who should have been booted out!"

You have a point here slim as I have to take peoples word on the issue. There would be a bit of hearsay with a number of the stories.  There was a number of reported "friendlies' asked for as long as we brought PH etc etc., and a number of requests not to travel with our juv. teams

What I do know is that during the year, in a number of matches when things were getting a bit hot and heavy, the opposition made remarks as to cop lovers, brits, etc, so the club on certain instances were identified with PH joining the PSNI and in my view were targeted.

Personally, I believe we should have played PH as I think it would have been the right thing to do and as we agree, 'I believe that history will look kindly on PH'



Correct.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 04:09:45 PM
show me where i slagged Creggans 2 Intermediate wins?

why would I? Sure didnt i play in it myself and won it. Played in lower Championships than that and will again, i have no doubt.

you cant quote me on words i did not say!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 04:11:38 PM
'I believe that history will look kindly on PH'

PC Peader the statesman  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 25, 2007, 09:27:29 PM
Any chance you 3/4/5 couldn't change the name of this thread to "South West Antrim Shite"?
Maybe start a new one about football.

Win for the saffrons today...hopefully a couple more before the year is out. Anyone at it? Anyone stand out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Yeah

good to see for Jody and the boys, this is the ony report i could find, hopefully we get a better one from someone who was at the game.



Two defeats put Jody Gormley's side in relegation trouble
Antrim notched their first NFL Division 2B win of the season when they beat Waterford 1-13 to 0-8 in Dungarvan.
The Saffrons trailed 0-5 to 0-4 at the interval but an Aiden Gallagher goal helped them fight back to win easily.

Antrim had lost their opening two games against Wicklow and Meath and were already looking likely candidates for Division 4 football next season.

Waterford beat Wexford in their opening NFL game while Antrim had been hit by a flu bug leading up to the match.






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2007, 09:52:11 AM
 A gritty first half performance when facing into the teeth of a strong breeze set Jody Gormley's Antrim side up for their first win of the League, and their third victory in as many years over a disappointing Waterford side at Dungarvan yesterday.

It was obvious from the start of this tie that wind was going to be a major factor in deciding the result, and when Waterford went in at the break with a slender one-point lead after enjoying the advantage, an Antrim win was very much on the cards.

The visitors picked off three excellent first half points from play with limited opportunities, while the home side persisted in playing a short passing game, and with poor finishing, ran up a total of nine first half wides to Antrim's three.

Waterford started well with top player Gary Hurney back in the side at corner forward, and it looked ominous for Antrim as he shot the home side into the lead in the second minute.

A sideline kick by Mick Ahearn was carried by the breeze and bounced over the bar to give Waterford a two-point lead in the 11th minute, but the hard-working Antrim half-back trio of McGoldrick, Bell and Scullion were giving little away and Waterford had to wait until the 19th minute for a Brian Wall point from a free to take a three-point lead.

In the 22nd minute, Darrel Martin got forward at the end of a good Antrim move to score his side's second point and, as Waterford's wides tally mounted, full-forward Michael McCann sent over a vital Antrim point to leave just one between the sides.

Minutes later O'Lionain was forced off injured to be replaced in attack by Stephen Cunningham and Waterford's last score of the first half came from a Brian Wall free in the 30th minute.

It was Paddy Cunningham who lifted Antrim spirits with a pointed free in the 32nd minute to leave the half-time score 0-5 to 0-4 in Waterford's favour.

Two minutes into the second half Cunningham had the sides level for the first time.

The decisive score came 15 minutes into the second half when, after Sean McVeigh won a great ball in midfield, Aodhan Gallagher raced through the Waterford defence to shoot a great goal for a 1–10 to 0–7 lead.

After 15 minutes without a score it was Michael Rae who increased the Antrim lead with five minutes remaining.

Waterford were reduced to 14 players with three minutes remaining when Eddie Rockett was dismissed for a second yellow card, and a late point from a free by substitute Jason Ryan was all they had to offer before Kevin Niblock had the final say with a point on the final whistle.

Antrim manager Jody Gormley was happy to get the win, his side's first of the League: "It was always going to be difficult coming down here. We knew Waterford were playing well so it was not going to be easy. I was very pleased with the way the players battled for the ball when facing the strong breeze in the first half and trailing by just a single point at the break left us in a good position. We dominated in midfield in the second third of the game."



MATCH STATS

Antrim: S McGreevey, P Doherty, C Lynch,

N Ward, C McGoldrick(0-2), G Bell, T Scullion, D Martin (0-1), S McVeigh, C Brady (0-1), K Brady, A Gallagher (1-0), K. Niblock (0-1), M McCann (0-2), P Cunningham (0-5) Subs:

M Rae (0-1) for K Brady, A McClean for Bell,

C McGourty for C Brady.

Waterford: T Wall, S Briggs, J Phelan, E Walsh, D Hickey, E Rockett, P Ogle, M Ahearn(0-1), J Hurney, B Wall (0-2), G Power, W Hennessy, G Hurney (0-3), A Hubbard, L O'Lionain (0-1). Subs: L Lawlor for J Hurney, T O'Gorman for Phelan, J Ryan (0-1) for Hennessy.

Ref: S. Joyce (Wexford)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 26, 2007, 10:58:14 AM
Seems to be a great 2nd half performance which is great news as in the past few games we've fallen away in the latter stages. i still think there is a lot of progress to be made though i'm still confident we'll chin the in-breds over the bann in the Championship.

''Eddie Rockett was dismissed for a second yellow card''

his chicken burgers are rotten too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 26, 2007, 06:56:24 PM
Was COLIN Brady playing wing half forward?

Did he score a point?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Last Fence on February 26, 2007, 07:44:32 PM
I was talking to one of the boys today... and by all accounts the scre should have been much higher but for a nasty wind
and also said that the team that was shown in the irish news today was not how they lined out!! but i didnt get the line out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 06, 2007, 04:54:21 PM
Stinsons discussion continued from derry thread,

Max what name would you give the team that Ahoghill merge with , surely this is what Ahoghill have done with Portglenone, they have merged and rather than call the team Portglenone (therefore losing their identity) they have called it Sean Stinsons giving them a new Identity at undergae level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 06, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
Just read some of the Stinsons debate from the Derry thread. 
Max,
What factual basis have you that Portglenone would be able to field underage teams on there own?
If you ask any of them team managers over the last few years they would tell you it wouldn't be possible to field 15 aside without Stinsons.  There may be the odd exception where at a specific age group 15 aside could be fielded, but it couldn't be done for all teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 10:44:13 AM
Unlikely if Max would want to stay involved in this discussion. He has already dug a big enough hole for himself, all without factual evidence to back it up!

Bottom line is birthrate stats are falling rapidly, and a lot of rural clubs will be needing to join up for juvenile purposes. When Portglenone went solo, they were a division four team, fact. Within a few years of the amalgamation with Ahoghill, they were winning four in a row minor c`ships. This in turn fed a winning mentality, and currently Portglenone are up in the top four or five teams in the county.

Now, where is the difficulty with all this. If it was a case that they were continually too strong for other SW clubs, at juvenile level, then you could see how some clubs may find this unfair. But in reality their success rate in juvenile competition just about manages to get them into the top four or five in the SW.

Its a no brainer really, the important thing is to promote the game, and all involved in Stinsons realise that its a step that is essential to be able to field teams. What Max thinks of the situation is irrelevant, and is exposed for the hypocritical rant it was. (Bellaghy and Ballynease GAC)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 07, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
OK this is not about football but is relevant to the current debate.

2007 will see the introduction of a new amalgamation hurling club in the glens - St. Brendan's - this is an amalgamation of 3 clubs - Cloughmills, Cushendun and Glenravel.

Apart from U14 level where Cushendun have numbers to field on their own - all other grades will be St. Brendan's. Just shows the direction things are headed for rural clubs with no centre of population to draw from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 07, 2007, 10:57:37 AM

Interesting piece in the star yesterday from mchugh on you boys and why antrim players aren't performing for the county when they are every bit as good and better than their counterparts from other counties at university level. any thoughts on that hypothesis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2007, 11:19:34 AM
Have you got the article Uladh?

I would say that it's only this last year or two they've started to perform at the same level at university.

You look at it and over the last ten years there'd not be a significant number of Antrim players who could get on sigerson teams - you'd a lot this year granted but before that quinn, brady, madden, owen doherty and sean kelly were the only ones I mind.

There is no doubt about it - the standard of football in Antrim is better than the county team situation would suggest. Sure a club won the ulster club the other year and then there was another team who beat them this year which would suggest club football isn't that unhealthy. Outside the top 3 or 4 you may be struggling though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 02:41:45 PM
If is, as we all know, a small word with a big meaning.

But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winnersTyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

If they had been available, and the tie at Casement, then I`d reckon Antrim would have been far too strong for Tyrone( who by the way ran away with an All-Ireland minor title with largely the same squad)

In fact, with those two available, and the St Galls lads well settled into the team following their AI club exploits, then I would have expected that Antrim side to have gone the whole way.

When this group matures in the next year or so, Antrim will be a major force to be reckoned with. Mc Hugh can have his own opinion, but Antrim football is on a steady progress chart.

This group of players do not need to be told that. They are a good bunch(and they know they are) who will make it happen for themselves.  Its up to the rest of us to share their BELIEF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 07, 2007, 03:10:09 PM
I have herad that the Aontroim v Loch Garman match this weekend is on Saturday night under lights , is this true ????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 07, 2007, 03:11:37 PM
I believe...I believe ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 07, 2007, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 02:41:45 PM
If is, as we all know, a small word with a big meaning.

But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winnersTyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

If they had been available, and the tie at Casement, then I`d reckon Antrim would have been far too strong for Tyrone( who by the way ran away with an All-Ireland minor title with largely the same squad)

In fact, with those two available, and the St Galls lads well settled into the team following their AI club exploits, then I would have expected that Antrim side to have gone the whole way.

When this group matures in the next year or so, Antrim will be a major force to be reckoned with. Mc Hugh can have his own opinion, but Antrim football is on a steady progress chart.

This group of players do not need to be told that. They are a good bunch(and they know they are) who will make it happen for themselves.  Its up to the rest of us to share their BELIEF.

you make it sound like Crozier opted to play for the minors when both you and i  know it wasnt the case.... isnt that right johnjoe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
Slim, the whole Crozier thing took on a life of its own. In fairness the lad himself was blameless - put in a really tight spot not of his doing. But there were a lot of influences at work, some trying hard to get him freed up, others trying to make sure he wasnt freed up. Some selectors wanting him in against Tyrone, and others unbelievably reckoning he was over-rated.

Wonder did they think he was over-rated after his display against St Galls. Muppets. Probably cost us an Ulster. Personally I`m his biggest fan, and have been looking out for him since he was about 15. Class act. Sigerson medal and co senior at 19. All we need is a few more like him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 03:40:40 PM
Why are we harping back to "what could have been " last year against Tyrone U-21's ? Lets move on.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on March 07, 2007, 03:43:08 PM
Saw Justin Crozier play a few times between playing for Cargin seniors, Antrim minors and in the McRory cup. He was absolutely outstanding every game I saw him no doubt about it hes a class act, reminded me of Henry Downey the way he carried the game to the opposition.
well saying he has Tyrone blood in him  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 07, 2007, 03:53:02 PM
He won a Sigerson medal, a Senior C'ship medal and an U-21 Club C'ship medal all in the one year.

not a bad year i suppose  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on March 08, 2007, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on March 07, 2007, 03:53:02 PM
He won a Sigerson medal, a Senior C'ship medal and an U-21 Club C'ship medal all in the one year.

not a bad year i suppose  :P

Surely the SFC and U21 were last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 08, 2007, 01:44:21 PM
March 2006 he had none of those medals, March 2007 he has the 3 of them.

NOT A BAD YEAR!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 08, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
QuoteBut IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winners Tyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

Im sure that maybe they might have made a difference, but can you honestly say that they would have beaten tyrone.  Tyrone would have raised their game, they definitely went into that game with a sense of arrogance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 08, 2007, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 08, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
QuoteBut IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winners Tyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

Im sure that maybe they might have made a difference, but can you honestly say that they would have beaten tyrone.  Tyrone would have raised their game, they definitely went into that game with a sense of arrogance!
Crozier and McGourty both played for Antrim minors in some whackfuckery Minor League match rather than the under-21 championship match.  Antrim may or may not have beaten Tyrone had both played for the under-21s.

However, I would expect both to make Antrim's first fifteen for the Senior championship this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 08, 2007, 03:21:07 PM
QuoteMarch 2006 he had none of those medals, March 2007 he has the 3 of them.


Its a good year for any footballer, for an antrim footballer...well...its a minor miracle :o :o....I believe, I believe :D


Lads I was just thinking, its going to be some craic here the week before and after the senior championship match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 08, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 08, 2007, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 08, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
QuoteBut IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winners Tyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

Im sure that maybe they might have made a difference, but can you honestly say that they would have beaten tyrone.  Tyrone would have raised their game, they definitely went into that game with a sense of arrogance!
Crozier and McGourty both played for Antrim minors in some whackfuckery Minor League match rather than the under-21 championship match.  Antrim may or may not have beaten Tyrone had both played for the under-21s.

However, I would expect both to make Antrim's first fifteen for the Senior championship this year.

it wasnt their fault Sam, the all knowing johnjoe will tell you that as he knows all the goings on regarding that saga  ;) ;) wink wink nudge nudge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 08, 2007, 03:36:19 PM
Nrico, Two full sides at Casement, no doubt Antrim would have won. But thats only an opinion, something we will never know. The players themselves know that, and thats the main thing. Their day will come.
But it still makes me sick to know that our first Ulster title in years was fucked up by a mixture of ignorance by certain selectors, and officialdom who still cant face up to the fact.

Bottom line is the match was lost off the field. Thats my opinion and sorry, but it will never change. Now, as Syd said yesterday, we must put it behind us and hopefully that group will put it right for themselves in future years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 08, 2007, 04:52:46 PM
Johnjoe, , stating that they would win, no doubt isexpressing a certain amount of certainty around antrims chances of beating tyrone at casement.  I simply believe that Tyrone players would have raised their game if need be.  Do you think that antrims u-21 side this year will challenge Tyrones then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 09, 2007, 03:40:53 PM
Wouldnt be right of me to cast aspersions on this years side, and maybe i am a bit biased, as Slim will know, but last years team was our best chance for a long time, and certain people managed to completely screw it up.

Question is, how many St Johns players will make the starting 15 this year, and more importantly, how many should?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 09, 2007, 03:49:13 PM
yes, Slim knows 'johnjoes' side of the story  ;)

it took me a while to work out if it was definitely you but now i'm sure!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 03:41:24 PM
Antrim 1-10 Wexford 2-14 Was it as bad as the scoreline suggests?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 11, 2007, 07:33:20 PM
Anyone there who can post a report?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 07:43:22 PM
We got our goal at the death to give the scoreline some semblance of respectability......I was gonna say its gonna be a long season but i think it will actually be pretty short !!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 11, 2007, 07:47:34 PM
yeah, and after Derry's win today a lot of lads will head of for the summer earlier than normal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 10:10:27 AM
Said it before and I`ll say it again.

If you were compiling a list of our best 10 or 12 players in the county, all or most of the followiing would be on that list.

In no particular order, Convery, Mc Gourty, O`Boyle, Micko, O`Boyle again, Kelly, Magill., and Andy Mc Clean. Then there is Crozier and young CJ. Theres 10 would be on my county team.

I know theres all sorts of reasons why the above werent available yesterday, but the facts are we are a pretty poor outfit without them. If I were Jody, I know what my priorities would be over the next few weeks.

Plus, I would be sitting down with players and getting them to state, or sign up, to their position on going to the States, to avoid last years debacle of guys playing on a saturday, knowing if they were beaten they were off to Boston or somewhere within a few hours.

Looks like the white flag was thrown in again yesterday, thats the sad thing!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 12:33:28 PM
Anyone know when is the Antrim v Derry under 21 game, and where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 12, 2007, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 10:10:27 AM
Said it before and I`ll say it again.

If you were compiling a list of our best 10 or 12 players in the county, all or most of the followiing would be on that list.

In no particular order, Convery, Mc Gourty, O`Boyle, Micko, O`Boyle again, Kelly, Magill., and Andy Mc Clean. Then there is Crozier and young CJ. Theres 10 would be on my county team.

I agree with what you are saying but some people think we are gonna automatically win Sam if we get these players back. Quite a few of the lads you have mentioned were playing last year against Clare in the qualifiers and we all know what happened there......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 03:06:26 PM
Cant think of anyone Syd who is expecting we would win Sam any time soon, even with those players back. But without them we dont have a strong enough panel to challenge for anything other than, dare I say the words, TMC.

And without those players would that even be a safe bet?

Maybe its the Monday blues, but that was a sickener yesterday, and there is no point dressing it up as anything else!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 12, 2007, 03:50:50 PM
When will we wake up and realise that we are the worst football team in Ireland, and we are throwing money at it. Lets bring back the fun factor, let the players play with their clubs and select a panel based on the best players. Season starts in three weeks

Moral in the camp must be at an all time low. I'd say Cargin or Naomh Gall or Lamhs would beat the current county team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 12, 2007, 04:23:58 PM
Who was it, was saying they expect to beat Derry in the championship :D :D...cant wait for it... :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realredhandfan on March 12, 2007, 04:34:15 PM
hgow did you fare against the best team in tyrone yesterday max
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2007, 05:12:28 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 12, 2007, 03:50:50 PM
Lets bring back the fun factor, let the players play with their clubs and select a panel based on the best players. Season starts in three weeks

Tried that with admin on the antrim website amongst other suggestion. admin thanked me for my suggestions and then proceeded to rubbish every one of them. They seem to know best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2007, 05:51:39 PM
Yeah that admin sometimes seems like an arrogant gob****e- wonder who he is.

Milltown or skull I'm not sure about your attitude though. We just got to the AI minor quarter finals, have had some hugely impressive performers in the sigerson(yes some are in the antrim squad), had a team in the AI club final last year etc. etc. We are by no means utilising our resources to the best of our ability and that needs to be looked at but the standard of football in this county is considerably better than 30th, 31st or 32nd in the country. Granted the league campaign thus far has been duff but we'll get better. Like someone says we'll not win Sam but things can only get better.

I could see your point in the hurling with go back to clubs bu not the football.

I still reckon we'll give Derry a rattle. Just because Derry beat a shadow Armagh team yesterday and a flu ridden antrim sauqd got beat by wexford doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 12, 2007, 06:25:40 PM
Carrickmore called the game off...

doesnt mean anything :D :D :D..delusional :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 12, 2007, 11:01:18 PM
Away back to the Derry site Max, or give odds on you beating us by less than ten - I'll take them.

Agree with the calls to get the players back/on board. Do it now...Jody has been right to stick to his guns but here and now you get the best panel together. With Sigerson/McKenna cup out of the way it should be full steam ahead to the championship and the thrashing we are going to receive by Derry...the odds max?

eg I have no clue for example what has been said between McGourty and Jody but (and it pains me to say this) we need him on board.
The best players should be playing for the county, because they want to. I have no doubt that when the first round of the championship is on the horizon the same boys will want to be playing.
If I could I would.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2007, 08:45:01 AM
Kevin wont be playing for Antrim this year he's heading off to the states this summer with his kid brother, that's for sure, he probably wont play for the club either so stop the nonsense.
For years Antrim people thought that we were a good football team, it was in 82 that we got past the first round then it took 25 years I think to get past the first round again when we beat Down. Every year people come on and say we are going to give it a rattle, it's not going to happen.

I witnessed last year the commitment it took to get to the All Ireland final (club) last year. It was serious training plus the lads were on diets to beef up and the fitness levels were kept up every day, the players had daily training plans plus rest days and all there needs were catered for (cost the club a fortune) but they almost got the reward. Big sacrifices were made from the management, players and committee.

Can the Antrim squad put their hands up and say that they are that committed? I doubt it, when they want to compete at the top go and ask the ex management of Naomh Gall on what it takes to get there. Until then get used to playing in the TMC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 13, 2007, 10:26:29 AM
Two Mc Gourtys for the States, and God knows who else. If I was Jody I`d be getting the list sorted out now, who is going, and who isnt?

Milltown, no doubt St Galls emptied the tank to win the AI club last year, and were by far the better team, but a few experienced scoretakers froze on the day. Question is, how big is the desire to get back to that stage, now that you know the work involved (and the burnout).

Whitey used the B c`ship as a stepping stone to better things, and realistically I believe that unless Antrim are at full strength, and a bit more experienced, then anything else is beyond them IN THE SHORT TERM. If Jody could win the TMC, I`d be happy enough, with something to build on for next season. Thats not to say we couldnt have a lash at "inconsistent" Derry. But at the minute the odds are stacked in their favour, and only a fool would dispute that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 15, 2007, 10:19:00 AM
QuoteThats not to say we couldnt have a lash at "inconsistent" Derry. But at the minute the odds are stacked in their favour, and only a fool would dispute that!

JohnJoe are you trying to suggest your not a fool :D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 16, 2007, 11:34:49 AM
Away wi ye Max, I wouldnt be one for gettin into a slanging match.

Anyway, how are the famous Tones shaping up. Hows pre-season going, any recent challenges, and are you really sure Cass hasnt brought the footballs out yet? Have ye a game at the weekend Max, and how do you expect it to go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on March 19, 2007, 01:15:56 PM
johnjoe by the sounds of it u should've been senior manager,u would'nt be long sorting it out ,i think ur right max  (FOOL)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 09:14:07 AM
any games at the weekend lads? we beat a very young Whitehill team in the O'Cahan Cup on Friday night under their lights.

i hear Rasharkin lost to St Johns in the Reserve Final also (last years!!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 20, 2007, 01:25:39 PM
Hightower, whats your problem? Surely you can come up with some logical viewpoint that pinpoints something you disagree with. But to come on and make such a statement without backing it up, just shows you up to have nothing to offer the thread.

Maybe you should think about just staying on the Hogan Stand board, or alternatively surprise us all with something worthwhile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 01:50:02 PM
Slim, do you know where Johnjoe is from, between Antrim and football and Derry he seems to go to a lot of footie, even in Arboe last week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 01:53:58 PM
i do indeed Max, not only where he is from but I've had a pint with him  ;)

though he may have been drinking orange and didn't buy me one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 01:59:37 PM
Well Slim prey tell what club he is from...thats all I want to know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 02:02:05 PM
I wouldnt be divulging such info Max, not since you and yer cohorts outed me a while back!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 02:05:28 PM
Slim, I had nothing to do with it, to be absolutely honest I do not have a clue who you are, even if some suggested what ur role in the team was, I haven't a clue, i never even went to the Clontribret game, it was all a wind up on my part. I would not know if I met ye...seriously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 02:05:28 PM
Slim, I had nothing to do with it, to be absolutely honest I do not have a clue who you are, even if some suggested what ur role in the team was, I haven't a clue, i never even went to the Clontribret game, it was all a wind up on my part. I would not know if I met ye...seriously

Yeah you would  ;)

but if johnjoe wants to share with you its up to him, it isnt rocket science either!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 20, 2007, 02:55:04 PM
come on slim tell us all, mick magill especially wants to know who he is  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 02:56:32 PM
Mick knows!! of that i am certain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 20, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
well let us know then, magill tore his head off yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 20, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
This Magill thing lads, look I made a comment about Mick that didnt sit too easily. Something along the lines of the most talented footballer in the county ( major compliment) followed by a question mark about his committment and dedication etc.

I wish when I was 24. that I had half of Micks ability and physique, etc, and he still is in a position to influence that. If he takes offence at me discussing this on an open forum like this, then as I said before he was in a brilliant position to prove me, and any other doubters wrong.

Two facts still exist. One, Magill can still be the best if he has the desire to do so, and Two, his removal from Jodys squad had absolutely nothing to do with me. Hopefully he will be a success with the hurlers and if so it will be footballs loss.

Now, if Michael has a problem with that, and he obviously knows my identity, I am happy to discuss it in a sensible way, because Antrim still need him doing his stuff. Or maybe he wants to channel his energy in taking my head off for trying to do him a favour!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 20, 2007, 03:55:53 PM
All pretty petty at the minute lads, ripping peoples heads off for a bit of slagging
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 03:59:25 PM
petty indeed, and it got boring a brave while ago!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 20, 2007, 04:00:57 PM
magill is class act as we all know, oozes talent! hopefully he gets into a bit of nick for the summer and does the job on the field, put all his doubters to rest!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on March 20, 2007, 06:48:07 PM
RE;Johnjoe.
1-K Mc Gourty hasn't proved it at county level and a liability(fermanagh game 2006)
2-Micko hasn't proved it at club level,goes missing in the big games-2005 semi,2006 final
3-G O'Boyle,Cargin proved they could win a championship playing better as a team without him
4- CJ Mc Gourty,while a good footballer an awful attitude to goading other players(hence G Bell clipping a few weeks ago)won't get off with at county level or the states
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 20, 2007, 09:29:55 PM
Hightower

3 of the 4 players you mentioned, with young CJ being the exception, would surely be automatic selections for Jody if they came onboard and towed the line, IMO Antrim would be a better team with them than without them, they may have attitudes but to question their talent, is unfounded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 20, 2007, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on March 20, 2007, 09:29:55 PM
Hightower

3 of the 4 players you mentioned, with young CJ being the exception, would surely be automatic selections for Jody if they came onboard and towed the line, IMO Antrim would be a better team with them than without them, they may have attitudes but to question their talent, is unfounded

A manager has to decide who is in charge of the team, him or some players. For fcuks sake if Mc Gourty came back how long would it be until he decided the showers werent warm enough, or that there was too much milk in his tea after training,then he hits speed dial on his phone and gets the Irish News for another "Exclusive Heartbreaker From Kevin"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 21, 2007, 09:12:34 AM
Syd I agree with you, what I am saying is that he is a talented footballer, thats all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 21, 2007, 10:12:16 AM
Agree with hightower, kevin mc gourty hasnt proved or achieved anything at county level, and its not like hes a young cub breaking through at 20/21, hes about 25.  Fair enough he apparently played well in the sigerson final, but thats not county standard - its against boys who are nearly all 4 or 5 years younger than him too.  As mentioned, where was he against fermanagh last summer, or Clare?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 21, 2007, 10:27:26 AM
Well at least this thread has got back on to the first page - thought for a few days it was dying.

Hightower, you are entitled to your opinion just like the rest of us, but my earlier point is that we are a damn middling team without the nine players I listed last week. Why have I a feeling you are on the panel, and dont welcome any further opposition to your place.

The bottom line is we dont have anywhere near a panel of 20-25 grade A players at inter county level, and the inclusion of a few of the ones missing would be a big help. I also recognise there is the potential for disruption to the panel, but at the end of the day its Jody`s choice, and he will have to deal with all the pros and cons, including the possible consequences of failure without them.

And lets keep the debate healthy and forget about the ripping off heads stuff, thats for delinquents. Lets move on.

Now on a more serious note, HOW MANY ST JOHNS PLAYERS HAVE BEEN PICKED, BY THE ST JOHNS MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR SATURDAY`S UNDER 21`S VERSUS DERRY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 21, 2007, 02:31:55 PM
Far too many Johnnies men in that set up. Most of them not up to the standard. Meade has been on the panel as last 3 yrs, no harm to the lad but hes not up to it at all, carries to much weight and from what i hear isnt fond of training too much!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on March 21, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on March 21, 2007, 02:31:55 PM
Far too many Johnnies men in that set up. Most of them not up to the standard. Meade has been on the panel as last 3 yrs, no harm to the lad but hes not up to it at all, carries to much weight and from what i hear isnt fond of training too much!

I saw Meade hurling last year for St Johns and couldnt believe the size of him, he must be 18st.....What a heap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 22, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
I have a gut feeling that two or three St Johns players will make the starting 15, and possibly another one or two introduced during the game.

Thats possibly FIVE in total.

Which is what I have been scared of all along with so many St Johns mentors involved. If this happens this will be nepotism(favouring ones own)of the hiighest order.

Last years last minute debacle was bad enough, with Meade an obvious liability (replaced after 15 minutes after missing the first three balls), but St Johns mentors cant be allowed to get away with it again.

QUESTION? Name a St Johns player who has the known ability to even be on the panel?

Im not for letting this go if it happens. f**king diabolical. Will be the end of that management team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 22, 2007, 10:30:57 AM
Went on to the u-21 thread and just saw the team and panel.

That must be a wind up. Cant be the official  team. No Windows, No Franklin, No Pollock, all three played well last year. Wheres Declan O Hagan from St Brigids, another good player from last year?

And there ARE 5 St Johns on the panel, two on the team.

Dick Turpin at least wore a mask. These men are having a laugh - SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A BAD JOKE.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 10:33:43 AM
its no wind up, the team has been named and they train again tonight. I spoke with one of our lads earlier today who confirmed that team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 22, 2007, 11:05:48 AM
Pure and unadulterated favouritism of the highest level. Was going to Celtic Park, but sod that now.

O Prey has lost any respect or goodwill that he may have had last year by allowing this to happen. 5 St Johns players, and can anyone tell me which one of them is remotely likely to play senior county football in the next five years? Can ANYONE even tell me which one of them is a real good player !!!!

Five players, three selectors/ backroom team, what chance has the other players got?

What is the crack with Pollock, Franklin, Windows , etc. They are not even listed and I heard they were on the panel. Have to say I dont like this at all. BIG STINK, NOT NICE!

This year group had potential, but looks to be well and truly fucked up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 11:12:45 AM
after the way the Johnnies U21's behaved in the Final in December its an absolute disgrace that anyone involved with that team- players or management- should be let near a county side. in fact i'd go as far to say the management of that team should have faced disciplinary action for allowing their team to behave in such a manner. i wont be near Celtic Park anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 12:38:39 PM
JJ you seem a tad upset by this team selection, its not the players fault that they are picked, its the manager's fault and the County Board for selecting the management, surely these selecters didn't become biased overnight, did nobody see this coming, Is it the whole team selection or just the inclusion of the ST Johns lads thats the problem, I personnally dont have enough knowledge of the players invloved to be critical but JJ you seem to have, boycotting the game wont help the Antrim Football Cause,

Slim - your only beef with the selection is that the St John's lads ruffed yous up a bit, hardly seems an objective view, are you happy with rest of the slection
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 12:45:50 PM
no, its a poor team picked by poor selectors. i could name a better u21 team with ease. yes, there'd be 4 or 5 of that team on that cant be ignored- Crozier, McCann, Hasson, McGourty but theres little else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 22, 2007, 12:46:32 PM
QuoteSlim - your only beef with the selection is that the St John's lads ruffed yous up a bit, hardly seems an objective view, are you happy with rest of the slection

A red rag to a bull I think :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 22, 2007, 12:49:28 PM
I was looking through the paper and have just realised that your u21s play Derry in Celtic park and then in the evening ye are hosts to Cavan in the natioanl league. Now theres planning and partnership working at national level for the benefit of Antrim football. Does the county board have any sway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
No surprise there Max,

I think last year the County fixed a Minor Match the same day as the U21 Championship match, resulting in 1 of the Minors no being allowed to play for the U21's namely Crozier, surely he would have made at difference, he is a very good club player,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 12:45:50 PM
no, its a poor team picked by poor selectors. i could name a better u21 team with ease. yes, there'd be 4 or 5 of that team on that cant be ignored- Crozier, McCann, Hasson, McGourty but theres little else.

Go head Slim, name it, just for the craic,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on March 22, 2007, 02:43:04 PM
Windows was dropped off the squad, don't know why
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 22, 2007, 04:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
No surprise there Max,

I think last year the County fixed a Minor Match the same day as the U21 Championship match,

As is the case once again this Saturday - Antrim minors play Ulster League in Aghagallon before the same management have to get their way up to Celtic Park for the U21 game, and then Seniors play in Casement that evening.

Absolute disaster of an organisation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fr Ted on March 22, 2007, 04:56:21 PM
Speaking of disasters, i see the league fixtures are posted on the Antrim GAA site, matches fixed for nov 07.

Put on your thermals for that one!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on March 22, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
Dont worry Ted the november games wont be played until at least January!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on March 22, 2007, 07:05:55 PM
Would Timmy C have no say in what goes on or is he just a yesman,
is the Banagher manager not a selector as well slim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 12:35:59 PM
The Banagher manager did his three years with u-21`s. Year one lost by three in Crossmaglen without Magill, Paul Doc, and Karl Stewart, for different reasons. Armagh beat Derry by 14 in Ulster final, and win all Ireland.

Year Two, beaten by 7 pts in Omagh, no excuses.

Year Three, beat Fermanagh by 12, and withut Crozier and CJ lose by 2 pts in Omagh, with a point disallowed. Ulster title thrown away. Tyrone lose in extra time to Mayo, AI winners. Provincial and poss AI title screwed up by officialdom.

Timmy Connolly brought in by Delargy, and very popular with players. With Delargy he had a big influence on team selection, but apparently his opinions completely overruled by O`Prey this year.

Ethan, see Page 49 for a comment I made re the certainty that this team would have strong pro-St John bias, and I saw it coming a long time ago. Total shambles of a selection , and O`Prey can be ashamed of himself. As for him in todays Irish News trying to take credit for changing the mindset, what a load of shite.

What he has done is to send a team out on Saturday in the worst mental shape ever and I expect his inadequacies to be exploited on Saturday. Good luck to the players, they cant help all this going on around them. They can still put up a performance in spite of the management. Will be there to cheer the lads on, but I fear the worst!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 23, 2007, 12:59:13 PM
would just like tosay crozier is more than just a very good club player....he had an excellent sigerson cup and with him beller and sean kelly(when hes back) in the half back line we would be extremely solid there!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 01:10:56 PM
Re Club Minor Football.

Any Antrim clubs looking for a challenge against a right and decent Derry club team, this Sunday.

Kilrea will travel, or host.

What about your lads Slim, could you check it out, or anyone else. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 23, 2007, 01:17:10 PM
would probably have taken it but too late now. We 'train' on Saturday with a couple of games. I hear Moortown are looking about friendlies, think they played Rasharkin last night though cant be sure. they certainly asked us for a friendly a couple of weeks ago.


Edit: Surely this is a pisstake and you wouldnt try and give away your identity?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 01:38:01 PM
Not at all slim. Have a good friend from Kilrea who manages their minor team, and has asked me to see if i know any Antrim clubs that would play them in a challenge.

Its just a straightforward football request, nothing else. I`ll get in touch with Fred Mc Vey in Moortown. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 23, 2007, 01:42:54 PM
sorry, i didnt read the 'minor' part. give me 15 mins and i'll get back to you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on March 23, 2007, 01:43:35 PM
Will somebody post up the u21 team, try and use real names please.

How about giving the team a chance, a ball hasn't been kicked yet and o'prey is been slaughtered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 23, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
johnjoe, no word back- do you want me to PM you his number/name?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 02:32:19 PM
Yea Slim, no probs. I`ve got Geordies mobile tho, if it saves any bother.

Youse should be decent this year, good u-16 last year. Kilrea would be fairly hot too though.

Rash, new un, welcome, hope you can enjoy the banter, and the occasional bit of stick.

What is your area of expertise? Managing, playing or spectating? SW or SA? Whats your prediction for Saturday then? Antrim by how many?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on March 23, 2007, 04:58:29 PM
Not exactly new JJ, i'm a long time lurker.

Not sure what to make of the u21 team but Derry are gonna be strong.

The previous minor teams against Donegal and Cavan haven't been too impressive but last years team can give us some hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 24, 2007, 06:01:00 PM
Derry 0-13 Antrim 1-7 U-21 Championship Result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 24, 2007, 10:04:16 PM
Antrim 0-14 Cavan 3-10 Result. An improvement but they are still shipping stupid goals....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 24, 2007, 10:10:45 PM
where does the problem lie, is it the style of play, bad decision making, or as you have alluded to Syd just stupidity in the goals being let in. Has Jody improved the team?

the positive taken from this from just looking at the score is that Antrim had more scores than Cavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2007, 10:15:16 PM
They started well and finished well, there was only 2 points in it with about 6 or 7 minutes left but Cavan got a goal from a penalty and that was that. But they hit some bad wides, Cunningham is a good freetaker but does not offer much from general play. Cavan always got a couple of scores when Antrim were getting closer. Its too early to say what kind of impact Gormley has had but the results have been poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 25, 2007, 12:35:35 AM
Quote from: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 01:38:01 PM
Not at all slim. Have a good friend from Kilrea who manages their minor team, and has asked me to see if i know any Antrim clubs that would play them in a challenge.

Its just a straightforward football request, nothing else. I`ll get in touch with Fred Mc Vey in Moortown. Thanks.

JJ what about moving over the border and playing a Down team as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 25, 2007, 09:32:44 PM
Well lads , thats the end of the U21's for another year, the team selection got alot of discussion, was anyone at the game? what was the performance like? were they poor or were they just beaten by a better Derry team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 26, 2007, 10:00:06 AM
Was at both games on Saturday, and although both beaten, it must be said that both teams battled well until the end.

In u-21`s, Derry a more cohesive side, better movement etc, and for a long time Antrim living on scraps. But a credit to get within one major score.

Seniors beaten by the same margin, and Cavan got a soft penalty to boot.

Not the whitewash I feared, so credit where it is due! I saw Cavan destroy Derry earlier this year, so keep the work going Jody, it will all be on the day, and at Casement we have every chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Zorba the Greek on March 26, 2007, 10:35:40 AM
Football not so poor as hurlers ... Defence could do with a tightner. Quote from RTE radio on Saturday - "Antrim's defence is like Dr Who's Tardis - Small and compact from the outside, but once you get inside there's loads of space" PRICELESS..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 26, 2007, 12:58:36 PM
Another bad day at the office, so to speak, for Antrim this weekend....again. Really looking forward to the 1st round of the championship...ah well, as JJ said, they kept battling to the end :D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on March 26, 2007, 05:10:10 PM
I notice that magill was not listed on the hurling panel at the weekend. Is he off the panel or injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 26, 2007, 05:41:22 PM
Magill not on the senior Hurling panel..think he was dropped off it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 26, 2007, 05:55:56 PM
So where now for Magill then if that is the case?

Does anyone actually know him? Don't want to start any debate at all again involving John Joe's head being ripped off (for making a pretty objective statement about a county player in the public eye) but just want to know.

For one of the most talented footballers and hurlers in the county what is he at?
Can he just not be arsed?
Would Jody accept him back? Would he go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on March 27, 2007, 09:17:53 AM
Any O'Cahan cup matches played at the weekend? think they were due to be played after being cancelled last week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 27, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Sure he fractured his left hand and finger in the first NHL match against Galway.  He played half a football match last week but he is not playing hurling for us boys for a month or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 28, 2007, 01:15:29 PM
Not much to sprout about on this thread at the minute....wonder why ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
Sorry to be a bit cryptic with this query but I would rather not start a rumor which is false so with that in mind....
Does £29,000 register in anybody's mind. I heard something at the weekend and I couldn't believe it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Poocher on March 29, 2007, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 28, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
Sorry to be a bit cryptic with this query but I would rather not start a rumor which is false so with that in mind....
Does £29,000 register in anybody's mind. I heard something at the weekend and I couldn't believe it

Skull i hear ye loud and clear, I heard about it over the weekend too, not quite from the horses mouth but from serveral horses in the same stable if you catch my drift.

Serious dough.  The commitee of the club in question has a lot to answer for, how could this go un-noticed for over 2 years?

Could this have anything to do with that clubs current on field stuggles? lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 02:19:11 PM
1000 posts  :D  Jeesh but i should do more work!!  :-\


would you pair stop talking in riddles and spill the beans?

Lets hear it skull you old fart??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 29, 2007, 03:10:20 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 02:19:11 PM
1000 posts  :D  Jeesh but i should do more work!!  :-\


would you pair stop talking in riddles and spill the beans?

Lets hear it skull you old fart??
Heard the same rumours from a variety of horses in the same stable also.  Not the first club along the road to be turned over by a bar manager.

On an unrelated topic, I overheard the Rossa senior football and hurling managers discussing which nights they would have training.  I think the footballers are going with monday. the hurlers Wednesday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 03:11:32 PM
 :D

cheers Sam!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 29, 2007, 03:19:29 PM
When a rumour is confirmed twice its public knowledge.

And the £29,000 went to...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 29, 2007, 03:28:56 PM
Slim, your such a hero :D

My hero ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 03:33:28 PM
And you are my favourite stalker!!
Title: Club C'ship Draws
Post by: aontroim on March 29, 2007, 11:49:28 PM
Draws already on county website for c'ships;

SENIOR FOOTBALL

Preliminary Round
1. Cargin v St. Paul's
2. St. Gall's v Lámh Dhearg

Quarter Finals
Creggan v St. John's
2 v Rasharkin
1 v Gort na Mona
Portglenone v St. Brigid's

INTERMEDIATE FOOTBALL

First Round
1. Ardoyne v St. Teresa's
2. Glenravel v McDermott's
3. Moneyglass v Glenavy
4. Dunloy v Sarsfield's
5. Rossa v St. Enda's
6. Aghagallon v Davitt's
7. Aldergrove v All Saints

Quarter Finals
6 v 5
7 v Tír na nÓg
3 v 2
4 v 1

JUNIOR FOOTBALL

First Round
1. Ballycastle v St. Agnes'
2. Lisburn v Eire Óg
3. St. Malachy's v Antrim

Quarter Finals
Ballymoney v Mitchel's
O'Donnell's v Ahoghill
3 v 2
Na Fuiseoige v 1

U21 FOOTBALL

First Round
1. Tír na nÓg v St. Paul's
2. Ahoghill v All Saints
3. St. Brigid's v Sarsfield's
4. Moneyglass v Dunloy
5. Davitt's v Creggan
6. Glenravel v St. Teresa's
7. St. John's v Cargin

Second Round
Rossa v 1
4 v Aghagallon
6 v Rasharkin
Aldergrove v Lamh Dhearg
7 v Gort na Mona
2 v 3
St. Enda's v Portglenone
5 v St. Gall's

MINOR FOOTBALL

First Round
1. St. Teresa's v St. Brigid's
2. Tir na n'Og v All Saints
3. Aghagallon v St. John's
4. Ardoyne v St. Gall's
5. Moneyglass v Rossa
6. St. Enda's v Sarsfield's
7. Davitt's v Cargin

Second Round
1 v 7
Rasharkin v Gort na Mona
Aldergrove v Dunloy
Glenavy v Lamh Dhearg
Sean Stinson's v 4
St. Paul's v 2
3 v 5
6 v Creggan

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 30, 2007, 08:50:46 AM
Tough enough start for the defending Champions but I'm happy with it, wouldnt have wanted to draw Gort na Mona or Creggan (with all due respect) as everyone would be expecting a win. St Pauls are always a tough nut to crack and it should be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 01, 2007, 09:31:39 PM
anyone at the game?

who played well/badly??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 03, 2007, 04:27:24 PM
Antrim Football seems a bit dead here.
Wot does everyone thinl of the Senior Football draw?

Any predictions for winners of the football competitions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2007, 04:46:31 PM
St Galls seem to get caught on the hop sometimes early on - well twice with both being from Cargin and one not counting in the end but they'll have no momentum going into this one so Lamh Dhearg to cause a surprise. St Pauls are poor so Cargin to beat them. The rest to be honest will be no challenge to these two and you take Cunningham's frees out and Cargin are a good bit better so Cargin again.

Intermediate - Dunloy

Junior - the aggies or odonnells should be too good for this level. Prediction- the aggies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 04, 2007, 10:31:44 AM
Cant see past Cargin, but Lamh Dearg a dark horse. Will see last year as a stepping stone to go one further, and werent a mile away when you think of it.

Anyone here know anything about the South Antrim feile, hows it going, who is fancied etc. St Galls were u-12 champions two years ago. Have they picked up half a dozen "new" players in the meantime?

St Johns had a good u-12 team last year, and looked pretty good. Any others with high expectations from the city?

Think its Aldergrove versus Stinsons in the SW final.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 10, 2007, 02:59:24 PM
start of the div 1 season this week Dunloy will be at Milltown, what sort of team will they bring? much improved from the first game last year i would imagine. we will be without a few regulars and a new manager so it's hard to call how we will go this year. maybe the first shock result this Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on April 10, 2007, 06:17:16 PM
not much chat over antrims win (at last) on sunday, just goes to show that if we could stop shipping the goals we would have finished in a far higher position. good boost for the team on the run into championship. I was at the game and have to say the young lads loughery and crozier kept the tipperary star man declan browne very quiet.

at the other end the forwards looked sharp but all seemed to want to get on the score board and were selfish, the score would have been alot wider if the right option had been taken on a few occasions! anyone else attend?
saw today that derrys captain, mc guckin is definately out with a broken leg, hes their star defender and surely this gives antrim a chance come june?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2007, 10:05:28 PM
Antrim always have a chance in a one off match but they need a bit of luck too.

The teams a bit small for me though if u compare them with other successful teams.

I watched the Derry v Down 1994 game last week on TG4 and the size of those players compared to Antrims senior team now is frightening.

McGuckin is a loss surely but sure they still have lockhart, cartin, hinphy, mccloy, o'kane etc so im sure they'll not be too worried.

Its sobering to look at the line up for Div4 next year and to see Antrim alongside footballing feather-weights Tipperary, Waterfood, London etc---it shows us where we are really at.

We are lacking in so many areas (including the supporters) that it is almost impossible to be optimistic about the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 11, 2007, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 11, 2007, 10:05:28 PM
Antrim always have a chance in a one off match but they need a bit of luck too.


Its sobering to look at the line up for Div4 next year and to see Antrim alongside footballing feather-weights Tipperary, Waterfood, London etc---it shows us where we are really at.

What makes us think we are anything other than "footballing feather-weights"? We have been delluding ourselves for years........2 championship wins in Ulster C'Ship in 20 odd years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2007, 11:01:59 PM
Exactly

I think that by being in the same league (2A) as teams such as Meath and Cavan we dellude ourselves and think we are not as bad as we are (especially when we score 2 goals in injury time against a team pulling up and lose by 3 and have to listen to "there was only a kick of the ball in it" shite)

I think next years league will be a wake up call as to exactly where we are at (alongside Tipp and London and just behind Sligo, Wicklow, Clare and even Leitrim.

Its a sad state of affairs--ive loved Antrim since i was no age--going to Casement for the championship watching every second of the minor games to the end of the senior but is sickening getting beaten.

Im fanatical about gaelic football--for years now its been the first thing i think about when i wake up and the last thing i think about before sleeping--i believe there are many as fanatical as me but we all need to pull in the right direction and focus on trying to firstly make ourselves competitive and to then one day win things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 11, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim. But on the other hand I admire you, for its people like yourself who have that blind faith, which will hopefully get the reward ye deserve in football. If Antrim had more like ye...maybe...maybe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 12, 2007, 10:34:52 AM
Maybe, maybe Max. Whatever you say.

Gold, Antrim are starting to produce a much better type of player than ever before, but we need to be fanatical and as passionate as the Derry, Tyrone or Armagh folk.

In Derry, over the combined weekend of FIRST round c`ship games would see, as a rough guess, 40,000 people attend and pay in through the turnstile. This attendance would increase as the competitions develop, and over a season this would be a huge financial boost to the Derry county coffers.

I ask, how many would attend the games at the same stage in Antrim?

Therby lies the answer. Cargin v St Galls semi - final would bring in a crowd of 4000 approx. Any of the top six clubs in Derry, would have a semi-final attendance of 10 - 12,000 people. If it were a double header, I would anticipate 14-16000.

Now, if you had St Pauls versus Creggan semi, you might be lucky to have 1500 present. Thats the difference, and thats no disrespect to anyone in Antrim. But we dont have the same fanaticism as other counties, or passion, and until that is in place, in clubs, schools, and county squads at all levels, then we will always be playing catch up.

Now thats not to say we couldnt develop a senior squad of 20 - 25 quality players that could do a Fermanagh of 2004, but it would be no good unless the structures are sustainable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2007, 11:26:22 AM
Would agree to a point with JJ.

We are now producing a quality calibre of player who can compete at Sigerson level etc. However on the other side of the coin an amount of this talent has come through Derry schools - McCann, Crozier etc. Brady and Madden came from Derry schools  Belfast schools are becoming increasingly competitive in the McLarnon cup though which can only be beneficial and in this years sigerson we had some of the best young players - Cunningham, Crozier etc. and not all of these boys came through Derry schools.

We need to be producing this calibre of players year in year out. I still think the standard of coaching we have may fall a wee bit short as I think sometimes you can see in our players a shortcoming with the "fundamentals". You can have certificates till you're blue in the face but I think a lot of the youth certifications are over-rated. I think the standards here can be improved.

We have a problem Derry and Tyrone haven't got so much. Realistically the primary game in Antrim is hurling - this splits attentions and leads to vast areas not playing the big ball game. The point about the attendances at championship games is a valid one however I just don't think we have the numbers in some clubs to generate huge attendances. Cargin aside there are no rural clubs in Antrim with significant playing or member population. In a lot of rural clubs the community revolves round the GAA but there just aren't enough numbers. You have an example of Creggan - Creggan is a small small place, Portglenone has a very small nationalist population, likewise Ahoghill, Ballymena and maybe to a lesser extent Rasharkin. Glenravel is small as is Moneyglass and to be honest I've touched on most of the non city clubs worth talking about in a football sense. The city clubs are another issue altogether. Derry can't really tackle the problem of city clubs. In the city it is harder to maintain interest among youth. You could play St Johns / St Pauls etc. and see a different team each year.  St Galls are different as they are now successful and "success breeds success" and all that.

We have problems in:
- not enough population
- split between football and hurling
- the city ships a lot of players to other sports and other influences.

I do think we are moving forward though but I still believe the standard of youth coaching needs to be improved.  The U21 and minor teams we have are of a much higher standard now than they were about ten years ago. That can only be good. In five or six years time I think we will have a team who would be a good bit better than division 4 status but I think we have a way to go to get there.

The championship is a one off and Derry are no world beaters either especially if you curb Paddy Bradley. Don't think we'll beat Derry but we'll give them a better game than some people think...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 12, 2007, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 11, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim.

Max thats a bit of a rant, sure isnt your mother also from that shit hole of a football county as Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on April 12, 2007, 11:38:10 AM

Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim.
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Away and f**k urself max, we might not be a kerry or dublin but we're proud of who we are and dont need wankers like you on here givin us shit like that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 12, 2007, 11:42:48 AM
firstly...


Quote from: Ethan Edwards on April 12, 2007, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 11, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim.

Max thats a bit of a rant, sure isnt your mother also from that shit hole of a football county as Antrim


tee hee hee, chortle chortle, ha ha ha, guffaw guffaw, arf arf.... etc etc.


Quote from: saffronman on April 12, 2007, 11:38:10 AM
Away and f**k urself max, we might not be a kerry or dublin but we're proud of who we are and dont need wankers like you on here givin us shit like that!

YAHO!!! G'wan the boy ye!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 12, 2007, 01:06:32 PM
Nothing like a good slag to bring the best out of ya  :D, ye fall for it every time.  ;) :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 12, 2007, 03:39:54 PM
Fall for what. You saying our county is shite?
Fall for you constantly coming on here and jibing about the standard of our football...the origin of some of our club players etc etc

That's a good one Max, you had us all hanging there and someone jumped at the bait you cleverly laid out for us???   You're a real wind up merchant...a comedian in fact.

Actually someone didn't wound up they just told you where to go - away and sort out your own mess and we'll try to sort ours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 12, 2007, 05:13:56 PM
Ye know what Glensman, most of the time I do wind people up, because this board for most fo the time is a bit of light relief, but for whats it worth, this point I won't wind you up on. I have been watching Antrim football for years, and with St Galls being the only exception at club football...how long does it take to sort a mess out! It would be great to see Casement full all the time, and with a successful football team, thats exactly what would happen if all the talking was translated into real work at underage level, but its does not happen, your colleges are more successful at soccer than gaelic. If my wind up annoys you and others, well so be it, get off yer ass and do something about it. I have heard all this crap for years, ye have no excuses left, ye have a massive population, We in Derry have not one senior club in Derry city, we have not had a county senior of quality from the city in years, but does it stop us competing year in and out at county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 13, 2007, 04:39:35 PM
We're not making excuses Max at this stage...when is this little section of emails that you decided to wind us all up were we making excuses?

Debate has been had as to players missing (some America bound, some hurling, some other reasons). Debate has been had as to the merits of Jody etc.
As Antrim fans we are entitled to do that with each other - its a discussion board.
There has been no direct talk so far as I am aware of the problems in Belfast with getting the population into the GAA. So your point about the comparison with Derry is null and void. Personally I'd love to see more hurling/gaelic in derry city but you make it very hard for me to firmly believe that.

We know we're crap...some come on and lay it on the line and say we are crap and need to get structures sorted, others have a slightly more romantic view of things in that maybe we can do it...year after year. That is their prerogative.

What we don't need is some outsider coming in and slabbering about people saying "maybe this year guys" in a sarcastic fashion and saying we are from a shithole.

I am proud to be from this shithole and if we could only keep what slight momentum we have going....sigerson players, club in an all ireland final, a sensible manager, large club antrim draws etc...there might be something in it.

So there you have it...you may have wound me up. I only pray we beat you in the CShip.
I am off to drink my first beer of the evening quicker than I would've before writing this email (and get my blood pressure checked)

Have a good weekend boys - up the Antrim teams in the Ulster league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 13, 2007, 04:55:12 PM
Good man Glensman, enjoy yer beer and have a good weekend...for what its worth I would actually like Antrim to have a successful county team, I think that it would really do all us the world of good..so no hard feelings, I just enjoy the craic...but you can expect more slagging...make no mistake ;) :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 14, 2007, 10:04:35 PM
Anyone know all the results from last nights u-21 games??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2007, 10:06:53 PM
From the Antrim Website:

St. Johns  2-6 2-8 Cargin 
Glenravel  0-9 1-6 St. Teresas 
Tir na Nog  0-7 3-16 St. Pauls 
Davitts  3-9 1-12 Creggan Kickhams 
Moneyglass  1-14 1-15 Dunloy 
St. Brigids B 4-17 0-4 Sarsfields 
Ahoghill  3-10 0-5 All Saints
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on April 15, 2007, 06:06:18 PM
any results from todays division 1 and 2 games?
Title: Today's Results
Post by: aontroim on April 15, 2007, 08:53:04 PM
QuoteI take it that the B beside St. Brigids is a mis print on the Antrim website.
No it is short for St. Brigid's Belfast - as there is also St. Brigid's Cloughmills.

Sunday 15th April 2007
Antrim Division 1 Football

Lamh Dhearg  0-9 1-11 Portglenone
Moneyglass  1-14 2-12 St. Johns
St. Galls  3-15 1-0 Dunloy
Gort Na Mona  1-6 1-6 St. Pauls
Creggan Kickhams  2-8 0-13 Cargin ;) The Mickey Moran Factor Slim? What happened?

Antrim Division 2 Football
Glenravel  3-9 1-8 Mc Dermotts
Aghagallon  1-13 3-11 All Saints
Rasharkin  1-16 1-8 Sarsfields
Rossa  1-12 1-9 St. Endas
Davitts  1-6 2-12 St. Brigids B

Antrim Division 3 Football

Tir na Nog  0-9 1-13 Glenavy
Lamh Dhearg 2 0-4 2-16 Ahoghill
St. Galls 2 3-1 0-9 St. Teresas
Ardoyne  3-16 3-7 St. Johns 2

Antrim Division 4 Football

St. Malachys  2-6 0-12 Cargin 3
Rasharkin 2 4-4 2-13 St. Agnes
Rossa 2 0-9 1-15 Eire Og

Antrim Division 5 Football

Sarsfields 2 3-13 2-13 Glenavy 2
Ardoyne 2 1-10 1-11 Davitts 2
Aghagallon 2 0-14 0-7 Antrim
O Donnells  - - Lisburn  O Donnells Not Played
St. Galls 3 2-11 1-9 St. Brigids 2

Antrim Division 6 Football

Portglenone 2 2-10 1-7 Ballycastle
Ahoghill 2 2-9 4-16 Dunloy 2
Creggan Kickhams 2 0-12 0-14 Aldergrove 2
Moneyglass 2 2-9 0-7 Tir na Nog 2
Glenravel 2 0-9 0-5 All Saints 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 16, 2007, 09:35:39 AM
And I look forward to the slagging Max.
The beers went down well.

Some result for Creggan - anyone at it? A report?
Also a great result for Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on April 16, 2007, 09:44:44 AM
I watched a bit of ST Malachy's draw with Cargin yesterday in Cherryvale. The game was brutal. Was that you in the Cargin nets Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 16, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Slim. has the green machine come off the rails already,  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 08:42:43 AM
Green Machine is off the rails, Creggan are now red hot favs for the championship, get your house on them. They outplayed us all over the park and all they need to worry about now is St Galls.

Creggan for championship.

guillem- i wasnt playing in any game at the weekend. that was our 3rd team playing St Mals, we fielded 3 teams on sunday at 3pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 01:38:22 PM
Well Slim what happened... Creggan..after winning the county title last season I am sure ye did not want to lose your first game this season to the foe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 02:05:09 PM
of course we didnt want to lose, we never want to lose and yes, especially to Creggan. Perhaps we underestimated them, i dunno. they played some nice football on that wee pitch of theirs. they'll win there fair share of games and most games in Creggan. however, that said- on a bigger pitch they wont win as many imo.

no excuses though, they beat us fair and square.

and as i said before- they are now 2nd Favs for the Championship- toals have the odds up-

St Galls 6/4
Creggan 2/1
Cargin 3/1
Lamh Dhearg 9/2
St Pauls 6/1
Rasharkin 13/2
Portglenone 50/1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 02:08:47 PM
Would the ports not be a better team than them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 02:12:54 PM
no.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 02:14:57 PM
Have they been under achieving, because they have not been in the shake up for a while?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 02:18:38 PM
its the first time they've beat us in 25 years in a senior game, i shit you not.

the bookies odds is never far away  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on April 17, 2007, 03:09:28 PM
Regarding Creggan under peforming, we were near out of existance during the earily 90's!!!
Struggled to field teams and form a committee. We had a long hard look at the club and since then have really worked hard to build it up.

we are a proud club with a good tradition, but believe it or not slim, Cargin are the benchmark for ourselves in regards to how they they run the club in the past 20 years and with all the set backs keep coming back stronger.

Obviously we don't have the same resources as the Toome men but we still aim to be contenders.

Slim, are you BSh1tting with the odds. I can see Creggan having shorter odds than Cargin or Lamb Dearg. As Cargin are a championship team and this currentl team have ley to establish themselves as championship material
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 03:18:54 PM
I would guess that Slim is bullsh1tting with the odds alright.
They don't even have all the people in the senior championship in there anyway in his list of odds.

Mickey Moran has arguably been exposed as naive in the past on bigger stages that Antrim championships but if he or Creggan think that Sunday's result was anything other than down to cobwebs being blown off by Cargin and Creggan getting a good start on their (as said before) wee pitch then they need their head sorted.

However, its good to see it being competitive with two shock results (in my opinion) portglenone beating Lamh Dearg and Creggan beating Cargin.


Shame to see Dunloy's result v St Galls - they are better than that result. I believe they have a couple of big players not playing this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 17, 2007, 03:31:15 PM

championships between Cargin and St.Galls, thats was obvious before a ball was even kicked!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 17, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
I claim copyright upon my own handle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
Are GNM in the senior championship?

I would put them as better than Portglenone or Rasharkin.

St Brigids - well they will likely be the worst team in it.

Cregann are a good wee side who have very good underage structures in place. They may claim a few scalps this season. In Antrim there are only really two good teams about. There's no reason why Creggan can't be as good as Lamh Dhearg who in my opnion are no world beaters and are very reliant on Cunningham's accuracy from placed balls and St Paul's also. By all accounts GNM could be up around the third best team too. There are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 05:55:26 PM
QuoteThere are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.

St Galls was one, after all they won the Ulster Cub,  who would the other one be? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 18, 2007, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 05:55:26 PM
QuoteThere are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.

St Galls was one, after all they won the Ulster Cub,  who would the other one be? ???

I presume Cargin, although losing to creggan would seem to me that EXCEPTIONAL might be a bit strong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 19, 2007, 08:31:04 AM
Quote from: Ethan Edwards on April 18, 2007, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 05:55:26 PM
QuoteThere are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.

St Galls was one, after all they won the Ulster Cub,  who would the other one be? ???

I persume Cargin, although losing to creggan would seem to me that EXCEPTIONAL might be a bit strong

what does persume mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 19, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
I do apologise for my spelling mistake, which I have since amended, but i didnt know we were back at school, Professor  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 20, 2007, 12:22:09 PM
many people see todays irish news? st pauls applauding gort na mona onto the pitch - whats that nonsense all about?

a few good u21 games on 2nite.. an verdicts? cargin V gort should be a good game and davitts V st galls. can only c both cargin and st galls comin out on top, feel they will have too much talent for them, but they will have to play for their win as gort n davitts will put it up to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 20, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
Where is the Cargin v Gorts match? Is it tonight? What time throw in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 20, 2007, 02:54:59 PM
its tonight, its in Toome, its at 7pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 20, 2007, 03:00:16 PM
All fixtures on the County Website Sports Manager (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?report=1&reporttype=fixtures&sportid=1&club_id=&nextweek=1&countyid=1&contentsportid=1):

I see Owen Quinn is refereeig your game tonight slim.  One of the best upcoming referee's in the county in any game I have seen him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 20, 2007, 03:03:25 PM
indeed, excellent alright. good chap Owen and a good ref, even if he does make a mistake he holds his hands up.

mhic, who is 'the administrator' of the county website? and dont tell me you dont know!! you know the guy who puts a smart comment after every post in the guestbook!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 20, 2007, 03:06:41 PM
It's looked after by a team of people. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 20, 2007, 03:19:45 PM
A team of very "smart" people.

The sarcasm annoys me a bit. Good in certain senses and generally lighthearted but can be condescending enough.
Hope you're not one of them Mhic Easmuint...

Owen Quinn from where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 20, 2007, 03:21:14 PM
I'm not on that team Glensman.
Owen Quinn from Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 20, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
Owen from Rasharkin.

You put it very mildly there glensman, whoever writes the responses are a bundle of arseholes. the simplest of questions gets the comeback of ''CCC's'' and GAC's and ''why dont you join up and do something about it'' etc etc.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 21, 2007, 03:54:42 PM
Was putting it mildly as to cause no offence to anyone on the board here...its pretty much a great service if they toned down the sarcasm/condescending natujre of the replies it would be better.

That's not Owen Quinn as in the fell who was on the county panel a couple of years ago?

Good young referees are what we need. Have played a couple of matches this year with a few elder statesmen in the middle - pretty grim stuff. Thats not to say they don't deserve credit...I wouldn't do it if you paid me.

A few years back as I was the only senior player watching I had to ref a minor club game - one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. Completely lost it - at one point started shouting at some fella who was giving me grief from the crowd, lost the page of the wee diary I was writing the scores in and had to add them up when I eventually found it with about 10 minutes left (while paying full attention to the game of course...) and also forgot to start the watch at the start of the second half (just waited until the team winning's manager started shouting at me to finish it then added on 5 minites).
Doing a couple of things at once was never a forte of mine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 22, 2007, 09:51:47 PM
any reviews on the u21 games? wot happened cargin slim?

goin by the result casements put it up to st galls today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on April 23, 2007, 04:12:39 PM
Seeing as there's no results in todays Irish News, taken from Antrim website

Sunday 22nd April 2007

Antrim Division 1 Football

St. Johns  1-10 2-7 Lamh Dhearg 
Portglenone  2-8 2-10 St. Galls   
Cargin  2-14 1-6 Moneyglass 
St. Pauls  0-7 1-9 Creggan Kickhams   
Dunloy  1-9 1-11 Gort Na Mona 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Shane O Neills  1-18 0-5 Cushendun 

Antrim Division 2 Football

All Saints  1-9 2-9 Rasharkin 
St. Endas  1-8 0-11 St. Brigids B   
Sarsfields  0-6 3-8 Rossa   
Davitts  2-8 3-6 Glenravel 
Mc Dermotts  0-8 2-10 Aghagallon

Antrim Division 3 Football

Ahoghill  0-14 0-5 St. Galls 2 
Glenavy  1-9 1-8 Aldergrove 
St. Teresas  1-6 0-7 Tir na Nog 
St. Johns 2 5-5 0-8 Lamh Dhearg 2
Cargin 2 1-8 2-12 Ardoyne
   
Antrim Division 4 Football

Rasharkin 2 2-11 0-9 St. Malachys
St. Endas 2 0-7 4-12 St. Agnes 
St. Pauls 2 1-11 1-10 Eire Og 
Cargin 3 1-14 2-7 Rossa 2
 
Antrim Division 5 Football

Antrim  0-7 1-7 Ardoyne 2 Antrim 
St. Galls 3 0-5 0-10 Aghagallon 2
Davitts 2 0-11 0-10 O Donnells
Glenavy 2 1-11 1-9 St. Brigids 2   
Sarsfields 2 2-18 1-10 Mitchels 

Antrim Division 6 Football

Portglenone 2 2-12 0-7 All Saints 2   
Aldergrove 2 - - Tir na Nog 2 Aldergrove Not Played
Creggan Kickhams 2 2-8 3-8 Glenravel 2
Dunloy 2 3-9 0-6 Moneyglass 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2007, 04:20:25 PM
Good win for Creggan.

Division 2 looks like it could be tight enough. The malone roaders maybe won't find they'll go through this division as handily as the other ones if they're drawing with St. Enda's.

Back to normality for Cargin. Portglenone must have gave St Galls their fill of it. Seems they've started ok.I thought they were going downhill -perhaps not.

Wouldn't have expected Ballymena to run Rasharkin so close either. Maybe the Logan's will have a big influence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 23, 2007, 07:04:14 PM
You're awful anti the Malone roaders imtommygunn!
Rossa, Glenravel and Rasharkin should be clear favourites for Div 2 anyway.
Bit too much of a step up for the Malone roaders this year maybe.

Any reports from the Portglenone St Galls match? Milltown Row?

The Logan's must have a big influence on any team...all good footballers. Ballymena beat Portglenone there a couple of weeks agp..admittedly both might not have been at full strengthe but not bad going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 27, 2007, 01:32:47 PM
My Prediction for this weekend

Creggan Kickhams   v    Dunloy   , Creggan to Win Easily
St. Johns               V   Cargin     , Cargin but it will be close
Lamh Dhearg          V   St. Galls   St Galls to win Easily
Moneyglass             V   St. Pauls  St Pauls but it will be close
Gort Na Mona         V   Portglenone  Portglenone but it will be close

Anyone got any other views
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
GNM to beat Portglenone and Creggan Dunloy to be a lot tighter than people might think...

All others I would agree with.

Moneyglass and St Pauls have a bit of history so would expect that to be close and involve a few handbags!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2007, 02:07:30 PM
was not at the Ports game, running three senior teams needs a big squad, i was playing for the thirds. but i heard they stole the game with a last minute goal. tough game but still seniors are without a lot of regulars.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 27, 2007, 03:27:34 PM
Very quiet thread recently, no scandals or nothin goin on!

Question for the city slickers! Hows your end of the Feile Peile getting on?

Were there any games played this week?




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 27, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
I see the U21 is well under way, with the 1/4 finals on tonight. I played sevens last Thursday, first time I'd kicked a ball since the previous 1/4 final last August! Anyone know when the semis and final are scheduled for? Would love to get back in time for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 30, 2007, 11:00:36 AM
My predictions were spot on last week, should've done it in the bookies, anyway this weeks games will be tougher to forecast


Dunloy                 V      Moneyglass     - Moneyglass buy a pt
Creggan Kickhams  V      Portglenone   - Creggan Buy A Couple
St. Galls               V       Gort Na Mona - St Galls easily
St. Pauls              V       St. Johns       - Draw
Cargin                  V      Lamh Dhearg  - Cargin Easily

what do yous think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 30, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
you were correct on the result of our game but it sure wasnt close. St Johns are a poor team this year.

Antrim are very lucky not to have lost their Captain for the championship, Closie was taken away in an ambulance after a hefty (and very dirty) knock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 30, 2007, 11:12:05 AM
After our game with Gort na Mona yesterday I'm wondering how Mickey Pollock never made the County U21 squad this year, he was scoring from all angles from both feet. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2007, 11:13:30 AM
St. Johns have been on the way down for a few years. They seem to be relying on the u21s and they didn't get past the first round so can't be that good.

Creggan gave Dunloy some whipping - what is going on with Dunloy?? Have they lost many from last year?

The u21s seems to be run off on a weekly basis gallsman. Could be finished by next week. They've even done replays mid week and still the winners have played on the friday night.

It's throwing up some interesting results although there isn't too much south west interest in it unfortunately! I'd expect it to be between gorts and galls although brigids with Loughrey on board might be one to watch.(Hope I'm wrong and Dunloy win though but canny see it)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 30, 2007, 11:18:48 AM
I heard the Close took a bad slap, I cant understand a players mentality that wants him to rite another player off, was the perpetrator red carded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 30, 2007, 01:31:23 PM
no, bizarrely Donal McKeever was the only man booked over the incident even though he never lifted a hand to anyone.

The ref never even gave a foul-it was a very nasty slap and could have been very serious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 30, 2007, 05:25:49 PM
Anyone post up the Antrim football results from the weekend? All divisions?

I can't get access to the fixtures/results bit of the Antrim website at work.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 30, 2007, 05:28:40 PM
Sunday 29th April 2007
Antrim Division 1 Hurling

Ballycastle  2-6 3-7 Loughgiel Shamrocks  Ballycastle 
Portaferry  1-11 0-13 Ballycran  Portaferry 
Cushendall  3-11 2-14 Ballygalget  Cushendall 

Antrim Division 1 Football

St. Johns  0-5 0-19 Cargin  Corrigan Park 
Lamh Dhearg  0-8 1-9 St. Galls  Lamh Dhearg 
Moneyglass  0-11 3-7 St. Pauls  Moneyglass 
Gort Na Mona  0-16 4-10 Portglenone  Gort Na Mona 

Antrim Division 1 Reserve Hurling

Ballycastle  1-7 2-9 Loughgiel Shamrocks  Ballycastle 
Portaferry  4-13 1-9 Ballycran  Portaferry 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Armoy  0-12 0-18 Carey Faughs  Armoy 

Antrim Division 2 Football

Aghagallon  0-9 0-11 Rasharkin  Rasharkin 
St. Endas  1-9 2-4 Glenravel  St. Endas 
Sarsfields  0-8 2-9 Davitts  Sarfields 
All Saints  2-8 2-12 St. Brigids B All Saints 
Mc Dermotts  0-5 0-11 Rossa  Cherryvale 

Antrim Division 3 Football

Tir na Nog  3-14 0-8 Ahoghill  Tir na Nog 
Aldergrove  1-4 1-6 St. Teresas  Aldergrove 
Ardoyne  1-14 5-8 Glenavy  Mallusk 
St. Johns 2 2-8 2-6 Cargin 2 Corrigan Park 
Lamh Dhearg 2 0-8 0-6 St. Galls 2 Lamh Dhearg

Antrim Division 4 Football

Rossa 2 2-7 0-14 Rasharkin 2 Rossa 
Gort Na Mona 2 1-10 0-5 Eire Og  Gort Na Mona 
St. Endas 2 1-14 0-8 St. Malachys  St. Endas 
St. Pauls 2 0-8 0-5 Cargin 3 St. Pauls 

Antrim Division 5 Football

Aghagallon 2 0-5 1-15 Glenavy 2 Aghagallon 
Lisburn  1-4 2-13 Davitts 2 Lisburn 
Ardoyne 2 1-5 2-11 St. Galls 3 Falls Park 
St. Brigids 2 0-17 1-5 Mitchels  Falls Park

Antrim Division 6 Football

Ahoghill 2 - - All Saints 2 Ahoghill Not Played
Glenravel 2 0-10 1-6 Aldergrove 2 Glenravel 
Creggan Kickhams 2 0-9 0-9 Portglenone 2 Creggan Kickhams 
Tir na Nog 2 0-1 3-16 Dunloy 2 Tir na Nog 

Saturday 28th April 2007

Antrim Division 1 Football

Creggan Kickhams  2-22 1-7 Dunloy  Creggan Kickhams 

Antrim Division 6 Football

Moneyglass 2 0-11 1-11 Ballycastle  Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 30, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
Cheers Mhic Easmuint. Some result again for you boys. You're on a bit of a roll.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 01, 2007, 02:04:49 PM
i have been to a few antrim games this year and have saw paul doherty play a few games in various positions, mainly in defence.he seems nailed on 2 start against derry.then was on the ulster colleges website and saw he got a college allstar at full forward,could he possibly be on the edge of the square against derry.antrim seem to have a nippy full forward line of mcgourty,close and cunningham but no real ball winner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 01, 2007, 02:08:34 PM
im playing my cards very close to my chest charlie, roll on the 3rd june!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2007, 02:20:41 PM
He's full back some days, wing half forward the next, centre half back the next so your guess is as good as ours!!

I'd say the chances are slim that he'll be at full forward though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 01, 2007, 02:26:28 PM
id say delargy would find a gud position for him i wonder how he gets such gud jobs hes useless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2007, 02:40:38 PM
what's delargy got to do with anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 01, 2007, 02:51:17 PM
was thinkin that myself, plus them ulster colleges allstars mean nout!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 01, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
You on the panel PlaywiththeWind?

The mood good in there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 01, 2007, 04:47:17 PM
couldnt give such information away with my identity, but i can tell you that the mood in the camp is good and june 3rd cant come quick enough!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 02, 2007, 10:05:22 AM
Who won the two south Antrim feile matches semi-final matches last night. When/where is the final?

Glad to hear the mood in the camp is good, PWTW. Good luck big yin!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 02, 2007, 12:04:22 PM
S. Antrim Féile Final is St. John's v Davitt's - Johnnies had a midfielder sent off for striking - not sure if that rules him out of just next game or county final also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 02, 2007, 12:55:19 PM
any minor results from lastnite?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 03, 2007, 09:57:07 AM
Thanks Aontroim.

Whats the rules for striking at juvenile level. Surely a straight red for striking means a minimum of one month, regardless of when the south antrim or all county feile final is played?

Finally, is there a date set yet for the all county final, or a venue for that matter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 04, 2007, 08:40:39 AM
Paddy Cunningham out of the game against his native county I believe.  Operation to mend broken bone in his hand not as successful as initally hoped.  Will make it that wee bit more difficult for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on May 04, 2007, 04:21:35 PM
a quick look at the recent posts by Shaws Road pretty much confirms his identity, some ingenious comments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 04, 2007, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 04, 2007, 02:26:13 PM
Does anyone think Conor Mc Gourty would be a good replacement? He's a similar type of player to Cunningham, fast and wins a lot of frees and is good at taking them too. Would he be out of his depth?

Paddy is not fast, far from it! if McGourty is out of his depth, then he shouldnt be in the squad for selection
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 04, 2007, 04:35:22 PM
There's a small mention on the Antrim page of today;s Gaelic Life that CJ has picked up a slight knee ligament injury which will keep him out for around a month, any truth to this? Is Cunningham definitely out? Would love to see a shock here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 04, 2007, 04:59:20 PM
For further information regarding QUB Student Sports Clubs contact either Kevin McGourty, the Vice-President for Clubs and Services, (Students' Union Tel: 90973106, su.vpcs@qub.ac.uk)  good man Kevin(shaws road)
well spotted hardstation!

Conor is fine, Hands looks to be out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on May 04, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
jesus that McGourty man really is a p***k!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 04, 2007, 09:00:37 PM
CJ wasn't out of his depth against Tipperary! He may be young and still a bit small, but he has more talent than the rest of the forwards in the Antrim squad combined!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 04, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
I wouldn't even dare and suggest it, nor would I try and suggest he'll be scoring 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever he got. However, what we're dealing with hear is picking the six best forwards in Antrim to represent us, and that certainly includes CJ, regardless of the opposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 04, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
I wouldn't even dare and suggest it, nor would I try and suggest he'll be scoring 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever he got. However, what we're dealing with hear is picking the six best forwards in Antrim to represent us, and that certainly includes CJ, regardless of the opposition.

good to have you back mc ardle

Its not about picking the best six forwards in the county, its about picking the right forwards (players) to win that game. Young mcgourty is in with a strong chance of starting. Has he not given any clues away to you Gallsman?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on May 05, 2007, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: saffronman on May 04, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
jesus that McGourty man really is a p***k!

One of the biggest you will meet, and that is from a few of the St Galls lads......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 05, 2007, 02:44:36 PM

St. Brigids B 2-11 1-14 St. Galls  Corrigan Park Extra Time if Reqd.


did this game go to extra time? st brigids must have played well? any reports?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on May 05, 2007, 03:36:30 PM
Just out of interest. How many Belfast teams are there playing football In Antrim and what areas are they from? I know St Brigids are Malone Road, St Malachy's are Lower Ormeau/Short Strand and Eire Og are Derriaghy. What about the rest?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 03:59:37 PM
beat me to it hardstation.

maybe this can help you out too http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=779782&t=k&om=1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 06, 2007, 01:37:10 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 04, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
I wouldn't even dare and suggest it, nor would I try and suggest he'll be scoring 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever he got. However, what we're dealing with hear is picking the six best forwards in Antrim to represent us, and that certainly includes CJ, regardless of the opposition.

good to have you back mc ardle

Its not about picking the best six forwards in the county, its about picking the right forwards (players) to win that game. Young mcgourty is in with a strong chance of starting. Has he not given any clues away to you Gallsman?

I'm studying in Dublin and a bit out of the loop (and condition!) at this stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 06, 2007, 06:23:30 PM
Creggan Kickhams  0-9 0-8 Portglenone   
St. Galls  - - Gort Na Mona  St. Galls         Not Played
St. Pauls  2-11 1-6 St. Johns 
Cargin  - - Lamh Dhearg  Cargin               Not Played

Glenravel  1-5 0-5 Aghagallon
Sarsfields  0-8 1-6 St. Brigids B   
Rossa  0-7 1-6 All Saints   
Davitts  1-6 1-11 St. Endas   

Aldergrove  3-10 1-5 Ahoghill   
Glenavy  0-14 0-10 St. Johns 2 
St. Teresas  0-5 0-4 Ardoyne   
St. Galls 2 0-6 0-12 Tir na Nog   
Cargin 2 1-13 0-7 Lamh Dhearg 2


why were 2 matches not played? especially when their reserve teams played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 07, 2007, 07:59:02 PM
Maybe the 2 matches wernt played due to the monsoon

Im sure the monsoon beat a few teams yesterday!

Creggan are stil goin well in div 1?

any reports on games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 08, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
the "monsoon" didnt effect the reserve games?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 08, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
i hear the footballers are to play London this weekend, somewhere in the city. anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tbrick18 on May 08, 2007, 01:16:08 PM
Is it true Joe Brolly is helping out with the Antrim senior team?
If so what do you Antrim boys think of it? Do you think he brings anything useful to the table?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 08, 2007, 02:01:11 PM
Playwiththewind..are you sure it's not the hurlers against London inthe Ulster Championship?? Maybe I'm wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 08, 2007, 02:06:52 PM
i think both codes might be playing.. goin by what i heard!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2007, 02:20:30 PM
antrim did play london this weekend in the football

team was:
1.mcgreevy
2.brady
3.mc veigh
4. oboyle
5.mcgoldrick
6. croizer
7. carlin
8.martin
9.mccann
10.gallagher
11.niblock
12.p.close
13.rae
14.mcgourty
15.c.close

finally score was 0.17 to 0.9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 03:04:01 PM
Interesting team - who would be to come back onto that team yet?

Very young half back line - I assume Carlin is the St Paul's Carlin? We could also do with a bit more in the half forward line - suppose it all depends on who's left to come into the team.

Good to see young O'Boyle back though - probably the best man marker in the county from what I can see.

I see someone else had a seperate post - Cargin 0-17 St Pauls 0-1 . That's an awful hammering. Still I suppose at least St Pauls kept a clean sheet...

Very young tem in general but it's good to build for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 14, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
Anyone up at the feile final yesterday at Gort Na Nona, between Davitts and Sean Stinsons? Both teams were very highly rated, with Davitts apparently beating St Galls in the league by 20 points, and as Belfast champions, were well fancied. Sean Stinsons unbeaten in their age group since under ten, all county winners two years ago at under twelve.

Great advertisement for under age football in Antrim. Davitts well in control first fifteen minutes, but missed a lot of good scoring chances. Stinsons had four scoring chances in the first half, and scored 2.02. Davits had only managed 0.05. How Stinsons were ahead at half time was a near miracle, but with the wind, and down hill in the second half there was only going to be one winner.

Stinsons scored 1.07 to 0.01 in the second period to win in the end by 3.09 to 0.06, twelve points not a fair reflection in a great game between two excellent sides. Stinsons unbeaten run continues for another while!

Good luck to Stinsons in the last weekend of June, at the feile to be held in Carrick on Shannon, Co Leitrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2007, 04:56:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 03:04:01 PM
Interesting team - who would be to come back onto that team yet?

Very young half back line - I assume Carlin is the St Paul's Carlin? We could also do with a bit more in the half forward line - suppose it all depends on who's left to come into the team.

oboyle lasted 10mins, not to sure what happened him.
yes, liam carlin from st paul, big lad with huge commitment not sure about his football ability for county level.

cunnigham, bell, brady, loughray, scullion, quinn and more are all to come into that team. im sure atleast 3 of them 6 will start come 3rd june.
still not convinced about niblock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 05:19:12 PM
That's not so bad then. A good few of those could strengthen up the half forward line.

To be honest I wouldn't put Kevin Niblock in St Galls best 15 never mind Antrim's.

Cunningham, Quinn, Brady,Scullion and I'd say maybe Loughrey should start in the c'ship which is a brave few.

Haven't seen much of Carlin so not sure what he's like but looking at that team the biggest changes I would see(or would like to see) would be to HB and HF lines.

Where's Doherty from Rasharkin at? He still on the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 05:36:50 PM
I see Owen Quinn is the ref. for the u21 football final.

Fair play - must be doing well for someone so young.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 14, 2007, 05:49:28 PM
doherty got 13 stitches to aneye wound in a club game recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 15, 2007, 10:13:20 AM
Reference Owen Quinn. Definitely the best referee I have seen for a long time. Common sense approach and liked by the players as well. Has a big future in refereeing if he sticks at it. Lets the game flow, and dosent try to be the centre of attention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 15, 2007, 12:31:08 PM
doc was playin a club game against mcdermotts and got a clip round the eye

u21 final- friday nite 7pm at casmement??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 15, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
Wonder will the u-21 management be at the u-21 final, and when its over, will they be big enough to turn round and say that they seriously cocked up over their rating of Michael Pollock.

Saw the guy in a senior league game a few weeks ago, and he looked in a different class, despite quite a few recent past and present county players. How the fcuk he was overlooked by Mister O`Pray and co is beyond me, and quite a few others I have to say.

Just wonder will he have the balls to own up to a serious misjudgement. And to think that some of last years management didnt rate Crozier either, it really makes you think that some selectors really do have their own (club) agendas.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 16, 2007, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: johnjoe on May 15, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
Wonder will the u-21 management be at the u-21 final, and when its over, will they be big enough to turn round and say that they seriously cocked up over their rating of Michael Pollock.

Saw the guy in a senior league game a few weeks ago, and he looked in a different class, despite quite a few recent past and present county players. How the fcuk he was overlooked by Mister O`Pray and co is beyond me, and quite a few others I have to say.

Just wonder will he have the balls to own up to a serious misjudgement. And to think that some of last years management didnt rate Crozier either, it really makes you think that some selectors really do have their own (club) agendas.



I think you'll find that Crozier was indeed very highly rated. As he was still a minor, they had first call on him, and O'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 16, 2007, 09:22:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 16, 2007, 12:24:31 AM
QuoteO'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Which game was this?
Pollock must have been gutted. He wasn't even picked for the bench. To think of the players he had (especially from his own club) instead of Pollock is laughable. What was he at?

I don't know exactly who the opposition were, but it was same game that CJ missed due to La Salle playing in the All-Ireland B Final against Tubbercurry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2007, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: gallsman on May 16, 2007, 09:22:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 16, 2007, 12:24:31 AM
QuoteO'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Which game was this?
Pollock must have been gutted. He wasn't even picked for the bench. To think of the players he had (especially from his own club) instead of Pollock is laughable. What was he at?

I don't know exactly who the opposition were, but it was same game that CJ missed due to La Salle playing in the All-Ireland B Final against Tubbercurry.

Crozier and McGourty played for Antrim minors in a whack-fuckery Ulster Minor league game against Derry, when they should have been playing against Tyrone in the under-21 championship. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 16, 2007, 11:07:18 AM
Sam 2, nearly, but not true. CJ played for La Salle in the All-Ireland B colleges semi-final, and scored 4-6. He chose to play for the school, and that was his call. There was a big push at La Salle for a national title, but they ended up well beaten in the final!

The Crozier thing well debated here, although the whole truth has never surfaced.

There were many participants to the sorry saga, and unfortunately it involved a sad tale of events that has never surfaced. I could write a book about it, but its over a year ago, and is old news now. Except to say that in-explicable bungling at the highest level, pure nepotism, egotism, and worst of all, sheer non rating of a player as good as Crozier, resulted in the throwing away of a great chance to win an all-Ireland football title.

Imagine a forward line with Crozier at 12, and either CJ or Pollock at 15. Instead we got Gribbon(St Galls) and Meade(St Johns).
Gribbon and Meade both taken off early in the game!

Less than 6 months later, CJ and Crozier make senior county debuts. Meade and Gribbon struggle to make their club teams!

Point made.

No big deal, sure that happens all the time in Antrim. NOT.

(Dont get me started)



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2007, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on May 16, 2007, 11:07:18 AM
Sam 2, nearly, but not true. CJ played for La Salle in the All-Ireland B colleges semi-final, and scored 4-6. He chose to play for the school, and that was his call. There was a big push at La Salle for a national title, but they ended up well beaten in the final!

The Crozier thing well debated here, although the whole truth has never surfaced.

There were many participants to the sorry saga, and unfortunately it involved a sad tale of events that has never surfaced. I could write a book about it, but its over a year ago, and is old news now. Except to say that in-explicable bungling at the highest level, pure nepotism, egotism, and worst of all, sheer non rating of a player as good as Crozier, resulted in the throwing away of a great chance to win an all-Ireland football title.

Imagine a forward line with Crozier at 12, and either CJ or Pollock at 15. Instead we got Gribbon(St Galls) and Meade(St Johns).
Gribbon and Meade both taken off early in the game!

Less than 6 months later, CJ and Crozier make senior county debuts. Meade and Gribbon struggle to make their club teams!

Point made.

No big deal, sure that happens all the time in Antrim. NOT.

(Dont get me started)





Apologies, you're right.  No real choice between school and county for McGourty, though he wouldn't have been allowed to play (by the minor management) regardless of availability.

Both Crozier and Pollock started in the first round against Fermanagh, but were replaced by Meade and Conor McCartan during that game.  At least one of those two is the worst inter-county footballer I have ever seen.  That team certainly had the best chance of an All-Ireland for Antrim in recent times but other things intervened.

My opinions on this are well known - as you say, don't get me started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on May 16, 2007, 12:33:52 PM
hi johnjoe, ur surname wudnt be mcdoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowell, wud it be ye boy ye.

i know you's in portglenyin are behind the times, i take it u have just recently watched borat, pause,  NOT! ;D

sean stinkins had a good win on sunday in the feile, all the best in all-irelands.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2007, 01:21:39 PM
By all accounts your man Pollock is almost unmarkable this year though I've not seen him. The u21 setup this year really was proved to be a bit of a joke when the team with the a good bulk the squad got dumped out in the preliminary.I think there were players from last year, good players, who weren't played this year too.

Still - hopefully someone will notice this and they'll not get another chance.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 16, 2007, 02:00:11 PM

going by what i heard, Pollock didnt give his all in training as he thught he was a sure starter. also, ive heard he's a bit greedy!
but thats all over with now. app the minors are gettin on rightly?

who will manage the u21's next yr? it would be the year were o'prey can pick from both minor squards he took, will he get the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2007, 03:42:10 PM
Apparently they beat Galway by 5 points in a friendly.

Not sure who their stars are but I think most of the team would be from Belfast - I think one of the schools,can't mind which, did well in the McLarnon. I know of one Dunloy and one Stinsons too.

Who knows about management. Maybe your man O'Prey will be able to take that minor team right through. Two have already even made it into senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2007, 11:55:57 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Yash Armstrong of Rossa fame is playing for their senior team, at the age of 51?

I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 17, 2007, 10:15:03 AM
Going by a small snippet in todays Irish News, our under 16`s did well at a recent inter county tournament, losing to Armagh by one point, and beating Tyrone, Derry, and Fermanagh.

Well done to all concerned.I`ve seen a few under age games recently, and I can say for certain there is a much, much better type of young player coming through the system. the skill levels are much higher too.

If Antrim can beat Derry, it would give the county a massive lift. In fact, if our minors beat Derry, I might even be persuaded to think that O Prey has something about him, but at the minute the jury is still out!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 17, 2007, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 16, 2007, 11:55:57 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Yash Armstrong of Rossa fame is playing for their senior team, at the age of 51?

I wouldn't be surprised.

he looks as young as you Shane
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 17, 2007, 02:46:07 PM
Anyone know if there are senior football matches next Wednesday as in the 23rd?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2007, 02:56:51 PM
It's hurling on next wednesday. The football seems to be on this weekend - mostly on Sunday.

Check out the county web-site fixtures.

http://antrim.gaa.ie (http://antrim.gaa.ie)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 17, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
That round of hurling fixtures was in there before the Ulster Hurling Final was moved to next weekend - i can see these fixtures being pulled - well Div 1 anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on May 17, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
Div 1 and 2 Football is on this saturady and then a 3 week gap to 10th June
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 17, 2007, 06:01:16 PM
Cheers NICSSA...I may come on here asking for fixtures during work time...sorry. I can get the antrim website but the fixtures section is banned for some reason.

Good result for you boys v Rasharkin NICSSA...things coming together for you guys? Rasharkin play badly?

Real shame about Paul Doc's injury - any news on whether he'll be back for the county.
Must have been some dirty fecker for McDermotts to do that to Paul Doc...civil fella.
The ignorance of some people gets to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on May 18, 2007, 08:30:22 AM
Threw it away Glensman, it's probably the best we've played all year. All Rasharkins scores came from frees , their last one with the last kick of the game. Div 2 is a close league at present with only 2 points between the top 5 teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on May 18, 2007, 09:48:05 AM
NICCSA maybe if you's learnt how to tackle properly you wudnt give away as many frees! ::) ;)

maybe u shud be playing in defence! ;)

every time rasharkin got near the posts you's chopped them down, only saying lak.

and dont come with the ref was crap because he was as bad for both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 10:30:35 AM
Went into our official county website just there, for the first time in a while, for a browse.

The main action seems to feature around the corporate raceday, and the Saffron Sweep Draw.

I cant believe that seven or eight clubs have made no contribution at all to the Saffron Sweep. Most clubs will finish up in the region of 20 - 40 tickets sold, and this represents some kind of reasonable/decent effort.

The Cushendun contribution of 173 sales is a tremendous achievement for such a small parish, and shows what can be done.

The clubs with no sales at all sicken the life out of me. There are no excuses at all for this, so if one of these is your club, dont even try to pass it off as anything less than a disgrace.

There is an onus on us all to improve our national standing and put some pride back into our county. This is the first venture of its kind, for many years, so get out and get your tickets sold. Stop the rot.

I know it wont happen, but clubs with less than a certain quota sold, say 10 minimum, should not be allowed to compete in next years c`ships, or some penalty that reflects their total disrespect for officialdom.

Any other opinions on this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 11:07:58 AM
I agree that more should be done, however it is not the business of the county board to be telling people exactly who has sold what. That will simply lead to bickering, name calling and downright idiotic ideas likr the one mentioned above.

No disrespect intended at all johnhoe, I just think it's lunacy to be threatening people with championship expulsion based on ticket sales. Completely against the ethos of the GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 18, 2007, 11:14:45 AM
Sorry Johnjoe but that is a stupid suggestion. Barring clubs from the Championship for not selling tickets...come on.

It is a super initiative and some clubs have clearly embraced it more than others but to stop championship for it?!
Where clubs have had gala dinners, been fundraising solid for the last number of years it is sometimes wise to take a step back. How that shows a TOTAL DISRESPECT FOR OFFICIALDOM I'm not sure.

A stern call from the county chairman would suffice. Regardless of the merits of him in his role a call from him might see some action being started. Not much point in a club getting on the wrong side of him.

Rewards for the most sales are fair enough I reckon.

What else "sickens the life" out of you then? Just so that I know what we are dealing with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 18, 2007, 11:15:48 AM
I think the ticket sales look poor, they were 750-800 sales reported to the county board last week, and with a target of 2000 sales it doesnt look too rosey. heres hoping alot of sales simply havent been reported to the county board, and there is a big push in the coming 2wks and hopefully the draw will end in a sucess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AM
Gallsman, Im all for name and shame. Personally I think the clubs who have treated this major fundraising initiative with total disrespect should be hung out to dry.

Examine the background.

A new county chairman goes about the business of bringing Co Antrim Gaa into 21st century. He instigates a full review of what Antrim is doing wrong. Every aspect of County activity is included, finance, dev squads, schools, proper coaching, cultural, clubs, etc,etc. It is all inclusive. Its everyones big opportunity to agree a roadmap/business plan for the future.

The end result (the Antrim Strategic Plan) is the best piece of collective administrative work probably ever carried out. It is a roadmap designed to put Antrim GAA on the map. At its launch, Michael Greenan and Nuicky Brennan describe it as the best of its kind.

The plan calls out for greater finance to put together the first phase of the strategy - the short term priorities. We are on our way!!!

All it requires is a committment from ALL clubs, to do a BIT each( sell 20 tickets minimum). Some clube exceed this, embrace it fully, get stuck into making Antrim better.  Other clubs give it the one fingered salute!!!

The way I see it is this is the best chance we are ever going to get, to put our house in order. If Mc Sparran loses his motivation, his drive, as so many have before him, due to APATHY FROM CLUBS, then we will never see an All - Ireland title in our lifetime. Thats my honest assessment, and I firmly believe it.

If this initiative fails, who is going to take on the mantle of delivering the next one? We must not fall at the first fence.

Wouldnt it be a real pity if the poor clubs were exposed. My arse!

Time for some clubs to get their finger out, thats what I say. We`ve been hearing the excuses for too long.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 18, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
John Joe...for once I am in total agreement with ye...if the grass roots cannot support what is clearly a new drive to improve Antrims where withall...they need bad manners. Put up or put out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 11:57:17 AM
Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion. However, from my own point of view, considering the amount of petty pickering that goes on between almost every club in the Antrim scene, naming and shaming is not the way forward. It simply reveals the number of sales, not the effort on the clubs' behalf to encourage those sales.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 18, 2007, 12:02:56 PM
Rather than penalise the clubs who sell none, surely some sort of incentive would work much better.  For example it clubs knew that anything from £20 - £50 for each ticket sold was going back into their coffers, then sales would certainly increase. Or if there was a reward for the clubs selling the laregst number of tickets per club member this might help.

I also heard of one club who employed a person to sell enough tickets to cover all the prizes and his commission with club members also selling tickets. If he didn't hit the target, he didn't get the money - the club were guaranteed not to lose any money.

Quote from: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AM

The end result (the Antrim Strategic Plan) is the best piece of collective administrative work probably ever carried out. It is a roadmap designed to put Antrim GAA on the map. At its launch, Michael Greenan and Nuicky Brennan describe it as the best of its kind.
And Greenan afer all, though not always right, is seldom wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 12:04:16 PM
Was just readind the totals there, and there's a c**k up in the spreadsheet. Excel even says the formula is inconsistent. Who would be responsible for drawing up these things?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 18, 2007, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 11:07:58 AM
I agree that more should be done, however it is not the business of the county board to be telling people exactly who has sold what. That will simply lead to bickering, name calling and downright idiotic ideas likr the one mentioned above.

I think it is EXACTLY the county board's business to provide information on ticket sales gallsman - I for one really doubt that the info is currently accurate and am sure the larger clubs will indeed have decent figures of sales at the end, but it is a catalyst for the ordinary club member to see what is or isn't happening in their club and do something about it.  I am aware of members who weren't even told by their club tickets were available from clubs and were only informed by seeing for themselves the stark reality of the figures on the website - showeing exactly the effort some clubs are going to in promoting this.

One example i know of a severe conflict of interest is St. Comgall's Antrim - they are currently selling £20 tickets for their own development draw around the county and further afield, but they can still manage to sell sweep tickets at the same time - so really there should be no excuse for other clubs.

Have also heard now that All-Ireland ticket allocation may be based on Sweep ticket sales! Ballsy if they go through with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 12:42:15 PM
Some interesting views. Ok, I know its totally unrealistic to throw clubs out of c`ships, and better to add incentives to sell v punishments for not. quite like the idea of with-holding all ireland finals tickets for clubs who dont hit their quotas, per rata, etc.

I was told Claudy Gac, a small club in North Derry, sold 80 tables for their corporate raceday, AND 2000 tickets for their own club draw at £100 each.

Kind of puts it into perspective, dosent it!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
I think Sam's idea of giving a small percentage of the ticket sale to the clubs is an excellent one.

A lot of it I think is down to success as well. I think if, for example, we had a draw in 1989 we would have sold significantly more tickets than we do now. If you did a draw like this in Armagh / Tyrone at the minute you would rake in the money. However if you had done it in Armagh 10 years ago it would not have been remotely as successful. Those people think like if I give this money it'll help us win Sam again. With Antrim at the minute obviously the mindset is different and it's win a game...

The name and shame I think is an excellent idea though. It's important everyone puts the effort in. I would go one step further and show the number of members per club and have a "ratio"/percentage or something of that effect. Numbers are all well and good but you would expect larger clubs to sell larger amounts etc.

This draw is a great idea and an excellent starting point. I think seeing benefit is something that is maybe a problem for a lot of people. I have no doubt that this money will be put to good use. However like I say a lot of people's mentality is what will this get me? Will we win the all ireland? It's a good starting point and such things will get better in time bu we also need time for people to buy into it. A wee bit of money to clubs would perhaps give people "visible" benefit which might help. It's hard to know. It's one which has provoked a lot of debate and most people are quite negative which is unfortunate.

I would also question Max about whether he thinks such a draw would be a huge success in Derry? I don't know if it would...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd on May 18, 2007, 09:40:11 PM
How did Under 21 final go tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PrivatePile on May 19, 2007, 11:05:32 AM
Is the CJ hype machine starting to die down? i watched him the other night hurling against Glenariffe and he was atrocious, his mouth was pretty active though, that aspect has got him in trouble before...Reference- Gavin Bell !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 21, 2007, 11:41:14 AM
No matter what O Prey ever does with the county, he will always be associated with the Crozier and Pollock episodes. Oh yes, and the total game plan(no plan B) in last years Ulster minor final, around a player who had a serious chest infection, couldnt run, got sick, won a few balls and kicked them wide,  didnt play ball to man in much better position three times, got sick again, gets taken off, his side make a comeback, CJ (planA) gets thrown back in again last fifteen, and team end up with nothing except a ten point defeat, and a harsh lesson that you dont build your dreams around one player, especially one who should be lying at home in his bed.

Grim stuff indeed.

Now the man might be a good organiser, and a businessman etc, but what can ANYONE tell me is/was his football CV.
Who did he play for, coach, what level coaching(level 2). Does he know a good footballer if he sees one. Has he any tactical awareness, etc. Maybe I have a slanted view, but that has been shaped by last years Croke park fiasco,(yes it was a good achievement to get there) and the Crozier and Pollock episodes.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 21, 2007, 03:36:07 PM
less than 2weeks to go.....

any predictions on team line-out? any news?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 21, 2007, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 21, 2007, 03:36:07 PM
less than 2weeks to go.....

any predictions on team line-out? any news?

pwtw i thought you were fairly close to the setup - should the news not be coming from yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 21, 2007, 04:05:46 PM
im just trying to find out what people think!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2007, 05:14:26 PM
I think(and hope) that this match will be a lot tighter than a lot of people reckon. Hopefully Mr. Brolly will be giving some good advice.

Paddy "Hands" Cunningham should be back for Antrim by all accounts which would be a big boost especially with the unavailabilty of Kevin McGuckin. I would also anticipate a few younger boys to start - Loughrey, Crozier and even possibly young O'Boyle at corner back. I wonder who'll be full back. Would McVeigh fit the bill?

Hopefully Joe Quinn will be in there and give some physical presence. Close and Cunningham in the forward line are a bit small so I'm hopefully they'll have a big man in there to help them out and like other people have alluded to before I'd not have Kevin Niblock near the team... McGourty as an impact sub. too.

Derry , without Bradley, should lack real potency in attack. If Muldoon can be denied goal chances in there I don't think they have forwards capable of hitting 3/4 points in a game and if they can stifle Gilligan they should cut off any good supply. Have yet to see Lynch do anything of real merit at intercounty level - hopefully I won't eat those words!

Optimistically - Antrim by two...



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 22, 2007, 05:10:07 PM
any thoughts on the starting line-up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: southderryman on May 22, 2007, 06:00:19 PM

just dropping in to see your opinions on the forthcoming championship game.

Quote from: imtommygunn on May 21, 2007, 05:14:26 PM

Derry , without Bradley, should lack real potency in attack. If Muldoon can be denied goal chances in there I don't think they have forwards capable of hitting 3/4 points in a game and if they can stifle Gilligan they should cut off any good supply. Have yet to see Lynch do anything of real merit at intercounty level - hopefully I won't eat those words!

Optimistically - Antrim by two...


a lot of people are of the same impression that derry struggle for scores without PB. while admittedly he'll be missed, i do feel that derry sometimes play better without him in the side. it gives the other forwards a better chance to sparkle, because certainly in the last few years the only game plan has been get the ball into bradley at all cost. the other forwards rarely see the ball and when they do are under alot more pressure to do something with it.

i feel that with muldoon gilligan and devlin we have the players to get enough scores to suffice. lynch should also weigh in with a few and depending if they are selected james conway and barry mc goldrick are usually good for a couple of points.

anyways all the best and here's hoping for a decent game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 30, 2007, 09:55:57 AM
Going by the Derry thread, Paddy Bradley looks to have won his appeal, and is technically available to play against us.

Question is will P. Crozier pick him, and after all he has been through, will PB return to the Derry set up this year?

Any word out there on our team yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: girt_giggler on May 30, 2007, 10:29:27 AM
he said himself on the championship on bbc last night that he hasn't been training with the county for couple of weeks & if he won the appeal he wouldnt be expecting a start against antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 30, 2007, 10:38:04 AM
i was told the team last night by a starter this sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:40:06 AM
so was i.

a major surprise don't you think pwtw?! it was for me anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on May 30, 2007, 10:43:21 AM
I see a lot of chat that two young cargin players will play for Antrim in defence on sunday - Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle.
Do you reckon they will start slim? Do you think they are up to that level? Cant say I ever saw O'Boyle play although I read he got cargin player of the season last season? Crozier is a class act saw him play a few games last year - he reminds me of Henry Downey the way he carries the game to the oppposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
Crozier is a class act, he's starting alright. I suppose you're going to try and claim him a Tyrone man?!  :P

kevin has had a few injuries since the U21 final in December, but he'd fit into corner back without a problem. very tidy player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on May 30, 2007, 10:49:08 AM
Quote from: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
Crozier is a class act, he's starting alright. I suppose you're going to try and claim him a Tyrone man?!  :P


I dont think you can deny he is from Tyrone stock - is his father not from the Moortown??  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:52:27 AM
indeed, he's a Moortown man alright. if he plyed his Trade in Tyrone he'd start for you as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on May 30, 2007, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:52:27 AM
indeed, he's a Moortown man alright. if he plyed his Trade in Tyrone he'd start for you as well.

He possibly would feature alright from what I have saw he looks the business.
I hope Antrim do the business on Sunday and take Derry - no other county rises the same sense of hatred in me than the oak leafers, cant stand them.
There will be plenty of Tyrone men on show anyway between Crozier and the Ballinderry contingent!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 30, 2007, 03:13:01 PM
Slim
about O'Boyle, is there a real mean streak in Kevin. I didn't think there was. CB at county level need to have that nasty side to there game and I always though of him as an out and out footballer, great on the ball and VG positional sense and generally a classy footballer. I though that he would be more suited to a WHB role, napping up breaking balls and playing good balls into the forwards. What are your views
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 03:19:41 PM
i disagree with you saying that a mean streak is needed, to do what? knock Mickey Lindens teeth down his throat with an assault?!

CJ McGourty came on for St Galls in the c'ship last year against us at corner forward, after scoring a clinking point O'Boyle moved onto him and had him in his pocket that day. He played at CHB for our u21's and done very well, I'd still prefer him in the corner though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 30, 2007, 03:28:34 PM
Tony Scullion won four All stars an All Ireland 3 natioanl Leagues and 6 Railway Cups. He was an outstanding corner back...he never left a hnad on you, he attacked the ball all the time with pace and postional play. Dont get me wrong, he was as tough as nails, but football was the game for him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 30, 2007, 03:41:41 PM
Fair point Maximus Marillius about Scullion, but at the same time I played against him a few times and when he hit you in a tackle, he didn't hold back. Fair hit but def tough.
Slim I don't mean that he has to know somebodys teeth out, but at a county level will he be able to put in those hard tackles.
My opion of Kevin was when he was playing against us at U-16-minor level, and in my view was the outstanding player on the pitch most times we met. Crozier was also very good, but O'Bolye had that extra bit of class about him at that age. He was always in the HB line and he just seemed a natural
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Kevin played forward at u16 for certain.

I'm against what you're saying, just because he hasnt this 'meanness' about him doesnt make him any worse defender. his tackling is second to none and a natural reader of the game. this makes up for not throwing weight about- those days are gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 30, 2007, 03:53:18 PM
Slim
I'll conceed to you then.
Is he def starting. How close is Darrell Marting to making the first 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 03:59:05 PM
cant be too far away, he played right up until the last couple of games! never know what could happen though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 31, 2007, 12:01:25 PM
Interesting article on the St Galls website:

The State We're In

St Patrick's Day, 2006. As hordes of supporters of Cumann Naomh Gall travelled to Dublin and Croke Park to cheer on the senior football team in the All-Ireland Club Final there was great hope that a unique page of history would be recorded in the annals of our club. And there was great hope in the county also and many messages of encouragement from throughout the country and abroad. Alas the ultimate prize, for which our footballers and many others had worked so hard, eluded us but we all still felt a great pride in being associated with the name of Cumann Naomh Gall and the passion shown by our members has probably never been greater.

And the senior hurling team reaching a first All-County Championship Semi-Final in fifty years also raised our passions and stirred our pride.

2007. Where are we at now? There can be no disguising the fact that we are now a club in disarray. We have lost our chairman, we have members who have fallen out and others have taken sides, we have members pulling against each other and no doubt some behind the scenes stirring the pot, we have excellent players who refuse to play for certain managers and we seem to have left the strengths of our football behind somewhere. And let's not forget the small matter of our financial problems, and with dirty and dated clubrooms no immediate prospect of addressing them.

So how in the name of God have we gone from the highs of an All-Ireland final to where we are today and how can we deal with our problems in a mature and constructive way for the good of our club? Because if we're really interested in Cumann Naomh Gall that's what it's all about. It isn't about you and I, Liam Stewart or Gary Sheehan, Paul Duffin or Kevin McGourty or anyone else individually but rather us all collectively. Collectively we are Cumann Naomh Gall, it's not the clubrooms or the pitches, it's the group of people we are who have a passion for our club and want it to be successful.

How are we in this mess today? Well ask different people and you will receive different answers. But while knowing when or how our problems started is not unimportant it is more important that we resolve them. To do that we have to have a starting point and the obvious starting point is that we all want what is best for our club. And it is essential that we all remember that, if we genuinely want to move this club forward. That is the goal we are all striving for. No one person or group of people has all the answers or the tools to rectify our situation. We need to get away from petty squabbles and jealousies and thinking if things aren't done our way they shouldn't be done at all. We need to get away from the backbiting and personalising of issues at the bar, in the changing rooms and on this website when something goes wrong. We need to become more encouraging towards each other and not aloof. Offer assistance not destructive criticism, deal with each other on the same level, not look down on others as less capable. We need to be accepting of members' capabilities and be positive towards what they offer our club, be it small or great.

There is more than one or two people apart from the committee trying to get the club back on the right tracks although more are always needed but no person or group should feel elitist.

But there seems to be those at work in the club who undermine good work that they do by sniping at others because they are responsible for certain positions or because they choose to do things a certain way. This negative and destructive attitude needs to stop. People talking in whispers and backbiting will only increase divisions and ultimately be counter productive. Indeed sometimes it has to be asked if certain people are working to their own agenda or the club's.

If we pay heed to what is going wrong in Cumann Naomh Gall we can address problems as they arise but we can't sit back and expect a committee that is overworked and pulled out all the stops to get our club to an All-Ireland final to do all the work.

For the last three or so years the club treasurer was very explicit in pointing out where the club was going financially. Whether something could have been done before now is not as important as trying to sort out the debts today. And some people are trying to do that. So if someone has been off their arse for weeks organising a quality fundraising night to benefit our members the least our members can do is get off their own arses for just one night and support it and contribute to the club.

And everyone needs to contribute to the fundraising not just the few so if you're part of a group or a team and you've something planned but for some reason it can't go ahead then come with another idea and just get on with it.

Of course everything is not doom and gloom. There are positives in our club and it's the positives which need built on. But there are areas which need addressed although as a club we can only address issues with some type of unity of purpose and mindset. One important point to remember is that when someone takes on a responsibility, no matter how great or small, they're usually the only person who has accepted to do the work that goes with that responsibility so we should all seek to be encouraging rather than to put down anyone's efforts.

There has been a lot of upheaval in the club and faces are changing. People have done more than their stint and are entitled to enjoy 'retirement' if they so choose. We are all indebted to them but the best tribute we could pay them is to take up the mantle and build upon their successes.

We wont achieve that if we have a senior hurling team feeling victimised or a senior football team aloof from the rest of the club, or a juvenile set up under-resourced or the handballers feeling second class or any other group or part of the club feeling uncomfortable.

And we also must remember that the committee is the only elected authority in the club and ultimate responsibility and accountability rests with those people. We have to acknowledge, that while they don't get everything right, the effort they put in to make the club a success. And they deserve our support.

So let's start anew. Put all the shite behind us, acknowledge each other's contributions, stop the backbiting and be supportive towards each other and move this club on.

Let's make the clubrooms financially viable again but let us also get back to enhancing our underage structures in both hurling and football as well as for the ladies so that we are once again competitive in all codes and challenging for trophies at all levels. After all isn't this what Cumann Naomh Gall is really all about? Let's get a working group identifying and addressing problems with underage hurling, seek to have our handballers better integrated into the club, lets utilise even more throughout the club the undoubted expertise of our senior footballers and let us recognise the talents and contributions of all. Too much to ask?

Well let's set the target high and strive for it.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 31, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
Seems like one or two key members have retired. Men like Vincent Ward wont be easily replaced, but no one can go on forever.

the spirit of St Galls should be strong enough to bounce back again. Good luck to them.

Its ironic though that so much intense, and financial effort was put into winning the all - ireland club title, that the "energy" has been sapped out of the club. Antrim football needs a strong St Galls.  In sure they wouldnt fancy this article going onto a bigger medium though, and would prefer to sort out their own problems internally. Show them enough respect to let them do that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on May 31, 2007, 12:40:47 PM
what peoples reaction to the antrim team for sunday


1. Sean McGreevey - Naomh Pól
2. Tony Scullion - Clann na hÉireann
3. Paul Doherty - Naomh Mhuire
4. Kevin O'Boyle - Clann na hÉireann
5. Sean McVeigh - Naomh Uile
6. Gavin Bell - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
7. Justin Crozier - Clann na hÉireann
8. Michael McCann - Clann na hÉireann
9. Joe Quinn - Naomh Pól
10. Aodhan Gallagher - Naomh Gall
11. Kevin Niblock - Naomh Gall
12. James Loughery - Naomh Brid
13. Conor McGourty - Naomh Gall
14. Kevin Brady - Naomh Ergnat
15. Patrick Cunningham - Lámh Dhearg

16. Chris Kerr - Naomh Gall
17. Ciaran Close - Clann na hÉireann
18. Eoin O'Neill - Clann na hÉireann
19. Darrel Martin - Chiceann
20. Tomas Close - Clann na hÉireann
21. Paul Close - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
22. Michael Rea - Naomh Seosamh
23. Colin Brady - Naomh Gall
24. Conor McGoldrick - Naomh Treasa
25. Patrick Logan - Naomh Uile
26. Liam Gartland - Naomh Pól
27. John Finnucane - Lámh Dhearg


it'll prob not line out like this but i have serious concerns about where the scores r goin to come from. if derry keep the frees down to a minimum i cant see antrim getting more than 3/4 points from play.
brady wont get u many scores. despite all the hype about cunningham he is very markable from open play altho lethal from dead balls. dont no enough about mcgourty at this level to know if he will make an impact. and the half forward isn't going to get many scores. i would have started close he has much more pace than the other two corner forwards to get out in front and take a man on to draw frees.

what do people think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 31, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
Any word on who will be captain?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 31, 2007, 01:05:21 PM
Definitely Close should be starting. You know what your getting from him. CJ hit or miss, too many off days recently.

Kevin O Boyle in the c`ship last year, Yyan Scott v Derry u 21, when CJ was shite, Gort Naona corner back in last weeks Antrim u -21 final, and pure crap v Donegal in last years Ulster c`ship minor final.

Sorry, but thats 4 out of the last 5 times I seen him play, and that dosent spell consistency to me.

Close a far safer bet. (Love to be proved badly wrong, but wont be!)

On the captain, I`d say Brady or Beller ,or Mick, or big Joe. Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 31, 2007, 01:24:51 PM
I think Clos will still be captain, lead the team out and take the toss etc. its hardly worth the hassle of picking another one.

if there was to be another captain, I'd choose Sean McGreevey.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 31, 2007, 01:27:25 PM
Slighly embarrassing for Close...what say ye Slim...if you are the real slim shady(ye have been to polite for the real slim me thinks)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EannaAbu on May 31, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
i think the saffrons have lined out with a lot of strength at the back, loughry and gallagher will also pack the midfield, will relying a lot on frees though, kick outs will tagert mcveigh an ddoherty on either flank, we could get a bit of joy winning ball there, am glad to see some new faces getting a chance, nothing to loose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 31, 2007, 02:02:02 PM
expect a 2 man full forward line with Brady playing in Loughreys position.

Crozier will be playing Centre Half Back, not wing half as stated.

Kickouts will be targetting McVeigh?!?!?! have you seen McGreevey kick a ball? They'll be targetting Mick McCann in the middle of the park and Gallagher at RHF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 31, 2007, 06:25:54 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on May 31, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
  In sure they wouldnt fancy this article going onto a bigger medium though, and would prefer to sort out their own problems internally. Show them enough respect to let them do that.

Away a that. This piece is an inspirational step that deserves the publicity the author has given it. Too many clubs in all counties, but a real killer in Antrim, suffer from fatal internal bickering. Any problems they are suffering are happening sometimes tenfold at others. However, too often, nothing is done about it. St Galls is Antrim's flagship club and no wonder when you have members willing to post the above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CiKe on May 31, 2007, 07:10:39 PM
excellent thoughtful piece. terrible shame the divisions in the club, every club has them but in the eyars i was playing they seemed to be kept to a minimum. have lost touch since moving abroad a few years abck but obviously things have deteriorated. good luck to htem, I hope they get things back on track.

re the game and the forwards. Has CJ bulked up at all? Without being slow, he was never lightning quick so I'd have thought a tenacious corner back would have him in his pocket - particularly given his propensity to start whinging and stop playing football. good luck to all the Galls boys and the rest of the team, it would be a great scalp
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on June 01, 2007, 08:25:49 AM
Message for the Real Slim Shady, a serious rumour is gathering about the Dunloy v Cargin game, you will know what i mean slim, is there any truth in it! I hear it was deserved - bad crack to put a person in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 01, 2007, 10:57:58 AM
Go on Queenie...expand on what you mean.

If there is a rumour is can be confirmed on dispelled on this board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 02:06:48 PM
i would like 2hear more about this incident at the dunloy v cargin game. come on queenie spill.

slim has gone decidedly quiet on this thread..trying to avoid something maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 01, 2007, 02:12:06 PM
correct hardstation, it was commented on and I've previously said it is bollocks!! someone with too much time on their hands.

any thoughts on the game? or are you just interested in idle gossip?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 01, 2007, 02:45:33 PM
Was at the game in duloy, was a straight red for the antrim mid fielder. NO questions NO quibbles.

Was a cowardly action anyway running in and driving someone up against the fence when their back was turned!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 01, 2007, 02:48:23 PM
wrong and wrong again.

p.s. nice to see you've hidden your e-mail address eventually NAG, i'd go easy on the rumour spreading mate  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 03:32:26 PM
funny NAG thats exactly what i heard about the incident at the cargin dunloy game as i have previously stated. u were at the game and i heard it from a reliable source who was also at the game. so there must ne some truth in it.
why the big cover uo slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 01, 2007, 03:37:24 PM
lads, i'm covering nothing up as there is nothing to cover!! get a grip or go to the Hoganstand.

Jesus but this place is away to f**k altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 03:42:33 PM
im not trying to make big deal of this but i heard from a cargin person who was at the game that mccann was shown straight red for shouldering a dunloy player into fence. u denied this which i accepted but now 2 other people have commented on the thread today about the incident as well which leads me to presume there is some true in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
hardstation u know how loyal and patriotic cargin fans and players r. why then would one tell me that mccann was shown a straight red which was then changed to 2yellows after the game. and this person is a good friend of mine so theres no chance they were lieing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 04:12:52 PM
my source was actually at the game and seen the incident. he also knows the player in question so again unlikely that he would lie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on June 02, 2007, 05:12:19 PM
Slim i have a close colleague who would be a member of the CCC, i,m telling you it seems to me like a cover up! Straight red no doubts, it was contributing to a melee, Category 2- 4 weeks, you have totally gone down in my estimation slim. You know it! Dunloy know it, and everyone is keeping stumb, an alleged cover up from Snr Officials. Real report probably got lost, anyone know who Refereed it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: awh ref on June 02, 2007, 05:24:27 PM
My Source also at game confirms it was a straight red. 
Ref was a G Duffy
I heard the Cargin players threatened to pull out of the county squad if it was not reduced to 2 yellows.
I think the county should have called there bluff as I don't think all the cargin players on the county team would have agreed to this stance. 
But the player in question would have been a major loss to the county team if unavailable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 04, 2007, 01:56:18 PM
any response to the above comments slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 04, 2007, 02:18:35 PM
he commented on it by covering up what really happened, which is what i dont understand. why u backing him up hardstation, would u like to know what happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 04, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
from Hoganstand....

Former boss Delargy backs Gormley
03 June 2007


The decision of Antrim senior football boss Jody Gormley to blood four under 21s agianst in Derry in today's (Sunday) Ulster SFC has been applauded by former county under 21 manager Frank Delargy.

"I think he is setting down a marker," Delargy opines.

"He will see what he can get out of this season with these players and build for the future.

"There are some great Antrim players missing at the moment for one reason or another.

"Some of those would be Kevin McGourty, Sean Kelly, Tony Convery, Mark Dougan and Micheal Magill.

"Those players would get on any team in Ireland.

"I think if those players come back Antrim will have a very strong team next year.

"But I think Jody is working this year to put the foundations in for a full, all-out, assault next year."


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on June 04, 2007, 03:01:50 PM
all the prize winners are on the www.antrimgaa.net page, sean docherty from portglenone won the appartment in bulgaria, think a fella from portglenone won the £10,000
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 04, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club? 

Still, not as bad as playing while suspended.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 04, 2007, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 04, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club? 

Still, not as bad as playing while suspended.

ffs, Sam, I'll ask since nobody else has picked up on your un-subtle hints.... who played while suspended?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 04, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
If a player receives a suspension of up to 4 weeks he is still free to still play his county, anything over 4 weeks he is suspended from both club and county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 05, 2007, 08:21:47 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 04, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
QuoteIf the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club?
???Why would it not??

Quote from: NICSSA on June 04, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
If a player receives a suspension of up to 4 weeks he is still free to still play his county, anything over 4 weeks he is suspended from both club and county

This answers hardstation's question I hope.

Quote from: The Real SlimShady on June 04, 2007, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 04, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club? 

Still, not as bad as playing while suspended.

ffs, Sam, I'll ask since nobody else has picked up on your un-subtle hints.... who played while suspended?

Can't give a name, but like I said before this incident tells me that we're not ALL SAINTS  in Antrim.  Yash told me about it - they were playing against the team in question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 05, 2007, 09:21:17 AM
Therreal slimshandy

I was at the game and I know exactly what I saw and Im not colour blind or stupid, so whats your agenda in this?

The truth will always out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 05, 2007, 09:39:06 AM
Come on Slim, don't be dishonest...the truth is out there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 05, 2007, 10:48:44 AM
Get over it ffs, would yous all rather that antrim played derry without their best player?

Was just reading paddy heaneys column, you get some real arrogant bastards doing stewards and turnstiles at matches.

2 winners of tickets courtesy of the irish news were turned away from the game on sunday, because they were told their tickets were forgeries!

coome on for feck sake, its not like it was the champions league final , mind u derry fans are as bad as liverpool fans, no one likes us we don't care !! lol  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 05, 2007, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: culchy1 on June 05, 2007, 10:48:44 AM
Get over it ffs, would yous all rather that antrim played derry without their best player?

Was just reading paddy heaneys column, you get some real arrogant bastards doing stewards and turnstiles at matches.

2 winners of tickets courtesy of the irish news were turned away from the game on sunday, because they were told their tickets were forgeries!

coome on for feck sake, its not like it was the champions league final , mind u derry fans are as bad as liverpool fans, no one likes us we don't care !! lol  ;D

too right, they weren't allowing anyone out to get a bite to eat or they'd have to pay in again! Ignorant hoors who wouldnt attend a club game.

saying that, i got in for nothing thanks to one of said men  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on June 05, 2007, 11:10:22 AM
The minor game was a very one-sided affair.

Are Derry that good a side?

Are Antrim that bad?

Or is O'Prey the tool that JohnJoe says he is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 05, 2007, 11:25:25 AM
Ethan, my thoughts on that are well known, but as a manager I know how raw defeat can be, and i wouldnt want to be putting the boot into anyone at this time.

i would have preferred to have put up a credit worthy performance at least, but two scores from play in an hour is not good in anyones book. I`d say the powers that be will have their own questions to ponder, and I know they will deal with it as they see fit.

I`d be well impressed with Mc Sparrans ability to make hard calls, and trust his judgement on this one.

Antrim Football needs the very very best coaches/personell, from u-14 to u-21, the development journey, and this would be a priority for us all. But now is not the time or place for recriminations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 05, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
antrim minors just didnt turn up on sunday.
they couldnt do the simple things and the conditions cant be used as excuse because it was the same for both teams.
they couldnt hold onto the ball, couldnt pick it up first time and they couldnt get out in front of their men.
the defence done ok considering they were under seige, but the forwards were woeful.

at the start i thought they half back line and midfield fannied about with the ball too long before putting it into the forwards, but the forwards werent showing and werent interested.


mcdooooowell who have you managed b4 apart from sean stinsons u12's or u14's.
i know ur interested in motorbikes did you managed any of the dunlops, joey or rab! :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 06, 2007, 01:32:21 PM
Name and shame the seniors who had to re arrange their flights for america from last monday to next because of the match being rained off?

who are they all, I personally think they are cheating the whole county with this attitude.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 06, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
NAG, you're a bit of a gossip monger aren't you with all this name and shame malarkey. May i point out that I have your e-mail address and if theres any more of yer oul shite I'll be naming-and shaming you.

:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 06, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Slim does it not get up your nose to the extent that you loose respect for players who have planned to go to the states. In their minds they have excepted defeat...and that after all is the first battle that has to be won if winning in the championship is what a footballer wants to achieve. If players have done this why do they deserve to be shown respect. if you were offered the chance to play in the championship for Antrim, would you not jump at the chance, change your entire life to allow you make the best of that opportunity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 06, 2007, 04:12:47 PM
Therealslimshady

do you think this is right for antrim footballers to book to go to america a day after their first round game?

what does this say about their attitude?

or maybe you agree with them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 06, 2007, 04:16:13 PM
no, i dont think its right at all. The management must know something about it though and therefore should have ruled them out long ago- regardless of it weakening the team. There is no 'i' in team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 06, 2007, 04:24:54 PM
well then what is the problem

do you want players with that attitude representing you and your county?

I dont think the majority of antrim people would!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 06, 2007, 05:42:25 PM
Lads listen to the whiter than white posters on this site. Yes I think that players should have the decency to arrange these things after the fact. And if they run around publicising that they are going out to the states on such a date so soon after the championship game then they are wrong.

But are they wrong to be going to play and be offered all sorts of dough for a game they love playing. You boys are complaining about them not committing to the county, spare a thought for senior management of both teams in Naomh Gall, who will be without these lads. Do I have a grudge at them for going away? No, I did it when I was there age. Do I need them playing for the club? Yes, but what can you do. Wish I had the opportunity.

Lets not get bogged down on the McGourty's going to the states. Every club has had someone go (we have 6 dual senior players heading off), as far as I know it's not a hanging offence.

So lets talk about Antrim beating Derry this Sunday I'm bored of this topic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 06, 2007, 07:15:36 PM
I don't think the discussion is against people playing football in the states, every young lad would love that....no its about what message does it say about their will to win against derry when they have it pre arranged to go after the derry game :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on June 10, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
Galf Time

Antrim 0-6 Derry 0-6 were 1-5 down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrones own on June 10, 2007, 04:23:54 PM

  They'll bring poor Paddy the victim in for the 2nd ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on June 10, 2007, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on June 10, 2007, 04:23:54 PM

  They'll bring poor Paddy the victim in for the 2nd ;)

and they did
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thebuzz on June 10, 2007, 08:16:23 PM
 Quote from: Tyrones own on Today at 04:23:54 PM

  They'll bring poor Paddy the victim in for the 2nd


'and they did '

I don't think he even touched the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on June 11, 2007, 10:46:38 AM
mcgourty said in the irish news that they will give the tommy murphy a good go so maybe he will be staying for the summer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 11, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
bullshit, plane leaves tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 11, 2007, 04:03:57 PM
i hope they do go, not one flying f**k could i give about that pile of dung that is the Tommy Murphy Cup- what a load of bull it is.

And, if they do go it'd mean not having to worry about them in the club C'ship for a wee while  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 11, 2007, 04:06:45 PM
After the displays of the last few weeks, all i can say is Im in a state of depression at the state of football in Antrim.

Our game plans were pathetic, tactics naive, wrong sustitutions, (Niblock and Brady were both doing well) dont get me started!

Were 5 points down with 20 to go, and there is 80 yards between our non existent forward line, and two light weight forwards. plus, Derry had a man in the hole to cut off supply into them.

What the hell was wrong with putting all our six forwards back in to their traditional positions, and playing the game in the Derry half, or at least provide a target.

And last week we get two points in an hour in minor football, from play!

Bullshit, two weeks in a row, and Im seriously pissed off. Dont get me started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 11, 2007, 05:29:55 PM
well the lads that are going away seemed to be theones that put a bit of fight into the game and did nearly all their scoring.

if we had have won the game these lads would have stayed thats for sure.

any Cargin lads going Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 12, 2007, 08:41:26 AM
Results from last nights games:

Div 1 Football
St. Johns  0-10 1-15 St. Galls  Corrigan Park 
Lamh Dhearg  3-9 2-12 Creggan Kickhams  Lamh Dhearg   
Moneyglass  1-17 0-9 Gort Na Mona  Moneyglass   
Cargin  2-8 2-4 Portglenone  Cargin   

Division 2 Football
Davitts  1-13 2-9 Aghagallon  Boucher Road   
Glenravel  1-12 0-10 Rossa  Glenravel   
St. Endas  4-8 0-8 Mc Dermotts  Woodlands

In our match  the result is wrong as Rossa scored 1-4. Big result for Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on June 12, 2007, 11:33:37 AM
Creggan still going strong with Mickey Moran at the helm, sitting top of he league, surely they must me c'ship contenders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 12, 2007, 11:50:00 AM
indeed, must be favourites at this stage with their impressive form!

Cargin v Creggan in the O'Cahan Cup was due to be played this Friday evening has been cancelled at Creggans request. Apparently they have too many games this week, the same amount as ourselves.

i wouldnt be surprised to see Mickey Moran managing Antrim in the very near future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 12, 2007, 12:44:43 PM
Was at Cargin v portglenone last night.

Cargin looking good, sharp and slick, and good disciplined football, no messing. Still the team to beat this year.

portglenone looked sluggish and a few struggled with the pace of the game, tho only four points in it they have a few weeks hard work ahead. Tomas Mc Cann best on pitch, followed by Crozier. Convery and impressive gerard McAleese who about broke even with kevin o boyle, were best for Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 12, 2007, 05:35:43 PM
well young McGourty is away. apparently got his father to go down to casement yesterday to get his transfer signed for him and left dublin airport today at lunchtime! so much for giving the tommy murphy a lash!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on June 12, 2007, 05:47:34 PM
What a p***k, he's quoted in papers today again saying he is staying for a number of reasons "I'm sure all the phones will be ringing, but I'm here and likely to be here for the summer as there are certain circumstances I need to be here for"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: goldenyears on June 12, 2007, 05:55:55 PM
would anyone give mcgettigan the credit for putting creggan where they are now? or would it boil down to moran bringing it on a level or two? curious to find out opinions....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 12, 2007, 07:04:03 PM
read that in the mirror myself, and laughed since the irish news knew the truth. brendan crossan and mcgourty's are fond of exchanging phone calls!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on June 12, 2007, 07:10:06 PM
Sure are!
He must have said all that after the match though, why did he keep lying?
Sounds like he took the cowards route today with his da aswell, did Gormley know about it? He had to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 12, 2007, 07:19:37 PM
gormley questioned everyone after the game, "who would not be at training on tuesday?(tonight) and everyone claimed they would be there! shows little respect for antrim and gormley!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on June 12, 2007, 07:30:14 PM
Should be an interesting session then so!
If I was Gormley and that was the case I'd pack it in, why should he put neck and reputation on the line!

Always interesting in Antrim!!  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2007, 07:48:26 PM
Would Gormley have played him if he knew for definite that CJ was going? Surely he had an inkling.......the dogs on the street.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2007, 09:33:39 PM
Creggan have been on the up for a few years now. Moran has probably just injected a new enthusiasm and he is genuinely a top coach which would help but they have some decent, maybe not brilliant, but decent players to work with.

I would expect them to be one of the stronger u16 and minor teams in the county which will help in the future. You don't become a decent division one team overnight team too so someone must have done something - not sure if it was McGettigan or not but they certainly seem to have and have had decent underage structures in place.

It would be very unrealistic to be thinking just because they are competing well in the league that Creggan could compete in the championship with the big guns. They can compete for maybe fourth best team but the calibre of player coming out of Cargin and St Galls is just much better than anything coming out of anywhere else. Lamh Dhearg would be next at the minute too. I'd like to see them and Portglenone in the c'ship  they'd likely be about the same level.

I would hear bits and pieces and I would guess McGettigan would be one of the key players in Creggan getting better - not 100% sure though. Slim maybe you can unbiasedly comment??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 13, 2007, 08:30:52 AM
Nothing to keep young McGourty at home - just doing what any right minded 19 year old would do.  A chance of a summer in the States, a few quid etc. vs. the Tommy Murphy Cup.  He is the first of many who will be heading and not just from Antrim.  By removing Antrim from the qualifiers it just brought his decision forward by a few weeks.

Did Jody Gormley ever go to play in the States after Tyrone were knocked out of the Championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 13, 2007, 08:48:57 AM
i wouldnt stay here for that Tommy Murphy Cup shite, in fact I'd recommend that if Antrim are going to enter it they should only train once a week or not at all- or f**k it, just dont bother entering the f**king thing. its a total sham of a money making scheme for the GAA and nobody really gives a shit about the prestigious Tommy Murphy Cup!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2007, 08:58:16 AM
 Playwiththewind, you sound like a disgruntled panel player, did he take your place McGourty, you seem to know a lot about him are you a stalker very worrying that you know so much, what was the meal on the plane and what movie did they watch?

He's gone get over it, will Antrim get anything out of winning the division 4 Championship? I doubt I very much. Had Jody kept us in division 3 thus ensuring playing in the qualifiers then that would have been looked on as a success. How many people will travel down to Kilkenny to watch Antrim get a tough game?


you've got in before me Slim!
Someone said it before on this board although I thought it was about hurling but it could be used for football, let the players play for their clubs and pick the form players each week, and the money saved could go into developing football at juvenile and school levels. Has all the training weekends challenge games and use of the most sophisticated fitness suit in Ireland (Jordanstown) the payment of trainers and managers made Antrim any better than the teams in the last 30 years? NO

Fix it at grass roots level first don't be pumping money at something that hasn't and won't work. Then you get these toss pots coming on slagging people off for going of and earning a few pound. Go off and try it lads it's well worth the trip. If we are depending on 19 years olds for Antrim to win the Tommy Murphy Cup then we are seriously in a bad state.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 10:46:33 AM
Irish News today quote from Paddy Cunningham saying he's not stateside??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 13, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
and what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2007, 10:58:59 AM
What date are the first rounds of the football championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 11:08:02 AM
Just wanted to know what everyone thought after bad mouthing him and CJ about going?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2007, 11:09:58 AM
think we play Lamhs on the 29th of July or the 1st of August in the preliminary round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 13, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
im just passing on what i heard from a very strong source.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 11:15:21 AM
I know, I'm not badmouthing ya Play!! I had heard the exact same thing myself, thought it was true bill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 13, 2007, 12:15:46 PM
Quote from: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 10:46:33 AM
Irish News today quote from Paddy Cunningham saying he's not stateside??

he leaves monday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 09:24:36 AM
CJ's home from Amerca.

Yes, thats right, after all the chat about him going after him telling the papers he wasn't going- he did go. And lasted 3 days, apparently while unpacking his suitcase he realised he forgot his lucky underpants and went back to West Belfast to retrieve them. he's now intending to stay home.

Result from yesterday

St Galls 0-11
Cargin 0-13
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 18, 2007, 10:13:50 AM
Weekend results from Div 1 and 2

Sunday 17th June 2007
Division 1 Football

Portglenone  0-15 0-7 St. Pauls
St. Galls  0-11 0-13 Cargin 
Creggan Kickhams  1-12 0-10 Moneyglass 

Division 2 Football

Aghagallon  0-12 0-10 St. Endas     
St. Brigids B 2-16 1-6 Rossa 

Saturday 16th June 2007
Div 1 Football
Dunloy  4-12 3-6 Lamh Dhearg 
   
Division 2 Football

All Saints  0-10 0-10 Glenravel   

Friday 15th June 2007

Division 2 Football

Rasharkin  4-12 1-11 Davitts   

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 18, 2007, 11:02:56 AM
bit of a slip on saturday in ur local derby niccsa, what happened!

aye heard cj was home, wonder what happened, was he home sick or what?

paddy cunningham leaves this week, along with kerr the sub goalie.

good result for dunloy on sat, lamhs will find it tough without cunningham. is christy lynch still in america.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 11:10:34 AM
homesick after 3 days? most of which would have been spent travelling?! f**k aff!!

he must have got off the plane and didnt like the look of the airport and decided to get a flight home.

his brother Kevin (Shaws Road) was playing yesterday, needs a good kick in the balls. He is by far the whiniest hoor I've ever seen towards his team mates, never lets up with abuse towards his fellow Galls men.

On another note, Milltown Row- your facilities are nothing short of a disgrace. The changing rooms are filthy, the showers just about dripping-ice cold, and the state of your pitch takes the piss. No lines or f**k all. One lad was charged with putting up the 'nets' beforehand on his own and as one ball dropped on it in the 1st game they fell down round your keeper! Very shoddy indeed. there was plenty of support for your senior team, so why aren't these people pulling their weight around the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd on June 18, 2007, 11:16:52 AM
Slim i though Kevin "Midnight Cowboy" Mc Gourty was going to the America too to seek his fortune, has he not went yet? Have to agree with you about the facilities in St Galls, the changing rooms are a joke for a club as big as St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd on June 18, 2007, 11:29:52 AM
Spot on Hardstation. I wonder how the family publicist Brendan Crossan feels today after that pile of sh*te he wrote on Fridays Irish News, about CJ would be mad staying at home etc etc.....No doubt the record will be set straight in the next few days by young CJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 11:31:41 AM
hardstation, not even they would be that ridiculous!

be surprised to see him take part in the Tommy Murphy Cup.

Whiney Ass Kevin was playing 3rd midfielder against us yesterday, piss poor. He singled out some lad Alfie for most of his abuse, young lad- Left Half Back. Hannigan perhaps?
Anyhow, St Galls were missing a fair few and will be very hard to beat come crunch time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2007, 11:35:42 AM
yes lads changing rooms are a disgrace thats the same for both, we are currently trying to get new ones but there is no excuse,. i'm embarrassed by this, and pitch also needs looking after, us as managers have to put the nets up and they are crap at that. big club but only a small amount of people putting effort in. is that not the same with most clubs?

cargin looked good yesterday, it's been a while since you came down a beat us well, though we were missing some lads beating us at home is good stuff.

conor John McGourty is home, found out they dont do soda farles and brown sauce. not sure how his transfer will work out and when he's available for Naomh Gall. some micky taking in the club yesterday think he missed his mummy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2007, 11:51:24 AM
hey Hardstation, Alfie snr is  a great fella. less of your lip >:( he would not do you a bad turn

alfie would give good rub downs before games and is a good guy to have in a team set up. well respected within club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2007, 12:04:48 PM
feeling rough Station, hard night on the tiles :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
Can anyone post the results from the weekend on here...can't access the Antrim result/fixtures from here.

Good win for Cargin?
Portlgenone must be on a bit of a roll.
And was pleasantly surprised to see Dunloy beat Lamh Dearg, good win - heard Micko Herron was throwing his weight around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
Cheers hardstation - missed that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
Can anyone post the results from the weekend on here...can't access the Antrim result/fixtures from here.

Good win for Cargin?
Portlgenone must be on a bit of a roll.
And was pleasantly surprised to see Dunloy beat Lamh Dearg, good win - heard Micko Herron was throwing his weight around.

what sort of Roll would that be? sausage roll?

we beat them comfortably last week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
4 points (if I am right) isn't amazingly comfortable.
Admittedly a few of your team were on the sauce after Antrim's loss to Derry.

They almost beat St Galls earlier in the year...have run all the big three close enough and disposed of the rest (aside from a bit of a freak result against Moneyglass). Not bad for a club that was touted before the season began as crumbling with Madden definitely gone.

Anyhow...not sure why I am defending Portglenone.

Creggan for the championship.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 18, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
Aye Culchy dropping too many silly points, were 3 points up with less than 10 to go and went to sleep. Rasharkin have only dropped 1 point to ourselves whereas the rest of the teams seem to be taking points off each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 02:09:46 PM
were you at the game? they didnt run us close, now get a f**king grip. there was 4 points in it due to 2 fortuitous goals, they never looked like troubling Cargin- without our playmaker Devlin.

Creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 04:30:32 PM
Slim...fortuitous goals or not...you beat Portglenone by 4 points.
Missing one player? They were missing several.

I was merely saying that for a team written off at the start of the year they have done rightly...nothing wrong with that.

You get a f**king grip. The world does not begin and end with Cargin despite you being the Oracle on all things gaelic football...


Creggan or St Galls...just not Cargin.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 18, 2007, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: NICSSA on June 18, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
Aye Culchy dropping too many silly points, were 3 points up with less than 10 to go and went to sleep. Rasharkin have only dropped 1 point to ourselves whereas the rest of the teams seem to be taking points off each other.

aye that seems to happen alot in div2 and not just this year either.
bein a rasharkin man mysel, i've been keepin an eye on ur results. i hear big logan put the crucial free over near the end from bout 50metres.
hopefully we can keep picking up the points, we beat davitts on fri nite, not bad team by all accounts.
sean og o'neill is a damn decent player, even though they were gettin beat handy enuf they still kept playin football
something i wudnt have associated with them in the past.

ballymena wont be that far away come, well i was goin to say sept/oct, but it will prob be dec.
we play them in the o'cahan cup on fri nite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 04:30:32 PM
Slim...fortuitous goals or not...you beat Portglenone by 4 points.
Missing one player? They were missing several.

I was merely saying that for a team written off at the start of the year they have done rightly...nothing wrong with that.

You get a f**king grip. The world does not begin and end with Cargin despite you being the Oracle on all things gaelic football...


Creggan or St Galls...just not Cargin.




where did i say it began and ended in Cargin you fuckwit? i did say however that ST GALLS are the team to beat NOT us. you really are dim.

and are you seriously saying Creggan for the Championship?! SERIOUSLY?! you think Creggan are capable of beating St Galls in Casement?

:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

stick to the hurling laddie, ye havny a clue aboot fitba!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 08:54:29 AM
The radio was reporting this morning that CJ had taken ill, explaining his quick return from the States :D...in the same sentence it said he would be joining the Antrimm squad for the Tommy Cooper Cup. Best of luck to CJ and the boys in the Tommy Cooper Cup :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 08:59:37 AM
correct Max, he was very sick- homesick! missed his Mammy's goodnight kisses and hugs  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 19, 2007, 09:50:12 AM
You are the fuckwit Slim.
I said I want Creggan or St Galls to win the football...not you.
Where did I say that I thought Creggan could beat St Galls at Casement. All I said was that I want Creggan or St Galls to win the Antrim Championship...and again...not you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 09:55:59 AM
so you want the Stickys to win?  :D ;D

Jealousy is a horrid thing...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 19, 2007, 10:35:12 AM
Culchy,

Youse seem to be doing all right this year, with nearly the first round complete only 1 point dropped (we really should have won).Yourselves would be favourites to go back up again and 1 from about 5 others at the minute.
Have you played St Brigids yet?
I was surprised how physical Ballymena were on staurday and they have big men up the spine of their team, also when we played Davitts they played good football but just couldn't finish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 10:49:38 AM
I'd fancy St Biddys to beat 'sharrrrkin. Youse boys is no gooders!!!!!!!

Cant see 'sharkin coming up out of that league for a couple of years, dont rate the attitude of a lot of the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2007, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 08:54:29 AM
The radio was reporting this morning that CJ had taken ill, explaining his quick return from the States :D...in the same sentence it said he would be joining the Antrimm squad for the Tommy Cooper Cup. Best of luck to CJ and the boys in the Tommy Cooper Cup :D

As a matter of interest, if his temporary transfer went through to whatever club he was meant to play for in the states, can he now still play for St Galls and Antrim or does he have to sit out the 3 month transfer?

We had a lad return home early from the states recently and he had to sit out a few weeks until his three months were up, is this still the case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 19, 2007, 11:21:36 AM
Quote from: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 10:49:38 AM
I'd fancy St Biddys to beat 'sharrrrkin. Youse boys is no gooders!!!!!!!

Cant see 'sharkin coming up out of that league for a couple of years, dont rate the attitude of a lot of the players.

slim, i'm not goin to go into our clubs politics on here.
but ur rite to say some of our boys attitudes stink, all the same we will come up this year no doubt about it, i cud take the team an get back up. :D
we still have alot of good dedicated players, if we put in the same effort and time as you's do in toome, we wud be up there with u's!
but its easier said than done, aint that rite slim. ;)

we put in a serious effort a couple of years ago and got to the semi, so it shows it is possible if the attitude is rite.
too many booze begs ! ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 11:33:54 AM
if the attitude isnt right it doesnt matter a f**k who is in charge or how long ye's are out trainin. no gooders drag the team down and thats that, 'sharkin has too many no gooderssssssssssssssss.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 19, 2007, 12:02:15 PM
i'm not arguing with ye slim, just think we will come back up this year, but unless things change we will be back down the year after again.
thought that goin down wud have been the kick up the arse that we needed but still same old same old.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 03:49:30 PM
Slim we are still not at full pelt this year, and will struggle, the 2 other mcgourtys away at the end of the month. i hear Cunningham is away soon to the states.

i'd say Cargin still favourites for the Championship this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 03:54:08 PM
who? Kevin and Ciaran going stateside?

their shoes will be filled with CJ, Kelly, Niblock. St galls the team 2 bt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 04:24:48 PM
yes

sean Kelly has not kicked ball all year

slim were you playing first game at milltown 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 04:26:41 PM
Quoteslim were you playing first game at milltown

Slim playing  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 04:26:50 PM
could well of been, could well have got frozen in the showers too.

why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 19, 2007, 04:28:24 PM
i heard niblock was for the u s of a also!! ;) ;)

cj straight back in trainin with the county fair play te him, an antrim gael thru an thru ::)

heard big tony convery and sean kelly are expected to link up with the squad.

maybe more to follow, what bout geek slim or even more so antrim will need a new sub goalie now that young kerr from galls has left for usa.
wonder what joe robb's doing for the summer!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 04:33:40 PM
if you were in Division one ye'd know Joe Robb plays full forward 'sharrrrrrrrrkin son! Bones does goals for Kickems.

Ooor boy Devlin wont be near no county squad, why the fook wod he? look sweet goin up fir that oul shite after not bein asked b4.

donie know wat i'm talkin fitba wi you fir sir, yous boys is no goooodersss  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 04:38:11 PM
no just called down for the second half you didn't have much to do our second team is made up of players who think they should be seniors and and other lads who wont play for the thirds

do yous have the same problem? our third team is top and and the craics better

showers yes rubbish what can i say? it's the same in our dressing room. plus the smell of the sewer. not good.

some boys from the senior team heading of for months holiday not the full summer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 04:41:48 PM
our showers are ket too, brutal altogether.

think we had bare 15 again your reserves, our 3rds wer playin at home. we had to play oor manager again youse. Luckily oor manager is Blondie Gallager  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on June 20, 2007, 09:50:11 AM
Slim,

Its a bit rich a Cargin man giving out about somebody elses showers, the facilities in toome are brutal, i've got third degree burns from dancing below a trickle of boiling water on sunday morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 20, 2007, 09:52:51 AM
if ye read back sur ye'll find i said oor showers are shite.

3rd degree burns ye say? its not like u 'sharrrrrrrkin hoors to wash!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 20, 2007, 10:56:13 AM
sliim,

who u fancy for the o'cargin cup

will the mighty creggan take you's down a peg again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 20, 2007, 10:59:04 AM
never know hi, stranger things havent happend!!

wont b goin up to watch ur game though, will arrive for our match instead of waiting around that kip. games shud b in whitehill anyhow, moneyglass field is away ti f**k. who unes play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 20, 2007, 11:09:33 AM
the shams!

they had a decent recent agin glenravel at the weekend.
the logan bros have fairly helped them this year, paddy may not be the most mobile but he can still take a score.

i spose ur match is really the final anyhow, slim it not called the o'cargin cup for nething.
or maybe u's are not taking it seriously  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 20, 2007, 11:13:08 AM
we usually dnt take it serious but are this year simply cos its creggan and after their 'celebrations' followin ther league win over us, we think thers sum unfinished business!!

unes shod bt ballymena, logan couldn't run outta yer road 5 years ago ffs!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 21, 2007, 08:41:28 AM
Lads I dont get it....why does Tony Convery and Sean Kelly make themselves available for the Tommy Cooper Cup as reported in The Irish News today and not make themselves available in some way for the championship ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 08:54:33 AM
attended Creggan vs St Galls up at the crooked pitch last night! St Galls won by a point but should have won by much more.

McGourty was mouthin at his own men again- if that twat played on oor team he'd av been scalped by now. Gaga straight red card for sinkin his nut into Mark Dougan b4 half time, come half time there was a bit of a kerfuffle with handbegs flyin everywhere, i think someone dropped ther lipstick in the middle of it. Creggan struggled again 14 men of st galls, Adrian Dougan should have been sent aff as well as he decided to have a stamp on some mans crigs (looked v sore tho not sure who it was).

ref was Eoin Quinn fray 'shhhhharrrrrrrrrkin and lost control of it in 1st half and the teams themselves cooled it down in the 2nd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 21, 2007, 11:15:11 AM
straight red Slim?  were we better than we were against yourselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 11:24:10 AM
dunno, hard to tell how you played as its near impossible to play on that crooked pitch. ye played 2nd half with 14 men and looked comfy so yeah, you did play a bit better. Niblock came off the bench in 2nd half and helped tho. straight red, used the head. dont no wat was said but i thot Gaga wasnt like that? Aidso also played and didnt again us. in hindsight ye shod have hammered 'em.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 11:59:40 AM

Thought McGoarty was heading to the states?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 12:13:29 PM
only on holiday apparently. the twat wz ther las nite anyway guernin at his team mates as he was on sunday. no sign of his younger brother.

on another note,

Sean Cavanagh, Dara O'Cinneide, 'top' players in 2days game dont get one tenth the publicity of these c***ts. i know Kenny the **** lives across the rd from them but to have them all over the back of the irish news every fookin day takes the piss. players who do fook all but whine and guern and play 1 game a year get more talk than real footballers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 04:29:35 PM
Cargin vs Creggan game cancelled

Creggan cancel this fixture for the 3rd time!!

i wonder why?  ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 22, 2007, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 21, 2007, 08:41:28 AM
Lads I dont get it....why does Tony Convery and Sean Kelly make themselves available for the Tommy Cooper Cup as reported in The Irish News today and not make themselves available in some way for the championship ??? ??? ???

Convery was a victim of Jody Gormley's failed "I know best - I'll crack the whip and sort a few of these experienced boys out whilst playing novices in central positions marking All-Stars in the championship" policy.

Kelly was in England doing the PGCE, and dn't make the required commitment, despite numerous approaches.  One need only look at how Stephen O'Neill's form dipped somewhat when he too was away in England and how Declan McCrossan also took the same option as Kelly. 

Once Kelly returned, he made himself available for the county, which was the correct thing to do.

Me, I'd melt the Tommy Cooper Cup down and fashion it into a new trophy in the shape of an All-Star trophy and give it to Paddy Bradley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 22, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
Slim, was driving through Randalstown at 12.30, and would swear i saw a most prominent Creggan player getting on a bus, with approx 15-20 other lads. All with full kit bags, looked like a team headin off for the weekend, but not sure they were all GAA players, if you get my drift !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 25, 2007, 09:24:07 PM
Slim, wind your f**king neck in.

Just stick to the thread and keep your jealousy of the McGourtys to yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 26, 2007, 09:57:23 AM
heard jody wanted the games this week called off because of match at weekend.
think this is the wrong way to go, get them played now instead of november,
there a long enough break comin up shortly for most teams.
if antrim are worth anything they should beat kilkenny by at least 10pts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 26, 2007, 11:55:47 AM
how did Ballymena beat youz sir? must have been hopeless. we play them in the final on sunday night in portglenyin.

What are the views on the mitey Kickems withdrawing instead of playing us? just coz they had 2 men goin away on a weekend bender.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 26, 2007, 01:00:55 PM
aw slim sure u know ursel we're no goooooooddddeeeerrrrrsss.

threw it away and the ref wasnt great but cant blame him for kicking the wides.
j o'd was ref, one of our boys got a knock and was down injured he towel him to get up and stop faking.
our player broke his collar bone, nice bit of reffin our eoin cudnt even be as bad as that, what ye think slim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 26, 2007, 01:22:27 PM
no gooooooooooders shurely!

seems harsh on your boys but im sure theres another side to the story eh culch? and dont av me startin on young Quinn again- u21's wer robbed, is all i say.

oor boys wer away for a weekends trainin on the beach in donegal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 27, 2007, 01:30:21 PM
heard thru the grapevine johnjoe's mate made a guest appearence at county trainin last nite along with sean kelly(not the fish and chip shop one, st galls) and tony convery! ;) ;)


is the fleadh on in kilkenny at the weekend!! ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 27, 2007, 01:39:09 PM
it could be the whiff of a run oot on Croker!!!! Everyone up ther knows the Tommy Cooper is a farce but stiil, its a chance to play in Croker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 02:16:55 PM
So who is all headed for the match in Kilkenny then? Slim, putting your support where your mouth is?
I am.

I plan to get into the full Saffron gear and try and slip into the 13 man blanket defence - the ref might not notice.

Who is John Joe's mate then that went to county training.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on June 27, 2007, 02:18:36 PM
Looks like there is a stronger panel for the Tommy Murphy than there was for the Championship  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 27, 2007, 02:34:17 PM
wouldnt ye look fcukin sweet goin ti watch that shite away down there  :D

fook sake like, Kilkenny team wil likely b on the sauce the nite b4!!

besides, we're scheduled to win another O'Cahan cup on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 03:00:29 PM
As I'm an Antrim fan...that's why I'll be going.

You criticise from your armchair and then revert to sitting in your big fat Toome bubble...a bubble that should be in fecking Derry anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 27, 2007, 03:23:58 PM
how shod it be in Doire sur?

so, its ok to expect normal fans to travel to the end of the country to watch Antrim play in a 3rd rate competition again the worst team in Ireland? get a f**king grip son. and the ginger whinger Gormley is wantin to call club games off cos of it? away and f**k.

kilkenny away, i'd say most of the players are debating even goin! ye buckin eejit ye  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 27, 2007, 04:35:20 PM
john joe's mate wud be big mehall "duck eggs and blue moulded sodas" magill!!   :D





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 05:34:26 PM
Your clubmates are playing Slim. Your clubmate is captain.
Have a bit of f**king pride.
Not many will travel but don't try and belittle those that do.

A pretty full programme of games to this date....Jody has been better than some in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on June 27, 2007, 09:08:38 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/the_championship/6240778.stm

No need for anyone to travel, it's live on the BBC NI Website :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PrivatePile on June 27, 2007, 09:13:32 PM
Have to go with Slim on this one, "pride" ? maybe some of the players should have shown a bit more against Derry and they wouldnt be in this heap of shite competition, there should be a media ban put on the Eddie Murphy Cup and hopefully it will go away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on June 27, 2007, 10:07:18 PM
I wonder how CJ will cope with the overnight stay in Kilkenny? Just a thought, maybe the oul boy or Shaws Rd could bring the bedtime stories book with them.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 28, 2007, 09:17:35 AM
K O'Boyle hospitalised with suspected dislocated showlder last night in Gort namona game. horrible blow for him, just gettin back really.

G O'Boyle sent off also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2007, 09:43:06 AM
Can anyone fire the results up here from last night's games...again can't get on it at work.

Not sure if there was a lack of pride against Derry...a lack of quite a few others things fair enough.

Shame about Kevin O'Boyle.
G'OBoyle sent off for striking? Back for championship then?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 28, 2007, 10:07:52 AM
Wednesday 27th June 2007

Division 1 Football

St. Johns  2-6 2-14 Creggan Kickhams
Cargin  1-13 1-6 Gort Na Mona 
St. Pauls  3-9 1-13 St. Galls   
Dunloy  1-2 2-13 Portglenone 
 
Division 2 Football
   
St. Brigids B 1-10 0-6 Glenravel   
Rasharkin  1-7 2-7 St. Endas
Sarsfields  0-11 1-8 Aghagallon     
Davitts  1-4 2-13 Rossa   
All Saints  3-10 0-12 Mc Dermotts   

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2007, 10:48:28 AM
Cheers.

Handy enough wins for Creggan, Cargin and Portglenone. St Galls run close by St Pauls.

And Division 2...St Enda's must be going rightly to beat Rasharkin. Good wins for Ballymena and Rossa. St Brigids decent result against Glenravel.

Anyone at any of the games last night then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 28, 2007, 11:08:34 AM
as far as i can see St Galls wer more than run close- they wer beat!

St Pauls wont b the pushover a lot of wans think they wil b come c'ship time. the nxt few weeks they'll b startin to shape up. wont b an easy game for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2007, 11:23:54 AM
fcuk so they were...I don't function till lunchtime.
Great result for them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 28, 2007, 05:03:07 PM
Headin off to Sligo tomorrow with the county representaties in the Feile Peil nOg, Sean Stinsons.

They are worthy county champions, as most who have seen them in action will agree.

In a tough group, division three, with eleven other teams, including the county champions of Monaghan, Sligo, Roscommon,westmeath, offaly, Louth, Fermanagh,Limerick, Carlow and Leitrim.

Will report back on their progress on Monday. Have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 02, 2007, 01:45:38 PM
Antrim 3-32 Kilkenny 1-0. I have dreamed about that score since I was a boy  ;D

Antrim win a football match by 38 points & nothing on this thread about it.

Burn the sticks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 02, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
probably cos nobody really gives a flying fcuk about a trouncing of Kilkenny!

(a team which contained at least 1 player who didnt know he was playing until the morning of the game and hadnt played a Gaelic Football match in years and NEVER played for Kilkenny!!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2007, 03:06:25 PM
Pollock, D OHagan and MGaule came on.

Who's D O'Hagan - I assume that's the St Brigids boy? Gees I'd not have thought that boy was near county standard if it's the same boy, no harm to him..

M.Gault?? No idea who that is - anyone know??

Good to see Dougan back on the panel.(He was away wasn't he). He's a useful forward that boy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 02, 2007, 03:13:32 PM
MGaule should read M Magill, for certain. all subs bar 2 got on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on July 02, 2007, 04:33:22 PM
Slim
I was on the hoganstand website and I see Cargin are getting a wee bit of criticism over their handling of young O'Boyle. Is it warranted?
When O'Boyle dislocated and broke his collarbone, was the challenges abnormal or were you surprised that O'Boyle got hurt?

Just interested, not throwing accusations at Cargin. I know that Darrell Martin went through hell for a couple of seasons due to a dislocated shoulder, but in the long run it made him a better player as he went through a rigorous strength development program that stood by him in later years. I think that the same is possible for Kevin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 03, 2007, 08:49:52 AM
Quote from: CSC on July 02, 2007, 04:33:22 PM
Slim
I was on the hoganstand website and I see Cargin are getting a wee bit of criticism over their handling of young O'Boyle. Is it warranted?
When O'Boyle dislocated and broke his collarbone, was the challenges abnormal or were you surprised that O'Boyle got hurt?

Just interested, not throwing accusations at Cargin. I know that Darrell Martin went through hell for a couple of seasons due to a dislocated shoulder, but in the long run it made him a better player as he went through a rigorous strength development program that stood by him in later years. I think that the same is possible for Kevin


get a grip. the 'challenge' in the u21 final was more of an assault by a St Johns player. and his latest injury couldnt have been helped with weights, steroids, shoulder pads etc etc etc, it was just a very very unlucky incident! to put any blame on Cargin for this is the height of idiocy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 03, 2007, 09:43:22 AM
John Joe why are the Stintons playing in the grade 3 of the feile? Surely two clubs that join together are strong enough for the grade 1 level. Some achievment for Magherafelt. Best u14 team in Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: In the Onion Bag on July 03, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Dear Antrim Gaels, -  pardon this intrusion by a Co Down hoore onto your thread but I need local North Antrim advice please. 

I help manage an average reserve football team (i.e. presently close to top of the East Down Reseve League).  We are planning a weekend residential symposium on the North Coast over then next fortnight.

The symposium is to better develop the players' understanding of the of finer social & cultural aspects of belonging to a GAA Club.  Although the trip will mainly focus on discussing the finer theory of the game, its role in the community, rules & referees, etc, etc we would also like to include an actual game against a club of similar standard.  Perhaps on the Friday eveing, Saturday or Sunday morning/afternoon.  We will be based on the north coast close to Balycastle.  Anyone know of any 'nearish' football clubs I could approach about a friendly?

Also, any advice on good 'GAA-minded' (hurling/football/Ir Music, anything really) pubs that we might include as part of the 'exploring the cultural aspects or our great Association' itinary. 
Local advice would also be useful on any establishments that are unlikely to match the cultural & learing needs our lads a would best be avoided.

Thanks for any help you can give.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 03, 2007, 11:08:22 AM
Max, Thats one to ask the Feile Committee. As far as i know it has somehting to do with the Division your county played int he previous year.  If a team from a county wins a division one year i think they are in a division higher the next year.
Stinsons actually beat Magherafelt in a friendly before the Feile Finals but you can't read too much into that.

Onion Bag, Ballycastle may be your best bet for a friendly in that area.  They play in Division 6.  Dunloy of Glenravel would probably be the other closest teams but they play in Division 1 and 2.

A website that might be of interest: http://www.glensofantrimsportsretreat.com/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 03, 2007, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: In the Onion Bag on July 03, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Dear Antrim Gaels, -  pardon this intrusion by a Co Down hoore onto your thread but I need local North Antrim advice please. 

I help manage an average reserve football team (i.e. presently close to top of the East Down Reseve League).  We are planning a weekend residential symposium on the North Coast over then next fortnight.

The symposium is to better develop the players' understanding of the of finer social & cultural aspects of belonging to a GAA Club.  Although the trip will mainly focus on discussing the finer theory of the game, its role in the community, rules & referees, etc, etc we would also like to include an actual game against a club of similar standard.  Perhaps on the Friday eveing, Saturday or Sunday morning/afternoon.  We will be based on the north coast close to Balycastle.  Anyone know of any 'nearish' football clubs I could approach about a friendly?

Also, any advice on good 'GAA-minded' (hurling/football/Ir Music, anything really) pubs that we might include as part of the 'exploring the cultural aspects or our great Association' itinary. 
Local advice would also be useful on any establishments that are unlikely to match the cultural & learing needs our lads a would best be avoided.

Thanks for any help you can give.

my club (Cargin) are crying out for reserve friendlies at present. you could play us on the Friday evening and head on up to the North Coast afterwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2007, 12:11:10 PM
Dunloy and Glenravel reserves play in division 6 as well as Ballycastle so one of those three would likely be your best bet.

Cargin reserves would beat a lot of senior teams so unless you're of a particularly high standard I would stay away from them. By high I would say you'd need to be top 3 or 4 reserve teams in Down. No idea what standard East Down reserve league is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 03, 2007, 12:15:29 PM
They couldn't beat bellaghy 3rds :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 03, 2007, 12:26:05 PM
exactly! tho they had a lot missin by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
From what I read not too sure Bellaghy 1sts could beat Bellaghy 3rds!!

Scoring forward, leaders and all sorts in that 3rd team!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 07, 2007, 06:47:44 PM
I hear McGourty hit a hat-trick against London today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on July 07, 2007, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 07, 2007, 06:47:44 PM
I hear McGourty hit a hat-trick against London today.

A helluva an achievement in anyones books...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 10, 2007, 07:08:19 PM
in fairness maximus bellaghy are hardly setting the world alight this season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 11, 2007, 12:12:56 AM
What more would ye want at this time of the year...second in the league and the championship starts proper for us at the end of August. Hard to keep a good thing down :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
if you qualify.a bellaghy man i know said if we dont beat kilrewa we should give up...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 11, 2007, 05:46:12 PM
Seagan An Diomais - can any Saffron Gaels tell me much about this successful dual club from the early 1900s. I know the great Harry Sheehan played for them (today's archive section of the Irish News letters - although they have it as Sean a' Diomas). Where were they based? Any info would be great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 11, 2007, 06:39:58 PM
i'd imagine he is related the the Sheehan's from Naomh Gall.

there are still Sheehans playing football and hurling also the current senior manager is a Sheehan. i think they (sheehan) were some of the founder members of Naomh Gall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 11, 2007, 06:48:38 PM
Yes, he is a relation (grandfather) to some of the Sheehans at St Galls. I suppose the Galls link makes sense, although the history section states that St Galls were founded in 1910, with no mention of the 'Seans' as the IN calls them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on July 12, 2007, 01:29:11 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/history/senior-championship-winners/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on July 14, 2007, 01:23:36 PM
Anyone know if the Clare match is on the radio anywhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermPundit on July 14, 2007, 03:03:42 PM
GAA coverage on Clare FM. Updates from all games.

http://www.clarefm.ie/

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on July 14, 2007, 03:33:02 PM
Antrim win 0-10 to 1-11, listened to it on the above station, thanks FP. the commentators were full of praise for the way Antrim played and mentioned that Antrim were very professional in their approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 09:49:09 AM
This thread has died a death.

Some interesting results over the weekend in the intermediate championship.
Thought Moneyglass would be too strong for Glenavy.
Any posters at the matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 23, 2007, 01:30:47 PM
Anyone post all the results from the intermediate championship up here.

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 02:49:34 PM
Glenravel     1-14    0-4   Mc Dermotts
Aldergrove    1-6   0-14   All Saints
Aghagallon    1-14    2-6   Davitts
Moneyglass    2-10   3-10   Glenavy
Dunloy              2-15    1-10   Sarsfields
Ardoyne     1-9    1-6   St. Teresas
Rossa               1-11     1-11   St. Endas

That leaves

1 Aghagallon v Rossa/St Enda's
2 All Saints v Tir na nOg
3 Glenavy v Glenravel
4 Dunloy v Ardoyne

Semi's:
4 v 2
3 v 1


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 23, 2007, 03:01:14 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 02:49:34 PM
Glenravel     1-14    0-4   Mc Dermotts
Aldergrove    1-6   0-14   All Saints
Aghagallon    1-14    2-6   Davitts
Moneyglass    2-10   3-10   Glenavy
Dunloy              2-15    1-10   Sarsfields
Ardoyne     1-9    1-6   St. Teresas
Rossa               1-11     1-11   St. Endas

That leaves

1 Aghagallon v Rossa/St Enda's
2 All Saints v Tit na nOg
3 Glenavy v Glenravel
4 Dunloy v Ardoyne

Semi's:
4 v 2
3 v 1




I dont think the Whitehill lads will be too happy calln them that rash!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 03:54:55 PM

A freudian slip...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on July 23, 2007, 04:34:28 PM
You wud have to fancy a Dunloy v Glenravel final!!

wat does anyone think about the senior championship this weekend?

galls shud put the lamhs to the slaughter, pardon the pun.

cargin & st pauls shud be an interesting one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on July 25, 2007, 11:21:19 AM
i fancy st pauls to cause an upset on sunday... for a change i think cargin will be intimidated and st pauls have revenge on their mind for the league result earlier in the year... Justy tomas and michael mccann wont get the room they are used to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2007, 01:46:53 PM
Also saw that on account of this Rossa have been thrown out and St Endas progress to the next round. Can anyone shed any light on this rumour?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 26, 2007, 03:55:58 PM
think the game against The lamhs tomorrow will be a lot tougher than people think. we have not really clicked this year good numbers down the last few times at training but hunger seems to be still missing, hope i'm wrong and i'll have a nice pint in Casement afterwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 26, 2007, 04:13:53 PM
there wont be any big surprises here, the team has picked itself for the past 4/5 years. two mcgourty's still away but everybody back and fit, sean kelly back and looking very sharp at training and thats a big plus,

defence will very hard to win ball from and up front we have the potential but i'm afraid this game will end up like the hurling game on Sunday, a game plenty of with frees and stop starts. the two teams hate each other for some reason so expect a couple of scuffles.

heard a rumour Paddy Cunningham is looking to play for another team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2007, 12:36:19 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 26, 2007, 04:34:43 PM
Quoteheard a rumour Paddy Cunningham is looking to play for another team
I have just heard that rumour myself. The rumour that I heard is that he is to become a St. Galls man.

What? Is the travelling getting too much for him? Doesn't say much about the person does it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 27, 2007, 12:39:06 AM
I have it on dvd already-i'll lend u it if u want and u can watch it after the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 27, 2007, 09:07:57 AM
people in belfast clubs transfer all the time, internal politics/fighting it's difficult for players to enjoy playing hurling /football for a club when you dont get on with the team.

I'm not in favour of moving from club to club but does he just stop playing? he'd be a big player for any club, not sure if he's coming to Naomh Gall though, if he's leaving at all that is. these rumours can have a life of their own  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2007, 09:48:32 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 27, 2007, 09:07:57 AM
people in belfast clubs transfer all the time, internal politics/fighting it's difficult for players to enjoy playing hurling /football for a club when you dont get on with the team.

I'm not in favour of moving from club to club but does he just stop playing? he'd be a big player for any club, not sure if he's coming to Naomh Gall though, if he's leaving at all that is. these rumours can have a life of their own  ;)

These people who tranfer all the time milltown would not do so if there was a chance of success at the club he/she was at. The GAA is about the club not the self. Boys who transfer more often than not are in it for themselves and do nothing for the GAA in the long run. It's very easy to manufacture "understandable situations" which makes it easy for a player to walk away from his club. I've no doubt these "reasons" (if it is indeed more than a rumour) will be bandied about to justfiy things

On a side note milltown....what benefits do you think the country outsiders (raff, mccrory etc etc) brought to your senior set up. Did they instill a different ethic in the team/club compared to say an all city group of players would have brought?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on July 27, 2007, 09:59:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2007, 09:48:32 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 27, 2007, 09:07:57 AM
people in belfast clubs transfer all the time, internal politics/fighting it's difficult for players to enjoy playing hurling /football for a club when you dont get on with the team.

I'm not in favour of moving from club to club but does he just stop playing? he'd be a big player for any club, not sure if he's coming to Naomh Gall though, if he's leaving at all that is. these rumours can have a life of their own  ;)

These people who tranfer all the time milltown would not do so if there was a chance of success at the club he/she was at. The GAA is about the club not the self. Boys who transfer more often than not are in it for themselves and do nothing for the GAA in the long run. It's very easy to manufacture "understandable situations" which makes it easy for a player to walk away from his club. I've no doubt these "reasons" (if it is indeed more than a rumour) will be bandied about to justfiy things

On a side note milltown....what benefits do you think the country outsiders (raff, mccrory etc etc) brought to your senior set up. Did they instill a different ethic in the team/club compared to say an all city group of players would have brought?

Have to agree Skull, as Declan Browne said last night there were overtures for him to play for different counties but if he couldnt win an All Ireland with Tipp he wasnt interested. That is the great thing about the GAA,playing with the fellas you grew up with. I know if i went to play for Cushendall and won an All Ireland Club medal it wouldnt mean anything to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 27, 2007, 10:47:15 AM
the 'outsiders' that came to our club are just that, outsiders, very rarely would they drink or have friends from within the club.

they have come from the contry to belfast for work and joined a club to save the journey home each week. some ( like Rafferty) go back to their home teams and play at the junior side of things 

the sucess of our football team has a lot more to do with the structures that were in place before these lads got to senior, four players on the all ireland team would have been classed as Country men the rest all played at juvenile level.

the hurlers well thats a different story all together, they are all Galls men born and bred into the team. the craic compared to the footballers is a world apart, maybe a reason why we have not made the break through.

so to answer your point country men do have a different attitude to training and looking after themselves than city folk, but during that run the work ethic was no different bewteen the city boys and country lads, Rafferty had a affilation with the club having played for 8/9 years with us. so he was committed

hurlers very rarely transfer between clubs footballers are very fickle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2007, 11:08:17 AM
To be honest moving club, especially within such close proximity, says a lot about a person with loyalties etc.

With regard to Rafferty, McRory etc. at St Galls those boys have a long way to travel and their decisions are understandable but there are a vast number of boys from within Belfast who have shifted between clubs for what it seems is just glory. You talk to boys from smaller clubs like for example O'Donnells and they had very good players jump ship for glory.

Realistically Cunningham will win nothing major with Lamh Dhearg. The only reason Lamh Dhearg are as good as they are is because of Cunningham. They are better than most in Antrim but are no world beaters either. Even saying that though they're his club he grew up with them etc. and should stay. I hope the rumours are wrong for two reasons 1) it would make me think a lot less of him and 2) st galls would become very very hard to beat with him and young mcgourty in the FF line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on July 27, 2007, 11:23:17 AM
I go up and down to training from Belfast, 100 mile round trip. People that dont know much about the GAA always ask why i dont play for a team in Belfast, if i ever won anything with them it would mean absolutely nothing to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 28, 2007, 01:23:59 AM
was at the LD v St Galls game tonight-

st galls won by 7--  2-6-0-5

Aidso gallagher was sent off 5mins before half time with the sides level--galls scored a point to go in 1-2--0-4 ahead

LD were useless in 2nd half--if they couldnt beat a team minus aidso, kev and kieran mcgourt--then they'll never beat them --they couldnt beat the back door

LD's didnt have one forward on the field, not one--difference between the teams was galls had kark stewart and CJ in forward line and LD had nothin bar maybe micko.

Most of LD's startin forwards are defenders in my opinion--they had most of the ball but just went sideways when they were 40yards out before hoofing the ball wide or not even wide and hittin the corner flag.

for me Karl Stew was the differnece--first to the ball, deadly from frees-was either taken down or he scored--leathal
Title: Antrim SFC Preliminary Shock
Post by: aontroim on July 29, 2007, 08:40:29 PM
Cargin 0-6 v 1-4 St. Paul's - heard there was a big shock in tonight's game with St. Pauls snatching the win with a late penalty  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2007, 09:01:32 AM
does this result make St Pauls the favourites? can we have a match report from mister Slim Shady, not sure if there are any real 'Shaws Road' men on the board.

the game against Lamhs on friday night was terrible, Lamhs played 2 men on CJ he still scored 2-2, in the secondhalf they still played the extra man in defence when they were a man up!!! so they had an extra man on cj and Karl Stewart. pure madness they scored one point i think in the second half.

we were dreadful in the first half with 15 men but played a lot better with 14 men, Aidso was silly, Micko had a wee sly dig at him and a rush of blood saw Aidso off. Micko for a big lad fairly threw himself to the ground.

we have put them out of both championships. Micko made a fool of himself after the match by coming over to the crowd and inviting the Galls supporters down for a fight!!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 30, 2007, 10:13:36 AM
Cargin gone...where is Slim Shady when you need him :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2007, 11:07:44 AM
0-6 to 1-4 and the weather wasn't bad yesterday either - hardly a prolific affair!

Looks like St Galls could walk this now especially as they have Kevin and Kieran McGourty to come back. St Pauls have a bad record of late against St Galls.

Micko has a lot of ability at football and hurling but if he doesn't buck his attitude up he will fast go the same road as Kevin McGourty. He should take a leaf out of his brother Ciaran's(Herron I mean here) book who has always let his hurling, and football when playing football, do the talking. A man with a lot of ability who by continually doing nothing but acting the b*****s is letting it go to waste. The man spends more time in club matches moaning at referees than playing football. He didn't do that in the sigerson for he knew McGuckin would haul him straight off.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2007, 11:45:08 AM
Won't go into a full match report but suffice to say that the Cargin St Pauls match was a pretty dire affair all round. Anyone in attendance from St Galls and to a lesser extend Creggan must be rubbing their hands.

The weather was not far off perfect to be honest, a bit of damp on the ground but a decent enough pitch at Ahoghill and a slight breeze.

The standard was pretty shocking all round (with the exception of Michael McCann who, for about 15 minutes in the 2nd half, lit the game up with a few great catches and by simply taking more than one second before hoofing the ball away).

Cargin were most definitely the superior team, better on the ball and better skills generally but I think they became complacent with everyone thinking someone else was going to step up and stick over a couple. They were too interested in diving (Eoin O'Neill looked like a sniper had taken him out a couple of times) and their big lump of a midfielder (Eddie?) was too interested in hitting boys late/off the ball. The one time he actually went on a solo and struck a pass through in the first half it was a great ball through from which they got a point.

Mc Greevy pulled off a couple of great saves in the first half.

I can't see St Pauls troubling either St Galls/Creggan to be honest. They were pretty limited on the ball. In fariness to them they were tough tackling and crowded Cargin out a few times but outside of that they didn't offer much.
I think it was Joe O'Neill who came on for them and he added a bit of class that had been lacking.

Someone said to me after it it throws the draw wide open. It doesn't. It just means St Galls are that one step nearer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 12:19:47 PM
Milltown....I hear the St Galls and Lamh Dhearg boys were boxing in the town on Friday night after the match. Anyone shed any light?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2007, 04:31:06 PM
yes aidso got a bit of a digging from a crowd from Lamhs outside TG's some of our lads were distracted by the chippy van and didn't see it untill he was felled. they all got stuck in then cops came broke up fight and one of the lamhs men punched the cop (the comon enemy) and was duly arrested, spent night in cells.

thats what happens when you knock a team out of both championships in a week.

although i find it a bit crap that teams will bring their fights off the field, this is certainly not a belfast thing, maybe the county boys knock lumps out of themselves but it would not be comon here. but there seems to be bad blood between these teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2007, 05:13:03 PM
"Maybe the country boys". Wind your neck in.

It was probably because the Lamhs are in effect from the country that is happened?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on July 30, 2007, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 30, 2007, 04:31:06 PM

thats what happens when you knock a team out of both championships in a week.

Surely Lamh Dhearg still have to play another 3 championship games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2007, 12:06:07 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 30, 2007, 04:31:06 PM
although i find it a bit crap that teams will bring their fights off the field, this is certainly not a belfast thing, maybe the county boys knock lumps out of themselves but it would not be comon here. but there seems to be bad blood between these teams

Not normal for you to shit stir milltown? Did you fall out with the wife?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2007, 08:38:57 AM
I hear what you are saying hardstation but it could have been said without bring country teams into it (hence why I thought he was stiirring...which I might add is not milltowns form).
Can't deny that fights between crowds from different villages has taken place on nights out as tribalism does play a part once the first dig between two drunks is thrown, but I wouldn't be too quick to say that they were all GAA related scurmishes. You might as well blame the parish churches for having some responsibility as well if we are going down that road. Most times fights just start between two dickheads (well one at least) with too many drinks or testesterone in their blood and theres nothing voices of reason can do about it other than pull them apart, but if a crowd of GAA members take into one GAA member from a rival club then that is a a much more sinister scenario.
I can also tell you that Dunloy members have travelled to Cushendall/Cargin/Ahoghill after their championship successes over the years and we ourselves have been visited by Cushendall/Ballycastle/Cushendun/Loughiel/Rasharkin/Armoy when we have had success. Dunloy even travelled over to loughgiel with the volunteer cup the first couple of times we won the championship and were warmly recieved by everyone so the country clubs celebrate with other clubs successes the same as youse do in belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 31, 2007, 09:39:36 AM
Was not having a dig at the country boys, your right skull not my form, I'd like more Belfast clubs to have that Parish togetherness, and we would win more Championships if we did. I had asked a country man from work before I posted on the form; again this is just from what he said.

Hardstation was on the money with his thoughts. So if boys are annoyed I'll take it back. It wrangles me about what happened though. It could have been a lot worse for the lad in question had other lads not weighed in as the cops were there but failed to move in.

My point is this, whistle goes that's it that's the way it's been for years, now we have people throwing themselves to the ground (ok as I get older I'm falling a lot more, age thing) but looking to get people sent off it's just not GAA. You only have to look at how Dublin got on against Laois. 

A short story on the going to clubs afterwards (championship finals) we played McDermott's in the Junior hurling final a few years ago and in the 7 minute of injury time we scored a goal to win by a point. Mc Dees had their kids on the pitch with flags thinking they had won; McDees went into changing rooms and wreck the place. We were in the club afterwards feeling good, but after a while we headed down to the Macs, they took us in and free beer and banter, no problems. The following year they beat us in the final and invited us all down big party free drinks and a good night. That's why I find the going ons strange and out of character for Belfast clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 31, 2007, 10:12:01 AM
WHERE IS SLIM SHADY :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2007, 11:22:13 AM
Anyone for croker on saturday?

It's all very quiet. I , for one, am looking forward to seeing the footballers get a game in croker. It'll be the first time I've ever seen them there.

Any predictions? Wicklow will be fit and up for it with Micko about. They'll be hard to beat but sure a few goals from CJ might do the trick...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 31, 2007, 02:21:20 PM
Hard one to call for Saturday. Wicklow won earlier in the year but suppose that doesn't mean that much now come "championship" time (I have been asking friends from down south for the last few weeks are they off to see Antrim in the All Ireland final...much confusion).

Hopefully there is a bit of support out there for them. I'll be there anyway. Anyone else?

As regards CJ am not jumping on the bandwagon just yet...but he certainly has the makings.
Heard a comedy story about him v Portglenone in a recent league game. St Galls down by a point and he lands out to the referee.
GOD/CJ "How long left ref?"
REF "About 3 minutes"
GOD/CJ "Thats long enough for me".
He promptly bangs over two points and St Galls win the game.
Heard that from a Portglenone fella who was playing.
Comedy.

Though I am not sure for definite I think Slim may have been playing for Cargin on Sunday. Hard one to take. The game should have been won a long time before the penaly at the end.


PS for what its worth I do agree with your general sentiment Hardstation as well...have always generally been impressed that the Galls/Johnies/Rossa boys are often seen out together and watching matches together. That wouldn't generally happen with most country clubs. But in agreement with Skull no need to bring the country boys in on this incident.
Hope that's the end of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 31, 2007, 03:15:31 PM
Wasn't Slim in goals - was the normal Cargin keeper who was playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 01, 2007, 11:10:47 AM
WHERE IS SLIM SHADY?                                                                                               WHERE IS SLIM SHADY?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on August 01, 2007, 02:24:27 PM
what about the match on sunday.. cargin very gracious in defeat... however they were far to cocky... dealtach johnston is an arse... laughinh through the whole match... no laughinh now hey boy are ya... i am first to admit that our performance going forward was poor.... but we did what we had to do to win!! our style of play willl be totally different against Gort na Mona... noamh pol abu
Title: TMC Final
Post by: aontroim on August 01, 2007, 02:56:02 PM
Team for Saturday - few prodigal sons have returned

1.  Sean McGreevy - St. Pauls
2.  Paul Close - Rossa
3.  Paul Doherty - St. Marys Rasharkin
4.  James Loughrey - St Brigids
5.  Sean Kelly - St. Galls
6.  Eoin O'Neill - Erins Own Cargin
7.  Justin Crozier - Erins Own Cargin
8.  Joe Quinn - St. Pauls
9.  Darrell Martin - Kickhams Creggan
10. Aodhan Gallagher - St. Galls
11. Kevin Niblock - St. Galls
12. Kevin Brady - St. Ergnat's Moneyglass
13. Ciaran Close - Erins Own Cargin
14. Michael McCann - Erins Own Cargin
15. Conor McGourty - St. Galls

16. John Finucane - Lamh Dhearg
17. Gavin Bell - Rossa
18. Sean McVeigh - All Saints Ballymena
19. Mark Dougan - Kickhams Creggan
20. Michael Magill - Tir Na nóg Randalstown
21. Conor McGoldrick - St. Teresa's
22. Mickey Rea - St. Joseph Glenavy
23. Paddy Logan - All Saints Ballymena
24. Brendan Hasson - St. Marys Rasharkin
25. Liam Carland - St. Pauls
26. Michael Pollock - Gort Na Mona
27. Declan O'Hagan - St. Brigids
28. Colin Brady - St. Galls
29. Tony Convery - Portglenone
30 Leon Bonnes - Kickhams Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 01, 2007, 03:37:27 PM
Paul Close corner back? Some Tom Foolery on the go here?

Personally I think Sean McVeigh is a much better option than Joe Quinn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 01, 2007, 03:56:17 PM
Paul Close corner back?? Has he ever even played there before in his life??

I'd have thought Sean McVeigh is hard done by not to be playing and personally I don't think Eoin O'Neill cuts it at this level but all that aside not really too many surprise. Glad to see Gallagher isn't suspended for this one as it'd be a shame for him to miss out.

I would expect there to be a few positional switches before the start of the game or have Wicklow got some flying machine of a corner forward tha they want Scoose to take care of??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2007, 04:40:14 PM
ok paul close not a corner back but will we win with this team? looks strong enough and Sean Kelly played well against the Lamhs and CJ was a class apart, will the Cargin boys be up for the match considering the defeat to St Pauls?

and where is Slim? must be on Holiday :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2007, 04:49:31 PM
in Antrim it was never really about how good you were, it was who liked you, personally.

have they had any challenge games lately or what has training been like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 07:03:22 PM
I hope there is some sort of civic reception arranged when our lads beat the mighty men from Wicklow, maybe an open top bus tour up the Andytown road finishing at Casement. Anything less would be a total insult to the players and their achievement in beating Kilkenny, London, Outer Mongolia, Rathlin Island and Clare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on August 01, 2007, 07:51:37 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 07:03:22 PM
I hope there is some sort of civic reception arranged when our lads beat the mighty men from Wicklow, maybe an open top bus tour up the Andytown road finishing at Casement. Anything less would be a total insult to the players and their achievement in beating Kilkenny, London, Outer Mongolia, Rathlin Island and Clare.

I sense a little sarcasm here Balboa, not a big fan then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on August 01, 2007, 07:51:37 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 07:03:22 PM
I hope there is some sort of civic reception arranged when our lads beat the mighty men from Wicklow, maybe an open top bus tour up the Andytown road finishing at Casement. Anything less would be a total insult to the players and their achievement in beating Kilkenny, London, Outer Mongolia, Rathlin Island and Clare.

I sense a little sarcasm here Balboa, not a big fan then?

I just think the competition is a load of bollocks and does not benefit anyone. I think when Kilkenny entered the competition it lost whatever little credibility it had.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 02, 2007, 08:35:13 AM
a bit like the Christy ring cup and Rackard cup then :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on August 02, 2007, 09:30:18 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 02, 2007, 08:35:13 AM
a bit like the Christy ring cup and Rackard cup then :-\

I think the Rackard & Ring have probably more to offer,especially this year. This was Armagh's first Ulster Championship in years and they have now a final in Croke Park so there is obviously good work being done & the Ring & Rackard involve teams that do not play in their provincial championship so the extra games are a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 02, 2007, 10:19:41 AM
Where is Slim Shady?                                       Where is Slim Shady?[[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 02, 2007, 10:23:45 AM
rocky, the competition maybe is treated as a pile of horse manure by most, some in other counties dont even know the final is on this weekend or who is playing.
we are in it for a reason, we play div 4 football next year.
but jody gormley and the senior panel are using it to try and improve themselves and fair dues they have got their big day out in croker, how many of us can say theyve been there, done it and got the t-shirt.
and IF they beat wicklow, which i hope to god they do, but i wudnt underestimate any mick o'dwyer team, they get a trip to america.
so tell me if you were on the county panel would you want to play in tommy murphy cup ?

NEWSFLASH

There has been a sighting of one white cocasian male, who goes by the name of The Real Slim Shady!
He was last seen entering a cinema in the toome area, wearing a Homer Simpson mask! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 02, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step..." 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 02, 2007, 10:29:37 AM
I think that Jody deserves great credit for getting the Antrim players to have the interest to play and win this competion. Winning breeds confidence and creates an atmosphere of progress which other less interested players who have good ability might want to connitt to properly to Antrim advantage. Hope they win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 02, 2007, 10:52:06 AM
did my eyes deceive me, max hopes antrim win!  :o

antrim have a good group of dedicated players who have been training since oct or nov time, this is their reward for their committment, lets hope it pays off.
i dont agree with certain players being back on the panel, just because they thought their was a chance of glory. the like of mark dummy runs dougan an big mihall duck eggs an blue moulded sodas magill. they undoubtedly have the talent, but i personally think they're only there for the good time.
but its up to jody to decide that.

also max i hope derry get tore into those scummy bigheaded dubs, i would be glad to see them gettin put out. they think because they have won 3 leinster titles in a row they are world beaters. they in my mind are not unbeatable in croke park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 02, 2007, 10:56:09 AM
Agree 100% with Maximus, OK the Tommy Murphy does not set the world alight but don't forget we're in it becasue we're a Div 4 team!  I've been championship games where the match was there to be won by Antrim and we ended up losing by 3 or 4 points...one of the reasons IMHO was that we weren't used to winning.  We need to gid rid of the glorious failure mindset and build a squad used to winning and the TMC is as good a place to start as any.  I remind people of the Mickey Harte mantra that "We try to win every competition we're in".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Edge of the Square on August 02, 2007, 11:30:04 AM
I have to say, its great news to see boys like Magill and Dougan back on the panel. (Just wish McGourty was there too! :o ;)). Coming up to championship time v derry you'd hardly have knew one player on the bench bar the lads from Antrims Division 1 clubs. I know Magill isnt a Division 1 player but hes already proved his class v Fermanagh and in the National League campaign of 2006 that preceeded that game. Basically, Antrim need the best players from their top flight clubs in their team. Unfortunately after Division 1, there is nothing left to pick from, no Stevie Macs in the Saffron county, just wannabes who are happy collecting the tracksuit and a 10 min appearance at the end of a meaningless national League game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: give her long on August 02, 2007, 11:51:18 AM
What is quite apparent culchy1 is that the fact that dougan and magill are there hurts you in some way or you have some sort of infactuation with them.  Perhaps you are below them in the subs list?????.  Edge of the square made a good point - if them two lads being there have stopped two players getting their tracksuits then what has the gaa come too.  The lads are there for ability,  'dummy runs' and 'duck eggs' may not be the best players in the county but they are in the top three at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on August 02, 2007, 12:11:31 PM
 Intermediate Football Championship

Aghagallon  3-13 1-21 St. Endas 

Serious high scoring match last night if correct, St Endas play either us or Glenavy in the semi final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 02, 2007, 12:26:41 PM
No one has ever doubted Magill or Dougan`s ability. Personally I`m delighted to have them back, and I think if we are going to beat Wicklow, they will be needed at some stage in the match. I`d say both were a bit careless with the committment thing earlier in the year, and with lessons learned, Antrim football will be a lot better for their inclusion. Definitely two excellent talents.

Well done to Jody and good luck to all involved on Saturday. It wont be easy, but lets hope we win, and put down a marker for next season. Will be kicking every ball with you!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on August 03, 2007, 08:36:40 AM
Intermediate Football Championship

Aghagallon 3-13 St Enda's 1-21

Was indeed the correct score, although extra time was played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2007, 11:33:27 AM
Not much comment on the tommy murphy cup here.

I have to say that I'm looking forward to seeing the footballers play in croke park. I know this is perceived as a "mickey mouse" competition but I think Jody has done well to keep focus in the squad to get this far - you only have to remember that last year we couldn't beat Clare in casement and this year we beat them in Clare. I think the winning and getting this far will breed a bit more confidence too.

Regarding Aghagallon - St Endas. Reading on other sites it still seems like rossa may go to the ulster council about this so that whole saga may not be over. Hopefully it doesn't mess the whole competition up.

Magill and Dougan should be in the squad - they're two decent footballers and it's good to see them there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 03, 2007, 11:37:49 AM
QuoteI know this is perceived as a "mickey mouse" competition

Perceived my arse...it is amickey mouse compo, buts thats not Antrims fault, the tube powers that be refused to let Division 4 teams play in the qualifiers, which is an absolute disgrace( and I cant figure out why there was not an unholy row with Croke park for even suggestion it never mind getting away with it). So once again the best of luck to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
Well ok it is more than perceived but when else would we get a chance to play in croke park! It's the hand we've been dealt and we've done well with it so we may take the chance while we've got it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on August 03, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
irrespective of how this cup is perceived we are there, lets hope we can win it. Jody and the team have  put a lot of work into this and to play for your county in HQ is what it is all about!!

Good luck to all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Edge of the Square on August 03, 2007, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 03, 2007, 11:37:49 AM
QuoteI know this is perceived as a "mickey mouse" competition

Perceived my arse...it is amickey mouse compo

Max (charlie) why dont you piss off back to the Derry thread. The Tommy Cooper Cup rocks ::) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 03, 2007, 05:13:18 PM

Kelly and Niblock both doubtful, carrying injuries and havnt trained this week!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on August 04, 2007, 08:20:40 AM
Good luck Antrim. It won't be easy but let's hope they can rise to the occasion and bring the Cup North. Good that the games live on TV.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on August 04, 2007, 03:24:04 PM
was at an under 14 match so only seen the first 15 minutes, listened to a bit on the radio, gutted for the players and management, nothing worse that a last kick goal to knock the confidence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 06, 2007, 01:41:06 PM
Would just like to comiserate and congratulate Jody and the boys, for such a gallant effort on saturday.
IF only the ref had've blown for the kickout not being outisde the 21, IF only someone had've fouled them before they crossed the halfway line, IF only !!

with jody as manager, he showed his qualities on sat he knew when to make switches, and that panel of players we can go somewhere, maybe not sam maguire but div 4 next year would be a start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 06, 2007, 01:45:05 PM
Heard that Rossa have won there appeal to the Ulster council regarding them being chucked out of the intermediate championship.
Result is that St Enda's have to play them again, then Aghagallon are back in and they play the winners.

What a balls up!

In my opinion there are two parties at fault, CCC for even playing St Enda's Aghagallon when Rossa were appealing and,
Rossa for being a pack of whingers who can't accept fixtures and the rules that everyone else abides by.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2007, 03:20:46 PM
Gees Rossa always seem to get away with things...

Aghagallon should never have been brought into this. What was the need to play that match so much earlier than the rest of the games anyway?? Complete mess as usual.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 07, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
Slim Shady where are you...stop hiding                                                  Slim Shady where are you...stop hiding  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2007, 11:04:38 AM
Any predicitons for the senior championship this weekend?

Think its:
Friday night
St Galls v Rasharkin - pigs flying over Casement Friday night is more likely than Rasharkin beating them but hope they get stuck in and make a good account of themselves.

Sunday
Portglenone v St Brigids - can't see past Portglenone for this one. Playing Division 1 football is some difference to Div 2 and they seem to be going rightly having run a few of the bigger teams close.

Creggan v St Johns - Creggan to win handy enough I'd say. I would argue that Cargin (despite a league win this year over them) would have been Creggan's bogey team for the Championship...with them out hopefully they can do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 08, 2007, 12:19:30 PM
we should win in the end but it will be tight, like i've said before we are not firing yet and if a team clicks against us there could be a shock.

st pauls on paper should beat Gorts but it will be tough, st pauls did not rake up a big score in there last game so it should be tough.

by all accounts Creggan should win but St Johns are tough to crack in championship tough to call could be a draw.

st brigids should put up a good fight again should be very tight they have progressed from last year and this might be a shock for portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2007, 12:26:23 PM
I think Creggan are in for a big game in this one. A few years ago Portglenone were flying high and st johns dumped them out at the first hurdle. The johnnies in the championship are a different kettle of fish to the league.  This game will be much tighter than form would suggest.

St Brigids will really challenge Portglenone I think. I don't think Portglenone are a great team at all to be honest. They've a left footed free taker in your man McCallion and wee Gerard McAleese from play / frees but not that much more scoring threat. They have some solid players in Convery, McCarry and a few other boys but that asides they are no great shakes. I really think there could be a big shock in this one.

The other two will go the way of the favourites I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
Could be one worth watching then the Creggan Johnnies game.
Still think Creggan by 3

The St Pauls Gorts one could be tight as well. I haven't seen the Gorts play this year but I saw St Pauls beat Cargin and they were very poor in a poor match. If they have a couple of good supporting forwards and Pollock plays well the Gorts could win. St Pauls were limited in defence I felt...in fact if being honest they were limited all over.
Actually with the aid of hindsight (and not sheer glee as it was at the time) its a shame for Antrim football Cargin aren't there. They have some quality about them.
Gorts by 2.

Portglenone's big players are exactly that I think - Convery, McCarry, Storey, McKeever, Doherty and they rarely fail to deliver.
Portglenone by 8.

Not putting a number on Rasharkin/Galls.

We shall see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 08, 2007, 01:54:32 PM
Come out, come out, where ever you are Slim................................................Come out, come out, where ever you are Slim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 1912 on August 09, 2007, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 11, 2007, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 11, 2007, 05:46:12 PM
Seagan An Diomais - can any Saffron Gaels tell me much about this successful dual club from the early 1900s. I know the great Harry Sheehan played for them (today's archive section of the Irish News letters - although they have it as Sean a' Diomas). Where were they based? Any info would be great.
I'm not sure if I'm right on this one but I think they were based in the lower Falls and I think that St. Galls may have come from them.
They won a number of county titles in hurling and football in the early 1900s.

Repesented Antrim in 1911 and 1912 AI football final and county colours are now based from this club.  No connection with St Galls as they were founded in 1910.  By the way Harry Sheehan was captain in 1911 (not 1912) and was the first captain from Ulster to contest the all ireland final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2007, 12:26:36 AM
Were they swallowed up by St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on August 09, 2007, 10:48:45 AM
reply to glensman..... more like cargin man... st pauls can't win like... beat the county champions and stillget slated... jealousy is a powerful motive.....

i admit wasnt a pretty game... and it wasnt attacking football.... that was our game plan... we tried to match cargin with flowing lfootball in the league and we got beat 16-1....

as the old saying goes - leagues are for playing in and champs are for winning... we done what we had to to win the game andcargin couldnt hack it..

naomh pol abu... all you country ones stop your crying haha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 08:42:27 AM
slim where are you,when out last night to watch our thirds play your reserves/seniors/countyseniors to to see your good self in goal and i have to say you are one ugly man ;D,but your good at th short kick outs,must of been embarrasing for out third team to beat yous again even though you had a couple of seniors on and even a county man on(tony scullion) :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jim on August 10, 2007, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 08:42:27 AM
slim where are you,when out last night to watch our thirds play your reserves/seniors/countyseniors to to see your good self in goal and i have to say you are one ugly man ;D,but your good at th short kick outs,must of been embarrasing for out third team to beat yous again even though you had a couple of seniors on and even a county man on(tony scullion) :P
you obviously dont know too much about cargin. scullion was the only senior (and he only played a third) and he is ex county now. he is available for our reserve championship so of course he would be there. all the players last night have hardly played seniors at all this year except for when they are short. Plus the game finished a draw! At least 5 of your team would make your seniors if they wanted to so do they count as seniors??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 10, 2007, 01:14:49 PM
Wrong Jim, none of them would make our seniors thats why they play thirds, they either had been dropped or told they were not going to be in the picture...end of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: jim on August 10, 2007, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 08:42:27 AM
slim where are you,when out last night to watch our thirds play your reserves/seniors/countyseniors to to see your good self in goal and i have to say you are one ugly man ;D,but your good at th short kick outs,must of been embarrasing for out third team to beat yous again even though you had a couple of seniors on and even a county man on(tony scullion) :P
you obviously dont know too much about cargin. scullion was the only senior (and he only played a third) and he is ex county now. he is available for our reserve championship so of course he would be there. all the players last night have hardly played seniors at all this year except for when they are short. Plus the game finished a draw! At least 5 of your team would make your seniors if they wanted to so do they count as seniors??

you actually lost the match by two points 2:9 to 0:17,scullion was the only senior i reconised but the man i was standing beside(dont no his name but drives a light blue 405) told me there was a few senior men on,admittently he said they had been injured but still this was bellaghy thirds who had players who were over the hill or just not good enough for reserves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 01:49:24 PM
max do you think this jim is actually slim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 11, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
after watching last nights game against Gorts and St Pauls i have to say this, how bad are were Cargin getting beat by St Pauls and for Gorts to beat St Pauls. now last night Gorts were the better team from start to finish. first to the bal and good all round play and with Pollock in the team they will put it up to anyone.

our game was over after the referee blew his whistle to start the game, first point after 30 seconds followed by another and so on. by half time we had scored more than what Gorts did to beat St Pauls. we took of CJ Kevin Niblock and terry o Neill. which begs the question should division two teams be in the football championship?

after last night, no they should be playing interm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 11, 2007, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 11, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
which begs the question should division two teams be in the football championship?

after last night, no they should be playing interm.

take your arrogance back to the falls milltown - your attitude reeks of all that is wrong with your club - who are you to dictate to any club what championship they play - mitchells are free to enter SFC - up to individual clubs what level they pitch themselves at. will you think the same of st. brigid's tomorrow if they beat Portglenone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 11, 2007, 01:15:04 PM
any truth that mctoal had st pauls out trainin at 7 in the morning? if so, what where they doing?!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
aontroim, what was the result of the portglenone game? no arrogance just simple fact, division two teams are out of their depth. just like the hurling, division two teams would be out of their depth. unless your from one of those teams that play in division 2 and senior Championship.

Gorts play Portglenone and Naomh Gall play Creggan

think the dates are August 26th at Casement double header

i'll not be arrogant and guess the winners would not want aontroim giving off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 14, 2007, 09:55:19 AM
14-7 is hardly a tanking milltown - i'm not from any of the div 2 clubs playing sfc - just dont like elitist attitudes where football is concerned - especially in antrim.

would you rather have a 6 team SFC - bit of a joke no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 10:06:02 AM
nothing elitist about it, when we dropped down to division 2 a few years ago we also should have played interm. football championship.

there are ten teams in division one football. not six
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 14, 2007, 10:31:30 AM
St Brigids won the intermediate championship last year. Therefore the should and did play senior championship this year.
I attended both matches on Sunday and would actually say the St Brigids didn't looked out of their depth at all...they missed a few easy chances, a friend playing for them tells me they had quite a few boys carrying injuries etc and with a bit of a rub of the green who knows.
The Rasharkin St Galls game doesn't help the Div 2 argument but St Galls when they turn up (in my opinion) are still a bit above the rest of Antrim .

I would say that the Gorts and Portglenone will both be very happy with their draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 10:52:14 AM
totally agree intermediate champions should play the next level, but seven points in football is a tanking.

i fancy Gorts to improve, not sure of portglenone, they blow hot and cold. gorts have a serious hunger about them, they also had plenty of support play on the night good fitness levels and kept their discipline and won a lot of dirty ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 11:33:58 AM
Milltown with Cargin and Lamh Dhearg out there are realistically no teams that can challenge you at all. What you did to Rasharkin you could do to almost anyone. St Brigids aren't really that out of place in the senior championship and deserve to be there as they won the intermediate. Rasharkin have some fine players in Doherty, Hasson and McAleese but are maybe a bit thin on the ground in some other areas. I , to be honest, am surprised they are actually in division 2 at all. If the rules allow them to be in the senior then why shouldn't they be? You have to take into account that Dunloy, Moneyglass are in division 1 and you could probably beat them by more than you beat Rasharkin.

Your argument of division 2 teams in the senior holds the same water as an argument for division 1 teams in the intermediate. Dunloy and Moneyglass are in the intermediate and in division 1.

The Antrim scene in football is really very lop sided. St Galls and Cargin could field second teams who could beat a lot of teams first teams.

You may have a point about division 2 sides in the senior but your comments were ill formed and possibly came across as arrogant! You came up with this theory because you hammered Rasharkin - you have to realise that you could,and probably will, hammer most of the teams left and you are a club with the ability to do in Antrim what Crossmaglen have done in Armagh and the only one team in the whole county,I think, even remotely close to stopping that is Cargin and they blow hot and cold. Now if Creggan put it up to you I will eat a lot of those words but I'd be very surprised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 11:50:11 AM
yeah if the rules say you can enter senior then go ahead. will you win it? maybe not, could you win intermediate? possibly, and go on and represent your county in the ulster club. seems a better idea.

training from december to get beaten in the manner Rasharkin could put a club back a bit.

wining promotion to division one should put you in senior championship.

could Naomh Gall enter the intermediate Championship? 

it seems that the football and hurling in antrim is lop sided as only three teams can win both. dont think this has changed for the last 10 years.

like i say this is my opinion, i dont mean to come across as being arrogant

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 14, 2007, 12:28:55 PM
Can anyone teel me how the minor football c`ship is going. Who plays who next?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 01:36:15 PM
No harm in having an opinion Milltown. It seemd though that you assumed you hammered rasharkin as they're division 2. They're a division 2 side who would give you as good a game as a number of division 1 sides would. What was the score between you and Dunloy on the first day of the season?

Realistically only two sides can win antrim senior at the minute unless Creggan have seriously come up which would, pleasantly might I add, surprise me. All the rest just make up the numbers.

If every team that couldn't win the senior went down to intermediate then there'd not be too many left! I think there is some merit in what you say though.It should be enforced  senior comes from division 1 plus previous years intermediate winners and intermediate comes from division 2 and maybe top half of 3 with junior from the rest.

You had the example of a division1  playing a division 3 team in the championship which shouldn't be happening. All be it that the division three team won but even so it's a game shouldn't be happening!

Johnjoe minor football is down to about 4 teams now if I'm right. Sarsfields, Rossa, St Galls and Cargin. If I'm right I think St Galls play Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 14, 2007, 01:48:26 PM
Its a crazy situation but league standing has no bearing on what championship you play in.
At the start of the year you can enter whatever championship takes your fancy.

With regard to the Rasharkin St Galls game, St Galls at a different class and could of won the game by a lot more.
Rasharkin however were in div 1 and are looking like being there again next year, and fit into a bracket of about 6 or 7 clubs who could beat each other on their day but would be tanked by St Galls/Cargin.
For the promotion of football within the county these teams need to be competitive with the top teams and should then be in the senior championship.

Teams like Dunloy, Moneyglass and Glenravel are in that bracket and should be playing senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 14, 2007, 02:42:05 PM
Thanks TommyGunn.

Hadnt heard the result of Gorts v Galls minor match, and thought it would be a close call. Gorts hammered Stinsons who have been unbeaten and impressive all year in SW league, so Galls must be good too.

In fairness, although they can be a bit OTT and in your face, particularly at their tight little pitch, Gorts do deserve a helluva lot of credit. They have made huge strides in recent years, poss top 2 or 3 in minor , u-21 champions, and now into senior semis.

Antrim needs a few teams coming through to challenge St Galls and Cargin, and certainly in the city, we need the Turf lodge area, as well as the huge South Belfast area (ST Brigids) with a passionate GAA fraternity.

As far as I can see, the traditionalists such as St Johns and Rossa are really struggling to make an impact, with St Pauls, Lamh Dearg and Sarsfields another 30% to find from somewhere.  St Endas quite simply are under performing year on year, with their huge catchment. So fair play to Brigids and the Gorts for at least being on a progressive curve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 03:09:56 PM
Gort Na Mona have a steady stream of underage talent coming though so I would expect them to be top three in the next few years. Creggan were doing really well at u14 a few years ago but I've not seen anything at minor yet - maybe they're a year or two young? No other club has a steady stream of underage talent coming through.

You get the odd team like Davitts winning minors but they were never able to sustain it and you need multiple good underage teams to make a good senior team - one just isn't enough. I think Sarsfields are picking up though and Rossa being in a minor semi is the first in a long time.

From the south west Cargin aside there hasn't been too much since Stinsons of the late nineties and even four in a row didn't translate to senior success.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 14, 2007, 03:21:19 PM
as previously pointed out, it is up to every club as to decide which championship they play in.
obviously some clubs would rather take the easier option of intermediate, thus having a better chance of winning and then representing antrim in the ulster.
lets take the county hurlers for example. they entered the christy ring last year instead of liam mccarthy. does anyone think this helped them improve as a team.
it maybe builds the confidence up a bit, but your beating lower level opposition, or in some cases getting beat by them.
this year they have improved because they were playin top teams in the top league and championship competitions.

take gortnamona for instance they are now in the semi of the senior, they could have taken the intermediate option at the start of the season which they could have won.
they now have a very good chance of making the final and good luck to them.

in my opinion all division 1 teams from the previous year and the present incoming year should be in the senior championship along with the winners of intermed. the year before. open draw. no option in the matter.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 14, 2007, 03:26:09 PM
Kinda disagree with your opinion re Gorts ITG.

I think there is some kind of movement up there at the minute, and even if their minors didnt win the c`ship, I really liked four or five of them. At least four class players, notably keeper, centre half back, a midfielder and a few very good forwards, one in particular with some left foot.

Would say they will be around for a few years, they looked more like gaelic players than soccer players, if you get my drift!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 03:37:19 PM
I maybe conveyed that badly JJ. Only three clubs have a constant stream of talent coming through - Gorts, Cargin, St Galls. No-one else looks to have anything of note coming through to challenge any of those three. Yes I agree with your soccer player opinion too - used to play teams like that with half in their man united shorts and the other half in their celtic ones. Seems like a thing of the past! No one else , to my mind anyway, has enough of a stream of talent coming through to impact these three so it should just be a matter of time till Gort NaMona bypass Portglenone and Lamh Dhearg assuming that, and I think they have, they've already bypassed St Johns/St Pauls.

This to me would mean that the only three to challenge for senior / division one honours in the next few years will come from these three. It will be tough for Gort Na Mona to make a breakthrough by the "big two" but you never know if they keep at it.

Culchy the hurlers had no choice but to enter the christy ring...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 03:50:16 PM
i think in the minor we got Rossa, games to be played the 22 August
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 14, 2007, 04:28:35 PM
ok tommy gunn, i thought they had the choice, but you know what i'm gettin at.
playin in a lower grade doesnt make you better in the long term, it might give you short term success albeit at a lower level, but it depends on where your club sees themselves going in the future.


on another note, i feel i have to mention michael pollock's point for gorts against st pauls on friday night.
he hit an almighty sideline, stand side of pitch, very difficult shot straight over.
eye of the needle stuff, absolutely brilliant.
can only be good for the future of antrim football and to think he couldn't even make the u-21 panel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 04:51:03 PM
agreed culchy - moneyglass have already won intermediate from division one so not sure what good it's doing them. or dunloy for that matter either. maybe from dunloy's perspective they just want to win something.

have heard big reports of your man pollock but have never seen him in action. can't understand why he wasn't in u21 squad - i would suspect politics.

with boys like him, mcgourty and crozier we should have some hope for the future!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 15, 2007, 10:05:05 AM
Hold the phone here tommygun, i think your blowing things out of porportion here regarding Gort na Mona's summit past St Johns, St Pauls and the like.
A quick look at the div 1 results shows they have 3 wins Dunloy twice and Lamh Dhearg, plus they beat St Pauls in the championship, hardly earth shattering results.

Now i do think that they are a club on the up, and they may beat Portglenone in the semi but they have a lot of work to do.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 15, 2007, 11:58:10 AM
TommyGunn, I know its an old chestnut, but you singled out MP, CJ and Crozier, quite rightly, all class acts.

Supports my theory  that internal politics really cost us a provincial or poss national u-21 title last year. Getting beaten by 0-13 to 0-11, in Omagh without CJ and Crozier would make you wonder would we not have been two or three points, at least a better team with them playing?

As far Mickey Pollocks omission this year, and not playing Benny Hasson midfield, well only John Mc Sparran can sort that one out!

Aw fcuk, dont get me started again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 15, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
Where O' Where is Slim Shady, since cargin got beaten he has done a massive runner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on August 15, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
John Joe are you suggesting that if a certain manager had of got staying on........taht Antrim would have won an ulster u-21 title!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2007, 12:21:17 PM
Did Tyrone win it that year?? Maybe not won it but a final would have been something!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 15, 2007, 02:00:51 PM
ITG, Tyrone won Ulster, and lost by a point to Mayo in the semi. Mayo won it.

No doubt Tyrone were a good side, but Crozier and CJ played the week before, against Fermanagh, which Antrim won by twelve points.

All I`m saying, Cromagh, and its 06, not 07 Im talking about, that some of the blazers didnt do enough behind the scenes to make sure they were available against Tyrone. CJ played as captain for the minors that day, and CJ for his school in the All Ireland B colleges semi final. He scored 4 goals and 5 points that day.

Tyrone, in Omagh were always going to be difficult, but my argumemt, now supported by the way CJ and Crozier have blossomed into the stars of the senior team this year, is that their availability could/should /would have been enough to get through that day.

And after that, well we wont ever know, will we.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
same manager won three Senior championships and got Naomh Gal to a Ulster final were they were beaten by 3 by the loup (Derry Champions)

he was the choice everyone wanted at the time. his results have been no different than the current manager, but sure one mans hero is anothers villan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 16, 2007, 11:24:07 AM
Chamonmodo, that some name boy, where does that come from?

Cj wasnt playing minor, read my post, he was playing for his school. How hard would it have been to get one game at 11 and the other at 4pm? Sure he could have been taken off at half time in the school match, they were that far ahead.

Your other point is sound, the players definitely were well up for it. It was there for the taking.

The point I make was that there was no effort whatsoever to facilitate CJ.  Every other county board would have made an effort, except Antrims.

To say that Justy wouldnt have made the team, if he was available is an interesting point though. It is well known that 2 selectors were huge in Croziers favour, and two others, city based, including the manager, werent that impressed with him. It is also well known that it caused huge dissention in the camp in the few days leading up to the match, particularly with MEADE getting the vacant jersey, prompted by his clubmate, club manager selector,in an unbelievable show of St Johns nepotism.

As I say again, we`ll never know, but sure, so what!

It was only our best chance of an Ulster or national football title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 16, 2007, 11:33:21 AM
Its gone boys...the Under 21 saga was debated on here till people were blue in the face.
What ifs etc?

The talent in that team now has to be harnessed and arguably Jody is trying to do just that.
Crozier, Mick McCann, CJ (though he won't get a break I'd say) etc need to be looked after and then be able to give Div 4 a real rattle next year and then we move on from there. One step at a time.
By regurgitating the Under 21 debate you're taking a couple of steps back.

Manipulating fixtures sets a very dangerous precedent but I agree that in the right circumstances a bit of sense should be used.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 16, 2007, 11:54:50 AM
Glensman, it does no harm whatsoever to remind ourselves, that we have a great group of young players coming through. That we could/ should/would have won last years U -21 title, IS  actually something we need to keep highlighting. Outside the county, well, maybe no one will believe it, but that group of players know themselves what happened, and the most annoying thing about it was, it wasnt lost on the field. It was lost in officialdom. Thats the sad part!

I agree, we must move on, and its good to know there are real talents out there. There can be no argument our current 19-23 age group is the strongest we have ever had.

In fact, I think its fair to ask the question, would we have beated Derry at Casement with a fit  Michael Magill and Sean Kelly, as well as Dougan and big Benny on fron the start? As for Kevin Mc Gourty.......

Its another "dont know", but it definitely has to be said those players would have made some difference.

As you say, its up to Jody to bring it all together, and he needs all our support to do this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2007, 10:40:13 AM
IFC:
Dunloy    Ardoyne    Ballymena   19/08/2007   14:30   Thomas Close      
All Saints    Tir na Nog    Ahoghill   19/08/2007   17:30   Alex Trainor      
Glenavy    Glenravel    Ahoghill   19/08/2007   19:00   Gerard Mc Kiernan

Any predictions??

Dunloy by 8

Ballymena by 6

Glenravel by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 17, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
your not far away itg.

should make for interesting semi-finals.

does anyone know what the craic is with the other match?

i know rumbly character mentioned it before, but i seen on the antrim gaa site that the admin person, said st enda's were through and that was it.
wud be a shambles in rossa did get back in, though it wudnt suprise me in the slighest and would hold the whole thing up, prob wouldnt be finished in time for ulsters anyhow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2007, 11:25:04 AM
According to county site rossa are out.

I'm not sure whether or not they have raised an appeal - there seems conflicting stories.

Made no sense for them to play that quater final they could have been in early though.

They're not good enough to win it anyway. Take Bell and Close out and you've a very average team. Put them in and it's still an average team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 12:37:23 PM
Intermediate

Dunloy by 4 (with a few bloody noses...)

Ballymena by 6

Gleneravel by 3.

Dunloy Glenravel would be a good final but I fancy Ballymena to be there or there abouts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 17, 2007, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 12:37:23 PM
Intermediate

Dunloy by 4 (with a few bloody noses...)

Ballymena by 6

Gleneravel by 3.

Dunloy Glenravel would be a good final but I fancy Ballymena to be there or there abouts.


ur some craic glensman, 4 teams left and you fancy 3 of them!

law of averages wud say you have a good chance of gettin it right.

b'mena will be hard to beat, the addition of the 3 logans has helped them no end & not just paddy, the other 2 are good players too(well div 2 anyway).

i fancy dunloy mysel, on their day they could beat most div 1 teams. but as said in previous posts i think they along with glenravel shud be playin senior championship.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 17, 2007, 03:08:41 PM
Rumour has it Rossa still have an appeal lodged with the Ulster council.

What happens if they win is anybodys guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 17, 2007, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on August 17, 2007, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 12:37:23 PM
Intermediate

Dunloy by 4 (with a few bloody noses...)

Ballymena by 6

Gleneravel by 3.

Dunloy Glenravel would be a good final but I fancy Ballymena to be there or there abouts.


ur some craic glensman, 4 teams left and you fancy 3 of them!

law of averages wud say you have a good chance of gettin it right.

b'mena will be hard to beat, the addition of the 3 logans has helped them no end & not just paddy, the other 2 are good players too(well div 2 anyway).

i fancy dunloy mysel, on their day they could beat most div 1 teams. but as said in previous posts i think they along with glenravel shud be playin senior championship.


St Endas, glenavy, Glenravel, Ballymena, Dunloy, Ardoyne and Randalstown are all still in the Intermediate at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 10:32:48 PM
Cheers Culchy...many a man before has said I was good craic.

I was saying for local rivalry (and north antrim football) Dunloy and Glenravel would be a good final but that Ballymena are a decent team.
Anything wrong with that?!

You yourself fancy Dunloy and Ballymena!

Actually a relatively open Intermediate. I had forgotten St Endas who aren't bad themselves...there's another one for you Culchy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on August 20, 2007, 08:50:33 PM
IFC Fixture for Rossa v St Enda's, Date & venue TBC, posted on Official Antrim Website today.
Follow the links for Fixtures, Football, Intermediate.

Where does this leave Aghagallon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on August 20, 2007, 09:30:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2007, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Well on August 20, 2007, 08:50:33 PM
IFC Fixture for Rossa v St Enda's, Date & venue TBC, posted on Official Antrim Website today.
Follow the links for Fixtures, Football, Intermediate.

Where does this leave Aghagallon?
I thought this had been brushed aside. What a mess it's turning into.

If you look at the guestbook it has been explained. Technical Glitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 09:05:12 AM
was down watching our seniors play Gort Na Mona on Sunday and they were awful. maybe too much celabrating after the St Pauls gamebut we played without 7 starters who played on  the championship game.

a few creegan lads down watching, should be a tight game this Sunday but the lads have put in some work lately and it's starting to come together.

naomh gall by five

the other game well before Sunday's league game against us i'd have said Gorts to pull off another surprise but no ports by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 23, 2007, 01:14:33 PM
Slim has not been heard or seen of since CARGIN GOT BEAT IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Edge of the Square on August 23, 2007, 01:48:02 PM
Slim, where are you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bredaghgael on August 23, 2007, 05:45:59 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 24, 2007, 08:27:25 AM
Was Ballymena v Randalstown played this week?
Anyone know the result?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: girt_giggler on August 24, 2007, 09:00:03 AM
All Saints 0-12  1-7 Tir na Nog
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 24, 2007, 02:40:46 PM
Cheers girt.

Are the semi final pairings known yet then?

Glenavy, Dunloy, Ballymena, Lamh Dearg...is that it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on August 24, 2007, 05:13:58 PM
ballymena v donloy
glenavy v st endas
dates tbc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
game was over before half time last night, Creegan were really poor, second half we did not have to play at all, no intensity needed and the game slowed right down.

the final is not for another 6 weeks, what are these lads meant to do for 6 weeks? crazy.

will moran be with them next year or will he bugger off to a county team somewhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on August 27, 2007, 12:00:35 PM
Lads, who you reckon would be favourites for the Intermediate football title in Antirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 09:42:07 AM
is the football that boring at the minute that nobody wants to talk about it?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2007, 11:06:21 AM
It's pretty bad Milltown - you guys have it all sewn up and the manner of Creggan's defeat given how well they've been going is pretty demoralising for us all as you're miles above all of us!

I would expect you to win the final by about 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 12:07:43 PM
if we get into our stride then yes i'd say we could win by a lot more than 6/7

the last time we played Portglenone they stiffled our game for most of the match but never really looked like out scoring us.

creegan played better football in the second (ok game was dead) half when they started to play a more open and direct game, this may also make more space for our forwards as a result but what do you do ? double team CJ? do that and you leave Karl Stewart free who can score as much as CJ the two lads are really on form at the minute and the rest of the lads are chipping in with scores.

i think if the ports want to win this this should be the way they go. worry about your own tactics and concentrate on what will win it for you. cj and karl will get the ball regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on August 31, 2007, 02:00:55 AM
I would have to fancie ballymena for the IFC.
Think the semi final with donloy will be very tight but with ballymena coming out on top to meet st endas in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 31, 2007, 10:27:11 AM
I was sure JJ would have been on here singing the ports praises...maybe he is feeling a little blue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: girt_giggler on August 31, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: snowygael on August 31, 2007, 02:00:55 AM
I would have to fancie ballymena for the IFC.
Think the semi final with donloy will be very tight but with ballymena coming out on top to meet st endas in the final

aww, great to see a senior member of his own team fancying their own chances on an internet forum!   ;)  ;D

In all seriousness I wish All Saints well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 31, 2007, 11:59:39 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on August 31, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: snowygael on August 31, 2007, 02:00:55 AM
I would have to fancie ballymena for the IFC.
Think the semi final with donloy will be very tight but with ballymena coming out on top to meet st endas in the final

aww, great to see a senior member of his own team fancying their own chances on an internet forum!   ;)  ;D

In all seriousness I wish All Saints well

snowygael and snowy (sean mcveigh) intrested in the IFC  and backing Saints all the way  :o maybe im wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 31, 2007, 02:36:03 PM
snowygael is paddy logan in disguise  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on August 31, 2007, 04:22:28 PM
well someone asked  the opinions of this  forum regarding the IFC and i gave mine honestly it doesn matter if its my club or not we have a great chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: behind the wire on August 31, 2007, 04:30:15 PM
il go for ballymena too, even though i know nothing about antrim football. went all the way up there during pre season for a friendly only to find pitch unplayable. looked like a good outfit though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on September 01, 2007, 12:05:56 PM
the pitch wasn greatt that day but we still wanted to play it but your team decided not to. but thanks for the support
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 05, 2007, 12:57:31 PM
Where has Slim Shady and now John Joe gone too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on September 06, 2007, 08:19:54 AM
Results from last nights Div 1 and 2 games:

Division 1 Football

Lamh Dhearg  0-9 2-7 Cargin 
Gort Na Mona  1-5 1-14 St. Galls   
St. Johns  1-14 2-6 St. Pauls     
Moneyglass  3-15 3-9 Dunloy 

Division 2 Football

Rossa  - - Mc Dermotts   Not Played 
Glenravel  1-11 0-11 St. Endas   
Rasharkin  3-12 1-11 Aghagallon   
Davitts  - - Sarsfields   Not Played 
St. Brigids B 1-16 1-14 All Saints     

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on September 06, 2007, 08:26:16 AM

League table for Division 1 Football
Team   Played   Won   Lost   Drawn   Points For    Against   Points Diff   Points

Cargin    12   11   1   0   193   109   84   22
St. Galls    12   9   3   0   195   127   68   18
Creggan    10   7   1   2   154   115   39   16
St. Pauls    13   7   4   2   161   166   -5   16
P'one    11   6   5   0   158   131   27   12
St. Johns    13   5   7   1   148   191   -43   11
Mon'glass    13   4   9   0   183   186   -3   8
GortMona    13   3   9   1   163   207   -44   7
L Dhearg    12   2   8   2   144   196   -52   6
Dunloy    11   2   9   0   137   208   -71   4



League table for Division 2 Football
Team   Played   Won   Lost   Drawn   Points For Against   Points Diff   Points

St. Brigids   12   10   1   1   191   123   68   21
Rasharkin    12   9   2   1   187   132   55   19
All Saints    12   6   4   2   167   153   14   14
St. Endas    12   6   5   1   159   132   27   13
Aghagallon    12   5   5   2   154   148   6   12
Glenravel    11   5   4   2   126   123   3   12
Rossa    11   4   6   1   129   130   -1   9
Sarsfields    11   3   7   1   114   149   -35   7
Davitts    10   3   6   1   115   155   -40   7
Mc Derms    11   0   11   0   87   184   -97   0
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 08:48:32 AM
think Dunloy have been shafted by our senior football team by not putting in a full team against lamhs last week, normaly we would have stuffed them but by not playing all our players we have made it really difficult for them staying up.

i hope when we play Dunloy we dont put out a full strength team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 06, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 08:48:32 AM
think Dunloy have been shafted by our senior football team by not putting in a full team against lamhs last week, normaly we would have stuffed them but by not playing all our players we have made it really difficult for them staying up.

i hope when we play Dunloy we dont put out a full strength team

Did you field a weakened side because your club is feeling a wee bit bad that they are trying to persuade a high profile Lamh Dhearg forward to join St. Gall's for next season?

An absolute disgrace that such a transfer is even being considered and scandalous if it does go through.  Shame on St. Gall's, but totally indictative of the mindset of Antrim GAA and further evidnece that there is so much wrong within our county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2007, 11:28:56 AM
What's the story with relegation?

One down and one playoff with second from the lower league?

McDermotts obviously to get chopped in division 2 but there could be a few more spots to play for.

Second bottom spot could be interesting in division 1 too.

Very cynical view Sam. Do you know for sure that your man is transferring to Galls or you just basing things on hearsay?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 06, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2007, 11:28:56 AM
What's the story with relegation?

One down and one playoff with second from the lower league?

McDermotts obviously to get chopped in division 2 but there could be a few more spots to play for.

Second bottom spot could be interesting in division 1 too.

Very cynical view Sam. Do you know for sure that your man is transferring to Galls or you just basing things on hearsay?

Is it not the worst kept secret about that Cunningham is going to St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
Paddy Cuningham is NOT coming to Naomh Gall thats for sure.


saffron i'm afraid your talking shite. so what your saying is players should never leave their clubs?

so if you fell out with the majority of team mates and feel as if you have no future in the club, that he would be better off not playing????????????


and it's the county boards fault, ha, brill

it's a good thing your not holding the reins

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 06, 2007, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
Paddy Cuningham is NOT coming to Naomh Gall thats for sure.

Good and that is how it should be, although there is no doubt that he would have been welcomed at Milltown.  I believe the proposed transfer package of two days a week subbing in La Salle, the choice of any three outfits from Sean McGourty's wardrobe and a new pair of boots with "Paddy Hands" embroidered on them was just not tempting enough.


Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
saffron i'm afraid your talking shite. so what your saying is players should never leave their clubs?
Leaving aside your inability to use the apostrophe, it is quite clear that you're trying to misquote me.  I am not saying players shouldn't leave clubs; I am saying that players shouldn't leave their club in the circumstances of this case. Nor should they leave a small club to go to a bigger one.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
so if you fell out with the majority of team mates and feel as if you have no future in the club, that he would be better off not playing????????????
If you knew Cunningham, you would know that it is practically impossible to fall out with him.  His mother's family have always been a Lamh Dhearg family.  The issue at hand should have been dealt with internally by LD with no need for talk of transfers. The fact that your club jumped in straight away is concerning.  I have never mentioned him not playing.  He can play away with his own club when they sort the issue out.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
and it's the county boards fault, ha, brill
It is indeed.  Few (if any) other county boards would allow the number of inter-club transfers that Antrim do. Certainly this transfer wouldn't have been considered in either Down or Derry. Can you get figures for the number of inter-club transfers in each county?  Would back my point up very well I think.  Transfers are granted at the drop of a hat in Antrim and if players can demonstrate such a lack of loyalty (because of a fall-out or ambitions of playing football at a higher level), what chance is there of loyalty to their county. Should the Logans have been allowed to transfer to Ballymena, Sheeny McQuillan to Glenravel (and back a year later), Anto Finnegan , the two Glenavy boys, the Drake brothers, Aaron Thompson, Adrian Craig etc.?  Is there another county in Ireland where an under-21 goalkeeper can be on his third club, because he has fallen out with the previous two? As a counter example, did Ciaran Gourley or Philip Loughran move from small clubs to further their ambitions.

This a problem that is specific (certainly in my experience) to GAA in Antrim and since they are tasked with running the games in Antrim, of course it is the county board's fault.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
it's a good thing your not holding the reins
A good thing for St.Gall's indeed, as their aggressive approach to transfers would certainly be curtailed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 06, 2007, 02:09:49 PM
Dunloy looked doomed to failure and it could very well be because of St Galls sending a strong outfit to Castlewellan 7s. Pretty bad if so. Not necessarily completely St Galls fault, but I do hope they field the same team v Dunloy.

Who are you Saffron Sam to make such an objective call on what, in each instance in my opinion, should be looked at subjectively.
Clearly there was some fall out between the Logans and Ahoghill that made it impossible for them to stay on...sure they not be allowed to play football or have to leave the county.

Paddy Cunningham would certianly be a high profile transfer indeed, but due to what has been said on here it appears he is not going.

I heard a rumour that Michael Magill was headed for Cargin...any truth in that or has it become silly season in the transfer market with the season not over yet?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
two days at La Salle? pants

i didnt know it was a spelling contest

smaller club? Lamhs have been in a couple of county finals lately, they are also a div 1 hurling team as well

if you know him so well then you would know that he  was not coming anyway

what facts and figures have you got to back up your opinion on other counties views on people transfering to other clubs?

what thirds goalkeeper are you talking about? i played last night and we had the sub goalkeeper from the all ireland team playing.

if i spelt or wrote something wrong i'm sorry...............nobhead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 06, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Perhaps i can help....to get a transfer in Derry to another club...is like getting blood from a stone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 07, 2007, 09:03:09 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
two days at La Salle? pants
I try to introduce a bit of levity into a serious topic and this is the thanks I get.  I take it then that you believed the bit about McGourty's wardrobe and embroidered boots?

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
i didnt know it was a spelling contest
It isn't, but a wise man on this board once quoted, I think, Flann O'Brien who said "A man who can misplace an apostrophe is capable of anything".  Always good to know the type of person you're dealing with.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
smaller club? Lamhs have been in a couple of county finals lately, they are also a div 1 hurling team as well
I didn't mean LD specifically. The point I was making that the two main reasons for transfers in Antrim seem to be because of fall outs and ambition to play at a higher level. But, since you have brought it up, there can be no doubt that by moving from LD to St Gall's, any player would significantly improve their chances of winning multiple county titles.

I can think of myriad transfers within Antrim that prove my point:
Ciaran O'Grady - Eire Og (small club) to Naomh Gall (bigger club)
Aaron Thompson - St Agnes (small club) to Naomh Gall (bigger club)
Billy & John Drake - Lisburn (small club) to Naomh Gall (bigger club)
Eamonn & Paul Graham - Cushendun (small club) to Rosaa (then a bigger club)
Joe McCaffrey - O'Donnell's (small club) to Rossa (bigger club)
Adrian Craig - Portglenone (then a small club) to Cargin (bigger club)
The two Glenavy boys - Glenavy (small club) to Lamh Dhearg (bigger club)
etc.

Hopefully, you can get my point now.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
if you know him so well then you would know that he  was not coming anyway
It seems that the transfer is not going to go through which is the correct course of action.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
what facts and figures have you got to back up your opinion on other counties views on people transfering to other clubs?
Max has helped me out by giving his opinion about transfers in Derry.  I asked boys in work from Derry about transfers between clubs in Derry, they came up with three. Gary Coleman moving from Magherafelt to Ballymaquigan was one - he had moved to Ballymaquigan and it was his father's home club - nothing untoward there.  A boy (Donnelly?) once moved from Bellaghy to Lavey, but it had to be via Cargin before the county board would consider it.  Another boyo once transferred from Glen to Slaughneil and subsequently transferred back before he was eventually suspended from the club for dipping pockets in the changing rooms.  I asked another boy in work about transfers in Down and he highlighted DJ Kane who moved from Mitchel's to Shamrocks again via a club in Antrim (O'Donnells). He also mentioned the James McCartan mobile home farce in Down.

Both county boards seem to have a rule that if you want to transfer between clubs in the counties you have to sit out a year (which would stop transfers like the Sheeny McQuillan one.

I could safely bet that for every transfer in either county, I could name ten or twelve in Antrim.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
what thirds goalkeeper are you talking about?
You appear not to have read what I posted.  My point was that the county under-21 keeper from a couple of years ago, Stephen Harbinson, was on his third club (St. Teresa's), having fallen out with his two previous ones (LD agus Naomh Eoin). I was trying to show the dangers of allowing transfers because of fallouts.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
i played last night and we had the sub goalkeeper from the all ireland team playing.
Good to see that you're still getting a game and the obvious strength in depth your club has, but IMHO this is totally irrelevant to the matters being discussed.

Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
if i spelt or wrote something wrong i'm sorry...............nobhead
You made that silent 'k' an invisible one too...sheer genius.

Glensman
Quote from: Glensman on September 06, 2007, 02:09:49 PM
Who are you Saffron Sam
Not telling you who I am.

Quote from: Glensman on September 06, 2007, 02:09:49 PM
Who are you Saffron Sam to make such an objective call on what, in each instance in my opinion, should be looked at subjectively.
Clearly there was some fall out between the Logans and Ahoghill that made it impossible for them to stay on...sure they not be allowed to play football or have to leave the county.
It isn't a subjective issue.  If there was a disagreement then it should be sorted out inhouse.  Every club in Ireland has internal disputes, but only in Antrim does it seem that these lead to regular transfers.

I will leave now by quoting from the outcome of  DRA case 12 & 13/2005 Pádraig Mac Gothraigh and Conchur Mac Bhranaigh -v- St Joseph 's GAC Glenavy and The Antrim County Committee.

We reject the submission that a player has the automatic right to play for whatever club he chooses and we remind the parties of Rule 32 of the Official Guide as amended:

"As the Gaelic Athletic Association is community centred, based on the allegiance of its members to their local Clubs and Counties, the Transfer and Declaration Rules in this Official Guide and in County Bye Laws reflect that ethos. A player is considered to owe allegiance and loyalty to his Home Club and County, as defined in these Rules."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 07, 2007, 09:27:42 AM
brilliant, we have a new chairman/woman here. with his/her spelling and grammer knowledge and understanding of the rules of the Gaelic Athletic Association he can make Antrim a force to be reckoned with ;D

i'm sure there are valid reasons for all of those transfers who are you to give off about players moving, from club to club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 07, 2007, 09:50:03 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 07, 2007, 09:27:42 AM
brilliant, we have a new chairman/woman here. with his/her spelling and grammer knowledge and understanding of the rules of the Gaelic Athletic Association he can make Antrim a force to be reckoned with ;D

i'm sure there are valid reasons for all of those transfers who are you to give off about players moving, from club to club
Humour me then, give me a valid reason for any of the transfers I've mentioned.  Fall outs and ambitions to play at a higher level are not valid reasons.

It's grammar, by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 07, 2007, 09:51:37 AM

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It's grammar, by the way.
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:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2007, 10:16:35 AM
The Grahams started at Rossa - moved to Cushendun - and then moved back.

My opinion is the reason we have all these transfers within the county is because of the city. Realistically Derry is the only other city in ulster and there isn't much gaelic in there which is why there isn't that problem there or in the rest of ulster. Dublin has a significantly worse problem than antrim in this regard. Look at the transfers they talk about.

There are some small clubs in Belfast - who are doing well to progress - but players see successful clubs right on their doorstep and to try and gain success etc. they move there. I would also see the reason of less loyalty in city clubs as a big reason. Most of your transfers are notably among city clubs. Then for some small clubs there aren't even conceivable gaps between the areas they mingle in and the areas of the bigger clubs which their players can go too. In the country your next club is x miles away so in terms of who you mingle with etc. it's a bigger problem.

You also seem to have a chip on your shoulder about galls sam. Any reason for this?

McQuillan was for personal reasons - he's different. Craig - are you sure about his transfer? Craig has played for cargin as long as i've known and as far as i know his family is from cargin.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 07, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
I couldn't give a flying f@ck who you actually are SS.

It is completely a subjective issue.
In MOST cases there are valid reasons why players move clubs...it doesn't happen too often in practice (the stats may show it might happen in Antrim more than others) but when it does as a paying member of the GAA, whose rules we are subject to and generally abide by a player should have the right to present his case and it be heard.

If its "I want to move to St Galls/Cargin/Rossa(hurling) as I fancy a trophy" then I have some sympathy for your argument.
If its because:
then your argument however catered for in the rule book should fall by the wayside.

The GAA generally needs to look after the common every day player.
The most important was of doing this is by giving the common every day player more fixtures (the ongoing debate).
BUT it should look at the grievances of that player where they have some, which is often fall out with clubs/practicalities of playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 07, 2007, 10:18:39 AM
I tried to get all fancy with the bullet points...roll on the abuse from Principal SS (or should that be principle?!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 07, 2007, 10:16:35 AM
The Grahams started at Rossa - moved to Cushendun - and then moved back.

My opinion is the reason we have all these transfers within the county is because of the city. Realistically Derry is the only other city in ulster and there isn't much gaelic in there which is why there isn't that problem there or in the rest of ulster. Dublin has a significantly worse problem than antrim in this regard. Look at the transfers they talk about.

There are some small clubs in Belfast - who are doing well to progress - but players see successful clubs right on their doorstep and to try and gain success etc. they move there. I would also see the reason of less loyalty in city clubs as a big reason. Most of your transfers are notably among city clubs. Then for some small clubs there aren't even conceivable gaps between the areas they mingle in and the areas of the bigger clubs which their players can go too. In the country your next club is x miles away so in terms of who you mingle with etc. it's a bigger problem.

You also seem to have a chip on your shoulder about galls sam. Any reason for this?

McQuillan was for personal reasons - he's different. Craig - are you sure about his transfer? Craig has played for cargin as long as i've known and as far as i know his family is from cargin.


They must have been about 5 when they were at Rossa, i remember them playing U-16 for St Pats (an underage amalgamation of Glenariffe/Cushendun). They also won a minor county championship with St Pats.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2007, 03:16:40 PM
They did start at Rossa alright but were quite young when they were there. I heard the da (the handball man whose name I can't remember) stopped them from moving back to Rossa on numerous occasions before the eventual move.

Seamus Graham is said handball fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 08, 2007, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2007, 03:29:41 PM
Maneely Mc Cann Minor Championship Final
Rossa  3-5  2-5 Sarsfields

When i was walking into Casement last night before the Minor hurling final some of the dejected Sarsfields players were walking out, one was telling a few of his mates what particular assortment of beverages he had in his kitbag for the night ahead (none were isotonic), good to see such meticulous preparation for a big match at such a tender age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stmalachy on September 11, 2007, 12:28:14 AM
Milltownrow-is it true that you kicked Ballinderry's ass in a friendly game on Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 08:36:39 AM
we won by 2 points in a meaningless friendly, few boys missing from us and mcGuckin missing for Ballinderry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 08:36:39 AM
we won by 2 points in a meaningless friendly, few boys missing from us and mcGuckin missing for Ballinderry.

Meaningless yes, but highly lucrative also. And in doing so, you disgraced the Antrim senior hurling championship.  Shame.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 09:30:49 AM
your such a tit saff, you have a real boner for Naomh Gall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 09:30:49 AM
your such a tit saff, you have a real boner for Naomh Gall.
Don't shoot the messenger man.  You can tell the rest of the board the whole details.  The personal abuse only highlights the weakness of your position.

By the way, your denotes possession, in the same way as my, his, her, its etc.  You should have used you're or you are instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 11:22:34 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

what position? and (you are) the one with the personal attacks regarding grammar, get a life man, get your head out of the dictionary.

cant wait for my mistakes to be highlighted again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
Sam what is your problem with St Galls? (yes your)

You seemed to have a big rant about them and the Paddy Cunningham transfer and then proceeded to tell us that you already knew it wasn't happening! Somewhat bitter about something me thinks...

You highlighted numerous transfers - some of which were St Galls but not too many - so why do you not have the same issue with other clubs making transfers as you have with St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
Sam what is your problem with St Galls? (yes your)
Absolutely no problem with St. Gall's - I have even taken their side in some debates on this board.  In fact, some high profile club members have sat beside me whilst I posted their thoughts about St. Gall's on the board.  I do have a problem with many specific things within the GAA - I will have no bother highlighting these at any time.  If these involve St. Gall's, St. Paul's, Lamh Dhearg etc. it will make no difference. I am not a current member of any club in Belfast (although I have been repeatedly asked to join a certain one) so this gives me the opportunity to be totally objective about all issues.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
You seemed to have a big rant about them and the Paddy Cunningham transfer and then proceeded to tell us that you already knew it wasn't happening! Somewhat bitter about something me thinks...
No what I said was
Quote from: saffron sam2 on September 07, 2007, 09:03:09 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
if you know him so well then you would know that he  was not coming anyway
It seems that the transfer is not going to go through which is the correct course of action.
Don't try to misquote me.  I highlighted the transfer because it was topical and indictitive of (IMNSHO) of a general problem in Antrim. Had the transfer involved any other two clubs in the county I would still have highlighted it.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
You highlighted numerous transfers - some of which were St Galls but not too many - so why do you not have the same issue with other clubs making transfers as you have with St Galls?
Unfortunately, you have not been on the board long enough to remember the debate I had with SlimShady about Cargin's transfer dealings.  My position was the same then as now. I highlighted the Cunningham story now because it is current and I could verfiy the truth of the situation.  For example, I have not discussed the alleged Magill transfer, because it is simply a rumour.  If this is a genuine story, then my opinion and force of argument would be identical. Likewise my position on all the transfers I highlighted is the same - I would have been against them all.  But since we're on it, the worst transfer in my list was McQuillan's - how can you justify leaving a club one year and returing the next.  The GAA rule book doesn't allow that.

I am also entitled to highlight a situation where a club will play a virtual reserve team in a senior championship hurling match to allow their footballers to play a challenge game, a game in which allegedly there was a considerable purse available to the winners.  Do you think this is right?

You may not like what I write, but you will get consistency.

I also think you made a few reasonable points regarding transfers and the city, but I haven't completed my submissions regarding these.  I will in due time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 11:22:34 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

what position? and (you are) the one with the personal attacks regarding grammar, get a life man, get your head out of the dictionary.

cant wait for my mistakes to be highlighted again

No point in trying to discuss GAA issues rationally with you.

However

cant = insincere or to talk hypocritically
can't = abbreviated form of cannot.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 02:15:29 PM
yeah, is that you done now?

now football talk, can Port-glen-one beat Naomh Gall? (the team of players from everywhere else)

i hope the match is competitive and on before the hurling final, keep me out of the bar untill later in the day. any word from ports men out there?

how's your preperation going and your views on how to stop CJ and Karl Stewart from scoring?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 02:39:39 PM
Portglenone have defenders who are much more capable of curtailing the damage them two boys do to some extent. Between Paddy Carey, Convery and maybe John McKeever if he moves back they could restrict a bit of damage.

Storey and McCarry - I think that is still their midfield partnership? - should compete anyway at midfield(actually now I think about it I think a young McKeever is in midfield so he must be good to be displacing one of those two boys). Owen Doherty is also excellent at winning break ball. However from there up I just don't see them competing. I don't think they'll be blown away like Creggan but I think they will fall a bit short. Gerard McAleese seems like their best forward and I still think he's a bit light so a good defender , I think, would hold him. McCallion is good for frees but not sure about general play.

Galls have Stewart and McGourty for scores plus I would assume that the other McGourty(Kieran not the might one) is back who is also handy. They also have Sean Kelly and is McClean playing in defense who should be fit to dominate. That and I'm sure I'm missing a few boys too. McRory and whoever else can usually hold their own at midfield there too.

In midfield and defense Portglenone should, I would expect, compete better than Creggan but I wouldn't expect any domination there. Still they've nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 02:15:29 PM
yeah, is that you done now?

now football talk, can Port-glen-one beat Naomh Gall? (the team of players from everywhere else)

i hope the match is competitive and on before the hurling final, keep me out of the bar untill later in the day. any word from ports men out there?

how's your preperation going and your views on how to stop CJ and Karl Stewart from scoring?

No, Portglenone will not get close to beating St. Gall's. You will win it by as much as you want.  I would propose a similar structure in the football championship as that which is used in hurling.  This would allow the two best teams in the county to compete in the final and not the mixum-gatherum that is Portglenone.

I don't think any team in Antrim could stop those two boys if they are on song - in fact you will probably remember me championing Stewart for the Antrim football team.

Appropriate use of the apostrophe.  Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 11, 2007, 05:08:24 PM
"Mixum-gatherum" - Will you please define O lord of the Dictionary/Grammar?

Do you mean that they are generally a mixed up bunch and confused on the field of play or are you criticising the origin of their players...again?

If it is the latter you have an awful lot of hang ups about players from other clubs. I would wager that whatever club from which you hail there have been transfers as well. It is the way of the world.

Really not sure how Portglenone will fair. They will put it up to them I hope. They is no call for freezing on the BIG stage as they have been there before.


As regards CJ and Stewart how do they be stopped in Antrim (whether or not by Portglenone)...can they be intimidated out of it, double marked - just interested to see what people think of players who are supposedly unmarkable.
Wouldn't condone cynical tactics on anyone but it clearly must cross peoples minds.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 05:20:41 PM
IMO Stewart is not unmarkable and Portglenone have boys who can do a job on him.  If a surplus of ball comes in though he would maybe eventually do some damage.How much damage did he do against Creggan - it wasn't that much was it?

McGourty however is a different kettle of fish but he is petulant and petulant people generally can be thrown off their game so I suppose intimidation could be considered. I've never considered Portglenone a particularly dirty team though so doubt they'd stoop to that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on September 12, 2007, 09:43:58 AM
Good win for the Dunloy lads last night in the intermediate championship, beat Ballymena 2-10 to 1-8, i hard to leave the game early with Dunloy up by 8 points and playing really well so was somewhat surprised to hear we needed a late goal to fend off a Ballymena comeback

Sets up a final with St Enda's, a team i can never remember Dunloy playing, that is if the final goes ahead, a man at the match last night was telling Rossa are still appealing being thrown out and have a good chance.  what would happen their, would it be a redraw again or would Enda's and Rossa simply play off,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 12, 2007, 09:50:33 AM
What date is the county final between the Ports and St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 12, 2007, 10:06:33 AM
the 7th of October, double header with the county hurling and football finals at Casement

who will win the Derry final? and what way are the ulster draws set up this year.

i'm not saying who will win antrim as i will be cheering on whoever wins, when the antrim championship is over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 12, 2007, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 12, 2007, 10:06:33 AM
the 7th of October, double header with the county hurling and football finals at Casement

who will win the Derry final? and what way are the ulster draws set up this year.

i'm not saying who will win antrim as i will be cheering on whoever wins, when the antrim championship is over.
Derry and Antrim champions would meet at semi-final stage if St. Gall's see off either the Donegal or Cavan champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 12, 2007, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 11, 2007, 05:08:24 PM
"Mixum-gatherum" - Will you please define O lord of the Dictionary/Grammar?

Do you mean that they are generally a mixed up bunch and confused on the field of play or are you criticising the origin of their players...again?
No, I simply means that in terms of good championship teams of the past (Cargin, St. Paul's etc) or excellent teams like the current St. Gall's one, they compare very unfavourably. Their best player has retired, their remaining better ones are ageing, the Bellaghy reserves have retreated back across the Bann and they have too many gaps to be plugged with club journeymen.  That they have a decent club despite the constant intimidation by their "neighbours" is an achievement; that they are in this year's final is a result of a handy draw and an indictment of the current state of Antrim club football.  Hence mixum-gatherum is an appropriate term.

Quote from: maxpower on September 12, 2007, 09:43:58 AM
Sets up a final with St Enda's, a team i can never remember Dunloy playing, that is if the final goes ahead, a man at the match last night was telling Rossa are still appealing being thrown out and have a good chance.  what would happen their, would it be a redraw again or would Enda's and Rossa simply play off,
Rossa still appealing and by all accounts, they will win their appeal either at Ulster Council level or the DRA.  However, they feel that because the championship has progressed so far, it is unlikely they will be re-admitted this year. It appears to this neutral observer somewhat typical of the Antrim county board but even by their standards I have rarely heard such a sordid account of drawn games, missing extra time, refixtures, unilateral decision making, individuals not knowing the rules, water carriers, byelaws, CCCs, sex, requests for information, written requests for information, written requests to acknowledge written requests, phantom phone calls, sausage roll baps and personal vendattas.  When I last heard Rossa were waiting for Fergal Logan to return from holiday before moving the case forward.

I made one part of that paragraph up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2007, 09:08:36 PM
QuoteRossa have got away with an awful lot over the years

I'd be interested in hearing a few of these scenarios.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:31:43 PM
At that time hardstation they threatened to pull their players out of the county squad if they got relegated from the football. Lo and behold they finished bottom the leagues were then restructured and no one got relegated.

Anyway I don't have anything personal against them but there are a few instances like this which I feel have finally came back to haunt them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2007, 09:35:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:31:43 PM
At that time hardstation they threatened to pull their players out of the county squad if they got relegated from the football. Lo and behold they finished bottom the leagues were then restructured and no one got relegated.

Anyway I don't have anything personal against them but there are a few instances like this which I feel have finally came back to haunt them.

Surely there's more to it than that. Were they not relegated the next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:44:18 PM
They beat Aghagallon in a play off the following year and then got relegated the year after that. Obviously none of us can state unequivocally that this is what happened but the word is/was that they threatened to pull their county players out with them having a few influential ones in Connolly and Kettle and a few others too in Bell(if he played county then which I think he did) and Hamill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:50:53 PM
You might be right and I might be missing a year actually - the aghagallon one might have been two years later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:58:29 PM
Relegation was one down and next two play off to play the winners of the division two play off. It wasn't a mess in general - it just became one that year when what was stated at the start of the year was went back on...

Anyway I think a strong Rossa is good for Antrim and I hope they come back up in the football.What happened happened and hopefully won't again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 15, 2007, 08:19:31 PM
I see Longstone beat St Galls by 10 in Kilmacud 7's final today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
yeah beat us handy enough from the reports i got back from some players. we beat longstone in the final 2 years ago so plenty of reason to win this one for them? ar ethey in the down final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2007, 09:53:16 PM
Any word on kevin mcgourty coming back for you guys milltown?

Love him or hate him I think he's a boy you will need if you have aspirations of winning the Ulster club again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 16, 2007, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2007, 10:35:33 PM
He's back as far as I know. I take it he has already started training with St. Galls.

All will be revealed in a two page spread in Irish News in coming weeks.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 16, 2007, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2007, 10:42:02 PM
No doubt his pizza face will be in the paper. Perhaps tomorrow, overshadowing the AIF.

I think one of those clown Irish News reporters lives nearby to him so we shouldnt have to wait long......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 16, 2007, 10:49:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2007, 10:46:36 PM
Maybe he'll join his brother for another photo shoot in Woodlands.

Aye i saw that couple of weeks ago,its one of the reasons i dont read the Irish News that often.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 17, 2007, 10:08:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 08:43:30 PM
Sam at the time of the proceeding St Enda's match do you know for sure that Rossa had actually lodged an appeal? From my reading into it I'm not entirely sure they had ,at that point, got an appeal in.

I'm not so sure about personal agendas here. Rossa have got away with an awful lot over the years and I would guess worst case what was said here was enough is enough rather than any agenda. The way they pulled out of that game was ridiculous.

There is no doubt again that there is validity in the argument about Rossa over the years, particularly in terms of how they avoided relegation on occasions.  However, whilst interesting in terms of conspiracy theories, none of that is in any way relevant to the current case. Rossa and the Antrim County board are both bound by the regulations of the GAA and my reading of the situation is that Rossa have the stronger case. You can't igonre the rules of the GAA because of what may have happened in the past.

I would disagree with hardstation re. the timing of Rossa's appeal and indeed your reading of the situation.  Rossa couldn't appeal until they had been kicked out of the championship, i.e. after the refixed St. Enda's game.  My reading of the timing is drawn match, refixed unplayed match, Rossa bucked out, Rossa appeal, next round played.

If all the quarter finals were played at the same time this would weaken my argument, but I believe that one quarter final was played weeks before the other three.  Can you confirm this?  If yes, why do you think this was the case?

As regards personal vendattas, I don't doubt that this is the case.  Re-read my first post again, O'Neill has obviously heard the same stories and I can guess his source. If I knew you better or had verifiable proof I would have no problem naming the individual involved, rather than his erstwhile role within Antrim Gaa circles (and it's not SlimShady).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 03:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2007, 10:42:02 PM
No doubt his pizza face will be in the paper. Perhaps tomorrow, overshadowing the AIF.

Hardstation, are you still referring to Kevin McGourty here?
whats with the pizza face thing?  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 06:45:44 PM
Maybe I was being a bit hard on your brother. Sorry.
How was his holiday?

im sure he had a lovely holiday! always nice to get away at this time of year.
do u have something against kevin mcgourty?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 07:41:47 PM
then why call him pizza face? im in no way his biggest fan but it was a bit childish. would mcgourty or kevin not have done?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:03:49 PM
hardstation, mcgourty has his critics but antrim will need him if they are to improve further in the championship.
what has your club brought to the county set up that enables you to slag the likes of mcgourty? a player which is essential to the county set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 17, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 07:45:17 PM
Freudian slip. Sorry shaws road and sorry also to your brother (who apparently is not a fan of yours) Aquazur.

Explain Hardstation like a good chap, is it not all skipping through the meadows hand in hand in Castle Mc Gourty?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 17, 2007, 08:30:47 PM
Did the spastic not hide his email address? You would have been better saying nothing just to see what we got out of him......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 17, 2007, 08:30:47 PM
Did the spastic not hide his email address? You would have been better saying nothing just to see what we got out of him......

quite insulting!

as for my email address i dont see how you can tell who i am. my name isnt Mr. Scouse  :-\

and as for mr mcgourty (or pizza face as you like to call him) i also couldnt care less and i said im not his biggest fan. im indifferent to him.

you seem to be very agressive when it comes to the subject of mcgourty yet you say you dont care.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 08:38:43 PM
Unless you've changed your email address since I read it earlier.

nope.  ??? oh you mean the "im_a_relation_of_kevin_mcgourty@yahoo.com" one?? ah shit yes, changed it since that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:47:02 PM
what actually makes you think i am related to him?? because i half stood up for him when you called him a name?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on September 17, 2007, 09:34:15 PM
Always fun in Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 18, 2007, 08:28:18 AM
lads regardless of how people feel about fellow gaels lets keep the cheap remarks for the hogan stand, surprised at you hardstation, balboa don't you be jumping on the band wagon either.

Aquazur dont be biting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2007, 09:48:54 PM
My sources in Dublin tell me the Galls lads were out heartily celebrating Longstone's win in the 7s. A prominent Galls stalwart was seen ordering expensive champagne for all and sundry. He was also seen wearing an expensive new pair of gutties on the Monday. What's the story there? Are the clubs good friends?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on September 19, 2007, 10:00:59 AM
Antrim star in foreign game shocker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSWJ-RH56B8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSWJ-RH56B8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2007, 11:48:16 AM
That's a bloody good goal!!

Him and the brother play for a team in Belfast - not sure the name.

Sure young McGourty plays for DC and McGreevey played for them for a long while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 19, 2007, 12:04:45 PM
Who is it? Cant access Youtube at work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 19, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 19, 2007, 12:04:45 PM
Who is it? Cant access Youtube at work.

Tomas McCann of Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 19, 2007, 02:24:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 18, 2007, 09:00:03 PM
I'm devastated for the lad.
???

Id be devastated if I were you as well C.F
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on September 24, 2007, 01:59:37 PM
After checking the Antrim Website, Who the hell is responsible for arranging the fixtures?

Next weekend we were due to play Rasharkin but this has been changed as they are in the junior hurling final, the match has been refixed for Sunday 21st October. The day previous we are fixed to play Rossa.

If thats not bad enough over weekend 13/14th October we are down to play Sarsfields on Sunday and Davitts on Saturday (believe it or not at 7.00 in the evening) Also our hurlers have a match scheduled for the Saturday. How is it possible to play 4 matches in 2 weekends as well as throwing in hurling?

The last round of league games were due to be played 10th November but these have been changed to 6th/7th October (originally a free weekend as its county final)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 25, 2007, 12:17:36 AM
I think Stephen Wonder is the new head of fixtures in antrim- sure St Enda's are down to play Sarsfields in Div 2 league on sat at 3 then are down to play Dunloy THAT SAME EVENNG at 830 at Casement in the IFC final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2007, 03:46:17 PM
seems the move of cunningham to Naomh Gall has came through according to the hogan stand. can Saffron sam  confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 27, 2007, 04:14:22 PM
Is the Intermediate final due to be played this weekend? does anyone know the time and venue?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 27, 2007, 05:05:59 PM
From the front of the county website;

http://antrim.gaa.ie

JFC / IFC Final on Say 29th under lights.

7pm JFC Ahoghill v St. Agnes'
8:15pm IFC Dunloy v St. Enda's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 27, 2007, 05:08:59 PM
www.antrimgaa.net will sort you out stiffler.
Big poster on there - Under lights.
Junior - Ahoghill v St Agnes 7pm
Intermediate - Dunloy v St Endas 8.15pm

Predictions:
Ahoghill (know nothing of this one)
Dunloy (here's hoping anyway - Dunloy could do with some recognition for battling away at the football as well).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2007, 05:46:44 PM
Ahoghill shouldn't be near a junior championship - they're streets ahead of anything in that competition and should win by about ten. They should really challenge for Ulster in that competition too.

The intermediate should be interesting. I think Dunloy may just be too strong but I don't think there'll be much in the game at all. I don't think there's too much of an overlap with the hurlers these days so they shouldn't be impacted in that regard.

I would imagine all the Cunningham chat on the hogan stand site is rubbish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 28, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
Cheers lads. Should be a good nights football tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on September 28, 2007, 11:18:11 AM
intommygunn,

still a right few dual players in Dunloy yet, tomorrow night Gareth McAllister, Paudie Shivers, Colm Cunning, Darren Webb, Conor McKinley, Kevin McQuillian & Cahir Cunning will all be playing and hoping to play the following week.

Although gone are the days when 13 players togged out for both teams, of those above 3 where involved last week against the Dall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
Not too many starters there though max...

If all your hurlers played football over the years you'd have had some fine football teams. Pity your football suffered on account of the hurling. Dick O'Kane, Gary O'Kane, patch, Conor Cunning, Elliots etc. would have been very handy footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on September 28, 2007, 03:45:57 PM
Indeed they were, all these boys did play together for one year, we got to the semi final of the championship only to be beat in a tight game by Cargin over in rasharkin.  Don't think they had trained once all year, but still a very good team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2007, 03:53:24 PM
I actually remember being at that game. Gary O'Kane left footed free taker and wee Eamon McKee playing too if I mind rightly.

Blondie Gallagher beat youse that day if I mind rightly. Then Cargin got beat in the final by St Pauls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 28, 2007, 08:25:40 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 27, 2007, 03:46:17 PM
seems the move of cunningham to Naomh Gall has came through according to the hogan stand. can Saffron sam  confirm?

According to an un-named source close to the player, he will be lining out for for Lamh Dhearg in their next match.  Hope this helps.

Quote from: maxpower on September 28, 2007, 03:45:57 PM
Indeed they were, all these boys did play together for one year, we got to the semi final of the championship only to be beat in a tight game by Cargin over in rasharkin.  Don't think they had trained once all year, but still a very good team
I remember another close Dunloy match against St. Gall's also in Rasharkin (part of a double header with St. John's / Cargin (the famed Eddie McToal lasted about 8 seconds)). There is no doubt if all the hurlers had concentrated on the football, Dunloy would have been a great side and a very clean, sporting one at that. Nipper played a bit of football as well.  I always thought Scruff McIlhatton was a half decent footballer.  What ever happened Yucker, haven't seen him mentioned in years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
Yucker is down in Clonduff. Married Ross Carr's sister many moons ago and headed down there to put down roots. Think he still teaches up in Belfast (Sean MCGourty's school) if I'm not mistaken? Good lad yucker.

Eventually beat St Galls one year up in Casement. Can't remember the year. Don't know if it was a shock to them or not but Dunloy thought it was a great victory at the time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 28, 2007, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 28, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
Yucker is down in Clonduff. Married Ross Carr's sister many moons ago and headed down there to put down roots. Think he still teaches up in Belfast (Sean MCGourty's school) if I'm not mistaken? Good lad yucker.

Eventually beat St Galls one year up in Casement. Can't remember the year. Don't know if it was a shock to them or not but Dunloy thought it was a great victory at the time?

Feck, I never put two and two together.  Always knew him as Yucker, thought he might have been McGilligan but wasn't sure. None of them Dunloy boys had real names.  I have come across him a few times recently without realising.  A good lad is Alastair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hungry Exile on September 29, 2007, 07:11:53 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 06, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Perhaps i can help....to get a transfer in Derry to another club...is like getting blood from a stone

Max,
Rich from you  - Did Bellaghy no start with Ronan Rocks (ala Loup) & Gavin Diamond (did he not start with Lavey) in the last championship match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 29, 2007, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on September 28, 2007, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 28, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
Yucker is down in Clonduff. Married Ross Carr's sister many moons ago and headed down there to put down roots. Think he still teaches up in Belfast (Sean MCGourty's school) if I'm not mistaken? Good lad yucker.

Eventually beat St Galls one year up in Casement. Can't remember the year. Don't know if it was a shock to them or not but Dunloy thought it was a great victory at the time?

Feck, I never put two and two together.  Always knew him as Yucker, thought he might have been McGilligan but wasn't sure. None of them Dunloy boys had real names.  I have come across him a few times recently without realising.  A good lad is Alastair.

Is it Thomas Mc Gilligan you are talking about? he was also known as "Bograt" !!! He went to St Marys teacher training & said to Chris Hamill once" i bet you youse boys didnt think i would have got to St Marys" to which Hamill replied " Thomas i didnt think you could spell St Marys"........End of conversation.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2007, 02:40:50 PM
Hungry I'm no expert but I'd very much doubt a Diamond started out at Lavey.

Whatever happened to bograt - he was the best player at his age for Dunloy and now I don't see him in football or hurling...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
Such wit Rocky ....you literally are the man of the one liners (judging by the number of lines in most of your posts). Adrian must never get a word in edge ways.

FYI the said person is quite a decent fella and didn't have that nickname. There wouldn't be too many people in our club who put in the same effort. He trains & plays in both codes, coaches as well as referees and is well liked by those who know him, hence the reason why this type of limp character assasination irritates me. But hey don't let those things get in the way of a good  :-\ story

I'm sure you can bring more to these discussions rather than spout shite like this. If you'd any decency you'd remove that message

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 29, 2007, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
Such wit Rocky ....you literally are the man of the one liners (judging by the number of lines in most of your posts). Adrian must never get a word in edge ways.

FYI the said person is quite a decent fella and didn't have that nickname. There wouldn't be too many people in our club who put in the same effort. He trains & plays in both codes, coaches as well as referees and is well liked by those who know him, hence the reason why this type of limp character assasination irritates me. But hey don't let those things get in the way of a good  :-\ story

I'm sure you can bring more to these discussions rather than spout shite like this. If you'd any decency you'd remove that message


Skull you are so far up your own arse its unbelievable but i will agree with you Mc Gilligan is a good lad alright, why should i remove that message? the anecdote i mentioned took place and Mc Gilligan took it in good spirit & as for the nickname Mc Gilligan never had a problem being called it so why the hell should you? You shouldnt take yourself so seriously because i dont think anyone else does.Character assasination? catch yourself on and dont be so precious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 09:04:29 PM
4 lines this time Rocky....must have had some effect on you  :-*

You might want to explain why I'm so far up my own arse, because only by responding to you have I got you to acknowledge that he is indeed a good lad? I don't think anybody would have got that from your first post, in fact they would get completely the opposite. I said if you had any decency you would remove the message. I didn't think you would. I got what I wanted from my reply so no regrets. He's a good lad and now everybody that reads this will see that. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on September 29, 2007, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 09:04:29 PM
4 lines this time Rocky....must have had some effect on you  :-*

You might want to explain why I'm so far up my own arse, because only by responding to you have I got you to acknowledge that he is indeed a good lad? I don't think anybody would have got that from your first post, in fact they would get completely the opposite. I said if you had any decency you would remove the message. I didn't think you would. I got what I wanted from my reply so no regrets. He's a good lad and now everybody that reads this will see that. 



I have maybe missed something skull between you and Balboa but what does the length/brevity of someones posts prove? Some people on here say a lot and fcuk all at the same time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 29, 2007, 11:30:44 PM
who won the intermediate??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 29, 2007, 11:39:20 PM
Quote from: Hungry Exile on September 29, 2007, 07:11:53 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 06, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Perhaps i can help....to get a transfer in Derry to another club...is like getting blood from a stone

Max,
Rich from you  - Did Bellaghy no start with Ronan Rocks (ala Loup) & Gavin Diamond (did he not start with Lavey) in the last championship match?

Hi tool, Rocks lives in bellaghy, has been living their for the past five years and is married to a Bellaghy woman. he is now a father of a young boy who will of course play for the blues. He is fully integrated into the community and pays his dues to the local church ;) Gavain Diamond is born and bred in the area of ballynease, which is the parish of Bellaghy, he has played all his football for bellaghy from the day he was born :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 29, 2007, 11:46:53 PM
aye saw that junior result on the antrim website H'station but was wanting to know that internediate one
Saw the lights on and was gonna head 2 the match but family turned up so cudnt go.

would say that ahoghill team should put up a better showing than our previous junior representatives in the last few years who have been atricious and nothin short of an embarrassment to the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on September 29, 2007, 09:51:40 PM
I have maybe missed something skull between you and Balboa but what does the length/brevity of someones posts prove? Some people on here say a lot and fcuk all at the same time.

Then there are some people who say very little and say f**k all as a result....I have no idea what point your trying to make?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2007, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 29, 2007, 11:30:44 PM
who won the intermediate??

Dunloy won by 12 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 30, 2007, 05:36:03 PM
wot was the score? thought the Enda's wudda done better

-dunloy mite win a game or 2 in ulster--u'd like to think so as they must be the only Div 1 team in Ulster playin in the Intermediate Ulster Club--if St Brigids from Div 3 could draw and throw the game away to get bait by a poin by the Tyrone champs then Dunloy surely must b lookin 2 win the thing

no doubt ahoghill think they'll b back in croker..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2007, 10:05:09 AM
well done to the Dunloy footballers on winning the Intermediate Championship on Sat night.  played really well and have a deadly sharp forward unit on that showing.

Finally after 5 years of trying at intermediate level can the boys now give senior a lash
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2007, 11:00:15 AM
The best team won no doubt about it. A couple of soft goals conceded killed St.Endas plus the pace of the Dunloy attack. See the Dunloy Celtic supporters club turned up to, smokin in the stand, carryouts at their feet, soccer tops. Well done Dunloy, a fantastic achievement for any dual club but leave these hallions at home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2007, 11:17:55 AM
I think it was a case of some lads could decide to go out on the lash or go and watch the team so did both, a consequence of playing a 8:30pm on saturday night, a couple of hours earilier and their have been no problem.

To be honest they didn't behave particularly badly, a bit of foul language but nothing serious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 01, 2007, 11:22:53 AM
Expected a better showing for Endas, but I think the 2 1st half goals within a minute was a killer blow. Dunloy made the extra man count in the 2nd half, and in the end deserved their win.

I hope now that Dunloy and Ahoghill can go on and succeed in the Ulster series.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on October 01, 2007, 11:54:43 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 01, 2007, 11:00:15 AM
The best team won no doubt about it. A couple of soft goals conceded killed St.Endas plus the pace of the Dunloy attack. See the Dunloy Celtic supporters club turned up to, smokin in the stand, carryouts at their feet, soccer tops. Well done Dunloy, a fantastic achievement for any dual club but leave these hallions at home.

I think its fair to say Dunloy have had this type of element in their support for a while now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2007, 12:08:07 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on October 01, 2007, 11:54:43 AM
I think its fair to say Dunloy have had this type of element in their support for a while now.

What? Scummy Bandwagoners? Doesn't every successful team get them at that stage of competition? I wish they weren't there either as they do nothing for their clubs but it's a free country and they pay their money at the gate so what do you do? I would have expected stewards to have taken the carryouts off them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
No chat about the ports V St galls on Sunday. is a massive upset on the cards? The Ports played G'ullin in a challenge 2 weeks ago and really put it up to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on October 03, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
No chat about the ports V St galls on Sunday. is a massive upset on the cards? The Ports played G'ullin in a challenge 2 weeks ago and really put it up to them.

Are you eyeing up a potential derby later on down the line max??  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on October 03, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
No chat about the ports V St galls on Sunday. is a massive upset on the cards? The Ports played G'ullin in a challenge 2 weeks ago and really put it up to them.

Are you eyeing up a potential derby later on down the line max??  ;)

That would some thought...revenge on St.Galls would be better thou


i am amazed that John Joe has not been on here offering his words of wisdom, especially with the ports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 03, 2007, 03:24:20 PM
Seems very strange that there has been no hype from the ports men on this site, is there a media ban on, no comments on how things are going, Max we played Ballinderry a few weeks ago and beat them, this result means nothing now that they were well and truly dumped by G'ullin

Was this a bad day at the office or are the G'ullin team up to the task?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 03, 2007, 03:24:20 PM
Seems very strange that there has been no hype from the ports men on this site, is there a media ban on, no comments on how things are going, Max we played Ballinderry a few weeks ago and beat them, this result means nothing now that they were well and truly dumped by G'ullin

Was this a bad day at the office or are the G'ullin team up to the task?


Any team that has Paddy and Eoin Bradley will take abit of watching. They are well organised and very hungry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2007, 04:16:02 PM
It's very hard to see anything other than a St Galls win. Portglenone have some decent players granted but none of them seemed to ever make the cut of county football whereas St Galls have quite a few who have.

In saying that I think Portglenone have capable enough defenders so young CJ won't score anything like 2-7 and it should be tighter than the Creggan game. I'd love to see Portglenone win, no offense Milltown, but I just can't see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2007, 11:41:17 PM
St Galls will win this by 9-12 points.

Are Lamh Dhearg down yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 04, 2007, 11:28:20 AM
If my memory serves me well I think that the last time they played in the county final it was brutal game. A point in at half time...someting like taht!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2007, 01:55:54 PM
ports played a very negitive game that day, flooded midfield and defence, we never got out of first gear and were never really troubled. will be totally different this time round (i hope)

i hope Ports come out and try and play football. they ran us close in the league games, and have done over the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 04, 2007, 03:26:15 PM
As Slim (Where has he really gone?) lambasted me for putting any stock in Portglenone running St Galls close in the league I am inclined to agree with him in this instance.

I pray that this is not the case but if St Galls turn it on, and in a county final they should do, they should run out winners by 8-12 points.

Am hoping for some sort of upset, even running them close, but I fear not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
Hard to see anything other than a big victory for Naomh Gall.  You can't compare this game with the Glenullen / Ballinderry win, because with the fabulous Baker boys, Glenullen always had a puncher's chance. Portglenone, on the other hand don't have a single forward who would make the St. Gall's forward line.  It;s very nice to see a wee club like Portglenone, who have suffered and continue to suffer from the naked sectarian bigotry of their neighbours, make a county final, but that's all they'll do. Their manager is a failure and was rail-roaded out of his home club and county - what would that say about Antrim football were he to be successful in Aontroim.

However, I detect more than a hint of over confidence down Milltown Row.  If St. Gall's were playing Cargin would Kevin McGourty be starting on the bench. I also could have sworn that I saw a St. Gall's man (wearing a Roma top) at Old Trafford on Tuesday night and the same boyo at Celtic Park 24 hours later.  He was telling anyone who would listen "Didn't I tell you to back Longstone".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
Hard to see anything other than a big victory for Naomh Gall.  You can't compare this game with the Glenullen / Ballinderry win, because with the fabulous Baker boys, Glenullen always had a puncher's chance. Portglenone, on the other hand don't have a single forward who would make the St. Gall's forward line.  It;s very nice to see a wee club like Portglenone, who have suffered and continue to suffer from the naked sectarian bigotry of their neighbours, make a county final, but that's all they'll do. Their manager is a failure and was rail-roaded out of his home club and county - what would that say about Antrim football were he to be successful in Aontroim.

However, I detect more than a hint of over confidence down Milltown Row.  If St. Gall's were playing Cargin would Kevin McGourty be starting on the bench. I also could have sworn that I saw a St. Gall's man (wearing a Roma top) at Old Trafford on Tuesday night and the same boyo at Celtic Park 24 hours later.  He was telling anyone who would listen "Didn't I tell you to back Longstone".

So the fellas that have been busting their balls all year should quietly step aside and let "Shaws Road" slot in, would do wonders for team morale i would imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 10:11:53 PM
I do a football syndicate at work where the three of us pick a team each and we do a treble, i was thinking of throwing St Galls on top of the 3 teams at 1/4 just to top up the winnings. They are both "steel rods" so wouldnt know any difference.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 06, 2007, 11:48:19 AM
ciaran mc gourty wont be starting on sunday, and kevin wont be starting on sunday either, simple.

the team thats played most of the championship will line out the same, paddy flan at corner back is the only change due to injury

everybody has us up by 9/10 points it will be closer than that, trust me.

our lads are playing well but this is a one off, anything can happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 07, 2007, 03:12:20 PM
Any scores lads? Have good bit money riding on this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on October 07, 2007, 04:05:01 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7032685.stm

Comfortable for St Galls, apparently a shocking game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 07, 2007, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
I also could have sworn that I saw a St. Gall's man (wearing a Roma top) at Old Trafford on Tuesday night and the same boyo at Celtic Park 24 hours later.  He was telling anyone who would listen "Didn't I tell you to back Longstone".

Ciaran Mcgourty and your right he was at both matches and wearing a roma top! I thought he was motm today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on October 07, 2007, 09:01:18 PM
Well done to St Galls - hard luck to Portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 07, 2007, 09:30:54 PM
This is without doubt the worst county final that I have ever the mispleasure to witness. How a team like the ports should get to a county final is not a compliment to the other club teams in Antrim. The Ports deserve credit for getting ther thou as you can only beat whats put up against you. St Galls never really were stretched at any time and the panel they have is top drawer. Gallagher and the Mc Gourty on the subs bench demostrates the quality they have. But they need to kick the ball more to take advantage of the forward line they have. St galls will give the Ulster club a mighty push this yaer...if they dont it would be a crying shame with the team they have. they will improve considerably
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 07, 2007, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 07, 2007, 09:30:54 PM
This is without doubt the worst county final that I have ever the mispleasure to witness. How a team like the ports should get to a county final is not a compliment to the other club teams in Antrim. The Ports deserve credit for getting ther thou as you can only beat whats put up against you. St Galls never really were stretched at any time and the panel they have is top drawer. Gallagher and the Mc Gourty on the subs bench demostrates the quality they have. But they need to kick the ball more to take advantage of the forward line they have. St galls will give the Ulster club a mighty push this yaer...if they dont it would be a crying shame with the team they have. they will improve considerably

Max you are a master at talking everyone else up, i suppose Bellaghy will probably not even turn up for the Derry final.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 07, 2007, 11:33:37 PM
QuoteMax you are a master at talking everyone else up, i suppose Bellaghy will probably not even turn up for the Derry final.......

You would need to be a dummy not to be able to see the quality in that St.Galls side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 02:15:23 PM
Gees that was a brutal match.

St Galls are an excellent team and Portglenone were a million miles of them but they were in the final for a reason and to be honest are very probably the second best club in the county.

St Galls could take off a load of better players at the end and still win at their leisure.

They will need to improve to win Ulster and will perhaps be worried by their lack of tight games. However that is a quality side and if you consider Aodhan Gallagher didn't start and neither did Kevin McGourty there'll be more to come from them.

I was surprised McLean got man of the match as I thought Storey did reasonably well on him when he came on. I thought Kieran McGourty would have merited it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 08, 2007, 06:25:19 PM
Personally I think Cargin are the second best team in the county and fell due to their own complacency.

However, Portglenone if they had taken all their chances in the first half would have gone in level/a point down. And even in the second half...when you are such a heavy underdog everything has to go right for you and you have to take ALL chances presented to them. They didn't.

But I suppose it was the case that St Galls were only going to a level they needed to.

Was CJ injured or just taken off for a rest?

Portglenone are quite a young team still so will be there or thereabouts for the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 08, 2007, 11:37:57 PM
Someone said that Portglenone had played noone on the way to the final.
What great teams did they not play that i have missed in Antrim??
Who could they have played?
St Galls are way out in front--then Cargin(who have nowhere near a panel like the Gall's) then its really anyone on their day.

I was surprised when St Galls were beaten last year--i thought they would do a Crossmaglen style 12 in a row--i cant see them getting beaten for another 5 years at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2007, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 08, 2007, 11:52:31 PM
On a side note, what is the craic with Ciaran Mc Gourty and the county panel? Has he ever been asked on to it and if so, why did he refuse? He is as good a forward as you will find in the county and it seems strange that he hasn't played on the county team.

Kieran played once I think during the failed regime of Mickey Culbert. The Antrim county board had insisted on a maximum panel size of 24. This was 24 for matches, training sessions, expenses, TBF, the whole heap. This meant that when Antrim went in to play Meath in the qualifiers they had about 16 fit players.  Culbert then had to draw in a few boys at the last minute and Kieran was one of them, possibly because he lived close to Casement and could get to the ground quickly. Anyhow, a full appearance (and 4 points) in said game is the height of the eldest McGourty's senior Inter-county career.  He has also dabbled with the soccer a bit and has played on DC's first team as a silkily skilled left back and has never therefore really got the chance with Antrim.

Which is a shame, because on his day, they are few better or more skilful footballers in the game.  I would like to see him as the forty yards man, he certainly has the brains, the skill and the passing ability to play there in the mould of a Brian McGuigan type player. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2007, 10:06:06 AM
Cargin are realistically the only team with players to beat St Galls alright so I couldn't see St Galls doing a Crossmaglen. In Crozier, Tomas McCann and a few other young boys they have a good solid base of young players. If they have their attitude right then on a goo day they're capable of beating St Galls but to me the key point is if they have their attitude right.

Ciaran McGourty played county a few years ago. Don't think he got a call last year because he would only have been a sub in St Galls all ireland run if I'm right?

Not sure I agree with you Glensman in Portglenone having the chances to be level at half time. It looked like they weren't even going to score for a while.

I think my statement about Portglenone being 2nd best in the county was wrong - they'd be third with Cargin second. They beat all other takers for third place though unless Creggan could be considered third best but sure look at what St Galls did to them. Realistically it's St Galls, Cargin and then everyone else a mile behind them. It's little wonder division 1 teams are looking to go into the intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 09, 2007, 01:12:34 PM
no keiran had an injury which kept him out of most matches from the start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2007, 02:06:52 PM
He'd be 27 - perhaps 28 if he's old for his school year if you know what I mean.

Definitely a very good footballer. Apparently the only player to ever have received castlewellan player of the tournament twice which is good going considering the talent that's there been at it over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2007, 02:09:57 PM
He played in the Ulster minor final in 1998, so won't be 28 until next year.

No call up to the county squad for him yet, although I am led to believe that at least 3 of the Portglenone team are back in the fold.  Could anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 09, 2007, 02:45:08 PM
think he's a better hurler though, could make the county hurling team, haas been one of our best players for many a year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 10, 2007, 12:43:13 AM
Gribbies took his wife's surname after marrying her!

Ciaran McGourt has been asked onto county panels numerous times but has never seemed to want to give the commitment, never seemed to want to do the physical stuff of pre-season but in fairness is the type who dosnt need to--if he wanted he could play centre forward or in the corner or wherever--but he seems far happier playin for the Galls.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on October 12, 2007, 12:34:23 PM
Aquazur, I have deleted a post on page 98, brought to the mods attention recently,  where you made public the name of a poster on this board. This is against the rules of this forum, and many others. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but any further incidents will earn a ban.

cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on October 13, 2007, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 10, 2007, 12:43:13 AM
Gribbies took his wife's surname after marrying her!

Ciaran McGourt has been asked onto county panels numerous times but has never seemed to want to give the commitment, never seemed to want to do the physical stuff of pre-season but in fairness is the type who dosnt need to--if he wanted he could play centre forward or in the corner or wherever--but he seems far happier playin for the Galls.



He nees to improve his discipline for a start - thought he should have kept it shut in Croker (club final) & played on instead of cribbinbg at ref.  Ability alone doesnt make a great player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 13, 2007, 11:11:43 PM
I think you are thinking of the brother Kevin, or "Shaws Road" as he is known on this board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on October 13, 2007, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 13, 2007, 11:11:43 PM
I think you are thinking of the brother Kevin, or "Shaws Road" as he is known on this board.

Ah
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 14, 2007, 11:02:04 PM
Lamh Dhearg down yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 14, 2007, 11:33:36 PM
If that's right, it looks like they beat St Paul's today. There's a dying kick in Hannahstown yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2007, 11:59:41 PM
Is there a cut off for the leagues this year? Don't know when Dunloy footballers will get those matches played
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 15, 2007, 09:35:46 PM
play-off

St Brigids are 2 points ahead of Rasharkin with 2 to go--they play this wkend in Rasharkin which should be competitive.

St Brigids drew with Aghagallon yesterday while Sharkin tanked the Rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 16, 2007, 08:58:59 AM
What has become of John Joe...he use to be regular poster here....then he just disappeared. Did he and Slim run off together :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 16, 2007, 10:39:52 PM
Are we gonna beat Cavan?

Id say we could but sure its a long way away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 16, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 16, 2007, 10:39:52 PM
Are we gonna beat Cavan?

Id say we could but sure its a long way away

We might beat them, or we might not, or it could be a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 16, 2007, 10:47:34 PM
or there may be a thunderstorm and the match may get postponed--could be played the week after in glorious sunshine--we may all get in for free- Smickers will wander in thinkn DC are playin and we could be gettin beat, then the match may be abandoned if theres a fight or serious injury.

Good prediction champ, thoughtful insight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 18, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
is that championship match home or away to cavan?

hope jody changes his defensive tactics! will there be any new faces making it through to the squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 19, 2007, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on October 18, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
is that championship match home or away to cavan?

hope jody changes his defensive tactics! will there be any new faces making it through to the squad?

Michael Pollock (Gorts), Mark Graham (Portglenone) and Liam Carlin (St. Paul's) are the only new names I've heard. Joe Quinn back for another year and only one McGourty.

Don't know about improved defensive tactics, running techniques appear to be much more important.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 19, 2007, 03:31:07 PM
What about picking men up in the last seconds of a final. i'm sure they will work on that tactic :'(

CJ may not be available due to injury for the national league, currently playing with injury.

so if we win against Cavan, do we then get into the qualifiers? or do we still have to beat Armagh. and if we win the div 4 national league is that us out of the Tommy Murphy Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2007, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 19, 2007, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on October 18, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
is that championship match home or away to cavan?

hope jody changes his defensive tactics! will there be any new faces making it through to the squad?

Michael Pollock (Gorts), Mark Graham (Portglenone) and Liam Carlin (St. Paul's) are the only new names I've heard. Joe Quinn back for another year and only one McGourty.

Don't know about improved defensive tactics, running techniques appear to be much more important.

Jesus ...fair play to Big Joe...he's given plenty to Antrim Football. It's easier to go back to a successful squad year on year, so full credit to his many years commitment through a lot of lean years. Don't really know the man but have chatted to him a few times. Seems like a sound bloke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 22, 2007, 05:19:16 PM
anyone hear anyting about Aldergrove / Lamh Dhearg  match at the weekend? what actually happened and who the ref was? curious to what happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 22, 2007, 09:08:29 PM
heard there was a big row at half time.

See Div 2 is tight as a drum after Sharkin beat Brids on sunday.

Wot do you's think of the county awards given out last week--do the players get prizes ie money, gear etc or just trophies ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 22, 2007, 09:11:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 19, 2007, 03:31:07 PM
What about picking men up in the last seconds of a final. i'm sure they will work on that tactic :'(

CJ may not be available due to injury for the national league, currently playing with injury.

so if we win against Cavan, do we then get into the qualifiers? or do we still have to beat Armagh. and if we win the div 4 national league is that us out of the Tommy Murphy Cup?

My understanding would be that to get out of the TM cup and into the qualifiers, Antrim must either:

1. Get promoted from division 4.
2. Qualify for the Ulster final by beating Cavan, Armagh and probably Tyrone.

Well done Dr. McSparran. The flights are being booked already.

As for tactics etc. we are no better off than this time last year, but at least we will be experts in running techniques.

Quote from: theskull1 on October 19, 2007, 04:12:18 PM
Jesus ...fair play to Big Joe...he's given plenty to Antrim Football. It's easier to go back to a successful squad year on year, so full credit to his many years commitment through a lot of lean years. Don't really know the man but have chatted to him a few times. Seems like a sound bloke

Joe owes nobdy anything at this stage, especially given his family circumstances.  Had heard that he had packed it in, but he must be giving it another year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gaelicy O Flaherty on October 22, 2007, 11:54:02 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Setanta's, Ballymoney?  I played for them a few of years back but have since moved away, I noticed they don't seem to be in the league this year.  I think it is a shame if certain elements in the town have had their way and the club has folded, they had one or two decent players and seemed to be fostering a great parish identity.  I hope it is not related to Liam Beckett's comments that it was introducing a Republican element into Ballymoney.  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 26, 2007, 03:41:51 PM
was driving through west belfast today when i tuned into Feile FM 103.2 where i heard Kevin McGourty (shaws road) who has his own wee slot on the station.

every friday -  14:30pm to 15:30pm   "Radio GAA GAA"

did anyone listen to this, i only caught the end of it and the topic of conversation was about the GPA and about St Galls ladies in the Ulster Football Final this weekend and how their senior footballers have two football matches on the same day, whereas Dunloy do not have a football game with their hurlers in the Ulster Hurling Final.


at first i was shocked when i heard McGourty presenting on the radio, but nothing surprises me with that man!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2007, 04:58:06 PM
Sam - I notice your comments with regard to the running.

Surely this is the time to build the fitness levels and the games / league are the times to develop some tactics??

I would have thought it be a bit early to be getting cynical.

I would be reasonably positive about the football next year. We have a draw in the ulster championship which we are capable of winning if we have everyone available and things are going well.

I'm not sure we'll get out of division 4 this year but if we get a good few wins under our belt and get some confidence built up that should be a big help for the championship anyway and if everything goes really well we could win division 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on October 30, 2007, 10:21:22 AM
Lads, what are the Dunloy footballers like? I see they are propping up Div 1 but won the Intermediate. They have any lads on the County set-up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 01, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
tintin25 - Dunloy footballers are pretty poor and have no players on the county set up.
i.e. Away and fish for information elsewhere!!

Good luck to the competing Antrim teams over the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:38:23 PM
I believe all 3 McGourtys are carrying injuries with CJ the most doubtful. Cavan are a useful side. I can see the Breffni nicking this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 01, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:38:23 PM
I believe all 3 McGourtys are carrying injuries with CJ the most doubtful. Cavan are a useful side. I can see the Breffni nicking this one.

I think CJ is out and Shaws Road will probably inform us via the Irish News in next couple of days if he will be playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on November 01, 2007, 10:32:02 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 01, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:38:23 PM
I believe all 3 McGourtys are carrying injuries with CJ the most doubtful. Cavan are a useful side. I can see the Breffni nicking this one.

I think CJ is out and Shaws Road will probably inform us via the Irish News in next couple of days if he will be playing.

you couldnt believe whats coming out of either camp at this stage  ::) - cavan to win regardless of what teams put out against them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 02, 2007, 12:07:39 PM
i see dunloy footballers are playing their ulster intermediate cship match on sunday @ loughuile.
i remember hearing that loughuile wouldnt allow footballers on their pitch to train - maybe that was only a tale
but its the first i heard of a football match there , although ofcourse no doubt im totally wrong !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 02, 2007, 12:12:39 PM
It's the first time I've ever heard of a football match at Loughgiel.

I worry about St Galls and all the hype around them. I heard it said that they would only put young McGourty on "if they needed him". This Cavan Gaels team contains two superb forwards in Lyng and Seanie Johnston who will cause St Galls a lot of bother and if they are in any way complacent I think they could be in trouble. They also have Anthony Forde and a few other useful boys who will take a lot of watching.

If they think this game is an easy game they are in serious trouble.

However in saying that maybe I'm reading too much into it. I hope they win - would take them to win by one or two but to have a tighter game than anything they've seen all year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 02, 2007, 01:16:21 PM
I share your fears for the St Galls lads, as an interested spectator over the last few years i always felt St Galls never really put on a show in County finals because they struggled to deal with the tag of favouritism, when they went onto Ulster they always equipped themselves well againt the top teams.

The vibes this year is almost like St Galls are the top team (along with Crossmaglen), which may be true, but unlike in Antrim the teams in the Ulster championship will have more than enough quality to chin them if they don't bring there A game.  Hope St Galls do win and give Ulster another lash,

With regards to Loughgiel, i remember hearing a story a few years ago where a few shamrocks wanted to start up a junior football club (for the craic) but where told in no uncertain terms they wold get to use the field.  Maybe just an urban legend.

Good luck to the Dunloy lads on Sunday,  i actually have my concerns as too whether an extended run in this competition will actually be good for the team.  If they do go on a run (and say get to a final) then they will have used up 3 of the 4 weekends available in Nov for playing the 7 league matches they have outstanding.  Therefore they would get relegated for certain.  that would mean play senior championship next year from div2, an early exit there and failure to win promotion could potentially have a serious impact on the team.

However, loss next week, play all 7 league games against teams who have stopped training months ago, and you may just stay in Div1.

But championship is championship, and winning will be all thats on anyones mind on sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 02, 2007, 01:44:27 PM
How anybody can say that Naomh Gall will take this game lightly is beyond me, they are nobody's fools and with the game at Casement they are certainly up for it. Getting Cavan Gaels, who have had plenty of experience of Ulster club football, will put those ideas of an easy match out of their heads. The squad is actually stronger this year with the likes of Burkey and CJ now playing. Quality players for every position and certain established players not guaranteed a place on the team means everybody is fighting to get on.

CJ is really injured but I'm sure he'll play some part, he's good for 3 points, and with Ulster club games this time of year they usually are low scoring affairs.

Naomh Gall to win by 3 points, it will be tight up on till last 5 and hopefully we will pull away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 02, 2007, 04:51:49 PM
"With regards to Loughgiel, i remember hearing a story a few years ago where a few shamrocks wanted to start up a junior football club (for the craic) but where told in no uncertain terms they wold get to use the field.  Maybe just an urban legend."

Heard this myself, I think they actually started training but when the guys that look after the pitch saw the damage that was being done to the surface a swift halt was called and it hasn't been heard of since. Fair enough I say as  it is very evident when you walk on to the pitch of a hurling only club, and this is not just down to how often it is used.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 04, 2007, 06:53:55 PM
Congratulations to St Brigid's winning Div 2 today --some going winning Div 5, 4, 3 and then 2 in a row!

St Gall's looked powerful in Casement today-will take some stopping altho Glenullin had a good win over Newtown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 04, 2007, 08:06:51 PM
Agreed Gold watched St Galls today and they were way better than Cavan, some of their long foot passing into the full forward line was especially good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on November 04, 2007, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2007, 06:53:55 PM
Congratulations to St Brigid's winning Div 2 today --some going winning Div 5, 4, 3 and then 2 in a row!

St Gall's looked powerful in Casement today-will take some stopping altho Glenullin had a good win over Newtown

gold did the mcgourtys all play today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2007, 09:29:25 PM
So Ahoghill got beat, St Galls and Armoy won.

Anyone know how Dunloy footballers did?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on November 04, 2007, 09:44:04 PM
Heard Dunloy won by a point...but not 100% sure.

Well done to all the Antrim clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on November 04, 2007, 09:48:04 PM
Dunloy 1-06 Kinawley 0-08. This was definitely a game of two halves with Dunloy impressive in the first and Kinawley the second. They probably should have been out of sight but kicked alot of bad wides in the first half. Kinawley came into it more in the second half and deserved a draw at least. The referee made some quite bizarre decisions that the Fermanagh lads can feel aggrieved with. From what I seen, I can't see Dunloy progressing too far but wish them all the best nevertheless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2007, 10:21:25 PM
Fair play to Dunloy.

Hopefully themselves and St Galls can go far. Anyone know where the st galls semi is?

The antrim sides seem to have a very bad record in the junior football competition. Ahoghill won Antrim easily and still got well beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 04, 2007, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: gaagaa on November 04, 2007, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2007, 06:53:55 PM
Congratulations to St Brigid's winning Div 2 today --some going winning Div 5, 4, 3 and then 2 in a row!

St Gall's looked powerful in Casement today-will take some stopping altho Glenullin had a good win over Newtown

gold did the mcgourtys all play today

Kevin played whole game-played well 3 good points, some blocks and covered the whole pitch
Kieran came on 5mins b4 half time--there was no real need for him to come on as Galls were flying at this stage and Sean Burns hadnt done anything wrong but i suppose hadnt been involved much as his marker Darren Rabbite seemed very fond of Burnsey's jersey! Kieran scored a point b4 half time but gave the ball away 3 or 4 times in 2nd half which u wouldnt expect from him(he was the only player who seemed to give the ball away on that team 2day
CJ came on with 10 to go-kicked 2 wides from way out and then scored a good point from the left at the death

St Galls put in some amount of blocks and didnt let Cavan play at all--Terry O'Neill and the entire half-back line put in a serious amount of work.
Burkey played well in midfield but a problem may be that they didnt win any clean ball in the middle--O'Neill and Aidso Gallagher were the only 2 who caught ball high above their heads.
Seanie Johnstone didnt start altho he was dangerous when he came on--scored a few points and had a goal chance beat wide by Ronnie Gallagher. Lyng was busy and skilful but he and Ford seemed frustrated and pushed out at Galls players as they simply couldnt get by them or stop them.
Niblock linked well and kicked a good score to put them 10-5 up but the Gall's forwards wernt in great form with Karl letting a few balls slip through his hands(no gloves on) altho he kicked about 4 scores. Gaels had a few good individuals but Gall's are as good a team as ive seen.

Will be interesting to see how they cope with the Bradleys but i cant imagine Glenullin will have much more than those 2 in the forwards.

Fair play to Dunloy although fermanagh football is never the strongest but any win in Ulster for Antrim teams is welcomed!

On another note if Antrim plays enough of those Gall's boys Antrim should have too much for Cavan in Casement next spring--im confident of that and its not often you can say that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on November 05, 2007, 01:51:45 PM
St Galls will face a tough challenge from Glenullin. this team has beat Slauthneil, Bellaghy and Ballinderry on their route to glory....and picked up the Ulster leauge earlier in the year.St Galls are full of their own self importance i fee (going by the spoofin their manager has been at) . Not to be stirring it up or anything  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 05, 2007, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2007, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: gaagaa on November 04, 2007, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2007, 06:53:55 PM
Congratulations to St Brigid's winning Div 2 today --some going winning Div 5, 4, 3 and then 2 in a row!

St Gall's looked powerful in Casement today-will take some stopping altho Glenullin had a good win over Newtown

gold did the mcgourtys all play today


On another note if Antrim plays enough of those Gall's boys Antrim should have too much for Cavan in Casement next spring--im confident of that and its not often you can say that

Its not as if we havent had St Galls representation on the Antrim panel, and it has still ended in defeat. St Galls are an excellent, well drilled, organised club team but plenty of those lads have had a crack at inter county football and havent exactly set the world alight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glenullinabu on November 05, 2007, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2007, 11:13:50 PM

Will be interesting to see how they cope with the Bradleys but i cant imagine Glenullin will have much more than those 2 in the forwards.

On another note if Antrim plays enough of those Gall's boys Antrim should have too much for Cavan in Casement next spring--im confident of that and its not often you can say that

Gold we are only going to the semi for the day out - at least we'll be able to say we'll have been beaten by the eventual ulster champions ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
St Galls are as good as any club side in Ireland on their day. As I said on the Ulster thread, their first half performance was as good as any i've seen from a club side at this level. Who were the last side to beat them at Ulster Club level? Must've been in 2004.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 05, 2007, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
St Galls are as good as any club side in Ireland on their day. As I said on the Ulster thread, their first half performance was as good as any i've seen from a club side at this level. Who were the last side to beat them at Ulster Club level? Must've been in 2004.

Why have they never won an All Ireland Club title then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 05, 2007, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 05, 2007, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
St Galls are as good as any club side in Ireland on their day. As I said on the Ulster thread, their first half performance was as good as any i've seen from a club side at this level. Who were the last side to beat them at Ulster Club level? Must've been in 2004.

Why have they never won an All Ireland Club title then?

because they were shite in a windswirled croke park last year

and because so mush of it comes down to luck--its so tight at that level--i remember big Muldoon struck for a goal in Casement in 01 when Galls looked certain to beat Ballinderry who went on to win the all-ireland
the year after they were about 6 up in enniskillen until Tom Brew couldnt miss and kicked about 7 in a row
after losing ulster final to An Lub the next year Carrickmore "out-foxed" them by the odd point in a 1/4 final replay before they won ulster and slipped up v cargin

Its tight as a ducks arse usually in Ulster--Glenullin could very well do a Loup and win the whole thing, one slip or wonder score may make the difference- no matter how could a team is one hoof up in the air or individual mistake can cost a team a year or a career
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 05, 2007, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: glenullinabu on November 05, 2007, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2007, 11:13:50 PM

Will be interesting to see how they cope with the Bradleys but i cant imagine Glenullin will have much more than those 2 in the forwards.

On another note if Antrim plays enough of those Gall's boys Antrim should have too much for Cavan in Casement next spring--im confident of that and its not often you can say that

Gold we are only going to the semi for the day out - at least we'll be able to say we'll have been beaten by the eventual ulster champions ::)

Hope u enjoy your day, make sure and get a feed in Goodfellas on Kennedy Way-hope u like flat Coke!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 12:54:41 PM
I  was really surprided to see CJ Mc Gourty line out with St Marys last night agianst the Poly in the Ryan Cup. He did not start the St Galls game with a reported groin injury, yet two days later turns out for St Marys. Surely IF he has had an injury this could not of helped, unless he was dropped at the weekend for his poor showming in their county final and the PR spin was the groin injury. Looks like all is not well in the St Galls camp. They are certainly not all singing from the hymn sheet as their manager who has repeatedly stated how committed and hungry this group of St Galls players are....the evidence does not back this up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2007, 01:13:33 PM
Not at the game on Sunday then Max?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 01:16:09 PM
He came on as a sub
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2007, 01:34:37 PM
max CJ is injured college football this time of the year is less demanding than Ulster club. i think duffin wanted to win the match without having to use players who others believe we wont win unless they play.

we got to an all ireland final without CJ playing, same group of players still playing bar Mc Girr

he came on last night and scored 1.5 what will be like when he starts against glenullin? who will be marking him Max? i wouldn't think they will double team him, seeing they are a quality team that beat all the best teams in Derry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on November 06, 2007, 01:53:42 PM
The Irish News are always making mistakes, this should be an interesting game

Sunday November 11
Reserve Football Competition (2.30pm):
Cargin 2 v Cargin 2 (S O'Boyle);
(2.30pm): St Paul's 2 v St Gall's 2
(B Toland); Maneely McCann Div 1
Football (2.30): Dunloy v Creggan;
Maneely McCann Div 3 Football
(2.30pm): Aldergrove v St John's
(S Conlon); Maneely McCann Division 1
Hurling (2.30): Sarsfield's v Lamh
Dhearg (R Matthew's); Rossa v
Ballygalget (F Trayno
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2007, 02:06:19 PM
It's cargin 2nds against cargin 3rds.

Max St Galls blew Cavan Gaels away on Sunday. If all was not well then I don't see how they'd have done that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 02:33:38 PM
Ok....but I just find it incredible that one of your main scoring threats is playing in a mickey mouse college match whenever your club is playing in an infinitely much bigger game 11 days later. It would not happen here...and if it did, well lets just say the individual might be better moving puit of our community for a few months. Maybe there is nothing wrong with it either, perhaps its the difference between country club and a city club...who knows....but I AM GENUINELY SHOCKED IT HAPPENED. The fact that he played without doubt contradicts what there manager has been saying about how committed and hungry his group of players are....well the evidnece suggests one of them is not fully committed to St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2007, 02:43:05 PM
He's young and if he came on Sunday then he was obviously near enough to fitness anyway so not sure it's such a big deal. I would imagine Duffin would have been consulted before he played and it could have been for match sharpness but who knows.

By all accounts St Galls had as high a work-rate as you would see on Sunday past so I doubt you can question their hunger.

If he has "broke ranks" you will hear about it no doubt but I'd be surprised.

SHOCKED - maybe a wee bit stong of a word...


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 02:47:20 PM
If the manager Oked it, it was major risk to take. I did not question the St Galls teams hunger, that is evident from so much success, but if CJ played without the managers OK, it begs big questions. But for me the bottom line is that it would not happen here, and ye can be sure that it would not happen in Cross either, club comes first every time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2007, 03:00:40 PM
Excellent point about Bradley Hardstation...

Sure Max is always on the wind up.

It's close season where he's from so he has to get involved about other teams ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 03:02:05 PM
I mean Bellaghy...explaining why Big Fergal Doc did not make himself available for Ulster....but apart from that would you not concede that playing in a railway cup final for Ulster certain knocks the shit out of a ryan cup cup match for St Marys.

By the way I could not understand bradley doing that either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 03:11:49 PM
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QuoteI mean Bellaghy...explaining why Big Fergal Doc did not make himself available for Ulster
I don't see the relevance of this.
[/quote]

the relevance is that it demostrates the selflessness of his attitde compared to the others we mentioned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2007, 03:37:10 PM
Yeah understand, but I still don't understand how these individuals or if it was there managers who gave them permission paint the picture of total committment, when it is not. I know if i was playing I would have reservations about them or the managers if that was the case. Everything thing that happens around a team is not in isolation, it has a knock on effect or a consequence effect and for me it would me we do not have a unit who are ALL, COMPLETELY committed. Thats just me...its may not be your cup of tea, but that is how it has to be for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2007, 04:05:26 PM
CJ wanted to start game as would anybody who's carry an injury because of the tie and where it was being played.

commitment is not judged on playing a college game commitment is judge on what he has done over the year. playing county, playing club hurling and football. conor played a county match in Clare on the saturday and on the Sunday played a hurling match in Ballycastle, thats commitment.

i'm sure everybody is fully aware of task ahead and it will take a good team to put them out of this club Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on November 06, 2007, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 06, 2007, 04:05:26 PM
commitment is not judged on playing a college game commitment is judge on what he has done over the year. playing county, playing club hurling and football. conor played a county match in Clare on the saturday and on the Sunday played a hurling match in Ballycastle, thats commitment.

Keeps him out of trouble, crime and vandalism on a Saturday night being a Belfast city boy where it takes extra commitment to do something worthwhile  ;D  (culchie beating expected  :D)

Never knew he played hurling, fine footballer though, seen him for Antrim in the Tommy Murphy cup final.  I hear he scored a bagful in the Antrim SFC semi final and they had 5 different man markers on him??  Any Antrim-ites confrim this?  Also how did he play in the Antrim SFC final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: highcatch on November 06, 2007, 10:14:57 PM
How many McGourtys are there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glenullinabu on November 06, 2007, 11:55:55 PM
Quote from: highcatch on November 06, 2007, 10:14:57 PM
How many McGourtys are there?

too many!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 07, 2007, 08:50:08 AM
 two sisters played in ulster football final 2 weeks ago and a week later played in a senior all ireland camogie final.

very sporting family
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
The McGourty question:

Kevin - Talented. Opinionated. Ambitious. Individualistic.
Kieran - Intelligent. Talented. Team Player. Untidy.
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Over-used.

SaffronSam would know more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 11, 2007, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
The McGourty question:

Kevin - Talented. Opinionated. Ambitious. Individualistic.
Kieran - Intelligent. Talented. Team Player. Untidy.
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Over-used.

SaffronSam would know more.

Are you still as friendly with Sean Mc Gourty, O'Neill? Not the most impartial observer are you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2007, 04:34:34 PM
I'd never compromise my integrity. So you're saying those descriptions are inaccurate? Let's hear the correct version then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 12, 2007, 09:47:17 AM
The craic will have to wait hardstation. Dunloy are playing Newbridge this weekend. Hopefully the Johnnies and StPauls will be fully into "off season" mode by the time Dunloy get to them  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2007, 09:55:03 AM
Should Dunloy not have 5 games to play (Lamh Dhearg plus 4) or is there a cut off date??

Rasharkin play second bottom don't they?

Could be an interesting game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 12, 2007, 10:14:15 AM
Dunloy have five league games to play, and Ulster semi-final (possibly a final) and an Ulster hurling league final to play, if they were to beat Newbridge (big ask) they would then surely be playing right up to christmas.

After the two results at the weekend it will certainly give them hope.  I was very impressed with them yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 12, 2007, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2007, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: maxpower on November 12, 2007, 10:14:15 AM
Dunloy have five league games to play, and Ulster semi-final (possibly a final) and an Ulster hurling league final to play, if they were to beat Newbridge (big ask) they would then surely be playing right up to christmas.

After the two results at the weekend it will certainly give them hope.  I was very impressed with them yesterday
Is this not done and dusted? Holy fcuk, what a nuisance.

In fairness, if someone was getting paid to administrate the competition, then the final stages of it might have been orginised better  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 12, 2007, 02:25:26 PM

Kevin - Talented. Opinionated. Ambitious. Individualistic.
Kieran - Intelligent. Talented. Team Player. Untidy.
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Over-used.


Are you still as friendly with Sean Mc Gourty, O'Neill? Not the most impartial observer are you?





ONeill

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I'd never compromise my integrity. So you're saying those descriptions are inaccurate? Let's hear the correct version then.


Heres a more accurate one for you Oneill:

Kevin - V.Talented. Opinionated. Individualistic. Big Headed, Complete Knob Should be playing for his county as they need him
Kieran - Intelligent.Team Player. Untidy. Average ability, but looks good because hes playing in agood team
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Over-used. one of the best prospects anywhere in ulster for YEARS. Wasted in Antrim


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2007, 02:56:19 PM
Another valuable post from Billy...

The Dunloy situation is interesting.

I think they can win two of their remaining games - against st pauls and st johns - but I'm not sure, though I hope I'm wrong, they can beat Lamh Dhearg.

St Johns and St Pauls are bad travellers at the best of times but at this time of year with nothing to play for they'll be worse.

If my predictions are right, which they often aren't but hey might as well give an opinion, then Moneyglass to go automatically and Dunloy for the play off against Rasharkin.

Of course there is then score difference which at the minute the difference stands as 8 in Dunloy's favour. With Cargin and St Galls to play I don't see that doing much for Dunloy's score difference though. Who knows - at least it makes the league interesting now as , as far as I know, the top end is sealed up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2007, 04:40:07 PM
Kieran is a very good player too and one of only two to win the castlewellan sevens POT twice.

Also man of the match in the county final.

Any club in Antrim and a lot more further afield would welcome him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2007, 06:00:23 PM
Kieran is arguably the St Gall's POTY this year and definitely the McGourty No.1 this season. A bit like Marc O Se out-performing Tomas and Dara in 2007.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 12, 2007, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
The McGourty question:

Kevin - Talented. Opinionated. Ambitious. Individualistic.
Kieran - Intelligent. Talented. Team Player. Untidy.
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Over-used.

SaffronSam would know more.

Not sure that I do Shane. Three very talented boys in different ways. Kieran would claim to be the most intelligent because he passed the 11 plus, Kevin would disagree because he went to Queen's. Kieran and Conor won Colleges' football All-Stars, but Kevin has the Sigerson medal (admittedly won at about the age of 32). All three have played for Donegal Celtic's first team and have about three Colleges' hurling All-Stars each. Conor is the only one with a middle name (John) and Kieran has been known to spell his name Ciaran, depending on the day of the week.

I would have all three on the Antrim senior team. Kevin may be the least naturally talented, but he is a brave and gutsy footballer. His performance against Mayobridge a couple of years back was as good a midfield performance as I have seen. Lets himself down with his attitude sometimes, but should be one of the men that Jody Gormley would be building the Antrim team around. A very good goalie also and I think that Sean Boylan could do a lot worse than look at him for the number 1 jersey if the international rules takes place again.

Kieran is less in the limelight because he is the quietest and most laid back. Very skilful, intelligent footballer with a very accurate left foot. Well capable of taking scores from distance or hitting raking passes. Would be an ideal chf. As Shane says, probably the best McGourty so far this year and is benefitting from being the least well-known member of the family.

Conor, a precocious talent, allegedly made his Ulster colleges debut with La Salle while still in P5. More like Kieran in terms of ability and Kevin in terms of attitude. Certainly has the potential to be one of the best footballers of his generation, but must burn every hurl he owns.

Although a source close to the family, reckons the wee girl is the best footballer of the lot.

I would certainly rather have the three male McGourtys than the two Bradleys.

Max, don't ever question any of these boys attitude to St. Gall's. Their family is steeped in the club and winning an All-Ireland would be their main ambition. You certainly won't see any of them transferring to Derrytrasna Sarsfields.

Nor have they ever lifted the mitts to a referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 12, 2007, 10:44:55 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 12, 2007, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
The McGourty question:

Kevin - Talented. Opinionated. Ambitious. Individualistic.
Kieran - Intelligent. Talented. Team Player. Untidy.
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Over-used.

SaffronSam would know more.

Not sure that I do Shane. Three very talented boys in different ways. Kieran would claim to be the most intelligent because he passed the 11 plus, Kevin would disagree because he went to Queen's. Kieran and Conor won Colleges' football All-Stars, but Kevin has the Sigerson medal (admittedly won at about the age of 32). All three have played for Donegal Celtic's first team and have about three Colleges' hurling All-Stars each. Conor is the only one with a middle name (John) and Kieran has been known to spell his name Ciaran, depending on the day of the week.

I would have all three on the Antrim senior team. Kevin may be the least naturally talented, but he is a brave and gutsy footballer. His performance against Mayobridge a couple of years back was as good a midfield performance as I have seen. Lets himself down with his attitude sometimes, but should be one of the men that Jody Gormley would be building the Antrim team around. A very good goalie also and I think that Sean Boylan could do a lot worse than look at him for the number 1 jersey if the international rules takes place again.

Kieran is less in the limelight because he is the quietest and most laid back. Very skilful, intelligent footballer with a very accurate left foot. Well capable of taking scores from distance or hitting raking passes. Would be an ideal chf. As Shane says, probably the best McGourty so far this year and is benefitting from being the least well-known member of the family.

Conor, a precocious talent, allegedly made his Ulster colleges debut with La Salle while still in P5. More like Kieran in terms of ability and Kevin in terms of attitude. Certainly has the potential to be one of the best footballers of his generation, but must burn every hurl he owns.

Although a source close to the family, reckons the wee girl is the best footballer of the lot.

I would certainly rather have the three male McGourtys than the two Bradleys.

Max, don't ever question any of these boys attitude to St. Gall's. Their family is steeped in the club and winning an All-Ireland would be their main ambition. You certainly won't see any of them transferring to Derrytrasna Sarsfields.

Nor have they ever lifted the mitts to a referee.

Hilarious! La Salle debut in P5! haha!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OUR BOY on November 13, 2007, 12:42:13 PM
As an outsider it never ceases to amaze me why so many in Antrim continue to rave on about Kevin mc Grourty but to say Jody Gormley should build a team aroung him is hilarilious. Lets just say i dont think the building built on that foundation would last very long.We are talking here about someone who altough undoubtedly talented is one the most indisciplined players (on and off the field) in the present game. On the pitch he manages to annoy his teammates,the opposition and the referree in virtually every game while off it he has a track record of insulting the co board,management and his so called team "mates". Until Antrim forget about him and his like and start to build a team of talented, strong minded and discilpined individuals they will continue to go no where. I appreciate this is easier said than done and takes time and patience. JodyGormley seems to be going the right way about this. He sent out a strong message last year by dropping Kevin and not asking him back. This long term plan is the way forward for Antrim not by building a team around the afore mentioned individual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2007, 01:15:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2007, 02:13:52 AM
Quote from: SeanSouth on November 11, 2007, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
The McGourty question:

Kevin - Talented. Opinionated. Ambitious. Individualistic.
Kieran - Intelligent. Talented. Team Player. Untidy.
CJ - Brilliant. Natural. Overused.

SaffronSam would know more.

Are you still as friendly with Sean Mc Gourty, O'Neill? Not the most impartial observer are you?
ONeill is as impartial a man as we have in Antrim. Sure he's only an aul blow in who crept silently but dangerously across the lough. He'll be alright as long as he gets a fair amount of eels every month.

The only thing I'd say though ONeill, is regards "CJ - overused". At one time (2 years ago) I would have agreed but now I think he is playing the right amount. When he was playing minor football + hurling for Antrim, U21 football for Antrim (I think he missed the main game though), St. Galls minor football and hurling (they had a serious campaign for the UMFC), U21 for club, senior for club (All Ireland run) and schools football hurling and soccer (Mc Larnon and All Ireland run).
I think he has settled into playing Ryan/Sigerson/McKenna, Club U21, senior. County U21, senior. Still a fair bit but definitely not as hectic as two years ago.

I was part of that team two years ago and there's no doubt that CJ was playing far too much back then. It was the same with Niblock, started playing regular Senior football whilst still an U16. An honest assessment of the three of them from a clubmate and teammate.

Kevin- Ambitious, Dedicated, Immensely strong, mouthy, arrogant

Kieran- Intelligent, quick thinking, spontaneous, mouthy

CJ- Outstanding, nimble, slippery, completely confident in his own ability, deadly accurate, mouthy, arrogant.

The only problem CJ has is that he's still a wee bit small, but then again, look at the Gooch. I have no doubt whatsoever that he has the ability and potential to walk onto any senior inter-county team in the country.

Worth pointing out that all three of them are serious hurlers as well and if were to solely dedicate themselves to the small ball code, would undoubtedly be part of the Antrim setup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 13, 2007, 01:24:39 PM
I guess y have never stood beside the Gooch then, he is not small, he maybe light, but he is about 5ft 11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: OUR BOY on November 13, 2007, 12:42:13 PM
As an outsider it never ceases to amaze me why so many in Antrim continue to rave on about Kevin mc Grourty but to say Jody Gormley should build a team aroung him is hilarilious. Lets just say i dont think the building built on that foundation would last very long.We are talking here about someone who altough undoubtedly talented is one the most indisciplined players (on and off the field) in the present game. On the pitch he manages to annoy his teammates,the opposition and the referree in virtually every game while off it he has a track record of insulting the co board,management and his so called team "mates". Until Antrim forget about him and his like and start to build a team of talented, strong minded and discilpined individuals they will continue to go no where. I appreciate this is easier said than done and takes time and patience. JodyGormley seems to be going the right way about this. He sent out a strong message last year by dropping Kevin and not asking him back. This long term plan is the way forward for Antrim not by building a team around the afore mentioned individual.

Your post would have had some semblance of sense if you hadn't used the words "Jody Gormley", "Antrim" and "long term plan" in the post. Unless it is to say something like "Jody Gormley is using Antrim as part of a long term plan to make Jody Gormley plc an internationally recognised brand".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 13, 2007, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: OUR BOY on November 13, 2007, 12:42:13 PM
As an outsider it never ceases to amaze me why so many in Antrim continue to rave on about Kevin mc Grourty but to say Jody Gormley should build a team aroung him is hilarilious. Lets just say i dont think the building built on that foundation would last very long.We are talking here about someone who altough undoubtedly talented is one the most indisciplined players (on and off the field) in the present game. On the pitch he manages to annoy his teammates,the opposition and the referree in virtually every game while off it he has a track record of insulting the co board,management and his so called team "mates". Until Antrim forget about him and his like and start to build a team of talented, strong minded and discilpined individuals they will continue to go no where. I appreciate this is easier said than done and takes time and patience. JodyGormley seems to be going the right way about this. He sent out a strong message last year by dropping Kevin and not asking him back. This long term plan is the way forward for Antrim not by building a team around the afore mentioned individual.

Your post would have had some semblance of sense if you hadn't used the words "Jody Gormley", "Antrim" and "long term plan" in the post. Unless it is to say something like "Jody Gormley is using Antrim as part of a long term plan to make Jody Gormley plc an internationally recognised brand".

Maybe but don't put the county football team and Kevin Mc Gourty in the same sentence either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 13, 2007, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: OUR BOY on November 13, 2007, 12:42:13 PM
As an outsider it never ceases to amaze me why so many in Antrim continue to rave on about Kevin mc Grourty but to say Jody Gormley should build a team aroung him is hilarilious. Lets just say i dont think the building built on that foundation would last very long.We are talking here about someone who altough undoubtedly talented is one the most indisciplined players (on and off the field) in the present game. On the pitch he manages to annoy his teammates,the opposition and the referree in virtually every game while off it he has a track record of insulting the co board,management and his so called team "mates". Until Antrim forget about him and his like and start to build a team of talented, strong minded and discilpined individuals they will continue to go no where. I appreciate this is easier said than done and takes time and patience. JodyGormley seems to be going the right way about this. He sent out a strong message last year by dropping Kevin and not asking him back. This long term plan is the way forward for Antrim not by building a team around the afore mentioned individual.

Your post would have had some semblance of sense if you hadn't used the words "Jody Gormley", "Antrim" and "long term plan" in the post. Unless it is to say something like "Jody Gormley is using Antrim as part of a long term plan to make Jody Gormley plc an internationally recognised brand".

Maybe but don't put the county football team and Kevin Mc Gourty in the same sentence either.

Surely "Kevin McGourty has the ability to make the Derry county football team." is a perfectly valid sentence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 13, 2007, 02:18:53 PM
On ability without doubt, super player, but, and this is the rub, I'm looking from the outside in, with no agenda, and his committment to Antrim is zero.

Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 02:13:52 PM
Kevin would make the Derry team alright. He should be on the Antrim team but it wouldn't be Antrim unless there was some sort of infighting to feck their chances up.
You're awful cynical about Jody, SS2. That aul Tyrone hatred coming out on you?

Lets not get this story all messed up. Mc Gourty wanted to treated differently from all of the players on the Antrim panel. He did not want to do what all of the other players had to do. He wanted to do what he has generally done with Antrim come into the panel at the end of the league and play in the championship. In my world that is not how it works. Asd I have said before their is no 'me' or 'I' in team sports. Ice skating offers that 'I' syndrome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stalin on November 13, 2007, 02:30:27 PM
I bet 'shawsroad' is creaming his pants at this thread
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 13, 2007, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 02:29:04 PM
That's fair enough about last year, Max. The whole thing was handled in true Antrim style though.
What is worrying is that the same thing is going to happen this year by the looks of it. He should be there. Kevin knows it and Jody knows it.
I just hope that between the two of them they sort it out. To have this nonsense going on for two years is just unbelievable.
Jody as manager should make the first move and ask him to attend training/trials.
Kevin should attend.
Easy to say but I would just like it to be sorted for the benefit of Antrim football.

agreed...and the initial onus is on Jody, but if Jody is happy with the committment of the squad and feels that he knows what he has in terms of committment he may well be prepared not to take a chance on a loose cannon. If it works all would benifit, if it fails Jody is the one who has the most to loose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 13, 2007, 04:11:57 PM
Jody should ask him back. He should ask him back now, while St Galls are training away for something else. Get a commitment from him that he will rejoin the panel in tandem with the rest of the St Galls players and he can slip in without the media circus that might and would occur if he was asked any later...that media circus might very well be created by Kevin McGourty himself.

If he has any sense of cop on he will say yes and then rejoin the panel and give it his all. If he has any shred of gael in him, which he must do, he will realise that this constant attention he gets takes away from the efforts of other.

He is a very good footballer of that there is no doubt but the amount of air time he gets annoys my happiness (me writing posts about him doesn't help).

Do any of the Galls men on here know what drives him? Does he get a kick out of the attention? Does he get a kick out of being universally called mouthy/arrogant?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 13, 2007, 04:42:01 PM
Kieran wouldn't be anywhere near the level of CJ or Kevin in terms of mouthiness, but speaks more than he should all the same. It all comes from the da!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 13, 2007, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: Glensman on November 13, 2007, 04:11:57 PM
Jody should ask him back. He should ask him back now, while St Galls are training away for something else. Get a commitment from him that he will rejoin the panel in tandem with the rest of the St Galls players and he can slip in without the media circus that might and would occur if he was asked any later...that media circus might very well be created by Kevin McGourty himself.

If he has any sense of cop on he will say yes and then rejoin the panel and give it his all. If he has any shred of gael in him, which he must do, he will realise that this constant attention he gets takes away from the efforts of other.

He is a very good footballer of that there is no doubt but the amount of air time he gets annoys my happiness (me writing posts about him doesn't help).

Do any of the Galls men on here know what drives him? Does he get a kick out of the attention? Does he get a kick out of being universally called mouthy/arrogant?

Im not a galls man, nor an antrim one, but Ive known Kevin since we went to queens together. Having seen him in action from getting lunch, to going out at night, to crossing the fecking road, He doesnt do things quietly.
I think he enjoys being the centre of attention. He loves being an arsehole - that said Id be fond enough of him. He can be a thick hoor too though. I cant imagine what frustration some of his potential antrim team mates might feel with his antics at times. Once he crosses that line though, he is a born winner.

Shawsroad - I salute you! :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 13, 2007, 06:02:34 PM
I am not a fan of his because of his attitude but i do recognise that Kevin is def a talented player and i agree if he were from Derry he would be good enough to make the team!

However he has a rotten attitude and his actions last year questioning the ability of the Antrim panel Jody Gormley had drawn up and then deciding he wouldnt join it because as Max said he wanted to "come into the panel at the end of the league and play in the championship."

How arrogant and big headed is that?

What annoys us gaels from outside your county so much is that Antrim and Jody Gormley are trying to progress the state and level of Antrim football and build something, taking the team to the next level.  To do this you need all your top players on board.

Kevin is def one of those. 

However you also need a disciplined group working together and pulling in the one direction. 

Kevin is def not one of those.

Antrim football has been underachieving at intercounty level for to long and for a player of that quality to basically refuse to play for the county is not a nice thing to see when players of far less ability are willing to do whatever it takes to just make the panel of 30.

I also agree that the onus is on jody to invite him back but only in the manner all players will be invited onto the panel or training squads for the upcoming season.  He, like all other players, must give a guarantee of committment for the cause.

Like him or loathe him he has plenty of talent

His county needs him

if he is a true Saffron Gael he will answer the call!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on November 13, 2007, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: OUR BOY on November 13, 2007, 12:42:13 PM
As an outsider it never ceases to amaze me why so many in Antrim continue to rave on about Kevin mc Grourty but to say Jody Gormley should build a team aroung him is hilarilious. Lets just say i dont think the building built on that foundation would last very long.We are talking here about someone who altough undoubtedly talented is one the most indisciplined players (on and off the field) in the present game. On the pitch he manages to annoy his teammates,the opposition and the referree in virtually every game while off it he has a track record of insulting the co board,management and his so called team "mates". Until Antrim forget about him and his like and start to build a team of talented, strong minded and discilpined individuals they will continue to go no where. I appreciate this is easier said than done and takes time and patience. JodyGormley seems to be going the right way about this. He sent out a strong message last year by dropping Kevin and not asking him back. This long term plan is the way forward for Antrim not by building a team around the afore mentioned individual.

couldnt agree more - if he hadnt yapped so much in ai club final and concertrated on playing they might have won
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on November 13, 2007, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 02:09:25 PM

Surely "Kevin McGourty has the ability to make the Derry county football team." is a perfectly valid sentence.

he wouldnt even make the sub bench with his lack of manners - we have enough yappy players of our own thank you ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on November 13, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 02:29:04 PM
He should be there. Kevin knows it and Jody knows it.
I just hope that between the two of them they sort it out. To have this nonsense going on for two years is just unbelievable.

get him laim bradley's tel no and he'll give him advice on how to sort out internals ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
Any team news from the Bog Meadows?

Looks like same team up to midfield, forward line will be 6 from McGourty x 3, O'Neill, Niblock, Gallagher, Stewart & Burns.  Could be Gaga and Burns to miss out. Probably O'Neill, Niblock, Kevin McGourty, Stewarty, Kieran McGourty, CJ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 13, 2007, 10:47:41 PM
Shaws Road is a very good club player alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2007, 08:40:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 02:13:52 PM
Kevin would make the Derry team alright. He should be on the Antrim team but it wouldn't be Antrim unless there was some sort of infighting to feck their chances up.
You're awful cynical about Jody, SS2. That aul Tyrone hatred coming out on you?

Been cynical about young Gormley for years. Ever since his appointment as Antrim senior trainer, at a time when he would have worked with the then Antrim county board chairman (I introduced the word inveigled to the board at that stage), through his subsequent departure to become Down senior trainer, through his appearance along the line as Down under-21s progressed to an All-Ireland final, through him jumping ship when it was becoming increasing clear that Paddy O'Rourke was going to be replaced.

And then there's his record as Antrim manager, a worse league record than even Mickey Culbert managed and a totally inept championship defeat. Reaching the Tommy Murphy Cup final wasn't an achievement; ensuring Antrim didn't qualify for the competition would have been. His inconsistencies in terms of squad selection also rankle.

No Tyrone hatred (on this occasion) - it is possible to make a point objectively without allowing perceived bias to come into it.  Tyrone is a lovely place and the Mountains of Pomeroy is a nice song.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 14, 2007, 11:46:35 AM
Well Men Time to make a few Predictions!!!

Who do Yous think will win the big games at the weekend.

Glenullin V St Galls     Glenullin

Dromore V Cross       Dromore

Newbridge V Dunloy  Newbridge

Im gonna go for Glenullin in the first game. Firstly because i just feel that the more open football St galls play will suit Glenullin as will the open spaces in Omagh, although that may also suit St Galls. I think that they will have to be at their best and be more efficent with their shooting to overcome what is gonna be a formidable challenge but Glenullin seem to have a certain momentum and resilience about them now.  Also im a Derry man and i never said i wasnt biased.

I fany Dromore to beat Cross as they look a realy good side and if Colm Mc cullagh plays they will have 3 very effective outlets for scores up front with the two corner forward looking very good the last day. ive seen Cross a couple of times this year and havent eally been that impressed with them. Although it has to be said they have an uncanny knack of playing just well enough to win the game. Donnaldson will be a huge loss to them, I know they have a strong panel but they dont have someone as strong and as experienced on the bench.

In the intermediates i fancy Newbridge and the reason is they weresimplyt awesom against Whitecross a Div 1 Armagh out fit (although since relegated) and Dermott dougan is putting in some fine performances of both score taking and play making.  its like a blast from the past when he was doing the same for Derry in the No. 11.  However i have to admit i havent seen Dunloy in any shape or form. How do you Saffron boys rate Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 14, 2007, 03:02:58 PM
Do we have to go through the threads author to change the title to "Club Energise - Mc Gourty Thread" ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OUR BOY on November 14, 2007, 03:14:44 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2007, 08:40:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 02:13:52 PM
Kevin would make the Derry team alright. He should be on the Antrim team but it wouldn't be Antrim unless there was some sort of infighting to feck their chances up.
You're awful cynical about Jody, SS2. That aul Tyrone hatred coming out on you?

Been cynical about young Gormley for years. Ever since his appointment as Antrim senior trainer, at a time when he would have worked with the then Antrim county board chairman (I introduced the word inveigled to the board at that stage), through his subsequent departure to become Down senior trainer, through his appearance along the line as Down under-21s progressed to an All-Ireland final, through him jumping ship when it was becoming increasing clear that Paddy O'Rourke was going to be replaced.

And then there's his record as Antrim manager, a worse league record than even Mickey Culbert managed and a totally inept championship defeat. Reaching the Tommy Murphy Cup final wasn't an achievement; ensuring Antrim didn't qualify for the competition would have been. His inconsistencies in terms of squad selection also rankle.

No Tyrone hatred (on this occasion) - it is possible to make a point objectively without allowing perceived bias to come into it.  Tyrone is a lovely place and the Mountains of Pomeroy is a nice song.
SS2 on one thread you talk about not mentioning Jody,Antrim and long term planning in same sentence and now your ridiculing him for his first years results.What do you expect- should he have a magic wand. I  would say he has made the first big step by laying the law down the law to Kevin and sticking to his principles (is it a coincidence that this panel stuck together for the full year and there was no dirty linen being washed in public unlike previous years). Generally players are'nt stupid and will see what they can get away with and Jody stood up to this test. If he was only interested in the short term he would have fielded his 15 most talented players however Antrim would have been no further forward. I can only imagine there is a sizeable number of the panel delighted that at long last someone decided that Kevin wasn't the boss and players will throw their weight behind a manager who is big enough to do this.
PS dont deny the Tyrone hatred - you should be proud of it ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 14, 2007, 04:29:11 PM
very diffiicult to leave aidso out but a great sub to bring on, burnsy has been hauled off lately and this could be his last campaign, three mc gourty's on the one team!!!!!!!!!! they'll not pass the ball to anybody else.

i'm sure Duffin and his right hand man have done their work on this Derry team. the team has been well drilled over the years and no matter who has come in the stlye of play has been the same, hard work.

i hope our posters here will be making their way down to Omagh this sunday. another Ulster final could be on it's way here for an Antrim team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 15, 2007, 12:31:57 PM
was hoping to take in the St Galls match myself but with our boys being out at Casement i'll have to give it a miss.  With the early throw in i might even make it home in time to watch the second half of the Birr/Ballyhale match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2007, 02:03:46 PM
Any word of the Galls team for Sunday??

CJ McGourty fit and available??

Aidso Gallagher might not make the team - interesting as he is on the county team a lot!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 15, 2007, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2007, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2007, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
Any team news from the Bog Meadows?

Looks like same team up to midfield, forward line will be 6 from McGourty x 3, O'Neill, Niblock, Gallagher, Stewart & Burns.  Could be Gaga and Burns to miss out. Probably O'Neill, Niblock, Kevin McGourty, Stewarty, Kieran McGourty, CJ.
I would trust SS2. He seems to be the man in the know.

Team not finalised allegedly, but most likely will be the six forwards I mentioned. Might even play Kelly on Paddy B, and McLean at centre half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 02:21:33 PM
SS2, would it not be rough on Aidso if he misses out? May not be the most skilful but his workrate is immense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 15, 2007, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 15, 2007, 02:21:33 PM
SS2, would it not be rough on Aidso if he misses out? May not be the most skilful but his workrate is immense.

On the Ulster Club thread, I said that I felt St. Gall's would be making a mistake not starting Gallagher.  Your description is perfect and I think he is an ideal man to start against Glenullin. I would find a place either at wing half forward or midfield for him, instead of O'Neill or Stewart.  Or even at half back with Healy going to the corner.

Of course there is still every chance that Gaga will start. This is just my reading of the situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 16, 2007, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 16, 2007, 02:46:16 PM
Has the team been finalised yet, Sam?
I would also like to take this opportunity to wish both Naomh Gall and Dun Lathai the best of luck on Sunday.

My source, Butterknife, tells me it will be announced at training tonight. Won't see him again until Monday, so you will probably have to rely on another source.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2007, 05:13:53 PM
training in jordanstown tonight, so the dog may get in the car
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2007, 05:16:05 PM
Best of luck to St Galls on Sunday. Do Antrim proud. I think you can do it but it will no doubt be difficult.

Best of luck to Dunloy as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:33:25 AM
No word on the team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:34:22 AM
What time is the Dunloy game on at?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:35:05 AM
Will the Gall's game still be on after all that rain??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:37:44 AM
My money is stayin in my pocket as the game is too tight to call-

think Galls are better allround but you just never know at this level, one slip, error

or  a dodgy refereeing decision and its goodnight Irene--like Scotland earlier on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:38:09 AM
who is the ref anyway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:38:35 AM
and where is the ref from??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:40:21 AM
should be a cracking game--how much is it in??












i might drive if im up 2 it!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:41:19 AM
were the remaining Div 2 games played 2day?

who has to play in the Div 2/3 play-off??

Sars or Davitts??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:42:12 AM
Heard about young Sean O'Neill of Davitts and the blood clot

hope he makes a full recovery
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:43:18 AM
Has the new Senior Football squad for 2008 been announce??

any additions to panel??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:44:17 AM
and by the way ..best of luck to St Galls tomorow--do Antrim proud!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:44:50 AM
and Dunloy too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 18, 2007, 02:15:45 PM
have you lost the plot Gold?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on November 18, 2007, 03:46:42 PM
Dunloy bt Newbridge 2-8 to 0-8 - is that not a turn up for the books?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
i couldnt believe it--when will they ever get to play their remaining Div 1 games plus an all-ireland hurling semi -final and Ulster Intermediate final!

Hope  they stay up and Lamh Dhearg go down

Hope the Senior and Intermediate finals are a double header--at Casement!!

Good to see Antrim teams slapping them Derry wans to the side hi sir--dicks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on November 18, 2007, 04:26:52 PM
Do you have a report from the game Gold ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 18, 2007, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: orangeman on November 18, 2007, 04:26:52 PM
Do you have a report from the game Gold ?

No i dont, pleasently surprised with Dunloy's win though

Gall's v Cross game may be awesome!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glenullinabu on November 18, 2007, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 18, 2007, 07:44:44 PM
Brilliant results today.
Especially for Dunloy. I didn't see that coming, sorry. :-[
Well done to Naomh Gall and Dun Lathai.
Did St.Galls play as stated in the programme?

no the d&%kh$*d mcgourty started
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glenullinabu on November 18, 2007, 09:36:00 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 18, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
Good to see Antrim teams slapping them Derry wans to the side hi sir--dicks

fair play to st galls & dunloy
and as for you - gold is overrated - platinum is more valuable anyway

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: southderry on November 18, 2007, 10:17:29 PM
Cannot believe that only 3 of that St Galls team played against us in the 1st round of the Senior championship this year, namely, Aodhan Gallagher, Kevin Niblock and CJ McGourty. They had two subs Chris Kerr and Colin Brady. I think Sean Kelly joined the panel later on due to him studying in England. I would go as far as saying that they would beat the Senior Antrim team . Why wont they play for Antrim. Gormley should do everything in his power to get kevin McGourty playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 19, 2007, 10:10:05 AM
Went up to the Dunloy game yesterday. Have to say I had followed what had been said on here and elsewhere and had thought Dunloy were heavy underdogs and this might have been a step too far. I think perhaps some of the talk got to Dunloy themselves and Newbridge came out and were 3 points up pretty sharpish. Dunloy looked panicky and hit a couple of very easy point chances into the keepers hands.

However, after their first score this settled Dunloy they grew in confidence and from there fully deserved the win in my opinion.
Some great forward play from Dunloy - a few very dangerous, intelligent forwards in there. Good balance in the team as well.

Any word on when this match will be on - before the Ulster final next week in Newry?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 19, 2007, 12:53:33 PM
Would like to congratulate dunloy and st galls on their results yesterday.

wasnt surprised by dunloys result at all, they are a very good young team, with some excellent forwards who i believe should be on the county panel.

as for the galls, i was at the match yest and thought they thoroughly deserved their victory although it should have been more convincing. thought sean kelly was immense and kevin mcgourty's use of the ball was brilliant.
though kevin being kevin got booked at the end of the second half for givin the ref verbals about burke bein sent off and then with about five or ten minutes to go, glenullin got a free out kevin lashed the ball for all he was worth over the roof of the stand to waste time. lucky for him the ref didnt see him do it. such a talent but things like that people remember him for.

i for one will be in newry next sunday supporting the galls.

dunloys match is at clones after the junior final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on November 19, 2007, 12:57:19 PM
Culchy - how did yous get on this season with the Moortown man at the helm? (His name escapes me at the moment he was Quinn)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 19, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on November 19, 2007, 12:57:19 PM
Culchy - how did yous get on this season with the Moortown man at the helm? (His name escapes me at the moment he was Quinn)


we done not so bad l'shore lad. aye it was enda quinn from the moortown.
finished up second in div2 on points difference, 6 points to be exact.
we are now waiting on a playoff with second bottom of div 1 to see if we go up or not.
but dunloy are bottom at the min with 5 games left, so their involvement in ulster has held this up.
it will probably be lamh dhearg or moneyglass we play as dunloy will get enuf pts to get them safe.

enda has actually quit as our manager a couple of days after our last match he phoned up to say he couldnt do it anymore because of work committments, a job he had been doing since jan, seems a bit strange with one game to go that hes quit,
but its up to himself, not the best way to leave a club.
maybe hes been offered the moortown job! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2007, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 19, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on November 19, 2007, 12:57:19 PM
Culchy - how did yous get on this season with the Moortown man at the helm? (His name escapes me at the moment he was Quinn)


we done not so bad l'shore lad. aye it was enda quinn from the moortown.
finished up second in div2 on points difference, 6 points to be exact.
we are now waiting on a playoff with second bottom of div 1 to see if we go up or not.
but dunloy are bottom at the min with 5 games left, so their involvement in ulster has held this up.
it will probably be lamh dhearg or moneyglass we play as dunloy will get enuf pts to get them safe.

enda has actually quit as our manager a couple of days after our last match he phoned up to say he couldnt do it anymore because of work committments, a job he had been doing since jan, seems a bit strange with one game to go that hes quit,
but its up to himself, not the best way to leave a club.
maybe hes been offered the moortown job! ;)

Would youse not have done as well as youse have done Culchy without having to pay a manager? Surely there are leaders in Rasharkin prepared to look after their own? Same goes to Creggan and Tir na Og and any others forking out large amounts for outside managers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 19, 2007, 02:06:27 PM
we will never that now skull, there are good managers in the club, its just most of them have either been there done it before or
they dont want to try it just yet.

we have spent far too much on managers in the past without anything to show for it, but if no one else is willing do it within the club then you have to go down that route.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on November 19, 2007, 02:38:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 19, 2007, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 19, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on November 19, 2007, 12:57:19 PM
Culchy - how did yous get on this season with the Moortown man at the helm? (His name escapes me at the moment he was Quinn)


we done not so bad l'shore lad. aye it was enda quinn from the moortown.
finished up second in div2 on points difference, 6 points to be exact.
we are now waiting on a playoff with second bottom of div 1 to see if we go up or not.
but dunloy are bottom at the min with 5 games left, so their involvement in ulster has held this up.
it will probably be lamh dhearg or moneyglass we play as dunloy will get enuf pts to get them safe.

enda has actually quit as our manager a couple of days after our last match he phoned up to say he couldnt do it anymore because of work committments, a job he had been doing since jan, seems a bit strange with one game to go that hes quit,
but its up to himself, not the best way to leave a club.
maybe hes been offered the moortown job! ;)

Would youse not have done as well as youse have done Culchy without having to pay a manager? Surely there are leaders in Rasharkin prepared to look after their own? Same goes to Creggan and Tir na Og and any others forking out large amounts for outside managers.

Regarding Creggan, we have always have local management right up to HMcG, but it is hard to argue that outside managers didn't work with Creggan, as both hMcG and MM have brought us up to Div 1 and kept us there. It has a lot to do with the local lads not listening to local management, but respect outsiders.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2007, 02:52:59 PM
So money well spent then CSC.... never mind the ethics? I'm sure if youse introduced a player bonus scheme, it might get youse more success.  :(

Success at any cost eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2007, 04:32:51 PM
Skull have you ever considered that maybe some clubs don't have someone either willing or capable to take their own club team and if the club is ambitiousand don't have someone capable from within then they need to look further afield than their own parish?

Also consider the two words willing and capable in there. Some clubs have plenty capable who won't be willing and some have plenty willing who won't be capable.

The ethos of the GAA being voluntary is great etc and maybe that's well and good in Dunloy where you have the ability / numbers willing to coach but life ain't like that everywhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2007, 05:50:11 PM
I have considered it itg. I don't know how a club can call itself ambitious if it doesn't have the people within it's club membership to take on these roles. Paying for success says more about the affluence in the area rather than the ambition of the club.
If you have ever heard of succession planning then you would know that it is the clubs responsibility to ensure that people within its membership develop the capabilities and know how to take roles like senior management on and ensure that replacements are groomed down the line.

"The ethos of the GAA being voluntary is great etc and maybe that's well and good in Dunloy where you have the ability / numbers willing to coach but life ain't like that everywhere."

How can you call yourself a GAA man when you come out with a line like that!!! We have plenty of coaches who take on coaching roles who have plenty to learn and are far from the finished article, but as a club we make sure that they come from within the membership. It is our club after all.
I cannot believe you hold such little regard for the volunteer ethos.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 19, 2007, 06:36:22 PM
Terrific result for the footballers, unfortunately i couldn't get to Casement yesterday but i have to say Dunloy have been playing brilliant football for the last few months, going back to when they comprehensively beat Ballymena in the Championship they haven't looked back.

Too beat both Kinawley and Newbridge without perhaps our best player (Parrott) is quite an achievement

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2007, 06:39:24 PM
Maybe I didn't convey that volunteer part well...

I have coached underage teams, have helped out regularly at very young underage coaching sessions, done certificates, trained my b******s off etc so the volunteer thing I respect and value. I also would never ask my club for travelling expenses when many others did.

However...

Not every club has a person who is suitable to do their job - that is my point. What defines suitable? Well suitable to me should be a person who has one of the following a) experience - whether that be through coaching underage or having previously done the job b) an ex-player who holds the respect of the players.

I know that I come from a small club and I can tell you we have one, and one person only, from our area willing to manage our senior team. So what is the best course of action - just let him do it because he's from our club and it would honour the volunteer ethos or set out our stall as deciding we want to be here and he can't take us there?

Now maybe we're an exception and Dunloy is thriving with up and coming coaches but my point stands as you need two things - willingness and ability. If you are an ambitious club - ambitious meaning you can be one who wants to go places but needs help to do this - then I don't see a problem with outsiders.

In a perfect world everyone in your club will be a volunteer, you'll have a surplus of people willing to do things and you'll have structures whereby coaches learn from the ground up and you always have a conveyor belt of people willing and able to manage. Not every club has that luxury - particularly smaller ones.

I know you have a bee in your bonnet about this and in principle your point is valid. However in practice it ain't always like that. If every club that had an outside manager turned down willing ,and able, volunteers from their own club then your point would be completely valid. Can you tell me this is the case?

That's my opinion - you're entitled to yours but ,in my opinion,circumstance dictates that everything ain't as black and white as you may think.

P.S. Well done to St Galls/Dunloy. Hope you both go on to lift your respective trophies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on November 19, 2007, 09:03:14 PM
I have to agree with tommygunn, we would be classed as a small club and have had 3 different managers in the last 15 years. When one gets fed up the other steps in but there is only so many ways to say the same things over and over again. We just dont have enough suitable candidates to manage our senior hurling team so at some stage will have to go outside the club and pay someone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2007, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 19, 2007, 09:03:14 PM
I have to agree with tommygunn, we would be classed as a small club and have had 3 different managers in the last 15 years. When one gets fed up the other steps in but there is only so many ways to say the same things over and over again. We just dont have enough suitable candidates to manage our senior hurling team so at some stage will have to go outside the club and pay someone.

Maybe if youse started developing a coaching structure youse mightn't be in that position? There are other solutions other than paying an outside man. The only difference is that it doesn't happen overnight.

And it's not as if we have huge numbers of candidates queuing up to take our Senior teams btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2007, 10:40:08 PM
We now have people in place for underage etc who are improving the situation. However you need the resources to make thse structures work.

I can only use my club as an example as it is the only one I know the internals of. There are plenty more like it though.

You don't have people queuing up - you're hardly begging for people though and you seem to have some young blood too as - if I'm right - is Ernie not part of your football management set-up?

Anyway no point going round in circles - circumstances can sometimes dictate it's best to get an outside manager. Now some of these managers are mercenaries no doubt but that's another issue.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2007, 05:20:09 PM
I see reading on hogan stand that the Cavan champions Dunloy play on Sunday have two county boys, a boy who won ulster with cavan in 97 and they won division 1 in cavan last year beating county champions, I think, on the way.

Sounds like not going to be an easy game for Dunloy. Anyone who can beat the Tyrone champions would usually be worth their salt.

Still hopefully they can raise their game and do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on November 22, 2007, 01:03:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 19, 2007, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: Balboa on November 19, 2007, 09:03:14 PM
I have to agree with tommygunn, we would be classed as a small club and have had 3 different managers in the last 15 years. When one gets fed up the other steps in but there is only so many ways to say the same things over and over again. We just dont have enough suitable candidates to manage our senior hurling team so at some stage will have to go outside the club and pay someone.

Maybe if youse started developing a coaching structure youse mightn't be in that position? There are other solutions other than paying an outside man. The only difference is that it doesn't happen overnight.

And it's not as if we have huge numbers of candidates queuing up to take our Senior teams btw

Regarding Creggan and coaching structures for coaches, we have that in place. We have 3 coaches with every underage team, with a level 1 with most teams, and we are starting to see the benefits.
However, with the seniors, we had to break a Div 2 mentality within the senior players and we brought in HMcG to do that, and he was very successful in developing a new ethos within the club. Honestly, no local manager would have been able to do it so the club was right in bringing in an outsider; a decision that was made wasn't an easy and one that wasn't fully accepted around the area. Regarding MM, everybody puts an emphasis on the Creggan chequebook and less on 1- The  McAteer connection, 2- Taking on a small club, little pressure and exposure after the Mayo debacle.

Give the club credit, both men that we have brought in to manage the clubs are not mer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 22, 2007, 09:23:07 AM
QuoteI see reading on hogan stand that the Cavan champions Dunloy play on Sunday have two county boys, a boy who won ulster with cavan in 97 and they won division 1 in cavan last year beating county champions, I think, on the way.

Sounds like not going to be an easy game for Dunloy. Anyone who can beat the Tyrone champions would usually be worth their salt.

Still hopefully they can raise their game and do it.

They didn't beat the Tyrone champions, and this years Tyrone Intermediate Champions were Killyman, a side that are no means the best in Intermediate football in Tyrone - they were bottom of the league and if they had lost the Championship final they would have been relegated to Junior football.

I hope Dunloy win it, especially after some of yer mans comments on Hogan Stand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CiKe on November 22, 2007, 07:45:55 PM
lads is there a radio station i can get the Galls game on over the internet on Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lorcs on November 22, 2007, 11:30:24 PM
I'd be interested in listening in to the St. Gall's game from Madrid as well...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CiKe on November 24, 2007, 09:35:55 AM
feck it, booked flights yesterday, off today and took monday off work. Come on the Galls! Liine up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 24, 2007, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: CiKe on November 24, 2007, 09:35:55 AM
Liine up?

Cabbage is in goals as Ronnie G got injured in training

Philly Bish is starting top of the left to unsettle the cross backs with his power
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on November 25, 2007, 06:08:16 PM
howd the dunloy game go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2007, 06:58:06 PM
Hammered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on November 25, 2007, 08:46:07 PM
Elaborate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2007, 09:19:23 PM
The last I heard twas 2-9 to 2-2 to the Cavan outfit with time running out. Dunloy scored a goal with their first kick and their second late on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 26, 2007, 10:05:50 AM
Dunloy were well beaten in the end by a slick Ballinagh team

We had got off to the perfect start when Rev goaled in the opening minutes and for a brief period we exerted some dominance without adding any scores.  Then the Cavan outfit took over, and although the goals we conceded came from errors Ballinagh deservedly took in an 8 point lead at the interval.

The second half was much more competitive with Benny Marron shoring up the half back line somewhat and the introduction of Lanky at full forward gave us a ball winning threat around the square, but we just exert dominance for any real length of time and the No15, & 11 and 14 always looked a threat.

To be fair to the Dunloy lads it was always going to be a hard task to beat an accomplished team that have won the Cavan div1 title but whatever chance they had was probaly lost with the injuries to key players, JJ McFerran has been a main source of goals but played with a broken finger and couldn't make the ball stick, Paudie Shivers got injured early on and though soldiered away had to eventually be replaced, David Birt had looked like the half forward most likely to win kick outs but had to be replaced early on with what looked like a dislocated shoulder.

But no gripes, the best team won.  Still an excellent achievement for the club to be competitive in 2 ulster finals in 2 codes and the management deserve credit for getting there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 12:23:31 AM
So, it's Dunloy v St John's tomorrow night, followed by Lamh Dhearg v Dunloy on Sunday. Dunloy's exertions in the Ulster Championship will leave them mightily sharp and I can see he Johnnies being humbled before the Red Hands from Hannahstown are sent tumbling into the second tier. It has been all downhill since Lamh Dhearg's title winning season in the 90s and specifically since Buchanan retired.

A word of warning to Dunloy though. The same man has been looking mean and lean of late - don't be surprised to see a few of the class of '92 lining out on Sunday. I wonder will this be Cunningham's farewell gift/emotional swansong before moving closer to the graveyard on the Falls' Rd? Surely Cunningham won't want to be plying his trade in Div2 against the likes of a Mickey Rea-less Glenavy.

It appears that Lamh Dhearg's demise has been their defence, having conceded 280 points, more than any other side in the top two divisions. In fact only one side in Division 3 has conceded more - Lamh Dhearg 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 29, 2007, 09:43:02 AM
So O'Neill do you agree with players moving on a whim? Especially when they are relegated. There have been better player than Cunningham have played 2nd tier, in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 10:46:43 AM
Quote from: SeanSouth on November 29, 2007, 09:43:02 AM
So O'Neill do you agree with players moving on a whim?

I'd doubt very much it will be a whim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2007, 12:00:55 PM
Maybe for a new car/house then?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 29, 2007, 12:06:58 PM
Dunloy  V St. Johns             Dunloy 29/11/2007 19:30 Paddy Quinn  
Cargin   VDunloy                 Cargin 01/12/2007 14:00 Brendan Toland  
Lamh Dhearg  V  Dunloy       Lamh Dhearg 02/12/2007 14:00 Gregory Walsh  


3 games in four days  after a very long season - fair play to them

Is Buchanan taking LD next year?
I heard a certain St.Johns man, O'Prey with the help of Mickey Boyle was taking over to bring them back up to div 1 football!

As for Cunningham, it would not surprise me but would he make the St Galls team?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 29, 2007, 03:54:44 PM
Probaly a brave decision to go with the 3 games in four days, but hopefully the lads can get the 2 results this weekend to get themselves out of relegation trouble. If Dunloy can pick up points against either St Johns tonight or Cargin on Saturday then it will make Sundays game with Lamh Dearg a real crunch game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 29, 2007, 04:07:39 PM
well Max i hope our seniors put out the same team they put out for Lamhs the day half of them went off to Castlewellan to play sevens. would only be fair. may even get a run out  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 29, 2007, 04:14:44 PM
hopefully we pick up 4 points this weekend and don't need to play youse, or we could play a half hurling and a half football to red up our last remaining hurling game as well.

sounds good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 29, 2007, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 12:23:31 AM
So, it's Dunloy v St John's tomorrow night, followed by Lamh Dhearg v Dunloy on Sunday. Dunloy's exertions in the Ulster Championship will leave them mightily sharp and I can see he Johnnies being humbled before the Red Hands from Hannahstown are sent tumbling into the second tier. It has been all downhill since Lamh Dhearg's title winning season in the 90s and specifically since Buchanan retired.

A word of warning to Dunloy though. The same man has been looking mean and lean of late - don't be surprised to see a few of the class of '92 lining out on Sunday. I wonder will this be Cunningham's farewell gift/emotional swansong before moving closer to the graveyard on the Falls' Rd? Surely Cunningham won't want to be plying his trade in Div2 against the likes of a Mickey Rea-less Glenavy.

It appears that Lamh Dhearg's demise has been their defence, having conceded 280 points, more than any other side in the top two divisions. In fact only one side in Division 3 has conceded more - Lamh Dhearg 2.

Is Rea not playing for Glenavey next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 08:04:35 PM
That's the word.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 09:05:53 PM
To the top of a Hill I'm told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 29, 2007, 09:28:11 PM
Unlikely to be the Dearg - why move from one mediocre Intermediate outfit to another?

The last transfers between Glenavy and the Hannahstown men were neither successful, irreversible nor without controversy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 09:55:51 PM
Any word on St John's/LD?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 29, 2007, 09:57:45 PM
If there is any truth in this the transfer should not be allowed to go through. The Antrim league is turning into an even bigger joke than it already is, players looking to transfer all the time. Mickey Rae seems to have came to Glenavey and got himself established and now hes looking to jump ship and join a 'bigger' club.  There was talk he would do this way back at the start when he first joined them. When did u hear this O'Neill?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 09:59:22 PM
I didn't. I made it up. I've been doing that since my teens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 29, 2007, 10:03:05 PM
Good man O'Neill

Dunloy  2-11 0-3 St. Johns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2007, 10:03:05 PM

Dunloy  2-11 0-3 St. Johns

The stage is now set for a Hannahstown showdown. A Lamh Dhearg legend told me this week Dunloy would hammer St John's. I can see thousands making their way up the hill on Sunday. Good job they got the gates done. How much will it be in? Do they need a piper?

Prediction

Lamh Dhearg 0-11 Dunloy 1-10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 29, 2007, 10:15:28 PM
How f**king cold will it be up the hill at this time of the year, you need a summer dufflecoat and a winter dufflecoat to watch matches in Hannahstown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2007, 10:31:14 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on November 29, 2007, 10:15:28 PM
How f**king cold will it be up the hill at this time of the year, you need a summer dufflecoat and a winter dufflecoat to watch matches in Hannahstown.

It'll be red-hot, don't kid yourself.

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4863435378
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 29, 2007, 11:19:02 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on November 29, 2007, 10:15:28 PM
How f**king cold will it be up the hill at this time of the year, you need a summer dufflecoat and a winter dufflecoat to watch matches in Hannahstown.

it's b fuckin freezin--hailstones the size of bricks will take a few players(hopefully LD ones) and spectators out by the root
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 30, 2007, 12:34:08 PM
O'Neill you've too much time on your hands!

listen out for the "Dawgs" (dogs)

"Yes Dawg"
"Here Dawg"

Woof Woof!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2007, 02:48:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2007, 12:48:43 PM
I see they have hurling in Balmoral High School.
Jaysus!

That's only so that when it closes down soon and the pupils are dispatched to CBS, La Salle or St. Genevieve's, they will not look out of place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 30, 2007, 02:50:24 PM
Maybe they will, i think La Salle were unable to fulfill some Mageean fixtures this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2007, 08:10:58 PM
Not sure if I have this scenario right, but here goes.

If Dunloy beat Cargin tomorrow they are safe. Then in turn, if LD beat Dunloy, they will move into the play-off position and Moneyglass would be relegated.

Which would be nice.

Unfortunate for the Ergnat's, but still nice.  You could effectively say that the fate of Moneyglass is in the hands of their near and dear nieghbours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2007, 09:34:24 PM
I think Dunloy are a sure thing. I even overheard a LD great using the words 'stitched-up'. It's a cold dark place, thon division 2 in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 01, 2007, 10:44:22 AM
who won the Bergerac Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2007, 11:08:58 AM
3 hours before throw-in and the ground is allegedly* packed already. Saw Bukes out running yesterday. You never know.

*May have been a dream.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2007, 05:16:53 PM
I'm told the Hannahstown heroes blitzed Dunloy out of the hill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2007, 09:51:15 PM
So Dunloy remain bottom.

Can't find the remaining fixtures but I think these are what remain:

St Galls v Dunloy
Dunloy v St Pauls
Cargin v St Pauls(which doesn't matter)

Dunloy will never beat St Galls but St Pauls are awful travellers at the best of times never mind this time of year so would expect Dunloy to beat them.

That would leave it to score difference,between Dunloy and Lamh Dhearg, to see who plays Rasharkin and Moneyglass to go automatically.(Assuming my predictions are right...)

In terms of points difference Dunloy could be scuppered so Dunloy - Rasharkin league play-off and Rasharkin to win with Moneyglass to go down automatically.

All predictions of course...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on December 03, 2007, 11:19:29 AM
it would seem that we've been relegated.  Certainly according to the Antrim website no more games are to be played in Division 1 and Moneyglass will play Rasharkin in the play off.

bitterly disapointing to lose div1 status this way,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2007, 07:16:38 PM
It is claimed on the antrim web-site that dunloy were told they would be allowed four more games and were given the choice of games to play. I don't understand if they were given the choice why they wouldn't play st pauls and would instead play cargin away.. Disappointing to see them go down and disappointing to see that there will be one less south west team in division 1 next year no matter what.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2007, 08:31:40 AM
i'm sure they will at least make the play offs next year if not come straight up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 04, 2007, 09:17:27 AM
I hear that St Pauls refused to play the game so Dunloy had no option but to take on Cargin to try and gain the neccessary points.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on December 04, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
i heard the very seem thing, it seems dunloy seem to get quite harshl treated by CCC in football related matters.  with this coming after the Minors weren't given there chance at an County Final last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 04, 2007, 11:08:07 AM
Glad that LD stayed up - would have been a big blow to the west to lose Rossa and LD in consecutive years.  Paddy Cunningham was outstanding I believe, but has had to visit the hospital in the aftermath of the game. Perhaps maxpower can explain why.

Disappointed that it was Moneyglass and not Dunloy who stayed up.  I can't see how St. Paul's can refuse to play a game without forfeiting the points.

Quote from: maxpower on December 04, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
i heard the very seem thing, it seems dunloy seem to get quite harshl treated by CCC in football related matters.  with this coming after the Minors weren't given there chance at an County Final last year

Your minors were indeed given the chance to play in the county final last year, they chose not to take it and tried to unilaterally rearrange the fixture instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on December 04, 2007, 02:48:34 PM
Hey guys, im a regular visitor to the site so thought i might aswell join up and air my views

I now heard that we are to play our remaining 2 games in the league after it earlier being thought we werent allowed to.Anyone else heard anything on this? although i feel this isnt fair on the other teams having to wait its only right we get to play our games, any number of scenarios can come out of this now but hopefully we can at least make the playoff. i know for a fact that st pauls refused to travel to play us so now that there being made to its a different matter, if they dont come we will get the points im sure. most likely thing i think will happen is that it will come down to us and lamh dhearg to see who plays in the playoff(more than likely us), either way not good news for moneyglass


p.s i dont genuinely believe anyone who knew all the facts with regards to the minor final last year would believe we werent hard done by but thats done and dusted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 04, 2007, 06:34:59 PM
It's in the Irish News today and on BBC sport all day. Good news for Antrim... I think anyway.
Sensible quotes in the paper from Gormley, hope it works out this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 04, 2007, 09:08:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2007, 06:30:54 PM
Kevin McGourty back in the Antrim panel...............according to Adrian Logan.

Aye i saw that in several media outlets, i really thought it would have been low key and he would just join the panel with the minimum of fuss......... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 05, 2007, 10:30:46 AM
nothing to do with the grants i hope :P

do dual players get paid twice?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on December 05, 2007, 10:39:56 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 04, 2007, 11:08:07 AM
Glad that LD stayed up - would have been a big blow to the west to lose Rossa and LD in consecutive years.  Paddy Cunningham was outstanding I believe, but has had to visit the hospital in the aftermath of the game. Perhaps maxpower can explain why.
Disappointed that it was Moneyglass and not Dunloy who stayed up.  I can't see how St. Paul's can refuse to play a game without forfeiting the points.

Quote from: maxpower on December 04, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
i heard the very seem thing, it seems dunloy seem to get quite harshl treated by CCC in football related matters.  with this coming after the Minors weren't given there chance at an County Final last year

Your minors were indeed given the chance to play in the county final last year, they chose not to take it and tried to unilaterally rearrange the fixture instead.

I don't know what that is trying to imply buti wasn't even at the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 05, 2007, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: maxpower on December 05, 2007, 10:39:56 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 04, 2007, 11:08:07 AM
Glad that LD stayed up - would have been a big blow to the west to lose Rossa and LD in consecutive years.  Paddy Cunningham was outstanding I believe, but has had to visit the hospital in the aftermath of the game. Perhaps maxpower can explain why.
Disappointed that it was Moneyglass and not Dunloy who stayed up.  I can't see how St. Paul's can refuse to play a game without forfeiting the points.

Quote from: maxpower on December 04, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
i heard the very seem thing, it seems dunloy seem to get quite harshl treated by CCC in football related matters.  with this coming after the Minors weren't given there chance at an County Final last year

Your minors were indeed given the chance to play in the county final last year, they chose not to take it and tried to unilaterally rearrange the fixture instead.

I don't know what that is trying to imply buti wasn't even at the game

Not trying to imply anything. I heard that Cunningham was taken out and thought that as a Dunloy man you might have been in a better position to comment on what happened. I am now told that the 'tackle' may not have been responsible for the hospitalisation.

There are other more pressing worries here that I am not going to discuss on  a public forum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on December 05, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
I was at the game on Sunday, cant say i seen anything happening to Cunningham,wouldnt really be in our team to deploy such harsh tactics to be honest, were a young team. thought he was excellent. as for the other thing its possible i know what your talking about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 05, 2007, 02:13:42 PM
Think everyone on this board has a fair idea!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2007, 11:20:40 PM
Good luck and best wishes to Paddy Cunningham on his recuperation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 06, 2007, 09:22:48 AM
Anyone care to expand on what happened to Paddy Cunningham?
There was an insinuation something happened involving Dunloy but then that appears to have fallen away.

If he's injured I wish him all the best. A great forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on December 06, 2007, 03:16:53 PM
Cunningham got a knock in the stomach which caused damage resulting in him having appendix removed the following day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2007, 07:40:01 PM
I heard the oul boy McGourty was standing at the bedside with a contract in his hand and yer man Paddy pumped full of drugs.

Dirty move.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Bill on December 06, 2007, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2007, 07:40:01 PM
I heard the oul boy McGourty was standing at the bedside with a contract in his hand and yer man Paddy pumped full of drugs.

Dirty move.
What happened?  heard paddy got a bad blow and that but never heard bout what u are trying to say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 06, 2007, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2007, 07:40:01 PM
I heard the oul boy McGourty was standing at the bedside with a contract in his hand and yer man Paddy pumped full of drugs.

Dirty move.

Heard that too.  He (McGourty) was also spotted fluffing up Paddy's pillows and reading snippets from "The Gambler" by Oisin McConville. His attempts to feed young Cunningham with a packet of Jammie Dodgers (best before date Aug. 2007) were thwarted by a vigilant nurse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Bill on December 06, 2007, 09:39:42 PM
Are st galls lookin paddy cunningham?  Havent caught on yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 09, 2007, 11:17:04 AM
will someone going to that Div 1/2 playoff post a report after for me

i cant make it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on December 10, 2007, 03:05:32 PM
http://www.ofonebelief.org/

Get registered boys its our chance to show the prima donnas what we think and to stop the central council going over our heads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 11, 2007, 05:16:42 PM

what are number like at county training?
I see the u21's are up and running again, training with the seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 11, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
any1 know why the Rasharkin/ Moneyglass game wasnt played??

are Dunloy gettin a chance to play thier remaining fixtures or did the game fall foul of the weather??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 12, 2007, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 11, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
any1 know why the Rasharkin/ Moneyglass game wasnt played??

are Dunloy gettin a chance to play thier remaining fixtures or did the game fall foul of the weather??

playoff was cancelled due to the amount of rain that fell on saturday!

and dunloy are relegated to div 2

Rasharkin/Moneyglass playoff is at casement on thurs night 7.30pm



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
Congratulations to Kevin McGourty who was part of the St. Gall's Beringer Cup winning team. Reports that he took his father's place on said team may have a bit of truth in them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 13, 2007, 12:00:03 AM
fancy moneyglass/Rasharkin game 2 go 2 a replay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 13, 2007, 08:35:48 PM
The world would be a much better and safer place if Naomh Eargnaid were relegated to Div. 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 13, 2007, 09:11:57 PM
Well done Rasharkin. My uncle John will be happy.

I shall sleep contently tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: busted sump on December 13, 2007, 10:49:15 PM
Your man Quinn must have done alrite for Rashrakin this year. I believe hes sniffing around a number of clubs in Armagh at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 14, 2007, 01:07:07 AM
Fair play to rasharkin--there may be a few interestin games invlovin them next year

on another note: Its good to finally be a Senior Member--all congratulations will be warmly received!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 14, 2007, 09:11:21 AM
A good result last night alrite for rasharkin.
Wasnt good for the owl ticker near the end, rasharkin showed how much they wanted back in div1 again after having a good lead in the first half, when moneyglass didnt score for the first 20 minutes with the score 1-07 to 0-0.
then they let their gaurd slip and went in at ht 1-07 to 2-01, after a few dubious refereeing decisions. ???
in the second half rasharkin kept that 2/3 lead the whole way through til moneyglass brought it back to a single point with 5 mins to go. then paul doherty came forward to score a great point for rasharkin to settle their nerves and j mcaleese settled the game with a difficult free.
ft score 1-14 to 3-05

was a fairly clean game throughout apart from a scuffle at ht.
the scuffle incidently didnt involved anyone from rasharkin or moneyglass.
one of the nuetral umpires think it was duffy from st galls and big roly poly mcpoland from eire og were trying a few wwf moves on eachother. mr duffy didnt make it out for the second half.

Quote from: busted sump on December 13, 2007, 10:49:15 PM
Your man Quinn must have done alrite for Rashrakin this year. I believe hes sniffing around a number of clubs in Armagh at the minute

Enda quinn walked away from the rasharkin job after the last div 2 game against glenravel citing work commitments for his reason of leaving. dont know his real reasons but think he helped to motivate rasharkin last night by not being there.
any team in armagh are welcome to him, hes abit inexperienced and naive!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 14, 2007, 10:42:42 AM
tell me more on the mcpoland fight? he can be a ###### mcpoland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 14, 2007, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: milltown row on December 14, 2007, 10:42:42 AM
tell me more on the mcpoland fight? he can be a ###### mcpoland

duffy was umpiring and at ht went for a smoke at the back of the stand
when he tried to get in again, i think you have to buzz someone to let you in
and mcpoland, who was doing steward, being his usual self ignored him, then when duffy got in after standing there for a couple of minutes, with everyone waiting on him to restart the match, he exchanged words with roly poly,
and handbags ensued! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 14, 2007, 01:16:50 PM
yeah they were prob laughing at him (Duffy) from behind the dark glass.

McPoland has been involved in some altercations at Casement. he once hit a defenseless Armagh man who had stumbled on to the running track when Antrim played Armagh in the Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RONAN on December 14, 2007, 01:28:58 PM
Following a request by the family of the late Emon Coleman, a special day of celebration to mark the life of the man himself is currently been organised for Saturday 7th June 2008, the first anniverasry of his death. On the day there will be a game between Derrys 93 All Ireland winning team and an Irish select of past and present players who played for and against Eamon.

Later in the evening an Informal Dinner will take place in a specialised marquee on the premises of St Treas Ballymaguigan Co Derry, which of course was Eamons home club. Cost of this event is £1000 per table, but in the event that you may not wish to avail of a table a donation of any kind would be very much appreciated.

The charities being supported which were close to Eamon are: Marie Curie Cancer, GOAL, Adoption UK, SMA and Foyle Hospice.

To book a table or make a voluntary contribution you can contact myself on 07875 400 839 or email me on: ronan@moltools.co.uk, or contact Jim Crozier on 07841100141 or email: jimgcrozier@msn.com. Jims address is 246 Shore Road, Magherafelt, Co Derry, BT45 6LH.

Any contributions via cheque can be made out to "Eamon Coleman Memorial Fund"

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 14, 2007, 09:31:09 PM
I see recent Beringer Cup winner and current Antrim panellist Kevin McGourty now has a column in the Gaelic Life. I wonder who his ghost writer is?

I thought his references to aboriginals was a tad racist. Anyone else agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2007, 11:02:48 PM
first a radio station,now a journalist,you have to hand it to him,he gets lots of publicity for himself.
is he back in the antrim panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 14, 2007, 11:32:03 PM
st galls agm was last night, i heard hes still talking now!!

any result for antrim V jtown nite?
team line up? list of the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 15, 2007, 10:51:02 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 14, 2007, 09:31:09 PM
I see recent Beringer Cup winner and current Antrim panellist Kevin McGourty now has a column in the Gaelic Life. I wonder who his ghost writer is?

I thought his references to aboriginals was a tad racist. Anyone else agree?

Is there no beginning to his talents?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 15, 2007, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on December 14, 2007, 11:32:03 PM
st galls agm was last night, i heard hes still talking now!!

any result for antrim V jtown nite?
team line up? list of the panel?

anyone got this result?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 15, 2007, 02:17:01 PM
antrim 0.16 jtown 0.9

jtown missing 6 or 7 starters
antrim played with 3 or 4 u21's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 25, 2007, 05:33:18 PM
Merry Christmas to all Antrim Gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 30, 2007, 07:42:16 PM
former cavan boss cassidy in running to take over at cargin,
would be a good appointment if it comes off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 31, 2007, 02:52:47 AM
Quote from: hightower on December 30, 2007, 07:42:16 PM
former cavan boss cassidy in running to take over at cargin,
would be a good appointment if it comes off

he was not manager of cavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WolfeTone on January 01, 2008, 04:55:09 PM
Cassidy isnt going to cargin..dont think they were too impressed with his salary demands and re-instated their previous manager from last year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 01, 2008, 06:58:49 PM
my mistake max,i also hear  tyrone club galbally weren't
that impressed with his wage demands either w/tone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WolfeTone on January 01, 2008, 07:29:07 PM
What now for the cass? maybe he shud keep in with the premier league, merry-go-round over there is twice as fast as it is here! could be in a job in no time! lol :P

not that i watch foreign sports.. :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 02, 2008, 03:47:09 PM
has the panel been named for the mc kenna cup?

anyone got a list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 02, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
I hope that a lot of clubs have reflected on their need to succeed at any cost (both financially and ethically) and have tried to get people from within their own clubs hence mercenaries Cassidy will find "work" hard to find this season...hopefully.

Clubs like Creggan & Slaughneil are a disgrace to the GAA, the amount of money they are ponying out for outside managers. There are many more who need to reconsider their actions in this regard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 02, 2008, 10:22:54 PM
Skull is your man Seamy Elliott not from Dunloy, he is about the biggest money grabber around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 03, 2008, 12:02:35 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 02, 2008, 10:22:54 PM
Skull is your man Seamy Elliott not from Dunloy, he is about the biggest money grabber around.

Quote from: theskull1 on January 02, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
There are many more who need to reconsider their actions in this regard

Well I'm not Seamy Elliott, so wtf is your point? Are you trying to embarrass me in an attempt to ruin the basic argument? The old two wrongs trick....brilliant.

Anybody getting paid illegally (i.e receiving payment over and above standard expenses) to manage teams is a disgrace to the GAA...is that clear enough for you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 03, 2008, 09:23:02 AM
skull, i agree with your sentiments, but there are some clubs who dont have anyone from within their club that can or will take on a senior job.
there for they see it as reasonable to pay someone who has the criteria to do the job.

we have in past years payed men hand over fist, throwing good money after bad.
but it doesnt bring you success, so this year we havent jumped on the band wagon,
and are trying to get a clubman to take on the job.

hopefully this will end the trend within the club.
our manager last year just walked before the end of the season and now hes going for jobs in armagh and tyrone,
he used us as a stepping stone and got a pound or two for his troubles.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on January 03, 2008, 11:26:26 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 02, 2008, 10:22:54 PM
Skull is your man Seamy Elliott not from Dunloy, he is about the biggest money grabber around.

Please name me what club sides outside of Dunloy Seamus Elliot has managed. I know he has coached at virtually every club in Antrim but since this is his JOB it is not surprising he is doing that. Taking two or three coaching sessions is not managing a team so what teams has he managed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 03, 2008, 01:58:01 PM
Im not slagging SE off but just because he actually hasnt managed that many clubs doesnt me he wasnt getting well looked after for work behind the scenes, which is kind of worse in my opinion cause he wasnt prepared to put his reputation on the line with some of the clubs he has coached and actually became their manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on January 03, 2008, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 02, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
I hope that a lot of clubs have reflected on their need to succeed at any cost (both financially and ethically) and have tried to get people from within their own clubs hence mercenaries Cassidy will find "work" hard to find this season...hopefully.

Clubs like Creggan & Slaughneil are a disgrace to the GAA, the amount of money they are ponying out for outside managers. There are many more who need to reconsider their actions in this regard

Your some craic Skull, the fact that Micky's wife not only comes from Creggan, but was one of Creggan and Antrim's best camogie players ever doesn't register with you. Also the fact that during the past twenty years Micky has taken Creggana number pre season training programs and trained us in the lead up to  championships, and the fact that he he also went up to Dunloy with DMcK and coached your hurlers on a number of sessions. How much did Dunloy pay for that, of thats right nothing because believe it or not, Micky's not at Creggan for the money either. If he was in it for the money, would he not be the coach of Burren by now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 03, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
CSC...skull doesn't give a f**k....whose name he blackens without a shread of truth, be it Mickey Moran, Damien Barton, John Rafferty, Kieran Mc Geeney, Mick O'Dwyer, Damian cassidy or Mickey Mouse..he has hung around to many bars and talk to too many drunk men...because its only place he can of gotten these stories....he is what i call a dangerous gyspy, hiding behind his computor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on January 03, 2008, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 03, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
CSC...skull doesn't give a f**k....whose name he blackens without a shread of truth, be it Mickey Moran, Damien Barton, John Rafferty, Kieran Mc Geeney, Mick O'Dwyer, Damian cassidy or Mickey Mouse..he has hung around to many bars and talk to too many drunk men...because its only place he can of gotten these stories....he is what i call a dangerous gyspy, hiding behind his computor.

MM I totally agree. It would be bad if skull knew what he was taking about, but the fact is he doesn't and is still prepared to blacken Morans name is reprehensible. Moran may have his faults, but he is a classy guy as anyone could gauge after the Mayo debacle, and he is a true GAA man. Micky and his sons have been up in Creggan coaching our youth teams during the summer months for $0, and they have been instramental in forming links between Glen and Creggan youth teams for friendlys, blitzs and coaching sessions. i have no doubt that his heart is in the right place.

Regarding Creggan, I believe that we are one of the best run clubs in the country. If you consider the limited resourses that we have, and the fact that we are sandwiched between have Cargin and and tir Na nOg clubs, the club has done a remarkable job to develop a good youth structure at the same time as developing our senior team as Div 1 regulars and at the same time endevour in buiding a new pitch and complex. Thats alot of work that is volunteered by a lot of people to ensure Creggan will remain strong in the future. But as Skull says, sure were only another dodgy club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 03, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
Due to the nature of the business of underhand payments to managers, rumour is all I have to go on. As I've said elsewhere too many good men stay silent when it happens whilst the practice continues because those good men can't prove it. So by MM & CSC's reckoning I should do the same and say fcuk all?

CSC & MM would you agree that anybody getting paid illegally (i.e receiving payment over and above standard expenses) to manage teams is a disgrace to the GAA?

Also, do you believe that the majority of outside people managing clubs are doing it for nothing and iare simply receiving standard expenses for thier efforts? If they are great GAA why do the majority of them not fully involve themselves with their local club?

Take the hump if you like about my specific examples, but would you also mind commenting on the general point? You both seem to be avoiding it. Maybe CSC you could tell me the facts seeing as I don't know them. And btw nobody has said that MM is not a nice guy, but he is not a true GAA man if he is taking backhanders, the same as anybody else who is at it is not a true GAA man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 03, 2008, 06:14:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 03, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
Due to the nature of the business of underhand payments to managers, rumour is all I have to go on. As I've said elsewhere too many good men stay silent when it happens whilst the practice continues because those good men can't prove it. So by MM & CSC's reckoning I should do the same and say fcuk all?

CSC & MM would you agree that anybody getting paid illegally (i.e receiving payment over and above standard expenses) to manage teams is a disgrace to the GAA?

Also, do you believe that the majority of outside people managing clubs are doing it for nothing and iare simply receiving standard expenses for thier efforts? If they are great GAA why do the majority of them not fully involve themselves with their local club?

Take the hump if you like about my specific examples, but would you also mind commenting on the general point? You both seem to be avoiding it. Maybe CSC you could tell me the facts seeing as I don't know them. And btw nobody has said that MM is not a nice guy, but he is not a true GAA man if he is taking backhanders, the same as anybody else who is at it is not a true GAA man.


you heard it first here folks...skull is a true GAA man...you know the type, who sit in the bars and then come on to discussion boards and make allegations and question their character all in the push of a keyboard. Who needs real GAA men like that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 03, 2008, 06:34:01 PM
Max you really are an arsehole. Can you do nothing else but attack the messenger in an attempt to get the rise? Is engaging in debate beyond you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 03, 2008, 06:40:01 PM
Skull I will debate about the right and wrongs of paying people....not a problem. My gripe with you and a few others is the fact you have not got a clue, same as me, as to whether the men you have menetioned are getting higher than normal gaa 'expenses', but you don't give a rats ass, you just continue on slabbering about them. BAR talk trash
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on January 03, 2008, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 03, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
Due to the nature of the business of underhand payments to managers, rumour is all I have to go on. As I've said elsewhere too many good men stay silent when it happens whilst the practice continues because those good men can't prove it. So by MM & CSC's reckoning I should do the same and say fcuk all?

CSC & MM would you agree that anybody getting paid illegally (i.e receiving payment over and above standard expenses) to manage teams is a disgrace to the GAA?

Also, do you believe that the majority of outside people managing clubs are doing it for nothing and iare simply receiving standard expenses for thier efforts? If they are great GAA why do the majority of them not fully involve themselves with their local club?

Take the hump if you like about my specific examples, but would you also mind commenting on the general point? You both seem to be avoiding it. Maybe CSC you could tell me the facts seeing as I don't know them. And btw nobody has said that MM is not a nice guy, but he is not a true GAA man if he is taking backhanders, the same as anybody else who is at it is not a true GAA man.

So if Moran was just getting expenses from Creggan thats fine. BTW Skull, do you have a rate in mind that Creggan should be paying before you will consider Moran a "True GAA Man". Have to laugh.
Regarding your points about discussing money, I'm not going to give details, but I know that I'm right in saying that Moran is not with Creggan for the money. And if you logically thick about it, we are a club who in the past number of years have bought land, developed it into a pitch and have a building project about to commence. Do you think that Tody just found a buiscuit  tin somewhere full with cash  just to pay Moran. We are not a cash rich club. We have no club house like Dunloy, and our main income is from the club lotto. So where is the money coming from.

BTW You seem to be avoiding the point that I am making about Moran's connections with Creggan. Do you deny Moran has connections with Creggan.

I know for a fact that how Creggan got Moran was
1 The amount of media coverage he had recieved during the Derry job, but especially the Mayo job, had given Mickey severe reservations about taking another high profile county job.
2 He wanted to stay involved in coaching, and DMcK and OMcA approached him about taking Creggan. A small club with little pressure but who are eager to challange in Antrim.
3 His wife was a Creggan lady, with obvious ties to the club.

Or Skull maybe it was purely for the money.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on January 03, 2008, 08:10:22 PM
Messed up that last message a bit
In response to Skull;

So if Moran was just getting expenses from Creggan thats fine. BTW Skull, do you have a rate in mind that Creggan should be paying before you will consider Moran a "True GAA Man". Have to laugh.
Regarding your points about discussing money, I'm not going to give details, but I know that I'm right in saying that Moran is not with Creggan for the money. And if you logically thick about it, we are a club who in the past number of years have bought land, developed it into a pitch and have a building project about to commence. Do you think that Tody just found a buiscuit  tin somewhere full with cash  just to pay Moran. We are not a cash rich club. We have no club house like Dunloy, and our main income is from the club lotto. So where is the money coming from.

BTW You seem to be avoiding the point that I am making about Moran's connections with Creggan. Do you deny Moran has connections with Creggan.

I know for a fact that how Creggan got Moran was
1 The amount of media coverage he had recieved during the Derry job, but especially the Mayo job, had given Mickey severe reservations about taking another high profile county job.
2 He wanted to stay involved in coaching, and DMcK and OMcA approached him about taking Creggan. A small club with little pressure but who are eager to challange in Antrim.
3 His wife was a Creggan lady, with obvious ties to the club.

Or Skull maybe it was purely for the money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 04, 2008, 09:40:14 AM
MM & CSC

You both totally negate your arguement against Skull when you mentioned the name of Cassidy in amongst your other managers. This is a man who wouldnt take his own club team with someone putting their hand in their pocket for him and this is FACT. Ask any member of the Bellaghy team of which I know a few personally and this is not bar talk.

Skull is against managers getting paid full stop. Mickey Moran did take Dunloy for a few sessions and maybe he is doing the Creggan job out of loyalty to his wife's club but that would make him one of the very few to do so.

The arguement was that no manager should be getting paid and a club the size of Creggan, Bellaghy and countless others should be able to find someone in their own club to take these jobs on without looking their mortgage paid out of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2008, 05:43:57 PM
Any word on a team / panel for tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 05, 2008, 02:11:38 PM
Right

during a conversation about the amount of teams on and around the Falls\Andytown area we were thinking about teams that went to the wall over the years, there was Riverdale Rovers and Gael Uladh any others?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
Match off.

I'm goin anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 05, 2008, 05:02:59 PM
The Antrim v QUB McKenna Cup Round 1 game at Casement Park on Saturday has been postponed due to a snow covered Casement Park.

The game will now be played on Wednesday 16th January, Casement at 8pm

(http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=643)
Title: st pauls fallout
Post by: Chamonmofo on January 07, 2008, 10:48:15 AM
any truth in the rumours of a fall out in stpauls... i hear it has seen mccartan transfer to st galls!!!

can anyone shed any light on this??
Title: st pauls fallout
Post by: murzo on January 07, 2008, 11:47:00 AM
im a st pauls man - havent hearsd anything about this.... i know there has been a fall out but i havent heard anything about a transfer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: murzo on January 07, 2008, 11:50:08 AM
howcome?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: murzo on January 07, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
so your saying its the man himself then????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on January 07, 2008, 12:35:54 PM
i would like to make it clear to hardstation that i am a stpauls man!! and proud of it!!! there are plenty of people who excel in keeping secets on shaws road...

and how i wish i would be legally able to be on the u21 squad a couple of years ago... would love it!! I did have clubmate on the under 21 team for the past 4 or 5 years who i would go and support and also here some inside info...

so i do raise the issue as a st pauls man and i wouldnt want to see anyone leave our club especially players for the future!

hardstation - happy enough with that or do you want to mix it some more  :D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2008, 02:19:23 PM
If you're a St Paul's man, why are you on here looking for gossip on St Paul's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 07, 2008, 02:23:37 PM
He has also been on Hogan Stand as "in the know" spouting the same drivel......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2008, 02:33:33 PM
If you were any kind of a clubman you'd not be on message boards spouting drivel about internal disputes.

Who really cares anyway.

On the St Pauls note - I see they have a former Down AI winner as the manager. What's his name? A boy like that should know how to bring some success though St Pauls would be a wee bit behind st galls / cargin at present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 08, 2008, 11:36:17 PM
anyone know when the antrim football leagues begin ??
Title: Re: Freezing
Post by: Minder on January 09, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2008, 08:39:57 PM
5 points each at half time.

Is there many at it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 10, 2008, 12:04:16 AM
who played?

who scored?

antrim good or cavan sh1te ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 10, 2008, 07:59:31 AM
thought the young lad that came on, murray i think played a stormer won a lot of ball considering the weather, hasson in mid. played well enough and the defence was strong.

as Station said they took their eye off the game and let the Cavan team in. maybe fitness was or lack of fitness i should say showed, the galls lads looked unfit boys pulling up with cramp. but better progress another win should maybe see them through to a semi final slot.

if you have a team on the ropes we should punish them and stretch our lead.

who's up next?























































Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 10, 2008, 09:03:31 AM
What was the team?

Where is Murray from? (sorry if I am exposing my ignorance)

Good to start on a postive note.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2008, 09:09:56 AM
Antrim: S McGreevy; T Scullion, P Doherty, A McLean; L Carland, E O'Neill, S Kelly; B Hasson, J Quinn; T O'Neill, K McGourty, S McVeigh; M McCann (0-5, four frees), M Magill (0-1), N Doyle (0-3, all frees). Subs: C Murray (0-1) for Doyle, inj (40); G Crossey for McVeigh (53); M Dougan for Hasson (59).


Conor Murray is from Lamh Dhearg, younger brother of Kevin who played for Antrim a cuple of years ago. Fresher at the Polytechnic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 10, 2008, 09:19:29 AM
Sources round the loughshore indicate that Shinny McQuillan is the Cargin manager for 2008.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2008, 10:00:21 AM
Good win - not a bad line-up considering who's missing.

When you bring back the university boys you'll strengthen that team somewhat.

I'd say boys like Tomas McCann, CJ, Kevin O'Boyle, maybe Niblock and Aodhan Gallagher could come into that team yet. Maybe a few others who I'm missing there too.

I haven't even seen Doyle play for Cargin for a few years - has he been injured? He's not a bad player. Doesn't have quite the same pace as the brother but he's good none the less.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on January 10, 2008, 05:00:54 PM
F**K that is some leap.

unfortunately didnt make the match but i hear the return of the prodigal son wasnt too great... heard  he wouldnt pass the ball, and got a right good rollicking from Jody at half time...
antrim always seem to struggle around midfield and a player not mentioned above who could fill that role is Sean Burke, think hes part of the squad but is with queens at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on January 10, 2008, 08:41:52 PM
conor murry has the biggest leap in the world, he is playing great stuff for uuj freshers. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2008, 08:57:07 PM
lads how many regulars did ye have playing last night,that would probably be there come championship time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 10, 2008, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 10, 2008, 05:10:49 PM
There were a few shouts from the crowd for him to pass it more but it's Antrim, we shout about everything.

haha we do shout about everything and anything--its like the Andytown News all over again!!

great leap by Murray

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 10, 2008, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2008, 08:57:07 PM
lads how many regulars did ye have playing last night,that would probably be there come championship time?

I would think that come championship McGreevy, Doherty, McLean, Kelly, Quinn, McGourty, McCann and Magill (with the correct attitude) would all be starters.

Of the others who played, Scullion, O'Neill x 2, Hasson, McVeigh & Dougan have previous senior experience, but may not make the starting 15. Hasson looks to have the best chance of this lot.

It may be a year too early for young Murray and Burke.

With Bradys (Colin & possibly Kevin), Tomas McCann, CJ, Paddy Cunningham, Loughrey & Crozier also in the mix, there is plenty of talent available. Add in other possibilities like the Closes, Beller, Gaga etc.

Priority has to be promotion from division 4 and hence non-qualification for Tommy Murphy. The Wicklow game will make or break our season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2008, 09:35:08 PM
Lots of talent there in Antrim it seems,justt hope this year isnt the one ye get it all together(in the championship at least)  :P

we had 5/6 definite starters and a few newcomers who are likelys so it was well matched.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2008, 09:35:08 PM
Lots of talent there in Antrim it seems,justt hope this year isnt the one ye get it all together(in the championship at least)  :P

we had 5/6 definite starters and a few newcomers who are likelys so it was well matched.



I just hope we dont suffer yet another false dawn and set the expectations too high, and i also hope we do our talking on the pitch not the usual spouting in papers about what we will do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2008, 10:11:14 AM
Quote from: loughshore lad on January 10, 2008, 09:19:29 AM
Sources round the loughshore indicate that Shinny McQuillan is the Cargin manager for 2008.

soucres are spot on...are Cargin to spent more time in the bars this year than the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WolfeTone on January 11, 2008, 10:57:01 AM
lol i see you're your usual diplomatic self max :D...the subtlety of a sledge hammer
Bar St. Galls, i thought that was the norm in most antrim clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 11, 2008, 11:02:01 AM
they drink in our club to. always a drink culture in the belfast clubs.

we do have a core of players on the senior team who would not drink too much, then others that drink too much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 11, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2008, 10:11:14 AM
Quote from: loughshore lad on January 10, 2008, 09:19:29 AM
Sources round the loughshore indicate that Shinny McQuillan is the Cargin manager for 2008.

soucres are spot on...are Cargin to spent more time in the bars this year than the pitch

Max, from what I can gather he was a lot, lot cheaper than their alternative candidate  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2008, 11:14:36 AM
From my sources ..which are Cargin sources...infact a teacher friend of mine who is very involved in the club and was at the agm...needless to say he is disgusted with the continued internal fighting...appartently Cargin had passed a by law a few years back saying that they would not take outside managers. The new chairman came in was unable to change the rule and has to wait to put it through next years AGM...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
Cargin had developed into a good footballing / relatively clean team over the last few years.

Hopefully this appointment will not change that though I'd not be so sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2008, 01:57:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 10, 2008, 05:10:49 PM
Burkey was at the game and was sitting along with the rest of the players who were injured/ineligible. Conor McGourty/Brady were two I spotted. They seemed to go into the changing rooms at half time. They may not have but they went in that direction. Burkey is a possibility. Big strong lad. Has he played with Queens yet? If so, how did he do?

Burkey is with the queens panel for the mckenna cup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 11, 2008, 02:56:41 PM
Burkey, he came on as a sub for queens
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WolfeTone on January 11, 2008, 04:04:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 11, 2008, 04:03:20 PM
Hopefully he gets a run out on Wednesday night. Jody should give McCartan* a few bob to play him.

*Is McCartan still managing Queens?

No hardstation, as far as i know, aidan o'rourke is managing them now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2008, 07:36:58 PM
Was Brolly on the line for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on January 11, 2008, 09:48:47 PM
Joe brolly is training with the antrim seniors, playing very good stuff too, he is giving a few of them a good roasting!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Out in Front on January 11, 2008, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 11, 2008, 07:36:58 PM
Was Brolly on the line for Antrim?

No O'Neill, he was up in the stand. I think he was taking a few notes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 11, 2008, 09:59:31 PM
Tis just I heard he was dictating matters during a friendly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2008, 10:39:52 PM
Brolly has been working with the squad for the past 2 years.
I heard he was in the changing rooms at half time and give McGourty a right bollocking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2008, 10:39:52 PM
Brolly has been working with the squad for the past 2 years.
I heard he was in the changing rooms at half time and give McGourty a right bollocking

God help us all...what is gromely letting that spacer do...and i mean brolly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the green man on January 12, 2008, 01:05:47 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2008, 10:39:52 PM
Brolly has been working with the squad for the past 2 years.
I heard he was in the changing rooms at half time and give McGourty a right bollocking

God help us all...what is gromely letting that spacer do...and i mean brolly.

What the Tones would give for a Brolly or his high profile type now. And thats the very thing, Max. You desire a high profile man, in fact you demand it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2008, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: the green man on January 12, 2008, 01:05:47 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2008, 10:39:52 PM
Brolly has been working with the squad for the past 2 years.
I heard he was in the changing rooms at half time and give McGourty a right bollocking

God help us all...what is gromely letting that spacer do...and i mean brolly.

What the Tones would give for a Brolly or his high profile type now. And thats the very thing, Max. You desire a high profile man, in fact you demand it.

i wouldn't let brolly near bellaghy, and i mean that...what experience or track record does he have... none...in fact one of the more worrying aspects of antrims defeat to derry last summer was that he was coaching one of the antrim corner backs to stand in the face of derrys corner forward...meaning he could not see the play or anticipate where the ball was coming from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 13, 2008, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 13, 2008, 03:57:35 PM
Tanked today. 1-12 to 0-07.
That's a right kick in the tools. Back to the drawing board for Jody.
Hopefully give the drunk students a hammering on Wednesday. Anyone there today?

Thats a bit more like the Antrim we have grown used to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 13, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 13, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
Just a minor blip in what will be a very successful year.
The times they are a changing.
;D

"........the first one now will later be last"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 13, 2008, 11:19:29 PM
from the county website:

Monaghan 1.12 Antrim 0.07
After a narrow one point victory over Cavan on Wednesday night, Antrim footballers were well beaten by a strong Monaghan team who have collected their first win in this McKenna Cup campaign at Ballybay. In the soft under-foot conditions both sides struggled early on to find the target with Antrim first to register a score. Monaghan replied with 2 quick points and when a long high ball was launched into the Antrim defence, confusion reigned supreme with ball eventually struggling into the Antrim net. At half-time Monaghan led by 1.03 to 0.03 having kicked just 2 wides to Antrim's 9. In the second half Monaghan surged into a 5 point lead thanks to the reliable free-taking of Thomas Freeman.  Michael McCann kept Antrim in touch with his own frees, but the Glens men never really looked like overhauling the Farney County who ran out eventual 8 point winners. While Antrim still have a mathematical chance of qualifying for the play-off series, Monaghan will have been delighted to get a win after successive defeats to QUB and Cavan. It will be calculator time on Wednesday evening with Antrim requiring a big win over QUB to have any chance of qualifying.

(Initial calculations indicate that Antrim would need to beat QUB by 13 points to top their section - a task that must be considered beyond the bounds of possibility for even the strongest of counties.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 13, 2008, 11:55:40 PM
What was the Antrim team?

Someone told me a fella called Bishop was doin nets for Queens on Wednesday??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 14, 2008, 10:02:47 AM
9 wides in the first half??  That's the Ants we know and...love :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WolfeTone on January 14, 2008, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 13, 2008, 11:21:17 PM
Strong rumours that Sean Burke is to play in nets for Queens on Wednesday night. ;)

Wouldnt read too much into that hardstation.  queens were without their regular goalie against cavan and had to do with a make-shift goalie.  If burkey was put in nets, it would only be a completely temporary thing! sean 'schmeichel' burke...dont think so! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WolfeTone on January 14, 2008, 01:26:23 PM
As for brolly and bellaghy...?!
No way...hasnt proved to be any sort of a manger whatsoever!
Wouldn't see him having anything near the temperament required! Gets too involved in the games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 14, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 14, 2008, 05:14:03 PM
Sung by Jody Gormley in Casement last night:

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.
When you take, you gotta give, so live and let live,
Or let go.
I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.

I could promise you things like beating f*cking Queens,
But I can't make the lads put the ball straight over.
So we better think it over.
Well, if sweet-talkin' you could make it come true,
I would give you the cup right now on a silver platter,
But what would it matter?
So smile for a while and listen to Brolly:
Antrim shouldn't be so melancholy.
Come along and share the good times with Mick McCann.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.

Instrumental break.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.

I could sing you a tune or realise I'm a tool,
But if that's what it takes to hold you,
I'd just as soon let you go, but there's one thing I want you to know.
You better look before you leap, Creagh Concrete runs deep,
And there won't always be someone there to pull you out,
And you know what I'm talkin' about.
So smile for a while and listen to Brolly:
Antrim shouldn't be so melancholy.
Come along and share the good times with Mick McCann.

I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.

To fade.


I'd go with the latter Jody.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 14, 2008, 11:54:46 PM
Jesus Hardstation! www.IfYourHeadsAwayJustSay!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on January 15, 2008, 03:25:13 PM
Bish is a tank
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on January 15, 2008, 06:51:51 PM
I don't get it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2008, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: JBD on January 15, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
been here a while and plucked up the courage at long last.

so where do Antrim stand now, are they any better than they were befor Jody took over? can they progress or are we destined to be in the nether regions for ever?



the result against Monaghan would suggest we have not improved--however monaghan were v. good last year and seemed to play a strong team when compared with their 1st 2 McKenna cup games. We are also missing the Uni players and have some injuries so we wont know until well into the league how well we will fare in the championship

I would be sceptical as to our chances of beating Queens 2moro nite
Title: Not wishing to disappoint hardstation
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 16, 2008, 11:13:45 AM
Busy, but here's a quick summary.

Quote from: JBD on January 15, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
been here a while and plucked up the courage at long last.

Welcome to the board. What's your club?

Quote from: JBD on January 15, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
so where do Antrim stand now?

9th best team in Ulster (arguably 8th if Down have a bad day); about 29th / 30th in Ireland.

Quote from: JBD on January 15, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
are they any better than they were befor Jody took over?

No better, one need only compare results with previous years.  A quick glance at the Tommy Murphy Cup final would suggest we learned little last year.

Quote from: JBD on January 15, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
can they progress or are we destined to be in the nether regions for ever?

We have a good enough squad to win promotion from Division 4 and to compete with any team outside the top ten on a one-off. To be successful needs a long-term overhaul in terms of thinking and attitudes by the Gaels of Antrim. Don't have the time to go into it now, but everyone else on the board has heard it from me a million times over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2008, 12:11:59 PM
Sam has issues with Jody Gormley so not sure how objective his views are.

Granted we were very poor against Derry last year and the most disappointing thing was perhaps the negative attitude but I do think that the TM cup showed a lot of promise.

We now have some players of real talent around the early 20s mark and some a bit below. Jody has blended McGourty and Crozier in well. Michael McCann and Paddy Cunningham are also younger players who look to have a quality about them and I also think Tomas McCann and hopefully Hasson can also fit into that category. I think in the TM cup we played some very good football and that shouldn't be forgotten.

The big test is this year though. We need to get out of division 4 and it's not unrealistic to believe we can beat Cavan - I think we will.

Have we progressed under him - I'm not sure. This year will tell. I have no agenda and I would say some of the football we played in the TM cup was the best I've ever seen an Antrim team play. That Wicklow team could beat a few teams in Ulster too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 16, 2008, 12:29:37 PM
Any issues that I may have with Mr Gormley has been outlined numerous times in the past (probably even on this thread). No-one has argued with any of the points I raised about him. If you like, I will raise them again, so that others can judge.

My criticism of Gormley is now based solely on his managerial record, as were my criticisms of previous managers - most notably Michael Culbert. Look at the league results over the past few years and tell me how we have progressed. It's not that long ago that we finished above Derry in Div. 2B ('03 I think). The TM Cup looked promising becuase only three took it in any way seriously, Clare and Wicklow being the other two. Actually finishing in the top half of Div. 2B and not qualifying for the TM Cup could have been construed as progress. Coming second in a poor three horse race can't. Besides Mr Gormley often spoke of how he was concentrating on us not conceding goals, yet after a full year, we concede three of the worst goals ever seen in Croke Park.

You have set the same targets as me, promotion and defeating Cavan. You are correct about some of the young talent and at full strength we have a decent first 15. It's how to develop that and I am unconvinced that Gormley is the man. As, it appears, are you, given that you can't decide if any progress is made.

If I was picking the Antrim team at full strength it would be something like this:

Red Dog

Brady C (or McClean), Doc, Loughrey
Crozier, McClean (or Convery), Kelly

Quinn (or McGourty K), Hasson

M McCann, McGourty K, Brady K
CJ, Magill, The Hands

Probably forgot a few, but certainly a more than decent defence and four or five handy forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2008, 01:12:40 PM
Last year was very hard to judge. Realistically we were never going to beat Derry so the main target would have been to progress in the TM which we did and it should have ended in us winning it. Jody was new in the league so experimentation in the first year should be allowed.

Realistically we don't have depth in the squad. The team which you have set out would be what most people would go for. I would put McCann more central and I still am not sure about Doherty at full back though think he should be catered for somewhere else. Scoose did well in the corner back slot too though I'm not sure he's in the squad - I think that may be injury though. Scoose, Mark Dougan, Tomas McCann and Aidso Gallgher would be the only other ones I could think of who may trouble that 15.

I vaguely remember your issues with Gormley but not too bothered to be honest.

I hope we get promoted and beat Cavan this year however I don't think we will get promoted. I do, however, think we will beat Cavan. My reasons for that line of thinking are squad depth. Best 15 against Wicklow I think we can beat them - anything short I'm not so sure. I'm not sure the exact makeup of division 4 however if Sligo and Clare are in it anything less than full strength would be tough for us too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 16, 2008, 01:15:25 PM
Slim shady kept telling us that Antrim were going to beat derry. Brolly seemed to have an inflence on the negative approach taken by Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 17, 2008, 12:02:43 AM
from the ever helpful bbc:

Antrim 1-11 0-16 Queen's 
The students of Queen's University pulled off another win in the McKenna Cup by overturning a half-time deficit to beat Antrim by five points.
Conor Murray scored Antrim's goal in the 22nd minute to help put Jody Gormley's side into a 1-7 to 0-7 advantage at the interval.

Murray finished Antrim's top scorer with 1-2 but his side added only four scores in the second half.

Paul McComiskey was top marksman for Queen's with six points.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bennydorano on January 17, 2008, 09:30:43 AM
Was at the Queens v Antrim game last night, entertaining game.  Queens, although I wouldn't say a lot fitter than Antrim, were certainly more organised and had a well thought out gameplan, whereas Antrim seemed to fly by the seat of their pants.  Antrim dominated MF with McGourty & Joe Quinn in good form, although I thought that Queens tried to intentionally bypass MF for most of the game.  The game's best player was Antrims #11 (McCann?), who looks to be an ideal CHF, but maybe a bit too similar in style to MCGourty, he gave Joe OKane a torrid time in the first half, but to be fair to O'Kane he turned it around a bit in the second half.  Best for Queens, probably Courtney & McComiskey, with hounourable mentions to Aodan Gallgher and Kevin Kelly (who were both strangely/tactically substituted).  I though the AOR/Bernie Murray management combo definitely delivered tactically on the night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 21, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
did antrim play Cross yesterday?

how did it go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2008, 10:22:18 PM
Decent debate on the Antrim side of the 40s going on in the Times this last couple of Sundays. Christy O'Connor claimed that Kerry's brutal savaging of Antrim's hand-passing game spelt he end of that approach until Down in the 60s. Some fella from Dublin replied this week that he is wrong. He claims that the Glens teams hated the fancy-dan hand-passing game of the city boys and managed to get it eventually outlawed for a while. Any views.

Must ask Buchanan. I'm sure he was starting out then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 22, 2008, 10:57:06 PM
dropped

niall doyle
colin brady
decky o hagan
naill mc keever

left the panel

chriss kerr
conor mcgoldrick


Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 22, 2008, 07:58:23 PM

Rossa - ?? was supposed to have been Tony Austin, but he is now going to Dungannon. Apparently, he near bit the hand off them when he was offered a decent package. 


;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2008, 11:29:03 AM
We've heard who's out but who is in?

Anyone a list of the panel - any shock/surprise inclusions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 23, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
Rossa - Brian White. Could he be the man to awaken this slumbering giant?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on January 24, 2008, 10:22:36 AM
Anybody at the meeting in the comfort inn last night regarding the league structures etc.?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2008, 11:02:22 AM
ANTRIM NFL SQUAD

A McClean, J Loughrey, B Hasson, J Crozier,

C Close, A Gallagher, C Totton, M Pollock,

C Murray, K Brady, E O'Neill, G Crossey,

J Quinn, J Finucane, K McGourty, L Carland,

M Dougan, M Magill, M McCann, S Burke,

G Bell, P Close, P Conlon, P Doherty, S Kelly,

S McGreevy, S McVeigh, T O'Neill, T Convery,

T Scullion,T McCann, K Niblock,

P Cunningham, K O'Boyle.

n Squad is provisional


I know most of these boys - but who is Conlon? Has Gavin Bell not a broken leg?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 23, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
Rossa - Brian White. Could he be the man to awaken this slumbering giant?

I think Yash has packed it in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on January 24, 2008, 05:55:03 PM
Something strange is going on, i dont really understand that panel at all.

By going with 8 u21s on his senior squad is Jody saying that if you have made it by now you aint making it to anyone over the age of say 22?

Also as asked above who is this boy conlon? Im pretty well versed on footballers in the county and basically if i havent heard of you you couldnt kick back doors at halloween ;D ;D ;D ;D

Strange that Brady and Doyle arent there, didnt really think the other omissions were good enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 24, 2008, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2008, 11:02:22 AM
I know most of these boys - but who is Conlon? Has Gavin Bell not a broken leg?

bell is back running with rossa and county
conlon is from tir na nog, stong and fit enough but useless on the ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 24, 2008, 07:03:35 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on January 24, 2008, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2008, 11:02:22 AM
I know most of these boys - but who is Conlon? Has Gavin Bell not a broken leg?

bell is back running with rossa and county
conlon is from tir na nog, stong and fit enough but useless on the ball

correction. paul conlon "P.C" is from gort na mona
was thinking of Totton, both alike - useless on the ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on January 24, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
Yeah now that you mention P.C i think i know who your talking about, and no sorry definately not of county standard. I think Jodys nuts? Totten is not up to the standard either but what do you do?

Other than hold open trials of course, a bit of the old swallowing the old pride and going after players wouldnt do any harm either ::) ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2008, 08:47:55 PM
Realistically though the best 15 in the county, CJ aside, would come from that bunch.

I'm disappointed that Colm Brady isn't in the panel as he's good cover or even a good option at corner back. We played Close, Doherty and Loughrey in the full back line against Wicklow and to be honest you could argue for every one of them being a forward rather than in the full back line so we are obviously struggling in there.(Loughrey wing forward for club, Close CHF and Doherty I've seen at FF a few times though I know he has moved back a bit in recent years). Hopefully Kevin O'Boyle will be a good option there too though.

Niall Doyle , who perhaps merits inclusion, wouldn't realistically get on the best 15.

What's Crossey like? Totten and Conlon would be the other two I don't know about but people have already discussed their "merits"...

Tony Convery is still there at 28/29 and Quinn / Brady still in there along with McGreevey so obviosuly not going completely for youth. Only one Portglenone man too - they usually have a higher count and with a county final you'd have expected more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 10:44:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2008, 04:06:16 PM
Rumour is that Yash is giving it one more year at the edge of the square. His brother, Bap, talked him back.

As I said a couple of years ago - there is no better sight than seeing Yash steamrolling is way towards goal, burying ball, fullback, keeper and one of the umpires in the back of the net.

I'd say this is the year Gormley's tenure will be at make-or-break juncture. Another year struggling in division 4 will not suffice.

Sunday, February 3rd: Away to Wicklow.- Toughest start possible. Defeat.
Saturday, February 9th: At home to Kilkenny in Casement Park, Belfast under lights. - Big win
Sunday, February 16th: Away to Clare - draw
Saturday, March 1st: Offaly at home under lights at Casement Park, Belfast. - defeat
Saturday, March 15th: At home to Carlow at Casement Park, Belfast. - Win
Sunday, March 30th: Away to London in Ruislip. - Win
Sunday, April 6th: Away to Tipperary. - Win
Sunday, April 20th: At home to Waterford at Casement Park, Belfast. Win

P8 W5 D1 L2

Probably won't be enough to edge Wicklow and Offaly. Offaly in Casement is the big one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on January 25, 2008, 12:20:03 AM
Your point is valid that the starting 15(bar CJ) would probably still come from that squad,Surely though you cant drop players on the merit that they might not make your starting 15? Brady to me is an obvious inclusion, i just dont understand how some of these boys have gotten there chance whilst others havent?

And i dont exactly agree that he hasnt totally gone for younth with the inclusion of mcgreevy, brady and joe quinn.. im aiming my comments more at the borderline players if you will, to me a 22-27 year old player who is extablished at county football is worth a shot more so than an u-21? is this group of players forgotten about?
All you have to do is look at Ryan McMenamin and Francie Bellew as evidence that there worth a try
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 28, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
The Walsh Cup final has been officially fixed for this Sunday 3rd Februaury at 2pm in Casement Park by the Leinster Council.

Footballers Sunday February 3rd: Away to Wicklow

Michael Magill surely cant be in two places at once?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on January 28, 2008, 04:41:21 PM
Heard magill is in fantastic shape at the minute, you never know maybe he could ;D ;D ;D ;D

On a more serious note good to see the hurlers doing well, and a win of sunday to lift the walsh cup would be a great great boost for this county, however surely the league comes above a pre season cup competition, im sure if it was the other way about and say antrim were playing in the mckenna cup whilst the hurlers had their first league game the league would take preference?

I assume tho the decision will be left to the player himself,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 30, 2008, 08:36:10 PM
decision made, Michael Magill will be playing for Antrim hurlers this weekend and propably for the rest of the year.

i heard Jody was on his back, ringing him several times at 7.30 Monday morning, and Magill lost the rag and told him where to go and that he would be playing for the hurlers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 30, 2008, 11:57:18 PM
You heard wrong Play...Jody did indeed ring him to find out. Any managers right to do so (7.30am a bit overzealous).

But from what I hear he never "lost the rag and told him where to go".

Stop scare mongering until you have something concrete.
Title: League Structures 2008
Post by: aontroim on January 31, 2008, 07:59:23 AM
After at least 3 meetings and two and a half hours of intensive debate this evening, Antrim County Committee have finally agreed on the structures for the All County Leagues and Championships for 2008.

The headline changes are as follows.

The football leagues will be structured on the basis of the CCC proposal which can be found in the Admin section of this site.

The football championship will remain as an open draw with no seeding except that there will be two Junior football championships for teams competing in and dependent on their lower league status.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 31, 2008, 03:05:17 PM
From the BBC

Wicklow v Antrim
Aughrim
Sunday, 3 February
Throw-in: 1430 GMT
Live updates on BBC Radio Ulster MW & the BBC Sport website

Antrim boss Jody Gormley goes with the tried and test for Sunday's Allianz NFL Division Four trip to Wicklow. Apart from Gort na Mona's Michael Pollock, who will be making his League debut, Gormley gives his regulars a run to prove themselves.

Sean Kelly leads the side from centre-half back while Kevin McGourty and Joe Quinn are midfield partners. Antrim will be without Micheal Magill who will line-out with the hurlers when they face Offaly in the Walsh Cup.


Antrim: S McGreevy; T Scullion, P Doherty, A McClean; P Close, S Kelly, J Crozier, J Quinn, K McGourty; A Gallagher, M McCann, T O'Neill; M Pollock, K Niblock, J Loughrey.

Kevin Niblock @ FF and James Loughrey in the corner...Any thoughts???


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2008, 03:45:16 PM
I'd prefer scoose and Tony Scullion to switch positions... Think Tony Scullion is good at half back but dodgy in full back line.

Not at all sure about the FF line but then with McGourty, Magill and Cunningham not there you're probably losing your whole FF line so have a lot less to pick from. Is Ciaran Close fit an in the panel?

I'd expect Loughrey to maybe play closer to midfield and leave the other two in there. Niblock is strong on the ball so probably not a bad option for FF.

Aside from that almost the best we've got.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 03, 2008, 04:01:27 PM
latest scoreline

wicklow 1-7 antrim 0-7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 04:17:24 PM
That's a fine win for the Saffrons down in Wicklow.

Promotion push is definitely on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 03, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
Wicklow 1-8 Antrim 1-13


great weekend for Antrim gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 03, 2008, 04:36:23 PM
who played well? good scoring for this time of the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 03, 2008, 06:21:54 PM
From the bbc website:

Wicklow 1-8 1-13 Antrim 

Thomas McCann celebrates after scoring his goal for Antrim
Antrim stormed back from four points down at half-time to claim victory in their Allianz NFL Division Four opener at Aughrim on Sunday.
The Ulster visitors were a point ahead after a tight opening 20 minutes but Sean Odlum's goal helped Wicklow to a 1-6 to 0-5 lead at half-time.

It was all Antrim after the break as they fought back to level before racing clear of the Leinster men.

Thomas McCann netted with eight minutes left as the Saffrons eased to a win.


Says Thomas McCann scored the goal, although shows a picture of Paddy Cunningham celebrating. You could never be too sure with the bbc!

hope young McCann did get it, heard he flew home from a ski trip to make the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 07:59:35 PM
How does one go about claiming Saffron citizenship? How long do I need to live and work here? I can play the Green Glens and know what a bacon butty is.

The future's yellowish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 03, 2008, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 07:59:35 PM
How does one go about claiming Saffron citizenship? How long do I need to live and work here? I can play the Green Glens and know what a bacon butty is.

The future's yellowish.

You would have to change your avatar for a start.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 03, 2008, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on February 03, 2008, 06:21:54 PM
From the bbc website:

Wicklow 1-8 1-13 Antrim 


who all scored and played ??

what subs came on??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 03, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
Big, big win for the saffrons to-day. A defeat would have to all intents and purposes ended their season. Didn't expect an Antrim win without their entire full forward line but will happily take it.

Certainly is Paddy Cunningham in the photograph and it is likely that the match correspondent has erred with the younger of the two McCanns. Don't particularly care who got it.

Still, one swallow does not a summer make and until promotion is a mathematical certainty, then there is plenty of possibility for a nest-shitting session. Too many false dawns in the past for ss2 to get too carried away just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 03, 2008, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 03, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
Right.
1. You need to attend the Lammas Fair and eat £20 worth of Yellow man.
2. You must be able to play The Green Glens of Antrim, The Blue Hills of Antrim, McIlhatton and Roddy McCorley.
3. As a newcomer, when Club Aontroma ask you for £100 for a raffle ticket, you must give £200.
4. You must not wear dodgy headgear unless it has been made from your own animal in the Glens. (Glen Road and Glenavy included)
5. You must drink Poitin.........a lot.
6. You must call them An'rim and the word yourself is pronounced yoursel'.
7. You must hate the county board and/or management.
8. You must always support An'rim by constantly saying how shite they are and writing them off. Even against Kilkenny in football.
9. You must never get embarrassed.
10. You have to be prepared to get lashed on. Enniskillen '06, Casement'07, Today '08. It's a curse we have. Anytime An'rim play, it's like Jesus dying and it pours down.
Failte go hAontroim.

:D

O'Neill

can you name the nine Glens, the two HS has mentioned dont count
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 09:07:22 PM
The wife once won a crate of beer in Portstewart for doing just that. I can but sure you'll say a googled it.

As for HS's list.

1. Done it.
2. Can do.
3. Not sure.
4. Fail.
5. Want any?
6. Can do.
7. Can do.
8. Can do.
9. Can do.
10. Can do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 03, 2008, 09:10:34 PM
For personal  reasons I cannot commit to:

7. You must hate the county board and/or management.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 03, 2008, 09:16:07 PM
Feck that county boards shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 04, 2008, 12:33:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 03, 2008, 08:16:15 PM

1. 10. You have to be prepared to get lashed on. Enniskillen '06, Casement'07, Today '08. It's a curse we have. Anytime An'rim play, it's like Jesus dying and it pours down.
Failte go hAontroim.

of all those days--Enniskillen was the worst

i nearly died of the wet that day sittin on a shitty soakin wooden bench soaked to the skin--jeans stickin to me soaked the whole way home
in 07 i was in the stand as the hurls were flyin!

never mention enniskillen 06 again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on February 04, 2008, 06:05:44 PM
10. You have to be prepared to get lashed on. Enniskillen '06, Casement'07, Today '08. It's a curse we have. Anytime An'rim play, it's like Jesus dying and it pours down.#

Down 2000 now that was a wet one!  Promotion from division four is a realistic goal and one that we should achieve because the teams attitude seems to be right this year.  Cavan wont know what hits them this summer! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 07:57:13 PM
That was a frightening day alright in may respects. I remember it was the first time I'd heard "Antrim! Antrim!" ring around Casement at a football game (or was it An'rim! An'rim!"?). (that's some consecutive punctuation).

When Gregory McCartan's penalty was saved a giant woke from its slumber. It soon went back to sleep though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 04, 2008, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 07:59:35 PM
How does one go about claiming Saffron citizenship? How long do I need to live and work here? I can play the Green Glens and know what a bacon butty is.

The future's yellowish.

11. You (and not your wife or in-laws) must buy the wee lad an Antrim jersey and take him back to the hill wearing it.

12. You have to invent a new nickname for yourself based around your surname, either by shortening it (a la Army, Bukey, McP, McGourt, McCaff, Rambo, Cabey) or lengthening it (Breener, Walshy, Wardy, McManusy, Stewarty). I propose a compromise, Neilly.

13. You have to create an Antrim user on the gaaboard and post at least 50 Antrim related posts without being rumbled. I propose Saffron Shane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 04, 2008, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 04, 2008, 08:47:56 PM
QuoteYou have to invent a new nickname for yourself based around your surname, either by shortening it (a la Army, Austies, Bukey, McP, McGourt, McCaff, Rambo, Cabey)
Surely, this is a lengthened version of the surname? Or does it sound shorter? Not sure.

Pedantic clown, never wanted him in the list anyway. He's ruining it. Out he goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:07:14 PM
It was. Like Nelly though. Or Olly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
Bought this too:

(http://images.clickmusic.co.uk/pages/pink_shellsuit.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 04, 2008, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
Bought this too:

(http://images.clickmusic.co.uk/pages/pink_shellsuit.jpg)

was it bought in Prymark
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:24:47 PM
So Antrim v Kilkenny - will Jody give the lesser lights a run-out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 04, 2008, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 04, 2008, 09:22:25 PM
The hat is an improvement.

The shell suit is also an improvement on the corduroy jacket and slacks he has been sporting recently.


Quote from: hardstation on February 04, 2008, 09:13:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:07:14 PM
It was. Like Nelly though. Or Olly.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 11, 2007, 09:19:29 PM
Good man Shane (Oliver ?? what's that about?).  Excellent reading there.

Hmmm, I'm interested.

They tell me ONeill was named after the Irish saint who was canonised in the year he was born. The Shane bit seems to have been an after-thought.

Saffron Oliver wouldn't quite do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2008, 09:47:36 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:24:47 PM
So Antrim v Kilkenny - will Jody give the lesser lights a run-out?

Surely all our boys are lesser lights ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 05, 2008, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 05, 2008, 09:47:36 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:24:47 PM
So Antrim v Kilkenny - will Jody give the lesser lights a run-out?

Surely all our boys are lesser lights ;D

Thats what i thought, how can you be anything other than a "lesser light" when you are a Division 4 team with one championship win in 20 odd years......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2008, 11:10:49 AM
Make that two minder - we beat Cavan the other year too!(We proceeded to get walloped by Tyrone who went on to win their first AI. Kerry got walloped by them too that year so no shame in it!)

(Big Darren O'Hare got two goals that day in Casement. On that note I don't think I've seen or heard of him play since that c'ship.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2008, 12:06:27 PM
I can remember three wins.  Any advance on three?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
Two wins two draws in the football and beating Offaly in the hurling. That's all I can mind!

I've seen the minor footballers win maybe half a dozen games over the years too. I know they've won more but haven't been at all of them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2008, 03:33:41 PM
One win in the qualifiers - beat Leitrim at Casement in 2001 and there were no others AFAIK.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2008, 04:03:32 PM
Oh yeah, I was at that Leitrim game too.

Did we not beat someone two years ago prior to getting beat by a point by Clare? Maybe I'm wrong in that though... Hmm, Waterford springs to mind!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on February 05, 2008, 09:34:41 PM
ok men, the manager asked me to put out the word to see if we can get some challenge matches organised over the next few weeks before our season starts on the 9th March, so we are a Division 3 team, junior grade, and if you are willing to give us a game, sent me a pm. we would be willing to travel, but not too far! though you could always come up to holywood, take the wifes/partners etc and send them to Ikea while you are playing the game, and it keeps everyone happy!  ;D
cheers guys!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
I thought it was Louth but that went in Louth's favour after extra-time (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20040613/ai_n12898146).

They lost by a point to Clare in 2006 - Clare 1-13 Antrim 2-09
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
I thought it was Louth but that went in Louth's favour after extra-time (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20040613/ai_n12898146).

They lost by a point to Clare in 2006 - Clare 1-13 Antrim 2-09

One of the worst performances i have seen the Saffrons churn out, and that is saying something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2008, 04:05:37 PM
Don't know why we're debating a fourth win. I certainly can't think of any.

Feckin editing posts is great.  You should always ensure that you quote the original poster when you are replying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 06, 2008, 04:14:34 PM
Post again. Ziggy reckons that you have a dangerous number of posts.

Who all will be attending on Saturday night?
Hangovers are not good enough excuses. It's at 7.

SS2 tells me it's at 2.30, though his reliability is suspect these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2008, 10:20:51 AM
I admit it the question was me and I was wrong...

Anyway - I see Magill is playing for the hurlers this weekend. May make getting back in the football team tough...

Any news on the football team? Cunningham could be back in. Perhaps maybe see young Kevin O'Boyle on too? Any news / thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 07, 2008, 11:41:28 PM
i think this Kilkenny game will be a waste of time

altho it may be good to give the second 15 a run out--we should still win as kilkenny got an awful tanking last week by Tipp

i hope kilkenny continue to play in the league but fear they'll throw the towel in if they keep gettin tankins.

They should give free entry to the game on saturday because it hurt payin anything to watch a team get slaughtered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 08, 2008, 08:51:25 AM
i fear thats the wrong atitude gold these teams will only get better in time, to throw in the towel now would be silly, did we throw in the towel when we got tanked or in the hurling getting tanked by the likes of Cork Limerick and kilkenny and co? hey have to start somewhere.

also the score difference may play a part in this seasons outcome so a strong team should be sent out. if tipp beat them by twenty then we should be looking for a bigger score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2008, 05:08:46 PM
McGourty won't like that...

I like the balance of that team better than the starting Wicklow team though. Forwards in the full forward line and defenders in defense is always a bonus!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2008, 05:38:48 PM
Yep agreed. He scored 4 points I think and is not a free taker so that is a very good return.

I do think that is, McGourty aside, a stronger team though. Is Kieran Close in the panel this year? Problem in the FF line is when all are fit too many left footers! In that regard good to see Tomas McCann in there - he is , I think, a right footer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 10, 2008, 10:28:30 AM
From BBC Sport

Antrim 2-25 0-06 Kilkenny

Antrim made it two wins out of two in the Allianz National Football League Division Four by beating Kilkenny 2-25 to 0-6 at Casement Park. The Saffrons started by registering eight unanswered points and it was 15 minutes before Kilkenny got on the scoresheet with an Ed Brennan point.

Mark Dougan scored the first goal on 20 minutes and then Terry O'Neill netted to leave it 2-15 to 0-3 at the break. Antrim continued to dominate and Paddy Cunningham ended with a tally of 0-11.

Cunningham and Dougan were the predominant scorers in Antrim's early blitz and Dougan blasted the ball into the roof of the net to confirm his side's dominance. The second goal came when visiting goalkeeper David Lynch made a mess of a kickout and Terry O'Neill lobbed the ball into the net from 45 yards.

The second half was a disjointed affair in which each manager made five substitutions. Cunningham added four points to his first-half tally while Brennan scored two for Kilkenny and David Herrity scored their only point from play.


Antrim: S McGreevy, T Scullion, A McClean, K O'Boyle, J Loughrey, S Kelly (capt), J Crozier, J Quinn, M McCann, T O'Neill, K Niblock, A Gallagher, T McCann, M Dougan, P Cunningham.

Title: Kevin McGourty axed by Gormley
Post by: spiritof91and94 on February 11, 2008, 10:34:22 AM
Irish News today reports that Antrim rebel Kevin McGourty has been axed by Jody Gormley for the NFL as he didnt attend training last week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 11, 2008, 10:36:52 AM
Mc Gourty has been dropped from the county panel according to the Irish News...reason given...failure to attend training last week.
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 10:41:46 AM
Is he anything to Kevin Mc Gourty? Brave yourself for a media onslaught by Mister Mc Gourty.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 10:43:49 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on February 11, 2008, 10:36:52 AM
Mc Gourty has been dropped from the county panel according to the Irish News...reason given...failure to attend training last week.

Im sure we wont hear another word about it...........  ;)
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: illdecide on February 11, 2008, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on February 11, 2008, 10:34:22 AM
Irish News today reports that Antrim rebel Kevin McCourty has been axed by Jody Gormley for the NFL as he didnt attend training last week -

That lad McGourty [Edited by Mod3], have had a few run ins with him over the years. His problem is he thinks he's too good to be playing for Antrim, in fairness to him he can play a bit and is a good player but his attitude stinks and i wouldn't have him about me either...

Jasus lads don't be so harsh on the spelling...
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: orangeman on February 11, 2008, 11:24:44 AM
Why are we surprised by this news ?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 11:27:47 AM
Ah but he is a real maverick, just wants to win,Antrim are not professional enough for him, his high standards are not being met etc etc etc. Its getting old Kevin. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2008, 11:47:59 AM
Not stirring, not blowing up his ego, not enjoying even coming on and speaking about it

BUT

McGourty is one of our best players and must know this himself.
He did indeed get dropped to the bench for missing training on Thursday. It was a match against Kilkenny for god's sake so take being dropped and realise you will walk back into the team after an easy win.
Then I believe he did a no show with the team on Saturday and proceeded to have a few in the social club at Casement during the game.

What goes on in that man's head?

PS don't like speaking about such non GAA stuff but its pretty relevant to the year ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 11, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
Apparently he turned up for the team bus for the wicklow match full drunk!

might have something to do with it. ;)

i'm sure kevin will express himself on the issue when brendy crossan catches up with him.
if only he wud take his head from his arse and just play football.
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: nrico2006 on February 11, 2008, 12:19:26 PM
Tomorrow's Irish News will no doubt have an interview and picture!
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: rashCharacter on February 11, 2008, 12:24:51 PM
Why has this got its own thread, should be on the local antrim footabll thread!
Title: Re: Kevin McGourty axed by Gormley
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 11, 2008, 12:39:48 PM
Does anybody give a toss any more?
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 12:41:07 PM
Agreed, Mods any chance? Merge? It is already being discussed on Antrim Football thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 11, 2008, 12:42:12 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onion Bag on February 11, 2008, 12:44:38 PM
What is the score with that Mc Gourty, Is he a real w****r? sounds like it,
and i have seen him play, great player, needs to sort his head out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 12:45:10 PM
The most unbelievable thing about it all is the following extract from todays Irish News......"Kevin Mc Gourty could not be contacted last night".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on February 11, 2008, 12:47:35 PM
Was the Irish news hotline to the mc gourty house hold not working or how was he uncontactable?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 12:50:38 PM
I dont think his out of control ego should be fed any longer, you can be sure he is reading this board. His oul boy certainly does.
Title: Re: Kevin McCourty axed by Gormley
Post by: tyroneman on February 11, 2008, 01:20:59 PM
If I'm not mistaken was McGourty's insistance on 'doing his own thing' not a major factor in St Galls losing to Cross this year????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 11, 2008, 01:53:40 PM
the antrim football squad are strong enough, Jody obviously knows what he's doing and is intent on keeping everyone on a strict/tight lease. will this workout? well, only the Cavan match will decide that.

seen CJ training away, he seems fit enough maybe fitter than Cunningham, is the door closed on him for the year. and if a player is dropped from the panel can they take on someone else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
There should be a space for him now  ;)

If Kevin McGourty stories are true then he can no longer slag off any professionalism if he doesn't even attend training. Also any credibility he ever head is gone. That's if.

I would hope that CJ is brought back in at some stage sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 11, 2008, 03:54:48 PM
Hes a real Twit if you ask me - and lets not forget extremely ugly!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 11, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
not that i'm saying he's not ugly but what county players are pretty ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on February 11, 2008, 04:08:50 PM
so he couldnt be contacted last night then....maybe something to do with the factthat the ladies Dowd cup was on this weekend. The man has to prioritise!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 11, 2008, 04:26:27 PM
Your right milltown row ive just had a think - what about the gooch Cooper, Marty o'rourke and his gorgeous brother Cathal, Stephen Kernan ha ha what good looking guys!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2008, 04:36:58 PM
It was him with the hat in the stand.


On another more important matter - has the Irish News gone subscription again. I only found out you didn't have to still pay a couple of weeks ago and now it appears you have to subscribe again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on February 11, 2008, 04:40:56 PM
yea mc gourty was in the stand along wey his wee bro.  Forget about him some of paddy cuningham's scores were fantastic and not forgetting terry o neill's goal still chuckling about it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 05:02:51 PM
Is it "IVEDECIDED" or "shaws road". . . . I cant decide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 11, 2008, 05:05:08 PM
Just heard McGourty has declared for Cork ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2008, 05:55:42 PM
Cheers Hardstation. I could've sworn I was reading the same day's articles last week.

Did O'Neill mean his goal??
Title: Re: The K..in M. Go.rty Thread
Post by: Orior on February 12, 2008, 12:06:05 AM
Ah McGourty, you'll never change.
Title: Re: The K..in M. Go.rty Thread
Post by: Bacon on February 12, 2008, 12:07:46 AM
Why was the fool kicked off the panel?
Title: Re: The K..in M. Go.rty Thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on February 12, 2008, 10:59:57 AM
Lads, can I draw your attention to Rule 2 - Libellous or insulting posts about a real person, especially the last sentence.
'This also applies to unwarranted abuse of GAA players and officials.'

Please refrain from this sort of personalised attack on a GAA Player, or anyone really. By all means discuss someones performances/failing on the pitch, but bringing their character into it is not on.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Kevin McGourty axed by Gormley
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on February 12, 2008, 11:01:48 AM
Lads, can I draw your attention to Rule 2 - Libellous or insulting posts about a real person, especially the last sentence.
'This also applies to unwarranted abuse of GAA players and officials.'

Please refrain from this sort of personalised attack on a GAA Player, or anyone really. By all means discuss someones performances/failing on the pitch, but bringing their character into it is not on.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Kevin McGourty axed by Gormley
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on February 12, 2008, 11:03:34 AM
As requested, I am also moving these threads into the 'Antrim' local thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on February 12, 2008, 02:58:46 PM
 You're at it again.  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 12, 2008, 03:13:04 PM
Nearly Mad seems to be an impressive addition to the Gaa Board, quite the wordsmith.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 12, 2008, 03:21:05 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on February 12, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Sniping.. Are you a Mod?  If not,let those that are do there job,please!

It should be "their"......Back to class
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on February 12, 2008, 03:23:09 PM
 Two snipers together. A pair of ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 12, 2008, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on February 12, 2008, 03:23:09 PM
Two snipers together. A pair of ?

Snipers.....????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 12, 2008, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 12, 2008, 03:38:48 PM
This is getting tiresome.
Anyway, anybody any thoughts on the Clare game?

It is, im sure Shaws Road will let anyone know, that really cares, what happened in the Irish News in the coming days, once he gets Brendy Crossan mobilised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2008, 04:15:02 PM
Yeah can we move on, there's been enough air time for said individual to last a lifetime...

The Clare game could be a big one. Potential banana skin. I think we had a well balanced team against Kilkenny though - Loughrey in defense, Cunningham on, right and left footed corner forwards and McLean in full back are to me big plus steps. Any thoughts? It is this weekend isn't it?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Agreed - we should win this and Clare seem to have gone backwards since their last qualifying win against us and we seem to have, well hopefully anyway, gone forwards.

It's a bit like the Dublin game in the hurling - a good benchmark of where we're really at but it's one I think we'll win. Three point win for Antrim...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glenullinabu on February 12, 2008, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 12, 2008, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on February 12, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
If he was axed for missing training,I think that's a bit strong.But there must be something else because he was named in the programme but chose to go to the stand.Maybe, as someone said, the Ladies Football was on and he was looking after Queens--a distraction may have come his way...
It is indeed very strange. Was he axed before the game? That could be the reason for him watching from the stand. If he was looking after Queens, I would imagine that Jody knew about this before and I would imagine that they had discussed it. However, Jody can be oblivious to things. Remember he claimed that he was expecting everyone to turn up for training one Tuesday night in the summer after Antrim exited the Ulster championship (i.e I don't know of anyone going to America) even though the dogs in the street knew that some of the lads were flying out to America? He must live in a bubble.

well mcgourty obviously lives in teh clouds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 12, 2008, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 12, 2008, 04:22:02 PM
We really should win this. Clare is a brave distance to travel though (It's a long long way, it gets further day by day.....) and distance can be a big factor in National League games. Despite their poor recent results, they are a handy enough outfit. A win will set us up well for the Offaly match.

the boys are leaving friday evening so there should be no problem with the traveling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2008, 08:14:30 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on February 12, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
They'll have time to buy Gaelic Life to see what "my perfect cousin" is writing about this week :D :D

You should seek treatment for that obsession.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 13, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
got a txt tonight, you will never guess who was at senior hurling training tonight in dunloy


wait for it..


Kevin McGourty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 14, 2008, 08:57:39 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on February 13, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
got a txt tonight, you will never guess who was at senior hurling training tonight in dunloy


wait for it..


Kevin McGourty


Surely your on the take :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OakLeaf on February 14, 2008, 09:31:31 AM
He has to be on the take!! Then again, maybe Mc Gourty he thinks he's still in Belfast where apparently they can play for whoever they like?  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 14, 2008, 10:06:57 AM
He's not on the take.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OakLeaf on February 14, 2008, 10:09:07 AM
I've added a new Live Scores feature to GAA Radio. If you're at any Antrim football club games it'd be good if you could text score updates to 447624804328. This service is free for everyone to view at http://www.gaaradio.com/scores/liveScores.jsp . Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2008, 07:06:25 PM
There was a post on this earlier but for some reason it disappeared.

Antrim 1-13 Clare 0-3

A very good win and will do the score difference no harm either.

Crozier and Cunningham outstanding apparently.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 12:31:01 PM
think the hurlers are stealing some of the spotlight away from our footballers who had to travel to Clare on Friday night for the game on Sat. good win and it's all set up for the Offaly game. win this and i'd say we will get promoted. pressure is on and offaly were not that impressive at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2008, 04:07:59 PM
Does I seen Jody on Sunday count?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2008, 04:15:41 PM
Is the Offaly game this saturday night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2008, 04:30:56 PM
Should be alright.

If we are to win this we will have to curb Niall McNamee. He's a damn good forward that fella and is well capable of winning matches on his own. Boys like Ciaran McManus aren't bad either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 25, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
Antrim Championship draw tonight I believe.

Any word on CJ indeed? Has he been training with the panel at all? He came on for St Marys a couple of weeks back there.
CJ Magill and Cunningham a pretty strong FF line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 25, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
St Galls v Portglenone first round

only one i have heard so far, anyone else heard any draws?

heard CJ had a run in with Jody on sunday moring while playin a match between the u21's and a handful of seniors. heard young McGourty played poorly for his standards and got frustrated. when asked to do a warm down he exchanged words with Jody.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on February 25, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
St Galls v Portglenone first round

only one i have heard so far, anyone else heard any draws?

heard CJ had a run in with Jody on sunday moring while playin a match between the u21's and a handful of seniors. heard young McGourty played poorly for his standards and got frustrated. when asked to do a warm down he exchanged words with Jody.

when on Sunday morning did that happen?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 25, 2008, 11:47:40 PM
St Pauls V Gort Na mona
Cargin V St Bridgets

Quote from: Square Ball on February 25, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on February 25, 2008, 10:00:07 PM
St Galls v Portglenone first round

only one i have heard so far, anyone else heard any draws?

heard CJ had a run in with Jody on sunday moring while playin a match between the u21's and a handful of seniors. heard young McGourty played poorly for his standards and got frustrated. when asked to do a warm down he exchanged words with Jody.

when on Sunday morning did that happen?




i heard it happened after the match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 08:09:39 AM
i think our game is a preli. game and the winners play St Johns and a possible showdown with Cargin in the semi's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on February 26, 2008, 08:20:59 AM
All championship fixtures for football and hurling  in the antrim website.

We have drawn Randalstown in a preliminary round in  intermediate with the winners playing Ardoyne or Aldergrove
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 26, 2008, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 26, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
Play with the wind.
Any scoop on the line up for Saturday? Who has been going well at training?

CJ McGourty'd be a worry. He has been eating some big dinners lately with custard an all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 26, 2008, 10:52:35 PM
The three of them are fairly testing the new delicicies with savage determination. Waiting to see the current Saffron exile behind the soup counter any day soon. That'll be a full house, or 4-of-a-kind?

Any chance of texting Antrim/Awfully latest scores on Sat night? I've a feeling the Faithful will edge it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 27, 2008, 12:05:54 AM
heres your scoop

Antrim manager Jody Gormley has named an unchanged team for this weekend's crucial National Football League Division 4 clash with Offaly at Casement Park.
The Saffrons boss has named the same starting fifteen that defeated Clare last time out for Saturday evening's crucial game between the division's two unbeaten sides.
Victory would leave the Saffrons in a very strong position, and home advantage will obviously be an advantage, but the Midlanders will prove very tough opponents and this game will be a good yardstick to how well Antrim have advanced this season.

The full team is -
1.SEAN MC GREEVEY
2.TONY SCULLION
3.ANDY MC CLEAN
4.KEVIN O BOYLE
5.JAMES LOUGHERY
6.SEAN KELLY
7..JUSTIN CROZIER
8.JOE QUINN
9.MICHAEL MC CANN
10.AODHANGALLAGHER
11.KEVIN NIBLOCK
12.TERRY O NEILL
13.PADDY CUNNINGHAM
14.MICHAEL MAGILL
15.MARK DOUGAN

16.JOHN FINNUCANE
17.EOIN O NEILL
18.SEAN BURKE
19.CONLETH TOTTEN
20.CONNOR MURRAY
21.GERARD CROSSEY
22.LIAM CARLAND
23.TOMAS MC CANN
24.MICHAEL POLLOCK
25.SEAN MC VEIGH
26.TONY CONVERY
27.BENNY HASSON
28PAUL DOHERTY
29.CONAL KELLY
30.PAUL CLOSE
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 27, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
CJ not part of the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 27, 2008, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 27, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
CJ not part of the panel?

Maybe he's seen the light and (like his bro) gone to join the hurlers????????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 27, 2008, 02:19:54 PM
yes hardstation, Conal kelly is "Doot" who was liven in Kerry for a while. has been back and training with the county for a month or so now

CJ is not part of the panel at present and is away playing (drinking) for St Marys in Cork this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 27, 2008, 03:28:57 PM
quote author=PlayWithTheWind link=topic=21.msg252821#msg252821 date=1204121994]
yes hardstation, Conal kelly is "Doot" who was liven in Kerry for a while. has been back and training with the county for a month or so now

CJ is not part of the panel at present and is away playing (drinking) for St Marys in Cork this weekend
[/quote]

is that with the huling team?[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 27, 2008, 03:32:17 PM
Any Saint Paul's lads on that team lads? One of my best memories is winning the All Ireland Minor Club championship that was hosted by Saint Paul's in 1991. Ferbane from Offaly, Dungiven from Derry, Mervue from Galway and Nemo Rangers from Cork were the 4 provincial champions, and we beat Dungiven in the semi final and Mervue in the final.

Great craic out there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 27, 2008, 03:39:52 PM
Sean McGreevy
Joe Quinn
Liam Carlin

all St Paul's men

[/quote]

is that with the huling team?
[/quote]

yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 27, 2008, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 26, 2008, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 26, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
Play with the wind.
Any scoop on the line up for Saturday? Who has been going well at training?

CJ McGourty'd be a worry. He has been eating some big dinners lately with custard an all.

Although, they tell me, he doen't like anchovies in his lunchtime curry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 28, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
Good to see a few more Antrim heads involved in the Sigerson, can be no bad thing at all.

Always thought that was one of our downfalls coupled with not much McRory action.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 28, 2008, 05:59:04 PM
Agree Glensman.

If you read the headlines about Queens UUJ it's Cunningham and McCann getting them. Gallagher seems to be getting good press too. Good to see. Few other boys there too who'd be no slouches either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CiKe on February 28, 2008, 07:24:06 PM
I wondered what happened to Doot, played a lot against him at underage and at that level he was probably one of the best in the county. Am I right in thinking he had some sort of serious knee injury? Never knew he had gone to Kerry and assumed he had just given it up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cruncher on February 29, 2008, 10:05:27 AM
Anyone aware of how many people involved in wednesday's sig panels are part of the antrim setup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 29, 2008, 11:22:37 AM
Any predictions for the Offaly game?

Tomas McCann and Paddy Cunningham for J'Town

Justin Crozier, James Loughrey and Aodhan Gallagher for J'Town

Not sure about other panelists. Thought Andy McLean was at J'Town and Kevin Niblock was at Queen's so maybe they were subs?

Few St Mary's players from Antrim too. Pollock and McGourty anyway - maybe more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 29, 2008, 01:36:36 PM
Andy McLean has finished university
Kevin Niblock is now at St Marys

Sean Burke - sub for Queens
Conor Murray - panelist for J'Town

Quote from: CiKe on February 28, 2008, 07:24:06 PM
I wondered what happened to Doot, played a lot against him at underage and at that level he was probably one of the best in the county. Am I right in thinking he had some sort of serious knee injury? Never knew he had gone to Kerry and assumed he had just given it up

heard a rumour "Doot" made the last 40 of the Kerry panel last year, dont know if theres much truth in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 29, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
He's definitely a very talented forward that boy and will maybe help take St John's out of the slump they seem to currently be in.

Antrim to surprise Offaly and win by two...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 29, 2008, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 29, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
He's definitely a very talented forward that boy and will maybe help take St John's out of the slump they seem to currently be in.

Antrim to surprise Offaly and win by two...

I don't think Antrim winning would be a surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 29, 2008, 04:22:20 PM
Sure was it not only the other year they were in the Leinster final AZ?

Offaly have a few handy footballers - not least Niall McNamee. I think it would be a big surprise for Antrim to beat them - but it's not an impossible task.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 29, 2008, 04:26:53 PM
On paper we might have a strong enough team, and lads lilke Niall McNamee, Ciaran McManus, Karol Slattery (injured), Thommo Deehan etc would be useful for many county teams in in Ireland, but games are not played on paper.

Last year was a disaster. Dublin beat us by 5 in a Leinster semi final, and it should have been 25. We were relegated into this Division, and Wicklow knocked us out of the TM Cup (but I wouldn't really count that).

This year the word coming from the camp is that preparations are better, and players are more committed. The win against Carlow in Carlow was a good win, however the struggle past Tipperary in Tullamore last time out was a bit worrying.

Antrim have been flying in the league so far, with to really good wins in Ennis and Aughrim.

Antrim are at home.

If Offaly are fully focussed and fully fired up, and play to their abilities they should win. However, Antrim will be fired up, and are playing well, so anything less than that will probably spell defeat, and I have my doubts about this Offaly team. Hopefully they prove me way wrong, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 29, 2008, 04:42:49 PM
Based on what you say then it's a good test of where either team are at really.

Antrim have a strong 15 out. They'd be stronger with the two McGourtys but through one circumstance or another they're not there. It's still a strong enough team they have out though. I'd maybe like to see Tomas McCann on it but that aside close to best 15.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2008, 01:10:07 PM
No comments on the game?

It was a game that Antrim should have won - they were much the better team for the second half and a few dubious decisions at the end cost them it. Having said that Offaly were robbed of McManus at the start of the second half in one of the most ridiculous sending offs I've ever seen - two very innocuous challenges. He was dominating and his sending off was the reason we were so much the better team second half.

There are some promising signs in that team but that full back line seriously needs sorting out!! That aside with McGourty back the FF line looks good. Terry O'Neill had a massive game for Antrim yesterday as did Scullion (in the half backs but certainly not in the full back line!). Kevin Niblock wins lots of ball but you would maybe sometimes question his decision making - he gets a lot of ball though.

Hopefully we can hold on for promotion now - should have been two points but I hope it shows Jody that Scullion should be in half back and he maybe needs to address his full back line. McLean to come back though and that should help. It maybe highlights now that he was a bit quick to get rid of Colm Brady - not too late to get him back I'd have said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 03, 2008, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 02, 2008, 09:01:40 PM
Tohill reckons Antrim's recent wins are due to Brolly. The emoticon most relevant to his facial expression is  :P
Lyons says he'll not hold his breath. Wish he would, for ages.

:D :D :D

did ye hear the Mc Gourty interview where he said the reason for being dropped from the county squad was due to his committment to a womans team FFS...does he have a clue at all what it takes at the very top. Then Jody comes on and says that the queens womans team was not the reason...it was another reason he was not prepared to discuss. Mc Gourty will catch himself on some day...but by that time age will have caught up with him and his mc county :D career will be over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 03, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Antrim didnt half kick some wides the other night

had enough chances to win 7 games.

i hate the hush amoung supporters that invariably occurs at the end of antrim games--we never go on and fuckin win a tight game

bit of an improvement though to be fair

Scullion is a flying machine but is headless, Terry O'?Neill got through a mountain of work and was brilliant at times in the 2nd half
Convery was not great when he came on and has plyed much better at full back before.
Kev Niblock got a lot of ball but seems afraid to shoot.
Magill scored a few nice points but faded out of the game.
Cunningham needs to contribute more from play

i think it will tight to beat Carlow and Tipp--a couple of early goals against us and we could be goosed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 05, 2008, 01:43:48 PM
trouble in Cargin? or is it a case of being duffed by a good Bellaghy team. who's the new manager there?

maybe Maximus Marillius could give us some insight into it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 05, 2008, 01:53:03 PM
Cargin were beaten by bellaghy alright. New manager is Seamus Birt. But the most interesting thing about the win was that the bellaghy team has half a reserve team on. No Fergal Doc, Diver, Mc Goldrick, two Mc Nallys Paul Diamond, two Browns and still beat Cargin prompting a fairly aggressive discussion in the Cargin dressing room after the game. Shaney Mc Quillian already under pressure in that fairly mad outfit know as Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 05, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
if you look at the other gaa section...this is the local section...there is a thread on Mc G....in it there is alink to his interview...very insightful too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 05, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
seen that thread before, but like Saffron Sam i thought it was about someone else, well that broke up the day christ i didn't hink there was that many people out there that knew kevin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: robertemmet on March 10, 2008, 02:47:26 PM
from Antrim website...

A superb wind-assisted first half from St Louis Ballymena condemned St Patrick's Downpatrick to a second successive Loch an Iuir final defeat in Carryduff yesterday.

Conor McNeill hit two early goals as St Louis raced into a 2-6 to 0-2 lead after 20 minutes.

Captain Dermot McWilliams then added a goal with Padraig Conlon fisting home another three pointer to put the mid Antrim boys in at the interval leading by 4-7 to 0-2.

Matthew hardy hit a Downpatrick goal on the restart, but just when it looked as if a revival was possible, Daniel McCloskey scrambled a fifth Ballymena goal and McNeill completed his hat-trick to ease St Louis over the finishing line.

St Louis : Shane Crossan, Joe Scullion, James Timoney, Aidan McKinley, Peter Shannon, Niall Delargy, Gerard McCorley, Daniel McCloskey 1-0, Michael O'Mullan, Peter Duffin 0-2, Dermot McAleese 0-1, Padraig Conlon 1-0, Connor McNeill 3-1, Dermot McWilliams 1-4, John Cassidy.

St Patrick's : Cathal Arnold, Conor Monan, Declan Turley, Sean Murray, Gavin Morgan, Jack Bell, Anthony Docherty, Deaglan Arnold 0-1, Caolan Heath 0-1, Joshua O'Hare, Rory Mullen, Sean Morgan 0-1, Matthew.Hardy 1-1, David Morgan 0-2, Joe Milligan 0-1.
Subs : Stefan Mason for M Hardy, Paul Gilchrist for S Murray.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 10, 2008, 04:56:45 PM
NO TALK ABOUT ANTRIM BEATING THE DUBS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2008, 09:44:51 PM
Any details on Antrim beating the dubs??

Would have obviously been minus the two Poly boys as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on March 14, 2008, 09:28:24 PM
A st galls half forward line, first start for convery who played very well at full back in the early 2000's.  Deadly fullforward line of left footers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2008, 08:48:57 PM
Antrim Remain on Target


Antrim 0-13  Carlow 0-07



Antrim remained on target, with promotion still in focus from division 4 of the Allianz National Football League, when they retained their unbeaten status, with a 0-13 to 0-07 victory over Carlow, in a rain lashed, and very chilly Casement Park on Saturday evening.

The Saffron's failed to impress in the first period, and in fact they had looked to an exceptional performance from Michael Mc Cann, to ensure they led at the break, 0-07 to 0-04. The mid-fielder had in fact contributed a trio of points from play during the 35 minutes, all of which were delivered right out of the top drawer, and it was only at the intervention of the visitor's net minder, John Brennan that he was denied a 33rd minute goal. C.J. Mc Gourty, and Paddy Cunningham had supplied the other scores, having two points apiece.

Carlow had looked menacing on occasions during the first half, particularly up front where corner forwards, Simon Rea, and Eric Mc Cormick had caused problems.

The second period saw, young Sean Burke join the fray, and the St. Gall's man was to have a big impact, as despite facing the breeze, Antrim retained command. The Saffron's looked much more secure in their rear-guard actions as both Kevin O' Boyle and James Loughrey were to get to grips with the elusive Rea, and Mc Cormick, and the half back line grew in composure, with Justin Crozier, Sean Kelly, and the pace laden Tony Scullion pushing forward with frequency. It was a testament to the second half qualities of Antrim defensive line up that Carlow were to replace four from six in the concluding period with only centre forward, John Murphy, and their best on view J.J. Smith retaining their start berths until conclusion.

Despite facing the elements in the second 35 minutes, Antrim dominated, with 'new boy' Burke impressing, and although the front men failed to capitalise on some excellent build up, it was left to the finishing prowess of Michael Mc Cann, who added another couple of points, as did Sean Burke, with Tomas Mc Cann, and Terry O' Neill completing the total, and secure a six point winning advantage.

Jody Gormley is certain to be pleased with another victory and he is just as certain to be pleased with the personal contributions of man of the match Michael Mc Cann, Justin Crozier, Sean Kelly, Tony Scullion, and second half replacement Sean Burke, who looks one to watch.

Referee Jimmy White (Dun na nGall)

Antrim
John Finucane, James Loughrey, Tony Convery, Kevin O' Boyle, Tony Scullion, Sean Kelly, Justin Crozier (0-01), Michael Mc Cann (0-05), Joe Quinn, Aodhan Gallagher, Kevin Niblock, Terry O' Neill (0-01), Paddy Cunningham (0-02), C.J Mc Gourty (0-02) Tomas Mc Cann (0-01),

Subs, Paul Close for Tony Convery. Sean Burke (0-02) for Kevin Niblock. Eoin O' Neill for Terry O' Neill.

Carlow
John Brennan, James Ryan, John Hayden, Pauric Bambrick, Paul Cashin, Brian Farrell, Richie Synott, Daithi Byrne, Ken Doyle, J.J. Smith (0-04), John Murphy (0-01), Mark Carpenter, Simon Rea (0-01), Brian Carbery (0-01), Eric Mc Cormick.

Subs, Patrick Walsh for Ken Doyle, Evan Doyle for Brian Farrell, Brian Kelly for Simon Rea, Daniel Saint Ledger for Mark Carpenter, Kieran Nolan for Simon Rea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2008, 08:50:35 PM
Antrim Minor Footballers Defeat Louth in Ulster League: Antrim 2.09 Louth 2.04
16 March 2008
Ulster Minor Football League

Antrim 2 - 9  v Louth  2 - 4
@ St Endas GAC on Saturday 15th March 2008

This game was played in damp and misty conditions. Antrim began the game playing against the elements but started strongly going into an early two point lead with scores coming from Fleming and Mc Larnon.

Louth bounced back and their size advantage at midfield began to tell and both teams swapped scores , Antrim's coming from the St Galls pair Dowds and Mc Gowan. Louth took the lead when a misplaced pass allowed Louth in to score the first goal of the game. Antrim continued to press and hit back with their own goal when full forward Fleming finished with a left foot shot into the corner of the Louth net. At half time Antrim held a one point lead 1 - 4 to 1 - 3.

Antrim dominated the second half and further scores from Mc Gowan, Fleming, Dowds, Boyd and Gallagher gave them a comfortable lead. Louth did score a second goal late on but too late to influence the result.

In defence Mc Aleese, Kane, Gallagher and McClean were very strong and in attack Mc Gowan, Dowds and Fleming were always dangerous.


This was a good start for the Antrim minors who now travel to Fermanagh next Saturday. Antrim should be stronger next week as the St Mary's players should be available and some of the injuries should be closer to recovery.

Antrim scorers

Colm Fleming  1 - 3
Marc Mc Gowan 1 - 2
Simon Dowds   0 - 2
Paddy Gallagher  0 - 1
Darron Boyd   0 - 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 17, 2008, 09:05:59 PM
Good win on sat--what do we need to do now to secure promotion? How many games are left and how many do we need to win to secure this?

does anyone have the league table??

O'Neill are you from Tyrone or whats the craic are u a LD man or sumthin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2008, 09:21:40 PM
2 games to go - London and Tipperary both away from home.

Realistically we need to win both.Tipperary have won all the games except Offaly AFAIK.
Offaly have a better score difference than us but we're level on points so we should finish best case 2nd place but that's enough for promotion.

Carlow were very bad. It should have been a good opportunity to rack up a big score but I think a lot of complacency set in and there was a lot of messing around in the forwards due to that. Six points wasn't a true reflection of the game - should have been twelve plus.






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on March 17, 2008, 09:24:27 PM
 Twelve points would still be an understatment as to how bad Carlow were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 17, 2008, 09:49:53 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 18, 2008, 03:12:45 PM
Do Antrim still not have to play Waterford as well as London and Tipp?

Congrats to St Marys on the McClarnon--looked like a real struggle to hold on for the win from the BBC's highlights at halftime in the McCrory.

Will be tough to win the All-Ireland especially given they appear to not have any marquee forwards. You never know with a strong workmanlike team they may well get the two wins that La Salle couldnt a few years back.

Will St Marys go into the McCrory next year or has no decision been made yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2008, 05:01:33 PM
Actually you could be right. I think they've waterford at home.

Good to see an Antrim team winning the mclarnon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 09:48:12 AM
does Antrim have a chance tonight against Down?  strong team, probably the strongest for some years although the Down teams looks strong also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:57:42 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 09:48:12 AM
does Antrim have a chance tonight against Down?  strong team, probably the strongest for some years although the Down teams looks strong also.

Milltown would Eastwoods be doing prices for these games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 19, 2008, 11:37:33 AM
Antrim Name Under 21 Team to Face Down on Wednesday Night in Pairc Esler17 March 2008

1.Benny Marron
2.Darren Harbison
3.Liam Carland
4.Kevin O Boyle
5.Eoin Gill
6.Justin Crozier
7.Gerard Crossey
8.Seamas Mc Closkey
9.Sean Burke
10.Benny Hasson
11.Tomas Mc Cann
12.Niall Mc Keever
13.Conor Murray
14.Conor J Mc Gourty
15.Gerard Mc Aleese
16.Peter Graham
17.Kevin Marron
18.Philip Maguire
19.Paddy Flannagan
20.Aidan Gribbon
21.Micky Joe Cooper
22.Mark Sweeney
23.Michael Turley
24.Paul Gribbin


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2008, 11:55:05 AM
Looks like a strong team but then by all accounts Down are too. If they can get a good handle on McCominskey that would be a big help.

Kevin O'Boyle would need to face the ball if he's marking him. Every time the ball was kicked to his man on saturday night he was looking and the man and not the ball and then couldn' make it to the ball!

Antrim to win by 2.(or get beat by ten! I'll go for the former though...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2008, 11:55:05 AM
Looks like a strong team but then by all accounts Down are too. If they can get a good handle on McCominskey that would be a big help.

Kevin O'Boyle would need to face the ball if he's marking him. Every time the ball was kicked to his man on saturday night he was looking and the man and not the ball and then couldn' make it to the ball!

Antrim to win by 2.(or get beat by ten! I'll go for the former though...)

You were almost right with the latter....... Down 1-17 Antrim 0-8.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2008, 09:52:21 PM
Crap - I hoped I was wrong with the latter. I suppose a lot of the team are underage again next year so that's a plus point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2008, 09:52:21 PM
Crap - I hoped I was wrong with the latter. I suppose a lot of the team are underage again next year so that's a plus point.

I think a team with Mc Gourty, Crozier, Mc Cann etc should be putting up a better show than that though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2008, 10:01:23 PM
Yeah - I thought that too. Just trying to put some positive spin on it...

Burke and Hasson too. A sizeable senior contingent ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 19, 2008, 10:08:43 PM
Bad defeat alrite. was Jody in charge?(not blaming him...just asking)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 19, 2008, 10:31:29 PM
was anyone at it?

i couldnt make it

wot went wrong? who played well/badly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2008, 11:09:57 PM
So I believe Mr Rea has left Chapel Hill and will be plying his trade on another Hill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2008, 12:06:20 AM
No, the first time I got coul feet as he hadn't told the team!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 08:22:25 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 19, 2008, 10:08:43 PM
Bad defeat alrite. was Jody in charge?(not blaming him...just asking)

Yes he was. I shall leave it at that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 08:22:25 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 19, 2008, 10:08:43 PM
Bad defeat alrite. was Jody in charge?(not blaming him...just asking)

Yes he was. I shall leave it at that.

Absolutely, a manager should shoulder all the responsibility. Im sure the players in no way contributed to a 12 point defeat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:15:59 AM
You misunderstand my post. I do not know enough to about the squad's capabilities or its preparation to make any detailed comment or analysis. I simply answered another poster's question. Nothing sinister should be implied from the second part of my post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:15:59 AM
You misunderstand my post. I do not know enough to about the squad's capabilities or its preparation to make any detailed comment or analysis. I simply answered another poster's question. Nothing sinister should be implied from the second part of my post.

Is that Frankie Quinn and Rambo in your avatar?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:15:59 AM
You misunderstand my post. I do not know enough to about the squad's capabilities or its preparation to make any detailed comment or analysis. I simply answered another poster's question. Nothing sinister should be implied from the second part of my post.

Is that Frankie Quinn and Rambo in your avatar?

Sambo, the great Micheal Greenan and some other punter. It was the best picture of Greenan I could find.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:15:59 AM
You misunderstand my post. I do not know enough to about the squad's capabilities or its preparation to make any detailed comment or analysis. I simply answered another poster's question. Nothing sinister should be implied from the second part of my post.

Is that Frankie Quinn and Rambo in your avatar?

Sambo, the great Micheal Greenan and some other punter. It was the best picture of Greenan I could find.

It looks like Frankie Quinn, the current Ulster Hurling development tsar. Once of Gort Na mOna, once of Lamh Dhearg and now residing in Cushendall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2008, 03:09:01 PM
Who cares about Greenan or Quinn--what about our U-21 team last night?? What the hell happened--was anyone at it?  I couldnt make it due to work

Were Down unstoppable?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 20, 2008, 03:16:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 09:15:59 AM
You misunderstand my post. I do not know enough to about the squad's capabilities or its preparation to make any detailed comment or analysis. I simply answered another poster's question. Nothing sinister should be implied from the second part of my post.

Is that Frankie Quinn and Rambo in your avatar?

Sambo, the great Micheal Greenan and some other punter. It was the best picture of Greenan I could find.

It looks like Frankie Quinn, the current Ulster Hurling development tsar. Once of Gort Na mOna, once of Lamh Dhearg and now residing in Cushendall.

You forgot about O'Ds minder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
Aye in fairness Squareball i remember him telling me of his various clubs so there is a good chance i forgot a few, any advance on three?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 20, 2008, 04:03:51 PM
O'D were his first club I think than as they say the rest is history.

Rember him playing many years ago for the minors against Na Finna (Spelling) in Dublin and missing a penalty, long time ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: amallon on March 20, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
Antrim weren't as bad as the score line suggests for much of the first half, until Down got the goal.  The goal seemed to knock the heart out of them.  Down had to work real hard for a lot of the scores the got in the first half and the Antrim defence turned the ball over loads of times.  The problem was in the forwards, they missed too many chances and the Down defence turned the Antrim attack over too many other occasions.  The defence was always under pressure.  The game was up early in the second half and there wasn't much fight left in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 20, 2008, 04:50:11 PM
Antrim started off strong as amallon suggested. turing over downs attacks and crowding out midfiled and making the down players over carry the ball. this worked for about 10minutes then down seemed to drift away picking up points here and there. antrim where in desperate need of a score to keep in touch then just before half time the full back spilled a high ball and downs full forward capitalised. this goal ended the game. antrim came out the second half and started brightly, just like the first half, getting a few scores on the board but then again just like the first half faded out of it and down took control and finished the game off with mccomisky tapping scores over with ease.

apart from crowding out the midfield antrim didnt look like they had a serious game plan.

some very poor performances from the senior members of the team esp young McGourty and young McCann - expected more from him after his performances of late for Jordanstown.

Burke, Croizer and Murray tired hard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2008, 05:15:31 PM
Quote from: amallon on March 20, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
Antrim weren't as bad as the score line suggests for much of the first half, until Down got the goal.  The goal seemed to knock the heart out of them.  Down had to work real hard for a lot of the scores the got in the first half and the Antrim defence turned the ball over loads of times.  The problem was in the forwards, they missed too many chances and the Down defence turned the Antrim attack over too many other occasions.  The defence was always under pressure.  The game was up early in the second half and there wasn't much fight left in Antrim.
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on March 20, 2008, 04:50:11 PM
Antrim started off strong as amallon suggested. turing over downs attacks and crowding out midfiled and making the down players over carry the ball. this worked for about 10minutes then down seemed to drift away picking up points here and there. antrim where in desperate need of a score to keep in touch then just before half time the full back spilled a high ball and downs full forward capitalised. this goal ended the game. antrim came out the second half and started brightly, just like the first half, getting a few scores on the board but then again just like the first half faded out of it and down took control and finished the game off with mccomisky tapping scores over with ease.

apart from crowding out the midfield antrim didnt look like they had a serious game plan.

some very poor performances from the senior members of the team esp young McGourty and young McCann - expected more from him after his performances of late for Jordanstown.

Burke, Croizer and Murray tired hard

thanks for the posts lads

a bit more important than talkin about some fella and the clubs he played for--who cares!!

the important thing is how we perform on the field now and in the future--its worrying that we didnt seem to compete for the whole game last night especially after the shape of our minor team v derry in last years 1st round--granted Derry gor to the AIF but we want to start competing with other counties no matter who they are and it has to start with the youth
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2008, 05:21:23 PM
Gold stop your bloody whining,if the posts are of no interest to you simply ignore them. Just because you are not interested does not extend to the whole board. . . .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
Fully agree Gold.

Last night I think we had 8 senior panelists on the team(Carland, O'Boyle, Crozier, Crossey, Burke, Hasson, McCann and McGourty) if I'm right. From that perspective it is very disappointing. Granted Down may be a good team but a team with those players on it shouldn't be getting beat by that margin.

I'm not sure though that there was much emphasis put on the U21 team. That seems to be a recurring theme in football and hurling in Antrim and one that,IMO, should change.When a boy is scoring 9 points you'd think something should be done to either change his marker or cut of his supply. Sounds like the whole thing was a bit devoid of tactics and preparation. Even at that we should be doing better though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2008, 06:00:58 PM
Yeah i thought with the amount of senior panelists that it would be a good game despite Down being AIMF champions 3 years previous.

Was gutted that i couldnt make it but even more gutted when i heard the result. Especially the 1-8 to 0-1 half time part of it.

Believe the Hastings Cup that was going a few years back may have been beneficial to that age group--its too much to turn up with a group of fellas who aint plyed as a full team and compete

Gutted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 20, 2008, 07:40:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
Fully agree Gold.

Last night I think we had 8 senior panelists on the team(Carland, O'Boyle, Crozier, Crossey, Burke, Hasson, McCann and McGourty) if I'm right. From that perspective it is very disappointing. Granted Down may be a good team but a team with those players on it shouldn't be getting beat by that margin.

I'm not sure though that there was much emphasis put on the U21 team. That seems to be a recurring theme in football and hurling in Antrim and one that,IMO, should change.When a boy is scoring 9 points you'd think something should be done to either change his marker or cut of his supply. Sounds like the whole thing was a bit devoid of tactics and preparation. Even at that we should be doing better though.

I have taken a conscious decision not to criticise the set-up, but it's hard to disagree with any of that, especially the bit in bold.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 21, 2008, 11:44:06 AM
Speaking to a few u21s, they said Jody had no interest in the u21 team at all. he only saw them when the boys trained together with the seniors. Sean Gallagher was more involved with the u21s but Jody got the final say. these young lads got very little game preparation with 3-4 "friendlies". Apparently on the Sunday before the match Jody spoke to the boys giving them a team talk, named the team then he left to go take Bredagh while the boys went out and trained. For me, this says it all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2008, 11:46:29 AM
Lokks like some of the players had no interest in the U-21's either.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wondering on March 22, 2008, 10:21:27 AM
rumours have it that some of the senior boys who were playing u21s were drunk over st patricks day weekend less than a week before the game no wonder we got hammered...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
Where did this rumour orginate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wondering on March 22, 2008, 11:55:18 AM
From other players on the squad!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2008, 12:03:21 PM
There is one player that plays for the U-21's and is on the senior panel that is never out of the Beehive. . .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on March 23, 2008, 11:31:14 AM
If the above said was true about Jody can anyone really say anything about the u21s?

Who here wasn't on the drink on paddys day? Especiallf if he didnt give ashit about the u21s as was previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2008, 11:31:51 PM
Quote from: wondering on March 22, 2008, 10:21:27 AM
rumours have it that some of the senior boys who were playing u21s were drunk over st patricks day weekend less than a week before the game no wonder we got hammered...

Fcuk sake, so what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 26, 2008, 11:39:40 PM
see the footballers travel to Ruislip this weekend

hope we get the win to keep our promotion quest in motion--have London any danger men to watch out for??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 30, 2008, 05:06:49 PM
good result altho 8-4 at half time!

anyone have the tables?

can antrim still not be promoted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 03, 2008, 10:55:30 PM
anyone making the trip to Tipp?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 04, 2008, 05:12:12 PM
Its a long long way....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 06, 2008, 06:06:54 PM
Beat!. :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 06, 2008, 11:32:38 PM
Complacency must have crept in---wud b a disaster 2 get stuck in Div 4 again next year and not get a chance in the qualifiers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 07, 2008, 02:32:48 PM
http://www.abbeycbs.co.uk/antrim/

if your bored in work like me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2008, 04:22:36 PM
Strange one with Gormley deeming CJ Mc Gourty not fit enough for the footballers but he played 60 minutes at midfield for St Galls in the Ulster Hurling League on Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onlooker on April 07, 2008, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 07, 2008, 04:49:25 PM
God knows.
I hear we missed a bucket-full against Tipp.
I was at the game in Ardfinnan yesterday and it is true that Antrim had a lot of wides.  However, as a Tipp supporter, I feel that Tipp were the better team and were comfortable enough in the last 10 minutes or so as Antrim did not look like getting the scores to save the game.  Tipp went in front after a couple of minutes and missed a great chance of a goal shortly after when a close range shot gave Sean McGreevey no chance of saving but went just outside the post.   Tipp never lost the lead and were deserving winners.   What a pity we slipped up against Carlow last week (by one point).  Obviously, I was very glad that Tipp won, but I expected Antrim to be better than they were.  I have no doubt that they will get promotion but can see them struggle in the Ulster Championship.  Looking at the programme before the game, I was struck by the fact that 10 of the Antrim starting 15 came from just 2 clubs.  These clubs were show in Irish as Clann na hEireann and Naomh Gall (I presume that would be Erin's Own and St. Gall's in the English version).  Good though those 2 clubs are, I would have expected a greater spread of clubs on the team.  Would this not be seen as a weakness in the Antrim squad or are there any reasons for this imbalance?.  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2008, 09:25:35 PM
Onlooker st galls are a mile above anything in antrim really and the next closest team is Cargin (erins own) who are a mile above anything else.

Last year's county final was about as one sided as you'll see in a final as Cargin didn't make it.

At present the club scene is relatively poor to be honest though St Galls are as good as most in Ulster.

Creggan showed some promise last year but it's early for them yet. Aside from that I don't really think any of the club teams are of a particularly high standard. I don't mean to be derogatory of them by the way just an observation...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onlooker on April 07, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
I know that St. Gall's are a very good team and have proven themselves over the years, but my point is that a County team with 4 players from St. Gall's and 6 from Cargin will struggle to compete with teams picking from a wider selection of clubs (Armagh, Tyrone & Co.).  Tipp would not have a huge selection of footballers either, but there were 10 clubs represented on the Tipp team yesterday, while the Under 21 team that ran Kerry to 2 points on Saturday also had 10 clubs represented on the starting 15.  It is not a criticism of St. Gall's or Cargin, but until the other clubs in Antirm start providing more players to the county panel, Antrim will be at a serious disadvantage to several of the other Ulster counties.  Anyway, best wishes to Antrim in the Ulster Championship and the qualifiers later in the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2008, 10:26:45 PM
You observations are spot on Onlooker. Same on the County Hurling team. It's hard to know where the cart and where the horse is? Do you bring in a spread of the best players from the clubs from U14 level and work with them up until Senior? In Antrim at the minute we don't appear (stand to be corrected) to have a conveyor from juvenile towards senior intercounty. It is certainly not obvious to the untrained eye and if an attempt at one (through development squads for example) is in place it is obviously not fulfilling it's remit IMO.

The reality is that the best players who are willing to play for Antrim are playing for them at the minute, so the fact that there is very lop sided representations from certain clubs is not really the fault of the County Management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 08, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
Heard today that Jody has been been making a few phone calls dropping boys from the panel:

Liam Carlin
Mark Dougan
Gerard Crossey
Conor Murray

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 08, 2008, 03:57:55 PM
Is it just a case of whittling down the panel or is it more sinister?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 09, 2008, 08:26:54 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on April 08, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
Heard today that Jody has been been making a few phone calls dropping boys from the panel:

Liam Carlin
Mark Dougan
Gerard Crossey
Conor Murray

Should be getting a similar call himself if Antrim lose to Waterford and / or don't get promoted from Div. 4.


Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2008, 03:36:30 PM
I thought Conor Murray did well, in the few chances he was given. It was said on this board that it might be a year too early for him though so, tis probably the case.

'Twas hardly rocket science.

Quote from: Minder on April 07, 2008, 04:22:36 PM
Strange one with Gormley deeming CJ Mc Gourty not fit enough for the footballers but he played 60 minutes at midfield for St Galls in the Ulster Hurling League on Saturday evening.

Strange indeed. Or managerial genius - you decide.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 09, 2008, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on April 08, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
Heard today that Jody has been been making a few phone calls dropping boys from the panel:

Liam Carlin
Mark Dougan
Gerard Crossey
Conor Murray



add Conleth Totten and Michael Pollock to that list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 09, 2008, 02:42:31 PM
Hard to tell. Who is the St. Gall's senior hurling manager anyway?
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Michael Gribben
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 09, 2008, 05:44:02 PM
CJ was fit enough to play a friendly game against rostrevor on Sunday, seems strange that he wasnt able to play in Tipp.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onlooker on April 09, 2008, 06:10:52 PM
I am sure that the Antrim footballers and officials who were in Ardfinnan last Sunday will be shocked to hear that Darrel Darcy, who came on as a sub in the National League game, after playing in the Munster Under 21 Final against Kerry the day before was killed in a car crash yesterday.  A very sad time for his family and team mates and all involved in football in Tipperary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 12, 2008, 05:10:04 PM
see the Minors got tanked today by a superb Tyrone team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 12, 2008, 07:48:01 PM
whats new there  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on April 13, 2008, 01:57:37 PM
Day 1 of the new leagues & already games being called off by clubs with no reference to the CCC. Same old, same old.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 13, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2008, 09:02:03 PM
In fairness, that Tyrone team has tanked every team so far. They probably had their Dungannon players back today too.
Antrim minors had a very comfortable win last week against Donegal.

Yeah but 7-15 to 1-10 in a real tanking--they did have their Hogan Cup players back--but what sort of excuse is that--thats like saying to someone not to hit power-blasters as its not fair!

see St Pauls beat the Johns by 8 and St Bridgids won their first game in Div 1 in L Dhearg by 10--any other results in Div 1 or 2??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 13, 2008, 05:17:26 PM
Portglenone beat Rasharkin by 6 in Div 1
Rasharkin beat Portglenone by 2 in Div 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on April 13, 2008, 07:47:53 PM
I think you will be surprised with the current bunch of minors, tyrone are very highly fancied for the all-ireland! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2008, 10:07:04 PM
St Brigids beat Lamh Dhearg by ten??

What has gone wrong with Lamh Dhearg? Two years ago they brought a county final to extra time. Last year they probably would have got relegated only for Dunloy's success in the hurling.

Don't get me wrong st brigids aren't bad but an experienced side like lamh dhearg should be beating them by a  bit.

Are the results on the county web-site all the matches that were played??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 13, 2008, 11:39:44 PM
St Brigiids won 3-7 --0-5 L Dearg were missing the Herrons

Portglenone and St Pauls won also

Cargin and Galls match was called off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 14, 2008, 02:05:16 PM
Has Ciaran Herron transferred to Kevin Lynches, Dungiven or was that just all smoke?

Most of the results were as expected except the Lamh Dhearg defeat I'd say. You take 3 (2) Herrons out of a team and any team is going to struggle. I beleive Brendan Herron is in Oz and playing some stuff out there. Think he has also turned his hand to Aussies Rules and doing very well at it.

Why was the St Galls/Cargin match called off then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 14, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
Death in Cargin i believe, both the reserve and senior games were called off, which was handy for us as i believe a lot of boys could not make it due stags and weddings the sat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 15, 2008, 10:46:09 PM
Hope Antrim dont blow it at the wkend--but then i wouldnt be too surprised

Anyone know where i can get the club league tables?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 15, 2008, 10:48:17 PM
They are available on the county website on the E-Sport Manager
Go to the Results Link on the left.  Then go to the tables link on the left.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 16, 2008, 10:48:40 PM
Any scandel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 16, 2008, 11:27:03 PM
Sean Burke has walked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 17, 2008, 07:42:26 AM
Burke is still listed on the panel for the Waterford game

1.SEAN MC GREEVEY                  16.JOHN FINNUCANE     
2.JAMES LOUGHERY                    17.EOIN O NEILL
3.ANDY MC CLEAN                      18.PAUL DOHERTY
4.KEVIN O BOYLE                        19.TONY CONVERY
5.TONY SCULLION                       20.C.J. MC GOURTY
6.SEAN KELLY                              21.MICHAEL MAGILL
7.JUSTIN CROZIER                       22.SEAN BURKE
8.JOE QUINN                                23.PAUL CLOSE
9.MICHAEL MC CANN                    24.GAVIN BELL
10.AODHAN GALLAGHER               25.CIARAN CLOSE
11.KEVIN NIBLOCK                      26.KEVIN BRADY
12.TERRY O NEILL                        27.PAUL CONLON
13.TOMAS MC CANN                     
14.BENNY HASSON
15.PADDY CUNNINGHAM

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2008, 08:27:55 AM
maybe Burkey got a call from Sambo&Woody  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 17, 2008, 10:04:24 AM
It would certainly appear that the wheels are coming off.

Attendance at training is certainly dropping off - two boys from the list above didn't manage to make it the other night - no reasons given.

Whilst it would be unthinkable to lose to the Decies, I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility.

hardstation is probably correct though, it seems to be mainly an issue with the milltown men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2008, 10:10:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 17, 2008, 10:04:24 AM
It would certainly appear that the wheels are coming off.

Attendance at training is certainly dropping off - two boys from the list above didn't manage to make it the other night - no reasons given.

Whilst it would be unthinkable to lose to the Decies, I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility.

hardstation is probably correct though, it seems to be mainly an issue with the milltown men.

best run Antrim have had in a while and still the players cannot see the bigger picture....a serious question is there more than 5  antrim footballers  out there playing county football who can see past the lenght of his nose. Just typical Mc Cooey stuff...alot of players who have win nothing outside their own backyard trying to tell a management team who have done it all how they should do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2008, 12:22:50 PM
Good to see Brady back in the panel as this is an area we are very weak in.

Big game against Waterford. Being honest if we lose it we don't deserve to get promoted. Being honest you would like to think we'd win by 6 or 7 but it's very hard to know.

Surprised after the result against Tipp there aren't any/many changes in the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2008, 01:48:28 PM
How would it appear that the wheels are coming off Sam? - they've lost one game, an important one but one game.
No clue why Burke walked but wouldn't have started anyhow...would have been a useful sub.

Agreed that its good that Brady is back but not sure I agree with you imtommygunn about the weakness at corner back. O'Boyle has performed well and Loughrey is as good a man marker as there is out there. Scullion also can move back if required.

Hopefully no nerves creep in on Sunday and affects the team/management - hard not be nervous/slightly full of doubt with the detractors.

Do you go to games Sam? I realise its not become an onrunning joke about your LOVE for Jody but are you a regular attender?
There are certainly issues there, but there are in every county.

Antrim need this win. More than any first round championship win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2008, 01:56:11 PM
Granted I've only seen two games this year Glensman but I, no harm to the fella, would not agree about Kevin O'Boyle. He has one big problem - you watch any balls coming into the forward line and see what he is doing. He is standing facing his man with no visibility of the ball.  It actually has to be seen to be believed. Given he does this though he does well. If he can get that knocked out of him he may get a lot better. If he does that against a top drawer corner forward he will get wiped out.

Loughrey however I like back there. Tony Scullion should never be played in corner back - brilliant half back but poor corner back. The Offaly game illustrated this with first 15 minutes as poor as on the field while the rest of the game he was probably the best player on the pitch when moved out of corner back to half back.

I think we will win alright on Sunday though. It's like I've said to other people - it's a game we gain nothing from. If we win well it was expected. if we win but barely then it will just feed the doubters like Sam and if we get beat then it will really feed people doubters like Sam and Jody Gormley will be castigated again!

Hardstation you use walk outs in the plural sense. Any more than Burke or are you referring to KMcG?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2008, 02:10:12 PM
To be honest I've a feeling you're right on this.

That was the problem with Tony Scullion when he was corner back in the Offaly game too.

It is a disaster waiting to happen if they all mark like that. I think, unlike some others here, that we are making progress. However I am just a little bit concerned that our full back line is a disaster waiting to happen. That's why I'm very happy to see Brady back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2008, 02:11:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2008, 01:59:09 PM
Yes, I was referring to KMcG. However, didn't Chris Kerr walk too, or did I dream that?

Probably not a great example as he would walk out on the Kerry setup if things were not going his way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 02:15:15 PM
Considering he isnt even in the top 2 goalkeepers in his own club its hardly a great loss that Kerr has gone.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 17, 2008, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 17, 2008, 01:56:11 PM
Granted I've only seen two games this year Glensman but I, no harm to the fella, would not agree about Kevin O'Boyle. He has one big problem - you watch any balls coming into the forward line and see what he is doing. He is standing facing his man with no visibility of the ball.  It actually has to be seen to be believed. Given he does this though he does well. If he can get that knocked out of him he may get a lot better. If he does that against a top drawer corner forward he will get wiped out.
Would it be wrong to speculate that they were coached this by the current Antrim management? Last year's championship game against Derry, every one of the defenders were at this.

this is what Jody Gormely and Joe Brolly call "locking down"

::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2008, 02:23:11 PM
Ah, the old "he was shite anyway" attitude.

are you his brother? any man that knows diddly squat about Antrim GAA could tell you he shouldnt be near the county setup. There are numerous better keepers than him in the county, McGreevey and Finucane to start with, Paddy Murray & Brian McCann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
Someone should ask Joe Brolly if he's ever seen a man mark a good corner forward out of a game using this technique called "locking down" because I'd be very very surprised!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2008, 02:56:45 PM
Ok so I was mainly referring to Loughrey about the corner backs - Loughrey, McClean and Brady, solid.
I actually think Scullion has the ability to be a great corner back but agree re the Offaly game and the first 15 mins. He has the engine and the tenacity to be half back but reckon we need a better distrubutor of the ball to compliment Kelly and Crozier in there.

As regards the locking down/man marking where you directly face your man I am completely anti it as well but know that O'Boyle is just doing as told.
Sometimes that might work, when the corner forward is easily annoyed he can be put off his game.
However I'm not dead against a half way house, facing both ball and man for corner backs - half and half (not the best at angles so won't give it a stab in figures). So much of a good corner foward is about the runs he makes and space he gets...any possible way of limiting that is good in my book and if you are able to be aware of where the ball is and watch those runs then you're doing well.
The Gooch is not lightning quick, he's strong but not that strong but its the space he gets by making those runs that sets him apart. You limit his ability to do that or the 1 second head start he has and you're going a long way.

An interesting story to this 'locking down' debate was at the Antrim Kilkenny Tommy Murphy match in Kilkenny last year. I was one of about 7 paying customers (I kid you not). A certain corner back for Antrim was "locking down" his man. His man was a punter with bleached blonde hair and white boots and had clearly been dragged off the soccer field down the road to make up the numbers. Now the ball was nowhere near the Antrim goal for 99.999 per cent of the time so that Kilkenny man spent the whole time p1ssing himself at the Antrim corner back. Even one of the Kilkenny mentors got involved and had a laugh at one stage.

Another point - when Paul Close came on last year v Derry he set about waving his hand in front of the fella he was marking's face. I couldn't actually believe it was happening. The ball was nowhere near them. I thought I was blinded by the sun on the hill but saw it again. If that's what Antrim are at come championship time and Cavan I'll not be impressed.

So I do have issues with some of the tactics etc but FFS it shouldn't be a personal vendetta - its just some here would arguably rather see Antrim lose so that they have ammunition to come back on here.
Regardless if my worst enemy was managing Antrim I wouldn't want them to get beat.

Re WALK OUTS - KMcG will walk out of his own funeral.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2008, 03:34:45 PM
Defenders should be attacking the ball not watching the man, watched the Derry game last year and was embarrassed by the set up with the defender watching the man.

A defender should be reading the game, covering the space in front, attacking the ball like a forward would.

Midfielders look up to play ball in and see a defender in front, he wont play a low ball in and will be forced either to check his pass or attempt to play a high ball in, this then gives most players a 50/50 chance to make up ground to compete for the ball.

If we go Jody's way the defender is on the back foot from the start, the attacker will be reading the game and will make runs when the ball is sent in, the defender needs to turn and then is behind the man and he then has to win possession off his man.

If Jody wanted to keep the score down he should have employed an extra man in defence. Someone who's up for wining dirty ball and has a good engine. And if he's bollixed after 30 minutes take him off and put on a player who can do the same job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2008, 03:42:49 PM
I would agree with a lot of what you say Glensman. Every time there's a slight wee rumour the Jody Gormley personal vendetta starts.

The odd boy here and there walking out is, to me, not that big a deal.Boys have walked out on Derry, walked out on Tyrone etc etc when they have / have had good set-ups. 

I'm not sure about the marking techniques but would like to see that full back line you speak of - Brady, McLean and Loughrey. I don't ,however, agree with you about Tony Scullion. I don't think he's a man marker and he shouldn't be deployed anyway but wing half back as far as I'm concerned. I can see your point about distribution.

Marking using this "lockdown" is just wrong on so many levels you wouldn't know where to start.

Antrim to beat Waterford by 6.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 17, 2008, 04:36:44 PM
was about to say that myself Hardstation. it feels like a day or two before championship. good to see.



Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2008, 03:34:45 PM

If Jody wanted to keep the score down he should have employed an extra man in defence. Someone who’s up for wining dirty ball and has a good engine. And if he’s bollixed after 30 minutes take him off and put on a player who can do the same job


thats all Jody is trying to do, keep the score down as he knows we wont score enough up front
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2008, 07:09:11 PM
If, as it's believed, two players didn't bother to turn up to training, will Jody apply his policy on non-attendance.

I thought Close was blessing yer man last year - one of the funniest sights I've witnessed since Saffron Sam made a move on the 55-year old school secretary several years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 17, 2008, 10:57:21 PM
good aul day for the board surely

any more scandel ?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2008, 11:30:16 PM
Agree about dropping the extra man into defence. That is what he is doing but also agree it has to be a man with a super engine...maybe we have found Tony Scullions calling. Loughrey could be used for this as well.

Think we might be talking at cross purposes Milltown Row...my man is in front of the corner forward as well but watching both play and his man "ye have to have eyes in the back of yer head".
Just you sit 3 yards in front of a classy corner forward. He'll be over the other side of the field playing one twos with the other one and rifling them over the bar.

It actually completely depends on the type of player you're marking but anyhow.

Fire power with Cunningham, CJ, Magill, McCann is arguably as good as its been for a bit??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 18, 2008, 08:08:44 AM
is there not a young fellow marron deputising for mcgreevy for the last couple of league games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 18, 2008, 09:41:18 AM
Well there's one thing that we all agree on, the defence system from last year is crap. Not one poster has said it works. Will Jody use it again this year?

Regarding the first round match, I think we could give Cavan a beating going 15 on 15. they will have improved from the McKenna Cup game but we have a winning mentality at the minute which is strange. And all this talk about players from St Galls having problems with the county is rubbish.

There's more from St    Galls on the panel now than ever before and they are all keen to play this weekend and in the final (provided we beat Waterford)

What date is the Cavan game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
May the 18th.

So hopefully Jody / Joe Brolly will read this board and get rid of the silly defensive system.

Incidentally the Offaly FF John Deighan scored 1-2 on account of this "locking out" tactic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2008, 11:53:55 AM
Yes indeed, an excellent day for the thread. I will answer as many points as possible.

Firstly, re. my alleged dislike of the current manager. This man has walked out on the Antrim senior squad before (when he was offered the Down trainer job), then he walked out on the Down squad when it became clear that Paddy O'Rourke wasn't going to be reappointed. Is he the type of individual who is likely to be able to instil necessary qualities like loyalty and commitment? I would suggest no. Is he likely to be able to convince boys not to book flights for the States, when that is exactly what he did during his own playing career? Again I would suggest no. This is where any perceived dislike may have arisen. I know Jody Gormley and he has always struck me as a quiet, sound man, but I do not think that he is the best man to get the absolute maximum out of this squad.

However, had I been told that at the start of the NFL that a draw in our last game against Waterford would take us up, I would have taken that. I have stated on this thread that not qualifying for this year's TM cup would represent a good season and singled out the Wicklow game as being vitally important. On first glance then, the season to date looks like a success.

But, take a closer look at Antrim's campaign. Rule out London and Kilkenny. Rule out also Wicklow, Clare and Carlow, still suffering the after-effects of expensive managerial appointments. This left only Offaly, Tipp and an improving Waterford. Therefore two wins from these three would guarantee promotion. So far Antrim have played two and won neither. An inability to close out Offaly, despite being two points and a man up with minutes left and a defeat to Tipp when our most dangerous forward wasn't deemed fit enough to play, yet played a full game of hurling the same day.

The campaign whilst generally functional hasn't been the roaring success some on here seem to think that it is. There is unrest in the camp, there are several obvious blunders that Jody Gormley has made that have (or could have) cost us points. Paddy Cunningham not starting in Wicklow, McLean starting whilst injured, McGourty Og not going to Tipp etc, the list goes on. The walk-outs (which, with the names mentioned (Burke and Kerr) generally don't annoy me); the non-attendance at training in the week before the biggest game of the year to date certainly would suggest all is not well. The buck stops with the management here.

I fully expect us to beat Waterford - it is a dangerous game, but if we can't win at home against the Decies then we have no right to be promoted.

Turning to the championship, I don't think we will beat Cavan, despite the fact both teams are likely to be in Division 3 by the end of the week. I was much more confident that we would beat them in '03 - we had some semblance of basic tactics ("Lump here in to big Darren"). A half-forward line that will consist of Gallagher, Niblock and O'Neill is not going to cut the mustard in the senior championship. Whilst the defence is almost as good as we will get, we need cover at FB for when McLean gets injured (he should be at CHB anyway). Midfield again is fine, but lacking in cover. Although Cavan have been relegated and there is obvious discontent there with Keoghan, they should have little fear coming to Casement in May.

As for the other snide comments:

Max – it's just a pity that the McCooey's you refer to don't get to play Bellaghy every week then. Or Glenullin for that matter.

Glensman – it doesn't matter how many games I go to. My opinion would be no more or no less valid if I had been to all the games or none of them. % Attendance is not directly proportional to common sense debating. Besides, why does a person calling himself / herself 'glensman' feel he / she is in a better position than me to comment on the state of Antrim football? Name the last glensman who actually played football for Antrim. 

Tommygunn – begrudgery is the wrong word. Realism would be a much more appropriate choice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 18, 2008, 03:20:09 PM
Woh Sam...I merely asked you if you were a regular attender. How was that snide in any way? I may have been insinuating you might not be, but snide?!
I never once said that attendance was linked to sensible debate, I just wanted to see exactly what type of supporter you were. One that harps from the wings or one that is actually there regardless.

We are all Glensmen. My name comes from the previous board and from other boards when there was but a few Antrim posters. We are from the county of the 9 glens my friend.
I myself am not from the Glens themselves.
Arguably players such as Martin Mullholland, Ruairi O Loan, Sean P OHagan might take issue with your sentiment given Glenravel are probably the only club from that region.

I have never suggested that I am in a better position than anyone to comment on the state of Antrim football. I speak as much sh1te as the next man.
My downfall might be that I am a little bit too optimistic now and again. My optimism does not not sit well with launching pretty persitent sometimes personal attacks on the management. There are others who do the same to Sambo and Woody and I say the same things to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LanceArmstrong on April 18, 2008, 03:46:50 PM
Anything the corner backs do for Antrim, they are asked to do by Jody.  Watching Kevin play for his club, he attacks the ball like most corner backs, but at the the county he reverts to facing the player.  Both strategies have been highly successful for him.  This year,  he has only conceded 0-2 from play against an intercounty forward.  What more do you want from a corner-back? ??? Surely his method of marking has to be justified.  Gaelic football is an evolving games, with huge changes from how the game was 30years. . .this is just another one of those changes.#

Kevin for an all-star

I love the man ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mattockranger on April 18, 2008, 03:49:31 PM
hows st johns limbering up this season??
is there champo prospects poor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mattockranger on April 18, 2008, 04:02:37 PM
Cheers hardstation ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 18, 2008, 04:31:47 PM
No chance hardstation.

They Glens are calling to you as well, they just don't shout so loud for the McCooeys...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
QuoteBesides, why does a person calling himself / herself 'glensman' feel he / she is in a better position than me to comment on the state of Antrim football?

Think that is a bit uncalled for Sam.

So who in your opinion Sam would do the job for Antrim?

With regard to your HF comment I would agree. What I would hope to see happen the HF line is McCann move to CHF, Hasson to midfield and then Magill/Niblock to FF. Currently not enough ball players in there. The remainder to stay the same though.

With regard to progress well I think you're at a glass half empty scenario there. If you recall the Offaly game and the 2 point lead Antrim held then you may also recall that diabolical refereeing decisions gave Offaly two easy frees to equalise so you can not , in my opinion, criticise for not holding onto a lead. (The referee actually screwed Offaly with the most innocuous sending off ever in the first place but balanced it up with the last two frees). There has been one bad result - Tipperary. Don't get me wrong it was a truly crap result but we can still get out of division four.

Also there was more to the moving to Down thing. He didn't move directly. Do I not recall the fact that he organised a fitness test at the poly and the county board wouldn't pay or am I mistaken? It was after this it kicked off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
So who in your opinion Sam would do the job for Antrim?

Kevin Madden, well respected within Antrim, a proven record and the ability to deal with difficult individuals like the fabulous Baker boys.


Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Also there was more to the moving to Down thing. He didn't move directly. Do I not recall the fact that he organised a fitness test at the poly and the county board wouldn't pay or am I mistaken? It was after this it kicked off.

I think you may be referring to Paul Murphy. Although, I too could be mistaken.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 18, 2008, 10:19:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2008, 05:29:37 PM
Is it true that St. Enda's have been fcuked out of the underage leagues? Heard this today.
Anyone know anything about it?

Yes its true.
entered North Antrim leagues and South Antrim agreed to this as long as SA games came first.
St Enda's then had 2 matches in the one day, North and South. phoned SA to say they couldn't field, then later rang to say they could play the game because the NA game was off.
South Antrim then made a decision to throw St Enda's out as they did not stick to the agreement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
Kevin Madden, well respected within Antrim, a proven record and the ability to deal with difficult individuals like the fabulous Baker boys.


You're full of mad-dogs' shit SS. What is Madden's inter-county proven record? I once scored 18 penalties in a row in one hour. Should I be Tyrone's new penalty taker?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 19, 2008, 12:10:31 PM
Please take this as a seperate SNIDE comment but what the f@ck Sam?
Kevin Madden?

Well respected...yes. A great scoring forward in his day.

Proved track record...??? Some good work with Glenuillin, maybe a few other teams but come on.

Seems like a nice guy and all but increasingly it appears you need really good pedigree to do anything as a county manager. Which is fair enough. In a couple of years maybe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2008, 07:33:31 PM
He's getting old. I've reported him to the mods and suggest others do too. I don't want to see his tragic demise played out on the board. They do legal poison in Switzerland don't they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2008, 11:25:12 AM
Interesting comments sam...

How in the name of God do you come to the conclusion that Kevun Madden has a proven track record?

Also if you could be mistaken on the Paul Murphy thing then that could mean that the good part of the basis for your opinion on Jody Gormley is wrong no? It's interesting you become so snide on something that you could be mistaken on.

Then again - two people didn't turn up at training during the week so obviously falling apart ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 20, 2008, 12:10:58 PM
I would love to hear how sam see's Madden as having a proven track record...it must be the fact that he has been a manager of a club team for three months. Was sam that intoxicated when he made that post he did not know that this is Maddens first year to manage a senior club team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on April 20, 2008, 04:05:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 20, 2008, 12:17:20 PM
Anyway...............
Die dog or shite the licence today. I've been to chapel, said all the prayers.
We can't lose......can we?!

(http://www.doriegreenspan.com/dorie_greenspan/images/2007/07/02/champ_on_ice_2.jpg)

They have, shocking to lose to Waterford at home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on April 20, 2008, 04:36:11 PM
What in an under a jesus happened?

How did Tipperary do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 20, 2008, 04:58:57 PM
:-[ beat by waterford at home, we dont deserve to go up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 20, 2008, 05:51:55 PM
I had heard he threw the head up, must have been bullshit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 20, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
Still cant really believe this, gutted, how in under god did the wheels come off so badly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 20, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
I know it was a bit of a shock that we lost but we are in division four for a reason,and it is not for producing consistent high level football. We just are not very good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 20, 2008, 07:33:59 PM
I will make no comment on today's game. I will leave that up to some of the other less snide posters on the board.

However, a few other points:

Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 25, 2008, 10:19:14 PM
If we lose, J. Gormley to be shot with a ball of his own shite and then sacked. Replaced by Brian White.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
Kevin Madden, well respected within Antrim, a proven record and the ability to deal with difficult individuals like the fabulous Baker boys.

What has changed, sam?

Whitey's not interested.

Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
Kevin Madden, well respected within Antrim, a proven record and the ability to deal with difficult individuals like the fabulous Baker boys.


You're full of mad-dogs' shit SS. What is Madden's inter-county proven record? I once scored 18 penalties in a row in one hour. Should I be Tyrone's new penalty taker?

Quote from: Glensman on April 19, 2008, 12:10:31 PM
Please take this as a seperate SNIDE comment but what the f@ck Sam?
Kevin Madden?

Well respected...yes. A great scoring forward in his day.

Proved track record...??? Some good work with Glenuillin, maybe a few other teams but come on.

Seems like a nice guy and all but increasingly it appears you need really good pedigree to do anything as a county manager. Which is fair enough. In a couple of years maybe.


Quote from: imtommygunn on April 20, 2008, 11:25:12 AM
Interesting comments sam...

How in the name of God do you come to the conclusion that Kevun Madden has a proven track record?

Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 20, 2008, 12:10:58 PM
I would love to hear how sam see's Madden as having a proven track record...it must be the fact that he has been a manager of a club team for three months. Was sam that intoxicated when he made that post he did not know that this is Maddens first year to manage a senior club team.

Nice and simple boys. Do you think that Glenullin would have won (or got close to) a championship with the Baker in charge? Those in the know are of the belief that Glenullin's title is Madden's title. Madden may not have been manager by title, but that was all. Look too at the clamour from the Derry boys to get Cassidy in as their manager - and him bested by Madden. Compare too Madden's CV with that of the current Antrim manager. Is my proposal that objectionable?

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 20, 2008, 11:25:12 AM
Also if you could be mistaken on the Paul Murphy thing then that could mean that the good part of the basis for your opinion on Jody Gormley is wrong no? It's interesting you become so snide on something that you could be mistaken on.

I'm not mistaken. I preferred not to nail home your mistake and leave your dignity as tommygunn intact, rather than you appearing as tommytank.

I'll leave it up to the f**king experts here. I'm off for a pint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2008, 09:50:28 PM
Didn't make it to the game. Gees that's one of the worst results for Antrim footballers I can remember. There was a text message sent in saying that Jody Gormley's tactics, or lack of, lost us the game. Thought that could have been Sam though. Anyone care to give a report on the game and where we went wrong?

Any hope for the Cavan game?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2008, 11:16:50 PM
Not to worry. I hear Madden finished the Times crossword today. With that track record, he'll nail the Antrim conundrum.

Seriously poor and disheartening result. Antrim football has a habit of kicking you in the knackers when hopes are up. I've withdrawn my application for Antrimship. I know a blade in Fermanagh. That's the place for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on April 20, 2008, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 20, 2008, 07:33:59 PM


Nice and simple boys. Do you think that Glenullin would have won (or got close to) a championship with the Baker in charge? Those in the know are of the belief that Glenullin's title is Madden's title. Madden may not have been manager by title, but that was all. Look too at the clamour from the Derry boys to get Cassidy in as their manager - and him bested by Madden. Compare too Madden's CV with that of the current Antrim manager. Is my proposal that objectionable?


I concur. More than the vast majority of the above is fact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 20, 2008, 11:39:08 PM
Nightmare.

Antrim football ALWAYS kicks you in the knackers when you dare to believe

as i said after the Offaly game--i hate the hush that invariably follows the crowd when leaving Casement after an Antrim game--perenial losers --it sickens me

sickening to have to travel to Ruislip and Nowlan Park again next year--f**king load of balls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on April 21, 2008, 10:12:03 AM
Boys,

I am mainly a hurling man but i have watched my share and some others share too of antrim footballers.

I have to ask myself when I come into contact with the members of the county squad where their superior attitude comes from?

They havent won a meaningful games in a lifetime and yet they walk around as if they are all stars I think a bit of tough love is needed. I the st galls boys want to play inter county then they are treated like everyone else.

Time to get back to basics and get a committed squad played basic winning football and forget all this crap about tactics and running to the papers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 21, 2008, 10:25:36 AM
Holyful f**k.  Where on earth do we go from here??  I've been following Antrim for the best part of 30 years and I don't think I've ever been so low as I am now.  Pay for play/grants/allowable expenses???  These cnuts should be paying us!!!  We haven't a prayer against Cavan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 21, 2008, 10:44:32 AM
so will the boys all be going states side this summer? tickets bought already i'm sure. Cavan must be laughing now. what did Jody say after the match? did the lads take it for granted.

everyone is on here saying jody was right that he sticks to his guns and principles but surely now he has serious egg on his face.

for the Cavan game i'd say we'd be lucky to fill the stand that day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 21, 2008, 12:48:35 PM
Complete disbelief.

Not sure what to say. Probably better saying nothing.

Madden in for the Tommy Murphy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 21, 2008, 12:52:28 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 21, 2008, 12:48:35 PM
Complete disbelief.

Not sure what to say. Probably better saying nothing.

Madden in for the Tommy Murphy.

yes - to play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 22, 2008, 12:04:26 AM
We will bounce back ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2008, 12:10:54 AM
Maybe Jody has been distracted lately by his imminent family arrival.

You cannot base his tenure on one horrendous game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 22, 2008, 08:23:58 AM
the Tommy Murphy cup final was horrendous, the Tipp game was horrendous and finally the Waterford game at home were a point was all we needed to get out of div 4 the basement league and we still could not get it, was horrendous!!!!! I am amazed as to why people in Antrim have ideas that we can compete in football.

Maybe if we stopped playing football and concentrated on Hurling and put the resources that we wasted on football into hurling, we might make inroads..... I doubt it as well...

It's hard to be optimistic coming from Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2008, 08:40:17 AM
I hear that there was a terrible attendance at the game on Sunday. Must be shite for the players to put in all the effort and run out to an echo'y, empty Casement park. If the passion isn't there in the crowd, then it'll never come out of the team. Not enough antrim people care enough (including the players) about Antrim footballers. What are you gonna do? It's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on April 22, 2008, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 22, 2008, 08:40:17 AM
I hear that there was a terrible attendance at the game on Sunday. Must be shite for the players to put in all the effort and run out to an echo'y, empty Casement park. If the passion isn't there in the crowd, then it'll never come out of the team. Not enough antrim people care enough (including the players) about Antrim footballers. What are you gonna do? It's just the way it is.


Well, with the credit crunch, rising food prices, rising oil / petrol prices, imminent water charges etc, not many people are gonna want to fork out £8 to watch last Sunday's performance, are they? I hear the Ulster Championship match is going to be live on the TV, that'll not get many going to Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2008, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 22, 2008, 08:40:17 AM
I hear that there was a terrible attendance at the game on Sunday. Must be shite for the players to put in all the effort and run out to an echo'y, empty Casement park. If the passion isn't there in the crowd, then it'll never come out of the team. Not enough antrim people care enough (including the players) about Antrim footballers. What are you gonna do? It's just the way it is.

Well the players should be well used to poor attendances in Casement. Whatever happened to being self motivated? Did they run out on Sunday, see an empty stand and think "i couldnt be bothered my h*le". Are the players that precious they need 20,000 people roaring them on? What happens in away matches when there are no Antrim supporters? I wonder did they ever think "we have been training since October and this is our chance to achieve our goal for the season"............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 22, 2008, 10:33:25 AM
could they not play the league games in Corrigan Park or maybe Toome
i know cargin dont have a stand but it would an Antrim/Waterford or Antrim/Tipp crowd
hurling matches have been held outside casement in recent years, dunloy and ballycastle i think, so would this not be an idea for next season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2008, 11:15:16 AM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on April 22, 2008, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 22, 2008, 08:40:17 AM
I hear that there was a terrible attendance at the game on Sunday. Must be shite for the players to put in all the effort and run out to an echo'y, empty Casement park. If the passion isn't there in the crowd, then it'll never come out of the team. Not enough antrim people care enough (including the players) about Antrim footballers. What are you gonna do? It's just the way it is.


Well, with the credit crunch, rising food prices, rising oil / petrol prices, imminent water charges etc, not many people are gonna want to fork out £8 to watch last Sunday's performance, are they? I hear the Ulster Championship match is going to be live on the TV, that'll not get many going to Casement.

Other than using it to go back and allow you to watch past football matches tmwwt, do you do anything else with that time machine of yours :)

Minder....not saying that they shouldn't be self motivated, but there surely must come a time when as a player, you wonder if what you are doing is worth it if so few appreciate the efforts you put in. Passionate supporters motivate players to push on and achieve things through being more commited to "a cause". There is no "cause" for Antrim players worth talking about because so few outside the wire really care what they get up to. Of course in an ideal world it shouldn't matter but the reality is that it becomes tedious in the GAA when you are busting a gut when so few are supporting your efforts. Are you dismissing this reality?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onlooker on April 22, 2008, 11:31:15 AM
As a Tipperary supporter, I was very surprised, though obviously pleased that Antrim lost at home to Waterford thus allowing Tipp to win promotion and a place in the qualifiers.  A few weeks ago it did not seem possible that anyone other than Offaly or Antrim would be promoted.  Having seen Antrim play Tipp and thinking about the Waterford result, I believe that Antrim felt that they were certain for promotion before they played those games.   They played poorly against Tipp and I was more than surprised to read last week that they were playing an unchanged team against Waterford.   Waterford should have beaten Tipp in Dungarvan and if there had been anything at stake for them, I could have seen them beat Antrim, but after losing to Tipp by an injury time goal, when they were 2 points ahead it was hard to see them lifting their game a week later in Casement Park.  Having beaten Wicklow (away) in the first game in the league and then drawn with Offaly in the top of the table match, Antrim should certainly have been able to win promotion, but they seemed to lose form or focus in the last 2 matches.  Another season in Div. 4 is  no big deal for Tipp or Antrim, but missing out on the qualifiers for this year is a serious blow and very unfair to Antrim, Waterford & co.   I still think that Antrim will give Cavan plenty of it in the Ulster Championship and might surprise a lot of people, including their own fans!!!.  I agree with you, theskull1 and the lack of support applies as much to the Tipperary footballers as it does to Antrim.  Very small crowds are disheartening for players, but they just have to do it for themselves and the genuine followers.   As Declan Browne said in his speech after captaining Tipp to win the Tommy Murphy Cup in 2005 " many thanks to our supporters, sure we know them all by name".  Many decent teams have poor support.  It is a pity, but that is the way it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 22, 2008, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 22, 2008, 12:10:54 AM
Maybe Jody has been distracted lately by his imminent family arrival.

You cannot base his tenure on one horrendous game.

me thinks the event happened last week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 23, 2008, 09:05:30 AM
i see paddy Cunningham scored 1-9 in last nights extra time final for UUJ, fair play till ya.

could have done with that scoring on Sunday but ah well, maybe next year for the mighty Saffrons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 23, 2008, 03:40:57 PM
What's keeping young McGourty out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 23, 2008, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 23, 2008, 03:45:33 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on April 23, 2008, 03:40:57 PM
What's keeping young McGourty out?
Good question....

Jesus what Fermanagh wouldn't give for a few great high scoring forwards like that (him and Cunningham), yet look where Antrim are. All in the head, something's badly wrong somewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2008, 07:30:39 PM
Heard hardly enough to make a team turned up for training last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 23, 2008, 11:45:43 PM
Why does that not surprise any1







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 24, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Was there not a full round of games last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on April 24, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
yeah think most clubs had a game last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on April 27, 2008, 01:14:07 AM
For the second time in three years, Waterford senior footballers have foiled an Ulster side from gaining promotion to Division 3 of the Allianz National League and in the process record a first ever win north of the border.

Two years ago almost to the very day it was Cavan who underestimated the growing strength of Decies football at Breffni Park, when unheralded Waterford recorded a dramatic two points victory and delayed the home county's widely anticipated elevation to Division 3 by twelve months.

Waterford inflicted a similar fate on Antrim in their own back yard last weekend by 1-8 to 0-8. Of course it was another case of what might have been, for if only the Portláirge men hadn't gifted an invaluable two points at home seven days earlier to Tipperary.

The net outcome of this Casement Park success means that Tipp, having beaten Wicklow the same afternoon, now join Offaly in the higher League echelons next season.

While the only goal of a hard fought encounter decided this Belfast showdown, the eventual victory was no more than John Kiely's men. Obliged to line out without the services of John Phelan, who was obliged to cry off due to a close family bereavement, and their team captain Gary Hurney who was not available for the trip to the North, this was quite an accomplishment by John Kiely's men, and there wasn't even one minute element of fluke about the result.

Indeed, on the run of play and possession, Waterford would not have been flattered had they won by a half-dozen points or more - an opinion well endorsed by the disappointed Antrim team officials afterwards.

Here again was proof aplenty of the growing improvement in Waterford football - winning five out of their eight group matches represents the best ever recorded by a Decies team and offers a bright augury for the future, and especially for next month's first round championship showdown with Clare at Cusack Park.


Level three times


The absences of Phelan and Hurney, meant that the Waterford selectors had to make eleventh hour alterations to their original starting fifteen, with Eamonn Walsh coming into the defence, and Dermot Casey taking over in the middle of the field where he proceeded to play a proverbial blinder and emerged as the winners' 'man of the match'.

It was point for point during an excellent opening half, with Patrick Cunningham edging the home side in front at the break by a margin of 0-7 to 0-4, with Connie Power's accuracy from frees in particular keeping the visitors very much in the reckoning throughout the opening 35 minutes.

However, the Decies took over completely on the restart and a chain of superlative points from Tony Grey, Eddie Rockett and Patrick Hurney emphatically put John Kiely's side very much in the ascendancy, and it was a muted large home crowd that watched a goal to win any match from Waterford's Maurice O'Gorman in the 51st minute as he sallied out of defence, leaving a number of Ulster men in his wake, before dispatching an unstoppable shot to the back of the Antrim net.

The homesters' second half performance is best illustrated by the fact that they only managed to add a solitary point to their half time total, and it coming very late in the game.

So all in all a terrific Waterford performance in which all eighteen players involved played their full part in fashioning a historic victory - none more prominently perhaps than Maurice and Thomas O'Gorman, Shane Briggs, Justin Walsh, Mick Ahearne, Patrick Hurney, Liam Lawlor and Dermot Casey.


Scorers


Waterford: Maurice O'Gorman (1-0), Connie Power 0-3, Patrick Hurney 0-2, Tony Grey , Liam Lawlor, and Eddie Rockett 0-1 each. Antrim: Paddy Cunningham 0-4, Sean Kelly 0-2, E.O'Neill and C.Close 0-1 each.


Teams


Waterford: Tom Wall (Bonmahon), Maurice O'Gorman (Nire), Jason Seward (Clashmore), Justin Walsh (Nire), Eddie Rockett (Portlaw), Shane Briggs (Captain, Ballinacourty), Eamonn Walsh (Ballinameela), Dermot Casey (Bonmahon), Mick Ahearne (Kill), Tony Grey (Stradbally), Andy Hubbard (Newtown), Patrick Hurney (Ballinacourty), Thomas O'Gorman (Nire), Liam Lawlor (Nire), Connie Power (Nire). Subs: Brian Wall for M.Ahearne (inj.), Mark Ferncombe (Ballinacourty) for C.Power, Stephen Cunningham (Stradbally) for T.Grey.

Antrim: S. McGreevy, J. Loughrey, A. McLean, P. Doherty, T. Scullion, S. Kelly, J. Crozier, J. Quinn, A. Gallagher, K. Niblock, T. O'Neill, T. McCann, M. McCann, M. Magill, P. Cunningham. Subs: E. O'Neill for K. Niblock, S. Burke for J. Quinn, C. Close for T. McCann, K. Boyle for P. Doherty, B. Hasson for S. Kelly.

Referee: C. McReynolds (Down).



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 04, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
any reports from the  today's club games?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 04, 2008, 06:30:47 PM
footballs very quiet these days  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 04, 2008, 06:34:06 PM
todays results so far..

Antrim Football Div 1 - 2008

Lamh Dhearg  3-11 1-4 St. Johns     
Rasharkin  0-7 2-11 Cargin   
St. Brigids  1-8 2-9 Portglenone   
St. Pauls  2-8 0-9 Gort Na Mona     


Antrim Football Div 2 - 2008

Glenavy  2-9 1-14 Aghagallon 
All Saints  0-7 3-10 Moneyglass 
Sarsfields  0-11 1-10 Rossa 
Dunloy  2-10 1-8 St. Endas 
Davitts  2-9 0-7 Glenravel 

Antrim Football Div 3 - 2008
 
Gort Na Mona 2 3-7 0-3 St. Galls 2
Aldergrove  2-13 0-7 Mc Dermotts     
Cargin 2 3-10 2-13 Ahoghill 

Antrim Football Div 4 - 2008

Eire Og  0-9 2-16 St. Agnes 
Rasharkin 2 3-13 0-1 St. Malachys 
St. Pauls 2 2-13 1-6 St. Endas 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 06, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
did antrim football die with that Deise Defeat?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 07, 2008, 11:18:09 AM
how many will we lose to the states this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 07, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 07, 2008, 11:18:09 AM
how many will we lose to the states this year?

None, particularly after a defeat by Cavan pmsl.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 07, 2008, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2008, 07:30:39 PM
Heard hardly enough to make a team turned up for training last night.

Yes down to 14 I believe. And with 4 sitting the session out, a fine (and useful) game of five aside ensued.

One particular missing punter absented himself from training for the 23rd time, allegedly for a ninth time without giving a reason.

Not looking good for the Cavan game.

But then it's all my fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 07, 2008, 01:46:17 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 07, 2008, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2008, 07:30:39 PM
Heard hardly enough to make a team turned up for training last night.

Yes down to 14 I believe. And with 4 sitting the session out, a fine (and useful) game of five aside ensued.

One particular missing punter absented himself from training for the 23rd time, allegedly for a ninth time without giving a reason.

Not looking good for the Cavan game.

But then it's all my fault.

if this is accurate...its makes you wonder how Gromley was not able to faciliate Mr Mc Gourty. Lots of questions...as usual for Antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2008, 09:45:03 PM
Gromley (like this name) is a genius if you ask me.

Low expectations and all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2008, 10:02:16 PM
Definitely.

Antrim 0-13 Cavan 0-11
Antrim 1-11 Armagh 0-13
Antrim 0-14 Down 0-13
Antrim 1-15 Derry 0-7
Antrim 3-13 Westmeath 1-10
Antrim 5-17 Galway 0-12
Antrim 6-22 Kerry 1-10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 07, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 07, 2008, 10:02:16 PM
Definitely.

Antrim 0-13 Cavan 0-11
Antrim 1-11 Armagh 0-13
Antrim 0-14 Down 0-13
Antrim 1-15 Derry 0-7
Antrim 3-13 Westmeath 1-10
Antrim 5-17 Galway 0-12
Antrim 6-22 Kerry 1-10

What is the sport? Kite flying?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 08, 2008, 09:00:30 AM
Rumours of a bit of boxing in Cargin Lamh Dhearg match lat night, with at least three cards dished out, including one current county player.

Could Sheeny be working his magic already?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
St Brigids win in Corrigan - good win for them. Looks like Rasharkin and St Johns are early candidates for the drop in that division. Good win for Portglenone over Creggan.

Moneyglass look like the front runners in division 2.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2008, 07:47:55 PM
What's this about Paddy Cunningham getting the tripe kicked out of him in Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 08, 2008, 08:46:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2008, 08:34:21 PM
Ah Jaysus, we're away to Cargin."

good times!

St Brigid's are going well and by all accounts should be 4 from 4 after dominating the tight games v Portglen one and Creggan but cannot score with the proverbial fiver in a .....house

Johnnies fallin apart along with the Lahms according to Monday's A'Town News

Anyone sent off in Lovely Toomebridge?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 09, 2008, 08:12:57 AM
Had I been able to type my original post wold have said
QuoteRumours of a bit of boxing in Cargin Lamh Dhearg match lat night, with at least red three cards dished out, including one current county player.

In fact it was four, Cunningham and Kevin Murray of Hannahstown and two odd looking wee boyos from Toomebridge. It appears that Cargin targetted specific players and this approach seems to have worked. Is it time to tell them to feck off to Derry?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 09, 2008, 12:10:35 PM
What bloody need would Cargin have to be throwing in the dirt against LD...with all due respect this is a game they should be winning at a canter.
It would appear that over the years they have not learned when to throw in the dirt and when not...its just a blanket policy.

It will be interesting when they hit St Galls in the championship if they use the dirt...St Galls are a bit too classy for that.

SS - sure they are all odd looking from Toome anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 09, 2008, 10:59:30 PM
Portglenone 1-10   0-14 Glenavy

St. Pauls  2-18   1-04 Dunloy 

Moneyglass  2-13     0-14 Gort Na Mona 

3 surprising results.
What happened Dunloy? Must still be celebrating the u21 hurling. Did they not have a minor team 2years ago that reached the minor "final" ?
And what happened Gort Na Mona, I thought they would have been challenging to keep their title.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on May 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
rasharkin apparently didnt field against aldergrove? so where did that result come from, or have i been told wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 09, 2008, 11:35:51 PM
maybe it was the same ref who but in a result on wednesday night

aldergrove 1-7 0-0 gort na mona  :D

which now has been changed to not played

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 11, 2008, 11:51:24 PM
Further information on the Centre of Excellence including a Video Flythrough:

http://antrim.gaa.ie/centre-of-excellence/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2008, 02:57:09 PM
£20 into the stand on Sunday  >:( £19 into the "uncovered stand", i think watching on the TV is a more attractive proposition......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 12, 2008, 03:02:00 PM
can the dual players play their hurling club games on Wed. night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 12, 2008, 03:29:28 PM
Holy sh1t...someone joked about £19 before hand. I didn't beleive them.
That is a complete and utter disgrace.
£12 is bad enough but I would pay it. Its championship and all but how they can possibly try and justify that amount.

Milltown Row...I would guess no.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 12, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 12, 2008, 02:57:09 PM
£20 into the stand on Sunday  >:( £19 into the "uncovered stand", i think watching on the TV is a more attractive proposition......

f**k sake that is a complete joke. £19 to sit on those slabs of concrete and £20 to sit in a stand that smells of piss - f**k that I think i will watch it in the house.

Who sets the price for these games. Is is Ulster council or does antrim have any input?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 12, 2008, 11:20:17 PM
if antrim had beaten Tipp or W'ford we would have been in Div 3--we then would have had a chance to win the 2games necessary to stay in that Div next year--this would have been for the first time ever(f**k Down in 2000)---this didnt happen as we all know

i could not give a f**k if we beat Cavan before gettin bait by Armagh

i could not give a flying f**k if Antrim pulled their Senior(thats a joke) Football team out of league and championship for good

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on May 12, 2008, 11:30:00 PM
jees thats steep for an antrim game! might be acceptable if antrim where all ireland champs to charge somewhere near that for first game of the season, but 20 noop is ridiculous! gaa have scored an own blow here, will give the GAA- grab all association camp more to shout about! was reading pat spillane in sunday world at the weekend he was tlking about gaelic games will be in a atate of recession like the economy, it soon will be if thats the bloody price for an antrim game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 08:54:00 AM
well after the tripe they have sereved up this year £0.00 and a free burger
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2008, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 08:54:00 AM
well after the tripe they have sereved up this year £0.00 and a free burger

Correct Milltown, the entrance fee does not reflect the product on the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 13, 2008, 11:45:15 AM
Does anyone know if there is a student rate for the match.
I will definately not be going to a GAA match this year if it is £19 in, unless its croke park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 13, 2008, 12:01:17 PM
Milltown was even going to charge admission (with burgers thrown in) last Sunday. He thought there was a crowd of thousands going to see St. Gall's v St. Agnes, but then came the swift disappointment that accompanied the realisation that they were all going to Cemetary Sunday next door.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 01:12:48 PM
that was a quote 'themanwhowasntthere' said to me that very day, but i'd no burgers all this good weather they've been sold out for ages. what game is live on Rte this sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2008, 01:14:36 PM
You mean you won't be watching the Antrim game and cheering on your beloved Cavan on BBC?

i'll dander up to casement after half time, thats when it will hot up ;D

but in all honesty i'll be cheering on Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 13, 2008, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2008, 01:14:36 PM
You mean you won't be watching the Antrim game and cheering on your beloved Cavan on BBC?

i'll dander up to casement after half time, thats when it will hot up ;D

but in all honesty i'll be cheering on Antrim

While giving the ref a bit of the old verbals !!!   :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 13, 2008, 10:46:47 PM
well any word on the team? heard it was being named tonight at camsement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 13, 2008, 11:05:06 PM
£8 into Stand- £5 into rest would be fair in my opinion

Div 3 would have been real progress--we are far too light up front

im sickened by the league debacle--will take a lot to lift this feeling

playin kilkenny and london again next year?? for f**k sake i finally give up--i was a blind optimist for years--never again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 13, 2008, 11:13:18 PM
what you wanna know hardstation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 13, 2008, 11:24:03 PM
im sure you could name the team yourself, wouldnt be very hard.

no Quinn or Hasson  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on May 13, 2008, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 13, 2008, 11:45:15 AM
Does anyone know if there is a student rate for the match.
I will definately not be going to a GAA match this year if it is £19 in, unless its croke park.

Croke Park - £19? You'll not be at any games this year then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2008, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2008, 11:25:27 PM
I heard "Pretty much the same with Aidso replacing Joe".

Jesus wept!  Predicition reassessment time!!

Cavan 0-17
Antrim 1-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2008, 11:06:25 AM
Gormley names attack-minded side for Cavan clash

14 May 2008

Antrim manager Jody Gormley has named his starting team ahead of his side's Ulster SFC preliminary clash with Cavan this Sunday in Casement Park.

The side features some strong scoring potential with regular Saffron score-getters CJ McGourty and Ciaran Close being joined in the full-forward line by Paddy Cunningham who kicked 1-9 for UUJ in the Sigerson Cup final last month.

Michael McCann, who hit 1-18 for the Saffrons during their league campaign, lines out at centre field alongside Aodhan Gallagher, who comes in for the injured Joe Quinn.

Kevin Niblock will assume the centre-forward role after overcoming a knee injury while Justin Crozier and Andy McClean line-out in the central defensive roles behind him for the Breffni County's visit.

Tony Scullion and team captain Sean Kelly make up the half-back line with Crozier and Sean McGreevy is named between the posts ahead of John Finucane.

Antrim (SFC v Cavan) - S McGreevy; K O'Boyle, A McClean, J Loughery; T Scullion, J Crozier, S Kelly; A Gallagher, M McCann; P Close, K Niblock, T McCann; P Cunningham, CJ McGourty, C Close

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 14, 2008, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2008, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2008, 11:25:27 PM
I heard "Pretty much the same with Aidso replacing Joe".

Jesus wept!  Predicition reassessment time!!

Cavan 0-17
Antrim 1-4

If we've named an "attack minded side", will we not get more than 1-4 ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2008, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on May 14, 2008, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 14, 2008, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2008, 11:25:27 PM
I heard "Pretty much the same with Aidso replacing Joe".

Jesus wept!  Predicition reassessment time!!

Cavan 0-17
Antrim 1-4

If we've named an "attack minded side", will we not get more than 1-4 ??

Tongue in cheek, I just don't think Aidso Gallagher is an inter county standard midfielder, so plenty of pressure on the backs??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 14, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
What's the betting on a 0-0 draw & it going to penalties, after a replay ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2008, 11:41:22 AM
The only thing with big joe being out is that we dont have to watch one of those rampaging runs runs followed up by an almighty boot, missing the catch net and endangering supporters near the andytown road!

In all seriousness there are some talented footballers in that team, its time some questions we asked of them as inter county footballers. Time to stand up and show what they are made of and if they get tanked then time for a total rethink on this set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 14, 2008, 11:44:26 AM
Is Michael Magill still on the panel. There have been indications on here from some that he has been missing a few trainings/not getting gold stars from Jody.
If he is on the panel he should start plain and simple.
Him flanked by CJ and Cunnigham/Close.

P Close didn't see too much league action. Methinks he might not be playing where lined out. Wander has he been practising waving his hand in front of McCabe's face...McCabe would eat him and then have breakfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2008, 11:52:22 AM
That's a small full forward line - hopefully they'll not be resorting to high balls in!

I'd have expected Terry O'Neill in there on work rate alone. HF line looks shaky enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2008, 11:54:59 AM
P close will not be playing in the half forward line I think that is an almost cert!
His work rate it undoubted around the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2008, 12:05:11 PM
I'd guess he'd be the man to play in front of the danger man Johnston. I'd assume that tactic will be used. I noticed them cavan boys on another thread stating that any time Johnston was double marked they were beat. Maybe Jody is reading the board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2008, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2008, 11:52:22 AM
That's a small full forward line - hopefully they'll not be resorting to high balls in!

I'd have expected Terry O'Neill in there on work rate alone. HF line looks shaky enough.

cant believe O'Neill didn't make it. he must be gutted after being one of antrims most consistant and committed players over the league campaign
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 14, 2008, 01:01:22 PM
Seems like he was sacrificed for the system.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 14, 2008, 01:37:52 PM
Apologies for the Breffni man on your thread but just wondering if your Minors are any good cos I couldn't give much of a f**k about the seniors. You'd be doing us a favour by beating us, and I usually condemn such words. Any route to open the gate for Keoghan to leave is worth taking. If some of the Cavan players aren't household names lads don't worry, we haven't seen some of them this year either. I think the socialists are to blame. Trying to share the grant money as evenly as possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 14, 2008, 01:57:26 PM
Anyone see any betting on this match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 14, 2008, 02:20:09 PM
Sure jody always brings two half forwards back to play round halfback / midfield area.  He uses that tactic for every team he ever manages an it rarely works!  Kevin Niblock is just not good enough and im sure as usual he will be the first man substituted!  Cant see antrim beatin cavan but i think it will be close.  Canin 1-14 Antrim 1-10.

Hope antrim win in the minors although as usual some quality minors not up with the team, happens every year unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2008, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2008, 11:52:22 AM
That's a small full forward line - hopefully they'll not be resorting to high balls in!

I'd have expected Terry O'Neill in there on work rate alone. HF line looks shaky enough.

cant believe O'Neill didn't make it. he must be gutted after being one of antrims most consistant and committed players over the league campaign

Slowly, Jody may be losing the plot. I'm led to believe Terry was told his services were not required due to a missed training session (or 2). Terry always struck me as a hard-working dedicated Antrim Gael.

Very odd ship he's sailing. However, if he applies the same 'punishment' to all players then I'd credit him for it. If not, then I could see the ginger adonis kicked down the Andytown Rd towards the Bushes not before long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2008, 03:34:02 PM
he'll hardly stay around for the tommy cooper cup ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 15, 2008, 01:58:39 PM
Antrim Minor team manager Sean Fleming has names his team to play Cavan in Sunday's Ulster Minor Football Championship at Casement Park.

No. Name (As Gaelige) Name (In English) Club (As Gaelige)
1 Conchur Ó Doibhilin Conor Devlin Naomh Eanna
2 Seamas Ó Laibheartaigh James Laverty Clann na hEireann
3 Marcas Mac Giolla Iosa Mark McAleese Sean Mac Stibhin 
4 Pól Mac Seain Paul Johnston Naomh Treasa
5 Padraig Ó Gallchoir Patrick Gallagher Naomh Seosamh
6 Sean Fuinse Sean Finch                 Ui Donnabhain Rosa
7 Deasun Mac Giolla Eain Dessie McClean Gort na Mona
8 Marcas Mac Gabhann Marc McGowan Naomh Gall
9 Sean Pól Mac Cana John Paul McCann Clann na hEireann
10 Maitiu Mag Eochain   Matthew McGuckin Clann na hEireann
11 Colm Phleimeann Colm Fleming Ui Donnabhain Rosa
12 Doiminic Ó Gallchoir Dominic Gallagher Naomh Seosamh
13 Criostoir Ó Luachrain Christopher Loughran Padraig Sairseil
14 Siomon Ó Duda Simon Dowds Naomh Gall
15 Diarmuid Mac an Bheatha      Dermot McVeigh Gort na Mona
16 Mairtin Ó Muireagain    Martin Morgan Naomh Eanna
17 Odhran Mac Giolla Earnain          Odhran McLarnon Ciceaim Creagain
18 Conchur Ó hOsain Conor Hasson Naomh Mhuire
19 Mairtin Mac Seoin Martin Jones Ciceaim Ard Eoin
20 Proinsias Ó Caiside Francis Cassidy Sean Mac Stibhin
21 Peadar Ó hEoghain    Peter Owens Naomh Gall
22 Diarmuid Ó Coinne    Diarmuid Quinn Naomh Mhuire
23 Niall Mac an Lia      Niall McAlea Padraig Sairseil
24 Micheal Ó Maoileoin Michael Malone Naomh Brid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 15, 2008, 02:02:32 PM
1.SEAN MC GREEVEY
2.KEVIN O BOYLE
3.ANDREW MC CLEAN
4.JAMES LOUGHERY
5.TONY SCULLION
6.JUSTIN CROZIER
7.SEAN KELLY
8.AODHAN GALLAGHER
9.MICHAEL MC CANN
10.TOMAS MC CANN
11.KEVIN NIBLOCK
12.PAUL CLOSE
13.PADDY CUNNINGHAM
14.CONNOR JOHN MC GOURTY
5.KIERAN CLOSE
16.JOHN FINUCANE
17.TERRY O NEILL
18.EOIN O NEILL
19.MICHAEL MAGILL
20.SEAN BURKE
21.COLIN BRADY
22.GAVIN BELL  - hardly kicked a ball all year with injury
23.TONY CONVERY
24.PAUL CONLON - hardly kicked a ball all year with injury
25.PAUL DOHERTY - injured
26.KEVIN BRADY - injured/ hardly kicked a ball all year
27.BENNY HASSON - sick
28.JOE QUIN - injured


not much options on sunday for changes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 15, 2008, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 14, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2008, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2008, 11:52:22 AM
That's a small full forward line - hopefully they'll not be resorting to high balls in!

I'd have expected Terry O'Neill in there on work rate alone. HF line looks shaky enough.

cant believe O'Neill didn't make it. he must be gutted after being one of antrims most consistant and committed players over the league campaign

Slowly, Jody may be losing the plot. I'm led to believe Terry was told his services were not required due to a missed training session (or 2). Terry always struck me as a hard-working dedicated Antrim Gael.

Very odd ship he's sailing. However, if he applies the same 'punishment' to all players then I'd credit him for it. If not, then I could see the ginger adonis kicked down the Andytown Rd towards the Bushes not before long.

I'm told that he absented himself from no sessions and he was actually present for the two in question but unable to train. Two is also a long way short of the current squad record of 24. And the Trillick trickster had to inform him by phone, rather than an oul face to face conversation.

Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 15, 2008, 02:02:32 PM
1.SEAN MC GREEVEY
2.KEVIN O BOYLE
3.ANDREW MC CLEAN
4.JAMES LOUGHERY
5.TONY SCULLION
6.JUSTIN CROZIER
7.SEAN KELLY
8.AODHAN GALLAGHER
9.MICHAEL MC CANN
10.TOMAS MC CANN
11.KEVIN NIBLOCK
12.PAUL CLOSE
13.PADDY CUNNINGHAM
14.CONNOR JOHN MC GOURTY
5.KIERAN CLOSE
16.JOHN FINUCANE
17.TERRY O NEILL
18.EOIN O NEILL
19.MICHAEL MAGILL
20.SEAN BURKE
21.COLIN BRADY
22.GAVIN BELL  - hardly kicked a ball all year with injury
23.TONY CONVERY
24.PAUL CONLON - hardly kicked a ball all year with injury
25.PAUL DOHERTY - injured
26.KEVIN BRADY - injured/ hardly kicked a ball all year
27.BENNY HASSON - sick
28.JOE QUIN - injured


not much options on sunday for changes

I can see myself, hardstation and ONeill (in a Micky Rea from the Hill to the Glen type transfer) finishing the game as the full forward line.

I also note into today's IN that the Jodster feels it is the schools to blame - sure there's no MacRory football played in Antrim.  Not too much played in the Abbey after Christmas either Jody. He will also have noted the fact that three different Belfast schools have appeared in the last three McLarnon finals.

I have nothing further to add at the juncture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2008, 08:10:08 PM
Hard to sit back and read the slow and sorry demise of Lamh Dhearg's Paul Buchanan, played out in the public forum.

This week's Gaelic Life is probably the straw that broke the camel's back and hopefully he'll be strong and seek help before it's too late. I phoned the journalist who sat through the ordeal and he confirms the Hannahstown former great asked for his name to be spelt that way, declared he was a St John's man and was convinced a 'Paddy Campbell' was turning out for the Saffrons this weekend. 

Prayers will be said at St Joesph's Church, Hannahstown this Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 16, 2008, 08:21:37 PM
Who's Paul Buchanan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
Wise up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 16, 2008, 08:28:06 PM
I'm being serious!!!!! PM me if ya don't wanna say, ive this weeks GL but in work here but havent got chance to look at it yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2008, 08:34:10 PM
Buchanan is an institution. He singly-handedly took a Belfast school to an All-Ireland final 2 years ago. He single-handedly took Lamh Dhearg to their only county title in the early 90s. He single-handedly was probably responsible for Antrim reaching the minor final a couple of years ago. His demise is also understandable. They teetered on the brink of relegation last year and with the trauma of Paddy Campbell Cunningham's courting by the big Belfast club, things have been rough up around the Crematorium.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 16, 2008, 08:54:00 PM
Is there a write up in the GL this week? What has happened to him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2008, 09:05:52 PM
Not sure yet. Might be some kind of madness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 16, 2008, 09:08:32 PM
I saw that. Johnnies man eh? One of a number of mistakes in Gaelic life. Picture of Sean Burke as they rate Andy McClean....

The Gaelic Life is a joke, they always have the wrong photos of players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
To be fair, there's still good reading in it. Sometimes the captions are the fault of some blade.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2008, 08:17:47 AM
The Red Adair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 18, 2008, 11:49:52 PM
next year lads, next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 19, 2008, 08:50:09 AM
1.SEAN MC GREEVEY, did well was unlucky with the goal
2.KEVIN O BOYLE, was rubbish he was doing the waving in the face of his man the whole game, don't think he touched ball
3.ANDREW MC CLEAN, won the first ball and competed with McCabe most of the game, out of position for the goal but played well for most part
4.JAMES LOUGHERY, his man scored 9 points, says it all this is were we lost the game you can't play on his shoulder there should have been a man in front low ball went into him every time, Cavans game plan seemed to be hit Johnston and it worked
5.TONY SCULLION, that lad has serious speed but every run came to a disastrous pass or mistake or a wide
6.JUSTIN CROZIER, played well was quiet, has had more impact in other games I've seen him, think his man scored three points
7.SEAN KELLY, played well enough looked small compared to the Cavan players
8.AODHAN GALLAGHER, lost in midfield did not win too much ball
9.MICHAEL MC CANN, played well, but would have better used on the half forward line
10.TOMAS MC CANN, good player had good game
11.KEVIN NIBLOCK, Kevin had a good game kicked a nice point but should have scored a couple more, a lot of players were off loading the ball when the shot was on
12.PAUL CLOSE, not in the game, battled hard but had no real input
13.PADDY CUNNINGHAM, took the frees and led off the ball for CJ's goal not much else though
14.CONNOR JOHN MC GOURTY, did well when in possession scored a great point and managed one off his right boot, more ball in and he'd have scored more
15.KIERAN CLOSE, scored a great point but not much else

19.MICHAEL MAGILL, played well when he came on, should have started but I believe he was hurling training that morning for the count team

Over all I think Cavan had more in their locker, we had to work real hard for our scores in the second half and Cavan managed to just go straight up the field after we scored to score themselves.

Also why was Malachy playing in front of the 30 supporters at the stand side instead of the 7000 supporters on the cheap seats?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 19, 2008, 09:00:17 AM
I honestly have to say that was the most inepth performance i have seen in a long time.

where were the tactics to prevent seanie johnston ruling the roost?
where were the tactics to get our two scoring forwards on the ball more?

and for the love of god please someone tell me how tony scullion finished that game?
i have watched him in club football and county games and i have yet to see him do anything constructive in either
if your idea of county football is getting the ball and running with it to you kick it wide or lose possession then he is your man
is there no one to tell him to stop running or off load the ball?

time for a change - jody out - not normally up for ousting managers but this is def needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 19, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
makes you wonder why jody got rid of the likes of Conor Murray. antrim needed a player like Murray to come on, like Magill who can win his own ball.

how many boys will play in the TM?

hope thats jody finished
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 19, 2008, 12:31:29 PM
playwiththewind

if he was any sort at all he would go now and give some a rattle at the TM

I agree that he isnt all to blame and that the players too often escape criticism. But anyone who watched T Scullion for 70 minutes and didnt either speak to him or give him the sheppards hook IMO needs their head looked.

Anyone pull any positives from yesterdays debacle?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 19, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 19, 2008, 12:31:29 PM
Anyone pull any positives from yesterdays debacle?

decent turnout :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mattockranger on May 19, 2008, 02:09:47 PM

surely tony convery could have done just an adequate job as McClean!

McClean could have been used more wisely on Johnstone and loughrey using one of his best attribute speed to sweep in front of the cavans two dangermen or vice versa

great quality in that antrim side would't be so hard on yourselves.........
someone should should come in and manage the team with a bit status and grab that squad by the scruff and get them to start believing and stop UNDER-ACHIEVING

firstly ending the bullshit by getting kevin mac back a half forward of his quality yesterday was badly needed he could have won yous the game yesterday

Outsider looking in excuse me if i touched on a few already discussed topics!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on May 19, 2008, 04:47:32 PM
another awful performance, where did we go to second half, wat did kevin o boyle do all game apart form waving his hands in front of his mans face, andy mcclean wasnt effective on mccabe, shud have ben subsituted for convery at least, how many shots did tony scullion have and not one score  form them. the two mccanns and cj where the only ones who can hold there head high a bit, as well as magill when he came on. paddy hands was totally missing second half and can someone please tell me why aodhan gallagher is anywhere near a county team i have seen him represent antrim many times and the man is not inter county standard, did nutin in midfield yday, on the ball maybe three times and then was missing as per usual, loughry started well on johnston but the boy is classact.

antrim need to face some real facts were not progressing at all, no matter how many people try and put a spin on it. still early championship exit after the first round, division 4 and tommy murphy seems to be antrims acceptable level. what has our suposedly good coach in jody gormley done for us, he can talk about professionalism and trying to change mindset of antrim but its not happening while he pursists with the same rubbish players like gallagher.

yous might think im being too harsh, but im really losing all belief and willingness to support the county footballers, because its the same rubbish yr after year and i am one who has supported antrim all my life and coming from a majorly derry supported family feel every right to be peeved off. cavan where there for the taking again antrim fails to step up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 20, 2008, 09:40:53 PM
I seen interview in Irish Star today with CJ & how when comes to winning big matches Antrim always seem to fail. He says that the best players in the county arent available. He said that there is one super player who wont play cos he's been harshly treated by County board, that Micko Herron is with the hurlers & that Kevin would get on most county teams. Who is this super player?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 21, 2008, 10:43:15 AM
Minor Football Championship

Ardoyne  1-2 4-16 Glenavy 
St. Pauls  1-4 2-11 Moneyglass
St. Johns  6-13 1-10 Aldergrove 
Creggan Kickhams  1-13 0-7 St. Endas 
St. Teresas  2-6 2-15 Rasharkin 
St. Brigids  2-8 0-9 Gort Na Mona 
All Saints  0-1 0-0 Aghagallon    this cant be the real result
Lamh Dhearg  0-8 2-10 Cargin 
Davitts  - - Rossa  O Donnells  - Davits conceded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 11:26:38 AM
Gorts big defeat for them, St. Brigids seem to be the team, Johnnies knocked in 6 goals!!!! birth certificates i hope were checked ;D

the south west teams are certainly on the up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 21, 2008, 01:53:59 PM
OK

after another crushing defeat in the first round.

i think we are in agreement that jodys time is over

who is out there who could change the fortunes of this county set up?

I will throw my hat in the ring now and say that i dont feel that kevin madden is the man for the job at the moment. I know he is a good coach and if he could be involved somewhere in the staff then by all means, but i think we need to approach someone who is going to be above all the inter club bickering and get them off the back pages and on to the pitch.

any names?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 02:30:30 PM
Kevin McGourty!! I'm sure after the Clonduff girls are finished, he's no club action so he has free time and it wont distrupt his inter county hurling, they train different nights.

He will give Antrim a bigger profile also, he can play a bit of football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 21, 2008, 03:21:08 PM
Milltown..even more time for Kevin as he isnt on county Hurling panel anymore. He wasnt on the panel named in that Irish News supplement last week & was hasnt been at training recently.

Give him the job!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 21, 2008, 03:32:17 PM
That would be quite funny to see how many players would actually turn out for him.

He would soon have a little taste of his own medicine then.

Would nearly be worth it just to see his reaction to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GerryFromDerry on May 21, 2008, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2008, 04:12:32 PM
I propose Jesus Christ from the Holyland area of Belfast. Son of Joe and Mary Christ. Jesus played his football with St.Malachy's and performed many miracles for the men in yellow and black.
He once cured Lazarus McParland in a game against Ardoyne Kickhams. Lazarus took a nasty blow to the temple from a man swinging a hammer. All thought he was dead and got on with the fight but Jesus had other ideas. He approached Lazarus with caution, grabbed him by the collar and gently whispered, "Get up you lapping bastard ya". Lazarus rose and emptied the Ardoyne full back. To this day, when Lazarus' sister, Martha, meets Jesus in the street, she screams "Sweet Jesus". It is thought that this is due to Jesus flashing his willy at her.
Another miracle that he often performed was a favourite of his team mates. Turning water into cider. His abilty to do this landed him a job in the Rose and Crown Bar. Jesus is totally opposed to the new water charges.
Always very kind to his mother and can often be seen dandering across the river to Dunnes to pick up her messages. He says, "it ruins ma buckin' gutties though".

Jesus played his last game for St.Malachy's against St.John's in Cherryvale. Jesus was selected as goalkeeper and let in 6 howlers. At the end of the game, his angry team mates nailed him to the goal posts. He vowed never to play again. He was asked to manage St.Malachy's senior team. He accepted.
In his managerial career, Jesus has managed 3 wins (2 against St.Gall's reserves who failed to field on both occasions, claiming that St.Malachy's are a bunch of nut cases and the other in hard fought battle against Yash Armstrong's Rossa). St. Malachy's have only ever been beaten twice under Jesus Christ but have had 49 matches abandoned with the points being awarded to the other teams.

It is time for the people of Antrim to put Jesus Christ in charge of the county team. In his own words, "BELIEVE".

;D ;D ;D Brilliant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 21, 2008, 04:19:54 PM
Very funny :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wolfe Kevin Toner on May 21, 2008, 05:01:22 PM
Every Bar would be after him not just the rose and crown if he could do that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu on May 21, 2008, 05:48:27 PM
Sure what would you know about football?  ;)

Quote from: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 02:30:30 PM
Kevin McGourty!! I'm sure after the Clonduff girls are finished, he's no club action so he has free time and it wont distrupt his inter county hurling, they train different nights.

He will give Antrim a bigger profile also, he can play a bit of football
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Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
4 Galls men walked of the panel it seems, Terry O'Neill, Gallgaher, CJ, and Sean Kelly.

Bigger fish to fry, Cargin awaits. i'd say Cargin are slight fav at the minute.
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Post by: saffron sam2 on May 22, 2008, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
4 Galls men walked of the panel it seems, Terry O'Neill, Gallgaher, CJ, and Sean Kelly.

Bigger fish to fry, Cargin awaits. i'd say Cargin are slight fav at the minute.

And there in a nutshell sums up so much of what is wrong with Antrim football. Still Terry O'Neill and Gallgaher won't be overly missed and McGourty was in the states this time last year.

Good luck against Cargin. Youse deserve it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 22, 2008, 08:59:55 AM

Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
4 Galls men walked of the panel it seems, Terry O'Neill, Gallgaher, CJ, and Sean Kelly.

Bigger fish to fry, Cargin awaits. i'd say Cargin are slight fav at the minute.

what about casements in the first round ?
i know what happened in the last 2 finals against them but first round matches are usually different
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Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 22, 2008, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
4 Galls men walked of the panel it seems, Terry O'Neill, Gallgaher, CJ, and Sean Kelly.

Bigger fish to fry, Cargin awaits. i'd say Cargin are slight fav at the minute.

And there in a nutshell sums up so much of what is wrong with Antrim football. Still Terry O'Neill and Gallgaher won't be overly missed and McGourty was in the states this time last year.

Good luck against Cargin. Youse deserve it.

i thought you had some sense Sam, Antrim football has been shite for years, 4 footballers walking off the panel wont make a difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on May 22, 2008, 09:38:26 AM
I wouldnt say these four represent whats wrong with antrim football, I think you'll find they are four who actually show whats right with it, with regards commitment etc. But they give the county there all for the last prob 7 months and it came to nothing, so now its time to go back and give something to there club. What would they be training for with county, to play kilkenny again? dont know how anyone could get motivated for that, now there determined to win something with there club, who they say train harder than the county anyway!! Maybe thats whats wrong with the county, but to blame players who dont want to play in a joke of a competition thats getting scraped next year is a bit unfair   :-\.   

The man that could turn this county around, if its possible is John Rafferty. Theres no way any team of his would have conceded as many scores as antrim did.

Casements will be a tough test for us in the 1st round, could be a banana skin
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Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 09:44:56 AM
Are any of the players going to seek their fortune in the U.S.A. ?
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Post by: NAG on May 22, 2008, 09:45:32 AM
Im not sure about these players walking away its not normally something that I like to see from anyone involved in a panel like this.
However I have to say that IMO the county panel should be scrapped now for the season and a man should be brought in to watch the clubs games over the next few weeks and he should pick a team from these clubs games to represent the county in the TM cup.

To be honest I dont think they could do any worse than the spineless performance we witnessed at the weekend.

No expense bringing these players together for training for a pointless competition and maybe a chance for a fresh pair of eyes to look over the undoubted talent in the county.

IMO we need a strict disciplenarian to come in and drill some determination into these players. They may have trained often but from that performance on sunday I dont think it was focused in any way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 09:50:37 AM
i doubt any of the players are going to the States
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Post by: FermGael on May 22, 2008, 10:02:03 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 22, 2008, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
4 Galls men walked of the panel it seems, Terry O'Neill, Gallgaher, CJ, and Sean Kelly.

Bigger fish to fry, Cargin awaits. i'd say Cargin are slight fav at the minute.

And there in a nutshell sums up so much of what is wrong with Antrim football. Still Terry O'Neill and Gallgaher won't be overly missed and McGourty was in the states this time last year.

Good luck against Cargin. Youse deserve it.
Lads as a fermanagh man living in Antrim, Saffron Sam has hit it the nail on the head.  Antrim footballers do not have the right to treat the TM cup with distain.
If you look at my own county, we one 1 All Ireland B and lost 1 back in the early to mid ninties. This was were Fermanagh began to BELIEVE in themselves.  After this we got promotion to division 3 and then to division 2 (or whatever they were called back then).  You have to start somewhere.  There were proud Fermanagh men back then too and i am sure a few believed that the competition was beneath them but they still played and won it.  From that small start, players began to believe in themselves and subsequently we have grown to be at least a worry to the "bigger" counties when they play us.  If fermanagh can do it, with only 20 clubs then any county can do.
P.S the one thing i feel preventing the long term development of Antrim football is the failure of any of the schools to play in the "A" grade college's competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 22, 2008, 11:30:44 AM
So these four have walked off the Antrim panel, who cares?  It's not like they're quitting Kerry, the Dubs or Tyrone!!  If they don't want to play for the county fair enough, it's an amateur game and no one can force them to play.  I thought Gallagher had walked off the panel at 3:44pm on Sunday anyway!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on May 22, 2008, 11:57:24 AM
I'm near sure there was more than 4 that left the pane!!
It will maybe give other guys a chance to get county experience against weaker counties.
the fact is even last year in the run up to the TM cup there was only 7 or 8 at trainings as club became every players priority. so for these guys to pull out of the panel, i dont think is a big deal as im sure more will follow. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 22, 2008, 12:08:49 PM
Milltown raver

can i clarify that you said experience against weaker counties?

where in under god do we get off calling anyone weaker than us, at least these players had the bottle to come out and say it.

I maintain scrap the county team for now, no training pick a team for the games and get them played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 22, 2008, 12:23:04 PM
Fermgeal is right, Antrim wont start challenging for honours at senior grade until they sort their underage setup out. Given the size and population of the county it is worrying that they have no school playing A grade football! Antrim need to get someone with experience and know how to look after minor or even U16 football. At the minute there does not seem to be any pride amongst the senior players and the fact that players often drop off the panel shows that many of the players do not realise how big of an honour it is to represent their county! This pride needs to be instilled in young players from an early age. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on May 22, 2008, 12:47:51 PM
Fair point Nag  ???   but the likes of kilkenny and london are seriously S**t.

Think your right, back to the clubs, and start from scratch looking for potential players.
I've never seen Jody in Milltown!!!
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Post by: NAG on May 22, 2008, 01:02:59 PM
I never actually seen him at a club game and I would be at most of the big games and some of the crap games but with maybe a couple of potential players.

Im not slating him and saying he never goes, but i dont think there would be anything wrong with casting the net a bit wider. Anyway back to the clubs and let them work away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 01:35:10 PM
SS is close to the mark there on his cryptic analysis of what ails Antrim football. I was asked on a Monday morning by a brother of a famous footballer what would I suggest as the way forward for Antrim. I was unable to answer that question without insulting the Antrim brethren in attendance.

Jody Gormley was almost there in terms of his ethos concerning non-committment etc. However, I think it'll take someone with a bit more authority and presence to see it through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on May 22, 2008, 02:17:32 PM
I would say YES these boys will be back playing next year, and i'm sure they will be as committed as ever. I personal think they've been too honest, but maybe it will highlight the joke, that is our county teams preparation for this competition. These four lads of whom I have no great love for, as Milltown row will tell ya, never stop training they will train prob harder in the next 3 months with there club than they have in the last 6 with the county, so why should they commit to a shambles of a setup where you arent guaranteed more than 10 at a session, esp as ch'ship approaches more boys will drift back to club. they've give there all and come up short. Rem the week after the waterford game there was 10 at training, the four people that are being slated here, were there. At least they've had the guts to stand up and say what they thought, lets see how many real good training sessions the county has in the next few months
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Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 22, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
can understand why the boys have decided to leave, but it doesnt say much when your captain leaves. Expect more from him.

what about Brady, Niblock and McLean?
cant see the likes of Magill hanging around either

who will replace these boys?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2008, 03:04:40 PM
sure there is loads of footballers in Antrim we've 6 leagues!!!!!! this Sunday there most be at least 800 players on show for the county to have a look at. people on complaining about Naomh Gall having too many footballers on the county team ya can't win.

have a look at the lower leagues your bound to pick up a cracker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on May 22, 2008, 06:03:30 PM
best news ive heard, is about gallagher leaving! shame about kelly, meant to be antrim diehard and bring player commitment to a new level, aye right! yous leave when antrim needs yous most. disappointed with mcgourty! still, life goes on without them, hope young burkey gets a chance, as well as hasson for midfield!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
There's an awful lot of criticism of Gallagher. If some other boys had even half the work rate of Gallagher then we'd be in a much better position.

Who said about St Galls having too many players on the team - sure Cargin had more...

Couldn't see Portglenone even challenging st galls - remember last year's final? Don't get me wrong Portglenone could be the third best team in the county however there's a massive gap between Cargin St Galls and everyone else - massive. Cargin's indiscipline is the only thing that let's them get beat by anyone but St Galls. St Galls don't have that problem.

We have county players in the top 3 divsions. Anything beneath that is to a large extent second teams so hardly going to happen.

Thought Terry O'Neill was very harshly dropped against Cavan after being one of the better players in the league so maybe not totally surprised about him. Not surprised about McGourty. I am a bit surprised about Kelly and Gallagher though but these two boys have put in a lot over the last few years so can't completely begrudge them.

I'd like to see more of a fit Kieran Close, Tomas McCann, Benny Hasson and maybe a Paddy Cunningham who'll bother his a**se showing for the ball in the TM. We need to uncover some tight marking defenders in this TM - we're seriously lacking them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on May 23, 2008, 09:45:43 AM
I wonder what happens with the grant, sorry i mean expenses, payments for these 4?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 23, 2008, 10:58:08 AM
they wont be getting them, these guys weren't in it for the money
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 23, 2008, 11:14:30 AM
Dont like to pinpoint players but Aidso Gallagher gets a lot of stick on here but if all the players had his workrate and determination Antrim footballers would not be in the state it is, he is not going to get you 0-6 from play but he is a great ball winner and winner of dirty ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 23, 2008, 03:08:54 PM
Hard station you obviously don't know Sean Kelly otherwise you would not put on such a post nor do you know Terry O'Neill.

i for one was at the game on sunday and these guys tried to win the match, they are winners such attitude has got them to Croke Park and three Ulster finals. they train on their own and with the team to condition themselves for the Championship games. they are also play all their club games hurling and football train kids at he club also. If you think they are not committed to Antrim then your way off the mark.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on May 23, 2008, 05:18:27 PM
Well hardstateion known Sean Kelly as i do, the thought of getting beat by Cavan would never have crossed his mind, and as i seen on Sunday night when the rest of the team were out getting drunk having a laugh about getting beat, Sean Kelly was nowhere to be seen, as he seen nothing funny about last sunday.
If he had of decided to go to america would people be so harsh, if his heart wasnt 100% in the tommy murphy cup then fair play to him for having the balls to stand up and say so, lets not forget noones even sure if this Tommy Cooper cup is even going to happen, as already wicklow and sligo have said they arent going to take part in it, which leaves Antrim, Waterford Kilkenny and london. Now if you think this is going to help improve antrim football in any way then fair play, but i can just imagine the intense sessions the county footballers will be doing before these matches  :P. You can be sure that with 10 minutes to go on sunday that Sean Kelly and some like him still believed, but unfortunately alot of there teammates didnt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 23, 2008, 07:20:35 PM
It looks like Jody is losing the faith of the panel and perhaps should cut his losses and move on, for the sake of his own management career. He probably believes he can't do that right now as it'll look bad on the CV, but it may get worse.

I'm told that Jody's mate, Paddy Heaney, slated Kelly during the talk-show last night. I'm also told he made the comment that Antrim have progressed with Jody Gormley in charge. I'm sorry Paddy but that's just sycophantic bullshit. Antrim are at a low, low ebb. They bombed towards the end of their league campaign - look at the teams who beat them. In the championship they played the second worst side in Ulster on their home patch, conceded 1-19 and lost by 5. Progress?

As for Sean Kelly, I don't know what happened there but I know some who do and they'll just intimate that there is a serious fall-out between both parties. I know what Hardstation means and his black-and-white approach is an ethos that is admirable. You play for your county no matter what. However, I'm led to believe things have broken down so badly that Kelly had no option but to quit. For Heaney to slate Kelly in public is scandalous and his relationship with Gormley has compromised his position as a neutral journalist. That's a great pity.

I'm also told that Fergal Logan made the remark to Heaney that the story 'broke' very quickly.

Gormley's philosophy is one that is needed in Antrim but he didn't seem to apply the same standards to all players. I'm told that Terry O'Neill was informed he'd lost his starting place a few days before the Cavan game due to a missed training session or two. However, another player appeared on the side before him despite missing a host of sessions, and even training with the county hurlers on the morning of the match. Gormley is also working within the confines of a poor county set-up and is probably honest in his endeavours. I just feel he's a little green for this job. Tactically too he may have been a little too adventurous.

I don't want to become some else's mouthpiece and have serious reservations about the mindset of many involved with the Antrim county sides. But you hear stories from those you trust. Madden wrote about a lack of self belief. I disagree. That's one thing they have in abundance in Antrim. It's just misdirected and too many have too much to say without having the success at that level to back it up. In one way, the St Gall's success is a double-edged sword. However, they just need to look at Crossmaglen. The McEntees have club titles galore but will take nothing for granted at county level. I know players put in individual work, train many nights a week and are dedicated to playing the game. But which county doesn't boast a plethora of sides with those qualities. It's that little bit extra - call it team bonding, a togetherness, a mission to succeed, a realisation that you are the privileged few good enough to represent the masses on the field. That seems to be seriously lacking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 24, 2008, 07:55:19 AM
Getting back to the club scene for a brief moment  ;)

U21 Football C'ship Results

Creggan Kickhams 1-12 v 1-9 Glenavy
Aghagallon 0-6 v 2-15 Cargin
St. Brigids B 2-6 v 0-15 St. Galls
St. Endas 1-6 v 1-10 St. Pauls
Glenravel 0-5 v 2-18 Moneyglass
Aldergrove 1-14v 1-15 Ahoghill

Think the 1/4 Finals are;

Creggan v St. Pauls
B'mena/Sarsfields v Ahoghill
Cargin v Moneyglass
St. Gall's v St. Teresas/Rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on May 25, 2008, 12:51:49 AM
NOdiscipline. No pride. No commitment. No quick fix answers for the attitude of the four players that have betrayed the football dreams of Antrim. The analysis of the current state of Antrim football by CJ McGourty is brutal in its intensity.

What is even more shocking is his indictment of the alcohol abuse prior to a vital promotion match. The defeat that followed has kept Antrim stuck in the bottom tier of football for a second successive season. They have, McGourty insists, let down their teammates, the manager Jody Gormley and the longsuffering Antrim supporters.

McGourty claims the four players spent the evening before the last league match against Waterford drinking in Belfast's Botanic Inn. They did so behind the backs of their manager and the rest of the squad. The next day they turned out for Antrim.

McGourty says that had they been tested they would have failed a breathalyser test.

On the pitch after the match Gormley expressed his bafflement at the abject performances of the Botanic Four.

He was left stunned when another player, who had been tipped off about the pre-match booze blitz, explained the real reason for the performances.

The issue was raised at a players' meeting in the week before the championship clash with Cavan last Sunday. But the damage had been done.

McGourty doesn't pull any punches when summing up his view of the state of Antrim football. The anger is matched by the frustration. On a personal basis he questions whether it is worthwhile keeping alive the hope that Antrim football might change during his career. There are other options. County hurling is one, playing professional soccer is another. The immediate plan, however, is to travel to the States. All last week the phone calls came with the offers.

There had been no plans made to answer those calls.

Last Sunday against Cavan changed things. The game turned out to be another routine first round defeat in the Ulster championship.

McGourty's superb scoring contribution of 1-4 didn't count. Just two victories in the last quarter of a century is an appalling indictment.

The lack of depth in Antrim is a factor. But the situation regarding Kevin McGourty is one that CJ McGourty believes comes into the blunder category. The circumstances surrounding the exclusion of his elder brother from the squad are complex.

"Look, I know that at times Kevin is his own worst enemy.

He is not always the easiest person to work with. But last Sunday the star man on the pitch was Seanie Johnston.

When he announced after last season's championship loss to Down that he was going to play in America the response from his manager was that it was the end of Johnston's county career.

"But in the end common sense prevailed and Cavan got the benefit. Johnston is a great player and he was allowed to show it at Casement Park. So how can we afford to be without a Kevin McGourty? He is one of the top players in the country. He would get his place on any team. This is not a brother arguing the case for his brother. It is being rational.

"It is the supporters that have been let down by all of this. There was criticism about the lack of numbers in Casement last Sunday. But, like everybody else, the Antrim fans had heard about the drinking incident. But why should they have been expected to pay up to £20 a ticket to watch some players wearing the county colours when they knew they shouldn't have been there?

"They knew there were four guys on the pitch that had no pride in being Antrim players. If they had then they wouldn't have been playing at the end of our league campaign still hungover from the night before. They were the ones that ruined our promotion chances. They were the ones that put us under pressure."

The responsibility to change attitudes, McGourty argues, rests with the county board.

He has praise for the underage coaching focus. "There is good work being done at primary school level. The investment in a centre of excellence can pay dividends. It will be tough and it will take time. But a start has been made in helping the kids make a different future."

The present poses a different challenge for McGourty.

Along with three other St Gall's teammates he has now pulled out of Antrim's Tommy Murphy Cup campaign. He is prepared for the flak. The county's exit from the Ulster championship was a factor in his departure but it wasn't the only element. McGourty wants to be able to look forward to a different future.

"At 20 years of age I don't want to spend the next ten years waking up on a Monday morning and feeling ashamed of another championship failure. I don't want to keep talking about what might have been."

Attempts to contact members of the Antrim county board proved unsuccessful yesterday.

Checking out: CJ McGourty has left the Antrim panel   Sunday Tribune.









Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 25, 2008, 09:26:46 AM
Thats a brutal piece of journalism that will cause no end of hassle for the young prodigy, and of course the 4 pissheads he refers to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 25, 2008, 12:00:00 PM
Is CJ the new voice of Antrim football,picking up the torch from the brother
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Post by: Gold on May 25, 2008, 12:57:18 PM
who are the 4?
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Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 25, 2008, 12:58:43 PM
Fair play to him for coming out and saying it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 25, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
Was wondering how long it would take for the shit to hit the fan. Lets just say that I was informed re the drinking exploits of the Botanic Four early enough the next day to persuade me to not bother going to the must win league game.

Player power at its worst, I am afraid, and my clear information from reliable sources reveal a much worse problem.

Seems the players wanted rid of Jody from well back, and a decent finish would secure him another year.

Now lets just reflect that maybe Sean Kelly did not wish to be part and parcel of this charade, and captain of a squad that a large percentage of players could not maintain the level of committment he was prepared to give.

A few interesting days ahead of us.....and lets hope the full lid dosent come off this story!!









 



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 25, 2008, 02:24:59 PM
f**k it get the lid off, who were the players!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2008, 06:01:00 PM
St Brigids beat Cargin in the league today! I'd assume that to be without Joe Brolly too as he was on Sunday game duty... St Johns took a fair hiding from Portglenone - things looking good for them in the football.

Moneyglass were beat, and beat well, by Glenavy in division 2 too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Harps 21 on May 25, 2008, 08:18:45 PM
Was reading back a page there, what's this about the "close relationship" between Jody and Paddy Heaney of IN fame?  What's the story there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 25, 2008, 09:40:18 PM
I was down seeing the clowns in St Galls this evening, will do wonders for their beautiful playing surface..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 25, 2008, 09:45:11 PM
Just roll the whole ball up and start again.

Renamed, repackaged. New colours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 25, 2008, 10:02:07 PM
County Chairman Responds to Recent Press Speculation
25 May 2008
Antrim County Chairman John McSparran has responded to several recent press articles which have speculated on various matters following the County footballers exit from the Ulster Championship last Sunday.

In Thursday's Andersonstown News, prominent St Gall's member Sean McGourty called for the appointment of a full-time "Director of football" to oversee the development of the game in the county.  In the article, McGourty stated that Antrim football was "on its knees" and that a "root and branch revolution" was needed to begin the process of changing the fortunes for football in the County. While the treasurer of Ulster Colleges GAA Council welcomed the county's Strategic Plan published in 2006, he felt that this was all very well, but that "words needed to be turned into action". "I can't say that in the 18 months since the Strategic Plan was published, that I have felt anything like a mild tremor, never mind a revolution about where we are going in terms of Gaelic Football".

Defending the Antrim County Board's progress on the Strategic Plan, McSparran said that an audit was completed at the end of 2007 to measure progress or otherwise, on those issues that the Plan highlighted that needed addressed in the short-term. We have published the Strategic Plan and this audit on our website and I am certain that any objective assessment of the work that has been done would clearly indicate that considerable progress has been made. The recent announcement and publication of Antrim's plans to build a Centre of Excellence are the most obvious example of this. However, far more has been achieved that people all too easily forget. Let's remember where we were at the beginning of 2006 and where we have come in the last 2 years. We now have an excellent website rated as one of the top two GAA sites in the country by Media giants, Setanta. Within the website, we have an excellent results and fixtures service supported by the fact that over 40,000 hits are registered by the site each month. Club fixtures are infinitely better organised than previously, much improved facilities are available to county teams albeit temporarily as this is one of the primary reasons for developing a Centre of Excellence.  We have generated funds to assist in delivering the objectives outlined in the Strategic Plan, something that this county has not done since Casement Park was constructed in the 1950s.  I could highlight plenty of other things as evidence of progress, but instead I would invite Sean and any other interested parties to take a look at this audit and then consider if there isn't "even a tremor" in terms of progress being made.

However, the Glens GP was anxious to point out that he didn't disagree with much of what McGourty was calling for. In terms of a Director for Football, McSparran stated that as part of Ulster Council's ongoing modernisation programme, a full-time "Coaching and Games Development Officer" post should be appointed before the end of the summer.  "This would not be specifically for football, but provided the right person is appointed then I don't see this as differing much from what Sean or Tommy Lyons is suggesting."

McSparran also pointed out that currently there are coaches going into any school that that has requested this. "For the past couple of years, I think this has been helpful, but I am not certain it is the most effective thing we can do. We are currently reviewing all our full or part-time coaching positions. Much of this is dependent on the issues that will be raised when the Strategic Plan designed to specifically address problems in Belfast is produced. We have already made several presentations to the HDC in Croke Park and we have been advised that considerable resources will be made available to us to develop hurling in the county. We have been invited to do the same at the National Coaching and Games Development Committee by the chairman of that committee, Uachtaran-tofa Christy Cooney.  Sean is probably like me and many members of the County Management team in that we are all impatient to see things happen more quickly. However, with the impending appointment of a full-time County Secretary, I believe that we will be better able to deliver things more quickly than volunteers are currently capable of doing. I agree entirely with Sean that our focus must be on the younger generation and in schools".

McSparran sounded a note of warning though. "Developing football, or hurling for that matter should not be considered as the sole responsibility of the County board. Clubs have probably a more important role to play here than County officials. Just last week in another newspaper column,  a vociferous critic of Antrim lamented the fact that there were up to 20 clubs based along the same road in Belfast, yet little was being done in many of these clubs to promote the development of Gaelic Games in a meaningful way. While I believe that there may be some merit in some of what was said, this does not realistically reflect the fact that many clubs in Belfast are struggling for a multitude of reasons. There is sterling work going on within many of these clubs and those people do not deserve to be categorized as "failing" the Association. We must not forget that Belfast is still suffering from a legacy of 30 years of strife, many clubs are struggling financially and many have no facilities, either of their own or provided by the statutory authorities."

"That's why the Belfast Strategic Work Group chaired by County Secretary Jim Murray, is currently drafting a Strategic Plan for Belfast". Assisted by Ulster Council with representatives from the Down County board, schools and the media, it is anticipated this Plan will be ready for publication in the next couple of months. "I am disappointed that some of our clubs failed to send representatives to a well advertised meeting for them to have an input into this. Nevertheless, we had sufficient enough input from those that were present that we have a basis to move on". 

The County Chairman stated that there is a limit as to what County Board, Ulster Council or Croke Park officials can do.  "This is not a Belfast-specific problem. Far too much apathy exists throughout the county with too few willing to share in the responsibility of moving the county forward. We must not allow ourselves to be deflected by the merchants of doom and gloom. It's only too easy for the cloak-and-dagger critics on various websites etc to promote negativity and hopelessness and therefore dissuade those that might be interested in doing something constructive to move this county forward.  I know that those currently involved in the County Management Committee are determined to do what they can to continue with the work that is ongoing. They will not be burdened by the under-achievement of the past or the habitual critics who revel in defeat and despair".

McSparran challenged the current County Management Committee's critics. "How many of them are actively involved with their clubs in any role that promotes development? How many are contributing in any meaningful way to the task of moving this county into a new era of genuine hope and ultimately success? How many of them have dug deep into their pockets to support the various financial initiatives being organised that support both their club and their county? I applaud Sean McGourty for raising the matters he has done in an open and honest way. Debate and discussion is healthy and we must encourage this in ways where positive developments can be effected. As Sean says though, "actions speak louder than words". Let us support the efforts currently being made by getting involved with coaching or refereeing or even just by digging deep in our pockets to buy a Saffron Sweep ticket".

Asked about the decision of 4 players to withdraw from the County football panel, McSparran expressed disappointment that these players could not see the season through. "I know that the Tommy Murphy Cup is not exactly the most prestigious of competitions. However, the reality is that, we are where we are. No-one in Antrim football could possibly think that the Tommy Murphy Cup is not good enough for them. We find ourselves in this situation entirely through our failure to gain promotion. Well, that's done and dusted and we have an obligation to compete in the Tommy Murphy Cup".

Not only would the County lose much needed finance by not competing in this competition, but the players would forfeit any financial rewards that would accrue as a result of the recently approved Players Expenses Scheme. "I have been given indications that most of our players would have considered pooling this money together to support a team holiday or something similar, prior to the beginning of next season. Those players that have withdrawn now will have excluded themselves from benefiting from this because of the rules set down outlining how they would qualify for these expenses. Consequently this has implications for the rest of the squad should they decide to pool these resources, for whatever purpose and I think this will have a bearing on next year's preparations".

That aside, McSparran believes that the Tommy Murphy Cup is a useful competition for Antrim football for various reasons. "Tipperary won this cup a couple years ago and look at where they are now. Wicklow won it last year and this year they have now won their first championship match in over 100 years.  I believe our footballers are under-achieving, but we have got to learn how to win important matches. If that means stepping down a grade, then so be it. It's not that long ago that Fermanagh were ranked as low as us. They won an All Ireland 'B' as far as I can remember, and their recent results only demonstrate how much this has stood to them. We have got to learn to walk before we can run and I would appeal to those players to reconsider this decision. There will not be any collective training for the next few weeks and while I can understand the players' disappointment with the Cavan match, they are not alone in this regard. I believe there is still time for these players to change their minds and I would urge them not to miss out on what could be the first step on a long road to much greater success".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2008, 08:23:18 AM
Question. Is Antrim football currently in its worst ever state? Does anyone ever remember things AS bad?

Our seniors have not progressed one inch, and if Paddy Heaney, or any other, wants to outline his clear reasons for taking the opposite view, then lets have them!

Not only have our seniors stagnated, but Jody must also be held accountable for a shambles of an under twentyone set up as well.

The minors had, it must be said, a very middling season, although they showed some balls at least against a good Cavan minor team.

Working on down the list, and our sixteens were obviously the weakest team at a recent inter county blitz tournament run by Ulster Council, and to make matters worse, a few weeks later our under fifteens from the city were well beaten in all their games also!

On the plus side, Antrim sides on the Mc Larnon cup, and the Loch an Uir, very admirable and well done, but still grade B conpetition.

Its going to be a long long road, but it can be done, but some tough calls need to be made, and soon!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on May 26, 2008, 09:05:49 AM
I saw a car in north belfast as the weekend, number plate H16 GAA.  Fair play to that man.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown raver on May 26, 2008, 11:10:04 AM
Fair play, but he does have bullet proof windows as well.  ;D

Heard a few of the county panel are nearly sorted for there long haul flight across the atlantic  ;). Will they be slated in the same manner.
Think you'll find Jody not only plays with Paddy heaney but also lives on the same street. Maybe thats why he supports him.

Maybe that explains how the story was leaked within hours when it was supposed to be kept in house to give the boys time to reconsider. also heard that O'neill never missed 1 training session never mind 2 so Jodys talking more crap, and trying to explain his decisions.

Think more of the truth is starting to come out now about the real reasons boys have left, that the set up is a complete shambles.
Fair play to Kel for not airing the problems  of antrim all over the papers when it could have been quite easy to do so and would have got the press and everyone else of his back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
Raver, agree wholeheartedly about Sean Kelly. He was geting abuse here last week for supposedly deserting a sinking ship, some even questioning his loyalty to the county.

The real reason is coming out gradually in stages, and lets say the "Bot four" arnt the only culprits.

Sean Kelly has been a total role model to all, throughout a long and distinguished career with QUB, St Galls, and Antrim.

At this stage of his career, all he would have asked for was a sensible level of committment from ALL concerned, to drive on and secure promotion, and give the c`ship a big push.

Things must have been very bad for Kel to make that decision, and must have been horrified when the details were leaked to the press. Despite this, he has maintained a dignified silence, citing "personal"reasons, rather than take the high profile route to public shown by CJ.

Kelly is an Antrim man to the core, and a proud one at that, and hugely respected throughout Ulster. Its up to others now to step up to the plate, and demonstrate to Sean Kelly that there is something worthwhile for him to return to.

One hundred per cent behind you Kel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 27, 2008, 12:47:53 PM
If he was captain of this squad and four guys had totally let the rest of the squad down why did he not stand up and say that the rest of the committed players didnt want these four players on the squad?

Why does he wait until the damage is done in the year and then bring this up as an excuse and walk away?


seems to fit all nicely together when you look back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2008, 01:17:59 PM
Nag, the captains job is to lead by example, which Sean Kelly has always done. It is not his job to pick the team. In this case the management knew of the pre match booze up and I emphasize the Bot four were not the only ones drinking that night.

The management could have dealt with one or two, but six or seven drinking was too much for them to discipline, esp as they had culled the panel a few weeks earlier.

I can only imagine how disgusted S.Kelly was at their behaviour, but what were his choices? Should he have walked at that stage? You say he should have stood up and demanded the culprits should be thrown out. Now what sort of a hullaballoo would that have caused, a few weeks before the c`ship?

Instead he bottled down and gave the c`ship his best shot, but the team spirit was in rags, and in the end his choice was made easy with the diabolical, lifeless, and gutless second half display.

Sean Kelly has tough choices to make regarding the rest of his inter county career, but I would suggest tougher choices await Dr Mc Sparran, who has done nothing wrong in his tenure to date, and more importantly Jody Gormley who has now been fully exposed at this level.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 27, 2008, 01:24:46 PM
What experience had Jody Gromley prior to taking the county jib. I know he had managed his schoolteam of Abbey at senior schoolboy level and that he coached the Down senior squad...surely he had senior club experience of management?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 01:32:44 PM
Loving the name 'The Bot Four' as if they are part of some political struggle!!

:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2008, 01:38:46 PM
I love that there is always some other reason when Antrim get beat, it is never just the players are s*it.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 27, 2008, 01:41:21 PM
Bannside

He was captain and as such if he felt so strongly about the bot four then he should have stood over his principles then.

He doesnt pick the team but as a player and a leader he should be strong enough to say these guys dont respect you as a coach jody, me as their captain or the antrim public when they are doing this kind of thing so its time for a line in the sand!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 27, 2008, 01:44:57 PM
The soap opera that is Antrim GAA continues  :-\

AZ Offaly should get on here & write a story on 'The Bot 4'......did they stay downstairs...in the front bar...or they did they go upstairs to the disca??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2008, 01:56:06 PM
Jody wouldnt have any real top inter club management experience, due largely to the fact that he is still young enough to be playing himself for his club. His achievement at the Abbey was creditable, no doubt about that.

My own contacts, at the highest level, who worked close up with him when he was involved with Down, have always clouded my view. There were no tears spilt when he left, lets put it that way. Having said that I have not once in his two years made any negative comment about him on this forum or otherwise. I preferred to give him space to work his magic, and prove me wrong.

Even now I dont wish to get into a complete check list of where and how he failed, but any manager will be judged on the following, and this is only part of the story. Good man management, variation of training, a gameplan, consistency in disciplinary matters, motivation/mental/psychological, team bonding/team spirit, etc etc.

Its not for me to score the checklist, but I know for sure the dressing room is well and truly gone. Do I personally think Jody should go? Definitely yes. A good enough fitness coach, a nice enough fella, but under no circumstances should he be given longer to use my county as a place to serve his apprenticeship. Suit a decent club division two team in Derry or Down. For a few quid!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 02:49:45 PM
NAME THE BOT FOUR!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2008, 03:04:51 PM
To help with Antrim fundraising for the Centre of Excellence:
Cage fight to the death. Casement Park. £20 entrance fee.

The Bot Four v The St.Gall's Four

Ask not what your county can do for you but what you can do for your county.

Yep, i would definitely pay for that! Far better value than Antrim Cavan anyway!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 27, 2008, 03:44:58 PM
So the Bot 4 are defo not any of the St Gall's 4 ??

Heard there was also 2 or 3 in the Eg that night and one who go knocked back from the Ray Parlour as he had no I.D.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 27, 2008, 03:44:58 PM
So the Bot 4 are defo not any of the St Gall's 4 ??

Heard there was also 2 or 3 in the Eg that night and one who go knocked back from the Ray Parlour as he had no I.D.

f**k me this is getting serious as Celine Dion would say!!

Least use have a laugh in antrim, wish this was all going on in down!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on May 27, 2008, 05:51:42 PM
did the bot 4 think that they would not be recognised in the Bot, or did they do this to be recognised as such???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 27, 2008, 06:05:36 PM
the bot four is acutally the bot two, and one of them is a county hurler.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 06:09:00 PM
Name and shame then.... Surely they don't deserve to be kept anonymous if they're gallavanting around the bot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 27, 2008, 06:14:38 PM
a surprise starter against Cavan in the championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 27, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
correct!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2008, 06:50:51 PM
I have no intention of naming the players in public, but they are well known to those that matter. PWTW, I`d like to think it was down to one surprise c`ship starter, plus a hurler which is not relevant in this particular case.

Sorry, but I`m talking an absolute bottom line minimum of six who took part in the action, and I didnt say they were ALL in the Bot.

Someone else might put the meat on the bones, but those in the know have the details. A total absolute disgrace no matter what way you look at it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2008, 07:10:02 PM
What's wrong Bannside - you not get on that day ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 27, 2008, 07:18:37 PM
bannside sounds like a famous ex-poster! not john-joe but!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2008, 07:43:26 PM
Speaking of the boul Jonny Joe, whatever became of him? 

TommyGun, youre a bit too clever right now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 12:34:44 AM
These drink allegations are getting out of hand and are not the real cause for the Antrim demise. Every county has those players, even in the most successful. You get the impression it's being used to deflect the flak by some people for personal decisions made. Sure when I was reading CJ's article regarding his thoughts on the Bot Boys, I was told that his brother drank away in Casement bar whilst an NFL game was being played outside, simply because he wasn't playing. I've no idea how accurate that is but if you go about accusing such and such of drinking you'd need to have a clean house yourself.

What CJ should be addressing is the county board's continued mistreatment of county players in comparison to others and of initiatives, or the lack of, to prevent the bleeding of GAA talent in the county from the ages of 11 to 18. That's have a wee bit more meat on the bones than a couple of lads drinking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 28, 2008, 08:37:22 AM
I don't have the time to go into any great depth with regards to Dr McSparran's contribution but a couple of things stand out.

Quote from: ONeill on May 25, 2008, 10:02:07 PM
McSparran believes that the Tommy Murphy Cup is a useful competition for Antrim football for various reasons. "Tipperary won this cup a couple years ago and look at where they are now. Wicklow won it last year and this year they have now won their first championship match in over 100 years.  I believe our footballers are under-achieving, but we have got to learn how to win important matches. If that means stepping down a grade, then so be it. It's not that long ago that Fermanagh were ranked as low as us. They won an All Ireland 'B' as far as I can remember, and their recent results only demonstrate how much this has stood to them. We have got to learn to walk before we can run ....

The following appeared in the Irish News less than a year ago.

QuoteHowever, the Antrim chairman was critical of the Tommy Murphy Cup given that it cost the county in the region of £6,000 for the trip to Kilkenny where 31 spectators watched the game.

"The [Kilkenny] result certainly does nothing for this competition and with the considerable expense that we incurred as a result of having to travel to Kilkenny as well as the attitude many have towards the competition in general, honest debate about its continued existence needs to be held."

Can't have it both ways Doc., which is it?

The second point is this.

Quote from: ONeill on May 25, 2008, 10:02:07 PM
McSparran "It's not that long ago that Fermanagh were ranked as low as us. They won an All Ireland 'B' as far as I can remember."

Just for the craic, can you name any other teams who may have won the All Ireland B football crown? Say 1999 for example. I'll give you a clue - try to fill in the missing letter.

A N T * I M

And just for more craic, who did they beat in that final?  Another clue.  F E * M A N A G H.

A third clue, The same letter is missing from both county names.


Unfortunately contributions like the above from Dr McSparran only highlight how out of touch he really is with football in his own county. Shocking that a county chairman can be so ill-informed and it just highlights how far down the list of priorities football is for him.

Still, as long as no-one uses his picture as an avatar, all is well in the world.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2008, 09:07:03 AM
Some good points there.

Agree with O Neill, the lack of any worthwhile juvenile development is by far our biggest problem. Saffron Sam may disagree, but I think Mc Sparran has been a very good leader, my only fear is that he will either get disillusioned, or burnt out, whichever comes first.

Dont want to sound parochial here, but I think North Antrim has a decent juvenile set up, and the hurling people there have stood up and made it happen.

The South West are in the process of putting together a decent development squad, for football, and I would have an insight on how they will drive on with this over the summer. They have a squad session on Saturday, and every club that has players good enough will have them present. They have a nice mixture of coaching and games lined up, witha view of doing really well at the next Ulster blitz at the start of August. Their itinerary has a start, a middle and an end, and has the full support of the SW executive.

To me the WEAK link is the city. What has the South Antrim committee there doing to promote the PROPER develoment of young players. Lets call a spade a spade here. The Belfast area is lagging well behind in both football and hurling development. For the sake of a better Antrim, it needs to get its act together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2008, 09:42:21 AM
Did CJ Mc Gourty not go on a drinking weekend with the St Marys hurlers down south when Antrim had a match? Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 28, 2008, 09:48:28 AM
Yes minder think there is alot of the pot calling here. Its ok to stand up and say your whiter than white if you actually are but to start coming with these kind of statements when you have been in this kind of position in the not so recent past is hypocrisy.

Kets face it they, are using this as a get out clause. They dont want to put the extra couple of weeks into training for the TM which is ok if they would just come out and say rather than hiding behind other issues.

The doctor is trying his best as far as i can see, yes he is weaker on football but that is only natural given his back ground. I think it is time for the football people in this county to stand up and be counted, there is no excuse for antrim being weak at football. Look at our geographical position in Ulster and our catchment of players.

Time for a shake up and a look at the structures in football top to bottom.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 28, 2008, 09:59:40 AM
Bannside....the club is the first port of call when establishing good coaching and this is where in my opinion the weakness ls. No doubt you will point to St Galls and cargin, but after that what do you have....very poor quality. To me the evidence of good club coaching is producing 2/3 players able to progress into senior club football year in and year out. And i guess this is the subjective part of the discussion. For many clubs what they have been producing is not good enough in quality and numbers, although they might thing that it is good enough. It is the clubs responsibility to ensure that they have better coaches and this means a strategy and a drive to up the knowledge base of their club coaches and also to ensure that they just dont give the u12 team to some young lads da because he is interested. I know at our own club we went through a recent period where or coaching was poor and that reflected in the quality of our last two minor sides, but we identified the problem and have successful sorted it out and now have an excellent coaching structure all the way down to 6 yr olds. It meant approaching the right people and making sure there were lots of sessions over 10 months of the year. I will be interested to hear how you think these squads make a difference and also what evidence you will use to back it up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2008, 11:00:27 AM
Some interesting points Bannside.

One thing which I found worrying from a Belfast perspective was the fact St Endas saw the need to move to SW leagues rather than the south antrim ones. It seems clear that the north antrim hurling structures are better than the south antrim ones. However I'm surprised in the football.

However Belfast seems to be making greater strides in schools football than the teams in the south west. It was interesting to note that about 80% of the minors this year were from Belfast and some were from Glenavy who are most likely schooled in Belfast.  To me a school like St Louis should be competing at a higher level in football. They have the pick of the south west. With Paul McFlynn in there maybe that will change.(However he was in a couple of years ago - not 100% sure he still is).

I think we lack the fundamentals in our coaching - whether that be clubs or schools not stepping up to the mark I don't know. I felt that even though the minors ran Cavan close this year they were a good bit short in some of the skills. Even going back to good minor teams of 97 / 98 I felt we were fortunate to have an abundance of big men and perhaps lacked the fundamentals then too.

I would ten to agree with Max - clubs need to step up though I think a few definitely are. I think someone like Creggan is a fine example. In the south west we also need more input from schools.

BTW Bannsider- are you a full time coach??

Incidentally I think from a progression perspective McSparran is doing  great job. I think he can be somewhat naive in his football / hurling opinions but I think he is setting some excellent structures in place with the development at dunsilly being a prime example.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 28, 2008, 11:22:39 AM
North Antrim is almost entirely devoted to hurling & South West would be almost entirely given over to football, so there isn't a great deal of conflict between the 2 games, which probably leads to smoother organisation. In South Antrim, a major problem would be that clubs are entering teams into competitions, particularly at under age level, when they clearly don't have the numbers, leading to a lot of failures to field.

Given the geographical situation of St. Enda's, it's as quick to get to North Antrim or South West Antrim venues as it is to get across Belfast. There's probably a multitude of reasons why St. Enda's moved, but I think it was done with the longer term motivation of developing the club further.

It's going to be a big challenge for the County Board - how to arrest the decline of Gaelic games in Belfast, but this is happening in all major urban centres. We should not be so insular & should look at other sports - 1 of the prime reasons that people are falling away is the fact that there are regular & lengthy periods of inactivity in the GAA calendar & people are just going elsewhere, if they're guaranteed regular competitive activity. I don't profess to be any sort of guru & don't want to write a thesis, but maybe we need to look at all structures within the County & replace those that are no longer fit for purpose. That & get people in who know what they're doing, in terms of providing top notch coaching at club / school level. I know it's easy pontificating here, getting it done will require resources & people are reluctant to give up a lot of time, especially when the county is in the doldrums.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
I would agree with most of what you say pwtw. The question probably needs to be asked if Belfast has too many clubs. St Brigids will be good for the game I think though. You had a large untapped resource in south belfast which is fortunately now being tapped. I know they have ringers too but they are new so to be expected.

However more also needs to be done in the south west - particularly in schools.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 28, 2008, 11:55:51 AM
Don't forget though that there are a couple of other clubs within the South Belfast catchment area, e.g. Bredagh & Carryduff & these aren't Antrim clubs, although I'm well aware that they have many people in their ranks that were originally Antrim GAA people. That tells you something.

On the question of schools, it's a fact that many teachers are turning away from all sorts of extra curricular activities such as sports. They aren't interested in anything outside school hours & the whole child protection / health & safety regime has served to put many people off. Schools without a dedicated PE teacher are going to struggle to get anybody to take gaelic games coaching I would think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2008, 12:15:18 PM
True to a point but the teachers issue is the same for other counties. I dunno if the county board could help out here?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 28, 2008, 02:42:14 PM
on a positive note for the county --was good to see St Brigids beat Cargin in the league, Cargin rarely are beaten in the league and St brigids matched them all the way in this one--it may only be the league but anyone making any headway into breaking or attempting to break the big 2 has to be good for antrim football--surely some of those boys may in the coming years add to the county team
Title: Antrim Club Championship
Post by: Casements08 on May 28, 2008, 03:12:26 PM
Hi everyone!

Anyone know when the Antrim Champion first round is?

Who will win/not turn up/kick 40wides.  Use this page to debate your thoughts & views.

Up Casements!  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Antrim Club Championship
Post by: armaghniac on May 28, 2008, 03:20:45 PM
I expect the people in the Antrim thread (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=21.0) in the Local gaa discussion section (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?board=3.0) know all about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 28, 2008, 03:37:39 PM
Antrim SFC - 2008

St. Brigids  Cargin  Corrigan Park 08/08/2008 19:30 TBC Qtr Final 
Creggan Kickhams  Lamh Dhearg  Ahoghill 08/08/2008 19:30 TBC Qtr Final 
Rasharkin  Dunloy  Portglenone 09/08/2008 19:00 TBC Preliminary 
St. Pauls  Gort Na Mona  Casement Park 09/08/2008 19:00 TBC Preliminary 
St. Galls  Portglenone  Casement Park 10/08/2008 15:00 TBC Preliminary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 28, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on May 28, 2008, 09:59:40 AM
Bannside....the club is the first port of call when establishing good coaching and this is where in my opinion the weakness ls. No doubt you will point to St Galls and cargin, but after that what do you have....very poor quality. To me the evidence of good club coaching is producing 2/3 players able to progress into senior club football year in and year out. And i guess this is the subjective part of the discussion. For many clubs what they have been producing is not good enough in quality and numbers, although they might thing that it is good enough. It is the clubs responsibility to ensure that they have better coaches and this means a strategy and a drive to up the knowledge base of their club coaches and also to ensure that they just dont give the u12 team to some young lads da because he is interested. I know at our own club we went through a recent period where or coaching was poor and that reflected in the quality of our last two minor sides, but we identified the problem and have successful sorted it out and now have an excellent coaching structure all the way down to 6 yr olds. It meant approaching the right people and making sure there were lots of sessions over 10 months of the year. I will be interested to hear how you think these squads make a difference and also what evidence you will use to back it up
Maximus Marillius,

I think that you spot on with the issue affecting Antrim football. Club coaching is the most important issue affecting developing Antrim into a contender in football. Cargin and St Gall's aren't the only two clubs with good caoching structures, Creggan, St Brigids, Sean Stinsons and Gort na mona have good programs in place which is reflected in the clubs progress from the lower divisions to div 1, but all the clubs need to step up.
I coached underage teams with my club from a number of years, and to be honest the biggest obstacles in developing the squads was 1) county development teams, 2) Facilitating hurling training / matches.

The problem with the CD squads was that I was taking club training without my best players so the rest of the squad suffered. Regarding facilitating hurling, working in dual club means that you are limited in what you can do with the teams because some of my players could have four games during the week.

The answer, CD squads should be trained at the end / before underage leagues start. 2) The gaa should seriously consider defining football periods and hurling periods where one sport takes preference over the other. In the states, the four major sports in America is defined by the seasons of the year, so a kid can play football (fall), basketball (winter), soccer (spring) baseball (summer) with out the fear of burn out.

Tommygun,
regarding the southwest and colleges, the lads from sw represent St Mary's Magherafelt and St. Pats Maghera. Ballymena doesn't have a full SW selection to pick from, but they should still be aiming for A grade football.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2008, 05:30:28 PM
Max, busy today, just getting a chance to respond.

I have to agree that the club SHOULD be the basis for proper coaching. Also CSC point that at times CD squads actually hamper what you are trying to do at club level.

I cant imagine Max that too many potentially goodplayers in Bellaghy slip through the net. Thats because your structures are good now, and as a club you worked hard to put these structures in place.

However in Antrim we wouldnt have that many clubs really doing the development thing properly. An earlier poster named four or five, and if there are a couple more that would be the height of it. Truthfully I wouldnt be worried about a decent prospect getting a good education at half a dozen clubs, and now include Glenavy in that bracket too. But few of these would be on the scale of Ballinderry, Bellaghy, Kilrea or Magherafelt for example.

If the county dev squads are badly organised, then there is no benefit to them at all. But if they are run properly, on a systemised basis, with individual sessions dedicated to all the basic and relevant skills of the game, where there is enjoyment, reward and status, then I think that quite a few individuals would benefit from them.

Where they can be assessed for the stronger/weaker parts of their game, introducing strength and conditioning where appropriate.

In conclusion I see the proper resources being put in to making this a priority, where the county can take outright responsibility for the proper development of its potentially elite, rather than leave that huge responsibility to a handful of clubs who are still a long way off the four Derry clubs you would have dealings with or against.

And on another note, with the opening of Croke park, and the extra money for urban development, and Antrim now obviously the weak link in Ulster, how hard would it be to put a FULL TIME coach into three or four of our larger schools. These coaches to be employed not by Antrim, but by Ulster.

A strong Antrim would be a massive lift for the game in Ulster, with massive crowds sure to get behind any successful senior team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 07:09:11 PM
And sales of pastie baps would go through the roof. And shell suits. And fake bling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 28, 2008, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 07:09:11 PM
And sales of pastie baps would go through the roof. And shell suits. And fake bling.

Antrim referees are going to have to take a stand then & stop allowing teams to come out onto the pitch with these items.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on May 28, 2008, 08:44:49 PM
when I was over at the St Galls tournament on May day I was having a word with a few of the other u10 coaches, some of them were stating that they had to start putiting their own coaches into some of the primary schools as they didn't do football. I think it would be more important to get the basics right from an early stage, as opposed to have to correct these at a later stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 28, 2008, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on May 28, 2008, 08:44:49 PM
when I was over at the St Galls tournament on May day I was having a word with a few of the other u10 coaches, some of them were stating that they had to start Putin their own coaches into some of the primary schools as they didn't do football. I think it would be more important to get the basics right from an early stage, as opposed to have to correct these at a later stage.

Vladimir? In West Belfast? Things are bad in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on May 28, 2008, 09:14:15 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on May 28, 2008, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on May 28, 2008, 08:44:49 PM
when I was over at the St Galls tournament on May day I was having a word with a few of the other u10 coaches, some of them were stating that they had to start Putin their own coaches into some of the primary schools as they didn't do football. I think it would be more important to get the basics right from an early stage, as opposed to have to correct these at a later stage.

Vladimir? In West Belfast? Things are bad in Antrim.

:D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 03:51:05 PM
Some result harstation...was that with the hurlers back in action then and a point to prove or was it that Cargin were just bad.
St Brigids given a bit of a footballing lesson by St Galls yesterday by all accounts.
Any other Div 1 matches?

Randalstown drew with Ardoyne in what will be a tight Div 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 02, 2008, 03:56:34 PM
st galls had 15 players only. three were playing while injured, one with a broken hand!!! the other a county player (current) with a knee injury. also Chris Kerr was playing midfield and Karl Stewart unable to play due to Antrims game that night.

was not at game, busy against the Aggies, but talking to some of the players and they said st Brigids were rubbish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leo on June 02, 2008, 03:58:37 PM
Congratulations to the committee who organised the race event at Down Royal on Friday night - superb in every respect. And the Saffron Sweep was a massive success again. Antrim can do it when we pull together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2008, 12:09:05 PM
antrim star spotted at the american embassy looking for something, not sure what he'd be there for considering the season that awaits :P :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
think he may be home sick, come home around tea time for supper.

who else is going stateside?

i'm going, cant wait
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 05, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
C.J, P.C

probably many more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2008, 04:48:47 PM
M.H  MAYBE
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leo on June 05, 2008, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 07:09:11 PM
And sales of pastie baps would go through the roof. And shell suits. And fake bling.

Might even double the quotas currently monopolised by the Omagh and Cookstown hand reddeners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 05, 2008, 05:15:17 PM
Michaela, Mark, Mickey, Michael or Marian?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on June 06, 2008, 06:33:30 PM
county website has stated one county player has asked for 60 day sanction to USA

so who is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2008, 09:14:41 AM
Wild craic this thread is recently, not!

Antrim football in deep depression. Ok theres times it has been bad, very bad even, but the whole thing has hit rock bottom as far as I can see.

Any ideas out there how we can pick things up?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2008, 09:28:45 AM
when has antrim football not been in a bad state,the current players are not good enough. There is not a lot you can do in the short term
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
Not so sure the players arnt there Minder. Maybe not in terms of winning national titles, but we should be punching a lot higher with the players we do have.

We have more players than ever featuring prominently at Sigerson level, six or seven at least, and a few years ago we had nowhere near this.

St Galls should have won an all ireland club title, a bit of stage fright beat them, but they completely outplayed Nemo and Salthill.

Id say the right management team would bring this Antrim squad on a long way. But it would have to be leadership that has proved itself, not a rookie experiment, plucked on a whim, but one the players would give their full respect to.

Plus the fact that our whole style of Basketball/Football has to change. We need a completely different style, and Id say get Kevin Mc Glinchey and Benny Hasson on the edge of the square, and pump them in long and hard, with a couple of tidy forwards playing off them.

My Antrim team would be completely different to the one that poses for same at present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blasmere on June 07, 2008, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 07, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
Not so sure the players arnt there Minder. Maybe not in terms of winning national titles, but we should be punching a lot higher with the players we do have.

We have more players than ever featuring prominently at Sigerson level, six or seven at least, and a few years ago we had nowhere near this.

St Galls should have won an all ireland club title, a bit of stage fright beat them, but they completely outplayed Nemo and Salthill.

Id say the right management team would bring this Antrim squad on a long way. But it would have to be leadership that has proved itself, not a rookie experiment, plucked on a whim, but one the players would give their full respect to.

Plus the fact that our whole style of Basketball/Football has to change. We need a completely different style, and Id say get Kevin Mc Glinchey and Benny Hasson on the edge of the square, and pump them in long and hard, with a couple of tidy forwards playing off them.

My Antrim team would be completely different to the one that poses for same at present.

Who's he?, I assume you mean everyone's favourite player who now writes a newspaper column
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2008, 12:14:20 PM
Not correct Blasmere. But a good man manager might get the best out of the player you mean.

Personally i think a mc gort giving his all would be an asset, and a different managerial approach might work.

Begs the question, should a manager treat All players equally, or would a really good manager go the extra mile to facilitate one or two who need a bit of extra attention.

Would say that all successful managers would have had a few primas, but sometimes those prmas can be the difference. Cant imagine Graham Geraghty or Joe Brolly would be easy characters in a dressing room, and I can think of loads more, but they have the medals in their pocket, and their managers did the business because they found the formulae to work with the large egos

Pat O Shea in his autobiography knew his biggest obstacle would be the handling of Darragh O Se, the man who controlled the dressing room. He found a method. He won back to back all Irelands.

Likewise, Joe Kernan knew the secret to keep Geezer onboard, and he in turn kept the players in check. Mc Geeney didnt like the way his pal Grimley was shafted, and the rot had set in and big Joe was on borrowed time.

I`d get Mc Gort onside, find him a role, and allow him a bit of scope to assist with the persuit of excellence he craves. ( A bit of reverse psychology).

Maybe there would be no working with the man at all, but Id say a good manager would find a way. Both would know where the line was drawn, and maybe it would need drawn in a different place to others. The same as two of the greatest soccer managers of all time, Busby v Best, and Jock Stein v Jimmy Johnstone.

Oh, and yes, they were both instrumental in winning the coveted European Cup, and allowed their managers to pass into folklore.

And then theres Jody!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2008, 02:30:20 PM
Whoops, meant Jack O Connor, not Pat O Se, in above post. Pat O Se we need to get Dara a lot fitter than he looked in the league final to get the best out of him. Thought he blew up a bit and faded last fifteen/twenty.

But Kerry arnt wound up in May, and they will be a totally different poposition in Sept.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2008, 04:23:11 PM
Well they are some ridiculous comparisons Bannside,O 'se,mc geeney etc and mc gourty ! They .have all performed at inter county level,mc gourty hasnt and is basically a club player. . . . . . . . As for this "pursuit of excellence" that he likes to associate himself with,actions speak louder than words
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2008, 09:52:50 PM
Take your point Minder, O Se and Mc Geeney been there, done it etc etc.

Make no mistake though, Mc Gourty can play football, and would almost certainly make an Armagh or Kerry if he put his very best foot forward. We havent too many of that calibre in Antrim, and its unfortunate that Jody/Kevin couldnt get it on.

Dont know the ins and outs of why it broke down, no doubt Mc Gourty crossed the line, but it was the same line Busby and Stein had to deal with, if you can see the relevance of the point I am trying to make.

I dont know if Mc Gourty can be managed, maybe not, but I would suggest that a respected management team, like Moran and McGuckin, for example, might hold his attention longer and get the best out of the player. Having said that I think the only person to put things right is Mc Gourty himself, and I am confident he would put his best foot forward for the right management team. He`s a clever enough person to know that he shouldnt completely piss away a great talent he has been given.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 08, 2008, 01:12:30 AM
Bannside,if you think Shaws Road would get on the Kerry team you must he on some great drugs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2008, 12:08:36 PM
Minder, footballs full of opinions and i think Shaws a his best would be a big asset. Dont think we should debate the issue though, enough said already on the player. Jody couldnt find a way of working with him, maybe a better man management style might have got more mileage. But I dont claim to know the player that well personally, maybe theres no working with him at all. On his best form that Ive seen though, he would make most top inter county sides, if selection was based on ability.

Hoof, I wouldnt be working overtime to conceal my identity, PM me with your details and I`ll reciprocate. Theres a quare word for a Sunday morning! At any C`ship matches over the weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 08, 2008, 01:53:01 PM
mc glinchey from st johns!? if it is your definately on the wind up john joe sorry bannside because that boy mc glinchey is a 6ft 8 midget, and has feet on him like flippers.  However i do agree with you that there are definately the players in antrim to be achieving higher although commitment is the biggest issue. 

i think that cargin and st galls are playing today in rasharkin in the u21 championship semi, think it would be a good game but i duno wat time its at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
I like big Mc Glinchey as an out and out fielder. He wouldnt have a great engine, thats been his downfall, but could play the big full forward role, catch and supply, IF COACHED. Thats the bit you mightnt be taking into consideration, Pebble.

Incidentally I saw a very good midfield performance from him two weeks ago in the league, and in my memory bank from a few short years ago recall him and Benny lording it against all comers at u-21, in midfield.

Stand on the edge of the square and pump in a hundred balls night after night at training. Field and supply, field and supply, field and supply. At 6 feet 6 with hands to match I am certain he could fulfil that role.

As I said before we cant continue to carry twelve 5 feet 8`s any more, and MUST change our dinky basketball style that has failed us for decades. And Fcukin well stick big Benny in there too. At least it might represent some kind of GAME PLAN.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 09, 2008, 02:36:33 PM
Hadn't realise Joe Cassidy had pulled the pin with Bellaghy.

Someone was saying he knocked over ten points for Ballycastle in the Feis football over the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 09, 2008, 11:28:33 PM
he should play for the county!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2008, 11:12:45 PM
What's all this malarky about an ageing Rossa great getting a 12-week suspension for verbal abuse of a ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 13, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
Top notch stuff Hardy!

when will the word be out on what next year will bring us?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 13, 2008, 02:05:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 13, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
I'm worried about the latest member of the board. Do you think he's on to give off about the Antrim players stealing his song?
Strange coincidence.

I thought he was dead. Mind you, even on that basis, he could walk straight onto the county football team & we'd notice an immediate improvement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on June 13, 2008, 02:53:40 PM
Dont mind me, im just full of shit man!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 13, 2008, 09:21:32 PM
Does anyone know why there is a lack of football fixtures. Could the county board not see sense and have moved the November fixtures forward into June or got the league finished up at the start of october. The leagues will never be finished this year. Some clubs have 3 league fixtures to play until the start of september. Its f**king joke as usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on June 13, 2008, 11:06:46 PM
anyone know the score from u21 football championship final tonight at casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 13, 2008, 11:49:52 PM
cargin 1-8 st pauls 0-10

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on June 13, 2008, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on June 05, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
C.J, P.C

probably many more


P.C should be making his debut this Sunday for Down in New York.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on June 13, 2008, 11:58:40 PM
Peter Canavan??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 14, 2008, 10:31:01 PM
hard luck to St Pauls U-21's who came close last nite--pity they couldnt make a bit of a breakthrough

anyone at it?

has the standard dropped from the level St Gall's 6 in a row teams were playing at?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 15, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on June 15, 2008, 08:40:36 PM
Considering that every patch of Antrim land is covered by a club, then which clubs are neigbours of St Endas? I can only think of Pearses and Ardoyne. Is there an Aldegrove team? Where is there pitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2008, 10:12:08 AM
Aldergrove play in Crumlin. Ardoyne would most probably be the nearest club to Glengormley.

Some interesting results in the league yesterday. Looking at Cargin's results I'm not sure on current form they'll be a challenge for St Galls. They should be beating Portglenone by a lot more than a point if they're to have a chance. Maybe it's a post u21 hangover but they did get beat by Brigids the other week too. Looks like St Brigids will stay up comfortably and St Johns are in trouble too. Glenavy look to be doing well in division too beating Dunloy. Division 3 appears to have descended into a farce.

Three county seniors on the Cargin u21 team and St Pauls still ran them close so they must be relatively strong too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 16, 2008, 12:03:19 PM
If Cargin and St Galls meet it will be real close. Cargin have quality right through the team and we are just getting training going properly.

could be a point either way. but Portglenone i'm sure have other ideas.

anymore state side boys?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 16, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
James Loughrey is travelling through the U.S, obviously doesnt need the cash to play ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 16, 2008, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on June 16, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
James Loughrey is travelling through the U.S, obviously doesnt need the cash to play ball.

Obviously

Naomh Brid have laid on a motor and expenses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 16, 2008, 11:31:50 PM
James Loughrey is working in America in a job that doesn't involve fleecing rich ex pats.

He is taking a well deserved break from football for a few months. Has been on the go for club, uni and county for last 3/4 years non stop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 17, 2008, 10:32:43 PM
Sure hes only after workin for a year in Dublin for a year and must have plenty of doh to blow in USA

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 17, 2008, 10:50:56 PM
A placement year from uni...he'll  rolling in it?!?!

Anyway...back to the important stuff.

1) will Cargin be able to challenge St Galls at all?

2) when is the Tommy Murphy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 20, 2008, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 17, 2008, 10:50:56 PM
A placement year from uni...he'll  rolling in it?!?!

Anyway...back to the important stuff.

1) will Cargin be able to challenge St Galls at all?

2) when is the Tommy Murphy?

1) No

2) Who cares?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 23, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
Did I read it right that Cargin beat St Galls yesterday?
Any reports or anything? St Galls must have been missing a few then.

I care about the Tommy Murphy. We should be using Wicklow as a good example from last year. They got a good win in the first round of the championship earlier in the year (albeit they then went a blew it).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2008, 10:28:46 AM
How can anyone care about the Tommy Murphy Cup, the teams that are involved will be bear little resemblance to the teams that competed in the championship. I wouldnt read too much into Wicklow winning the Tommy Murphy and then beating a pathetic Kildare team this year. If for arguments sake we beat Sligo reserves in this years final will it make any difference come next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 07, 2008, 11:07:06 AM

NEWS FLASH

new management team for Naomh Gall, Duffin has walked away from the club, not sure of his reasons but the club is currently looking a manager.

who's available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 07, 2008, 11:23:45 AM
He could come in but working with 4 McGourty's would take it's toll on Mr Gormely, it all happened after we beat a poor Casements team last week. we play them in Championship, it may be different but i doubt it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 07, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
sure he works with them anyway ;)

winning the dressing room over would have been a major problem, a lot of ego's there and expectations. his record though speaks for itself football, county championship,  championship sevens finals and ulster final.

heard other rumours but will not put them on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 07, 2008, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 07, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
sure he works with them anyway ;)

winning the dressing room over would have been a major problem, a lot of ego's there and expectations. his record though speaks for itself football, county championship,  championship sevens finals and ulster final.

heard other rumours but will not put them on here

Ah go on, you know you want to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 07, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
It's bad enough having to put up with them for ten months of the year, without voluntarily giving up my holidays to listen to them. Even with the amount of money involved.

Still one of my colleagues has already been approached - and him only back at the weekend from saving the world.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 09, 2008, 09:04:23 PM
Not enough to keep John Laverty from going to Slaughneil anyway.

Conor John Pius (he never told you that) McGourty is long gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 09, 2008, 10:16:49 PM
John is very boring yes. Most Johns I know tend to tart it up  a bit. Like Jackie or Johnner or John Francis Xavier or Handsome John or Stern John.

I made the Pius bit up. That's his da's middle name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 09, 2008, 10:25:19 PM
It is a real name. His surname is O'Loane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 15, 2008, 08:45:36 PM
Irish News reckons James McCartan to replace Duffin. Won't come cheap. Will probably introduce very defensivley based tactics to replace the non-existent tactics at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 15, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Has Mc Cartan a track record of employing negative tactics, SS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 15, 2008, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 15, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Has Mc Cartan a track record of employing negative tactics, SS?

Have you ever seen a match involving one of his Queen's Sigerson sides? 12 men behind the ball, but having said that I feel his Sigerson teams over-achieved. Either three or four consecutive finals, with one win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 15, 2008, 10:43:45 PM
Not a bad Sigerson record I`d say, couldnt have been a whole lot better. Can see mc Gorts hand all over the appointment, so there must be some mutual admiration. Cant think St Galls would be the easiest job, nothing less than the AI club will satisfy the natives.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 16, 2008, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 15, 2008, 10:43:45 PM
Not a bad Sigerson record I`d say, couldnt have been a whole lot better. Can see mc Gorts hand all over the appointment, so there must be some mutual admiration. Cant think St Galls would be the easiest job, nothing less than the AI club will satisfy the natives.

If thats true bannside ....wave goodbye to any chance any tem in antrim had prior to the appointment. Especially yours...the Ports are up next...aren't they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Trouble Ahead on July 16, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
I hear that Mc Cartan is allegedly getting £200 per week plus expenses for the galls, and to top that Jody is allegedly lifting £1200 per month just from antrim, never mind Bredagh and his one off,s plus the teaching salary. I think its time i went into coaching it pays more!!!! Amateur sport my ass!!! No wonder no-one wants to play for him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2008, 11:57:40 AM
McCartan did a great job with Queens. The  team they had when he was there had nowhere near the "star quality" of the poly teams and even the likes of Sligo RTC at the time. He seemed to have them playing a very effective system, playing together as a team and had individuals, who were perhaps limited, playing well above themselves. He also could spot talent and had Justin Crozier and Paul McCominskey in as freshers. I'm not sure any fresher has played on a Queens team since McAnallen though maybe I'm wrong.

The test is not if they can hammer Portglenone - it's in Ulster. St Galls are way too good for Portglenone and only Cargin have the personnel to even threaten to challenge them. I'm not convinced Cargin have a man at the helm who can push them on to challenge St Galls though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2008, 05:20:59 PM
Speaking of men at the helm in Cargin, has to be said JC got his Cargin team playing great, fast and disciplined football. His reward was to get shafted!

The main thing with St Galls and Cargin is they have large panels, with plenty of competition for places. Thats what makes all the difference. Leaves the manager calling the shots, instead of a team that rolls up on match day and practically picks itself.

When the tail wags the dog its time to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2008, 06:07:05 PM
Trouble, probably best not going into the ins and outs of the whole payment thing, its a real can of worms.

What is your thinking on Antrims position when they next go to appoint managers. Should the board appoint an Antrim man who is honest and passionate and would do it for the love of his county, or should they go for an outsider with a proven track record and impressive CV. Problem is, the latter types will cost, because they ave a high stock level and they will have a "going rate" which usually involves a backroom team of trainers etc, and will be in big demand with ambitious club set ups!

As far as I know S/W have never asked for payment, but were astonished at the figures Jody was "allegedly" getting!

In retrospect Jody got himself a good deal, considering he has managed to take Antrim football backwards, but in reality his appointment smacked of amateurism, and what evidence is there of a genuine effort to get a manager with a proven track record.

In comparison, look at the appointment of Malachy O Rourke in Fermanagh. He wouldnt be a cheap option, but the difference was he had a PROVEN record, with THREE county titles in three different Ulster counties. He had a reputation as master tactition, man manager, and cute hoor. Jody took a schoolboys team.

I can think of ten good men who would take Antrim to a much higher level, and only one of them is a genuine Antrim man, still putting together a healthy CV.

Get the right management team in and I think the players would respond and results will follow. But there needs to be a genuine determined effort to get the right personnel in place, or else it will be more of the same old shite, and to be honest I`m getting tired of it!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 16, 2008, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2008, 11:57:40 AM
McCartan did a great job with Queens. The  team they had when he was there had nowhere near the "star quality" of the poly teams and even the likes of Sligo RTC at the time. He seemed to have them playing a very effective system, playing together as a team and had individuals, who were perhaps limited, playing well above themselves. He also could spot talent and had Justin Crozier and Paul McCominskey in as freshers. I'm not sure any fresher has played on a Queens team since McAnallen though maybe I'm wrong.

The test is not if they can hammer Portglenone - it's in Ulster. St Galls are way too good for Portglenone and only Cargin have the personnel to even threaten to challenge them. I'm not convinced Cargin have a man at the helm who can push them on to challenge St Galls though.

In my fresher year, aidan carr and gerard o kane started the final and gavin donaghy came on, trying to think if eoim mccartan was on as well but he may have been injured. Micheal o rourke played the next year also I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 16, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 15, 2008, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 15, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Has Mc Cartan a track record of employing negative tactics, SS?

Have you ever seen a match involving one of his Queen's Sigerson sides? 12 men behind the ball, but having said that I feel his Sigerson teams over-achieved. Either three or four consecutive finals, with one win.

You can hardly say they over achieve getting to four finals in a row there must be a bit of class, players like marty mcgrath, niall bogue, ciaran o reilly, aidan carr, gerard o kane, billie joe padden all county regulars and thats to name a few
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
How did Mc Cartan do in Burren, and just as a matter of interest, I wonder how he would stack up in the eyes of the Burren players versus current manager Damien Barton. One for the Down thread I suppose.

Max is 100% when he said that a good appointment for St Galls would not be a plus for the county preparations. I`ve long been of the opinion that when it comes to St Galls and Cargin, the real pride and passion would usually be club first.

Having said that, if Mc Cartan can match the aspirations of his "employers", and take them to an all -Ireland club title, that wouldnt necessarily be a bad thing for Antrim football. St Galls threw it away under Rafferty, a few players vastly underperformed on the big day when it was theirs for the taking, but the preparations were colossal and meticulous, and I believe Rafferty to be one of the best in the business.

His teams display against Nemo was the most discilplined an intense and awesome Ive ever seen from ANY group of Antrim players, keeping them scoreless from open play until the 43rd minute, in Portlaoise.

Jury out on Mc Cartan, only time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2008, 09:38:03 PM
I would concur that he over achieved. In the sigerson queens won under him they had a lot less talent, individually, than the poly. However collectively he had tactics and attitude spot on. I think compared to what they were up against I would say players like BJP, Dick Clerkin were reasonably average but good ball winners.

Like bannside said though -it would be interesting to see what Burren people think of him.

Any which way I would say St Galls will win the county title but it's further afield they will be looking.

On the county front - when's the Tommy Murphy? Anyone know the squad for it - anyone know who replaced the four who left? (assuming it was just four but I think there'll likely have been more)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2008, 09:13:45 AM
20. MICHEAL Ó RIABHAIGH MICHAEL REA BRACKAVILLE

eh? Controversial. A Tyrone man, playing in Tyrone for the Hill, but lining out for Antrim as a Brackaville man....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2008, 09:31:52 AM
All things considered that's not that bad a team...

I wonder if the two McCanns haven't been training as they obviously should start.

Who are we playing again anyway? Carlow is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2008, 09:39:36 AM
Half forward Hardstation?! Have you seen me shoot?
I'll take it as a opportunity to wear the saffron should not be passed up.
I'll lie in front of the full back line - well I'll do whatever Jody(Brolly) tells me to do...sir.
No St Galls men on there (as far as I know) so who'll be captain.

It is Carlow.
Think the same about the McCanns, imtommygunn. Michael McCann a show in.
Good to see big McCarry back. If others had half the commitment of that man we would be going places, he'd walk through a brick wall for you, never mind walk off the panel.

What does the fact its a decent team say about Antrim footballers? At least there is some heart in there?

On another note, would Wee James not have been a big mate of Shaws Road? Could we see a dramatic return to the St Galls fold for the prodigal son?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2008, 09:52:57 AM
McCarry and Convery are two boys who have shown admirable commitment over the years and to be honest haven't been treated with great respect considering so it's good to see them both getting  a game.

Having seen us play Carlow in the league we should, should, beat them however we did have Cuningham and McGourty that day. I think we should win by a few - but being Antrim there are no guarantees!

I'd have thought returning for St Galls wouldn't be too dramatic, a return for Antrim however...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Larry Duff on July 17, 2008, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 17, 2008, 09:39:36 AM
What does the fact its a decent team say about Antrim footballers?

For many of the panel it says that they may as well play in this pointless competition and get their grant money.  They only need to train when it suits them as long as they turn up on matchday.  

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2008, 10:39:23 AM
Wise up Larry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Larry Duff on July 17, 2008, 10:42:15 AM
Agree that credit must go to Convery and McCarry for their continued committment to the county when both have been poorly treated during Jody's tenure.  It must have been difficult for McCarry to sit out all year while Antrim failed to find a suitable partner for Joe that would allow McCann to line out on the 21.  Someone with his physical presence and drive would have been ideal for the rigours of div 4 football.   Even worse when Joe was injured and was replaced by Aidso, this was compounded when Lorcan Mulvey, a McCarry type player, took over in midfield in the latter stages of the Cavan game which would never have happened had McCarry been playing or even been an option from the bench.  
Obviously Jody knows best, why else go into a season with only two midfielders but carry six injured players on the panel for most of the campaign?

Sorry for going over old ground, on to Saturday.  Reasonable team, expect Jody to employ Brady in his usual roaving role leaving a "bot-two" man full-forward line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2008, 10:56:00 AM
Larry - do you mean McCann on the 21 or the 40? Would you have him Full Forward?
I assume you meant centre half - I think he'd be great in there, as seen a couple of times this year. Strong on the ball and can take a score.
It would be a toss up between him and Magill for CHF and FF and they could alternate.

Will Paul Close be playing in that defensive role again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2008, 11:28:39 AM
Would love to see McCann at CHF as well.

One of the main problems of Gormley's system, I think, is that he rarely puts a ball player in the HF line. He mainly loads it with workers in Gallagher, O'Neill and Niblock (sometimes Close too) but when they get the ball they are not accurate passers / scorers so the end result is never great. Hopefully Crozier will improve that though.

I'd guess Close will be working defensively.

I'd not put McCarry in Mulvey's league. Mulvery didn't even look half fit. While McCarry is slow to get started when he's going full pelt he can actually fairly move.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 17, 2008, 03:06:49 PM
obviously the McCanns have not been at training and have been dropped by Jody who uses his rule of no train no play. sticks to his guns that Jody.

on the team picked it looks starong enough to beat a poor Carlow team, whom i persume have trained as hard as we have.........

as for wee James taking the helm at Naomh Gall i was a little surprised, his name was not mentioned at the early stages and obviously some input from 'Shaws Road' will be very difficult for him to come in and employ his defensive tactis as we dont use them. and with only 4/5 weeks till championship i'm not sure if he can have any real impact. as i think it will be a straight fight with Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 17, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
Great to see Tony Convery back in a starting role. Definitely one of the classiest defenders in ulster football, with the full respect of all his peers. Big Marty will work all day, a quality badly lacking in the Cavan game. Great to see Kevin Brady make a full return too.

The three of them wouldnt have a decent enemy between them! Good luck lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 17, 2008, 10:48:14 PM
McCarry + Convery - a couple of tools :D :D :D
not as bad as thon boy Delargy though ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 17, 2008, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 17, 2008, 10:48:14 PM
McCarry + Convery - a couple of tools :D :D :D
not as bad as thon boy Delargy though ;D

:D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 17, 2008, 11:38:16 PM
we'd definetly give that team a run hardstation, i'd take PC for 1-5 from play, not for the first time!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on July 18, 2008, 08:43:20 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 17, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
Great to see Tony Convery back in a starting role. Definitely one of the classiest defenders in ulster football, with the full respect of all his peers.

If he was that good surely he would have been an automatic starter in the Antrim defence then  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2008, 10:10:27 AM
Sometimes you take the comments of fellow clubmen with a pinch of salt loughshore lad...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 18, 2008, 01:42:30 PM
Yo ho sleepy/mal.

For anyone to suggest TC aint county standard, I`d say its time you took up following a different sport. I`d say if you polled the fifty or so players that have been part of county squads for this last ten years, TC would be on most of their first teams.

Loughshore, I`d imagine Big Enda from your neck of the woods would have a healthy respect for him  - they have been in direct competition three or four times over the years.

Knowing Tony he wont want his merits discussed here in any case. He dosent owe Antrim football one jot and it says bucketloads about the man he is, that he remained on the squad all year watching inferior players getting the nod before him all year.

Getting away from that, anyone here going tomorrow? Surely to god we`ll be far too strong for Carlow!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bitta-Banter on July 18, 2008, 02:03:43 PM
How can you say you'll be too strong for Carlow after the Waterford and Tipperary results?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on July 18, 2008, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 18, 2008, 01:42:30 PM

Loughshore, I`d imagine Big Enda from your neck of the woods would have a healthy respect for him  - they have been in direct competition three or four times over the years.

Knowing Tony he wont want his merits discussed here in any case. He dosent owe Antrim football one jot and it says bucketloads about the man he is, that he remained on the squad all year watching inferior players getting the nod before him all year.


A decent player he may be but one of the classiest defenders in Ulster - I dont think so. Thats a very, very strong statement to make and one that is very over the top in my opinion. Big Enda may hold him in high regard but then again Enda is a decent sort who wouldnt really have a bad word to say about anyone.  I am sure Enda holds many defenders in high regard but I seriously doubt he rates all those players as amongst the classiest defenders in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 18, 2008, 02:09:42 PM
your up bannside, that was some lie in you had :D
i know big tone and marty well and your too easily wound up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 18, 2008, 02:16:03 PM
Fair enough LSL, one of the classiest in Ulster a bit fanciful, maybe smacked of parochialism a tad, ITG, but its not OTT to say he def should be in Antrims 2-7, a long way better than some preferred this year.

Even Big hoof wouldnt disagree, played with him a time or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 18, 2008, 02:23:37 PM
we will agree on that bannside, a class player, and a good lad too. but if you needed hit on the pitch he wouldnt be behind the door either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on July 19, 2008, 05:22:08 PM
Tommy Murphy Cup round one

ANTRIM 1-10 0-11 CARLOW (result)

The mighty Saffrons are on a roll again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 19, 2008, 05:25:35 PM
Sligo must be hot favs for the TM if they take it seriously??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 19, 2008, 05:28:46 PM
I now predict Monty will win the Open with a sparking 57 tomorrow ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on July 19, 2008, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 19, 2008, 05:23:15 PM
It was one of the worst games I've ever seen.
One step closer to Tommy though.

Did anyone star for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on July 19, 2008, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 19, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
No.

Not even Jody, with some astute tactical switches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2008, 05:47:14 PM
So is it London next then?

Could croke park be on the cards again this year...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 20, 2008, 06:36:24 PM
Any change of a wee report hardstation? A wee one...honest without being too harsh!

Will next week's Sunday round of club games be affected? Deja vu?
A last mintue defeat in croke would be too much for the ticker.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 20, 2008, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2008, 05:47:14 PM
So is it London next then?

Could croke park be on the cards again this year...

London it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 20, 2008, 08:04:45 PM
London will probably be a bridge too far then, judging by that summary. Me? I kept me £8 in my pocket.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 20, 2008, 08:11:46 PM
Yer a confident man then.

:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 20, 2008, 11:14:47 PM
Lads, we are a joke, an absolute f**king joke.

we have no pride in ourselves or each other

I was in fermanagh and the atmosphere and sense of togetherness that those people have is something i could never say us having. All we do is sleg each other and put each other and our teams down(teammates included)

there is a f**king serious apathy to our county teams--many of the boys on the teams are too light and not even wirey, we need boys rippin into the weights and staying off drink, drinking protein flat out from they are 17, dying to get on the County team --but why would you wanna get on the County team, when all you do is get slagged and half the boys on the panel dont give a f**k and swall before games (i mean could you imagine that in Armagh)

people in antrim and in belfast in particular are magic at knockin each other and slabberin at each other and crying to referees in games and cryin to papers that they are victims(not just in sport). we are f**king pathetic at the moment--i saw our flag at Clones today as part of the 9 counties and thought i wonder what people from other counties think when they see it--they probably think we should just give up, that we are the poor relations and are shite, morons.

fermanagh have these songs out, Fantastic Fermanagh one is called, they were pumpin it out flat out and although it is cheesy noone was knockin it, they were just havin the craic and enjoyin the good times, could you imagine a song being produced like that for antrim? all the knockers of the day would be going "fack aff, fackin dickheads, fackin ballacks"

in short there is no basis for a successful team coming from our county in the future

we dont have the balls to believe, its too easy to knock and remain less than mediocre

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 21, 2008, 04:05:18 PM
100% Gold.

I particularly like your post re bulking up our players. Weve been sending boys out against men for a long time now.

I could put up with under-achievement at senior level if I was sure that we were working harder than everyone else at under-age, to close the gap. But what we have in reality is the exact opposite.

Even at u-21 level the apathy is frightening. Last year the u-21 hurlers werent given any consideration, and this year it was the football. Hardly worth bothering about, just a nuisance. Got what we deserved. Tanked.

We need a clear action plan for PROPER development of our juveniles in both codes, not the excuse that passes for same at present.

We should really hold our head in shame at the way our juveniles are being treated. And dont talk to me about our widely publicised best ever in Ireland strategic reports. As far as I can see we havent made an ounce of progress at any age group, in any code, or in any area, with possible exception of NA under age hurling development.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 24, 2008, 10:18:51 PM
If Antrim win the TM cup ,would it be enough to keep Gormley in his job??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 24, 2008, 10:45:14 PM
In any county with a bit of savvy, no. The man has absolutely no idea, not a clue.

In Antrim, who knows! Anything is possible. Throw a mile radius of Casement one more time and you wouldnt know what youd get.
PJ for the third time. Whitey, Ray Mc Donnell, Grievisie again, Aidan Thornberry, God knows what would turn up.

The review of our senior management positionsis, by far the biggest test of our county board, who up to now have enjoyed unprecedented support. Time for strong, radical leadership, and not the mickey mouse plan B thats going about.

Has to go back to the clubs. If any club wishes to propose Jody for another year, thats fine, thats democracy, lets have the debate. One thing for sure, no amateur quick fix this time round. Saffron sweep tickets hard enough to sell!

Take Sept and Nov and throw the net far and wide, short list and interview half a dozen, and lets get it right this time. Or else just go fo Whitey and Rogy now and we`ll all just pack it in and go away.

Nothing against Whitey or Rogy. Both great Antrim men. But this time round we really do need to have the debate, and to shortlist the very best. If Whitey and Rogy come out top of the pile, then we can live with that. Even they will have the soundness to respect that process.

But we must go into overdrive to get the very best, and support them fully in every way.

No unproven, schoolboy managers please. Nothing less than a proven CV will be tolerated. End of !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on July 25, 2008, 12:35:57 PM
how about mickey moran? one of the top managers in the country, excellent coach, know him from UUJ, he is currently residig in the county, hes worth trying to get on board to replace jody? anyone agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 25, 2008, 03:44:51 PM
Mickey Moran has the type of CV we need to be checking out, and would be an excellent candidate. A brilliant coach, well respected with the added bonus of two years working with a division one club team. def one for the short list. But would Mickey be interested in Antrim? I wonder
does he think we have the players to make an impact, or would he agree with Jodys sentiments that Antrim football is where its at for a reason, and thats our realistic level?




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 25, 2008, 03:55:13 PM
we could offer yez paddy crozier ...on the cheap like ?

mickey moran would be a great coach for you but he is also tactically naive and prob not strong enough or single minded enough to take on the antrim co board, belfast clubs v rural clubs issues etc.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the milkman on July 25, 2008, 11:13:38 PM
Would Antrim not try Moran and Brain White working together?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 25, 2008, 11:15:39 PM
Quote from: the milkman on July 25, 2008, 11:13:38 PM
Would Antrim not try Moran and Brain White working together?

Play on words?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 27, 2008, 04:29:28 PM
Antrim and Wicklow, the two best teams in the country who cannot get out of Div 4 ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 28, 2008, 11:48:07 AM
St Johns beat us in a very entertaining game last night, not entertaining in a quality game sense, but the carry on's off the ball and in the stand. i'm sure James McCartan is wondering what he's gotten himself into.

thought the Johnnies won the Championship after the game, Whack for the Diddle was being sung long after the final whistle. bar sales where up by 50%

on the game (when they actually played) St Johns were the better team and sets up a good game should we beat Portglenoe against them. but on our performance we would struggle to beat the Ports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 28, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Ah Milltown come on now - don't be giving everyone false hope for the C'ship!  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 28, 2008, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 28, 2008, 11:48:07 AM
St Johns beat us in a very entertaining game last night, not entertaining in a quality game sense, but the carry on's off the ball and in the stand. i'm sure James McCartan is wondering what he's gotten himself into.

thought the Johnnies won the Championship after the game, Whack for the Diddle was being sung long after the final whistle. bar sales where up by 50%

on the game (when they actually played) St Johns were the better team and sets up a good game should we beat Portglenoe against them. but on our performance we would struggle to beat the Ports

if thats the case ye must have gone back by some distance, because the Ports are a very poor team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
Milltown I'd take you boys by about +10 to beat Portglenone.

The Johnnies have been very very poor so far in the league this season. They will know they have to buck up or else they're for division 2 but would be unthinkable for the johnnies. That would probably explain if there were "goings on".

They can't even field a reserve team this year whatever is going on.

(Very poor considering the pick they have compared to some country clubs who struggle but still always put out reserve teams. Having said that always respected St Johns and I'm sure they have their reasons for this. I'd say the main one is they seem to think they will make it big in the hurling.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 28, 2008, 04:08:44 PM
By Antrim standards the Ports are not a poor team.
They could give St Galls a good game though I fear championship fever will kick in and St Galls will step it up.

Leagues and Antrim generally
How anyone is meant to "step it up" though is a tough one. The Antrim leagues are a complete joke. No momentum can be gained at all given that the fixtures are all over the place. I have no instant solution but something needs to be done and done for next year. How can anyone build a head of steam, improve, work on your game, correct mistakes made the previous week. Discussions are being had about blocks for football and blocks for hurling on different sites.
When you hear that Crossmaglen have wrapped up another league title in Armagh (I think I heard that?!) you have to think where we have gone wrong.  
The last 7 league games will be played in October/November.
If we played Cavan in November we'd be flying.

Tommy Murphy
A friend was telling me that yesterday in a league game when exchanging verbals with a current senior county football player that same player (who I would previously have regarded as a gentleman on the field) supposedly said "Are you coming to watch us at Croke next week?".
After paying £5 to watch the debacle that was Antrim London (was 5 mins late and pleaded with the auld men on the door) I wish I had kept my £5...this is the first time I have ever said I would rather have not been there when Antrim were playing.

Antrim and the players in it need to learn that they are and then change their position in Ulster as the whipping boys. Unless attitudes change, points such as those made by Gold earlier are listened to and the league format changes we're going nowhere, fast.

I was in two minds about heading down to the Tommy Murphy cup. I'm not now. If Antrim win I'll be a happy man...and they'll all go on the lash and delude themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2008, 04:28:08 PM
Dont miss too many, but couldnt get the interest level up high enough to make the trip to belshaft, especially with Monaghan and Donegal going to the wire live on telly. Heard it was poor stuff, further evidence we have not progressed one inch, but it gets us into a final, and we should be much more motivated for this one that Wicklow. Fair play to the lads for putting in the effort.

Who showed up well, did anyone have a good game?

When will venue be announced for final, anyone know?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 28, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
being discussed on main thread sat at 12.00 at croker before down/wex + tyrone/mayo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 28, 2008, 04:31:39 PM
Tommy Murphy Cup Final
Saturday 2nd August@ 12.00
Croke Park

Antrim v Wicklow

Croker will be 4 or 5% full if lucky at start of this match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 28, 2008, 04:45:42 PM
FIXTURE LIST

01.08.08 (Fri)
Christy Ring Cup
Final
Páirc an 7.30pm Iar Mhí v Ceatharlach
Chrócaigh Referee: TBC
(E.T. if Necessary)

02.08.08 (Sat)
Tommy Murphy Cup
Final
Páirc an 12.00pm Aontroim v Cill Mhantáin
Chrócaigh Referee: Vincent Neary (Maigh Eo)
(E.T. if Necessary)

GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship Qualifier
Round 3
Páirc an 2.00pm Loch Garman v An Dún Live RTE2
Chrócaigh Referee: Marty Duffy (Sligeach)
(E.T. if Necessary)

Páirc an 4.00pm Maigh Eo v Tír Eoghain Live RTE2
Chrócaigh Referee: Cormac Reilly (An Mhí)
(E.T. if Necessary)

Christy Ring Cup
Relegation Play Off
Portlaoise 5.00pm Londain v Ros Comáin
Referee: TBC
(E.T. if Necessary)

03.08.08 (Sun)
Nicky Rackard Cup
Final
Páirc an 12.00pm An Lú v Sligeach
Chrócaigh Referee: Sean Whelan (Loch Garman)
(E.T. if Necessary)

GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship Qualifier
Round 3
Páirc an 2.00pm Fear Manach v Cill Dara Live RTE2
Chrócaigh Referee: Aidan Mangan (Ciarraí)
(E.T. if Necessary)

Páirc an 4.00pm Ciarraí v Muineachán Live TV3
Chrócaigh Referee: Maurice Deegan (Laois)
(E.T. if Necessary)


In my mind no one showed up well. It was a dull affair that didn't get going at all.
The Cargin contingent looked on form but Michael McCann has the class to be completely dominating such games...and should be.
Same with Magill he looked good and if he passed a couple of times more Antrim would have won by more.

They are in the final of a competition they shouldn't be in as they should be Div 3 next year. Nonetheless I will be supporting them...in spirit.

Just speaking to a friend from Kerry - "Christ we only have 2 rounds of the league to go (out of 12 games, Kerry players have to play the last 2 rounds of the league). Antrim must be some joke!!!"
A direct quote.

I would write this on the Antrim site but would fear a backlash. All I want is some accountability/response for the fact there are 7 games in Oct/Nov. I don't know the answer but we need one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 28, 2008, 04:49:44 PM
Glensmen...Fair enough 7 matches are arranged in Oct/ Nov which is ridiculous but there is nothing stopping teams re-arranging these fixtures til the summer time if the club wants too. I'm sure the CCC would be happy to oblige
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 28, 2008, 06:32:27 PM
Stupid suggestion Two Hands. It is not for the clubs to be arranging fixtures.

There are enough issues fulfilling the stupid fixtures as it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 28, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
I agree. the leagues are a complete joke. How the hell are teams supposed to keep boys interested untill late november (and that is if all matches go ahead as planned) when they have been training from January and they talk about player burn out.

And if you think the CCC will happily rearrange fixtures your wrong, we have tried to rearrange a few fixtures with both clubs agreeing and the CCC wouldnt have any of it.

How can derry, down, armagh and all these counties get there leagues wrapped up and Antrim cant. A few years ago we played on a wednesday night and then a sunday and had the league finished at the start of october. Why could they not go back to this format.

Also the CCC kept persisting in arranging our senior and b matches at the same time in opposite ends of the county, which for a small club like ours (aghagallon) is extremely difficult. So my club plays our b team in the north armagh league and it a much better organised league than the antrim 4th division which our b team used to play in.

The CCC needs to take a good look at itself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 28, 2008, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 28, 2008, 11:48:07 AM
St Johns beat us in a very entertaining game last night, not entertaining in a quality game sense, but the carry on's off the ball and in the stand. i'm sure James McCartan is wondering what he's gotten himself into.

thought the Johnnies won the Championship after the game, Whack for the Diddle was being sung long after the final whistle. bar sales where up by 50%
on the game (when they actually played) St Johns were the better team and sets up a good game should we beat Portglenoe against them. but on our performance we would struggle to beat the Ports

It would appear that most of that was down to yourself. I take it you meant to write.

St. John's beat us in a very entertaining game last night. Whilst it was not entertaining in a 'quality game' sense, it was because of the carry ons off the ball and in the stand. I'm sure James McCartan is wondering what he's gotten himself into.

You would have thought the Johnnies had won the Championship [because of their celebrations] after the game; "Whack for the Diddle" was being sung long after the final whistle. Bar sales were up by 50%.

On the game (when they actually played), St John's were the better team and this sets up a good [Championship] game, should we beat Portglenone, against them. However, on our performance we would struggle to beat the Ports.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 29, 2008, 07:46:59 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 28, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
How can derry, down, armagh and all these counties get there leagues wrapped up and Antrim cant.

Those counties don't have meaningful hurling leagues to fit into the mix - with a serious amount of dual clubs - this is always going to be a problem even before the county player commitments are thrown into the mix - being part of the CCC is a job that nobody in their right mind would want to go near in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 29, 2008, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 28, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
Also the CCC kept persisting in arranging our senior and b matches at the same time in opposite ends of the county, which for a small club like ours (aghagallon) is extremely difficult. So my club plays our b team in the north armagh league and it a much better organised league than the antrim 4th division which our b team used to play in.

The CCC needs to take a good look at itself.
while I think this is a good idea,
how the hell did your club get dispensation to play under two diff juristictions !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2008, 03:31:54 PM
Saffron Sam, now during the summer months i stay of the demon drink so that i can be at peak fitness. with being a dual club i need to be ready for the all games. have tried to play less this year but seem to be playing more. kids these days could not be arsed.

Martin Cup Final to prepare for, need to impress wee James, might get a medal this year.

panel of 50 at training the other night ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 30, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 28, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
Also the CCC kept persisting in arranging our senior and b matches at the same time in opposite ends of the county, which for a small club like ours (aghagallon) is extremely difficult. So my club plays our b team in the north armagh league and it a much better organised league than the antrim 4th division which our b team used to play in.

The CCC needs to take a good look at itself.
while I think this is a good idea,
how the hell did your club get dispensation to play under two diff juristictions !

[/quote]

I dont know but we have been playing in armagh for years. Our under 8s, 10s, camogie teams and b teams all take part in north armagh league. Also the seniors play in the North Armagh championship. Most matches are in lurgan which is only 3 miles away from us and the most we would have to travel would be to Maghery (which is about 15-20mins away from us) and the league is far better organised than antrims so it makes since.

Quote from: aontroim on July 29, 2008, 07:46:59 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 28, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
How can derry, down, armagh and all these counties get there leagues wrapped up and Antrim cant.

Those counties don't have meaningful hurling leagues to fit into the mix - with a serious amount of dual clubs - this is always going to be a problem even before the county player commitments are thrown into the mix - being part of the CCC is a job that nobody in their right mind would want to go near in Antrim.

I agree that it must make the job harder with hurling but there must be a better way of doing this. Expecting fellas to train from january and play right through to november and december isnt on. We would have about 4 matches in 3 weeks and then not have another for about 6 weeks. The format of having a midweek and weekend match worked well the last time so why change it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 11:58:05 AM
we are very thin on conversation regarding the All Ireland final that Antrim will be playing tomorrow.

seems there is not a lot heading down for the 12.00 throw in.  might go down with a few from the club. don't think games is televised. how much for a ticket?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 01, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
Tickets on ticketmaster for the Sunday bouble bill are 30 euro.

Assume the saturday triple bill will be the same?

Tony Convery back in, Thomas McCann starts.
Magill and McCarry out.
Any word why? Thought Magill should definitely start after last week and McCarry a tad unlucky as he was better than Doherty last week.

1. SEAN MAG RIABHAIGH SEAN McGREEVEY NAOMH PÓL
2. COLM Ó BRADAIGH COLM BRADY NAOMH GALL
3. AINDRIU MAC GIOLLA EAIN ANDY McCLEAN NAOMH GALL
4. PÓL Ó CONALLAIN PAUL CONLON GORT NA MONA
5. ANTAINE Ó SCOLLAIN TONY SCULLION CLANN NA hEIREANN
6. ANTAINE MAC AINMHIRE TONY CONVERY MHIC ASMAINT
7. CAOIMHIN O BAOILL KEVIN O'BOYLE CLANN NA hEIREANN
8. PÓL Ó DOCHARTAIGH PAUL DOHERTY NAOMH MHUIRE
9. MICHEAL MAC CANA MICHAEL McCANN CLANN NA hEIREANN
10. PÓL Ó CLUASAIGH PAUL CLOSE UI DONNABHAIN ROSA
11. SAERBHREATHACH CRUISEIR JUSTIN CROZIER CLANN NA hEIREANN
12. BREANDAN Ó hOSAIN BENNY HASSON NAOMH MHUIRE
13. TOMAS MAC CANA THOMAS McCANN CLANN NA hEIREANN
14. CAOIMHIN Ó BRADAIGH KEVIN BRADY NAOMH EARGNAID
15. CIARAN Ó CLUASAIGH CIARAN CLOSE CLANN NA hEIREANN
16. SEAN MAC FIONMHACAIN JOHN FINUCANE LAMH DHEARG
17. SEOSAMH Ó COINNE JOE QUINN NAOMH PÓL
18. GABHANMAC GIOLLA MHAOIL GAVIN BELL UI DONNABHAIN ROSA
19. MAIRTIN MAC FHEARAIGH MARTIN McCARRY MHIC ASMAINT
20. CONNLAODH Ó TUATAIN CONLETH TOTTEN TIR NA N'OG
21. MICHEAL Ó RIABHAIGH MICHAEL REA BRACKAVILLE
22. MICHEAL MAC AN GHOILL MICHAEL MAGILL TIR NA N'OG
23. MARCAS Ó GREACHAIN MARK GRAHAM MHIC ASMAINT
24. CONCHUR Ó MUIRI CONOR MURRAY LAMH DHEARG
25. GEARARD MAC GIOLLA IOSA GERARD McALEESE MHIC ASMAINT
26. CAOIMHIN Ó MEARAIN KEVIN MARRON NAOMH EARGNAID
27. BREANDAN Ó MEARAIN BENNY MARRON NAOMH EARGNAID
28. EOIN Ó NEILL EOIN O'NEILL CLANN NA hEIREANN
29. CAOIMHIN NIBLOC KEVIN NIBLOCK NAOMH GALL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 01, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
pulling the middle out of himself likely :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 02, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
JODY MUST STAY ...out of the race to be the next Antrim Manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2008, 07:26:46 PM
Why, exactly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 06, 2008, 09:35:49 AM
God youse lads are pathetic, the first thing ye have won in years....and not as much as a word about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 06, 2008, 11:05:55 AM
Thought there would have been more about it on here myself, or at least the Jody debate reopened.
What do people think...he may stay to get us out of Div 4 and have a rattle at someone in a newly revamped qualifier system next year? Who will come back?
Is Kevin McGourty back playing club football?

As regards the match I didn't go down and only saw minimal highlights (are these online anywhere?).
Decent win. Hopefully we use it to move on.
Good article by Paddy Heaney in the Irish News yesterday about Kevin Brady. No man can question that having given a good 10 years to football they deserve something.

And to the Antrim championship this week:

My predictions (for what they are worth)

Antrim SFC

St. Brigids V Cargin (Cargin)
Creggan V Lamh Dhearg (Creggan)
Rasharkin V Dunloy (Rasharkin)
St. Pauls V Gort Na Mona (St Paul's)
St. Galls V Portglenone (St Gall's)

Antrim IFC

Ardoyne V Aldergrove (Ardoyne)
Glenravel V Tir na Nog (Tir na Nog)
Sarsfields V Moneyglass (Moneyglass)
Rossa V Glenavy (Rossa)
St. Endas V All Saints (St Enda's)
Aghagallon V Davitts (Aghagallon)

Antrim JFC

Sean McDermotts v St. Comgalls (McDermotts)
St. Malachys v O Donnells (St Malachys)
St. Teresas v St. Agnes (St Teresas)
Mitchels v Ballycastle (Ballycastle)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2008, 12:25:10 PM
St Brigids and Cargin should be interesting. It'll tell us where Brigids are really at.

I'd go with most predictions there except I think Glenavy will beat Rossa and Aldergrive Ardoyne. Not sure about the Glenravel match either.

ODonnells might be better than St Malachys too.

The game was streamed on the web though not sure of highlights. It was a good performance.  A much better line-up I think than championship. Convery at CHB works much better. Having a FF who can win ball works well too. Those two McCanns are very very good footballers too and having a HF line who can link play - well a CHF anyway works much much better.

Personally I think that 15 would have beat Cavan. As for next year I'd put Sean Kelly in - use Joe Quinn as an impact sub and forget about the rest of them boys. Without Cunningham / McGourty the team played a lot more as a unit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 06, 2008, 02:11:21 PM
Would have Kelly and Loughrey into the defence next year (direct replacements for O'Boyle and Conlon).
Magill to start and CJ (if his ego is curtailed) in. Think he adds more than Cunnigham and can get goals.

Cargin have too much through their team for Brigids. 6 starters on a successful Antrim team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2008, 02:47:20 PM
Tomas McCann we very impressive at the weekend too. Very good footballer - great pace.

Not sure I'd play Loughrey. O'Boyle to CB and Kelly in.

CJ impact sub. Close is a very good player too. (Ciaran not Paul...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 07, 2008, 12:32:18 AM
C.J is BACK
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 07, 2008, 10:39:43 AM
any bookies in antrim give odds for the club championship lads??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 07, 2008, 12:14:18 PM
evens each i'd say for Cargin and Naomh Gall, with St Pauls 2/1 along with Creggan, Portglenone and St Brigids 3/1 (well the they play the favourites first) and the rest 5/1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 07, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
Wouldnt have thought there would be joint favourtes. Based on previous performance/players at their disposal etc any bookies would put st galls clear faves I would say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on August 08, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
I'd say more like

St Galls 4/7
Cargin 11/10
St Pauls 6/1
Creggan 7/1
Portglenone 10/1
St Brigids 16/1
20/1 bar


If Portglenone weren't playing St Galls first I would have them 5/1 third favourites. Nothing surer than the fact that they will be going out at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2008, 02:50:10 PM
Will CJ be able to play?

Is there a 60 day rule (not sure of the specifics)?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Larry Duff on August 08, 2008, 02:55:31 PM
JODY'S GONE
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Larry Duff on August 08, 2008, 03:31:27 PM
Can anyone else confirm Jody's departure? Heard it's on the county website but find it hard to believe, surely he would have told the Irish News first ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on August 08, 2008, 03:40:15 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1185 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1185)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 08, 2008, 03:50:36 PM
Hmm, around 2 lines in all. Just about sums the whole era up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2008, 03:58:36 PM
Bit harsh play...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 04:42:36 PM
In a blaze of glory.

Latest betting:

Brian White 7-4
Paul Buchanan 9-2
Joe Kernan 6-1
Stan Staunton 10-1
Kevin McGourty 22-1
Sean McGourty 50-1
Hardstation 100-1
Saffron Sam 100-1
Sambo 150-1
Mickey Rea 150-1
Nuala O'Loan 150-1
Gerry Adams 500-1
Ian Paisley Junr 500-1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 04:50:24 PM

Gormley quits Antrim football job

Jody Gormley has stepped down as Antrim football manager despite last week's Tommy Murphy Cup final success.

Gormley informed Antrim county board chairman John McSparron of his decision on Friday afternoon.

Tyrone native Gormley appeared to indicate after last week's win over Wicklow that he would stay in charge for his scheduled third season.

However, he clearly had a rethink and former manager Brian White is already being linked with the vacancy post.

White previously managed Derry between 1999 and 2002 and his Saffron team went agonisingly close to beating Derry in the Ulster semi-final before losing the replay.

County chairman John McSparran told BBC Sport that he "wasn't surprised" by Gormley's departure.

Gormley appeared very demoralised after his team's Ulster Championship defeat by Cavan in May.

Antrim were well in the contest for more than half of the game before folding against a limited enough Breffni outfit.

The decision of squad captain Sean Kelly and his St Gall's team-mates Terry O'Neill, CJ McGourty and Aodhan Gallagher to quit the panel may also been a factor in Gormley's decision.

All four did not want to play in the Tommy Murphy after the Ulster SFC defeat by Cavan.

Antrim did claim the Tommy Murphy Cup but while it was some silverware, the reality was the Saffrons defeated Carlow, London and Wicklow in the competition.

BBC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on August 08, 2008, 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 04:50:24 PM

Gormley quits Antrim football job

Jody Gormley has stepped down as Antrim football manager despite last week's Tommy Murphy Cup final success.

Gormley informed Antrim county board chairman John McSparron of his decision on Friday afternoon.

Tyrone native Gormley appeared to indicate after last week's win over Wicklow that he would stay in charge for his scheduled third season.

However, he clearly had a rethink and former manager Brian White is already being linked with the vacancy post.

White previously managed Derry between 1999 and 2002 and his Saffron team went agonisingly close to beating Derry in the Ulster semi-final before losing the replay.

County chairman John McSparran told BBC Sport that he "wasn't surprised" by Gormley's departure.

Gormley appeared very demoralised after his team's Ulster Championship defeat by Cavan in May.

Antrim were well in the contest for more than half of the game before folding against a limited enough Breffni outfit.

The decision of squad captain Sean Kelly and his St Gall's team-mates Terry O'Neill, CJ McGourty and Aodhan Gallagher to quit the panel may also been a factor in Gormley's decision.

All four did not want to play in the Tommy Murphy after the Ulster SFC defeat by Cavan.

Antrim did claim the Tommy Murphy Cup but while it was some silverware, the reality was the Saffrons defeated Carlow, London and Wicklow in the competition.

BBC



Typical bbc  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on August 09, 2008, 06:48:55 PM
heard it was something to do with pay, that jody resigned! dunno just a rumour i heard off  a lad yesterday!

get mickey moran in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 10, 2008, 08:43:57 AM
Antrim SFC - 2008

Rasharkin  1-10 v 1-9 Dunloy  
St. Brigids  1-10 v 1-18 Cargin
Creggan Kickhams  3-6 v 0-16 Lamh Dhearg

Surprised at Creggan getting beat in this one.

Antrim IFC - 2008

Glenravel  1-10 v 2-10 Tir na Nog
Sarsfields  3-3 v 0-18 Moneyglass    
Ardoyne  1-4 v 0-8 Aldergrove

Antrim JFC - 2008

Mitchels  2-7 v 4-14 Ballycastle
Sean McDermotts  4-16 v 0-7 St. Comgalls
St. Malachys  0-10 v 0-5 O Donnells
St. Teresas  4-13 v 1-10 St. Agnes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on August 10, 2008, 02:08:42 PM
Quote from: milkman mk II on August 09, 2008, 06:48:55 PM
heard it was something to do with pay, that jody resigned! dunno just a rumour i heard off  a lad yesterday!

get mickey moran in!

jody was getting £1200 a month from antrim. thats fact. anyone on the county committee would tell you the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 10, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 10, 2008, 02:08:42 PM
Quote from: milkman mk II on August 09, 2008, 06:48:55 PM
heard it was something to do with pay, that jody resigned! dunno just a rumour i heard off  a lad yesterday!

get mickey moran in!

jody was getting £1200 a month from antrim. thats fact. anyone on the county committee would tell you the same

Money well spent I am sure you will all agree!

:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: youngfella on August 10, 2008, 03:29:26 PM
Whos the favorites for JFC  ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 10, 2008, 07:05:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
If any bookie is still offering odds, put the house on St.Gall's for the championship. Sorry, Cargin, you haven't a hope. Serious outfit.

Next Antrim manager - Kieran McGourty is a must on the 40. Excellant footballer. I'd rate him better than the other two McGourtys. Great brain, great feet, balls of steel, will fly into any challenge to win a ball, best link man in the county. Kevin, for all his faults, is a pleasure to watch, when in a good mood, like he was today. Stick him in full forward. Great player. Just needs to relax and enjoy the game. Will skin any full back.

I could say stick saffron jerseys on the St. Gall's team and let them go but that mightn't go down well. They'd do better than any other team we send out.

What was the final score then HS??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 10, 2008, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2008, 07:12:54 PM
2-17 to 1-07.
Portglenone goal came from a very handy penalty.

who got the st galls goals? was cj playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 10, 2008, 07:20:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2008, 07:16:57 PM
CJ was in the bar at half time, so no.

Kevin McGourty scored the strangest goal after a minute of play. The PGO 'keeper tried to handpass it over his head, McGourty put his hand up, hit his hand and went in. Nearly sure Karl Stewart got the second.

Cheers

Was gonna back them if I could get a price before today but now there would be no point, I would say I wouldnt get much of a price for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 10, 2008, 08:50:08 PM
Always thought Kieran had more between the ears than the others. A tidy, intelligent footballers. Glenavy the new Kerry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2008, 09:44:13 PM
The worst about the St Galls result is that Portglenone are probably the third best team in the county. I think they're better than St Pauls. Cargin will give them a much better game but hard to see them beating St Galls.

With regards to the junior I think St Teresas will win it. St Galls, Moneyglass and St Teresa will probably win their respective championships IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 11, 2008, 09:46:40 AM
Embarrassing, that's all I can say about our game on Sunday. First minute, the goal keeper gave away the worst goal ever. Match over as a contest there and then. I don't know what the Johnnies men or the Cargin men who were watching will take out of it.

Why Portglenone left the number 7 on Kevin McGourty the whole match was a mystery. And how the number 4 stayed on the pitch for PGO. Anyway, St Johns will be up for the match but with the game at Casement, bigger pitch and less volatile than Corrigan. I think we may win by 5 and set up a semi final (final) against Cargin. Lamhs the real shock of the weekend.
Watched some of the Rossa, Glenavy game, Colly McAllister seems to have Glenavy playing good football. Rossa managed to get two goals at the end but the game was over by this stage

Any other reports from the other games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2008, 11:41:24 AM
Watched Dunloy Rasharkin at the weekend

Struggle to see why hurling is not encouraged more than it is in alot of clubs. Football is a decent game to play but watching it is a different experience altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 11, 2008, 11:48:16 AM
great clubman that i am, i left with 15 mins to go :P Cork v Kilkenny seemed a better choice, glad i did, a serious rain shower came after i left
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2008, 12:22:59 PM
There are only really two good club teams in Antrim skull who can really play football so to be honest in most other cases you're not going to get a good game.

Rasharkin are improving a lot in the hurling too - seem to be putting a lot more effort in. Sure if they'd young Doherty too they'd be a lot better ;-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 11, 2008, 08:30:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2008, 08:50:08 PM
Always thought Kieran had more between the ears than the others. A tidy, intelligent footballers. Glenavy the new Kerry.

Kieran seems to be more like the Harbinsons. The other two take after their da.

Quote from: milltown row on August 11, 2008, 09:46:40 AM
Watched some of the Rossa, Glenavy game, Colly McAllister seems to have Glenavy playing good football.

So that's who the self-styled 'miracle worker' is managing this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 12, 2008, 10:20:38 AM
was anyone at the st pauls versus gorts match at weekend?
did anyone hear why barry burns was sent off, was it straight red ?

big loss for them if it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 12, 2008, 06:30:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2008, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on August 12, 2008, 10:20:38 AM
was anyone at the st pauls versus gorts match at weekend?
did anyone hear why barry burns was sent off, was it straight red ?

big loss for them if it was.
"Off the ball incident" "Got his marching orders" "Gort na Mona's Colm Keenan received a yellow for his involvement"

Ah, good to see Keeny has carried his, how can I put this, "confrontational" attitude on to senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on August 12, 2008, 06:59:02 PM
interesting tie in for glenavy in next round for glenavy in next round of intermediate championship, moneyglass! top and bottom of division 2! seen a bit of their match before galls match, look a decent outfit!

galls destroyed portglenone, just didnt show up!

what do people think of the two possible contenders for antrim managers position mentioned in irish news? madden and rafferty!
personally i wud be happy with either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2008, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: milkman mk II on August 12, 2008, 06:59:02 PM
interesting tie in for glenavy in next round for glenavy in next round of intermediate championship, moneyglass! top and bottom of division 2!

Surely top 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2008, 10:28:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2008, 08:27:32 PM
Heard a big cheer after that. Not sure what it was.


Saffron Sam paid for a round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on August 12, 2008, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2008, 08:27:32 PM
Heard a big cheer after that. Not sure what it was.

News broke that Brian White is on the verge of taking over the toughest job in ulster football once again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2008, 02:48:51 PM
Cargin v St Galls tonight...will either team show their hand before the inevitable championship meet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 13, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Cargin will as usual go flat out against us tonight down there. setting a marker for the Championship (if we beat the the Johnnies) i'd say St Galls will play a full strength team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2008, 03:57:45 PM
Looking forward to a full report tomorrow Milltown!

How is McCartan being received within the club, spicing things up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on August 13, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
Why would McCartan have an issue with westmeath?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 13, 2008, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 13, 2008, 04:02:27 PM
I hear a St.Gall's player (not sure who) turned up for training wearing a Westmeath jersey and McCartan chinned him. Any truth, milltown?

that was bit below the chin...I mean belt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 13, 2008, 05:21:13 PM
If I thought that Cargin and St Galls would go at each other full pelt tonight I would go to the game. Mc Cartan will want to set down his own marker, and Sheeny wont want shown up on home soil, so could be worth the admittance money.

Was at casement for the minor semis, and the un-official showdown between young mc larnon and young fleming, a very interesting side affair.

Creggan and Cargin the making of a good final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread Bannside
Post by: CSC on August 13, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
"and the un-official showdown between young mc larnon and young fleming"

What's the full story?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2008, 10:26:55 PM
Not sure if you're joking or not slow corner back:

http://www.downgaa.net/downgaa/football/county/news/2003/mccartancharged_assault_downdemocrat.htm.

Galls beat Cargin
Johnnie beat St Pauls (Johnnies hitting form at right time)
Lamh Dhearg beat Brigids

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 13, 2008, 10:54:57 PM
Scores per antrimgaa website:

St. Brigids  0-12 1-13 Lamh Dhearg   
Cargin  1-14 2-8 St. Galls   
St. Johns  0-10 0-5 St. Pauls 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2008, 11:53:29 PM
Apologies. I even read the result, knew it and then wrote the wrong thing down. Maybe force of habit.

Certainly throws the cat among the pigeons.

Can you imagine McCartan and Sheeny going toe to toe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2008, 08:53:02 AM
was not at the match last night, minors needed a challenge game in prep for the Rossa championship game.

i hear that Cargin scored a goal very late on to win the match. hopefully that will jolt them after Sundays excuse of a game (no offence any portglenone posters)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on August 14, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 14, 2008, 11:01:57 PM
I heard a wee rumour that Sean Fleming will be the Rossa manager next year. Take from that what you want.....

May be hearsay.

Are they even still together??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAmuWvKhIs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: robertemmet on August 18, 2008, 11:43:41 AM
Is that Sean Fleming that was in charge of Antrim Minors this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on August 18, 2008, 05:28:14 PM
many games called off at the weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 19, 2008, 09:51:17 PM
May the spirit, passion, and enthusiasm of Paddy O Hara be remembered tomorrow, Wed am, as a true Antrim great is laid to rest.
As a player, a coach and manager, a journalist, an ambassador, a gael, and a person, Paddy O Hara had few equals. May he rest in peace.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 21, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
Lads
It seems Jody Gormley is one of the top candidates for the Cavan Jobs,
Anytime ive read this thread,the opinions on him werent overly positive(thats saying it in a nice way)
whats the opinion on him now hes gone after winning the TM Cup???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2008, 08:04:13 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on August 14, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 14, 2008, 11:01:57 PM
I heard a wee rumour that Sean Fleming will be the Rossa manager next year. Take from that what you want.....

May be hearsay.

Are they even still together??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAmuWvKhIs

magic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on August 21, 2008, 10:06:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 21, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
Lads
It seems Jody Gormley is one of the top candidates for the Cavan Jobs,
Anytime ive read this thread,the opinions on him werent overly positive(thats saying it in a nice way)
whats the opinion on him now hes gone after winning the TM Cup???

A sad loss to Antrim football. You guys should snap him up before someone else does.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Larry Duff on August 22, 2008, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 21, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
Lads
It seems Jody Gormley is one of the top candidates for the Cavan Jobs,
Anytime ive read this thread,the opinions on him werent overly positive(thats saying it in a nice way)
whats the opinion on him now hes gone after winning the TM Cup???

I think he would be the perfect man for the job. Despite some varying results he is a very capable manager at this level.


I take it managers job he's being linked with is at St Patrick's College, Cavan  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 22, 2008, 12:32:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 19, 2008, 09:51:17 PM
May the spirit, passion, and enthusiasm of Paddy O Hara be remembered tomorrow, Wed am, as a true Antrim great is laid to rest.
As a player, a coach and manager, a journalist, an ambassador, a gael, and a person, Paddy O Hara had few equals. May he rest in peace.


surprised there wasn't more talk about this man on this thread. One of the truely great men of Antrim and football in general. He did an awful lot for the game both on the field and off it. RIP.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 22, 2008, 05:24:42 PM
When you think he managed six different ulster counties, in the days when it really would have been for the love of the game! They dont make them like that any more, thats for sure. A unique man in many ways. Way ahead of his time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mourne Rover on August 22, 2008, 10:06:49 PM
The BBC website has a headline saying that `St Gall's crashed out' of the Antrim SFC tonight, which would be quite a story. Closer inspection reveals that that it was St Paul's who lost, so Antrim should really put a stop to these teams with rhyming names.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on August 22, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Mourne Rover on August 22, 2008, 10:06:49 PM
The BBC website has a headline saying that `St Gall's crashed out' of the Antrim SFC tonight, which would be quite a story. Closer inspection reveals that that it was St Paul's who lost, so Antrim should really put a stop to these teams with rhyming names.

You have to take every gaa story on the bbc website with a pinch of salt!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mourne Rover on August 23, 2008, 12:41:15 AM
The BBC has now corrected it, so someone is paying attention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on August 23, 2008, 01:31:49 AM
championship games this weekend, any previews, predicitons?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 23, 2008, 09:04:50 AM
From BBC NI Website - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7574130.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7574130.stm)

GAA visionary
By Jerome Quinn

Paddy O'Hara worked with BBC NI for more than 25 years

"Score again Derry 2-10 Donegal 1-8".

That's how Paddy O'Hara always finished his Radio Ulster reports.

"Score again" And I mean always. A BBC producer once complained about this habit, but there was no changing Paddy.

On another occasion, I suggested that he include things like the attendance and scoring statistics in his reports.

Paddy resisted, saying that he would use the allocated one minute to simply tell listeners "who won and why".

At the time I was a fresh-faced radio producer trying to tell a legend how to do reports the new way, but in hindsight I'd have to say Paddy was right. Listeners tuned in to hear his opinion, simple as that.

After all, 'Wee Paddy' had been there, done that, and worn the tee-shirt with six different counties, not just Antrim.

Among his successes was an All Ireland Junior Championship with Fermanagh in 1959.

The Erne connection developed partly through his beloved Queen's where he was popular with Fermanagh students.

Paddy joked that this was because he was the only one about Belfast in those days with a car big enough to take them all home for training!

He also spent a short time in Donegal, where they weren't quite ready for his modern coaching methods.

When officials asked Paddy what he required for training the county team, he asked for fifteen footballs.

"Jaysus Paddy, sure we don't have 15 footballs in the whole county!"

Paddy was ahead of his time, just like the Antrim team he played on 20 years earlier.

Raymond Smith's 'Football Immortals' book states that the new Ulster champions of 1946 had "stormed through the championship with their weaving style of open handpassing, breaking a 33-years Cavan spell of dominance".

Kerry put a stop to Antrim's free-flowing game in the All Ireland Semi-finals with methods that provoked an objection to Croke Park from the county board.

Only for that, Antrim might well have created history by bringing Sam over the border, 14 years before Down achieved the feat.

The Saffrons tried again in 1951 but Meath went ten points clear early in the second-half.

A mighty effort saw the gap close to two by the finish and Antrim were left to rue a disallowed goal, recalled by Paddy's team-mate Harry O'Neill.

"Pat O'Hara saw that a Meath defender was going to trip him and with clever anticipation he hopped over the outstretched foot and kicked the ball to the net," said Harry.

"The whistle went almost simultaneously with the kick in the one of the clearest instances where the application of the Advantage Rule would have made all the difference."

With that dream gone, Paddy helped others achieve their dreams - Sigerson winners at Queen's University and Down players like his great friend Sean O'Neill.

In the 1970s, the BBC enlisted Paddy as a GAA reporter and for the next quarter of a century his name and distinctive voice became as popular and respected in the northern part of the island as Micheál Ó Hehir and Micheal O Muircheartaigh.

And, in smoke-filled hotel rooms in Dublin, he battled it out with the leading journalists of the day to select the annual All Star football and hurling teams.

These 'debates' ran into the early hours and often became heated, but Paddy was always very clear on one point - sportsmanship was a prime factor in any player winning an award.

Let's just say he wasn't pleased when the rules were changed to allow players to win All Stars even if they had been sent off in the same year.

Around the same time, I had the pleasure of travelling round several Ulster counties with Paddy as part of research for a book.

His charm, craic and incredible recall brought the best out in everyone we met, from Ross Carr in Newry to Jimmy Smyth in Lurgan and Art McRory in Dungannon.

When I think of Paddy, I have a picture in my mind of him in a pin stripe suit and runners.

He liked to look sharp and yet be on his toes. Mind you, he needed to be because everyone wanted to shake his hand and stop for a chat at games when Paddy had deadlines to meet.

Still, he always had a beaming smile, a hearty hello and genuine concern for them all.

That was Paddy O'Hara, Belfast, Queen's and Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
Rasharkin beat St Pauls last night. Great win for them.

St Galls and St Johns should be a messy affair. St Galls by 8.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 25, 2008, 12:48:04 PM
Was anyone at any of the championship games over the weekend? Any reports / controversy??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2008, 05:34:22 PM
Saw two c`ship games, both intermediate.

Ahoghill and All Saints good close fought game, plenty local rivalry, and then the PL factor. Ballymena won by a few points with some good performances. Good to see the two Walshes out going well, Aidan and Tiernan, and Peter Mc Nicholl, a player with great talent, ex international baskerballer, and not far short of county standard. Having said that lowly Ahoghill made them fight every inch of the way.

Also at Moneyglass V Glenavy on Sunday. A really polished performance from Moneyglass that would have beaten most senior teams. To beat Glenavy by 13, who had earlier put away Rossa easily, was no mean feat. Kevin Brady rolled back the years, pulling all the strings, top class, with very impressive displays by big Mc Keefrey and Kevin Marron, now possibly the strongest midfield pairing in the county. Also impressed with Ryan Doyle at full forward and would see Ryan Boyd a good player with a few pounds off.

Apparently Glenavy had three big players absent, inc Dominic Gallagher, and thats a big loss to any side. Impressed with Conor Creaney and Neil Mc Cann, poss one for the future.

Moneyglass to go well in Ulster intermediate on last nights performance.

Hardstation, we would kind of know the St Galls players at this stage, but did any St Johns players step up yesterday, look like potential co players. Bam, Mc Glinch, Kelly etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2008, 05:56:57 PM
Rate Gill very highly HS, def another worth a look at, at a higher level, but didnt really get on to my radar last night. Maybe it was me not looking hard enough!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 25, 2008, 08:12:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 25, 2008, 05:34:22 PM
Saw two c`ship games, both intermediate.

Ahoghill and All Saints good close fought game, plenty local rivalry, and then the PL factor. Ballymena won by a few points with some good performances. Good to see the two Walshes out going well, Aidan and Tiernan, and Peter Mc Nicholl, a player with great talent, ex international baskerballer, and not far short of county standard. Having said that lowly Ahoghill made them fight every inch of the way.

Also at Moneyglass V Glenavy on Sunday. A really polished performance from Moneyglass that would have beaten most senior teams. To beat Glenavy by 13, who had earlier put away Rossa easily, was no mean feat. Kevin Brady rolled back the years, pulling all the strings, top class, with very impressive displays by big Mc Keefrey and Kevin Marron, now possibly the strongest midfield pairing in the county. Also impressed with Ryan Doyle at full forward and would see Ryan Boyd a good player with a few pounds off.

Apparently Glenavy had three big players absent, inc Dominic Gallagher, and thats a big loss to any side. Impressed with Conor Creaney and Neil Mc Cann, poss one for the future.

Moneyglass to go well in Ulster intermediate on last nights performance.

Hardstation, we would kind of know the St Galls players at this stage, but did any St Johns players step up yesterday, look like potential co players. Bam, Mc Glinch, Kelly etc?

Are they any relation of Brian's? He wouldn't have any boys that age yet, would he?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2008, 08:37:18 PM
Naw SS2, Brians lads not that age yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 25, 2008, 08:42:44 PM
Didn't think so. Is he still playing himself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2008, 10:50:47 PM
Managing u 16 and doing a decent job. Top lad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 26, 2008, 02:04:20 AM
From my memories of Bam at U16 and Minor, he was like numerous other Johnnies at the time, incredibly talented yet incredibly mouthy and incapable of playing as part of a team- never seemed to trust the talent of others. In the 2005 Minor Championship we bate them out of Corrigan by 20 odd points and I think he scored the entire Johnny total of 1-05. Was thinking about the Johnnies a few weeks ago and was wondering if Sean Rooney ever made it to their senior team?

Was in school with Eoghan Gill. Very, very good footballer. Quick, strong, skillful, with a geat pair of hands. Did a lot of running back in school so was always very fit. He went off the rails a bit on drink, didn't know he was still playing football- good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 26, 2008, 10:14:25 AM
great result for rasharkin on friday night beating a much fancied st pauls team.
they got out of the blocks far quicker than st pauls and really should have been up by more at half-time, they led 1-6 to 0-2, i think.
st pauls got back into it at start of second half & got back on level terms with about ten mins to go.
i thought rasharkin would have shit the nest at that stage but they were able to just keep themselves in front as they had done for the whole match..
well fought and hard earned win, but lamh dhearg will be another tough match for them.

think the standard of reffing in both sfc matches was poor, boths ways, very inconsistent.

in the galls match kevin mcgourty got closelined, ref gave free against him for overcarrying, some very disgruntled milltown men in stand.

both games next week should be tight enough affairs, thought they could have played them as double header but sure that would make too much sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 26, 2008, 11:25:55 AM
The game against the Johnnies was poor enough, I'm sure the Cargin lads who were at the match wont be too worried if Naomh Gall come out and play like that on Sunday...... I doubt though that Naomh Gall will play as bad.

St Johns played good football in the first half, good running game and were well supported but for a team to play like this the whole game requires good fitness and this showed midway through the second half. Scores became harder for them to get and we just managed to do enough to win the game.

The Cargin game will be of a higher intensity; at this stage I'd say Cargin are favourites. This is down to the head to head in the league and Naomh Galls poor form of late.

Should be a cracking game and the winner of the championship will come from this semi final, whether Lamhs or Rasharkin men like it or not they dont have enough to beat either team when they are on song
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on August 26, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
was also at the two intermediate champ games, ahoghill and ballymena, wasnt a bad game, but after seeing moneyglass pick glenavy off in the second half, i wud say moneyglass would be favourites for intermediate now, always thought it would be between glenavy moneyglass, who ever won out of that tie would prob go on to win it.

moneyglass midfielders dominated, though to be fair thought the ref was a bit harsh on glenavy at times.

mc keffrey should maybe be looked at for the county! wasnt that over impressed with gill, think glenavy where playing him chb, he shud be used in the forwards line as i hea he destroyed rossa up there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2008, 04:44:31 PM
Mc Keefrey def has made good progress since the few times I saw him play under Mickey Culbert. Looking fit and strong, and more athletic. He hits hard too! County standard yes. Liked "kindo" as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lurgan-gael on August 30, 2008, 01:42:13 PM
moneyglass have the small problem of gettn past the g's!
up the g's!!
Title: Naomh Gall 0-11 Cargin 1-06
Post by: gallsman on August 31, 2008, 09:41:05 PM
Galls by two. Pretty poor game. Cargin led 1-06 to 0-04 at half time and then didn't score in the second half while we got seven fairly good points to leave it at 0-11 to 1-06. Gave away a lot of frees in the first half that McCann had no bother putting over, think he got four or five. Crozier got a soft point from play when he was left completely unmarked. Cargin FF (Gerard O'Boyle??? If so, what's happened to him over the last five years or so, was he not the great white hope at some stage?) flicked the goal from a high ball that Gallagher failed miserably to challenge. Ciaran Gallagher, Terry O'Neill and Anto Healy were both very poor in the first half, with Gaga being replaced at half time by CJ. Gaga was beaten for pace every time, which I'm not sure I've seen before and McCann was getting the better of Anto constantly. It should be illegal for Terry to attempt a shot on goal. McCartan appeared to have no interest in changing players or trying anything new- he just strolled the sideline with his hands in his pockets. Niblock and Burkey playing well for Galls, Nibs carrying a lot of ball and taking big hits. Burkey giving out similar hits for us.

Second half and Galls had a great point inside ten seconds. Started a running game with Kel leading the charge that brought a great sequence of points, including ones from Healey and then Kel to put us a point up. Kept playing possession football, with Andy able to move up the pitch as Cargin chased the game. McCann missed three frees over the course of the half which were the only real sniffs of chances Cargin had. Andy got the insurance point a few minutes from the end when he fisted over after a great run up the field involving several exchanges.

Gregory Walsh had a reasonable game I thought, even ifhe was a bit free and easy wit his yellow cards. McGourtys all behaved better than normal, although Kevin got a yellow for something off the ball where his man ended up on the deck. He was up pretty quickly though, so I don't think there was anything too serious. Mouthing by and large kept to a minimum for once. Cargin seem to have a good few Aidan O'Mahoneys in their team, yes, I'm looking at you number 5!  Minor incident on steps into changing rooms at half time. Didn't see it due to both sets of clubs blocking the view but Kevin Niblock allegedly either threw or received an elbow. Handbags really by all accounts.

Few candidates for MOTM- Kel, Burkey, Niblock, Karl.

Deserving, if unconvincing, winners. Thoughts of another assault on the Ulster Championship seem a long, long way off.

Heard that Lambs won by a point on Saturday, not sure though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 31, 2008, 11:22:53 PM
Lamh Dhearg did indeed win by a point 1-13 2-9. Was chatting to someone today who said that Rasharkin were hard done by but seemingly they got two late goals.
Feel that Lamh Dhearg will give St Galls a better game.

The Galls Cargin game was a tight one but one that never really flowed and wasn't full of great football. Shame that Cargin didn't really come out in the second half.
For Cargin I thought their county plyers didn't exert the influence they should be...Mick McCann, Tomas McCann, Crozier (should be CHB), Scullion (the O'Mahoney candidate you speak of Gallsman) and to a lesser extent Close.
Kevin O'Boyle however proved that he's not far off the best defender in Antrim.

A bit of class and arguably fitness in the tank got St Galls through. McClean, Kelly played well. Niblock played grand but was not MOTD match and it was him who started the little incident on the way in...side of his game I hadn't seen before. St Galls never flowed in all honesty...not enough good ball went into Stewart who could have been dangerous and looked lively.

Alot of work to do for St Galls, agree about McCartan's approach...seemed a strange one. Stolling on the sideline, smiling and joking away but each to their own.

Was pretty disappointed with the refereeing in both games at Casement today (especially the first game Randalstown Ballymena).
Did either of the referees watch any of the Tyrone match at all...or any decent standard of match. It was so stop start it was appalling. No (hard) tackling of any sort allowed...when and if the Antrim teams hit Ulster for club or county they get a shock as to the hard hitting allowed. We need to see this at club football and fast.


The senior final will no doubt be a feisty one with a bit of history between the two of them.

Casement held up well with 6 games in 4 days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 31, 2008, 11:35:23 PM
Galls will beat Lambs by as much as they want--they couldnt care and wont get excited until they play Mayobridge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on September 01, 2008, 09:57:59 AM
As a Rasharkin man saturday nights match left a bitter taste in the mouth. While I didn't think Money-grabber Mullan was a good referee, I just really never realised he was so bad. To be fair he was bad for both teams. There were several times fans from both teams were left scratching their head in confusion at the award of some frees. Every time the ball came into our defence he either awarded a free in or a free out. Cunningham scored 8 points from frees while our full back line won about 15 frees. It was surreal watching it.

My main gripe would be the way he conducted himself during the last 5 minutes of the game when it was level.

First off all he sent one of our players off for an incident that no-one in the whole ground witnessed.

He then awarded Lamh Dearg a soft enough free to take the lead. He compounded that by blowing one of our players up for wasting time taking a free despite the fact we were getting beat.

To top the lot he blew the final whistle when we were on the attack with one of our players having 20 yards space in front of him.

All in all a draw probably would have been a fair result but to lose under those circumsatances was like a kick in the balls.

I hold no malice to Lamh Dearg because they had to play under the same circumstances and I hope they go on to win the final. Any team with Paddy Cunningham has a good chance to win because he is a classy finisher.

It just feels horrible not to get another crack at getting to our first final in 43 years due to the ineptitude of a referee. St Pauls are well rid of him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on September 01, 2008, 11:01:08 AM
Totally concur with your views GLF, he was scandalous to say the least, a lot of his decisions where completely off the rule book, and he killed what should have been a great game of football and a great occasion for your club, you where by far the better team in the second half and deserved at least another crack at it.

The lamhs will struggle against the might of St Galls, county needs a good ref for that one. Why do you call him Money Grabber?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on September 01, 2008, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: davincicode on September 01, 2008, 11:01:08 AM


The lamhs will struggle against the might of St Galls, county needs a good ref for that one. Why do you call him Money Grabber?

Why do you think he joined St Brigids?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunloy on September 02, 2008, 05:41:22 PM
Didnt get to see your game on saturday GLF, but i suppose the old saying alls fair in love and war rings true, cant say Geard Duggan was great in the first round when he gifted use a one point victory over us in injury time? I called it from day one that use would get beat by 1-2 points simply becasue of Paddy Cunninghams free taking. Made it up to the cargin, st galls game and i must say it was terrible, neither team seemed that interested in actually winning which i found strange(especially from carigns point of view), The fire and determination they showed in the championship when they beat st galls in the first round( two years ago?) was no where to be seen, possibly bad blood in the camp from the whole JC Devlin thing? Was really disappointed with their county men who were none existant, thought Tomas McCann hit 3-4 frees wide off the deck that Close could easily have put over from his hands(regardless of which side they were on) and also agree with the comments above about diving, i was embarrassed at times by it. Thouch St Galls were good in the second half, Karl Stewart i thought was always their biggest threat although they didnt give him the right ball, thought Sean Burke played well along with McLean and id have to say my Man of the match would have been Kevin Niblock, was always effective on the ball and showed well, Terry O Neill was terrible as was the number 6(gribbies?) would say St Galls will be L D easy enough, after the customary 15 rough and tumble. But clearly if they want to do anything in ulster theyll nedd to up it big time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2008, 08:54:02 PM
From what I saw Niblock had a great game, a really underestimated player, best winner (and keeper, and user) of dirty ball in the county. Strong as a bull. Ciaran Mc Gourty also hasnt got the credit he deserves, very hard working, unselfish, and a great team player. Probably my MOM, a close run thing with Kevin O Boyle.

Why the hell was Crozier at 11, def dosent strike me as a natural forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on September 02, 2008, 11:36:06 PM
Dunloy, I understand your greivance about the free which led to our winning point in the first round, but in all fairness your goal came from a free that should have went the other way. Unlike Mullan on Saturday night Duggan wasn't working from an agenda.

Until Saturday night I used to think the notion that you can't win a tight match in the city against a city team was just a myth. I am now a firm believer in that notion. Several members of our clubs have been approached by neutrals at the game saying that the way we were treated by the ref was disgraceful. A high up member of the Derry county board who was at the game said it was the worst display of refereeing he had ever seen.

He is a low f**ker anyway. He charges £100 a match for refereeing Camogie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 03, 2008, 12:56:19 AM
Crozier was completely wasted at CHF. If they'd been able to get him the ball he might have been able to do something but instead had to focus on vainly attempting to stop a rampaging Sean Kelly. Niblock has always been a good, strong footballer, think he was playing senior championship when he was 16. However, he was injured and essentially burnt out for a good while, and never seemed to justify the early hype about him. All changed this year hopefully. Great at winning and holding the ball on Sunday and kicked a fine point as well. Last time I saw him was against Cross and he couldn't kepp hold of the thing to save his life. He was hit hard and often on Sunday, and took them all without spilling it once. Great performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 03, 2008, 12:24:49 PM
One point I will say about Niblock is that he needs to get himself a new pair of boots.

Against Cross (all day) and then again (a few times) on Sunday he slipped all over the place.  A pair of studs needed.

Had heard he was some underage player and no doubt he has done well. Hopefully he wil be able injury free to fulfil that potential.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on September 03, 2008, 09:43:50 PM
Just like to send my best wishes to Niall Doyle after his accident on monday, hope for a speedy recovery.

Thoughts and prayers are with him & his family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2008, 09:46:41 PM
Not anything too serious I hope Culchy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 04, 2008, 06:56:20 AM
Best wishes to the lad - must have been fairly bad - Cargin guestbook has a comment that he had a major operation on Tuesday and might need another.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on September 04, 2008, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 03, 2008, 09:46:41 PM
Not anything too serious I hope Culchy?

fairly serious as far as i'm aware.
he was in car accident on monday morning.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
Feck, well best wishes to him and his family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on September 04, 2008, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on September 03, 2008, 09:43:50 PM
Just like to send my best wishes to Niall Doyle after his accident on monday, hope for a speedy recovery.

Thoughts and prayers are with him & his family.

I would echo those sentiments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: dodgy umpire on September 05, 2008, 06:48:11 PM
lads does anyone have details on the match to open st.brigids new pitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 05, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
Quote from: dodgy umpire on September 05, 2008, 06:48:11 PM
lads does anyone have details on the match to open st.brigids new pitch?

ardoyne V mac dermotts

it is a council pitch after all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: dodgy umpire on September 06, 2008, 12:12:38 AM
i was told something about some sort of exhibition game with micky linden etc playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2008, 11:28:42 PM
Naomh Gall win the Castlewellan sevens again this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 12, 2008, 12:04:01 PM
I'm not going to sit back idly & let the noble Antrim football thread disappear into the obscurity of the 2nd page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 12, 2008, 01:38:04 PM
Lets just think about this for a moment:

Your County football team has 2 games left in the National League.

ONE point from those 2 games will guarentee your promotion.

The 2 games are against Tipperary(away) and Waterford(home).

I cannot type any further about what happened next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 12, 2008, 03:35:42 PM
whens the final scheduled lads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 12, 2008, 10:09:39 PM
Double header on 28th I believe.

Were there any goings-on after the Hannahstown - Rasharkin semi-final? I have heard that Lamh Dhearg may be short one or two for the final. Anyone else hear this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2008, 12:55:33 AM
holidays or something else  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 13, 2008, 12:59:17 AM
i heard, one lamh dhearg man and four rasharkin men - 12weeks suspension from what happened at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 15, 2008, 09:22:43 AM
Completely missed this Playwiththewind...what happened at the end of the game.
Who are the Lamh Dhearg player and the 4 Rasharkin men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 15, 2008, 09:34:33 AM
Heard the name of the Lamh Dhearg boy - McComb?

Never heard of him before this, I think he may be a sub, rather than a starter and I can't see the Dearg being overly weakened by this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2008, 05:48:58 PM
i doubt it will hinder them Saffron. should be a good close game. Our lads taking it very seriously. Lamhs have always given us a close game at Casement. took it to a replay one year. training going well and no injury worries.

very quiet on the site regarding the county final :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2008, 06:28:30 PM
Would love to see a tight game milltown but I doubt Lamh Dhearg have it in them to challenge you.

They'd be no better than Portglenone and sure look what you did to them.

You boys are making the football boring now hence not too many talking about it!

You're quickly becoming the Crossmaglen of Antrim football and only Cargin have it in them to stop that.

Unless you seriously lose your discipline and Paddy Cunningham crucifies you for it then you should win by 8 or 9. You've not done this on a national stage never mind a county stage so unlikely something like this will happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 16, 2008, 11:53:20 PM
Gall's will win by as many as they want--they are basketball type players with fantastic hands who could keep hold of the ball all day if they wanted. LD on the other hand have a few good players but far too many who are below standard players who will lose the ball under pressure.
LD's defence is there to be crucified.

i think they will winn by a record score in a final, St Galls by 24
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 20, 2008, 11:50:09 PM
After a marathon 82-game competition, St Gall's of Antrim made amends for last year's final defeat as they were crowned Kilmacud Crokes All-Ireland Senior Football Sevens champions at sunny Pairc de Burca in Stillorgan on Saturday.

Having lost to Longstone of Down in last year's decider, the Belfast outfit made amends by claiming their third title by overcoming Glenullin of Derry in an an all-Ulster final by 1-11 to 0-13.

St Gall's started strongly with a point from the throw-in by Sean
Kelly and with Andrew McClean following this score up with a
well-worked goal. With Kevin Niblock adding a score, Gall's quickly
broke into a five-point lead.

Eoin Bradley settled Glenullin with a wonderful point from the left
touchline under severe pressure and followed up with two further
points.

Gerard O'Kane got in amongst the scorers as Glenullin drew level but a point just before Cork referee Micheal Collins' half-time whistle by Karl Stewart gave Gall's a 1-04 to 0-06 advantage.

Kelly repeated his first half trick by winning the throw-in and
driving forward to score for the Saints but Paddy Bradley responded immediately with a score from a difficult angle.

Efforts from Kevin and Kieran McGourty then stretched the gap to a goal.

Points from the Bradley clan, Eoin, Paddy and Conrad, brought
Glenullin back into contention but Kevin Niblock and Karl Stewart kept the gap at two points.

Paddy Bradley landed a late free but it was not enough to deny St
Gall's a wonderful success.

Earlier, Gall's overcame Down side Kilcoo in their semi-final by 1-14 to 0-10 with Colm Bradley and Anto Healy amongst their scorers - a convincing seven-point win despite the minimum separating the sides at the interval.

Glenullin fired a fantastic 8-07 in their semi-final win over Clonduff
of Down, having registered a whopping 2-17 in their quarter-final
defeat of Gaoth Dobhair from Donegal.

Amazingly nine of the 12 groups were won by Ulster clubs, with Down on top in five of those, thanks to fine displays from Castlewellan, An Ríocht, Kilcoo, Bryansford and Clonduff, who all advanced to the knock-out stages.

The other group winner, apart from those mentioned and the
quarter-finalists, were Bellaghy (Derry), who went out in a play-off
to last year's champions Longstone.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 21, 2008, 03:13:42 PM
Fair play to St Galls--truely awesome, the Pride of Antrim, all Ireland Champions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2008, 10:06:28 PM
St Galls were awesome on Saturday, as you say Gold, the pride of Antrim. Spare a thought too for a massive effort from Kevin Madden who took Glenullin to within a point of St Galls. Ciaran Mc Gourty was immense, closely followed by Karl Stewart. Some "practice session" for next weeks county final!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 22, 2008, 08:28:13 PM
Lamhs will be hard to break down if they try the extra defender tactic they employed the last time we played them. if i were a Lamhs man i'd prefere to go all out against us. 15 on 15 and make a fist of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 22, 2008, 08:45:25 PM
Bit of bad blood between these two teams milltown? I remember hearing of a late night incident in belfast city centre involving a very shy county hurler who loves kissing the jersey. . . . . . . .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 22, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
yeah there would be, years of defeat have made it a hostile match. late night handbags outside Thompsons, kissed and made up and no trouble since...........the next time, Sunday night at Thompsons this weekend i believe. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on September 22, 2008, 10:17:52 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 21, 2008, 03:13:42 PM
Fair play to St Galls--truely awesome, the Pride of Antrim, all Ireland Champions

see it tonight on TG4, great programme on the 7s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 23, 2008, 08:24:54 PM
so Lamhs are going to the paper saying their main stars aren't fit :P

Paddy Quinn refereeing the final, whats he like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2008, 08:39:45 PM
Kevin McGourty looked a bit weighty at the 7s, big journalist-outing dinners the cause I'd imagine. Kieran McGourty's a 7s player and can only make it up and down mini-pitches with his small lungs. Terry O'Neill's too slow and has red hair. Karl Stewart's a hurler and has reddish hair. Veronica may be going shopping.

Lamhs can win this.

Paddy Cunningham's 100% and will notch 2-10. I was driving past Hannahstown today and saw him being coached by Buchanan - the oul stalwart was hitting them over from the left and right from over 60m out, probably demoralising Cunningham in the process. Lamhs could do worse than getting oul Buchanan patched up and onto the field for a 10-minute cameo towards the end. Not easily dispossessed and with the years of experience dripping off his greying bonce he could be the winning of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 23, 2008, 09:17:25 PM
Buchanan would bring that other dimension to Lamhs paly, with his size and craft he'll fool the Galls players into a false sense of security. tv adds ten pounds O'Niell, so stay away from the cameras on Sunday :P

do ya think there will be a good crowd at Casement before the Hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 23, 2008, 09:35:29 PM
My sources in Strabane tell me that the Tyrone jersey has been stolen off one of the Tinnies, so that would suggest that Buchanan is part of the squad alright. Have heard Chris Scannell and Philly Mulryne are also listed in the squad, but that Cunningham is unlikely to start. Part of the agreement that saw him not signing for St. Gall's earlier this year, I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 23, 2008, 10:17:05 PM
(http://antrim.gaa.ie/images/countyfinals08.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2008, 11:23:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2008, 09:28:45 PM
Are you boys serious about Buchanan? Is he back playing or are yis just messing?
Any good?

Seems to be a rumour that raises its head now and again when LD are going well. He's a bit of a Canavan character. They've won nothing without him....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2008, 11:38:26 PM
I'd say he'd take the medal, photo, book and a pastie butty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on September 24, 2008, 02:01:50 AM
So what you r saying is that st galls can't win the championship, So the boys come away from dublin at the weekend with the  ALL IRELAND 7'S CHAMPS , (3RD TIME IN HISTROY ) and some off u guys have a cheek to say that it's lams all the way , im sure the boys at miltown row should just stay home on sunday , Answer me this , what has lamb derg done in the last 10yrs off football from under 21 upward to this date , records don't lie , only journalists do that do not have a clue on how to give match reports . Bring on sunday
Quote from: ONeill on September 23, 2008, 08:39:45 PM
Kevin McGourty looked a bit weighty at the 7s, big journalist-outing dinners the cause I'd imagine. Kieran McGourty's a 7s player and can only make it up and down mini-pitches with his small lungs. Terry O'Neill's too slow and has red hair. Karl Stewart's a hurler and has reddish hair. Veronica may be going shopping.

Lamhs can win this.

Paddy Cunningham's 100% and will notch 2-10. I was driving past Hannahstown today and saw him being coached by Buchanan - the oul stalwart was hitting them over from the left and right from over 60m out, probably demoralising Cunningham in the process. Lamhs could do worse than getting oul Buchanan patched up and onto the field for a 10-minute cameo towards the end. Not easily dispossessed and with the years of experience dripping off his greying bonce he could be the winning of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on September 24, 2008, 02:09:12 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 22, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
yeah there would be, years of defeat have made it a hostile match. late night handbags outside Thompsons, kissed and made up and no trouble since...........the next time, Sunday night at Thompsons this weekend i believe. 8)

Will see u there ,chichester street first though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 24, 2008, 09:03:21 AM
Ras, what age are you?
Read O'Neill's post again and see if there was any seriousness behind it...although all may arguably be true...there is alot of red hair.

I really hope St Galls feel like they have to right a few wrongs (including the incidents outside Thompsons) and completely hammer LD. They certainly have the firepower.
St Galls by 7.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on September 25, 2008, 10:35:32 PM
Glens man i take it you don't like the derg , felling your love  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: corn02 on September 26, 2008, 12:26:23 PM
I know a lot of you will be mad to get to this. You can read about the tragedy and the Gearld Fearon appeal at www.gfmemorialday.com. I am sure youhave read about it in the news over the last two years. A lot more names to be added that I will update, anyone likely to head?

In case you cant see the writing it is Armagh v An allstar select managed by Joe Kernan and Mickey Harte:

Ref:Pat McEnaney

Players: include : Kierna McGeeney, Conor Mortimer, Graham Geraghty, Paddy Bradley, Seanie Johnston, Paul Barden, Karol Mannion, Eamon O'Hara, Ross Munnelly, Brian Dooher, BRyan Cullen, Marty McGrath.

Saturday, October 18th. Dromintee.

Golden Oldies too - names to be revealed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 26, 2008, 01:29:42 PM
any more progress on a manager being appointed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 28, 2008, 06:17:25 PM
St Galls  V  Lamh Dhearg
0-15             0-10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 28, 2008, 08:13:39 PM
hit two belters Hardstation

game was as boring as i predicted, Lamhs going hard first half nothing left second, our boys did not even get out of first gear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 28, 2008, 11:41:53 PM
It may have been a canter boys but a longer report required, please.

I only arrived in for the wee ball game.

Micko hit James McCartan?

Am not sure about the St Galls bench comments. CJ for sure, who else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2008, 12:04:50 AM
Awful game Glensman. First half Lamh Dhearg did a Tyrone and applied a load of pressure on the ball when St Galls had it. This meant they'd a few turnovers and kicked points from them so first half pretty much tit for tat.

HT LD 0-8 Galls 0-7

Second half different story altogether
Ciaran McGourty kicked some good points and the theme of Lamh Dhearg seemed to be to kick the ball down Sean Kelly's throat who was superb and having a field day. Kevin McGourty won lots of ball in FF line but seemed more intent in running round in circles with it but Aodhan Gallagher started to clean up in midfield and was breaking every tackle with surging runs. Andy McLean was cleaning up in FB too. CJ came on and scored two points of real quality too. The game was over half way through the second half. Ciaran Gallagher was skinning his man for fun too. In fact from 1-15 in the second half st galls were on top - including against the Herron's, Cunningham and that young Murray boy who I've heard is a great prospect but looked poor today.

The game was notable for the soccer type attitude of both sets of fans... St Galls with their ole at the end when they were playing keep ball and just passing it among themselves and LD fans for their chant of "red and white army" a la Norn Iron's chant.

Massive row on the steps leading to the changing rooms at HT too. McCartan walked in and some boy tried to send him flying. He started swinging and all hell broke loose.... Plenty of digs thrown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 29, 2008, 09:16:05 AM
Cheers Tommy, sounds like feisty stuf alright.
St Galls will need to get out of the habit of 'just doing enough' which they most certainly did against Cargin and maybe it would appear did against LD.
Sean Kelly is a class act.

As mentioned on the only other thread worth reading ... Antrim hurling there was a bit of soccer style chanting from a group of about 30 Cushendall supporters "Who **** is Winker?".
Not the best to see. Good honest guldering and a bit of shouting with name of your team with a few claps thrown in should be the order of the day.

LD may rue their approach to the football (which I am not sure they ever really had a chance to win)...they appear to have put a skeleton team out in a hurling fixture v Rasharkin and may very well drop down to division 3 in that one because of it. It has also allowed Rasharkin to move out of the one relegation spot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on September 29, 2008, 04:52:29 PM
Well first mcartan was hit from behind by (PT)NO 11 , when mcartan went to confront him he was charge by 5 other players from behind A Mr m herron no 10 throw a fly paunch then look to hide be hind other players who were cowardly throw fly kicks and digs others players in the meli were cm no9 ,bh no12,pcno13(so called county star) .
All these guys to take on a 5'5 guy who had his back to them , big guys who have a habbitt jumping people off gaurd ,

I wonder if they will be holding a press night tonite to explain how they went wrong . A good answer to that is u cannot play thugry with football , football will always come out in the end and that showed on sunday , maybe if lamb derg had tried to play football the game would have been a far better match . When you play teams that want play 80% pulling shirts , players, to the ground off the ball hitting and just try to break the game up as much as they could off course the game is going to look bad but fair play to the galls , the boys knew what the derg were bringing to the table and prepared well for it .

Just think we could have had Lamb Derg repersenting the county for ulster , scarey, very scarecy. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: corn02 on September 29, 2008, 05:34:37 PM
Ypu for Dromintee Hardstation.? Post Gteacht pint and a good charity match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: corn02 on September 29, 2008, 06:08:38 PM
You still be in contact with any Newry ones. Go on ya boy ya, CJ is going so Antrim will be in force.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 29, 2008, 06:25:10 PM
do ya think that Micko would be a better footballer if he tried to play football instead of all the shouldering and arm punching and gurning, that went on yesterday? in patches he played well, his bro was doing a bit of argy bargy also which is a bit unlike him.

Lamhs have played in a few finals now, will they be like Loughgiel and not be able to win one?

come to think of it have they won one while playing football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: corn02 on September 29, 2008, 06:25:30 PM
Well get down and get up to Dromintee ya boy ya!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 29, 2008, 09:53:29 PM
Micko is a mouthpiece, plain and simple.
He has alot of potential in both sports but until he deflates his head a bit he will go nowhere.

Casement is a recipe for disaster (though we shouldn't think like that)...two teams heading back in in such a confined space (with big egos to boot), subs right beside each other, big concete slabs to fall into.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2008, 11:15:44 PM
Micko is nothing but a ganch - from start to finish of games.

We all know what McGourty is like but at the end of the day he can play football. Micko can do no such thing - with the main reason being he doesn't have time to with all the crap he is up to.

Any coach with an ounce of sense would knock this out of him too.

I tell you this - he wasn't behaving like that when playing under Adrian McGuckin at the poly.(which also indicates that if he stops acting the pr**k he could probably play a bit)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 04:46:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 29, 2008, 11:15:44 PM
Micko is nothing but a ganch - from start to finish of games.

We all know what McGourty is like but at the end of the day he can play football. Micko can do no such thing - with the main reason being he doesn't have time to with all the crap he is up to.

Any coach with an ounce of sense would knock this out of him too.

I tell you this - he wasn't behaving like that when playing under Adrian McGuckin at the poly.(which also indicates that if he stops acting the pr**k he could probably play a bit)
didnt think micko was like that. comes across as a gent. what crap is he up to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 04:50:08 PM
ill take your word for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 02, 2008, 04:50:36 PM
pure asshole.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 06, 2008, 09:37:43 AM
When is the St Galls/Mayobridge match...is it this weekend?

I see the Gorts got a decent win against St Pauls at the weekend (busy time for the Gorts at the minute).
St Pauls dragged into the relegation carry on.
Can the Gorts stay up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 06, 2008, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 06, 2008, 09:37:43 AM
When is the St Galls/Mayobridge match...is it this weekend?

I see the Gorts got a decent win against St Pauls at the weekend (busy time for the Gorts at the minute).
St Pauls dragged into the relegation carry on.
Can the Gorts stay up?

The St.Galls/Mayobridge match is Sunday 19th






Team   Played   Won   Lost   Drawn   Points For   Points Against   Points Diff   Points

Cargin    11   9   2   0   200   134   66   18
St. Galls    10   7   3   0   143   93   50   14
Portglenone    11   7   4   0   155   133   22   14
Creggan Kickhams    11   7   4   0   144   139   5   14
St. Brigids    12   5   7   0   142   149   -7   10
Lamh Dhearg    11   4   5   2   123   155   -32   10
St. Pauls    12   4   7   1   138   142   -4   9
St. Johns    11   4   6   1   110   138   -28   9
Rasharkin    9   3   5   1   98   133   -35   7
Gort Na Mona    12   2   9   1   129   166   -37   5

Looking at the table you would have to say that Gort will go down. Their sucess in the hurling will not help either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2008, 06:22:46 PM
I'm assuming it's 18 games?

While lot of games to go if that's the case. Strange Rasharkin have played so few. Looks like another cut off date with not that many games played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
On another note to Milltown's question of Lamh Dhearg ever winning the c'ship.

I've a funny feeling they may have been awarded it one year in the early nineties. Either them or Rossa were awarded it as there was a while row in one of the semi's so the teams from that side were kicked out.

Not sure of the roll of honour.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 06, 2008, 06:35:46 PM
was 92 when Lamhs were awarded it. row broke out involving Cargin and St Johns i think in the semi, back in the day when you could stamp on heads and get off with stern look from the referee.

fair to say Lamhs had a decent team and could have won it on the day but sure we'll never know :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2008, 06:39:02 PM
They'd have pushed for it anyway. They'd Frankie Wilson, Colm McCabe, Micky Boyle,Terry McCrudden etc in those days and weren't a shabby team. St Johns were a good final team(knew how to win but weren't great) in those days but Cargin had a habit of capitulating in finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 06, 2008, 07:41:35 PM
 Cargin?  they still do :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 07, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
I see in today's Irish News that Frankie Delargey of Portglenone is allegedly putting his name forward for the Antrim job. Don't really know anything about him. What do other punters think of him?

It would also appear that Madden has been ruled out of the reckoning by those tasked with finding a new manager because he is too young. Not a powerful lot younger than either Jody Gormley or Jason Ryan one would think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on October 07, 2008, 12:24:13 PM
What we need in Antrim someone who is above all the petty club disputes and has the respect of the all the clubs Brian White has this (Madden does not).

We need someone who is going to come in and make sure the players know who the boss is and the consequences of crossing him. We need someone who knows how to man manage not all players will react the same way to the same treatment I believe Brian knows this and is capable of turning around the fortunes.

As an antrim fan I am not looking to be contesting finals or dominating football, we are looking for a team that is honest and hard working that we can get behind and support not the premadonna's that we have at present.

A team that will work hard and fight in games as they do for their clubs not throw in the towel when the slightest sign of weakness appears.

Give us a team to be proud of is all we are asking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2008, 12:31:48 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 07, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
I see in today's Irish News that Frankie Delargey of Portglenone is allegedly putting his name forward for the Antrim job. Don't really know anything about him. What do other punters think of him?

It would also appear that Madden has been ruled out of the reckoning by those tasked with finding a new manager because he is too young. Not a powerful lot younger than either Jody Gormley or Jason Ryan one would think.

:D :D :D
if you turn someone down because of this they really will become the laughing stock of ulster football :D
he would be between 28+30, hardly a f**king child !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 07, 2008, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 07, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
I see in today's Irish News that Frankie Delargey of Portglenone is allegedly putting his name forward for the Antrim job. Don't really know anything about him. What do other punters think of him?

It would also appear that Madden has been ruled out of the reckoning by those tasked with finding a new manager because he is too young. Not a powerful lot younger than either Jody Gormley or Jason Ryan one would think.

I hope that is a wind up about Delargy?? Looks like Madden is going to be involved in the Derry setup if Cassidy gets the nod as manager.  That won't do his CV any harm as he will see more big game experience with Derry for the next couple of years than with Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SidelineKick on October 07, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
i wouldnt let delargy manage a division 2 under 12 B team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2008, 03:53:07 PM
I think he could be a contributor on this board...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SidelineKick on October 07, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
dont know if he still is but he certainly was. then his cover was blown  :D those were the days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 07, 2008, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 07, 2008, 03:53:07 PM
I think he could be a contributor on this board...

he's still here  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 07, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 07, 2008, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 07, 2008, 03:53:07 PM
I think he could be a contributor on this board...

he's still here  ;)

To quote hardstation, "f**k sake, lads"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 07, 2008, 09:39:16 PM
I wonder will Brian White bring in Coyler as his right hand man. Cue Coyler again saying "our Barrys playin some great stuff so he is, stick him in there at full forward"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 08, 2008, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 08, 2008, 09:34:38 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 07, 2008, 09:39:16 PM
I wonder will Brian White bring in Coyler as his right hand man. Cue Coyler again saying "our Barrys playin some great stuff so he is, stick him in there at full forward"

    Brian will not be taking up this post and Delargy has as much chance as my dog has of doing it.A surprise is on the cards which nobody will predict.Remember this when it comes out.The Doctor and friends have been busy.


So will we be impressed, horrified or just surprised?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 10:28:34 AM
Mick O'Dwyer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
Go on, give us a clue. Although I can't see the good dcoctor knowing enough (or indeed anything) about football to allow him to make an informed appointment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 11:21:47 AM
whats the problem with Delargy lads?
The fellas (players) in Banagher were mightily impressed with him.
He turned the side around form one that won the odd game to be almost up there. Beating bellaghy and someof th eother big guns in league and championship was no fluke...one victory maybe, but people were talking about Banagher being dark horses for the championship. OK I would love to have thought this was the case, but they are just that wee bit short on quality players.
However in Delargys stint there was a big problem with the hurling still taking centre stage.
This season when Liam Baker Bradley took over, the emphasis was on football - forcefully so from the club exec (one that has caused a bit of a rift at the moment unfortunately - but will get back on track for next season I expect).

My observations are - I think Brian white is a good man, did great work with Antrim, but he is too old school.
Delargy is a more modern style football advocate. That immediately puts him top of the pile in Antrim from the few candidates I know of (though there are loads I dont).
the man has lifted sides to play above themselves in any club he has been to - with the exception of Loup,where they were already one of the top two teams in Derry at that time, and Delargy did well to take on and maintain the teams level after inheriting it from Mal O'Rourke.

If you want a more professional , gritty , hard working , focussed and honest competetive Antrim side, then Delargy will get you back to where Antrim Footbal Gaels fear to believe they could be. I see enough talent there to make a better dint in the ulster championship.
If you have a better candidate (other than rehashing the old ones that previously didnt have any affect) that we havent heard of yet - then give him the job as if he's better than Delargy, he must be excellent.

apologies for interjecting into your thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on October 08, 2008, 03:02:56 PM
White eager to lead Saffrons again
08 October 2008


Brian White has expressed a desire to return as Antrim football manager.

White, who was forced to step down from the job in 2001 due to his wife Geraldine's illness, is set to battle it out with Portglenone man Frankie Delargy for the right to succeed Jody Gormley.



The former Tyrone midfielder called time on his two-year reign after leading the Saffrons to victory over Wicklow in the Tommy Murphy Cup final this summer.

White said: "I never wanted to leave the job in the first place but I had to be with my wife and family, and that was always the priority.
"It's something I have talked to my children about and I have their full support. I do believe there is a great deal of talent in the current squad that needs to start believing it can be as good as any in Ulster."


Seems like he is interested I personally think he is the man for the job so give it to him and let him get to work!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 04:04:25 PM
as a matter of interest can anyone tell me what Brian whites record and achievements as a manager are?
I know he is a nice guy (rem from the few interviews I heard/read when he was last in the job) and I think everyone sympathises with his sad loss.
Delargy I checked out when he took the managers job at Banagher and while it looked good on record I still had to see him in action in order to be convinced - but he did that in quick enough time for everyone at the club - so I know delargys record, just wondering about White's.
Does anyone have info on him and what he has done (football wise)?
thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 08, 2008, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 04:04:25 PM
as a matter of interest can anyone tell me what Brian whites record and achievements as a manager are?
I know he is a nice guy (rem from the few interviews I heard/read when he was last in the job) and I think everyone sympathises with his sad loss.
Delargy I checked out when he took the managers job at Banagher and while it looked good on record I still had to see him in action in order to be convinced - but he did that in quick enough time for everyone at the club - so I know delargys record, just wondering about White's.
Does anyone have info on him and what he has done (football wise)?
thanks

Share with us his record,please.
that was a couple of years ago, so I will have to trawl through what I found and saved in a spreadsheet at home.
The list of senior clubs in Derry include kilrea, Loup, Banagher he vastly improved each team each year (apart from loup who were already top of the pile and kept them up there or thereabouts - a decent job after Malachy orourke left them)
I think he was also involved as manager/joint manager/coach on antrim teams from u14 up to and inc u21 - I could be wrong but this is from memory.
I'll get back to you ...

are you going to furnish me with Mr Whites record?
thanks
:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 05:02:20 PM
Two ulster minor finals, ulster championship semi final replay with seniors and all ireland b. Note that the ulster semi final replay was a a massive achievement given the history and it would have been an ulster final had it not been for tohill catching a point and the ref bottling it when he nearly decapitated Kevin Madden!

I know nothing about Delargy to be honest - he certainly seems to provoke strong opinions anyway. I have vague recollections of boys from the club playing underage county under him and saying he was a bit crazy but I can't speak from personal experience.

What we need is someone who can instill belief in the team, who can get them playing with a good system and , even though we are antrim, deal with any egos which are in there and I don't know why but there are a few.

Getting out of division 4 must be a priority. If we get a draw like Cavan (are the ulster draws made yet?) then we should also be winning a game like that. Last year was set for another championship win but for one reason or another it didn't happen. In fact to be honest it was over quite a way from the final whistle and that Cavan team was most likely the poorest they've been in years.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 05:14:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 05:02:20 PM
Two ulster minor finals, ulster championship semi final replay with seniors and all ireland b. Note that the ulster semi final replay was a a massive achievement given the history and it would have been an ulster final had it not been for tohill catching a point and the ref bottling it when he nearly decapitated Kevin Madden!

I know nothing about Delargy to be honest - he certainly seems to provoke strong opinions anyway. I have vague recollections of boys from the club playing underage county under him and saying he was a bit crazy but I can't speak from personal experience.

What we need is someone who can instill belief in the team, who can get them playing with a good system and , even though we are antrim, deal with any egos which are in there and I don't know why but there are a few.

Getting out of division 4 must be a priority. If we get a draw like Cavan (are the ulster draws made yet?) then we should also be winning a game like that. Last year was set for another championship win but for one reason or another it didn't happen. In fact to be honest it was over quite a way from the final whistle and that Cavan team was most likely the poorest they've been in years.
ya see tommy, I have a problem with that bit in bold. There is part of the problem.
I honestly believe that you have enough talent to compete in ulster and win a few qualifiers at least.
Look at wicklow, did well in leinster and yous beat them in the tommy murphy cup.
Antrim has talent (sounds like a dodgy tv show - theres an idea.
Maybe we could have the likes of Brian white, Jody and delargy (and more?) trying out to see who is Antrims X factor.
It might raise money for the Antrim county boards coffers (I was gonna say players coffers, but then I realised that any money going to any county board wont reach players) :D
Back to the point, I feel that Antrim are def capable of emulating fermanagh. Seriously. the talent of the players is much the same.
Antrim are not that far off the Armagh's, Tyrones, Derry's,Donegals, Downs etc. Its just organisation, tactics and a gameplan - things that delargy does well.

yeah delargy does provoke reactions. At least the team wouldnt be as complacent under him as they were last year.
Having seen him, and knowing what the lads in Banagher thought of him, and not knowing a whole lot about white, I am obv a bit of a Delargy fan.
I suppose its the couple of posts slating him that offended my sense of fairness and got me to reply on here.

white is a good guy and has a decent record, but from first hand exp, Delargy is a hungry younger more modern style of football manager that is passionate about antrim (jeez he never used to shut up about Antrim Antrim Antrim ! :D) and mad about football (mad full stop - but maybe thats what it takes !).
Will be interesting to see who gets it.

I wonder if Delargy will pay be to be his PR officer  !
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
I do mean that these boys have not when it boils down to it proved themselves lynchboy and thus have no right to have egos.

There are some very capable footballers in antrim. I'm not sure we have 15 but we have definitely around the 9 or 10 mark.

Michael McCann, Sean Kelly and ,when he fills out a bit, CJ McGourty would grace many county teams in the game. Justin Crozier should be likewise in a couple of years. We are very weak in the corner back and half forward areas though. If what we have is harnessed right though there is no reason we couldn't make a decent run in the qualifiers with the right draw. You play that 15 that beat Wiclow in the tommy murphy and some good results will come. Also a win in ulster would be desirable.

The one thing which White has given us in the past, which was sadly lacking before him and probably is again, is belief.  That is probably why he would be the "peoples" choice.
Title: championship draw
Post by: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 08:01:57 PM
we are bound to get Tyrone in the championship at Casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 08, 2008, 08:03:17 PM
They'd be shitting themselves coming to fortress Casement.....Tyrone that is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
I do mean that these boys have not when it boils down to it proved themselves lynchboy and thus have no right to have egos.

There are some very capable footballers in antrim. I'm not sure we have 15 but we have definitely around the 9 or 10 mark.

Michael McCann, Sean Kelly and ,when he fills out a bit, CJ McGourty would grace many county teams in the game. Justin Crozier should be likewise in a couple of years. We are very weak in the corner back and half forward areas though. If what we have is harnessed right though there is no reason we couldn't make a decent run in the qualifiers with the right draw. You play that 15 that beat Wiclow in the tommy murphy and some good results will come. Also a win in ulster would be desirable.

The one thing which White has given us in the past, which was sadly lacking before him and probably is again, is belief.  That is probably why he would be the "peoples" choice.
I think that even with 9 or ten decent players a good man can make a good team of them - Fermanagh being the example.
They have drawn Donegal, thats not going to be easy !

Delargy gives players belief, but if white does get it, delargy is young enough to be about for a future position, and he's prob gonna be doing something to improve his exp (or working in some capacity for the true love of his life - Antrim football ...his missus might dispute that though :D)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on October 08, 2008, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
I do mean that these boys have not when it boils down to it proved themselves lynchboy and thus have no right to have egos.

There are some very capable footballers in antrim. I'm not sure we have 15 but we have definitely around the 9 or 10 mark.

Michael McCann, Sean Kelly and ,when he fills out a bit, CJ McGourty would grace many county teams in the game. Justin Crozier should be likewise in a couple of years. We are very weak in the corner back and half forward areas though. If what we have is harnessed right though there is no reason we couldn't make a decent run in the qualifiers with the right draw. You play that 15 that beat Wiclow in the tommy murphy and some good results will come. Also a win in ulster would be desirable.

The one thing which White has given us in the past, which was sadly lacking before him and probably is again, is belief.  That is probably why he would be the "peoples" choice.
I think that even with 9 or ten decent players a good man can make a good team of them - Fermanagh being the example.
They have drawn Donegal, thats not going to be easy !

Delargy gives players belief, but if white does get it, delargy is young enough to be about for a future position, and he's prob gonna be doing something to improve his exp (or working in some capacity for the true love of his life - Antrim football ...his missus might dispute that though :D)


Are you a relation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glenullinabu on October 08, 2008, 09:12:44 PM
give job to mccartan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 08, 2008, 09:29:00 PM
an Ulster final place is there for us now...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim


Either would be more than acceptable, but nearlymad is referring to a Derry man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: fred the red on October 08, 2008, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2008, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
I do mean that these boys have not when it boils down to it proved themselves lynchboy and thus have no right to have egos.

There are some very capable footballers in antrim. I'm not sure we have 15 but we have definitely around the 9 or 10 mark.

Michael McCann, Sean Kelly and ,when he fills out a bit, CJ McGourty would grace many county teams in the game. Justin Crozier should be likewise in a couple of years. We are very weak in the corner back and half forward areas though. If what we have is harnessed right though there is no reason we couldn't make a decent run in the qualifiers with the right draw. You play that 15 that beat Wiclow in the tommy murphy and some good results will come. Also a win in ulster would be desirable.

The one thing which White has given us in the past, which was sadly lacking before him and probably is again, is belief.  That is probably why he would be the "peoples" choice.
I think that even with 9 or ten decent players a good man can make a good team of them - Fermanagh being the example.
They have drawn Donegal, thats not going to be easy !

Delargy gives players belief, but if white does get it, delargy is young enough to be about for a future position, and he's prob gonna be doing something to improve his exp (or working in some capacity for the true love of his life - Antrim football ...his missus might dispute that though :D)


Are you a relation?
no , not at all !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2008, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim


Either would be more than acceptable, but nearlymad is referring to a Derry man.
A Derry man? How do you get that from my postings?

I didn't, a source close to the good doctor told me.
Title: Re: championship draw
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 09, 2008, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 08:01:57 PM
we are bound to get Tyrone in the championship at Casement

The old crystal ball needs a bitta polishing, Milltown !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2008, 09:15:30 AM
From today's irish News.

Quote
Delargy makes his case for Antrim job Gaelic Games
By Brendan Crossan

PORTGLENONE'S Frank Delargy has publicly thrown his hat in the ring to become the next senior football manager of Antrim.

Antrim's former U21 manager, who has been nominated by his club Roger Casement's, believes he has the credentials to beat favoured candidate Brian White to the post vacated by Jody Gormley at the end of the season.

Delargy, who has served an apprenticeship with Derry clubs Kilrea, Loup and Banagher in recent years, insists the potential within his native county is "unlimited" and hopes to be given the chance to step up to the inter-county stage.

Delargy refused to be drawn on the make-up of his backroom team, but was bullish in his election pitch yesterday.

"I think the potential in Antrim is unlimited if it is tapped into properly," he said.

"This managerial proposal is not about me, it's about a professional package – a thoroughly confident and proven backroom team that will leave no stone unturned to take Antrim football to a new level."

He added: "I intend to contest this position on the grounds that I have a proposal that could make a difference to Antrim football. The proposal is professional to its fingertips and there is a group of players in waiting who are good enough to explode onto a greater stage.

"It's essential we match the energy, ambition and organisation of other performing counties and we must expand our thinking on and off the field."

Delargy will submit a detailed curriculum vitae at the interview stage, outlining his plans, and puts significant emphasis on his managerial career at club level.

"I've served a great apprenticeship and learned a lot in the competitive field of Derry football. I've competed against some of the top managers there with success. So I think it's been a good grounding for me."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 09, 2008, 09:25:46 AM
Maybe its an obvious thing for Delargy, but if he brought the notion of 'Discipline' into that article, then imo thats what any county would be looking for let alone Antrim.

Fred - I am no relation and have only spoke to the man once. He was just in charge of (one of) my club and I took a keen interest.


SS2 - who would you like fo rthe job (no you cant nominate Jody or any of the McGourtys)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2008, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim


Either would be more than acceptable, but nearlymad is referring to a Derry man.
A Derry man? How do you get that from my postings?

I didn't, a source close to the good doctor told me.
It's gets very interesting all this talk the Doctor and his friends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
Your posts are interesting Lynchbhoy and if Delargy is what you say he is then he could be the man for the job. There are a lot of opinions on Delargy to the contrary though which is what worries me...

Is the Derry man the friend of the doctors or the manager candidate? Damian Barton?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 09, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
Look lads LB hasn't a clue about club football in Derry or a close insight to the men who manage club teams in Derry. Sorry LB...I have to tell the truth. LB has a foot in every county who is looking for a manager. Derry...Meath....Kildare...Cavan, and now Antrim :P :P :P :P :D

Ps forget to mention Dublin as well :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 09, 2008, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 09, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
Look lads LB hasn't a clue about club football in Derry or a close insight to the men who manage club teams in Derry. Sorry LB...I have to tell the truth. LB has a foot in every county who is looking for a manager. Derry...Meath....Kildare...Cavan, and now Antrim :P :P :P :P :D

Ps forget to mention Dublin as well :P
its called experience max, some of us have experienced life outside our own parishes and may know more than your arrogance suggests.
You are just sore because bellaghy couldnt beat Banagher when Delargy was in charge.

IMO Antrim have some good man coming up to take them through the next ten or twelve years.
White possibly, Delargy, Madden, then Rafferty in no particular order
(though Raff may opt for his own Armagh first).

I read our own new Derry managers list of managerial 'achievements' in the Irish news today - was a bit shocked to see that after all the hype, his only real senior achievement is winning a Derry senior championship with bellaghy....no big deal.
Sure thats like shooting fish in a barrel - Bellaghy are going to be in the top two or three every year.
By this token Madden is already at least equal to him,
If Delargy , too st galls then he'd win a senior also and be on a par too !

you dont have to have exp from every county to spot that !
cassidy talks the talk lets see if he can walk the walk. Many have reservations.
Sure everyone has reservations about a new manager at the start, its up tot them to prove themselves.
That goes for white, delargy, cassigy, Madden and Raff.

Jeez max - didnt think that being beaten by and drawing to Banagher cut you up that much !
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Donagh on October 09, 2008, 11:42:38 PM
4 pages of talk about Derry and there was me thinking this was the Antrim thread.

So whats the verdict on the St Teresa's v McDermotts final tomorrow evening? Should I bring a flack jacket or have the old grudges been buried firmly in the past?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2008, 03:09:56 PM
That could be a rough one!

Two teams who are possibly above competing in the junior too so the standard should be ok for junior.

Would expect st teresa's to win as mcdermotts seem to have went into a downward spiral in the last few years.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 10, 2008, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: Donagh on October 09, 2008, 11:42:38 PM
4 pages of talk about Derry and there was me thinking this was the Antrim thread.

So whats the verdict on the St Teresa's v McDermotts final tomorrow evening? Should I bring a flack jacket or have the old grudges been buried firmly in the past?
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2008, 03:09:56 PM
That could be a rough one!

Two teams who are possibly above competing in the junior too so the standard should be ok for junior.

Would expect st teresa's to win as mcdermotts seem to have went into a downward spiral in the last few years.



Junior Football Final Postponed

Tonight's Junior Football final has been postponed due to a water-logged pitch.

From county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Donagh on October 10, 2008, 10:06:40 PM
Only heard at about half six. Any word on the re-fixture?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Heard another name as shoe-in for the manager's job from my source in the Antrim senior squad. If there is an iota of truth in this rumour, then I despair. A sort of tenuous link to Faughart, Co. Louth, but absolutely none to Dungiven. There is a massive difference in bringing a club team from division 5 to division 1 and managing a senior inter-county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 13, 2008, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Heard another name as shoe-in for the manager's job from my source in the Antrim senior squad. If there is an iota of truth in this rumour, then I despair. A sort of tenuous link to Faughart, Co. Louth, but absolutely none to Dungiven. There is a massive difference in bringing a club team from division 5 to division 1 and managing a senior inter-county team.
is the name you heard a guy who I am well known to 'Love'
heard a rumour about this guy being in the running
I hope to heck that its not true for the sake of antrim football as he makes Jody look like mickey harte
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 05:55:33 PM
tell all lads who is he? whats his cv and how much does he cost?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on October 13, 2008, 06:08:11 PM
Your a bit slow on the pick up Milltown!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 06:14:13 PM
so will he get McGourty to play for Antrim this year, seeing they both write for the Gaelic Life?

i've been sidetracked with the two main runners in White and Delargy. didn't see this coming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
The clue is in my post.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Heard another name as shoe-in for the manager's job from my source in the Antrim senior squad. If there is an iota of truth in this rumour, then I despair. A sort of tenuous link to Faughart, Co. Louth, but absolutely none to Dungiven. There is a massive difference in bringing a club team from division 5 to division 1 and managing a senior inter-county team.

Not only are you boys contemptible, anonymous lunatics but you're also quite thick as well. It can't be Seosamh Mac Scath Fearthainne because, being from Dungiven, he a more than tenuous link to Dungiven.

Don't think White, Delargy or Brolly are really in the running.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 09:56:25 PM
so tell all oh knowing one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 09:58:13 PM
Ask big Louie's chap. He told Butterknife. Some guy McSherry at St. Brigid's.

No, never heard of him either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 10:03:37 PM
cant see it happening, unless he said he'd do it for nothing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2008, 09:34:13 PM
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/recruiters-to-keep-an-eye-on-international-rules-tour/2008/10/12/1223749843644.html
Recruiters to keep an eye on international rules tour
Tom Arup | October 13, 2008

THE visiting Irish international rules side will include at least one player who could join an AFL team as early as next year when it tours later this month for a two-Test series.

The player, who doesn't wish to be named, is part of player representative Ricky Nixon's Irish recruitment program and is being looked at by Richmond, the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda.

Nixon yesterday told The Age four players were likely to spend time with AFL clubs in November but only one would play for Ireland in the relaunch of the international rules competition.

"The thing is most of the players we are looking at over there play in the minor Gaelic competitions, they have a very successful under-20 competition," Nixon said.

"We are not looking at senior Gaelic players because they are too old to convert into AFL players because you need to be taught how to kick a drop punt when you are 16 or 18 at the latest."

Nixon held a training camp in Ireland in August at which the Tigers, Bulldogs and Kangaroos were joined by Geelong and Brisbane in considering the Irish talent.

Nixon said Geelong and the Lions had since decided against recruiting.

St Kilda chief executive Archie Fraser said yesterday the club was looking at the Irish representative in Nixon's program but was unsure of his desire to come to Australia.

The Saints will certainly consider another player, Niall McKeever, who will spend a week with St Kilda in early November.

McKeever, an athletic 190-centimetre player, has gained the interest of at least one other AFL club.

Fraser said the Saints were particularly keen on McKeever because he didn't come from a successful Gaelic club and was less likely to return to Ireland hoping to win an all-Ireland final.

"There is a slightly different opportunity for the kids who are from the south of Ireland, as opposed to the lure of kids from up north, who maybe have less of a chance historically of securing a chance of an all-Ireland final," Fraser said.

The first international rules Test will be played on October 24 at Subiaco, followed by the second Test on October 31 at the MCG.

Nixon said the Australian team, which would be much younger than the Irish outfit, could get a "rude shock" compared to the 2006 series, which Australia won comfortably.

"The two games (AFL and Gaelic football) have come so close to the way they're played now it's not funny," Nixon said.

"Watching Gaelic games over the last few months, the style of play is very similar to AFL with guys running from the back line and hitting up a forward and getting it back and scoring. It is very similar to the style of play we use now.

"They'll (the Irish) take it right up to the AFL players. there is no doubt about that."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 15, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2008, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim


Either would be more than acceptable, but nearlymad is referring to a Derry man.
A Derry man? How do you get that from my postings?

I didn't, a source close to the good doctor told me.
It's gets very interesting all this talk the Doctor and his friends.

The Baker??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: robertemmet on October 15, 2008, 11:42:53 AM
So are you saying that baker is in for the Antrim job then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 15, 2008, 11:47:41 AM
I'm not saying anything...I'm asking...hence the question mark
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: robertemmet on October 15, 2008, 11:57:36 AM
Can't see him being in for the Antrim job.  I'd say he will be back with glenullin next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cruncher on October 15, 2008, 04:43:42 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 09:58:13 PM
Ask big Louie's chap. He told Butterknife. Some guy McSherry at St. Brigid's.

No, never heard of him either.
It is true that mc sherry is leaving st brigids this year. It would be a big surprise if he went to the antrim job. Heard rumours that he was going for the st galls job before wee james got in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on October 17, 2008, 11:03:22 AM
Very quiet on the St Galls match, what is the good word are they as good as they have been previously I havent seen as much of them this year as before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2008, 01:45:32 PM
very quiet down milltown row. tough draw ahead, i fancy a draw and a problem for Coulter, should he go or head to Oz?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on October 17, 2008, 07:32:47 PM
Don't question the gall's boys miltown hoe , The boys could surprise and rise a few eyebrews on sunday . Just make sure ur on Baps bus and support the lads on sunday. ;D

PS. See u in the bar afterwards , can't finds MeanStreets box  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2008, 08:13:39 PM
your hardly at it hardstation, any fights?  st teresas going for the double good going. mainly all dual players also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 17, 2008, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2008, 08:32:21 PM
Naomh Treasa 1-06
McDermotts 1-06

whos wireless are you piggybackin on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2008, 08:46:07 PM
final result hardstation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2008, 08:49:24 PM
How's Maguire playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2008, 11:40:52 PM
So St Gall's v Mayobridge.

I'm hearing the Galls have a few injuries. Could be ripe for Linden pickings.

The Kevin McGourty argument always baffles me. Antrim men will say he'd walk onto any county team. I honestly think he wouldn't make our ladies side. Reminds me of Steve Bull. The main man until given the opportunity. Would he excel at Inter-pro level? Personally, I think CJ is no.1 in terms of talent, Kieran no.1 in terms of brain and Kevin a fair all-rounder.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 12:14:47 AM
kevin fullforward has played all year there and will win ball with ease of man, his major problem (of many i hear ya say) is staying there. he wanders off chasing ball. as for conor, well he's had his wings clipped. wee james is not a man to be messed with and its a whos the boss session there.

Bridge have graet players and will have revenge on their minds, unfinished business for them, our lads looking to gety to final again.

buses are heading down should be good craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Donagh on October 18, 2008, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2008, 08:54:19 PM
Naomh Treasa 1-10
McDermotts 2-09
FT


Wasn't able to make it to this tonight but feel sorry for the Treasa's lads. They were really up for this game last week and I fancied them for a double. I take it there was no trouble?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2008, 12:30:56 AM
Is Kevin really that good HS? If you were to pick one player, at full fitness, to represent Antrim at Railway level, who'd it be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 12:47:42 AM
Sean Kelly all day. best footballer in Antrim by a mile. great reading of game and turn of pace once on the ball.

has a lot to prove this year after last years final against Cross. was injured early on and had to come off. Kevin moves himself hardstation, dont kid yourself. did it mean we beat a poor Lamhs team? get real.

cargin are the only team that have any chance in Antrim to beat Naomh Gall. end off. the dominance wont last forever but still maybe two or three years left. bloody conveyor belt at minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 01:01:33 PM
trust me station, Kevin went out on his own to midfield did it stem the flow? lamhs managed a couple of late scores in the the dying minutes. we just failed to get going from the start.

Bradley whacked conor john in the head at half time. conor said afterwards and made no big deal out of it, anto healy was there also. probably deserved it ;)

few injuries for tomorrow. not all rosy down the lane. will have enough to take it back to Casement. draw all over it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 01:22:59 PM
i'm guessing here, backline the same, could be changes in midfield. and forward line to have positional changes with CJ to come in. could make us stronger.

this is all hearsay. will you be going Hardstation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
this is what annoys me. the ulster council playing both on the same day and our Antrim board playing league games also. madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 01:40:39 PM
good thinking HS, drink my carry out for the bus now, get a dirty chinese about 6, 2 bottles of wine, watch the x factor and vote for the dungiven lad (oh did ya know that dungiven dont have any poor boxes in the shops anymore) and talk shite on here for a while.

free into Casement if your a referee ;) and halftime scoops, meet the lads when they come back. match is on live tomorrow on the radio. credit crunch kicking in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2008, 09:29:25 PM
Once again St Galls do the county proud. Maybe not five star all round, but ten out of ten for the one thing they have in spades - BELIEF. A credit to all true Antrim Gaels.

A lot of vg individual displays but Sean Kelly, Niblock and all three Mc Gorts showed the way. Aidso also maturing into a top class player too. A few of CJ`s points were outrageous. Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2008, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2008, 09:29:25 PM
Once again St Galls do the county proud. Maybe not five star all round, but ten out of ten for the one thing they have in spades - BELIEF. A credit to all true Antrim Gaels.

A lot of vg individual displays but Sean Kelly, Niblock and all three Mc Gorts showed the way. Aidso also maturing into a top class player too. A few of CJ`s points were outrageous. Well done.

You cant say someone is maturing into a top class player until they do it consistently at inter county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bridgegael on October 20, 2008, 10:42:31 AM
well done to st galls yesterday,  we just came uo short at the end,  our first half was our downfall.  credit to st galls they kept popping over the points.  they play good hard fair football and no old shite out of them like some other teams would.  would love to see them go on and go the whole way this year.  good luck to st galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 20, 2008, 07:17:50 PM
great game yesterday, great players in Aidos and Sean Kelly was outstanding. great craic before during and aftrer the match, paid for it all day at work. but the kids were sent home early as i needed to do marking :P  was a fraid to fart today  :o

the next match is at Casement will be a tough match, 12 quid in yesterday!!! was a bit steep so we didnt pay in, did the usual. works everytime in Newry

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 20, 2008, 07:22:02 PM
Well done to St Galls

Div 1 is a tight as a virgen's honeypot--anyone of 6/7 out of 10 could be one of the 2 to go down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on October 20, 2008, 11:11:02 PM
 Anyone know the people who will be interviewing the candidates for the Football Manager's job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 20, 2008, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 20, 2008, 11:11:02 PM
Anyone know the people who will be interviewing the candidates for the Football Manager's job?

Bill Cullen and Alan Sugar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on October 21, 2008, 08:11:27 AM
 Gold you're a real nugget of sh.te!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cruncher on October 21, 2008, 04:53:08 PM
Inside knowledge - now white has priced himself out of the running for the job mc sherry is the new favourite for the antrim job with bradley and delargy unlikely outsiders!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 22, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 15, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2008, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim


Either would be more than acceptable, but nearlymad is referring to a Derry man.
A Derry man? How do you get that from my postings?

I didn't, a source close to the good doctor told me.
It's gets very interesting all this talk the Doctor and his friends.

The Baker??


Bradley joins race for Saffrons post
18 October 2008


Derry native Liam Bradley has thrown his hat in the ring to become Antrim's next football manager.

The Glenullin clubman, who is the father of Derry stars Paddy and Eoin, is understood to be the fourth candidate to join the race for the Saffrons job after recently ending his pursuit of the Derry position.

The O'Donovan Rossa clubman managed Glenullin to their first county championship in 22 years last season, and managed Antrim in the earlier part of this decade

Bradley joins Frank Delargy, Conor MacSherry and Brian White in the hunt to succeed Jody Gormely, with interviews conducted by the Antrim County Board expected to commence next Wednesday night


Also heard that Niall Conway is to be his coach
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 22, 2008, 12:22:40 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 22, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
Bradley joins race for Saffrons post
18 October 2008


Derry native Liam Bradley has thrown his hat in the ring to become Antrim's next football manager.

The Glenullin clubman, who is the father of Derry stars Paddy and Eoin, is understood to be the fourth candidate to join the race for the Saffrons job after recently ending his pursuit of the Derry position.

The O'Donovan Rossa clubman managed Glenullin to their first county championship in 22 years last season, and managed Antrim in the earlier part of this decade

Bradley joins Frank Delargy, Conor MacSherry and Brian White in the hunt to succeed Jody Gormely, with interviews conducted by the Antrim County Board expected to commence next Wednesday night


Also heard that Niall Conway is to be his coach
being pedantic, its funny how he couldnt manage to do it as manager prior to this and that he was unsuccessful this season as Banagher manager and in Banagher he is considered to be a failure in comparison to what Delargy did the previous season with the players focussing more on hurling (this year they concentrated on football only to the detriment of the hurling team)
I'd have to say that it was Madden that was the manager and the guiding light bringing the championship to glenullin, and while Bradly is a great gael and a passionate football man, he aint what antrim need either.
I am glad that Cass got the Derry job but Bradley couldnt have been a serious candidate amongst serious football people. Maybe in time , but def not yet.
imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 23, 2008, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 20, 2008, 11:11:02 PM
Anyone know the people who will be interviewing the candidates for the Football Manager's job?

any news from last night??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on October 23, 2008, 07:05:00 PM
bradley got the job. its on the antrim website. 3 yr term which will be reviewed every year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
This'll be interesting. The bully won't be bullied by the playing mafia.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 23, 2008, 07:18:42 PM
Antrim Senior Football Manager
23 October 2008
Following a series of interviews held on the 22nd October 2008  for the position of Antrim Senior Football Manager,the Antrim County Board are pleased to announce the appointment of Liam Bradley.
Liam will be in post for a period of 3 years (subject to an annual review).
Details relating to the composition of his back room team will be announced later.
The County board will like to express their thanks to all the unsuccessful candidates for their intrest in the position and wish them well in future manageral careers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 23, 2008, 07:51:38 PM
a Derry man  :-\

any thoughts on who his back room team will be?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2008, 07:56:37 PM
Madden and SS2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 23, 2008, 08:12:24 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on October 23, 2008, 07:51:38 PM
a Derry man  :-\

any thoughts on who his back room team will be?


Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 22, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 15, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 09, 2008, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on October 09, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 09:15:43 PM
he's busy ;) is rafferty still with S,niell?  or will he make his way back to his second club and make a dream paring of McCartan and Rafferty ;D

raff for Antrim


Either would be more than acceptable, but nearlymad is referring to a Derry man.
A Derry man? How do you get that from my postings?

I didn't, a source close to the good doctor told me.
It's gets very interesting all this talk the Doctor and his friends.

The Baker??


Bradley joins race for Saffrons post
18 October 2008


Derry native Liam Bradley has thrown his hat in the ring to become Antrim's next football manager.

The Glenullin clubman, who is the father of Derry stars Paddy and Eoin, is understood to be the fourth candidate to join the race for the Saffrons job after recently ending his pursuit of the Derry position.

The O'Donovan Rossa clubman managed Glenullin to their first county championship in 22 years last season, and managed Antrim in the earlier part of this decade

Bradley joins Frank Delargy, Conor MacSherry and Brian White in the hunt to succeed Jody Gormely, with interviews conducted by the Antrim County Board expected to commence next Wednesday night


Also heard that Niall Conway is to be his coach

As I told ye...Conway is from Ballinderry and was manager of Derry minors for the past two years.
Yuse boys will listen to me yet ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
I'm not sure I like this  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 23, 2008, 08:43:05 PM
Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 23, 2008, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
I'm not sure I like this  :-\

You do the understatement thing very well.

Absolutely shocking appointment. No logic in or possible justification for it. If you're reading this Dr. McSparran, shame on you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 23, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 23, 2008, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
I'm not sure I like this  :-\

You do the understatement thing very well.

Absolutely shocking appointment. No logic in or possible justification for it. If you're reading this Dr. McSparran, shame on you.

Why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 23, 2008, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 23, 2008, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
I'm not sure I like this  :-\

You do the understatement thing very well.

Absolutely shocking appointment. No logic in or possible justification for it. If you're reading this Dr. McSparran, shame on you.

the man has just been appointed and you come out with this ! FFS


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 23, 2008, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 23, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 23, 2008, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
I'm not sure I like this  :-\

You do the understatement thing very well.

Absolutely shocking appointment. No logic in or possible justification for it. If you're reading this Dr. McSparran, shame on you.

Why?

Because there is absolutely nothing in his managerial CV to suggest that he is capable of senior inter-county management, let alone that he is the best candidate for the job.

Go ahead, convince me that it is anything less than shocking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 23, 2008, 09:58:19 PM
No i wont try that, i have read to many of your posts to realise how intransigent you can be at times. Still he is the best of the bunch that went to interview...and your bonus point is Niall Conway, a very sharp wee boy is our Naill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 23, 2008, 09:58:58 PM
Were all the candidates not pretty unimpressive? In saying that if Doctor Doom had any foresight he could have Kevin Madden in situ and we wouldnt have to go through this. Foresight and the Doctor are not obvious bedfellows though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
completely agree with SS2
its a ridiculous appointment
the only achievement the guy has to his credit was actually won by kevin madden.

good luck to him but I fear antrim football has taken another sideways if not backwards step.

as for niall conway - well he dint cover himself in glory looking at the semi final and minal of the minor championship
last year (07) when changes were crying out to be made but nothing was done (or done too late - if at all).


so antrim footballers will spend another season without their best players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the green man on October 23, 2008, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
as for niall conway - well he dint cover himself in glory looking at the semi final and minal of the minor championship
last year (07) when changes were crying out to be made but nothing was done (or done too late - if at all).

Its here that I must take umbridge with your post LB.

Didn't they win the semi-final?

If memory serves, a sucker punch goal for Galway won the game!

Anyway, sure he's only in as coach and not manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: the green man on October 23, 2008, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
as for niall conway - well he dint cover himself in glory looking at the semi final and minal of the minor championship
last year (07) when changes were crying out to be made but nothing was done (or done too late - if at all).

Its here that I must take umbridge with your post LB.

Didn't they win the semi-final?

If memory serves, a sucker punch goal for Galway won the game!

Anyway, sure he's only in as coach and not manager.

won the semi final but only just, were being cleaned out in most positions after 25 mins (luckily they played great stuff and scored a lot early on)  and nothing was done on the line to change that.
In the final they had the game, but when it turned conway again sat looking at it and did nothing.

with the talent they had , they should have walked the final. lost it on the line imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the green man on October 23, 2008, 11:18:46 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
won the semi final

Thank you. As the old cliche says 'Thats what they are there for'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 24, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
Surprise appointment indeed - best of luck to Baker and his team - think its a bit premature to be writing him off before a ball is even kicked in the new season.  From the list of 4 candidates apart from White nobody had senior intercounty management experience.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 24, 2008, 08:29:40 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 23, 2008, 09:58:19 PM
No i wont try that, i have read to many of your posts to realise how intransigent you can be at times. Still he is the best of the bunch that went to interview...and your bonus point is Niall Conway, a very sharp wee boy is our Naill.

It's too many of your posts, but that's largely irrelevant. I may appear intransigent, but I prefer to think that I deal in facts. So I stand over what I said. There is nothing in Bradley's managerial CV to suggest that he has what is necessary to be a successful inter-county manager.

He may well have been the best of the bunch, although if Lynchbhoy is to be believed (I know, not a great witness for my case) Delargy was more impressive during his stint with Banaher. IMHO none of the four who went for interview have the necessary requirements. Because you're the best of a bad lot doesn't mean you're particularly good. A short list of Madden, John Laverty, McCartan and Bradley would have seen Bradley laughed out of contention. Whilst there was a semblance of logic with the appointment of Mr Jody Gormley, there seems to be none here.

I think, however you are right about Conway and I would have preferred to seem him in as the main man rather the Baker, although if the CB felt Madden was too young, the same must apply here. That would have been a much more logical appointment, a talented young coach who has not served any suspensions for striking a member of the current Antrim senior squad at half time in an Ulster Club championship match. Don't be overly surprised if not every player (or indeed any player) from St. Gall's commits to the Baker's squad. If this turns out to be the case, then the fault lies squarely with Doctor Doom and not the players involved.

I am also led to believe that there may be more to the backroom team than has been mentioned so far, but I'll drop that particular scud later. If true, then that would be a good thing.

Maybe there is a cunning plan after all. Appoint the Baker as the figurehead, get a strong back room team in and gas the big man. That would seem to be the only sensible thing I can think of. Maybe the good Doctor actually does know what he is doing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 24, 2008, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: the green man on October 23, 2008, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
as for niall conway - well he dint cover himself in glory looking at the semi final and minal of the minor championship
last year (07) when changes were crying out to be made but nothing was done (or done too late - if at all).

Its here that I must take umbridge with your post LB.

Didn't they win the semi-final?

If memory serves, a sucker punch goal for Galway won the game!

Anyway, sure he's only in as coach and not manager.

won the semi final but only just, were being cleaned out in most positions after 25 mins (luckily they played great stuff and scored a lot early on)  and nothing was done on the line to change that.
In the final they had the game, but when it turned conway again sat looking at it and did nothing.

with the talent they had , they should have walked the final. lost it on the line imo.

LB is their not a manager whom you think is crap on the line apart from your darling Mickey Harte?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 24, 2008, 09:14:00 AM
I heard the same thing SS2 about the additions to the back room team to come. We shall see.

I'd just like to see Antrim get out of Division 4 and give Donegal a good rattle.
Antrim should be out of Division 4 next year, anything else is a failure.

I really hope the St Galls boys commit.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 24, 2008, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 24, 2008, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: the green man on October 23, 2008, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
as for niall conway - well he dint cover himself in glory looking at the semi final and minal of the minor championship
last year (07) when changes were crying out to be made but nothing was done (or done too late - if at all).

Its here that I must take umbridge with your post LB.

Didn't they win the semi-final?

If memory serves, a sucker punch goal for Galway won the game!

Anyway, sure he's only in as coach and not manager.

won the semi final but only just, were being cleaned out in most positions after 25 mins (luckily they played great stuff and scored a lot early on)  and nothing was done on the line to change that.
In the final they had the game, but when it turned conway again sat looking at it and did nothing.

with the talent they had , they should have walked the final. lost it on the line imo.

LB is their not a manager whom you think is crap on the line apart from your darling Mickey Harte?
yes - quite a lot actually - Eugene Kelly is one obvious one...

its usually the attention seeking whores that get the jobs and exposure though (not meaning Bradley here , and Mr harte has his daughter for that task anyhow).

I think I have been harsh on Niall Conway, while imo he is still guilty of what I said earler, he is a young manager and can learn from his mistakes and get better with experience - still doesnt necessarily mean hes going to be up there with Harte, but hes already at least on a par with crozier.

A managers quality is most guaged by their ability to make changes when things go wrong as much as their team strategy /gameplan.
imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 24, 2008, 09:37:34 AM
Im shocked. Will Paddy and Eoin be following him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 24, 2008, 09:40:50 AM
l see Eamonn O'Hara reporting Bradleys appointment this morning in the Irish News...as usual it is full of inaccuracies...Bradley was not involved in the management teams of either E.Colemen PIR and Mickey Moran at senior level, and you can take that to the bank
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 24, 2008, 09:52:42 AM
The Irish News, on this, and other matters this week has been full of inaccuracies.

It has been criticised on this board previously (the general board) and though remaining silent I was of the opinion, well sure they are throwing the GAA out there and its worth a read.

Not only on GAA on a number of occasions but other news facts they have been completely wrong and verging on tabloid-esque. Losing the faith with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 24, 2008, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 24, 2008, 09:52:42 AM
The Irish News, on this, and other matters this week has been full of inaccuracies.

It has been criticised on this board previously (the general board) and though remaining silent I was of the opinion, well sure they are throwing the GAA out there and its worth a read.

Not only on GAA on a number of occasions but other news facts they have been completely wrong and verging on tabloid-esque. Losing the faith with it.

Lost faith with it a long time ago Glensman, read it very rarely for the reasons you have stated above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on October 24, 2008, 10:14:10 AM
jees boys, baker is in the post all of 24hrs and yous have him gone already.
niall conway is a very good & able assistant, i also hear wee paddy mcneill who trained cargin this year will be in as trainer also.

give them a chance, get behind them and then make your judgements.
theres enough talent in the county to get out of div 4.

i would like to see baker bringing in the likes of micko herron & kevin mcgourty.
if anyone can get the best out of them i think baker can.
after all he has had to deal with this type of player before in his 2 sons!

i dont think it would have mattered who was appointed, some people would never be happy.

good luck to baker, niall & wee paddy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: sail_in on October 24, 2008, 10:16:25 AM
What happened at half time in the St Gall's v Glenullin match last year?

Today is the first I've heard of it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 24, 2008, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 24, 2008, 08:29:40 AM

I am also led to believe that there may be more to the backroom team than has been mentioned so far, but I'll drop that particular scud later. If true, then that would be a good thing.

Maybe there is a cunning plan after all. Appoint the Baker as the figurehead, get a strong back room team in and gas the big man. That would seem to be the only sensible thing I can think of. Maybe the good Doctor actually does know what he is doing.



The jungle drums have been beating - i presume you mean 2 Senior All-Ireland winners from Derry (not in Scor)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on October 24, 2008, 10:38:20 AM
A surprise appointment alright, but good luck to Baker and Niall.  From some of the comments on here they're going to need it!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on October 24, 2008, 10:44:49 AM
Paddy McNeill was looking after the fitness of the Hurling squad a couple of years ago and I have to say the reports were def not good, he was very old school and didnt know how to get the players to the peak of their fitness at the right time.

Also alot of muscle injuries that year which IMO is partly down to bad training methods.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 24, 2008, 10:55:29 AM
Quote from: NAG on October 24, 2008, 10:44:49 AM
Paddy McNeill was looking after the fitness of the Hurling squad a couple of years ago and I have to say the reports were def not good, he was very old school and didnt know how to get the players to the peak of their fitness at the right time.

Also alot of muscle injuries that year which IMO is partly down to bad training methods.

And fellas not looking after themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on October 24, 2008, 11:00:36 AM
Minder,

I did say partly didnt I.

Just from what I heard from a few of the boys it was a throw back to training from the rocky films not really what we need when all around us are going more technical and hi tech in their preparation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: water boy on October 24, 2008, 04:41:56 PM
Any predictions on Ballymena V Moneyglass. I know moneyglass have a few handy footballers but who are the star men for Ballymena?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 24, 2008, 06:03:30 PM
i thought john McCluskey was one of the backroom men?
must ask the lads tomorrow on their views on this appointment. it was karl Stewart and anto Healy that were involved in the slapping session at half time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on October 24, 2008, 09:34:44 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on October 24, 2008, 10:14:10 AM
niall conway is a very good & able assistant,

Good Luck Kentucky Baby!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hungry Exile on October 25, 2008, 12:30:53 AM
The rumour running round Belfast tonite is the whole Baker selection was a fix!!

Can anyone confirm:-
1. Baker was proposed by ... Cushendun - that great footballing giant of Antrim football
2. Baker was seconded by ... Cushendall - that other great footballing giant of Antrim football
3. The chairman & vice chairman of the selection committee were from ... yes you've guessed it Cushendun & Cushendall
4. Brady was not allowed to sit on the selection panel because ... he played under White
5. Brady's replacement on the selection panel played under Delargy

Is it all a conspiracy theory that:-
A) the hurlers of the glens have got one over on their footballing brothers
B) the country footballing bumpkins have got one over on their city cousins
C) Both A) & B)

  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hungry Exile on October 25, 2008, 12:52:34 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 24, 2008, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 24, 2008, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: the green man on October 23, 2008, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 23, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
as for niall conway - well he dint cover himself in glory looking at the semi final and minal of the minor championship
last year (07) when changes were crying out to be made but nothing was done (or done too late - if at all).

Its here that I must take umbridge with your post LB.

Didn't they win the semi-final?

If memory serves, a sucker punch goal for Galway won the game!

Anyway, sure he's only in as coach and not manager.

won the semi final but only just, were being cleaned out in most positions after 25 mins (luckily they played great stuff and scored a lot early on)  and nothing was done on the line to change that.
In the final they had the game, but when it turned conway again sat looking at it and did nothing.

with the talent they had , they should have walked the final. lost it on the line imo.

LB is their not a manager whom you think is crap on the line apart from your darling Mickey Harte?
yes - quite a lot actually - Eugene Kelly is one obvious one...

its usually the attention seeking whores that get the jobs and exposure though (not meaning Bradley here , and Mr harte has his daughter for that task anyhow).

I think I have been harsh on Niall Conway, while imo he is still guilty of what I said earler, he is a young manager and can learn from his mistakes and get better with experience - still doesnt necessarily mean hes going to be up there with Harte, but hes already at least on a par with crozier.

A managers quality is most guaged by their ability to make changes when things go wrong as much as their team strategy /gameplan.
imo.


LB
I agreed with your earlier statement. Nice lad, but made some strange omissions from Derry's Minor teams.  I went up to the County final in Derry city & Ballinderry were playing a strong lad Nevin at CHB keeping Ronan McGuckin on the bench.  Apparently he has started for them throughout the year in both league & championship & has done very well.  Yet under Conway he only held bit-parts in last year's minor panel.

I hope I'm wrong but I fear Baker & Conway will be found wanting when put up against the wits of intercounty managers.  As well as that how will they man manage the McGourty's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2008, 10:08:53 AM
You might be a bit harsh on Bradley and his intentions, HS. I think this might be the height of Bradley's ambitions and he's probably darn lucky to get such a chance.

Even if it was a stepping stone, you need to do something exceptional to get the dream position back home.

What does Antrim need to do to improve? St Gall's have shown that their fitness levels are on a par with the rest of the country. They also have a nucleus of 6-7 players of high calibre with mountains of experience and belief. Is it attitude to the county, no matter what soundbites the players come out with?

I suppose success can breed a productive era and a wee bit of improvement in the McKenna and NFL could result in improved commitment to the cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 25, 2008, 11:50:11 AM
last year we came third from top of div 4, thats our ranking, if we come second then thats success, if in the championship we come within 2 points of Donegal then thats success on last year. if we manage to get to the final of the mckenna cup then thats improvement on last year.

Sleeping giant? no i'm going for lazy buggers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on October 28, 2008, 01:52:40 PM
i hear moneyglass and glenavy have been promoted to division one for next yr, i thought it was a 3-5 horse race for second spot in division 2. so whos going to get relegated out of diviosn one this yr then?

whos the players to look for in moneyglass and glenavy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
Im sure Mickey Rea'll be back for that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 01:59:18 PM
Do second top of division 2 and 2nd bottom of division 1 not play off?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 28, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
No play off, 2 down, 2 up.

As Gold previously alluded to the bottom is pretty bloody tight. Those in 3rd could still go down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 04:10:51 PM
Shit I never realised that.

Moneyglass appear to have improved a lot.

St Johns also appear to be improving, typically, at the right time. Lamh Dhearg too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lar na Pairce on October 28, 2008, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
Im sure Mickey Rea'll be back for that!
you mightn't be too far wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bigfrank on October 28, 2008, 09:51:38 PM
did moneyglass play 2nite and if so who won???

Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 28, 2008, 09:54:29 PM
Heard Ballymena won by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 09:55:10 PM
Ballymena won by 2...

Gees would never in a million years have predicted that - they look like they'll get relegated!!

2-8 to 1-9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: laceer on October 28, 2008, 10:05:11 PM
Quote from: Lar na Pairce on October 28, 2008, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
Im sure Mickey Rea'll be back for that!
you mightn't be too far wrong

that'd be brutal if he moves again.is he not playing for derrytresk?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on October 28, 2008, 10:13:55 PM
I heard his da has a quare motorbike in the garage that he doesn't like Mickey showing to anyone. However, Mickey will go into said garage and rev it for anyone that is interested.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lar na Pairce on October 28, 2008, 10:49:30 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on October 28, 2008, 10:13:55 PM
I heard his da has a quare motorbike in the garage that he doesn't like Mickey showing to anyone. However, Mickey will go into said garage and rev it for anyone that is interested.
But only if you wait outside so you can't see it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on October 28, 2008, 10:55:23 PM
 :D

There's nothing like verification from 2 other sources.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 28, 2008, 10:58:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 09:55:10 PM
Ballymena won by 2...

Gees would never in a million years have predicted that - they look like they'll get relegated!!

2-8 to 1-9

Not a great game (my analysis might be bad as it was so fecking freezing I had the hat pulled down over the face and was sat beside beside some clampet from Moneyglass who gave a running commentary of the game - it was like being inside his head, which was a dangerous place).
Moneyglass up 1-3 0-3 at half time. Ballymena missed a fair few scores first half from kick able frees.
Couple of relatively scrappy goals for Ballymena second half and a couple of decent scores...one a might free by Paddy Logan, rolling back the years with that one.
No one really deserved it and no one really stood out although, thought Moneyglasses No.9 (whoever he was) played well enough, McKeefrey wasn't as good as billed on here previously and Brady tried hard but needed a bit more support.

May be wrong but Ballymena should fall at the next hurdle.
But fair play.

Question - if in the same situation as Ballymena would you take (1) the Intermediate title and relegation to Division 3 or (2) a loss in the final and survival in Division 2.
Thinking about it I would go for (1), just.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2008, 01:08:23 AM
Some win for Ballymena. No one give them any chance at half time.

They wont give one fiddlers about that right now around the Slemish, and fair play to them.

Brady and Logan the best two on the pitch and sure we knew that already. What we wanted was the rest to put it up to them, but sadly lacking. Mc keefrey and Marron had their moments, Ryan Doyle a stinker, and the only plus on view was a vintage Peter Mc Nicholl, a gutsy Mc Veigh, and a reminder that class carries, ala, Peter and Paul Mc Cann.

Barney Mc Cann, fair play to ye, great win and I wish I was in the Slemish. Timmy will enjoy a pint tonight in Oz when he gets the news!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 29, 2008, 07:30:59 AM
Big upset alright for B'mena - Moneyglass were probably planning their Ulster campaign the last few weeks waiting for this game to be played.  If B'mena are relegated i wonder if the Logans will look to transfer back to their home club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clarshack on October 29, 2008, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2008, 10:52:23 PM
One boy ventured into the garage after being told to wait outside and just listen. He found Mickey plugging the Flymo in.

heard that one as well  :D

was at the antrim ifc final last night as a couple of stewartstown men are over moneyglass. moneyglass seemed to be in control up until the last 10-15 minutes and didnt look like losing it but somehow they did. thought peter mccann played well for the saints at full forward though. didnt know paddy logan played for the saints - wasnt he an antrim minor in 1997?. if its him he was a great prospect at one stage. unfortunately for ballymena i cant see them progressing far in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on October 29, 2008, 03:09:06 PM
any word on bakers backroom team?

heard richard ferris, from drumsurn is one man.
also heard he wanted tony scullion to help out but think tony is for taking derry minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Richard Ferris in for the Derry minor job, and can you really see Tony Scullion in with Antrim. Get real. Sure that issue was nailed long ago when he was told it was not compatible with his day job.

The three men are Baker, Conway and Paddy Mc Neill, so get used to it and get on with it.

They have been given the job and now its time the rest of us got fully behind them. Personally I wish them all the best, and will be there to support them and the players.

The draw has been kind to us, got Wicklow, Leitrim and Sligo all at home. Away to Waterford last game, should be home and hosed by then, hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Richard Ferris in for the Derry minor job, and can you really see Tony Scullion in with Antrim. Get real. Sure that issue was nailed long ago when he was told it was not compatible with his day job.

The three men are Baker, Conway and Paddy Mc Neill, so get used to it and get on with it.

They have been given the job and now its time the rest of us got fully behind them. Personally I wish them all the best, and will be there to support them and the players.

The draw has been kind to us, got Wicklow, Leitrim and Sligo all at home. Away to Waterford last game, should be home and hosed by then, hopefully.

Has anybody asked the players if they are happy with the appointment or is there a chance they could throw their toys out of the pram like cork :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
Who's Conway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 08:29:19 PM
Ah yes cheers, I forgot.

The one everyone but LB rates :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Richard Ferris in for the Derry minor job, and can you really see Tony Scullion in with Antrim. Get real. Sure that issue was nailed long ago when he was told it was not compatible with his day job.

The three men are Baker, Conway and Paddy Mc Neill, so get used to it and get on with it.

They have been given the job and now its time the rest of us got fully behind them. Personally I wish them all the best, and will be there to support them and the players.

The draw has been kind to us, got Wicklow, Leitrim and Sligo all at home. Away to Waterford last game, should be home and hosed by then, hopefully.

Has anybody asked the players if they are happy with the appointment or is there a chance they could throw their toys out of the pram like cork :)

asked a couple on Saturday, they had a few, so i'll gauge a better view from the sensible ones later
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on November 01, 2008, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Richard Ferris in for the Derry minor job, and can you really see Tony Scullion in with Antrim. Get real. Sure that issue was nailed long ago when he was told it was not compatible with his day job.

The three men are Baker, Conway and Paddy Mc Neill, so get used to it and get on with it.

They have been given the job and now its time the rest of us got fully behind them. Personally I wish them all the best, and will be there to support them and the players.

The draw has been kind to us, got Wicklow, Leitrim and Sligo all at home. Away to Waterford last game, should be home and hosed by then, hopefully.

Has anybody asked the players if they are happy with the appointment or is there a chance they could throw their toys out of the pram like cork :)

 

asked a couple on Saturday, they had a few, so i'll gauge a better view from the sensible ones later

  I presume you asked a few of the St Galls ones?   So they are in the  middle of the Ulster Club and they are out pinting---Does any thing change?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 01, 2008, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on November 01, 2008, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Richard Ferris in for the Derry minor job, and can you really see Tony Scullion in with Antrim. Get real. Sure that issue was nailed long ago when he was told it was not compatible with his day job.

The three men are Baker, Conway and Paddy Mc Neill, so get used to it and get on with it.

They have been given the job and now its time the rest of us got fully behind them. Personally I wish them all the best, and will be there to support them and the players.

The draw has been kind to us, got Wicklow, Leitrim and Sligo all at home. Away to Waterford last game, should be home and hosed by then, hopefully.

Has anybody asked the players if they are happy with the appointment or is there a chance they could throw their toys out of the pram like cork :)

 

asked a couple on Saturday, they had a few, so i'll gauge a better view from the sensible ones later

  I presume you asked a few of the St Galls ones?   So they are in the  middle of the Ulster Club and they are out pinting---Does any thing change?

and still winning!! makes ya wonder. but sure this is an amateur sport. you work all week, having a few pints at the weekend wont make a difference to these lads. training 3 times a week games at the weekend no problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2008, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 01, 2008, 04:03:09 PM
08/03/08

2.30pm   Liatroim       v    Aontroim


Yeeeeeeessssssssss! :) ;) :D ;D 8) :P :-*

??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2008, 04:57:23 PM
08/03/09 then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 01, 2008, 07:49:30 PM
all good, speaking to one of the players and he said they are well up for it. tough game and pressure of being at home with all the neutrals watching on, and some begrudger looking for a fall. Cavan could beat us but we could end up duffing them. (makes no sense :-\)

midfield is where we will dominate. we'll win most ball and hopefully starve Johnstone and Lyng of the ball and force them further outfield in hunt of ball.

i'm going for the 2 point win for Naomh gall setting up a ballinderry semi final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 01, 2008, 08:29:57 PM
no carryout, driving tomorrow >:(

they are training away, very difficult with no floodlights, a lot of clubs have their grounds closed this time of the year.

hopefully stay sober till the Ballinderry game, if we get past Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimexile on November 01, 2008, 09:12:53 PM
I was taking to a former Munster interpro footballer recently:  I seemed to annoy him when I mentioned Antrim 1946.
Can any one confirm re -1/ Antrim invented the hand pass,
                                   2/Kerry banned the hand pass....?mid season?
                                     3/ The thuggery of Kerry v this great Antrim side.   Can anyone shed-exact details please?  Thanks.

             
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 02, 2008, 01:22:38 PM
12 quid in  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 02, 2008, 02:56:23 PM
1-2 to 0-2 to Cavan Gales

Cavan Gales down to 14 men, Rabbit sent off.
Kevin Niblock stretchered off, Kieran McGourty on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 02, 2008, 03:17:24 PM
HT

Cavan Gaels 1-2 St Galls 0-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 02, 2008, 03:42:28 PM
1-4 to 0-7

Sean Burke sent off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 02, 2008, 04:02:40 PM
FT

Cavan Gales 1-7 St Galls 0-7

Kevin McGourty sent off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 02, 2008, 07:36:26 PM
no he didn't do him just a came in late with the boot sort of stampped him. second yellow.

as for the rest of your report, i agree.  i'm sur ethe lads are very disappointed but should be fresh enough for next year. hard to keep going year in year out.

noticed Bradley there watching the match. not much to take out of it other than Brady having a good game on Johnstone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermPundit on November 02, 2008, 07:57:54 PM
How did the the All Saints v Erne Gaels game go today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 02, 2008, 08:04:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 02, 2008, 07:49:22 PM
In fairness, milltown, they've done very little (Ulster finalists last year, fair enough*) since 2005. A bit of a lame argument.

*They haven't been involved after Christmas since 2005. It's hardly been a long slog for them.

hardstation, if you were training as hard as these lads have you'd also welcome a break. playing Championship football in November on top of the league games does take its toll. they have been doing that since 2001!!! thats some slog, but they'd have it no other way. fairs dues Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 02, 2008, 08:17:18 PM
cross are an amazing team, seen that first hand. my point is that the rest will do them good. i'm not making excuse about the match!!  again this is my opinion. it's not like the hurling where two games and your in All Ireland final.  but sure maybe thats just me after my tough match against the Aggies at Noon!!! Christ i'm Fu*ked and a top referee taking the match, non othert and Mr Matthews
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 02, 2008, 08:27:29 PM
he would alright. paddy Ger alec Martin anton and another one, dont mind his name in that order.

ray did well, give us two penalties ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 02, 2008, 08:53:16 PM
0-7 is brutal scoring on a grand day like today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aroundincircles on November 02, 2008, 09:01:39 PM
Did st galls not fancy themselves for ulster???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aroundincircles on November 02, 2008, 09:26:11 PM
certainly cavan gaels no dummies just thought st galls would have enough at home{or near enough} to beat them. Would say they are very disapointed though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 03, 2008, 08:54:03 PM
what ya on about?

his face looks familar though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 03, 2008, 10:41:12 PM
shocked that Galls got beat yesterday--did anyone play well for them??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 05, 2008, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: Hungry Exile on October 25, 2008, 12:30:53 AM
The rumour running round Belfast tonite is the whole Baker selection was a fix!!

Can anyone confirm:-
1. Baker was proposed by ... Cushendun - that great footballing giant of Antrim football
2. Baker was seconded by ... Cushendall - that other great footballing giant of Antrim football
3. The chairman & vice chairman of the selection committee were from ... yes you've guessed it Cushendun & Cushendall
4. Brady was not allowed to sit on the selection panel because ... he played under White
5. Brady's replacement on the selection panel played under Delargy

Is it all a conspiracy theory that:-
A) the hurlers of the glens have got one over on their footballing brothers
B) the country footballing bumpkins have got one over on their city cousins
C) Both A) & B)

  ;) ;)



I haven't posted on this before because I thought it was a wind-up. It appears that there may be some truth in the story. If either 1 or 2 (or indeed both) above is (are) correct, then this is an absolutely shocking turn of events. Would the Gaels of Ballygalget and Portaferry be able to nominate the new Down county football manager when Ross and DJ are inevitably gassed?

Shame on everyone involved in the appointment of the new Antrim senior football management team.

Also noticed Liam Bradley's two page spread in the IN today. Depressing reading throughout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 05, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
SS2 why is bradleys piece such a depressing read?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 05, 2008, 03:18:12 PM
I haven't time now, but I will go over it in more detail later. I'll also post it to allow other posters to make up their own minds and possibly open my own narrow one.

I was disturbed that he spoke so highly of Adrian McGuckin in one breath, then sadi McGuckin had assigned schoolboys to physically target oppostion players as soon as they got off their team bus for a McRory match.

There doesn't seem to be any real background or experience of coaching in Bradley's background to justify the appointment.

There was the liberal use of phrases like getting back respect for the Antrim jersey (which I agree with), but no extrapolation of these points to suggest how he intends to do it.

As a teacher and an Antrim Gael, I was deeply disappointed by the contents. A very gloomy future ahead for the saffrons. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 05, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
SS2 - where are you hearing these stories?
Where is it set in stone that a candidate for the Antrim job has to be nominated by a club? (a serious question, not a rhetorical one)

Woudn't agree with the rule if that was definitely the case - surely it should be open to all parties to apply?

Aside from whatever the rule is and the specific reasons for the decision when it was made the process certainly seems to have worked well and been adhered to so there should be credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimexile on November 05, 2008, 11:11:57 PM
2 weeks ago i posted a query re Antrim V Kerry 1946.  No replies.
Does any one connected with Antrim football remember details relating to this?

As a refresher: Antrim with Kevin Armstrong etc... has developed the short hand pass.  Due to play Kerry in All ireland semi.  Kerry resort to violence.
Can anyone "add some more details to?"  Thanks.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 06, 2008, 11:08:52 AM
Quote from: Glensman on November 05, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
SS2 - where are you hearing these stories?
Where is it set in stone that a candidate for the Antrim job has to be nominated by a club? (a serious question, not a rhetorical one)

Woudn't agree with the rule if that was definitely the case - surely it should be open to all parties to apply?

Aside from whatever the rule is and the specific reasons for the decision when it was made the process certainly seems to have worked well and been adhered to so there should be credit where credit is due.

this question was asked on the official antrim website just after appointment was made, reply was that clubs didnt have to nominate baker. more or less that it was same situation as dinny cahill.

to be precise this is the admins reply:

There are no rules/regulations that stipulate that a prospective candidate needs to be nominated by a club. It may be custom and practice - that's all! Who do think nominated Dinny Cahill for example? .

hope theres a good turnout at trials tonight, as baker says hopefully if he gets 5 or 6 out of it, it has been a good exercise.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 06, 2008, 11:21:57 AM
And then I subsequently read last night in Big Liam's interview in the Irish News that "Once he was approached by a club asking if he would allow them to put his name forward".

Ah well, either way, here's hoping he leads us to the promised land.


PS Dinny Cahill may have been a different ball game (boom boom), I think he was specifically head hunted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 06, 2008, 12:17:01 PM
yeah read that too glensman, aw well its done now, lets just get on with it.

ss2 so reading between the lines, because our county chairman is from a hurling club he shouldnt be involved in picking football manager!?
do you want two separate county boards, one for football & one for hurling, catch a grip man.
i thought teachers were educated people.

as for bakers IN interview, i dont care what he says in paper, its what he says to players & results that im looking for.
i think the trials are good idea, baker knows more about antrim football than most will think, if he doesnt already know it
he will make sure he does.
he took an average glenullin side two or three years ago, to a derry club title last year, its not the actual title im impressed with but the way, he got them up to a certain standard & kept them there & worked with them improving them all the time.
thats what i would be looking from him with antrim, realistically, we arent going to win ulsters or all-irelands, but we have to start competing against teams at a higher level for the whole match,not just in patches, before we can think about beating them & then stay at that level, becoming consistant.
the talent is there for it to happen.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on November 06, 2008, 12:33:09 PM
would disagree with you there. Glenullin were not an average team when baker took them on in his last stint as manager. More a team in transition with a lot of the olders boys leaving and a lot of new blood coming through. To give him credit were its due he guided the bulk of the now playing team right up through from underage, the boys in and around the 23- 27 age mark. he had the added incentive tho that it was his own club and his two lads were involved. he'll take no shit from some of antrim pre madonnas!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 06, 2008, 12:33:49 PM
For anyone whos interested Bakers IN interview was posted on derry football thread here goes enjoy:


ADRIAN McGuckin, he credits, for teaching him most of what he knows. McGuckin's basic

principles on how to play the game, the fusion of ability and attitude essential to be a footballer and a winner, Liam Bradley has never forgotten.

He is into his second week of the biggest job of a career in Gaelic football rooted in a rural parish that, as a boy, did not have the

numbers to field in underage games. Antrim's new senior football manager singled McGuckin out as an inspirational influence.

Scientific football.

The man who coached him at St Patrick's, Maghera, who put trust in Bradley as a full-back on the first Maghera team that captured the prestigious MacRory Cup of Ulster Senior Colleges football in 1977, against Abbey CBS Newry, was not one to buy into the science

spin-doctors.

McGuckin famously responded to a rival school's coach, interviewed prior to a MacRory Cup match, who suggested they would win by

sticking to scientific football – "scientific football my arse". He went on to make it clear Maghera's plain and simple game plan was to "get the ball into the square". Chaos ensued as the 'Hail Marys' turned possession and pressure into profit.

The second half of the game was made academic as Maghera powered to victory.

"Adrian was a brilliant man. He was probably the greatest coach I ever played under, or the greatest coach I've ever seen. He done the simple things, learned you the basics of the game, how to catch and kick a ball, the basics, and that was what Maghera were about at that time. That is why St Pat's were different than anybody else at that time."

Bradley was working to try and make the grade the previous year, 1976, the season St Pat's reached the first of what would be 10 MacRory Cup finals in-a-row. Four wins followed in the '80s, a treble in the '90s, to cement the college's reputation as one of the country's leading football nurseries.

Football was never just about catch and kick, as Liam recalled: "Adrian installed a will to win with us that was unbelievable. I remember playing St Pat's, Cavan in a quarter-final of the MacRory and myself and Seamus Doyle, who used to manage Enniskillen Gaels, were assigned to nudge the Cavan boys even before the game, as they were coming off the bus, just to agitate a bit.

"Apart from showing us the basics of Gaelic football, Adrian's approach was probably more so to do with instilling into players that you always give it your all, that you are never beat, to never ever give up, never lie down to anyone and that's how I have always approached Gaelic football."

Bradley's introduction to it was a short car journey from his home in Glenullin to the neighbouring rival parish of Kilrea. The Glenullin club did not have any juvenile and minor teams then, so Liam and his brothers – Gabriel played on the same team as current Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill – were tutored by the parish priest, "a great GAA man", Father Leo Deery.

"The first person who introduced me to Gaelic football was the late Father Deery. He was a great man, was the priest at the time in Kilrea. Glenullin had no underage structures and myself and all my brothers played for Kilrea at that level. I remember in 1974 we played in an U16 final for Kilrea against Glack. Father Deery was the manager," he said.

"From there I went on to play for St Pat's, Maghera under Adrian McGuckin, was on the first team to win the MacRory Cup, played

full-back on a team Terence Laverty, who went on to play for Antrim, was captain of and that

Kilrea's Kevin McWilliams, who went on to win an Ulster Senior Championship for Derry in 1987, played on. There were a few

characters on it, a few who entered that team as boys and came out of it as men."

A decade later, where he lived had changed, expanded population, and the GAA club was reaping the benefits as the quality of young players allowed John Mitchel's GAC, Glenullin to field across the age groups, one of whom was to become an Allstar before his 19th birthday; Dermot McNicholl.

He was still 19 when he captained the club to win the Derry SFC title. He earned his stripes with Glenullin as an U14 and U16 Derry

Championship medalist and, like Bradley, won MacRory with Maghera – four of them from five

finals (1980-84).

Bradley was part of the club's underage management team at that juncture, working with manager Danny McIlvar and Gerard O'Kane. The coaching bug had bitten him despite being only 21 and playing for Derry.

"In the early '80s there was a great underage set-up at Glenullin, a very good U16 team that came through that included Dermot McNicholl, Danny O'Kane, my brother Dominic, Cathal McNicholl. All those guys went on to play for Derry.

"We won U14 and U16 county titles and were going for a three-in-a-row of minor titles when pipped by the great Lavey team that came through in '82.

"I got involved in coaching at the club at that time and that whetted my appetite. That's when I started coaching and it's just progressed from there. I then took the senior team for a while in the late '80s, Gerard O'Kane and myself were player-managers, and it's esculated from there."

On the playing side of life, that part of his Gaelic football passion did not draw to a close until the mid-1990s.

A minor, U21 and senior with his native Oak Leaf, his days with Derry ended with the arrival of Mickey Moran for his first stint in charge.

"I played right through to senior level, played a few McKenna Cup games," recalled Liam but, in an honest assessment, the reasons for not pushing on to the NFL and Championship arenas were that "I never really cut it at senior with Derry as in the early '80s I was just down the pecking order a bit."

He continued: "I went into the senior panel under Frankie O'Loan and Harry Shivers. They left and Mickey Moran came in. I wasn't part of Mickey's plans. That is just the way it goes."

In 1996, at the age of 36, the need for a place on the washing line for his Glenullin jersey came to an end too.

"I actually played in a Reserve Championship match against Dungiven that year along with Patrick (Derry's 2007 Allstar forward). I was playing middle of the field, Patrick was corner- forward. It was a father-son effort that day. I think Patrick scored nine points and, of course, I supplied most of the bullets. That was my swansong. Dungiven beat us in the semi-final by a couple of points."

Sipping coffee, sitting relaxed at Walsh's Hotel in Maghera, the conversation, spiked with humour as he delved into a selection of memories and milestones that brought him to where he's at now, takes on a more serious note as the focus turns to Antrim, the new job, the great challenge.

On the night he was selected as the successor to Jody Gormley he was described by one official as "a straight talker".

Once he was approached by a club asking if he would allow them to put his name forward, once his mind was made up despite half-a-dozen clubs nominating him for the senior Derry post Paddy Crozier vacated – Bradley was brought into Crozier's backroom team in 2006 – he would decline an interview as Damian Cassidy was "short-odds favourite" and duly appointed, the talking started.

His two sons, Paddy and Eoin, both county seniors, were sounded out. Go for it they advised. His "good friend" Richard Ferris, who brought him in to coach when he was with Drumsurn and Derry's minors before he took charge of Derry U21s seven years ago, was sounded out, so too former Allstar Tony Scullion.

All were in agreement.

"It was a thrill to be asked by an outside county and hopefully it will work out. I knew when this job became available there was plenty of talent in Antrim and I felt that if I could get in there that I could maybe do a job with them.

"Now in Gaelic football a lot of counties go for the home town man but there's a lot to be said for an outsider in some cases. I was delighted to be asked, delighted that Antrim put their faith in me and my backroom team of Niall Conway, who I believe is one of the top young coaches in Ulster, my other selector Paddy McNeill of Rasharkin and Tony McCollum of Creggan, who is the liaison officer."

He is aware of the polarised city/country opinion and outlook that has unfortunately reared its head to divide Antrim often in the past. The topic is unavoidable. But, the new manager insists that whatever happened previously, whatever problems there were – large or small – are of absolutely no interest.

There is a clean slate for every club to sign up to, every player who believes he has something to contribute positively to the cause, for whom wearing the jersey means what it should mean.

"We have listened to stories down through the years about country and city fellas not getting on, but I don't care about that. I know nothing about it. Myself and Niall Conway are coming into this from Derry and we carry no baggage.

"We are going to treat every individual on a level par. I don't care what happened in the past.

Everybody who should be playing for Antrim will be given a chance. All the good footballers in Antrim will hopefully be playing for us come 2009. We are starting off on a level playing field."

Antrim are still wearing the straight-jacket of Division Four. A competitive assembly of opponents, not easy to get past. Jody Gormley's team had its chances but lost their way in the final two rounds, defeat by Waterford at home fastening the basement buckles for another NFL campaign.

Promotion then perhaps?

Liam's eyes run through the fixture list. Wicklow, the county that beat Antrim for the Tommy Murphy Cup in '07, the county that lost to Antrim in that same cup's final at Croke Park in August, at home first clip. Leitrim, managed by the county manager who didn't see him as part of his senior Derry plans as a player, Mickey Moran.

"It is a coincidence that Mickey has taken up a new managerial post with Leitrim and I've been

appointed by Antrim. One of the hardest games Antrim will probably have next year will be playing in Carrick-on-Shannon in our fourth game of the National League. I will be looking forward to that game alright. It will be an interesting game.

"I know it is Division Four football, but there's a lot of strong teams in there with us, Carlow, Sligo, we're at home to Wicklow in our first game. None are pushovers. It's a tough, very, very competitive League."

Promotion a realistic target then perhaps? He isn't making any promises because the "realistic target" he will set the new Antrim squad assessed and put in place for January's tune-up for the NFL, the Dr McKenna Cup, is what he believes is a first base basic essential. If achieved, and he is adamant that it will be, Antrim will move forward.

"We will not be setting any targets at this stage. It is only the beginning of November and all we will be telling our players when we meet them is gain a bit of respect for Antrim football. The first night we meet them, that's what we will tell the players – get respect for Antrim football.

"If they can gain that respect then they will not be that far away, I think. That is the target we will be setting ourselves. I would not have taken the job on if I didn't think I was capable of doing it and capable of, I'll not say bringing them forward, but getting Antrim a bit of respect.

"First and foremost Antrim football, and guys might say no this isn't true, but I'd say they have very little respect throughout Ulster.

"You know, the first draw everybody wants in the Ulster Championship is Antrim. They think it is going to be an easy thing and probably rightly so because they've won so few games in the Championship in the past 20 years and more, so we know we're the whipping boys of Ulster.

"Fermanagh used to be whipping boys in Ulster also but not anymore. Fermanagh have set the benchmark of where Antrim want to be. Gaelic

footballers have to realise that, when they join a county panel, they are ambassadors for that county and you have to get a mindset into them that it is about a will to win, a will to improve.

"That is what we will be trying to install. The management team I've drawn up know it is a big, big task but I think with a bit of work, things might change next year."

Respect. The initial target he wants delivered. He could not be any clearer on that. Players have to raise their collective game to earn the respect he states, from someone unattached to the county previously, Antrim does not attract from others.

Driving them along will be the tried and tested approach to Gaelic football, and an uncompromising will to be winners, his college coach taught him.

It's taken Liam this far. He intends to make sure Antrim in '09 stick to the same principles he believes can see the Saffrons prosper.

When the MacRory Cup old boy sends his players out to take on Donegal in next summer's Ulster Senior Championship, the coach he respects so much from his college days is likely to be on air, a radio match analyst, calling it – as he's renowned for – as he sees it.

That Sunday's report will be interesting to listen to. His former pupil will obviously hope the final assessment is one of straight As for his Antrim side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 06, 2008, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 06, 2008, 12:17:01 PM
ss2 so reading between the lines, because our county chairman is from a hurling club he shouldnt be involved in picking football manager!?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. A man who has never played or promoted the game within his own club has no right to be involved in the selection process, regardless of his position on the county board. Would you be happy with Cargin and Moneyglass men installing the new Antrim hurling manager?

What should have happened is this. A sub-committee should have been formed from among the members of the county board (with an interest or experience in Gaelic football), along with outside experts (possibly from the Ulster council). These men should have identifed the requirements of the job, drawn up a short list of candidates, interviewed them and installed the best candidate.

Quote from: culchy1 on November 06, 2008, 12:17:01 PM
do you want two separate county boards, one for football & one for hurling, catch a grip man.

No, I don't, twice as many numpties is not the answer. I would settle for one where the figurehead can demonstrate an interest in both codes.

There are those who suggest that we are halfway to your scenario, that all we need is a football board, but I wouldn't go that far. Yet.

Quote from: culchy1 on November 06, 2008, 12:17:01 PM
i thought teachers were educated people.

More fool you then. In my experience most teachers are those who fecked up their A Levels, couldn't get into a proper university so went to the Ranch instead.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
You Antrim folk amuse me. Instead of complaining about Liam Bradley, you should be celebrating the fact that someone with managerial experience has decided to sacrifice his reputation to take you. Remember you are amongst the worst counties in the country, you have no tradition and if Sean Boylan and Alex ferguson took you it would still be an impossible task.
And as for SS2 talking about the "promised land"- where exactly would that be in Antrim  terms- more than 15 turning up for training.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2008, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
You Antrim folk amuse me. Instead of complaining about Liam Bradley, you should be celebrating the fact that someone with managerial experience has decided to sacrifice his reputation to take you. Remember you are amongst the worst counties in the country, you have no tradition and if Sean Boylan and Alex ferguson took you it would still be an impossible task.
And as for SS2 talking about the "promised land"- where exactly would that be in Antrim  terms- more than 15 turning up for training.

whoooo...TFAL sit back, watch the abuse thats about to come your way. I am going to enjoy this...come on SS2...step up to the challenge :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 06, 2008, 04:07:05 PM
what amazes me is that from the info I have been told , it was Madden all the way that 'transformed' Glenullin, baker had little or nothing to do with it except ride along on his coat tails (I am sure he had some kind of meaningful input)  but according to fellas from within their club, its Madden was the messiah and Bradley has taken acolades for it ever since...

Lets see what he does, and dont mind them bellaghy boys, they are a dead loss in Derry these days and are trying to pick fights with people less successful than themselves now - though having won the tommy cooper cup, Antrim are now better off than than the impoverished bellaghy trophy cabinet !
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The GAA on November 06, 2008, 04:13:46 PM

I didn't even know baker stayed on when madden took the job.

baker is not up to county management lads so i hope he gets good men around him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 06, 2008, 04:07:05 PM
what amazes me is that from the info I have been told , it was Madden all the way that 'transformed' Glenullin, baker had little or nothing to do with it except ride along on his coat tails (I am sure he had some kind of meaningful input)  but according to fellas from within their club, its Madden was the messiah and Bradley has taken acolades for it ever since...

Lets see what he does, and dont mind them bellaghy boys, they are a dead loss in Derry these days and are trying to pick fights with people less successful than themselves now - though having won the tommy cooper cup, Antrim are now better off than than the impoverished bellaghy trophy cabinet !
;)

Lb do you have a bitch in every club and county? :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 06, 2008, 04:28:04 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 06, 2008, 04:07:05 PM
what amazes me is that from the info I have been told , it was Madden all the way that 'transformed' Glenullin, baker had little or nothing to do with it except ride along on his coat tails (I am sure he had some kind of meaningful input)  but according to fellas from within their club, its Madden was the messiah and Bradley has taken acolades for it ever since...

Lets see what he does, and dont mind them bellaghy boys, they are a dead loss in Derry these days and are trying to pick fights with people less successful than themselves now - though having won the tommy cooper cup, Antrim are now better off than than the impoverished bellaghy trophy cabinet !
;)
anywhere I went I brought the bots. Playing for certain clubs in america and Dublin opened up a lot of contacts throughout the country.

not like them in-bred tyronies who never leave the parish... ;)

Lb do you have a bitch in every club and county? :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2008, 08:45:33 PM
From Antrim Website

County: County Football Trials
06 November 2008
48 player attended tonights Senior Football Trials in Casement Park 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2008, 08:49:38 PM
TFAL as your current league position says - tradition means nothing ;)

I hope Bradley does well. I have reservations but at the end of the day in the championship he can do no worse than we have been doing and the league wasn't great either so things can only get better.

We need an all in from the Galls boys though. Hopefully he can get them and unveil a few others.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 06, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on November 06, 2008, 09:56:44 PM
Did the Mc Gourty's come out to play?

I believe "Shaws Rd" was dying his hair and couldnt make it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2008, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 06, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on November 06, 2008, 09:56:44 PM
Did the Mc Gourty's come out to play?

I believe "Shaws Rd" was dying his hair and couldnt make it.

Minder!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 06, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 06, 2008, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 06, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on November 06, 2008, 09:56:44 PM
Did the Mc Gourty's come out to play?

I believe "Shaws Rd" was dying his hair and couldnt make it.

Minder!!!

Milltown !!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 09, 2008, 11:59:17 PM
Well done to Jane Adams...its not often Antrim win an Allstar in any code
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 10, 2008, 12:52:25 AM
Congrats to Jane Adams. She has been a cut above up here for a while. Thankfully she has received national recognition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 08:55:29 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2008, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
You Antrim folk amuse me. Instead of complaining about Liam Bradley, you should be celebrating the fact that someone with managerial experience has decided to sacrifice his reputation to take you. Remember you are amongst the worst counties in the country, you have no tradition and if Sean Boylan and Alex ferguson took you it would still be an impossible task.
And as for SS2 talking about the "promised land"- where exactly would that be in Antrim  terms- more than 15 turning up for training.

whoooo...TFAL sit back, watch the abuse thats about to come your way. I am going to enjoy this...come on SS2...step up to the challenge :)

Max, you know as well as I do that TFAL is little more than a poor WUM. You have expressed doubts in the past as to whether he is even a Bellaghy man - I would suggest that I could do as good an impression of a Derry man, simply by listening to the Derry wans in work hi.

However, not being one to shirk a challenge I will do my best to answer TFAL's points, although rather than providing stimulating material for mature debate, TFAL has simply provided a small barrel full of large, juicy fish and a big sawn-off shot gun for me.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
You Antrim folk amuse me. Instead of complaining about Liam Bradley, you should be celebrating the fact that someone with managerial experience has decided to sacrifice his reputation to take you.

Managing the Antrim senior football team is a win - win situation for any manager. Make any improvement and it's all down to you, fail to make any improvement and it's all down to the players. One need look no further than Mr Bradley's predecessor, a Mr Jody Gormley. Gormley came into the Antrim job as one of the "best young coaches in Ulster". Two years later, after failing to gain promotion from Div. 4 twice, after failing to win a single championship match, after displaying neither tactical nous nor man management skills at any stage of his reign, Mr Gormley resigns. He is immediately proposed for the position of the Cavan manager, with himself still being described as one of the "best young coaches in Ulster". Regardless of how inept the Baker's reign is (and I fear it will match, if not surpass, Mickey Culbert's and Aidan Thornbury's in terms of gross ineptitude), Baker's reputation (in so far as he has one) will remain intact.

I note too that the short list for the Derry manager's job wasn't exactly bursting with talent, why do think this is?

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
Remember you are amongst the worst counties in the country, you have no tradition

With all due respect, TFAL (or indeed any other Derry man) is not the best soldier to fire that particular missile. To paraphrase your new manager, Damien Cassidy, a county with seven Ulster senior titles in 124 years is not one to quote tradition. And it is certainly not one to quote tradition to a county that had 11 Ulster titles before Derry had one, or that appeared in an All-Ireland final nearly fifty years before Derry did. But keep living in that wee "we're a big county with a strong tradition" bubble if you like. Go to Kerry or Dublin or Down or Tyrone and talk to them about tradition if you want to see Derry's (or, as you say, Antrim's) place in the greater scheme of things.

I would suggest that Derry and Antrim are much of a muchness, both mired in mediocrity, but capable of a lot more. One need only look at last year's record to see how similar the two teams really are. Both lost two league matches; both lost one more championship match than they won; both won a very soft trophy (Derry's NFL and Antrim's TM Cup) - only eight teams entered each, many of the top teams were barred from entry and many of those who did enter didn't take the competitions seriously. It's not too long either since Antrim finished above Derry in Div 2B of the NFL, an event recorded for posterity in the ballad "The Mountains Of Moran".

It is also worth noting that Derry are quick enough to look across the Bann when their teams need to be strengthened in order to allow them to compete on a national level. One need only look at the '93 squad which included Stephen Mulvenna or the Lavey and Ballerin teams who played in All-Ireland club finals with Antrim men in their midst. Look to at who Cassidy chose as his trainer, Kevin Madden (Antrim) or indeed who Paddy Crozier had as his trainer, John McCloskey (Antrim). I could continue but hopefully TFAL can get the point.

I would also suggest that several of the current Antrim squad would stroll on to the current Derry team. McGreevy, McClean, Kelly, Crozier, McGourty and Cunningham would all start, whilst there could be arguments made for the other McGourtys and the McCanns. Conversely, there are men who played for Derry last year who wouldn't make the Antrim team.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
if Sean Boylan and Alex ferguson took you it would still be an impossible task.

Why so, either would bring a level of professional hithertofore unseen in Antrim GAA circles. There is nothing to suggest that Antrim players wouldn't respond to a manager who would easily garner respect from any player serious about inter-county football.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
And as for SS2 talking about the "promised land"- where exactly would that be in Antrim  terms- more than 15 turning up for training.

Can't remember ever mentioning the promised land, but if we're are to be taken seriously, the targets have to be promotion from Division 4 and an Ulster final appearance. No team of mine would go to Ballybofey and lose there and we are eminently capable of beating any of the teams we would meet in the saemi-final. The reality is that we will not get promoted, we will lose to Donegal and whoever we get in the first round of the qualifiers. Personally, I won't be blaming Baker, I'll be blaimng those who gave him the job.

Hope this helps Max.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on November 11, 2008, 09:13:57 AM
encore encore!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 08:55:29 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 06, 2008, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
You Antrim folk amuse me. Instead of complaining about Liam Bradley, you should be celebrating the fact that someone with managerial experience has decided to sacrifice his reputation to take you. Remember you are amongst the worst counties in the country, you have no tradition and if Sean Boylan and Alex ferguson took you it would still be an impossible task.
And as for SS2 talking about the "promised land"- where exactly would that be in Antrim  terms- more than 15 turning up for training.

whoooo...TFAL sit back, watch the abuse thats about to come your way. I am going to enjoy this...come on SS2...step up to the challenge :)

Max, you know as well as I do that TFAL is little more than a poor WUM. You have expressed doubts in the past as to whether he is even a Bellaghy man - I would suggest that I could do as good an impression of a Derry man, simply by listening to the Derry wans in work hi.

However, not being one to shirk a challenge I will do my best to answer TFAL's points, although rather than providing stimulating material for mature debate, TFAL has simply provided a small barrel full of large, juicy fish and a big sawn-off shot gun for me.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
You Antrim folk amuse me. Instead of complaining about Liam Bradley, you should be celebrating the fact that someone with managerial experience has decided to sacrifice his reputation to take you.

Managing the Antrim senior football team is a win - win situation for any manager. Make any improvement and it's all down to you, fail to make any improvement and it's all down to the players. One need look no further than Mr Bradley's predecessor, a Mr Jody Gormley. Gormley came into the Antrim job as one of the "best young coaches in Ulster". Two years later, after failing to gain promotion from Div. 4 twice, after failing to win a single championship match, after displaying neither tactical nous nor man management skills at any stage of his reign, Mr Gormley resigns. He is immediately proposed for the position of the Cavan manager, with himself still being described as one of the "best young coaches in Ulster". Regardless of how inept the Baker's reign is (and I fear it will match, if not surpass, Mickey Culbert's and Aidan Thornbury's in terms of gross ineptitude), Baker's reputation (in so far as he has one) will remain intact.

I note too that the short list for the Derry manager's job wasn't exactly bursting with talent, why do think this is?

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
Remember you are amongst the worst counties in the country, you have no tradition

With all due respect, TFAL (or indeed any other Derry man) is not the best soldier to fire that particular missile. To paraphrase your new manager, Damien Cassidy, a county with seven Ulster senior titles in 124 years is not one to quote tradition. And it is certainly not one to quote tradition to a county that had 11 Ulster titles before Derry had one, or that appeared in an All-Ireland final nearly fifty years before Derry did. But keep living in that wee "we're a big county with a strong tradition" bubble if you like. Go to Kerry or Dublin or Down or Tyrone and talk to them about tradition if you want to see Derry's (or, as you say, Antrim's) place in the greater scheme of things.

I would suggest that Derry and Antrim are much of a muchness, both mired in mediocrity, but capable of a lot more. One need only look at last year's record to see how similar the two teams really are. Both lost two league matches; both lost one more championship match than they won; both won a very soft trophy (Derry's NFL and Antrim's TM Cup) - only eight teams entered each, many of the top teams were barred from entry and many of those who did enter didn't take the competitions seriously. It's not too long either since Antrim finished above Derry in Div 2B of the NFL, an event recorded for posterity in the ballad "The Mountains Of Moran".

It is also worth noting that Derry are quick enough to look across the Bann when their teams need to be strengthened in order to allow them to compete on a national level. One need only look at the '93 squad which included Stephen Mulvenna or the Lavey and Ballerin teams who played in All-Ireland club finals with Antrim men in their midst. Look to at who Cassidy chose as his trainer, Kevin Madden (Antrim) or indeed who Paddy Crozier had as his trainer, John McCloskey (Antrim). I could continue but hopefully TFAL can get the point.

I would also suggest that several of the current Antrim squad would stroll on to the current Derry team. McGreevy, McClean, Kelly, Crozier, McGourty and Cunningham would all start, whilst there could be arguments made for the other McGourtys and the McCanns. Conversely, there are men who played for Derry last year who wouldn't make the Antrim team.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
if Sean Boylan and Alex ferguson took you it would still be an impossible task.

Why so, either would bring a level of professional hithertofore unseen in Antrim GAA circles. There is nothing to suggest that Antrim players wouldn't respond to a manager who would easily garner respect from any player serious about inter-county football.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 06, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
And as for SS2 talking about the "promised land"- where exactly would that be in Antrim  terms- more than 15 turning up for training.

Can't remember ever mentioning the promised land, but if we're are to be taken seriously, the targets have to be promotion from Division 4 and an Ulster final appearance. No team of mine would go to Ballybofey and lose there and we are eminently capable of beating any of the teams we would meet in the saemi-final. The reality is that we will not get promoted, we will lose to Donegal and whoever we get in the first round of the qualifiers. Personally, I won't be blaming Baker, I'll be blaimng those who gave him the job.

Hope this helps Max.

SS2 ye are a man of many words...even though most of them are shite. ;) But fair play to you, on this occassion you have stepped well up to the mark...and took on the bold TFAL, whom sadly I am now convinced is a Bellaghy man. On the comparsions of Antrim and Derry thou...I would take Derrys current plight and potential rather than Antrims...would you agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 12:51:17 PM
SS2 ye are a man of many words...even though most of them are shite. ;) But fair play to you, on this occassion you have stepped well up to the mark...and took on the bold TFAL, whom sadly I am now convinced is a Bellaghy man. On the comparsions of Antrim and Derry thou...I would take Derrys current plight and potential rather than Antrims...would you agree?

That first sentence is straight out of the Lynchbhoy repetoire - he's either beginning to influence you or he is you.

As for your second question, yes, I would certainly take Derry's current plight and potential over Antrim's. I would also take your manager and your county board. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 12:51:17 PM
SS2 ye are a man of many words...even though most of them are shite. ;) But fair play to you, on this occassion you have stepped well up to the mark...and took on the bold TFAL, whom sadly I am now convinced is a Bellaghy man. On the comparsions of Antrim and Derry thou...I would take Derrys current plight and potential rather than Antrims...would you agree?

That first sentence is straight out of the Lynchbhoy repetoire - he's either beginning to influence you or he is you.

As for your second question, yes, I would certainly take Derry's current plight and potential over Antrim's. I would also take your manager and your county board. :)

sure we all know what you think of him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaagaa on November 11, 2008, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 08:55:29 AM
Regardless of how inept the Baker's reign is (and I fear it will match, if not surpass, Mickey Culbert's and Aidan Thornbury's in terms of gross ineptitude), Baker's reputation (in so far as he has one) will remain intact.

sure can they think any less of him in derry the way he ws treated going in for the derry job - total distain
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on November 11, 2008, 02:09:44 PM
I wonder which one is costing more?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 11, 2008, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 12:51:17 PM
SS2 ye are a man of many words...even though most of them are shite. ;) But fair play to you, on this occassion you have stepped well up to the mark...and took on the bold TFAL, whom sadly I am now convinced is a Bellaghy man. On the comparsions of Antrim and Derry thou...I would take Derrys current plight and potential rather than Antrims...would you agree?

That first sentence is straight out of the Lynchbhoy repetoire - he's either beginning to influence you or he is you.

As for your second question, yes, I would certainly take Derry's current plight and potential over Antrim's. I would also take your manager and your county board. :)

sure we all know what you think of him

Everything is relative. Given a choice between Cassidy and Bradley, I would select Cassidy.

You can keep those Slaughneil boys - I wouldn't be interested in them. They sound like lunatics.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: NAG on November 11, 2008, 02:09:44 PM
I wonder which one is costing more?

Well nag Derry dont pay...to many hard liners in there. What about antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on November 11, 2008, 03:29:10 PM
Max, you seriously just made me burst out laughing there, cassidy is doing it for the love of the oak leaf and baker is over in casement to ressurect the saffron cause. There was a question asked at the county meeting the other night how much he was getting paid and the good doctor said nothing when the dogs in the street know that he is being paid. Lets be real about this topic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on November 11, 2008, 04:07:30 PM
Getting paid or expenses??

travelling from glenuillen to belfast - approx 60 miles?? thats 120 round trip - 40p per mile.....thats £48 per night travelling - round up to £50 times 4 or 5 times aweek for various training, planning etc - so Baker is probably on £200-£250 a week which makes it approx £1000 per month - £12,000 per year.

Just my take on it.........

Sambo & Woody - getting paid or expenses????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on November 11, 2008, 04:07:30 PM
Getting paid or expenses??

travelling from glenuillen to belfast - approx 60 miles?? thats 120 round trip - 40p per mile.....thats £48 per night travelling - round up to £50 times 4 or 5 times aweek for various training, planning etc - so Baker is probably on £200-£250 a week which makes it approx £1000 per month - £12,000 per year.

Just my take on it.........

Sambo & Woody - getting paid or expenses????

Cromagh it is 52p per mile when on county duty, so you doing the guy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on November 11, 2008, 04:19:58 PM
so max - does all county players get that as well as managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 04:25:42 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on November 11, 2008, 04:19:58 PM
so max - does all county players get that as well as managers

I'm almost sure that is the standard rate for all, except for those who are on central council duty which is a bit more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on November 11, 2008, 08:43:47 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 11, 2008, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on November 11, 2008, 04:07:30 PM
Getting paid or expenses??

travelling from glenuillen to belfast - approx 60 miles?? thats 120 round trip - 40p per mile.....thats £48 per night travelling - round up to £50 times 4 or 5 times aweek for various training, planning etc - so Baker is probably on £200-£250 a week which makes it approx £1000 per month - £12,000 per year.

Just my take on it.........

Sambo & Woody - getting paid or expenses????

Cromagh it is 52p per mile when on county duty, so you doing the guy.

OK then...so baker gets £63 per night x 5 = £315per week = £1260 per month which means £15120 for the year. So all the begrudgers saying how much hes getting........well thats what hes owed under Croke Park rules. Add in Niall Conway on prob similar expenses......Sambo travels a bit further than Woody - and both will be sit in around £12,000 each.

Just my calculations. Not slating them for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 12, 2008, 10:00:57 PM
Anyine know the Galls Rasharkin result?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2008, 10:15:01 PM
draw.

0-10 to 2-4

Rasharkin could stay up yet. They've more favourable games left than the johnnies. Johnnies have to play st galls but judging by the tones of some of milltown's posts there's no love lost. Lamh Dhearg too so another derby.

Rasharkin could be fit to beat gorts and brigids.

Johnnies getting relegated - who'd have thought it? (they always seem to pull it out of the bag though so maybe counting my chickens...)

A few years ago the johnnies reserve team could probably have competed bottom end of current division 1. How time change.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 12, 2008, 10:18:09 PM
Cheers...good resut for Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 12, 2008, 11:48:29 PM
draw tonight. league gone, maybe no interest after tonigh,  flood lights at casement i noticed on way over tonight, what was on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 13, 2008, 10:42:36 AM
Good result last night for Rasharkin surely!

any one of 7 teams could go down if results go certain ways!
think gorts are doomed, heard they are to play 3 matches inside the last week before cut-off.
but if they fail to beat cargin at the weekend then their down, their remaining matches are against
st johns on tues night at casement & then rasharkin away on thurs night.
rasharkin have st brigids at home on sunday, then gorts thurs night & cargin away next saturday.
thinks lamhs will get themselves safe, they have creggan at home sat, then st johns away last game next sun.
johnnies have galls away sun, gorts on tues at casement & lahms at home last game.
st brigids have got rasharkin away sunday & then away to galls which isnt fixed!
creggan still arent safe either, lamhs away sat, portglenone at home not fixed & galls away not fixed!
and even at that st pauls play portglenone this weekend, whoever wins is safe but loser could be in bother,
and as its st pauls last game they would have to sit and watch, but expect them to win!

any cobination of results could happen so totally impossible to even guess who might go down.
if rasharkin get a result on sunday against brigids it really will be squeaky bum time for everyone!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 13, 2008, 10:57:12 AM
Could someone post up the Div 1 Antrim football table if possible. Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 13, 2008, 12:56:56 PM

                     PL  W L D FOR AG  DIF PTS
Cargin             16 13 3 0 286 190 96  26
St. Galls           14 10 3 1 197 135 62  21
St. Pauls          17 7 8 2 196 189    7  16
Portglenone     16 8 8 0 209 219  -10 16
St. Brigids        16 7 8 1 201 202   -1  15
Creggan          15 7 8 0 172 191  -19 14
Lamh Dhearg   16 6 8 2 176 212  -36 14
St. Johns        15 6 8 1 162 194  -32 13
Rasharkin        14 5 7 2 152 181  -29 12
Gort Na Mona  15 3 11 1 164 202 -38  7


Score difference could have a say yet!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 13, 2008, 02:16:00 PM
McCann eager for Australia move 

Antrim ace Thomas McCann is a target for Aussie Rules clubs
Saffrons star Thomas McCann is the latest young GAA player to be linked with a move to a professional career in the Australian Football League.

The 21-year-old Cargin clubman will travel Down Under in March with Geelong among the clubs expressing an interest.

McCann has indicated his desire for a move to the AFL and said that "it's one of those things which you might never get the chance to do again".

Tyrone minor star Kyle Coney is among the recent recruits to Aussie Rules.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2008, 04:18:21 PM
He wouldn't remind me of the sort o boy who'd have a physique for aussie rules?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2008, 05:58:46 PM
Irish are running hot
Dan Silkstone | November 13, 2008

HEAVING, beet-red and slathered in zinc cream the two young Irishmen hurled themselves onto the grass at Gosch's Paddock yesterday. And smiled.

Welcome to Australia.

"It's tough, no doubt about it," said 19-year-old County Antrim man Niall McKeever after training with Richmond's senior group. "The weather is just brutal."

They had left a chilly autumn with temperatures hovering in single figures and arrived on Sunday. Yesterday as they were put through their paces on their second day of a week-long trial at Tigerland, the two AFL aspirants slogged through 35-degree heat.

McKeever — a lanky 195 centimetre ruckman type with shoulders burned to red — grabbed a gulp of water as a minder from player manager Ricky Nixon's stable advised him to pick up some aloe vera on the way home.

"What's that then?" he wondered aloud.

Apparently there is not much call for it in Northern Ireland.

On the basis of yesterday's session, if the pair do not make it as AFL footballers it will not be for lack of application. Watching on, you wondered how they were possibly surviving under the punishing sun, but still they smiled and kept going.

"People warned me that Melbourne would be four seasons in one day, but since I got here it has been one season all day and every day," McKeever laughed afterwards.

McKeever and compatriot Conor Meredith are among five of the Gaelic game's brightest prospects, chosen from a camp held by Nixon in Ireland in August and flown to Melbourne for extended trials at Richmond, North Melbourne and St Kilda.

For those who make the grade, a spot on the rookie list and a potential new career on the other side of the world beckons.

The training drills are not entirely different to those of the amateur Irish game, both said, nor the aerobic capacity required to keep up. Yesterday, as the entire group ran a callous series of unending 200-metre sprints Meredith and McKeever impressively kept pace with their new colleagues.

But when the shirts came off the difference in size and power was stark.

"I'm competing well out here," McKeever said. "But in the gym it's the total opposite. I'm fairly fit, but for strength and power there is a big difference."

Then there's the swimming. In a recovery session at the beach on Tuesday, the two Irishmen struggled to do much more than prevent themselves from drowning.

Muscle can be added — it is what conditioning staff do with all rookies. Other things come harder. McKeever says the kicking is the biggest obstacle and you can see it as he puts his boot through the pigskin in a kicking drill and gives it a high, up-and-under arc unlike the flat, stab pass of a modern AFL player. Overhead marking is handled more assuredly. He has been working at home with a rugby ball, but has hardly ever kicked an Australian rules ball.

"I know that will get better, though," he says. "I hope that I've shown that I can improve physically in the gym and that I am capable of competing with these players."

The professionalism of the Australian game, he says, is the biggest attraction. "The coaches are so disciplined, there's so much help and support, anything you need, they help you."

It's a long way from the amateur pursuits of Gaelic football and the surveying degree at university that awaits him at home if his trial is unsuccessful.

McKeever was a senior listed player at his county, as was Meredith. They are among the brightest talents in the Irish game. The player many judge as the brightest — Tommy Walsh — will arrive in just over a week for a trial with St Kilda.

In Melbourne, they are pasty curiosities with big dreams, but these boys — and their journey — are big news back home. At yesterday's session they were watched by an Irish newspaper journalist and filmed by a camera crew from RTE, the Irish public broadcaster. Their more illustrious Tiger teammates were clearly amused at the media attention and responded with the obligatory ribbing.

Director Stephen McQuillan is making a documentary about Nixon's Irish experiment and the growing player exodus to Australia.

"It's quite a controversial thing over there," he says. "There's a movement from the players towards some sort of payment. When you see a player like Tommy Walsh coming out here who is the young player of the year over there, he's like a young Chris Judd. Marty Clarke before that was the best young player of his generation. They are losing heroes."

Walsh's imminent arrival is already big news in Ireland with Nixon hoping the young star is not pressured into withdrawing from the trial. Walsh's decision to try his luck in Australia is an even greater blow considering his father — Sean Walsh — is chairman of traditional powerhouse County Kerry.

McKeever has no idea what position he might play — though he says others have told him he'd make a good half-back. He has a background in soccer as well as Gaelic football and says he has dreamed of making a living from his talents.

"To do something you love and be paid and do it every single day of your life would be just unbelievable," he says.

Meredith — from County Louth — is 19, shorter but still athletic and more of a power runner. He can't stop smiling, though he looks as though he might vomit from the workout he has just completed.

"I love it here so far," he says. "I wasn't expecting such a high level of intensity in the training. The ball is tough, but this heat is a major factor. It's just so draining."

The word they both use to describe their adventure is lifestyle. "You see the life these guys live, the city, the weather, the training they put into their bodies and it is amazing," Meredith says.

Word has spread around the talented youth of Ireland — the achievements of household names such as Tadhg Kenneally and Clarke have not gone unnoticed. The exotic dream that brought Jim Stynes to Australia is becoming a commonplace ambition. Who knows what that will hold for the Irish game?

"People talk about it a lot," Meredith says. "There are more windows opening up here for us all the time. There will be nine or 10 Irish players here soon and they are all top players back home. The GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) people will be mad and definitely be against it, but what can they do to stop it? It's the individual's choice and for me the lifestyle here, the weather, everything is just great."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/irish-run-hot/2008/11/12/1226318743800.html?page=2

If you go to the link it shows a picture of him aswell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2008, 06:17:21 PM
Thanks for that JS. Niall Mc Keever is from the same club as myself, and a really good prospect. Because of his lanky frame, he is naturally very lean, but at 19 years old he has plenty of time to develop into it.

Whatever about his career prospects, or his undoubted football ability, he is a complete gentleman. Wouldnt know how to say a bad word, and probably gets Mass every morning. Would be a huge loss to his club, but hopefully it all works out for the best for Niall.

( To be honest I`d like him home to play for his club and county next year! )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2008, 07:20:13 PM
His aul fella doesnt want him to go either but how do you turn down an opportunity like that. Could turn out to be Antrims gain if it doesnt work out for him, he would come home built like a shit house after 2 years professional training and walk straight into the midfield position for Antrim for the next 10 years. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 13, 2008, 07:34:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 13, 2008, 04:18:21 PM
He wouldn't remind me of the sort o boy who'd have a physique for aussie rules?

Wouldn't think so, very skillful footballer but not you typical AFL man???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on November 13, 2008, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2008, 08:43:37 AM

Anyhow, Butterknife tells me that, despite an outright denial by the county chairman at a recent county board meeting, Baker is allegedly being handsome rewarded for his managerial "talents". It seems that a father - son combination, each with a much more impressive CV than Bradley, would have been available for roughly half what the fabulous Baker boy is getting. I may have been critical of the father's track record in the past, but he would be a massive step up from what we landed ourselves with.

Shame on you, Dr McSparran.

I dont think so somehow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2008, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on November 13, 2008, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2008, 08:43:37 AM

Anyhow, Butterknife tells me that, despite an outright denial by the county chairman at a recent county board meeting, Baker is allegedly being handsome rewarded for his managerial "talents". It seems that a father - son combination, each with a much more impressive CV than Bradley, would have been available for roughly half what the fabulous Baker boy is getting. I may have been critical of the father's track record in the past, but he would be a massive step up from what we landed ourselves with.

Shame on you, Dr McSparran.

I dont think so somehow!

No, I am serious. Both the father and son have more impressive CVs than Bradley. As do most fathers and their sons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on November 13, 2008, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2008, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on November 13, 2008, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2008, 08:43:37 AM

Anyhow, Butterknife tells me that, despite an outright denial by the county chairman at a recent county board meeting, Baker is allegedly being handsome rewarded for his managerial "talents". It seems that a father - son combination, each with a much more impressive CV than Bradley, would have been available for roughly half what the fabulous Baker boy is getting. I may have been critical of the father's track record in the past, but he would be a massive step up from what we landed ourselves with.

Shame on you, Dr McSparran.

I dont think so somehow!

No, I am serious. Both the father and son have more impressive CVs than Bradley. As do most fathers and their sons.

I am well aware that both the father and son to whom you are referring have much, much better CV's than Baker.  I was indicating more to the point that the combination you were referring to would not have been available to Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 08:54:42 PM
what club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2008, 08:55:31 PM
The McGourtys? Who else could handle our Kevin and get our Kieran to commit?

I think I know who you are referring to though. Your name gives it away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
do ya think kevin will be playing for Antrim next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aroundincircles on November 13, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
how many mcgourtys are there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 13, 2008, 09:15:58 PM
Nobody's really sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
talented family, two ladies and three lads. all Gaels

thought you were a mate O'Neill? you know seeing you work with him ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aroundincircles on November 13, 2008, 09:17:45 PM
mcgourty senior must have an idea all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 13, 2008, 10:52:26 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on November 13, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
how many mcgourtys are there


too many
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aroundincircles on November 13, 2008, 11:25:09 PM
would of thought they are a decent gaa family all the same are they all brothers and sisters??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on November 14, 2008, 10:33:37 AM
just lookin in on your thread cause the derry one is so shite at the minute... Im i reading correctly between the lines here that Sean Mc Gourtyy and one of his  sons were harbouring ambitions in taking Antrim?? Maybe im totally off the radar, but Kevin has been getting plenty of management experience with all the ladies teams hes been involved with ( on a strictly professional level too  ;) )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 14, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
Why will Shaws Road not be playing for Antrim this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 14, 2008, 11:05:18 AM
heard a rumour he was going to play for down...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: toiletroller on November 14, 2008, 10:33:37 AM
just lookin in on your thread cause the derry one is so shite at the minute... Im i reading correctly between the lines here that Sean Mc Gourtyy and one of his  sons were harbouring ambitions in taking Antrim?? Maybe im totally off the radar, but Kevin has been getting plenty of management experience with all the ladies teams hes been involved with ( on a strictly professional level too  ;) )

No I made that up.

Quote from: the colonel on November 14, 2008, 11:05:18 AM
heard a rumour he was going to play for down...

Wouldn't surprise me. Apparently a member of Ross Carr's management team works in the same PE department as a couple of sources close to Kevin McGourty and may well be applying subtle pressure to these sources.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bitta-Banter on November 14, 2008, 11:57:09 AM
Heard couple of rumours bout K McGourty comin to play for a Down club,if he does hes a header.Why would he leave a club that his da and brothers are all at?Also i hear the Down management have made it clear that if he does come to play in Down they wont be goin near him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sonny Joe on November 14, 2008, 11:58:42 AM
Funny enough i heard that also, does he not go out with P O'Roukes daughter? It must be a rumour why would he want to leave St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!

would he be fat , bald and wee , with no disposable income ?
;) :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!



Well then, you would also know that neither possesses the command of written English that I do. Nor indeed does any PE teacher.

So, alas, you will just have to keep guessing my culchy friend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!



Well then, you would also know that neither possesses the command of written English that I do. Nor indeed does any PE teacher.

So, alas, you will just have to keep guessing my culchy friend.

do I win a prize ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 14, 2008, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 14, 2008, 11:05:18 AM
heard a rumour he was going to play for down...

I remember back in the day when he said he was gonna go to play for Down minors as Antrim were shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 14, 2008, 02:47:55 PM
Does anyone give a good f*ck who he is going to play for, be it Antrim, Down or the Harlem Globetrotters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 14, 2008, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 14, 2008, 02:47:55 PM
Does anyone give a good f*ck who he is going to play for, be it Antrim, Down or the Harlem Globetrotters.

surena
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!

would he be fat , bald and wee , with no disposable income ?
;) :D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
do I win a prize ?

No prizes, I am not ONeill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!

would he be fat , bald and wee , with no disposable income ?
;) :D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
do I win a prize ?

No prizes, I am not ONeill.
but I was close - with the 'no disposable income' part....and could have added 'has no life of his own'
;) :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!

would he be fat , bald and wee , with no disposable income ?
;) :D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
do I win a prize ?

No prizes, I am not ONeill.
but I was close - with the 'no disposable income' part....and could have added 'has no life of his own'
;) :)

You're correct of course and between myself and yourself, you'll get all four attributes you outlined. Compared with fat, wee and bald, I'll take the no disposable income jibe. You could have added ugly and boring and got a royal flush for the Lynchbhoy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 03:58:54 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 14, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 14, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
SS2, these sources, you wouldnt be talking about yourself, would you?
i know 2 teachers who works in a pe dept who would be very, very close to kevin!
one was on the front page of gael sport presenting a cup!!!

would he be fat , bald and wee , with no disposable income ?
;) :D

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 14, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
do I win a prize ?

No prizes, I am not ONeill.
but I was close - with the 'no disposable income' part....and could have added 'has no life of his own'
;) :)

You're correct of course and between myself and yourself, you'll get all four attributes you outlined. Compared with fat, wee and bald, I'll take the no disposable income jibe. You could have added ugly and boring and got a royal flush for the Lynchbhoy.
while it wasnt a jibe at you, I am a little bit unsure of what you said.
however I can only admit guilt to the 'ugly' bit - however - boring...well yes, but in comparison to yesteryear theres no contest!
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2008, 10:54:14 PM
Some harsh things on this thread. I've reported most of you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2008, 01:50:14 AM
Starting to get a wee bit fcukin annoyed and that wouldnt be very good. No one fcuks about with Antrim football and gets away with it, and Jasus Im startin to get hot under the collar. Dr and your cohorts Im goin to go easy on yous and ease in with a comment that youse havent a fcukin clue about football, and thats just for starters.

Now dont really get me going. Starting to get crosss abut the fcukin whole situation and thats goin to make for some situation that youse wont get your cosy holes out of.

As Saffron Sam says to the Doctor, Shame on you! Not a fcukin clue about football and dont ever pretend to. Time your going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 15, 2008, 07:12:08 AM
Few drinks last night bannside??  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 08:26:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 15, 2008, 01:50:14 AM
Starting to get a wee bit fcukin annoyed and that wouldnt be very good.

Will be deadly craic on here when you're fully annoyed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
Dont f**k with Bannside. Word
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
just watched our seniors beat the Johnnies down at the pitch. couldn't beat them enough. anyway my post is about the Johnnies methods. have they not realised those bully tactics don't work!!!  that result will put them in diffs. who else is fighting it out down there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2008, 11:15:32 PM
what was the score Drici? old habits filter back in maybe. but fair play to them, decent team. sure we finished with 13 against Gaels and we aren't a dirty team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2008, 11:20:50 PM
thats a duffin by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermPundit on November 16, 2008, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: drici on November 16, 2008, 11:17:01 PM
Drumhowan 3-12 McDermotts 0-05

I was at this game today and although a little one sided, McDermott's had an excellent free taker who was very accurate from off the ground. Any idea who he was?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 16, 2008, 11:58:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 16, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
just watched our seniors beat the Johnnies down at the pitch. couldn't beat them enough. anyway my post is about the Johnnies methods. have they not realised those bully tactics don't work!!!  that result will put them in diffs. who else is fighting it out down there?

what happened to Galls seniors v Rasharkin?  had u any team out at all?

heres the table:

Cargin  16 13 3 0 286 190 96 26
St. Galls  15 11 3 1 209 144 65 23
St. Pauls  18 8 8 2 210 195 15 18
St. Brigids  17 8 8 1 212 209 3 17
Creggan Kickhams  16 8 8 0 184 201 -17 16
Portglenone  17 8 9 0 215 233 -18 16
Lamh Dhearg  17 6 9 2 186 224 -38 14
St. Johns  16 6 9 1 171 206 -35 13
Rasharkin  15 5 8 2 159 192 -33 12
Gort Na Mona  15 3 11 1 164 202 -38 7


looks like any one from Johnnies, L Dhearg or Raharkin will join Gort in Div 2 next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 17, 2008, 10:42:18 AM
anyone know what fixtures are being played this week?

had heard johnnies & gort were to play tuesday night at casement,
but not on county website as yet.
gort were also to play rasharkin away on thursday night, which is fixed for saturday on website!

bit of a surprise creggan beating lamhs,
i hear paddy cunningham had cast cut off his foot before match,
by club members!!!!
he came on at half time, limping about, could hardly run,
still got a couple of points though.
signs of panic stations up on hannahstown!!

lamhs & st johns match could be good one next week,
if its still all to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 17, 2008, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 17, 2008, 10:42:18 AM
anyone know what fixtures are being played this week?

had heard johnnies & gort were to play tuesday night at casement,
but not on county website as yet.


it is now

St. Johns  Gort Na Mona  Casement Park 18/11/2008 19:30 Dougan Gerard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2008, 05:00:47 PM
Well done to St Marys CBS. Third win in a row in McRory Cup. Keep it going lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 17, 2008, 06:16:19 PM
St Marys 2-6
St McCartans 0-7

St Marys now progress to the quarter final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
Thats some going by St Marys good to see. so that dispells that myth. that we need our school teams in the McRory cup to be a better football county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on November 17, 2008, 09:06:38 PM
casements look dodgy yet not totally safe gold,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2008, 10:10:32 PM
16 points looks enough for portglenone. Unforunately I think Rasharkin will do down. St Johns should get the gort na mona points and rasharkin st galls doesn't help.

Milltown I'm not sure what you mean about the schools football? The myth that we need our schools in mcrory cup to be a better football county?? Do you mean the myth is that only "better" counties can have successful schools? Or do you mean that the myth is that we need schools in there to be successful county - that can hardly be changed in one year? Not having a go but just seemed a fairly ambiguous statement...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on November 17, 2008, 10:39:10 PM
We should be safe enough.  Our score difference should be enough. 
Lamh Dearg could be dodgy.  If Rasharkin beat Gorts they would be on 14 points and if St John beat Gorts they are on 15.  so the St Johns Lamh Dearg game could be the cruncher.  If St Johns beat Lamh Dearg, Lamh Dearg could go down on Score Difference even if Rasharkin don't get any points from there games with Cargin and St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 17, 2008, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
Thats some going by St Marys good to see. so that dispells that myth. that we need our school teams in the McRory cup to be a better football county

Bit early to say that, don't think it's a myth at all. Give it a few years of schools success and you breed winners who have experience of facing and beating the top talent from other counties. Think Fermanagh owe an awful lot to the hard work done at St Michael's Enniskillen and some other secondary schools to a lesser extent for the past few years of relative success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2008, 07:12:48 AM
St Marys progress a bright light in what has been a horrendous year all round for Antrim Football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 18, 2008, 11:41:19 AM
st johns v. gortnamona tonight casement 7.30pm throw-in.

cargin v. rasharkin tomorrow night in toome 8pm throw-in.

rasharkin v. gortnamona thursday night 7.30pm throw-in.

what would we do without lights!!!?/?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 18, 2008, 12:07:12 PM
Does anyone know where you could see the McCrory Cup tables at?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 18, 2008, 03:43:27 PM

(http://i33.tinypic.com/kbygbq.jpg)

St Mary's CBS Belfast -v- St Macartan's Monaghan Win for St Mary's, now leaving them with 6points out of 3 games.

One more victory will see St Mary's into the semi final of the McCormick Cup

Remaining fixtures:

Group B
St Mary's CBS Belfast   -v- St Mary's Magherafelt
St Patrick's Armagh  -v- Omagh CBS                                         
St Patrick's Cavan -v- St Macartan's Monaghan     

Group B
St Mary's CBS Belfast  -v- Omagh CBS                         
St Patrick's Armagh -v-  St Macartan's Monaghan   


Competition Format:

• The top team in Group A & B will play off for the McCormick Cup on Saturday 29th November 2008. (N.B. Extra time if necessary).

• The first 3 teams in each group will progress to the knock-out stages

• The play-offs (N.B: extra time if necessary in all cases) for the remaining 2 quarter-final places will take place as follows:  A4 –v– B5 and A5 –v– B4 on Saturday 29th November.

• The procedure for ranking teams which are tied on points in either group will be as follows:

• Where 2 teams are tied on points, the rank order will be determined by the result of the game between the 2 tied teams; if that particular game had ended in a draw, then their ‘score difference’ over the 5 group games will determine the placings.

• Where more than 2 teams finish level on points, the rank order will be determined by the ‘score difference’ in the matches involving the tied teams; where necessary, ‘scores for’ in the relevant matches will be the next criterion to be used, followed by ‘scores against’.

• No team may be eliminated from any competition on score difference alone, so there will be an additional play-off if there are teams level on points in 5th / 6th place in either group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
Thats some going by St Marys good to see. so that dispells that myth. that we need our school teams in the McRory cup to be a better football county

What i was trying to say was this. experts here and from other counties have used the fact that because we didnt't have a school competing in the McRory cup was having an effect on our poor return in senior county football. i personally thought that was rubbish as St Mary's and St Malachys (for a time) had McRory Cup teams for years and we were still crap at football.

the myth being, good McRory cup team = good county team

Gorts may beat the Johnnies, they were rubbish against us. they huffed and they puffed but "whack for the diddle" was never heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
Thats some going by St Marys good to see. so that dispells that myth. that we need our school teams in the McRory cup to be a better football county

What i was trying to say was this. experts here and from other counties have used the fact that because we didnt't have a school competing in the McRory cup was having an effect on our poor return in senior county football. i personally thought that was rubbish as St Mary's and St Malachys (for a time) had McRory Cup teams for years and we were still crap at football.

the myth being, good McRory cup team = good county team

Gorts may beat the Johnnies, they were rubbish against us. they huffed and they puffed but "whack for the diddle" was never heard

It definitely helps, Milltown. Most of the great players in every county played MacRory football...it'll do Antrim the world of good to be competing, and competing well, with the cream of underage football. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
Thats some going by St Marys good to see. so that dispells that myth. that we need our school teams in the McRory cup to be a better football county

What i was trying to say was this. experts here and from other counties have used the fact that because we didnt't have a school competing in the McRory cup was having an effect on our poor return in senior county football. i personally thought that was rubbish as St Mary's and St Malachys (for a time) had McRory Cup teams for years and we were still crap at football.

the myth being, good McRory cup team = good county team

Gorts may beat the Johnnies, they were rubbish against us. they huffed and they puffed but "whack for the diddle" was never heard

It definitely helps, Milltown. Most of the great players in every county played MacRory football...it'll do Antrim the world of good to be competing, and competing well, with the cream of underage football. 

Bollix. Who did Peter Canavan play for? Or Brian Dooher? Or Kieran McGeeney? Or Kieran McKeever? Or Tony Scullion? Or Kevin McGourty? Or Johnny McBride? Or the entire free state?

There is no direct correlation between MacRory and senior inter-county football. In fact, the demands placed on MacRory players is more likely to put them off or out of football for good. In the past I have highlighted three Hogan Cup winning teams (mid - late 90s) from three different northern colleges (Maghera, Dungannon and St. Colman's). From those three teams, really only two players had / are having worthwhile senior inter-county careers. I have highlighted in the past the rivalry between Maghera and St. Mary's. They met in two finals and one semi-final in the mid 80s; Maghera winning twice. Of those who played 12 Maghera man have senior All-Ireland medals, only one St. Mary's man had a decent career with Antrim. In fact, more Maghera men played senior championship football for Antrim than St. Mary's. Why do think that is?

In my opinion third level football is a better examination of players' abilities at senior inter-county level and Antrim have had a decent representation in Sigerson / Ryan Cup football over the year.

A very lazy contribution there Shane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
Thats some going by St Marys good to see. so that dispells that myth. that we need our school teams in the McRory cup to be a better football county

What i was trying to say was this. experts here and from other counties have used the fact that because we didnt't have a school competing in the McRory cup was having an effect on our poor return in senior county football. i personally thought that was rubbish as St Mary's and St Malachys (for a time) had McRory Cup teams for years and we were still crap at football.

the myth being, good McRory cup team = good county team

Gorts may beat the Johnnies, they were rubbish against us. they huffed and they puffed but "whack for the diddle" was never heard

It definitely helps, Milltown. Most of the great players in every county played MacRory football...it'll do Antrim the world of good to be competing, and competing well, with the cream of underage football. 

Bollix. Who did Peter Canavan play for? Or Brian Dooher? Or Kieran McGeeney? Or Kieran McKeever? Or Tony Scullion? Or Kevin McGourty? Or Johnny McBride? Or the entire free state?

There is no direct correlation between MacRory and senior inter-county football. In fact, the demands placed on MacRory players is more likely to put them off or out of football for good. In the past I have highlighted three Hogan Cup winning teams (mid - late 90s) from three different northern colleges (Maghera, Dungannon and St. Colman's). From those three teams, really only two players had / are having worthwhile senior inter-county careers. I have highlighted in the past the rivalry between Maghera and St. Mary's. They met in two finals and one semi-final in the mid 80s; Maghera winning twice. Of those who played 12 Maghera man have senior All-Ireland medals, only one St. Mary's man had a decent career with Antrim. In fact, more Maghera men played senior championship football for Antrim than St. Mary's. Why do think that is?

In my opinion third level football is a better examination of players' abilities at senior inter-county level and Antrim have had a decent representation in Sigerson / Ryan Cup football over the year.

A very lazy contribution there Shane.

Very easy also to list players who didn't play MacRory football, you could provide just as long a list of people like Ronan Clarke, Sean Cavanagh and Barry Owens who have done so, and what the hell is McGourty doing on that list of players?
That statistic from the St Mary's Maghera rivalry says more about the problems in Antrim at the school leaving age group than it does about anything else. You can't argue that playing and succeeding at MacRory level is a real advantage for county teams down the line if they can keep the players away from the distractions of life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
Brian McGuigan
Sean Cavanagh
Ciaran Gourley
Cormac McAnallan
Pascal McConnell
Stephen O'Neill
Joe McMahon
Justin McMahon
Philip Jordan
Ronan Clarke
Oisin McConville
etc
etc

The list of current inter-county footballers who have played MacRory is endless. Add to the the great players of the 90s - Blaney, Tohill, McCartan bla bla bla...those sides were littered with MacRory players .

The mistake you're making is counting only MacRory Cup winning sides. The likes of McConville wouldn't show up on your radar, even as an All-star.

Anyone who thinks that playing MacRory Cup football will not help bring players on either

a) needs their head examined
b) Is under stress
c) wasn't picked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2008, 08:58:39 PM
It is only of late that Antrim have had greater representation at third level and that undoubtedly helps.

Unfortunately a lot of those guys were schooled in Derry. Yes - the Belfast players weren't but Kevin Brady, Kevin Madden, Mick McCann, Tomas McCann, Justin Crozier and guys like that went to McRory schools. Were st marys not in mcrory when Kevin McGourty was there too? Quite a number of successful Belfast players would have played in successful McLarnon schools too.

Third level football, after not having played McRory, is some shock to the system. McRory is that bit harder and faster and it takes a lot of adapting. Yes it can be done but it puts you one step below the other boys you're playing against,

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 09:03:08 PM
A two-time winning MacRory Cup and one Hogan Cup winning manager who has also won county titles as manager at minor and U21 level told me in the late 90s that MacRory Cup was the fastest, fittest football there is out there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:13:54 PM
Another poor contribution from Mr ONeill.

Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
Brian McGuigan
Sean Cavanagh
Ciaran Gourley
Cormac McAnallan
Pascal McConnell
Stephen O'Neill
Joe McMahon
Justin McMahon
Philip Jordan
Ronan Clarke
Oisin McConville
etc
etc

Of that list, I reckon McGuigan would have been every bit as good a footballer without the MacRory, you can't coach his talent. Likewise Stephen O'Neill was a very good footballer before he ever played MacRory - other posters might be able to shed more light on his second level education. With one exception, your list contains guys who played University football, which I contend is more important. You haven't disproved that theory.

Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
The list of current inter-county footballers who have played MacRory is endless. Add to the the great players of the 90s - Blaney, Tohill, McCartan bla bla bla...those sides were littered with MacRory players .

Of course it isn't endless. There is a finite list of current inter-county players and from that list a subset has played MacRory. Your reference to the players of the 90s is also a red herring. Preparation was different then, teams relying more on natural ability - there was no such thing as professional coaches. McGuckin took Maghera's preparation to another level, other teams have followed to the extent that MacRory preparation is akin to a professional sport and as such more likely to discourage than encourage. Blaney and McCartan would have been greats regardless of whether or not they ever played MacRory  and I would suggest that Tohill's time in Australia was much more important in his development than the MacRory.

Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM

Anyone who thinks that playing MacRory Cup football will not help bring players on either

a) needs their head examined
b) Is under stress
c) wasn't picked

MacRory football is not about bringing players on. it is in the main about schools and their principals making a name for themselves and the coaches making a living outside school for themselves.

I will admit to a) and c) above though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 09:20:33 PM
I find that reply bewildering.

You're trying to say that playing MacRory Cup football (which some say was a pre-requistite to getting a univeristy place for many) against the best players and colleges in most counties in the province offers no advantage whatsoever to players between the ages of 16-18, especially those who dwell in counties without particulaly strong vocational GAA opportunities?

If so...well I'll leave it for others to judge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
So, it's now about getting into university, rather than developing your footballing ability.

How can you say definitively that MacRory football is played "against the best players ... in most counties in the province"?

Was Tyrone's All-Ireland minor winning team made up exclusively of players from MacRory schools, given that Tyrone players attend nearly half of the current MacRory schools?

What sort of footballer could Peter Canavan really have been had he been exposed to MacRory football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 09:34:43 PM
Put it like this, Cavan and Antrim have poor records in the Ulster championship over the last 25 years (bar '97). In that time their MacRory Cup tradition is somewhat parallel to that. Fermanagh have made some kind of fist of things from 2003-2008, reaching an All-Ireland semi, quarter and an Ulster final as well as division 1 football. From 1999-2002 they played in every MacRory final, taking or sharing the title three times. Maybe the Fermanagh posters can identify the link in terms of players.  

Now, you can say the talent was there pre-MacRory but surely that competition helped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 18, 2008, 09:34:52 PM
I think players of the calibre of Tohill, Canavan, O'Neill and McGuigan would not have made any real benefits from playing McRory cup regarding the ultimate achievements in the careers.

For some of the less spectacularly gifted players on O'Neills list there, as well as a few who are missing, McRory cup was a great lift to getting them to the standard they are at today.

Allstar players like Davy Harte and Phillip Jordan are prime examples. Davy was never blessed with being a great underage player however just after his rannafast year he catapulted onto the Omagh CBS McRory team. I think McRory cup football was where that current all star really started to become the player he is today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 09:39:30 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
So, it's now about getting into university, rather than developing your footballing ability.

How can you say definitively that MacRory football is played "against the best players ... in most counties in the province"?

Was Tyrone's All-Ireland minor winning team made up exclusively of players from MacRory schools, given that Tyrone players attend nearly half of the current MacRory schools?

What sort of footballer could Peter Canavan really have been had he been exposed to MacRory football.

I don't like to insult, but they are 4 sentences grasping at straws.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 09:39:30 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
So, it's now about getting into university, rather than developing your footballing ability.

How can you say definitively that MacRory football is played "against the best players ... in most counties in the province"?

Was Tyrone's All-Ireland minor winning team made up exclusively of players from MacRory schools, given that Tyrone players attend nearly half of the current MacRory schools?

What sort of footballer could Peter Canavan really have been had he been exposed to MacRory football.

I don't like to insult, but they are 4 sentences grasping at straws.

Yes, that input helps the debate. Are you drinking tonight?

Read back over this thread and see some of the tactics employed by the doyen of MacRory managers, Adrian McGuckin.  

"Bradley and Doyle, you beat them boys as soon as they get off the bus. The rest of you, lump the ball in high and hard and cause chaos."

Whilst it can be argued that MacRory football has helped some individual players, I still contend that third level football is more important in their development. To paraphrase, ahem, yourself, playing against the best players and colleges in all counties in the country.

But, yes, you continue with the insults.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 09:47:33 PM
From a Fermanagh perspective back in the early 90's St Mick's had Raymie Gallagher, Shane King Archie Greene and people like that who went on to win a Ulster U21 title and play for Fermanagh at senior level.
In more recent times which I'd know better the St Mick's team produced countless players who went on to play at senior level for the county during probably our most successful ever period:
Ronan Gallagher, Colm Bradley, Niall Tinney, Ryan Keenan, Barry Owens, Marty McGrath, Shane McCabe, Mark O'Donnell, Raymie Johnston, Niall Keenan, Ryan McCluskey, Mark Murphy, Ciaran Boyle, Peter Sherry, Paul Ward, Colm Monaghan and god knows how many others.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 09:47:33 PM
From a Fermanagh perspective back in the early 90's St Mick's had Raymie Gallagher, Shane King Archie Greene and people like that who went on to win a Ulster U21 title and play for Fermanagh at senior level.
In more recent times which I'd know better the St Mick's team produced countless players who went on to play at senior level for the county during probably our most successful ever period:
Ronan Gallagher, Colm Bradley, Niall Tinney, Ryan Keenan, Barry Owens, Marty McGrath, Shane McCabe, Mark O'Donnell, Raymie Johnston, Niall Keenan, Ryan McCluskey, Mark Murphy, Ciaran Boyle, Peter Sherry, Paul Ward, Colm Monaghan and god knows how many others.

Everything is relative.

Is that a higher percentage of players than would have played for St. Mick's and then Fermanagh when both were shite?

How can you say that Marty McGrath's MacRory career was more influential than his Sigerson? Did the antics of Corrigan and Henry tip McCabe and McCluskey towards soccer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 10:04:58 PM
Don't have the numbers to back it up but I would suggest it is a higher number than when Fermanagh were even worse. The school under Corrigan and Peter McGinnity in the 90s made huge strides at schools football and openly targeted top players from other schools for entry at sixth year like Owens and McGrath did. I know what you're saying about third level too but I think that work at MacRory level was crucially important for the future and success of Fermanagh football.
Dom's antic weren't all bad.
Would be interesting to speak to as many players as possible on this, but any time I have they speak very highly of the MacRory competition and the influence it had on them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 10:05:35 PM
 
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:46:56 PM

Whilst it can be argued that MacRory football has helped some individual players,

That's a start. Tomorrow morning you'll be a convert.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 10:41:20 PM
OK so when Antrim had teams playing McRory cup what did we win or achieve O'Neill?  I'll tell ya... Nothing we are rubbish at football but have delusions of grandeur when we talk up players like Crozer and the McCanns who played McRory cup, and it means nought

if the county could adopt a club mentality and train like a club then we might get somewhere. not too many friends on th county team. boys stood up and give off about the Galls players who stepped down after the Cavan game. i'll be surprised if they all go back. personal attacks on dedicated county players by people within the team would be hard to heal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 11:06:53 PM
Hard to know.

The last time Antrim appeared in an Ulster Final was 1970. They won their last MacRorys in '70 and '71. Probably a coincidence given the age.

Sorry, forgot about '86...but sure in'87 they held Tyrone (All-Ireland finalists) to a draw!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 11:29:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 11:06:53 PM
Hard to know.

The last time Antrim appeared in an Ulster Final was 1970. They won their last MacRorys in '70 and '71. Probably a coincidence given the age.

Sorry, forgot about '86...but sure in'87 they held Tyrone (All-Ireland finalists) to a draw!


i wouldn't say theyt were playing for antrim at that point.

and 15 years later they were more than likely in Jail ;) christ thats it the bloody troubles caused it :o

look, getting to finals was law of averages, we were bound to get to some, who'd we beat to get there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on November 18, 2008, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:13:54 PM
Another poor contribution from Mr ONeill.

Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
Brian McGuigan
Sean Cavanagh
Ciaran Gourley
Cormac McAnallan
Pascal McConnell
Stephen O'Neill
Joe McMahon
Justin McMahon
Philip Jordan
Ronan Clarke
Oisin McConville
etc
etc

Of that list, I reckon McGuigan would have been every bit as good a footballer without the MacRory, you can't coach his talent. Likewise Stephen O'Neill was a very good footballer before he ever played MacRory - other posters might be able to shed more light on his second level education. With one exception, your list contains guys who played University football, which I contend is more important. You haven't disproved that theory.

Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
The list of current inter-county footballers who have played MacRory is endless. Add to the the great players of the 90s - Blaney, Tohill, McCartan bla bla bla...those sides were littered with MacRory players .

Of course it isn't endless. There is a finite list of current inter-county players and from that list a subset has played MacRory. Your reference to the players of the 90s is also a red herring. Preparation was different then, teams relying more on natural ability - there was no such thing as professional coaches. McGuckin took Maghera's preparation to another level, other teams have followed to the extent that MacRory preparation is akin to a professional sport and as such more likely to discourage than encourage. Blaney and McCartan would have been greats regardless of whether or not they ever played MacRory  and I would suggest that Tohill's time in Australia was much more important in his development than the MacRory.

Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 08:56:22 PM

Anyone who thinks that playing MacRory Cup football will not help bring players on either

a) needs their head examined
b) Is under stress
c) wasn't picked

MacRory football is not about bringing players on. it is in the main about schools and their principals making a name for themselves and the coaches making a living outside school for themselves.

I will admit to a) and c) above though.


Very interesting debate. As regards to Stephen O'Neill, Stevie played for Tyrone vocationals in 97 whilst a pupil at St. Joseph's Plumbridge before he went to Omagh CBS, and he made his debut for the then Donagheady club in 1996 as a 15 year old. To put the thing into perspective, I believe Stevie was the only lad in the last 15 of the now defunct Plum school to play vocational schools football for Tyrone as a 5th year (possibly Peter O'Neill of Gortin also did the year previous as he was a County Minor in 96, but I don't believe so)

Whilst MacRory football isn't the be all and end all, I would contend that it has played a major role in the success certainly within Tyrone over the past decade, however, a strong vocational schools system has also been equally vital. There aren't too many guys that slip through the net without playing some form of representative football before the age of 18. Our St Michael's friends would also extol the virtues of the MacRory. However, the rigours of the competition certainly have destroyed players as well. There are quite a few guys from say Maghera and Colmans teams in the past that many have waxed lyrical about in Corn MacRuairi that have dropped completely from the radar or indeed went to University and have just been plain shite - you don't have to go back too many finals to see just one such player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2008, 12:01:52 AM
You're not referring to Mark Lynch are you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on November 19, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2008, 12:01:52 AM
You're not referring to Mark Lynch are you?

To be fair the lad I was thinking of is neither Colmans or Maghera, I possibly phrased that badly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 10:04:58 PM
Don't have the numbers to back it up but I would suggest it is a higher number than when Fermanagh were even worse. The school under Corrigan and Peter McGinnity in the 90s made huge strides at schools football and openly targeted top players from other schools for entry at sixth year like Owens and McGrath did. I know what you're saying about third level too but I think that work at MacRory level was crucially important for the future and success of Fermanagh football.
Dom's antic weren't all bad.
Would be interesting to speak to as many players as possible on this, but any time I have they speak very highly of the MacRory competition and the influence it had on them.

You are proving my point again. Was the poaching of players like Owens and McGrath designed to enhance their inter-county careers or the profiles of the school and managers involved? Few, if any, MacRory managers are primarily concerned about the long term development of their charges.

Whilst Dom's (and indeed Henry's) antics may not have been all bad, I feel that both have crossed the Rubicon and neither should be allowed near a school team again. Their underling, Master Rasdale, why is his coaching record better at St. Mick's than it was at St. Mary's?


Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 10:05:35 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:46:56 PM

Whilst it can be argued that MacRory football has helped some individual players,

That's a start. Tomorrow morning you'll be a convert.

Well, it's the afternoon by this stage and no, I am not a convert. The only names mentioned in this thread who I can say probably benefited from McRory football are Gourley and McConnell. Two men from small, insignificant, Junior clubs who would have been destined for a life on teams littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men playing against teams little Gortin, Tattyreagh and Derrytresk, each littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men. When boys from small clubs have an opportunity to play alongside and against boys from senior clubs, then some will realise they have the potential to be as good. Now you could extrapolate, as you have, and say playing against the better schools will help your ability. One of my main arguments against this remains that those charged with managing MacRory teams do not have the long term interests of students in their own minds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 19, 2008, 03:07:27 PM
QuoteWell, it's the afternoon by this stage and no, I am not a convert. The only names mentioned in this thread who I can say probably benefited from McRory football are Gourley and McConnell. Two men from small, insignificant, Junior clubs who would have been destined for a life on teams littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men playing against teams little Gortin, Tattyreagh and Derrytresk, each littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men. When boys from small clubs have an opportunity to play alongside and against boys from senior clubs, then some will realise they have the potential to be as good. Now you could extrapolate, as you have, and say playing against the better schools will help your ability. One of my main arguments against this remains that those charged with managing MacRory teams do not have the long term interests of students in their own minds.

Good one.  I would hardly say from a goal keepers point of view McRory Cup is going to be hugely improve you - you are either a good keeper or not.  As for the tripe about insignificant clubs, a bit harsh considering the Rock who Gourley plays for won the Tyrone and Ulster Title last year and reached the All Ireland final.  As for the supposed countless numbers of fat, toothless and baldy men at junior level in Tyrone, you will also find quite a number of All Ireland winners (be it Vocational, Minor, U-21 or Senior) aimlessly playing away too. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 19, 2008, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 10:04:58 PM
Don't have the numbers to back it up but I would suggest it is a higher number than when Fermanagh were even worse. The school under Corrigan and Peter McGinnity in the 90s made huge strides at schools football and openly targeted top players from other schools for entry at sixth year like Owens and McGrath did. I know what you're saying about third level too but I think that work at MacRory level was crucially important for the future and success of Fermanagh football.
Dom's antic weren't all bad.
Would be interesting to speak to as many players as possible on this, but any time I have they speak very highly of the MacRory competition and the influence it had on them.

You are proving my point again. Was the poaching of players like Owens and McGrath designed to enhance their inter-county careers or the profiles of the school and managers involved? Few, if any, MacRory managers are primarily concerned about the long term development of their charges.

Whilst Dom's (and indeed Henry's) antics may not have been all bad, I feel that both have crossed the Rubicon and neither should be allowed near a school team again. Their underling, Master Rasdale, why is his coaching record better at St. Mick's than it was at St. Mary's?


Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2008, 10:05:35 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 18, 2008, 09:46:56 PM

Whilst it can be argued that MacRory football has helped some individual players,

That's a start. Tomorrow morning you'll be a convert.

Well, it's the afternoon by this stage and no, I am not a convert. The only names mentioned in this thread who I can say probably benefited from McRory football are Gourley and McConnell. Two men from small, insignificant, Junior clubs who would have been destined for a life on teams littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men playing against teams little Gortin, Tattyreagh and Derrytresk, each littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men. When boys from small clubs have an opportunity to play alongside and against boys from senior clubs, then some will realise they have the potential to be as good. Now you could extrapolate, as you have, and say playing against the better schools will help your ability. One of my main arguments against this remains that those charged with managing MacRory teams do not have the long term interests of students in their own minds.


Sounds like a lovely place SS2  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
jez nrico you didn't take SS2s post seriously. What would an Antrim man know about what it takes to produce teams at county level.  :D Only on the wind up SS2.
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian. In other words lads, the key is highly skilled coaches and thats where Antrim have been struggling at secondary level. Also explaining why Maghera have not been as good as they were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2008, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 19, 2008, 03:07:27 PM
QuoteWell, it's the afternoon by this stage and no, I am not a convert. The only names mentioned in this thread who I can say probably benefited from McRory football are Gourley and McConnell. Two men from small, insignificant, Junior clubs who would have been destined for a life on teams littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men playing against teams little Gortin, Tattyreagh and Derrytresk, each littered with wee small fat baldy toothless men. When boys from small clubs have an opportunity to play alongside and against boys from senior clubs, then some will realise they have the potential to be as good. Now you could extrapolate, as you have, and say playing against the better schools will help your ability. One of my main arguments against this remains that those charged with managing MacRory teams do not have the long term interests of students in their own minds.

Good one.  I would hardly say from a goal keepers point of view McRory Cup is going to be hugely improve you - you are either a good keeper or not.  As for the tripe about insignificant clubs, a bit harsh considering the Rock who Gourley plays for won the Tyrone and Ulster Title last year and reached the All Ireland final.  As for the supposed countless numbers of fat, toothless and baldy men at junior level in Tyrone, you will also find quite a number of All Ireland winners (be it Vocational, Minor, U-21 or Senior) aimlessly playing away too. 

That is a quite a bizarre post. Does MacRory Cup football improve you or not? If a player comes from a small club and is playing against players from senior clubs, then yes he will either improve or sink without trace, regardless of position. McConnell would be playing alongside and facing a more talented player on a more regular basis in the MacRory than he would have been at Newtownstewart. Likewise, I would suggest that MacRory Cup training and preparation is more professional than that for Junior football.

I don't think Junior football in Tyrone is any different or better than for example Derry or Antrim. In my experience of Junior football (admittedly only 60 minutes) I saw more fat, toothless and baldy men than I did in all my years watching / playing Senior / Intermediate football. Some may or may not have had All-Ireland medals - when you throw in that point, you have already lost the argument. You appear to be letting personal links to a Junior club cloud your judgement of the reality of the situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
jez nrico you didn't take SS2s post seriously. What would an Antrim man know about what it takes to produce teams at county level.  :D Only on the wind up SS2.
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian. In other words lads, the key is highly skilled coaches and thats where Antrim have been struggling at secondary level. Also explaining why Maghera have not been as good as they were.

I think McKeever, Scullion, Coleman, McGilligan, Heaney, Barton, Brolly (not to mention sub-bench) might disagree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
jez nrico you didn't take SS2s post seriously. What would an Antrim man know about what it takes to produce teams at county level.  :D Only on the wind up SS2.
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian. In other words lads, the key is highly skilled coaches and thats where Antrim have been struggling at secondary level. Also explaining why Maghera have not been as good as they were.

I think McKeever, Scullion, Coleman, McGilligan, Heaney, Barton, Brolly (not to mention sub-bench) might disagree.

Spirit just to help you

D Mc Cusker
F Mc Cusker
J Mc Gurk
H Downey
A Tohill
D Cassidy
S Downey
E Gromely
D M C Nicholl
E Burns

Theres 10 players out of 17 who played in the 93 final. Looks like a back bone of a team to me. But we'll not split hairs. My point was Big Adrian, St Pats Maghera and the Mc Rory cups contribution to that team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 19, 2008, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
jez nrico you didn't take SS2s post seriously. What would an Antrim man know about what it takes to produce teams at county level.  :D Only on the wind up SS2.
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian. In other words lads, the key is highly skilled coaches and thats where Antrim have been struggling at secondary level. Also explaining why Maghera have not been as good as they were.

I think McKeever, Scullion, Coleman, McGilligan, Heaney, Barton, Brolly (not to mention sub-bench) might disagree.

Spirit just to help you

D Mc Cusker
F Mc Cusker
J Mc Gurk
H Downey
A Tohill
D Cassidy
S Downey
E Gromely
D M C Nicholl
E Burns

Theres 10 players out of 17 who played in the 93 final. Looks like a back bone of a team to me. But we'll not split hairs. My point was Big Adrian, St Pats Maghera and the Mc Rory cups contribution to that team
tohill yes
not the rest !
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:37:24 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
jez nrico you didn't take SS2s post seriously. What would an Antrim man know about what it takes to produce teams at county level.  :D Only on the wind up SS2.
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian. In other words lads, the key is highly skilled coaches and thats where Antrim have been struggling at secondary level. Also explaining why Maghera have not been as good as they were.

I think McKeever, Scullion, Coleman, McGilligan, Heaney, Barton, Brolly (not to mention sub-bench) might disagree.

Spirit just to help you

D Mc Cusker
F Mc Cusker
J Mc Gurk
H Downey
A Tohill
D Cassidy
S Downey
E Gromely
D M C Nicholl
E Burns

Theres 10 players out of 17 who played in the 93 final. Looks like a back bone of a team to me. But we'll not split hairs. My point was Big Adrian, St Pats Maghera and the Mc Rory cups contribution to that team

It had nothing then to do with the fact that the vast majority of those above were playing for what were the top club teams in Derry at the time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 19, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
My home club are not a Junior side, but in keeping with the thread it would be interesting to see the results of the like of St Marys or maybe another Antrim School competing in 'A' Colleges football for a consistent number of years - it can only have a positive affect on the players involved and subsequently it should improve the county team.  But as MM mentioned, the importance of top coaching is paramount to success at any level and in particular at Colleges level.  The successful college sides seem to have high profile players/ex players managing their team and this is bound to be another one of the many factors in their success. I believe it is important for schools to be competing regularly at the highest level of football, but I also think that clubs and their underage structures do not get the credit they deserve.  Geography plays a big part too, as the majority of the successful schools involved in the McRory Cup have the pick of the best players from a large number of clubs (Usually the top clubs).  What clubs would feed the Maghera/Enniskillen/Omagh sides and how many clubs are represented in each panel?    Is the same talent around Omagh/Dungannon/Maghera available in Belfast?  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:52:06 PM
Spirit your are not the brightest. Big Adrian is a factor. he was responsible for developing  these players. Ask any of the aformentioned and they will tell you. All the articles and conversations wiith any of the players i mentioned all credit Mc Guckians contribution significantly.

Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:37:24 PM
It had nothing then to do with the fact that the vast majority of those above were playing for what were the top club teams in Derry at the time?

All the derry players today and before the 90's came from the big club also, so why have we not at least got to another All ireland final?

Our colleges are not producing winning teams like Big Adrains teams of the 80/90s. The two are linked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 19, 2008, 03:55:13 PM
some of the top level schools teams in Leinster at least did not have high profile managers

its only once st pats navan became the 'maghera' of leinster that players started coming from all over to join up and be 'successful' that they began their great successful run (success breeds success and draws more players etc)

in prev years to my knowledge the top teams did not have start managers that were former 'star' players - st mels longford, new ross, portarlington, FCJ etc etc
I dont think st jarlaths of galway had either, but could be wrong...

former 'great' players usually dont make good managers imo and from what I have observed (in schools football as well as club football)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 19, 2008, 04:00:55 PM
cargin v. rasharkin tonight is off!!

???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 04:01:38 PM
Quote from: culchy1 on November 19, 2008, 04:00:55 PM
cargin v. rasharkin tonight is off!!

???

thats a pity ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2008, 04:03:49 PM
Shit culchy what's going to happen there?

That could be trouble for Rasharkin now. That or a benefit with score difference...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:52:06 PM
Spirit your are not the brightest. Big Adrian is the factor. he was responsible for developing  these players. Ask any of the aformentioned and they will tell you. All the articles and conversations wiith any of the players i mentioned all credit Mc Guckians contribution significantly.

Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 03:37:24 PM
It had nothing then to do with the fact that the vast majority of those above were playing for what were the top club teams in Derry at the time?

All the derry players today and before the 90's came from the big club also, so why have we not at least got to another All ireland final?

Our colleges are not producing winning teams like Big Adrains teams of the 80/90s. The two are linked

Nothing then to do with Eamon Coleman, Laveys AI win in 1991, Derry minors in 1989, Tohills physical development in Australia, Down in 1991, Donegal in 1992, Sigerson 87,89,90,91,93...................or are you crediting Big Adrian with all of this. :D :D  Ask any of the aformentioned and, depending on who it is, they'll refer to one or more of these as well.

Sure Adrian was a factor in the 1993 success, but to say he was the factor, well Max, that's just silly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 19, 2008, 04:21:48 PM
not sure tommy whats going on, might be played at weekend, not sure, havent heard!
;)

you might not be far wrong though!!!
a good conspiracy theory!! ;D

max, you should worry about beating the loup or kilrea!?
8)


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 04:41:03 PM
Spirit I'm not disputing anything you said. To help you, in the context of this thread. The discussion was about the realtionship between Mac Rory football and county success, that is the context of Mc Guckian to Derrys success on this discussion. Now FFs keep up with the converstaion. If you get lost in the future, PM me and i will help you out to save yor the embarressment. :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 19, 2008, 04:48:51 PM
Its a depressing old day in work but Maximus you gave me my first laugh of the day there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wherefromreferee? on November 19, 2008, 04:49:57 PM
Is this the busiest the Antrim Football Thread has been?  :o

Surely them hoors from the Derry thread could start their own MacRory debate in a new thread  ;D :-*

MM, nice retort  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 19, 2008, 04:53:16 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 04:41:03 PM
Spirit I'm not disputing anything you said. To help you, in the context of this thread. The discussion was about the realtionship between Mac Rory football and county success, that is the context of Mc Guckian to Derrys success on this discussion. Now FFs keep up with the converstaion. If you get lost in the future, PM me and i will help you out to save yor the embarressment. :D

Yes Max, and you have stated your opinion that McGuckian was the factor, but go on to agree with my list of contibuting factors. You know Max, that poster who said you couldn't even spell football was right on the nail. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on November 19, 2008, 04:49:57 PM
Is this the busiest the Antrim Football Thread has been?  :o

Surely them hoors from the Derry thread could start their own MacRory debate in a new thread  ;D :-*

MM, nice retort  :D

Thanks :D :D he's that slow....he hasn't got it yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 19, 2008, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 10:04:58 PM
Don't have the numbers to back it up but I would suggest it is a higher number than when Fermanagh were even worse. The school under Corrigan and Peter McGinnity in the 90s made huge strides at schools football and openly targeted top players from other schools for entry at sixth year like Owens and McGrath did. I know what you're saying about third level too but I think that work at MacRory level was crucially important for the future and success of Fermanagh football.
Dom's antic weren't all bad.
Would be interesting to speak to as many players as possible on this, but any time I have they speak very highly of the MacRory competition and the influence it had on them.

You are proving my point again. Was the poaching of players like Owens and McGrath designed to enhance their inter-county careers or the profiles of the school and managers involved? Few, if any, MacRory managers are primarily concerned about the long term development of their charges.


Well by design or otherwise it did enhance their inter-county careers. It's not the design on debate. The simple fact is playing at MacRory level set these boys up for a future of competing at the highest levels. Dom & Co may have had more short term selfish goals at heart but Fermanagh football has benefitted in the long term, especially in the case of McGrath who would have been playing division two and three football in Fermanagh with Ederney for the last ten years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 08:29:33 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 19, 2008, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 10:04:58 PM
Don't have the numbers to back it up but I would suggest it is a higher number than when Fermanagh were even worse. The school under Corrigan and Peter McGinnity in the 90s made huge strides at schools football and openly targeted top players from other schools for entry at sixth year like Owens and McGrath did. I know what you're saying about third level too but I think that work at MacRory level was crucially important for the future and success of Fermanagh football.
Dom's antic weren't all bad.
Would be interesting to speak to as many players as possible on this, but any time I have they speak very highly of the MacRory competition and the influence it had on them.

You are proving my point again. Was the poaching of players like Owens and McGrath designed to enhance their inter-county careers or the profiles of the school and managers involved? Few, if any, MacRory managers are primarily concerned about the long term development of their charges.


Well by design or otherwise it did enhance their inter-county careers. It's not the design on debate. The simple fact is playing at MacRory level set these boys up for a future of competing at the highest levels. Dom & Co may have had more short term selfish goals at heart but Fermanagh football has benefitted in the long term, especially in the case of McGrath who would have been playing division two and three football in Fermanagh with Ederney for the last ten years.

So McGrath's time under Dodgy Dom was more important than his Sigerson career, which lasted longer and involved playing with and against better players than his MacRory career?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on November 20, 2008, 09:12:05 AM
whats so dodgy about this Dom man from Enniskillen?! ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
jez nrico you didn't take SS2s post seriously. What would an Antrim man know about what it takes to produce teams at county level.  :D Only on the wind up SS2.
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian. In other words lads, the key is highly skilled coaches and thats where Antrim have been struggling at secondary level. Also explaining why Maghera have not been as good as they were.

For one who has stated that when he has something serious to say, he will say it by PM, to accuse other posters of being WUMs is a bit rich. I can only assume then that your glowing references for Master McGuckin are not to be taken seriously?

Anyhow, on the off-chance that you were being serious I had prepared a detailed response to your core point, namely that "Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened. Maybe i should be more precise and say only for a certain Adrain Mc Guckian (sic).". However other posters (from your own county and I would suggest in one case from the school McGuckian (sic) taught in) have come in and comprehensively debunked the central plank of your argument. There are myriad factors to explain Derry's win in 93, McGuckin may or may not have been one. In additon to those outlined by Lynchbhoy and Spirit, I would add the the decline of traditional powers like Kerry and Meath, the rain in Clones, Donegal going on the drink for a year, Tommy Sugrue's refereeing against Dublin, Tony Davis's sending off and Larry Tompkins's dodgy knees. There are probably others that haven't been mentioned yet.

To highlight another analogy, McGeeney, McConville, the McEntees, O'Rourkes and McNultys all went up through the Abbey. Surely, you will agree then that only for Abbey and Mac Rory cup football 02 would never have happened. Maybe I should be more precise and say only for a certain Val Kane. This counter-example shows the absurdity of your position.

You refer to highly-skilled coaches. Here are a couple of examples of highly-skilled coaching.

From one of his proteges, recently appointed Antrim senior manager, Liam "The Baker" Bradley.

Quote
McGuckin  ... went on to make it clear Maghera's plain and simple game plan was to "get the ball into the square". Chaos ensued as the 'Hail Marys' turned possession and pressure into profit.

Adrian installed a will to win with us that was unbelievable. I remember playing St Pat's, Cavan in a quarter-final of the MacRory and myself and Seamus Doyle, who used to manage Enniskillen Gaels, were assigned to nudge the Cavan boys even before the game, as they were coming off the bus, just to agitate a bit.

1976 MacRory final report from the Irish News

Quote
A foul-ridden, bad tempered MacRory Cup final ... a game that did little for the image of colleges' football ... there was little football of note and whatever there was came from St. Colman's ... there was a tendency to play the man rather than the ball ... several players were lucky not to receive their marching orders

1996 MacRory final report from the Irish News

Quote
Disgraceful scenes spoil .. big day out.

The unseemly and disgraceful melee ... was as disappointing as it was predictable.

the quite laudable notion of will-to-win was subsumed by a win-at-all costs attitude.

Oh, and irrelevantly, but for the record, 1986 MacRory final.

Quote
St. Mary's CBS 1-8 St. Patrick's Maghera 0-6

Let's even look at Derry's record prior to and after 1976, when McGuckin's MacRory teams were unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

All-Ireland Senior titles - Pre-1976 0, Post-1976 1.
All-Ireland Runners-Up - Pre-1976 1, Post-1976 0.
(spot the massive difference)

Ulster Senior titles - Pre-1976 3, Post-1976 3. (1976's win can't be used for statistical purposes)
(again spot the massive difference)

All-Ireland under-21 Titles - Pre-1976 1, Post-1976 1.
(are you beginning to spot the pattern?)

All-Ireland Minor Titles – Pre-1976 1, Post-1976 3.
(a slight improvement, but I will outline other reasons for this improvement if you need me to.)

NFL Titles – Pre-1976 – 1, post 1976 5
(an obvious white crow in my argument, but most of these wins were at a time when real championship teams didn't take the league seriously).

By blinding stating your opinion as fact, you have shown to all and sundry once again, exactly how much you know about football.

But like I said, keep living in that "We are one of the superpowers of the GAA" bubble that you inhabit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 10:07:45 AM
Cheers SS2, you've saved me the bother. The most comprehensive dismantling of an opinion (or should that be fact :D :D) as I have seen on here.  Not that it was that difficult.

To arrogantly state that only for Maghera and McCrory success 93 would never have happened, when anyone with a braincell knows that it was the combination of a multitude of factors, indicates the level of footballing intelligence you're dealing with here.  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on November 20, 2008, 10:19:45 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 08:29:33 AM
The school under Corrigan and Peter McGinnity in the 90s made huge strides at schools football and openly targeted top players from other schools for entry at sixth year like Owens and McGrath did
Quote from: saffron sam2So McGrath's time under Dodgy Dom was more important than his Sigerson career, which lasted longer and involved playing with and against better players than his MacRory career?

Saffron you are right about McGinnity and Dom targeting players in the mid 90's but in the last 10 years there have been many good footballers who have not got in and have been refused entry to Upper sixth because they did not get the grades, regardless of footballing ability.

McGrath would have got into St Mick's regardless of footballing ability so he is a bad example to use.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 10:28:03 AM
SS2 you in your own very sad way of trying to undermine Mc Guckians contribution you inadvertly proved my point. Since M c Guckian came on the scene it  has coincided with an up turn in Derrys national successes. A senior All Ireland,  4 national league, 3 Ulster c'ships, 3 All Ireland minor, 9 Ulster minor c'ships and 1 u21 All Ireland, 5 Ulster u21 c'ships. He is one major factor, along with many others. I wont even start about the impact he has had on ballinderry underage success and how it has trans formed them into one of the big clubs in club football

The one thing that is very noticable in all SS2 responses to most arguments his his never ending ability to never give people credit. A complete begrudger of the highest order.

Spirits contribution well, the less said the better, he's liable to try and hit you or worst still throw water at ya ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 10:52:47 AM
Give it up Max. SS2 wiped the floor with you. Your arguements are awash with inconsistencies and just don't hold water.  They make you look like your clubmate i.e wet behind the ears, and it's beginning to look like you've got water on the brain. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
For anyone to suggest that Mc Guckian has not had a massive contribution to Derry fortunes is either

a) knows nothing about Derry GAA
b) hates him.

Now which one is saffron sam or Spirit94

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 11:39:24 AM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
For anyone to suggest that Mc Guckian has not had a massive contribution to Derry fortunes is either

a) knows nothing about Derry GAA
b) hates him.

Now which one is saffron sam or Spirit94



The suggestion SJ (arrogantly potrayed as fact by MM) was that, only for Maghera and McCrory success, 93 would never have happened. An audacious statement which ignores so many other factors and personal inputs. McGuckian's contribution cannot and has not been questioned.  It has merely been pointed out, and rightly so, that it was his contribution combined with many other factors which culminated in the 93 success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 20, 2008, 11:51:45 AM
I would have to agree with Spirit  ::) ::)(dont worry spirit I cant believe it either) on this. Mc Guckian definately had an impact in the development of the players that passed through his regime and therefore was a factor in the 1993 success and many others, however there were also a multitude of other factors involved, E. Coleman, Sigerson experience, 89 minor win, Club scene in Derry being of very high standard and very competitive, and it the team was packed with natural ability complimented with a few tough nuts and the collective will to win. There are other major and minor factors that contributed to that teams success, Mc Guckian was def a factor but so were many other things.

Thats my tuppence worth anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the green man on November 20, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:48:24 AM
Also I did not interpet MM posts as suggesting ARROGANTLY that 'only for Maghera and Mc rory success 93 would never have happened'  




Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
Only for Maghera and Mac Rory cup football 93 would never have happened.  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
Agree with Spirit, If you read all the posts it seems to me that both he and MM are saying the same thing, but saying it in different ways. What spirit failed to recognise in his agreement with Saffron sam was how Saffron has little respect for Mc Guckian and sledged his teams. MM is correct in saying that he gives no credit.

Green man you have just cut one 12 word sentence out of an entire discussion to suit yourself. In the context of the thread of discussion both are saying the same thing. Sure I could cut a 10 word piece to counter your post, but that would be simple minded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 12:06:28 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:48:24 AM
I read the posts and have concluded that you have colluded with saffron sam to undermine Mc Guckians contributions. Did you properly read what saffron sam wrote. A sledging of Mc Guckians teams.
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 10:07:45 AM
Cheers SS2, you've saved me the bother. The most comprehensive dismantling of an opinion (or should that be fact :D :D) as I have seen on here.   Not that it was that difficult.

To arrogantly state that only for Maghera and McCrory success 93 would never have happened, when anyone with a braincell knows that it was the combination of a multitude of factors, indicates the level of footballing intelligence you're dealing with here.  :D :D

I have highlighted where you colluded with SS2 dismantling of Mc guckians pedigree and contribution to derry success.
Also I did not interpet MM posts as suggesting ARROGANTLY that 'only for Maghera and Mc rory success 93 would never have happened'  No doubt all the factors that you allude to are also crucial. But if Mc Guckian had not did what he did in Maghera, 93 IMO would not have happened.

Thankyou Sonny, for seeing right through SS2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 10:28:03 AM
SS2 you in your own very sad way of trying to undermine Mc Guckians contribution you inadvertly proved my point. Since M c Guckian came on the scene it  has coincided with an up turn in Derrys national successes. A senior All Ireland,  4 national league, 3 Ulster c'ships, 3 All Ireland minor, 9 Ulster minor c'ships and 1 u21 All Ireland, 5 Ulster u21 c'ships. He is one major factor, along with many others. I wont even start about the impact he has had on ballinderry underage success and how it has trans formed them into one of the big clubs in club football

I have proved no such thing, since your point can neither be proved nor disproved. Unless, of course, there is a parallel universe where McGuckin was never appointed to St. Pat's and Cork beat Dublin in the 1993 final. Until you can come up with any evidence suggesting such a universe exists, then this thread is all about opinions. My opinion is that McGuckin's contribution to the Derry success in '93 is being overstated, not least by yourself. This is regards to a general discussion as to whether or not Antrim senior county teams would improve if more Antrim schools took part in the MacRory. My opinion is that it wouldn't and I have based my opinion as much as possible on facts. You can argue what you want with statistics and I feel my point is valid based on the statistics both of us supplied. You feel the opposite is valid. Hence the point of discussion boards, but more posters (like I said from your own county) seem to think you are over-egging the pudding.

Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 10:28:03 AM
The one thing that is very noticable in all SS2 responses to most arguments his his never ending ability to never give people credit. A complete begrudger of the highest order.

I wouldn't call it begrudgery. I refuse to raise to deity anybody who rises above the mediocre. Too many people on this board and in the GAA in general will liberally throw terms like true great and but for him such and such would never have happened etc. about in general conversation. I don't. McGuckin's MacRory achievements are impressive, but his overall contribution to Derry's win in 93 isn't. That's not begrudgery, but like I said before you you keep firing out the insults when the fat's in the fire.

Quote from: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
For anyone to suggest that Mc Guckian has not had a massive contribution to Derry fortunes is either

a) knows nothing about Derry GAA
b) hates him.

Now which one is saffron sam or Spirit94

Have you been reading all this thread?

A worthwhile input there.  ::)

Interesting to note, that whilst being accused of having little respect for McGuckin's achievements (I have not said that anywhere), out of me and my accusers (Max and SJ) I am the only one with enough respect to consistently spell his name correctly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 12:06:28 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:48:24 AM
I read the posts and have concluded that you have colluded with saffron sam to undermine Mc Guckians contributions. Did you properly read what saffron sam wrote. A sledging of Mc Guckians teams.
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 10:07:45 AM
Cheers SS2, you've saved me the bother. The most comprehensive dismantling of an opinion (or should that be fact :D :D) as I have seen on here.   Not that it was that difficult.

To arrogantly state that only for Maghera and McCrory success 93 would never have happened, when anyone with a braincell knows that it was the combination of a multitude of factors, indicates the level of footballing intelligence you're dealing with here.  :D :D

I have highlighted where you colluded with SS2 dismantling of Mc guckians pedigree and contribution to derry success.
Also I did not interpet MM posts as suggesting ARROGANTLY that 'only for Maghera and Mc rory success 93 would never have happened'  No doubt all the factors that you allude to are also crucial. But if Mc Guckian had not did what he did in Maghera, 93 IMO would not have happened.

Thankyou Sonny, for seeing right through SS2

I simply used contemporary sources to dispute your 'high quality coaching' argument and to re-inforce my argument that MacRory Cup football is not about promoting what is best for the students playing on the teams. Now, if you like, I will list instances from many different MacRory teams and managers to back my point up.

You feel free to keep firing the insults.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 12:42:35 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 12:06:28 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on November 20, 2008, 11:48:24 AM
I read the posts and have concluded that you have colluded with saffron sam to undermine Mc Guckians contributions. Did you properly read what saffron sam wrote. A sledging of Mc Guckians teams.
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 10:07:45 AM
Cheers SS2, you've saved me the bother. The most comprehensive dismantling of an opinion (or should that be fact :D :D) as I have seen on here.   Not that it was that difficult.

To arrogantly state that only for Maghera and McCrory success 93 would never have happened, when anyone with a braincell knows that it was the combination of a multitude of factors, indicates the level of footballing intelligence you're dealing with here.  :D :D

I have highlighted where you colluded with SS2 dismantling of Mc guckians pedigree and contribution to derry success.
Also I did not interpet MM posts as suggesting ARROGANTLY that 'only for Maghera and Mc rory success 93 would never have happened'  No doubt all the factors that you allude to are also crucial. But if Mc Guckian had not did what he did in Maghera, 93 IMO would not have happened.

Thankyou Sonny, for seeing right through SS2

The thing is Max, everyone can see throw you.  You're as transparent as..............well water. :D :D :D :D

SJ, one question, what in your opinion had the biggest influence on the 93 success?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
SS2 you have just insulted Mc Guckians coaching methods, and then you have the face to repsond by saying 'feel free to keep firing the insults'  :o :o :o

Honestly I cant remember the last post I read from you, where you actually give someone credit.

Spirit WTF is 'everyone can see THROW you' ....where is SS2 when you need him to degrade another mans spelling :D

QuoteSJ, one question, what in your opinion had the biggest influence on the 93 success?
Cant believe you just did that...you..you..you....colluder :P :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 01:10:01 PM
Now you're resorting to form Max.  You're arguements are dead in the water :D :D so resort to insults.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the green man on November 20, 2008, 01:15:19 PM
Move it to the Derry Thread lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on November 20, 2008, 01:45:59 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 02:15:56 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
SS2 you have just insulted Mc Guckians coaching methods, and then you have the face to repsond by saying 'feel free to keep firing the insults'  :o :o :o

No, I am simply questioning your understanding of the term 'highly skilled coaches'. Not an insult, McGuckin's methods were obviously successful at MacRory level.

Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 20, 2008, 12:49:40 PM
Honestly I cant remember the last post I read from you, where you actually give someone credit.

Outside the current one, it was probably this one.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 12:21:38 PM
I wouldn't call it begrudgery. I refuse to raise to deity anybody who rises above the mediocre. Too many people on this board and in the GAA in general will liberally throw terms like true great and but for him such and such would never have happened etc. about in general conversation. I don't. McGuckin's MacRory achievements are impressive, but his overall contribution to Derry's win in 93 isn't. That's not begrudgery, but like I said before you you keep firing out the insults when the fat's in the fire.

Keep on trying to twist my words to suit your agenda.

Now, the current topic is "Would you agree that Antrim schools participating in the MacRory would improve the Antrim senior football team?".

If your answer is no, then we can stop this debate.

If your answer is yes, could you extrapolate that answer for me. I am yet to be convinced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: amigo on November 20, 2008, 04:28:01 PM

Bollix. Who did Peter Canavan play for? Or Brian Dooher? Or Kieran McGeeney? Or Kieran McKeever? Or Tony Scullion? Or Kevin McGourty? Or Johnny McBride? Or the entire free state?

[/quote]

SS2,
Just reading through the last few pages of stuff here! Are you serious putting Kevin McGourty, in the same sentence as most of the above named county greats!! The man is  a joke!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2008, 02:15:56 PM

If your answer is yes, could you extrapolate that answer for me. I am yet to be convinced.

You know better than any that GAA in Belfast is, and has been, under serious threat from a plethora of alternative activities, be it sporting (soccer esp) or glue-sniffing/corner-hanging/pastie-eating/shellsuit-wearing/playing for Lamh Dhearg.

I believe that a relatively successful MacRory side will offer players something to aspire to that wasn't previously there. Success breeds success and aspirations, and that can only be a good thing for one of the biggest Catholic boys' schools in the city. Something I've always detected form the city lads is an apathy towards county players, as if they are constant objects of derision. This mindset is fed by continual abject failure at senior county level. Again, it is my belief that a successful St. Mary's MacRory side will keep lads actively interested in the games who would be previously lost to GAA from the age of 14 onwards. From little acorns mighty oaks grow.

Secondly, the preparation needed to compete these days at the top level of MacRory is approaching phenomenal and will familiarise such players with the dedication needed. If you think that such pressure exerted on 16-18 olds is wrong, that's another argument. But it's here to stay, as it is at county minor, U21 and senior level. You will have issues of burn-out etc but that's the modern game. If future Antrim players are introduced to the physical and mental preparation needed to compete at a high level between the ages 17-23, then that will reap tangible rewards.

For those reasons, I think a successful St Mary's team will leave Antrim football in a much healthier state eventually.

But you won''t be convince such is your feckin twisted nature
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 20, 2008, 09:20:02 PM
I think you are maybe placing too much importance on it O Neill, the lads will only be at St Marys for 2 years playing MacRory Cup. If when they go back to their clubs the coaching levels are not of a high level the players will not "train on". Their futures will be shaped by their own choices and by the structures within their club. I could be wrong but an example i would use are the Galway minor hurlers. Galway hurling schools do not seem to figure on the national stage yet they continually churn out fantastic inter county minor teams each year. I would imagine because of the level of coaching within the clubs. I know there are probably examples to disprove this theory but thats my tuppence worth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 09:25:01 PM
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you claiming that St Mary's playing MacRory Cup football and being relatively successful at it would have no impact on football in Antrim and in the development of their young footballers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 20, 2008, 09:29:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 09:25:01 PM
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you claiming that St Mary's playing MacRory Cup football and being relatively successful at it would have no impact on football in Antrim and in the development of their young footballers?

I am saying that i believe you are placing too much emphasis on the "impact" it will have on Antrim football. As i said in my previous post improved coaching standards in the players clubs will have a far greater, positive impact. Time will tell though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 09:34:01 PM
I'm saying it will have an impact. The original premise I made was that St Mary's doing well in the MacRory can only be a good thing for the county. Not sure where you are getting the size of the impact from. I'm not predicting Sam Maguires.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 20, 2008, 09:41:03 PM
but the successes of the past McRory teams have never made an impact on Antrim football . it's been the 50's since we last had Ulster success. there is no backing up your argument O'Neill. the only way Antrim will be good at Football is to have proper coaching from an early age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 10:00:59 PM
And Fermanagh have never won an Ulster title but Enniskillen have. But that's not seeing the pros of a group of 20-30 15-18 year olds preparing and competing with the majority of the best in the province, every year.

After St Mary's and St Malachy's won the MacRory in '70 and '71, and a Hogan Cup in '71, Antrim went on to win Ulster U21 titles in '74 and '75, losing the All-Ireland final in '74 after a replay. St John's of Belfast went on to appear in 3 Ulster Club finals before the end of the decade, appearing in an All-Ireland final in '78. I know the effect of the MacRory/Hogan Cup successes is hard to measure but I'd like to think that being the best in the province/country at college level rubbed off somewhat on those successes.

One other thing - when St Mary's won their last MacRory in 1986, Antrim went on to win their last Ulster U21 title in 1989.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 20, 2008, 10:25:23 PM
the st mals boys were boarders from derry ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 10:37:14 PM
For the record, the St Mary's team that won the Hogan in 1971 included:

Kevin O'Loan
Paul McKiernan
Gerry Cullen
Conor Smith
Gerry McHugh
Sean Sands
John McKiernan
Phil Shephard
Pat Armstrong
Frank Toman
Paul Growcott
Ciaran Donnelly
Canice Ward
Paul Haughey
Kevin Boylan
Stephen Prenter
Tom Breslin
Paddy O Neill
Peter Crummey


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 20, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
what were the clubs and how many played senior for antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 11:07:48 PM
The '86 panel:

Simon O Doherty, Enda McGurk, Rat Matthews, Patrick Nicholl, Joe Kennedy, Oliver McSravick, Terry Parks, Gerard Kelly, Thomas McNiece, Eamonn Blayney, John McCullough, Gerard Fitzsimmons, Seán Grieve, Ciarán Devlin, Emmett McCorry, Mark Keenan, Seán Connors, Conal Heatley (Capt), Liam Donnelly, Paul Fox, Patrick Weir, Patrick Maxwell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 20, 2008, 11:30:25 PM
Davitts men on that team some Johnnies men and a rossa man!!! who'd look in here ;) st pauls and a Ballycran man!!! not a galls man on it :( oh and a lavey man??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the green man on November 20, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 20, 2008, 11:30:25 PM
oh and a lavey man??

Come again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 21, 2008, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 11:07:48 PM
The '86 panel:

Simon O Doherty (St. Pauls), Enda McGurk (St. Johns), Rat Matthews (Sarsfields), Patrick Nicholl (Sarsfields), Joe Kennedy (Sarsfields), Oliver McSravick (Aghagallon), Terry Parks (Davitts), Gerard Kelly (Sarsfields), Thomas McNiece (Sarsfields), Eamonn Blayney (Ballycran), John McCullough (Sarsfields), Gerard Fitzsimmons (McCrackens), Seán Grieve (St. Johns), Ciarán Devlin (Glenavy), Emmett McCorry (Glenavy), Mark Keenan (Sarsfields), Seán Connors (St. Johns), Conal Heatley (Capt) (Sarsfields), Liam Donnelly (St. Johns), Paul Fox (Rossa), Patrick Weir (St. Johns), Patrick Maxwell (Lamh Dhearg).

You omitted Eamon Fitzpatrick (McCrackens)

All incorrectly spelt names courtesy of ONeill.

All clubs correct as of 9th March 1986.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 21, 2008, 10:08:39 AM
am no expert on Antrim football (or much else as we all know) but I think all this good work from schools etc will bear no long term fruit due to what , if I am informed correctly, is a poor set up in Antrim (in football).
Would agree that all this good work will benefit the young lads, but acorns wont grow on concrete.

The CB has to start putting down more a progressive environment to foster the winning mentality and integration between city/country lads from early years. Combined u12 sides upwards, annually reviewing the panel and adding newly emerging talent to these panels all the time. There are so many things that need tobe done from this early age.
If anything Delargy could help out with other strategic men in the football realm in Antrim as it takes a combination of ideas and idealists to come up with such a vision. Delargy has done a lot of work with underage in his own club and with Antrim so would be a good man to help create such an enviroment/academy- though he wont thank me for volunteering him in this capacity - as underage development is a thankless task and is bloody tough.
That would be my idea (no not simply appointing Delargy, it could be anyone but hes v qualified) but the creation of a youth setup and kind of 'academy'. Antrim have great talent right now, enough to compete well in Ulster (in comparison to recent years), but the attitude, mindset, ethos might not be there within the players to achieve what their talent shoul dbe capable of right now. A few years underage development and you will see a stronger foundation with possibly less talent achieving more (with a good manager).
imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 21, 2008, 10:40:39 AM
Are you suggesting that someone with vast knowledge and wide experience of , background and genuine interest in and undiluted passion for Antrim football should be appointed to look after the development of the game in Antrim?

There's absolutely no chance that Dr McSparran would even consider such a suggestion. Unless there is a figurehead in the county who can garner at least a modicum of respesct from the non-hurling fraternity, then Antrim football will go nowhere. Time for the good doctor either to serve the interests of all Gaels in the county equally or resign.

I note from Baker's interview, he was approached by a club. Does anyone have any idea which club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 21, 2008, 10:45:11 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 21, 2008, 10:40:39 AM
Are you suggesting that someone with vast knowledge and wide experience of , background and genuine interest in and undiluted passion for Antrim football should be appointed to look after the development of the game in Antrim?

There's absolutely no chance that Dr McSparran would even consider such a suggestion. Unless there is a figurehead in the county who can garner at least a modicum of respesct from the non-hurling fraternity, then Antrim football will go nowhere. Time for the good doctor either to serve the interests of all Gaels in the county equally or resign.

I note from Baker's interview, he was approached by a club. Does anyone have any idea which club?

I put this query to the official Antrim guestbook and got the usual "mind your own business, contemptible idiot" reply, i only asked because a few weeks ago the mods on the official site were quite explicit in saying a club did not nominate Bradley yet Bradley himself said a club did. The word around the campfire is Dr Dooms club, and a footballing powerhouse, Cushendun nominated him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2008, 10:52:24 AM
Back page of tomorrow's Irish News:

McSparran Lambastes Messageboard Idiots.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 21, 2008, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2008, 10:45:11 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 21, 2008, 10:40:39 AM
Are you suggesting that someone with vast knowledge and wide experience of , background and genuine interest in and undiluted passion for Antrim football should be appointed to look after the development of the game in Antrim?

There's absolutely no chance that Dr McSparran would even consider such a suggestion. Unless there is a figurehead in the county who can garner at least a modicum of respesct from the non-hurling fraternity, then Antrim football will go nowhere. Time for the good doctor either to serve the interests of all Gaels in the county equally or resign.

I note from Baker's interview, he was approached by a club. Does anyone have any idea which club?

I put this query to the official Antrim guestbook and got the usual "mind your own business, contemptible idiot" reply, i only asked because a few weeks ago the mods on the official site were quite explicit in saying a club did not nominate Bradley yet Bradley himself said a club did. The word around the campfire is Dr Dooms club, and a footballing powerhouse, Cushendun nominated him.

Sorry, my point is not who nominated him for the job, but which club decided it was worthwhile lifting the phone and ringing him to see if he was interested in the job.

There could be some logic (warped as it is) in the county board chairman, wearing his Cushendun club delegate's hat, nominating Bradley after the interviewing process.

It would be an absolute disgrace if a non-footballing club was actively targetting individuals for the position of Antrim football manager. I don't know if this was the case. Surely, if there is nothing to hide and to stop contemptible, anonymous lunatics, conspiracy theorists and rumour mongers like myself, a member of the club that originally approached The Baker or a member of the county board should be prepared to name the club involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 21, 2008, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 21, 2008, 10:40:39 AM
Are you suggesting that someone with vast knowledge and wide experience of , background and genuine interest in and undiluted passion for Antrim football should be appointed to look after the development of the game in Antrim?There's absolutely no chance that Dr McSparran would even consider such a suggestion. Unless there is a figurehead in the county who can garner at least a modicum of respesct from the non-hurling fraternity, then Antrim football will go nowhere. Time for the good doctor either to serve the interests of all Gaels in the county equally or resign.

I note from Baker's interview, he was approached by a club. Does anyone have any idea which club?
yep
I knew it was too simplistic to ever be a real consideration....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2008, 02:08:54 PM
What is the story with the leagues now?

I have heard the cut off date is the 23rd - does this mean that by end of day sunday we know who's relegated or has there been any extension?

Could the county finalists go down?? Doesn't look good for them and should be a good match between them and st johns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 21, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
bottom four, Gorts down so between the Johnnies Rasharkin and Lamhs. Rasharkin have two games they play Sat away to Cargin who need to win it for the league, then they are away to us on the sunday

the Jonnies are at home against Lamhs on the sunday, if they win and Rasharkin win one game then the Johnnies are down. cant see anything other than a Johnnies win >:( and Lamhs to go down ;D rashakin to lose both games and Cargin to win the league (as they always do :P)

whack for the diddle on sunday night at Corrigan, oops i mean Casement where they only drink


St. Johns        17 7 9 1 189 216 -27      15
Rasharkin        16 6 8 2 170 197 -27       14
Lamh Dhearg   17 6 9 2 186 224 -38       14
Gort Na Mona  17 3 13 1 179 229 -50      7

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 21, 2008, 03:12:25 PM
st galls will not have a chance like it again to let lamhs, who tried to stir it with them in county final,
or johnnies, who tries to bully them last week, get relegated.

another conspiracy theory!


no matter what way results go on saturday, lamhs & johnnies match is a must win for both.
might be ugly!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 21, 2008, 03:20:19 PM
as long as Rasharkin stay up, and one of the other two rubbish teams go down. heart says Johnnies (after their carry on last week, pure mindless. was embbarrased for them) but my head says that Lamhs will be forced into division 2 football division 3 hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on November 21, 2008, 04:35:35 PM
culchy1 could be big wkd in rasharkin when div 4 team win league and seniors stay up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 21, 2008, 05:02:17 PM
Someone told me it was Cargin that nominated Bradley...though I am not believeing anything unless verified by 2 independent sources in this day and age!
Just thought I'd say.

Good luck to him either way. He's there SS2 whether you like it or not so we might as well get behind him.
F*ck the bedgrudgers big Bradley.

Interesting weekend ahead in Division 1. Good luck Culchy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 21, 2008, 05:03:40 PM
Predictions for what they are worth

St. Galls  Creggan Kickhams  St. Galls 22/11/2008 14:00 Walsh Gregory   Creggan
Cargin  Rasharkin  Cargin 22/11/2008 14:00 Dougan Gerard    Cargin
St. Johns  Lamh Dhearg  Corrigan Park 23/11/2008 14:00 Mullan Patrick   LD
St. Galls  Rasharkin  St. Galls 23/11/2008 14:00 Doone Raymond   St Galls
Gort Na Mona  Cargin  Gort Na Mona 23/11/2008 14:00 Toland, Brendan   Cargin

We'll see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: away on at wit ye on November 22, 2008, 10:28:52 AM
saffron sam, you make some very valid points most of the time, and i can see where you're coming from about the recent appointment of the new county football manager... but give it over about which club nominated the man. the fact is that he's there now and for once, ALL of us as a county should get behind him. i'm delighted to hear the St Gall's players will be returning to the squad, and also that Bradley has left the door open to Kevin McGourty. A fresh start for everyone.

now, the main issue of my post, was anyone at the senior football trials at jordanstown the other nite? i heard the trialists defeated the current panel.

who played well for the trialists? anyone look like they could step up and help antrim to a victory over Donegal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2008, 02:46:08 PM
2 posts. Both mentioning getting Kevin McGourty back. Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 22, 2008, 03:17:23 PM
You can see them coming a mile away on this site
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 22, 2008, 05:57:04 PM
anyone no who got the player of the yr awards last nite at the county dinner?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2008, 07:26:59 PM
went down to watch us v Creggan. hammered them. had have played like that we'd have beaten Gaels. how the other game go today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on November 23, 2008, 05:55:39 PM
Rasharkin beat Galls by 3 and stay up. The got St Galls at the best possible time. Lamb Dhearg make the trip to division 2. Some poetic justice there after what happened in the Championship semi-final. Not even Padraig Mullan could save them today although he did play about 5 minutes injury time.

I wonder will there be a re-structuring of the league, which normally happens when a big team gets relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 23, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
our boys turned up for a fixture, we gave Rasharkin 3 up and they went on to score an OG to level it, was a funny goal.

headed up to watch Johnnies v Lamhs poor enough encounter, big crowd up to watch Lamhs become a jubior club, div 3 hurling div 2 football!!!!  ah well always next year to regroup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on November 23, 2008, 06:31:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 23, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
our boys turned up for a fixture, we gave Rasharkin 3 up and they went on to score an OG to level it, was a funny goal.

headed up to watch Johnnies v Lamhs poor enough encounter, big crowd up to watch Lamhs become a jubior club, div 3 hurling div 2 football!!!!  ah well always next year to regroup

I got the feeling there won't be many tears shed around Milltown at Lamh Dhearg's demise!

Were they up to a lot of dirty tricks at the county final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on November 23, 2008, 06:34:33 PM
how did st agnes and rasharkin div 4 finish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on November 23, 2008, 06:37:12 PM
Quote from: hightower on November 23, 2008, 06:34:33 PM
how did st agnes and rasharkin div 4 finish


St Agnes win the division by a point. Both teams go up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on November 23, 2008, 06:48:31 PM
cheers glf,did rasharkin not finish top?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on November 23, 2008, 06:58:02 PM
Quote from: hightower on November 23, 2008, 06:48:31 PM
cheers glf,did rasharkin not finish top?

Nah, they lost yesterday and the Aggies won today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 23, 2008, 07:05:36 PM
strange how a club gets to a county final and then is relegated at the end of the season. how do clubs get into that position?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2008, 08:54:13 PM
By being too reliant on a few of players who spent quite a lot of the season injured/away...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 24, 2008, 08:54:15 AM
So for 2009 the leagues are going to be as follows?

DIV 1

Cargin
St. Gall's
St. Paul's
St. Brigid's
St. John's
Portglenone
Rasharkin
Creggan Kickhams
Moneyglass
Glenavy

DIV 2

Lamh Dhearg
Gort na Mona
Dunloy
St. Endas
Aghagallon
All Saints
Sarsfields
Rossa
Ahoghill
Tir na nOg

DIV 3

Davitts
Glenravel  :o
Ardoyne
Cargin 2
St. Teresa's
Aldergrove
St. Gall's 2
Mc Dermotts
St. Agnes'
Rasharkin 2

DIV 4

Gort na Mona 2
St. John's 2
St. Paul's 2
Portglenone 2
Lamh Dhearg 2
Eire Og
Cargin 3
St. Malachy's

(Not sure who gets promoted due to Div 5 & 6 being the same league - i think Ballycastle + another)

Will leave Div 5 & 6 for now!

Can see Glenavy and possible M'glass coming back down to Div 2 after a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 24, 2008, 09:55:57 AM
what a weekend!!

going into the weekend hadnt high hopes, but hoped we could manage somehow to stay up
& we did it just about.
talk about doing it the hard way!
as milltown said, took the lead only for one of our own boys to score an og! ???
with cargin already crowned league champs, yet again, having beat us the previous day, st galls didnt seem to mind if they won or not! ;)
im sure there has been no love lost over the years between them and lamhs, incidents such as a st galls man getting a hiding outside thompsons garage by a mob of lamhs after the county final a couple of years back.
then theres the sevens tournament in co down last year, lamhs wouldnt call off a league match the next day, which they won.
you can say what you want about the mcgourtys but their all welcome in rasharkin any time,even sean!! ;D
did kevin tell the baker his decision yet?
hope he does commit & plays championship, not like last year, where he left after a couple of league games.
great footballer & everybody knows antrim needs him as much as he needs them.

st johns deserved to stay after their performance yesterday, they went out did what they had to do.
rumours will surely resurface now about paddy cunningham heading for de la salle park.

in div 4 we fell into portglenones trap on saturday, not much football played.
even the managers were at it up the line!
ref threaten to walk, it was that bad.

fair play to st aggies, a good well disciplined side, but like ourselves will struggle, next year!




as the old saying goes, what goes round, comes round!
lamhs have got exactly what they deserved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Donagh on November 24, 2008, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 09:34:01 PM
I'm saying it will have an impact. The original premise I made was that St Mary's doing well in the MacRory can only be a good thing for the county. Not sure where you are getting the size of the impact from. I'm not predicting Sam Maguires.

The current St Mary's team doing well in the MacRory will do nothing for Antrim football as there's nothing coming behind it. The current team is the result of a good five or six years training preparation but the school and county Board have done nothing to ensure that the reward from the efforts and investments of a few individuals will continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 24, 2008, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: Donagh on November 24, 2008, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 20, 2008, 09:34:01 PM
I'm saying it will have an impact. The original premise I made was that St Mary's doing well in the MacRory can only be a good thing for the county. Not sure where you are getting the size of the impact from. I'm not predicting Sam Maguires.

The current St Mary's team doing well in the MacRory will do nothing for Antrim football as there's nothing coming behind it. The current team is the result of a good five or six years training preparation but the school and county Board have done nothing to ensure than reward from the efforts and investments of a few individuals will continue.

is a result of all the best teams being in the other section and the knock out stage s will bear this theory out. But still its good to see St Marys doing well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2008, 12:15:15 PM
Good one Max.

At the end of the day Culchy league positions are the result of a whole season so lamh dhearg can blame no-one but themselves!

Will be interesting next season now as I'd expect there to be nothing between you boys and Glenavy / Moneyglass. St Johns also seem to be moving downwards so should be interesting at the bottom end of division 1 anyway. The top would be the same as I'd expect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2008, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Donagh on November 24, 2008, 11:23:48 AM

The current St Mary's team doing well in the MacRory will do nothing for Antrim football as there's nothing coming behind it. The current team is the result of a good five or six years training preparation but the school and county Board have done nothing to ensure that the reward from the efforts and investments of a few individuals will continue.

All true, but the Big Bang needs to start somewhere and perhaps this could be a timely jolt for the CB that there actually is young talent in the county.
It's unlikely St. Mary's will progress beyond the quarters but with some big names falling by the wayside, it's a real boost for football in the school. Busting a gut to hold Omagh to at least a draw and making the Casement final would be some achievement.  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 24, 2008, 06:21:45 PM
while I certainly think that better development will result in better players and a better standard of player in a squad will be be most helpful in getting towards a winning team
however, the most skilful tyrone teams were annually disasterous at senior level (aprart from possibly in the ulster lottery of a championship)
only since mickey harte has come along has tyrone been a senior success
imo he has less talent at his disposal than teams under ball , mcrrory and mckenna - imo obv

so while you have to have talent at your disposal - and a mixture of talent at that, you still need the acumen to put it all together, and Antrim could develop underage talent to beat the band but never realise true and full potential ....but it certainly is a step in the right direction, but still no guarantee of success.
Schools results are a bit of a red herring imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on November 24, 2008, 10:40:40 PM
just to put this point accross...  there is no thing between st galls and lamh dhearg... there are a few individuals who take things off the field...  just because one team employs a rough approach to a game(county final) dosnt make it a feud...  its called wanting to win...  i myself am a lamh dhearg clubman and am personally very good friends with the majority of the senior team of st galls and have the pleasure of playing on the same teams as alot of them.....i would put "milltown row" as one of those sad individuals who like to bring things off the fied...  as for rasharkin id congratualte you on escaping relegation...  and cargin on winning the league..  this is a low point for our club and it will be a tough year ahead with alot of questions asked as to why this happened....but ... we will be back in div one in a years time.. i guarantee it!!! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 25, 2008, 10:22:41 AM
Firehill - I'd remove your personal email address from your profile. A friend from "Shaws Road" has been the subject of abuse since leaving his.

What you have said deserves respect (if not for the Milltwon Row jibe and winning the record of most full stops in a post).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 25, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
firehill, maybe you are the decent soul up on hannahstown, your bound to be very lonely.

lamhs take a rough approach in every game they play.
by taking a rough approach, does this mean punching men off the ball, trying to intimidate them & so on.
its called football, why not try playing it from time to time, might win more matches.
im sure theres a boxing club somewhere in west belfast, get some of your men to join it!!

i beg to differ about yous getting on with st galls, not one of them will be sad to see yous stay in division 2 for the long term
& they arent alone either.

as i said before what goes round comes round, learnt that from karate kid the movie!!! ;D ;D



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on November 25, 2008, 11:49:20 AM
i wasnt too worried about my info being known.. but wouldn want it to become a personal thing.. just on this thing and sick of people labling the club over a few individuals!!! i dont condone violance but i think culshie1 is being a bit over exaggerated on the boxing stuff.  if you go to almost any club game in tyrone, cavan, monaghan i think youll see a fair amount of late tackles off the ball stuff going on!  im one for a good debate but just not gonna stand and watch people ridicule not only personal friends but lifelong friends on here. its part of the reason OUR county will not make progress for a while at least, and also sad thing because there are alot of talented footballers to make something happen..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 25, 2008, 01:13:43 PM
look firehill, i have seen it first hand so i know what goes on.
im not naming anyone, im not being personal here.

the thing that gets me is that yous arent a bad footballing team, when yous want to.
all i was saying is try playing abit more football and cut out the crap.

fair play to ye for standing up for your club, id do the same,
but as they say if you throw enough muck, it will eventually stick.
thats where im coming from, i've seen it too many times for it just to be a coincidence.

good luck in division 2 next year, if yous stick to the football, yous will win it with ease.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on November 25, 2008, 04:07:29 PM
culshie1 ... i understand where your coming from, and fairly entitled to your opinion. i know were no angels and im not one myself and prob never will be. however i have been the subject of a few hidngs myself on a pitch but i dont have any animosity towards a particular club.. just individuals (and referees).  when you label a club then you include everyone involved!!! 

anyway....  anyone know what this bradley fella is like??? any good ??? i heard hes a bit of a nut.. but hes an outsider and that cant be a bad thing. any word on who got selected at the trials????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2008, 04:31:51 PM
 :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on November 25, 2008, 04:33:21 PM
i hear violins playing!! :D

as i said what goes around comes around.
firehill, we'll leave it at that.

read earlier about the two mcgourty's not committing to county panel.
big disappointment :-\
had hoped everyone would commit for the year, but not to be.


heard by all accounts with baker, it his way or no way.
takes no crap, work rate is everything with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2008, 05:27:28 PM
Any truth that a major name in the Antrim team (though maybe only togs out sometimes) may be transfering to the Mourne County?

Only askin like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 25, 2008, 05:36:56 PM
Presume these are the McGourty runours?
Kevin and CJ are both quoted in the Irish Star today saying they have no desire to play for Antrim this year at all. Kevin says he has already even told St Gall's that he can no longer give anything to senior football in Antrim at club level. Something like "It's time to focus on education and life, people younger than me have seen the world..blah, blah, needs to dedicate himself to othger things"
CJ says he's focusing solely on the Sigerson Cup with St Mary's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2008, 05:39:46 PM
old news lads. think this firehill guy has it in for "sad individuals" what problems do you have with me? i'm a nice guy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 25, 2008, 05:41:46 PM
All sounds a bit self important.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2008, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 25, 2008, 05:36:56 PM
Presume these are the McGourty runours?
Kevin and CJ are both quoted in the Irish Star today saying they have no desire to play for Antrim this year at all.

Really? I read earlier in the year where CJ said there was no better feeling than pulling on the Antrim geansai for a Championship match.

Honestly, these St Gall's lads a ruining the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 25, 2008, 06:56:41 PM
Should have been cork hurlers to be honest. Then everyone'd be happy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 25, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
CJ: "I won't be going back to play for Antrim next season. I had a brief conversation with the new manager but I have said that I want to concentrate on winning the Sigerson Cup with St Mary's. Last year I got two weeks to train with St Mary's and it wasn't enough. This is my last year at college and my last chance to win a Sigerson so I want to make the most of it without any distraction".
Kevin: "I intend to live a little without the demands from the highest level of Gaelic games.I am an unemployed graduate, I can't buy a job at the moment and I have had to return to study..I cannot afford to give any more of my time to train and play for Antrim. On top of that I simply do not have the desire to play for the county. I have no desire to play any football at this time. I have explained to St Gall's that I will not be fully committed next season."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 25, 2008, 07:34:18 PM
Take that down ye clown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2008, 07:42:23 PM
trouble ahead, your not the sharpest tool in the box. my 5 year old would have been able to work out from my previous post who i am. but sure you work away. i've no problems

oh we've lost the referee  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on November 25, 2008, 09:06:33 PM
i have to side with cj and kevin..... they want to do other things and fair play... they also take an aweful lot of abuse and i can see why kevin dosnt want to play!  two losses to the county set up but someone else will get use of their talents somewhere in the world!!! possibly soccer for cj too with donegal celtic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 25, 2008, 09:23:29 PM
I know the Mc Gourtys love a drama and a bit of air time but would the Sigerson not be finished by St Patricks Day (providing St Marys got to a final) and did Paddy Cunningham not play for Antrim and win a Sigerson for the Poly? Would "Shaws Road" not be better advised telling us when he does want to play for Antrim as opposed to this annual "will he wont he" charade.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: screenmachine on November 25, 2008, 10:10:37 PM
hopefully thats the end of the mcgourty charade for another year.  I'd say the baker will wrap up this episode pretty sharply, which is the correct way to go.  Invite them to a few trial games next year and if they refuse, so be it.  Anyone would give their left arm for a run at county football and to be more worried about Sigerson football, is in reality a cheap cop out.  In fairness if Kevin is now more focussed in finding a career, thats fair enough, the man has to work but as long as it doesn't drag on and its a weekly charade, especially in his column, 'The man who doesn't hold back'!  I still cringe every time I see it!
In fairness Antrim could really be doing with everyone throwin their lot behind a new fresh approach, but sure if you'd rather have a bit of media attention so be it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 25, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Anyone know when the Dr McKenna panel is to be named?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Frankie Boy on November 25, 2008, 10:21:17 PM
A good Antrim footballer, an honest politician and Santa Claus were walking down the street when, at the same time, all 3 spotted a twenty pound note. Who picked it up?

Santa. The other two don't exist. LOL. Only joking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 25, 2008, 10:26:38 PM
The man who doesn't hold back now should.

For the good of Antrim please slip into anonymity for a year and leave Antrim and St Galls to try and do what they do best.
You chose to be that undergraduate for so many years and chose to take your student union post so good luck for the next step finding a job etc but please for the good of Antrim just slip into the night.

Always a big believer that talent shouldn't be wasted. He has it...like Winker Watson he has it but if the choses to pass up what alot of people would as said give their right arm to have and be able to do then have the decency to not rub their and the players who will line out's noses in it.


McKenna panel bound to be named soon so that the players can step up their training/get programmes for the gym.
First game early January I think.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 26, 2008, 06:24:26 PM

Name : Loyal Antrim fan
26 November 2008
Colleague called me yesterday to check out that other board that only takes cheap shots at our loyal county servants, i was shocked and disgusted to witness a ???? Player/Coach named as one of the loyal posters to this site. ???? should have more sense, the article was then withdrawn.This gentleman is an active referee in the county, and then posted his admittance to being himself after against the poster who named him. That Board has now withdrawn the posting that named this person, can i ask can the county not do anything about this board and its continual cheap shots at Players officals referees and men and women that commit their time for the good of Antrim Football&Hurling.

Unfortunately we cant do anything about the rubbish that appears on these sites. And yes, someone in these positions ought to have more sense.


Who is this? What have i missed lads, MR is this directed at you by any chance? Looks like whistle blowers are about trying to sabotage the board members. Looking at the posting the county SS have now got some details to go on. Be careful out there lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 26, 2008, 06:57:15 PM
ah well, i liked that refereeing. after this i wouldn't get a Ladies football match ;)

Davinci you'll have to do them for me ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 26, 2008, 07:19:52 PM
MR not a chance! Not finished just yet, still 1 maybe 2 years in the auld dog yet. Whats the mood in the club after your exit, mc Gourtys going mad are they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 26, 2008, 07:29:17 PM
"then posted his admittance to being himself"

What else is a man to do, i ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
Could some of these people who are so against the comments on this board not come on and have a rational debate about things? Everything has to resort down to personal attacks.

Go on begrudgers, stop the insults and have a rational debate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2008, 08:43:39 PM
That's very true Tommy. I actually think the likes of McSparran wouldn't have the knackers to come on here for the fear of being ripped apart, so he snipes from afar. Instead of crying to the media, debate the truth with the unwashed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 26, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
Don't expect it anytime soon

I take it we all know that those comments will have been posted by one of those two eejits who were banned a few weeks ago. Smarting still  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 26, 2008, 11:26:31 PM
all fun and games, they berate posters on this site for having views but when you have issues regarding club fixtures at this time of the year, they come back with (what they think) smart Alec responses which further annoy genuine posters concerned about club issues. Pot Kettle black...... their view is final and not open for debate. a certain dictator had those views ;)

Davinci:
yes lads are down after the Cavan game no doubt, even more so because GAELS GOT HAMMERED!! so they are all raring to go and ready for the first week in Jan to get back at it ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2008, 09:43:11 AM
CJ's not done with Saffrons Gaelic Games
By Brendan Crossan
27/11/08

ANTRIM ace CJ McGourty has dismissed speculation that he has turned his back on the Saffrons, while Rory Gallagher's comeback attempts with Fermanagh appear to have failed.

While his older brother, Kevin, declined an offer to return to the Antrim senior football squad under new boss Liam Bradley earlier this week, CJ insisted he will be wearing the county colours next season.

The younger McGourty, however, was angered by newspaper reports he would not be ending his self-imposed exile.

CJ, along with St Gall's team-mates Terry O'Neill, Sean Kelly and Aodhan Gallagher refused to participate in last season's Tommy Murphy Cup after Antrim exited the Ulster Championship to Cavan.

The precocious 20-year-old yesterday declared he will be back on the county stage, but has yet to decide codes.

Senior hurling boss Terence 'Sambo' McNaughton and Bradley have asked McGourty onto their respective panels in 2009.

"I was very annoyed to read somewhere that I would not be playing for Antrim again," said CJ. "That's not the case. I'm concentrating on St Mary's at the minute. I'll play McKenna Cup for St Mary's because that's the rule... 'Sambo' and Liam Bradley have been on the phone to me and I've said that I'd be taking a break from the county for the months of December and January, although there is not going to be any county

training with the new [November and December] ban in place."

He added: "I haven't decided what code I'll be playing next season, but I'll be playing for Antrim. I got a lot of phone calls and text messages criticising me for saying I wouldn't be back playing for Antrim. I've said before that there is no better feeling playing for Antrim in the Championship."

CJ was invited to a senior football trial last week, but informed the team's liaison officer he would be unable to attend.

"I'm sure if Liam Bradley read the same reports as I did he's probably forgotten about me already," said CJ.

In an attempt to defend his decision to step down from the Antrim football panel in the summer, the St Mary's student commented: "Every player puts on a GAA jersey for different reasons. People put it on to have a bit of craic and play for the club's reserves or Division Five.

Others play because they just love representing their club and want to win something and maybe play at the highest level, for your county or your country.

"People have to understand that it is an amateur organisation and people have different ambitions in life. I don't think Stephen O'Neill got as much stick for stepping down from the Tyrone team as the Antrim players did [in the summer].

Fermanagh's experienced playmaker Rory Gallagher has not been included in manager Malachy O'Rourke's provisional squad for 2009 after returning for trials.

The St Brigid's clubman had asked O'Rourke to play in two trial games and by all accounts performed well on both occasions under the floodlights at Brewster Park.

It was felt Gallagher would provide the Erne attack with a fulcrum and would cure the team's chronic free-taking problems.

Mark Little is another surprise omission, while Tom Brewster, impressive midfielder Paul Cosgrove of St Patrick's, Donagh and Mark Murphy are absentees due to respective travel plans in '09, although the latter is expected to return during the NFL campaign.

It is understood O'Rourke is hopeful that forwards James Connolly and Ryan Carson (both Newtownbutler) and Derrygonnelly's Paul Ward will make the breakthrough next season.

Professional soccer player Shane McCabe is contracted to Irish League club Glentoran and has plans to get married in June, which probably rules him out of the new season.

However, Ryan McCluskey, currently with Portadown, is expected to be back in county colours in the latter stages of the National League.

Ze Irish News
Title: hardstation is back......
Post by: milltown row on November 27, 2008, 10:26:57 PM
Name : hardstation26 November 2008I really must laugh at the irony of anonymous posters coming on to this internet site to give off about other anonymous posters on another internet site.

Firstly, if you don't like what is written on the other site, why on God's earth do you insist on going to that site?

Secondly, a few of the anonymous posters from this site have even gone to the trouble of creating an account, under a pseudonym, on the other site and have posted messages on it, complaining about the content.

I suppose some people just like to go out of their way to be offended.
Very sad really.

Laugh on, but none of us are so pathetic that we feel the need to respond to other forums and contrary to your's and other paranoid notions, none of us have ever felt the need to join this or any other forums to post anonymously. So, why then are you banned from a certain forum?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 27, 2008, 10:31:45 PM
Good lad Hardstation, fighting the fight from behind bars. What a shower of f**king wankers on that Antrim website, they are so far up their own arse and full of their own self importance it actually makes me smile...............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 27, 2008, 11:56:32 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 27, 2008, 10:26:57 PM

Laugh on, but none of us are so pathetic that we feel the need to respond to other forums and contrary to your's and other paranoid notions, none of us have ever felt the need to join this or any other forums to post anonymously. So, why then are you banned from a certain forum?

If no one from the county website feels the need to join such forums as this one, then how do they know a cartain Hardstation is banned?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2008, 09:43:54 AM
The admin is a contributor here surely, he just chooses not to contribute to this particular part of the site...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: away on at wit ye on November 28, 2008, 10:29:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
Could some of these people who are so against the comments on this board not come on and have a rational debate about things? Everything has to resort down to personal attacks.

Go on begrudgers, stop the insults and have a rational debate.
''

I agree.

Has the McKenna cup squad been finalised? Any views about the new faces in the panel? Any stand-out st lower division players involved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 28, 2008, 10:32:27 AM
Minder, catch yourself on, there,s no need for that language in your last posting, your just highlighting all the reasons for these people to continually have a pop at this board. This board has fragmented over the past few months, due to people signing up for the purpose of mixing it, getting banned and then posting on the county website against it. MR,s case is a perfect example and may potentially effect him within the county. some of us are rising to the bait and all it is doing is gradually helping to expose people who felt comfortable giving an informed and personal opinion on the county and what should be done to progress in Hurling and Football.

I for one although not a native, enjoyed comming on and sharing the banter, as of late the fun and enjoyment has gone, and i would,nt contribute as much now, this is exactly what the mixers are hoping to achieve, and MR was subjected to that recently.

Christ come on lads, get this forum back to what it should be, a bit of crac and banter for gaa fans. Not having a go Minder, but lets not lower the tone to the extent of your last posting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2008, 11:13:59 AM
I'll leave minder to stick up for himself

But your post is a bit rich coming from someone who actually encouraged these same boys

Quote from: davincicode on October 05, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
TheSkull, i do believe that the Assessor seems to be getting under your skin? Assessor what you say i must agree with to a large extent, however i feel that Ulster Council should take the lions share of the blame, for the state that Hurling is in. Hurling in Ulster is not very PC! When football pulls in on average 8 times the revenue then it becomes a simple question of economics!


Assessor, you have brought a bit of bite to this board, however i would like to see how well you are linked to what happens in Antrim, look at the football thread its dying on its feet.

A lot of lads/lassies post on this board, however i feel the majority take the AL la carte approach, how dirty do most of you get your hands and really get involved at grass root level? What have you done to effect change?

Also you joined this board two years ago and have posted 55 times, so it's not as if you've been "contributing" to the banter on an ongoing basis is it?

The other thing is re your comment about "MR being Exposed". Personally I could not give a flying fcuk if my identity eventually became known outside of this forum and neither should MR. What I say here, I'll say it outside of here and would have absolutely no issue with defending anything anybody has a problem with. It's not that big a deal having opinions and nobody should take this place as seriously as admin on the antrimgaa site does.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 28, 2008, 12:56:01 PM
Skull, unfortunately my job does not allow me the freedom to post on a more regular basis,unlike yourself and others, thats life as they say. I happen to life and work in Antrim, the job involves a lot of travelling and a lot of meetings but heh it pays well. I probably go to more games than a lot of contributors when opportunity arises.

These contributors seem to have been banned for use of foul language, aggressive behaviour etc etc and then i assume the moderaterator deals with them in the appropriate way, however i notice that he seems to be selective in his targets? Some other people seem to get away with it, which kind of makes you think??? Who are the moderators? If you don,t give a F*** then name yourself and stand proud. Looking back you did seem to have a problem with the ASSESSOR and he got the door so to speak.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 28, 2008, 01:23:17 PM
just home from another hard day at the office :P

anyway Davinci we all know why they got the bullet. i can safely say i know about 6 regular posters on this site, naming them will do what? make them proud?

the forums have become popular because GAELS from whatever background/club/county can voice their ideas/opinions/thoughts or just plane awl banter to other Gaels, some good some OK and some outrageous.

you Davinci know how hard it is to work with club and county officials regarding issues that you may feel aren't happening quick enough or at all. nothing on this site since i've been on has ever been adopted by county officials or clubs. as i see it there is no harm in this site. the Antrim own site is worse off for the rubbish that posters put on, the hogan stand is also rubbish but i've yet to see the ASSESSOR OR CHARLATAN having personal attacks at contributors there. as for wetether "i'll go far in Antrim" well i'll still be plugging away at what i do.

people come and go. committees change and Antrim will still be playing Hurling and Football. whats posted here wont make any difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 28, 2008, 01:30:10 PM
To true MR, well said, i hope it does,nt rebound on you. "Lamb to the Slaughter", and all that. Watch your back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2008, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: davincicode on November 28, 2008, 12:56:01 PM
Skull, unfortunately my job does not allow me the freedom to post on a more regular basis,unlike yourself and others, thats life as they say. I happen to life and work in Antrim, the job involves a lot of travelling and a lot of meetings but heh it pays well. I probably go to more games than a lot of contributors when opportunity arises.

These contributors seem to have been banned for use of foul language, aggressive behaviour etc etc and then i assume the moderaterator deals with them in the appropriate way, however i notice that he seems to be selective in his targets? Some other people seem to get away with it, which kind of makes you think??? Who are the moderators? If you don,t give a F*** then name yourself and stand proud. Looking back you did seem to have a problem with the ASSESSOR and he got the door so to speak.

Jesus it doesn't take much to rattle your cage  :o
I was simply pointing out to you aspects of your post which didn't tie up/lacked consistency. You acknowledge the board suffered as a results of boys like Assessor coming on and ranting/attacking rather than debating (which yes I and the vast majoroty of people who contribute  ;) did have a problem with) , but you were/are?? one of those people who welcomed his "style" (or lack of style) at the time. You can't have it both ways?
My point about you "contributing" was simply factual based on 2-3 posts per mth average which I don't believe constitutes "really contributing" to the converstaion flow of the board. It was not in any way an attack.
My statement about not worrying if my cover is blown again is simply stating that what I say hear does not contradict what I believe, so it does not concern me. But sometimes opinions hidden behind the cloak of anonymity/views of the masses is not a bad thing, so if you don't mind I'd rather not shout from the rooftops just yet.  

If you can point out to me how the mods have been selective in their targets I'll fight with you to ensure you get the consistency you believe is not there at present. What do you say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 28, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
Skull, at the time it seemed like a bit of Crack, yes they went to far very quickly, it was different and truth be told we have all egged on people in a lifetime who have been a bit of a fool! The job pulls me all over Europe at times, i don,t get the chance as i said, however for this specific reason i feel that i cannot contribute to extent of you local lads, after all I'm from the capital city, its not my place so to speak, blow in and all that. Altough i think MR does,nt believe me ;)

We all feel comfortable with the board, i just feel that regular contributors took the bait, and MR could suffer because of this. We have a bit of crack as i said, but recently i feel that some contributors have gone too far, which attracts the head bangers, everyone gets involved the stakes rise and one balloon focuses on MR and now his county officials probably know who he is, and his contributions in the future to antrim may suffer in additional roles that he is taking on i.e. Refereeing.

Your County Chairman is a very resourceful man, as are some of his officers. I think senior members of the board like yourself MR, Minder do have have a responsibility to try to keep it real as the say and not get drawn in, as minder seems to have been this morning!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 28, 2008, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: davincicode on November 28, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
Skull, at the time it seemed like a bit of Crack, yes they went to far very quickly, it was different and truth be told we have all egged on people in a lifetime who have been a bit of a fool! The job pulls me all over Europe at times, i don,t get the chance as i said, however for this specific reason i feel that i cannot contribute to extent of you local lads, after all I'm from the capital city, its not my place so to speak, blow in and all that. Altough i think MR does,nt believe me ;)

We all feel comfortable with the board, i just feel that regular contributors took the bait, and MR could suffer because of this. We have a bit of crack as i said, but recently i feel that some contributors have gone too far, which attracts the head bangers, everyone gets involved the stakes rise and one balloon focuses on MR and now his county officials probably know who he is, and his contributions in the future to antrim may suffer in additional roles that he is taking on i.e. Refereeing.

Your County Chairman is a very resourceful man, as are some of his officers. I think senior members of the board like yourself MR, Minder do have have a responsibility to try to keep it real as the say and not get drawn in, as minder seems to have been this morning!

The boards a fantasy really, they need to chill. If I were not to referee again because of things I haven't said then their loss, I've plenty of things to get on with within my club, still playing, coaching and managing the reserves!!!! i've no aspirations to become Dickie Murphy

As for the chairman being resourceful??? Can I be shot because of my comments about Gaa matters? I'll get cancer if I were to stand beside him, maybe that's his plan. If county officials are getting their knickers in a twist over posts on this site then they have far too much team on their hands. Must have been the photo of the Awards night I put in that rattled someone or the post about Lamhs becoming a junior club. Will have to watch myself outside Thompson's.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2008, 04:33:26 PM
Well your second last post shows it doesn't take much to get you riled either davinci. Imagine having to deal with the bile that Assessor et al were spewing.

We can all be caught with a short fuse from time to time  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 28, 2008, 05:16:46 PM
Administrator, in response to Noamh Gall, i would be quite confident that i am contributing more to antrim, now that i know who you are, and the club that you are a member of. ????? The County officers are right, this board should be sanctioned immediatly, taking free shots, now some of us know who you really are! You and other members of this board should apologise to all the people that you have offended and wrap it up!

this guy should get on CSI, I'm struggling to find out this club "Noamh Gall" 

the hardstation was on again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2008, 05:34:02 PM
I once posted on there that they should vet the posts. That crap shouldn't be allowed.

You and skull seem to have ruffled some feathers though milltown - it's quite amusing. I wonder what age these people are replying - anything from 12 - 17 / 18 I'd guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 28, 2008, 08:02:54 PM
Personally, I have to say that I read the stuff on this site because I'm more interested in a good debate about Antrim GAA matters in general & don't really give a toss about individuals / personalities as such. If I disagree with someone, that's my problem, but they have a right to express a view, as long as they do it in a constructive manner. This Antrim thread is becoming clogged up with who said what when about whom & it's taking away from the obvious concerns that people have about key issues & the feeling that they don't really have an ability to influence opinion elsewhere. No doubt people more qualified than me can make wiser comments & I'll look forward to reading that, w/o having to wade through a load of personalised stuff. Just my opinion.........now fears for his future lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 01, 2008, 05:20:19 PM
yous are lucky that theres no division 5 in the intercounty NFL!
>:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 01, 2008, 06:02:58 PM
if there was, we'd win it ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 02, 2008, 01:16:39 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 01, 2008, 06:02:58 PM
if there was, we'd win it ;)
well you would in 2010 !  ;)

are the gestapo now after me too ?
:o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 02, 2008, 02:16:09 PM
Just read St John's yearbook produced by Raph Gatt for their AGM last weekend. Its well worth lookin at and the amount of club games(all levels) Raph attends and work he puts in is unreal--many people in many clubs do such work but in many clubs its too few people who carry this workload.

Its interesting that Raph talks about the apathy that has led to the club not being able to field a 2nd team despite the team being in Div 3--a few years ago the Johnnies reserves were at the top of Div 2 and pushing for promotion to Div 1

Johnnies juvenile teams seem to be going well but their senior team when i saw them this year had too many slabbers--boys moaning at each other and referees, hittin dirty slaps--its sad to think that at the start of the decade they had a proper hard but fair team and that now its the opposite

They were lucky to stay up but now might turn the corner and rise again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on December 02, 2008, 02:19:12 PM
is there a guy Ciaran Anderson that still plays for st Johns? Would have been a minor in the late 90's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 02, 2008, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2008, 02:16:09 PM
Just read St John's yearbook produced by Raph Gatt for their AGM last weekend. Its well worth lookin at and the amount of club games(all levels) Raph attends and work he puts in is unreal--many people in many clubs do such work but in many clubs its too few people who carry this workload.

Its interesting that Raph talks about the apathy that has led to the club not being able to field a 2nd team despite the team being in Div 3--a few years ago the Johnnies reserves were at the top of Div 2 and pushing for promotion to Div 1

Johnnies juvenile teams seem to be going well but their senior team when i saw them this year had too many slabbers--boys moaning at each other and referees, hittin dirty slaps--its sad to think that at the start of the decade they had a proper hard but fair team and that now its the opposite

They were lucky to stay up but now might turn the corner and rise again

You're on the wind up. Raph Gatt, is that a real name?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 02, 2008, 03:35:52 PM
Antrims 2009 Mc Kenna Cup Panel includes 12 players who came through the recent trials,34 players are currentyly in the panel, 4 of whom will be on duty with their respective universitys.


David Mc Alernon Aghagallon
Neil O Connell Ahoghill
Donal Graham Ahoghill
Tony Scullion Cargin
Kieron Close Cargin
Michael Mc Cann Cargin
Thomas Mc Cann Cargin
Kevin O Boyle Cargin
Conor Creaney Glenavey
Paul Conlon Gortnamona
John Finucane Lamh Dhearg
Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Paddy Carey Portglenone
Kevin Mc Quillan Portglenone
Martin Mc Carry Portglenone
Gerard Mc Aleese Portglenone
Benny Hasson Rasharkin
Darragh Edwards St Brigids
Conor Maxwell St Endas
Damien Gault St Endas
Andy Mc Lean St Galls
Colin Brady St Galls
Adian Gallagher St Galls
Aaron Douglas St Johns
Kevin Mc Glinchey St Johns
Sean Mc Greevey St Pauls
Liam Carlin St Pauls
Conor Mc Goldrick St Teresas
Michael Mc Gill Tir Na Nog

James Loughrey Queens St Brigids
Justin Crozier Queens Cargin
Sean Burke Queens St Galls
Michael Pollock   St Marys Gort na Mona


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: away on at wit ye on December 02, 2008, 03:38:08 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 02, 2008, 02:29:57 PM


You're on the wind up. Raph Gatt, is that a real name?

Raph Gatt fegs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 02, 2008, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 02, 2008, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2008, 02:16:09 PM
Just read St John's yearbook produced by Raph Gatt for their AGM last weekend. Its well worth lookin at and the amount of club games(all levels) Raph attends and work he puts in is unreal--many people in many clubs do such work but in many clubs its too few people who carry this workload.

Its interesting that Raph talks about the apathy that has led to the club not being able to field a 2nd team despite the team being in Div 3--a few years ago the Johnnies reserves were at the top of Div 2 and pushing for promotion to Div 1

Johnnies juvenile teams seem to be going well but their senior team when i saw them this year had too many slabbers--boys moaning at each other and referees, hittin dirty slaps--its sad to think that at the start of the decade they had a proper hard but fair team and that now its the opposite

They were lucky to stay up but now might turn the corner and rise again

You're on the wind up. Raph Gatt, is that a real name?

yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 02, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
Quote from: toiletroller on December 02, 2008, 02:19:12 PM
is there a guy Ciaran Anderson that still plays for st Johns? Would have been a minor in the late 90's?


na, Aldo hasnt played the last few years--would be 27 and has been on the county panel in past--shows the problems in St John's that players such as him arnt/dont want to play for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2008, 07:45:34 PM
Some interesting newcomers in Bakers squad. Great to see the return of Davy Mc Alernon, liked what I saw of Conor Creaney and Darragh Edwards the couple of times I saw them in action. Big Mc Glinch will go very close as well. Four good additions. Conor Mc Goldrick would be a better age to do himself justice now as well. A fit Paddy Carey would be a real option at full back, a position we have had trouble filling since Martin Mulholland.

Would expect to see all/most of these six to do themselves justice. Good to see their inclusion.

The important thing now is to create a proper competitive environment for a first fifteen jersey - where it becomes the most valued jersey that player will wear. No more going through the motions. Bradley will know this is his priority, and hopefully he will succeed.

Sean Kelly a very obvious absentee, whats the crack there? Niblock out injured and no doubt CJ back in after Sigerson. Also, has big Joe called it a day? No Tony Convery or Mark Dougan either - surely they are in best 34 in the county!

Personally I would have worked hard to include Brendan Herron, and Peadar Mc Keever another good enough for the step up. Did Conall Kelly attend trials?

All in all, a better type of player emerging in Antrim than has been the case for many years. Lets get behind them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
Who's Kevin McQuillan from Portglenone?

Does he not play for Dunloy or has he moved?

Not familiar with Creaney,Maxwell or the two Ahoghill boys but I think McAlearnon is a good addition.

What position is Douglas? The name rings a bell.

Good spread of clubs there. Good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 02, 2008, 08:44:24 PM
Sean Kelly not playing? I'd said that before the squad was announced, CJ wont be playing also I'd say, just a hunch Kevin ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 02, 2008, 09:57:57 PM
dara edwards could do a job..only this time last year he was trying out for Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: sail_in on December 03, 2008, 08:17:51 AM
QuoteNot familiar with Creaney,Maxwell or the two Ahoghill boys but I think McAlearnon is a good addition.

I'll only comment on the 2 Ahoghill lads:

Donal Graham - certainly won't be out of his depth at this level.  The only thing that will go against him is the fact that he's a left-footed corner forward and you could argue that even with the county the state it is, that this is one area in which we're not lacking.  Still, it's another option.

Neil O'Connell - plays midfield for Ahoghill (was still under 21 in 2008) and he's a big, strong lad.  Great fielder of the ball - it'll be a big step up from Antim Division 3 to Inter-County though!

Also, I stand to be corrected on this, but I think Michael Magill has played his last game round these parts for a good while.  He's working in London now and Randalstown were flying him back for their last few games this year.  Ditto Aidan Savage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2008, 08:44:37 AM
Whats the word with big Joe, Convery and Dougan. Just not make it, or what?

Sean Kelly the obvious blot on the landscape!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2008, 09:59:38 AM
Bannside does Kevin McQuillan play for you boys?

Is he formerly of Dunloy around the 21 or so mark?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 03, 2008, 12:33:57 PM
He isnt formerly of Dunloy, he is still playing for them.
Was out injured for most of last yeat, would need some serious physical conditioning if he is going to make the grade at this level, though a good footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on December 03, 2008, 01:27:04 PM
Convery retired from county football and Joe from football completely I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 03, 2008, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on December 02, 2008, 03:35:52 PM
Antrims 2009 Mc Kenna Cup Panel includes 12 players who came through the recent trials,34 players are currentyly in the panel, 4 of whom will be on duty with their respective universitys.


David Mc Alernon Aghagallon
Neil O Connell Ahoghill
Donal Graham Ahoghill
Tony Scullion Cargin
Kieron Close Cargin
Michael Mc Cann Cargin
Thomas Mc Cann Cargin
Kevin O Boyle Cargin
Conor Creaney Glenavey
Paul Conlon Gortnamona
John Finucane Lamh Dhearg
Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Paddy Carey Portglenone
Kevin Mc Quillan Portglenone
Martin Mc Carry Portglenone
Gerard Mc Aleese Portglenone
Benny Hasson Rasharkin
Darragh Edwards St Brigids
Conor Maxwell St Endas
Damien Gault St Endas
Andy Mc Lean St Galls
Colin Brady St Galls
Adian Gallagher St Galls
Aaron Douglas St Johns
Kevin Mc Glinchey St Johns
Sean Mc Greevey St Pauls
Liam Carlin St Pauls
Conor Mc Goldrick St Teresas
Michael Mc Gill Tir Na Nog

James Loughrey Queens St Brigids
Justin Crozier Queens Cargin
Sean Burke Queens St Galls
Michael Pollock   St Marys Gort na Mona




where are the scores gonna come from?? id try edwards and Loughrey in full forward line with Tomas McCann flying off them

our problem the last few years is that our attck has had no target men, no focal point--no ball winners--my ma could stop CJ and Cunningham winning ball if they were the 2 man full forward line--football is simple enough when played right--win ball in midfield and drive it into a full forward line of pace and strength who can win ball, lay it off or get fouled--bang bang bang it in in front of them

our defence is never good so we need scores--to get scores we need strength, pace and power--Magill also an option in there--Baker knows about full forwards--its the winning of a game--we need to get it right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on December 03, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
Dara Edwards formerly of Eire Og in Craigavon??  :D Good luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 03, 2008, 04:28:04 PM
You and Dara Edwards as a 2 man full forward line would have done some damage for the ogs, pity they couldnt keep both of you at the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2008, 08:11:18 PM
Jim Stynes, any further news on Niall Mc Keevers progress out in Oz?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 04, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
Jim Stynes is in transit to oz himsel.....theres talk that hes gonna be an international rookie for the erinsborough dingos.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 05, 2008, 08:44:50 AM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on December 02, 2008, 03:35:52 PM
Antrims 2009 Mc Kenna Cup Panel includes 12 players who came through the recent trials,34 players are currentyly in the panel, 4 of whom will be on duty with their respective universitys.


David Mc Alernon Aghagallon
Neil O Connell Ahoghill
Donal Graham Ahoghill
Tony Scullion Cargin
Kieron Close Cargin
Michael Mc Cann Cargin
Thomas Mc Cann Cargin
Kevin O Boyle Cargin
Conor Creaney Glenavey
Paul Conlon Gortnamona
John Finucane Lamh Dhearg
Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Paddy Carey Portglenone
Kevin Mc Quillan Portglenone
Martin Mc Carry Portglenone
Gerard Mc Aleese Portglenone
Benny Hasson Rasharkin
Darragh Edwards St Brigids
Conor Maxwell St Endas
Damien Gault St Endas
Andy Mc Lean St Galls
Colin Brady St Galls
Adian Gallagher St Galls
Aaron Douglas St Johns
Kevin Mc Glinchey St Johns
Sean Mc Greevey St Pauls
Liam Carlin St Pauls
Conor Mc Goldrick St Teresas
Michael Mc Gill Tir Na Nog

James Loughrey Queens St Brigids
Justin Crozier Queens Cargin
Sean Burke Queens St Galls
Michael Pollock   St Marys Gort na Mona




Conor Murray of the Dearg, the bright young thing of Antrim GAA this time last year, isn't on the list.

Seems a strange omission. Any ideas why?

Philip Maguire of St. Teresa's would also be worth a run.

I can see a bit of mileage in the CJ thing but the other two McGourty boys are definitely out. Kieran, who would be my first choice CHF, is alleged to have pulled out once he saw that a full round of NFL fixtures was listed for 14th February.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 05, 2008, 03:19:59 PM
Always thought Murray was a bit light.
Is he still under 21? At uni? Hopefully both of those would help him.

Less than a month to the first game.
Good test at the start...away in Armagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2008, 05:56:18 PM
I agree with you SS2, Ciaran the best CHF in the county at the minute. A bad loss.

But its strange there hasnt been a bit more discussion on the omission of Sean Kelly! Whats the inside track there MR?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2008, 08:55:58 PM
I think it has been well known for a while that Sean wouldn't be playing county football. No fall-out, just easing off on commitments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2008, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 06, 2008, 05:56:18 PM
I agree with you SS2, Ciaran the best CHF in the county at the minute. A bad loss.

But its strange there hasnt been a bit more discussion on the omission of Sean Kelly! Whats the inside track there MR?


Was he sub in the Cavan Gaels match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2008, 10:58:31 PM
Aye Minder he was. Probably his hamstring injury was the biggest reason St Galls lost out to Gaels. He was put on the last 15 minutes down in Newry against Mayobridge when the game was in the balance, and swung it for St Galls. Aggravated it then again though.

Ciarans injury and Niblock geting hurt early in game left them badly exposed for ball winners and play makers in the half forward line.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 04:46:43 PM
what lovely bar did you fall out of?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 04:57:52 PM
was this the "Simple Minds" concert
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 05:05:05 PM
na more like Joe fell on ya ;) that would open ya up

how was the concert? friend of the wife was at it. i seen them too many years ago to remember
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 05:12:40 PM
money well spent :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 05:30:20 PM
the player rossa should have stopped is on now Hardstation Tony Doran ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 05:37:04 PM
Rossa could have won it that year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
na, joe and me go way back, though last time i seen him he wasn't happy. his team lost
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 07, 2008, 09:39:18 PM
Seriously milltown, you're dead meat. Friends shmiends he's now saying as he garners revenge on any quippers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2008, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 07, 2008, 09:39:18 PM
Seriously milltown, you're dead meat. Friends shmiends he's now saying as he garners revenge on any quippers.

tell him i was asking about him tomorrow o'neill, at work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 07, 2008, 11:29:34 PM
You must be joking, I took one of his Bourbon Creams last week; he wedged me.

When did Kevin McGourty make his debut for Antrim seniors? I know he played v Tyrone in 2003.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on December 08, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
2003 was kevins first year.. the win cavan would have been his cship debut..cuz he wasnt on the squad on brian whites lat year when they lost to derry. 

looking at the national league squad... good to see the manager not sticking to what we know from past years where its been much of the same... however i do feel that there are a few not included for whatever reason that need to be there... a bit of bias in the first three but conor murray, brendan and michael herron would have been obvious in my book..   mark dougan, terry o'neill, conal kelly, mark graham just a few automatic names that come into the head!!!  but like always..ill be behnd whoever is stripped out.

Good to see CJ in there too, every county needs an ACCURATE snap shooter like himself and Paddy!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 08, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
Bit surprised Conor Murray is not included, although he will no doubt be involved in Sigerson with the Poly.
He's twice the player of some of the lads on the squad, and Jordanstown must think very highly of him with him being a key member of their team, in SINI and being housed for the year free of charge.  Saw him on the telly a few nights ago, doing a training session with Oisín McConville.

Looking forward to tomorrow's IN - were it will reveal the county's club stars 2008
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 08, 2008, 10:03:31 PM
if there are other players on it that dont play for Cargin and Naomh Gall, i'll be surprised ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2008, 11:21:41 PM
Paddy Cunningham must be a shoe in... Rasharkin got to the semi too - maybe Jonny McAleese or someone like that.

I can't even remember the antrim c'ship... Who put Cargin out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2008, 09:57:33 AM
Any word on what the team is??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 09, 2008, 10:02:09 AM
Having read the thread on the best Gaelic footballers from the weaker counties and listened to bannside's exhortations, I have tried my hand at naming the best Antrim team over the last 25 years. In doing so I will admit that their youth has precluded the McCanns, Andy McClean, Justin Crozier and Conor John Pius; I would fully expect that if I was to revisit this exercise in three or four years time, then some or that entire quintet would be selected. Likewise Kevin McGourty's proclivity to the controversial has seen him excluded from selection. I am also aware that few, if any, of you will agree with my team, but such is the nature of these teams and I hope to stimulate debate with this selection.

Sean McGreevy (St. Paul's) – Almost an automatic choice, have we had another keeper in the last 25 years? There is a strong argument that Red Dog would make the best Ulster team of the last generation.

Donal Laverty (Cargin) – Would have preferred to pick him in his more natural half back slot, but couldn't leave either wing half out. Nor could I leave Laverty out, hence I have fired him in at number 2.

Ciaran Hamill (Glenavy) – Excellent footballer, but one who suffered because his prime was during the darkest days of Antrim football.

Martin Mulholland (Glenravel) – Could have been chosen in any position on the full back line, but by selecting him at left corner back, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Martin would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.

Sean Kelly (St. Gall's) – Youngest member of my selection. Would be a household name and an All-Star had he been born in Tyrone, Armagh or Derry. There is something seriously wrong with football in Antrim when someone with Kelly's attitude and ability feels unable to commit to inter-county football. What would that be Dr. McSparran?

Charlie McStravick (St. Paul's) – Rock solid centre-half to cover for the flamboyance of his two wing men. Although having said that, Charlie could play a bit too.

Alex McQuillan (Glenravel) – The only automatic choice – a rich man's Aaron Kernan. Twenty years ago he was doing what Kernan currently has commentators drooling over. Except he was doing it better. The fact that his cousin Dr McSparran name drops Alex McQuillan when the good doctor is trying to feign interest in football should not detract from the footballer that was Alex McQuillan.

John McKiernan (St. Teresa's) – More or less done by '83, but his exploits over the preceding decade meant I couldn't leave him out.

JP O'Kane (Lamh Dhearg) – Better known for his time with Louth and it is a pity that Antrim didn't get more time with him. Allegedly played on a Railway Cup alongside fourteen Dubs. Only representative of a once proud but ailing club.

Kevin Gough (St. John's) – Again the only representative of a once proud but ailing club.

Timmy Connolly (Ballymena) – Excellent chf, hard as nails and a very skilful footballer to boot. Saw him destroy Henry Downey in an All-Ireland club quarter-final during his time with Tir Conaill Gaels. Another who, unfortunately, we didn't get enough out of in the saffron jersey.

Ciaran O'Neill (Cargin) – Centre half back on the Ulster under-21 winning team of 1989, but was better at midfield or half forward. By selecting him at left half forward, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Butcher would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.

Kevin Madden (Portglenone) – Probably the best known Antrim forward on the last ten years. Good with free and from play, but lacking any real challengers for this spot.

PJ O'Hare (St. Gall's) – A unique blend of the finest talents of Kerry's two finest poachers; the physical strength of the Bomber and the basketball ability of the Star. Sullied his reputation somewhat with his forays into management.

John McManus (St. Paul's) – Vastly underrated footballer. Better at the frees than Madden and also better from play. Once kicked four points from play off Kieran McKeever and even bested Seamus 'The Pony' Moynihan on the one occasion their paths crossed.

So there you have it folks, seven country boys, seven city men and one (JP) from the part of the county that is neither city nor country. I could have been a politician.

Honourable mentions it has to be said for men like Joe Quinn, Paul McErlean, Yash Armstrong, Frank Hasson, Dermot Graham, Mickey Darragh, Speedy McAllister, Barney McCann and Joe Kennedy.

This is good fun. I might do a tour of all the counties now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2008, 11:25:56 AM
Interesting post Sam.

A few of those boys would be a bit before my time. How good was Paul McErlain - he's the only one I can think of that might merit inclusion? I only really saw him in his latter years. I'd also share that opinion of John McManus. I've unfortunately seen him destroy many a defender in the club scene.

Given the increase in Derry people hijacking this thread a few selections should provoke discussion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 09, 2008, 10:02:09 AM

Sean McGreevy (St. Paul's) – Almost an automatic choice, have we had another keeper in the last 25 years? There is a strong argument that Red Dog would make the best Ulster team of the last generation.

Donal Laverty (Cargin) – Would have preferred to pick him in his more natural half back slot, but couldn't leave either wing half out. Nor could I leave Laverty out, hence I have fired him in at number 2.

Ciaran Hamill (Glenavy) – Excellent footballer, but one who suffered because his prime was during the darkest days of Antrim football.

Martin Mulholland (Glenravel) – Could have been chosen in any position on the full back line, but by selecting him at left corner back, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Martin would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.

Sean Kelly (St. Gall's) – Youngest member of my selection. Would be a household name and an All-Star had he been born in Tyrone, Armagh or Derry. There is something seriously wrong with football in Antrim when someone with Kelly's attitude and ability feels unable to commit to inter-county football. What would that be Dr. McSparran?

Charlie McStravick (St. Paul's) – Rock solid centre-half to cover for the flamboyance of his two wing men. Although having said that, Charlie could play a bit too.

Alex McQuillan (Glenravel) – The only automatic choice – a rich man's Aaron Kernan. Twenty years ago he was doing what Kernan currently has commentators drooling over. Except he was doing it better. The fact that his cousin Dr McSparran name drops Alex McQuillan when the good doctor is trying to feign interest in football should not detract from the footballer that was Alex McQuillan.

John McKiernan (St. Teresa's) – More or less done by '83, but his exploits over the preceding decade meant I couldn't leave him out.

JP O'Kane (Lamh Dhearg) – Better known for his time with Louth and it is a pity that Antrim didn't get more time with him. Allegedly played on a Railway Cup alongside fourteen Dubs. Only representative of a once proud but ailing club.

Kevin Gough (St. John's) – Again the only representative of a once proud but ailing club.

Timmy Connolly (Ballymena) – Excellent chf, hard as nails and a very skilful footballer to boot. Saw him destroy Henry Downey in an All-Ireland club quarter-final during his time with Tir Conaill Gaels. Another who, unfortunately, we didn't get enough out of in the saffron jersey.

Ciaran O'Neill (Cargin) – Centre half back on the Ulster under-21 winning team of 1989, but was better at midfield or half forward. By selecting him at left half forward, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Butcher would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.

Kevin Madden (Portglenone) – Probably the best known Antrim forward on the last ten years. Good with free and from play, but lacking any real challengers for this spot.

PJ O'Hare (St. Gall's) – A unique blend of the finest talents of Kerry's two finest poachers; the physical strength of the Bomber and the basketball ability of the Star. Sullied his reputation somewhat with his forays into management.

John McManus (St. Paul's) – Vastly underrated footballer. Better at the frees than Madden and also better from play. Once kicked four points from play off Kieran McKeever and even bested Seamus 'The Pony' Moynihan on the one occasion their paths crossed.


You seriously have to question the validity of this side. The premise states that the players chosen played the best football for the county over the last 25 years. To chose McKiernan is like including Chris Lawn in the best Tyrone side 2005-2008 whereas he might have featured 1998-2008, or Steve Davis in the best snooker players of the last decade. Added to that might be the likes of PJ O'Hare and Gough. Did McKiernan contribute more to the Antrim cause from 1983-2008 than Kevin McGourty, Brady...even the younger lads like McLean or the McCanns?

I remember reading a quote from a St Paul's manager in the late 90s comparing McManus to Maurice Fitzgerald. Must check the Irish News archives.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on December 09, 2008, 01:11:03 PM
CLUB STARS: ANTRIM
By Jim Smyth
09/12/08

1. JOHN FINNUCANE (LAMH DHEARG)

In the bid for league survival and the senior championship crown, he made few mistakes. Was a safe pair of hands all season. Has been a Godsend for the club since joining from St Enda's.

2. COLIN BRADY (ST GALL'S)

As corner backs go, there are none better. The 25-year-old has come through the ranks and has seven senior championship medals to date. His tight marking and blocking have made him the scourge of corner forwards. When not engaged with his club he works as an engineer.

ANTRIM CHAMPIONSHIP STAR MAN: ANDREW McCLEAN (ST GALL'S)

McClean has been rock solid in the full-back berth both for club and county, his high fielding, sure hands and intelligent delivery making him a class apart. An added bonus is his ability to come forward and his insurance point against Cargin, in the senior championship semi-final, may well have been the most important point of the entire season.

At just 22, he has been there and done it all. Although only a few years out of the minor ranks, where he won a championship gong, he has also secured four U21 medals and a similar number at senior level. Obviously the sky's the limit for such a talented player.

A former pupil at De La Salle, where he honed his game, he has the unique distinction of having represented Ireland in Australian Rules Football at U17 level. St Gall's and Antrim should be thanking their lucky stars that he returned safely from Down Under.

Andy is currently a sports scientist at Jordanstown.

4. KEVIN O'BOYLE (ERIN'S OWN)

ONEof the outstanding Cargin performers. Consistency personified, the 21-year-old university student has gone from strength-to-strength in his three years in senior football.

He was the club's Player of the Year in 2006. Although not the tallest defender, his speed off the mark, precision passing and excellent reading of the game certainly outweigh his lack of inches.

5. JOSEPH CAREY (ST ERGNAT'S)

There are few better defenders. The 21-year-old builder, with just three years' senior experience, has been one of his side's inspirational figures. Not the tallest defender, his dynamism has seen him help his club to league success and an intermediate championship final. When in possession he is seldom robbed despite having only one eye on the ball and the other on its intended destination.

6. JUSTIN CROZIER (ERIN'S OWN)

Solid as a rock in this position, the 20-year-old QUB medical student has proved his versatility by popping up all over the place. Seldom does he not manage to get his name on the score sheet.

A well-balanced and unselfish player with a strong work ethic, his mobility is his strongest asset.

7. SEAN KELLY (ST GALL'S)

What more can be said about a player who has captained his county on a couple of occasions?

The 26-year-old St Mary's Grammar School teacher is one of the best half-backs in the business.

A stylish playmaker and excellent reader of the game, he has been known to show his forward colleagues how it should be done.

His dashing runs forward have caused consternation in many a defence.

8. PADDY LOGAN (ALL SAINTS)

Since his move to All Saints two years ago he has reinvented himself and changed their fortunes completely with his sensational performances at midfield.

His high-fielding and accurate place-kicking saw his club bridge a 22-year gap in winning the intermediate championship against all the odds.

Can be relied on for a handful of points in every game.

9. MICHAEL McCANN (ERIN'S OWN)

Chosen as the county senior Footballer of the Year, the 22-year-old quantity surveyor certainly got all of his levels correct.

Part of the Cargin engine room, he has been the driving force behind his club for years.

Both at club and county level, McCann (left) can be relied on to contribute his fair share of scores, as he did when winning McRory and Hogan Cup medals when a student at St Patrick's, Maghera.

Always certain to make and contribute to the scoresheet.

10. PHILIP MAGUIRE (ST TERESA'S)

son of former county player Danny, Phil has certainly made a name for himself.

Although carrying an injury in the junior championship final, the former De la Salle McLarnon cup captain was as inspirational as ever. A strong and skilful playmaker.

11. MICHAEL MAGILL (TIR NA NOG)

A former St Louis Grammar School and Quee'ns University player the

25-year-old computer analyist, now working in London, was the rock on which Tir na nOg's passage to the semi-final of the intermediate football championship and promotion to Division Two were based.

His outstanding performance against All Saints in the intermediate semi-final was certainly one to remember.

12. PADDY CUNNINGHAM

(LAMH DHEARG)

When it comes to scoring there is no-one better. The 22-year-old has pulled his side out of many tight corners.

A teacher in Corpus Christie College, he has won every honour possible when a student at UUJ including the Sigerson Cup. A university Allstar, he was twice top scorer in the competition. Without his half-a-dozen points per game average, his club would not have figured this season.

13. KARL STEWART (ST GALL'S)

The 25-year-old joiner has come up through the club ranks with six senior medals and three at U21 level. As a student at De La Salle he figured prominently in the McLarnon Cup team. Skilful and deadly when within shooting range, he is also strong and robust.

14. BRENDAN HASSON (ST MARY'S)

AT home at midfield or full-forward, the 20-year-old was chosen as this year's U21 Player of the Year.

He is one of four Hassons on the Rasharkin side which were narrowly beaten in this season's senior championship semi-final. Thrives on making dashing solo runs which inevitably end in spectacular goals.

15. GERARD NUGENT (SEAN McDERMOTT'S)

One of the main figures in driving McDermott's to junior championship success, the ace corner forward figured in all four championship games, including the surprise defeat of St Teresa's in the final. A strong, forceful and accurate finisher who always brings his team-mates into the game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 09, 2008, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 09, 2008, 10:02:09 AM
Ciaran O'Neill (Cargin) – Centre half back on the Ulster under-21 winning team of 1989, but was better at midfield or half forward. By selecting him at left half forward, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Butcher would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.
while you are right in pointing out what was the only other weak spot in the '93 Derry team (first problematic position was Full back) as no 12 - LHF , I doubt that Butcher O'Neill would have been selected - even though imo he would have augmented the position and thus the team.
1. His father was from N.Derry and Banagher so would have a massive degree of difficulty in getting into the team given Mr Colemans (RIP) dislike of the club and a lot of its people (this seemed tomellow with time however and thankfully SML was just too damn good to leave out).
2. Mr Coleman (RIP) was bestest friends with the incumbent LHF.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on December 09, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
Having read the thread on the best Gaelic footballers from the weaker counties and listened to bannside's exhortations, I have tried my hand at naming the best Antrim team over the last 25 years. In doing so I will admit that their youth has precluded the McCanns, Andy McClean, Justin Crozier and Conor John Pius; I would fully expect that if I was to revisit this exercise in three or four years time, then some or that entire quintet would be selected. Likewise Kevin McGourty's proclivity to the controversial has seen him excluded from selection. I am also aware that few, if any, of you will agree with my team, but such is the nature of these teams and I hope to stimulate debate with this selection.

Sean McGreevy (St. Paul's) – Almost an automatic choice, have we had another keeper in the last 25 years? There is a strong argument that Red Dog would make the best Ulster team of the last generation.

Donal Laverty (Cargin) – Would have preferred to pick him in his more natural half back slot, but couldn't leave either wing half out. Nor could I leave Laverty out, hence I have fired him in at number 2.

Ciaran Hamill (Glenavy) – Excellent footballer, but one who suffered because his prime was during the darkest days of Antrim football.

Martin Mulholland (Glenravel) – Could have been chosen in any position on the full back line, but by selecting him at left corner back, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Martin would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.

Sean Kelly (St. Gall's) – Youngest member of my selection. Would be a household name and an All-Star had he been born in Tyrone, Armagh or Derry. There is something seriously wrong with football in Antrim when someone with Kelly's attitude and ability feels unable to commit to inter-county football. What would that be Dr. McSparran?

Charlie McStravick (St. Paul's) – Rock solid centre-half to cover for the flamboyance of his two wing men. Although having said that, Charlie could play a bit too.

Alex McQuillan (Glenravel) – The only automatic choice – a rich man's Aaron Kernan. Twenty years ago he was doing what Kernan currently has commentators drooling over. Except he was doing it better. The fact that his cousin Dr McSparran name drops Alex McQuillan when the good doctor is trying to feign interest in football should not detract from the footballer that was Alex McQuillan.

John McKiernan (St. Teresa's) – More or less done by '83, but his exploits over the preceding decade meant I couldn't leave him out.

JP O'Kane (Lamh Dhearg) – Better known for his time with Louth and it is a pity that Antrim didn't get more time with him. Allegedly played on a Railway Cup alongside fourteen Dubs. Only representative of a once proud but ailing club.

Kevin Gough (St. John's) – Again the only representative of a once proud but ailing club.

Timmy Connolly (Ballymena) – Excellent chf, hard as nails and a very skilful footballer to boot. Saw him destroy Henry Downey in an All-Ireland club quarter-final during his time with Tir Conaill Gaels. Another who, unfortunately, we didn't get enough out of in the saffron jersey.

Ciaran O'Neill (Cargin) – Centre half back on the Ulster under-21 winning team of 1989, but was better at midfield or half forward. By selecting him at left half forward, I can justifiably state that had his father remained in his native county Derry, Butcher would have worn this number in the All-Ireland final in '93.

Kevin Madden (Portglenone) – Probably the best known Antrim forward on the last ten years. Good with free and from play, but lacking any real challengers for this spot.

PJ O'Hare (St. Gall's) – A unique blend of the finest talents of Kerry's two finest poachers; the physical strength of the Bomber and the basketball ability of the Star. Sullied his reputation somewhat with his forays into management.

John McManus (St. Paul's) – Vastly underrated footballer. Better at the frees than Madden and also better from play. Once kicked four points from play off Kieran McKeever and even bested Seamus 'The Pony' Moynihan on the one occasion their paths crossed.

So there you have it folks, seven country boys, seven city men and one (JP) from the part of the county that is neither city nor country. I could have been a politician.

Honourable mentions it has to be said for men like Joe Quinn, Paul McErlean, Yash Armstrong, Frank Hasson, Dermot Graham, Mickey Darragh, Speedy McAllister, Barney McCann and Joe Kennedy.

This is good fun. I might do a tour of all the counties now.


    Surely terry mccrudden has been the best centre half back this county has had over the past 25 years? Does anyone remember him marking martin mchugh and keeping him scoreless in the championship. cavan also springs to mind 1995 when he had to go onto peter reilly and do mcstravicks job for him. My team would be:
1.Sean Mcgreevey - St. Pauls
2.Aidan Hamill - Glenavy
3.Bap Armstrong - Rossa
4. Martin Mulholland - Glenravel
5. Alex McQuillan - Glenravel
6. Terry McCrudden - Lamh Dhearg
7. Sean Kelly - St Galls
8. John P O'Kane - Lamh Dhearg
9. John McKiernan - St. Theresas / Lamh Dhearg
10. Timmy Connolly - Ballymena
11. Jim Herron - Lamh Dhearg
12. Gerry McCann - St Johns
13. Micky Darragh - St Johns
14. not too sure
15. Kevin Gough - St Johns




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bomber on December 09, 2008, 06:30:16 PM
Is Paddy Cunningham fit for the McKenna Cup? Didn't he hurt the ankle lately or something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on December 09, 2008, 06:31:33 PM
sorry i meant ciaran hamill. strong cases for pat magorrian, paddy cunningham senior, michael johnstone, aidan donnelly, donal armstrong, peter murray, ciaran o'neill, lennie harbinson and was it stphen lynn?? from cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
John McManus, while a gifted footballer i found that he lacked something, now can anyone fill me in on what that was?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
John McManus, while a gifted footballer i found that he lacked something, now can anyone fill me in on what that was?

Good looks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2008, 07:22:41 PM
Good side there Saff 2. Would have seen all of your team in action, and you`re definitely not far away. Raymond Mc Guckin prob the best club player I saw, but not rated enough by the co manager of the time.

Each generation throws up half a dozen good players, good enough for any team - but we need to get this figure up to 15 or 20 at the same time.

Plenty of talent out there at the minute, esp at under age level. That St Johns u-14 side is unreal. Sean Stinsons u -15`s about 3rd in Ulster og sport, and the Lamh Dearg u-16`s full of classy players.

Antrim minors last year not a mile off a good Cavan team, who in turn ran Tyrone to a point. St Marys CBS making decent progress too. Creggan minors also going well in the St Pauls comp.

The challenge is to get at least 20 top class talents all together at the one time, and no one will tell me that there isnt more than that out there in the fourteen to eighteen year olds across the county.

But it is the responsibility of the "doctor" to see this and action a plan to develop this.

To date this whole area of underage development has been a disaster, and dont get me going into specifics. There are far too many.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
John McManus, while a gifted footballer i found that he lacked something, now can anyone fill me in on what that was?

Good looks?

whatever tickles your fancy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
Bannside I would agree with a lot of what you say but antrim minors got cleaned by cavan last year. The scoreboard may have ended up close but that was one of the most porous defenses I have ever seen...

I do believe underage talent is getting better though. I had high hopes for the u21s this year but unfortunately that didn't happen. Hopefully there'll be a few good seniors out of that yet though.

Current players Michael McCann, possibly Tomas, and with his head right Conor McGourty could and should surpass anything in that team. Whether they do time will tell. Paddy Cunningham not in "great" teritory IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 09, 2008, 09:38:33 PM
If you take away the frees from Cunningham, albeit he is very good at them, im not sure he is as good as some tout him to be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 09, 2008, 09:38:33 PM
If you take away the frees from Cunningham, albeit he is very good at them, im not sure he is as good as some tout him to be.

I believe some say the same about Madden.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2008, 10:07:12 PM
Madden was unmarkable in club football and there were a few games for the county where he just rattled in the goals. His, short, career was very blighted by injury though so I don't think we ever saw the best of him.

Would have loved to have seen more of him the year we should have beat Derry to get to the ulster final but wasn't to be unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 08:37:52 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
John McManus, while a gifted footballer i found that he lacked something, now can anyone fill me in on what that was?

Good looks?

A left foot?

Personality?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 10, 2008, 08:47:43 AM
ITG, last year the u-21`s had a good panel, but because the work wasnt done with them, they got well and truly hammered. Jody didnt give a shit, and the Doc obviously didnt either, or else he mght just have made it his business to find out what was going on.

I`d say if he took a look at the entire area of football development across the spectrum, he would have seen very little going on - certainly in in direct comparison to some of our neighbouring counties.

It is becoming more and more evident that either he hasnt a clue, or possibly more sinister, he just dosent care!

As Ive said a lot of ties before, I could put up with temporary lack of success at senior level, if I was content we were doing a lot more at underage level

like a true politician, he makes sure his own immediate area of interest is well catered for in this sector - North Antrim underage hurling development.

Its obvious Football is the poor relation, and its time this was pointed out. ( If he needs specifics, I will provide more than enough to back up my argument)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 08:51:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2008, 11:25:56 AM
Interesting post Sam.

A few of those boys would be a bit before my time. How good was Paul McErlain - he's the only one I can think of that might merit inclusion? I only really saw him in his latter years. I'd also share that opinion of John McManus. I've unfortunately seen him destroy many a defender in the club scene.

Given the increase in Derry people hijacking this thread a few selections should provoke discussion.

I genuinely think the phrase "the sublime and the ridiculous" was invented for Mackers. He scored some of the most incredible points I have ever seen; one from under the Hogan Stand in a NFL quarter-final against Kerry and the winner in a Sigerson semi-final in Trinity being two that stand out. However either shot could as easily have ended up setting off in totally the opposite direction than was intended. His flirting with Alliance party membership would also veer towards the ridiculous.

In fairness he suffered because successive Antrim managers couldn't agree on his best position - he could have been selected anywhere in the midfield diamond. Had he been given a few years at chf and nowhere else then he could have been a really good player. Still prefer Connolly myself.

Quote from: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
You seriously have to question the validity of this side. The premise states that the players chosen played the best football for the county over the last 25 years. To chose McKiernan is like including Chris Lawn in the best Tyrone side 2005-2008 whereas he might have featured 1998-2008, .

If I was picking the best Tyrone team from 2005-08, I would be very tempted to pick Lawn. Two of my full backs would be McMenamin and Justin McNulty, the latter almost by default. The half back line would be Harte, Gormley and Jordan. So one full back spot up for grabs. The stand out performance for me in that time frame was Lawn's 20 minute cameo in the 2005 final. Added to what he had done over the previous decade and a bit, then I think I could justify his selection. A bit like John Wayne's Oscar. Hence, my selection of McKiernan is valid.

Quote from: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
Did McKiernan contribute more to the Antrim cause from 1983-2008 than Kevin McGourty?

The brutally honest answer (and I'm expecting a deputation at my door later) is yes he did.

Quote from: ONeill on December 09, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
Did McKiernan contribute more to the Antrim cause from 1983-2008 than ... Brady...even the younger lads like McLean or the McCanns?

Brady and McLean aren't midfielders, hence your comparison isn't valid. You could argue Brady vs. Gough, but Brady (Kevin I'm assuming) too often flattered to deceive and wouldn't even make my short list. One or other of the McCanns will eventually replace McKiernan on the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 10, 2008, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 10, 2008, 08:47:43 AM

like a true politician, he makes sure his own immediate area of interest is well catered for in this sector - North Antrim underage hurling development.

Its obvious Football is the poor relation, and its time this was pointed out. ( If he needs specifics, I will provide more than enough to back up my argument)

Obviously i am no fan of Johnny Ping. In fairness Intotommygunn the good work being done in North Antrim hurling development is being done by the North Antrim board itself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 10, 2008, 10:18:35 AM
BTW SS2, Neither Lynn in your selection - even though one was a TV 'star' (for all the wrong reasons) at one stage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 01:46:38 PM
No neither Lynn would have been good enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2008, 02:04:46 PM
Found it - thought I was going mad there for a while:

Injuries mount for Saffrons' 'must win' encounter
By Orla Bannon
03/02/99
Gaelic Games ANTRIM have several injury worries ahead of their division 2A game with London at Casement Park on Sunday. Goalkeeper Donard Shannon (pulled muscle), Gearoid Adams (shin splints) and Aidan Donnelly (hamstring) have all to prove fitness before the team is selected tomorrow evening. It is a game Antrim selector Brian Coyle assessed as a must win for the Saffrons. "It would be a disaster of the highest proportions if we lost to London," he said. "Two points is vital to us before we travel to Wicklow next week. We have to be careful of London and it is really a game we can't afford to lose." After a heavy defeat in Limerick just before the Christmas break, Coyle anticipates there will be several changes from that game. With over 30 players attending county training sessions these days, Coyle says the bond between the current crop of Antrim players has vastly improved. "The boys who have been around for a while say the atmosphere hasn't been better for over five years. "The enthusiasm is here, now all we have to do is get a few results. But people should remember we're building for the next two or three years, not just this year." With Kevin Madden the top scorer in the league and St Paul's forward John McManus also on top form, the optimistic Coyle believes the Antrim attack could show more potency this year. "Maurice Fitzgerald would have eaten his heart out at some of the points John McManus scored against St John's last Sunday. "It would be nice for Antrim to have several forwards who can score heavily."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 02:11:47 PM
Yes, I remember that article now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
You've lost me there NAG. Not sure what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 10, 2008, 03:16:59 PM
So SS2 if someone does not hold the same opinion as you they are "sniping"? I dont think i have ever seen a newpaper report with a players "fortitude" or "balls" getting questioned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
Not sure what you mean either Minder, but it's getting more difficult to edit these posts and make them look like part of the original thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on December 10, 2008, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 10, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
Examples man. Give me an example to back up your point. Give me an example of an opponent of his who will say that he was cowed by intimidation. I could get other examples from newspapers to back up my point. Have you ever spoken to anyone who played alongside him?

I played both alongside and against him and would never have associated him with lacking any balls.

Easy to snipe away I suppose.

I played against him, so I'll give you an example, a 1st hand one. Didn't want to know. Under rated you say. IMO over rated massively, only by you!

Such an example isn't particularly useful. I was thinking more of specific dates, venues, opponents etc.


Quote from: Minder on December 10, 2008, 03:16:59 PM
So SS2 if someone does not hold the same opinion as you they are "sniping"? I dont think i have ever seen a newpaper report with a players "fortitude" or "balls" getting questioned.

No, my point is these boys are questioning someone's fortitude anonymously behind a computer keyboard. I am simply asking them to come up with specific examples to back up their case. Repeating something ad nauseum doesn't make it any more valid, providing specific evidence will. The newspaper report could easily have said that the switch of Logan worked and left it at that. People could have drawn their own conclusions. That someone with Logan's approach to the game was unable to have any impact on McManus's performance would tell you what? I have my own opinion on what it tells me.

Interestingly too those from milltown row's club who I have spoken too would also take McManus's fortitude over at least one of the three who questioned it on this thread.

Your are obvisously eating too many jammy dodgers over lunch with your "mates" from my club ;) as for you post about using pseudonyms and hiding behind computers. well you have a cheek. i'm not going to search through your many posts, but you also have questioned many a person whilst hiding behind the computer.

what was it i was implying? i said he was lacking something, it was you that said he lacked balls. you have also listed people on various threads with your opinion of their abilities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Your are obvisously eating too many jammy dodgers over lunch with your "mates" from my club ;) as for you post about using pseudonyms and hiding behind computers. well you have a cheek. i'm not going to search through your many posts, but you also have questioned many a person whilst hiding behind the computer.

what was it i was implying? i said he was lacking something, it was you that said he lacked balls. you have also listed people on various threads with your opinion of their abilities.

Never eaten a Jammie Dodger in my life, by the time I make it to the staff room McGourty and Buchanan has consumed them all.

No cheek in me complaining about using pseudonyms. There is nothing I have said on this board that I wouldn't repeat to the person I said it about. Off the top of my head I have criticised Dr. McSparran, Jody Gormley and Liam Baker Bradley. Any time I have criticised anyone, I have backed the criticism with what I felt was reasonable evidence. Often I have received PMs agreeing with my position from others who do not want to make the same point in public. Many, many posters on the board know who I am. You know where I work (I told you), there is only a finite list of possibilities. You'll get there eventually.

I have asked you what you were implying. Others appear to have taken the same implication, but I am happy in the knowledge that the two more knowledgeable football posters on the thread didn't feel the need to agree with you.

Shocking grammar, by the way. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 11, 2008, 01:46:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Your are obvisously eating too many jammy dodgers over lunch with your "mates" from my club ;) as for you post about using pseudonyms and hiding behind computers. well you have a cheek. i'm not going to search through your many posts, but you also have questioned many a person whilst hiding behind the computer.

what was it i was implying? i said he was lacking something, it was you that said he lacked balls. you have also listed people on various threads with your opinion of their abilities.

Never eaten a Jammie Dodger in my life, by the time I make it to the staff room McGourty and Buchanan has consumed them all.

No cheek in me complaining about using pseudonyms. There is nothing I have said on this board that I wouldn't repeat to the person I said it about. Off the top of my head I have criticised Dr. McSparran, Jody Gormley and Liam Baker Bradley. Any time I have criticised anyone, I have backed the criticism with what I felt was reasonable evidence. Often I have received PMs agreeing with my position from others who do not want to make the same point in public. Many, many posters on the board know who I am. You know where I work (I told you), there is only a finite list of possibilities. You'll get there eventually.

I have asked you what you were implying. Others appear to have taken the same implication, but I am happy in the knowledge that the two more knowledgeable football posters on the thread didn't feel the need to agree with you.

Shocking grammar, by the way. 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
...cast yer mind back !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 01:51:09 PM
Lynchbhoy excepted obviously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 11, 2008, 01:55:06 PM
SS2 - I am not getting at you or the player in question I am giving my opinion on a player that I played against and watched for many years.

So no need to get all defensive you cant be right on all of them!  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
So did you get the PM?

Never claimed to be right on all them. Have been spectacularly wrong in the past and will be again in the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 11, 2008, 03:10:24 PM
Got it and replied!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 11, 2008, 04:57:32 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
So did you get the PM?

Never claimed to be right on all them. Have been spectacularly wrong in the past and will be again in the future.
the truest thing you have wrote on hear evir !
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Your are obviously eating too many Cammy dodgers over lunch with your "mates" from my club ;) as for you post about using pseudonyms and hiding behind computers. well you have a cheek. i'm not going to search through your many posts, but you also have questioned many a person whilst hiding behind the computer.

what was it i was implying? i said he was lacking something, it was you that said he lacked balls. you have also listed people on various threads with your opinion of their abilities.

Never eaten a Jammie Dodger in my life, by the time I make it to the staff room McGourty and Buchanan has consumed them all.

No cheek in me complaining about using pseudonyms. There is nothing I have said on this board that I wouldn't repeat to the person I said it about. Off the top of my head I have criticised Dr. McSparran, Jody Gormley and Liam Baker Bradley. Any time I have criticised anyone, I have backed the criticism with what I felt was reasonable evidence. Often I have received PMs agreeing with my position from others who do not want to make the same point in public. Many, many posters on the board know who I am. You know where I work (I told you), there is only a finite list of possibilities. You'll get there eventually.

I have asked you what you were implying. Others appear to have taken the same implication, but I am happy in the knowledge that the two more knowledgeable football posters on the thread didn't feel the need to agree with you.

Shocking grammar, by the way. 
my gremmer dosnt pay for my wages, techers falided me, techers like ya ;)  i have been outed on this board and Stevie wonder could read through my posts and work out who i am. so you weren't getting at me about hidding behind computers. as for you telling these people what you think then i look forward to hearing you speak up at the next county convention. as for knowing you, well my son done his work experience in your work. and your mates at my club talk.

explain the knowledge criteria? i was unaware of a class system in place. i played senior football when i was 18, does that mean i don't meet the criteria, i decided after a year that i preferred
hurling and just played reserve football, and still do. let me and the rest of the posters know of the special criteria needed for posting about football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Your are obviously eating too many Cammy dodgers over lunch with your "mates" from my club ;) as for you post about using pseudonyms and hiding behind computers. well you have a cheek. i'm not going to search through your many posts, but you also have questioned many a person whilst hiding behind the computer.

what was it i was implying? i said he was lacking something, it was you that said he lacked balls. you have also listed people on various threads with your opinion of their abilities.

Never eaten a Jammie Dodger in my life, by the time I make it to the staff room McGourty and Buchanan has consumed them all.

No cheek in me complaining about using pseudonyms. There is nothing I have said on this board that I wouldn't repeat to the person I said it about. Off the top of my head I have criticised Dr. McSparran, Jody Gormley and Liam Baker Bradley. Any time I have criticised anyone, I have backed the criticism with what I felt was reasonable evidence. Often I have received PMs agreeing with my position from others who do not want to make the same point in public. Many, many posters on the board know who I am. You know where I work (I told you), there is only a finite list of possibilities. You'll get there eventually.

I have asked you what you were implying. Others appear to have taken the same implication, but I am happy in the knowledge that the two more knowledgeable football posters on the thread didn't feel the need to agree with you.

Shocking grammar, by the way. 
my gremmer dosnt pay for my wages, techers falided me, techers like ya ;)  i have been outed on this board and Stevie wonder could read through my posts and work out who i am. so you weren't getting at me about hidding behind computers. as for you telling these people what you think then i look forward to hearing you speak up at the next county convention. as for knowing you, well my son done his work experience in your work. and your mates at my club talk.

explain the knowledge criteria? i was unaware of a class system in place. i played senior football when i was 18, does that mean i don't meet the criteria, i decided after a year that i preferred
hurling and just played reserve football, and still do. let me and the rest of the posters know of the special criteria needed for posting about football

You would think in your job that basic grammar would be essential.

I know your son did his work experience in our school. I even started a thread to help him.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5722.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5722.0)

I don't have any mates in your club, simply work colleagues. I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway. Particularly the older one. You only see him when he's looking something. Anyway the young buck, McCaff and myself can discuss you on our wee weekend away tomorrow.

As for the knowledge thing. It would appear that both bannside's and tommygunn's main interest is in football, whereas yours and NAG's is in hurling.  I would trust your or NAG's judgement on hurling before bannside's or tommygunn's. Nothing to be getting to het up about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 12, 2008, 09:08:32 AM
SS2 after seeing Bannside's Antrim team picks I wouldnt be so sure! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2008, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 11, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Your are obviously eating too many Cammy dodgers over lunch with your "mates" from my club ;) as for you post about using pseudonyms and hiding behind computers. well you have a cheek. i'm not going to search through your many posts, but you also have questioned many a person whilst hiding behind the computer.

what was it i was implying? i said he was lacking something, it was you that said he lacked balls. you have also listed people on various threads with your opinion of their abilities.

Never eaten a Jammie Dodger in my life, by the time I make it to the staff room McGourty and Buchanan has consumed them all.

No cheek in me complaining about using pseudonyms. There is nothing I have said on this board that I wouldn't repeat to the person I said it about. Off the top of my head I have criticised Dr. McSparran, Jody Gormley and Liam Baker Bradley. Any time I have criticised anyone, I have backed the criticism with what I felt was reasonable evidence. Often I have received PMs agreeing with my position from others who do not want to make the same point in public. Many, many posters on the board know who I am. You know where I work (I told you), there is only a finite list of possibilities. You'll get there eventually.

I have asked you what you were implying. Others appear to have taken the same implication, but I am happy in the knowledge that the two more knowledgeable football posters on the thread didn't feel the need to agree with you.

Shocking grammar, by the way. 
my gremmer dosnt pay for my wages, techers falided me, techers like ya ;)  i have been outed on this board and Stevie wonder could read through my posts and work out who i am. so you weren't getting at me about hidding behind computers. as for you telling these people what you think then i look forward to hearing you speak up at the next county convention. as for knowing you, well my son done his work experience in your work. and your mates at my club talk.

explain the knowledge criteria? i was unaware of a class system in place. i played senior football when i was 18, does that mean i don't meet the criteria, i decided after a year that i preferred
hurling and just played reserve football, and still do. let me and the rest of the posters know of the special criteria needed for posting about football

You would think in your job that basic grammar would be essential.

I know your son did his work experience in our school. I even started a thread to help him.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5722.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5722.0)

I don't have any mates in your club, simply work colleagues. I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway. Particularly the older one. You only see him when he's looking something. Anyway the young buck, McCaff and myself can discuss you on our wee weekend away tomorrow.

As for the knowledge thing. It would appear that both bannside's and tommygunn's main interest is in football, whereas yours and NAG's is in hurling.  I would trust your or NAG's judgement on hurling before bannside's or tommygunn's. Nothing to be getting to het up about.

you undo all your great work with these local colloquialisms !
(hint - the word 'for')
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2008, 10:13:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?
myth busted :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 12, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?

I could be wrong but i would have pushed for a comma after "me". Perhaps some of our learned friends could confirm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2008, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 12, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?

I could be wrong but i would have pushed for a comma after "me". Perhaps some of our learned friends could confirm.
you can throw as much punctuation in there as you like, it is still a brutalisation of language!
At least he's a home economics teacher !
;) :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 12, 2008, 10:38:20 AM
is it a teacher training day or what?!?!?

;)

have yous boys no wanes to be educating!!!
must be some craic in your staff room, why do yous not just debate it in there!

is buchanan speaking to all members of staff again after lamhs being put to the slaughter, lol!!!!
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?

Some fecker stole my Y key when I wasn't looking, swapped it for the M kem and got the kems sneaked back in again before I got to the end of the sentence.

Look they did it again.

Quote from: culchie11 on December 12, 2008, 10:38:20 AM
is it a teacher training day or what?!?!?

;)

have yous boys no wanes to be educating!!!
must be some craic in your staff room, why do yous not just debate it in there!

is buchanan speaking to all members of staff again after lamhs being put to the slaughter, lol!!!!
:D

No work to do here. To quote the legendary Olcan McFetridge, we all got the work red (sp?) up years ago.

Buchanan has comes to terms with it, ma McGourty sent him in a pavlova. He was more annoyed when members of an unnamed club tried to poach Paddy Cunningham during the time Hands spent in the staff room.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 12, 2008, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2008, 10:13:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?
myth busted :(

:D :D :D :D :D :D how does that humble pie taste SS2 :D :D :D :D long over due  :D :D :D :D and without doubt, well worth the wait. :D :D :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on December 12, 2008, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2008, 10:13:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
I tolerate them and them tolerate me on the face of it anyway.


What?
myth busted :(

:D :D :D :D :D :D how does that humble pie taste SS2 :D :D :D :D long over due  :D :D :D :D and without doubt, well worth the wait. :D :D :P

Glad to have brightened up your day. The weight of infallacy was wearing me down anyway. I suppose the only other redeeming factor was that it wasn't you who spotted it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 12, 2008, 12:50:50 PM
ss2 does buchanan know how to turn on a computer, was just wondering if the former lamh great, would have gone by the name of firehill at anytime!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 02:04:10 PM
Certainly an avid reader of the board, but I am not sure if he has registered here. He could well have been firehill, but he definitely would jealously guard his and everyone else's anonymity. No chance of any loose talk from Buchanan.

Every day at lunch time though, I can see him scanning the staffroom and hear him muttering under his breath "Which one of you feckers is saffron sam2? We're going straight back up you know! It wouldn't have happened in my day".

The short answer then would be I don't know. I'm not sure if that is much help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 12, 2008, 04:03:40 PM
here ss2 was that you in the IN today with the santa hat on, lol!!!
paddy barnes looked like he was smallest in the class!!!
;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2008, 07:12:13 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 12, 2008, 12:27:38 PM
Glad to have brightened up your day. The weight of infallacy was wearing me down anyway. I suppose the only other redeeming factor was that it wasn't you who spotted it.
I could be wrong again, but check out your most recent oxford edition...  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on December 12, 2008, 09:24:29 PM
culchie11...  cant believe you thought i was  the legendry lamhs man beuky big balls (buchanon) haha...  im a long way off being a lamh great but a dhearg man i am...   a few know who i am (and not worried that they do) but your way off the mark with that one... 

any news of any one being cut off the county squad yet... few retards there that the manager might realise they arnt good enough at the first training session.. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2008, 04:32:52 AM
Just in after the Christmas works do. Bit merry but not too bad!

Few quick points. Firstly read the Docs Christmas message, the Co convention notes. Or known appropriately as the chairmans annual address. Its on the official page.

Ive got serious issues about some of the things that go on in this county, but thats only because I would be passionate about things Antrim. If I didnt care, I wouldnt be on here at this time of the night.

The County administrators might not like the fact that we can come on here and give an account of our feelings and opinions - maybe we shouldnt be allowed an opinion at all !

So what are we. Are we nameless, faceless, cowardly people who hide behind the pseudenoms, or are we a useful barometer of public opinion, free of any shackles.

In my case, I post in the assumption that 90% of the users here know who I am. If the remaining 10% wish to know my identity, they can PM me any time - no probem. There is nothing I will say here that I would not endorse in a private face to face.

On these grounds I will continue to enjoy my free time on this discussion board, and promote the fact that a huge proportion of Co board officials either scan this site, or or members themselves, and if they were in the same position as ourselves - ordinary five eighths, then if the roles were reversed, they would be posting on here themselves!

In my opinion, the "doctor" is a progressive chairman, a good step ahead of what we`ve had before. I would like him to know that my collective reflection of the chairmans report, and the up to date appraisal of the strategic review of 2006, is that we have made decent strides in the right direction. But we have still a fair bit to go.

I would take serious exception in his theory that "realistically" we are not in a position to win the Anglo Celt as further testimony that he does not believe in the ability of Antrim Football. I furiously reject this, and suggest that given the correct management and conditions, we could go a step further than Fermanagh who drew in the provincial decider last year.

The last Antrim team I was involved/in charge of beat Fermanagh by 12 points in an Ulster c`ship u-21 match three seasons ago.

The Doc can put any spin on it he likes, but when he starts to become more of a problem than a solution, (with regard to Antrim Football) then I will start to highlight this where and when possible.

Personally speaking, I feel he will soon be way out of his depth. There will be no hiding place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 13, 2008, 10:56:02 AM
good stuff bannside, i was also at works do, i couldn't even get out of the taxi!!!!

but you've managed to post your views about the county convention. i believe the county don't like the board as it has (most of the time) valid concerns or opinions, good bad or indifferent about the county board. the county board is elected by the members, thats me you and I'd say 99% of the other Antrim posters (don't think saffronsam pays his subs) so we can all have a view. forums will only get bigger, so Doc, get over it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Agree totally MR. A discussion board is just that, and can be used for highlighting positive news, as well as making our feelings known when stuff happens that simply shouldnt. If the board is properly moderated to prevent spiteful and personal "cheap shot" material, then it can actually be a useful tool as a proper barometer of public opinion.

As you say, we are mostly a collection of people who are part of the democracy that makes up our association. County Officials are elected by people like ourselves, and this discussion board, or something similar, will be in place long after those same officials have come and gone. But as long as they are really putting the work into their positions, and making progress, I would respect that. But I wont stand by and accept bullshit predictions like "lets be real, Antrim wont win the Anglo-Celt".

Its akin to Gerald Ratners famous quote that Ratners jewellery is crap - and look where he ended up after that!

Antrim Football has the most talented squad in a long long time, and this year we are in the easier half of the draw - so our ambitions must be to get over Donegal and then aim to win it. Personally i would like the Doctor to retract that stupid comment. Its totally out of order - or else he is totally out of touch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2008, 08:29:34 PM
Bannside while your optimism must be admired you also have to have a bit of realism.

We play Donegal in the first game and they're definitely not an unbeatable team. We will do well to beat them though and need a good league to get the confidence up to do just that. I believe if we have a good league we can put it to them.

Antrim could not realistically beat Tyrone, Armagh or Monaghan. If Derry got the finger out of their ass they'd not have the ability to beat them either but they'd have to do that.

If Antrim got to an Ulster final I'd be a very happy man. Obviously if you were to get there you'd want to win it. We're in division 4 - ulster title talk at present is just silly.

What I'd be very happy with promotion and a win over donegal then a couple of games in the qualifiers. We have a young team as of yet and if we got something like this it would really stand to them. Building a mentality of belief where they're not beat before they go out would be a good start. That's why Whitey got them a win against Down- belief more than anything else.

Ulster title talk is crazy. Mick McCann, McGourty etc etc are very good players. We don't have 15 at that standard though. You have to walk before you can run.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 14, 2008, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2008, 08:29:34 PM
Bannside while your optimism must be admired you also have to have a bit of realism.

We play Donegal in the first game and they're definitely not an unbeatable team. We will do well to beat them though and need a good league to get the confidence up to do just that. I believe if we have a good league we can put it to them.

Antrim could not realistically beat Tyrone, Armagh or Monaghan. If Derry got the finger out of their ass they'd not have the ability to beat them either but they'd have to do that.

If Antrim got to an Ulster final I'd be a very happy man. Obviously if you were to get there you'd want to win it. We're in division 4 - ulster title talk at present is just silly.

What I'd be very happy with promotion and a win over donegal then a couple of games in the qualifiers. We have a young team as of yet and if we got something like this it would really stand to them. Building a mentality of belief where they're not beat before they go out would be a good start. That's why Whitey got them a win against Down- belief more than anything else.

Ulster title talk is crazy. Mick McCann, McGourty etc etc are very good players. We don't have 15 at that standard though. You have to walk before you can run.
what you say (highlighted in bold) ITG is true 90% of the time.
But with a smattering of good players and great inventive intelligent thinking and gameplans to suit (covering over deficiancies and maximising/utilising strengths) a team that is meagre can go on to over achieve.
For every underachieving side, (Derry/Donegal/Dublin/Cork) you have teams that punch way above their weight (meath especially monaghan).
Indeed the farney men are the template here. It is open to debate whether tyrone have a panel whose individuals are as good as the Kerrys and other top squads. Monaghan def dont but produce top level championship performances though.
IMO Antrim have a comparable squad in terms of talent. Not sure if they have the complete mixe and thus a top notch sipne, but the little I have seen of yez and what I hear from reputable saffron football people leads me to believe you are in a position to 'do a monaghan'.
IMO it wont be under the current manager though. that isnt his forte. Hed do better with Dublin cork or kerry.
It starts with a dream and optimism.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 15, 2008, 09:50:34 AM
Bannside, are you sure your gripe with the doc isnt sour grapes!!!

;) ;)

are you a member of portglenone club, if so, why not go to a club meeting, thats where you can voice your concerns and maybe have something done about it, not on here at 4 in the morning!!!

the county football teams aim for next year is to win or get promoted from div 4, first and foremost.
after that we can have a go at donegal. yes i agree with some sentiments, if you think positive you will maybe get somewhere, but you do have to be realistic, we havent won an ulster championship match in quite a while.
to be able to play against even the lesser teams in ulster, we have to get out of div 4 and build from there, not on a one-off championship win.

firehill, i dont really care who you are, but to refer to some county panelists as retards is a bit unfair, they went to the trials & baker must have seen something that impressed him, do you not think they deserve a chance!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2008, 11:00:54 AM
Lynchbhoy I agree to a point and am just being realistic.

Looking at Fermanagh this year illustrates how much gaelic football is about tactics more than individuals.

Monaghan however are an excellent team and I don't believe we're at that level yet. I believe we need to build and Donegal is a realistic target to win.

I think you underestimate Monaghan and perceive them to be, for example, weaker than Derry. I do not. Gary McQuaid, Eoin Lennon, Paul Finlay, Damian and Tommy Freeman and for 50 minutes a game Rory Woods would walk on most teams out there. They'd be a step above us yet.

We can be better than Cavan, potentially Donegal and Down, potentially Fermanagh with a system. Monaghan , Derry and Armagh are a wee bit too much yet. That is me being optimistic BTW.

Mick McCann, Sean Kelly and CJ McGourty are class footballers. We then have some who are a level below that but are very good none the less. We have 5 or 6 spots not so good though. The Monaghan's etc of this world do not have that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 15, 2008, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 15, 2008, 11:00:54 AM
Lynchbhoy I agree to a point and am just being realistic.

Looking at Fermanagh this year illustrates how much gaelic football is about tactics more than individuals.

Monaghan however are an excellent team and I don't believe we're at that level yet. I believe we need to build and Donegal is a realistic target to win.

I think you underestimate Monaghan and perceive them to be, for example, weaker than Derry. I do not. Gary McQuaid, Eoin Lennon, Paul Finlay, Damian and Tommy Freeman and for 50 minutes a game Rory Woods would walk on most teams out there. They'd be a step above us yet.

We can be better than Cavan, potentially Donegal and Down, potentially Fermanagh with a system. Monaghan , Derry and Armagh are a wee bit too much yet. That is me being optimistic BTW.

Mick McCann, Sean Kelly and CJ McGourty are class footballers. We then have some who are a level below that but are very good none the less. We have 5 or 6 spots not so good though. The Monaghan's etc of this world do not have that.
I'd agree to a point, think you are looking at the revolutionised monaghan team, these players were not as 'good' prior to mcenaney taking over. The system has made them look good - they deserve it, but an equally smart system would also bring out the best in Antrim.
Otherwise they will remain underachieving ...
But your realistic view is the most likely outcome for th enear future imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2008, 02:14:02 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

On last year's performances we were ninth in Ulster so getting to fifth is very optimistic IMO. Ulster title talk just unrealistic/crazy.

Damien and Tommy Freeman always were class acts as was Finlay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on December 15, 2008, 02:35:22 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 15, 2008, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 15, 2008, 02:14:02 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.


The whole mindset in Antrim needs overhauled. Having lived in the county for 10 years now, what is most striking is the willingness to slag/berate/doubt management, committees, boards and anyone from another club. Every county has them on the odd corner but Antrim seem to be breeding them. I know of ex-Antrim footballers who won't go to watch the side because of something that happened a decade or so. Little things like that. Every new manager comes under immediate attack from some quarters. You have bannside here who needs to get drunk before slagging the current regime on here in the early hours of the morning. You have Kevin McGourty who won't play for the side, despite only having a 5 year career (including summers spent elsewhere) for reasons that don't actually make sense. You have a chairman who runs to the papers to complain about the complainers. Can you imagine chairmen of other boards even giving this board a second thought? Too many in the county are too busy trying to settle scores/start arguments. On three occasions in the last month, non-posters have commented to me about things posted on here, as if it's a big deal.

The pity is, Antrim have a core of players who know about winning titles but they haven't a hope in hell at county level of mimicking that because of the lack of a sense of everyone pulling together for the greater good. Small gestures mean a lot over time. Why didn't so many players play on last summer? Antrim are not above the Tommy Murphy Cup. The feuds get worse, heels are dug in and no one really cares. Maybe Baker Bradley will change things. Maybe he'll tell the players to cut the crap, unite for the county and grab the county board by the balls, holding up examples of what other county teams receive in terms of financial support. You have a county board that simply do not compare to others around them when it comes to treating its county teams with the professionalism needed, that's if they're serious about it.

The normal reaction to the above being written is 'what does he know; just because he's from Tyrone; his house will be burned in the morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 15, 2008, 04:16:55 PM
o'neill, your right!!
too many people in this county with crosses to carry, they think the county owes them or their club something.
its no use people coming on here, ranting and raving about we shouldnt be doing this or that, unless they have a decent alternative.
and theres no point coming on here to make a point, yes it is a discussion board, but you wont change a thing on here. join your clubs committee, express your views there and they can be filtered through to the county from there.
instead of people getting behind the team, their team, their county, they come on here wondering who proposed the new manager & call some of the panelists obscenities!!!
we are always doom and gloom, looking for someone to blame, we are abit like derry in that sense, but at least they get behind the team until it happens. we presume its going to happen before it does.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 15, 2008, 05:24:40 PM
Culchie, I have no personal axe to grind against the Doc. I think he has done a lot of good. I have consistently praised his regime as being a lot better than what went before. I would like him to be around to see out a lot of the action plans contained in the Strategic review undertaken by Liam O Kane - to date the most professional bit of work carried out in this county in a long time, by the current management committee, or any that went before it. Anyone serious about this county should have this document as a road map for the future.

The Doctor has brought a high degree of energy and ambition to the post, and that has to commended. Its only fair that this is properly acknowledged.

My concern is based on a personal belief that as a county performing at inter county level, the Doctor has not shown anywhere near enough of the same energy and enthusiasm, particularly for Football. I could cite handfuls of examples to support this argument - but this is not the place for washing out all the dirty linen. And of course its easy to pinpoint all the problems.

Sorry if this comes across as sour grapes - I have openly congratulated Baker and wish him and his team every success next year.  Now that he is in place, let the county chairman not dampen everyones enthusiasm by making it out that we are complete also rans.

We must raise the ambition levels. Where were Armagh 10 years ago. Or Tyrone for that matter. Medium rated counties at best - certainly not top tier. But they set out their stall properly -  and everyone bought into it. But it was led from the top.

Come on now Doctor, you are going into year four - its time to show the Football men of this county that you really mean it!

PS, Congratulations to Kevin Madden on the launch of his new business venture, Break For Ball. (The website is first class too. Well done Mhic Easmuint)



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 17, 2008, 12:56:00 PM
I see Paddy crozier has been appointed the new Cargin manager. I think he has an excellent channce to win his first championship as a manager. I get the feeling that St Galls have blown their load so to speak
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2008, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on December 17, 2008, 12:56:00 PM
I get the feeling that St Galls have blown their load so to speak

Why's that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 17, 2008, 03:52:31 PM
Well....Mc Gourty has said that he wants to see the rest of the world and that football is not the 'be all' ....and the younger was saying something similair. Taking that into account and the assessing the way they folded against Cavan Gaels makes me think they are more vulnerable than they have been for a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 17, 2008, 07:02:47 PM
sure Creagan had that other Ex Derry manager and they are a major force ;)

Paddy Crozier is a great signing for Cargin, whats his Club record like Max?

plenty of football left at Milltown Row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 17, 2008, 11:49:32 PM
fair play to Madden but will his venture be  a sucesss? im not so sure

£85 per head per night is pricy enough for a basic package in the current economic climate.

Although this service would take the organisation off the shoulders of the 1/2 men in most clubs who take on such roles usually with little help from the majority
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on December 18, 2008, 07:27:03 AM
Got a look at the new experimental rules last night for the 09 NHL/HFL, jesus its a nightmare! Any opinions on this lads, would,nt fancy being a ref this season. MR whats your opinion on these?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2008, 08:32:14 AM
Gold, Id say £85 quid per head would be money well spent. I can see a lot of progressive clubs (or county teams) making use of all these facilities under one roof. What kind of player wouldnt be prepared to pay for this, or pay some of the costs. If you played golf, or were a skier, or followed a soccer team every week, or even followed your county team around the country, it would cost a helluva lot more.

Id say in the cases of clubs, some clubs might subsidise the costs, leaving the player with a bit less to fork out.

It would depend on the ambition of the club or the individual to better itself. Can see Breakforball being a real hit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 18, 2008, 08:46:58 AM
Not to put a dampner on this venture Bannside but I think most clubs already have contacts that they would use to organise this type of trip. Plus then they would have prefered places to stay and team to play in challenge games. I think that for the sake of a few phone calls most clubs could do this cheaper than the price. Take a normal squad that is working out at roughly 3K. Expensive for a training weekend.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 18, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
85 quid is a bit much to go on a weekends rip!!!   :-\
realistically thats what it is!!!

any club could organise a friendly, go paintballing, etc. themsleves!!
sure its like going on a package holiday, its always going to be cheaper if you book everything yourself!!
just because of who it is thats came up with the idea, i wouldnt be jumping to the front of the que to be going on it!!

any other managerial positions filled in div 1.

whos taking over at creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 18, 2008, 11:48:56 AM
Most clubs would be able to organise this a lot cheaper than "Break The Ball". Do they offer anything that would not ordinarily be available for clubs? Obviously it is being run as a money making venture but it seems pretty expensive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on December 18, 2008, 02:25:48 PM
Comment from BFB
"The unique selling point of break for ball is that clubs will not purchase the accomodation any cheaper by booking directly with the hotel. The level or service e.g. High profile coaches, video analysis, access to pitch facilities, access to specialists in areas such as strength and conditioning and nutrition are things that most club teams would have difficulty in organising for their weekend. The media training is an option, but more likely to be availed of by top clubs and county teams. Breakforball established that there is a demand for such a service by surveying over 50 clubs, 95percent of whom indicated they would use the service. The pricing structure was based on the information that clubs relayed on the questionnaires. "
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 18, 2008, 02:57:49 PM
Im not sure what sort of impact media would have for the ordinary club which would be using this service?
In reality there are only a limited number of counties and the club scene is the biggest market.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 18, 2008, 11:21:30 PM
Quote from: davincicode on December 18, 2008, 07:27:03 AM
Got a look at the new experimental rules last night for the 09 NHL/HFL, jesus its a nightmare! Any opinions on this lads, would,nt fancy being a ref this season. MR whats your opinion on these?

brought this topic up ages ago, think it will be a nightmare, the Monaghan boss pointed out a fatal flaw right away, you put on a dummy to wind someone up (their best player) and both get yellow cards, they replace their best player with a dummy and you bring on your best player.

if a certain team have a free taker who hits 8-10 points per game and he is yellow carded because it was tactical by the other team, then i dont see it as being fair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mattockranger on December 20, 2008, 03:35:11 PM
Hi lads just wondering what you make of the new additions to the antrim squad....especially the johnnies boys
A douglas and mcglinchey

there must be a large player base 14 is a large turnover of new players i know in louth that would be impossible!
and you are like us also some players not involved for external reasons....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 21, 2008, 11:53:53 AM
Personally speaking I think big Mc Glinch has possibly the best hands in Antrim. Definitely in the squad on merit. Go very close to a place on first 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 21, 2008, 12:05:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 21, 2008, 11:53:53 AM
Personally speaking I think big Mc Glinch has possibly the best hands in Antrim. Definitely in the squad on merit. Go very close to a place on first 15.

would need to get fit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 21, 2008, 08:58:01 PM
Definitely MR. But could create some havoc on the edge of the square!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 22, 2008, 11:53:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2008, 10:00:31 PM
Cargin News:

Just in: Crozier.

Heard today JC Devlin is to manage Aldergrove this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 23, 2008, 09:06:29 AM
Now theres a meeting of minds  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 23, 2008, 09:43:03 AM
Any other managerial appointments?!?!?

heard from a very good source Paul McIvor, Brians son, is taking creggan next year!
i thought crozier just had to be confirmed at cargin, but i see they have ad in Irish news today!
is downey going another year with portglenone!
wee james will be with galls, st johns & st brigids probably be the same!
our management team from last year dont look like going again!! :-\

bannside you any jobs in pipeline?

what does everyone think about underage league being pushed to go all county?!?
me personally, i think the south west leagues work really well, if its not broke dont fix it!!
dont know how the south antrim leagues work, heard they struggle!!
i just think to play all county at underage, with travelling etc it will end up with loads of fixtures not being played!!
plus the fact all the teams in the south west have their own pitches is a big factor in my opinion for south west to remain in place!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on December 23, 2008, 11:15:10 AM
Pushing the SW and NA clubs into all county leagues at underage is trying to put a bandaid on the scar of underage development in Belfast.

They are attempting to drag belfast up by using the good structures and facilities which the SW and NA have developed (while the belfast clubs sat on their asses and were happy to remain as social clubs rather than GAA clubs) but in fact what they will only acheive is dragging the SW and NA down. If they want to do something to develop the Belfast structures they need to look deeper than this quick fix and get to the root of the problem and sort it out root and branch.

Let the successful boards continue to develop twinned with revamping belfast and getting their clubs to an acceptable standard they we can look at all county leagues because then they will be worth it and not just an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 24, 2008, 01:47:40 AM
JC a great scoop for Aldergrove. Nag, the best total football and disciplined football Cargin ever played was under JC.

St Brigids def not the same - Conor Mc Sherry away to home town Coalisland.

What about yourselves, Culchie?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 24, 2008, 08:51:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 24, 2008, 01:47:40 AM
JC a great scoop for Aldergrove. Nag, the best total football and disciplined football Cargin ever played was under JC.

St Brigids def not the same - Conor Mc Sherry away to home town Coalisland.

What about yourselves, Culchie?

no appointment yet bannside, last years management team arent running again!!!
open for nominations!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 24, 2008, 10:08:49 AM
culchy11 talk of brian white taking ports as late as yesterday a/noon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 24, 2008, 10:18:53 AM
Quote from: hightower on December 24, 2008, 10:08:49 AM
culchy11 talk of brian white taking ports as late as yesterday a/noon

where you hear that?
a cracker!!!
:D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: littleoak on December 24, 2008, 05:16:47 PM
what u guys know of an odran o kane think he took antrim minors for a spell anyone know anything about him? :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 26, 2008, 11:25:41 AM
going as a two man team, him and delargy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on December 28, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
whitey and delargy has to be a wind up!  would be some management team but.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 29, 2008, 11:06:15 PM
I would genuinely think that the Ports would be much better off with Delargey on his own. Whitey seems to have lost things a bit after a disappointing spell with Rossa and two big hitters has rarely worked in the past (Carr & Kane at Down, McRory & McKenna at Tyrone and Coleman & McGuckin in Derry to name but three examples of failed managerial teams)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 31, 2008, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 29, 2008, 11:06:15 PM
I would genuinely think that the Ports would be much better off with Delargey on his own. Whitey seems to have lost things a bit after a disappointing spell with Rossa and two big hitters has rarely worked in the past (Carr & Kane at Down, McRory & McKenna at Tyrone and Coleman & McGuckin in Derry to name but three examples of failed managerial teams)
the two brians at armagh did feck all too

I'd agree, co-management doesnt work (have first hand exp of this and its frustrating)
Delargy would be better off using his own talent rather than pitching in with someone
imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 31, 2008, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 29, 2008, 11:06:15 PM
I would genuinely think that the Ports would be much better off with Delargey on his own. Whitey seems to have lost things a bit after a disappointing spell with Rossa and two big hitters has rarely worked in the past (Carr & Kane at Down, McRory & McKenna at Tyrone and Coleman & McGuckin in Derry to name but three examples of failed managerial teams)

Art and eugene won an Ulster championship  as did the two Brians...now lads that is not faulure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 31, 2008, 02:35:27 PM
Anyone any ideas on how the team is going to line out on sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 31, 2008, 02:48:31 PM
might head down, Armagh aint to far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 31, 2008, 02:52:30 PM
Art & Eugene and the two Brians will be forgot about Max. They are probably viewed to have underachieved.

They did provide a good platform for teams to go on and win the AI though.(Not sure everyone would share that view though)

I would generally concur that two big managers won't work though.

Also Portglenone are a club that I respect however the age of their team is an age of a team that will probably get worse before it gets better. Gerard McAleese and Paddy Carey aside I've not seen any talent which is currently under the age of 27/28 come through and make it.

With the standard of club football currently they should be fit to make the 3rd best team for the short term though but I don't see them moving upwards. They're a good bit short of Cargin / St Galls. Creggan would be on considerably more of an upward spiral than them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 31, 2008, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on December 31, 2008, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 29, 2008, 11:06:15 PM
I would genuinely think that the Ports would be much better off with Delargey on his own. Whitey seems to have lost things a bit after a disappointing spell with Rossa and two big hitters has rarely worked in the past (Carr & Kane at Down, McRory & McKenna at Tyrone and Coleman & McGuckin in Derry to name but three examples of failed managerial teams)

Art and eugene won an Ulster championship  as did the two Brians...now lads that is not faulure.
both sets left their county panels in disaray and in the case of armagh - huge infighting and disillusionment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 31, 2008, 08:54:09 PM
Happy New Year to all Truly Genuine Antrim Football Followers.

Sometimes we overstep the mark, call it wrong, go on here worse for the wear, make friends, make enemies. Sometimes we laugh, Sometimes we dont laugh, Sometimes we`re high ( St Galls beating Nemo) Sometimes we`re low (Remember Waterford).

Sometimes we think the Doc is top man ( centre of excellence, Club Aontroma, Strategic report, Racedays. and energy unknown.)Sometimes we think he needs to show he REALLY cares about Football.

How many on here feel that done right, we should be the equals of Fermanagh, at the very least. ( Well done to them). Division Two and within ONE point of an Anglo Celt. Its time to applaud Fermanagh, and then to match/beat them. As an initial first target.

In just over an hour we pass into a new season. Lets get behind the county, the management, and all the players, and wish them all the very best for 09. Everything IS possible. Who knows, we might even get the "Doctor" to buy in!

Lets make it a good one.








Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 01, 2009, 09:42:31 AM
Happy New Year to all Antrim Gaels - onwards and upwards from Div 4 is the main goal for 2009.  A few good results in the McKenna Cup would be a nice start though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on January 01, 2009, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 01, 2009, 07:28:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 31, 2008, 08:54:09 PM
Sometimes we`re low (Remember Waterford).
You're a sick b**tard. "Here, Brits, do you remember Dunkirk?"

  What are you all talking about here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 02, 2009, 04:45:42 PM
training session in Toome today. i wonder how it went. any of our posters get any feedback from Bradleys first offical training session?  who turned up and what excuses where used for the ones who didn't?

oh hardstation, you can be funny here also ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on January 04, 2009, 01:04:45 AM
heard mcglinchey was sick after the warm up... 

i dont know about anyone else but id be surprised if we get within 9 tomo....  squad is the weakest ive ever seen!!! you look at the established players and yes their all sound but the newcomers (apart from paddy carey) id be very worried about .. paddy cunningham scored 11 pts off douglas a few years back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 04, 2009, 04:37:01 PM
antrim beat by 2, not a bad start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 04, 2009, 05:29:15 PM
poor first half, we only scored 3 points. I'd say the conditions were perfect for football this time of year. better return in second half, i believe we had a lot of the play got level at 8 each but let Armagh pull away. its a problem the past Antrim teams have. hopefully we can turn the screw on the other teams when we are in the ascendancy instead of panicing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mattockranger on January 04, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
wat was antrims line up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 04, 2009, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: mattockranger on January 04, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
wat was antrims line up?

Armagh 0.12 Antrim 0.10

After trailing 0.06 .0.03 at half time Antrim lifted their game in the second half the run the Ulster Champions close.But for a bit of luck the result could have been so different,but none the less a heartening preformance for the 4th Jan.

Antrim Footballers had a formidable task in hand today, when they met Division One opponents, from the Orchard County, in their own back-yard; the Athletic Grounds in Armagh. Whilst some might argue that 2009 may have got off to a very 'short-notice first event', in terms of preparation time, it has to be said the conditions today were match favourable, except perhaps for the irritation of a pale and blinding winter sun. There were encouraging aspects to the game today, new playing rules notwithstanding. New Antrim Manager Liam Bradley was very much in evidence and whilst he has had little real opportunity to experiment it was patently clear that his fresh approach demonstrates a determination to accentuate the positive. Come what may he is clearly not a man to allow grass to grow beneath his feet; I think that it is fair to say watch this space. 
    Whilst Armagh never really looked threatened today it can be said that they had luck on their side, on more than one occasion. Antrim were unfortunate not to have scored at least one and arguably two good goals on the day. Again Antrim were competitive, in bursts, and won their chances to add points but it was not to be today. It is early in the season to pick out players for individual praise but it has to be said that there were encouraging signs of some real determination within the new Antrim squad. Gerard Mc Aleese was focused, determined and on target. Ciaran Close, was yet again reliable and determined although he had to come off eventually in consequence of injury. Tony Scullion, again and again and as is his hallmark drives directly at opponents with vigour and determination; he is an inspiration for his sustained determination on the field of play. Darragh Edwards made a significant claim to the number 11 Jersey today, wearing it as though he intended to stay on board.
    All in all Antrim put on a determined display and against formidable odds carried the day with dignity. There was evidence, as to be expected, of the greater experience of some seasoned Armagh players. Names like O' Rourke, Clarke and Mc Keever don't lie down or roll over but the experience of playing against them has to be a positive one for Antrim players.   

Antrim
1. Sean McGreevy 2.Aaron Douglas 3.Sean McVeigh 4.Colin Brady 5.Tony Scullion 6.Paddy Carey 7.Conor McGoldrick 8.Micheal McCann 9.Martin McCarry 10.David McAlernon 12.Dara Edwards 12.Aodhan Gallagher 13.Ciaran Close 14.Michael Magill 15.Gerard McAleese

Substitutes: Conor Creaney for A. Gallagher (yellow card), Benny Hasson for M. Magill (yellow card), Liam Carlin for C. McGoldrick, Conor Maxwell for C. Brady (injured), Kevin Brady for D. McAlernon and Donal Graham for C. Close (injured).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 06, 2009, 09:03:22 AM
good performance by antrim in second half by all accounts!!
can only bode well for the incoming season, a win against cavan on sunday would go down well.
if we can get to that standard for a full match.
i know it wasnt a full strength armagh but to compete with any armagh team isnt bad.

not many comments on match!!
if we had been stuffed, this thread would have been bouncing, looking for the doc & bakers head!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
Agreed Culchie!

Sounds like promising debuts from McAleese / Edwards. Don't know much about Edwards but if McAleese bulked up he could be decent.

It wasn't a full strength Armagh but wasn't a full strength Antrim either.

I'd be interested to know how some of the other debutants got on. Always thought McAlernon was a tidy footballer.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2009, 10:41:39 AM
Credit where its due. Throw in two open goals missed, and we could have been looking at a very decent start under the new management. Plenty of positives to take out of it.

Baker/Conway both steeped in football, in the real hot bed that is Derry Club Football. Both passionate around any team they would be involved with. Throw in the fact that Paddy Mc Neill will get any player fit that really wants to, and collectively its a lot more promising than anything I ever thought Jody would offer. Best of luck to them.

Jody was a complete punt, with no relative experience at all of inter county management. It was a complete disgrace that in two years he couldnt get Antrim out of division four. His dressing room was well and truly lost long ago, and he treated the u-21`s with complete contempt.

But its public knowledge that apart from a disagreement over a "retainer" during the close season, Jody was for getting another year at the helm.

What exactly does that tell you about the aspirations and ambitions our county chairman has for the proper development of Antrim at inter county level.

My own opinion is that he sees it as a complete distraction, and has no belief in our players to make any real impact.

I totally disagree. The type of players coming through now are good enough to win an Ulster in the next two years. I have total belief in this generation, and would have worked with the vast majority of them at some stage.

But not if we cant get the simple things right like getting Jordanstown booked in time. (What a joke). Dont even get me started on that one.

Sure the facilities at Eaton Park would be a lot cheaper, wouldnt they?

Read between the lines lads!  I could post all day on this subject.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 06, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
QuoteThe type of players coming through now are good enough to win an Ulster in the next two years.

Are you serious?  I doubt that Antrim have the 'type of players' to win Ulster, and I am sure that these 'type of players' were there and playing against the like of Waterford, and getting beat.  It's easy to blame JG for not lifting Antrim from Division 4, but its the players on the pitch who ultimately had to do the job - did they not have to get a point or a win just from their last 2 league games last year?  New managers always bring a certain optimism, and Bakers appointment obviously has increased the expectations but too much should not be read into Sundays result or performance - an Antrim side highly motivated and out to impress the new management were up against an Armagh side that was in 3rd gear.  Was nothing learnt from the Walsh Cup this time last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2009, 11:11:03 AM
I agree with Nrico, this kind of talk does nobody any favours. What can you base a statement like that on Bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2009, 11:34:09 AM
Bannside I like to be positive about things but there is just no way in the world that Antrim have the players to, in 2 years, win an ulster title.

We haven't got a strong ball winning midfielder - Michael McCann is a very good ball playing midfielder - we don't have a good full back line and the good forwards we have need a lot of weight training. You can't win an ulster - or close - with that.

It's good to see younger players playing sigerson and the 22/23 year olds we have are of good quality but ulster no.

Remember fermanagh got to league semis and ai semis. There's experience in their team.

We need to try to get to the top 5 in ulster. That's a positive step. Currently we're 9.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2009, 11:41:25 AM
Minder, you are far too quick off the mark there.

I base my assertion on the fact that there are much better types of young players coming through than ever before.

Are you asking me to provide a bit more detail on this?

And Nrico, what exactly do you know about the new generation of Antrim senior Footballers that allows you to say with such certainty that they dont posess the talent necessary for a real tilt in the next two years?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2009, 11:44:33 AM
Bannside what have they done and minor and u21 to show this??

Granted last years u21 was a farce and not entirely down to the players.

The best we can say though is that had we had Crozier and McGourty in the u21 a few years ago we COULD have beat tyrone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 11:47:14 AM
fecking hell lads, you dont have to have the talent of kerryin order to win a few games.
Cavan in 97 were poor enough but won an ulster - prob due to new coaching, discipline and selection from motivated manager martin whingeface mchugh.
IMO Tyrone without Mickey harte would be sliding into div 2 and back where they came from very quickly.
(they also dont have a midfielder it would seem,in any of all their Ireland wins but they cope well without it based on different ball winning strategies)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 06, 2009, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 11:47:14 AM
fecking hell lads, you dont have to have the talent of kerryin order to win a few games.
Cavan in 97 were poor enough but won an ulster - prob due to new coaching, discipline and selection from motivated manager martin whingeface mchugh.
IMO Tyrone without Mickey harte would be sliding into div 2 and back where they came from very quickly.
(they also dont have a midfielder it would seem,in any of all their Ireland wins but they cope well without it based on different ball winning strategies)

Jez LB you still in dream land. Tyrone senior team is based on a group of players who won 1 All Ireland minor and 2 U21 All Ireland titles, also Cavan got to the fibal of the u21 All Ireland in 96, and also the Ulster senior final of 95 before 97 arrived. Any team that i see who has won anything has some underage success in the process.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 06, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
look boys, as i have said before if we can start competing with teams for 60 mins it will be a very positive step!!
then kick on from there, you have to learn how to compete for the hour first.
you cant expect to beat a team by playing for 15 or 20 mins in a match!!

the cavan game will tell us more, its one i hope and expect us to win!!

i hear sean mcveigh had a superb game at full back, would like to see how big benny hasson and mick would play together!!
mick has a great footballing brain.
alot of positives to take out of sundays match.
with cj, sean kelly, paddy cunningham, andy mcclean and a few more due back for the league, makes good reading!!

bannside what do you make of the idea of all county minor and u16 leagues!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: amigo on January 06, 2009, 12:12:59 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on January 06, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
look boys, as i have said before if we can start competing with teams for 60 mins it will be a very positive step!!
then kick on from there, you have to learn how to compete for the hour first.
you cant expect to beat a team by playing for 15 or 20 mins in a match!!

the cavan game will tell us more, its one i hope and expect us to win!!

i hear sean mcveigh had a superb game at full back, would like to see how big benny hasson and mick would play together!!
mick has a great footballing brain.
alot of positives to take out of sundays match.
with cj, sean kelly, paddy cunningham, andy mcclean and a few more due back for the league, makes good reading!!

bannside what do you make of the idea of all county minor and u16 leagues!!


I thought all county games were 70 mins!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2009, 12:15:07 PM
Max, Bellaghy dont win much at juvenile level, but that dosent stop them producing decent senior teams!

Also, just because we havent actually WON silverware at juvenile - u-21 level, dosent mean that there werent some seriously good results/performances along the way. Do I need to go into a bit more detail on this to justify this?

My model/template is still Fermanagh.

Did Mickey Culberts team not play them off the pitch in Enniskillen a few years ago. Still a mystery how we lost that one.

But Fermanagh football gets lit up by a top class management team of O Rourke/McBride, and in their first year get within one point of a first ever Anglo-Celt. You can bet your life Fermanagh will be stronger this year for that experience.

Whats more, O Rourke gets total support, backing and approval for a whole list of pre conditions, designed to allow Fermanagh a level playing field in terms of proper preparation on a Tyrone/Armagh scale.

What did we get?

A manager totally un-proven and out of his depth at this level, and a county chairman who didnt/dosent buy in to Antrim Football at all.
And still dosent.

We get what we deserve gentlemen. We are last in Ulster because we havent the mindset to think any different. Its time to change that.

This generation will take us to a higher level than ever before, if they are treated properly. And I dont mean at Eaton Park, or with self installed floodlights at Woodlands. Or with u-21 managers who dont give a toss. Or a Chairman who cant see this.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 06, 2009, 12:22:02 PM


I thought all county games were 70 mins!!
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same shit different shovel!!
away and find your other 2 mates!!! ;)

u21 management team this year is john mcneill, mickey johnston & a fella mckenna from the city think hes st johns(not sure if got his name right).


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 06, 2009, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 11:47:14 AM
fecking hell lads, you dont have to have the talent of kerryin order to win a few games.
Cavan in 97 were poor enough but won an ulster - prob due to new coaching, discipline and selection from motivated manager martin whingeface mchugh.
IMO Tyrone without Mickey harte would be sliding into div 2 and back where they came from very quickly.
(they also dont have a midfielder it would seem,in any of all their Ireland wins but they cope well without it based on different ball winning strategies)

Jez LB you still in dream land. Tyrone senior team is based on a group of players who won 1 All Ireland minor and 2 U21 All Ireland titles, also Cavan got to the fibal of the u21 All Ireland in 96, and also the Ulster senior final of 95 before 97 arrived. Any team that i see who has won anything has some underage success in the process.
....so their previous u21 successes, what were they
Derry won u21, minors etc where did that lead
cork and laois have won minor, u21 - still no big sign of either doing fcuk all
plenty more examples of teams that win minor and u21 and end up doing nothing in senior to more or less conclude that tyrones minor and u21 wins were almost co-incidental ! Sure wasnt the star of a couple of those teams Gerard cavlan who couldnt get his starting place on the senior side...
Derrys minor win in 89 yielded just two on the senior AI winning 93 side.... hardly compelling evidence
Donegal had nothing to draw from...Likewise dublin....

I still say that a good manager will maximise the resources at his disposal. Fermanagh and monaghan would be prime examples along with tyrone
imo


think its you doing the day dreaming max !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: amigo on January 06, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 06, 2009, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 11:47:14 AM
fecking hell lads, you dont have to have the talent of kerryin order to win a few games.
Cavan in 97 were poor enough but won an ulster - prob due to new coaching, discipline and selection from motivated manager martin whingeface mchugh.
IMO Tyrone without Mickey harte would be sliding into div 2 and back where they came from very quickly.
(they also dont have a midfielder it would seem,in any of all their Ireland wins but they cope well without it based on different ball winning strategies)

Jez LB you still in dream land. Tyrone senior team is based on a group of players who won 1 All Ireland minor and 2 U21 All Ireland titles, also Cavan got to the fibal of the u21 All Ireland in 96, and also the Ulster senior final of 95 before 97 arrived. Any team that i see who has won anything has some underage success in the process.
....so their previous u21 successes, what were they
Derry won u21, minors etc where did that lead
cork and laois have won minor, u21 - still no big sign of either doing fcuk all
plenty more examples of teams that win minor and u21 and end up doing nothing in senior to more or less conclude that tyrones minor and u21 wins were almost co-incidental ! Sure wasnt the star of a couple of those teams Gerard cavlan who couldnt get his starting place on the senior side...
Derrys minor win in 89 yielded just two on the senior AI winning 93 side.... hardly compelling evidence
Donegal had nothing to draw from...Likewise dublin....

I still say that a good manager will maximise the resources at his disposal. Fermanagh and monaghan would be prime examples along with tyrone
imo


think its you doing the day dreaming max !


Cavlan was not a member of the All Ireland Winning under-age teams. He was well over age at that stage!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 06, 2009, 12:51:04 PM
Lb, you have just affirmed my point. 95% of all teams that won at senior have a number of players who have won at either minor or u21 level in their province or All Ireland level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 06, 2009, 12:51:04 PM
Lb, you have just affirmed my point. 95% of all teams that won at senior have a number of players who have won at either minor or u21 level in their province or All Ireland level.
how have I
the point anyhow is - that winning minor and/or u21 provides a huge percentage of a county team that goes on to win an All Ireland senior

the examples given prove the opposite....

please think before you post things !
:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 06, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Cavlan was not a member of the All Ireland Winning under-age teams. He was well over age at that stage!!
this is just from memory - but was cavlan not a minor in 1993 , and then on the u21 side in 96?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 06, 2009, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 06, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Cavlan was not a member of the All Ireland Winning under-age teams. He was well over age at that stage!!
this is just from memory - but was cavlan not a minor in 1993 , and then on the u21 side in 96?

Thats correct LB.  Cavlan was a minor in 93.  That team didnt win the AI as they were tanked by Meath in the AI semi-final.  The minor team of 97-98 that produced so many that went on to win senior medals was in a different league talent wise.  Both teams were managed by Harte.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tyrone86 on January 06, 2009, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2009, 12:15:07 PM
Max, Bellaghy dont win much at juvenile level, but that dosent stop them producing decent senior teams!

Also, just because we havent actually WON silverware at juvenile - u-21 level, dosent mean that there werent some seriously good results/performances along the way. Do I need to go into a bit more detail on this to justify this?

My model/template is still Fermanagh.

Did Mickey Culberts team not play them off the pitch in Enniskillen a few years ago. Still a mystery how we lost that one.

But Fermanagh football gets lit up by a top class management team of O Rourke/McBride, and in their first year get within one point of a first ever Anglo-Celt. You can bet your life Fermanagh will be stronger this year for that experience.

Whats more, O Rourke gets total support, backing and approval for a whole list of pre conditions, designed to allow Fermanagh a level playing field in terms of proper preparation on a Tyrone/Armagh scale.

What did we get?

A manager totally un-proven and out of his depth at this level, and a county chairman who didnt/dosent buy in to Antrim Football at all.
And still dosent.

We get what we deserve gentlemen. We are last in Ulster because we havent the mindset to think any different. Its time to change that.

This generation will take us to a higher level than ever before, if they are treated properly. And I dont mean at Eaton Park, or with self installed floodlights at Woodlands. Or with u-21 managers who dont give a toss. Or a Chairman who cant see this.



Ah, but to go back to an earlier debate on this thread, St Michael's Enniskillen have been consistently challenging at MacRory level since 1999. Ergo, they have some level of tradition and success which has been able to be carried forward. Jesus, when a chancer like Mulgrew can take them to an All-Ireland Semi Final there has to be some degree of ability there.

However, another point that has to be looked at, how many of the Antrim Minors of 97/98 - both of which got to Ulster Finals against the best Minor teams to ever come out of Tyrone - are still playing at county level now, the time at which they would be expected to be in their peak?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
A few quick facts which might assist those who clearly dont have sufficient knowledge of the new emerging and confident players that are presenting themselves for duty at senior level.

Take the 1985`s. Now mostly aged 23.

As sixteen year olds they had a fantastic season, in a very competitive Buncrana cup. They beat Down by 2, Armagh by 14 (away) Monaghan by 2 (away) and a semi final victory against Raymund Munroes Tyrone, by 11 (away). Lost to Derry in the final. Most of those Derry players won all ireland minor medals in due course.

When this year group became available for u-21 a few years later, I had the priviledge of linking up with them again. Quite a few of them were prominent when Antrim lost to Armagh, in Crossmaglen, by three points.

Armagh beat Derry by 14 in that years Ulster final, and went on to win the All Ireland u-21 crown. We gave them one of their closest matches. I will let you decide if the missing Paul Doherty, Michael Magill, or Karl Stewart could have made up the shortcoming that year.

Two years later, with the 1985`s in their final year, a big push was on to go all the way. We beat Fermanagh by 12 in the first round. our next match is away to Tyrone. Nepotism and sheer in-competence (thats another story) permit Crozier and CJ (as ITG correctly pointed out) to miss an Ulster semi final which was most winnable.

We lose by 2, and Tyrone lift Ulster but narrowly lose their semi final by a point in extra time.

I will let you decide whether or not this year group was good enough, or not, at full strength to go all the way, and win that seasons All Ireland. I have absolutely no doubt they were. More importantly, the players knew it as well.

(Obviously the Doctor wasnt reading it right either or he would have insisted on CJ and Croziers availability). How good would that have been to sell Saffron Sweep tickets?

That year group includes Mc Clean, Mc Cann, Cunningham, and Niblock from last years seniors. Now to great to see Carey, Mc Alernon and Conor Mc Goldrick step up, as well as big Mc Glinchey.

Now if this group had won an all -ireland, we would be talking about them forever being as being the bedrock of Antrim football for years. But they were robbed by poor leadership, and by now their exploits at under-age level have almost been forgotten.

We should be thinking of entering into a golden era for Antrim Football, and in the next two/three years we should be in a very healthy position. Think St Galls and Kilmacud etc, and its plain we have the ability to get to a much higher level.

But we must give this generation, and its management every available resource.

Annual rant over!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2009, 02:18:18 PM
Culchie11, an answer to your question re all county juvenile leagues.

I would be completely open to the idea, on a one year trial basis.

I think above all else our juveniles need proper meaningful matches. How else can St Johns great u-14 hurling or football teams from last year progress, unless they get quality matches on a regular basis? And I think there some class acts on that team.  Likewise last years Leamh Deargs U -16`s. Some class acts all over the pitch. Further evidence Antrim are starting to produce top quality individuals.

We have a duty to harness this properly. How can some of these players train properly in the knowledge that their next game will be called off, the other team dosent turn up, the pitch is unavailable, the referee forgets about it, or their is the obligatory free for all.

Im all for Quality over Quantity. Get the best eight teams into each all county division - not an exact science, I accept - and let them have fourteen decent quality meaningful games, at least.

Versus the three or four probable quality/meaningful matches they might otherwise get.

With conditions though.

Proper individual registration cards, birth certificate baked, to stamp out any foul play.

Up front league entry fees to be paid by all teams.

Code of conduct signed off by all clubs and players, and especially over zealous win at all cost managers. ( I had a very nasty experience at this years all county og sport final ).

Financial penalties to all clubs who dont field on time.

A sub committee of three or four independent observers who attend matches to make sure the experiment works.

In short, the idea has potential to work, or potential for disaster - depending on how it is sold to/entered into by the clubs, and how it is policed. Discipline must be the key, and thats why  South-West leagues are so strong.

But only on a trial basis. It cant be used as a cop out for South Antrim administrators who up to now have failed miserably to put their house in order.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 06, 2009, 02:18:37 PM
Agree with Bannside. His optimism is something that should be instilled in the players. Feck the begrudgers and give it a good rattle this year.

Had considered going through the teamsheet with thoughts etc but too busy!

A bite more steel in the full back line required (though I agree that McVeigh had a good game this was mainly when Clarke was out as a third midfielder)
With the guile of Sean Kelly to come in, Loughrey, McCann, Cunnigham, Crozier and maybe CJ to come back, there is a bit of hope.
Mick McCann is a super player. In my opinion if he was that 10% more direct he would be top notch. But a great player nonetheless.
Agree about McAleese, he'll get beaten round the park but if he bulks up slowly but he may have alot to offer.
Edwards looks a strong addition and if Hasson can be worked on he certainly looks dangerous. Hasson does have great speed on the ball and with a few finishers round him he could do rightly.

Think Antrim's problem on Sunday was in the final straight, which is the perennial problem.
They had a free to go ahead at one point, missed that free and from there Armagh banged over 4 points.
Then when chasing the game if they had taken their points they wouldn't have been too far away.
A bit of self-belief and balls to be instilled by Bradley etc and perhaps cuteness from Conway.

No one can deny that it wasn't a bad start.
Onwards!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
another example of teams not winning but providing the 'bedrock' from an example clost to my own exp was the kildare minor side of 87.
That team , much was expected of - as the prev years side won leinster and were narrowly beaten in ai semi final by eventual winners down.
There were players such as Lynch, Doyle, Finn, Gilroy, Quinn, Donlan who went on to the kildare senior panel and were mostly all stalwarts as the county in 1998 got to its first AI final for a long time and were unluckily beaten by galway.

they were there or thereabouts for a couple of years, long before the back door came into play and allowed the fluke type teams such as wexford and fermanagh to progress to semi and quarter finals

another example of a manager(ODwyer) making a silk purse out of a sows ear which is becoming more and more or a requirement these days - contrary to what max thinks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 06, 2009, 02:56:49 PM
some good points bannside!
i think it will benefit south antrim more as south west already have good structures and leagues in place.
its not an easy one, as it has been tried before as winter league for minors & didnt do well!!
i agree its not fair to hold back the south antrim teams who it could benefit, but the others who wont field after half a season are the ones who will wreck it!!

sure didnt st endas try to join north antrim and south west last year!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2009, 03:45:21 PM
Aye Culchie 11. St Endas won SW u -12 league at the first time of asking, but got beaten in all county final by St Johns.

Need to get regular matches of quality to compete with very well organised juvenile soccer leagues, South Belfast and Lisburn Invitational youth leagues.

Traditionally we lose a lot of Belfast juveniles at in these formative years, because it is considered that soccer leagues are properly and consistently organised. Time for Gaelic Games to show these lads, often the better types, that we can run a good show as well.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 06, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Only read last few threads, so apologies if restating/missing points made.


Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2009, 12:15:07 PM
My model/template is still Fermanagh.

Did Mickey Culberts team not play them off the pitch in Enniskillen a few years ago. Still a mystery how we lost that one.

But Fermanagh football gets lit up by a top class management team of O Rourke/McBride, and in their first year get within one point of a first ever Anglo-Celt. You can bet your life Fermanagh will be stronger this year for that experience.

Whats more, O Rourke gets total support, backing and approval for a whole list of pre conditions, designed to allow Fermanagh a level playing field in terms of proper preparation on a Tyrone/Armagh scale.


Fermanagh were knocking on the door for a long time before o rourke came in. It was the next step in their progression, but its fallacy to suggest they made massive gains last year.

Antrim could have won that game in Enniskillen, but it wasn't that much of a great escape, and the awful conditions contributed to it being tight. Its exactly the type of game fermanagh were playing against bigger opposition and losing 10 yrs ago. It been a long road for fermanagh, from all ireland bs in the mid 90s, and putting up strong opposition to good teams (taking eventual ulster champions to a replay in 1997 i think it was), and doing it consistently, then getting wins in the qualifiers, notably a few against meath, and against mayo - big teams. This was all while doing well in the league, dom got fermanagh to both a league semi and a ai quarter in 2003, then we had 2004 ai semi, then position pretty much maintained since then. O rourke has brought progress, but its been a long road, and the support from the county board is more forthcoming because of the success we have had in the past few yrs.

The big thing for any team, and Antrim in particular is to get pride in the county - its massivley detrimental when its all over the papers that players aren't turning out for what ever reason - devalues the jersey.

St Micks enniskillen have been having macrory success for a good while, and this has filtered through to contribute to fermanaghs senior success, but parallell fermanagh minors with antrim seniors. St micks enniskillen is the most prestigious underage team in fermanagh, to the detriment of the county minors, which have very limited success. yet the county minors has available the same players. The county minors always play second fiddle.
St Galls anyone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:41:18 PM

Derrys minor win in 89 yielded just two on the senior AI winning 93 side.... hardly compelling evidence
Donegal had nothing to draw from...Likewise dublin....




What drugs are you on? The Derry side of 93 had Coleman, Tohill, Burns and Heaney from '89. They also had minor All-Ireland winners in McGurk, McNicholl and Cassidy from '83. I'm sure the Derry side that lost the All-Ireland U21 side of '85 had a few contributors too.

Donegal had nothing to draw on? Try 80s All-Ireland U21 medlaists McGowan, Gallagher, Reid, Gavigan, Doherty, Molloy, McMullan, McHugh, Boyle and Cunningham. The minor side of '85 won Ulster.

As usual, plenty to say about nothing!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2009, 10:04:29 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
another example of teams not winning but providing the 'bedrock' from an example clost to my own exp was the kildare minor side of 87.


More nonsense. The 87 side won Leinster minor, as did the '91 side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 06, 2009, 12:41:18 PM

Derrys minor win in 89 yielded just two on the senior AI winning 93 side.... hardly compelling evidence
Donegal had nothing to draw from...Likewise dublin....

What drugs are you on? The Derry side of 93 had Coleman, Tohill, Burns and Heaney from '89. They also had minor All-Ireland winners in McGurk, McNicholl and Cassidy from '83. I'm sure the Derry side that lost the All-Ireland U21 side of '85 had a few contributors too.

Donegal had nothing to draw on? Try 80s All-Ireland U21 medlaists McGowan, Gallagher, Reid, Gavigan, Doherty, Molloy, McMullan, McHugh, Boyle and Cunningham. The minor side of '85 won Ulster.

As usual, plenty to say about nothing!
think you will see that I was out by one on how many the Derry minor side provided for the AI final win.
Burns - as much as I like the lad was peripheral at best to that team.

I'll give you donegal, but the Dublin example still stands...


as for the kildare example - there were hardly any of the 87 minor side that graduated to the kildare senior team (a strange team as many of that side didnt even figure at senior level for their clubs - captain fintain buckley and midfielder james findleybeing prime examples)
so you are wrong regarding kildare's u18 side in 87 and also in what the later u21 side prvided o the side thereafter.

but as per usual in your haste to try to discredit myself you overlook everything else!
Its prob that lack of attention to detail that will keep you down at teaching level rather than makin in in the real world !
;)

you obv don even understand the point that a good manager can create a very good side in a sports scenario - Martin oneill at Celtic and now villa, mickey harte at tyrone, mick odwyer at kildare and laois
Obv you need some great players in your side for this to work, its not often a team of complete mediocre players will win through.
It happens though, the formation and style instilled by the manager is the key.
Plenty of highly skilled sides dont win All Irelands. Or provincial championships. Its the same effect in reverse.
Thats all I am saying.
antrim have enough talent to certainly compete in Ulster and have an outside shot at a championship. Maybe not win it (yet) but certainly be ten times better than recent years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
Quoteantrim have enough talent to certainly compete in Ulster and have an outside shot at a championship. Maybe not win it (yet) but certainly be ten times better than recent years.

I firmly believe the ten times better part. Winning an ulster in 2 years is crazy talk.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 11:32:15 AM

think you will see that I was out by one on how many the Derry minor side provided for the AI final win.
Burns - as much as I like the lad was peripheral at best to that team.

as for the kildare example - there were hardly any of the 87 minor side that graduated to the kildare senior team (a strange team as many of that side didnt even figure at senior level for their clubs - captain fintain buckley and midfielder james findleybeing prime examples)
so you are wrong regarding kildare's u18 side in 87 and also in what the later u21 side prvided o the side thereafter.


So, you were wrong about the Derry '93 side (of which half were All-Ireland minor winners). You were wrong about Kildare winning nothing in '87, when they plainly did. By the way, Kildare didn't win much more than that in '98 so not exactly a successful side.

O'Neill didn't have a better record than Strachen or the doctor. He was also managing a side that has one team as viable opposition.
Harte was in charge of winners at every level, including club.
O'Dwyer's Kildare had minor winners from two Leinster campaigns in the previous 10 years.
Laois under O'Dwyer followed the Leinster winning minors of 96, 97 and 98 including 2 All-Ireland titles.

Good managers can add an extra edge but very few sides win big honours with no underage success beforehand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
Good managers can add an extra edge but very few sides win big honours with no underage success beforehand.

Can I interject and propose Kerry

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 12:30:59 PM
You can if you want.

Kerry have won All-Ireland minor titles in every decade since the 1930s, more than any other county. They have won 40 Munster Championships. This decade may be the first.

They have won All-Ireland U21 titles in every decade bar the 80s since the 60s, again top of the honours list (including 4 in the 90s hence their dominance at senior level in the 00s).

It's a lazy myth that Kerry do not have underage success. Most counties would cry out for their ability to top up their silverware at every level each decade.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 07, 2009, 12:59:34 PM
QuoteSt Micks enniskillen have been having macrory success for a good while, and this has filtered through to contribute to fermanaghs senior success, but parallell fermanagh minors with antrim seniors. St micks enniskillen is the most prestigious underage team in fermanagh, to the detriment of the county minors, which have very limited success. yet the county minors has available the same players. The county minors always play second fiddle.
St Galls anyone?

Would Fermanagh Minors have the same players available to them as St Michaels?  Would it not be the case that over the past few years of success that the St Michaels teams have had a decent number of key players from Tyrone?  In comparison with St Galls, they would be in the same boat in the regard that not all their players are Antrim men. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
Quoteantrim have enough talent to certainly compete in Ulster and have an outside shot at a championship. Maybe not win it (yet) but certainly be ten times better than recent years.

I firmly believe the ten times better part. Winning an ulster in 2 years is crazy talk.
got to set the sights high though !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 11:32:15 AM

think you will see that I was out by one on how many the Derry minor side provided for the AI final win.
Burns - as much as I like the lad was peripheral at best to that team.

as for the kildare example - there were hardly any of the 87 minor side that graduated to the kildare senior team (a strange team as many of that side didnt even figure at senior level for their clubs - captain fintain buckley and midfielder james findleybeing prime examples)
so you are wrong regarding kildare's u18 side in 87 and also in what the later u21 side prvided o the side thereafter.


So, you were wrong about the Derry '93 side (of which half were All-Ireland minor winners). You were wrong about Kildare winning nothing in '87, when they plainly did. By the way, Kildare didn't win much more than that in '98 so not exactly a successful side.

O'Neill didn't have a better record than Strachen or the doctor. He was also managing a side that has one team as viable opposition.
Harte was in charge of winners at every level, including club.
O'Dwyer's Kildare had minor winners from two Leinster campaigns in the previous 10 years.
Laois under O'Dwyer followed the Leinster winning minors of 96, 97 and 98 including 2 All-Ireland titles.

Good managers can add an extra edge but very few sides win big honours with no underage success beforehand.
feck sake - splitting hairs ! (is that irony considering the two of us and our solar panels!)

cant really put in the opposition to MON's equation as its the same opposition every year- so you can remove that constant.
Previously in ten years Celtic had won one championship in eleven years prior. Strachan inherited an aging side but one that no longer had that losing mentality or fear. (though hes doing his best to re-instill it).

O'dwyers Kildare teams contained about as many as Derry did of minor winners (provincial wiers in Kildares case).
Derry had THREE minor winers on the team. Hardly the backbone, barely the foot !
Harte trained AI winning teams, so did Danny Ball....

Again like Tyrone Laois had loads of underage success but they would never have got it together until the right manager came along.
Odwyer for laois, Harte in tyrones case.

I didnt use Kerry as an example as they have an embarrasment of riches in terms of talent. Pat oshea won an all Ireland in his first year proving you dont have to be great to win stuff for Kerry (imo).
Effectively kerry are the opposite of my opinion.
and its all just an opinion oneill, shouldnt you be on playground duty or something?
;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 12:30:59 PM
You can if you want.

Kerry have won All-Ireland minor titles in every decade since the 1930s, more than any other county. They have won 40 Munster Championships. This decade may be the first.

They have won All-Ireland U21 titles in every decade bar the 80s since the 60s, again top of the honours list (including 4 in the 90s hence their dominance at senior level in the 00s).

It's a lazy myth that Kerry do not have underage success. Most counties would cry out for their ability to top up their silverware at every level each decade.



Nowhere have I stated that Kerry do not have underage success.

My point is that Kerry's senior success far outweighs anything they have achieved at underage level. Kerry may indeed have more minor titles than any other county; a total of 11 in fact. The total that Tyrone and Derry have managed between them. Your logic would therefore dictate that Tyrone and Derry should have a Senior tally that roughly corresponds to Kerry's. Kerry have 35, Tyrone 3 and Derry 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 02:14:51 PM
LB, there were 7 minor winners on the Derry team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
O'neill you will find LB will never admit that you have proved your point. The main premise of the discussion was that you don't need successful underage teams either at minor or u21 to win senior intercounty provincial or All Ireland championships. You have more than adequately proved that all winning teams have a number of these succesful players in there ranks. LB should concede on this point, but I also agree with LB that a manager will make all the difference on how successful that group will be at senior. i.e if Harte was not with Tyrone it is hard to image that they would have won 3 seniors in 5 years. in other words the two go hand in hand to be a successful senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 02:14:18 PM

Nowhere have I stated that Kerry do not have underage success.

My point is that Kerry's senior success far outweighs anything they have achieved at underage level. Kerry may indeed have more minor titles than any other county; a total of 11 in fact. The total that Tyrone and Derry have managed between them. Your logic would therefore dictate that Tyrone and Derry should have a Senior tally that roughly corresponds to Kerry's. Kerry have 35, Tyrone 3 and Derry 1.

Fair enough, but that's a strange point to make now. Initially you highlighted my very few sides win big honours with no underage success beforehand with the comment Can I interject and propose Kerry?

You can understand the average pauper's confusion here.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
Were talking about SS2...a crazy mixed up kid ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 02:14:18 PM

Nowhere have I stated that Kerry do not have underage success.

My point is that Kerry's senior success far outweighs anything they have achieved at underage level. Kerry may indeed have more minor titles than any other county; a total of 11 in fact. The total that Tyrone and Derry have managed between them. Your logic would therefore dictate that Tyrone and Derry should have a Senior tally that roughly corresponds to Kerry's. Kerry have 35, Tyrone 3 and Derry 1.

Fair enough, but that's a strange point to make now. Initially you highlighted my very few sides win big honours with no underage success beforehand with the comment Can I interject and propose Kerry?

You can understand the average pauper's confusion here.
.

Would I get away with saying that something happened and I accidently hit Post before I had completed the sentence which should have finished Katona as the most famous person whose surname is Katona?. The absence of a question mark in my original post would lend credence to this theory.

Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
Were talking about SS2...a crazy mixed up kid ;)

Yes, it would appear I have annoyed one or more of your neighbours from the opposite bank of the Bann to your good self. The old loose talk is 'bad form'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 07, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 07, 2009, 12:59:34 PM
QuoteSt Micks enniskillen have been having macrory success for a good while, and this has filtered through to contribute to fermanaghs senior success, but parallell fermanagh minors with antrim seniors. St micks enniskillen is the most prestigious underage team in fermanagh, to the detriment of the county minors, which have very limited success. yet the county minors has available the same players. The county minors always play second fiddle.
St Galls anyone?

Would Fermanagh Minors have the same players available to them as St Michaels?  Would it not be the case that over the past few years of success that the St Michaels teams have had a decent number of key players from Tyrone?  In comparison with St Galls, they would be in the same boat in the regard that not all their players are Antrim men. 


All St Gall's players bar Ronnie Gallagher are from Belfast now. Preriously Lurgan's big Mark McCrory used to be immense at midfield in the Ulster Club, Omagh's Gary McGirr played half back in 2004/5 and Dregish's Ciaran McCrossan played and scored the goal that beat Bellaghy in 2005(although he would have mostly played half back and rarely scored.

Most of St Gall's boys are quite psychotic when it comes to winning and its correct that they do not have same desire when they play for their county. The boys are still competitive and would want to win but the team-ethos and team's bond(if there is any) would be nowhere near as strong for the county as it is when they play for St Galls.

This is rightly similar to St Micks where boys would do anything to get on the team and their one aim from 1st year is to make the McCrory team. Ive talked to more than a few Fermanagh girls who have said that when they were at school (5th/6th yr) they would all be dyin to go with a fella who was on the McCrory team. Compare this with Antrim, granted St Mary's are now in McCrory, but would any girl in Belfast know or give a f**k if a boy was playin McCrory. What i mean is there is a pride in Fermanagh and most other Ulster counties in their teams that is simply not the case in Antrim--people want to play for them and win with them as they are held in high esteem, this is not the case in Antrim where plays are often knocked repeatedly, much quicker than they ever would be praised(although granted there has been f**k all to praise on the whole). There is little or no value in the county jersey as shown when players who many believe are our top players choose not to play when they are fortunate enough to be injury free, youthful, fit, healthy and blessed with talent. I feel that many of these players feel embarrassed to play for the county due to its poor results and only want to be associated with the success of St Galls and remembered that way. It is up to these players to assist by putting their shoulders to the wheel and trying to change the county's fortunes.  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 03:04:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 07, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
I feel that many of these players feel embarrassed to play the county due to its poor results and only want to be associated with the success of St Galls and remembered that way. It is up to these players to assist by putting their shoulders to the wheel and trying to change the county's fortunes.  

That's an honest and bold statement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Winning an Ulster in two years might be a bit fanciful, but not at all impossible. If I said three would you feel it is a bit more achievable?

In any event, sport is littered with teams that have been transformed within two years. In most cases the common denominator is a good management set up, and a good support network, and some real talent that has never properly been given the chance to obtain optimum level achievement.

Celtic pre Martin O Neill, or Jock Stein for that matter. Couldnt win an argument.

For Stein to take a group of 11 men from a thirty mile radius of Glasgow, to the heights of a European Cup, is proof that EVERYTHING is possible.

GAA history also littered with countless examples, Clare hurling, Waterford hurling, Laois and Kildare football, never mind our own St Galls.

Good organisation, committment and hard work will go a long way in any team environment.

Could Mickey Harte take Antrim to an Ulster title in two/three years? I`d say very possibly.

Its only as unachievable as you want to make it. The current squad will be our best in a long time, and will be peaking in two/three years. Open the eyes, please. Lets get them every chance they deserve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on January 07, 2009, 03:13:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM

For Stein to take a group of 11 men from a thirty mile radius of Glasgow, to the heights of a European Cup, is proof that EVERYTHING is possible.


In fairness, Antrim don't have a Jinky or a Caeser to call upon, nor a Murdoch for that matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Could Mickey Harte take Antrim to an Ulster title in two/three years? I`d say very possibly.

I'd say no, because he is only one of the three integral parts needed to be successful.

Do we have a county board or equivalent or Club Tyrone with sufficient interest, far-sightedness and financial backing to ensure all the manager's requirements are met?

Do we have a group of players who are dedicated enough to make the sacrifices required to be successful at senior inter-county level?

I would suggest that the answer to my two questions would both be No.

Until we have a county board, senior squad and senior management team with a similar level of interest, knowledge and application as your good self (for example) or Tyrone, then Antrim will remain very much stuck in their current mire.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2009, 03:18:24 PM
Bannside lets put our ulster championship matches of the last 25 years as a table:

P                 W                D           L
30                2                 3           25

That may not be 100% accurate but if not it's very close.

Now we have more players playing sigerson than ever before - and playing well - so there's no doubt that we need to, and should be, optimistic.

Here's what I would think best case we could read after 2 years would be...

P                W               D             L
35               5                3             27

With 2/3 wins in the qualifiers. That's very optimistic - let's walk before we can run!!

Many things are possible. You look at the difference in those tables there - that would be a 100%+ improvement so it is hardly pessimistic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Winning an Ulster in two years might be a bit fanciful, but not at all impossible. If I said three would you feel it is a bit more achievable?

In any event, sport is littered with teams that have been transformed within two years. In most cases the common denominator is a good management set up, and a good support network, and some real talent that has never properly been given the chance to obtain optimum level achievement.

Celtic pre Martin O Neill, or Jock Stein for that matter. Couldnt win an argument.

For Stein to take a group of 11 men from a thirty mile radius of Glasgow, to the heights of a European Cup, is proof that EVERYTHING is possible.

GAA history also littered with countless examples, Clare hurling, Waterford hurling, Laois and Kildare football, never mind our own St Galls.

Good organisation, committment and hard work will go a long way in any team environment.

Could Mickey Harte take Antrim to an Ulster title in two/three years? I`d say very possibly.

Its only as unachievable as you want to make it. The current squad will be our best in a long time, and will be peaking in two/three years. Open the eyes, please. Lets get them every chance they deserve.

Bannside you need to go and see a doctor ;) Antrim have gotten to 1 Ulster semifinal in 25 years and now your saying can win an Ulster without as much as minor title.

It sure proves the world is full of fanatics
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM


Its only as unachievable as you want to make it. The current squad will be our best in a long time, and will be peaking in two/three years. Open the eyes, please. Lets get them every chance they deserve.

Do you not think that missing Kevin McGourty and Sean Kelly seriously lessens the quality of the players potentially available to the county? For Antrim to win an Ulster title, they need to maximise what they have, not attempt to make a silk purse....

Monaghan/Tyrone/Armagh
Derry/Donegal/Fermanagh/Down
Cavan/Antrim

Is that a fair three-tier summary in the province? To get Antrim mixing competently in that second tier would be a major achievement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 07, 2009, 03:26:01 PM
If Mickey Harte was the Antrim manager "Shaws Road" would probably take umbrage with him and leave the panel because Harte was not clean shaven.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 07, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
My point is that Kerry's senior success far outweighs anything they have achieved at underage level. Kerry may indeed have more minor titles than any other county; a total of 11 in fact. The total that Tyrone and Derry have managed between them. Your logic would therefore dictate that Tyrone and Derry should have a Senior tally that roughly corresponds to Kerry's. Kerry have 35, Tyrone 3 and Derry 1.

this is part one of my point - underage success doe not mean senior success will follow.

the converse must also be possible - that senior success can also be possible with no underage success

ok if we take all the other contentious examples out of it and leave in just the one - dublin (with sherlock and maybe keith galvin from the minor side that got to /won the leinster championship final)
it shows you do not need strong underage - in fact the dublin set up up until recent times would be so disjointed that underage had no path through to senior (unless from certain 2 or 3 clubs).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
O'neill you will find LB will never admit that you have proved your point. The main premise of the discussion was that you don't need successful underage teams either at minor or u21 to win senior intercounty provincial or All Ireland championships. You have more than adequately proved that all winning teams have a number of these succesful players in there ranks. LB should concede on this point, but I also agree with LB that a manager will make all the difference on how successful that group will be at senior. i.e if Harte was not with Tyrone it is hard to image that they would have won 3 seniors in 5 years. in other words the two go hand in hand to be a successful senior team
that wasnt my point
my point is the second part - where a good manager can use the players at his disposalto create a winning team.

Eire og would be an example of that. Invidually average - onloy three of them on the CARLOW team in their hayday , yet in combination and collectively, one of the top club sides in Ireland for approx 4 years (still couldnt win an all Ireland though).

Antrim could be very competitive in a couple of years time with a newer crop of talent coming through , and players seeing the st galls example and thinking that they could at last be winners !
Thats a start. Lets hope the next two years wont p**s them off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Winning an Ulster in two years might be a bit fanciful, but not at all impossible. If I said three would you feel it is a bit more achievable?

In any event, sport is littered with teams that have been transformed within two years. In most cases the common denominator is a good management set up, and a good support network, and some real talent that has never properly been given the chance to obtain optimum level achievement.

Celtic pre Martin O Neill, or Jock Stein for that matter. Couldnt win an argument.

For Stein to take a group of 11 men from a thirty mile radius of Glasgow, to the heights of a European Cup, is proof that EVERYTHING is possible.

GAA history also littered with countless examples, Clare hurling, Waterford hurling, Laois and Kildare football, never mind our own St Galls.

Good organisation, committment and hard work will go a long way in any team environment.

Could Mickey Harte take Antrim to an Ulster title in two/three years? I`d say very possibly.

Its only as unachievable as you want to make it. The current squad will be our best in a long time, and will be peaking in two/three years. Open the eyes, please. Lets get them every chance they deserve.

Bannside you need to go and see a doctor ;) Antrim have gotten to 1 Ulster semifinal in 25 years and now your saying can win an Ulster without as much as minor title.

It sure proves the world is full of fanatics
cant say he's wrong !
Fermanagh almost did...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on January 07, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM


Its only as unachievable as you want to make it. The current squad will be our best in a long time, and will be peaking in two/three years. Open the eyes, please. Lets get them every chance they deserve.

Do you not think that missing Kevin McGourty and Sean Kelly seriously lessens the quality of the players potentially available to the county? For Antrim to win an Ulster title, they need to maximise what they have, not attempt to make a silk purse....

Monaghan/Tyrone/Armagh
Derry/Donegal/Fermanagh/Down
Cavan/Antrim

Is that a fair three-tier summary in the province? To get Antrim mixing competently in that second tier would be a major achievement.

Interesting opinions on this thread as always but how in the hell can everyone deem Monaghan as a top tier team? What exactly have they done at the business end of a season but go down with a fight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 04:00:51 PM

ok if we take all the other contentious examples out of it and leave in just the one - dublin (with sherlock and maybe keith galvin from the minor side that got to /won the leinster championship final)


Walsh, Stynes and Clarke all had All-Ireland minor medals as well. Maybe others if I look hard enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2009, 04:26:08 PM
Please refer to my posts yesterday. Maybe no underage silverware was achieved, but the next bunch coming through will all have enjoyed good competitive victories against some of Ulsters finest.

Armagh won the all ireland u-21`s in 2004, beating a full Derry side by 14 points in the Ulster final at Casement. Earlier, they had great trouble beating Antrim in Crossmaglen - and Antrim had three big players missing.

Two years later most of this same group were around when Antrim could/should have beaten Tyrone in Omagh, with Crozier/CJ unavailable. They had previously dispatched Fermanagh by 12 points.

Maybe I have a more nostalgic view of this than some others, due to an involvement - but Im telling you a lot of these guys do not suffer from the same inferiority complex that has crucified Antrim teams for so long.

Plus we have the added bonus of St Galls, who have shown that winning is possible, and a whole clutch of Antrim players figuring prominently at Sigerson level.

Call me a fanatic, or a lunatic if you want, but in the right hands Antrim could make serious progress in the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Winning an Ulster in two years might be a bit fanciful, but not at all impossible. If I said three would you feel it is a bit more achievable?

In any event, sport is littered with teams that have been transformed within two years. In most cases the common denominator is a good management set up, and a good support network, and some real talent that has never properly been given the chance to obtain optimum level achievement.

Celtic pre Martin O Neill, or Jock Stein for that matter. Couldnt win an argument.

For Stein to take a group of 11 men from a thirty mile radius of Glasgow, to the heights of a European Cup, is proof that EVERYTHING is possible.

GAA history also littered with countless examples, Clare hurling, Waterford hurling, Laois and Kildare football, never mind our own St Galls.

Good organisation, committment and hard work will go a long way in any team environment.

Could Mickey Harte take Antrim to an Ulster title in two/three years? I`d say very possibly.

Its only as unachievable as you want to make it. The current squad will be our best in a long time, and will be peaking in two/three years. Open the eyes, please. Lets get them every chance they deserve.

Bannside you need to go and see a doctor ;) Antrim have gotten to 1 Ulster semifinal in 25 years and now your saying can win an Ulster without as much as minor title.

It sure proves the world is full of fanatics
cant say he's wrong !
Fermanagh almost did...

We talking Antrim in its current state.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 07, 2009, 04:30:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 07, 2009, 04:26:08 PM
Please refer to my posts yesterday. Maybe no underage silverware was achieved, but the next bunch coming through will all have enjoyed good competitive victories against some of Ulsters finest.

Armagh won the all ireland u-21`s in 2004, beating a full Derry side by 14 points in the Ulster final at Casement. Earlier, they had great trouble beating Antrim in Crossmaglen - and Antrim had three big players missing.

Two years later most of this same group were around when Antrim could/should have beaten Tyrone in Omagh, with Crozier/CJ unavailable. They had previously dispatched Fermanagh by 12 points.

Maybe I have a more nostalgic view of this than some others, due to an involvement - but Im telling you a lot of these guys do not suffer from the same inferiority complex that has crucified Antrim teams for so long.

Plus we have the added bonus of St Galls, who have shown that winning is possible, and a whole clutch of Antrim players figuring prominently at Sigerson level.

Call me a fanatic, or a lunatic if you want, but in the right hands Antrim could make serious progress in the next few years.

Bannside I have read all your posts and your as mad as a hatter.  Its all ifs and buts. But this i agree with, Antrim in thier current state with no support at board level or support at infacstructure level ie no Club Antrim for the footy, will not win a bar of soap at championship level for soem time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 07, 2009, 04:45:54 PM
I think one thing everyone can agree with is the potential in Antrim. Some serious players in Crozier, McCann, Loughrey, CJ etc. I can see where bannside is coming from because Antrim have as good a pool of young players as any of the other Ulster counties. With the right structures in place Antrim football would no doubt improve dramatically but sadly I can't see this happening. For this year IMO promotion from Div4, at least one victory in the USFC and a run in the qualifiers would all seem realistic targets.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2009, 05:03:38 PM
FitzRoyalty, theres not an Antrim supporter alive who wouldnt settle right now for just that.

Max, not disagree with you at all that we dont have the correct support structure in place to facilitate success. This has to be led from the top, and unfortunately their neither seems to be the ambition or the desire, at board level.

Can we all at least agree that we have a decent bunch coming through, and that both the new management and the players deserve to be given every possible help to attain a higher performance level, in a sustainable way.

The Doctor still has to convince me that he really wants the best for Antrim Football. Maybe if he did so, I might get off his case a little. But trust me I know a bit more than the average bear about Antrim Football, and it still hurts to know that we have not made provision to use every possible facility at the high performance centre in UUJ, which is on our doorsteps. Not to mention the range of support services available there.

We have made excuses for too long. Its time for a lot of people to get the finger out!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 07, 2009, 05:33:20 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 07, 2009, 12:59:34 PM
QuoteSt Micks enniskillen have been having macrory success for a good while, and this has filtered through to contribute to fermanaghs senior success, but parallell fermanagh minors with antrim seniors. St micks enniskillen is the most prestigious underage team in fermanagh, to the detriment of the county minors, which have very limited success. yet the county minors has available the same players. The county minors always play second fiddle.
St Galls anyone?

Would Fermanagh Minors have the same players available to them as St Michaels?  Would it not be the case that over the past few years of success that the St Michaels teams have had a decent number of key players from Tyrone?  In comparison with St Galls, they would be in the same boat in the regard that not all their players are Antrim men. 

You're right in that St Micks usually have a few players (i dont ever remember there being more than 2 on any st micks team) from trillick or thereabouts, but while all players are key, they never have been any of the 'main men' so to speak. (I cant speak for this yr however, and mattie donnelly- i havent seen them play)

What I'm saying is, Fermanagh minors have available all the key players and obviously theres other players to come in - eg just briefly off the top of my head, eamon maguire and mark little never went to st micks, - and so should be doing better. When one team becomes more prestigious than another, its gonna be to the detriment of the second. If players aren't turning out for Antrim, and they represent a team which gets much praise, and are seen as good players, then the attitude is soon gonna be that its not 'cool' to turn out for Antrim, the players that are turning out are second-rate, etc.

I dont mean to slate st galls, though i realise the above sounds it, i'm just saying that st galls success and subsequent attitude of players to the county, whether right or wrong in their stance, is massively detrimental.

Exiled Gael, i agree completely. ONeill, you seem to know a bit, but I cant understand how you and others rate monaghan so highly? They were never going to beat Kerry - they're simply no good.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2009, 05:39:12 PM
Not everyone who can play McRory can play minor as well which would be a contributing factor...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 06:55:36 PM
Well, I didn't want to sound cocky so I threw Monaghan in that bracket. If I was being honest:

Tyrone
Armagh (falling despite their Ulsters)
Monaghan (slightly steelier than the three below)
Derry - Donegal -  Fermanagh (capable of a decent run)
Down (still not convinced)
Cavan
Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 07:07:02 PM
The Leitrim and Clare provincial football titles in the 90s would be an equivalent to Antrim winning Ulster.

In Leitrim's case (1994), it was preceded by a minor final defeat in Connacht in 1991. That year they also won the U21 title.

As for Clare (1992) their only pedigree was reaching the U21 Munster finals of '88 and '89, losing both.

For Antrim to reach an U21 final in Ulster would be a decent season for a start. They haven't managed that for 20 years (1989). Their minors last appeared in a final in 2006 - that represents some pedigree so perhaps Bannside has a case here. The 2009 U21 team's progress will make interesting watching. Who do they have?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2009, 10:23:56 PM
Trying very hard to prove a point here O'Neill ;)

Let's be honest - success breeds success. We've not had enough, ok any, so won't breed success overnight. The successes we need are the getting out of division 4, winning a match in ulster and then once beaten winning a couple in qualifiers. That would breed further success in subsequent years.

Priority number 1 - pride in the jersey.

Bannside a wise man once told me when he played under you that you were nuts - I now know where he was coming from  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 11:11:28 PM
Other things as well, including the experience St Mary's gain in the MacRory and Antrim sides winning the McLarnon as well as involvement with successful universities adds to that winning mentality. I'd love to know how much St Mary's are providing their players in preparation for the quarter finals.

Do Antrim provide a service whereby current/past players visit schools to give some coaching or the like? Moves like that go a long way to gaining and maintaining the interest of young lads in the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2009, 10:06:35 AM
You dont have to be mad to be an Antrim Supporter, but it helps!

There are 3 options open to me.

1. Make a clear case that we have a terrific group of players coming through, and demand that the county officers responsible recognise this, and leave no stone unturned to make sure they get every necessary level of proper support to allow this group to fulfil their potential over the next few years. Sorry if I havent got the right signals from the co leadership that this is likely to happen.

2. Take a largely apathetic, passive, remote interest in the affairs of our county footballers - because thats what the vast majority of gaels in our county have been doing for years. (Cant beat them, join them)

3. Get a life and take up golf, gardening, cooking, lawn bowling......and give Antrim football up as a lost cause.

For the meantime, I will stick to No 1. Maybe thats because I have great belief in the emerging players. And if this can help in any small way to raise the bar, then it is worth doing. If it gives co officials a bit of a jolt to get the finger out, then it will have served as a useful exercise.

Then again we know that our County officers dont read or recognise this medium.........not!

Finally, I post on here in the assumption that 90% of regular posters on this thread know my identity. So ITG if you wish to post on the details of the really "wise" man you know, maybe we could all have an opinion to see if he is as wise as you make him out to be.

Either that, or stop trying to get personal!

To be called mad, or nuts because I have the audacity to suggest we should be trying to win an Ulster title in the next few years is ludicrous. If you believe we have a chance of doing it - you MAY be right. If you believe we definitely wont win it - then you definitely WILL be right. To be honest I`ve never heard so much negativity. I just hope the players dont read this thread!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
Bannside I was making a joke there but I was told that! Many years ago though.

Two years is too much - be positive yes but what happens if we don't win an ulster in 2 years? Have we, in your opinion, failed?

We have some good players coming through no doubt. Much better than in years gone by. Let them get their feet on the ground first though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2009, 10:56:41 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 07, 2009, 04:00:51 PM

ok if we take all the other contentious examples out of it and leave in just the one - dublin (with sherlock and maybe keith galvin from the minor side that got to /won the leinster championship final)


Walsh, Stynes and Clarke all had All-Ireland minor medals as well. Maybe others if I look hard enough.
great
now how does this go about proving that any successful minor or u21 side MAKE or go a long way towards creating a successful senior side.

a couple of players of a minor or u21 team certainly does not look like that underage side gave great impetus towards a senior side...

Now I am not questioning the value of these players to their senior team, but if your point was valid surely there shoul dbe a large number of these underage teams en masse within the starting XV

no there isnt, therefore the underage success isnt necessarily of any huge consequence....ask Derry , or westmeath or laois or mayo......

I dont disagree that you need some good (some great woul dbe better) players, but a manager can formulate a lot if he's good enough.

eg tyrone havent had a 'standard' midfielder since plunkett, mcclure or kilpatrick...yet using alternative tactical methods still clean up round the middle of the park...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 08, 2009, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 07, 2009, 06:55:36 PM
Well, I didn't want to sound cocky so I threw Monaghan in that bracket. If I was being honest:

Tyrone
Armagh (falling despite their Ulsters)
Monaghan (slightly steelier than the three below)
Derry - Donegal -  Fermanagh (capable of a decent run)
Down (still not convinced)
Cavan
Antrim

I'm aware this isn't the place to debate this, but briefly, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh would beat monaghan 3 times out of 4, and Down would beat them 2 times out of 4. Losing valiantly to Kerry or Tyrone isn't an endorsement of a good team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2009, 11:26:34 AM
Fair enough ITG. Whats the old saying. "You dont have to be nuts to do this job - but it helps!" Anyway, I took Max`s advice and went to see the Doctor yesterday.

Bit ignorant he was. Sat with his back to me the whole time.

He asked me "whats wrong?". I said my head wasnt right.

"So you are the "mad" Antrim Football supporter then" said the doctor. "How long have you had this problem?".

"Afraid so", says I. "For almost forty years".

"Thats a long time" said the doctor. "Im not sure if there is anything I can do for you".

"Please Doctor, there must be something - anything at all that will lift the depression" I asked.

It was then he swung around in his chair. I could see he had a steely look in his eye.

" For christs sake man, havent we the hurling to sort out first. Have you no wit?" he retorted, in a gruff glens of Antrim accent.

"But what about the Football Doctor?", I proferred.

"Next", shouted the Doctor. "Theres no cure for that football disease. If you dont wise up, I`ll be getting you certified. Now off you go, and stop wasting my time!"

"Ok Doctor. Could you at least point me in the direction of the bowling club", I weakly proferred.

"With great pleasure", replied the smiling Doctor! "Sure I`ll take you there myself".

I was filled with great anticipation as we approached the gates of Hollywell.

"Is there a lawn bowling club here, kind Doctor" I whispered meekly.

" No, but its full of mad Antrim Football Supporters like yourself. Now get out and dont let me hear about you upsetting the patients with silly talk about winning championships. Do you hear me, ye stupid eejit ye", said the cross Doctor. "Now off with ye".

I was a little bit taken aback.

A rather pretty nurse with nice legs was the first to speak to me. She was about 19.

"You`re the new man", she said. "Is there anything at all I could do for you?"

"Yes Nurse. You wouldnt happen to have a computer handy" I asked.

"No problem at all " came the reply.

It didnt take long to google up "GAABOARD" - ANTRIM FOOTBALL THREAD"

So here we are. Now heres a question for youse all.

"How many years will it take to for Antrim to win an Ulster Football C`ship?".


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2009, 11:40:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 08, 2009, 11:26:34 AM
"How many years will it take to for Antrim to win an Ulster Football C`ship?".
Years it will take to have Antrim winning Ulster championship = Amount of years before Hell freezes over x 4.5
(according to most on here seemingly!)
:D

Very good Bannside !
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 08, 2009, 11:10:26 AM

I'm aware this isn't the place to debate this, but briefly, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh would beat monaghan 3 times out of 4, and Down would beat them 2 times out of 4. Losing valiantly to Kerry or Tyrone isn't an endorsement of a good team.

Really? I wouldn't agree. Monaghan defeated both Derry and Donegal in last year's championship. The year before they defeated Derry, Donegal and Down. Your opinion doesn't have any evidence of being credible. I think that in itself earns respect as a formidable side in that company.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
In answer to your question BS 6/7 years on the basis we have some good minor teams coming through.

LB you say it like it's easy. This is not a dig but I don't even think Derry have won it this century?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2009, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
In answer to your question BS 6/7 years on the basis we have some good minor teams coming through.

LB you say it like it's easy. This is not a dig but I don't even think Derry have won it this century?!
no I certainly dont mean its easy, Derry are a fantastic example of how mismanagement have caused a side with decent players to not only be uncompetitive in the Ulster championship (in semi or final) but how also to play way below a level what many think they should easily be capable of.

To be honest, of the current intercounty managers out there, imo there are only a few who are smart tacticians that could get the most out of an average crowd of lads with a few stars thrown in.
Harte being the most obv one. Mcenaney, and contentiously ODwyer being two more. I also think Jack OConnor woul dbe in that category, but Kerry have a lot of star players so its hard to use him as an example other than to mention his turning Kerry around to be more hard edged and changing the method of play after suffering a bit of a tanking against tyrone in 2005.

There seems to be a few more 'new age' managers who are arriving on the county scene or are doing very well in Club scene.
Yer man jason Ryan in wexford, then folks like Antrims Madden and even Bannside is showing great potential (did wonders for a club close to my black heart who most of us thought were complete useless), In Derry theres Eugene Kelly, Cassidy and the McIvers.
I wont go on as there are undoubtedly more,  but all these have potential to be as good (not difficult) than a lot of intercounty managers of the past few years.

It is spotting men who can do this, plus giving them the Boardroom backing (as people mention) that gives a great platform to start off with.
then the players have to be there. You have to have some star men, but men with the right attitude. If you had 9 midfielders on the starting XV you most likely wont win, no matter how great they are for their clubs (am thinking of kildare in the championship in 1987 or 87 where they had 9 established club midfielders playing and they ovc lost but were shambolic in doing so - first round game in tullamore I think it was).

None of this is easy, but you can make it a lot easier on yourselves by selecting a good man, then backing them by putting no barriers in their way and facilitating their training and development rather than hindering them (eg Derry hurling).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 08, 2009, 01:26:32 PM
bannside i like your enthusiasm, but i think we need to take it one step at a time!
i agree with all you said but we must get out of div 4 first and foremost, to be serious about doing anything like winning ulster championships!!
i would be more inclined looking to the long term rather than a quick fix!!
somebody talked about leitrim or kildare, what have they done since!!
went backwards in my opinion.
only my opinion like!

heard league fixtures are more or less ready to go!!

divisions 3,4,5 & 6 start 8th march.
divisions 1 & 2 start 19th april.
cut-off date is set at 25th october.

championship draws are to take place at end of month i think!!
12 teams in senior this year.
nine division one teams (glenavy int), ballymena, lamhs & gorts!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 08, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 08, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 08, 2009, 11:10:26 AM

I'm aware this isn't the place to debate this, but briefly, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh would beat monaghan 3 times out of 4, and Down would beat them 2 times out of 4. Losing valiantly to Kerry or Tyrone isn't an endorsement of a good team.

Really? I wouldn't agree. Monaghan defeated both Derry and Donegal in last year's championship. The year before they defeated Derry, Donegal and Down. Your opinion doesn't have any evidence of being credible. I think that in itself earns respect as a formidable side in that company.

I know people say the manner of victory doesn't matter, as long as there is victory, but I think there are factors which should be taken into account when deciding just how good a team are. Taking the derry victory this yr for eg; I dont think theres much doubt that they were utterly demoralised after aiming for Ulster, and being knocked out. Their sights weren't set on the qualifiers, nor monaghan. Had monaghan beaten fermanagh (who didn't play great and still played them off the park) and met Derry, I believe they'd have been well beaten by a better team.

Of course, we'll never know. My opinion is simply that Monaghan continue to be overrated, I'll say no more on the matter (here anyway!).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
Haranguerer both Monaghan and Derry would have been the same mindset - win ulster. They'd both have been at a low ebb last year.

I'd have thought that would leave them on a level playing field. So given that and the fact they beat derry the previous year you'd find it hard to argue that Derry were better than Monaghan.(league aside which don't matter)

Monaghan were in a position were they could have beaten Fermanagh, and I thought they would, until being deflated by a sucker goal.

To be honest to me Monaghan suffered in ulster from the same as derry did - believing their own hype. They've still a lot to prove but have proven much more than Derry or Donegal - and as much as Fermanagh - in the past 2 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2009, 03:29:05 PM
A lot of performances during June and July really depend on the focus of the team.

Tyrone opted for a real high risk strategy when they "wobbled" a bit during Ulster. So much some critics thought MH had lost the plot.

Harte knew exactly the risk involved, and his entire optimum level was designed for mid September. The way Tyrone finished the AIF was truly amazing. They blew Kerry away in the last ten when the chips were down. This was no accident.

Last year Derry suffered because their focus was on the AI. The Ulster c`ship was only a stepping stone. After winning the NFL their focus was completely wrong, and they paid big time for their arrogance/cockiness. But Cassidy is a different animal.

Antrim have a clear focus this year. Promotion division four, and throw the kichen sink at Donegal on the fourth of June, in Ballybofey.

And build on from that next year to a position where we should be competitive against everyone, and capable of beating anyone on any given Sunday. Th only way is up.

Will back off a bit now. I take it the Doctor has got the message. Up Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 08, 2009, 04:07:24 PM
Antrim have a clear focus this year. Promotion division four, and throw the kichen sink at Donegal on the fourth of June, in Ballybofey.

And build on from that next year to a position where we should be competitive against everyone, and capable of beating anyone on any given Sunday. Th only way is up.

i was starting to think you had totally lost the plot, but you must have took your tablet!!
did the doc give you a free presciption, lol!!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 08, 2009, 05:13:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
Monaghan were in a position were they could have beaten Fermanagh, and I thought they would, until being deflated by a sucker goal.

Sorry, I was talking about the fermanagh v monaghan game in the ulster championship 2008. You're clearly not.

And monaghan had nearly 2 months to refocus their sights on the qualifiers Derry had 2/3 weeks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2009, 05:15:57 PM
First of all I got a dose of reality, followed by a bitter pill to swallow.

No point in putting the roof on without the foundations, but neither have I made the case that we should!

Regardless of what the seniors win, or dont win, I would settle for real leadership around the whole vital area of underage development. I would like to see much more quality in terms of personnel, organisation, facilities, etc. A joined up approach.

I have consistently argued that I would forsake a year or two success at senior level - if we were to start getting it right at underage.

But I have no evidence to suggest this is any proper leadership in this area, or that there is any worthwhile level of accountability. Does anyone care that some of our development squads were a laughing stock last year.

Hey, Im not looking for perfection. But I would love to see a proper committment this year to get every age group going well. u-14, u-15, u-16, u-17, in both regions where appropriate.

Good managers, good coaches (with level one certificates, or better still level two) good communication, good facilities. And thoroughly checked and accountable. On a par with their peers throughout Ulster.

Now that I would settle for. Anything less is simply unacceptable. Thats what all those Ulster council grants were for.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 05:23:38 PM
Haranguerer I thought Monaghan were coming back into that until Fermanagh got a lucky enough goal.

I forgot about the length of time between games however, I don't know, but I sense you're a Derry man clutching at a few straws too. Could be completely wrong there but just get that feeling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 08, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 05:23:38 PM
Haranguerer I thought Monaghan were coming back into that until Fermanagh got a lucky enough goal.

I forgot about the length of time between games however, I don't know, but I sense you're a Derry man clutching at a few straws too. Could be completely wrong there but just get that feeling.

think its obvious Haranguerer is a Fermanagh man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 05:33:47 PM
Ok then I am wrong...

Monaghan I still say are better than Derry and on a par with Fermanagh.

Anyway, back to Antrim football. Bannside talking sense now so back to reality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on January 08, 2009, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 05:33:47 PM
Monaghan I still say are better than Monaghan

We'll give them that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2009, 06:39:05 PM
Thank God for that. Thought we were going to have to start a "who is better, Monaghan or Fermanagh thread?"

And some people think I go on a bit at tiimes........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 09, 2009, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 08, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 08, 2009, 05:23:38 PM
Haranguerer I thought Monaghan were coming back into that until Fermanagh got a lucky enough goal.

I forgot about the length of time between games however, I don't know, but I sense you're a Derry man clutching at a few straws too. Could be completely wrong there but just get that feeling.

think its obvious Haranguerer is a Fermanagh man

probably also obvious I'm close to the border with monaghan!!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2009, 03:33:28 PM
Understandable - we feel the same way about derry  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleaf stateside on January 09, 2009, 06:02:31 PM
im a derry man and i think antrim will do not to bad this year.bakers not a bad man to have. i think darell martin should get the call this year he is a power house
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SidelineKick on January 09, 2009, 06:16:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2009, 06:09:50 PM
As long as we have Paul Close as captain, we'll do alright........ :)

:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 10, 2009, 03:23:47 PM
From county website:


Senior team for Sunday

1.JOHN FINNUCANE
2.CONOR MAXWELL
3.SEAN MC VEIGH
4.AARON DOUGLAS
5.TONY SCULLION
6.PADDY CAREY
7.LIAM CARLAND
8.MICHAEL MC CANN
9.BENNY HASSON
10.AODHAN GALLAGHER
11.KEVIN BRADY
12.DAVY MC ALERNON
13.CIARON CLOSE
14.DONAL GRAHAM
15.GERARD MC ALEESE
16. SEAN MC GREEVEY
17.MARTIN MC CARRY
18.DAMIEN GAULT
19.DARA EDWARDS
20.CONOR CREANEY
21.KEVIN MC GLINCHEY
22.NEIL O CONNELL
23.COLIN BRADY
24.PAUL CONLON
25.KEVIN MC QUILLAN
26.CONOR MC GOLDRICK
27.PADDY CUNNINGHAM
28.MICHAEL MAGILL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on January 10, 2009, 07:15:17 PM
big turnout for u21 trials this year i heard something like 60 players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2009, 02:28:58 PM
latest score

Antrim  0-2
Cavan   1-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
HT

Antrim  0-7
Cavan   1-8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2009, 03:48:06 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
HT

Antrim  0-7
Cavan   1-8

FT

Antrim  0-12
Cavan 1-11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 11, 2009, 06:12:11 PM
anyone at the match? not well and could not get over. report on match please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on January 11, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
same old problems, plenty of possesion, just over playing hand passing game, cant defend when we are being run at and attacked, too many hail mary balls, not many performances from our more consistant players and manager used a guy who i believed showed up at u21 trials, ery unfair on the lad on to put him on one of cavans more experienced players o reilly! just another bad perfromance when we could have done better!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 12, 2009, 10:36:08 AM
Wouldnt be too worried. The Mc Kenna cup is pretty meaningless in the big picture. In real terms it is a series of pre NFL challenge games.

Id say Baker wont mind not qualifying. It would give him a few extra weeks to get a bit of serious pre season done. Real tough leg work etc, that really cant be done when you are going out a few days later to play a game.

On a positive note (Yes, we can be positive here) both games lost had enough clear cut goal chances to have won them both, with a bit to spare. And with eight or nine Antrim men also playing for their universities yesterday, and a few still to commit, Id say competition for places is keener than ever.

Im picking up that feedback seems to be quite good, so lets just roll with it and hopefully the short term benefit will be a decent start to the NFL.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 12, 2009, 10:43:40 AM
Agree with Milkman's synopsis. Same old problem of playing along the Cavan defensive line (as happened in last year's championship - do you remember when Paddy Cunnigham passed it backwards from the end line to past the 45?) rather than:
1. Breaking through with smart running;
2. diagonal passing into the forward line; or
3. Shooting from distance (exception was on one occasion by Aidso G who scored a great point from wide right).

Most/all of these players I have seen knock them over on a regular enough basis. They have to learn/try to do this for Antrim.
Perfect example is David McAlernon (spelling). I rate him highly as a player and he can make the step but he needs to have to confidence to take the players on and take the shot (from what I hear he was the stand out player in the trials).

Not sure what the thinking is with sticking the Under 21 players in there. All for giving them some game time but over and above those who are on the squad as seniors and who came through the trials?

Won't run through performances but suffice to say all can improve.

Hopefully they hit Queens hard. Could be a good game.

I believe Bradley's trainings are good and he's shown he is more willing to experiment than Jody was so onwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 12, 2009, 10:29:49 PM
I see that CJ  scored 1-5 at the weekend and Kevin Niblock  also played well for St Marys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 13, 2009, 08:48:21 AM
Great to see.
I thought Niblock was out for 6 months with the Achilles injury MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 13, 2009, 12:15:13 PM
any chance of us ever winning a match?

how do we miss one on ones?

when are we gonna be ruthless and score?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 14, 2009, 02:21:39 PM
Team for tonight

1 Sean McGreevey Sean Mag Riabhaigh St Paul's
2 Patrick Gallagher Padraig Ó Gallchoir Glenavy
3 Sean Mc Veigh Sean Mac An Bheatha Ballymena
4 Colin Brady Coilin Ó Bradaigh St Gall's
5 Conor Mc Goldrick                 St Teresas
6 Michael McCann Micheal Mac Cana Cargin
7 Paddy Carey Paidin Ó Ciara Portglenone
8 Martin McCarry Mairtin Mac Fhearaigh Portglenone
9 Neil O'Connell Niall Ó Conaill Ahoghill
10 Conor Creaney Conchur Creaney Glenavy
11 Aidan Gallagher Aodhan Ó Gallchoir St Gall's
12 Darragh Edwards Darragh Mac Eadbhaird St Brigid's
13 Colm Fleming Colm Pleimeann Rossa
14 Benny Hasson Benny Ó hOsain Rasharkin
15 Kevin Brady Caoimhin Ó Bradaigh Moneyglass
16 John Finucane Sean Mac Fionmhacain Lamh Dhearg
17 Damien Gault Damian Gallda St Enda's
18 Aaron Douglas Aaron Mac Dúghlais St John's
19 Tony Scullion Antaine Ó Scollain Cargin
20 Kevin Cunningham Kevin Ó Cuinneagh St John's
21 Kevin McQuillan Caoimhin Mac Uilin Dunloy
22 Patrick Fitzpatrick Padraig Mac Giolla Phadraig Sarsfirlds
23 Liam Carlin Liam Ó Cearullain St Paul's
24 Kevin McGlinchey Caoimhin Mag Loingsigh St John's
25 David McAlernon Daithi Mac Giolla Earnain Aghagallon
26 Kieron Close Ciaran Ó Cluasaigh Cargin
27 Donal Graham Donall Ó Greachain Ahoghill
28 Gerard Mc Aleese Gearard Mac Giolla Iosa Portglenone

Assuming Patrick Gallagher and Flemming are under 21s?

Should be a good game, will be interesting to see how it pans out.
Any thoughts?

Is Andy McClean injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 14, 2009, 02:43:37 PM
Fleming played minor last year, so yes, that particular assumption of yours is correct.

McCann at centre-half could be an interesting experiment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on January 14, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
Patrick gallagher was minor last year as well, would be a bit young for senior as would flemming.  Think baker is mad for including them but hope to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2009, 10:11:18 PM
Antrim 1-4 Queens 3-17  ???

Crozier got 2-1 for Queens though and McGourty 2-5 for St Marys so at least a couple of promising things but that's a shocking scoreline!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 14, 2009, 10:36:09 PM
thats a tanking. we cant sink any lower can we?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 14, 2009, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 14, 2009, 10:51:55 PM
A digger was set alight outside Casement Park at around 7pm.

Buckin students.

Digger from Sarsfields is reported to be "keeping alright so I am".

man is a lunatic

at least the antrim college players are playing well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: edendorkgael on January 15, 2009, 09:30:05 AM

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AN EVENING OF CHAT & DEBATE ON THE HOT TOPICS OF THE GAA

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The pup is three and a half months old and is a son of leading sire Ningbo Jack. His mother is from the much sought after breeding line of Staplers Jo and has already thrown winners in her previous two litters.
Anyone wishing to place a bid for the pup should telephone
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cruncher on January 15, 2009, 11:23:56 AM
Could someone post a list of senior managers for division1 this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 15, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
Yet another "pseudo" supporter who glorifies in bad results for this county. Go back to sites that welcome your diatribe of hopeless hysteria.

I take it that they were referring to here pmsl.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 11:37:05 AM
Was at the game last night and boy did Queens give you boys a pasting!!

Far superior all over the pitch and probably wasteful in some of their possession which could have led to alot more scores..

To say Baker has alot of work to do is an understatement!

Sure its only January I suppose ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 15, 2009, 11:39:13 AM
A tanking it sure was. Queens were first to most balls and gathered up any break balls.
Interesting to see Crozier played in the full forward line for Queens...pretty much him and O'Neill left to it in there and it worked.
He has great hands and is a strong runner on the ball but have never seen him play in the FF line. I know he has played CHF for Cargin. Other Antrim players for Queens in Deccy O'Hagan and James Loughgrey played well with Mark Sweeney coming on.

Not sure the Michael McCann experiment at CHB worked at all for Antrim. His playmaking ability was lost in midfield.

Could certainly see that Queens have been training solidly together for 3/4 months. Good unit.
Vernon and Sean Leo McGoldrick (think he was number 7) are class acts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 15, 2009, 10:10:53 PM
glensman!! you also left out another Antrim man in Sean Burke, scoring a point also. but getting away from that.......

1-4 says it all!!!! a ten point beating in Ballybofey this June

Baker must be wondering "what da f*ck"

i hear he's a bit mental during halftime team talks, that really works ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 16, 2009, 09:19:38 AM
MR did you really expect him to be anything else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 16, 2009, 10:54:08 AM
Apologies - I realised in the afternoon about Sean Burke and figured you'd be on to me!

Would love to be a fly on the wall at half time.

1. Kelly, McClean, Crozier, CJ McGourty, Niblock, Pollock, O'Boyle, Cunnigham, Loughrey, Burke, O'Hagan, T McCann...all very good players to come in.
2. Collective training - the rules against which Antrim did abide by. Unlike countless other teams, especially in the south.
3. A decent league run and promotion.

Antrim will beat Donegal (feck it, I need something to look forward to).




PS I won't be betting on this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 16, 2009, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: Glensman on January 16, 2009, 10:54:08 AM
Apologies - I realised in the afternoon about Sean Burke and figured you'd be on to me!

Would love to be a fly on the wall at half time.

1. Kelly, McClean, Crozier, CJ McGourty, Niblock, Pollock, O'Boyle, Cunnigham, Loughrey, Burke, O'Hagan, T McCann...all very good players to come in.
2. Collective training - the rules against which Antrim did abide by. Unlike countless other teams, especially in the south.
3. A decent league run and promotion.

Antrim will beat Donegal (feck it, I need something to look forward to).




PS I won't be betting on this.

You can delete a few from number 1 there. The first two and possibly the fourth as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 16, 2009, 11:35:19 AM
SS2 you know something we dont regarding the Ranch Forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 16, 2009, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: NAG on January 16, 2009, 11:35:19 AM
SS2 you know something we dont regarding the Ranch Forward?

Yes, in fact I do. His full name is Conor John Pius McGourty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 16, 2009, 11:41:08 AM
awh sure that is common knowledge in these parts   :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 16, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
I made the Pius bit up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 16, 2009, 11:50:29 AM
Well sure isnt he at the Ranch sure he has to be Pius!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 16, 2009, 03:10:25 PM
Are both Kelly and McClean not playing then?

I thought Kelly was coming back for the league and McClean was injured (though I was just guessing the latter).
McClean pretty dedicated or am I mistaken.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 16, 2009, 05:52:38 PM
Saffron your better informed than Paddy Heaney, that quality hack from the Irish news.

i wonder how you get your information ;) 

County training tonight, i bet ya Pius will be there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2009, 08:24:38 AM
Any feedback on last nights championship draws? Big on local derbies (or is that just a soccer term)!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 20, 2009, 08:30:42 AM
What were the draws Bannside, and were the Hurling draws made also?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 20, 2009, 09:01:10 AM
anyone know the full draws?

i just know who we got!!
rasharkin v st galls sfc
:o

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
I`ll do my best from memory. But donr take this as official!

Prelilinary Round. Friday 31st July.

1. Cargin v Moneyglass
2. Lamh Dherg v Gort Na Mona
3  St Pauls v St Johns
4. St Galls v Rasharkin
5. Portglenone v Creggan

Quarter Final. Fri 21 - Sun 23 August.
A. Winners of 3 v 4
B. Winners of 1 v 2
C. St Brigids v Dunloy
D. Winners of 5 v All Saints

Semi Finals. Winners of D v Winners of C.  Winners of A v Winners of B.

Subject to clarification. Sorry, I only got the senior details.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
Portglenone v Creggan and St Galls v St Johns should be good ties.

Cargin would be too strong for Moneyglass but there'll be plenty of bite in that game anyway.

Lamhs, St Galls and St Brigids should have too much in the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 20, 2009, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 20, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
I`ll do my best from memory. But donr take this as official!

Prelilinary Round. Friday 31st July.

1. Cargin v Moneyglass
2. Lamh Dherg v Gort Na Mona
3  St Pauls v St Johns
4. St Galls v Rasharkin
5. Portglenone v Creggan

Quarter Final. Fri 21 - Sun 23 August.
A. Winners of 3 v 4
B. Winners of 1 v 2
C. St Brigids v Dunloy
D. Winners of 5 v All Saints

Semi Finals. Winners of D v Winners of C.  Winners of A v Winners of B.

Subject to clarification. Sorry, I only got the senior details.


Looks like Cargin will play St. Gall's in one semi-final.  Harder to call the other side but I would fancy Portglenone to play (and beat) St. Brigid's.

Certainly the winners of the Creggan / Portglenone match will fancy their chances of a final appearance and anything less than that for either club will be seen as an unmitigated disaster. Particularly so with the Casements who have recent final experience behind them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on January 20, 2009, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 16, 2009, 03:10:25 PM
Are both Kelly and McClean not playing then?

I thought Kelly was coming back for the league and McClean was injured (though I was just guessing the latter).
McClean pretty dedicated or am I mistaken.

Is McClean the lad who missed an championship match for antrim a few years ago becaue he had a holiday booked with the girlfriend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2009, 12:06:00 PM
No, that was Brady...

A Creggan - Cargin final would be a good one.

I fancy Creggan to take Ports.

St Brigids are ever improving too. Not sure what they could do - but I think they're a bit short of Creggan / Portglenone yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2009, 12:40:13 PM
I know the neutrals would have been hoping to keep St Galls and Cargin in different sides of the draw. But the way it has turned out, a lot of teams will be seeing this as a good chance to get to a final at least.

Creggan, under highly rated Ballinderry duo of Mc Ivor and Conway will see this as ideal, and St Brigids seem to be getting closer every year, and who knows what new signings they have picked up in the "close season". Portglenone will just be glad to have missed Cargin and St Galls, but Creggan will be happy enough with this one, with their big c`ship tradition, and a great batch of minors coming through. Dunloy could beat anyone in a one off, and if All Saints repeat the form they showed by dispatchng Moneyglass, they wont overly fear anyone in their side of the draw.

Rasharkin also seem to pull out the stops when it comes to c`ship, and will throw the kitchen sink at mighty Galls. Wont be as much in this as people think, but Rasharkin would have preferred a country venue. The other two are both crackers, St Pauls and St Johns, as well as the Gorts versus Lamh Dearg. Finally, the one team Moneyglass dont fear is Cargin, and again this could be another local cracker!

OK, big two still the ones everyone will fancy, but a lot of teams might see themselves getting some kind of run. Most open C`ship for years, particularly in terms of predicting the two finalists.

Anyone fancy a stab at the odds?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1433 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1433)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 21, 2009, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2009, 12:06:00 PM
No, that was Brady...

A Creggan - Cargin final would be a good one.

I fancy Creggan to take Ports.

St Brigids are ever improving too. Not sure what they could do - but I think they're a bit short of Creggan / Portglenone yet.

why not a Creggan - Galls final imtommygunn? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2009, 08:46:44 PM
neighbourhood rivalry, nothing personal!

Galls appear too good for anyone anyway but cargin creggan would put a bit of life in a final which, through no fault of your own, has been sadly lacking for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 21, 2009, 09:02:12 PM
OK granted. new manager to be brought into Galls this year. surprised at the lack of intrest, not too many wanted the job. but the only team that will beat St galls will be themselves. still very strong and i thought last year Cargin would have pipped us, but it wasn't to be and it may be the case this year again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2009, 09:17:51 PM
It has to be said you guys are a superb team and Cargin probably have a bit of catching up to do. They have the players that should be able to challenge you though bit for one reason or another don't/

If not for Crossmaglen you could have done a bit more. Not sure it's in that team now unfortunately...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 21, 2009, 09:24:10 PM
Sure Gall's manage themselves, they dont need a manager. Cargin have some great young players but i feel they like a ruthlessness up front to be the very best. St Galls should be going for 9 in a row only they slipped up that day due to injuries/complacency etc. They will take some stopping.

St Galls will make the final and Portglenone may make their 3rd or it may be a novel final with Creggan being there, but in reality it wont matter a f**k, you cant look past St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 22, 2009, 08:31:47 AM
I hear Eamon Wilkinson from Ballinderry has been installed as the new Cargin manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 22, 2009, 09:27:47 AM
I may have missed something but has wee James left St Galls?


Cargin Creggan final would be worth attending but can't see past the Galls (with or without manager).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bitta-Banter on January 22, 2009, 10:14:28 AM
I hear St Brigids have made a good few new signings over the winter.They seem more interested in recruitin rather than bringing through their own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 22, 2009, 05:48:54 PM
I`d be the first to admit that St Brigids are good for Antrim Football. They are destined to be a massive club, and increased competition can only be a good thing. A lot of professional people settling in the area, and Id say it wont be long before their juvenile set up cranks up a few gears as well.

They seem to "up the ante" every year by about 20% from the year before, and at that rate I definitely wouldnt bet against them winning a senior c`ship in next two/three years.

Or if they "just happen to stumble across" a few more like Dara Edwards every year, who knows, maybe sooner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2009, 02:07:18 PM
There are many Sean O'Neill's about.

Sure there are two in the Tyrone panel...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 23, 2009, 03:02:42 PM
and one from Davitt's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2009, 04:47:57 AM
So which Sean O Neill is it? By the way, the Davitts version is a helluva player. The unsung hero of that decent minor team of a few years ago. He is a goalkeeper in the Irish league though - might make committment difficult. But definitely county class in my book.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 26, 2009, 01:22:40 PM
for anyone who's interested, kevin madden is on superdocs tonight bbc1 9pm.
bbc follows him in a sort of documentary about his heart surgery.
i wonder will he give break for ball a mention, lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 26, 2009, 11:41:11 PM
It was certainly a shame to see Madden's career cut short by his heart issues.
As regards the programme he was a super ambassador for the GAA this evening both speaking very well and showing strength and determination.
A pretty good Gael in my eyes and I wish him luck in whatever he does.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mattockranger on January 27, 2009, 01:39:50 PM
Excellent insight last night to the salt of the earth that is Kevin madden!

a fine Role model to any aspiring gael!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 27, 2009, 01:49:32 PM
have to agree a good programme last night about Kevin a great Gael , fine role model and big loss to Antrim football,hope Derry dont hold on to him too long and we soon see him back in his home county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 27, 2009, 01:52:41 PM
is it on bbc i player?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 27, 2009, 02:03:01 PM
Unbelievable that he was within 2 minutes of being brian damaged. Fcuk that was scary. The surgeon seemed unfazed. Next time i think im under pressure here at work, i will know its not pressure compared to what some people do for a living.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 27, 2009, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 27, 2009, 01:52:41 PM
is it on bbc i player?

yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2009, 03:20:16 PM
To think that Kevin topped the NFL scoring charts, while playing with a defective valve in the heart, just goes to show the mettle of the man. A credit to our county.

His own football "journey" still a work in progress. When he steps up to the plate with his own county in a few short years, he will be the real deal. His own playing days were cruelly cut short, but Id say his finest chapters are still to be written. In Saffron.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: away on at wit ye on January 29, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
why aren't paul close, andy mc clean and sean kelly in the NFL squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 29, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
Any thoughts on the team for Sunday?

Will be interesting to see how whoever picks up Leighton Glynn does (if he is playing for them at this stage). He had a stormer in the international rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 30, 2009, 09:13:15 AM
Those are some good thoughts on the team HS...

Will be interested to see how Connor Murray stands up the physical challenge of county football as well.
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2009, 10:23:07 AM
Some amount of left footers in the forward line...

I'd still like to see a bigger man at FF. Glad to see Loughrey in the half forwards though and Gallagher may be more at home in MF. Haven't seen much of O'Hagan but looks a good see if maybe not the most physical.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 30, 2009, 11:02:14 AM
We can still be picking TS at this stage can we, surely there is a better option out there in the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2009, 11:23:41 AM
His attacking runs are as good as a lot of half backs you'll see.

Granted the distribution is not great but if he can do those runs and lay it off then he definitely has his place in the team.

Personally I think he's well worth his place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on January 30, 2009, 11:28:36 AM
ITG

I understand where you are coming from. But if his distribution hasnt improved by now then it is not likely to in the next while either he has been around a right while now. I dont like criticising players and I can see his merits, but to be honest I am fed up watching him running with the ball down blind allys and carrying the ball into contact and turning it over leaving the defence a man short up the field and opposition breaking on us.
I also have to say that if I was an inside forward it would kill me making runs for him when you know he is not going to release the ball regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 30, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
we must be the smallest county in Ireland. i'm talking county players of course.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 30, 2009, 01:18:59 PM
yeah im surprised Daragh Edwards didnt get a start--i thought he'd be thrown in at full forward

are forward line must be the smallest in Ireland --im glad Loughrey is at half forward as that gives a bit of height in the forwards, the rest r very small although i heard Murray can leap but am yet to see it

im most counties McCann and Gallagher wouldnt be big enough for midfield and would be in the half forwards

Anyway, hopefully we can beat Wicklow and get off the ground running
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2009, 02:41:14 PM
Plenty of engine in that team, and plenty of football too. But definitely very light up front on what is sure to be testing underfoot conditions. Agree that Edwards presence up front could be needed. I also think Niblock is the strongest ball winner we have, and reckon it wont be long before his brute strength is preferred in the half forward line.

TS some great qualities, and a good manager would soon put an end to any wastage in the distribution stakes, as the stats dont lie. If he gets that part of his game up to scratch, then he is in on merit.

Home venue is a big positive for this match, and even at this early this is a big game for us. Lets get up and make a bit of atmosphere and get behind the team early on, and stay with them till the points are safe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2009, 10:55:52 PM
Need a win or the season (and straight talking Liam Bradley's career) are effectively over.

Who's in charge of the under 21s?

I was out walking my Bull Staff along Finaghy Road (North) last evening. Passing Woodlands I couldn't help but notice a group of young men in Antrim tracksuits lounging round the gates. Apparently this was the under-21 squad waiting for someone to turn the floodlights on. They weren't turned on at any stage (the lights that is, not the players, although most likely the players weren't turned on either). The squad went home.

Shambles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 30, 2009, 11:06:36 PM
You have to admit we do "Shambles" more frequently and with more style than anyone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 31, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
aye sam, was speaking to that player who ya thought was going to hurl ;) and he said the lights didn't work, boys coming 50/60 miles to train and no lights. so what do you do? you f*ucking train in the dark. a bit of physical training and put the night to good use
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
Still in the dark ages!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
anyone at the match? was away playing a game so missed it.

beat my bet also  >:( 

are we doomed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 01, 2009, 11:38:06 PM
i was there. we should have won. Wicklow were atrocious.
Tony Scullion shouldnt be allowed to kick a ball again--there is no room at this level for stupid footballers--surely someone must have taken him aside and said to him to lay the ball off--hes a great engine but refuses to play it simple--when the simple hand pass is on--he hoofs it with no direction--worst case in point was in the last play of the game when he kicked it over the heads of the full forward line and it bounced into the keepers hands. Disgusting.

I mean why does he persist in kicking high balls in the direction of the smallest and weakest full forward line in Ireland?

3 goals and 6 points from frees--Wicklow were shite. 3 jammy goals--Antrim were about 7-2 up at one stage and coasting--i dont know what happened. Last goal was just hoofed in and the full forward caught the ball over the full backs head and buried it--schoolboy stuff. Kevin O'Boyle did quite well at the back, Loughrey was class and at the heart of most scores, while Mick McCann and Aidso were brilliant at times in Midfield. Unfortunetly Mick McCann missed right at the death that would have won the game(for about the 3rd time) but missed it in the same way Vernon did in the McKenna Cup Final.

A loss against such weak opposition would have been a disaster, but a draw was poor.

Full forward line was very poor--CJ and P Cunningham refuse to show for the ball, hiding in behind looking for the ball over the top--this is not Primary School football--we need someone who can get out to f**k and win the ball. The aforementioned hit numerous wides from ridiculous angles and must have thought that the Wicklow keeper was a Saffron given the amount of passes they lofted  into his hands.

We did score a couple of nice points however, usually when Loughrey and Mick McCann were flying through. Murray scored 2 on the end of such moves in the 1st half but didnt do much else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 02, 2009, 10:18:50 AM
Agree with all you said Gold. Very good summation.

We need to know our strengths and our limitations and that goes for each specific player. Tony Scullion could be quite an effective player if he never kicked the ball...break, hassle, harry speed away from a man and then lay off the ball immediately. He hoofs it constantly - where it goes no one knows, even Tony (especially Tony).
Gallagher made up for some poor poor loss of possession (I would sayalmost 5 times) by some brilliant catching...again know your limitations and strengths.

O'Hagan did grand in the first half when Antrim were largely dominant (and didn't make the most of this dominance). Stray handpass eventually led to their penalty but it wasn't a penalty and it was saved by Sean anyway. O'Hagan got a bad knock to the face when trying and failing to stop one of Wicklow's goals and went off as a blood sub not coming back on.

Couldn't agree more about the full forward line not showing. If they made a 1/2 or a 1/4 of the runs that the Armagh/Tyrone/Kerry full forward lines make then we would have won easily.
Worst was CJ calling for a huge high ball in. Close delivered a good ball that would have been perfect for a Donaghy type target man and he went for it, was beaten to it and stayed on the ground clutching his face for a bit?!
Now he might be able to time that jump in the Antrim league, come out from behind a man, nick it from him and pop it over but that doesn't wash at that level (which isn't a very bloody high level).
He also was unbelievably greedy near the end of the first half when he could have taken a point or laid it off to another for a goal but chose to go himself.
Now I am a fan of CJ, don't get me wrong, but if he doesn't start making those runs, play a bit for the team, play the simple pass now and again and bulk up a bit we may lose him. Can you imagine Mickey Magee/McMenamin from Tyrone marking him - eaten alive I'd say.

Antrim can't afford any more slip ups from here and that's a shame as the Sligo game will be very tough.
Negativity aside when we played it simple, worked hard and broke through we didn't look the worst.

Its a roller coaster of emotions being an Antrim supporter - my missis is starting to learn to leave me a bit of breathing space when I get back from a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: away on at wit ye on February 02, 2009, 04:18:54 PM
was at the game yesterday too. agree very much with most of what glensman and gold have already said. although once again we failed to grind out a result, i did come away particularly encouraged by some of our free flowing football at times, in particular loughrey, cairan close and michael mc cann. aidso gallagher, despite the odd mistake, did show plenty of bite and passion throughout the game and didn't let his head drop. it's easy to sit and say how the team should be picked from sitting in the stand but it's clear we need a big, strong, physical ball-winner in the full foward line. the likes of dara edwards or niblock would be ideal for laying it off to tomás, cj or paddy cunningham. it's also a pity magill has a job in london as his physical presence was missed yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 03, 2009, 01:59:35 PM
What is Tony Scullion on about in the Irish News today? Cant he see that he is the problem?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on February 03, 2009, 03:29:11 PM
Gold I have to say I said it last week before the game and he proved me right. There is a reason that he runs with his head down and doesnt pass the ball now it is clear that he cant kick it.
If I had the game he had at the weekend the last thing I would do this week is be in the paper but I guess thats half the problem with both the hurling and the football teams at the moment, they are getting recognition for very poor performances.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 03, 2009, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 03, 2009, 03:29:11 PM
Gold I have to say I said it last week before the game and he proved me right. There is a reason that he runs with his head down and doesnt pass the ball now it is clear that he cant kick it.
If I had the game he had at the weekend the last thing I would do this week is be in the paper but I guess thats half the problem with both the hurling and the football teams at the moment, they are getting recognition for very poor performances.

Exactly. I was so shocked i felt i had to portray that shock here.

Listen, if i was taking an u-12 team and someone kept kicking the ball like that id have to take them aside and told them what they were doing wrong and to never do it again---never mind a Senior County footballer.
I dont like slating individuals but enough is enough, if he keeps doing the same thing he and we are going to get the same results. Possession is vital. Look at Tyrone, they rarely if ever lose the head and just hoof the ball, TS does it 9 times out of 10 when he gets the ball.

Many players are great, class acts at Club level but will never make it at County level as they refuse to do the simple things. Good County players do the simple things and take the best option 95% of the time.

Another thing is CJ refuses to do the simple thing, hes always looking for the outrageous score or an eye of a needle pass that isnt on. It looked ridiculous the other day and i couldnt believe he didnt get whipped off.

As a supporter it is a relief every time a player gets a ball, gains 10 yards and finds his man with the hand or foot. Simple flowing football. No hoofs or ridiculous passes or shots. Is that to much to ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on February 04, 2009, 01:35:22 PM
I haven't any knowledge of the man at all, but was taking a nosy at the Irish News interview, and it seems to support your point!

From it:  "Antrim have struggled to make any tangible impact in the NFL and Championship since Scullion first donned the saffron jersey."
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bitta-Banter on February 05, 2009, 12:07:49 PM
Nice bit of editing there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Larry Duff on February 06, 2009, 10:41:09 PM
Squad v Kilkenny

1 Sean Mac Fionmhacain    John Finucane Lamh Dhearg
2 Coilin Ó Bradaigh Colin Brady Naomh Gall
3 Sean Mac an Bheatha Sean McVeigh Naomh Uile
4 Caoimhin Ó Baoill Kevin O'Boyle Clann na hEireann
5 Antaine Ó Scollain Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann
6 Deaglan Ó hAgain Deaglan O'Hagan Naomh Brid
7 Saerbhreathach Cruiseir Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
8 Micheal Mac Cana Michael McCann Clann na hEireann
9 Aodhan Ó Gallchoir Aidan Gallagher Naomh Gall
10 Seamas Ó Luachra James Loughrey Naomh Brid
11 Ciaran Ó Cluasaigh   Ciaran Close Clann na hEireann
12 Conchur Ó Muiri Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
13Tomas Mac Cana Tomás McCann Clann na hEireann
14 Padraig Ó Cuinneagain Patrick Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
15 Conchur Eoin Mac Dhorchaidh C J McGourty Naomh Gall
16Sean Mag Riabhaigh  Sean McGreevey Naomh Pól
17 Pól Ó Conallain Paul Conlon Gort na Mona
18 Diarmuid Mac Cana  Dermot McCann Ciceam Creágan
19 Caoimhin Mac Uilin   Kevin Mc Quillan Dun Laitha
20 Breandan Ó hOsain  Benny Hasson Naomh Mhuire
21 Niall Ó Conaill Neil O Connell Ahoghill
22 Caoimhin Ó Bradaigh Kevin Brady Naomh Eargnaid
23 Sean de Burca Sean Burke Naomh Gall
24 Marcas Ó Duagain Mark Dougan Ciceam Creágan

Surprised there are no changes from the Wicklow game.  Thought Edwards might have got a chance, to add a bit of physical presence to the forward line. Why is he not even in the panel? Is he injured? Hope he hasn't become disillusioned with the county set up already :-\

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cruncher on February 07, 2009, 01:29:25 PM
Disappointed to see no change in forward line as we are far too small and light!!! Edwards may well have walked out as he'd be known for being fairly tempermental. We need the like of niblock in there to win more ball which the current forward line seem afraid to do! Also, scullion needs to go before he causes any more damage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on February 07, 2009, 11:14:17 PM
pretty sure edwards didnt walk out, but mebbe i'll be corrected. just going by what reading here is it not just scullions distribution that is the problem? ie if hes playing whb then if hes doing primary job well then worth his place, and mebbe someone should just make sure they're screaming for a handpass whenever he wins the ball?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2009, 09:21:44 AM
Agree. TS getting bad press here, and I get a feeling some of it is personal. Has enough football good qualities to be in consideration for a regular place, and his consistent problem of distribution could/should easily enough be solved by a two way approach to solve the problem by player/manager.

Is he fully aware of the problem. Has he seen his ind stats?. Has he been given any ind target to achieve in his distribution?

And of the wayward stuff, how many times has a better option been available? As you say Haranguerer, is our teams support play good enough. Certainly it was my main criticism of last weeks performance. The options open to him (and others) were often limited. But its a two way street, and definitely solvable.

A decent performance and scoreline yesterday will do the morale of the team no harm, and promotion still a big possibility.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2009, 09:57:59 AM
CJ skins Cats

Antrim 4-27

Kilkenny 0-5

Conor John McCourty hit a personal best inter-county score of 3-5 when he crucified Kilkenny in this one-sided NFL game at Nowlan Park.

Patrick Cunningham kicked the winners' opening point after 22 seconds and it was one-way traffic after that. By the 10th minute, Antrim were 2-6 to 0-0 clear, thanks to goals from McCourty and Ciaran Close.

By half-time, the difference was a yawning 3-14 to 0-3 after it had taken the losers 27 minutes to open their account.

Scorers -- Antrim: CJ McCourty 3-5; P Cunningham 0-9 (4f); C Close 1-3; M McCann 0-4; A Gallagher, J Loughrey, C Murray, K Brady, M. Pollock, M Dougan (f) 0-1 each.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 08, 2009, 10:26:16 AM
They beat what was put in front of them. As we beat Kilkenny in the football by more than they beat us in the hurling we are a better GAA county are we not. Camogie would be tight. Handball I'd give to us. Scor, us hand down.

Edwards still on board and came on yesterday. Will hopefully get more game time as noted be a few here as he hs a very good option for the forward line or even midfield.

Team/panel named on the website was wrong...either sloppy journalism or Antrim just gave them that team. Don't think Sean Burke was travelling and he was down on the panel.

Anyone got the full team/subs from yesterday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2009, 10:44:17 AM
Antrim: J Finucane; C Brady, S McVeigh, K O'Boyle; T Scullion, D O'Hagan, J Crozier; M McCann, A Gallagher; J Loughry, C Close, C Murray; K Brady, P Cunningham, CJ McGourty. Subs: B Hasson for Gallagher 41; K McQuillan for Crozier 49; D Edwards for Close 51; M Dougan for McGourty 55; N O'Connell for McCann 61.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2009, 02:12:16 PM
The Gaa board could gather up a team that would beat Kilkenny
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 09, 2009, 09:31:01 AM
Handball

Female - Fiona Shannon and Aisling Reilly have it sown up over the last couple of years.

Men - who cares, really... Ducksy Walsh blows us out of the water in days gone by but I'd say we're up there now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 09, 2009, 01:43:43 PM
Put that shite in the Handball section
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 09, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
Calm yourself Gold. Just building up the case that we're better than Kilkenny...

Anyone for the Clare match then? Perfect treat for Valentines day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on February 09, 2009, 04:08:20 PM
Many for the Clare game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on February 09, 2009, 06:39:31 PM
Is Nial McKeever (Porglenone & UUJ) on liam bradleys squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 09, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
How's Deaghlan O'Hagan doing at CHB? Was in school with him and played against him during his Sarsfields days. Wouldn't have had him down as an inter-county player to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on February 09, 2009, 07:31:01 PM
glensman catch urself on for f**k sake,kilkennys hurlers would beat antrim footballers in a football match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 09, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
im for the Clare game i hope. Good draw between the Deise and the Garden. Wicklow are worse than shite. Glensman im mad about Football and Antrim Football. I dont think enough people are and enough people care. I dont think i can calm down till we get out of the gutter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 09, 2009, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 09, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
I dont think i can calm down till we get out of the gutter.

That'd be a class song for the Casement faithful. Or a motto.

To the tune of The Gambler.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: away on at wit ye on February 10, 2009, 01:04:08 PM
Quote from: gallsman on February 09, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
How's Deaghlan O'Hagan doing at CHB? Was in school with him and played against him during his Sarsfields days. Wouldn't have had him down as an inter-county player to be honest.

as far as i know, o hagain played for sarsfields when he before st brigids had a club in his local area. i dont think you can say he wasnt inter county material when youre talking about such a young age. he was outstanding for qub in the mckenna cup and played well against wicklow but came off with a blood injury to the face.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 10, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
Calm yourself Hightower.
Kilkenny hurlers would not beat Antrim footballers at football...that is just simply bulls1t and a stupid statement.

Agree with what you said on "O'Hagan away on at with ye". There are a few players in both our county squads who weren't stand out at the younger side of juvenile but have made a step up through the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cruncher on February 11, 2009, 09:58:00 AM
O'Hagan has improved year on year at st brigids. He has played since their formation and therefore began his senior football in the lowest division. He has improved as the club have and is now one of the best player in one of the best clubs in the county. He will no doubt prove to be a great asset for antrim in the coming years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on February 12, 2009, 12:03:34 PM
Quote from: Cruncher on February 11, 2009, 09:58:00 AM
O'Hagan has improved year on year at st brigids. He has played since their formation and therefore began his senior football in the lowest division. He has improved as the club have and is now one of the best player in one of the best clubs in the county. He will no doubt prove to be a great asset for antrim in the coming years.

He's still not good enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on February 13, 2009, 11:54:38 AM
I take it Antrim will be getting the two points from the Wicklow game with them having played an illegal player, could be a handy extra point come the end of the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2009, 12:09:41 PM
What's the story there?

Haven't heard anything about this...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on February 13, 2009, 12:29:07 PM
Wicklow forward Seanie Furlong could be facing a lengthy ban for playing a match while under suspension.

The Kiltegan clubman, who has been Wicklow's top forward this season, received a straight red card in last month's O'Byrne Cup final defeat to Louth, yet played in the Garden County's opening NFL match against Antrim two weeks ago.

Apparently, Wicklow chiefs were either informed or under the impression that an O'Byrne Cup red card sending off did not carry over to the league and would apply to next year's O'Byrne Cup instead. Furthermore, Furlong's two second half goals were crucial in Mick O'Dwyer's side securing a draw with the Saffrons.



It only came to light last weekend that Wicklow may have erred in playing Furlong against Antrim, and consequently he sat out last Saturday's drawn NFL clash with Waterford in Aughrim.

The matter is due to come before the CCCC at its next meeting and Wicklow chiefs are keeping their fingers crossed that their star forward will avoid a lengthy suspension.


Id say that is a clear case of losing the points for the game he played in previously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on February 13, 2009, 02:27:25 PM
If this is true that point could be vital. Especially after him not playing the following week. He bagged 2-01 against Antrim aswell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2009, 12:04:17 AM
QuoteA goal and eight points from full-forward and captain Paddy Cunningham steered Antrim to a well deserved seven point win over Clare in Division 4 of the National Football League at Casement Park on Saturday night.
Cunningham's goal after five minutes, following a defence splitting pass by CJ McGourty, settled the Saffrons after Clare had shocked them with a goal inside forty seconds, and the Lamh Dhearg man went on to add eight points over the seventy minutes, in a faultless free taking display.
Again Antrim left their fans frustrated as their finishing failed to match the chances created, but new manager Liam Bradley must have been pleased with their work rate and endeavour as they each and everyone of them gave 100%.
Cunningham's goal, and three excellent points from midfielder Michael McCann, helped the home side to a 1-7 to 1-3 half-time lead, a scoreline which certainly did not flatter them.
They started the second-half well and stretched that lead to five, but they lost their way a little for a fifteen minute spell before regaining the upper hand and securing two more valuable league points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2009, 10:59:46 AM
In today's Sunday Times there's a sort of 'where are they now' piece on the '89 AI team. Inside back page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2009, 11:30:41 AM
Surely more hurling... Must buy that.

Good win over Clare. They're a team antrim have struggled to beat before. If we get the 2 points for Wicklow, even if we don't, that's a good points total. If we get points against Sligo it should be looking good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on February 15, 2009, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 15, 2009, 10:59:46 AM
In today's Sunday Times there's a sort of 'where are they now' piece on the '89 AI team. Inside back page.

Is this the Irish version of the sunday times in the uk, or the Sunday version of the Irish Times?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 15, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
Glens73 if you live in the North go and buy the Sunday Times. Its in there.

No such thing as a Sunday version of the Irish Times.

A great day that was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on February 15, 2009, 05:09:56 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 15, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
Glens73 if you live in the North go and buy the Sunday Times. Its in there.

No such thing as a Sunday version of the Irish Times.

A great day that was.

I live in Lancashire. I'll just have to wait and see if it comes on their webiste.

I would be very interested in reading it as I went to a lot of the hurlers games around that time and I was at both Croke Park games in 1989.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 16, 2009, 09:40:01 AM
You play over there Glens? I played football for St Peters for a couple of years in Manchester.

I'll try and remember to bring it in tomorrow and scan it in for you if I can do that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2009, 06:18:32 PM
i take it that Paddy Cunningham is the Antrim captain for the year, so that will rule him out of going to the states, so thats a bonus. what attributes will he bring to the changing room? good footballer and curved ball from the Bradley man i thought in naming him captain. great honour. is he the first Lamhs man to captain Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on February 16, 2009, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 16, 2009, 09:40:01 AM
You play over there Glens? I played football for St Peters for a couple of years in Manchester.

I'll try and remember to bring it in tomorrow and scan it in for you if I can do that.

I don't play, no. I've never even been to watch a match over here, live in Preston and the nearest Gaa club is/was in Manchester.

The offer is much appreciated regarding the scan, I'll pm you my e-mail.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
Well i suppose when CJ and Cunningham are arguing over who is taking a handy free Cunningham will be able to pull rank now and say he is the captain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 16, 2009, 09:19:47 PM
Good result at the weekend..Bannside were you at it...a full report would be appreciated...especially one from someone as knowledgable as your good self ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 17, 2009, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
Well i suppose when CJ and Cunningham are arguing over who is taking a handy free Cunningham will be able to pull rank now and say he is the captain.

you must be joking minder nobody pulls rank on a McGourty ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 17, 2009, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
Well i suppose when CJ and Cunningham are arguing over who is taking a handy free Cunningham will be able to pull rank now and say he is the captain.

PC pulled rank in the Wicklow game and hit a shocking penalty wide.

CJ walked away shaking his head like Christmas had been cancelled. A supportive teammate if ever I saw one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snappiered on February 18, 2009, 09:50:54 AM
Can anyone hear tell me who the St. Galls manager for this year is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 17, 2009, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
Well i suppose when CJ and Cunningham are arguing over who is taking a handy free Cunningham will be able to pull rank now and say he is the captain.

PC pulled rank in the Wicklow game and hit a shocking penalty wide.

CJ walked away shaking his head like Christmas had been cancelled. A supportive teammate if ever I saw one.

Im sure i will be set straight here but my personal opinion is that those two chaps seem more interested in getting as big a scoring tally as possible and getting a nice write up in the Irish News and are not too worried whether it is win/lose or draw.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on February 18, 2009, 02:51:37 PM
That has been the case for too many of the players hurling and football for the past number of years, I wouldnt mind seeing a blankett ban on players speaking to the Irish News / Press in general, very seldom any good comes from it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 18, 2009, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 18, 2009, 02:51:37 PM
That has been the case for too many of the players hurling and football for the past number of years, I wouldnt mind seeing a blankett ban on players speaking to the Irish News / Press in general, very seldom any good comes from it!

exactly, if i played i wouldnt say a word to the Irish News, not one word. Not if we beat Donegal, not if we got to Ulster Final, not a word. Total focus. If i played i wouldnt even tell my family or friends--at the moment it doesnt mean much to play for Antrim--only way to change that is to turn fortunes around until real people notice--not some stupid young Irish News reporter looking to fill a bit of space in his paper when he is sent to cover a lowly Div 4 game who is only too happy to get a quote from any spoon to say how well they played v London
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snappiered on February 19, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
None of yous told me yet who the St. Galls manager for this year is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2009, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: snappiered on February 19, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
None of yous told me yet who the St. Galls manager for this year is?

why do you need to know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on February 19, 2009, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: snappiered on February 19, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
None of yous told me yet who the St. Galls manager for this year is?

They don't need a manager. The can win the Antrim championship managing themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffroninho on February 20, 2009, 09:20:53 PM
First post, have been looking on at this discussion board for quiet a while now and might as well give my views now and again! Up Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on February 20, 2009, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: saffroninho on February 20, 2009, 09:20:53 PM
First post, have been looking on at this discussion board for quiet a while now and might as well give my views now and again! Up Antrim!

Come on then....whats your views??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on February 19, 2009, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: snappiered on February 19, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
None of yous told me yet who the St. Galls manager for this year is?

They don't need a manager. The can win the Antrim championship managing themselves.

I hear some boy McKeown and Sheehan are taking them this year.  They will not do too much under these boyos.  Lamh Dhearg may have a chance this year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 03:51:55 PM
football thread dumbass :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on February 23, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
   Fixtures 2009   

Sunday, 8th March      
   Game   Time
Division 3 Football   St Agnes v St. Gall's   14.00
   St. Teresa's v Cargin   14.00
   Davitt's v Rasharkin   14.00
   Aldergrove v Ardoyne   14.00
    Glenravel v McDermotts   14.00
Division 4 Football   Creggan v Eire Og   14.00
   Gort na Mona v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   St. John's v St. Malachy's   14.00
   St. Paul's v Cargin   14.00
   Portglenone v Glenavy   14.00
Division 5 Football   O'Donnell's v St. Brigid's   14.00
   St. Enda's v St. Gall's   14.00
   Sarsfield's v Aldergrove   14.00
   Ballymena v Ballycastle   14.00
   Dunloy v Bye   
Sunday, 15th March      
Division 3 Football Rd 2   Cargin v St. Agnes'   14.00
   St. Gall's v Davitt's   14.00
   Glenravel v St. Teresa's   14.00
   Ardoyne v McDermott's   14.00
   Rasharkin v Aldergrove   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 2   Lamh Dhearg v Creggan   14.00
   Eire Og v St. John's   14.00
   Glenavy v Gort na Mona   14.00
   Cargin v Portglenone   14.00
   St. Malachy's v St. Paul's   14.00
Division 5 Football Rd 2   St. Gall's v O'Donnell's   14.00
   St. Brigid's v Sarsfield's   14.00
   Ballycastle v Dunloy   14.00
   Aldergrove v Ballymena   14.00
   Bye v St. Enda's   
Sunday, 22nd March      
Division 3 Football Rd 3   Rasharkin  v  McDermotts   14.00
   Cargin v Glenravel   14.00
   St. Agnes' v Davitt's   14.00
   St. Teresa's v Ardoyne   14.00
   Aldergrove v St. Gall's   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 3   Portglenone v St. Malachy's   14.00
   Lamh Dhearg v Glenavy   14.00
   Creggan v St. John's   14.00
   Gort na Mona v Cargin   14.00
   St. Paul's v Eire Og   14.00
Division 5 Football Rd 3   Dunloy v Aldergrove   14.00
   O'Donnell's v Sarsfield's   14.00
   St. Enda's v Ballycastle   14.00
   Ballymena v St. Brigid's   14.00
   St. Gall's v Bye   
Division 6 Rd 1   Lisburn v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Moneyglass v Ahoghill   14.00
   Rossa v Mitchel's   14.00
   Antrim v Bye   

Sunday, 29th March   Game   Time
Division 3 Football Rd 4    St.Galls v McDermotts   14.00
   Davitt's v Aldergrove   14.00
   Ardoyne v Cargin   14.00
   Glenravel v St. Agnes'   14.00
   Rasharkin v St. Teresa's   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 4   Portglenone v Eire Og   14.00
   St. John's v St. Paul's   14.00
   Cargin v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   Glenavy v Creggan   14.00
   St. Malachy's v Gort na Mona   14.00
Division 5 Football Rd 4   Dunloy v St. Brigid's   14.00
   Sarsfield's v Ballymena   14.00
   Ballycastle v St. Gall's   14.00
   Aldergrove v St. Enda's   14.00
   Bye v O'Donnell's   14.00
Sunday, 5th April      
Division 1 Football Rd 1   St. Paul's v St. Brigid's   14.00
   Cargin v Creggan   15.30
   St. Gall's v Glenavy   15.30
   St. John's v Portglenone   14.30
   Rasharkin v Moneyglass   14.00
Division 2 Football Rd 1   Gort na Mona v Lamh Dhearg   15.30
   St. Enda's v Aghagallon   15.30
   Tir na n'Og v Sarsfield's   15.30
   Rossa v Ahoghill   14.00
   Dunloy v Ballymena   15.30
Division 3 Football Rd 5   Cargin v Rasharkin   14.00
   St. Agnes' v Aldergrove   14.00
   St. Teresa's v St. Gall's   14.00
   Glenravel v Ardoyne   14.00
   McDermott's v Davitt's   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 5   Lamh Dhearg v St. Malachy's   14.00
   Creggan v St. Paul's   14.00
   Gort na Mona v Eie Og   14.00
   Glenavy v Cargin   14.00
   St Johns v Portglenone   13.00
Division 5 Football Rd 5   St. Gall's v Aldergrove   14.00
   O'Donnell's v Ballymena   14.00
   St. Enda's v St. Brigid's   14.00
   Dunloy v Sarsfield's   14.00
   Bye v Ballycastle   14.00
Division 6 Football Rd 2   Tir na n'Og v Moneyglass   14.00
   Mitchel's v Antrim   14.00
   Ahoghill v Lisburn   14.00
   Rossa v Bye   14.00
Wednesday, 22nd April      
Division 1 Football Rd 2   Creggan v St. Paul's   18.45
   St. Brigid's v St. Gall's   18.45
   Moneyglass v Cargin   18.45
   Portglenone v Rasharkin   18.45
   Glenavy v St. John's   18.45
Division 2 Football Rd 2   St. Mary's v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Lamh Dhearg v Tir na n'Og   19.00
   Ballymena v St. Enda's   19.00
   Ahoghill v Dunloy   19.00
   Sarsfield's v Rossa   19.00
Division 3 Football Rd 6   St. Gall's v Cargin   19.00
   Davitt's v St. Teresa's   19.00
   Ardoyne v St. Agnes'   19.00
   Rasharkin v Glenravel   19.00
   Aldergrove v McDermott's   19.00
Division 4 Football Rd 6   Eire Og v Lamh Dhearg   19.00
   St. John's v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Cargin v Creggan   19.00
   St. Malachy's v Glenavy   19.00   
   St. Paul's v Portglenone   19.00   
Division 5 Football Rd 6   St. Brigid's v St. Gall's   18.30   Mon 20th
    St. Enda's  v Sarsfields      
   Ballycastle v O'Donnell's   19.15   
    Dunloy  v Ballymena   19.00   
   Aldergrove v Bye      

Wednesday, 29th April      
Division 1 Football Rd 3   Rasharkin v Glenavy   18.45
   Creggan v Moneyglass   18.45
   St. Paul's v St. Gall's   18.45
   Cargin v Portglenone   20.00
   St. John's v St. Brigid's   18.45
Division 2 Football Rd 3   Dunloy v Sarsfield's   19.00
   Aghagallon v Ballymena   19.00
   Gort na Mona v Tir na n'Og   19.00
   St. Enda's v Ahoghill   19.00
   Rossa v Lamh Dhearg   19.00
Division 3 Football Rd 7   Cargin v Davitt's   18.45
   St. Agnes' v McDermott's   19.00
   St. Teresa's v Aldergrove   19.00
   Glenravel v St. Gall's   19.00
   Ardoyne v Rasharkin   19.00
Division 4 Football Rd 7   Lamh Dhearg v St. John's   19.00
   Creggan v Portglenone   
   Gort na Mona v St. Paul's   
   Glenavy v Eire Og   19.00
    St. Malachy's  v Cargin   18.45
Division 5 Football Rd 7   St. Gall's v Sarsfield's   19.00
   O'Donnell's v Dunloy   19.00
     Ballymena  v  St Endas   19.00
   Ballycastle v Aldergrove   19.00
   Bye v St. Brigid's   
Sunday, 10th May      
Division 1 Football Rd 4   Rasharkin v St. Brigid's   15.30
   St. Gall's v St. John's   15.30
   Portglenone v Creggan   15.30
   Moneyglass v St. Paul's   14.00
   Glenavy v Cargin   14.00
Division 2 Football Rd 4   Dunloy v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   Tir na n'Og v Rossa   
   Ahoghill v Aghagallon   14.30
   Ballymena v Gort na Mona   14.00
   Sarsfield's v St. Enda's   14.00
Division 3 Football Rd 8   St. Gall's v Ardoyne   14.00
   Davitt's v Glenravel   14.00
   Aldergrove v Cargin   14.00
    St. Teresa's  v McDermotts   14.00
   Rasharkin v St. Agnes'   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 8   Eire Og v Cargin   14.00
   St. John's v Glenavy   14.00
   St. Paul's v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   Portglenone v Gort na Mona   14.00
   St. Malachy's v Creggan   14.00
Division 5 Footbal Rd 8   St. Brigid's v Ballycastle   14.00
   Ballymena v St. Gall's   14.00
   Dunloy v St. Enda's   14.00
   Aldergrove v O'Donnell's   14.00
Sunday, 10th May   Game   Time
Division 6 Football Rd 4   Ahoghill v Antrim   13.00
Sunday, 17th May      
Division 6 Football Rd 5   Lisburn v Moneyglass   14.00
   Tir na n'Og v Ahoghill   14.00
   Rossa v Antrim   13.00
   Mitchel's v Bye   
Sunday, 3rd June      
Division 1 Football Rd 5   St. Brigid's v Portglenone   19.00
   St. Gall's v Moneyglass   19.30
   St. John's v Creggan   19.00
   Rasharkin v Cargin   19.30
   Glenavy v St. Paul's   19.30
Division 2 Football Rd 5   Aghagallon v Sarsfield's   19.00
   Gort na Mona v Sarsfield's   19.00
   St. Enda's v Lamh Dhearg   19.00
   Ballymena v Ahoghill   19.00
   Dunloy v Tir na n'Og   19.00
Division 3 Football Rd 9   Cargin v McDermott's   19.00
   St. Agnes' v St. Teresa's   19.00
   Glenravel v Aldergrove   19.00
   Ardoyne v Davitt's   19.00
   Rasharkin v St. Gall's   18.00
Division 4 Football Rd 9   Lamh Dhearg v Portglenone   19.00
      
   Creggan v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Glenavy v St. Paul's   18.00
   Cargin v St. John's   19.00
   St. Malachy's v Eire Og   19.00
Division 5 Football Rd 9   St. Gall's v Dunloy   17.30
   O'Donnell's v St. Enda's   19.00
   Ballycastle v Sarsfield's   19.00
   Aldergrove v St. Brigid's   19.00
   Bye v Ballymena   
Division 6 Football Rd6   Antrim v Lisburn   19.00
Sunday, 21st June   Game   Time
Division 6 Football Rd 6   Moneyglass v Rossa   14.00
   Ahoghill v Mitchel's   14.00
   Bye v Tir na n'Og   
Wednesday, 24th June      
Division 1 Football Rd 6   St. Brigid's v Creggan   19.45
   St. Gall's v Cargin   19.45
   Portglenone v St. Paul's   19.45
   Glenavy v Moneyglass   19.45
   St. John's v Rasharkin   19.45
Division 2 Football Rd 6   Lamh Dhearg v Aghagallon   19.45
   Tir na n'Og v St. Enda's   19.00
   Ahoghill v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Sarsfield's v Ballymena   19.00
   Rossa v Dunloy   19.00
Division 3 Football Rd 10   St. Gall's v St. Agnes'   18.30
   Cargin v St. Teresa's   19.00
   Rasharkin v Davitt's   19.00
   Ardoyne v Aldergrove   19.00
   Glenravel v McDermott's   19.00
Division 4 Football Rd 10   Eire Og v Creggan   19.00
   Lamh Dhearg v Gort na Mona   18.30
   St. Malachy's v St. John's   19.00
   Cargin v St. Paul's   19.00
   Glenavy v Portglenone   18.30
Division 5 Football Rd 10   St. Brigid's v O'Donnell's   18.30
   St. Gall's v St. Enda's   19.30
   Aldergrove v Sarsfield's   19.00
   Ballycastle v Ballymena   19.00
   Bye v Dunloy   
Wednesday, 1st July      
Division 3 Football Rd 11   St. Agnes' v Cargin   19.00
   Davitt's v St. Gall's   19.00
   St. Teresa's v Glenravel   19.00
   Ardoyne v McDermotts   19.00
   Aldergrove v Rasharkin   19.00
Division 4 Football Rd 11   Creggan v Lamh Dhearg   19.00
   St. John's v Eire Og   19.00
   Gort na Mona v Glenavy   19.00
   Portglenone v Cargin   19.00
   St. Paul's v St. Malachy's   19.00
Division 5 Football Rd 11   O'Donnell's v St. Gall's   19.00
   Sarsfield's v St. Brigid's   20.00
   Dunloy v Ballycastle   20.00
   Ballymena v Aldergrove   20.00
   St. Enda's v Bye   
Sunday, 5th July      
Division 1 Football Rd 7   Creggan v St. Gall's   14.00
   St. Paul's v Rasharkin   14.00
   Cargin v St. John's   15.30
   Moneyglass v St. Brigid's   15.30
   Portglenone v Glenavy   14.00

Sunday, 5th July   Game   Time
Division 2 Football Rd 7   Aghagallon v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Gort na Mona v Dunloy   14.00
   St. Enda's v Rossa   14.00
   Ballymena v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   Ahoghill v Sarsfield's   14.00
Division 3 Football Rd 12   Glenravel v Cargin   14.00
   Davitt's v St. Agnes'   14.00
   Ardoyne v St. Teresa's   14.00
   St. Gall's v Aldergrove   14.00
   Rasharkin v McDermott's   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 12   Glenavy v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   St. John's v Creggan   14.00
   Cargin v Gort na Mona   14.00
   Eire Og v St. Paul's   14.00
   St. Malachy's v Portglenone   14.00
Division 5 Football Rd 12   Sarsfield's v O'Donnell's   14.00
   Ballycastle v St. Enda's   14.00
   St. Brigid's v Ballymena   14.00
   Aldergrove v Dunloy   14.00
   Bye v St. Gall's   
Division 6 Football Rd 7   Lisburn v Rossa   14.00
   Mitchel's v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Moneyglass v Antrim   14.00
   Bye v Ahoghill   
Saturday, 18th July      
Division 3 Football Rd 13   St. Gall's v McDermott's   14.00
   St. Agnes' v Glenravel   14.00
   Aldergrove v Davitt's   14.00
   Cargin v Ardoyne   14.00
   St. Teresa's v Rasharkin   14.00



Saturday, 18th July   Game   Time
Division 4 Football Rd 13   Eire Og v Portglenone   14.00
   Creggan v Glenavy   14.00
   St. Paul's v St. John's   14.00
   Lamh Dhearg v Cargin   14.00
   Gort na Mona v St. Malachy's   14.00
Division 5 Football Rd 13   St. Brigid's v Dunloy   14.00
   Ballymena v Sarsfield's   14.00
   St. Gall's v Ballycastle   14.00
   St. Enda's v Aldergrove   14.00
   O'Donnell's v Bye   
Sunday, 19th July      
Division 1 Football Rd 8   Creggan v Glenavy   20.00
   St. Paul's v St. John's   20.00
   Cargin v St. Brigid's   20.00
   Moneyglass v Portglenone   20.00
   Rasharkin v St. Gall's   20.00
Division 2 Football Rd 8   Lamh Dhearg v Ahoghill   20.00
   Tir na n'Og v Ballymena   20.00
   Rossa v Aghagallon   20.00
   Dunloy v St. Enda's   20.00
   Sarsfield's v Gort na Mona   20.00
Division 6 Football Rd 8   Tir na n'Og v Lisburn   18.30
   Ahoghill v Moneyglass   18.30
   Mitchel's v Rossa   18.30
   Bye v Antrim   
Sunday, 26th July      
Division 1 Football Rd 9   Creggan v Rasharkin   14.00
   St. Paul's v Cargin   14.00
   Moneyglass v St. John's   14.30
   Portglenone v St. Gall's   14.30
   Glenavy v St. Brigid's   14.00
Division 2 Football Rd 9   Aghagallon v Dunloy   14.00
   Gort na Mona v St. Enda's   14.00
   Ballymena v Rossa   14.00
   Ahoghill v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Sarsfield's v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
Division 3 Football Rd 14   Rasharkin v Cargin   14.00
   Aldergrove v St. Agnes'   14.00
   Aldergrove v St. Agnes'   14.00
   St. Gall's v St. Teresa's   14.00
   Ardoyne v Glenravel   14.00
   Davitt's v McDermott's   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 14   St. Malachy's v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   St. Paul's v Creggan   14.00
   Eire Og v Gort na Mona   14.00
   Cargin v Glenavy   14.00
   Portglenone v St Johns   13.00
Division 5 Football Rd 14   Aldergrove v St. Gall's   14.00
   Ballymena v O'Donnell's   14.00
   St. Brigid's v St. Enda's   14.00
   Sarsfield's v Dunloy   14.00
   Ballycastle v Bye   14.00

Sunday, 26th July   Game   Time
Division 6 Football Rd 9   Moneyglass v Tir na n'Og   13.00
   Antrim v Mitchel's   14.00
   Lisburn v Ahoghill   14.00
   Rossa v Bye   
Wednesday, 5th August      
Division 1 Football Rd 10   St. Brigid's v St. Paul's   
   Creggan v Cargin   20.00
   Glenavy v St. Gall's   20.00
   Portglenone v St. John's   20.00
   Moneyglass v Rasharkin   20.00
Division 2 Football Rd 10   Lamh Dhearg v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Aghagallon v St. Enda's   19.00
   Sarsfield's v Tir na n'Og   19.00
   Ahoghill v Rossa   19.00
   Ballymena v Dunloy   19.00
Wednesday, 12th August      
Division 1 Football Rd 11   St. Paul's v Creggan   20.00
   St. Gall's v St. Brigid's   20.00
   Cargin v Moneyglass   20.00
   Rasharkin v Portglenone   20.00
   St. John's v Glenavy   20.00
Division 2 Football Rd 11   Gort na Mona v Aghagallon   20.00
   Tir na n'Og v Lamh Dhearg   19.00
   St. Enda's v Ballymena   20.00
   Dunloy v Ahoghill   20.00
   Rossa v Sarsfield's   19.00
Division 3 Football Rd 15   Cargin v St. Gall's   18.45
   St. Teresa's v Davitt's   19.00
   St. Agnes' v Ardoyne   19.00
   Glenravel v Rasharkin   19.00
    Aldergrove v McDermotts   19.00

Wednesday, 12th August   Game   Time
Division 4 Football Rd 15   Lamh Dhearg v Eire Og   19.00
   Gort na Mona v St. John's   18.45
   Creggan v Cargin   19.00
   Glenavy v St. Malachy's   19.00
   Portglenone v St. Paul's   19.30
Division 5 Football Rd 15   St. Gall's v St. Brigid's   18.45
   St. Enda's v Sarsfield's   18.45
   O'Donnell's v Ballycastle   20.00
   Dunloy v Ballymena   18.45
   Bye v Aldergrove   
Sunday, 16th August      
Division 6 Football Rd 11   Lisburn v Mitchel's   14.00
   Rossa v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Antrim v Ahoghill   14.00
   Moneyglass v Bye   
Sunday, 23rd August      
Division 6 Football Rd 12   Moneyglass v Lisburn   14.00
   Ahoghill v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Antrim v Rossa   14.00
   Bye v Mitchel's   
Sunday, 30th August      
Division 6 Football Rd 13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Lisburn v Antrim   14.00
   Rossa v Moneyglass   14.00
   Mitchel's v Ahoghill   14.00
   Tir na n'Og v Bye   
Wednesday, 2nd September      
Division 1 Football Rd 12   Moneyglass v Creggan   19.30
   St. Gall's v St. Paul's   19.30
   Portglenone v Cargin   19.30
   St. Brigid's v St. John's   19.30
   Glenavy v Rasharkin   19.30
Division 2 Football Rd 12   Ballymena v Aghagallon   19.00
   Tir na n'Og v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Ahoghill v St. Enda's   19.00
   Lamh Dhearg v Rossa   19.00
   Sarsfield's v Dunloy   19.30
Division 3 Football Rd 16   Davitt's v Cargin   19.30
    St. Agnes'  v  McDermotts   19.00
   Aldergrove v St. Teresa's   19.00
   St. Gall's v Glenravel   19.00
   Rasharkin v Ardoyne   19.15
Division 4 Football Rd 16   St. John's v Lamh Dhearg   19.00
   Portglenone v Creggan   18.15
   St. Paul's v Gort na Mona   19.00
   Eire Og v Glenavy   19.15
   St. Malachy's v Cargin   19.15
Division 5 Football Rd 16   Sarsfield's v St. Gall's   18.30
   Dunloy v O'Donnell's   19.15
    St. Enda's  v Ballymena   19.00
   Aldergrove v Ballycastle   19.15
   St. Brigid's v Bye   
Sunday, 6th September      
Division 1 Football Rd 13   St. Brigid's v Rasharkin   14.00
   St. Paul's v Moneyglass   14.00
   St. John's v St. Gall's   14.00
   Creggan v Portglenone   14.00
   Cargin v Glenavy   14.00
Division 2 Football Rd 13   Lamh Dhearg v Dunloy   14.30
   Gort na Mona v Ballymena   14.00
   Rossa v Tir na n'Og   14.30
   Aghagallon v Ahoghill   14.00
   St. Enda's v Sarsfield's   14.30

Sunday, 13th September      
Division 3 Football Rd 17   Ardoyne v St. Gall's   14.00
   Glenravel v Davitt's   14.00
   St. Agnes' v Rasharkin   14.00
   Cargin v Aldergrove   14.00
   St. Teresa's v McDermott's   14.00
Division 4 Football Rd 17   Cargin v Eire Og   14.00
   Glenavy v St. John's   14.00
   Creggan v St. Malachy's   14.00
   Lamh Dhearg v St. Paul's   13.00
   Gort na Mona v Portglenone   14.00
Division 5 Football Rd 17   Ballycastle v St. Brigid's   14.00
   O'Donnell's v Aldergrove   14.00
   St. Gall's v Ballymena   14.00
   St. Enda's v Dunloy   13.00
   Bye v Sarsfield's   14.00
Division 6 Football Rd 14   Rossa v Lisburn   13.00
   Tir na n'Og v Mitchel's   14.00
   Antrim v Moneyglass   14.00
   Ahoghill v Bye   
Sunday, 4th October      
Division 1 Football Rd 14   Glenavy v Creggan   14.30
   St. John's v St. Paul's   14.30
   St. Brigid's v Cargin   14.30
   Portglenone v Moneyglass   14.30
   St. Gall's v Rasharkin   14.30
Division 2 Football Rd 14   Sarsfield's v Aghagallon   14.30
   Rossa v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Lamh Dhearg v St. Enda's   14.30
   Ahoghill v Ballymena   14.30
   Tir na n'Og v Dunloy   14.30

Sunday, 4th October      
Division 3 Football Rd 18    Cargin v McDermotts   14.30
   St. Teresa's v St. Agnes'   14.30
   Aldergrove v Glenravel   14.30
   Davitt's v Ardoyne   14.30
   St. Gall's v Rasharkin   13.00
Division 4 Football Rd 18   Portglenone v Lamh Dhearg   13.00
   Gort na Mona v Creggan   14.30
   St. Paul's v Glenavy   14.30
   St. John's v Cargin   13.00
Division 5 Football Rd 18   Dunloy v St. Gall's   14.30
   St. Enda's v O'Donnell's   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Ballycastle   13.00
   St. Brigid's v Aldergrove   13.00
   Ballymena v Bye   
Sunday, 18th October      
Division 1 Football Rd 15   Creggan v St. Brigid's   14.30
   Cargin v St. Gall's   14.30
   St. Paul's v Portglenone   14.30
   Moneyglass v Glenavy   14.30
   Rasharkin v St. John's   14.30
Division 2 Football Rd 15   Aghagallon v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   St. Enda's v Tir na n'Og   14.30
   Gort na Mona v Ahoghill   14.30
   Ballymena v Sarsfield's   14.30
   Dunloy v Rossa   14.30
Sunday, 25th October      
Division 1 Football Rd 16   St. Gall's v Creggan   14.30
   Rasharkin v St. Paul's   14.30
   St. John's v Cargin   14.30
   St. Brigid's v Moneyglass   14.30
   Glenavy v Portglenone   14.30
Division 2 Football Rd 16   Tir na n'Og v Aghagallon   14.30
   Dunloy v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Rossa v St. Enda's   14.30
   Lamh Dhearg v Ballymena   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Ahoghill   14.30
Sunday, 31st October      
Division 1 Football Rd 17   Portglenone v St. Brigid's   14.00
   Moneyglass v St. Gall's   14.00
   St. Paul's v Glenavy   14.00
   Creggan v St. John's   14.00
   Cargin v Rasharkin   14.00
Division 2 Football Rd 17   Ahoghill v Lamh Dhearg   14.00
   Ballymena v Tir na n'Og   14.00
   Gort na Mona v Sarsfield's   
   Aghagallon v Rossa   14.00
   St. Enda's v Dunloy   14.00
Sunday, 8th November      
Division 1 Football Rd 18   Rasharkin v Creggan   14.00
   Cargin v St. Paul's   14.00
   St. John's v Moneyglass   14.00
   St. Gall's v Portglenone   14.00
   St. Brigid's v Glenavy   14.00
Division 2 Football Rd 18   Dunloy v Aghagallon   14.00
   St. Enda's v Gort na Mona   14.00
   Rossa v Ballymena   14.00
   Tir na n'Og v Ahoghill   14.00
   Lamh Dhearg v Sarsfield's   14.00


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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 24, 2009, 01:35:24 PM
Good man The Doc!
Title: Moneyglass
Post by: No1 on February 27, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Our boys are heading for a challenge game in Moneyglass this Sunday. 

Anyone got directions to the pitch?  I take it we head onto the M2 from Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 27, 2009, 11:11:23 AM
M2 northbound, keep driving until you come to the new bridge that bypasses toome, cant miss it.
take right towards ballymena and about 1 or 1/2 mile down that road you will see a chapel, cant miss that either.
take a left nearly opposite the chapel and the pitch is on your left hand side down a small lane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on February 28, 2009, 10:10:51 PM
can any of you kind persons give me directions to the O'Donnells pitch in Whiterock please?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on February 28, 2009, 10:14:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2009, 10:12:46 PM
I could. Where do you know in west Belfast?

would know most places HS, though just googled the club, and i see the are just up behind the Rock Bar, of the Whiterock Road.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on February 28, 2009, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2009, 10:16:40 PM
Do you know where the Whiterock Road is? If so, you can't miss O'Donnell's. Up the Whiterock about 100/200 yards on your right. It's on the front of the road. They built a new club, looks a bit weird.

yeah, the last time i was up that way, they only had the foundations started, though that was back in 2002 when i was working in the park centre.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on February 28, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2009, 10:22:00 PM
Hmm, that may have been their changing rooms. They have built a new social club. Only finished in the last 6 months or so.

cool, will have to check that out tomorrow after our friendly!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on February 28, 2009, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2009, 10:43:44 PM
I hear there is a great view of the city from the 'glass wall'.

will check it out and let you know what it is like!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stpauls on March 01, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
HS, that is some setup alright, looks really good and plenty of room. also, some view, as you said!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: No1 on March 01, 2009, 09:33:05 PM
QuoteM2 northbound, keep driving until you come to the new bridge that bypasses toome, cant miss it.
take right towards ballymena and about 1 or 1/2 mile down that road you will see a chapel, cant miss that either.
take a left nearly opposite the chapel and the pitch is on your left hand side down a small lane.

Cheers Hoof, directions were spot on.  You could have warned us about their number 15's left foot, f**ker never missed all day!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 05, 2009, 03:30:15 PM
Pull out from the Andersonstown News.

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Launch.aspx?referral=mypagesuite&refresh=9m1BZ05j2Wk0&PBID=e09c0a44-0914-4594-944c-6e8cfe6e99b2&skip=
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2009, 07:33:15 PM
Not bad - some good info on the clubs for the coming year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 05, 2009, 10:18:22 PM
very good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 05, 2009, 10:22:36 PM
Good publication- have to agree with Sean on the under 21 squad for 2008....underachieved, and the reason for this was not addressed for this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
ok i'm off out, first match of the year keep saying that its my last year but sure either that or shopping?????

so of to St Endas for a div 5 game can't wait. will be sore tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 08, 2009, 04:18:32 PM
Result

Leitrim 2-6
Antrim 1-9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Saffrons were 1-4 to 0-1 up at one stage and then found themselves at 1-7 to 2-6 down near the end.  Looks like a couple of late scores salvaged a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 05:22:18 PM
more points dropped (hurlers today) any one at the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 08, 2009, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
ok i'm off out, first match of the year keep saying that its my last year but sure either that or shopping?????

so of to St Endas for a div 5 game can't wait. will be sore tomorrow

Did u even survive the trip to the coldest place on earth???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 08, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
Anyone a match report of todays game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on March 08, 2009, 11:03:11 PM
Any team that are interested in a Minor Challenge game over the next three weeks please PM me.

Preferably we are looking for a Grade 2/Section B standard side.

We are willing to travel and to host (we have floodlit facilities for midweek games).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cooki2222 on March 10, 2009, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on March 08, 2009, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
ok i'm off out, first match of the year keep saying that its my last year but sure either that or shopping?????

so of to St Endas for a div 5 game can't wait. will be sore tomorrow

Did u even survive the trip to the coldest place on earth???


Snow, Hailstones, Rain, Sun & very strong winds all in 60minutes

Cant beat it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 10, 2009, 03:55:21 PM
Quote from: cooki2222 on March 10, 2009, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on March 08, 2009, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
ok i'm off out, first match of the year keep saying that its my last year but sure either that or shopping?????

so of to St Endas for a div 5 game can't wait. will be sore tomorrow

Did u even survive the trip to the coldest place on earth???


Snow, Hailstones, Rain, Sun & very strong winds all in 60minutes

Cant beat it

So the weather was pretty good then for the opening game of the season, well by Hightown standards anyway lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 10, 2009, 04:19:15 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 08, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
Anyone a match report of todays game?

QuoteCJ's late free earns Antrim a draw - Leitrim 2-6 Antrim 1-9

On a day when the county hurlers and camogs both played out draws in their respective National League games a superbly struck free from almost fifty metres by substitute CJ McGourty earned Antrim footballers a share of the spoils in their away tie with Leitrim in Carrick-on-Shannon. It appeared that Antrim's unbeaten run in Division 4 of the National Football League was coming to an end when the home side led with only minutes remaining, but CJ stepped up to the mark to sned the ball between the uprights, despite kicking into a stiff breeze.
It had all looked good for Liam Bradley's men when they led by 1-4 to 0-2 after a wind assisted opening half, the scores from the Cargin contingent of Justin Crozier (1-1), Ciaran Close (0-2) and Michael McCann (0-1).
When McCann edged Antrim six clear early in the second-half they appeared to be course to pick up two precious league points but they conceded a bad goal when Leitrim substitute James Glancy found the net. All seemed well again when CJ McGourty and Kevin Brady pointed to put them four clear again, but once again the home side got in for a 'soft' goal, this time through left-half forward Emlyn Mulligan.
The same player brought them level and Glancy edged them ahead , but CJ saved the day for the Saffrons with a superbly struck equaliser to keep their promotion race on track.

ANTRIM – J Finucane, C Brady, S McVeigh, K O'Boyle, T Scullion, D O'Hagan, D McCann, M McCann, A Gallagher, J Loughrey, C Close, C Murray, K Brady, N McKeever, J Crozier.
SUBS – T McCann for Close (21), CJ McGourty for McKeever (47), M Poloock for Murray (62), S Burke for McVeigh (63).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FitnessTestingIreland on March 12, 2009, 09:03:28 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2009, 08:06:08 PM
Carlow 1-11 4-14 Antrim


The Saffrons moved top of Allianz NFL Division Four after hammering Carlow at Dr Cullen Park on Sunday.

Mark Dougan was the star for Antrim with a hat-trick, his first goal coming after five minutes.

CJ McGourty added the second before Dougan netted again to leave the visitors 3-7 to 0-8 ahead at the break.

Dougan completed his treble while David Phelan scored Carlow's goal from a penalty and a late John Murphy penalty was saved by Antrim's Sean McGreevy.

BBC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 15, 2009, 08:11:28 PM
great win and the ladies also beat Kilkenny in Nowlan Park. (the ladies would beat their senior team)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 15, 2009, 08:28:02 PM
Clarify - Antrim's or Kilkenny's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2009, 09:32:41 AM
Looks like it'll be a decider against Sligo. Does anyone know if the Sligo game is at home?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 16, 2009, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 16, 2009, 09:32:41 AM
Looks like it'll be a decider against Sligo. Does anyone know if the Sligo game is at home?

hang on a minute we still have to play Waterford, we blew serious leads v Wicklow and Leitrim already this year. I wouldnt take the away game to London for granted.
Sligo is at home.
Agruably we have some nice footballers and should have enough to get out of Div 4, but we are weak as water at the back at times and light up front so i wouldnt be thinking too far ahead at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2009, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 16, 2009, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 16, 2009, 09:32:41 AM
Looks like it'll be a decider against Sligo. Does anyone know if the Sligo game is at home?

hang on a minute we still have to play Waterford, we blew serious leads v Wicklow and Leitrim already this year. I wouldnt take the away game to London for granted.
Sligo is at home.
Agruably we have some nice footballers and should have enough to get out of Div 4, but we are weak as water at the back at times and light up front so i wouldnt be thinking too far ahead at this stage.

It's Antrim...who thinks far ahead??? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on March 16, 2009, 11:39:15 AM
Its between Sligo, Leitrim and Antrim now.

Sligo have Carlow and Waterford at Home and Antrim and Wicklow AWAY.

Leitrim have Clare at home and Waterford and KK away.

Antrim have Sligo and London at Home and Waterford away.

Waterford play all 3 and will hopefully have alot to say yet. please do us a favour ;). Our game the winner is promoted for sure. Making it a potential cracker, disastrous time for me as it will be 12 o clock throw in on a work night over in Dubai, will i stay up for the internet radio :-\. Weve the toughest run in, carlow next we should take them and Antrim after. Should be exciting couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Waterford...

Still all to play for then!

Some nice footballers up front alright - not enough physical presence though. There seem to be a lot of dodgy goals being leaked this year too - we need to nip that in the bud.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 16, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
From county website:

Antrim Extend Unbeaten Run - Carlow 1.11 Antrim 4.1415             March 2009

Antrim footballers kept their promotion prospects on target with a big win over a poor Carlow outfit at Dr Cullen Park today. 

While the result was never in doubt after a blistering opening 15 minutes when Antrim raced into a 9 point lead, this was probably as poor an opposition Antrim will face this season, apart from Kilkenny.

The straight red card for Carlow's centre forward Derek Hayden at the beginning of the second half certainly didn't help their attempts to drag themselves back into this game but for much of this match Antrim were cruising.  Frustratingly for the few travelling supporters, there did not seem to be any great urgency to improve their score difference, something they might well rue at the end of this league campaign.

Conditions were almost perfect in the spring sunshine apart from a blustery breeze and if anything it did favour the Saffrons in the first half. They certainly took advantage of this with early ball delivered into the full forward line that created mayhem in the porous Carlow defence. Kevin Brady was the architect-in-chief setting up Mark Dougan for 2 goals with Conor McGourty adding a third.  Although Brady didn't get himself onto the score-sheet, he was giving his marker Vinny Kavanagh a torrid time creating space for both the full and half forwards to all grab scores. Tomas McCann was particularly influential in the opening quarter nicking 2 points including one from the 45.

Having raced into what seemed to be an unassailable 9 point lead, Antrim failed to turn complete domination of every sector of the field to extend this advantage. Instead Carlow, despite 4 first half wides gradually began to pick off points. Mark Dougan had another goal bound shot blocked inside the small square and Conor McGourty missed from a crazy angle that he does occasionally hit the target from. The Glensmen did manage further points from Kevin McQuillan and Michael McCann to lead by 3.07 to 0.08 at half time.

The second half began much in the same way as the first with Antrim dominating the opening exchanges. However, poor finishing and another 3 wides failed to trouble the score-board and in fact it was Carlow who scored the first point in the second period. Much to Antrim manager Liam Bradley's frustration, Antrim were playing laterally and inevitably gave away far too much possession but again Carlow's shooting was woeful with a further 5 wides in the second half. Once Carlow's most influential player Hayden received his marching orders for questioning the referee's eyesight in a none too decorous manner, the game degenerated into little more than a poor training match.

Mark Dougan did grab another goal and a point but worryingly for Antrim panic was again evident when defending inside their own 45.  Colin Brady did concede a penalty which was converted by Carlow mid-fielder John Murphy, but the game was way beyond their reach at this stage. Amazingly Offaly referee Damian Brazil gave the home side another penalty despite the fact that the player fouled was as close to the large square in Kilkenny's Nowlan Park as to the Antrim square in Dr Cullen Park. However, veteran goal-keeper Sean McGreevy saw that this injustice went unrewarded with a brilliant save. Antrim's McGourty bagged the last point for Antrim to seal comprehensive 4.14 to 1.11 win.

Next up for Antrim is London in Casement Park on Saturday evening and they will undoubtedly have taken cognisance of the Exiles one point win over Waterford this weekend. Leitrim's 2 point win over Wicklow means that promotion essentially is still possible for Sligo, Leitrim and Antrim. Provided the Glensmen make no mistakes next weekend, the game with Sligo in a couple of weeks will probably be a league decider.

However, those defensive frailties may yet prove to be their undoing and it would seem that they do miss the presence of Andy McLean and Sean Kelly to provide confidence in this sector.

Antrim
1.Sean McGreevy 2.Colin Brady 3.Sean McVeigh 4.Kevin O'Boyle 5.Tony Scullion 6.Declan O'Hagan 7.Justin Crozier (0.01) 8.Michael McCann (0.01) 9.Aodhan Gallagher (0.01) 10.James Loughery (0.01) 11.Tomas McCann (0.02 – 1 45) 12.Kevin McQuillan (0.01) 13.Conor McGourty (1.04 – F2) 14.Mark Dougan (3.01) 15.Kevin Brady
Subs: P. Carey for Loughery (inj), D. Edwards (0.01) for M. McCann, M. Pollock (0.01) for McQuillan, A. Douglas for C. Brady, P. Cunningham for K. Brady

Carlow
1.James Clarke 2.Kieran Nolan 3.Shane Redmond 4.Vinny Kavanagh 5.John Hayden 6.Liam Murphy 7.Evan Doyle 8.David Phelan (0.01) 9.John Murphy (1.01) 10.Ray Walker (0.02) 11. Derek Hayden (0.03 – F3) 12.Mark Carpenter (0.01 – F1) 13.Brian Murphy (0.01) 14.Wille Minchin 15.J.J. Smith
Subs: E. McCormick (0.02) for Smith (Yellow Card), A. Curran for S. Redmond, D. Molloy for R. Walker, S. Rea for McCormick (Yellow Card)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2009, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 16, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
From county website:

Antrim Extend Unbeaten Run - Carlow 1.11 Antrim 4.1415            

A 1,413 point win must be some sort of record even in Div 4!!  Apparently CJ got 1-927.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 16, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 16, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
From county website:

Antrim Extend Unbeaten Run - Carlow 1.11 Antrim 4.14          15  March 2009


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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 17, 2009, 07:23:23 PM
Antrim Team For The U21 Championship V Tyrone               17 March 2009

1.Peter Graham  Kickhams
2.Daryl Mc Alernon Aghagallon
3.Dermot Mc Cann  Kickhams
4.Chris Mc Veigh  Aldergrove
5.Mark Mc Aleese Portglenone
6.Sean Hasson Rasharkin
7.Patrick Gallagher Glenavy
8.Sean Burke St.Galls
9.Gerard Mc Cann Cargin
10.Justin Crozier Cargin (Captain)
11.C.J.Mc Gourty St.Galls
12.Ryan Doyle Moneyglass
13.Mark Sweeney St.Brigids
14.Nial Mc Keever Portglenone
15.Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg

Subs 16.Paudie Magee Rossa 17.Kevin Cunningham St.Johns
18.Patrick Fitzpatrick Sarafields 19.Paudie Lowe St.Pauls
20.Thomas Mc Cann Kickhams 21.Paul Mc Cann Cargin
22.Nial Mc Alea Sarsfields 23.Sean Redmond Tir Na Nog
24.Odhran Mc Larnon Kickhams 25.Mark Magowan St.Galls
26.Colm Fleming Rossa 27.Aiden Gribben St.Galls
28.Peter Owens St.Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 17, 2009, 08:38:50 PM
Lets hope none of these boys are out on the lash today or in the Hollylands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 18, 2009, 09:50:43 AM
Under 21 tonight at Casement or away? Read differing things yesterday.

Decent team out. Hope they get stuck in and go for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2009, 10:03:53 AM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2009, 09:50:43 AM
Under 21 tonight at Casement or away? Read differing things yesterday.

Decent team out. Hope they get stuck in and go for it.

Its in Omagh as far as i know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on March 18, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
under 21's are playing in omagh!!
always were!!

should be decent game thinking of heading!!
good team, with plenty of county seniors in there!!


can anyone tell me, are mcdee's not allowed to play home matches this year!!
had heard this as they were to play glenravel at home first game but it was played in glenravel!?!?!
whats the reason!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 18, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
I don't honestly know if it's the reason or not in this case, but it's usually the sanction when a club fails to nominate a referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on March 18, 2009, 11:19:43 AM
where are they normally playing there games at, at the moment anyway?
it is a pretty poor show for the club that they havent nailed down a permanent playing ground be that a counciil pitch or whatever!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2009, 12:48:28 PM
Anyone venture to teh u21 game and have a report?

Bannside you're bound to have went? Any reports?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on March 19, 2009, 01:41:07 PM
went to u21's last night, headed down optimistic, but left thinking same old antrim!!
couldnt have got off to a better start, 1-04 without reply, won every break at midfield, early ball in,
mckeever was causing havoc at full-forward!!
the sending off opened it up more and suited tyrone more!
then antrim stopped doing what was working, started running with ball, running into tackles.
alot of simple basic errors!!
justin crozier was played with mckeever in 2 man ff line!!
wasted in my opinion.
the thing that also turned it for tyrone was their freak goal!!
antrim keeper just watched it sail in, never moved, a ball came into the square & he just froze!!
not a challenge on him, not sure what was going on, it wasnt as if the lights were blinding, it wasnt that high!!
antrim ran out of steam in second and tyrone went up through the gears to pull clear!!
wasnt dirty game, how ref sent four off i dont know!!
best on show were mcveigh from aldergrove at corner back, cj & mckeever was decent in first half!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2009, 02:03:15 PM
Thanks culchie!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2009, 12:34:09 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on March 19, 2009, 01:41:07 PM
went to u21's last night, headed down optimistic, but left thinking same old antrim!!
couldnt have got off to a better start, 1-04 without reply, won every break at midfield, early ball in,
mckeever was causing havoc at full-forward!!
the sending off opened it up more and suited tyrone more!
then antrim stopped doing what was working, started running with ball, running into tackles.
alot of simple basic errors!!
justin crozier was played with mckeever in 2 man ff line!!
wasted in my opinion.
the thing that also turned it for tyrone was their freak goal!!
antrim keeper just watched it sail in, never moved, a ball came into the square & he just froze!!not a challenge on him, not sure what was going on, it wasnt as if the lights were blinding, it wasnt that high!!
antrim ran out of steam in second and tyrone went up through the gears to pull clear!!
wasnt dirty game, how ref sent four off i dont know!!
best on show were mcveigh from aldergrove at corner back, cj & mckeever was decent in first half!!



what the fcuk

bait once again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2009, 01:46:16 PM
did u's see the best 125 players in the Irish News today?

Lads we are a joke

Time to do something about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on March 20, 2009, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2009, 01:46:16 PM
did u's see the best 125 players in the Irish News today?

Lads we are a joke

Time to do something about it

You know what Gold, i think you're right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 20, 2009, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2009, 01:46:16 PM
did u's see the best 125 players in the Irish News today?

Lads we are a joke

Time to do something about it

a great Galls man in that 125 today. Harry Sheehan. great gaa family and still family members playing for the club nearly a hundred years later
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 21, 2009, 08:58:58 AM
Can anyone post the article from the Irish News with the list of players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on March 21, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
Antrim 3.20 London 0.04
Good win tonight especially good for points difference if it comes down to it (ours is 78 30 above nearest challenger, Sligo). Harder game next week.
Only saw the second half, we played reasonably well against a weak side and again some very poor shot selection was evident.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 21, 2009, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 21, 2009, 08:58:58 AM
Can anyone post the article from the Irish News with the list of players?

link to the supplement  http://www.irishnews.com/125/125flip.html (http://www.irishnews.com/125/125flip.html)

Listed players:

ANTRIM
Kevin Armstrong a true gentleman
Sean Gibson
Brian McAteer
Andy McCallin
Jim McCorry

Paddy O'Hara
Harry Sheehan
   

     
CAVAN

Phil Brady
Edwin Carolan
Ray Carolan
Gene Cusack
Peter Donohoe

PJ Duke
Charlie Gallagher
Mick Higgins
Gabriel Kelly
Stephen King

Dermot McCabe
Jim McDonnell
Columba McDyer
Damien O'Reilly
Hughie O'Reilly

John Joe O'Reilly
Tom O'Reilly
Packie Phair
Jim Reilly
Jim Smith

Tony Tighe
     

     
DONEGAL

Seamus Bonnar
Declan Bonner
Manus Boyle
Tony Boyle
Martin Carney

Sean Ferriter
Anthony Molloy
Columba McDyer
Brian McEniff
Martin McHugh

Mickey McLoone
     

     
FERMANAGH
     
Mick Brewster
Tommy Durnien
Peter McGinnity
Barry Owens
PT Treacy


     
TYRONE
     
Peter Canavan
Sean Cavanagh
Jim Devlin
Plunkett Donaghy
Frankie Donnelly

Brian Dooher
Conor Gormley
Iggy Jones
John Lynch
Cormac McAnallen

Kevin McCabe
Ned McGee
Enda McGinley
Brian McGuigan
Frank McGuigan

Eugene McKenna
Damian O'Hagan
Jody O'Neill
Stephen O'Neill
 

     
ARMAGH
     
Jack Bratton
Ronan Clarke
Ger Houlahan
Joe Kernan
Paddy Moriarty

Brian McAlinden
Oisin McConville
Bill McCorry
Jim McCullough
Steven McDonnell

John McEntee
Kieran McGeeney
Paul McGrane
Martin McQuillan
Jimmy Smyth

Jimmy Whan
     

     
DERRY
     
Paddy Bradley
Fergal Doherty Henry Downey
Enda Gormley
Hugh Francis Gribben

Roddy Gribben
Brian McGilligan
Anthony McGurk
Jim McKeever
Kieran McKeever

Dermot McNicholl
Mickey Niblock
Sean O'Connell
Gerry O'Loughlin
Tony Scullion

Anthony Tohill
     

     
DOWN
     
Greg Blaney
Barry Breen
Jarlath Carey
Benny Coulter
Paddy Doherty

DJ Kane
Joe Lennon
Mickey Linden
Breen Morgan
Leo Murphy

Kevin Mussen
Colm McAlarney
Dan McCartan
Gregory McCartan
James McCartan jnr

James McCartan snr
Tommy McGovern
John O'Hare
Tom O'Hare
Sean O'Neill

Paddy O'Rourke
Ambrose Rogers snr
Peter Rooney
   

     
MONAGHAN
     
Vincent Duffy
Christy Fisher
Tommy Freeman
Eugene Hughes
Billy Mason

Gerry McCarville
Hugh McKearney
John Rice 


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 21, 2009, 11:59:15 PM
i heard a lot of the under 21's were dropped for tonights game. what happened there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2009, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 21, 2009, 11:59:15 PM
i heard a lot of the under 21's were dropped for tonights game. what happened there?
The devil drink?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 22, 2009, 12:31:56 AM
your so clued in Minder, how do ya do it??

but sure it was only London. the rest of the counties will put up a better contest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 22, 2009, 11:56:35 AM
From the BBC:

Antrim hammered lowly London to ensure that they will remain top of Division 4 after this weekend's matches.

The Saffrons made late changes with CJ McGourty and Justin Crozier among four players not considered because of apparent disciplinary breaches.

But their absence didn't really matter as Antrim led 0-11 to 0-2 at the break.

Paddy Cunningham and Michael Pollock were among the goalscores in the second half at Casement Park.

Thomas McCann and Cunningham hit the opening scores before Enda Gallagher opened London's account.

Antrim then hit eight unanswered scores, with Mark Dougan and Declan O'Hagan also among the points, but London were getting plenty of chances of their own in the first half as they wracked up nine wides.

Dermot Keating also had a great first-half goal chances for the Exiles but he lost his footing at the crucial moment.

By the interval, Antrim were nine ahead and Cunningham's penalty added to their advantage early in the second period.

The remainder of the game was a procession of scores as the Saffrons ran out 25-point winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 22, 2009, 04:10:54 PM
On Target.

Antrim 3- 19 London 0-4


Antrim senior footballers took one more small but significant step forward tonight, when they met and comprehensively defeated a comparatively weak London team, at Casement Park. It is tempting to suggest that London, tonight, triggered memories, for this writer at least, of some past performances of a fragmented and much weaker Antrim team than we have today. London had all too many scoring opportunities but seemingly could not find the target. It is perhaps enough said to suggest that the London forward line were not confident.

By contrast Antrim half backs, mid fielders half forwards and forwards, almost without exception were frequently demonstrating their new found skills and coordinated team work and in direct consequence were involved in successfully attacking a vulnerable London defence. In all ten Antrim players racked up scores; that again has to be an impressive performance by any standards, weaker opposition notwithstanding.

Bradley's lads are improving measurably and performing well. These are early days, with tougher trials to come – Antrim players are under no illusions.  There is much still to do and horn-blowing or back-slapping are not options. But even the begrudger's should be coming around to wondering, what is going on, or even thinking that there are signs of some real progress taking place within Antrim's recent  efforts. It will probably take more than that for some but promotion was a goal at outset; it is now within sight and concentration on finishing the task is  the immediate imperative. Come out and give them your full support.

Antrim players are increasingly able to demonstrate their structured training, in terms of there being more in evidence of good team-work with a better understanding of the advantages of having good set pieces and drill disciplines, which help keep the ball moving forward quickly. The availability of a strong back-up, by way of additional honed players, keen to get on board at any opportunity, adds a positive dimension to the Antrim side. Colm Fleming took his opportunity to impress tonight,as a late sub, with a very well taken goal. This is another case of  a good job well done – keep going - you are right on target. 

The following players featured in Antrim's win tonight:
Paddy Cunningham 1-06, Michael Pollock 1 - 02 , Colm Fleming 23 1 – 00 , Tomás Mc Cann 0 - 3 , Mark Dougan 0 – 2 , Deaghlan O'Hagan 0- 1 , James Loughrey 0 – 1 ,Dara Edwards 0 -1 ,  Aodhan Gallagher 0 – 1 ,Kevin Brady 0 – 1 and Patrick Carey 0 –
Lawrence Smyth County PRO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on March 22, 2009, 04:17:49 PM
Colm Fleming couldn't make the u21 side, but comes on as a sub for the seniors?  ???

Quote from: Minder on March 22, 2009, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 21, 2009, 11:59:15 PM
i heard a lot of the under 21's were dropped for tonights game. what happened there?
The devil drink?

Going to the Hatfield on Thursday night instead of training and leaving an abusive voice mail to a Mr.Bradley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2009, 04:20:03 PM
Young CJ has more of the brother in him than i thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
You have a  while obsession with that boy minder...

Leitrim beat today which should help us though it just shows you that waterford are not to be underestimated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2009, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
You have a  while obsession with that boy minder...

Leitrim beat today which should help us though it just shows you that waterford are not to be underestimated.

Not at all, just think he is a p***k & if what The Doc said is true then CJ will have a similar inter county career to "Shaws Rd" - i.e. a very brief one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 22, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 22, 2009, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
You have a  while obsession with that boy minder...

Leitrim beat today which should help us though it just shows you that waterford are not to be underestimated.

Not at all, just think he is a p***k & if what The Doc said is true then CJ will have a similar inter county career to "Shaws Rd" - i.e. a very brief one.
his heads up his own ass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 23, 2009, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 22, 2009, 04:17:49 PM
Colm Fleming couldn't make the u21 side, but comes on as a sub for the seniors?  ???

Quote from: Minder on March 22, 2009, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 21, 2009, 11:59:15 PM
i heard a lot of the under 21's were dropped for tonights game. what happened there?
The devil drink?

Going to the Hatfield on Thursday night instead of training and leaving an abusive voice mail to a Mr.Bradley.

If that is the case I am a little bit surprised at Justin Croizer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: passedit on March 23, 2009, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 22, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Underestimated? Fecking underestimated? Them buckos don't follow the fecking rules. Bate by London (who are really crap) last week and then bate Leitrim this week.

How in the name of Jaysus can you tell what they're like? They should be disqualified for being a shower of eejits!

London were indeed really crap on saturday night but have been competitive in all their previous games this year. You should try getting straight off a plane and playing an important game which is what they had to do on saturday. Added to that they were probably shitting themselves as some clown had booked them all into the Park Avenue on the Holywood Rd.  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 23, 2009, 03:55:27 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 22, 2009, 04:17:49 PM
Colm Fleming couldn't make the u21 side, but comes on as a sub for the seniors?  ???

Quote from: Minder on March 22, 2009, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 21, 2009, 11:59:15 PM
i heard a lot of the under 21's were dropped for tonights game. what happened there?
The devil drink?

Going to the Hatfield on Thursday night instead of training and leaving an abusive voice mail to a Mr.Bradley.

It always comes down to that simple thing...respect!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 23, 2009, 04:02:53 PM
Respect for themselves even, that's the saddest thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on March 23, 2009, 04:13:41 PM
Manners are easy carried
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 23, 2009, 05:14:40 PM
So are stories no-one can be sure are the real truth on a message board...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 23, 2009, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 23, 2009, 05:14:40 PM
So are stories no-one can be sure are the real truth on a message board...

you can take it as Gospel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 23, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 23, 2009, 05:14:40 PM
So are stories no-one can be sure are the real truth on a message board...

Even if that message story isn't true they're certainly guilty of something. Would love to see Antrim get the hell out of that Division and at least win a game or two come summer, but the truth is a few of them don't deserve it. You can't say your surprised even to hear shit like this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on March 24, 2009, 09:57:33 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 23, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 23, 2009, 05:14:40 PM
So are stories no-one can be sure are the real truth on a message board...

Even if that message story isn't true they're certainly guilty of something. Would love to see Antrim get the hell out of that Division and at least win a game or two come summer, but the truth is a few of them don't deserve it. You can't say your surprised even to hear shit like this.

Aye its happened before, Bradley wouldn't take it as easy as other managers might i would say. Could a return come summer time be on the cards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2009, 10:02:56 AM
McGourty dropped from the squad...

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 24, 2009, 11:42:00 AM
Does the Gaelic Life have any more vacancies??  Wanted:  Big Fish Small Pond etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 24, 2009, 02:07:00 PM
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=6726.msg244392#msg244392

Same story different year. Within a week or so the older brother was training with the hurlers. Alot of my faith (which isn't overly abundant at the minute) will be lost if he ends up training with them.

I step in no way to abuse them as brothers or as a family and I am not even sure of the specifics of what happened last year but if the younger cub did as alleged last week and has done previously then I hope the door hit him on the way out.
He and his cohorts in the under 21s are adults, albeit mainly students (so lesser adults...) they are not 14 year old boys.
It is not a prank/jokey call to call someone and leave abusive messages it in the middle of the night. It smacks of a complete lack of respect to do this to anyone, let alone to somone who is your manager - even the Cork boys didn't stoop this low. I think.
Its not good craic, its not a bit of a laugh or student banter its just wrong and I am not sure how it could be justified.
Your do such a thing in work to your boss and you're fired, you do such a thing to the girlfriend, you're dumped (or should be).

Would he like abusive messages left by his students when he is a teacher?
Would he like his father to receive abusive messages from any teams he is over?

He is a boy who needs to grow up otherwise the talent that he clearly does possess will go to waste. Same in respect of last week's antics to the other under 21s.

Next thing there will be talk of him signing for Burren/Down.


Heads focussed for the Sligo game now and forget this episode. It might bring the team together and let them realise that the bigger goal is bigger than any one player adn certainly requires resepct. Fair play to Bradley and Conway.
I understand that the trainings have been very good and a no nonsense approach is clear. Over the next months if promotion is secured (fingers crossed) and things start to click on field then what more can we ask for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2009, 02:18:50 PM
To be honest my opinion is that he's not that big a loss. Himself and Paddy Cunningham are much of a muchness and one would be better without the other so maybe it'll help Cunningham.

While he is no doubt very good he is very replaceable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on March 24, 2009, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 24, 2009, 02:18:50 PM
To be honest my opinion is that he's not that big a loss. Himself and Paddy Cunningham are much of a muchness and one would be better without the other so maybe it'll help Cunningham.

While he is no doubt very good he is very replaceable.

Give me 15 hardworkers over 1 shining star any day of the week 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on March 24, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
Could someone inform us what this young man has achieved so that he gets so many banner headlines.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bogball XV on March 24, 2009, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on March 24, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
Could someone inform us what this young man has achieved so that he gets so many banner headlines.
He was on the Antrim minor side that got to an Ulster final 3 years ago TFAL, do you know nothing ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 24, 2009, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on March 24, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
Could someone inform us what this young man has achieved so that he gets so many banner headlines.

He's scored a lock of goals against Kilkenny and Carlow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Dark Knight on March 24, 2009, 05:25:02 PM
Ah Ha MR you hammered me not so long ago about the mighty superstar when i reported the behaviour leading to the Uni Finals, and there we are, a leopard never changes its spots!!!!! I wonder will he loose his scholarship now with the energy drink company, maybe that will allegedly stop him issuing rubber ones around the west!!!! Needs to stay away from the gee gees....... Maybe the DA can spin him out of this one????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on March 24, 2009, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on March 24, 2009, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on March 24, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
Could someone inform us what this young man has achieved so that he gets so many banner headlines.
He was on the Antrim minor side that got to an Ulster final 3 years ago TFAL, do you know nothing ???

Wow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on March 24, 2009, 06:11:15 PM
Why is McGourty dropped and rest of under 21s are not? Antrim football will need him before he will need them. The two McGourtys and Sean Kelly are the best players in Antrim and now none of them in the squad. Antrim need their best talent, pity all difficulties couldnt be sorted in house.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2009, 09:40:28 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on March 24, 2009, 05:25:02 PM
Ah Ha MR you hammered me not so long ago about the mighty superstar when i reported the behaviour leading to the Uni Finals, and there we are, a leopard never changes its spots!!!!! I wonder will he loose his scholarship now with the energy drink company, maybe that will allegedly stop him issuing rubber ones around the west!!!! Needs to stay away from the gee gees....... Maybe the DA can spin him out of this one????????

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 24, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on March 24, 2009, 06:11:15 PM
Why is McGourty dropped and rest of under 21s are not?.

According to reports the other U21s apologised to Bradley...McGourty was already on thin ice following previous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on March 25, 2009, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on March 24, 2009, 06:11:15 PM
Why is McGourty dropped and rest of under 21s are not? Antrim football will need him before he will need them. The two McGourtys and Sean Kelly are the best players in Antrim and now none of them in the squad. Antrim need their best talent, pity all difficulties couldnt be sorted in house.

The best footballers in Antrim, I think you should do your research. I think even the three themselves would say otherwise. But, still would be good to have them but if they aren't playing they arent playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 25, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
QuoteHe's scored a lock of goals against Kilkenny and Carlow

Cracker.  True though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Dark Knight on March 25, 2009, 04:35:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 24, 2009, 09:40:28 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on March 24, 2009, 05:25:02 PM
Ah Ha MR you hammered me not so long ago about the mighty superstar when i reported the behaviour leading to the Uni Finals, and there we are, a leopard never changes its spots!!!!! I wonder will he loose his scholarship now with the energy drink company, maybe that will allegedly stop him issuing rubber ones around the west!!!! Needs to stay away from the gee gees....... Maybe the DA can spin him out of this one????????

What does this mean?

Minder Minder, and you a teacher, what do you think it means? Gee Gees, Rubber ones- bouncing? I wonder what that means ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 25, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
TDK, Minder is not a teacher ::)

as for the "gee gees" most of the posters on this board have a punt. so whats your point?

rubber ones???? only one rubber one here ;)

whats done is done, Cassidy in Donegal had his spat with the county, Even SON had problems in Tyrone and left/kicked out. big deal

if Baker thinks this will bring Antrim forward then great.

i only told you what CJ had done at the uni finals and the game in Letrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 25, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
Definitely a lot of dejavu about all this.
I honestly believe the pair of them have damaged Antrim county football and it's reputation more than they have ever contributed. There was an argument a few years ago after Kevin's row about the hassle being worth it and I wasn't sure which side to lean towards.
There's no more argument. Really hope Antrim can get promoted and that crowd aren't allowed to tarnish the jersey ever again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Dark Knight on March 25, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 25, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
TDK, Minder is not a teacher ::)

as for the "gee gees" most of the posters on this board have a punt. so whats your point?

rubber ones???? only one rubber one here ;)

whats done is done, Cassidy in Donegal had his spat with the county, Even SON had problems in Tyrone and left/kicked out. big deal

if Baker thinks this will bring Antrim forward then great.

i only told you what CJ had done at the uni finals and the game in Letrim.

MR, thou dost protest tooooo  much, "What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: London 2012 on March 25, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
It must be a little frustrating for true antrim gaels to see players of the calibre of jc mcgourty not playing for antrim following on from his older brother and Sean Kelly etc When your trying to make progress and take your team to the next level its a big help if you have your best players available.
From the outside looking in, Kevin McGourty appears to be a complete tosser with a serious attitude problem, he maybe thinks he'll get talked about more if he doesn't play than if he did, because he isn't as good as he would like you to believe. That clip on youtube of CJ prankin Frank Delargy tells you all you need to know about him, fair enough playing a joke but pretending to be disabled with with a speech problem is a scummy arrogant thing to be at and an insult to real people with these problems. Who would ring their manager in the middle of the night and call him a Derry W"£$%R, some humility, manners and class are easily carried.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 25, 2009, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: London 2012 on March 25, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
It must be a little frustrating for true antrim gaels to see players of the calibre of jc mcgourty not playing for antrim following on from his older brother and Sean Kelly etc When your trying to make progress and take your team to the next level its a big help if you have your best players available.
From the outside looking in, Kevin McGourty appears to be a complete t**ser with a serious attitude problem, he maybe thinks he'll get talked about more if he doesn't play than if he did, because he isn't as good as he would like you to believe. That clip on youtube of CJ prankin Frank Delargy tells you all you need to know about him, fair enough playing a joke but pretending to be disabled with with a speech problem is a scummy arrogant thing to be at and an insult to real people with these problems. Who would ring their manager in the middle of the night and call him a Derry W"£$%R, some humility, manners and class are easily carried.

Is this intentional?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on March 26, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2009, 10:55:55 PM
Did Frankie ever get back to thon Aggies player?

Sure he told him to come to the first trial but the hoor never bothered  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on March 26, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on March 26, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2009, 10:55:55 PM
Did Frankie ever get back to thon Aggies player?

Sure he told him to come to the first trial but the hoor never bothered  :D

he's probably read the board this week & thought thats who that was!!!?!?!?

any teams news for match on saturday night?
what about mick mccann, heard he has bad back!!
could do with him back in team for sligo!!
justy crozier should be back in also, with maybe loughrey being named in forwards & playing as a sweeper!!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on March 26, 2009, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on March 26, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on March 26, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2009, 10:55:55 PM
Did Frankie ever get back to thon Aggies player?

Sure he told him to come to the first trial but the hoor never bothered  :D

he's probably read the board this week & thought thats who that was!!!?!?!?

any teams news for match on saturday night?
what about mick mccann, heard he has bad back!!
could do with him back in team for sligo!!
justy crozier should be back in also, with maybe loughrey being named in forwards & playing as a sweeper!!






Im sure he already had a good idea culchie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on March 26, 2009, 05:00:20 PM
What's the deal with Kelly and McClean anyway? They'd be a great asset to our defence who at times have looked shaky.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 27, 2009, 01:40:53 PM
studying i believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2009, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 27, 2009, 01:40:53 PM
studying i believe

Is Kelly not a qualified teacher by now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 27, 2009, 04:05:55 PM
Sean is trying to get on the Antrim hurling panel at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on March 27, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
what is the story with these antrim glory hunters (mc gourty boys, and now Kelly??) who ditch the football to try their hand at making the county hurling side? Is it more glamorous, does it feed their ego's more or what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 27, 2009, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: toiletroller on March 27, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
what is the story with these antrim glory hunters (mc gourty boys, and now Kelly??) who ditch the football to try their hand at making the county hurling side? Is it more glamorous, does it feed their ego's more or what?

As patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel so it seems the hurling team is the last refuge for hacked off St Galls men ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on March 28, 2009, 11:41:35 AM
I doubt very much Sean Kelly is trying to get on the Antrim hurling team. Why would he?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: laceer on March 28, 2009, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: London 2012 on March 25, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
It must be a little frustrating for true antrim gaels to see players of the calibre of jc mcgourty not playing for antrim following on from his older brother and Sean Kelly etc When your trying to make progress and take your team to the next level its a big help if you have your best players available.
From the outside looking in, Kevin McGourty appears to be a complete t**ser with a serious attitude problem, he maybe thinks he'll get talked about more if he doesn't play than if he did, because he isn't as good as he would like you to believe. That clip on youtube of CJ prankin Frank Delargy tells you all you need to know about him, fair enough playing a joke but pretending to be disabled with with a speech problem is a scummy arrogant thing to be at and an insult to real people with these problems. Who would ring their manager in the middle of the night and call him a Derry W"£$%R, some humility, manners and class are easily carried.

anyone got a link for this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 28, 2009, 09:20:23 PM
Great result tonight - finally out of Div 4 thank feck - hopefully win against Waterford to round it out and try to win the Division.  Any reports?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2009, 09:28:02 PM
CJ who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 28, 2009, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2009, 09:28:02 PM
CJ who?
:D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 29, 2009, 12:09:49 AM
good to see after 5 years we have achieved something. 5 points win against recently connaght champions is not to be sniffed at
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 12:17:20 AM
Promotion looking highly likely too milltown. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 29, 2009, 12:26:35 AM
if we can get Sean Kelly to put down his hurl.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 12:40:28 AM
The Mrs had plans for me the night otherwise I would have been at Casement (Just PizzaExpress plans ;) )

I like to see Antrim do well and they don't need Kelly either milltown, as was shown tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 12:48:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2009, 12:42:39 AM
Urgh. You are yueck. Stay away from this thread.
:D
Title: Árd Macha = Armagh
Post by: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:19:07 AM
Never heard of a place called Ard Mhacha - a pure modern day insult to Macha - there is no such bastardised place as Arwagh even to back the pretenders up - next we'll be having a place called Downphatrick/Downfatrick. Downpatrick - Armagh - yes.
Cláirsigh Árd Mhacha - the Harps of Armagh - yes.

A place called Arwagh? No chance.

Well done Aontroim anocht/areir
Title: Re: Árd Macha = Armagh
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 02:28:19 AM
Quote from: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:19:07 AM
Never heard of a place called Ard Mhacha - a pure modern day insult to Macha - there is no such bastardised place as Arwagh even to back the pretenders up - next we'll be having a place called Downphatrick/Downfatrick. Downpatrick - Armagh - yes.
Cláirsigh Árd Mhacha - the Harps of Armagh - yes.

A place called Arwagh? No chance.
Are you trying to say Armagh CB and the entire GAA community have got it wrong?  ::)

What is it you are trying to say?  Do you even know yourself? 

Emhain Mhacha is the name of the fort, Ard Mhacha follows the same grammar.  So your knowledge of Gaelic seems very suspect to me to say the least  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 02:28:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2009, 02:21:50 AM
Correct.
Ardmhacaabu - you spelt your name wrong and you are yeuck.
... so says a clueless person.
Title: Amaidí
Post by: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 02:28:19 AM

Are you trying to say Armagh CB and the entire GAA community have got it wrong?  ::)

What is it you are trying to say?  Do you even know yourself? 

Emhain Mhacha is the name of the fort, Ard Mhacha follows the same grammar.  So your knowledge of Gaelic seems very suspect to me to say the least  :D
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Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 02:28:19 AM
Are you trying to say Armagh CB and the entire GAA community have got it wrong?  ::)

What is it you are trying to say?  Do you even know yourself? 

Emhain Mhacha is the name of the fort, Ard Mhacha follows the same grammar.  So your knowledge of Gaelic seems very suspect to me to say the least  :D
[/quote]

Pure unadulterated amaidí!

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Go up to your attic and look at the match programmes from the fifties.

Arwagh - Aye dead on!

Title: Na Rasai
Post by: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:38:54 AM
Here "ardmhachaabu", there are races on the marra at Downphatrick/Downfatrick racecourse for you.
Title: Re: Amaidí
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 02:40:23 AM
Quote from: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:34:03 AM
Pure unadulterated amaidí!

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Go up to your attic and look at the match programmes from the fifties.

Arwagh - Aye dead on!


In other words, the GAA community and Armagh CB have got it right and you have got it wrong.

Drici, you are wrong about grammar.

Since when did you become a renowned expert on the language anyway?

No need to answer that, I know you aren't an expert by the reply you have given already.  If you were, you could have referred me to other people to back what you are saying.  I will go by Grammar rules, for my spelling, thanks.  :)
Title: Árd Macha = Armagh
Post by: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:44:59 AM
"ardmhachaabu"
Get off your pathetic knees and stand up.

Grammar versus cainnt na ndaoiní?

Hence Armagh and not your Arwagh amaidí - never heard anyone calling Armagh this Arwagh name.
Title: Re: Árd Macha = Armagh
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 29, 2009, 02:47:14 AM
Quote from: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:44:59 AM
Get of your pathetic knees and stand up.

Grammar versus cainnt na ndaoiní?

Hence Armagh and not your Arwagh amaidí - never heard anyone calling Armagh this Arwagh name.
You are absolutely clueless, as I thought  :D

Oh and... your pronunciation is way off, as I would expect from someone who is bluffing their way through the language.  ;D
Title: Árd Macha = Armagh
Post by: drici on March 29, 2009, 02:50:15 AM
Well done Aontroim ar scor ar bith.

(This other poster thinks he is from Arwagh - ah well )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on March 29, 2009, 02:40:10 PM
Great win last night, previous Antrim teams would have bottled it.
I knew Sean Kelly wasn't a hurler :D.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 29, 2009, 05:59:11 PM
Hardstation, I normally enjoy your assessments but WGAF about the Armagh thing - give us some detail on your win.Comhghairdeas BTW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 29, 2009, 09:33:40 PM
That's better.So will CJ eat humble pie and ask for a reprieve?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
Great result - one game to go isn't it?

Still very far from a foregone conclusion but unbeaten so far is promising at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2009, 10:10:01 PM
You could be right

worst case scenario waterford win remaining 2 games and sligo win their one. antrim and sligo would then be level second. We have 40 better of a score difference which you'd imagine would be hard to turn round for sligo in one game.

interesting to see tipp on top of division 3, maybe last year wasn't as bad as we thought...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2009, 10:18:57 PM
Ah, good old gaa.ie.

Happy days then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 29, 2009, 11:29:52 PM
happy days.

Tipp were lucky as fcuk to get up last year after we blew it against them and then the b*stard Deise.
Look at Tipp now--Div 2!

I hope we go down there and tank Waterford.

McGreevy never touched the ball for the 1st 17 minutes last night--we shudda bean outta sight by then.

Aidso was magic, Mick McCann was good, took a few fantastic score in each half(one from outide of right boot from the 45) but  was too hesitant on the ball, overcarrying and carrying into trouble, nearly giving away a goal at the end. Paddy Cunningham took the goal well but doesnt offer anything from play and i hate seeing him hitting frees from 50 metres--fair enough he kicked one--but missed 2--it slows the whole play down and we cant afford to do this unless hes gonna kick 9 out of 10.
McVeigh was impressive at full back and Loughrey was flying as usual. Crozier did well and Scullion took a good early score before decidin to kick aimless balls away over the full forward lines heads as per usual--very frustrating--he never sees the early handpass to put a man into space, holds the ball too long, then kicks it away.
Pollock worked hard but want a scoring threat and Dougan took a few good scores and generally the correct option. Murray came on and won the 1st ball that he had no right to win--did well.
MCKeever took a good early score and worked hard but his timing under a high ball didnt appear great for a big man.
We are mot dangerous when our half backs, midfielders or Tomas is flying through, other than that we struggle from play--its obvious our half back lines(if Scullion plays it simple) and midfield are our best lines and the only worry is that our light forward line may struggle for scores when faced with bigger, thicker defenders come championship v Donegal and Div 3 and further up the leagues.

But nice to see a good win when the heart wasnt too much in the mouth and rare that i actually believed we had the win wrapped up entering into the one minute of injury time!
Ireland winning a Grand Slam and Anrim actually getting out of Div 4 --whats going on!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 29, 2009, 11:49:31 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 29, 2009, 11:29:52 PM
happy days.

Tipp were lucky as fcuk to get up last year after we blew it against them and then the b*stard Deise.
Look at Tipp now--Div 2!

I hope we go down there and tank Waterford.

McGreevy never touched the ball for the 1st 17 minutes last night--we shudda bean outta sight by then.

Aidso was magic, Mick McCann was good, took a few fantastic scores in each half(one from outside of right boot from the 45) but  was too hesitant on the ball, overcarrying and carrying into trouble, nearly giving away a goal at the end. Paddy Cunningham took the goal well but doesnt offer anything from play and i hate seeing him hitting frees from 50 metres--fair enough he kicked one--but missed 2--it slows the whole play down and we cant afford to do this unless hes gonna kick 9 out of 10.
McVeigh was impressive at full back and Loughrey was flying as usual. Crozier did well and Scullion took a good early score before decidin to kick aimless balls away over the full forward lines heads as per usual--very frustrating--he never sees the early handpass to put a man into space, holds the ball too long, then kicks it away.
Pollock worked hard but wasnt a scoring threat and Dougan took a few good scores and generally the correct option. Murray came on and won the 1st ball that he had no right to win--did well.
MCKeever took a good early score and worked hard but his timing under a high ball didnt appear great for a big man.
We are most dangerous when our half backs, midfielders or Tomas is flying through, other than that we struggle from play--its obvious our half back lines(if Scullion plays it simple) and midfield are our best lines and the only worry is that our light forward line may struggle for scores when faced with bigger, thicker defenders come championship v Donegal and Div 3 and further up the leagues.

But nice to see a good win when the heart wasnt too much in the mouth and rare that i actually believed we had the win wrapped up entering into the one minute of injury time!
Ireland winning a Grand Slam and Anrim actually getting out of Div 4 --whats going on!!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 04, 2009, 12:18:04 AM
any predictions for the opening round of the league?

wonder how Glenavy will get on v St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on April 04, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
Dont think glenavey will get a sniff against the galls to be honest....

they beat our club (lamhs) by a few last week in a challenge game,  we were missing 6 (including cunnigham,finucane,murray) and they were missing 3 from what i was told by their management.  glenavey have a few decent youngsters playing from what i seen. one in the corner and one at wing forward.

our seniors switched from tomorrow to wed night against gort na mona @ gort... big game for both teams to start the season. never thought id see the day we'd be in div 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 05, 2009, 08:47:03 PM
Antrim Div 1 Football

St. Pauls    1-5   2-18   St. Brigids   
Cargin    0-12   2-5   Creggan Kickhams      
St. Galls    0-13   1-4   Glenavy   
St. Johns    0-6   4-8   Portglenone      
Rasharkin    0-8   1-14   Moneyglass
      
Antrim Div 2 Football

St. Endas    1-8   0-7   St. Marys   
Tir na Nog    0-7   0-4   Sarsfields   
Rossa    0-11   0-11   Ahoghill
   
Antrim Div 3 Football
   
Cargin    0-0   0-0   Rasharkin   
St. Agnes    1-2   3-17   Aldergrove   
St. Teresas    1-13   2-12   St. Galls   
Glenravel    1-3   2-7   Ardoyne   
Mc Dermotts    0-7   0-12   Davitts   

Antrim Div 4 Football
   
Lamh Dhearg    0-0   0-0   St. Malachys   
Creggan Kickhams 2-7   0-11   St. Pauls   
Gort Na Mona  0-0 0-0   Eire Og
Glenavy 2-7 2-6   Cargin   
Portglenone 1-9   1-6   St. Johns   

Antrim Div 5 Football
   
St. Galls    0-8   0-9   Aldergrove   
O Donnells    2-12   1-4   Ballymena   
St. Endas    0-0   0-0   St. Brigids   
Dunloy    2-9   1-5   Sarsfields
   
Antrim Div 6 Football

Tir na Nog    2-10   1-19   Moneyglass   
Mitchels    0-0   0-0   Antrim      
Ahoghill    0-6   3-11   Lisburn

First full round of fixtures.  In all seriousness things have gone awfully bad for Glenravel - hard to believe where they are now compared to a few short years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2009, 10:20:27 PM
Gig wins for st brigids and moneyglass there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 06, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
Portglenone look good this year and beat St Johns (who i was told had been going well) convincingly.

Glenavy seem to have had no luck only scoring 4 points at St Galls

St Pauls should stick to the boxing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 06, 2009, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from Report from Portglenone game:

"Fortyseven minutes gone Casements 4.7 St Johns 0.0"

Two clubs going in opposite directions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 06, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
Portglenone look good this year and beat St Johns (who i was told had been going well) convincingly.

Glenavy seem to have had no luck only scoring 4 points at St Galls

St Pauls should stick to the boxing

hard for any team to score yesterday. playing on our bottom pitch and the wind was all over the place. Glenavy should take points off teams this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 06, 2009, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 06, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
Portglenone look good this year and beat St Johns (who i was told had been going well) convincingly.

Glenavy seem to have had no luck only scoring 4 points at St Galls

St Pauls should stick to the boxing

hard for any team to score yesterday. playing on our bottom pitch and the wind was all over the place. Glenavy should take points off teams this year

hard for any team but you's outscored Glenavy 13 points to 4 even though you's had the wind to deal with also--thats a rollin they got. Your right about Glenavy though, they will pick up points and will be safe.

I'd say even at this early stage its any 2 from Johns, Pauls, Raharkin or possibly Moneyglass(although they had a good win yesterday) who goes down. IVe seen milk turn quicker than the Johns and Paul's forward lines
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Im curious to know where you think portglenone are going Gold?

They dont have the fire power or players to break into the top two and wouldnt challenge realistically for a coutny title?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 06, 2009, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Im curious to know where you think portglenone are going Gold?

They dont have the fire power or players to break into the top two and wouldnt challenge realistically for a coutny title?

Thats a fair point--they dont have fantastic forwards but under Delargy they appear to be going about things the right way, did well in the Ulster League and destroyed the one time aristocrats of Antrim Football in their own back yard yesterday. If their forwards work well as a unit then they may trouble one of the big 2 in a one off championship game. Portglenone have a very good draw and a realistic chance of getting to a county final. Then its a one off match against one of the big 2 and with  proper training and a consistant gameplan they could maybe, just maybe win their 1st title. I mean i know St Johns are rudderless but to hold them scoreless for 47 minutes is some achievement. Any game like that usually sees a referee giving the losing team frees for nothing--so for Ports to hold them totally scoreless for that period of time suggests that they are tackling like dogs and doing so without lazy fouling.

Lets face it, Gall's are way infront in terms of volume of players with natural ability. If these players have the desired hunger they could dominate for the foreseeable future. Cargin are next and are very consistant in the league but are some way off St Galls and can be beaten by the teams just below them on any given day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on April 06, 2009, 09:33:06 PM
Johnnies horrendous on Sunday, looking like another long season, can't be as bad again, or can they? ??? >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 07, 2009, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 06, 2009, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Im curious to know where you think portglenone are going Gold?

They dont have the fire power or players to break into the top two and wouldnt challenge realistically for a coutny title?

Thats a fair point--they dont have fantastic forwards but under Delargy they appear to be going about things the right way, did well in the Ulster League and destroyed the one time aristocrats of Antrim Football in their own back yard yesterday. If their forwards work well as a unit then they may trouble one of the big 2 in a one off championship game. Portglenone have a very good draw and a realistic chance of getting to a county final. Then its a one off match against one of the big 2 and with  proper training and a consistant gameplan they could maybe, just maybe win their 1st title. I mean i know St Johns are rudderless but to hold them scoreless for 47 minutes is some achievement. Any game like that usually sees a referee giving the losing team frees for nothing--so for Ports to hold them totally scoreless for that period of time suggests that they are tackling like dogs and doing so without lazy fouling.

Lets face it, Gall's are way infront in terms of volume of players with natural ability. If these players have the desired hunger they could dominate for the foreseeable future. Cargin are next and are very consistant in the league but are some way off St Galls and can be beaten by the teams just below them on any given day.

I wouldn't rate st.galls as highly as you have, theyr'e not that far ahead of antrim, in fact, in terms of the amount of top players in theyr'e ranks i would say there isnt much difference. Possibly st.galls having more older established players although looking at antrims county squad (with no knowledge of recent events) you wouldn't say that. Cargin and st.galls are quite close together and portglenone under the guidance of delargy are capable of causing an upset. St.galls obviously have more experience in championship wins etc, but the others are well capable of beating them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 07, 2009, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 07, 2009, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 06, 2009, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Im curious to know where you think portglenone are going Gold?

They dont have the fire power or players to break into the top two and wouldnt challenge realistically for a coutny title?

Thats a fair point--they dont have fantastic forwards but under Delargy they appear to be going about things the right way, did well in the Ulster League and destroyed the one time aristocrats of Antrim Football in their own back yard yesterday. If their forwards work well as a unit then they may trouble one of the big 2 in a one off championship game. Portglenone have a very good draw and a realistic chance of getting to a county final. Then its a one off match against one of the big 2 and with  proper training and a consistant gameplan they could maybe, just maybe win their 1st title. I mean i know St Johns are rudderless but to hold them scoreless for 47 minutes is some achievement. Any game like that usually sees a referee giving the losing team frees for nothing--so for Ports to hold them totally scoreless for that period of time suggests that they are tackling like dogs and doing so without lazy fouling.

Lets face it, Gall's are way infront in terms of volume of players with natural ability. If these players have the desired hunger they could dominate for the foreseeable future. Cargin are next and are very consistant in the league but are some way off St Galls and can be beaten by the teams just below them on any given day.

I wouldn't rate st.galls as highly as you have, theyr'e not that far ahead of antrim, in fact, in terms of the amount of top players in theyr'e ranks i would say there isnt much difference. Possibly st.galls having more older established players although looking at antrims county squad (with no knowledge of recent events) you wouldn't say that. Cargin and st.galls are quite close together and portglenone under the guidance of delargy are capable of causing an upset. St.galls obviously have more experience in championship wins etc, but the others are well capable of beating them.

the thing is we do have knowledge of recent events. McClean, Kelly, Niblock, Terry O'Neill, Karl Stewart and the 3 McGourty's would in my opinion all start for the County if they gave the required committment. Thats 8 players who arnt there now--if they didnt start they would make some difference to the County Panel if they were committed subs coming in to do a could job--but the fact is they are not there despite all being in their, or coming to, their prime. All these boys are strong on the ball and above average footballers--add this to their County midfielder, half back line who will hit you hard and fair, tight marking corner backs and very good goalkeeper and you have a seriously good club side. A side that has contested 3 ulster club finals, one all Ireland final, and has won 2 kilmacud 7's in the last 5 years.

Then we come to Cargin, who are, in my opinion, a long way off St Galls--yes they have a fair few playing for the County but they dont have anywhere near the strength in depth at the back or up front that Galls have. Cargins full back line could be taken to the cleaners on any given day and their forward line isnt the biggest. They caught St Galls on one bad day a few years ago and then struggled to beat LD in the final. They may have improved from then and are very consistant in the league but they will be doing very well to stop a St Galls side with so many players capable of playing County Football choosing to channel their energies and focus into the club team

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer on April 07, 2009, 03:42:47 PM
Folks,

Anyone know where I would get the Antrim team from the Minor League game against Derry on Saturday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on April 07, 2009, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 07, 2009, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 07, 2009, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 06, 2009, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Im curious to know where you think portglenone are going Gold?

They dont have the fire power or players to break into the top two and wouldnt challenge realistically for a coutny title?

Thats a fair point--they dont have fantastic forwards but under Delargy they appear to be going about things the right way, did well in the Ulster League and destroyed the one time aristocrats of Antrim Football in their own back yard yesterday. If their forwards work well as a unit then they may trouble one of the big 2 in a one off championship game. Portglenone have a very good draw and a realistic chance of getting to a county final. Then its a one off match against one of the big 2 and with  proper training and a consistant gameplan they could maybe, just maybe win their 1st title. I mean i know St Johns are rudderless but to hold them scoreless for 47 minutes is some achievement. Any game like that usually sees a referee giving the losing team frees for nothing--so for Ports to hold them totally scoreless for that period of time suggests that they are tackling like dogs and doing so without lazy fouling.

Lets face it, Gall's are way infront in terms of volume of players with natural ability. If these players have the desired hunger they could dominate for the foreseeable future. Cargin are next and are very consistant in the league but are some way off St Galls and can be beaten by the teams just below them on any given day.

I wouldn't rate st.galls as highly as you have, theyr'e not that far ahead of antrim, in fact, in terms of the amount of top players in theyr'e ranks i would say there isnt much difference. Possibly st.galls having more older established players although looking at antrims county squad (with no knowledge of recent events) you wouldn't say that. Cargin and st.galls are quite close together and portglenone under the guidance of delargy are capable of causing an upset. St.galls obviously have more experience in championship wins etc, but the others are well capable of beating them.

the thing is we do have knowledge of recent events. McClean, Kelly, Niblock, Terry O'Neill, Karl Stewart and the 3 McGourty's would in my opinion all start for the County if they gave the required committment. Thats 8 players who arnt there now--if they didnt start they would make some difference to the County Panel if they were committed subs coming in to do a could job--but the fact is they are not there despite all being in their, or coming to, their prime. All these boys are strong on the ball and above average footballers--add this to their County midfielder, half back line who will hit you hard and fair, tight marking corner backs and very good goalkeeper and you have a seriously good club side. A side that has contested 3 ulster club finals, one all Ireland final, and has won 2 kilmacud 7's in the last 5 years.

Then we come to Cargin, who are, in my opinion, a long way off St Galls--yes they have a fair few playing for the County but they dont have anywhere near the strength in depth at the back or up front that Galls have. Cargins full back line could be taken to the cleaners on any given day and their forward line isnt the biggest. They caught St Galls on one bad day a few years ago and then struggled to beat LD in the final. They may have improved from then and are very consistant in the league but they will be doing very well to stop a St Galls side with so many players capable of playing County Football choosing to channel their energies and focus into the club team



The reason they struggled was because they got a man sent off after 10 minutes!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 08, 2009, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 07, 2009, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 07, 2009, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 06, 2009, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Im curious to know where you think portglenone are going Gold?

They dont have the fire power or players to break into the top two and wouldnt challenge realistically for a coutny title?

Thats a fair point--they dont have fantastic forwards but under Delargy they appear to be going about things the right way, did well in the Ulster League and destroyed the one time aristocrats of Antrim Football in their own back yard yesterday. If their forwards work well as a unit then they may trouble one of the big 2 in a one off championship game. Portglenone have a very good draw and a realistic chance of getting to a county final. Then its a one off match against one of the big 2 and with  proper training and a consistant gameplan they could maybe, just maybe win their 1st title. I mean i know St Johns are rudderless but to hold them scoreless for 47 minutes is some achievement. Any game like that usually sees a referee giving the losing team frees for nothing--so for Ports to hold them totally scoreless for that period of time suggests that they are tackling like dogs and doing so without lazy fouling.

Lets face it, Gall's are way infront in terms of volume of players with natural ability. If these players have the desired hunger they could dominate for the foreseeable future. Cargin are next and are very consistant in the league but are some way off St Galls and can be beaten by the teams just below them on any given day.

I wouldn't rate st.galls as highly as you have, theyr'e not that far ahead of antrim, in fact, in terms of the amount of top players in theyr'e ranks i would say there isnt much difference. Possibly st.galls having more older established players although looking at antrims county squad (with no knowledge of recent events) you wouldn't say that. Cargin and st.galls are quite close together and portglenone under the guidance of delargy are capable of causing an upset. St.galls obviously have more experience in championship wins etc, but the others are well capable of beating them.

the thing is we do have knowledge of recent events. McClean,Kelly, Niblock, Terry O'Neill, Karl Stewart and the 3 McGourty's would in my opinion all start for the County if they gave the required committment. Thats 8 players who arnt there now--if they didnt start they would make some difference to the County Panel if they were committed subs coming in to do a could job--but the fact is they are not there despite all being in their, or coming to, their prime. All these boys are strong on the ball and above average footballers--add this to their County midfielder, half back line who will hit you hard and fair, tight marking corner backs and very good goalkeeper and you have a seriously good club side. A side that has contested 3 ulster club finals, one all Ireland final, and has won 2 kilmacud 7's in the last 5 years.

Then we come to Cargin, who are, in my opinion, a long way off St Galls--yes they have a fair few playing for the County but they dont have anywhere near the strength in depth at the back or up front that Galls have. Cargins full back line could be taken to the cleaners on any given day and their forward line isnt the biggest. They caught St Galls on one bad day a few years ago and then struggled to beat LD in the final. They may have improved from then and are very consistant in the league but they will be doing very well to stop a St Galls side with so many players capable of playing County Football choosing to channel their energies and focus into the club team



Niblock - Good player for st.galls, wouldn't put T/M McCanns K Brady J Loughrey etc out of their place.
terry o'neill - same again
karl Stewart - better hurler
3 McGourty's - CJ and Kevin should be on but they dont have this focus you speak of, Ciaran is a better hurler.
All good additions, some more so than others.

To be fair i dont think there would be 8 players from any club starting on any county team worth their salt, and although st.galls are ahead of cargin in terms of quality at senior, its not by that much, not enough that cargin and other antrim clubs arn't capable of beating them. Underage success at st.galls hasn't been as prominent in recent times as is was in years gone by. And they arn't dominating county panels as much as they used to, so maybe its a sign of changing times.
A winning mentality is always a head start, st.galls definitely have this over other sides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 09, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
Anyone know who won the Gorts LD match last night in Division 2? Cheers

Will be an interesting Division 2 this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on April 09, 2009, 04:06:46 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 09, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
Anyone know who won the Gorts LD match last night in Division 2? Cheers

Will be an interesting Division 2 this year.


I dont think this game was played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 09, 2009, 06:36:03 PM
games called off already in the county!!!! what was the reason?

just read game was played (11 each) and it ended with Conor Murray left in an Ambulance with a suspected broken leg. not good for Antrim if true (hope not)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Superstar on April 10, 2009, 08:17:17 AM
Sorry to hijack youre thread lads, but here goes:

Hi there folks,

With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk

To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link

Many thanks, i hope we can look forward to youre support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on April 11, 2009, 12:39:03 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 09, 2009, 06:36:03 PM
games called off already in the county!!!! what was the reason?

just read game was played (11 each) and it ended with Conor Murray left in an Ambulance with a suspected broken leg. not good for Antrim if true (hope not)

Your right game was played.
Murray injured himself landing in the first minute. Fracture and ligament damage. Also heard his brother Kevin was sent off and the match was blow-in up early with fisticuffs from Terry Reilly and Mark Lynch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on April 11, 2009, 08:20:23 AM
I will clear it up what happened.... Score 11 all.. poor match 5 points scored from play.. referee brutal for both teams.. you think he was reffin a touch rugby game,,,, and his poor decisions were getting to both sets of players .  Conor murray fractured bone in his ankle first min landing from a jump. Kevin got 2 yellows.  then the fisty cuffs that you stated doc was not even a punch thrown a manager from ourselves and their chairman were havin heated words after a linesman was threatened by their chairman and a gort na mona player hit the linesman in the face with a ball. THe gme was up anyway so wasnt blown early.

Poor game and div 2 so hardly see where it deserves merit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 12, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
seems bradley has done what prvious mangers have failed to do, promotion looks secured with Sligo beating Waterford today. well done Bradley.

play off final against Sligo then, sets it up well for the Donegal game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 12, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 12, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
seems bradley has done what prvious mangers have failed to do, promotion looks secured with Sligo beating Waterford today. well done Bradley.

play off final against Sligo then, sets it up well for the Donegal game.

SS2 looks like you got this wrong also!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 13, 2009, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 12, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 12, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
seems bradley has done what prvious mangers have failed to do, promotion looks secured with Sligo beating Waterford today. well done Bradley.

play off final against Sligo then, sets it up well for the Donegal game.

SS2 looks like you got this wrong also!

I have got nothing wrong. Promotion from Div. 4 is not an achievement I shall be boasting about. Thusfar Antrim have gained one more league point than they had at the same stage last year (Derry interestingly have one less).

For progress to be seen in Antrim, a win in Ballybofey against a shambolic Donegal team is imperative. There is now only one division between the two teams and it is certainly not unheard of for teams a division below to beat the higher ranking team. I'm thinking here of Fermanagh and Monaghan last year. Against Derry.

Have you anything sensible to add?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 13, 2009, 11:09:44 PM
Sam there have been a dozens of shite managers in the time since we last won the Ulster title. it cant be the managers all the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 14, 2009, 01:21:58 PM
You bemoaned Bakers appointment, and suggested he was not good enough. Well he has been good enough to get u boys promoted...one point here , one point there, bull shit. He has got u promoted. Its all about results , and he has improved your lot in 4 quick months. looking at it from the outside, I would think promotion was more important than the championship this year. Its important to play against better teams. Also the players will be prepared to committ more due to having some success. BTW when was the last time Antrim played out of Div 4.

And the good news, it took a Derry man to show you boys how to do it :P :D

Not  a word of thanks or praise from you...says it all about you

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2009, 01:47:43 PM
To be fair Baker has done a very good job. It has to be remembered he's really working without a FB in the absence of McLean and Convery retired and he has no Sean Kelly. The less said about the other two missing St Galls boys the better though I think he's handled that well.

Max you have some fair points but then you go and let yourself down with the question about how long antrim have played in division 4. In it's current form it's existed for 2 years and Antrim have been there for , yes, 2 years. So Baker did what Jody didn't but what managers went before him were in different league structures so can't be measured against.

Realistically Donegal will be hard to beat. They may not be great at the minute but they were playing division one and have a lot of experience.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 14, 2009, 04:25:59 PM
imtommygun...I asked because I genuinely did not know, or did I know what the previous structuring of the league s were either! I wasn't trying to be smart!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2009, 05:06:13 PM
 ;D apologies, first time for everything!

It was 2a and 2b the previous years as per 1a and 1b there was no difference in standard. 1,2,3 and 4 has a much better structure to it - teams are better levelled whereas before, for example, armagh would have been playing division 4 equivalents in division 2 the year they won the AI.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 15, 2009, 09:01:03 AM
Not sure of my dates as it's lost in the mists of time, but I can remember Antrim being in Div 2!  I think it was about 1907!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on April 15, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
heard last night that league matches next wednesday night might be called off due to division 4 final sat week!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 15, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
If so that's a joke. Antrim promoted already.

We would already be starting the season on the wrong foot by doing this. Absolutely nothing wrong with league games being played Wednesday 22nd, final on the Saturday and league games the following Wednesday.

We need to wise up. From what little I hear of Baker I'd be surprised if he would enforce calling the game off.

The Sligo rematch will be a good opportunity at a competetive friendly but the leagues need to go on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 15, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
Calling off all those league games would be silly, county boys want to be playing for their clubs.

i beileve St Brids think this is their year. good side of the draw and more players signed up this year. after the first league game then they are on their way.

a Galls/Cargin v St Brids final ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 15, 2009, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 14, 2009, 01:21:58 PM
You bemoaned Bakers appointment, and suggested he was not good enough. Well he has been good enough to get u boys promoted...one point here , one point there, bull shit. He has got u promoted. Its all about results , and he has improved your lot in 4 quick months. looking at it from the outside, I would think promotion was more important than the championship this year. Its important to play against better teams. Also the players will be prepared to committ more due to having some success. BTW when was the last time Antrim played out of Div 4.

And the good news, it took a Derry man to show you boys how to do it :P :D

Not  a word of thanks or praise from you...says it all about you

your right Max Baker has done all thats been asked of him  while sorting out some of the discipline problems as well so deserves plenty of praise,but also remember Max there is an Antrim man in there helping to bring success to your county.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 15, 2009, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 15, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
Calling off all those league games would be silly, county boys want to be playing for their clubs.

i beileve St Brids think this is their year. good side of the draw and more players signed up this year. after the first league game then they are on their way.

a Galls/Cargin v St Brids final ;)

Would St.Brigids be regarded as the Chelsea/Man City of Antrim Football? Man City probably more fitting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 15, 2009, 11:01:59 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 15, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
If so that's a joke. Antrim promoted already.

We would already be starting the season on the wrong foot by doing this. Absolutely nothing wrong with league games being played Wednesday 22nd, final on the Saturday and league games the following Wednesday.

We need to wise up. From what little I hear of Baker I'd be surprised if he would enforce calling the game off.

The Sligo rematch will be a good opportunity at a competetive friendly but the leagues need to go on.
Quote from: milltown row on April 15, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
Calling off all those league games would be silly, county boys want to be playing for their clubs.

i beileve St Brids think this is their year. good side of the draw and more players signed up this year. after the first league game then they are on their way.

a Galls/Cargin v St Brids final ;)

This is Antrim football first senior final in how?....and youse boys won't even give them the time to prepare properly for it....you never know they might win and ...you never know it might further help confidence in the county team...and you never know more players might just want to play for Antrim. Lads try looking past the end of your nose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 15, 2009, 11:35:53 PM
i have only got praise for Bradley, hes done great. I have full faith that we will continue on an upward curve under his leadership.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
Andy McLean back in the Antrim panel, big addition to the squad.

looking like a trip to Ballybofey i think, an upset on the cards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on April 17, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 15, 2009, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 15, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
Calling off all those league games would be silly, county boys want to be playing for their clubs.

i beileve St Brids think this is their year. good side of the draw and more players signed up this year. after the first league game then they are on their way.

a Galls/Cargin v St Brids final ;)

Would St.Brigids be regarded as the Chelsea/Man City of Antrim Football? Man City probably more fitting.

The Loughinisland of Antrim football would be more apt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 17, 2009, 12:59:48 PM
Reading the Gaelic life there now.  Rory Gallagher joining his brother Ronan at St Gall's.
There will be some ego's in that dressing room.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:20:26 PM
Ronan's a sound fella, whats his brother like? would he still be a quality footballer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 17, 2009, 01:30:51 PM
Quality footballer, no doubt.
On natural ability, one of Fermanaghs finest.
Still holds the record for highest individual score in an Ulster Championship game

probably should have got a run this year with the county but O'Rourke did not seem him as part of the way his team play football.

What's he like??   
I  have editied my comment because i was being a bit harsh.

He is a decent fella but sometimes loses the run of himself. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 17, 2009, 01:45:46 PM
 He was great on the old Guitar was our Rory :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on April 17, 2009, 03:22:41 PM
Matches next wednesday are off!!
probably just be the games with county players/panelists involved.

wonder why ccc didnt forsee this!!
or maybe they did and have a date set aside for refixes!

rory gallagher signing up for galls, fella rooney from down signing up st brigids, what next?!?!?!
delargy must have missed out on them, he'll be kicking himself!!

heard the other night, mark dougan is for boston to join up with his mate magill for the summer!!
thought he had been playing well for county team, against sligo he was one of best forwards on show!!
not sure if he will even be about for donegal match!!
noticed he isnt starting on saturday!!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 17, 2009, 04:38:27 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 17, 2009, 01:30:51 PM
Quality footballer, no doubt.
On natural ability, one of Fermanaghs finest.
Still holds the record for highest individual score in an Ulster Championship game

probably should have got a run this year with the county but O'Rourke did not seem him as part of the way his team play football.

What's he like??   
I  have editied my comment because i was being a bit harsh.

He is a decent fella but sometimes loses the run of himself. 


Do a bit of reading between the lines and FermGael is spot on.  He has played for Fermanagh and Cavan...will he declare for Antrim?  If so steer clear!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 17, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
From the BBC:

Antrim lodge objection to venue

Antrim have lodged an objection to the decision to stage next weekend's NFL Division Four final in Longford.

Antrim are objecting to the choice of venue on the grounds that they will have to travel twice the distance of their opponents Sligo.

Saffrons chairman John McSparran has criticised the decision of the Central Competitions Control Committee.

He has argued that the Division Three and Four finals should be played at Croke Park or Parnell Park.

Earlier this week Down manager Ross Carr slammed the decision to play his side's Division Three decider against Tipperary as "scandalous".

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2009, 04:55:05 PM
Surely Clones would be better and suit Antrim, Down, Sligo with only Tipp having to travel further.
Parnell makes the most sense with the roads into Dublin and would tempt me down.
As much as I love the county Longford for a game between two already promoted sides won't entice me.

Galls will be very, very hard to stop. Gallagher working up in the city then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 19, 2009, 01:13:27 PM
Antrim undefeated, not bad even though this is our level i'm sure we can push on and put up a serious fight against Donegal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on April 19, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 17, 2009, 03:22:41 PM
Matches next wednesday are off!!
probably just be the games with county players/panelists involved.

wonder why ccc didnt forsee this!!
or maybe they did and have a date set aside for refixes!

rory gallagher signing up for galls, fella rooney from down signing up st brigids, what next?!?!?!
delargy must have missed out on them, he'll be kicking himself!!

heard the other night, mark dougan is for boston to join up with his mate magill for the summer!!
thought he had been playing well for county team, against sligo he was one of best forwards on show!!
not sure if he will even be about for donegal match!!
noticed he isnt starting on saturday!!



Which rooney is this?

have st brigids now got a footballer from every county in ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 19, 2009, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: fred the red on April 19, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 17, 2009, 03:22:41 PM
Matches next wednesday are off!!
probably just be the games with county players/panelists involved.

wonder why ccc didnt forsee this!!
or maybe they did and have a date set aside for refixes!

rory gallagher signing up for galls, fella rooney from down signing up st brigids, what next?!?!?!
delargy must have missed out on them, he'll be kicking himself!!

heard the other night, mark dougan is for boston to join up with his mate magill for the summer!!
thought he had been playing well for county team, against sligo he was one of best forwards on show!!
not sure if he will even be about for donegal match!!
noticed he isnt starting on saturday!!



Which rooney is this?

have st brigids now got a footballer from every county in ulster?

Mark Rooney, used to play for the Bosco, then Cruppen
Title: Heads Up
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 20, 2009, 09:55:52 AM
The Div 4 Final will be live on TG4 next Saturday (25th).  Throw In 4:30pm.  This will save us all flooding to Perase Park, Longford.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 20, 2009, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 19, 2009, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: fred the red on April 19, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 17, 2009, 03:22:41 PM
Matches next wednesday are off!!
probably just be the games with county players/panelists involved.

wonder why ccc didnt forsee this!!
or maybe they did and have a date set aside for refixes!

rory gallagher signing up for galls, fella rooney from down signing up st brigids, what next?!?!?!
delargy must have missed out on them, he'll be kicking himself!!

heard the other night, mark dougan is for boston to join up with his mate magill for the summer!!
thought he had been playing well for county team, against sligo he was one of best forwards on show!!
not sure if he will even be about for donegal match!!
noticed he isnt starting on saturday!!



Which rooney is this?

have st brigids now got a footballer from every county in ulster?

Mark Rooney, used to play for the Bosco, then Cruppen

He would have a bit of pride and loyalty in playing for his hometown club then  :D
Title: Re: Heads Up
Post by: Gold on April 20, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 20, 2009, 09:55:52 AM
The Div 4 Final will be live on TG4 next Saturday (25th).  Throw In 4:30pm.  This will save us all flooding to Perase Park, Longford.

I'll be there anyway.
https://secure.longfordarms.ie/bookings/reservationform  €50

Headin down on friday night and back up home after the game on Saturday.

Anyone else headin or are you's all watchin it on the box?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 20, 2009, 11:55:01 AM
http://www.aaireland.ie/routes/route.asp?utc=miles

its very do -able
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cooki2222 on April 20, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
u21 championship kicks off tonight :)

Monday 20th April 2009
All Games 7.00pm

St Endas v Rossa
St Paul's v Ardoyne
Aghagallon v Creggan
Moneyglass v Sarsfields

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: cooki2222 on April 20, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
u21 championship kicks off tonight :)

Monday 20th April 2009
All Games 7.00pm

St Endas v Rossa
St Paul's v Ardoyne
Aghagallon v Creggan
Moneyglass v Sarsfields


Who gives a flying F***, sure it aint hurling, is it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cooki2222 on April 21, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: cooki2222 on April 20, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
u21 championship kicks off tonight :)

Monday 20th April 2009
All Games 7.00pm

St Endas v Rossa
St Paul's v Ardoyne
Aghagallon v Creggan
Moneyglass v Sarsfields


Who gives a flying F***, sure it aint hurling, is it!

sure this aint the f***ing hurling thread, is it!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
21 April 2009
A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
21 April 2009
A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 07:56:44 AM

Quote from: cooki2222 on April 21, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: cooki2222 on April 20, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
u21 championship kicks off tonight :)

Monday 20th April 2009
All Games 7.00pm

St Endas v Rossa
St Paul’s v Ardoyne
Aghagallon v Creggan
Moneyglass v Sarsfields


Who gives a flying F***, sure it aint hurling, is it!

sure this aint the f***ing hurling thread, is it!!
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
21 April 2009
A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.

Aye SASlinger is good craic, no aul shite out of him :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:37:29 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 07:56:44 AM

Quote from: cooki2222 on April 21, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: cooki2222 on April 20, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
u21 championship kicks off tonight :)

Monday 20th April 2009
All Games 7.00pm

St Ends v Rosa
St Paul's v Ardoyne
Aghagallon v Creggan
Moneyglass v Sarsfields


Who gives a flying F***, sure it aint hurling, is it!

sure this aint the f***ing hurling thread, is it!!
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
21 April 2009
A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.

Aye SASlinger is good craic, no aul shite out of him :D



Many thanks Sandman!!!!!!!!  Appreciate the support.  Ya know, all the boys think I am a County Administrator, (particularly on the Antrim Hurling thread) one of McSparrans Boys.  Totally wrong they are!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 22, 2009, 11:43:52 AM
In my humble opinion I just think you're a tit, but there you go.


Trying my best to get down there on Saturday for the match.
It isn't the best venue, its is arguably a dead rubber and putting the county to expense but I suppose if its treated as a valuable good hard challenge match then Bradley and the team can get some benefit out of it.
And as Gold says its not too painful to get to.

Anyone willing to predict/pick a championship team at this stage:
McGreevy
Brady
McClean
O'Boyle
Scullion/O'Hagan
Crozier/Kelly (anyone know the status on Kelly coming back?)
Crozier/Loughrey
McCann
Gallagher
McCann
Crozier/Loughrey
N McKeever
Close
Edwards
Cunningham
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:37:29 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 07:56:44 AM

Quote from: cooki2222 on April 21, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: cooki2222 on April 20, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
u21 championship kicks off tonight :)

Monday 20th April 2009
All Games 7.00pm

St Ends v Rosa
St Paul's v Ardoyne
Aghagallon v Creggan
Moneyglass v Sarsfields


Who gives a flying F***, sure it aint hurling, is it!

sure this aint the f***ing hurling thread, is it!!
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
21 April 2009
A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.

Aye SASlinger is good craic, no aul shite out of him :D



Many thanks Sandman!!!!!!!!  Appreciate the support.  Ya know, all the boys think I am a County Administrator, (particularly on the Antrim Hurling thread) one of McSparrans Boys.  Totally wrong they are!

No bother, let them think that then and sure you have them fooled..you have her sussed SAS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 23, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
is anyone goin to this match on Saturday?

I cant make it as not gettin paid to Monday.

What time is game? Is it on TG4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2009, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 23, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
is anyone goin to this match on Saturday?

I cant make it as not gettin paid to Monday.

What time is game? Is it on TG4

Its at 4.30pm. Read somewhere it is on live on TG4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2009, 12:28:45 PM
All four games are on TG4 - two on saturday and two on sunday. I think Minder is right and it's half four on saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 24, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
Bus wankers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 25, 2009, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2009, 12:28:45 PM
All four games are on TG4 - two on saturday and two on sunday. I think Minder is right and it's half four on saturday.

Good Christ, that was grim on many levels. Don't know where to start but McKeever putting the ball over the end line while trying to toe tap while under no pressure was for me the lowlight of this game.

Donegal are going to eat us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: London 2012 on April 25, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 25, 2009, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2009, 12:28:45 PM
All four games are on TG4 - two on saturday and two on sunday. I think Minder is right and it's half four on saturday.

Good Christ, that was grim on many levels. Don't know where to start but McKeever putting the ball over the end line while trying to toe tap while under no pressure was for me the lowlight of this game.

Donegal are going to eat us.

Couldn't agree more only seen the 2nd half but i was so disapponted with Antrim. That incident you mentioned with no 12 just shouldn't be seen in an inter county match. Antrim wouldn't get near anyone else in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bigfrank on April 25, 2009, 06:27:19 PM
That was so poor!! Edwards at full forward,forget bout it,mc keever clueless,i could go on but where do u stop!!! Sligo are piss poor too!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 27, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Pretty poor stuff all round on Saturday bar the first 15/20 minutes when Antrim looked on top. During this period they were very wasteful and didn't make the most of their dominance, something that good teams do - they punish.

On the basis of 70% of the game Donegal will indeed eat us but there was enough there (not as much as Lawrence Smyth thinks...) to suggest that if they get the heads down, get some good friendlies on the go, erradicate some (quite a few) silly mistakes they could challenge Donegal.

McKeever's fumble over the endline was abysmal, which he will know himself though he certainly made hismelf available more than many of his fellow forwards and for that he can't be faulted. He was busy and got on the ball a fair bit.
Close was pretty much anonymous bar the goal, Cunnigham hides behind his man amd doesn't really offer himself for the pass making runs as a good corner forward should (and can maybe get away with this in the Antrim league but not up there) and Tomas McCann needs to let his head catch up with his body/feet...and pass the odd time.
Edwards certainly wasn't as dangerous as he was very Sligo but he did knock the ball down for the goal and fed Mick McCann with a good pass which he picked off the ground when had loads of time to score. Thought he was withdrawn a bit early as he might have been a good outlet against the wind as he seems to be able to carry the ball well.
Mick McCann didn't have one of his better days and Andy McClean and Colm Brady were just that bit off their man but McClean will get the match fitness back and I have never seen Brady have two off days in a row (his man Marren took some fine scores).
Loughrey and Scullion looked dangerous on the break and were busy in the tackle (some slap that Scullion took - did he break his nose?).
McGreevey won't play that badly again (at fault for 1-1) I don't think, as he is a pro and a super keeper.

All things considered there is clear room for alot of improvement but there were little signs that there is a wee bit of hope v Donegal.

Hopefully Baker and Conway will get to work on them. 7 weeks is alot of time. I hope its enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milkman mk II on April 27, 2009, 10:08:47 PM
any reports from u21 game shappening around the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 27, 2009, 10:10:44 PM
Results:
Gort Na Mona  2-14 1-7 St. Pauls  Gort Na Mona   
Dunloy  3-7 0-8 Portglenone  Dunloy   
Rossa  1-7 0-15 Creggan Kickhams  Rossa   
Rasharkin  1-12 2-12 St. Johns  Rasharkin   
Lamh Dhearg  0-7 1-10 St. Galls  Lamh Dhearg   
St. Teresas  0-8 1-6 Glenavy  St. Teresas   
Erins Own Cargin  3-13 0-5 Moneyglass  Cargin

Dunloy beat our guys handy enough, but weren't impressive either. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 28, 2009, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 27, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Pretty poor stuff all round on Saturday bar the first 15/20 minutes when Antrim looked on top. During this period they were very wasteful and didn't make the most of their dominance, something that good teams do - they punish.

On the basis of 70% of the game Donegal will indeed eat us but there was enough there (not as much as Lawrence Smyth thinks...) to suggest that if they get the heads down, get some good friendlies on the go, erradicate some (quite a few) silly mistakes they could challenge Donegal.

McKeever's fumble over the endline was abysmal, which he will know himself though he certainly made hismelf available more than many of his fellow forwards and for that he can't be faulted. He was busy and got on the ball a fair bit.Close was pretty much anonymous bar the goal, Cunnigham hides behind his man amd doesn't really offer himself for the pass making runs as a good corner forward should (and can maybe get away with this in the Antrim league but not up there) and Tomas McCann needs to let his head catch up with his body/feet...and pass the odd time.
Edwards certainly wasn't as dangerous as he was very Sligo but he did knock the ball down for the goal and fed Mick McCann with a good pass which he picked off the ground when had loads of time to score. Thought he was withdrawn a bit early as he might have been a good outlet against the wind as he seems to be able to carry the ball well.
Mick McCann didn't have one of his better days and Andy McClean and Colm Brady were just that bit off their man but McClean will get the match fitness back and I have never seen Brady have two off days in a row (his man Marren took some fine scores).
Loughrey and Scullion looked dangerous on the break and were busy in the tackle (some slap that Scullion took - did he break his nose?).
McGreevey won't play that badly again (at fault for 1-1) I don't think, as he is a pro and a super keeper.

All things considered there is clear room for alot of improvement but there were little signs that there is a wee bit of hope v Donegal.

Hopefully Baker and Conway will get to work on them. 7 weeks is alot of time. I hope its enough.

your right about McKeever--despite being poor and headless its funny how many times he got on the ball--he always seemed to be the man on the shoulder available for the ball in the forward line. whether this is a good thing or not is another question.

our forwards are totally toothless.

Edwards had a tough time on Noel Maguire--Maguire is an outstanding full back who marks from the front--the key to beating those sorts of defenders is by running from side to side and to get the ball towards the corners. Maguire was out in front most times to the ball as the ball was just kicked down his throat--but Edwards did well to knock the ball down into Close's path for the goal and passed to McCann who inexplicably picked it off the ground when he could have played Edwards back in for goal. Dougan came on and wasnt given a kick either. Maguire has impressed me bigtime in both games against us this year and would be worth keepin an eye on (to see if Meehan roasts him or not). Also Sligo's No 2 Harrsion was awesome at times esp in the 1st half.

Cunningham was great from frees but doesnt show and when the ball is played in the aire he cant help himself putting his arms on the back of a defender--hes done this countless times in the league and given away a free each time--he needs a ball winner in there to hand him the ball- so he can just kick it without trying to beat a man.

Tomas has great pace and was unfortunate that he was dispossessed by 2 super tackles in a row in the first half around midfield as he would have had acres of space in front of him--in hindsight though he maybe should have kicked the ball in and ran for the return.

Our full back line cant afford to wait until the other teams forwards get the ball and then tackle--Sligo's full back line gave an exhibition in full back line defending.

Ive slated Scullion's kicking before but he was great on saturday and all his kicks were crossfield and all found the target--a far cry from each kick going over the full forward line's heads into the keepers hands.

our Half back line is clearly our strongest line and its worrying that we only scored 3 points from play and of that half back Loughrey scored 2 and Midfielder McCann got 1. Maybe Loughrey would be more useful wing forward with O'Hagan at wing/centre back or Sean Kelly if he comes back

Our lack of psychality would worry me against Donegal and going forward to Div 3 also but all in all i was glad to get out of Div 4 and although sorry we lost and there were bad points on Saturday it was still great that we remained competitive at least to the end--the days of giving up and getting tanked have to be kept in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 29, 2009, 02:38:19 PM
Any word on this?

Was a pretty bad tackle but they seem to be stepping further than the "if its dealt with at the time then it can't be changed approach".


New CCCC faces first case
28 April 2009

Antrim's Sean Burke is expected to be the first player to appear before the GAA's new Central Competitions Control Committee which is chaired by Tyrone's Seamus Woods.

Newly-elected GAA president Christy Cooney last week appointed the new committee that will serve under him for the next three years. One of the committee's first disciplinary duties will be to review video evidence of last Saturday's NFL Division 4 final between Antrim and Sligo in which Burke was yellow-carded for a high challenge on Sligo's Gary Gaughan.

Video evidence appeared to show him leading with the elbow and catching his opponent in the head, which could lead to him being called before the committee. If the Antrim man's yellow card is upgraded to a red, he will have the option of requesting an appearance before the Central Hearings Committee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 29, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnFhXzQ0Qo

Burke one-- i just dont think he can tackle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadQc5Z_9W8&feature=related

Davey on Scullion

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 30, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 29, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnFhXzQ0Qo

Burke one-- i just dont think he can tackle

Disgraceful tackle. Burkey always seemed to get involved in some shite like that at underage. Never had anything in response when it was given back to him tough. Fine footballer and hurler who always seemed as if he needed to prove he was a tough bugger by picking up stupid and needless cards. Should and will get a lengthy ban for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on April 30, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
Davey or any other player sent off in a similar fashion is very unfortunate.  Scullion had just done his best to cave his ribs in and Davey's reaction was instinctive, not pre-meditated like Scullion's "challenge".  Scullion's reaction was also pre-meditiated and OTT, but typical of the reaction of too many "men" in todays game.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: screenmachine on April 30, 2009, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on April 30, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
Davey or any other player sent off in a similar fashion is very unfortunate.  Scullion had just done his best to cave his ribs in and Davey's reaction was instinctive, not pre-meditated like Scullion's "challenge".  Scullion's reaction was also pre-meditiated and OTT, but typical of the reaction of too many "men" in todays game.  

Did he not break his nose in 3 places?  Prob should have just run it off though in fairness...  ::)

Although he did give him a brave cleaver to the ribs there before getting his snout rearranged!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on April 30, 2009, 03:51:06 PM
Quote from: screenmachine on April 30, 2009, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on April 30, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
Davey or any other player sent off in a similar fashion is very unfortunate.  Scullion had just done his best to cave his ribs in and Davey's reaction was instinctive, not pre-meditated like Scullion's "challenge".  Scullion's reaction was also pre-meditiated and OTT, but typical of the reaction of too many "men" in todays game.  

Did he not break his nose in 3 places?  Prob should have just run it off though in fairness...  ::)

Although he did give him a brave cleaver to the ribs there before getting his snout rearranged!

Not sure about that, any reports I've seen only mention a bloody nose.  My main point though is that Davey was reacting instinctively to a brave cleaver as you would put it and it always seem unfair to me that the player reacting in this type of situation is the one who gets punished.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 30, 2009, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: screenmachine on April 30, 2009, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on April 30, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
Davey or any other player sent off in a similar fashion is very unfortunate.  Scullion had just done his best to cave his ribs in and Davey's reaction was instinctive, not pre-meditated like Scullion's "challenge".  Scullion's reaction was also pre-meditiated and OTT, but typical of the reaction of too many "men" in todays game.  

Did he not break his nose in 3 places?  Prob should have just run it off though in fairness...  ::)

Although he did give him a brave cleaver to the ribs there before getting his snout rearranged!

don't forget this is a s'neils man viewing of this event to suddest he was lying down. Fit the bill perfectly :D

As for Davy reacting instinctively.. ...its county football...you take it, he has just let his mates and the entire county down doing that, but at the same time spirit i can understand his reaction also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on April 30, 2009, 03:55:47 PM
To be fair to scullion the irish news reported him to be sayin after the match that if you give it out you have to take, so he didn't have too many complaints.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on April 30, 2009, 04:15:37 PM
No Max, I'd think most of his team mates would sympathise, as would most fair minded spectators. ;)

Fair play to Scullion though if that's what he said after the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.

old news imtommygunn, haven't see that lad in action yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Winnie Peg on April 30, 2009, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.

old news imtommygunn, haven't see that lad in action yet.

Will be the ruination of the present St. gall's team.
Will someone explain to me  why he is being recruited by the BBC and gaelic Life. Surely there are numerous players, ex or present who have been more successful and more loyal to their team than this guy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on May 01, 2009, 08:55:42 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on April 30, 2009, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.

old news imtommygunn, haven't see that lad in action yet.

Will be the ruination of the present St. gall's team.
Will someone explain to me  why he is being recruited by the BBC and gaelic Life. Surely there are numerous players, ex or present who have been more successful and more loyal to their team than this guy.

Christ, I wouldnt think one more ego would make any difference to galls.

Theres no point having a successful footballer on the tv if he isn't articulate, is there? I've always found him pretty good on the commentary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spirit of 94 on May 01, 2009, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on April 30, 2009, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.

old news imtommygunn, haven't see that lad in action yet.

Will be the ruination of the present St. gall's team.
Will someone explain to me  why he is being recruited by the BBC and gaelic Life. Surely there are numerous players, ex or present who have been more successful and more loyal to their team than this guy.

He's in the right place now. Loyalty to team has never been a big issue with the city men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: passedit on May 01, 2009, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 29, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnFhXzQ0Qo

Burke one-- i just dont think he can tackle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadQc5Z_9W8&feature=related

Davey on Scullion



Gotta love the comment on youtube.


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sicken that bleck santa ****, wish big shinny mc quillan had gave him the same on monday night lolz

Anyone enlighten me on the 'bleck santa' reference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on May 01, 2009, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on April 30, 2009, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.

old news imtommygunn, haven't see that lad in action yet.

Will be the ruination of the present St. gall's team.
Will someone explain to me  why he is being recruited by the BBC and gaelic Life. Surely there are numerous players, ex or present who have been more successful and more loyal to their team than this guy.

He's in the right place now. Loyalty to team has never been a big issue with the city men.

the majority of the team is home grown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2009, 01:52:07 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: Spirit of 94 on May 01, 2009, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on April 30, 2009, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
On BBC news it says that Rory Galagher plays for St Galls - is that a mistake and it's meant to be Ronan or is that true? He'd be some signing if he were to play though he may be getting on a bit.

old news imtommygunn, haven't see that lad in action yet.

Will be the ruination of the present St. gall's team.
Will someone explain to me  why he is being recruited by the BBC and gaelic Life. Surely there are numerous players, ex or present who have been more successful and more loyal to their team than this guy.

He's in the right place now. Loyalty to team has never been a big issue with the city men.

the majority of the team is home grown

In the garden or an allotment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 02:57:21 PM
round the fields of Milltown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on May 07, 2009, 01:57:40 PM
I see bradley sticking to his guns on CJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 07, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
Hi there folks,

With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk

To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link


PM me any queries
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 17, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
noticed a round of fixtures for wed night, we've the Johnnies at Milltown.

my reason for posting is that the County footballers train on wed night, will the county players be available for their clubs? you see i asked this question on the county website and was told that the county don't rearrange training.

watch this space
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 18, 2009, 12:15:58 AM
im watching with interest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mrsandman on May 19, 2009, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on May 19, 2009, 12:01:04 PM
Jesus, we took one hell of an under 21 beating last night.  Thats what happens when you drink loads lads while others want to win championships!


Who are your team, and who beat you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 25, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
i believe there was fisty cuffs at the Antrim football camp last week? manager was apparently giving discipline lessons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 25, 2009, 05:18:48 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 25, 2009, 03:15:44 PM
i believe there was fisty cuffs at the Antrim football camp last week? manager was apparently giving discipline

Giving discipline??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on May 27, 2009, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: passedit on May 01, 2009, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 29, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnFhXzQ0Qo

Burke one-- i just dont think he can tackle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadQc5Z_9W8&feature=related

Davey on Scullion



Gotta love the comment on youtube.


Quotesawdust89 (1 day ago) Show Hide

sicken that bleck santa ****, wish big shinny mc quillan had gave him the same on monday night lolz

Anyone enlighten me on the 'bleck santa' reference


It would take a bigger man than Shinny McQuillan. Few fellas don't like scullion through clubs but if you are straight with him he'll be straight with you! Few sad boys about to write something like about I man getting his nose broke. Keeping hiding behind the usernames fellas!! I smell fear!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 29, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
29 May 2009
To assist the County Football manager to prepare for Ulster Championship and to allow clubs maximum use of their County players C C C has decided to bring forward all Division 1 and 2 games plus Glenravel v Aldergrove to Tuesday 2nd.

This has been done in conjunction with Divisional boards.

from county website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2009, 04:30:15 PM
who's the county player in glenravel v aldergrove?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 29, 2009, 10:18:59 PM
Possibly chris mc veigh from aldergrove??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2009, 12:55:34 PM
Great result for creggan in the u21s

Good to see a new up and coming team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 30, 2009, 08:45:15 PM
aye great win, south west have serious talent lately and should soon be bringing this to the senior stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 02, 2009, 10:58:16 PM
The bridgets could get to the final but winning it would be a bit to far for them.  Some good results in div 1 tonight and last sunday across the board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 01:34:44 PM
if they are 8/1 then stick your lot on them at each way. they dont meet St galls or Cargin (who they haven't beaten in the league this year) till the final (should they get there of course)

this thread has went to the dogs don't ya think?

how many heading down to Ballybofey?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 05, 2009, 02:28:28 PM
Random query (not much of a betting man) - when you stick money on a football team each way how far do they have to go in the championship for it to pay out? Just out of interest.


For Ballybofey next weekend and Croke this weekend. Honest assessment:
0 wins disappointing
1 win happy enough
2 wins ecstatic.

Team I would hope for:
1. McGreevy
2. Brady
3. McLean
4. O'Boyle
5. Scullion
6. Crozier
7. Loughrey
8. Gallagher
9. N McKeever
10. T McCann
11. Edwards
12. Brady
13. Cunningham
14. M McCann
15. Close

Think numbers 1-5 are locked in.
Real shame Sean Kelly isn't about. Still a class act, would have firmly bolstered the squad and could have freed Crozier/Loughrey to do some direct running at the Donegal backs.
Loughrey may be half forward in any event.
Would have McKeever in the middle. Fielding vey important and he is improving at this. Can field and lay to onrushing Scullion/Loughrey.
Aidso's engine and fielding itself will need to be at its best.
Mick McCann/Edwards as a target man with Close/Cunnigham off them.

Kelly/Magill/CJ mising and would arguably be additions - no injuries there, just a shame they wouldn't/didn't commit (in CJ's case, wouldn't commit properly).

That said they aren't there and the team have the potential to do it next Sunday. Things need to go for us. Need to hit hard, take the hits and be as clinical as possible.
Will be a test of character for them. There are people that can score in there - just had to realise that one wide should not lead to 2, 3, 4 as Antrim have lost confidence quite easily in the past.
Antrim have lost quite a few of the first round games before they ever step on the field...we need to get rid of that mental frailty, realise they've trained as well as any county squad and go for it.
Fingers crossed.

(PS I am not Lawrence Smyth...!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheDoc on June 09, 2009, 10:55:32 PM
Very little talk about Sunday.  :-\

I heard Kevin Nibblock is back on board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 11, 2009, 09:57:32 AM
From the BBC:

Niall McKeever and Dermott McCann will make their Championship debuts for Antrim against Donegal on Sunday.  McKeever, linked with a move to Aussie Rules, plays at right half-forward while McCann is the right corner-back.   Liam Bradley has made a couple of changes in atack with Sean Burke and Terry O'Neill replacing Dara Edwards and Ciaran Close.

Antrim: S McGreevy; C Brady, A McLean, D McCann; T Scullion, J Crozier, J Loughery; M McCann, A Gallagher, T O'Neill, K Brady, N McKeever; P Cunningham, S Burke, T McCann.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billy the kid on June 11, 2009, 01:02:17 PM
Thought this might interest some of you.



The Ulster Camogie Council are making a massive push ahead of their Ulster Finals.  Can you support them by publisizing their finals in all Clubs, Club and County Websites and all local Media (Radio and Newspapers)

Please Find attached the Final Poster and the Children's (U14) Free Ticket.



ULSTER CAMOGIE CHAMPIONSHIP FINALS 2009

PAIRC ESLER, NEWRY
SATURDAY 4th JULY
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Ulster Camogie: Press Release – By. Niamh Archibald (Ulster Camogie PRO)



Ulster Camogie hosted the 2009 Provincial Championship Finals launch on Friday evening at the finals venue at Pairc Esler Newry.  Mayor of Newry and Mourne District Colman Burns was present to help launch the Ulster Finals.

Mayor Burns said: "Ulster Council should be commended for their dedication to making the Ulster Final a festival of camogie which could be enjoyed by all the family.

"The hard-work that has gone in by all those involved should be commended, this will be the best final Ulster Camogie has witnessed. The teams, players and officials are lucky to be taking part in such a momentous occasion.

Catherine O'Hara Chairperson of Ulster Camogie said: "The GAA has to be congratulated for giving us the opportunity to create what we hope will be the finest Ulster Final. They have worked tirelessly to ensure that we have a pitch and date which we can build around. Danny Murphy and Tom Daly have to be thanked for giving us this unique opportunity, we hope with their continued support and help to make the Ulster Final an annual event which will be placed in every GAA calendar.

"It's now up to us, as an association, in a Province with a unique history to get behind our own sport and be visibly seen supporting the game we are so proud to be part of. It's about respecting  ourselves first.

On behalf of the Council Iwould like to wish all the finalists and officials  the best of luck. Pairc Esler on 4th July is where we should all be.

Two fabulous finals and the buzz that goes hand in hand with finals day is one not to be missed."

Also present at the Launch was Ulster Secretary Danny Murphy . The Provincial GAA Director spoke of the need to support Camogie. Danny Murphy stated that the time has come for Camogie to receive the respect and recognition it deserved saying: "for some time now the Camogie Association has been saying that it should get more respect. I'm a big believer that respect is not given but earned and you only have to look at what Ulster Camogie is trying to achieve with this Final to know that they are worthy of our respect."

The Ulster Finals will take place on the 4th July, with Tyrone facing Monaghan in the Junior Final, whilst neighbours Derry and Antrim will battle it out for the Senior title.

(For all the latest updates log onto www.ulstercamogie.ie )

CLICK BELOW TO VIEW - Ulster Camogie Final Promo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KH5og1zwY

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 11, 2009, 03:45:41 PM
Antrim:
S McGreevy;

C Brady, A McLean, D McCann;
T Scullion, J Crozier, J Loughrey;

M McCann, A Gallagher;

T O'Neill, K Brady, N McKeever;
P Cunningham, S Burke, T McCann.


Though I'll be there with bells on I am mystified as to why Terry O'Neill is starting.
Only on here or on the Antrim football section did I see that him and Niblock were back on the panel.
Even at that Niblock is a considerably classier football than O'Neill, a good ball winner (useful in a line with Brady) and can take a score (both right footed frees/45s and from play).
Perhaps the foraging into his own defence role has been assigned to O'Neill but while a hard worker and not a bad distributor when he has time, his scoring is questionable and he will get out muscled on the ball. 
Would much rather have seen Niblock or Edwards in there for balling winning and scoring ability.

We need a wide range of scorers on Sunday and need options. In championship the opposition is always smarter than league (and Donegal are clearly above the Division 4 level)...they see something working for Antrim and will close the door to that route.
Its been a failing of Antrim...last year when Cunningham and CJ were bottled up we had nowhere to go.

Antrim need to go into this with belief and with game plans.

•   Is Kevin O'Boyle injured?
•   We need strong running from wing half backs, guaranteed running all day but the end product/pass needs to be good. We need Tony's distribution to be spot on...and if it ain't working we need him to make those runs and lay the ball off. He can be very dangerous when he knows his limitations.
•   Strong running and work rate from Aidso. Non stop.
•   A bit of class from Mick McCann, combined with workrate and quick ball in...none of that fancy dummying. Bang, into space for Tomas and then he does damage.
•   O'Neill to forage and win dirty ball that Brady won't go near. Brady himself to pull the strings and also now and again pull the trigger...he rarely takes that responsibility.
•   McKeever needs to help midfield and throw himself about. When he wants to field he can field with the best of them in Ulster...or at least break the ball and stop them getting clean catches.
•   Not sure of what Burke's role is going to be but if its a target man he needs to make a nuisance of himself and Tomas and Cunningham to pick up the breaks.
•   The corner forwards need to make smart runs for 70 mins. Non stop...we have options to come on.

This is a chance and we need to step up and take it...and flipping bust a gut either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
Burke to be played in Midfield and Mick McCann in fullforward. seems the county managers play league games all year with players and tactics and once championship comes they change everything. Donegal by 7/8 points lads. can't see us getting a goal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 13, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Is there any need to post the likely line out when everyone in the country reads this thing!! 

Dermot mc cann is a bit of a shock in corner back as he would play most of his football out round half back or midfield.  However the  Donegal corner forwards are pretty big so this might be the reason he got the nod instead of KOB. 
Terry o neill is a shock as well considering his short length of time with the panel. 
I honestly do not know why burke is on the team, especially to be coming out to play midfield.  He will commit a load of fouls and his ball skills would be limited although he is a good fielder and a total work horse. 
Half forward line is quite weak possibly mark dougan or closey on for burke and play tomas number 12 with big niall edge of the square.
Hoping scullion has his boots on and uses the ball a bit wiser and cunningham is on form with his frees then maby with a bit of luck tomas will find the net and antrim win by 1 but i dont think anyone can look pass a donegal win and quite a big one at that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2009, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on June 13, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Is there any need to post the likely line out when everyone in the country reads this thing!!  

Dermot mc cann is a bit of a shock in corner back as he would play most of his football out round half back or midfield.  However the  Donegal corner forwards are pretty big so this might be the reason he got the nod instead of KOB. 
Terry o neill is a shock as well considering his short length of time with the panel. 
I honestly do not know why burke is on the team, especially to be coming out to play midfield.  He will commit a load of fouls and his ball skills would be limited although he is a good fielder and a total work horse. 
Half forward line is quite weak possibly mark dougan or closey on for burke and play tomas number 12 with big niall edge of the square.
Hoping scullion has his boots on and uses the ball a bit wiser and cunningham is on form with his frees then maby with a bit of luck tomas will find the net and antrim win by 1 but i dont think anyone can look pass a donegal win and quite a big one at that.

it was in the Irish News today but sure ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 14, 2009, 07:12:58 PM
Well done today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on June 14, 2009, 08:36:03 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on June 13, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Is there any need to post the likely line out when everyone in the country reads this thing!! 

Dermot mc cann is a bit of a shock in corner back as he would play most of his football out round half back or midfield.  However the  Donegal corner forwards are pretty big so this might be the reason he got the nod instead of KOB. 
Terry o neill is a shock as well considering his short length of time with the panel. 
I honestly do not know why burke is on the team, especially to be coming out to play midfield.  He will commit a load of fouls and his ball skills would be limited although he is a good fielder and a total work horse. 
Half forward line is quite weak possibly mark dougan or closey on for burke and play tomas number 12 with big niall edge of the square.
Hoping scullion has his boots on and uses the ball a bit wiser and cunningham is on form with his frees then maby with a bit of luck tomas will find the net and antrim win by 1 but i dont think anyone can look pass a donegal win and quite a big one at that.
That bit is spookily accurate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 14, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
Baker for President!
The UK doesnt have the position of President HS  :P  :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 09:23:52 PM
It will be a great two weeks of media outlets telling us neither Cavan or Antrim have a hope in hell and Derry/Tyrone is the Ulster Final.  >:(
Id say their will be a real buzz around Antrim Football for the first time in a while.
I know theres actually a decent amount of optimism around Cavan for the first time in about 5 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gaaman on June 14, 2009, 10:12:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 14, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
Baker for President!
The UK doesnt have the position of President HS  :P  :-*

And where is the current president from??? Down/UK you ignorant pri ck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
Quote from: Gaaman on June 14, 2009, 10:12:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 14, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
Baker for President!
The UK doesnt have the position of President HS  :P  :-*

And where is the current president from??? Down/UK you ignorant pri ck

Thr Grown ups are conversing about a future Ulster Semi Final kid.
Dont you have some GCSE's or A Levels to study for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 14, 2009, 10:54:29 PM
Well done Antrim...looking forward to meeting y'all in Clones.
According to the critics, we had'nt a hope against Fermanagh, and ye did'nt have a hope against Donegal...I guess some humble pie should be consumed?!
Dead on BH Man...there'll be a field day about how the other semi might as well be the final !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aerlik on June 15, 2009, 07:27:17 AM
 ::)

begrudging "congrats" on your shock win yesterday over the holidaymakers...but please remember youse are the home of underachieving county football and hurling teams.  Go west young man!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seth on June 15, 2009, 07:30:15 AM
Just like to say Congratulations to all involved at last a bit of belief, and what makes it even sweeter no "CJ" to hug the limelight, well done lads, made my weekend, cant wait to go to the bookies this morning!!!!! Maybe some of the other lads will now get the media spotlight and totally justified.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2009, 09:48:10 AM
I think Baker deserves a lot of credit for this win.

If you look at last year we had a few shortfalls...
- no ball winners in the FF line - McCann and Burke were fit to win their own ball yesterday
- no-one of any physical size in midfield to compete with a physical presence(Mulvey cleaned us out) - McKeever addressed this as last year Gallagher would have cleaned us
- no-one to clean up any loose ball in front of the FB line - Terry O'Neill helped out in this regard
- our best corner back not in the panel(Brady)

This and switching of Crozier onto Kavanagh, which won us the game IMO, were vast improvements on anything we've had in the last few years in terms of tactics.

While we won't win any all irelands we can be proud to now support a team with a bit of belief behind them and also, for now anyway, a bit of knowhow!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 15, 2009, 10:21:31 AM
well done to antrim and to Liam Bradley and I eat my words about the man, he has proven he does have what it takes to change a group of talented but half assed players and make them into a decent unit.
OK Donegal are the usual shoot themselves in the foot brigade, but Antrim still had to raise their level as having decent talent doesnt always mean you will achieve anything including A win !
Well done and hope they can meet us in the Ulster final now !

this does prove two things
1 I was wrong and underestimated Bradley - Apologies, and humble pies being eaten.
2. I was correct when myself and a few others said that Antrim have some decent talent, which was dismissed on here as being ridiculous.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2009, 10:56:03 AM
I think the talent has always been around but in the last few years the number of Antrim men competing in the Sigerson has increased and that has increased the level of belief in the squad.

Congrats on a great win, would like to see them knuckle down now for some serious work and give Cavan a good rattle. No point leaving it behind at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2009, 11:08:33 AM
I wonder where Bannside is. We all thought he was mad when he said we should be looking at getting to an ulster final...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 15, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2009, 11:08:33 AM
I wonder where Bannside is. We all thought he was mad when he said we should be looking at getting to an ulster final...
yes yez did, and he has worked hard in Antrim underage to know that there is great talent about !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cameltohill on June 15, 2009, 11:34:05 AM
baker bradley for derry 2010!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 15, 2009, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: cameltohill on June 15, 2009, 11:34:05 AM
baker bradley for derry 2010!

hands off the Baker!

After the league, the way he's dealt with discipline, the hunger fight and pride he's instilled in our county and our jersey and for Ballybofey yesterday we wouldnt swap him for the world.

We're behind him 100%

Bring on Clones!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 15, 2009, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 15, 2009, 10:21:31 AM
well done to antrim and to Liam Bradley and I eat my words about the man, he has proven he does have what it takes to change a group of talented but half assed players and make them into a decent unit.
OK Donegal are the usual shoot themselves in the foot brigade, but Antrim still had to raise their level as having decent talent doesnt always mean you will achieve anything including A win !
Well done and hope they can meet us in the Ulster final now !

this does prove two things
1 I was wrong and underestimated Bradley - Apologies, and humble pies being eaten.
2. I was correct when myself and a few others said that Antrim have some decent talent, which was dismissed on here as being ridiculous.



I hope your wife isn't reading about your desire to see Antrim beat Cavan. No nookie for you for a fortnight :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 16, 2009, 12:59:39 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 11, 2009, 03:45:41 PM
Antrim:
S McGreevy;

C Brady, A McLean, D McCann;
T Scullion, J Crozier, J Loughrey;

M McCann, A Gallagher;

T O'Neill, K Brady, N McKeever;
P Cunningham, S Burke, T McCann.


Though I'll be there with bells on I am mystified as to why Terry O'Neill is starting.
Only on here or on the Antrim football section did I see that him and Niblock were back on the panel.
Even at that Niblock is a considerably classier football than O'Neill, a good ball winner (useful in a line with Brady) and can take a score (both right footed frees/45s and from play).
Perhaps the foraging into his own defence role has been assigned to O'Neill but while a hard worker and not a bad distributor when he has time, his scoring is questionable and he will get out muscled on the ball. 
Would much rather have seen Niblock or Edwards in there for balling winning and scoring ability.

We need a wide range of scorers on Sunday and need options. In championship the opposition is always smarter than league (and Donegal are clearly above the Division 4 level)...they see something working for Antrim and will close the door to that route.
Its been a failing of Antrim...last year when Cunningham and CJ were bottled up we had nowhere to go.

Antrim need to go into this with belief and with game plans.

•   Is Kevin O'Boyle injured?
•   We need strong running from wing half backs, guaranteed running all day but the end product/pass needs to be good. We need Tony's distribution to be spot on...and if it ain't working we need him to make those runs and lay the ball off. He can be very dangerous when he knows his limitations.
•   Strong running and work rate from Aidso. Non stop.
•   A bit of class from Mick McCann, combined with workrate and quick ball in...none of that fancy dummying. Bang, into space for Tomas and then he does damage.
•   O'Neill to forage and win dirty ball that Brady won't go near. Brady himself to pull the strings and also now and again pull the trigger...he rarely takes that responsibility.
•   McKeever needs to help midfield and throw himself about. When he wants to field he can field with the best of them in Ulster...or at least break the ball and stop them getting clean catches.
•   Not sure of what Burke's role is going to be but if its a target man he needs to make a nuisance of himself and Tomas and Cunningham to pick up the breaks.
•   The corner forwards need to make smart runs for 70 mins. Non stop...we have options to come on.

This is a chance and we need to step up and take it...and flipping bust a gut either way.



A small slice of humble pie eaten since Sunday re O'Neill (and a couple of pints consumed...).
O'Neill did very well in that extra defender role and thankfully Donegal played into our hands in this regard.
Apart from a couple of wayward passes he did very well, which weren't largley his fault as he had no other option available...at times for the half backs and midfield it must have been soul destroying to see so much space up there with not much to hit.

Kind of been feeling ever since the euphoria died down slightly that Donegal lost it rather than we won it ... but then the euphoria kicks in again, so feck it. A fair few of Donegal's wides were kicked under pressure (though not by any means all of them)...and we deserve a bit of the rub of the green. They've worked as hard as anyone in the country and so have made a bit of luck for themselves.
Gallagher spoke well after the game exuding some of the confidence that having won so much in the past with St Galls must give and having just won for Antrim. A bit of belief in themselves and if they want to use the begrudgers within the county and outside of it as motivation then so be it.
Amazing what a win can do for a county and more so and more importantly for a panel.

Thought all played a part.
Fair play to Peter Graham ...after the first kick wasn't great he certainly got the head down and got some distance. Worth considering varying them a bit as though Gallagher and McKeever are great target men it was predictable enough.
Full backs were solid when they got to grips with their men and had the confidence to know O'Neill was sweeping. Half back line was very good with Justy and Scullion doing well. Loughrey was immense - bottling up Michael Hegarty, not sure how many times I have seen him pull the strings for Donegal in the past. Unfortunately Loughrey's dangerous running forward and support play were curtailed due to his role but what can you do. It was referred to on the Antrim Donegal thread who from Antrim would start for Derry...Loughrey would get in before any of the others in my opinion.

Gallagher and McKeever did well - though round the middle I counted 3/4 times (may have been more) where there were clean catches/breaks which we won and then lost the ball almost immediately in the tackle. Will need to work on that. Admiittedly first thought on winning is to start an attack quickly but when the ball is instantly lost it arguably loses the whole point of fielding/winning the ball.
Similarly Antrim need to be stronger in those tackle areas when opposition win ball.

Not sure what to do up front for the next one. Cunningham almost missed as many frees as he scored and as he was out foraging a bit more than he normally would be he was kind of lost in this role - not a big fan of the dirty ball. Not sure whether his frees could be sacrificed. Close equally as accurate with the left boot? Niblock rarely misses.
Mick McCann did well up there (if only we had two of him) - he might be supported by Niblock/Edwards the next day or a combination of both. While Burke showed out in front a couple of times I think its time to have another scorer in there.

Hope the team had a well deserved couple Sunday night (just a couple) and back down to business with a serious chance v Cavan. Would have been able to have a good look at them in their Fermanagh game and the dangers were clear to see from last year with Johnston still there and another big man in the role that McCabe filled last year.
Will be interesting to see how they approach Johnston...but smarter men than me involved so I'll leave it to them.

How fecking good is it to win?
Wish I could bottle that feeling in the stand at about 60 mins when 4 points up and the "Antrim, Antrim" cheers going round.


On another note Dr John was down just across the way from me in the stand.
He may have his detractors and all but the man was as excited and involved as any man here right the way through and whether it was the right or best call at the time to plump for Bradley it seems to have worked on this occasion.

There are personalities on here whose identities would appear to be known by others and evidentially known (or not...) by the Admin on the Antrim website. Maybe this has been played out on other parts of the board or I have missed something.
But for f*ck sake Antrim just won a first round football match v Donegal and, though not getting carried away, we have a realistic chance of progressing to an Ulster final.
All hands on deck and forget petty rivalaries for at least two weeks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 16, 2009, 01:04:28 PM
PS just throwing it out there but was chatting with a fella yesterday - would there be any merit in having Sean Kelly back in there...at least in the panel to aid competition in training. He is a class act.

I am not drawing direct comparisons between us and Tyrone as I would get ridiculed for getting carried away after one win but if its good enough for the greatest manager of our times (Harte and Stephen O'Neill last year) then why not for us.

Would draw the line right in front of CJ though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 16, 2009, 01:50:10 PM
Na I think the group dynamic would be damaged by adding anyone at this stage even Kelly who was a good servant. Just wondering what are his reasons for not being there was it just a personality clash?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 16, 2009, 01:55:37 PM
Backer has his squad, two extra additions in Terry and Niblock should be enough. Antrim to win in Clones and set up a cracker in the final against whoever.

stop ball going into Johnstone and we will win. by playing a man in front of the space he plays should cut out a lot of ball.
no reason why we cant win the majority of kick outs. and if we improve our shooting then we will get an extra 5/6 scores

might be another 1 point win.

no clash NAG1 just done his bit i'm sure, and has other things to concentrate on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 16, 2009, 02:01:16 PM
would love to see Kelly back in the squad as he has been a great servant and player for us,dont think anyone would begrudge him being called back into the panel,as for cj he is best staying were he is for now but good players are hard to find so hope he learns his lesson and some day plays for the county again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 16, 2009, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 16, 2009, 01:55:37 PM
Backer has his squad, two extra additions in Terry and Niblock should be enough. Antrim to win in Clones and set up a cracker in the final against whoever.

stop ball going into Johnstone and we will win. by playing a man in front of the space he plays should cut out a lot of ball.
no reason why we cant win the majority of kick outs. and if we improve our shooting then we will get an extra 5/6 scores

might be another 1 point win.

no clash NAG1 just done his bit i'm sure, and has other things to concentrate on

Fermanagh couldnt do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 16, 2009, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 16, 2009, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 16, 2009, 01:55:37 PM
Backer has his squad, two extra additions in Terry and Niblock should be enough. Antrim to win in Clones and set up a cracker in the final against whoever.

stop ball going into Johnstone and we will win. by playing a man in front of the space he plays should cut out a lot of ball.
no reason why we cant win the majority of kick outs. and if we improve our shooting then we will get an extra 5/6 scores

might be another 1 point win.

no clash NAG1 just done his bit i'm sure, and has other things to concentrate on

Fermanagh couldnt do it

Indeed, Fermanagh had 3/4 men around him at times and still couldn't stop him. I think Pierson could get a run too and prosper if antrim double up on johnstone. A few yrs ago pierson would have been considered a better\footballer than seanie.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2009, 09:48:56 AM
What has happened to Pierson Myles? He scored about ten points on his ulster debut and hasn't done much of note since.

If we get too hung up on Johnston we could potentially be punished. The space needs marked though. Also we should be able to capitalise with frees which was something Fermanagh weren't able to do that day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 17, 2009, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2009, 09:48:56 AM
What has happened to Pierson Myles? He scored about ten points on his ulster debut and hasn't done much of note since.

If we get too hung up on Johnston we could potentially be punished. The space needs marked though. Also we should be able to capitalise with frees which was something Fermanagh weren't able to do that day.

Its hard to know. He hasn't had an injury free run in a couple of years which means he is never 100% come championship time. Then he is not the most "dedicated" footballer either. As a club man of Gowna told me once he goes on the beer and acts the bollix, then he goes mad trying to get fit in a couple of weeks and ends of injuring himself and then he has a few pints to pass the time and cycle starts again. But when he is fit and in the form he is a serious footballer. He would definetely give any team thinking of putting 2 men on johnstone another headache.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 17, 2009, 10:00:36 PM
Does anyone know when the next round of league games will be, div1 fixtured for wed 24th but this will surely be put back?

Tomas was a good price for 1st goal scorer if anyone was lucky enough to back it. 12/1 with ladbrokes in ballybofey!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2009, 09:13:09 AM
Heard someone say it might be up to the clubs as to whether to play the 24th without the county players?

Would be good if all agreed to do so...set a precedent. The ordinary club footballer deserves a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 18, 2009, 02:13:38 PM
Hope these fixtures go ahead although st galls are set to play cargin with both teams missing about 5 players each.  The other 4 games could go ahead no problem.

St. Brigids    Creggan Kickhams    St. Brigids   24/06/2009   19:30   McGrath Davy       
St. Galls    Cargin    St. Galls   24/06/2009   19:30   Mullan Patrick       
Portglenone    St. Pauls    Portglenone   24/06/2009   19:30   O'Donnell Jarlath       
Glenavy    Moneyglass    Glenavy   24/06/2009   19:30   Owen Quinn      
St. Johns    Rasharkin    Corrigan Park   24/06/2009   19:30   Quinn Paddy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrisLion on June 23, 2009, 11:35:23 AM
Niall McKeever has signed a 2 year AFL Rookie contract with the Brisbane Lions.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 23, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: BrisLion on June 23, 2009, 11:35:23 AM
Niall McKeever has signed a 2 year AFL Rookie contract with the Brisbane Lions.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html)

Will he still be allowed to lineout for Antrim in the final in September?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrisLion on June 23, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on June 23, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: BrisLion on June 23, 2009, 11:35:23 AM
Niall McKeever has signed a 2 year AFL Rookie contract with the Brisbane Lions.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html)

Will he still be allowed to lineout for Antrim in the final in September?

Won't start training with Brisbane until late October. He is a free man till then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LandErIn on June 26, 2009, 09:46:17 AM
Will CJ McGourty have learned anything from getting dropped from the panel, will be back on board next year and prepared to do what he is told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 27, 2009, 11:59:31 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 27, 2009, 09:02:04 AM
Funny thats what the wife said last night too - its all about the inches!!

Or lack of them!!

Cant wait to get down now, always a great buzz about clones on match day.  Antrim by 1.11 to 12              i hope
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 12:02:16 PM
there will be a serious amount of people hammered BEFORE the match. 7.00pm on a sat night!!!!!

a lot of buses are heading down about 2 or 3pm Curley's is going to make a fortune today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on June 27, 2009, 12:08:43 PM
Hope you win tonight. Would be some buzz and lift for Gaelic football in Antrim and hopefully used to really pomote the game with the youngsters. I felt in 1989 in the hurling Antrim really missed a trick on that when they got to All Ireland hurling final.
Look forward to some day's craic at Ulster final with us Tyrone boys and gals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 06:51:46 PM
COME ON ANTRIM!!!!!!

WE CAN DRINK THESE CAVAN BOYS OUTTA THE PARK :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 27, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 12:02:16 PM
there will be a serious amount of people hammered BEFORE the match. 7.00pm on a sat night!!!!!

a lot of buses are heading down about 2 or 3pm Curley's is going to make a fortune today
Seen a good few McCooey buses heading out the Monaghan Road earlier today. Should be a sea of saffron and white in Clones which is a rare site!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on June 27, 2009, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 27, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 12:02:16 PM
there will be a serious amount of people hammered BEFORE the match. 7.00pm on a sat night!!!!!

a lot of buses are heading down about 2 or 3pm Curley's is going to make a fortune today
Seen a good few McCooey buses heading out the Monaghan Road earlier today. Should be a sea of saffron and white in Clones which is a rare site!

havnt heard that word in a long time. Wonder where HS is, he was last on about half 4 so either at mass or a pub
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JMohan on June 27, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
Fair play te yez - great win!
Best of luck in the final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
McCooey, work with North Antrim men, that and Chip eaters and Frankies.

fooking culchies sheep shagging inbred i could go on ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 27, 2009, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
McCooey, work with North Antrim men, that and Chip eaters and Frankies.

fooking culchies sheep shagging inbred i could go on ;)
Youse can't enough of our caravans in N. Antrim so it can't be that bad! Coming down taking your city ways with you. Dyed hair, glue sniffing, "hippy" music like The Smiths etc! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on June 28, 2009, 03:17:09 AM
Great stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2009, 04:32:51 AM
Lads,
Drunk/Hungover4 as i am,just wanted to come on and offer my congratulations,
Had some great banter with you lads in the weeks before and have always read this thread,as ive had an interest in Antrim football since seeing their talented yet underachieving team in 96 against ourselves,Eddie Quinn and Co.
Even though i think Cavan had slightly more fans,in numbers,Your support were magnificant today,great banter and chants before and during the game.
As for the game,While many on the board are offering belated congratulations in shock,really to all of us who knew what Antrim were and have always been capable off,It was no shock.
Antrim were Fitter,Bigger,more Athletic and are and were simply better footballers than their Cavan counterparts,And our traditional supporters will be sick to hear that last one,but its true.
There was at least 10 points in difference between the teams today.
Wish you lads the best of luck against Tyrone,Hopefully i get a ticket and il be down jumping on the Antrim bandwagon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2009, 10:47:16 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2009, 04:32:51 AM
Lads,
Drunk/Hungover4 as i am,just wanted to come on and offer my congratulations,
Had some great banter with you lads in the weeks before and have always read this thread,as ive had an interest in Antrim football since seeing their talented yet underachieving team in 96 against ourselves,Eddie Quinn and Co.
Even though i think Cavan had slightly more fans,in numbers,Your support were magnificant today,great banter and chants before and during the game.
As for the game,While many on the board are offering belated congratulations in shock,really to all of us who knew what Antrim were and have always been capable off,It was no shock.
Antrim were Fitter,Bigger,more Athletic and are and were simply better footballers than their Cavan counterparts,And our traditional supporters will be sick to hear that last one,but its true.
There was at least 10 points in difference between the teams today.
Wish you lads the best of luck against Tyrone,Hopefully i get a ticket and il be down jumping on the Antrim bandwagon.


Lick Arse  ::)




















Only joking by far the better team and i will be in Clones shouting for you myself in the USFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2009, 11:02:31 AM
Still over the moon. Always believed we could beat Cavan but being in an ulster final seems a bit unreal just yet!

Many thanks for the cavan posters congratulations.

I'd be the same as you hatchetfield. I always supported but being honest, even though I thought baker had brought us on, I didn't think we'd beat Donegal.

Bring on Tyrone and hopefully a trip or two to Croke Park!

Still waiting for Bannside's I told you so...

Niall McKeever going to Oz seems a much greater loss now!! He won some amount of ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on June 28, 2009, 12:24:06 PM
Well done to Baker and all involved with the footballers great effort. Might have to join the bandwagon myself and try to make it for my first USFC match !!! Great game last night and played some lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on June 28, 2009, 06:45:43 PM
Anyone know when the St. Galls vs Cargin game is ?  Was told it's tomorrow evening but i'm thinkin it couldn't be wit the football on saturday and the hurling today ?

Any predictions for it, would it be worth a watch ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 07:23:34 PM
this wed night. might be at our pitch, not sure. would not read too much into club games between us and Cargin. its a bit like when Loughgiel play Cushendall in the league, Loughgiel usually win the league games and Cushendall usually win the.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
Well done and if I'm honest, ye have a better chance of beating Tyrone than we would ever have.  Jesus, I'd take it, but can you imagine us against Tyrone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 29, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
What a great weekend to be a Saff,Sat night in Clones was unreal to see an Antrim team perform to such a high standard and win an Ulster semi-final with a lot to spare.It was also great to be on the terraces at Clones and see so many ex-Antrim players who have given so much over the years totally overwhelmed with joy.Lets get the flags out now in the build up to the 19th and enjoy this final which could be the first of many we could see with this young squad of players. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 01:17:46 PM
i'd say club football will be on the back burner for a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on June 29, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
some weekend alright glens abu!!
still cant believe it, antrim in an ulster football final, never thought i would see the day!!
the composure and way antrim played, bossed the game, unbelievable!

tony scullion is a totally different beast this year!

baker & niall conway have to get alot of credit for it, but the players themselves have really showed what their capable of!!
i could go through the whole team, to a man, they wanted it, big time!!
big mckeever, i thought he was a duhal.
6 clean catches in any match is good by any mans standards.
he just blew up before he hit cross field ball which ended in 45 which ended in goal!
but i cant critise any player, for their work ethic, enthusiasm or appetite for the game!

im not going to get too carried away and say we might beat tyrone, that would just be clean silly!
wouldnt it?!?!?

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 29, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on June 29, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
some weekend alright glens abu!!
still cant believe it, antrim in an ulster football final, never thought i would see the day!!
the composure and way antrim played, bossed the game, unbelievable!

tony scullion is a totally different beast this year!

baker & niall conway have to get alot of credit for it, but the players themselves have really showed what their capable of!!
i could go through the whole team, to a man, they wanted it, big time!!
big mckeever, i thought he was a duhal.
6 clean catches in any match is good by any mans standards.
he just blew up before he hit cross field ball which ended in 45 which ended in goal!
but i cant critise any player, for their work ethic, enthusiasm or appetite for the game!

im not going to get too carried away and say we might beat tyrone, that would just be clean silly!
wouldnt it?!?!?

;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D would it  ;D you are right every player on that field gave everything and not one could be criticized, sure we will enjoy our day in the sun they dont come around too often,come on the wee Saffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2009, 01:57:47 PM
Great spirit and togetherness shown in both game so far which to be applauded and shows the work that has gone in, in the background.

The talent is there for sure, it was always about belief and hopefully they will start to develop a bit of ruthlessness to go along with the rest of the many positives.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 29, 2009, 06:21:02 PM
best weekend of my life
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
we could end up doing a Fermanagh. reach the latter stages of the All Ireland. the qualifiers (should we lose to Tyrone) could give us a route to the semi finals.

all those lads are now saying there is a chance to do something, i dont think they will want to crumble on the 19th of July, i can be a long summer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WhoAreYaWhoAreYa! on June 29, 2009, 10:03:36 PM
Fairplay to that team.
Just show that a bit of beleif instilled int oa team can do.
When they play for each other and are focused, good sports psychology used there i rckon. If only Down could take note. >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2009, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
we could end up doing a Fermanagh. reach the latter stages of the All Ireland. the qualifiers (should we lose to Tyrone) could give us a route to the semi finals.

all those lads are now saying there is a chance to do something, i dont think they will want to crumble on the 19th of July, i can be a long summer[\b]
You can be whatever you want Milltown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 29, 2009, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
we could end up doing a Fermanagh. reach the latter stages of the All Ireland. the qualifiers (should we lose to Tyrone) could give us a route to the semi finals.

all those lads are now saying there is a chance to do something, i dont think they will want to crumble on the 19th of July, it can be a long summer[\b]
You can be whatever you want Milltown
Quote from: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
we could end up doing a Fermanagh. reach the latter stages of the All Ireland. the qualifiers (should we lose to Tyrone) could give us a route to the semi finals.

all those lads are now saying there is a chance to do something, i dont think they will want to crumble on the 19th of July, it can be a long summer

;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 01, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Just back from the St Galls v Cargin game, it finished a draw, St Galls 2-12 Cargin 1-15.  Both sides were far from full strength with St Galls having a larger number of absentees.  Overall, I felt Cargin deserved the win.  They conceded a soft enough goal in the 1st half  and St Galls were awarded what appeared to be a dubious enoguh penalty in the 2nd half.  Niblock came on during the 2nd half and made a definite impact and with Cargin losing shape, St Galls came back into it.  Agree with you Milltown in the sense I can see how St Galls would be a different proposition come championship time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 02, 2009, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 01, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Just back from the St Galls v Cargin game, it finished a draw, St Galls 2-12 Cargin 1-15.  Both sides were far from full strength with St Galls having a larger number of absentees.  Overall, I felt Cargin deserved the win.  They conceded a soft enough goal in the 1st half  and St Galls were awarded what appeared to be a dubious enoguh penalty in the 2nd half.  Niblock came on during the 2nd half and made a definite impact and with Cargin losing shape, St Galls came back into it.  Agree with you Milltown in the sense I can see how St Galls would be a different proposition come championship time.

A draw? Who'd a thought...  :D

Must have been a good open match Atticus with that scoreline? Neither team playing their full hand, but neither ceding ground. What was the score at half-time? Did many of the county men feature?

Building up to a humdinger of a championship semi-final - particularly given the token resistance Cargin put up last year at that stage.

It will be like Munster. Whoever wins that semi-final will have the championship in the bag.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 02, 2009, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on July 02, 2009, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 01, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Just back from the St Galls v Cargin game, it finished a draw, St Galls 2-12 Cargin 1-15.  Both sides were far from full strength with St Galls having a larger number of absentees.  Overall, I felt Cargin deserved the win.  They conceded a soft enough goal in the 1st half  and St Galls were awarded what appeared to be a dubious enoguh penalty in the 2nd half.  Niblock came on during the 2nd half and made a definite impact and with Cargin losing shape, St Galls came back into it.  Agree with you Milltown in the sense I can see how St Galls would be a different proposition come championship time.

A draw? Who'd a thought...  :D

Must have been a good open match Atticus with that scoreline? Neither team playing their full hand, but neither ceding ground. What was the score at half-time? Did many of the county men feature?

Building up to a humdinger of a championship semi-final - particularly given the token resistance Cargin put up last year at that stage.

It will be like Munster. Whoever wins that semi-final will have the championship in the bag.

Yeah, It was an enjoyable enough game to watch.  Think Cargin were 3 points up at half time, from what i remember it was 1-8 to 1-5.  Cargin conceded a soft enough goal not long before the half time whistle.

County Men playing for Cargin included Tomas Mc Cann, Scullion, Crozier and Close.

St. Galls had  Gallagher playing for them as well as Mc Clean, O'Neill and Colin Brady. Niblock came on the 2nd half.

Quite a few St Galls missing as there was county hurling training so that ruled out two of the mc gourtys and karl stewart. 

Was talking to a chap at the game that says Kevin Mc Gourty has hung up his boots, any truth in that milltown?

Would imagine a championship game between them would be a good contest, would still fancy St Galls to shade it with all their players out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 02, 2009, 06:01:21 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 02, 2009, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on July 02, 2009, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 01, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
Just back from the St Galls v Cargin game, it finished a draw, St Galls 2-12 Cargin 1-15.  Both sides were far from full strength with St Galls having a larger number of absentees.  Overall, I felt Cargin deserved the win.  They conceded a soft enough goal in the 1st half  and St Galls were awarded what appeared to be a dubious enoguh penalty in the 2nd half.  Niblock came on during the 2nd half and made a definite impact and with Cargin losing shape, St Galls came back into it.  Agree with you Milltown in the sense I can see how St Galls would be a different proposition come championship time.

A draw? Who'd a thought...  :D

Must have been a good open match Atticus with that scoreline? Neither team playing their full hand, but neither ceding ground. What was the score at half-time? Did many of the county men feature?

Building up to a humdinger of a championship semi-final - particularly given the token resistance Cargin put up last year at that stage.

It will be like Munster. Whoever wins that semi-final will have the championship in the bag.

Yeah, It was an enjoyable enough game to watch.  Think Cargin were 3 points up at half time, from what i remember it was 1-8 to 1-5.  Cargin conceded a soft enough goal not long before the half time whistle.

County Men playing for Cargin included Tomas Mc Cann, Scullion, Crozier and Close.

St. Galls had  Gallagher playing for them as well as Mc Clean, O'Neill and Colin Brady. Niblock came on the 2nd half.

Quite a few St Galls missing as there was county hurling training so that ruled out two of the mc gourtys and karl stewart. 

Was talking to a chap at the game that says Kevin Mc Gourty has hung up his boots, any truth in that milltown?

Would imagine a championship game between them would be a good contest, would still fancy St Galls to shade it with all their players out.


haven't seen him about, he will more than likely play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aerlik on July 03, 2009, 06:03:30 AM
Lads, congrats on a great win against Cavan, and sincere best wishes for the Ulster final.  Never say never.  This is great for sport in Ulster.

Can any of you provide me with the names of the 1970 panel of players and subs?  I have tried various avenues but without success.  I may have had a relative on the team/panel.  Much appreciated.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Erne Gael on July 03, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
anyone who was at the cargin v st galls game..

how did rory gallagher get on? i still reckon he could do a job with fermanagh 4ward line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 03, 2009, 01:42:55 PM
Havent seen him at senior yet but was down at a reserve game and at that level he stood out. played a lot of clever ball and let others, through his quick passes/vision take the scores

he's played senior a few times and by all accounts his free taking ability is very good. which helps us as we didn't have a regular free taker this last couple of years.


i'd say he'll be a big bonus come the serious part of the championship. dont know his final position though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 03, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
Quote from: Erne Gael on July 03, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
anyone who was at the cargin v st galls game..

how did rory gallagher get on? i still reckon he could do a job with fermanagh 4ward line

He was alright Erne, he started at CHF,  he showed good movement and awareness at times.  Could be mistaken but i think he scored a couple of frees.  Unfair to judge him on the basis of a league game that didn't seem to be taken all that seriously, but overall he didn't stand out.

But yeah he could be worth a shout in that current Fermanagh team



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clarshack on July 04, 2009, 12:00:34 AM
in antrim if 2 teams have a clash of colours - who is obliged to wear their away strip? is it the home or away team?
is there a rule set in stone or just a gentlemans agreement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 04, 2009, 03:24:04 PM
having clashed with a few clubs the unwritten rule is the home team wear the away rig!!! only in Ireland would you get the home team in away jersey's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 02:27:18 PM
Random queston ... When does Belfast become part of County Down ??

I know that Bredagh is a county down club, it's based around upper ormeau so is it once you cross the ormeau bridge that you are in County Down ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 05, 2009, 05:27:36 PM
Down clubs are separated from Antrim by the River Lagan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 07:04:32 PM
Cheers Milltown.

If Tyrone managed to get lucky and put the Saffrons out ... and i do emphasise the word 'IF' ... whose scalp out of the below would ya fancy ???

1. Down v Laois
2. Monaghan v Derry
3. Longford v Kerry
4. Wexford v Roscommon
5. Tipperary v Sligo
6. Donegal v Clare
7. Westmeath v Meath
8. Wicklow v Cavan

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2009, 08:54:28 PM
1,4, 5 or 8.

There's nothing that frightening, Kerry aside, in that draw.

Probably best to avoid derry or monaghan too.

That is IF...

Truly uninspiring draw there it has to be said. Derry Monaghan has the potential to be the worst game of football ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 05, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 05, 2009, 08:57:29 PM
There will also be Limerick, Dublin/Kildare and Galway/Mayo.


What the fcuk are you talking about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
Could be wrong, but i don't think so hardstation. Think the defeated finalists have to play the winners of round 2 of the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 05, 2009, 09:18:16 PM
The round 2 qualifer winners, 8 of them, then play each other in round 3 of the qualifers to leave 4 teams. These 4 teams then will play the losers of the provincial finals and the winners will be in the quarter finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 05, 2009, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
Could be wrong, but i don't think so hardstation. Think the defeated finalists have to play the winners of round 2 of the qualifiers.

What the fcuk are you on about too? So there are 8 provinces now? Jaysus lads if you've any notions of sharing a pint with us in a fortnight, brush up on the oul Games will yiz. Will ye be staying about for the presentation?

I hear Mickey Harte made two pages of notes during the Antrim/Cavan game. I think he was ghost-writing Dooher's speech.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
Just after watching a few of your most talented boys on RTE 2, Mossy Mc Cann and Niall Mc Keever on that OZ Factor show.  

I was heartened by the absence of Sean Mc Greevy, i'm assuming he told that Ricky Nixon c**t where to go !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 05, 2009, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
Could be wrong, but i don't think so hardstation. Think the defeated finalists have to play the winners of round 2 of the qualifiers.

What the fcuk are you on about too? So there are 8 provinces now? Jaysus lads if you've any notions of sharing a pint with us in a fortnight, brush up on the oul Games will yiz. Will ye be staying about for the presentation?

I hear Mickey Harte made two pages of notes during the Antrim/Cavan game. I think he was ghost-writing Dooher's speech.

Made a mistake ONeill and i was duly corrected by Archie,  i blame the back to work blues i get on a sunday evening, it stop's me thinking straight.  But still,  I take comfort that you'll be feeling a lot worse on the evening sunday the 19th of July.  The Baker will have rustled up something extra-special for you arrogant pricks and i for one hope ya's choke !   :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 05, 2009, 10:03:36 PM
Gonna be some sight with 15000 Antrim fans each buying a big bap and crisps as a filler. Great craic shouting 'hi Smicker' and seeing 4000 turning around. Hope it's a hot day. Thon shell suits will be fairly tested. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 06, 2009, 12:30:59 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 05, 2009, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
Could be wrong, but i don't think so hardstation. Think the defeated finalists have to play the winners of round 2 of the qualifiers.

What the fcuk are you on about too? So there are 8 provinces now? Jaysus lads if you've any notions of sharing a pint with us in a fortnight, brush up on the oul Games will yiz. Will ye be staying about for the presentation?

I hear Mickey Harte made two pages of notes during the Antrim/Cavan game. I think he was ghost-writing Dooher's speech.

O'Neill your hubris is entertaining. If you'd spent less time proof-reading Dooher's speech and more time "brushing up on the oul Games" yerself...
Provincial losers go into Round Four of the qualifiers against the four winners from Round Three which is the eight winners from Round 2 playing off against each other:
http://www.gaa.ie/page/gaa_football_championship_2009.html

Could be an important bit of detail for you  ;)

Antrim 3-6
Tyrone 1-11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 06, 2009, 12:38:07 AM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on July 06, 2009, 12:30:59 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 05, 2009, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 05, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
Could be wrong, but i don't think so hardstation. Think the defeated finalists have to play the winners of round 2 of the qualifiers.

What the fcuk are you on about too? So there are 8 provinces now? Jaysus lads if you've any notions of sharing a pint with us in a fortnight, brush up on the oul Games will yiz. Will ye be staying about for the presentation?

I hear Mickey Harte made two pages of notes during the Antrim/Cavan game. I think he was ghost-writing Dooher's speech.

O'Neill your hubris is entertaining. If you'd spent less time proof-reading Dooher's speech and more time "brushing up on the oul Games" yerself...
Provincial losers go into Round Four of the qualifiers against the four winners from Round Three which is the eight winners from Round 2 playing off against each other:
http://www.gaa.ie/page/gaa_football_championship_2009.html

Could be an important bit of detail for you  ;)

Antrim 3-6
Tyrone 1-11

Haven't a notion what you're trying to prove here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 06, 2009, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 05, 2009, 09:18:16 PM
The round 2 qualifer winners, 8 of them, then play each other in round 3 of the qualifers to leave 4 teams. These 4 teams then will play the losers of the provincial finals and the winners will be in the quarter finals.

And of course the losing provincial finalists will be kept apart, so Antrim won't be able to draw Dublin/Kildare in round 4.  That's provided we lose Ulster of course.  Like Hardstation I believe our best bet is to go through the front door. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 08, 2009, 12:54:28 AM
(http://www.rogercasementsgac.com/uploads/assets/upforfinal.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 08, 2009, 07:32:05 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on July 08, 2009, 12:54:28 AM
(http://www.rogercasementsgac.com/uploads/assets/upforfinal.jpg)
No Paddy Heaney?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 08, 2009, 12:06:31 PM
Just the guys mentioned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 08, 2009, 01:48:42 PM
Any chat of any general supporters buses going from Belfast to watch the Saffrons vanquish the evil Tyrone scum on the 19th of July ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2009, 02:05:27 PM
Very harsh Atticus

Buses going from all over NA and the SW should be a good carnival atmosphere heres hoping for a good day weather wise!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2009, 04:53:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 08, 2009, 02:05:27 PM
Very harsh Atticus

Buses going from all over NA and the SW should be a good carnival atmosphere heres hoping for a good day weather wise!

Any predictions on the likely turn out from North Antrim?? Are we all going to jump on the football band wagon, or stay true the noble (although tarnished) cause???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 08, 2009, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2009, 04:53:26 PM

Any predictions on the likely turn out from North Antrim?? Are we all going to jump on the football band wagon, or stay true the noble (although tarnished) cause???

Sure didn't you lads propose Baker in the first place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 08, 2009, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 08, 2009, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2009, 04:53:26 PM

Any predictions on the likely turn out from North Antrim?? Are we all going to jump on the football band wagon, or stay true the noble (although tarnished) cause???

Sure didn't you lads propose Baker in the first place.

Cushendun, allegedly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 08, 2009, 11:29:54 PM
well done to the emmets!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on July 09, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
what do any of you fellas think of the antrim county board adding £1 to price of tickets for ulster final!
apparently its for development, underage!
someone correct me if i'm wrong!

not a bad way of making a few £'s!
but think their taking the mick abit, doing it on ulster final tickets!
saying antirm got 10 thousand tickets and going by irish news yesterday,
county had sold over 7 thousand.

means they will make over 7 grand a quid a ticket!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 01:07:10 PM
Happy enough with that, means the bandwagon jumpers are making some contribution to the development of the county. Plus genuine fans wont mind anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 09, 2009, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 01:07:10 PM
Happy enough with that, means the bandwagon jumpers are making some contribution to the development of the county. Plus genuine fans wont mind anyway
Dont mind,as long as the money is allocated as advertised............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 01:25:45 PM
Now thats a different story entirely with this county  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on July 09, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
just drove up the falls today and very disappointed that the Gaels of Belfast have very few flags or bunting out.A couple of flags at the bottom of whiterock and a few at O'Neills in andytown.I would have thought the local gaa clubs by this stage would be starting to have a bit of colour about the place and get the buzz going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on July 09, 2009, 07:18:59 PM
Quote from: glens abu on July 09, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
just drove up the falls today and very disappointed that the Gaels of Belfast have very few flags or bunting out.A couple of flags at the bottom of whiterock and a few at O'Neills in andytown.I would have thought the local gaa clubs by this stage would be starting to have a bit of colour about the place and get the buzz going.

Disappointed myself,  I have the flag flying from the house but there is some other team's colours flying in the town, didnt know tyrone added blue to there jersey.
Moneyglass is well decorated tho


The bus company we are using told me he is fully booked for the game, he has buses from toome, randalstown, portglenone, ballymena, and creggan.

Anywhere selling flags or bunting to get the town sorted this week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on July 09, 2009, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on July 09, 2009, 07:18:59 PM
Quote from: glens abu on July 09, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
just drove up the falls today and very disappointed that the Gaels of Belfast have very few flags or bunting out.A couple of flags at the bottom of whiterock and a few at O'Neills in andytown.I would have thought the local gaa clubs by this stage would be starting to have a bit of colour about the place and get the buzz going.

Disappointed myself,  I have the flag flying from the house but there is some other team's colours flying in the town, didnt know tyrone added blue to there jersey.
Moneyglass is well decorated tho


The bus company we are using told me he is fully booked for the game, he has buses from toome, randalstown, portglenone, ballymena, and creggan.

Anywhere selling flags or bunting to get the town sorted this week?

what town you close to then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GaelicGames.In on July 10, 2009, 09:56:22 AM
Hi there,
I'm trying to put together a list of all the recent Antrim footballers and their clubs. Can any one help by adding in the first names and the clubs?
(Please can you keep an eye out for players with the same first initals eg P Canavan could either of the Tyrone footballers so dont just change it to Peter or Pascal - could you just add a note to say that)

Sean   McGreevy   
E   McLernon   
T   Convery   
G   Bell   
G   Adams   
A   Morris   
M   Mulholland   
J   Quinn   
J   Barr   
C   McCabe   
P   Logan   
F   Wilson   
Kevin   Brady   
O   Quinn   
R   McAleese   
P   McCann   
O   Doherty   
A   Finnegan   
P   Close   
K   Madden   
P   O'Connor   
J   Kelly   
A   Convery   
S   Kelly   
M   McCrory   
G   Flynn   
M   McCarry   
K   Doyle   
N   Ward   
S   McKenna   
N   Doyle   
J   McKeever   
P   Murray   
E   McCann   
J   Murphy   
C   Anderson   
Colin   Brady   
SP   O'Hagan   
K   McGourty   
C   Kelly   
D   O'Hare   
J   Storey   
T   O'Neill   
C   Tumelty   
R   O'Loan   
J   O'Neill   
C   McCann   
G   Brown   
D   Martin   
C   Lynch   
K   Murray   
J   Marron   
H   McKay   
P   Doherty   
Mark   Dougan   
A   McClean   
Tony   Scullion   
K   Close   
B   Herron   
J   McAleese   
D   Gault   
S   Devlin   
C   Gallagher   
Michael   McCann   
B   McCann   
C   Close   
N   Enright   
A   McLean   
Aodhan   Gallagher   
J   Finucane   
A   Press   
Sean   McVeigh   
C   McGoldrick   
M   Magill   
P   Cunningham   
C   McKeown   
N   Donaghy   
O   O'Neill   
A   McKeefry   
N   Scullion   
E   O'Neill   
M   McGill   
A   Scullion   
K   Niblock   
CJ   McGourty   
K   Stewart   
Tomas   McCann   
S   Burns   
L   Higgins   
M   Rea   
Justin   Crozier   
James   Loughery   
James   Loughery   
M   Pollock   
B   Hasson   
C   Murray   
G   Crossey   
C   Totten   
P   Conlon   
K   Boyle   
Kevin   O'Boyle   
S   Burke   
A   Douglas   
P   Carey   
D   Edwards   
D   McAlernon   
G   McAleese   
L   Carlin   
C   Maxwell   
D   Graham   
C   Creaney   
N   O'Connell   
K   McGlinchey   
C   Fleming   
Declan   O'Hagan   
D   McCann   
N   McKeever   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 10, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
Sean   McGreevy   - St Pauls
E   McLernon   - Enda - Creggan
T   Convery   - Tony - Casements Portglenone
G   Bell   - Gavin - Rossa
G   Adams   - Gearoid - St Johns
A   Morris   - Aidan - St Johns
M   Mulholland   - Martin - Glenravel
J   Quinn   - Joe - St Pauls
J   Barr   - John - Sarsfields
C   McCabe   - Colm - Lamh Dearg
P   Logan   - Paddy - Was Ahoghill - now Ballymena
F   Wilson   - Frankie
Kevin   Brady   - Moneyglass
O   Quinn   - Owen - Rasharkin
R   McAleese   - Ryan - Rasharkin
P   McCann   - Peter - Ballymena
O   Doherty   - Owen - Casements Portglenone
A   Finnegan   - Anto - St Pauls
P   Close   - Paul - Rossa
K   Madden   - Kevin - Portglenone
P   O'Connor   - Pat - St Galls
J   Kelly   - John - St Hohns
A   Convery   (is probably same as Tony above - Anthony)
S   Kelly   - Sean - St Galls
M   McCrory   - Mark - St Galls
G   Flynn   - Gary - St Pauls
M   McCarry   - Martin - Portglenone
K   Doyle   - Kevin - Cargin
N   Ward   - Niall - St Pauls
S   McKenna   - Seamus - Rossa
N   Doyle   - Niall - Cargin
J   McKeever   - John - Portglenone
P   Murray   - Paddy - St Galls
E   McCann   - Eamon - Cargin
J   Murphy   - James - St Johns
C   Anderson   - Ciaran - St Johns
Colin   Brady   - St Galls
SP   O'Hagan   - Shaun Paul - Glenravel - (RIP)
K   McGourty   - Kevin - St Galls
C   Kelly   - Conall - St Johns
D   O'Hare   - Darren - St Galls
J   Storey   - James - Portglenone
T   O'Neill   - Terry - St Galls
C   Tumelty   - Chris - Lamh Dearg
R   O'Loan   - Ruairi - Glenravel
J   O'Neill   - Jamesie - St Pauls
C   McCann   - Chris - Was St Galls Now St Brigids
G   Brown   - Gavin - Lamh Dearg
D   Martin   - Darryl - Creggan
C   Lynch   - Chris - Lamh Dearg
K   Murray   - Kevin - Lamh Dearg
J   Marron   - James - Moneyglass
H   McKay   - Hugh - Creggan
P   Doherty   - Paul - Rasharkin
Mark   Dougan   - Creggan
A   McClean   - Andy - St Galls
Tony   Scullion   - Cargin
K   Close   - Kieran - Cargin
B   Herron   - Brendan - Lamh Dearg
J   McAleese   - Johnny - Rasharkin
D   Gault   Damien - St Enda's
S   Devlin   Shane - Cargin
C   Gallagher   Ciaran - St Galls
Michael   McCann   - Cargin
B   McCann   - Brian - Cargin
C   Close   - (Same as K Close)
N   Enright   - Niall - Gort na Mona
A   McLean   - Same as A McClean above - St Galls - McLean is correct spelling I think
Aodhan   Gallagher   - St Galls
J   Finucane   - John - Lamh Dearg
A   Press   - Anto - St Johns
Sean   McVeigh   - Sean - Ballymena
C   McGoldrick   - Conor - St Teresa's
M   Magill   - Michael - Randalstown
P   Cunningham   - Paddy - Lamh Dearg
C   McKeown   - Ciaran - Glenravel
N   Donaghy   - Neil - Moy Tyrone
O   O'Neill   - Owen  - Cargin
A   McKeefry   - Adrian - Moneyglass
N   Scullion   - Niall - Cargin
E   O'Neill   - Eoin - Cargin Same as O O'Neill above
M   McGill   - Same as M Magill above - Magill correct spelling
A   Scullion  
K   Niblock   - Kevin 0- St Galls
CJ   McGourty  - St Galls
K   Stewart   - Karl - St Galls
Tomas   McCann   - Cargin
S   Burns  
L   Higgins  
M   Rea   - Mickey - Tyrone Club
Justin   Crozier   - Cargin
James   Loughery   - St Brigids
James   Loughery  
M   Pollock   - Michael - Gort na Mona
B   Hasson   - Brendan - Rasharkin
C   Murray   - Conor Lamh Dearg
G   Crossey   - Gerard - St Endas
C   Totten   - Conleth - Randalstown
P   Conlon   - Paul - Gort na Mona
K   Boyle   - Probably Kevin below
Kevin   O'Boyle   - Kevin - Cargin
S   Burke   - Sean - St Galls
A   Douglas   - Aaron- St Johns
P   Carey   - Patrick - Portglenone
D   Edwards   - Dara - St Brigids
D   McAlernon   - David - Aghagallon
G   McAleese   - Gerard - Portglenone
L   Carlin   - Liam - St Pauls
C   Maxwell   - Conor - St Enda's
D   Graham   - Diarmuid - Ahoghill
C   Creaney   - Conor - Glenavy
N   O'Connell   - Neil - Ahoghill
K   McGlinchey   - Kevin - St Johns
C   Fleming   - Colm - Rossa
Declan   O'Hagan   - St Johns
D   McCann   - Dermott - Creggan
N   McKeever - Niall - Portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 10, 2009, 11:20:55 AM
Sterling work Mhic Easmuint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SERVASPORT on July 10, 2009, 01:50:42 PM
A   Scullion - Anthony (Tony) Cargin
S Burns - Sean - St Galls
L Higgins - Laurence - St Pauls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 10, 2009, 02:04:52 PM
Frankie Wilson - Lamh Dhearg??
Aidan Morris also played for Newtownstewart in Tyrone
Mickey Rea - Brackaville in Coalisland??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
Mickey Rea - Derrytresk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 10, 2009, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 09, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
what do any of you fellas think of the antrim county board adding £1 to price of tickets for ulster final!
apparently its for development, underage!
someone correct me if i'm wrong!

not a bad way of making a few £'s!
but think their taking the mick abit, doing it on ulster final tickets!
saying antirm got 10 thousand tickets and going by irish news yesterday,
county had sold over 7 thousand.

means they will make over 7 grand a quid a ticket!!


No better than the touts who flog their tickets at rates above the printed price and a shocking, sickening piece of opportunism against the Gaels of Antrim. £1 this time, nothing to stop it being £5 or £10 next day. I'll not be availing of their kind offer.

I would like to ask those who came up with this scam a few questions:

1. How many tickets did you allocate to yourselves?
2. How many of these did you pay for?
3. Are you prepared to detail the total number of tickets allocated to Antrim and the total income received from the sale of these tickets and will you preovide receipts to verify this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
If I'm right A Scullion would be Adrian formerly full back of Stinsons who I think moved to Rasharkin at senior level at some point. I do think he played for Ahoghill for a while. Could be wrong here though - Mhic Eismuint would surely know these things more than me...

I haver heard of this pound extra on a ticket thing before. Could have been from the hurling in Croke though...


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 11, 2009, 02:17:56 AM
Yep your right with A Scullion, just didn't ring a bell for a while.  Did play for Ahoghill, now with Rasharkin. 

I don't see an issue with the extra £1 per ticket, its not a major extra outlay to the overall price of a ticket.  But it works out a nice extra £7,000 or £10,000 extra funds for little work.  Funds aren't easy got. 

Out selling tickets tonight for the Up for the Final night the club is running.  It's a hateful job, but one that needs to be done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 11, 2009, 10:38:16 AM
I don't see much of an issue with the £1 a ticket scheme either.

Would it be fair to say that there will be a large number of fans travelling to the ulster final who wouldn't normally travel to games ?

Many of these new fans have been understabdably caught up in the hype and want to be part of the occasion.  I would guess that a lot of these fans don't have any affiliations with clubs so therefore the most likely way they are going to source tickets is through one of the below options:

1. General Public Sale that was held at Casement

2. Ticketmaster.ie - http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/180042E2D651305C?artistid=944137&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229

If they had of bought tickets through ticketmaster they would have been stung with a 2 Euro service charge.  I'm pretty sure that 2 euro service charge will not go towards benefitting antrim gaa in any way.

On the otherhand, if they bought their tickets at casement not only would they have paid less than ticketmaster service charge but that pound will go towards benefiting antrim gaa.

I know if i was a "new" saffron fan what option i would want to go for.

Why should genuine fans be penalised then ?  Well perhaps they shouldn't.

But if the County Board are able to document how much revenue was raised by the extra £1 scheme and what that will go towards, I think that will more than satisfy the genuine fans. As Mhic Easmuint says funds are not easily obtained these days.  It's a simple but effective method of raising additional money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on July 11, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 10, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
If I'm right A Scullion would be Adrian formerly full back of Stinsons who I think moved to Rasharkin at senior level at some point. I do think he played for Ahoghill for a while. Could be wrong here though - Mhic Eismuint would surely know these things more than me...

I haver heard of this pound extra on a ticket thing before. Could have been from the hurling in Croke though...



Down have been doing this for years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 11, 2009, 11:22:50 AM
As long as they are transparent about it, there was no talk of "funds to benefit Antrim GAA" when they were charging an extra pound on the price of tickets for the Dublin match last month. Maybe they have their story straight this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on July 11, 2009, 11:24:48 AM
Are the county board accounts free to view for all gaa members? surely they would have a breakdown of all income included within.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2009, 11:43:20 AM
No matter what is said about "the doctor" he has been very good about turning the county into a viable business which is no bad thing. Those sweeps and the new development ground etc have been a great thing.

No harm in the £1 thing as long as , like people say, we know where it goes. U;ster council need to know how many tickets casement sell anyway so it's very easily accountable. I definitely have seen it before so I'm not sure it can be said we as a county are milking things.

Not sure about county board accounts. No expert but you only have to make accounts visible if you're a PLC - is that not correct?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 11, 2009, 12:02:09 PM
The £1 markup on tickets sold through the county office has been going on since they got the ticket machines installed there - i think it's a decent initiative to raise funds for development of teams.  I would like to see some kind of accountability for where all the money so far as gone though.

the accounts are issued to all club delegates each year at the AGM - after that its up to the clubs to inform members if they want to know the details.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 11, 2009, 12:17:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2009, 11:43:20 AM
No matter what is said about "the doctor" he has been very good about turning the county into a viable business which is no bad thing. Those sweeps and the new development ground etc have been a great thing.

No harm in the £1 thing as long as , like people say, we know where it goes. U;ster council need to know how many tickets casement sell anyway so it's very easily accountable. I definitely have seen it before so I'm not sure it can be said we as a county are milking things.

Not sure about county board accounts. No expert but you only have to make accounts visible if you're a PLC - is that not correct?



as far as im aware, most clubs/charities have to make their accounts available to members at the agm for approval.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the_codger on July 14, 2009, 11:23:14 PM
Not much craic on here before your biggest game in 40 years.


Oh Ah GAA
We played Cork and Kerry
We fiddled with the ball in Donegal
But the best teams up in DERRY!

:D     :D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Mighty Oaks on July 15, 2009, 08:04:05 PM
Lads just like to pass on my best wishes to you for the Ulster Final this weekend, and be safe in the knowledge that every 'man, woman and child in Derry' will be kicking and catching every ball with you on Sunday - and applauding 'the legend that is BAKER!!'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clawaddy on July 15, 2009, 08:56:22 PM
just after driving up the falls road - very disappointed in the amount of decorations. A few shops and whitefort had flags out but if this was another county in their first ulster final in many years every business and house would be showing their support. Indeed a weel known bar which always advertises on big match days in casement to attract customers did not have a single decoration! Quite a few of the players travel on this road and i know from speaking to one of them they are dissapointed. From what I have read and heard there is much better support out in the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2009, 10:38:13 AM
Crumlin and Glenavy plastered this morning.

Was in Coalisland yesterday. Not a jot. Hope the Saffronites don't shame us on Sunday in terms of colour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on July 16, 2009, 12:08:16 PM
Heard a cracker last night, my woman works with a girl whos mate was going out with a high profile  antrim player. she got a text the other day to say he was  finishin their year long relationship. Cause of the split.....He Didnt want to be going steady when in an ulster final! Bring on the groupies  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the_codger on July 16, 2009, 05:56:59 PM
Quote from: toiletroller on July 16, 2009, 12:08:16 PM
Heard a cracker last night, my woman works with a girl whos mate was going out with a high profile  antrim player. she got a text the other day to say he was  finishin their year long relationship. Cause of the split.....He Didnt want to be going steady when in an ulster final! Bring on the groupies  :D

Fair play to the cub, ride them all big and small!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on July 27, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Has anyone got the list of times and venues for this weeks sfc matches.

My predictions

1. Cargin v Moneyglass by a bagfull
2. Lamh Dherg v Gort Na Mona  by 4
3  St Pauls v St Johns     both not that hot so going for a draw
4. St Galls v Rasharkin    by a bagfull
5. Portglenone v Creggan by 2points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toiletroller on July 29, 2009, 10:49:26 AM
Whats the scoop on the  Cunningham incident documented in today IN?
Who were they playing. If its true sounds very malicious...not what the fella deserves after his dedication to the Antrim cause in the last month especially. So this shit isnt just confinded to the Derry circus.  club scene
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on July 29, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
Disgrace, why some one would feel the need to do this is beyond me. Heard they were playing Sarsfields but open to correction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 29, 2009, 11:47:19 AM
Quote from: toiletroller on July 29, 2009, 10:49:26 AM
Whats the scoop on the  Cunningham incident documented in today IN?
Who were they playing. If its true sounds very malicious...not what the fella deserves after his dedication to the Antrim cause in the last month especially. So this shit isnt just confinded to the Derry circus.  club scene

Doesn't sound good. Will Antrim CB have the necessary bite behind all the recent smiles? This needs to be investigated quickly and thoroughly. If it is found to be malicious then the book needs to be thrown at the culprit. There has to be zero tolerence to violence and thuggery. If the culprit can't/won't be identified then his club should be hammered. It took Ballinderry club being suspended to finally flush Conway out to own up and take his punishment. Derry CB have their faults but they played that one right.

Over to you Doc. The spotlight's shining...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 29, 2009, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrons on July 29, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
Disgrace, why some one would feel the need to do this is beyond me. Heard they were playing Sarsfields but open to correction.

what happened don't have the paper in front of me?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 29, 2009, 01:08:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 29, 2009, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrons on July 29, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
Disgrace, why some one would feel the need to do this is beyond me. Heard they were playing Sarsfields but open to correction.

what happened don't have the paper in front of me?

All the IN says is that he had his cheek bone and bone near the eye broken while playing for the Lamhs.  It will require surgery.  The paper says ..."it has been reported he was struck off the ball..."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 29, 2009, 01:23:06 PM
thats bad craic. Paddy is a quiet player and does not get involved. serious loss for Lamhs this year should that be the case. he's worth at least 10/12 points a match for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 29, 2009, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 29, 2009, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrons on July 29, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
Disgrace, why some one would feel the need to do this is beyond me. Heard they were playing Sarsfields but open to correction.

what happened don't have the paper in front of me?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8173151.stm

More or less the same report is in today's Irish News (which is probably a report on the BBC report  ;) )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on July 29, 2009, 09:15:56 PM
Does no one care about the club championship or is it just me. 

Any betting anywhere for these games, heard a wee bit of a secret regarding a top club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on July 29, 2009, 09:19:11 PM
Heard it was off the ball and reports suggest that to and that is why I say disgrace. But I suppose it's probably best to reserve judgement until it is clear what happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on July 29, 2009, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 29, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
Good luck to Paddy in his recovery. Don't know the circumstances but this leaves a bad taste in the mouth of Antrim football.

Any man want to do a Spread Comp on the championship?

you make it and i'll do it lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on July 29, 2009, 11:22:36 PM
pebble dasher, your clearly mad to spill the secret...come on, out with it     :D

Or at least tell us what way you'll be bettng...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2009, 09:59:33 AM
St. Paul's v St. John's (+2.5)   St Johns

Portglenone v Creggan (+3.5)  Creggan

Lamh Dhearg (+0.5) v Gort na Mona   Gorts seeing Paddy wont be playing

Cargin v Moneyglass (+7.5)    Cargin bonus?  your being generous to Moneyglass hardstation

St. Gall's v Rasharkin (+9.5)   Rasharkin we will win but not by that margin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 30, 2009, 10:04:33 AM
Meant to say before - well done this season.
It shows that firstly I underestimated Bradley a bit, but secondly you have decent and potentially 'enough' talent to at least compete on intercounty level.
Need to bring that on and keep it going.
Bannside wasnt wrong !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2009, 10:16:39 AM
St. Paul's v St. John's (+2.5)   St Paul's

Portglenone v Creggan (+3.5)  Creggan (I expect Creggan to win this one)

Lamh Dhearg (+0.5) v Gort na Mona  Lamh Dhearg

Cargin v Moneyglass (+7.5)    Moneyglass.

St. Gall's v Rasharkin (+9.5)   St Galls - Rasharkin were lucky to score last time they played st galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 30, 2009, 10:47:07 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 30, 2009, 09:59:33 AM
St. Paul's v St. John's (+2.5)   St Johns

Portglenone v Creggan (+3.5)  Creggan

Lamh Dhearg (+0.5) v Gort na Mona   Gorts seeing Paddy wont be playing

Cargin v Moneyglass (+7.5)    Cargin bonus?  your being generous to Moneyglass hardstation

St. Gall's v Rasharkin (+9.5)   Rasharkin we will win but not by that margin

You're fooling no-one Milltown Row! Rasharkin were lucky to survive Div1 last year and are doing worse this year by all accounts. St Gall's should beat Rasharkin by at least 10 and you know it  ;) (although I don't really expect you to admit it here). You certainly will beat them by more than Cargin will beat Moneyglass. Did Moneyglass not stuff St Brides in the league the other week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 30, 2009, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on July 29, 2009, 09:15:56 PM
Does no one care about the club championship or is it just me. 

Any betting anywhere for these games, heard a wee bit of a secret regarding a top club.

C'mon P-D you can't do that! Just give us a wee bit of that wee bit of a secret you have. Or at least give us a clue about the club...

Please? Please, please?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on July 30, 2009, 07:06:11 PM
boy its like this, once i get my bet down i'll fill you all in.  :D

Lets just say championhip manager 01/02 for the pc

cargin v moneyglass  hope this game is close for a good atmosphere in creggan.
i think there will be just a lick of painter between the teams. cargin by 6

The galls should just about win with that handicap.  Whats the story with the bash brothers?

Expect creggan to come through in a thigh game against portglenone.  Portglenone have no forwards.

No cunningham has just swung this game in favour of the gorts

and st johns v st pauls still a draw.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on July 30, 2009, 10:12:44 PM
PD - did you get odds anywhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 30, 2009, 10:33:14 PM
St. John's
Creggan
Gort na Mona
Cargin
St. Gall's Bonus
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 31, 2009, 01:52:53 AM
St, Pauls
Portglenone
Lamh Dhearg
Cargin
St. Galls (BONUS)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 31, 2009, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 30, 2009, 10:33:14 PM
St. John's
Creggan
Gort na Mona
Cargin
St. Gall's Bonus


Can I have the same again please?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 31, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on July 30, 2009, 07:06:11 PM
boy its like this, once i get my bet down i'll fill you all in.  :D

Lets just say championhip manager 01/02 for the pc

cargin v moneyglass  hope this game is close for a good atmosphere in creggan.
i think there will be just a lick of painter between the teams. cargin by 6

The galls should just about win with that handicap.  Whats the story with the bash brothers?

Expect creggan to come through in a thigh game against portglenone.  Portglenone have no forwards.

No cunningham has just swung this game in favour of the gorts

and st johns v st pauls still a draw.


??? Certainly cryptic. Somebody has a new manager/lost their manager for the championship? PC= Portglenone Casements? Paddy Cunningham? O1/02= two man management team?

Hurry up and get your bet down P-D and fill us in for feck's sake!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on July 31, 2009, 12:18:11 PM
I thought over the post is a score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on July 31, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 31, 2009, 12:18:11 PM
I thought over the post is a score

Are you referring to my answer to P-D's cryptic clue or are you referring to my username?

If it's the latter then great! I have educated one more ill-informed spectator-cum-umpire  :D
(a score has to be between the posts or their imaginary extensions - there is no discretion in the rules to allow you to guess the imaginary deflection if it's over the post)

While I'm at it (because it very common nowadays and almost always disregarded), a handpassed point has to be with a closed fist. Open handed or flick passed points are not valid!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on July 31, 2009, 05:04:01 PM
pretty irrelevant tho - cant imagine the umpires coming up with the decision that it was exactly over the post, and thus wide; they'll just decide one way or the other, usually depending on whether its for/against the home team...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 07:49:21 PM
St J 0-0 St P 0-0 after 15 mins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 07:51:04 PM
Johns 1 Pauls 0
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 07:56:16 PM
Johns 2 Pauls 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 07:58:52 PM
Johns 3 Pauls 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
Johns 4 Pauls 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
Johns 6 Pauls 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
St Johns 0-7 St Pauls 0-1
Half time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:27:51 PM
Johns 9 Pauls 1

Pauls down to 14.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:35:22 PM
Johns 9 Pauls 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:38:26 PM
Johns 9 Pauls 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:41:51 PM
Johns 0-9 Pauls 1-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:46:21 PM
Johns 0-10 Pauls 1-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:49:28 PM
Johns 0-10 Pauls 1-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:51:06 PM
Johns 0-11 Pauls 1-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
That's the full time score.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2009, 10:17:34 AM
great report Hardstation.

Paddy Nugent is my age and still hurling and footballing at senior level. brilliant stuff. says a lot for not having a drink.

Neeson is a good forward in a crap team. if he was well supported then the Johnnies would be grand.  didn't realise the game was on, I'd have taken a drive over. Casement was it? crap night I'd have imagined with the weather to play good football.

still its good to get the championship up and running. St Paul's will concentrate on the hurling now. might even get a run in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 01, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
very shocked to hear that Barry Burns struck someone and got sent off  ::)

if that man struck as many people on the street as ive seen him do in matches he'd be doin a serious stretch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2009, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 01, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
very shocked to hear that Barry Burns struck someone and got sent off  ::)

if that man struck as many people on the street as I've seen him do in matches he'd be doin a serious stretch

Don't think he would hit anyone in the street.

The hard man is dying in GAA now anyway. Proper bans should be brought in to finish it all together. The numpties that do it in Casement in front of large supporters and officials are thick, lazy and unfit. I mean, straight after the Paddy Cunningham incident  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2009, 11:05:03 AM
two games at Casement tomorrow. Lamhs v Gorts at 5 and NaomhGall v Rasharkin at 7.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 01, 2009, 01:02:46 PM
Who would you fancy to win the lamh Dearg vs Gort Na Mona game ?

I'm aware Paddy Cunningham will be missing and i'm sure he'll be a huge miss, would they still be fancied to win this without him ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fred the red on August 01, 2009, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 01, 2009, 01:02:46 PM
Who would you fancy to win the lamh Dearg vs Gort Na Mona game ?

I'm aware Paddy Cunningham will be missing and i'm sure he'll be a huge miss, would they still be fancied to win this without him ?

gorts to win by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
Paddy Power are taking bets on the Antrim games tomorrow. Naomh Gall 1/10 and Cargin 1/8 also the gorts game is 11/10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 01, 2009, 09:25:26 PM
Portglenone 0-11 v 0-10 Creggan Kickhams - even though i picked them in the spreads that result will surprise a few.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2009, 01:06:29 PM
Good result for Portglenone - anyone at the game?

Creggan probably will need a year or two more under their belt before becoming a force. Be interesting to see who gets Cargin or St Galls in the final. St Brigids or Portglenone I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AFS on August 02, 2009, 06:43:54 PM
Antrim Senior Football Championship

Gort na Mona 0-13
Lamh Dhearg 0-8

Full Time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2009, 06:51:54 PM
Big result for GNM.Cunningham being out probably made all the difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 03, 2009, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2009, 05:04:01 PM
pretty irrelevant tho - cant imagine the umpires coming up with the decision that it was exactly over the post, and thus wide; they'll just decide one way or the other, usually depending on whether its for/against the home team...

Over the post at all and it is a wide. No exactly needed.

Hometown umpires will always do what they they have always done but that doesn't mean that the rule shouldn't be clarified so that neutral/honest umpires can make their honest assessments acordingly.
Fred the Red thought (as many others do) that over the post is a score so he wouldn't have been able to make a correct judgement even if he wanted to.  Hardly irrelevant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 03, 2009, 10:51:09 AM
Dire enough stuff at the St Galls Rasharkin match. As soon as CJ bagged a goal into the top corner with about 40 seconds gone the writing was on the wall. From there it was pedestrian enough. St Galls played within themselves.

Why oh why was Benny Hasson played at centre half back by Rasharkin? When at midfield or further forward and he gets motoring he is hard enough to stop at that level. He will need to step up if he is to break into the Antrim first team...big time. If he was taken in hand given a proper training programme and adhered to it it would compliment his other attibutes but at the minute he looks laboured and even runs dragging his feet. That said he is young enough and should come good.

Anyone at the Cargin game...they must have been on fire?
Good win for Portglenone them having been four down at half time...anyone at that one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 03, 2009, 11:22:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 02, 2009, 08:32:59 PM
Cargin 5-17
Moneyglass 0-05

Anybody got a view of this match? Were Moneyglass really that bad/Cargin that good? That's some mauling...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on August 03, 2009, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 03, 2009, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2009, 05:04:01 PM
pretty irrelevant tho - cant imagine the umpires coming up with the decision that it was exactly over the post, and thus wide; they'll just decide one way or the other, usually depending on whether its for/against the home team...

Over the post at all and it is a wide. No exactly needed.

Hometown umpires will always do what they they have always done but that doesn't mean that the rule shouldn't be clarified so that neutral/honest umpires can make their honest assessments acordingly.
Fred the Red thought (as many others do) that over the post is a score so he wouldn't have been able to make a correct judgement even if he wanted to.  Hardly irrelevant.


Easy lad! Didnt mean it as  an affront to your name, just reckon that if its high enough to be over the posts its far enough away from the umpires for there to be doubt as to its exact position, and so (imho!) they'll decide one way or the other without worrying about the 'over the post a wide' bit...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2009, 01:47:24 PM
According to the report Close scored 2-6 in half an hour for Cargin. I can only assume he was subbed at half time the way it read. Mick McCann scored 1-3, goal a penalty and Tomas McCann scored 1-2 or 1-3. Eoin O'Neill scored 4 points, scaldy a goal and a few others who I can't mind got a point or two each.

Sounds very one sided - that Moneyglass team aren't that bad either. Should be an interesting semi.

I didn't see the Cargin line-up but it'd be interesting to see where Michael McCann was played and if he was in FF like he was for Antrim.

Owen Doherty scored late on for Portglenone to win.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 03, 2009, 06:41:52 PM
Moneyglass were awful , not at the races at all. Cargin were impressive though. Yeah Close taken off at half-time, may have had a knock. Michael McCann was in midfield.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on August 03, 2009, 06:49:22 PM
Was at the mglass cargin game and portglenone creggan

Moneyglass would get beat in the junior championship, they were the worst team i think i have ever seen playing senior championship.  Think the score was 3.09 to a point after 20 mins.  Eoin o neill was played at full forward and was on fire setting up 2 goals and scoring about 4/5 points.  Tomas mc cann scored a great goal late on.  Best for cargin Kobo, best for mglass the referee

Portglenone creggan wasnt too bad a game, very strong wind and creggan should have been 6 or 7 points up at H/T, second half was good and tight with big mc carry winning everything in the middle.  Portglenone missed 2 decent goal chances.  Creggan should have levelled it up with seconds to go but missed a few chances.  Ref was truely buck mad, at a stage when there was a bit of wrecking around midfield he wouldnt sort it out and waved the kick out on.  Best for creggan Dermot mc cann best for portglenone Tony convery
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 03, 2009, 07:09:34 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on August 03, 2009, 06:49:22 PM
Was at the mglass cargin game and portglenone creggan

Moneyglass would get beat in the junior championship, they were the worst team i think i have ever seen playing senior championship.  Think the score was 3.09 to a point after 20 mins.  Eoin o neill was played at full forward and was on fire setting up 2 goals and scoring about 4/5 points.  Tomas mc cann scored a great goal late on.  Best for cargin Kobo, best for mglass the referee

Portglenone creggan wasnt too bad a game, very strong wind and creggan should have been 6 or 7 points up at H/T, second half was good and tight with big mc carry winning everything in the middle.  Portglenone missed 2 decent goal chances.  Creggan should have levelled it up with seconds to go but missed a few chances.  Ref was truely buck mad, at a stage when there was a bit of wrecking around midfield he wouldnt sort it out and waved the kick out on.  Best for creggan Dermot mc cann best for portglenone Tony convery

Again ? He has been their most consistent player for the best part of 10 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 03, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
How are they in the top half of Division One then hoof hearted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 03, 2009, 10:11:07 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 03, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
How are they in the top half of Division One then hoof hearted?

whats that got to do with it ? As hardstation says i didnt say he is their only player, they have several good players, but tony rarely has a bad game. Yes men like Paddy Carey, Owen Doc and Marty McCarry on their day are good players too, it's just that Tony has been very consistant. It,s only my opinion though, no doubt others will disagree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 04, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 03, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
How are they in the top half of Division One then hoof hearted?

I thought he was talking about how are Moneyglass in the top half of Division 1? (after the abuse they took for being the worst team to play in the senior championship by pebble dasher).
Why are moneyglass in the senior championship anyway? Did Ballymena not win it last year (or have I missed a year).
Moneyglass are level on points with Portglenone and must be going rightly in the league beating St Brigids, Rasharkin, Glenavy comfortably enough.
Cargin will be very very hard to stop this year...I think a bit of naivity against St Galls last year tied with a bit of experience from St Galls got them through.

Portglenone v Cargin final methinks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 04, 2009, 01:21:13 PM


Quarter-Finals
Portglenone  v
All Saints
v
St. Brigids  v
Dunloy
-------------------------------
St. Johns  v
St. Galls
v
Erins Own Cargin  v
Gort Na Mona

when/where are these on ?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 04, 2009, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 04, 2009, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 03, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
How are they in the top half of Division One then hoof hearted?

I thought he was talking about how are Moneyglass in the top half of Division 1? (after the abuse they took for being the worst team to play in the senior championship by pebble dasher).
Why are moneyglass in the senior championship anyway? Did Ballymena not win it last year (or have I missed a year).
Yes, Moneyglass choked in the Intermediate final last year (...again - didn't St Brigid's come from behind as well in the final 2 or 3 years ago to beat them?). I guess, they have senior amibtions and (rightly) reckoned that they should be in the senior championship being in Div 1. Right sentiment, it is just a shame they met a rampant Cargin in the first round and this result won't do them any good at all. Relatively speaking, Glenavy didn't do much better by getting tanked by bottom-of-the-2nd-division Tir na Nog in the Intermediate!

QuoteMoneyglass are level on points with Portglenone and must be going rightly in the league beating St Brigids, Rasharkin, Glenavy comfortably enough.
And they beat St Paul's. The state of Antrim football is at an all time low surely? Ironic given the success of the County side. Rasharkin, St Paul's, and St John's are a shadow of their former selves and are decaying. Moneyglass and Glenavy - the great white hopes from Div 2 - offer very little more. Glenavy will be relegated and the other four will fight it out for the other spot. Probably Rasharkin or maybe St Paul's if they don't get their act together soon. Creggan are (still  ::)) rebuilding and Portglenone have still enough experience and some class to hold their own ...for now. St Brigid's could be a force for the future but only time will tell.

QuoteCargin will be very very hard to stop this year...I think a bit of naivity against St Galls last year tied with a bit of experience from St Galls got them through.
My money is on Cargin.

QuotePortglenone v Cargin final methinks
Portglenone might well have the experience to overcome St Brigid's talent so you might be right. I'm going for St Brigid's v Cargin though. Not that it matters. St Gall's v Cargin is the final in all but name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2009, 02:04:29 PM
The club standard has got very poor alright.

Look at those quarter finals - 4 stone wall winners if ever there were.

Portglenone were awful the last final they were in. Relistically there's a massive gap from 2nd best team on down. There's only really about 5 "senior" sides at the minute in antrim. (st brigids, portgleone, creggan, cargin and st galls). The rest seem to have got rubbish.

Like someone said strange the county team did better this year given club football has been in much better states...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on August 04, 2009, 07:19:09 PM
The standard of division 1 football is very poor.  Would say there is a top two, then 3 quite even team, creggan ports and st bridgets and then the other 5 or so would be division 2 standard.  A division 1A league simply wouldnt work however a 15 team division 2 would be very very competitive.  Would love to see ahoghill getting promotion but they have a long way to go yet.

When are the quarter finals of SFC fixtured for?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bud Wiser on August 06, 2009, 12:34:46 PM
Help Bud.  My brothers lad went up there to Antrim to live and he plays for a club called Galls or Comgalls, Chomgalls.  Is it all the same club or are there two different clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on August 06, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
St Galls are a club in Belfast.
St Comgalls is the club in Antrim town. - http://www.stcomgallsgaa.com
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bud Wiser on August 06, 2009, 12:40:02 PM
That resolves the issue so. Thanks.

Great website too, thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 06, 2009, 05:53:15 PM
Any suspensions arise from the Paddy Cunningham incident? I see it hasn't made the same impact as the incident in Derry anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 06, 2009, 06:46:48 PM
Lad got 6 months for the Cunningham incident.

In regard to the other conversation, how can the state of Antrim football be at a low? Don't talk rubbish. Yes, there are definitely favourites for the Championship games, but how you figure that reflects the state of our football is beyond me. Also, how would Moneyglass be Division 2 when they are 5th in Division one, having beaten some of the teams mentioned?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2009, 08:47:14 PM
Samba our two top clubs are excellent but the rest are far and away behind them.

No one said antrim football was in a poor state - antrim club football however.

Remember that from the antrim team which started the three ulster games 9 were from cargin or st galls. That's a big haul of players. Next in line to get on was Niblock who was also st galls too.

Below those top 5 a lot of club teams would find it hard in, for example, the ulster intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on August 10, 2009, 02:35:27 PM
Intommygunn

You will find that there are 10 from each team - Colin Brady, Andy McClean, Kevin O'Boyle, Tony Scullion, Justin Crozier, Aodhan Gallagher, Michael McCann, Terry O'Neill, Tomas McCann and Sean Burke.

Kieran Close and Kevin Niblock then also started against Kerry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2009, 11:05:43 PM
Well Creggan are improing so that will help.

Portglenone are living off the back of the stinsons sides of the late 90s who will be reaching the end soon. Only Gerard McAleese, Carey and McKeever who's going anyway appear to be coming through.

I dunno what has happened st johns. They had a few good u21 teams but seem to have disappeared. St Pauls seem to have gone to dogs also.

Rasharkin always produce great talent at underage but can never seem to bring it through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SERVASPORT on August 11, 2009, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2009, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 11, 2009, 11:40:40 AM
not too long ago in a hurling match he was responsible for breaking a player from our clubs 6 teeth in a stinking challenge.
Paddy Davison? Wasn't a stinking challenge at all. He pulled on the ball and caught Paddy in the mouth.
Absolute rubbish mate, it was a dirty strike. How anyone can justify that incident is beyond me, I sat with Paddy Davison all night in the hospital and I was approached by a senior member of Lamh Dhearg at the time (he could have even been their chairman) and he too was disgusted with Paddy Cunningham's actions and he offered Paddy Davison his apologies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 12, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 11, 2009, 11:40:40 AM
The Paddy Cunningham incident v Sarsfields was dealt with wrongly by the media and by posters.  Although wrong and should never have happened, it wasn't what people were making out - it wasn't a punch from 50 yards, he wasnt a martial artist or any other of that shit. 

Paddys dead on but he's also no angel himself, not too long ago in a hurling match he was responsible for breaking a player from our clubs 6 teeth in a stinking challenge.  He also loves to do a bit of talking on the pitch.  For Antrim he was brilliant but we cannot go hard on a particular player because a particular player was hurt.  Rules are there for everyone.

Uh?  ??? You normally make a lot of sense Hatchetfield but you've lost me here! How about going hard on a particular player because another particular player got his cheekbone smashed as the result of a deliberate strike? (regardless of who the particular victim is or regardless of what he did or didn't do in a particular (minor?) hurling match a few years ago). Or are you seriously suggesting that there was a bit of "just desserts" in PC's serious injury? Or that PC was culpable in some way? Maybe he ran recklessly (backwards) into the guy's fist???  ::)

As I said before on the James Conway thread - if it happened to me I would take the thug to court. There should be zero tolerence to any sort of thuggery in the GAA. The perpetrator should have got (at least) 48 weeks like Conway did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 12, 2009, 12:17:07 PM
we've thugs in every team. cheered on by numbskulls in the stands or side of pitch. there's not a city club which does not have a 'hatchet' type player who yarns with glee after a match about how he struck his man, dirty Joe style. (except my club ;))

in Belfast the only time you'll see a game of football without the handbags will be tonight when st brides take on St Galls. clean hard football throughout.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 12, 2009, 02:51:57 PM
Anyone got any wind of when next weekend's football championship games are?

Bit of a joke that ten days before clubs aren't aware of day, time and venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 12, 2009, 10:00:29 PM
St. Pauls  0-10 0-10 Creggan Kickhams  St. Pauls   
St. Galls  2-14 0-3 St. Brigids  St. Galls   
Rasharkin  0-13 2-12 Portglenone  Rasharkin


Brigids must have had their ladies team playing tonight. we'd boys missing that match tonight also!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 13, 2009, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 12, 2009, 10:00:29 PM
St. Pauls  0-10 0-10 Creggan Kickhams  St. Pauls   
St. Galls  2-14 0-3 St. Brigids  St. Galls   
Rasharkin  0-13 2-12 Portglenone  Rasharkin


Brigids must have had their ladies team playing tonight. we'd boys missing that match tonight also!!

That's some drubbing a week before championship! Who showed well for St Galls? The bold Kevin was talking the other week about making a comeback, did he figure?

Any of the Brigid's ladies guys show any class or ability at all?

Dunloy will be laughing...St John's will be, er, nervous  :D :D
Title: Bredagh Talks Sam & Liam Sept 3rd @8.30pm Wellington Park Hotel
Post by: bredaghgael on August 13, 2009, 01:04:34 AM
  Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Other guests will be confirmed closer to the event
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 17, 2009, 06:11:39 PM
thought i'd post something on here before it fell of the main page!!!!

Championship this weekend, any surprises in store for the big teams?  we play the Johnnies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2009, 10:55:15 PM

All Saints (Portglenone won't win by as much as people think but will win ok)

St Brigids (Dunloy shouldn't be in senior I don't think)

St Galls (I'd expect there to be a bit of dirt in this match)

Cargin (Gorts are just a wee bit below this level)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 21, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
Spreads:

Portglenone v All Saints (+9.5) Bonus

St. Brigid's v Dunloy (+10.5)

St. John's (+10.5) v St. Gall's

Cargin v Gort na Mona (+12.5)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2009, 11:55:04 PM
Cargin by 15 then setting up the big showdown.

Ardoyne beating Aghagallon is a bit of a shock in the intermediate.

Aldergrove ran st endas close. Aldergrove seem to be improving of late.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 09:02:21 AM
bad craic that teams in the senior championship arre getting beat by 15 points!!!

can't even remember being beat by that much in a hurling match by the best team, Cargin are well in gear. should we beat the Jonhnnies tonight then it will be a good semi (final really)

Why have the other teams been so poor these last few years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 23, 2009, 10:10:51 AM
apart from Portglenone, have other teams just said f**k it, we are too far behind Cargin + St Galls there is no point. I know Port's 2 finals against St Galls and semi against Cargin were bad defeats, but they are the only one's who seem to be in with a chance. From reading on here maybe St Bridgids aren't far away either, but the Antrim C'Ship has been like the Munster Football c'ship this decade, and teams shouldn't be get 15 point hammerings in 1/4 finals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 23, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
Sure didn't it happen Donegal and Dublin this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 23, 2009, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2009, 08:28:59 PM
Naomh Gall 1-11
Naomh Eoin 0-06
FT

That sets up a Cargin vs St Galls tie doesn't it ?  any idea when/where that will take place ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2009, 09:23:23 PM
I think it's set for 2 weeks time. Not sure of venues/ times etc yet though. MR reckons Belfast.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:12:12 PM
i'm hearing Creggan, that was the worst game of football i ever seen, 3 johnnies men sent off and could have lost more.

had the Johnnies continued to play the football they played in the first 20 minutes they would have been better for it.

if Cargin were watching they must be rubbing their hands, we were terrible. plenty to work on. though the semi is not till 13th of Sept
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:25:21 PM
corner back for stamping on McGourty (Ciaran) and then Oliver not sure and the other corner back. just a load of bollox really. the hardman of football is dead, the slabbering and slaps is finished.

actually embarrassing, i'm there are some Johnny greats watching that tonight cringing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 23, 2009, 10:29:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:25:21 PM
corner back for stamping on McGourty (Ciaran) and then Oliver not sure and the other corner back. just a load of bollox really. the hardman of football is dead, the slabbering and slaps is finished.

actually embarrassing, i'm there are some Johnny greats watching that tonight cringing

An oxymoron surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
ok they were probably in the pub but they had some crackers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 24, 2009, 10:17:37 AM
i hate the Johnnies now--a bunch of dirty wee bollixes with no football in them at all--why do they even play football--half of them would have been shite at school etc--i dont see why they bother

they just go out to slap people, and they arnt even big men--what enjoyment would you get outta that?

St Paul's are the same now as well --2 clubs who's once well respected senior football teams have turned into jokes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
it was bad, how any team can train all year and then resort to bulling tactics. it's beyond me.

if your not at that standard then sort it out, put in a long term plan, our club wont have this all the time but they are currently working with the young ones and bringing them on. though last nights team did not reflect that, as we still had the usual players, but there has been some minors and under 21 players making a push for the team.

read that Cargin only got going once a man for Gorts was sent off. Hatchefield can ya fill us in with your unbiased report?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 24, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
That Adrian Oliver MR? Don't remember him being close to the worst of the ones I grew up playing against.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 03:14:28 PM
He got the line for running his mouth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 03:20:21 PM
aye he's not a bad lad but when your in a squad where its falling apart, frustration plays a big part. could the Johnnies go down this year? or is Glenavy and someone else more likely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 24, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 03:20:21 PM
aye he's not a bad lad but when your in a squad where its falling apart, frustration plays a big part. could the Johnnies go down this year? or is Glenavy and someone else more likely

I think Glenavy are a shoe in for the drop. The other place will between Rasharkin, St Paul's, or St John's. All depends how they react to their respective championship defeats and how they do against each other ...and what sly moves they pull towards the end of the season  ;)

St John's are (potentially) 5pts ahead in that 3-way race at present. Which says a lot about the present state of Antrim (club) football I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:18:15 PM
St B 0-0
Dunloy 0-1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:18:50 PM
St. B 0-3
Dunloy 0-3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:19:25 PM
St B 0-3
Dunloy 0-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:19:48 PM
Dunloy penalty saved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:21:36 PM
St B 0-4
Dunloy 0-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
St B 0-5
Dunloy 0-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:27:59 PM
St B 0-6
Dunloy 0-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:30:50 PM
St B 0-7
Dunloy 0-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:39:37 PM
St B 0-8
Dunloy 0-5
HT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
St B 0-9
Dunloy 0-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 08:58:37 PM
St B 0-11
Dunloy 0-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 09:00:28 PM
St B 1-11
Dunloy 0-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 09:02:17 PM
St B 1-11
Dunloy 0-6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 09:11:35 PM
St B 2-14
Dunloy 0-7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
2-15 to 0-8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bredaghgael on August 27, 2009, 02:55:41 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LooK_To_ThE_FuTuRE on August 31, 2009, 09:21:12 PM
Is it true PJ O'Hare will manage St. Galls next year??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 02, 2009, 05:21:57 PM
Any date and venue set for the Cargin v St Gall's semi final? Would it be in Casement as a big crowd expected?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 02, 2009, 05:57:52 PM
Semi finals are on the week ending 13th September, the st galls cargin game should be in casement on the 13th, more than likely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2009, 06:22:05 PM
St. Galls v Erins Own Cargin   @ Casement Park   Sat 12/09/2009   18:00         
Portglenone v St. Brigids   @ Creggan Kickhams   Sun 13/09/2009   19:45
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 02, 2009, 06:54:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2009, 06:22:05 PM
St. Galls v Erins Own Cargin   @ Casement Park   Sat 12/09/2009   18:00         
Portglenone v St. Brigids   @ Creggan Kickhams   Sun 13/09/2009   19:45

surprised our game is at Casement. thought for sure they'd have played it up the country. gives our lads a bit of an advantage though i'd say the game is 50/50. there is only a kick of a ball between them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2009, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2009, 06:22:05 PM
St. Galls v Erins Own Cargin   @ Casement Park   Sat 12/09/2009   18:00         
Portglenone v St. Brigids   @ Creggan Kickhams   Sun 13/09/2009   19:45

??? Something not right there. There are no lights at Creggan!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2009, 10:06:10 AM
MR you'd have to be favourites on past form...

Individually I think Cargin maybe have better players. It's the team factor that may be their undoing. You guys play a "system" and I'm not sure I've ever seen Cargin do that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2009, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 03, 2009, 09:49:48 AM
I think there is actually!

There's not. No lights apart from the 3G pitch which is a bit small for championship  ;)

Date+times probably in the wrong place. I've heard St Gall's v Cargin @ Casement Sun 13th and Portglenone v St Brigid's @ Creggan Sat 12th?

But that would require the leap of faith that the Antrim website moderator and/or the CCC are incompetent  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2009, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 03, 2009, 10:06:10 AM
MR you'd have to be favourites on past form...

Individually I think Cargin maybe have better players. It's the team factor that may be their undoing. You guys play a "system" and I'm not sure I've ever seen Cargin do that.

Has to be St Gall's all the way for me ...unless Cargin overcome/catch them on the day with greater hunger and desire.

Cargiin have 7 or 8 "great" players. St Gall's have at least a dozen. Man for man, I can't think of a Cargin player that couldn't be matched (in contribution, if not style) by a St Gall's player. Maybe Michael McCann or Ciaran Close on their day but there wouldn't be much in it. There are maybe 4 or 5 Cargin players that could be matched by St Gall's subs.

All of which would matter less if Cargin had a system of play. They are also leaking goals of late which is fatal against good teams. This and their (lack of) discipline (football and otherwise) will cost them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2009, 01:50:47 PM
Interesting league results from the semi-finallists last night...

St Gall's "only" beating St Pauls's by 4. St John's beating St Brigid's by 2 and Portglenone beating Cargin by 4!

Pre-championship dips? (apart from Portglenone obviously). Should they not be flying 10 days before championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 04:07:21 PM
the weather last night played a massive part in all the games. St Pauls scored a goal in our game late on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2009, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 04:07:21 PM
the weather last night played a massive part in all the games. St Pauls scored a goal in our game late on.

Fair enough. That does put a different perspective on it. Bad weather can be a great leveller. I also just heard that St John's bundled a goal in in injury time but none of the spectators could see clearly what happened because it was too dark!

Here's hoping for clear skies and a firm sod for the championship weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 03, 2009, 10:50:59 PM
Anyone heard any info of an apparant incident at the St Johns v Glenavy game a while bacl?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on September 03, 2009, 10:50:59 PM
Anyone heard any info of an apparant incident at the St Johns v Glenavy game a while bacl?

had it anything to do with placing your.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 04, 2009, 05:02:56 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2009, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 03, 2009, 09:49:48 AM
I think there is actually!

There's not. No lights apart from the 3G pitch which is a bit small for championship  ;)

Date+times probably in the wrong place. I've heard St Gall's v Cargin @ Casement Sun 13th and Portglenone v St Brigid's @ Creggan Sat 12th?

But that would require the leap of faith that the Antrim website moderator and/or the CCC are incompetent  :o

The Antrim site has been updated...

Championship Dates / Venues

Friday 11th Sept
JFC: St Teresas V Ballycastle 7.30pm @ Casement Park

Saturday 12th   Sept
IFC:Ahoghill V Ardoyne 4.30pm @ Creggan
SFC: Portglenone v St Brigids 6.00pm @ Creggan
JFC: Eire Og V Davitts 6.00pm @ St Pauls

Sunday 13th Sept
IFC: Tir Na Nog v St Endas 1.00pm @ Glenavy
SHC: Cushendall V Loughgiel 3.00pm @ Ballycastle
SFC: Cargin V St Galls 8.00pm @ Casement Park

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2009, 01:11:55 PM
Well done to Creggan. That's two minors in a row isn't it? Also minor and u21 in one year.

Looks good for the future for them. Hopefully they can challenge the "big two" in a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 05:52:21 PM
Would there be odds available on St John's beating St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2009, 07:46:16 PM
I thought this was the final??

Maybe I was wrong?

(Even if I was it still doesn't answer your question hatchetfield... I noticed on that antrim site guestbook some sarsfields person complaining about some dispute with them and st johns too.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 06, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
Definitely not the final - it was just the replay of the disputed first-round game they played, when Creggan were told they didn't have to play extra time and so walked off the field.  St. John's appealed this as the rules say all games should have gone to extra time, but with the ref in this case saying the game was over (and a couple of other draws that night not going to extra time) eventually the DRA ruled in favour of Creggan getting back in.

Meanwhile St. John's went on to beat Sarsfields in the 1/4-final and were to meet Cargin in the semi - now it looks like Creggan are back in and having beaten St. John's, will play cargin in the semi-final.  Well that's the only sense i can make out of it anyhow.

Gorts await the winners from this side of the draw in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2009, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 05, 2009, 05:52:21 PM
Would there be odds available on St John's beating St Galls?

Why did no one get back to me yiz horrble bastards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2009, 06:46:10 PM
What are st johns playing st galls in?

do you mean cargin??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2009, 07:17:01 PM
 Johns bate them the day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2009, 08:06:38 PM
Were you looking odds on that league match??

Had you got some inside info??

St Johns have won a lot of games you wouldn't expect them too in the last few weeks. Any time st johns are in relegation bother everyone seems to come out of the woodwork to help them out and they get out of it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2009, 08:15:52 PM
Aye, would you have been able to get odds on a league game?

With the SFC game in a week or so and them playing in the 7s hurling yesterday, I thought it'd be a good time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2009, 08:20:50 PM
Dunno where you'd get odds O'Neill.

On the subject of league form st brigids seem to be on a long run of defeats. Does Brolly still play? Did I see him showing of a cast of sorts on the sunday game - maybe that would explain it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2009, 08:24:31 PM
He said in his column on Friday that he tripped over a small Tyrone man a while ago and broke his leg. He's doing thon aqua running so he says so he is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Signum Fidei on September 09, 2009, 08:59:53 AM
cargin by 2 points on sunday

come on the cargin yyyyyyyyooooooo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronArmy on September 09, 2009, 01:26:00 PM
The Galls machine to come out on top by 2+ on Sunday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 09, 2009, 08:16:44 PM
can't see our lads losing on Sunday night. we've a seriously big panel of lads down at training lately.

tactically we need to get it right against Cargin and then its down to if Cargin can can exploit any weaknesses we have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 09, 2009, 10:14:59 PM
Are you not at Windsor?

Portglenone
Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronArmy on September 10, 2009, 05:13:57 PM
Any injury reports for either team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on September 10, 2009, 07:15:56 PM

Paddypower odds

Cargin  11/8
St Galls 8/11

Portglenone   4/6
St Brigids       6/4

Might stick a few pound on cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2009, 10:44:17 PM
Good odds for Cargin. I hear Karl Stewart is sweating.

Cargin 0-14 St Gall's 0-11. One of the McGourtys sent off on 71 mins.

Who's the ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2009, 11:40:09 PM
St Brigids (bonus)

Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on September 11, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
Wish the county board had put on a double header on sunday afternoon and it might have got a half crowd at a game for once. 

Could anyone tell me the last time st galls played a championship game in the south west or anywhere else than casement for that matter?

Predictions
Portglenone 1.10 St bridgets 0.11
Cargin 2.09 st galls 0.12

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2009, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on September 11, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
Wish the county board had put on a double header on sunday afternoon and it might have got a half crowd at a game for once. 

Could anyone tell me the last time st galls played a championship game in the south west or anywhere else than casement for that matter?

Predictions
Portglenone 1.10 St bridgets 0.11
Cargin 2.09 st galls 0.12

Rasharkin 89 final against Cargin won the match 5 points to Cargins 4.

then there has been loads of early round games but the semi finals have always been at Casement.

the year of the back door system Cargin beat us at some SW venue but we duffed them in the final :o

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on September 11, 2009, 05:12:18 PM
MR i cant believe my eyes!! Kevin MC Gourty now a FF man!!!! What fck is going on. Hes a rocket of the 1st degree, shows Politics and the GAA its the future lads, casement next?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on September 11, 2009, 05:14:28 PM
WBFFS Ref where r u ? have you been banished by the secret mods? Or r u on the county website now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 12, 2009, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 11, 2009, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on September 11, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
Wish the county board had put on a double header on sunday afternoon and it might have got a half crowd at a game for once. 

Could anyone tell me the last time st galls played a championship game in the south west or anywhere else than casement for that matter?

Predictions
Portglenone 1.10 St bridgets 0.11
Cargin 2.09 st galls 0.12

Rasharkin 89 final against Cargin won the match 5 points to Cargins 4.

then there has been loads of early round games but the semi finals have always been at Casement.

the year of the back door system Cargin beat us at some SW venue but we duffed them in the final :o

Galls beat Creggan in the semi final in 2001 in Rasharkin --the year after they were dumped out in the first round away to Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on September 12, 2009, 06:46:55 PM
St Brigids 4 points up at half time....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on September 12, 2009, 07:14:10 PM
15 mins to go... St brigids lead by 3 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 12, 2009, 07:27:33 PM
thought the 6/4 the bookies were giving st brigids was too generous
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 12, 2009, 07:30:12 PM
not really, it finished a draw !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2009, 12:06:28 PM
Is that st Gallls game today ???? at casement???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2009, 12:24:02 PM
tonight at 8 under the lights
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on September 13, 2009, 04:11:57 PM
Portglenone-St brigids replay Wednesday night Casement Park...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
ten minute delay due to the crowds waiting to get into Casement tonight for the Cargin Galls game. i'm not going tonight as i'm stuck in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caitlin on September 13, 2009, 08:17:30 PM
As a break from the tension of the second semi-final, csan someone tell me who is the minor final ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2009, 08:18:35 PM
2-2 to 0-1 for the milltown men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 13, 2009, 08:22:07 PM
Where you getting the updates at?

Any commentory online?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2009, 08:24:18 PM
none, just club men informing me, no online comm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2009, 10:14:39 PM
Well that was a farce of a game... Game over after ten minutes really.

Cargin, Kieran Close aside, were pretty poor. Full back exposed badly a few times for goals early on and by the time switches were made it was too late. There was only 5 or 6 in it at the end but st galls played within themselves second half.

St Galls are a slick outfit. I would say they do a lot of cynical fouling though. McLean, Burke and Kevin McGourty should have been booked. Burke seemed to be under orders to "spoil" Mick McCann. In saying that Tony Scullion looked in the mood to decapitate someone in the second half.

Sean Kelly is still the best defender (probably footballer) in the county and Rory Gallagher is some addition.

The final is going to be a big anti-climax but mark Sean Kelly and that would be a start. Every time I see st galls he looks like he's a free man but that's just because he's so good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on September 13, 2009, 11:05:32 PM
6 points in this game at the end with St Galls winning 3-8 to 0-11  but that's only because St Galls took the foot off the pedal during the 2nd half.   A number of occasions during the second half they started backward passing just for the sake of keeping possession.

St Galls look very strong in every department.  Feels like a long time since i've seen Sean Kelly play ball but he looked impressive. 

Cargin presented them with quite a lot of space and a lot of other teams wouldn't be so generous.  In saying that St Galls made space for themselves, with a lot of running off the ball and clever diagonal balls.

Kevin Mc Gourty didn't look fit,  when he is fit you would imagine St Galls would be very hard to stop.

I love St Galls fans and there Windsor Park chants, worth the £8 admission fee alone !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2009, 11:24:19 PM
That's a while since I've seen Galls play and they showed in fits and spurts that they are potential Ulster champions. I thought Kevin McGourty was the best player on the field followed closely by Sean Kelly. McGourty wasn't match fit in terms of lasting the whole game and was blowing rightly late on, though still managed the last point I think. His vision was tremendous and the move that led to the foot-block penalty was stupendous, involving another one of those curled passes McGourty was spraying all game, collected by a sliding Conor McGourty and fed to Aodhan Gallagher I think. It was a mirror image of the move that led to the goal Cavanagh scored against Antrim. Kevin was one of those boys I grouped with Enda Muldoon - I'd yet to see their reputation justified in the flesh. After today, you can see what Kevin is capable of when he's up to speed.

St Gall's also have that telepathy you associate with successful teams who've been together for 5-6 years. For the first 30 mins they humiliated Cargin in every sector. The Gallagher-McGourty FF line was destroying Cargin - you'd have thought it was Donaghy/Walsh given their aerial superiority. Only when they started roughing McGourty up a bit did they start to gain a bit of a foothold.

To Cargin's credit they upped it from the throw-in in the second half but some of their wides were atrocious. It could've been a lot closer. Close was causing all manner of problems late on. Would liked to have seen Tomas on the ball more as he was cutting through them when he managed to build up a head of steam.

All-in-all, if St Gall's can keep their heads about them, Ulster is there for the taking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 14, 2009, 10:30:58 AM
Strange game. Big crowd fleeced for £8 for 15 minutes of football.

Men against boys. Cargin will win nothing until thon boxing club they have next door to their club is closed. They might be able to close out the odd tight league match in Toome with those bankrupt tactics (how many league titles have they won?) but it won't work in championship against an experienced team like St Gall's and with all those extra official eyes. And what is it with Cargin goalkeepers? I know you need to be certified to be a goalkeeper but Cargin take it to new heights. He should have walked twice. He walked out 14m to slap Rory Gallagher in full view of the umpires just after Gallagher and M McCann were booked (I think Gallagher was booked for displaying his hairy chest provocatively when his shirt was ripped down the middle) in an obvious attempt to goad Gallagher into retaliation and a second yellow. He (the mad goalkeeper) then slapped Burke on the back of the head in full view of the stand in the "tunnel" going off at half-time.

I don't know who started it (in particular, I mean, it was certainly Cargin), but the ruccous at half-time was nasty and dangerous. Thank goodness for the wire fencing and some effective Casement Park stewarding or there would have been some rabid Cargin supporters in the middle of it too. When I say experienced, St Gall's - or perhaps it was their inexperienced management - showed some naivite in choosing to go down the tunnel at half-time at the same time as a Cargin team they had just humiliated for 30 minutes  ::) I couldn't help but laugh at a Portglenone supporter who suggested more in hope than in seriousness that both teams should be thrown out of the championship  :D

The refereeing was soft. He was careful not to give second yellows eventhough several were merited. He was a bit star struck too. Patting the county men on the back and being all "matey" when he penalised them and even after booking them! It wasn't a penalty for me. From where I was, the ball was blocked by a thigh, close in, but not close enough to be blocking the actual kick (which is what the foot-block offence is in place to protect against). Still, didn't affect the outcome but did finish the game as a contest. Well that and CJ's two moments of brilliance in bagging a goal himself and knocking one down for Gallagher out of nothing. Unfortunately for CJ, Liam Bradley only took his seat after that and CJ did very little else apart from succumbing to a slap and headbutt or two (did I miss a "two headbutt" rule being introduced?).

Cargin were made to look very ordinary. I thought the Irish News report did Ciaran Close a disservice (he was Cargin's best man by far and gave Colin Brady a roasting) and flattered Crozier and Tony Scullion, in particular. Scullion was back to his best, not so much "greyhound pup let loose in the park" as "rabid rottweiller let loose in the park" impression. Sean Kelly was sublime.

There were very few clean catches in the middle of the field. Not because of bunching, but because time and again players misjudged their running jumps and the balls went over their fingertips. Was that down to the lights?

I disagree with O'Neill on Kevin McGourty. I thought he looked a shadow of his former self and not just on fitness. Maybe I missed some of the good things he did? I also disagree on their Ulster Championship prospects. They will win Antrim at a canter (God help Portglenone or St Brigid's), but I think they are Tyrone in disguise. They haven't, and won't be, tested until it is too late? Time well tell on both counts, I guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2009, 11:14:37 AM
I'd agree with you Over The Posts. McGourty(Kevin) did some good things in patches but looked very unfit and sluggish. In my view Sean Kelly was the best player on view probably followed by Close.

In the second half the St Galls FF line wouldn't have had much of a chance though as the half forward line was so deep they would have had to go far too far out to win their own ball.

If you look at it every St Galls player knows exactly what job they have to do when they go out on the field. They're well drilled in that regard. You most certainly could not say the same about Cargin. It would be interesting to see St Galls in a tighter match to see if they have the ability to adapt the way they play.

Cargin kept their discipline reasonably well considering. After half time I thought the second half was going to be a boxing match but thankfully it didn't materialise. I didn't realise what the goalie was up to but he has a bit of form.

The referee was utterly abysmal. You can't footblock a boy when the ball hits your foot a good bit after it's been kicked. Cargin no 2 did headbutt like you say and got a yellow. McLean fouled at least 5 times in that game and not even ticked. Burke likewise and probably Kevin McGourty similar. Also Cargin should have had a penalty at the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on September 14, 2009, 11:33:28 AM
The galls management/players actually did try to let cargin in before them at ht, and a number of them were calling rory back as he went to run on in. Personally, I think he knew what he was at. That of course is no excuse for cargin starting the brawl.

Thought scullion needs to cop himself on a bit - hes a good player, but I dont think i saw him actually go for the ball in the second half, he was just trying to wreck the men, could have picked up a few bookings.

As regards mcgourty, there were certainly still glimpses, but no way was he a contender for motm. Overtheposts, I know what you mean, but I would attribute most of his sloppy play later in the game to a lack of match fitness, i'd say if he was back to full fitness we'd find he hasn't lost any of his talent. Sean kelly motm for me.

With regard to the game as a whole, Galls won the game in 15 min, then stopped playing. I always had the sense that if necessary they could flood up the field and score another goal if the wanted. Also, imo the penalty definitely was a footblock, I didnt see any distance between the kicker and the blocker, and it seemed to me that it hit him below the knee.

very impressed with Galls, think ulster could certainly be there for them, mebbe more. Hoping that I'll get to see them play a whole game at some stage this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clawaddy on September 14, 2009, 12:22:53 PM
Attended the game last night, very enjoyable first quarter particularly CJ's brilliant touches.  As an outsider(Derry man) I have a couple of complaints about the game presentation.  There were no programmes which people like me who dont recognise players need.  There were no announcements of Ntional Anthem, subs, time added etc.  For the biggest club game of the year in Antrim the presentation left a lot to be desired
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 17, 2009, 12:14:22 AM
Senior Football Championship
Portglenone 1-9 v 0-11 St. Brigids

Minor Football Championship
Erins Own Cargin 1-7 v 2-10 Creggan Kickhams

Portglenone v St. Galls final for the third time in recent years - can Portglenone do any better this time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 17, 2009, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: aontroim on September 17, 2009, 12:14:22 AM
Senior Football Championship
Portglenone 1-9 v 0-11 St. Brigids

Minor Football Championship
Erins Own Cargin 1-7 v 2-10 Creggan Kickhams

Portglenone v St. Galls final for the third time in recent years - can Portglenone do any better this time?

on last nights performance they have a very poor chance,but it was good to see a few glimpses of brilliance from Kevin Madden after a couple of years out,although don't think he should be playing at all considering his health situation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
I didn't expect Madden to be back playing at all. Quite surprised but maybe his health has improved.

Fair play to Portglenone. The final is a big mountain to climb for them though. I think it's only their second final... I see the final is stand alone. I think it would be better as a double header like previous years. A lot of people will think Portglenone have no chance...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 17, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
3rd final - 05, 07 and 09

A pity they are playing St. Galls again, somebody different would have been nice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on September 17, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
Having been at both the drawn game and reply st bridgets will be kicking themselves today.  If they had one descent forward who could take half a score they would have beat portglenone out the gate.  The ginger corner forward was one on one with brian mc cann and only had to put it in when he tried to act the lad and round the keeper.  The score was 10 to 1.05 for stbridgets and would have left portglenone with even fewer ideas with around 10 minutes left.

Was great to see kevin madden playing again and tormenting defences.

On the final portglenone simply do not have any fire power capable of troubling the two best defenders in the county mc lean and brady. 

One final moan is i would like to have seen a double header because casement is empty enough on county final day with out splitting the attendence even more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 17, 2009, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 17, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
3rd final - 05, 07 and 09

A pity they are playing St. Galls again, somebody different would have been nice.

An interesting turn of phrase.

Quote from: pebble-dasher on September 17, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
Was great to see kevin madden playing again and tormenting defences.

Yes, but what was the former inter-county free-taker, current mediocre inter-county trainer and sender of cranky texts to my work colleagues about what I post here wearing on his head?

Is there a medical reason for it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Why is that SS2, because i used to play for them ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 18, 2009, 10:29:45 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Why is that SS2, because i used to play for them ?

That is debatable Hoof! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 18, 2009, 10:36:48 AM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 18, 2009, 10:29:45 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Why is that SS2, because i used to play for them ?

That is debatable Hoof! ;D

Hoof was useful for an oul goal or two come championship!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 18, 2009, 10:48:36 AM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on September 17, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
Having been at both the drawn game and reply st bridgets will be kicking themselves today.  If they had one descent forward who could take half a score they would have beat portglenone out the gate.  The ginger corner forward was one on one with brian mc cann and only had to put it in when he tried to act the lad and round the keeper.  The score was 10 to 1.05 for stbridgets and would have left portglenone with even fewer ideas with around 10 minutes left.

Was great to see kevin madden playing again and tormenting defences.

On the final portglenone simply do not have any fire power capable of troubling the two best defenders in the county mc lean and brady. 

One final moan is i would like to have seen a double header because casement is empty enough on county final day with out splitting the attendence even more.


Have to agree there pebble for a man who hasn't played for two years he was very impressive,pity cause a fit Madden would have been some asset to the county last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2009, 10:58:36 AM
thanks big lad, ignore that other tool, wouldn't know the difference between a goal and his hole. Ask Delargy is it too late in the season for me to start training  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on September 18, 2009, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2009, 10:58:36 AM
thanks big lad, ignore that other tool, wouldn't know the difference between a goal and his hole. Ask Delargy is it too late in the season for me to start training  :D

to late in the century more like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 18, 2009, 01:28:13 PM
when Madden plays in the final and takes a big hit from Andy McLean or Colin Brady, will he be OK? is he going against medical advice to play?

who lost out inthe team for him to come back in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on September 18, 2009, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 18, 2009, 01:28:13 PM
when Madden plays in the final and takes a big hit from Andy McLean or Colin Brady, will he be OK? is he going against medical advice to play?

who lost out inthe team for him to come back in?

I think the other corner forward that played against creggan and ballymena got injured. 

What was that thing on his head, hope it doesnt start a trend or john mc keever will make a fortune in elite sports!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 19, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
Kevin Madden must have had an improvement in his health to start playing again. I remember a programme on last year about heart surgeons in Belfast, and he was on it getting a replacement valve in his heart. Maybe this has seen an improvement in his health, which has prompted him to start playing again. Good to see him back though. Would have been a great asset to Antrim this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2009, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 19, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
Kevin Madden must have had an improvement in his health to start playing again. I remember a programme on last year about heart surgeons in Belfast, and he was on it getting a replacement valve in his heart. Maybe this has seen an improvement in his health, which has prompted him to start playing again. Good to see him back though. Would have been a great asset to Antrim this year.

Some difference in club football and IC, who would he have replaced this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 19, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Not saying this year he would have made the team. If he hadn't had the health problems which stopped him playing football, he most certaintly would have been a great asset to Antrim, especially this year with their breakthrough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 21, 2009, 08:49:08 AM
But he chose to team up with mediocre manager Damien Cassidy, rather than Baker Bradley (who he had worked with at club level the previous year).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2009, 11:46:54 PM
Fcuk me, i'd soon wipe the smirk off SS2's gub by tramping in with just the one prediction and claiming the goods.

Who's deciding on MOTM though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 24, 2009, 08:39:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2009, 11:13:25 PM
Spreads:

St. Gall's v Portglenone (+6.5)

Man of the match - 10 points

No table yet as I'm still wondering what to do with the PGO - St. Bridget's spread. Wasn't about to have a spread for the replay.

Fcuk it - sticking with the 1st game.

Why is it -10 for Man of the Match? Surely that will put people off entering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 24, 2009, 10:50:03 AM
St. Gall's

MOTM: 'Bertie' McGourty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2009, 10:26:34 PM
St Galls

MOTM Sean Kelly

I see Mick McCann got an all star noimation. Well done to him - great to see an antrim man in there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 24, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
this match will be closer than most people on here think, while our lads are at full strength and difficult for the manager to pick, he can only pick 15. Portglenone will have their best 15 ready to win the match.

we didn't hammer them the last time and wont this time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
St Galls

Niblock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 25, 2009, 11:17:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2009, 10:26:34 PM
St Galls

MOTM Sean Kelly

I see Mick McCann got an all star noimation. Well done to him - great to see an antrim man in there.

Yes well done to Mick McCann...he had a great year.  Surprised James Loughrey didn't feature.  I know Andy McCallin won an All Star in 1971 and I think Sean McGreevy was nominated in 2000 but have there been many other Antrim football nominations over the years??  Oh and good luck to the Ladies on Sunday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2009, 04:01:30 PM
all the best to Frankie, Mhic Easmuint and the rest of my oul team mates tomorrow night. I need an excuse for a session lads !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 04:29:27 PM
well come to milltown row as ya won't get one up in Portglenone :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 25, 2009, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on September 25, 2009, 11:17:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2009, 10:26:34 PM
St Galls

MOTM Sean Kelly

I see Mick McCann got an all star noimation. Well done to him - great to see an antrim man in there.

Yes well done to Mick McCann...he had a great year.  Surprised James Loughrey didn't feature.  I know Andy McCallin won an All Star in 1971 and I think Sean McGreevy was nominated in 2000 but have there been many other Antrim football nominations over the years??  Oh and good luck to the Ladies on Sunday!

Just seen today's Irish News that suggests McCallin, McGreevey and McCann are the only Saffron nominations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: full back on September 25, 2009, 05:27:27 PM
Portglenone

K Madden for MOTM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 05:55:36 PM
Naomh Gall

ciaran McGourty MOTM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2009, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 04:29:27 PM
well come to milltown row as ya won't get one up in Portglenone :o

why, are you having a party by yourself ! sounds like some craic alright !

without doubt, Casements will be underdogs, but there were 2 teams in Celtic Park a fortnight who were underdogs too, and they are now preparing for a final. So i could get that session yet without heading up the M2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 25, 2009, 09:23:57 PM
Port Chluain Eoghain

Rory Gallagher
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2009, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 04:29:27 PM
well come to milltown row as ya won't get one up in Portglenone :o

why, are you having a party by yourself ! sounds like some craic alright !

without doubt, Casements will be underdogs, but there were 2 teams in Celtic Park a fortnight who were underdogs too, and they are now preparing for a final. So i could get that session yet without heading up the M2.

Chill hoof, said aready will be close game, just cant see how Ports will get the required scores. those games in Derry have only served as a reminder that nothing can be taken for granted. 5 point win.

by myself? no, were you tying to be funny? pm me the punch line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on September 25, 2009, 09:23:57 PM
Port Chluain Eoghain

Rory Gallagher
Saffron are you serious? explain your reason why Port Chluain Eoghain will win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 25, 2009, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on September 25, 2009, 09:23:57 PM
Port Chluain Eoghain

Rory Gallagher
Saffron are you serious? explain your reason why Port Chluain Eoghain will win?

St. Gall's will win the match. Portglenone will cover the spread I think. I don't really care either way - just trying to feck up hardstation's rule changes.

And I thought Hoof's line was funny.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
was hearing reports that Portglenone were looking the game called off tonight due to outbreaks of swine flu!!! can anyone confirm this? maybe Hoof can let us know.

if true then that would be tough on them tonight. i'm going for a 6 point win now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
St galls 3-26
Portglenone 0-7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2009, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
St galls 3-26
Portglenone 0-7

Lies. 2-20 to 6 points. St. Galls shot an awful amount of wides as well. Never had to leave about 2nd gear, but absolutely worked their arses off in defence. Gallagher is certainly a quality addition. No disrespect to Portglenone, but there are bigger fish to fry in Ulster and the Galls will need to cut out the wasteful shooting if they're to win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2009, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 26, 2009, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
St galls 3-26
Portglenone 0-7

Lies. 2-20 to 6 points. St. Galls shot an awful amount of wides as well. Never had to leave about 2nd gear, but absolutely worked their arses off in defence. Gallagher is certainly a quality addition. No disrespect to Portglenone, but there are bigger fish to fry in Ulster and the Galls will need to cut out the wasteful shooting if they're to win it.

I always feel the lack of challenge in Antrim stands against them in Ulster. Gonna stick a few quid on them though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2009, 10:06:11 PM
Never bothered Cross. Any word on MOTM? The Cavan-Galls winners would be fairly fancied.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 26, 2009, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 26, 2009, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
St galls 3-26
Portglenone 0-7

Lies. 2-20 to 6 points. St. Galls shot an awful amount of wides as well. Never had to leave about 2nd gear, but absolutely worked their arses off in defence. Gallagher is certainly a quality addition. No disrespect to Portglenone, but there are bigger fish to fry in Ulster and the Galls will need to cut out the wasteful shooting if they're to win it.

just going by a text i got!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
that was a terrible final, ports never turned up.

we never broke sweat and managed to kick as many wides as scores

the Gaels and Galls game should be a goodin, plenty to play for after the last game we played and lost against them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2009, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 26, 2009, 10:06:11 PM
Never bothered Cross. Any word on MOTM? The Cavan-Galls winners would be fairly fancied.

You can't really compare Cross to any other club team in Ulster though, several cuts above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2009, 11:04:27 PM
Cross are a different cattle of fish.  in the second half against us, they did to us what we do to the antrim club teams.


we are glad they are out. no easy games now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2009, 11:09:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 26, 2009, 11:04:27 PM
Cross are a different cattle of fish.  in the second half against us, they did to us what we do to the antrim club teams.


we are glad they are out. no easy games now

Cattle or kettle?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2009, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 26, 2009, 11:04:27 PM
Cross are a different cattle of fish. 

Tremendous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2009, 11:25:40 PM
i'll go with kettle ;D

must do better with my spelling :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2009, 11:51:44 PM
Niblock got MOTM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 27, 2009, 12:04:09 AM
St. Gall's were devastating without really having to play too much - it was like they were playing sevens football with a team of 15.  Not sure who got MOTM but my choice would have been Kieran McGourty - he kicked some good scores tonight off both feet.  Kevin was very effective in his role at midfield spoiling kickouts and mopping up a lot of breaking ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: laoisgaa on September 27, 2009, 12:07:00 AM
O'Neill is a lier - no Man of the Match was picked!! Niblock was out of the game for a fair bit as was CJ - I'd go for Mr Fermanagh - Rory Gallagher!!!!!

Actually scratch that on second thoughts I'll go for CJ's brother Ciaran!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 12:51:48 AM
thought Ciaran was man of th match? won all the dirty ball, was on hand for most of the moves, and scored a few. best player on the park.

what was the head gear Madden was using?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on September 27, 2009, 10:52:03 AM
Why was karl Stwert not listed in the St Galls squad? St Galls where fantastic last night and must be clear favourites for ulster. Nial McKeever looked an ordinary club player in a Portglenone team that where woeful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2009, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on September 27, 2009, 10:52:03 AM
Why was karl Stwert not listed in the St Galls squad? St Galls where fantastic last night and must be clear favourites for ulster. Nial McKeever looked an ordinary club player in a Portglenone team that where woeful.

Exceptionally ordinary. I think he won the first half throw in and that was about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on September 27, 2009, 10:52:03 AM
Why was karl Stwert not listed in the St Galls squad? St Galls where fantastic last night and must be clear favourites for ulster. Nial McKeever looked an ordinary club player in a Portglenone team that where woeful.

he's just concentrating on hurling :P (injured)

i wouldn't say that we are favourites for Ulster. certainly like the other teams involved they'd all fancy getting to the final due to the teams that have been knocked out already. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Madge on September 27, 2009, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on September 27, 2009, 10:52:03 AM
Why was karl Stwert not listed in the St Galls squad? St Galls where fantastic last night and must be clear favourites for ulster. Nial McKeever looked an ordinary club player in a Portglenone team that where woeful.

he's just concentrating on hurling :P (injured)

i wouldn't say that we are favourites for Ulster. certainly like the other teams involved they'd all fancy getting to the final due to the teams that have been knocked out already.

St Galls will be clear favourites for Ulster once the odds come out no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 27, 2009, 04:51:09 PM
St Galls bound to be favourites, but they will have to get past alot of good teams to get to the final.

The semi final pairings are Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal and Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Cavan/Antrim.

Second is clearly the hardest, with possibility of St Galls having to play Cavan Gaels, then Armagh Harps/Pearse Og then Clontiberit/Latton/Ardboe/Carrickmore/Dromore/Killyclogher.

The other half is wide open and any team could progress through to the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 09:37:08 PM
cheers, i'm not going to open it tonight, i'll save this for the the Cavan Gaels match in two weeks.

Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on October 01, 2009, 12:19:13 AM
Aye, ended up at the Antrim Final on Wednesday night.
Time counting down in the 1st Half and time counting up in the 2nd Half.
Maybe just an experiment though Saint Pauls normally do the time counting down for the Ulster tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 07, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
What did everyone make of the weekends fixtures? Glenavy, Rasharkin and St Pauls in deep trouble. Moneyglass look safe after good win at Portglenone, and they have Glenavy and Rasharkin at home to come.
Title: Am
Post by: drici on October 09, 2009, 12:22:00 AM
Noticed at the Mullahoran match that the time was counting down again in the 1st Half and then when it got to nought started counting up again for the length of Injury Time. It then counted up during the 2nd Half and continued on into Injury Time but most people seemed glad that the referee didn't play much with the score at 1-21 to 0-01.
The flashing - GOAL - sign that comes on instead of the latest match score for about 30 seconds is handy also so people at the match know when a goal has been scored.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 10, 2009, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: drici on October 09, 2009, 12:22:00 AM
Noticed at the Mullahoran match that the time was counting down again in the 1st Half and then when it got to nought started counting up again for the length of Injury Time. It then counted up during the 2nd Half and continued on into Injury Time but most people seemed glad that the referee didn't play much with the score at 1-21 to 0-01.
The flashing - GOAL - sign that comes on instead of the latest match score for about 30 seconds is handy also so people at the match know when a goal has been scored.

yeah drici, its a bit of a roy of the rovers scoreboard dont you think!!
how did st pauls pull that result out against the johnnies in corrigan?
between rasharkin, glenavy and st pauls as to whos for the chop.
could again be a mad scramble to get matches played again for rasharkin with hurlers doing well in ulster.
down to the wire yet again i would say.
ahoghill have done well this year, probably going up 2 divisions in successive years.

congrats to all involved at con magees glenravel on their new facilities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Any craic on October 11, 2009, 11:46:04 AM
http://www.vimeo.com/7006433// - now this is what the GAA is all about.
Title: Oidhche Aoine
Post by: drici on October 13, 2009, 10:10:25 PM
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So whats the verdict on the St Teresa's v McDermotts final tomorrow evening? Should I bring a flack jacket or have the old grudges been buried firmly in the past? 

 

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on October 18, 2009, 08:15:05 PM
Well lads, anyone at the St Galls game today ?

3 men sent off for Cavan, was it a dirty game ?

After watching the game today would you still consider St Galls favourites for the ulster club championship ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 09:57:46 PM
Conditions were terrible, slippery underfoot and mistakes by both teams, Cavan Gaels looked the part and sailed into a early lead. we were crap to be fair and Gaels upset whatever game plan we had. before half time it was 1-5 to 0-2.

second half we came out and blew them away. got a lucky penalty (i thought anyway) and CJ stood up and blasted it to the net. only one winner after that. Bringing on Darren O'Hare was the difference to be fair. he was a great target man and give us an option, as trying to break down the Gaels was hard

Gaels lost out today on by being negative, had they stuck to playing football then they would have hammered us. but sure Casement on the 30th against Pearse Og's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2009, 10:01:46 PM
Good to hear that Darren is back, although most Darrens are w**kers. Why did he ever stop? As you say, a great option to have.

::) ::)

Darren's back now two years, really playing well and the game was set up for him. man mountain
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2009, 11:31:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2009, 10:01:46 PM
Good to hear that Darren is back, although most Darrens are w**kers. Why did he ever stop? As you say, a great option to have.

My sources tell me he was getting stick from 'er indoors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2009, 11:40:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 09:57:46 PM
Conditions were terrible, slippery underfoot and mistakes by both teams, Cavan Gaels looked the part and sailed into a early lead. we were crap to be fair and Gaels upset whatever game plan we had. before half time it was 1-5 to 0-2.

second half we came out and blew them away. got a lucky penalty (i thought anyway) and CJ stood up and blasted it to the net. only one winner after that. Bringing on Darren O'Hare was the difference to be fair. he was a great target man and give us an option, as trying to break down the Gaels was hard


More bollix. It was 1-3 to 0-2 at half time and Cavan came out flying in the second half, increasing the lead to 1-5 to 0-2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: winsamsoon on October 18, 2009, 11:49:18 PM
Good lad station monday club for you saan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2009, 11:53:25 PM
I thought the "blocked" was in relation to Milltown Row..............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thewanderer on October 20, 2009, 03:12:12 PM
heard from some of gaels men that the verbal abuse by st. galls was disgraceful and c.j. running 40 yards after scoring his penalty to jump up into the gaels no6 face was bad. do they really need to do this???????????? it looks like soccer louts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2009, 03:16:49 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 20, 2009, 03:12:12 PM
heard from some of gaels men that the verbal abuse by st. galls was disgraceful and c.j. running 40 yards after scoring his penalty to jump up into the gaels no6 face was bad. do they really need to do this???????????? it looks like soccer louts

Were you actually at the game or you just trying to stir after the event?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 03:44:07 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 20, 2009, 03:12:12 PM
heard from some of gaels men that the verbal abuse by st. galls was disgraceful and c.j. running 40 yards after scoring his penalty to jump up into the gaels no6 face was bad. do they really need to do this???????????? it looks like soccer louts

I heard that on scoring a goal in the same game, a Cavan Gaels player turned round to the (admittedly porky) Gall's keeper and said (in a Cavan / Australian type accent) "Where were you for that you fat bastard?"

butterknife reckons he has never heard worse than the Cavan Gaels players (which is an achievement given some of his club mates). Incredible then that Mick O'Dowd should be annoyed at his players being goaded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thewanderer on October 20, 2009, 04:02:03 PM
he s not that porky really?. i know him good lad, must get talkin to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 04:07:31 PM
Walsh obviously thought he was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 22, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
Anyone heard of new additions to the football panel after the game the other night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on October 22, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
Tyrone in Casement. Could be a famous victory. What do you think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 23, 2009, 01:53:52 AM
Quote from: Saffrons on October 22, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
Tyrone in Casement. Could be a famous victory. What do you think?

I'm sure Clár Fógraí would tell you that Tyrone's always knocking about Casement.  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 08, 2009, 09:18:09 PM
Anyone at the Galls match today ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2009, 09:32:29 PM
Well done to st teresas as I see they won. I'm not sure I've ever seen an Antrim team win in the junior before.

Hard luck to Ahoghill - must be sickening to get beat by a point. Monaghan Harps, I'd guess, would be a decent enough team too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 10:14:42 PM
Great win today for St Teresa's, i hope they go on and do well.

was not at our match today, cant really comment on it. but if we play the way i heard we played today then we wont progress. though we did score more than 4 points. has the 'wanderer' been on posting yet?

on another note, i've just heard that Teddy McCarthy is in Milltown having a drink tonight :o

my boyhood hero in the club and i aint there >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 12:07:34 PM
Milltown good intense match yesterday certainly the ogs defied the bookies odds and could have nicked it with the goal chance at the end. I thought also the referee didnt give much protection to Ronan Clarke and should have awarded the ogs a penalty. But good luck to the Galls and i hope they go on and win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
Watched the railway cup final on TG4 there. Ulster had a number 24 who I swore they said Scullion for - anyone know if it was our own Tony Scullion??

I checked the Irish news and he wasn't listed however they had munster's line-up completely wrong so I'm not sure if they can be trusted...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bitta-Banter on November 09, 2009, 11:29:16 PM
thought 24 was Conor Gormley from Tyrone.
Title: Aontroim
Post by: drici on November 10, 2009, 12:48:59 AM
From antrimgaa.ie Website

St Teresa's booked their place in the semi-final of the Ulster Club Junior Championship when they held of a spirited late rally by Butlersbridge of Fermanagh at Casement Park. St Teresa's appeared to be home and dry when they opened up a six point lead early in the second half, but they failed to score in the final quarter as the Fermanagh men fought back to within two.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on November 10, 2009, 08:42:18 AM
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Butlersbridge is in Cavan - not by much, but definitely in Cavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 10, 2009, 08:49:08 AM
Nicholas Walsh has some cheek to be calling anybody a fat b**tard - seen Cavan in the USFC this year and he is a lardy boy and is pretty limited as a footballer too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Buzz on November 10, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
hes a big lad alright, not much football in him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 10, 2009, 06:28:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 09, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
Watched the railway cup final on TG4 there. Ulster had a number 24 who I swore they said Scullion for - anyone know if it was our own Tony Scullion??

I checked the Irish news and he wasn't listed however they had munster's line-up completely wrong so I'm not sure if they can be trusted...
Noticed that myself, but it wasn't Tony.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 13, 2009, 09:15:52 AM
Ah, the joys of the winter months...Santa's dusting down the Sleigh, there's a chill in the air and Rasharkin are playing teams in the "floodlights" in their mudbath to salvage points to stay up (generally teams who don't care).

It gives me a warm glow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 13, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
Its ridiculous Rasharkin get away with that. I feel for teams like St Pauls who are in danger of going down because of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 13, 2009, 11:12:04 AM
St. Paul's only need to beat Rasharkin to secure their status for next year and confirm relegation for Rasharkin - i think its fair enough that both teams fight it out to see who goes down regardless of when the game should have been played - Div 2 is still undecided as far as relegation issues too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on November 13, 2009, 11:17:13 AM
Ridiculous that Rasharkin get away with what exactly?

I don't think its a situation that they really want or somehow manufactured, Rasharkin play their games as and when they are fixed.

The game on Sunday between the 2 will go a long way to deciding who is relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 13, 2009, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on November 13, 2009, 11:17:13 AM
Ridiculous that Rasharkin get away with what exactly?

I don't think its a situation that they really want or somehow manufactured, Rasharkin play their games as and when they are fixed.

The game on Sunday between the 2 will go a long way to deciding who is relegated.
Its not the first time its happened with them. They had opportunities to play games earlier in the season, but declined.

I hope St Pauls send them down!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on November 13, 2009, 01:48:26 PM
With the risk of sounding like a mod on the Antrim site, but how exactly would a club go about declining to play games??

The outstanding fixtures rasharkin have to fullfill are mainly due to the hurlers winning the junior championship and playing in the ulster junior.

This meant that the game v st galls on 4th Oct and v St Pauls on 25th Oct were not played.  There was also a game v Cargin on 1st Nov called off, this was due to the heavy rain that weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 13, 2009, 04:47:29 PM
I know of one they refused to play v Moneyglass, because of an Ulster Junior Hurling league semi-final 2 days later. I don't think Antrim football league games should be called off for such a reason.
In the end, it didn't matter as they didn't get any points from the game. But it does seem that they pick up a lot of points towards the end of the season, when most teams are safe and don't care about games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on November 13, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
On closer inspection I don't think it was unreasonable, in fact the game was postponed until the saturday by the county as Rasharkin had a hurling championship match the day before and the Ulster league match you mention was the day after.

Moneyglass then declined to play the match.

Nobody wants to be playing matches at this time of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 14, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
Samba saffron you sure you havent already made this accusation about rasharkin?
which was made on antrim gaa message board and duely replied to:

Name : Arnold02 November 2009I can understand the frustration by many regarding the number of fixtures still to be played in Div 1 Football. The county try their best and release fixture dates well in advance at the beginning of the season. The problem lies when clubs call off or re-fix games for strange reasons. This has happened to a club in div 1 football for the past two seasons. If this club survives again due to other clubs fielding understrength teams, will the county make sure this does not happen again. Lamh dhearg sufferd as a result of this last year and another club could be relegated as a result of this, this year

And the rply:
Name : Just for the record03 November 2009In response to the various emails regarding Rasharkin getting various matches called off this is absolute nonsense. Three games have been rescheduled this year for the following reasons 1) St Galls match postponed at the request of St Galls, 2) Moneyglass didn't field for reasons of their own which was the subject of appeals by both clubs and must now be refixed and 3) St Paul's was rescheduled as Rasharkin were competing in the Ulster JHC final on the same day.

The comments around the 3 points secured against St Galls last year fail to include the fact that on the way to avoiding relegation I believe Rasharkin also defeated St Johns, Portglenone, Creggan and Gort na Mona. Lamh Dhearg were relegated last year as they could not beat St John's in the final game to stay up. Fair play to Lamh Dhearg they have regrouped and are making an immediate return to division one.

As for Rasharkin it will be a tall order to fulfill all the fixtures let alone stay up but we will give it our best shot. If we are not successful we will take our medicine and move on. To suggest there are other motives at play here smacks of sour grapes and places question marks over the integrity of our club which is not acceptable.

so you think clubs should be punished for being dual clubs!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on November 15, 2009, 08:19:01 PM
Anyone at the game today ?

Only thing I have to go on is the BBC report,  which suggests that Kevin Mc Gourty has awoken from his slumber and started to play some ball.

Did the game reflect St Galls showing what they are capable of or was it a case that Clontibret had quite a few injuries and were not up to scratch ?

Have to say I'm looking forward to the final I think it should be a great game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 15, 2009, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 14, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
Samba saffron you sure you havent already made this accusation about rasharkin?
which was made on antrim gaa message board and duely replied to:

Name : Arnold02 November 2009I can understand the frustration by many regarding the number of fixtures still to be played in Div 1 Football. The county try their best and release fixture dates well in advance at the beginning of the season. The problem lies when clubs call off or re-fix games for strange reasons. This has happened to a club in div 1 football for the past two seasons. If this club survives again due to other clubs fielding understrength teams, will the county make sure this does not happen again. Lamh dhearg sufferd as a result of this last year and another club could be relegated as a result of this, this year

And the rply:
Name : Just for the record03 November 2009In response to the various emails regarding Rasharkin getting various matches called off this is absolute nonsense. Three games have been rescheduled this year for the following reasons 1) St Galls match postponed at the request of St Galls, 2) Moneyglass didn't field for reasons of their own which was the subject of appeals by both clubs and must now be refixed and 3) St Paul's was rescheduled as Rasharkin were competing in the Ulster JHC final on the same day.

The comments around the 3 points secured against St Galls last year fail to include the fact that on the way to avoiding relegation I believe Rasharkin also defeated St Johns, Portglenone, Creggan and Gort na Mona. Lamh Dhearg were relegated last year as they could not beat St John's in the final game to stay up. Fair play to Lamh Dhearg they have regrouped and are making an immediate return to division one.

As for Rasharkin it will be a tall order to fulfill all the fixtures let alone stay up but we will give it our best shot. If we are not successful we will take our medicine and move on. To suggest there are other motives at play here smacks of sour grapes and places question marks over the integrity of our club which is not acceptable.

so you think clubs should be punished for being dual clubs!!
No, wasn't me.

Not at all, I understand the pressure dual clubs are under and sympathise with them. I do feel though that there was ample opportunity to play the games before this time of year. The fact they weren't played is obviously the county board's fault and outside Rasharkin's control. I don't believe the postponement of said Moneyglass game was appropriate though.
Anyway, just noticed the result of today's game so its all irrelevant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2009, 10:26:51 PM
Well done to St Teresas. Finalists in 2 of the 3 ulster football championships isn't bad. Monaghan Harps ran a county star littered Cookstown close too which puts Ahoghill's result against them into perspective as not a bad one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 16, 2009, 08:44:51 AM
QuoteWell done to St Teresas. Finalists in 2 of the 3 ulster football championships isn't bad. Monaghan Harps ran a county star littered Cookstown close too which puts Ahoghill's result against them into perspective as not a bad one.

County star littered team?  Bit of an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
That team is full of boys with country experience. Ok only two current seniors at present but I think there are maybe two others who have played senior and various at minor and u21. Ok they can't be that good if they're playing intermediate - unless they're on the way up - but they definitely have a lot of strength in there for this level of football and Tyrone always do very well in intermediate and junior within ulster.

Anyway, good luck to both antrim teams in the final.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 17, 2009, 09:09:05 PM
sambasaffron,
Moneyglass match was a farce to start with, as moneyglass had a wedding the day before and just didnt turn up at their own pitch, but then somehow were allowed it to be refixed, after appeal and counter appeal.

as you said little odds now as rasharkin have admitted defeat and arent playing anymore games in div 1 and are confined to division 2 yet again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 17, 2009, 09:16:14 PM
I think the reason they didn't turn up is because they were refusing to play. They had been told it was a free weekend for the wedding, then a few days before were told the game had to be played. They offered to play Friday or Monday, but this wasn't agreed.

As for Cookstown nrico, their team is full of all-ireland winners. 2 at senior level, quite a few minor and u21. About 5 of them have senior county experience of some sort, they are an amazingly strong intermediate team. So for Harps to run them so close shows Ahoghill gave a good accout of themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 17, 2009, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 16, 2009, 08:44:51 AM
QuoteWell done to St Teresas. Finalists in 2 of the 3 ulster football championships isn't bad. Monaghan Harps ran a county star littered Cookstown close too which puts Ahoghill's result against them into perspective as not a bad one.

County star littered team?  Bit of an exaggeration.

Quote from: sam03/05 on November 08, 2009, 11:25:58 PM
I was looking at the Cookstown team in the programme today. I am not from the club but by my reckoning from the starting team, players with all ireland medals
Ryan Pickering (minor)
John Gilmore (minor)
Martin Murray (minor)
Ray Mulgrew (minor/senior)
Owen Mulligan (minor/senior)
Conor O'Hare (minor)
Barry Mulligan (minor)
Conor Mullan (minor)

players who have played for Tyrone seniors - P McGurk/ G Fitzpatrick/ O Mulligan/ R Mulgrew/ J Gilmore/ maybe M Murray but not 100% on that one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 19, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
Some competition for places on the football team next year... (just posted this on the hurling section as well).


"Herron switching codes

Dinny Cahill
19 November 2009


New Antrim hurling manager Dinny Cahill has suffered an early setback with the news that Brendan Herron is set to declare for Liam Bradley's footballers next year.

Herron, who had been involved with the hurlers last year, attended a recent football trial match against a Derry selection and it's believed he will be included in the county's McKenna Cup squad.

According to the Irish News, Herron is one of at least four players who didn't feature in last year's championship who are set to commit to the football squad in 2010. Randalstown's Micheal Magill and Rasharkin clubman Paul Doherty, who were both abroad last summer, are set to rejoin Bradley's squad, as is former captain Sean Kelly.

Kelly quit the squad following Antrim's 2008 Ulster SFC defeat to Cavan. He missed the team's subsequent Tommy Murphy Cup success and wasn't involved last season."



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 19, 2009, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: Glensman on November 19, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
Some competition for places on the football team next year... (just posted this on the hurling section as well).


"Herron switching codes

Dinny Cahill
19 November 2009


New Antrim hurling manager Dinny Cahill has suffered an early setback with the news that Brendan Herron is set to declare for Liam Bradley's footballers next year.

Herron, who had been involved with the hurlers last year, attended a recent football trial match against a Derry selection and it's believed he will be included in the county's McKenna Cup squad.

According to the Irish News, Herron is one of at least four players who didn't feature in last year's championship who are set to commit to the football squad in 2010. Randalstown's Micheal Magill and Rasharkin clubman Paul Doherty, who were both abroad last summer, are set to rejoin Bradley's squad, as is former captain Sean Kelly.

Kelly quit the squad following Antrim's 2008 Ulster SFC defeat to Cavan. He missed the team's subsequent Tommy Murphy Cup success and wasn't involved last season."

Good news...for the footballers at least...any word on CJ's status??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2009, 03:14:52 PM
Great to hear Sean Kelly is back. Herron should also offer options in the HF line which is something I feel we've been lacking. Magill should offer more ball winning options in the FF line.

As for CJ - well I'd be surprised if Baker took him back. I'd say he'd be right not to as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 19, 2009, 06:05:31 PM
PD will add a bit of height in big Niall's absence. Herron will be an option round half-forward, can't see him breaking in to first 15 though, even if Tomas goes. Good news though, gives us a bit of squad depth, especially since we could be missing the St Galls boys for the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2009, 09:11:33 PM
Heard a couple of other names as well from up round Hannahstown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 19, 2009, 09:20:12 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2009, 09:11:33 PM
Heard a couple of other names as well from up round Hannahstown.

Does he teach in La Salle? has he made a comeback?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 19, 2009, 11:26:38 PM
Anyone got a list of the squad for the McKenna Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 20, 2009, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 19, 2009, 09:20:12 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 19, 2009, 09:11:33 PM
Heard a couple of other names as well from up round Hannahstown.

Does he teach in La Salle? has he made a comeback?

The comeback's planned. He doing spin cycle classes every day and has cut his lunch down to two sausage rolls baps (from five).

Watch this space.

Oh and Chris Lynch has been recalled also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2009, 10:13:24 PM
Tomas Mc Cann on his way back home from Oz.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 24, 2009, 10:15:57 PM
Free holiday or missed rainy Ireland?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 24, 2009, 10:25:04 PM
Yeah i thought so. he'll settle for a sigerson then the national league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2009, 11:17:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 24, 2009, 10:15:57 PM
Free holiday or missed rainy Ireland?

Not enough money.......

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=120848

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 25, 2009, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 24, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
Sights set on bringing Sam to the Elk. Fair play.
He's transferring to derry?



Minder its not just a case of money. It was a strange decision of the club to bring him over for trial in the first place as they've used their international rookie for this season. Tomas would have been playing VFL all season, while O'Reilly would have been the priority between the 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on November 26, 2009, 04:17:45 PM
Nice to see Kevin getting a bit of profile

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8379269.stm

Mellowing McGourty suits Gall's
By John Haughey
BBC Northern Ireland

Kevin McGourty has his head stuck in a pile of very academic-looking papers before he spots you wandering towards him at the busy Queen's Students Union coffee bar. The greeting is warm as he explains his plan to begin a PHD in January to add to his BA and MA degrees and law institute qualification which he hopefully will get positive news of after sitting his final exams in Dublin last month. The man is certainly no idler.  The 26-year-old has been one of the main movers in convincing an initially reluctant Fianna Fail that it should officially organise in Northern Ireland. Until recently, McGourty was chairman of the party's branch in South Down and he is now fulfilling a similar role in Fianna Fail's Antrim/Belfast wing. McGourty's passion for his cause is obvious and meetings with Fianna Fail bigwigs have become a regular aspect of his schedule. In the midst of his studies and political machinating, McGourty has also been back at his beloved St Gall's and helping the West Belfast outfit reach Sunday's Ulster Club Football Final against old rivals Loup.

"I'm keeping myself busy on all fronts and trying to play a bit of football in between," he nods.

Six months ago, it was by no means certain that McGourty's talents would be seen on any high-profile football occasion again. Disillusionment still lingered from his headline-generating 2007 axing from the Antrim football panel by then Saffron County boss Jody Gormley and the abuse that was directed at him from certain quarters. He wondered if it all was worth the hassle and if wasn't as if he had much spare time on his hands. But then, his uncle and godfather Lenny Harbinson, the newly-appointed manager of St Gall's, came calling. "I possibly see the game as a burden sometimes maybe when I should see the enjoyable side of it," reflects McGourty. "I went back because Lenny's a relation of mine and because St Gall's have given me so much. "It was the end of June but the boys didn't have any problems with me coming back in late and things have gone fairly well thus far."

2007 should have been one of the most memorable years in his football career after achieving a major goal by helping Queen's win the Sigerson Cup when they edged out UUJ after extra-time at the Dub. But by the end of that year, "I'd had my fill of football" as even spectating at games had become problematic amid the taunts being directed at McGourty and members of his family.
McGourty has no particular desire to rehash the rights or wrongs of Gormley's decision but for the record, it came after the Belfast man opted to follow through on his season-long training commitments with the Queen's ladies team as opposed to being available for a National Football League game against Kilkenny. "The ladies tournament was here in Belfast over the Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I didn't have the time to give to Antrim that weekend," recalls McGourty. "Jody realised my predicament when he talked to me at the start of the year but I suppose he needed to win as well and he needed all his players there. But I felt I was giving something back to football."

While the accusation that he was a disruptive force did gain currency in some quarters, it did not prevent then Down manager Ross Carr from making genuine attempts last year to convince McGourty to throw his lot in with the Mourne County.

That should not have been a surprise as no less eminent a judge than Mickey Harte had gone on record as saying that McGourty was the man he would plump for, if he could cherry pick one player from another Ulster.

"There was a possibility of going to Down last year. There's no doubt about that," acknowledges McGourty.

"The ultimate decision was left to me but moving away from St Gall's was going to be a very hard thing to do, given my emotional and family ties with the club."

The Harte praise is something that McGourty is genuinely grateful for.

"I think Mickey sees the opposite side to what others would say about me and that I have been blessed with some ability. It's a massive compliment."

Like his brother Conor, McGourty watched Antrim's exploits this summer as a supporter and he insists that there was no sense of jealousy at missing out on the county's biggest football occasions in almost 40 years.

"People will probably think: 'He's just saying that' but I went to the games with people from St Gall's and organised a few buses to go to the matches and enjoyed the days out.

"In fairness, the team played exceptionally well. Liam Bradley had them going very well."

Mention of Bradley inevitable leads to the question of whether Kevin could be coaxed back into Saffron colours in 2010.

He doesn't see it happening, although he leaves a little wriggle-room by adding, "you never say never".

"Whether Liam Bradley wants me back is one thing," he continues.

"They are on an upward curve and after the season they've had, I'd be foolish not to consider it but I have to be realistic as well with all the other things that I have going on at the moment which maybe would rule me out."

So what of Sunday's business in hand at Newry
McGourty is plainly surprised when told of the widespread rumours of ill-feeling between the protagonists arising from the 2003 Ulster decider won by Loup.

"I've just had a 15-minute conversation with (Loup's) Paul McVey who went to college with me.

"I exchange texts messages regularly with Joe O'Kane who I won a Sigerson medal with. I think he's a wonderful player.

"And I would know Johnny McBride quite well. In fact, next Sunday I'll be giving Johnny McBride his top back from 2003 when they beat us and we swapped tops.

"I think that it's only right that he gets his top back that we won with. He'll want that to cherish.

"There's absolutely no fallout. They won fair and square on the day."

But McGourty agrees that the 2003 defeat will be a "motivating factor" in the rematch plus the desire to get back to the All-Ireland stage after their desperately disappointing one-point defeat by Salthill in the 2006 St Patrick's Day decider.

"I personally had four shots in the All-Ireland final. Three of them went wide. All I needed was two to go over to win an All-Ireland.

"I missed a shot clean under the net when it dropped out of the boy's hands. I was two yards out and I punched it wide.

"I had the winning of an All-Ireland title in my hands and I didn't take it. It does naturally haunt you.


"To lose in the manner we lost it, knowing we didn't play to our full potential, was very frustrating and of course you are going to think about it."

A lot of water has flowed under the bridge in those four years but McGourty's reflections suggest a mellowing in his character - at least when it comes to football.

"It's now become more enjoyable because I suppose, I've become less serious about it.

"I used to be totally and utterly passionate about the game and emotionally ground up in it. I've withdrawn a bit because of experiences I've had in the last couple of years."

McGourty's more laidback approach worked in the Ulster semi-final demolition of Clontibret when he and Rory Gallagher helped rip the Monaghan club's defence to shreds.

"Their keeper hit a few stray kick-outs and I was lucky enough to be on the end of them.

"I contributed a point and maybe myself and Rory got the plaudits but the fellows at the back are playing really well at the minute and our midfielders Aodhan Gallagher and Sean Burke are producing the best football of their lives.

"It's pretty easy to play in front of a good solid backline and very strong midfield."

Wrapping up a very pleasant hour and a quarter, McGourty reflects on his evolving attitude to his sport.

"I've enjoyed my time out. I'm not so emotionally-charged about football. I've got other things going on in my life now that I'm happy enough with.

"Football will always play an important part but whether it will play the part that it used to, I don't think I'll ever re-discover the old emotion that I had for it."

But in McGourty's case, perhaps he's found the secret.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 26, 2009, 06:16:35 PM
Interesting interview indeed, love him or hate him, he talks an awful lot of sense when he wants to!
i for one would like to see him back with county squad, as the best players available should be playing county football, hopefully he does make himself available.

que the usual mcgourty bashing!!

good luck to st teresa's and st gall's on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 26, 2009, 09:52:11 PM
Good luck to Lenny and the lads on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 26, 2009, 10:11:01 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 26, 2009, 06:16:35 PM
Interesting interview indeed, love him or hate him, he talks an awful lot of sense when he wants to!
i for one would like to see him back with county squad, as the best players available should be playing county football, hopefully he does make himself available.

que the usual mcgourty bashing!!

good luck to st teresa's and st gall's on sunday.

Even if they are a disruptive influence? And he always has been. Maybe he has grown up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 27, 2009, 01:24:33 PM
Good Luck to St Galls at the weekend.

A team in the club final and the county team in the Ulster final in one year, does that mean that Antrim are the new dominant force in Ulster Football?  :D

On a more serious note, stirling work being done by St Galls and they deserve another crack at an All Ireland I think sundays game could be their biggest obstacle to that goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 29, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Well done St Galls..super team. Go on now & win the All Ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 29, 2009, 04:02:37 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 29, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Well done St Galls..super team. Go on now & win the All Ireland.

I hope so, I stuck £20 on them yesterday to win the AI.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 29, 2009, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2009, 04:02:37 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 29, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Well done St Galls..super team. Go on now & win the All Ireland.

I hope so, I stuck £20 on them yesterday to win the AI.
Wot odds Minder? I'd say they've drifted in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 29, 2009, 04:20:05 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 29, 2009, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2009, 04:02:37 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 29, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Well done St Galls..super team. Go on now & win the All Ireland.

I hope so, I stuck £20 on them yesterday to win the AI.
Wot odds Minder? I'd say they've drifted in.

7/2 favourites, aye I knew I had to do them before today. Portlaois were 4/1 but hadn't even played their refixed game with Clara ( which they won) so if they win Leinster they will probably be joint favourites with St Galls. St Galls were favs I would say because they were already in their provincial final and it was seen as a slam dunk against Loup, which it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 13aside on November 29, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
Congratulations to St.Galls after a superb all-round display today in Newry.Took charge 10 mins before the break and never looked like losing thereafter.Deserved Ulster Champions for 2009-WellDone and good luck in the AI. semi-final!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 29, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
Well done to St Galls  good luck inthe AI semi come February.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Olly on November 30, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
Well done to the Naomh Galls boys in representing Antrim. Finish the job St Teresa's and we're a proud county this Christmas. Possibly 2 football titles out of three and two out of the three hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thewanderer on November 30, 2009, 12:39:05 PM
congradulations st galls at least pearse og pushed you all the way and helped u raise the bar.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on November 30, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
Anyone see the Portglenone footballer on the Friday Night show? There was a hurler from the glens ther as well.

It's just a pity Harry didnt kick Holmes fat arse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 30, 2009, 07:03:04 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 30, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
Anyone see the Portglenone footballer on the Friday Night show? There was a hurler from the glens ther as well.

It's just a pity Harry didnt kick Holmes fat arse.

What was the craic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on November 30, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on November 26, 2009, 04:17:45 PM
Nice to see Kevin getting a bit of profile

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8379269.stm

Mellowing McGourty suits Gall's
By John Haughey
BBC Northern Ireland

Kevin McGourty has his head stuck in a pile of very academic-looking papers before he spots you wandering towards him at the busy Queen's Students Union coffee bar. The greeting is warm as he explains his plan to begin a PHD in January to add to his BA and MA degrees and law institute qualification which he hopefully will get positive news of after sitting his final exams in Dublin last month. The man is certainly no idler.  The 26-year-old has been one of the main movers in convincing an initially reluctant Fianna Fail that it should officially organise in Northern Ireland. Until recently, McGourty was chairman of the party's branch in South Down and he is now fulfilling a similar role in Fianna Fail's Antrim/Belfast wing. McGourty's passion for his cause is obvious and meetings with Fianna Fail bigwigs have become a regular aspect of his schedule. In the midst of his studies and political machinating, McGourty has also been back at his beloved St Gall's and helping the West Belfast outfit reach Sunday's Ulster Club Football Final against old rivals Loup.

"I'm keeping myself busy on all fronts and trying to play a bit of football in between," he nods.

Six months ago, it was by no means certain that McGourty's talents would be seen on any high-profile football occasion again. Disillusionment still lingered from his headline-generating 2007 axing from the Antrim football panel by then Saffron County boss Jody Gormley and the abuse that was directed at him from certain quarters. He wondered if it all was worth the hassle and if wasn't as if he had much spare time on his hands. But then, his uncle and godfather Lenny Harbinson, the newly-appointed manager of St Gall's, came calling. "I possibly see the game as a burden sometimes maybe when I should see the enjoyable side of it," reflects McGourty. "I went back because Lenny's a relation of mine and because St Gall's have given me so much. "It was the end of June but the boys didn't have any problems with me coming back in late and things have gone fairly well thus far."

2007 should have been one of the most memorable years in his football career after achieving a major goal by helping Queen's win the Sigerson Cup when they edged out UUJ after extra-time at the Dub. But by the end of that year, "I'd had my fill of football" as even spectating at games had become problematic amid the taunts being directed at McGourty and members of his family.
McGourty has no particular desire to rehash the rights or wrongs of Gormley's decision but for the record, it came after the Belfast man opted to follow through on his season-long training commitments with the Queen's ladies team as opposed to being available for a National Football League game against Kilkenny. "The ladies tournament was here in Belfast over the Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I didn't have the time to give to Antrim that weekend," recalls McGourty. "Jody realised my predicament when he talked to me at the start of the year but I suppose he needed to win as well and he needed all his players there. But I felt I was giving something back to football."

While the accusation that he was a disruptive force did gain currency in some quarters, it did not prevent then Down manager Ross Carr from making genuine attempts last year to convince McGourty to throw his lot in with the Mourne County.

That should not have been a surprise as no less eminent a judge than Mickey Harte had gone on record as saying that McGourty was the man he would plump for, if he could cherry pick one player from another Ulster.

"There was a possibility of going to Down last year. There's no doubt about that," acknowledges McGourty.

"The ultimate decision was left to me but moving away from St Gall's was going to be a very hard thing to do, given my emotional and family ties with the club."

The Harte praise is something that McGourty is genuinely grateful for.

"I think Mickey sees the opposite side to what others would say about me and that I have been blessed with some ability. It's a massive compliment."

Like his brother Conor, McGourty watched Antrim's exploits this summer as a supporter and he insists that there was no sense of jealousy at missing out on the county's biggest football occasions in almost 40 years.

"People will probably think: 'He's just saying that' but I went to the games with people from St Gall's and organised a few buses to go to the matches and enjoyed the days out.

"In fairness, the team played exceptionally well. Liam Bradley had them going very well."

Mention of Bradley inevitable leads to the question of whether Kevin could be coaxed back into Saffron colours in 2010.

He doesn't see it happening, although he leaves a little wriggle-room by adding, "you never say never".

"Whether Liam Bradley wants me back is one thing," he continues.

"They are on an upward curve and after the season they've had, I'd be foolish not to consider it but I have to be realistic as well with all the other things that I have going on at the moment which maybe would rule me out."

So what of Sunday's business in hand at Newry
McGourty is plainly surprised when told of the widespread rumours of ill-feeling between the protagonists arising from the 2003 Ulster decider won by Loup.

"I've just had a 15-minute conversation with (Loup's) Paul McVey who went to college with me.

"I exchange texts messages regularly with Joe O'Kane who I won a Sigerson medal with. I think he's a wonderful player.

"And I would know Johnny McBride quite well. In fact, next Sunday I'll be giving Johnny McBride his top back from 2003 when they beat us and we swapped tops.

"I think that it's only right that he gets his top back that we won with. He'll want that to cherish.

"There's absolutely no fallout. They won fair and square on the day."

But McGourty agrees that the 2003 defeat will be a "motivating factor" in the rematch plus the desire to get back to the All-Ireland stage after their desperately disappointing one-point defeat by Salthill in the 2006 St Patrick's Day decider.

"I personally had four shots in the All-Ireland final. Three of them went wide. All I needed was two to go over to win an All-Ireland.

"I missed a shot clean under the net when it dropped out of the boy's hands. I was two yards out and I punched it wide.

"I had the winning of an All-Ireland title in my hands and I didn't take it. It does naturally haunt you.


"To lose in the manner we lost it, knowing we didn't play to our full potential, was very frustrating and of course you are going to think about it."

A lot of water has flowed under the bridge in those four years but McGourty's reflections suggest a mellowing in his character - at least when it comes to football.

"It's now become more enjoyable because I suppose, I've become less serious about it.

"I used to be totally and utterly passionate about the game and emotionally ground up in it. I've withdrawn a bit because of experiences I've had in the last couple of years."

McGourty's more laidback approach worked in the Ulster semi-final demolition of Clontibret when he and Rory Gallagher helped rip the Monaghan club's defence to shreds.

"Their keeper hit a few stray kick-outs and I was lucky enough to be on the end of them.

"I contributed a point and maybe myself and Rory got the plaudits but the fellows at the back are playing really well at the minute and our midfielders Aodhan Gallagher and Sean Burke are producing the best football of their lives.

"It's pretty easy to play in front of a good solid backline and very strong midfield."

Wrapping up a very pleasant hour and a quarter, McGourty reflects on his evolving attitude to his sport.

"I've enjoyed my time out. I'm not so emotionally-charged about football. I've got other things going on in my life now that I'm happy enough with.

"Football will always play an important part but whether it will play the part that it used to, I don't think I'll ever re-discover the old emotion that I had for it."

But in McGourty's case, perhaps he's found the secret.

The mans a class act. i hope he goes back to the county, too good a player not to be involved. He is a joy to watch and gives everything to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on November 30, 2009, 10:28:35 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2009, 07:03:04 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 30, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
Anyone see the Portglenone footballer on the Friday Night show? There was a hurler from the glens ther as well.

It's just a pity Harry didnt kick Holmes fat arse.

What was the craic?

Young McKeever didnt get picked for the blind date thingy. Ah she was a dog anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on December 01, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
our boy from the dall done himself no favours with the singing. who admits to liking westlife? Thought McKeever was a cert.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 02, 2009, 12:50:19 PM
Antrim Mc Kenna cup squad 2010

1. Ciaran Brady - Moneyglass
2. Ryan Boyd – Moneyglass
3. Ciaran Close – Cargin
4. Paddy Carey – Portglenone
5. Paddy Cunningham- Lámh Dhearg
6. Paul Doherty – Rasharkin
7. Oliver Gilpin - Creggan
8. Aaron Douglas – St Johns
9. Darragh Edwards – St Brigids
10. John Finucane –  Lámh Dhearg
11. Damian Gault – St Enda's
12. Benny Hassan – Rasharkin
13. Brendan Herron – Lámh Dhearg
14. Chrissy Lavery – Aghagallon
15. James Loughery – St Brigids
16. Conor Maxwell – St Enda's
17. Conor Murray –Lámh Dhearg
18. Michael McGill – Tír na nÓg
19. Michael McCann – Cargin
20. Sean McGreevy – St Pauls
21. Kevin McQuillan – Dunloy
22. Gerard O'Boyle – Cargin
23. Neil O'Connell – Ahoghill
24. Eoin O'Neill – Cargin
25. Tony Scullion – Cargin
26. Gerard Walls – Lámh Dhearg
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 02, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
Thats Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Oliver Duffin Creggan
and I'm not sure but I'd say its Ciaran Lavery from Aghagallon.


Strange one to name Gerard O'Boyle in the squad despite him not having played for Cargin in about 3 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 02, 2009, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 02, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
Thats Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Oliver Duffin Creggan
and I'm not sure but I'd say its Ciaran Lavery from Aghagallon.


Strange one to name Gerard O'Boyle in the squad despite him not having played for Cargin in about 3 years.

Kevin??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 02, 2009, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on December 02, 2009, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 02, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
Thats Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Oliver Duffin Creggan
and I'm not sure but I'd say its Ciaran Lavery from Aghagallon.


Strange one to name Gerard O'Boyle in the squad despite him not having played for Cargin in about 3 years.

Kevin??
Could be. However, he's playing for the Ranch at the min. I doubt they'd let him play for Antrim in the McKenna Cup, considering the lack of depth in their squad. I've been wrong before though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2009, 01:56:39 PM
Strange one alright though he's one of the better players in the county when playing and on form.(and if he keeps his discipline)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 02, 2009, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2009, 01:56:39 PM
Strange one alright though he's one of the better players in the county when playing and on form.(and if he keeps his discipline)
Aye, no doubting the talent, can score from anywhere. But as you say temperament is suspect. I don't know if there was a fall-out with Cargin or if he's going back to play, but he'd certainly need to be playing somewhere week-in week-out. It'd take a long time to get the fitness back after such a long absence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2009, 02:34:25 PM
I don't think a falling out was the reason he wans't playing with Cargin. Can't remember the reason I heard but there was nothing sinister in it.

His reasons for leaving Creggan are another story but that's neither here nor there...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 02, 2009, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 02, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
Thats Kevin Brady Moneyglass
Oliver Duffin Creggan
and I'm not sure but I'd say its Ciaran Lavery from Aghagallon.


Strange one to name Gerard O'Boyle in the squad despite him not having played for Cargin in about 3 years.

Chris
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Olly on December 02, 2009, 10:54:14 PM
Apart from the Gallaghers, it is easier to pick who you wouldn't want on that galls teams to play Tyrone next year. If we have 2 of the 3 mcgourty's and Kelly, we could cause a few ripples. I probay wouldn't have Stewart on the football panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shambo on December 02, 2009, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Olly on December 02, 2009, 10:54:14 PM
Apart from the Gallaghers, it is easier to pick who you wouldn't want on that galls teams to play Tyrone next year. If we have 2 of the 3 mcgourty's and Kelly, we could cause a few ripples. I probay wouldn't have Stewart on the football panel

Karl Stewart? Olly have you ever played against Karl? why would you not?

Karl had a injury leading up to the football final (antrim) and it really is the only reason why he's not starting, team in place and all that.

Karl is one of the better st Galls footbllers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2009, 11:38:07 PM
No harm to Stewart but to be honest he'd not get on that Galls team anyway. He'd be a better footballer than O'Neill possibly but O'Neill adds more to the team.

You'd lose goalie, FF, one from FB line and two from HB line. You'd probably lose KieranMcGourty too. There - ten of them on the team plus Loughrey, Crozier, McGreevey / Funucane in nets, two McCanns. You'd maybe lose Burke too despite good game on Sunday and look at Michael Magill. That'd be 5 clubs represented max...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Olly on December 03, 2009, 12:07:51 AM
The rasen I wouldn't have stewrt or kieran mchourty on the team is because they're hurling men and would better serve that county code. So wind your f**king neck in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
Good man, good debating skills there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shambo on December 03, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
Quote from: Olly on December 03, 2009, 12:07:51 AM
The rasen I wouldn't have stewrt or kieran mchourty on the team is because they're hurling men and would better serve that county code. So wind your f**king neck in

wind my F**king neck in??

you obviously haven't played against Karl or seen him play. you must play for the seconds of St Brigids. But yes hurling seems to be his first love, as for Ciaran McGourty, he's more noted for football but a quality hurler also.

You seem to be very limited in your local Gaa knowledge. head you over to the Hogan Stand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 03, 2009, 06:25:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2009, 01:56:39 PM
Strange one alright though he's one of the better players in the county when playing and on form.(and if he keeps his discipline)

Good footballer, but over-rated. Thought he'd vanished altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 03, 2009, 06:28:37 PM
Also, having read on a bit further in the thread I have to so that anyone who doesn't think Kieran McGourty is up to county standards is talking through their arse. He's probably the best distributor of the ball on the St. Gall's team, with the exception of maybe Sean Kelly.

Karl Stewart would walk onto any club team in Antrim, and several Ulster county teams. Phenomenal footballer and hurler.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2009, 06:57:33 PM
Slightly tainted view there gallsman. Stewart is no doubt good and would get on any other club team in antrim and possibly ulster, club, team. With the county thing you're just getting carried away with yourself though. There's not too many antrim forwards would walk onto several ulster county teams.

McGourty(Kieran) is a very clever distributor of the ball. Not sure he has the athleticisim for county footbal. I don't doubt his footballing ability though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 03, 2009, 07:13:02 PM
Gallsman  :D Not a biased view at all. As Tommy Gunn says he'd get on most club teams in Ulster, but to say he would make most county teams is ludicrous. Would agree that Kieran McGourty deserves a chance, I know he did a few years back but hes come on a lot since then. Would definitely make the panel if he chose football.
Also Gallsman, I wouldn't say O'Boyle is overrated. I remember him tearing St Galls apart in the Championship in Portglenone one year. On his day he was brilliant, but I doubt he'd be able to get that form back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shambo on December 03, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 03, 2009, 07:13:02 PM
Gallsman  :D Not a biased view at all. As Tommy Gunn says he'd get on most club teams in Ulster, but to say he would make most county teams is ludicrous. Would agree that Kieran McGourty deserves a chance, I know he did a few years back but hes come on a lot since then. Would definitely make the panel if he chose football.
Also Gallsman, I wouldn't say O'Boyle is overrated. I remember him tearing St Galls apart in the Championship in Portglenone one year. On his day he was brilliant, but I doubt he'd be able to get that form back.
aye the back door year, and when it came to Casement he had a howler. consistent?

always thought he was a cracker, what age is he now? is he back playing for Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 03, 2009, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: shambo on December 03, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 03, 2009, 07:13:02 PM
Gallsman  :D Not a biased view at all. As Tommy Gunn says he'd get on most club teams in Ulster, but to say he would make most county teams is ludicrous. Would agree that Kieran McGourty deserves a chance, I know he did a few years back but hes come on a lot since then. Would definitely make the panel if he chose football.
Also Gallsman, I wouldn't say O'Boyle is overrated. I remember him tearing St Galls apart in the Championship in Portglenone one year. On his day he was brilliant, but I doubt he'd be able to get that form back.
aye the back door year, and when it came to Casement he had a howler. consistent?

always thought he was a cracker, what age is he now? is he back playing for Cargin?
Thats why I said on his day  ;) Incidentally, I don't think St Galls have played many Championship games in  the country since! Not that it would make much difference if any at all, but I do think they'd prefer playing Cargin in Casement's wide open spaces rather than a tighter pitch.

He'd be about 28 now I'd guess. Na, didn't play for Cargin this season, and haven't heard any word he's going back to them next year. Strange.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
He didn't have a howler at all in casement samba. He had the beating of Andy McLean every time he got the ball. McLean went onto a yellow card and should have been red carded for persistent fouling but somehow managed to stay on. That's what curbed O'Boyle - bad reffing really. That and Cargin were rubbish and couldn't get the ball up to him anywhere near enough.

Not St Galls bashing here. Just saying I don't think 15 of their players should make the county team. 8 or 9 yes...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 04, 2009, 09:19:45 AM
Dare I go so far as to suggest that Karl would be worthy of Paddy Cunningham's place on the Antrim team? Admittedly I don't live in Belfast any more, so I don't see him play too often, but any match I've seen him play either for Antrim or the Lambs, I think his done close to sweet FA apart from hit frees.

In saying that however, I've heard that he was the outstanding player in UUJ's Sigerson a few years ago, so I'll happily accept correction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 04, 2009, 09:39:47 AM
I would agree with you Gallsman but then in his defence he got a few points from play in the Ulster Final, that may be the exception to the rule though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 04, 2009, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2009, 09:19:45 AM
Dare I go so far as to suggest that Karl would be worthy of Paddy Cunningham's place on the Antrim team? Admittedly I don't live in Belfast any more, so I don't see him play too often, but any match I've seen him play either for Antrim or the Lambs, I think his done close to sweet FA apart from hit frees.

In saying that however, I've heard that he was the outstanding player in UUJ's Sigerson a few years ago, so I'll happily accept correction.

You could certainly dare to suggest that alright, but in doing so you would lose any remaining credibility you had on the board.

IMHO, only McLean, Brady, S Kelly and Gallagher have the necessary attitude and ability to be long term successful inter-county players. Niblock would be close and Burke may well be in the future.

Of the others, the three McGourtys have the ability, but not the attitude and O'Neill the attitude, but not the ability.

The rest, including Stewarty have neither.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Olly on December 04, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
Quote from: shambo on December 03, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
Quote from: Olly on December 03, 2009, 12:07:51 AM
The rasen I wouldn't have stewrt or kieran mchourty on the team is because they're hurling men and would better serve that county code. So wind your f**king neck in

wind my F**king neck in??

you obviously haven't played against Karl or seen him play. you must play for the seconds of St Brigids. But yes hurling seems to be his first love, as for Ciaran McGourty, he's more noted for football but a quality hurler also.

You seem to be very limited in your local Gaa knowledge. head you over to the Hogan Stand

did you read what i said. hes more suitable for Antrim to hurling than football and youve agreed with me but dont know it, and thats why id not hve him near the Antrim football  panel. what has playing against him have to do with it anyway, congratulations for playing against him if you have, great achievememt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 04, 2009, 10:10:21 AM
QuoteIn saying that however, I've heard that he was the outstanding player in UUJ's Sigerson a few years ago, so I'll happily accept correction.

He wasn't the main man.  Again, he hit the frees.  The Ulster Final was over when he picked up a few points from play. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 04, 2009, 10:16:46 AM
Sam, perhaps you could enlighten me as to problems with Karl's attitude? Do you simply suggest that because hurling is is first love he doesn't have the required attitude to play football, or do you insinuate something a bit more sinister?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 04, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
I think SS2 should now catch and release, it is the most humane method.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 04, 2009, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2009, 10:16:46 AM
Sam, perhaps you could enlighten me as to problems with Karl's attitude? Do you simply suggest that because hurling is is first love he doesn't have the required attitude to play football, or do you insinuate something a bit more sinister?

Nothing sinister, he's a hurler first and foremost and coupled with a young family, I don't think he has the motivation to commit to senior inter-county football.

Plus I don't think he would make a full strength Antrim side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 04, 2009, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 03, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
He didn't have a howler at all in casement samba. He had the beating of Andy McLean every time he got the ball. McLean went onto a yellow card and should have been red carded for persistent fouling but somehow managed to stay on. That's what curbed O'Boyle - bad reffing really. That and Cargin were rubbish and couldn't get the ball up to him anywhere near enough.

Not St Galls bashing here. Just saying I don't think 15 of their players should make the county team. 8 or 9 yes...
I stand corrected, I don't remember much about that game. Think Cargin were up at half-time maybe? And pretty much didn't come out for second half.

As for Stewart being better than Cunningham, I would say not. I agree that Cunningham is limited in a way, mostly by his lack of pace and ability to win his own ball. However, when he is within shooting distance he is deadly accurate And yes a lot are from frees, but those frees still have to be scored. Good free-takers are under-rated nowadays. What would Fermanagh not do for one!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 04, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 04, 2009, 10:10:21 AM
QuoteIn saying that however, I've heard that he was the outstanding player in UUJ's Sigerson a few years ago, so I'll happily accept correction.

He wasn't the main man.  Again, he hit the frees.  The Ulster Final was over when he picked up a few points from play.

Agree with the stance that the points Cunningham picked up from play were generally when the game was over. It actually galled me slightly that he wasn't thinking of going for goals or looking for a teammate. I think on one occasion Loughrey was better placed for a goal chance when we were a fair bit behind - it smacked a little bit of Paddy building up the total for himself.

I often admire that selfish streak in forwards (they take the shots and take the criticism if it doesn't work out) but when it steps across the line of being bad for the team then I'm not so sure. A good forward analyses a shotting opportunity quicker than others but often shoots on site anyway (he has to do this for LD ALL the time) - a great forward does that but also takes a step back and is often a provider as much as a scorer as he is generally a well marked man (Stephen O'Neill is example no.1).

Actually think Cunningham deserves his spot on the team at the moment for the frees but needs to up his workrate, contribution from play and clinicalness in front of goal.

Great that there are so many options for the county team this year...food for thought in the Bradley household.

PS I seriously think we should be setting our sights to do what Tipp did last year and go straight up again. Might be hopeful but is worth striving for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 04, 2009, 12:18:19 PM
Good post Glensman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on December 04, 2009, 01:01:05 PM
Will CJ be back next year?

Different style, but will he offset the loss of McCann?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on December 04, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 04, 2009, 01:01:05 PM
Will CJ be back next year?

Different style, but will he offset the loss of McCann?

Doubt whether CJ will feature.  Isn't Tomas McCann back from Oz??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2009, 01:23:19 PM
The problem at county level with Cunningham is winning his own ball. If he gets space, for points, he is lethal.

He should have been more clinical against Tyrone going for goals though... Still he scored 11 points so perhaps harsh knocking him!

Definitely merits his place on the team but if CJ McGourty commited I don't think he'd be worth his place. I do think Close merits a place on the team too but there'll all much of a muchness in terms of ball winning ability which is where they fall down.

Is McCann lost Orior? Sure is he not back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 04, 2009, 01:32:13 PM
McCann wasn't offered a rookie contract.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 04, 2009, 01:36:53 PM
Tomas was never going to be offered a contract, Richmond had already used their draft picks. They offered him reduced terms to play for their reserve team in the VFL with a view to a rookie contract next year, but he turned it down. They told him to practise the skills at home and they'd maybe have a look next year anyway.

Don't know whether I'd have Close starting. At the same time, I don't think I'd have CJ and Cunningham on the same side. Tough competeition for places, good to see!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 02, 2010, 03:19:27 PM
First game of the year for Antrim Footballers today - friendly against St. Mary's (i think) - anyone at the game or know the result?  Almost forgot - Happy New Year to the Saffron faithful!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 02, 2010, 07:14:14 PM
They won, not sure how much by. PD played well apparantly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 04, 2010, 11:13:30 AM
Bound to have been a few more at the match??

Heard big Magill played very well (would be great if that man really went for it - arguably free up Michael McCann further out the field) and confirmation that PD did rightly.

Think it was 3 thirds of a match and maybe Antrim did win by a couple but scores were irrelevant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on January 04, 2010, 12:17:44 PM

Lads, can anyone confirm who got relegated from Div 3 in Antrim?  Seems to be a few unplayed fixtures on Antrim website?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 04, 2010, 03:40:04 PM
Got chatting to someone last night who was watching the game and he also confirmed Miceal Magill played very well so if that trend continues that indeed could allow Mick McCann further out the field.  PD was also mentioned as someone who stood out - so at least there are 2 lads more than capable of taking a spot on the team who were not involved last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 04, 2010, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on January 04, 2010, 12:17:44 PM

Lads, can anyone confirm who got relegated from Div 3 in Antrim?  Seems to be a few unplayed fixtures on Antrim website?

Rasharkin & McDermotts are relegated from Div 3 tintin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on January 04, 2010, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 04, 2010, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on January 04, 2010, 12:17:44 PM

Lads, can anyone confirm who got relegated from Div 3 in Antrim?  Seems to be a few unplayed fixtures on Antrim website?

Rasharkin & McDermotts are relegated from Div 3 tintin.

Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 04, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
Great year for Rasharkin in the hurling but it appears to have come at a price with the double relegation in the football.

Fair play to PD who must have been training hard when abroad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 04, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Magill has serious talent. Strong as a bull, good feet and can catch a ball. Need to get his head right though, and keep him off the sup! Good to see PD back, we'll be lacking a bit of height and he has versatility as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on January 04, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Magill has serious talent. Strong as a bull, good feet and can catch a ball. Need to get his head right though, and keep him off the sup! Good to see PD back, we'll be lacking a bit of height and he has versatility as well.

in what positions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 04, 2010, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on January 04, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Magill has serious talent. Strong as a bull, good feet and can catch a ball. Need to get his head right though, and keep him off the sup! Good to see PD back, we'll be lacking a bit of height and he has versatility as well.

in what positions?
Not sure really. But with big Niall gone, we could do with another player who can win clean ball around the middle. Especially with the mark rule, depending on if it stays/works etc. I know we have a few, but you can never have too many.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 04, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on January 04, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Magill has serious talent. Strong as a bull, good feet and can catch a ball. Need to get his head right though, and keep him off the sup! Good to see PD back, we'll be lacking a bit of height and he has versatility as well.

in what positions?

Everything's relative.  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
Agreed samba. will settle on winning this McKenna cup, good position in the league, run Tyrone close and do well in the Qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 05, 2010, 07:06:08 PM
just curious here, who would be the nearest football club to Cushendall?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on January 05, 2010, 07:06:48 PM
Glenravel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 05, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
Agreed samba. will settle on winning this McKenna cup, good position in the league, run Tyrone close and do well in the Qualifiers.
Not all that worried about McKenna cup to be honest. It'd be nice to get a bit of silverware, but it'd be tough without the Galls lads. I'd be happy enough to see a few new faces come through. Hopefully challenge for promotion in the league(won't be easy but look at Tipp last year), as you say give Tyrone a game, and who knows. We'd be highly unlikely to beat them, but a decent qualifier run isn't beyond us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
We need to find more non st galls players capable of playing county football in mckenna cup as we'll be needing them for the league if st galls get to all ireland final and if they don't they won't be in the form to play anyway Would want to be mid table anyway in division 3.

McKenna cup important to blood 3 or 4 players. Magill and Doherty are two good additions well fit to play county though. Hopefully someone like Hasson can step up to the plate to replace McKeever too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
I dont think you lads know exactly how shite the standard is in division 3.
Providing you can reach the heights of last year,even without the galls lads,mid table should be comfortable and then challenge for promotion hopefully after St Patricks day when Galls bring the All Ireland Club back to Ulster.
Offaly
Fermanagh,
Louth
Wexford,
Roscommon
Cavan,   
Sligo

Not a decent side among them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
There is nothing to fear there no doubt but we've definitely nothing to be complacent about either...

With the Galls boys promotion would have been a goal - without I think it's a bit too much. You never know though...

Who's Elizabeth?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2010, 11:38:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
There is nothing to fear there no doubt but we've definitely nothing to be complacent about either...

With the Galls boys promotion would have been a goal - without I think it's a bit too much. You never know though...

Who's Elizabeth?

Yeh,i have my doubts whether you lads can reach last years level, and you may suffer from possible second season syndrome
But on last years showing, you're better than all the other teams in Divsion 3.
I was at all of Cavans league games last year except Offaly away,and the standard of every team  including my own with the exception of Tipp was atrocious.

google Elizabeth Lambert, New Mexico Soccer.
She likes it rough,my type of girl  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2010, 06:30:28 PM
Haha - ah yes I remember her now.

I think we're somewhere in between last year and the year before realistically. The key thing always has been belief which Baker has instilled. There are good footballers in Antrim but there is not enough depth in the club scene. Fortunately for the first time ever we had a team competing at McRory level.(Not particpating but competing) but we need better from underage teams...

Cavan have gone to the dogs for some reason. They had a good batch all of similar age I suppose and just hadn't got what it takes to replace. They always do well without winning in minor. You'd have thought with better management they could be a lot better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 06, 2010, 07:27:23 PM
Thing is Ballyhaise man, there were 6 Galls boys in our starting team last year. Add Niall McKeever and thats almost half our team gone. To be honest we don't have the greatest strength in depth. So the first few league games will be tough, we'll possibly only have the Galls boys for 2-3 games (not sure of fixtures, and depending how they do in their semi).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2010, 05:37:48 PM
Starting salary? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on January 14, 2010, 05:55:00 PM
Jasus it makes my blood boil when I hear about the money senior managers are getting. The fact that clubmen haven't the confidence or ambition to manage their own team is very worrying for the future. I've heard all the arguments and I don't buy any of them. If all these teachers are so under pressure how do they manage it. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on January 15, 2010, 07:03:26 PM
Anyone any idea of what sort of team Antrim will be fielding on Sunday ?

Whos missing aside from the St Galls lads ?  Tomas Mc Cann and Justin Crozier ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 15, 2010, 11:12:50 PM
Sunday will see the beginning of another year and another challenge for Antrim, when they meet Derry in the Mc Kenna Cup. Spectators may take it as a given that steeled determination will certainly be in evidence, when the Senior Football Team run out on to the field at Casement Park on Sunday. Expect this Team to come out fired up for the occasion. your  continuing support and encouragement is important .   

  1 John Finucane
    2 Aaron Douglas
    3 Paul Doherty
    4 Damien Gault
    5 Tony Scullion
    6 Kevin Mc Quillan
    7 James Loughery
    8 Benny Hassan
    9 Neill O' Connell
    10 Brendan Herron
    11 Owen O' Neill
    12 Michael Mc Cann
    13 Paddy Cunningham
    14 Michael Magill
    15 Gerard O' Boyle




Good lot of lads there who didnt play any championship football last year, strong enough team all the same!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2010, 11:33:06 PM
I like the look of that forward line a lot more than the one last year... I couldn't see Owen O'Neill making it (should be Eoin I would think...) but O'Boyle Magill and Herron should be valuable additions. Definitely a lot more physical presence. Is Kevin Brady back this year?

Not sure of McQuillan at CHB - haven't seen him in a few years and he was quite young then but hopefully he'll do well. We still look weak in the FB line but good to see Loughrey and Scullion playing and I hope Benny Hasson starts to deliver on his promise too. Gault was good a few years ago so hopefully he will continue to play like that.

Reads like it's been written by that crazy Laurence man of the country web site...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 16, 2010, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2010, 11:33:06 PM
I like the look of that forward line a lot more than the one last year... I couldn't see Owen O'Neill making it (should be Eoin I would think...) but O'Boyle Magill and Herron should be valuable additions. Definitely a lot more physical presence. Is Kevin Brady back this year?

Not sure of McQuillan at CHB - haven't seen him in a few years and he was quite young then but hopefully he'll do well. We still look weak in the FB line but good to see Loughrey and Scullion playing and I hope Benny Hasson starts to deliver on his promise too. Gault was good a few years ago so hopefully he will continue to play like that.

Reads like it's been written by that crazy Laurence man of the country web site...


legend  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 17, 2010, 05:41:05 PM
Good win today after a poor poor start to the game.  Both midfielders cleaned out in the early stages and taken off pretty quickly, though Antrim never managed a mark for the duration of the game while Derry got several awarded.  Magill was wasteful at times but took his goal really well with a lot of work to do, and also caused plenty of headaches for the derry FB line.  Some great defending in the second half, and overall Antrim should be happy with the performance knowing they can play better than that.  Not sure about G. O'Boyle though he managed to stay on for the whole game he didnt look like much of a scoring threat - when was the last time he played for Cargin?

Hopefully a bit of momentum can be built up after that win, but Down looked decent last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 17, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
Gerard O'Boyle hasn't played for Cargin in 2-3 years. Strange that he's been called up, didn't look up to it today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 17, 2010, 07:27:35 PM
We got cleaned out for most of 1st half at midfield but at least started to break balls after Patsy Bradley had taken 4 marks above his head.

We were 6 -1 down half way through half and looked to be heading for a tanking but luckily got 2 fortunate enough goals from Magill and McCann who both finished well. We looked a bit toothless and couldnt score points from play in 1st half

Magill played well and wa a constant threat, spearheading the attack while P Cunningham scored a great point from play in 2nd half.

O'Boyle didnt do much at all and couldnt believe he stayed on the whole game but then again why not give him a chance--i cant see the point in bringing on Kevin Brady when we all know what he's about--the McKenna cup should be used just to try new players out--not seasoned veterans.

Gaulty was good

Benny Hasson is tall but never got near a ball all day --its worrying when we are gettin cleaned in midfield--we've a lack of big men in our county--Derry brought on Big Joe Diver at the end--we've no men near his size and i dunno if there are any out there.

Mick McCann was v good on the ball dictating the play with his head up but would need to be a good bit taller to be a top, top ball winning midfielder at county level.

We were lucky to win, especially given the jammy, comical goal Close got after a shot for a point came off the bar to magill who's shot from point blank range was saved and Closey (eventually) kicked the rebound in with his right foot off the deck

But any win over Derry (or any county) is more than welcome for us--can anyone remember the last time we beat Derry in any competition at senior level? I cant! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2010, 08:21:01 PM
got to the match late today as we had a challenge game v queens.

but i was very impressed with the tackling and heart that Antrim put in. Bradley has them hypnotised i think!!!! need to get another result on Wed night. pointless beating Derry if we lose on Wed night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on January 17, 2010, 09:16:32 PM
Considering the players Antrim had missing they put on a good show today.  Stand out players for me were Paul Doc and Herron.  Big Magill also proved to be a handful for the Derry defence, i think he will only get better as the league goes on.

Can someone clear this up for me please ... i've been told Gerard O'Boyle hasn't played club football for two or three years but i've also been told he's playing for Dunloy ?   It'd be a strange situation getting a call up for the county team and having no club at all.

Think Down will prove a much sterner test on Wednesday night.  Marty Clarke is supposed to be flying at the minute.  Who would you put on him ? James Loughrey ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Who came on at midfield if the 2 boys were getting cleaned out?

I can't ever remember a win over Derry in football at any level. It says a lot in terms of belief as I haven't ever since an antrim team playing a derry team who've even looked to believe like they could compete.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 18, 2010, 11:54:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 17, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Who came on at midfield if the 2 boys were getting cleaned out?

I can't ever remember a win over Derry in football at any level. It says a lot in terms of belief as I haven't ever since an antrim team playing a derry team who've even looked to believe like they could compete.

I think it was Dara Edwards who replaced Neil O'Connell & Kevin Brady replaced Benny Hasson.  The two lads who started just didn't manage to adjust to the derry tactic of breaking the Antrim kickouts - they were both intent on continuing to try and get a clean catch each time and the Derry lads broke the ball each time.  For his size, I can't believe Hasson was getting out-fielded and didnt claim a single ball when he was on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2010, 08:50:49 PM
Hasson sounded a couple of years ago like he was going to make it as a good player. He doesn't seem to have lived up to that promise at all though. Big chance for him this year with McKeever away. Hope he can take it...

Anyone know the story with O'Boyle? He is an odd selection after a year or two out but on form he's as good as almost anyone we would have in the FF line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 18, 2010, 11:15:04 PM
Championship Draws made tonight and up on the website already;

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2119

Looks like Cargin & St. Gall's kept apart again in SFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2010, 11:38:24 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 18, 2010, 11:15:04 PM
Championship Draws made tonight and up on the website already;

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2119

Looks like Cargin & St. Gall's kept apart again in SFC.

met in the semi final last year. had any sense they would keep them apart till the final, just a thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on January 19, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
The Senior Draw

1   Portglenone   V   Gortnamona
2   Lamh Dhearg   V   Ahoghill
3   Creggan   V   St Pauls
         
      1/4 Finals   
A   3   V   Cargin
B   St Brigids   V   1
C   St Johns   V   2
D   St Galls   V   Moneyglass
         
         
      Semi Finals   
   D      C
   B      A


Good match there in the first round lamh dhearg and ahoghill, the two teams promoted from division 2.  Tie of the round in my opinion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2010, 08:19:46 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on January 19, 2010, 07:56:56 PM
Hard to look beyond St Galls again i have to say but for the sake of Antrim football, a win for Cargin or another club would be good.

New year, new start for us, we should have our eyes on Division 2 title.  Try to get promoted this year and maybe get a scalp against Portglenone in the championship.  With Pollock away looking medals at St Galls, it gives some of our younger fellas a good chance to play.

St Brigids would be worth a bet eachway

why?

and what da fook about Pollock?

never heard that Pollock is looking to play for us, would he get on? what position in the forwards would he get?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 19, 2010, 08:52:52 PM
First I heard about Pollock, is this confirmed? He won't make the St Galls starting team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 20, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
heard 2 stories last night about one of Antrims fav players.1 He has left FF so political career over.2 He is coming back onto the Antrim panel this year .Anyone else hear this? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 20, 2010, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 20, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
heard 2 stories last night about one of Antrims fav players.1 He has left FF so political career over.2 He is coming back onto the Antrim panel this year .Anyone else hear this?

1.  That was quick.  2.  We've been here before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 20, 2010, 06:28:44 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on January 20, 2010, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 20, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
heard 2 stories last night about one of Antrims fav players.1 He has left FF so political career over.2 He is coming back onto the Antrim panel this year .Anyone else hear this?

1.  That was quick.  2.  We've been here before

1. Were they not "professional" enough, were the sandwiches not buttered after meetings?

2. It will end in tears and tantrums. Again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on January 21, 2010, 10:15:43 AM
What was the team last night hs??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 21, 2010, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 21, 2010, 09:59:18 AM
That was hard to watch last night. Some of the basic errors were unreal. Down seemed to have most of their first team out at some stage. We had about 3 or 4 of ours.

It all went downhill when saffron sam weighed in (3 minutes late).

It all went downhill long before that.

I was there in plenty of time, simply doing an Edwin Poots-esque protest at the ongoing attempts by the GAA to slow down Amhrán na bhFiann to the extent that it lasts longer than the game itself.

Yes, the Antrim performance (particularly in the first half) was one of gross ineptitude, as bad as anything I've ever had seen in by an Antrim team and outdone only by the gross ineptitude of referee Martin "Chicken" McErlean (Cargin, Dunloy, Ballinderry).

Things improved a bit in the second half when Antrim stopped playing with a sweeper and Down stopped playing altogether. Only consolation is that I think only 3 of the team that started the Ulster final, started last night.

Team I think was along the lines of

Finuncane (little to do)

Gault (tried hard but was taken for four points by Laverty)
Doherty (did reasonably well on Coulter, but a bit fat)
Boyd (Naomh Eargnaid)

Scullion (did reasonably well)
Carey (not great)
Loughrey (did well, particularly when moved to chf for the second half)

Hasson (did better than I thought he would, but still a long way short)
Edwards (largely anonymous)

Close (not in it, still loooks too much like Tintin)
Herron (too slow, no real contribution)
Somebody else.

Cunningham (unerring with frees, couple of superb scores from play)
Magill (one speccy, looks reasonably sharp and will do a good job if he commits)
O'Boyle (worth another look)

Subs

Eoin O'Neill (don't think he's up to it)
Gerard Walls (not up to it)
Neil O'Connell (did well, got a super goal, I think)
McCann (not on long enough to be rated)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 21, 2010, 11:59:39 AM
Is Justy Crozier injured at the minute as I see he wasn't playing for Queen's last night? Is he still a student?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 21, 2010, 12:03:30 PM
Listed in the Queen's squad anyway.

That fist pass rule is an absolute farce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2010, 01:32:16 PM
You didn't really pass much comment on the left corner back Sam... Any reason for this? (i.e. was he rubbish?)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyGK on January 21, 2010, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 21, 2010, 11:59:39 AM
Is Justy Crozier injured at the minute as I see he wasn't playing for Queen's last night? Is he still a student?

Think Crozier and a few other lads had to pull out of Queens squad last night cos of exams this morning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 21, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 21, 2010, 01:32:16 PM
You didn't really pass much comment on the left corner back Sam... Any reason for this? (i.e. was he rubbish?)

Genuinely didn't know he was on until he was being taken off (about 20 - 25 minutes in). I think he was the first one substituted. Was playing more as a half back (Down had two man full forward line) so he just got lost in the mass of bodies round the middle. Had he been rubbish, I would probably have said as much.

Quite a short name also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 21, 2010, 07:06:12 PM
Ryan Boyd wouldn't have been playing corner back. He's a fullforward for Moneyglass, but think he was playing halfforward last night but taken off about 20-25 mins in. Cornerback was listed in Irish News as Gough, no idea who that is.

You haven't been to many Antrim games over the years if that was the worst you've seen an Antrim team play. Queens last year anyone? From what I hear were bad first half, but I've seen a lot worse and its a much understrength team in the McKenna cup. To say Doherty looks fat is la bit harsh, the lad is only back from Oz, he's not going to be completely fit!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 21, 2010, 09:51:29 PM
''saffronsam

Team I think was along the lines of

Finuncane (little to do)

Gault (tried hard but was taken for four points by Laverty)
Doherty (did reasonably well on Coulter, but a bit fat)
Boyd (Naomh Eargnaid)

Scullion (did reasonably well)
Carey (not great)
Loughrey (did well, particularly when moved to chf for the second half)

Hasson (did better than I thought he would, but still a long way short)
Edwards (largely anonymous)

Close (not in it, still loooks too much like Tintin)
Herron (too slow, no real contribution)
Somebody else.

Cunningham (unerring with frees, couple of superb scores from play)
Magill (one speccy, looks reasonably sharp and will do a good job if he commits)
O'Boyle (worth another look)

Subs

Eoin O'Neill (don't think he's up to it)
Gerard Walls (not up to it)
Neil O'Connell (did well, got a super goal, I think)
McCann (not on long enough to rate)''

saffronsam, your probably the same fella who was in uproar this time last year when baker was appointed.
give the fellas a chance, thats if you know their names,lol.
think it was gault and douglas of st johns corner backs, with paul doc at full back-fat i hear you say, as nana would say, what a f**king liberty!!
not since colin corkery have i seen a fat senior county player!!
some fat heads all the same.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 22, 2010, 08:34:48 AM
Not easy with all the new faces and strange numbering to identify all the players. Spent nearly as much time looking at the list in the programme. Didn't realise Douglas was on and only realised Boyd was on when he was being taken off. Whether he lined out at corner back or half forward my synopsis of his performance remains the same.

As for the rest of the players, again I stand over my comments. I have been quite restrained in my comments about the individual players in the knowledge that a) they were playing to a system b) they were all trying their hardest for the saffron cause and c) some of them are not of inter-county standard. The first half performance of gross ineptitude was down partly to employing a sweeper system (which obviously wasn't working - that much was clear from the 4th minute) and partly to Down fielding a much, much stronger side (9 or 10 of whom had played championship last year). Nowhere have I singled out a player and accused him of gross ineptitude.

I have already had a portly Lamh Dhearg work colleague visit me this morning to complain about what I wrote regarding Brendan Herron. I've seen Brendan Herron often enough to know he is a good footballer, but on Wednesday's performance he appeared off the pace and still has some way to go before he'll be a regular in the starting fifteen.

Come championship time, I wouldn't expect more than 5 or 6 of the Antrim starting 15 from Wednesday to feature.

As for Mr Doherty, you boys who are backing him up obviously weren't about for longball's night of shock and awe earlier this year. If it is known that you lurk or post on gaaboard, then you're good for a bit of banter.

culchie11, a wee bit confused by your inability to use the quote function, but yes, 'twas me who was most aggrieved by Bradley's appointment last year. Again I stand over the reasons for my opposition to Mr Bradley's appointment. Folk will say that results have proved me wrong; I will say that results haven't totally proved me wrong. I would say they have simply shown the footballing talent that is available within Antrim and what Antrim could really do with a top class manager.

Hope this helps.

There is nothing overly critical in what I've written about any of the players; they're all better than me. I've seen much worse written in the Irish News ratings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 24, 2010, 09:07:45 PM
Anyone at the game today?

Who started, who came on and who scored?

I've been priced out of attending
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 25, 2010, 03:33:27 PM
Was looking at the Irish News back page this morning and they have the final group standings from the McKenna Cup printed.  One statistic jumped off the page at me and i had to look again in disbelief.  Antrim were the only team not to concede a goal in the group stages.  Big big difference from last few years!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
Good statistic Aontroim.

That's good reading for a new FB line.

Whiel maybe we didn't set the world alight we won 2 out of 3. I'd be happy enough with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Davittgac on January 29, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
CHARLIE AND THE BHOYS

Charlie and the Bhoys will be appearing in Michael Davitt's GAC social club on Friday 5th March.

Tickets for the night are available at £10 each with special deals available on request for group bookings.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us either via this forum or
the club website - www.michaeldavittgac.com

Check out CATB website for videos, general info etc. on
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 29, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Davittgac on January 29, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
CHARLIE AND THE BHOYS

Charlie and the Bhoys will be appearing in Michael Davitt's GAC social club on Friday 5th March.

Tickets for the night are available at £10 each with special deals available on request for group bookings.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us either via this forum or
the club website - www.michaeldavittgac.com

Check out CATB website for videos, general info etc. on
http://www.charlieandthebhoys.co.uk/index35.htm

I have a question. Why do you feel the need to post this spam on multiple threads?

I have another question. You registered to post that. Why?

Your post annoys me. I thought it was someone from the real Davitt's.

Start a thread called CHARLIE AND THE BHOYS and post your guff there. Leave the other threads to what it says in the title.

Best regards

saffron sam2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on January 29, 2010, 01:57:54 PM


I have a question. Why do you feel the need to post this spam on multiple threads? So people are aware of the event

I have another question. You registered to post that. Why? To tell people about the event

Your post annoys me. I thought it was someone from the real Davitt's. It is the real davitts

Start a thread called CHARLIE AND THE BHOYS and post your guff there. Leave the other threads to what it says in the title.

Best regards

saffron sam2.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 01, 2010, 02:09:37 PM
Which teams do Antrim at home in the league?  Might go and have a look at them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 118cmal on February 02, 2010, 12:11:32 PM
fermanagh is one anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 02, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
At home to Sligo this Sunday - a must win to start with and a good test for the squad minus St. Gall's players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 03, 2010, 09:26:56 AM
Benny Tierney in todays Irish News says that CJ has been welcomed back into the Antrim fold,did anyone hear anything about this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 03, 2010, 09:32:17 AM
It was in yesterday's Irish News as well. Hachet must have been buried.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 03, 2010, 09:56:16 AM
Hope he has learned to behave,good player and def could be asset,think it has to be his last chance 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on February 03, 2010, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: glens abu on February 03, 2010, 09:26:56 AM
Benny Tierney in todays Irish News says that CJ has been welcomed back into the Antrim fold,did anyone hear anything about this?
Aye it was in yesterday' paper as well. He'll be back after St Galls finish. Doesn't mention Sean Kelly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 03, 2010, 10:30:09 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on February 03, 2010, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: glens abu on February 03, 2010, 09:26:56 AM
Benny Tierney in todays Irish News says that CJ has been welcomed back into the Antrim fold,did anyone hear anything about this?
Aye it was in yesterday' paper as well. He'll be back after St Galls finish. Doesn't mention Sean Kelly.

I thought Kelly already said he was coming back this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 03, 2010, 01:13:18 PM
Kelly is already back on the panel (after Gall's commitments) was told from other players he has been to the team meetings etc at the start of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on February 07, 2010, 06:01:55 PM
Great to get the two points today as it could have either way in the final minutes.
Slow start as always to go 3-0 down but after 15minutes we started to win midfield and finished the half strongly.  Slow start again in second half but tagged on a few more points and held on.  Crozier was my man of the match.  Also was impressed with G O'Boyle when he came on, looked sharp.  Douglas steadied the defence when he came on early in the second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2010, 08:51:17 PM
Great result minus the st galls contingent. Didn't make it to the fame.

Who did we have in midfield alongside McCann? I didn't catch the team. This is all I know...

McGreevey, McCann, Doherty, O'Boyle, Scullion, Crozier, ??, McCann, ???, T McCann, ?, Loughrey, Cunningham, Magill, O'Connell

Can anyone fill in the blanks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2010, 09:35:50 PM
Small half forward line...

Any reports on who played well?

Be interested to know how Brendy Herron and O'Hagan got on... Some back up for midfield would be good. I'd like to see Mick McCann CHF if Magill works out at FF so hoping we get a midfield partner for Gallagher from this league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 07, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2010, 09:35:50 PM
Small half forward line...

Any reports on who played well?

Be interested to know how Brendy Herron and O'Hagan got on... Some back up for midfield would be good. I'd like to see Mick McCann CHF if Magill works out at FF so hoping we get a midfield partner for Gallagher from this league.

Brendan Herron got MOM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 07, 2010, 11:16:45 PM
Cant believe Herron got MOM. I would have gave it to Scullion--he never stopped.

Mick McCann hit a couple of great scores in the 1st half from distance.

Magill started ok winning ball but faded.

O'Hagan did rightly, scored Antrims first point and was steady on the ball.

David Kelly for Sligo was an absolute flyer--he was out in front of O'Boyle to every ball and made them tick although i dont think he scored and put his only shot wide.

McGreevy --safe, no shots to save but caught a couple of ball no problem. Was half blocked down at one stage near the end tho tryin to clear a ball--but couldnt fault him

D McCann--let 3 balls slip through his hands when not under pressure
P Doherty--Ok, not bad, took off near start of 2nd half when i thought O'Boyle should've went off
K O'Boyle--2nd to every ball bar one (when Kelly was looking it over the top) cant be faulted as noone could stick with Kelly's pace but for me he was too nice --standing behind him and not laying a hand on him (would Ricey or Francie have done the same? Naive)

Scullion--never stopped, hard into the tackle --still kicks when he could give a simple handpass but in fairness most of his kicks were accurate --My MOM
Crozier--On the front foot on the ball, always driving forward, got his foot hand in etc and was on the whole great
O'Hagan--Scored good first point, steady on the ball, didnt see too much of the ball however (his man may have scored 0-7 by my count but these were nearly all frees)

McCann--was very good, scored 2 great points (at least) doesnt win enough clean high catches for me though but is a great foil for a massive ball winning midfielder --his best position is midfield tho i think
Herron--was good, worked hard--took one great high catch when stayed in front of his man (as you always should when you are smaller ,something McCann doesnt do ,McCann tries his big run to get the knee up over the back of someone, this works at club, but at county if your smaller you have to stand in front, easiest way not to give away a clean catch)

Close --worked hard, hit one good point near end of 1st half--busy
Tomas--worked hard also, non stop but not his best day--with a couple to go and the sides level he was running through the middle and seemed to be dragged down but to the crowds astonishment no free was given --the ref realised his mistake and gave us a free straight after when we shot wide (think it was G O'Boyle) and he was minimally touched (never a free. Not Tomas' best day he'll suit the harder turf later on in year. Still too small to throw boys outta the way at this time of year and really penetrate defence.
Loughrey--worked hard, made scores and made a few interceptions. I think he should run more at players when he's on the ball as he wont be stopped--he takes the safe option to often. Half back is his best position but is needed in the forward line as he provides much needed penetration.

P Cunningham --did ok --didnt see too much of ball but prob ended up with 1-4 --scored the pen after Scullion was pushed by keeper when shooting. Scored a few frees and the eventual winner(i'm nearly sure) from out on the left from a tight
angle
Magill--won a fair bit of ball in front of McGuire which is good going and generally used it well apart from one stupid left foot shot when he should have passed --seemed to pull up near end of 1st half and only lasted about 15 of 2nd.
O'Connell--worked hard but wasnt his day, slipped and dropped possession when he looked to have won it a few times --replaced in 2nd half

subs
Douglas (for P Doherty) came on start on 2nd half and did well --found going tough enough against speedy Stepehen Coen but generally did good
Murray (for O'Connell) did ok but didnt see much ball
G O'Boyle (for Magill) came on and immedietely scored a great point at the end of a great move. Then kicked a shot short and did nothing else
K Brady (for Close i think) touched the ball about once and moved it on

Was a great win but could have gone either way-we had all early possession but couldnt score and then went 0-3 down. We then came back to equalise got the goal and went 6 up 1 min before half time but gave up 2 cheap points to go in 4 up.

We stopped dead in 2nd half when we should have pushed on. Cleaned at midfield with Kelly out in front time after time. We struggled bigtime for scores and never looked like scoring. We only scored about 4 in 2nd half --a couple of rees and those from O'Boyle and P Cunningham.

Great win but never secure a it should have been after we went 6 up.

Still though great that Antrim have stopped snatching defeat (or draws like Offaly 2 year ago) from the jaws of victory
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2010, 11:29:42 PM
Yeah - good man Gold.

Exactly what I was hoping for.

Sounds like midfield faded. With Magill going off there'd have been a lack of ball winner in FF line.

Your man Kelly is an absolute flying machine but O'Boyle, to me, isn't near aggressive enough anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 11:38:32 PM
Hands my GL captain so good man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on February 08, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
I reckon Justy was MOTM. Brilliant display. Most defenders would struggle with kelly, he tore Kerry apart last year, and O'Boyle doesn't really have the nastiness in him that McMenamin has. Francie was mentioned by someone as well, but Francie wouldn't have been to mark the speedster like Kelly.

I wouldn't have said PD did ok, I thought him and O'Boyle got a bit of a roasting actually. Granted, they were 2 good players they were on, but Tyrone will have even better players. Magill took a knock which excuses him fading a bit in the 2nd half. G O'Boyle as was said took a great score but then missed a couple. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: dodgy umpire on February 11, 2010, 11:44:55 AM
Could someone please give me directions to st.pauls from the Bot within the next hour please? Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 11, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: dodgy umpire on February 11, 2010, 11:44:55 AM
Could someone please give me directions to st.pauls from the Bot within the next hour please? Thanks

Up the Malone to House of Sport roundabout.

Take second exit off roundabout for Upper Malone Road (Dub pitches on your left).

Conitnue along Upper Malone Road past shops at Dub Lane.

At the top of the hill turn right onto Finaghy Road South. So straight along here, through the traffic lights onto Finaghy Road North. Go to the end of Finaghy Road North. Turn left onto Stewartstown Road. Take second turn right onto Shaw's Road (If you pass St Genevieve's you've gone too far).

Go up Shaw's Road past the shops and Kelstar. Turn left into St. Paul's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: dodgy umpire on February 11, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
Brilliant. Cheers saffron!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on February 11, 2010, 01:30:34 PM
SS that is an arse about face set of directions. 

Why not turn down Balmoral avenue and up kennedy way to Andy town.  Much faster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 11, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
Anyone travelling on sat nite to Cavan? They hit some score against Ros after a poor McKenna Cup.

Seanie J is missing though but without him they might play better as a team up front.

Cavan will be looking revenge after last years championship but i hope we can push on, get the win and push for promotion.

I'm sitting on the fence though i couldnt call it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 12, 2010, 08:04:14 AM
Quote from: rashCharacter on February 11, 2010, 01:30:34 PM
SS that is an arse about face set of directions. 

Why not turn down Balmoral avenue and up kennedy way to Andy town.  Much faster.

Quite possibly is yes, if you are travelling at three in the morning.

Or if you're on a motor bike.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ziggysego on February 13, 2010, 03:55:11 AM
Good Luck to Dunloy this weekend in the All-Ireland Senior Semi-Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2010, 08:13:53 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on February 13, 2010, 03:55:11 AM
Good Luck to Dunloy this weekend in the All-Ireland Senior Semi-Final.

The thread police have arrived.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on February 13, 2010, 05:44:11 PM
Any team news?  Expecting a tight one but going to have faith and say antrim by 2 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 13, 2010, 11:44:51 PM
Antrim by 8 pts - sounds like another decent performance against Cavan in Breffni - keep that momentum going and you never know there could be a sniff of another promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 14, 2010, 01:40:25 PM
CJ McGourty discusses his return to the Antrim county panel.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8511672.stm

While I think CJ is a big boost to the panel in terms of his talent, I wouldn't say he's exactly busting to get back!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 14, 2010, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 14, 2010, 04:15:12 PM
Fantastic win. Fair fcuks to Baker and the lads. Great stuff.

Brought back to earth. 

Wasn't at it but Cavan posters on the Cavan thread "fierce" disappointed.  Are Antrim gearing up for a good season?  Any crumbs for Cavan supporters?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 14, 2010, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 14, 2010, 04:15:12 PM
Fantastic win. Fair fcuks to Baker and the lads. Great stuff.

Brought back to earth. 

Wasn't at it but Cavan posters on the Cavan thread "fierce" disappointed.  Are Antrim gearing up for a good season?  Any crumbs for Cavan supporters?

1st half both teams fairly evenly matched.
2nd half, Antrims running game , support play and sheer athleticism just cut Cavan open,running in packs of 3/4 straight through the heart of Cavans defense,Just like last Sumer,Their Cavan markers couldnt seem to catch them. Antrim well worth their 8 point win in the end.
Paddy Cunningham very impressive from frees and open play.

Disappointed that Carr still hasnt come up with a way to stop that type of game.
Many more type of performances like that second half performance and Tommy will be getting his P45 before too long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on February 15, 2010, 10:17:47 PM
Wasn't at the game lads, so can't really comment on the Cavan performance. From what I hear, our superior fitness was the difference, we've a few great athletes in our side. Heard Tomas McCann was flying as well, and Cavan didn't know how to stop him.

Overall, things are looking bright, but its early days. Another victory would put us in a great position, but if we were to lose a couple we'd be in the relegation mix, its that close. We have the disadvantage of playing the extra away game. Still, got to have faith, keep it up lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 13aside on February 20, 2010, 07:42:10 AM
Good luck to ST.GALLS in their all-Ireland semi-final against Corofin tomorrow, i hope they do Antrim and Ulster proud and qualify for the final on ST.PATRICKS day!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2010, 10:53:51 PM
Yep, good luck to St Gall's. Hope they've been on the sunbeds this week. TV cameras can be harsh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2010, 08:51:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2010, 04:55:46 PM
Good luck to St.Gall's.

A bit shite that the Carlow match is on at the same time.
Pretty thick snow in Armagh today. What's the story for these matches today? Still on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on February 21, 2010, 09:16:12 AM
Good luck to St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2010, 09:53:57 AM
Galls game off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2010, 05:42:51 PM
St Galls game this Saturday evening in Parnell at 7.30pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on February 22, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Is it on tv?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on February 22, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Is it on tv?

Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on February 25, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
Quote from: Beo on February 25, 2010, 07:54:10 PM
The  Ants hit back with a goal and two points.

You got a latest score? Any idea off team line outs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Davittgac on February 27, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 29, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Davittgac on January 29, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
CHARLIE AND THE BHOYS

Charlie and the Bhoys will be appearing in Michael Davitt's GAC social club on Friday 5th March.

Tickets for the night are available at £10 each with special deals available on request for group bookings.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us either via this forum or
the club website - www.michaeldavittgac.com

Check out CATB website for videos, general info etc. on
http://www.charlieandthebhoys.co.uk/index35.htm

I have a question. Why do you feel the need to post this spam on multiple threads?

I have another question. You registered to post that. Why?

Your post annoys me. I thought it was someone from the real Davitt's.

Start a thread called CHARLIE AND THE BHOYS and post your guff there. Leave the other threads to what it says in the title.

Best regards

saffron sam2.

Sorry to cause any offense to you Saffronsam2.

Thanks for the inadvertent publicly by high lighting the event.

Kind regards,

Michael Davitt's GAC, Swatragh, Co. Derry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 27, 2010, 06:53:14 PM
good luck st galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 28, 2010, 11:33:32 PM
I see the dates for the leagues are out, last league game is end of august then championship final at the end of september. Thank f**k teams wont be playing league games at the end of November this year again, cant see why it couldnt have sorted years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on March 01, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 28, 2010, 11:33:32 PM
I see the dates for the leagues are out, last league game is end of august then championship final at the end of september. Thank f**k teams wont be playing league games at the end of November this year again, cant see why it couldnt have sorted years ago.
I guarantee they will be. Every year is the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 01, 2010, 03:12:47 PM
Cutoff date was stuck to last year Samba (even though it was late Nov) - what makes you think it won't happen this time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 02, 2010, 11:44:00 PM
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Tickets available from the Wild Duck or Cards & Candy in Portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2010, 11:00:27 AM
Any team news for saturday night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 05, 2010, 02:46:38 PM
Antrim Division 1 Football                  

Round 1   14-Apr         Round 2   18-Apr   
St. Brigids    v    Portglenone      St. Brigids    v    St. Johns
Ahoghill    v    Lámh Dhearg      St. Pauls    v    Creggan
Creggan    v    Cargin      Moneyglass    v    Ahoghill
St. Johns    v    St. Galls      St. Galls    v    Portglenone
St. Pauls    v    Moneyglass      Cargin    v    Lámh Dhearg

Round 3   28-Apr         Round 4   02-May   
Creggan    v    St. Brigids      St. Galls    v    St. Brigids
Ahoghill    v    St. Johns      Moneyglass    v    Cargin
Portglenone    v    St. Pauls      St. Pauls    v    Lámh Dhearg
Lámh Dhearg    v    Moneyglass      St. Johns    v    Portglenone
Cargin    v    St. Galls      Creggan    v    Ahoghill

Round 5   05-May         Round 6   26-May   
St. Brigids    v    Moneyglass      St. Pauls    v    St. Brigids
St. Galls    v    St. Pauls      St. Johns    v    Moneyglass
Cargin    v    St. Johns      Creggan    v    St. Galls
Lámh Dhearg    v    Creggan      Ahoghill    v    Cargin
Portglenone    v    Ahoghill      Portglenone    v    Lámh Dhearg

Round 7   29-May         Round 8   02-Jun   
Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Brigids      St. Brigids    v    Cargin
Cargin    v    Portglenone      Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Galls
St. Galls    v    Ahoghill      Portglenone    v    Moneyglass
Moneyglass    v    Creggan      Ahoghill    v    St. Pauls
St. Pauls    v    St. Johns      Creggan    v    St. Johns

Round 9   09-Jun         Round 10   16-Jun   
St. Brigids    v    Ahoghill      Portglenone    v    St. Brigids
Creggan    v    Portglenone      Lámh Dhearg    v    Ahoghill
St. Johns    v    Lámh Dhearg      Cargin    v    Creggan
St. Pauls    v    Cargin      St. Galls    v    St. Johns
Moneyglass    v    St. Galls      Moneyglass    v    St. Pauls

Round 11   27-Jun         Round 12   04-Jul   
St. Johns    v    St. Brigids      St. Brigids    v    Creggan
Creggan    v    St. Pauls      St. Johns    v    Ahoghill
Ahoghill    v    Moneyglass      St. Pauls    v    Portglenone
Portglenone    v    St. Galls      Moneyglass    v    Lámh Dhearg
Lámh Dhearg    v    Cargin      St. Galls    v    Cargin

Round 13   11-Jul         Round 14   14-Jul   
St. Brigids    v    St. Galls      Moneyglass    v    St. Brigids
Cargin    v    Moneyglass      St. Pauls    v    St. Galls
Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Pauls      St. Johns    v    Cargin
Portglenone    v    St. Johns      Creggan    v    Lámh Dhearg
Ahoghill    v    Creggan      Ahoghill    v    Portglenone

Round 15   21-Jul         Round 16   25-Jul   
St. Brigids    v    St. Pauls      St. Brigids    v    Lámh Dhearg
Moneyglass    v    St. Johns      Portglenone    v    Cargin
St. Galls    v    Creggan      Ahoghill    v    St. Galls
Cargin    v    Ahoghill      Creggan    v    Moneyglass
Lámh Dhearg    v    Portglenone      St. Johns    v    St. Pauls

Round 17   28-Jul         Round 18   25-Aug   
Cargin    v    St. Brigids      Ahoghill    v    St. Brigids
St. Galls    v    Lámh Dhearg      Portglenone    v    Creggan
Moneyglass    v    Portglenone      Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Johns
St. Pauls    v    Ahoghill      Cargin    v    St. Pauls
St. Johns    v    Creggan      St. Galls    v    Moneyglass


Antrim Division 2 Football                  

Round 1   14-Apr         Round 2   18-Apr   
Rasharkin    v    Davitts      Aldergrove    v    Rasharkin
Dunloy    v    Aldergrove      All Saints    v    Davitts
Rossa    v    All Saints      Glenavy    v    Dunloy
Aghagallon    v    Glenavy      Sarsfields    v    Rossa
Gort Na Móna    v    Sarsfields      Gort Na Móna    v    Aghagallon
                  
Round 3   28-Apr         Round 4   02-May   
Rasharkin    v    All Saints      Glenavy    v    Rasharkin
Aldergrove    v    Glenavy      Sarsfields    v    All Saints
Davitts    v    Sarsfields      Gort Na Móna    v    Aldergrove
Dunloy    v    Gort Na Móna      Aghagallon    v    Davitts
Rossa    v    Aghagallon      Rossa    v    Dunloy
                  
Round 5   05-May         Round 6   26-May   
Rasharkin    v    Sarsfields      Gort Na Móna    v    Rasharkin
Glenavy    v    Gort Na Móna      Aghagallon    v    Sarsfields
All Saints    v    Aghagallon      Rossa    v    Glenavy
Aldergrove    v    Rossa      Dunloy    v    All Saints
Davitts    v    Dunloy      Davitts    v    Aldergrove

Round 7   29-May         Round 8   02-Jun   
Rasharkin    v    Aghagallon      Rossa    v    Rasharkin
Gort Na Móna    v    Rossa      Dunloy    v    Aghagallon
Sarsfields    v    Dunloy      Davitts    v    Gort Na Móna
Glenavy    v    Davitts      Aldergrove    v    Sarsfields
All Saints    v    Aldergrove      All Saints    v    Glenavy
                  
Round 9   09-Jun         Round 10   16-Jun   
Rasharkin    v    Dunloy      Davitts    v    Rasharkin
Rossa    v    Davitts      Aldergrove    v    Dunloy
Aghagallon    v    Aldergrove      All Saints    v    Rossa
Gort Na Móna    v    All Saints      Glenavy    v    Aghagallon
Sarsfields    v    Glenavy      Sarsfields    v    Gort Na Móna

Round 11   27-Jun         Round 12   04-Jul   
Rasharkin    v    Aldergrove      All Saints    v    Rasharkin
Davitts    v    All Saints      Glenavy    v    Aldergrove
Dunloy    v    Glenavy      Sarsfields    v    Davitts
Rossa    v    Sarsfields      Gort Na Móna    v    Dunloy
Aghagallon    v    Gort Na Móna      Aghagallon    v    Rossa
                  
Round 13   11-Jul         Round 14   14-Jul   
Rasharkin    v    Glenavy      Sarsfields    v    Rasharkin
All Saints    v    Sarsfields      Gort Na Móna    v    Glenavy
Aldergrove    v    Gort Na Móna      Aghagallon    v    All Saints
Davitts    v    Aghagallon      Rossa    v    Aldergrove
Dunloy    v    Rossa      Dunloy    v    Davitts
                  
Round 15   21-Jul         Round 16   25-Jul   
Rasharkin    v    Gort Na Móna      Aghagallon    v    Rasharkin
Sarsfields    v    Aghagallon      Rossa    v    Gort Na Móna
Glenavy    v    Rossa      Dunloy    v    Sarsfields
All Saints    v    Dunloy      Davitts    v    Glenavy
Aldergrove    v    Davitts      Aldergrove    v    All Saints

Round 17   28-Jul         Round 18   25-Aug   
Rasharkin    v    Rossa      Dunloy    v    Rasharkin
Aghagallon    v    Dunloy      Davitts    v    Rossa
Gort Na Móna    v    Davitts      Aldergrove    v    Aghagallon
Sarsfields    v    Aldergrove      All Saints    v    Gort Na Móna
Glenavy    v    All Saints      Glenavy    v    Sarsfields


Antrim Division 3 Football                  

Round 1   14-Mar         Round 2   21-Mar   
Ardoyne    v    Cargin 2      St. Galls 2    v    Ardoyne
St. Endas    v    St. Galls 2      St. Agnes    v    Cargin 2
McDermotts    v    St. Agnes      St. Teresas    v    St. Endas
Glenravel    v    St. Teresas      Eire Óg    v    McDermotts
Tír Na nÓg    v    Eire Óg      Tír Na nÓg    v    Glenravel

Round 3   28-Mar         Round 4   11-Apr   
Ardoyne    v    St. Agnes      Ardoyne    v    Glenravel
St. Galls 2    v    St. Teresas      Tír Na nÓg    v    McDermotts
Cargin 2    v    Eire Óg      Eire Óg    v    St. Endas
St. Endas    v    Tír Na nÓg      St. Teresas    v    Cargin 2
McDermotts    v    Glenravel      St. Agnes    v    St. Galls 2

Round 5   14-Apr         Round 6   18-Apr   
Ardoyne    v    Eire Óg      Tír Na nÓg    v    Ardoyne
St. Teresas    v    Tír Na nÓg      Glenravel    v    Eire Óg
St. Agnes    v    Glenravel      McDermotts    v    St. Teresas
St. Galls 2    v    McDermotts      St. Endas    v    St. Agnes
Cargin 2    v    St. Endas      Cargin 2    v    St. Galls 2

Round 7   28-Apr         Round 8   02-May   
St. Teresas    v    Ardoyne      McDermotts    v    Ardoyne
Eire Óg    v    St. Agnes      St. Endas    v    Glenravel
Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Galls 2      Cargin 2    v    Tír Na nÓg
Glenravel    v    Cargin 2      St. Galls 2    v    Eire Óg
McDermotts    v    St. Endas      St. Agnes    v    St. Teresas

Round 9   05-May         Round 10   26-May   
Ardoyne    v    St. Endas      Cargin 2    v    Ardoyne
McDermotts    v    Cargin 2      St. Galls 2    v    St. Endas
Glenravel    v    St. Galls 2      St. Agnes    v    McDermotts
Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Agnes      St. Teresas    v    Glenravel
Eire Óg    v    St. Teresas      Eire Óg    v    Tír Na nÓg

Round 11   29-May         Round 12   02-Jun   
Ardoyne    v    St. Galls 2      St. Agnes    v    Ardoyne
Cargin 2    v    St. Agnes      St. Teresas    v    St. Galls 2
St. Endas    v    St. Teresas      Eire Óg    v    Cargin 2
McDermotts    v    Eire Óg      Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Endas
Glenravel    v    Tír Na nÓg      Glenravel    v    McDermotts

Round 13   09-Jun         Round 14   16-Jun   
Glenravel    v    Ardoyne      Eire Óg    v    Ardoyne
McDermotts    v    Tír Na nÓg      Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Teresas
St. Endas    v    Eire Óg      Glenravel    v    St. Agnes
Cargin 2    v    St. Teresas      McDermotts    v    St. Galls 2
St. Galls 2    v    St. Agnes      St. Endas    v    Cargin 2

Round 15   27-Jun         Round 16   04-Jul   
Ardoyne    v    Tír Na nÓg      Ardoyne    v    St. Teresas
Eire Óg    v    Glenravel      St. Agnes    v    Eire Óg
St. Teresas    v    McDermotts      St. Galls 2    v    Tír Na nÓg
St. Agnes    v    St. Endas      Cargin 2    v    Glenravel
St. Galls 2    v    Cargin 2      St. Endas    v    McDermotts

Round 17   11-Jul         Round 18   14-Jul   
Ardoyne    v    McDermotts      St. Endas    v    Ardoyne
Glenravel    v    St. Endas      Cargin 2    v    McDermotts
Tír Na nÓg    v    Cargin 2      St. Galls 2    v    Glenravel
Eire Óg    v    St. Galls 2      St. Agnes    v    Tír Na nÓg
St. Teresas    v    St. Agnes      St. Teresas    v    Eire Óg


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 06, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
0-16--0-8
A great win!

These glory days are brilliant!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on March 06, 2010, 11:42:36 PM
Great result alright.. good to see Antrim pushing and showing 2009 wasn't a one year wonder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 08, 2010, 09:56:55 AM
Tis a great morning to be an Antrim man in Fermanagh ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2010, 10:01:42 AM
Is Pollock from Gort Na Mona transferring to St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 08, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 08, 2010, 10:01:42 AM
Is Pollock from Gort Na Mona transferring to St Galls?

Already a done deal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2010, 04:39:39 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 08, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 08, 2010, 10:01:42 AM
Is Pollock from Gort Na Mona transferring to St Galls?

Already a done deal.

What reasons could he possibly give, other than glory hunting ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2010, 07:50:36 PM
I personally don't know the lad, but moving from another club to try and fit into a successfull team will be tough. he could struggle to get on the team. but with a few of the fringe players at an age of retiring he may get to play a few league games and sub appearances at championship level.

not too sure Minder of his 'reasons' for leaving i think these decisions usually come around from club fall outs

What are players to do if they feel they can't play for their home club? stop playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2010, 08:40:03 PM
It can be very convenient to fall out with your club if you are looking a move to a successful club. No time for fellas that do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 09, 2010, 11:19:13 AM
If true, I don't agree with this move at all.

Pollock was very, very good at underage, although that may have had plenty to do with his relative size back then. Hasn't really come on the way some other bright young prospects from the county have- CJ, Crozier, McCann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 09, 2010, 01:54:11 PM
The transfer is definitely through - was announced at the last county committee meeting, as well as about 20 transfers headed to O'Donnells!  Amazing what turning a big profit can do to a club  ;) - said in jest of course!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on March 09, 2010, 02:16:55 PM
all transfers can be seen on http://www.gaa.ie/page/archives.html

thats for end of 2009 and 2010
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 09, 2010, 03:09:59 PM
Anyone give a run down of performances of game on sat.  Did i read correctly scullion was half forward - cunningham must of been very good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2010, 08:34:48 PM
Othar - here's my viewpoint...

McGreevey - nothing much to do at all. Kickouts solid.
Dermot McCann - again not much to do. Honestly my jury would still be out on him but would like to see him tested more.
Douglas - I think, think, he was marking Carson. Did not bad - marshalled him well but Carson won a few balls of him.
O'Boyle - scored a cracking point. Decent enough fom play but not tested.
Loughrey - some great runs and brilliant catch near the posts in the second half. Good player.
Crozier - Poor game from him.
O'Hagan - ok but not great. Probably be good back-up.
Herron - impressed by him. Big strong and can take a catch.
McCann - Quiet for his standards but still very good.
Scullion - while listed at HF he was basically playing as a spare defender. The usual from him - some outstanding runs. The odd bad kick pass.
Tomas McCann - Some great runs. Better suited to the wing but caused Fermanagh quite a few problems.
Close - excellent on the ball. A good game from him.
Cunningham - good game. Learning to kick from tight angles with the right too which is what's needed.
Magiill - won everything that went near him, linked well and kicked some good scores. MotM.
O'Boyle - found the going tough enough. I think he was marking Bogue who'd be one of the better Fermanagh defenders.

Murray - not bad. Looks like ina few years with a bit more bulk he coul dbe half decent.
Pollock - not on long enough.

Not sure any other subs came on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2010, 08:59:16 PM
Hmm I thought he was better than McCann. The one doing the catching was the big no 12 who was quite possibly the worst player on a ball I have ever seen playing county football and wasn't in midfield...

Those Herrons are all reasonably athletic. Didn't think he stood out as particularly slow.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 09, 2010, 09:06:02 PM
Have only ever really seen Herron hurl and he never struck me as slow. Maybe it is more apparent in football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2010, 09:16:13 PM
I would disagree too.

Biggest problem in midfield was that when the ball wasn't being won cleanly Fermanagh had more boys to clean it up. They had men behind the catchers and Antrim didn't.

That and the continual need to play a spare man in defense are two things I wouldn't be too keen on - we should be confident enough to go man to man. Still, can't knock it so far...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
He caught 3 or 4 balls,maybe more, in the match...

I thought it was more secondary than primary possession we struggled on.

McCann didn't win much clean. I'd still like ot see him CHF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2010, 10:17:26 PM
          Aidso Herron

   Loughrey  M McCann  T McCann (O'Neill /Close as replacements)

  Cunningham  Magill      CJ (If not enough bal winning ability Burke to come in - he did well last year. Still have reservations about Cunningham and McGourty on one team.)

Also ,in my opinion,a school of though for putting Loughrey to CHB and Crozier to RHF...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 09, 2010, 11:24:22 PM
I wouldnt be so hard on Justy for his performance the other night - he got battered a few times and each time it was about the head / face - had to come off in the end after shipping some hard knocks - i'm sure that had an affect on his below average performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2010, 11:33:03 PM
Only seen Herron once so wouldn't get too carried away yet. We need someone with more physical presence in midfield though. McKeever's size made some difference last year. The year before that Mulvey fella lorded it against us - mainly because he was so big. It doesn't look like Hasson is cutting it so I hope Herron does! Gallagher and McCann are good but I don't feel they're big enough to play together as a pair..

Crozier's a very good footballer. He's set the bar high so he'll be forgiven a bad game...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2010, 12:43:21 AM
This Sundays fixtures.

Lets try pridictions.

Ardoyne    v    Cargin 2
St. Endas    v    St. Galls 2
McDermotts    v    St. Agnes
Glenravel    v    St. Teresas
Tír Na nÓg    v    Eire Óg




Cargin 3    v    Creggan 2
Ballycastle    v    Glenavy 2
Portglenone 2    v    Rasharkin 2
St. Pauls 2    v    St. Brigids 2
St. Johns 2    v    O'Donnell's




St. Galls 3    v    All Saints 2
Lámh Dhearg 2    v    St. Malachys
Lisburn    v    Sarsfields 2
Moneyglass 2    v    St. Endas 2





Aldergrove 2    v    Dunloy 2
Antrim    v    Ahoghill 2
Tír Na nÓg 2    v    Mitchells

Dont know much about these divisions but thought I'd give it a go.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 10, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
What the hell...why not for the craic!

DIV 3F

Ardoyne v Cargin 2
St. Endas v St. Galls 2
McDermotts v St. Agnes
Glenravel v St. Teresas
Tír Na nÓg v Eire Óg

DIV 4F

Cargin 3 v Creggan 2
Ballycastle v Glenavy 2
Portglenone 2 v Rasharkin 2
St. Pauls 2 v St. Brigids 2
St. Johns 2 v O'Donnell's

DIV 5F

St. Galls 3 v All Saints 2
Lámh Dhearg 2 v St. Malachys
Lisburn v Sarsfields 2
Moneyglass 2 v St. Endas 2

DIV 6F

Aghagallon 2 v Glenravel 2
Tir na Nog 2 v Aldergrove 2
Antrim v Ahoghill 2   
Dunloy 2 v Mitchels

Div 6 fixtures look to have changed CHB - Aghagallon & Glenravel now in the mix...fixtures on the county website Fixtures page.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2010, 11:34:02 PM
Anyone on here headin to Hyde Park?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2010, 04:10:32 PM
16 - 14.

Great win - I thought that could have been a potenial banana skin for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 14, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Magic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 15, 2010, 10:31:16 AM
I see CJ McGourty had a go at ye lads in the Sunday Tribune. Sauce for the Goose etc... Go away and get a real job :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 15, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 15, 2010, 10:31:16 AM
I see CJ McGourty had a go at ye lads in the Sunday Tribune. Sauce for the Goose etc... Go away and get a real job :D

Aye, he appears to have taken time out from his "job" to go and play on a swing.

He probably won't have the tea ready for us for lunch either, so busy is he reading this board.

I noted the bard of dunclug defence as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2010, 11:00:07 AM
Can someone post the article?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 15, 2010, 11:21:43 AM
Straight Shooter
After a trying few seasons at county level, St Gall's CJ McGourty is relishing the prospect of another All Ireland club final
Ewan MacKenna

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Swinging to and fro: CJ McGourty has had his difficulties at county level and admits that St Gall's is where his heart really lies

Stand well back please. As far as you can and as quickly as you can. Give him plenty of room. This is CJ McGourty we're dealing with and he could go off on one at any minute without the slightest sliver of a warning. No -one is safe from his honesty so we won't ask again. Well back please.

We meet in a quiet café on the Andersonstown Road in Belfast, McGourty meandering in the door with hands buried deep into his pockets and a cheeky grin painted across his face like a schoolboy up to some mild form of devilment. But it's easy to get him all wrong and it becomes clear that the outspoken corner-forward is no more than a misunderstood product of his environment. This part of the world doesn't smooth over too many rough edges and he openly talks about Pat Sheehan, the man from St Gall's who went on hunger strike for 55 days, how circumstances forced the club to become a close family and how he's desperate for it to thrive as it starts into its second century of existence this year.

You tell him you've been warned. For a tiny moment he wonders about what but isn't surprised to learn that you've heard he can be as devastating in front of a dictaphone as he has so often been next door in Casement Park. And that's saying something considering he'll play in his second All Ireland club final of the year on Wednesday, having already hit 0-7 in the All Ireland intermediate club hurling decider. And that's not even his preferred code.

"But nothing phases me," he shrugs. "People can say what they want and they can think what they want of me. They can send me abusive texts before games. They can go on HoganStand or GAABoard or whatever. I've read so many times there that I don't have respect for Antrim and I'm not good enough anyway but that's people in work who don't have anything to do. Get a real job and they wouldn't have time for that. They can even come up to me like they did before the Ulster final. I won't let it get me down."

Even so, that's an awful lot for a 21-year-old to carry on his shoulders while spending his time playing ball with a flighty freedom that has drawn comparisons with a young Colm Cooper. Yet despite the ferocious weight of opinions, he's been the scoring force behind St Gall's run to St Patrick's Day, out-shooting Loup by himself in the Ulster final before taking responsibility for a stunning 1-9 against Corofin two weeks ago. Then again he's needed St Gall's as much as they've needed him.

"After everything that happened last year, it was important for me that St Gall's had a run to make up for what I had missed out on and also because if we didn't, people would have been sticking two fingers up at me."

His troubles began back in 2006 when he was dropped by the Antrim minor hurlers for an All Ireland quarter-final having chosen St Gall's over county training sessions too many times. But if that was a mere bumpy landing, last season was a mid-air collision. It may seem fitting in this week of all weeks that a player still puts club before county but that was little consolation as he missed out on Antrim's wild ride.

"You have to understand that I'm playing for the people of St Gall's when I play for Antrim. The people in this club are the people that made me the player I am. I know guys who won't play for their clubs once they make it at county level. They just see the glamour. I don't want that. I will choose Gall's every single time and that was the beginning of it last year. I missed some training sessions to play league games and another because St Mary's had got to the Division Three university hurling final."

And then there was the county under-21s. At face value, it's hard not to have a chuckle at what happened a year ago. After Antrim were beaten by Tyrone in the under-21 championship, the team and some selectors hit the town. Hard. Later that night McGourty found himself half-asleep in the back of a taxi, not knowing a friend in the front had taken his phone. Worse still, the same friend had earlier in the day spotted pictures of both Antrim senior manager Liam Bradley and Robocop in a look-alike section of Gaelic Life.

Next thing, the friend sees Bradley's number and at one in the morning decides to call the manager. 'Hello, is Robocop there?'

'What?'

'I'm looking for Robocop. The lads think you're Robocop.'

'Excuse me?'

'ROBOCOP.'

"I only got my phone back the next day and looked at my call list. I'm sure he picked up it wasn't my voice. But it was strange because we were told not to go to training the following night and when none of the under-21s showed up, we got this call telling us to come to the next weekend's game but not to bring our gear. After that he told me I was gone. Why me though? Was I the only one? I've talked to Baker [Bradley] since and he said I hadn't been training. He even said that when Antrim played Leitrim the day after I had played with St Mary's, he didn't want me there but brought me on because the other selectors made him."

His consolation was a two-game championship with Antrim's hurlers but he never expected to see the footballers lighting up the summer like a firework. Not that he begrudged them it either. Not one little bit. He went to see them stun Donegal in the opener and was there in good time to see the team bus pass him by as he sat outside a bar in Clones on Ulster final day. "People were saying things to me and I was just there having a beer with mates. But I'd have given up Antrim to win the All Ireland with St Gall's and it's great that I now have a chance to make that happen. I just love playing for St Gall's."

Do you love playing for Antrim you ask him?

"Well, I'd say I like playing for Antrim. But club is always first with me. I guess intercounty can be strange. Like what is it about drinking? If I go and have a pint of water there are guys waiting to tell my manager I was falling around the city centre. And so what if I do drink occasionally? Professional soccer players drink every Saturday night. It's the same if you go to the gym for six months and are tired some day and just don't go. There's outrage. Tell you what, as soon as they start paying me, people can complain."

And what of Antrim this year you inquire, knowing he's already been told to take a rest because of a recurring problem with cartilage in the hip?

"I had an operation in 2007 but it's flared up again and I'll need another one. I'll go back two or three weeks after this and we will see. Baker was talking about me going forward with Antrim and where and if I'd fit in. I'd say I'd fit in at some stage. But sometimes the county board don't help. Like news got out that I was injured for this final because the county chairman [Dr John McSparron] went on radio. I don't know how he found out but it was none of his business. Stupid things like that. You'd think they'd want to help Gall's. Anyway, there's not a hope in the world of me missing this final."

With that he's returned to the topic he truly cherishes. His club and this final. Despite only being 21, he's been here gearing up for one before. Four years ago, he left the bench and kicked two points in a dreary one-point defeat to Salthill. His memories of that day? The biting cold as he sat on the bench, seeing the physio sobbing in the corner of the dressing room after the game and sitting beside teammate Seán Kelly as the wing-back broke down as the bus passed Dundalk on the long way home.

"In a way, that day passed us by and we are desperate to make sure that never happens again. We really want this and it's hard to describe. St Gall's are St Gall's. You ask anyone here if we're an Antrim club. We wouldn't say that. It's not cocky, it's confident. We're not an Antrim team, we are just St Gall's and that's the way we like to be known. And it's that affection for the place that means this is the ultimate for me. This is the be-all and end-all. If I win, and everything goes wrong until I retire, I will still look back happy. If we do win, I'll never ever surpass it."

We warned you to stand back. But if you think that's bad, it's nothing compared to the storm predicted to hit Croke Park on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 15, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
You ask anyone here if we're an Antrim club. We wouldn't say that. It's not cocky, it's confident. We're not an Antrim team, we are just St Gall's and that's the way we like to be known.

Which county championship do you play in??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2010, 12:18:03 PM
Doesnt do much to dispell the commonly held view about him does it!  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on March 15, 2010, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 15, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
You ask anyone here if we're an Antrim club. We wouldn't say that. It's not cocky, it's confident. We're not an Antrim team, we are just St Gall's and that's the way we like to be known.

Which county championship do you play in??

Lads always want to take the first big negative out of a story and highlight it rather than the rest. Fair play to the lad, his club comes first and I agree with him. They made him, they put in the hours and there are too many who forsake all those who put in the hours to make them the player they have become before they hit the big time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 15, 2010, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 15, 2010, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 15, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
You ask anyone here if we're an Antrim club. We wouldn't say that. It's not cocky, it's confident. We're not an Antrim team, we are just St Gall's and that's the way we like to be known.

Which county championship do you play in??

Lads always want to take the first big negative out of a story and highlight it rather than the rest. Fair play to the lad, his club comes first and I agree with him. They made him, they put in the hours and there are too many who forsake all those who put in the hours to make them the player they have become before they hit the big time.

I don't want to turn this into a pro/anti CJ McGourty thread...but...actually I understand and admire CJ's devotion to his club.  He's right that too many players turn their back on the club once inter county success beckons and without the club there'd be no inter county scene at all.  However as an Antrim man but not a St Galls man, reading this interview (and we have to allow for selective editing etc) and watching the recent TV interview with BBC to discuss his return to the Antrim panel I would have to question if he has the necessary desire at inter county level to be a success.  If he's not that fussed about playing for Antrim I would actually understand and would say fair enough it's an amateur game and for a 21 year old he's already played a hell of a lot of GAA.  But don't take somebody else's place on the panel if you're not going to "buy into" it 100%.

On a more positive note I'll be in Croke Pk on Wed supporting St Galls.  I hope CJ scores a hat full.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on March 15, 2010, 01:34:06 PM
Well thats up for Baker to decide how his commitment compares to those on the panel. A player can only give the maximum he feels he can give. With the amount of players taking breaks because lack of desire these days there it should be up to the manager to decide if he wants talented players who might turn up or less talented players with more effort, drive etc. Let Baker make those calls, he's done it well so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on March 15, 2010, 02:05:28 PM
That interview is the biggest pile of balls I have ever read.

1. He didnt get thrown off for missing training with Antrim, he was drinking every weekend before all the games.
2. Who in Antrim have put county first for the fame and fortunes that come with county football (12 months of co called success, thats all Antrim have had)
3. We arent an Antrim Club? WTF? Does this even make sense?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2010, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on March 15, 2010, 02:05:28 PM
That interview is the biggest pile of balls I have ever read.

1. He didnt get thrown off for missing training with Antrim, he was drinking every weekend before all the games.
2. Who in Antrim have put county first for the fame and fortunes that come with county football (12 months of co called success, thats all Antrim have had)
3. We arent an Antrim Club? WTF? Does this even make sense?

Absolute compute and utter bollox.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 15, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2010, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on March 15, 2010, 02:05:28 PM
That interview is the biggest pile of balls I have ever read.

1. He didnt get thrown off for missing training with Antrim, he was drinking every weekend before all the games.
2. Who in Antrim have put county first for the fame and fortunes that come with county football (12 months of co called success, thats all Antrim have had)
3. We arent an Antrim Club? WTF? Does this even make sense?

Absolute compute and utter bollox.

What does that mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2010, 02:25:48 PM
Apologies, I'm on a relatively bumpy bus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 15, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
No tea made at lunch time today either. Probably playing on a big slide or roundabout or climbing frame.

It was the McSorleys who stole your lunch by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 10:38:52 AM
You have to laugh at the articles on St Gall's which paint a picture that if you're not playing for the club or clubs in that area, you'll be glue-sniffing, joyriding or robbing. Heaney's at it too today. Feckin animals up there in Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2010, 10:41:09 AM
Yeah the like to roll out the stereotypes around any city club that is doing well all over Ireland.

On a side note any word of St Galls developing as a club and getting new changing rooms etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 10:49:54 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 10:38:52 AM
You have to laugh at the articles on St Gall's which paint a picture that if you're not playing for the club or clubs in that area, you'll be glue-sniffing, joyriding or robbing. Heaney's at it too today. Feckin animals up there in West Belfast.

Fixed that for you there O'Neill. ;)  (Runs for cover)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 10:50:14 AM
Fair play to Crossmaglen then. If it weren't for the club, the McEntees would be out ridin livestock or McConville would be at the diesel craic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 10:53:45 AM
And if it weren't for the PSNI GAA Team........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 16, 2010, 11:07:13 AM
Great times for Antrim football,Good Luck St.Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 16, 2010, 11:37:36 AM
And then there's all this family stuff when they're lifting their skirts to anyone whose head they might turn with tales of great footballing riches, like Paddy Cunningham, Rory Gallagher and Michael Pollock.

Didn't harm Cunningham's inter-county career staying in Hannahstown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 16, 2010, 01:33:31 PM
I see Micheal Magill is out injured for the next couple of games - Niblock would be an immediate replacement in FF if he makes himself available after tomorrow's Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2010, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 16, 2010, 01:33:31 PM
I see Micheal Magill is out injured for the next couple of games - Niblock would be an immediate replacement in FF if he makes himself available after tomorrow's Final.

I think Niblock will need time off to finally get his ankles fixed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2010, 03:04:23 PM
Good Luck to Naomh Gall, great to an 'Antrim' team in the final.

In all seriousness great achievement to get back to this stage and heres hoping they can go one better this time around!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 16, 2010, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 16, 2010, 03:04:23 PM
Good Luck to Naomh Gall, great to an 'Antrim' team in the final.

In all seriousness great achievement to get back to this stage and heres hoping they can go one better this time around!

Hear, hear!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
Is it just me or is this a terrible quote to give on the eve of the game. Can be quoted out of context I know, but what the hell?

why can he not just be positive?

"You'll always have that small element of diehard lunatics that won't look outside their own club, but anyone in Antrim GAA who has a reasonable GAA bone in their body will be right behind St Gall's," McSparron told the Irish Independent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2010, 03:52:14 PM
He's also talking bollox by saying we weren't beaten at minor for seven or eight years. With the 7 U21s that we won, I think there were at most four minor titles.

Still a lot like, but two clumps of two is vastly different from winning seven or eight straight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 16, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 16, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
Is it just me or is this a terrible quote to give on the eve of the game. Can be quoted out of context I know, but what the hell?

why can he not just be positive?

"You'll always have that small element of diehard lunatics that won't look outside their own club, but anyone in Antrim GAA who has a reasonable GAA bone in their body will be right behind St Gall's," McSparron told the Irish Independent.

Nothing negative in his comment, 100% accurate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladhabu on March 16, 2010, 04:08:53 PM
Good Luck to the men from Miltown, I really hope that if/when they win we can hear from the Kelly's, Brady's Gallaghers etc etc instead of that gambling, alcoholic arrogant little ass****. Someone should get him media training if he's going to go on Bullshitting, stop talking about the club and start giving credit to his team mates for a change. Good luck to the Kelly's Gallagher's and all the rest of the team that deserve the lime light for wee change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2010, 04:11:52 PM
Quote from: Uladhabu on March 16, 2010, 04:08:53 PM
Good Luck to the men from Miltown, I really hope that if/when they win we can hear from the Kelly's, Brady's Gallaghers etc etc instead of that gambling, alcoholic arrogant little ass****. Someone should get him media training if he's going to go on Bullshitting, stop talking about the club and start giving credit to his team mates for a change. Good luck to the Kelly's Gallagher's and all the rest of the team that deserve the lime light for wee change.

Yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn.

Someone should give you some how not to be a tosser training if you're going to keep on bullshitting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 05:32:43 PM
The very best wishes to the Galls tomorrow. They're a special outfit with a plethora of supremely talented players. There mightn't be a club side in the country that can keep possession the way this crowd can. Big game players with plenty of experience - they should have enough to do it. That's as long as they're prepared to do everything Killmurry attempt in terms of laying the body on the line for the club/cause. I can't see the Milltown men being found wanting in that respect either.

Great advert for their club, their county and for club football in general. I hope they show what they're capable of.

If they weren't playing a bit of ball they'd be glued out to the gills by midday on St Patrick's Day according to Heaney.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on March 16, 2010, 05:54:27 PM
best of luck to galls from all in dunloy,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 16, 2010, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 16, 2010, 05:32:43 PM
The very best wishes to the Galls tomorrow. They're a special outfit with a plethora of supremely talented players. There mightn't be a club side in the country that can keep possession the way this crowd can. Big game players with plenty of experience - they should have enough to do it. That's as long as they're prepared to do everything Killmurry attempt in terms of laying the body on the line for the club/cause. I can't see the Milltown men being found wanting in that respect either.

Great advert for their club, their county and for club football in general. I hope they show what they're capable of.

If they weren't playing a bit of ball they'd be glued out to the gills by midday on St Patrick's Day according to Heaney.

Agree 100%...except for the last bit about the glue obviously...

Good luck St Galls...hopefully the weather will be a bit better than 2006.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
The very best of luck to all our lads playing tomorrow. It's crazy to think that people like Sean Kelly and Kevin McGourty have been playing senior football for ten years or more and still have a few to go before they hit thirty. An All-Ireland title would be a magnificent achievement for an Antrim club.

Over the last ten years, we've probably been one of the most consistent clubs in the country, certainly only surpassed in Ulster by Cross. The All-Ireland would make everything worthwhile and be a wonderful tribute to the work put in with both the senior and under-age teams over the last ten years by the likes of Mickey Culbert, John Rafferrty, Lenny Harbinson, Sean McGourty, Sean Kelly Snr, Paul Flanagan, Tony Earley, Jim McDaniel and Liam Stewart.

A skint little club with shag all facilities on the pinnacle of possessing the best football team in the country. The GAA continues to amaze and affirm itself as the dominant sporting organisation on this island.

Especially hope for big performances from the players I grew up with - CJ, Mark Kelly and Burky. I have no doubt the lads will do us all proud.

With the four provinces represented, crowd might be bigger than usual this year. Here's hoping for a fantastic day with a fitting conclusion!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2010, 06:31:47 PM
Magill is a massive loss. With no target man we could have a few problems. Still hopefully we manage something with the galls contingent back...

Gallagher to midfield and McCann to FF for the interim...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2010, 06:36:08 PM
ok i've everything ready, flick knife, petrol can, lighter, evo stick, screwdriver (for the cars) and with a load of fake Euro's it should be a grand day!!!

i'd say 90% of the players that came through St Galls have went to College (doesn't mean they are smart) but there would't be to many lads that came from the 'Road'

Hope we win and don't care by how much or if we were to win with style! a point will do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on March 16, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 16, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
A skint little club with shag all facilities on the pinnacle of possessing the best football team in the country. T

What difference does that make - sure isnt it an amateur game?  :P

Best of luck to St Galls, plenty of excellent individual players, but also very much a team.

I think they very much deserve AI success, and I have every confidence they will get it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2010, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 16, 2010, 08:35:59 PM
Milltown Row (not the poster) was cordoned off by the peelers yesterday afternoon. Anyone know why?

I heard someone broke into the changing rooms and did three quids worth of damage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
tends to be a lot of drunks down there ;)

hope they don't come down tomorrow night!! i think there will be bodies laying all overhe place (win lose or draw)

room on the bus minder plus ticket if your interested
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 16, 2010, 10:08:35 PM
Good luck to St Galls tomorrow. Would love them to win it tomorrow. A remarkable achievement for a club to have to be playing AI Finals in 2 codes a month part. Was at the final in 2006....not going down incase I scud them again...plus I still have the cold from it  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2010, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
tends to be a lot of drunks down there ;)

hope they don't come down tomorrow night!! i think there will be bodies laying all overhe place (win lose or draw)

room on the bus minder plus ticket if your interested

Was gonna go down but will settle for the boozer and a bit of punting at Cheltenham, can't be any worse than today  :'( Will have to get a few quid on K.I. tomorrow to cover my bases as I did St Galls after they won Ulster. K.I. are 9/4 to lift the cup. Will be doing Ballyhale/St Galls double too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2010, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 16, 2010, 10:22:24 PM
I'm thinking of backing KIB myself. The odds on this are crazy imo.

Hope St. Gall's win of course.

They alright, if this was a Kerry team playing St Galls wouldn't be 1/3. K.I. are no mugs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on March 16, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
Good luck St Galls from a Ballinderry man. Hopefully you'll experience the euphoria we did on 17-03-02 in Thurles.  You have the team to do it, and will never have a better chance.  Naomh Gall abu.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 16, 2010, 11:50:54 PM
Best of Luck to St Galls from all of Tyrone.


Uladh Abú!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bonaduche on March 17, 2010, 09:46:15 AM
best of luck st galls   
   from urney strabane and dunnyloop 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: robertemmet on March 17, 2010, 10:38:05 AM
Best of luck to St gall's today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on March 17, 2010, 06:42:35 PM
Congratulations to st galls, fully deserved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cannon Fodder on March 17, 2010, 06:59:35 PM
St Galls were magnificant today, with their support play and hard running a joy to watch. Mixed their game up well with some direct balls also.

Enjoy tonight and probaby a few more nights. Best wishes from all in Loughgiel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on March 17, 2010, 07:04:34 PM
Well done Galls.  Job done with plenty in reserve.  Enjoy.   :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mac hinery on March 17, 2010, 07:28:03 PM
Well done St Galls won with style, and fair play to Lenny,  an oul hand from the Ranch.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 17, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
Well done St Galls.

Antrim now can boast All Ireland Senior footall champions.

When or if Cavan play Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on March 17, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 16, 2010, 11:50:54 PM
Best of Luck to St Galls from all of Tyrone.


Uladh Abú!!

When were you apointed to speak on behalf of all of Tyrone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 17, 2010, 10:05:29 PM
Big time congrats to St Galls from me...just little old me!

As stated they did it with plenty to spare. Some stupid decision making when attacking in second half could have cost them but it didn't and who cares.

As I said to someone earlier if Brian Cody can get man of the match in an all ireland final then the St Galls defence should have got it. To a man they were class. They hassled, harried and broke out well.

Very well deserved all round.

Obviously this won't be on the radar tonight or for a few days but they could go on to win it a few times now the duck is broken.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2010, 10:26:42 PM
I wonder will they be available for sunday...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 17, 2010, 10:36:24 PM
Any bonfires?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2010, 10:41:40 PM
They deserve a break alright - from a selfish point of view would like them back ASAP though...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 17, 2010, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 17, 2010, 10:37:43 PM
You'd think they'd set the mountain on fire again.
Nah flooding toilets is more of a Galls tradition. There'll hardly be a cow milked on the Falls tonight

Fair play to them. Superb performance. Should have won by 10-12 points. That used to Antrim teams f**king up I'd was still worried with 5/6 minutes left considering the chances missed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2010, 10:45:13 PM
From about 20 minutes on you could tell they were never going to lose it though they were maybe getting a wee bit complacent at the end.

I'd have said that Gribben / Veronica fella would be worth a shot in the county panel as well as the other boys who are on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 17, 2010, 10:59:14 PM
Any cows on the Falls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 18, 2010, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: bonaduche on March 17, 2010, 09:46:15 AM
best of luck st galls   
   from urney strabane and dunnyloop

Where is Dunnyloop?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 18, 2010, 10:06:37 AM
Great day and win for St Galls,every handy win for them thought they could have won by 15 pts,the only bad part for me was had them backed-5pts  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 18, 2010, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 17, 2010, 10:59:14 PM
Any cows on the Falls?

Not yet.  Come the championship vs. Tyrone :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on March 18, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
Sue the ref so, for he blew it up when there was a handy free for galls. Was actually thinking how pissed off you'd be if you'd done a handicap bet...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 18, 2010, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on March 18, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
Sue the ref so, for he blew it up when there was a handy free for galls. Was actually thinking how pissed off you'd be if you'd done a handicap bet...

yeah and still 20 secs left :'( bastard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on March 18, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 17, 2010, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on March 17, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 16, 2010, 11:50:54 PM
Best of Luck to St Galls from all of Tyrone.


Uladh Abú!!

When were you apointed to speak on behalf of all of Tyrone?
Last week. The same day it was decided that one p was enough for the word apoint.

Get with the programe* longrunsthefox.

*Yip, just one m needed now!

:P  I'm delighted St Galls won... it is the ultimate achievement and better than winning Sam Maguire -I just don't get Under the Bar wishing them luck 'on behalf of all of Tyrone.'
I'm not good at spelling... so wat?...  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2010, 01:08:24 PM
The Championship match in Casement is hotting up nicely. The Antrim crowd will be manic. If they take the Division Three title as well there'll be some expectation of an ambush. It'll be some atmosphere.

The question now is, how many of the Galls players will be sucked into the Antrim set-up and will the McGourtys tog out for them? There's justification for all three to start. Throw in Brady, Kelly, Gallagher, Niblock etc and the competition for a starting place has Antrim football in its healthiest state in yonks.

Baker'll earn his corn now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2010, 01:27:56 PM
such a hangover!!

what a day, its taken this club a hundred years to win at Croke park. to get to two finals at both codes has been a great achievement.

was in the lift in the Hogan stand on the way down to the changing rooms after the match. and in the lift was Sean Kelly (ex president) he went into the changing rooms and to a man congratulated them

Was getting dinner afterwards in the Hogan Stand and was sitting with the Kilmurry lads and mentors, obviously dissappointed but knew they were beat by the better team.

called it yesterday for both games and managed to place 25 euro on the double! Ballyhale 13/8n and us -3 at 6/5 great free day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 18, 2010, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2010, 01:08:24 PM
The Championship match in Casement is hotting up nicely. The Antrim crowd will be manic. If they take the Division Three title as well there'll be some expectation of an ambush. It'll be some atmosphere.

The question now is, how many of the Galls players will be sucked into the Antrim set-up and will the McGourtys tog out for them? There's justification for all three to start. Throw in Brady, Kelly, Gallagher, Niblock etc and the competition for a starting place has Antrim football in its healthiest state in yonks.

Baker'll earn his corn now.

I'm sure I might take some stick but of the 13 Antrim men who started yesterday you could probably make an argument for all of them to be in the panel..

Some of the St Gall's posters will know better than me but of the McGourtys I think we'll only see CJ (if his hip stands up) in the Saffron this year??

It's certainly a nice problem for Baker to have and the Antrim bench looks like it will be a lot stronger than last year.  Can Baker harness the best talent available to Antrim for 50 years and better the master tactician??  We'll see, but if you'd said 2 or 3 years ago that this is a game Antrim can win you'd have been told to lie in a darkened room for a while.

Antrim can win this game :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 18, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
Great win for St Galls yesterday but there is a big difference between Club Football and Senior Intercounty.  It is to be expected that there will be some over the top talk regarding Antrim on the back of this win, but it is wishful thinking if people think that suddently the Antrim team is going to become world beaters.  The elelment of surprise will not be there in the 2010 Championship, and out of the Antrim men playing on the St Galls team yesterday, how many would star or stand out at Senior Inter-County level that were not already involved? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cookstownblue on March 18, 2010, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 18, 2010, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2010, 01:08:24 PM
The Championship match in Casement is hotting up nicely. The Antrim crowd will be manic. If they take the Division Three title as well there'll be some expectation of an ambush. It'll be some atmosphere.

The question now is, how many of the Galls players will be sucked into the Antrim set-up and will the McGourtys tog out for them? There's justification for all three to start. Throw in Brady, Kelly, Gallagher, Niblock etc and the competition for a starting place has Antrim football in its healthiest state in yonks.

Baker'll earn his corn now.

I'm sure I might take some stick but of the 13 Antrim men who started yesterday you could probably make an argument for all of them to be in the panel..

Some of the St Gall's posters will know better than me but of the McGourtys I think we'll only see CJ (if his hip stands up) in the Saffron this year??

It's certainly a nice problem for Baker to have and the Antrim bench looks like it will be a lot stronger than last year.  Can Baker harness the best talent available to Antrim for 50 years and better the master tactician??  We'll see, but if you'd said 2 or 3 years ago that this is a game Antrim can win you'd have been told to lie in a darkened room for a while.

Antrim can win this game :o

lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 18, 2010, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 18, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
Great win for St Galls yesterday but there is a big difference between Club Football and Senior Intercounty.  It is to be expected that there will be some over the top talk regarding Antrim on the back of this win, but it is wishful thinking if people think that suddently the Antrim team is going to become world beaters.  The elelment of surprise will not be there in the 2010 Championship, and out of the Antrim men playing on the St Galls team yesterday, how many would star or stand out at Senior Inter-County level that were not already involved?

Kieran, Kevin & CJ McGourty, Sean Kelly??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2010, 04:48:27 PM
Nrico we understand that it's a big step for us to beat a team like Tyrone...

However we go into this championship with optimism and it's possibly the first one as long as I've lived that this has happened.

There has been no element of surprise in any league match so far yet we have continued to win those matches. Division 3 granted but we couldn't do it a few years ago in division 4.

We are unbeaten in the league and have AI club champions so we are understandably happy / optimistic. We still would be masisve outsiders against tyrone and we know that.

Will be great to see the st galls players back too. Looking forward to seeing Sean Kelly back in the county jersey. I'd like to see the guy Veronica givena  shot too. Full back line is an area we're weak in and he would do no harm in there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
Antrim are priced at 33/1 to win Ulster. Originally it was 50/1 (thats what i backed them at) thats a serious drop in price.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2010, 07:24:57 PM
Sean Kelly would get on any team in Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 18, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
Antrim are priced at 33/1 to win Ulster. Originally it was 50/1 (thats what i backed them at) thats a serious drop in price.

I would most certainly take a bite at that price if they get some of the more influential Galls men on board/back.

Couple of the tyrone posters on here might do well to note that we were pointless out of three games until we managed to somehow rob Cork last weekend. To suggest that Antrim can win this game is a very real possibility.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: robertemmet on March 19, 2010, 09:09:11 AM
What is the wee st gall's hand sign they make when in team photos, noticed it a lot recently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 09:45:33 AM
I asked one of them and he says it has to do with some girl a few of them tackled at different times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 19, 2010, 11:19:29 AM
From the BBC site: (though does Michael Magill not play for Randalstown ??? And is it not Gerard O'Boyle).  Sack that researcher!!

Magill ruled out through injury

A hamstring injury suffered in last Sunday's win over Roscommon has ruled Michael Magill out of Antrim's NFL Division Three clash with Offaly. The Rasharkin (sic) man was forced to make way for Conor Murray after 23 minutes last Sunday and the same player comes in for Magill for the Tullamore game. Gerard Boyle (sic) starts in Magill's full-forward role with Murray lining out at left corner. Sean McGreevy takes over the number one jersey from John Finucane. The Saffrons will be looking to maintain their 100 per cent record in Tullamore.


Antrim:
S McGreevy;
D McCann, A Douglas, K O'Boyle
T Scullion, J Crozier, D O'Hagan
M McCann, B Herron,
C Close, T McCann, J Loughrey
P Cunningham, G O'Boyle, C Murray.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
I worry about this game. We need a presence in FF and I'm not sure Gerard O'Boyle is it.

Also Niall McNamee will take some watching.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bigfrank on March 21, 2010, 03:11:52 PM
anyone at the game?? could updates be posted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2010, 04:20:43 PM
Beat by one. Balls.

Still Magill and Galls boys to come back and two games to rectify it so hopefully all is not lost.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 21, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
Other results were kind as well...still top??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2010, 04:36:34 PM
Everyone else has been beat twice have they not so we have to be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 21, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Not great result - magill missed badly.  whats his status?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2010, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: otbar on March 21, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Not great result - magill missed badly.  whats his status?

Single i believe ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 21, 2010, 09:47:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2010, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: otbar on March 21, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Not great result - magill missed badly.  whats his status?

Single i believe ;)

Ha Ha

Been told he's due back in 4 or 5 weeks so you can try the hand then chap !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 22, 2010, 10:21:37 AM
he hardly will be back for champ then - fitness wise - he seems to struggle with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 22, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: otbar on March 22, 2010, 10:21:37 AM
he hardly will be back for champ then - fitness wise - he seems to struggle with that.

There are 9 weeks to go before the Tyrone game??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on March 22, 2010, 11:02:06 AM
I'm presuming he means he struggles with his fitness, and a lay off now meaning hes back only 4 weeks before the championship game will mean he wont be match fit in time for it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 22, 2010, 01:18:45 PM
needed though.  fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 08:54:54 PM
Eleven St Gall's men have been / are to be approached about hooking up with Antrim.

All the qualifying starters bar Gribbies, Mark Kelly and Kieran McGourty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2010, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 08:54:54 PM
Eleven St Gall's men have been / are to be approached about hooking up with Antrim.

All the qualifying starters bar Gribbies, Mark Kelly and Kieran McGourty.
15 - 2 (Fermanagh men) = 13

13 - 3 (Gribbies, Mark Kelly and Kieran McGourty) = 10

Eh? A sub? Hmm.

Pollock, you daft bollock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2010, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 23, 2010, 08:54:54 PM
Eleven St Gall's men have been / are to be approached about hooking up with Antrim.

All the qualifying starters bar Gribbies, Mark Kelly and Kieran McGourty.
15 - 2 (Fermanagh men) = 13

13 - 3 (Gribbies, Mark Kelly and Kieran McGourty) = 10

Eh? A sub? Hmm.

Pollock, you daft bollock.
Oh fcuk aye.

Why not Gribbies or Kieran McGourty?

I'd bring the lot in.

Baker asked Conor if Kieran would be interested. Says the young buck "Nah, he wouldn't".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Kieran would be a geat addition to the team. played some football this year.

when will they be back? next match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2010, 09:33:28 PM
Kieran starting to show his age though. Went to bed early on the night of the All-Ireland with a 'good book' and a glass of milk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2010, 09:47:40 PM
 
Quote from: ONeill on March 23, 2010, 09:33:28 PM
Kieran starting to show his age though. Went to bed early on the night of the All-Ireland with a 'good book' and a glass of milk.

Paddys Day should always be on a Friday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2010, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2010, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 23, 2010, 09:33:28 PM
Kieran starting to show his age though. Went to bed early on the night of the All-Ireland with a 'good book' and a glass of milk.

Paddys Day should always be on a Friday.

Did your Paddys Day not end around Friday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2010, 06:25:14 PM
Only noticed there that the U21s are playing tonight.

What have they been like this year? Any chance of a win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 24, 2010, 09:27:05 PM
No, we were awful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 24, 2010, 11:33:53 PM
Poor, poor display from Antrim - no fight, lots of handling errors and turnovers - Bakers magic not being worked with the next generation just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 25, 2010, 12:35:57 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8586846.stm


CJ Gourty back with Antrim squad

CJ McGourty has become the first member of the All-Ireland winning St Gall's team to return to Antrim senior football training. McGourty is back in the Saffron fold after returning to county training earlier this week. The talented forward was dropped by Antrim manager Liam Bradley for disciplinary reasons last year. McGourty is committing himself to the Antrim cause again despite an ongoing hip problem. Prior to St Gall's All-Ireland Club Final win over Kilmurray, McGourty indicated that the injury would probably require surgery at some stage. Several other members of the victorious St Gall's squad will return to Bradley's squad in the coming weeks. These are Colin Brady, Kevin Niblock, Sean Burke, Andy McClean, Terry O'Neill, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean Kelly, who is set to rejoin the squad this season after not playing last year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 27, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
Baker...never knowingly undersold :)  But good to see someone with a bit of confidence in Antrim football at last...

Bradley eyes top flight for Antrim
By Colm Keys
Friday March 26 2010

Liam Bradley pleads for some understanding that his objectives are not to be mistaken for arrogance and that his opinion of Antrim's status should not be confused with anything other than what he believes to be the truth.  For a start, he expects to win promotion from Division 3 at Casement Park tomorrow night when Louth -- the closest of the four teams perched behind them in the group on six points -- come to town.  In fact, he bemoans that they didn't close the deal against Offaly in Tullamore last Sunday when they had the opportunity.  But once that objective of promotion is achieved, he can set his sights on the summer again and consolidating the status of "one of the top 10 teams in the country."  After that Bradley can then turn his attentions towards Division 1, where he feels his emerging team are well capable of playing their football in future years.  'Baker' doesn't make small talk. He doesn't talk his team down, either, because their unyielding belief is shared and over the last 12 months, their progress has been underscored by faith in what they do.  For so long we have traded them off as the weakest of the nine in Ulster; statistics have consistently backed that up in league and championship. But right now, Bradley sees a squad in front of him that's the match of anything else in Ulster. His words, not ours.  "We think we now have the best panel that Antrim have had for many, many years and we think that panel has the ability to compete with anyone else in Ulster," he said with solemn conviction yesterday.  So far, league results have borne much of that conviction out. But just in the last week Antrim football has shown some vulnerability with defeat in Tullamore last Sunday followed by an U-21 quarter-final reversal at the hands of Monaghan at home on Wednesday night.  Victory in Tullamore last Sunday would almost certainly have guaranteed them Division 2 status for next season, given their sizeable superiority in score difference.  "We were disappointed with that performance, but it won't knock us out of our stride for long. To be honest, if we can't get two points from our two remaining games against Louth and Wexford, then we don't deserve to be going up," he said.

"I'd have great ambition for these Antrim players. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound over confident but I think at some stage in the future they are capable of mixing it in Division 1. That's where they want to be," added Bradley, father of Derry players Paddy and Eoin.
"We have a lot of players who have played very competitively at the highest level of third level with Queens, St Mary's and Jordanstown. They know the level they are capable of."

And Bradley welcomed back the remaining seven St Gall's players to training last night -- Colin Brady, Kevin Niblock, Sean Burke, Andy McClean, Terry O'Neill, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean Kelly -- eight days after their impressive Croke Park triumph over Kilmurry-Ibrickane which earned the county a first football All-Ireland title at adult level.

Earlier in the week CJ McGourty, who had fallen out of favour with Bradley's management over a discipline issue 12 months earlier, made his return. And his presence -- along with the St Gall's contingent -- should provide the impetus for Antrim to secure successive promotions, something Tipperary managed in 2008 and '09.

"People will inevitably look to last year, getting to an Ulster final and then running Kerry so close as a once off. But we see it as a stepping stone. We felt we left that Kerry game behind," Bradley said.


The advent of St Gall's as All-Ireland champions, coupled with the progress in league and championship over the last 12 months, has breathed new life into Antrim football.

"In my first game in charge against Wicklow there were no more than a hundred people in the ground -- and now the stand is full 15 minutes beforehand," Bradley said.

"Of course what Gall's did has been inspirational. And no disrespect to Kilmurry-Ibrickane, but they won that final in second gear. But we always felt we could go up even without the artillery of the St Gall's boys until the last two rounds.

He added: "It's encouraging for everyone involved, but it's not our passport to success. We know we have to work that bit harder than more successful teams. And if we don't get two points at least from our next two matches, we will have egg on our faces after the position we have put ourselves in."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2010, 12:49:16 PM
Good man Baker

I hope we can put the Tipp/Waterford nightmare of 2008 to bed tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2010, 03:17:16 PM
could be a few Galls men on tonight, and a curve ball ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 27, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2010, 03:17:16 PM
could be a few Galls men on tonight, and a curve ball ;)

OK MR2...I'm intrigued...would the letter K be significant??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
well a k for sure and a H  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2010, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 27, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
O'H?
He?

a Ke and a He and a Te
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 27, 2010, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2010, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 27, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
O'H?
He?

a Ke and a He and a Te

Is this the Saffron Haka?? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2010, 09:45:05 PM
Great win although we stopped a bit in 2nd half especially when Niblock got injured.

Baker will have his work cut out picking a team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 27, 2010, 11:47:34 PM
Starting to see a bit more promise in this Antrim side now - all the Galls lads slotted in very well tonight, only bad news was Niblock going off injured after a hard hit to the ribs / shoulder - hopefully nothing too serious - he was playmaker for Antrim until he went off.  Healy fitted in well at corner back surprisingly enough - with Brady & McLean to fit in there its a tough call to name a team at this stage for championship - good problem to have thankfully.  CJ was a bit off form - missed all his shots at goal when he came on - just not his night.

Probably as big a crowd ive seen in casement for a league game in a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2010, 11:50:39 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 27, 2010, 11:47:34 PM
Starting to see a bit more promise in this Antrim side now - all the Galls lads slotted in very well tonight, only bad news was Niblock going off injured after a hard hit to the ribs / shoulder - hopefully nothing too serious - he was playmaker for Antrim until he went off.  Healy fitted in well at corner back surprisingly enough - with Brady & McLean to fit in there its a tough call to name a team at this stage for championship - good problem to have thankfully.  CJ was a bit off form - missed all his shots at goal when he came on - just not his night.

Probably as big a crowd ive seen in casement for a league game in a long time.

In fairness Antrim do "bandwagon" as well as anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 02:45:09 AM
What was the lineup?

Niblock in FF?

Good win. Is that us definiitely promoted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 28, 2010, 11:57:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 02:45:09 AM
What was the lineup?

Niblock in FF?

Good win. Is that us definiitely promoted?

Yes, we're definitely promoted.  At the moment any one of five other teams could possibly fill the second spot ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 28, 2010, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: aontroim on March 27, 2010, 11:47:34 PM
Starting to see a bit more promise in this Antrim side now - all the Galls lads slotted in very well tonight, only bad news was Niblock going off injured after a hard hit to the ribs / shoulder - hopefully nothing too serious - he was playmaker for Antrim until he went off.  Healy fitted in well at corner back surprisingly enough - with Brady & McLean to fit in there its a tough call to name a team at this stage for championship - good problem to have thankfully.  CJ was a bit off form - missed all his shots at goal when he came on - just not his night.

Probably as big a crowd ive seen in casement for a league game in a long time.

According to the BBC Niblock's injury is not as bad as first thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 28, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on March 28, 2010, 11:57:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 02:45:09 AM
What was the lineup?

Niblock in FF?

Good win. Is that us definiitely promoted?

Yes, we're definitely promoted.  At the moment any one of five other teams could possibly fill the second spot ???

Actually on closer scrutiny of the table there is a series of results that could see us lose out??  Not home and hosed just yet...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 12:29:28 PM
There is a mathematical possibility if we lose against wexford we don't get promoted based on other results as  2 other teams can finish on 10.

Wwe'll just need to make sure and beat Wexford!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 28, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
Can anyone tell me what the lineup was last night please ?  Ta
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on March 28, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
Can anyone tell me what the lineup was last night please ?  Ta

J Finucane

A Healey
A Douglas
K O Boyle

T Scullion
J Crozier
s Kelly

M McCann
B Herron

T O Neill
K Niblock
J Loughrey

P Cunningham
G O Boyle
T McCann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 28, 2010, 03:03:46 PM
Cheers Minder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 04:03:45 PM
Interesting to see 4 st galls boys right back in there straight away. Particularly interesting to see Healy at corner back - points to it maybe being seen as a weak area by Baker.

Great to see Kelly back though you have to feel a bit for O'Hagan. I thought Terry O'Neill might have had to fight for his place in that team but looks like Baker may see him as an automatic. Very workman like HF line there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 04:27:01 PM
If the head to head rule applies over score difference. You sure it does?

I just assumed score difference - could be wrong. Hopefully.

<Edit>
I'm not sure head to head can apply. If all three of antrim, wexford and sligo finish on 10 and we beat sligo and sligo beat weford then on head to head sligo are ahead of wexford, we're ahead of sligo and wexford are ahead of us which obviously can't work...

Anyway - it would take a strange run of results to not see us promoted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on March 28, 2010, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 28, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
Hold on, we are officially promoted!

Wexford and Sligo are the only teams who can draw level with us on points.
We beat Sligo, so, on the 'head to head' rule we stay ahead of them.

Is that right?

Not according to this:

Press Release

The GAA wishes to confirm that where Teams in the National Leagues finish on equal points the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:

(i)                 Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;

(ii)               Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);

(iii)             Highest Total Score For;

(iv)              A Play-Off.

Exceptions:

In relation to means (ii) and (iii) above, if the accumulated scores of a team, so involved, are affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walk over, the tie shall be decided by a Play-Off.


Head to head only comes into play if it's just two teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
So wexford need to beat us by 9 and sligo win by 10.

Still I think / hope we can beat wexford anyway. By the look of it if we make it we'll be playing derry which would be interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 29, 2010, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
So wexford need to beat us by 9 and sligo win by 10.

Still I think / hope we can beat wexford anyway. By the look of it if we make it we'll be playing derry which would be interesting.

I make it that Wexford actually need to beat us by 10??  This and a ten point win for Sligo would leave the points diff Wex +17 Sligo +17 Antrim +16, thus Sligo and Wexford would go up??  If we lose by 9 the points diff would be Wex +16 Antrim +17 therefore Antrim would go up ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2010, 10:52:09 AM
Good point. 10 it is...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 29, 2010, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2010, 10:52:09 AM
Good point. 10 it is...

Hopefully this is an academic exercise in number crunching tommy.  I think we'll beat Wexford.  I was talking to some Tyrone friends over the weekend.  They're starting to sit up and take notice of Antrim. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2010, 02:02:08 PM
I think we'll beat wexford too.

Tyrone still a massive step. After all the years of listening to Tyrone people gloating it would be sweet but it's a massive massive ask!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 29, 2010, 02:24:20 PM
Aye, hopefully Mickey Harte will show a bit of respect this year and stop the practice of anglicising the given names of the Antrim players, as he was wont to do in his memoirs.

Hopefully too, the Baker will try to introduce some tactics aimed at competing with Tyrone. Going man for man with John Cavanagh would be a start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
Niall McKeever, while being excellent in a number of games last year, was found wanting in the mobility stakes in the Tyrone game and to me he was the one should have been marking John.

Our midfield should be significantly more mobile this year so hopefully that won't be as big a problem. Or we could always just foul him at the half way line and rotate the players that foul him so we get no sendings off...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Winnie Peg on March 29, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
Niall McKeever, while being excellent in a number of games last year, was found wanting in the mobility stakes in the Tyrone game and to me he was the one should have been marking John.

Our midfield should be significantly more mobile this year so hopefully that won't be as big a problem. Or we could always just foul him at the half way line and rotate the players that foul him so we get no sendings off...

Antrim teams and in particular your present county champions are very well versed in that practice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2010, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on March 29, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
Niall McKeever, while being excellent in a number of games last year, was found wanting in the mobility stakes in the Tyrone game and to me he was the one should have been marking John.

Our midfield should be significantly more mobile this year so hopefully that won't be as big a problem. Or we could always just foul him at the half way line and rotate the players that foul him so we get no sendings off...

Antrim teams and in particular your present county champions are very well versed in that practice.

don't you mean current All Ireland Champions? it's been a Tyrone Armagh tactic that has worked well for us ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on March 29, 2010, 11:14:58 PM
Anyone know if Kevin McGourty will be returning to the Antrim squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2010, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on March 29, 2010, 11:14:58 PM
Anyone know if Kevin McGourty will be returning to the Antrim squad?

Has he been asked?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Long Ball on March 31, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
Castlewellan Invitational Sevens
Sponsored by Azzurri


A Chara

I have pleasure in inviting your Club to participate in our Invitational seven-a-side senior football competition which will be held on Saturday 1st May 2010 in Castlewellan Co. Down. Our Club has been running a very successful men's annual seven-a-side competition for the past 30 years second only in stature to the Dublin Kilmacud Sevens with winners of the Castlewellan sevens receiving invitations each year to enter the prestigious Kilmacud Seven held on the eve of the All-Ireland final. Indeed many of the Castlewellan Sevens winners have gone on to win the Kilmacud Sevens in the same year.

Traditionally the Castlewellan Sevens have beed held on the eve of the All-Ireland hurling final but due to increasing club commitments at this time of years we have decided to relaunch our sevens competition in 2010 for the earlier date of Saturday May 1st. Also for the first time ever we will be hosting our Ladies annual seven-a-side competition on the same day. The winning team in each competitions this year will receive £1000.00 and runners-up £250.


This is an official GAA tournament and normal GAA rules apply, each participating club must obtain permission in writing from its respective County Committee. It is also a requirement that clubs are covered under the Players' Injury Scheme currently approved by Ard Chomhairle.

The Sevens are of course more than a highly competitive one-day competition. It is always a great social occasion and we can guarantee you a warm Co Down welcome to Castlewellan and to our Clubrooms where we will provide top quality meals for all players and officials and host a grand evenings entertainment. Many Clubs opt to stay over in some of the Town's fine guesthouses and local hotels a list of which is also attached.

I look forward to welcoming you to our Club on Saturday 1st May. A competition of this level with top quality prizes and meals for all competitors and officials makes it necessary for us to set a fee to off-set the expenses involved, the entry fee this year is £160stg per team or €180, please make cheques payable to Castlewellan G.A.C. Entry forms may be posted to secretary.castlewellan.down@gaa.ie


For further details of the competition including past winners etc please visit our website at  http://castlewellangac.webs.com/castlewellan7s.htm

Mise le mor-mheas

Rónán O'Cionga

Ronan O Cionga
Runai
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 31, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
f**king fuckety f**k. Is it Charlie and the f**king bhoys or Hannah f**king Montana responsible for the grand evenings (sic) entertainment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyGK on April 01, 2010, 10:31:29 PM
Rest In Peace Chris McCloskey, minor footballer and hurler and member of St Joseph's GAC Glenavy, who died tragically on Wednesday in a car accident.

Rest in peace buddy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2010, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on April 01, 2010, 10:31:29 PM
Rest In Peace Chris McCloskey, minor footballer and hurler and member of St Joseph's GAC Glenavy, who died tragically on Wednesday in a car accident.

Rest in peace buddy

terrible news, rest in peace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on April 08, 2010, 11:02:02 AM

Lads, abit of a random question but sure....why was only one team relegated from Div 3 last year in the County league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on April 08, 2010, 12:32:19 PM
I think its more a case of only 1 team being promoted from div 4.
The team who finished 2nd probably elected not to be promoted.

There is a big difference between divisions 3 and 4, with 3 containing mostly senior teams in the intermediate championship while div 4 has mainly reserve teams.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Who was relegated? Was it st johns? Rasharkin 2nds and st johns 2nds should have been relegated..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on April 08, 2010, 12:56:07 PM
just Rasharkin i think, st johns were in div 4 last year.
i think McDermotts finished 2nd bottom of div 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on April 08, 2010, 01:42:02 PM
Rasharkin 2nds finished bottom last year and McDermotts second bottom...only Rasharkin went dow.  Been told this year that two go down so makes me wonder why McDermotts were not relegated?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2010, 02:16:48 PM
It used to be one up one down and 2nd top play 2nd bottom.

Was there a playoff at all? That may explain it but not 100% sure...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 08, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
I believe its due to Gort na Mona pulling their second string out altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 08, 2010, 02:55:29 PM
Think Samba is correct - Gort if i remember right coasted to Div 4 title last season but this year are not in any of the leagues so instead of them going up as champions McDermotts look to have stayed in Div 3.

Something similar in hurling due to the granting of Lamh Dhearg's request to go into Div 2 - meant Cushendun were not relegated and stayed in Div 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on April 08, 2010, 03:20:33 PM
Cheers lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on April 08, 2010, 06:03:14 PM
Eire og and the aggies went up from div4 last year.  It was the same as this year with 2 up and 2 down.  If Mc dermotts didnt go down to div 4 how come 2 teams went up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 08, 2010, 06:43:32 PM
Aggies did not go up - they were already playing in Div 3 last year - Gort won Div 4 but have pulled out of leagues so only 1 team up and McDermotts stayed up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 08, 2010, 09:57:32 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on April 08, 2010, 06:03:14 PM
Eire og and the aggies went up from div4 last year.  It was the same as this year with 2 up and 2 down.  If Mc dermotts didnt go down to div 4 how come 2 teams went up?

Fair play to Eire Og and the Aggies--doin rightly to be in Div 3 (although Aggies have always been around there for last 10 years or so)

Seen Aggies have a great website with great old photos too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jodyb on April 09, 2010, 01:24:12 AM
In fairness HS, the whole ethos of the 'Club####' phenomenon has been directed in large parts to 'fat cats'. It probably makes sense in the regard that cash is not only king, but absolutely f##kin essential in the modern GAA landscape. Tyrone's example of the impetus that it can enable is enviable. I have to confess that imo the elitest approach is justified, if it results in success. I'm not one that will ever be in a position to make such a financial commitment, but if Club Derry's (at least Aontrom used the gaelic moniker) financial input results in success, then I'm just delighted to be on that bandwagon. :) Important caveat... not much sign of success at the minute >:( :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on April 09, 2010, 11:20:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 09, 2010, 12:54:09 AM
Club Aontroma's first major fundraising event of the GAA year takes place on Friday 23rd April when Liam 'Baker' Bradley will address guests at a unique breakfast event in the Wellington Park Hotel.

Antrim's most successful football manager of the modern era has transformed the fortunes of gaelic football's sleeping giant, and now Antrim stand on the brink of successive promotions from Division 4 to Division 2 of the National Football League. The Breakfast with Baker event is sponsored by Irwins Bakery and takes place the day before the Division 3 play off final when the Saffrons are expected to line out against either Wexford or Sligo. Bradley will share his insights into how he got the best from the players, and how the rules of the dressing room can apply to the boardroom.
Club Aontroma Chairman Colm McKenna said the Breakfast with Baker event is the first major Club Aontroma event of the year. "This could be a milestone year for Antrim on the pitch – the footballers are already looking at another promotion and the All Ireland club champions have just rejoined the squad. Dinny Cahill is working hard with the hurlers and I know that our camogie and ladies footballers also have big ambitions. Club Aontroma's ambitions are big too and following the successful National League draws the Breakfast with Baker morning is the next opportunity for saffron fans to show their support for the county."

Tables of ten are available at £300. Numbers are initentionally limited. To reserve a table contact Carl Whythe or Brendan Mulgrew on 02890 339949.

The event is sponsored by Irwin's Bakery


Can I be the first to say What The Fcuk? £30 for your breakfast and a chat with Baker. Supposedly sponsored by Irwin's Bakery? Are they donating a quid? This whole Club Aontroma stuff, while trying to get as much money as possible is directed at fat cat cappos. Fcuk that, not what the GAA is about imo and they can whistle for my half time draw money (which I have bought at every game). I'm disgusted by this.

So wait, you're angry that they're trying to get the money of fat cats, who can well afford it, rather than those less well off.

Hmmm   ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
but ordinary joe supporters would like to have a 'Chat' with Baker also. its  a tad expensive in times when 30 wouldn't get ya ten pints!

Bad enough paying a tenner into Casement to watch a match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 12:06:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
but ordinary joe supporters would like to have a 'Chat' with Baker also. its  a tad expensive in times when 30 wouldn't get ya ten pints!

Bad enough paying a tenner into Casement to watch a match.

get 5 cappos to stump up 45 quid each and the other 5 ordinary joes pay 15. hey presto
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on April 10, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
but ordinary joe supporters would like to have a 'Chat' with Baker also. its  a tad expensive in times when 30 wouldn't get ya ten pints!

Bad enough paying a tenner into Casement to watch a match.

Who the fcuk would want to chat with Baker never mind pay to chat with him!

He clears every bar in Derry that he walks into!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
I'd say you do the same!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2010, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on April 10, 2010, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
but ordinary joe supporters would like to have a 'Chat' with Baker also. its  a tad expensive in times when 30 wouldn't get ya ten pints!

Bad enough paying a tenner into Casement to watch a match.

Who the fcuk would want to chat with Baker never mind pay to chat with him!

He clears every bar in Derry that he walks into!

Well i'd say Derry could do with a good manager at the minute. Cassidy will suffer another defeat tomorrow and will be playing Antrim next year in th Div 2 thats for sure, though i doubt Cassidy will be in the a job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2010, 03:30:06 PM
Antrim game live on http://www.southeastradio.ie/

Level at start of 2nd half 1-6 Wex 0-9 Ant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2010, 04:22:51 PM
Beat by two. Still we're promoted - happy days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on April 12, 2010, 05:15:35 PM
Starting team for final? suggestions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 12, 2010, 07:27:06 PM
I just saw that Hardstation, I thought it was some sort of piss take.

'Strictly Antrim,'  peppered with county stars from Camogie, Hurling and Football along with guest Derry Camogie All-Star Grainne McGolderick and  Oak leaf Hurler Ruairi Convery, will take to the floor on Friday 30th April 2010 in the Tullyglass Hotel Ballymena.

All are set to dazzle and certainly entertain, as points are awarded by the panel of judges and the voting audience.

Judges on the night include All-Star Tipperary hurler Eoin Kelly and Antrim Football manager Liam Bradley.

Compare and 'Brucie' for the evening is the Antrim Camogie manager Mickey McCullough. His 'Brucie bonus' is co hostess and acclaimed Belfast  star of  Ann Robinson's 'The Weakest Link' ...Titty Von tr**p.

This is one night not to miss.

All Dancers are available to interview.

Contact details will be given on request.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2010, 07:32:04 PM
Anyone got the starting team from yesterday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
Cheers HS. Why's Gallagher in bold? Presumably as the only change from the last game (I think)?

Would be hoping to see Magill and McLean at least on that team come championship. Potentially McGourty too.

Would prefer Gallagher and McCann (Michael) swapped too and Tomas in the HF line...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 12, 2010, 08:12:39 PM
div 3 final set for Croker on 24th at 7pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on April 12, 2010, 08:32:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 07:24:16 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=1+Main+Poster%2Egif&w=500)

Is anyone going to this? Can you please post videos pictures of it afterwards?

My money is on Jane Adams and Loughrey (the lucky bollix).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2010, 08:36:44 PM
Croke park it is. Not sure I can make it unfortunately but good to see us in croke park.

I would share the same views HS about Gallagher. I think he's worth his place though. Not enough ball players in that HF line though... Though a lot of energy in it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on April 12, 2010, 08:52:01 PM
Magill played last fifteen for our club on sun so i think hes back full training this week which is good news - good luck to antrim - what a venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 12, 2010, 08:32:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 07:24:16 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=1+Main+Poster%2Egif&w=500)

Is anyone going to this? Can you please post videos pictures of it afterwards?

My money is on Jane Adams and Loughrey (the lucky bollix).

Nothing will happen there

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 12, 2010, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 12, 2010, 08:32:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2010, 07:24:16 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=1+Main+Poster%2Egif&w=500)

Is anyone going to this? Can you please post videos pictures of it afterwards?

My money is on Jane Adams and Loughrey (the lucky bollix).

Nothing will happen there

:o MR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on April 12, 2010, 11:34:26 PM
Probably best that we keep to the dancing.
Yesterday's performance was a disgrace to this County, and an insult to the supporters who travelled to Wexford.
No need to worry about ball players on the half forward line - we had no players there - I did see a couple of guys standing about in Antrim shirts but I presumed they were supporters?
In the supposed defence, the great tactical innovation (first seen against Louth) of five half backs, two of whom think they are playing centre half, while two others think are playing 'sweeper", and none of them know what they are doing, confounded Wexford - for a while! The Wexford forwards thought that their opponents might tackle them, but (with the exception of Crozier) the other four half backs, quickly let them know that Antrim doesn't do tackling -  any more! K O'Boyle was outstanding, and with Herron, and Mc Cann these three stopped Wexford winning by the 9-10 points, necessary to keep us in Div 3. Don't believe the match reports - we were awful! .
A quick stats check is worthwhile - 3 out of a total of 5 goals scored against Antrim, have been scored in the last 2 matches (Baker's mantra - no goals).We won 8 out of a possible 10 points, conceding 2 goals, to start the League, and managed 2 out of 4 points, conceding 3 goals to finish the League. What changed?
This is a different team to that which started the League campaign - Sligo to win by 6-12 points. God help us next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 13, 2010, 08:59:32 AM
 :D Catch yourself on you clown. I wasn't at the game so can't comment on the performance, but the majoirty of your post is utter rubbish. I'm assuming wind-up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: boro on April 11, 2010, 05:02:34 PM
Just back from a sun drenched Wexford Park. Good win for the lads but didn't matter in the end. Thought Antrim looked sharp, good movement in the forwards (unlike Wexford) and quick all round the pitch. Ye should do well come championship. Wexford were sluggish enough, still short a few lads, but these should be back for the start of the championship. We could definitely do with the likes of Matty and Banville back in the forwards. Congrats to Sligo and Antrim, but still a tiny bit annoyed at the wait it all played out. (beating both, but then points difference counting, Sligo playin a relegated Roscommon, etc). But sure that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Roll on the championship :)

Just copying in a post from a wexford man post the match on another thread. Guess he was at another match to northern light!

(We do have too many half forwards, well all of them, who would play deep though...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 14, 2010, 08:20:39 AM
I reckon Antrim would have beaten Wexford easily enough if the Saffrons had needed to win.

And if they all had been given proper beds in the hotel on the Saturday night, not those silly wee camp bed things.

Plus ça change.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 14, 2010, 12:57:43 PM
St Brigids  Portglenone  St. Brigids
Ahoghill  Lamh Dhearg  Ahoghill 
Creggan  Cargin  Creggan 
St. Johns  St. Galls  Corrigan Park 
St. Pauls  Moneyglass  St. Pauls

A few interesting ties tonight lads. Ahoghill Lamh Dearg a championship dress rehearsal. How will the Johnnies welcome their mates the new AI Champions? Cargin and Creggan a local derby, St Brigids Portglenone a repeat of last years Championship semi-final, and last but not least St Pauls v Moneyglass, who did the double in the fixture last year. Any predictions?

I go, St Brigids by 4
Lamh Dearg by 1
Cargin by 5
St Galls by 2
Moneyglass by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2010, 02:26:27 PM
"In my eyes, Kevin Niblock is probably the best number 11 in the country at the moment," said Bradley.

We know who is CHF against Tyrone then...

St Brigids by 1
Lamh Dhearg by 3
Cargin by 4
St Galls by 7
St Pauls by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 14, 2010, 10:27:49 PM
St Brigids    4-11   0-12   Portglenone       
Ahoghill    0-10   2-8   Lamh Dhearg       
Creggan    0-9   1-11   Cargin       
St. Johns    0-13   0-8   St. Galls       
St. Pauls    0-13   0-12   Moneyglass       
Few interesting results there, the Johnnies beating St Galls being the obvious standout. What sort of team had St Galls out? Heard Mick McCann was sent off for Cargin, any truth?
Think Portglenone will struggle this season.
As for my predictions, 3 out of 5 ain't bad, with 1 being spot on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 14, 2010, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Great display form the Johnnies tonight. Peter McGinnity controlled the game at midfield. Joe McGuinness played out of his skin in full back. Wee Andy and a very young Mickey Darragh did the damage up front.
Good 2 points secured.

Lump on the Johnnies for the championship.

Ha ha. Magic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2010, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2010, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2010, 10:58:40 PM
I see Gaelic Life are advertising on the county website. I wonder how much it is costing them.
Strange. It appears to have vanished.

Saw it earlier, huge writing that there was an interview with Paddy Cunningham this week in Gaelic Life
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: unitedireland on April 16, 2010, 02:42:46 PM
Are antrim going to beat tyrone in the championship?? Its an interesting one!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2010, 11:22:01 PM
I think Antrim will come out of the blocks flying. 0-4 to 0-0 after 8 minutes with three Hands frees and a Conor McGourty dink. The Saffron Roar will lift the roof off. O'Neill will convert a Musgy dive but Antrim will charge up the field which results in a scrappy Terry O'Neill goal off his backside -  1-4 to 0-1. The rest of the half sees it tit-for-tat and Antrim head into the changing rooms 1-9 to 0-6 ahead with the crowd baying, for pastie baps.

Tyrone emerge in the second half wearing new geansai (away strip) and proceed to chip away at the Antrim lead. Brian McGuigan is running amok with Cavanagh finding the room to sell the trademark dummy. Sean Kelly gives him £3.50 for one. On 50 minutes the scoreboard reads Tyrone 0-13 Antrim 1-10.

At that point a remarkable minor scuffle breaks out between Cunningham and McGourty with Hands apparently heard bellowing, "I turned yis down sure. I'm not bringin my chile up a Galls man." CJ whips out a mobile phone and tells Baker to get Paddy off in a disguised voice. Baker acts and brings on Herron for Cunningham. Hands is bemused at being replaced by a hurling clubmate and refuses to leave. They take off Veronica instead who retires to the bench to re-apply his lip gloss.

All the while Cavanagh is in deep discussion with Harte. Niblock for the BBC sticks his mic in and catches Sean telling Mickey that he has penned a 4-book deal and to shove his Disease of Me up his hole. Mickey responds by bringing on Colm the brother for Sean. Sean is bemused at being replaced by his taxi driver and refuses to leave. They take off Dooher instead who is instantly frozen in an ice casket for the next game.

Tyrone 0-15
Antrim 1-12.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
St Brigids    0-13   2-8   St. Johns    St. Brigids   Round 2   
St. Pauls    0-12   0-7   Creggan    St. Pauls   Round 2   
Moneyglass    1-9   1-12   Ahoghill    Moneyglass   Round 2   
Cargin    0-17   1-10   Lamh Dhearg    Cargin   Round 2

Some interesting results. St Johns have started off well. Great result for Ahoghill. It'll put Moneyglass in trouble. Also surprised to see St Pauls beat Creggan.

Business as usual for Cargin. I guess St Galls and Portglenone were meant to play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
Ports had a stag weekend arranged. played the game on Friday night. as station said, they were chinned. hope the stag party was better craic ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 19, 2010, 08:33:12 AM
Any of the SW posters fill us in on what happened in the Ahoghill (McCormick Cup?) match in which a referee was assualted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 20, 2010, 06:26:54 PM
Good new re Magill

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=127431

Not such good news for the players with a very tough session on Saturday the day before all league games... Could this not have waited until Tuesday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2010, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 20, 2010, 06:26:54 PM
Good new re Magill

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=127431

Not such good news for the players with a very tough session on Saturday the day before all league games... Could this not have waited until Tuesday?

bloody tough session tonight also and the lads have hurling league games tomorrow!! player burn out!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 23, 2010, 03:48:31 PM
Antrim:

1.  J Finucane (Lamh Dhearg)

2.  C Brady (St Galls)
3.  A McClean (St Galls)
4.  K O'Boyle (Cargin)

5.  T Scullion (Cargin)
6.  J Crozier (Cargin)
7.  S Kelly (St Galls)

8.  B Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
9.  M McCann (Cargin)

10.  T O'Neill (St Galls)
11.  CJ McGourty (St Galls)
12.  J Loughrey (St Brigids)

13.  P Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  M Magill (Randalstown)
15.  T McCann (Cargin)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
Good to see Magill back as we badly miss a target man.

CJ at CHF is an interesting one. Unfortunate on Douglas to lose out to McClean but I suppose it was going to happen sooner or later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 25, 2010, 09:47:35 AM
Brutal. :'(

A bad day at the office or a worrying malaise ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2010, 10:53:56 AM
Maybe not the worst thing to happen, some people were getting ahead of themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 25, 2010, 12:18:29 PM
Agreed Minder - that will hopefully remove any complacency that had been building around the team - last night all over the pitch players looked tired, or else they just decided not to push as hard as Sligo (which would be hard to understand).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 27, 2010, 08:58:48 AM
I know a lot of people won't agreee with me, and St Galls won't care, but that was a disgrace in Toome last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 27, 2010, 09:10:08 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on April 27, 2010, 08:58:48 AM
I know a lot of people won't agreee with me, and St Galls won't care, but that was a disgrace in Toome last night.

What happened ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 27, 2010, 09:27:01 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 27, 2010, 09:10:08 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on April 27, 2010, 08:58:48 AM
I know a lot of people won't agreee with me, and St Galls won't care, but that was a disgrace in Toome last night.

What happened ???
From the All-ireland final side, St Galls played 3 of the team - CJ in nets, Ronan Gallagher, a goalkeeper, in full-forward and Mark Kelly in the back line. Cargin gave them a guard of honour on to the pitch. Pity it wasn't for the All-Ireland Champions, but St Galls second string!
For neutral supporters like myself who paid £3 in expecting a good game, it was very disappointing, and in my opinion shows a lack of respect to their opponents and the competition itself. I understand the players need a break after a long season, but in their other league games at least some of the first team have featured.

Final score Cargin 2-23 St Galls 0-6 (or something close to that, I left long before the final whistle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 27, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Definite lack of respect shown to Cargin never mind the rest of the league but as was said before St Galls wont give a monkeys. They will be sitting in the long grass for most of the summer waiting for championship again, if Cargin would just get their heads together and use this lack of respect as a motivational tool to prepare for the championship we might get a game in the summer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2010, 02:43:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 27, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Definite lack of respect shown to Cargin never mind the rest of the league but as was said before St Galls wont give a monkeys. They will be sitting in the long grass for most of the summer waiting for championship again, if Cargin would just get their heads together and use this lack of respect as a motivational tool to prepare for the championship we might get a game in the summer.

christ lads give the lads a chance, some played a tough county game followed by a tough hurling match on the Sunday against Rossa and then expected to play Cargin down there!!!! relax lads St Galls do respect all the clubs (well maybe not St Johns ;))
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 28, 2010, 09:00:08 AM
Cargin had almost the same numbers in the county game as you had. No hurling granted, but how many took part in the hurling and the county game? I'd say CJ was possibly one of the few, and he seemed to want to play on Monday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2010, 04:42:27 PM
Samba , we are hardly a disgrace. there was five senior footballers hurling on sunday not including CJ.

if you want to give off about it then thats grand. they have young lads trying to make inroads into the senior team. playing Cargin in Toome will give the management a fair idea of the quality coming through, after that performance its not looking great.

I'd say Cargin would give up all their league titles to get to an All Ireland Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 28, 2010, 11:10:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2010, 04:42:27 PM
Samba , we are hardly a disgrace. there was five senior footballers hurling on sunday not including CJ.

if you want to give off about it then thats grand. they have young lads trying to make inroads into the senior team. playing Cargin in Toome will give the management a fair idea of the quality coming through, after that performance its not looking great.

I'd say Cargin would give up all their league titles to get to an All Ireland Final.
That goes without saying, anyone would. If they had got to an All-Ireland final, I don't believe they'd have sent an entire second string to Sr Galls, or any club for that matter.

Bringing young lads in to the team should ideally be done by bringing a few in a time, not a whole reserve team! This kind of hammering will have done nothing for these lads confidence.

As I say, I know St Galls won't give a toss. But to send an entire reserve team, to be clapped out on to the field by a guard og honour, was an embarassment. I know I wouldn't have paid £3 if I'd known it was going to be the case!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
Moneyglass 2-14 Cargin 0-15

I'd say that's the first time in a long long time Moneyglass have beaten Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 02, 2010, 03:11:36 AM
10 years. Cargin had all the county men, with the exception of Crozier who went on and then off again, on the field by the end of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
i'd have asked for my 3 quid back after that performance!!! Moneyglass for the antrim championship ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 04, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
First flights booked for Boston. Kevin "Boxer" Bradley will not be happy. Wheels coming off I fear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 04, 2010, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 04, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
First flights booked for Boston. Kevin "Boxer" Bradley will not be happy. Wheels coming off I fear.

The hurlers and footballers could charter a plane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on May 05, 2010, 09:00:01 PM
When does the antrim championship start ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
Not sure Atticus...

Big win for ahoghill over portglenone tonight. Be a good bit of rivalry there given the stinsons days...

Dunloy beat by 10 by Davitts. Dunloy mustn't be too strong this year...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2010, 10:03:44 PM
Antrim Div 1 Football
   
St Brigids  4-18               3-9 Moneyglass  St. Brigids Round 5 
St. Galls  0-13                0-4 St. Pauls  St. Galls Round 5 
Cargin  2-10                 0-15 St. Johns  Cargin Round 5 
Lamh Dhearg  0-16       1-8 Creggan  Lamh Dhearg Round 5 
Portglenone  1-7          2-15 Ahoghill  Portglenone Round 5 

Antrim Div 2 Football

Rasharkin  1-11        0-4 Sarsfields  Rasharkin Round 5 
Glenavy  1-11          0-14 Gort Na Mona  Glenavy Round 5 
All Saints  2-7          2-9 Aghagallon  All Saints Round 5 
Aldergrove  0-9       1-8 Rossa  Aldergrove Round 5 
Davitts  3-10           2-3 Dunloy  Davitts Round 5 

Antrim Div 3 Football
   
Ardoyne  1-12        2-12 St. Endas  Ardoyne Round 9 
Glenravel  1-7         0-5 St. Galls 2 Glenravel Round 9 
Tir na Nog  2-12     0-5 St. Agnes  Tir na Nog Round 9 
Eire Og  2-7           1-17 St. Teresas  Eire Og Round 9 

Antrim Div 4 Football

   
Cargin 3 2-14         3-7 Ballycastle  Cargin Round 9 
Creggan 2 1-11      2-6 Portglenone 2 Creggan Round 9 
St. Pauls 2 1-12      2-3 Glenavy 2 St. Pauls Round 9 
St. Johns 2 3-15     0-5 Rasharkin 2 Corrigan Park Round 9 
O Donnells  3-8        1-9 St Brigids 2 O Donnells


the Johnnies still improving, Jimmy must have them flying this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2010, 10:23:31 PM
Who's their coach? Jimmy who?

1 point away to cargin is a vast improvement on previous years. Didn't think they had the players any more. I guess we will tell come c'ship...

Odd sequences of results in division 1. Would have expected moneyglass to run st brigids, wouldn't have expected lamh dhearg to beat creggan or ahoghill to beat portglenone but big wins for both. Creggan yet to build on their promise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2010, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2010, 10:23:31 PM
Who's their coach? Jimmy who?

1 point away to cargin is a vast improvement on previous years. Didn't think they had the players any more. I guess we will tell come c'ship...

Odd sequences of results in division 1. Would have expected moneyglass to run st brigids, wouldn't have expected lamh dhearg to beat creggan or ahoghill to beat portglenone but big wins for both. Creggan yet to build on their promise.

Jimmy Wilson and John Kelly and Gerard Adams looking after them. aren't they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 06, 2010, 02:11:04 PM
The johnnies aren't a bad team the year, play good fast team football only dont get enough scores for all their possession.

Big big win for ahoghill last night and they should have beaten creggan last week.

Expected creggan to beat lamh dhearg. 

Every team really can beat every other team in the league bar st galls. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on May 09, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Anyone who has seen St. John's play this season will testify to the fact that they are simply "thugs", surviving due to poor refereeing. Their behaviour, on the pitch,  is a disgrace to the Association. Little difference from last year, and the previous year. The only change is they rotate the "dirty" play, to ensure they don't have men sent off. Presumably their mentors spent the Winter  coaching this aspect of their game? In truth there's not a game of decent football in them, and their best "scoring" is the number of yellow cards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on May 09, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Anyone who has seen St. John's play this season will testify to the fact that they are simply "thugs", surviving due to poor refereeing. Their behaviour, on the pitch,  is a disgrace to the Association. Little difference from last year, and the previous year. The only change is they rotate the "dirty" play, to ensure they don't have men sent off. Presumably their mentors spent the Winter  coaching this aspect of their game? In truth there's not a game of decent football in them, and their best "scoring" is the number of yellow cards.

being harsh there Northern Light. think the Johnnies have worked out that their past indiscipline has been their undoing and have in place a better system to insure they play the ball instead of the man!!

have not seen them play this year but by all accounts they have done well. Championships are won in September and this will be were all teams are judged.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 10, 2010, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on May 09, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Anyone who has seen St. John's play this season will testify to the fact that they are simply "thugs", surviving due to poor refereeing. Their behaviour, on the pitch,  is a disgrace to the Association. Little difference from last year, and the previous year. The only change is they rotate the "dirty" play, to ensure they don't have men sent off. Presumably their mentors spent the Winter  coaching this aspect of their game? In truth there's not a game of decent football in them, and their best "scoring" is the number of yellow cards.

Have played against them twice this year and I would also disagree with this statement. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 10, 2010, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on May 10, 2010, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on May 09, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Anyone who has seen St. John's play this season will testify to the fact that they are simply "thugs", surviving due to poor refereeing. Their behaviour, on the pitch,  is a disgrace to the Association. Little difference from last year, and the previous year. The only change is they rotate the "dirty" play, to ensure they don't have men sent off. Presumably their mentors spent the Winter  coaching this aspect of their game? In truth there's not a game of decent football in them, and their best "scoring" is the number of yellow cards.

Have played against them twice this year and I would also disagree with this statement. 

your not surely still playing !! I thought the 6" Nail would have been out by this stage !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 10, 2010, 02:55:52 PM
Still younger than you when you were still playing. lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 10, 2010, 04:18:38 PM
that wouldnt be hard, sure James'y and me is near the one age :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 10, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
Murray and Burke both away. Any others?

How many players are on the squad now?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 10, 2010, 08:39:22 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on May 10, 2010, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on May 09, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Anyone who has seen St. John's play this season will testify to the fact that they are simply "thugs", surviving due to poor refereeing. Their behaviour, on the pitch,  is a disgrace to the Association. Little difference from last year, and the previous year. The only change is they rotate the "dirty" play, to ensure they don't have men sent off. Presumably their mentors spent the Winter  coaching this aspect of their game? In truth there's not a game of decent football in them, and their best "scoring" is the number of yellow cards.

Have played against them twice this year and I would also disagree with this statement.

I wouldnt totally disagree.

They do have some football in them though now this year and seem to have come on.

They have 4 men at 6 ft 5 plus which is a serious advantage to have and somethin i've only seen before with cork's senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 12, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on May 10, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
Murray and Burke both away. Any others?

How many players are on the squad now?

O'Hagan & Burke??  Presumably Burke was told he wasn't starting agin Tyrone??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 13, 2010, 12:32:40 PM
Murray and Burke heading to Boston

is O'Hagan joining them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 13, 2010, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on May 13, 2010, 12:32:40 PM
Murray and Burke heading to Boston

is O'Hagan joining them?

See very last paragraph

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8673094.stm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2010, 04:00:45 PM
You have to feel for O'Hagan having played a lot of league games and then to be dropped almost straight away as soon as the Galls boys were back. Also given how weak we were in HB against Sligo he didn't get a game (if I recall correctly) so he maybe got the feeling the writing was on the wall...

It also doesn't say O'Hagan is away to the US - it says he's left the squad. ..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
well shows the quality of the man if he's willing to walk away rather than fight for his place. (if this is true)

i can remember fighting for positions on our senior hurling team and i knew that we had two quality players coming who'd take my position but rather give up i adopted a new role/position and played on for a few years.

point being, if Baker thought he was good enough in one position he is bound to have enough quality to push other players in other positions.

i hope its not the case that he dropped himself for that reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2010, 08:28:14 PM
Yeah - it is hard to know whether he did just walk away though - only speculation.

Leaves us less cover in HB line.

Young Murray wasn't getting much of a chance either and Burke came in a bit late and with Magill back he may have struggled.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on May 17, 2010, 10:15:47 PM
Bradley and Paddy Cunningham mixing with the celtic players

http://www.u.tv/Sport/Celtic-stars-at-Belfast-opening/20b77a4c-82cc-48bb-b337-e9471b4fa178

good championship prep!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on May 18, 2010, 10:04:40 AM
Twitter link on Antrim site says Kevin McGourty joined the panel last night and trained with the squad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 18, 2010, 10:07:37 AM
Its true enough, was in the Irish News today as well. Disgrace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: dodgy umpire on May 18, 2010, 10:15:53 AM
Everything else aside, surely he deserves a place on talent ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 10:17:10 AM
This is a call for the manager and the manager alone if he wants him in and can work with him then no harm done. After the showing on sunday from Celtic park, anything that would avoid a match like that would be fine with me. That was the best advert for hurling that there ever was.

He is a major talent who needs managed and that up to Baker. As long as it doesnt cause any ill feeling within the squad then dont have a big issue with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 18, 2010, 10:25:38 AM
Thats the thing, surely it will cause a lot of disharmony in the squad. I imagine (well actually, its fairly obvious) that he isn't exactly best friends with a few lads on the team. If he comes in at this stage and takes someones place at this stage, its going to have a knock-on effect to a few other players. Not to mention the lads on the bench who have trained all season hoping for a chance, then a week before the big game he's invited back on to the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 18, 2010, 11:44:29 AM
Cant understand why you would bring him back the week before championship for any other reason that to take the attention away from the squad.  There is no way kmg could be up to the speed and fitness level required to play senior county football.  If Baker thinks he is good enough to play for antrim then why was he not asked in after the club all-ireland  like all the rest of the galls lads.
I dont buy the fact that he was studying in dublin as an excuse, its not the other side of the world.

Cant see him starting on sunday, hoping for a good hard team performance.
Team
Finucane
brady, mclean, kob
scullion, crozier, loughrey
mc cann, gallagher
tomas, brady, oneill
cunningham, the bear, cj

Niblock, kelly and douglas making an appearance at some stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2010, 11:57:56 AM
Pebble-dasher so is that your predicted team or the actual team??

who is the bear??

This has got to be a wind up about kevin mcgourty. I don't see how it can be in any way positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 18, 2010, 12:21:57 PM
Actual team hasn't been named yet. I doubt Kevin Brady or 'the Bear' (Magill I presume) will start, although I would have both on. I'd say Niblock and Kelly will start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2010, 12:30:10 PM
I hoping for a good start from Antrim on Sunday, if the pressure is kept on Tyrone then anything can happen.

I'd say Antrim will have a 8 man defence and we will find it hard to create scores. there will have to be a serious amount of support play and lads will have to empty the tank. so it will be good to have the likes of Kevin there to maybe come on and take on Tyrone, as physically we are small (bar Magill if he is playing)

should be a low scoring game. 2-12 to 1-14 for Antrim!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 18, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
MR2...I'd agree a good start will include making sure that Tyrone don't rattle over five or six points in the first 15 mins as I think the Tyrone stategy will be to go out and bury this overhyped Div 3 team (in their eyes) as soon as possible.  Agree too that we're unlikely to run up a big score so any goal chance has to be buried

Anyone know the latest on injuries to Niblock, Herron and poss Magill??  Could the arrival of KMcG be due to the fact that one or all of these players won't start??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 18, 2010, 12:57:14 PM
2-12 to 1-14 lowscoring?  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on May 18, 2010, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 18, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
MR2...I'd agree a good start will include making sure that Tyrone don't rattle over five or six points in the first 15 mins as I think the Tyrone stategy will be to go out and bury this overhyped Div 3 team (in their eyes) as soon as possible.  Agree too that we're unlikely to run up a big score so any goal chance has to be buried

Anyone know the latest on injuries to Niblock, Herron and poss Magill??  Could the arrival of KMcG be due to the fact that one or all of these players won't start??

Nail on the head there AQMP I think! Niblock is the "best CHF in the country" and would be Baker's first choice obviously. If Niblock is not available and nobody else has made that position their own to date then cue the "Maverick Genius" pose...

Herron and Gallagher MF, KMcG CHF and Mick McCann FF!

BTW the "Maverick Genius" pose in this case refers to Baker, although equally...  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2010, 01:46:15 PM
I would be surprised if Magill doesn't start. He wasn't fit against Sligo and he has been playing club games since.

Not sure on Herron or Niblock's fitness but Magill should be ok - he's been playing club games for Randalstown.

Niblock, as the best CHF in the country according to Baker, would be expected to, if fit , start. While Kelly had a stinker in the league final he should still start.

McGourty could be due to absence of a FF or a CHF... I don't think we can seriously consider the HF line we had against Sligo again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 18, 2010, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on May 18, 2010, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 18, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
MR2...I'd agree a good start will include making sure that Tyrone don't rattle over five or six points in the first 15 mins as I think the Tyrone stategy will be to go out and bury this overhyped Div 3 team (in their eyes) as soon as possible.  Agree too that we're unlikely to run up a big score so any goal chance has to be buried

Anyone know the latest on injuries to Niblock, Herron and poss Magill??  Could the arrival of KMcG be due to the fact that one or all of these players won't start??

Nail on the head there AQMP I think! Niblock is the "best CHF in the country" and would be Baker's first choice obviously. If Niblock is not available and nobody else has made that position their own to date then cue the "Maverick Genius" pose...

Herron and Gallagher MF, KMcG CHF and Mick McCann FF!

BTW the "Maverick Genius" pose in this case refers to Baker, although equally...  ;D

Likewise OTPAW...could be you've hit the nail on the head there!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2010, 02:08:34 PM
I really can't see Magill not starting. He's been good in the league and wasn't fit for the league final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 18, 2010, 02:49:26 PM
It was just a guess at the team.  If niblocks fit then by all means start him for in centre half forward.  I like the half back line of scullion crozier and loughrey, to play sean kelly it means playing loughrey in the half forwards.  I prefer him bombing up and down from half back.  Would be a tough call to drop scullion for kelly as loughrey is a cert starter.

Ay the bear magill!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
I think SK for TS is a bit of a no brainer, he is a better all round footballer, gives a better range of passing and is more intelligent on the ball. not much of a contest there against the energy TS brings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 18, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
I think SK for TS is a bit of a no brainer, he is a better all round footballer, gives a better range of passing and is more intelligent on the ball. not much of a contest there against the energy TS brings.

would have to agree with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 18, 2010, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: glens abu on May 18, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
I think SK for TS is a bit of a no brainer, he is a better all round footballer, gives a better range of passing and is more intelligent on the ball. not much of a contest there against the energy TS brings.

would have to agree with that.


without doubt kelly is a superior footballer, with a better brain, skill level and can take a score, just saying it is a tough call and would be harsh on scullion. 

Its been ten years since a packed saffron casement!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 03:09:46 PM
Would be a tough call alright. Lets just hope for a better game than in celtic park!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2010, 03:13:57 PM
The way TS has been playing he can't be dropped.

He was very good in league final when all around him were found wanting.

Loughrey could play in HF a la Terry O'Neill last year alright. However if he does there is no place for Terry O'Neill I would have thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on May 18, 2010, 11:58:13 PM
Here's my team for Sunday:

                 Finucane
Brady          McClean     KOB
Kelly           Crozier        TS
             Aidso   Herron
Tomas        Mick Mc     Loughrey
Hands         Magill        CJ

Need a physical midfield pairing against Tyrone and i think that's the most physical Antrim have got.

if Herron is not fit then i'd slot Mick McCann back in there and play Niblock.

Wouldn't be a bad bench with the likes of Niblock, T O'Neill, Douglas, Paul Doc and the prodigal S(affr)ON.

In the bookies eyes, Antrim have come along way in a year.  when the pair met in the ulster final i think antrim were 8/1 and +8 on the handicap.

They're 3 or 4/1 with most bookies and +4 on the handicap.

I think it'll be a great game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2010, 09:51:34 AM
That is exactly the team I would like to see Atticus.

Niblock off the bench would be useful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 19, 2010, 10:46:08 AM
Are Tyrone seriously thinking of playing C Cavanagh? Is it just me or can anyone else see anything in this lad? Watched him a good few times now through colleges football right up and I must be missing something seriously if he makes any Tyrone team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 19, 2010, 05:08:46 PM
Wouldn't agree with you on team selection. Think it will be more like this;

Mcgreevy; brady,douglas,o'boyle; scullion,crozier,kelly;gallagher,herron;
T mccann, niblock, loughrey; cunningham, m mccann, cj or g o'boyle.

Magill won't start!
Again a very good bench to pick from.

Not sure what to expect on sunday, if antrim can replicate the first 20 mins against louth, there could be a major shock on cards.

But tyrone are a wounded animal and will easily go about their business as they know how in championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 19, 2010, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on May 19, 2010, 05:08:46 PM
Wouldn't agree with you on team selection. Think it will be more like this;

Mcgreevy; brady,douglas,o'boyle; scullion,crozier,kelly;gallagher,herron;
T mccann, niblock, loughrey; cunningham, m mccann, cj or g o'boyle.

Magill won't start!
Again a very good bench to pick from.

Not sure what to expect on sunday, if antrim can replicate the first 20 mins against louth, there could be a major shock on cards.

But tyrone are a wounded animal and will easily go about their business as they know how in championship.

i'd say thats pretty much it with maybe Loughrey wing back and Crozier wing forward with Kelly at 6.

Tomas and PC will play off Mick and half forward line may be TON, Niblock and Crozier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 19, 2010, 10:37:34 PM
Aye the word is he's busted with flu.

Word is Magill may be gone like the wind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: firehill on May 20, 2010, 07:44:26 AM
TEAM FOR TYRONE GAME AS OF ANTRIM GAA WEBSITE

1John Finucane
2 Colin Brady [Capt]
3 Aaron Douglas
4 Kevin O' Boyle
5 Tony Scullion
6 Justin Crozier
7 Sean Kelly
8 Aodhan Gallagher
9 Brendan Herron
10 Terry O' Neill
11 Kevin Niblock
12 James Loughrey
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Michael Mc Cann
15 Tomás Mc Cann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 20, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: firehill on May 20, 2010, 07:44:26 AM
TEAM FOR TYRONE GAME AS OF ANTRIM GAA WEBSITE

1John Finucane
2 Colin Brady [Capt]
3 Aaron Douglas
4 Kevin O' Boyle
5 Tony Scullion
6 Justin Crozier
7 Sean Kelly
8 Aodhan Gallagher
9 Brendan Herron
10 Terry O' Neill
11 Kevin Niblock
12 James Loughrey
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Michael Mc Cann
15 Tomás Mc Cann

Hmmmm....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 20, 2010, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: firehill on May 20, 2010, 07:44:26 AM
TEAM FOR TYRONE GAME AS OF ANTRIM GAA WEBSITE

1John Finucane
2 Colin Brady [Capt]
3 Aaron Douglas
4 Kevin O' Boyle
5 Tony Scullion
6 Justin Crozier
7 Sean Kelly
8 Aodhan Gallagher
9 Brendan Herron
10 Terry O' Neill
11 Kevin Niblock
12 James Loughrey
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Michael Mc Cann
15 Tomás Mc Cann

think thats about the best he could get with McClean sick and Magill gone.come on the wee SAFFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 20, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: glens abu on May 20, 2010, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: firehill on May 20, 2010, 07:44:26 AM
TEAM FOR TYRONE GAME AS OF ANTRIM GAA WEBSITE

1John Finucane
2 Colin Brady [Capt]
3 Aaron Douglas
4 Kevin O' Boyle
5 Tony Scullion
6 Justin Crozier
7 Sean Kelly
8 Aodhan Gallagher
9 Brendan Herron
10 Terry O' Neill
11 Kevin Niblock
12 James Loughrey
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Michael Mc Cann
15 Tomás Mc Cann

think thats about the best he could get with McClean sick and Magill gone.come on the wee SAFFS

What's the story with Magill??  Told he wasn't starting an threw the toys out??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 20, 2010, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 20, 2010, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: glens abu on May 20, 2010, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: firehill on May 20, 2010, 07:44:26 AM
TEAM FOR TYRONE GAME AS OF ANTRIM GAA WEBSITE

1John Finucane
2 Colin Brady [Capt]
3 Aaron Douglas
4 Kevin O' Boyle
5 Tony Scullion
6 Justin Crozier
7 Sean Kelly
8 Aodhan Gallagher
9 Brendan Herron
10 Terry O' Neill
11 Kevin Niblock
12 James Loughrey
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Michael Mc Cann
15 Tomás Mc Cann

think thats about the best he could get with McClean sick and Magill gone.come on the wee SAFFS

What's the story with Magill??  Told he wasn't starting an threw the toys out??

heard he was thrown off the panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 20, 2010, 09:59:37 AM
Well Glens whats the story there then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on May 20, 2010, 02:37:28 PM
Interested to know the story with Magill, got the impression he was really up for it this year after a few impressive performances in the league.

PM me if you don't want to put it out on the board.  Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 02:45:40 PM
aye pm you as the last person shit himself when Magill came on here wanting to level someone who had a pop at his performance for Antrim a while back!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2010, 02:47:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 02:45:40 PM
aye pm you as the last person shit himself when Magill came on here wanting to level someone who had a pop at his performance for Antrim a while back!!!!

The Real Slim Shady was it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: MichaelMagill on December 05, 2006, 12:43:19 PM
Just reading through your carbage JohnJoe,  You seem to have some personal issue you need to sort out with me.  Im sorry Delargy embarressed you lot - its just not the way football is done in my eyes. You talk about these hiding places - least i get to the stage were i can hide as you say.  Anyway this is me so who are you and stop hiding behind your little computer screen.Dont expect you too as one of you qualities is prob a lack of balls-prove me wrong. slan

Johnjoe, minder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bigfrank on May 20, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
Tyrone team for sunday:

P McConnell, M Swift, Justin McMahon, D Carlin, D Harte, R McMenaminn, P Jordan,, K Hughes, C Cavanagh, B Dooher, S Cavanagh, Joe McMahon, M Penrose, S O'Neill, O Mulligan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 09:22:07 PM
we can beat that, cant we?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 09:28:57 PM
well i'm starting off bout 1.30pm at the club, then head up to Casement for about 2.30
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 09:35:26 PM
i'm worried they will have a bed ready for me!!!! i'll call for one
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 21, 2010, 08:34:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: MichaelMagill on December 05, 2006, 12:43:19 PM
Just reading through your carbage JohnJoe,  You seem to have some personal issue you need to sort out with me.  Im sorry Delargy embarressed you lot - its just not the way football is done in my eyes. You talk about these hiding places - least i get to the stage were i can hide as you say.  Anyway this is me so who are you and stop hiding behind your little computer screen.Dont expect you too as one of you qualities is prob a lack of balls-prove me wrong. slan

Johnjoe, minder

That's a very good post from Magill. Uncanny you could say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
Whats the good word on Magill then?

Do we take it reading between the lines that it was a breach of discipline that has cost him his place in the squad? Of what nature?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 21, 2010, 11:15:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
Whats the good word on Magill then?

Do we take it reading between the lines that it was a breach of discipline that has cost him his place in the squad? Of what nature?

Swallies??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on May 21, 2010, 11:54:29 AM
Not that - heard at our match wed night , involved brad and another member, heated row lets say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 21, 2010, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: otbar on May 21, 2010, 11:54:29 AM
Not that - heard at our match wed night , involved brad and another member, heated row lets say.

Quinn is right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:17:19 PM
Loose cannon and always was!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Overthebar! on May 21, 2010, 02:23:23 PM
watch what you say, he might sign back on and tell you off...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
And I will tell him the same thing  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on May 21, 2010, 02:43:34 PM
Thats true lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on May 21, 2010, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
And I will tell him the same thing  :D

wise up son, if magill showed his face here, you'd be gone to the hills. Good player but silly to do what he done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2010, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on May 21, 2010, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
And I will tell him the same thing  :D

wise up son, if magill showed his face here, you'd be gone to the hills. Good player but silly to do what he done.

Why is he an expert at tracing and destroying GaaBoard usernames?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on May 21, 2010, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 21, 2010, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on May 21, 2010, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
And I will tell him the same thing  :D

wise up son, if magill showed his face here, you'd be gone to the hills. Good player but silly to do what he done.

Why is he an expert at tracing and destroying GaaBoard usernames?

haha heard hes good on th computers now ye say it but u know what i mean. I'd say if he approached you on this you still wudnt reply even behind your wee username. haha :D but thats here nor there, he did what he did ands hes sufferin the consequences
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2010, 12:05:51 PM
just read Scullion's match preview and histake on the came coming up, usual stuff 'we're no world beaters' 'no medals won' 'Antrim havent gained any respect'

then he goes on to say that the Galls lads didn't adjust to the step up from county and club games in the last few games they played for Antrim!!

so by that train of thought Cargin should win the County Final this year as they have 6 players on the county squad training at a level above club teams so thats a serious advantage for them.

who beat Cargin in the league this year??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2010, 04:51:10 PM
MR if you watched the sligo game and analysed the galls players performance (unbiasedly) then you'd agree with him! (McLean was ok up till the last 10 minutes but that aside...)

Those boys have had a hell of a year and full respect to them but the galls players were all very poor against Sligo. I'd be surprised if they didn't agree with that themselves to be honest. I can't speak for the other 2 (or 3) games as I didn't see them.

I don't see how you equate what he says with cargin should win the county final this year - doesn't make sense at all. Cargin have ~6 county players. There are 9/10 other players on the team. I think you're just seeing red with that comment though.

The county year is far from over. The Galls players haven't adapted yet but they will hopefully have plenty of time.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2010, 11:21:47 AM

he was having a dig at the St Galls players, Antrim were shite collectively against Sligo and the management in my view and i put it on here at the time should have kept the players who had nearly won promotion on.

my point being that Cargin should win is tht they have 6+ players playing at a different level to St Galls, i'm being pedantic of course ::)

has anyone read the Sunday Life? i'm embarrassed by the write up from Damian Walsh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2010, 10:50:55 PM
Who is that boy Walsh? What a tool.

Rather than make the tough call between Sean Kelly and James Loughrey Baker Bradley opted for playing Kelly out of position he says. Kelly played left half back and Loughrey wing half forward as per Sean Kelly's natural position and the same position Loughrey played in the whole league.

Also Loughrey has been lauded as someone who'd get on nearly any county team about so what is he doing questioning him...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on May 25, 2010, 09:14:39 PM
Two mcgourty lads out on the sat night in the dock area.  Why did baker play them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on May 25, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: otbar on May 25, 2010, 09:14:39 PM
Two mcgourty lads out on the sat night in the dock area.  Why did baker play them?

Probably because they are two off the top foorballers not alone in Antrim but in ulster. I couldnt imagine wat Tyrone would have won by hadnt they been introduced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2010, 10:05:41 PM
Quote from: otbar on May 25, 2010, 09:14:39 PM
Two mcgourty lads out on the sat night in the dock area.  Why did baker play them?

they were working on the boats otbar. thats what ya do at the docks. some of the other lads that played on Sundy should have been workng at the docks!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on May 26, 2010, 01:25:51 PM
Quote from: otbar on May 25, 2010, 09:14:39 PM
Two mcgourty lads out on the sat night in the dock area.  Why did baker play them?

Sh*tstirrer - cop yourself on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on May 26, 2010, 01:59:43 PM
It was friday sorry and he was drinking a an event - spotted by a few people including a gaa pundit.  The younger brother was caught to.  This is common knowledge and factual so no stirring shit.  Im sure more will be heard before end of week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
just seen three South West County players knocking back a bottle of buckfast outside Lavery's.

no shit stirring ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 26, 2010, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2010, 12:05:51 PM
just read Scullion's match preview and histake on the came coming up, usual stuff 'we're no world beaters' 'no medals won' 'Antrim havent gained any respect'

then he goes on to say that the Galls lads didn't adjust to the step up from county and club games in the last few games they played for Antrim!!

so by that train of thought Cargin should win the County Final this year as they have 6 players on the county squad training at a level above club teams so thats a serious advantage for them.

who beat Cargin in the league this year??
Moneyglass.

The rest of your post is a pile of balls, you've taken what he said in completely the wrong context.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 26, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
just seen three South West County players knocking back a bottle of buckfast outside Lavery's.

no shit stirring ::)

Personally I think these no drinking rules are a load of balls.  It's an amateur game, these guys put in a hell of a lot of time and effort and if they enjoy a couple of pints WTF??  It seems to be par for the course for English soccer players to spend a good deal of their time hammered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on May 28, 2010, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
just seen three South West County players knocking back a bottle of buckfast outside Lavery's.

no shit stirring ::)

Suppose you went over and checked what you had they had for dinner MR2!!!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2010, 10:46:05 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on May 26, 2010, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2010, 12:05:51 PM
just read Scullion's match preview and histake on the came coming up, usual stuff 'we're no world beaters' 'no medals won' 'Antrim havent gained any respect'

then he goes on to say that the Galls lads didn't adjust to the step up from county and club games in the last few games they played for Antrim!!

so by that train of thought Cargin should win the County Final this year as they have 6 players on the county squad training at a level above club teams so thats a serious advantage for them.

who beat Cargin in the league this year??
Moneyglass.

The rest of your post is a pile of balls, you've taken what he said in completely the wrong context.

Wrong context!! explain?

the performances from the players that have been training with the county from the start of the league was mainly poor.

k O boyle (corner back)  was very good thoughout
loughrey good in parts
struggling now!!!
no can't think of any oh
Crozier good in parts also

my point being, Tony could have done his interview better, he was negitive to a certain club. i know they ask leading questions but you dont fall into that trap.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 29, 2010, 11:41:42 AM
Are you denying that club football is different than county football? Because that is pretty much what Tony said, I don't think he used the phrase 'step up'm I think what he said was 'adjust'. Which, at the time of interview at least, was probably fairly accurate as the team had lost 3 from 4 when the St Galls players returned. Tony wasn't blaming this on the players, but just said it was a factor. I think he also states that they had by that stage adjusted.

Since I no longer have the article I can't back this up but as I say from my original reading of it you've taken in entirely the wrong context.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2010, 12:16:43 PM
MR you seem to have over analysed this a lot IMO.

Also based on your reaction to it and the fact you posted during the week that three "south west" players were drinking buckfast during the week would imply to me that the city - country split (which I had thought was gone) is very much alive and well in your eyes. (I don't know why you had to say three south west players were drinking buckfast and not three county players)

Some country players were good on sunday and some some country players were poor. Some city players were very good and some city players were very poor too. There was no correlation between how they played and where they were from so again I don't see why you were drawing any.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on June 02, 2010, 02:04:21 AM
With antrim now off back of a string of bad competitive results and performances where do you think they should go now? Personally, id get rid off th mcgourtys and brady for whoever. Although must be said brady been a great servant but must work harder to retain his place. And in case someone thinks im 'out te get st galls' (mr2) i believe aodhan gallaghers the best in th county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2010, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: otbar on May 26, 2010, 01:59:43 PM
It was friday sorry and he was drinking a an event - spotted by a few people including a gaa pundit.  The younger brother was caught to.  This is common knowledge and factual so no stirring shit.  Im sure more will be heard before end of week.

relax lads i didn't see any South west county players drinking Buckfast, i was just winding this balloon up. there is no north south divide in football. maybe some rivalry  between Galls and Cargin men but nothing too bad.

I'll stand over my assessment of the game and who stood out as having a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2010, 10:01:27 PM
Antrim Div 1 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St Brigids  1-11 0-14 Cargin  St. Brigids Round 8 
Lamh Dhearg  1-13 0-12 St. Galls  Lamh Dhearg Round 8 
Portglenone  2-12 1-12 Moneyglass  Portglenone Round 8 
Creggan  1-13 3-4 St. Johns  Creggan Round 8 
Antrim Div 2 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Dunloy  2-9 1-29 Aghagallon  Dunloy Round 8 
Davitts  1-9 1-14 Gort Na Mona  Davitts Round 8 
All Saints  0-11 1-5 Glenavy  All Saints Round 8 
Antrim Div 3 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St. Agnes  2-7 3-13 Ardoyne  St. Agnes Round 12 
Eire Og  0-11 2-15 Cargin 2 Eire Og Round 12 
Tir na Nog  1-11 1-14 St. Endas  Tir na Nog Round 12 
Antrim Div 4 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Rasharkin 2 4-20 1-9 Cargin 3 Rasharkin Round 12 
O Donnells  0-11 2-7 Creggan 2 O Donnells Round 12 
St. Johns 2 1-11 0-10 Ballycastle  Corrigan Park Round 12 
St Brigids 2 0-16 2-6 Glenavy 2 St. Brigids Round 12 
Antrim Div 5 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
All Saints 2 2-15 2-8 St. Galls 3 All Saints Round 8 
St. Malachys  1-6 0-6 Lamh Dhearg 2 TBC Round 8 
St. Endas 2 4-20 1-5 Moneyglass 2 St. Endas Round 8 
Antrim Div 6 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Aldergrove 2 0-13 2-6 Tir na Nog 2 Aldergrove Round 8


we lost all three games tonight!!!

was playing against ballymena tonight, good game with a decent referee who applied the rules very well. good man yourself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 02, 2010, 10:13:44 PM
they will be dancing in the streets of Lamh Dearg tonight !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
The street of lamh dearg surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2010, 10:41:06 PM
Yes i'd say they are dancing, big threat for Championship. decent team and have always been close. shaping up for a good championship season in the football.

Ballymena beat Glenavy on the top pitch while we played down below. they also have another pitch in the making, great set up they have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 02, 2010, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2010, 10:01:27 PM
Antrim Div 1 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St Brigids  1-11 0-14 Cargin  St. Brigids Round 8 
Lamh Dhearg  1-13 0-12 St. Galls  Lamh Dhearg Round 8 
Portglenone  2-12 1-12 Moneyglass  Portglenone Round 8 
Creggan  1-13 3-4 St. Johns  Creggan Round 8 
Antrim Div 2 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Dunloy  2-9 1-29 Aghagallon  Dunloy Round 8 
Davitts  1-9 1-14 Gort Na Mona  Davitts Round 8 
All Saints  0-11 1-5 Glenavy  All Saints Round 8 
Antrim Div 3 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St. Agnes  2-7 3-13 Ardoyne  St. Agnes Round 12 
Eire Og  0-11 2-15 Cargin 2 Eire Og Round 12 
Tir na Nog  1-11 1-14 St. Endas  Tir na Nog Round 12 
Antrim Div 4 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Rasharkin 2 4-20 1-9 Cargin 3 Rasharkin Round 12 
O Donnells  0-11 2-7 Creggan 2 O Donnells Round 12 
St. Johns 2 1-11 0-10 Ballycastle  Corrigan Park Round 12 
St Brigids 2 0-16 2-6 Glenavy 2 St. Brigids Round 12 
Antrim Div 5 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
All Saints 2 2-15 2-8 St. Galls 3 All Saints Round 8 
St. Malachys  1-6 0-6 Lamh Dhearg 2 TBC Round 8 
St. Endas 2 4-20 1-5 Moneyglass 2 St. Endas Round 8 
Antrim Div 6 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Aldergrove 2 0-13 2-6 Tir na Nog 2 Aldergrove Round 8


we lost all three games tonight!!!

was playing against ballymena tonight, good game with a decent referee who applied the rules very well. good man yourself

A mistake?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2010, 10:46:40 PM
Aghagallon 1-29. That's like a hurling score!

Ballymena have had a good set-up for a few years. They must have improved the low pitch as there used to be a few potholes in it.

St Galls wouldn't be taking the league too seriously imagine. Wouldn't read too much into it. Mind you Lamh Dhearg should have the players to challenge Cargin for number 2 in county though Murray will be a loss. (They should have Cunningham, 2 Herrons, Lynch, Finucane and a few boys like Tumeltys who can play a bit)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 03, 2010, 07:46:24 AM
Interesting division one this year.

St Johns on fire early on, recently beaten by both Portglenone and Creggan from the foot of the table.

The two teams who got promoted last year have added a freshness, cause they have been taking a lot of points, instead of the usual scramble for survival.

Especially for the teams in the lower half, every game from now on is meaningful. And the way it looks, any team can put it up to anyone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 07, 2010, 05:58:13 PM
Is this as in tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 08, 2010, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 07, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
YES! Well done Antrim. Great result.

Good result alright hardstation,have you any idea about the strength of the two sides
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on June 08, 2010, 12:43:08 PM
All I know is that 3 periods were played, so I imagine most or all the squad got a run out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 09, 2010, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: glens abu on June 08, 2010, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 07, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
YES! Well done Antrim. Great result.

Good result alright hardstation,have you any idea about the strength of the two sides

Means absolutely feck all unless translated into a couple of qualifier wins*

* I refer you to my new stance of pessimism re all things Antrim previously noted above or on the Antrim hurling forum
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Cargin see off Naomh Pol 9 points to 8 tonight, in a game notable only for a shocking performance by the referee.  Doogan from Creggan I think he is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Cargin see off Naomh Pol 9 points to 8 tonight, in a game notable only for a shocking performance by the referee.  Doogan from Creggan I think he is.
Doogan should not do Cargin games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 10:28:37 PM
Cushendall  2-11 4-7 Ballycastle  Loughgiel   
Antrim Div 1 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St Brigids  2-12 0-13 Ahoghill  St. Brigids Round 9 
St. Johns  0-16 2-4 Lamh Dhearg  Corrigan Park Round 9 
Moneyglass  2-4 0-16 St. Galls  Moneyglass Round 9 
Antrim Div 2 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Rossa  1-8 1-11 Davitts  Rossa Round 9 
Aghagallon  1-10 0-12 Aldergrove  Aghagallon Round 9 
Gort Na Mona  0-13 4-4 All Saints  Gort Na Mona Round 9 
Sarsfields  0-8 0-14 Glenavy  Sarsfields Round 9 
Rasharkin  2-15 0-7 Dunloy  Rasharkin Round 9 
Antrim Div 3 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Glenravel  0-4 1-11 Ardoyne  Glenravel Round 13 
Mc Dermotts  2-5 3-10 Tir na Nog  Mc Dermotts Round 13 
St. Endas  4-14 1-7 Eire Og  St. Endas Round 13 
Cargin 2 1-6 0-8 St. Teresas  Cargin Round 13 
St. Galls 2 4-13 0-11 St. Agnes  St. Galls Round 13 
Antrim Div 4 Football
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Glenavy 2 2-7 1-12 St. Johns 2 Glenavy Round 13 
Creggan 2 3-9 1-7 St. Pauls 2 Creggan Round 13

Stevie wonder doing nets for Gorts!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on June 09, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
Kevin McGourty a straight red for kicking I hear. Good man yourself Kevin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 09, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Cargin see off Naomh Pol 9 points to 8 tonight, in a game notable only for a shocking performance by the referee.  Doogan from Creggan I think he is.
Doogan should not do Cargin games

Why's that Milltown?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 09, 2010, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Cargin see off Naomh Pol 9 points to 8 tonight, in a game notable only for a shocking performance by the referee.  Doogan from Creggan I think he is.

Biased, inept or both SS2? I take it you're saying he "did St Paul's out of it"? Were St Paul's ahead at half-time by any chance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 10, 2010, 12:27:02 AM
i would imagine gerard dougan was biased against cargin if anything, he can be a bit ropey against local teams at the best of timees. besides that he's just a bad referee!! would be a turn-upfor the books if he was going against a city team in favour of a country team, altho maybe thats the way to go after decades of biased city referees especially in belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 10, 2010, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 10, 2010, 12:27:02 AM
i would imagine gerard dougan was biased against cargin if anything, he can be a bit ropey against local teams at the best of timees. besides that he's just a bad referee!! would be a turn-upfor the books if he was going against a city team in favour of a country team, altho maybe thats the way to go after decades of biased city referees especially in belfast.

And never a biased country ref reffing outside Belfast?  ::) Your first post and your chip's showing BBB :D

Look through the other county threads on this board. It's the way the world works. Or more accurately, perceived to work. If it's not city/country bias, then it's North/South, East/West, or Up/Down   ;)

Let's take Gerard D. He's a country ref, so he'll favour the country team, right? No wait, the country team is the bitter rivals from the neighbouring parish.  He might know them all by name but with all those years of bitterness, put downs, and stealing players he's bound to favour the city team, right? But then there's the accents. I mean we're all drawn to the familiar. So a "for fuuuuuuck saaake Gerrrrrard you Creggan hoooor" might sound so less grating to him than "never a file, mate, never a file you culchie cnut" so he'll defintely favour the country team after a bit of back chat, right?. But wait, then there's the venue and the baying crowd of "supporters" who can say whatever they want ...and usually very loudly and from very close quarters. Very intimidating, so if it's a city venue, he'll definitely favour the city team, right? Poor Gerard will be so confused as to who he should be biased against he might just try and be neutral and completely fcuk it up  ;D

The truth is he'll proably go with what the majority of "normal" refs do up and down the country - give the marginal calls to the home side and/or the team that gives him the least grief. And then in the second half he'll give the (now less than) marginal calls to the team he has been hardest on in the first half and/or the team that is behind so that he can go home feeling he's done a good job being neutral.

So, I ask again, who was he perceived to be biased against and who was ahead at half time?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 10, 2010, 01:30:57 PM
St Paul's. Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2010, 01:50:17 PM
Dougan has always been a very fair ref.

How good he is I'm not so sure but he's always been in any game I've played in or seen him in fair.

Not a ref I've known anyone to have problems with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 10, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2010, 01:50:17 PM
Dougan has always been a very fair ref.

How good he is I'm not so sure but he's always been in any game I've played in or seen him in fair.

Not a ref I've known anyone to have problems with.

Not an opinion shared by too many over today's tea and Jammie Dodgers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 10, 2010, 02:16:20 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 10, 2010, 01:30:57 PM
St Paul's. Cargin.

Well, if Gerard's not going to follow the established rules of engagement, then he's on his own...  :D

Still, St Paul's matches must be fun to watch nevermind referee. Do you go often SS2?

Lowest scored and lowest conceded in the whole league both by a big margin according to esport. Scored only 74 pts in 9 matches and no goals, ending up with a points difference of -17 but still winning 4 matches out of 9 puting them mid-table!  ???

Do they play 14 men in their own half with one man up to win frees?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2010, 04:23:24 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on June 09, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Cargin see off Naomh Pol 9 points to 8 tonight, in a game notable only for a shocking performance by the referee.  Doogan from Creggan I think he is.
Doogan should not do Cargin games

Why's that Milltown?

Christ such a can of worms!!!

Doogan is a good man, has been refereeing for years.

refereeing your bitter rivals is tough on a referee. they all know you personally and by name. having refereed a few seasons (albeit not often enough) when you walk onto the pitch and the mentors know you personally they feel (i think) that you owe them something.

does this cloud your decisions? don't know but it could sway others.

thats why i said he shouldn't do Cargin games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 10, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2010, 04:23:24 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on June 09, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Cargin see off Naomh Pol 9 points to 8 tonight, in a game notable only for a shocking performance by the referee.  Doogan from Creggan I think he is.
Doogan should not do Cargin games

Why's that Milltown?

Christ such a can of worms!!!

Doogan is a good man, has been refereeing for years.

refereeing your bitter rivals is tough on a referee. they all know you personally and by name. having refereed a few seasons (albeit not often enough) when you walk onto the pitch and the mentors know you personally they feel (i think) that you owe them something.

does this cloud your decisions? don't know but it could sway others.

thats why i said he shouldn't do Cargin games.

Fair enough. I agree 100% - in principle at least. It has to cloud your decisions either one way - or the other in trying to compensate. The logistics of trying to avoid a near neighbour refereeing could be problematic though so just has to be accepted from time to time, I guess.

Besides the country ones feel that way about all the city refs and teams do they not? They think they're all related :D

I remember hearing a story about a city team playing a country team up the country and a referee from over 30miles away appointed to officiate. The city team couldn't understand how the ref was so familiar with the country team and why he was giving the city such a raw deal until they found out he had a shop in the (nearest) town and employed two of the players from their team!

The ref (literally) knew which side of his bread was buttered that day...  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 10, 2010, 05:29:55 PM
From the BBC

Cunningham injury blow for Antrim

Antrim footballers could be without key forward Paddy Cunningham for their opening game in the All-Ireland qualifiers in two weeks time.  The Saffrons free-taker suffered ankle ligament damage while playing football in a tournament in Mayo. The Lamh Dhearg club-man is currently undergoing treatment in an effort to speed up his recovery. At the moment, last year's Saffron skipper is unable to put weight on the injured left foot.

The draw for the opening round of qualifiers will take place on Sunday evening with the eight matches being played on Saturday 26 June.  Antrim bowed out of the Ulster Championship last month after being beaten 2-14 to 1-13 by Tyrone at Casement Park.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrons on June 13, 2010, 09:16:16 PM
McGourty in for a straight swap with PC, if he's injured. Would be a loss but we can cope.
Kildare in the qualifiers then, what does everyone think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 14, 2010, 12:00:23 AM
where kildare keeping their powder dry for later on in the season and got caught against louth, or their maybe missing paul grimley? theyre probably not as bad as they showed against louth, same as we werent as poor as we showed against tyrone, think theyre defense is poor, which is a good thing for us, bt thats suprising seeing as mc geeney is taking them and maybe they'll have that sorted for the game, hard to know.
tomas mc cann michael mc cann loughrey, mc gourty, niblock. k mc gourty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 14, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Absolutely imperative that we get someone to marshall John Doyle - despite the defeat to Louth he was still a class act and Kildare's main scoring threat and has been for a while.  Which one of the 4 half-backs will get the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 14, 2010, 01:23:05 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 14, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
Absolutely imperative that we get someone to marshall John Doyle - despite the defeat to Louth he was still a class act and Kildare's main scoring threat and has been for a while.  Which one of the 4 half-backs will get the job?

Surely you mean 5?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
I think it was shown the last day that we can't play those 2 boys in WHF. We can't make that mistake again...

James Kavanagh will take some watching. Very good footballer. Smith also very good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 15, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
Could be a nightmare journey on Sat as its Derby weekend at the Curragh >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 15, 2010, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 15, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
Could be a nightmare journey on Sat as its Derby weekend at the Curragh >:(

I believe the Cooperation Ireland Maracycle (Belfast - Dublin) is on that day too ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 15, 2010, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 15, 2010, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 15, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
Could be a nightmare journey on Sat as its Derby weekend at the Curragh >:(

I believe the Cooperation Ireland Maracycle (Belfast - Dublin) is on that day too ???

Sh1te that is a nightmare got caught in that one year there was a bomb scare in Newry and we were diverted over the mountain with 100s of mad bikers >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on June 16, 2010, 05:21:19 PM
Any new faces joining the panel?

I heard Brian'Bam'Nelson from St.Johns got a phone call from Baker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 11:58:33 PM
beat the Johnnies tonight, Kevin Niblock was outstanding in nets for Naomh Gall, both teams missing players but a last minute peno won it for us!!

was impressed by St Johns even though we were missing a few players (feel like Skulll here ;) :D)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 17, 2010, 10:44:01 AM
well thats three st.johns men on the county panel now isn't it? by all reports they have been doing very well under adams and they have 4 or 5 tall fellas as well there, mc glinchey and another bug boy, is it ward he's called. does anybody think they will make any impact in the championship, would e great to see a fourth belfast team as a heavy hitter  again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 17, 2010, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 17, 2010, 10:44:01 AM
well thats three st.johns men on the county panel now isn't it? by all reports they have been doing very well under adams and they have 4 or 5 tall fellas as well there, mc glinchey and another bug boy, is it ward he's called. does anybody think they will make any impact in the championship, would e great to see a fourth belfast team as a heavy hitter  again

Who are the other two BBB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 17, 2010, 03:24:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 11:58:33 PM
beat the Johnnies tonight, Kevin Niblock was outstanding in nets for Naomh Gall, both teams missing players but a last minute peno won it for us!!

was impressed by St Johns even though we were missing a few players (feel like Skulll here ;) :D)

The best CHF in the country playing in goal and you still won? The demise wished on St Gall's by the hopefuls has been greatly exaggerated methinks ;)

Did Niblock go up and take the penalty himself?

First CJ, now Niblock. Who's next? Are you on some sort of grant for a "goalkeeper rotation scheme"?  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 17, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
fu*k feels like your gonna give me a bollicking now! i would say lamh dhearg are a quality team and a championship side, as shown by playing in those county finals, even if they were in div2 nt that long ago. the other one, probably without a lot of justification as they havent really beat portglenone or turned a team over in the championship yet, is st. brigids, even for the fact that they are competing in div 1 fairly well for a number of years, seem to be fairly well respected and seem to have good youth structures in place, which seems to mean that they should be able to maintain their senior status going forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2010, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on June 17, 2010, 03:24:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 11:58:33 PM
beat the Johnnies tonight, Kevin Niblock was outstanding in nets for Naomh Gall, both teams missing players but a last minute peno won it for us!!

was impressed by St Johns even though we were missing a few players (feel like Skulll here ;) :D)

The best CHF in the country playing in goal and you still won? The demise wished on St Gall's by the hopefuls has been greatly exaggerated methinks ;)

Did Niblock go up and take the penalty himself?

First CJ, now Niblock. Who's next? Are you on some sort of grant for a "goalkeeper rotation scheme"?  :D
getting ready for the sevens, it's the 'fly nets' system
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 17, 2010, 11:35:01 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 17, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
f**k feels like your gonna give me a bollicking now! i would say lamh dhearg are a quality team and a championship side, as shown by playing in those county finals, even if they were in div2 nt that long ago. the other one, probably without a lot of justification as they havent really beat portglenone or turned a team over in the championship yet, is st. brigids, even for the fact that they are competing in div 1 fairly well for a number of years, seem to be fairly well respected and seem to have good youth structures in place, which seems to mean that they should be able to maintain their senior status going forward

No, no, I wasn't setting you up for a bollicking BBB  :D. Just curious. Been to a few matches over the last couple of years but I get most of my info about Antrim football secondhand from workmates, so that makes me an expert  ;)

From what I hear Lamh Dhearg depend a lot on Paddy Cunningham. Lost their last two league matches, I presume while Paddy was nursing his sore ankle? Good work been done by St Brigid's alright but it'll be a couple years before they are a heavy hitter maybe? See, I'm being as respectful as I can   :)

Forget about St Gall's and Cargin, the smart (outside) money is on St John's this year  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on June 21, 2010, 01:28:32 PM
Heard the county had a challenge game yesterday. Anyone know who with and how it went?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ron Burgundy on June 21, 2010, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on June 21, 2010, 01:28:32 PM
Heard the county had a challenge game yesterday. Anyone know who with and how it went?

They played Offaly, not sure were it was at put i know that they stuffed them.  Antrim were beating them 3-9 to 0-1 at half-time, i assume there was a strong breeze. . . That is all i know Samba but its from an excellent source.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on June 21, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
Good man, aye I heard it was v Offaly in Dundalk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on June 17, 2010, 11:35:01 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 17, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
f**k feels like your gonna give me a bollicking now! i would say lamh dhearg are a quality team and a championship side, as shown by playing in those county finals, even if they were in div2 nt that long ago. the other one, probably without a lot of justification as they havent really beat portglenone or turned a team over in the championship yet, is st. brigids, even for the fact that they are competing in div 1 fairly well for a number of years, seem to be fairly well respected and seem to have good youth structures in place, which seems to mean that they should be able to maintain their senior status going forward

No, no, I wasn't setting you up for a bollicking BBB  :D. Just curious. Been to a few matches over the last couple of years but I get most of my info about Antrim football secondhand from workmates, so that makes me an expert  ;)

From what I hear Lamh Dhearg depend a lot on Paddy Cunningham. Lost their last two league matches, I presume while Paddy was nursing his sore ankle? Good work been done by St Brigid's alright but it'll be a couple years before they are a heavy hitter maybe? See, I'm being as respectful as I can   :)

Forget about St Gall's and Cargin, the smart (outside) money is on St John's this year  ;)

you'll get a good price for that, get your money on early though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 22, 2010, 10:10:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on June 17, 2010, 11:35:01 PM
Forget about St Gall's and Cargin, the smart (outside) money is on St John's this year  ;)

you'll get a good price for that, get your money on early though

Second thoughts now if what I heard about your match with the Johnnies is correct. Three sent off?  :o

If the Johnnies are still getting up to that craic then they haven't a hope with 6 extra pairs of eyes watching them in championship.

C'mon spill the beans Milltown! Straight reds? Who walked? And to think all you had to say was that "Kevin Niblock was outstanding in nets"...  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2010, 11:35:20 AM
Whats the story there MR2 is there no sub keeper on the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2010, 08:36:30 PM
we have three senior teams playing at the same time, organising 50 players (allowing for subs) is a hard task. the seniors were missing a load, Sub keeper off to the states, Kerr injured and Niblock stepped in.

two Johnnies men and a St Galls lad sent off. Johnnies will always try like Fook against us, loads of history but with the team we had out I'd say we were happy to win.

At our annual dinner on Friday night. Thomas Niblock (BBC) was doing the presenting and asked Terry O'Neill.... All Ireland Club final or beating St Johns? do i need to answer this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2010, 10:12:13 PM
The moderator(s) let down a very good site, pricks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
That is ridiculous but unsurprising.

The moderator who writes the replies, and I'm pretty sure he reads here, needs to wise up.

If so much of the posts on the guestbook annoy him then just do away with the bloody guestbook. He's just making himself look like a twat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 23, 2010, 10:31:43 PM
He's an absolute ballbag

There has been talk of postponing the county game due to Earley's da dying --that would be a disgrace

John Devine's da died on the eve of the AI Final but the match went ahead. Earley Snr was a Ross man. Sad as it is the game has to go ahead and its for Earley Jnr if he wants to play or not.

I'm sure his da would want the game to go on. I know if i went i would never want any games cancelled (not that they would be!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2010, 12:30:59 AM
Of course the moderaters of the county site  are on here. A little bit of power goes to their heads. "Martin" seems like a typical genuine lad who wants to go to support his county, yet he gets both barrels.

Id say they think they are being clever, a cut above the rest of us. Not nice, but their day will come and go, and soon enough they will be a "joe soap" too.

Unless of course they have aspirations to become fat cats at provincial or national level.

Having a laugh at the expense of ordinary decent people who put them there in the first place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 24, 2010, 11:22:43 PM
Rumblings around that Mick McCann may also be carrying an injury into this game - anyone heard similar or can confirm / deny this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:32:48 PM
Hope not, quality player when he's on his game. Antrim apparently have put in good performances lately so this game will be closer than i thought.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 28, 2010, 08:58:09 AM
Fair dues to all involved. Saturday night was a real gutsy backs to the wall effort. A game that would have been lost by nearly every other Antrim team in recent memory.

The winners of the replay get Leitrim at home, couldnt have asked for a nicer draw.

Saturday night a huge one now. Home advantage to make a huge difference. Lets get out in force.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on June 29, 2010, 12:00:12 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8770111.stm

Magill back on board with the Antrim team - good to see

He showed through parts of the league campaign that if given the service he can do damage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2010, 10:14:09 AM
No one has ever doubted Magills ability. A player who could make any team in the country. Good to see him back, lessons learnt, would be some boost if we get his full 100%.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2010, 10:15:41 AM
We lack a FF and it sounded very much like it from saturday.

Hopefully, I doubt he'll start, at some point he can come in there and free up Mick McCann to go further out the field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2010, 10:21:15 AM
Personally I think Mark Dougan should be in there somewhere as well. Looked better than ever against us in a recent league game, and looked fit and sharp. More mature now, and definitely better than quite a few on the squad. Would definitely be an asset to the squad, if not the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2010, 10:46:25 AM
Always thought Dougan looked excellent at club level. Wasn't sure if he had the physical presence for county but haven't seen him in a while so that may have changed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 29, 2010, 10:50:04 AM
I heard he was coming back the other night and thought it would be a welcome addition, but at the same time i also heard 2 of the St. Gall's contingent are heading off on their travels - if the Magill story is true i've no reason to doubt the other one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2010, 12:11:59 PM
Dougan definitely has the physical presence now. Filled out and more than able to win his own ball, and take or make scores. Has all the attributes to go straight to a first fifteen jersey. Admittedly has had chances before, but I`d say he would be more hungry and ready for it, and if he gets any sort of a chance would have to grab it with both hands this time round.

Not sure about bringing players in at this stage, but everyone it seems like revolving doors everywhere, Dinny at it too with Tosh, Watson and SD.

In any case, anyone with any knowledge of Antrim football, or wanting the best for it, would want Magill and Dougan in there doing their stuff. Giving their all, both would be huge assets to the cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2010, 12:35:50 PM
I know one of the Galls lads has been up front with Baker from the very start, he's heading off for a month, Baker knew this since the All Ireland Club Final. who is the other one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 29, 2010, 02:46:58 PM
Two that were mentioned were CJ & AG.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on June 29, 2010, 04:07:15 PM
and which one has told bradley?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on June 29, 2010, 10:51:41 PM
CJ has handed in his transfer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Heaneys Wish on July 01, 2010, 08:07:19 AM
My press sources have brought to my attention for you lads in Antrim. That a prominent duel Belfast club on the falls road was approached by a local sports gear supplier to put an advert on the wall that faces the falls road, the club chairman and also a prominent county official allegedly would only allow the advert to go up on the wall if it had his sons picture on it. ;D Well any truth in all this, must say it gave me a laugh. Jesus this takes the biscuit, does his lad play on the county team, checked back didn't see the name anywhere unless i have been given the wrong name!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 01, 2010, 08:16:26 AM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on July 01, 2010, 08:07:19 AM
My press sources have brought to my attention for you lads in Antrim. That a prominent duel Belfast club on the falls road was approached by a local sports gear supplier to put an advert on the wall that faces the falls road, the club chairman and also a prominent county official allegedly would only allow the advert to go up on the wall if it had his sons picture on it. ;D Well any truth in all this, must say it gave me a laugh. Jesus this takes the biscuit, does his lad play on the county team, checked back didn't see the name anywhere unless i have been given the wrong name!

tut tut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on July 01, 2010, 12:59:46 PM
Any word were in the states CJ is heading?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Trout on July 01, 2010, 01:12:26 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on July 01, 2010, 12:59:46 PM
Any word were in the states CJ is heading?

Atlantic City?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 02, 2010, 09:37:02 AM
Antrim unchanged for Saturday:

1.  S McGreevy (St. Paul's)

2.  A Healy (St Gall's)
3.  C Brady (St Gall's)
4.  J Crozier (Cargin)

5.  J Loughrey (St Brigid's)
6.  T Scullion (Cargin)
7.  K O'Boyle (Cargin)

8.  B Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
9.  A Gallagher (St Gall's)

10.  K McGourty (St Gall's)
11.  K Niblock (St Gall's)
12.  T McCann (Cargin)

13.  P Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  M McCann (Cargin)
15.  K Brady (Moneyglass)

Sean Kelly and Michael Magill on the bench, CJ McGourty on the plane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2010, 04:28:37 PM
i dont think CJ has been fit lately, Baker has played him from the bench and he hasn't started too many games for St Galls.

if Magil is fit for the bench i'd start him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 03, 2010, 12:32:52 AM
Magil will start, he has to--antrim never kicked one ball into the full forward line last week, as there was no one to kick it to.

Magill's the sort of player who may struggle to be fit if not trainin flat out so i hope he's in good shape as he's our best ball winner and will be hard stopped if fit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on July 04, 2010, 12:14:36 AM
Another outstanding "team performance"!

Stats for the year,

Pre the "return" of the Club "champs" - 4 wins out of 5
Post the "return" of the Club "champs" - 1 win, 3 lost, 1 draw.

How many of the Club "champs" made it to the "last" match?

As the Yanks say, "Do the math"!

One year in Division 2, and then start again, from Div 3, or Div 4?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 04, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on July 04, 2010, 12:14:36 AM
Another outstanding "team performance"!

Stats for the year,

Pre the "return" of the Club "champs" - 4 wins out of 5
Post the "return" of the Club "champs" - 1 win, 3 lost, 1 draw.

How many of the Club "champs" made it to the "last" match?

As the Yanks say, "Do the math"!

One year in Division 2, and then start again, from Div 3, or Div 4?

I doubt even Antrim could manage to go down two divisions in one year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on July 04, 2010, 04:47:54 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on July 04, 2010, 12:14:36 AM
Another outstanding "team performance"!

Stats for the year,

Pre the "return" of the Club "champs" - 4 wins out of 5
Post the "return" of the Club "champs" - 1 win, 3 lost, 1 draw.

How many of the Club "champs" made it to the "last" match?

As the Yanks say, "Do the math"!

One year in Division 2, and then start again, from Div 3, or Div 4?

I think you should look at the oposition Antrim lost to after return off St Galls men. Sligo who are flying, Kildare and a top side in Tyrone. Sean Burke, CJ and McClean along with the 5 staters yesterday and Gallagher are all better than any other Antrim player IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 04, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
Rubbish MDG. What about Crozier , Loughrey (especially who is a superb player), Paddy Cunningham, Michael McCann. St Galls have some cracking players but there are other ones there too and to be honest Loughrey would get on most teams about the country. Maybe you've been watching too much down football..

Don't know why you're even bothering replying to that other guy too! We need to change tactics - teams are sussing us out. That also has a big bearing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
Though Antrim ran out of ideas very quickly in the game on Saturday evening. Didnt seem to be a plan A never mind B.

Brady was the only forward winning any possession but was then isolated and to far from goal to really hurt Kildare. I also noted that every single contact area Antrim were coming off second best, some being thrown around like rag dolls. This would have been well known and therefore the ball should have never been carried into contact, was coughed up too many times like that.

In saying that JL was clean through and turned down a great shooting (goal) opportunity for a pass to a player in a worse position. Antrim needed goals and that would have been a major boost at that stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 05, 2010, 01:39:23 PM
Antrim football has had a long but unwanted longstanding reputation for being a nice wee team who try to walk the ball into the net. But it has been a long long time since I seen such emphasis on a short possession game that our management/players offered up on Saturday night. It was a return to the predictable old days that I thought we had left behind.

It was a display marked by countless lost posessions, and a gameplan that was never going to work against a team so athletically equipped to deal with our running style.

The whole thing came up short, badly short of what was targetted and trumped. A last eight, a top ten team in the country. Not nearly on that showing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 05, 2010, 03:39:09 PM
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Quote from: DuffleKing on July 04, 2010, 06:51:26 PM

have antrim beaten anyone of note?

Have kildare beaten anyone of note in championship football?

Quote from: imtommygunn on Today at 08:56:08 AM
Some people have asked who have we beat of significance. Maybe you should cast your mind back 2 years... Donegal, Cavan, rattling Kerry and drawing with Kildare is pretty big for antrim

Noone then?

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on Today at 11:45:12 AM
Baker is Antrim's most successful manager since about 1912.  Simple as that.

Better than the Ulster winning teams in the 40s?
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Given the standard of competiton these days...I'd say yes.  Up to 1950 none of Armagh, Derry, Tyrone, Down and Donegal had won Ulster.  In the 30s and 40s it was basically Cavan, then a good bit behind Monaghan and Antrim, then the rest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
I see Benny Tierney gives the Antrim set up a bit of a touch in today's Irish News.  He might have a point??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on July 07, 2010, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on July 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
I see Benny Tierney gives the Antrim set up a bit of a touch in today's Irish News.  He might have a point??

Would the Irish News pay Tierney for that? Who wants to know what he did last Sunday? And Conor McGourty, Antrim's best player, has he ever seen Antrim playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 07, 2010, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 07, 2010, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on July 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
I see Benny Tierney gives the Antrim set up a bit of a touch in today's Irish News.  He might have a point??

Would the Irish News pay Tierney for that? Who wants to know what he did last Sunday? And Conor McGourty, Antrim's best player, has he ever seen Antrim playing?

No obviously he hasnt, it's amazing what media can do for a player.

If a player wants to train but then dissapear 2 days before a Inter County championship game questions have to be asked. These stories about players leaving panels/joining panels seem to be unique to Antrim. It wouldnt surprise anyone if the same names do the same next year and every year after for the next 5 years. There comes a point when enough is enough.

Its an amateur sport and noone is forced to play but if your not willing to stick it out for the year why be there at all? It's letting the fans down. People who waste their time paying to travel to Kildare one week only to see a different team play the week after have been let down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Heaneys Wish on July 11, 2010, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM

    Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters??????????? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc


Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus! Fck disgrace poor Louth

Told you so, ah its great to get a call spot on!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladhabu on July 12, 2010, 09:51:42 AM
Is this Seamus Woods from Ulster Colleges? What has he got to do with Sludden HW? I know he is an arrogant so and so, and there would be a few Ulster F/ball ref's sniggering yesterday after all the going's on at croker, still as said what has woods got to do with Sludden, how can he back his promo as stated in your posting's? Congrat's on getting it spot on, you can write about tomorrow in your weekly article, although your refereeing article was hard to beat, keep it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 12, 2010, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on July 11, 2010, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM

    Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters??????????? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc


Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus! Fck disgrace poor Louth

Told you so, ah its great to get a call spot on!!!!!!!!!

Hardly an earth shattering prediction, given that you have already come across Sludden before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 15, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
Getting very tight at the bottom of division one now, with 2 points seperating the bottom 5 and a lot of them still to play each other. St Brigids opted to play their game a few weeks ago on a Friday night before Antrim played, meaning they hadn't got James Loughrey. Might be regretting it now! St Pauls also look to be in deep trouble, they've lost a fair few in a row. Portglenone struggling without their main scorer McAleese, while Moneyglass and Ahoghill seem to be doing enough at the minute - just. Still a lot of big matches to be played yet though!

Cargin look to have sewn up another title at the top.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2010, 03:32:08 PM
i see the teams will have played 6 games in 24 days by the end of july. Thats great, what club players want. How come the last 2 games will take 3 months ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 15, 2010, 07:41:16 PM
Because its Antrim. Presumably due to Championship, but its a bit shit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: micko12368 on July 16, 2010, 11:05:02 PM
Originally the div 1 and 2 fixtures were to be completed at the end of August, i can't understand how the last round of Div 1 mathces have been moved to the end of October! Surely it would only take a month max to run off the championship?

In fairness to the fixture committee this year the matches have been played as and when scheduled with Div 3 now completed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 17, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
I've been told tha those dates are just thrown in there as dummys as such, and will be changed as the championship progresses. Which would make a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2010, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 15, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
Getting very tight at the bottom of division one now, with 2 points seperating the bottom 5 and a lot of them still to play each other. St Brigids opted to play their game a few weeks ago on a Friday night before Antrim played, meaning they hadn't got James Loughrey. Might be regretting it now! St Pauls also look to be in deep trouble, they've lost a fair few in a row. Portglenone struggling without their main scorer McAleese, while Moneyglass and Ahoghill seem to be doing enough at the minute - just. Still a lot of big matches to be played yet though!

Cargin look to have sewn up another title at the top.

All very tight at the bottom indeed!

Cargin St Johns must have been a great game.

Is McAleese injured/away? How long he out/away for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 18, 2010, 11:32:23 AM
Away to Oz, think its only short-term, maybe a month. He picked a bad time to go!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on July 20, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
I see Bomber Liston is talking about some players from weaker counties representing Ireland in the IRS. Would you think any Antrim players will be considered?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 22, 2010, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 20, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
I see Bomber Liston is talking about some players from weaker counties representing Ireland in the IRS. Would you think any Antrim players will be considered?

Kevin McGourty would be ideal for goal keeper.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wee Shea on July 22, 2010, 10:32:52 PM
Division Two is hotting up this year, hope Aghagallon go up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 23, 2010, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 22, 2010, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 20, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
I see Bomber Liston is talking about some players from weaker counties representing Ireland in the IRS. Would you think any Antrim players will be considered?

Kevin McGourty would be ideal for goal keeper.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 23, 2010, 09:12:51 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.

From an Antrim point of view:

1. Tony Scullion mightn't have the stereotypical physique but has the running and the heart (and would like the nasty stuff).

2. Loughrey more than fits the bill - fit, strong and a good runner. Am guessing he could adapt to the tackling.


Why the inverted comma(s) round the drawn game there Samba?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 23, 2010, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 23, 2010, 09:12:51 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.

From an Antrim point of view:

1. Tony Scullion mightn't have the stereotypical physique but has the running and the heart (and would like the nasty stuff).

2. Loughrey more than fits the bill - fit, strong and a good runner. Am guessing he could adapt to the tackling.


Why the inverted comma(s) round the drawn game there Samba?
Think Tony is a bit too small and lightweight for it. Loughrey is a good shout though!

I've heard stories that the game wasn't played at all, and the 2 sides agreed to a draw when no referee turned up. It would explain why the result and table haven't been updated on the website anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on July 23, 2010, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.

Is that game not discredited enough without introducing Antrim players to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 23, 2010, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 23, 2010, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.

Is that game not discredited enough without introducing Antrim players to it.
How many points did Kildare beat Derry by again?  ;) Enjoy Division 3 in 2012.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on July 23, 2010, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 23, 2010, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on July 23, 2010, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.

Is that game not discredited enough without introducing Antrim players to it.
How many points did Kildare beat Derry by again?  ;) Enjoy Division 3 in 2012.
Won't surprise me in the least and I think Antrim will accompany us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 23, 2010, 02:44:25 PM
Doubt it. For the record, i don't think Derry will actually go down either, but I fully expect another decade of Derry people going on about the great talent they have despite not reaching an Ulster final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 26, 2010, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 23, 2010, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 23, 2010, 09:12:51 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Doubt it, there's no who really fits the bill that I can think of. Maybe big Niall McKeever will play in a year or 2, doubt he'll make the squad this year though.

More interesting results last night. St Pauls beating St Brigids, Portglenone beating Lamh Dearg, Moneyglass beating St Johns. St Galls beat Creggan as well.

St Brigids now in deep trouble, though their 'drawn' game against St Galls hasn't been updated to the website table yet.

From an Antrim point of view:

1. Tony Scullion mightn't have the stereotypical physique but has the running and the heart (and would like the nasty stuff).

2. Loughrey more than fits the bill - fit, strong and a good runner. Am guessing he could adapt to the tackling.


Why the inverted comma(s) round the drawn game there Samba?
Think Tony is a bit too small and lightweight for it. Loughrey is a good shout though!

I've heard stories that the game wasn't played at all, and the 2 sides agreed to a draw when no referee turned up. It would explain why the result and table haven't been updated on the website anyway!

You heard wrong, a friend was at it. While it was no world beating game and Galls were missing a few it was played. Some conspiracies theories doing the rounds in your neck of the woods! Don't think there is any relationship between the two clubs so not sure where yu plucked that one...

Championship starting in a couple of weeks then! Some good matches in there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 26, 2010, 09:56:05 PM
Its all the chat round here. The lack of a referee turning up probably fuelled it. Anyway, looks very like Portglenone and St Pauls going down now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on July 26, 2010, 10:55:33 PM
There's a big story coming out either this week or the next about the last 2 weeks league games.  :o :o


Only 3 games left so cargin league champs again?
Everyone took points off everyone else this year, was highly unpredictable.

Championship only around the corner all set for a galls cargin final, expect galls to start training soon and be in good shape for the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 27, 2010, 10:28:08 AM
Would this story involve a suspended player Pebble-dasher?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 10:46:24 AM
 
Quote from: pebble-dasher on July 26, 2010, 10:55:33 PM
There's a big story coming out either this week or the next about the last 2 weeks league games.  :o :o


Only 3 games left so cargin league champs again?
Everyone took points off everyone else this year, was highly unpredictable.

Championship only around the corner all set for a galls cargin final, expect galls to start training soon and be in good shape for the final.

Naomh Gall started training last weekend!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 01, 2010, 10:50:37 AM
getting close to the championship time now, st. galls will be strong and hard to work with as usual, does anybody know what shape cargins new managers are making of them. plenty of talent, whether they can focus everything into rattling st. galls remains to be seen, they have been disapointing in the last few years, always seem to get in their own way.

Lamh Dhearg  Ahoghill  Casement Park: lamh dhearg, have the championship experience and plenty of talent, always have a nice mix of new young players (declan lynch) players right up thru the ages (hands, micko) to your man gavin brown nt sure whether he is still playing. ahoghill have beat hannawhstown a few times in the last two years, will be quietly confident, good defenders, boris in midfield and donal graham and pj in full-forward should be able to get scores, how much break ball they can win will determine how far they can get. interesting game, probably the best of these three
Portglenone  Gort Na Mona  Creggan: nt sure how gort na mona are doing but portglenone have championship pedigree, plenty of them experienced players still there. gort na mona always seem to have strong underage teams, and portglenone havent been going well in the league so its hard to know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2010, 02:36:41 PM
yet to see the seniors with a full team this year, hard to assess how we will fair in our first match. Cargin will be gunning to stop us but so will everyone else, Creggan woud love to meet Cargin while St Johns would not fear St Galls.

Lamhs have good players and will do well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 03, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8881047.stm

Bradley commits future to Antrim

Antrim boss Liam Bradley has ended speculation linking him with the vacant Derry managerial post by committing his future to the Saffrons.

The Derry native had been touted as a possible replacement for Damian Cassidy whose resignation after two years in charge was announced on Friday.

Bradley has a further year of his Antrim contract to run and said he would honour that commitment.

"I intend to stay for the full three years of my contract," said Bradley.

The Glenullin man's two years in charge of the Saffrons have seen them reach their first Ulster final since 1970 and win successive promotions in the National League.

Bradley had indicated an interest in the Derry job two years ago but was overlooked in favour of Bellaghy man Cassidy.

The Antrim boss did not rule out the possibility of managing his native county in the future.

"It's not that I don't want to manage Derry, but it's not for me at this present time," he told the Irish News.

"I'm building a team in Antrim and we feel we're going places - that's where I'll be next year," he added.

Other names linked to the post include John Brennan, Brian McIver, Damien Barton and Niall Conway.

Among those from outside the county who may be considered are Malachy O'Rourke and Seamus McEnaney.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 04, 2010, 07:34:37 AM
Fair play to Baker and his backroom team. A brave move to stay and good to see that they think there is more mileage with our group of senior players. And after genuine progress in years one and two, this declaration is a positive sign that they still really believe in us.

No doubt the fact that in at least one game we really put it up to Kildare (we could have snatched a win in Newbridge but no doubt we were outclassed in Casement) and we beat Down in a fairly recent competitive challenge game, will have swayed their decision. One of these teams will have a great chance of winning the all Ireland!

Year Three will be harder, probably by a distance. The challenge will be to consolidate our position in division two, while at the same time keep enough up our sleeve to be competitive in the c`ship as well. Last year we gave all to the league, and personally I thought we had very little left to offer in the c`ship. Definitely looked very tired despite a massive effort in Newbridge.

A big and interesting season awaits, good luck to all concerned!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2010, 09:13:06 AM
Think the Baker is being cute too, no one wants to touch that Derry job currently they are going nowhere and have too many average players with big ego's.

Another decent season with Antrim will do his stock alot more good than going in and under-performing in Derry. Think he is smart enough to realise this!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 04, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: Man Marker on August 04, 2010, 10:13:48 AM
I think that you are selling Antrim short. Antrim do have a good panel of players. Antrim have not beaten a team of any note in the past two yrs, and in the big games have come up short. Infact Antrim have not won a game since march i think. Because you have done poorly for so long (over the years) you are now happy with any progress, which is understandably, but I think you are at a stage where you need to push on and have the players to push on but Bradley IMO won't be able to do it for you.

Have to agree with that,think Baker may have taken us as far as he can but hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 04, 2010, 10:50:01 AM
I also believe he may have taken us as far as he can. He has his positives, like installing belief in the players obviously, but in some aspects of management he is lacking. His man-management seems to be poor. I also believe the way he introduced the St Galls lads last year even though we had been doing very well up to it won't have helped team morale. And, with all due respect to the St Galls lads, I don't think they could have been as focused for Antrim after such a long year. I don't blame for that at all, but I think it was shown in a way by the fact we only won one game after their return. I think they should have been given a longer rest, maybe til the end of the league.

Man Marker, I kind of agree with what you are saying, but we did beat Donegal in Ballybofey, which was a huge result for us. The Cavan performance was excellent, we didn't perform against Tyrone. We were the better team against Kerry, who went on to win it. The league progress has been good, but its all about Championship and this year we didn't perform. Having said that, Kildare's progress has shown we aren't too far away, I think our performance in Casement was just an off day for us and in Newbridge we matched them quite well.

If Kildare go on to win it, that'll be 2 years in a row we've been beaten by the winners, after giving both a major scare. 2nd best team in Ireland?  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2010, 11:08:50 AM
How am I selling Antrim short?

My point was it would be in Bakers best interest, not neccessarily Antrim's though I do have to say that I believe they are one in the same thing on this.

Maybe would be an idea to add someone to the back room team from a recently successful team ala Aidan O'Rourke (although I would safely have slapped him that night in casement if I was on the pitch, running on every two seconds). I think that may help to lift the atmosphere again another level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 04, 2010, 11:56:17 AM
Good point Nag. The manager really is just a figurehead at times, dealing with the media and delegating out various roles, fitness, coaching, welfare etc. Ultimately he will get the credit or the blame, but a top notch backroom team is vital to have any chance of success. See Antrim hurlers as prime example. Or Mc Ivor/Tally as backup in Down.

Hopefully Niall stays on, players like him and wee Paddy too. But there is no point in them all doing exactly the same as before. Things will need freshened up or it will all get stale very quickly. Baker a good football man, been round the block, so he wont need to come on here for any advice. They have kept the faith, its up to the rest of us to back it all the way and hope for the best.

Not to say we cant have an opinion though.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2010, 05:43:13 PM
If he is reading I have one request...

Can we please have a half forward line next year?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 04, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
here here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 04, 2010, 09:25:10 PM
We also need natural scoring forwards who make the right runs, show all the time, can make the ball stick, can score, but as important, who will also play as a unit instead of a bunch of individuals.

One important aspect of team play is to give the ball to the man in the best position, and how many times last year was there clear cases of selfishness. I know of one prominent player who left the panel because he says two forwards in particular simply would not pass the ball. He pointed this out to me several games in advance, and I clearly saw his point.

To be honest this is a basic aspect of team play, but was a big problem at times last year. Are our matches not videoed or analysed? Things as basic as this should not be a problem at this level!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
He must be too used to watching Derry and Glenullin to notice Bannside ;)

I'm glad Baker is staying on. I'd like to see us being more positive though.

Baker can't manufacture natural scoring forwards if we don't have them(we do have a few though) but I'd be hopeful he can make the best of what we have with a game-plan involving half forwards.

Division 2 perfect place for us to learn too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 05, 2010, 11:25:24 AM
Anywhere online where I can bet on this weekend's Championship games?

We should do some sort of tipping thing on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 05, 2010, 11:25:24 AM
Anywhere online where I can bet on this weekend's Championship games?

We should do some sort of tipping thing on here.

I started a thread on the Gaa discussion thread. 'Club Championships' paddy power have betting on who'll win their club championships in all counties. they usually have betting on club games on a weekly bases

we are 1/7 and Cargin are 7/2 to win Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 05, 2010, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 05, 2010, 11:25:24 AM
Anywhere online where I can bet on this weekend's Championship games?

We should do some sort of tipping thing on here.

I started a thread on the Gaa discussion thread. 'Club Championships' paddy power have betting on who'll win their club championships in all counties. they usually have betting on club games on a weekly bases

we are 1/7 and Cargin are 7/2 to win Antrim
Aye I seen that, not really much value in the winners though, especially since theres no e/w betting. Seems to be match betting on every county except ours this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 02:20:43 PM
well a nice earner could be Ballyhale 4/7 Crossmaglen 8/15 Cavan Gaels 2/5 Nemo 2/5 Kilmurry 8/13 Portlaois 4/6 Birr 4/5

one may fook you up but thats gambling!!

who's your fancy over the weekend? Lamhs have been on weight programmes of late and apparently look the part, its the football side of things that may let down. can Gorts win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on August 05, 2010, 02:44:31 PM
theres bound to be betting available on this weekends games if people in the city are fit to bet on league games!

My predictions
SFC
Lamh Dhearg v Ahoghill   Lamhs by 2
Ahoghill certainly worth there spot in div 1 played some great attacking football all year but i feel after beating lamh dearg when it mattered last year the result will be reversed.

Portglenone v Gort Na Mona Portglenone by 3
Looks like portglenone are relegated but i think they should have enough to beat the gorts.
   
Creggan v St. Pauls   draw or creggan by 1
Tricky tie here, should be very tight but since its in the sw creggan should nick it.

IFC
St. Endas v Glenavy
Ardoyne v   Tir na Nog
Glenravel v   Davitts
Rossa v All Saints    
Dunloy v St. Teresas   
Aldergrove    v Sarsfields
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 05, 2010, 05:56:39 PM
Anyone know of long odds to win senior c`ship outright?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 05, 2010, 06:32:27 PM
You can have Gorts at 150/1? Or Moneyglass at 66/1?

Can you really bet on league games in Belfast? Jesus, I'd say a few lads could make cash on that.

My predictions for this weekend.

Lamh Dearg v Ahoghill - Draw. Very hard to call, Ahoghill impressed when I saw thim this year, Lamhs were a bit one-dimensional but were missing both Herrons and Conor Murray. Are they all back?

Creggan v St Pauls - Creggan by 5. St Pauls have lost a player or 2 in the last few years. Moneyglass ground should give Creggan extra advantage, although it could be argued the slightly smaller pitch might suit St Pauls physical style.

Portglenone v Gort na Mona - Portglenone by 4. Although they are going down, Portglenone should be too strong for Gorts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 05, 2010, 06:32:41 PM
 St. Galls  1/7 
Creggan  16/1 
St Brigids  40/1 
Cargin  7/2 
Portglenone  20/1 
Moneyglass  66/1 
Lamh Dhearg  12/1 
St. Pauls  20/1 
Gortnamona  150/1 
St. Johns  12/1 
Ahoghill  28/1 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 06:34:46 PM
St galls 1/7 cargin 7/2 think the rest are priced at 12's and above! lamhs ports johnnies bridgets and creggan about same price
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
Creggan 4/9 Portglenone 1/3 and Lamhs 1/2 for this weekends games.

is that a fair reflection, is there a shock?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 07, 2010, 12:44:35 PM
Although I tipped 2 of them, those are very short odds. The value is with the underdog, might take Ahoghill and St Pauls!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 07, 2010, 01:51:13 PM
Where you getting prices for weekends games?


edit: i see its on Paddy powers now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 07, 2010, 02:05:38 PM
Draws are a decent bet as well actually.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2010, 03:07:50 PM
yeah fancy the Lamhs game to go for a draw, have scored the same in the league, Lamhs have conceded 8 more and both teams have beaten each other in their away games!!

draw written all over it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2010, 12:25:56 AM
not really a shock.                   august the 8th season over for lamhs*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: eoinbeag on August 08, 2010, 02:30:06 PM
Thanks for the updates beo.  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 11, 2010, 08:16:32 PM
Ahoghill 1-12 Cargin 0-1 at half time.  :D ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 11, 2010, 09:47:44 PM
Final score Ahoghill 2-24 to 1-1. :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2010, 10:23:56 PM
what competition was that in? minor championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 12, 2010, 09:00:12 AM
Senior Division One.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2010, 10:29:50 AM
Cargin throwing games???

are they worried about Championship or is there another reason?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on August 12, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2010, 10:29:50 AM
Cargin throwing games???

are they worried about Championship or is there another reason?

MR2, I think you mind find they have long memories around toome!

a certain county final about ten years ago hasnt been forgotten!!
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 12, 2010, 01:31:54 PM
Some are saying it's to do with Creggan going down, some say St Pauls. I think its neither.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2010, 02:14:27 PM
look regardless of the reasons and people may say about us heading down to Cargin at the start of the season with fringe players but we had injuries boys away and three games that night.

this part of the season is when are teams fighting for their div 1 status are looking at were they will gain points and where their rivals will drop points.

St Paul's and portglenone have put themselves in that position but other teams should be playing honestly and to their strengths
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 12, 2010, 03:37:23 PM
3 games? That was a Monday night, I strongly doubt there were 3 games played that night. I don't think it would have mattered who was available, sure CJ played in nets while Ronan Gallagher was in fullforward! I don't in any way agree with what Cargin have done, but at the end of the day they've already won the competition so can do what they like. If I was St Pauls or Portglenone I wouldn't be too happy though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
oh yeah remember it was a monday night, no excuse other than injuries and people away then.

can't see why they would rest players, surely Cargin will get to the final, they are 7/2 to win the championship, good price
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 12, 2010, 04:26:51 PM
Aye, I'd be shocked if they didn't reach the final, though they haven't been in great form of late. Are they 7/2 in the bookies in the city? I see thats what they are on Paddypower.
Many of the Galls boys be missing for the first round, or indeed the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2010, 05:41:25 PM
its of no surprise that we have a few away. but would be still a shock if mg beat us next weekend. had we been meeting a stronger team then we would surely struggle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 10:00:03 AM
Heard a rumour last night of some betting iregularities re: SFC matches anyone else in the loop on this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 16, 2010, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 10:00:03 AM
Heard a rumour last night of some betting iregularities re: SFC matches anyone else in the loop on this?
Never heard, was it on the first round or this weekends games? PM if necessary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
Well I had heard that it was on both a recent league game and one of the first round matches. I am not saying that it is 100% fact just heard it from a usually reliable source yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 16, 2010, 03:46:08 PM
Championship aside, what right minded bookie would take bets on league games at this stage in the year given the history of 'shock' results at the end of the season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2010, 04:14:34 PM
never known the Bookies to take bets on League games, ever!! SFC i don't know of a team that would train all year for Championship and go out to get beat. the only game were the favourites were beat was the Lamhs game and by all accounts they were beat by the better team. think that's just a rumour
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 16, 2010, 04:49:15 PM
Had heard about bookies in Belfast taking bets on league games as well actually, couldn't believe it was true. Doubt it would happen in championship, and as someone said 2 of the teams who won were strong favourites while the other game was hard to call, and Lamh Dearg were beaten bythe better team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 17, 2010, 02:58:49 PM
News today says the Baker is in for Derry job. :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
he said he was staying??? who writes this stuff

thing is a club has probably nominated him and this is the process in Derry.

lets wait and see what 'Baker' says first

on another note, Any shocks this weekend in the Championship? St Galls to win by a point or two. tight pitch and players missing, playing against a charged up MG will be a lot tighter than people imagine, thats for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 20, 2010, 04:18:22 PM
Get on St Brigids to beat Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 20, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3715/oddsx.jpg)

St Galls
St Johns
Portglenone
Cargin

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: micko12368 on August 20, 2010, 09:27:36 PM
St Galls beat Moneyglass 0-15 to 0-8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2010, 11:28:23 PM
Good article on Culbert in the Gaelic Life
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 23, 2010, 08:52:42 PM
Aye read that O Neill. Had a few dealings with him and have to say he is a really interesting character. A very proud gael and Irishman. Would have a lot of time for him.

Went to see his Derry club C`ship match last Friday in Bellaghy, and his Glen got out of jail with a goal in the last kick to draw with Newbridge. And tonight they won the replay by a point.

Fair play to him, and wouldnt be taking a penny out of Maghera.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 24, 2010, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 23, 2010, 08:52:42 PM
Aye read that O Neill. Had a few dealings with him and have to say he is a really interesting character. A very proud gael and Irishman. Would have a lot of time for him.

Went to see his Derry club C`ship match last Friday in Bellaghy, and his Glen got out of jail with a goal in the last kick to draw with Newbridge. And tonight they won the replay by a point.

Fair play to him, and wouldnt be taking a penny out of Maghera.

Yeah Micky is a proud Gael and Irishman alright,good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on August 24, 2010, 10:27:31 AM
Has always been great with Cushendall. Certainly helped us to a few championship medals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2010, 10:31:57 AM
He's a top bloke alright, has also trained the Cushendall team for many years and does it because he loves it. Wouldn't even think about taking a penny.

He started the Galls fortunes also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on August 24, 2010, 12:35:03 PM
Also took Donagh (Fermanagh) for a while, serious travelling for him, I think I remember being told he didn't even want to take mileage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2010, 10:14:03 AM
I took a couple of club juveniles up to county u-17 development squad training last Saturday morning at Woodlands. Taking the session was none other than big PJ O Hare.

His session was top drawer, in terms of explanation, content, delivery, intensity. and enjoyment.
An old master at his work, and as motivated to improve Antrim football as he was when I first met him about twenty years ago!

We should be getting more from him round our development squads. Very little he dosent know about the game and for some of you younger posters Id say still the best full forward I have seen in an Antrim jersey.

Please can our development squads see a lot more of him. The lads loved him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 02:27:10 PM
Big PJ is currently taking our reserves, came in at the start of the year and brought training back for the reserves, every Tuesday night. was not done before. the boys love it!!! his knowledge is top drawer. But one of the main things that he brings to the game is enjoyment, plenty of humour and best craic.

PJ is also good at letting you know, in a nice way, that your crap but have a purpose in the team, be it to break ball, or man mark a certain player or don't shoot give it to the forwards to score.

plenty of time for him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 25, 2010, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 02:27:10 PM

PJ is also good at letting you know, in a nice way, that your crap but have a purpose in the team, be it to break ball, or man mark a certain player or don't shoot give it to the forwards to score.


I thought you would have known this by now!  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 25, 2010, 08:31:21 PM
Any word on how the St John's  game is going ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wee Shea on August 25, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
Aghagallon won by two and are promoted to Div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 25, 2010, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 25, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
Aghagallon won by two and are promoted to Div 1

derryhirk inn will be rocking tonight!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 09:18:09 PM
has whack for the diddle been heard yet around Casement?? was going to say Corrigan but its not open during the week!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
No result on the Antrim website yet, must have been a fight and the referee has had his phone stolen, or extra time with the use of the lights down there!!


score just in St. Johns  2-10 0-7 Ahoghill 

We have the Johnnies in the next round at Casement, dont bring the kids!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2010, 11:36:51 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2010, 09:48:32 PM
That's one not to be missed.

I'll be there, wearing my (out of date) Fyffes sponsored blue and white jersey.

I'd usually support the underdog too.

But seeing its the Johnnies you'll be supporting?

Naomh Gall will be wearing Saffron that night i'm sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 31, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
I hear that's a world beating Lamh Dhearg minor team that's playing St John's on Friday night. Underground bookies reckons a 20-point win for the Hannahstown whippersnappers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 31, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
I hear that's a world beating Lamh Dhearg minor team that's playing St John's on Friday night. Underground bookies reckons a 20-point win for the Hannahstown whippersnappers.

Can't see that scoreline happening. St Johns have a decent football team back-boned by a good hurling team. Usually when a dual club has a good team in one of the codes they will always have a decent team in the other.

Rossa ourselves and the Johnnies over the years have contested both minor finals, Lamhs did it many years ago also.

The Johnnies in a final will always be hard to beat. Expect a tight match.
Title: Bredagh Talks Sam and Down
Post by: bredaghgael on September 01, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
  This years event will take place in the Wellington Park Hotel, Belfast, on Thursday 16th Sept.

Confirmed guests: 

Mickey Harte - Manager of Tyrone when they won all 3 of their All Irelands

Mick O'Dwyer - 4 All Irelands as a player, 8 as a manager.

Joe Brolly -  RTE TV pundit, 2 time All Star & All Ireland winner with Derry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYycF8xb_c

We are still in negotiations with a number of other guests and their agents/Wags.  Names will be released in the next couple of days.

MC for the evening will be Jerome Quinn (well know GAA journalist).

Admission - £10 by TICKET ONLY which gets you into a draw for All Ireland Final tickets.

Doors open at 8.15pm with a 8.30pm start - get there early as numbers are limited due to fire regulations, the common agricultural policy or some such thing.

The event is sponsored by First Trust Bank
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2010, 10:51:54 PM
Minor final postponed because the floodlights were not working. :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 04, 2010, 11:53:46 AM
Could've bought 100 torches out of poundstretcher.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: funtime frankie on September 06, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
What chance do the Johnnies have against St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 06, 2010, 02:18:01 PM
wz jst thinking that today franktie, im sure their nose had been put out of joint with galls winning the all-ireland, maybe thats part of the reason for the bigger effort this year or maybe its just that their getting their act together or the right man is there in adams. nt sure myself how good they are this year, has anybody that has played against them a couple of times this year ne thoughts on the them. well organised? firepower up front? i know they've joe hand and mc glinchey in misfield, big enough like bt then the st. galls midfield is mobile, so dnt kno hw gd that height is to them, still expect st galls to win obiviously but it would eb good for ftball if johnnies really give them a rattle for the majority of the match.
again you would expect cargin to beat brigids, bt are brigids ready to make the step-up to senior this year? cargin look very sharp this year, if tehy get a go at st galls think they could give them a good rattle, and not be lacking i motivation or psyching-up with the management they have. who would have thought you would see the days when cargin need to be more aggressive! :D changed days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 06, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
What chance do the Johnnies have against St Galls?

it will be a tough game, i hear Dougan is refereeing the match so we are bound to have some questionable decsions ::)

St Johns will need to have a great game to beat us, we would also have to have a bad game also.

Cargin will beat St Brigids and should we get to the final then it will be a 50/50 match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on September 06, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 06, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
What chance do the Johnnies have against St Galls?

it will be a tough game, i hear Dougan is refereeing the match so we are bound to have some questionable decsions ::)

St Johns will need to have a great game to beat us, we would also have to have a bad game also.

Cargin will beat St Brigids and should we get to the final then it will be a 50/50 match

not according to the bookies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 06, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
I hope its not Dougan - he will have no control.

St Galls to win by 2
Cargin to win by 8+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: funtime frankie on September 07, 2010, 11:38:20 AM
CHB do you think the game will be that tight? A two point margin? I know that Adams has turned the Johnnies around but a two point margin is a bit too much for the Johnnies. I think St Galls will win by 5.

But it is championship and its all about on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 08, 2010, 06:30:40 PM
I believe it will be a close enough encounter. St Galls will play within themselves and win by as much as they please.

If Dougan is in the middle I don't expect the Johnnies to finish with 15. (as usual)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2010, 10:04:53 PM
Seems to be a lot of punters talking up St John's this weekend. Probably a bad thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2010, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2010, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 10, 2010, 10:04:53 PM
Seems to be a lot of punters talking up St John's this weekend. Probably a bad thing.
Not at all. I hear the Johnnies are holding everything back for a crack at the All Ireland Intermediate Hurling. The be all and end all.

Hope St. Gall's chin them.

Could be worth a punt considering the odds, but as i've said already we would have to have a bad day and the Johnnies have a cracker. The league win and the good league form will certainly give them confidence, translating that into Championship is slightly different.

Other Counties have had their recent shocks, will this be Antrims?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 11, 2010, 02:25:37 PM
IS there a match on before this? 8 is a very late start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2010, 03:17:12 PM
St Aggies and McDermotts will be tearing up the field in the Junior before it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maroon Heaven on September 12, 2010, 05:43:26 PM
Any Antrim results folks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 12, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
Cargin won by 4. Rasharkin won by a point in the intermediate.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2010, 08:49:23 PM
st johns 0-4 naomh gall 0-3 shite match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 12, 2010, 08:59:52 PM
any word milltown
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Post by: Minder on September 12, 2010, 09:04:50 PM
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1835.msg850374#new
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 12, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
0-9 to 0-6 for us. Liquid football it most certainly was not!

Poor match, unrecognisable St. Galls team always had several extra gears in them. Johnnies led 0-4 to 0-3 at half time. Thought both sendings off were harsh, but when you're already on a yellow they were both silly challenges to make. Brian McFall caused the Galls backline plenty of problems. Must be in his mid thirties by now but he can still shift for a big, strong man.

Will surely be changes for the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 12, 2010, 09:55:55 PM
Who got sent off?
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Post by: gallsman on September 12, 2010, 09:58:17 PM
Jackpot and Karl.
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Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2010, 10:04:47 PM
St Johns sending off was crucial. Allowed Kieran McGourty to play sweeper as extra man. He dictated the game at his pace after that. No better man.

Galls were sluggish. Didn't score from play til 3 minutes into second half. They were there for taking and if that goal chance had gone in you never know. Still, good game for getting cobwebs brushed.
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Post by: SambaSaffron on September 12, 2010, 10:06:22 PM
 ??? Had heard Kieran McGourty had broken his leg recently, obviously it was balls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2010, 10:06:35 PM
Who the hell is jackpot??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 12, 2010, 10:08:18 PM
Just back from the big smoke.
Second match was sh1te.
Wouldn't exactly say the Galls team was unrecognisable (especially if you're a Galls man...) but missing a few alright?!
Some serious wides.
Thought Johnnies sending off was harsh enough...but as you say it was two bookings.
Might be wrong but think Stewart's was a straight red and a dirty enough challenge with the fella on the ground.

First match Cargin just had a wee bit too much for Brigids...but the latter had chances and will be kicking themselves.

I seriously hope Tony Scullion is ok because he looked like he got shot about four times today...each time he was tackled (not necessarily in the facial area) he went down clutching his face.
And with that he should have been booked about 4/5 times himself.
Each time he plays its like a pantomime with him being the pantomime villan.
I recall reading an article (maybe before the Ulster final last year) where he seemed like a sound fella, along the lines "sure I hit a few belts but I take a fair few"...bullsh1t. Have seen him a few times over the last few years and he hits dirty, hard and late off the ball...and then when he gets tackled he does a fair amount of diving.
That said his cuteness today wasted about 10 minutes of time so if that kind of play floats your boat then he's your man.

I am guessing that St Galls will take great pleasure in dismantling Cargin in the final. If they turn up at all they should.



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Post by: gallsman on September 12, 2010, 10:19:43 PM
I mean unrecognisable in the sense that there's a lot to come into that starting 15. Think Karl got a second yellow - the first one was somewhat unlucky as the man slid for the ball, the second was a swinging arm with a closed fist. Thought it caught him under the arm, not in the face.

Jackpot is Ciaran McCurdy, He's had the nickname since he was about ten.
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
Ah, is he Locky's son?

Glensman Scullion's never been too bad for antrim but a few times I've seen him for Cargin he has been up to no good - some pretty disgusting behaviour at times to be honest.

St Galls seem to go through the county in about 2nd gear these days. I hope Cargin give them a better game in the final than they did last year in the semi.

Hoping for a double header of hurling / football too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 12, 2010, 10:32:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
Ah, is he Locky's son?

Nephew.

Based on tonight's performance, St. Galls have lots left in the bag to bring out. Will be tough to produce a top class performance against a tough Cargin team. While I felt they were always in control, the Johnnies had a few goal chances (especially McFall's in the first half where he took the point) that might have made things very interesting in the last ten minutes.

Who was the mouth on the Johnnies sideline?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 12, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
nt sure abt how good a game cargin will give them, i would be suprised if they're lacking in motivation and i think they have a good blend of youth and experience. maybe the ebst way to look at it is how the two teams will match up man to man can anybody put up the galls team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 12, 2010, 11:40:07 PM
[quote author=imtommygunn link=topic=21.msg850445#msg850445 date=1284326782

Glensman Scullion's never been too bad for antrim but a few times I've seen him for Cargin he has been up to no good - some pretty disgusting behaviour at times to be honest.

[/quote]

He couldn't get away with it for the county...more attention, more cameras....more big men to beat the crap out of him if he did!

Cargin will need everyone playing at 100%. Galls would need 7/8. Who knows but I just don't think Cargin have it...and Galls will want to give them a lesson in the final.
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Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
gallsman - Jimmy Wilson?
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Post by: funtime frankie on September 13, 2010, 09:14:06 AM
From a neutral perspective I thought Gregory was pish poor. It was almost as if he was afraid of a game of football breaking out. He was inconsistent in awarding St Galls some very soft frees in scoring positions which they squandered.

St Galls were in 2nd gear throughout but they never seemed as if they were able to deliver a killer blow, even with the extra man. I think that we still can see a lot more from St Galls but I wonder if their hunger has gone after winning the AI last year?
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Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2010, 09:19:27 AM
Have to agree Frankie, it was as if the ref thought St Galls were too good to be tackled.
Really poor bit of refereeing ruined what potentially could have been a decent match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on September 13, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Glensman and Imtommygunn, what is this f**king daddy daycare. Who gives a f**k what Tony Scullion does, or anyone on the Cargin team. As a matter of fact who cares what st johns or st galls do either. If you played enough football you would know the saying 'do whatever it takes to win'. Every player in Antrim should live by it. Nobody remembers what any one person does, its the name on the trophey that matters. His behaviour is out of line, Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 13, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Glensman and Imtommygunn, what is this f**king daddy daycare. Who gives a f**k what Tony Scullion does, or anyone on the Cargin team. As a matter of fact who cares what st johns or st galls do either. If you played enough football you would know the saying 'do whatever it takes to win'. Every player in Antrim should live by it. Nobody remembers what any one person does, its the name on the trophey that matters. His behaviour is out of line, Jesus Christ.

It's an opinion that we're allowed to voice.

You sound like a valued contributor who can have a reasoned debate ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 13, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 13, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Glensman and Imtommygunn, what is this f**king daddy daycare. Who gives a f**k what Tony Scullion does, or anyone on the Cargin team. As a matter of fact who cares what st johns or st galls do either. If you played enough football you would know the saying 'do whatever it takes to win'. Every player in Antrim should live by it. Nobody remembers what any one person does, its the name on the trophey that matters. His behaviour is out of line, Jesus Christ.

It's an opinion that we're allowed to voice.

You sound like a valued contributor who can have a reasoned debate ::)

I give a f*ck. As a neutral I go to the Antrim semis hoping to see the best of what Antrim has on offer...instead the first game was overshadowed by his shenanigans.

Daddy daycare?! - when my son is old enough to learn how to play football I will show him a video of Scullion and ask him to do the opposite of what he does. This is no longer a personal tirade on Scullion (that has gone!) but your comment "do whatever it takes to win" draws this out and is a reference to what a player should be taught to do on the field...
I will tell him to hit hard and fair on the ball.
I will also tell him to take his tackles like a man.

Would I rather watch him be a nasty piece of work and get his name on the trophy...or play the game hard and fair.

Your call, I know which one would make me proud.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BanagusOir on September 14, 2010, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 13, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 13, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Glensman and Imtommygunn, what is this f**king daddy daycare. Who gives a f**k what Tony Scullion does, or anyone on the Cargin team. As a matter of fact who cares what st johns or st galls do either. If you played enough football you would know the saying 'do whatever it takes to win'. Every player in Antrim should live by it. Nobody remembers what any one person does, its the name on the trophey that matters. His behaviour is out of line, Jesus Christ.

It's an opinion that we're allowed to voice.

You sound like a valued contributor who can have a reasoned debate ::)

I give a f*ck. As a neutral I go to the Antrim semis hoping to see the best of what Antrim has on offer...instead the first game was overshadowed by his shenanigans.

Daddy daycare?! - when my son is old enough to learn how to play football I will show him a video of Scullion and ask him to do the opposite of what he does. This is no longer a personal tirade on Scullion (that has gone!) but your comment "do whatever it takes to win" draws this out and is a reference to what a player should be taught to do on the field...
I will tell him to hit hard and fair on the ball.
I will also tell him to take his tackles like a man.

Would I rather watch him be a nasty piece of work and get his name on the trophy...or play the game hard and fair.

Your call, I know which one would make me proud.

Well a certain Mr Kennelly lifted the Sam Maguire last year with a so called 'disgraceful act'. Its the name of the game, be proud as punch for whatever your young lad does, you'll be prouder when he stands in the casement stand with the trophey aloft.

All im saying is ive watched the matches, Karl Stewarts tackle was bad, no body ranting about it.

What were these shenanigans Scullioon was at? I didnt hear any St Brigids players complaining?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2010, 02:08:44 PM
If you were a St Johns manager on Sunday night, would you have kept Jackpot on the pitch? considering he was booked then ticked before being sent off?

Thought up to that point St Johns could have pushed us a little bit harder.

BanagusOir, Stewart was sent off for his challenge, was Scullion?

One more point on the match, the referee consulted his linesman, well just one of them more than 3 times during the game. two of them he was in the same position as him so would have seen the incident exactly the same. why consult?
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Post by: SambaSaffron on September 14, 2010, 02:29:34 PM
Jackpot always plays "on the edge", always a risk for a sending off! As for the linesman, I know what you mean but I suppose he wanted a second opinion.

I hear the final's a Saturday night, bit strange.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Are you sure?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2010, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 14, 2010, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 13, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 13, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Glensman and Imtommygunn, what is this f**king daddy daycare. Who gives a f**k what Tony Scullion does, or anyone on the Cargin team. As a matter of fact who cares what st johns or st galls do either. If you played enough football you would know the saying 'do whatever it takes to win'. Every player in Antrim should live by it. Nobody remembers what any one person does, its the name on the trophey that matters. His behaviour is out of line, Jesus Christ.

It's an opinion that we're allowed to voice.

You sound like a valued contributor who can have a reasoned debate ::)

I give a f*ck. As a neutral I go to the Antrim semis hoping to see the best of what Antrim has on offer...instead the first game was overshadowed by his shenanigans.

Daddy daycare?! - when my son is old enough to learn how to play football I will show him a video of Scullion and ask him to do the opposite of what he does. This is no longer a personal tirade on Scullion (that has gone!) but your comment "do whatever it takes to win" draws this out and is a reference to what a player should be taught to do on the field...
I will tell him to hit hard and fair on the ball.
I will also tell him to take his tackles like a man.

Would I rather watch him be a nasty piece of work and get his name on the trophy...or play the game hard and fair.

Your call, I know which one would make me proud.

Well a certain Mr Kennelly lifted the Sam Maguire last year with a so called 'disgraceful act'. Its the name of the game, be proud as punch for whatever your young lad does, you'll be prouder when he stands in the casement stand with the trophey aloft.

All im saying is ive watched the matches, Karl Stewarts tackle was bad, no body ranting about it.

What were these shenanigans Scullioon was at? I didnt hear any St Brigids players complaining?

Who said Kennelly's act was disgraceful? I don't recall ever saying that. He made a twat of himself by his comments in his book. I've seen worse than his tackle.

They must be doing the same for the final as last year. Trying to double up on the money. It was perfect for a double header too - pity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 14, 2010, 02:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Are you sure?
Not 100%, but a Cargin player told me so I'd say it's true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 14, 2010, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2010, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 14, 2010, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 13, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: BanagusOir on September 13, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Glensman and Imtommygunn, what is this f**king daddy daycare. Who gives a f**k what Tony Scullion does, or anyone on the Cargin team. As a matter of fact who cares what st johns or st galls do either. If you played enough football you would know the saying 'do whatever it takes to win'. Every player in Antrim should live by it. Nobody remembers what any one person does, its the name on the trophey that matters. His behaviour is out of line, Jesus Christ.

It's an opinion that we're allowed to voice.

You sound like a valued contributor who can have a reasoned debate ::)

I give a f*ck. As a neutral I go to the Antrim semis hoping to see the best of what Antrim has on offer...instead the first game was overshadowed by his shenanigans.

Daddy daycare?! - when my son is old enough to learn how to play football I will show him a video of Scullion and ask him to do the opposite of what he does. This is no longer a personal tirade on Scullion (that has gone!) but your comment "do whatever it takes to win" draws this out and is a reference to what a player should be taught to do on the field...
I will tell him to hit hard and fair on the ball.
I will also tell him to take his tackles like a man.

Would I rather watch him be a nasty piece of work and get his name on the trophy...or play the game hard and fair.

Your call, I know which one would make me proud.

Well a certain Mr Kennelly lifted the Sam Maguire last year with a so called 'disgraceful act'. Its the name of the game, be proud as punch for whatever your young lad does, you'll be prouder when he stands in the casement stand with the trophey aloft.

All im saying is ive watched the matches, Karl Stewarts tackle was bad, no body ranting about it.

What were these shenanigans Scullioon was at? I didnt hear any St Brigids players complaining?

Who said Kennelly's act was disgraceful? I don't recall ever saying that. He made a t**t of himself by his comments in his book. I've seen worse than his tackle.

They must be doing the same for the final as last year. Trying to double up on the money. It was perfect for a double header too - pity.


As previously stated Stewart got sent off (any confirmation whether it was a straight red or not yet?). Punishment fitted the crime.

Scullion didn't even get booked (I don't think). I'd say if you looked at the video you'd see at least 4/5 instances where he should have been.
I'd guess the Brigids players didn't complain half for fear for yer man taking their head off in a challenge off the ball! Alternatively, if they shouted too loud our Tony might have burst an ear drum and fallen over like he was shot again.
It's a pantomime, but sure he's your Tony and you gotta love him.

"Its the name of the game"...what the f**k?!
Hitting someone (on the ball) a good early tackle is certainly part of the game, let him know you're there, he won't get through you easily or have an easy day at the office.
There is a big difference between that and (a) repeated abuse off the ball, (b) diving like a pansy and (c) a pre-meditated effort to floor a boy.
Kennelly owned up to partaking in (c) and because of that left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths about him, even I'd say some Kerry folk.

In other news:
Real shame if its not a double header - would have been a great day out with a decent crowd.

I would have taken yer man Jackpot off...leaving him on was dangerous as he looked like a liability and it cost the Johnnies, dearly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2010, 07:43:53 PM
Did anybody hit him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 15, 2010, 10:58:19 AM
Hit who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: funtime frankie on September 15, 2010, 03:37:25 PM
I was told that the final was on saturday night as well and hurling on sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2010, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 15, 2010, 10:58:19 AM
Hit who?

The Jackpot ....... drruuuuummmm tish      ;D ;D

Was worth the wait
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 15, 2010, 09:49:35 PM
According to the Antrim website, the Senior Final is on Sat 25th @ 7pm in Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 16, 2010, 04:57:44 PM
Anyone know how much it is into the minor game tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on September 16, 2010, 05:07:32 PM
apparently its free
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2010, 07:21:29 PM
Would rather stick needles in my eyes than go, oh  and I'm getting my hair cut ;)

Will Lamhs spoil the Johnnies year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 16, 2010, 07:25:16 PM
Any Antrim clubs taking part at Kilmacud? Heard Ahoghill are in the intermediate section. Thinking of heading down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2010, 07:29:45 PM
Group 1                                 Group 2   
Dohenys GAA Cork                  Mattock Rangers Louth
St. Eunans Donegal                 Derrygonnelly Fermanagh   
Thomas Davis Dublin                An Ríocht Down
Ballaghadereen Mayo               St. Marys (Saggart) Dublin

Group 3                                 Group 4   
St Annes  Dublin                     St Galls Antrim
Ilen Rovers Cork                      Loup Derry
St. Michaels  Donegal               Navan OMahony Meath
Western Gaels Roscommon       Cortoon Shamrocks Galway     


Group 5                                 Group 6   
Bellaghy Derry                         Bryansford Down
Newtownbutler Fermanagh       Dunboyne Meath 
Horeswood Wexford                Belturbet Cavan
Charlestown Mayo                    ODonovan Rossa Cork

Group 7                                  Group 8   
Kickhams Creggan                    Antrim Clonduff Down
Blackhall Gaels Meath                Clonguish Longford
Clonoe ORahilly Tyrone             St. Sylvesters Dublin       
Breaffy Mayo                           Claregalway Galway

Group 9                                 Group 10   
St Olafs Dublin                         Longstone Down
Dromore Tyrone                      Newtown Blues Louth
St Lomans Westmeath             Colmcille Longford           
St. Johns Antrim                      Latton ORahillys Monaghan

Group 11                                Group 12   
St. Malachys Down                   Aodh Ruadh Donegal     
Parnells Dublin                         Caherlistrane Galway
St. Marys  Derry                       Kilkoo Down
Tullamore Offaly                      Kilmacud Crokes Dublin       



Venues

Glenalbyn Groups 1 & 2
St Benildus College Groups 3 & 4
Silverpark Groups 5, 6, 7 & 8
Naomh Olaf Groups 9, 10, 11 & 12

Group games will be played on a league basis. The winner of each group will qualify for the knock-out stage of the competition. The first games take place at 11.00am
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 16, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
Thanks MR. Makings of a good day. If its as exciting as the year you beat Glenullin in the final it would be worth going to. Your match with An Lub could be worth seeing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 16, 2010, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 16, 2010, 07:25:16 PM
Any Antrim clubs taking part at Kilmacud? Heard Ahoghill are in the intermediate section. Thinking of heading down.
They are, the intermediate isn't at Kilmacud though, it's at Ratoath in Meath.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theLoup on September 16, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
anyone know if st galls are heading down with there strongest team for the kilacud sevens??
with cargin game the week after they might play the younger lads...
see there 6/4 on paddypower to win kilmacud this year,very short odds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2010, 10:36:15 PM
Heading down with the best team we have, sevens is very difficult, should we progress from the group then they will only get better. Down teams wont be great this year, they have something else to worry about ;)

might have a flutter on Kilmacud Crokes though, they also have Championship the following week but not at the final stages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theLoup on September 16, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
i was going to bet on st galls but that poor odds isnt it
yeah i was thinking kilmacud myself at 50/1
our team very young we sending down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 17, 2010, 08:35:11 AM
Quote from: theLoup on September 16, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
i was going to bet on st galls but that poor odds isnt it
yeah i was thinking kilmacud myself at 50/1
our team very young we sending down

Behave yourselves on the pitch and off it. Don't be tarnishing the good name of Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2010, 11:18:30 AM
Was the minor final on last night? If so anyone know who won it?  (Not seeing any results on county web-site)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2010, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2010, 11:18:30 AM
Was the minor final on last night? If so anyone know who won it?  (Not seeing any results on county web-site)

Lamh Dhearg won about 0-12 to 0-3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2010, 11:34:18 AM
Cheers.

As expected really then. Be interesting to see how they do in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2010, 01:45:39 PM
up against teams that have done well in the Schools cups and in the latter stages of the County minor championships.

Difficult for Antrim teams to win it, but they are a decent team so should give it a rattle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2010, 05:45:50 PM
Another sevens title MR. Great achievement considering you were without KMG, Niblock, Andy and Sean Kelly.

A credit to the county. Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2010, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2010, 05:45:50 PM
Another sevens title MR. Great achievement considering you were without KMG, Niblock, Andy and Sean Kelly.

A credit to the county. Well done.

just watched it on TG4. Never went down. only allowed one September weekend now :( so the hurling gets my vote.

4 of the lads that played had not won a Sevens before and was great to see Karl Stewart getting the player of the tournament.

Our centenary dinner this year in the Europa will be some craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: funtime frankie on September 22, 2010, 09:34:48 AM
Always did think that KS was a better footballer. Congrats to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 22, 2010, 04:53:08 PM
Cargin at 4/1 on PP. Seems like big odds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2010, 07:33:43 PM
Who are st galls missing from last year?

So Gallagher is gone. Any retirements (wouldn't expect any from the 15)? Kevin McGourty is missing isn't he? Andy McLean?

Cargin's performance last year was diabolical - I would be hoping to see them make a game of it this year but wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Rory Gallagher still playing (couldn't transfer as the transfer window closed in Jan) Andy still recovering but outside of that i think they are all here. maybe KMcG but the squad has improved with some good kids getting great experience with the all year training lately ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 22, 2010, 10:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Rory Gallagher still playing (couldn't transfer as the transfer window closed in Jan) Andy still recovering but outside of that i think they are all here. maybe KMcG but the squad has improved with some good kids getting great experience with the all year training lately ;)

Where was he trying to transfer to MR - another Antrim club?  There is no transfer window for Inter-County transfers - can go at any time of year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
Think he was going to Killybegs, but i'm near sure he couldn't transfer as we were still involved up to March 17th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on September 23, 2010, 10:46:37 AM
No inter county deadline as was on the hoganstand yesterday, a tipp footballer transfering from Dublin club to a Laois one I think and its expected to go through over the next few days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 02:27:44 PM
Which camp will be more nervous tonight? Not sure of the team yet. CJ could start maybe, but should stay the same. Cargin will be powerful early on i.d say its if they can keep it going. Red cards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 24, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 02:27:44 PM
Which camp will be more nervous tonight? Not sure of the team yet. CJ could start maybe, but should stay the same starts. Cargin will be powerful early on i.d say its if they can keep it going. Red cards?

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 09:58:31 PM
Ok he will start but i think we are better when strong players come off the bench. Cargin will have a game plan of stopping our halfback line coming forward and attacking down the wings. Michael McCann will be picked up by Aidso so they will cancel each other out, Kelly will mark the young McCann. That will hopefully stop Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2010, 10:06:45 PM
My sources tell me that St. Gall's have a big match on Sunday night against An Rinn of Waterford and may be taking it easy tomorrow night.

if we win on Saturday then i'll bring my gear for that match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 10:21:12 PM
I know the result of that ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 10:25:30 PM
I wont, cant wait to see it myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2010, 01:46:45 PM
Seems that we have a fully fit senior squad available tonight. Both Kevin's trained all week and are up for selection. Still think it will be tight though, point either way.

A lot at stake for our lads, centenary year, All Ireland winners and the bonus of the Sevens title also. Some of the lads down training the kids this morning and they seemed relaxed enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2010, 03:23:52 PM
What are the odds MR - you know?

I'd have thought Cargin were 4/1 or 5/1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2010, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2010, 03:23:52 PM
What are the odds MR - you know?

I'd have thought Cargin were 4/1 or 5/1?

Ladbrokes

St Galls 1/5 Cargin 4/1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2010, 03:47:45 PM
Cheers minder - just saw it on other thread.

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2010, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2010, 03:47:45 PM
Cheers minder - just saw it on other thread.

Sounds about right.

Just noticed PP odds, not much use if you fancied Cargin

St Galls 1/4 Cargin 10/3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2010, 04:24:06 PM
Paddy not taking any chances, might head round to Ladbrokes ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on September 25, 2010, 07:52:27 PM
Galls 7-5 up at HT according to Antrim twitter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2010, 08:05:36 PM
Five in to us and we arent playing well. 20 mins to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2010, 08:16:22 PM
8 Now. ten to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2010, 08:32:08 PM
jesus St Galls are some outfit. im sure they wouldnt have talked it about much before now, but a back to back all ireland is a REAL possibility. Cross and others will have plenty to say, but if this team are hungry enough they are certainly good enough for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on September 25, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
3-13 to 0-10 final result. Congrats, I'll settle for that tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2010, 09:40:35 PM
Very confusing, not sure if we are brilliant or Cargin are shite. St Johns give us a torrid time but Cargin were pants!!!

I seriously do feel sorry for Cargin, i feel tactically they got it really bad tonight, the only tactic that worked was Kevin OBoyle man marking Kieran McGourty. Gerard O'Boyle up front was good to be fair. the rest didn't matter. Tony Scullion was dung also. Pantomime villain.

Home early, the big match tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2010, 09:59:51 AM
I doubt there'll be a worse county final in Ireland this year.

St Galls leagues ahead - little more than a training exercise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 11:28:48 AM
So what happens next year? Do St Galls continue to win the Antrim Championship with no real push from the 'second best team'?

Majority of the players are still under 30 in the 27/28 age bracket and no sign of stopping. Having shown again that they still have the hunger we could win another 3 on the trot.

What team is showing promise to topple Naomh Gall?

oh and congrants to Sean Burns winning his 12 senior Football Championship medal. is there anyone who has won more Championship medals in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 26, 2010, 02:44:21 PM
from a neutral view: casement looked magnificent, not a big crowd and match rarely sparkled; ref too fussy; thought the girl put her heart into amhrainn na bhiann so for once i thought that worked.

disappointed with cargin. county men never stood out. michael mccann seems to be trying too hard and lacks confidence in front of goals. would he make a good centre-back?  o'boyle the only threat.

low point of the night - cargin manager dunting into the back of st gall's selector on sideline, trying to start something. sneaky and pathetic.

hope st gall's do well. thought o'boyle was turning their backs too handy - something to tighten up on.

kevin niblock is pure class.  i think he's going to be one of the best.  CJ showed his quality and overall it's easy to see why they are all ireland champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Cargin manager was selector slim shady. I noticed that one myself.

Don't know who can challenge st galls.

The st galls team are all similar age so I don't think they will improve much. Creggan, on underage form, should be pushing in the next 4 or 5 years to be contenders. GNM seem to have faded away after some underage talent.

St Brigids could improve too. Cargin are young but they were so disappointing last night - tactics and confidence level - so I wouldn't be sure about them challenging unless they can sort it out.

Niblock so strong on the ball and has got more mobile. Caused havoc really and CJ one one one will only produce one result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Cargin manager was selector slim shady. I noticed that one myself.

Don't know who can challenge st galls.

The st galls team are all similar age so I don't think they will improve much. Creggan, on underage form, should be pushing in the next 4 or 5 years to be contenders. GNM seem to have faded away after some underage talent.

St Brigids could improve too. Cargin are young but they were so disappointing last night - tactics and confidence level - so I wouldn't be sure about them challenging unless they can sort it out.

Niblock so strong on the ball and has got more mobile. Caused havoc really and CJ one one one will only produce one result.

aye we were shouting at him ;D ;D ;D

hey slim give us a wave
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2010, 09:17:05 PM
Aye MR thats just what we need more soccer style chanting!  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 26, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2010, 10:06:45 PM
My sources tell me that St. Gall's have a big match on Sunday night against An Rinn of Waterford and may be taking it easy tomorrow night.

if we win on Saturday then i'll bring my gear for that match.
No need for that. Yis have already selected your panel.

(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/St%20Galls.JPG)

That's tomorrow's entertainment sorted.  The net cast as far and wide as it is for their footballers I see.

Well done yesterday. Hopefully the young buck will say something positive at lunch tme.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 10:11:22 PM
Oh i'm so soccer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 1life 1club on September 26, 2010, 11:39:11 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2010, 08:32:08 PM
jesus St Galls are some outfit. im sure they wouldnt have talked it about much before now, but a back to back all ireland is a REAL possibility. Cross and others will have plenty to say, but if this team are hungry enough they are certainly good enough for it
cross wont even get out of armagh ladthey got a lucky draw 2nite,,and if they did yous shouldnt fear them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on September 30, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
Is the JFC final on tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
Aye Aggies and O'D's

Must be the worst two teams to meet in a final, played against both this year and they were dung
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on September 30, 2010, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
Aye Aggies and O'D's

Must be the worst two teams to meet in a final, played against both this year and they were dung

Doesnt say a lot for the teams they beat on the way there! may go over and have a look or will it be that bad MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2010, 11:26:35 PM
Harsh MR - it is the junior final and neither have the pick of players that a club like you guys would have.

If O'Ds had been able to retain half the talent that walked through their door they'd have done quite well over the last 20 or so years but quite a lot seemed to slip through the grasp. Good setup they have now.

The Aggies got there last year. Both are clubs I would have admiration for. They have got it tight but a number of good clubmen have kept them at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2010, 10:50:34 AM
I.m not knocking the clubs. Just the standard. I can only give you my personal opinion on having played them. Has for our pick at that level its not great. Sorry if i sounded disrespectful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 02, 2010, 03:39:36 PM
So O'Ds won/stole it by a point, a lot of drinking done in the club last night I bet, fair play to them.

I agree with imtommygunn when he states about the talent, they are sandwiched between, St Johns, St Galls and Rossa and the lure of these clubs would be too much for some people if they came calling.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 02, 2010, 07:51:22 PM
O'Ds influx of transfers at the start of this year obviously has worked wonders!  Must of had about 30 players transfer back from other Belfast clubs.  Amazing what can happen when the (social) club is going well   :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Any craic on October 04, 2010, 01:27:44 AM
http://vimeo.com/15514778// - O'Donnell's manager is some craic after their JFC win. Dunloy's last kick equaliser against Rasharkin is on here too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 04, 2010, 11:47:08 PM
O'Ds manager is a legend.

Saw him last year with a big long coat on down to the ground and the collar up to his ears. Looked like some old style soccer manager barkin out the orders!

Fair play to them they've had a great year and the club as whole with the clubhouse, pitch and underage has come on a bomb. Some great work bein done there.

Hard luck to the Aggies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cardinal on October 05, 2010, 11:17:45 AM
Great to see that the hard work at the club hasn't gone unnoticed by our regal neighbours and do I detect a touch of envy regarding our social status. Believe me boys we would give it up in a heartbeat for more success on the pitch both Juvenile and Senior. It is good to have a solid financial backing , but if the hard works not done at grass roots then it counts for nothing. We are O'Donnells GAC not O'Donnells PLC.

                                              Slan.

           ( And the Aggies were very unlucky , good luck to them in the future )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cardinal on October 05, 2010, 11:25:57 AM
Just like to add a reply to MR , you could hardly have played against the Aggies and ourselves this year as we are both in different Senior divisions. I gather that if you played against either then you are not good enough to play for your 1 st 15 and are therefore of similar standard to both. So stop criticising others and get your head down then maybe you can play with the big boys.

                                                     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2010, 01:08:43 PM
Both south Antrim games Cardinal and we are talking about 2/3 players on both teams that were different to Friday night.

No disrespect but thats just my feeling on both teams. As for my own standard well, i'm past my best ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cardinal on October 05, 2010, 06:29:09 PM
Thanks for the tip Square Ball and the answer to your question is no , we won division 5 last year without the legend Jimbo.

                                                                 Lol Slan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 07, 2010, 11:46:15 PM
Donegal away --its gonna be tough!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cardinal on October 08, 2010, 10:49:17 AM
Do you think we can take anything from the dress rehearsal in the NFL.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2010, 04:41:12 PM
Great opportunity to develop players. Also week in week out playing in division 2 should be good for the current crop.

We could do with developing a few more forwards, particularly half forwards, so hopefully get a few new faces in the panel. A corner back would be good too.

Without the st galls players(if it comes to it) we may struggle in division 2 mind. (In fact come to think of it we may struggle with them!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 11, 2010, 02:56:52 PM
Heard there was a bit of a dust-up in the reserve cup final yesterday, anyone at it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 04:09:40 PM
wasn't at it but heard there was 5 sent off!! expected it to kick off  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 12, 2010, 03:06:37 PM
(http://antrim.gaa.ie/uploads/assets/antrimgameswebsite2.jpg)

New Antrim Coaching & Games Website Launched
http://www.antrimgaagamesdevelopment.ie/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2010, 04:29:29 PM
Will it be the same sarcy admin ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: UGAAWA on October 13, 2010, 11:55:24 PM
Ulster Gaels' big night out!

Tickets are now on sale for the 23rd Ulster GAA Writers' Association Banquet which will be held this year in the Slieve Russell Hotel, Co Cavan.

The Quinn Insurance Ulster GAA Writers Banquet is the only awards ceremony that honours players from all codes as well as grass-roots Gaels.

There is plenty to celebrate this year with Down's run to the All-Ireland SFC final, Tyrone lifting the minor title, Antrim's hurlers regaining their place amongst the sport's big guns, Armagh's rise up the hurling ranks, St Galls' march to All Ireland glory, the ladies of Tyrone and Donegal on the All Ireland stage, Paul Brady continuing to set the world handball benchmark and the Saffron camógs' All Ireland among the Ulster success stories.

As usual a star-studded guest list from all codes will celebrate all that is good in Gaelic games in the province in 2010. Tickets are priced £50 or €60 and are available by contacting Tony McGee at tony.mcgee@btinternet.com or visit www.ulstergaawriters.com for full details.

Accommodation in the Slieve Russell Hotel can be booked here: www.slieverussell.ie. Click here for a list of alternative accommodation in the area:  http://www.irishtourist.com/directory/accommodation/north/cavan/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on October 15, 2010, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2010, 04:41:12 PM

Without the st galls players(if it comes to it) we may struggle in division 2 mind. (In fact come to think of it we may struggle with them!)
[/i]

Certainly, the presence of the St. Gall's players last year, made a big difference.

Before their return - won 4 out of 5
After their return - won 1 out of 5

Top performances!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Well then with damming evidence like that then St Galls shouldn't bother. would free them up for the Antrim Championship. What about this for a idea maybe some players had their nose's put out of joint or other teams leading up to championship got fitter and better. whats your view?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2010, 01:37:50 PM
Any unlikely stalwarts get texts last night to join the county football panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on October 31, 2010, 03:21:42 PM
Anyone know who won the Rasharkin v Castlewdawson game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 31, 2010, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on October 31, 2010, 03:21:42 PM
Anyone know who won the Rasharkin v Castlewdawson game?

Someone on the Derry football thread is suggesting Rasharkin won by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 12, 2010, 11:44:40 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2010, 01:37:50 PM
Any unlikely stalwarts get texts last night to join the county football panel?

No response to this.
Anyone aware of any new faces that may be on the county panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 18, 2010, 11:49:03 AM
From Hoganstand

Antrim boss Liam Bradley has taken the bold decision to drop goalkeepers Sean McGreevy and John Finucane from his squad ahead of the new season.

Entering his third year as manager, Bradley admitted both McGreevy, a former All-Star nominee, and Finuance, who kept goal in last year's Ulster final, were bitterly disappointed when informed of his decision.

"Neither of them were very happy. But that is my job. These things have to be done. No-one likes doing it. But it comes with the territory," he said in The Irish News.



Bradley has replaced the duo with Davitt's clubman Sean O'Neill and Chris Kerr, who is second choice to Fermanagh 'keeper Ronan Gallagher at St. Gall's.

O'Neill currently plays for Dungannon Swifts in the Irish League and has been capped at underage level for Northern Ireland.

"I went to see him playing for his club in a couple of games last year. He is really comfortable on the ball and he is a great fielder of the ball. He is an ideal goalkeeper," added Bradley, who has also drafted James Laverty (Cargin), Mark McAleese (Portglenone), Damien McNeill (Rasharkin) and Mark Sweeney (St. Brigid's) into his squad.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on November 18, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 18, 2010, 11:49:03 AM

Bradley has replaced the duo with Davitt's clubman Sean O'Neill and Chris Kerr, who is second choice to Fermanagh 'keeper Ronan Gallagher at St. Gall's.
O'Neill currently plays for Dungannon Swifts in the Irish League and has been capped at underage level for Northern Ireland.

"I went to see him playing for his club in a couple of games last year. He is really comfortable on the ball and he is a great fielder of the ball. He is an ideal goalkeeper," added Bradley, who has also drafted James Laverty (Cargin), Mark McAleese (Portglenone), Damien McNeill (Rasharkin) and Mark Sweeney (St. Brigid's) into his squad.


I have not seen Bradley at to many club games.

O'Neill plays outfield for his club, so when did he watch him last year?

How can he pick Kerr when he can't get on his own club team.  :-\

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2010, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 16, 2009, 10:00:58 AM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=Antrim+team+v+Tyrone+copy%2Dweb%2Ejpg&w=500)

Graham was in...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 23, 2010, 03:16:06 PM
Mick McCann wins replacement allstar, im sure it must be for the 2009 team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2010, 09:49:27 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9241168.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9241168.stm)

Always liked Sean Kelly as a player - I think he's been St Galls most influential one over the last few years.

I would have to say I'm disappointed though that a) he is retiring at 28 and b) one of his reasons is his unhappiness at his performances for the county.

If he's unhappy with his performances then he can still go out and rectify that surely :(

I just think he has a lot more to offer yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 30, 2010, 10:26:40 AM
Sean Kelly a big loss for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Winnie Peg on December 06, 2010, 09:06:56 PM
Heard James Loughrey will not be playing for Antrim next year. Him and Kelly are two big losses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 07, 2010, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on December 06, 2010, 09:06:56 PM
Heard James Loughrey will not be playing for Antrim next year. Him and Kelly are two big losses.

Loughrey is taking a year to concentrate on his studies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 07, 2010, 10:24:58 PM
Paul Buchanan and Jim Herron take over at Hannahstown.

Naomh Pol looking for a new managerial team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2010, 10:29:07 PM
When was the last time Paul took a senior team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on December 16, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
From Hoganstand

Antrim manager Liam Bradley has included nine St. Gall's players in his McKenna Cup squad.

Bradley was forced to plan without his St. Gall's contingent for last season's McKenna Cup campaign and much of the National League as they swept to All-Ireland club glory. But their defeat to Crossmaglen in this year's Ulster club championship means the Milltown men will be able to play a full part in 2011.



The St. Gall's players included are Chris Kerr, Colin Brady, Andy McClean, Anto Healy, Aodhan Gallagher, Terry O'Neill, Kevin and CJ McGourty and Kevin Niblock.

The newcomers to Bradley's squad are Sean O'Neill, Brendan McCann, Mark Sweeney, Richard Johnston and James Laverty. Antrim's first game in the McKenna will be against Armagh in the Athletic Grounds on Sunday, January 9.

Antrim (McKenna Cup squad): C Kerr, C Brady, A McClean, K O'Boyle, T Scullion, J Crozier, M McAleese, J Loughrey, R Johnston, A Healy, M McCann, B McCann, B Herron, A Gallagher, D McCann, T O'Neill, S O'Neill, K McGourty, J Laverty, K Brady, T McCann, M Dougan, E McNeill, CJ McGourty, M Magill, P Cunningham, K Niblock, A Douglas, M Sweeney.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2010, 09:36:40 PM
9 Nine players !!!! no need for winter training at the club then ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2010, 09:45:28 PM
Always surprised when they overlook Kieran. He's a heartbeat of the St Gall's side. A fine playmaker. I suppose his age, pot belly and developing baldness may give the wrong impression.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 16, 2010, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2010, 09:45:28 PM
Always surprised when they overlook Kieran. He's a heartbeat of the St Gall's side. A fine playmaker. I suppose his age, pot belly and developing baldness may give the wrong impression.

He will be up with the hurlers though, will he not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on December 16, 2010, 10:19:04 PM
Who is Brendan McCann? What club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2010, 09:45:28 PM
Always surprised when they overlook Kieran. He's a heartbeat of the St Gall's side. A fine playmaker. I suppose his age, pot belly and developing baldness may give the wrong impression.

Skinny rake!! no pot belly on him, in the genes ya see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 18, 2010, 02:39:45 PM
2010 is over and the Antrim Leagues and Championship are long over.

I see on other county's threads they have picked the best 15 for 2010 in Div 1, Div 2 etc. Theres maybe not the numbers or interest on the Antrim thread to do this but anyone who wants to should give it a go.

I'm too lazy/hungover at present to do so but will think about it and do it later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
The only SFC match I made this year was the final.

Looking at that it would be hard to pick many outside St Galls.  Cargin didn't have too many stand outs on the day. St Brigids bound to have a few contenders though and maybe a few others. Anyone who's seen more comment?

I would say in division 2 rasharkin would have quite a few contenders. They've one or two in the county setup now who obviously impressed. Always thought Jonny McAleese was a great player too. He probably tortures defenses in division 2.

Kieran McGourty would merit a county place - maybe it's age though. Very clever footballer. Where has the creggan keeper Graham gone? Seems to have disappeared.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on December 22, 2010, 11:38:40 AM
Totally agree, kieran mc gourty doesnt get as much recognition as the other two brothers, he is a very intelligent footballer, picks up breaking ball and st galls playmaker along with kelly makes them tick.

What does everyone make of the new additions to the panel for the year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 22, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 18, 2010, 02:39:45 PM
2010 is over and the Antrim Leagues and Championship are long over.

I see on other county's threads they have picked the best 15 for 2010 in Div 1, Div 2 etc. Theres maybe not the numbers or interest on the Antrim thread to do this but anyone who wants to should give it a go.

I'm too lazy/hungover at present to do so but will think about it and do it later.

My team (for what its worth and incorporating league and championship, what little of it I saw):

1. ANother
2. Colm Brady
3. Aaron Douglas
4. Kevin O'Boyle
5. Anto Healy
6. Sean Kelly
7. McAleese (Portglenone)
8. Mick McCann
9. Paul Doherty
10. James Loughrey
11. Kevin Niblock
12. Mark Sweeney
13. P Cunnigham
14. Mark Dougan
15. Bam Neeson
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on December 22, 2010, 01:38:55 PM
1.kerr/o neill
2.brady
3.mc clean
4.o boyle
5.healy
6. crozier
7. loughrey
8. mick mc cann
9. gallagher
10. o neill
11.niblock
12. kevin mc gourty
13. cunningham
14.cj mc gourty
15.magill/burke(out to play 3rd midfielder), tomas mc cann.

Would be a solid team to play against donegal come championship, goalkeeper position is up for grabs between both lads. rest of team picks itself, its time to get rid of scullion, runs down too many blind alleys, more concerned with getting involved with opponent, kicks away to much possession. healy is much more comfortable on the ball, id like to see mc clean play at chb as he is a ball player but we cant take him out from the edge of the square.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 22, 2010, 05:52:38 PM
I assume that's your suggested Antrim 15, which while a good team isn't a Division 1/Division 2 selection - quite a few of them played less than a handful of league games!

Agree re Scullion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2010, 11:41:57 AM
too many players from the same teams (Cargin/Galls) both sets of players have a serious unhealthy dislike of each other. Can't be a good thing IMHO

How many Crokes players play Kerry? and Cross haw many have they got for Armagh? and how many Nemo players play for Cork? Tyrone have a very broad slection of clubs representing the county team.

I also agreee on Scullion though ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on December 23, 2010, 01:38:06 PM
But they are the best footballers in the county, nothing can be done about that, have to go with our strongest 15 regardless of there clubs.

everyone can see it regarding scullion, good athlete, pace etc. but the game is gaelic football, no football brain and kicking possession away which we have to fight hard for.

what other players are out there though milltown?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 06, 2011, 11:26:08 AM
Any toughts ahead of sunday's game in cross?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
Did some boy from Tyrone get called into the panel? Who is he / what's the connection? Some ONeill fella or am I wrong here?

Hard to say - very new panel. McKenna cup for trying new players so hopefuly we can get a few potential starters for the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on January 06, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
Did some boy from Tyrone get called into the panel? Who is he / what's the connection? Some ONeill fella or am I wrong here?

Hard to say - very new panel. McKenna cup for trying new players so hopefuly we can get a few potential starters for the championship.
dean o'niell from omagh is on the antrim panel, not sure what the connection is, but hes a decent footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2011, 12:59:58 PM
From County site

The team to play Armagh this Sunday is:

Sean O Neill

Colin Brady
Andy Mc Lean
Kevin O Boyle  Capt

Tony Scullion
Justin Crozier
Terry O Neill

Brendan Herron
Aodhan Gallagher

Dean O Neill
Mark Sweeney
Mark Mc Aleese

Paddy Cunningham
C J Mc Gourty
Kevin Brady

Chris Kerr
Mark Dougan
Anto Healey
Richard Johnson
James Lavery
Dermott Mc Cann
Tomas Mc Cann
Kevin Niblock

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2011, 02:14:36 PM
I'd prefer to see more experimentation particularly at FF.

Our HF line has been quite poor so to experiment there is good to see.

Lavery is Cargin isn't he? Who is Johson?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 06, 2011, 02:59:37 PM
lads, apart from m.mc cann and k.mc gourty, the squad looks relatively weakened compared to the last few seasons?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2011, 03:48:33 PM
There's a good few in the Queens panel who would strengthen it. J'Town too though maybe not so many there.

Who've we not got from last year? Loughrey isn't playing? Then Kelly / McGreevy?

Is Kieran Close on the panel?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 06, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Pretty sure Dean O'Neill is a halfback. Mark McAleese definitely is. Terry O'Neill, a half-forward, is named in the half-back line. Surely the experiment of playing half-backs in half-forward last year didn't work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 06, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
Dean O'Neill normally plays wing half back for Omagh alright.  Baker continuing his fixation with playing 4 wing backs on his team  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2011, 11:02:42 AM
It was more an experiment of playing no HF line at times!

Niblock would have to be CHF with a full team out. McCann in there too so hopefully we get one more from the McKenna cup...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 07, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
anyone travelling down to the game in cross? realistically this could be our only chance for silverware this year, i hope not though. Hope the new boys can step up to the plate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on January 09, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
antrim done weel 2day, kevin mc improved midfield in d 2nd, think dougan gd option at full-forwrad, cj couple of really class passes, wee bit concerned abt how much bigger derry are but antrim stayed wit them because there gd footballers. hard to read anything into a challenge match like that and hope the injured derry player has a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: andoireabu on January 09, 2011, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on January 09, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
antrim done weel 2day, kevin mc improved midfield in d 2nd, think dougan gd option at full-forwrad, cj couple of really class passes, wee bit concerned abt how much bigger derry are but antrim stayed wit them because there gd footballers. hard to read anything into a challenge match like that and hope the injured derry player has a speedy recovery!
How did it end up? Didn't get to the match and there is no word of it on the derry thread
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 10, 2011, 10:24:06 AM
Anyone up at the game in creggan yesterday? how are the new lads fairing? match against queens and derry now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on January 10, 2011, 11:56:45 PM
james laverty had a tough ask marking gerard o kane bt worked well in his first game, mark mc aleese wz busy and looked capable, brady done well on bradley and dermot mc cann played well fr 70mins. mark douan done well, and brendy herron done well in first 15
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: móidín doire on January 11, 2011, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on January 10, 2011, 11:56:45 PM
james laverty had a tough ask marking gerard o kane bt worked well in his first game, mark mc aleese wz busy and looked capable, brady done well on bradley and dermot mc cann played well fr 70mins. mark douan done well, and brendy herron done well in first 15

Do you know who the Derry player was who got injured at all or what happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 11, 2011, 11:37:39 AM
Dont know his name, hear it was a double break to his leg during the warm up is the reports ive heard.

good to hear the new boys doing well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 13, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
game in casement this saturday night? much of a crowd expected? Looking forward to getting down and getting a look at the new boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 13, 2011, 10:47:04 PM
Bump
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2011, 11:08:21 PM
Not sure this should be played. Personally I couldnt care about football this weekend. RIP Michaela.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2011, 11:45:48 PM
Might head up to Casement tomorrow. Just for  a wee look
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 17, 2011, 10:03:45 AM
Thought the team played well at times, some scores were outstanding. The new boys didnt look out of place at all! look forward to wednesday night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on January 17, 2011, 10:19:02 AM

Lads,

Anyone know when the County Championship draws are made?

Ta
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 18, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
Many going to the games this week? Anyone have any views on saturday nights game? :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 18, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
Yeah think alot of hype around the young lad, hes still along way to go to be compared to kelly or loughrey. some decent performances. bigger challenge tomorrow night in casement park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ApresMatch on January 18, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
Wat time that game at 2mo?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Big Puff on January 18, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: ApresMatch on January 18, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
Wat time that game at 2mo?

7.30pm

antrim 11/8
Down 4/6
Draw 15/2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2011, 12:26:03 PM
Interesting game last night. First half so piss poor by Antrim that one person beside me commented that it was the biggest waste of £9 he had ever seen. Nothing to like about the first half, but plenty to learn. Like Aidso must be midfield. Like Justy must be in the half back line. Like Niblock is number 11, and our one true superstar - full stop. Like its good to experiment, but that division two will be so competitive that we need a settled team in there to hit the ground running from the start! And we learned that we have a top class goalkeeper - but if you check my posts from two years ago you`ll see I have always reckoned Sean O Neill to be top notch.

Loads of real positives to take from the second half. Mark Dougan when stripped down to his proper fighting weight will be a huge asset in full forward (been saying that for a long time as well). Paddy Hands had his best display for years in showing, winning and using his own ball. And taking no shit from Dan Mc Cartan. The whole defence for getting completely on top of a highly regarded Down attack. That Koby is pure class, and Andy is up there with the best when he gets a good run at it.

Nice to know that when the ante was raised in the second half, we looked good against a team that threw away last years All Ireland. In the end it was good enough value for the money, and we could have won it. Plenty to like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 20, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
Having been to both games this week there are alot of positives to take.

goalkeepers- Sean made an outstanding save at an important time,both done well kerr had nothing to do on saturday night, both very smart from kickouts which we have lacked in recent years

defence- o boyle, mc clean and brady were excellent 2nd half especially colin brady, dermot mc cann was very good saturday night, again scullion i dont know what the baker see's in him doesnt look interested at times, anto healey was MOM on saturday night. crozier has been decent. dean o neill has done well for his first few games.

Midfield- aidso is a must in midfield, still not sure about herron- though michael mc cann and kevin mc gourty to come back in.

half forward-couldnt agree more with niblock, even the way he plays the game he just gets on with it and has to be no11. terry o neill plays his better football at wing forward. sweeney made a big impact coming on in the half forward line and looks a great addition to the squad.

full forward-paddy had one of his better games from play especially 2nd half he terrorised there back line. dougan made a nuisance of himself. with cj still to come back in. things are looking good for us this year.

i have been really impressed hope we can win on sunday and then get ready for the league. the futures bright. the future is SAFFRON
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM
Fair play to the footballers yesterday. Great win. Semi scheduled at 7pm on Saturday v Derry at Celtic Park. I wonder was there a toss for this are was it already determined beforehand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 24, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
great win down in armagh aswell. it could have been 8 or 9 in it at the end if we had have taken our chances. where was this confirmed colonel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
the twitter link on the county site
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 25, 2011, 01:37:53 PM
Any thoughts ahead of the derry game? 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2011, 01:05:16 PM
What will the Antrim team be tonight? Derry look strong, high scoring and at home, well Derry city ain't home of Derry football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 31, 2011, 10:39:27 AM
Was at the game with my son on saturday night and after a bright start. a few silly mistakes in defence lead to two goals which ended up being the difference. Though scoring 0-14 away from home is a great positive to take away, with the mc canns, mc gourty, magil, gallagher and mc clean missing. Alot to look forward to for the league, starting with kildare in casement on sunday.

chris kerr- varied kickouts well long and short with one kickout resulting in a point for derry other than that very dominant in and around the square and brilliant stop from lynch in the 2nd period- 6.5

dermot mc cann- too loose on his man, maybe due to lack of game time due to late injury to mc clean(hamstring i think). 5
colin brady- had the job of picking up paddy bradley, although bradley scored 1-4 brady shackled him well and done all he could with a constant derry threat.6
Kevin o Boyle- too loose on gilligan who won alot of ball and set up scores all night. 5.5

tony scullion- good attacking with his pace and powerful running, but defensive duties need tightened up, lynch must have scored 6-7 points and at times was in acres of space. 6
anto healy- his man scored the first goal, was steady throughout-6
dean o neill- quiet enough, compared to previous games. tried hard though throughout- 6

brendan herron- got through a mountain of work, competeted for kickouts all night, could have done with his partner gallagher though. 7
justin crozier- didnt look interested or completley lost at midfield, shadow of the player he was.4

terry o neill- played as a sweeper most of the night, used the ball well, few mistakes which lead to scores. worked tirelessly.6
kevin niblock- we would struggle something shocking without him, his ball winning ability, strength to break tackles, vision and the ball he puts into the ff line. 8
mark sweeney- worked hard at wing forward, covered alot of ground. great find.won alot of breaking ball. shooting let him down. 7

cj mc gourty- scored a few points, kicked as many wide, not one of his better days. poor attitude.5
mark dougan-antrims MOM, scored 4+ from play from what i recall, great strength, ball winnning. give the derry full back a torrid time. 9
paddy cunningham- missed a few frees, showed glimpses. poor for his standards. 6

All in all it was a mixed bag at the weekend, some great scores and movement, but lapses in concentration cost us. alot of players to come back in for the league, think this mckenna cup campaign has benefited us hugely. i look forward to 2011 league and championship. hope there is a big crowd for the game on sunday to cheer the boys on.

anyone else have any views?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2011, 12:20:21 PM
FF is a position we've been lacking in so good to see Dougan stepping up here. If Magill comes back (where is he anyway?) it will lead to good competition in the FF line.

Sounds like Sweeney , Dougan and possibly O'Neill are good finds so if that is the case it's been a successful McKenna cup campaign.

I worry about our FB line at times. Kevin O'Boyle far too loose in my opinion and if I'm honest I don't rate McLean as beign great either. I think McCann more of a half back to be fair to him.

With Kevin McGourty, potentially Magill, Gallagher etc to come back I think there is a lot to be positive about after the McKenna campaign. Make no mistake here though division 2 is going to be extremely tough for us however I think it will do us the power of good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 01, 2011, 08:56:11 AM
Yeah im lookin forward to the game on sunday. If we can get a good result on sunday it could set us for the rest of the campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clarshack on February 03, 2011, 10:20:59 AM
can anyone give directions to ardoynes pitch (from m1 direction)?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on February 03, 2011, 11:28:31 AM
I think our failing against Derry, was our sweeper system was no as derry ran the ball forward rather than kicking it, therefore taking sweeper out of game. derry kicked short kickouts and our full forward line didnt chase back on numerous times leading to scores for derry.
work-rate needs to be upped by all players and sweeper needs to devised better. the difference between derry breaking out of defence and antrim breaking out was night and day!
derry bursted out at speed with sweeper covering for man carrying ball and antrim dilly dallied with ball coming out, allowing derry half forwards to filter back into defence ready for next counter attack!
took baker ages to catch onto short kickouts!
i hope antrim get right result on sunday but unless these problems are addressed i feel they wont!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 03, 2011, 02:41:46 PM
Any word on Michael Magill?

Is he training with the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 03, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 03, 2011, 10:20:59 AM
can anyone give directions to ardoynes pitch (from m1 direction)?

What venue are you playing them at clarshack?  They don't play games at their home pitch in Ardoyne - normally play in Mallusk i think - which would mean come up the M2 and take Mallusk exit at top of hill - head for Antrim and Mallusk Playing Fields should be signposted on the left somewhere once you are out past all the industrial units.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on February 03, 2011, 04:40:21 PM
Never made it to any mc kenna cup games but looking forward to sunday.

Good reports about the new keepers and dean o neill.  Kildare will be a different animal to derry and i would be fearful about them running up a big score.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2011, 09:11:08 PM
Culchie that sweeper system we play didn't work last year so I really hope, for the league at least, we scrap it and go man to man >:(

It's' become predictable and when teams can combat it effectively Baker isn't reacting quick enough.(Baker has brought us on somewhat so I don't want to be critical of him but the one, pretty major, issue I see is his insistence on the sweeper system leading to his lack of HF line).

Personally for Sunday I'd like to see a HF line of McGourty, Niblock and Sweeney and for them to stay there and take on their men. McGourty can rove too but won't be the spare defender.

I think we can beat Kildare. It will be tough though but if we want to stay in this league it's a game we need to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2011, 09:46:15 PM
Need to get a results at home in all the home games to have any chance at staying in this league. To be fair Antrim have caught a lot of teams out early on in the league since Baker came in, that hopefully will continue on Sunday.

Team named yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on February 03, 2011, 10:26:18 PM
Aontroim V Cill Dara

1 Sean O Neill Mac Diabheid
2 Colin Brady Naomh Gall
3 Andy Mc Clean Naomh Gall
4 Kevin O Boyle  Capt Clann na hEireann
5 Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann
6 Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
7 Dean O Neill Naomh Enda
8 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg
9 Aodhan Gallagher Naomh Gall
10 Mark Sweeney Naomh Brid
11 Kevin Mc Gourty Naomh Gall
12 Terry O Neill Naomh Gall
13 Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
14 Mark Dougan Ciceam Creagan
15 Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall

16 Chris Kerr Naomh Gall
17 Aaron Douglas Naomh Eoin
18 Anto Healy Naomh Gall
19 Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
20 James Lavery Clann na hEireann
21 Kevin Brady Naomh Eargnaid
22 Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
23 Michael Mc Cann Clann na hEireann
24 Mark Mc Aleese Mhic Asmaint

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2011, 10:32:19 PM
No CJ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2011, 10:33:48 PM
My first thoughts too MR. Hopefully injured and nothing more to it - you never are too sure with those boys!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 04, 2011, 12:29:15 AM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on February 03, 2011, 10:26:18 PM
Aontroim V Cill Dara

1 Sean O Neill Mac Diabheid DIV3
2 Colin Brady Naomh Gall DIV1
3 Andy Mc Clean Naomh Gall DIV1
4 Kevin O Boyle  Capt Clann na hEireann DIV1
5 Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann DIV1
6 Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann DIV1
7 Dean O Neill Naomh Enda
8 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg DIV1
9 Aodhan Gallagher Naomh Gall DIV1
10 Mark Sweeney Naomh Brid DIV1
11 Kevin Mc Gourty Naomh Gall DIV1
12 Terry O Neill Naomh Gall DIV1
13 Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg DIV1
14 Mark Dougan Ciceam Creagan DIV1
15 Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall DIV1

16 Chris Kerr Naomh Gall DIV3
17 Aaron Douglas Naomh Eoin DIV1
18 Anto Healy Naomh Gall DIV1
19 Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa DIV2
20 James Lavery Clann na hEireann DIV1
21 Kevin Brady Naomh Eargnaid DIV1
22 Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg DIV1
23 Michael Mc Cann Clann na hEireann DIV1
24 Mark Mc Aleese Mhic Asmaint DIV2




Divison 1 players - 19
Division 2 players - 2
Division 3 players - 2

Plus 1 Tyrone boy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 04, 2011, 11:27:54 AM
Irish news states cj is having a hip operation. Big loss, very effective from play.

i agree with going man to man there are boys there who can hold their own with any player in ireland.

im worried about the bench though. Apart from michael mc cann there isnt anyone else who can change the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
How is Murray shaping up?

A few years ago he sounded to be a good prospect though doesn't seem to have made the breakthrough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clarshack on February 04, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 03, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 03, 2011, 10:20:59 AM
can anyone give directions to ardoynes pitch (from m1 direction)?

What venue are you playing them at clarshack?  They don't play games at their home pitch in Ardoyne - normally play in Mallusk i think - which would mean come up the M2 and take Mallusk exit at top of hill - head for Antrim and Mallusk Playing Fields should be signposted on the left somewhere once you are out past all the industrial units.

wont know venue for sure until tonight but a friend reckons they play on cliftonville road?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
The 'Crickey'? i used hair gel the last time i played there. Doubt they are playing there. play their games at Mallusk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clarshack on February 06, 2011, 01:15:46 AM
Game is at mullask
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2011, 06:42:58 PM
Not a great start today.

Key reasons for losing were complete inability to win any break ball in midfield, missing centre of defense, lack of ability to break tackle and to be honest the movement wasn't too hot at times.

Lowlights: Neither of the league debutants did anything to suggest they will be good additions, Kevin McGourty needs to concentrate more on the game rather than mouthing, Justin Crozier still not living up to his potential and we picked a midfield who weren't competing.

Highlights: Michael McCann very good when he came on, Healy looks like he could be a good addition(to the squad at least though I think he merits a start), Dougan looks reasonbly dangerous when he got the ball and Paddy Cunningham looked like a class act today.

Tony Scullion would have probably been best for us - he drove at Kildare a lot and drew frees, Kevin O'Boyle not bad either.

Realistically I think to compete at this level the midfield must be McGourty and McCann. Loughrey is irreplacable to us and that showed today. I also , no harm to the fella, don't think Terry O'Neill is working for us at intercounty level. Niblock must be CHF too. The sweeper wasn't played all day today but was for a good bit and, as usual, didn't work. Also as per the Kildare c'ship game we couldn't combat their sweeper. We need to get smarter to this being played against us. It counteracted Cunningham and Dougan a lot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 07, 2011, 09:31:13 AM
sean o neill- good save in second half,kickouts were poor,struggled to hit midfield - 5

colin brady- one of our better performers, few good blocks and stealing possesion. 6.5
andy mc lean- battled well, unlucky with 2nd yellow card in my opinion. 4
kevin o boyle- good block in first half. not a great 2nd half. 6

tony scullion- good attacking option run at kildare with power and pace, defensive duties arent great.5/6
justin croziier- abysmal. done nothing in such an important postion.3
dean o neill- battled well, had his hands full with there no10. 5

aidan gallagher- started well with a few impressive catches and driving runs, faded as the game went on. 6
brendan herron- competed well in the middle, and was unlucky to be taken off.6.5

terry o neill- can tell by his body language he is not happy playing this role. gets through a mountain off work. 5
kevin mc gourty- throwing the toys out of the pram again, kicking the post after someone didnt pass him the ball. is he serious? was busy getting about the pitch, getting on the ball competing for kickouts. 5.5
mark sweeney- like herron unlucky to be taken off worked tirelessly, won a lot of breaking ball and worked back.

paddy cunningham- won alot of ball could score more from play, but expert free taker. frees kept us within touching distance. 8
mark dougan- won a few balls, after a good mckenna cup was a shadow of himself against derry.5
kevin niblock-won a mountain of ball and strong as an ox when carrying the ball. i dont understand why baker plays him in corner forward when his best position is no11. 6

1-17 with a sweeper system? i dont think its very fair on terry o neill either as he is a forward. loughrey and kelly are huge losses at this level. not a good start what so ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2011, 09:38:13 AM
I would agree with a lot of that Simon. Think you overestimate Sweeney/ Brady and I think Kevin O'Boyle had maybe 3 men who he was marking taken off so would give him a higher mark.

In second half Niblock, who played well to be fair to him, hit a bad ball to McGourty which McGourty's man chased down. Instead of chasing the ball down and hassling his man McGourty turned round and started shouting at Niblock. This guy is what - 28 years old? Will he ever grow up? It's ridiculous.

Also I thought Dougan was good when he got the ball. Not much played in though. Basically Kildare had a sweeper who was blocking the FF lines runs. Nothing was done to combat that - someone should have been pushed up on him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 07, 2011, 10:16:16 AM
it was a disgrace his behaviour, kicking the post. We definatley need him, hes our best player on his day but he just doesnt have enough of them days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2011, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 07, 2011, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2011, 09:38:13 AM
I would agree with a lot of that Simon. Think you overestimate Sweeney/ Brady and I think Kevin O'Boyle had maybe 3 men who he was marking taken off so would give him a higher mark.

In second half Niblock, who played well to be fair to him, hit a bad ball to McGourty which McGourty's man chased down. Instead of chasing the ball down and hassling his man McGourty turned round and started shouting at Niblock. This guy is what - 28 years old? Will he ever grow up? It's ridiculous.

Also I thought Dougan was good when he got the ball. Not much played in though. Basically Kildare had a sweeper who was blocking the FF lines runs. Nothing was done to combat that - someone should have been pushed up on him.

Easy to see why he got frustrated though. It was the easiest pass to give and for some unknown reason Niblock humped the fcukin thing a mile over his head.

HS that behaviour was ridiculous - easy pass or not.

The boy can play football and no-one doubts that but that kind of attitude stinks.

It wasn't like Niblock wasn't doing well.

Anyway, glad to see Mick McCann playing as he was very good when he came on.

We seriously need to improve under breaking ball as the stats from yesterday would make grim reading. Kelly is probably the best in the county at reading breaking ball - unfortunate really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2011, 11:00:09 AM
HS we played far from ok and we know that.

You have to take some positives from it.

Kildare are far too physically strong for us hence the loss of ball. Our movement and how slow we moved the ball were poor. We don't have a defense capable of living with decent teams either.

Kevin O'Boyle, Tony Scullion, Mick McCann, Niblock and Cunningham di d ok though. There is no point in assessing something as being sh*te and that it is it.

The FF line ball winning was because Kildare had 3 men on 2. Evade 1 man and you're against the other. That is a key point I'm making - we have to combat sweepers. Cunningham too small to win against 2 men. You play a system to beat that.

Of 18 odd players about 4 or 5 played reasonable.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 07, 2011, 12:28:43 PM
hardstation it was a terrible display 1-17 with a sweeper system is dire, but you must try and take positives out of it. some of the boys played well, some were abysmal as stated. when is the next game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Trout on February 07, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 07, 2011, 10:16:16 AM
it was a disgrace his behaviour, kicking the post. We definatley need him, hes our best player on his day but he just doesnt have enough of them days.

How many of these "days" has there been for Antrim? You hear this said about him now and again but the performances certainly haven't matched the talk or hype.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 07, 2011, 07:31:04 PM
Awful.

Kick outs awful.

Not strong enough to compete in most parts of field. Won first kick out but TON took too long on ball and we were turned over--thus setting the tone.

KMcG got yellow hard within 20 secs for screaming like a child at the ref after being outmuscled to a ball by his man who broke the ball away. He went on to kick the post like a child (to roars of laughter by the Kildare fans around me) --to be fair Scullion should have kicked him the ball first but he passed left to Niblock who couldnt get it to KMcG. He was doing the David Beckham thing having to hit every free kick.  Moaning to others and shouting at the manager and not tracking back, just leaving his man if the ball isn't given to him perfectly is beyond boring now. Was cringeworthy watching some of those antics.

JC never touchedd the ball. Big lad at FF Rob Kelly was too big for our full back line who simply couldnt deal with him (although he didnt score).
Dean O'Neill won a free for a score at the start but chased his man and never touched leather after.

Tony Scullio at least has the power to compete.
Herron competes but was poor.
AG broke a few and caught one early on but got turned over too often and wasnt good.
TON running straight back to sweep leaves us seriously short up front.

Sweeney got on a few breaks but did little else. Niblock is a great ball winner and was getting a hard time of it but still winnin ball --needs to play at 11
Dougan hardly touched ball but scored 1 good point

PC did all he could do and scored 1 good point from play.

Anto Healy is a great relaxed player who looked at ease when came on and is a must start.

Mick McCann caught 2 good balls when came on.

Loughrey and Tomas McCann are irreplaceable --we have no line breakers bar Niblock on the team at present--noone else with the power and speed to be able to break a tackle and leave a man for dead.


Depressing start and can see nothing but a grim season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 08, 2011, 10:12:46 AM
couldnt agree more guys, kevin has the talent and potential to be absolutley brilliant and has done since he has been on the scene, but his behaviour was a disgrace. if memory serves me right in an interview last year baker described kevin niblock at that time "the best number 11" in ireland. yet he went and played him corner forward? Gold your spot on regarding A.healy, hes calm on the ball and a great kick passer he has to start. Crozier did nothing defensively or attacking. We cant carry people, we need to get the best team out and get a win against laois. Laois game is a must win. I think we need to scrap the sweeper system also as we have conceded 2-14 and 1-17 in the last two games. some players need a swift kick up the hole.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 08, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 07, 2011, 10:40:49 AM
You lads make it sound like we played ok yesterday. I thought we were complete horseshit all over the pitch. Far too loose at the back. When our backs had the ball, none of them wanted to get it up the pitch. Constantly f**king about with it and the passing/handling errors were atrocious. Midfield and half forwards constantly losing the ball due to running it into trouble. Full forward line offered very little in terms of ball winning. The difference in physical strength was massive.

It was a very poor performance.

I could not agree more Hardstation.  That boyo Kevin mcGourty, a complete and utter waster/mouthpiece! I would ditch him and that boyo T. O'Neill as well.  I read his article in the IN this morning, he seems to think he is some sort of authority on Antrim Football.  Those two boyos IMO, I would bypass and select  a few other lads who will give their all, stop hiding and more importanly, keep their traps shut!   A case of like 'father like son' on both counts!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 08, 2011, 03:46:02 PM
múinteoirmór elaborate regarding o neill? Mc Gourty yes. O neill No.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 08, 2011, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 08, 2011, 03:46:02 PM
múinteoirmór elaborate regarding o neill? Mc Gourty yes. O neill No.
Takes too much out of the ball, moves forward, then moves back twice the distance.  Does not release the ball at the right time, makes some dreadful passes!   Does not have the will or the physicality to mix it with the big boys!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 08, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
Have you read this thread at all? Numerous times it has been stated that o neill doesnt look happy being dropped back into the half back line as an extra man. his better work is done in the forward line and he has always give his all for antrim, instrumental on getting antrim to the ulster final few years back. Your part regarding the irish news article and his father?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 09, 2011, 11:22:52 AM
Anyone know when the club league and championship fixtures are published?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 09, 2011, 02:20:51 PM
Simon Says - the county website guestbook says this:

Name : antrim gael03 February 2011

Do you know when next county committee meeting is? as draws will take place then? and i have asked my club secretary and he does not know!

Well, all club secretaries were provided with a meeting schedule! Next meeting is scheduled for 14th of Feb and championship draws on 28th Feb.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 09, 2011, 02:41:07 PM
cheers glensman. be interesting to see the championship draws.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on February 11, 2011, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 08, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
I could not agree more Hardstation.  That boyo Kevin mcGourty, a complete and utter waster/mouthpiece! I would ditch him and that boyo T. O'Neill as well.  I read his article in the IN this morning, he seems to think he is some sort of authority on Antrim Football.  Those two boyos IMO, I would bypass and select  a few other lads who will give their all, stop hiding and more importanly, keep their traps shut!   A case of like 'father like son' on both counts!

Am a bit confused about your comments on Terry O'Neill.  I have played against O'Neill several times and and have seen many of the Antrim games including the Kildare game.  His work rate is immense and has always been very much a team player, would never class him as someone that hides and doesn't give it his all as you seem to suggest.   With regards to being mouthy  ???  Think he is prob one of the least mouthy players I have played against.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2011, 11:10:48 AM
Interesting topic for someone to make their first post on, esp coming from Down.

Not getting into a debate about personality.

IMO he is not the type of player that is needed for the role that he is playing. IMO you need someone who can tackle is big and strong as a last line of defence, who has pace can cover the ground. This is esp important when breaking out from the back more often than not this is the person ending up on the ball andif they are slow and ponderous in possession then that will slow down any attack.

Thats how I see it anyway, he is great on the ball good brain but doesnt bring any of the other attributes to it. Being in used in the wrong place I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on February 11, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Prob would seem a bit strange posting on Antrim thread lol Am from Down but live in Belfast so tend to follow Antrim football quite a bit.  The choice of topic was merely that it was a recent post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 16, 2011, 08:49:54 AM
What way are we looking for sunday against laois?

Are the club fixtures released yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 16, 2011, 08:49:54 AM
What way are we looking for sunday against laois?

Are the club fixtures released yet?

We are looking south in this case! ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 22, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
Having travelled to Portlaoise on sunday, i left the ground dejected. As i cant believe how well we played and outplayed laois and came away with nothing. Too many wides and silly mistakes.

Anyone else at the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Big Puff on February 22, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 22, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
Having travelled to Portlaoise on sunday, i left the ground dejected. As i cant believe how well we played and outplayed laois and came away with nothing. Too many wides and silly mistakes.

Anyone else at the game?

Yeah, think there was a few thousand at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
Wasn't at it simon. Any comments on who played well / who didn't individually?

How'd we go at midfield - better than last time?

I only saw a brief report but saw Murray scored in first half - did he start? Did the team start as selected?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 22, 2011, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
Wasn't at it simon. Any comments on who played well / who didn't individually?

How'd we go at midfield - better than last time?

I only saw a brief report but saw Murray scored in first half - did he start? Did the team start as selected?

Neither was I. None.

McGourty and Burke started at midfield, don't know.

Yes. No.

Rumours that a recently transferred player may not be legal after all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 23, 2011, 09:40:38 AM
c.kerr- Varied kickouts well, two fantastic saves in the second half. 7

k o boyle- had a great game, tackled well and done well on tierney unlucky for goal.8

A.mc lean- Went of early injured.

Justin crozier- too loose as a man marker.5

T.Scullion- Powerful runner with the ball, seems to lack in confidence in front of goal. poor distribution.6

A healey- solid performance, he is a must start at centre half back, good reader of the game. 7

T O neill- Put in a good shift at wing back, cancelled his man out and played some great ball to forward line 6.5

K Mc Gourty- On the ball alot in first half, competed well in midfield with burke. some wayward shooting. but worked well. 6.5

S.burke-Got through a mountain of work, he is a defensive minded midfielder who knows his limits. 7

C.Murray- scored a good point but give the ball away too many times.6

K.brady- rolled back the years with 2 outstanding points, good ball winner, 7.5

M.sweeney- Didnt do much at all, give the ball away too many times under no pressure. 5

Paddy cunningham- scored some good frees, but kicked some poor ones also. 5

K.niblock- Won a mountain of ball, very unselfish,Still believe his best position is chf.6.5

B.Herron. Seemed to play further out the field, again like many others give the ball away too many times. 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
Cheers Simon.

Interesting to see the positioning of Herron / Crozier. Both would be wasted in those positions IMO.

O'Boyle was excellent in the Kildare game too I thought when all round him wilted.

Healy looks like a must start. Crozier maybe LHB if that happens.

Good to see a few new guys getting gametime too as that will help.

We need a win soon though. Wouldn't be good for confidence going into c'ship the way we are currently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 23, 2011, 05:52:29 PM
Anyone looking a friendly next saturday evening 5th March 2010 please pm me.  We are a 2nd division team in armagh and looking to get a game next saturday night.  We would have to travel to you as pitch currently under construction.  Cheers Charlie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 25, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
The Antrim team to play V Meath on Saturday night in the Allianz Div 2, round 3 game.

1.SEAN O' NEILL

2.ANTO HEALY
3.ANDY MC CLEAN
4.KEVIN O' BOYLE

5.TONY SCULLION
6.JUSTIN CROZIER
7.TERRY O' NEILL

8.KEVIN MC GOURTY
9.SEAN BURKE

10.AODHAN GALLAGHER
11.KEVIN BRADY
12.DEAN O' NEILL

13.PADDY CUNNINGHAM
14.KEVIN NIBLOCK
15.BRENDAN HERRON

16.CHRIS KERR
17.COLIN BRADY
18.AARON DOUGLAS
19.RICHARD JOHNSTON
20.CONOR MURRAY
21.MARK DOUGAN
22.MARK SWEENEY
23.C.J. MC GOURTY
24.TOMAS MC CANN
25.EAMONN MC NEILL
26.COLM FLEMING
27.MARK MC ALEESE


By all reports struggling with injuries for tomorrow nights game. Could be a few late changes.

Meath to win by 3+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
Fantastic two points gained last night. Full of guts and passion - this gives us a real chance of staying in this tough division.

Long time since we beat Meath in a league game - I remember we beat them in 1991 (I think). Big Teddy Mc Keown had the game of his life in midfield!

Credit due to all - last night removes any doubts that we can compete at this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 28, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
SFC Draw

R1
St. Pauls v Creggan
Rasharkin v Cargin


1/4-Final
a St Galls v  Moneyglass
b St Pauls/Creggan v Ahoghill
c Lamh Dhearg v Rasharkin/Cargin
d St. Brigids v St. Johns

Semi-Final
c v b
a v d

St Galls v Cargin final again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 10:07:18 PM
I'd say Lamhs will give Cargin all they want, Creggan will be difficult enough for us.

Not plain sailing. hard for our lads to keep going, year in year out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on March 01, 2011, 08:54:35 AM
Glad to see St Pauls, Moneyglass and Rasharkin shouldn't turn up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 01, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
i fancy lamb dhearg for it. with some great minor players to add this year. cargin will struggle without michael mc cann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on March 01, 2011, 10:01:22 AM

Intermediate/Junior draws?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2011, 10:46:01 AM
Course they should turn up Pat. My view is based on past form
Title: 2011 C'ship Draws
Post by: aontroim on March 01, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/uploads/documents/2011%20Antrim%20C,ship%20draws%20-PDF.pdf - full county draws just been posted.

JFC

R1

1 Pearses v Antrim
2 McD's v O'D's

1/4F

A B'castle v  Mitchells
B Aggies v 1
C Eire Og v Lisburn
D 2 v St. Mal's

Semi-Finals

D v A
C v B

IFC

R1

1 St Teresas v St Endas
2 All Saints v Glenavy
3 Glenravel v Sarsfields
4 Portglenone v Gort Na Mona
5 Aldergrove v Ardoyne
6 Rossa v Tir Na Nog
7 Dunloy v Aghagallon

1/4-Finals

A 1 v 2
B 6 v Davitts
C 4 v 3
D 7 v 5

Semi-Finals

C v B
D v A
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 03, 2011, 10:43:02 AM
Any Predictions for the club championships?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2011, 11:47:53 AM
Senior: St Galls
Intermediate: Portglenone
Junior: The Aggies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 03, 2011, 01:36:52 PM
Yeah think St Galls and Portglenone are strong favourites for senior and intermediate. What happened to Gort Na Mona?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2011, 02:36:24 PM
Good question.

Losing Pollock I'm sure hasn't helped but they won U21s etc in the not too distant past. Since then you'd have expected them to move upwards but it seems they have moved downwards.

Maybe it's the strains of a dual club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 03, 2011, 03:09:25 PM
Agreed the loss of pollock has probably been a factor in the fact no-one can score for them. I dont think he has added much to st galls though, and has minimized his chances of being called up for the county, given the talent on show at st galls in their forward line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 04, 2011, 05:17:30 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 03, 2011, 01:36:52 PM
Yeah think St Galls and Portglenone are strong favourites for senior and intermediate. What happened to Gort Na Mona?

Gort Na Mona have got themselves a new manager. Liam McGoldrick who worked under PJ and Jody with the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 09, 2011, 05:10:37 PM
Did he used to manage St Theresa's ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
He did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 10, 2011, 08:57:16 AM
saturday night is on the horizon. any predictions folks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 13, 2011, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 10, 2011, 08:57:16 AM
saturday night is on the horizon. any predictions folks?
I predict 1-16 Tyrone to 1.11 Antrim and the game will be played on Sunday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on March 14, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 15, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 14, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
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Does wit and intelligence annoy you????   ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on March 15, 2011, 09:29:10 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 15, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 14, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
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Does wit and intelligence annoy you????   ;D

Nope and neither does replies like your one which was neither witty nor intelligent - sorry.  Sad thing to laugh at your own attempts at humour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 16, 2011, 08:28:41 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 15, 2011, 09:29:10 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 15, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 14, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
Lead balloon
Does wit and intelligence annoy you????   ;D

Nope and neither does replies like your one which was neither witty nor intelligent - sorry.  Sad thing to laugh at your own attempts at humour.
You should lighten up a little and try to get out more!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on March 20, 2011, 05:34:02 PM
Was anyone at the game today?

I know there are a lot of injuries but I am seriously starting to question Bradleys ability to manage a team.  Fair enough the players did not perform to their ability but when the manager is playing you out of position its very difficult to perform.  Think the majority of the players found themselves in this position today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on March 20, 2011, 07:29:58 PM
Sometimes that's county, many's a time a lad would have to play out of his normal comfort zone but sure if he's the standard he should be able. There were some spells in the game where we looked well capable of taking Sligo then we stopped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2011, 09:24:08 PM
Dunno where to start.

We do well in patches but give away scores much too easily. Whilst we have possession for ages without a score it seemed Sligo could just kick 2 balls forward then someone would just swing a score over--end to end in 4 seconds.

Small crowd and no fight/tempo other than the period when we came back to within 3 (17 to 14). But we then got a free against Johnston for picking the ball off the ground (when we shouldv'e got a free as he was rugby tackled first) and then we stopped and conceded the last 7 scores

Shit crowd there, no atmosphere, a dead county support
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
The supporters won't the game, they can give vocal support but that's about it, wasn't much at the Hurling last week also.

Losing to Sligo has put us back in Div 3. can't blame Supporters/atmosphere for this defeat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2011, 09:46:35 PM
I'm not blameing the supporters (or lack thereof) for the defeat.

Just stating that we're one of the worst supported counties. For all the clubs we have we cant get supporters to go to games. There's barely a whimper from our crowd when our team runs out at beginning of games and at half time--it's been that way for as long as i can remember (bar a few recent champ games when we actually have a bit of support)

As for the game--we dont hit teams--again as far as i remember antrim teams are never physical--suppose that continues from the antrim leagues where so called hard men/teams will hit you a dig in the mouth/ ribs (probably from behind) and slabber all day but rarely if ever 'hit' properly ie bury a man with the shoulder.

Sligo just walked through us upteem times straight through the middle--we'd no imposing men at 6 or wherever who took the initiative to go out and meet a man and bury him.

We've no leaders, look around and the amount of heads down is shocking. The only one i heard shouting come on lads all day was the keeper. Granted shoutin come on lads wont make you a great team but it's clear The team's crying out for leaders to bring them on and unite them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2011, 09:57:02 PM
Gold I would unfortunately agree with you here. Antrim have never been physical enough and we don't seem to play like that even from underage through. University football is much tougher than antrim club football and a lack of mcrory never helped in that regard.

It was blatantly obvious against Kildare that physically we come up quite a bit short. The spine to our team needs worked on. CHB is a big worry for me. We don't have anyone to fill it. FB is a bit better but not much.

Leaders is also a problem. Leaders are not men who turn and bitch at people when they hit bad passes. They are men who lead by example. They are lacking at present. Loughrey going at people was how to show leadership. I also thought Kelly's game was very influential and is badly missed.

Wwhere we go from here is hard to say. Donegal are going very well and will be a tough nut to crack. How we handle Michael Murphy is anyones guess - it doesn't seem like anyone in the country can. At the minute hard to be positive but then I guess we were like this the other year before we got to the ulster final...

On the plus side we have a good few to come back yet and it can only get better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2011, 09:59:42 PM
You're right Gold regarding the tackling and lack of leaders, McCann is a big miss McGourty also up front, injuries in the backline not helping. Be a wee bit positive. Like i said and things will work out come Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on March 20, 2011, 11:31:17 PM
I agree with you about the physicality of our players but we still have players that can run well and are comfortable on the ball, its just a pity that tonight our midfield felt the need to continuously supply our forward line with high balls in when they clearly weren't strong enough to win anything.  More a tactical mistake than a lack of strength
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on March 20, 2011, 11:48:40 PM
Was hoping both of us would stay up, was disappointed with atmosphere and support from both counties tbh, we should be relishing div2 as fans but it was flat today, I wont comment on Sligo performance besides saying we have alot of injuries too, but i dont know where to rank us after today because i thought ye were poor especially in defence and midfield, happy with the win though. Ye are by far the soundest fans in Ulster from my experience and i wish ye well in the Ulster championship in the summer. Lastly for a Ulster ref thought Sludden was kind to us today but we got some rough justice last few games so i say it evens itself out hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 08:52:06 AM
Looks like the possible demise of the idiot Bradley (Baker).   Looks like also, we re a hurling county again!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2011, 09:47:05 AM
No need to get personal by running down the management. At least Bradley offered something positive during his reign (which is clearly over for all to see) - as opposed to one recent manager who was a complete untried, untested unknown quantity at this level - and his results bore this out!

And I dont blame Jody for that, I blame the men in their ivory tower wisdom who appointed him.

Yesterday as bad as it has been for a long time, and supporters who are not stupid are voting with their feet.

Third year syndrome raising its ugly head, players sick of hearing the same voice, cracks appearing all over the place, a few things swept under the carpet - it looks all downhill from here. This management group dont need to be told this, they will know already.

Also no need for anyone here to put the boot in. All in all they took us on a good bit - so a bit of quiet respect for the last month or two would be prudent. Then time for a new group to see if they can lift things all over again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2011, 09:47:05 AM
No need to get personal by running down the management. At least Bradley offered something positive during his reign (which is clearly over for all to see) - as opposed to one recent manager who was a complete untried, untested unknown quantity at this level - and his results bore this out!

And I dont blame Jody for that, I blame the men in their ivory tower wisdom who appointed him.

Yesterday as bad as it has been for a long time, and supporters who are not stupid are voting with their feet.

Third year syndrome raising its ugly head, players sick of hearing the same voice, cracks appearing all over the place, a few things swept under the carpet - it looks all downhill from here. This management group dont need to be told this, they will know already.

Also no need for anyone here to put the boot in. All in all they took us on a good bit - so a bit of quiet respect for the last month or two would be prudent. Then time for a new group to see if they can lift things all over again.

Here Here!

I hate this 'we're a hurling county / we're a football county' shite.  We are a county and we promote the two main codes of the GAA equally as well as handball, Camogie and Ladies football.  (Sorry rounders)  These type of people are generally the cause of splits in clubs between the hurling and the football men.  What is that all about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2011, 10:58:10 AM
I would concur Bannside. Irrespective of what transpires from now on to the end of Baker's reign (whenever that may be) he has got us playing with a  bit of belief. It's been many years since we have had that. We got to an ulster final by wininng as many ulster matches in 1 year as we had in about the last 28 years. For that he has to be commended.

We also have to remember that when he took over we were in division 4 - we are now 2 divisions up and there are quite a few teams in this division who are better than quite a few in division 1 as well.

Season's not over yet though...

MM you're adding about as much value to this thread as you are to the hurling thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2011, 10:58:10 AM
I would concur Bannside. Irrespective of what transpires from now on to the end of Baker's reign (whenever that may be) he has got us playing with a  bit of belief. It's been many years since we have had that. We got to an ulster final by wininng as many ulster matches in 1 year as we had in about the last 28 years. For that he has to be commended.

We also have to remember that when he took over we were in division 4 - we are now 2 divisions up and there are quite a few teams in this division who are better than quite a few in division 1 as well.

Season's not over yet though...

MM you're adding about as much value to this thread as you are to the hurling thread.
And your adding a lot of positives are you?  I dont think so my son!  I tell it as it is, footbal in this county is no further on than it was say 6 years ago.   A little spurt in the Ulster championship, and we think we are going places.  We have not beaten Sligo in 4 attempts in recent years. I think we should look at getting over that obstacle first with a game plan to beat Sligo.  I dont think there has ever been a game plan or that eh current incimbents are capable of coming up with one. Same errors, same mistakes, same crap!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2011, 09:47:05 AM
No need to get personal by running down the management. At least Bradley offered something positive during his reign (which is clearly over for all to see) - as opposed to one recent manager who was a complete untried, untested unknown quantity at this level - and his results bore this out!

And I dont blame Jody for that, I blame the men in their ivory tower wisdom who appointed him.

Yesterday as bad as it has been for a long time, and supporters who are not stupid are voting with their feet.

Third year syndrome raising its ugly head, players sick of hearing the same voice, cracks appearing all over the place, a few things swept under the carpet - it looks all downhill from here. This management group dont need to be told this, they will know already.

Also no need for anyone here to put the boot in. All in all they took us on a good bit - so a bit of quiet respect for the last month or two would be prudent. Then time for a new group to see if they can lift things all over again.
Are you not getting personal? Jody!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2011, 04:24:45 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2011, 10:58:10 AM
I would concur Bannside. Irrespective of what transpires from now on to the end of Baker's reign (whenever that may be) he has got us playing with a  bit of belief. It's been many years since we have had that. We got to an ulster final by wininng as many ulster matches in 1 year as we had in about the last 28 years. For that he has to be commended.

We also have to remember that when he took over we were in division 4 - we are now 2 divisions up and there are quite a few teams in this division who are better than quite a few in division 1 as well.

Season's not over yet though...

MM you're adding about as much value to this thread as you are to the hurling thread.
And your adding a lot of positives are you?  I dont think so my son!  I tell it as it is, footbal in this county is no further on than it was say 6 years ago.   A little spurt in the Ulster championship, and we think we are going places.  We have not beaten Sligo in 4 attempts in recent years. I think we should look at getting over that obstacle first with a game plan to beat Sligo.  I dont think there has ever been a game plan or that eh current incimbents are capable of coming up with one. Same errors, same mistakes, same crap!

What division were we in 6 years ago?

Sligo were one of the teams of the summer last year. They are excellent team. We have beaten Sligo twice in the last 5 attempts. We beat them in the non-playoff  league matches 2009 and 2010.

You called Baker an "idiot". Slightly more personal than anything posted by anyone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2011, 04:47:53 PM
Not personal at all re Jody. Should have been brought in at a lower level, ie minor or u-21 to get a chance to see what he could do. A good guy, did his best, but purely and simply a punt by the new county management of the time - who lets be totally honest - had absolutely no idea that our senior footballers had a few levels of improvement in them. As I said, untried and untested at this level. A failed punt.

You only have to dig out a few choice quotes from JMS at the time. "Lets be honest Antrim wont be winning any Ulster championships any time soon" or words to that effect. In the archives somewhere. Hadnt the first clue about the talent coming through in the county at the time. Please dont get me started!

Baker/Niall/Paddy all well around the block, lots of experience working with elite players, esp at club level. Do a shift of five or ten years in Derry club football and you`ll get my drift. Not knocking them - football men to the core. Because of that they know the crack. Hard to balance taking a county side with club management also, and personally I think that a county job warrants full and total concentration.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on March 21, 2011, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 08:52:06 AM
Looks like the possible demise of the idiot Bradley (Baker).   Looks like also, we re a hurling county again!!!!

I take it the fact that there is another thread where lads are disowning being you, should lead me and most people to consider you nothing but a WUM.  A WUM worthy of nothing but the silent treatment, but i'll indulge you and give you a response.

Baker Bradley has been the best thing that has happened Antrim football for a very long long time.

He took the job when no one else would touch it with a barge pole. And achieved a minor miracle by instilling confidence and self belief into a team that had next to none.

Antrim's achievements under Baker speaks for itself:

- Back to back promotions bringing Antrim from Division 4 to Division 2.
- Getting to the Ulster final in 2009 and going out of that same All Ireland in the qualifiers to the eventual winners, Kerry.
- 2010 were unfortunate to get the two toughest draws they possibly could have got when they met Tyrone in Ulster (eventual Ulster champs) and got Kildare (eventual All Ireland semi-finalists) in the first round of the qualifiers.
- Getting Kevin McGourty back in the Antrim fold

They are now in a Division that has nothing but quality opposition and staying up this year was always going to be tough but with the absence of a number of key players Mick McCann, James Loughrey, Sean Kelly and CJ they were always going to struggle as would any county without those sort of players.

No doubt this year's championship is going to be tough, Antrim would do very well to get past Donegal but there is no reason why they can't have a decent run in the back door.

I don't think after one league campaign where things haven't gone to plan, under difficult circumstances, that people should forget how much Antrim have developed under Baker.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2011, 09:51:23 PM
Agree with a lot of that AF. Locky, Kel, Mick all huge losses, and to be fair Baker has`nt tried to play the sympathy card.

I think getting out of div four was almost guaranteed with the quality of the younger players coming through and the all ireland club champs in our midst. But getting out of div 3 was a creditable achievement.

Since then a real mixed bag. We didnt really turn up against Tyrone or the replay against Kildare, nor even against Sligo in the play off. To me that was three clear stinkers out of four important games from April onwards last year - and this year shaping up like another mixed bag!

Credit where its due, but an awful lot of inconsistency in there, which has been a trait of Antrim teams for a very long time. Wouldnt totally rule out a result at home against Derry which might change the whole picture. But I worry that we are flat out for survival in this division that our battery will run flat again, just like last year. Time will tell, but worrying clouds starting to gather.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 21, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
I spoke of lack of leaders yesterday--but there is no doubt Baker is a great leader

To take us as far as he has in the past few years has been great compared to what had gone before. We've had success in league and championship but it's just a pity we've levelled off/gone back--due in no small part to the loss of Locky and McCann and the lack of at least one other scoring forward


On another note--when we were winning well in the league last yr we'd no St Galls boys playin --we had footballers who weren't flashy but just got the job done and a good 'team.' When the Galls boys (although admitedly they are nearly all more talented than the rest) came back things were upset during the last few league games and on into championship last yr. They havnt really got it together since other than in flashes.

Think Mick's power, scores and good use of ball is badly missed but Loughrey's pace and power not there is fatal. He would put forwards and defenders (depending on where he played) on the back foot  and made so many scores. Pace is leathal as we saw with Tomas yesterday--not many players can break past a man and stay past him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:32:08 PM
While i don't think we will stay up in division 2 or beat Donegal, let's not have him retired/sacked just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2011, 10:38:30 PM
Gold, cue my response.

I think blaming the Galls lads for our drop (last year) in form is silly, possibly it would have something to do with management and their decision on playing them. Sean Kelly is not flashy and can out pace the McCanns, Colm Brady is not a flashy player also.

I pointed out also last year that a certain player made remarks about the Galls lads coming back into the panel, it showed up the division between the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Yeah I don't think we can blame Galls players for drop in form. It did seem to coincide with things but I think it's like MR says - it was probably more management. A few boys (O'Hagan / Magill and possibly more) never seemed to be around after they came back - they were thrown in too quick and it seemed to peeve a few boys off.

There are divides in every county panel MR - don't think it is playing a part here. Cargin and Galls seem to hate each other but you could pick 2 clubs in near every county who are the same.

Kelly wouldn't outstrip McCanns for pace. Kelly always one step ahead in reading the game which probably made him look quicker than he actually was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on March 22, 2011, 09:42:11 AM
Also don't agree with blaming the st galls players, they were brought back early by Bradley after Antrim already suffered a league defeat even tho he had stated in the paper that they could have a break.  Think this was the first in a run of mistakes on his behalf. 

I believe bannside described part of the issue as "Third year syndrome ..."  tho personally I think this started well before this season.  Bradley continuously pushing tactics that haven't been working well since his first years success (sweeper, long balls in to the forward line etc) are taking their toll on the team. 

I wouldn't take away from him what he did for antrim football especially in the first year but think it was more the momentum from then that carried them into division 2 and that momentum now seems to have worn off.  The start of this season may have been the right time for a change in management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2011, 04:19:38 PM
What are the general opinions on club football in antrim?

My view is that while our county team is performing much better than it has in years our club football is at a lower standard than it has been in years.

(This is nothing to do with county team either however it obviously impacts what we can pick)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 22, 2011, 04:32:41 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on March 21, 2011, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 08:52:06 AM
Looks like the possible demise of the idiot Bradley (Baker).   Looks like also, we re a hurling county again!!!!

I take it the fact that there is another thread where lads are disowning being you, should lead me and most people to consider you nothing but a WUM.  A WUM worthy of nothing but the silent treatment, but i'll indulge you and give you a response.

Baker Bradley has been the best thing that has happened Antrim football for a very long long time.

He took the job when no one else would touch it with a barge pole. And achieved a minor miracle by instilling confidence and self belief into a team that had next to none.

Antrim's achievements under Baker speaks for itself:

- Back to back promotions bringing Antrim from Division 4 to Division 2.
- Getting to the Ulster final in 2009 and going out of that same All Ireland in the qualifiers to the eventual winners, Kerry.
- 2010 were unfortunate to get the two toughest draws they possibly could have got when they met Tyrone in Ulster (eventual Ulster champs) and got Kildare (eventual All Ireland semi-finalists) in the first round of the qualifiers.
- Getting Kevin McGourty back in the Antrim fold

They are now in a Division that has nothing but quality opposition and staying up this year was always going to be tough but with the absence of a number of key players Mick McCann, James Loughrey, Sean Kelly and CJ they were always going to struggle as would any county without those sort of players.

No doubt this year's championship is going to be tough, Antrim would do very well to get past Donegal but there is no reason why they can't have a decent run in the back door.

I don't think after one league campaign where things haven't gone to plan, under difficult circumstances, that people should forget how much Antrim have developed under Baker.
Ah but, have we improved, have we won anything, are we winnign games that should have been won, Answer = No.  Kevin McGourty, a waste of time, has brought nothing to the party and is so full of himself.  Will baker choose to stay or will he be pushed, mark my words, lest just wait and see!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
So explain how in 6 years we have not improved? What's your benchmark from 6 years ago we haven't got passed?

What games should we have won that we haven't won? (A game that we should win is not one where you say - ah it's Sligo sure they're not great and we can beat them. They beat us by 10 points)

Why are you bringing Kevin McGourty into it?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:06:13 PM
Because he is a c**k and is seeking notoriety!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
We beat Donegal at Ballybofey.  Great performance v Kerry.  We've been promoted 2 years in a row - of course we have improved. 

We should ignore this idiot from here on in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on March 22, 2011, 10:53:32 PM
Whats wrong with Michael McCann?

Is he out with a long term injury?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 22, 2011, 11:38:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2011, 04:19:38 PM
What are the general opinions on club football in antrim?

My view is that while our county team is performing much better than it has in years our club football is at a lower standard than it has been in years.

(This is nothing to do with county team either however it obviously impacts what we can pick)

+1

The panel at present is not strong enough to compete in this league. What players are having to compete for positions? What options do we have on the bench?
There are boys there who will never get on nevermind come on and influence a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
We beat Donegal at Ballybofey.  Great performance v Kerry.  We've been promoted 2 years in a row - of course we have improved. 

We should ignore this idiot from here on in
NOW YOU ARE GETTING PERSONAL AGAIN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: madmike on March 23, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2011, 10:38:30 PM
Gold, cue my response.

I think blaming the Galls lads for our drop (last year) in form is silly, possibly it would have something to do with management and their decision on playing them. Sean Kelly is not flashy and can out pace the McCanns, Colm Brady is not a flashy player also.

I pointed out also last year that a certain player made remarks about the Galls lads coming back into the panel, it showed up the division between the players.

Sean Kelly is a brilliant player for st galls, but he doesnt have the same bite at county level.kelly wouldnt out pace the mccanns, no where near tomas's pace, hes only back from injury and he still out paced half the sligo team for his goal and had men all over him. michael mccann is a huge miss for the county. colm brady has done it for st galls and county, good pace also and great maker, he doesnt need to be flashy. Cj is out which would of been a help to the team also.

but i think baker needs to be given a break, hes had half a team out for nearly the whole league. Cj, C Brady, Andy McC, M mccann, t mccann, kevin oboyle, justin crozier, a douglas thats only the ones on the top of my head. but my point is thats a large number missing out of a 25 man panel. its bound to be hard to pick a team out of that every week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 23, 2011, 10:14:45 PM
I wasnt blaiming St Galls men --was just stating that we havnt won many games since their return after they're all ireland. I wasnt saying they were flashy--was just saying the players on county team in 2010 before their return were not flashy.

There wa no doubt that it would be difficult to bring them back into a winning team at that stage. If ArmAGH were winning every week it would be difficult to bring 5 Cross men into the team without upsetting the rhythem and balance of the team.

In saying that though the St Galls men were great in 09 for the County and on Sunday past Brady was very good and Aidso and McGourty were good in spells. Kelly is awesome and we could do with him back.

It just doesnt seem like their is a team gameplan or maybe atmosphere. As stated previously no one was roaring each other on out there the other day. Whether thatss due to the management or the team i dont know but we have hit a plateau but shear will to win and togetherness could pull us through it.

Also Magill is a massive loss--everything kicked his way at start of 10 stuck --he hasnt been replaced --we look rudderless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Centre Half makes a point that our bench is very limited at senior level. Have to say I totally agree. We lose three or four players and all of a sudden we are rudderless or leaderless.

Why is this such a big surprise to everyone? When is the last time we won a minor or under 21 c`ship match?

I have said many times that to be sustainable at the highest level we need much better quality, focus and ambition from development squad and upwards. This has been sorely missing during the JMS years - to the extent I am genuinely petrified about our short and medium term at senior level.

Baker and Co lost their third consecutive u-21 c`ship match last week to a team that was hammered last night in the next round.The team that beat us didnt score from play until the 59th minute. Is anyone else picking up on this level of detail? This is the reality.

Jody didnt give a toss about u-21, and Baker made absolutely no impression in this sector either in three years.

We must be the only county in Ireland where some of our management team have three teams on the go at one time - a club management job, county under twenty-one, and inter county senior level.

Or maybe our senior county officers werent aware of this? Jesus wept! Sometimes we get what we deserve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 24, 2011, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 24, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Centre Half makes a point that our bench is very limited at senior level. Have to say I totally agree. We lose three or four players and all of a sudden we are rudderless or leaderless.

Why is this such a big surprise to everyone? When is the last time we won a minor or under 21 c`ship match?

I have said many times that to be sustainable at the highest level we need much better quality, focus and ambition from development squad and upwards. This has been sorely missing during the JMS years - to the extent I am genuinely petrified about our short and medium term at senior level.

Baker and Co lost their third consecutive u-21 c`ship match last week to a team that was hammered last night in the next round.The team that beat us didnt score from play until the 59th minute. Is anyone else picking up on this level of detail? This is the reality.

Jody didnt give a toss about u-21, and Baker made absolutely no impression in this sector either in three years.

We must be the only county in Ireland where some of our management team have three teams on the go at one time - a club management job, county under twenty-one, and inter county senior level.

Or maybe our senior county officers werent aware of this? Jesus wept! Sometimes we get what we deserve.

thought the same when readin the paper today--and we score f all against them in the last round.

No championship win at underage since either minor semi v armagh in 06 or maybe a later victory in u-21 v fermanagh--that may have been 08?

Before that would be v armagh in 03 in u-21

Before that would be the 2 minor sides that reached consecutive ulster finals in 97/98

Poor record
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on March 25, 2011, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 24, 2011, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 24, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Centre Half makes a point that our bench is very limited at senior level. Have to say I totally agree. We lose three or four players and all of a sudden we are rudderless or leaderless.

Why is this such a big surprise to everyone? When is the last time we won a minor or under 21 c`ship match?

I have said many times that to be sustainable at the highest level we need much better quality, focus and ambition from development squad and upwards. This has been sorely missing during the JMS years - to the extent I am genuinely petrified about our short and medium term at senior level.

Baker and Co lost their third consecutive u-21 c`ship match last week to a team that was hammered last night in the next round.The team that beat us didnt score from play until the 59th minute. Is anyone else picking up on this level of detail? This is the reality.

Jody didnt give a toss about u-21, and Baker made absolutely no impression in this sector either in three years.

We must be the only county in Ireland where some of our management team have three teams on the go at one time - a club management job, county under twenty-one, and inter county senior level.

Or maybe our senior county officers werent aware of this? Jesus wept! Sometimes we get what we deserve.

thought the same when readin the paper today--and we score f all against them in the last round.

No championship win at underage since either minor semi v armagh in 06 or maybe a later victory in u-21 v fermanagh--that may have been 08?

Before that would be v armagh in 03 in u-21

Before that would be the 2 minor sides that reached consecutive ulster finals in 97/98

Poor record
We reached a minor final a few years ago. I'd guess 05. Your point is correct though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
Yep, a great win that day alright.

What concerned me afterwards though was the fairly hefty defeat we suffered by Donegal in the final. As far as I can remember Donegal lost very heavily to Meath, who in turn lost the all-ireland final very heavily to Kerry. I know its not an exact science, but still must go down as a useful yardstick or barometer.

From that team who has progressed to senior. Burke, Crozier and CJ - anyone else? Personally I liked the look of O Neill outfield, but thats just me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on March 25, 2011, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2011, 09:25:22 AM
He mentioned the minor semi final win against Armagh in 06.
So he did, my mistake.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
I *think* Conor Murray was on that team too bannside. He seems to be in and around squads without ever making any breakthrough though.

Agreed about underage wins - it's been a long time. I would hope that the Lamh Dhearg and Stmarys wins this year will help.

We hadn't too bad a minor team last year but were drawn against eventual all ireland winners in the first round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2011, 04:50:19 PM
Agree ITG. Some good prospects from last year. A fit Declan Lynch would have made an impact too, but as far as I know he declared himself burned out. Looked ok when introduced late on.

Brendan Bradley also made an impact, and I like the look of him. Smiley Duffin made the team the previous year and would be well rated, but saw no action. Aidan Mc Keown will fill out into a decent player, and clubmate Conor Mc Cann would not commit, but a top prospect. Think he hurled instead. Michael Smyth another who wouldnt go. Yea, a few good prospects from last year - and this years bunch shouldnt be a mile away either.

To be fair they are putting in a lot of effort and a decent set up. Cant fault the effort being put in by both players and management. Tomorrow they play Fermanagh at Casement at 12pm. Maybe get a run up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 28, 2011, 08:42:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
Yep, a great win that day alright.

What concerned me afterwards though was the fairly hefty defeat we suffered by Donegal in the final. As far as I can remember Donegal lost very heavily to Meath, who in turn lost the all-ireland final very heavily to Kerry. I know its not an exact science, but still must go down as a useful yardstick or barometer.

From that team who has progressed to senior. Burke, Crozier and CJ - anyone else? Personally I liked the look of O Neill outfield, but thats just me.

Not just you bannside, Baker as well. Wanted to fire him on against Meath (I think) but there wasn't a spare pair of shorts, allegedly.

Rumours too of dodgy expenses claims in the camp with one high profile member taking the moral highground and touting on others. Hopefully his Predators fit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2011, 08:47:42 PM
In recent years how many County players would you think that playing for the County looks better on their CV than being committed to the cause of bringing Antrim forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 31, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
id say players like loughrey, Sean kelly, kevin o boyle, both bradys and terry o neill. too many in it for themselves. dont know too much about the new boys. hope a few more to add to the list above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on March 31, 2011, 11:09:43 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 31, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
id say players like loughrey, Sean kelly, kevin o boyle, both bradys and terry o neill. too many in it for themselves. dont know too much about the new boys. hope a few more to add to the list above.

Simon, not sure if I am understanding your reply but are you listing loughrey, Sean kelly, kevin o boyle, both bradys and terry o neill as players that are only in it for themselves?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 31, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
No pete, im listing these boys as the guys who strive to bring antrim forward. Why i come to believe why kelly retired as his heart wasnt in it no more, especially if your giving it all and other boys are out on the lash and all about their 0-6 in the irish news every monday morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 31, 2011, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 31, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
No pete, im listing these boys as the guys who strive to bring antrim forward. Why i come to believe why kelly retired as his heart wasnt in it no more, especially if your giving it all and other boys are out on the lash and all about their 0-6 in the irish news every monday morning.

Have you been drinking?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 31, 2011, 01:24:26 PM
yeah just finished off my 15th pint of stout. you nothing to add?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 31, 2011, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 31, 2011, 01:24:26 PM
yeah just finished off my 15th pint of stout. you nothing to add?

Yes, loads, Just as soon as I can figure out exactly what you are trying to say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2011, 03:10:05 PM
For me too many people in recent years seemed to be getting involved because it looks good, bit of attention wrangle a job out of it along the way.

Don't get me wrong, this has happened for years and while the footballers are a million miles further on than teams during the 80's and 90's this trait of playing for the sake of a good CV does more harm to the team than good.

I won't name names for fear of being kicked out of my club ;D but would certainly name the lads who have/had a serious passion/commitment for Antrim over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2011, 05:44:51 PM
I`d say most of the guys are there because they see representing their county as a badge of honour - the way it should be. Maybe the odd exception, but dont underestimate the workload involved in being part of a senior county panel.

It will take over the best years of your young free and single adulthood, so I wouldnt think too many would sacrifice that for the wrong reasons. Would know most of our senior panellists and theres a lot of good honest lads amongst them.

Always get the exception though, but that would be in the minority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on April 01, 2011, 07:24:24 PM
Regarding Kelly and his county performance, I always thought that he was a great club half back, but didn't have the mean streak to be a great county half back. Because of this I would have played him in a different role, give him the frredom of the park and I believe he would have excelled
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on April 01, 2011, 07:57:49 PM
NFL: Antrim team v Donegal

1. SEAN O NEILL    (DAVITTS)

2. COLIN BRADY    (ST. GALLS)
3. RICKY JOHNSTON  (KICKHAMS CREGGAN)
4. AARON DOUGLAS  (ST.JOHNS)

5. TONY SCULLION  (CARGIN)
24. CONOR MURRAY (LAMH DHEARG)
7. ANTO HEALY   (ST.GALLS)

8. AODHAN GALLAGHER  (ST.GALLS)
9. SEAN BURKE  (ST.GALLS)

10. TERRY O NEILL  (ST.GALLS)
11. MARK SWEENEY  (ST. BRIGIDS)
12. MARK MC ALEESE (PORTGLENONE)

13. KEVIN BRADY  (MONEYGLASS)
14. BRENDAN HERON  (LAMH DHEARG)
15. TOMAS MC CANN    (CARGIN)

16. CHRIS KERR   (ST.GALLS)
17. MARK DOUGAN  (KICKHAMS CREGGAN)
18. DARA EDWARDS  (ST. BRIGIDS)
19. COLM FLEMING  (ROSSA)
20. MARTY JOHNSTON  (KICKHAMS CREGGAN)
21. JAMES LAVERTY  (CARGIN)
22. KEVIN MARRON  (MONEYGLASS)
23. ADRIAN MC KEEFRY  (MONEYGLASS)
24. CONOR MURRAY  (LAMH DHEARG)
25. BRIAN NEESON  (ST. JOHNS)
27. PETER OWENS  (ST.GALLS)


Paddy Cunnigham, Justin Crozier, Kevin O'Boyle join the injury list. Kevin McGourty suspended following red card V Sligo.

Murray to play CHB?  :-\

Also see a few new faces added to the already "depleted" squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on April 01, 2011, 08:00:28 PM
Deaglan O'Hagan also brought back into the panel, but broke his thumb at training on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 04, 2011, 01:29:50 PM
Why was paddy cunningham not playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on April 04, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
Think he has a shoulder injury.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 04, 2011, 02:14:19 PM
able to play a charity game though on saturday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on April 04, 2011, 03:08:53 PM
Dont know just read somewhere that he was injured. 

Was interesting to see Antrim playing without him anyway, I dont think his presence was really missed that much. Thomas and Neeson were both on target with their frees. 

Thomas was on form in the first half tho faded out of the game completely in the second,  not sure if this is just a lack of game time as he hasn't played a whole game all season.

Sean Burke had a brilliant game right to the end and O'Neill also played very well up front while also dropping bk to support the defence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2011, 04:13:44 PM
Listen to the game on Highland radio and Martin McHugh thought Anto Healy was Antrim's best player. Listening to the game i sort of got that myself, They played him as a free man in the second half but he won a fair few balls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on April 04, 2011, 10:35:43 PM
Didn't hear the game on the radio but was up at it and wouldn't have said Healy had a great game.  He won a fair few balls but got caught out a number of times either being too slow releasing the ball and or gave the ball away.  Usually a solid enough player but seemed to be having a bit of a nightmare on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 05, 2011, 10:26:16 AM
Pete what game were you watching? healey was outstanding.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on April 05, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
Obv not the same one as you lol

I definitely wouldn't have said he was outstanding, he did clear up quite a bit of ball but also lost the ball on a number of occasions that led Donegal scores.

In saying that he wasn't the only one.  If I was to pick who I thought was good in defence on the day I would have to say Ricky Johnson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 06, 2011, 01:27:14 PM
i fancy a saffron win on sunday  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 06, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 06, 2011, 01:27:14 PM
i fancy a saffron win on sunday  ;D

I like your sunny sided optimism Simon :)

After two consecutive promotions it was always going to be difficult to stay in Div 2.  Things weren't helped by injuries and unavailability and with this in mind Antrim did not disgrace themselves.  Also the gap in quality between Div 2 and Div 3 is much bigger than the gap between Div 1 and Div 2.

As for the future unfortunately Donegal seem to be flying at the minute and even if players like CJ and Mick McCann (and even Loughrey) do comeback they won't have any inter county time under their belts. so I would think the chances of a victory in Ballybofey next month are virtually negligible.  After that it depends on the qualifier draw.  Also there are (I think) 6 weeks between the Donegal game and the first round of the qualifiers so it depends whether that is a good break to right any wrongs or just too long a lay off at the start of the Championship :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 06:31:24 PM
Quote from: PeteG on April 04, 2011, 10:35:43 PM
Didn't hear the game on the radio but was up at it and wouldn't have said Healy had a great game.  He won a fair few balls but got caught out a number of times either being too slow releasing the ball and or gave the ball away.  Usually a solid enough player but seemed to be having a bit of a nightmare on the day.

That's grand pete, I'll taking your view of the game over Martin (who?) McHugh any day ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wherefromref on April 11, 2011, 04:45:37 PM
Ventured over to Casement yesterday hoping to see an injury hit and relegation threatened Antrim team that would put it up to Derry, how wrong I was!

Antrim looked like a bunch of men thrown together ten minutes before throw in and told to fulfill the fixture! McCann looked our only threat in the forwards and no one was willing to carry the ball out of defence in the absence of Scullion! Terrible performance and the referee did not help matters! Donegal will not be worried I suspect!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 11, 2011, 05:20:25 PM
who all played well? didnt get to the game. listened to it on the radio. the only players to play well seemed to be mc cann, cunningham as usual, murray and kerr the goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on April 11, 2011, 06:10:14 PM
The full back line were roasted.
In the half back line Murray done ok driving forward

Midfield were cleaned out, don't think Burke touched the ball although Gallagher came into it late on when the game was dead.

Up front Tomas and Cunningham hit some nice scores when McCloy was marking them but neither could get anything from the other Derry defenders.

Poor performance overall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on April 11, 2011, 10:14:57 PM
What I heard was that the FB line did well, considering that we were being cleaned out in the middle third.

FB line will always struggle if the supply of ball coming in is good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on April 12, 2011, 10:08:01 PM
Not really surprising that they were being cleaned out, we were down to 14 men and Bradley still saw fit to continue to play the sweeper for the last 15 mins of the first half.  May as well have been playing with 13!!  2 extra derry men left our boys having to work twice as hard to win anything, thats bound to really take it out of you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on April 13, 2011, 10:01:31 AM
Moneyglass  Cargin  Cargin
St Galls  Rasharkin  St Galls
Creggan  Lamh Dhearg  Lamh Dearg
St Brigids  St Johns  St Johns
Aghagallon  Ahoghill Draw 
Any predictions lads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 13, 2011, 10:47:37 AM
agree with most apart from rasharkin beating st galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on April 13, 2011, 12:31:11 PM
 :D Those weren't my actual predictions, I just forgot to delete from my copying and pasting off the county website. Will do it right now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 13, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Aghagallon 3-11 Ahoghill 1-12

I think it finished up. Good win for Aghagallon in their first game in Div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 13, 2011, 08:46:15 PM
Moneyglass 0-16 v 0-9 Cargin    
Creggan 0-15 v 0-10 Lamh Dhearg
St Brigids 1-12 v 1-15 St Johns
Aghagallon    3-11 v 1-12 Ahoghill St. Marys

Slight upset in Cargin being beaten by such a margin by neighbours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2011, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 13, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Aghagallon 3-11 Ahoghill 1-12

I think it finished up. Good win for Aghagallon in their first game in Div 1

Aren't they on the border near Armagh?? Played once or twice there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 13, 2011, 08:58:19 PM
Aye a few mile from Lurgan. Think they play St Gall's next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2011, 09:01:59 PM
Three upsets there. Didn't realise Aghagallon were in division 1 though they've been much better over the last ten years or so at underage than they used to be.

Moneyglass will fairly celebrate that win. Wouldn't have expected the Johnnies to beat St Brigids. I wonder is Loughrey playing?

Good win for Creggan too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on April 13, 2011, 09:54:22 PM
Good win for Aghagallon. I'd imagine Cargin were missing Scullion, M McCann, Crozier and O'Boyle so I doubt Moneyglass will celebrate too much. Rasharkin beat St Galls by a bagful, what's going on there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2011, 10:17:24 PM
3-11 to 0-7

Rasharkin for the Antrim title after that result, oh wait didn't the Johnnies beat us in our fist game last year?

Wasn't at the match so cant comment but fair old beating anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 14, 2011, 10:47:53 AM
I hear st galls had a poor team out, with injured boys having to strip out. wouldnt read too much into their league results. Just read about scullion though today in the paper, sounds nasty. miss the donegal match perhaps? michael mc cann out for a long time. Cargin seem like they will be in trouble.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on April 18, 2011, 03:15:08 PM
Doesn't seem like too much trouble for Cargin after yesterday. Expected Lamh Dearg to be contenders this year with minors coming through, early indications it might be too soon though.
Johnnies look strong so far.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on April 19, 2011, 04:16:57 PM
Interesting enough start to Div1 with some surprise results but when a team is promoted/new management they can catch teams on the off.

The johnnies are a big strong team and were a good league team last year.

Cargin will win the league unless they give points to other clubs again. Mick McCann big loss

Creggan and St bridgets are on near level par but with loughrey only playing club fball would favour them. 

What happened Ahoghill, 2nd year syndrome? injuries?

Moneyglass doing well so far but you get that with a new manager - everyone bursting there gut to impress.

Aghagallon - would be surprised if they get 8 points this year.

Galls will just do the usual through the league and then win the championship.

Rasharkin should stay up.

Lamh Dhearg will be contenders for c'ship. Any club team with a free-taker like hands will win games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on April 20, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
Tonight's div1 league fixtures


Cargin v St Johns    game of the round, favoring cargin at home
Ahoghill St. Marys v Lamh Dhearg    
Aghagallon v Rasharkin    
St Brigids v Moneyglass    Good test for m'glass here
Creggan v St Galls    

Predictions in bold
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on April 20, 2011, 02:54:57 PM
Cargin v St Johns   
Ahoghill St. Marys v Lamh Dhearg    
Aghagallon v Rasharkin    Draw
St Brigids v Moneyglass
Creggan v St Galls     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on April 20, 2011, 11:01:20 PM
Quote from: pebble-dasher on April 20, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
Tonight's div1 league fixtures


Cargin v St Johns    game of the round, favoring cargin at home
Ahoghill St. Marys v Lamh Dhearg    
Aghagallon v Rasharkin    
St Brigids v Moneyglass    Good test for m'glass here
Creggan v St Galls    

Predictions in bold

Good shooting apart from the Cargin result but cant blame you for picking them.  Portglenone, Gortnamona and St Pauls setting the pace in div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on May 05, 2011, 12:09:34 PM
great news to see michael mc cann getting some game time. Even if he's not fully fit, he will still bring something to the antrim team because he's a composed footballer and very good at bringing other players into the play. i think its hard to see mc clean playing so soon after that operation, we really could have done with his size to deal with mc fadden.
i wonder who'll pick up murphy, he seemed to wander out the field a lot against laois, and the numbers donegal were bringing behind the ball was so hard to play against that i hope our boys have practised long-range shooting cos they probably will need it against donegal, if and when we dont/cant get the ball into the inside forwards quickly.
I'm hoping that like in 2009 when antrim stuggled in ways against sligo in the div.4 final and went back into training for 6 or 7 weeks and came into the donegal match very sharp and very well organised with plenty of men behind the ball and also in that pre-championship preparation found the two target men in burke and m mc cann to play in the full-forward line, hopefully that has happened this year and the boys are focused and up for the match.
i thought last year the most disapointing thing about the tyrone match was that we didnt even rattle them, hoping we can give donegal something to think/worry about.
did james loughrey ever come back onto the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
Anyone at the st galls johnnies game?  Thought the johnnies were ment to be flying and st galls only turning up?  Did st galls put a team out?

No other shocks or big wins except surprised ahoghill drew with creggan to get there first point of the year.

As for the USFC against Donegal anyone have an idea of team?
Scullion will def start after playing in that friendly last week.  McLean needed big time in full-back but think this game come too quick for him.  Up front who is going to do the scoring from play?
Apparently R.Johnson had a great game against murphy in the league but championship a different matter.
Cant see anything other than a donegal win, hoping for a run of 3/4 games in the qualifers and maby more if we get a team back together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on May 06, 2011, 09:50:24 AM
As a johnnies man, i was hoping we could have won easy, st galls had a decent team out. mc gourtys, mc clean, stewart all missing. we scored 4/5 points at the end when st galls began to tire.

Regarding antrims chances against donegal, there is no hope. i know a few years back we were able to get over the line. we have no forwards to score from play, and our defence is leaking too many scores.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on May 06, 2011, 10:45:48 AM
c. kerr
ko'boyle    r.johnston   a. douglas
t.scullion    j crozier      t.o'neill
       s.burke  a gallagher
k.mc gourty                 t.mccann(poss. inj)
hands        k niblock     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on May 06, 2011, 12:40:28 PM
c.kerr
brady
johnstone
o boyle
scullion
healy
crozier
burke
gallagher
o neill
niblock
mc gourty
hands
m.mcann
brady
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
CJ burnt out, the mind does boogle!  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
Ok, this Sunday in Donegal, is there an upset? Antrim in Championship have always done well in Donegal, couple of wins and a right few narrow defeats. Bookies have Donegal at 2/9 which in fairness is a true reflection of the form they bring into the match. Antrim are at a sorry 9/2 for the game. No doubt the handicap will be Antrim plus foul, possibly plus five.

On the league form thats where we are at. League and Championship is totally different. The team that played in the league won't be the same nor positionally the same. I think Donegal can sometimes implode on the day and Antrim would need to be on a good day to take advantage. Haven't read much on Donegal leading up to the match so don't know about any problems injury wise they have or their starting 15.

Simons team ain't bad looking on paper, McCann apparently is shaping up well since he's been back but would doubt he's up to Championship level yet but in Fullforward he could more than hold his own, win frees for Paddy to stick over.

I'm going for a more closely contested match than what the bookies think, Donegal may win but with only a couple of points to spare and Antrim with a chance in the end to steal it (But miss :()
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 10, 2011, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
Ok, this Sunday in Donegal, is there an upset? Antrim in Championship have always done well in Donegal, couple of wins and a right few narrow defeats. Bookies have Donegal at 2/9 which in fairness is a true reflection of the form they bring into the match. Antrim are at a sorry 9/2 for the game. No doubt the handicap will be Antrim plus foul, possibly plus five.

On the league form thats where we are at. League and Championship is totally different. The team that played in the league won't be the same nor positionally the same. I think Donegal can sometimes implode on the day and Antrim would need to be on a good day to take advantage. Haven't read much on Donegal leading up to the match so don't know about any problems injury wise they have or their starting 15.

Simons team ain't bad looking on paper, McCann apparently is shaping up well since he's been back but would doubt he's up to Championship level yet but in Fullforward he could more than hold his own, win frees for Paddy to stick over.

I'm going for a more closely contested match than what the bookies think, Donegal may win but with only a couple of points to spare and Antrim with a chance in the end to steal it (But miss :()

I'm definitely having some of that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on May 11, 2011, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 10, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
CJ burnt out, the mind does boogle!  >:(

Would this be unrealistic? He has seen serious amount of football and hurling for club, county and colleges in the last 5/6 years and he is only 23. If this was someone else making this claim would it be taken differently?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2011, 05:29:49 PM
May not play this year for the club, he needs to rest up and get properly recovered.

Rushing back could end your playing career
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 12, 2011, 09:31:14 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 11, 2011, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 10, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
CJ burnt out, the mind does boogle!  >:(

Would this be unrealistic? He has seen serious amount of football and hurling for club, county and colleges in the last 5/6 years and he is only 23. If this was someone else making this claim would it be taken differently?

He has not played any more than comparable players of his age, if he was playing for the Hurlers he wasnt playing for the footballers and vice versa and he has been doing little of either for the past while. Im not saying it unrealistic but it couldnt just be an injury. Wouldnt suit the profile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 12, 2011, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
Ok, this Sunday in Donegal, is there an upset? Antrim in Championship have always done well in Donegal, couple of wins and a right few narrow defeats. Bookies have Donegal at 2/9 which in fairness is a true reflection of the form they bring into the match. Antrim are at a sorry 9/2 for the game. No doubt the handicap will be Antrim plus foul, possibly plus five.

On the league form thats where we are at. League and Championship is totally different. The team that played in the league won't be the same nor positionally the same. I think Donegal can sometimes implode on the day and Antrim would need to be on a good day to take advantage. Haven't read much on Donegal leading up to the match so don't know about any problems injury wise they have or their starting 15.

Simons team ain't bad looking on paper, McCann apparently is shaping up well since he's been back but would doubt he's up to Championship level yet but in Fullforward he could more than hold his own, win frees for Paddy to stick over.

I'm going for a more closely contested match than what the bookies think, Donegal may win but with only a couple of points to spare and Antrim with a chance in the end to steal it (But miss :()

You'll be happy then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Stick to the Derry thread Sam
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on May 12, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
any of use boys heading up to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 12, 2011, 11:13:50 PM
Team for Sunday

1. SEAN O NEILL  (DAVITTS)

2. KEVIN O BOYLE (CARGIN) CAPTAIN
3. RICKY JOHNSTON (KICKHAMS CREGGAN)
4. COLIN BRADY  (ST GALLS)

5. TONY SCULLION (CARGIN)
6. JUSTIN CROZIER (CARGIN)
7. ANTO HEALY        (ST GALLS)

8. MICHAEL MC CANN (CARGIN)
9. AODHAN GALLAGHER (ST.GALLS)

10. CONOR MURRAY (LAMH DHEARG)
11. TOMAS MC CANN (CARGIN)
12. MARK SWEENEY (ST.BRIGIDS)

13. PADDY CUNNINGHAM (LAMH DHEARG)
14. BRENDAN HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
15. KEVIN NIBLOCK (ST.GALLS)

16. CHRIS KERR (ST.GALLS)
17. KEVIN BRADY (MONEYGLASS)
18. SEAN FINCH (ROSSA)
19. TERRY O NEILL (ST.GALLS)
20. MARTY JOHNSTON (KICKHAMS CREGGAN)
21. MICHAEL ARMSTRONG (ROSSA)
22. SEAN BURKE (ST.GALLS)
24.MARK MC ALEESE (PORTGLENONE)
25. MARK DOUGAN (KICKHAMS CREGGAN)
26. JAMES LAVERTY (CARGIN)
27. ANDY MC CLEAN (ST.GALLS)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on May 13, 2011, 06:40:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 12, 2011, 09:31:14 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 11, 2011, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 10, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
CJ burnt out, the mind does boogle!  >:(

Would this be unrealistic? He has seen serious amount of football and hurling for club, county and colleges in the last 5/6 years and he is only 23. If this was someone else making this claim would it be taken differently?


He has not played any more than comparable players of his age, if he was playing for the Hurlers he wasnt playing for the footballers and vice versa and he has been doing little of either for the past while. Im not saying it unrealistic but it couldnt just be an injury. Wouldnt suit the profile.
Agreed Nag.Talking to a few other boys on the panel and the concensus is that he won't be missed along with his big bro. Baker now sorry apparently he ever bothered with them. What do you expect from "Special Talents" as their Da would say!!! :P 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 13, 2011, 08:35:15 AM
Is Dean O'Neill off the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 13, 2011, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 13, 2011, 08:35:15 AM
Is Dean O'Neill off the panel?

I think in the end he wasn't eligible to play for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on May 13, 2011, 09:43:45 AM
Im led to believe that tomas mc cann is nowhere near fit, havent tore ankle ligaments a few weeks back. Michael has not played a game all year and is playing midfield? Kevin brady has been a consistent performer all year and must be disappointed with mark dougan currently div 1 top scorer. Mark sweeney? against derry he was booked twice after 15 minutes, he will be no use to us getting sent off. Kevin Mc Gourty is a massive loss, he lifted us when tyrone were on top in casement last year. Brendan herron, was at fault for both goals against tyrone last year. Terry o neill was antrims best player when the sides met in 2009 and sweeney is in ahead of him? Sean Burke has played in every game at midfield, and dropped. The goalkeeper position is interesting also, as im also led to believe that sean o neill did not train until the soccer season was over? chris kerr, had done enough in my opinion in the derry game at home to be selected. John finucane and sean mc greevey must be wondering what they did wrong to be dropped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on May 17, 2011, 12:49:18 PM
Lads, quick question.

South Antrim Berringer Cup...do teams in divisions 1 to 3 have to play their second string?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on May 17, 2011, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on May 17, 2011, 12:49:18 PM
Lads, quick question.

South Antrim Berringer Cup...do teams in divisions 1 to 3 have to play their second string?

Don't know if this is up-to-date, but from:
http://www.southantrimgaa.com/Documents/League%20&%20Cup%20Regulations%202011.doc

8.0   BERINGER CUP
8.01   Only those clubs registered with South Antrim may compete in the Beringer Cup.
8.02   A club in Division 1 of the ACFL may not use any player graded 1 – 15 (All County League grading) of that team in the Beringer Cup.
8.03   A club competing in the Antrim Senior Football Championship in the current year may not use any player graded 1 -15 (All County League grading) of that team in the Beringer Cup.
8.04   Any player who has played in the Antrim Senior Football Championship in the current year cannot play in the Beringer Cup.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
That sounds about right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
8.05 Every full forward and full back must have a beer belly  ;D

Not much talk on here about sunday.

Less said about the seniors the better however great win for the minors. Donegal did well in the minor league so this was a victory against a good team. I saw highlights on TG4 (didn't make the game) and some real good football was played - even the 97/98 and 2005(?) teams that made ulster finals didn't play like that. (thought it's early yet) Hopefully we can get some kind of a run together here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on May 17, 2011, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
8.05 Every full forward and full back must have a beer belly  ;D
Not much talk on here about sunday.

Less said about the seniors the better however great win for the minors. Donegal did well in the minor league so this was a victory against a good team. I saw highlights on TG4 (didn't make the game) and some real good football was played - even the 97/98 and 2005(?) teams that made ulster finals didn't play like that. (thought it's early yet) Hopefully we can get some kind of a run together here.

Not quite at that stage...yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 19, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
After last weekends disappointment, I heard some good news for Antrim football today.

Conor Murray, Andrew McLean and CJ McGourty will all be studying next year in UUJ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 19, 2011, 06:32:40 PM
Ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on May 19, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
After last weekends disappointment, I heard some good news for Antrim football today.

Conor Murray, Andrew McLean and CJ McGourty will all be studying next year in UUJ.

I thought he worked there, Will this improve UUJ or Antrim? CJ is struggling with his injury, be a while before he thinks about playing competitively
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2011, 08:35:27 PM
Murray's already there and CJ has had a good bit of sigerson with st marys. McLean I'm not sure of.

I don't think it'll do much for Antrim. 2 of the 3 would get it tough to get on the team anyway.

When is the minor game against Cavan - next weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 19, 2011, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2011, 08:27:37 PM
8.05 Every full forward and full back must have a beer belly  ;D

Not much talk on here about sunday.

Less said about the seniors the better however great win for the minors. Donegal did well in the minor league so this was a victory against a good team. I saw highlights on TG4 (didn't make the game) and some real good football was played - even the 97/98 and 2005(?) teams that made ulster finals didn't play like that. (thought it's early yet) Hopefully we can get some kind of a run together here.

2006

Quote from: CentreHalfBack on May 19, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
After last weekends disappointment, I heard some good news for Antrim football today.

Conor Murray, Andrew McLean and CJ McGourty will all be studying next year in UUJ.

Can't see how that's good news. Maybe if they work hard enough they'll eventually make it to Queen's.

Besides two of them boys will be injured and the third bench warming.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 20, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
When I say good news for Antrim football, I mean, at least these boys will be studying at home and not across the water. So therefore they should be availablefor Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 20, 2011, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 19, 2011, 08:35:27 PM
Murray's already there and CJ has had a good bit of sigerson with st marys. McLean I'm not sure of.

I don't think it'll do much for Antrim. 2 of the 3 would get it tough to get on the team anyway.

When is the minor game against Cavan - next weekend?

According to the County Board website, it's next Sunday 29th at Pairc Esler, Newry @ 7:00pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 23, 2011, 12:09:48 AM
Cnapán
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 25, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
Cargin  2-15 1-10 St Galls 
Rasharkin  0-12 1-6 St Brigids
Lamh Dhearg  2-14 0-7 Aghagallon
St Johns  0-10 1-11 Ahoghill St. Marys 

Shock results there, big win for ahoghill up in corrigan, first win of the league? johnnies must of felt bad for beating ahoghill after a reply in championship last year!

Big win for Rasharkin,

Were creggan and moneyglass playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Any craic on May 29, 2011, 07:41:41 PM
See the Cargin goals from a big win over St Brigid's  - http://bit.ly/m8Ppf8 (http://bit.ly/m8Ppf8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 01, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
One of our main players leaves the county panel and not a single mention of it on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 01, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 01, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
One of our main players leaves the county panel and not a single mention of it on here.

Who left?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 01, 2011, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 01, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 01, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
One of our main players leaves the county panel and not a single mention of it on here.

Who left?

Locky McCurdy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2011, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 01, 2011, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 01, 2011, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 01, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
One of our main players leaves the county panel and not a single mention of it on here.

Who left?

Locky McCurdy

He tried to stay on but Baker refused to allow carry outs on the bus ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on June 02, 2011, 09:46:24 AM
Paddy Cunningham has left the panel due to being substituted against donegal. Chris Kerr, Sean Finch, Colm Fleming and Michael Armstrong have also left.

I hear also that james loughrey and sean kelly are set to return.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on June 02, 2011, 10:52:51 AM
My only worry is, if bakers tactic for the last 3 years is to work the ball into the forward line and to win frees for paddy to kick over. Who will score for us? with no cj either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 02, 2011, 11:19:54 AM
Never liked the fact he that he was being carried for his frees anyway. His ability off the ball is poor at this standard, for a corner forward with a lack or pace, strength or size says alot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 02, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
Its all nonsense. Yes its was muted by Bradley that Paddy had left - but its a misunderstanding, he will be back next week!

Sean Kelly will not be back in Antrim jersey.

Have no knowledge of what Loughry is doing at present.

2 lads have left as they are heading away.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 02, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 02, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
Its all nonsense. Yes its was muted by Bradley that Paddy had left - but its a misunderstanding, he will be back next week!

Sean Kelly will not be back in Antrim jersey.

Have no knowledge of what Loughry is doing at present.

2 lads have left as they are heading away.
:D Sure it is.

Loughrey will be back.

3-4 panellists have left.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on June 02, 2011, 01:32:25 PM
So cunningham left because he got substituted against donegal? That is a disgrace. Thinks he is bigger than the team. Agreed he is too slow and cant take a man on.The Rossa boys have left due to going to boston for the summer and they were not getting a look in anyway bar armstrong.Im led to believe that kerr has left the panel due to the fact that o neill never trained until the soccer season was over? If so, this is a disgraceful piece of management and also a slap in the face for sean mcgreevey and john finucane who were dropped for a man who didnt train. The vibe coming from the camp is morale is at an all time low, we as saffron supporters may continue to pray that we draw one of the weaker sides in the qualifier, so that we can at least enjoy a victory in 2011.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on June 02, 2011, 09:50:14 PM
Why does Antrim have so many prima donnas in both codes ?..... do these guys not realise that they are lucky to have been asked to play for their county.I think they over estimate they're own ability. There isn't one player in either football or hurling from Antrim,who would even make the panel for one of the top counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on June 06, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
I hear paul galvin has been training with st galls ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 06, 2011, 04:34:58 PM
u serious or wats going on here????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on June 06, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
Apparently he is joining. To take up fashion in belfast, as plans fell through in dublin. As if st galls need to get any stronger, suppose if he can win an all ireland at club level, he will have the complete set.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 06, 2011, 05:29:57 PM
lol seriously are you for real?? can you say how you know this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 06:26:12 PM
He's only hurling mind you!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
He's meant to be a cracking hurler and if I remember rightly I think he has said he prefers the hurling...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 06, 2011, 10:19:05 PM
aye ive heard that too and where he's from up there in north kerry he's not far from limerick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 07, 2011, 03:07:31 PM
Whispers, thats all (although apparently its being talked about in Casement bar so it must be true)!

Its actually a believeable one though - he prob is going to belfast to study. ££££

Watch this space for another high profile exit from county football panel!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 07, 2011, 04:57:59 PM
Derry play Antrim tonight at the Bridge 7-30pm throwin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 07, 2011, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 07, 2011, 03:07:31 PM
Whispers, thats all (although apparently its being talked about in Casement bar so it must be true)!

Its actually a believeable one though - he prob is going to belfast to study. ££££

Watch this space for another high profile exit from county football panel!!
Not exactly a shock though, is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 08, 2011, 08:30:08 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on June 06, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
Apparently he is joining. To take up fashion in belfast, as plans fell through in dublin. As if st galls need to get any stronger, suppose if he can win an all ireland at club level, he will have the complete set.

He already has an All-Ireland at club level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 08, 2011, 09:22:10 AM
You have an inside track then Colonel Mustard? ;D

No not surprising at all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 08, 2011, 11:26:17 PM
Gerard O' Boyle back on panel/team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2011, 11:53:55 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 08, 2011, 08:30:08 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on June 06, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
Apparently he is joining. To take up fashion in belfast, as plans fell through in dublin. As if st galls need to get any stronger, suppose if he can win an all ireland at club level, he will have the complete set.

He already has an All-Ireland at club level.

Junior.

He's on his way and maybe available for the Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2011, 08:42:10 AM
Westmeath at home - draw could be a lot worse.

Noticed in sunday game highlights that Dessie Dolan is back and looking sharp. Dolan and Glennon will be hard to watch but westmeath defence / midfield look pretty poor.

I'd say Westmeath would be favourites but hopefully it's a game we can get a result from.

Pity it couldn't be a double header for all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 13, 2011, 09:17:42 AM
Yeah itg...by no means the worst draw for Antrim.  At home is a bit of a boost but we've a shocking record in the qualifiers.  Westmeath maybe slight favourites but this game is winnable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 13, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
Shay Given, Kevin Kilbane and Paul Galvin! ::) all spotted in Belfast at the weekend!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 13, 2011, 10:16:03 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 13, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
Shay Given, Kevin Kilbane and Paul Galvin! ::) all spotted in Belfast at the weekend!!!

OK, Given in goal, Kilbane at full back and Galvin at centre forward and we can take Westmeath!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2011, 06:25:42 PM
Galvin spotted in O'Neill's sports shop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on June 16, 2011, 12:30:21 AM
Cargin are going very strong this year, could be set for a headon collision with st galls come championship final, things could be different. . .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 16, 2011, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer_man on June 16, 2011, 12:30:21 AM
Cargin are going very strong this year, could be set for a headon collision with st galls come championship final, things could be different. . .
I've heard that before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2011, 12:18:54 PM
The games the last 2 years have been nothing short of a waste of time and money for the neutrals to see. They were light years behind. I find it hard to see how that gap can be plugged so quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 22, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
i think there is four or five youngish players on the cargin team who have established themselves and have made them into a more complete team in that they are arguably strong/stronger in every position. marty kane in half back, john carron in midfield and james laverty in half-forward are strong and fergal johnston as a thrid midfielder is a good footballer and working hard like the rest of them.
anybody tht seen cargin play against creggan couldnt be anything but impressed with the way the played. strong and very fast, moving the ball well.
when they play st. galls its hard to know how theyll do, playing st. galls in casement is wee buns because there is so much space and st galls know how to use it, cargin also have a fairly bad record in the championship certainnly in terms of performance as they sometimes dont show up or play to their potential.
for the neutral, pre-championship, cargin look to be showing good form going in which is gd news for the neutral but i suppose it's naive to forget how strong st galls are and the experience they have of winning big games.

hope the county perform well on sat. and get a result, addition of loughrey and g o boyle will hopefully improve the team, loughreys bound to start.
does anybody want to hazard a guess at the team?
were the seniors hammered by meath in breffni??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 22, 2011, 10:58:53 AM
jaysus!!
there was craic the bus landed late to Breffni park
is andy mc clean far away from fitness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wherefromref on June 22, 2011, 11:06:43 AM
Cargin shouldn't be looking past the first round just yet bloodybreakball, I hear Rasharkin are playing well and could cause them plenty of problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 22, 2011, 12:25:53 PM
aye rasharkin are formiddable, good for football to see them doing well, whats beeny hasson going like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peil Mad on June 22, 2011, 03:01:20 PM
definitely rasharkin are a strong side and they have shownit in recent years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2011, 03:27:17 PM
They've been up and down like a yo-yo for the last number of years so they can't be that "formidable".

Don't like the look of that Meath scoreline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wherefromref on June 22, 2011, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 22, 2011, 12:25:53 PM
aye rasharkin are formiddable, good for football to see them doing well, whats beeny hasson going like

I couldn't tell you breakball, I havent seen them play this year but am kept up to date through a work colleague from that part of the world, hes happy with their form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aerlik on June 23, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
Hey lads, I thought I drop in and mention, if youse don't already know, that Niall McKeever makes his AFL debut on Saturday night here in Perth.  The Lions will play my team, Fremantle Dockers. 

Although I wish him well, I hope his team doesn't go too well.  It'll be awesome to see two Irishmen (no dubious loyalties there, I might add especially in light of a certain Co.Down golfer's website) on the pitch.

My son and I will be at the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 23, 2011, 06:20:30 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on June 23, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
Hey lads, I thought I drop in and mention, if youse don't already know, that Niall McKeever makes his AFL debut on Saturday night here in Perth.  The Lions will play my team, Fremantle Dockers. 

Although I wish him well, I hope his team doesn't go too well.  It'll be awesome to see two Irishmen (no dubious loyalties there, I might add especially in light of a certain Co.Down golfer's website) on the pitch.

My son and I will be at the game.

Thats great to hear,he must has made good progress to be selected so early on in his career.Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 23, 2011, 11:44:12 PM
that team couldnt be right, id guess tht wont be the team that will start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 24, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
From the Co Board website:

Antrim team to play Westmeath in football qualifier:

1. Sean O'Neill (Michael Davitt's)

2. Colin Brady (St Gall's)
3. Ricky Johnston (Cargin)
4. Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin) (Capt)

5. Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6. Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7. Anto Healy (St Gall's)

8. Michael McCann (Cargin)
9. Aodhan Gallagher (St Gall's)

10. Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11. Tomas McCann (Cargin)
12. Mark Sweeney (St Brigid's)

13. Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14. Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
15. Kevin Niblock (St Gall's)

16. Mark Carey (Moneyglass)
17. Kevin Brady (Moneyglass)
18. Terry O'Neill (St Gall's)
19. Martin Johnston (Cargin)
20. Sean Burke (St Gall's)
21. James Laverty (Cargin)
22. Gerard O'Boyle (Cargin)
23. James Loughrey (St Brigid's)
24. Aaron Douglas (St John's)
25. Kevin Marron (Moneyglass)
26. Dara Edwards (St Brigid's)
27. Deaghlan O'Hagan (St Brigid's)
28. Tiernan Hughes (Ardoyne)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 24, 2011, 11:55:10 AM
That team wont start as named! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 24, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 24, 2011, 11:55:10 AM
That team wont start as named! ;)

Go on then...



If Loughrey doesn't start I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 25, 2011, 10:11:01 AM
loughrey to start, kevin brady in place of mark sweeney, gerard o boyle in place of b herron, brady to hold half-forward, tomeas to push up and niblock to play further out. Aontriom Abu! (and i hope it doesnt pish)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 25, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 25, 2011, 10:11:01 AM
loughrey to start, kevin brady in place of mark sweeney, gerard o boyle in place of b herron, brady to hold half-forward, tomeas to push up and niblock to play further out. Aontriom Abu! (and i hope it doesnt pish)

Looks like it is going to pish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2011, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 25, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 25, 2011, 10:11:01 AM
loughrey to start, kevin brady in place of mark sweeney, gerard o boyle in place of b herron, brady to hold half-forward, tomeas to push up and niblock to play further out. Aontriom Abu! (and i hope it doesnt pish)

Looks like it is going to pish.

Better not, heading up soon, don't want to get caught up in the rush!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 25, 2011, 01:59:56 PM
listen here if your at a loose end

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9173544.stm

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aerlik on June 26, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
No joy for Niall but a quare auld performance for a debut.  He will be happy how he played. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 27, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 27, 2011, 10:31:18 AM
A good win on Saturday. Our defence were superb, I thought. Brendy Herron was probably man of the match. He won everything and used well. Very good performance.

Carlow at home is a good draw.

Yeah good day all round,hurlers win was handy enough as well.Why did Cunningham not start? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 28, 2011, 09:55:25 AM
Sean O'Neill appears to jack in Antrim in favour of Crusaders...

Antrim a bit stuck for a keeper now??  I believe the sub keeper agin' Westmeath was minor keeper Tiernan Hughes of Ard Eoin??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/13940576.stm

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2011, 10:09:46 AM
Shame O'Neill wouldn't be allowed to play in the next game. Likelihood of injury is minimal and 5 days is a long time.
However, unless O'Neill didn't make this clear all along to Bradley, I think the position is fair enough. As he has said Crusaders pay his wages.
Not sure of status re keepers - is Kerr away or was he just disillusioned?
Bradley could do worse than look at St Brigids keeper. Was up watching their match with St Galls and he kept them in the game and seemed to have a decent kick out. Think his name is McSorley.
Are there many other options about?


Not much commentary re the match.
We should have won by more.
Have to concede I arrived into the ground 4 mins in and we were 1-01 down...feared the worst but they came back very well.
Second half we took some seriously aimless shots when recycling the ball would have been the better option. The defensive system requires people catching up with the attack quickly and breaking the line. Scullion and Loughrey did this on a number of occasions but others didn't step up as much.
Gallagher did so for a well worked move that shoudl have been finished with a goal but this was a rare occasion when we saw sight of their goal.

Was interesting to see Cunningham dropped. Bar a couple of frees in the first half that would have been more suitable for a left footer (think Niblock/McCann may have missed a couple from that side) he wasn't really missed.
Gerard O'Boyle showed well but was blocked a couple of times...criminal to be blocked so easily - again recycle the ball and go again instead of taking the lazy option.
Tomas McCann can seriously strike a ball with ease...a bit of comfort that he will put 80% of 45s over is quite a good thing.
Niblock confuses me. Don't get me wrong he is a serious talent, good on the ball, hard to dispossess, can take a score but on the odd occasion he should be quicker to release to a man on the charge beside him instead of going sideways - if he was to release and then go again to pick up the return he would find himself in more space (all of this is in my humble opinion).
Justy picked up a fair bit of loss ball when played as sweeper.

All in all a solid performance and if they work out ways of maximising chances the could get a couple more wins, draw dependent.


Has Michael McCann ripped his hamstring badly then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 28, 2011, 11:50:46 AM
I think Kerr has left the panel and I don't blame him actually. Throwing a minor goalkeeper in is a big risk for next week, are there other options?

See what you mean re Niblock, but he is potentially a class player.. Gerard O'Boyle got a lot of praise in the Irish News yesterday, I actually thought he was quite poor. He was blocked a few times, hit a few wayward shots and his handling wasn't great.Being fair to him he never hid and kept showing,  but it clearly wasn't his day.

Carlow are very beatable, and who knows in the next round, the winners of London v Waterford would be nice. One step at a time though!

I see Cargin were well beaten by Rasharkin in the O'Cahan Cup, what happened there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2011, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 28, 2011, 11:50:46 AM
I think Kerr has left the panel and I don't blame him actually. Throwing a minor goalkeeper in is a big risk for next week, are there other options?

See what you mean re Niblock, but he is potentially a class player.. Gerard O'Boyle got a lot of praise in the Irish News yesterday, I actually thought he was quite poor. He was blocked a few times, hit a few wayward shots and his handling wasn't great.Being fair to him he never hid and kept showing,  but it clearly wasn't his day.

Carlow are very beatable, and who knows in the next round, the winners of London v Waterford would be nice. One step at a time though!

I see Cargin were well beaten by Rasharkin in the O'Cahan Cup, what happened there?

Trying not to be baised but Niblock won every ball that was thrown into him, scored and won frees that were scored, laid off ball that was also converted. Sometimes i wonder were any posters at the game??

Yes he could have done more as some of the other players but christ man, he'd be one of Antrim's main players.

In truth Westmeath were terrible, and when the big midfielder went off injured in the first half it became even easier. Antrim should have won by more and should beat a crap Carlow team. Westmeath played crap and failed to get the ball into their main player who was decent when on the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 28, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2011, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 28, 2011, 11:50:46 AM
I think Kerr has left the panel and I don't blame him actually. Throwing a minor goalkeeper in is a big risk for next week, are there other options?

See what you mean re Niblock, but he is potentially a class player.. Gerard O'Boyle got a lot of praise in the Irish News yesterday, I actually thought he was quite poor. He was blocked a few times, hit a few wayward shots and his handling wasn't great.Being fair to him he never hid and kept showing,  but it clearly wasn't his day.

Carlow are very beatable, and who knows in the next round, the winners of London v Waterford would be nice. One step at a time though!

I see Cargin were well beaten by Rasharkin in the O'Cahan Cup, what happened there?

Trying not to be baised but Niblock won every ball that was thrown into him, scored and won frees that were scored, laid off ball that was also converted. Sometimes i wonder were any posters at the game??

Yes he could have done more as some of the other players but christ man, he'd be one of Antrim's main players.

In truth Westmeath were terrible, and when the big midfielder went off injured in the first half it became even easier. Antrim should have won by more and should beat a crap Carlow team. Westmeath played crap and failed to get the ball into their main player who was decent when on the ball.
Not sure if you meant to quote me but I agree with you. Niblock is our best ball-winner, and a lot of our scores came off his work the other day. Sometimes he tends to over-do it as I think the other poster said, he sometimes maybe gets swallowed up when he tries to do a bit too much. Little evidnce of that on Saturday though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2011, 03:29:39 PM
Niblock without doubt an excellent player but he does a while bit of f**king around which can be frustrating. He's very strong and has got more mobile.

Good draw against Carlow though doubt they'll be afraid of us either.

They look to have a colossal guy Murphy in midfield and can't be too bad if they reached a Leinster semi either so it's far from a given. I'd like to think if we play to our potential we'll win mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 28, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2011, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 28, 2011, 11:50:46 AM
I think Kerr has left the panel and I don't blame him actually. Throwing a minor goalkeeper in is a big risk for next week, are there other options?

See what you mean re Niblock, but he is potentially a class player.. Gerard O'Boyle got a lot of praise in the Irish News yesterday, I actually thought he was quite poor. He was blocked a few times, hit a few wayward shots and his handling wasn't great.Being fair to him he never hid and kept showing,  but it clearly wasn't his day.

Carlow are very beatable, and who knows in the next round, the winners of London v Waterford would be nice. One step at a time though!

I see Cargin were well beaten by Rasharkin in the O'Cahan Cup, what happened there?

Trying not to be baised but Niblock won every ball that was thrown into him, scored and won frees that were scored, laid off ball that was also converted. Sometimes i wonder were any posters at the game??

Yes he could have done more as some of the other players but christ man, he'd be one of Antrim's main players.

In truth Westmeath were terrible, and when the big midfielder went off injured in the first half it became even easier. Antrim should have won by more and should beat a crap Carlow team. Westmeath played crap and failed to get the ball into their main player who was decent when on the ball.
Not sure if you meant to quote me but I agree with you. Niblock is our best ball-winner, and a lot of our scores came off his work the other day. Sometimes he tends to over-do it as I think the other poster said, he sometimes maybe gets swallowed up when he tries to do a bit too much. Little evidnce of that on Saturday though.

Niblock is in our top three players. Apologies if it sounded that I was being seriously critical - just think with refinement he could be great. He is seriously on the cusp at the moment. Alot of traffic goes through him and he used it 90% well. Sometimes he tries to do too much though.
I was at the game and stand by that on a couple of occasions in the second half (at least) he could and should have pop passed off to onrushing players.
As I say only a small point and trying not to labour it as he was one of our best players on Saturday.
I think he would benefit from it as well.

Agree re O'Boyle getting blocked but he did repeatedly show, which is something our corner forwards over the last few years have not been great at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 28, 2011, 04:58:50 PM
Milltown, i dont think that glensman was being overly-critical of niblock, nobody could deny that he is one of our very best players. for my money i think if he moves across the field with the ball its because hes trying to find himself a bit if space for a long delivery into the inside line or is waiting for the irght pass / run to be made and i think he can do that if he wants because he is the main playmaker. also in his defence, if he didnt pop the ball off, i think he might have been told to look for the long ball when in possession. if gerard o boyle's in the inside line and showing sourely you should try and use him, its good to see a good bal-winner in the full-forward line.
very impressed with sean burke, mark dougan to start against carlow becasue he's and out and out forward and brwnden murphy will take serious watching. did thomas walsh transfer back to carlow, do any of you's remember walsh playing for wicklow against antrim in the tommy murphy cup final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 29, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 28, 2011, 04:58:50 PM
Milltown, i dont think that glensman was being overly-critical of niblock, nobody could deny that he is one of our very best players. for my money i think if he moves across the field with the ball its because hes trying to find himself a bit if space for a long delivery into the inside line or is waiting for the irght pass / run to be made and i think he can do that if he wants because he is the main playmaker. also in his defence, if he didnt pop the ball off, i think he might have been told to look for the long ball when in possession. if gerard o boyle's in the inside line and showing sourely you should try and use him, its good to see a good bal-winner in the full-forward line.
very impressed with sean burke, mark dougan to start against carlow becasue he's and out and out forward and brwnden murphy will take serious watching. did thomas walsh transfer back to carlow, do any of you's remember walsh playing for wicklow against antrim in the tommy murphy cup final

Cheers BBB! Agree - when he was able to make time and space he can play the killer passes however the defensive system we play means there are less bodies in that forward line to win clean/break ball so sometimes better to run through defences, breaking the line. St Galls are magic at it, with Kelly being a great exponent of taking a pop pass and breaking the line.

If I'm not mistaken I thought I saw Dougan doing water boy on the terrace side - is he injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 29, 2011, 02:20:37 PM
Ah, the penny drops!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 30, 2011, 01:39:47 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 29, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
If I'm not mistaken I thought I saw Dougan doing water boy on the terrace side - is he injured?

Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
Suspended after his elbow in Ballybofey?

Hmmm. Contravention of his suspension surely or was he doing water boy from the stands?

Who do Antrim think they are, Tyrone?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 30, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
How long did he get? If he got a month that would have been up but do you miss your next match as well? Or would he miss the next match in the Ulster Championship( next year)??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on June 30, 2011, 01:40:35 PM
Who's looking after Sarsfields this year?

Looking at the Div 2 league there. They have 2 points after 10 games, won 0, drew 2 and lost 8.

Not looking great for them.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2011, 06:08:15 PM
Steve Wonder!! I know the two lads looking after them. Good guys shite results!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on June 30, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 30, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
How long did he get? If he got a month that would have been up...

Yes, you're right. He probably got a month but should've got 3 - 1 for the assault and 2 for the stupidity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 04, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Carlow match now a 3:00pm throw-in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on July 08, 2011, 04:58:50 PM
According to hoganstand. Chris Kerr has returned to squad, to take his place as goalkeeper tomorrow? Anyone else shed any light on this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 09, 2011, 01:10:20 PM
Is the team for today a state secret??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 09, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
Do any of you lads know how many fellas you have involved in the London setup ?

There's a lad Mcveigh that plays for them that definitely played underage for Antrim, might have also been on the fringes of the senior team at one stage.

Didn't watch the Fermanagh game, but read a report on it and noticed a McGoldrick scored for london ... is he one of your lads ?  I could be getting him confused with another lad - but there's a McGoldrick that played for St Theresas, he'd be a cousin of the McGoldricks that play for Derry, haven't heard of him about the Antrim setup for a while so was thinking it might be him.

Think i'll take a trip over to casement today, it'll get me out of the house.  Can't see Antrim bowing out today but will be interested to see whether Baker stays on when they do.  John Brennan has always maintained that he'd only look after Derry for one year and then leave. I really hope that's not the case, but if it does materialise, you would imagine Baker would throw his hat in the ring for the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
McVeigh is the captain. He's from Ballymena and has played championship for Antrim. He marked Enda Muldoon and did a decent job against Derry one year. He's not a full back though - midfield / wing half forward for London which is where he should be playing. (a la Paul Doherty - it was round the time (hmm on reflection maybe that hasn't changed) we were struggling for a full back.)

Not sure about anyone else on it. There are pen pics on the site I had a quick flick and didn't see anyone else from antrim. Didn't notice mcgoldick but maybe he could be the st teresas guy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 09, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
Padraig McGoldrick is from St Michael's in Sligo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 09, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
Cheers lads,  Michael magill's stint with London came a bit early by the looks of it, i'd say he'd enjoy playing ball with them at the minute and would be some addition to their team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 09, 2011, 04:38:03 PM
Antrim 1-13 Carlow 2-09 FT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 09, 2011, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
McVeigh is the captain. He's from Ballymena and has played championship for Antrim. He marked Enda Muldoon and did a decent job against Derry one year. He's not a full back though - midfield / wing half forward for London which is where he should be playing. (a la Paul Doherty - it was round the time (hmm on reflection maybe that hasn't changed) we were struggling for a full back.)

Not sure about anyone else on it. There are pen pics on the site I had a quick flick and didn't see anyone else from antrim. Didn't notice mcgoldick but maybe he could be the st teresas guy?

is that Mickey's son ? Would be a nephew of the McCanns, Barney, Paul Peter etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2011, 05:22:42 PM
I'm pretty sure it is hoof. There is a younger brother playing now too who's a carbon copy of him.

How did we only win that game by one point today - I still don't understand.

I think the team that finished on the field is definitely our best FF line at least. Cunningham , Dougan and O'Boyle probably best fit for in there with Niblock out CHF. Niblock does some serious messing with the ball. No matter how much time he had on that ball at the end of the game he got blocked down - very good player but seriously needs to cut the messing as it's so frustrating to watch. Murray I thought MOTM in second half. Johnston very good too. Not sure why Brady was taken off.

Basically start of the second half Baker had a decision to make... Leave Paddy Cunningham on the bench and lose the game or bring him on and win. It was as clear as that with the chances and the frees antrim were missing.Not sure what's going on for him to be sub.

Carlow first goal the antrim defender nearly had his leg broke and should have been a free out and one of their points was wide. However not to take away from Carlow as they showed a lot of grit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 09, 2011, 05:38:39 PM
Not all that long back from the game, Antrim really did make hard work of that.

they came in at half time 1 point up when they should have easily been 4 or more points ahead.  In the first half Carlow  were giving James Loughrey a serious amount of space and Antrim should have inflicted more damage down that left flank than they did.  Carlow were particularly poor in the 1st half, i tihnk all of their scores bar one came from frees and they constantly gave the ball away easily in the final third.

Introduction of Cunningham and Dougan made a big difference for antrim. Dougan proved to be a right handful.  Antrim looked comfortable enough in the 2nd half until they conceded a goal with around 5 mins to go, panic set in a bit then and if it wasn't for some poor passing in the closing stages by carlow that game could have easily gone to extra time.

Agree about Niblock, too often puts the head down and runs into cul de sacs instead of giving the simple ball, was responsible for the loss of possession on a number of occasions.

carlow showed a good bit of resolve to get themselves back in the game towards the end of the second half and got a great reception from their supporters as they left the pitch.

Unless Antrim draw the winners of London or Waterford i say they'll be bowing out at the next stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2011, 05:43:45 PM
Was it just me or did you think Carlow's first goal should have disallowed??

Well I think we will learn a lot from that game with the main thing being Cunningham has to start and in my view Dougan not too far behind too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on July 09, 2011, 05:57:02 PM
I didn't have a clear view of it to be honest.

Antrim had two goals disallowed, i think both were scored by Dougan,  first one was disallowed for a foul by Dougan before he scored and i take it 2nd one was disallowed for squareball. Thought the 2nd one was a close enough call.

Although in saying that the goal that Antrim did get was lucky enough, goal keeper caught the ball outside of the square and held it aloft above his head, he seemed oblivious to the impending threat of Dougan who just punched it out of his hands into the net.

Would have thought there would have been a bit more of a crowd today, maybe quite a few Saffrons opted to make the journey to Parnell Park instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on July 09, 2011, 06:41:34 PM
Have to agree with most here regading Niblock and why he doesn't start Cunningham I will never know .Lucky to come away with that win today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2011, 06:51:03 PM
Down  :o

First c'ship encounter since Coulter's debut in 2000...

Down aren't going so well so you never know but we'd seriously need to get the finger out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 10, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
Down's a great draw--their backs could be roasted by our pace especially Tomas and Lockrey --we may finally break through a few tackles and get a few goals and really beat a team, not just hang on.

But--thats where it'll end --Cork is an awful draw --wouldve been great to get wexford or Ros/Mayo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NP 76 on July 17, 2011, 01:13:08 PM
Quote from: Gold on July 10, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
Down's a great draw--their backs could be roasted by our pace especially Tomas and Lockrey --we may finally break through a few tackles and get a few goals and really beat a team, not just hang on.

But--thats where it'll end --Cork is an awful draw --wouldve been great to get wexford or Ros/Mayo
Are you sure Gold
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 18, 2011, 12:14:45 AM
Quote from: NP 76 on July 17, 2011, 01:13:08 PM
Quote from: Gold on July 10, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
Down's a great draw--their backs could be roasted by our pace especially Tomas and Lockrey --we may finally break through a few tackles and get a few goals and really beat a team, not just hang on.

But--thats where it'll end --Cork is an awful draw --wouldve been great to get wexford or Ros/Mayo
Are you sure Gold

He said "may" and was just being optimistic.

No gloating needed from Down on this thread - thought as the aristocrats they'd be above that.

Despite you I hope they give Cork their fill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 18, 2011, 10:11:46 AM
With Niall Conway and Paddy McNeill leaving and judging by Baker's demeanour after the game, might Antrim be looking for a new manager??  Would Micko like the travelling exps to Casement :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 18, 2011, 12:22:40 PM
Quote from: AQMP on July 18, 2011, 10:11:46 AM
With Niall Conway and Paddy McNeill leaving and judging by Baker's demeanour after the game, might Antrim be looking for a new manager??  Would Micko like the travelling exps to Casement :D
Sure he could get a lift with Dinny!!!! Or stay in his appartment!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on July 19, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
What happened to Ciaran Close who used to play for Antrim. He was a excellent forward and we could do with all the forwards we can get. Maybe he's injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
Good question - he'd be well worth his place on that team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 25, 2011, 12:24:56 AM
Cargin going very well at the moment banging in 8 goals v Creggan. They'll win another league by the looks of things but dont have enough up front to knock Galls off their perch in the championship imo.

Galls and Cargin leading the way for another year with no sign of the others catching up.

Galls main players are now 26-29 and at their peak and could really push for another AI in the next couple of years if they still have the hunger for it. They may as well go for it as they have an extraordinary group of players with really only another 5 years i'd say to challenge on the National stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on July 25, 2011, 12:58:59 AM
Heard tonight Sarsfields could be in a lot of trouble after todays game V St. Paul's.

Sarsfields member assaulting the ref after the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on July 25, 2011, 12:17:45 PM
cargin are going as well as anybody has seen them going in a long time, Clooney are having a horrible year but that result wouldnt be reflective of  the ability of ahoghill, maybe theyve just give up??

i think cargin COULD have the forwards to beat galls, if they dont, i dont think it will be a lack of firepower. more probably would be that st. glls are just that good a team.

ciaran close seems to have a point to prove, james laverty is a very good footballer, very hard working which surely isnt a bad thing against st. galls, not sure whether enda mc groggan could do it at that eilite level but then again maybe anto healy or some of the galls players might be about that level too and mc grogggan might play well. fergal johnston is a classy player, onlyl young but has to show he can do it in a county final or against st. galls whenever they play. gerard o boyle's playing steady but if he hits the form that he was in earlier in his career then i would nt want to mark him, paul mc canns playing good and is helped by the fact that cargins playing well, then add in tomas arguably most potent forward on the senior county panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2011, 01:44:02 PM
That's the paddies in big trouble now, closure may be the only option, all things considered the county needs to have the B***S to make this statement and close them or any other club that cannot steward or control its supporters, although in fairness this was a Member of the management of the paddies he was inside the pitch!. Its getting out of control, 6 major incidents in July across the county involving referees, its gone to far, or the referees committee should just refuse to send out the referees full stop, and take the B*****s to court and do him properly, its the only way this is going to get through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: intheknow11 on July 25, 2011, 05:47:37 PM
Agree that Cargin appear to be goin well but they always seem to be at this time of year.. Remains to be seen if they can make this year the year when they make the step up again... Having watched them as past week against the johnnies and ahoghill i'd have to agree with you on your analysis of the players, with james laverty, fergal johnston, paul mcCann, marty kane and donagh mckeever adding much more strength in depth to cargins panel, Ciaran close has shook off the injury which kept him out for so long and is playin as well as i've seen as long time, these players along with they're county contingent maybe they are worth a punt. If not galls will win another Championship at a canter...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
The gap between Cargin and St Galls has become massive over this last few years. Cargin have a long long way to go to close that gap. The league means nothing with St Galls and Cargin always do well in it so the jury is still out. If Cargin are to compete with st galls they would need to be beating everyone else by large margins come championship time.

Don't get me wrong I think they have the players to mount a challenge however for whatever reason they just never seem to be able to. The last two cargin-st galls championship games were up there with as bad as I have ever seen they were that one sided.

On paper with Kevin O'Boyle, Tony Scullion, Justin Crozier, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann and Kieran Close they should be much closer than they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 12:46:41 AM
Judging Cargin on league form is daft. Even Cargin players, supporters and management will tell you that. With the team they have they should be winning more. In all my years of watching Cargin this team has been their best, problem is they are up against a team that bases their form/training around winning the championship. Who really cares about winning the league? Last time we won the league Cargin won the championship!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 26, 2011, 11:52:12 AM
According to the BBC, Baker has agreed to remain as Antrim football manager for another year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 04, 2011, 12:35:29 PM

"On paper with Kevin O'Boyle, Tony Scullion, Justin Crozier, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann and Kieran Close they should be much closer than they are."

maybe they should, but st. galls arguably have the equal of them players and then strong players beside that. So, I reckon the question is are cargins younger players who have been mentioned, able/ready to do it in the championship? if they are then this will add to cargins strength in depth. Also is the cargin team pulling with the management as in other years (the year wilkinson from ballinderry was there) maybe all hasnt been right in their camp, which it needs to be if their to challenge as stong a team as st. galls

" In all my years of watching Cargin this team has been their best, problem is they are up against a team that bases their form/training around winning the championship."

here milltown, i think cargin have been doing the same this year though, using the league games as preparation to get a team in place playing in a way that can trouble st. galls. e.g. laverty and mc groggan working hard in the 3/4 line, fergal johnstone withdraws and plays like a half-forward too, when cargin get the ball, these three men along with half-backs e.g. marty kane, break forward and attack. johnstone can/does play as a trad. inside forward.
cargin has loads of talent and i hope that come the championship, they will be right to show their ability, if for nothing else, to make the antrim footb. championship interesting for fu*k knows it needs it.

is there any word of the prices for the championship football matches at the weekend, the CB would do well to take notice of the prices across the bann for their championship which have reflected the difficult times people are in. the standard of football on offer is generally higher in doire too, to be honest.
I cant see the CB being too understanding, after all, they have The Dunsilly Centre to finance, so its ok to hit the GAA people who paid (very high) fees at the start of the year, run weekly lottos, club functions, support other clubs grand draws etc....
but then again them boys is there to lead and what would i know, sure i dont put myself forward etc etc etc
how much is the top administrator in antrim gaa getting???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 04, 2011, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on August 04, 2011, 12:35:29 PM


is there any word of the prices for the championship football matches at the weekend, the CB would do well to take notice of the prices across the bann for their championship which have reflected the difficult times people are in. the standard of football on offer is generally higher in doire too, to be honest.
I cant see the CB being too understanding, after all, they have The Dunsilly Centre to finance, so its ok to hit the GAA people who paid (very high) fees at the start of the year, run weekly lottos, club functions, support other clubs grand draws etc....
but then again them boys is there to lead and what would i know, sure i dont put myself forward etc etc etc
how much is the top administrator in antrim gaa getting???

Top administrator get paid nothing bar expenses - Secretary on the other hand.............. :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on August 05, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
I would retract that fairly lively Sniper. Absolutely no need or foundations to that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sniper on August 05, 2011, 03:39:23 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 05, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
I would retract that fairly lively Sniper. Absolutely no need or foundations to that

We aim to please, and keep the status quo, however Colonel I will say unless you are the individual/individuals in question what would you know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on August 05, 2011, 03:50:23 PM
Whether I know the individual or not is not the question. Do you want to fuel the fire for the County Board which has the most dislike for this forum? If you want to make complaints or accusations don't go to an anonymous forum. Go down the correct path
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sniper on August 05, 2011, 04:01:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 05, 2011, 03:50:23 PM
Whether I know the individual or not is not the question. Do you want to fuel the fire for the County Board which has the most dislike for this forum? If you want to make complaints or accusations don't go to an anonymous forum. Go down the correct path

Pot/ Kettle possibly Colonel? Whether the County has a like or dislike for this forum is irrelevant, they patrol and take a dictatorship approach with the county guestbook, posting what they feel is suitable and suppressing everything else, so what makes you think or believe there is a proper path? Frog and the scorpion story springs to mind?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on August 05, 2011, 05:56:22 PM
Your an idiot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 05, 2011, 10:31:57 PM
Any result from the SFC game tonight in Casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2011, 11:51:21 PM
St Pauls beat by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 06, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
the colonel soounds suspiciously like the county guestbook moderator. Our county board would have done very well in east Germany
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on August 06, 2011, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on August 06, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
the colonel soounds suspiciously like the county guestbook moderator. Our county board would have done very well in east Germany

Oh god, I've been outted.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
We played Carrickmore today in a challenge match, they were missing Gormely and Donnelly but was a competitive enough game, that's two weeks in a row were the lads have been playing top teams in Ulster in challenge games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 07, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Cargin beat 'sharkin 19 points to 3 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 07, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Cargin beat 'sharkin 19 points to 3 points

That's a fair oul beating. Play Lamhs next then? Should be a wee bit tighter I'd imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 08, 2011, 03:19:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 07, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Cargin beat 'sharkin 19 points to 3 points

That's a fair oul beating. Play Lamhs next then? Should be a wee bit tighter I'd imagine

thats some tanking to be fair, especially in a sfc match!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on August 08, 2011, 09:54:09 AM
He gave an exhibition of football last night.  Fantastic game -
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2011, 10:42:44 AM
You're a ballbag hardstation. Davy would have refereed fine, Rossa are just shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
He doesnt care who wins FFS. Ok i was not at it but know davy well enough to know he would call it as he sees it. Neutral refs can't cheat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on August 08, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
He doesnt care who wins FFS. Ok i was not at it but know davy well enough to know he would call it as he sees it. Neutral refs can't cheat
Cant see how any of us can berate a ref and lament standards unless you are a ref yourself or aspire to be one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 08, 2011, 01:20:20 PM
Difference is that the Lollipop man is getting paid to cross the road. These guys are giving up of their own free time and doing it so that these games get played then you cant get overly critical IMO

We should be looking to improve the standard of these volunteers and not drive them away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 08, 2011, 03:02:18 PM
Was at Casement last night also. Thought Davy done OK, cant see where hardstations coming from, sounds like a bit of bitterness tbh. More should be talked about tirnanogs brilliant revival, good side, Magills still got it as well btw!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 08, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2011, 10:42:44 AM
You're a ballbag hardstation. Davy would have refereed fine, Rossa are just shite
Ask anyone who was there, including a number of St. Gall's ones. He is a cheatin cnut. Rossa were bad, to be fair.

HS you'd do better turning your energy on the County Secretary and arse lickers alike, 2nd time over the weekend no stewards or anything at casement, must speak with some of legal colleagues to see if they are in breech of City Council Regulations? Free for all on the steps on Friday night, changing rooms opened not locked, kids hanging off the stands, the County is in such a fckn mess it's unbelievable, its just fckn embarrassing! First it was Tea and Coffee at half time, next it will be the floodlights FFS. Davey is one of the nicest and most accommodating lads you will ever meet, real old school in his approach to people and always has a smile and a Joke, catch a fckn grip and piss on someone els'e parade. I'd suggest that you remove your comments, Joe Brolly may get a call ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on August 08, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
Great to hear magill playing to his potential.  Never would have thought they would have beaten rossa who i thought wouldnt be far away from the intermediate title. 

Shock of the weekend for me was dunloy beating aghagallon. 
This shows that really there is no difference from around 3/4th place in division 1 and the all of division 2.  If dunloy get the players out they could give it a go.

Expected cargin to hammer rasharkin and creggan to just beat st pauls.
All set up for a cargin galls final again with st johns the only team i think could cause an upset.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2011, 04:56:07 PM
Your well out of order HS, reign it in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 08, 2011, 08:31:02 PM
Is there anywhere you can get odds on the intermediate championship outright, and individual games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 08, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
The intermediate is the only competitive championship. Senior is Galls to lose with only Cargin to possibly challenge--boring
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 08, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
The intermediate is the only competitive championship. Senior is Galls to lose with only Cargin to possibly challenge--boring

Not boring if your winning!!

Listen Cargin and St Galls aren't at fault here, St Galls and Cargin go full pelt at training, have had good juveniles and good coaching in place for years and are successful because of it. It is up to the other teams to get to that level. St Galls are going flat out this year. Worried that Cargin could beat them, should they meet.

It maybe shows a lack of ambition possibly by other teams who maybe don't put the effort in cause they believe they will eventually get beat by one of the big two. We can't be great forever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on August 09, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 08, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
The intermediate is the only competitive championship. Senior is Galls to lose with only Cargin to possibly challenge--boring
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It maybe shows a lack of ambition possibly by other teams who maybe don't put the effort in cause they believe they will eventually get beat by one of the big two. We can't be great forever.
Exactly the point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 09, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 08, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
The intermediate is the only competitive championship. Senior is Galls to lose with only Cargin to possibly challenge--boring
[/quote

It maybe shows a lack of ambition possibly by other teams who maybe don't put the effort in cause they believe they will eventually get beat by one of the big two. We can't be great forever.
Exactly the point.


You must be off today big man celebrating something  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 09, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 08, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
The intermediate is the only competitive championship. Senior is Galls to lose with only Cargin to possibly challenge--boring

Not boring if your winning!!

Listen Cargin and St Galls aren't at fault here, St Galls and Cargin go full pelt at training, have had good juveniles and good coaching in place for years and are successful because of it. It is up to the other teams to get to that level. St Galls are going flat out this year. Worried that Cargin could beat them, should they meet.

It maybe shows a lack of ambition possibly by other teams who maybe don't put the effort in cause they believe they will eventually get beat by one of the big two. We can't be great forever.

What has happened to Lamh Dhearg Milltown I thought they had great potentiel with good minors coming through,has the new management team they put in place this year not fulfilled that or do they need a few years yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 09, 2011, 11:55:23 AM
MILLTOWN:
if you look at the age profile of your team, take sean kelly for example, is he 29? he is as fit as a fiddle and prob could go at a good club standard for another 6/7 years at least. then you have sean burke and cj at 23/24, who are probably coming into their best years. after that group and any younger players can be improved with the experience of training and playing with the quality players in your club and blooded in gradually. or do youse expect a lot of players to retire at the one time? (Wishful thinking)
i think cargins improved and i hope they will give yous a real rattle, still have to get by Lamh Dhearg and Creggan though.
Antrim football is like the all-ireland senior hurling championship in the last 5 years. All commentators said that the other hurling counties had to improve and bring themselves up to the standard that Killkenny (St. Gall's) have set, it took maybe three years building but tipp did that. Now, like milltown says about St. galls, it is up to the other clubs in antrim to break into the top 2, cargin and st.galls.
in antrim the best hope for breaking into antrim's top 2 to is arguably/maybe creggan and possibly st brigids or st. johns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2011, 12:09:48 PM
The Lamh Dhearg minors are just that, kids, they will need to bed in and they will certainly come on in a few years providing they stay.

The last championship team of Lamhs was based on a good minor team (beat my minor team in final :-[) so they have history of developing good minors in seniors.

We won many a minor championship and only a couple have manged to break onto the senior team. We have lost many a good player from that age bracket
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 09, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
I would rank them the following (largely follows league form with a few deviations):

1. Galls – out on their own, still. As has been noted have been playing competitive championship matches v good teams from other counties. Results of late in the league see them getting up a head of steam. Hard to stop.

2. Cargin – seem to be going rightly. Good blend of experience (not necessarily years, but football) and some of those good minor and under 21 teams. If it is to be their year and they are to beat the Galls everything needs to go right for them.

3. Lamh Dhearg – they gave Creggan and Brigids right pastings in the league I see and seem in good form. The two Herrons around the middle/HB/HF and Paddy inside make them a decent prospect. I assume Ryan Murray will be starting for them – having the stand out minor player in the county is a good thing.

4. St Johns – should be confident and rightly so of setting up a match v St Galls having beat Brigids twice this year. Despite their recent league game which I would read nothing into they could pull off an upset v St Galls if they retain their discipline and get scorers to support Neeson and McFall. Should have beaten St Galls last year (especially after Stewart getting sent off) and should take good heart from that.

5. Creggan – slightly unknown but will beat Ahoghill. If they play Cargin it will be warfare but Cargin look like they have a little too much for them.

6. Moneyglass – tough that they are playing St Galls. If they got it right on the night they could give them a rattle with Brady and Boyd (but will come up short).

7. St Brigids – understand that they are in a serious bit of disarray this year. Scraped past Aghagallon in the league there and given Dunloy eased past Aghagallon in the intermediate championship it doesn't bode well. Believe from a friend who knows one of their players there has been a substantial amount of in-fighting and they don't have a manager at present. Shame, have potential to come good but it won't be this year or for a few more.

8.Ahoghill – unfortunately though they appeared to have tried hard this year the top of Division 2 appears to be their level and unless I am sorely mistaken they'll be out after they play Creggan.


Semi pairings will be (would take an evens bet on this):
Cargin v Creggan
St Johns v Galls.

Final
Galls to beat Cargin in the final by 5.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 09, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 09, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
I would rank them the following (largely follows league form with a few deviations):

1. Galls – out on their own, still. As has been noted have been playing competitive championship matches v good teams from other counties. Results of late in the league see them getting up a head of steam. Hard to stop.

2. Cargin – seem to be going rightly. Good blend of experience (not necessarily years, but football) and some of those good minor and under 21 teams. If it is to be their year and they are to beat the Galls everything needs to go right for them.

3. Lamh Dhearg – they gave Creggan and Brigids right pastings in the league I see and seem in good form. The two Herrons around the middle/HB/HF and Paddy inside make them a decent prospect. I assume Ryan Murray will be starting for them – having the stand out minor player in the county is a good thing.

4. St Johns – should be confident and rightly so of setting up a match v St Galls having beat Brigids twice this year. Despite their recent league game which I would read nothing into they could pull off an upset v St Galls if they retain their discipline and get scorers to support Neeson and McFall. Should have beaten St Galls last year (especially after Stewart getting sent off) and should take good heart from that.

5. Creggan – slightly unknown but will beat Ahoghill. If they play Cargin it will be warfare but Cargin look like they have a little too much for them.

6. Moneyglass – tough that they are playing St Galls. If they got it right on the night they could give them a rattle with Brady and Boyd (but will come up short).

7. St Brigids – understand that they are in a serious bit of disarray this year. Scraped past Aghagallon in the league there and given Dunloy eased past Aghagallon in the intermediate championship it doesn't bode well. Believe from a friend who knows one of their players there has been a substantial amount of in-fighting and they don't have a manager at present. Shame, have potential to come good but it won't be this year or for a few more.

8.Ahoghill – unfortunately though they appeared to have tried hard this year the top of Division 2 appears to be their level and unless I am sorely mistaken they'll be out after they play Creggan.


Semi pairings will be (would take an evens bet on this):
Cargin v Creggan
St Johns v Galls.

Final
Galls to beat Cargin in the final by 5.

Very well put but i reckon ahoghill might spring a surprise v creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 10, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
Div 1 result:

Aghagallon  2-13 0-15 Cargin    :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 10, 2011, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 10, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
Div 1 result:

Aghagallon  2-13 0-15 Cargin    :o

must be a mistake . . .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 10, 2011, 11:26:46 PM
Aghagallon  2-13 0-15 Cargin  -some shock maybe wet night had something to do with it. Cargin suit a dry day with their pace. Cargin may have been missing a few but it's results like this and their weak temprement that will see them beat by Galls.

Ahoghill St. Marys  2-10 1-10 St Brigids  -Ahoghill may beat Creggan in championship. Brigids have gone backwards

St Johns  1-10 0-7 Creggan  -Having thought about it Johns for me are the only team capable of beating Galls due to their 4 giants. If they stuck 2 of these big men in at full forward and hammered ball into them early on i think they could get goals and then it would be a case of hanging on. Getting ahead of St Galls in the ONLY way to beat them. Creggan have gone backwards (or stood still) too

Lamh Dhearg  1-6 0-10 St Galls  -Wet night in league-Galls did what they had to and kept opposition to 6 points, mostly from frees

Rasharkin  0-14 2-8 Moneyglass  Rasharkin did well to get a point after the weekend's humiliation. Moneyglass are hit and miss and generally dont travel well so would be happy enough with the point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: intheknow11 on August 11, 2011, 04:10:48 PM
Cargin missing 4 from sundays game, were 10 up at ht when they replaced gerard o boyle, scullion, crozier, close and james laverty. After a few unforced errors they then found themselves in a game which they had no interest in.(thats how it looked anyway) Championship on there minds??!! We'l have to wait and see :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2011, 05:31:52 PM
Of course it is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 13, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/14507655.stm

?  Is he now an employee of BBC Sport or is this a once off ?

Last time i checked i thought McGourty was going to be a politician - I'm guessing he wisely had a rethink after Fianna fail's disastrous showing at the last general election.

Before that i think he was going to try his hand at a legal career.

The man should be a careers teacher if you ask me ...

Is he back playing ball now ? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2011, 10:11:32 AM
Any upsets this weekend? Cargin seem to have the biggest hurdle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Past It on August 16, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
Any of you st galls men know how many men you can have in the panel for kilmacud 7's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2011, 12:38:32 AM
Only ten!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 03:14:36 PM
Christ this thread is some craic!!

St Johns are 1/2 to beat St Brigids think that's not bad value considering St Johns will have improved from last year and playing good football this year by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 19, 2011, 03:20:54 PM
I think it's pretty awful value. The 15/8 on St Brigids is slightly tempting me. I do think St Johns will sneak it, but certainly wouldn't trust them at 1/2.

St Johns v St Brigids - Johnnies by 2
Moneyglass v St Galls - Galls by 9
Cargin v Lamh Dearg - Cargin by 7
Creggan v Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 03:25:31 PM
You think Cargin will beat Lamhs by that much? I think they will give Cargin a great game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 19, 2011, 03:38:03 PM
Aye, I just think Cargin are too cute for them. It might be a year or two too early for Lamhs to challenge. Cargin looked impressive v Rasharkin, they move the ball very fast. Anyone else fancy predictions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
St Johns v St Brigids - Johnnies by 2
Moneyglass v St Galls - Galls by 7
Cargin v Lamh Dearg - Cargin by 4
Creggan v Ahoghill - Creggan by 4

Mostly pretty predictable these games unfortunately.

If Cargin are to be challenging Galls they need to be winning easy but I don't think they will.

Wouldn't have though Ahoghill would be challenging Creggan though I suppose you never know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
St Johns v St Brigids - Johnnies by 2
Moneyglass v St Galls - Galls by 7
Cargin v Lamh Dearg - Cargin by 4
Creggan v Ahoghill - Creggan by 4

Mostly pretty predictable these games unfortunately.

If Cargin are to be challenging Galls they need to be winning easy but I don't think they will.

Wouldn't have though Ahoghill would be challenging Creggan though I suppose you never know.

On the Cargin,St Johns and Creggan predictions, 20 quid will get a return of £60

But I think a draw in the Creggan game is the bet for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 19, 2011, 04:09:54 PM
Decent shout, tonight could well be a draw as well I reckon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 09:27:22 PM
Any score form the Johnnies game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on August 19, 2011, 09:34:57 PM
St Brigids by 2 with 5 mins to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
Big shock then, should we win on Sunday then its St Brigids. be a decent game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on August 19, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
st brigids won by a point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
That's probably st brigids biggest ever result.(While they have been in the semis before not sure they have beat any of the "big guns"...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 10:31:04 PM
0-9 to 0-8!!

Seriously low scoring game!! St Johns back to the drawing board, again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 19, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Big shock tonight in sfc, disappointed as feel Johnnies are th only team that can really put it up to st galls!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on August 19, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Big shock tonight in sfc, disappointed as feel Johnnies are th only team that can really put it up to st galls!

Are people really fed up with St Galls winning the Championship?

St Johns will be very disappointed i hope they weren't fixed on playing us before we'd played our game and they won theirs!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 20, 2011, 10:09:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: Joxer_man on August 19, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Big shock tonight in sfc, disappointed as feel Johnnies are th only team that can really put it up to st galls!
I would love to know why because they were clean shite last night. They haven't a forward worth 2d. Put it up to St. Galls, my hole.

True. They are shite, clean shite. Bam is the only half a forward they have and even with that i'm not sure.

They held the ball too long before releasing it into their forwards but then again they had no forwards to hit. They're a big physical team around the middle who may count on a wee pitch but not  in Casement. In saying that alot of their players are only wee boys, not senior footballers.

Brigids were a lot more composed with better footballers around the middle and really should have won the game by alot more only for poor shooting and a poor ref.  Brigids were relying on a few individuals up front to score and would need to address that immedietely to come with 10/15 points of St Galls.

9-8--game didnt bode well for Antrim Football -i'm sure the Baker wasnt too excited about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 20, 2011, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 20, 2011, 10:09:03 AM
9-8--game didnt bode well for Antrim Football -i'm sure the Baker wasnt too excited about it.

The sad thing for Antrim football last night is that St Johns are (genuinely) a top 4 team. But they are pure shite. Poor Antrim.

The funniest (and second sadest) thing is that St John's and Antrim referees don't seem to even know the basic rules of Gaelic Football. A St John's player took a sideline ball under the stand. He kicked it down the line and it never crossed into play. The St John's bench and team shouted in unison "Never in!". The referee agreed and under FIFA rule 4.23, allowed the sideline to be retaken. That, along with with all the calls of "10 yards, ref!" throughout the game must have had Roger Casement turning in his grave. Oh well, plenty of time now to watch Celtic in the club bar...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 20, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
Big shock then, should we win on Sunday then its St Brigids. be a decent game

There's Kerry 'cute hoorism' and then there is that stuff MR2...if Brigids come within ten points of St Galls I'll eat my hat. With their usual league "team" out they appear to have hammered Brigids twice already this year and that will not change. Fact.

Took a spin up to Casement last night. Thankfully I've no allegiance to either team as they were both dire, thankfully for Brigids they were just 1 point less dire than St Johns. Whether the Johnnies had thought it was a foregone conclusion I'm not sure but hey just didn't turn up. As said Brigids will be happy to get into a semi beating a 'decent' team but that'll be as far as they go.

Saw that as well re the Johnnies man not kicking the ball into play and was never sure on that rule?! With the new rule of kicking the ball behind the line surely there is some merit to it never having gone into play?!
And what do you mean about the ten yards?? As in a player should be away from a free or that the ball should be brought forward?!

Anyhow Galls to beat Cargin in the final by 7. Away to the hurling board to talk about something competitive...!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 20, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Saw that as well re the Johnnies man not kicking the ball into play and was never sure on that rule?! With the new rule of kicking the ball behind the line surely there is some merit to it never having gone into play?!

The sideline kick has been taken - it doesn't matter where it goes. Sideline balls should always have been taken behind (or on) the line. Nothing has changed other than to clarify in the rules that there is no discretion to "take a few yards" (there never should have been) and there is now a specified penalty if you do. The ball was no more "in play" when a player used to (illegally) steal a few yards on a sideline ball than it is now when the ball has to be behind the line until kicked.

Don't know (nor care) what the history of the soccer "throw-in-never-in" rule is, but it never seemed right to me.

Quote
And what do you mean about the ten yards?? As in a player should be away from a free or that the ball should be brought forward?!

Jesus wept. BOTH! There is no "10 yard" specification in Gaelic. It is all 14 yards (13m). From the kick, from the hop ball, must travel, moved forward, etc. etc. But such is the ignorance of the general (but particularly urban) Gaelic watching and playing public, it is continually confused with the "10 yard" soccer specification. Which is as sad as it is embarassing.

Now, I am going to go out on a limb here and will probably be subject to a wiki-leaks type persecution, if not extradition, as a result, but some brave souls have published the (secret) playing rules here:
http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/official_guides/Official_Guide_2011_Part_2.pdf

It should be compulsory reading - particularly for all referees, TV commentators, and pundits!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 20, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
St Gall's to beat Moneyglass by 12 pulling up.
Cargin to beat Lamh Dhearg by 8.
Ahoghill to beat Creggan by 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 10:36:43 AM
Moneyglass v St Galls - Galls by 8 to 10 points.
Cargin v Lamh Dearg - Cargin by 8 to 10 points.
Creggan v Ahoghill - Creggan by 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 02:02:56 PM
4-18 to 1-6  min to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 02:02:56 PM
4-18 to 1-6  min to go

I couldn't help but notice that you didn't write who was 4-18 up.  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2011, 02:38:52 PM
Jesus they're getting better. I dont think they'd even peaked as a team yet in previous years which is frightening.

All main men about 26 -30 now. They could actually be at their peak and physically at their best now thinking about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 02:49:30 PM
Two in it to Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 21, 2011, 03:05:39 PM
Karl Stewart ran the show. Must have ended up with 2-4? How old is he?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
Big shock then, should we win on Sunday then its St Brigids. be a decent game

There's Kerry 'cute hoorism' and then there is that stuff MR2...if Brigids come within ten points of St Galls I'll eat my hat. With their usual league "team" out they appear to have hammered Brigids twice already this year and that will not change. Fact.

Took a spin up to Casement last night. Thankfully I've no allegiance to either team as they were both dire, thankfully for Brigids they were just 1 point less dire than St Johns. Whether the Johnnies had thought it was a foregone conclusion I'm not sure but hey just didn't turn up. As said Brigids will be happy to get into a semi beating a 'decent' team but that'll be as far as they go.

Saw that as well re the Johnnies man not kicking the ball into play and was never sure on that rule?! With the new rule of kicking the ball behind the line surely there is some merit to it never having gone into play?!
And what do you mean about the ten yards?? As in a player should be away from a free or that the ball should be brought forward?!

Anyhow Galls to beat Cargin in the final by 7. Away to the hurling board to talk about something competitive...!
Only three teams capable of winning that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 03:11:02 PM
Better than 1.
I wouldn't rule out Cargin just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 03:11:02 PM
Better than 1.
I wouldn't rule out Cargin just yet.
There is more chance of a rocking horse having a shite.
We'll see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:50:55 PM
Any score in the Cargin match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2011, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 03:11:02 PM
Better than 1.
I wouldn't rule out Cargin just yet.

I am officially ruling Cargin out, Lamh Dhearg beat them.

3-8 to 1-11, LD were 3 down with 5 to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
I'll stick to the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:56:44 PM
See my previous post HS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
f**k me Cargin are championship chokers.

Karl is 27/28 and is one of the best forwards in the county this last 9 years. I know his first love is hurling but he should give one year to the footballers and see how it goes. Class on the ball, strong, skilful, great ball winner and has the best left foot i've ever seen in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:58:20 PM
Rossa are no angels in that department either. Casting stones, kettle, pot black etc....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2011, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 21, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
f**k me Cargin are championship chokers.

Karl is 27/28 and is one of the best forwards in the county this last 9 years. I know his first love is hurling but he should give one year to the footballers and see how it goes. Class on the ball, strong, skilful, great ball winner and has the best left foot i've ever seen in Antrim

I thought he had been a sub in some of their bigger games in the last few years, could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
Been a long time hardstation. Too busy winning championships. You should try it sometime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 04:09:30 PM
What a last ten mins! 8 of which were injury time. Fights all over the place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 04:07:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
Been a long time hardstation. Too busy winning championships. You should try it sometime.
Yis were more busy losing championships, if Im not mistaken?



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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 04:14:30 PM
Seen the best goal ever at Casement!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2011, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 04:14:30 PM
Seen the best goal ever at Casement!
Yeah, what happened? Who scored it?

What way did the game go --annoyed i didnt go now --give a wee report on the game if you get a chance MR please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 04:18:07 PM
Seamroga, don't have me post up the results of the last rake of finals.
Sure put them all up, lets see who has more.

Sure, it's the last one that counts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 04:23:19 PM
I will when i get home. On phone at min. But dreadful until those last few mins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2011, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 04:23:19 PM
I will when i get home. On phone at min. But dreadful until those last few mins.

Good man cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:31:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 04:18:07 PM
Seamroga, don't have me post up the results of the last rake of finals.
Sure put them all up, lets see who has more.

Sure, it's the last one that counts.
Sure, yis only won one in about 20 years. Busy indeed.....
It was worth the wait. I was going to look for results between us this year but then I remembered.

Oops!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 04:33:34 PM
Ha ha...
;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 06:10:35 PM
Our game was over by halftime, 14 points up and in truth i don't think Moneyglass trained at all for this match. no a tackle nor any sort of tactic seemed to be employed.

Cargin game was going exactly same way, bar a first minute goal from Lamhs they looked uninterested and devoid of any passion, skill or belief that they could beat Cargin, with 5 minutes to go they were  down and seemed to be heading towards the changing rooms. Up to this point Cargin controlled the match and should have been twenty in front but the 6 point cushion was still plenty until a hail mary ball into the forward line was caught and the shot from Brendan Herron squeezed into the net, that left 3 in it with 2 minutes to go.

after an exchange of points the Cargin goalkeeper caught a ball 15 yards out from his line and tried to hit a 50 yard pass to Mick McCann, a Lamhs man (Murray i think) intercepted it and kicked the ball towards the net hoping to beat the keeper. This shot was beautifully hit and came off the cross bar and ended up in the net along with the goalkeeper. Best goal ever!!

After that it a couple of points each then Lamhs won a few balls and managed to hit 3 in a row to win. after that they all fought on the pitch, was some craic!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 21, 2011, 06:15:29 PM
Only 1 in football so it's 3 times more competitive which suits me.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
Big shock then, should we win on Sunday then its St Brigids. be a decent game

There's Kerry 'cute hoorism' and then there is that stuff MR2...if Brigids come within ten points of St Galls I'll eat my hat. With their usual league "team" out they appear to have hammered Brigids twice already this year and that will not change. Fact.

Took a spin up to Casement last night. Thankfully I've no allegiance to either team as they were both dire, thankfully for Brigids they were just 1 point less dire than St Johns. Whether the Johnnies had thought it was a foregone conclusion I'm not sure but hey just didn't turn up. As said Brigids will be happy to get into a semi beating a 'decent' team but that'll be as far as they go.

Saw that as well re the Johnnies man not kicking the ball into play and was never sure on that rule?! With the new rule of kicking the ball behind the line surely there is some merit to it never having gone into play?!
And what do you mean about the ten yards?? As in a player should be away from a free or that the ball should be brought forward?!

Anyhow Galls to beat Cargin in the final by 7. Away to the hurling board to talk about something competitive...!
Only three teams capable of winning that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 06:25:24 PM
Started in the stands when they were level!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 21, 2011, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 06:25:24 PM
Started in the stands when they were level!!

Cmon Milltown, give us a few more details?!?!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 21, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 06:25:24 PM
Started in the stands when they were level!!

Was Jerome Quinn there? Or was it being videod? If it was the CCC must demand a copy and punish all players (from both sides) and if possible supporters involved swiftly and strongly.

This stuff has no place in our sport(s)... none whatsoever.

I am glad I didn't take my wee man to the games today...nothing like that to put someone off for life.

A stand needs to be taken and quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2011, 07:01:06 PM
Fighting in the stands is nothing new for Lamh Dhearg supporters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
Was nearly as bad as St Pauls and Cargin a few years ago
(was it 12/13?) That will be another two teams having to look for another pitch!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2011, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
Was nearly as bad as St Pauls and Cargin a few years ago
(was it 12/13?) That will be another two teams having to look for another pitch!!

2000 i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 21, 2011, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 21, 2011, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
Was nearly as bad as St Pauls and Cargin a few years ago
(was it 12/13?) That will be another two teams having to look for another pitch!!

2000 i think.
It was. Antrim had beat Down earlier that year in the championship. Then after that row there was a massive fall-out that probably cost Antrim an All Ireland in 2001

;) OK Maybe not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
Here's my thoughts, for what it's worth.

I watched two games today and the standard was atrocious, Antrim football is crap. Hoofing the ball up the pitch and hoping to win a 50/50 ball is madness. The crazy thing is that the teams managed to play the ball out of defence and then they stopped, it was as if they ran into an invisible wall. The midfielders looked unfit and refused to work for the ball when they didn't have it. Let their men run by them and then tried to get them but too late. Didn't see any blocks at all, no support play from beyond midfield, it was depressing.

Cargin failed to capitalise on all their possession and even when they had it level late on didn't have the composure to win it ugly in the end, Tomas McCann missed a 21 yard free in front of the goals (had it went over i reckon the referee would have blown then) to level it late on. His balls literally dropped off and you could hear them from Milltown Row as they rolled down the hill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 21, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
Jesus Im sorry I missed this one from all accounts, Cargin doing what Cargin do best, however I believe that that the referee on this occasion must shoulder some of the responsibility (Not Blame) from what I understand and have heard, not dealing strongly with issues initially that began to break out, and stamping his authority on the game, he has a duty of control and should have issued cards when warranted. No wonder no-one invites Cargin to any tournaments who wants the hassle.

There will be no hiding though, wee Joe has it all on VT! Lets hope the CHC (Terrible and friends) has the balls to deal with what the CCC hand out, which should be substantial to both clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 21, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
Jesus Im sorry I missed this one from all accounts, Cargin doing what Cargin do best, however I believe that that the referee on this occasion must shoulder some of the responsibility (Not Blame) from what I understand and have heard, not dealing strongly with issues initially that began to break out, and stamping his authority on the game, he has a duty of control and should have issued cards when warranted. No wonder no-one invites Cargin to any tournaments who wants the hassle.

There will be no hiding though, wee Joe has it all on VT! Lets hope the CHC (Terrible and friends) has the balls to deal with what the CCC hand out, which should be substantial to both clubs.
::)

Were many of the Lamh Dhearg minor team from last year playing?

The standard of club football in antrim is absolutely woeful. St Galls only mess around and win the c'ship at a canter. Cargin should be so much better than they are too - must be very frustrating to be a cargin supporter.

I don't understand how the county team is now a lot more competitive than it was yet the club football is so much worse. I guess it says something for Baker and what he has done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 21, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
Jesus Im sorry I missed this one from all accounts, Cargin doing what Cargin do best, however I believe that that the referee on this occasion must shoulder some of the responsibility (Not Blame) from what I understand and have heard, not dealing strongly with issues initially that began to break out, and stamping his authority on the game, he has a duty of control and should have issued cards when warranted. No wonder no-one invites Cargin to any tournaments who wants the hassle.

There will be no hiding though, wee Joe has it all on VT! Lets hope the CHC (Terrible and friends) has the balls to deal with what the CCC hand out, which should be substantial to both clubs.
::)

Were many of the Lamh Dhearg minor team from last year playing?

The standard of club football in antrim is absolutely woeful. St Galls only mess around and win the c'ship at a canter. Cargin should be so much better than they are too - must be very frustrating to be a cargin supporter.

I don't understand how the county team is now a lot more competitive than it was yet the club football is so much worse. I guess it says something for Baker and what he has done.

Think there was two of the lads playing, the big midfielder was playing but in truth was rubbish and never touched the ball, the number 5 for Lamhs was a minor i think, very good just lacking experience but that will come with a few more games under his belt.

Yes I'd be so pissed off if i was a Cargin supporter also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 09:51:21 PM
It's a bit of a longer process to integrate good young midfielders into a senior team as it's so physical in there so plenty of time to come good yet.

The corner forward I'd thought would have been playing.

Are Creggan in semis? Creggan and Lamh Dhearg could be a tight enough game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 21, 2011, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
Here's my thoughts, for what it's worth.

I watched two games today and the standard was atrocious, Antrim football is crap. Hoofing the ball up the pitch and hoping to win a 50/50 ball is madness. The crazy thing is that the teams managed to play the ball out of defence and then they stopped, it was as if they ran into an invisible wall. The midfielders looked unfit and refused to work for the ball when they didn't have it. Let their men run by them and then tried to get them but too late. Didn't see any blocks at all, no support play from beyond midfield, it was depressing.

Cargin failed to capitalise on all their possession and even when they had it level late on didn't have the composure to win it ugly in the end, Tomas McCann missed a 21 yard free in front of the goals (had it went over i reckon the referee would have blown then) to level it late on. His balls literally dropped off and you could hear them from Milltown Row as they rolled down the hill

Literally?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 09:51:21 PM
It's a bit of a longer process to integrate good young midfielders into a senior team as it's so physical in there so plenty of time to come good yet.

The corner forward I'd thought would have been playing.

Are Creggan in semis? Creggan and Lamh Dhearg could be a tight enough game.

Creggan won handy. Would be tough alright for the young lad but he's a big physical lad already.

Just watching the games today were depressing, our lads were in Newry the other day playing Kilmacud Crokes in a challenge game (which they own) and what we got playing Moneyglass today was nothing, they had a decent FF but couldn't get the ball to him, their corner back was like a mammoth and looked well outta position.

Funny though and said this today to some of the lads, unless you finish off a team when you have the chance you could get caught like Cargin were today.

There you are, my wee stalker, kiss kiss
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:10:24 PM
Who was the full forward for Moneyglass i wonder?

Cargin can get caught but St Galls are too wylie for that.

Are McLean or/and CJ back yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
No O'Neill, McClean, and CJ came on late as a sub. The panel is very strong at the minute, 3 new lads got a run out  today and Seany Burns managed two scores when he came on for his 21st season!! Bloody Peter Pan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 21, 2011, 10:43:35 PM
Who were the 3 St Galls new lads?

Is O'Hare starting these days?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2011, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 09:51:21 PM
It's a bit of a longer process to integrate good young midfielders into a senior team as it's so physical in there so plenty of time to come good yet.

The corner forward I'd thought would have been playing.

Are Creggan in semis? Creggan and Lamh Dhearg could be a tight enough game.

Creggan won handy. Would be tough alright for the young lad but he's a big physical lad already.

Just watching the games today were depressing, our lads were in Newry the other day playing Kilmacud Crokes in a challenge game (which they own) and what we got playing Moneyglass today was nothing, they had a decent FF but couldn't get the ball to him, their corner back was like a mammoth and looked well outta position.

Funny though and said this today to some of the lads, unless you finish off a team when you have the chance you could get caught like Cargin were today.

There you are, my wee stalker, kiss kiss

which do the own, Kilmacud or Newry ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 11:43:20 PM
Sorry won ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 01:22:31 AM
Was Ryan Murray (minor) not playing corner forward for Lamh Dhearg and scored the opening goal?

Cargin were 7pts up with about 10 to go. They were comfortably 7pts the better team but got caught by 2 opportunistic (if a bit freakish) goals and then collapsed.

Lamhs first goal started with what looked like an intended pass from Cunningham from about 40m out. The Cargin fullback flapped at it and Brendan Herron caught it behind and bore down on goal. The Cargin keeper made a great save from his initial shot and then Herron fly-kicked the rebound and it was bundled over the line quite possibly off one of the fullbacks. The Cargin fullback had a good game but was badly caught out twice by Herron for goals (this and Ryan Murray's opener).

The second goal was as freakish as it was brilliant. The Cargin keeper gathered the ball off his line and tried a long delivery from about the 20m line. It went straight to Conor Murray behind the midfield. He burst forward while the keeper dithered. Murray had only one thing on his mind and let rip with a screamer from about 40m. It hit the net just under the crossbar as the keeper flapped at it. An absolutely brilliant goal. Murray was probably the most remarkable player on show - great Fielding and running - but that was possibly his only accurate kick all day! It was a shame for the keeper too, because he had been doing well, I thought.

That brought it level and Lynch scored a great point under pressure for Lamhs to go 1 up on the stroke of time. Cargin equalised with a soft free then in injury time. Game over we thought in the stand, but there was still time for Cunningham to take the lead again with a great outside-of-the-boot free from 45m (he had missed a few earlier in the game) and for Tomas McCann to miss off the upright at the other end after another soft "let's have a draw" free this time about 25m out a bit to the right of the posts. Lamhs then finally made the referee's mind up with 2 strong points to finish as Cargin collapsed.

Cargin were an absolute disgrace after the whistle. There was a running battle for 5 minutes or more. Subs and others jumped the fence. Not only is Antrim football shite it seems, but also ugly and brutal. And there's nothing as ugly as watching bad losers. Cargin are definitely number one at something in Antrim afterall. They threw away the game today and then their self-respect. Savages.

Will the Antrim CCC have the balls to deal with this properly? Not if they are as weak as the referees and linesmen they appointed that I witnessed in (in)action over this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 22, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 20, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Saw that as well re the Johnnies man not kicking the ball into play and was never sure on that rule?! With the new rule of kicking the ball behind the line surely there is some merit to it never having gone into play?!

The sideline kick has been taken - it doesn't matter where it goes. Sideline balls should always have been taken behind (or on) the line. Nothing has changed other than to clarify in the rules that there is no discretion to "take a few yards" (there never should have been) and there is now a specified penalty if you do. The ball was no more "in play" when a player used to (illegally) steal a few yards on a sideline ball than it is now when the ball has to be behind the line until kicked.

Don't know (nor care) what the history of the soccer "throw-in-never-in" rule is, but it never seemed right to me.

Quote
And what do you mean about the ten yards?? As in a player should be away from a free or that the ball should be brought forward?!

Jesus wept. BOTH! There is no "10 yard" specification in Gaelic. It is all 14 yards (13m). From the kick, from the hop ball, must travel, moved forward, etc. etc. But such is the ignorance of the general (but particularly urban) Gaelic watching and playing public, it is continually confused with the "10 yard" soccer specification. Which is as sad as it is embarassing.

Now, I am going to go out on a limb here and will probably be subject to a wiki-leaks type persecution, if not extradition, as a result, but some brave souls have published the (secret) playing rules here:
http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/official_guides/Official_Guide_2011_Part_2.pdf

It should be compulsory reading - particularly for all referees, TV commentators, and pundits!

Sidelines
What happens then if the ball does not go into play?
Possession goes to the other team?

"10 yards"
Just a bit of pedantry from you there then... The yard rule applies but its 14 insead of 10.
I'm with the Johnnies subs on this one...a fair few of them were man mountains so probably best to take their side on this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on August 22, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
So that's why Cargin have a boxing club in their club grounds?  ;D

The Erin's Own motto is "We'll win or we'll beat youse".

Maybe it wasn't all St Paul's fault all those years ago  :o

But the big question is, will the big names get the beating they deserve from the committee men or will the subs and old boys be the fall guys?

I saw with my own two eyes, one county man floor the Lamh Derg fullback as he offered his hand after the match. And then he skulked around in front of the stand while all hell broke loose behind him.

Smile, you're on candid camera  ***k ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 22, 2011, 10:26:48 AM
Christ there are some dicks in this thread. Absolutely clueless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
cracking first post  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 22, 2011, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 01:22:31 AM
Was Ryan Murray (minor) not playing corner forward for Lamh Dhearg and scored the opening goal?

Cargin were 7pts up with about 10 to go. They were comfortably 7pts the better team but got caught by 2 opportunistic (if a bit freakish) goals and then collapsed.

Lamhs first goal started with what looked like an intended pass from Cunningham from about 40m out. The Cargin fullback flapped at it and Brendan Herron caught it behind and bore down on goal. The Cargin keeper made a great save from his initial shot and then Herron fly-kicked the rebound and it was bundled over the line quite possibly off one of the fullbacks. The Cargin fullback had a good game but was badly caught out twice by Herron for goals (this and Ryan Murray's opener).

The second goal was as freakish as it was brilliant. The Cargin keeper gathered the ball off his line and tried a long delivery from about the 20m line. It went straight to Conor Murray behind the midfield. He burst forward while the keeper dithered. Murray had only one thing on his mind and let rip with a screamer from about 40m. It hit the net just under the crossbar as the keeper flapped at it. An absolutely brilliant goal. Murray was probably the most remarkable player on show - great Fielding and running - but that was possibly his only accurate kick all day! It was a shame for the keeper too, because he had been doing well, I thought.

That brought it level and Lynch scored a great point under pressure for Lamhs to go 1 up on the stroke of time. Cargin equalised with a soft free then in injury time. Game over we thought in the stand, but there was still time for Cunningham to take the lead again with a great outside-of-the-boot free from 45m (he had missed a few earlier in the game) and for Tomas McCann to miss off the upright at the other end after another soft "let's have a draw" free this time about 25m out a bit to the right of the posts. Lamhs then finally made the referee's mind up with 2 strong points to finish as Cargin collapsed.

Cargin were an absolute disgrace after the whistle. There was a running battle for 5 minutes or more. Subs and others jumped the fence. Not only is Antrim football shite it seems, but also ugly and brutal. And there's nothing as ugly as watching bad losers. Cargin are definitely number one at something in Antrim afterall. They threw away the game today and then their self-respect. Savages.

Will the Antrim CCC have the balls to deal with this properly? Not if they are as weak as the referees and linesmen they appointed that I witnessed in (in)action over this weekend.

Why would the CCC be appointing Referees / Linesmen?  Take a breath man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2011, 11:47:38 AM
Quote from: aontroim on August 22, 2011, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 01:22:31 AM
Was Ryan Murray (minor) not playing corner forward for Lamh Dhearg and scored the opening goal?

Cargin were 7pts up with about 10 to go. They were comfortably 7pts the better team but got caught by 2 opportunistic (if a bit freakish) goals and then collapsed.

Lamhs first goal started with what looked like an intended pass from Cunningham from about 40m out. The Cargin fullback flapped at it and Brendan Herron caught it behind and bore down on goal. The Cargin keeper made a great save from his initial shot and then Herron fly-kicked the rebound and it was bundled over the line quite possibly off one of the fullbacks. The Cargin fullback had a good game but was badly caught out twice by Herron for goals (this and Ryan Murray's opener).

The second goal was as freakish as it was brilliant. The Cargin keeper gathered the ball off his line and tried a long delivery from about the 20m line. It went straight to Conor Murray behind the midfield. He burst forward while the keeper dithered. Murray had only one thing on his mind and let rip with a screamer from about 40m. It hit the net just under the crossbar as the keeper flapped at it. An absolutely brilliant goal. Murray was probably the most remarkable player on show - great Fielding and running - but that was possibly his only accurate kick all day! It was a shame for the keeper too, because he had been doing well, I thought.

That brought it level and Lynch scored a great point under pressure for Lamhs to go 1 up on the stroke of time. Cargin equalised with a soft free then in injury time. Game over we thought in the stand, but there was still time for Cunningham to take the lead again with a great outside-of-the-boot free from 45m (he had missed a few earlier in the game) and for Tomas McCann to miss off the upright at the other end after another soft "let's have a draw" free this time about 25m out a bit to the right of the posts. Lamhs then finally made the referee's mind up with 2 strong points to finish as Cargin collapsed.

Cargin were an absolute disgrace after the whistle. There was a running battle for 5 minutes or more. Subs and others jumped the fence. Not only is Antrim football shite it seems, but also ugly and brutal. And there's nothing as ugly as watching bad losers. Cargin are definitely number one at something in Antrim afterall. They threw away the game today and then their self-respect. Savages.

Will the Antrim CCC have the balls to deal with this properly? Not if they are as weak as the referees and linesmen they appointed that I witnessed in (in)action over this weekend.

Why would the CCC be appointing Referees / Linesmen?  Take a breath man.

Well said aontroim, obviously not experienced in the admin of the county, and to qualify his comments, the Referee has the final say as to the actions he takes no matter what is reported to him, i.e. The incidents may be reported as Red Cards, he may not decide to take the direction that has been given from the support team of officials, and it is my understanding that this occurred a number of times at the game in question. He has the right to act or ignore as he see's fit, which can be an awkward situation to say the least all things considered. In short does he have the balls or not!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 22, 2011, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 01:22:31 AM
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Will the Antrim CCC have the balls to deal with this properly? Not if they are as weak as the referees and linesmen they appointed that I witnessed in (in)action over this weekend.

Why would the CCC be appointing Referees / Linesmen?  Take a breath man.

<breath> Fair enough - sloppy writing from me. Yeah, I know CCC don't appoint referees.

In the few matches I've seen in Antrim over the years, the refereeing seems weak. Now I know it's no easy job when you are on your own in the backend of nowhere in a hostile environment, but in Casement with 6 other on-pitch officials and numerous board officials in the stands (not to mention video cameras)?  ???

Maybe the linesmen were miked up? but they didn't seem to want to get involved?

I was just raising the question if Antrim are weak from the top down when it comes to matters of discipline? What was the outcome of the much publicised head-butt on the referee in the Sarsfields match a while ago for instance?

(as an aside, of the 3 championship matches I watched at Casement over the weekend, the referee in the St Gall's v Moneyglass match seemed the most competent/authoritive - would that be a fair first assessment?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2011, 01:20:52 PM
OTPAW I still think your missing the point, and would suggest you read the rule book on duties of a linesman and umpire! Then a fair assessment would be to then question the Referees appointment committee, and the lack of direction, education, support and finance from the county to the group of lads who actually do step up to the mark and those who don't! We have probably maybe 10-12 good referees in the county across both codes, the rest need direction to say the least. So i summing up I agree it should be a top down approach, if you want to improve something it needs time, commitment, support and finance, something our county secretary would know little about, unless there's a deal to be done of course :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 22, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
Sidelines
What happens then if the ball does not go into play?
Possession goes to the other team?

What would have happened before when the ball was (illegally) taken from infield and went over the sideline? It was always regarded as a sideline to the other team in my experience?

I am not a hurling man, but presumably this is what would happen with a sideline cut? (i.e. the sliother is regarded as being in play once it is struck?). Although a sideline cut going straight down (and behind) the line would be pretty rare I would imagine!

My view is that, the ball should be deemed to have been taken from the point on the line where it originally crossed, even if actually struck behind this. Technically, a sideline ball should be taken from exactly the point on the line where it crossed but as it is not taken from the ground, and the prevailing discretion was being abused, the authorities sought to clarify what can't  be done. I agree that they failed to specify exactly when and where the ball should be regarded as in play but that ambiguity always existed. Regardless, there is no provision in Gaelic for the sideline to be retaken (or any kick for that matter from the same spot other than a penalty). The current rules specify that the kick for a sideline must be executed behind the line. Surely, as with every other free kick (in its loosest definition), the game restarts the moment the ball is kicked regardless of where it goes?

Any referees care to put their tuppence worth in? ManInBlackandGreen?

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"10 yards"
Just a bit of pedantry from you there then... The yard rule applies but its 14 insead of 10.

No problem with a "yard rule" being applied or called for. But if expecting Gaelic players not to show their ignorance of their own sport by continually confusing a gaelic rule with one from another sport, then I am happy to be a pedant. I was just relieved that St John's didn't vocally dispute the "offside" awarded against them when one of their players went into the "wee penalty box" before the ball in the 2nd half  ;)

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I'm with the Johnnies subs on this one...a fair few of them were man mountains so probably best to take their side on this.

You should take up refereeing in Antrim then - you'd fit right in  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2011, 01:20:52 PM
OTPAW I still think your missing the point, and would suggest you read the rule book on duties of a linesman and umpire! Then a fair assessment would be to then question the Referees appointment committee, and the lack of direction, education, support and finance from the county to the group of lads who actually do step up to the mark and those who don't! We have probably maybe 10-12 good referees in the county across both codes, the rest need direction to say the least. So i summing up I agree it should be a top down approach, if you want to improve something it needs time, commitment, support and finance, something our county secretary would know little about, unless there's a deal to be done of course :'(

But I have  ;)

3.1 DUTIES OF THE LINESMEN
(v) The Linesmen shall bring to the attention
of the referee, during a break in play, any
instances of foul play, in particular rough or
dangerous play, striking, hitting, or kicking, or
unauthorised incursions onto the field of play,
which have not been noticed by the Referee.

I witnessed one incident in particular in the Lamh Dhearg match involving knees that was verging on dangerous play (and I am not even talking about the incident involving the Cargin goalkeeper). It happened "on the ball" in a crowd of players on the sideline below the stand. The referee was almost definitely blindsided but the linesman almost definitely wasn't. It happened no more than 2 yards in front of him in his line of sight but he never flinched. Never looked to the referee to see if he saw it. In short, it looked like he didn't want to know. Now, maybe he was miked up? But he must have the skills of a master ventriloquist if he managed to communicate unnoticed with the referee in this instance. There were plenty of other examples over the weekend where I got the impression that the linesmen were just happy to call the line balls and to not actually be seen to assist the referee in controlling the match. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe the referees did notice everything and the linesmen therefore weren't required to intervene?   ::)

Anyway, I am not meaning to just have a pop at referees for the sake of it, but unless referees and their assistants are strong, firm, and consistant with the rules regarding rough play in particular, ill-discipline will just get worse and their (already difficult) jobs harder as a result.

Two examples from the St John's and Lamh Dhearg matches. In both, a player was rugby tackled to the ground in a "professional" foul to buy time/prevent a goal. Both tackles were ugly but neither were in my view dangerous. Nothing remarkable there. The "victims" both reacted in clear view of the referee and nearest linesman. One swung his arm back and struck, the other threw the ball at (and hit) the head of his assailant. The unambiguous penalty for these (re)actions is a red/yellow card and at the very least a hop ball. Both foulers were (correctly) yellow carded and nothing else was done. The laws of "natural justice" were allowed to prevail rather than those specified explicitly in the rule book. The problem with referees doing that is that they are (maybe literally) making a rod for their own backs? In both cases, I thought the referees bottled it. Probably not unique to Antrim but on my occasional visits, it seems pretty ingrained there?

As I say, I would understand it in a league match in the backend of nowhere, but if Antrim referees are not happy to make these sorts of calls in championship quarter-finals played at the County's headquarters then I would have to question the County's commitment to supporting referees in the county, particularly regarding matters of (ill)discipline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 22, 2011, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 22, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
Sidelines
What happens then if the ball does not go into play?
Possession goes to the other team?

What would have happened before when the ball was (illegally) taken from infield and went over the sideline? It was always regarded as a sideline to the other team in my experience?

I am not a hurling man, but presumably this is what would happen with a sideline cut? (i.e. the sliother is regarded as being in play once it is struck?). Although a sideline cut going straight down (and behind) the line would be pretty rare I would imagine!

My view is that, the ball should be deemed to have been taken from the point on the line where it originally crossed, even if actually struck behind this. Technically, a sideline ball should be taken from exactly the point on the line where it crossed but as it is not taken from the ground, and the prevailing discretion was being abused, the authorities sought to clarify what can't  be done. I agree that they failed to specify exactly when and where the ball should be regarded as in play but that ambiguity always existed. Regardless, there is no provision in Gaelic for the sideline to be retaken (or any kick for that matter from the same spot other than a penalty). The current rules specify that the kick for a sideline must be executed behind the line. Surely, as with every other free kick (in its loosest definition), the game restarts the moment the ball is kicked regardless of where it goes?

Any referees care to put their tuppence worth in? ManInBlackandGreen?

Quote
"10 yards"
Just a bit of pedantry from you there then... The yard rule applies but its 14 insead of 10.

No problem with a "yard rule" being applied or called for. But if expecting Gaelic players not to show their ignorance of their own sport by continually confusing a gaelic rule with one from another sport, then I am happy to be a pedant. I was just relieved that St John's didn't vocally dispute the "offside" awarded against them when one of their players went into the "wee penalty box" before the ball in the 2nd half  ;)

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I'm with the Johnnies subs on this one...a fair few of them were man mountains so probably best to take their side on this.

You should take up refereeing in Antrim then - you'd fit right in  ;D
I don't think the yards thing is anything to do with any other sport, what port has a 10 yard ruling? I think it's more to with the old measurements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 22, 2011, 03:59:52 PM
I don't think the yards thing is anything to do with any other sport, what port has a 10 yard ruling? I think it's more to with the old measurements.

You're obviously not from West Belfast then  ;)

Ever heard of soccer? It's a sort of ground gaelic...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
Of the two cases yesterday Raymond Doone was ok, give Moneyglass a couple of handy frees i thought near the end but was consistant. Maybe not up with play a lot but fitter than most refereeing at this time.

The second referee was doing ok until the game started to get tight (last 4 minutes, last 8 of injury!!) there was a few off the ball stuff, nothing of real note till the end. I saw at least two deliberate strikes and if the referee didn't see it  I definitely seen both lines men call the referee over and consult him, it is then down to the referee to either dish out a red or yellow card depending on his own judgement.

OverThePostsAWide  you said you never seen the linesmen doing anything but i clearly seen them call him over

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 04:58:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
Of the two cases yesterday Raymond Doone was ok, give Moneyglass a couple of handy frees i thought near the end but was consistant. Maybe not up with play a lot but fitter than most refereeing at this time.

The second referee was doing ok until the game started to get tight (last 4 minutes, last 8 of injury!!) there was a few off the ball stuff, nothing of real note till the end. I saw at least two deliberate strikes and if the referee didn't see it  I definitely seen both lines men call the referee over and consult him, it is then down to the referee to either dish out a red or yellow card depending on his own judgement.

OverThePostsAWide  you said you never seen the linesmen doing anything but i clearly seen them call him over

Fair enough. Happy to be corrected.

I presume you didn't mean to say Doone for your match? He was refereeing the second match wasn't he?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 05:16:38 PM
Yes, my mistake
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on August 22, 2011, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
No O'Neill, McClean, and CJ came on late as a sub. The panel is very strong at the minute, 3 new lads got a run out  today and Seany Burns managed two scores when he came on for his 21st season!! Bloody Peter Pan

Was he hit off the ball too?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on August 22, 2011, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 21, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
There will be no hiding though, wee Joe has it all on VT! Lets hope the CHC (Terrible and friends) has the balls to deal with what the CCC hand out, which should be substantial to both clubs.

Who is wee Joe and what does CHC (Terrible and friends) mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 22, 2011, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: rogueryhill on August 22, 2011, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
No O'Neill, McClean, and CJ came on late as a sub. The panel is very strong at the minute, 3 new lads got a run out  today and Seany Burns managed two scores when he came on for his 21st season!! Bloody Peter Pan

Was he hit off the ball too?  ;D

At least the Cargin men had a bit of 'fight' in them - unlike Moneyglass  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on August 22, 2011, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 22, 2011, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: rogueryhill on August 22, 2011, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
No O'Neill, McClean, and CJ came on late as a sub. The panel is very strong at the minute, 3 new lads got a run out  today and Seany Burns managed two scores when he came on for his 21st season!! Bloody Peter Pan

Was he hit off the ball too?  ;D

At least the Cargin men had a bit of 'fight' in them - unlike Moneyglass  ;)

Ur right there. With all those boxing medals and a couple of reserve championships, you are the envy of every club in Antrim  ;D ;D ;D

Except maybe St Gall's. Moneyglass gave them a couple of sly digs and late tackles and what did St Gall's do? Nadda! They just put the ball down and played on. They're just pure yella and will win nothin playing like that.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 22, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
Are there any highlights of yesterdays games available?

was jerome quinn in attendance with his video camera?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 22, 2011, 07:39:40 PM
Gregory Walsh is best ref by a mile. A nice fella with no chip on his shoulder or unjust hatred of any team.

Any time i've seen him he calls the game fair, which is all any team wants but unfortunetly the exception, rather than the rule.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 07:56:01 PM
Antrim Div 1 Football Fixtures
St Galls  Cargin  St. Galls 24/08/2011 19:30 Brendan Toland Round 16

Was this the fixture last year when CJ and Niblock took a half each in goals and Gallagher played FF?

Will it be played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 08:09:48 PM
Why not? We have a reserve hurling championship that night. Christ knows where it will be played as we are homeless!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 08:09:48 PM
Why not? We have a reserve hurling championship that night. Christ knows where it will be played as we are homeless!!

A mate of mine - who claims he knows about these things - says that St Gall's rarely play Cargin a second time in the league as between them they usually find some excuse to put it off while they focus on championship and then by the time it comes round to be played, the league has been decided and it's not played. Probably an exaggeration, but they'll not be much appetite now from Cargin to make the long midweek journey up to play the "final that never was"!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 08:56:12 PM
Well if we beat them we can go top of the league and win it!!

Would be great for training for the rest of the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
Steady on MR. You don't want to overreach yourselves  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on August 22, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
Steady on MR. You don't want to overreach yourselves  ;D

Aye we haven't won the league in a while so would be nice to have it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 24, 2011, 12:56:27 PM
Is the St.Galls v Cargin game still on tonight and where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 24, 2011, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 24, 2011, 12:56:27 PM
Is the St.Galls v Cargin game still on tonight and where?

St Galls v Cargin    Sarsfields   24/08/2011   19:30   Brendan Toland   Round 16
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on August 24, 2011, 10:57:15 PM
So were peoples predictions at the beginning of the year accurate then regarding promotions and relegations?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 25, 2011, 01:15:51 PM
St Galls  4-7 1-12 Cargin  Sarsfields Round 16 
Creggan  3-14 1-7 Moneyglass  Creggan Round 16 
St Brigids  1-5 2-15 Rasharkin  St. Brigids Round 16 
Aghagallon  2-11 0-14 Lamh Dhearg  Aghagallon Round 16

Usual mixture of turn-ups in the end-of-season/post-championship rounds.

Are St Gall's going to win their first league title in God knows how many years?
That's a tanking for St Brigid's going into championship against St Gall's - they must have been resting a pile.
Good result for Aghagallon - they have their tails up.
Moneyglass are in diffs - the result of their matches against Aghagallon and Ahoghill will be crucial for their survival.
Relegation is a 3-way fight between them.

Any word on how the Ahoghill v St John's match went last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Heard that Lamhs couldn't play certain players who might get suspended due to the battle of Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 25, 2011, 11:57:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Heard that Lamhs couldn't play certain players who might get suspended due to the battle of Casement.

Surely if nobody was sent off they'd be ok to play until told otherwise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2011, 08:00:05 AM
Of course but if they are suspended at a later date that suspension will start from their last game!! So they would miss the final, should they get there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on August 26, 2011, 09:02:41 AM
Joe Brolly/Fergal Logan/Perry Mason will be busy then!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 26, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
johnnies wer beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on August 26, 2011, 01:45:07 PM

Anyone hear of any times/dates/venues for the football championships yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 26, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Heard that Lamhs couldn't play certain players who might get suspended due to the battle of Casement.

what players are up for suspension?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2011, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 26, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Heard that Lamhs couldn't play certain players who might get suspended due to the battle of Casement.

what players are up for suspension?

Not sure, but the referee walked off the pitch at the end, was told to stay to identify players involved in the handbags, refused and walked off!! I hear that the lines men will be making a report on how things panned out.

This will not get sorted before the final me thinks!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 30, 2011, 12:36:15 AM
They can go through whatever reports or enquiries they want, not gonna stop st galls winning c'ship for the 5th yr running!! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on August 30, 2011, 12:37:48 AM
Fancy aldergrove to overturn ballymena in th ifc this week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 01, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
What's the fallout been from the Cargin-Lamh Dhearg Fight Night? Anybody heard anything?
Will it affect Lamh's preparations for Friday night?

Lamh's by 6
Gall's by 66 12
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 01, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
What's the fallout been from the Cargin-Lamh Dhearg Fight Night? Anybody heard anything?
Will it affect Lamh's preparations for Friday night?

Lamh's by 6
Gall's by 66 12

Our game will be a lot closer, If Lamh's have any suspensions then they will struggle. Up on till the last 5 minutes Lamh's were rubbish in fairness. So that game will be a lot closer

No double header either, seems that both games will be at Casement on different days!! Won't see them as I will be off to Dublin for a few drinks :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 02, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 01, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
What's the fallout been from the Cargin-Lamh Dhearg Fight Night? Anybody heard anything?
Will it affect Lamh's preparations for Friday night?

Lamh's by 6
Gall's by 66 12

Our game will be a lot closer, If Lamh's have any suspensions then they will struggle. Up on till the last 5 minutes Lamh's were rubbish in fairness. So that game will be a lot closer

No double header either, seems that both games will be at Casement on different days!! Won't see them as I will be off to Dublin for a few drinks :P

LD by 2 (tight game though--goals/ref etc could make the game end up either going way)
Gall's by 12 (or how many they fancy winning by--fancy them to go ahead early then just mess about and do enough to win. Fancy them to do the same in the final)

Anywhere you can bet on the games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Paddy Power doing all the games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
Fair play Lamhs, i was nearly going to have a punt on Creggan. All Belfast final then.

On another note, well done to our Ladies, they beat St Pauls (first time in Championship) in the very first Senior Ladies football final tonight, cracking game which went right down to the wire
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: Clinker on September 02, 2011, 07:48:18 PM
Finished.  Aggies 1-09  Airy Ogs 1-07

Wrong

Eire Og 1-09 St Agnes 1-07
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 03, 2011, 12:35:06 PM
Any notable absentees on the Lamh's team last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 04, 2011, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
LD by 2 (tight game though--goals/ref etc could make the game end up either going way)
Gall's by 12 (or how many they fancy winning by--fancy them to go ahead early then just mess about and do enough to win. Fancy them to do the same in the final)

Anywhere you can bet on the games?

Lamh Dhearg  0-11 0-9 Creggan
St Galls  0-19 1-6 St Brigids

Not far off there Gold! Hope you got your bets on.

Another duck-shoot for St Gall's it seems. Who showed well for them this time out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 04, 2011, 01:34:58 PM
http://vimeo.com/28558109 - it seems everyone was on form, young pollock looks like he's playing well
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Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 04, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
a wee word of congrats to my old team mates in Casements. Portglenone on getting to the Intermediate final. Looking forward to a day out now, and hopefully a celebration in the evening. An oul boy like me needs a reason to get out nowadays, so big Marty, Tony, Owen and the rest, dont let me down !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on September 05, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
hope moneyglass stay up they are a far better team than the table shows ;
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on September 06, 2011, 09:04:28 AM
I know what you mean, but I am sure Ahoghill and Aghagallon feel the same!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on September 09, 2011, 08:19:46 PM
aye but the blues are the best by far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2011, 08:18:34 PM
Well no craic on here at all!!

The final against Lamhs should have a bit of bite about it, the two teams don't really have much like for each other (understatement ;D) Like us Lamhs have been hampered by their hurling team.

Fair dues to them winning the championship at the weekend and I believe they are out next weekend also in the Ulster Championship. Could be a drain on their preparations leading up to the Senior football final.

With us now, eventually out of the hurling, Lenny will have the lads training hard for the game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Should be handy for St Galls but you'd like to think that LD would give them a bit of a go.  But the slick galls men will have way too much for them. 

LD and St Galls have been in some finals over the years with each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on September 14, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
Have to fancy st galls for the football again lamb dhearg will put it up to them apart from their county boys, they arent any great shakes, the last two games i have seen st galls look very fit and with the talented team/squad they have should come through this one. Hope its a close final instead of the last few were they have blew cargin away.

Lambs maybe concentrate on intermediate hurling and try and win an ulster title?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 14, 2011, 09:17:25 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Should be handy for St Galls but you'd like to think that LD would give them a bit of a go.  But the slick galls men will have way too much for them. 

LD and St Galls have been in some finals over the years with each other.

But Galls have won them all handy at senior and u-21 so cant see LD believing this will be any different (although LD may have drawn one?)

I remember an u-21 final about 10 years ago when St Galls absolutely tanked LD scoring nearly 10 goals in the process
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
St Johns minor double tonight.

Thought Lamh Dhearg would have won this with all the county minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 16, 2011, 11:05:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
St Johns minor double tonight.

Thought Lamh Dhearg would have won this with all the county minors.
Holy Jesus! The whiterock huns will be hard to stick for a while now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 16, 2011, 11:10:32 PM
Fair fucks to them, deserved after hard work!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 19, 2011, 10:01:25 PM
What St Galls team went down to the 7's MR ??

How come they got such a tanking in QF?  (Although in 7's lose a couple of goals and the game can be over over)

St Johns got bait in all games again this year--no real classy footballers

Thought Cargin would've faired better as they'd have 7 good footballers --although the likes of Tony Scullion wouldnt be suited to it

Surprised St Brigids werent there this year after winning their group down there last year --another team with about 7 able footballers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2011, 10:07:41 PM
A very strong team went down Gold, they just got beat by Castlewellan who are a great sevens team themselves. They have beaten us a couple of times. I have always said that after the group stages it becomes a lottery.

It will suit them and rest them up for a hard bruising affair against Lamhs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 23, 2011, 11:23:04 AM
Think Galls are in for a bit of a test tomorrow night.
Reckon Lamhs will be well up for it.
There is no doubt that if galls are allowed to play it will be game over.

Anyone any insight into lamhs gameplan??? or will it just be as Hands said in the irish news - hope the have a poor game :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 23, 2011, 11:41:57 AM
seen what you did there hard man, seen that.

I hope its competitive - it needs to be, because the football county championship is becoming a joke!
StGalls will be trying to get into another county if it keeps going like this!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Lamhs have nothing to lose, beat a very good Cargin team, why shouldnt they believe?? Held us to a draw one year! We've a few injuries i hear, Big PJ is out hurt his knee Lenny has pulled a hamstring and Frank Dawson has dislocated a finger!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on September 23, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Lamhs have nothing to lose, beat a very good Cargin team, why shouldnt they believe?? Held us to a draw one year! We've a few injuries i hear, Big PJ is out hurt his knee Lenny has pulled a hamstring and Frank Dawson has dislocated a finger!!

AHAA Quality MR7, you sound like a man who's ultra confident and rightly so, galls are gonna take LD to the cleaners!!! KS first goal heard it here first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 09:56:44 PM
Nervous about tomorrow, hope the lads don't get complacent about the game or be thinking about the Ulster Championship!! Tight game with late win for us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 10:33:14 PM
Ok HS I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass, if we lose it would be some shock, at 1/14 we should win, as you say by 12 pulling up. So us by 8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
Too early for odds for Ulster Championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 23, 2011, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 23, 2011, 11:41:57 AM
seen what you did there hard man, seen that.

I hope its competitive - it needs to be, because the football county championship is becoming a joke!
StGalls will be trying to get into another county if it keeps going like this!!!

has the county football cship not being a bit of a joke since 2001 apart from 2006 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
Not our fault, teams refusing to train as hard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 23, 2011, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
Not our fault, teams refusing to train as hard

yeah, thats ballix, there isnt a team in antrim, or any team in Ireland who doesnt train their stones off. Nobody is saying Galls dont deserve any of their titles, they deserve every thing they have got over their 100+ years, but a bit disrespectful to the rest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:28:12 PM
Dammed if we do and dammed if we don't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:39:43 PM
Would swap them all for one hurling cup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 11:50:35 PM
HS Get behind me satan!

MR2 is on the right track forget that easy game  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2011, 04:41:30 PM
Maybe teams not training as hard is a bit harsh, possibly a bit disrespectful. I'll take that back

On the game i think Lamh's will play a extra man in defence and leave Brendan Herron and Paddy Cunningham up front on their own and hit hopeful balls into them. This worked well against Cargin (eventually) and it may keep the scoring down.

Murray would need to win the majority of balls in midfield to give them a chance, Micko usually plays better when playing against us and should do well in the halfback line.

If we win the 50/50 balls into defence then we should win, should Lamh's manage a goal or two then it could be tight. Paddy Power offering a handicap of -7 for St Galls

I'd say there are a right few teams out there looking us bate because we have won so many lately. Having not won any minor in a few years is not a recipe for failing at senior in a few years.

The average age on the team is about 27/28 and we have introduced a few new faces this year from the juvenile teams. We are still producing good teams, they aren't winning too much but there are good players who will feature on the senior team. You only need two or three players pushing every year on the senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 06:22:07 PM
If Cargin hadn't done the dirt on JC maybe, just maybe mind, they might have had something going over there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 24, 2011, 07:31:42 PM
I think Micko just felt Pollock's Bollocks.

CJ has a right and big arse on him.

How is this so close?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
Not a great game and our season could be over after that performance.

Credit with Lamhs who had a punchers chance up to the end. The Armagh champions won't have too much to worry about if we play like that again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2011, 10:52:12 PM
Should have won the match in the first half had we taken our goal chances, Lamh's played a lot better than they did against Cargin in fairness.

As long as we continue to allow teams that chance then we won't do well against the top teams. Though hats off to the lads, they have put some run in and it's a credit to the effort over the years. Ya's may build that gate Hardstation, at least another 3/4 wins in that team. Sean burns lifted his 13 medal tonight also!!

Best for Lamh's, the minors had great games, great potential. Where we in control? Yeah maybe but not convincing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2011, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2011, 10:59:08 PM
Good stuff and well done. Go out and get hammered, milltown.


As if I need to tell you.

Na left there about an hour ago, had a pint and drove home. Will head to Casement to have a few tomorrow though.

Some of the lads there. Becks bloody promotion on also too!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on September 26, 2011, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 06:22:07 PM
If Cargin hadn't done the dirt on JC maybe, just maybe mind, they might have had something going over there.
jc has not a clue about football,plenty around cargin better than him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 11:17:36 PM
Quote from: bhoy1888 on September 26, 2011, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 06:22:07 PM
If Cargin hadn't done the dirt on JC maybe, just maybe mind, they might have had something going over there.
jc has not a clue about football,plenty around cargin better than him

He may not know how to win a league, but managed a Championship when there was 'better' men about him ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2011, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 23, 2011, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
Not our fault, teams refusing to train as hard

yeah, thats ballix, there isnt a team in antrim, or any team in Ireland who doesnt train their stones off. Nobody is saying Galls dont deserve any of their titles, they deserve every thing they have got over their 100+ years, but a bit disrespectful to the rest
Not only that but St. Gall's got a great crop all coming together at the one time. It's been a fair few years since they got within a sniff of a minor title and it could be a few years yet. They will be overtaken, eventually and with comments like that, I hope Milltown is ready.


i thought galls did ok against johnies in semi, had them rattled for a bit - lets hope this post doesnt come back to haunt you HS!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 10:35:02 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 24, 2011, 07:31:42 PM
I think Micko just felt Pollock's Bollocks.

CJ has a right and big arse on him.

How is this so close?

Anyone see this on TV last night? Before 9.00pm also, kids could have been watching :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 27, 2011, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 10:35:02 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 24, 2011, 07:31:42 PM
I think Micko just felt Pollock's Bollocks.

CJ has a right and big arse on him.

How is this so close?

Anyone see this on TV last night? Before 9.00pm also, kids could have been watching :P

I missed the highlights last night - is there a TG4 Iplayer type thing? Or can we not watch them as we don't live in Ireland?

Turned into a bit of a Micko pantomime for a while. At one point he was on his knees beating the ground with his fists when the linesman didn't make a decision for him.
That said he played well when on the ball.

B Herron missed a couple of easy enough chances that if taken might have drawn them level - who knows what can happen when you're level and the blood is up.
Thought LD were a bit naive constantly waiting for Cunningham to come out and take their frees, wherever they were. Good distrubtion and great feet (foot) but slowed the thing down, arguably he should have been on the end of them.
LD's number 5 is a wee flyer and if he bulks up and doesn't lose the pace he could be some player.

Is Kevin McGourty injured then? Saw him in the stand looking very dapper and perhaps commenting? Or just speaking into a phone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 11:03:44 AM
injured alright, no , wasnt commentating, well could have been unofficially ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 27, 2011, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 10:35:02 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 24, 2011, 07:31:42 PM
I think Micko just felt Pollock's Bollocks.

CJ has a right and big arse on him.

How is this so close?

Anyone see this on TV last night? Before 9.00pm also, kids could have been watching :P

I missed the highlights last night - is there a TG4 Iplayer type thing? Or can we not watch them as we don't live in Ireland?

Turned into a bit of a Micko pantomime for a while. At one point he was on his knees beating the ground with his fists when the linesman didn't make a decision for him.
That said he played well when on the ball.

B Herron missed a couple of easy enough chances that if taken might have drawn them level - who knows what can happen when you're level and the blood is up.
Thought LD were a bit naive constantly waiting for Cunningham to come out and take their frees, wherever they were. Good distrubtion and great feet (foot) but slowed the thing down, arguably he should have been on the end of them.
LD's number 5 is a wee flyer and if he bulks up and doesn't lose the pace he could be some player.

Is Kevin McGourty injured then? Saw him in the stand looking very dapper and perhaps commenting? Or just speaking into a phone.


Aye number 5 for Lamh's was very impressive, played great against Cargin also. Would need to baulk up a bit but still only minor so time yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2011, 04:13:59 PM
How many minors had the Lamhs on - 3 or 4?

When Micko plays it is always the Micko pantomime. If he concentrated on the game he could be a very good player is the worst of it.

St Galls dominance won't last forever no doubt but there's a few years in it yet. Whether there is another AI in this team is another question. If a lot of these boys retire with only one AI it will be a shame as I personally think they'll have underachieved and I would say some of them would feel the same.

If they can blood a few players a year, which they seem to be, then that'll be a big help. Hard to see who'll take over unless Lamhs can get a lot out of their underage crew. Cargin always have the players to challenge them but unless things change drastically they won't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 07:52:14 PM
I wouldn't mind underachieving with an all Ireland medal in my back pocket!!
::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2011, 08:30:19 PM
I do and I don't mean it in a bad way MR. Those boys are capable of a few more all irelands. They know they're capable of more than one too. It's the standard they've set so it's not a particularly negative comment. If Cross can get 4 or 5 AIs why can't you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
Don't you think they still have something to prove MR2?  Don't mean to be a shitebag but this team needs to beat Cross in the same way Kerry would never have felt they fully achieved unless they beat Tyrone. 

Your All-Ireland win was amazing for your club and beats anything my club has even achieved but deep down, do you not think that your All-Ireland win was a bit too easy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 09:18:36 PM
I knew that would have sounded bad, Corofin match was difficult alright for them.  Final was a walk in the park.

But they strolled through Ulster did they not?  And they didn't meet and beat Cross.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 27, 2011, 09:23:27 PM
Cross didn't get out of Armagh, not St. Galls' fault. Pearse Og (who beat Cross) gave them a quare game. Could and perhaps should have beaten them.

Stupid comment, tbf.

Of course its not St Galls fault ffs.  That was the first match, after that, it was easy for them.

But until they beat Cross, they can't be regarded as potential multi-All Ireland winners in my opinion.  They have met Cross twice (open for correction) during their recent exploits and have been second best twice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 09:36:48 PM
Cross don't qualify, St Galls win an All-Ireland.

Cross do qualify, St Galls don't get out of Ulster.

This is the pattern.  They need to beat Cross in the same way Kerry needed to beat Tyrone at the time. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 09:43:13 PM
That would be different because Cross have proven that they are better than St Galls in recent years.

Listen, I know its not easy to win an AI.  Fair fcuks to St Galls.  I take my hat off to them.  It was just something I was thinking about.  I think its a fair comment and I suppose only a St Galls man would be able to honestly answer it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2011, 08:30:19 PM
I do and I don't mean it in a bad way MR. Those boys are capable of a few more all irelands. They know they're capable of more than one too. It's the standard they've set so it's not a particularly negative comment. If Cross can get 4 or 5 AIs why can't you?

A couple of games they lost that maybe they shouldn't have. The Loup beat us  in the Ulster final and Salthill should never have beaten us, but lets not underestimate what they have achieved, they are regarded as one of the best teams in Ireland.

Cross are a superb team, there's not a team in Ireland looking to play them, their brand of football is different to ours and more effective than ours (they get results)

If St Galls never win an All Ireland again then it won't make them a bad team, they will hopefully play Cross at Casement, Cross will be favourites, rightly so. If Cross beat them they will try and get back to the Ulster Championship again.


Now stop talking shite please, starting to sound like the WUMS ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2011, 11:19:04 PM
Underachieve may be a strong word for it but I do think, as per with Armagh's dominant team in the earky noughties, one AI is a lot less than you should be winning.

Anyway, I am not on the wind up. Genuine opinion I hold. If you think it's bullsh*t fair enough but I think there's a lot more in that galls team than one AI. There is plenty of time for them to achieve this though. Hopefully this year and a victory against Cross will change that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 28, 2011, 10:24:34 AM
Lads 4father is bang on - and i would say the players would aggree with him!

They absolutely have to beat cross this year to have that bit of satisfaction/closure if you like!

No one is saying Galls havent achieved, but we know where their focus will be for the next 4 weeks (could very well be the sat night by the way - live on the box!).

And for their sake i hope they do it (monkey off the back and all that)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
Monkey off back ? What club are you from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 28, 2011, 12:37:46 PM
monkey off back (common term used in gaa circles when a team finally beats an opposition that it had not previously been able to beat!)

Hope this answers your question MR2

regarding my club -  not that far away from you ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2011, 04:03:34 PM
Winning an all Ireland is great, no monkey's on the back at all. Has your club any monkey's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 28, 2011, 09:24:55 PM
I see All Saints are down to play Portglenone in the Intermediate Football Final.

I take it Aldergrove did not win their appeal. Does anyone know any more information regarding this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 28, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
First i've heard of any issue or appeal, enlighten please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 28, 2011, 09:31:17 PM
It seems from what I have heard, Aldergrove have been thrown out of the championship due to playing an illegal player who was not on the clubs gaa database, even though this player has been playing for Aldergrove for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 30, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
very good MR2!

plenty of monkeys in every club,you should know! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 30, 2011, 03:21:28 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=155812
Quote
Rugby star Ward to assist Saffrons
30 September 2011
Former Ireland and Ulster rugby star Andy Ward has agreed to become the new strength and conditioning coach for the Antrim footballers.

The New Zealand-born flanker made his Irish debut against France in 1998 and went on to win 28 caps. He was a key member of the Ulster team that became the first Irish winners of the Heineken Cup in 1999 and played his club rugby with Ballinahinch until recently.

Ironically, Dublin's All-Ireland winning captain Bryan Cullen is due to take up a similar full-time role with Leinster rugby in the next fortnight.

Not really sure the problems for Antrim Football are related to Strength & Conditioning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
I disagree. I think a large problem we have is our strength and conditioning. A lot of our players lack strength and are too easily brushed off the ball. There are a few exceptions however they are just a few.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on September 30, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
Not much chat about the Junior or Intermediate finals. Anybody any predictions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on September 30, 2011, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on September 30, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
Not much chat about the Junior or Intermediate finals. Anybody any predictions?

Junior, i hope Eire Og win simply because ODs re-entered it after winning it last year.  According to an Aggies friend of mine, they're team is a bit of a mongrel team made up of players from every club in Belfast recently.  If they won it last year, they should be favourites this year again so I hope Eire Og win it but to be honest, i havent the foggiest idea about Junior Football.

Portglenone should win the IFC.  I heard the likes of Convery, Eoin Doc, McCarry etc are retiring after this year so it would be good for Portglen1 to win, good for those lads who have given quite a lot to the county and their clubs.  But Ballymena won't care about that.

What you reckon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 01, 2011, 01:49:41 AM
Intermediate Final off now, Aldergrove were successful in their appeal at Croke Park.
Don't know what the arrangements are now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 01, 2011, 10:12:35 AM
The Intermediate Championship has now become a complete and total shambles.Players waking up to discover not only has the County Final been postponed but that they're now not even in a County Final.Absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 01, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
Clubs do have the right to appeal lads.  The county should not have fixed the final until the appeal was seen.  Its not Aldergrove's fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on October 01, 2011, 10:40:39 AM
shambles isnt the word for it. the momentum is now with aldergrove..how can ballymena pick themselves up after preparing for a battle against portglenone to having to play the semi final. its a disgrace on the countys behalf fixing the final and even telling ballymena they are in the final. it has been a month since semi final weekend and a day before the final is to take place aldergrove are back in. hope justice prevails and the ballymena men get their final place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 01, 2011, 11:29:00 AM
I wouldn't blame Aldergrove 4Father.As an All Saint I think that we have been treated poorly.However I have sympathy for both Aldergrove and Portglenone.The fact that the Final was fixed before the appeals process had been exhausted is beyond belief.
Portglenone have been sitting in the final for weeks now and are still no clearer as to whom they might play.We prepared for a Semi against Aldergrove only to be told we were in the final and now we're back in a Semi Final.Aldergrove were quite entitled to appeal and fair play to them for succeeding.
All of this on the back of the fact that the Intermediate Final is the only final from both codes not to be staged at Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 01, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
I hear ya TYP, you're 100% correct.

As for justice prevailing though (the other poster - assuming he's an All-Saint too), the best team will win the semi final.  Aldergrove are rightfully still in the competition if they have won their appeal so there's no justice in it.  The winning team is usually the team that deserves it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 01, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on October 01, 2011, 11:29:00 AM
I wouldn't blame Aldergrove 4Father.As an All Saint I think that we have been treated poorly.However I have sympathy for both Aldergrove and Portglenone.The fact that the Final was fixed before the appeals process had been exhausted is beyond belief.
Portglenone have been sitting in the final for weeks now and are still no clearer as to whom they might play.We prepared for a Semi against Aldergrove only to be told we were in the final and now we're back in a Semi Final.Aldergrove were quite entitled to appeal and fair play to them for succeeding.
All of this on the back of the fact that the Intermediate Final is the only final from both codes not to be staged at Casement.

The Intermediate Final hasn't been in Casement for a few years now.  Makes much more sense to play in a SW venue if there are 2 SW teams taking part - far bigger crowd guaranteed, and close enough for any Derry neutrals to come and watch. 


Aldergrove v All Saints    Casement Park   05/10/2011 19:30    Semi-Final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 01, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
So Glad to hear that, took croke park to eventually stop wee joe! He keeps going he wont have to many votes in SW when he wants his campaign to take off next year, 3 cheers for Croker! God help us if he gets in >:(

Should be a good game at casement, hard to call this one but I feel the momentum is now with Aldergrove.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 01, 2011, 11:12:49 PM
Andy Ward (rugger) Paul McFlynn & Gearoid Adams part of Bradleys team next season.

Does McFlynn still teach at St Louis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 02, 2011, 11:38:27 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 01, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
So Glad to hear that, took croke park to eventually stop wee joe! He keeps going he wont have to many votes in SW when he wants his campaign to take off next year, 3 cheers for Croker! God help us if he gets in >:(

What is it about Antrim and these egg-on-the-face reversals. Are the people repsonsible incompetent or malicious? And whichever it is, why do the clubs re-elect them? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 02, 2011, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: bhoy1888 on September 05, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
hope moneyglass stay up they are a far better team than the table shows ;

Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Moneyglass  18 5 11 2 245 280 -35 12
Ahoghill       17 4 9 4 235 293 -58 12
Aghagallon  17 4 13 0 179 287 -108 8

Moneyglass on a bit of a sweat now Bhoy1888! Will you all be going up to Ahoghill on Wednesday night to cheer St Gall's on?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 02, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on October 02, 2011, 11:38:27 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 01, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
So Glad to hear that, took croke park to eventually stop wee joe! He keeps going he wont have to many votes in SW when he wants his campaign to take off next year, 3 cheers for Croker! God help us if he gets in >:(

What is it about Antrim and these egg-on-the-face reversals. Are the people repsonsible incompetent or malicious? And whichever it is, why do the clubs re-elect them? ???

Egg-on-face for Ulster also, who upheld the decision that Aldergrove appealed.  No doubt whoever the highly paid solicitor working on behalf of Aldergrove was, managed to pull something out of his arse to persuade the DRA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on October 02, 2011, 03:40:39 PM
fair play to aldergrove but the fact it took a month to sort out is unbelievable. what would of happened if the final was played before the appeal was through?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 02, 2011, 08:02:55 PM
Sure José Parasol does it all free of charge and for the love of the game!    Like fcuk he does!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 03, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
did O'Donnells win the jfc again? Was that twice in two years and if so how did they manage to win it and not move up to the ifc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 03, 2011, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on October 03, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
did O'Donnells win the jfc again? Was that twice in two years and if so how did they manage to win it and not move up to the ifc?

I think you can choose to stay down (well at least their example shows you can).

While the manger spoke very well and is a character in my humble opinion there ain't much glory winning at the same level two years in a row. You go up, seek to earn your keep at the higher level and if its not going well then come back down 2/3 years later.

It can't be used as 'experience' for the Ulster series. They'll get beat again anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 03, 2011, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on October 03, 2011, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 01, 2011, 11:12:49 PM
Andy Ward (rugger) Paul McFlynn & Gearoid Adams part of Bradleys team next season.

Does McFlynn still teach at St Louis?

Mc Flynn, very surprised at that, no management or coaching experince at senior level, Adams a couple of senior seasons experience,  you would have to call it a very inexperienced back room team

I, for one, am pretty impressed by the appointments.

Conway was very highly rated and impressed all but it was time to spice things up.

McFlynn was a seasoned and classy county player (is a sports coach/PE teacher). I am not sure whether he's had any involvement with senior management but will relatively recently have been around many many good coaches.
I would argue Adams was also a seasoned and classy county player (as much as you can be that from Antrim!) - he was always an athlete and demanding of his players on the field.

Who would you have preferred MM?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 03, 2011, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 03, 2011, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on October 03, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
did O'Donnells win the jfc again? Was that twice in two years and if so how did they manage to win it and not move up to the ifc?

I think you can choose to stay down (well at least their example shows you can).

While the manger spoke very well and is a character in my humble opinion there ain't much glory winning at the same level two years in a row. You go up, seek to earn your keep at the higher level and if its not going well then come back down 2/3 years later.

It can't be used as 'experience' for the Ulster series. They'll get beat again anyway.

I see they are due to play the Armagh champions, any idea who it is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 03, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/video/Antrim-Clubs-2011/ODonnells/Movie-Star-Joe-McVeigh-Antrim-JFC-Winner-707

Cringeworthy stuff.  Airy Og??  Come on, at least pronounce your opponents name correctly.  What is this ridiculous 'talk is cheap, you need money for hot dogs' quote about?  Who is he referring to about their chances being talked down?  They were the Junior champions ffs and in Division 3, they were utter favourites for it.  Love to see what they'll do next year.

As someone says, there's little glory in winning the JUNIOR championship twice in a row.  Come on!!  Other thing that annoys me is the amount of people I recognised in that video who came from other clubs.  I saw a St Galls man, A Johnnies man or two, quite a few Gortnamona men, a Davitts man etc.  I actually feel a bit scundered for them winning that. 

I know I'm being hard on them a bit and to be fair, they are just a bunch of fella's playing Gaelic Games and promoting it once again in the area which is good to see but i hate to see teams being made from what they are calling 'signings'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2011, 08:36:31 PM
4father I wouldn't be too sure who plays for O'Donnells this year however if you were to look at photos in their changing rooms / clubhouse you would find that they have seriously suffered from their own players moving to bigger clubs. In the last 20 years there'd be a few county boys who played for them but moved to bigger clubs so you may not be entirely on the money with what you're thinking there.

I'm not from O'Donnells or next to near it by the way. I just remember playing them a few times and seeing some big names who just jumped to other clubs and feeling a bit sorry for them. They've suffered enough with it over the years too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 03, 2011, 09:10:40 PM
You're right.  I've been too hard on them.  At the end of the day, its good to see them back and at it again.  I know they've had a load of players leave and head to other clubs (think Gavin Bell was an ODs man was he not?) in the past not to mention the hardship their club has had with McCrory park etc.  And I know its good to see ODs tops all around the Whiterock and St James area.

I know one or two of the real ODs men and they're a hard crowd to listen to at the minute.  I just don't think that two wrongs make a right.  They have been making more 'signings' that Man City of late though (taking players from other clubs - something they suffered from) and then re-entered a competition that they won last year which I think is unfair and a bit embarrassing for them. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2011, 09:31:50 PM
Well I would agree with you that they shouldn't be entering a championship they won 2 years in a row. The county shouldn't be allowing it to happen either and should be rules against it.

Dunno what the story is with them signing players but they've lost a lot over the years too.  Big Colm McCabe was too and there were a few more I can't recall. I would begrudge a country team doing it a lot more than a smaller city team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 03, 2011, 09:45:25 PM
I don't think there's much of a difference whether its a rural club or a city club doing it.  It shouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2011, 09:55:21 PM
No however if you got screwed from it often enough though I would guess it would make you more likely to do it. Let's face it - it's rife in Belfast and unless it's stamped up by authorities, not necessarily the county board but maybe further afield, it will continue to happen. That does not excuse it but when you're disadvantaged by it often enough it would be hard to not take advantage of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 03, 2011, 09:57:28 PM
Fair enough but to the real club people, are they not just blow-ins then?  Granted, you always get the odd one or two who turn into good club people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2011, 10:08:45 PM
Well it is has the potential to cause difficulty. While some boys have cleared off for bigger clubs others have dedicated themselves through tough years and possibly got dropped etc.

I don't advocate it but for a club like o'donnells I have some sympathy. For bigger clubs I think it's disgusting mind.

As well as anything else you may have to consider that without a few "blow ins" this club may not be able to field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 03, 2011, 10:38:07 PM
Quote from: 4father on October 03, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/video/Antrim-Clubs-2011/ODonnells/Movie-Star-Joe-McVeigh-Antrim-JFC-Winner-707

Cringeworthy stuff.  Airy Og??  Come on, at least pronounce your opponents name correctly.  What is this ridiculous 'talk is cheap, you need money for hot dogs' quote about?  Who is he referring to about their chances being talked down?  They were the Junior champions ffs and in Division 3, they were utter favourites for it.  Love to see what they'll do next year.

As someone says, there's little glory in winning the JUNIOR championship twice in a row.  Come on!!  Other thing that annoys me is the amount of people I recognised in that video who came from other clubs.  I saw a St Galls man, A Johnnies man or two, quite a few Gortnamona men, a Davitts man etc.  I actually feel a bit scundered for them winning that. 

I know I'm being hard on them a bit and to be fair, they are just a bunch of fella's playing Gaelic Games and promoting it once again in the area which is good to see but i hate to see teams being made from what they are calling 'signings'.

Signings, Hot Dogs, Airy Og??!!!

WTF??!!

I wonder what gaels from round Ulster think of that lunatic!!

Some craic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on October 03, 2011, 10:59:41 PM
real problem for belfast clubs. i doubt there is any way of policing this. parents will send their talented children to bigger clubs in search of glory. disagree with ods entering junior again. look for example what st brigids and ahoghill have done over the past years...won junior and progressed and are now both senior teams. maybe ods are happy at this level.

intermediate semi final on wednesday...going for ballymena by two
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2011, 11:15:55 PM
While the rule is in place (for both) then it will continue.

I'd prefer that it didn't happen. In Juvenile it's been banned in Belfast, a lot of clubs not happy namely St Johns.

While we have had some lads come and play for us, I'd say none of them would have made a big difference in us winning what we have had lately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 03, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2011, 11:15:55 PM
While the rule is in place (for both) then it will continue.

I'd prefer that it didn't happen. In Juvenile it's been banned in Belfast, a lot of clubs not happy namely St Johns.

While we have had some lads come and play for us, I'd say none of them would have made a big difference in us winning what we have had lately.

But those players have certainly solidified your dominance though, wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 04, 2011, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: 4father on October 03, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/video/Antrim-Clubs-2011/ODonnells/Movie-Star-Joe-McVeigh-Antrim-JFC-Winner-707

Cringeworthy stuff.  Airy Og??  Come on, at least pronounce your opponents name correctly.  What is this ridiculous 'talk is cheap, you need money for hot dogs' quote about?  Who is he referring to about their chances being talked down?  They were the Junior champions ffs and in Division 3, they were utter favourites for it.  Love to see what they'll do next year.

As someone says, there's little glory in winning the JUNIOR championship twice in a row.  Come on!!  Other thing that annoys me is the amount of people I recognised in that video who came from other clubs.  I saw a St Galls man, A Johnnies man or two, quite a few Gortnamona men, a Davitts man etc.  I actually feel a bit scundered for them winning that. 

I know I'm being hard on them a bit and to be fair, they are just a bunch of fella's playing Gaelic Games and promoting it once again in the area which is good to see but i hate to see teams being made from what they are calling 'signings'.

You're right...Airy Og??  In my day the proper pronounciation was Eary Og!  And what's all this Lav Yarigg??  Everyone knows it's Lamb Derg!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 10:43:22 AM
Quote from: 4father on October 03, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2011, 11:15:55 PM
While the rule is in place (for both) then it will continue.

I'd prefer that it didn't happen. In Juvenile it's been banned in Belfast, a lot of clubs not happy namely St Johns.

While we have had some lads come and play for us, I'd say none of them would have made a big difference in us winning what we have had lately.

But those players have certainly solidified your dominance though, wouldn't you agree?

No not really, have been to many Galls games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 04, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
Any views on the new team that the Baker has around him for the new season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2011, 08:33:15 PM
Paul Mc Flynn was a class act on the field, and is an absolutely brilliant fella off it too. The players will really love him being around the squad. Geroid could play a bit too, and will also be very popular. He wears his heart on his sleeve and also a great person to have in the management team. An Antrim man to the bone, will be there for all the right reasons.

Andy Ward captained Ulster rugby team to the Heineken Cup, so I wouldnt think he would be short on leadership outside of his strength and conditioning role. All in all, I think they are three fantastic appointments and would see great team morale emerging again as a result.

Its make or break time for Baker though. To my mind anything short of getting out of Division three will be an underachievement given the players at his disposal. His tenure has been a real mixed bag to my mind - we`ve seen a bit of everything!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
I think Paul McFlynn, while inexperienced in this role, could be a great addition. His intelligence on the field is something I could very much see feeding into this kind of role very well.

Also I think we are ok in terms of cardiovascular fitness but I think a lot of our players lack the strength that a lot of other county teams develop through winter weight training and years of conditioning work. Andy Ward will hopefully be a great addition who will have a completely objective view on things.

Not sure what Adams has done from a coaching perspective but always like him as a player so hopefully he'll bring to the backroom what he brought to the playing side of things.

Baker has had a mixed bag alright. Last year wasn't too great. There was a brief glimmer of being able to beat Down but that was quickly wiped out and the Donegal game wasn't too hot on top of the league games. Realistically division 3 is probably more our level though and the objective should be to push for promotion. We haven't great depth and hopefully with more players available next year we'll be more successful. It'd be good to blood a bit of youth in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 04, 2011, 09:42:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 10:43:22 AM
Quote from: 4father on October 03, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2011, 11:15:55 PM
While the rule is in place (for both) then it will continue.

I'd prefer that it didn't happen. In Juvenile it's been banned in Belfast, a lot of clubs not happy namely St Johns.

While we have had some lads come and play for us, I'd say none of them would have made a big difference in us winning what we have had lately.

But those players have certainly solidified your dominance though, wouldn't you agree?

No not really, have been to many Galls games?

Well off the top of my head, I can think of The Gallaghers from Fermanagh and Michael Pollock who came in to your team to solidify your dominance.  I know there are others aswell.

I also know that St Galls dont need those players to be where they are at and would do well enough with their own players but in terms of making them more dominant in Antrim football then I would stand over what I wrote.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Pants, if none of those players (good lads that they are) played for St Galls we would still have won as  many as titles. If you have  any knowledge of local teams or St Galls then you'd know that that.

that team won 5/6 minor titles plus 6 odd under 21 titles together, long before other players came along.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 05, 2011, 02:26:43 PM
Backed you last time 4father, but youre talking as if you dont know what youre talking about!

Was involved in a debate the other day about this and was left with egg on my face!

Ronan Gallagher - 8 years now, Rory Gallagher and Mickey Pollock a few years at club.  The rest have been there practically all there lives. This notion that galls are a team of blow ins is ridiculous (and thats what we're getting at).  It is up for debate, as MR2 has stated, whether or not these guys have consolidated anything.

But regarding players going to other clubs - i could name you a lotta teams who have had many a fella join them!  The difference being - it goes under the radar because they prove unsuccessful!

That is the difference, and unfortunately for st.galls, they are in the public domain and under scrutiny at everyturn in the wonderful but cynical world of the GAA! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Pants, if none of those players (good lads that they are) played for St Galls we would still have won as  many as titles. If you have  any knowledge of local teams or St Galls then you'd know that that.

that team won 5/6 minor titles plus 6 odd under 21 titles together, long before other players came along.

Off you go then.

List all of the St. Gall's teams that have won championships without any blow-ins.

There are members on every St. Gall's championship winning team who have played their entire careers with St. Gall's, others poached / joined at underage level and others who joined as seniors. I've seen it my place of work, where any able-bodied male member of staff is approached (the most recent a high profile Errigal Ciaran player) and where pupils are lured with the promise of great success.

To suggest St Gall's would have been as successful without the blow-ins is pants.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on October 05, 2011, 02:52:50 PM
Mark Mc Rory (Armagh) played midfeld in how winning teams? Ronan Gallagher & Rory Gallagher (Fermanagh), John Rafferty (Armagh), yer wee man from carrickmor last year, did Short from Crossmaglen play also, it rings a bell, could be wrong, all thats off the top of my head without any indepth research into it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 05:01:34 PM
So we would not have won without them? Is that what you are saying Sam? Of the teams that won those under age championships how many where not St Galls players right through from under 12?


Ask your work mate and he will give you a better more educated response.

Team that won the All Ireland

St Gall's -- Ronan Gallagher; P Veronica, A McClean, C Brady; S Kelly, A Healy, M Kelly; S Burke, A Gallagher; T O'Neill, Kieran McGourty, Kevin McGourty; C McGourty, K Niblock, R Gallagher.

Are you saying had we not had those players in those positions we would not have won? All the other lads won right through juvenile together. There is not a club in the land that over the course of their history not had outsiders/blow ins in their team. We live in a city with no boundaries it happens. It's not a wee village parish somewhere in South Armagh

As for a list of all Championships without blow-ins I did, 5/6 minor and under 21 championships in a row were won by St Galls lads. Out of our control when someone leaves a club and wants to join a club. We have had many a good player leave the club and will continue to do so to join other clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 05, 2011, 06:45:10 PM
Theres no doubt a player like Pollock helped solidify St Galls at the top. A player like him would make a huge difference to any other team in the county. If he was added to the LD line-up in the final rather than the Galls it may have made the score closer--but no doubt St Galls have plenty of others to call on like CJ who didnt start, his brother Kevin, Ciaran Gallagher etc etc.

Galls are top class, freak group of talent who came together/were born at the same time--such a group that your opinion on who is their best player might change after every game if they played 365 days in a year.

Others who played for them during the last decade from other clubs/counties were Ciaran McCrossan (winning goal in Ulster final 2005), Gary McGirr, Damien McDonnell (all Tyrone), Eunan Ferguson (Ferm), John Kane (Down) etc. The reality with those aforementioned players is they all went to university in and settled in Belfast and didnt want/couldnt travel home to play for their 'birth' clubs. They now have a new home in Belfast and played for a team there--coming along through a friend, due to Galls reputation or whatever

The same has happened and will continue to happen in all clubs in Belfast and cities were people migrate to work. Reality is that Galls have more than a core of Gallsmen, there since birth (or just after!) playing senior football who are top class--the addition of 1 or 2 players from hasnt made them class but may have added somewhat.

Name me a club in Belfast who doesnt have someone from 'outside' who's moved into an area and played for a club, joining from another club.

Clubs aren't gonna turn people away who go and train with them and ask to play/transfer. How could a club say "no i dont care that you live here now but your originally from Fermanagh 80 to 100 miles away, if you wanna play football drive home after work 2 hours to drive 2 hours back to train with your 'old home' club" ?? Ridiculous.

The only thing thats hard to understand is how Rory Gallagher continues to play for Galls whilst living in Killybegs. He won an all ireland its mad to think of the travelling he does for a club game. Club must have made some impression on him. You'd think he'd be a candidate to give something back to his old home club in Beleek now he's living not too far away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 07:38:48 PM
St Galls are masters at trawling the city for talent at Primary or just Post-Primary age. Wasn't young Terry O'Neill an example of systematic poaching or was that Burke? Or both?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 07:45:36 PM
Why don't you ask them O'Neil?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 07:48:59 PM
Jaysus you'd know better than me. I could be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
Burkey joined from McDermotts at U12 I believe. He was a year behind me so may have still been U10.

Darren Harbinson joined at U16, below that played with Aldergrove because they live in the back of beyond. However, as Lenny's son and a cousin of the McGourtys, I don't really see any issue with it.

Wouldn't be familiar with St. Brigid's senior team at the minute but I know a few years ago they had the likes of Chris McCann and Decky O'Hagan who came in from other clubs. Obviously considering the relative youth of the club and their location, their first generation of senior teams had plenty of "non-natives".

The Clarkes from St. Galls moved to St. Johns, although that was nothing to do with recruitment or anything. Horsey McKillop joined St. Johns from Sarsfields. Players move around at underage in Belfast all the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 07:48:59 PM
Jaysus you'd know better than me. I could be completely wrong.

Exactly

Primary age? What are we talking about aged 5-6-7-8....?

These lads won under 12 football and hurling championships right through to under 21

Are you saying that you can tell at the age of 5 that the lad is going to be a cracker? I know loads of kids who showed great early promise and were crap at senior.

Come down to the club on a Saturday morning and see for yourself the effort and commitment show to over a hundred kids under the age of 10. There is no systematic poaching as you put it.

When I grew up there was no parish teams, and there still no parish teams in West Belfast, it's hard for country folk to get their heads around that but sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 09:39:05 PM
Well, no matter how many began their GAA experiences elsewhere, they're a special group of players now, probably the best in Antrim's history. Add to that, their hurling achievements this year make it a phenomenal club altogether. It's a big pity they didn't win the  All-Ireland Intermediate hurling title a year or two ago. I think that beating in the final had a bearing on their development in terms of belief, something the footballing side don't lack.

And they're not finished yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 09:49:59 PM
Where did Terry O'Neill play as a youngster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2011, 09:48:31 PM
Some craic here.

One thing I have to note, Horsie McKillop is an obscure one to pick, gallsman. Simon McCrory would have been the more obvious choice of that particular Johnnies generation.

Also, was Burkey not Michells?

You're right, he was Mitchells, not McD's. Think his dad was a Mitchells man.

I was in primary school with Horsey and know/knew him pretty well, hence the selection. Can remember playing against Simon for the Johnnies at least as far back as U14 I think. Where did he come from and at what age?

Mark Devlin (and possibly his little brother?) joined Rossa from St. Teresa's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2011, 09:57:24 PM
Didn't Mickey Wing join Rossa from Sarsfields?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on October 05, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
just after wittnesing the fix of the year i wonder how much aghogill paid st galls tonight to prevent them being sent into div 2 and for st galls to score 1 point in the second half tells its own story.it hasnt been the first time that they got a favour and prob wont be the last hold your heads down in shame
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
It is a pity they didn't win the All Ireland, and if you had have seen the game you'd have realised we were hammered by a great team from Kilkenny. Would be foolish to say it had a bearing on their self belief as they bounced back with beating Dunloy two years later.

I'm still sick that the lads didn't beat Cushendall and reach the clubs first ever senior county final. Great bunch of lads who deserve that crack at a senior hurling final.

Burkey's dad is a Mitchells man and Burkey as i have said played under 12 right through with St Galls, Terry's dad is a McDermotts again he also played from under 12.

This is silly altogether, we could name the Graham's from Cushendun who went to Rossa the new players at O'Dees St Johns were famous for it Sarsfields do it there's not a club that hasn't done it. Thing is we are winning Ulster titles and an All Ireland. So you'll get the few jealous people coming on sniping and having a snide remark about it, means nothing



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Quote from: bhoy1888 on October 05, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
just after wittnesing the fix of the year i wonder how much aghogill paid st galls tonight to prevent them being sent into div 2 and for st galls to score 1 point in the second half tells its own story.it hasnt been the first time that they got a favour and prob wont be the last hold your heads down in shame

I take it your club didn't do enough throughout the year to stay safe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
This is silly altogether, we could name the Graham's from Cushendun who went to Rossa the new players at O'Dees St Johns were famous for it Sarsfields do it there's not a club that hasn't done it. Thing is we are winning Ulster titles and an All Ireland. So you'll get the few jealous people coming on sniping and having a snide remark about it, means nothing

That's what I'm trying to highlight  :)

If you look at the starting 15 from the county final, the "outsiders" - the two Fermanagh Gallaghers and Pollock could be more than ably deputised by Chris Kerr and two McGourtys. St. Galls' success is not down to "poaching", "stealing" or "trawling".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
Simon McCrory joined St. Johns from St. Endas (as a star) at u16. He was a steal.

Did he move for the hurling? Simon was the same age group as me - Enda's offered nothing for a hurler (which is obviously Simon's preference) and offered nothing for a footballer until about U16 when suddenly they were one of the only teams who could get near us when they had a few county players - Niall Devine, Gerard...Crossey?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2011, 10:13:18 PM
Btw, Mark Devlin started at Rossa.

Did he start there, move and then move back? He definitely played up the Glen Road for a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
It is a pity they didn't win the All Ireland, and if you had have seen the game you'd have realised we were hammered by a great team from Kilkenny. Would be foolish to say it had a bearing on their self belief as they bounced back with beating Dunloy two years later.


You're probably correct as I wasn't there. I've followed their fortunes since that and I think they won only one match in the senior grade, were relegated and didn't cut the mustard in the Intermediate this year. They were probably flying that year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2011, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2011, 10:13:18 PM
Btw, Mark Devlin started at Rossa.

Did he start there, move and then move back? He definitely played up the Glen Road for a few years.
Aye. His James never left.

I was thinking of Matt, who was possibly the best of them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
It is a pity they didn't win the All Ireland, and if you had have seen the game you'd have realised we were hammered by a great team from Kilkenny. Would be foolish to say it had a bearing on their self belief as they bounced back with beating Dunloy two years later.


You're probably correct as I wasn't there. I've followed their fortunes since that and I think they won only one match in the senior grade, were relegated and didn't cut the mustard in the Intermediate this year. They were probably flying that year.

As I'm sure you are aware, they were beaten last week in the semi finals, in their first year in senior they (of course you know this about the Kilkenny hurling) they play in groups. They had James Stephens who got to the final that year and this year and were only beat by a point in that group match, they also ran the other senior teams close in that group, but if you don't win the play off games you get relegated.

The standard as you already know cause you have an interest in Kilkenny hurling and in particular St. Lachtain's is of a higher standard that Antrim hurling, also they only play hurling as you'd know that also so your point is what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 05, 2011, 10:38:34 PM
Did Ahoghill win?!

f**k me harsh on Moneyglass--had Galls a full team out?

Hard to choose between Ahoghill and M'Glass--both good on their day but someway off top of league--some turn around though Ahoghill looked buried a while back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
It is a pity they didn't win the All Ireland, and if you had have seen the game you'd have realised we were hammered by a great team from Kilkenny. Would be foolish to say it had a bearing on their self belief as they bounced back with beating Dunloy two years later.


You're probably correct as I wasn't there. I've followed their fortunes since that and I think they won only one match in the senior grade, were relegated and didn't cut the mustard in the Intermediate this year. They were probably flying that year.

As I'm sure you are aware, they were beaten last week in the semi finals, in their first year in senior they (of course you know this about the Kilkenny hurling) they play in groups. They had James Stephens who got to the final that year and this year and were only beat by a point in that group match, they also ran the other senior teams close in that group, but if you don't win the play off games you get relegated.

The standard as you already know cause you have an interest in Kilkenny hurling and in particular St. Lachtain's is of a higher standard that Antrim hurling, also they only play hurling as you'd know that also so your point is what?

Agree with everything you said. Galls were just unlucky to come up against that team. In previous years a London team and a Westmeath team won that competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 05, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
International Rules Panel

Again no Antrim men--to my mind none have even ever went to a Trial for same --am i right?

Anyone know of anyone who's ever been asked to a trial?

Are we the only county in Ireland never to have a representative?

Who do people feel would merit inclusion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
It is a pity they didn't win the All Ireland, and if you had have seen the game you'd have realised we were hammered by a great team from Kilkenny. Would be foolish to say it had a bearing on their self belief as they bounced back with beating Dunloy two years later.


You're probably correct as I wasn't there. I've followed their fortunes since that and I think they won only one match in the senior grade, were relegated and didn't cut the mustard in the Intermediate this year. They were probably flying that year.

As I'm sure you are aware, they were beaten last week in the semi finals, in their first year in senior they (of course you know this about the Kilkenny hurling) they play in groups. They had James Stephens who got to the final that year and this year and were only beat by a point in that group match, they also ran the other senior teams close in that group, but if you don't win the play off games you get relegated.

The standard as you already know cause you have an interest in Kilkenny hurling and in particular St. Lachtain's is of a higher standard that Antrim hurling, also they only play hurling as you'd know that also so your point is what?

Agree with everything you said. Galls were just unlucky to come up against that team. In previous years a London team and a Westmeath team won that competition.

Yes a Westmeath senior team as they play in the intermediate Championship when they win their senior championship. But you would have know that also.

Dog with a bone ;D

You should try hurling, your interest is massive (in google search) in hurling and could be put to good use in Glenavy

The London team had some great players also, Sean Kelly of Rossa/Gortnamona was also on that team that was littered with  players from good hurling counties, again you'd know that. (another search please)

We could go all night with this childish behaviour. Still won't change a thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
Quote from: bhoy1888 on October 05, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
just after wittnesing the fix of the year i wonder how much aghogill paid st galls tonight to prevent them being sent into div 2 and for st galls to score 1 point in the second half tells its own story.it hasnt been the first time that they got a favour and prob wont be the last hold your heads down in shame

What sort of team did St Gall's have out? They mightn't have cared much about the result, but why would they look to do Ahoghill a favour? (or Moneyglass a dis-favour?).

Looks like Cargin will have to beat Lamh Dhearg in the last match of the season to win the league! Will the Lamhs do them a favour I wonder?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2011, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 05, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
International Rules Panel

Again no Antrim men--to my mind none have even ever went to a Trial for same --am i right?

Anyone know of anyone who's ever been asked to a trial?

Are we the only county in Ireland never to have a representative?

Who do people feel would merit inclusion?

The only one I think you could consider would be James Loughrey. I'm not sure the game would suit him though.

Of anyone else maybe Michael McCann?

Forwards in that game would need to be fit to make marks and I don't think we've many boys who fit that bill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
We've one game left and can finish on 29 points, Cargin can finish on 30 with the two games they have left against Lamh's and Creggan

I'm sure Cargin will go all out to win the league and stop us from winning the double :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
We've one game left and can finish on 29 points, Cargin can finish on 30 with the two games they have left against Lamh's and Creggan

I'm sure Cargin will go all out to win the league and stop us from winning the double :P

The current league table says St Gall's would have 28 pts if they beat Aghagallon and Cargin 26pts if they beat Creggan. Which would mean they would need to beat Lamh Dhearg to win on points difference. No? (unless you know of updates/corrections to the table MR?)

St Galls  16 13 3 0 280 197 83 26
Cargin  16 12 4 0 342 193 149 24
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 05, 2011, 11:12:22 PM
Currently (after St. Galls draw tonight) they have 27pts and a win v Aghagallon = 29pts

Cargin are on 24pts - 2 wins leaves them max 28pts

Galls only have to beat Aghagallon to win the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
Jeepers you're being a bit defensive there Milltown. For the third time I agree with you. I just think that loss in the AI Intermediate Final was the chance for those players to achieve greatness in that code and it was just a pity things didn't work out. It's also possible that their lack of belief when they had the Dall bate can be traced back to the same lack of conviction instilled in them back then against St Lachtains. But sure that's the luck of the draw I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2011, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 05, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
International Rules Panel

Again no Antrim men--to my mind none have even ever went to a Trial for same --am i right?

Anyone know of anyone who's ever been asked to a trial?

Are we the only county in Ireland never to have a representative?

Who do people feel would merit inclusion?

The only one I think you could consider would be James Loughrey. I'm not sure the game would suit him though.

Of anyone else maybe Michael McCann?

Forwards in that game would need to be fit to make marks and I don't think we've many boys who fit that bill.

Loughrey would be well suited IMO. McCann would be good for the fighting bits  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 05, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
Can none of the Irish Aussie Rules players play for Ireland?  Niall McKeever?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
That's the top of the table and does not have tonight's result in. If you look at the bottom of the games to play part you'll see we 'still have to play Ahoghill'

We have played 17 games one to play.

On another note, did we fix our game with Rasharkin also?

St Galls   0-7   3-11   Rasharkin   Rasharkin   13/04/2011   19:00   Round 1


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 11:18:47 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 05, 2011, 11:12:22 PM
Currently (after St. Galls draw tonight) they have 27pts and a win v Aghagallon = 29pts

Cargin are on 24pts - 2 wins leaves them max 28pts

Galls only have to beat Aghagallon to win the league.

Ah, it was a draw? No conspiracies needed then. If all both teams need is a draw then a draw is almost inevitable...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
Jeepers you're being a bit defensive there Milltown. For the third time I agree with you. I just think that loss in the AI Intermediate Final was the chance for those players to achieve greatness in that code and it was just a pity things didn't work out. It's also possible that their lack of belief when they had the Dall bate can be traced back to the same lack of conviction instilled in them back then against St Lachtains. But sure that's the luck of the draw I suppose.

You know they beat Dunloy this year? It wasn't a fluke either as it had to go to a second match were (had you been there) they won handy. Dunloy as you know (Christ your hurling knowledge is as good as mine) have been the main contenders for the senior championship for close to twenty years.

Are you implying they had no belief leading up to the All Ireland championship that year? In the All Ireland semi final we were 10/1 to beat the Galway Champions. Had you been there (surprised you weren't because of your fascination with all things hurling) you would have seen plenty of belief. Off to bed, but please continue and we will catch up at lunchtime tomorrow. Make a hurler outta yet

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
On another note, did we fix our game with Rasharkin also?

St Galls   0-7   3-11   Rasharkin   Rasharkin   13/04/2011   19:00   Round 1

No, you just played all the wannabe blow-ins that day  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
Jeepers you're being a bit defensive there Milltown. For the third time I agree with you. I just think that loss in the AI Intermediate Final was the chance for those players to achieve greatness in that code and it was just a pity things didn't work out. It's also possible that their lack of belief when they had the Dall bate can be traced back to the same lack of conviction instilled in them back then against St Lachtains. But sure that's the luck of the draw I suppose.

You know they beat Dunloy this year? It wasn't a fluke either as it had to go to a second match were (had you been there) they won handy. Dunloy as you know (Christ your hurling knowledge is as good as mine) have been the main contenders for the senior championship for close to twenty years.

Are you implying they had no belief leading up to the All Ireland championship that year? In the All Ireland semi final we were 10/1 to beat the Galway Champions. Had you been there (surprised you weren't because of your fascination with all things hurling) you would have seen plenty of belief. Off to bed, but please continue and we will catch up at lunchtime tomorrow. Make a hurler outta yet

Just a point about the IM from 2010 - no amount of belief or conviction would have won that game. We were going up against an infinitely superior hurling team, captained by Mickey Kavanagh and with several others throughout the team who had numerous underage inter-county All-Ireland medals and a few who had knocked about KK senior panels in their time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
That's the top of the table and does not have tonight's result in. If you look at the bottom of the games to play part you'll see we 'still have to play Ahoghill'

It will be a draw. Bet your house on it  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 06, 2011, 12:01:29 AM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on October 05, 2011, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2011, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 05, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
International Rules Panel

Again no Antrim men--to my mind none have even ever went to a Trial for same --am i right?

Anyone know of anyone who's ever been asked to a trial?

Are we the only county in Ireland never to have a representative?

Who do people feel would merit inclusion?

The only one I think you could consider would be James Loughrey. I'm not sure the game would suit him though.

Of anyone else maybe Michael McCann?

Forwards in that game would need to be fit to make marks and I don't think we've many boys who fit that bill.

Loughrey would be well suited IMO. McCann would be good for the fighting bits  ;D

Loughrey is made for this game. Breaking/avoiding tackles, good handling etc. A absolute crying shame if he has never been approached.

Pretty poor effort at trawling the so called weaker counties.

Look at the success Leighton Glynn has been in these games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on October 06, 2011, 12:34:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
It is a pity they didn't win the All Ireland, and if you had have seen the game you'd have realised we were hammered by a great team from Kilkenny. Would be foolish to say it had a bearing on their self belief as they bounced back with beating Dunloy two years later.

I'm still sick that the lads didn't beat Cushendall and reach the clubs first ever senior county final. Great bunch of lads who deserve that crack at a senior hurling final.

Burkey's dad is a Mitchells man and Burkey as i have said played under 12 right through with St Galls, Terry's dad is a McDermotts again he also played from under 12.

This is silly altogether, we could name the Graham's from Cushendun who went to Rossa the new players at O'Dees St Johns were famous for it Sarsfields do it there's not a club that hasn't done it. Thing is we are winning Ulster titles and an All Ireland. So you'll get the few jealous people coming on sniping and having a snide remark about it, means nothing

Don't mean to harp back on this.  (I havent been on in a wee while).  If you had have read my post properly and not jumped on the defensive, i wrote that this wouldn't have stopped them winning or something to that tune.  My point is that their dominance has been 'solidified' by these great players joining your club.  Let's face it they weren't just a few mickey mouse transfers!!  St Galls would win the championships without them I have no doubt but the word 'solidified' was my point and it certainly wasn't a snide remark if that was aimed at me amigo!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on October 06, 2011, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Quote from: bhoy1888 on October 05, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
just after wittnesing the fix of the year i wonder how much aghogill paid st galls tonight to prevent them being sent into div 2 and for st galls to score 1 point in the second half tells its own story.it hasnt been the first time that they got a favour and prob wont be the last hold your heads down in shame

I take it your club didn't do enough throughout the year to stay safe?
That makes it ok for a club to play weak teams? (I don't know what team St Galls had out)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 06, 2011, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Pants, if none of those players (good lads that they are) played for St Galls we would still have won as  many as titles. If you have  any knowledge of local teams or St Galls then you'd know that that.

that team won 5/6 minor titles plus 6 odd under 21 titles together, long before other players came along.

That's an awful lot of capable players. But this year your 2nds were relegated from Div3 and the 3rds ended up bottom of the bottom (Div6). Both teams only managed 2 wins over the year each. If memory serves, the 2nds were lucky to survive in Div3 last year and the 3rds got relegated from Div5 (and from Div4 the year before that)? Doesn't say much for strength and depth (beyond the 1st squad). Doesn't bode well for the future when the current crop of 1sts get tired/worn out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2011, 10:47:26 AM
Yeah we will surely be burnt out, that's what happens to a lot of clubs, impossible to keep going and then you go back to rebuilding.

We have had 3 teams for a lot of years and tried real hard to encourage the players that get lost from minor to under 21 to continue to play at senior (at some level)

Don't think we will be entering a third team next year as we have struggled lately. Can't knock us for trying to encourage lads to play football FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on October 06, 2011, 10:59:44 AM
Was up at the Ahoghill game, dont think Galls necessarily fielded a weak team.  Think the outcome was a result of a couple of players injured, bad weather and the fact that Ahoghill just weren't gonna give up.  Dont think either team even scored in the second half until about 20 minutes into it but not for lack of trying. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on October 06, 2011, 11:01:24 AM
Didin't mean to knock your club MR, if that's what it sounded like. They have, and continue to do, sterling work and no doubt the recent emergence of the hurlers as a serious force has diluted the football side of things as well. Cargin aren't fairing much better (even with no hurling). But it wasn't very long ago that St Gall's and Cargin's 2nd and 3rd strings were beating all round them (along with their 1sts). Definite change. Time will tell whether it just a normalisation or a slide...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 06, 2011, 11:34:44 AM
Ronan Gall, Anto Healy, Brady, Paul Verinica, Sean Kelly, Mark Kelly, Sean Burke, Darren O Hare, K McGourty. CJ McGourty, Rory Gall, Aidso Gallagher - doesnt sound weak to me - few injuries alright! Plus Niblock and Pollock in England! :'(

Get the job done early next time!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: exiledjohn on October 06, 2011, 12:32:52 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
Simon McCrory joined St. Johns from St. Endas (as a star) at u16. He was a steal.

Did he move for the hurling? Simon was the same age group as me - Enda's offered nothing for a hurler (which is obviously Simon's preference) and offered nothing for a footballer until about U16 when suddenly they were one of the only teams who could get near us when they had a few county players - Niall Devine, Gerard...Crossey?

Simon is from a family of St Johns so the movement is hardly of surprise. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 06, 2011, 03:28:40 PM
Why all of a sudden all this talk about teams transferring in players from other clubs?
if you went through every club in div1 football for instance there wouldnt be one team who had at least one player in their squad who is a blow-in!
and its not only happening at senior level, the great lamh dhearg minor team from last year, was a belfast select lol
it happens so put up with it! and it happens as much in south west as does in south antrim!
gerard o'boyle(creggan/cargin), ryan boyd (randalstown/moneyglass), aidy scullion (ahoghill/rasharkin), mark mcnicholl (randalstown/creggan), phelim mccloskey (randalstown/ portglenone), paddy logan (ahoghill/ballymena).........
need i go on! portglenone even get players from bellaghy reserves!

as for moneyglass getting relegated, its over a season you get relegated not one match in which you aint involved! some clubs should clean up their own backyard before looking at others!

good luck to st galls and all antrim teams involved in ulster!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on October 06, 2011, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 06, 2011, 03:28:40 PM
Why all of a sudden all this talk about teams transferring in players from other clubs?
if you went through every club in div1 football for instance there wouldnt be one team who had at least one player in their squad who is a blow-in!
and its not only happening at senior level, the great lamh dhearg minor team from last year, was a belfast select lol
it happens so put up with it! and it happens as much in south west as does in south antrim!
gerard o'boyle(creggan/cargin), ryan boyd (randalstown/moneyglass), aidy scullion (ahoghill/rasharkin), mark mcnicholl (randalstown/creggan), phelim mccloskey (randalstown/ portglenone), paddy logan (ahoghill/ballymena).........
need i go on! portglenone even get players from bellaghy reserves!

as for moneyglass getting relegated, its over a season you get relegated not one match in which you aint involved! some clubs should clean up their own backyard before looking at others!

good luck to st galls and all antrim teams involved in ulster!
So its ok for Rasharkin to put out a team which conceded 6-19 to Ahoghill? If I was from Moneyglass I wouldn't be happy. Although theres no rule against it, it's against the spirit of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 06, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
it is also in the spirit of the game to not do what most teams do, in that if a player gets rightly sent off for a sending off offence that their club appeals it?!?! and they no doubt get off on a technocality! or that a team plays an illegal player and serve no punishment!

also if someone in a senior team books their wedding 1 or 2 years in advance do they know that it will affect another club staying in a certain division, away and feel your head pat! it could so easily affect their own club!

and if your not from moneyglass why worry, what goes round come round!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 06, 2011, 07:11:19 PM
Anyone know when and where O'Ds Ulster Junior  game is?

I may go for the craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 06, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
Sunday 30th Oct 2011

Ulster Club Junior Football Championship 2011    Quarter Final
Morgan Athletic Grounds - Ard Mhacha v Aontroim

Must be before the St. Gall's game.

Any advance on 3 O'Ds being sent off this year  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 06, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
Sunday 30th Oct 2011

Ulster Club Junior Football Championship 2011    Quarter Final
Morgan Athletic Grounds - Ard Mhacha v Aontroim

Must be before the St. Gall's game.

Any advance on 3 O'Ds being sent off this year  :D

I thought the St Galls game was in Casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2011, 09:45:51 PM
Pretty sure it is.

C'ship draw out. Monaghan away. Could be better and could be worse.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2011, 09:54:45 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 06, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
Sunday 30th Oct 2011

Ulster Club Junior Football Championship 2011    Quarter Final
Morgan Athletic Grounds - Ard Mhacha v Aontroim

Must be before the St. Gall's game.

Any advance on 3 O'Ds being sent off this year  :D

Will be tough for them, what's the Armagh champions like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 08, 2011, 09:37:22 AM
Monaghan's a great draw in that we haven't played them in years in the championship. I can't even remember the last time in league or championship. Glad we didn't get tyrone, donegal or derry as I'm bored playin them.

Away game is good too, never much atmosphere and we always seem to have less support than the away team at casement so we may as well be away with a small but genuine band of followers supporting us. Monaghan are league above us and will prob be favourites no matter what happens in the league but I think we'll have no fear of them. And at least believe we have a chance. If we'd drawn tyrone we'd have been beaten before we even took the park. And if we were fortunate enough to beat monaghan, ferm or down would be teams we could beat on our day.

Another ulster final perhaps!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 10, 2011, 11:54:43 AM
Just want to congratulate the Players and Management of All Saints on yesterday's fantastic victory.It was a hard fought but ultimately well deserved win for the boys.It wasn't the easiest of preparations for a final for either team but both sides deserve great credit for an excellent match.Now we're all off to Cavan next Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on October 10, 2011, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on October 10, 2011, 11:54:43 AM
Just want to congratulate the Players and Management of All Saints on yesterday's fantastic victory.It was a hard fought but ultimately well deserved win for the boys.It wasn't the easiest of preparations for a final for either team but both sides deserve great credit for an excellent match.Now we're all off to Cavan next Sunday.
Who're ye playin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 11, 2011, 07:43:53 AM
We play Drumgoon.They play out of Cootehill.Throw in 1:45pm in Breffni Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 11, 2011, 01:30:38 PM
Congrats to Ballymena on beating Portglenone. Bit premature, but will Ballymena play in the Senior Championship next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 11, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
When we last won Intermediate we entered Senior Championship and were soundly beaten in the first round by none other than Portglenone.A decision won't have been taken yet but I would imagine the players would want to test themselves in the Senior Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 11, 2011, 08:49:30 PM
Just because a team is soundly beaten in their first senior championship game after winning intermediate, they should at least have to stick at it for 3 or more years to allow other intermediate / junior grade teams the chance to win their grade.  O'Ds winning Junior 2 years in a row will do nothing for them.  Show some ambition and try intermediate for a test of how the team is developing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 12, 2011, 04:55:07 PM
I think they should give the senior championship a go and yeah, they might get a hiding depending on who they meet (quite a few teams could take a hiding depending on who they meet), but Portglenone aren't a bad side and Ballymena beat them. It could be a great experience for ballymena and might give them that extra edge in Div 2 if they are training for Senior championship.

I don't a agree with O'Donnells staying in the Junior championship, for me it shows a lack of ambition on their part. I mean they're playing Division 3, playing in the intermediate championship shouldn't be to much of an ask for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2011, 10:25:43 PM
Well done to St Galls tonight, Double winners after winning tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 12, 2011, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 11, 2011, 08:49:30 PM
Just because a team is soundly beaten in their first senior championship game after winning intermediate, they should at least have to stick at it for 3 or more years to allow other intermediate / junior grade teams the chance to win their grade.  O'Ds winning Junior 2 years in a row will do nothing for them.  Show some ambition and try intermediate for a test of how the team is developing.

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2011, 11:10:53 PM
-1 Fair enough if after that one year you have shown the consistency to be up competing with the senior teams in the league. If you haven't there is no shame in going down a level. O'Donnells is a different story. Ballymena were bottom of division 2 for a good while earlier this year. McVeigh only back from London and I dunno if they knew he'd be back and they'd not have won without him I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on October 13, 2011, 12:35:38 PM
McVeigh is a great footballer but the Ballymena team has a great backbone of quality players throughout the pitch. Yes they were bottom for a while but they had serious amount of injuries etc. Look at the positive results for them. Drawing with portglenone and st pauls in the league, beating rasharkin and portglenone convincingly in the feis cup final and championship final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2011, 01:53:50 PM
I wouldn't say great but it does look quite stong for intermediate yes...

Feis cup, while nice to win, not that big a deal. Intermediate a big victory though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: exiledjohn on October 13, 2011, 02:56:35 PM
Just out of interest i notice the 2 McCanns played in most of the championship games this year for All Saints but didnt play final.  Peter maybe lost his spot in the outfield slot but was Paul dropped or initially just filling in as keeper as in the repoart neither started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 13, 2011, 04:06:43 PM
I think teams should give it at least a year at a higher level after they win a championship. If they do get hammered and want to go back down then that's fair enough, at least they gave it a go.
How's Ballymenas new pitch coming along? It's been a while since I've been up there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on October 13, 2011, 05:27:36 PM
Not sure about peter but i heard that paul was injured from the game on wednesday. hopefully he will be fit for the ulster game on Sunday, although if not fit Brian will do a good job for us

new pitch has been finished for a year. been really good to have as the other pitch can get very heavy after a lot of rain. think the juvenile hurlers are still training outside which wouldnt be possible on the 'old' pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 14, 2011, 10:17:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2011, 10:25:43 PM
Well done to St Galls tonight, Double winners after winning tonight
The same night they played Queens in a friendly? Strange.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on October 14, 2011, 10:17:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2011, 10:25:43 PM
Well done to St Galls tonight, Double winners after winning tonight
The same night they played Queens in a friendly? Strange.


Keep up FFS  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 15, 2011, 09:39:02 PM
RIP Paddy McGinley 'Patrique' on Hoganstand --massive poster on that forum

Saffron till he died
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2011, 09:41:42 PM
Aye had many a debate on the stand before i left it. Seen him many times at the games, not many like him

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 15, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 15, 2011, 09:39:02 PM
RIP Paddy McGinley 'Patrique' on Hoganstand --massive poster on that forum

Saffron till he died

I remember him, what age would he have been? Seemed out of place on HS as he was very reasoned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2011, 10:19:15 AM
Paddy Mc Ginley RIP.

I knew Paddy well - A real character in every sense of the word.

Paddy moved into Antrim Town from the city, like many others circa early eighties, and immersed himself in the place. Highly considered as conversationalist, Paddy could hold court in Maddens, The Cova, or Barneys and dish out his own brand of debate on a wide range of subjects.

I say debate because Paddy never offered suggestion - it was always fact. He could hold two or three discussions/debates at the one time, and still be in charge of them all. From his brand of Irish politics, the rights of the workers, horses, football, his favourite subject of all Antrim GAA, or in fact any subject you can think of, Paddy would not be beaten. They were always delivered in the Paddy style, full of passion, knowledge, or simply played better to the audience.

Paddy loved his traditional music too, and with some of his pals could muster up as good a session as you are likely to come across. The coach trips to support his beloved Antrim, which Paddy organised were legendary, and due to Paddy the Antrim town lads could always be seen and heard at all the big games.

His passion was to see Antrim County teams fulfil their potential at the highest level, and his happiest days were the two or three massive years getting up and down the country in support of Jim Nelsons men. And you could see his heart pump with pride on the pitch in Tullamore when we gave the mighty Kerry the scare of their lives. "Always next year FD - Up the saffrons".

Paddy, as anyone who knew him would say, could start a debate in heaven. We all hope wee man you get that chance.

Always next year. But it will be a much quieter, duller place without you. Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 20, 2011, 10:31:50 AM
Hi Milltown.  Is "Linus Harbinson" still managing the St. Galls Footbal team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 01:41:13 PM
Any reason why not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 20, 2011, 04:42:48 PM
A fallout? :D Who's Bishop?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 20, 2011, 05:01:43 PM
Is McGourty not playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 20, 2011, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 04:10:51 PM
Actually just heard they has been a bit of a upturn lets say within the football set up.
The footballers its seems have finally taken a stand and expressed their true feelings.

Bishop standing in for cross game alongside him Kevin Mc Gourty.should be an interesting sideline
So is "Our Linus" getting the proverbial boot?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 06:07:41 PM
 ???Previous post was not by me, seems a I've been hacked! Some help please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 20, 2011, 07:01:41 PM
Now that Baker has a new backround team behind him will he be on the look out for some new fresh players for 2012?

DIV1
St Galls
Cargin
St Johns
Creggan
Rasharkin   
Lamh Dhearg 
St Brigids 
Ahoghill St. Marys
St Pauls
Portglenone *

* Portglenone will secure promotion over Rossa if they beat Sarsfields this weekend.

DIV2
Moneyglass 
Aghagallon 
Rossa
Gort Na Mona
All Saints 
Aldergrove 
Glenavy 
St Endas 
Tir na Nog 
St Teresas

DIV3
Sarsfields 
Glenravel 
Ardoyne 
Dunloy 
O Donnells 
Davitts 
Mc Dermotts 

DIV4/5/6
St Malachys 
St Agnes 
Eire Og
Naomh Comhghall 
Ballycastle 
Lisburn
Patrick Pearses
Mitchels 

Is there anyone out there that should be given the chance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 21, 2011, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 06:07:41 PM
???Previous post was not by me, seems a I've been hacked! Some help please
Maybe the 'bold Linus' at his work, apparently he has been acting the wag over ordering training gear and meddling in sponsorship deals for the footballers, hauled up before the committee :o OMG Linus  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
Your mask is fairly slipping now bac  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 21, 2011, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
Your mask is fairly slipping now bac  ;D
No Milltown, despite what you think, I heard all the latest gossip in a barbers shop yesterday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
Maybe in a black hack on the way to the barber shop? Or behind the casement or rock bar  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 22, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
Maybe in a black hack on the way to the barber shop? Or behind the casement or rock bar  :D
Don't do balck hack's Milltown, too dangerous, don't do pubs either Milltown, Pioneer!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
Maybe in a black hack on the way to the barber shop? Or behind the casement or rock bar  :D
I would say your lads will be up against it next week Milltown, XMaglen a bridge too far and your lads not known for big cahonies!!!!  Cross by 6 IMO!!!   8)

I also hear CJ is in the proverbial shit, after his sneaky move in getting back into Jordanstwon.  I hear a few lads who were rejected are none too happy!!!  This will be worth watching  :-X  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 11:49:34 PM
Read your post again ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 24, 2011, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 11:49:34 PM
Read your post again ffs
Impetuous Milltown, impetuous!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 24, 2011, 07:39:11 PM
Portglenone and Sarsfields game not played.

Anyone know what happened here?

Name : Caman

Well done Rossa senior footballers being promoted to division one. Back where you belong. Hurlers next.

From the county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 24, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
4682beller: PG1 didn't field,pt deducted and today is cut off!We're 2pts clear.Just off phone with whitey, looks like wer up

ODRossaGAC: @4682beller every man woman and child to the club for 4pm if this is true..there is stout to be drunk

ODRossaGAC: @ClubAontroma any truth in the rumours re: div2 cut off was today and with pg1 failing to play we go up...fingers crossed

Tweets from Rossa. They seem to think the "Premier" club is back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 25, 2011, 11:37:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 25, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on October 24, 2011, 07:39:11 PM
Portglenone and Sarsfields game not played.

Anyone know what happened here?

I'm told that Portglenones' pitch was waterlogged and they were asked to play the game away but refused.

Strange way for Rossa to go up but revenge for the time we were robbed by the ref against Sean Stinsons in a minor final many years ago.
I'm told different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on October 25, 2011, 11:44:06 AM
Apparantly they didn't want to go up. A vote resulted in them deciding to stay down another year. Not sure how reliable the source is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 25, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Milltown, why are you're boys objecting to the ref doing the game on Sunday against XMaglen?  Just seen it on BBC Twitter!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2011, 09:14:06 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 25, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Milltown, why are you're boys objecting to the ref doing the game on Sunday against XMaglen?  Just seen it on BBC Twitter!!

Referees don't lose you games, they have judgements to make during the game and you as a player or fan can only hope that they are consistant in their decisions, be they good or bad, that way the players can adopt their play to how he officiates the game.

I was more annoyed last year at how the lines men/umpires  were not more observant to the shenanigans that were going on. I don't blame Cross in fairness, they play on the edge and if they aren't pulled for it then the players should have just got on with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 26, 2011, 12:54:44 PM
Its all gamesmanship MR2 and you know it! 
McQuillan will probably be annoyed, but he will think twice on Sunday, and maybe thats what galls want him to do.
Although it must be reminded that cross had two sent off last year, when he realised he had to even things up - and galls still didnt look like winning!!! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 26, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2011, 09:14:06 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 25, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Milltown, why are you're boys objecting to the ref doing the game on Sunday against XMaglen?  Just seen it on BBC Twitter!!

Referees don't lose you games, they have judgements to make during the game and you as a player or fan can only hope that they are consistant in their decisions, be they good or bad, that way the players can adopt their play to how he officiates the game.

I was more annoyed last year at how the lines men/umpires  were not more observant to the shenanigans that were going on. I don't blame Cross in fairness, they play on the edge and if they aren't pulled for it then the players should have just got on with it
Thanks Milltown, I was not aware of all that guff from last year.  Much appreciated!

I also see McGourty (Snr) I presume is giving the county guestbook a hard time for the refusal to host the Mageean Cup.   There is just no pleasing the McGourty's at all.  Sure it could only be a McGourty!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
something personal Bog?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 27, 2011, 03:20:37 PM
So, are Rossa up or not? The moderator on the Antrim Guestbook seems to think its just a pile of rubbish from the internet.
On a similar note, I'd love to know what some people write on there that is censored with all the  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
There's one on at the minute from AGohill that he seems to think was a ridiculous comment EDIT - looks like that comments been deleted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 28, 2011, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
something personal Bog?
Nah, not at all!  Just can't stand the da, he taught me in La Salle!!!! Absolute bo**ocks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on October 28, 2011, 12:32:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2011, 09:14:06 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 25, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Milltown, why are you're boys objecting to the ref doing the game on Sunday against XMaglen?  Just seen it on BBC Twitter!!

Referees don't lose you games, they have judgements to make during the game and you as a player or fan can only hope that they are consistant in their decisions, be they good or bad, that way the players can adopt their play to how he officiates the game.

I was more annoyed last year at how the lines men/umpires  were not more observant to the shenanigans that were going on. I don't blame Cross in fairness, they play on the edge and if they aren't pulled for it then the players should have just got on with it
From what I remember Gall's were playing on the same edge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2011, 01:28:38 PM
If you would have seen us play on regular bases or even ask our biggest rivals they will honestly tell you we don't employ those tactics, not in the make up of the majority of them. When it comes out it's always caught by the officials. Don't take my word for it., ask around
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2011, 01:50:40 PM
MR while you're not a dirty team at all you do a lot of tactical fouling.

In saying that it's just part of the modern game so you're adapting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on October 28, 2011, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2011, 01:28:38 PM
If you would have seen us play on regular bases or even ask our biggest rivals they will honestly tell you we don't employ those tactics, not in the make up of the majority of them. When it comes out it's always caught by the officials. Don't take my word for it., ask around
I'm not saying that you do, just in that game both teams played on the edge...winners often do. Anyway good tactic to put pressure on McQuillan, no lover of Armagh teams to begin with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2011, 03:59:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2011, 01:50:40 PM
MR while you're not a dirty team at all you do a lot of tactical fouling.

In saying that it's just part of the modern game so you're adapting.

we are intense in the tackle for sure but watch it and you'll see its about surrounding the player and attacking the ball. 9 outta 10 times they are going at the ball. And definitely never nipping, sly digs or dragging players down. Do you agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2011, 11:50:39 PM
There is no malice in your team MR to be fair.

You would do a bit of tactical fouling to slow momentum down at midfield. However all teams do that these days. (I watched you against Cargin the other year in the semi, and you hammered them might I add, but there was quite a bit of tactical fouling went on against Tomas McCann in particular. You've not been just as bad the other days mind)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Alter Ego on October 30, 2011, 04:58:42 AM
Caught out by the hour lads and heading to work, sad news beginning to filter through that RM (Referee) was attacked by a mob of supporters a number of times from Rasharkin yesterday after the U21 semi-final, he was continually kicked and punched by the mob (Players and Supporters) as he tried to get to the changing rooms from all saints 2nd pitch, and only for some mentors from lamh dhearg and his officials he would have been in serious trouble. Taken to hospital I believe when he got away from the changing rooms nearly an hour after the game. Time for real law to be implemented, GAA law and rule book will never sort this type of behaviour out, whatever you think of a referee, these type of incidents need the ultimate sanctions, never mind pitch closures, banned from matches, pure utter Bull, do these people the proper way and get them into court!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 30, 2011, 09:04:29 AM
Jeez, that's not good. If this is true, which I sincerely hope it isn't, then you're right, the punishment needs to come from the court to punish the individuals for assault. Some people think that one you enter GAA grounds you somehow enter a law free zone, the abuse some referees take (whether warranted or not) would get people arrested. The club needs to be seriously punished as well, ban the club for a year and shut down their pitch for the following year, harsh on the good people in the club but this is a serious incident and an example needs to be made.
Again, I'm not sure how much truth there is in this matter, and I hope it is just rumours, but I think people need to wise up and realise refs have a difficult job, they almost always try to be fair and the don't mean to make mistakes. At least they have the balls to go out there and do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2011, 11:29:29 AM
Was speaking to RM this morning. f**king savages they are that's it in a nutshell, what da fcuk did they think they were going to do? 30/40 players and supporters turned into a mob intent of injuring the referee. It could have been a lot worse only for the Lamh Dhearg officials that came to his rescue. Throwing stones also. Barbaric.

The county need to come down real hard on the club, I know there are good people in the club but unfortunately they will have have the suffer the penalties that will come out of this. Kicked out of competitions, and pitch closed for sure.

I hope and i feel he will, that Ray will get the police involved and get the main culprits and do them for assult, Ray had to spend his Saturday in A+E last night and has suffered menally from this also I'd say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 30, 2011, 11:35:41 AM
That's disgraceful, they disgraced their club and the GAA. Fair play to Lamh Dhearg for helping. Those thugs should really be facing jailtime.

Best of luck to Ray, hope he gets better quickly and I wouldn't be surprised if he never refereed another game in his life, and I wouldn't blame him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2011, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: Magicsponge on October 30, 2011, 11:35:41 AM
That's disgraceful, they disgraced their club and the GAA. Fair play to Lamh Dhearg for helping. Those thugs should really be facing jailtime.

Best of luck to Ray, hope he gets better quickly and I wouldn't be surprised if he never refereed another game in his life, and I wouldn't blame him.

Yeah, there will no doubt be a lot of bad press about this but if ya get on like expect no friends or any sympathy .

I hope Ray doesn't pack it in, be one less referee i can call a gobshite during the match and manage to get a smile from ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 30, 2011, 12:29:28 PM
Scumbags.

Absolute tramps.

Shit boggy pitch at Rasharkin and always a dirty dig to the back of the head to welcome you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on October 30, 2011, 06:48:15 PM
Theres always 2 sides to a story,

There was a row on the pitch, between rasharkin and lahm dhearg and how come can you send off 3 rasharkin players and no lahm dhearg
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 30, 2011, 07:42:40 PM
Antrim 2011 you haven't a clue what your talking about.What happened in Ballymena was an absolute disgrace not just to the Gaa but to society in general.The word savages doesn't go even close to describing the actions of Rasharkin supporters yesterday.I sincerely hope the ccc take draconian measures against those animals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2011, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on October 30, 2011, 06:48:15 PM
Theres always 2 sides to a story,

There was a row on the pitch, between rasharkin and lahm dhearg and how come can you send off 3 rasharkin players and no lahm dhearg

So are you saying it was justified? You twat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on October 31, 2011, 12:08:36 AM
Heard about this today, absolute disgrace and has truly angered me. Rasharkin were always a club capable of these actions IMO and was just a matter of a time and a place. Unjustifiable.

The repercussions need to be handed out in full force and is hopefully something the county board will authoritise.

Whatever happens on the pitch, even if you think the referee is being unjust, can never come down to this as it against the morale of the sport which is based on volunteering, togetherness and strong parish and community ethos.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Radda bout yeee on October 31, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
Is Gregory Walsh of Aghagallon the best you have to offer for ulster club games? He is CRAP!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 31, 2011, 10:20:15 AM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 31, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
Is Gregory Walsh of Aghagallon the best you have to offer for ulster club games? He is CRAP!
Theres alot of men in my club that what do porridge for him if they got their hands on him!
>:(
You obviously haven't read the last couple of pages on this page...cos if your club mates think like that then they are the same as the tramps from Rasharkin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 31, 2011, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 31, 2011, 10:20:15 AM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 31, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
Is Gregory Walsh of Aghagallon the best you have to offer for ulster club games? He is CRAP!
Theres alot of men in my club that what do porridge for him if they got their hands on him!
>:(
You obviously haven't read the last couple of pages on this page...cos if your club mates think like that then they are the same as the tramps from Rasharkin.

Yeah, you posted that at the worst possible time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on October 31, 2011, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on October 31, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
Is Gregory Walsh of Aghagallon the best you have to offer for ulster club games? He is CRAP!
Theres alot of men in my club that what do porridge for him if they got their hands on him!
>:(

bad taste  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Radda bout yeee on October 31, 2011, 11:43:43 AM
Apologies - Never read any of this thread before. It was more a figure of speech than anything else but i have edited it now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 31, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
Whens the South Antrim AGM?

I'll have to have a word with the old man and get him to put his name forward for the committee.

Means I wont have to pay into Casement ever again, will get to sit beside the big wigs in the stand and will get me on the county panel.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 31, 2011, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 31, 2011, 01:20:27 PM
I was at the game, the referee boxed a young fella from Rasharkin.

Find that hard to believe. If he did then it must have been under serious provocation or maybe he was trying to protect himself, Rasharkin are a very hostile crowd and I can imagine the abuse RM took even during the match. I wasn't at the match and don't know what actually happened but find it hard to believe a referee would punch a player without a good reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on October 31, 2011, 02:02:28 PM
Ray Mathews is not the type, so I find it very hard to believe he struck anyone except possibly in self defence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 31, 2011, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2011, 02:09:42 PM
Who punched first?
It doesn't matter who punched first.  No referee or official deserves this sort of treatment, good bad or indifferent!  Absolutely BAS***** of the first order.  Lets just see what this county will do with Rasharkin, very little in my experience!  This blight on our game needs to be obliterated once and for all.  I would urge all clubs to request and table at county convention to have Rasharkin banned from our association, once and for all.  Let them focus their negative energies on the orange parades that pass through their village, that would suit them loads better, but somehow, I don't thinks so!  Nothing but spineless scum.

I would also call on all referees to take action as well.  Refuse to officiate at All County/SA & SW games until Rasharkin are banned from the association by this county's executive!  Whilst I would suggest all referees (good, bad or indifferent) might support such an action, I fear there are those who cannot see beyond their own egotistical persona's and would not support this motion!  If they are serious about their support of RM and others, let them now stand up and be counted on this one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on October 31, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15524687

Looks like Owen Elliot doing linesman was also injured. County meeting tonight to discuss it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 31, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 31, 2011, 02:02:28 PM
Ray Mathews is not the type, so I find it very hard to believe he struck anyone except possibly in self defence.
Was speaking to a good friend who was at the game, it was most definitely in self defence ,was never at Ballymena pitch but apparently the incident was exacerbated because of the distance of the pitch to the changing rooms
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 01, 2011, 08:53:09 AM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 31, 2011, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2011, 02:09:42 PM
Who punched first?
It doesn't matter who punched first.  No referee or official deserves this sort of treatment, good bad or indifferent!  Absolutely BAS***** of the first order.  Lets just see what this county will do with Rasharkin, very little in my experience!  This blight on our game needs to be obliterated once and for all.  I would urge all clubs to request and table at county convention to have Rasharkin banned from our association, once and for all.  Let them focus their negative energies on the orange parades that pass through their village, that would suit them loads better, but somehow, I don't thinks so!  Nothing but spineless scum.

I would also call on all referees to take action as well.  Refuse to officiate at All County/SA & SW games until Rasharkin are banned from the association by this county's executive!  Whilst I would suggest all referees (good, bad or indifferent) might support such an action, I fear there are those who cannot see beyond their own egotistical persona's and would not support this motion!  If they are serious about their support of RM and others, let them now stand up and be counted on this one!

Of course it matters who punched first.  Unless any of us were at the game then none of us know if the referee threw the first dig and started the whole handling, although I doubt that is the case.  But people seem to like to make up their own story of what happened withoiut knowing much about what actually happened.  Anyone player, management member or official who strikes someone first has no defence. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 01, 2011, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 01, 2011, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on October 30, 2011, 06:48:15 PM
Theres always 2 sides to a story,

There was a row on the pitch, between rasharkin and lahm dhearg and how come can you send off 3 rasharkin players and no lahm dhearg
So this justifies bricks being thrown at the man? I hope Rasharkin are relegated to Division 6 for this. And their pitch closed for all games above minor.

Bricks were thrown at him? That's despicable. I don't think you're harsh enough, they should be banned from all competitions, football and hurling at all age groups for a year or 2. They should be relegated to division 2 or 3 (div 6 would be pointless as they are too good for that) and Division 4 in hurling. Once the ban is over then ban then from using their own pith for another year or 2. The police need to be involved and people need to be prosecuted. If the club co-operate with the police and give up names then maybe the punishment on the club should reflect this co-operation.
I know there are some really good people in the club but this sort of thing is just not on. Unfortunately the good people need to be punished as well, make the others think twice next time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 01, 2011, 06:52:55 PM
A complete disgrace is all that can be said. Mindless thugs who have brought down the name a what has been a well behaved club in the last few years. I know the st marys club had made a huge effort in wedding out these sorts of people. My own thoughts are that its a disgrace that ballymena was used for this game. There is a long walk for a players and match officials alike and something like this has been brewing for a long time. This in no way excuses the disgraceful scenes that happened. Throw the book at them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 01, 2011, 06:57:08 PM
Sometimes refs ride teams over--look at Louth last year, Kildare the last few years etc. It kills you and makes you wonder why a team would bother training when it can all be ruined by some incompetant middle aged fool. It leaves you madddened and raging, never more so than when it's againsy your own club or county.

Does anyone remember Tullamore 09, Antrim v Kerry. The ref in the 2nd half gave Kerry frees to beat the band. Frees for wearing green and frees for having  agold band. Seriously, dodgy, nothing in it frees that Cooper swung over--possibly 5 /6 in scoring positions in 2nd half that were questionable.

I was mad, raging, i'm not the sort who defers to another team and says oh sure we gave it a go, sure they are Tyrone/Kerry/Man Utd-it f**king maddened me that day and i still blame the ref ...but.....i wouldnt run around like a f**king hallion attacking a ref, throwing bricks at him--this is ridiculous and serious sanctions need dished out.

Gold's friend was once sent off in an fresher's semi years ago, Gold's friend's 'crime' was  pushing a man (who had just fouled Gold's friend) in the chest out of the road so he could take a quick free. The injured party barely moved and didnt complain. Gold's friend got a straight red card for 'striking', missed an all ireland final and got a 2 month ban from all football competitions. Gold's friend assured Gold he was most annoyed about the injustice of it all, that he had never before received a yellow card, that he felt physically ill at the waste of training and inability to play at a busy time of year, the game he loved, but he also assured Gold that he would not chase said referee like a hallion, nor punch or throw bricks at him.

RM is a decent man, decent ref in my experience who calls things exactly as he sees them, he is not an incompetant referee, far from it.

I wasnt there so cant definitively comment on what happended but am of little doubt that a crowd of 30 or more chasing, punching, throwing bricks and hospitalizing a referee cannot be justified.

If i was a ref and if that happened to me i'd have no hesitation involving the police. Any one of those punches or bricks could have killed R Matthews. What would have happened if the mob caught him? What were they planning? Would they have kicked him to death, hit him with bricks to death? OVER AN ANTRIM UNDER 21 CLUB MEDAL?

It's harsh on any good club member when their club are involved in incidents such as this as the innocent suffer but what's the alternative? Has to be serious action taken to back RM and ensure such an incident doesnt recur.

What was it on the news last week--18 people have died in 1 punch assaults in the North in the last 7 years? What the Rasharkin mob were doing was utter madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: eddie d on November 01, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
well said gold

nrico2006 it doesnt matter who threw the first punch, even if the ref did punch first, it doesnt justify him been chased down by a 20+ mob, that is most likely mainly cowards who would shit a brick if they didnt have anyone to back them up.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on November 01, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
Paddy John one of the main reasons the game was held at Ballymena was undoubtedly the quality of the playing surface at Quinn Park especially at this time of year.All Saints have hosted countless club and college games since the new pitch was opened.Many of these games have been hard fought with sendings off,contentious refereeing decisions etc.At the end of each and every one of these games both sets of teams and their supporters have crossed the road back over to Slemish Park without one single solitary incident.
Your assertion that the distance to the changing rooms was a cause of the trouble only acts to muddy the waters.Thousands of people have made the small trip from Quinn Park over to Slemish Park and the only incident that has taken place was on Saturday.The cause of Saturday's trouble lies squarely with Rasharkin and no one else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 01, 2011, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on November 01, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
Paddy John one of the main reasons the game was held at Ballymena was undoubtedly the quality of the playing surface at Quinn Park especially at this time of year.All Saints have hosted countless club and college games since the new pitch was opened.Many of these games have been hard fought with sendings off,contentious refereeing decisions etc.At the end of each and every one of these games both sets of teams and their supporters have crossed the road back over to Slemish Park without one single solitary incident.
Your assertion that the distance to the changing rooms was a cause of the trouble only acts to muddy the waters.Thousands of people have made the small trip from Quinn Park over to Slemish Park and the only incident that has taken place was on Saturday.The cause of Saturday's trouble lies squarely with Rasharkin and no one else.

Wasn't much in the way of quality about the surface in the height of summer when it was being used as a car park for the feis  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 01, 2011, 11:45:40 PM
dont think anybody can blame Ballymena for this. The playing facilities are first class. Small walk to the pitch from the changing rooms but this, as someone has stated before was never a problem before. When supporters/players want to behave in this manner then no club in the county could provide enough protection for referees. Look at the incident in Croke park last year with Sludden. Stewards etc in place and the man still gets attacked. I feel sorry for the good people of Rasharkin who are brought down by these thugs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2011, 09:12:38 AM
I never once blamed Ballymena for it. I am saying that the walk from the pitch to changing rooms didn't help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on November 02, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2011, 09:12:38 AM
I never once blamed Ballymena for it. I am saying that the walk from the pitch to changing rooms didn't help.
No sorry what didn't help was the actions of mindless thugs who blamed the referee for the sendings off instaed at looking at the behaviour that led to said sendings off. my understanding is that Lamh Dearg were 5 points up when the incident in the game happened and won by 6. I also understand that the Ref acted on advice from the linesman. Even in the example quoted by gold above, whilst the ref may have made mistakes, having watched both games the losers should not have been in the position to be beaten...they had ample opportunities to win the match but didn't take them. Refs can be porr, have off days and make mistakes but the beauty about gaelic games is that the beter team still gets opportunities to win. If they don't take them are they really the better team? Any way noe of this as Gold rightly says gives anyone the right or moral authority to attack a referee. Refereeing is a lonely job, even when you have neutral officials. If clubs can't ensure their safety why would they continue. I have seen this shit about RM throwing the first punch, I don't believe it but even if he did strike plus surely the 20 or 30 thugs attacking him bear some responsibility? Either way the Antrim Boardd and the Police need to act strongly. and it's times we got behind referees. Even County Boards see them as cannon fodder. Time for change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
Applesisapples:I couldn't agree more. Maybe I didn't explain my thoughts in the clearest of ways. I really hope the county stand up and do the right thing and the culprits are dealt with by the proper authorities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 02, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
I can't see anything other than draconian levels of punishment thrown at Rasharkin for this incident, given the level of previous sentencing for offences against referees this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 02, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
I can't see anything other than draconian levels of punishment thrown at Rasharkin for this incident, given the level of previous sentencing for offences against referees this year.

We lost the use of our pitch for two months because some of our players (div 5 team) were calling the referee a cheating bastard after a close championship match, after a last minute free given to win the match.

So use of pitch will certainly be one action, we had a fine also so i expect the book to be thrown at Rasharkin here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 02, 2011, 02:31:53 PM
Everybody looks happy in the photo on the Rasharkin website: http://www.rasharkingac.ie/home.asp
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 02:58:42 PM
Cant believe they put that up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 02, 2011, 04:55:56 PM
Thats what I was thinking too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 02, 2011, 05:23:43 PM
I can't believe they put that up either and not mention the fight or show any regret towards the incident. That's one thing that annoys me is that they haven't shown any remorse or apologised for the incident. No doubt there are people in the club that are absolutely mortified by what happened, but I can't help but think that there are some people who believe their actions were justified. Rasharkin people, in my experience, are always quick to blame the referee for them losing matches, no matter how good or bad he was and this possibly didn't help matters. I can't deny that the standard of refereeing in the county isn't exactly brilliant but this is a complete over reaction that should not happen, ever. Not even if the referee intentionally lost you the game, not even then would a reaction like this be justifiable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 02, 2011, 10:23:13 PM
Rasharkin people, in my experience, are just like any other GAA club.  They have the good, the bad and the embarrassing.  They are a proud crowd and it would be very wrong for anyone here to tar them all with the same brush because of a crowd of bad people.  As you rightly said, there will be people completely embarrassed by this in their club.

All clubs have their dickheads, not one doesn't.  The club will get punished, there's no doubt about that but there are a lot of good people in Rasharkin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 02, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 02, 2011, 10:23:13 PM
Rasharkin people, in my experience, are just like any other GAA club.  They have the good, the bad and the embarrassing.  They are a proud crowd and it would be very wrong for anyone here to tar them all with the same brush because of a crowd of bad people.  As you rightly said, there will be people completely embarrassed by this in their club.

All clubs have their d**kheads, not one doesn't.  The club will get punished, there's no doubt about that but there are a lot of good people in Rasharkin.

I cant think of many other clubs in Antrim that would have behaved like that shower of shit did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 02, 2011, 10:44:40 PM
But they aren't all a shower of shit friend.  I know at least 6 people well enough from Rasharkin who are the best of people.  What happened was wrong and the book should be thrown at them but it doesn't make it right to run them all down because of the actions of a few. 

I have no problem calling the ones who did it a 'shower of shit' but that doesn't mean everyone in Rasharkin should be 'showers of shit'. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 02, 2011, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 02, 2011, 10:44:40 PM
But they aren't all a shower of shit friend.  I know at least 6 people well enough from Rasharkin who are the best of people.  What happened was wrong and the book should be thrown at them but it doesn't make it right to run them all down because of the actions of a few. 

I have no problem calling the ones who did it a 'shower of shit' but that doesn't mean everyone in Rasharkin should be 'showers of shit'.

I didn't say they are all a shower of shit but the ones that pursued Ray Matthews are, without a doubt. As I said you wouldn't get that behaviour from the majority of clubs, most right minded people realise at the end of the day it is only a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 02, 2011, 10:53:28 PM
I know a lot of people from Rasharkin from over the years and there are a lot of good people there. Gusty Crawford, Hassons, McMullans etc are all good decent GAA people. (Incidentally the guy who used to post on here - JohnJoe I think - was one of the decent ones)

There are a few guys, and a select few might I add, who are involved with them though who are as scummy as anyone who you would see involved with the GAA. It is unfortunate for Rasharkin yet again that there name will be tarnished by people like this. This wouldn't be their first incident with the police in the last few years.

The punishment for this will be bad. How Matthews will come back from this I don't know. I feel for the good GAA people in Rasharkin and the ref - it's sad times when a football match comes to someone's personal safety is breached as much as that going out to play a game. There is no excuse for any of it no matter who says what - distance to changing rooms, a ref punching to defend himself etc are all irrelevant - whoever started this should be banned for life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:46:02 AM
Good to see so many of you jumping on the bandwagon to put Rasharkin down. Number one how many of you lot posting rubbish on here where at the game? I can imagine none of you! No one can say what happened on Saturday can be justified and im not trying to. But RM struck a player he had the player needing hospital treatment now this has nothing to do with 'self defence' he ATTACKED a young fella as the fella was on his way to out of the changing area! As for linesman OE needing treatment that is a down right lie this man stood in the car park ASKING people to hit him "Go on it me you tr**p...Not one of you Rasharkin bas**rds are fit to" Its time alot of you wised up. As for bricks being thrown that is the biggest load of tripe i have ever heard where did the bricks come from? There were NONE! On to some of you mindless muppets you try to tar ever Rasharkin person with the same brush "Shower of shit" and  "Absolute scumbags" Its great slanndering people from behind a keyboard isnt how brave are you lot! If your going to post about something you have no notion about please try not to be so narrow minded and understand that half of what your reading if far from the truth after all since when did the media sell the truth!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 03, 2011, 12:54:54 AM
Que the 60 replies...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:59:04 AM
Yes look forward to reading more tripe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Forever Green on November 03, 2011, 01:03:22 AM
Owen Elliot always was a bit of a tube
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 03, 2011, 01:06:28 AM
You're not going to win friends with a first post like that mate.  I understand your club is taking a hammering at the minute but there was clearly wrongdoing happening from Rasharkins point of view regardless of whether RM punched someone first or not.  I wasn't at the game either but official's being attacked is simply unacceptable behaviour by one, two, three of fourty people in a car park.

You may be incensed at the referee's decisions/actions or whatever but its hardly fair for crowds to gang up and attack a referee and threaten/attack another official.  It's wrong in a school playground and its certainly wrong at our associations pitches. 

Remember, i'm trying to defend the good people in your club but nobody can defend the indefensible.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: customsandrevenue on November 03, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:46:02 AM

But RM struck a player he had the player needing hospital treatment now this has nothing to do with 'self defence' he ATTACKED a young fella as the fella was on his way to out of the changing area!


These are quotes non viewers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: customsandrevenue on November 03, 2011, 01:56:39 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:46:02 AM

As for linesman OE needing treatment that is a down right lie this man stood in the car park ASKING people to hit him "Go on it me you tr**p...Not one of you Rasharkin bas**rds are fit to"

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: customsandrevenue on November 03, 2011, 01:58:37 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:46:02 AM

Its time alot of you wised up. As for bricks being thrown that is the biggest load of tripe i have ever heard where did the bricks come from? There were NONE!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: customsandrevenue on November 03, 2011, 02:03:01 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:46:02 AM

On to some of you mindless muppets you try to tar ever Rasharkin person with the same brush "Shower of shit" and  "Absolute scumbags" Its great slanndering people from behind a keyboard isnt how brave are you lot! If your going to post about something you have no notion about please try not to be so narrow minded and understand that half of what your reading if far from the truth after all since when did the media sell the truth!


The man who writes the stuff in green on the Antrim Guestbook site also detests the keyboard crowd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: customsandrevenue on November 03, 2011, 02:12:09 AM
Take the parts of the incident one at a time to make an overall picture.
Not some cheapo tabloid 'achievement'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 09:42:06 AM
Good point, where did the bricks come from? Obviously some parts are going to be greatly exaggerated but what happened was still inexcusable. I realise that it was only a small part of your club that participated in the attack but you can't expect to just get a slap on the wrist. This year countless clubs have had their home pitches taken off them for 1 or 2 individuals who shouted some nasty words, if this is anything to go by, and unless the county wusses out, then your club can expect a serious punishment. This sort of thing should never happen and its up to the club people to reign in the more volatile members and this didn't happen.
As for RM hitting a player leaving the changing room, this was presumably after/during the fight. Did this player participate in the assault at all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2011, 09:48:55 AM
Was this before or after the players went in and got changed to come back out and join the mob?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 03, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
Quote from: customsandrevenue on November 03, 2011, 02:12:09 AM
Take the parts of the incident one at a time to make an overall picture.
Not some cheapo tabloid 'achievement'.

??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 10:13:10 AM
While not there i spoke to the referee himself and another official who was doing umpire duties (the following morning). I'm happy to accept their versions than that guy who hides behind a keyboard called enough!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 03, 2011, 11:34:18 AM
I am a Rasharkin man, and i love my Gaelic club. My Grandfather, father, brothers all played for the club. My children play Football and Hurling for the club. This is the saddest week for St Marys. I am totally disgusted by what happened at Ballymena. Unlike many who post, i was at the game. What happened to RM was totally inexcusable and i know the police are involved and i hope those who carried out the actions against Ray feel the full force of the law. We have a very bad element within our club and village, and despite the efforts of many good men and women within St Marys we have found it impossible to get ride of these people. There were no bricks thrown!  The behaviour of some of our " supporters" beggered belief, and for the few of us who tried to stop the hooligans plenty of abuse was thrown our way too. I would thank the Lamh Dhearg mentors for helping protect the referee, they showed great courage and wish the Hannanhtown lads well for the u21 final. Our club are carrying out a through investigation and i hope and pray we, that we , as a club and individuals have the courage to stand up to these louts and end their involvement in our club once and for all. As far as apologies go, i can say that this has been done privately to those concerned and with utmost sincerity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2011, 11:40:30 AM
I don't think you can say fairer than that. A fine post

Very important that decent people stand up to the scum or else we all end up living in scum controlled communities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on November 03, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2011, 11:40:30 AM
I don't think you can say fairer than that. A fine post

Very important that decent people stand up to the scum or else we all end up living in scum controlled communities.
+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2011, 12:10:56 PM
This was my point that the whole club is punished for the actions of a few, very difficult to do it any other way but it has to be done in some way.

Good post RG
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:50:22 PM
RG you being at the game and by my understanding would you also say that members of Lamh Dhearg have questions to answer for when a Rasharkin player was attacked by an umbrella and is off to see a specialist tomorrow about the broken nose he suffered as a result of a number of Lamh Dhearg club people? Going back to CAR your still believing whats being said in the media. RM didnt excatly cover himself in glory with is antics. Of course he isnt going to say he struck a player how would that look to the Ulster Board! Everyone knows the club will get the book thrown at them but its also important people know all sides had their fair share of sinners!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2011, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 12:50:22 PM
RG you being at the game and by my understanding would you also say that members of Lamh Dhearg have questions to answer for when a Rasharkin player was attacked by an umbrella and is off to see a specialist tomorrow about the broken nose he suffered as a result of a number of Lamh Dhearg club people? Going back to CAR your still believing whats being said in the media. RM didnt excatly cover himself in glory with is antics. Of course he isnt going to say he struck a player how would that look to the Ulster Board! Everyone knows the club will get the book thrown at them but its also important people know all sides had their fair share of sinners!

What was a Rasharkin player doing in a mob attempting to attack a referee?
Should he not have been in the changing room disappointed having just lost a championship match?

Enough stop trying to deflect here it isnt working and making you out to look ridiculous, instead of standing up with your club mate and agreeing with his post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
I doubt all sides had their fair fair share of sinners. By the sounds of it Rasharkin had more than their fair share. I think you should own up to what your club mates have done and maybe show some remorse about the incident.

Good post RG, Your post proves that we shouldn't tar you all with the same brush. Do you think punishing the whole club, good people and all, will make the bad ones wise up and maybe act a bit more sensibly? It will be harsh on the good people in the club, who would never do this, but unfortunately it has to be done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Think you will find the hooligan element will revert back to the soccer for the winter and wont take a fizz out of them while the real Gaels are the ones to suffer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 02:05:34 PM
He wasnt in any mob he was making his way to the changing rooms and attacked. If you had been there you would know this, the young fella is cut to bits about it many people in our club know the fella well and i 100% can say he is no more a mobster than we are Dutch men! NAG1 i agree with parts of my club mates post but i WILL continue to post every bit of the truth here! Yes a referee being struck is a serious thing and yes the people in all parties involved in any scenes at our GAA games need punished. Are you all so narrow minded that you cant see Rasharkin people had suffered to the two fellas spent their nights in Coleraine A&E as a result of Saturday. Magicsponcge cant you get your thick head around the fact that the truth harms all parties yes Rasharkin my have done more than others. But i will tell you again Rasharkin Lamh Dhearg RM and OE have alot to answer for. I was speaking to a fella from Dunloy (no love lost between Our club and theirs) who was at the game. He wittnessed the attack on the fella with the broken nose and has said he will be putting what he seen in writting and sending it to the CCC. Nag many of these 'Gaels' play soccer so that comment is totally irrelevant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Enough, I never said that I believed RM or Lamh Dhearg did nothing wrong (I don't know if they did or they didn't), I just said Rasharkin seemed to have instigated most of the trouble, earlier I conceded that most what has been said has probably been exaggerated to the detriment of Rasharkin and your point about bricks was valid as people were unlikely to bring bricks with them and I can't see many just being left lying around!
I still think that, given the fact that clubs have lost the use of their pitch due to verbal abuse, that Rasharkin will severley punished and rightly so. I don't know if RM or Lamh Dhearg should be punished as well, maybe they should if it turns out that the aren't saints in this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on November 03, 2011, 03:51:49 PM
And I  suppose the three or four carloads of Rasharkin supporters who parked down the road were merely waiting to apologise the referee.F******g bullshit!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on November 03, 2011, 03:51:49 PM
And I  suppose the three or four carloads of Rasharkin supporters who parked down the road were merely waiting to apologise the referee.F******g bullshit!!

Yet an other rumor that you wish to believe in! Come down off you high horse and stop talking rubbish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Enough, I never said that I believed RM or Lamh Dhearg did nothing wrong (I don't know if they did or they didn't), I just said Rasharkin seemed to have instigated most of the trouble, earlier I conceded that most what has been said has probably been exaggerated to the detriment of Rasharkin and your point about bricks was valid as people were unlikely to bring bricks with them and I can't see many just being left lying around!
I still think that, given the fact that clubs have lost the use of their pitch due to verbal abuse, that Rasharkin will severley punished and rightly so. I don't know if RM or Lamh Dhearg should be punished as well, maybe they should if it turns out that the aren't saints in this.

As i have said what happend on Saturday has brought a dark cloud not only over Rasharkin but also the GAA. I the 30 to 40 seconds of madness what happened the whole thing has been blew out of context. But yes each party involved needs to ask serious questions on themselfs. And whom ever has been involved in any actions not matter it against players linesmen referees or even supporters on both side need to be stongly punished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Can I ask, what exactly did Lamh Dhearg do wrong here, bar hitting a player with an umbrella? And what on earth were players doing in the middle of this mob, I'm assuming he wasn't hit in the middle of the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:32:20 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Can I ask, what exactly did Lamh Dhearg do wrong here, bar hitting a player with an umbrella? And what on earth were players doing in the middle of this mob, I'm assuming he wasn't hit in the middle of the pitch

There was a Rasharkin player who suffered a broken nose now no umbrella broke his nose he has told the club he was kicked and punched untill a member of Ballymena got this crowd off him and i know 100% that fighting isnt this fellas thing. The player wasnt in the middle of any mob as i have already pointed out. He went to get his car keys off his mother and was attacked. Can this be justified?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.

No Milltown i wont. The club has been in touch with Ray. Yet the fella still hasnt heard a word from Ray, surely Ray will be man enough!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.

No Milltown i wont. The club has been in touch with Ray. Yet the fella still hasnt heard a word from Ray, surely Ray will be man enough.


Man

man enough!! Keep digging fella. You've been told wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on November 03, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.

No Milltown i wont. The club has been in touch with Ray. Yet the fella still hasnt heard a word from Ray, surely Ray will be man enough!
You really are making a mug of yourself. Can you expect us to believe that Ray Mathews walking of the pitch decided to start a fight by punching a Rhasarkin player just for the hell of it? If the player approached Ray why? And why in the middle of a crowd of irrate supporters? Or is this mob a myth as well? If Ray Mathews struck someone whilst defending himself he has nothing to apologise for. If we believe your version then the headlines would have read "Ref attacks players and supporters". I am glad RG has posted here to show us that not all Rasharkin Gaels think attacking a referee is justified in anyway.
Title: !
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.

No Milltown i wont. The club has been in touch with Ray. Yet the fella still hasnt heard a word from Ray, surely Ray will be man enough.


Man

man enough!! Keep digging fella. You've been told wrong

Keep digging im not getting into any holes. No i havent been told wrong when your one of many wittnesses your not wrong! Had you been there and not going my hearsay you would know the truth. Im not getting away from the fact what happend Ray was wrong but he was equally wrong. At least admit that point!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 03, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes im told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.

No Milltown i wont. The club has been in touch with Ray. Yet the fella still hasnt heard a word from Ray, surely Ray will be man enough!
You really are making a mug of yourself. Can you expect us to believe that Ray Mathews walking of the pitch decided to start a fight by punching a Rhasarkin player just for the hell of it? If the player approached Ray why? And why in the middle of a crowd of irrate supporters? Or is this mob a myth as well? If Ray Mathews struck someone whilst defending himself he has nothing to apologise for. If we believe your version then the headlines would have read "Ref attacks players and supporters". I am glad RG has posted here to show us that not all Rasharkin Gaels think attacking a referee is justified in anyway.

You seem to me missing a valid point here RM hit a player in the changing are where if he had walked directly into his changing room he wouldnt have been near the Rasharkin dressing room i you know the Ballymena set up you will understand what i am talking about. The player never approached Ray, Ray approached the player for what ever reason! You seem to narrowminded to understand so il be waiting on your next silly point. After all you wernt there!
Title: Re: !
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:48:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2011, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
Has rashakin got in touch with Ray to apologise ?

Has Ray got in touch with the player he struck! And yes I'm told Rasharkin have been In touch with Ray

listen lad, stop talking white please.

No Milltown i wont. The club has been in touch with Ray. Yet the fella still hasnt heard a word from Ray, surely Ray will be man enough.


Man

man enough!! Keep digging fella. You've been told wrong

Keep digging im not getting into any holes. No i havent been told wrong when your one of many wittnesses your not wrong! Had you been there and not going my hearsay you would know the truth. Im not getting away from the fact what happend Ray was wrong but he was equally wrong. At least admit that point!
Nobody believes the shite you are pedalling to try to weasel your sc**bag clubmates out of the punishment they are going to get rammed into them and I hope it's a fcukin big one. Tramps.

Maybe if people would open their eyes and realise that theres a TRUTH behind what you read in papers or see on the BBC. I have already said those who done anything need serious punishment NO MATTER IT RASHARKIN HANNAHTOWN RM OE all parties in a serious incident now catch yourself on and wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
So, Anyone know when this matter will be dealt with? I thought there was a meeting about it on Monday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 03, 2011, 05:00:45 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on November 03, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
So, Anyone know when this matter will be dealt with? I thought there was a meeting about it on Monday

There is a meeting to night nearly sure its the CCC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 05:07:04 PM
Meeting tonight. Reports are in. Tell me this enough, would you defend yourself if put in that position? I know what i would do. Had ray not  been attacked by the mob everyone would have went home without incident. Is that not True?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Alter Ego on November 03, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Oh Jesus looked what I've missed today, time to clear up a few issues. I sat last night(Queens v UUJ) with a high ranking official and he told it as it was as he was caught up in it. Allegedly all below is a rough account

Match Finished a 4.11pm
Match Officials Instructed by All Saints to stay on pitch as some supporters are going to get the referee- Fact
Match officials tried to exit field at 4.19
Match officilas just missed by 1 large boulder thrown
Match officials stopped from heading down lane by crowd ( while being abused and spat at)
Referee chinned by man whose nickname is the same as ( A man that works the land for a living)
Referee and linesman punched and kicked by supporters and players who had gone to the changing room to take off jerseys and re-join crowd back across the road
Mob spilled out onto road still abusing and kicking group surrounding ref
Mob sustained attacks on group protecting Referee until reaching changing room gates( Time is now 4.35 ish)
OE linesman attacked by Snr Club official, relative wearing 21 St Marys TTCollege jersey joins in( Hope he's not thinking of being a teacher!), Referee tries to defend OE and Number 21 attacks Referee, self defensive I believe begins at this point

This above account is all alleged by the way, but I'm sure gives a general idea of the goings on, oh yes Referee and officials leave ground eventually after crowd dispersed around 5.40 ish some afternoon serving the GAA as a volunteer  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 03, 2011, 05:46:42 PM
Oh dear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 03, 2011, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 02, 2011, 02:31:53 PM
Everybody looks happy in the photo on the Rasharkin website: http://www.rasharkingac.ie/home.asp

The smiling picture is no more!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on November 03, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
Rasharkin are muck savages. Always have been. This wasn't just a moment of madness - it's been brewing for a long time. The club as as a whole will be punished because the club as a whole bears responsibility. Wasn't their pitch closed a couple of years ago because their members came over the fence? Didn't they put the Glenravel manager in hospital with a broken jaw before that (a coward's punch from behind I recall)? Too many apologists in the club. Too many "victims". Too many deals done behind closed doors instead of zero tolerance. Always somebody else started it, was asking for it.

Enough, the sad, pathetic apologist's shite you have spouted in this thread would be an embarassment to any other club, but not to a sizable number of Rasharkin ones I am sure of that. Enough said (pun intended...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2011, 10:57:07 PM
Mucksavages live everywhere and are a blight on the communities where they exist. Some people seem to lag behind be it education or evolution I don't know but the caveman instinct is very much to the fore with these types
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2011, 12:26:27 AM
Quote from: Alter Ego on November 03, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Oh Jesus looked what I've missed today, time to clear up a few issues. I sat last night(Queens v UUJ) with a high ranking official and he told it as it was as he was caught up in it. Allegedly all below is a rough account

Match Finished a 4.11pm
Match Officials Instructed by All Saints to stay on pitch as some supporters are going to get the referee- Fact
Match officials tried to exit field at 4.19
Match officilas just missed by 1 large boulder thrown
Match officials stopped from heading down lane by crowd ( while being abused and spat at)
Referee chinned by man whose nickname is the same as ( A man that works the land for a living)
Referee and linesman punched and kicked by supporters and players who had gone to the changing room to take off jerseys and re-join crowd back across the road
Mob spilled out onto road still abusing and kicking group surrounding ref
Mob sustained attacks on group protecting Referee until reaching changing room gates( Time is now 4.35 ish)
OE linesman attacked by Snr Club official, relative wearing 21 St Marys TTCollege jersey joins in( Hope he's not thinking of being a teacher!), Referee tries to defend OE and Number 21 attacks Referee, self defensive I believe begins at this point

This above account is all alleged by the way, but I'm sure gives a general idea of the goings on, oh yes Referee and officials leave ground eventually after crowd dispersed around 5.40 ish some afternoon serving the GAA as a volunteer  :'(

Even if 50% of this is accurate, it's like something from the caveman era . Has there been some blockage in human development in that part of the world?


Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 03, 2011, 11:34:18 AM
I am a Rasharkin man, and i love my Gaelic club. My Grandfather, father, brothers all played for the club. My children play Football and Hurling for the club. This is the saddest week for St Marys. I am totally disgusted by what happened at Ballymena. Unlike many who post, i was at the game. What happened to RM was totally inexcusable and i know the police are involved and i hope those who carried out the actions against Ray feel the full force of the law. We have a very bad element within our club and village, and despite the efforts of many good men and women within St Marys we have found it impossible to get ride of these people. There were no bricks thrown!  The behaviour of some of our " supporters" beggered belief, and for the few of us who tried to stop the hooligans plenty of abuse was thrown our way too. I would thank the Lamh Dhearg mentors for helping protect the referee, they showed great courage and wish the Hannanhtown lads well for the u21 final. Our club are carrying out a through investigation and i hope and pray we, that we , as a club and individuals have the courage to stand up to these louts and end their involvement in our club once and for all. As far as apologies go, i can say that this has been done privately to those concerned and with utmost sincerity.

This admirable post shows how difficult the situation is for the club. How do you rid your club of supporters and players of suck ilk when they could possibly cause even more harm if ostracised?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 04, 2011, 11:48:20 AM
I think everyone should remember that alot of the posts here are gossip and hearsay, and some very malicious things too. The ccc met last night to discuss the referees report and as yet not responded to st marys with their ruling. The attack on the referee was shameful, but over time the full facts with emerge and alot more people than Rasharkin will be in trouble for their behaviour that day. There were no stones, bottles bricks etc thrown at anyone. The referee was injured, a linesman was injured ( he was not protecting the referee when this occurred and has some serious questions to answer as regards his role in all this ), two rasharkin players ended up in hospital. A complete disaster. The rantings of the moneyglass man about rasharkin doing this sort of thing before and mentioning the incident a number of years ago with the glenravel manager don not help anyone and the part he left out of that story was that the glenravel manager had run onto the pitch and stuck a st marys player leaving him cold!! we can all tell stories about things other clubs have done that have little to do with sportmanship and edit them to show whatever light we want. I know that the ccc wil be acting on the referees report and st marys will be severely punished and this is correct. But what will come out in the following weeks and months will be that some the serious allegations levelled at the club are untrue or at worst exaggerated beyond belief. in these days of mobile phone video dont be surprised to hear  of or see footage that will not reflect kindly on the linesman that day and some hannahstown players. Please reserve you judgement until the full facts become public which will not be until an appeal is made against whatever action the ccc take and a full enquiry into the whole affair is carried out and made public. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 04, 2011, 02:23:57 PM
Sorry about that last rant fellas, i got a bit carried away, under alot of p at mo!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leave er in on November 04, 2011, 02:32:20 PM
Rasharkin Gael i appreciate you may be under alot of pressure at the minute and not having been at the match im not going to comment on what happened, however as a Moneyglass supporter it does disappoint me that after all the accusations and that have been levelled at your club this week you chose to highlight a reference from a Moneyglass person rather than any of the other posts. Maybe im just being overly cynical or the old chip on my shoulder is kicking in again. I hope some common sense is used in the punishments dished out and not just a total ban on the club as it would be disappointed to see young juveniles(under 12, 14, 16 etc) losing out on football and hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 04, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
fair point LHI. didnt really mean to have a go at the mlass man but when everyone keeps calling you a scum bag and animal it becomes very hard to take after awhile.  Yep, the most probable outcome will be the closing of the pitch for year, maybe more. We are doing alot of good work with our kids and it would be a real shame for them to suffer because of this, but in reality i know the ccc wont have many other options. Out of curiousity have any of you fellas ever faced a situation where you have people come to your games, wear your colours and do nothing but embarrass your club. When they dont even pay their membership what can you do with them? When they are asked to stop abusing opposition or referee they just ignore it? what can a club do in this situation in the real world? you cant manhandle them, cant imagine anyone calling the psni to gaelic pitch because someone wont leave!   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on November 04, 2011, 02:55:09 PM
Yadda, yadda, yadda... The Glenravel manager had it coming to him... The linesman was asking for it... God help us. As I say, scratch the surface...

I'm not a Moneyglass (club) man by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
The Glenravel manager ran across the pitch and struck a Rasharkin Player.  Another Rasharkin player then punched the Glenravel Manager. This isnt the first incident of its kind, and wont be the last. The game is plagued with incidents like this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 04, 2011, 03:13:02 PM
This is my favourite bit.

Quote from: Alter Ego on November 03, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Match officilas just missed by 1 large boulder thrown

It conjures some superb images in the old mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 04, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 04, 2011, 03:13:02 PM
This is my favourite bit.

Quote from: Alter Ego on November 03, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Match officilas just missed by 1 large boulder thrown

It conjures some superb images in the old mind.

I always thought Cuchulain was a Dunloy man. Did he transfer to Rasharkin as a juvenile?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 03:20:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2011, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 04, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
fair point LHI. didnt really mean to have a go at the mlass man but when everyone keeps calling you a scum bag and animal it becomes very hard to take after awhile.  Yep, the most probable outcome will be the closing of the pitch for year, maybe more. We are doing alot of good work with our kids and it would be a real shame for them to suffer because of this, but in reality i know the ccc wont have many other options. Out of curiousity have any of you fellas ever faced a situation where you have people come to your games, wear your colours and do nothing but embarrass your club. When they dont even pay their membership what can you do with them? When they are asked to stop abusing opposition or referee they just ignore it? what can a club do in this situation in the real world? you cant manhandle them, cant imagine anyone calling the psni to gaelic pitch because someone wont leave!
Come off it. "These people just keep turning up, there is nothing we can do". That's balls. Your players and "a senior club official" were involved in this. Stop painting it as an unruly bunch who just keep turning up at your matches.

You will find though that the person who ran across the pitch and hit the referee would be classed as one of those unruly bunch.  The rest followed suit, no excuse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 04, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 04, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
fair point LHI. didnt really mean to have a go at the mlass man but when everyone keeps calling you a scum bag and animal it becomes very hard to take after awhile.  Yep, the most probable outcome will be the closing of the pitch for year, maybe more. We are doing alot of good work with our kids and it would be a real shame for them to suffer because of this, but in reality i know the ccc wont have many other options. Out of curiousity have any of you fellas ever faced a situation where you have people come to your games, wear your colours and do nothing but embarrass your club. When they dont even pay their membership what can you do with them? When they are asked to stop abusing opposition or referee they just ignore it? what can a club do in this situation in the real world? you cant manhandle them, cant imagine anyone calling the psni to gaelic pitch because someone wont leave!

Could you not get that "Senior Club Official" to have word with them?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 04, 2011, 03:55:22 PM
very good over the posts. :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on November 04, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
The Glenravel manager ran across the pitch and struck a Rasharkin Player.  Another Rasharkin player then punched the Glenravel Manager. This isnt the first incident of its kind, and wont be the last. The game is plagued with incidents like this.

You don't say? Oh, you mean generally?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 04:33:20 PM
Quote from: rogueryhill on November 04, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
The Glenravel manager ran across the pitch and struck a Rasharkin Player.  Another Rasharkin player then punched the Glenravel Manager. This isnt the first incident of its kind, and wont be the last. The game is plagued with incidents like this.

You don't say? Oh, you mean generally?

f**k up Pedantic Pat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on November 04, 2011, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 04:33:20 PM
Quote from: rogueryhill on November 04, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on November 04, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
The Glenravel manager ran across the pitch and struck a Rasharkin Player.  Another Rasharkin player then punched the Glenravel Manager. This isnt the first incident of its kind, and wont be the last. The game is plagued with incidents like this.

You don't say? Oh, you mean generally?

f**k up Pedantic Pat

  :o :o :o
<looks round nervously to make sure there is a clear run out past the clubrooms...>
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 04, 2011, 03:13:02 PM
This is my favourite bit.

Quote from: Alter Ego on November 03, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Match officilas just missed by 1 large boulder thrown

It conjures some superb images in the old mind.

Rasharkin prepare for league play-off

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 05, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 07:51:09 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 05, 2011, 10:21:30 PM
Photo's just released of Enough Said at Ballymena.   ;D

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whiskeysteve on November 06, 2011, 12:19:02 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Steven Segal on November 07, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
Official footage from Rasharkin U-21 match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmr_SGyNihY
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2011, 04:19:45 PM
Actual footage of the under 21 match, the women involved would make ya think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leave er in on November 07, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
I was talking to one of our senior players on sunday and he told me he met a few rasharkin men at the weekend who were singing moneyglass are down, moneyglass are down at him. Nice to see they have there priorities right and are still able to gloat after the week that was!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on November 08, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
Rasharkin punishments are out;

All teams over minor banned for 1 year.

One mentor, one member and one player recommended for expulsion from GAA.

One player and member suspended for 96 weeks.

One fan banned for a year.

Four players banned for 4, 8, 72 and 96 weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 08, 2011, 05:08:46 PM
Fair enough it would seem! I will wait until these bans have been implemented to reserve judgment.

Derry County Board have a great habit of handing down these bans and having 'zero tolerance on violence' only for decisions to be gone back on and suspensions halved or rescinded... too numerous to mention at this stage but I hope Antrim can stick to their guns!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 08, 2011, 05:13:36 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15644823

BBC quick off the mark! Nothing on Antrim website as yet. Must have missed it - there's a statement there now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on November 08, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Its a bit harsh banning the senior hurlers and footballers, they shouldnt be punished
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2011, 05:22:33 PM
Not to pick on derry as they are not alone but when you overturn your county players bans for pretty horrendous offenses then you haven't a leg to stand on with the other ones...

I'm glad the underage teams haven't suffered. The rest was, at the extreme end, of to be expected. I would expect not all bans will be enforced. If the ones who got lifetime bans deserve it then I hope they're enforced. (I ,like most people, don't know the full ins and outs but it's rare you hear of lifetime bans).

I thought the ground would have been closed before banning the seniors (either code). I'd expect that overturned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:43:06 PM
Lamh Dhearg Ray Matthews Eoin Elliot all got off scot free. The county clearly see's one way!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on November 08, 2011, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 06, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
it is also in the spirit of the game to not do what most teams do, in that if a player gets rightly sent off for a sending off offence that their club appeals it?!?! and they no doubt get off on a technocality! or that a team plays an illegal player and serve no punishment!

also if someone in a senior team books their wedding 1 or 2 years in advance do they know that it will affect another club staying in a certain division, away and feel your head pat! it could so easily affect their own club!

and if your not from moneyglass why worry, what goes round come round!
It certainly does.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on November 08, 2011, 06:06:20 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:43:06 PM
Lamh Dhearg Ray Matthews Eoin Elliot all got off scot free. The county clearly see's one way!
:D Wise up son.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 08, 2011, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:43:06 PM
Lamh Dhearg Ray Matthews Eoin Elliot all got off scot free. The county clearly see's one way!

what do you expect to happen to owen and ray? lifetime bans? two good referees than we couldnt afford to lose. hopefully both dont let this thuggary put them off the sport they both obviously love
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
Good Refs from what i seen they couldnt lead blind mice! I think they both should have some sort of punishment after all they did add fuel to the fire!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 08, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
Good Refs from what i seen they couldnt lead blind mice! I think they both should have some sort of punishment after all they did add fuel to the fire!

what punishment do they deserve?
fuel to the fire? how? being attacked? defending themselves? loosing their cool in a difficult situation?

your views are very one sided, hold your hands up and admit rasharkin were 100% in the wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on November 08, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
Good Refs from what i seen they couldnt lead blind mice! I think they both should have some sort of punishment after all they did add fuel to the fire!

what punishment do they deserve?
fuel to the fire? how? being attacked? defending themselves? loosing their cool in a difficult situation?

your views are very one sided, hold your hands up and admit rasharkin were 100% in the wrong

Rasharkin we're not the only sinners on the day and that is a fact if you look would ever step outside the box you live in and think about the actul truth you would know! But no you all jump on a wagon and post rubbish about what you believe! But what is it they say what goes round comes around. Rasharkin today someone else tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 08, 2011, 06:41:25 PM
maybe you need to step outside the box and realise that it is people with your views etc that has rasharkin in this trouble. majority of people in rasharkin club are good people, good sportsmen and decently behaved on and off the pitch. these people i feel sorry for. but it is up to the other percentage to either clear off or follow the example of other club members/players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lenny on November 08, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on November 08, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
Rasharkin punishments are out;

All teams over minor banned for 1 year.

One mentor, one member and one player recommended for expulsion from GAA.

One player and member suspended for 96 weeks.

One fan banned for a year.

Four players banned for 4, 8, 72 and 96 weeks.

Very severe to ban all players over minor fr one year. Many of these players could be lost to the GAA. Having said that a lot of work needs to be done on educating clubs on how to respect officials. This kind of thing is happening much too often nowadays.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 08, 2011, 07:21:11 PM
Does this mean Mglass stay up in div 1? or will div 1 be 9 teams next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 08, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3183


Following the investigation into the Antrim u21 Football Championship Game between St Marys, Rasharkin v Lamh Dhearg the following suspensions have imposed.

Players (6)
2 Players received 4 week Suspensions
1 player received 8 week Suspension.
1 player received 72 week Suspension.
1 player received 96 week Suspension.
1 player recommended for Expulsion from the Association.

Team Mentor (1)
1 member recommended for Expulsion from the Association.

Club Members (3)
I suspension of 96 weeks imposed
2 members recommended for Expulsion from the Association.

Partisans (1)
1 Person debarred from entering GAA property for 96 weeks.

Club Sanction
The St Marys Rasharkin club, will be excluded from all competitions, above but not including Minor, in all codes under the control of CLG for a period of 1 year

County Chairman Jim Murray said that the sanctions reflect the seriousness with which the county board view the original incident.

"Let the message be very clearly understood by everyone involved in the GAA in Antrim. We will simply not tolerate the kind of abuse which took place following this match. If we ask members to referee games then they are entitled to respect and to be allowed to get on with that job, free from the threat of physical or verbal abuse.

"The County has acted swiftly and with seriously with this issue. We will not stand for attacks on officials. It has no part of our game in Antrim."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on November 08, 2011, 07:29:02 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 08, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on November 08, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
Rasharkin punishments are out;

All teams over minor banned for 1 year.

One mentor, one member and one player recommended for expulsion from GAA.

One player and member suspended for 96 weeks.

One fan banned for a year.

Four players banned for 4, 8, 72 and 96 weeks.

Very severe to ban all players over minor fr one year. Many of these players could be lost to the GAA. Having said that a lot of work needs to be done on educating clubs on how to respect officials. This kind of thing is happening much too often nowadays.

Thats rich for someone from Magherafelt lenny. Had you not two players who got straight red cards in an u21 game but you succeeeded in getting the referee to put them in as two yellows. The hypocrisy of you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 08, 2011, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 08, 2011, 07:29:02 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 08, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on November 08, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
Rasharkin punishments are out;

All teams over minor banned for 1 year.

One mentor, one member and one player recommended for expulsion from GAA.

One player and member suspended for 96 weeks.

One fan banned for a year.

Four players banned for 4, 8, 72 and 96 weeks.

Very severe to ban all players over minor fr one year. Many of these players could be lost to the GAA. Having said that a lot of work needs to be done on educating clubs on how to respect officials. This kind of thing is happening much too often nowadays.

Thats rich for someone from Magherafelt lenny. Had you not two players who got straight red cards in an u21 game but you succeeeded in getting the referee to put them in as two yellows. The hypocrisy of you.

Lol yeah that's the same!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 08, 2011, 08:13:25 PM
Think the county board got the punishment spot on. They were tough, but it was deserved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 08, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
All mayhem breaking loose in Rasharkin tonight

(http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cyclopsf1.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on November 08, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
hahahahahahaha rasharkin once sc.m always sc.m
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
Hey boy very serious issue here, not a.f**k about.  Feel sorry for the real gaa people of rasharkin.  But a big message has been sent out by county.  Clubs must abide by law or else face consequences.  I just hope raybo is back whistle blowing next year.  Will this be a major boost for the sharks hurling fraternity.  To lift spirits come and support the saints Sunday.  Con mageean even welcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on November 08, 2011, 09:35:59 PM
Hey boy very serious issue here, not a.f**k about.  Feel sorry for the real gaa people of rasharkin.  But a big message has been sent out by county.  Clubs must abide by law or else face consequences.  I just hope raybo is back whistle blowing next year.  Will this be a major boost for the sharks hurling fraternity.  To lift spirits come and support the saints Sunday.  Con mageean even welcomeAre


Are Rasharkin not banned for the Hurling too, if they are i think its a bit harsh, why are you punishing the Senior members of the club!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 08, 2011, 10:11:49 PM
Feel sorry for Rasharkin hurlers and they might be able to get a reduction on appeal even if it meant having to play all matches away but they will have to take their medicine as a club and look to address their problems, as  can we all to a greater or lessor extent. there are rockets in every club that are a disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lenny on November 08, 2011, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 08, 2011, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 08, 2011, 07:29:02 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 08, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on November 08, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
Rasharkin punishments are out;

All teams over minor banned for 1 year.

One mentor, one member and one player recommended for expulsion from GAA.

One player and member suspended for 96 weeks.

One fan banned for a year.

Four players banned for 4, 8, 72 and 96 weeks.

Very severe to ban all players over minor fr one year. Many of these players could be lost to the GAA. Having said that a lot of work needs to be done on educating clubs on how to respect officials. This kind of thing is happening much too often nowadays.

Thats rich for someone from Magherafelt lenny. Had you not two players who got straight red cards in an u21 game but you succeeeded in getting the referee to put them in as two yellows. The hypocrisy of you.

Lol yeah that's the same!

I was speaking as an individual and not as a club spokesman. I agree we have dickheads in our club just as Bellaghy and Screen have also. The point I was making though is that we have to try and educate people within clubs to try and create more of a respect culture like exists in rugby. I see too many coaches involved at underage who see every game they play as like an All Ireland final and they cant accept losing. When a ref makes a mistake as they inevitably do usually a few times they become a target.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurler2011 on November 08, 2011, 10:54:05 PM
i dont understand why the hurling team is suffering too, i just hope the appeal will get us something, playing matches away will be difficult but its better than no hurling at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 08, 2011, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 08, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
All mayhem breaking loose in Rasharkin tonight

(http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cyclopsf1.jpg)

What's Ricey doing in Rasharkin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:12:40 PM
Here here hurler, I didn't realise a Mr Elliot was assaulted to.  Every cloud ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 08, 2011, 11:17:51 PM
i fancy ballymena to do the business on sunday.
on the rasharkin issue again. so bad 3 senior teams loosing out on a years playing action and obviously dropping leagues if thats the case. i hope the good core of gaels dont loose intrest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 08, 2011, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:12:40 PM
Here here hurler, I didn't realise a Mr Elliot was assaulted to.  Every cloud ???

With that post you only add to the suspicion that you are not an All Saints member.  Disgraceful post if you really are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 08, 2011, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: hurler2011 on November 08, 2011, 10:54:05 PM
I don't understand why the hurling team is suffering too, i just hope the appeal will get us something, playing matches away will be difficult but its better than no hurling at all

The club (rather than the code) has been punished.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 08, 2011, 11:28:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 08, 2011, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:12:40 PM
Here here hurler, I didn't realise a Mr Elliot was assaulted to.  Every cloud ???

With that post you only add to the suspicion that you are not an All Saints member.  Disgraceful post if you really are.

Disgraceful regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
89 thats true, don't want people walking away, I am big into suspension but I think this suspension to a degree is retrievable if the sharks have co operated well.  But senior teams might have to soak it up.  Those within rasharkin community have to highlight their trouble makers.  Has mla d mckay spoke about issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:33:07 PM
A little playful jibe to a friend and club mate.  Should have kept it in house.  But you're right to say disgraceful point to previous poster.  Extremely insensitive, but those people are put there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurler2011 on November 08, 2011, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
89 thats true, don't want people walking away, I am big into suspension but I think this suspension to a degree is retrievable if the sharks have co operated well.  But senior teams might have to soak it up.  Those within rasharkin community have to highlight their trouble makers.  Has mla d mckay spoke about issue.

the big problem we have is that our team is very young bar one or two, we need competitive hurling to keep our touch going, the hurling in rasharkin has come along way in the last few years, this will set us back big time, it will be hard to keep our team going knowing that we have nothing competitive to play for
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2011, 12:12:53 AM
hurler2011, I think sympathy for the plight of your hurlers will be hard to find. Your club members who carried out their acts of violence are where your frustrations should be pointed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2011, 08:46:33 AM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:12:40 PM
Here here hurler, I didn't realise a Mr Elliot was assaulted to.  Every cloud ???

Terrible post regardless of whether it should have been kept in house or not, plus there is a serious tinge of red on those all saints colours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 09, 2011, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:43:06 PM
Lamh Dhearg Ray Matthews Eoin Elliot all got off scot free. The county clearly see's one way!

Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
Good Refs from what i seen they couldnt lead blind mice! I think they both should have some sort of punishment after all they did add fuel to the fire!

Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
Rasharkin we're not the only sinners on the day and that is a fact if you look would ever step outside the box you live in and think about the actul truth you would know! But no you all jump on a wagon and post rubbish about what you believe! But what is it they say what goes round comes around. Rasharkin today someone else tomorrow.

You are an embarassment to your club. And given the week that's in it, that is some achievement  :o

Take a look at yourself. And I hope the club do too so that whenever you spout sh*te like that round the club, the senior footballers and hurlers who want to play, will tell you where to go. It is a small step from your victim/whataboutery attitude to "the ref was asking for it". And look where that has got the club.

It is a tough punishment, but it needed to be.  6 players suspended, a team mentor, and 3 club members (including a senior club official). That's not an outside rabble that the club "can do nothing about". That's an inside rabble that club should have been able to do something about  >:(

ENOUGH!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 09, 2011, 10:12:20 AM
Quote from: The Worker on November 08, 2011, 07:21:11 PM
Does this mean Mglass stay up in div 1? or will div 1 be 9 teams next year?

9 team Div 1 with 1 team to be relegated would be the logical way to go. Same as when a club pulls out / gets chucked out mid-season. Only Rasharkin jumped the (shot)gun early  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 09, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Don't think anyone from my club can really complain about the punishments handed down from the ccc. Severe sentences for the individuals concerned but rightly so for disgraceful actions. I know a lot of the lads on the senior football and hurling teams are smarting over their bans, especially as the vast majority of them were not present at ballymena, but the county had to take drastic action and send out a message to all clubs in our county that there is a collective responsibility inherent in the gaa and clubs have to take responsibility for not just the behaviour of players on the field but of supporters to. Next season will be tough for st Mary's, some guys already talking about heading to Australia as work is light here and the football/hurling was the only thing keeping them at home. But on a brighter side we can now make sure nothing like this can happen again within our club and pay much more attention to raising the standard of our discipline, which has been extremely poor for a number of seasons now, and make sure our juvenile players have more respect for match officials, club officials and themselves as we try to rebuild the reputation of our club which is now in tatters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 09, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Don't think anyone from my club can really complain about the punishments handed down from the ccc. Severe sentences for the individuals concerned but rightly so for disgraceful actions. I know a lot of the lads on the senior football and hurling teams are smarting over their bans, especially as the vast majority of them were not present at ballymena, but the county had to take drastic action and send out a message to all clubs in our county that there is a collective responsibility inherent in the gaa and clubs have to take responsibility for not just the behaviour of players on the field but of supporters to. Next season will be tough for st Mary's, some guys already talking about heading to Australia as work is light here and the football/hurling was the only thing keeping them at home. But on a brighter side we can now make sure nothing like this can happen again within our club and pay much more attention to raising the standard of our discipline, which has been extremely poor for a number of seasons now, and make sure our juvenile players have more respect for match officials, club officials and themselves as we try to rebuild the reputation of our club which is now in tatters.

Excellent post

If it can make the club stronger and more cohesive in the future maybe the short term pain can be swallowed for long term gain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on November 09, 2011, 11:34:08 AM
Can see most of Rasharkin seniors will head to oz, because their will be no reason for them to stay

or some of them will start to play a diiferent sport, because they wont want to sit in for the next year and a bit doing nothin!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 09, 2011, 11:35:36 AM
I think all saints could have a good run in the intermediate if they play as they did in the second half at casement the other week. Really good midfield with mcveigh and Logan, and if they can get paddy plenty of ball his distribution is fantastic. Young pizza up front has really come on this year but they can blow hot and cold, but definately should win if they play to their potential.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 09, 2011, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 09, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Don't think anyone from my club can really complain about the punishments handed down from the ccc. Severe sentences for the individuals concerned but rightly so for disgraceful actions. I know a lot of the lads on the senior football and hurling teams are smarting over their bans, especially as the vast majority of them were not present at ballymena, but the county had to take drastic action and send out a message to all clubs in our county that there is a collective responsibility inherent in the gaa and clubs have to take responsibility for not just the behaviour of players on the field but of supporters to. Next season will be tough for st Mary's, some guys already talking about heading to Australia as work is light here and the football/hurling was the only thing keeping them at home. But on a brighter side we can now make sure nothing like this can happen again within our club and pay much more attention to raising the standard of our discipline, which has been extremely poor for a number of seasons now, and make sure our juvenile players have more respect for match officials, club officials and themselves as we try to rebuild the reputation of our club which is now in tatters.

Excellent post

If it can make the club stronger and more cohesive in the future maybe the short term pain can be swallowed for long term gain.

+1

RG you seem to be a voice of reason - club AGM must be coming up soon - get yourself involved in Committee (if not already).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on November 09, 2011, 11:47:50 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on Today at 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on Today at 11:15:02 AM
Don't think anyone from my club can really complain about the punishments handed down from the ccc. Severe sentences for the individuals concerned but rightly so for disgraceful actions. I know a lot of the lads on the senior football and hurling teams are smarting over their bans, especially as the vast majority of them were not present at ballymena, but the county had to take drastic action and send out a message to all clubs in our county that there is a collective responsibility inherent in the gaa and clubs have to take responsibility for not just the behaviour of players on the field but of supporters to. Next season will be tough for st Mary's, some guys already talking about heading to Australia as work is light here and the football/hurling was the only thing keeping them at home. But on a brighter side we can now make sure nothing like this can happen again within our club and pay much more attention to raising the standard of our discipline, which has been extremely poor for a number of seasons now, and make sure our juvenile players have more respect for match officials, club officials and themselves as we try to rebuild the reputation of our club which is now in tatters.


Excellent post

If it can make the club stronger and more cohesive in the future maybe the short term pain can be swallowed for long term gain.


+1

RG you seem to be a voice of reason - club AGM must be coming up soon - get yourself involved in Committee (if not already).

 

>>>>> I  also agree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 09, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 09, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Don't think anyone from my club can really complain about the punishments handed down from the ccc. Severe sentences for the individuals concerned but rightly so for disgraceful actions. I know a lot of the lads on the senior football and hurling teams are smarting over their bans, especially as the vast majority of them were not present at ballymena, but the county had to take drastic action and send out a message to all clubs in our county that there is a collective responsibility inherent in the gaa and clubs have to take responsibility for not just the behaviour of players on the field but of supporters to. Next season will be tough for st Mary's, some guys already talking about heading to Australia as work is light here and the football/hurling was the only thing keeping them at home. But on a brighter side we can now make sure nothing like this can happen again within our club and pay much more attention to raising the standard of our discipline, which has been extremely poor for a number of seasons now, and make sure our juvenile players have more respect for match officials, club officials and themselves as we try to rebuild the reputation of our club which is now in tatters.

Fair play RG. A sad day for all the (many) genuine gaels in St Mary's, but if this is the prevailing attitude within the club when the dust has settled then the club will be better for it in the long run. It is a warning shot for all clubs too. There needs to be a pro-active vigilence about ill-discipline and attitudes from within the clubs themselves. Every member can and should play their part - that's the collective responsibility part. If the smaller stuff is challenged robustly from within then the bigger stuff, when it happens, is less likely to get out of control. St Mary's, I am sorry to say, has often not been a pleasant place to visit in recent years.

Never thought I'd be quoting Edmund Burke on the gaaboard, but...

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogueryhill on November 09, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
Just went to the Rasharkin website there to check if there was any news and I got an "Invalid Argument" error!

I am not joking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pdiddy on November 09, 2011, 01:16:47 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 09, 2011, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 09, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Don't think anyone from my club can really complain about the punishments handed down from the ccc. Severe sentences for the individuals concerned but rightly so for disgraceful actions. I know a lot of the lads on the senior football and hurling teams are smarting over their bans, especially as the vast majority of them were not present at ballymena, but the county had to take drastic action and send out a message to all clubs in our county that there is a collective responsibility inherent in the gaa and clubs have to take responsibility for not just the behaviour of players on the field but of supporters to. Next season will be tough for st Mary's, some guys already talking about heading to Australia as work is light here and the football/hurling was the only thing keeping them at home. But on a brighter side we can now make sure nothing like this can happen again within our club and pay much more attention to raising the standard of our discipline, which has been extremely poor for a number of seasons now, and make sure our juvenile players have more respect for match officials, club officials and themselves as we try to rebuild the reputation of our club which is now in tatters.

Excellent post

If it can make the club stronger and more cohesive in the future maybe the short term pain can be swallowed for long term gain.

+1

RG you seem to be a voice of reason - club AGM must be coming up soon - get yourself involved in Committee (if not already).

+1.  Very magnanimous of you RG.  The club need more men (or women) like you more than ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 09, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
Look out for hairy-legged deep-voiced camogs playing for Rasharkin next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2011, 01:28:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 09, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
Look out for hairy-legged deep-voiced camogs playing for Rasharkin next year.

they have a few of them most years !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on November 09, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:16:10 PM
Good Refs from what i seen they couldnt lead blind mice! I think they both should have some sort of punishment after all they did add fuel to the fire!
Are you real, nahh you couldn't be coming out with rubbish like that definitely a WUM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gelvis on November 09, 2011, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: hurler2011 on November 08, 2011, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
89 thats true, don't want people walking away, I am big into suspension but I think this suspension to a degree is retrievable if the sharks have co operated well.  But senior teams might have to soak it up.  Those within rasharkin community have to highlight their trouble makers.  Has mla d mckay spoke about issue.

the big problem we have is that our team is very young bar one or two, we need competitive hurling to keep our touch going, the hurling in rasharkin has come along way in the last few years, this will set us back big time, it will be hard to keep our team going knowing that we have nothing competitive to play for

I have only heard the name of one player who was suspended.  Not sure if he was the 72/96 weeks but I only know him from hurling.  One club, one punishment fits all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 09, 2011, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on November 09, 2011, 10:12:20 AM
Quote from: The Worker on November 08, 2011, 07:21:11 PM
Does this mean Mglass stay up in div 1? or will div 1 be 9 teams next year?

9 team Div 1 with 1 team to be relegated would be the logical way to go. Same as when a club pulls out / gets chucked out mid-season. Only Rasharkin jumped the (shot)gun early  :o

though as the incident happened in the 2011 season, surely then rasharkin should effectively take moneyglass's relegation spot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurler2011 on November 09, 2011, 09:11:11 PM
totally agree with rg, our discipline has not been good in recent years, so its time to get it drilled into our young ones about respect for match officials and other teams and there mentors. this will also have to include parents watching there own behaviour at matches as well. good luck to all saints and creggan in ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on November 09, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
To all of that going on and on not all of these "Bans" aren't in place. They are recommendations!
Keep an eye on the news the truth will be out soon!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 09, 2011, 09:54:07 PM
hurler i hope for your sake the playing ban is lifted and you as a club get rid of the wasters. i know a lot of your senior players on and off the field and hope you field next year.

as for your clubmate, you are still playing this old record that yous are innocent. take the bans as a good thing. out with the old....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2011, 10:42:18 PM
The board is with you RG - 100%. You represent many of the good and proper Gaels of the Rasharkin.

Once upon a time a certain club had the worst disciplinary record in Derry. They were put out of the league for at least a year. Maybe it was two.
They responded by putting all their resources into juvenile develoment, and used their time wisely to rebuild and re-evaluate. The result was several all -Ireland feile A titles, and a team that won Ulster and all ireland senior club, with those exact same juveniles.

The target for those emerging juvenile teams was not only to win silverware - but to get no red cards in the process! Both were achieved, and I recall Adrian Mc Guckin explaining to Antrim gaels at a development seminar, that the bigger pride for his club was in the latter. It was all about discipline and respect.

Every cloud has a silver lining, and Rasharkin - a proud parish - will bounce back stronger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leave er in on November 10, 2011, 09:23:07 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 09, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
To all of that going on and on not all of these "Bans" aren't in place. They are recommendations!
Keep an eye on the news the truth will be out soon!

Yes but they are recommendations for expulsion from the GAA, even if these are overturned the culprits will be looking at definite 96 week bans, what planet are you on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 10, 2011, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Enough on November 09, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
To all of that going on and on not all of these "Bans" aren't in place. They are recommendations!
Keep an eye on the news the truth will be out soon!

Enough would you ever stop bleating like a stuck lamb? Yes, these are "proposed sanctions"  ::). Do you follow GAA much? or are you just one of that rabble that's been talked about that just came along to St Mary's from time to time to cause trouble?

Due process will run its course and I have no doubt most of these proposed sanctions will be challenged at CHC. After that comes the appeals. I have no problem with appeals where new evidence can be brought, or where a significant error can be demonstrated, etc. but I hope Rasharkin don't just appeal for the sake of it or look to get off on technicalities.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2011, 10:39:04 PM
Creggan won the u21 tonight - 1-9 - 0-9.

Great win for them.

Hopefully they can start making the senior more competitive soon with their good runs in the underage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2011, 10:40:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 10, 2011, 10:39:04 PM
Creggan won the u21 tonight - 1-9 - 0-9.

Great win for them.

Hopefully they can start making the senior more competitive soon with their good runs in the underage.

Thought this success would have came a lot sooner in fairness, they have been decent at under age for a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2011, 10:44:49 PM
Well I *think* they won the u21 a couple of ears ago and were beat by cargin in the final the other year.

Be interesting to see how/if that success transfers to senior.

Still a few years left in st galls I would think though the dominance can't last forever. Creggan / Lamh Dhearg would seem the two most likely candidates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 11, 2011, 01:13:26 AM
Creggan have fantastic underage teams at present. Some really gifted young fellas. Saw a lad in an u12 game come off the bench, touch the ball 5 times, scored 2 points with his right foot, 2 with his left and fisted one over the bar! Not a bad sub to have, he was still u10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:59 AM
So have St Mary's appealed this yet?  I'm assuming they would only have a week to appeal.

What will your club appeal and what will it not appeal Rasharkin Gael?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 12, 2011, 12:05:50 PM
making a decision over the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 12, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
Any appeal should have been lodged long before now - 3 days is the time limit to appeal - and i'm sure it has been submitted in good time!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 12, 2011, 05:07:51 PM
3 days from receipt of written notification!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:21:13 PM
I am sure u are all behind The saints in there continued bid for ulster success tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
I didn't know Loughgiel were playing football tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:57:19 PM
Oh dear ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 17, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
Just out of interest, would there be anything stopping any Rasharkin players from transferring over to say Dunloy, Portglenone or Ahoghill (I mention these clubs only because they are relatively close by) for a year and then transferring back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 17, 2011, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on November 17, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
Just out of interest, would there be anything stopping any Rasharkin players from transferring over to say Dunloy, Portglenone or Ahoghill (I mention these clubs only because they are relatively close by) for a year and then transferring back?

Eh . .  the County Board, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 17, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 17, 2011, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on November 17, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
Just out of interest, would there be anything stopping any Rasharkin players from transferring over to say Dunloy, Portglenone or Ahoghill (I mention these clubs only because they are relatively close by) for a year and then transferring back?

Eh . .  the County Board, no?

I suppose they wouldn't let it go through, but what would their reasoning be for blocking the transfer. I'm probably talking rubbish, sometimes my brain just doesn't work properly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 17, 2011, 03:51:07 PM
Not sure about that one Magic. I know some of our players on county panels are seeking clarification on their status at mo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 03:54:18 PM
Players in suspended club are not allowed to transfer, there is effectively a transfer embargo placed on the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 17, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
do you Nag if they can still represent county? cant see why they couldnt but lack of competitive games could count against them, though they way some county managers think this maybe an advantage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 04:03:35 PM
Dont quote me but my understanding would be that they would be banned from all competitions therefore no senior player in Rasharkin could play any competition including inter county.

Just looking at it logically not from any factual basis. (The transfer embargo is definite though)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 17, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
not sure about this Nag. we have an over 35 team, play in those recreational footie tournaments etc, but because they are organised by ulster council and not under the control of the antrim ccc we were under the impression that they could still play, but dont know this for certain. The ban said from all games under the control of antrim ccc, so not sure if this effects county players, over 35 in ulster council competition or even the ulster league. but all just speculation, more questions than answers.l
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 04:20:05 PM
I know what you mean RG, but I would imagine as soon as the loopholes are identified by CCC they will be closed by Ulster Council.

I would imagine that when they suspended all teams above minor that included your Over 35's regardless of what competition that they play in.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 17, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
I would have thought they couldn't, it would kind of make the ban seem like a bit of a joke. I still feel for the rest of the banned players who are banned who have to do without football or hurling for a year, I know it would have nearly killed me.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 23, 2011, 10:48:58 AM
does anyone know the reasoning behind Baker changing his back room staff ? did the lads leave or were they pushed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 23, 2011, 11:11:42 AM
Didn't hear this RG, what are the details??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 23, 2011, 11:57:26 AM
not new news. p mcneill and n conway are gone, replaced by andy ward, gearoid adams and paul mcflynn. just wondered if the the former two left or did baker just want a shake up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 23, 2011, 02:04:29 PM
Regarding the Rasharkin lads.

Any of the lads who were individualy suspended, will serve there suspensions.

The rest of the suspensions are not individual, but are team / club suspensions.

That means R'kin players can play for 3rd level education teams, county teams, and even get 60 day sanctions for overseas. But they cannot repersent Rasharkin

The county can't block inter club / inter county transfer either, if there is a just reason for the transfer, or they will be open up to legal proceedings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 24, 2011, 11:30:50 AM
Hope that transfers don't enter into the equation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 24, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 23, 2011, 02:04:29 PM


The county can't block inter club / inter county transfer either, if there is a just reason for the transfer, or they will be open up to legal proceedings.

Not sure what you mean by "just reason" - presumably the County can block (or allow) any transfer it wants so long as it is done within the Rules of:

i.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 24, 2011, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 24, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 23, 2011, 02:04:29 PM


The county can't block inter club / inter county transfer either, if there is a just reason for the transfer, or they will be open up to legal proceedings.

Not sure what you mean by "just reason" - presumably the County can block (or allow) any transfer it wants so long as it is done within the Rules of:

i.)

Sorry, hit a button by mistake there!

Meant to say - surely the County can block (or allow) any transfer it wants, so long as it is done within the Rules of:

i.) the Associaton generally; and

ii.) the County specifically?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 25, 2011, 06:02:06 AM
If somebody moves home to  a new location, then they are free to transfer due to the parish rule. Therefore, a Rasharkin lad could transfer to a another club, and the county would be in trouble if it blocked it. If the Rasharkin sec and the new club sec signed the transfer forms then the lads would be free to transfer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Steven Segal on November 25, 2011, 08:01:22 AM
If any true Rasharkin gales jump through all these hoops to engineer a transfer away from their club then they are not true Rasharkin gales at all and the club are better off without them in the long run!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 25, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: Steven Segal on November 25, 2011, 08:01:22 AM
If any true Rasharkin gales jump through all these hoops to engineer a transfer away from their club then they are not true Rasharkin gales at all and the club are better off without them in the long run!

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 26, 2011, 10:44:14 AM
U21 football trials on today. I saw last years team play a few times, very good defensively and at midfield but terrible up front. Don't know if there are any good forwards coming up from the minors, but there wasn't much coming through from u21 to improve our senior forwards.Cant really understand why we don't produce more natural forwards in Antrim who can compete at county level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on November 28, 2011, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 26, 2011, 10:44:14 AM
U21 football trials on today. I saw last years team play a few times, very good defensively and at midfield but terrible up front. Don't know if there are any good forwards coming up from the minors, but there wasn't much coming through from u21 to improve our senior forwards.Cant really understand why we don't produce more natural forwards in Antrim who can compete at county level?

There's a few decent forwards out there and some talented footballers. The 2 teams in the final, Lamh Dhearg and Creggan had some very, very good players, forwards and defenders. Ryan Murray from Lamh Dhearg looks very good and should be one to look out for. I think defensively we will be pretty strong next year as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
We can't seem to produce good forwards football or hurling!

Murray does look a good one though. Our minors were competitive against Tyrone a few years ago who went on to win the AI so should be a half decent team should it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 28, 2011, 03:53:04 PM
Young Murray was the stand out player in the hannahstown outfit, didnt have a lot of support though. Great win for Rossa in the u16, i think thats the first Antrim winners of the Paul McGirr trophy. That should be a very good minor team for Rossa over the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 02, 2011, 10:49:08 AM
Was reading mickey harte's column today in the Irish Snooze. Interesting reading, GAA thinking of trying the sin bin again, player gives away three fouls and is then sin binned! What a nightmare for the referee!He would have to note every single foul committed alongside what player committed it and then sin bin the player on three fouls and keep a eye on the time so as to allow the player back on again. Completely crazy idea. Refs have enough probs keeping up with play as it is let alone turning them into stat men. If the Gaa were to go down the sin bin route the only way i see it working for the club game is when a player receives a yellow he is sin binned until the end on that half and can then return. So if you were yellow carded in the 1st min you would be off until the 2nd half or if you were carded in the 25th min you still come on at the start of the 2nd period. Alot more practical for the referee to administer. Draw back is of course if a guy gets carded in the 29th min he only misses one minute of game time. Still , seems a more realistic system for club matches.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on December 02, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
I don't think sin binning at for the remainder of a half is a good idea, like you said, the time difference spent in the sin bin could be hugely unfair. If someone got their first yellow at the throw in of the second half then it is basically a red. Maybe if a yellow card meant a ten minute sin bin or something, a possible half an hour is way too long. Ten minutes would be ok, and if a player got sin binned with 5 mins left in the 1st half then they would miss the rest of the half and the first 5 mins of the second half. Maybe one of the linesmen could time this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 02, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 26, 2011, 10:44:14 AM
U21 football trials on today. I saw last years team play a few times, very good defensively and at midfield but terrible up front. Don't know if there are any good forwards coming up from the minors, but there wasn't much coming through from u21 to improve our senior forwards.Cant really understand why we don't produce more natural forwards in Antrim who can compete at county level?

Good point. Alot of small forwards knocking about who wouldnt have the strength for inter county.

Also not enough skilful forwards --if you look at the gooch, canavan etc they throw a dummy then kick it over

You rarely see dummys in Antrim--alot of that sort of play is not encouraged. Forwards seem to get a ball and run with the aim of kicking it with their good foot--theres no Jamie Clarke thinking of the eye of a needle pass --if i was a coach be preaching that forwards have to have flair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 02, 2011, 03:16:19 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on December 02, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
I don't think sin binning at for the remainder of a half is a good idea, like you said, the time difference spent in the sin bin could be hugely unfair. If someone got their first yellow at the throw in of the second half then it is basically a red. Maybe if a yellow card meant a ten minute sin bin or something, a possible half an hour is way too long. Ten minutes would be ok, and if a player got sin binned with 5 mins left in the 1st half then they would miss the rest of the half and the first 5 mins of the second half. Maybe one of the linesmen could time this.

Thats fine for intercounty games, but at club level you are usually struggling for guys to do the line and it would not be right to put them under pressure of deciding when a player came back onto the pitch, could cause alot of problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on December 02, 2011, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 02, 2011, 03:16:19 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on December 02, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
I don't think sin binning at for the remainder of a half is a good idea, like you said, the time difference spent in the sin bin could be hugely unfair. If someone got their first yellow at the throw in of the second half then it is basically a red. Maybe if a yellow card meant a ten minute sin bin or something, a possible half an hour is way too long. Ten minutes would be ok, and if a player got sin binned with 5 mins left in the 1st half then they would miss the rest of the half and the first 5 mins of the second half. Maybe one of the linesmen could time this.

Thats fine for intercounty games, but at club level you are usually struggling for guys to do the line and it would not be right to put them under pressure of deciding when a player came back onto the pitch, could cause alot of problems.

That's true, but I still think removing a player for the remainder of a half could be too harsh a punishment if the yellow occurs early or it could be to lenient if the yellow happens late in the half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on December 03, 2011, 12:59:04 AM
QuoteThat's true, but I still think removing a player for the remainder of a half could be too harsh a punishment if the yellow occurs early or it could be to lenient if the yellow happens late in the half

Or we could stop making these crucial decisions for referees if we taught or players to play within the rules of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 05, 2011, 10:05:19 AM

That's true, but I still think removing a player for the remainder of a half could be too harsh a punishment if the yellow occurs early or it could be to lenient if the yellow happens late in the half.
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Don't know the right or wrong solution magic. The way the fellas in croker have been messing with the rules in the last few years you really dont know if you are coming or going. They definately have to have a look at the likes of keeper coming up to take frees. The length of time it took cluxton to take that last free in the all ireland final would never have been allowed for an outfield player. The square ball rule is extremely difficult to enforce properly as has been shown in some high profile games in the last number of seasons let alone the number of problems with it at club level. I would suggest if they were going to keep the square ball at all, they make the small p'gram off limits to all opposition players all of the time to make it easier for the ref to police. Not an ideal solution, but maybe better than what we have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: upthem on December 08, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 08, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
How times have changed! We used to box each other outside the Cresent years ago, and for free!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on December 13, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
Why to f**k is the facebook page called 'fight knight'??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 13, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
Why to f**k is the facebook page called 'fight knight'??

I'm assuming that it's just about indicative of the standard of 3rd level education nowadays. Gerry Armstrong was on the news tonight, at Corpus Christi, with a poster on the wall behind him that clearly mentioned "career's", so obviously it comes initially from poor secondary education!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 13, 2011, 09:07:37 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 13, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
Why to f**k is the facebook page called 'fight knight'??

I'm assuming that it's just about indicative of the standard of 3rd level education nowadays. Gerry Armstrong was on the news tonight, at Corpus Christi, with a poster on the wall behind him that clearly mentioned "career's", so obviously it comes initially from poor secondary education!

I know, imagine teaching kids nowadays that there are actually careers to be had in this economy! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 14, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
Well - if you can get a few 'A' levels & can kick a football, you can certainly make a "career" for yourself at the Poly! Time enough to think about a job when you have 10-12 Sigerson campaigns under your belt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 15, 2011, 11:37:57 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 14, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
Well - if you can get a few 'A' levels & can kick a football, you can certainly make a "career" for yourself at the Poly! Time enough to think about a job when you have 10-12 Sigerson campaigns under your belt.

Oh i say!! Chip on the shoulder me thinks. We had many fine courses at "The Poly", BA Hons in beating QUB regularly, Bsc in not wearing the British crown on our jerseys, HND in not talking rocking horses. ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on December 19, 2011, 04:49:29 PM
There may be a twist to the rasharkin suspension.  Thought it would happen and think its the correct outcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 04:50:47 PM
Sharkin back in leagues and championships but have to play games away from home following Ulster Council appeal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
All individual suspensions as they were?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 07:24:53 PM
Yep, club were not appealing any individual bans, haven't heard if any of those fellas have lodged an appeal to uc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2011, 07:47:42 PM
I suppose that is fairly reasonable. It did seem extremely harsh penalising everyone for the actions of those boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on December 19, 2011, 07:51:03 PM
f**king joke if you ask me when the club wont defend people that where wrongly banned just so they can have their wee possy running round with their heads up their hole for another year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 19, 2011, 07:47:42 PM
I suppose that is fairly reasonable. It did seem extremely harsh penalising everyone for the actions of those boys.

Best outcome the club could have hoped for, tough enough playing away from home for a season  but better than no games at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Enough on December 19, 2011, 07:51:03 PM
f**king joke if you ask me when the club wont defend people that where wrongly banned just so they can have their wee possy running round with their heads up their hole for another year

Club Agm was last week, why did you not stand up and voice your opinions there or run for one of the jobs on the committee ( wee possy) , people weren't exactly queuing up for them under the circumstances?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on December 20, 2011, 09:32:12 AM
Absolutely shocking. What message is the UC sending out with this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 09:42:39 AM
Alter ego, best outcome for the club, for all those players who weren't even at slemish park. The events at ballymena are now part of a psni investigation so the consequences for those involved look severe. The fellas who carried out the violence have been identified and banned. What was the point in punishing over forty players who were not involved especially when the club cooperated fully with the investigation? You said yourself in an earlier post that the only way to deal with incidents like this is through the courts and that is exactly what is happening. As for your rant about club officials not trying to help Rm that is not correct. I was present and helped, along with a alot of the club committee. This was a shameful incident but it was wrong to punish the club as a whole so severely for the actions of half a dozen guys who were clearly identified and dealt with.       
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on December 20, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
He makes a good point though, I can't imagine many ref's will be overly keen on Refereeing a rasharkin game.

The initial punishment was harsh on those not involved but this punishment is more or less the same as other clubs have got for just slabbering at a ref.

What about your u21 team for next year, are they allowed to play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: Magicsponge on December 20, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
He makes a good point though, I can't imagine many ref's will be overly keen on Refereeing a rasharkin game.

The initial punishment was harsh on those not involved but this punishment is more or less the same as other clubs have got for just slabbering at a ref.

What about your u21 team for next year, are they allowed to play?

No u21 football next year, that ban still holds. Fine imposed on club as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on December 20, 2011, 02:18:14 PM
Just saw this on hoganstand......

James Loughrey believes Antrim's footballers can reach the dizzy heights of 2009 again.

The Saffrons contested an Ulster final two years ago and also put it up to Kerry in the Qualifiers and tenacious wing back Loughrey, who missed most of this year due to exam commitments, says Liam Bradley's charges can revisit those glory days.

The St Brigid's clubman is quoted in today's Irish News saying: "I think we're good enough to reach those heights again.

"Although the age profile of our squad is 23, 24, 25 and 26, we've been there for a while. We've got plenty of other things in our lives we could be getting on with but we all feel we can achieve.

"I hate harping back to 2009 but when you play the best teams in the country - like Tyrone and Kerry - you realise they're just a team playing football like us.

"With plenty of work, you can bridge the gap to the better teams.

"It's serious hard work, but gaelic football isn't a hard sport to play. I'm not particularly talented. All I am is very, very fit and have a decent pair of hands.

"I say to my mates all the time that it is a simple game when you compare it to hurling. It's one of the simplest games in the world.

"If you have a structured team and 25 to 30 fit boys who are committed to the cause, you can - with a bit of luck - do well."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 02:27:50 PM
"James Loughrey believes Antrim's footballers can reach the dizzy heights of 2009 again."

Not sure about that. We are seriously lacking in free scoring forwards either at senior or at u21 level. I think we can compete with most teams at midfield and our defence is reasonably sound but up front is a big problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on December 20, 2011, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 09:42:39 AM
Alter ego, best outcome for the club, for all those players who weren't even at slemish park. The events at ballymena are now part of a psni investigation so the consequences for those involved look severe. The fellas who carried out the violence have been identified and banned. What was the point in punishing over forty players who were not involved especially when the club cooperated fully with the investigation? You said yourself in an earlier post that the only way to deal with incidents like this is through the courts and that is exactly what is happening. As for your rant about club officials not trying to help Rm that is not correct. I was present and helped, along with a alot of the club committee. This was a shameful incident but it was wrong to punish the club as a whole so severely for the actions of half a dozen guys who were clearly identified and dealt with.       

U do make some decent points Rasharkin Gael. However, I believe Antrim football has once again became the laughing stock of Ulster over this. If they are serious about protecting the welfare of referees they must take a firm stand, particularly given the widespread coverage this brutal attack received at the time.
I know like in most cases like this it is the ordinary fella who just wants to play football that gets punished but if I was a referee I would be refusing to referee any Rasharkin games next year. I cant see how else the Antrim county board can send out a message of zero tolerance on the abuse of referees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on December 20, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on December 20, 2011, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 09:42:39 AM
Alter ego, best outcome for the club, for all those players who weren't even at slemish park. The events at ballymena are now part of a psni investigation so the consequences for those involved look severe. The fellas who carried out the violence have been identified and banned. What was the point in punishing over forty players who were not involved especially when the club cooperated fully with the investigation? You said yourself in an earlier post that the only way to deal with incidents like this is through the courts and that is exactly what is happening. As for your rant about club officials not trying to help Rm that is not correct. I was present and helped, along with a alot of the club committee. This was a shameful incident but it was wrong to punish the club as a whole so severely for the actions of half a dozen guys who were clearly identified and dealt with.       

U do make some decent points Rasharkin Gael. However, I believe Antrim football has once again became the laughing stock of Ulster over this. If they are serious about protecting the welfare of referees they must take a firm stand, particularly given the widespread coverage this brutal attack received at the time.
I know like in most cases like this it is the ordinary fella who just wants to play football that gets punished but if I was a referee I would be refusing to referee any Rasharkin games next year. I cant see how else the Antrim county board can send out a message of zero tolerance on the abuse of referees.

Why have we become the laughing stock of ulster if it was the Ulster Council that overturned the ban after an appeal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
"I believe Antrim football has once again became the laughing stock of Ulster over this"

Dont agree with this at all. The individual suspensions handed out by antrim ccc must be the more severe in my memory. Compared to the sanctions in Tyrone and Sligo Antrim CCC decisions were much more robust.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on December 20, 2011, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on December 20, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on December 20, 2011, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 09:42:39 AM
Alter ego, best outcome for the club, for all those players who weren't even at slemish park. The events at ballymena are now part of a psni investigation so the consequences for those involved look severe. The fellas who carried out the violence have been identified and banned. What was the point in punishing over forty players who were not involved especially when the club cooperated fully with the investigation? You said yourself in an earlier post that the only way to deal with incidents like this is through the courts and that is exactly what is happening. As for your rant about club officials not trying to help Rm that is not correct. I was present and helped, along with a alot of the club committee. This was a shameful incident but it was wrong to punish the club as a whole so severely for the actions of half a dozen guys who were clearly identified and dealt with.       

U do make some decent points Rasharkin Gael. However, I believe Antrim football has once again became the laughing stock of Ulster over this. If they are serious about protecting the welfare of referees they must take a firm stand, particularly given the widespread coverage this brutal attack received at the time.
I know like in most cases like this it is the ordinary fella who just wants to play football that gets punished but if I was a referee I would be refusing to referee any Rasharkin games next year. I cant see how else the Antrim county board can send out a message of zero tolerance on the abuse of referees.

Why have we become the laughing stock of ulster if it was the Ulster Council that overturned the ban after an appeal.

Ultimately the buck stops with the Gaels of Antrim to put a stop to this. I firmly believe it is still in the hands of the county board to put a stop to this.

What would happen if all the referees in Antrim came out and agreed that they would not referee any game involving Rasharkin next year in support of their collegue? For me that would send out the correct signal to the rest of Antrim and indeed Ulster.

THis is not a personal attack on Rasharkin btw. I just feel that the way these suspensions get overturned is blackening the name of our organisation.

Whats the whole point in issuing such bans in the first place? Is it merely a publicity stunt to weather the eye of the storm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 05:01:33 PM
ml, i do agree with you to some extent. There was an article this week in Gaelic Life were Liam Peoples stated that Derry had five assults on referees this season. The only answer in the short term is for clubs to name and shame these people and for the courts to deal with them. For too long we have been backward in naming individuals from within our clubs who carry out these acts, and letting them escape criminal prosecution, but if we were honest and forthright with the legal system it would soon put an end to this. In the long term , abuse and violence is a much wider social issue which we in the Gaa cannot solve without a sea change in social attitudes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on December 20, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
I do agree RG that this is perhaps a reflection on wider society as a whole.
However, if an outsider was looking in would they come to the conclusion that ultimately there is something wrong with the entire GAA community that we are unable to take a stand against this?
Once again another chance for the GAA to be shown that it will no longer stand for vicious attacks on our officals has been wasted.
The Ulster Council has also set a dangerous preceedent and as long as these bans keep getting overturned their will remain to be something fundamentally wrong in our games.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on December 20, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
An outsider looking in should come to the conclusion that if you assault a GAA referee then you can expect to be expelled from the organisation and your name given to the police.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2011, 08:26:07 PM
Matthews quit according to bbc news. Not good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 20, 2011, 08:39:01 PM
The referee attacked at an Under-21 game in October has resigned after the punishments handed out to the Rasharkin club were reduced by Ulster GAA chiefs.

Ray Matthews said he was extremely annoyed, disappointed and disgusted at the outcome of the club's appeal.

He added that he had feared for his life when he was assaulted after the Antrim U-21 semi-final in Ballymena.

Rasharkin will now be allowed to play in adult league and championship competitions in Antrim in 2012.

The county board had originally banned the club from all competitions above minor grade for the year.

Rasharkin's home ground will remain closed for senior matches next year and club's adult teams will have to play all their games at away venues.

The Ulster Council's appeal judgement said that any further transgressions over the next two years could see the original bans re-imposed.

The Antrim county board also has the option of appealing against the provincial body's ruling.

Rasharkin's appeal to the Ulster Council only concerned the sanctions handed to the club - not the hefty individual bans imposed on some club personnel.

The Antrim board expelled one player, two club members and a member of the Rasharkin coaching staff.

Matthews was taken to hospital after being assaulted at the end of the Antrim Under-21 championship semi-final game against Belfast club Lamh Dhearg.

Rasharkin remain banned from the Under-21 Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2011, 11:00:30 PM
The thing about this is that the antrim board actually stood up to it here and were overruled so antrim board, for those who think it was wrong to rescind the ban on adult teams, have no fault in this.

No one comes out of this looking good at all here.

Like people say - how would you expect this man to ever continue reffing teams like Rasharkin. If it's as bad as it was portrayed you'd have to imagine it would have a pretty scarring effect on him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2011, 11:20:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 20, 2011, 11:00:30 PM
The thing about this is that the antrim board actually stood up to it here and were overruled so antrim board, for those who think it was wrong to rescind the ban on adult teams, have no fault in this.

No one comes out of this looking good at all here.

Like people say - how would you expect this man to ever continue reffing teams like Rasharkin. If it's as bad as it was portrayed you'd have to imagine it would have a pretty scarring effect on him.

Very good Tommy,  Ray has been let down, Rasharkin Gael is a decent poster and has come across as sensible in his posts regarding the issue. But I'm with Ray on this, in that he was put into a position, not by Antrim but the UC on this and has only one option left for him, and that is to resign. The measures seemed extreme but at what point do we say, enough is enough. You assault a referee your club will get sanctions that will make them change their attitude towards it happening again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Alter Ego on December 21, 2011, 07:05:21 AM
RG as MR says you post sensible replies, still keen for you answer my previous post which you seemed to have dodged up til now seeing as you did your best to bring control during the incident that occurred which I have no doubt you did?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on December 21, 2011, 09:17:03 AM
I don't think the Antrim County Board can be faulted for there response to the attack on Ray and I hope they appeal this odious decision by the Ulster Council. In the circumstances it was only proper that Rasharkin were punished as they were. Not withstanding that there are many decent people in Rasharkin, the only way we can stamp this out is by making coming down hard on clubs in these circumstances. Shame on the Ulster Council, we in Ulster have lost a very good referee and a decent man to boot. I hope Ray changes his mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 21, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Fair play to the Antrim board coming down hard, but for me the punishment was too harsh and was never going to stick.  Banned from all home games for the year.  Excluded from championship senior, reserve and U21.  And possibly made to get a few more guys from their club to go on referees courses.  This would have been a fairer punishment IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: sheamy on December 21, 2011, 10:12:54 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on December 21, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Fair play to the Antrim board coming down hard, but for me the punishment was too harsh and was never going to stick.  Banned from all home games for the year.  Excluded from championship senior, reserve and U21.  And possibly made to get a few more guys from their club to go on referees courses.  This would have been a fairer punishment IMO.

+1. A bit of sense talked. You can't ban an entire community from sport on the actions of some arseholes. It needed to be very harsh as the actions were disgraceful but it went a tiny bit too far. Ulster Council got it right but unfortunately it looks like a climb down which creates a media storm and you can then understand the referees position in quitting.

I've never understood the rationale behind bans. They do not stop people acting the same way again. The way to address this is respect for referees. Take small examples. How many times both at club and county do you see managers and their sidekicks harangue a linesman constantly throughout a game. They figure if they only influence one decision he makes, it can change a game. This is turn creates an envrionment where the players/subs figure it's ok to have a go at the linesman and/or ref. It's a small step away from there to belting him when the shit hits the fan if you ask me.

Supporters feed off this example too and where you have dugouts beside a stand with the associated noise (I know this is not the case here), then you get a vicious cauldron type atmosphere. My point - bans do not sort the underlying problem of lack of respect for referees. IMO to publically lambast a referee should be a no no for all players and managers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LostInSpace on December 21, 2011, 11:00:10 AM
The referees in the NFL are probably the most respected referees in the sporting world, no-one talks back to them, only the team coach can query there decisions.  How do they get such a high level of respect?  The GAA needs to adopt a similar approach.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
The NFL is a not free-flowing game, a totally different game altogether!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LostInSpace on December 21, 2011, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
The NFL is a not free-flowing game, a totally different game altogether!

Its not a matter of the game, its a matter of the respect shown for the referees!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leave er in on December 21, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on December 21, 2011, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
The NFL is a not free-flowing game, a totally different game altogether!

Its not a matter of the game, its a matter of the respect shown for the referees!

As much as I appreciate your opinion that respect is whats required, to compare the GAA to the NFL is very far fetched, as previously stated it is not a free flowing game leaving it easier to officiate, there is also more than one official looking after the game therefore easier to call fouls, also due to the highly physical nature of the game it is easier to let go therefore lowering the number of contentious tackles and incidents that can be deemed as fouls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LostInSpace on December 21, 2011, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: Leave er in on December 21, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on December 21, 2011, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
The NFL is a not free-flowing game, a totally different game altogether!

Its not a matter of the game, its a matter of the respect shown for the referees!

As much as I appreciate your opinion that respect is whats required, to compare the GAA to the NFL is very far fetched, as previously stated it is not a free flowing game leaving it easier to officiate, there is also more than one official looking after the game therefore easier to call fouls, also due to the highly physical nature of the game it is easier to let go therefore lowering the number of contentious tackles and incidents that can be deemed as fouls

At any match in GAA there is 1 referee, 2 linesmen and between 2-4 umpires.  In the NFL when a foul is committed the umpire throws a yellow flag onto the field, when the play is stopped the referee decides whether there was an actual foul committed and what punishment to hand out.  When punishment is dished out, i.e 15 yards back or automatic first down, players and managers just get on with it.  There is no slabbering to referees. Some players in GAA are a law onto themselves, no respect for the referees decision. It is at times ridiculous.  I believe proper education of referees as to what constitutes a foul and education of players on how to tackle without persistent fouling is key, alot of the anger from players and supporters come from inconsistency in decisions.  As for supporters from clubs attacking referees, clubs are totally responsible.  The buck stops with the club.  Any supporter running onto a field with the intention of assaulting or verbally abusing a referee should be faced with a lifetime ban from the club grounds and attending any match.  There is a lot of respected members within clubs who love getting their photo in the paper when the club wins something, loves handing out medals at dinner dances.  Let them step up and take responsibility for there club when it counts.  Those men in Rasharkin should have faced bans from within Rasharkin GAA club before it even went to Antrim County Board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Alter Ego on December 22, 2011, 06:32:42 AM
RG still waiting on your reply, you have gone very quiet ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on December 22, 2011, 08:55:04 AM
Quote from: Alter Ego on December 22, 2011, 06:32:42 AM
RG still waiting on your reply, you have gone very quiet ???

He's probably thinking to himself - why is a Burren man only interested in commenting on Antrim Football and as a result ... not taking you seriously.

Very saddened to hear of Ray Matthews' resignation, but feel he had no other option.  The Ulster Council have taken the wrong course of action here and have completely nullified the strong and brave step that the Antrim County Board had taken.  This will send out all the wrong signals and the opportunity to ingrain a culture of respect and discipline has once again been lost, and we are once again back to square one.

I can see this turning into a lengthy post and there's last minute christmas shopping to be done  :'( ....  I'll return later on and finish this.

I don't think people should forget that this whole incident could have been a lot worse but for the actions of a group of decent souls from Lamh Dhearg.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Alter Ego on December 22, 2011, 09:22:39 AM
AF surely the Avatar says it all, or do I have to spell it out for him ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Alter Ego on December 23, 2011, 05:35:52 PM
Couldn't believe my ears today when I was told on strong authority that an Antrim man (St Pauls) masterminded the whole process at UC resulting in the decisions being overturned on the Ray Matthews saga, just because he had old vendetta against present county officials, and for use younger lads out their that wouldn't remember the "Milky Bar"/E Mc M he was past Antrim Secretary that kissed ass to run for UC secretary but didn't get the support within his own executive, weren't they right! This was a man who allegedly when antrim secretary made such a B**** Up one day and a whistle blower nearly outed him-but used the excuse no in fact lied that a relation had a very very serious illness to get himself out of the shit and keep it under raps when she didn't! Gutless spineless wee B******S.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on December 23, 2011, 06:18:56 PM
Alter Ego - go have a Christmas drink and shut the fcuk up - leave us Antrim folk in peace over Christmas, and come back to your personal crusades in 2012 when someone might take you on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 27, 2011, 04:28:31 PM
It may be HO HO HO now RG, but I would say the referee's will have the last HO HO HO come the season, and I would be keen as an active referee to see your responses to AE, he has made a few real and true statements in some of his recent posts and you do seem to have dodged the issues, forgetting his last post which was a bit OTT! I personally will not take the field in any game involving Rasharkin and this is based on purely on what took place at UC  which has sickened me to my stomach that people would do such things which I will not detail on this site or any other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 03, 2012, 07:57:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on December 23, 2011, 06:18:56 PM
Alter Ego - go have a Christmas drink and shut the fcuk up - leave us Antrim folk in peace over Christmas, and come back to your personal crusades in 2012 when someone might take you on.
Me thinks (AE) has his own hidden agenda here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
Antrim team to play Fermanagh in the McKenna Cup on Sunday at Brewster Park, Enniskillen

1  Willie McSorley (St Brigid's)

2  Patrick Gallagher (Glenavy)
3  Ricky Johnston (Creggan)
4  Ryan Daly (St. Brigid's)

5  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7  James Loughrey (St. Brigid's)

8  Conal Kelly (St. John's)
9  Aodhan Gallagher (St. Gall's) Captain

10 Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11 Kevin Marron (Moneyglass)
12 Michael Armstrong (O'Donovan Rossa)

13 Colm Duffin (Moneyglass)
14 Michael Magill (Randalstown)
15 Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)

16 Chris Kerr (St Gall's)
17 Kevin Brady (Moneyglass)
18 Mark Dougan (Creggan)
19 Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)
20 Marty Johnston (Creggan)
21 Mark McAleese (Portglenone)
22 Patrick McBride (St John's)
23 Michael McCann (Cargin)
24 Tomas McCann (Cargin)
25 Simon McDonagh (St. John's)
26 Brian Neeson (St. John's)
27 Deaghlan O'Hagan (St. Brigid's)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
Quote from: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
Antrim team to play Fermanagh in the McKenna Cup on Sunday at Brewster Park, Enniskillen

1  Willie McSorley (St Brigid's)

2  Patrick Gallagher (Glenavy)
3  Ricky Johnston (Creggan)
4  Ryan Daly (St. Brigid's)

5  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7  James Loughrey (St. Brigid's)

8  Conal Kelly (St. John's)
9  Aodhan Gallagher (St. Gall's) Captain

10 Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11 Kevin Marron (Moneyglass)
12 Michael Armstrong (O'Donovan Rossa)

13 Colm Duffin (Moneyglass)
14 Michael Magill (Randalstown)
15 Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)

16 Chris Kerr (St Gall's)
17 Kevin Brady (Moneyglass)
18 Mark Dougan (Creggan)
19 Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)
20 Marty Johnston (Creggan)
21 Mark McAleese (Portglenone)
22 Patrick McBride (St John's)
23 Michael McCann (Cargin)
24 Tomas McCann (Cargin)
25 Simon McDonagh (St. John's)
26 Brian Neeson (St. John's)
27 Deaghlan O'Hagan (St. Brigid's)

Great to see Aodhan (Aidso) getting this, lovely fella. Was Baker scared that he would have given the hurling a go this year?

Will have words with him tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 06, 2012, 12:04:30 PM
Why so very few Gall's men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 12:26:07 PM
MR2 can probably enlighten us but I think a couple (Colin Brady, Andy McClean) injured and a couple being rested.  Kevin O'Boyle out injured too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2012, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
Quote from: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
Antrim team to play Fermanagh in the McKenna Cup on Sunday at Brewster Park, Enniskillen

1  Willie McSorley (St Brigid's)

2  Patrick Gallagher (Glenavy)
3  Ricky Johnston (Creggan)
4  Ryan Daly (St. Brigid's)

5  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7  James Loughrey (St. Brigid's)

8  Conal Kelly (St. John's)
9  Aodhan Gallagher (St. Gall's) Captain

10 Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11 Kevin Marron (Moneyglass)
12 Michael Armstrong (O'Donovan Rossa)

13 Colm Duffin (Moneyglass)
14 Michael Magill (Randalstown)
15 Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)

16 Chris Kerr (St Gall's)
17 Kevin Brady (Moneyglass)
18 Mark Dougan (Creggan)
19 Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)
20 Marty Johnston (Creggan)
21 Mark McAleese (Portglenone)
22 Patrick McBride (St John's)
23 Michael McCann (Cargin)
24 Tomas McCann (Cargin)
25 Simon McDonagh (St. John's)
26 Brian Neeson (St. John's)
27 Deaghlan O'Hagan (St. Brigid's)

Great to see Aodhan (Aidso) getting this, lovely fella. Was Baker scared that he would have given the hurling a go this year?

Will have words with him tomorrow ;)

I would say this could be very likely but none the less deserved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 01:55:53 PM
Is Duffin not randalstown?

What age is Kevin Marron?

Have never heard of Daly. Good to see Kelly back though not sure he's a midfielder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 01:55:53 PM
Is Duffin not randalstown?

What age is Kevin Marron?

Have never heard of Daly. Good to see Kelly back though not sure he's a midfielder.

26/27?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 01:55:53 PM
Is Duffin not randalstown?

What age is Kevin Marron?

Have never heard of Daly. Good to see Kelly back though not sure he's a midfielder.

Isn't he the boy from Monaghan, nephew of Sean McCague, or is that someone else I'm thinking of ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 06, 2012, 03:25:56 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 01:55:53 PM
Is Duffin not randalstown?

What age is Kevin Marron?

Have never heard of Daly. Good to see Kelly back though not sure he's a midfielder.

Isn't he the boy from Monaghan, nephew of Sean McCague, or is that someone else I'm thinking of ???

Yes, Monaghan man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 03:27:55 PM
Oh dear - I hope it works out better than that Tyrone boy last year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 06, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 03:27:55 PM
Oh dear - I hope it works out better than that Tyrone boy last year!

Aye, at least he plays for an Antrim club which is a good start!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 06, 2012, 05:49:12 PM
Interesting half forward line. This has been the weakest link in the team for a number of years so good to see baker trying some new players in here. Murray is an excellent talent, haven't seen Armstrong but have heard good reports and Marron has been good for m'glass last season do deserves his chance. Fermanagh will be hard to beat with the new impetus the management team has given them and most of their more talented players back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 07, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
Interesting team for sunday. C Kelly is very languid on the ball with good hands but will be interesting to see how he fairs at midfield as he's not the tallest. Fermanagh's midfield wouldnt be the bulkiest so he may fair well.

Hope 11 plays well we need an option to support Niblock there.

Glad to see Magill back--when in shape is our best leader of the attack

Half back line is 1st class

#saffronarmy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 08, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Oh dear, not a good start at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 08, 2012, 09:49:48 PM
Anyone at enniskillen. Can't have been good. I feared for a Fermanagh backlash with their new set up but I thought we would have been more competitive. Still, it's important for baker to give new players a chance to try an unearth some talent so can't criticise .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Read a wee bit on the fermanagh thread on it. Mick McCann sent off and apparently wheels fell off after that. Quigley hit 1-3 in last 15. Sounded like, according to fermanagh thread, he should have been off.

Sounded like McCloskey/ Little ran the show. Two good players who unfortunately we wouldn't have the like of...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 08, 2012, 10:23:08 PM
Little and quigley are good players, hard to handle when on form. Was going to go to Brewster park this morning but ended up taking kids to albin and the chipmunks 3 ( chip wrecked), complained about it at the time but by that result I think I made a wise move!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 09, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
Little only came on in the second half - looked lively at times, but certainly didnt run the show. McCloskey was good at centre-half back, but he hadnt much to do on Marron to be honest, and with the ball in hand hes a very good player. Marron is a sublime kicker, but question marks over his workrate and ability to evade a marker, and he didnt show that well yesterday (not on his own in that regard by any means).

Fermanagh had a lot more possession, and should have been further ahead than 3/4 at ht, and the 3/4 they were ahead when M McCann was sent off. Once he went, fermanagh did pull away a bit, but even with that missed plenty too.

Fermanaghs mf was a big unknown, but did well. For Antrim though, Conall Kelly looked comfortable on the ball, scored a great goal, and will be a good addition. Aodhan Gallagher was anonymous, when he would have been expected to be dominant.

Neither antrim corner back was great, R Johnston hadnt a bad game, but Quigley was on fire so hit 1-8, I'd say 1-4 from play(?)

Entire antrim forward line was anonymous for long periods, though magill was an option. He was too isolated though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 09, 2012, 09:16:44 AM
Was at the game.  Pretty shambolic from Antrim.  Great goal from Kelly in Antrim's only good move of the match but apart from that little positive from the game.  Fermanagh were up for the game more and wanted to win it.  The scoreline flatters them a bit as Antrim more or less switched off after the sending off.  Mark Little wasn't on long enough to run the show, sounds like a Fermanagh poster getting his players mixed up!  McCloskey was very comfortable as the extra man and caught the eye after McCann got the line but wouldn't say he ran the show either.  I actually thought Ricky Johnston played Quigley very well and he only got 2 (I think) from play up until Antrim went down to 14.  He should have got the line in ithe fisticuffs, looked like a sly dig at Michael Armstrong while he was on the ground after being fouled.  Fermanagh seem to favour the high tackle under Canavan.

On that performance Fermangh probably will get out of Div 4 and Antrim haven't a sweat of getting out of Div 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 09, 2012, 10:16:42 AM
Agree with most of the above.

Johnston did rightly getting out in front a couple of times as quite a bit of ball raining down on him/Quigley in first half. One wonders though how he'll do when he is marking a player who can run the length of himself.
Actually thought the corner backs weren't too bad...they were pretty exposed for most of the game and out in front a few times. Though Daly caught slightly for pace on the first goal you'll see in the clip he caught his man, knocked him off the ball but the ball broke for him and he sidefooted it in. Shame...one would have hoped his man was met earlier when he set off.

It was at HB/Midfield/HF that we were exposed.
Loughrey was his usual self up and down and good tackling - save for a couple of dodgy hand to toes which will hopefully be ironed out with more on field training.
Crozier and Scullion were anonymous and their men got on a few good balls. Tony is learning to kick the ball with the inside of the boot, which is good.
Same with Gallagher and Kelly re the anonymity (save for a good finish by Kelly for the goal). Gallagher made a couple of catches but was off the boil, while Kelly has a great engine, is comfortable on the ball itself and should be an asset his passing in to the forward line left a little to be desired - 3/4 going over the endline.
Murray/Cunningham (started at CHF) and Armstrong weren't really at the races. Paddy sits off and tries to pick a pass too much instead of the hard graft (maybe its the soft wet bal of winter but he wasn't getting the distance from play/frees he normally does and a few dropped short...Armstrong looks for the tackle/contact instead of avoiding (always think this is senseless).
Agree re Marron, sweet kicker of the football and good on the ball but drifts in and out.  Colm Duffin largely anonymous but didn't get alot of ball.

Magill was a plus...good on ball, couple of good scores, lay off for the goal. When he trims down a bit with training and if he sticks at it he'll be an asset as a target man as others have said. He wasn't impressed to be taken off and re this specific game I agree with him - but hoping Bradley was just giving game time to others...Magill is very impoortant to us.

Tomas McCann came on and looked lively but had a couple of chances to immediately turn on the ball and go at the last man...he needs to do this more and use his running/speed.
Mick McCann is great player but let himself and his teammates down yesterday...post the fight in which he was booked he gave the refereee no alternative but to send him off. Antrim had been on a roll up to that point and they died from there.

Agree re the high tackles from Fermanagh...don't think anything malicious save for a rugby tackle by McCluskey for which he only got ticked. Reckon it was just start of the year/tired legs stuff.

Alot to work on for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 09, 2012, 11:24:48 AM
Aye, Magill looked to have taken the quare hump at being subbed!  Understandable as he was Antrim's best forward (not saying much).  Fully fit and committed he could be a big plus for Antrim later in the year.This was my first look at a few of these players.  Michael Armstrong had a few positives, he was always looking for the ball and is a worker as he covered a fair bit of ground and looks to have a bit of potential once he learns that even at McKenna Cup level you don't have the time for the extra solo or hop.  Maybe it's modern football but both sets of players seemed happy to take the ball into the tackle as Plan A which on a day like yesterday led to a lot of spilled ball/lost possession.  Conal Kelly was good with the ball in hand and "looks" like a footballer, if you get my drift.  He got 1-1 in a poor overall team performance, but as you say Glensman some of his passing was a bit off.  None of the rest really stuck out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 09, 2012, 11:44:53 AM
Though it's never nice to lose, especially to a Fermanagh team who have been so bad recently, I wouldn't be overly concerned with the result. At this early stage in the season the results don't necessarily give a good indicator of how a team will do. Look at last year, Donegal lost to Tyrone and Fermanagh, only beating Jordanstown and they went on to have a great year. I'm not predicting an All Ireland Semi Final but I definitely think we have what it takes to get out of Division 3.

Also I see CJ seems to have had a good game for UUJ against Donegal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 09, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
See in the Irish snooze baker has the team training 5 nights a week! Thats a bit rough , if its true, its a long season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 09, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 09, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
See in the Irish snooze baker has the team training 5 nights a week! Thats a bit rough , if its true, its a long season.

Isn't that the norm at this stage. I'm sure most of the bigger counties probably are doing at 5 or more sessions a week, both Donegal and Dublin are doing the early morning sessions. I think it's a bit excessive, 3 times a week should be enough and let the players do their own stuff on their free days. When the club training starts up again there could be a bit of bother trying to accommodate everyone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 04:33:10 PM
I hear Croke (CC) have washed their hands of the Rasharkin/Antrim/Ulster Council appeal, and referred it back, nothing new there! Now we see who has the courage of their convictions, terrible slight on referee's and there safety going forward, this should be fun. Time for the Referee's committee to do the right thing and give all referee's a voice and deal with their safety at games, as stated couldn't care less about the appeal process and what happens, but no excuse's from the committee now process has taken it's course lets now deal with the real issues, and take responsibility for once!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 09, 2012, 04:35:21 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 09, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
See in the Irish snooze baker has the team training 5 nights a week! Thats a bit rough , if its true, its a long season.

Brendan Crossan was at a different game to me!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
MIBAG in all seriousness why don't some of you refs go to the media if you feel so strongly. I'm sure the irish news would quite happily do a piece on referee safety within antrim if some, notable, referee felt strongly enough and put themselves forward. Somewhere like that is as good a place as any for it. It would need a face behind it and not anonymity.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
I thought that was already happening with Ray and Speedy, its not media we need it's our own people taking responsibility for what we have at present and actually doing something about it, most of them get enough expenses every year to justify some sort of action! To date no-one from our committee has even bothered their backsides doing anything from what I am told, what does that say! I agree whole heartedly if they wont do anything then they shouldn't be there, as they only represent themselves, same as a club committee, if it doesn't perform then get someone else, these people where not elected by referee's maybe that something we all need to look at, and maybe we can improve a lot of things including our own standards for one thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 09, 2012, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
these people where not elected by referee's

They were.  Referee's are members of clubs and clubs elect people into positions on the county committee.

What, specificially, do you want them to do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 09, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
HOT OF THE PRESS: A friend of mine who works in Croker just told me this evening the Rasharkin incident involving Ray Mathews has been thrown out and referred back to Ulster.  It also transpires the Antrim Executive are to convene this evening in Antrim to discuss there next course of action.  Seems like Rasharkin are not out of the woods yet, but then Ulster Council (in which Rasharkin an inside vested interest) may just get their way yet.  Interesting times ahead.  I just wonder how Antrim Executive will proceed now?  Anyword on Mibag starting the Antrim Referees revolt? Come on OE, CC, what's you stance on this now?  Clearly either one of you have been outed as Mibag  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 09, 2012, 07:52:41 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 09, 2012, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
these people where not elected by referee's

They were.  Referee's are members of clubs and clubs elect people into positions on the county committee.

What, specificially, do you want them to do?
Stand up and grow a pair of the old liathróidí would be a good start?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 09, 2012, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
these people where not elected by referee's

They were.  Referee's are members of clubs and clubs elect people into positions on the county committee.

What, specificially, do you want them to do?

I suggest you check your facts in relation to how the Referee's committee is appointed, which is what the point was, do you actually take the time to read or do you just like to wade in every opportunity 4father? You continually challenge posts you must have a thing for referee's yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2012, 08:26:34 PM
Being a referee myself, I have yet to hear of any strike action or any action for that matter from any other refs!! Some hearsay on here but that's all.

Is there any talk from the 'main ;)' referees about this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 09, 2012, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
I suggest you check your facts in relation to how the Referee's committee is appointed, which is what the point was, do you actually take the time to read or do you just like to wade in every opportunity 4father? You continually challenge posts you must have a thing for referee's yourself.

I've loads of respect for referee's mate.  Really, I do.  I am just constantly trying to decipher your posts about people doing 'things' and doing 'something' but i don't actually know what that's supposed to mean.

You wrote that 'these people where [sic] not elected by referee's' which is wrong.  The referees committee is a body set up.  No matter what position you hold in the GAA from the president to the lonely referee come from clubs and have as much right as any other member to have your say when it comes to voting (or electing people). 

What, specifically, would you like the Antrim board to do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on January 10, 2012, 12:34:27 AM
What is the referee's grievance here?

There was full co-operation with the investigation, individuals were identified and expelled from the GAA.
The club also received a severe penalty (pitch closed for a year) and a fine.

Do you think that players who weren't even there should be further punished?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
I thought that was already happening with Ray and Speedy, its not media we need it's our own people taking responsibility for what we have at present and actually doing something about it, most of them get enough expenses every year to justify some sort of action! To date no-one from our committee has even bothered their backsides doing anything from what I am told, what does that say! I agree whole heartedly if they wont do anything then they shouldn't be there, as they only represent themselves, same as a club committee, if it doesn't perform then get someone else, these people where not elected by referee's maybe that something we all need to look at, and maybe we can improve a lot of things including our own standards for one thing?

If speedy would keep his mouth shut it would help their cause more. He should concentrate more on his own performances and actions on and off the field before going on the TV spouting about anyone.

Unbelievable brass neck on the man  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 10, 2012, 01:40:53 PM
Has Ryan Daly ever kicked in the Antrim leagues?

1  WILLIE MC SORLEY

2  PATRICK GALLAGHER
3  RICKY JOHNSTON
4  RYAN DALY

5  TONY SCULLION
6  JUSTIN CROZIER
7  JAMES LOUGHERY

8  CONAL KELLY
9  AODHON GALLAGHER

10 CONOR MURRAY
11 KEVIN MARRON
12 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG

13 COLM DUFFIN
14 MICHAEL MAGILL
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 10, 2012, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 10, 2012, 01:40:53 PM
Has Ryan Daly ever kicked in the Antrim leagues?

I think so. I think he's been with St brigids for a year after leaving Scotstown, so chances are he has played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 10, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
I thought that was already happening with Ray and Speedy, its not media we need it's our own people taking responsibility for what we have at present and actually doing something about it, most of them get enough expenses every year to justify some sort of action! To date no-one from our committee has even bothered their backsides doing anything from what I am told, what does that say! I agree whole heartedly if they wont do anything then they shouldn't be there, as they only represent themselves, same as a club committee, if it doesn't perform then get someone else, these people where not elected by referee's maybe that something we all need to look at, and maybe we can improve a lot of things including our own standards for one thing?

If speedy would keep his mouth shut it would help their cause more. He should concentrate more on his own performances and actions on and off the field before going on the TV spouting about anyone.

Unbelievable brass neck on the man  >:(

So brush it under the carpet and pretend this did not happen, ur beginning to sound like a proverbial Shinner. People could have been seriously hurt and injured here and in your book that is fine? Fair play to Speedy, he stood and was counted, can others who were their say the same??  Grab a hold of yourself lad, I for one hope the referees do something positive with reference to Rasharkin as a sincere act of solidarity with RM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on January 10, 2012, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 09, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
Little only came on in the second half - looked lively at times, but certainly didnt run the show. McCloskey was good at centre-half back, but he hadnt much to do on Marron to be honest, and with the ball in hand hes a very good player. Marron is a sublime kicker, but question marks over his workrate and ability to evade a marker, and he didnt show that well yesterday (not on his own in that regard by any means).

McCloskey was on Cunningham I believe. Who shouldn't be a half forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 10, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 10, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 10, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
I thought that was already happening with Ray and Speedy, its not media we need it's our own people taking responsibility for what we have at present and actually doing something about it, most of them get enough expenses every year to justify some sort of action! To date no-one from our committee has even bothered their backsides doing anything from what I am told, what does that say! I agree whole heartedly if they wont do anything then they shouldn't be there, as they only represent themselves, same as a club committee, if it doesn't perform then get someone else, these people where not elected by referee's maybe that something we all need to look at, and maybe we can improve a lot of things including our own standards for one thing?

If speedy would keep his mouth shut it would help their cause more. He should concentrate more on his own performances and actions on and off the field before going on the TV spouting about anyone.

Unbelievable brass neck on the man  >:(

So brush it under the carpet and pretend this did not happen, ur beginning to sound like a proverbial Shinner. People could have been seriously hurt and injured here and in your book that is fine? Fair play to Speedy, he stood and was counted, can others who were their say the same??  Grab a hold of yourself lad, I for one hope the referees do something positive with reference to Rasharkin as a sincere act of solidarity with RM.
Why do you spell the word 'Saint' as Noamh instead of Naomh? Looks fcukin stupid, to be honest.
As shit, me old Long Kesh Irish.  And talking about looking stupid, at least I did not fall out of the Ugly Tree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 11, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 10, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 09, 2012, 07:05:23 PM
I thought that was already happening with Ray and Speedy, its not media we need it's our own people taking responsibility for what we have at present and actually doing something about it, most of them get enough expenses every year to justify some sort of action! To date no-one from our committee has even bothered their backsides doing anything from what I am told, what does that say! I agree whole heartedly if they wont do anything then they shouldn't be there, as they only represent themselves, same as a club committee, if it doesn't perform then get someone else, these people where not elected by referee's maybe that something we all need to look at, and maybe we can improve a lot of things including our own standards for one thing?


If speedy would keep his mouth shut it would help their cause more. He should concentrate more on his own performances and actions on and off the field before going on the TV spouting about anyone.

Unbelievable brass neck on the man  >:(

So brush it under the carpet and pretend this did not happen, ur beginning to sound like a proverbial Shinner. People could have been seriously hurt and injured here and in your book that is fine? Fair play to Speedy, he stood and was counted, can others who were their say the same??  Grab a hold of yourself lad, I for one hope the referees do something positive with reference to Rasharkin as a sincere act of solidarity with RM.


Was nothing to do with Speedy he is not the representative for the referee's, all I was saying was looking into his past I would have kept my mouth shut.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 11, 2012, 01:57:55 PM
And may I add, what gives you the right to judge on anybody's past on this forum?  Personal vendetta here it seems  >:(     So, u can have an opinion whilst the opinion of others is totally disregarded, seems unfair in my book.  :-[  Are you a referee, where you there?  Well he is and was there, enough said!

See my comment below pertaining to those with OPINIONS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 11, 2012, 03:32:05 PM
Not a personal vendetta when I am commenting on facts.

My opinion of him is neither here nor there, but when he starts spouting in the media he leaves himself open to comment and in this case criticism.

He has his opinion yes but when he totally contradicts his actions then I think it is only fair to criticise this or is he above criticism?

No am not a referee, no I wasnt there but I never claimed to be either of those two thing, so your point is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 12, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on January 10, 2012, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 09, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
Little only came on in the second half - looked lively at times, but certainly didnt run the show. McCloskey was good at centre-half back, but he hadnt much to do on Marron to be honest, and with the ball in hand hes a very good player. Marron is a sublime kicker, but question marks over his workrate and ability to evade a marker, and he didnt show that well yesterday (not on his own in that regard by any means).

McCloskey was on Cunningham I believe. Who shouldn't be a half forward.

Nope, from what I saw the half forward line lined out as selected, as did fermanaghs half back line. I wasnt in a central position, so couldnt be completely sure in the first half, but certainly in the second mccloskey was on marron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 12, 2012, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 12, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on January 10, 2012, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 09, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
Little only came on in the second half - looked lively at times, but certainly didnt run the show. McCloskey was good at centre-half back, but he hadnt much to do on Marron to be honest, and with the ball in hand hes a very good player. Marron is a sublime kicker, but question marks over his workrate and ability to evade a marker, and he didnt show that well yesterday (not on his own in that regard by any means).

McCloskey was on Cunningham I believe. Who shouldn't be a half forward.

Nope, from what I saw the half forward line lined out as selected, as did fermanaghs half back line. I wasnt in a central position, so couldnt be completely sure in the first half, but certainly in the second mccloskey was on marron.

Cunningham lined out at CHF at the start of the 2nd half with McCloskey on him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on January 12, 2012, 07:41:22 PM
Correction - Cunningham played CHF the full game bar perhaps a spell towards the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 12, 2012, 07:51:19 PM
Hmmmmmmm....

Is it just me or is MickeyMacMhagUidhir beginning to show signs that he's been here before (or maybe quite a few times?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 12, 2012, 11:55:26 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 12, 2012, 07:51:19 PM
Hmmmmmmm....

Is it just me or is MickeyMacMhagUidhir beginning to show signs that he's been here before (or maybe quite a few times?)

First time on here.  Just thought I would sign up and see what all the fuss was about Rasharkin.   A load of old tripe if you me\ sure them boys always get a way with murder, they have a history of this type of behaviour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 13, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Team for sunday:

1  Chris Kerr

2  Justin Crozier
3  Ricky Johnston
4  Marty Johnston

5  Sean Finch
6  Deaghlan O'Hagan
7  James Loughery

8  Conal Kelly
9  Simon Mc Donagh

10 Conor Murray
11 Kevin Brady
12 Michael Armstrong

13 Brian Neeson
14 Mark Dougan
15 Paddy Cunningham

It's good to see Bradley changing things up a bit and giving everyone a bit of game time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 13, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
Bit of an experimental look about it but I suppose that's what the McKenna Cup is for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 13, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
Bit of an experimental look about it but I suppose that's what the McKenna Cup is for?
I might get my wife to bring her gear with her down to Casement tomorrow, by the look of things she might get on.  That Bradley fella is an idiot of the first order. :(  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2012, 11:36:02 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.

thats what I'm hearing. Fit for club championship ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
Sorry to hear that. I'm sure he was looking forward to this year with the hip finally sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Squareball71 on January 15, 2012, 09:35:01 AM
He was in a lot of pain last night... looked a very serious injury... good luck for his return!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 15, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

Yip, you definitely have been here before. 

Good luck to young CJ, nothing to be laughed at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 11:37:50 AM
 ??? That's unfortunate - especially with the hip sorted. Real shame. Hope he recovers quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 15, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 13, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
Bit of an experimental look about it but I suppose that's what the McKenna Cup is for?
I might get my wife to bring her gear with her down to Casement tomorrow, by the look of things she might get on.  That Bradley fella is an idiot of the first order. :(  :-\

Tyr 1-12 Ant 0-10.  Your missus might have made the difference!

CJ's injury is no joke.  BBC reporting a broken fibula.  Best of luck to the fella and hope we see him back to full fitness sometime this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 15, 2012, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

mmmmmmmmm....says alot about the poster!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 09:18:47 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 15, 2012, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

mmmmmmmmm....says alot about the poster!
Amazing, a Rasharkin person with a conscience, what next?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 15, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

Yip, you definitely have been here before. 

Good luck to young CJ, nothing to be laughed at.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, just airing an opinion  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 15, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

Yip, you definitely have been here before. 

Good luck to young CJ, nothing to be laughed at.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, just airing an opinion  ;D
Whats your opinion then on the Johnstons leaving 'your ;)' club for Rossa then?

I was speaking to a real St Johns man the other day, he seems to think it's a done deal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 15, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

Yip, you definitely have been here before. 

Good luck to young CJ, nothing to be laughed at.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, just airing an opinion  ;D
Whats your opinion then on the Johnstons leaving 'your ;)' club for Rossa then?

I was speaking to a real St Johns man the other day, he seems to think it's a done deal

What?! Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 10:19:56 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 15, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 15, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

Yip, you definitely have been here before. 

Good luck to young CJ, nothing to be laughed at.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, just airing an opinion  ;D
Whats your opinion then on the Johnstons leaving 'your ;)' club for Rossa then?

I was speaking to a real St Johns man the other day, he seems to think it's a done deal

What?! Who?

Keep up Gold, there seems to be some sort of fall out and they are off to Rossa to play hurling. I thought they would go to the best Belfast hurling club  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 15, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 14, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 14, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
Suspected broken ankle tonight for CJ McGourty, playing for UUJ.
Well, he is never likely to break his brain.   :D

Yip, you definitely have been here before. 

Good luck to young CJ, nothing to be laughed at.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, just airing an opinion  ;D
Whats your opinion then on the Johnstons leaving 'your ;)' club for Rossa then?

I was speaking to a real St Johns man the other day, he seems to think it's a done deal
I was talking to Mickey myself today at Casement.  His lad Ciaran is happy to be with Rossa and has no regrets.  However, Rossa people are Rossa people and Naomh Eoin people are Naomh Eoin people.  The two lads may find it hard to settle all the same. If kids are not happy with any club, I am all for them moving on.  They don't owe clubs that much.  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 11:50:01 PM
Antrim opened their Casement 2012 yearbook this afternoon (what about Fermanagh last Sunday?)and while a 5 point defeat to Tyrone means that last year's McKenna Cup progress won't be matched, there was still plenty of positives to be taken from what was an entertaining game. 

Antrim started with a few new faces as Baker and his team continue the search for new Saffron talent, and a few boys will have enhanced their chances of a gaining a place on the team come the league. In the opening exchanges possession was shared but Tyrone had more shots at the posts. The 3 times All Ireland champions had left their shooting boots somewhere on the M1 however and hit too many wides.

Four of Antrim's first half points came from play and there some excellent scores among them from midfielder Conal Kelly and in particular Brian Neeson. Indeed Neeson shone brightly in the first half and alongside his two points he could have had two more only for one dropping short and another hitting the post. Paddy Cunningham was playing a deeper role and hit a terrific score from play and one from a free to leave Antrim with a two point half time lead.

By this stage the Red Hands had already looked to the bench for a bit of experience and had introduced someone called Stephen O'Neill. They upped the tempo at the start of the second half and hit 6 unanswered points to race into a 4 point lead.

Antrim too had experienced players to call on and the introduction of Aodhán Gallagher and Tomas McCann steadied things at midfield and provided another focal point of the attack. Conal Kelly's second point of the game signalled a Saffron revival and further scores from McCann and Cunningham brought Antrim to within a point of Tyrone.

At this time the game turned; Tomas McCann collected a great ball and hit a powerful shot on the run bringing off a great save from John Devine. Shortly afterwards the Antrim half forward unit lost possession and in the subsequent play Tyrone went the length of the field, exploiting space, and eventually Stephen O'Neill netted. Had McCann's effort gone in, who knows?

Afterwards Liam Bradley took the positives from the game.
"We don't like losing and it didn't look a 5 point game. If one of our goal chances had gone in, it could have been different but our lads will learn from that."

Next up for Antrim is the final Power NI McKenna Cup game V Queens on Wednesday night, before the national league starts on Saturday 4th February.

Brendan Mulgrew

Mulgrew must have been at a different game than the one I was at.  Pure f**king crap.  We will still be talking about the same fundamental issues this time next year and we will not have moved any further on.  You can talk about big, strong lads, strength and conditioning all you want, it will take a lot more than that in my book.  That idiot Bradley is a real bufoon.  Put it like this, if he is not good enough as the Messiah in Derry, he's not any good for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 16, 2012, 12:43:46 PM
u21 footballers beat by Armagh on Sunday at Aghagallon, 2-12 t0 2-09. Forwards once again extremely wasteful but still not a bad result so early in the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 16, 2012, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 11:50:01 PM
Antrim opened their Casement 2012 yearbook this afternoon (what about Fermanagh last Sunday?)and while a 5 point defeat to Tyrone means that last year's McKenna Cup progress won't be matched, there was still plenty of positives to be taken from what was an entertaining game. 

Antrim started with a few new faces as Baker and his team continue the search for new Saffron talent, and a few boys will have enhanced their chances of a gaining a place on the team come the league. In the opening exchanges possession was shared but Tyrone had more shots at the posts. The 3 times All Ireland champions had left their shooting boots somewhere on the M1 however and hit too many wides.

Four of Antrim's first half points came from play and there some excellent scores among them from midfielder Conal Kelly and in particular Brian Neeson. Indeed Neeson shone brightly in the first half and alongside his two points he could have had two more only for one dropping short and another hitting the post. Paddy Cunningham was playing a deeper role and hit a terrific score from play and one from a free to leave Antrim with a two point half time lead.

By this stage the Red Hands had already looked to the bench for a bit of experience and had introduced someone called Stephen O'Neill. They upped the tempo at the start of the second half and hit 6 unanswered points to race into a 4 point lead.

Antrim too had experienced players to call on and the introduction of Aodhán Gallagher and Tomas McCann steadied things at midfield and provided another focal point of the attack. Conal Kelly's second point of the game signalled a Saffron revival and further scores from McCann and Cunningham brought Antrim to within a point of Tyrone.

At this time the game turned; Tomas McCann collected a great ball and hit a powerful shot on the run bringing off a great save from John Devine. Shortly afterwards the Antrim half forward unit lost possession and in the subsequent play Tyrone went the length of the field, exploiting space, and eventually Stephen O'Neill netted. Had McCann's effort gone in, who knows?

Afterwards Liam Bradley took the positives from the game.
"We don't like losing and it didn't look a 5 point game. If one of our goal chances had gone in, it could have been different but our lads will learn from that."

Next up for Antrim is the final Power NI McKenna Cup game V Queens on Wednesday night, before the national league starts on Saturday 4th February.

Brendan Mulgrew

Mulgrew must have been at a different game than the one I was at.  Pure f**king crap.  We will still be talking about the same fundamental issues this time next year and we will not have moved any further on.  You can talk about big, strong lads, strength and conditioning all you want, it will take a lot more than that in my book.  That idiot Bradley is a real bufoon.  Put it like this, if he is not good enough as the Messiah in Derry, he's not any good for us.

The Fermanagh game was played in Enniskillen, not Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 16, 2012, 09:27:40 PM
Its early days and to be honest a lot will depend on the type of training thats going on. The players love the new conditioning programme and Paddy Finn (Paul Mc Flynn) and Geroid are creating a good impression too, according to the players Ive spoken too.

Much bigger tests ahead, and it is vital to time your run properly to have something in the tank for the championship. We should have one priority this year - away to Monaghan in the championship. Give me a victory there (very possible) and I wouldnt give a toss about Division Three - just as long as we get enough points to stay up. Its all about the summer months, everything else is second fiddle.

Except in Antrim, of course! Lets get to a league final in Croke Park and lots of newspaper coverage - and then go out like a light when it matters most! Hopefully Paddy Finn will bring true championship tradition to the set up, ala An Lub.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
BS key hopes from the league for me would be to stay up and to blood some new talent. There are areas we are weak in. Scoring forwards - though Magill should help and I'd like to see more of Mark Dougan come championship time - marking defenders and half forwards being the key areas for me we need to develop.

Armagh were minor champions about 3 years ago were they not? Easy enough for them if I recall correctly so maybe not too bad a result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 16, 2012, 10:04:01 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 16, 2012, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 15, 2012, 11:50:01 PM
Antrim opened their Casement 2012 yearbook this afternoon (what about Fermanagh last Sunday?)and while a 5 point defeat to Tyrone means that last year's McKenna Cup progress won't be matched, there was still plenty of positives to be taken from what was an entertaining game. 

Antrim started with a few new faces as Baker and his team continue the search for new Saffron talent, and a few boys will have enhanced their chances of a gaining a place on the team come the league. In the opening exchanges possession was shared but Tyrone had more shots at the posts. The 3 times All Ireland champions had left their shooting boots somewhere on the M1 however and hit too many wides.

Four of Antrim's first half points came from play and there some excellent scores among them from midfielder Conal Kelly and in particular Brian Neeson. Indeed Neeson shone brightly in the first half and alongside his two points he could have had two more only for one dropping short and another hitting the post. Paddy Cunningham was playing a deeper role and hit a terrific score from play and one from a free to leave Antrim with a two point half time lead.

By this stage the Red Hands had already looked to the bench for a bit of experience and had introduced someone called Stephen O'Neill. They upped the tempo at the start of the second half and hit 6 unanswered points to race into a 4 point lead.

Antrim too had experienced players to call on and the introduction of Aodhán Gallagher and Tomas McCann steadied things at midfield and provided another focal point of the attack. Conal Kelly's second point of the game signalled a Saffron revival and further scores from McCann and Cunningham brought Antrim to within a point of Tyrone.

At this time the game turned; Tomas McCann collected a great ball and hit a powerful shot on the run bringing off a great save from John Devine. Shortly afterwards the Antrim half forward unit lost possession and in the subsequent play Tyrone went the length of the field, exploiting space, and eventually Stephen O'Neill netted. Had McCann's effort gone in, who knows?

Afterwards Liam Bradley took the positives from the game.
"We don't like losing and it didn't look a 5 point game. If one of our goal chances had gone in, it could have been different but our lads will learn from that."

Next up for Antrim is the final Power NI McKenna Cup game V Queens on Wednesday night, before the national league starts on Saturday 4th February.

Brendan Mulgrew

Mulgrew must have been at a different game than the one I was at.  Pure f**king crap.  We will still be talking about the same fundamental issues this time next year and we will not have moved any further on.  You can talk about big, strong lads, strength and conditioning all you want, it will take a lot more than that in my book.  That idiot Bradley is a real bufoon.  Put it like this, if he is not good enough as the Messiah in Derry, he's not any good for us.

The Fermanagh game was played in Enniskillen, not Casement.
I stand corrected AQMP, apologies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 16, 2012, 11:37:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 16, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
BS key hopes from the league for me would be to stay up and to blood some new talent. There are areas we are weak in. Scoring forwards - though Magill should help and I'd like to see more of Mark Dougan come championship time - marking defenders and half forwards being the key areas for me we need to develop.

Armagh were minor champions about 3 years ago were they not? Easy enough for them if I recall correctly so maybe not too bad a result.

We got beat.

We shouldnt accept ANY type of defeat to anyone ever

Acceptance that Armagh etc will beat us has to stop or the status quo will never change
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 17, 2012, 09:35:26 AM
CJ McGourty will be out for 8 - 10 weeks.  Might be back for the end of the league.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/16574587.stm

I note he was planning this year's football around the Sigerson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 17, 2012, 09:39:56 AM
Aindreas Mac An Bhaird talks about his role with the county footballers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/16574593.stm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2012, 10:27:12 AM
Ward comes across as a true pro which is the first time in a while we have used professional services in the area of physiology. He captained a team which won the European Cup in Rugby, so lots of street cred and leadership there too.

Paul Mc Flynn should bring a steely championship edge too. All his club and county football was geared around the championship - league was something for playing in- championships were for winning!

Lots of positives, and a lot of quality players completing for places now. Competition as is is, and Niblock, Andy, et al still to come in. Plan for a big summer and it might just happen. Plan for a big league and we might as well forget about a Antrim footballers playing past June or July!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 17, 2012, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: Gold on January 16, 2012, 11:37:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 16, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
BS key hopes from the league for me would be to stay up and to blood some new talent. There are areas we are weak in. Scoring forwards - though Magill should help and I'd like to see more of Mark Dougan come championship time - marking defenders and half forwards being the key areas for me we need to develop.

Armagh were minor champions about 3 years ago were they not? Easy enough for them if I recall correctly so maybe not too bad a result.

We got beat.

We shouldnt accept ANY type of defeat to anyone ever

Acceptance that Armagh etc will beat us has to stop or the status quo will never change

In years gone by we would have been beat by Armagh by 15 points and up. This is the best crop of talent i have seen at this age since butcher, m johnston, maccers team in 89. This hopefully shows that we are narrowing the gap that has existed between us and other Ulster counties and i know Russ hasnt really even settled on the final panel yet so all looks good for this age group.
Bannside, great to see such optimism on here. We in Antrim tend to be too negative towards our county teams and management. Baker is doing all you can ask at the moment. He has replaced his backroom after things seemed to go stale last year, and is giving lots of players the opportunity to prove they are county standard , so i dont think you can ask much more at this stage of the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 17, 2012, 01:40:53 PM
Revenue to swoop on GAA

County boards on alert as team expenses and payments come under scrutiny

Friday January 13 2012

GAA officials throughout the country have been alerted to an impending Revenue swoop on their books and have been warned to have them in order.

Revenue's visits are expected to include examinations of the increasingly huge sums that counties are paying out on inter-county team expenses and are also likely to probe payments to team managers.

Under the GAA's rules, the only payments that team managers can receive are vouched expenses for travel (at a set rate nationally) and meals.

But there is a strong belief within the association that this rule is being broken both at club and inter-county level and GAA president Christy Cooney himself has described 'illegal payments' to managers as "a cancer running through our organisation."

A meeting of all county chairmen in Croke Park before Christmas informed them that the Revenue Commissioners have already met with the GAA centrally and discussed what will be involved.

All county boards have been told to expect to have their local books audited in 2012.

Croke Park has promised that members of the GAA's central finance committee will visit each county in the coming weeks in order to advise exactly what Revenue's audit will entail and to give local organisers practical advice in preparing for their inspections.

The Irish Independent has also learned that at least one county board -- Limerick -- underwent a full audit by Revenue in 2010.

That looked at every aspect of Limerick's finances, including some queries about payments to inter-county managements.

The latter is believed to have been sparked by a complaint from a member of the public.But Limerick secretary Michael O'Riordan said yesterday that the County Board had contacted Revenue independently to seek clarification on some of their own tax liabilities, including those of people who had been employed to run the stiles at the county grounds.

"We approached Revenue with our own queries because we were putting some new procedures in place that we needed clarification on. They also approached us about another matter," said O'Riordan.

"We had absolutely no problems with the process. It took three days, was very thorough and afterwards we were fully approved by Revenue and there were no grey areas whatsoever."

With government coffers so bare, Revenue has been exploring every last avenue to recoup outstanding taxes. It has introduced a particularly strict 'shadow-economy project' in the past year and has come under fire in the past week for the way it went about recovering taxes from pensioners.

Meanwhile, the GAA's top brass seem certain to veto the idea of an All-Ireland senior hurling semi-final being staged at Semple Stadium this year.

Thurles Town Council is preparing to write to the Munster Council and GAA authorities, seeking to have the provincial decider and an All-Ireland semi-final staged in Thurles to coincide with the town being the European Town of Sport for 2012.

- Cliona Foley

If this is extended to the North with HMRC involved some Treasurers may be sweating.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 17, 2012, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 17, 2012, 01:40:53 PM
Revenue to swoop on GAA

County boards on alert as team expenses and payments come under scrutiny

Friday January 13 2012

GAA officials throughout the country have been alerted to an impending Revenue swoop on their books and have been warned to have them in order.

Revenue's visits are expected to include examinations of the increasingly huge sums that counties are paying out on inter-county team expenses and are also likely to probe payments to team managers.

Under the GAA's rules, the only payments that team managers can receive are vouched expenses for travel (at a set rate nationally) and meals.

But there is a strong belief within the association that this rule is being broken both at club and inter-county level and GAA president Christy Cooney himself has described 'illegal payments' to managers as "a cancer running through our organisation."

A meeting of all county chairmen in Croke Park before Christmas informed them that the Revenue Commissioners have already met with the GAA centrally and discussed what will be involved.

All county boards have been told to expect to have their local books audited in 2012.

Croke Park has promised that members of the GAA's central finance committee will visit each county in the coming weeks in order to advise exactly what Revenue's audit will entail and to give local organisers practical advice in preparing for their inspections.

The Irish Independent has also learned that at least one county board -- Limerick -- underwent a full audit by Revenue in 2010.

That looked at every aspect of Limerick's finances, including some queries about payments to inter-county managements.

The latter is believed to have been sparked by a complaint from a member of the public.But Limerick secretary Michael O'Riordan said yesterday that the County Board had contacted Revenue independently to seek clarification on some of their own tax liabilities, including those of people who had been employed to run the stiles at the county grounds.

"We approached Revenue with our own queries because we were putting some new procedures in place that we needed clarification on. They also approached us about another matter," said O'Riordan.

"We had absolutely no problems with the process. It took three days, was very thorough and afterwards we were fully approved by Revenue and there were no grey areas whatsoever."

With government coffers so bare, Revenue has been exploring every last avenue to recoup outstanding taxes. It has introduced a particularly strict 'shadow-economy project' in the past year and has come under fire in the past week for the way it went about recovering taxes from pensioners.

Meanwhile, the GAA's top brass seem certain to veto the idea of an All-Ireland senior hurling semi-final being staged at Semple Stadium this year.

Thurles Town Council is preparing to write to the Munster Council and GAA authorities, seeking to have the provincial decider and an All-Ireland semi-final staged in Thurles to coincide with the town being the European Town of Sport for 2012.

- Cliona Foley

If this is extended to the North with HMRC involved some Treasurers may be sweating.
Sure if Rasharkin pay their big fine, at least that would lessen the financial burden to the county ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Rasharkin Gael - agree with you that this is a good crop of under 21s and the 89 team was well above average too. Think Timmy Connolly was also on that team.

Regards the best in recent years - surely that mantle belonged to the team of 2005. Beat Armagh in a pre season by 12 points in Lurgan, beat Fermanagh by 12 in the first round of Ulster, and lost by two 0-13 to 0-11 in Omagh when we were without Crozier and CJ who had both played in the first round.

I maintain we would have beaten Tyrone comfortably with a full team. Tyrone won Ulster and lost to winners Mayo by a point in extra time. This won was lost by the administration of the day, but I have aired that several times before, and sure, so what. It was just an all -ireland! No one listened back then - the admin had no idea of the quality coming through at that time.

Back to Armagh though. We lost to them in Crossmaglen by 3 points in 2004, without Paul Doherty, Michael Magill and Stephen O Connell. After that Armagh went the whole way.

I will contend that those two year groups, Mick, Paddy C, Niblock, Locky, Andy, Tomas, not to mention Aidso, CJ, Crozier, were actually our best group since the 69 team that won.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 17, 2012, 07:35:52 PM
Bann side, do you remember who the coach was of the 2005 u21 team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2012, 08:25:05 PM
RG, I could tell you EVERYTHING about that particular team. I could tell you that in their first three challenge matches, against Antrim seniors, St Galls in training for AI semi versus Nemo, and Derry (up at the Loup) they were still undefeated.

I could tell you David Mc Alernon (class talent too) scored eleven points the following week against Armagh in a challenge in Lurgan, and after that beat Down at UUJ on a Saturday morning, beat Meath in Trim, lost to Laois the next day in Portlaoise, and were well pitched for their twelve point championship victory against Fermanagh in Casement.

CJ and Crozier played that day, but had an Ulster minor league game on the day of the next round, and dont start me on the Shannigans that followed, but they werent released to play for the under 21`s. Its an old sore with me and its been well documented on here before.

Twas the one that got away. If theres anything else you need to know about that era, or team, I will get my coaching diary out and let you know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 17, 2012, 09:29:39 PM
no idea firehill, troubles me to remember who scored last week!
bannside, thought i was on the right track! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2012, 09:52:26 PM
No secrets there RG. The best of days - the worst of days!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2012, 11:00:00 PM
BS how many of that team have made it to senior? (No agenda to question, just curious as I don't know)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 17, 2012, 11:09:17 PM
A Minor league game--awful decision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 08:57:28 AM
David McAlernon? Where did he go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 18, 2012, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 17, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Rasharkin Gael - agree with you that this is a good crop of under 21s and the 89 team was well above average too. Think Timmy Connolly was also on that team.

Regards the best in recent years - surely that mantle belonged to the team of 2005. Beat Armagh in a pre season by 12 points in Lurgan, beat Fermanagh by 12 in the first round of Ulster, and lost by two 0-13 to 0-11 in Omagh when we were without Crozier and CJ who had both played in the first round.

I maintain we would have beaten Tyrone comfortably with a full team. Tyrone won Ulster and lost to winners Mayo by a point in extra time. This won was lost by the administration of the day, but I have aired that several times before, and sure, so what. It was just an all -ireland! No one listened back then - the admin had no idea of the quality coming through at that time.

Back to Armagh though. We lost to them in Crossmaglen by 3 points in 2004, without Paul Doherty, Michael Magill and Stephen O Connell. After that Armagh went the whole way.

I will contend that those two year groups, Mick, Paddy C, Niblock, Locky, Andy, Tomas, not to mention Aidso, CJ, Crozier, were actually our best group since the 69 team that won.

Was that Locky McCurdy, i assumed he would have been overage !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 18, 2012, 10:16:05 AM
Thats James Loughrey Hoof!

Davy Mc Alernon a class act - as good the whole way from u-15 to u-21 as the other leading lights of his 1985 year - Mick, Andy, Paddy Hands, Niblock etc. Other notable players in that year were Gribbeys, Paddy Carey, and a good keeper in Stephen Harbinson.

As far as I know Davy went to the merchant navy or something, or worked in a cruise ship somewhere. He was a huge miss too I thought.

This team in their Buncrana Cup year beat Down, Monaghan, Armagh to win our group, and beat Raymond Munroes Tyrone by 11 points in Lurgan in the semi final. We lost Gribbeys and a class corner back from Davitts, Holy trinity boxer Martin Tully for the final against Derry.

He would have been lining Derry corner forward Declan Bateson, who scored two goals for Derry in the first five minutes. After that we held our own. Most of that Derry team won the All Ireland minor the following year.

The year group above ITG (1984) included Aidso, Paul Doc, Micko, Stephen Mc Veigh and Mark Dougan.

The year behind coughed up James Loughrey and Declan O Hagan.

Apologise if I left anyone out - there were lots of others who got run outs for the county at different stages too, and other very promising playersho didnt follow up - but the ones listed would be the answer to ITG`s question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on January 18, 2012, 10:48:37 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 08:57:28 AM
David McAlernon? Where did he go?

Working in construction overseas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 18, 2012, 11:19:05 AM
Antrim team to play Queen's tonight.  I notice Michael Magill's name has been absent from the last two panels.

1  WILLIE MC SORLEY

2  PATRICK GALLAGHER
3  MARTY JOHNSTON
4  RYAN DALY

5  PATRICK MC BRIDE
6  ANTO HEALY
7  MARK MC ALEESE

8  CONAL KELLY
9  SIMON MC DONAGH

10 CONOR MURRAY
11 KEVIN MARRON
12 JAMES LOUGHERY

13 BRIAN NEESON
14 TOMAS MC CANN
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM

16 CHRIS KERR
17 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG
18 SEAN FINCH
19 JUSTIN CROZIER
20 AODHAN GALLAGHER
21 MARK DOUGAN
22 COLM DUFFIN
23 RICKY JOHNSTON
24 DEAGHLAN O HAGAN
25 TONY SCULLION
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2012, 11:46:39 AM
Cheers BS. Paul Doc seems to have gone off the radar for some reason.

I saw McAlernon play about 3 years ago in the league. He didn't look half fit but shaped well.

Really hope Magill is still in the panel as I think we need him for the FF line :-\ Good to see some experimentation though.

On another note I see we got something like 3 college all stars which is positive,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 18, 2012, 12:33:40 PM
100% right about Magill ITG. Noticable that his name is not on the panel.

Was one of our better performers against Fermanagh, and was then taken off, noticably unimpressed! Hope this can get sorted as he provides some class and strength in a traditionally lightweight forward line not renowned for winning dirty ball. Especially with Niblock missing.He has been a "bit" player during Bakers tenure, and I`m not sure where the fault lies - but he might need to be taken another way, as a coach I mean. He would definitely be on my hypothetical team!

Personally I was really looking forward to seeing him and Mark Dougan on the same forward line, at the same time. Good mates off the pitch - I think there would be a dividend there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2012, 04:30:56 PM
Yeah I think Dougan should be a starter too. Not sure why he didn't make the team against donegal last year but him and Magill add a bit of strength in there which is badly lacking. Magill seems to be in and out of panels. Really hope nothing has happened behind the scenes with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
That must be the lightest full forward line in inter-county football! I thought Baker talked about Antrim being more physical this season, dont understand why he has to line those three out at the same time. By Paul Doc, did u mean PD from my own club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 18, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Yes RG. He was another great prospect too. Definitely good enough for the current squad too. Whats up with him?

The year we went fairly close to Armagh (2004) PD broke a toe or something like that in a friendly for Rasharkin against Claudy or Criagbane the Sunday before if I remember. He was a bad miss for us that day too. Antrim were 3 down with six or seven to go, and panicked, and went for goals. Looking back after the match, if we had gone for the simple points instead, we could have sneaked a draw.

That onlys only worth considering in the light we had four (include Karl Stewart in the list of unavailable that day) big players missing, the match was in Crossmaglen, and they went on to win the thing! Sometimes we were a bit better than the general public realised at the time. None of those teams were ever too far away.

To be honest I was full of optimism for our future, but a lot of those players are in their prime now, and the next couple of years is shit or bust for them. I was expecting more of this generation to tell you the truth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Antrim 2-12 qub 1-14 , good win to finish McKenna cup. Neeson had good game, scored 1-4 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
I thought pd was fantastic for the club last year. Don't know why he's not in current squad, I was surprised he wasn't. Will ask him the craic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2012, 09:51:54 PM
I always wondered why Johnny McAleese never made it for the county RG on the subject of Rasharkin boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on January 18, 2012, 10:23:11 PM
davy mc alernon went nd worked in the bahama's for a while after minors but came back within a year or 18 months i think. magills working out of the country, dont think there is anything to it, hope there is not like the rest of youse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 19, 2012, 09:09:33 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Antrim 2-12 qub 1-14 , good win to finish McKenna cup. Neeson had good game, scored 1-4 I think.

Family contacts back in Belfast speak highly of this boy...a bit of a prospect?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 19, 2012, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: AQMP on January 19, 2012, 09:09:33 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Antrim 2-12 qub 1-14 , good win to finish McKenna cup. Neeson had good game, scored 1-4 I think.

Family contacts back in Belfast speak highly of this boy...a bit of a prospect?

First time i have seen him play and he certainly  impressed. Kerr was excellent in goal, better all lround keeper than mcs. Most important aspect was the number of scores from play, a failure of antrim teams for years, but early days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 19, 2012, 08:47:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 17, 2012, 08:25:05 PM
CJ ....had an Ulster minor league game on the day of the next round,

Your recollection seems at odds with this chap.

Quote from: johnjoe on August 16, 2007, 11:24:07 AM
Cj wasnt playing minor, read my post, he was playing for his school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
SS2 - you are 100% correct. Crozier had the minor game, and the "authorities" deemed he should stick to his year group - despite having played in the U-21 victory against Fermanagh two weeks earlier.

CJ played an All Ireland B colleges semi final for La Salle the same day. Scored something awesome like 4-12 or something in a non event. Won by about 30 points, in Dundalk if I recall.

Our game was at 3.30 in Omagh - so logistically it should have been possible for CJ to play both - or until he knew La Salle were safe which would have been after about 10 minutes.

Antrim agreed to Tyrones request to bring the game forward to 1.30 pm - a ludicrous decision at the best of times. This decision effectly ruled CJ out. In the form he was in at the time he would have made a big difference to our U-21s - we really needed a finisher in that position.

Both decisions cost us the Ulster that year, with a team that I believe would have gone the whole way. Its history now - and we will never know the answer. But that was an awesome squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Antrim 2-12 qub 1-14 , good win to finish McKenna cup. Neeson had good game, scored 1-4 I think.

If this is how we look being successful, I would hate to see our future failures, god help us all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on January 22, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
Rasharkin Gael

I bet your one of the posse sitting down in the club rooms slandering every other member how like the posse has the balls to stand up to the CCC, UC got it right and Croke laughed at it, you know and I know there's people Rasharkin have been trying to banish from the clubs for a long time and im not talking about trouble makers, I know of six lads the club pushed away because they stood up to what was going on and the six of them could play on any team in Antrim. The club is as they say "rotten to the core" always has been and always will be. I for one know of alot of young lads who wont put the blue and yellow on again the reason being should they stand up for themselves in anyway know they club will turn its back on them.

And as for the AGM why would the I go to it as I wouldnt fit the bill. In the case of Rasharkin its not who you know but more who you are and if your title isnt right your not the person for the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 22, 2012, 04:54:46 PM
Our best performers against tyrone and queens were neeson, kelly, kerr, martin johnston,neeson. Tomas mc cann looks dangerous with his pace. we have gerard o boyle, kevin o boyle, brady(st galls), mc lean, burke, Mc gourtys, mick mc cann all to come back into the side. Paul doherty is definatley worth a place on the squad. Hope we can build on wednesday night and get ready for sligo in two weeks time. Is it the saturday night on the sunday afternoon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 22, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Enough on January 22, 2012, 04:20:25 PMAnd as for the AGM why would the I go to it as I wouldnt fit the bill. In the case of Rasharkin its not who you know but more who you are and if your title isnt right your not the person for the club.

I'll translate for you: I wouldn't have the balls to stand up at AGM like a man and sort out my clubs internal problems.  I'd rather come on the gaaboard and hang my clubs dirty washing out in public.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 22, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: Enough on January 22, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
I bet your one of the posse sitting down in the club rooms slandering every other member how like the posse has the balls to stand up to the CCC, UC got it right and Croke laughed at it, you know and I know there's people Rasharkin have been trying to banish from the clubs for a long time and im not talking about trouble makers, I know of six lads the club pushed away because they stood up to what was going on and the six of them could play on any team in Antrim. The club is as they say "rotten to the core" always has been and always will be. I for one know of alot of young lads who wont put the blue and yellow on again the reason being should they stand up for themselves in anyway know they club will turn its back on them.

I have read, re-read and then re-read the above. I am still at a loss as to what it could possibly mean.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 22, 2012, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 22, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Enough on January 22, 2012, 04:20:25 PMAnd as for the AGM why would the I go to it as I wouldnt fit the bill. In the case of Rasharkin its not who you know but more who you are and if your title isnt right your not the person for the club.

I'll translate for you: I wouldn't have the balls to stand up at AGM like a man and sort out my clubs internal problems.  I'd rather come on the gaaboard and hang my clubs dirty washing out in public.
Fair play to you 4Father , I admire your integrity and honesty, a real pity a few others who post here are not anywhere near as forthright as you. Nudge, nudge, wink wink if you know what and who I mean? :-X ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 22, 2012, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 22, 2012, 10:12:41 PM
Nudge, nudge, wink wink if you know what and who I mean? :-X ;)

No I don't actually, nor do I care. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Enough on January 23, 2012, 07:13:06 PM
4Father if you knew anything at all about Rasharkin club you might understand what I am talking about. But you dont. And I have done more for the club than many of the Kingpins who are only seen when theres a camera and silverwear. And yes I will hang the dirty washing out! Why attend and AGM full of two face spikes?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 23, 2012, 08:30:22 PM
Looks like you beginning to piss off other people on the site 4father, as I suggested previously the stoop down low party would embrace people such as yourself ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 23, 2012, 09:49:46 PM
Thought you might have been banned... again.  How many profiles have you had?

Enough, AGM is the only time and place where you can have your say.  But given that you re such an esteemed member, you'd lready know that.  Not very honourable coming on here and doing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Keane on January 25, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
Where would you guys rate yourselves in Ulster at the end of the preseason comps and heading into the league?

Any players stand out as vitally important?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 25, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Keane on January 25, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
Where would you guys rate yourselves in Ulster at the end of the preseason comps and heading into the league?

Any players stand out as vitally important?

I think we're maybe 7th above Cavan and Fermanagh, even though Fermanagh beat us in the McKenna cup I think with a full team we would have enough to handle them. I think we're capable (and with a bit of luck) of beating most of the teams in Ulster on our day and I think we are more than capable of getting out of Division 3.

Any vital players? At this stage no, as we haven't really played with a settled team yet, although it's great to have Loughery back and a few of the new players seem to be decent enough

Why the interest in Antrim? I don't think we would worry Kerry too much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Keane on January 25, 2012, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on January 25, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
I think we're maybe 7th above Cavan and Fermanagh, even though Fermanagh beat us in the McKenna cup I think with a full team we would have enough to handle them. I think we're capable (and with a bit of luck) of beating most of the teams in Ulster on our day and I think we are more than capable of getting out of Division 3.

Any vital players? At this stage no, as we haven't really played with a settled team yet, although it's great to have Loughery back and a few of the new players seem to be decent enough

Why the interest in Antrim? I don't think we would worry Kerry too much

Interested in everyone tbh!

Antrim would be one of the teams I'd know least about, have found it next to impossible to find any footage of them playing and stuff even compared to a lot of other teams so they're like a mystery to me :p

Only stumbled across gaaboard yesterday and just noticed the county fora now so said I'd wander in here to see if I could learn something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 25, 2012, 04:26:37 PM
Antrim have been a mystery to me for years :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 25, 2012, 06:59:41 PM
Antrim are planning on Sam this year --the Centenary of our last Final appearance

#saffronarmy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 25, 2012, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 25, 2012, 06:59:41 PM
Antrim are planning on Sam this year --the Centenary of our last Final appearance

#saffronarmy

Honestly, I'd be surprised if we didn't win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2012, 08:50:10 PM
Hi Keane from Kerry,

Stayed on your campsite a few years down at the festival. Brings back a few memories! Is Willem Kirby still playing at this stage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Keane on January 26, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2012, 08:50:10 PM
Hi Keane from Kerry,

Stayed on your campsite a few years down at the festival. Brings back a few memories! Is Willem Kirby still playing at this stage?

You mean the Kerins O'Rahillys' campsite? Those were the days! That's all done away with now, the festival in Tralee doesn't get the numbers anymore. I'd say there were a few good old stories from that little tent village somehow!

William Kirby is still playing for the club (Austin Stacks) alright. They got as far as the County Final last year before losing out to Crokes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on January 27, 2012, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: Keane on January 25, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
Where would you guys rate yourselves in Ulster at the end of the preseason comps and heading into the league?

Any players stand out as vitally important?

Giving this a go myself Keane, for a while anyway.

I disagree slightly with magicsponge, I put us at 8. Fermanagh are in the exact same position we were 3 years ago with a new manager to impress etc. and I reckon they will surprise a lot of people this summer. Yet the gap between 9 and 1 has shortened and I reckon that we can still mix it with anyone in Ulster. Not to exaggerate, I believe that when it comes to it we simply don't have the fire power to compete at the top level. I'll add to that in saying that I think we have some fantastic players who either cannot or will not line out for the county at present. With them back this summer anything is possible – just maybe nothing as radical as Gold has suggested. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 28, 2012, 09:51:06 AM
Saturday, January 28, 2012 Irish Examiner



Matthews keen to achieve ref justice

By John Fogarty

Saturday, January 28, 2012

Assaulted former GAA referee Ray Matthews has agreed to become the interim president of the Gaelic Match Officials Association (GMOA).

The Antrim ex-official, who quit refereeing after the Ulster Council reduced punishments handed out to St Mary's Rasharkin arising from an U21 game he officiated in last October, will work alongside interim secretary, Tipperary man Alan Nash who has founded the organisation.

The GMOA, which states it will be non-profit, aims to seek greater protection for match officials, review referees' match fees and mileage as well as giving them a voice at Congress.

Matthews is primarily interested in the referees being defended.

"Until we get the whole thing organised and properly set up with democratic elections, I will be holding the position," confirmed Matthews.

"An organisation like this is something we have been crying out for because of the politics of the referring world and the fear factor of not getting good matches if they complain about what has happened to them. They are hesitant to come forward. It's not like the GPA because we're about representing all referees especially club referees."

Matthews appreciates his ordeal will bring attention to his new role and the organisation but has already experienced some opposition to his decision to help spearhead it.

"My profile is not the main reason. I fully endorse and believe in this. Because of what happened my face is out there. That's the hand I've been dealt. But it's strange. I know of a referees coordinator who asked hurling referees had they heard about the association and said, 'Jesus, do you not think they could have picked a higher profile referee'.

"Already, they're trying to rubbish it and put it down without knowing the benefits that could be coming to referees."

Matthews earlier this week threw away his refereeing gear with a heavy heart. He believes he may have to rule out any possible return to officiating because his stance may offend GAA officials. However he is willing to take the risk.

"In my eyes, referees are being let down a lot," he said before addressing his own trauma. "There wasn't a more apt time or easier opportunity for the GAA to stop events like what happened to me occurring again and protect referees.

"Instead, they washed their hands of it."

Croke Park recently asked the Ulster Council to review the St Mary's appeal case which saw the council quash the number of suspensions handed down to the club by the Antrim County Board.

They reverted the case on the grounds that some evidence was not taken into consideration, although it's understood not to be enough to change their decision.

The Antrim County Board had imposed bans on the club from all competitions above and not including minor grade but the decision was overruled by the Ulster Council.

While they remain suspended from the U21 championship, because of the club's successful appeal they are now permitted to play in senior league and championship competitions.

"Seemingly, the man who put all the evidence together isn't allowed to give evidence, which is stupid," said Matthews. "Joe Edwards, chairman of the Antrim CCCC, did an excellent job in collecting all the evidence.

"The bugbears Croke Park have with the case are related to the processes but not to the actual incident. That is a failing of our association.

"Everyone seems to be getting an appeal but the one person who isn't asked if they disagree with a decision is the referee which again is a failing."

Four St Mary's members were expelled from the GAA for their behaviour in the U21 game against Lamh Dearg in Ballymena after which Matthews was hospitalised.

Ten people in all received various bans. However, the Glenavy man believes more should have been suspended.

"A neutral witness said he couldn't see me from the amount of people trying to kick me."

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/matthews-keen-to-achieve-ref-justice-181787.html#ixzz1kkF1przA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 28, 2012, 10:44:27 AM
Why did u post this twice?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 28, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
 ??? Jesus you really do need help 4father!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 28, 2012, 05:02:32 PM
U21 Shamrock Cup - Monaghan 0-12 Antrim 0-10 in Clones
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on January 29, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 28, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
??? Jesus you really do need help 4father!

Sorry, just annoys me when people do that. Im getting old and grumpy.
Seen that Glenariffe are in the IHC in the hurling. Who might be favourites for the intermediate football title? No point at all in discussing the Senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 30, 2012, 09:55:50 AM
Would have thought Portglenone strong contenders for IFC . What's the situation with All Saints? Having won it last season are they automatically up to Senior Championship even though they are still in Div2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on January 30, 2012, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 30, 2012, 09:55:50 AM
Would have thought Portglenone strong contenders for IFC . What's the situation with All Saints? Having won it last season are they automatically up to Senior Championship even though they are still in Div2?

I don't think they automatically go up, they can choose to stay Intermediate if they want, much like O'Donnells stayed in the Junior and won it 2 years in a row. Even if they got promoted they could play Intermediate, I think Moneyglass, Glenavy and Aghagallon played Intermediate while in Div 1, and none of them won it. I would like to see them give the Senior championship a go and likewise I really hope O'Donnells play Intermediate this year as they should have last year.

I would imagine Portglenone would be good enough to win the Intermediate, last year I thought St Pauls should have entered it because I think they would have won and gave Ulster a good rattle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 31, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
If you win that championship, as far as I am aware you do not have a choice. You have to play the grade above the following year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on February 01, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 31, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
If you win that championship, as far as I am aware you do not have a choice. You have to play the grade above the following year.

Oh right, I assumed that it was maybe the same as the Junior championship. I think it's better that they go up, teams should give it a go at least and see how they get on. It will give them a bit of experience at least
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 31, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
If you win that championship, as far as I am aware you do not have a choice. You have to play the grade above the following year.

Pretty sure you don't have to go up - it's a choice. It'd be the same for all championships. Did ballymena not win it before and choose not to go up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: sandwiches_in_the_boot on February 02, 2012, 12:08:21 AM
From Twitter:

Quote@thomaskane1 @bbcchampionship All Ireland club winning manager Lenny Harbinson has stepped down as St Galls boss
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on February 02, 2012, 09:22:28 AM
Thomas Kane has Twitter??? Big news alright! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 02, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Any truth to the rumours that m. magill has left randalstown for st johns?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2012, 04:24:50 PM
Big loss, any reason or was he just looking to play Div1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 02, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Think it is the lure of Division 1 - Although he did get hassle last year within the club - The manager O'kane has also left.  Again cant comment on reasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 02, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Any truth to the rumours that m. magill has left randalstown for st johns?

Why not go to a decent club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on February 02, 2012, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 02, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Any truth to the rumours that m. magill has left randalstown for st johns?

Why not go to a decent club?

Like St.Galls? Sure they don't even like their own - just ask Twitters Thomas Kane - what would make them like outsiders?

If living in Belfast a move to St. John's is probably his best bet for a 'career move'. I reckon its nothing more than a rumour but assuming it isn't I personally don't agree with it, many a good player has travelled longer distances to play lower division football. Make no doubt about it though, Magill is a very good player and would give St. John's someone to work with off Brian Neeson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on February 02, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
Speaking of St Johns, I see 2 men were charged over the fire at their club last year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16854329
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 02, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
Quote from: otbar on February 02, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Think it is the lure of Division 1 - Although he did get hassle last year within the club - The manager O'kane has also left.  Again cant comment on reasons.

Is okane away to portglenone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on February 02, 2012, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 02, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Any truth to the rumours that m. magill has left randalstown for st johns?

Why not go to a decent club?

Like St.Galls? Sure they don't even like their own - just ask Twitters Thomas Kane - what would make them like outsiders?

If living in Belfast a move to St. John's is probably his best bet for a 'career move'. I reckon its nothing more than a rumour but assuming it isn't I personally don't agree with it, many a good player has travelled longer distances to play lower division football. Make no doubt about it though, Magill is a very good player and would give St. John's someone to work with off Brian Neeson.

Did I mention Naomh Gall? Very touchy. Twitter? What ya on about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on February 02, 2012, 06:49:52 PM
MR - didn't mean to come across 'touchy' was only having a friendly dig in return to what you wrote. Who preytell are a 'decent' team, seeing as St. John's are not?

Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on February 02, 2012, 12:08:21 AM
From Twitter:

Quote@thomaskane1 @bbcchampionship All Ireland club winning manager Lenny Harbinson has stepped down as St Galls boss

Thats what I meant by the twitter comment - Thomas Kane breaking the news that Lenny had left. Your views on him 'quitting'?

In future I'll work on my writing skills so that they fully represent what I mean to say  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 07:52:06 PM



Quote from: subterranean saffron on February 02, 2012, 06:49:52 PM
MR - didn't mean to come across 'touchy' was only having a friendly dig in return to what you wrote. Who preytell are a 'decent' team, seeing as St. John's are not?

Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on February 02, 2012, 12:08:21 AM
From Twitter:

Quote@thomaskane1 @bbcchampionship All Ireland club winning manager Lenny Harbinson has stepped down as St Galls boss

Thats what I meant by the twitter comment - Thomas Kane breaking the news that Lenny had left. Your views on him 'quitting'?

In future I'll work on my writing skills so that they fully represent what I mean to say  ;)


Not exactly breaking news, he resigned the other night and give a statement to the press and it's been in the Irish News today.

Plenty of clubs have managers come ago, we are no different, I really don't think it's news worthy do you?

Nothing in the Irish News about Cushendall's new manager, or Ballycastle's new manager for that matter, very puzzling.

And yes don't jump in with two feet ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2012, 09:32:18 PM
MR2 you're one of the top teams in ulster so it's hardly that big a surprise...

It's interesting because it's hard to know who you'll get and whether they can push you further than you've gone before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2012, 09:32:18 PM
MR2 you're one of the top teams in ulster so it's hardly that big a surprise...

It's interesting because it's hard to know who you'll get and whether they can push you further than you've gone before.

We are on our way out. St Johns are the next big thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
I find it hard to believe that you really believe that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
I find it hard to believe that you really believe that...

Oh i left out the smilies  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2012, 10:09:09 PM
 ;D Sounds more plausible.

Three or four more years left in that team yet. After that though I would expect to see a changing of the guard. Who the next kingpins will be remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 10:19:06 PM
Cargin will always be good and there is no way the Johnnies will ever let hurling be the thing at their club. Other clubs aren't big enough to sustain a long run of Championships. 

We have great work going on at the minute. A lot of past, current players have kids training on sat mornings, and the quality of the young ones coming through will again bring us back to a winning Championships again I believe.

Creggan should win a championship at some point but won't have a reign, St Pauls I think won't win one in the next 20 years. South west teams to win the odd one and no real other shocks. Rossa will win a few I think also but not for a while.

That;s that sorted ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on February 02, 2012, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 01, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 31, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
If you win that championship, as far as I am aware you do not have a choice. You have to play the grade above the following year.

Pretty sure you don't have to go up - it's a choice. It'd be the same for all championships. Did ballymena not win it before and choose not to go up?

no..ballymena were soundly beaten by portglenone in the SFC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 03, 2012, 08:28:19 AM
Antrim team to play sligo

1  CHRIS KERR
2  PATRICK GALLAGHER
3  DEAGHLAN O HAGAN
4  MARK MCALEESE

5  TONY SCULLION
6  JUSTIN CROZIER
7  JAMES LOUGHERY

8  CONOR MURRAY
9  CONAL KELLY

10 TOMAS MC CANN
11 KEVIN BRADY
12 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG

13 BRIAN NEESON
14 MARK SWEENEY
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM

16 WILLY MC SORLEY

17 RYAN DALY
18 COLM DUFFIN
19 ANTO HEALEY
20 RICKY JOHNSTON
21 MARTY JOHNSTON
22 KEVIN MARRON
23 SEAN FINCH
24 PATRICK MC BRIDE
25 SIMON MC DONAGH
26 RYAN MURRAY
27. MICHAEL MAGILL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 03, 2012, 08:31:39 AM
Good enough line up for the start of the league, would have went with r johnston and m magill in the starting line up for a bit more physical presence myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 05, 2012, 09:01:23 PM
Fantastic result last night with a fantastic finish. Free 50metres out with last kick to win it by Tomas McCann

Great start for the Saffrons

Sligo men annoyed we got a free.

Ref did gave ropey enough frees for both sides but the match was not the hardest to ref and there wasnt any big flashpoint incidents-penaltys, penalty calls or sendings off. It was certainly not on the  Colm Cooper scale of give a man 6 frees for nothing cause of his name v us in Tullamore 09.

We shouldv'e been out of sight but messed about shouting from stupid angles whilst Sligo scored nearly any time they got the ball. We died for first 20 mins of 2nd half.

Tomas stood up and was a great leader. He started in FF line but no doubt serves us best out at half forward when his surging Darren O'Sullivan style runs make all the difference.

Paddy Cunningham isnt working at CHF. He cant win ball at FF so is now out at CHF. He appears to have a Stevie G/David Beckham type ego where he has to hit every free--running 20 metres back to take a free to where he was in the first place. As he's now at CHF he thinks he has to hit every ball--mostly long and too often when it's not on--he's not Greg Blaney --when a simple handpass is on he should take it. We carried him last night and cant afford to keep doing so.

Where we broke down was at half forward. James Loughrey is an outstanding half back but i feel his surging pace and power which always breaks the tackle is best served at half forward. In 2010 when we finished top of Div 3 he was our most potent attacking threat--he broke the gain line so many times, then laid it off to someone to stroke it over. In fact the holes he punched caused 90% of our goal chances in that league campaign. We'd no goal chance last night. Wont do to continue like that as the games go on.

Loughrey didnt play in the League last year and we went out with a whimper--he's that important.

Scullion played at corner back and was great. Antrim teams are never known to hit other teams or stop players in their tracks but Tony doesnt read the script. He loves hitting hard/borderline fair and i think its class.

Sligo didnt look too hot last night. They were rudderless up front for most of first half but relaxed a bit in the second half and improved. O'Hara and TT were a miss around the middle for them as was David Kelly (thank God he wasnt flying about up front).

Brady for us looked to me that he was going to get the hook till he won a ball and then followed that with a lobbed point. Thought Magill if fit shouldve been on.

Neeson scores some great points but shoots from crazy angles all too often. Also he hid in behind for 1st 25 mins of 2nd half and never touched leather during that time--not good enough going forward--he'll need to get out and win ball or have help in there to win ball. Numerous times we had ball going up left/stand side in 2nd half and the 2/3 full forwards ran away to far/top right corner in behind their men. The only ball playable to them then was a diagonal ball --but those 3 certainly arn't Ronan, Stevie and Diarmuid so that wasnt gonna work. They have to be brave, stronger and come out in front and get the ball--no primary school balls over the top at this level.

Tomas showed some guts though. Some pressure but stroked it over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 07, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
I see St Galls advertising in Irish Snooze for a manager! Thought they were under financial pressure, must not be, with the costs of running those ads and by doing so they are hinting at paying travelling expenses ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 07, 2012, 01:59:27 PM
No one any thought on the Sligo game?

No 'fans' at it?

Where is Hardstion these days>?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 07, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Could`nt make it on Saturday night, our club had a function/fundraiser on. Great result just the start we needed. Also good to see Kevin Brady getting gametime. Some stalwart over the years.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2012, 03:34:13 PM
Tullyglass must have made some money off the GAA over the years for all these functions!
Must be some other way for clubs to do these without giving them the lions share of the takings ie the bar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 10, 2012, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 07, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Could`nt make it on Saturday night, our club had a function/fundraiser on. Great result just the start we needed. Also good to see Kevin Brady getting gametime. Some stalwart over the years.

You fought a good fight on the night Bannside,but those gloves a bit on the big side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 10, 2012, 11:58:43 AM
The Antrim team to play Tipperary this Sunday is,

1  CHRIS KERR (St Gall's)

2  PATRICK GALLAGHER (Glenavy)
3  DEAGHLAN O HAGAN (St Brigid's)
4  MARK MC ALEESE (Portglenone)

5  TONY SCULLION (Cargin)
6  JUSTIN CROZIER (Cargin)
7  JAMES LOUGHERY (St Brigid's)

8  MICHAEL MC CANN (Cargin)
9  CONAL KELLY (St John's)

10 TOMAS MC CANN (Cargin)
11 KEVIN BRADY (Moneyglass)
12 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG (O' Donovan Rossa)

13 BRIAN NEESON (St John's)
14 MARK SWEENEY (St Brigid's)
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM (Lamh Dhearg)

16 WILLY MC SORLEY (St Brigid's)
17 RYAN DALY (St Brigid's)
18 COLM DUFFIN (Moneyglass)
19 ANTO HEALEY (St Gall's)
20 RICKY JOHNSTON (Creggan)
21 MARTY JOHNSTON (Creggan)
22 KEVIN MARRON (Moneyglass)
23 SEAN FINCH (O'Donovan Rossa)
24 AODHAN GALLAGHER (St Gall's)
25 SIMON MC DONAGH (St John's)
26 RYAN MURRAY (Lamh Dhearg)
27. MICHAEL MAGILL (Randalstown)
28. KEVIN O BOYLE (Cargin)
29.PATRICK MC BRIDE (St John's)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Still experimenting I see  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2012, 03:28:03 PM
Not a bad looking team. Every player on that side would have genuine enough claims to a first 15 jersey, or gametime at least.

Gallsmen will look at it and see only one of theirs on the teamsheet and say its experimental. Amongst their missing players who are the "must haves" except for Niblock.

Everyone knows what Aidso, Brady, Andy, CJ et al can be relied on to contribute, but in ths case, at this time of year we need to build a genuine squad ethos and squad morale. On the long run will keep competition keen for jerseys.

On another note, whats the crack with Mark Dougan? Its only one opinion, but surely he would sit a lot higher up the rankings than one or two of the names on the panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on February 10, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
Bannside - The "must haves", for me anyway, are Brady and Gallagher. Not that they are exceptionally gifted compared to the others but more beneficial to the team due to the bigger gulf between them and their counterparts.

When St. Gall's won the AI Club in 2010, most players came back into a winning Antrim team and for my money they had a negative effect on team morale (see results before and after). This year several quality players will, in all likelihood, come back into the fold – do they come straight back in? There is a subtle difference between keeping competition keen and stringing boys along, let's hope Baker gets the mix right this time around.

Dougan albeit a good player has done nothing in county football to suggest he should be any higher on the pecking order than anyone else. I don't mean that to sound harsh, I'd love to see him fulfill his potential – just don't think he deserves anymore chances than the likes of Mark Sweeny, Brian Neeson, Kevin Marron etc.

HUGE game this weekend - hope the boys put in another gutsy preformance. Aontroim Abu!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on February 10, 2012, 06:23:34 PM
weak numbers two and four. think there are better players than these two
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 10, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 07, 2012, 01:59:27 PM
No one any thought on the Sligo game?

No 'fans' at it?

Where is Hardstion these days>?
Was on holiday. Got text updates though. Good win. We're not fancied at all in this division. Anyone know why? We should beat most of them, no?

Fck me you had me worried about ya. I must've been goin mental!

Was stuck for debate on football with people who actually attend games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 12, 2012, 12:03:00 AM
Agree with all of the points below re Loughrey, Scullion, Tomas but especially Cunningham. Grabs every free no matter where (one specific one on right sideline with Tomas beside him) and slows up play.
I am not sure he can be carried for his frees any more. We need all players capable of and wanting to put in a tackle.

Fair point re Neeson's shooting but he has a great left boot, fights for the ball and hopefully his shot selection improves.

If Magill is fit get that man back in there straight away.

Quote from: Gold on February 05, 2012, 09:01:23 PM
Fantastic result last night with a fantastic finish. Free 50metres out with last kick to win it by Tomas McCann

Great start for the Saffrons

Sligo men annoyed we got a free.

Ref did gave ropey enough frees for both sides but the match was not the hardest to ref and there wasnt any big flashpoint incidents-penaltys, penalty calls or sendings off. It was certainly not on the  Colm Cooper scale of give a man 6 frees for nothing cause of his name v us in Tullamore 09.

We shouldv'e been out of sight but messed about shouting from stupid angles whilst Sligo scored nearly any time they got the ball. We died for first 20 mins of 2nd half.

Tomas stood up and was a great leader. He started in FF line but no doubt serves us best out at half forward when his surging Darren O'Sullivan style runs make all the difference.

Paddy Cunningham isnt working at CHF. He cant win ball at FF so is now out at CHF. He appears to have a Stevie G/David Beckham type ego where he has to hit every free--running 20 metres back to take a free to where he was in the first place. As he's now at CHF he thinks he has to hit every ball--mostly long and too often when it's not on--he's not Greg Blaney --when a simple handpass is on he should take it. We carried him last night and cant afford to keep doing so.

Where we broke down was at half forward. James Loughrey is an outstanding half back but i feel his surging pace and power which always breaks the tackle is best served at half forward. In 2010 when we finished top of Div 3 he was our most potent attacking threat--he broke the gain line so many times, then laid it off to someone to stroke it over. In fact the holes he punched caused 90% of our goal chances in that league campaign. We'd no goal chance last night. Wont do to continue like that as the games go on.

Loughrey didnt play in the League last year and we went out with a whimper--he's that important.

Scullion played at corner back and was great. Antrim teams are never known to hit other teams or stop players in their tracks but Tony doesnt read the script. He loves hitting hard/borderline fair and i think its class.

Sligo didnt look too hot last night. They were rudderless up front for most of first half but relaxed a bit in the second half and improved. O'Hara and TT were a miss around the middle for them as was David Kelly (thank God he wasnt flying about up front).

Brady for us looked to me that he was going to get the hook till he won a ball and then followed that with a lobbed point. Thought Magill if fit shouldve been on.

Neeson scores some great points but shoots from crazy angles all too often. Also he hid in behind for 1st 25 mins of 2nd half and never touched leather during that time--not good enough going forward--he'll need to get out and win ball or have help in there to win ball. Numerous times we had ball going up left/stand side in 2nd half and the 2/3 full forwards ran away to far/top right corner in behind their men. The only ball playable to them then was a diagonal ball --but those 3 certainly arn't Ronan, Stevie and Diarmuid so that wasnt gonna work. They have to be brave, stronger and come out in front and get the ball--no primary school balls over the top at this level.

Tomas showed some guts though. Some pressure but stroked it over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 12, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
Great win

Was no surprise to see Loughrey break through for the goal

Tomas again was great from frees

Should have won by more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
Were you at it Gold?

Another good win. If we get another one or two on the bounce we'll hopefully be in the mix for promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 4father on February 13, 2012, 01:22:34 PM
Good to see Antrim back to winning ways.  We really shouldnt fear any team in this Division.  Seems to be a bit more energy in about the team.  I take it Bradley is backing Chris Kerr as GK for the year, isn't that 2 in a row which hasnt been the pattern.

Speaking of Bradleys, i met my good friend Matt Bradley who tells me he is taking Gortnamona.  He has done well with most teams he has looked after so good luck to him and to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 13, 2012, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: 4father on February 13, 2012, 01:22:34 PM
Good to see Antrim back to winning ways.  We really shouldnt fear any team in this Division.  Seems to be a bit more energy in about the team.  I take it Bradley is backing Chris Kerr as GK for the year, isn't that 2 in a row which hasnt been the pattern.

Speaking of Bradleys, i met my good friend Matt Bradley who tells me he is taking Gortnamona.  He has done well with most teams he has looked after so good luck to him and to them.

You're probably right 4father, but by the same token we aren't miles better than any team in the divison.  Fingers crossed we should be in the promotion picture but no guarantees, I think it's going to be tight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 13, 2012, 04:21:21 PM
great win yesterday, especially going in to thurles hopefully we can build on this and take two points off offlay in 3 weeks time in casement park. i hear michael mc cann was outstanding yesterday as was loughrey. i was at the game last saturday night and the mckenna cup games and have been impressed with chris kerr in goals, hes a much better keeper than mc sorley. few early subs made yesterday? ??? boys not up to it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2012, 05:05:33 PM
Another great result. Winning is a good habit to get into.

Theres a real freshness about the management and panel which is good to see. I would have had great difficulty going to the matches this year if we were going to be served up the same drivel as last year.

Hope we can keep this up - but still need to have something left in the locker for the proper end of the season, June-September.

Remember two years ago we also beat Sligo in the first league game, but they toyed with us in the league final in Croke several months later! We were on a downward spiral from April onwards. Hopefully lessons will be learned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on February 14, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
There were fellas taken off on Sunday who had been (unfairly) booked and ticked, and I assume management didn't want to lose a man. Out of 12 bookings in the match, 10 went to our players. Unbalanced refereeing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 10:38:01 AM
Stop blaming referees FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on February 15, 2012, 04:38:46 PM
I see Loughrey made the starting team for Ulster -  Good to see a player, who IMO is heavily under-valued outside the county, get some recognition. Glad he is with us. Tomas made the bench also and with the way he has been playing it would be nice to see him get a run out, will do wonders for his confidence. Great achievement for them both.

Does anyone know who the last Antrim player was to get minutes with Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 15, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on February 15, 2012, 04:38:46 PM
I see Loughrey made the starting team for Ulster -  Good to see a player, who IMO is heavily under-valued outside the county, get some recognition. Glad he is with us. Tomas made the bench also and with the way he has been playing it would be nice to see him get a run out, will do wonders for his confidence. Great achievement for them both.

Does anyone know who the last Antrim player was to get minutes with Ulster?

Last player was Brady i think, came on as sub in Enniskillen about 04 i think

Did Madden ever play?

Good luck to Loughrey and Tomas. Both outstanding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 16, 2012, 09:15:27 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on February 15, 2012, 04:38:46 PM
I see Loughrey made the starting team for Ulster -  Good to see a player, who IMO is heavily under-valued outside the county, get some recognition. Glad he is with us. Tomas made the bench also and with the way he has been playing it would be nice to see him get a run out, will do wonders for his confidence. Great achievement for them both.

Does anyone know who the last Antrim player was to get minutes with Ulster?

Last player was Brady i think, came on as sub in Enniskillen about 04 i think

Did Madden ever play?

Good luck to Loughrey and Tomas. Both outstanding

I seem to remember Madden certainly being in a couple of squads around 2000/2001??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2012, 10:41:37 AM
When was the last railway cup played?

I'm pretty sure Loughrey has been involved before. Possibly as a sub mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on February 16, 2012, 12:09:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2012, 10:41:37 AM
When was the last railway cup played?

I'm pretty sure Loughrey has been involved before. Possibly as a sub mind.

No, he hasn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
There's definitely been more recent than 04. We got to the ulster final a year it was on so bound to have been someone then. It was on in 2009. If not Loughrey then Michael McCann. I have, vague, recollections of some of those boys in and around that time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: Rossa on October 08, 2009, 12:29:05 AM
First game of the year for Ulster tonight. Team - Packie McConnell in goals, Brendan Donaghy, Justy McMahon & Gerard O'Kane in full back line. Aaron Kernan, Ciaran McKeever & Davy Harte at half back, Hub Hughes & Mick McCann in midfield, Enda McGinley, Benny Coulter, Joe McMahon in half forwards with  Paddy Bradley, Michael Murphy & Eoin Bradley up front. Joe McMahon replaced by Danny Hughes of  Down who looked very sharp. Close enough first half with Ulster pulling away in last 15 minutesof second half. Kernan, Coulter & Hughes the pick of the bunch tonight. Andy Mallon played very well for Pearse Ogs

McCann involved 2009.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2012, 03:17:17 PM
Our lads have been asked but due to club commitments around that time of year we usually lose out.

Think we may have had players back in the early 80's either asked or played not sure will have to check
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 16, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
BTW:

Loughery or Loughrey ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 16, 2012, 03:31:39 PM
Another fantastic performance from Andrew McLean for UUJ in the Sigerson against NUIG. He is playing the best football of his career at the moment as full back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 17, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
Any noises coming out of St Galls yet as to new management?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 03:08:55 PM
Interviews this week. 4 in for it. no names to tell ya yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2012, 07:48:06 PM
Great to hear Andy is fit and well. Never has one player had so much injury. He has a tag as a full back, but a grand player out the field a bit too.

Mind you he must be some student at this stage - 26/27 years old at least!

Twas a mere 18 year old cub when I donned the navy/sky blue. A certain Sean Smyth was the manager then - years ahead of his time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 18, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
Sean smith was a fantastic coach, even though he could never remember any players name!! I remember him referring to everyone by their number, but when he spoke you listened, a world of gaa knowledge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 18, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
O'cahan cup kicks off on Sunday week. Very early start to the season this year, I can see a few of the first round games falling foul of the weather unless it improves this week. St endas compete in this and all the s.w. Antrim underage competitions, anyone know why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 18, 2012, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 18, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
O'cahan cup kicks off on Sunday week. Very early start to the season this year, I can see a few of the first round games falling foul of the weather unless it improves this week. St endas compete in this and all the s.w. Antrim underage competitions, anyone know why?

I'm sure Last Man can confirm, but I think the reason was that they thought they'd be better served competing in SW (football) and NA (hurling) and so pulled out of South Antrim competitions.  Hard to argue against that decision judging by the results they have acheived in both codes in the last few years at juvenile level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 18, 2012, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 18, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
O'cahan cup kicks off on Sunday week. Very early start to the season this year, I can see a few of the first round games falling foul of the weather unless it improves this week. St endas compete in this and all the s.w. Antrim underage competitions, anyone know why?

I'm sure Last Man can confirm, but I think the reason was that they thought they'd be better served competing in SW (football) and NA (hurling) and so pulled out of South Antrim competitions.  Hard to argue against that decision judging by the results they have acheived in both codes in the last few years at juvenile level.

Trying to bring that 'success' at juvenile level into senior is the the trick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2012, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 18, 2012, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 18, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
O'cahan cup kicks off on Sunday week. Very early start to the season this year, I can see a few of the first round games falling foul of the weather unless it improves this week. St endas compete in this and all the s.w. Antrim underage competitions, anyone know why?

I'm sure Last Man can confirm, but I think the reason was that they thought they'd be better served competing in SW (football) and NA (hurling) and so pulled out of South Antrim competitions.  Hard to argue against that decision judging by the results they have acheived in both codes in the last few years at juvenile level.

Trying to bring that 'success' at juvenile level into senior is the the trick.

As Loughgiel know all too well, oh right......... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
Ya need to have a steady div 1 team for these good players to play on, Loughgiel had that St Enda's don't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 19, 2012, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: aontroim on February 18, 2012, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 18, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
O'cahan cup kicks off on Sunday week. Very early start to the season this year, I can see a few of the first round games falling foul of the weather unless it improves this week. St endas compete in this and all the s.w. Antrim underage competitions, anyone know why?

I'm sure Last Man can confirm, but I think the reason was that they thought they'd be better served competing in SW (football) and NA (hurling) and so pulled out of South Antrim competitions.  Hard to argue against that decision judging by the results they have acheived in both codes in the last few years at juvenile level.

I think that was about the long & the short of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on February 23, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Yes lads we moved to leagues that were better run that included clubs who shared our idea of juvenile development at that particular time. I would say things have improved a lot in SA in the last few years but we will stay where we are.
Sadly I have to agree with Milltown in that senior success for us is going to be a slog as its a massive ask for young fellas to turn things around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 23, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 23, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Yes lads we moved to leagues that were better run that included clubs who shared our idea of juvenile development at that particular time. I would say things have improved a lot in SA in the last few years but we will stay where we are.
Sadly I have to agree with Milltown in that senior success for us is going to be a slog as its a massive ask for young fellas to turn things around.

What's the story with North Belfast fellas being soccer obsessed? Why are they so?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on February 24, 2012, 06:31:45 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 23, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 23, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Yes lads we moved to leagues that were better run that included clubs who shared our idea of juvenile development at that particular time. I would say things have improved a lot in SA in the last few years but we will stay where we are.
Sadly I have to agree with Milltown in that senior success for us is going to be a slog as its a massive ask for young fellas to turn things around.

What's the story with North Belfast fellas being soccer obsessed? Why are they so?
With the mighty Reds on your doorstep its hard to overlook the "beautiful game" ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 24, 2012, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 23, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 23, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Yes lads we moved to leagues that were better run that included clubs who shared our idea of juvenile development at that particular time. I would say things have improved a lot in SA in the last few years but we will stay where we are.
Sadly I have to agree with Milltown in that senior success for us is going to be a slog as its a massive ask for young fellas to turn things around.

What's the story with North Belfast fellas being soccer obsessed? Why are they so?

Spidermen ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
I hear an Omagh man got the Gall's job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 25, 2012, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
I hear an Omagh man got the Gall's job.

Carl McCabe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on February 25, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 24, 2012, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 23, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 23, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Yes lads we moved to leagues that were better run that included clubs who shared our idea of juvenile development at that particular time. I would say things have improved a lot in SA in the last few years but we will stay where we are.
Sadly I have to agree with Milltown in that senior success for us is going to be a slog as its a massive ask for young fellas to turn things around.

What's the story with North Belfast fellas being soccer obsessed? Why are they so?


Spidermen ;)
;D The Spides will not be so happy tonight anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
We got Lamhs in the first round ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on February 27, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
St Galls V Lamh Dhearg
Creggan V Moneglass
Ballymena V Cargin
St Brigids V St Pauls
Rossa V St Johns

Ahoghill V St Brigids/St Pauls
Rasharkin V Ballymena/Cargin

thats the draw as far as I can tell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 27, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on February 27, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
St Galls V Lamh Dhearg
Creggan V Moneglass
Ballymena V Cargin
St Brigids V St Pauls

thats the draw as far as I can tell

Quarters:
1 - Ballymena/Cargin v Rasharkin
2- Rossa V St Johns
3- St Galls/Lamh Dhearg v Creggan/Moneyglass
4- St Brigids/St Pauls v Ahoghill

Semis:
2 v 4
1 v 3

St. Galls, Cargin & Lamh Dhearg all on one side of the draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 28, 2012, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
We got Lamhs in the first round ;D

Tie of the preliminary round is Creggan v Moneyglass, that will be a real battle. Biggest chance of an upset will be Ballymena against Cargin, if McVeagh is back for championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on February 28, 2012, 11:33:15 AM
Naomh Eoin to win Senior football championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 28, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
I think lamh dhearg is a potential banana skin for st galls. The earlier you get st galls, in my view, the better chance you will have of beating them so I think that provides an interesting tie.

Ballymena are very strong in midfield but don't think they're strong enough elsewhere to compete with cargin. I'd expect cargin to win with a bit to spare. St Brigids- St Pauls is a good tie though st pauls do seem to have went downhill somewhat.

Rossa - St Johns could be interesting.

No disrspect to st galls but if they were beat early it'd make it more interesting! Dunno if that will happen mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on February 28, 2012, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on February 28, 2012, 11:33:15 AM
Naomh Eoin to win Senior football championship
:D

Is that the same Naomh Eoin as the Naomh Eoin who were talked up last year only to play like a bunch of puddin's come championship time?
More chance of a rockin' horse having a shite.

Time will tell!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimlad on February 28, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
Bit of a shame to see 3 intermediate teams dropping down into the Junior championship. Surely the county needs to look at this to stop it happening?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on February 28, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
Was the intermediate and junior draws made?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimlad on February 28, 2012, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on February 28, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
Was the intermediate and junior draws made?

Yea.

JFC - Quarters
St Agnes v Mitchels/Glenravel
St Malachys/St Comgalls V Pearses/Lisburn
Ardoyne/Davitts V McDermotts
Eire og V Ballycastle

IFC
St. Endas v Aldergrove/Portglenone
Naomh Treasa v Sarsfields

You'll get them all confirmed on here:
http://twitter.com/#!/clubaontroma
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on February 28, 2012, 12:28:02 PM
Quote from: antrimlad on February 28, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
Bit of a shame to see 3 intermediate teams dropping down into the Junior championship. Surely the county needs to look at this to stop it happening?

Glenravel to play Mitchels.... Oh dear. Mitchels didn't even score in the championship last year against Ballycastle. Looks like a few teams were looking for an easy championship win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on February 28, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
Whats story with intermediate draw? Are they just playing the prelim matches first then doing another draw? I was only able to find 2 matches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimlad on February 28, 2012, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on February 28, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
Whats story with intermediate draw? Are they just playing the prelim matches first then doing another draw? I was only able to find 2 matches

Not sure, the full draw and fixtures should be up here very soon under "Antrim Master Fixtures
" though:

http://antrimgaa.net/administration/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on February 28, 2012, 06:35:41 PM

Glenravel v Mitchells will be a massacre!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on February 28, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
Full draw is up now - http://antrimgaa.net/uploads/newsimages/2012%20Antrim%20C,ship%20draws%20pdf%20(2).pdf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog on March 01, 2012, 05:58:57 PM
glenravel should surely be in with a shout for the junior championship.  or will it be a further slide down the hill into division 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 02, 2012, 11:17:02 AM
Antrim unchanged for the Offaly match. Conor Murray and Aaron Douglas are added to the squad.

1  CHRIS KERR (St Gall's)

2  PATRICK GALLAGHER (Glenavy)
3  DEAGHLAN O HAGAN (St Brigid's)
4  MARK MC ALEESE (Portglenone)

5  TONY SCULLION (Cargin)
6  JUSTIN CROZIER (Cargin)
7  JAMES LOUGHERY (St Brigid's)

8  MICHAEL MC CANN (Cargin)
9  CONAL KELLY (St John's)

10 TOMAS MC CANN (Cargin)
11 KEVIN BRADY (Moneyglass)
12 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG (O' Donovan Rossa)

13 BRIAN NEESON (St John's)
14 MARK SWEENEY (St Brigid's)
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM (Lamh Dhearg)

16 WILLY MC SORLEY (St Brigid's)
17 RYAN DALY (St Brigid's)
18 COLM DUFFIN (Moneyglass)
19 ANTO HEALEY (St Gall's)
20 RICKY JOHNSTON (Creggan)
21 MARTY JOHNSTON (Creggan)
22 KEVIN MARRON (Moneyglass)
23 SEAN FINCH (O'Donovan Rossa)
24 AODHAN GALLAGHER (St Gall's)
25 SIMON MC DONAGH (St John's)
26 RYAN MURRAY (Lamh Dhearg)
27. MICHAEL MAGILL (Randalstown)
28. KEVIN O BOYLE (Cargin)
29. PATRICK MC BRIDE (St John's)
30. CONOR MURRAY (Lamh Dhearg)
31. AARON DOUGLAS (St John's)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 09:23:11 AM
Another win, high enough score also, anyone at the game wish to put up a report?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 12:43:57 PM
Yeah a few away games to come, but bar the Rossie's I'd say we are with a very good chance of promotion again. Keep a winning team playing I say. The current team seems to have gelled well with plenty of strong options on the bench.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 04, 2012, 05:42:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
Good win alright. Should have been out of sight long before we were. Hit a lot of wides. Offaly full back got a straight red in the 1st half for "cursing" apparently. Umpires alerted the ref to it. Very strange. We'd have won easy enough anyway, I think. Tomas McCann scored a cracking goal at the start of the second half. Magill came on but was ineffective.
Next two are big games.

Fair enough assessment. Offaly very poor and we were very good. If you think of the shite we've had to watch this if the best team we've ever had.

And as MR1 says it is a 'team.' There may be better individuals in the county but a team without egos is vital. Players playing for each other with noone thinking they're better than the rest and upsetting the team is the way forward. We had it that way at the beginning of 2010 but lost it after March.

Some fantastic scores, 2 outrageous ones from Bam, one from C Kelly, 3 from Loughrey, great goal from PC, even better individual run and goal from Tomas, great score from Armstong and a super score from the tireless Tony Scullion following a high catch from Loughrey in defence and end to end move were the highlights.

On this evidence we are too good for Div 3.

IF we hadda somehow stayed up in Div 2 last yr we could've consolidated this year but that would take some serious belief and guts that at that level we've never shown before.

We are a couple of high scoring forwards shy of being a serious Div 2 team.

Need to push on and secure promotion though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on March 05, 2012, 03:36:46 PM
The key message is that this is a return to a team performance. The 'star' players in the team, and there are some 'stars', play within the team, and clearly this group enjoys playing football together.

The fiasco that was the promotion from Division 3, last time, ensured that Antrim could not survive in Division 2. Hopefully, Baker has learned the lesson, and the 'panel' is the team itself!

Thanks due to the players who suffered most from the fiasco, but stuck with the County.

Great combination of 'young' players who earned the hard promotions from Dv 2, and 3, with an even younger bunch of top players! Think that the main group of 'senior' players are around 25/26 years!

The next two weekends will be a real test! Supporters required in Roscommon, and particularly Longford.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on March 05, 2012, 04:09:30 PM
Divisions 3, 4 and 5 to start on Sunday. Div 1 and 2 on the 15th of April and Divisions 6 starts on the 1st of April.

DIV 3
Sarsfields v St. Brigid's
Cargin v Casements
Con Magees v McDermott's
Ardoyne v O'Donnell's
Dunloy v Davitts

DIV 4
Creggan v St. Gall's
Lámh Dhearg v St. Paul's
Eire Og v St. Agnes'
St. Comgall's v St. Malachy's
St. Enda's v St. John's

DIV 5
Gort na Mona v Aghagallon
Pearse's v Lisburn
Ballycastle v Rasharkin
Sarsfield's v Glenavy

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2012, 07:58:55 PM
Fair play to Baker and the lads. There is a nice fresh feel to the set up this year, and the vibes coming from the camp are all very positive - unlike last year!

I watched the squad train last week up at Cloney and I was very impressed with the content, delivery and intensity of the session. Had a feeling we were going really well, big numbers out and everyone really going at it.

Paddy Finn getting the team tackling well all over the pitch and Geroid getting the ball moving quick and good support play built in.

Its early days, but good so far. Keep it going for sure - but lets hope we have a bit of something extra up our sleeves for the summer months too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on March 08, 2012, 08:39:39 AM
Poor J.C. had to put up with too much last Sunday at the O'Cahan Cup match. Subs one of his own players who proceeds to belt him on his way off the pitch with a judas punch! Cant get my head around that. Aldergrove playing really well, put us out in the first round, then Dunloy, the players should all be singing off the same sheet but seemingly not. Who would be a manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
They would do better to appreciate him while he is there. Top man JC.

He managed Aldergrove against us in an ugly enough u-21 c`ship a few years ago. We were leading by 2 at half time, but the referee got a score mixed up, and called it level. The referee asked JC - who put him right - against the best interests of the team he was managing. He easily could have bluffed it off and said he didnt know ( as most of us might). Good touch - a mark of a proper sportsman and gael. Great man around a football team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on March 08, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
Has the idea of a divisional team made up of players from Inter & Junior playing in the Senior Championship ever been proposed? I know they do something similar in southern counties. I'm just thinking purely from the perspective of players with clubs who may never get the chance to play Senior, and also with a look to add another competitive (would it even be competitive?) team to the championship. I can think of a plethora of reasons why not, I just think the positives would greatly outweigh the negative.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on March 08, 2012, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on March 08, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
Has the idea of a divisional team made up of players from Inter & Junior playing in the Senior Championship ever been proposed? I know they do something similar in southern counties. I'm just thinking purely from the perspective of players with clubs who may never get the chance to play Senior, and also with a look to add another competitive (would it even be competitive?) team to the championship. I can think of a plethora of reasons why not, I just think the positives would greatly outweigh the negative.

I think they tried it with the South West in hurling. I'm sure the teams would be competitive, to a point. Against the likes of Cargin and St Galls they would likely struggle but probably would be competitive against the middling and weaker teams in the SFC. Would the players still be eligible to play intermediate and junior championships with there own clubs? It might put a strain on the fixtures as games in the IFC and JFC might have to be postponed due to player involvement in the SFC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 09, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
A combined colleges team from Belfast in mccrory cup could work. I think they've done it in Dublin hurling to good effect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2012, 03:25:30 PM
This idea has been mooted on several occasions. Not sure the schools in question were even in favour of it. In any event, its less likely to happen now that St Marys CBS has shown a school can be competitive at this level in its own right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 09, 2012, 04:34:54 PM
According to Club Aontroma the Antrim team to play Roscommon is:

1  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)

2  Patrick Gallagher (Glenavy)
3  Deaghlan O'Hagan (St Brigid's)
4  Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)

5  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7  James Loughery (St Brigid's)

8  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9  Conal Kelly (St John's)

10 Tomas McCann (Cargin)
11 Michael Magill (Randalstown)
12 Michael Armstrong (O' Donovan Rossa)

13 Brian Neeson (St John's)
14 Mark Sweeney (St Brigid's)
15 Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 09, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 09, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
A combined colleges team from Belfast in mccrory cup could work. I think they've done it in Dublin hurling to good effect.

Already in operation. Team called St Mary's CGBS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2012, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 09, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 09, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
A combined colleges team from Belfast in mccrory cup could work. I think they've done it in Dublin hurling to good effect.

Already in operation. Team called St Mary's CGBS.
CBGS.

Somewhere an angel has lost its wings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
Big test tomorrow in Dr Hyde Park. Not an easy place tp pick up points - a good result here would be a huge sign we are going in the right direction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2012, 10:38:29 AM
The Rossie's wouldn't have their strongest team on paper out tomorrow. Of the two away games we would need to get a result in at least one of them and win at home in our final game. Would be some lift for the lads to win tomorrow. Both teams will have strong subs to come on and this game will be tight. One or two points in it in the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 10, 2012, 11:05:13 AM
Big game. Quietly confident but if Ros get a start on us we could be in trouble.

Anyone goin? Bit of a trek but contemplating it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 10, 2012, 02:41:44 PM
Oh yeah I forgot - CBGS. Must be great to be in the senior A colleges final year after year - NOT. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on March 10, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
The logistics of putting in a team made of up of disparate players from St Mary's, St Malachy's, Rathmore et al would be far too complex to consider this, and the time and effort would be better invested in Club Coaching Development and County Development squads. Would, for example, there be a quota of players from individual schools on each team? What would happen to the rest of the players who aren't good enough to get on that panel?

Also, amalgamation is all well and good for the players selected but as a county and island whose participation levels at senior level are falling - partly due migration to other sports, or permanent emigration after school/university altogether - I can't see how alienating upwards of 70 players each year is an option. Improve coaching levels across the board rather than trying to select already polished players; encourage a schools training program that caters for players of all ability and doesn't give up on those who haven't (yet) progressed.

MacRory Cup also often gets the glamour that its history and prestige deserves, whereas it could be argued that plenty of All-Irelands at minor, U-21 and Senior levels have been built on the back of Vocational Schools titles also (Antrim won the All-Ireland VS in 1968; Won the All-Ireland U21 Football Championship in 1969). Tyrone's success in recent years hasn't necessarily been on the back of continued MacRory Cup winning teams, though obviously the minor team of 1997-8 and its successful transition to other levels might suggest otherwise.

Schools are important but clubs, in my opinion, have a far greater bearing on the individual player. I would suggest that a comprehensive re-evaluation of club training methods at all youth levels in both codes, and indeed both men and women's football, would reap serious dividends. Not that we should ignore the fact that we have two fairly decent teams at senior level in Football and Hurling at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 11, 2012, 01:00:23 AM
Quote from: stibhan on March 10, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
The logistics of putting in a team made of up of disparate players from St Mary's, St Malachy's, Rathmore et al would be far too complex to consider this, and the time and effort would be better invested in Club Coaching Development and County Development squads. Would, for example, there be a quota of players from individual schools on each team? What would happen to the rest of the players who aren't good enough to get on that panel?

Also, amalgamation is all well and good for the players selected but as a county and island whose participation levels at senior level are falling - partly due migration to other sports, or permanent emigration after school/university altogether - I can't see how alienating upwards of 70 players each year is an option. Improve coaching levels across the board rather than trying to select already polished players; encourage a schools training program that caters for players of all ability and doesn't give up on those who haven't (yet) progressed.

MacRory Cup also often gets the glamour that its history and prestige deserves, whereas it could be argued that plenty of All-Irelands at minor, U-21 and Senior levels have been built on the back of Vocational Schools titles also (Antrim won the All-Ireland VS in 1968; Won the All-Ireland U21 Football Championship in 1969). Tyrone's success in recent years hasn't necessarily been on the back of continued MacRory Cup winning teams, though obviously the minor team of 1997-8 and its successful transition to other levels might suggest otherwise.

Schools are important but clubs, in my opinion, have a far greater bearing on the individual player. I would suggest that a comprehensive re-evaluation of club training methods at all youth levels in both codes, and indeed both men and women's football, would reap serious dividends. Not that we should ignore the fact that we have two fairly decent teams at senior level in Football and Hurling at the minute.

Well said Stevo

Coaching is poor enough in alot of clubs, especially underage. I've seen some underage coaches who havent a clue. It's so important that ex players and people who think about the game get involved in coaching (like in Kilkenny) to teach kids good, smart, habits and skills that will be useful and benefit the county in years to come.

An amalgamation of schools at McCrory would be a logistical nightmare.

What we need is forwards, buckets of them. Teach kid dummies, when to dummy, how to flick balls on, how to finish, when to go for goal. We've never had a Michael Murphy, Ronan Clarke, Star Donaghy, Mattie Forde at FF.  Even one of those, combined with the rest of the workers we have now, would rocket us up the ratings.

Magill should be given a go at 14 --if doesnt work but Aidso in midfield beside Kelly and put Mick McCann edge of square.

Or put Loughrey in edge of square, isolate him one on one with a full back, kick the ball in in front of him and sit back and enjoy what would follow (with Tomas flying off his shoulder from half forward #partytime
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 11, 2012, 02:45:35 PM
latest score:

Ros 0-03 antrim 1-01
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on March 11, 2012, 03:45:49 PM
Latest Score:

Ros Comáin  1-8 Aontroim 1-3

M. McCann scored goal inside first minute   ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 11, 2012, 09:12:56 PM
Poor, flat performance today.

Goal within a minute following good move up the right putting Sweeney in, who drew the full back and hand passed it over his head to Magill who palmed it over the keepers head for a goal.

Went downhill from then on. Ros tagged a few scores back and it was 1-1 to 0-3 when Ross's Cathel Cregg shot for a point from the 40 dropped short to the full forward who was lurking in behind P  Gallagher and finished calmly past Kerr with a side foot finish. It was really our first time behind all year and we didnt respond well.

We were leggy and didnt get the ball from half back/midfield to our forwards. Grass was long and didnt suit us. Didnt suit our pace and the ball wouldnt bounce, catching us out a fair few times.

Mick McCann caught some amount of ball in the first half but couldnt get the ball to the FF line and we were done for overcarrying on numerous occasions. Most ball going to Magill and Neeson came straight back out. Magill nearly got a second similar goal when 2 points down soon after the Ros goal but the keeper got a finger to it to slow the ball down and a full back cleared it off the line.

Cunningham scored good point from play and Mick scored a class point from distance with outside of boot following great run but it was all against the run of play. We had to work so hard for our 1-3 in the first half whilst Ros scored with ease and should have been further that 4 ahead at half time if it wasnt for their 8 or 9 first half wides.

C Kelly came off for Aidso G just before half time.

HT was 1-7 to 1-3

We'd chances to score first in 2nd half but didnt take them including a free from the right from PC and an easy free from the left from Tomas--bad bad miss and not like him this year.

Ross tagged on a few more scores in a 2nd half that was awful, characterized by an awful ref who was as bad for both teams and gave bizarre call after bizarre call. Twice in 2nd half he got in the way of our move on the break around midfield, one time almost forcing Tomas to pick the ball off the deck and the 2nd giving a hop ball even though the desired pass ended up in our mans hands (after hitting the ref in the head). Of course Ros got the ball and scored. He blew Mick up for taking 3 seconds to hit a free at midfield but let Ros have 60 seconds to bring their keeper up to hit a long range free 2 mins later. (Is there a different rule that you're allowed to take longer to hit a free if it's scoreable but not if it's not a shot on goal>?

It took us 22mins to score in 2nd half--awful, fragmented display. When Bam got it he tried hard but forced it when it wasnt on, shooting when leaning back and off balance--ballooning it up in the air a right few times and finished scoreless. Magill is still a way off full pace.

O'Hagan and P Gallagher were taken off at half time for Kev O Boyle and M Johnstone. O'Hagan was doing rightly on the ball but in defence we were 2nd to every ball all day.

Loughrey didnt have his usual good game, he was beaten to the ball by his nippy, fast man and he checked his normally surging forward runs instead of driving on. HE was then injured and came off with about 10 to go with what looked like a pull, tear. Hopefully not serious.

Kerr saved a one on one and blocked another. A further one on one was blasted against the bar. Ros could have been out of sight.

Unbeleiveably we had a chance to remain in with a chance of getting something out of this match when we got a penalty for a pull on Magill with 10 to go with 5 in it. PC hit it to the keepers left who dived to that side and saved it easily at a nice height. Think penalties should be hit by people who strike frees off the deck. I'd have had Tomas striking it but it was never our day.

A minute later a second penalty should have been given when Magill was again clearly pulled when a high ball came in but the ref didnt have the balls to give another.

We only showed any fight in the last 10 mins and when i say us it was really only the driving Tony Scullion.

We seemed to freeze after the Ros goal early on and were hesitant in everything we did , constantly handpassing the ball away, not moving at pace, getting turned over and over-carrying.

The game petered out really and the 4 point loss of 1-10 to 1-6 flattered us.

Hopefully it was just a blip as we're much better than that and i fancy us to step up and turn Ros over next week. Hope Loughrey is ok though as we could do with his pace.

When we play with pace we are dangerous. When we're hesitant we are less than average.

Hopefully longford cut the grass

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on March 11, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
Could have sworn your man on the radio said McCann scored the goal. Anyone listening in? He was some craic and couldn't name an Antrim player for love nor money. Fair play to him though he seemed to be having a great time.

As for the us I don't think its a case of getting too negative, away games in this league will be tough and we have tougher ones coming up. Huge game versus Longford, hope to still hear positive things from the camp going into next week. Important that the injury to Loughrey isn't too bad as we struggle without him.

Cheers for the report Gold and fair play to you for making the jaunt.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on March 12, 2012, 01:05:16 AM
Just took a look at the club fixtures there and I noticed in division 4 the teams who played each other today play each other again next week e.g. st comgalls beat st malachy's today and they are playing each other again next week. Any reason for this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Quagmire on March 12, 2012, 02:08:39 AM
Apparently nobody got booked or sent off for St Malachy's and the only names the Ref took were from Antrim!! There's reverberations through the refereeing fraternity and they want to see does lightning strike twice.... the day after St Patrick's Day... talk about loading the dice!!!  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 12, 2012, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on March 12, 2012, 01:05:16 AM
Just took a look at the club fixtures there and I noticed in division 4 the teams who played each other today play each other again next week e.g. st comgalls beat st malachy's today and they are playing each other again next week. Any reason for this?

This was done last year also in some lower leagues - at the request of the 'A' teams in those leagues - not wanting to play 'B' teams until the higher divisions get started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on March 12, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 12, 2012, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on March 12, 2012, 01:05:16 AM
Just took a look at the club fixtures there and I noticed in division 4 the teams who played each other today play each other again next week e.g. st comgalls beat st malachy's today and they are playing each other again next week. Any reason for this?

This was done last year also in some lower leagues - at the request of the 'A' teams in those leagues - not wanting to play 'B' teams until the higher divisions get started.

That explains it. Fair enough, the reserve teams probably have a handful of senior players playing early on and it might be unfair to ask a junior team to play a "reserve" team with players who wouldn't be there once div 1 and 2 start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 12, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2012, 02:08:39 AM
Apparently nobody got booked or sent off for St Malachy's and the only names the Ref took were from Antrim!!

Now - that is something to write home about!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tipplad on March 15, 2012, 05:24:34 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on March 12, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2012, 02:08:39 AM
Apparently nobody got booked or sent off for St Malachy's and the only names the Ref took were from Antrim!!

In fact two very dangerous tackles form the Antrim men and not retaliated by st Malls. New man in charge of the Malls and setting about changing attitudes as well

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on March 16, 2012, 12:16:32 AM
Antrim Team V Longford

1  CHRIS KERR

2  KEVIN O BOYLE
3  RICKY JOHNSTON
4  MARTY JOHNSTON

5  TONY SCULLION
6  JUSTIN CROZIER
7  JAMES LOUGHERY

8  MICHAEL MC CANN
9  AODHON GALLAGHER

10 TOMAS MC CANN
11 CONALL KELLY
12 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG

13 CONOR MURRAY
14 MARK SWEENEY
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM

Wasn't sure if they'd play any u21's what with their championship on wednesday but there you go he has, maybe if the game wasn't so important they would have been rested.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 17, 2012, 11:46:01 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on March 16, 2012, 12:16:32 AM
Antrim Team V Longford

1  CHRIS KERR

2  KEVIN O BOYLE
3  RICKY JOHNSTON
4  MARTY JOHNSTON

5  TONY SCULLION
6  JUSTIN CROZIER
7  JAMES LOUGHERY

8  MICHAEL MC CANN
9  AODHON GALLAGHER

10 TOMAS MC CANN
11 CONALL KELLY
12 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG

13 CONOR MURRAY
14 MARK SWEENEY
15 PADDY CUNNINGHAM

Wasn't sure if they'd play any u21's what with their championship on wednesday but there you go he has, maybe if the game wasn't so important they would have been rested.

Back to porridge tomorrow after Croker today.

Need a win or it's promotion over. Hope more than the 15 who went to Ros travel to LD and make a bit of noise for the boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crookes on March 19, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
Whats your predictions for this weeks Antrim U21 team V Down?

The team has been named there tonight.

1 KYLAN ALLSOPP              ST. JOHNS

2 CONOR MC ILVENNY       LAMH DHEARG
3 RICKY JOHNSTON            KICKHAMS CREGGAN
4 MICHAEL HYNES               LAMH DHEARG

5 STEPHEN TIERNEY           ST. JOHNS
6 MARTY JOHNSTON           KICKHAMS CREGGAN
7 PATRICK MC BRIDE          ST. JOHNS

8 JOHN CARRON                  CARGIN
9 EOIN GALLAGHER             GLENAVY

10 JAMES LAVERTY              CARGIN (CAPTAIN)
11 STEPHEN TULLY              LAMH DHEARG
12 DECLAN LYNCH               LAMH DHEARG

13 RYAN MURRAY                LAMH DHEARG
14 HUGH MC NULTY             KICKHAMS CREGGAN
15 COLM DUFFIN                   MONEYGLASS

16 MURTAGH MC KEAGUE   KICKHAMS CREGGAN
17 BRENDAN BRADLEY         ST. GALLS
18 CAOIMHIN DUFFIN            TIR NA NOG
19 CONOR HAMILL                 GLENAVY
20 FEARGHAL JOHNSTON     CARGIN
21 RONAN MC GRADY            ST. BRIGIDS
22 DAVID MC GUCKIN            KICKHAMS CREGGAN
23 CONOR MC KENNA           EIRE OG
24 AIDEN MC KEOWN            KICKHAMS CREGGAN
25 STEPHEN O CONNOR       ST. ENDAS
26 NIALL O NEILL                    ST. GALLS
27 DIARMUID QUINN               RASHARKIN
28 DECLAN STRANEY             LAMH DHEARG
29 CHRISTY SHEERIN             TIR NA NOG
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 19, 2012, 11:07:09 PM
Quote from: crookes on March 19, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
Whats your predictions for this weeks Antrim U21 team V Down?

The team has been named there tonight.

1 KYLAN ALLSOPP              ST. JOHNS

2 CONOR MC ILVENNY       LAMH DHEARG
3 RICKY JOHNSTON            KICKHAMS CREGGAN
4 MICHAEL HYNES               LAMH DHEARG

5 STEPHEN TIERNEY           ST. JOHNS
6 MARTY JOHNSTON           KICKHAMS CREGGAN
7 PATRICK MC BRIDE          ST. JOHNS

8 JOHN CARRON                  CARGIN
9 EOIN GALLAGHER             GLENAVY

10 JAMES LAVERTY              CARGIN (CAPTAIN)
11 STEPHEN TULLY              LAMH DHEARG
12 DECLAN LYNCH               LAMH DHEARG

13 RYAN MURRAY                LAMH DHEARG
14 HUGH MC NULTY             KICKHAMS CREGGAN
15 COLM DUFFIN                   MONEYGLASS

16 MURTAGH MC KEAGUE   KICKHAMS CREGGAN
17 BRENDAN BRADLEY         ST. GALLS
18 CAOIMHIN DUFFIN            TIR NA NOG
19 CONOR HAMILL                 GLENAVY
20 FEARGHAL JOHNSTON     CARGIN
21 RONAN MC GRADY            ST. BRIGIDS
22 DAVID MC GUCKIN            KICKHAMS CREGGAN
23 CONOR MC KENNA           EIRE OG
24 AIDEN MC KEOWN            KICKHAMS CREGGAN
25 STEPHEN O CONNOR       ST. ENDAS
26 NIALL O NEILL                    ST. GALLS
27 DIARMUID QUINN               RASHARKIN
28 DECLAN STRANEY             LAMH DHEARG
29 CHRISTY SHEERIN             TIR NA NOG

Think we've a poor record at underage lately and could do with a win--one away to Down would be class but will be difficult. IF we get a start on them we have a chance.

I also think no one really gives a f**k and the only Antrim people who will be there will be a few parents, some county board officials and about 5 die hard supporters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 19, 2012, 11:07:09 PM
Quote from: crookes on March 19, 2012, 09:51:39 PM

Think we've a poor record at underage lately and could do with a win--one away to Down would be class but will be difficult. IF we get a start on them we have a chance.

I also think no one really gives a f**k and the only Antrim people who will be there will be a few parents, some county board officials and about 5 die hard supporters

I think the main problem for a lot of Antrim men in supportting away games is the cost, not just the ticket but fuel is having a major bearing on lads heading off to games, going to Longford would cost a right few pound on fuel, ticket and some food, not much change from 60 quid I'd imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Down brought 4000 odd to an away league game v Cork last year --we couldnt bring 40!

Also, Down outnumbered us AT CASEMENT at least 7 to 1 (maybe 15 to 1) in the qualifier game last year.

Considering the population of 'Irishmen' (Celtic fans) living close to Casement i think thats a disgrace as we should be packing out that stadium.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Down brought 4000 odd to an away league game v Cork last year --we couldnt bring 40!

Also, Down outnumbered us AT CASEMENT at least 7 to 1 (maybe 15 to 1) in the qualifier game last year.

Considering the population of 'Irishmen' (Celtic fans) living close to Casement i think thats a disgrace as we should be packing out that stadium.

Yes it's crap and where are all the supporters that went to Clones? Bandwagon supporters for sure. Forget that Casement's surrounding area has a massive population, even if it were free into the ground they still wouldn't turn up. If Celtic were playing a friendly against Luton on TV they'd rather go and watch that.

I've no answers for ya on that Gold, plenty playing GAA in Belfast just no supporters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2012, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Down brought 4000 odd to an away league game v Cork last year --we couldnt bring 40!

Also, Down outnumbered us AT CASEMENT at least 7 to 1 (maybe 15 to 1) in the qualifier game last year.

Considering the population of 'Irishmen' (Celtic fans) living close to Casement i think thats a disgrace as we should be packing out that stadium.

Yes it's crap and where are all the supporters that went to Clones? Bandwagon supporters for sure. Forget that Casement's surrounding area has a massive population, even if it were free into the ground they still wouldn't turn up. If Celtic were playing a friendly against Luton on TV they'd rather go and watch that.

I've no answers for ya on that Gold, plenty playing GAA in Belfast just no supporters.

Exactly--consider the amount of people you've played with--from underage to senior--then consider whether they attend county games--very, very few i'd say. Even ex county players who were 'antrim till they die' whilst playing are rarely seen near it. If there's no change in attitude there'll be no desire for youngsters to get on County teams as there's no suuport so what's the point, meaning less talent coming through, less competition for places and eternal damnation of Div 3/4 yo yo football.

Can we do anything to get people interested, get them out the door to matches, get them to clap or cheer like the opposing supporters do when our players run out on the pitch or should we just resign ourselves to the way things are and give up and be happy when Celtic beat Airdrie/Cowdenbeath/Stirling Albion 2-0
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2012, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 20, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Down brought 4000 odd to an away league game v Cork last year --we couldnt bring 40!

Also, Down outnumbered us AT CASEMENT at least 7 to 1 (maybe 15 to 1) in the qualifier game last year.

Considering the population of 'Irishmen' (Celtic fans) living close to Casement i think thats a disgrace as we should be packing out that stadium.

Yes it's crap and where are all the supporters that went to Clones? Bandwagon supporters for sure. Forget that Casement's surrounding area has a massive population, even if it were free into the ground they still wouldn't turn up. If Celtic were playing a friendly against Luton on TV they'd rather go and watch that.

I've no answers for ya on that Gold, plenty playing GAA in Belfast just no supporters.

Exactly--consider the amount of people you've played with--from underage to senior--then consider whether they attend county games--very, very few i'd say. Even ex county players who were 'antrim till they die' whilst playing are rarely seen near it. If there's no change in attitude there'll be no desire for youngsters to get on County teams as there's no suuport so what's the point, meaning less talent coming through, less competition for places and eternal damnation of Div 3/4 yo yo football.

Can we do anything to get people interested, get them out the door to matches, get them to clap or cheer like the opposing supporters do when our players run out on the pitch or should we just resign ourselves to the way things are and give up and be happy when Celtic beat Airdrie/Cowdenbeath/Stirling Albion 2-0

Yes it is very frustrating, Ive been to many away games with the hurlers over the years, usually try and fit it in with a night over somewhere. A bitta craic with mates and watch the game. As you have already said Gold the only ones there are the parents and some friends of players and the die hard fans.

What way do you think we could solve this problem? I'd say the lads would put a wee bit more effort in had we more supporters at these games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tipplad on March 21, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
Have to say as an exiled Tipp man living in Belfast( been to 2 antrim matches this year in casement and the qualifier last year v down. Plus some hurling games of course) it is scary the lack of pride in the county team. I know its maybe easy saying that with Tipp's tradition but even in the bad times big crowds travel and county players are like gods. I think there seems to be a general feeling in antrim the right men aren't being selected because of bias and politics. This present or a new team need to create their own excitement or legacy and maybe a bomber liston type goal scorer would bring some star quality!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crookes on March 21, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Does anyone know the result for the U21s tonight V Down in Newry?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 21, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
Down 2.11, Antrim1.9 - Antrim hit what seemed like about 10 wides. Tough result on the team.

Re suppotrers turnout its an unfair thing to say but the only thing that will bring crowds out is success. When the team was moderately successful ('09) look at the crowds that travelled to Clones (twice) and Tullamore. The follwing season we swanned through Div 3 and while the crowds were small they were still bigger than they have been since.

Success brings supporters to games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 22, 2012, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 21, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
Down 2.11, Antrim1.9 - Antrim hit what seemed like about 10 wides. Tough result on the team.

Re suppotrers turnout its an unfair thing to say but the only thing that will bring crowds out is success. When the team was moderately successful ('09) look at the crowds that travelled to Clones (twice) and Tullamore. The follwing season we swanned through Div 3 and while the crowds were small they were still bigger than they have been since.

Success brings supporters to games.

Never looked like winning apart from a ten minute spell in the first half. Went from a two point lead to a four point deficit in the ten minutes before half time. Down got a goal at the start of the second half and held the saffrons at arms length thereafter. Don't think Antrim got closer than 5. Yes, Antrim missed a lot, but you got the impression that Down could have lifted it had they needed to.

Down had two very good players in the full forward line (#14 and #15, McGarry and O'Hare I think they were). The small, speedy McGarry in particular gave big Ricky a torrid hour.  Antrim had no forwards of this calibre, although McNulty was quite effective. Ultimately that was the difference between the two teams.

Best for Antrim I thought were Marty Johnston and Gallagher of Glenavy and to a lesser degree Hynes at corner back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 22, 2012, 10:44:23 AM
I think Antrim has a very high proportion of fly by nights. If it'll be "good craic" to go to these things they'll go (i.e. when no thanks to them the team acheives a decent level of success), but they have no clue the importance of them attending in the dark days to show the players that it matters enough to enough people for them to make a better job of what they're doing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
We are living in tough economic times lads, and sometimes you have to prioritise what you do with your wages!

Gone are the days when you can blindly follow your county footballers and hurlers all around the country. In our house there are four adult memberships, and three juvenile ones too. Thats a lot of football boots, gear, not to mention training fees, the proper meals and drinks. The club lotto must be supportedtoo. As well as a club direct debit scheme.

And even if you have sons/daughters playing you still pay into club matches.

The large club functions throughout the year (5 or 6 on average) must be supported too. On average allow £100 a night for tickets/socialising/taxis etc.

There are offspring playing on the club senior, reserve, minor, u-16 and one playing camogie too. You would want to get to most of these matches to offer parental support. Half of these are away fixtures - throw in £25 or £30 for fuel.

And maybe you turned down the chance to manage a couple of other club teams (at decent money) - just so that you can put a bit back into your own club, by taking your own club team. (Reserves in this case).

And then you would still like to get to as many county matches as possible too - but guess what - the budget is well and truly hammered!

So what used to be every match, wherever/whenever, its a case now of sitting back and picking one or two off, now and again.

The club must come first folks or we can forget about the whole thing!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 22, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
We are living in tough economic times lads, and sometimes you have to prioritise what you do with your wages!

Gone are the days when you can blindly follow your county footballers and hurlers all around the country. In our house there are four adult memberships, and three juvenile ones too. Thats a lot of football boots, gear, not to mention training fees, the proper meals and drinks. The club lotto must be supportedtoo. As well as a club direct debit scheme.

And even if you have sons/daughters playing you still pay into club matches.

The large club functions throughout the year (5 or 6 on average) must be supported too. On average allow £100 a night for tickets/socialising/taxis etc.

There are offspring playing on the club senior, reserve, minor, u-16 and one playing camogie too. You would want to get to most of these matches to offer parental support. Half of these are away fixtures - throw in £25 or £30 for fuel.

And maybe you turned down the chance to manage a couple of other club teams (at decent money) - just so that you can put a bit back into your own club, by taking your own club team. (Reserves in this case).

And then you would still like to get to as many county matches as possible too - but guess what - the budget is well and truly hammered!

So what used to be every match, wherever/whenever, its a case now of sitting back and picking one or two off, now and again.

The club must come first folks or we can forget about the whole thing!!

+1 Bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 22, 2012, 01:12:21 PM
Absolutelty +1

But for every one of those Gaels...there are 10 or 20 fly by nights who like to talk about the great gaels they are but simply hang around waiting to snipe when they read the irish news report or jump on the bandwagon when theres signs of progress. We have more of those than is healthy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2012, 10:34:51 PM
100% Skull. For the size of our county, in sheer terms of potential gaels, and the number of clubs involved, we are without doubt the worst supported county in the whole country.

But we have more experts and know alls than any other too. A mixed up bunch alright!

Funny enough, what Loughgiel did at the weekend, and St Galls a year or two back, shows that with the right hunger, training and organisation, that we have enough quality to work with. Hard to put your finger on the cause of decades of underachievement at county level.

Could Pat Gilroy turn us around if he did exactly the same with us as the way he rejuvenated Dublin. Or would he get us a lot further up the rankings? Is it a management thing? Is it finance? Are our players not good enough-period!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 23, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
Antrim team to play Wexford on Sunday 25th (12:45pm!)

1.  Chris Kerr (St. Gall's)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin)
3.  Ricky Johnston (Creggan)
4.  Marty Johnston (Creggan)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  James Loughery (St. Brigid's)

8.  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9.  Aodhan Gallagher (St. Gall's)

10.  Tomas McCann (Cargin)
11.  Conal Kelly (St. John's)
12.  Michael Armstrong (O'Donovan Rossa)

13.  Michael Magill (Randalstown)
14.  Mark Sweeney (St Brigid's)
15.  Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 25, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
Shocking performance from the Saffs today,def a fair few on show who are not county material.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 25, 2012, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: glens abu on March 25, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
Shocking performance from the Saffs today,def a fair few on show who are not county material.

Who?

Yeah, poor enough. Wexford were on a different level and hit 18 points to our 9--showing the difference between the 2 attacks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 25, 2012, 07:41:40 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 25, 2012, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: glens abu on March 25, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
Shocking performance from the Saffs today,def a fair few on show who are not county material.

Who?

Yeah, poor enough. Wexford were on a different level and hit 18 points to our 9--showing the difference between the 2 attacks

On todays showing Armstrong,Kelly ,and the fullback line,esp the two Johnstones also thought Aodhan Gallagher had the worst game I ever seen him play in an Aontroim jersey.Just my opinion. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
Did the sending off's not play a big part also in the defeat? I only got up for the last 20 minutes, was refereeing a kids game at the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 25, 2012, 08:49:29 PM
Not really although saying that even how bad we played we could have stolen it but they missed 3 good goal chances and had a lot of wides in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 25, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
Did the sending off's not play a big part also in the defeat? I only got up for the last 20 minutes, was refereeing a kids game at the club.

Yeah we are a handful of players short of being decent.

Wexford could have mauled us MR2. They scored at will and missed goal chances galore. They had 5 forwards who'd be near household names whereas we dont.

They kicked 18 points whereas we kicked 9 (and we didnt kick many wides, certainly less than wex did).

We one 1 clean catch at midfield (actually was aidso halfway through 2nd half). Our midfield is really too small to be inter-county standard. Each week we're playing v much taller and wider midfield pairings. The boys battle hard but the physical disadvatage there will usually work against us.

Half forward line was non-existent for long periods and Tomas didnt have his usual good game. Feel Loughrey would add more here as again he's the only one to break through and past a tackle at pace and when he's further forward goal and point chances open up. In ideal world Sean Kelly at wing back would let Loughrey free and perhaps McClean at CHB would help matters. As would Terry O'Neill at wing forward. Decky O'Hagan played v well in first 3 games and then got gassed--safe on ball and cant understand why he got dropped.

Magill played well and brought us back in it when we should have been dead and buried with his goal that was well worked through Loughrey then Scullion's pace.

Bam came on and scored a point but was then sent off just after our goal when there was only 2 in it with minutes left. Loughrey gave a ball up the left to Magill, flew on looking for a return, Magill's handpass over the forward was not far enough to be in his path (and possibly in on goal) forcing Lockrey to slow and turn back to collect the ball. He then shot under pressure straight up in the air and Bam jumped too early for the catch. The defender caught the ball but fell over --Bam appeared to jump with 2 knees into his back for no reason. Straight red. Game over. From the free Wexfords 2 pass move was put to an end by the TS Express who buried one of their half forwards with what looked (nearly) like a fair shoulder. 2 yellows meant red--2nd red in 60 seconds. Wex scored the free and a couple more straight after.

The game was in 6 mins of injury time when we got a penalty for a pull on McDonagh (who tried to shoot when he should have passed for an easy goal). Mick McCann buried the penalty to put 2 in it with a min to go. Wex scored immediately.

We then attacked and got a 45 that was kicked in but Wexford won it and time was up

We should have lost by more than 3 but then but for stupidity and red cards we may have snatched something from the game as Wexford froze a bit at the end.

Ciaran Lyng is direct and dangerous. PJ Banville is a good ball winner. Red Barry and Colm Morris are steady safe forwards who chip in with scores whilst Ben Brosnan can hit a free and buy a free. They couldnt handle our pace however on the rare occassions we used it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2012, 11:26:25 PM
Today's showing was really disappointing. It wasn't the fact that we got beat - it was the lack of pressure wexford players got put on them from back to front and also the fact that we only played with any urgency in really really short bursts. For the most part it resembled a challenge game.

I don't know what kind of system we are trying to play or if we are trying to play a system. Really between losing short kickouts, stray men in half back and midfield all over the place it was very hard to know where to start on what was going wrong.

Good to see Magill working as a target man and good to see Michael McCann back playing well again. That's about all positive can be said about today's game. Wexford I thought were poor enough - a lot of these marquee forwards took too much out of the ball and were wasteful.

We have to be better than what we showed today - have to be. There are some decent individuals there but I don't know what is going on with tactics and motivation didn't look too good either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 26, 2012, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 25, 2012, 11:26:25 PM
Today's showing was really disappointing. It wasn't the fact that we got beat - it was the lack of pressure wexford players got put on them from back to front and also the fact that we only played with any urgency in really really short bursts. For the most part it resembled a challenge game.

I don't know what kind of system we are trying to play or if we are trying to play a system. Really between losing short kickouts, stray men in half back and midfield all over the place it was very hard to know where to start on what was going wrong.

Good to see Magill working as a target man and good to see Michael McCann back playing well again. That's about all positive can be said about today's game. Wexford I thought were poor enough - a lot of these marquee forwards took too much out of the ball and were wasteful.
We have to be better than what we showed today - have to be. There are some decent individuals there but I don't know what is going on with tactics and motivation didn't look too good either.

True. And they missed 3 cast iron certainty goal chances.

But they still kicked 0-18.

Have we ever done that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
Against Kilkenny...

Wexford have good forwards no doubt however the lack of pressure applied to them was more of an issue than their quality. 

That was one of the most disheartening games I have ever seen as an antrim fan to be honest.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
I was scared we were too far forward for February!!! Maybe a good job we were though or perhaps we would be looking at relegation at this stage. Dont think we should start playing the blame game though.

According to my feedback the vibes were good. The backroom team was well freshed up. The training session I went to see myself was good quality. The panel was freshened up too. So for that reason I wont be getting on Bakers back. But he must be wondering why he allowed a decent tenure to become one that now will certainly be reviewed with mixed feelings.

Hopefully there is one more kick in this team this year - just one mighty performance to go with some of the 2009 memories.

When the players cross that line they have to produce, and once again too many are struggling to find their proper form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on March 26, 2012, 07:27:33 PM
I don't think there is any real mystery where the problem is. Last three games points scored = 9, 6, 8. Our forwards go for goal far too often and now teams are so well drilled not to give away frees that Hands becomes redundant. Niblock gave us a real impetous when he was at 11 and there is no one to replace him. I think we should pull Loughery into the forward line also, though I guarantee it will impact our scores against. IMHO if our footballers are to achieve anything this year Baker needs to to call up and then figure out how to tame/get the best out of CJ. Say what you want about him but he has confidence and talent unlike anyone else on the panel. I'm sure that suggestion will get a warm response  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2012, 09:09:01 PM
CJ is wrecked and unlikely to play this year I'd have thought with the extent of his injury.

The number of forwards who are actually inside the opposition 45 a lot of the time isn't helping never mind who the forwards are.

There were two short periods where we dominated and the rest of the time there was a distinct lack of marking and a distinct lack of tackling. Wexford were poor in my view and there's no reason we shouldn't be beating them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Think Andy and Niblock would definitely add something positive to the mix. Andy seems to be out of favour though. Cant see CJ being recalled by any stretch of the imagination.

Lots of posters here were too quick to knock a big raw 19 year old a couple of years ago. But the truth is there isnt a midfielder in Ulster who could outcatch Niall Mc Keever. He would be some addition to this team!!!

Random and hypothetical I know - but he would have been able to win first phase possession for us that has been lacking since.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 26, 2012, 10:32:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Think Andy and Niblock would definitely add something positive to the mix. Andy seems to be out of favour though. Cant see CJ being recalled by any stretch of the imagination.

Lots of posters here were too quick to knock a big raw 19 year old a couple of years ago. But the truth is there isnt a midfielder in Ulster who could outcatch Niall Mc Keever. He would be some addition to this team!!!

Random and hypothetical I know - but he would have been able to win first phase possession for us that has been lacking since.

Would be great to have him back. I'd have big McCarry back to win ball and lay it off

Mark Dougan is a miss as an option up front too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2012, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Think Andy and Niblock would definitely add something positive to the mix. Andy seems to be out of favour though. Cant see CJ being recalled by any stretch of the imagination.

Lots of posters here were too quick to knock a big raw 19 year old a couple of years ago. But the truth is there isnt a midfielder in Ulster who could outcatch Niall Mc Keever. He would be some addition to this team!!!

Random and hypothetical I know - but he would have been able to win first phase possession for us that has been lacking since.

I don't think I've ever seen a midfielder at any level win as much ball as McKeever did the day we beat cavan in the ulster semi. Great ball winning ability in him and would have made sure that big wexford fella in midfield didn't win the amount of ball he did!

Is McLean not injured?

Be hopeful of Niblock being back come championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 27, 2012, 08:13:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 26, 2012, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
Think Andy and Niblock would definitely add something positive to the mix. Andy seems to be out of favour though. Cant see CJ being recalled by any stretch of the imagination.

Lots of posters here were too quick to knock a big raw 19 year old a couple of years ago. But the truth is there isnt a midfielder in Ulster who could outcatch Niall Mc Keever. He would be some addition to this team!!!

Random and hypothetical I know - but he would have been able to win first phase possession for us that has been lacking since.

I don't think I've ever seen a midfielder at any level win as much ball as McKeever did the day we beat cavan in the ulster semi. Great ball winning ability in him and would have made sure that big wexford fella in midfield didn't win the amount of ball he did!

Is McLean not injured?

Be hopeful of Niblock being back come championship.

Not yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on March 27, 2012, 06:12:36 PM
think mckeever and mcveigh from all saints would add to the physical side of things. if only they were available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 27, 2012, 11:57:22 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on March 27, 2012, 06:12:36 PM
think mckeever and mcveigh from all saints would add to the physical side of things. if only they were available

Assume you mean McKeever from Portglenone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Sean Mc Veigh has turned into a fine player - strong, direct and as tough as boots. I think he got a chance at county level too soon. He is in his prime now, and has really blossomed into a good footballer. Think he plans to stay in UK though. Any Ballymena posters confirm this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 28, 2012, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Sean Mc Veigh has turned into a fine player - strong, direct and as tough as boots. I think he got a chance at county level too soon. He is in his prime now, and has really blossomed into a good footballer. Think he plans to stay in UK though. Any Ballymena posters confirm this?

Forget him he's away

need to keep our forwards up the pitch--we'd no shape the other day for a long time

As someone said before get CJ back on board and we're going places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on March 28, 2012, 08:39:07 PM
cj is injured. forget him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crookes on March 30, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Sean Mc Veigh has turned into a fine player - strong, direct and as tough as boots. I think he got a chance at county level too soon. He is in his prime now, and has really blossomed into a good footballer. Think he plans to stay in UK though. Any Ballymena posters confirm this?

Sean McVeigh is not up to Inter County standard football, fair enough he played well for Ballymena in the intermediate last year but there is a massive step remember, Antrim need forwards, not more mediocre defenders/midfielders.

I don't think Antrim have or are producing prolific forwards that you see in other Ulster counties such as the Bradleys, Coulter, Jamie Clarke, Steven McDonnell, Stephen ONeill and I can go on..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on March 30, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: crookes on March 30, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Sean Mc Veigh has turned into a fine player - strong, direct and as tough as boots. I think he got a chance at county level too soon. He is in his prime now, and has really blossomed into a good footballer. Think he plans to stay in UK though. Any Ballymena posters confirm this?

Sean McVeigh is not up to Inter County standard football, fair enough he played well for Ballymena in the intermediate last year but there is a massive step remember, Antrim need forwards, not more mediocre defenders/midfielders.

I don't think Antrim have or are producing prolific forwards that you see in other Ulster counties such as the Bradleys, Coulter, Jamie Clarke, Steven McDonnell, Stephen ONeill and I can go on..

Ok, so we haven't got great forwards and by the way the U21's played against Down not any real quality talent coming through, though the full forward from Creggan was very effective in Newry. What can we do to change this? Its not a new problem in Antrim. I recall Antrim v Monaghan in 1989 at Casement were we totally dominated possession put our forwards couldn't convert, i think we shot around 17/19 wides that day. What are we not doing at club level with players that could improve this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on March 30, 2012, 12:26:46 PM

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Sean McVeigh is not up to Inter County standard football, fair enough he played well for Ballymena in the intermediate last year but there is a massive step remember, Antrim need forwards, not more mediocre defenders/midfielders.

I don't think Antrim have or are producing prolific forwards that you see in other Ulster counties such as the Bradleys, Coulter, Jamie Clarke, Steven McDonnell, Stephen ONeill and I can go on..
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think me captained london from wing half forward last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on March 30, 2012, 12:27:43 PM
*he
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on March 30, 2012, 01:55:35 PM
There is no doubt McVeigh and McKeever would make a difference around the middle. Crookes if you actually watched McVeigh in last years championship, as you say you did, then I find it difficult how you can doubt his ability/sheer power; fair enough have your opinions but to say he is 'not up to Inter County football' is a harsh to say the least. I am with Gold on this though, these guys are gone and it is useless talking about them.

I was under the impression that CJ was returning to fitness, and importantly wanted to be in the fold. My understanding was that he is not there at the preference of the manager/team. This is what I am questioning. If it is a personality problem then build a fecking bridge, people can say what they want about his attitude (attitude reflects leadership  :P ) but no one can doubt the boys class. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crookes on March 30, 2012, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on March 30, 2012, 01:55:35 PM
There is no doubt McVeigh and McKeever would make a difference around the middle. Crookes if you actually watched McVeigh in last years championship, as you say you did, then I find it difficult how you can doubt his ability/sheer power; fair enough have your opinions but to say he is 'not up to Inter County football' is a harsh to say the least. I am with Gold on this though, these guys are gone and it is useless talking about them.

I was under the impression that CJ was returning to fitness, and importantly wanted to be in the fold. My understanding was that he is not there at the preference of the manager/team. This is what I am questioning. If it is a personality problem then build a fecking bridge, people can say what they want about his attitude (attitude reflects leadership  :P ) but no one can doubt the boys class.

McKeever did prove he can play at this level the year Bradley arrived and they made it to the Ulster Final, but I heard he has been promoted to the Brisbane Lions senior list so he is not coming home anytime soon.

Again SS, ability and sheer power in intermediate. Not too sure if your aware of the step from intermediate club standard to senior club standard never mind from intermediate to Inter county.

Everyone always harps on about setting up good structures at underage up to senior but some things you can't teach players to do, they have to have a lot of it in them in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 30, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on March 30, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: crookes on March 30, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Sean Mc Veigh has turned into a fine player - strong, direct and as tough as boots. I think he got a chance at county level too soon. He is in his prime now, and has really blossomed into a good footballer. Think he plans to stay in UK though. Any Ballymena posters confirm this?

Sean McVeigh is not up to Inter County standard football, fair enough he played well for Ballymena in the intermediate last year but there is a massive step remember, Antrim need forwards, not more mediocre defenders/midfielders.

I don't think Antrim have or are producing prolific forwards that you see in other Ulster counties such as the Bradleys, Coulter, Jamie Clarke, Steven McDonnell, Stephen ONeill and I can go on..

Ok, so we haven't got great forwards and by the way the U21's played against Down not any real quality talent coming through, though the full forward from Creggan was very effective in Newry. What can we do to change this? Its not a new problem in Antrim. I recall Antrim v Monaghan in 1989 at Casement were we totally dominated possession put our forwards couldn't convert, i think we shot around 17/19 wides that day. What are we not doing at club level with players that could improve this?

Alot of it has to be in players. Not half enough flair about. Look at Gooch, Jamie Clarke, Bernard--tricks galore-throw a shape one way, onto other foot and over the bar etc. Our players are a bit boring
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: intheknow11 on March 31, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Baker aint Far away from leaving off the saffrons where he got them.. Being found out for what he is i believe.. Had a decent panel back then now its a mockery of the real talent in Antrim!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crookes on March 31, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
Quote from: intheknow11 on March 31, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Baker aint Far away from leaving off the saffrons where he got them.. Being found out for what he is i believe.. Had a decent panel back then now its a mockery of the real talent in Antrim!!

Have to totally agree with you, the year we made it the ulster final we were playing slightly better football but we got a handy run to the final meeting poor donegal/cavan and kerry teams.

I myself was surprised he stayed on this year.. Hopefully I will be proved wrong this summer in championship. An upset against Monaghan would be awesome
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 02, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
Whats the problem with Galls players?
County champions for years and only one out field player? Sonething not right there.
Are the county trying to end their dominance?

See quite a few fellas on the panel who probably shouldn be there, mediocre club players at best.

Management need to get busy!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 03, 2012, 08:42:09 AM
Sympathies to gaaboard poster bannside and his family on the recent death of their father.

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
Thanks for that SS2. Huge percentage of Gaels amongst the mourners. Just a reminder of how great the GAA organisation is, and the important role it has in the community.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 02:00:50 PM
I think St galls dominance may continue for longer now their players are no longer with the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Student Dissertation on April 04, 2012, 03:28:41 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on April 05, 2012, 11:30:37 PM
Antrim team v Cavan, Sunday 8 April 2012

1. William Mc Sorley

2. Patrick Gallagher
3. Deaghlan O Hagan
4. Kevin O Boyle

5. Tony Scullion
6. Justin Crozier
7. James Loughery

8. Simon Mc Donagh
9. Aodhan Gallagher

10. Conor Murray
11. Owen Gallagher
12. Martin Johnson

13. Colm Duffin
14. Michael Mc Cann
15. Mark Sweeney

Last chance saloon for a few boys before Championship and with the probability of a few more names being added to the fold before long. With that there should be more than enough pressure, which is a good thing IMO.

Having said that I would reiterate my worries from before about our forward line. Would be nice to get a win before Monaghan all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 07, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
I am completley bewildered by baker's decisions at the minute,we are struggling for scoring forwards and what does he do, brings in 4 under 21 players. All unproven??? I know young tierney from our club is a good footballer but I think its too early for him, deary me you are 100% right he needs to bring in the st galls boys mc gourtys, niblock, mc lean, kelly and so on if we want any chance of beating monaghan, there are average club players on the panel. Would be nice to get a win ahead of the monaghan game. I can't see it though. I hope baker can unearth or at least put his silly arguments with players to the side and get the best players playing for antrim as I am getting sick of paying in £11 to watch pure and utter s**t.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on April 08, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
Sligo and Antrim joined at the hip once again, fck sakes lads next yr ye better get promoted ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 09, 2012, 02:30:15 PM
Fair play to Baker. Changes worked.

Finally played Loughrey wing forward and what did we get--goals

2 for Loughrey and he made another.

Penetration in the half forward line opens up goal chances and wins games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on April 09, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
I made a comment a few weeks back that we go for goals far too often, I'd like to recsind that.

Been pushing for Loughrey in half forward line for quite some time maybe not as vociferous as Gold though  ;). It was a no-brainer.

If we could now only get some of the St. Galls contingent back in starting: Brady, McClean (CHB), Niblock and somehow coerce CJ and Kelly (Still best in county IMO), we'd be nicely set up for a push at Sam.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on April 09, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
BTW was wondering  where McCann is? he played a bit part in beating us earlier in the yr...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on April 09, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
By the way of assisting those who talk about Antrim games, as opposed to watching them, and who want to see the St Gall's contingent return.

Colin Brady has retired - his choice
Mc Clean - don't know what injury he has at the minute?
Kelly retired - realised he was out of his depth, and while he may have  been a good club player, he doesn't have the build to play inter-county, and he's past 30 (What about his display at Croke last year when Costelloe scored 8 points off him - memorable).
Niblock is studying in England, and might return for the C'ship
CJ - talented he may be, but we are better with "men" that want to wear the shirt, rather than talk about it. A totaly 'bad' influence, and a 'bad' example to the younger generation. How's his current 'injury'?
Kevin - Kevin who? He'd get a game for the Rock - maybe.

Lets do the sums on the contribution of St. G's players during the past 2 years.
St Gal's men returned after winning Club C'ship. Assisted in winning one game in Div 3 (Louth at Casement). Lost the remaining. For those who recall - Wexford, Sligo, etc. Had a lot of 'injuries' in Div 2, and assisted in winning one match in Div 2. Then mostly retired or were 'injured'.
(St. G's have a lot of 'injuries' because they play so much football. Not like Croise, who are back training with their County within 2-3 weeks of their annual visit to Croke.)
Can we stop the chat about St. G's and leave it to their players to do the talking - if they want to.

We should have beaten R'common and / or Wexford. Fact. Maybe we are not ready to go back up - yet.
The U-21's were a credit to the County on Sunday, and it was great to see a first class team effort!
I'm not so sure about adopting the "Donegal" system, but it did release Loughrey, and Thomas Mc Cann, who did a lot of damage!
The second Gallagher is a handful, and Armstrong is 'brave', and skilfull.
I'm looking forward to seeing challenge games before the C'ship, and it was good that our team finished 'on a high' - 4 wins out of 7!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on April 09, 2012, 10:06:47 PM
By the way of assisting those who talk about Antrim games, as opposed to watching them, and who want to see the St Gall's contingent return.

Colin Brady has retired - his choice
Mc Clean - don't know what injury he has at the minute?
Kelly retired - realised he was out of his depth, and while he may have  been a good club player, he doesn't have the build to play inter-county, and he's past 30 (What about his display at Croke last year when Costelloe scored 8 points off him - memorable).
Niblock is studying in England, and might return for the C'ship
CJ - talented he may be, but we are better with "men" that want to wear the shirt, rather than talk about it. A totaly 'bad' influence, and a 'bad' example to the younger generation. How's his current 'injury'?
Kevin - Kevin who? He'd get a game for the Rock - maybe.

Lets do the sums on the contribution of St. G's players during the past 2 years.
St Gal's men returned after winning Club C'ship. Assisted in winning one game in Div 3 (Louth at Casement). Lost the remaining. For those who recall - Wexford, Sligo, etc. Had a lot of 'injuries' in Div 2, and assisted in winning one match in Div 2. Then mostly retired or were 'injured'.
(St. G's have a lot of 'injuries' because they play so much football. Not like Croise, who are back training with their County within 2-3 weeks of their annual visit to Croke.)
Can we stop the chat about St. G's and leave it to their players to do the talking - if they want to.

We should have beaten R'common and / or Wexford. Fact. Maybe we are not ready to go back up - yet.
The U-21's were a credit to the County on Sunday, and it was great to see a first class team effort!
I'm not so sure about adopting the "Donegal" system, but it did release Loughrey, and Thomas Mc Cann, who did a lot of damage!
The second Gallagher is a handful, and Armstrong is 'brave', and skilfull.
I'm looking forward to seeing challenge games before the C'ship, and it was good that our team finished 'on a high' - 4 wins out of 7!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on April 09, 2012, 10:06:47 PM

Kelly retired - realised he was out of his depth, and while he may have  been a good club player, he doesn't have the build to play inter-county, and he's past 30 (What about his display at Croke last year when Costelloe scored 8 points off him - memorable).


Horseshit - the guy was class. Class can make up for what he perhaps lacked in physical presence. When he was at a better age he was played corner back to cover up deficiencies there. As high quality a player as has played in antrim in a long time.

Did you see the Wexford game? We were a million miles of them.

It's important to be positive but we have a way to go yet.

Hard to know what the first 15 is at this point. I think we have some real good players there. I worry about the system we play - particularly surrounding the half forward line and we NEED Kevin Niblock back who played as well as any player over the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
Great to finish off the league with a comprehensive win - but does it pose more questions than answers?

We had four debutants (who all seem to have done well) and a bit more attack minded than usual seems to have paid dividends. At the minute the genuine supporters, and dare I say it, the management team as well, probably have no idea what their idea of our best team lineout is for the Monaghan game.

The league is over and we are not one inch closer to any kind of settled team.

I`d throw caution to the wind against Monaghan,and go at them as close to traditional 15 a side as possible. Best form of defence can often be attack. Put them on the back foot and all that!

And in a perfect world, Kelly and Mc Clean would be massive assets, with Niblock still the main man. The trio would bring the cockiness/assurance that is needed at this level. Put it this way - Baker has nothing to lose at this stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 15, 2012, 06:11:44 PM
St. Teresa's beat Glenavy by 2 up at St Joseph's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on April 16, 2012, 09:53:36 AM
St Pauls accounted for the rockets fairly easy a shaws road, terrible lot of bitching and complaining from both teams which otherwise spoiled what was an entertaining game, St Pauls never looked troubled at any time. Still see the big two dominating, although Lamhs could be the danger all said!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: Northern Light on April 09, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
By the way of assisting those who talk about Antrim games, as opposed to watching them, and who want to see the St Gall's contingent return.

Colin Brady has retired - his choice
Mc Clean - don't know what injury he has at the minute?
Kelly retired - realised he was out of his depth, and while he may have  been a good club player, he doesn't have the build to play inter-county, and he's past 30 (What about his display at Croke last year when Costelloe scored 8 points off him - memorable).
Niblock is studying in England, and might return for the C'ship
CJ - talented he may be, but we are better with "men" that want to wear the shirt, rather than talk about it. A totaly 'bad' influence, and a 'bad' example to the younger generation. How's his current 'injury'?
Kevin - Kevin who? He'd get a game for the Rock - maybe.

Lets do the sums on the contribution of St. G's players during the past 2 years.
St Gal's men returned after winning Club C'ship. Assisted in winning one game in Div 3 (Louth at Casement). Lost the remaining. For those who recall - Wexford, Sligo, etc. Had a lot of 'injuries' in Div 2, and assisted in winning one match in Div 2. Then mostly retired or were 'injured'.
(St. G's have a lot of 'injuries' because they play so much football. Not like Croise, who are back training with their County within 2-3 weeks of their annual visit to Croke.)
Can we stop the chat about St. G's and leave it to their players to do the talking - if they want to.
We should have beaten R'common and / or Wexford. Fact. Maybe we are not ready to go back up - yet.
The U-21's were a credit to the County on Sunday, and it was great to see a first class team effort!
I'm not so sure about adopting the "Donegal" system, but it did release Loughrey, and Thomas Mc Cann, who did a lot of damage!
The second Gallagher is a handful, and Armstrong is 'brave', and skilfull.
I'm looking forward to seeing challenge games before the C'ship, and it was good that our team finished 'on a high' - 4 wins out of 7!


Colin Brady has not retired - he just hasnt went back this year, i'm sure personal reasons have something to do with this.  And if he had retired - someone from one of the tabloids (most probably the irish news) would have latched onto it.

Sean Kelly? Agree tommygunn - NL your comments are embarassing!

Kevin McGourty is a quality footballer regardless of the bagage - not saying he should be on county panel, but credit the fella.

Your comments seem verging on personal NL.

Has Baker approached Keiran McGourty? would be an asset.  What about Karl Stewart (perhaps the best corner forward in the county)
Few lads also playing for their reserves! worth considering!!! Sean MacAreavey is a good player.

Where is Terry O Neill?  Andy McClean is fighting fit - why he not there?  Sean Burke? is he finished too?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: Northern Light on April 09, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
By the way of assisting those who talk about Antrim games, as opposed to watching them, and who want to see the St Gall's contingent return.

Colin Brady has retired - his choice
Mc Clean - don't know what injury he has at the minute?
Kelly retired - realised he was out of his depth, and while he may have  been a good club player, he doesn't have the build to play inter-county, and he's past 30 (What about his display at Croke last year when Costelloe scored 8 points off him - memorable).
Niblock is studying in England, and might return for the C'ship
CJ - talented he may be, but we are better with "men" that want to wear the shirt, rather than talk about it. A totaly 'bad' influence, and a 'bad' example to the younger generation. How's his current 'injury'?
Kevin - Kevin who? He'd get a game for the Rock - maybe.

Lets do the sums on the contribution of St. G's players during the past 2 years.
St Gal's men returned after winning Club C'ship. Assisted in winning one game in Div 3 (Louth at Casement). Lost the remaining. For those who recall - Wexford, Sligo, etc. Had a lot of 'injuries' in Div 2, and assisted in winning one match in Div 2. Then mostly retired or were 'injured'.
(St. G's have a lot of 'injuries' because they play so much football. Not like Croise, who are back training with their County within 2-3 weeks of their annual visit to Croke.)
Can we stop the chat about St. G's and leave it to their players to do the talking - if they want to.
We should have beaten R'common and / or Wexford. Fact. Maybe we are not ready to go back up - yet.
The U-21's were a credit to the County on Sunday, and it was great to see a first class team effort!
I'm not so sure about adopting the "Donegal" system, but it did release Loughrey, and Thomas Mc Cann, who did a lot of damage!
The second Gallagher is a handful, and Armstrong is 'brave', and skilfull.
I'm looking forward to seeing challenge games before the C'ship, and it was good that our team finished 'on a high' - 4 wins out of 7!


Colin Brady has not retired - he just hasnt went back this year, i'm sure personal reasons have something to do with this.  And if he had retired - someone from one of the tabloids (most probably the irish news) would have latched onto it.

Sean Kelly? Agree tommygunn - NL your comments are embarassing!

Kevin McGourty is a quality footballer regardless of the bagage - not saying he should be on county panel, but credit the fella.

Your comments seem verging on personal NL.

Has Baker approached Keiran McGourty? would be an asset.  What about Karl Stewart (perhaps the best corner forward in the county)
Few lads also playing for their reserves! worth considering!!! Sean MacAreavey is a good player.
Where is Terry O Neill?  Andy McClean is fighting fit - why he not there?  Sean Burke? is he finished too?

When was the last time you seen him play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 10:39:50 AM
Seen him play hurling last wed night (smashing hurler)

Remember watching him in beringer cup two years ago - quality! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 10:39:50 AM
Seen him play hurling last wed night (smashing hurler)

Remember watching him in beringer cup two years ago - quality! ;)

Can't have reserve players looking to get on the Antrim team FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 10:39:50 AM
Seen him play hurling last wed night (smashing hurler)

Remember watching him in beringer cup two years ago - quality! ;)

Can't have reserve players looking to get on the Antrim team FFS

Unless you are from LG MR2  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 10:39:50 AM
Seen him play hurling last wed night (smashing hurler)

Remember watching him in beringer cup two years ago - quality! ;)

Can't have reserve players looking to get on the Antrim team FFS

Unless you are from LG MR2  ;D

That's where i was going NAG1 :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 11:08:46 AM
Does the big fella Gallagher still do nets for Naomh Gall, milltown?

Can't see Kieran McGourty or Karl Stewart changing from county hurling to county football this year.
Kevin McGourty will be out for most if not all of the year with a knee injury.

Conor McGourty has recovered very well from his injury and hurled well against us the other night. I imagine he'll get a call up. Niblock will have to be brought back in after he finishes up in England (when is that though?)

Brady and Burkey - a fair shout too.

Chris Kerr did them on Sunday, think Gallagher is away. Don't know about Brady or Burkey playing again. Hope Burkey doesn't though that's just from a hurling for the club perspective ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
Which gallagher is away? Rory Gallagher and Ronan play, right?

What do posters think of the county keeper?  Best in the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 03:36:40 PM
Rory should never have got near that Galls team...living of past glories me thinks.

Karl stewart is a quality footballer and would love to see him against the countrys best footballers.

Andy getting married this year and dont think he will be allowed to play although still training hard up here at jordanstown and was immense in sigerson this year.

From i hear from the county whisperers is Baker doesnt believe he needs the st galls lads on board anyway ?

Kevin is a long way off fitness but is working hard on rehabilitaion on the falls these days ;)

CJ a big asset for any team and has matured supposedly....

Mackers could be an asset for club and needs to prove his dedication to that first......

From talking to a fw of their lads they have no interest in teh county and are concentrating solely on club football which doesnt bode well for any team hoping to knock them off their mantle.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
Whatsw wrong with MacAreeveys dedication?
Thought he was a gallsman, through and through???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on April 18, 2012, 03:10:19 PM
Fellas its bad when we're talking about a reserve players dedication.

Maybe some debate about the start of the Senior Football Leagues would be more fitting to the Antrim Football Thread?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on April 18, 2012, 05:03:21 PM
Glenavy must be worried about the local derby tonight, word out that Terry and June onto the county board giving their tuppence worth and trying to influence the powers at be, thought this type of shit had gone out with the old guard years ago, obviously not. One for MIBAG to give us the low down on if his finger is really on the pulse?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
Not a bad effort Hardstation, how good were they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Anyone hear of a certain former county (misunderstood) footballer tweeting on Friday?
If i were his club i would be none to pleased!!! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 23, 2012, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Anyone hear of a certain former county (misunderstood) footballer tweeting on Friday?
If i were his club i would be none to pleased!!! ;D

Twitter is perfect for an attention seeker like him, he announced his retirement that night on Twitter and then said he would give it another year. Phew.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 24, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
How was he treated HS?  The bits and bobs you know might give us an idea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 24, 2012, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
Got a bad injury - some fella in St. Galls made a hames of his insurance forms - club washed their hands of it - he ended up having to fork out 2 and a half grand.

Completely scandalous if you ask me.

His folks forked out the two and a half grand but your point stands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on April 24, 2012, 02:45:37 PM
Would be interesting to hear the clubs version of events. If true, its a crying shame that a player who has given so much to the club (not to mention his families input) should be treated that way. Surely they would put their hands up, admit their mistake and run a fundraiser for the fella? Wish him well in his recovery.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on April 24, 2012, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
Got a bad injury - some fella in St. Galls made a hames of his insurance forms - club washed their hands of it - he ended up having to fork out 2 and a half grand.

Completely scandalous if you ask me.

Very interesting insight to that club, explaining to me why they have been unbale to match Cross, year and year out, which they should be doing with the players they have. If a club doesn't support it players , they can't have that players full committment. You add a pile of those wee things up over a few years, it takes the fight out of a team. Didn't their manager pack it in this year over issues to the support they required from the committee to get success for the team. Their committee sounds like like a gather up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 24, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
Got a bad injury - some fella in St. Galls made a hames of his insurance forms - club washed their hands of it - he ended up having to fork out 2 and a half grand.

Completely scandalous if you ask me.

Wow, find that hard to believe - but there it is.  A club of their stature too.  Considering whta they have managed in the past - any galls men shed any light?
Mate showed me bits and pieces on the twitt! Dont quite know what to make of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 03:34:57 PM
I'd say the rock bar have received more than that from him in the past lot of months....if he had spent it in his own club then they would be able to pay for it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 24, 2012, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on April 24, 2012, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
Got a bad injury - some fella in St. Galls made a hames of his insurance forms - club washed their hands of it - he ended up having to fork out 2 and a half grand.

Completely scandalous if you ask me.

Very interesting insight to that club, explaining to me why they have been unbale to match Cross, year and year out, which they should be doing with the players they have. If a club doesn't support it players , they can't have that players full committment. You add a pile of those wee things up over a few years, it takes the fight out of a team. Didn't their manager pack it in this year over issues to the support they required from the committee to get success for the team. Their committee sounds like like a gather up

know a bit more than the post suggestsMM ?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 04:15:32 PM
Aye but HS that is where you and a few others have fallen foul of the assumption that I am a St Galls man. I never once said I was. Just because I called their match the way i seen it people assumed I was a Galls man. Assumptions can get you in trouble.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2012, 04:20:14 PM
Epic Fail
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
Very good HS, good to see you taken an interest in me but you should know not to believe everything you read   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 24, 2012, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 03:34:57 PM
I'd say the rock bar have received more than that from him in the past lot of months....if he had spent it in his own club then they would be able to pay for it ?

He was barred from the Galls club for a period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 05:02:57 PM
Wasn't aware of that, what was that for?.
Seem to be taken this a bit personal HS.  And what did you mean by mickey mc neill?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation link=topic ::)=21.msg1104684#msg1104684 date=1335281552
Whatever you say. You try and keep up with your own lies then please.

Quote from: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 04:15:32 PM
Aye but HS that is where you and a few others have fallen foul of the assumption that I am a St Galls man. I never once said I was.
::)

Funny as fcuk, noticed he had galls as club!! School boy error. Bit like that other nob who says hes from bredagh!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron89 on April 24, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation link=topic ::)=21.msg1104684#msg1104684 date=1335281552
Whatever you say. You try and keep up with your own lies then please.

Quote from: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 04:15:32 PM
Aye but HS that is where you and a few others have fallen foul of the assumption that I am a St Galls man. I never once said I was.
::)

Funny as fcuk, noticed he had galls as club!! School boy error. Bit like that other nob who says hes from bredagh!!

i certainly would hope you aren't referring to a down legend like myself. :o  Am a bredagh man, but have been at another club.  I certainly wouldn't like to be lumped into the same bracket has that clampet above i.e. St Galls bracket. :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 08:17:16 PM
The amount of wum's that come on claiming to be from one club and clearly not is ridiculous!! Im from this club now but was from another  :o Im from Down but support antrim. I go to Gall's hurling matches  ;D ;D

If your embarrased about you're own club then that's fine, dont bother embarrassing some other club ya eejit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
Got a bad injury - some fella in St. Galls made a hames of his insurance forms - club washed their hands of it - he ended up having to fork out 2 and a half grand.

Completely scandalous if you ask me.

That's badly handled. Can the GPA be of no assistance in a case like this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
And you're not taken this personally HS? Ummm. And all after only hearing one side of the story. Surprising or is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
So st galls need to catch a f**king grip because of what exactly? Something you heard? Thought being a GAA man you'd wait to hear both sides of story before having a pop at another club. Think you need to catch yourself on
I never said I wasn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2012, 10:47:30 PM
I don't know it tbh but always 2 sides to every story but the same way you wouldn't comment on the wing rumour until you knew the facts I will wait to hear both sides of the story before given my opinion. Just a thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 12:44:26 AM
Wow. And you're not taking this personally. Right. As you well know there is always 2 sides to every story and I was merely pointing that out because to date we have only heard one side of the story and that was from the person who is feeling aggrieved. Just thought it might be wise to hear both sides before having a snipe at another club. You clearly don't agree which is your perogative but no point getting urself wound up over it. To make a statement like"st galls need to catch a f**king grip" based purely on hear say and without hearing both sides of the story is a bit premature and cheap. But that is just my opinion. Sorry if that annoys you HS. Mind that blood pressure. The rock bar comment was a little joke, something you seem too wound up to appreciate. Me thinks you maybe have a soft spot for the person in question which is admireable and sweet but don't let it cloud your judgement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 25, 2012, 10:03:36 AM
Ok, try this one - was chattin to a galls man this morning.
The other side of the story might look a bit like this.  It seems this is linked MM comments also i.e the bit about him 'thinking' their manager resigned.  Did he really?

You cant claim an injury in a match, if your club have not been informed the match is taking place!!!

Will ask about the M.Mc Neil thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 10:34:19 AM
Don't think I have said anything wrong since joining the board. And for what its worth if it does inspire that everything that has been said is true then, dare I say it, I will totally agree with you but as I said it is from experience that there is always 2 sides to the story. Sometimes they are the same and sometimes they are different but still always 2 sides. Until I hear both though I will hold my opinions back. And it seems already that Dearyme might have heard another story already which backs up my point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 10:44:58 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 25, 2012, 10:03:36 AM
Ok, try this one - was chattin to a galls man this morning.
The other side of the story might look a bit like this.  It seems this is linked MM comments also i.e the bit about him 'thinking' their manager resigned.  Did he really?

You cant claim an injury in a match, if your club have not been informed the match is taking place!!!

Will ask about the M.Mc Neil thing.

If this is the case the insurance would not pay out because the match would not have been officially sanctioned by the club and therefore not covered by insurance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 10:50:17 AM
I never mentioned my club. You brought it up and have been engrossed with it ever since. Change the record. So no comments to make on these latest revelations HS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 25, 2012, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 10:50:17 AM
I never mentioned my club. You brought it up and have been engrossed with it ever since. Change the record. So no comments to make on these latest revelations HS?
Yes, you did!! On your profile you wrote your club as St. Gall's. Jesus Christ.......

As for this latest revelation, I don't fully comprehend it. What type of match was it that the club wasn't aware of it?

I'd imagine a football match  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 10:58:20 AM
Well reading between the lines, if the club didnt sanction it, it must have been a friendly or a tournament game or some other type of non regulated game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 11:01:05 AM
Technically in my understand if it was a game at training that would be covered, as it is official club training.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 11:06:39 AM
In what sense, I think it is pretty clear HS, If a player is injured at official club training (be that a training game inside of the training or in a drill) and is a paid up member he is covered by insurance, if however he plays in a game which the club dont know about or havent officially sanctioned through Ulster council etc as per regulations then he would not be covered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 11:35:32 AM
Haven't spoke to Kevin about it nor do I want to get involved with it.

Having managed and refereed in the past there are certain things that have to be done in this day and age that would not have been done before.

Any challenge games must be sanctioned beforehand, meaning the manager has to tell the club Sec. that they are playing a match and venue. They also have to get an official referee to cover the game, again this is for insurance reasons.

If this is the case (I dont know) then Kevin would not have been covered along with the rest of the players. Could common sense be used in this case? £2500 is a fair amount of money to pay out.

What way is it meant to work and what do you get for it? Never had to use it so I wouldn't know.

Do you pay it yourself and the the club claim money back and give it to you? Does the club pay for it and then claim it back? does this include physio and after treatments (rehabilitation)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 11:42:36 AM
I would say this would vary from club to club, I know of some clubs who take the hit make the payments for Operation and associated Physio costs and then this is claimed back by the club at the end of the injury period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 25, 2012, 11:45:22 AM
Was unaware training sessions were covered - but seems obvious really.

Said injury happened in a challenge match (or did it?)

Anyways - my original post about the twitt (social network site), i couldnt possibly support public comments like that from any of my club men.
I hope for galls sake he removes them, seems a shame really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 12:33:32 PM
From my understanding of it, training sessions are covered as our challenge games as long as all the I's have been dotted and t's crossed that MR highlighted. I'm not sure though if physio costs are covered or maybe only a percentage of them. I believe it also only covers a certain % of lost income . From I hear its not a great scheme and I think players can get a much better personal insurance policy for a few pound a week. I think the problem with a lot of clubs especially in todays financial climate is that they can't afford to pay out thousands of pounds at once and wait months to get it back months later. A bit of a shambles really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
Its a great scheme if used by the club correctly and efficiently, especially in the case of operation/ physio costs.

Not so good on the loss of earnings but as has been stated players should cover themselves for this with private insurance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 25, 2012, 01:05:31 PM
Physio costs haven't been covered for a few years now (apart from post-operative treatment) as people were ripping the piss out of claims .  Other limits / benefits: http://www.willis.com/sites/ireland/gaa/is_benefits.htm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on April 25, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
There was strong hint alleging  that the injury occurred while representing DCU, however they had enough funding/injury expenses and the lad was encouraged to go North quietly? Too much cloak and dagger around this one, suppose as always in the GAA nothing stays secret for too long :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
Again we are on the rumour mill train, lets not get into this and maybe talk about football, county and club. Club games going rightly and we have had 2 wins in a row, while not playing well but encouraging that we have done so with players who have been on the fringes of the senior team.

Great time to bring players in on the senior team and hope that they can be regulars and winners in Championship over the next few years. These young lads have known nothing but big days at Casement and beyond and hopefully that will drive them on to have a piece of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on April 25, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
U heading to the town tonight MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on April 25, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
U heading to the town tonight MR2

Yes, for my sins, seems Carey's pitch is under development. Ballycastle's is a fine pitch, so happy days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron89 on April 25, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on April 25, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
U heading to the town tonight MR2

Yes, for my sins, seems Carey's pitch is under development. Ballycastle's is a fine pitch, so happy days.

do you have to go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 25, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on April 25, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
U heading to the town tonight MR2

Yes, for my sins, seems Carey's pitch is under development. Ballycastle's is a fine pitch, so happy days.

do you have to go?

Yeah I went, I only made it for half time as they were charging in ;) barfly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 27, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
CJ McGourty not fit enough for championship but Kevin Niblock is?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/17852025

Antrim boss Bradley rules out CJ McGourty return for SFC

Antrim manager Liam Bradley will not be recalling CJ McGourty to the Saffrons squad for the Ulster SFC. The forward recently returned to action for club side St Gall's after breaking a bone in a leg while playing for UUJ in the McKenna Cup in January. However, Bradley believes McGourty is not fit enough for the championship. "CJ McGourty is not part of our plans - as far as we would be concerned, he would not be capable of playing county football at the minute," said Bradley.

Antrim take on Monaghan in the Ulster SFC first round in Clones on 27 May.   English-based student Kevin Niblock will be the Antrim squad but a lack of games means he will not be a starter.   "We have to be sensible. He has played just one friendly for his club, and that was when St Gall's played against Slaughtneil a few weeks ago," Bradley told the Irish News.   Paddy Cunningham has recovered from a knee injury and is expected to be in the line-up to face Monaghan.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 27, 2012, 04:55:50 PM
CJ McGourty not fit enough for championship but Kevin Niblock is?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/17852025

Antrim boss Bradley rules out CJ McGourty return for SFC

Antrim manager Liam Bradley will not be recalling CJ McGourty to the Saffrons squad for the Ulster SFC. The forward recently returned to action for club side St Gall's after breaking a bone in a leg while playing for UUJ in the McKenna Cup in January. However, Bradley believes McGourty is not fit enough for the championship. "CJ McGourty is not part of our plans - as far as we would be concerned, he would not be capable of playing county football at the minute," said Bradley.

Antrim take on Monaghan in the Ulster SFC first round in Clones on 27 May.   English-based student Kevin Niblock will be the Antrim squad but a lack of games means he will not be a starter.   "We have to be sensible. He has played just one friendly for his club, and that was when St Gall's played against Slaughtneil a few weeks ago," Bradley told the Irish News.   Paddy Cunningham has recovered from a knee injury and is expected to be in the line-up to face Monaghan.

Sure he's hurling and footballing for the club, plenty there to keep him busy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 27, 2012, 08:20:18 PM
The refs are in for a hard time, in that case!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 11:35:20 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on April 27, 2012, 08:20:18 PM
The refs are in for a hard time, in that case!

he's quietened down now ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 29, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2012, 07:31:32 PM
Heading to Croke Park tomorrow. Anyone heading to our game against St. Galls and could give a run down? Not expecting much but hope we put up a decent fight.

Galls 1-21 Rossa 0-7

Galls wont be stopped this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
Leagues mean nowt, the boys are strangely training hard for this time of the year. New manager has them fighting for places which is great.

So hopefully we will win the championship again this year, which is nice  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Interesting on April 29, 2012, 09:09:31 PM
Anyone know what happened after the Lamh Dearg Cargin melee last year? Like how many players mentors suspended etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 02, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
Creagán v St Bridgid's   
Achadh Eochaille v Lamh Dhearg   
Cargin v St.Gall's
St Pauls  v St John's
Rossa v Rasharkin

Predictions
Creggan (draw)
Lamhs
Galls (tight one)
Johns
Rossa (first win)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 12:42:15 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 02, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
Creagán v St Bridgid's   
Achadh Eochaille v Lamh Dhearg   
Cargin v St.Gall's
St Pauls  v St John's
Rossa v Rasharkin

Predictions
Creggan (draw)
Lamhs
Galls (tight one)
Johns
Rossa (first win)

We very rarely win down in Cargin, so a Cargin win for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on May 02, 2012, 04:51:26 PM
Predictions
Brigids +1
Lamhs +5
Cargin +3
Johns +3
Rossa +3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Move er on on May 02, 2012, 08:09:59 PM

Creagán v St Bridgid's   
Achadh Eochaille v Lamh Dhearg   
Cargin v St.Gall's
St Pauls  v St John's
Rossa v Rasharkin

For what it's worth

Creggan +2
ahoghill  +3
Cargin +5
St johns +3
Rasharkin +1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on May 02, 2012, 10:11:11 PM
Creggan 1-14  0-06 St Bridgid's   
Achadh Eochaille 1-08 2-15 Lamh Dhearg   
Cargin 1-09 1-12 St.Gall's
St Pauls  0-13 0-12 St John's
Rossa 1-12 2-11 Rasharkin

Good win for St Pauls and I thought Cargin might beat St Galls by a point or 2. Good win for Rasharkin too, I can imagine points will be hard to come by for them this year. Big wins for Lamh Dhearg and Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 10:12:50 PM
Starnge result for us, we don't win too many league games down there, a lot of players out to ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Move er on on May 02, 2012, 10:13:49 PM
Galls looking ominous!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 03, 2012, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: Move er on on May 02, 2012, 10:13:49 PM
Galls looking ominous!

Early days, but as MR2 said its not often they go there and win!
St.Galls team anyone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 03, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
1 cabbage
2 sean muldoon
3 seamus mc gouran
4 the brit ( whoever he is)  5 peter stewart.                  6 mickey gribben.             7 ciaran smyth.              8 paddy murray.              9 sean mc gourty.            10 some black fella.          11 lenny somebody.           12 cosy.                     13 nipper quinn.             14 Pj.                       15 darren mc keown.            Some experience there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 09:22:08 PM
Paddy murray couldn't run the length of himself!! Nigger higgins at number 10?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 03, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
Not sure its PC to use that word anymore MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 09, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
Cargin -St Mary's Rasharkin
St Pauls  -Achadh Eochaille
St Bridgid's  -O`Donovan Rossa   
St John's -Naomh Gall   
Lamh Dhearg - Cregan


Predictions everyone?

Cargin by 5
Pauls by 2
Bridgids by 3
Galls by 8
Lamhs by 5

Fancy galls to hit john's when theyre down!
Pauls to continue after result against Johnnies
Cargin to get result after last weeks defeat
Brids to beat a poor Rossa - but not that poor!
Lamhs to win (kickhams are all over the place!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 09, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 08:55:43 PM
That poor Rossa was that poor. Grim stuff.

About 4-14 to 0-10

Crazy results this year

Any other scores from tonight's games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 09, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
St johns 1-06 st galls 1-10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 10, 2012, 09:09:28 AM
Carragan 1-16 1-6 St Mary's Rasharkin   
St Pauls GAC 0-8 1-6 Achadh Eochaille     
St Bridgid's Belfast 4-14 0-10 O`Donovan Rossa   
St John's GAC 1-6 1-10 Naomh Gall
Lamh Dhearg 2-8 0-7 Creagán
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on May 10, 2012, 05:10:54 PM
Noticed the Champioinship Panel was put up on the county website. Basically as is from the national league, had hoped a few more St. Galls boys would have made themselves available. Shame.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 10, 2012, 09:56:20 PM
Bradley doesn't need them anyway and thinks antrim are better without them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2012, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 10, 2012, 09:56:20 PM
Bradley doesn't need them anyway and thinks antrim are better without them
Think he was up at Cargin the other night and was happy enough with the performance of his county players that night :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 11, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
I thought he had said that Kevin Niblock would be part of the Championship squad??  Not named on the Co Board website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
New this would pop up again sometime - tried to ask it months ago, and no one really interested.

Sean Burk
Sean Kelly
Terry O Neill
even Terrys brother ffs
Cj McGourty
Keiran McGourty?
Paul Veronica still playing?
Colm Brady
And yes Kevin Niblock
What about Pollock?

I mean, all of them ffs!!

Wonder the local tabloid and certain irresponsible journalists havent picked up on it?

Would be way stronger. And youre right Hardsdstation - 5 Johnies men??????? how can that be?
Whole thing doesnt make sense! 
And i have just remembered Andy McLean????

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Them beds in Waterfoot are wile hard.

And the rooms are wile cold.

And my girl's over from England for the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
and another thing...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
New this would pop up again sometime - tried to ask it months ago, and no one really interested.

Sean Burk
Sean Kelly
Terry O Neill
even Terrys brother ffs
Cj McGourty
Keiran McGourty?
Paul Veronica still playing?
Colm Brady
And yes Kevin Niblock
What about Pollock?

I mean, all of them ffs!!

Wonder the local tabloid and certain irresponsible journalists havent picked up on it?

Would be way stronger. And youre right Hardsdstation - 5 Johnies men??????? how can that be?
Whole thing doesnt make sense! 
And i have just remembered Andy McLean????

The players are not interested, leave it at that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 02:11:26 PM
Ok leave it at that - and just ignore reasons why!

Thats about right!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 02:11:26 PM
Ok leave it at that - and just ignore reasons why!

Thats about right!

They don't want to play for Antrim, think that is obvious, if they wanted to, most of your list would be available. Are you dishing dirt on reasons why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 11, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
Don't want to play county football. Some ambition there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on May 11, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
Don't want to play county football. Some ambition there.

They have played for Antrim for many years, through good times and a lot more bad times, put a hell of a lot more effort into Antrim football than you. Very easy to snipe behind that name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Gees MR it's a discussion board.

Why do they not want to play? Do they think Bradley is not the right man for the job? Do they think that there's not enough talent in antrim to do anything so think it's a waste of time? Do they think it will impact st galls chances of putting another challenge in on ulster?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 03:02:30 PM
Ask them, saying they lack ambition is well off the mark. Work, marriage, loads of reasons im sure, but lack of ambition isnt one of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 03:06:53 PM
I don't know any of them so I'll hardly be asking them.

It's unlikely that all of them have the same circumstances so you wonder is there a general belief or agreement held by all of them. There's feasibly another 7 or 8 boys you could plug in there. Strange that so many aren't available all at once.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 03:26:00 PM
But still 3 lads playing for the county and one the captain, so it's not Galls thing not to play for the county, otherwise we wouldn't have any players playing football and hurling for the county.

Their reasons are solely their own, we can speculate/debate as to the reason but I doubt even if Bradley was not the manager that these lads would not have played this year anyway. Kelly stepped down ages ago, doubt Terry was asked, Burkey in final year studying, McLean getting married and injured early on I think. Keiran hurling for County, Pollock in England? Niblock injured? CJ not picked. If they aren't good enough reasons then I don't know.

CJ is flying for the club at both codes early on and long may it continue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on May 11, 2012, 04:04:01 PM
Thought Niblock would be back but been in England for the year and maybe too far behind in terms of training but would nearly expect to see him back at some stage. Andy McClean is the big one not there for me, thought his injuries had cleared up but maybe not.
Would love to see CJ back but it's hardly a secret he and Baker don't get on, I would imagine therein lies the reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on May 11, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
I admire you backing your clubmen MR2.

My problem is that the majority of what you call reasons, I call excuses. I could give you countless examples of players carrying injuries, studying abroad, studying for finals, getting married who have played county football. Lets call a spade a spade here the majority mentioned just don't want to play. That for me is the real shame. Here we have the best footballing club that will ever play in Antrim and we have 4 (assuming Niblock returns) players making themselves available for Championship. Kevin Madden was one of the best players I ever saw playing for Antrim, I imagine given all he went though the thought of boys just not caring enough to turn up must be soul destroying. As the wise man says though build a bridge and get over it.

Best to worry about those who still care and as SS2 alluded to worry we might.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Them beds in Waterfoot are wile hard.

And the rooms are wile cold.

And my girl's over from England for the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on May 11, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
I admire you backing your clubmen MR2.

My problem is that the majority of what you call reasons, I call excuses. I could give you countless examples of players carrying injuries, studying abroad, studying for finals, getting married who have played county football. Lets call a spade a spade here the majority mentioned just don't want to play. That for me is the real shame. Here we have the best footballing club that will ever play in Antrim and we have 4 (assuming Niblock returns) players making themselves available for Championship. Kevin Madden was one of the best players I ever saw playing for Antrim, I imagine given all he went though the thought of boys just not caring enough to turn up must be soul destroying. As the wise man says though build a bridge and get over it.

Best to worry about those who still care and as SS2 alluded to worry we might.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Them beds in Waterfoot are wile hard.

And the rooms are wile cold.

And my girl's over from England for the weekend.

And you know this because? Excuses/reasons? Now you are talking shite. Get over your silly jealousy's please, Baker was in Cargin the other night to see a poor (by their standards) Galls team beat Cargin, plenty of players on show for him to pick from. He didn't.

Any players carrying injuries into championship will be doing Antrim no favours. Any lads that stepped out to complete exams is down to them, of course you'd rather have a failed student than a failed Antrim player. As I have said before, they owe Antrim nothing, they have put in more effort to Antrim football than you, should they not play for their own reasons/excuses then that's down to them.

As for SS2, he should lay of the Jammie dodgers. Steak Knife tells some yarns :o, he'll be saying they aren't playing for Antrim cause Baker is useless, I mean, a Derry man FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 04:53:34 PM
MR you're sounding as bad as them Loughiel boys now.

Is it not valid to suggest that one boy played through heart problems and some other boys have this that and the other going on, none of which are as serious as Madden's issue, so the level of commitment wouldn't be as great?

For so many to have backed out at one time I find odd and to me it would seem like something more going on than these reasons / excuses.

None of the above is that unreasonable.

Maybe we could be wrong fair enough but questioning it hardly makes people jealous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on May 11, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
Think you have got the wrong end of the stick there MR2. How do I know they don't want to play for Antrim? Probably the same way you do.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 02:11:26 PM
Ok leave it at that - and just ignore reasons why!

Thats about right!

They don't want to play for Antrim, think that is obvious, if they wanted to, most of your list would be available. Are you dishing dirt on reasons why?

Thats it though you have me pegged, just a jealous basterd who wants every young'un to fail exams for the Antrim cause. To quote a phrase 'wind yer neck in'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
Of the list, neither of the McGourtys were asked. Nor was McLean. Ridiculous.
Burke, O'Neill, Veronica and Pollock not good enough
Niblock in England but available.
Kelly not interested, but still better than any other option.
Don't know with Brady.

Butterknife told me this over a few biscuits.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 link=topic=21.msg1109992#msg1109992
As for SS2, he should lay of the Jammie dodgers. Steak Knife tells some yarns :o, he'll be saying they aren't playing for Antrim cause Baker is useless, I mean, a Derry man FFS

A Derry man not considered good enough to manage Derry. Think about it - you'll get there. Two fs in that off, by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 05:07:55 PM

Burke, O'Neill, Veronica and Pollock not good enough
Niblock in England but available.

Them 4 boys are good enough based on what we have at our disposal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
Unfortunately it could maybe be the reverse of ambiton but I wouldn't be listening too much to that comment.

I think most people will be surprised if st galls don't win the championship easy this year.  You could arguably put any of their players on the panel - though "only" 6 or so should make the team.

To see them with 3 is disappointing as it makes us a lot weaker than we could be.

I have defended clubmen on here with PMs by the way. They're unlikely to get the press your club do though as slightly less successful :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
Unfortunately it could maybe be the reverse of ambiton but I wouldn't be listening too much to that comment.

I think most people will be surprised if st galls don't win the championship easy this year.  You could arguably put any of their players on the panel - though "only" 6 or so should make the team.

To see them with 3 is disappointing as it makes us a lot weaker than we could be.

I have defended clubmen on here with PMs by the way. They're unlikely to get the press your club do though as slightly less successful :(

I don't think anyone would disagree that we'd be a better team with all our (all clubs) best players on the team. But that's the way it goes, as a manager before, I couldn't get all our best players playing for the team, there are clubs up and down the country that have that problem.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 11, 2012, 06:11:05 PM
Maybe it is Baker who has the problem with St Galls boys ?
Rumour that one of the Galls boys walked in on Baker talking about them behind their backs, the straw that broke the camels back me thinks but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 11, 2012, 07:02:28 PM
Baker is just an eggitt, shud have gone 2 years ago and we should have had the sense to get someone in quicker, the rot has now set in and looks to be permanent! Did you read the county guestbook about the Referee decision in the Div4 game, just confirms what Ive be saying for donkey's about the majority of our average referee's poor and need the work, county and referee's committee not prepared to put their ass in a cramp and education on the rules non existent, sorry to say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2012, 05:07:55 PM

Burke, O'Neill, Veronica and Pollock not good enough
Niblock in England but available.

Them 4 boys are good enough based on what we have at our disposal.

Outside Burke none would make the 24 for a championship match. Burke would be a sub.

Ironically Pollock joined St Gall's partly to further his county career.

MR2, can't see Baker ever getting the Derry gig - that's from people who know much more than me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2012, 07:09:46 PM
I don't agree with you there SS2. We are very limited at corner back and Veronica would be a good addition there. You're maybe right on Pollock but O'Neill is as decent as what we've got , bar Tomas McCann, at wing forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on May 11, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
Just to clarify I never once suggested they don't have ambition, an alltogether ridiculous statement given their aspirations to win All Ireland medals every year.  I merely pointed out (like you) that the majority don't want to be there. The rest are not there at the managers behest and I think both instances are unfortunate for Antrim. On the bright side we are having some humdinger games between ourselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2012, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on May 11, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
Just to clarify I never once suggested they don't have ambition, an alltogether ridiculous statement given their aspirations to win All Ireland medals every year.  I merely pointed out (like you) that the majority don't want to be there. The rest are not there at the managers behest and I think both instances are unfortunate for Antrim. On the bright side we are having some humdinger games between ourselves.

I stated this:

Did I say that their commitment was not as great as Kevin Maddens? If you want to start a thread on the level of commitment of Kevin Madden then I'd be the first to say the lad was a outstanding servant to Antrim football.

I stated reasons/excuses, neither of them, am I sure is the reason as to why they were not playing/picked for Antrim. My gripe was that another poster not you, and to an extent subterranean saffron, who questioned lacking ambition. I don't mind having a go at clubmen, have done in the past and will continue to do so.

Not you but Samba saff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 11, 2012, 08:18:12 PM
AHHHHHH Jesus I may get the caks on, forgot about meeting the county stars at 7.30 in casement, hope theres tea and sarnies ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on May 12, 2012, 05:04:48 PM
To say sean burke isnt good enough for county football is beyond me, as i stood and watched him up at our place the other night take one of our county players (Simon McDonagh) to the cleaners in midfield. all the st galls players you mentioned would no doubt make us a better force whether people like it or not. i think the problem lays with baker, having his fallouts with the mc gourtys and becoming too close to some of the boys who play for the clubs who rival st galls and rumour has it he has never got over St Galls defeating glenullin in an ulster club semi final the year before he took the antrim job, where he also allegedly punched cj mc gourty. If we are to go forward as a county, then we need our best players it is simple as that. our best players are from st galls as they have been county champions the past 10 years as much as it pains me to admit it as a johnnies man through and through. mc lean, brady, sean kelly, veronica, burke, o neill, niblock, all 3 mc gourtys, pollock and stewart. might not all start but having watched them dismantle us with 14 men for the entire second half, they could and should be on the panel. having seen the panel announced for the Championship, im hopeful we can turn monaghan over!

we have a big game tomorrow to get our season back on track after the farce of a management walked out!
Whack For a Diddle!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
Seems at the request of the County football management they have called off the football games this Wed night in preparation for the Monaghan game.

That game is not till the 27th of May!!! Cotton wool out early for that one

Who was managing Simon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 12, 2012, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on May 12, 2012, 05:04:48 PM
To say sean burke isnt good enough for county football is beyond me, as i stood and watched him up at our place the other night take one of our county players (Simon McDonagh) to the cleaners in midfield. all the st galls players you mentioned would no doubt make us a better force whether people like it or not. i think the problem lays with baker, having his fallouts with the mc gourtys and becoming too close to some of the boys who play for the clubs who rival st galls and rumour has it he has never got over St Galls defeating glenullin in an ulster club semi final the year before he took the antrim job, where he also allegedly punched cj mc gourty. If we are to go forward as a county, then we need our best players it is simple as that. our best players are from st galls as they have been county champions the past 10 years as much as it pains me to admit it as a johnnies man through and through. mc lean, brady, sean kelly, veronica, burke, o neill, niblock, all 3 mc gourtys, pollock and stewart. might not all start but having watched them dismantle us with 14 men for the entire second half, they could and should be on the panel. having seen the panel announced for the Championship, im hopeful we can turn monaghan over!

we have a big game tomorrow to get our season back on track after the farce of a management walked out!
Whack For a Diddle!

Who was the management team? What happened?

Who's in now as manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 13, 2012, 08:29:24 PM
I believe eamonn blayney was the manager and walked after a bit of unrest and lack of commitment within the changing room$ no outsider will survive there let alone their own
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 13, 2012, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 13, 2012, 08:29:24 PM
I believe eamonn blayney was the manager and walked after a bit of unrest and lack of commitment within the changing room$ no outsider will survive there let alone their own

Did Niall Ward not join them to manage them>? Or is that completely wrong?

Very hard to get total commitment if keep losing year on year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: samboswig on May 14, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
The big legend that was Ray McDonnell Snr passed away last night surrounded by his family. Belfast, Rossa and Antrim is a lesser place for it.

A winner of multiple county championships as both a player and manager, former manager of the county and patriarch of a remarkable family.

RIP Big Cas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 14, 2012, 09:39:46 AM
Ah, sad news.  A real character.  RIP.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 15, 2012, 01:30:40 PM
Ray Mc Donnell
A great man who will be  a great loss to his great family and the GAA.

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 15, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
Anyone see the the best Antrim team in the Independent newspaper?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 15, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: glens abu on May 15, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
Anyone see the the best Antrim team in the Independent newspaper?

What was the team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2012, 02:32:54 PM
Dare we ask who it was compiled by?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 15, 2012, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2012, 09:46:46 PM
Niall Ward is playing for them alright.

Much is he getting paid this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 15, 2012, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 15, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: glens abu on May 15, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
Anyone see the the best Antrim team in the Independent newspaper?

What was the team?

Didn't see it, but apparently it included Mick McCann, Loughrey and Crozier of the current lot, McGreevy and Kevin Madden from the recent past and Aidan Hamill, Andy McCallin and Donal Laverty from further back.

Will try to find out the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2012, 11:15:48 PM
Sean McGreevey
Ciaran Hammill
Jim McCorry
Justin Crozier
James Loughrey
Patsy Totten
Donal Laverty
Tony McAtamney
John Kiernan
Michael McCann
Gerard McCann
Donal Laverty
Andy McCallin
Kevin Madden
Aidan Hamill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
Only pay a passing interest to the footballers but would Crozier be as good as that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 07:49:33 AM
Hes better than Sean Kelly according to that!! Obviously a team picked by someone with a dislike of Naomh Gall :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2012, 11:15:48 PM
Sean McGreevey
Ciaran Hammill
Jim McCorry
Justin Crozier
James Loughrey
Patsy Totten
Donal Laverty
Tony McAtamney
John Kiernan
Michael McCann
Gerard McCann
Donal Laverty
Andy McCallin
Kevin Madden
Aidan Hamill

So good they named him twice.
Assume it's John McKiernan at midfield.

Quote from: Minder on May 15, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
Only pay a passing interest to the footballers but would Crozier be as good as that?

No.

I think JP O'Kane, Alex McQuillan and Bap Armstrong should be certs and I wouldn't have argued had Kelly or Martin Mulholland been picked.

No room for either Lynn brother, Lynchbhoy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
Justin Crozier to me is still a  bit of an enigma. For a boy that would have been getting college all stars, winning sigersons etc. I would have hoped for a lot more from. I think he's still relatively young and will come good but I wouldn't have him in a best 15 ever. Definitely one of our better players but not a best 15 ever - I think he needs to be put into a settled position and stick there.

Loughrey probably could do with a few more years too.

The past ones would be hard to argue with mind. Alec McQuillan and boys like that would probably merit places on it.

Which Kelly SS2?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 16, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2012, 11:15:48 PM
Sean McGreevey
Ciaran Hammill
Jim McCorry
Justin Crozier
James Loughrey
Patsy Totten
Donal Laverty
Tony McAtamney
John Kiernan
Michael McCann
Gerard McCann
Donal Laverty
Andy McCallin
Kevin Madden
Aidan Hamill

So good they named him twice.
Assume it's John McKiernan at midfield.

Quote from: Minder on May 15, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
Only pay a passing interest to the footballers but would Crozier be as good as that?

No.

I think JP O'Kane, Alex McQuillan and Bap Armstrong should be certs and I wouldn't have argued had Kelly or Martin Mulholland been picked.

No room for either Lynn brother, Lynchbhoy.

Yeah would agree with that would also think room for John Burns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
Justin Crozier to me is still a  bit of an enigma. For a boy that would have been getting college all stars, winning sigersons etc. I would have hoped for a lot more from. I think he's still relatively young and will come good but I wouldn't have him in a best 15 ever. Definitely one of our better players but not a best 15 ever - I think he needs to be put into a settled position and stick there.

Loughrey probably could do with a few more years too.

The past ones would be hard to argue with mind. Alec McQuillan and boys like that would probably merit places on it.

Which Kelly SS2?

Sean, although I feel he didn't fulfill his potential in the saffron jersey. Would probably have a half back line with three from four Kelly, Laverty, McQuillan and Charlie McStravick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2012, 12:01:24 PM
Ah yes of course.

I would tend to agree. I think in his better years we played him at corner back which didn't suit him then when he was out and came back he was shipped around so never got the best from him. For St Galls his displays at half back were as good as anyyou'd see.

For some reason I had in my head you meant John Kelly - played for st johns if I remember correctly.

Laverty is before my time, I think, so don't know much about him. The rest I wouldn't disagree with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on May 16, 2012, 12:12:31 PM
For me Alex Mc Quillian is a cert. What about Stephen Mulvenna, only man in Antrim with a senior county football winners medal, also played for Ulster. Paul Mc erlean was another , but had a short career. Any Galls men ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Probably no Naomh Galls men due to the fact we played as a team over the years as opposed to teams having star stand out individuals.

In the early eighties we competed in two Ulster Finals (winning one) and in the past 11 years we have done alright in that department also, but being successful at club level has probably had a bad knock on affect with the County set up. If you ask ten different people you'll get ten different teams.

Who compiled this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Probably no Naomh Galls men due to the fact we played as a team over the years as opposed to teams having star stand out individuals.

In the early eighties we competed in two Ulster Finals (winning one) and in the past 11 years we have done alright in that department also, but being successful at club level has probably had a bad knock on affect with the County set up. If you ask ten different people you'll get ten different teams.

Who compiled this?

Exactly the same problem Crossmaglen and Armagh have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Probably no Naomh Galls men due to the fact we played as a team over the years as opposed to teams having star stand out individuals.

In the early eighties we competed in two Ulster Finals (winning one) and in the past 11 years we have done alright in that department also, but being successful at club level has probably had a bad knock on affect with the County set up. If you ask ten different people you'll get ten different teams.

Who compiled this?

Exactly the same problem Crossmaglen and Armagh have.

I was trying to be smart :o

(Must work harder)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 09:29:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Probably no Naomh Galls men due to the fact we played as a team over the years as opposed to teams having star stand out individuals.

In the early eighties we competed in two Ulster Finals (winning one) and in the past 11 years we have done alright in that department also, but being successful at club level has probably had a bad knock on affect with the County set up. If you ask ten different people you'll get ten different teams.

Who compiled this?

Exactly the same problem Crossmaglen and Armagh have.

I was trying to be smart :o

(Must work harder)

I thought you would use the dual player line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on May 16, 2012, 11:33:44 PM
McErlean played for 11 seasons. hardly a short career.

Mulvenna? no way. Looked the part, contributed little.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: acton1 on May 17, 2012, 03:56:22 PM
Andy McCallin, Micky Darragh, Kevin Madden and CJ McGourty the only top drawer Antrim forwards in the last 40 yesrs. 

Only top class players of current era are CJ and Kevin McGourty and Aodhan Gallagher - Fact!

Apologies to:-

JP O'Kane
Kevin Gough
Pat Armstrong
J McKiernaqn
Frank fitzsimmons
Gerry Mc Cann
Justin Crozier
James Loughrey
Donal Laverty
Tony McAtamney
Michael McCann
Aidan Hammll

not necessarily in that order
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
What are you apologising for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 17, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: acton1 on May 17, 2012, 03:56:22 PM
Andy McCallin, Micky Darragh, Kevin Madden and CJ McGourty the only top drawer Antrim forwards in the last 40 yesrs. 

Only top class players of current era are CJ and Kevin McGourty and Aodhan Gallagher - Fact!

Apologies to:-

JP O'Kane
Kevin Gough
Pat Armstrong
J McKiernaqn
Frank fitzsimmons
Gerry Mc Cann
Justin Crozier
James Loughrey
Donal Laverty
Tony McAtamney
Michael McCann
Aidan Hammll

not necessarily in that order

Is your favourite colour blue ? What has Kevin McGourty done for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 17, 2012, 10:05:11 PM
The best thing kevin done for antrim was stop playing. Drama queen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 18, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: acton1 on May 17, 2012, 03:56:22 PM
Andy McCallin, Micky Darragh, Kevin Madden and CJ McGourty the only top drawer Antrim forwards in the last 40 yesrs. 

Only top class players of current era are CJ and Kevin McGourty and Aodhan Gallagher - Fact!

Apologies to:-

JP O'Kane
Kevin Gough
Pat Armstrong
J McKiernaqn
Frank fitzsimmons
Gerry Mc Cann
Justin Crozier
James Loughrey
Donal Laverty
Tony McAtamney
Michael McCann
Aidan Hammll

not necessarily in that order

Away and soak your head, to even mention CJ or Kevin in this company in completely laughable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 22, 2012, 01:01:36 PM
Team this weekend anyone?

Thoughts?
Title: Antrim Greats
Post by: acton1 on May 23, 2012, 09:05:43 AM
NAG1, I suggest you soak your own head.  I'm not a Galls man but what they've done in the last 11 years surpasses anything done by an Antrim club before. Did they do this without any good players?

The magnificent St John's team of the 70's/80's included the incomparable Peter McGinnity and Andy McCallin as well as Micky Darragh, kevin Gough and several other top players. They won an Ulster c'ship and reached the AI final only to be beaten by an All Star Thomond team who wouldn't be allowed in the competition these days.

St Galls have won two Ulsters, reached two AI finals and won one of them. Aodhan Gallagher would grace any team in the country while Kevin and CJ are fantastic talents. On his day CJ is one of the top three forwards in Ulster - note his college performances. He may not be the most popular man with other clubs but this shouldn't detract from his talent. Andy Mc Callin and Aidan Hamill weren't exactly loved by other clubs in the 70's.

So stop being a wee bigot and get on with that soaking.   




     

Title: Re: Antrim Greats
Post by: Gold on May 23, 2012, 01:54:36 PM
Quote from: acton1 on May 23, 2012, 09:05:43 AM
NAG1, I suggest you soak your own head.  I'm not a Galls man but what they've done in the last 11 years surpasses anything done by an Antrim club before. Did they do this without any good players?

The magnificent St John's team of the 70's/80's included the incomparable Peter McGinnity and Andy McCallin as well as Micky Darragh, kevin Gough and several other top players. They won an Ulster c'ship and reached the AI final only to be beaten by an All Star Thomond team who wouldn't be allowed in the competition these days.

St Galls have won two Ulsters, reached two AI finals and won one of them. Aodhan Gallagher would grace any team in the country while Kevin and CJ are fantastic talents. On his day CJ is one of the top three forwards in Ulster - note his college performances. He may not be the most popular man with other clubs but this shouldn't detract from his talent. Andy Mc Callin and Aidan Hamill weren't exactly loved by other clubs in the 70's.

So stop being a wee bigot and get on with that soaking.   




     

All in bold tried their eyestrings out for their counties. Didnt complain or have to be coaxed into playing. Just put their shoulders to the wheel, not expecting to be treated differently than any other player.

CJ is not in the top 3 forwards in Ulster. Talented yes but erratic shot selection and questionable ball winning ability at that level.

Kevin again is talented but too small to really dominate at midfield at inter county. I feel he was best at midfield although he'd prob prefer the 12 role where he can win kickouts and run around doing his own thing in a free role. Never produced for the county what he did for your team and never hung about long enough to change begrudgers opinions of him. Played v well away to Kildare in Championship 2010 however.

A Gallagher has been a great servant for Antrim. Again maybe not tall/big enough to really dominate at highest level around the middle and take teams to the cleaners. Can hopefully make me eat my word on Sunday and clean out the Monaghan midfield.

Dont know if he'd start on every county team in the country though he wouldnt be too far away from most. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 24, 2012, 04:23:20 PM
Re-post from main thread.  Antrim team to play Monaghan

1.  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)

2.  Anto Healey (St Gall's)
3.  Ricky Johnston (Creggan)
4.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  James Loughery (St Brigid's)

8.  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9.  Aodhán Gallagher (St Gall's) (c)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Mark Sweeney (St Brigid's)
12.  Mark McAleese (Portglenone)

13.  Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  Michael Magill (Randalstown)
15.  Tomas McCann (Cargin)

Subs:

16.  Willie McSorley (St Brigid's)
17.  Patrick Gallagher (Glenavy)
18.  Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)
19.  Deaghlán O'Hagan (St Brigid's)
20.  Aaron Douglas (St John's)
21.  Conal Kelly (St John's)
22.  Simon McDonagh (St John's)
23.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
24.  Owen Gallagher (Glenavy)
25.  Kevin Brady (Moneyglass)
26.  Brian Neeson (St John's)
27.  Michael Armstrong (O'Donovan Rossa)
28.  Patrick McBride (St John's)
29.  Colm Duffin (Moneyglass)
30.  John Carron (Cargin)
31.  Declan Lynch (Lamh Dhearg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 24, 2012, 05:02:04 PM
One thing is for sure - Not much experience on the Bench for Antrim. Hope that a young and determined Antrim side can pull of a victory in this one as the underdogs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 24, 2012, 11:45:23 PM
Let's just say that won't be the antrim team starting on sunday. You heard it here first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 25, 2012, 01:05:20 AM
number 11,12 or 13 not starting?? They would be the only ones I can see being replaced from the start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 25, 2012, 07:46:16 AM
More positional than personnel change
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 25, 2012, 09:13:35 AM
Give us a clue. Are they going to drop a forward back and play with an extra defender!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 25, 2012, 09:13:35 AM
Give us a clue. Are they going to drop a forward back and play with an extra defender!!!!

Surely not!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Extra man in defence only brings the other team into the game and puts you on the back foot. You'd need a serious forward line to be able to do that and we don't. I don't mind a player playing between the midfield and half forward as he can link up with the FF line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on May 25, 2012, 11:06:15 AM
We don't have a serious forward line true, but if you work of the thinking that Loughrey will be playing 12 (a fair assumption given he scored 2-2 in the last game) then our defence looks fairly weak also. Wouldn't blame Baker if he brought a man back, probably Sweeney as he did it throughout the league. What worries me is the thought of more 'extra' men back there as one is enough. We'll wait and see. Two poor enough teams on the wider scale of things but we know well what one win can do for momentum#saffronsummer2012
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 25, 2012, 11:59:10 AM
The full back line will all be from the same club.

Our captain will line out at corner forward and sweeney the other corner but deployed as a sweeper
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 25, 2012, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 25, 2012, 11:59:10 AM
The full back line will all be from the same club.

Our captain will line out at corner forward and sweeney the other corner but deployed as a sweeper
I think the weather is getting to you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 25, 2012, 04:36:35 PM
So no Niblock?

Bam hurt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2012, 06:55:35 AM
Up & at them Antrim. It might not be pretty to watch, but we definitely need to believe this is winnable.

Hope Paul Mc Flynn`s championship mentality/pedigree can rub off on the players - this is the day that matters. Good vibes from the camp, and a good dry ball will suit us too. Come on the lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2012, 12:00:14 PM
Best of luck to Antrim minor & senior footballers today in Clones!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2012, 03:08:39 PM
Any results from the minors?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: eoinbeag on May 27, 2012, 03:34:42 PM
Monaghan 2.10 beat Antrim 1.2. Poor poor result!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2012, 05:11:36 PM
Crap - another what might have been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Therealbrute on May 27, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Face it lads-The Baker has been found out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 27, 2012, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Therealbrute on May 27, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Face it lads-The Baker has been found out

The Baker didnt let the wing half back stroll past him to score the goal without f'ing taking him down away from goal. The Baker didnt give the (non) free when Ricky punched the ball clear when we were 3 up to put 2 in it. The Baker didnt make C Murray hold the ball with 1 hand, drop it and then fist it to the other team and give away a score when the game was in the melting pot. The Baker didnt make Tomas hit a 21 yard free off the deck into the keepers hands or kick the ball towards bam when he should have ran as he'd acres of space and is the fastest footballer about. The Baker didnt make Loughrey miss by an inch when we were one up and 10 to go.

We had it won, then Tomas Freeman,  individual errors, dodgy decisions and lack of frees given to us lost the game.

I'll write the same next year and after watching the minors probably for another load of years--we dont have the forwards. We dont have a Tommy Freeman. Sin e

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 27, 2012, 11:50:42 PM
+1 for all of the below.

Alot of holding the ball with one hand...Murray, McCann...we're not the Harlem Globetrotters.

Too many hoofs in in first half which went over endline. I have seen these guys...all are good kick passers and could have given Aidso and Magill more of a chance. Angle the ball, pop it in front. Appreciate there may have been a sea of white but recycle look for a man on the run to break the gain line (T McCann/Loughrey). Andy Ward should surely be able to assist on the running angles.

T McCann runs down too many blind alleys and into tackles. Infuriating. If he was willing to lay the ball off and take a 1-2 he would double what he scores. He is a super player but needs to hone his forays.

Fact is we had them.

As noted Baker and the boys set Antrim up in a way which almost and should have seen them win. It was just the execution.

Quote from: Gold on May 27, 2012, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: Therealbrute on May 27, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Face it lads-The Baker has been found out

The Baker didnt let the wing half back stroll past him to score the goal without f'ing taking him down away from goal. The Baker didnt give the (non) free when Ricky punched the ball clear when we were 3 up to put 2 in it. The Baker didnt make C Murray hold the ball with 1 hand, drop it and then fist it to the other team and give away a score when the game was in the melting pot. The Baker didnt make Tomas hit a 21 yard free off the deck into the keepers hands or kick the ball towards bam when he should have ran as he'd acres of space and is the fastest footballer about. The Baker didnt make Loughrey miss by an inch when we were one up and 10 to go.

We had it won, then Tomas Freeman,  individual errors, dodgy decisions and lack of frees given to us lost the game.

I'll write the same next year and after watching the minors probably for another load of years--we dont have the forwards. We dont have a Tommy Freeman. Sin e
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 28, 2012, 09:36:01 AM
12 or 13 points is what we have been scoring for the last couple of years.  We cannot score enough no matter how much possession/chances we have.

This was the age old story.  A game there to be won and we came up short.  It seems that this is in the Antrim county footballer's DNA. :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 28, 2012, 02:32:14 PM
Agree with Gold - our mistakes!
Did feel for the lads yesteday.

I think taking an out and out midfielder and playing him beside the full forward tells its own story - system or not, you gotta have faith in your forwards!
It obviously a real problem - not something that will be remedied over night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
Just my tuppenceworth.

A real good rattle we had at them. Matched them all over the pitch, and made more actual scoring chances. Their goal inside thirty seconds was a killer blow, and was decisive in the end - but we had players emptying the tank all over the place, and there have been too many displays by this team in recent games when this has not been the case.

We outplayed them, outworked them too I thought, but unfortuntely we also made more mistakes, kicked some silly balls away which led to a higher wastage rate than Monaghan. In the end that killed us - in other words we contributed to our own downfall.

I like what the new management team have brought to the table. Tackling was back to its best again. The half forward line as listed were all rookies, but Murray, Sweeney and Mc Aleese can all hold their heads high. Unlike the Irish News ratings, I thought Justy Crozier was much better than 5.5 too - his turnovers and tackling was immense.

Think Kevin Brady maybe could have created a lot of space, with fresh legs, as he has done so often, if he could have got the last 15 minutes.

In any event, we may find out that this isnt too bad a Monaghan team. Would be giving them a good life of getting to the final, in which case we will really look back on this as one that got away.

Any chance of getting Niblock back for the qualifiers?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on May 28, 2012, 11:52:07 PM
Think for me the subs weren't made early enough. Team were working so hard in that heat it was clear they would sag and that's why we faded at the end I feel. Another that got away, to move onto the next level those are the games we have to win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 29, 2012, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 28, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
Just my tuppenceworth.

A real good rattle we had at them. Matched them all over the pitch, and made more actual scoring chances. Their goal inside thirty seconds was a killer blow, and was decisive in the end - but we had players emptying the tank all over the place, and there have been too many displays by this team in recent games when this has not been the case.

We outplayed them, outworked them too I thought, but unfortuntely we also made more mistakes, kicked some silly balls away which led to a higher wastage rate than Monaghan. In the end that killed us - in other words we contributed to our own downfall.

I like what the new management team have brought to the table. Tackling was back to its best again. The half forward line as listed were all rookies, but Murray, Sweeney and Mc Aleese can all hold their heads high. Unlike the Irish News ratings, I thought Justy Crozier was much better than 5.5 too - his turnovers and tackling was immense.

Think Kevin Brady maybe could have created a lot of space, with fresh legs, as he has done so often, if he could have got the last 15 minutes.

In any event, we may find out that this isnt too bad a Monaghan team. Would be giving them a good life of getting to the final, in which case we will really look back on this as one that got away.

Any chance of getting Niblock back for the qualifiers?

Agree --great ball winner in FF line --may have helped us get our hands on the ball up front, use it smartly and help win the game in last 10-15 --better option than Bam who was in behind and couldnt be found or Doot Kelly who never got a touch (although to be fair the ball never came near him).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
100% Gold.

Kevin was  the only player who showed up in our last championship match in the qualifiers last year against Kildare. Out in front and making things happen. No substitute for class and experience and the last 15 or 20 minutes on Sunday, dry ball et all, would have suited his style, and allowed him to bring his experience to the mix.

Hope he hangs in there for the summer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 29, 2012, 11:10:46 PM
strength and depth combined with experience and the better start/finish won this game for Monaghan. In between these periods Antrim dominated, did not make it count enough on the score board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 30, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Would have left Magill on!!!
They bring Feeman on, we bring on 3 half decent club footballers!
Brady was the best option for that game me thinks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 30, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
All fun and games at milltown tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 30, 2012, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 30, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
All fun and games at milltown tonight

Boxing? No love lost there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 09:03:57 PM
5 sent off!!! Two Herrons, straigtht reds for all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 30, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 09:03:57 PM
5 sent off!!! Two Herrons, straigtht reds for all involved.

Micko? Second red this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 30, 2012, 09:14:59 PM
Who got them for St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on May 30, 2012, 09:14:59 PM
Who got them for St Galls?

Not sure what happened, just got a text from someone, whether it was straight reds or not.  Fun and games all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 30, 2012, 09:47:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on May 30, 2012, 09:14:59 PM
Who got them for St Galls?

Not sure what happened, just got a text from someone, whether it was straight reds or not.  Fun and games all the same
Seems it was straight reds, all given at once too. Sounds like it was good craic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on May 30, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
2  Herrons for LD, Terry O'Neill, Burkey and Darren O'Hare for St Galls got them. Bit of a ruck really, dunno how it started though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on May 30, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
If you get sent off in club football are you banned from club hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 30, 2012, 10:56:49 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2012, 11:47:41 PM
You sure about that?

Not all offenses in club games carry through to county depending on the severity but is it not just construed as a club ban and so across both codes?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 31, 2012, 12:52:02 AM
Unless one of them assaulted the referee then it's only a suspension in that code and at that level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 31, 2012, 02:30:09 AM
Think it's a joke if that is how light the suspension rule is. Used to be you were not allowed on a GAA pitch wasn't it? Due to not being insured? Or was that just a myth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 08:29:04 AM
They changed that rule years ago!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 31, 2012, 08:42:12 AM
It depends on what category offence the referee puts them in for as to what type of suspension they get, whether that be single code or both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 10:44:44 AM
Category 3 I think crosses both codes and County also maybe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 31, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
Cat 1-3 = Single Code Suspensions - striking / stamping / headbutting / hairpulling / handbagging etc

Cat 4-5 = All levels / All activities - assaults on match officials etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on May 31, 2012, 11:16:01 AM
For the most part it was nothing more than a scuffle between 2 players which most other players tried to break up including one that was then also booked in the end.  One of the worst offenders, a lamh dhearg county player, actually fly kicked a st galls player in the back and managed not to get booked at all!  ??? 

Once calmed down tho that was it over and the rest of the game continued without incident.

Not sure if it is a bit of a coincidence but there seems to be a common denominator between quite a few incidents over the last year; LD v Cargin in casement, LD v Rasharkin and now this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on May 31, 2012, 11:33:29 AM
Wasn't trying to be unfair just more putting a question out there!  Wasn't at the rasharkin game so cant really pass any comment but did see the LD v Cargin and they were far from innocent in that.  Quite a number of their players were involved and it was definitley a 2 way thing... not all on Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on May 31, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Thought 5 reds was a bit OTT, wasn't a pitched battle or that. Seemed to be getting calmed down then one or two players wanted to keep at it but seemed that more were there calming it down than anything else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 31, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Thought 5 reds was a bit OTT, wasn't a pitched battle or that. Seemed to be getting calmed down then one or two players wanted to keep at it but seemed that more were there calming it down than anything else

If you are a referee and you see someone throw a dig at someone, what do you do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on May 31, 2012, 11:57:08 AM
Def agree the red cards were a bit much, some of the guys that were actually trying to break things up and are now going to get suspended for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 12:15:41 PM
Here's the thing about guys trying to break it up, it usually descends into more fights. If two guys want to have a go let them, stand back and let them blatter away (usually over in seconds), but if someone goes in i feel they will only make matters worse, someone else ways in and then someone else ways in........

Need to cut this out, before someone actually gets really hurt. You'd think getting suspended would stop you from getting involved again, no brainer.

Played a football match years ago v Sarsfields, won the ball and went through a tackle and laid the ball off to one of our players as i watched the ball go up field, my man dirty joe'd me with a four d to the side of the head, the referee sent both of us off!!! I hate referees that do that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on May 31, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
Well the issue was that it was 1 on 1 until another lamh dhearg guy fly kicked the st galls guy in the back while the 2 were fighting... when it becomes 2 on 1 are you still meant to stand back??  The third guy that got involved sparked the rest, as you say the initial incident would have fizzled out itself if it had not been for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on May 31, 2012, 01:48:58 PM
I thought there was a rule years ago that the third man in was a straight red. In saying that, if its off the ball its more than likely that the referee hadn't how it started.

I'd like to see the man who throws the first dig get the line with the retaliator getting a yellow, but once again very hard to police.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on May 31, 2012, 02:22:51 PM
Doubt the referee saw the start because the ball had been moved to the far side of the field and was behind him when it kicked off. Seemed most of the players missed the start as did I as following the play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 31, 2012, 01:48:58 PM
I thought there was a rule years ago that the third man in was a straight red. In saying that, if its off the ball its more than likely that the referee hadn't how it started.

I'd like to see the man who throws the first dig get the line with the retaliator getting a yellow, but once again very hard to police.

That's true, was at a course a while back and they said you (referee) should stand back and note who gets involved and any striking is a red card so you could end up sending off 4/5 players at any of these incidents.

Refereed a game a couple of weeks ago and the game was tight and a few hard challenges going in, nothing major. One of the lads, in fact a couple said that I was going to cause a riot!! I promptly said that if I saw anyone striking another player he'd get a straight red, needless to say there was no riot!! Referees never cause a free for all, they may give 'bad' calls but the players at the end of the day cause the fights
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gelvis on May 31, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
Plenty of rowing at the Ballymena St Teresas game lastnight too I hear?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 31, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
It's pretty straightforward: Rule 5 - aggressive fouls - immediate order off (red cards).
Rule 5.9 football, 5.12 hurling - to contribute to a melee.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 31, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
refs are getting a bit OTT these days i think. I was at an antrim league game last night too where it finished 13 a side. A bit niggly now and again , but not the worst ive seen. the 1st red card was deserved but the rest were borderline, a bit more common sense could have been used. Seems like if it a bit more common sense was used at St Galls/LD, then i doubt if 5 Reds would have been issued.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on May 31, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: gelvis on May 31, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
Plenty of rowing at the Ballymena St Teresas game lastnight too I hear?

Many reds in that 1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 31, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
refs are getting a bit OTT these days i think. I was at an antrim league game last night too where it finished 13 a side. A bit niggly now and again , but not the worst ive seen. the 1st red card was deserved but the rest were borderline, a bit more common sense could have been used. Seems like if it a bit more common sense was used at St Galls/LD, then i doubt if 5 Reds would have been issued.

Common sense should really come from the players FFS. Fed up hearing that one. Would you use that line if someone ended up with brain damage if hit on the temple from some scum bag? Afraid not, these arse holes need rid out.

Wasn't that long ago that a lad was hit in San Fran and ended up in a bad way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 01, 2012, 07:38:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 31, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
refs are getting a bit OTT these days i think. I was at an antrim league game last night too where it finished 13 a side. A bit niggly now and again , but not the worst ive seen. the 1st red card was deserved but the rest were borderline, a bit more common sense could have been used. Seems like if it a bit more common sense was used at St Galls/LD, then i doubt if 5 Reds would have been issued.

Common sense should really come from the players FFS. Fed up hearing that one. Would you use that line if someone ended up with brain damage if hit on the temple from some scum bag? Afraid not, these arse holes need rid out.

Wasn't that long ago that a lad was hit in San Fran and ended up in a bad way.

i know what you;re saying, and as i said the 1st guy got the line deservedly cause he struck and left the cub with a bad eye, but the other 3 were far from sc**bag actions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2012, 09:09:06 AM
This red you talk of Hoof was indeed a particularly dirty, callous totally random off the ball offence - the kind of which has absolutely no place in our games. The recipient of the blow was player a minor who was lining out for his club in the middle of his A levels, and will today attempt to do an A level with an eye so black and swollen that he will be lucky to see out of it. Horrific to say the least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leave er in on June 01, 2012, 10:53:12 AM
This red you talk of Hoof was indeed a particularly dirty, callous totally random off the ball offence - the kind of which has absolutely no place in our games. The recipient of the blow was player a minor who was lining out for his club in the middle of his A levels, and will today attempt to do an A level with an eye so black and swollen that he will be lucky to see out of it. Horrific to say the least.

I'll start with saying I in no way justify the act that happened on Wednesday night however I feel one party in the story is being hung out to dry here, I also attended the game and didn't see the incident at the time but have been speaking to our man involved since, as anyone that knows him will know he is a fiery character who unfortunately has a history of being involved in confrontation but you will also know he is honest as the day is long and that he would not strike for the sake of striking (I'll reiterate that i don't justify it) however as our man tells it after a bit of jostling shirt pulling etc the opposition player struck out at him hitting him in the throat he then retaliated, not quite a random callous off the ball offence, it is unfortunate that the boy is a minor and sitting exams but if you raise your hands you leave yourself open to retaliation. However its a shame that in some of our games things come to this men should be men and play a good hard game of football without the need to strike with hands or feet, just good honest graft and a handshake at the end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gelvis on June 01, 2012, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: The Worker on May 31, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: gelvis on May 31, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
Plenty of rowing at the Ballymena St Teresas game lastnight too I hear?

Many reds in that 1?

Think it all happened after the game, wasn't there myself.  It would probably depend on the referees report now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 06, 2012, 10:29:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 06, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
Upara!!

Did you's beat the Johnnies?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 06, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
Excellent win for Rossa in a big derby game, they must be starting to bring through a few young footballers HS? St Johns don't seem as hot as they have been the last few years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 06, 2012, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 06, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
Excellent win for Rossa in a big derby game, they must be starting to bring through a few young footballers HS? St Johns don't seem as hot as they have been the last few years?

Rossa could find themselves in a Championship Final if they're not careful!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 07, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
Sounds interesting, Rossa could end up staying up if they pick up another few wins soon, few teams struggling at the minute, just noticed how well St Pauls are doing, anyone saw them this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on June 07, 2012, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 07, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
Sounds interesting, Rossa could end up staying up if they pick up another few wins soon, few teams struggling at the minute, just noticed how well St Pauls are doing, anyone saw them this year?

Unfortunately i have watched St Pauls twice this year and twice beat us. Average enough side, one very good forward, dont know his name and defensively very well organised but have a very poor midfield, doesn't say a lot for us that they beat us twice.
Some result for Rossa last night, puts them back in the mix with Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Brigids and even Jonnies. It is going to be a real dog fight at the bottom end of the table this year.
Is Eamon Blaney away from St Johns, didnt see him on the line last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 07, 2012, 11:52:06 AM
Had heard he left St Johns a while back due to commitment reasons from players etc, but you never really hear the full truth in these matters. Yes I agree there is going to be some serious tight games around the bottom this year, whoever stays the most injury free I feel will remain safe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on June 07, 2012, 12:50:49 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on June 07, 2012, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 07, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
Sounds interesting, Rossa could end up staying up if they pick up another few wins soon, few teams struggling at the minute, just noticed how well St Pauls are doing, anyone saw them this year?

Unfortunately i have watched St Pauls twice this year and twice beat us. Average enough side, one very good forward, dont know his name and defensively very well organised but have a very poor midfield, doesn't say a lot for us that they beat us twice.
Some result for Rossa last night, puts them back in the mix with Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Brigids and even Jonnies. It is going to be a real dog fight at the bottom end of the table this year.
Is Eamon Blaney away from St Johns, didnt see him on the line last night?

I heard the game of last night was in Aghagallon Rasharkin Gael? Any truth?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on June 07, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on Today at 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on Today at 01:08:36 AM
Sounds interesting, Rossa could end up staying up if they pick up another few wins soon, few teams struggling at the minute, just noticed how well St Pauls are doing, anyone saw them this year?

Unfortunately i have watched St Pauls twice this year and twice beat us. Average enough side, one very good forward, dont know his name and defensively very well organised but have a very poor midfield, doesn't say a lot for us that they beat us twice.
Some result for Rossa last night, puts them back in the mix with Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Brigids and even Jonnies. It is going to be a real dog fight at the bottom end of the table this year.
Is Eamon Blaney away from St Johns, didnt see him on the line last night?

I heard the game of last night was in Aghagallon Rasharkin Gael? Any truth?


Yeah ur right, Aghagallon stole it. They were 7 up 5 mins into second half, then Rasharkin went 4 up with 10 mins to go , then aghalgallon got couple of points, then a goal in the last minute, It was a end to end game

Would have been a big Result for Rasharkin, which would help them avoid relegation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on June 07, 2012, 10:08:50 PM
Reserves devastated at losing that game, they haven't had a win all season. Awful lot of injuries in our senior panel so many of the fellas who would normally be playing for the reserves have been drafted into the Senior ranks and has left them very weak. Apart from a hammering from Gort na Mona they have actually done very well under the circumstances and have no luck go their way at all.
Unbelievable finish to the Aghagallon game, but when your lucks out its out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 13, 2012, 11:57:52 AM
 Naomh Gall v Creagán   
Rasharkin v  Ahoghill 
St Bridgid's  v  Naomh Pól
Carragan v Rossa

Predictions?
Its getting a tad boring now - St.Galls will take some stoping, beating teams with 4,5,6 players missing every week!!!

Any way for what its worth:

4 home wins!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 13, 2012, 09:07:28 PM
Naomh Pol beat St Brigid's away tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 09:31:28 PM
We drew with Creggan I see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on June 14, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
That was a surprise result against Creggan MR2. The lough shore men must have got back on track after a terrible start to their campaign. We were demolished by Ahoghill! Really needed a result from that game to give ourselves any chance of staying up but looks ominous now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2012, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on June 14, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
That was a surprise result against Creggan MR2. The lough shore men must have got back on track after a terrible start to their campaign. We were demolished by Ahoghill! Really needed a result from that game to give ourselves any chance of staying up but looks ominous now.
We just 15 men, and ended up with 2 players injured that had to play on, one with a torn calf and a split head on the other player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 14, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
Resting a few for the weekend MR2?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 14, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
Resting a few? Aye cos the 2 players injured were hurlers. Shouldn't be allowed to play big ball. We'll be lucky to field on sunday. Another 2 down on top of mackers and karl and the others
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 15, 2012, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 14, 2012, 11:27:42 PM
Can I be rude enough to ask why St. Galls only had 15 players for a senior football game? They used to have a million players.

The start of the end???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on June 15, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Was the same v Lámh Dhearg, found it strange alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 15, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
Player Revolt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2012, 09:06:40 AM
Antrim will play London in the 1st round of the football qualifiers (in London, I think).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
That's not an easy one to get going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2012, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
That's not an easy one to get going

Agreed.  Antrim would want to have their wits about them for this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 18, 2012, 01:35:39 PM
Certainly not an easy one but i'd say Baker and the boys are happy enough with this draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 18, 2012, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
That's not an easy one to get going

Agreed.  Antrim would want to have their wits about them for this one.

If Antrim don't win this, they should just give up!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 18, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
Good draw. London have improved but we should have enough.

Better than getting Derry, Armagh or Laois or anyone else actually

Change good to best. Best draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 19, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 18, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
Good draw. London have improved but we should have enough.

Better than getting Derry, Armagh or Laois or anyone else actually

Change good to best. Best draw

I would take Derry after watching them on Sat night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 19, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 19, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 18, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
Good draw. London have improved but we should have enough.

Better than getting Derry, Armagh or Laois or anyone else actually

Change good to best. Best draw

I would take Derry after watching them on Sat night.

No way--mental block plus the 2 x Bradleys--not a chance

Tell me the last time we beat Derry?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 19, 2012, 11:25:38 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 19, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 19, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 18, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
Good draw. London have improved but we should have enough.

Better than getting Derry, Armagh or Laois or anyone else actually

Change good to best. Best draw

I would take Derry after watching them on Sat night.

No way--mental block plus the 2 x Bradleys--not a chance

Tell me the last time we beat Derry?

True gold but only commenting on how poor they were on Sat and would fancy us against them on that form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 19, 2012, 01:49:35 PM
Last time we beat Derry was in McKenna Cup 2010, but fair point, not in ages in any meaningful league or championship game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on June 21, 2012, 10:01:27 PM
At this point we have nothing to fear from Derry. Of course we would rather get London, but we are a long way forward from when we met Derry in 2007 and they hammered us out of Casement. You're right Gold in so much as the Bradley's would give them the edge, but to say we have no chance is exaggeration in the highest. Let's get over a tricky first hurdle at Ruslip and we will take it from there. Hopefully see a few familiar faces back in the fold for the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 22, 2012, 10:23:46 AM
Quote from: subterranean saffron on June 21, 2012, 10:01:27 PM
At this point we have nothing to fear from Derry. Of course we would rather get London, but we are a long way forward from when we met Derry in 2007 and they hammered us out of Casement. You're right Gold in so much as the Bradley's would give them the edge, but to say we have no chance is exaggeration in the highest. Let's get over a tricky first hurdle at Ruslip and we will take it from there. Hopefully see a few familiar faces back in the fold for the qualifiers.

Why?, did baker have another trial or something?
Who are you talking about sub?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on June 22, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
Kevin Niblock maybe? I'm not sure if he is still in England at the minute or back  home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: subterranean saffron on June 22, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
I mean Niblock DM, Baker mentioned in the build up to Monaghan that he would be back in the fold. Honestly don't know if he has been training with the team at all but would make a huge difference. At this stage the ship has sailed on anyone else. Would love to see the boys make a run in the qualifiers, fingers crossed we get one over The Exiles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on June 23, 2012, 10:07:07 PM
Baker's last game in charge will be in Ruislip. Can you imagine what the flight home will be like. Such a terrible end to what started so brightly. Gearoid should see us into Div 4, next year - without any assistance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on June 28, 2012, 10:22:20 PM
We'll be remembered as the team beaten by London in the 2012 qualifiers. There may not be too many applicants for the job, when that is the memory! See you at the Div 4 matches! Another long drive to Kilkenny!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 28, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
why don't you crawl under a rock Northern Light? and stay there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 02:16:03 PM
It won't get any worse that this...until the hurlers start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 30, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
A win's a win and we dont win many.

2-11 to 2-9

Croker here we come!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2012, 03:50:38 PM
Evens plus 4 for London, bet of the week, they must have been in cahoots!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 30, 2012, 05:35:05 PM
Who all is in the draw for next round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 01, 2012, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 30, 2012, 05:35:05 PM
Who all is in the draw for next round?

  Bowl B                            Bowl A
Antrim                                 Tyrone
Wicklow                               Monaghan
Laois                                   Galway
Westmeath                          Leitrim
Tipperary                             Kerry
Longford                              Limerick
Roscommon/Armagh             Kildare/Meath
Fermanagh/Cavan                 Dublin/Wexford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2012, 11:36:13 AM
Anyone bar Leitrim and the players will have an early summer break of IC football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2012, 01:00:37 PM
Antrim could see off (on a good day) Monaghan, Wexford, Leitrim or Limerick at home. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 02, 2012, 09:45:22 AM
Antrim at home to Galway in the qualifiers.  Half a chance??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on July 02, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
Aside from hoping for leitrim or Limerick, a big name at home is a good draw. Travelling to Galway would probably have been a task too far at this stage, but at home, it could be something special. We have a real chance in this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on July 02, 2012, 10:05:28 AM
Strange one. Galway beat Roscommon well then got pumped by Sligo. At home a good performance could beat them, be tough though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 02, 2012, 11:02:22 AM


Sligo beat them so so can we.

Nothing to lose-people think we're already beat so we may as well have a go

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on July 02, 2012, 11:03:25 AM
Would need to get a few more good players on board, took niblock to come on and score a late goal to prevent an embarassing defeat to London!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 02, 2012, 12:06:06 PM
HS....St Galls have a serious load of injuries at the minute and are struggling to field 2 teams together....having said that we had 45 of a panel in croke park a few years ago so you'd have to ask where a lot of those superstars are.

The senior hurling management team have stepped down too so maybe all isnt as it seems....maybe MR can add more to this as I am not entirely sure as have been away from club for a bit.

Good result for rossa all teh same and I hope they stay up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 02, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
Cant argue with that HS. Maybe yous arent as bad as you think and maybe more credit is due to Rossa as you seem to have got better as the league has went on.

Maybe dark horses for the championship as it doesnt seem any team is streets ahead at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 02, 2012, 01:00:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 02, 2012, 12:49:49 PM
I'd settle for just 1 win in the championship. :)

Big game on Wed night v Rasharkin. Would be a minor miracle if we escaped relegation.
Fingers crossed.

Maybe easier than you think, I hear after yesterday they may be a few short to say the least! Old habits die hard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 02, 2012, 01:16:31 PM
Another row MIBAG ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 02, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
So I am told, kicked off cant say too much as not in receipt of all the facts yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 03, 2012, 04:56:18 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 02, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
So I am told, kicked off cant say too much as not in receipt of all the facts yet.

Any more info on this then? Men sent off?

Is there a rota in the village as to who will start/finish a row on a weekly basis? Consistency is a dying art and they repeatedly come through with the goods on this front so should arguably be lauded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: chocoholic on July 03, 2012, 10:57:51 AM
Not going to be good for Rasharkin.  Rasharkin Gael still here? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on July 03, 2012, 11:22:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 03, 2012, 07:16:28 AM
3 straight reds for Rasharkin, I believe.

2 red for Rasharkin and 2 red for Creggan, bit of handbags and ref sent the four of them off , no complaints. Not sure about other red card though. Creggan and Rasharkin both had 13 men on at the end of game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on July 03, 2012, 12:42:02 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on July 03, 2012, 11:22:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 03, 2012, 07:16:28 AM
3 straight reds for Rasharkin, I believe.

2 red for Rasharkin and 2 red for Creggan, bit of handbags and ref sent the four of them off , no complaints. Not sure about other red card though. Creggan and Rasharkin both had 13 men on at the end of game.

Me thinks you are FOS RG, I hear 5 Reds- 3 of your lads 2 creggan lads, dont know if the creggan lads would share the same sentiment after your lad dirty joed the minor off the ball which by all accounts started the free for all. Granted not as bad as the Jonnies and Cargin but I also hear your mentors went in for a bit of boxing as well, you think you boys would have learned your lesson and be thankful your still in the leagues after your last handbag situation in ballymena! Maybe MH can work his magic again at UC, what you think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on July 03, 2012, 02:12:05 PM
FFS nobody just blaming Rasharkin, I love the line supposed, I hear the lad was unconscious for a few minutes and had to be helped to the line, maybe we should ask him to post on Facebook a picture of his face the next morning, what you think? It takes two to tango but the dirty action of your lad started the process, cant argue that point. I hear your chairman had a great view as one of the umpires! Refs are told these days to now to stand back and get every idiot that wants to get involved, was there no video? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 03, 2012, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: AQMP on July 02, 2012, 09:45:22 AM
Antrim at home to Galway in the qualifiers.  Half a chance??

Match set for Sat 14th July with a 3:00pm throw-in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 03, 2012, 06:17:03 PM

There was an off the ball incident which left a Creggan player on the ground, the Creggan subs ran on to confront the Rasharkin player and a bit of a schmozzle started.
After about 20 seconds, the referee sent off the Rasharkin player initially involved as well as one other Rasharkin player and a Creggan player both of whom were doing a bit of pushing in the schmozzle.

Later in the match a second Creggan player was sent off for a soft second yellow card.

Move along now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2012, 07:12:27 PM
Will all Div1&2 games be called off this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
I heard Sean Mc Veigh was the best player on the pitch on Saturday and cleaned us out in the midfield area. There were a lot of opinions here a year or so back that he wasnt good enough to play for Antrim. Some things have a strange way of sorting themselves out! Well done Big Snowey.

Another midfielder a lot of so called experts on here had a good chuckle about was Niall Mc Keever. It might`nt make any headlines, but big Niall is a regular first teamer with the Brisbane Lions, and going really well. He won more first phase possession in Bakers big first year than any other player - all was needed was a bit of polishing up. FFS he was only 19 at the time, and at 6 foot 7 only starting to fill that frame.

Should have been a bit more careful what we wished for!

Two massive losses that got away, and those two in midfield right now for us would offer us some platform that we are crying out for. Would free up Mick & Aidso to use their mobility and strength elsewhere on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2012, 08:15:51 PM
McKeever won some amount of ball against Cavan the year we got to the ulster final so there was never any question about his ball winning ability - his ability to kick the ball was what was in question. He was a cert starter anyway but perfecting that side of his game would have put him into the better county midfielders if he had the chance.

McVeigh has improved a lot since moving to London which is a little strange I guess. It's possibly that he's got a lot more strength and conditioning work behind him as he's now a strong boy which he possibly wasn't so much when he left. The best club midfield in antrim last year was the ballymena midfield of him and Paddy Logan but McVeigh ,before he left to go to London, didn't merit a starting place for antrim though he clearly does now.

Not sure who questioned McKeever to be honest...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2012, 10:23:18 PM
In fairness Sean has definitely improved. If big Niall had hung around he would be probably the best fielder in Ulster by now. That makes some difference to a team - although a lot of keepers are not punting it down the middle any more. Hypothetical now TBH.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 04, 2012, 01:26:58 AM
Any reports from tonights game v Down at Carryduff? Heard it was close game played out using all of the panel. Owen Gallagher got the Antrim goal apparently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on July 04, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
I see the football development squads are back in action today. Anybody know why they were put on ice for the last few months?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on July 04, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on July 04, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
I see the football development squads are back in action today. Anybody know why they were put on ice for the last few months?

Bugger off back to your North Antrim bog land RG. You lot of scumbags have been a blight on Antrim for far too long . What has Rasharkin ever contibuted to Antrim? Pack of caveman, shite footballers, even worse hurlers. The sooner that shite hole of a pitch of yours is closed the better and thats what everyone on here thinks just dont say it. No place for you lot in modern game mate, and every club in Antrim hates you so why dont you just fold up and fk off and save wee Joe the trouble of kicking you out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: chocoholic on July 04, 2012, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: viva the mccooey on July 04, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on July 04, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
I see the football development squads are back in action today. Anybody know why they were put on ice for the last few months?

Bugger off back to your North Antrim bog land RG. You lot of scumbags have been a blight on Antrim for far too long . What has Rasharkin ever contibuted to Antrim? Pack of caveman, shite footballers, even worse hurlers. The sooner that shite hole of a pitch of yours is closed the better and thats what everyone on here thinks just dont say it. No place for you lot in modern game mate, and every club in Antrim hates you so why dont you just fold up and fk off and save wee Joe the trouble of kicking you out.

What a fcukin idiot.  Don't respond to this troll!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on July 04, 2012, 12:44:03 PM
well choco, you've obviously had your nose so far up those sw and na antrim assholes you cant see the woods for the trees. Whats the point in having all county leagues. We should just have a proper SA legue and championship and let those fools up the country paddle their own canoe. That would be far better for Antrim. TR had the right idea, give them fk all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 04, 2012, 06:48:52 PM
RG got the low down on your game,

2 reds around the melee
1 red  exiting the field of play

Mentors for the high jump also, now how many times considering you behaviour with Ray, do your lads think you going to get away with it, Micky H worked his magic once don't think lightening going to strike twice in the same place this time, CCC have you id say.

What concerns me more however is the Jonnies v Cargin game, match allegedly abandoned after major melee, fair enough, but Ref after allegedly meeting both chairman in his room comes back out a long time after and starts the game and nobody walks at all, Christ if this is true then again for the second time this year a Referee has been found out and IMO needs to shown the door. E T from that great club in North Belfast you should be utterly ashamed of yourself absolute disgrace. Terrible s performance at ballycastle was enough to stomach, but this takes the fckn biscuit!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clinker on July 04, 2012, 09:42:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 04, 2012, 09:27:20 PM
We beat Rasharkin by 6 in the end. Could have been more. We took an early 5 point lead with the help of a dubious penalty. It was all Rasharkin fir the rest of the half and they lead by 2 or 3 at half time. They offered very little in the second half. We scored a couple of goals to put the game to bed. As clean a match as I've ever watched. Not even a word spoken in anger.


Good to see Che and Begley with their tails up after going to support Rossa all year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 05, 2012, 01:19:11 AM
Very valuable two points gained tonight by Rossa against relegation rivals Rasharkin, what has happened to the Malone Road men this year, surprised to see them so far down the table, few huge games coming up for all teams at the wrong end of the table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on July 05, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on July 04, 2012, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: viva the mccooey on July 04, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on July 04, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
I see the football development squads are back in action today. Anybody know why they were put on ice for the last few months?

Bugger off back to your North Antrim bog land RG. You lot of scumbags have been a blight on Antrim for far too long . What has Rasharkin ever contibuted to Antrim? Pack of caveman, shite footballers, even worse hurlers. The sooner that shite hole of a pitch of yours is closed the better and thats what everyone on here thinks just dont say it. No place for you lot in modern game mate, and every club in Antrim hates you so why dont you just fold up and fk off and save wee Joe the trouble of kicking you out.

What a fcukin idiot.  Don't respond to this troll!
U r everything that is wrong with Antrim Gaa!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on July 08, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
cargan banned from playing any more home games at toome this season. no individual suspensions, what a joke! Cargan just the same as Rasharkin, should have been put out of the legues altogether, their history shows that they have constantly tried to bullt city teams, hannahstown last year a prime example. Hard on St Johns though, guys only protecting themselves in a hostile situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 08, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
What was the punishment handed out to st johns?. St johns were never any angels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on July 08, 2012, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: viva the mccooey on July 08, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
cargan banned from playing any more home games at toome this season. no individual suspensions, what a joke! Cargan just the same as Rasharkin, should have been put out of the legues altogether, their history shows that they have constantly tried to bullt city teams, hannahstown last year a prime example. Hard on St Johns though, guys only protecting themselves in a hostile situation.


Except the game v rasharkin that can b played at home thats hardly fair, rasharkin hav to play away all season :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Joxer_man on July 11, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gaaman24 on July 08, 2012, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: viva the mccooey on July 08, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
cargan banned from playing any more home games at toome this season. no individual suspensions, what a joke! Cargan just the same as Rasharkin, should have been put out of the legues altogether, their history shows that they have constantly tried to bullt city teams, hannahstown last year a prime example. Hard on St Johns though, guys only protecting themselves in a hostile situation.


Except the game v rasharkin that can b played at home thats hardly fair, rasharkin hav to play away all season :o

lest we forget that cargin didn't attack the referee. what world do you live in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on July 12, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
A ban is a ban!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: eachaidh on July 12, 2012, 12:31:55 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on July 13, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
belfast teams are all gypsys i mind playing a few years back and we were told we were gonna get shot,cargin should have beat them black and blue,im not a cargin man but well done to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on July 13, 2012, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: viva the mccooey on July 08, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
cargan banned from playing any more home games at toome this season. no individual suspensions, what a joke! Cargan just the same as Rasharkin, should have been put out of the legues altogether, their history shows that they have constantly tried to bullt city teams, hannahstown last year a prime example. Hard on St Johns though, guys only protecting themselves in a hostile situation.
shut up ass ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 13, 2012, 03:37:12 PM
Quote from: bhoy1888 on July 13, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
belfast teams are all gypsys i mind playing a few years back and we were told we were gonna get shot,cargin should have beat them black and blue,im not a cargin man but well done to them

Was there not a gun produced at a game between Cargin and Dunloy a few years back? Could be wrong about the two clubs but was definitely one of the above, and have a feeling it was a minor game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2012, 03:41:37 PM
There did used to be the odd kneecapping threat from some boys on the city teams alright actually... One of them I recall was even a county player at the time!(a long time ago).


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 14, 2012, 05:42:37 PM
Great win today, a much needed boost for the county. Kerr in nets was brilliant, Crozier and O'Boyle very solid. Not much happening up front with the defensive way we set up but Tomas was very patient with him and his brother getting some vital scores. Bring on the next round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 14, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
You dont see that every day  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2012, 06:44:11 PM
Great win -wasn't pretty at times but who cares. Hopefully another home draw now for another scalp.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 14, 2012, 06:46:46 PM
ITG, football aint goin to get pretty again any time soon. But credit to all involved today. As good a display from our senior football team in years. Every player seemed to understand the system/gameplan, and it suits our style.

Tackling all over the pitch was brilliant (Loup like!) and what a day for lots of players to pull out season bests.

Just a few special mentions on a day everyone can hold their head up. Big Ricky was immense, and that was Michael Mc Canns finest match in a Saffron jersey. Every defender was on top of their game - Justy back to his best too.

And for all the hours he has put in, often against the grain - how good would tonight feel for Deaghlin O Hagan!!!

Let the summer continue.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 14, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
took a trip up to see my county of residence in action, and was pleasantly surprised. played very well. maybe they could get a home draw next weekend and i could get another day out. The other Johnston was very good too in 1st half, no.15 but played on right hand of defence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 14, 2012, 09:42:01 PM
Hey big Hoof, not often the Saffrons go on longer than the Oak Leaf!

That 15 you talk of, Marty Johnston, is still only 19 was at St Pats Maghera this year. For his age he was immense today. Creggan men but 50%good Portglenone stock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 14, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
What mainland is that SS2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 14, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
What mainland is that SS2?

Europe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 14, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Missed a thriller today. A point down with three minutes left. A couple of beauties (Tomas & Deaghlin) got us over the line.

Bring on next week. Boys in good shape.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 14, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
Missed a thriller today. A point down with three minutes left. A couple of beauties (Tomas & Deaghlin) got us over the line.

Bring on next week. Boys in good shape.

Was "watching" it here. Missed the bit between Joyce putting Galway 10 - 9 up and the two beauties (assume you mean the points rather than the boyos). Last few minutes were torture, eased with a decent Pinot Grigio.

Great result. Home draw next week is essential, but there are few who Antrim should fear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on July 14, 2012, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Kerr

Healy
R Johnston
O'Boyle

Loughery
Crozier
Scullion

A Gallagher
M McCann

Kelly
Sweeney
Murray

T McCann
Magill
M Johnston

Was the team but Niblock came in for Magill and Owen Gallagher came in for Aodhan Gallagher before kick off. Gallagher came on very soon as Kelly seemed to be injured. Magill came on for Owen Gallagher and Armstrong came on for Conor Murray I think. O'Hagan came on for Healy late on to score the winner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: Magicsponge on July 14, 2012, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Kerr

Healy
R Johnston
O'Boyle

Loughery
Crozier
Scullion

A Gallagher
M McCann

Kelly
Sweeney
Murray

T McCann
Magill
M Johnston

Was the team but Niblock came in for Magill and Owen Gallagher came in for Aodhan Gallagher before kick off. Gallagher came on very soon as Kelly seemed to be injured. Magill came on for Owen Gallagher and Armstrong came on for Conor Murray I think. O'Hagan came on for Healy late on to score the winner.

Thanks.

More than decent side on paper and confirms my point re. Derry on the other thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on July 14, 2012, 11:23:10 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Thats how the Team was lined out:
With sweeney playin as a sweeper and gallacher at centre half forward with Niblock and Tomas McCann playin as a 2 man forward line

Kerr

Crozier
R.Johnston
Kevin O'Boyle

Healy
Scullion
M.Johnston

Kelly
M.McCann

Loughery
Sweeney
Murray

T. McCann
O.Gallacher
Niblock

Aidso came on for kelly after 20 mins
Magill on for O. Gallacher as he never touched ball hardly, sub could ave been made sooner
Armstrong on for Murray
Supersub O'Hagan on for Healy to score a superb winner


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 11:34:11 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on July 14, 2012, 11:23:10 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Thats how the Team was lined out:
With sweeney playin as a sweeper and gallacher at centre half forward with Niblock and Tomas McCann playin as a 2 man forward line

Kerr

Crozier
R.Johnston
Kevin O'Boyle

Healy
Scullion
M.Johnston

Kelly
M.McCann

Loughery
Sweeney
Murray

T. McCann
O.Gallacher
Niblock

Aidso came on for kelly after 20 mins
Magill on for O. Gallacher as he never touched ball hardly, sub could ave been made sooner
Armstrong on for Murray
Supersub O'Hagan on for Healy to score a superb winner

Good man. See my post at 11:16:11 PM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 14, 2012, 09:42:01 PM
Hey big Hoof, not often the Saffrons go on longer than the Oak Leaf!

That 15 you talk of, Marty Johnston, is still only 19 was at St Pats Maghera this year. For his age he was immense today. Creggan men but 50%good Portglenone stock.

wont be the first the way things are going !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 15, 2012, 01:06:30 AM
What about thon beauty of a point from Deaghlin O Hagan. Some composure and him just on the pitch.

Up there with Kobys V Tir Connail 2009 vintage as one of the ones that will stand out for a long long time.

No better man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on July 15, 2012, 01:15:57 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Antrim beating Galway in a hurling qualifier/championship is a big deal, Antrim beating Galway (Who haven't won a game outside Connacht in 10 years) isn't the same thing, so as a Derry man relax and wind your f**king neck in.

As for all the posters "supporting Galway", most North Antrim hurling folk have no interest in Antrim footballers so probably couldn't give two good ones how the game went, the same way people from SW Antrim have no interest in the hurlers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2012, 01:22:58 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 15, 2012, 01:15:57 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Antrim beating Galway in a hurling qualifier/championship is a big deal, Antrim beating Galway (Who haven't won a game outside Connacht in 10 years) isn't the same thing, so as a Derry man relax and wind your f**king neck in.

As for all the posters "supporting Galway", most North Antrim hurling folk have no interest in Antrim footballers so probably couldn't give two good ones how the game went, the same way people from SW Antrim have no interest in the hurlers.
Was there a match on today after the minor match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 01:27:21 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 15, 2012, 01:15:57 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Can you imagine the traffic there would be on the hurling thread if the stick fighters beat Galway at their crude version of the ancient caman game?

Not one of the regular posters on that thread has had the good grace to post on here. Probably all supporting Galway if truth be told.

As for myself, still stuck on the mainland, what was the team today?

Antrim beating Galway in a hurling qualifier/championship is a big deal, Antrim beating Galway (Who haven't won a game outside Connacht in 10 years) isn't the same thing, so as a Derry man relax and wind your f**king neck in.

As for all the posters "supporting Galway", most North Antrim hurling folk have no interest in Antrim footballers so probably couldn't give two good ones how the game went, the same way people from SW Antrim have no interest in the hurlers.

holy f**k, growing up it used to be taig/prod, black/white, man/woman - now its north derry/south derry, antrim footballer/hurler, etc, etc, is anyone ever going to agree ?

as i said before, today was my 1st cship match in the flesh as 6 years, and the support around me for antrim was fantastic, but, as they say, there's always one.........or several in thee days !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2012, 01:32:46 AM
I can't believe there are Gaels in Antrim who don't give a hoot about football. You're the one county who can adequately compete in both codes. Be proud of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 15, 2012, 01:39:52 AM
Saffrongael - your bang out of order.

SW Antrim GAA folk also love the game of hurling. Its played in at least half of the SW Antrim clubs, and at least four of them have supplied the occasional hurler to the county squad.

It may be the worst season in recent memory for the Antrim Hurling community, but the Football community dont take any pleasure in that at all.

In the meantime wind your neck in a bit and allow the long(er) suffering football follower to enjoy a win for a division three side against a division one side. Is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 15, 2012, 06:22:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 15, 2012, 01:39:52 AM
Saffrongael - your bang out of order.

SW Antrim GAA folk also love the game of hurling. Its played in at least half of the SW Antrim clubs, and at least four of them have supplied the occasional hurler to the county squad.

It may be the worst season in recent memory for the Antrim Hurling community, but the Football community dont take any pleasure in that at all.

In the meantime wind your neck in a bit and allow the long(er) suffering football follower to enjoy a win for a division three side against a division one side. Is that too much to ask?

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2012, 12:00:42 PM
Some of you boys need to wise up. Some people like hurling and not football -so what. Just be happy.

Great day for the footballers -one of the biggest victories I've ever seen. still over the moon.

Next round will be tough but sure we were going to be beat out the gate last game too. Hoping for a home draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 15, 2012, 01:04:50 PM
5 reasons why the footballers are improving:

1. Very few mis-placed passes
2. Very few bad wides
3. Tight at the back
4. Subs did well
5. United


5 areas to improve on:
1. Could we squeeze a full forward into our tactics
2. Will our tactics create goal chances?
3. Can we get a couple more forwards onto the score sheet
4. Free taking - out of the hands?
5. Let it go a bit quicker into the forwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: micko12368 on July 15, 2012, 11:48:11 PM
Noticed on main GAA thread, a topic called ex county players still playing at an auld age. Any of our county auld boys still playing at senior level and whatt age are they now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2012, 08:50:16 AM
Oh we`re goin on the rip on the trip to Tipp!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 16, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
Quote from: micko12368 on July 15, 2012, 11:48:11 PM
Noticed on main GAA thread, a topic called ex county players still playing at an auld age. Any of our county auld boys still playing at senior level and whatt age are they now?

Martin Mulholland still playing for Glenravel. What age would he be now? At least 40
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 16, 2012, 11:06:01 AM
Tipp is winnable but will be tough away. Players cant afford to be complacent just cause we beat Galway. Tipp, like us were in Div 2 for a year recently and are well organised and good on their day so it'll be tough. They also wrecked us in Ardfinnan in 2008 when we should've been promoted from Div 4 for the first time in years

Dont like the Down/Donegal draw but only consolation is that the loser will have the head down and little time to prepare. Sligo or Clare would have been better although Dublin Meath may have been worse
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 02:02:23 PM
The down donegal draw is ok if it's Down... They're Marty Clarke and Caolan Mooney less this year plus Benny not as fit.

However we shouldn't think too far ahead... Tipp have some very handy forwards. It's a game we have to believe we can win but Tipp will feel that too so all to play for.

I'd prefer to see Magill on so we have a target in the FF line but I would expect more from Niblock when he isn't being marked by someone of the quality of Finnian Hanley.

If we defend like we did last week no reason why we can't win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leave er in on July 16, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 02:02:23 PM
The down donegal draw is ok if it's Down... They're Marty Clarke and Caolan Mooney less this year plus Benny not as fit.

However we shouldn't think too far ahead... Tipp have some very handy forwards. It's a game we have to believe we can win but Tipp will feel that too so all to play for.

I'd prefer to see Magill on so we have a target in the FF line but I would expect more from Niblock when he isn't being marked by someone of the quality of Finnian Hanley.

If we defend like we did last week no reason why we can't win it.

Agreed, great win and a good display but id prefer to see and out and out inside forward possibly magill, playing with although all very talented primarily 6 half forwards is always going to lead to limited number of scores.

Thought Marty Johnston had a great game for being relatively inexperienced, however as a team nobody let the side down.

To tipp we go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 02:36:06 PM
Very strong on the ball Johnston considering he looks slight enough. Shook tackles well etc.

Especially defense we were good on saturday - I think Crozier is much better in the role he plays now too.

The reality is Baker draws so many men back it will never be too pretty but you have to do it to win sometimes.

Tough enough draw particularly with the away from home aspect but at this stage it's not a terribel draw for us either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on July 16, 2012, 02:43:58 PM
Obviously would have preferred to play this at home but it's not a bad draw. We won down there by a goal in the league so will take some confidence from that. If we play to our potential and treat Tipp with the same respect we gave Galway then we are good enough to prevail.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 16, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
Saturday 21st July - Semple Stadium

Tipperary v. Antrim  3:00pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 323232 on July 17, 2012, 04:49:31 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 17, 2012, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: AQMP on July 16, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
Saturday 21st July - Semple Stadium

Tipperary v. Antrim  3:00pm

Sounds like a hurling fixture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 17, 2012, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 17, 2012, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: AQMP on July 16, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
Saturday 21st July - Semple Stadium

Tipperary v. Antrim  3:00pm

Sounds like a hurling fixture.
The score will be a lot closer on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on July 18, 2012, 11:04:51 AM
Any busses going on Saturday? One I was meant to go on fell through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on July 19, 2012, 09:28:12 AM
Not a good start for Saturday- Very strange

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/aodhan-gallagher-quits-antrim-ahead-of-qualifier-against-tipperary-3173435.html
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on July 19, 2012, 09:31:19 AM
Yeah considering Doot got injured early on Saturday and Gallagher came on and played a blinder it's a huge blow. Doubt Kelly will be back so what do we have left for midfield? Gallagher supposed to be our captain too, bravo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on July 19, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 19, 2012, 09:31:19 AM
Yeah considering Doot got injured early on Saturday and Gallagher came on and played a blinder it's a huge blow. Doubt Kelly will be back so what do we have left for midfield? Gallagher supposed to be our captain too, bravo

I wouldn't go into criticising players decisions without knowing the background behind it, it may not be straight forward. And with the kind of fella that Aodhan is I wouldn't be judging his character one bit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 19, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Aodhan is one of the most genuine and committed people I have ever came across and if he has withdrew at this stage then it must be for a very good reason.

Baker doesnt like Galls men though...FACT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 19, 2012, 10:23:38 AM
Agree totally with last two posts. Aodhan top  lad, so it wont be a decision taken lightly.

You dont commit what Aodhan did over so many years to make a call like this without what he feels is a good reason. Posters advised not to jump in head first on this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2012, 12:01:18 PM
That's not good. Real pity as he was very good and I think swung the game a good bit for us saturday.

The guy definitely seems very genuine and commited.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 19, 2012, 01:40:56 PM
'Personal Problems'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/18899538

Quote
Saffrons shock as captain Aodhan Gallagher quits panel

Antrim have suffered a major blow ahead of the All-Ireland qualifier against Tipperary after captain Aodhan Gallagher left the panel.

The midfielder said he was quitting because of "personal problems".

"Aodhan decided he had no option but to withdraw from the panel as he could not give the necessary committment," said Saffrons manager Liam Bradley.

Bradley added that it was "very doubtful" that Gallagher would return to the panel this season.

The Saffrons boss was reading from a statement which said that Gallagher told the Antrim management team of "personal problems that he was experiencing at present".

Gallagher's exit follows the departure from the panel of star forward Paddy Cunningham earlier this season.

Meanwhile, Conal Kelly will miss the Thurles qualifier after suffering a hamstring injury in the thrilling victory over Galway.

Bradley goes into the game with confidence, despite the absence of Gallagher.

"We work with a panel of 35 players and someone's loss is someone else's gain," he said.

"I've not doubt we will be victorious on Saturday although it is going to be tough.

"If we want to go further in this competition we should be beating teams of the calibre of Tipperary."

Don't know what you can read into that. Sometimes the personal problems thing can mean a rift with the manager or it can sometimes mean actual personal problems. I hope for Antrim's sake that either situation can be sorted out in a relatively short space of time! He's an excellent player who's given huge service to Antrim. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 19, 2012, 02:11:01 PM
That's a big disappointment but we have to respect the fella.  Kelly was also playing well before he came off last day.  Are Tipp strong in the middle?  I thought Antrim looked physically strong against Galway so it'd be a pity to lose a few big men.   I'm sure we'll see Gallagher back in the middle in the future.       
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: sheamy on July 19, 2012, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 19, 2012, 01:40:56 PM
"If we want to go further in this competition we should be beating teams of the calibre of Tipperary."

He'd need to deliver after a statement like that! Tipp are no push overs and I can imagine won't take that well...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on July 20, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
Gallagher a huge loss for Antrim, typical of Baker to piss off our best player before biggest game in years. GA for manager next season . Heard last night that Rasharkin mentors got banned til the end of season after brawl in Creggan , just bloody right!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 20, 2012, 12:00:20 PM
So Baker pissed him off ?

I do know the true story but would be interested in hearing your version.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 20, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
Well he was dropped before the Galway game, so why did he stick about for that game? Was it due to Aodhan being away the week before the Galway game? Also, he didn't seem at all interested before the game, but played very well when he was introduced, strange one. No chance of him still being there this Sat?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 21, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
Cityslicker mentions that Aidso didnt look interested before the Galway game. I didnt pick up on that. But funnily enough I did notice that unusually he was not wearing his county socks - he was wearing his St Galls socks! No doubt there will be two equally compelling stories/reasons, where the blame lies for his departure etc.

He will be a miss, especially if we progress beyond todays match, and need a strong panel. TBH we are not coming down with natural midfielders into the bargain. He has good workrate and leadership qualities too which will be missed as well though.

Makes todays stakes higher, especially with Bakers comments about the "calibre " of Tipperary. They are no bad team, and if we get past this one, I would see it as a decent scalp - definitely not a mediocre one.

Big crowd going down from here. The Portglenone/Moneyglass/Ahoghill "ultras" are on their way already - remember them from Ballybofey 09! Come on the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 21, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
Cityslicker mentions that Aidso didnt look interested before the Galway game. I didnt pick up on that. But funnily enough I did notice that unusually he was not wearing his county socks - he was wearing his St Galls socks! No doubt there will be two equally compelling stories/reasons, where the blame lies for his departure etc.

He will be a miss, especially if we progress beyond todays match, and need a strong panel. TBH we are not coming down with natural midfielders into the bargain. He has good workrate and leadership qualities too which will be missed as well though.

Makes todays stakes higher, especially with Bakers comments about the "calibre " of Tipperary. They are no bad team, and if we get past this one, I would see it as a decent scalp - definitely not a mediocre one.

Big crowd going down from here. The Portglenone/Moneyglass/Ahoghill "ultras" are on their way already - remember them from Ballybofey 09! Come on the Saffrons.

I thought the crowd down I was with made a bigger impression in 09!!! We had the disco crew with Afro wigs on!! Christ what a laugh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 23, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
Who all went to Thurles?

And for those who didnt go, why not?

Money?
Time?
Dont give a f**k?

I always find before travelling you be like what am i doing but when you get down your always glad u went
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 23, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 21, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
Cityslicker mentions that Aidso didnt look interested before the Galway game. I didnt pick up on that. But funnily enough I did notice that unusually he was not wearing his county socks - he was wearing his St Galls socks! No doubt there will be two equally compelling stories/reasons, where the blame lies for his departure etc.

He will be a miss, especially if we progress beyond todays match, and need a strong panel. TBH we are not coming down with natural midfielders into the bargain. He has good workrate and leadership qualities too which will be missed as well though.

Makes todays stakes higher, especially with Bakers comments about the "calibre " of Tipperary. They are no bad team, and if we get past this one, I would see it as a decent scalp - definitely not a mediocre one.

Big crowd going down from here. The Portglenone/Moneyglass/Ahoghill "ultras" are on their way already - remember them from Ballybofey 09! Come on the Saffrons.

I thought the crowd down I was with made a bigger impression in 09!!! We had the disco crew with Afro wigs on!! Christ what a laugh

bannside is talking about Antrim fans though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 23, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 21, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
Cityslicker mentions that Aidso didnt look interested before the Galway game. I didnt pick up on that. But funnily enough I did notice that unusually he was not wearing his county socks - he was wearing his St Galls socks! No doubt there will be two equally compelling stories/reasons, where the blame lies for his departure etc.

He will be a miss, especially if we progress beyond todays match, and need a strong panel. TBH we are not coming down with natural midfielders into the bargain. He has good workrate and leadership qualities too which will be missed as well though.

Makes todays stakes higher, especially with Bakers comments about the "calibre " of Tipperary. They are no bad team, and if we get past this one, I would see it as a decent scalp - definitely not a mediocre one.

Big crowd going down from here. The Portglenone/Moneyglass/Ahoghill "ultras" are on their way already - remember them from Ballybofey 09! Come on the Saffrons.

I thought the crowd down I was with made a bigger impression in 09!!! We had the disco crew with Afro wigs on!! Christ what a laugh

bannside is talking about Antrim fans though.

Ha !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2012, 11:04:13 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 23, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 21, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
Cityslicker mentions that Aidso didnt look interested before the Galway game. I didnt pick up on that. But funnily enough I did notice that unusually he was not wearing his county socks - he was wearing his St Galls socks! No doubt there will be two equally compelling stories/reasons, where the blame lies for his departure etc.

He will be a miss, especially if we progress beyond todays match, and need a strong panel. TBH we are not coming down with natural midfielders into the bargain. He has good workrate and leadership qualities too which will be missed as well though.

Makes todays stakes higher, especially with Bakers comments about the "calibre " of Tipperary. They are no bad team, and if we get past this one, I would see it as a decent scalp - definitely not a mediocre one.

Big crowd going down from here. The Portglenone/Moneyglass/Ahoghill "ultras" are on their way already - remember them from Ballybofey 09! Come on the Saffrons.

I thought the crowd down I was with made a bigger impression in 09!!! We had the disco crew with Afro wigs on!! Christ what a laugh

bannside is talking about Antrim fans though.

Sure Donegal are some team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 10:33:57 AM
County seeking internal applications for both managerial positions with the holders of both positions being considered

If Baker wants the football job I can't see it being changed. For Hurling- god knows
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on July 24, 2012, 10:57:36 AM
Was Gallagher a big miss - Kelly seemed to do well first 20 against galway and must of been a loss - who was good or bad?
Where was game lost?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 11:05:22 AM
Game was lost in Thurles I believe ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 24, 2012, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: otbar on July 24, 2012, 10:57:36 AM
Was Gallagher a big miss - Kelly seemed to do well first 20 against galway and must of been a loss - who was good or bad?
Where was game lost?

No 'Plan B' when Tipp stuck to playing man on man and didn't fall for the usual bringing half-forwards into defence.  Little or no option for a pass in the forward line when half-backs / half-forwards broke out into space. Tipp better on the break - probably a more athletic side overall than Antrim. Several relatively easy frees missed (lack of left-footed free taker). Too much of the sunbeds/fake Tan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2012, 10:55:08 PM
Baker has instilled a lot more belief in Antrim football and fair play to him for that but he has never brought a plan b - swamp defence, play with little or no forwards and counter is the only tactic he seems to play. Sometimes this leaves us with 2 forwards at most against multiple defenders and it's never going to work against any half decent team.

We actually have footballers at the minute capable of executing a much more positive gameplan. When he started we did not.

Couldn't make the game Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 25, 2012, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Gold on July 23, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
Who all went to Thurles?

And for those who didnt go, why not?

Money?
Time?
Dont give a f**k?

I always find before travelling you be like what am i doing but when you get down your always glad u went

Being exiled in the Wesht and with a still relatively young family (who have absolutely zero interest in Antrim GAA) and because of work commitments we don't see a huge amount of each other during the week, so I'd be lucky to get to one game a year at this stage.  But in an ideal world I'd go to them all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on July 27, 2012, 01:10:53 PM
I was in Tipperary,and watched as management decisions 'threw away' a game which Antrim should have won.
In simple terms, Tipp were a bigger, physical team, with limited footballing capability, assisted by a Laois (might as well be home-town referee).
In the first half we played into a 'reasonably strong' wind (similar to C'ment v Galway), conceded scores because the Tipp no. 11, was allowed 'free-rein' over the pitch We don't have a centre-half' as such in Baker's teams, so the no. 11 who is normally the 'creative' player for the opposition can run amok. He did. We kicked 9/10 easily scored wides. We scored after 18 mins, and were heading to HT 5-1 down. Locky gets his first opportunities, runs through their defence, and scores twice, and we go in 6-2 down. Game on and very winnable - now playing with the wind, and only 2 points down. Big Ricky injured before HT. Baker brings his bro back, replaces Ricky with young Armstrong (marked by a guy who was 3-4 inches taller, and 2 stone heavier), and brings Locky back to join Sweeny as the SECOND SWEEPER! We now have isolated Brady (who was having a good game and was going to win the game for us) and Niblock, who is eventually subbed.
No point is saying any more. The remaining substitutions are as bad as the first one.
The truth is our management team threw away a win v Monaghan, with bad substitutions. Bad preparation, almost cost the game in Ruislip. The team got themselves home against G'way, and Baker and his henchmen 'threw' the Tipp game! Can you imagine training from last year 3/4 times a week, and decisions by a bad management team finishes the season.
How many of the current panel will waste another year with the current management team? He / GA should have been sacked after Monaghan, and, like Armagh we could have had a manager in place who could have watched all the County C'ship games before picking his team / panel.
Odds-on we are in Division 4, after next season, unless we ship this management team out.
Bradley was fine three years ago to create discipline, and order, but he's limited in his capabilities. GA brings nothing to the table.
I thought that Gallagher's absence would not be critical, but it was, and his contribution might have helped us get over the line. I understand he's enjoying a nice holiday - the statement had be be "prepared", in order to protect the team, and that was fine.
I hope every true Saffron asks if he enjoyed his holiday when he turns up with Galls. Totally disappeared in my estimation as a man, but maybe it shows that the McGourty DNA is more embedded in that club, than could have been believed.
By the way, Saffrons outnumbered the Tipp supporters, and it was great to see. Fair play to those who travelled.
Congrats, and thank you to a great bunch of players (with the  obvious exception)!who did their best, played some great football, when they were allowed, and gave us some great days in the sun!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2012, 10:22:28 AM
Some interesting comments NL - obviously you put the blame of the defeat firmly on the management team.

Definitely it has to be said that the opportunity to make the last 8 of the AI was never greater, and in defence of the management they didnt miss the vital frees, or give the ball away with a wayward pass that led to Tipp scores. Had Michaels effort hit the net we would have looked forward to a 50/50 game with an ordinary enough Down team. But it has to be agreed that the London  and Tipp matches were not good team performances in relation to the good displays against Monaghan and particularly Galway.

As a result the end of season prognosis is a mixed bag. Some good, some ok, some very average.

The management team should signal their clear intent. If they have the desire for another year, and particularly if Baker feels he can get the dressing room galvanised one more time - then he needs to come out right now and say it that he really wants this, and can do this etc etc....

What is not acceptable is if he sits back to see if he can get the Derry job (his top ambition) and if successful off he goes. If un-successful - ah well sure he might as well try to hang on and do another year with Antrim.

This situation would be totally un-satisfactory, and the county management committee and genuine supporters should not be sucked into that scenario. Time for Jim Murray and co to get a handle on this, and not allow this to drag on.

Four years takes its toll on even the best managers, and the need to freshen the dressing room up is a priority. Baker has done enough to be warmly remembered, some good c`ship victories and memories, and not too many are queueing up to demand his resignation. but we cant be left in a situation where we react to whether or not he goes for/gets the Derry job.

Would Baker please let Antrim know, publicly and without any fudge, if he prefers ANTRIM  over any other post for next season - and this being the case, let the county and clubs have the debate on whether we are happy to go with this on the basis of all known information.

As an Antrim supporter what I would like is a very clear expression of where he sees his loyalties lie if he plans to be considered for another year with the Saffrons - or is he planning to put in a bid for the Derry job (if that one becomes available). If he wants another year with us, and comes out clearly and makes that public, I think it would be the least he could do for the supporters who came out for him in good numbers.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on July 27, 2012, 01:10:53 PM
I was in Tipperary,and watched as management decisions 'threw away' a game which Antrim should have won.
In simple terms, Tipp were a bigger, physical team, with limited footballing capability, assisted by a Laois (might as well be home-town referee).
In the first half we played into a 'reasonably strong' wind (similar to C'ment v Galway), conceded scores because the Tipp no. 11, was allowed 'free-rein' over the pitch We don't have a centre-half' as such in Baker's teams, so the no. 11 who is normally the 'creative' player for the opposition can run amok. He did. We kicked 9/10 easily scored wides. We scored after 18 mins, and were heading to HT 5-1 down. Locky gets his first opportunities, runs through their defence, and scores twice, and we go in 6-2 down. Game on and very winnable - now playing with the wind, and only 2 points down. Big Ricky injured before HT. Baker brings his bro back, replaces Ricky with young Armstrong (marked by a guy who was 3-4 inches taller, and 2 stone heavier), and brings Locky back to join Sweeny as the SECOND SWEEPER! We now have isolated Brady (who was having a good game and was going to win the game for us) and Niblock, who is eventually subbed.
No point is saying any more. The remaining substitutions are as bad as the first one.
The truth is our management team threw away a win v Monaghan, with bad substitutions. Bad preparation, almost cost the game in Ruislip. The team got themselves home against G'way, and Baker and his henchmen 'threw' the Tipp game! Can you imagine training from last year 3/4 times a week, and decisions by a bad management team finishes the season.
How many of the current panel will waste another year with the current management team? He / GA should have been sacked after Monaghan, and, like Armagh we could have had a manager in place who could have watched all the County C'ship games before picking his team / panel.
Odds-on we are in Division 4, after next season, unless we ship this management team out.
Bradley was fine three years ago to create discipline, and order, but he's limited in his capabilities. GA brings nothing to the table.
I thought that Gallagher's absence would not be critical, but it was, and his contribution might have helped us get over the line. I understand he's enjoying a nice holiday - the statement had be be "prepared", in order to protect the team, and that was fine.
I hope every true Saffron asks if he enjoyed his holiday when he turns up with Galls. Totally disappeared in my estimation as a man, but maybe it shows that the McGourty DNA is more embedded in that club, than could have been believed.
By the way, Saffrons outnumbered the Tipp supporters, and it was great to see. Fair play to those who travelled.
Congrats, and thank you to a great bunch of players (with the  obvious exception)!who did their best, played some great football, when they were allowed, and gave us some great days in the sun!

Stop talking shite Northern light. If you know the whole story then you can comment on it, if not, then piss off to the stone that you crawled from.

Antrim were not beat because of St Galls or Aidso not being there. He wasn't much thought of for the Galway game so I doubt his presence against Tipp would not have mattered.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 28, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: Northern Light on July 27, 2012, 01:10:53 PM
I was in Tipperary,and watched as management decisions 'threw away' a game which Antrim should have won.
In simple terms, Tipp were a bigger, physical team, with limited footballing capability, assisted by a Laois (might as well be home-town referee).
In the first half we played into a 'reasonably strong' wind (similar to C'ment v Galway), conceded scores because the Tipp no. 11, was allowed 'free-rein' over the pitch We don't have a centre-half' as such in Baker's teams, so the no. 11 who is normally the 'creative' player for the opposition can run amok. He did. We kicked 9/10 easily scored wides. We scored after 18 mins, and were heading to HT 5-1 down. Locky gets his first opportunities, runs through their defence, and scores twice, and we go in 6-2 down. Game on and very winnable - now playing with the wind, and only 2 points down. Big Ricky injured before HT. Baker brings his bro back, replaces Ricky with young Armstrong (marked by a guy who was 3-4 inches taller, and 2 stone heavier), and brings Locky back to join Sweeny as the SECOND SWEEPER! We now have isolated Brady (who was having a good game and was going to win the game for us) and Niblock, who is eventually subbed.
No point is saying any more. The remaining substitutions are as bad as the first one.
The truth is our management team threw away a win v Monaghan, with bad substitutions. Bad preparation, almost cost the game in Ruislip. The team got themselves home against G'way, and Baker and his henchmen 'threw' the Tipp game! Can you imagine training from last year 3/4 times a week, and decisions by a bad management team finishes the season.
How many of the current panel will waste another year with the current management team? He / GA should have been sacked after Monaghan, and, like Armagh we could have had a manager in place who could have watched all the County C'ship games before picking his team / panel.
Odds-on we are in Division 4, after next season, unless we ship this management team out.
Bradley was fine three years ago to create discipline, and order, but he's limited in his capabilities. GA brings nothing to the table.
I thought that Gallagher's absence would not be critical, but it was, and his contribution might have helped us get over the line. I understand he's enjoying a nice holiday - the statement had be be "prepared", in order to protect the team, and that was fine.
I hope every true Saffron asks if he enjoyed his holiday when he turns up with Galls. Totally disappeared in my estimation as a man, but maybe it shows that the McGourty DNA is more embedded in that club, than could have been believed.
By the way, Saffrons outnumbered the Tipp supporters, and it was great to see. Fair play to those who travelled.
Congrats, and thank you to a great bunch of players (with the  obvious exception)!who did their best, played some great football, when they were allowed, and gave us some great days in the sun!

Stop talking shite Northern light. If you know the whole story then you can comment on it, if not, then piss off to the stone that you crawled from.

Antrim were not beat because of St Galls or Aidso not being there. He wasn't much thought of for the Galway game so I doubt his presence against Tipp would not have mattered.

Milltown, he didnt start against Galway (anyone can be dropped) but came on after 10mins.

From the outside, it doesnt look good-a county captain leaving to go on holiday prior to the biggest game of the year. Unless he comes out and gives a different story, that is the story that will stick.

I know its an amateur sport and he's given great commitment in the past but it meas alot to alot of people and people will be annoyed and upset with him. With him we would have had a better chance to beat Tipp- and a better chance to beat a poor Down team today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
Why did he not start his captain? Would he have started against Tipp? Lot of posters seemed to know all the answers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 29, 2012, 02:57:15 PM
More to the point, if Baker wants/gets another year, will Aidso make himself available? Does he feel that he was messed about, or is it a simple case of having a holiday booked? He is a big personality on the panel and one of only a couple of midfielders we have capable of cutting it at inter -county level. Definitely made a good contribution in the games I saw him play in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on July 29, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
Dropped for Galway as he was in Wales in lead up to it I thought?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 29, 2012, 07:29:41 PM
Dropped for Galway as he was in Wales in lead up to it I thought?

I'm sure there was good communication between manager and captain throughout the year, why all of a sudden was he dropped? I'm sure Baker knew well in advance of any arrangements Aidso had made. Sure ifs buts and maybes. Down beat a poor Tipp team handy enough.

Aidso was asked onto the hurling panel this year and wanted to do both, but with the captaincy of the Antrim footballers he decided not to do both. his commitment to Antrim over the years has been great, for arseholes to come on here and rubbish him is bad form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2012, 11:02:15 PM
Mr every time someone says something against a st galls guy they are arseholes.

I think Gallagher has always been very committed and think it's a shame about the whole thing.

If you know the full story then why don't you tell us? I wouldn't be entirely sure that if it was some boy from another club you'd not be on here saying what some are saying about Gallagher...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2012, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 29, 2012, 11:02:15 PM
Mr every time someone says something against a st galls guy they are arseholes.

I think Gallagher has always been very committed and think it's a shame about the whole thing.

If you know the full story then why don't you tell us? I wouldn't be entirely sure that if it was some boy from another club you'd not be on here saying what some are saying about Gallagher...

Well check back on my posts regarding players going away on holidays, I doubt that I have done much on it. Knowing the story and not revealing it on a public forum is fine with me, Aidos is a good lad great family so I'll not bother with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 29, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
If Tipp had beat Down we would have been looking at Aidso missing as a legitimate reason/excuse - but in fairness a morale depleted Down put them away handily enough. I also know Aidso well enough to know he is a good guy and a principled one too. Can see both sides here. If Aidso has a beef, he wont be wanting it put about here or anywhere else. At the same time, genuine supporters always want to see our top men out and at it come c`ship time, and booking a holiday in peak season wont sit easily with the devoted.

I said previously there will definitely be two sides to this - and maybe its one to let go.

Question for me though is, will Aidso play big ball or wee ball next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 01, 2012, 11:05:58 PM
I hope that clear goal for Rossa v St Pauls was given --on Jerome Quinn Media website--Rossa goal blasted high to net but went through stupid hole in net--Paul's umpire signaled a point--some neck on him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 02, 2012, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 01, 2012, 11:37:16 PM
Kevin Murray scooped cheating.

I think most others would have done the same, myself excepted.

Makes him look like a right eejit though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 02, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 02, 2012, 09:25:18 PM
Yip. It's one thing that does my head in about club games, having two umpires from each club. Every game there is a row because one boy gives a wide and the other boy a point. Cheating cnuts. I have seen plenty of fcukwits from our club at their lark too.

Embarrassing getting snared on video at it though. Take a bow, Murray.

Every game there's an incident with an umpire--farcical

Here's the link to the video for a laugh:

http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/video/Antrim-Clubs-2011/Rossa/Goal-or-Point-Rossa-v-St-Pauls-1058

Was the goal given??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2012, 09:49:38 PM
Linesmen at lesser matches can be the same.

I was at a match where a boy from one team caught the ball and carried it out over the sideline -with no one near him. He got the line ball.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 02, 2012, 09:51:59 PM
Your umpire should be worth 2 points a game. As for Line balls --farce!

Good win for LD last night. Championship is where it matters though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 02, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
And how does that help when it comes to championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 02, 2012, 10:03:14 PM
OD's promoted to Div 2 --get the hot dogs out!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on August 02, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 02, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 02, 2012, 09:25:18 PM
Yip. It's one thing that does my head in about club games, having two umpires from each club. Every game there is a row because one boy gives a wide and the other boy a point. Cheating cnuts. I have seen plenty of fcukwits from our club at their lark too.

Embarrassing getting snared on video at it though. Take a bow, Murray.

Every game there's an incident with an umpire--farcical

Here's the link to the video for a laugh:

http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/video/Antrim-Clubs-2011/Rossa/Goal-or-Point-Rossa-v-St-Pauls-1058

Was the goal given??

Fair fucks to him  :D

Nothing worse than when theres a controversial decision, i.e. dubious pt or 45/wide, and your umpire hms and hahs while the other one is adamant its in his teams favour, naturally the ref if he isnt sure will be influenced by he who shouts loudest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 04, 2012, 06:20:15 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 02, 2012, 10:03:14 PM
OD's promoted to Div 2 --get the hot dogs out!!!!

Hahahaha excellent. Here it is again http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/video/Antrim-Clubs-2011/Eire-Og/Movie-Star-Joe-McVeigh-Antrim-JFC-Winner-707
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 04, 2012, 07:10:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 04, 2012, 06:30:32 PM
Are O'Ds still playing junior or were they finally made to move up? They won it 2 years in a row FFS.

Dropped down to Junior B!

Intermediate now--playing Tir na og
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 06, 2012, 07:41:01 AM
I am amazed at the appointment of the official for the lamhs v galls in the championship game this weekend after what allegedly occurred at Cargin and St Johns, what does that say about our county and its executive, it beggars belief, if I was the two clubs I would object immediately and ask for another official to be appointed!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 09, 2012, 03:54:10 PM
Anyone any insights to the Antrim championship games this weekend ?

Any chance of Lamh Dearg upsetting St Galls ?

Are Creggan a good thing to beat Moneyglass ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2012, 05:20:34 PM
Lamhs have a punchers chance. Beat us in league last week and their young lads have now had the experience from last year to help them. On paper we should win. Be tight though for long periods.

Creggan should win handy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 10, 2012, 09:08:03 AM
Cheers MR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 10, 2012, 01:30:38 PM
Great match in store tomorrow night, the tried and tested and against the self proclaimed up and coming. Do St Galls have their normally injury worries around this time of the year? Yet they still always get through because of the strength of their panel. Lamh Dhearg should have a full selection, with some exceptionally talented players included. Hope both teams perform to their full capabilities and produce a game that Antrim club football can be proud of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Move er on on August 10, 2012, 02:08:49 PM
I have no doubt that if the game goes from beyond Lamhs grasp they will resort to their usual repertoire of durt that we have become so accustomed to in recent years.  I fully expect Galls to take a 4 point lead and play their usual 7s style keep ball.

Agree that Creggan should win out easy.

Brids v Pauls should be a good game and ill go for a Pauls win by the minimum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: chocoholic on August 11, 2012, 11:29:30 PM
Was down at the matches tonight.  First match was brutal, St Pauls are dung.  St Brigids not great either but much more mature and composed than St Pauls.

Second match was interesting at times although all in all a bit of a dull affair.  St Galls seemed to be able to kick on at any stage they needed to although they probably wont be too happy with their performance.  Lamh Dhearg could have done better if they made better use of their possession and chances at the start of the second half (hit the post twice).  A few handbags in the game but it never really exploded into anything exciting. St Galls just seemed to get their scores much easier than Lamh Dhearg.

Some really annoying St Galls woman sitting in the concrete seating area below us at the end was entertaining screaming at the top of her lungs at the end of match "The Silence of the lambssssssss, the silence of the lambssssssssssssssss, Hannibal Lecterrrrrrrrrr". Fcukin nutjob!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: chocoholic on August 11, 2012, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2012, 11:41:11 PM
How did St. Galls line out? They have been missing a rake of players all year and have, at times, had barely 15. Back at full strength?

Everyone was in stitches at her.

They had a huge panel.  I wouldn't know loads of names mate but both teams played conventional (ie no sweepers).

The big keeper Kerr didnt have much to do.  They had one shakey player in the full back line, got skinned a few times in the second half.  Colin Brady had to come off pretty early, must be an injury.  Half back line they were sound, Mark Kelly (i think), Anto Healy and Sean Kelly were steady enough although the latter wasnt in his usual classy form.  Midfield, big Gallagher was poor enough in the first half but very effective in kick starting them in the second half when they needed it.  Niblock was brillian, just oozes class. LD tried to double up on him a bit but he was so effective with the ball.  CJ was quiet, Karl Stewart when he wasn't getting booked and fighting worked hard and got one (again I think) good score. The number 28 Michael Pollock was good. Scored about 4 or 5.

LD huffed and puffed a bit. The big keeper done a cluxton to bring them level in the second half and that when they stopped playing.  Full back line were ok, the fella on Michael Pollock was took off but the other two done well enough.  Half back line didnt attack enough for me when they could have.  We ginger number 7 had a steady game.  I watched the number 5 a few times and he had acres of grass in front of him to provide an option for a score but didn't go for it.  Cunningham was very quiet.  Big Brendy Herron tried hard and was on the ball a good bit but he just didnt have the players around him to match it.  One of the corner forwards were good but was unlucky to hit the post a few times.  They tried changing things way too late in injury time when they needed a goal.  Ended up hitting shots from 40 yards, pointless.

Lamh Dhearg never believed they could beat them.  St Galls were in second and third gear all match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on August 12, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
Was at the game too.  After the keeper put them level in the second half (which made it interesting) St Galls decided they wanted to play a bit and immediately re-took the lead.  Lamhs never looked like getting close to winning after that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 05:39:46 PM
Quote from: outinfront on August 12, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
Was at the game too.  After the keeper put them level in the second half (which made it interesting) St Galls decided they wanted to play a bit and immediately re-took the lead.  Lamhs never looked like getting close to winning after that.
Ah sure, it's only Antrim.  Lets see how they get on against the Cross men, a different story.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2012, 10:10:34 PM
We'd  never beat Cross. But you can only try, Lamhs wont be trying, thats for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 12, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Was at the galls game myself, thought the ref bottled it by not showing Stewart a 2nd yellow for a deliberate trip with 7/8mins left.

Kevin mcgourty done well when he appeared, 2 great blocks and a fine point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2012, 09:53:23 AM
Quote from: The Worker on August 12, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Was at the galls game myself, thought the ref bottled it by not showing Stewart a 2nd yellow for a deliberate trip with 7/8mins left.

Kevin mcgourty done well when he appeared, 2 great blocks and a fine point.

Did the referee bottled it when Karl was hit off the ball?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: chocoholic on August 13, 2012, 10:11:32 AM
I didnt see Karl getting hit off the ball but he should have been given a second yellow. Who do St Galls get in the next round then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2012, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 13, 2012, 10:11:32 AM
I didnt see Karl getting hit off the ball but he should have been given a second yellow. Who do St Galls get in the next round then?

St Galls play Creggan next weekend.

http://www.antrimgaa.net/uploads/newsimages/Antrim%20Championship%20Dates.pdf

Any idea when they release the actual venues/times of these matches if they are this coming weekend? Tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 13, 2012, 12:51:47 PM
Hot off the press....

Friday 17th August

JFC - St Agnes v Con Magees 7.00pm Casement Park
SFC - St Brigids v Ahoghill 8.30pm Casement Park

JFC - St Malachys v St Pats 7.15pm St Teresas

JFC - Ardoyne v Mc Dermotts 7.15pm Hightown

Saturday 18th August

JFC - Eire Og v Ballycastle 6.00pm Rossa

IFC - Sarsfields v St Teresas 6.00pm Hannahstown

IFC - Aldergrove v St Endas 7.00pm Whitehill

IFC - Aghagallon v Gortnamona 7.00pm Glenavy

Sunday 19th August

IFC - Glenavy v Tir Na nOg 1.00pm Ahoghill
SFC - Cargin v Rasharkin 2.45pm Ahoghill

SFC - Rossa v St Johns 5.00pm Casement Park
SFC - St Galls v Creggan 6.45pm Casement Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 13, 2012, 12:51:47 PM
Hot off the press....

Friday 17th August

JFC - St Agnes v Con Magees 7.00pm Casement Park
SFC - St Brigids v Ahoghill 8.30pm Casement Park

JFC - St Malachys v St Pats 7.15pm St Teresas

JFC - Ardoyne v Mc Dermotts 7.15pm Hightown

Saturday 18th August

JFC - Eire Og v Ballycastle 6.00pm Rossa

IFC - Sarsfields v St Teresas 6.00pm Hannahstown

IFC - Aldergrove v St Endas 7.00pm Whitehill

IFC - Aghagallon v Gortnamona 7.00pm Glenavy

Sunday 19th August

IFC - Glenavy v Tir Na nOg 1.00pm Ahoghill
SFC - Cargin v Rasharkin 2.45pm Ahoghill

SFC - Rossa v St Johns 5.00pm Casement Park
SFC - St Galls v Creggan 6.45pm Casement Park

Nice work - cheers.
Where you see these? Are following rounds for the hurling out as well?

Good double header Sunday early evening...certainly worth a look!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 13, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
Sent to clubs this morning - haven't heard any more about hurling fixtures other than they are first weekend in Sept.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on August 13, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 13, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
Sent to clubs this morning - haven't heard any more about hurling fixtures other than they are first weekend in Sept.


St Johns v Lamh Dhearg - Casement - 31 August 7.30pm

Loughgiel v Glenariffe - Armoy - 1st September 7pm

St Galls v Cushendall - Casement - 2nd September 2.30pm

Dunloy v Ballycastle - Loughgiel - 2nd September 6pm






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 13, 2012, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 13, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 13, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
Sent to clubs this morning - haven't heard any more about hurling fixtures other than they are first weekend in Sept.


St Johns v Lamh Dhearg - Casement - 31 August 7.30pm

Loughgiel v Glenariffe - Armoy - 1st September 7pm

St Galls v Cushendall - Casement - 2nd September 2.30pm

Dunloy v Ballycastle - Loughgiel - 2nd September 6pm

Cheers Minder - those fixtures have been on the website for a while. Was thinking more along the Junior championships etc. Assume some of the junior/intermediate fixtures will be tacked on to those as double headers??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 13, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2012, 09:53:23 AM
Quote from: The Worker on August 12, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Was at the galls game myself, thought the ref bottled it by not showing Stewart a 2nd yellow for a deliberate trip with 7/8mins left.

Kevin mcgourty done well when he appeared, 2 great blocks and a fine point.

Did the referee bottled it when Karl was hit off the ball?

No, the ref booked both players on advice of the linesman.

Both players were at it in fairness.

You need to take them tinted glasses off sometimes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Dont wear glasses. As a ref myself I prefer to yellow/red card the player who starts it. That being the case, it should prevent players in carrying out 'handbags' in the first place. The line, they were both at it is daft. Someone always starts it ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 14, 2012, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Dont wear glasses. As a ref myself I prefer to yellow/red card the player who starts it. That being the case, it should prevent players in carrying out 'handbags' in the first place. The line, they were both at it is daft. Someone always starts it ffs
You have been spotted wearing dark shades many a time, even when the rain is p@ssing down.  :-[

So is it not true Worker that Lambs were lucky not to be awarded a red or two themselves ? Did the ref bottle those decisions too  ? Who is wearing the tinted glasses ?
Game is over, game is won...creggan will be aiming to cause an upset this weekend and with us not playing up to our expected standards anything can happen. As for cross...a long way off and expect Pearse Ogs to give them a scare this year. All to play for still....well not for lambs ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 14, 2012, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Dont wear glasses. As a ref myself I prefer to yellow/red card the player who starts it. That being the case, it should prevent players in carrying out 'handbags' in the first place. The line, they were both at it is daft. Someone always starts it ffs
You have been spotted wearing dark shades many a time, even when the rain is p@ssing down.  :-[

So is it not true Worker that Lambs were lucky not to be awarded a red or two themselves ? Did the ref bottle those decisions too  ? Who is wearing the tinted glasses ?
Game is over, game is won...creggan will be aiming to cause an upset this weekend and with us not playing up to our expected standards anything can happen. As for cross...a long way off and expect Pearse Ogs to give them a scare this year. All to play for still....well not for lambs ;)

Apart from the Stewart incident, I can't think of any other which warranted a sending off (admittedly I left before the skirmish in added time).

If anything I thought the st galls where quite cynical at times, and the ref was shy on showing a yellow on a few occasions.

Just to clarify, I have no affinity to the lamhs, if anything I was behind st galls on Saturday night.

Just giving my account of what I saw on the night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on August 14, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
Cynical s the word. St Gall's "experience" showed through when LD had them all square. Niggling fouls on the LD defenders, carrying bal out, were not punished by the ref. As was intended, LD lost 'focus' for 10 minutes during the second half, and that was enough to give St G's the advantage. 'Repetitive' fouling is the amongst the worst aspects of 'modern' football, but it is the failure of refs to enforce existing laws against teams with this 'skill' in their locker, that is the problem. (CJ chased the LD no.6 for 30 yards before his lack of fitness surfaced, and he then pulled a perfect rugby dive, to try and 'clip' the heels of the no.6. He missed. He should have been carded by the ref who was standing beside the incident.). Kevin McG came on to play the pantomime 'villain', and pretend he wanted to fight with someone - simply 'time-wasting' tactics.
I'm no fan of either team, but it was disappointing to see bad refereeing (incompetent as opposed to biaised) spoil a game.
The problem is that this type of refereeing is spoiling the whole game, to the detriment of the entire county. The impact on the County team of these 'bad' club games is evident.
St G's will probably not get so far as Cross this time, and even if they do, Cross will administer the usual 'slapping'.
LD will return, and will hopefully improve their game, another notch, and they will beat St. G's in the C'ship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 15, 2012, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 14, 2012, 09:27:35 PM
Johnnies beat us in minor football tonight. They were the better team but not by much and we had enough chances to put them to the sword. Rus Fitzsimons gave us the benefit of a few decisions but should have put Kevin Kennedy off the Johnnies line for starting (and I mean starting) a row with a 16 year old. Idiot.

We had all the play in the 2nd half but couldn't get within 2 points. Johnnies goaled in the last minute to seal it. They deserved it though. We made too many silly errors which cost us good chances. Very young Rossa team v a Johnnies side who are nearly all full minor. Encouraging.

Sets up Sunday's game. I have tickets to Croke Park on Sunday and I don't know what to do.
I believe yous will give Johnnies a run for their money alright but I expect the game in croke to be a cracker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 15, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
Well in that case I would go to Croke and sky plus your game and watch it later. Just make sure no one texts you the results from casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 16, 2012, 10:41:46 AM
First game at Casement is 5pm. You would think with the interest in Tipp v KK they would put the Casement bill back by 30 mins. Choice is either miss end of Tipp v KK of start of Rossa v St Johns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2012, 11:02:18 PM
Kevin Brady has announced his retirement.

Great servant to Antrim. Always thought baker underused him.

St brigids drew with ahoghill this evening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 18, 2012, 01:33:19 PM
Agree whloeheartedly ITG re Kevin Brady. Should have got a lot more game time than he did - but it is a measure of the man that he put the teams interest before himself.

A class act in every way. Can rightly and deservedly be entered in the column of legends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on August 18, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
Cargin v Rasharkin tomorrow!!!
Any chance of an upset???? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: gaaman24 on August 18, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
Cargin v Rasharkin tomorrow!!!
Any chance of an upset???? ;)

Nope...

Fully agree bannside. Half forward we were crying out for last 2 years! Best of luck to him and hopefully he plays a few more years for money glass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 18, 2012, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: gaaman24 on August 18, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
Cargin v Rasharkin tomorrow!!!
Any chance of an upset???? ;)

Nope...

Fully agree bannside. Half forward we were crying out for last 2 years! Best of luck to him and hopefully he plays a few more years for money glass.

Would actually be our best ball winner in  FF win. Won load of ball v Tipp but couldnt get turned to shoot bar one point.

Great servant. His best move was his show ball to left and go right shuffle. Did it for years to beat a man.

Some service he gave us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on August 19, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 19, 2012, 12:01:01 PM
St Teresa's beaten by Sarsfields - bit of a shock.
Gort beaten by Aghagallon.
St Enda's hammered by Aldergrove.

Seems at intermediate and Division 2 level, everyone can beat everyone.

Would have to fancy Aldergrove now for the IFC. Watched them play once, wasn't entirely impressed by them but they work really hard for each other and play an effective, if very boring, system.  Anyone know anything about them?  Thought I saw your man with the baldy head from Cargin on their line.

Yeah, JC from Cargin manages them. He seems to be doing really well with them. Apparently (so I heard anyway) earlier in the year in the O'Cahan cup and Aldergrove player reacted badly to being subbed and he decked JC, I don't think the players been seen since.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2012, 05:40:06 PM
Any updates on the Old Firm game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 19, 2012, 09:23:35 PM
Yeah Johnnies win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 19, 2012, 09:29:31 PM
 St Galls 1-16 Creggan 1-8 FT

St Johns 0-12 Rossa 1-5 FT

St Galls now meet Cargin in semi; St Johns meet winners of St Brigids v Ahoghill replay.

Does anyone know when those games are likely to be played ?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on August 19, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
September 9th...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: jdyok on August 19, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
September 9th...

On All Ireland Hurling final day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Should be a decent game against Cargin (again) If it's up the country then Cargin could nick it. We always play at Casement which is slightly unfair I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on August 19, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
Think casement is the best venue, always get a gd crowd at those games. Both teams have a big following and a lot of neutrals like myself like to go. Don't think any other ground could hold that many people!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on August 19, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
got the date from admin on county website, it could mean 'weekend of' and the games could be scheduled for the Saturday evening...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 19, 2012, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: PeteG on August 19, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
Think casement is the best venue, always get a gd crowd at those games. Both teams have a big following and a lot of neutrals like myself like to go. Don't think any other ground could hold that many people!

Is this a serious post? Have you been to an Antrim championship game of late. Attendances are shocking.

A good venue up the country could hold such a game rightly. Casement really is St Galls home from home. Not an excuse as Cargin men will have played there alot too...but the crowd thing is not true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on August 19, 2012, 11:44:48 PM
Well I was at the games tonight and there is no way the crowd there would fit around any of the grounds up the country and that was even after half the st johns and Rossa fans left! Well least not if everyone wants a good view of the game!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 20, 2012, 12:02:08 AM
As Cargin are first team drawn they'd be crazy not to request the game is played in the SW!  Take any advantage going no matter how small.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2012, 12:10:32 AM
Galls in Casement is like Armagh in Clones a few years ago. The Milltown men know the price of the pint too well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 20, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
There will be plenty of room for spectators at a couple of SW grounds (Creggan and Ahoghill) easily with their embankments. Rasharkin hosted a few championship meetings between thiose two teams circa early 90`s with no bother at all. In the country Cargin are a lot harder to beat, and Casement definitely worth three or four points to St Galls.

If Cargin were drawn out first they would be mad not to make the Millfield men travel - and we would be looking at a fifty/fifty game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 20, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Cargin v St. Gall's - Sat 8th Sept 6:30pm @ Creggan

Most of the remaining Championship fixtures are now up on the website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 20, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 20, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Cargin v St. Gall's - Sat 8th Sept 6:30pm @ Creggan

Most of the remaining Championship fixtures are now up on the website.

That's the Milltown men fecked. Last time they went to Creggan, they could only rustle up 15 to travel, CJ played in goals and Milltown Row2 was an unused sub.

Makes it interesting, Gall's by 5.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2012, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 20, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 20, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Cargin v St. Gall's - Sat 8th Sept 6:30pm @ Creggan

Most of the remaining Championship fixtures are now up on the website.

That's the Milltown men fecked. Last time they went to Creggan, they could only rustle up 15 to travel, CJ played in goals and Milltown Row2 was an unused sub.

Makes it interesting, Gall's by 5.

We don't win too many times up the country against Cargin, Cargin beat us in a round robin type championship a few years ago and we hammered them in  the final at Casement. No back door system this year so I'd imagine the lads will be well focused on the draw.

We beat Cargin 5, 4 one year in Rasharkin in the county final. What a crap match, St Johns beat St Enda's in the minor final that year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 21, 2012, 11:06:30 AM
A wins a win and im sure cargin would be happy with a 5-4 win as would we. I expect this one to be very tight though. We are not at our best ta the minute and I believe Cargin are improving and with Mick Mc Cann part of Kevin Maddens Ulster Allstar picks they must fancy their chances. 1- 3 points either way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2012, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2012, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 20, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 20, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Cargin v St. Gall's - Sat 8th Sept 6:30pm @ Creggan

Most of the remaining Championship fixtures are now up on the website.

That's the Milltown men fecked. Last time they went to Creggan, they could only rustle up 15 to travel, CJ played in goals and Milltown Row2 was an unused sub.

Makes it interesting, Gall's by 5.

We don't win too many times up the country against Cargin, Cargin beat us in a round robin type championship a few years ago and we hammered them in  the final at Casement. No back door system this year so I'd imagine the lads will be well focused on the draw.

We beat Cargin 5, 4 one year in Rasharkin in the county final. What a crap match, St Johns beat St Enda's in the minor final that year
I was at that match in Rasharkin. Two hours of my life I'll never get back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
I'd say the same about the last two cargin st galls games I was at. Wouldn't go if you paid me after those.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 23, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
I'd say the same about the last two cargin st galls games I was at. Wouldn't go if you paid me after those.

Let down? Why
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2012, 09:53:49 PM
They've been no contest at all. Cargin are awful for dropping the head and dropping it early against you boys.

I guess I just went with high hopes of cargin putting it up to you boys and seeing a good tight game and never has happened. They have better players than that but never seems to happen for them.

It'll help them having it in the country but just have very disappointed with the last few.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 24, 2012, 07:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2012, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2012, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 20, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 20, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Cargin v St. Gall's - Sat 8th Sept 6:30pm @ Creggan

Most of the remaining Championship fixtures are now up on the website.

That's the Milltown men fecked. Last time they went to Creggan, they could only rustle up 15 to travel, CJ played in goals and Milltown Row2 was an unused sub.

Makes it interesting, Gall's by 5.

We don't win too many times up the country against Cargin, Cargin beat us in a round robin type championship a few years ago and we hammered them in  the final at Casement. No back door system this year so I'd imagine the lads will be well focused on the draw.

We beat Cargin 5, 4 one year in Rasharkin in the county final. What a crap match, St Johns beat St Enda's in the minor final that year
I was at that match in Rasharkin. Two hours of my life I'll never get back.

Remember that match well. Maybe if they had picked Rasharkin for the venue this time our brand of free flowing, swashbuckling , exciting football that everyone had been so lucky to see this year in Div 1 would have rubbed off on Cargin and Galls!!

Would love to see Cargin come of age and step up to the plate against St Galls but on their performance against us i cant see it happening. Lot of talk of how great mmcann has been but both cargin midfield were outplayed by paul doc in our game but we failed to cope with their half back line pushing up for the kick outs and gathering up all the dirty ball. Tmcann free kicking is superb but he will need to do alot more and carry more threat in open play. Full back line looked very vulnerable when ran. Lot of chat about Galls being an aging team etc but they have class and experience and i cant see anyone getting close.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2012, 01:49:16 PM
Paul Doc now in his prime and hopefully will re-commit to county cause next year. With Sean Mc Veigh hopefully around as well this will help beef us up in some vital areas.

Speaking of the county I cant believe that our management committee hasnt made their position clear re the senior management position. Baker has made it fairly clear that he wants a crack at the Derry job (and thats fair enough - its his own county). But surely he cant ride two horses at the one time.

He has done ok with us, but 09 is a while back now and he is still dining out on that. We beat Donegal that year. Would we have any chance of beating them today? Four years is a long time with any team, and many now feel it is time to freshen things up.

Anyone else on here got an opinion on this? There are plenty I could think of who I feel could take us on to another level, but theres so much apathy about that i think most people couldnt give a toss. Only in Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 25, 2012, 07:40:37 PM
Baker had his freshen up already with Paddy Mcn going and ga , pmcf, and Andy coming in. Can't c it has made a huge difference. Hadcu someone in mind Bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on August 25, 2012, 09:03:28 PM
Rasharkingael, from what i hav seen of ur senior team this year they tried to play a style of football that suited them but they didnt seem to have luck on ther side! Put up a fairly good show against Cargin last week. 8 pts instead of 19 pts which was the margin last year shows improvement! 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2012, 10:18:39 AM
I'd like to see a change bannside. I think baker has done well and has taken us up a notch with regard to belief etc. I think though that he is tactically a bit limited and we have become very predictable. (used to be terry o'neill back but now it's most of the forward line!).

I think if we got a better tactician in we could step it up a notch again as we do have some decent players these days. Not sure that exists within the county mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 10:47:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 26, 2012, 10:18:39 AM
I'd like to see a change bannside. I think baker has done well and has taken us up a notch with regard to belief etc. I think though that he is tactically a bit limited and we have become very predictable. (used to be terry o'neill back but now it's most of the forward line!).

I think if we got a better tactician in we could step it up a notch again as we do have some decent players these days. Not sure that exists within the county mind you.

Decent footballers, but they aren't playing for some reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2012, 10:53:54 AM
There are decent players playing too though but it would be good to get some boys back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
Think we all agree ITG that Baker has added something and in those four years there have been some high points alright. Putting it up to Kerry in Tullamore my personal highlight. But in between there have been many stinkers too.

My own opinion is maybe a bit biased as I had worked with a lot of the currect senior crop, as minors or U-21`s, and I believe that this group were always destined for better days than previous teams. Have they progressed enough. No they havent. There is still another level this group can go to, and they must get the right support and management to take them there.

Yes RG. There are half a dozen names I could think of - but the way our county is going about things they will be picked over. We shouldnt be playing second fiddle to anyone, and it gets me so winded up!

Its time for some leadership, because what we are now doing would not happen in any other county. Are we seriously going to wait and see if Baker gets the Derry job before we make any decisions on what we need. Incredible. Only in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 27, 2012, 09:22:43 AM
Agree Bannside. Antrim should not be in the situation of our current manager declaring his interest in another job but is prepared to stay with us if he doesn't get it! A bit more leadership from our County officials would help but then after the way the Jerry Wallace situation was handled we shouldnt be surprised.
We have some good players at the moment but consistency seems to be a problem and a lack of direction. All the strength and conditioning training in the world wont make up for poor decision making on the field and tactical naivety on the sideline.
On another note i would just like to thank Kevin Brady for the years of service he put in with Antrim. A great talent, not used enough by Baker, and a dedicated Saffron. He should have many years of club football left in him yet and Antrims loss will be Moneyglass gain as he will be able to concentrate  on them. Cheers Kevin for some great memories.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on August 27, 2012, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: gaaman24 on August 25, 2012, 09:03:28 PM
Rasharkingael, from what i hav seen of ur senior team this year they tried to play a style of football that suited them but they didnt seem to have luck on ther side! Put up a fairly good show against Cargin last week. 8 pts instead of 19 pts which was the margin last year shows improvement! 8)

Catch a grip!! Rasharkin were the worst team i have ever seen in Div 1 football and that is saying alot. Great big donkeys. Keep going that way and i hear div 3 calling!!lol
Hear you couldnt even field a team against the lambs yesterday, any truth in that Rg or you mate gman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on August 27, 2012, 01:36:52 PM
Jonnies vs Ahoghill. County final here we come!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 27, 2012, 02:09:42 PM
Baker is gone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
If thats true then fair play to him for a decent contribution over the course of four years. No one can fault his passion and ability to get a tean believing in themselves, and overall his tenure can be remembered with some satisfaction.

If Baker gets the Derry then job good luck to him - but now the search begins for Antrim to get the right management team in place that can deliver some more big days with the current crop of players.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 27, 2012, 03:03:48 PM
Cant think of any names that just leap out at me Bannside, who do you think would be up for the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 27, 2012, 03:27:53 PM
Joe McVeigh or Roy McLarnon for me. Joe especially has experience of making some good signings. Other than that, could always ask Lenny Harbinson if we are desperate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddymcg115 on August 27, 2012, 04:00:18 PM
Bannside - maybe you could take your words back about Liam Bradley riding two horses at the one time.
In any interview i seen he said he was meeting wth his backroom team and the county chairman and then was going to make a decision. Thats exactly what he did. Your assumptions of him using Antrim as something to fall back on if he didnt get the Derry job were very far of the mark
You'll maybe go for the job again yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2012, 04:28:49 PM
PMG - Of course he was trying to ride two horses. He had clearly and publicly got his hat in both rings at the same time. This is not anything anti Baker. He did a decent job in Antrim and will be well thought of. Maybe another year might have taken the gloss off that.

I never said that he should go. I made it clear that if he came straight out and made a public declaration that he thought he could take make further progress with Antrim and had the hunger for it - then I would have no problem with that. He is a good man around a team and will do well with whatever team he gets next.

No, I`m not interested in the job this time round. Happy enough to keep developing our future players in the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 27, 2012, 04:35:23 PM
Gutted Baker has gone. Will be near impossible to replace. Loved his passion, belief and how he didnt pander to so called star players who tried to take the piss. Noone was undroppable. Perfect as for years Antrim had been held to ransom by moaning players who were accomodated wrongly in the hope they'd do it on a big day.

Hope the new manager doesnt take us backwards. Hard act to follow

He may not have won tropheys but he us 2 promotions, some great championship wins and days and most importantly he gave us respect which is something we did not have for many years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2012, 06:30:15 PM
It's sad to see Baker go alright as he has done a lot of good for antrim football but as per my previous comments I'd be hopeful we get someone with more positive football who can bring us on a bit and get us going at teams a bit more.

Competing with Kerry, an ulster final and galway wins were big highlights. Division 2 a massive step forward for antrim football too. Definitely has to be commended for this.

I felt that he only ever had a plan A though. I'd like to see us with someone who has a plan B and C. I think there are players there to have us competing at a better level than we are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on August 27, 2012, 06:44:36 PM
We need to be really ambitious with our next appointment and go after some of the best young talents in management at the minute. I think we should go for Tony McEntee, Tohill or Aidan O'Rourke.
Tony McEntee has the Cross job atm obviously and would be difficult to get, but at the same time he has stated he wants intercounty experience before taking the Armagh job and has proven himself as a fantastic manager by taking what many considered a transitional Cross team to back to back All Irelands.
Tohill did a brilliant job with the International Rules team second time round and received rave reviews for the professionalism he brought to the set up. I'm sure has the knowledge, leadership and charisma to bring us on.
O'Rourke has been involved in numerous inter county set ups and seems to really rate Antrim players (has said he can't believe Antrim don't do better considering the talent we had at university level a few years ago).
Any one of those three would be a really exciting move and all of them would be capable of taking us to the next level I feel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 27, 2012, 09:23:27 PM
I was in Crocker on Sunday for the semi final. When I watched Donegal demolish cork I remembered just afew seasons ago Antrim beating them in ballybofey. Look at the progress they have made in that time. With the right leadership I think Antrim could make big progress too but I'm struggling to think of someone within our county who could achieve this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 27, 2012, 09:40:33 PM
I'm not gutted, far from it.  Antrim have to go for an ulster title - that's the BIG breakthrough that would kick this county onwards.  There's enough players in the county to seriously try and achieve this.  While Baker did a good job, I really don't think he could have got us over the line so with all due respect, I'm happy to see the opportunity for a change.  The players will probably enjoy a new voice and ideas as well - but it will need an inspired choice to get the right manager to bring us to the next level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 27, 2012, 09:57:33 PM
What do we need? A young modern thinking manager in the McGuinness mould who knows the modern game,would have respect of the players,yet strong enough to instill discipline,work ethic,and pride in their County. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on August 27, 2012, 10:45:12 PM
To be honest I had heard a while back that the county board were seeking nominations so this isn't much of a surprise. I honestly think Baker has been underrated by many and that this will do some serious damage to us. I can't really see where the talent is coming on a managerial or playing level - the only way Antrim are going to be able to beat teams with the personnel is to play a negative system a lá that implemented against Galway. Ward's contract is for a few years like Mike McGurns, isn't it? If so, would suggest favour for braun over creative guile, and thus, a negative defensive approach.

The names of managers listed above are interesting but I can't see O'Rourke, Tohill or McEntee going for us at the minute. Will there be a headhunt like last time, with some hurling club stumping up a last minute nomination for an outside decent Ulster Club manager? In saying that, I have a feeling that if Lenny Harbinson comes in as manager or selector we may see a few new and old faces through the door. Wouldn't mind seeing Karl Stewart amongst others back in Saffron. Let's just hope Jerry Wallace doesn't throw his hat in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
Great result for ahoghill against st brigids. Only realised the replay had taken place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on August 27, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
Great result for ahoghill against st brigids. Only realised the replay had taken place.

Unfortunately, so did some of us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 27, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
Quote from: stibhan on August 27, 2012, 10:45:12 PM
To be honest I had heard a while back that the county board were seeking nominations so this isn't much of a surprise. I honestly think Baker has been underrated by many and that this will do some serious damage to us. I can't really see where the talent is coming on a managerial or playing level - the only way Antrim are going to be able to beat teams with the personnel is to play a negative system a lá that implemented against Galway. Ward's contract is for a few years like Mike McGurns, isn't it? If so, would suggest favour for braun over creative guile, and thus, a negative defensive approach.

The names of managers listed above are interesting but I can't see O'Rourke, Tohill or McEntee going for us at the minute. Will there be a headhunt like last time, with some hurling club stumping up a last minute nomination for an outside decent Ulster Club manager? In saying that, I have a feeling that if Lenny Harbinson comes in as manager or selector we may see a few new and old faces through the door. Wouldn't mind seeing Karl Stewart amongst others back in Saffron. Let's just hope Jerry Wallace doesn't throw his hat in.

Think an outside manager is the way to go again. Wouldnt fancy Lenny, the pandering would only start again, piss off many on the panel and undo the awesome and i agree, under-rated, work done by the Baker.

Agree re Karl Stewart though. Wasted, natural scoring talent who has given his best years to the hurlers. Would like to see him give football a year

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
Has to be an outsider.

I wouldn't agree we need to play negative. We have half decent forwards there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 28, 2012, 08:07:33 AM
Don't much care for rumours but there is one doing the rounds that Baker and Paul McFlynn have been offered the Derry job over the weekend and that's why he stood down on Monday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 28, 2012, 08:33:39 AM
Four names mentioned in todays IN expected to be nominated,Lenny Harbinson,Gearoid Adams,Kevin Madden and Brian White.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on August 28, 2012, 09:33:13 AM
Think lenny would do a good job along with madden as trainer.

i agree that the baker did bring antrim forward, but as bannside says he had a good crop of players coming through to work with. we need to take next step now. baker fell out with alot of players mainly st galls, which stems from an ulster club match few years back, he also dropped cunningham who was his capt for few years, shows his ego goes before the team.

bannside have u taken up another role now, with a weekly column?

heard at weekend sean mcveigh has a heart complaint, not sure how serious, i was told he cant play at min & didnt feature in their league game. hope he is ok & back playing again soon.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2012, 10:40:30 AM
To be fair to baker I think Cunningham should have been dropped as he just wasn't adding enough.

People assume he fell out with all these galls boys but did he really? A saint would have issues with mcgourtys. The only one I can think of was McLean that should have been there the obvious aside.

He played o'neill for years so hardly fell out with him over an ulster club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 28, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Heard the news too about Sean Mc Veigh. If what I hear is true thats a terrible blow for him. Great guy too.

Culchie, you must be talking about a certain Bannsider" column in the Antrim Post!!! Turning into a great wee paper (isnt it?)


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on August 28, 2012, 09:47:54 PM
Yip, county Antrim post is a great wee paper, not before time too! Some open & honest columns in it well worth the read. Great for match reports also all grades and codes, brilliant championship supplement also! Raises the profile of Antrim gaa no end!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 29, 2012, 12:17:31 AM
Are you 2 on commission?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 29, 2012, 12:54:11 AM
county antrim post
not dying about it to be honest, very light
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2012, 08:46:35 AM
As far as I know they are carrying full match reports for over 20 matches this weekend. Thats a big committment to Antrim GAA and we should be encouraged. Some great columnists too!

What was that about commission RG!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on August 29, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2012, 08:46:35 AM
As far as I know they are carrying full match reports for over 20 matches this weekend. Thats a big committment to Antrim GAA and we should be encouraged. Some great columnists too!

What was that about commission RG!!!

Just looked a bit closer at its contributors this morning, i now understand Bannside!!lol Terence photocopies of the manual  was a bit laborious , i thought with his experience he would have come up something a bit more cutting edge.
Good enough paper and great to see all the local match reports and a boost for Gaa.

Anybody any revelations about how Cargin /Galls will go? Great result for Ahoghill against Brids but according to my stalker ( viva TMC) St johns are going to walk it, dont think so, although venue could have a big meaning in that game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2012, 09:13:45 AM
Cargin should go mighty close at a SW venue. Wouldnt like to be betting on it!

Ahoghill will be underdogs, but wont lie down. They are some club. For such a small club they deserve a lot of credit. Most of them dual players too. Represent all that is good about the GAA in small rural areas.

A lot of them were at our festival marquee at the weekend after their win against St Brigids. Great drinkers too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on August 29, 2012, 01:23:52 PM
All you journos bannside & RG, must get your info & ideas from websites like these lol

I honestly dont think the venue will make that big a difference, galls will grind out the result & pull away in the last 10-15mins to win by 5 or 6. cargin indiscipline will again see to that. although i hope it to be closer, as it has the makings of a great game. think ciaran close is cargins main man & if he is on song they could just pip it, but have my doubts.

your 100% right bannside regarding ahoghill, great club & facilities to match it!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 29, 2012, 06:15:02 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on August 29, 2012, 01:23:52 PM
All you journos bannside & RG, must get your info & ideas from websites like these lol

I honestly dont think the venue will make that big a difference, galls will grind out the result & pull away in the last 10-15mins to win by 5 or 6. cargin indiscipline will again see to that. although i hope it to be closer, as it has the makings of a great game. think ciaran close is cargins main man & if he is on song they could just pip it, but have my doubts.

your 100% right bannside regarding ahoghill, great club & facilities to match it!

Ahoghill are indeed a great club. Some set up now and have came on leaps and bounds in both codes. PAddy Logan may regret his decision now (although to be fair i know nothin about it).

Ahoghill deserved to beat Brigids. Brigids were better when playing their game and were 6 up with 15mins to go but shit the togs and somehow let Ahoghill back to draw. Brigids were busted and there was only gonna be one winner in extra time. Ahoghill wanted it more and seemed to have more natural forwards whilst Brigids were reliant on Loughrey, who at wing back nearly still won the game on his own.

Fancy Ahoghill to maybe stay up now at expense of Brigid or Rossa.

Feel Brigids would have beaten Johns but think Johns will beat Ahoghill in semi final.

Doesnt matter though as Galls should walk it. Galls could beat Cargin by as many as they want i think. SW venue wont matter. Galls havent been beat in a meaningful match there since Moneyglass in 2000

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 29, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Ahjoghill have some set up alright - credit to them. Have had a lot of  shit from "the other side" to put up with too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 29, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2012, 09:06:16 PM
Did they feckin win tonight, more to the point??

draw

0-16 - 2-10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 29, 2012, 09:11:32 PM
antrim.gaa.ie

- can you not get it there !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on August 29, 2012, 10:42:01 PM
Third is St John's. Haven't played them yet this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Interesting battle at the bottom.

Rossa have 1 to play (St. Pauls)
Fair chance of getting something here.

Ahoghill have 3 to play (Creggan, Lamh Dhearg, Cargin)
Very tough.

St. Brigids have 3 to play (St. Johns, St. Galls, ?)
Two very tough games. Who is the 3rd?


Predictions??

From Hoof Hearted's favourite website it looks like Brigids play St Johns twice.

Hopefully end of season issues/not fielding etc play no issue in what will unfold.


Ps I echo the comments re Ahoghill...fair play to them. There is such crossover between their teams it is very impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2012, 10:50:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Interesting battle at the bottom.

Rossa have 1 to play (St. Pauls)
Fair chance of getting something here.

Ahoghill have 3 to play (Creggan, Lamh Dhearg, Cargin)
Very tough.

St. Brigids have 3 to play (St. Johns, St. Galls, ?)
Two very tough games. Who is the 3rd?


Predictions??

From Hoof Hearted's favourite website it looks like Brigids play St Johns twice.

Hopefully end of season issues/not fielding etc play no issue in what will unfold.


Ps I echo the comments re Ahoghill...fair play to them. There is such crossover between their teams it is very impressive.

St Johns, Rossa and ourselves have been dual clubs for years!!!! Ahoghill is a fairly big parish is it not?

But yes, few years ago they played us in County final and always had great juvenile teams, albeit under a different banner :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 29, 2012, 11:01:19 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Interesting battle at the bottom.

Rossa have 1 to play (St. Pauls)
Fair chance of getting something here.

Ahoghill have 3 to play (Creggan, Lamh Dhearg, Cargin)
Very tough.

St. Brigids have 3 to play (St. Johns, St. Galls, ?)
Two very tough games. Who is the 3rd?


Predictions??

From Hoof Hearted's favourite website it looks like Brigids play St Johns twice.

Hopefully end of season issues/not fielding etc play no issue in what will unfold.


Ps I echo the comments re Ahoghill...fair play to them. There is such crossover between their teams it is very impressive.

my home website now since i emmigrated !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2012, 11:36:27 PM
Aldergrove promoted to division 1. Fair play to them. I can't ever recall Aldergrove in division 1. In fact until the last few years I can't recall them division 2. Must be some good work going on there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 30, 2012, 09:01:48 AM
Was at their match last night - they beat Portglenone handy enough.

JC has them going well. A top man around any team. Good football and plenty of discipline too - fit and hungry too all over the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2012, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 30, 2012, 09:01:48 AM
Was at their match last night - they beat Portglenone handy enough.

JC has them going well. A top man around any team. Good football and plenty of discipline too - fit and hungry too all over the pitch.

A proven manager also, has won the county title as a manager from us. Otherwise we'd be going for some serious record FFS

County manager material??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 30, 2012, 02:21:59 PM
Was he not highly involved at County level before MR2 as Brian Whites righthand man. Hasn`t stopped since then, managing someone or other every year since. Had Cargin playing their best football ever during his successful time there as manager. Now in with a chance of doing the double at Aldergrove - a big achievement if he pulls that off.

If we are staying in the county he definitely has to be on the list of serious contenders.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2012, 02:42:41 PM
Aye comes across likeable enough for a Cargin man :o

That year against us was the first round after the All final defeat, and they didn't put any effort into the league that year at all and concentrated on that night at Casement, paid off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 30, 2012, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2012, 10:50:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Interesting battle at the bottom.

Rossa have 1 to play (St. Pauls)
Fair chance of getting something here.

Ahoghill have 3 to play (Creggan, Lamh Dhearg, Cargin)
Very tough.

St. Brigids have 3 to play (St. Johns, St. Galls, ?)
Two very tough games. Who is the 3rd?


Predictions??

From Hoof Hearted's favourite website it looks like Brigids play St Johns twice.

Hopefully end of season issues/not fielding etc play no issue in what will unfold.


Ps I echo the comments re Ahoghill...fair play to them. There is such crossover between their teams it is very impressive.

St Johns, Rossa and ourselves have been dual clubs for years!!!! Ahoghill is a fairly big parish is it not?

But yes, few years ago they played us in County final and always had great juvenile teams, albeit under a different banner :o

Exactly - I assume the different banner was due to lack of numbers.

Can't imagine its that big a parish to be honest.

Its all me, me, me with you MR2......LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2012, 03:56:21 PM
In terms of gaa playing population ahoghill is very very small. It's teams usually come from small numbers of families.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 30, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
Who would have the smallest parish or numbers to choose from in antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 30, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
Who would have the smallest parish or numbers to choose from in antrim?

Larne or Carrickfergus - for numbers anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on August 31, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
And so it begins - Irish news is at their lark!

Who will be next county manager?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on August 31, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
I believe as I have previously said Lenny be good man for the job with madden or even jc as right hand man.

Does anyone know how ai tickets are divide up in county?

Some clubs get 4-6 tickets between them yet any member of county management comm get 4 apiece!

Grassroots at its very best there eh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 31, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on August 31, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
And so it begins - Irish news is at their lark!

Who will be next county manager?

At their lark ? How so ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Ah, poor Harbinson  :'(, no one from his own club has nominated him for the county manager position.  He is making his last minute plea via the IN for someone to nominate him. The fact that his own club has not nominated him, does that tell us all something, hhhmmm! Interesting or what?

He'd probably be too expensive for Antrim anyway?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 31, 2012, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Ah, poor Harbinson  :'(, no one from his own club has nominated him for the county manager position.  He is making his last minute plea via the IN for someone to nominate him. The fact that his own club has not nominated him, does that tell us all something, hhhmmm! Interesting or what?

He'd probably be too expensive for Antrim anyway?  ::)

You should throw your hat in the ring Winker. You seem to know a fair bit about it...and everything.


Is the nomination thing not a bit archaic? Could interested individuals not just apply?

Is it actually the case that clubs put names forward for people they haven't even consulted?? If so that is a farce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 31, 2012, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 31, 2012, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Ah, poor Harbinson  :'(, no one from his own club has nominated him for the county manager position.  He is making his last minute plea via the IN for someone to nominate him. The fact that his own club has not nominated him, does that tell us all something, hhhmmm! Interesting or what?

He'd probably be too expensive for Antrim anyway?  ::)

You should throw your hat in the ring Winker. You seem to know a fair bit about it...and everything.


Is the nomination thing not a bit archaic? Could interested individuals not just apply?

Is it actually the case that clubs put names forward for people they haven't even consulted?? If so that is a farce.

Yeah I agree,also think the CB should be approaching anyone who they would want for the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2012, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 30, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
Who would have the smallest parish or numbers to choose from in antrim?

Larne or Carrickfergus - for numbers anyway

Not too much gaa in carrickfergus. Larne have a hurling team though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 31, 2012, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Ah, poor Harbinson  :'(, no one from his own club has nominated him for the county manager position.  He is making his last minute plea via the IN for someone to nominate him. The fact that his own club has not nominated him, does that tell us all something, hhhmmm! Interesting or what?

He'd probably be too expensive for Antrim anyway?  ::)

You should throw your hat in the ring Winker. You seem to know a fair bit about it...and everything.


Is the nomination thing not a bit archaic? Could interested individuals not just apply?

Is it actually the case that clubs put names forward for people they haven't even consulted?? If so that is a farce.
Nah, more interested in the wee ball managers job, but I would be too radical and would select me own support/backroom team.  I would make a few enemies along the way also as I would tend to be very innovative and ruthless and not care who's toes I would step on!

I think that is what it is going to take however.  I ask myself the question though, is Antrim ready for me yet???????  Are they deserving of my professional qualities??????  Are they prepared to endure and foster my innovative thinking and processes????  Is the county really worthy of the time and input I would adopt?????  Is Quinn and his cohorts at Casement prepared to take it in the neck and capitulate????? Then maybe, just maybe!  ;)   Has the county got the Passion, Drive, Commitment, Moral Courage, Conviction and resources to consider me?????  Lets wait and see  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 31, 2012, 02:34:49 PM
Oh dear god.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 31, 2012, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 31, 2012, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Ah, poor Harbinson  :'(, no one from his own club has nominated him for the county manager position.  He is making his last minute plea via the IN for someone to nominate him. The fact that his own club has not nominated him, does that tell us all something, hhhmmm! Interesting or what?

He'd probably be too expensive for Antrim anyway?  ::)

You should throw your hat in the ring Winker. You seem to know a fair bit about it...and everything.


Is the nomination thing not a bit archaic? Could interested individuals not just apply?

Is it actually the case that clubs put names forward for people they haven't even consulted?? If so that is a farce.
Nah, more interested in the wee ball managers job, but I would be too radical and would select me own support/backroom team.  I would make a few enemies along the way also as I would tend to be very innovative and ruthless and not care who's toes I would step on!

I think that is what it is going to take however.  I ask myself the question though, is Antrim ready for me yet???????  Are they deserving of my professional qualities??????  Are they prepared to endure and foster my innovative thinking and processes????  Is the county really worthy of the time and input I would adopt?????  Is Quinn and his cohorts at Casement prepared to take it in the neck and capitulate????? Then maybe, just maybe!  ;)   Has the county got the Passion, Drive, Commitment, Moral Courage, Conviction and resources to consider me?????  Lets wait and see  :-X

T ::) ::)L
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Move er on on September 01, 2012, 12:18:52 AM
08457 909090
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2012, 02:42:41 PM
Aye comes across likeable enough for a Cargin man :o

That year against us was the first round after the All final defeat, and they didn't put any effort into the league that year at all and concentrated on that night at Casement, paid off
I know for a fact that JC had the  Aldergrove players watch the Loughgiel dvd of the all Ireland win before playing Portglenone in the championship. Must have inspired them.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 04, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
Brutal, what i'm hearing!

Baker resigned because his wages were gettin cut?

I would give someones asst a shout at it.  Rory Gallagher (who will now be too expensive), Aidan O Rourke, John Rafferty, would they even look at it?  Unfortunately the money would need to be right.  What have we done with the GAA - its scalping us on the arse!
Without the money ye wont attract the personel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 04, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
Brutal, what i'm hearing!

Baker resigned because his wages were gettin cut?

I would give someones asst a shout at it.  Rory Gallagher (who will now be too expensive), Aidan O Rourke, John Rafferty, would they even look at it?  Unfortunately the money would need to be right.  What have we done with the GAA - its scalping us on the arse!
Without the money ye wont attract the personel!
Do your club pay any managers Deary Me ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 04, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
God no ballman, we wouldnt have a penny.

But seems that Baker values his credentials more than the county board.  Although fair play to them for standing their ground in such difficult financial circumstances.  Although all these plans for redevelopment look grand. Alot of money involved there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 04, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
Championship semis this weekend - any predictions?

You would think St galls & st johns be the favs in senior, with aldergrove going for the double at intermediate level for league & championship.

think ahoghill could give st johns a scare, but johnnies should be too strong.
heard ahoghill players were dropped for hurling champ for going on drinking binge the week before.
fair play to their manager, took balls to do that, no doubt as they lost the manager gets the blame but in my opinion the ones who went drinking let whole team down.
wonder will it make any difference to football panel, make them think what they could achieve if they wanted to show bit of committment?!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2012, 02:56:31 PM
St galls by 5 points in their game. They should have too much fire power for cargin.

The other one, st johns by 8. Gona head up to this one on fri night so hopefully it's a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
Anyone know what the craic is between Club Aontroma and the Irish News? Really random notice in the paper today beside the Antrim article, seemed to hint at a dispute?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 04, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
Anyone know what the craic is between Club Aontroma and the Irish News? Really random notice in the paper today beside the Antrim article, seemed to hint at a dispute?

Just read that and it is strange,know club Aontroma PRO wrote for IN in their business section so maybe some sort of fall out there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Quote from: glens abu on September 04, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
Anyone know what the craic is between Club Aontroma and the Irish News? Really random notice in the paper today beside the Antrim article, seemed to hint at a dispute?

Just read that and it is strange,know club Aontroma PRO wrote for IN in their business section so maybe some sort of fall out there

I would imagine it was the spat Kenny Archer had with Brendan Mulgrew a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 04, 2012, 10:39:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Quote from: glens abu on September 04, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
Anyone know what the craic is between Club Aontroma and the Irish News? Really random notice in the paper today beside the Antrim article, seemed to hint at a dispute?

Just read that and it is strange,know club Aontroma PRO wrote for IN in their business section so maybe some sort of fall out there

I would imagine it was the spat Kenny Archer had with Brendan Mulgrew a few weeks ago.


What was that over?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on September 05, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
Quote from: glens abu on September 04, 2012, 10:39:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Quote from: glens abu on September 04, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 09:56:01 PM
Anyone know what the craic is between Club Aontroma and the Irish News? Really random notice in the paper today beside the Antrim article, seemed to hint at a dispute?

Just read that and it is strange,know club Aontroma PRO wrote for IN in their business section so maybe some sort of fall out there

I would imagine it was the spat Kenny Archer had with Brendan Mulgrew a few weeks ago.


What was that over?

Irish news ulster all star selections
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 05, 2012, 11:06:48 PM
The 'spat' was merely Kenny losing the head because I suggested, via the Antrim twitter feed (@clubaontroma) that he may not have seen too many matches as he only selected his version of the All Stars from 3 out of 9 counties. He didn't take kindly to that and wrote an outrageous piece in the paper calling me a 'clown' a 'troll' and a 'carper'. It was an overreaction by any standards, in my view anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2012, 07:57:20 AM
Thanks for the update Brendan. Fair play for sticking up for/promoting our own lads.

See Brian Mc Ivor got the Derry job. No surprises there. Hell of a strong backroom team too, all as much experience as you need around clubs and county teams. Give them space and watch the improvement.

Mc Ivor = won all ireland club with Ballinderry. Numerous schools titles with St Pius. Managed Donegal. Assistant manager in Down, and my info was he was the main man the players looked up to. Got them from nowhere to an All Ireland final that they kicked themselves out of. Top Man.

Tally = coached the above mentioned Down team to All-Ireland final. Coached Tyrone to win all ireland on 2005 under Mickey Harte. Coaches manages St Marys training college in Sigerson cup. Top rated.

Crozier = Won National League with Derry in 2008. Managed numerous top clubs in both Derry and Tyrone.

Bernie Henry = involved as coach with the successful Derry all ireland minor winning team of 2003. Managed Cargin, and many other top club jobs.

Anton Moran = top rated young coach, county senior panellist but badly injured. Son of Mickey (will have recieved the best schooling and around county teams with his Dad all his life)

Now thats what I call a management team. Amongst them All Irelands senior and minor, All Ireland club winners, NFL winners, College winners, Vocational schools winners. Probably 100 collective years around top football teams between them.

THEY HAVE SET US A HIGH STANDARD TO FOLLOW LADS!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 07, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on September 05, 2012, 11:06:48 PM
The 'spat' was merely Kenny losing the head because I suggested, via the Antrim twitter feed (@clubaontroma) that he may not have seen too many matches as he only selected his version of the All Stars from 3 out of 9 counties. He didn't take kindly to that and wrote an outrageous piece in the paper calling me a 'clown' a 'troll' and a 'carper'. It was an overreaction by any standards, in my view anyway.

Kenny made an awful clown of himself in that article. Haven't got a copy, but IIRC he stated that he had been to 7 of the 8 Ulster championship matches, two qualifiers and none of the quarterfinals (because he was on holidays that weekend - would a serious journalist book holidays for the biggest weekend of the championship?). He claimed he preferred to pick players from matches he saw. So he saw neither of the Derry games, 33% of Cavan games and 25% of Antrim matches. Yet, he claims a couple of Antrim players came close to selection. He had problems about the anonymity of the tweet, but it was clear that he already knew the identity of the tweeter as did many, many others; any who didn't certainly do now. He also made it clear that he didn't have a Twitter account, yet is getting exorcised by something posted on Twitter. But the worst part was the veiled threat at the end.

No-one I know has even attempted to argue that Archer's column had any journalist integrity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2012, 09:40:24 AM
Massive match this weekend, really looking forward to this one. Cargin won't get a better chance this year (or any) to dump us on our arses. Semi final and up the country, we don't lose too many Antrim finals but have been edgey enough leading up to finals in the past. Will be some crowd down I'd imagine on Sat night. Could be a draw but I think all games go to extra time unless it's a final. Not sure on that one.

Naomh Gall to win in extra time. One of the McGourty's to get two yellows and Cargin man to get straight red (for sure)

Cargin carrying any injuries into this game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 07, 2012, 12:37:10 PM
I concur with outcome but not that venue will make that big a difference, mr2 as i have previously posted:

"I honestly dont think the venue will make that big a difference, galls will grind out the result & pull away in the last 10-15mins to win by 5 or 6. cargin indiscipline will again see to that. although i hope it to be closer, as it has the makings of a great game. think ciaran close is cargins main man & if he is on song they could just pip it, but have my doubts."


cargin will be missing paul mccann for his sending off in qtr final, apart from that havent heard.

be some crowd alrite, £8 is a bit steep but hopefully we get our monies worth!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 07, 2012, 02:43:35 PM
Gonna stick my neck out! Galls by at least 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And turmoil in the Cargins ranks as a result!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on September 07, 2012, 10:27:55 PM
Have to agree HS, was never a contest and 17 points was about right.
Why was PJ O'Connell not about tonight? Found that strange for Ahoghill but wouldn't have made any difference.
Tomorrow night may not be that clear cut, wouldn't be the shock of the century should Cargin win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 07, 2012, 10:34:32 PM
Disappointing showing from ahoghill, though they would have put up a fight at least.

Pj was away on holidays apparently!

Hopefully better game tomorrow in Creggan, can't be as one-sided as tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on September 07, 2012, 10:27:55 PM
Have to agree HS, was never a contest and 17 points was about right.
Why was PJ O'Connell not about tonight? Found that strange for Ahoghill but wouldn't have made any difference.
Tomorrow night may not be that clear cut, wouldn't be the shock of the century should Cargin win

i have not seen one ball kicked in Div 1 of antrim this year, but i would be extremely surprised if Galls dont win tomorrow night (MR2 can give his Sir alex mind games all he likes )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2012, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on September 07, 2012, 10:27:55 PM
Have to agree HS, was never a contest and 17 points was about right.
Why was PJ O'Connell not about tonight? Found that strange for Ahoghill but wouldn't have made any difference.
Tomorrow night may not be that clear cut, wouldn't be the shock of the century should Cargin win

i have not seen one ball kicked in Div 1 of antrim this year, but i would be extremely surprised if Galls dont win tomorrow night (MR2 can give his Sir alex mind games all he likes )

We have aged like Cargin in fairness, both teams of a similar age and have had a fair battle over the years, I'm glad that we have won the majority of them but most (well on here) would like to see a change in the winners.

Tomorrow will be tight again, I just think we have enough forwards to score and in Niblock, a player who can make things happen. Should be a cracker. I hope all the players are fit and arrive withh the right attitude. Which I have no doubt the manager will have that installed in them. He's done a great job so far and would be great for him and the effort he's put in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 02:26:07 AM
I wouldn't necessarily agree that st galls have better footballers. I actually think cargin's best footballers are better.

However st galls 15 on 15 are probably better and they have a , much, better system. That and they're disciplined.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 02:26:07 AM
I wouldn't necessarily agree that st galls have better footballers. I actually think cargin's best footballers are better.

However st galls 15 on 15 are probably better and they have a , much, better system. That and they're disciplined.

That's a very bold statement tommy, do you think our success is down to better discipline? I'd say Mick McCann would be one of the best footballers around no doubt, but the rest would be even enough with our lads. I'd like to see your comparisons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 08, 2012, 12:09:07 PM
Ah now ITG dont lose the run of yourself now!

12-13 of st galls starting 15 have all played county football at some stage, whereas cargin maybe have 8 at most!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 12:24:11 PM
Crozier, 2 McCann's and Scullion have for years been our best performers at county level for a few years in my view. Gallagher probably the best of St Galls followed by Niblock.

I have come away from county games and wondered on a few occasions how Cargin aren't doing better against St Galls.

Don't get me wrong I fully understand that as 15 St Galls have better players but in my view the key players are no better. St Galls basically play "modern" football. They play a system and everyone has a place and role in their team which they know. Collectively they can swamp defense and they have guys who can score. Discipline is a big factor too MR. If St Galls lost a star player a new guy could come in and know what he was to do whereas if Cargin did they'd be in big trouble.

They have a better team ethos, have better discipline and have more belief in themselves in my view and that for me is why they're better and not individual ability.

(That's not to question individual ability but Cargin have Michael McCann, Tomas McCann, Tony Scullion, Kieran Close and Justin Crozier who are all excellent footballers and based on that I don't think it's purely football ability it's lost on)

St Galls to win by a few after all that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 12:44:31 PM
Sean Kelly, McGourty's, Niblock, Brady, McLean, Gallagher, Burkey, and Healy to name but a few are serious footballers

Crozier, McCann I'll give you that, Scullion is a fit donkey and really offers nothing but running into blind alleys and kicking the ball oh and smacking people, Close can score but not as much as he used to.

Everyone works for the team at the the club, my only annoyance with the team is that we don't push on when on top, we could easy muster 17 points a game plus what every goals come along
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
They are excellent no doubt but in my view individually no better than cargin's and in fact not as good. Scullion better than you give him credit for I think but easily riled in club games.

St galls revert to more 7s style possession football when on top. It's grand in Antrim but leaves them susceptible to being caught in ulster.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on September 08, 2012, 08:58:10 PM
I'm sorry, but the theorem that Saint Gall's are somehow just better managed than everyone else has just again been proven wrong. They are heads, shoulders, talent, mentality and tactics above everyone else in every sense of the words and should be the backbone of our county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
Came back from the game with a sense of disappointment that it never lived up to its billing. Can`t fault St Galls for that though. They are a complete TEAM and their communication, support play and general unselfishness and committment to the team ethos was outstanding.

They will win Antrim at a canter and should have a good rattle at Ulster too. Look fitter and hungrier than in recent years, and no matter how envious everyone else is of their superiority, it has to be said they are a serious football outfit.

I thought the venue may make a difference, but hands up, I was wrong about that. Cargin had two or three players that can hold their heads up tonight, but most will want to pretend tonight didnt happen. Six in a row looks inevitable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 08, 2012, 11:03:36 PM
Agree ban side disappointed with Cargins effort, not with st galls who looked immense at times!

Too many for Cargin didn't perform.

Mickey pollock was v good I thought, Cargin couldn't cope with galls penetrating runs and support play.

Thought ref had a good game, he let a few tackles go early doors, he could also have sent tony scullion off for 2nd yellow for a high tackle on Kevin mcgourty near end. Hardly a bad tackle all game though.

St galls are a serious outfit hope they go on and give ulster a good rattle, no disrespect to the johnnies.

Aghagallon caused an upset making the final against sarsfields.

Glenravel should edge aerodyne in junior also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 08, 2012, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2012, 09:23:24 PM
Can't agree with you, ITG. St. Galls have better backs than Justin Crozier and Tony Scullion. In fact, Crozier has gone backwards IMO. Sean Kelly, Brady, Anto Healy and Andy are all as good. There isn't a great deal between Mick McCann and Aidso Gallagher. Conor, Kevin and Kieran McGourty, Niblock and Pollock are all as good if not better than Tomas, on their day.

St. Galls have by far the better footballers.

Tomas McCann is a proven inter county player, Kieran and Kevin McGourty are not, nor is Pollock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 11:45:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 08, 2012, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2012, 09:23:24 PM
Can't agree with you, ITG. St. Galls have better backs than Justin Crozier and Tony Scullion. In fact, Crozier has gone backwards IMO. Sean Kelly, Brady, Anto Healy and Andy are all as good. There isn't a great deal between Mick McCann and Aidso Gallagher. Conor, Kevin and Kieran McGourty, Niblock and Pollock are all as good if not better than Tomas, on their day.

St. Galls have by far the better footballers.

Tomas McCann is a proven inter county player, Kieran and Kevin McGourty are not, nor is Pollock.

Were you at the game tonight?


Anyway's, how crap are Cargin? That was woeful tonight. I think Cargin have went backwards which is a real shame, I really did (for some strange reason) think they would have been better, and in truth they had a lot of ball in the first half but missed a hatfull of chances, too many wides and players running down blind alleys (Scullion) Best Cargin play on show was young Boyle. Never give up and a decent footballer. The Cargin sub, cant mind his name played up front was lively and created chances but our defence was immense.

So Johnnies in the final and if there is one thing about the Johnnies is they love playing finals in Casement and will love to be playing us, that's for sure. Should be a ding dong affair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on September 09, 2012, 12:18:35 AM
As a neutral at this evenings game I expected much more of a Cargin side with 5 county men and 2 or 3 former county men. In saying that St Galls where outstanding at times and their ability to play as a team and support each other was immence.
The Galls defence was superb, every player tight as can be and the pressure put on cargin frustrated them big time as their shooting was woeful, oboyle having the proverbial stinker.
Gallagher and Burke won the midfield exchanges wiile Pollock and the brilliant Niblock where best in attack.
I thought scullion and Kevin oboyle tried hard for cargin but I was very disappointed in the mccanns and crozier, who I agree has went backwards.
St Galls will give ulster a good rattle, Kevin Mcgourty will be back to full fitness come October and will provide the first 15 with another quality player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 09, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 11:45:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 08, 2012, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2012, 09:23:24 PM
Can't agree with you, ITG. St. Galls have better backs than Justin Crozier and Tony Scullion. In fact, Crozier has gone backwards IMO. Sean Kelly, Brady, Anto Healy and Andy are all as good. There isn't a great deal between Mick McCann and Aidso Gallagher. Conor, Kevin and Kieran McGourty, Niblock and Pollock are all as good if not better than Tomas, on their day.

St. Galls have by far the better footballers.

Tomas McCann is a proven inter county player, Kieran and Kevin McGourty are not, nor is Pollock.

Were you at the game tonight?


Anyway's, how crap are Cargin? That was woeful tonight. I think Cargin have went backwards which is a real shame, I really did (for some strange reason) think they would have been better, and in truth they had a lot of ball in the first half but missed a hatfull of chances, too many wides and players running down blind alleys (Scullion) Best Cargin play on show was young Boyle. Never give up and a decent footballer. The Cargin sub, cant mind his name played up front was lively and created chances but our defence was immense.

So Johnnies in the final and if there is one thing about the Johnnies is they love playing finals in Casement and will love to be playing us, that's for sure. Should be a ding dong affair.
Don't think they were playing for the county tonight  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bhoy1888 on September 09, 2012, 09:54:15 AM
aghogill are completey dung bags
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 09, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 11:45:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 08, 2012, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2012, 09:23:24 PM
Can't agree with you, ITG. St. Galls have better backs than Justin Crozier and Tony Scullion. In fact, Crozier has gone backwards IMO. Sean Kelly, Brady, Anto Healy and Andy are all as good. There isn't a great deal between Mick McCann and Aidso Gallagher. Conor, Kevin and Kieran McGourty, Niblock and Pollock are all as good if not better than Tomas, on their day.

St. Galls have by far the better footballers.

Tomas McCann is a proven inter county player, Kieran and Kevin McGourty are not, nor is Pollock.

Were you at the game tonight?


Anyway's, how crap are Cargin? That was woeful tonight. I think Cargin have went backwards which is a real shame, I really did (for some strange reason) think they would have been better, and in truth they had a lot of ball in the first half but missed a hatfull of chances, too many wides and players running down blind alleys (Scullion) Best Cargin play on show was young Boyle. Never give up and a decent footballer. The Cargin sub, cant mind his name played up front was lively and created chances but our defence was immense.

So Johnnies in the final and if there is one thing about the Johnnies is they love playing finals in Casement and will love to be playing us, that's for sure. Should be a ding dong affair.

Some cute hoorism there??!

That Johnnies team havent played in any finals, in Casement or anywhere. Maybe in the 70's or one or 2 at turn of century but not in more than 10 years has thaat club been in a final!

They had the easy side of the draw and Galls will beat them by as much as they want
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
I think Galls beat them in 2001 final, the first of their run of titles that they are now on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on September 09, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Great result from sarsfields, how did they not get promoted this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2012, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
They are excellent no doubt but in my view individually no better than cargin's and in fact not as good. Scullion better than you give him credit for I think but easily riled in club games.

St galls revert to more 7s style possession football when on top. It's grand in Antrim but leaves them susceptible to being caught in ulster.

Well do you still have the view that Cargins best footballers are better that Galls? Based on the semi (lastest form and all that)......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on September 10, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
There are so many inconsistences within our county, i was at the ST gAlls Cargin game @ the weekend, correct me if i'm wrong but the cargin manager was on the sideline, even though he was  sent off against Rasharkin, so how come our CCC did not put a sideline ban on him. After all two mentors from Rasharkin who were not sent off but got lengthly touchline bans! Inconsistent Inconstitent. Its a joke from start to finish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2012, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2012, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
They are excellent no doubt but in my view individually no better than cargin's and in fact not as good. Scullion better than you give him credit for I think but easily riled in club games.

St galls revert to more 7s style possession football when on top. It's grand in Antrim but leaves them susceptible to being caught in ulster.

Well do you still have the view that Cargins best footballers are better that Galls? Based on the semi (lastest form and all that)......

I wasn't at it so can't comment ;D

I wouldn't have changed my view to be fair. I don't mean 15 players and if you read back you will note I said I wouldn't go to this game as the last two have been a farce as st galls won at a canter.

St galls play as a unit- they're well drilled, very fit , can play football, have discipline,play with a plan and play with belief. Cargin fall short in quite a number of those categories. mccanns, o'boyle who I forgot and crozier still as good as what st galls have in my view.

The only thing that would make me want to see cargin beat you is that it would be a change of scenery - it doesn't bother me that they didn't to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on September 10, 2012, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2012, 09:16:55 PM
mccanns, o'boyle who I forgot and crozier still as good as what st galls have in my view.

So you've changed your tack:

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 02:26:07 AM
I actually think cargin's best footballers are better.

Nobody doubts that Cargin have some fine footballers even outwith those you've mentioned, and can put out a formidable 15 with the resources they have. But there's no shame in being beaten by a great team, probably the best club side there ever was in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 11, 2012, 08:58:34 PM
I hear Kieran drayne is ref for sfc final!

Haven't seen him ref in years!

Good luck to him. Will need wing mirrors to keep an eye on the johnnies lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on September 12, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: gaaman24 on September 10, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
There are so many inconsistences within our county, i was at the ST gAlls Cargin game @ the weekend, correct me if i'm wrong but the cargin manager was on the sideline, even though he was  sent off against Rasharkin, so how come our CCC did not put a sideline ban on him. After all two mentors from Rasharkin who were not sent off but got lengthly touchline bans! Inconsistent Inconstitent. Its a joke from start to finish.

How did u work that out?? your mentors were in a punching match with creggan guys if i remember right and got banned, just bloody right, enough of your bleating!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on September 14, 2012, 11:28:48 AM
Mucker!
you would be best to get your facts right, one mentor from Rasharkin was banned for striking the other mentor was banned for entering the field NOT STRIKING,  dont believe everything you hear about Rasharkin, you cant tar everyone from the club with the same brush. :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on September 14, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
oh excuse me! it was only the ONE club official that was punching the lights out of the opposition, how stupid of me, sure the rest of you are just angels. Well wont have to put up with you any longer in div one and from what i seen of u lot div 4 or 5 is waiting.
Bit of sour grapes to be on here complaining bout the Cargin manager after they hammered you lot. catch a grip gman and stop looking to blame others.
johnnies for the double lads!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on September 14, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
Yeah one punch threw by a mentor! u boys would call that a brawl i suspose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 14, 2012, 01:11:26 PM
Use boys will never change gaaman24! Its a pity the refs lost their B***s could have dealt with use properly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on September 14, 2012, 01:19:42 PM
Teams around the county will have to give rasharkin a break, alot of good work is ongoing within the club to promote a good image. Not everyone in the club acts or feels the same way as the guys  that keep bringing the club down!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
Gman, would agree with you, but the fact is until they get rid of this element within the club then they will have to put up with being branded this way. Other clubs have had to do it in the past so now its their turn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gaaman24 on September 14, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
I totally agree with you!
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on September 14, 2012, 02:01:42 PM
Leopard doesnt change his spots!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2012, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: viva the mccooey on September 14, 2012, 02:01:42 PM
Leopard doesnt change his spots!

Great contribution!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on September 14, 2012, 03:06:14 PM
stick to the wee ball forum NAG, this one is for big boys! Was looking at your old posts mate, seems to me you probably from same place at gman and rg, seem to have your nose well up rgs ...side , always sided with him when you should have been calling for them eejets to be banned from everything. to soft nag, to soft. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: viva the mccooey on September 14, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 14, 2012, 01:11:26 PM
Use boys will never change gaaman24! Its a pity the refs lost their B***s could have dealt with use properly.

well said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 15, 2012, 01:22:44 PM
some people going back over old ground on here.
nearly a year on & still talking about u21 incident.
its over, done, been dealt with - move on.
punishments were handed out, move forward.

comments from mibag, mccooey et al aint going to change anything.
mibag, i know why u have a gripe & rightly so, but its over, gone, finished.
rasharkin club has suffered & are trying to get back on their feet.

i dont think the abuse of referees all round, was as bad this year, maybe people have taken heed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 16, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
Is Antrim website tables correct portglenone 2nds are relegated on points difference or is it head to heads?!

Bannside maybe enlighten us!

Some great underage football over the weekend in south west finals, st Endas very strong at u16 level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 16, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
Its points difference. Better off reserve teams go down and club first teams make up div 2 and 3.

Do McDermotts have any youth teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 16, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
Its points difference. Better off reserve teams go down and club first teams make up div 2 and 3.

Do McDermotts have any youth teams?
Good question. I never remember playing against or watching a McDermotts underage team and strangely I never questioned it.

Thomas Maguire made a county hurling panel at one stage. Who did he hurl for as a kid?

Cracking hurler
actually!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2012, 11:17:33 PM
I don't think they have an underage setup.

Maguire county minor footballer too in ulster final 97. Tight boy.

Turley? Best hurler.

Dunno how they produce their players without an underage setup mind you??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on September 17, 2012, 09:10:47 AM
Watched the SW U12 final Allsaints v Cargin and Minor final Cargin v Aldergrove at the weekend. Great games. An excellent Ballymena side won the U12 by a point and the minor game was a cracker. Aldergrove were  well fancied going into the match but it looked like a bit of complacency on their behalf that led to them being 8 down by the start of the second half. Fair play they pulled it back and with 4 mins of injury time there was only a point in it when cargin killed it with a goal against the run of play. Really good games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Re Mc Dermotts and Division three update.

They beat St Brigids seconds yesterday and that leaves us (Portglenone 2`s) Cargin 2 and Mc Dermotts all on joint seventh with 13 points each. The head to head between us and Mc Dermotts was we won one by exactly 2 pts and lost the other by two as well. So the head to head battle was even!

If it is settled by points difference we go down as the worst of the three - in 9th place.

Our target was the reserve cup which we won by beating Cargin seconds in the final, and maintain div 3 status - so close but no cigar! Unless Joe Edwards and co offer us a straight head to head with Mc Dermotts to see who stays up. For some reason I dont see that happening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 10:50:15 PM
Anyone know who this scoundrel 'Assistant Treasurer, Antrim' is who is selling these tickets for £460 plus £6 postage.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/x2-All-Ireland-Football-Final-Tickets-Donegal-v-Mayo-/170911639741?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item27cb20a8bd#ht_500wt_1203

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever exposing wnakers who do this.

Look closely at picture 2 and you will see who the tickets are allocated to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2012, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 18, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
b**tard!

I'm bringing this to the main page.

Now now, he probably give them in good faith to someone, wouldn't jump to conclusions without the facts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 19, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 18, 2012, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2012, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 18, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
b**tard!

I'm bringing this to the main page.

Now now, he probably give them in good faith to someone, wouldn't jump to conclusions without the facts
Balax! There is no way one of the tickets gained by our county board should end up on ebay, charging a fortune.

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 19, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
Apparantly it said this on all tickets Antrim board received. They gave them out to clubs and what clubs do after that is up to them. Many of them even raffle them so this could be literally anyone selling this ticket.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 19, 2012, 12:04:08 PM
still...not good! Antrim look bad again!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on September 19, 2012, 12:26:23 PM
Statement on the Antrim website:

A Chairde,
It has come to our attention that 2 Football tickets, which were allocated to a club in Antrim, are currently on sale via a social networking site.
Theses tickets have now been cancelled and are totally worthless both to the seller and any potential buyer.
Should any other tickets be offered the same action will be taken


Swift action taken ... fair play !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 19, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Yeah. Credit where credits due. 

Good to see the person looking to rip off other gaels get shafted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
Yes and shame on the person who did it.

I would expect that would impact the ticket allocation for whatever club it is in the future too so they have not only lost out themselves but ruined it for their clubmates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on September 21, 2012, 08:04:23 AM
GA looking a shoe in for the Antrim job with KM withdrawing. A partnership of the two would have been an excellent avenue to explore but doesnt look likely now with KM staying with the loop for another season. It is good to see viable candidates from our own county in for the job but i feel we need to invest more in our coaches and try and bring a level of consistency through from the development squads, minor , U21 through to senior, not just with players but also with coaches. Development squads especially need to be looked at. In the not so distant past we have had fellas running these that the children would get better coaching at home with their club. Dont get me wrong there are some good coaches involved but the whole organisation needs to be raised a level to compete with the set ups in Tyrone and Armagh for example.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2012, 09:18:57 AM
SS2 had mentioned John Rafferty being touted about, is this balls or was he interested?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 21, 2012, 11:07:52 AM
After watching him play a few weeks back he could still play for antrim...great manager and great guy too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that our greatest ambassadors St Galls have gone and done it once more.

All Ireland seven a side champions at the Kilmacud sevens.

A credit to our county once again. Looking hungrier than ever and maybe, just maybe, at their absolute peak right now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 22, 2012, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that our greatest ambassadors St Galls have gone and done it once more.

All Ireland seven a side champions at the Kilmacud sevens.

A credit to our county once again. Looking hungrier than ever and maybe, just maybe, at their absolute peak right now.

Not sure you can read anything into a 7s competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 22, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that our greatest ambassadors St Galls have gone and done it once more.

All Ireland seven a side champions at the Kilmacud sevens.

A credit to our county once again. Looking hungrier than ever and maybe, just maybe, at their absolute peak right now.

Awesome team. Best we've ever had by a distance.

Who was their team and who got player of tournament?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 22, 2012, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that our greatest ambassadors St Galls have gone and done it once more.

All Ireland seven a side champions at the Kilmacud sevens.

A credit to our county once again. Looking hungrier than ever and maybe, just maybe, at their absolute peak right now.

Not sure you can read anything into a 7s competition.

Not at all, but it's better than training, nice day in Dublin, overnight stay in hotel, All Ireland sevens cup in club house. Not bad all the same

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2012, 12:21:29 AM
Dosent mean anything??? Try sending your club out to do it!! Oh and winning isnt a bad habit either.........

St Galls continue to fly the flag for football in Antrim - thats what it basically means. Credit where its due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 23, 2012, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2012, 12:21:29 AM
Dosent mean anything??? Try sending your club out to do it!! Oh and winning isnt a bad habit either.........

St Galls continue to fly the flag for football in Antrim - thats what it basically means. Credit where its due.

It means they won a 7s competition, what I said is you can't read anything into how St Galls will go for the rest of the season on the strength of this, it's 7s ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
maybe not. Like I said not bad to have and better than a training session. St. Johns wont be worring about it also. Looking at most teams that went down I think we are the only club to be in their county championship.

I think thats whats reducing the numbers at the competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2012, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 22, 2012, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that our greatest ambassadors St Galls have gone and done it once more.

All Ireland seven a side champions at the Kilmacud sevens.

A credit to our county once again. Looking hungrier than ever and maybe, just maybe, at their absolute peak right now.

Not sure you can read anything into a 7s competition.

Not at all, but it's better than training, nice day in Dublin, overnight stay in hotel, All Ireland sevens cup in club house. Not bad all the same

Well it at the very least means you're flying fit which is ominous for the johnnies as 7s requires a huge fitness level.

To win any all Ireland says a lot for the quality of players you have too.

Sevens play is what st galls do best - can't see st johns doing much about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2012, 08:56:07 AM
Yea yea its only a sevens competition. None of the other 32 teams in it were trying that hard! 4 wins in 8 years is some achievement -  so credit where its due.

There are top football men around the whole country, players and supporters who dont rate Antrim football. But you can rest assured they rate St Galls. Great ambassadors for the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on September 24, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
Great achievement by St Galls. We as a county should be very proud of them and not be putting down or scorning their achievement. I think galls will win the county final at a canter, and i really cant see St Johns ever coming close to them. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 24, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
Well done St.Galls great win and flying the Saffron flag high once again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 12:37:13 PM
Quote from: glens abu on September 24, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
Well done St.Galls great win and flying the Saffron flag high once again.

I'm sure the lads stayed off the drink afterwards and wrapped themselves up in cotton wool. Bed for 9pm and focused on Sat Night at Casement :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 24, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 12:37:13 PM
Quote from: glens abu on September 24, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
Well done St.Galls great win and flying the Saffron flag high once again.

I'm sure the lads stayed off the drink afterwards and wrapped themselves up in cotton wool. Bed for 9pm and focused on Sat Night at Casement :o

Yeah would think so,well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PeteG on September 26, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
Congratulations to St Galls. Nice the way the county board recognised their achievement on the county website!!   ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
Quote from: PeteG on September 26, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
Congratulations to St Galls. Nice the way the county board recognised their achievement on the county website!!   ???

Sure it's only a sevens competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 27, 2012, 01:23:57 PM
Any predictions for Friday night ?

Will St Johns revert to their famous tactics and try and intimidate St Galls or try and play a bit of football ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2012, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 07, 2012, 02:43:35 PM
Gonna stick my neck out! Galls by at least 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And turmoil in the Cargins ranks as a result!

Predictions you say MBAA - gonna stick my neck out again!!!

St.Johns to play behind the ball, maybe leave 2/3 in opposition half - try to minimize St.Galls scores. (which is buns to a bear) ;)

Should be at least 6 in it! Just dont see where they are gettin their scores from!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2012, 04:50:45 PM
If they play that many behind the ball it will be a crap game, Galls by 4

Bookies have us at -6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 28, 2012, 11:13:29 PM
What was st johns game plan, kick, trip pull & haul? Jeepers Creepers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 28, 2012, 11:39:36 PM
Aye wasn't a great ad for next in line. Still scratching my head wondering what they were trying to do. A few neutrals around us could'nt get their head round it. A tenner in too! Could have swore jim Murray even had a redner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
It's a pure money making exercise.

Football no fun these days with st galls winning everything at a canter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2012, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 28, 2012, 11:39:36 PM
Aye wasn't a great ad for next in line. Still scratching my head wondering what they were trying to do. A few neutrals around us could'nt get their head round it. A tenner in too! Could have swore jim Murray even had a redner.

The problem is the fellas in Casement haven't had to pay in to see a match in years so they don't give a f**k.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 29, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
It's a pure money making exercise.

Football no fun these days with st galls winning everything at a canter.

Not our fault imtommygunn, this is clearly a problem for other clubs to reach the bar set, plenty of fun in the club and Casement last night, had to run off the drink from last night. Might have a few more tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
With Burren out of the Down Championship I hear a certain Galls man my put his name into the hat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RandyDupree on September 30, 2012, 01:00:32 AM
What was the hand gestures after the game from the st galls players all about?  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2012, 02:28:11 PM
We beat St. Pauls and are officially safe. Good end to the season from the lads.

Div 1 football and hurling, the premier club is back at the top, fair feat all the same, fooking cnuts :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 02, 2012, 10:54:39 AM
According to IN four names in for the football job, Gearoid, Frank Delargy,Frank Dawson and JC. All good coaches , what a team if would be if you could get them all to work together!!   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2012, 09:38:31 AM
Probably see some white smoke emerging later today on the football job. Will probably come down to the make up of the backroom team.

Wouldnt like to be putting up the odds now. Geroid seems to have lost his battle to bring Madden and Mc Flynn with him, and definitely would need to have a couple of really experienced football men in there too somewhere to have a chance. Maybe he has.

Dawson and Rafferty by far the most experienced and between them years around teams with a fair amount of success. Probably the favourites.

Whitey and McCluskey will have put a serious bid together, and I have a sneaky feeling if Whitey gets in, JC wont be far from his thoughts as a coach/selector. Would be a strong combo too.

Will be an interesting call.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 04, 2012, 10:13:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 09:38:31 AM
Probably see some white smoke emerging later today on the football job. Will probably come down to the make up of the backroom team.

Wouldnt like to be putting up the odds now. Geroid seems to have lost his battle to bring Madden and Mc Flynn with him, and definitely would need to have a couple of really experienced football men in there too somewhere to have a chance. Maybe he has.

Dawson and Rafferty by far the most experienced and between them years around teams with a fair amount of success. Probably the favourites.

Whitey and McCluskey will have put a serious bid together, and I have a sneaky feeling if Whitey gets in, JC wont be far from his thoughts as a coach/selector. Would be a strong combo too.

Will be an interesting call.

did you not forget someone !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
Definitely not Hoof. Dont believe all ya read big yin!!!

Kilrea and Slaughtneil should be a cracker. You headin up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 04, 2012, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
Definitely not Hoof. Dont believe all ya read big yin!!!

Kilrea and Slaughtneil should be a cracker. You headin up?

if it was in screen or glen or lavey or bellaghy or...................sure you could have ten great grounds in south derry to play it in, but i am one of the ones vast against Celtic Park, unless its the final. It was hard enough getting motivated a few weeks ago to go when Bellaghy were in it, never mind a neutral game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Antrim versus Monaghan in next years Ulster championship. They will be a different animal under Malachy O Rourke.

Wonder where it will be played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Antrim versus Monaghan in next years Ulster championship. They will be a different animal under Malachy O Rourke.

Wonder where it will be played?

Casement surely ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Some atmosphere at the Kilrea v Loup  QF game under lights at Bellaghy Hoof. Guess there were 5 or 6 thousand there. Great venue tbh. Will head up to Celtic Park anyway and shout for the Pearses.

When does the work start at Casement Minder. Surely it will be out of action before then!







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 04, 2012, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 04, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Antrim versus Monaghan in next years Ulster championship. They will be a different animal under Malachy O Rourke.

Wonder where it will be played?

Casement surely ?

out of action i think - probably corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Some atmosphere at the Kilrea v Loup  QF game under lights at Bellaghy Hoof. Guess there were 5 or 6 thousand there. Great venue tbh. Will head up to Celtic Park anyway and shout for the Pearses.

When does the work start at Casement Minder. Surely it will be out of action before then!

I doubt the planning permission has been given yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Some atmosphere at the Kilrea v Loup  QF game under lights at Bellaghy Hoof. Guess there were 5 or 6 thousand there. Great venue tbh. Will head up to Celtic Park anyway and shout for the Pearses.

When does the work start at Casement Minder. Surely it will be out of action before then!

The Antrim twitter feed has just said it would be at Casement, work is supposed to take 21 months and open in 2015 so they must be planning to use it next season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2012, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Some atmosphere at the Kilrea v Loup  QF game under lights at Bellaghy Hoof. Guess there were 5 or 6 thousand there. Great venue tbh. Will head up to Celtic Park anyway and shout for the Pearses.

When does the work start at Casement Minder. Surely it will be out of action before then!

I doubt the planning permission has been given yet

Planning permission to be submitted by March 2013
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 04, 2012, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 04, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Some atmosphere at the Kilrea v Loup  QF game under lights at Bellaghy Hoof. Guess there were 5 or 6 thousand there. Great venue tbh. Will head up to Celtic Park anyway and shout for the Pearses.

When does the work start at Casement Minder. Surely it will be out of action before then!

good atmosphere that night alright. Doesnt even have to be under lights now. last weeks game had to be sat night cause of hurling final replay on sun afternoon. no reason why this weeks game couldnt be sat or sun afternoon in either

screen
glen
bellaghy
lavey
swatragh
greenlough
mfelt
glenullin

all good venues with minimal travelling for both teams,spectators and neutrals like me and you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 05, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
Irish News at its lark again!!!
;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
With Burren out of the Down Championship I hear a certain Galls man my put his name into the hat

I think I may be right about this after all. You heard it hear first!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 05, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
County Meeting on Monday night coming - obviously to announce who they want ratified as Football Manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 05, 2012, 08:50:24 PM
Dawsy announced as new football manager tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
Well done to Jim Murray and the management committee.

On all known public information the Dawson/Rafferty combo was standout. Between them they have managed many clubs, and won many county senior titles (at least 4 but possibly more). Sincere congratulations to them both and hopefully its the start of something really good.

Personally I think its a great appointment. Lets all get right behind Big Frank and John Raff to make this work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2012, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
Well done to Jim Murray and the management committee.

On all known public information the Dawson/Rafferty combo was standout. Between them they have managed many clubs, and won many county senior titles (at least 4 but possibly more). Sincere congratulations to them both and hopefully its the start of something really good.

Personally I think its a great appointment. Lets all get right behind Big Frank and John Raff to make this work.

Yeah a serious combination to be fair, having seen John manage at first hand it's brilliant and his training is top draw, he comands respect very quickly and is as fair as they come. Frank has a wealth of knowledge from school/club/intercounty and IF IF IF the players buy into it they will be in contention for most games.

Will maybe start following Antrim on the away games who knows
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 06, 2012, 07:11:46 PM
Ardoyne beat Glenravel 2-4 to 0-9 in Junior (Div 3) Championship Final

What about the clubs in Divs 4, 5 and 6??

Is there no championship for them--how can they compete with Div3 teams?

Senior should be Div 1 and 2, Intermediate 3 and 4 and Junior 5 and 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 06, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
There are 4 'first' teams in total in Div 5/6 combined... hardly makes for much of a Junior championship!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 06, 2012, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 06, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
There are 4 'first' teams in total in Div 5/6 combined... hardly makes for much of a Junior championship!

But Mitchells, Pearses, Ballycastle and Pats Lisburn would love it!

Maybe throw in Div 4 too and you'd get Aggies(altho now promoted to Div 3 for nxt year) and Eire Og but Div 3 is a step too far for Junior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 06, 2012, 09:13:07 PM
Thought it was the champions league I was watching, Ardoyne did that much rolling around. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 06, 2012, 09:13:07 PM
Thought it was the champions league I was watching, Ardoyne did that much rolling around.

Soccer season started ya see, fair few pints in the Ardoyne club last night/today I'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Don Johnson on October 07, 2012, 03:12:14 PM
Could someone not have told one of the teams in the Intermediate final yesterday to wear a different colour?

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on October 07, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
The main man that runs the aghagallon club is in France. I doubt he'll be happy that no one had the foresight to detect the colour clash.

But he'll be back in time for the replay and I have no doubt his return will inspire the aghagallon lads to victory !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2012, 08:45:36 AM
The Aghagallon player with eyes on the ball is Davy Mc Alernon. Now he has had a full year back playing he could be an important county player in the next year or two. Class act/always was!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2012, 09:31:28 AM
Picking up some very disturbing vibes that John Rafferty is NOT actually part of Frank Dawsons backroom team. Can anyone clarify whether or not this is true? Hope I am wrong on this, but my contacts seem fairly certain of this!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 08, 2012, 09:36:41 AM
No idea on this one, however, should the interview process not be run again as i'm sure the backroom teams of each potential manager were also considered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
Maybe best to wait and see what way this plays out CS - esp whether or not JR is involved in Dawsons backroom team. Best not to jump to conclusions just yet until all info is in the public domain.

If Rafferty is not onboard then FD will need to come up with a big name or two fairly quickly. Nothing but a good word to say about Frank Dawson, but inter - county management is no longer about one or two people. Its a whole management team. Look at Derrys for example.

The players will deserve, and expect nothing less!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on October 08, 2012, 12:52:10 PM
RE: the colour clash, what are the rules regarding finals and this? A coin toss?

Both teams probably didn't want to spend an extra £500 on jerseys that they'd never see again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 08, 2012, 12:52:10 PM
RE: the colour clash, what are the rules regarding finals and this? A coin toss?

Both teams probably didn't want to spend an extra £500 on jerseys that they'd never see again.

I'd say most teams have an away rig, the referee in the semi final when Sarsfieds played was wearing a retro Antrim top, I was thinking his top had clashed with their tops!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 08, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 08, 2012, 09:31:28 AM
Picking up some very disturbing vibes that John Rafferty is NOT actually part of Frank Dawsons backroom team. Can anyone clarify whether or not this is true? Hope I am wrong on this, but my contacts seem fairly certain of this!
Once again the Irish News was at their lark with that one!
Frank Dawson never once mentioned Rafferty in the paper!
For what its worth, i would be very surprised if Rafferty is involved - my money is on a certain very recent FORMER club manager from Down, who will come into support Dawson!!!££££!!!

Ofcourse we will just have to wait and find out the finer details after tonights meeting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2012, 02:46:14 PM
If John Rafferty is not part of Franks backroom team then that is disappointing to say the least. The St Galls team of 05/06 was the best prepared team I have seen coming out of Antrim for a long time. Their performance in Portlaoise was outstanding. Nemo Rangers didnt score from play until about the 40th minute if I recall, but the all round play of St Galls that day was unbelievable.

Got to have some faith in Frank Dawson being able to produce a really credible backroom team, and county officers to ensure all thats in place as a standard basic requirement. As I said before, the players will have high expectations, and rightly so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 08, 2012, 03:41:28 PM
Someone who reports for the Andytown News sports dept tweeted that the backroom team might be Cathal Murray (Down) and Kevin Murray (Lámh Dhearg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 08, 2012, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 08, 2012, 03:41:28 PM
Someone who reports for the Andytown News sports dept tweeted that the backroom team might be Cathal Murray (Down) and Kevin Murray (Lámh Dhearg)

That would support my comment - might not cheap, all this!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
Cheap shouldnt enter the equation Deary Me. It takes a certain amount to prepare a team with any kind of aspiration to be a force in Ulster football. That includes, as a minimum requirement a management team of at least three plus a recognised strength/conditioning coach, some kind of statistician/video analyst and some kind of sports psychologist linked to the programme.

Our budget for this, as bottom line essential stuff, should be ring fenced and set aside if we plan to go anywhere!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on October 08, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Congrats to the Ladies. Anyone with a link to what clubs they are all from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 08, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Congrats to the Ladies. Anyone with a link to what clubs they are all from?

especially their midfielder - Geraldine McGinley (McCann) from Cargin. Her husband Enda lifted the Tyrone cship for Errigal two hours later ! Not a bad day ! Not sure of all the clubs. I know the celebrations last night went on about a mile around the road from me, if only i was 15 years younger !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 08, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 08, 2012, 03:41:28 PM
Someone who reports for the Andytown News sports dept tweeted that the backroom team might be Cathal Murray (Down) and Kevin Murray (Lámh Dhearg)

This was confirmed at the County meeting tonight. There is one more to be added to the backroom team from within the County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 09, 2012, 08:29:25 AM
Cathal Murray has an interesting CV that as a player has won Hogan Cups and Sigersons as well as all-ireland medals with Down. He has two Hogans now too as a coach. Should definitely know his way around a football team.

Kevin Murray well thought of too as a coach at QUB. One more to be added by the look of things. I believe big Frank and co can take us up another notch or two. They will need the support of the whole county, so lets get behind them now.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 09, 2012, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 09, 2012, 08:29:25 AM
Cathal Murray has an interesting CV that as a player has won Hogan Cups and Sigersons as well as all-ireland medals with Down. He has two Hogans now too as a coach. Should definitely know his way around a football team.
Kevin Murray well thought of too as a coach at QUB. One more to be added by the look of things. I believe big Frank and co can take us up another notch or two. They will need the support of the whole county, so lets get behind them now.
What did St. Pauls make of him? I remember watching a championship match in Casement between them and St Johns (I think) and I have to say the St Pauls men hadn't many good things to say about Cathal after it.

You can only work with the tools you are given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 09, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Congrats to the Ladies. Anyone with a link to what clubs they are all from?

Congratulations indeed to the ladies, great achievement. Is this their first all ireland win ? Brian coyle has some record with the lady footballers, must be some manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim_81 on October 09, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Must laugh at the above comment about Rasharkin, Rasharkin are a far better team than Div 4 or 5 guaranteed theyl be back in Div 1 next year. With the best midfield in the county bar none its a laughable comment. Forwards of the quality of eamonn mc neill and Johnny Mc Aleese and many more catch yourself on you plunker. And a defence which is quite strong also theyve have an  impressive full back line.  Theyve the best minor footballer in this county as well so i think youll find your comment is just silly. Div 5 catch yourself on you ejit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 09, 2012, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 09, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Congrats to the Ladies. Anyone with a link to what clubs they are all from?

Congratulations indeed to the ladies, great achievement. Is their first all ireland win ? Brian coyle has some record with the lady footballers, must be some manager.

Clare Timoney & Geardine McCann play for Bredagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 09, 2012, 05:22:17 PM
Antrim also won the Junior in 2009. 

The following may not be 100% accurate...Bridget Scullion and Claire Timoney started off at Ballymena, Geraldine McCann at Moneyglass...feel free to correct.

Ciara McCoy (Moneyglass)

Bridget Scullion (Ahoghill)
Emma Kelly (St Paul's)
Sarah Haughey (St Gall's)

Caitlin McHugh (St Paul's)
Nicole Kelly (St Paul's)
Aine Tubridy (St Paul's)

Catherine Mullan (St Brigid's)
Geraldine McCann (Bredagh, Down)

Cathy Carey (Moneyglass)
Kirsty McGuinness (St Paul's, Glentoran, OWC)
Claire Timoney (Bredagh, Down)

Aimee McAtamney (Randalstown)
Anna Finnegan (St Brigid's)
Mairead Cooper (St Paul's)

Edit: Updated info from Rasharkin Gael
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 09, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
Quote from: Antrim_81 on October 09, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Must laugh at the above comment about Rasharkin, Rasharkin are a far better team than Div 4 or 5 guaranteed theyl be back in Div 1 next year. With the best midfield in the county bar none its a laughable comment. Forwards of the quality of eamonn mc neill and Johnny Mc Aleese and many more catch yourself on you plunker. And a defence which is quite strong also theyve have an  impressive full back line.  Theyve the best minor footballer in this county as well so i think youll find your comment is just silly. Div 5 catch yourself on you ejit.

At that rate i'm surprised they didnt win the senior championship.

You wouldnt happen to be from Rasharkin yourself by any chance would you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 11, 2012, 11:46:46 AM
Quote from: outinfront on October 09, 2012, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 09, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Congrats to the Ladies. Anyone with a link to what clubs they are all from?

Congratulations indeed to the ladies, great achievement. Is their first all ireland win ? Brian coyle has some record with the lady footballers, must be some manager.

Clare Timoney & Geardine McCann play for Bredagh.

Geraldine although a Cargin native, played all her first football for Moneyglass as they were the closest Ladies team, Cargin didnt have one.
Antrim won their first Junior All Ireland in 2009 but really struggled then at Intermediate level and were regraded back to Junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 11, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: Antrim_81 on October 09, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Must laugh at the above comment about Rasharkin, Rasharkin are a far better team than Div 4 or 5 guaranteed theyl be back in Div 1 next year. With the best midfield in the county bar none its a laughable comment. Forwards of the quality of eamonn mc neill and Johnny Mc Aleese and many more catch yourself on you plunker. And a defence which is quite strong also theyve have an  impressive full back line.  Theyve the best minor footballer in this county as well so i think youll find your comment is just silly. Div 5 catch yourself on you ejit.

What post are you referring to Antrim 81?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:26:50 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on October 11, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: Antrim_81 on October 09, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Must laugh at the above comment about Rasharkin, Rasharkin are a far better team than Div 4 or 5 guaranteed theyl be back in Div 1 next year. With the best midfield in the county bar none its a laughable comment. Forwards of the quality of eamonn mc neill and Johnny Mc Aleese and many more catch yourself on you plunker. And a defence which is quite strong also theyve have an  impressive full back line.  Theyve the best minor footballer in this county as well so i think youll find your comment is just silly. Div 5 catch yourself on you ejit.

What post are you referring to Antrim 81?

Was wondering that also, plus a better pairing than Aidso and Burkey will be hard to beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 11, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
when and where do galls play in ulster club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
Start of next month in Enniskillen, Brewester Park. Bus trip few pints hopefully a win, semi is in Clones
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 11, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
Think it's Sunday 4th Nov.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2012, 02:51:18 PM
The best midfield pairing at club level, last year anyway, was the intermediate champions Ballymena who'd Paddy Logan and Sean McVeigh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 11, 2012, 02:53:03 PM
Tommy you must be looking a reaction with that statement :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 03:03:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 11, 2012, 02:51:18 PM
The best midfield pairing at club level, last year anyway, was the intermediate champions Ballymena who'd Paddy Logan and Sean McVeigh.

Course, last year? as in the season that's just finished or the season before that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 11, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
Does it matter what f**king year...ffs we had a better pairing in our over 40 tournament a few weeks back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 11, 2012, 04:02:24 PM
To be honest i haven't really witnessed any great midfield " pairings " this season. I have watched a fair few very good individual displays, but can't really think of a duo that stand out. Michael McCann, Paul Doc, aodhan gallagher all have given good performances but are let down by their partners at times. Big fella from Ahoghill great fielder and extremely strong but lacks a bit of mobility around the field, sorry don't know his name.
Tommy was right about All Saints but that was the season before last when Ballymena won Intermediate and Sean and Paddy were fantastic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2012, 09:02:44 PM
St galls pairing complement each other well. Mcveigh and Logan were very good last year- not sure if Logan still playing though?

Rasharkin usually have boys like etherson and one of them hassons to partner Doherty so should be ok.

McCann and Gallagher should be county pairing in my view though.

Dawson a good appointment I think. Hopefully he'll do well. I think we have a decent squad and I hope to see less men behind the ball, though appreciate we need some, and more scores on the board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 11, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
I think you will find aidso & Burkey from galls are best pairing about, no doubt about it.

Anyone think of players who might stand out at trial games for county?

Hopefully the best players turnout, which is not always the case!

For what it's worth here's a few I thought of:
Fergal Burke - Aldergrove
Paul Doherty - rasharkin
Michael McCarry - ballymena
Eamon McNeill - rasharkin
Patrick Kelly - portglenone
Phillip maguire - st Teresa's
Mckeirnan - sarsfields


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2012, 09:43:16 PM
It would be good to see some of those galls boys back too.

Any lamh dhearg minors shaping up? Murray in forwards and Declan lynch is it? I wonder would they be worth a shot.

Full forward and a couple of wing half forwards from the league would be nice. Defence not looking bad but would still love to see Sean Kelly in there though expect it's unlikely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3592 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3592)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 09:31:37 AM
How come some players that were not on last years panel have automatically been invited to this meeting, instead of being put forward by their clubs for the trial games that were announced. Saying that I do agree with the inclusion of most of the names that I refer to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 12, 2012, 09:40:53 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 09:31:37 AM
How come some players that were not on last years panel have automatically been invited to this meeting, instead of being put forward by their clubs for the trial games that were announced. Saying that I do agree with the inclusion of most of the names that I refer to.

slick it looks like that list is made up of anyone involved this last 2 years.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on October 12, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
looks a strong list but there are a few as mentioned before in the thread who would be good enough to be in that mix.  Any news on a change in the league structures in Antrim next year?  New poster and as some of you will gather by my username i am a Rasharkin man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 12, 2012, 12:34:37 PM
wow. No Paul Doc it he the 45!! Absolutely amazed by his exclusion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 12, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 11, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
I think you will find aidso & Burkey from galls are best pairing about, no doubt about it.

Anyone think of players who might stand out at trial games for county?

Hopefully the best players turnout, which is not always the case!

For what it's worth here's a few I thought of:
Fergal Burke - Aldergrove
Paul Doherty - rasharkin
Michael McCarry - ballymena
Eamon McNeill - rasharkin
Patrick Kelly - portglenone
Phillip maguire - st Teresa's
Mckeirnan - sarsfields


I thought Ferghal Burke was the outstanding player in a very well drilled Aldergrove side. If he can keep his fitness level high and the weight off he should be given a chance at county level. Not many new faces given a chance from that panel of 45, wonder who picked it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 12, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 11, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3592 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3592)

One thing I notice if you ignore Michael Magill and Mark McAleese as the sole representatives of Randalstown and Portglenone, you have 43 players from just 9 clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 12, 2012, 01:13:17 PM
No need for all the surprise / bemusement about who's on / not on that list of players names.  OPEN trials for ANY player nominated by their club start in a couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 12, 2012, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 12, 2012, 01:13:17 PM
No need for all the surprise / bemusement about who's on / not on that list of players names.  OPEN trials for ANY player nominated by their club start in a couple of weeks.

Fair enough then, i suppose it gives the new management a starting point anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 12, 2012, 01:48:33 PM
i agree with aontroim, frank dawson prob just asked for a list of who was involved previously & asked them all to a meeting to see if they are all interested in playing for their county again.

give frank a chance to get settled before we shout him down lads!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 12, 2012, 01:50:36 PM
I played under Frank many years ago and i have a great deal of respect for him. Hope it goes well for him and Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim_81 on October 12, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
Massively shocked at Paul Docs exclusion, a midfielder who no doubt can mix it with the best. Maybe a misprint? Also as a country native im disappointed on the number of country men listed a few more are definetely quality enough for this panel. Seen a few defenders from portglenone, st endas, Aghagalln and one from rasharkin who i would like to see given their chance. Although if it is an open trial and not just the ones named then i suppose the list is no big deal (hope that is the case) would be a good start for the new manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: Antrim_81 on October 12, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
Massively shocked at Paul Docs exclusion, a midfielder who no doubt can mix it with the best. Maybe a misprint? Also as a country native im disappointed on the number of country men listed a few more are definetely quality enough for this panel. Seen a few defenders from portglenone, st endas, Aghagalln and one from rasharkin who i would like to see given their chance. Although if it is an open trial and not just the ones named then i suppose the list is no big deal (hope that is the case) would be a good start for the new manager.

I would say after the performance Cargin put in this year they are behind Lamhs the rest of the SW teams have been crap also, been very surprised at how poor Creegan have been of late, the underage teams they have had over the years have been decent and any time Ive seen them at juvenile level they have been good.

So to answer your post, the SW teams need to improve a wee bit more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 13, 2012, 12:38:13 PM
any thoughts or predictions for U-21 c'ship, 6 games down for today with 2 teams already in 1/4 finals. Glenavy, Cargin, Creggan, St John's, Dunloy and Rossa to progress, let's see... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 17, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
Congrats to Antrim goalkeeper Ciara McCoy who has been nominated for an All Star.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 17, 2012, 01:41:52 PM
Neither football nor hurling and has been covered on the main board but congrats to Aisling Reilly (St Paul's), Women's Singles World Handball Champion, beating Fiona Shannon, also of St Paul's, in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 18, 2012, 08:07:04 PM
I noticed frank Dawson recently at the junior and intermediate Antrim club finals and another day at a club final in another county.  Good to see him out and about.  Hope we'll see some more new faces. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 18, 2012, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: jdyok on October 13, 2012, 12:38:13 PM
any thoughts or predictions for U-21 c'ship, 6 games down for today with 2 teams already in 1/4 finals. Glenavy, Cargin, Creggan, St John's, Dunloy and Rossa to progress, let's see... 8)

5 out of 6 last wee, must try harder. This week I'll go for 4 home wins, L Dearg, Glenavy, St John's and Cargin, anyone else agree/disagree? 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2012, 08:59:55 PM
I take it lamh dhearg are favourites??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Disagree. The one team that caught you out last week will probably do so again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2012, 09:28:49 PM
The Lamhs are favourites to win this out of the park ITG. Ulster club minor champions a few years ago, and no less than 13 Antrim County minors in their ranks last three years. Short Odds on even at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 18, 2012, 10:13:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 18, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Disagree. The one team that caught you out last week will probably do so again.

could be right Bannside, would be good to see... I think winners play St John's or Dunloy in the semi-final... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 22, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179659

Have you ever heard anything like this in your life!!!!

If i was a ciaran man, i know what i would be saying to McGuckin! WONDER IS HE GETTING TIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
Out go Lamh Dhearg and Portglenone win by 7. Interesting results. Almost an all south west semi lineup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 22, 2012, 07:16:20 PM
To be honest ITG neither of those were really that surprising. The Lamhs would have been paper favourites due to the sheer number of players who have represented the county, and particularly their huge Ulster win a couple of years ago. But I know Creggan also fancy themselves to go all the way.

Then again last year with six or seven county minors on the pitch they were turned over by St Johns - so how do you answer that?

Wide open now. St Johns won two minors in a row and will be fancying themselves to go all the way. Hope JYDOK tips them this week!!! (LOL)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2012, 09:00:31 PM
Minor doesn't always seem to translate to u21... I thought with lamh dhearg winning the league that was their young boys coming through. St johns always seem to lose a lot from minor as well.

Fair play to creggan. I was hoping they'd have been closer to cargin/ st galls at senior level by now but hopefully still a lot to come through.

Maybe we'll see portglenone back in division 1 soon too...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2012, 09:00:31 PM
Minor doesn't always seem to translate to u21... I thought with lamh dhearg winning the league that was their young boys coming through. St johns always seem to lose a lot from minor as well.

Fair play to creggan. I was hoping they'd have been closer to cargin/ st galls at senior level by now but hopefully still a lot to come through.
Maybe we'll see portglenone back in division 1 soon too...

As like the first part of your post it doesn't always translate to senior also. Who knows why, sometimes an inspirational manager gets that extra 20 percent out of the team or a bitta luck in winning a championship sets the team on their way. They are then competing for finals every year. After this years performances though I think we may win the next 3/4 championships!! That's not us getting better by the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
It is probably difficult with the focus though milltown. The last god knows how many antrim championships have been won in second gear.

The hope would always have been that other teams would rise to that level but it doesn't appear to be happening and your only way of being beat looks to be a downward spiral rather than an upward one from anyone else.

Gort na mona had lots of good minors too but they appear to have faded away.

I still don't understand how cargin can't be better with the players at their disposal.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2012, 12:14:20 AM
It seems to come in cycles. When I was a nipper St Johns were the team. Then it was Galls and a bit of St Teresas for a bit. St Pauls came on the scene and won three or four titles I believe. Then St Galls came with their current run.

The only constant is that Cargin are always thereabouts in the mix.

If I am honest the biggest disappointment recently has been the levelling off of St Bridgids after a great 4/3/2/1 run. They havent kicked on, and yet there isnt a club better organised anywhere.

Would it not be safe to say that St Galls underage conveyor belt has slowed away down too. Good bit away from the likes of Andy/Nibs/Aidso/Gribbeys et all who must have had 4 under twenty ne championship medals at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on October 23, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 22, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179659

Have you ever heard anything like this in your life!!!!

If i was a ciaran man, i know what i would be saying to McGuckin! WONDER IS HE GETTING TIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Initially i was in disbelief at what Ronan had done and would agree with you DM, but it seems when he took on the job of manager initially he informed the EC committee that if this situation ever arose he would stand a side, so far play to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 01:16:33 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on October 23, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 22, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179659

Have you ever heard anything like this in your life!!!!

If i was a ciaran man, i know what i would be saying to McGuckin! WONDER IS HE GETTING TIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Initially i was in disbelief at what Ronan had done and would agree with you DM, but it seems when he took on the job of manager initially he informed the EC committee that if this situation ever arose he would stand a side, so far play to him.
I have heard something similar is in place in st galls if they too were to meet Errigal as their training team hail from there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
Lads I see it the completely other way. This dosent shock me at all. I would say there is no man worth his salt who would ever manage a club to beat his own in a game of this importance. Never a chance in hell that Ronan Mc Guckin would manage against the Shamrocks.

Nothing at all in the least bit unusual about this. It goes with the territory. You dont plot your own clubs downfall - period!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
Lads I see it the completely other way. This dosent shock me at all. I would say there is no man worth his salt who would ever manage a club to beat his own in a game of this importance. Never a chance in hell that Ronan Mc Guckin would manage against the Shamrocks.

Nothing at all in the least bit unusual about this. It goes with the territory. You dont plot your own clubs downfall - period!

If a team is getting to ulster club championship games then their downfall is far from happening anytime soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
Lads I see it the completely other way. This dosent shock me at all. I would say there is no man worth his salt who would ever manage a club to beat his own in a game of this importance. Never a chance in hell that Ronan Mc Guckin would manage against the Shamrocks.

Nothing at all in the least bit unusual about this. It goes with the territory. You dont plot your own clubs downfall - period!

Will he be having a quiet word with ballinderrys management team then to avoid that downfall ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
Lads I see it the completely other way. This dosent shock me at all. I would say there is no man worth his salt who would ever manage a club to beat his own in a game of this importance. Never a chance in hell that Ronan Mc Guckin would manage against the Shamrocks.

Nothing at all in the least bit unusual about this. It goes with the territory. You dont plot your own clubs downfall - period!

If a team is getting to ulster club championship games then their downfall is far from happening anytime soon.
I think he means in a particular game rather than in general.

Well I take plotting the downfall of your club as a bigger thing than a championship game, but sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2012, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:43:45 PM
Yes but you are not very wise.

To take this as far as you can go, the ultimate downfall of a club would be to not field any teams at any age group and end up defunct. To be able to do this as a manager of a club team in another county would be some feat.

By downfall, he means in this game.

Other examples:

Antrim beat Donegal. Donegal had most of the play but kicking 17 wides was their downfall.

NB This does not mean that Donegal ceased to be.


Hardstation tries hard and shows great enthusiasm in mathematics but long division is his downfall.

NB This does not mean that hardstation lay down and died when asked 24 into 865.

seriously???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 24, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
excellent work HS!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 25, 2012, 06:26:33 PM
From antrim website:

QuoteFrank Dawson has recruited Paddy Graffin as a selector on his backroom team.

Paddy, From St Marys, Ahoghill, managed Cargin senior football team in 2012 and also was part of the County Minor Football management team from 2011 - 2012.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 25, 2012, 08:50:06 PM
Anyone hear how trial went tues night?

Heard under 30 turned up!
Dawson has a training plan done out for 4 nights a week before Christmas, going up to 5 nights after it!
Be big commitment to be part of his panel, hopefully our best players buy into it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 26, 2012, 01:11:42 PM
Good call by Frank Dawson. Paddy Graffin played full back for Cragin and Antrim too. A good operator who will get the best out of his quota of players. The three selectors have all the links you need with the top clubs in the county at the minute.

If thats true about four nights rising to five after Christmas, thats what it takes. November to February the only time to get serious conditioning work done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on October 27, 2012, 02:54:48 PM
Who are the others?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pragmatist on October 27, 2012, 04:29:07 PM
I am now convinced that the naysayers have been right all along. For years I tried to promote the idea that we can improve players' decision-making on and off the ball, their movement off the ball, their positional sense, their timing of runs and their abilities to adapt to different game plans and attacking options. The truth is that for 90% of players we cannot!!
They bring with them their own inbuilt cerebral limitations for these skills and we can labour for as long as we want and convince ourselves we see glimmers of hope, but the fact is that they will revert to type more often than not.
Just get them as fit as possible, as well-conditioned as possible and as technically proficient as possible and forget the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2012, 09:24:13 PM
What are you selling? A book?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 09:30:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2012, 09:24:13 PM
What are you selling? A book?

The Pragmatist- History of Derry football training.  Serious axe to grind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 28, 2012, 09:29:48 AM
Its St Johns versus Creggan in the U-21 final.

Portglenone took St Johns into extra time, and lets just say that Davy Mc Grath wont be getting any Christmas cards from Portglenone this year! I am not on for referee bashing but i have never seen so many normally placid supporters get so animated after a game.

Credit to St Johns for hanging in there and getting a result. They have some serious players coming through but they were on the ropes in this one and only hit the front for the first time in extra time. Should be an interesting final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 29, 2012, 08:12:39 PM
Got same version of events about u21 game today ban side from an ahoghill man who said portglenone were hard done by!

He also said paddy Kelly had a great game & the watching county manager was impressed by a few who will get a call in near future!

Good to hear frank Dawson is keeping his eyes and ears open.

Apparently there was another trial game on sat including last years panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
Can anyone shed any light on this.

The referee for Saturdays county semi final between ST JOHNS and Portglenone was Davy Mc Grath.

When I go into the referees section of the county website I see Davy Mc Grath - CLUB ST JOHNS !!!!

Please someone tell me this is not the same person.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
Couldn't be...

That would be a mess up of mammoth proportions...

I smell an appeal!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
Don`t want to dive in to anything head first ITG - but I have asked a question on the county guestbook which has not appeared yet. Maybe it hasnt been updated yet - so will see if it appears tomorrow. It simply asks who the referee was for the match, and if it gets a reply my next question is to ask which club he represents.

It couldnt possibly be a referee from the same club. Just couldnt happen - must be something I`m missing!

Any Johnnies men on here that could shed some light on it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 29, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
hey lads i need your help a group of us are going up to casement park next weekend for the match for Michaela one of our club mates is playing for the ulster team and we are planing to stay the night and hit the town after. Is there any places to stay near casement park hotels or hostels etc that you would recommend for the night doesn't have to be anything fancy just a place to lay our sore heads for a few hours if you have any recommendations could you send me info through private mail  thanks in advance lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2012, 10:58:44 PM
Bannside i would guess ther's just a mistake somewhere. Apart from various levels of committee etc delegating the referee there's the guy himself - you wouldn't leave yourself open to it. I suspect that list quite old looking at it too.

No good hostels in belfast. City centre not far with a few holiday inns about so should get a hotel cheap enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
I can see that the referees panel on the co website is out of date ITG - maybe by up to three or four years even. Thats why I dont want to jump in head first. Probably a simple enough explanation to it, as you say the guy himself surely wouldnt compromise himself. Would be good to put it to bed though. The players are talking about it themselves though and Im the one who is telling them to chill a bit - there has to be a sound enough explanation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 29, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
I can see that the referees panel on the co website is out of date ITG - maybe by up to three or four years even. Thats why I dont want to jump in head first. Probably a simple enough explanation to it, as you say the guy himself surely wouldnt compromise himself. Would be good to put it to bed though. The players are talking about it themselves though and Im the one who is telling them to chill a bit - there has to be a sound enough explanation.

Davy is a good mate of mine, and he's a Galls man, never been a Johnnies man, I doubt very much with the history of the two clubs that he'd be going out of his way to give the Johnnies any favours. Wasn't at the game so can't say if he made St Johns win the game or if Portglenone lost the game by playing badly when so far in front.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2012, 08:33:09 AM
Thanks MR. If Davy has never been a St Johns man then thats it put to bed - period. Simple error on the county website caused some confusion.

And we did throw it away ourselves. Had enough chances to finish the contest and didnt take them. Good luck to St Johns they are a great side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 30, 2012, 06:23:35 PM
thanks imtommygunn for the info
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 02, 2012, 10:47:35 PM
Senior Football- Players Meeting + Trial

05 November 2012
the following players are requested to attend UUJ at 7pm on Tuesday 6th November
1   Gerard   Mallon   Aldergrove
2   Tiernan   Hughes   Ardoyne
3   Sean McVeigh   Ballymena
4   Peter McNicholl   Ballymena
5   Tomas   McCann   Cargin
6   Tony           Scullion   Cargin
7   Justin   Crozier   Cargin
8   Kevin O'Boyle   Cargin
9   James   Laverty   Cargin
10   Fergal   Johnston   Cargin
11   Kieran   Close   Cargin
12   Michael   McCann   Cargin
13   John           Carron   Cargin
14   Mark           Dougan   Creggan
15   Dermot McCann   Creggan
16   Ricky Johnston   Creggan
17   Martin   Johnston   Creggan
18   David   McGuckin   Creggan
19   Aiden McKeown   Creggan
20   Hugh           McNulty   Creggan
21   Conor   Murray   Lamh Dhearg
22   Paddy   Cunningham   Lamh Dhearg
23   Brendan    Herron   Lamh Dhearg
24   Declan   Lynch   Lamh Dhearg
25   John           Finucane   Lamh Dhearg
26   Michael   Herron   Lamh Dhearg
27   Ryan     Murray   Lamh Dhearg
28   Colm     Duffin   Moneyglass
29   Benny   Marron   Moneyglass
30   Niall            Delargy   Portglenone
31   Dermot McAleese   Portglenone
32   Paddy   Kelly     Portglenone
33   Paul            Doherty   Rasharkin
34   Sean            Finch   Rossa
35   Donal Armstrong   Rossa
36   Colm     Fleming   Rossa
37   Paddy   Fitzpatrick   Sarsfields
38   Mark            Sweeney   St Brigids
39   Conal   Kelly   St Johns
40   Patrick   McBride   St Johns
41   Liam            Carland   St Pauls
42   Michael     Magill   Tir na Og


Good to see alot of new faces listed for this!

Good luck to all Antrim teams in ulster this weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2012, 05:37:22 PM
Agreed Culchie. Paul Doc and Sean Mc Veigh will both add an extra physical dimension.

Two still missing though in my book. Michael Mc Carry (All Saints) and David Mc Alernon (Aghagallon). Would feel a lot better if I saw those couple of names in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 03, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
Yeah I heard Paul doc stood out a mile at trials!

Mcveigh is having some kind of op shortly but will hopefully be ok for McKenna cup.

Mccarry is one omission I noticed also, Eamon McNeill & fergal burke not there either, maybe they can't commit or didn't show up at trials!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 04, 2012, 01:14:57 AM
Lads I appreciate ur insight but don't forget that dawsy can only pick a panel of 30 and with at least ten st galls players to be added that only leaves 20 players to pick from over meaning half those names mentioned will miss out. So bearing that in mind would those 2 players still make ur panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
Dawsy and his selectors opinions are the ones that really matter. But I always found that when you talked to people who have spent  a long time watching footballers, they wont be too far away in their judgement calls. The danger is when it gets smacks of nepotism and all the recomendations are about players in your own club. In fairness, the selectors have thrown their nets far and wide and at the end of the day wont be far away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 04, 2012, 02:06:48 PM
No nepotism involved with me. I'd be the first to criticise my own club players. I'm just calling it as I see it and if all players make themselves available then IMO Dawsy would have at least ten players from st galls. Now I'm including the likes of karl stewart in this but karls first love is hurling so may not be an option. However, chris kerr, andy, kelly, aidso, burkey, cj, pollock, kevin mc g, karl, niblock. Any of those ten you wouldn't include?. Add to that list, terry o neil, anto healy, brady and I think ten won't be far off. Nepotism no. Just going on pure talent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
No Gribbeys or Ciaran Mc Gort. Definitely two of your better performers in recent years!!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 04, 2012, 03:40:47 PM
Again another 2 very strong contenders. But that is my point. Hard to argue against including ten. And after todays display so far these guys are just getting better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 04, 2012, 07:02:20 PM
Lads, when you've stopped looking at every player from My Own Navel GAC, does anybody know why James Loughrey isn't on the list?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2012, 07:23:46 PM
Class player and thats def the post of the day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 04, 2012, 08:24:42 PM
Totally agree with u on the st galls players, as they r county champs and have been most consistent side in the last twelve years.

Also when take that 9 Cargin men have made the panel thus far!

I just think its good to have fresh faces about the panel, competition for places in the panel let alone team will be stiff!

Galls had a mighty impressive win today, I expected a win but not by so much.
Any win away in ulster club is hard fought.
Game against kilcoo will prob be in Armagh, hopefully I will get I to it to support them, a great bunch of fellas and a complete team.
Head Kevin mcgourty got injured early on today, hopefully not too serious for next day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 05, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
Kevin looks after himself well and was rehydrating rightly after the match so will be fine for next game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2012, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 05, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
Kevin looks after himself well and was rehydrating rightly after the match so will be fine for next game.

I can vouch for that, I was also rehydrating rightly to the point that I can't function today. Plenty of hand outs I think will get me through the day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mourne man on November 06, 2012, 10:21:01 PM
any word on how the trialls went at the weekend?? who where the stand out players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mourne man on November 07, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
Can anyone tell me who the new st brigids manager is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 07, 2012, 06:38:19 PM
Bishop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on November 07, 2012, 07:55:17 PM
John or Trainor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 07, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
Philip
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 11, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Aghagallon beat Termon in ulster 1/4 final.  Great David McAlernon goal plus poor shooting from Termon got them home.  Warrenpoint in semi.  Tough one but sure why not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 12, 2012, 10:42:27 AM
Great result for Aghagallon, hope they continue that form on Sunday, good double header at the Athletic grounds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onion Bag on November 12, 2012, 02:54:52 PM
Quote from: manballandall on November 07, 2012, 06:38:19 PM
Bishop

Is that the same Bishop from Grange in Armagh that was involved in some shape or form with St Galls in the couple of years, also helped John Mc Closkey with the circuits up in stranmillis

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 12, 2012, 03:13:40 PM
I would suggest that is who MANBALLANDALL if referring to, although i would be majorly surprised if it were true!
But then Celtic did beat Barcelona!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 03:14:20 PM
Thats the boy...knows the game inside out. Not given the credit he deserved at st galls. Think he deserved as much credit as Lenny in winning the all ireland. Called a lot of shots on the sideline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 12, 2012, 03:19:14 PM
Someone is at their lark here MANBALLANDALL!

Would have thought there wasnt to many decisions made by anyone other than certain players on the field!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 04:22:13 PM
Deserves as much credit as lenny....take out of that what you like ;)

I said he was calling the shots...never once said anyone listened to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on November 12, 2012, 05:34:19 PM
 good escape
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onion Bag on November 12, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
Is st brigids seniors in div 1? That's a big job with a bit of pressure involved for Bishop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
I don't think there's any truth in that rumour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on November 12, 2012, 09:48:53 PM
Club website says different  to the Bishop angle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2012, 09:52:55 PM
I think there are some crossed wires as to who everyone is talking about then.

St brigids new manager is des jennings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 12, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
I heard Bish was maybe goin to involved in the new Armagh set-up in some regard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 10:16:14 PM
Whose nickname is? Bishop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Must be plenty of money around the malone club. Is this the same guy who was interviewed for galls job last year?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on November 12, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
galls interview ? - yes, same guy and from what I heard from a source, he was not impressed with either the process and its quality

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 11:11:37 PM
Most people aren't impressed when they don't get selected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 11:15:08 PM
I think st galls made a great selection in their current management. Football anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 13, 2012, 09:15:07 AM
Fair play to Des Jennings- good to see him getting his chance at actually managing. Is he alone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
No. Bishops with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 13, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
No. Bishops with him.

John or Trainor ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Quote from: manballandall on November 13, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
No. Bishops with him.

John or Trainor ?

::) ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on November 13, 2012, 04:54:09 PM
no doubt Bishop will get expect to get  better resource support from St. Brigid's than was the case at Saint Galls. Isin't that the reason the All Ireland winning management team stood down last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 13, 2012, 07:49:34 PM
I think you'll find that the management got everything they asked of the committee and even got some stuff the committee were never asked for. But you know that as much as me ;). Old ground anyway, st galls have a good management team in place now and are going well. St brigids need some spirtual intervention to help them push st galls so maybe bishop can provide that if nothing else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 14, 2012, 01:00:33 PM
I see St.Galls are getting a wee touch on the Antrim County Guestbook!!! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 14, 2012, 02:07:42 PM
Good luck to St.Galls on Sunday,look forward to them having another go at Cross.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 16, 2012, 08:57:01 AM
Kevin Kidd new St Comgalls manager. Peter McKeever with St St Teresa's. Is the Des Jennings with Brigids the same one as used to work in SINI?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 10:43:04 AM
Thats the same boy...sports psychology his background i believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
Tweet from Sean McVeigh to say his scans have shown his heart has naturally reverted back to normal so he is back playing again.

That's good news. I thought he looked very good for Ballymena. Hopefully if back in the country he can make some kind of impact on the county panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
curious:
no doubt Bishop will get expect to get  better resource support from St. Brigid's than was the case at Saint Galls. Isin't that the reason the All Ireland winning management team stood down last year......  It seems that the previous football management weren't too despondent with the resources they received if one of the management has allowed his name to go fwd for the hurling job alongside a n other?. Is this true MR2? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 16, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
Tweet from Sean McVeigh to say his scans have shown his heart has naturally reverted back to normal so he is back playing again.

That's good news. I thought he looked very good for Ballymena. Hopefully if back in the country he can make some kind of impact on the county panel.

Good news.  I've seen Sean play a couple of times and he always looked like a handy footballer.  Did well with London too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 17, 2012, 09:48:32 AM
Great news this morning for Sean McVeigh. If he is fit and committed he will push for his place at centrefield or at least give Frank an option.
Any word on the football think tanks theories for restructure. I have heard the hurling options but nothing for the big ball. If these are passed at convention will they come into effect for the 2013 season or does there have to be a time lag of a season between being passed and implemented? I have heard different theories! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 17, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
Any changes will take a 2 3rds majority to change it this year.

Football focus groups findings are due this week.
Heard they want leagues to revert to the old div1 senior & reserve format!
Also they want all county underage leagues!

Good luck to Aghagallon & st galls tomorrow in their semi finals!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rossa_SMacM on November 20, 2012, 05:21:01 PM
I see the Lamh Dearg men are proving themselves to be gentlemen on twitter in the aftermath of St Galls' defeat. Bad taste to be honest if you ask me.

@McVarnock @lamhdhearg09 if you want to follow it. I was going to respond but didn't want to fuel it.  Its stinking that these young kids are being so insulting to fellow Gaels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2012, 11:08:47 PM
Quote from: Rossa_SMacM on November 20, 2012, 05:21:01 PM
I see the Lamh Dearg men are proving themselves to be gentlemen on twitter in the aftermath of St Galls' defeat. Bad taste to be honest if you ask me.

@McVarnock @lamhdhearg09 if you want to follow it. I was going to respond but didn't want to fuel it.  Its stinking that these young kids are being so insulting to fellow Gaels.

I'd worry about it if they started to win things at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 21, 2012, 07:58:27 PM
Why the big surprise with this? Wouldn't expect anything less. If this is the best they can come up with then its hilarious, childish and you're right HS downright embarassing for the club up the hill. If we were to do that about the lambs we'd end up like tweety pie tweeting every week:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 21, 2012, 08:04:30 PM
I see St Galls keeper Chris Kerr made a bit of a dick out of himself on the Twitter after the match and has now protected his account so that nobody can see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 21, 2012, 09:35:57 PM
Enlighten us saffron
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 21, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
The guy in question is a great fella who only posted a tweet to start a bit of banter. this tweet is not the opinion of the Lamh Dhearg club or fellow players just a guy messing with people on twitter and now its been blown out of all proportion. Certain St Galls players always have opinions on our county its players and its managers and they dont mind publishing them in main stream papers and theres not this much fuss kicked up about it so its time to wind our necks in. Im sure conor regrets how much grief his tweet has caused but it was no doubt a tweet sent to cause a discussion. If conor's tweet saying it was the end of an era for St Galls has upset so many people then they must have very little to worry about. Having been at the match i did witness St Galls so called stars vent their anger at their manager when things wernt going their way and he substituted them but then again its never their fault just everyone elses. I think conors tweet is a place for a few of them to hide behind. ANYWAY CROSS ARE DIFFERENT GRAVY so saved a few Galls supporters a few quid on travel and ticket expenses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 22, 2012, 07:41:51 AM
Nobody upset on here, certainly not myself or MR2. In fact I think we didsmissed it and would take a lot more than a tweet to upset us. The majority of our club like to do our talking on the pitch and even the players you hinted at in your post have done plenty of talking on the pitch against the lambs. So we will leave it at that until we meet again in the championship and maybe save the lambs supporters a few quid again ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 22, 2012, 08:46:54 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 22, 2012, 07:41:51 AM
Nobody upset on here, certainly not myself or MR2. In fact I think we didsmissed it and would take a lot more than a tweet to upset us. The majority of our club like to do our talking on the pitch and even the players you hinted at in your post have done plenty of talking on the pitch against the lambs. So we will leave it at that until we meet again in the championship and maybe save the lambs supporters a few quid again ;)

Very generous offer in these hard times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2012, 10:07:56 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 21, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
The guy in question is a great fella who only posted a tweet to start a bit of banter. this tweet is not the opinion of the Lamh Dhearg club or fellow players just a guy messing with people on twitter and now its been blown out of all proportion. Certain St Galls players always have opinions on our county its players and its managers and they dont mind publishing them in main stream papers and theres not this much fuss kicked up about it so its time to wind our necks in. Im sure conor regrets how much grief his tweet has caused but it was no doubt a tweet sent to cause a discussion. If conor's tweet saying it was the end of an era for St Galls has upset so many people then they must have very little to worry about. Having been at the match i did witness St Galls so called stars vent their anger at their manager when things wernt going their way and he substituted them but then again its never their fault just everyone elses. I think conors tweet is a place for a few of them to hide behind. ANYWAY CROSS ARE DIFFERENT GRAVY so saved a few Galls supporters a few quid on travel and ticket expenses.

Great to see a new poster on board, how are St Malachy's fairing lately? Hard enough to get the lads out come soccer season, had a good manager there lately, will he be coming back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
 :) yes St malachys are doing well. We had a great manager last year and are confident he will stay this year also, he had his work cut out trying to get the guys to buy into the work ethic and training but the guys who did are hoping seamy stays this year so we can improve and hopefully get promoted . we had a great run in the beringer cup beating some highly fancied teams including st galls but our league form was not as good for a variety of reasons and yes soccer was one of them but we still do our best with what we have. If a St Malachys player had tweeted the message the Lamh Dhearg player had would it have been taken so seriously. I don't think it would. As for St Galls not getting tough matches in the antrim championship i think that's wrong, i seen the match with Lamh Dhearg and it was a great game possibly the game of the championship and St Galls experience saw them over the line against a very youthful Lamh dhearg side. i would have fancied Lamh Dhearg to have beaten Tempo in ulster if they had won Antrim so i think Antrim club championship is as strong as any in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
:) yes St malachys are doing well. We had a great manager last year and are confident he will stay this year also, he had his work cut out trying to get the guys to buy into the work ethic and training but the guys who did are hoping seamy stays this year so we can improve and hopefully get promoted . we had a great run in the beringer cup beating some highly fancied teams including st galls but our league form was not as good for a variety of reasons and yes soccer was one of them but we still do our best with what we have. If a St Malachys player had tweeted the message the Lamh Dhearg player had would it have been taken so seriously. I don't think it would. As for St Galls not getting tough matches in the antrim championship i think that's wrong, i seen the match with Lamh Dhearg and it was a great game possibly the game of the championship and St Galls experience saw them over the line against a very youthful Lamh dhearg side. i would have fancied Lamh Dhearg to have beaten Tempo in ulster if they had won Antrim so i think Antrim club championship is as strong as any in Ulster.

St Malachy's would have beaten Tempo ffs! If the lads from St Malachy's buy into Seamy's work ethic they'll do great.

Lamhs don't believe they can beat us, as do the Johnnies. When we were winning underage titles our seniors were winning senior titles, a lot of the players from those good juvenile (minor, under 21) teams don't even play anymore and they were as good as the Johnny and Lamhs players. No guarantee that they will be able to take that to senior, Lamhs good minor team was beaten in the under 21 championship so they have fallen back already, not good form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 22, 2012, 02:51:32 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
:) yes St malachys are doing well. We had a great manager last year and are confident he will stay this year also, he had his work cut out trying to get the guys to buy into the work ethic and training but the guys who did are hoping seamy stays this year so we can improve and hopefully get promoted . we had a great run in the beringer cup beating some highly fancied teams including st galls but our league form was not as good for a variety of reasons and yes soccer was one of them but we still do our best with what we have. If a St Malachys player had tweeted the message the Lamh Dhearg player had would it have been taken so seriously. I don't think it would. As for St Galls not getting tough matches in the antrim championship i think that's wrong, i seen the match with Lamh Dhearg and it was a great game possibly the game of the championship and St Galls experience saw them over the line against a very youthful Lamh dhearg side. i would have fancied Lamh Dhearg to have beaten Tempo in ulster if they had won Antrim so i think Antrim club championship is as strong as any in Ulster.

No, you're messing . Right ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 22, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
Who would get on Gall's team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2012, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on November 22, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
Who would get on Gall's team?

Brendan Herron is a decent club footballer, what position?  we could have done with a FF on sunday he could have played there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 22, 2012, 03:42:37 PM
Brendan isnt the player he was a few years back when he was good for antrim around midfield.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
i never said St Malachys would beat Tempo i said Lamh Dhearg would and i may also point out that Lamh Dhearg minors that won ulster dont reach u21 until next year. I haven't heard any talk of St Galls minors or u21s competing strongly for a few years now in fact the talk is that at last weeks minor football league final which St Johns won easily the St Galls minor management left the field before the match ended using the excuse he had to go to senior training. could the lack of underage success and i mean u16-minor within St Galls be leading to other teams hoping they could finally win a senior championship, St Galls players have a lot of miles on their clocks and they haven't got the replacements coming through. St Galls have had a run in antrim that will never be replicated in our time but all good things must come to an end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rossa_SMacM on November 22, 2012, 05:39:09 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
i never said St Malachys would beat Tempo i said Lamh Dhearg would and i may also point out that Lamh Dhearg minors that won ulster dont reach u21 until next year. I haven't heard any talk of St Galls minors or u21s competing strongly for a few years now in fact the talk is that at last weeks minor football league final which St Johns won easily the St Galls minor management left the field before the match ended using the excuse he had to go to senior training. could the lack of underage success and i mean u16-minor within St Galls be leading to other teams hoping they could finally win a senior championship, St Galls players have a lot of miles on their clocks and they haven't got the replacements coming through. St Galls have had a run in antrim that will never be replicated in our time but all good things must come to an end.


What on earth makes you think St Galls are at an end? No harm but you sound a bit like those lamh dearg posters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
Well their players ain't getting any younger and other clubs have had some well publicised success at a variety of levels like St Johns who's minors and u21s look to be cleaning up Lamh Dhearg who's minors won ulster even Rossa who's u16s won the Paul MC Girr i mean these clubs are achieving great success with these teams yet no sign of St Galls at these levels. St Galls will be about for another few years i have no doubt but is it not logical that one of these other clubs may be antrim senior champions very soon. I remember St Galls dominating u21 and minor and it was with the group of players that have now won 10/11 senior championships. y is it not realistic that someone might knock them off the top of the tree.
(just to be clear I'm not from Lamh Dhearg )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 22, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
You get 2/3 players from minor capable of playing senior every year and you are doing well. There is a massive difference between a good minor and a good senior. The good minors coming through st galls may not be as many as some clubs but those minors are getting plenty of experience and broke in well by those players who have plenty of mileage on the clocks. Can the good minors in other clubs be sure of the same? . Ummm. Time will tell I guess but no panic in milltown just yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2012, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 22, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
i never said St Malachys would beat Tempo i said Lamh Dhearg would and i may also point out that Lamh Dhearg minors that won ulster dont reach u21 until next year. I haven't heard any talk of St Galls minors or u21s competing strongly for a few years now in fact the talk is that at last weeks minor football league final which St Johns won easily the St Galls minor management left the field before the match ended using the excuse he had to go to senior training. could the lack of underage success and i mean u16-minor within St Galls be leading to other teams hoping they could finally win a senior championship, St Galls players have a lot of miles on their clocks and they haven't got the replacements coming through. St Galls have had a run in antrim that will never be replicated in our time but all good things must come to an end.

So are you saying that underage success means senior championship? St Johns have been winning a fair amount of underage championships Lamhs have had one good team lately and you actually think they will bring senior success? The good Lamhs players are the age of the lads from Naomh Gall.

If St Johns played to win matches instead of trying to take players heads of during the match then they might also have a chance. Here's the thing about the lads down Milltown Row, born winners and they will blatter away till their mid thirties without a thought of packing it in.

I hope we keep going for a while yet as I know that there is a serious drive at producing another batch of winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
Your man behind the Antrim GAA twitter account - is he a young lad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 22, 2012, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 22, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
Your man behind the Antrim GAA twitter account - is he a young lad?

The official Club Aontroma one ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2012, 10:35:07 PM
Sorry - my fault - I was reading the @GAAAntrim account and couldn't believe they'd sanction that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 22, 2012, 11:51:42 PM
Quote from: manballandall on November 22, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
You get 2/3 players from minor capable of playing senior every year and you are doing well. There is a massive difference between a good minor and a good senior. The good minors coming through st galls may not be as many as some clubs but those minors are getting plenty of experience and broke in well by those players who have plenty of mileage on the clocks. Can the good minors in other clubs be sure of the same? . Ummm. Time will tell I guess but no panic in milltown just yet

What good minors? Our minor team scored 3 points v Monaghan, not scorin In second half.

Awful standard.

Galls won about six u21 titles in a row. Yes those players are nearin 30 but they've 5 yrs left. They were caught by kilcoo by a lucky goal and in game in which they'd enough chances to win three.

The underage teams comin through at other teams don't excite me like gall's teams did
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 23, 2012, 07:57:27 AM
No, galls reign has finished. Get your money on lambs to win ulster next year :). A great film springs to mind. Silence of the lambs:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 23, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
Why do St Galls supporters seem to thing its only Lamh Dhearg players/supporters that think their club could win the senior championship. I think their are quite a few clubs that would like to see St Galls beaten in the championship not just because its St Galls but just to see another club break through. Lamh Dhearg, St Johns, Cargin, and Creggan all play championship football with real ambitions to win. If they didn't then y would they put all that hard work in. St Galls are a great team but not unbeatable they could have an off day like last Sunday. Just because they believe they could win a championship doesn't mean they should be lambasted for it. Just remember 1 thing the mighty St Mals are starting pre season next week so i think St Galls need to keep one eye one the men from the Ormeau Road. We did take their scalp last year !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
Going on last season alone, do you think that those teams you mentioned put in a lot of work? Wanting us beat for the good of the championship is silly talk. At the minute if we were beat by having an off day against Lamhs how would that be better for Antrim football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 24, 2012, 03:26:22 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 23, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
Why do St Galls supporters seem to thing its only Lamh Dhearg players/supporters that think their club could win the senior championship. I think their are quite a few clubs that would like to see St Galls beaten in the championship not just because its St Galls but just to see another club break through. Lamh Dhearg, St Johns, Cargin, and Creggan all play championship football with real ambitions to win. If they didn't then y would they put all that hard work in. St Galls are a great team but not unbeatable they could have an off day like last Sunday. Just because they believe they could win a championship doesn't mean they should be lambasted for it. Just remember 1 thing the mighty St Mals are starting pre season next week so i think St Galls need to keep one eye one the men from the Ormeau Road. We did take their scalp last year !!!!!!!!!

What's the story with st mals? Do you have underage teams etc? Are the people there not all far more into soccer/Celtic /man u? Genuine question.

Are there many Gaels there who drive the club on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 25, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
What's the story with st mals? Do you have underage teams etc? Are the people there not all far more into soccer/Celtic /man u? Genuine question.
Are there many Gaels there who drive the club on?

Yes we do have a lot of competition from soccer and other sports but we always try to promote Gaelic Games within our community, we have a number of people driving our club and they are dedicated to improving St Malachys all the time. Hopefully with the development of cherryvale we will finally secure a pitch and grow our links within the local schools and push on with our clubs development. We have a few underage teams who are competing very well at the minute so the future is looking good. St Malachys will be around for along time you can be sure of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 25, 2012, 09:35:05 PM
Fair play. Yous must face stiff competition from bredagh with them being based at cherryvale?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 26, 2012, 11:08:25 AM
I would imagine the way Galls went out against Kilcoo will have left a sour taste amongst those players! Good luck to any team standing in the way that reconditioned machine next year. I suggest they will be more ruthless than ever!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 25, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
I watched them play in the championship this year where they were well beaten by a good Davitts team. Would like to see wee Sheamy do well with them. They had a fair bit of support there too.

I remember we played them in South Antrim football about 10 years ago. One of their players had a go at Chris Hamill and just as the two of them were about to go toe to toe another one of their players ran in, grabbed his team mate telling him to wise up. The first fella tells him to fcuk up and next thing the two St. Malachy's men started knocking the fcuk out of one another with Chris Hamill trying to break it up. Was funny as fcuk.

I also had a funny moment playing St Mal's, one of our players (I believe he's a poster on here) was playing FF at our pitch, he tried to tackle the FB from st Mal's (think he was a country lad who was a decent boxer) when from nowhere your man give our lad the old one two boom!! The Naomh Gall player hit the deck and the referee seen nowt and neither did our player!! Still laugh about it when I see him  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2012, 11:27:14 PM
Our reserves (Casements) played against them up in Cherryvale in div 4 the year before last and I was pleasantly surprised that they had cleaned their act up a good bit. No oul nonsense at all and it was a competitive enough match that ended in a draw. And they had a few really handy players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on December 10, 2012, 12:38:52 PM
So next year reserve games and senior games will be played on the same day as a double header;

"The CCC is to endeavour to play Senior and 2nd team games as double headers on as many occasions as possible throughout the All County Football leagues."

Does anyone know how or if this will affect the leagues? Will 2nd teams still be in the same league system where they play other reserve teams as well as senior teams or will the reserve teams just play the reserve team of whatever team their seniors are playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
James Loughery has declared himself unavailable for Antrim next year, moving to Cork, huge blow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 11, 2012, 12:24:07 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
James Loughery has declared himself unavailable for Antrim next year, moving to Cork, huge blow.

Massive blow for county and his club.

Been decades since we've had a player good enough to start every game for Ulster. Only 25 too, with his best, peak years just about to kick in.

Cork wont be long using him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
We'll see how good he is.Bet you he won't even make the Cork panel.Heard all these stories before about players  "who could grace any team in Ireland" but when they move they never are heard from again .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 11, 2012, 01:15:58 PM
Massive loss for Antrim,great player but wish him well and would think Cork will soon use his talent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on December 11, 2012, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
We'll see how good he is.Bet you he won't even make the Cork panel.Heard all these stories before about players  "who could grace any team in Ireland" but when they move they never are heard from again .

Would you catch a decent amount of Cork football in Loughgiel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wild Guess on December 11, 2012, 03:27:08 PM
I had heard about this a few months ago, surprised its only common knowledge now. The cousin from Cork says his piece is from the city so naturally talk of Nemo. I'd imagine he'll be wearing the red geansai sooner than later.

Kelly, Gallagher now Loughrey, anyone out there actually want to play for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on December 11, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: stibhan on December 11, 2012, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
We'll see how good he is.Bet you he won't even make the Cork panel.Heard all these stories before about players  "who could grace any team in Ireland" but when they move they never are heard from again .

Would you catch a decent amount of Cork football in Loughgiel?

Judging by Castlehaven and Duhallow he's better than most!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 03:39:03 PM
Stibhan......Loughgiel or not,I have watched Cork,Kerry and all the big ones. Not many players have changed county and been a success.Padden from Mayo to Armagh,Johnson from Cavan to Kildare are two examples.I'll admit Loughrey's a good player,but I'd say Cork have plenty of players just as good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on December 11, 2012, 04:04:07 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 03:39:03 PM


I stopped reading after you said 'all the big ones'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 11, 2012, 04:25:53 PM
Johnston has been there one year and Padden wasn't a great Mayo player never mind making it somewhere else. Shay Fahy and Larry Tompkins spring to mind.

Is he moving for work? I would hardly think he's moving to Cork purely for football.

Big loss to the county but absolutely massive loss to St Brigids.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wild Guess on December 11, 2012, 04:40:50 PM
Moving to shack up with the missus out of wedlock in the rebel city. I'd say the club will be fine, just dip back into the transfer market. County on the other hand... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 05:06:55 PM
stibhan........" all the big ones " does not include Antrim,we're more in the minnow level. So read away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 11, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 11, 2012, 12:24:07 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
James Loughery has declared himself unavailable for Antrim next year, moving to Cork, huge blow.

Massive blow for county and his club.

Been decades since we've had a player good enough to start every game for Ulster. Only 25 too, with his best, peak years just about to kick in.

Cork wont be long using him.
He's 27.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 11, 2012, 10:34:16 PM
He's 26.

Who cares FFS? Fair play to the lad, good footballer and will be an asset to any club team in Cork.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 11, 2012, 11:13:42 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
We'll see how good he is.Bet you he won't even make the Cork panel.Heard all these stories before about players  "who could grace any team in Ireland" but when they move they never are heard from again .

If so certain what odds would you give? If he is playing club football and is committing he will be in Cork panel.

He is a cut above the rest in Antrim at minute. If it was "one of the big ones" earth would be moved to get him and the missis jobs in Belfast.

This is a big blow for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2012, 09:16:42 AM
There's no more quality in him than there is in MIchael McCann Glensman. Both top quality players.

Cork HB line is O'Leary, Canty and Kissane isn't it? I've never overly rated Kissane and don't see any reason why he wouldn't be any better than O'Leary either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 12, 2012, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2012, 09:16:42 AM
There's no more quality in him than there is in MIchael McCann Glensman. Both top quality players.

Cork HB line is O'Leary, Canty and Kissane isn't it? I've never overly rated Kissane and don't see any reason why he wouldn't be any better than O'Leary either.

Agree that both are top notch.

I look at life in a simple enough way. If Loughrey marked McCann he would nullify him. If McCann marked Loughrey he couldn't. Appreciate McCann's (a) high catching and (b) shooting would slight be above Loughrey's but would counter that with:
(a) high catching (Loughrey does not really get involved in this in midfield as much but has good hands); and
(b) shooting (Loughrey (even from half back when playing there) gets himself in more shooting positions and has more chances than McCann.
Would be interested to see what both have scored over the last 4/5 years.

Anyway, one thing is for sure we need the both of them and hopefully there are a few twists and turns to this and somehow Loughrey will wearing Saffron next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on December 12, 2012, 05:37:05 PM
I can see a whole lot more people moving to other counties after they released that minging top.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2012, 06:07:32 PM
My view Glensman would be Loughrey is a superb athlete and a good footballer. McCann would be a better footballer ability wise but wouldn't be the same level of athlete. Kick passing and catching would be much superior though. They're just different kinds of footballer who are hard to compare.

Not good about Loughrey but c'est la vie. Maybe if Kelly chose to play that'd help. Dunno if he's decided or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 13, 2012, 12:38:05 PM
New Antrim top - dont really care what it looks like, more interested in how players wearing it represent county!

https://twitter.com/ClubAontroma

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 13, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
Talking with a few lads on the County Senior panel, all very positive about new management, training going very well and the new S&C coach is a bit hit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on December 13, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 13, 2012, 01:00:56 PM
Talking with a few lads on the County Senior panel, all very positive about new management, training going very well and the new S&C coach is a bit hit.

Who is he ? Dawsy always a good trainer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 13, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
cant remember his name, he was with with Irish Cricket team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 18, 2012, 08:34:11 PM
McKenna cup panel is on county website, some new faces good to see!
Be interesting to see how they all fair.

Who from Antrim will be involved with uni's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 18, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Aontroim
2013 Mc Kenna Cup Panel




1   Kevin O Boyle Clann na hEireann
2   James Lavery   Clann na hEireann
3   Justin Crozier   Clann na hEireann
4   Tony Scullion   Clann na hEireann
5   John Carron   Clann na hEireann
6   Michael Mc Cann   Clann na hEireann
7   Kieran Close   Clann na hEireann
8   Brendan Herron   Lamh Dhearg
9   John Finucane   Lamh Dhearg
10   Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
11   Conor Murray   Lamh Dhearg
12   Paddy Cunningham   Lamh Dhearg
13   Richard Johnson   Ciceam Creagan
14   Martin Johnson   Ciceam Creagan
15   Dermott Mc Cann Ciceam Creagan
16   Chris Kerr   Naomh Gall
17   Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
18   Michael Pollock   Naomh Gall
19   Nial Delargy   Mhic Asmaint
20   Dermott Mc Aleese   Mhic Asmaint
21   Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
22   Colm Fleming   Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
23 Sean Mc Veigh   Naomh Uile
24   Paul Doherty   Ros Earcain
25   Liam Carland   Naomh Pol
26   Conal Kelly   Naomh Eoin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on December 18, 2012, 08:48:39 PM
Please tell me there's a lot more quality to come onto that panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2012, 10:29:13 PM
Quote from: manballandall on December 18, 2012, 08:48:39 PM
Please tell me there's a lot more quality to come onto that panel?

Yes after tomorrow's 5 a-side we'll be ready for the team!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 19, 2012, 11:20:33 AM
Was Finucane on the panel during the championship last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on December 19, 2012, 01:56:05 PM
No, The keepers on last year panel were Kerr and McSorley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 19, 2012, 06:24:29 PM
From this years championship games, Gavin o neill from aghagallon was the one goalkeeper who stood out a mile for me.

Surprised he never got a call up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2013, 09:58:31 AM
A new era begins today - lets get behind them from the start.

Would take any kind of win today. Students usually a bit more advanced at this time of the year fitness wise, so nothing easy about this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 06, 2013, 07:22:25 PM
What was starting team? Anyone make game? I was away so missed it. Anyone play well, stand out? any new players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 06, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 06, 2013, 07:22:25 PM
What was starting team? Anyone make game? I was away so missed it. Anyone play well, stand out? any new players?

Was at it. Comfortable without setting world on fire but more to come in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 07, 2013, 08:34:12 AM
Kerr - no chance for both goals, kickouts were first class especially 2nd half- 7
o boyle- scored 1-1 and tough tackling man marker - 8.5
mc veigh- solid display and scored a point on his return to saffron colours - 8
lavery- played out of position, his man scored both goals - 5
scullion- up and down the line some great runs and balls into forward line - 7.5
crozier- decent in dribs and drabs, 6.5
delargy- not a bad debut, still a young lad, tried very hard. 7
michael mc cann- wasnt his normal self, maybe not fit at this stage, a few good catches and scores. 7
doherty- great shift, up and down, worked his socks off. unlucky for first goal. 7
murray- great take in 2nd half and powerful direct running caused problems 7.5
niblock- on the ball plenty, all over the pitch, worked his socks off some nice scores and assists direct running and strength are incredible. 8
b.herron had a great game and my man of the match, won a lot of kickouts and a few good scores great to have him back.
cunningham. not great from play but ever reliable from his frees. 6
pollock. few hefty challenges on the st galls player, wins alot of ball laying off to runners, could be a great find from dawson with his pace. 7.5
close- few decent scores, showed well. 7

All in all it was a decent performance for the start of jan, have to start somewhere. Two big games coming up in the next 10 days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 11, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Antrim Team v Tyrone 13th Jan 2013

1   Chris Kerr   Naomh Gall
2   Kevin O Boyle Clann na hEireann
3   Paul Doherty   Ros Earcain
4   Sean Finch   Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
5   Tony Scullion   Clann na hEireann
6   Dermott Mc Cann   Ciceam Creagan
7   Justin Crozier    Clann na hEireann
8   Sean Mc Veigh   Naomh Uile
9   John Carron   Clann na hEireann
10   Conor Murray   Lamh Dhearg
11   Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
12   Colm Fleming   Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
13   Michael Mc Cann   Clann na hEireann
14   Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
15   Michael Pollock   Naomh Gall
16   Benny Marron   Naomh Eargnaid
17   Nial Delargy   Mhic Asmaint
18   James Lavery   Clann na hEireann
19   Conal Kelly   Naomh Eoin
20   Brendan Herron   Lamh Dhearg
21   Dermott Mc Aleese   Mhic Asmaint
22   Paddy Cunningham   Lamh Dhearg
23   Kieran Close   Clann na hEireann
24   Ryan Murray   Lamh Dhearg
25   Peter Mc Nicholl   Naomh Uile
26   Paddy Kelly Mhic Asmaint
27   Fergal Johnson   Clann na hEireann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 11, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Some interesting inclusions and positional choices by Dawson!

Be interesting to see how the fair against Tyrone.

Heard a wee whimper that a few pounds have become available to county!
Watch this space!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 14, 2013, 11:14:46 AM
Came away from the game yesterday disappointed, as i felt the lads put in a more than decent shift. we are lacking a natural out and out finisher and 3 come to mind aren't in the panel Brian neeson, Karl stewart and whether people like it or not its cj mc gourty, these boys are dynamite inside when they get a chance and every year its our shooting that costs us. Only for the heroics of Captain Kevin o Boyle and keeper Chris Kerr we would have been beat by 15 points at least, the lad finch tried hard but wasn't anywhere near that young lad MC curry. MC veigh and Carron done well in midfield from kickouts but tracking their men was an issue as Kane scored 2-3 points and caving could have had a few goals. up front we offered nothing to be honest, pollock seemed to be playing as a 3rd midfielder which was rather strange as he is one of the quickest inside forwards in antrim. MC canny was isolated and i feel he is more effective in the middle, Michael hereon didn't offer much. i hope the lads can knuckle down and pull off a performance on Wednesday night against a Derry side who dismantled UK on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2013, 01:39:58 PM
A hard game to evaluate. The positives were Kerr and Kobo who look the part. (Kobo saved two goalbound efforts on the line). Mc Veigh battled all day in midfield, and will get fitter as the year progresses. A reminder of how important Niblock is to the team. We went toe to toe for large periods, but lost our way without the physical presence and battling qualities that Nibs brings to the team.

Our management will take the positives and will also be aware of a few things being tried out that didnt go so well. Its mid -January and the time to try things out, look at a few players  etc.

I saw enough to know that we will be competitive in division three and a good run there should leave us pitched nicely for the match that matters most - Monaghan.






   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 14, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on January 14, 2013, 11:14:46 AM
Came away from the game yesterday disappointed, as i felt the lads put in a more than decent shift. we are lacking a natural out and out finisher and 3 come to mind aren't in the panel Brian neeson, Karl stewart and whether people like it or not its cj mc gourty, these boys are dynamite inside when they get a chance and every year its our shooting that costs us. Only for the heroics of Captain Kevin o Boyle and keeper Chris Kerr we would have been beat by 15 points at least, the lad finch tried hard but wasn't anywhere near that young lad MC curry. MC veigh and Carron done well in midfield from kickouts but tracking their men was an issue as Kane scored 2-3 points and caving could have had a few goals. up front we offered nothing to be honest, pollock seemed to be playing as a 3rd midfielder which was rather strange as he is one of the quickest inside forwards in antrim. MC canny was isolated and i feel he is more effective in the middle, Michael hereon didn't offer much. i hope the lads can knuckle down and pull off a performance on Wednesday night against a Derry side who dismantled UK on Saturday night.

Wait til the flag protesters hear this!!

Seriously Simon & bannside, thanks for your analysis.  Seems like there's a fair amount of work to be done??  What happened to Neeson?  Was he not touted as a good propsect last year??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 14, 2013, 05:48:29 PM
I see bannside where you are coming from about niblocks battling qualities but in my eyes at times he slows the play down, he's great at winning the ball but I'd want men running off him and quick passes.  Kerr made 2 great saves but he also made a few mistakes as well, has a great kick and shot stopping ability though, no doubt.  Antrims forward issues to me are not all about the talent there, there is a serious issue in forward play, either too much space or no space in front of full forward line.  Wing 3/4 men have no real purpose in my eyes.  If they can sort how they want the 3/4 line to function the full forward line will benefit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2013, 07:26:33 PM
Welcome onboard Dreen and fair comment too.

I`d say the new management team will want to look at a few options before they decide how best to utilise their strengths. Obviously Mick and Micko were put into the FF line to add some physical presence and the third Michael (Pollock) dropping back deep to make some space and act as playmaker. At least that looked like the plan, and all these things need to be looked at in a match situation. If we are going for big physical ball winners in there, there will also be yet other Michael (Magill) to consider and possibly Mark Dougan if he gets his knee problem sorted.

If we are going for quick nippy forwards then I still think Ciaran Close has a lot to offer and I liked the shapes Ryan Murray was making when introduced yesterday. A natural scoring forward who like Ciaran will benefit from the top of the ground. Depends really on the tactics and horses for courses etc.

Overall theres plenty of talent on the panel and with a few established players (Tomas, Andy, Conall Kelly etc) still to feature I think FD will have plenty of selection headaches ahead.  Good problem to have though!

Forgot to mention Conor Murray yesterday. Turning into a class act. For me him and Mark Sweeney were a real breath of fresh air last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 15, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
The stand out players for me were O Boyle, Mc Veigh and Kerr they looked the part, mc veigh didnt let cavanagh settle and done a solid job on him. o Boyle didnt give that lad mcaliskey a sniff and they are expecting big things from that boy hassled him and tackled him hard but fair, kerr made 3 or 4 tremendous saves (even after his own terrible pass) he recovered well and great kickouts throughout the game. murray has turned into a super player also, anyone heading to the game tomorrow night able to provide updates?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2013, 12:01:10 AM
Just back from a rollercoaster of a ride up in Celtic Pk and dont really know where to start.

I suppose if someone had offered us a draw before the game we would all have taken that. But I have to say I am home with a real mixed bag of emotions. First emotion - angry and frustrated.

This is a game we should have won, but didnt. Forget the opposition, this was 15 v 15 and we had the game in the bag and let it slip. What makes it worse for me is that I really cant ever remember us beating Derry anywhere anytime, and tonight we went so close to breaking that mould. But we didnt.

We were a remarkable seven points up with 20 minutes left, and in control of the game, but ended up with Derry supporters cheering loudest at the finish. Frustrating because we should have been out of sight, but scuffed a couple of gilt edge chances at the end to put the game to bed - one in particular a simple tap over at the death. Derry sensed we couldnt close the game out, and got the equaliser to punish us right at the end. So the long wait continues.......

The other emotion is pride that we went toe to toe with our biggest rivals in their own backyard and although in a condescending way they might point out it was only the Mc Kenna cup, make no mistake about it Derry had to pull out all the ammunition they could muster to level the game. Tonight we battled with them all over the pitch and obtained a moral victory of sorts - but though I try to put a positive spin on this, to be honest I am angry that we couldnt finish off the job.

Tomorrow, when I settle down a bit I will mention some of the good stuff that went on and a few players in particular were outstanding. Overall its been a good Mc Kenna cup, and I like the start that FD and co have made to their tenure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 17, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 17, 2013, 12:01:10 AM
Just back from a rollercoaster of a ride up in Celtic Pk and dont really know where to start.

I suppose if someone had offered us a draw before the game we would all have taken that. But I have to say I am home with a real mixed bag of emotions. First emotion - angry and frustrated.

This is a game we should have won, but didnt. Forget the opposition, this was 15 v 15 and we had the game in the bag and let it slip. What makes it worse for me is that I really cant ever remember us beating Derry anywhere anytime, and tonight we went so close to breaking that mould. But we didnt.
We were a remarkable seven points up with 20 minutes left, and in control of the game, but ended up with Derry supporters cheering loudest at the finish. Frustrating because we should have been out of sight, but scuffed a couple of gilt edge chances at the end to put the game to bed - one in particular a simple tap over at the death. Derry sensed we couldnt close the game out, and got the equaliser to punish us right at the end. So the long wait continues.......

The other emotion is pride that we went toe to toe with our biggest rivals in their own backyard and although in a condescending way they might point out it was only the Mc Kenna cup, make no mistake about it Derry had to pull out all the ammunition they could muster to level the game. Tonight we battled with them all over the pitch and obtained a moral victory of sorts - but though I try to put a positive spin on this, to be honest I am angry that we couldnt finish off the job.

Tomorrow, when I settle down a bit I will mention some of the good stuff that went on and a few players in particular were outstanding. Overall its been a good Mc Kenna cup, and I like the start that FD and co have made to their tenure.

17 January 2010
McKenna Cup Casement Park
Antrim 3-7 Derry 0-15

Still, it must have been a frustrating watch bannside.  Reports say Antrim were 1-10 to 0-5 up at one stage?  Who did well for us??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 17, 2013, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: AQMP on January 17, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 17, 2013, 12:01:10 AM
Just back from a rollercoaster of a ride up in Celtic Pk and dont really know where to start.

I suppose if someone had offered us a draw before the game we would all have taken that. But I have to say I am home with a real mixed bag of emotions. First emotion - angry and frustrated.

This is a game we should have won, but didnt. Forget the opposition, this was 15 v 15 and we had the game in the bag and let it slip. What makes it worse for me is that I really cant ever remember us beating Derry anywhere anytime, and tonight we went so close to breaking that mould. But we didnt.
We were a remarkable seven points up with 20 minutes left, and in control of the game, but ended up with Derry supporters cheering loudest at the finish. Frustrating because we should have been out of sight, but scuffed a couple of gilt edge chances at the end to put the game to bed - one in particular a simple tap over at the death. Derry sensed we couldnt close the game out, and got the equaliser to punish us right at the end. So the long wait continues.......

The other emotion is pride that we went toe to toe with our biggest rivals in their own backyard and although in a condescending way they might point out it was only the Mc Kenna cup, make no mistake about it Derry had to pull out all the ammunition they could muster to level the game. Tonight we battled with them all over the pitch and obtained a moral victory of sorts - but though I try to put a positive spin on this, to be honest I am angry that we couldnt finish off the job.

Tomorrow, when I settle down a bit I will mention some of the good stuff that went on and a few players in particular were outstanding. Overall its been a good Mc Kenna cup, and I like the start that FD and co have made to their tenure.

17 January 2010
McKenna Cup Casement Park
Antrim 3-7 Derry 0-15

Still, it must have been a frustrating watch bannside.  Reports say Antrim were 1-10 to 0-5 up at one stage?  Who did well for us??

That would have been some trick considering the final score?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2013, 09:44:02 AM
That final score is from 2010.

Last night 1-13 each...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on January 17, 2013, 10:09:12 AM
Wasn't able to make the game, although seems positive that we scored 1.08 without reply at one stage. Frustrating not to close it out obviously but seems like there's some positive signs for the league at least. Who were the good and bad for us Bannside? Think we have found any players for the league and any stabs at a first 15 for the Cavan game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2013, 10:32:34 AM
Forgot about that win. I suppose theres no point in being stupid if I dont show it now and again! Remember it now - Skinner dropped two or three frees into our keepers hands and we held on!

Back to last nights match and there were lots of positives. The main one was undoubtedly that we put 1-08 past Derry without reply in a glorious spell each side of the break. For half an hour Derry couldnt score against us, and we were rampant all over the pitch. I dont think we should call the result a collapse, as much as that we had our spell of dominance, and Derry were always going to have their spell too.

I loved the way we were winning a lot of the key duals, and that we kept coming back to create a few chances to win the game, even at the end when Derry were on top, we were still trying to push on and get across the line. It wasnt just backs to the wall, our men kept going to the end and really wanted to get the win.

Our style is much more about getting scores on the board than the cautious defensive style that was so hard to watch in recent years. Theres a confidence that the new management are spreading that we are a good football team and the ball is definitely moving quicker  and much more direct. At least thats whats coming across!

Derry have punished a lot of teams particularly at fortress Celtic Park, but couldnt get away from us at any stage. For me thats the biggest positive. Ive been hearing about the savage tackling drills that Brian Mc Iver has been doing, but we were turning them over with regularity, and forcing them to play backwards and laterally. Lots to like about that too.

The emergence of Sean Mc Veigh as the bulwark of the side is a huge positive as well. He won the midfield battle against us in Ruislip, and is now providing a real physical presence for us at midfield, and surging runs deep into opposition territory. Wont ever shirk a battle either, and gave Sean Cavanagh his fill on Sunday and was definitely the top midfielder on view last night. (And trust me PJ Mc Cluskey is a class act too - I managed him for a year and he is some fielder of a ball). Mc Veigh goes straight and not across the field slowing things down.

I`m starting to get really excited about a 19 year old who I think can be the real deal for us. Ryan Murray gets into the right spaces and can take his defender on and knows where the posts are. Thats another huge positive for Antrim football. He could be anything. Plus the Herron brothers do give us an added physical dimension too, both having good games last night.

There were a few negatives. Niblock had to come off hobbling badly and we know how crucial he is. Also, I can see another very established player who seems to be completely out of sorts, but has time to get the confidence sorted as its only January.

But overall we go into the NFL with good hopes.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2013, 10:41:19 AM
Thanks Bannside.

How does Doherty do in the full back line? Having read his interview in the IN about a month ago he seemed keen to get a midfield berth. Is he good at FB or is he a stop gap until McLean gets fit?

I played against McVeigh years ago and have seen him a good few times before London. I saw him against Irvinestown for Ballymena last year and he looked a cracker though obviously a much higher standard there. He must have done some bulking up in London.

It'll be interesting to see who his partner is later in the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 17, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
Cheers bannside.  I've heard good things about Ryan Murray from up home too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2013, 11:32:53 AM
Paul Doc had a solid game on James Kielt. He maybe could have used possession a little bit better a time or two, but as a full back he has presence, good hands and will make Andy work hard for the jersey. Its probably been a while since he has played there, so it will take a game or two, and we can expect a bit of rustiness here or there. Great to have him back in the panel.

I really dont know who our midfield will be. Mc Veigh would be my guess, and probably Mick but let them all fight it out for the priviledge. Should start a bring home Niall Mc Keever campaign too. Think of the ball he would get his hands on now that he is nearing his prime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2013, 11:50:13 AM
Well McCann should be a given somewhere.

I still worry about the lack of a presence in full forward. I think Micky Herron is more a half forward as is Brendan and McCann is a midfielder really.

Hopefully Magill can get fit and stay fit giving us an option there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
With all these Lamhs players doing well on the County team they could push hard for County honours this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2013, 02:08:30 PM
When you think of some of the great games Michael has had in recent years I can see how you think he is a given ITG. I cant see a teamsheet without his name on it somewhere, but not all managers see the same thing or want the same thing.

He has looked a bit frustrated recently, and had his head in his hands again several times last night, talking to the referee etc. Its obvious he`s not happy with something, but class rises and Mick will too. When he is on top of his game he is class to watch, but its good to see others stepping up into the leadership mantle too, and that can only be good for Antrim football.

MR2, no doubt the Lamhs have enough firepower now to be a major threat, and their new 4G pitch means they can go full pelt in training all the year round. Between the County senior & U-21 panel there must be at least a dozen Lamhs involved!! Must count for something!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 17, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
County Antrim Post has a short video of the Derry game on Fbook. Who was the eejit who tried to volley the ball into the Derry net and fell on his backside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 17, 2013, 06:09:11 PM
Aye I'll be having a wee wager on the lambs this year. Can't keep class down for too long. However, and no offence intended, micko is and never will be a county footballer. He wouldn't get on our club team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
I know that a discussion forum is all about opinions but the downside of them is that anonymous people get a free crack at running others down. I know I have too in the past, but it is cheap when you think of it.

Micko was probably the best player of his age group and was county minor football captain in his time.. I recall him being stand out in a few games and many taking part in those games have gone on to become household names. I think a few months concentrating again on the big ball will bring his game on again and he should go close to a jersey later in the year.

I think that with Paul Doc, Micko and Sean Mc Veigh all back in (same year group too 1985) and Brendan herron too, we have added physicality to our game that has been missing in the past.

Not saying they will all start come c`ship, but great to have them all back in the mix!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 18, 2013, 12:19:55 AM
Links to highlights of Antrim's McKenna cup games? Didn't make the Derry one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2013, 01:10:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iablOpueDLk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 18, 2013, 02:50:57 PM
A free crack. My opinion doesn't agree with yours son its a cheap shot? . I don't rate him as a footballer from what I have seen him playing the past few years. Apologies to all for stating my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 18, 2013, 02:50:57 PM
A free crack. My opinion doesn't agree with yours son its a cheap shot? . I don't rate him as a footballer from what I have seen him playing the past few years. Apologies to all for stating my opinion.

Can't see anything wrong with MAB stating his opinion and i wouldn't call it a cheap shot as he wasn't insulting or defamatory towards Micko just said his opinion. I don't agree with MAB's opinion of Micko, but have to say he has underachieved since showing great promise as an underage player.   
Ulster League fixtures out today, not many Antrim clubs took up the invite. We have a bit of a trek away in the first game to Malin, not looking forward to that, but i will be delighted to see senior football back at Dreen this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 18, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 18, 2013, 01:10:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iablOpueDLk

Cheers.

Have seen a couple of CAP montages. Are they not allowed to show the goals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 19, 2013, 10:59:38 AM
Bit of afters in Celtic Park the other night. GOK has a very sore jaw!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 19, 2013, 02:50:16 PM
Leaving us hanging there RG. Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 19, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
Jc put some manners into the glenullin man after the game. Gok spouting at him and jc put him down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 19, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
JC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
Jesus Christ
Justin Crozier
JC - Ex Cargin manager who is on Dawsy's backroom teamJoe Cahill
Jim Connolly

My money is on that one  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
Jesus Christ
Justin Crozier
JC - Ex Cargin manager who is on Dawsy's backroom teamJoe Cahill
Jim Connolly

My money is on that one  ;D
knowing the man like I do, highly unlikely.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2013, 09:29:03 PM
Is there not a john carron on the team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 21, 2013, 09:13:39 AM
 JC from Cargin, current half back. Bit of a dig on him during them game and it lead to a confrontation after the match that ended badly for the Glenullin player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 21, 2013, 09:21:54 AM
Rasharkin Gael
Wouldnt be the entire story there I feel. And how do you mean ended badly.
Getting the odd clip now and again isnt the end of the world. Did gok not get as good a dig at crozier?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on January 21, 2013, 01:52:40 PM
See on the Antrim website no St.Galls players attending trial games - is this the end of the road for this club regarding dominance of Antrim club football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on January 21, 2013, 02:11:35 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2013, 02:51:24 PM
Good question Deary Me.

The periods of dominance by one club or another comes and goes in cycles. This current period of St Galls dominance will come to an end at some stage but they should have enough history and tradition to remain competitive. 

I think the Antrim club football scene will be a lot more interesting in the latter half of this decade. I know from talking to good clubmen that know their stuff that many clubs clubs like the talent pools they have coming through, and during this era expect to be in the hunt for senior championships.

Apart from the big two at the minute, add Rossa, St Johns, Lamh Dhearg, St Endas, Creggan and personally I fully expect Portglenone to get back up in that bracket again. Looking like interesting times ahead!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
Unfortunately (I mean this from the competitive stakes) I don't think St Galls will be beaten for a number of years yet.

It will be interesting though when they do. St Johns have a lot coming through, Creggan have had some underage dominance and Lamh Dearg obviously won ulster then Rossa/St Endas won that under 16. Disappointed not to see GNM step it up as they had a period too.

None of that guarantees anything but at least it means there should be some players to work with in those clubs.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2013, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
Unfortunately (I mean this from the competitive stakes) I don't think St Galls will be beaten for a number of years yet.

It will be interesting though when they do. St Johns have a lot coming through, Creggan have had some underage dominance and Lamh Dearg obviously won ulster then Rossa/St Endas won that under 16. Disappointed not to see GNM step it up as they had a period too.

None of that guarantees anything but at least it means there should be some players to work with in those clubs.

Will the standard drop or will the new winners be able to make an impression on the Ulster stage. When we won our first (in a few years) we managed to get to an Ulster final to be beaten by the The Loup (a game I thought we could have won) Previously there hasn't been too much success in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Hopefully the standard won't drop but you boys have set a high standard.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2013, 03:56:28 PM
St Galls run through Ulster each year was greatly helped by the fact that come October/November they are usually still fresh - not having had to break that much sweat to win Antrim.

Not taking this away from their achievements, but a lot of other county champions were getting tired or burnt out at that stage of the year - minus Cross who were also so dominant in Arnagh. Compare that to trying to get out of Down, Tyrone and particularly Derry, where up to half a dozen clubs were in the mix, and teams needed to be going flat out from May or June.

The fact that St Galls could play five a side soccer at training up until August and still breeze through Antrim was not their fault to be fair.

The upside is that in a few years, if we do get a much more open Antrim c`ship, and a more even spread of winners/finalists, this will greatly increase interest in our games across a broader spread and this can only be good for Antrim football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on January 22, 2013, 10:01:20 AM
I agree bannside that this Antrim club side are far from done with - its my understanding that last year they had lads playing without much game time, before Kilcoo i've been told there were some being held together with duck tape, and others who were sick!

Now i dont know if these things are true - but i would still maintain that if St.Galls have their best team on the pitch, firing on all cylinders (which is difficult as some miles on clock now), but if they get them 100% fit - they wont be touched!

Regarding my original post re-minor, i've since been told they do have a few minors but not sure where they feature at county level.
I know they have a few crackers who are now first year out of minor! So who knows - just thought it strange!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 22, 2013, 10:18:17 AM
Mark Cummings and young Burke good prospects alright Deary Me, but would need to be getting blooded in before its too late. The nucleus of the current side were up and at it before this stage.

Problem is with St Galls is who do you leave out. They came through as a tight unit and in most cases are still holding up. Its not as if two or three are starting to slow up, or lose their form, so the question for any St Galls manager is who do you leave off the team to blood in some newcomers.

The best of their younger crop is definitely Bradso - (Brendan Bradley). Would expect him to feature strongly with county u-21`s this year and he is a guy who could be in/around county senior panels too either this or next year. A natural corner forward too, which we arnt coming down with!

St Galls would need to be getting him game time this year too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2013, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2013, 10:18:17 AM
Mark Cummings and young Burke good prospects alright Deary Me, but would need to be getting blooded in before its too late. The nucleus of the current side were up and at it before this stage.

Problem is with St Galls is who do you leave out. They came through as a tight unit and in most cases are still holding up. Its not as if two or three are starting to slow up, or lose their form, so the question for any St Galls manager is who do you leave off the team to blood in some newcomers.

The best of their younger crop is definitely Bradso - (Brendan Bradley). Would expect him to feature strongly with county u-21`s this year and he is a guy who could be in/around county senior panels too either this or next year. A natural corner forward too, which we arnt coming down with!

St Galls would need to be getting him game time this year too.

Those lads were getting plenty game time last year, albeit at league games but would be the main prospects for the future, as you said most of the current players had all been on the senior side at that point, this was because the team was in a massive transition period and a new manager came in (MC) and more or less cleared the decks and went with primarily youth, though in fairness these lads had won minor and under 21 championships and won every thing through to minor also. Not a bad thing to have, If Lamhs and St Johns, Creggan are keen to push then maybe a clearing of the decks may be a course of action. Obviously we still had older players on the squad when it happened but in the main they were a youthfull side
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 22, 2013, 12:38:42 PM
Anyone care to guess the average age of the current team...might surprise you ?

If you get 2 newcomers every year challenging for spots then job done.....yound burkey played championship this year i believe? and played a lot of league games...young guys rae getting plenty of opportunities...niall o neil perfect example.

They wont be far away in the next few years again and if we continue to bleed a couple of years every year then i dont see how we wont be there or there abouts for a few years yet. Up to the rest to beat us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 22, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
Anto/Kel/CiaranMcGort 32
Kevin Mc Gort 31
Karl/Terry 30
Aidso 29
Andy/Nibs/Gribs/Kerrso 28
Pollock 27
Brady 26
Burke/CJ/Mark Kelly 25

Average age during season 2013 = 28.5  (Throw in Niall O Neill/Young Burke/Cummings/Bradso and average lessens to 27.2)

Safe to say they will still be a threat for a brave while yet!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 22, 2013, 02:06:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
Anto/Kel/CiaranMcGort 32
Kevin Mc Gort 31
Karl/Terry 30
Aidso 29
Andy/Nibs/Gribs/Kerrso 28
Pollock 27
Brady 26
Burke/CJ/Mark Kelly 25

Average age during season 2013 = 28.5  (Throw in Niall O Neill/Young Burke/Cummings/Bradso and average lessens to 27.2)

Safe to say they will still be a threat for a brave while yet!!

Anto 28/9
/Kel 30
/CiaranMcGort 31/2
Kevin Mc Gort 30/31
Karl/Terry 29
Aidso 29
Andy/Nibs/Gribs/Kerrso 27
Pollock 26
Brady 30
Burke/CJ/Mark Kelly 25


Still should have it sown up for next 3/4 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
Kieran McGourty must be over 35? Reminds me of Lombardo a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2013, 10:27:13 PM
He's max 33. Minor in 98 definitely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2013, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 22, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
Kieran McGourty must be over 35? Reminds me of Lombardo a bit.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/7/17/1279366392360/Attilio-Lombardo-during-h-006.jpg)

Course, he's the age of my wee bro, not Lombardo he's about 46 I'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 23, 2013, 10:36:49 AM
Kerr - 26/27
Niblock - 26/27
Pollock - 26/27
Andy- 26/27
Gribs - 26/27
Burkey/Mark kelly/Cj - 25?
Kevin McGourty - 29?
Aidso - 28
Anto/Terry- 29
Sean Kelly/Brady -30
Niall o neill/bradso/conor burke must be all around 19/20?

They arent going anywhere soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on January 24, 2013, 02:18:45 PM
Kieran is 31, 32 at the very most
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on January 25, 2013, 08:20:51 PM
WGAF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 26, 2013, 12:55:40 AM
Kieran was in last year minor when I was in my first and that was 1998, Kevin was still minor in 2000 but he was same school age as me, hed be hitting 31 anytime as would Brady if he's not already there, he wasn't on county minor in 99 but played colleges against him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 26, 2013, 09:00:57 AM
So he was in his last year minor in 98 but still minor 2 years later? Mc gourtys at their lark again. Couldn't watch them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on January 29, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
Any ideas of the starting line up for this Sundays opener against Cavan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stalwart on January 31, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
any word on league fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 01, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Antrim team to play Cavan on Sunday:

1.  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin) (c)
3.  Paul Doherty (Rasharkin)
4.  Niall Delargy (Portglenone)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  John Carron (Cargin)

8.  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9.  Sean McVeigh (Ballymena)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Kevin Niblock (St Gall's)
12.  Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)

13.  Michael Pollock (St Gall's)
14.  Michael Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
15.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)


I've heard good things from home about Niall Delargy.  Anyone seen him play??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2013, 12:25:31 PM
It wasn`t that long ago that Niall was marking Ryan Murray in an all - county U-16 final in Casement and the two of them spent half the match wrestling each other on the ground! Great to see them both get a call up for league duty and hopefully they both will give a good account.

There definitely seems to be real competition for places this year, maybe more so than I can ever remember, esp with a few established players back in the mix. No room for complacency or relying on past reputation. Great position for FD and augers well for a decent season.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 01, 2013, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 01, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Antrim team to play Cavan on Sunday:

1.  Chris Kerr (St Gall’s)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin) (c)
3.  Paul Doherty (Rasharkin)
4.  Niall Delargy (Portglenone)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  John Carron (Cargin)

8.  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9.  Sean McVeigh (Ballymena)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Kevin Niblock (St Gall’s)
12.  Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)

13.  Michael Pollock (St Gall’s)
14.  Michael Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
15.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)


I've heard good things from home about Niall Delargy.  Anyone seen him play??

the Last few games our stand out performers were captain kevin o boyle and kerr in goals, i hope this doesnt become a trend and some of the forwards can take the headlines. great to see niall delargy getting a game in corner back. the forward line has plenty of pace and power which can cause cavan problems hopefulli get us off to a winning start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 01, 2013, 06:12:29 PM
4 out of startung 6 forwards for the county are from the same club. And 4 defenders from the same but different club from the fwds . They'll make some county final in september. Mouth watering clash. Good luck to antrim and especially to the 3 representatives from the county champions of the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theticklemister on February 01, 2013, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 01, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Antrim team to play Cavan on Sunday:

1.  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin) (c)
3.  Paul Doherty (Rasharkin)
4.  Niall Delargy (Portglenone)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  John Carron (Cargin)

8.  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9.  Sean McVeigh (Ballymena)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Kevin Niblock (St Gall's)
12.  Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)

13.  Michael Pollock (St Gall's)
14.  Michael Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
15.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)


I've heard good things from home about Niall Delargy.  Anyone seen him play??

4 lamh dearg lads in the forward line; if ye add paddy cunningham ye would nearly a full set. Incidentally did I see Lamh dearg in the intermediate ulster league?? surly they are still senior or did they bank that they would be losing boys to the antrim county team that the ulster officials let them take part at the intermediate grade?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theticklemister on February 01, 2013, 09:43:32 PM
Lamh Dearg look like a club on the rise may I add. They came to our club to take part in our Brian Og sevens competition a few years ago and had a team of minors up. They wiped the floor with older players from senior and Intermediate clubs to raise the trophy. That might of been 2 /3 years ago. May I add, a fine bunch of lads too; very respectful and looked to breathe gaelic football. They seemed like a tight bunch. Hopefully they have all progressed to the senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 01, 2013, 10:56:45 PM
From the horses mouth... The only galls player he didn't get that he wanted was aidso gallagher. Take out of that what you like. I hope I am proved wrong and this team goes on to big things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 01, 2013, 11:43:45 PM
Injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 02, 2013, 12:12:06 AM
No they weren't asked to trials. Not wanted apparently. Listen, he has what he thinks is his strongest team and by all accounts the training has went well. What would I know so good luck to them, I hope they do well. Fwiw I think cavan will prove difficult this year, their good U21's coming to fruition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 03, 2013, 12:17:45 AM
Surprised at you believing what you read and making assumptions. Micko isn't playing hurling at the minute but is playing football so that argument is without substance. Your entitled to your opinion as I am mine.  I don't think 4 of the countys 6 best forwards come from that one club. Hopefully I will be proved wrong and will say so if I am
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2013, 12:44:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 03, 2013, 12:37:12 AM
What? Micko is playing football and therefore not hurling. My point is that Kieran and Karl have been among our most committed hurlers for years now but so far, through one reason or another cannot commit this year, therefore there is a good reason why they couldn't play football.

I am very surprised to hear that Frank Dawson, of all people, is anti-St Galls.

I am also still waiting on who you would have in/out.

The Lámh Dhearg men mightn't be the best in the county but;

There is an old proverb in Irish:

Caithfidh tu muin a dheanamh leis an bhod ata agat.

You have to piss with the dick you have.

Until Dawson finds more dicks, we'll just have to piss with these ones.

Remember this Hardstation, club men on this fourm or any other, are mainly only concered with their own club, Antrim's loss is Naomh Gall's gain (to a lot of our club men). The players that FD has are, as you say the only dicks he has to play with. I'll be backing them all the way. If our lads that are fit and not willing then they aren't up for the cause, they aren't the first and won't be the last from clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 03, 2013, 02:49:30 AM
HS you have taken this out of proportion. I wasn't gurning nor said that Dawson was anti st galls or that st galls were better than lambs. I was, am surprised that 4 out of 6 starting fwds come from the one club. Even apart from st galls they wouldn't all be in my starting 6. Again my opinion, which I am entitled to. Apologies if it doesn't agree with yours but cest la vie. We will leave it at that. Good night. See you at the match tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 03, 2013, 03:45:40 AM
No point in talking about all the St Galls men who could should or might have have been good enough to play for Antrim tomorrow. load of shit. if it means that much to some of them then make yourselves known to FD and get in there and try to earn a jersey and make the hard yards. Reputations count for fcuk all. show your desire or hunger or play away for Milltown or forever hold your piece/peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 03, 2013, 07:19:35 PM
Great start.  Apart from goals we did rightly. Sending off may hurt us as mcveigh is good

Mcveigh, McCann, pollock, kobo j crozier, herons, niblock and murrays were the pick-though all put in a shift.

Cavan haven't improved much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on February 03, 2013, 11:38:53 PM
surprised anyone would suggest we werent the best team today - I thought we were by far. In every area of the field we dominated - they got in for one sloppy goal and then bought a penalty.

We missed some chances and were too loose in passing at times, but...we cleaned them out at midfield, reduced their keeper(s) to hitting it out over the sideline, we had way more possession, we tackled strongly. The scoreline didn't reflect our superiority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2013, 06:24:25 PM
Great to get the two points because this should turn out to be a very competitive league. I wouldnt be raving too much about the performance, as everyone sitting near me agreed at half time that up to that point we had been very sluggish. Having said that we have all seen games like that where we are on the wrong side of the result.

Whatever FD said at HT though definitely did the trick as we played with much more freedom and fluency in the second half, going from three down to five up in the space of a good 20 minute spell. Sets us up nicely now for our perennial meeting with our modern rivals from Sligo.

Debutants did well and Ryan Murray could be the real deal. He and Mickey Pollock will relish top of the ground later in the year and both provide a great outlet. Thought Justin Crozier was outstanding throughout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 05, 2013, 09:44:36 AM
captain o boyle had a difficult task and was outstanding as was crozier and delargy for his debut was very good, kerr made a smart save at the beginning of the second half and targeted mc veigh, mc cann and b.herron with kickouts throughout the game, we got alot of joy out of them 3 from kickouts. The Evergreen tony scullion wasnt his normal self, john carron was found out a bit (in my humble opinion) and he is clearly not a wing back. doherty is much more effective out the field.
Mc cann and mc veigh battled brilliantly either catching or breaking smartly to our half forwards/half backs. brendan herron worked tirelessly around the middle, conor murray was great at coming off the shoulder and pegged a few good points.
Mickey Pollock and ryan murray were outstanding, they are constantly on the move and win the ball out in front and lay it off when taking their own man isnt on they scored 1-6 between them.

Any buses travelling to the game on sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 06, 2013, 11:09:34 AM
If the artists impressions of both ongoing projects are in any way accurate, then we have a lot to look forward to.

Dunsilly will be a very useful addition to the county in terms of a central location to prepare our county sides and develop our juveniles. The new look Casement looks superb (in the drawings) and no matter how many nostalgic memories anyone has of "Old Casey", our new modern stadium should inspire hundreds of children to want to wear their county colours in that environment.

Fair play to Dr John and all those who were involved in the instigation of both projects when to many what appeared as little more than an ambitious pipedream, could turn out to be a fantastic legacy to future generations.

Sometimes we are quick to point out the negatives, but there is some great work being done behind the scenes, and Colm Mc Kenna deserves some recognition too, as the driving force behind Club Aontroma, which is starting to settle into a very prominent role in making things happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 06, 2013, 01:02:46 PM
Lets not forget that there'll be a huge increase in overheads needed to look after a facility like this. Do we have the fanbase prepared to support it to the point where its sustainable (never mind suitable for our needs). I dont think we do although this could be a 'field of dreams' type project so I'll be happy to be proved wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2013, 01:10:56 PM
Also another highly paid official to manage the stadium etc Its a massive project but could also be a premier venue for concerts and that type of event so there is revenue generation potential there, but would hate to see a white elephant being developed simply because the 3 big sports couldnt get their act together over the maze (namely the IFA)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 06, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
Whats the story with ownership of the ground? Does anyone know if it is wholly owned by Antrim, or is it part owned by Ulster Council?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on February 07, 2013, 09:06:35 PM
I would strongly imagine that this stadium will host very few Antrim club fixtures with the investment going into it. The County Finals at a push, but sadly henceforth there's more chance of seeing Rihanna or Eminem there than a Junior Footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 08, 2013, 10:26:31 AM
Antrim team to play Sligo (again!) on Sunday.  Looks a bit Lamh Dhearg and Cargin heavy but good to see Tomas McCann and Michael Magill back in the fold.

1 John Finucane (Lamh Dhearg)
2 Kevin O Boyle (Cargin) (C)
3 Paul Doherty (Rasharkin)
4 Niall Delargy (Portglenone)
5 Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6 Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7 James Laverty (Cargin)
8 Michael McCann (Cargin)
9 John Carron (Cargin)
10 Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11 Kevin Niblock (St. Gall's)
12 Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
13 Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
14 Michael Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
15 Michael Pollock (St.Gall's)

16 Chris Kerr (St. Gall's)
17 Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)
18 Liam Carland (St. Paul's)
19 Dermot McCann (Creggan)
20 Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
21 Paddy Kelly (Portglenone)
22 Conal Kelly (St. John's)
23 Michael Magill (Cargin)
24 Tomas McCann (Cargin)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 08, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
That wouldnt be anything to do with kevin murray and paddy graffin as selectors? 8 cargin men in squad including magill. why are st galls so under represented?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 08, 2013, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 08, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
That wouldnt be anything to do with kevin murray and paddy graffin as selectors? 8 cargin men in squad including magill. why are st galls so under represented?
Jasus dont be getting Hardstation started....wont be long before paddy cunningham and Tomas mc cann are in to make it a clean sweep :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 08, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
That wouldnt be anything to do with kevin murray and paddy graffin as selectors? 8 cargin men in squad including magill. why are st galls so under represented?

Our lads are not interested and a lot older now, wouldn't worry as these are the lads that want to play for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on February 09, 2013, 11:46:53 PM
Is Magill going to cargin or what's the Craic? See his club is still tirnanog on that Team sheet. I thought the transfer was thro ugh and all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 09, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Magill must have no shame.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 10, 2013, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on February 09, 2013, 11:46:53 PM
Is Magill going to cargin or what's the Craic? See his club is still tirnanog on that Team sheet. I thought the transfer was thro ugh and all?

Twas meself who put the clubs in.  Didn't realise he'd gone to Cargin.  Must be recent??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on February 10, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
Big Magill has transferred to Cargin alright it went thru a county Ccc meeting in January

Him and Gerard OBOYLE will be two great target men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 11, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
And why must magill have no shame?  Lets hear your theory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 11, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
Do you not think its a strange decision?. Why would he move? Is he living/working up there now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 11, 2013, 10:23:33 AM
He lives in ballyronan now I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2013, 11:05:33 AM
Quote from: otbar on February 11, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
And why must magill have no shame?  Lets hear your theory.

The best player moving clubs for the sake of 12 miles round trip. In your mind that's obviously ok but it wouldn't sit well with most Gaels. Surely you understand the concept of club loyalty?

To be fair he's not the first tirnaog man to move to neighbouring clubs well into their senior career so its not as if he hasn't seen it happen around him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 11, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
Fair enough point. You clearly have not heard why then but are assuming.
A matter which will not be discussed on a media platform.
But yes you are entitled to your opinion and he is in fact a TRUE
Gael my friend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: otbar on February 11, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
Fair enough point. You clearly have not heard why then but are assuming.
A matter which will not be discussed on a media platform.
But yes you are entitled to your opinion and he is in fact a TRUE
Gael my friend.

That's fine too but why Cargin? Will he continue to hurl with Tir Na Og?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 11, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
He only can hurl for a team with no football club I believe.
Don't quote me on that now.

Not sure of why cargin. He is friendly with a lot of the boys and they
Are up there with st galls for standard. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: otbar on February 11, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
He only can hurl for a team with no football club I believe.
Don't quote me on that now.

Not sure of why cargin. He is friendly with a lot of the boys and they
Are up there with st galls for standard.

And Lamh's

Yeah you probably right about that, so Cushendall, Loughgiel could avail of his skills
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 11, 2013, 11:59:10 AM
LD for sure up there. Yeah lougheille, cushendall and actually
Clooney Gaels as they are a different club to the football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2013, 12:00:38 PM
Are a lot of hurling clubs not registered as almost separate entities now?

Randalstown have a few boys as skull says now playing for neighbouring clubs. Not sure what the story is.

If he lives in Ballyronan sure he could play for Ballymaguigan...

On the subject of so many Cargin players and Lamhs players on the antrim team dawson can only pick the best out of what's available to him. I think Anto Healy will be back and McLean when recovered from injury too which will up the numbers from st galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2013, 12:23:36 PM
Was at the game yesterday and what a mixed bag it turned out. The referee was woeful, and coming from Sligos neighbouring county did us no favours whatsoever. Allowing for that, we cant pass all the blame on this defeat on the referee. It was a cold misable day and the grass was six inches long in places.

We were sluggish last week in the first half, but yesterday we failed to come out of the traps at all. At half time I was looking at what I thought was a very strong Sligo team who were in total control of the game. They looked a hungrier and better team than us, and I was in fear of a real hiding.

Thankfully the real Antrim came out for the second half, and like last week, we hit a great 15 minute spell where we looked like worldbeaters. Suddenly every player looked interested and the support play and intensity upped several levels, and it was game on. Niblocks second yellow was a blow, but still 14 men were working their socks off, and a comeback couldnt be ruled out.

The referee practically killed the game off when he showed a needless straight red to Michael Magill (some refs wouldnt have showed a yellow) but still we battled on. Conall Kelly and Paddy C had goal chances and Tomas looked fresh and keen to get involved too.

Loved the battling qualities which Antrim teams away from home are not famous for. Frustrating drive home thinking about a brace of points that definitely got away. We must hit Fermanagh from the first whistle, because The Sligo wans near us were impressed with Roscommon the week before - and Fermanagh hit them for six at the weekend.

Beat Fermanagh and we can still go up the way this group is turning out!

































Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2013, 01:13:11 PM
Quote from: otbar on February 11, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
Fair enough point. You clearly have not heard why then but are assuming.
A matter which will not be discussed on a media platform.
But yes you are entitled to your opinion and he is in fact a TRUE
Gael my friend.

You're right I don't know the ins and outs of his story, but its my belief that in most cases, reasons will be found to e.g. fall out with ones in a club, blame family or work commitments etc , JUST to provide "the reason why", so there will always be a certain amount of preemptive stage managing to ensure reputations remain intact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on February 11, 2013, 02:29:10 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on February 10, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
Big Magill has transferred to Cargin alright it went thru a county Ccc meeting in January

Him and Gerard OBOYLE will be two great target men

And neither of them a Cargin man! haha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on February 11, 2013, 10:23:41 PM
Skull, there was no stage management and the reasons were more than genuine. All i wanted to know was the transfer through, for you to come in and bollock somebody without full knowledge shows u up as the one with the problem and a tube
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2013, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on February 11, 2013, 10:23:41 PM
Skull, there was no stage management and the reasons were more than genuine. All i wanted to know was the transfer through, for you to come in and bollock somebody without full knowledge shows u up as the one with the problem and a tube

If not too personal what were the reasons?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on February 12, 2013, 12:56:07 AM
Don't know all the ins and outs but know enough that unfair attacks like that aren't warranted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 12, 2013, 02:42:30 PM
I'm sure I'll find out in time. I'll come back and apologise if I have to. Until then I remain sceptical
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 12, 2013, 02:45:02 PM
In regards to magill, he is now 30 something and wants to finish his career perhaps winning a senior championship with cargin. although i cant see st galls being beaten for at least 5 years. I think there key players taking a break from county will do them the world of good.

in terms of sunday as a proud johnnies man, i cant get my head round how we dont have at least one player starting on the county team, we were the second best team in the county getting beaten by st galls in the final. St galls only had 2 players on the starting 15? how does this reflect antrim football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 12, 2013, 03:33:41 PM
the two best teams in the county played out the county final. you can only beat whos in front of you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2013, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on February 12, 2013, 02:45:02 PM
In regards to magill, he is now 30 something and wants to finish his career perhaps winning a senior championship with cargin. although i cant see st galls being beaten for at least 5 years. I think there key players taking a break from county will do them the world of good.

in terms of sunday as a proud johnnies man, i cant get my head round how we dont have at least one player starting on the county team, we were the second best team in the county getting beaten by st galls in the final. St galls only had 2 players on the starting 15? how does this reflect antrim football?

I don't understand why people keep asking about st galls players on the team... Dawson picks what is available to him. If everyone was available more than 2 galls playes would be on it. Healy and McLean should be back at some stage too.

What St Johns players would be on it? The two best teams in the county do not necessarily play out the county final. Lamhs and Cargin would be better than johnnies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 12, 2013, 10:38:27 PM
Just out of curiosity, what 2 players would you drop for anto and andy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 13, 2013, 09:29:12 AM
Andy will go into full back from what ive seen so far this season, surely simon mc donagh and conall kelly should be starting as should patrick mc bride and bam. i think lamh dhearg are done, they had their chance to catch st galls on the hop last year, there back line is poor. they will find it very difficult to contain a cargin forward line of magill, o boyle, close, tomas and paul mc cann and fergal J. anto healy will come into wing back, is sean kellys younger brother on the panel to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2013, 10:06:47 AM
The 4 of them - absolutely no way.

No offense to the fella but I think Conal Kelly is overrated and shouldn't be on the team. Haven't seen enough of McBride. What's McDonagh's best position? Bam good sub but not starting 15.

McLean to full back. Healy to contest number 4 / number 7 positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2013, 10:54:59 AM
The info I got from some well connected friends in Kerry (when I asked about Conall Kelly) was that he would have been as good as some of the players on the Kerry panel. Was well thought of down there, and I remember thinking we were losing a good player when it became clear he was not returning to Belfast.

Personally I think Conall still has enough to offer and is worthy of game time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on February 13, 2013, 11:38:27 AM
Jesas call a spade a spade!

Johnnies 2nd best in county because they limped into a county final? Cargin and lamhs would give them a pasting in championship.

I take the point about players being available and all that - Bam, Kelly, Doc, Magill, and others only get in due to absence of galls players -

Harsh reality!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 13, 2013, 12:12:44 PM
i think patrick mc bride could play wing back in this current team, and long term replacement for tony scullion. Mcdonagh is an option at midfield and full forward. Conall can play anywhere from 8-15.

Whats our strongest team at the minute from the players available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 13, 2013, 12:41:16 PM
Simon I'd quite like to hear your starting 15 with the 4 johnnies boys starting that you said earlier?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 13, 2013, 06:37:32 PM
McDonagh is a very limited footballer. I personally wouldn't have him on the panel never mind the starting 15!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on February 14, 2013, 10:48:16 AM
Deary Me - that is dumbest thing i have ever heard - get off your love for st galls - with all st galls players present they would not knock them boys of the county.  St galls are a great unit but not spectacular individuals and the main point here is that the players absent cant cut it when it comes to putting in the effort and are more concerned about the irish news back page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on February 14, 2013, 11:19:39 AM
Otbar are you joking? they have great individual players and if that is a blatant dig at certain individuals you need to wise up. if karl stewart, sean kelly, terry o neill, colin brady, the mc gourtys all committed they would start.

my team would be

Kerr
o boyle
mc clean
mc bride
scullion
crozier
healy
mccann
mcveigh
murray
niblock
t.mc cann
pollock
doot
mc donagh - to play as third midfielder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 11:24:09 AM
Quote from: otbar on February 14, 2013, 10:48:16 AM
Deary Me - that is dumbest thing i have ever heard - get off your love for st galls - with all st galls players present they would not knock them boys of the county.  St galls are a great unit but not spectacular individuals and the main point here is that the players absent cant cut it when it comes to putting in the effort and are more concerned about the irish news back page.

I'd say they are more interested in winning Championships and reaching Croke park in fairness, I've said it before and say it again you can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink it, if they are interested they will train and play. Silly argument going on. Dawsy has his players, they are doing fine, we never beat Sligo (lately) and weren't going to last week regardless of who was playing.

As for that point on them not being great individuals and good just as a unit, silly statement, Kelly, the McGourty's, McLean, Nibllock, Stewart, and Burnsy (in his day) to name but a few are cracking players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 11:55:55 AM
Beat us in the play off final one year did they not? Beat us last week did they not? I'd say over the years Sligo are beating us more, I stand to be corrected though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 14, 2013, 12:26:52 PM
So all the galls players missing are more interested in the back page of the irish news?. Really? But milltown and HS are right, like or agree with dawsys selection that's what he has chosen and let them get on with it. Good luck to them individually and as a team. I hope antrim have success this year and I'll be cheering them on irrespective of who is playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2013, 12:31:14 PM
Poor form disrespecting the efforts of those who are prepared to represent. Give those who are prepared to commit your support rather than concocting your dream team when the team hits a bit of turbulance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 14, 2013, 12:04:57 PM
We beat them last year in the league.

I think I read last week that over the last few years we have played them 6 times - each team winning 3 games each.

A far cry from "we never beat Sligo (lately)", you would agree?

Ok i stand corrected  :-\  But they beat us when it mattered, play off final at Croke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
when it mattered, play off final at Croke

When it mattered... in a meaningless game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
when it mattered, play off final at Croke

When it mattered... in a meaningless game?

Oh I didn't realise you go to Croke park to lose, oh silly me why oh why did they even bother to turn up, give back the Tommy Cooper cup, and while you are at it the Christy Ring.......

Let me see, be known as the league winners or be known as the team that got beat in a final at Croke Park, hmmmm Iknow which one the lads playing that day would have preferred
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
when it mattered, play off final at Croke

When it mattered... in a meaningless game?

Oh I didn't realise you go to Croke park to lose, oh silly me why oh why did they even bother to turn up, give back the Tommy Cooper cup, and while you are at it the Christy Ring.......

Let me see, be known as the league winners or be known as the team that got beat in a final at Croke Park, hmmmm Iknow which one the lads playing that day would have preferred

Firstly no player wants to lose any game, so that's ridiculous. But Baker knowingly played weaker teams in those league finals, or at least elected not to reveal his championship hand only a few weeks before. The League didn't matter; Antrim had already been promoted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2013, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
when it mattered, play off final at Croke

When it mattered... in a meaningless game?

Oh I didn't realise you go to Croke park to lose, oh silly me why oh why did they even bother to turn up, give back the Tommy Cooper cup, and while you are at it the Christy Ring.......

Let me see, be known as the league winners or be known as the team that got beat in a final at Croke Park, hmmmm Iknow which one the lads playing that day would have preferred

Firstly no player wants to lose any game, so that's ridiculous. But Baker knowingly played weaker teams in those league finals, or at least elected not to reveal his championship hand only a few weeks before. The League didn't matter; Antrim had already been promoted.

Did he not draft all the St Galls player into the team for that game, not along after they won the AI?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on February 14, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
Aye but he was saving all the big guns from cargin and lambs ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on February 15, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2013, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
when it mattered, play off final at Croke

When it mattered... in a meaningless game?

Oh I didn't realise you go to Croke park to lose, oh silly me why oh why did they even bother to turn up, give back the Tommy Cooper cup, and while you are at it the Christy Ring.......

Let me see, be known as the league winners or be known as the team that got beat in a final at Croke Park, hmmmm Iknow which one the lads playing that day would have preferred

Firstly no player wants to lose any game, so that's ridiculous. But Baker knowingly played weaker teams in those league finals, or at least elected not to reveal his championship hand only a few weeks before. The League didn't matter; Antrim had already been promoted.

Did he not draft all the St Galls player into the team for that game, not along after they won the AI?

In a word, no. And the Championship team/system was completely different for both games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on February 18, 2013, 12:00:57 PM
He drafted a few in for the last league game against Roscommon and the Sligo final i think, and lost both. Think it disrupted the team a bit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2013, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on February 18, 2013, 12:00:57 PM
He drafted a few in for the last league game against Roscommon and the Sligo final i think, and lost both. Think it disrupted the team a bit

Did alright, would have been better to finish off with the players that got them to the play off final, then arranged a clatter of challege games to bring the Galls lads into the system being used. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, having players back from an All Ireland team is very tempting to play straight away, I'm sure the Cross lads would have played for Armagh had they have been in same situation.

When it works out well your a great manager, when it goes tits up.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2013, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 15, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2013, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: stibhan on February 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
when it mattered, play off final at Croke

When it mattered... in a meaningless game?

Oh I didn't realise you go to Croke park to lose, oh silly me why oh why did they even bother to turn up, give back the Tommy Cooper cup, and while you are at it the Christy Ring.......

Let me see, be known as the league winners or be known as the team that got beat in a final at Croke Park, hmmmm Iknow which one the lads playing that day would have preferred

Firstly no player wants to lose any game, so that's ridiculous. But Baker knowingly played weaker teams in those league finals, or at least elected not to reveal his championship hand only a few weeks before. The League didn't matter; Antrim had already been promoted.

Did he not draft all the St Galls player into the team for that game, not along after they won the AI?

In a word, no. And the Championship team/system was completely different for both games.

Team that played Sligo in Div 3 final

1.  J Finucane (Lamh Dhearg)

2.  C Brady (St Galls)
3.  A McClean (St Galls)
4.  K O'Boyle (Cargin)

5.  T Scullion (Cargin)
6.  J Crozier (Cargin)
7.  S Kelly (St Galls)

8.  B Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
9.  M McCann (Cargin)

10.  T O'Neill (St Galls)
11.  CJ McGourty (St Galls)
12.  J Loughrey (St Brigids)

13.  P Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  M Magill (Randalstown)
15.  T McCann (Cargin)

The team that played Tyrone in the championship -


1. J Finucane (Lamh Dhearg)

2. C Brady ( St Galls)
3. A Douglas (St Johns)
4. K O'Boyle (Cargin)

5. T Scullion (Cargin)
6. J Crozier (Cargin)
7. S Kelly (St Galls)

8. A Gallagher (St Galls)
9. B Herron (Lamh Dhearg)

10. T O'Neill (St Galls)
11. K Niblock (St Galls)
12. J Loughrey (St Brigids)

13. P Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14. M McCann (Cargin)
15. T McCann (Cargin)


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2013, 11:22:24 AM
We were pure shite that night in Croke against Sligo, and now someone comes on to tell us that it was all just part of a clever plan by Baker and Niall Conway to put Mickey Harte foot asleep!

Lets take a thousand success starved Antrim football followers to the holy grail of Croke Park for a league final and give them a night to remember for all the wrong reasons. Sligo toyed with us and to many thats the night the bubble burst.

Might it not have been simpler to try and go out and win a game of football?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 25, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
A repeat of last years senior final in the first round of the senior this year. Big chance for the johnnies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 10:23:26 PM
Quote from: The Worker on February 25, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
A repeat of last years senior final in the first round of the senior this year. Big chance for the johnnies.

Aye no better chance, we'll do enough I think to win by a couple of points in a messy game. Is that Cargin who get Lamhs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: StoneCowboy on February 26, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
Hi lads,

Im just lookin to get a bit of help here.
Im reloacting back to Belfast in a few weeks, and Il be lookin for a new club in Belfast.
Il most likely live somewhere in Belfast.

I know a few lads at MoneyGlass, who said to come to them but I think it mite be too far out.
Im from Down originally, but ive been playing the last 6 seasons or so between Dublin London and Manchester.

The move to Belfast would definatley be for a club for at least 2 seasons.

Id be thinking a fairly decent grade, maybe good Intermediate / Decent senior, whod be friendly to blowins like myself. ... particulary a team lacking defenders, ha!

Id be a pretty dedicated player, wouldnt miss trainings or matches very rarely and should still have  few years decent ball in me.
Any help would be great, cheers lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 26, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
Just looking at the championship draws, did Ardoyne and Ahagallon not make the step up after last years success? Bit disappointing  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 26, 2013, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: StoneCowboy on February 26, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
Hi lads,

Im just lookin to get a bit of help here.
Im reloacting back to Belfast in a few weeks, and Il be lookin for a new club in Belfast.
Il most likely live somewhere in Belfast.

I know a few lads at MoneyGlass, who said to come to them but I think it mite be too far out.
Im from Down originally, but ive been playing the last 6 seasons or so between Dublin London and Manchester.

The move to Belfast would definatley be for a club for at least 2 seasons.

Id be thinking a fairly decent grade, maybe good Intermediate / Decent senior, whod be friendly to blowins like myself. ... particulary a team lacking defenders, ha!

Id be a pretty dedicated player, wouldnt miss trainings or matches very rarely and should still have  few years decent ball in me.
Any help would be great, cheers lads.

Intermediate clubs in Belfast:

St Enda's
St Teresa's
Gort Na Mona
Sarsfields
O'Donnell's

Senior clubs in Belfast:

St Gall's
St John's
Lamh Dhearg
St Pauls's
Rossa
St Brigid's

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 01, 2013, 03:36:31 PM
Antrim team to play Fermanagh on Sat

1. Chris Kerr Naomh Gall

2. Kevin O Boyle Clann na hEireann
3. Paul Doherty Ros Earcain
4. Nial Delargy Mhic Asmaint

5. Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann
6. Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
7. John Carron Clann na hEireann

8. Michael Mc Cann Clann na hEireann
9. Sean Mc Veigh Naomh Uile

10. Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
11. Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
12. Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg

13. Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
14. Michael Pollock Naomh Gall
15. Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg

16 John Finucane Lamh Dhearg
17 Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
18 James Laverty Clann na hEireann
19 Anto Healy Naomh Gall
20 Andy McClean Naomh Gall
21 Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
22 Conal Kelly Naomh Eoin
23 Dermot Mc Cann Ciceam Creagan
24 Liam Carland Naomh Pol
25 Tomas McCann Clann na hEireann
26 Paddy Kelly Mhic Asmaint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
Really looking forward to this match tonight.  Vibes are that Fermanagh have never been in better shape, and PC will now have a good handle on his best formation. They are two out of two, and their easy win over Roscommon last time out really caught the eye. (Roscommon had beaten Sligo in their first game).

Its the kind of league where not much separates all the teams, but if we can get across the line tonight (I`d settle for a one point win) then we can use this as a springboard for promotion. A good start is essential though because our own fitness levels are excellent too and I think we will see two teams really going for it tonight, with a refreshing emphasis on putting scores on the board!

Be good to see a decent crowd out - hard to beat Sat night under the floodlights! Come on the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 02, 2013, 11:07:06 AM
Despite what you might read in the papers Fermanagh are very confident of winning easily tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 03, 2013, 02:13:41 AM
AQMP - you were on the money to be fair. PC has got a great run out of Fermanagh and they are a fairly serious outfit. Fit stong hungry and a game plan thats exceptionally hard to break down.

We needed to work very hard indeed for anything we got, but coming from four points down again puts character on a team. Well done to FD and the lads, that was one that could have got away.

For entertainment value it was worth every penny. Two teams that wouldnt be out of place in Division two.

Sean Mc Veigh standout for us, just wanted it so much you could see his passion for the cause all night long. Four class fetches, and the goal of the game. Now the main man.

Ryan Murray demonstrating his class yet again. Two wonder points when the chips were down- this guy is the real deal. Thats one of the corner slots sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 03, 2013, 02:21:18 AM
Just back in from the clubs fight nite in the Tullyglass. Great scrap at the end between two of the Antrim senior football panellists who were on duty earlier in Casement. Toe to toe, wouldnt be out of place in any billing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 03, 2013, 01:36:19 PM
interesting game last night we could have lost by 5 and could have won by 5. first half our shooting was terrible between wides and wrong options. only for a stunning save from chris kerr in the second half we would have been dead and buried. what happened with crozier's sending off? sean mc veigh was outstanding and Brendan herron had a solid game at wing forward. On another note, fair play to chris kerr for lining out last night after the passing of his father.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2013, 08:27:37 PM
Yes fair play indeed. Would have been hard for Chris to focus considering what happened lately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2013, 12:47:33 PM
+1. And surely Chris was fouled in his square for the Fermanagh goal.

Lots of talking points from Saturdays match, but all things considered we are still in a decent position. A win against Wicklow on Sunday is essential now, as they dont seem to be firing yet, and neither do Meath or Roscommon.  We get these three all up next, and two wins guarantees our safety, while three leaves us with our last match with Monaghan as a promotion possibility.

Brendan Mulgrew (Co PRO) made an interesting reference in his match notes to the fact that one or two of our "established" players had under-performed. Thats a view I also share, so while a managers trust and loyalty to a player is a good quality, there comes a time when the player must simply start producing the goods.

Frank Dawson comes across as a man not scared to make the hard choices, and at this level, thats the way it has to be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 04, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2013, 12:47:33 PM
+1. And surely Chris was fouled in his square for the Fermanagh goal.

Lots of talking points from Saturdays match, but all things considered we are still in a decent position. A win against Wicklow on Sunday is essential now, as they dont seem to be firing yet, and neither do Meath or Roscommon.  We get these three all up next, and two wins guarantees our safety, while three leaves us with our last match with Monaghan as a promotion possibility.

Brendan Mulgrew (Co PRO) made an interesting reference in his match notes to the fact that one or two of our "established" players had under-performed. Thats a view I also share, so while a managers trust and loyalty to a player is a good quality, there comes a time when the player must simply start producing the goods.

Frank Dawson comes across as a man not scared to make the hard choices, and at this level, thats the way it has to be.

Goal looked legit to me. Keenan punched it straight out of his hands without touching him.
Kerr was also ropey under another 3 high balls and lucky not to give away any goals because of them. Kick outs were good though as usual as was his save with legs at end, vital.

Good game. Should have been well ahead at HT and were lucky to get back in it at end. Then should have won it but gave ball away and could have lost it. Weird.

Ryan Murray is the real deal. Shows for ball and drives at defenders, a natural forward. The total opposite of P Cunningham.

Young Delargy worked hard but was troubled by McCabe and his strength. He dived in 3 or 4 times to tackles trying to burst boys when he doesnt yet have the strength for it. The man then was clean past him and we were in trouble. That'll be great in a few years (diving in bursting boys as we dont do that near enough) but for now he maybe should stand his man up. Not easy playing at 6 at his age. Some pace about him too. In game v Cavan (when playing at 4) i thought he was too content to let his man get ball though

McVeigh was class but shouldve had another goal when he fired well over--he couldve walked on in.

We were troubled by Fermanagh's ball winning and in particular no 12 Donnelly. They spoiled Mick well i thought.

Niblock played v well without getting much of a sight on goal, bar the goal.

Pollock couldnt get into it and PC was not in game at all, standing in behind.

Was difficult as Fermanagh flooded their defence. This made for a low scoring 1st half. As players tired though we had more chances in 2nd half.

Couldve won and couldve lost so draw is not the worst
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 04, 2013, 02:01:51 PM
It was a blatant foul and only given because the ball that was thrown over the line wasnt given, he broke two other high balls and fermanagh players were first to the ball we could have been in serious bother. Hat off to the lad playing 6 days after his father had passed away and making a crucial save at a vital time. kickouts were solid also. Mr reliable captain o boyle had a hard night against there number 13, tricky footballer.

full forward line was being carried by niblock, cunningham didnt look interested and stood in behind his man. pollock couldnt get in to it as mentioned. Michael mc cann was frustrated and singled out for 'special treatment', tomas running at them caused alot of trouble. delargy was ripped apart by no11, no sign of healy getting back into the team?

from a biased point of view, what happened conall wasnt brought on? he carried us in club championship last year to get us to the final, im sure he could offer something from the start?

is there any buses going at the weekend to wicklow game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
Funny enough Simon, all the Fermanagh men beside me were saying that Shane Mc Cabe (the Fermanagh no 11) was really well held on the night. Usually he gets a chance to totally dictate the play, and by his own high standards wasnt able to get fully going on Saturday. I think the video of the game will show that over 75 minutes his 19 year old marker did a very satisfactory job on one of Ulster footballs best players who has probably "ripped manys a good defender apart" over the years!

But then again I would say that (LOL). Fair play to Chris too though for a vital interception that helped keep him scoreless on the night.

Frank Dawson and Co will watch the video though, and make their own judgement call. I`m sure they will see the match saving tackle at the end too, when the Fermanagh player was three yards clear and clean through......

And yes Simon, Conall Kelly is an excellent player.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 04, 2013, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
Funny enough Simon, all the Fermanagh men beside me were saying that Shane Mc Cabe (the Fermanagh no 11) was really well held on the night. Usually he gets a chance to totally dictate the play, and by his own high standards wasnt able to get fully going on Saturday. I think the video of the game will show that over 75 minutes his 19 year old marker did a very satisfactory job on one of Ulster footballs best players who has probably "ripped manys a good defender apart" over the years!

But then again I would say that (LOL). Fair play to Chris too though for a vital interception that helped keep him scoreless on the night.

Frank Dawson and Co will watch the video though, and make their own judgement call. I`m sure they will see the match saving tackle at the end too, when the Fermanagh player was three yards clear and clean through......

And yes Simon, Conall Kelly is an excellent player.

Your boy is very talented and going to be top class if keeps progression goin. McCabe is a mouthpiece who was too content to hit 5 yard passes so that he could take the return himself (greedy hole) or else he couldve done more damage. He did go past ND a few times as ND threw himself in trying to burst man as stated above.

I meant to say his man v Cavan got the ball in front of him and then ND tackled him. Antrim backs have been doing that for years but it doesnt do, you have to get to ball and break it (obv that cant always happen and you dont want to dive in at ball if forward has chance to spin you). ND doesnt appear to be type to let that happen though and is still only a kid, learning ropes at this level. Showed some pace on ball the other night too. As stated, playin at 6 for County Seniors is indictment enough of his ability. Just tell him not to dive in to bury a boy (did it 3 times in a row in 2nd half) in his 30's as he doesnt yet have the strength to stop him (McCabe rode his tackle 3 times in row and was through but didnt have killer instinct to punish us). He will do (have the strength) in a couple of years however and i like that style of play

Im just analyzing what i saw. He is and will be quality.

Fermanagh goal was fine btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2013, 12:23:00 AM
Cheers Gold, I dont have a problem at all with your sensible and reasoned judgement. He needs to deal with public opinion in his own way - its all part of playing at that level. He definitely wont want me coming on here and defending or supporting him, thats for sure!!

He is very grounded and level headed so should be able to take constructive opinions like you have offered on board and deal with it accordingly. I am the one who would get more wound up about it TBH! 




















Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 05, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
Niall had a strong game I thought, is progressing steadily since Cavan game.

I think we should head into Wicklow game in good heart. They salvaged a draw last week against a Roscommon team that seems to have regressed since last year. The draw will give Wicklow a lift but really I reckon they are something like a Div 4 team. Hopefully our lads go at them early on and put some scores on the board early in the game.

Wasn't Kelly carrying an injury into the league? Maybe he isn't right yet. Against Cavan he came on when C Murray ran out of gas. Interesting the other night that Conor, while not as effective as against Cavan, was still running very strongly at the end of the game, and bagging scores.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2013, 01:39:24 PM
Conor Murray is a great find these last couple of years. He shows for every ball and wants to run and take men on all the time. The odd time he overdoes it, but give me a player who is always available and would go through a brick wall every time for the team.

Mark Sweeney has the same qualities. The dropping back HF who can then make 50 yards for you and break two or three tackles, opening up defences. And then theres Locky too - a hell of a miss at the minute. All Mark Mc Hugh/Karl Lacy runner types.

Call me the optimist, but hopefully there is a way these two can still be part of FD`s plans, if not this year, then hopefully next year. We just dont produce quality like this in every batch, and we need them all around at the same time to challenge for Ulster.

Throw in any of SK, Aidso, any Mc Gort fully committed, or a Magill at his very best, and you know, we have a team that I would honestly fancy very strongly against anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on March 06, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
Bannside, a helping of reality.
James Loughrey has transferred to Cork, and will not return.
Mark Sweeny has transferred to Dublin, and will not come back, for the foreseeable future.
The Gall's men you identified have no interest, and comments of this nature undermine the lads that do train, and wish to play.
The point against Fermanagh will probably mean we will not be relegated this year. The performance was appalling. Fermanagh were a 'team', which had been coached. Antrim was a group of individuals who appear not to have a game-plan. At least Baker had a 'plan', whatever the quality.
Canavan proves that young, 'modern' managers can form a team 'which is greater in capability than the sum of the parts'!
Conor Murray may be a capable club footballer, and as such deserves a place on this team, but, like others, he needs to understand that a player 'carrying the ball' is from a past era. He was responsible for the Fermanagh final score, when he 'dived', having carried the ball in to a group of 4 defenders. A bit of training in passing the ball quickly, and not 'seeking contact' would help.
We need to understand that we do not have enough quality players, and the potential which existed in 2009/2010 has been wasted. Get a new, young, manager, and look to the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2013, 01:50:01 AM
The point I was making NL is that we actually do have the quality players - but for various reasons work/committment etc - we cant get them all on the same pitch at the same time. Those six missing names I mentioned are all top performers - but you are 100% right - we must move on.

You are right too in that PC has turned Fermanagh into a well drilled outfit. But FD is no mug either and knows his way around a football team. He will adopt a system to suit our strengths - whenever he knows the players he is basing that around. Six or Eight years in Down football is as good an education as you can get. And personally I think we will get four more points in our next two games and get into a very safe position in the league.

The ball carrying thing you talk of is ok to a point. But all good teams do have four or five players who can carry ball, break tackles, and by taking a "man out" makes space for others. I quoted Lacy and Mc Hugh of Donegal. But they have half a dozen others likewise. Its effective and great to watch. But yes, quick hands and if a man is available, quick feet will allow the ball to move faster.

Finally the comment about a young modern manager. In most cases thats a punt, unless they have been round the block a bit and got a few stripes earned. We took that punt a few years ago. Young and modern is great, but has to mix with relevant experience too. FD has earned his stripes and was the best man for the job this time around. Deserves the support of the county behind him, and hasnt done much wrong so far.






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on March 07, 2013, 09:52:36 AM
I see Mick McCann has temporarily quit the Antrim team, anybody know what happened there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 07, 2013, 10:17:06 AM
massive loss, our best player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 07, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
There is no mystery about Mick McCann's stepping back - it is exactly as reported. The fella has a hell of a lot going on at the moment and felt his football was suffering. His proposed remedy is to take a few week's hiatus from the game and FD is happy to accomodate.

Mick will be back soon enough and I think the team will see the benefit of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2013, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 07, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
There is no mystery about Mick McCann's stepping back - it is exactly as reported. The fella has a hell of a lot going on at the moment and felt his football was suffering. His proposed remedy is to take a few week's hiatus from the game and FD is happy to accomodate.

Mick will be back soon enough and I think the team will see the benefit of it.

Maybe Ive missed it (cant be bothered reading back tbh) but what was the story with MM axed again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 07, 2013, 02:30:04 PM
What is going on with our football panel?

Mick mc cann has taken a back seat, magill has been axed? surely hes one of our best forwards?
i am led to believe that ciaran close has also been axed. Add on top of that mark sweeny, loughrey, gallagher, the johnston twins all missing from last years panel, then the boys who have 'retired' from st galls. Can anyone shed any light on this and why players dont want to play for their county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 07, 2013, 03:59:31 PM
Dawson is looking to the Youth and is preparing saffrons for not only this year but next few.  He told magill a target man is not required for his style of play and that he will be blooding in U21's.
Hope all works out.

Mc cann I agree will come back rested.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 07, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
Mick mc cann has taken a back seat - yes, and will be back

magill has been axed? surely hes one of our best forwards? - MM's own doing, not the managers.

i am led to believe that ciaran close has also been axed. FD decided that.

Add on top of that mark sweeny, (moved to Dublin for work) loughrey (moved to Cork for work)
gallagher (left late lastyear)  the johnston twins (made their own decision for personal reasons)

all missing from last years panel, then the boys who have 'retired' from st galls. Can anyone shed any light on this and why players dont want to play for their county?

Guys who want to play, and adhere to the regime, are playing. We will see the benefit of this approach in the long term.

As Bannside earlier, we can hardly complain too much about results so far can we?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2013, 09:55:39 PM
I had got the impression Locky was away for a year - didnt know that he wasnt expected back at all. And Sweeney being in Dublin - Jesus wept thats only an hour and a half away. People in London would drive that to work every day!

Its only my thoughts (and I know that dosent matter in the big picture) but couldnt those two have been training away with good clubs, ( or a county set up by agreement) and making themselves available on matchdays, especially around championship time, as long as they were in tip top condition. Didnt some of the Kerry players train as a group in Dublin?

The Johnston boys need some private space to deal with a personal matter. Marty and Ricky will be back in due course. This best left alone.

Finally Mick Mc Cann. A mature decision by a player who knows himself that he wasnt firing recently. A top lad, Mick will bounce back fresher to play his usual pivotal role. Into his thirteenth year with Antrim (non-stop since he was 15) and owes no one anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 08, 2013, 08:00:39 AM
Quote from: otbar on March 08, 2013, 02:02:41 AM
How dare you Brendan Belfast say michael magill deserved it. He never put a foot wrong and actually was
Doing additional training. Your friends anto Healy and dirty aidso
Missed training sessions and and other matters we can not expose.
I ma whitehill man and michael magill gave 100 quid each month to development of gaa with his
Father giving double. And you turn round with a lose statement that he caused it himself. He works
Across the globe. He was left of the county the same way Mccann had to take the break
That people need to survive.
Don't dare insult that fellow. He is salt of the earth and Brendan ur sadly mistaken and bottom line a people follower.

Your assessment is loose and boarder line wrong.

I appreciate that you are defending a club mate, but this type of information has absolutely no place on this board or on any public forum. I would ask you to take this down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2013, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 08, 2013, 08:00:39 AM
Quote from: otbar on March 08, 2013, 02:02:41 AM
How dare you Brendan Belfast say michael magill deserved it. He never put a foot wrong and actually was
Doing additional training. Your friends anto Healy and dirty aidso
Missed training sessions and and other matters we can not expose.
I ma whitehill man and michael magill gave 100 quid each month to development of gaa with his
Father giving double. And you turn round with a lose statement that he caused it himself. He works
Across the globe. He was left of the county the same way Mccann had to take the break
That people need to survive.
Don't dare insult that fellow. He is salt of the earth and Brendan ur sadly mistaken and bottom line a people follower.

Your assessment is loose and boarder line wrong.

I appreciate that you are defending a club mate, but this type of information has absolutely no place on this board or on any public forum. I would ask you to take this down.

Could take it all down as far as I'm concerned, firstly I don't understand his post and got a sore head from trying to read it!! Secondly he's giving off about other players (on/off the panel) while complaining about posters having an opinion about his own clubman?? Baffling to say the least
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 08, 2013, 10:13:11 AM
According to Club Aontroma the team for the Wicklow game is:

1.  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin)
3.  Andy McClean (St Gall's)
4.  Niall Delargy (Portglenone)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)

8.  Paul Doherty (Rasharkin)
9.  Sean McVeigh (Ballymena)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Kevin Niblock (St Gall's)
12.  Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)

13.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  Michael Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
15.  Tomas McCann (Cargin)


16.  John Finucane (Lamh Dhearg)
17.  Conal Kelly (St John's)
18.  James Laverty (Cargin)
19.  Anto Healy (St Gall's)
20.  Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
21.  Liam Carland (St Paul's)
22.  Paddy Kelly (Portglenone)
23.  Michael Pollock (St Gall's)
24.  Dermot McCann (Creggan)
25.  Colm Duffin (Moneyglass)
26.  Peter McNicholl (Ballymena)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 08, 2013, 11:51:31 AM
Strong enough team for the weekend, well balanced hopefully doherty can provide the spark mc cann does when playing for the county. Some great options on the bench with c.kelly, pollock, cunningham and duffin. Hopefully we can get the two points and kick on towards the top of the table!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 10, 2013, 03:20:48 PM
4 each at HT.  Both teams down to 14.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 10, 2013, 04:09:53 PM
Wicklow finish with 12 men but still manage a draw.  FT Wicklow 2-7 Antrim 1-10.  Poor result and conceding goals yet again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2013, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 10, 2013, 04:09:53 PM
Wicklow finish with 12 men but still manage a draw.  FT Wicklow 2-7 Antrim 1-10.  Poor result and conceding goals yet again.

4 mins here

http://wicklowgaaonline.com/2013/03/10/highlights-wicklow-v-antrim/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on March 11, 2013, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2013, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 10, 2013, 04:09:53 PM
Wicklow finish with 12 men but still manage a draw.  FT Wicklow 2-7 Antrim 1-10.  Poor result and conceding goals yet again.

4 mins here

http://wicklowgaaonline.com/2013/03/10/highlights-wicklow-v-antrim/

What the hell was going on between the two Antrim players at 3:33? Was that Kelly keeping the ball away from Cunningham? That's the sort of childish craic you'd expect to see between two opposing players, not teammates!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 11, 2013, 10:49:48 AM
We need a full match report from Bannside.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 11, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
As part of a small antrim support yesterday, i couldnt help but come away from the game feeling like we had lost and it was a point dropped. The boys battled well in the first half and went in at half time 4-4 after playing into a very strong breeze i think at half time we were in a great position and playing with a gale force wind, got a great start to the 2nd half with tomas mc cann in great form and tore them apart. Mcveigh and paul doherty played well around the middle got a lot of ball. ryan murray and tomas tore them apart inside, with their pace. if you had pollock at full forward with them two inside, they would give any defence headaches with their pace power and direct running. Herrons sending off was harsh as he was going for the ball and the keeper ended up worse off. This is the team that ended up lining out, and give a fair and honest assessment. The conditions were dreadful for the game, bitter cold, swirling wind, rain/snow.

Chris kerr - Solid display under high ball, kickouts were top class in the conditions no chance for the two goals. 7.5
KOBO - great performance from captain fantastic, always out in front of his man 8
Andy Mc Lean- apart from the first goal were he failed to hold on to the ball he done a sterling job marking a man at least a foot taller than him. 6.5
Sean Finch- solid throughout and good distribution 6.5
Tony scullion- seen alot of ball but at times his distribution let him down but great at running with the ball.7
niall delargy- got dragged all over the place and dived in too many times, bit out of his depth at no6? 5
justic Crozier- mr consistency as usual never put a foot wrong, great reader of the game. 7
Sean Mcveigh- battled well and caught alot of kickouts but again distrubtion lets him down6.5
Paul DOherty- scored a point and caught alot of kickouts tired near the end and his man influenced their revival.7
conor murray- great at running the ball but too often runs in to tackles and loses the ball. super athlete though.7
conall Kelly- late replacement for niblock? scored a good point, showed well and throws himself about. great to see him back playing massive boost for our club aswell.7.5
Brendan Herron- won alot of breaks and was targeted for alot of our kickouts.7
ryan murray- livewire, caused havoc, dropped a few balls short but shows well and great movement 8
michael Herron- didnt really get into the game booked early for an off the ball incident and 2nd yellow was harsh 4.5
tomas mc cann- star of the show, great to have him back must have scored 1-6 at least. class act, and carried a huge threat. 9.5

anto healy wasnt on long enough but good to see him back in antrim colours.

paddy cunningham score a free but missed a terrible free in front of the goals, didnt offer much from play beaten for pace alot of the time. 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2013, 12:19:27 PM
Simons opening paragraph summed it up, and I would agree totally with that. We thought we had the game under control a few times but a few silly mistakes cost us dearly. The two players responsible will not relish the video evidence for the two goals that gave Wicklow a lifeline, and the impetus to kick on.

I think we had two great individual performances - Kobo and Tomas. Great to see Tomas back fresh and rarin to go and the ultra consistent Kobo bounce back again quickly from his Paul Ward experience. But thats where it ends. There were far too many middling performances for me, and from a technical perspective we gave possession away too often, and support play not what it should be.

Some of your ratings Simon are a bit OTT. Conall Kelly a good player, but not that hot yesterday and rightly got called ashore. Four shots, one return - too high a stat at this level. Your blue and white specs still awarded a 7.5 - sorry but I had to call that! A few others I would question too, but all about opinions.

The loss of Niblock, especially his power on the ball is a huge loss, and he is touch and go for Saturdays must win match against Roscommon.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 11, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
The ratings were based on my opinions bannside and also taking into consideration the conditions you will agree were horrendous, i thought conall battled well and is another option for kickouts big strong man and retained the ball well obviously niblock is the first choice no11 but he done well for a man who hasnt played in a while. I agree totally with the distribution it was terrible in particular in the last 15mins kicked the ball away under no pressure and let them back into it, we should have kicked on after kicking 3 points after half time and made our extra man count. the next game is a must win game if we are to seek promotion. if we win we will be in with a chance of promotion. ill leave the blue and white tinted glasses in the car from now on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 11, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 11, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
I believe Lámh Dhearg got a bit of a bad doing at Slaughtmanus on Friday. Supporters came over the fence and Frankie Fitzsimons suffered a busted eye socket which is being operated on today. Shower of cnuts.

Lambs totally innocent too im sure ?....have they not been involved in a bad row every year for the past number of years ? Karma maybe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on March 11, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
Would anyone be able to link me or email me a list of Antrim club secretaries email addresses?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 11, 2013, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on March 11, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
Would anyone be able to link me or email me a list of Antrim club secretaries email addresses?

http://www.antrimgaa.net/

There is a link to a list of Antrim clubs and their secretary contact details.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on March 11, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 11, 2013, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on March 11, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
Would anyone be able to link me or email me a list of Antrim club secretaries email addresses?

http://www.antrimgaa.net/

There is a link to a list of Antrim clubs and their secretary contact details.

Gracias.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 14, 2013, 11:16:17 AM
Huge game this weekend vs rosscommon, the game is now 2.30 on saturday hopefully we can get a big crowd at casement to drive the lads on towards promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 14, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 11, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
I believe Lámh Dhearg got a bit of a bad doing at Slaughtmanus on Friday. Supporters came over the fence and Frankie Fitzsimons suffered a busted eye socket which is being operated on today. Shower of cnuts.

Well, I can remember a guy losing the sight in one of his eyes at the hands of the aforesaid club, during a hurling league final in Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 16, 2013, 05:01:16 PM
Div 4 here we come?? >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2013, 05:15:41 PM
That performance was depressing. Hard to comprehend how poor we were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 16, 2013, 05:15:41 PM
That performance was depressing. Hard to comprehend how poor we were.

Couldn't make it, I was refereeing a Feile game (sleet,snow,wind!!!) Were our lads not up for it ? No fight? Or beat by a better team?

On the Feile game, these lads haven't even started the league yet and they have played the Feile games already, unfair on lads to play in those conditions IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2013, 05:45:07 PM
There was a big difence between the teams mr. Strength wise we barely broke a tackle the whole day. No cutting edge in the forward line. Their full forward had a field day too.

First half was up there with as bad i've ever seen an antrim team play.

Second half improved a good bit with the herrons winning good break ball but when the ball went into the full forward line it either went straight back out or we worked it backwards.

On the plus side kevin o'boyle is a class act. That's about all could be said!

Hoping it was just a bad day at office. Horrendous stuff. How it was only a 2 point game i don't know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 17, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
As bad a performance as ever witnessed by Antrim yesterday.

Div 4 is beckoning bar a miracle.

Dunno if i could be bothered talking about it.

Could maybe play McClean at 6 or even in middle as No 3 is not his best spot.

Need Niblock, Mick and Tomas McCann back asap.

Dawson was totally wrong to take McVeigh off before HT. McVeigh had ran into traffic and got turned over instead of lettin the ball in (there was no one showing and no one to hit it in to). Dawson immediately took him off. McVeigh had made a few mistakes but his midfield partner Doherty hadnt touched the ball yet. Dawson got frustrated and took off our best player this year--stupid.

Took us 26mins to score. Nothing up front, Murray and Pollock couldnt get out in front enough to get ball. Compare that to Compston who was out in front of MCClean all day, leading the line and causing havoc.

We were so bad that when we had the ball up front and kept recycle it as we couldnt get a shot off a player just threw his leg at it and kicked the ball wide just so they could get a kick-out and we could try again. We just gave up on attacks-weird.

We've had massive losses this year. But you cant blame boys for leaving the county when other boys were happy to train all year last year and other years then f off during championship to go on 1 week holidays. Stinking commitment by people who give no f**k about anything bar themselves

Disgraceful crowd too--Rossies had more than us and us at home. But sure Celtic were probably playin a bunch of fishermen or postmen.

Thomas McCann not fit to start but had him doing sprints on sideline (more than he'd do during a game) from 4 mins in. Then put him on before half time (why not start him ?) Dropped Tony Scullion who gives his all for the cause yet put him on during 1st half (why not start him?)

If we go down we'll never get out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on March 18, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
It is a story of continuous decline. A point against Fermanagh was not deserved. Antrim were lucky against Wicklow. These points will probably keep us in Div 3 for this year but have simply disguised how far Antrim has fallen. Whilst we have lost a number of key players, those remaining show no signs of a 'game-plan', or any understanding of what they are supposed to be doing. Again, Conor Murray doing a passable impression of 'Kev' is of no assistance to the remainder of the team. At least, Dawson pulled him off this time!

Whether we are 'secure' or not in Div3, we need to seek the services of a new manager, now. Baker (who did a great 3-year job) should have been replaced a year earlier than he was, and we can't slip into the same mistake. We have two Universities in the County, with a number of young, 'expert' coaches, from a new generation, who have trained with McGuckin, O'Rourke, etc. Give them a chance and they may stay with us for a couple of years. At least a 'professional' approach to coaching would assist. No harm to Dawson, he is simply an 'old man', with 'old' ideas. I have no axe to grind with the man. His 'qualities' were there to be seen when he was appointed.

As for the players, a number of these men are 'pulling on the shirt', and doing their best! We must continue to support them. We cannot afford any more 'departures' (and I hope McVeigh doesn't walk!)!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 18, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
A very depressing state of affairs indeed, but to say its all down to the managers age is nothing short of insulting. Cathal Murray, Kevin Murray, Paddy Graffin and Gerard Mc Nulty are all young men in managerial terms, and all well regarded in their own right - and are all heavily involved in this current  backroom team. Age has nothing to do with this.

I was totally disgusted by what I saw on Saturday, and sadly division four looks a distinct possibility. Sligo will probably beat Wicklow at home, and unless we get something from Saturday against Meath, then we are favourites for the chop.

Saturday is now our biggest game of the season. The players will not need told that the Roscommon performance was "dire", and they have a duty to come out fighting this weekend.  Quite simply they too must also take some responsibility for what is happening. Its not the manager kicking the ball away time after time, and its not Frank Dawson missing the tackles, missing vital short frees, or not offering essential back up support play to the player on the ball. Nor is he a forward who refuses to take his man on, even once.

These are basic things that any county manager should be able to take as "given".

Players need to get the basics right and stand up and be counted, starting again with Saturday night. The captain cant do it on his own.











Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 18, 2013, 11:25:59 PM
Not one hit was put in the other day. This is problem in our clubs that's affecting our senior team.

There are very few genuine hard men knocking about who will bury a player fairly. Sure u may get a broken leg or jaw from behind up the white rock rd by some coward but you'd very rarely get winded or your ribs cracked by a fair shoulder.

Many of those boys playin aren't good footballers or ball players unfortunately. Just athletes.

Anyway judging by the turnout no one gives a f**k. Where are the crowd from clones 09?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 19, 2013, 09:52:15 AM
its took me a few days to gather my thoughts in regards to saturday, the simple fact is that we dont have the quality. for example out of the starting 15 on saturday with the exception of kevin o boyle. who would get on for our current football champions st galls?

i know its not frank missing the tackles or the shots but last year at no7 we all had the joy of paying into games to watch one of our best ever players line out at wing back in james loughrey. Niall delargy on sat, by all accounts hes a decent corner back but going forward and bringing and attacking option running from deep is zero, micko and brendan herron played most of the game on our 45? which left two murrays and pollock being marked by 7/8 players. it was shambolic that performance on saturday, from 1-15 (apart from o boyle). finucanes kickouts had no distance what so ever, he made a good save after a bad kickout, but the two balls he kicked straight into the stands unopposed was shocking. the full back line got tortured because they had no protection. if we dont win on saturday, then its bye bye div 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 19, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
Lads - for the record, the game v Meath is 2pm Sunday, not Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
Big week for Antrim Football.

Tonight we will get quick taste of what our minor team has to offer this year, when they travel to play Tyrone in their new Garvaghey Road complex near Ballygawley, in the minor league.

Tomorrow we await Derry in the Ulster U-21 C`ship at Casement, and then "die dog or shite the licence" time against Meath on SUNDAY.

Please God there is respite somewhere on the horizon!

See Tony Scullion pulling no punches again in the Irish News. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 19, 2013, 11:01:12 AM
We dont have the critical mass of players, coaches who really want to coach, interested parents/family members, local club supporters etc etc to make good things happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 19, 2013, 12:01:40 PM
I was interested to read Bannside's comments, as an astutute reader of the game and someone who is honest in giving an assessment. 'Disgusted' with Saturday is probably a fair summary, I haven't been able to get the performance and result out of my head since. It genuinely was the worst performance since we failed to beat Waterford at home in 08 when promotion from Div 4 was on the cards.

I hope that in the fullness of the season overall Saturday comes to be regarded as a 'blip' in Antrim's year. I dont think the outcomes reflects the work rate of the players in training, or their ability. Guys who don't normally miss 20 metre passes were missing them. Guys who normally don't miss challenges were missing them. The unwillingness to take on a player or take on a shot suggested a lack of confidence which should not be present. Our kickouts to Roscommon players were suicidal.

Fellas should have taken enough heart of the comeback v Sligo and battle v Fermanagh to have confidence. Ryan Murray scored points against Fermanagh that were sublime, yet looked a pale shadow of that player on Saturday. Sean McVeigh was hastily withdrawn in what looked like an act of frustration from Dawson, he is a better player than he showed. Just two examples to make the point.

I am almost afraid to go on Sunday - if we get a similiar performance then it will be a defeat, relegation and depression. But I will go because I want to be there when it is a markedly different performance, a win, salvation and hope. Right?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2013, 02:37:37 PM
Love your positivity Brendan - hopefully it rubs off on the players come Sunday.

Every manager knows that in any given season there will be results that simply cannot be explained. There will be a horribly negative experience (like Saturday past) or just as likely, a win out of the blue when no one expects it.

That is the same with a player. Usually you will get a performance consistent with their ability, but occasionally there will be a stinker, and occasionally a man of the match display.

Quite simply we haven't settled down yet. The new management is still searching for the right formula, and mix of players that can deliver some consistency. Three of our recent Ulster players have been missing (Mick, Locky and Nibs) and that class and experience just cant be replaced. Aidso a big miss too, especially his leadership qualities. And there are others as well that have been well documented here before.

In the meantime 15 players will be handed a jersey come 1.30 on Sunday and asked to represent their county. They only have to show the same spirit and fight that we saw three weeks ago against Fermanagh to be in with a great shout of a result. Nothing less will do. If they play their hearts out and lose, no-one can say a word. All we ask for is a performance that is worthy of the jersey and the occasion.

Backs to the wall - come out fighting lads.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 19, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
TS has a bit much to say for himself on this, he shouldnt be pointing fingers in that kind of way, especially since he wasnt on the first 15. Doesnt sound good coming from someone with the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
What did Scullion say?

I thought young Murray did alright on Saturday - he was willing to show for the ball and was willing to have a go at taking men on. He wasn't getting support so ended up in traffic a lot but to avoid that he needed support. I thought he looked like he had potential. I thought Mickey Pollock was poor in that he wasn't positive at all and always ended up going backwards and should have been off first.

It did seem harsh on McVeigh being taken off at half time but we did improve second half it has to be said. We hadn't much to improve upon but we did improve. To be fair to him he was having a go.

We need Kevin Niblock back - he is a massive loss to that team. Also Scullion must start as he's one of few people in the team who can actually break a tackle. Delargy is just too light for the half back line. He's young and will improve. I thought he did well in the corner and deserves to start therebut he loses the ball in the tackle due to lack of strength in the HB line so corner back would suit him much better for now.

Here's hoping for better on Sunday. We can't be as bad as Saturday or we'd never get any points off anyone.  How that game only ended up with 2 points in it I'll never know. There were so many anonymous players that you'd expect so much more of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 19, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 19, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
TS has a bit much to say for himself on this, he shouldnt be pointing fingers in that kind of way, especially since he wasnt on the first 15. Doesnt sound good coming from someone with the squad.

Haven't seen any papers today.  What did Scullion say??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 19, 2013, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 19, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 19, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
TS has a bit much to say for himself on this, he shouldnt be pointing fingers in that kind of way, especially since he wasnt on the first 15. Doesnt sound good coming from someone with the squad.

Haven't seen any papers today.  What did Scullion say??

Tony Scullion says Antrim fans who paid into Casement Park on Saturday should be refunded.

The Saffrons failed to get out of first gear as they were comfortably defeated by Roscommon and Scullion - who was omitted from the starting XV - had a bird's eye view of the action for most of the first half as he sat on the bench:

"It's been a long time since I got to sit and watch a first half like that,"

"I can tell you, anybody that paid into that deserves their money back. It was totally abysmal.

"Sometimes, it's hard to judge when you're playing as you don't know how good or bad some matches are, but I can safely say it's the worst I've watched.

"To sit and watch that was very frustrating. That was a promotion game for us - now we're facing relegation. It's back to the drawing board for a whole lot of people.

"It's Division Three football and we're playing as if it was Division Four football. It's very hard to comprehend and it's frustrating more than anything."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
Minors lose very heavily in first league game - I think we managed to score two points all night. No respite there then as our performances at minor level in recent years goes from bad to worse.

Under 21`s turn tonight. Hearing that Martin Johnston has made himself available. That's a noble gesture under difficult circumstances.

We need a performance tonight to lift the gloom. With Derry providing the opposition we shouldn't need any further motivation!

Question to test your knowledge. When was the last time we won an Under twenty one championship game??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 20, 2013, 10:45:19 AM
2008?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2013, 11:18:47 AM
A bit longer than that unfortunately - 2006 we beat Fermanagh by 12 points. I would be fairly certain we haven't won a championship match since. Hopefully tonight will end that barren spell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 20, 2013, 11:37:16 AM
You are right - I think I remember now who was managing that team.....and we were unlucky to lose the semi final to Tyrone. That was a good crop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
Surely we have a decent squad, Lamhs must be strong at this level and Creggan have been going great guns, the Johnnies? I know we are poor enough at this level but would supply at least 1/2 players.

Squad named?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2013, 11:49:48 AM
We had a decent enough team a few years back - Ryan Murray was playing and I think it was the year Lamh Dhearg won ulster.

We got beat by Tyrone in the 1st round. Tyrone went on to win the AI. I think that team would have beat a lot in Ulster - just got a bad draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2013, 12:21:37 PM
I have talked that 06 episode to death over the years Brendan, but it still rankles so badly that we wasted our best ever chance of an all Ireland title with a lot of shenanigans behind the scenes that left a lot to be desired. No-one really believed in that team at the time, especially not the admin of the day who simply didn't believe we had enough quality in our midst to do something like that.

Mick, Locky and Niblock have all represented Ulster since then, and then throw in Tomas, Andy Mc Clean, and Paddy Cunningham.  Paddy Carey, Declan O Hagan and Michael Pollock have all also represented the county seniors since then, and of course CJ and Justy weren't available for reasons previously well documented.

Then throw in Paul Gribbon (Paul Veronica) who needs no introduction and two excellent players that have slipped through the net, but were class acts at that time - as good as any of the others - Conor Mc Goldrick and David Mc Alernon - who but for circumstances would have definitely made the breakthrough at senior level too.

To be remembered for all time as the one that got away.

This years group is decent and I would expect half a dozen of them to make the step up in the next few years - but I greatly fear that we might not see a group like 06 again any time soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 20, 2013, 02:59:44 PM
Team for sunday from what ive seen so far, and what is a must win game or we are back to the dark days of div 4 football. need a big turnout to help get the lads over the line, last saturdays crowd was embarrassing as was the onfield performance.

kerr
KOBO
mc lean
delargy
scullion
crozier
healy
carland
mcveigh
murray
niblock if fit? kelly
brendan herron
tomas
pollock
ryan murray
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2013, 03:04:42 PM
03 v Armagh was last U-21 win before that. Dunno when time before that was.

As for Minor--beat Donegal in 2010

Won 2 games in 06 --other than that 1998 for last win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Was that minor win not in 2011 Gold. Kevin Quinn got a couple of goals that day. Cavan beat us in Newry after that.

In 06 we just got one win, before Tyrone beat us 0-13 to 0-11 in Omagh in the SF. Tyrone lost the AIF in extra time I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 20, 2013, 03:28:09 PM
you should know bannside you managed that team in 06?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2013, 04:04:04 PM
Mayo beat Cork in 06 by 2 points in the final.

Tyrone lost by 1 poin AET in the semis...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
Good call ITG. Pretty sure then that the winners Mayo beat Tyrone after ET in the semis.

For the record Simon I managed the team in 04, when we lost by three points in Crossmaglen to an Armagh team that went all the way. We went out without two injured (Paul Doherty and Stephen O Connell) plus Karl Stewart and Michael Magill who was hurling that year. I believe we could have beaten them with a full team. Considering they won the All-Ireland it goes to show that Antrim was actually producing great quality footballers through the under-age system.

Mickey Culbert was the manager in 05 and 06 - as the responsibility lay with the county senior manager. Along with others I had a backroom role.

Be great to see something positive again at this very important age-group. Good luck to Fitzy and all involved tonight.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2013, 05:36:37 PM
We haven't been too bad at underage but I guess where it's all going is the question. I recall going to the sigerson weekend the year Mick McCann, Micky Herron, Paddy Cunningham and James Loughrey were playing(maybe more too) and thinking our players looked as decent as any other counties.

My view is that 2 issues we have never had the personnel to resolve, Kevin Niblock aside, is the half forward line and a decent target man in full forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 20, 2013, 10:51:37 PM
Poor, freezing cold shite tonight.

Gave away 2 unforced goals when 0-3 to 0-00 up after 10 mins. Kicked ball across our own square to Derry FF.

If we stayed ahead we had a chance. Heads then dropped as usual.

I'm never goin back

Pish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 21, 2013, 08:47:25 AM
Antrim football is in a terrible state at the minute, saturday was a shambles from the seniors and last night was just embarrassing. I dont know what the under 21 management were telling the players, if the corner back o neill had have been more concerned with marking his man properly instead of hitting off the ball then maybe he wouldnt have gifted the ball to the no14 when antrim were in pole position. im a proud johnnies man and expect big things from our young lads but young mc bride wasnt at the races and paddy nugents position as goalkeeper is safe for another few years as young allsopp wasnt great either. Declan lynch kept kicking the ball away. Christy sherrin, carron, bradley and gallagher were our stand out players. i dont know if i could face sunday after these past two matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 21, 2013, 09:36:20 AM
And our minors lost 1.17 to 0.2 on Tuesday v Tyrone.

:-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 21, 2013, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 21, 2013, 08:47:25 AM
Antrim football is in a terrible state at the minute, saturday was a shambles from the seniors and last night was just embarrassing. I dont know what the under 21 management were telling the players, if the corner back o neill had have been more concerned with marking his man properly instead of hitting off the ball then maybe he wouldnt have gifted the ball to the no14 when antrim were in pole position. im a proud johnnies man and expect big things from our young lads but young mc bride wasnt at the races and paddy nugents position as goalkeeper is safe for another few years as young allsopp wasnt great either. Declan lynch kept kicking the ball away. Christy sherrin, carron, bradley and gallagher were our stand out players. i dont know if i could face sunday after these past two matches.

That keeper was only brought onto the panel 2 weeks ago, totally shafting the other keeper who'd been there all year. Then didnt cover himself in glory. That sorta crap happened and has done for years in Antrim (other than with Baker).

Questionable management decisions. McBride is not a half forward. Trying to fit certain players into his team by moving players to unnatural positions.

Baker is the biggest loss of all i think.

Loughrey, McCann, Sean Kelly, Aidso, McGourty, Terry O'Neill. Men in their prime not playing. Not good.

Dont think i can watch Meath game on Sunday but if i dont go who will?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 21, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
Gold, couldnt agree more fella. Baker done a great job when the dust has settled, the support at the minute is dreadful. what do you think the team should be on sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2013, 10:50:14 AM
Some valid points but what does Baker have to do with anything? He couldnt have done anything at all about Sean Kelly, Aidso, Loughrey or Mc Gourty missing. None of those would have been in this year if Baker was still around and Terry had his time.

And why is Micks name on that list Gold. Is he not due back from his self imposed break in a few weeks? Is the fact that he is taking a break in the first place anything to do with the new manager?

On the plus side, (if there are any this week) Marty Johnston and Owen Gallagher could add a bit of beef to the seniors.

With regard to Paddy Mc Bride, I disagree. I think he is a great worker and was really surprised to see him coming off last night.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 11:18:35 AM
Baker instilled belief in the team. He did well to a point but he stayed about a year or two too long. People may look back at beating Galway last year like it was a great dawn for antrim football - it was a woeful galway team and was as bad a game of football as you will ever see. We were very poor last year.

There's only so long you can play with 14 or so players beind the ball.

Competing with Kerry, getting to an ulster final and drawing with kildare were his highlights but they were all a few years ago.

People don't seem to be giving Dawson a chance just yet. Ultimately as bannside says he can do nothing about these players not bing there and it's not his fault. It could be argued that Baker has a good bit to do with some of them not being there.  I think Baker brought us on and he deserves great credit for that but he fell out with a lot of ones too and his last year or two weren't great.

We are where we are. There are better footballers than last saturday suggested but a win is required against meath. Really don't want to go back to division 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2013, 12:05:26 PM
Thats a great post ITG and I agree with every word of it.

Heres what everyone MUST remember. A whole entire period was spent asking clubs to nominate a manager, or individuals to come forward. Most clubs never bothered their holes even discussing the matter. A couple of names appeared that were credible (Gearoid and FD) and of the two it was considered that FD had a fuller pedigree and real time experience. The feedback the county got back from the three Down clubs FD was with was favourable. This stacked up well with my own inquiries (just out of personal interest and not in any official capacity).

The new manager asked ALL interested players to attend trials. Some so called big names from St Galls did not do so,  had other priorities, or wanted to put hurling or the club first, or got a bad county experience at some stage and were not in any rush to do so. It is possible that due to his own personal knowledge or experience that there were a couple that he did not wish to include on the panel.

There was a good response to trials and a panel was chosen.

In Mc Kenna Cup and early league games it was clear one or two of Bakers so called "regulars" were not going well. Their A game was not present in relation to the much higher standards they had set for themselves. In the course of a few games Tony Scullion, Paddy Cunningham, Mick Mc Cann and others were substituted. Nothing unusual about this - in fact the manager is doing his job properly by being consistent with this.

With Niblock missing due to injury, on top of lots of others we would all love to have in the panel/on the team, the synergy of the team, and the dynamics have shifted in a way thats not been positive.

We need Mick, Paddy and Tony, as well as Sean, Ryan, Doc and Pollock who have also been substituted recently to get back in there with all guns blazing and stop feeling sorry for themselves. To start doing what we know they are all capable of. We`re not knocking any of them. We love to see them doing the business.

Throw in the two Johnstons in due course, hopefully, and possibly Owen Gallagher for their strength. Check out Sweeney - Dublin isnt a mile away. I would have at least three others in there too, but this is not the right place to have their qualities debated for the world to see.

Frank Dawson is too easy a target lads. Its only fair he gets a chance to get his players on the field, in the positions he wants them, and a proper chance to deliver.

For Christs sake we could all use a few missing players back - and I wouldnt be at all surprised to see a radical overhaul of the panel when the league is over.

In the meantime its all about the players on Sunday. There will be time for post mortems later but at the minute there's two important league points at stake.

Come on KOBO lad - get the boys sorted out.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 21, 2013, 12:24:41 PM
Frankie or bannside whatever you prefer, the simple facts are, we are not good enough at the minute and have no system in place that i can see of. We need a style of play that suits us and the players available. i wouldnt be st galls biggest fan but i admire and respect what they've done for antrim football and im pretty sure they didnt attend trials as they were involved in ulster club. we need to be realistic about where we are and what we have, i cant see anything other than a meath win on sunday from what i seen last saturday and with injuries and player unavailable. I hope im proved wrong though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2013, 12:45:27 PM
Funny enough we have a decent record against Meath for some reason. We have no option but to get out and get behind the team on Sunday. If we all throw in the towel now we might as well not turn up.

In a bad place right now, but we have the footballers in the county to turn this round - but maybe take a bit longer that we would have wished for! 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2013, 10:25:44 PM
Team announced for sunday.

Niblock, scullion and cunningham back on. I think from what i see the right changes have been made though i would maybe argue one more but a better balanced team.hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 22, 2013, 12:08:56 AM
I smell 2 points on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 22, 2013, 09:34:26 AM
Just to confirm the team for Sunday (the two Johnstons re-join the panel)

1.  John Finucane (Lamh Dhearg)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin)
3.  Andy McClean (St Gall's)
4.  Sean Finch (O'Donovan Rossa)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)
7.  Anto Healy (St Gall's)

8.  Liam Carland (St Paul's)
9.  Sean McVeigh (Ballymena)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Kevin Niblock (St Gall's)
12.  Brendan Herron (Lamh Dhearg)

13.  Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  Conal Kelly (St John's)
15.  Tomas McCann (Cargin)

16.  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)
17.  Michael Herron (Lamh Dhearg)
18.  James Laverty (Cargin)
19.  Ricky Johnston (Creggan)
20.  Martin Johnston (Creggan)
21.  John Carron (Cargin)
22.  Paddy Kelly (Portglenone)
23.  Michael Pollock (St Gall's)
24.  Dermot McCann (Creggan)
25.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
26.  Peter McNicholl (Ballymena)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 22, 2013, 10:28:33 AM
a very strong bench at our disposal also, if ricky johnson went into corner back for finch, that would be our strongest backline available. did niblock not tear his calf? risk or panic on dawsons behalf, good to have him back. The team has more balance about it now, still a few grey areas which i hope arent found out on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2013, 02:52:03 PM
Definitely a solid look to the team. We know what Ricky can do at corner back, though Marty definitely will be a bit more forward with U-21 training and a few matches under his belt. Both will be good additions and will increase competitiveness for first fifteen jerseys. In the meantime another chance for Sean Finch to show us what he can do.

Its a big game and a win here can completely kick start our season again, and allow the management to concentrate on tidying a few things up and getting geared for the championship. Its a 50/50 game so lets get behind our team from the start.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 25, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
anyone hear when the game is fixed for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 25, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 25, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
anyone hear when the game is fixed for?

Football 1:15pm Sunday, with Offaly hurling match to follow at 3pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 25, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on March 25, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
anyone hear when the game is fixed for?

Football 1:15pm Sunday, with Offaly hurling match to follow at 3pm

And some club fixtures at that time FFS!! I'll miss the game at Casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on March 26, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
anyone else fearing the absolute worst this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 26, 2013, 10:41:07 PM
No. For some undefinable reason I am feeling quite good about this weekend, I think we will win both games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
I have a funny feeling we'll win the football though don't think we'll win the hurling.

That is with my optimistic "absolutely no way can we as bad as the roscommon" hat on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 31, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Latest Meath 1-14 Antrim 0-6.  Antrim down to 14 and probably Div 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 31, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
FT Antrim 0-11 Meath 1-19.  We need a resurrection!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 31, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 27, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
I have a funny feeling we'll win the football though don't think we'll win the hurling.

That is with my optimistic "absolutely no way can we as bad as the roscommon" hat on!
You may throw that hat into the back of the fire!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 07:21:55 PM
Piss poor again. We are going backwards at a rate of knots. Too far into the season to radically change the panel. Could well get slaughtered in Clones next week, relegated, then have to face them in Championship. Depressing enough when you think about it. At a very low ebb. Hopefully can turn it around, don't see how though 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 31, 2013, 08:35:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 08:10:13 PM
First football game I've seen since the Cavan game (where we were poor but grabbed the game by the balls and got over the line).

There are no words......I have no hope........We are in an awful place.
Maybe youse will get Galway again in the qualifiers in july . Chin up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Have been reading this thread especially the discussion re the teams performance under Baker and its performance under Dawson. No doubt that Dawon is down a lot of decent players, but for me another big difference is that Dawson tries to play attacking football, all his teams have over the years, Baker made Antrim play very defensive football, the reason was due to recognising you have very poor forward power, so he went and packed the defense and contained the opposition trying to keep the game tight and low scoring. In summary Dawson needs to go defensive and play the cards he has been dealt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 31, 2013, 10:36:26 PM
So we are playing attacking football and can only score 9 points. What would you expect us to score if we play defensive, 5 maybe 6?. How many games would that win you?. It might stop the opposition scoring as much but won't help our scoring average. You're right though, its all about the hand that dawson was dealt. Not his fault some of the best players in the county aren't available. Look at any other county in ireland and the vast majority of their best players are available, playing and committed. If they weren't then they too would struggle. Unfortunately that is the situation antrim finds itself in. There are players playing for the county that I, and I stress I, wouldn't pick on my club team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 31, 2013, 10:45:17 PM
That is a question that only they can answer. And I never mentioned any clubs or players. Think that applies to more than just one club, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 31, 2013, 10:52:32 PM
I never said anything about those players being able to play for the county though. A difference indeed HS. Again just my opinion, to which you don't agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 31, 2013, 11:03:24 PM
Pointless. Just stating the fact that its not dawsons fault or anyone elses. Its the hand he was dealt and we are doing as best we can. Apologies to the righteous HS. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 01, 2013, 01:29:27 PM
horrendous performance. I have absolutely no idea why FD only had one st galls player on the pitch, they have dominated antrim football for over a decade and been a force in ulster also. some of the players need to take a long hard look at themselves and FD needs to open his eyes and realise 3/4 of that team arent good enough to put the jersey on. Baker had a system in place that played to our strengths, we could have been a bit more attacking but we smothered teams out of it and had big strong men to tackle and get the ball to the runners loughrey, mc cann, scullion, gallagher. Paying in week after week to see that garbage isnt acceptable, he needs to clear out the dead wood. If he is a st galls club man, why hasnt he approached the mc gourtys, kelly, o neill, burke, brady, gallagher, stewart?

yesterdays performance was shocking, up there with the old div 4 days of getting beat by waterford, clare and so on. Not Good enough!!!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 01, 2013, 05:44:04 PM
In fairness simon I think you'll find that all galls men that dawson wanted were asked. Not dawsons fault, as said previous he can only play with those who can commit. We are what we are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 01, 2013, 06:59:56 PM
Simon, I think its common knowledge that most of the player you name ruled themselves out, not the other way around. Certainly Gallagher, Sean Kelly and CJ declared themselves not available. What is the manager supposed to do about that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 01, 2013, 10:46:57 PM
Why are they not not available or why have they not made themselves available?

Is there a club v county issue here?

Not from antrim so don't know if there is any internal politics.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 02, 2013, 12:59:12 PM
Is it just me or as this issue already been discussed once, twice or possibly more?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 04, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
The team to get the win this sunday and keep us in Division 3.

Chris Kerr
Kevin O'Boyle
Andy mc clean if fit / if not Marty Johnston
Ricky Johnston
Tony Scullion
Marty Johnston if mc clean is fit. if not Anto healey
Justin Crozier
Sean Mc Veigh
Brendan Herron
Conor Murray
Kevin Niblock
Tomas Mc Cann
Paddy Cunningham
Michael Pollock
Conall kelly

From what ive seen and the players we have available this is the strongest team we can field. We have nothing to lose and just have to go for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on April 04, 2013, 08:50:45 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on December 11, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
We'll see how good he is.Bet you he won't even make the Cork panel.Heard all these stories before about players  "who could grace any team in Ireland" but when they move they never are heard from again .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2013, 08:57:17 PM
Eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 04, 2013, 08:57:17 PM
Eh?

He (James Loughrey) is a sub this weekend for Cork
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 04, 2013, 09:16:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 04, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 04, 2013, 08:57:17 PM
Eh?

He (James Loughrey) is a sub this weekend for Cork

http://www.gaacork.ie/taggedNews/236283/99/cork_senior_football_team_v_mayo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 04, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
No great surprise,good enough to grace any County team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2013, 09:25:52 PM
Fair play to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 04, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 04, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
No great surprise,good enough to grace any County team

I could not agree more. Hope it goes well for him...more than any other player leaving/not signing up this year it has left a void.
Have always said he is up there...perfectly built for compromise rules but overlooked and plays and seemingly trains like a pro.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 04, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
Well done is right, would love to see how he would get on with players of same calibre and above. Good luck JL.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 05, 2013, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 04, 2013, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 04, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
No great surprise,good enough to grace any County team
Agreed. Super player. Super attitude. Best of luck to him. Short sentences.

I've played and watched some amount of players but never seen a better attitude anywhere than Loughrey's. His loss to us is immeasurable.

Hope it works out for him and hope he puts a Saffron Jersey on him going up the steps to lift Sam (if Cork win the AI)!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 05, 2013, 11:16:14 AM
Please tell me the team in today's irish news isnt the team to play monaghan this week?Has to be a winde up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 05, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: Gold on April 05, 2013, 01:11:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 04, 2013, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 04, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
No great surprise,good enough to grace any County team
Agreed. Super player. Super attitude. Best of luck to him. Short sentences.

I've played and watched some amount of players but never seen a better attitude anywhere than Loughrey's. His loss to us is immeasurable.

Hope it works out for him and hope he puts a Saffron Jersey on him going up the steps to lift Sam (if Cork win the AI)!

He could have taught a few of our "superstars" a thing or two about commitment and attitude.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 05, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
Team in irish news is simon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2013, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 05, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
Team in irish news is simon?

??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 05, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
Simple?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: glens abu on April 05, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
Simple?

Says?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 05, 2013, 11:58:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: glens abu on April 05, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
Simple?

Says?

Stick em up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
1 John Finucane Lamh Dhearg

2 Kevin O Boyle (Capt) Clann na hEireann
3 Martin Johnson Ciceam Creagan
4 Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa

5 Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann
6 Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
7 Dermott Mc Cann Ciceam Creagan

8 Liam Carland Naomh Pol
9 Sean Mc Veigh Naomh Uile

10 Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
11 Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
12 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg

13 Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
14 Conal Kelly Naomh Eoin
15 Tomas Mc Cann Clann na hEireann

Team from antrim.gaa.ie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 05, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
Yes Irish News Page 54
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2013, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
1 John Finucane Lamh Dhearg

2 Kevin O Boyle (Capt) Clann na hEireann
3 Martin Johnson Ciceam Creagan
4 Sean Finch Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa

5 Tony Scullion Clann na hEireann
6 Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
7 Dermott Mc Cann Ciceam Creagan

8 Liam Carland Naomh Pol
9 Sean Mc Veigh Naomh Uile

10 Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
11 Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
12 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg

13 Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
14 Conal Kelly Naomh Eoin
15 Tomas Mc Cann Clann na hEireann

Team from antrim.gaa.ie.



Interesting

Handicap Betting     


Monaghan (-4.0)  6/5 
   
Handicap Draw (-4.0)  9/1 
   
Antrim (+4.0)  5/6 
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2013, 01:58:50 PM
The Irish news says McClean is in full back??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on April 07, 2013, 02:47:23 PM
It gets worse.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 07, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
There's a chance both us and Sligo could go down.  Points difference with Wicklow is now just +7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 07, 2013, 04:17:40 PM
Sligo now leading.  Monaghan 10 up.  Looks like we're bucked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 07, 2013, 04:35:53 PM
Monaghan 3-16 Antrim 0-13 FT.  What will they do to us in the Championship??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on April 08, 2013, 10:24:10 AM
Poor poor result yesterday.  9 weeks to get things back on track - need to address issues asap and move on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 08, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
The last few weeks have been a test for every antrim fan, the performances have been so bad its nearly unbelievable. Rosscommon was bad, meath there was no heart or fight. The game yesterday was horrendous, hearing whispers before the game that dawson had left out tomas mc cann and tony scullion due to them going to their anniversary mass? This is terrible management from dawson and he needs a reality check with that sort of arrogance, im sure the morale was low after the previous games, yesterday was a farce. From making the ulster final in 09, back to back promotions, beating galway last year. All that has been undone with returning to the basement, if we don't get things sorted we could be on the end of a terrible hiding come championship in casement. Only for some last ditch defending and some great saves from the goalkeeper we could have been beat by 20-30 points!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Northern Light on April 08, 2013, 06:01:15 PM
Manballandall,

A brief history lesson about your club men, and their assistance to the County . Having been promoted from Div 4 with limited help from your Club, your colleagues were engaged in their All-Ireland Year. Antrim won the first 5 of the Div 3 games, again without their assistance. Antrim were beaten in the Midlands (was there but can't recall the game). Your lads (after a break) returned to the County fold. We luckily won against a very understrength Louth (with the Gall's men) and were 'tanked' in Wexford (with the Gall's men), being the last two games.  Antrim were destroyed by Sligo in Croke Park, despite the fact that the 'other' Antrim team had beaten them during the league. Not surprisingly, a number of the 'team' that had got us promotion from Div 4, and had won the first 5 matches in Div 3, but had been 'dumped' in favour of the Gall's men, 'walked'! Not a great builder of team spirit! The Gall's 'Antrim team' played in Div 2, winning only one game (I believe) and gradually, as the season went on, and the defeats mounted, they suffered a lot of' injuries', 'holidays' and then 'retirements'. The remaining Gall's men (and indeed others) had a lot of holiday commitments last year, so weren't able to play all the league games, and had a few problems with getting to C'ship games. Baker learned that Gall's are a great club side, but they don't have the mental attitude to be Inter-County Footballers. Unfortunately he discovered it too late, and that legacy remains. The Gall's men remaining in the team this year are 'sound' and like the other players deserve a manager who knows about football. They don't deserve suggestions of this nature.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 08, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Was it something he said......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 08, 2013, 11:28:20 PM
Apologies northern right, sorry light. You're right sure they doing great now without galls men. And since you are so intelligent and well educated re read my post, I never once mentioned about any of my club men should be on the county team. What I did say that was there were people on the county team that I wouldn't, I reiterate for you, I wouldn't pick on my club team. I stand by that statement as it is my opinion. I also went on to say that this was neither the players nor managers fault and it was just the hand we were currently dealt. I see you hasten to mention the many galls men who served our county well without any success. Of course there is the exceptions and I would suggest we could come up with a few names who maybe didn't do themselves or the county justice but were they alone and I would aso suggest that the majority of the galls players who served our county did so with pride and heart and owe our county nothing. Not a fan of my club then. Sorry about that :). Oh one last point. When st galls players returned to the county was it also their fault that players were dropped?. Laughable really. Wind yer neck in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 09, 2013, 09:16:12 AM
I take it someone has left the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2013, 09:17:41 AM
Quote from: Northern Light on April 08, 2013, 06:01:15 PM
Manballandall,

A brief history lesson about your club men, and their assistance to the County . Having been promoted from Div 4 with limited help from your Club, your colleagues were engaged in their All-Ireland Year. Antrim won the first 5 of the Div 3 games, again without their assistance. Antrim were beaten in the Midlands (was there but can't recall the game). Your lads (after a break) returned to the County fold. We luckily won against a very understrength Louth (with the Gall's men) and were 'tanked' in Wexford (with the Gall's men), being the last two games.  Antrim were destroyed by Sligo in Croke Park, despite the fact that the 'other' Antrim team had beaten them during the league. Not surprisingly, a number of the 'team' that had got us promotion from Div 4, and had won the first 5 matches in Div 3, but had been 'dumped' in favour of the Gall's men, 'walked'! Not a great builder of team spirit! The Gall's 'Antrim team' played in Div 2, winning only one game (I believe) and gradually, as the season went on, and the defeats mounted, they suffered a lot of' injuries', 'holidays' and then 'retirements'. The remaining Gall's men (and indeed others) had a lot of holiday commitments last year, so weren't able to play all the league games, and had a few problems with getting to C'ship games. Baker learned that Gall's are a great club side, but they don't have the mental attitude to be Inter-County Footballers. Unfortunately he discovered it too late, and that legacy remains. The Gall's men remaining in the team this year are 'sound' and like the other players deserve a manager who knows about football. They don't deserve suggestions of this nature.

Are you slimshady in disguise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2013, 09:21:49 AM
Who or what is on the back page of the irish news??

Northern Light that is a pathetically petty post. You sound like the kind of boy who'd take pleasure out of your own county getting relegated - gives you a chance to spout shite like this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 11:08:35 AM
Glens its a bit harsh on mc gourty we could do with him and his brother at the minute if were honest, and to be honest i agree with the players in this situation, what was wrong with tomas and tony meeting the team at the four seasons?
Northern Light thats a bit much and an attack on st galls, the exact same thing happens in armagh with crossmaglen and the county team. It wasnt their fault they had success with their club and baker recognised that they are the best players in antrim and put them back into the team.
The bottom line is, we are in a bad state of affairs at the minute and if tomas, tony and michael arent going to be available then we need to try and get the best out of the players we have or try hard to get some of these st galls players back on board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 11:30:12 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 11:08:35 AM
Glens its a bit harsh on mc gourty we could do with him and his brother at the minute if were honest, and to be honest i agree with the players in this situation, what was wrong with tomas and tony meeting the team at the four seasons?
Northern Light thats a bit much and an attack on st galls, the exact same thing happens in armagh with crossmaglen and the county team. It wasnt their fault they had success with their club and baker recognised that they are the best players in antrim and put them back into the team.
The bottom line is, we are in a bad state of affairs at the minute and if tomas, tony and michael arent going to be available then we need to try and get the best out of the players we have or try hard to get some of these st galls players back on board.

Don't get me wrong Simon I would love to have committed McGourtys and McCanns playing for Antrim,but just think we now have to move on without them and hope we can find enough county players with commitment who can get us out of the mess we are now in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
I wionder will northern light now turn his attention to the toome boys for someone to blame...ummm one wonders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2013, 09:21:49 AM
Who or what is on the back page of the irish news??

Northern Light that is a pathetically petty post. You sound like the kind of boy who'd take pleasure out of your own county getting relegated - gives you a chance to spout shite like this.
Apparently Scullion and McCann were dropped from the Monaghan match as they had to attend an anniversary mass that morning and told Dawson they would drive down and meet them for breakfast in the Hillgrove/Four Seasons. Looked like they would be missing nothing other than a bus trip from Randalstown to Monaghan. Dawson told them (allegedly) if they went to the mass they would no longer be in his plans.

Seems unduly harsh from Dawson if that was the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2013, 09:21:49 AM
Who or what is on the back page of the irish news??

Northern Light that is a pathetically petty post. You sound like the kind of boy who'd take pleasure out of your own county getting relegated - gives you a chance to spout shite like this.
Apparently Scullion and McCann were dropped from the Monaghan match as they had to attend an anniversary mass that morning and told Dawson they would drive down and meet them for breakfast in the Hillgrove/Four Seasons. Looked like they would be missing nothing other than a bus trip from Randalstown to Monaghan. Dawson told them (allegedly) if they went to the mass they would no longer be in his plans.

Seems unduly harsh from Dawson if that was the case.

think there are two sides to every story,hope we can now hear Dawsons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2013, 01:45:08 PM
If true its utter madness from Dawson. It nearly appears too unrealistic to be the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Very easy to do that on here hiding behind your Pseudonym
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Very easy to do that on here hiding behind your Pseudonym

No problem coming out if you are up for it,sure what could McGourty do isn't he nearly in a wheelchair. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Very easy to do that on here hiding behind your Pseudonym

No problem coming out if you are up for it,sure what could McGourty do isn't he nearly in a wheelchair. ::)
No difference to me whether you come out or not as it is not me you are spouting off about....just saying its very easy to spout off when no one knows who you are...at keast when mc gourty says his bit we all know who is saying it...i guess thats one he has over you ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Very easy to do that on here hiding behind your Pseudonym

No problem coming out if you are up for it,sure what could McGourty do isn't he nearly in a wheelchair. ::)
No difference to me whether you come out or not as it is not me you are spouting off about....just saying its very easy to spout off when no one knows who you are...at keast when mc gourty says his bit we all know who is saying it...i guess thats one he has over you ;)

Well you shouldn't believe all he tells you about his near death experience with a wheelchair,as he is on twitter telling Dawson he was ready for a call up ;D,and this morning he was heading out for a drive in the wheelchair,sorry for a run. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on April 09, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
Don't think T McCann or Tony Scullion's commitment can be called into question. Tomas flew to London early the next morning of his wedding last year. Scullion has given eight years service. Think Dawson is totally out of line on this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Very easy to do that on here hiding behind your Pseudonym

No problem coming out if you are up for it,sure what could McGourty do isn't he nearly in a wheelchair. ::)
No difference to me whether you come out or not as it is not me you are spouting off about....just saying its very easy to spout off when no one knows who you are...at keast when mc gourty says his bit we all know who is saying it...i guess thats one he has over you ;)

Well you shouldn't believe all he tells you about his near death experience with a wheelchair,as he is on twitter telling Dawson he was ready for a call up ;D,and this morning he was heading out for a drive in the wheelchair,sorry for a run. 8)
Talk about contradicting yourself...spout off about mc gourty talking nonsense yet you believe what you have read on twitter and by him...You are following the same guy you said talks nonsense on twitter. ummm who is full of nonsense. make your mind up glens man lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2013, 03:33:42 PM
fight fight fight fight!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

Very good that's a new one for him to cry about in the rock.I know he will never play for the county again and for all the good he ever did for them he would have been as well never playing for them at all.I have as much a right to have an opinion on Kevin McGourty as anyone else,sure he likes expressing his so sorry to disappoint. I will continue to spout my mouth off as often as I wish and if he had to give up county football because of some life threatening injury :-[ I can assure you he would have been phoning every newspaper in the country to tell his story in the hope he could get elected for FF,oops sorry forgot they dumped him as well. ;)
Very easy to do that on here hiding behind your Pseudonym

No problem coming out if you are up for it,sure what could McGourty do isn't he nearly in a wheelchair. ::)
No difference to me whether you come out or not as it is not me you are spouting off about....just saying its very easy to spout off when no one knows who you are...at keast when mc gourty says his bit we all know who is saying it...i guess thats one he has over you ;)

Well you shouldn't believe all he tells you about his near death experience with a wheelchair,as he is on twitter telling Dawson he was ready for a call up ;D,and this morning he was heading out for a drive in the wheelchair,sorry for a run. 8)
Talk about contradicting yourself...spout off about mc gourty talking nonsense yet you believe what you have read on twitter and by him...You are following the same guy you said talks nonsense on twitter. ummm who is full of nonsense. make your mind up glens man lol

Now what did I tell you about believing everything you read then putting your own slant on it.I hav e more to do with my life than follow a clown like that on twitter.He is talking that much nonsense in the rock and on twitter he is the laughing stock of the Road and everyone is having t he craic at his expense.Now you are not helping him telling stories about wheelchairs when he is trying to get back on the county panel for the tenth time. ;)Good luck with that life threatening injury and keep that wheelchair between the bushes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2013, 03:33:42 PM
fight fight fight fight!!

Now Milltown you know it's no fight,just winding these boys up lol,and it's fairly easy ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 09, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
Embarrassing stuff all round really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 09, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
Embarrassing stuff all round really

Agree alright he should have more wit. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on April 09, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
Its hard to question both McCann and Scullion's commitment to Antrim, as its been 100%, being 2 of our most consistent players. But from what I've heard of Dawson he's been fairly reasonable with players and personal issues etc.. So its hard no to think that theres more to the story, seems pretty bizzare!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 10, 2013, 01:25:05 PM
So the county board, have defended dawson, i take this as tomas and tony wont be available for championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 10, 2013, 02:01:17 PM
Had heard that prior to this, some had approached the CB about Dawsons management tenure !?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 10, 2013, 02:23:24 PM
Simon - I don't think that's necessarily a correct inference to make.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2013, 03:34:40 PM
A messy and deeply frustrating time for anyone involved in the best interests of Antrim Football. There is a core of genuine dedicated followers who really thought we had seen the end of division four for good. There is another extended group of followers who come out on the sunny days, and they too expect better, much better, than what they have been getting.

There are three parties to this, and each has a key role to play in getting us out of this quagmire. The County management committee must know that what we are being served is simply not anywhere near good enough. They should have the capacity and the resolve to deliver better.

The players who have made simple mistakes, experienced defenders who gifted goals which coat us vital points. Free takers who missed easy frees that also would have won us a point in a game that ended in a draw, (which would have kept us up) or players who consistently fail to safely deliver 30 yard foot passes which is "bread and butter" for inter-county players. These mistakes are not acceptable at this level. No one can blame the management for that.

The management simply must put its hands up too and get to the root of why players are not performing to their ability. Why are so many complaining about "confidence" issues. Why is the support play so dismal. What has been done to get players back into the squad that are tried and tested at this level. Those are questions I would expect any manager to ask himself.

That's three parties than can play a big part in sorting this mess out. Each one should look in the mirror before passing responsibility. By self electing to perform at this level there is a requirement to do so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on April 10, 2013, 03:38:10 PM
Frank Dawson has lost the respect of the players - im sure many of you are hearing it.  He had a meeting with chairman last night.
Be interesting to hear the outcome.  General consensus is get him out.  Its been a miserable year - do we continue to possibly the worst championship defeat is decades?
The players are not there esp losing the two mccanns and scullion - the weakest and most inexperienced team for long and many a day and by god it showing on the score.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2013, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: otbar on April 10, 2013, 03:38:10 PM
Frank Dawson has lost the respect of the players - im sure many of you are hearing it.  He had a meeting with chairman last night.
Be interesting to hear the outcome.  General consensus is get him out.  Its been a miserable year - do we continue to possibly the worst championship defeat is decades?
The players are not there esp losing the two mccanns and scullion - the weakest and most inexperienced team for long and many a day and by god it showing on the score.

5 months!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on April 10, 2013, 04:12:50 PM
Well if this damage is done in 5 months just imagine what a year would cause.  I understand that he is a fellow clubman but its black and white.
Tell me are you content for this to progress like this or a good shake up is required?  Dawson is out of his depth - he took a Burren team that had two
fantastic u21's team and in turn could of managed itself.  This is not a personal attack on the man but if you put yourself in the role then you have to take the rough with the smooth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 10, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: otbar on April 10, 2013, 03:38:10 PM
Frank Dawson has lost the respect of the players - im sure many of you are hearing it.  He had a meeting with chairman last night.
Be interesting to hear the outcome.  General consensus is get him out.  Its been a miserable year - do we continue to possibly the worst championship defeat is decades?
The players are not there esp losing the two mccanns and scullion - the weakest and most inexperienced team for long and many a day and by god it showing on the score.
Does your comment highlighted above not say it all ?....this is hardly dawsons doing. He is doing his best with the hand that he was dealt. Do you really believe it is his managerial skills that have led to our downfall?....do you think another manager would have better success?. Woulod bringing another manager innow ensure success in the championship....Is it a case of players dictating again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2013, 04:18:49 PM
That's too broad a stroke Otbar. In fact some of the players I have spoken to recently are totally fine with him, including some of the more experienced players. That's not to say there isn't a lot of negativity about, and yes, there are some players who haven't had a great experience during FD`s tenure to date.

We had three goal chances in the last 15 minutes away to Sligo. I would have expected at least one or two of them to have been finished off. Don't start me on Wicklow. And while we could have lost to Fermanagh, we missed enough chances to win three games.

If ONE of those chances had been converted, we would not be having this digital conversation.This needs to have some balance. Some of the players need to look in their own mirror before passing the buck. That's far too easy.

Give me a player who find faults with the management, and then put that players own "form" up for discussion. That would be the fair way to do this. You`ll maybe find there are not too many volunteers!!!

And to be fair to FD he hasn't once come out and blamed the players, or those who walked away, or those who didn't come to the trials at all.

He has had a nightmare of a start though, and the true test of his management will be IF he can turn this debacle into some kind of worthwhile performance against Monaghan in 8 weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 10, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
He needs to get himself to club games the next few weeks and bring in replacements, the hunger, work rate isnt there! it is a disgrace! He needs to try and coax a few of his club mates back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on April 10, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
FD cant be blamed for everything! Two midfielders who couldn't time a jump against Meath, shocking finishing against Sligo, half backs who push up the field looking for scores and cant be bothered to get back! Players carry a lot of the responsibility for the last few games. Loughrey, Sweeny and Micks absence really has shown up alot of our other players as even more mediocre than already thought. Always found FD to be a very approachable and level headed guy so really cant understand what has happened with the TS and Tomas affair, there must be more to that story than the Irish Snooze related.
There is no magic wand that is going to turn this team around. Antrim produced very little in the way of quality players in the last 6/7 years and by the displays of our U21 and minor teams recently that is not going to change, but to knee jerk and dismiss a manager of Fd experience a few months into his tenure would be madness. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 10, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
Lets blame one man who lives in Carryduff and has coached in Down for many many years for the fact that the Antrim players who have decided to commit lack the basic skills of the game ( I include work rate in that) to enable them to play to the level that the fans expect them to.  :-\

Shit coaching and lack of drive within clubs/gaa communities up and down the county is where these problems stem from. Some honesty please. We are a county of complete bluffers.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 10, 2013, 08:46:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 10, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
Lets blame one man who lives in Carryduff and has coached in Down for many many years for the fact that the Antrim players who have decided to commit lack the basic skills of the game ( I include work rate in that) to enable them to play to the level that the fans expect them to.  :-\

Shit coaching and lack of drive within clubs/gaa communities up and down the county is where these problems stem from. Some honesty please. We are a county of complete bluffers.

Spot on, its a long held tradition in Antrim, both codes, when things arent going well for the players to start putting "whispers" out that he has "lost the dressing room", a word with a favourite journalist etc. We have all seen it over and over again.

None of them have the self awareness or balls to maybe take a look in the mirror at what they are doing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 10, 2013, 10:38:44 PM
To be clearer....shit coaching happens when too few adults decide to do their bit and leave an interested few to struggle. Same applies to administration. Those who pay lip service are full of opinions that suit their lifestyle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 03:40:43 PM
According to twitter Tony Scullion has left the panel. :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 11, 2013, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 10, 2013, 10:38:44 PM
To be clearer....shit coaching happens when too few adults decide to do their bit and leave an interested few to struggle. Same applies to administration. Those who pay lip service are full of opinions that suit their lifestyle

Same applies to most things in life and its those who do most of the complaining who contribute nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on April 11, 2013, 06:40:54 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/22112045?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Don't know what to make of this...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on April 11, 2013, 06:51:41 PM
Although CAP just posted on Twitter that the rumours are false and he hasn't walked..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
If it's not true then where did the bbc concoct those quotes from??

Mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
If it's not true then where did the bbc concoct those quotes from??

Mess.

No big loss really, he runs all day and tries his heart out but limited footballer in my opinion, wins ball and runs with it down the wing and usually gives it away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 07:46:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
If it's not true then where did the bbc concoct those quotes from??

Mess.

No big loss really, he runs all day and tries his heart out but limited footballer in my opinion, wins ball and runs with it down the wing and usually gives it away

He's a big loss with what we have at our disposal. He's one of very few who can actually break a tackle. Looks like bs anyway so neither here nor there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
Its obvious there are issues which have to be sorted out. This starts with a willingness to do so - so if both parties really want the players to be on the pitch against Monaghan, then they will find a way of resolving this. Looks like a monumental break down in communication.

Tomas was coming into great form, and personally I thought Tony Scullion had a great year for us last year. His long runs were welcome, he was breaking tackles, and his passes were mostly long diagonal balls which were well placed. He has still more to offer at 30, so hopefully we haven't seen the last of him.

And if he isn't for returning, then I don't think it should be open season for every digital whizzkid to run him down, especially after the service he has given. Best to wait for a few days to see how this settles.

On his best known form Mick is a huge loss too. As a county we simply need them all in and around the squad, providing leadership and experience and most of all - doing what they do best!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
Its obvious there are issues which have to be sorted out. This starts with a willingness to do so - so if both parties really want the players to be on the pitch against Monaghan, then they will find a way of resolving this. Looks like a monumental break down in communication.

Tomas was coming into great form, and personally I thought Tony Scullion had a great year for us last year. His long runs were welcome, he was breaking tackles, and his passes were mostly long diagonal balls which were well placed. He has still more to offer at 30, so hopefully we haven't seen the last of him.

And if he isn't for returning, then I don't think it should be open season for every digital whizzkid to run him down, especially after the service he has given. Best to wait for a few days to see how this settles.

On his best known form Mick is a huge loss too. As a county we simply need them all in and around the squad, providing leadership and experience and most of all - doing what they do best!

I do see the talent in both Mick and Tomas brilliant players for club and county, but never really got that from Tony, ran down blind alleys too much for me. Not knocking his commitment over the years for Antrim, it's a hard thankless task but for a player in that position nowadays they need to be of the Loughery type/fold
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Agree totally about Locky MR2. He was probably the best half back we have ever produced. Unfortunately every number 7 for the next decade will be compared to him.

On a more positive note I was in Cookstown last night to see our minors pull off their second win on the trot. A decent enough performance too. Good to see a few victories at this level, as I really feared the worst after the mauling they got from Tyrone in the first match.

Would expect a few of these lads to make the step in in a few years. Two Mallon`s from St Teresas looking the part, and two Rauiri`s (Scott and McCann) shaping up nicely as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Agree totally about Locky MR2. He was probably the best half back we have ever produced. Unfortunately every number 7 for the next decade will be compared to him.

On a more positive note I was in Cookstown last night to see our minors pull off their second win on the trot. A decent enough performance too. Good to see a few victories at this level, as I really feared the worst after the mauling they got from Tyrone in the first match.

Would expect a few of these lads to make the step in in a few years. Two Mallon`s from St Teresas looking the part, and two Rauiri`s (Scott and McCann) shaping up nicely as well.

Who have we beaten?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 11, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Agree totally about Locky MR2. He was probably the best half back we have ever produced. Unfortunately every number 7 for the next decade will be compared to him.

On a more positive note I was in Cookstown last night to see our minors pull off their second win on the trot. A decent enough performance too. Good to see a few victories at this level, as I really feared the worst after the mauling they got from Tyrone in the first match.

Would expect a few of these lads to make the step in in a few years. Two Mallon`s from St Teresas looking the part, and two Rauiri`s (Scott and McCann) shaping up nicely as well.

Who have we beaten?

Derry and Fermanagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on April 12, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 11, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Agree totally about Locky MR2. He was probably the best half back we have ever produced. Unfortunately every number 7 for the next decade will be compared to him.

On a more positive note I was in Cookstown last night to see our minors pull off their second win on the trot. A decent enough performance too. Good to see a few victories at this level, as I really feared the worst after the mauling they got from Tyrone in the first match.

Would expect a few of these lads to make the step in in a few years. Two Mallon`s from St Teresas looking the part, and two Rauiri`s (Scott and McCann) shaping up nicely as well.

Who have we beaten?

Derry and Fermanagh

I would not just cream the pants yet, Derry were missing 16 players from the St Pats Maghera panel who play in the Hogan final, and they have been absent the entire minor league, there are only 4 player from the St Pats team that are not available for the minor team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 12, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on April 12, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 11, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Agree totally about Locky MR2. He was probably the best half back we have ever produced. Unfortunately every number 7 for the next decade will be compared to him.

On a more positive note I was in Cookstown last night to see our minors pull off their second win on the trot. A decent enough performance too. Good to see a few victories at this level, as I really feared the worst after the mauling they got from Tyrone in the first match.

Would expect a few of these lads to make the step in in a few years. Two Mallon`s from St Teresas looking the part, and two Rauiri`s (Scott and McCann) shaping up nicely as well.

Who have we beaten?

Derry and Fermanagh

I would not just cream the pants yet, Derry were missing 16 players from the St Pats Maghera panel who play in the Hogan final, and they have been absent the entire minor league, there are only 4 player from the St Pats team that are available for the minor team

And Fermanagh are useless at underage.

Scoring 2 points v Tyrone tells us all we need to know. Didnt score in 2nd half of champ v Monaghan last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 12, 2013, 12:20:56 PM
Shame on the Irish News - irresponsible journalism once again, and at Antrims expense!  The laughing stock of Ulster Football!  Jimmy McGuiness came in and sorted out the sh*te talk in Donegal, look what they did!

Couple of points -

1. how dare Tony Scullion feel he can drag this out in the media and rally support to have Dawson sacked! (cause lads, thats all this is).

2. How dare the Irish News further exploit an already damaged county by publishing it!

3. To those who wrote into 'off the fence' - take a look at youreselves!!  Ken McGrath said to our hurlers recently that to win anything at this level your lives are put on hold - simple!

4. Think Dawson is doing a below average job to say the least - perhaps the washing is beginning to show why though!  That said - i would have made the same decision in his shoes!

Until Antrim stop talking sh*te using pathetic excuses - this will remain!

I commend Dawson for stepping up - about time - no one else has!  You never know, it might just work - long term!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 12, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
we are better than usual this year.
Fermanagh have beaten Donegal and gave Tyrone a good game by all accounts.
Fermanagh played nearly a completely different 15 to the team that were beaten by Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 12, 2013, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 12, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
we are better than usual this year.Fermanagh have beaten Donegal and gave Tyrone a good game by all accounts.
Fermanagh played nearly a completely different 15 to the team that were beaten by Tyrone

Fair point sure what would i know. Apologies.

At least you have people training at McCrory standard. We've far more boys but none playing McCrory (other than a few in Derry Schools) as St Mary's have dropped back down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 12, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
Have to agree Dearyme (who would have thought you'd ever be right). Its very easy to criticise and antrim players haven't earned the right to have egos like other counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 13, 2013, 02:24:57 PM
Minors were leading Donegal by four points at half time, but ended up losing 1-07 to 1-04. That's two wins and two losses in the minor league. Probably a shield play off place awaits.

The next few days will probably see Frank Dawson bat the ball back into the "Cargin Three" court and include them all in his championship panel. Will they accept or decline? This things not fully played out yet. Hopefully all three will be back in doing their stuff - but I wouldn't be too optimistic about it!

Interesting to see what new faces are added. Sean Burke/Owen Gallagher for a bit more bulk to match Monaghans physicality around the middle???? Also I like the way Michael Mc Carry has developed. Should definitely be in there somewhere too in my book.

You know we have the players to take the game to Monaghan at Casement. 8 good weeks can see a big difference IF we get the right personnel on the pitch, knowing each others game, and playing with confidence. Nothing to lose is a great position to go into the championship.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 15, 2013, 02:33:47 PM
What you think of the first round of results in Div1?

Ciceam an Creagán 1-12 1-3 St Ergnat's Moneyglass
Naomh Gall 4-14 2-4 Naomh Pól CLG
Naomh Seamas 0-7 1-8 St John's GAC
Clan na hEireann Carragan 2-15 0-3 O`Donovan Rossa GAC
St Bridgid's Belfast 0-5 4-15 Lamh Dhearg

Galls, Cargin and LD look strong and like the only 3 champnionship contenders. Well Galls, then the other 2.

St Brigids, without Loughrey, Dara Edwards and Sweeney could be in serious trouble. Rossa, Moneyglass and St Pauls (poor scoring returns of only 3 and 4 points) are in trouble too. Will be a fight between those 4 and Aldergrove to avoid the drop

Top 3 are far in front followed by Creggan, then Johns i think.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 02:50:30 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Aldergrove do. They ran st johns tight enough.

Looks like st galls, cargin, lamh dhearg, maybe to a lesser extent creggan / st johns and then a fight between the rest of them for points most likely of each other.

Big beating fo st brigids who you'd have to imagine would struggle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 15, 2013, 03:05:17 PM
Big scoring from lambs and with a big representative on the county panel/team must be early favourites for championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 16, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
They will fancy themselves big time - and why wouldnt they! 

But why did Seam McKenna up sticks and get outta there?

Surely if theyre that strong and contenders he woulda stayed around? no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 16, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
They have a good front 8 which could cause any team problems, but serious question marks over their back line. id imagine a big crowd on saturday night for the game against cargin. Can anyone beat st galls in this years championship? They dismantled all the so called big teams around them, our game on sunday v aldergrove wasnt great, alot of work to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 03:31:15 PM
All the worrying is over...the season has been salvaged.

Galls boys are back  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 17, 2013, 03:47:01 PM
Who is back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 03:50:29 PM
Quite a few were asked but def back are Kelly, Stewart and O Neill (younger one)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 17, 2013, 03:53:20 PM
gallagher, burke, mc gourtys?

i hear st galls were awesome on sunday against st pauls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on April 17, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
Kelly is definitely a back and Niall O'Neill has played there so yeah

I know what you meant, just messing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2013, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on April 17, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
Kelly is definitely a back and Niall O'Neill has played there so yeah

I know what you meant, just messing

Very good, surprised at Hardstation leaving that one up there ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 17, 2013, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 17, 2013, 03:53:20 PM
gallagher, burke, mc gourtys?

i hear st galls were awesome on sunday against st pauls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 17, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
Great to hear kelly is back, stewart aswell. I thought burke would have got the call also as we have struggled badly without mc cann around the middle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 17, 2013, 04:40:42 PM
Sean Kelly is Sean Kelly, Karl is a great option up front, will always try and take a score. Niall O'Neill coming on leaps and bounds..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 17, 2013, 05:01:30 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 03:50:29 PM
Quite a few were asked but def back are Kelly, Stewart and O Neill (younger one)

Stewart playing football and not hurling?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 17, 2013, 06:21:56 PM
What age is Sean Kelly now??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
Karl is apparently concentrating on football this year. Couldn't commit to club or county hurling due to work committments. Great footballer and can't wait to see how he gets on at that level. Always said he was good enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
Age is only a number. Ask MR who played senior hurling last week and had his name in lights too.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 17, 2013, 08:14:31 PM
Seems a strange one, he could not commit to club and county hurlers due to "work commitments" but can commit to club and county footballers, with the same work commitments ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 08:50:05 PM
Different nights :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 18, 2013, 10:54:58 AM
Any more inclusions in the squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on April 18, 2013, 11:02:03 AM
Sweeney's back I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 18, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
Mark Sweeney back in too according to Antrim Twitter feed. Good stuff!

Was hoping Sean Burke would be involved too, but haven't seen or heard his name mentioned. Waiting patiently now to see what the crack is with the Cargin three! Hopefully good sense prevails. Their inclusion would mean there should be real competition for places, and maybe, just maybe, we could expect to really put it up to Monaghan on home soil.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 18, 2013, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
Mark Sweeney back in too according to Antrim Twitter feed. Good stuff!

Was hoping Sean Burke would be involved too, but haven't seen or heard his name mentioned. Waiting patiently now to see what the crack is with the Cargin three! Hopefully good sense prevails. Their inclusion would mean there should be real competition for places, and maybe, just maybe, we could expect to really put it up to Monaghan on home soil.

Could it be possible these players are coming back because the Cargin 3 have gone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 18, 2013, 11:22:25 AM
My team for monaghan would be:

1. Chris Kerr
2. Kevin O boyle
3.Andy Mc Lean
4.Ricky Johnston
5.anto healey
6.Justin Crozier
7.Sean Kelly
8. Sean McVeigh
9.Sean Burke???? if we can get him back.
10. Conor Murray
11.Kevin Niblock
12. Brendan Herron
13Paddy Cunningham
14. Michael Pollock
15. Mark Sweeney

I feel with that team with a home crowd we can really have a go at monaghan and turn them over in casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: glens abu on April 18, 2013, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
Mark Sweeney back in too according to Antrim Twitter feed. Good stuff!

Was hoping Sean Burke would be involved too, but haven't seen or heard his name mentioned. Waiting patiently now to see what the crack is with the Cargin three! Hopefully good sense prevails. Their inclusion would mean there should be real competition for places, and maybe, just maybe, we could expect to really put it up to Monaghan on home soil.

Could it be possible these players are coming back because the Cargin 3 have gone?

Seriously? Over the years the playuers form Cargin and Naomh Gall have always played for the county, they may not pass the ball to each other  :o but they have played together. I'm reading something else into this. The players currently there aren't up to the mark and will get turned over at Casement. is this good to have people coming in when all the hard work has been done? Probably not as it will cause division. Bit of a fcuk up if you ask me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 18, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: glens abu on April 18, 2013, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
Mark Sweeney back in too according to Antrim Twitter feed. Good stuff!

Was hoping Sean Burke would be involved too, but haven't seen or heard his name mentioned. Waiting patiently now to see what the crack is with the Cargin three! Hopefully good sense prevails. Their inclusion would mean there should be real competition for places, and maybe, just maybe, we could expect to really put it up to Monaghan on home soil.

Could it be possible these players are coming back because the Cargin 3 have gone?

Seriously? Over the years the playuers form Cargin and Naomh Gall have always played for the county, they may not pass the ball to each other  :o but they have played together. I'm reading something else into this. The players currently there aren't up to the mark and will get turned over at Casement. is this good to have people coming in when all the hard work has been done? Probably not as it will cause division. Bit of a fcuk up if you ask me

I agree Milltown and know that the two clubs dont get on but was wondering why Kelly esp has come back as every manager has wanted him and he showed no interest.I think its great he is back and just hope we can move forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 18, 2013, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: glens abu on April 18, 2013, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
Mark Sweeney back in too according to Antrim Twitter feed. Good stuff!

Was hoping Sean Burke would be involved too, but haven't seen or heard his name mentioned. Waiting patiently now to see what the crack is with the Cargin three! Hopefully good sense prevails. Their inclusion would mean there should be real competition for places, and maybe, just maybe, we could expect to really put it up to Monaghan on home soil.

Could it be possible these players are coming back because the Cargin 3 have gone?

Seriously? Over the years the playuers form Cargin and Naomh Gall have always played for the county, they may not pass the ball to each other  :o but they have played together. I'm reading something else into this. The players currently there aren't up to the mark and will get turned over at Casement. is this good to have people coming in when all the hard work has been done? Probably not as it will cause division. Bit of a fcuk up if you ask me

Couldnt agree more...this has nothing to do with the cargin 3 apart from the fact that since they have left the squad is a lot weaker and our chances of beating monaghan have considerably decreased so the management was left with no other alternative than to go with cap in hand to make th esquad bigger and stronger. A bit of a fcuk up indeed but this is neither the galls players or the cargins players fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 18, 2013, 10:43:08 PM
Brilliant that Karl's there. One of the few natural forwards we have. Can take a free too and is nerveless.

Kel is a great plus. Fair fucks to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
Saw Yash Armstrong sprinting down the Stewartstown Road today. Recall?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
Saw Yash Armstrong sprinting down the Stewartstown Road today. Recall?

Well he couldn't play any worse than whats been on show lately that's for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on April 19, 2013, 08:16:53 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

I see Kevin is ignoring the medical advice and looking for a recall to the county panel. It must have been a quiet week on the news front, first they ring Bradley and then McGourty, neither ever let them down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 19, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
Totally agree gold, massive lift for us hardened supporters. Will mc gourty be back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 19, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 19, 2013, 08:16:53 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 09, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 09, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
My worst fears have been confirmed  :-[ back page of todays irish news.

What is it with these Antrim players and egos,its not that them have any great reason to have them.Nightmare, the sad part is Dawson has not a lot to replace them with but he should stand his ground and tell them all to feck off, join McGourty in the Rock bar and shite talk about how great they could have been.
Glens you would be well getting your facts straight before spouting your mouth off....truth be told Kevin mc gourty will never play for the county again and would be lucky to play for the club again. Has been advised not to or else face life in a wheel chair. Actually he was advised to not even play again a few years back but did so. There is a lot more goes on in peoples lives that you/we are not aware of and probably have no right to be informed off so maybe you should be a bit more careful about spouting your mouth off before known the true facts

I see Kevin is ignoring the medical advice and looking for a recall to the county panel. It must have been a quiet week on the news front, first they ring Bradley and then McGourty, neither ever let them down.

;D ;DWhat an clown,a man who was nearly in a wheelchair according to manballandall,they should start another county team for all these egos and they can fight with one another after they tell themselves how great they are. :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 19, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
Eejit of the highest order...only kevin knows what goes on in that head of his...or does he?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 19, 2013, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 19, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
Eejit of the highest order...only kevin knows what goes on in that head of his...or does he?

Nothing like creating a story just to say yes I do want to play county football. Total Joke.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 19, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 19, 2013, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 19, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
Eejit of the highest order...only kevin knows what goes on in that head of his...or does he?

Nothing like creating a story just to say yes I do want to play county football. Total Joke.

Breathtaking arrogance from him as usual, basically a made up story to get him in the paper. He refuted rumours that he is back with Antrim, what rumours ? He said "the ball is very much in Frank Dawsons court". He must live in a parallel universe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 19, 2013, 01:59:24 PM
If KMG or FD were really interested in making this happen, it would have happened already. If I am not mistaken did Kevin not come out and make some negative sounds about FD`s appointment in the first place? If so I would be very surprised to see a reconciliation at this stage. Run with the fox or hunt with the hounds - but its very hard to get away with both!

But I wouldn't rush to put all the blame on this on Kevin. Chances are he was rang up by a sports reporter from the Irish News and asked for a minute of his time, and a few general questions ended up in a big story that involved KMG face on the very front page of the IN. Good chance there is a lot of opportunist journalism going on here. I would have my doubts that KMG instigated that item. But when he took the call and answered a few general questions he was always going to be screwed over.

If Kevin had said "No, I have no interest whatsoever in playing for either Antrim or Frank Dawson"  - it would likely as not have been turned into an even bigger big story too.  Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Is he going well with St Galls?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 19, 2013, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 19, 2013, 01:59:24 PM
If KMG or FD were really interested in making this happen, it would have happened already. If I am not mistaken did Kevin not come out and make some negative sounds about FD`s appointment in the first place? If so I would be very surprised to see a reconciliation at this stage. Run with the fox or hunt with the hounds - but its very hard to get away with both!

But I wouldn't rush to put all the blame on this on Kevin. Chances are he was rang up by a sports reporter from the Irish News and asked for a minute of his time, and a few general questions ended up in a big story that involved KMG face on the very front page of the IN. Good chance there is a lot of opportunist journalism going on here. I would have my doubts that KMG instigated that item. But when he took the call and answered a few general questions he was always going to be screwed over.

If Kevin had said "No, I have no interest whatsoever in playing for either Antrim or Frank Dawson"  - it would likely as not have been turned into an even bigger big story too.  Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Is he going well with St Galls?

He knows the IN boys well enough now to know the craic so the blame lays squarely at his door. He is a publicity seeker and if he isnt getting it by playing then it has to be through not playing or being left out or injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 19, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
I know this is off subject a bit, but doesn't Antrim Football really depress you at times?

I remember seeing an Antrim team at the top of Division One of the NFL. Ok - it was only after two or three games, but its a long way from where we are today. In fact is so far away its painful.

Its not as if we haven't produced enough quality players. The "batch" that should have been doing its stuff for Antrim in the last few years includes (in my book anyway) more than enough genuine quality to be anywhere near the basement division.

Grade A players that could make any county team include Sean Kelly (welcome back Sean) James Loughrey, Michael Magill, Kevin Niblock, Michael Mc Cann, Kevin O Boyle, Niall Mc Keever, and in my opinion, at his best doing everything right, Kevin Mc Gourty.

How many of those, at their best, would not have made that Mayo team that played in last years All-Ireland final? That lot should be household names by now, and if they were all around at the one time (AS THEY SHOULD) we would be looking at a good division two team, at worst.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 19, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 19, 2013, 01:59:24 PM
If KMG or FD were really interested in making this happen, it would have happened already. If I am not mistaken did Kevin not come out and make some negative sounds about FD`s appointment in the first place? If so I would be very surprised to see a reconciliation at this stage. Run with the fox or hunt with the hounds - but its very hard to get away with both!

But I wouldn't rush to put all the blame on this on Kevin. Chances are he was rang up by a sports reporter from the Irish News and asked for a minute of his time, and a few general questions ended up in a big story that involved KMG face on the very front page of the IN. Good chance there is a lot of opportunist journalism going on here. I would have my doubts that KMG instigated that item. But when he took the call and answered a few general questions he was always going to be screwed over.

If Kevin had said "No, I have no interest whatsoever in playing for either Antrim or Frank Dawson"  - it would likely as not have been turned into an even bigger big story too.  Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Is he going well with St Galls?

Going on past reports he has phoned them,he likes to write an odd story about himself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 19, 2013, 05:47:56 PM
Wouldn't be the first time the irish news printed a fabricated story. Pinch of salt and give a fcuk come to mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 19, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
Some good news. Minors beat Cavan on a scoreline of 4-11 to 0-05 in the Shield league semi-final. That's a quare turnaround from their first outing when they lost to Tyrone by a similar margin.

Some good players on this team that we will be hearing about in years to come. For now its one game at a time, but that's three wins now this season and that's a much better stat than we had been getting at this important age group for quite a while. Well done to all concerned and keep up the great work.

If we can get it right at minor and under twenty one, we wont ever be too far away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 21, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
Easy win again for galls v mglass

LD brought back down to earth by Cargin. LD v limited at back.

Brigids had unexpected win away to injury hit St Johns.

St Paul's and AGrove drew. All points vital and AGroves first ever senior (div1) point. A big fair fucks to them.

Creggan just beat Rossa tonite

Will be tight at bottom

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
Who won the Rossa/Galls Feile final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2013, 12:05:48 AM
Rossa won handy enough in the end. Was pleased with our lads performance. this is an exceptional team they played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2013, 12:14:15 AM
Rossa seem to be producing good underage sides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 22, 2013, 06:59:04 AM
I heard rossa won by a point. 2-3 to 1-5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 22, 2013, 08:53:06 AM
Terrible result for us yesterday against st bridgits, we are missing alot through injury but still felt we had enough to beat a weak st bridgits side and with the current debacle between senior hurling and football management things arent going well at the minute. What were the rest of div 1 results?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 22, 2013, 09:17:38 AM
Janty doesnt want the hurlers playing for the footballers, and the under age teams that have been doing well (including his two sons) are taken preference over hurling, only in our club does this happen. every other dual club seem to be able to balance both codes.

Any other div1 football results from yesterday? we would need to be careful we dont end up in a relegation battle!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
Dual at county level is tough and nigh on impossible but to try and enforce that at club level is ridiculous and not very fair on boys that have grown up playing both, are young and all of a sudden need to stop dead.

Interestign result between Lamh Dhearg and Cargin. If Cargin had a FF line of Close, Magill and O'Boyle it would be pretty dangerous though they would still be miles of st galls I suspect!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 22, 2013, 09:41:40 AM
I know its not fair on the lads who have won minor and under 21 football championships and we need them bleed into our senior team. Conall Kelly is a massive loss to us, hes out injured at the moment.

What way did that one end up between cargin and lamh dhearg?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2013, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 22, 2013, 12:14:15 AM
Rossa seem to be producing good underage sides.

A by product of the good hurling teams, that team is a great hurling team, and they won't be deterred by the success of the footballing side of things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 22, 2013, 12:20:04 PM
Apologies HS i obviously heard wrong. A win is a win though whether its a point or 20. Congratulations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimlad on April 22, 2013, 12:25:37 PM
Éire Óg/St.Agnes won the U14 B Feile as well yesterday for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Lamhs 3-7 Cargin 2-18
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on April 22, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
In response to Simon Says, I feel you would be better contacting the respective football and/or hurling chairmen within the club to get the true picture.  I can assure you that "Janty" is not stopping anyone playing football.  You only need to open your eyes and see we have quite a few lads playing both codes.  Lads will make personal choices as to what they play, which has traditionally been the case in those clubs who are dual.  It's very easy to come on to a public forum and spout off!  Get the facts before you start denigrating our members and our club!  I even wonder are you a St. Johns man at all? :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
ooooh trouble in paradise!  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Simon Says on April 22, 2013, 04:58:25 PM
These are the stories im hearing ,coming from ex and current players something that goes on year in year out in our club, ive been a proud st johns man all my life and think its quite offensive to question if im a club man or not for voicing my opinion regarding our senior footballers to be quite frank we struggled and were lucky against aldergrove and got beat by a st bridgits team that were tipped for relegation, so yes i have my concerns if we dont get our act together soon we could be down at the bottom of the table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on April 22, 2013, 08:12:27 PM
Simon, I'm not going to get into a public debate with you about the club and the duality issue!  As for my inference about being a St. Johns man, I clearly meant that it wasn't someone masquerading as a St Johns man to stir it up a bit.  I'm sorry you took offence, none intended.  PM me and we can discuss further?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 26, 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Oh dear oh deary me!!!

A public feud between Johnnies members - 'stit it up'??  now now, who would do such a thing!

All sorts of rumours about the dual problems there in the past, sort it out!

But football results arent great alright!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2013, 02:12:49 PM
Who's managing St Johns this year. Not that it matters really, because the "big two" are still a fair bit ahead of the pack - though I had a feeling Cargin would have got it a lot tougher last week than it turned out.

Big question to Lamhs men? Where are all the great minors from a few seasons ago. How many are making your first 15 now, and out of the whole lot, can we expect to see any of them regularly in a county jersey? Ryan Murray excepted of course.

A couple of years back there was great talk about a fantastic up and coming Creggan team as well. The future according to some was between these two. Anyone still thinking that way?

No agenda here except to wonder where all these so called young stars are, and if their clubs still feel that they are genuine championship contenders in the next few years. That's all. And if so - who are the players who will lead from the front.

Not as if our own club is setting the world on fire at the minute!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 27, 2013, 12:27:28 AM
Predictions for this weekend:

Cargin to wallop St Johns
LD to just beat Creggan at Creggan
Galls by ten vRossa
Aldergrove to get something, maybe a first win v brigids. Will b tight.
Paul's v money glass will again b tight but fancy Paul's at home, just

Div 2

All saints to beat Gort
Glen ravel to lose to rasharkin
Aghagallon to beat ODs well
Glenavy to get first win v Teresa's



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 28, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
Just back from a game, and once more our illustrious referees have let the side down! It is alleged that M MC C got a straight red last night in the last few minutes, and BT like ET last year seems to have decided to make it two yellows, FFS lads grow a real pair!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 28, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
Just back from a game, and once more our illustrious referees have let the side down! It is alleged that M MC C got a straight red last night in the last few minutes, and BT like ET last year seems to have decided to make it two yellows, FFS lads grow a real pair!

you can't make a red into two yellows. Where you at the game ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2013, 08:25:39 PM
Some interesting division 1 results with aldergrove taking st brigids, creggan taking lamh dhearg and st pauls taking moneyglass.

Think he means that the player was already booked and should have had a straight red mr but easier decision was to give another yellow for straight red offense and the player sees the line anyway.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2013, 08:25:39 PM
Some interesting division 1 results with aldergrove taking st brigids, creggan taking lamh dhearg and st pauls taking moneyglass.

Think he means that the player was already booked and should have had a straight red mr but easier decision was to give another yellow for straight red offense and the player sees the line anyway.

That's down to the referee, did he commit a red card offence?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2013, 09:21:58 PM
No idea... More agendas against refs coming soon no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 10:11:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2013, 09:21:58 PM
No idea... More agendas against refs coming soon no doubt.

Hope he doesnt watch any of my games lol!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on April 29, 2013, 06:35:02 AM
Knowing the Referee in question Mibag, hes not the type of lad that would change his decision, i would suggest you get your facts right before launching into a personal attack! As the old saying goes nothing remains secret in the GAA ;) So if there is merit in what you have said then I'm sure the Referees committee will deal with accordingly, if M mc C was issued a straight red, then enough people would have seen it and the story will roll on and on and on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on April 29, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
Mick McCann received a yellow card midway through 2nd half. In dying minutes he gave away a free. He said something to the ref who moved the ball forward 13m. He then said something more to the ref who then gave him a straight red card.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
I remember a few years back the same player was given a striaght red for an altercation with a supporter at a game in dunloy I think. The ref that day, currently on the Antrim Referees Committee, was pressurised into changing his report to 2 yellows. It was a strange outcome  too  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on April 29, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
Mick McCann received a yellow card midway through 2nd half. In dying minutes he gave away a free. He said something to the ref who moved the ball forward 13m. He then said something more to the ref who then gave him a straight red card.

Dissent, a yellow card ball moved forward, further dissent is another yellow followed by red, depends if he personally abused the referee then it could have been a straight red, so if this was the case I'd very much doubt that any referee who was verbally abused to the extent of showing him a straight red was rescinded it to two yellows, regardless of who the player is.

Are we going to question every call this season ffs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on April 29, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
Mick McCann received a yellow card midway through 2nd half. In dying minutes he gave away a free. He said something to the ref who moved the ball forward 13m. He then said something more to the ref who then gave him a straight red card.

Dissent, a yellow card ball moved forward, further dissent is another yellow followed by red, depends if he personally abused the referee then it could have been a straight red, so if this was the case I'd very much doubt that any referee who was verbally abused to the extent of showing him a straight red was rescinded it to two yellows, regardless of who the player is.

Are we going to question every call this season ffs?

is this not what happens every year in every county in Ireland, pick on the easiest target especially when either the result or the decisions dont suit you???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on April 29, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
Mick McCann received a yellow card midway through 2nd half. In dying minutes he gave away a free. He said something to the ref who moved the ball forward 13m. He then said something more to the ref who then gave him a straight red card.

Dissent, a yellow card ball moved forward, further dissent is another yellow followed by red, depends if he personally abused the referee then it could have been a straight red, so if this was the case I'd very much doubt that any referee who was verbally abused to the extent of showing him a straight red was rescinded it to two yellows, regardless of who the player is.

Are we going to question every call this season ffs?

is this not what happens every year in every county in Ireland, pick on the easiest target especially when either the result or the decisions dont suit you???

I suppose, the referee is the main reason a teams loses, those feckers hate this club, or he wants to be the main man (heard that at a under 16 game!! told him to wise the fcuk up) How many steps ref? I always shout back, 4. Could go on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 04:28:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on April 29, 2013, 11:31:08 AM
Mick McCann received a yellow card midway through 2nd half. In dying minutes he gave away a free. He said something to the ref who moved the ball forward 13m. He then said something more to the ref who then gave him a straight red card.

Dissent, a yellow card ball moved forward, further dissent is another yellow followed by red, depends if he personally abused the referee then it could have been a straight red, so if this was the case I'd very much doubt that any referee who was verbally abused to the extent of showing him a straight red was rescinded it to two yellows, regardless of who the player is.

Are we going to question every call this season ffs?

is this not what happens every year in every county in Ireland, pick on the easiest target especially when either the result or the decisions dont suit you???

I suppose, the referee is the main reason a teams loses, those feckers hate this club, or he wants to be the main man (heard that at a under 16 game!! told him to wise the fcuk up) How many steps ref? I always shout back, 4. Could go on

Of course he's the main reason, in fact he's usually the only reason ffs!!

some good games coming up - who's favourites for the U21 games tomorrow night? Will they be on if county players not allowed to play? Or will they be allowed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 04:29:04 PM
oops - should have been in hurling thread
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lonely1 on April 29, 2013, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on April 29, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
I remember a few years back the same player was given a straight red for an altercation with a supporter at a game in dunloy I think. The ref that day, currently on the Antrim Referees Committee, was pressurised into changing his report to 2 yellows. It was a strange outcome  too  ::)

I am familiar with that incident also and would refer you to the story of "King Solomon and the Baby", wise move from the man in question I thought, his credability left in tact and embarrassed a few of the county officials at the time, fair play to him. Oh yes and Derry beat Antrim 2 weeks later.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 01, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
Lamh Dhearg bate Galls 2-12 to 0-12. Cunningham 1-7.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 01, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
Lamh Dhearg bate Galls 2-12 to 0-12. Cunningham 1-7.

champions elect!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 01, 2013, 10:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 01, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
Lamh Dhearg bate Galls 2-12 to 0-12. Cunningham 1-7.

champions elect!!

Only 0-5 from play from St Gall's, 0-2 from forwards. No Kieran or Kevin McGourty. Early in the year and Galls nowhere near Championship training but I thought a team with Gallagher, Healy, CJ, Pollock, Niblock, Sean Kelly and Terry O'Neill would've had too much for the stuttering Lamhs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:07:55 PM
Our league campaigns have never been great in fairness, this boost will certainly drive Lamhs on for the rest of the year, they have Cargin in the first round and after the hammering they got from Cargin recently then this will live up to being a good championship match. Love to referee that one, be brutal. Expect 2 red cards ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2013, 11:51:00 PM
Good win for the johnnies over creggan and big win for aldergrove away to moneyglass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 02, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
No such problems in Hannahstown, being closer to the sun.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
So that was a load of bollocks about Karl Stewart joining the Antrim footballers ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2013, 09:36:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 02, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
So that was a load of bollocks about Karl Stewart joining the Antrim footballers ?

I'm confused  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2013, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2013, 09:36:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 02, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
So that was a load of bollocks about Karl Stewart joining the Antrim footballers ?

I'm confused  ::)

Did manballandall not say a few weeks ago he couldn't commit to St Galls or Antrim hurlers because of work commitments ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2013, 09:52:33 PM
He did and I've noticed he's on the panel for Sunday, very strange. In fairness I haven't been to the club as much as normal, been to the games but was under the same illusion that he had packed in the club hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2013, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
Karl is apparently concentrating on football this year. Couldn't commit to club or county hurling due to work committments. Great footballer and can't wait to see how he gets on at that level. Always said he was good enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2013, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 02, 2013, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
Karl is apparently concentrating on football this year. Couldn't commit to club or county hurling due to work committments. Great footballer and can't wait to see how he gets on at that level. Always said he was good enough

I remember the post but manballand all isn't Karl Stewart
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 02, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
Correct minder, that is what I said as that is what was said . Very strange indeed. But good luck to him whatever sport he plays. A good lad with unreal talent and hopefully he'll be back playing club hurling too then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 05, 2013, 10:15:15 PM
Any result in Rossa game tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 05, 2013, 10:15:15 PM
Any result in Rossa game tonight?

beat by 26 points - 3-25 - 0-08
all Moneyglass scores from play !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 06, 2013, 12:52:47 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 05, 2013, 10:15:15 PM
Any result in Rossa game tonight?

beat by 26 points - 3-25 - 0-08
all Moneyglass scores from play !!

f**k
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
Rossa didnt pick up any points until very late in the season last year, and finished very strongly. Doing a 'Wigan' if you like. Not looking good this year though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 10:08:52 AM
We scored 6-23 last night!! WTF
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 09, 2013, 12:16:19 PM
Much needed win hardstation! How did the rest of the games go last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2013, 11:16:22 AM
Seems our games are off today. Rain hasn't helped and we had hurling tournament on it yesterday which would have made a mess.

Was looking forward to the game with Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on May 12, 2013, 12:28:08 PM
St John's v Moneyglass switched to Corrigan Park, 3pm, Senior only. Must be in doubt as no sign of the rain easing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on May 12, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
It's now off as well... :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 14, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
St John's / Rossa derby tomorrow should be tasty enough. I'm going for a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 14, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
St John's / Rossa derby tomorrow should be tasty enough. I'm going for a draw.

Unlucky Hardstation, close call?

We managed to win Fergie time style!!   http://vimeo.com/66277770
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 16, 2013, 12:33:01 PM
Tasty enough game with St Johns deserving their win, bit of a row in second half, Rossa very young team out.

What would be your limits with full panel to pick from and everyone training, Hardstation?

Though that's a lot easier said than done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 17, 2013, 10:13:27 AM
Jesus Dawson sure told Scullion what he thought of him,Tony not a happy lad going by todays Irish News.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2013, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: glens abu on May 17, 2013, 10:13:27 AM
Jesus Dawson sure told Scullion what he thought of him,Tony not a happy lad going by todays Irish News.

Far too many ex players with big ego's with too much to say. The IN is seriously not helping Antrim's cause in any way shape or form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
Thought that whole thing was dead by now :-(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2013, 01:36:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
Thought that whole thing was dead by now :-(

Slow news day at the IN - 'oh what will we do, aye that's it, phone one of those Antrim boys they are always good value for spouting some rubbish about themselves or their manager'




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 25, 2013, 10:52:31 PM
James Loughrey started and played whole game at right half back for Cork v Limerick tonight.

Some goin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 26, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
Minors were 14 points down at half time.  Staged a bit of a comeback, 6 down with about 10mins to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 26, 2013, 08:21:57 PM
Obviously they ran out of steam a bit!!  Mon 4-20 Ant 3-6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 03, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
Sean McGreevy back in the Antrim panel.  Surely the oldest IC footballer in the country!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
Quote from: AQMP on June 03, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
Sean McGreevy back in the Antrim panel.  Surely the oldest IC footballer in the country!

Are there no young up and coming GK's that could use the experience of being in and around a senior set up?
Unless he is coming in with a view to a coaching role this is a totally backward step and one that will be seen as such by everyone looking in at us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
Its giving 24 degrees for Sunday and you know this might put a totally different complexion on this game. Antrim Football has two major characteristics. One, we are twice the team at home as we are away (we are the worst travellers in the country) and Two, we are much better with a dry ball. I know this might draw cynicism, but those two factors have defined us for a long time.

Monaghan looked a good bit bigger and stronger than us in Clones in the league, but Casement is a massive pitch and if we can get quick legs on the pitch, I wouldn't rule out a totally different game than when we last met. Give me fast legs over big and strong in these conditions!

We were all over the show at the end of March, so bad that I cant actually remember it being worse for a long time.  But I do anticipate that we can be competitive at least on Sunday, and the longer we can hold on in there, the pendulum could start to swing in our favour, and it may just be Monaghan who will suddenly find themselves under the burden of pressure of being expected to win this game easily.

If someone offered me a free bet I would have to go with Monaghan (simply because I think Malachy O Rourke is one of the very best in the business) but I wouldn't completely rule out another Ulster championship shock.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 12:55:48 PM
I honestly don't see us being within 6 points of Monaghan.

Maybe pessimistic but I think the result on Sunday will show how far we are behind. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
Kevin Madden in his IN column was 100% right when he says that the loss of three influential players from last year (Mick, Locky, Aidso) is huge - all players who are big on leadership too, and this cant be underestimated in the heat of a championship match.

Monaghan looked very impressive against Meath in the league final, and make no mistake, under MOR they will be a different animal in the championship.

Its a tough ask, as I believe Monaghan are probably a top ten team in the country at this moment. But Casement on a dry day will be worth a few points of a start to us.  There are much better signals coming from the camp than earlier in the year - so I`m hoping it might be close going into the last quarter and all to play for.

It all depends which Antrim turns up. We seem to have at least two Antrim teams this last couple of years. If our A team turns up we have some kind of chance. Anything less and its lights out....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2013, 02:00:57 PM
Some people would be critical of Tony Scullion but IMO he's a massive loss too. He drives at teams which is something we don't really have with him and Loughrey gone and he's one who seems to step it up when the going gets tough.

Finding it hard to be too optimisitc about this one with goings on this last few months though wish I could be :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 05, 2013, 03:22:57 PM
Sad to say I don't think we have a prayer.  This could be a hammering :'(  I was at the Fermanagh Monaghan league game and was impressed by Monaghan.  They look a big strong physical side and we don't tend to do well against them.  They didn't panic when Fermanagh were quick out of the blocks and ran up 0-5 without reply.  They were also able to kick long range points.

Paddy Power is offering a very stingy 4/1 on Antrim.  I'd say we should be 7/1 or 8/1

Monaghan by 8-10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2013, 03:32:15 PM
Tony gave us some great years ITG, and will be well remembered for his contribution to the cause. Will be hard to forget those lung bursting runs of his, and he emptied the tank on many occasions for the cause.

He will be sore at the way things turned out under Frank Dawson, but every manager sees different things in players and what he wants out of them. It is fairly clear Frank and Tony had different ideas going on - maybe not each others biggest fan, and in any players career there will be some managers who rate and want you more than others.

At the end of the day every manager at this level knows that this is a results driven business, and FD has come out several times recently saying that the team selected for Sunday is the best available to him. He has had 9 months to arrive at this conclusion, and get them in the best possible shape, so Sunday is the acid test.

A win, or a very big performance, and a lot of what when on earlier this year will either be forgotten or glossed over. Anything less than that will open the floodgates for opinions of all shades and agendas. We will all be a lot wiser by Sunday evening!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 05, 2013, 03:36:24 PM
I think TS took a bit of undeserved flak from Antrim fans over the years.  He and the two McCanns are big losses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on June 05, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Conall Kelly away is another big loss. Seems one of few who can kick points from range
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2013, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on June 05, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Conall Kelly away is another big loss. Seems one of few who can kick points from range

Seriously? I never seen too many Antrim players kick any points from distance unless it was a 45. Too many afraid to kick for scores and when they did they were usually wide, major problem for Antrim and always will be as we over do things once we get past midfield
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 05, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Antrim Team:

1. Chris Kerr Naomh Gall

2 Kevin O'Boyle Clann na hEireann
3 Ricky Johnston Ciceam Creagan
4 Andy McClean Naomh Gall

5 Sean Kelly Naomh Gall
6 Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann
7 Patrick McBride Naomh Eoin

8 Sean McVeigh Naomh Uile
9 Marty Johnston Ciceam Creagan

10 Anthony Healy Naomh Gall
11 Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
12 Mark Sweeney Naomh Brid

13 Michael Pollock Naomh Gall
14 Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
15 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg

Decent team.

Agree Scullion gave great service, kicked/hoofed alot of ball too far but couldnt criticise other than that. Great running, the only man fit to hit/bury an opposition player (we've always been soft) and weighed in with the odd score. Clearly loved playing for and had pride in Antrim--something that is not the norm and something we sorely lack

IF we get ahead on Sunday we'll have a chance. If not we will do well to win.

Have hope as ever.

Shock of the year coming up!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 08, 2013, 11:36:05 AM
Mark Sweeney Naomh Brid...

Is the above correct?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 09, 2013, 09:08:55 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 08, 2013, 11:36:05 AM
Mark Sweeney Naomh Brid...

Is the above correct?

I think he's with St Jude's in Dublin??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 10, 2013, 08:59:33 AM
What is the phrase the Spanish use...shit on a stick??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2013, 09:02:12 AM
Does the lack of traffic on this thread the day after the biggest match of the year, highlight the problem?
No one really cares?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on June 10, 2013, 09:16:01 AM
Was not a great day at the office - the price in did not reflect the standard that should of been provided.  Monaghan kicked a lot of wides and were very wasteful
but playing against a very negative antrim strategy.  Frank is rebuilding?  What people seem to ignore is that he crumbled the team and is trying to rebuild his own mess.

Joe brolly made a good point suggesting the manager was trying to save his own embaressment by damage limitation rather than going for it especially with a man down.
What a fantastic opportunity it was to put monaghan to the sword and leave a very good chance of another ulster final appearance.

Reading the Irish news he states that no team would want to meet us in the back door - dillusion at its best.  Any team will look to pull us be it home or away.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
Every team will hope to draw Antrim in the qualifiers after yesterdays performance. Brutal stuff. Beaten by a poor Monaghan side. Casement was less than half full and thats being generous. Not even a golf clap when Antrim came onto the pitch, says it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 10, 2013, 11:35:33 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
Not even a golf clap when Antrim came onto the pitch, says it all.

+1 ... the GAA in Antrim is no more than a fashionable accessory for many
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 10, 2013, 12:12:34 PM
Really depressing stuff yesterday,2nd half in particular was brutal for Antrim who seemed to run out of ideas and lost their way once they crossed the halfway line.Thought Niblock was a massive loss. :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 11, 2013, 07:33:12 AM
Quote from: otbar on June 10, 2013, 09:16:01 AM
Was not a great day at the office - the price in did not reflect the standard that should of been provided.  Monaghan kicked a lot of wides and were very wasteful
but playing against a very negative antrim strategy.  Frank is rebuilding?  What people seem to ignore is that he crumbled the team and is trying to rebuild his own mess.

Joe brolly made a good point suggesting the manager was trying to save his own embaressment by damage limitation rather than going for it especially with a man down.
What a fantastic opportunity it was to put monaghan to the sword and leave a very good chance of another ulster final appearance.

Reading the Irish news he states that no team would want to meet us in the back door - dillusion at its best.  Any team will look to pull us be it home or away.

Thoughts?

Worst performance EVER. Worse than Roscommon in NFL3 this year.

To play with 1 or 2 forwards against 6 defenders was criminal. When they went a man down they simply had 5 defenders on 2. WTF?
Defence (all 45 of them) actually did ok but to play with no attacking strategy was a disgrace. Sickening. Monaghan are poor enough too with many aging boys around the middle. Mark Sweeney is well fit to kick scores and open up a defence but cant do it from his own 20metre line. Why not just have Anto Healy sweeping and leave Sweeney up?

Spoof Merchant Dawson was just happy to keep the score down to take the bad look off him. Well it didnt fuckin work. Never has a team been so slated on the Sunday Game. Should be highly embarrassing for us all but Very few will give  a f**k however as no one has any pride in themselves up here and are happy to have the 'hands off' critical approach that Sean Kelly (who played well) said he had himself when watching the team in the National League.

The Golf Clap is our problem. Ive said it before on here i think im the only one who ever even starts the golf clap as we're all so    reluctant to support up here incase someone gives us abuse for doin so, much easier to run ourselves down. We came out at start of 2nd half and i was sittin down and didnt even notice as there was no noise whatsoever from our ones --would the same people make noise if Manchester of England or Glasgow Celtic of Scotland ran out onto a pitch, i bet they would, and they teams/paid circus acts full of asian/european/american players no one could ever (if their honest) really give a f**k about whether they win or lose. Delusional supporting such teams as opposed to supporting your own people.

Dawson is an absolute spoofer. Talking of "building on the platform we have" "we are a young team" is absolute and utter f**king bollix.

Platform: we have none. We had one a few years ago. His 'platform' was relegation to Div 4.

Young Team:

1. Chris Kerr Naomh Gall: Not young

2 Kevin O'Boyle Clann na hEireann: Defo not young
3 Ricky Johnston Ciceam Creagan: young enough
4 Andy McClean Naomh Gall: Defo not young

5 Sean Kelly Naomh Gall: Defo not young. 31 yo
6 Justin Crozier Clann na hEireann: Defo not young
7 Patrick McBride Naomh Eoin: young

8 Sean McVeigh Naomh Uile: Defo not young
9 Marty Johnston Ciceam Creagan: young enough

10 Anthony Healy Naomh Gall: Defo not young
11 Paddy Cunningham Lamh Dhearg: Defo not young
12 Mark Sweeney Naomh Brid: Defo Not young

13 Michael Pollock Naomh Gall: Defo not young
14 Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall: Defo not young
15 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg: Defo not young

Need to get rid of him and get in someone with more positivity. Sunday, a glorious day made for attacking football, made my stomach churn. How we can just accept defeat (when we've 2 arms and 2 legs like the next man) is f**king beyond me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on June 11, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
 Five or six of our best players not even playing due to various reasons,mainly bad man management by Frank Dawson.We are not the best footballing county in Ireland but we're not as bad as Sunday's result would suggest. Can we not appoint a manager who can command the respect of every club and player in the county. When did we last put out our very best team ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 12:19:11 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 11, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
Five or six of our best players not even playing due to various reasons,mainly bad man management by Frank Dawson.We are not the best footballing county in Ireland but we're not as bad as Sunday's result would suggest. Can we not appoint a manager who can command the respect of every club and player in the county. When did we last put out our very best team ?

This will be one of the few times I agree with you Bushwhacker  ;)

There is no way in a county like ours with such a small pool that we can afford to do without 1 player never mind 4-5-6, now I would never be in for pandering to some of these egos that have crept up, but there has to be a way of getting the maximum out of the talent we have within the county.

Not that I am a massive fan but we saw the improvements made by the hurlers under DC simply because for the majority of the time he got the best players out playing and got the best out of them. Time for an outsider who would be able to galvanise the county and get everyone pulling in the same direction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on June 11, 2013, 12:25:20 PM
Can't remember a worse championship performance by an Antrim team, even going back to the wide fest against the same opposition in '89. Baffling how 8mins into the second half the tactics werent changed and some of the substitutions were baffling. MJ at midfield was still in Creggan as he definately didnt turn up at Casement, our lack of support runners from half back was amazing, considering we had 6 half backs! The thing that summed it all up was Ck coming up to hit that free, what a load of balls! FD ( and i have been a supporter of giving him a chance) must have watched how Cavan played against Armagh and just copied their play book, the only problem was that MOR is not JG and he he simply left his half back line in place which completely negated our ball into space for the two men left up front. On the day tactics go wrong, fair enough, but what is unacceptable at this level is that when its not working that its not changed!
I feel extremely sorry for those Antrim players who have trained and given up their time and sacraficed so much to go out and play in a system which was best naive and at worst a complete shambles.
Qualifiers dont hold much hope for me and any team in Ireland ( or England) will be looking at us as a prime draw. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2013, 03:37:08 PM
All quite damning accounts of the game and I can't disagree with any of them. Never have I been so disgusted walking away from a game in Casement Park. The complete lack of direction from the sideline was crazy and I can't fathom how he expects to lift the lads for the qualifiers in such a negative backlash. I think McGourty has hit the nail on the head in the paper today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2013, 03:37:08 PM
All quite damning accounts of the game and I can't disagree with any of them. Never have I been so disgusted walking away from a game in Casement Park. The complete lack of direction from the sideline was crazy and I can't fathom how he expects to lift the lads for the qualifiers in such a negative backlash. I think McGourty has hit the nail on the head in the paper today.

What he say today FFS??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
Antrim is a rudderless ship was the headline.

Basically said Dawson must go, that Dawson told him twice on the phone that he was finished after McGourt offered his services. Ask the lads in Bellaghy, Burren and elsewhere why the got rid of him. Why Dawson has never managed this current group of St Galls players. How the new guard aren't up to the mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
Antrim is a rudderless ship was the headline.

Basically said Dawson must go, that Dawson told him twice on the phone that he was finished after McGourt offered his services. Ask the lads in Bellaghy, Burren and elsewhere why the got rid of him. Why Dawson has never managed this current group of St Galls players. How the new guard aren't up to the mark.

But we know a lot of that anyways, the team isn't anywhere good enough even with the best 15 available. The players don't really get on with each other and would rather win club championships than win something with the county. Compared with most counties the fan base is really bad, while a great amount of work is being done by Club Antrim in generating funds it needs bums on seats and vocal support for the team.

As for the manager, if it wasn't Dawson then it would some other manager getting it in the neck. We need to be competing at all levels before we can expect the senior team to achieve anything. Again we all know that. I could go on but we are division 4 team and should not be expecting to beat teams above our level, why the big hassle of the game on Sunday is beyond me. Did you expect anything else? To be one point down at half time was a major improvement on our league form, to beat the handicap was another bonus. To play so defensively was wrong and to keep playing it when they had 14 men was crazy!! The last two points are the only thing I would have been annoyed with about Sundays game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
Right so you expected a win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 11, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2013, 03:37:08 PM
All quite damning accounts of the game and I can't disagree with any of them. Never have I been so disgusted walking away from a game in Casement Park. The complete lack of direction from the sideline was crazy and I can't fathom how he expects to lift the lads for the qualifiers in such a negative backlash. I think McGourty has hit the nail on the head in the paper today.

Awful performance but don't think we should take any lessons from a clown like McGourty and his ego,seen him swaning about the club before the game iPad in hand,looking for pats on the back.If talented players like him and his ilk had put more effort into the county I think his opinions might count for something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2013, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
Right so you expected a win?
No but as it transpired, the win was there for the taking had we a semblance of a plan on how to create scoring chances.
Frank Dawson gave us absolutely no chance of winning that match by the way he set us up.
The guy is a fcukin joker.

Why was the win there for the taking? Was it because Antrim played defensively and kept the score low? Or because Monaghan were shit. Monaghan actually played better with 14 men than they did with 15. You said yourself that you didn't expect a win, I think Dawson thought the same, same as antrim club hurling manager of a team from Belfast playing the likes of Dunloy or Loughgiel you don't expect to win but put up a decent fight and not get a hidding.

At no point am I saying Dawson was right to have 13 men behind the ball with no real options to score. I just think we are deluding ourselves into thinking had we had 15 on 15 would we even have got close to that score at half time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2013, 08:40:45 PM
Monaghan were there for taking, this was clear at half time. Antrim however continued to sit back, wasn't sure whether they were playing a 6 man midfield or an 8 man half back line!? Had they have pushed men forward more then I think panic could have set in with M'han.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:05:45 PM
Why don't we send the team packing also, they were dreadful by all accounts, would have been a while since we knocked up a 1-12 in championship football. And we have been the laughing stock of football for years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2013, 11:18:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:05:45 PM
Why don't we send the team packing also, they were dreadful by all accounts, would have been a while since we knocked up a 1-12 in championship football. And we have been the laughing stock of football for years

Jesus ye haven't been that bad over the last 5 years, Reached an Ulster Final in 09 I think? Got successive promotions under Baker Bradley too. He got Antrim gaining some respect I thought? Beat Galway last year aswell

Although, ye have some talented players like CJ McGourty who wan't play County asaik? Great player,
Dawson should never have dropped the McCanns, excellent footballers. Scullion is a useful half back aswell. Loughrey moving to Cork was a loss too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:39:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 11, 2013, 11:18:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:05:45 PM
Why don't we send the team packing also, they were dreadful by all accounts, would have been a while since we knocked up a 1-12 in championship football. And we have been the laughing stock of football for years

Jesus ye haven't been that bad over the last 5 years, Reached an Ulster Final in 09 I think? Got successive promotions under Baker Bradley too. He got Antrim gaining some respect I thought? Beat Galway last year aswell

Although, ye have some talented players like CJ McGourty who wan't play County asaik? Great player,
Dawson should never have dropped the McCanns, excellent footballers. Scullion is a useful half back aswell. Loughrey moving to Cork was a loss too.

Galway have been dung, and the team that played in the Ulster final is not the same team that played on Sunday. we've had successive relegation's also and back to where we belong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:37:38 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 08:09:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:39:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 11, 2013, 11:18:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:05:45 PM
Why don't we send the team packing also, they were dreadful by all accounts, would have been a while since we knocked up a 1-12 in championship football. And we have been the laughing stock of football for years

Jesus ye haven't been that bad over the last 5 years, Reached an Ulster Final in 09 I think? Got successive promotions under Baker Bradley too. He got Antrim gaining some respect I thought? Beat Galway last year aswell

Although, ye have some talented players like CJ McGourty who wan't play County asaik? Great player,
Dawson should never have dropped the McCanns, excellent footballers. Scullion is a useful half back aswell. Loughrey moving to Cork was a loss too.

Galway have been dung, and the team that played in the Ulster final is not the same team that played on Sunday. we've had successive relegation's also and back to where we belong

No we didn't and sorry, Milltown, but we are better than Div 4. Dawson brought us to Div 4.

Also, IMO, the team were not that bad on Sunday but they were very badly let down by having to play a system which was never going to win them the match. They were left embarrassed by Dawson. I believe that if Baker had been managing us on Sunday, we'd not have been far away.

Fact is, you don't give a flying fcuk about our county footballers, Milltown, and you are blindly supporting Frank Dawson because he was a St. Gall's man.

Since he has taken over, he has created a fcukin mess and we are going backwards at a rate of knots.
It is time to stop this.

So we are in div 4 but shouldn't be there? Maybe not successive relegation's but very close to, I don't think during the league we used that defensive system. The players left and that's up to them, they left the Antrim panel but the manager gets it in the neck?? In most counties the players play for their county, not the manager. They should not have left the panel because of a disagreement with the manager, I've played for many managers, some I got on with others not so much, but I never missed a session/match or didn't try in every game because of who was in charge.

Fact is you know fcuk all about me and what I really like, at no point in my posts did i defend Dawson's tactics.

Be he a Galls man or not makes no difference to me. Bring Whitey back sure, he was decent manager and will bring us back up the leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
If you honestly believe that another manager couldn't do any better than Frank Dawson has done, with the same crop of players, fair enough - there would be no point in getting rid of him.

I think that is totally ridiculous though.

So you think that a manager would be able to fix what happened during the league? To lose that many players before the league and then during it, also bring players into the panel at the end of the league and expect them to be up to the standard!! You think that another manager would have got closer than 5 points or possibly won? Glorious defeats are just that, defeats. 13 men behind the ball was wrong not changing it when they were a man down was wrong, but not having your full compliment of players due to disagreements isn't going to help your cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 12, 2013, 10:41:49 AM
Lads, yee are splitting hairs here. I'm in Belfast quite a bit with family and have taken in quite a few Antrim games over the last few years. The deterioration this season has been something shocking. The fact is that everything has contributed, players not playing, players leaving, players coming back late, ex players mouthing off in the papers. It all contributes to Antrim not being able to compete in the championship. I watched the game on TV, it was appalling. Dawsons comments after the game shocked me to.

Final point from me. Who is this anti-christ McGourty who mouths off in the papers? As far as I can see he is a twisted so and so who simply wants a good row. Any lad who uses the papers the way he does to vent his anger has serious issues. Is he a laughing stock up there or do you actually take him seriously? One week he's shouting about come get him, he'll play for Antrim, then he slags all and sundry off. Why on earth do the papers give plonkers like this airtime?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 12, 2013, 10:47:12 AM
I see Dara O'Se had a fair old cut off us in the Irish Times today!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 12, 2013, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: ck on June 12, 2013, 10:41:49 AM
One week he's shouting about come get him, he'll play for Antrim, then he slags all and sundry off. Why on earth do the papers give plonkers like this airtime?

Seemingly controversy sells papers. We've plenty of players theses days telling us whats what in the print media
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
If you honestly believe that another manager couldn't do any better than Frank Dawson has done, with the same crop of players, fair enough - there would be no point in getting rid of him.

I think that is totally ridiculous though.

So you think that a manager would be able to fix what happened during the league? To lose that many players before the league and then during it, also bring players into the panel at the end of the league and expect them to be up to the standard!! You think that another manager would have got closer than 5 points or possibly won? Glorious defeats are just that, defeats. 13 men behind the ball was wrong not changing it when they were a man down was wrong, but not having your full compliment of players due to disagreements isn't going to help your cause.
You say this like he was the innocent victim in it all, ffs!


I've highlighted the area were I think he was wrong, I haven't said he was innocent either


As for running to the papers and mouthing off, McGourty isn't on his own TS also had a go this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 12, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
If you honestly believe that another manager couldn't do any better than Frank Dawson has done, with the same crop of players, fair enough - there would be no point in getting rid of him.

I think that is totally ridiculous though.

So you think that a manager would be able to fix what happened during the league? To lose that many players before the league and then during it, also bring players into the panel at the end of the league and expect them to be up to the standard!! You think that another manager would have got closer than 5 points or possibly won? Glorious defeats are just that, defeats. 13 men behind the ball was wrong not changing it when they were a man down was wrong, but not having your full compliment of players due to disagreements isn't going to help your cause.
You say this like he was the innocent victim in it all, ffs!


I've highlighted the area were I think he was wrong, I haven't said he was innocent either


As for running to the papers and mouthing off, McGourty isn't on his own TS also had a go this year

you are right TS did have a go but to be fair to him he always gave everything to the cause when asked,the same cannot be said for McGourty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:56:02 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 12, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
If you honestly believe that another manager couldn't do any better than Frank Dawson has done, with the same crop of players, fair enough - there would be no point in getting rid of him.

I think that is totally ridiculous though.

So you think that a manager would be able to fix what happened during the league? To lose that many players before the league and then during it, also bring players into the panel at the end of the league and expect them to be up to the standard!! You think that another manager would have got closer than 5 points or possibly won? Glorious defeats are just that, defeats. 13 men behind the ball was wrong not changing it when they were a man down was wrong, but not having your full compliment of players due to disagreements isn't going to help your cause.
You say this like he was the innocent victim in it all, ffs!


I've highlighted the area were I think he was wrong, I haven't said he was innocent either


As for running to the papers and mouthing off, McGourty isn't on his own TS also had a go this year

you are right TS did have a go but to be fair to him he always gave everything to the cause when asked,the same cannot be said for McGourty

Yes massive effort over the years, but there are ones on here that are agreeing with the stuff McGourty said in the paper about Dawson. Out of his depth, wrong tactics, mis-management, should go.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2013, 12:04:49 PM
The fact is that you are both correct on some level HS and MR2.

Yes FD proved himself to be out of his depth tactically on Sunday and with player 'mismanagement' throughout the year.

Yes the players let him down, by either not playing up to their potential or simply not being good enough in the first place. This could be down to the manager but, apart from the guys that walked is there anyone out there deserving of a chance that didnt get it? No then he was dealing with what he had and they performed poorly.

FD cant make PC want the ball or show for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 12:14:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 11:59:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:56:02 AM
Quote from: glens abu on June 12, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
If you honestly believe that another manager couldn't do any better than Frank Dawson has done, with the same crop of players, fair enough - there would be no point in getting rid of him.

I think that is totally ridiculous though.

So you think that a manager would be able to fix what happened during the league? To lose that many players before the league and then during it, also bring players into the panel at the end of the league and expect them to be up to the standard!! You think that another manager would have got closer than 5 points or possibly won? Glorious defeats are just that, defeats. 13 men behind the ball was wrong not changing it when they were a man down was wrong, but not having your full compliment of players due to disagreements isn't going to help your cause.
You say this like he was the innocent victim in it all, ffs!


I've highlighted the area were I think he was wrong, I haven't said he was innocent either


As for running to the papers and mouthing off, McGourty isn't on his own TS also had a go this year

you are right TS did have a go but to be fair to him he always gave everything to the cause when asked,the same cannot be said for McGourty

Yes massive effort over the years, but there are ones on here that are agreeing with the stuff McGourty said in the paper about Dawson. Out of his depth, wrong tactics, mis-management, should go.
Haven't read what McGourty said but if the bit in bold is a summary of his article, he has it spot on IMO.

Look I haven't nor do you have the full facts on how the season has went in terms of behind the close doors, Having been a manager its not easy trying to get it right, so many ego's and players thinking they know it all and huffing when they get left of the team/panel or there food is cold or not getting enough travel money or can't go to a mass and meet up later.

Most managers do this for nothing, how many people on here would take a public post and get the shit ripped outta ya at every turn?

While on this occassion the tactics were wrong and we could have put up a better fight, laying the blame for everything at the managers door is daft IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crosskeys gael on June 12, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
 im simply an antrim supporter that only managed to get to four football matches this year.i also go to as many hurling and camogie matches as I can.
I spent £40 on sunday to watch an antrim team that was aiming to get beat by the smallest margin possible.it was so hard to watch and I left with my wife and children with 6 minutes still to play.i have never done this before but  with us only 5 or six points behind I knew that we were never going to win the match even with the extra man. it was soul destroying,really hard to watch.to make matters worse on the way home I listened to the antrim manager as he was being interviewed on radio ulster and he seem quite pleased with his days work. imo a managers first job is man management, assembling the best possible squad ,getting to know his players individually ,know what makes them tick and what motivates them. the iron fist approach and closing or slamming doors dosnt do anyone any good. there should be a team approach i.e management team and players    instead of the big boss and then the players. kevin mc gourty gave his opinon today, that was all he did. I have much the same opinon .im sick of this I would rather go and watch a team getting beat trying to win as what I witnessed on sunday. I def wont go back until there are drastic changes ,why not everybody  go and watch our hurlers  trying to beat wexford or Dublin instead  rather than the footballers trying to keep the score down.  sadly I met a few antrim supporters on sunday who were hoping that we would get beat by 10 points or more so as change would be forced straight away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 12, 2013, 02:51:27 PM
My in-laws were hoping for the same, get them beat out the gate so Dawson would be removed. Maybe Dawson was just happy to avoid a drubbing on the score board. His comments after the game were simply incredible! He spoke about them fighting to the end and a decent performance. A deluded man in denial!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on June 12, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
I went along to watch a competitive game. Had I known we were going out to lose by as little as possible and wave the white flag I wouldn't have bother going. Actually feel duped out of spending money for a competitive game that didn't exist. Won't be back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wherefromreferee? on June 13, 2013, 09:09:23 AM
Twitter had stories last night of two possible broken jaws in games played last night.  Is this the case?  Young fella Bradley and I think the other one named was McAlea (Sarsfields)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on June 13, 2013, 09:09:23 AM
Twitter had stories last night of two possible broken jaws in games played last night.  Is this the case?  Young fella Bradley and I think the other one named was McAlea (Sarsfields)

Just saw a photo of people out on the pitch at St Pauls looking for teeth.

What the f**k part of our game is this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on June 13, 2013, 09:09:23 AM
Twitter had stories last night of two possible broken jaws in games played last night.  Is this the case?  Young fella Bradley and I think the other one named was McAlea (Sarsfields)

Just saw a photo of people out on the pitch at St Pauls looking for teeth.

What the f**k part of our game is this?

It's not the first time this has happened to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on June 13, 2013, 09:09:23 AM
Twitter had stories last night of two possible broken jaws in games played last night.  Is this the case?  Young fella Bradley and I think the other one named was McAlea (Sarsfields)

Just saw a photo of people out on the pitch at St Pauls looking for teeth.

What the f**k part of our game is this?

It's not the first time this has happened to be fair.

Fair to who?

Do you mean with St Pauls or otherwise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on June 13, 2013, 09:09:23 AM
Twitter had stories last night of two possible broken jaws in games played last night.  Is this the case?  Young fella Bradley and I think the other one named was McAlea (Sarsfields)

Just saw a photo of people out on the pitch at St Pauls looking for teeth.

What the f**k part of our game is this?

It's not the first time this has happened to be fair.

Fair to who?

Do you mean with St Pauls or otherwise?

This stuff isn't even going on in South Antrim games anymore. This fella should be kicked out of the game, Breandan Bradley is a quiet lad who I have never seen in a confrontation in all my days of knowing him, very honest and a very good footballer and hurler for Naomh Gall. To have your jaw wired up for the summer because of some thug is a disgrace and I'd be bringing the cops in on this one and doing the fcuker for assualt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2013, 12:57:43 PM
Crazy stuff, easy target. Brendans a great young lad with no badness in him. A bright future prospect for the county as well. Hope he gets well soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 13, 2013, 01:26:04 PM
Unreal - just heard what went on! Puts you off our great games! 

Everyone knows exactly what happened and who it was! Why would Brendan 'make it up' fceking lying in a hospital bed!
Hope YOU are reading this!!!!
Do yourself a favour and man up!!!

Head fried with it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 13, 2013, 01:39:19 PM
Seen that picture on twitter, thuggery of the highest order. If guilty he should be named and shamed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
Agree with Milltown ...get the police involved. Thugs should not be protected in the GAA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on June 13, 2013, 09:09:23 AM
Twitter had stories last night of two possible broken jaws in games played last night.  Is this the case?  Young fella Bradley and I think the other one named was McAlea (Sarsfields)

Just saw a photo of people out on the pitch at St Pauls looking for teeth.

What the f**k part of our game is this?

It's not the first time this has happened to be fair.

Fair to who?

Do you mean with St Pauls or otherwise?

Glensman don't mistake me, I was not defending the action and I agree with the sentiments on here already. Was merely pointing out the fact that this is not the first time an incident like this happened within our county.

I guess Twitter and the likes make it much easier to get this type of thing brought to the public attention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 13, 2013, 02:50:05 PM
Which is a good thing so it can't be wiped under the carpet like it used to and still does in some cases within the GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 13, 2013, 05:13:50 PM
Should we get the cops involved every time someone throws a punch on the field ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on June 13, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 13, 2013, 05:13:50 PM
Should we get the cops involved every time someone throws a punch on the field ?
define assault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2013, 05:54:31 PM
Every time someone throws a punch? No.. But if it connects and the person ends up seriously injured ie, jaw broke in 3 places, teeth missing, emergency surgery...then yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2013, 05:54:31 PM
Every time someone throws a punch? No.. But if it connects and the person ends up seriously injured ie, jaw broke in 3 places, teeth missing, emergency surgery...then yes

Exactly...the same happens in everyday life...maybe youre not aware of that saffrongael
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 13, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
Agree with Milltown ...get the police involved. Thugs should not be protected in the GAA

What about RayM, not too many backing him Skull when it came to the crunch including our saviours at Executive..................................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 13, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
Agree with Milltown ...get the police involved. Thugs should not be protected in the GAA

What about RayM, not too many backing him Skull when it came to the crunch including our saviours at Executive..................................

But the thing is the club was given certain bans players were given suspensions and it was dealt with, in between that he was shafted by the Ulster appeal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 13, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 13, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
Agree with Milltown ...get the police involved. Thugs should not be protected in the GAA

What about RayM, not too many backing him Skull when it came to the crunch including our saviours at Executive..................................

But the thing is the club was given certain bans players were given suspensions and it was dealt with, in between that he was shafted by the Ulster appeal

No No MR2 you surprise me, he was shafted by the knights at UC, but colleagues and witnesses shit the togs when it came to police, so the tight knit GAA family scatterred to the 4 winds when it came to the cops!! As probably would some of yours if the shoe was on the other >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 13, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 13, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
Agree with Milltown ...get the police involved. Thugs should not be protected in the GAA

What about RayM, not too many backing him Skull when it came to the crunch including our saviours at Executive..................................

But the thing is the club was given certain bans players were given suspensions and it was dealt with, in between that he was shafted by the Ulster appeal

No No MR2 you surprise me, he was shafted by the knights at UC, but colleagues and witnesses shit the togs when it came to police, so the tight knit GAA family scatterred to the 4 winds when it came to the cops!! As probably would some of yours if the shoe was on the other >:(

I'd have no problems with going to the peelers, yeah possibly there are ones who'd say no to the police
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:55:18 PM
Young Brendan has ended up with 3 fractures 2 plates 4 screws and some bands later after his jaw and teeth are back in the right place.

Hopefully this thug won't be allowed back on the pitch again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 13, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:55:18 PM
Young Brendan has ended up with 3 fractures 2 plates 4 screws and some bands later after his jaw and teeth are back in the right place.

Hopefully this thug won't be allowed back on the pitch again

Absolutely disgusting,no room for thugs like that in any sport.Hope the young lad makes a full recovery and continues to enjoy our great games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 11:12:24 PM
More people need to speak up and say that taking such measures is the right thing to do...over time positions will change.

Trampish behaviour like this is sickening

I'd need the go back to when Ray got roughed up to see what was being said here at that time but my memory is of one of similar reaction
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2013, 11:20:01 PM
Several clubs in the past have been known to run amile when police are involved. It's something that has always sickened me. Just because you're on a football field doesn't make you exempt from the law.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
Yeah...getting proper justice needs to be the consideration. Yes that involves the police which some people have hang ups about, but they need to get over that and think about what's right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on June 14, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
Although I don't know about this incident, the thoughts of it disgust me. People don't play our national games with the the intention of ending up in hospital or worse. MR2 you're right about the shafting, skull1 you're tight too, as is mibag. However I would like to remind you that the incident involving RM isn't over, and this has been confirmed by him, the boy who threw the first punch that day was up in court last week, pleaded not guilty, looks like it will be up in court later this year. This is the only reckoning these people will listen to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 09:05:31 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on June 14, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
Although I don't know about this incident, the thoughts of it disgust me. People don't play our national games with the the intention of ending up in hospital or worse. MR2 you're right about the shafting, skull1 you're tight too, as is mibag. However I would like to remind you that the incident involving RM isn't over, and this has been confirmed by him, the boy who threw the first punch that day was up in court last week, pleaded not guilty, looks like it will be up in court later this year. This is the only reckoning these people will listen to

Good to hear that he was up in court, hopefully he'll get what he deserves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on June 14, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Total disgrace that people should have to worry about getting their jaw broke when going to play a game of football. If it isn't dealt with properly, then it is more likely to put off boys like Bradley who actually want to play the game, and keep the fella who done it and similar people in our game as they can get away with it. Does anybody know what exactly happened in it? Off the ball slap?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Corkey22 on June 14, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Total disgrace that people should have to worry about getting their jaw broke when going to play a game of football. If it isn't dealt with properly, then it is more likely to put off boys like Bradley who actually want to play the game, and keep the fella who done it and similar people in our game as they can get away with it. Does anybody know what exactly happened in it? Off the ball slap?

That would be some slap!! Popeye couldn't slap ya that hard that you end up with a broken jaw in 3 places FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 14, 2013, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Corkey22 on June 14, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Total disgrace that people should have to worry about getting their jaw broke when going to play a game of football. If it isn't dealt with properly, then it is more likely to put off boys like Bradley who actually want to play the game, and keep the fella who done it and similar people in our game as they can get away with it. Does anybody know what exactly happened in it? Off the ball slap?

That would be some slap!! Popeye couldn't slap ya that hard that you end up with a broken jaw in 3 places FFS

I'm sure and I'd say you are too that he wasn't being literal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 14, 2013, 11:50:15 AM
From speaking to someone who was there as I wasnt there myself....brendan was playing well and the boy was at the usual stuff backs be at but at this point he kicked out at brendan at which point Brendan pusehed him away and the guy stroke out (from behind too im led to believe).

That is what i heard but again i wasnt there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on June 14, 2013, 12:05:42 PM
I was there and that's an accurate statement on what happened.B.B. having good game in both play and from frees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on June 14, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
best wishes on recovery to Brendan, this kind of incident i think now is at the point of no return as the injury sustained by the lad playing in America a couple of seasons highlighted.  It just cannot be let happen by anyone involved, there will always be incidents in the future as in the nature of the physical game but off the ball cheap shots can be stamped out. 

On the county side, IMO last sunday to me was a culmination of a host of things.  FD most definitely was found wanting as a manager based not just on the tactics at the start but mainly during the game.  A good manager should provide a threat from the line as in seeing things that need changing and acting,  i personally think that didn't happen on sunday as i saw a few things that needed addressing and if i could see that I'm sure many more did as well.

There were also plenty of playing mistakes as well, taking 2 maybe 3 chances to gain possession, missed takes and missed pick ups that less face it cannot be afforded at the highest level, we won maybe 2 clean catches at midfield and the short kick outs and breaking ball wasn't much better.

I rather than blaming the short term as in managing and players fully for the state of the game in Antrim would have to look at the bigger picture.  We for one will accept anyone who turns up at the meeting as coaches for our developments squads, we have no real plan for young players to attain county senior level, its more about getting on an underage panel and getting the gear.  Theres no point that this is a stepping stone on the way to the top step. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
Lets be honest ...... the vast majority of people who claim to follow the GAA in Antrim want someone else to to all the things that need to be done

That lack of bodies on the ground all the way through has a much bigger impact than anything FD or KR can do. Here lies the ugly truth
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on June 14, 2013, 12:36:21 PM
well you also have to play the hand your dealt and it would be fair to say Frank did not do that on Sunday.  Everything has to start with the clubs and if people are not putting it in there in the right way then really they are wasting their time complaining about the senior sides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on June 14, 2013, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Corkey22 on June 14, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Total disgrace that people should have to worry about getting their jaw broke when going to play a game of football. If it isn't dealt with properly, then it is more likely to put off boys like Bradley who actually want to play the game, and keep the fella who done it and similar people in our game as they can get away with it. Does anybody know what exactly happened in it? Off the ball slap?

That would be some slap!! Popeye couldn't slap ya that hard that you end up with a broken jaw in 3 places FFS

Slap has been known to mean 'hit' mr2...................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 14, 2013, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 13, 2013, 01:26:04 PM
Unreal - just heard what went on! Puts you off our great games! 

Everyone knows exactly what happened and who it was! Why would Brendan 'make it up' fceking lying in a hospital bed!
Hope YOU are reading this!!!!
Do yourself a favour and man up!!!

Head fried with it...

Can someone PM me who it was? Not sending round the boys just not in the know.

Thank you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: crosskeys gael on June 15, 2013, 12:02:41 PM
In reply to skull,why not try to  get a meeting organised of all interested parties and we will form working groups and decide a way forward.I give 5 nights a week to gaa as it is and would love to contribute to the antrim cause.
     i understand the volume of work that's needed and the length of time that it might take but sure if we don't make a start we will never get there.
           when I say all parties this of course should involve the county board together with players of all codes ,ex players and people like myself i.e antrim supporters who think they have something positive to offer.
   if you cant get something organised let me try,this cant go on ,days like last sunday cannot be repeated.  I wonder how many casual fans we have lost last week as the result of that debacle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on June 16, 2013, 05:22:46 PM
I agree with crosskeys gael that something has to be done to drag the footballers out of the dire situation we are in right now. For me, this season is a write off, Dawson will be gone by the end of the year and we can hopefully acquire the services of a decent intercounty manager.
At the start of this year I said we should have been going for Aidan ORourke, Malachy ORourke, even Tohill or someone of that ilk. Aidan ORourke made it clear he was interested in the job. He had experience in various intercounty set ups and his day job is as head of GAA at QUB, meaning he lives and breathes GAA everyday, is based in Belfast and has come across many of our players through Sigerson. By all accounts they speak very highly of him and he would have had no problems in getting our best players out on the pitch (namely the large portion of St Galls players who arent playing, and he wouldnt have had the idiotic confrontations which Dawson has had which have managed to exclude some of our better players). He is a modern manager who would have installed a defensive system which would have been far more advanced than Bakers, and he would have got the most out of what is one of the most talented groups of Antrim footballers for generations. We only have to look at his time with Louth to date. He comfortably kept them up in Division 2, which is no mean feat, and they recently beat Laois by ten points (or around that) in the first round of the championship, bearing in mind Laois were in the AI QFs last year and are comfortably a top 12 side. After the match Justin McNulty openly conceded he was destroyed in the sideline battle, while the Louth midfielder Paddy Keenan commented that ORourkes set up is without doubt the most professional he has ever played under.
The reason ORourke was even as much as contacted about the Antrim job is money. To run a top intercounty side nowadays costs hundred of thousands a year. Tyrone can do it, Club Erne funds Canavan (who albeit lost today, but have IMO improved significantly under him) and neither of these two counties has the second biggest city in Ireland within its boundaries. Money is absolutely key, so the question I ask to all out there who are complaining about the disgrace that was last Sunday is this; how are you helping to fund our county? Have you signed up to the One Antrim scheme? Are you contributing to Club Aontroma every month? Or are you sitting behind a keyboard bemoaning the apparent fact that our potentially great county will never rise from the doldrums we currently find ourselves in? You may say any money we have (which is seemingly very little) is being pumped into Dunsilly and the hurlers. If this is indeed the case, and if you care about it enough, youll get involved with Club Aontroma and work to change it rather than complaining online which will help absolutely no one. There is no doubt that money is tight and the current economic situation has had its effect on most people. However, if you look at the One Antrim scheme it is 120 pounds a year, or a tenner a month, or 2.50 a week. Thats the price of a cup of coffee, an icecream a couple of bags of crisps or whatever. Is it really the case that the vast majority of gaels in Antrim cannot do this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 16, 2013, 09:57:14 PM
The St Pauls act was trampy. Plenty of teams are at it, mostly in Belfast.

Plenty of 'men' fit to hit you from behind but not fit to hit you a proper shoulder. Heard Macs v Sarsfields was a bloodbath

Another club's reserve team have broken a few bones from behind in last year or so. Tramps who'd be safer watchin their beloved soccer

PM me the name Glensman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on June 17, 2013, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 16, 2013, 09:57:14 PM
The St Pauls act was trampy. Plenty of teams are at it, mostly in Belfast.

Plenty of 'men' fit to hit you from behind but not fit to hit you a proper shoulder. Heard Macs v Sarsfields was a bloodbath

Another club's reserve team have broken a few bones from behind in last year or so. Tramps who'd be safer watchin their beloved soccer

PM me the name Glensman.

Very harsh on Belfast teams Gold to suggest most are 'tramps and love soccer'.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on June 17, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
I heard Declan Lynch of Lamh Dhearg arrived in America on Wednesday, only to get deported on the first plane home.

Apparently his 60 day sanction was already approved and he is now unavailable!

Any other lads heading out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
So its poor Louth who have drawn the short straw and got the one county everyone wanted to avoid in the qualifiers....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2013, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: crosskeys gael on June 15, 2013, 12:02:41 PM
In reply to skull,why not try to  get a meeting organised of all interested parties and we will form working groups and decide a way forward.I give 5 nights a week to gaa as it is and would love to contribute to the antrim cause.
     i understand the volume of work that's needed and the length of time that it might take but sure if we don't make a start we will never get there.
           when I say all parties this of course should involve the county board together with players of all codes ,ex players and people like myself i.e antrim supporters who think they have something positive to offer.
   if you cant get something organised let me try,this cant go on ,days like last sunday cannot be repeated.  I wonder how many casual fans we have lost last week as the result of that debacle.

IMO It takes the fevered interests of many cg before good things would happen otherwise the interested few are only capable of keeping it going. More passionate volunteers needed....but how do you convince people who shouldn't need convincing to get involved when they've all got they're ready made excuses well prepared.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2013, 11:03:22 AM
James Gatz your post about not enough people supporting Club Aontroma and One Antrim  (I subscribe to both) is valid. Of course many more should do so, because these are worthwhile initiatives which are on a par with the most progressive counties. Problem is not enough people get fully behind them. Thats Skulls main point all along, and he has been saying this consistently for years - we simply dont have sufficient numbers of supporters who care ENOUGH.

James Gatz, your other point being our county couldnt afford Aidan O Rourke and that is why we didnt "go after him" is not valid at all in my opinion. The simple truth is that no club nominated him, nor was he known to declare an interest in the position. The resources available to Frank Dawson, his assistant, and backroom staff, appear to be much much better than what has been made available to several recent managers. If this current management team does not produce the goods they certainly wont be able to point to the fact that they were restricted in any way due to lack of facilities or finance.

The facilities offered to the Antrim team are a country mile improved from the days of Mickey Culbert, or PJ`s days when it would have been difficult to get a pitch to do a scoring drill in.

Before you go on an offensive, I qualify this by recognising we arnt putting the same finance into this as the top counties eg, Donegal, Dublin Tyrone etc. Would you??? But I`d be confident that from January to end June 2013 our preparation costs would be on a par with most other counties outside the top half dozen. What more could the "county board" do to financially to support Dawson and co?

Heard excellent things too about Aidan O Rourke, while personally on this forum I recommended Malachy O Rourke or Brian Mc Ivor if we were going for an outsider. Both won promotion at first time of asking so judgement not too far away!!

Dawson will get a crack on Saturday night to prove for once and for all that he can cut it at this level, and mix it with the Aidan O Rourkes of this world. He will know that there are no hiding places.  This time  its a simple case of "shite or get off the bucket"

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 17, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
WAS B.BRADLEY HIT FROM BEHIND?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: jftj on June 17, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
WAS B.BRADLEY HIT FROM BEHIND?

I think he was but what difference would it mean if you were puched in the jaw from the front side or from behind? He has a jaw broke in 3 places and plates and screws in place and will have his face wired up for 6 weeks, dinner through a straw? What's your point Jimmy ;)?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2013, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: jftj on June 17, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
WAS B.BRADLEY HIT FROM BEHIND?

I think he was but what difference would it mean if you were puched in the jaw from the front side or from behind? He has a jaw broke in 3 places and plates and screws in place and will have his face wired up for 6 weeks, dinner through a straw? What's your point Jimmy ;)?

Strange topic to make your first post about  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: onefaircounty on June 17, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: James Gatz on June 16, 2013, 05:22:46 PM
I agree with crosskeys gael that something has to be done to drag the footballers out of the dire situation we are in right now. For me, this season is a write off, Dawson will be gone by the end of the year and we can hopefully acquire the services of a decent intercounty manager.
At the start of this year I said we should have been going for Aidan ORourke, Malachy ORourke, even Tohill or someone of that ilk. Aidan ORourke made it clear he was interested in the job. He had experience in various intercounty set ups and his day job is as head of GAA at QUB, meaning he lives and breathes GAA everyday, is based in Belfast and has come across many of our players through Sigerson. By all accounts they speak very highly of him and he would have had no problems in getting our best players out on the pitch (namely the large portion of St Galls players who arent playing, and he wouldnt have had the idiotic confrontations which Dawson has had which have managed to exclude some of our better players). He is a modern manager who would have installed a defensive system which would have been far more advanced than Bakers, and he would have got the most out of what is one of the most talented groups of Antrim footballers for generations. We only have to look at his time with Louth to date. He comfortably kept them up in Division 2, which is no mean feat, and they recently beat Laois by ten points (or around that) in the first round of the championship, bearing in mind Laois were in the AI QFs last year and are comfortably a top 12 side. After the match Justin McNulty openly conceded he was destroyed in the sideline battle, while the Louth midfielder Paddy Keenan commented that ORourkes set up is without doubt the most professional he has ever played under.
The reason ORourke was even as much as contacted about the Antrim job is money. To run a top intercounty side nowadays costs hundred of thousands a year. Tyrone can do it, Club Erne funds Canavan (who albeit lost today, but have IMO improved significantly under him) and neither of these two counties has the second biggest city in Ireland within its boundaries. Money is absolutely key, so the question I ask to all out there who are complaining about the disgrace that was last Sunday is this; how are you helping to fund our county? Have you signed up to the One Antrim scheme? Are you contributing to Club Aontroma every month? Or are you sitting behind a keyboard bemoaning the apparent fact that our potentially great county will never rise from the doldrums we currently find ourselves in? You may say any money we have (which is seemingly very little) is being pumped into Dunsilly and the hurlers. If this is indeed the case, and if you care about it enough, youll get involved with Club Aontroma and work to change it rather than complaining online which will help absolutely no one. There is no doubt that money is tight and the current economic situation has had its effect on most people. However, if you look at the One Antrim scheme it is 120 pounds a year, or a tenner a month, or 2.50 a week. Thats the price of a cup of coffee, an icecream a couple of bags of crisps or whatever. Is it really the case that the vast majority of gaels in Antrim cannot do this?

This post should be framed if Dawson beats O'Roukre in the qualifiers.    :D       
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 17, 2013, 11:10:40 PM
makes a hell of a difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 18, 2013, 11:23:28 AM
Aye massive!!! Oh sorry i didnt mean that from behind, but sure take this smack in the laughing gear face on!

p***k!

Clearly only on to cause controversy!

Go away already!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on June 18, 2013, 12:38:15 PM
Fair enough Bannside about the money situation for the senior footballers, you seem to know much more than myself, had heard from several people just that that was the case. I do think however, that we both know that funding a manager these days involves more than financing the teams preparations, and certain personal expenses to the manager must be made available to attract the higher class of manager. I doubt Dawson asked for these, but I would be fairly confident ORourke is picking them up with Louth. The price you pay for success. I do believe that the county went after the cheapest option for senior manager position when deciding between the applicants. In terms of Aidan ORourke I'm well aware that no club nominated him. However, I distinctly remember him saying to the Irish News that he would be very interested if contacted or something similar (basically a come and get me plea to the county board). That not even a phone call was made to one of the best young intercounty managers around, who was clearly interested in the iob, shows a complete lack of ambition and it still would not surprise me in the least if the powers that be within the county didn't think we would have enough finance to fund his ultra professional set up. Can the county committee nominate candidates as well?
Don't get me wrong onefaircounty I would be delighted if we beat Louth, but I just think it would delay the inevitable and paper over the massive cracks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 18, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
yes really strange nag to have your first post about the one thing every belfast gael was talking about this weekend.the reason why im trying to ascertain whether the punch came from behind is to try and work out what the severity of the suspension should be.ye are all on here calling for the peelers to be brought into it[in my opinion the crown forces should only be brought into it under the worst of circumstances i.e striking from behind].by the way id like to wish young bradley a speedy recovery as he is definetely a kid with a bright future ahead of him in our games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on June 18, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
yes really strange nag to have your first post about the one thing every belfast gael was talking about this weekend.the reason why im trying to ascertain whether the punch came from behind is to try and work out what the severity of the suspension should be.ye are all on here calling for the peelers to be brought into it[in my opinion the crown forces should only be brought into it under the worst of circumstances i.e striking from behind].by the way id like to wish young bradley a speedy recovery as he is definetely a kid with a bright future ahead of him in our games.

If they both had have went toe to toe and Bradso had his jaw broken then there wouldn't have been much said about it. The fact that he was hit when he wasn't looking or ready means he was hit without provcation and if you or your son was punched in the street or on a pitch for that matter you'd be getting the crown forces as the Garda have no powers here :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 18, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
Heheheheheh - ;D Now Now MR2!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 18, 2013, 05:56:18 PM
oh and deary me-the best part of u ran  down your[ach u know the rest]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 19, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on June 17, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
I heard Declan Lynch of Lamh Dhearg arrived in America on Wednesday, only to get deported on the first plane home.

Apparently his 60 day sanction was already approved and he is now unavailable!

Any other lads heading out?

Saw James Laverty from Cargin on a list.

Lynch definitely not play then? Tough break for LD football and hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 19, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
yes lynch is a good player and will be missed.i dont think LD,s panel is that strong to absorb too many absentees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 19, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on June 17, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
I heard Declan Lynch of Lamh Dhearg arrived in America on Wednesday, only to get deported on the first plane home.

Apparently his 60 day sanction was already approved and he is now unavailable!

Any other lads heading out?

Saw James Laverty from Cargin on a list.

Lynch definitely not play then? Tough break for LD football and hurling.

Lamhs have a big panel, they'll do rightly and he'll be back for championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 19, 2013, 04:11:09 PM
Rossa for the Bergerac.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 19, 2013, 05:10:06 PM
i disagree,lamhs are very strong up front with a weak defence.lynch probably their key man in defence.hammers their first sub and that doesnt strike me as a very strong panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
Well they get Cargin in first round. Will that Cargin great Magill have a field day against that ropey defence?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on June 19, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
Well they get Cargin in first round. Will that Cargin great Magill have a field day against that ropey defence?
Some irony in a St Galls man talking about transferred players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on June 19, 2013, 10:14:06 PM
yeah antrim could have done with a ball winner like magill this year.think he cud make the difference in a tight game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on June 19, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
Well they get Cargin in first round. Will that Cargin great Magill have a field day against that ropey defence?
Some irony in a St Galls man talking about transferred players.

We are very good at laughing at ourselves, and very aware that it happens, problem is everyone thinks we are the only ones doing it  ;)

Magill is a cracking footballer and worries me as a Galls man that he is playing for Cargin, will be hard to stop when he's on the ball, hopefully we stop that ball going in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 20, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
That was some win for the Rossa reserves the other night over St Gall's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 20, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
That was some win for the Rossa reserves the other night over St Gall's.

our goalkeeper threw the ball into the net in the last second of the game to lose the game ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 20, 2013, 11:39:43 PM
I heard Gall's fecked up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 20, 2013, 11:39:43 PM
I heard Gall's fecked up.


Yeah enough to win two games, thats the way it goes. St Teresas V Rossa final, only one winner there then ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2013, 12:43:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 21, 2013, 12:24:36 AM
Could be the last ever game in Casement. Quiz goers take note.

Joe Frank Boyle scored the last goal in the real Casement Park.

I'm looking to play in the South Antrim championship this year, so lets wait and see ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 02, 2013, 09:05:52 PM
First post-here goes...

Now that the ridiculousness of the Intercounty season has gone for us Saffrons whats everyones opinions of championship? Hard to see past St Galls for SFC yet again. Cant see Cargins latest addition being enough to change the tide. So unless Lamhs can get their act together its deja vu.

for me the intermediate will be most competitive. Lot of teams in with a squeak.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2013, 10:35:12 PM
Are ahoghill kn the intermediate? If it's all division 2 teams could be tight as very tight at the top. I see portglenone put one over their neighbours.

Relegation in division 1 looks more interesting than the championship. Maybe with a lot less county players cargin will be better this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2013, 10:50:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 02, 2013, 10:35:12 PM
Are ahoghill kn the intermediate? If it's all division 2 teams could be tight as very tight at the top. I see portglenone put one over their neighbours.

Relegation in division 1 looks more interesting than the championship. Maybe with a lot less county players cargin will be better this year.

With Antrim usually out before July I don't that as a reason for Cargin winning the championship, be more worried with Lamhs concentrating on football this year both club and county it will most defo bring them on. Their game against each other should be a cracker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2013, 10:53:46 PM
I'd expect a fair bit of needle in it too. Should be interesting. Expect cargin to win but lmh dhearg would probably give you boys a better game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 08:52:31 AM
I think Ahoghill are in the SFC. Still will be a tight competition with portglenone, rasharkin, teresa's, aghagallon and even the likes of Glenravel and St Enda's capable of putting it up to anyone.

any dates fixed yet for 1st rounds? The county admin really take the piss on that guestbook if you ask a question. Pure ignorance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
The dates must be on the county web-site somewhere but I can't find them.

They used to stick them in admin but they don't seem to be there any more.

I'd expect Portglenone, Rasharkin to be the main contenders in IFC though maybe Ballymena could be in there too as they won it 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 10:03:31 AM
Portglenone were in a SFC final quite recently. Now not guaranteed to win an Intermediate! A lot has been said recently about bad managers and crap county boards but most of the blame lies with the clubs. Not enough work is put in at club level to generate quality players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 10:03:31 AM
Portglenone were in a SFC final quite recently. Now not guaranteed to win an Intermediate! A lot has been said recently about bad managers and crap county boards but most of the blame lies with the clubs. Not enough work is put in at club level to generate quality players.

Quality players in a lot of clubs, just that they don't all want or have been picked for the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
The Portglenone team were all of a very similar age though (that brilliant Stinsons squad from the late 90s) and have all kind of went past their peak so they have tailed off a bit. The improvement themselves and Ahoghill have made with that amalgamation has been massive so there must be some good work going in there. Creggan and GNM seemed to have great underage work done but seemed to tail off.

There is more quality than is in our county squad but I'm not sure that's an excuse for this year. In hurling or football at times in our county a lot of our best don't seem to want to play which is a real pity.

Can anyone find a link to the championship fixtures?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on July 03, 2013, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 10:03:31 AM
Portglenone were in a SFC final quite recently. Now not guaranteed to win an Intermediate! A lot has been said recently about bad managers and crap county boards but most of the blame lies with the clubs. Not enough work is put in at club level to generate quality players.

Quality players in a lot of clubs, just that they don't all want or have been picked for the county

quality players ,doubtful, I watch Antrim club championship football and don't see much quality other than St Galls and then a few other decent club teams. There are players not playing for the county who would improve the squad. But my main thought is with your under age consistantly being poor, it confirms the poor coaching at club level. Not a college at mac rory level from Antrim county tells its own sad story, shocking really. Look at the num of colleges in Belfast that are boys only, what an opportunity missed year in and year out. But it takes volunteers being prepared to put lots of their time for years to get the quality improved. Also the county board have to take responsibility for not being able to presuad the Ulster council or generate their own funds to flood the place with coaches similiar to Dublin. Derry county board would be in the same boat re Derry city, but they get away with to an extand due to the community committment of prodominatly south derry and a few north Derry clubs to produce county standard players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on July 03, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
I know that their are Senior Football c'ship fixtures down for Sunday 11th August and Senior Hurling on Sept 1st. There must be a full list somewhere...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2013, 11:02:23 AM
Yeah jdyok but just can't put my finger on them...

shawshank I suspect you are unfortunately right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 11:40:30 AM
Imtommygun you make a good point. Having saw portglenone twice this year they seem almost a team in transition. They have a good batch of players coming through though which was evident in last years u21 side which lost to the Johnnies. Questionable reffing that day kept the Johnnies in it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 11:40:30 AM
Imtommygun you make a good point. Having saw portglenone twice this year they seem almost a team in transition. They have a good batch of players coming through though which was evident in last years u21 side which lost to the Johnnies. Questionable reffing that day kept the Johnnies in it!

Aul ref winning games again ;) Fcuk they must have some brown evelopes now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 01:28:58 PM
Never said that at all and know fine well it wouldnt happen mate. and I wasnt complaining believe me!!

Have a good 1 tonight Milltown  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on July 03, 2013, 02:31:55 PM
Not great but I'm sure you can work it out.


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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2013, 03:02:15 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 01:28:58 PM
Never said that at all and know fine well it wouldnt happen mate. and I wasnt complaining believe me!!

Have a good 1 tonight Milltown  :D

Aye ear muffs already in place!! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 03, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
Good man CHB. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on July 04, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
Big 2 points at the bottom for Moneyglass last night at home to St Pauls. Getting interesting for relegation. Can see it being a 4 way fight to the finish with Aldergrove on 7 Moneyglass on 6 and the other 2 on 4. This is the championship for those teams. Wouldnt fancy going down as Div 2 wouldnt be easy to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
As admin on county website wont point anyone in any direction to find championship fixtures or dates here it is as far as i know this is correct times may change slightly:

Fri Aug 9th
JFC 7.15PM Eire og v McDermotts @ St Pauls

JFC 7.15PM Davitts v Pearses @ Rossa

SFC 7.15PM Aldergrove v Creggan @ Randalstown

Sat Aug 10th
JFC 6pm St Agnes v Ballycastle @ St Teresas

IFC 5.45PM Portglenone v Dunloy @ Ahoghill
IFC 7.30PM Rasharkin v Tir na nog @ Ahoghill

Sun Aug 11th
IFC 12.45PM St Teresas v Gortnamona @ Lamh dhearg
SFC 2.15PM St Johns v St Galls @ Lamh dhearg

IFC 2PM Glenravel V Aghagallon @ Moneyglass

IFC 5.30PM Glenavy v All Saints @ Creggan
SFC 7PM Cargin v Ahoghill @ Creggan


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on July 18, 2013, 10:50:07 AM
Thanks Culchie11...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on July 18, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Quote from: jdyok on July 18, 2013, 10:50:07 AM
Thanks Culchie11...
Could be interesting for Naomh Gall against the Johnnies.  2 straight reds last night in the league game according to twitter:

'straight reds for Enda McKenna of naomheoinclg and Gallagher of St Galls.'

Enda McKenna for St John's...and Aidan Gallagher for Gall's.  I believe both may have been of the soft variety but straight reds nonetheless...4 week suspension would extend past Aug 11th!  Strength in depth may be enough to cushion the blow for the Milltown men though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on July 20, 2013, 03:01:03 PM
yeah was at game ref coyler was shocking.2 red cards were very soft.he also gave galls a ridiculous penalty which left even the galls players scratching their heads.gaga will be a big loss for galls as burkeys in america.anyone know if kevin mc gourtys even in training?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on July 20, 2013, 03:32:39 PM
He was training away last night ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on July 21, 2013, 12:16:18 PM
has he kicked any ball this year.havent seen or heard of him at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 22, 2013, 01:40:50 PM
Quote from: jftj on July 20, 2013, 03:01:03 PM
yeah was at game ref coyler was shocking.2 red cards were very soft.he also gave galls a ridiculous penalty which left even the galls players scratching their heads.gaga will be a big loss for galls as burkeys in america.anyone know if kevin mc gourtys even in training?

Big loss surely, sure look at Antrim v Tipp last year without him.

But Galls have big O'Hare and few others well fit to play midfield. McGourty will play and Kelly, A McClean etc could all play there and not look out of place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on July 24, 2013, 11:34:05 AM
Championship fixtures are now up on county website fixtures section just go under football and then championship, it's only 1st round of fixtures but hey at least there up!!

Quarter finals are weekend of 24th/25th August.

Semis are weekend of 7th/8th sept

SFC final is sat 28th sept.

IFC/JFC finals are both 6th oct.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on July 31, 2013, 10:29:38 PM
No real talk on here about the senior management for the footballers next season, I saw there the county board have asked the clubs for nominations. Who will be put forward? Adams, Harbinson? Anyone else?
A name that I haven't heard mentioned at all, and who I think would fit the bill perfectly, is Peter Canavan, if he would be interested. Took on Fermanagh at their lowest ebb in Division 4 after a disastrous season where many of the key players opted out due to problems with the management (sounds familiar) and got them promoted. From what I can see has all the best players in Fermanagh playing (albeit bar Quigley, who seems beyond management) and seems to have their team extremely fit, well prepared and playing to a solid defensive system. I believe he has done a very good job with them and would have had more joy in the Championship if the players at his disposal were more talented (in saying that beating a Division 1 bound Westmeath away was impressive). Seems to have squeezed the most out of a very limited bunch and should he come to Antrim I would say all the best players in the county would be out playing and he (well, more importantly we) would have much more success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2013, 11:22:59 PM
Cargin give us a hammering the other night up there, we've serious injuries and I think we won't get past either Lamhs or Cargin. The Johnnies will fancy their chances also I'd say (they are cocky) Too many miles on the clock I think for us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 05, 2013, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2013, 11:22:59 PM
Cargin give us a hammering the other night up there, we've serious injuries and I think we won't get past either Lamhs or Cargin. The Johnnies will fancy their chances also I'd say (they are cocky) Too many miles on the clock I think for us

Who are the serious injuries??

That time of year again...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2013, 12:28:24 AM
We've lads away and boys only coming back from injury, we haven't strung together a decent run in the league with a regular team also, just saying. Think this will be the most competitive championship in years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2013, 09:00:19 AM
Bookies are rarely wrong MR and you're raging hot favourites. Lamh Dhearg second favourites too strangely.

With Ciaran Close, Gerard O'Boyle, Tomas McCann and MIchael Magill in the Cargin forward line (I see Tony Scullion seems to play there now too) you'd have thought Cargin could mount some sort of challenge but these boys are not exactly new kids on the block and have never done it before.  Hopefully they can at least give you a game this year.

Cargin have done you boys in tghe league many times over the years. Means nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2013, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2013, 09:00:19 AM
Bookies are rarely wrong MR and you're raging hot favourites. Lamh Dhearg second favourites too strangely.

With Ciaran Close, Gerard O'Boyle, Tomas McCann and MIchael Magill in the Cargin forward line (I see Tony Scullion seems to play there now too) you'd have thought Cargin could mount some sort of challenge but these boys are not exactly new kids on the block and have never done it before.  Hopefully they can at least give you a game this year.

Cargin have done you boys in tghe league many times over the years. Means nothing.

I know tommy, and I'm not talking up the other teams, our lads are gunning for another title and probably feel they left something behind in Ulster last year. So they are hungry but the Cargin lads really steam rolled us big time, and not early in the season but just before championship.

The game I'm looking forward to is (if Cargin win their game) Lamh V Cargin should be a cracker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
Lamhs versus Cargin should be interesting. I would expect a few handbags at it too as they seem to have a history.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2013, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2013, 09:38:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
Lamhs versus Cargin should be interesting. I would expect a few handbags at it too as they seem to have a history.
Only if Cargin are losing.

Should be X rated lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on August 06, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
Folks, I assume Casement wont host any of the football championship finals?

Think all the championships are wide open this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 06, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on August 06, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
Folks, I assume Casement wont host any of the football championship finals?

Think all the championships are wide open this year.
Why wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on August 06, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
Thought it was closed for redevelopment? Or has that been stalled?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 06, 2013, 01:18:36 PM
As far as I was aware plans had been submitted, nothing more. Not sure that a decision has been made, surely it will remain open until the redevelopment is given the green light?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on August 06, 2013, 02:16:04 PM
Casement will not be hosting any games. Although planning hasn't been approved the stadium needs to pass safety inspections etc to host games. The cost of these inspections are prohibitive thus no games at Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 06, 2013, 03:36:10 PM
Any word on nominations for the football manager if any? Nominations supposed to be done last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 06, 2013, 03:48:40 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on August 06, 2013, 02:16:04 PM
Casement will not be hosting any games. Although planning hasn't been approved the stadium needs to pass safety inspections etc to host games. The cost of these inspections are prohibitive thus no games at Casement.
Really? Why is this? What makes the stadium any different from last year that would require safety inspections? Or is that an annual thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on August 06, 2013, 04:29:04 PM
Each year Casement Park requires a safety certificate from Belfast City Council. A full safety check would cost a considerable amount of money. It probably isn't worth spending that money if the stadium is going to be replaced anyway. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2013, 05:11:21 PM
Senior Football Championship

Naomh Seamas v Ciceam an Creagán - Creggan by 7

St John's v Naomh Gall - St Galls by 4 

Clan na hEireann Carragan v    Naomh Mhuire Achadh Eochaille - Cargin by 13
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on August 09, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2013, 05:11:21 PM
Senior Football Championship

Naomh Seamas v Ciceam an Creagán - Creggan by 7

St John's v Naomh Gall - St Galls by 4 

Clan na hEireann Carragan v    Naomh Mhuire Achadh Eochaille - Cargin by 13

I see Locky McCurdy named in the Johnnies championship squad on the county website. Is this the original Locky or a son? If it is THE Locky he must be hitting 40+!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2013, 08:15:01 PM
Locky senior must be near 50??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 10, 2013, 01:09:59 AM
Does goals does he not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 10, 2013, 05:00:12 PM
locky is 46 going on 18.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 11, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
johhnies to win by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
Johnnies lost by 10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 11, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 11, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
johhnies to win by 4

Don't think they even scored 4 from play! Brutal stuff. St Galls even with the players they had missing hit some cracking scores today but would have expected more of a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2013, 05:40:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 11, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 11, 2013, 01:21:35 PM
johhnies to win by 4

Don't think they even scored 4 from play! Brutal stuff. St Galls even with the players they had missing hit some cracking scores today but would have expected more of a game.

Yeah was expecting a serious effort from the Johnnies, wasn't at the game but was heard we were very good considering the team was missing a lot of "first timers" good to see and hopefully we will be not as bad as I predicted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 11, 2013, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2013, 05:59:44 PM
It's about time people stopped expecting big things from the Johnnies. We hear the same bollix every year and they are yet to back it up.A very average outfit.

Why is Adams being touted as the next Antrim manager when clearly the only team he has managed has not been a success?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on August 12, 2013, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 11, 2013, 05:59:44 PM
It's about time people stopped expecting big things from the Johnnies. We hear the same bollix every year and they are yet to back it up.A very average outfit.

Couldnt agree more!  Ive watched them alot this year! Some decent players, but made look like a division 2 team yesterday.  Big talk in papers doesnt help!  And they must now be embarrassed that the bought and wore a 'black' rig!!!

Its all about Cargin, Lamhs and Galls! No one else really count at present!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 12, 2013, 12:45:16 PM
st galls gave us a lesson yday and played some great stuff.only the lamhs have an outside chance of beating this present galls team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on August 12, 2013, 01:34:42 PM
Easy to play lovely stuff against poor opponents. Johnnies are a very bad team yet they are 4th best in the county!
Ridiculous. Galls will waltz through this year winning at a canter again. They might work up a sweat against lamhs or cargin but will win.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on August 12, 2013, 02:40:06 PM
St galls are not the same force - kelly and pollock were the stand out players with k mc gourty making a foul of himself in middle of the park, well off the mark.
St johns were very disappointing with no attacking options outside of the high ball in.

LD are the only team to challenge them? Creggan are a better challenge than LD - currently LD are the 4th best team in antrim and that is not a big speak.
Plenty of football left to be played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 12, 2013, 03:15:34 PM
Fancy cargin to beat lambs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on August 12, 2013, 03:48:42 PM
Was that Kevin McGourty?? It sounded like him but the geansai was a tad snug on the oul belly lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 18, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
not too long now til rossa will be back down to div2 obscurity for another 10 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 18, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
not too long now til rossa will be back down to div2 obscurity for another 10 years

Away to St Brids and home to Moneyglass and still in the championship ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 18, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
 :ou sticking up for ur old evicted neighbours up the lane darren?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 18, 2013, 05:56:16 PM
actually would prefer mgass went down.shithole of a place to go up to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2013, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: jftj on August 18, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
:ou sticking up for ur old evicted neighbours up the lane darren?

Just stating facts, and that was the worst team we had out for championship in over 11 years and yous didn't take advantage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 19, 2013, 04:01:34 PM
Moneyglass a shithole of a place to go to? Some Gael you are, typical of someone who would declare themselves as an antrim man but nothing in them to back it up.  I have travelled to belfast on Wednesday evening to play teams in falls park or cherryvale and wouldn't complain a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 19, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
its like a timewarp going up there with so called supporters hanging over the fence spouting all sorts of bollix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 19, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
Eff me, Dawson got another year  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 19, 2013, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on August 19, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
Eff me, Dawson got another year  :o

get away to f**k?

You joking?

Moneyglass is a great place, dunno wtf that fella is talkin about, not everyone can live in a built up city.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 19, 2013, 10:36:50 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 19, 2013, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on August 19, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
Eff me, Dawson got another year  :o

get away to f**k?

You joking?

Moneyglass is a great place, dunno wtf that fella is talkin about, not everyone can live in a built up city.

Wish I was. Dunno whether to laugh or cry. It defies logic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2013, 10:53:16 PM
No harm to the man but i really hope that is not true.

If it is it shows a serious lack of ambition and /or money by the county board :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 19, 2013, 10:58:58 PM
Was announced on county Twitter. Place has gone into meltdown. Seems to be a lynch mob forming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2013, 11:00:34 PM
No harm to the man but he hadn't a clue. None whatsoever.

What's expected to change this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on August 19, 2013, 11:05:46 PM
It can't get any worse I suppose. The year has been an utter disaster between relegation, the Monaghan humiliation, player fall-outs. Think we must be the laughing stock of the country if that's the ambition we show. Would a fella who has proven to be such a disaster get another year in any other county? Doubt it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2013, 11:11:37 PM
It's unbelievable. Disgusted to be honest.

I have nothing personal against the man but last year was a disaster. Our worst since the nineties and that is saying something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
"@CJMcGourty13: Why could Antrim not of searched for manager such as Peter The Great, Geezer, Mickey Linden someone Young and a success background"

Indeed  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 20, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
This must be to divert attention away from this weekends decision to scrap the Novelty Act in Scor.  I can think of no other reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 08:53:18 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
"@CJMcGourty13: Why could Antrim not of searched for manager such as Peter The Great, Geezer, Mickey Linden someone Young and a success background"

Indeed  :D

Tony please dont quote someone who has clearly given limited at best commitment or loyalty to this county when discussing this topic. Does he have a clue how much Peter ('The Great'  ::)) is on with Fermanagh? No way Antrim could pay this type of money, they wouldn't be able to get one of his selectors.

Time to be realistic and not listen to the opinions of those lacking any sort of sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on August 20, 2013, 09:53:10 AM
In my opinion the county board should be ousted.  Frank is a complete muppet but these guys let him in through the door and are keeping it open.
Wheres the unity in the clubs?  Stand up and say enough is enough.

Why are we all paying a monthly subscription into club antrim for this b*llshit????????????
The man is getting a nice bit of cash for it two.  This is an outrage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 20, 2013, 11:03:29 AM
Anyone with any intel into the actual decision process? Who else was running/nominated?

If he has not made peace with the Cargin trio in advance of even running then this is a joke. That should have been a condition to any appointment in my book.

We as a county quite simply can't afford to have any factions/rows etc in camps. We always will however and it will be a long lone time before we step out of mediocrity, if we are even there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2013, 05:52:23 PM
Lets look at the positives, we can't be relegated!"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: No Soloing on August 20, 2013, 06:01:11 PM
There was some unsurprising abuse on twitter after the announcement. Prompted a response from the Antrim account
"@ClubAontroma: Some of the comments in relation to management appointments were way over the top. People need to take a look at themselves #gaanotsoccer" - led to more abuse (also unsurprisingly)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 20, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
Totally shocked that Dawson has been ratified for another year. I actually feel sorry for the man, he has managed to turn an entire county against him and is coming back for more. Unreal.
I think it's a bit silly though to blame your county board. It's your own clubs who voted him back in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2013, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: ck on August 20, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
Totally shocked that Dawson has been ratified for another year. I actually feel sorry for the man, he has managed to turn an entire county against him and is coming back for more. Unreal.
I think it's a bit silly though to blame your county board. It's your own clubs who voted him back in!

I heard he didn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on August 20, 2013, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
"@CJMcGourty13: Why could Antrim not of searched for manager such as Peter The Great, Geezer, Mickey Linden someone Young and a success background"

Indeed  :D

Christ Almighty, things are at a new low in the county.  Is "someone Young" a potential manager whose first name he can't remember??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 20, 2013, 10:38:03 PM
To read his tweets is a job of its own!  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on August 21, 2013, 12:37:01 AM
I think its hilarious to read of the 'county board' being at fault here. Who ratified this decision? The clubs. Clubs voted for FD to carry on - not the County Board, the clubs, each of which sends 2 deelgates to a county committee meeting.

As for the twitter response last night, that was a disgrace. The abuse aimed at the infamous 'county board' and Frank amounted to cyber bullying. No one else was even in the running! That's how interested our passionate 'supporters' are - one other nomination received and that fella pulled out. There's your level of interest among the county.

At least Dawson actively wants the job, he is most definitely committed to it and will give it the necessary time and energy. Is he the right man? Lets see. I think it would have been out of order to dump a guy after one year. Yes he needs to make amends and build bridges - I imagine he knows that himself.

Leading the twitter charge last night was Brendan Crossan - at least the Irish News have nailed their colours to the mast. Frank has no chance with that lot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on August 21, 2013, 12:51:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
"@CJMcGourty13: Why could Antrim not of searched for manager such as Peter The Great, Geezer, Mickey Linden someone Young and a success background"

Indeed  :D

Peter the great couldn't won a Championship with Errigal on the three years he was there, as soon as he left A new manager came in and won it   :o hasn't won a championship match in Ulster yet with Fermanagh in two years, and that is with as much investment as any team could wish for, why would you think that will improve matters. Linden is wet between the ears. Geezer by all means, has proven ability, but his total commitment approach would have resulted in Scullion getting the road also, he won't do the conditioning stuff by his own admission in the Gaelic life, never mind travel on the team bus, regardless of how legitimate his reason was, in Geezers worlds that gassing material.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:09:12 AM
Was doing the line at the Rossa Johnnies game last night, cracking game, thought Rossa were going to run away with it but managed to stop playing at the start of the second half to let the Johnnies back in.

Rossa will be kicking themselves, they managed to get in front near the death but allowed the Johnnies back with leaving things wide open. Won't be too many complaints from Hardstation, I'd a few of those Rossa lads will have a great future in an Antrim shirt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2013, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:09:12 AM
Was doing the line at the Rossa Johnnies game last night, cracking game, thought Rossa were going to run away with it but managed to stop playing at the start of the second half to let the Johnnies back in.

Rossa will be kicking themselves, they managed to get in front near the death but allowed the Johnnies back with leaving things wide open. Won't be too many complaints from Hardstation, I'd a few of those Rossa lads will have a great future in an Antrim shirt


Do the Johnnies have many back from last year MR2?? Who do they meet in the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:18:32 AM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2013, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:09:12 AM
Was doing the line at the Rossa Johnnies game last night, cracking game, thought Rossa were going to run away with it but managed to stop playing at the start of the second half to let the Johnnies back in.

Rossa will be kicking themselves, they managed to get in front near the death but allowed the Johnnies back with leaving things wide open. Won't be too many complaints from Hardstation, I'd a few of those Rossa lads will have a great future in an Antrim shirt


Do the Johnnies have many back from last year MR2?? Who do they meet in the final?

They will play st Enda's another decent team that's had a bitta success lately. From last years team young McCurdy and Johnston. I'm sure the centre half back Donal played big lad not a cultured footballer by any means but I'd say they are not as good as last years team.

Yous will hardly be going for 3 in a row up there will ya's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2013, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:18:32 AM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2013, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:09:12 AM
Was doing the line at the Rossa Johnnies game last night, cracking game, thought Rossa were going to run away with it but managed to stop playing at the start of the second half to let the Johnnies back in.

Rossa will be kicking themselves, they managed to get in front near the death but allowed the Johnnies back with leaving things wide open. Won't be too many complaints from Hardstation, I'd a few of those Rossa lads will have a great future in an Antrim shirt


Do the Johnnies have many back from last year MR2?? Who do they meet in the final?

They will play st Enda's another decent team that's had a bitta success lately. From last years team young McCurdy and Johnston. I'm sure the centre half back Donal played big lad not a cultured footballer by any means but I'd say they are not as good as last years team.

Yous will hardly be going for 3 in a row up there will ya's?

Yeah St Endas going strong after winning the Ulster u16s. Should be a good game. Yeah we are going for 3 in a row. Play our nearest and dearest Slaughtneil in the final, again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 21, 2013, 10:39:52 AM
Was at the other minor semi final. A sharp and well organised St Endas were just a bit too strong for Sean Stinsons 2-08 to 1-07. I had a couple of lads playing and its a quiet house this morning - but they will rue a couple of missed goal chances and weren't that far away.

Stinsons played St Johns in a league game last week and only lost by two, so I would see the final as well open. Should be a good final and wouldn't like to call it either way.

St Endas have the outstanding young player in the county right now. Show me a dozen Ruairi Scotts in the county conveyor belt and Im telling you we would have brighter days ahead! Has got the lot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 21, 2013, 10:39:52 AM
Was at the other minor semi final. A sharp and well organised St Endas were just a bit too strong for Sean Stinsons 2-08 to 1-07. I had a couple of lads playing and its a quiet house this morning - but they will rue a couple of missed goal chances and weren't that far away.

Stinsons played St Johns in a league game last week and only lost by two, so I would see the final as well open. Should be a good final and wouldn't like to call it either way.

St Endas have the outstanding young player in the county right now. Show me a dozen Ruairi Scotts in the county conveyor belt and Im telling you we would have brighter days ahead! Has got the lot.

Great to hear Bannside, like I said earlier if the Rossa lads stick to football they could be a great outfit in a few years, but I doubt it. Hardstation will tell ya that while they are winning football they are also winning hurling, tyhe lure of hurling far greater than football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 21, 2013, 11:24:35 AM
True MR - a lot of the natural talented athletes and sportsmen excel at both football and hurling. That in itself is not helpful to either, but true that most dual players I know do have a preference to play small ball.

Its no coincidence that Rossa won the Paul Mc Girr tournament (for the county u-16 champions across Ulster) in 2011, and St Endas went on to keep the trophy in Antrim in 2012.

I saw most minor games this year, including Rossa, and theres no doubt that there is genuine talent out there. Maybe not enough to get 15-20 together in the one age group, but without doubt half a dozen in each year group that hopefully will come through to wear Saffron in the next few years.

Just need the structures and management teams to be in place to support this. That's a bigger challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 21, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
Afternoon gents. Not much conversation regarding the upcoming q/fs.

St Paul's v ODR
Moneyglass v St Gall's
St Brigid's v Creggan
Lamh Dhearg v Cargin

2 very straight forward winners for me, Gall's/Creggan  IMO. The other two? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2013, 12:33:18 PM
St. Pauls and ourselves could play 100 times and we would win 50 each.

I fancy Cargin to beat Lámh Dhearg.

if yous are so inseperable, surely there would have be at least 20 draws in there with 40 wins each !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
Cargin and St Pauls for me.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2013, 04:15:16 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2013, 12:33:18 PM
St. Pauls and ourselves could play 100 times and we would win 50 each.

I fancy Cargin to beat Lámh Dhearg.

if yous are so inseperable, surely there would have be at least 20 draws in there with 40 wins each !!
Nah, we never draw.

I must say as a referee the Rossa management are a breath of fresh air, (set them up for a fall now) they was no bullshite from them and when one or two subs said anything Brian gave them an earfull, I wish all clubs could manage their lines like that. The best yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2013, 04:28:33 PM
Balances out with Aidan Hamill. ;)

Yeah I haven't had the pleasure this year ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 22, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
Looking at fixtures this weekend surely there must be a clash for a couple/few of the Under 21 hurlers and the football championship? Are there any St Pauls or Rossa boys caught by both? Assume Creggan caught with Conor McCann playing both?

If so surely their club championship matchs could have been moved by the county to the Sunday???

If this hasn't been considered or has and been rejected this is a disgrace - how can we put our best foot forward on the national stage without players who are playing for their clubs (rightly or wrongly, it is the clubs who got them to where they are today so I am guessing that is where loyalty may sway).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 22, 2013, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 22, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
Looking at fixtures this weekend surely there must be a clash for a couple/few of the Under 21 hurlers and the football championship? Are there any St Pauls or Rossa boys caught by both? Assume Creggan caught with Conor McCann playing both?

If so surely their club championship matchs could have been moved by the county to the Sunday???

If this hasn't been considered or has and been rejected this is a disgrace - how can we put our best foot forward on the national stage without players who are playing for their clubs (rightly or wrongly, it is the clubs who got them to where they are today so I am guessing that is where loyalty may sway).

Just actually seen this on county website:

Name : Johnny21 August 2013
Are there any changes to the senior football c'chip games this weekend, due to the u21 hurlers playing c'chip on sat in thurles. Would like the think players such as mc greevy (st galls) & mc Guinness (Rossa) Wudnt have to miss one or the other.

Answer:
no there are no changes.


We are a fooking joke. Why can, in one fell swoop, the matches not be moved to the Sunday evening/afternoon rather than the Saturday?
I appreciate it must be a nightmare to organise fixtures and I appreciate people are two easy to bash but this is disgraceful.
We are a poor dual country in no real interest of changing that status.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 22, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
unbelievable how these johhnies youngsters are overlooked.mr2 reckons great futures in county shirts for the beaten team.johnnies going  for mfc treble and hold u21 fc.going for mhc treble and hold u21hc and yet year after year we are under-represented in the county teams-we must just be a very lucky team.conor johnston was the games outstanding player  the other night and it wasnt even close.donal nugent  is 16 years old and  controls centre half like a veteran ,if you are looking for future stars i think you may be looking in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
unbelievable how these johhnies youngsters are overlooked.mr2 reckons great futures in county shirts for the beaten team.johnnies going  for mfc treble and hold u21 fc.going for mhc treble and hold u21hc and yet year after year we are under-represented in the county teams-we must just be a very lucky team.conor johnston was the games outstanding player  the other night and it wasnt even close.donal nugent  is 16 years old and  controls centre half like a veteran ,if you are looking for future stars i think you may be looking in the wrong direction.

And the point is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
yeah i think rossa and ourselves are in the same boat.kids these days usually pick one or the other after minor which i believe is stupid and lazy.Only if you make senior county should you be thinking of giving up a sport which youve played all your life.many of these kids are equally as talented at both.conor johnston and james connolly had great games the other night but its anyones guess how much senior football they will play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
unbelievable how these johhnies youngsters are overlooked.mr2 reckons great futures in county shirts for the beaten team.johnnies going  for mfc treble and hold u21 fc.going for mhc treble and hold u21hc and yet year after year we are under-represented in the county teams-we must just be a very lucky team.conor johnston was the games outstanding player  the other night and it wasnt even close.donal nugent  is 16 years old and  controls centre half like a veteran ,if you are looking for future stars i think you may be looking in the wrong direction.

And the point is?
the point is the point that was made
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2013, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
unbelievable how these johhnies youngsters are overlooked.mr2 reckons great futures in county shirts for the beaten team.johnnies going  for mfc treble and hold u21 fc.going for mhc treble and hold u21hc and yet year after year we are under-represented in the county teams-we must just be a very lucky team.conor johnston was the games outstanding player  the other night and it wasnt even close.donal nugent  is 16 years old and  controls centre half like a veteran ,if you are looking for future stars i think you may be looking in the wrong direction.

And the point is?
the point is the point that was made

Are you saying there is some bias?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2013, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
yeah i think rossa and ourselves are in the same boat.kids these days usually pick one or the other after minor which i believe is stupid and lazy.

If a club trains twice a week in both codes and both managers demand attendance at every session then playing dual places too much pressure on the player both physically and mentally. With a bit of common sense it could still be done but many would argue that it would be hard/impossible to compete for honours if you split training 50/50.

*common sense between the hurling and football fraternity is probably asking to much


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 24, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 23, 2013, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
yeah i think rossa and ourselves are in the same boat.kids these days usually pick one or the other after minor which i believe is stupid and lazy.

If a club trains twice a week in both codes and both managers demand attendance at every session then playing dual places too much pressure on the player both physically and mentally. With a bit of common sense it could still be done but many would argue that it would be hard/impossible to compete for honours if you split training 50/50.

*common sense between the hurling and football fraternity is probably asking to much
yeah thats the problem .2 hurling and 1 football session per week and vice versa should be easily managed which means the dual player only does 1 extra session per week.if the kid is good enough the respective managers should be happy enough with that.a lot of these talented kids are not prepared to give this[though they maybe lift weights 3 times per week]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 24, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 23, 2013, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
unbelievable how these johhnies youngsters are overlooked.mr2 reckons great futures in county shirts for the beaten team.johnnies going  for mfc treble and hold u21 fc.going for mhc treble and hold u21hc and yet year after year we are under-represented in the county teams-we must just be a very lucky team.conor johnston was the games outstanding player  the other night and it wasnt even close.donal nugent  is 16 years old and  controls centre half like a veteran ,if you are looking for future stars i think you may be looking in the wrong direction.

And the point is?
the point is the point that was made

Are you saying there is some bias?yes almost all antrim managers and selectors  at all age groups put boys from their own club  on these panels instead of the best players.one of a list of reasons why antrim continue to dissapoint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 24, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 23, 2013, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 22, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
unbelievable how these johhnies youngsters are overlooked.mr2 reckons great futures in county shirts for the beaten team.johnnies going  for mfc treble and hold u21 fc.going for mhc treble and hold u21hc and yet year after year we are under-represented in the county teams-we must just be a very lucky team.conor johnston was the games outstanding player  the other night and it wasnt even close.donal nugent  is 16 years old and  controls centre half like a veteran ,if you are looking for future stars i think you may be looking in the wrong direction.

And the point is?
the point is the point that was made

Are you saying there is some bias?yes almost all antrim managers and selectors  at all age groups put boys from their own club  on these panels instead of the best players.one of a list of reasons why antrim continue to dissapoint.

I was just giving my view, I thought the Rossa lads were a slicker team, and for most parts the better team. Rossa managed to stop playing and allow the Johnnies to score goals at will.

The lads you have mentioned are very good  and they have had some  great underage success recently. The problem is that when these lads reach senior for what ever reason they stop playing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 24, 2013, 07:54:16 PM
Any updates on tonight's games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: qubdub on August 24, 2013, 07:54:16 PM
Any updates on tonight's games?

0-7 to 0-4 for Naomh Gall HT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 24, 2013, 08:01:03 PM
Many thanks reliably informed Creggan winning 13 to 1-7 at present
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qubdub on August 24, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
CK 0-15 2-8 NB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
0-14 to 1-6 for Naomh Gall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 25, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
Cargin 2-09 Lamhs 1-08. Cargin played some good football, Lamhs never got going. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2013, 09:45:28 PM
Cargin Galls final then. Should be a tighter match this year. McGill and new management made fair difference in team, also not playing county for them too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2013, 12:02:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2013, 09:45:28 PM
Cargin Galls final then. Should be a tighter match this year. McGill and new management made fair difference in team, also not playing county for them too

is this not the sort of thing that gets stuck up on opposing changing rooms walls !
cue the printers around Creggan, Malone Rd and shaws Rd going into overdrive.
1/80 on were Wexford Hurlers yesterday, so strange things can happen !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 26, 2013, 06:57:21 AM
They are going to do a screen print of a contribution on a discussion board from someone who is a hurling man. Jasys times are bad. Hard to see anything other than what milltown predicted going on previous years records and that is all we can go on . Although with St. Paul's having beaten charging in the league and running st galls pretty close you never know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 26, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
No surprises at the weekend other than St Brigids drawing with Creggan thanks to a goal blasted by dual star  (Cushendall hurler) Ronan McGrady from a 20metre free past 11 keepers with the very last kick of the game. Some drama!

Galls should beat Pauls easily and no doubt Cargin will have the measure of Creggan (or Brigids).

Fancy Creggan to make no mistake in replay on Wednesday.

Fancy Galls to beat Cargin at their will in final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 26, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Gold on August 26, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
No surprises at the weekend other than St Brigids drawing with Creggan thanks to a goal blasted by dual star  (Cushendall hurler) Ronan McGrady from a 20metre free past 11 keepers with the very last kick of the game. Some drama!

Galls should beat Pauls easily and no doubt Cargin will have the measure of Creggan (or Brigids).

Fancy Creggan to make no mistake in replay on Wednesday.

Fancy Galls to beat Cargin at their will in final
agree 100 per cent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 26, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
I honestly think cargin will push I'd close, very close. I hope I'm wrong bit that's my honest opinion although we are starting to gain a bit of momentum with training now kicking in so maybe we will peak at the right time . It's all about timing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on August 27, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
At three senior championship games over the weekend:

Creggan - look very poor in defense but 16 points is good scoring - they may struggle again on wednesday
Stgalls - never got out of 2nd gear - toyed with moneyglass tbh
cargin - looked physical and very much up to the task

Championship heating up nice.

Prediction is  cargin st galls final and a mouth watering final it would be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 27, 2013, 01:00:42 PM
after last years toothless performance,i cannot understand people predicting cargin getting close to galls.think galls will win it for at least another 2 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 27, 2013, 08:05:23 PM
Folks where will the Antrim final be this year now that Casement is out of play? Hoping to get to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 27, 2013, 08:38:51 PM
Creggan? That's if they don't make the final themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on August 27, 2013, 09:51:36 PM
The smart money says Hannastown  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 28, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
So it hasn't been fixed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 09:10:01 AM
Neither it nor the hurling CK as far as I know..

Still would be sceptical of cargin beating st galls. They've been a million miles behind this past few times. Maybe if the final is in the south west that will help as they beat them last championship game there if I recall correctly.(though that was the year of the second chance)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 28, 2013, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on August 27, 2013, 09:51:36 PM
The smart money says Hannastown  ;)

What is the story with LD getting so many games?
Is it the case of where else in the city could hold it?
Not complaining as there is plenty of parking and the surface looks great but just interested.

When a club hosts do they get a percentage of the gate or a fixed fee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Big pitch and maybe a good surface but not a great venue for spectators I'd have thought.

Would be nice to see a final in the south west for a change. Likewise hurling in north antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Big pitch and maybe a good surface but not a great venue for spectators I'd have thought.

Would be nice to see a final in the south west for a change. Likewise hurling in north antrim.

Lamhs pitch has been perfect this year in fairness, there hasn't been too many complaining about the viewing of the games also.

We have beaten Cargin in the South West Tommy, only last year we hammered them in Creggan so I don't think the venue will have much bearing on the result, I think Cargin are an improved team recently, O'Bolye back (I know he's played a couple of seasons) and McGill playing will defo improve any team, us with a few injuries and lads getting on a bit this year might be right for Cargin to finally dethrone us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 12:03:10 PM
I think you'll hammer them wherever it is MR but it's high time considering the players Cargin have they at least give youse a game. I've went to a few of these games expecting something and they haven't even been competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 12:03:10 PM
I think you'll hammer them wherever it is MR but it's high time considering the players Cargin have they at least give youse a game. I've went to a few of these games expecting something and they haven't even been competitive.

True, and disappointing I'd say from a neutral's point of view
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 28, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
mick mc cann will have to at least break even on gaga for cargin to have a chance-a thing he rarely manages to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 28, 2013, 02:09:32 PM
Cargins new management team in place is very good and I think when the boys haven't been playing county will make a difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 12:03:10 PM
I think you'll hammer them wherever it is MR but it's high time considering the players Cargin have they at least give youse a game. I've went to a few of these games expecting something and they haven't even been competitive.

True, and disappointing I'd say from a neutral's point of view
From a neutral point of view the senior football championship has been disappointing for a good while.

The most interesting thing in senior football these days is the relegation dogfight in division 1.

I really hope Cargin can step up this year and at least make a game of it. A full forward line of Close, McCann and Magill should be able to be competitive with anyone.  I say should be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 28, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
mick mc cann will have to at least break even on gaga for cargin to have a chance-a thing he rarely manages to do.

Yeah you can have quality forwards like Cargin do but getting ball in is a different matter altogether. Being a bit bad claiming the final and the other quarter final and semi final yet to be played FFS!! St Paul's will be monitoring my posts  :o (they have already reported me!!) and post them up in the changing rooms before our game!!

If that were the case you'd do that for every game, print off something someone has printed and use it as a motivator!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on August 28, 2013, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Big pitch and maybe a good surface but not a great venue for spectators I'd have thought.

Would be nice to see a final in the south west for a change. Likewise hurling in north antrim.

Lamhs pitch has been perfect this year in fairness, there hasn't been too many complaining about the viewing of the games also.

We have beaten Cargin in the South West Tommy, only last year we hammered them in Creggan so I don't think the venue will have much bearing on the result, I think Cargin are an improved team recently, O'Bolye back (I know he's played a couple of seasons) and McGill playing will defo improve any team, us with a few injuries and lads getting on a bit this year might be right for Cargin to finally dethrone us

how would you know who was complaining or wasnt complaining?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on August 28, 2013, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 28, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Big pitch and maybe a good surface but not a great venue for spectators I'd have thought.

Would be nice to see a final in the south west for a change. Likewise hurling in north antrim.

Lamhs pitch has been perfect this year in fairness, there hasn't been too many complaining about the viewing of the games also.

We have beaten Cargin in the South West Tommy, only last year we hammered them in Creggan so I don't think the venue will have much bearing on the result, I think Cargin are an improved team recently, O'Bolye back (I know he's played a couple of seasons) and McGill playing will defo improve any team, us with a few injuries and lads getting on a bit this year might be right for Cargin to finally dethrone us

how would you know who was complaining or wasnt complaining?

I was at the hurling games and the two football games that have been played there already this year, to me there was plenty of room and there didn't seem to be anybody complaining about the spectating part of it, that was the post I was referring to from tommy.

Have you thoughts on the venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
i think corrigan is a better place for a cship match.lamhs is too open to the elements.always seems to be a big wind to contend with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
i think corrigan is a better place for a cship match.lamhs is too open to the elements.always seems to be a big wind to contend with.

Corrigan is in terrible condition. Surface is poor and the grass bank couldn't cater for a championship crowd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 30, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
i think corrigan is a better place for a cship match.lamhs is too open to the elements.always seems to be a big wind to contend with.

Corrigan is in terrible condition. Surface is poor and the grass bank couldn't cater for a championship crowd.
if they were to get cship games then the other grass banks opposite the hill could be opened up.more than enough space to cater for cship game.playing surface is fine also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:25:57 PM
Have heard Tom Daly has recently contacted all clubs crying out for a letter of support for the redevelopment of CP for planning permission. Attached was 'some important points' to add the letter of support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
i think corrigan is a better place for a cship match.lamhs is too open to the elements.always seems to be a big wind to contend with.

Corrigan is in terrible condition. Surface is poor and the grass bank couldn't cater for a championship crowd.
if they were to get cship games then the other grass banks opposite the hill could be opened up.more than enough space to cater for cship game.playing surface is fine also.

Would need to cut the other grass banks first of all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on August 30, 2013, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on August 30, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
i think corrigan is a better place for a cship match.lamhs is too open to the elements.always seems to be a big wind to contend with.

Corrigan is in terrible condition. Surface is poor and the grass bank couldn't cater for a championship crowd.
if they were to get cship games then the other grass banks opposite the hill could be opened up.more than enough space to cater for cship game.playing surface is fine also.

Would need to cut the other grass banks first of all.
only a days work to do that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 01:51:06 PM
Big games this Saturday, not sure where to go. Probably Ahoghill to see the IFC game too which should be tight and crabbit with it being a derby.

St Pauls will be no walkover for Galls on current form. But experience might get them through by 4 or 5.

i expect a tight game in the other semi with both sides finding form in their last games. Tough call. Anyone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
Cargin would be strong favourites - can't see anything else happening.

Portglenone Rasharkin should be a tight one. Would expect Rasharkin to maybe sneak it.

Galls should win easy.

Minor A final should be interesting. Be nice to maybe see someone different like st endas win it for a change. They seem to have done a lot of good work at underage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 01:51:06 PM
Big games this Saturday, not sure where to go. Probably Ahoghill to see the IFC game too which should be tight and crabbit with it being a derby.

St Pauls will be no walkover for Galls on current form. But experience might get them through by 4 or 5.

i expect a tight game in the other semi with both sides finding form in their last games. Tough call. Anyone?

On St Paul's current form? They have won 7 games this year! Won't be a walkover, we haven't had one since we beat Cargin last year in the semi's but we should win. Cargin should beat Creggan by 5/6 if they are serious about beating us in the final (which i think they will) Creggan seem beat before they play Cargin, maybe Creggan's new management will have instilled some belief in them I don't know but 'form' should see through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 03, 2013, 02:40:13 PM
Would Glenavy not be a good venue?

Fancy creggan on saturday - cargin down a few with injuries I believe.
St galls should have very little bother Id imagine.

St galls will have played the quarter/semi and final in the same pitch if it was LD??????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 01:51:06 PM
Big games this Saturday, not sure where to go. Probably Ahoghill to see the IFC game too which should be tight and crabbit with it being a derby.

St Pauls will be no walkover for Galls on current form. But experience might get them through by 4 or 5.

i expect a tight game in the other semi with both sides finding form in their last games. Tough call. Anyone?

On St Paul's current form? They have won 7 games this year! Won't be a walkover, we haven't had one since we beat Cargin last year in the semi's but we should win. Cargin should beat Creggan by 5/6 if they are serious about beating us in the final (which i think they will) Creggan seem beat before they play Cargin, maybe Creggan's new management will have instilled some belief in them I don't know but 'form' should see through

on st galls current form I said. They don't seem themselves but it would be no surprise to see them cruise through at the same time. Class shines.

otbar galls last game was in ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 03, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
Ahh you are quite correct - but they would have had 2 outings on it before the final right?

Is LD in concrete for the final then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: otbar on September 03, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
Ahh you are quite correct - but they would have had 2 outings on it before the final right?

Is LD in concrete for the final then?

No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
Nothings set in stone but I'll take a bet with anyone who wants it that the final will be in LD.

MR2 why are you not getting a cship game in the big ball? I see your clubmate is out twice too. Glad he has our lads game up 1st!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
Nothings set in stone but I'll take a bet with anyone who wants it that the final will be in LD.

MR2 why are you not getting a cship game in the big ball? I see your clubmate is out twice too. Glad he has our lads game up 1st!

I've ref'd a minor A championship game and lined one of the senior games, but haven't done a senior league game this year, I'm in no rush nor seek to be the main man, if I am picked to ref then grand if not, be no skin off my nose, I'd say though there is some bitching going on when these games are handed out :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 03:26:38 PM
Very diplomatic response  ;)

its almost as if you're being watched  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 03:26:38 PM
Very diplomatic response  ;)

its almost as if you're being watched  :P

Aye comes across like that I suppose but I'm happy enough at the minute and would try not critique another ref, all bets are off though when I'm playing and watching my own team ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 03, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2013, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: otbar on September 03, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
Ahh you are quite correct - but they would have had 2 outings on it before the final right?

Is LD in concrete for the final then?

No
Grass, I assume.

class  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 03, 2013, 04:35:28 PM
touche
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on September 03, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
To be honest I don't think there is a pitch or facilities in the city which is good enough to host a county final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on September 03, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
To be honest I don't think there is a pitch or facilities in the city which is good enough to host a county final.

Yous get the pitches and we'll win the championships ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on September 04, 2013, 03:04:26 PM
It is pretty funny to hear people complaining about the standard of the facilities or their suitability to host a fixture when we routinely post horrendous attendance figures at our finals, especially comparative to our neighouring counties. I genuinely think that we would find at least one ground in both Belfast and hinterland with more than enough space to host the final on the back of past attendance figures, but you'd find double the figures in any other county serious about GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 05, 2013, 08:06:07 AM
What are the injuries affecting cargin this weekend or is it just mind games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 05, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Going by what I hear there are 3 doubtful and one out for sure in the first 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 05, 2013, 02:21:41 PM
Minor Final tomorrow night has the potential to be a cracker. Some very good players on both sides and some of them are big fellas for minor. Will be a nice change to see a final in Sarsfields too. Not that Casement was ever anything but excellent. Johnnies will probably carry the tag of favorites for it but not by much.

otbar are you telling us theres an upset on the cards in Ahoghill?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 05, 2013, 03:37:05 PM
Players absent or not there is a potential shock on the cards - creggan play very very defensive and if they convert a goal or two its anybodys.
On paper it should be a straight win for cargin I would imagine but creggan brought them down to there level in the league and who is to say that this wont happen again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
Posted this on the hurling thread...

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast, other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000+.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 06, 2013, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: otbar on September 05, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Going by what I hear there are 3 doubtful and one out for sure in the first 15.

Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 07, 2013, 08:44:11 PM
Any results from cargin game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bigfrank on September 07, 2013, 08:45:41 PM
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final final score

Cargin 0-05  Creggan 0-02
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on September 07, 2013, 08:45:41 PM
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final final score

Cargin 0-05  Creggan 0-02

i thought our game was bad?  St Pauls played with one man past the halfway line!! Terrible game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bigfrank on September 07, 2013, 09:43:47 PM
Think the first half was top class stuff, was 2-1 at ht  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on September 07, 2013, 09:43:47 PM
Think the first half was top class stuff, was 2-1 at ht  :P

0-0 after 20 mins.

what do teams like Creggan get out of  a season if that's the way they want to play. 2 points in an hours football. holy f**k !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 08, 2013, 11:30:46 PM
Lads, I attended the Cargin creggan game and I have to be honest and say it was one of the worst games I ever saw. I hear young McFlynn was getting paid for his role as manager. He should pay back every penny. He made a complete joke of creggan and degraded the club cship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 09, 2013, 09:29:48 AM
I was also at the games in Ahoghill. The first match was poor, best team won in the end. The 2nd game however made the 1st match look like Dublin vs Kerry. Creggan returning 2 points in over an hours football is shocking. They didnt even kick many wides either. Cargin hit a lot of wides and were deserved winners with a very cosy 3 point win.

anyone know when the dates and venues for both finals will be announced? My money is still on Lamh Dhearg for the SFC Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 09, 2013, 09:29:48 AM
I was also at the games in Ahoghill. The first match was poor, best team won in the end. The 2nd game however made the 1st match look like Dublin vs Kerry. Creggan returning 2 points in over an hours football is shocking. They didnt even kick many wides either. Cargin hit a lot of wides and were deserved winners with a very cosy 3 point win.

anyone know when the dates and venues for both finals will be announced? My money is still on Lamh Dhearg for the SFC Final.
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They are out, Cargin beat them.............. I'll get me coat :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 09, 2013, 09:59:04 AM
All Dawsys fault!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 09, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
Football final Sat 28th 3pm in Ahoghill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 10:52:53 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 09, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
Football final Sat 28th 3pm in Ahoghill

Right, that should be grand, St Mary's pitch Crosskeys? Would the parking be plentyfull up there? So this must be first year in a while that both finals will be up teh country, Looks like I'll not be at the hurling replay ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 10, 2013, 07:26:03 AM
Grand? Nothing grand about it . Same time as all Ireland final is a disgrace. Numpties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2013, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 10, 2013, 07:26:03 AM
Grand? Nothing grand about it . Same time as all Ireland final is a disgrace. Numpties

Hurling is at 5 so no danger of heading down afterwards be lucky to catch the second half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2013, 08:18:26 AM
These boys are on form this year. Football final on same day as all ireland hurling final replay. Club games with the same players involved as the county team on the same day as an ai semi final. frank dawson reappointed for another year.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 10, 2013, 08:29:52 AM
If the previous rounds of the championship are anything to go by I don't envisage too many neutrals traveling to ahoghill to sacrifice missing a replay of last weeks epic . Maybe some non neutrals to id say ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 10, 2013, 08:52:42 AM
Why did none of you take me bet? Could have took a few bob off me. I'm bad at the old betting.

Ahoghill is a grand venue, lots of parking and plenty of stewards who ensured I was on my way home in no time on Saturday. Those complaining are either city boys that are too spoiled or begrudging bollockses. Take a leaf out of MR2's book - embrace it. Sure Galls can win anywhere!

I think its great to see a small club get it, especially Ahoghill as they have had a fair bit of bother down the years with unsavoury incidents from paramilitaries.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on September 10, 2013, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 10, 2013, 08:52:42 AM
Why did none of you take me bet? Could have took a few bob off me. I'm bad at the old betting.

Ahoghill is a grand venue, lots of parking and plenty of stewards who ensured I was on my way home in no time on Saturday. Those complaining are either city boys that are too spoiled or begrudging bollockses. Take a leaf out of MR2's book - embrace it. Sure Galls can win anywhere!

I think its great to see a small club get it, especially Ahoghill as they have had a fair bit of bother down the years with unsavoury incidents from paramilitaries.
i agree fra always found the people in that club to be sound.great example of a small club batting above their weight by sticking together and working very hard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
hearing reports of Aggies trying to get their JFC Semi final replay played on a Saturday as they know Davitts have 3 irish league players in their midst. Not exactly in the spirit of the game but more a win at any cost mentality.

also hear a few men from Milltown arent happy about the venue for the SGC either. At least 1 of whom is no stranger to a bit of gurning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
hearing reports of Aggies trying to get their JFC Semi final replay played on a Saturday as they know Davitts have 3 irish league players in their midst. Not exactly in the spirit of the game but more a win at any cost mentality.

also hear a few men from Milltown arent happy about the venue for the SGC either. At least 1 of whom is no stranger to a bit of gurning.

Won't make a difference where the game is played, two best teams again in the final, should be a cracker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
It cant be any worse than Saturdays snooze-a-thon thats for sure.

from a neutrals point of view St Galls are hot favourites which makes me think it will be an open game because Cargin will have to give it a lash.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 11, 2013, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
hearing reports of Aggies trying to get their JFC Semi final replay played on a Saturday as they know Davitts have 3 irish league players in their midst. Not exactly in the spirit of the game but more a win at any cost mentality.

also hear a few men from Milltown arent happy about the venue for the SGC either. At least 1 of whom is no stranger to a bit of gurning.

Think you might find slightly more to this. Aggies actually have players involved in the minor hurling final this sunday, which was the first date muted. too dark during the week so your into next weekend, all Ireland football on on sunday so Saturday it has to be. or do we ask a team to play without people involved in another gaa code over those involved with a soccer club. a soccer fixture should never come into it when fixing dates for our games esp semi finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Not sure of the ins and outs of it Gizzy but know theres a lot of finger pointing going on. Which suits me as it will add to the excitement of what already is a tasty looking replay. The 1st game was a classic JFC game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
The 1st game was a classic JFC game.

An oxymoron if ever there was one ;D

After two semi finalists only scoring 2 points we can only hope for better in the football final. Hopefully it'll be a tight game. Cargin could have a good FF line so I hope they use them and don't go too defensive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 11, 2013, 11:29:52 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Not sure of the ins and outs of it Gizzy but know theres a lot of finger pointing going on. Which suits me as it will add to the excitement of what already is a tasty looking replay. The 1st game was a classic JFC game.

Havent seen to much on here about the refix but the Hogan stand forum is that bad with them you need earplugs just to read it. lot of yapping over it, sure as one davits man told me yesterday, they could be missing 10 in the next game and still walk it as the last game was a one off. this may very well be the case, just cant understand the clammer over the refix. btw first game was a guddon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 11, 2013, 12:27:48 PM
Fra, if youve seen anything of Cargin this year, you cant possibly have St.Galls strong favourites! Especially after the league result in Toome!
Last weekends results stopped everyone in their tracks!  Dirty aul weekend afternoon in hog hill will be anything but a cracker!
But it is defo St.GALLS to lose - Cargin never seem to have the smooths for it!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 12:40:15 PM
Deary Me is an apt name when you come out with statements like that - go through the past 10 years league results and you will see Cargin probably beat St Galls 16 times in the 20 meetings. St Galls couldnt care less how they fare in league meetings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:18:32 AM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2013, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2013, 10:09:12 AM
Was doing the line at the Rossa Johnnies game last night, cracking game, thought Rossa were going to run away with it but managed to stop playing at the start of the second half to let the Johnnies back in.

Rossa will be kicking themselves, they managed to get in front near the death but allowed the Johnnies back with leaving things wide open. Won't be too many complaints from Hardstation, I'd a few of those Rossa lads will have a great future in an Antrim shirt


Bump

Do the Johnnies have many back from last year MR2?? Who do they meet in the final?

They will play st Enda's another decent team that's had a bitta success lately. From last years team young McCurdy and Johnston. I'm sure the centre half back Donal played big lad not a cultured footballer by any means but I'd say they are not as good as last years team.

Yous will hardly be going for 3 in a row up there will ya's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
What are the thoughts on the final being fixed the same day as the All Ireland hurling replay. Or do the football contingent not mind?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2013, 01:05:58 PM
What are the thoughts on the final being fixed the same day as the All Ireland hurling replay. Or do the football contingent not mind?

Annoyed big time, as I'd missed the first final due to something I'd committed to earlier on in the year so was looking to get to the replay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 17, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
hearing reports of Aggies trying to get their JFC Semi final replay played on a Saturday as they know Davitts have 3 irish league players in their midst. Not exactly in the spirit of the game but more a win at any cost mentality.

also hear a few men from Milltown arent happy about the venue for the SGC either. At least 1 of whom is no stranger to a bit of gurning.

Won't make a difference where the game is played, two best teams again in the final, should be a cracker

Don't worry fra, match put back now to after 5 to allow for the soccer men. After a lot of whining CCC have give in to our ground Gaelic crowd and changed the time of their championship semi final to suit them. They never cease to amaze me, CCC = J O K E
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 20, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 17, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
hearing reports of Aggies trying to get their JFC Semi final replay played on a Saturday as they know Davitts have 3 irish league players in their midst. Not exactly in the spirit of the game but more a win at any cost mentality.

also hear a few men from Milltown arent happy about the venue for the SGC either. At least 1 of whom is no stranger to a bit of gurning.

Won't make a difference where the game is played, two best teams again in the final, should be a cracker

Don't worry fra, match put back now to after 5 to allow for the soccer men. After a lot of whining CCC have give in to our ground Gaelic crowd and changed the time of their championship semi final to suit them. They never cease to amaze me, CCC = J O K E

Pity they didn't tell me..........had to find out for myself & then check it out. Communications in Antrim same as they ever were - shit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 20, 2013, 08:37:05 PM
when and where is the Intermediate final ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 20, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
Heard both junior and intermediate finals are to be played at lamh dhearg!

A doubleheader, think they are sun 6th October!

Heard also toland is ref for senior football final, in my opinion he deserves it too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2013, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 20, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
Heard both junior and intermediate finals are to be played at lamh dhearg!

A doubleheader, think they are sun 6th October!

Heard also toland is ref for senior football final, in my opinion he deserves it too!

Yes a top bloke and a very good referee, I hope he has a cracking game, not that Galls and Cargin will make it difficult for him as they will play football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 21, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2013, 07:57:23 PM
Very sad to hear of the death of Alfie Hannaway. A dedicated St. Galls stalwart and one of life's gentlemen.
R.I.P

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 21, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2013, 07:57:23 PM
Very sad to hear of the death of Alfie Hannaway. A dedicated St. Galls stalwart and one of life's gentlemen.
R.I.P

+1

Have been stunned by this, got word this morning that he had bleeding in the brain and had been given the last rites! hour so later he was dead, Alfie was a great club man, who involved himself within the club in any way he could, I was glad to have him with me when I managed the the seniors and the team that is so successfull today (senior footballers) had it's beginning from the time he was the under 12 manager, all those lads have come through a team that was managed by Alfie Hannaway.

To Alfie, great memories great times and a great Gael
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 21, 2013, 11:01:26 PM
RIP Alfie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on September 22, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
I heard 2 St Galls men got straight reds at Kilmacuds on Sat, (if true) will that mean suspensions for the final vs Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on September 22, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
I heard 2 St Galls men got straight reds at Kilmacuds on Sat, (if true) will that mean suspensions for the final vs Cargin?

If they did get red cards then they won't be playing, Kilmacud is a proper tournament recognised by Croke, madness!!

Cargin were a great price at 4/1 early on, be a good bet now at 9/4 and out of Casement, they are a shoe in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 22, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Who got red cards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on September 22, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
I heard 2 St Galls men got straight reds at Kilmacuds on Sat, (if true) will that mean suspensions for the final vs Cargin?

If they did get red cards then they won't be playing, Kilmacud is a proper tournament recognised by Croke, madness!!

Cargin were a great price at 4/1 early on, be a good bet now at 9/4 and out of Casement, they are a shoe in

Nonsense. Yo're strong favourites and you know it -two men down or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on September 22, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
I heard 2 St Galls men got straight reds at Kilmacuds on Sat, (if true) will that mean suspensions for the final vs Cargin?

If they did get red cards then they won't be playing, Kilmacud is a proper tournament recognised by Croke, madness!!

Cargin were a great price at 4/1 early on, be a good bet now at 9/4 and out of Casement, they are a shoe in

Nonsense. Yo're strong favourites and you know it -two men down or not.

We'll have 15 men on the pitch, but possibly not the first 15 of the managers choice but sure dynasties have to fall sometime ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Ha. They do and will. Not fr a few years i suspect though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Ha. They do and will. Not fr a few years i suspect though!

I hope we go on to win a hell of a lot more if truth be told, Alfie Hannaway passed away yesterday, his son Alfie junior has played most games this year and this would have been a great moment for him to watch his young lad come out on to the pitch on Sat. Alfie senior has looked after a lot of those lads and I'm sure the boys will have him in their thoughts come throw in.

The funeral will be on Wed and after that we as a club will refocus for the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 11:12:17 PM
Sounded like quite a shock the whole thing mr. Didn't know the man but had heard of him. Rip.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 11:12:17 PM
Sounded like quite a shock the whole thing mr. Didn't know the man but had heard of him. Rip.

Aye very sudden. had been getting better from heart surgery and total unrealted blood clot in brain caused his untimely death at 61.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on September 23, 2013, 09:56:28 PM
Sorry to hear about Alfie, a quiet and unassuming man who worked away without any fuss, RIP...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 24, 2013, 08:12:26 PM
 Saturday 28th September 2013

Kennedy Centre Division 1FL

2 00 PM St John's GAC --- --- Lamh Dhearg Corrigan Park     Round 18   
2 00 PM St Brigids GAC --- --- O`Donovan Rossa GAC Musgrave Park     Round 18   
2 00 PM Clan na hEireann Carragan --- --- St Ergnat's Moneyglass Erin's Own Cargin     Round 18   
2 00 PM Naomh Gall --- --- Naomh Seamas Naomh Gall     Round 18   
2 00 PM Ciceam an Creagán --- --- Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls GAC Creggan Kickhams     Round 18   


going to be tight to get to ahoghill for 3.00
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 24, 2013, 08:12:26 PM
Saturday 28th September 2013

Kennedy Centre Division 1FL

2 00 PM St John's GAC --- --- Lamh Dhearg Corrigan Park     Round 18   
2 00 PM St Brigids GAC --- --- O`Donovan Rossa GAC Musgrave Park     Round 18   
2 00 PM Clan na hEireann Carragan --- --- St Ergnat's Moneyglass Erin's Own Cargin     Round 18   
2 00 PM Naomh Gall --- --- Naomh Seamas Naomh Gall     Round 18   
2 00 PM Ciceam an Creagán --- --- Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls GAC Creggan Kickhams     Round 18   


going to be tight to get to ahoghill for 3.00

we'll send up our reserves ;-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 10:32:01 PM
Brendan Toland doing the final this weekend, happy with that and Brendan is a good guy to boot. Roll on Sat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on September 25, 2013, 10:23:07 AM
Why is there a full fixture list clashing with the club final? Surely the players want to watch the final too??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:08:23 PM
Quote from: The Worker on September 25, 2013, 10:23:07 AM
Why is there a full fixture list clashing with the club final? Surely the players want to watch the final too??

The clubs want it apparently  ;D

We've a chance one of the suspended players will be available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Who are the suspended players? Kieran mcgourty and?

Kieran mcgourty big player for st galls so would be a loss but not sure it'll matter in this game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 26, 2013, 09:20:41 PM
How so MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Who are the suspended players? Kieran mcgourty and?

Kieran mcgourty big player for st galls so would be a loss but not sure it'll matter in this game.

Well he'll be challenging it I believe, pulling someone down in a game resulted in a red card, was pretty harsh and while the pull down did  looked worse due to the fact the lad ducked down and made it look a lot worse than it was.

But having a great squad means we will have to dig into the reserves and possibly change it up a bit. Cargin took us apart last time in the league, I know ones go on about it being league but we didn't have any answer to their game. Not sue of the team They trained last night and will again tomorrow, usually head to the final session just to feel the buzz but will be in Belfast on the lash!!

Nothing will be left behind and hopefully we get over the line, should be a low scoring game as Cargin play a sweeper, so up to us to play over/through it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on September 26, 2013, 10:49:25 PM
What a monumental balls up with these fixtures on Saturday.
Whats going on with JE and the boys?  Whats the justification.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2013, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Who are the suspended players? Kieran mcgourty and?

Kieran mcgourty big player for st galls so would be a loss but not sure it'll matter in this game.

Sean Burke I heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2013, 09:46:53 AM
Sean Burke out, and now Keiran McGourty defo out aswell!

Theyve been without Burke all year so wont make much odds (although would have made a big difference)

We'll see how they cope come Saturday - if Pollock, Stewart and Niblock are all firing i fancy Galls, if any on an off day, it could be tough enough!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
Burke usually nullifies mick mccann so could make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on September 27, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
The county fixes games for the same day. Now have seen the official line of the clubs getting chance to move them if they want. But why in the name of good fcuk are they fixing them for then in the first place? Are they that effin stupid?
Tenner in on Sat, say you got an extra 200 people in, thats 2 grand for the county who we are told is skint. A child could plan things better, clowns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 04:57:36 PM
Cargin shit in the nest again!! We were awful and still couldnt beat us!! 7 in a row. that's some feat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on September 28, 2013, 05:10:09 PM
Quote7 in a row. that's some feat

you need to get into double digits before it is truly notable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 28, 2013, 05:10:09 PM
Quote7 in a row. that's some feat

you need to get into double digits before it is truly notable.

12 out of past 13 years. one blemish. we ain't complaining
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 28, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 28, 2013, 05:10:09 PM
Quote7 in a row. that's some feat

you need to get into double digits before it is truly notable.

12 out of past 13 years. one blemish. we ain't complaining

That's sum record! Who has the most medals in the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2013, 07:04:57 PM

Who's galls' keeper now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 07:19:13 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 28, 2013, 07:04:57 PM

Who's galls' keeper now?

Chris Kerr, great save today from the penalty, which if they had have converted they probably could have won
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 28, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 28, 2013, 05:10:09 PM
Quote7 in a row. that's some feat

you need to get into double digits before it is truly notable.

12 out of past 13 years. one blemish. we ain't complaining

Sean Burns has the most, 15 maybe and hasn't played the last couple

That's sum record! Who has the most medals in the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2013, 09:41:36 PM
McGourty straight red for slabberihg to the ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 28, 2013, 09:41:36 PM
McGourty straight red for slabberihg to the ref?

Yes, think slabbering to linesman and referee
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 28, 2013, 10:21:50 PM
He pushed the linesman, the complete and utter clown, sideline the best place for him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on September 29, 2013, 09:22:42 AM
He was only on for about a minute before he got the line. Liability
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 11:44:13 AM
Wasn't a game for the purists that's for sure, Cargin playing 2 man ff line, O'Boyle when he got the ball looked the sharpest and scored a couple of great points and was pulled down for the penalty, Magill didn't get much out of Andy, took a great score near the end though.

Sean tracked Tomas for the whole first half so wasn't on the ball at all till the second half when he influenced the game (as he normally does) Mick McCann lorded midfield, don't know why Anto picked him up as I'd have thought Aidso would have been better, we didn't win many kick outs from both keepers, Burkey was a big loss in that respect and Ciaran also for sweeping up all the breaking ball.

Scullion was anonymous for Cargin I thought, and we'd lads that had a lot more to give I thought. Though in fairness there wasn't a lot of room once the ball went up into the forward line, Cargin had big numbers and if the ball wasn't off loaded quickly we lost it. We might get to an Ulster final again this year but we'd need to play a lot better,  based on that showing we'd get knocked out handy enough. Saying that we usually play a lot better once out of the Antrim Championship.

Cargin won't be going away that's for sure, they will be back next year and are still the only team to really stop us.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Buswhacker on September 30, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
Pity these teams or some of the players from both clubs wouldn't settle their differences with county management,and give the county a chance of progressing. Time to stop acting like prima donnas before it's to late,nobody is getting any younger.
Hurlers need to get their act together as well. But it's not going to happen......not in Antrim.Not much wonder we are consider a bit of a joke in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2013, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 30, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
Pity these teams or some of the players from both clubs wouldn't settle their differences with county management,and give the county a chance of progressing. Time to stop acting like prima donnas before it's to late,nobody is getting any younger.
Hurlers need to get their act together as well. But it's not going to happen......not in Antrim.Not much wonder we are consider a bit of a joke in both codes.

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 30, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
Is Jackson Mc Greevy the same lad that captained Antrim U21 hurlers??

What grade do St Galls play in at underage football or are they similar to a modern day Ballinderry by bringing through 1-2 very good players each year??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2013, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 30, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
Is Jackson Mc Greevy the same lad that captained Antrim U21 hurlers??

What grade do St Galls play in at underage football or are they similar to a modern day Ballinderry by bringing through 1-2 very good players each year??

Yes to first point, and we haven't got past first round minor in a while

Walter like yourselves we had a very productive youth set up, the lads that are the main seniors, Kelly, McLean, Brady Stewart, and the rest all were on the same teams right through juvenile, winning hurling and football, they all moved on to the senior team at the right time and won their first Senior together, they haven't looked back.

Culbert brought them all together, a gamble as they were all young but managed to get to an Ulster final and were beat by The Loup. If yous bring those lads through together they could be as strong as Ballinderry.

We won 4/5 minor and under 21's in the same period, we've lost some decent footballers at those levels as you can only play 15 but we have brought on 1 or 2 a year but it's still mainly the same bunch from 13 years ago.

We haven't won a minor championship for a good while so it's bound to stop soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dell on September 30, 2013, 11:50:04 PM
Sitting close to St Galls subs at game and their lack of respect for managment team was hard to believe. One 'big' player in particular was playing to the crowd giving his opinion to all who were close enough to hear. Honestly shocked by it from a team like St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2013, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Dell on September 30, 2013, 11:50:04 PM
Sitting close to St Galls subs at game and their lack of respect for managment team was hard to believe. One 'big' player in particular was playing to the crowd giving his opinion to all who were close enough to hear. Honestly shocked by it from a team like St Galls.

Was this one 'big' player a sub or someone who was suspended ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 01, 2013, 05:24:25 PM
Dawson resigned  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 01, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
FD texted Co Board informing them he was stepping down.  Canavan anyone???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dell on October 01, 2013, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2013, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Dell on September 30, 2013, 11:50:04 PM
Sitting close to St Galls subs at game and their lack of respect for managment team was hard to believe. One 'big' player in particular was playing to the crowd giving his opinion to all who were close enough to hear. Honestly shocked by it from a team like St Galls.

Was this one 'big' player a sub or someone who was suspended ?
Started as one and finished as the other! Was in no frame of mind to go on names he called both men were childish and pathetic. But then they put him on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 01, 2013, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 01, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
FD texted Co Board informing them he was stepping down.  Canavan anyone???

Why Canavan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on October 01, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
Canavan for Antrim.Dawson for fermanagh. Fair swap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on October 01, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Was Canavan not on CEO money in Fermanagh? No chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on October 01, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
Mc geeney?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 01, 2013, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: Dell on October 01, 2013, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2013, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Dell on September 30, 2013, 11:50:04 PM
Sitting close to St Galls subs at game and their lack of respect for managment team was hard to believe. One 'big' player in particular was playing to the crowd giving his opinion to all who were close enough to hear. Honestly shocked by it from a team like St Galls.

Was this one 'big' player a sub or someone who was suspended ?
Started as one and finished as the other! Was in no frame of mind to go on names he called both men were childish and pathetic. But then they put him on!

Kevin McGourty obviously, he is becoming an embarrassment to St Galls.

No doubt we will be hearing from him in the Irish news in the next few weeks how he is "available" for a new Antrim manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 02, 2013, 12:46:42 AM
We need to bring in a manager who won't pander to ego's as per the above post-ruins a team.

Baker was great for that. Not many will know but the ex Monaghan ladies manager Gregory McGonigle would be a good choice. People making the decisions don't know football so wouldn't think outside the box.

Outside manager is preferential as wouldn't isolate whole clubs if falls out with one player and then bias is perceived.

Baker I would welcome back too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 02, 2013, 09:08:18 AM
Quote from: glens abu on October 01, 2013, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 01, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
FD texted Co Board informing them he was stepping down.  Canavan anyone???
Why Canavan?

1.  He's available!
2.  From what I hear in Fermanagh, his man management was good
3.  He had the respect and buy in of he players
4.  He had the better players in the county committed to the county team
5.  He dealt with an ego situation well
6.  Antrim is not going to attract a "top quality" manager
7.  He's from outside the county
8.  He might look outside 3 clubs to provide the bulk of the county panel
9.  He couldn't do any worse.
10. He might be interested!

Against

1.  Tactically not strong but then neither was Baker and
1 - 10 above.

Apart from Gearoid Adams, who do we think might be interested in the Antrim job??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 02, 2013, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: AQMP on October 02, 2013, 09:08:18 AM
Quote from: glens abu on October 01, 2013, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 01, 2013, 05:52:01 PM
FD texted Co Board informing them he was stepping down.  Canavan anyone???
Why Canavan?

1.  He's available!
2.  From what I hear in Fermanagh, his man management was good
3.  He had the respect and buy in of he players
4.  He had the better players in the county committed to the county team
5.  He dealt with an ego situation well
6.  Antrim is not going to attract a "top quality" manager
7.  He's from outside the county
8.  He might look outside 3 clubs to provide the bulk of the county panel
9.  He couldn't do any worse.
10. He might be interested!

Against

1.  Tactically not strong but then neither was Baker and
1 - 10 above.

Apart from Gearoid Adams, who do we think might be interested in the Antrim job??

Just asked the question as interested to know reasons, was it on his ability as a player or was there another reason.Will be interesting to see who applies when or if it is advertised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 02, 2013, 09:26:21 AM
glens abu, I suppose my thinking is partly coloured by the fact that (IMHO) there's going to be a small pool of people genuinely interested in this job (I don't know if Canavan would touch it with a barge pole!)  Rory Gallagher has connections with the county and might view Antrim as an attractive start in county management (but is he still living in Killybegs??).  Adams Jnr??  Anyone else??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 02, 2013, 09:27:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2013, 09:23:20 AM
He might pick himself corner forward.

Could still be effective in Div 4!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 02, 2013, 09:34:55 AM
Quote from: AQMP on October 02, 2013, 09:26:21 AM
glens abu, I suppose my thinking is partly coloured by the fact that (IMHO) there's going to be a small pool of people genuinely interested in this job (I don't know if Canavan would touch it with a barge pole!)  Rory Gallagher has connections with the county and might view Antrim as an attractive start in county management (but is he still living in Killybegs??).  Adams Jnr??  Anyone else??

Heard Lennie Harbinson,Kevin Madden and Justin McNulty mentioned so will be interesting who puts their hat in the ring.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on October 01, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Was Canavan not on CEO money in Fermanagh? No chance

He was exactly so there absolutely no chance of him coming north, unless his expenses were to significantly nose dive  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on October 02, 2013, 10:45:32 AM
Anybody who knows anything about Canavan and Fermanagh will be aware that the cost was far too great for their County Board to bear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on October 02, 2013, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on October 01, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Was Canavan not on CEO money in Fermanagh? No chance

He was exactly so there absolutely no chance of him coming north, unless his expenses were to significantly nose dive  ;)

Still dont understand why anyone would want Canavan, zero record of championship success at club or county, never won one Ulster championship game with Fermanagh, and it wasn't like he was playing Donegal or Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
Quote from: Man Marker on October 02, 2013, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on October 01, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Was Canavan not on CEO money in Fermanagh? No chance

He was exactly so there absolutely no chance of him coming north, unless his expenses were to significantly nose dive  ;)

Still dont understand why anyone would want Canavan, zero record of championship success at club or county, never won one Ulster championship game with Fermanagh, and it wasn't like he was playing Donegal or Tyrone

Didnt say I wanted him just that we couldnt afford him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 02, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
John Rafferty would be a good man for the job, If lenny goes he could take Rory gallagher with him as 2 of them are very close. Why not give it to someone youngish like madden and adams might be a good combination
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2013, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 02, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
John Rafferty would be a good man for the job, If lenny goes he could take Rory gallagher with him as 2 of them are very close. Why not give it to someone youngish like madden and adams might be a good combination

Would agree with you on giving someone young and ambitious a go at it, although both of your examples are likely to attract controversy from some corners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 02, 2013, 11:44:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2013, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 02, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
John Rafferty would be a good man for the job, If lenny goes he could take Rory gallagher with him as 2 of them are very close. Why not give it to someone youngish like madden and adams might be a good combination

Would agree with you on giving someone young and ambitious a go at it, although both of your examples are likely to attract controversy from some corners.

Yeah both good servants for the County and now a fair bit of experience behind them in coaching.Think we need to try something new so might be worth a shout if they show an interest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 02, 2013, 12:03:02 PM
Deary Deary me, some of the names being thrown about are ridiculous!

I agree, take a punt on youth and inexperience then Antrim County Board can nail their colours to the mast!

If it doesnt work they will have done no worse than their predecessors!

Avoid ridiculous contoversy at all costs!  It would be about everything else other than the football - god knows Antrim has had enough of that!

Take a punt!!! OR ROB A BANK!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
St Johns senior football isn't exactly a glowing endorsement for Gearoid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 02, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
St Johns senior football isn't exactly a glowing endorsement for Gearoid.
when gearoid arrived at johnnies as manager we were a team who were fighting relegation .we have finished top 4 this last 3-4 years in league.in that time galls have put us out of c,ship 4 out of 6 years{2 semis and a final}we are talking about maybe the best club side ever out of antrim.so i think its harsh to criticise gearoid for failing to topple a galls team laden with former or current county players.adams has done a terrific job at st.johns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 02, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2013, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 02, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
St Johns senior football isn't exactly a glowing endorsement for Gearoid.
when gearoid arrived at johnnies as manager we were a team who were fighting relegation .we have finished top 4 this last 3-4 years in league.in that time galls have put us out of c,ship 4 out of 6 years{2 semis and a final}we are talking about maybe the best club side ever out of antrim.so i think its harsh to criticise gearoid for failing to topple a galls team laden with former or current county players.adams has done a terrific job at st.johns.
This comes across as "only for St. Galls....."

What decent scalps have the Johnnies taken in championship in the last number of years?
when u say decent scalps,if youre talking about cargin or lamh dearg or even creggan-simple answer none.because we havent drawn them.you cant beat whats not in front of u.we only got a decent draw 1 year which was last year where we easily beat rossa,pauls and ahoghill to reach the final where we got beat by 4 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 02, 2013, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
And before Gearoid were yis beating the likes of Rossa, Ahoghill and St. Pauls?
we hadnt won a cship game in 4 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2013, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 02, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
St Johns senior football isn't exactly a glowing endorsement for Gearoid.
when gearoid arrived at johnnies as manager we were a team who were fighting relegation .we have finished top 4 this last 3-4 years in league.in that time galls have put us out of c,ship 4 out of 6 years{2 semis and a final}we are talking about maybe the best club side ever out of antrim.so i think its harsh to criticise gearoid for failing to topple a galls team laden with former or current county players.adams has done a terrific job at st.johns.

Not having a dig, would like to see him cut his teeth further elsewhere first.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 02, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
i do think adams and madden would do a great job together.no way antrim offers enough money to attract mcgeeney or canavan.these 2 are looking at big jobs from here on in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 02, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 02, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
i do think adams and madden would do a great job together.no way antrim offers enough money to attract mcgeeney or canavan.these 2 are looking at big jobs from here on in.

Still can't see what Canavan has done as a manager to deserve a big job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 03, 2013, 11:36:53 AM
Here here glens!

Why is Canavan being touted? What has he achieved? (Great player, but so was Pele)

On the St.Johns progress thing...need a reality check really!  Agree with Jeepers in terms of cutting their teeth elsewhere - however if county wanna give them a chance, great, but call it as it is! Taking a punt!

Like the thought of John Rafferty, but i would presume its all coin!!! So dont know bout that!

Its a real tough one for the county board, what about JC?

Whitey completely out of running?

Why has Harbinson not been snapped up by someone else? (see him in Irish News today as being touted)Is he involved with galls still?

Johnny McBride?

McFlynn?

Brennan?

Bring back Baker???????He did alright!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
Sadly I doubt we'd be considered a big job though :(

There are a lot of nice to have names we could spout but like as been said before it's likely going to be all about money.

I would guess it'll be a local rather than a Derry guy. Does Johnny McBride manager? McFlynn over Creggan just seems to have made them play ultra defensively. Hard to know about Adams. St Johns have had a lot of underage talent and haven't set the world alight yet but maybe 3 or 4 years time that could happen.

If we can get our best 15 it would be a start. I think we can forget the McGourtys but them aside if we can get our best 15 we could and should win division 4 and maybe get a run in qualifiers and if a favourable draw a win or two in ulster. Really need Gallagher, Scullion McCann etc to be playing and hopefully Sweeney will still play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 02:38:45 PM
After watching the county final at the weekend I was coming away from the game wondering if Justin Crozier was playing, realised later he'd been marking Pollock, both must have cancelled each other out, but the thing is I rember a list of Antrim players by the Independent, Antrims best 15, Crozier was listed on it as was Mick McCann, but no Sean Kelly, very strange I thought at the time.

Crozier seems to have went of the radar a bit, What age is he? Same age as CJ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
He was in the same minor team so yeah at a guess the same age. What age is that - about 25 now?

Crozier looked great early on but seems to have dipped a bit. Seemed to suffer a bit from his versatility.

Kelly in my view would be the best club footballer we've seen in antrim for years. He hasn't quite had the same influence at county level - real pity that during his prime him and Baker didn't seem to click.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
He was in the same minor team so yeah at a guess the same age. What age is that - about 25 now?

Crozier looked great early on but seems to have dipped a bit. Seemed to suffer a bit from his versatility.

Kelly in my view would be the best club footballer we've seen in antrim for years. He hasn't quite had the same influence at county level - real pity that during his prime him and Baker didn't seem to click.

He played 9 odd years for Antrim and was one of the best corner backs in Ulster at the time. I think things have been clouded over the years about him not being a Antrim great TBH.

We wouldn't have won had he not been on the ball last week in the second half I thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 03:36:28 PM
He was really plugging a gap at corner back though and did a decent job but his reading of the game and marking men but not outstanding IMO as he was out of position. Great half back, good corner back I thought...

He's a joy to watch at club level. I think st galls are a lot like cross in the regard that an outstanding half back (Kernan / Kelly) is really the platform for a lot of their successes. Also marking those half backs would go a long way to stopping either in my view but easier said than done!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 03:36:28 PM
He was really plugging a gap at corner back though and did a decent job but his reading of the game and marking men but not outstanding IMO as he was out of position. Great half back, good corner back I thought...

He's a joy to watch at club level. I think st galls are a lot like cross in the regard that an outstanding half back (Kernan / Kelly) is really the platform for a lot of their successes. Also marking those half backs would go a long way to stopping either in my view but easier said than done!

Kernan is a class act , as you say makes them tick, he gets the ball and can shift, with vison also to pick out a pass, obviously Cross have a lot of lads that are in a different bracket (Clarke) to most clubs in Ulster but Kernan stands out.

He beat us on his own in the final a few years ago, Osin will claim the scores but Aaron set them up, won the ball in corner back took ball up  the pitch and the ball ended up in the back of the net ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 03, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
He was in the same minor team so yeah at a guess the same age. What age is that - about 25 now?

Crozier looked great early on but seems to have dipped a bit. Seemed to suffer a bit from his versatility.

Kelly in my view would be the best club footballer we've seen in antrim for years. He hasn't quite had the same influence at county level - real pity that during his prime him and Baker didn't seem to click.

He played 9 odd years for Antrim and was one of the best corner backs in Ulster at the time. I think things have been clouded over the years about him not being a Antrim great TBH.

We wouldn't have won had he not been on the ball last week in the second half I thought

Great player and you are right give plenty for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 03, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 03:36:28 PM
He was really plugging a gap at corner back though and did a decent job but his reading of the game and marking men but not outstanding IMO as he was out of position. Great half back, good corner back I thought...

He's a joy to watch at club level. I think st galls are a lot like cross in the regard that an outstanding half back (Kernan / Kelly) is really the platform for a lot of their successes. Also marking those half backs would go a long way to stopping either in my view but easier said than done!

Kernan is a class act , as you say makes them tick, he gets the ball and can shift, with vison also to pick out a pass, obviously Cross have a lot of lads that are in a different bracket (Clarke) to most clubs in Ulster but Kernan stands out.

He beat us on his own in the final a few years ago, Osin will claim the scores but Aaron set them up, won the ball in corner back took ball up  the pitch and the ball ended up in the back of the net ffs
the difference between kelly and kernan is about 1and a half stone of muscle thats why kernan is so effective in county football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on October 03, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 03, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 03:36:28 PM
He was really plugging a gap at corner back though and did a decent job but his reading of the game and marking men but not outstanding IMO as he was out of position. Great half back, good corner back I thought...

He's a joy to watch at club level. I think st galls are a lot like cross in the regard that an outstanding half back (Kernan / Kelly) is really the platform for a lot of their successes. Also marking those half backs would go a long way to stopping either in my view but easier said than done!

Kernan is a class act , as you say makes them tick, he gets the ball and can shift, with vison also to pick out a pass, obviously Cross have a lot of lads that are in a different bracket (Clarke) to most clubs in Ulster but Kernan stands out.

He beat us on his own in the final a few years ago, Osin will claim the scores but Aaron set them up, won the ball in corner back took ball up  the pitch and the ball ended up in the back of the net ffs
the difference between kelly and kernan is about 1and a half stone of muscle thats why kernan is so effective in county football.

Complete myth. Kernan played with much better players his whole career.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 04, 2013, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 03, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 03:36:28 PM
He was really plugging a gap at corner back though and did a decent job but his reading of the game and marking men but not outstanding IMO as he was out of position. Great half back, good corner back I thought...

He's a joy to watch at club level. I think st galls are a lot like cross in the regard that an outstanding half back (Kernan / Kelly) is really the platform for a lot of their successes. Also marking those half backs would go a long way to stopping either in my view but easier said than done!

Kernan is a class act , as you say makes them tick, he gets the ball and can shift, with vison also to pick out a pass, obviously Cross have a lot of lads that are in a different bracket (Clarke) to most clubs in Ulster but Kernan stands out.

He beat us on his own in the final a few years ago, Osin will claim the scores but Aaron set them up, won the ball in corner back took ball up  the pitch and the ball ended up in the back of the net ffs
the difference between kelly and kernan is about 1and a half stone of muscle thats why kernan is so effective in county football.

Dribble! Typical nay say jealous response from... - agree with stibhan - better players!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on October 04, 2013, 09:40:09 AM

Sean Kelly a better player by some distance. Rolls Royce wing back who can do his defensive work as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 04, 2013, 09:42:54 AM
In other news I see James Loughrey has been nominated for an All Star.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 05, 2013, 04:22:19 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 04, 2013, 09:40:09 AM

Sean Kelly a better player by some distance. Rolls Royce wing back who can do his defensive work as well
i,ve heard it all now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: time ticking away on October 07, 2013, 01:36:26 AM
Would Carl Mc Cabe have a chance of getting the Antrim job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on October 07, 2013, 01:49:22 AM
Antrim need to think outside the box.

Jim Mccorry is supposedly leaving killkoo this year. He completely transformed that club. Raymond Munroe did great things in my opinion with Tyrone minors and with his club Carrickmore. Paul Mc ivor is potentially another option. Banty would also be a really good option. He is a wealthy man as it is and would bring unbelievable passion to the county as would another Monaghan man Bernie Murray who played senior for Monaghan and has coached queens , Monaghan minors and dromintee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 07, 2013, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: AQMP on October 04, 2013, 09:42:54 AM
In other news I see James Loughrey has been nominated for an All Star.

Unbelievable achievement for a man who only went down to Cork in Feb/March this year--only Cork player to get a nomination.
I actually don't think he played as well this year as he has done in past 4 for Antrim. He wasn't dictating games the way he did for us yet and all gets a nomination as your profile is higher when playing Div 1 football. Such a loss to the County.

Re thinking outside the box for a manager its the way to go.

I'd said before about Greg McGonigle who managed Monaghan ladies and manages the Ulster team. If you could get him and Banty in that would be class. Seriously good training sessions and knowledge of football and Antrim Football. Ask any Monaghan/Ulster ones. Discipline would be serious. No crap would be taken.

Outside the box as suggested is the way to go--look at how Baker worked--unreal, our best ever in terms of results, a real leader.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 07, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 04, 2013, 09:42:54 AM
In other news I see James Loughrey has been nominated for an All Star.

Indeed.  Serious athlete and serious footballer.  Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 08, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
rumours going about that dawson quit antrim to take a higher paying job at bryansford.good luck with that one bryansford and thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 08, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 08, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
rumours going about that dawson quit antrim to take a higher paying job at bryansford.good luck with that one bryansford and thanks a lot.

Heard that myself,good luck to them both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: county derry post on October 10, 2013, 12:10:27 PM
Ten of Ulster's foremost GAA personalities will be on hand this Saturday as the 'Superstars Challenge' is officially launched at Bellaghy GAA (11am).



Based on the International Superstars idea, the event is an all-around sports competition that pits elite athletes from different sports against one another in a series of athletic events resembling a decathlon.

With the Challenge due to take place on 28th December, all proceeds raised will go to Marie Curie Cancer Care – an organisation playing a vital role in supporting cancer sufferers and their families.

The organisers believe the event – a first for the GAA – will capture the imagination of the general public building up to the unique December show-down.

Former Derry footballer and member of the organising committee, Ronan Rocks, explained what the next few months will involve:

"We will have our launch this weekend but that's only the start.

"The key fundraising campaign centres around ten star GAA players from throughout Ulster participating in a series of events throughout the day. We feel this event will appeal to the wider community. To have ten high profile sporting stars competing against each other in a unique event will obtain the much needed funds as well as generate a vast awareness of the event and associated sponsors throughout."

Already ahead of the game, organisers have set up Twitter (@SuperSCh) and Facebook pages to keep people informed and up to date with latest developments.

Ten local companies have already agreed sponsorship of the participants and it is hoped that the wider public will contribute further to what will be a unique event this December.

The 2013 event will also seek to raise awareness for another worthy cause, as Rocks explains:

"We have also decided that through this campaign we want to continue to raise awareness for the "Opt for Life" campaign and we are delighted to have Joe Brolly, who is a strong campaigner for this worthy cause, within our fundraising committee." explained Rocks.

Further event information and background

Athletes can compete in up to eight of the ten events, with no-one generally allowed to take part in their own sport, although some handicapping rules do apply.

Competitors participate in a range of different sporting events, including a 100m sprint, 800 metres (0.50 mi) run, obstacle course or Steeplechase, weightlifting, football, rowing, tennis, basketball, bicycle racing, shooting and swimming. The sports used have varied over time and between the various international competitions.

Points are awarded for the position in which the competitor places in each event. The competitor with the most points at the end of all the events is declared the champion.

How would you like to see Ulster GAA's Finest compete in such an event???

Could Ryan Bell beat Marty McGrath in a full length of the field sprint???

Could Aaron Kernan do more press ups than Michael McCann???

Could Owen Mulligan bench press more than Kieran Hughes???

Just some of the examples that only a Superstars challenge could bring!

Competitors:

(1) Ryan Bell (Derry) Nicholl Oils
(2) Owen Mulligan (Tyrone) O'Neills
(3) Michael McCann (Antrim) Creagh Concrete
(4) Eamon McGee (Donegal) H & A Mechanical
(5) Darren Hughes (Monaghan) Bannvale Credit Union
(6) Kevin McKernan (Down) Mac Trailers
(7) Marty McGrath (Fermanagh) DPD
(8) Marty Dunne (Cavan) Kingspan
(9) Aaron Kernan (Armagh) SDC
(10) Fergal Doherty (Bellaghy) Specialist Joinery Fittings
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 10, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
still no news on the manager front for antrim?county board needs to get this sorted out asap.after such a terrible year,the new management are gonna need time to undo the mess dawson made of it last year.the sooner the better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 10, 2013, 06:49:51 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 10, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
still no news on the manager front for antrim?county board needs to get this sorted out asap.after such a terrible year,the new management are gonna need time to undo the mess dawson made of it last year.the sooner the better.

Think we should hear something next week jift,who would you like to get the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
It will be sorted in good time. CB should take whatever time is necessary to get the right solution in place, not rush in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 11, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
It will be sorted in good time. CB should take whatever time is necessary to get the right solution in place, not rush in.

Def not rush in Brendan but they need to get the finger out and at least give us an idea of what the criteria is for the post.Has Brendan Crossen (Irish News)a direct line to cb or is he pushing his own agenda.Do people have to wait and be approached by cb,do they need to apply or  do they have to be  be nominated by clubs.Is the cc being proactive or what?I for one would love to see people with a real Antrim pedigree getting the post and think Adams and Madden would fit the bill,both gave their all for the county and now have a fair few years coaching and managing between them.Just hope the cb realise the mistake they make on the last appointment and get it right this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 11, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
According to the local papers down here Frank Dawson is one of the contenders for the Fermanagh job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 11, 2013, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: glens abu on October 11, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
It will be sorted in good time. CB should take whatever time is necessary to get the right solution in place, not rush in.

Def not rush in Brendan but they need to get the finger out and at least give us an idea of what the criteria is for the post.Has Brendan Crossen (Irish News)a direct line to cb or is he pushing his own agenda.Do people have to wait and be approached by cb,do they need to apply or  do they have to be  be nominated by clubs.Is the cc being proactive or what?I for one would love to see people with a real Antrim pedigree getting the post and think Adams and Madden would fit the bill,both gave their all for the county and now have a fair few years coaching and managing between them.Just hope the cb realise the mistake they make on the last appointment and get it right this time.
i would like adams and madden to get the job.i know these boys very well and think they would complement each other ;with both having served their respective apprenticeships in county management.but at this stage we dont know if either have even given a thought to working with each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 11, 2013, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 11, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
According to the local papers down here Frank Dawson is one of the contenders for the Fermanagh job.
from peter canavan to frank dawson,now that would be a spectecular fall from grace.but if it pays well i,m sure the mercenary dawson will apply.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 11, 2013, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 11, 2013, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: glens abu on October 11, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
It will be sorted in good time. CB should take whatever time is necessary to get the right solution in place, not rush in.

Def not rush in Brendan but they need to get the finger out and at least give us an idea of what the criteria is for the post.Has Brendan Crossen (Irish News)a direct line to cb or is he pushing his own agenda.Do people have to wait and be approached by cb,do they need to apply or  do they have to be  be nominated by clubs.Is the cc being proactive or what?I for one would love to see people with a real Antrim pedigree getting the post and think Adams and Madden would fit the bill,both gave their all for the county and now have a fair few years coaching and managing between them.Just hope the cb realise the mistake they make on the last appointment and get it right this time.
i would like adams and madden to get the job.i know these boys very well and think they would complement each other ;with both having served their respective apprenticeships in county management.but at this stage we dont know if either have even given a thought to working with each other.


Yes would be interesting to know if they would,maybe they should let the Irish News know if they are interested.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 11, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
It will be sorted in good time. CB should take whatever time is necessary to get the right solution in place, not rush in.

Brendan as a avid Antrim Fan I would implore you to ask the county board to think outside the box and consider outsiders and untried (at Senior County Mens Level) such as Greg McGonigle as I mentioned before. This man had Banty working under him for Monaghan ladies. They would be some double team to get. Don't forget banty wouldn't know the footballers in Antrim bar watching a few trials, McGonigle would know many. I wouldn't care who managed but if both involved then great. They work together in business and could make time (although I fear Fermanagh may slip in as they are closer, but we have better potential).

We picked Baker from relative obscurity and look at the dividends we reaped. Someone like that would command and get respect. A lot of our boys are disrespectful, to our county and managers, especially insiders they feel they are better than. Someone like Malachy or Aidan O'Rourke or the McNultys etc would have the players respect. People who have recently managed teams in recent AI Finals would get respect.

At least approach ALL of the above named. I don't expect you the County Board to really know football. In my view none of you were any good at sport and so cant truly understand football and management.

Please listen to advice. This is not through arrogance, or 'I know best' sort of thing. I just want what's best for our County as I follow them through the forthcoming years. When im away in Ennis next March I want us to have our best team out under a manager with a gameplan, not just some ex player lazily shoe-horned in who doesn't have the charisma to command the respect of half our players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 11, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 11, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
It will be sorted in good time. CB should take whatever time is necessary to get the right solution in place, not rush in.

Brendan as a avid Antrim Fan I would implore you to ask the county board to think outside the box and consider outsiders and untried (at Senior County Mens Level) such as Greg McGonigle as I mentioned before. This man had Banty working under him for Monaghan ladies. They would be some double team to get. Don't forget banty wouldn't know the footballers in Antrim bar watching a few trials, McGonigle would know many. I wouldn't care who managed but if both involved then great. They work together in business and could make time (although I fear Fermanagh may slip in as they are closer, but we have better potential).

We picked Baker from relative obscurity and look at the dividends we reaped. Someone like that would command and get respect. A lot of our boys are disrespectful, to our county and managers, especially insiders they feel they are better than. Someone like Malachy or Aidan O'Rourke or the McNultys etc would have the players respect. People who have recently managed teams in recent AI Finals would get respect.

At least approach ALL of the above named. I don't expect you the County Board to really know football. In my view none of you were any good at sport and so cant truly understand football and management.

Please listen to advice. This is not through arrogance, or 'I know best' sort of thing. I just want what's best for our County as I follow them through the forthcoming years. When im away in Ennis next March I want us to have our best team out under a manager with a gameplan, not just some ex player lazily shoe-horned in who doesn't have the charisma to command the respect of half our players.

;D you trying to say our seniors play like a lot of women :-[you might be right and its a women coach we need.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 11, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
"Has Brendan Crossen (Irish News)a direct line to cb or is he pushing his own agenda?"

He certainly doesn't and he writes all of his Antrim speculation stories without ever contacting the CB. Ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ApresMatch on October 12, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Did Dawson think Bryansford is a bigger job than Antrim? Can't get my head round that thinking, especially him being an Antrim man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 12, 2013, 04:16:11 PM
It's simple . He knew he wouldn't get all players on board and face a similar season to last so when a money offer came in he jumped. Simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 12, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Quote from: ApresMatch on October 12, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Did Dawson think Bryansford is a bigger job than Antrim? Can't get my head round that thinking, especially him being an Antrim man.
its all about the money,money,money.what really irks me is he didnt have the decency to fall on his sword when he completely fucked up.happy to keep the cheque,good riddance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on October 13, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
Agree that we need to set up a sub county committee delegated with the responsibility of finding a new manager. We don't want a repeat of the nomination fiasco which somehow resulted in one of the most unsuccessful and bizarre managers (still trying to get my head around a few of his media comments) of recent times being reappointed for another year. The committee should at the very least approach the McEntees, McGonigle, Banty, Rory Gallagher and John Rafferty. That is a very impressive list of candidates and I would be very confident of getting promoted and beating Fermanagh should we attain the services of any of those men. In particular we should do anything and everything in our power to get Tony McEntee or Rory Gallagher. I accept it is unlikely that either will be exactly jumping at the opportunity to manage our county, but we should at the very least contact them and make them as attractive an offer as possible. Pitch it like this; we have a very talented group of players who could mix it with the best in Ulster if all united and properly prepared. We have underachieved massively and the person who rectifies this will receive massive plaudits and exposure on the intercounty circuit if the job is done properly, which any good manager should be well capable of. We're looking for a modern, innovative manager who will have a professional set up and get the best players out and get the best of the players. Free up money from Dunsilly and the hurlers to put together a good package to attract these people, if it is indeed the case that the vast majority of the cash generated is being pumped into these two ventures.
It's a sad time when we have to attract managers and even players seem to need convincing to play, but we have to accept where we are and build the thing back up again. In reality I think we should accept that, rightly or wrongly, there may be a poor perception of the Antrim County Board out there after the Dawson fiasco and the general dire year we have just had, and thus we need to go out and court good managers rather than waiting for applications which may prove to be few and far between.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2013, 10:10:46 AM
Quote from: James Gatz on October 13, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
Agree that we need to set up a sub county committee delegated with the responsibility of finding a new manager. We don't want a repeat of the nomination fiasco which somehow resulted in one of the most unsuccessful and bizarre managers (still trying to get my head around a few of his media comments) of recent times being reappointed for another year. The committee should at the very least approach the McEntees, McGonigle, Banty, Rory Gallagher and John Rafferty. That is a very impressive list of candidates and I would be very confident of getting promoted and beating Fermanagh should we attain the services of any of those men. In particular we should do anything and everything in our power to get Tony McEntee or Rory Gallagher. I accept it is unlikely that either will be exactly jumping at the opportunity to manage our county, but we should at the very least contact them and make them as attractive an offer as possible. Pitch it like this; we have a very talented group of players who could mix it with the best in Ulster if all united and properly prepared. We have underachieved massively and the person who rectifies this will receive massive plaudits and exposure on the intercounty circuit if the job is done properly, which any good manager should be well capable of. We're looking for a modern, innovative manager who will have a professional set up and get the best players out and get the best of the players. Free up money from Dunsilly and the hurlers to put together a good package to attract these people, if it is indeed the case that the vast majority of the cash generated is being pumped into these two ventures.
It's a sad time when we have to attract managers and even players seem to need convincing to play, but we have to accept where we are and build the thing back up again. In reality I think we should accept that, rightly or wrongly, there may be a poor perception of the Antrim County Board out there after the Dawson fiasco and the general dire year we have just had, and thus we need to go out and court good managers rather than waiting for applications which may prove to be few and far between.

What money? And taking the shillings from the hurlers will will leave them at a disadvantage also. Come back with a better idea for raising money to intice a modern manager 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on October 13, 2013, 01:34:31 PM
The hurlers have a good manager who has a vision for the county and knows the IC scene better than anyone within. He also oversaw our most significant result at intercounty level with little support in terms of playing staff. I would see no reason to take any money away from his set-up to pump into the footballers unless there is extreme disparity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: James Gatz on October 14, 2013, 12:32:08 AM
From what I have heard there is extreme disparity in the funding of our senior hurling and football teams, and rectifying this would at least go a small way to making more money available to our next manager.
And MR2, how about this idea? Everyone supports Club Aontroma by putting their hands in the their pockets. Do you? Does anyone else on here? I've said it before, the very innovative One Antrim scheme is a mere tenner a month, £2.50 a week. The price of a cup of coffee. Who can't afford that? If all the naysayers during Dawson's reign, all the keyboard warriors out there who are happy to sit behind a computer screen and bemoan our county's fortunes were to actually help the county by signing up to this scheme we might actually be in the  financial position to attract a manager of the status of Tony McEntee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
You can also be called a keyboard warrior. You could be hiding behind a fake name fake stories about yourself. As for doing my bit. I go to the games I pay in. I buy the tickets for the draw at half time. I go to both codes. Financially 10 quid a week would be grand. add in club membership, gym membership a host of other bills the kids fees for everything they do it certainly adds up.

If there is a disparity in both codes that should be addressed. Im all for equality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!
?
On the under 21 topic, I see they have introduced a b championship for first round teams that have been knocked out, good or bad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 18, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.

There's a difference between being hard and fair and downright thuggary. The lines are most definitely blurred in Antrim (especially Belfast) GAA.

St Galls should be the example for everyone about playing hard but fair. Never any dirt associated with them. Sickening criminal acts are too often carried out by teams and each and every incident must be highlighted or else it will continue. Its not right to go out to play football/hurling and be hospitalised by a broken jaw/leg etc following a criminal assault. Do these Neanderthals not remember incidents such as what happened to Marc McGovern of Fermanagh in USA when he was brain damaged as they are cowardly punching or kicking someone from behind/their blindside or swinging a hurl at their head. People who knowingly, wrongfully dismiss some acts only serve to ensure that they recur time and again. As MR2 said if id have cowardly carried out such an act from behind unprovoked (other than the fact someone got the better of them at sport, which is usually the provocation here) done the same my Da woulda emptied me, not supported me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 18, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
From 'Glensman'
Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!

Clearly not happy or ready to move on...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 18, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.
"i wasnt there"-maybe the only important thing u said there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 18, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.

There's a difference between being hard and fair and downright thuggary. The lines are most definitely blurred in Antrim (especially Belfast) GAA.

St Galls should be the example for everyone about playing hard but fair. Never any dirt associated with them. Sickening criminal acts are too often carried out by teams and each and every incident must be highlighted or else it will continue. Its not right to go out to play football/hurling and be hospitalised by a broken jaw/leg etc following a criminal assault. Do these Neanderthals not remember incidents such as what happened to Marc McGovern of Fermanagh in USA when he was brain damaged as they are cowardly punching or kicking someone from behind/their blindside or swinging a hurl at their head. People who knowingly, wrongfully dismiss some acts only serve to ensure that they recur time and again. As MR2 said if id have cowardly carried out such an act from behind unprovoked (other than the fact someone got the better of them at sport, which is usually the provocation here) done the same my Da woulda emptied me, not supported me.

Not talking about the Johnnies here (seems I have to put a disclaimer in now for everything I say) but we are at the point were 'hard men' of the 80's are now the fathers of players that are plying their trade in the juvenile/senior grades, it's very difficult for these lads to not be influenced by these stories form their dads. Hopefully this will die off. which makes me think of teams that are hard but fair (not dirty) teams- Creggan, Cargin (now, they had a bad rep years ago) Naomhgall, Portglenone, St Teresa's, Eire Og, Moneyglass, St Brigids GAC Rossa, St Enda's, and  Dunloy. Just my opinion 8)

We've had a few rockets over the years but they usually never lasted, was never in our training (I always wonder did teams train players how to be dirty cnuts, or were they always dirty cnuts)

On another note the lads are training away and playing a few games to keep them ticking over, since the final was so long ago I hope they are up to speed as the Donegal Champions will have two weeks and straight into it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 19, 2013, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 18, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.
"i wasnt there"-maybe the only important thing u said there.

Me not being there has feck all to do with whether a guy was lamped a few times?!

Does it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 19, 2013, 03:01:45 AM
the game was not dirty at all.i was there.only incidents involved 2 players who were having a bit of a ding dong with neither prepared to back down.i think the guy your talking about  was no angel and more than held his own in these exchanges.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 10:08:12 AM
Dublin and Antrim playing today (weather permitting and pitch playable) at Naomh Gall for 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 19, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
Sherlock looking for ye
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 19, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
Sherlock looking for ye

He never played today which is good caused the lads they had playing were great, serious fitness levels shown by the Dublin team today, we were competitive for big periods but manged to let them score goals which was the major difference. Good banter and fair play to all involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 20, 2013, 06:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 18, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind
bad call for a ref to be coming out with pre-conceived notions about who is dirty and who isnt.from div 1 u reckon us,l.d and st.pauls are dirty.i,ve always found l.d and st.pauls to play the game hard but fair and with a lot of pride.to suggest that both these fine clubs are sending their players out to be dirty is doing them a great disservise.these teams do not rollover,they battle.surely that has to be admired not scorned upon

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.

There's a difference between being hard and fair and downright thuggary. The lines are most definitely blurred in Antrim (especially Belfast) GAA.

St Galls should be the example for everyone about playing hard but fair. Never any dirt associated with them. Sickening criminal acts are too often carried out by teams and each and every incident must be highlighted or else it will continue. Its not right to go out to play football/hurling and be hospitalised by a broken jaw/leg etc following a criminal assault. Do these Neanderthals not remember incidents such as what happened to Marc McGovern of Fermanagh in USA when he was brain damaged as they are cowardly punching or kicking someone from behind/their blindside or swinging a hurl at their head. People who knowingly, wrongfully dismiss some acts only serve to ensure that they recur time and again. As MR2 said if id have cowardly carried out such an act from behind unprovoked (other than the fact someone got the better of them at sport, which is usually the provocation here) done the same my Da woulda emptied me, not supported me.

Not talking about the Johnnies here (seems I have to put a disclaimer in now for everything I say) but we are at the point were 'hard men' of the 80's are now the fathers of players that are plying their trade in the juvenile/senior grades, it's very difficult for these lads to not be influenced by these stories form their dads. Hopefully this will die off. which makes me think of teams that are hard but fair (not dirty) teams- Creggan, Cargin (now, they had a bad rep years ago) Naomhgall, Portglenone, St Teresa's, Eire Og, Moneyglass, St Brigids GAC Rossa, St Enda's, and  Dunloy. Just my opinion 8)

We've had a few rockets over the years but they usually never lasted, was never in our training (I always wonder did teams train players how to be dirty cnuts, or were they always dirty cnuts)

On another note the lads are training away and playing a few games to keep them ticking over, since the final was so long ago I hope they are up to speed as the Donegal Champions will have two weeks and straight into it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 20, 2013, 06:56:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 18, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 18, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 17, 2013, 05:20:22 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 17, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 16, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2013, 07:58:53 AM
Another twist in the Dawson saga in IN today . Not a major shock as we all suspected there was more to it but why oh why does the county board leave themselves wide open for ridicule. Unprofessional is being kind
so out of the div 1 teams that leaves us,l.d and st pauls.i always thought l.d and st.pauls played the game hard but fair .to suggest these clubs are sendin their teams out to be dirty is doin them a great disservice.teams who are willin to battle and not rollover are to be admired and not scorned upon.

What did the article say?

On another note I understand the Johnnies were dishing out a bit of dirt in their under 21 match v St Brigids. Seemed a comfortable result and am guessing was never in doubt before they fielded with all their juvenile success of late so one wonders why?! Belfast (G)gaels...tut tut again.
handbags concernin 2 lads who were as bad as each other.move on,nothing to see here!

Not what I heard sir but happy to move on...if thugs would do likewise from the Gaelic pitch!
i think there was 3 yellow cards the whole game.hardly a belfast gaels type game,more like somebody trying to stir the shit!

No shit-stirring here sir...just kind of think dirty actions on the field should not be missed. The mpre they go on they more they will continute to go on.

May be misinformed and I wasn't there but a few belts to the head/throat is grand sure...isn't it.

There's a difference between being hard and fair and downright thuggary. The lines are most definitely blurred in Antrim (especially Belfast) GAA.

St Galls should be the example for everyone about playing hard but fair. Never any dirt associated with them. Sickening criminal acts are too often carried out by teams and each and every incident must be highlighted or else it will continue. Its not right to go out to play football/hurling and be hospitalised by a broken jaw/leg etc following a criminal assault. Do these Neanderthals not remember incidents such as what happened to Marc McGovern of Fermanagh in USA when he was brain damaged as they are cowardly punching or kicking someone from behind/their blindside or swinging a hurl at their head. People who knowingly, wrongfully dismiss some acts only serve to ensure that they recur time and again. As MR2 said if id have cowardly carried out such an act from behind unprovoked (other than the fact someone got the better of them at sport, which is usually the provocation here) done the same my Da woulda emptied me, not supported me.

Not talking about the Johnnies here (seems I have to put a disclaimer in now for everything I say) but we are at the point were 'hard men' of the 80's are now the fathers of players that are plying their trade in the juvenile/senior grades, it's very difficult for these lads to not be influenced by these stories form their dads. Hopefully this will die off. which makes me think of teams that are hard but fair (not dirty) teams- Creggan, Cargin (now, they had a bad rep years ago) Naomhgall, Portglenone, St Teresa's, Eire Og, Moneyglass, St Brigids GAC Rossa, St Enda's, and  Dunloy. Just my opinion 8)

We've had a few rockets over the years but they usually never lasted, was never in our training (I always wonder did teams train players how to be dirty cnuts, or were they always dirty cnuts)

On another note the lads are training away and playing a few games to keep them ticking over, since the final was so long ago I hope they are up to speed as the Donegal Champions will have two weeks and straight into it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
Aldergrove got a serious win today against Creggan.

will that fortunate win keep them up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 21, 2013, 01:14:34 PM
Aldergroves win keeps them up, great achievement from them and they will no doubt be looking to build from this and push on next year. The other relegation place will be sorted next Sunday in the Rossa, Moneyglass game winner stays up loser to go down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
That was a fair tanking Moneyglass gave the Johnnies. You'd wonder...

Thats the way it goes, Rossa shouldn't have to look to the Johnnies for help. I know yous would return the favour given half the chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 21, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
That was a fair tanking Moneyglass gave the Johnnies. You'd wonder...

Thats the way it goes, Rossa shouldn't have to look to the Johnnies for help. I know yous would return the favour given half the chance

What's do think your chances for Ulster this year Row?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on October 21, 2013, 06:14:52 PM
Dont think its fair that relegation can be decided by results at this stage of the season when most teams aren't training. E.g Moneyglass beating St Johns & Aldergrove beating Creggan, results that probably would've been different earlier on in the season. It isn't fair for some teams in a relegation battle who have to play all the 'bigger' teams earlier in the year. The league should be ran off sooner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 21, 2013, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on October 21, 2013, 06:14:52 PM
Dont think its fair that relegation can be decided by results at this stage of the season when most teams aren't training. E.g Moneyglass beating St Johns & Aldergrove beating Creggan, results that probably would've been different earlier on in the season. It isn't fair for some teams in a relegation battle who have to play all the 'bigger' teams earlier in the year. The league should be ran off sooner

johnnies had 2 men on on sat who are a good few years older than me - and im pushing 43 !!
Its obvious that getting a team together on a sat afternoon to go out of the city to the country is no easy task when there is nothing at stake.

Likewise creggan yesterday. that's what happens in october
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: glens abu on October 21, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
That was a fair tanking Moneyglass gave the Johnnies. You'd wonder...

Thats the way it goes, Rossa shouldn't have to look to the Johnnies for help. I know yous would return the favour given half the chance

What's do think your chances for Ulster this year Row?

Traditionally the Donegal teams don't do well, but this Glenswilly team have  won a couple of Championships and are maybe going to push on (I hope not) will watch the game tonight on tg4, they racked up a big score on Sunday and with Gallagher and Murphy in your team you will do very well no matter who you meet. The games in Ballybofey also so another bonus for them

Our lads have trained very hard and have watched them in a couple of games lately, they've played well and fingers crossed we get over the line on the 3rd, Cavan Fermanagh champion's then await in the semi. Would love to get to another final and take whatever teams comes out of the group of death!!

Most clubmen are looking a honest hard working game from the lads, they are starting to get near and over thirty now so they know they won't get much more goes at this stage. Without blaming anyone last year I think we took our eye off the ball against Kilcoo. We were comfortable without actually pushing on and when they got the goal we couldn't get back in front!!

The suspended lads are back and that will boost the squad for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 21, 2013, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: glens abu on October 21, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
That was a fair tanking Moneyglass gave the Johnnies. You'd wonder...

Thats the way it goes, Rossa shouldn't have to look to the Johnnies for help. I know yous would return the favour given half the chance

What's do think your chances for Ulster this year Row?

Traditionally the Donegal teams don't do well, but this Glenswilly team have  won a couple of Championships and are maybe going to push on (I hope not) will watch the game tonight on tg4, they racked up a big score on Sunday and with Gallagher and Murphy in your team you will do very well no matter who you meet. The games in Ballybofey also so another bonus for them

Are lads have trained very hard and have watched them in a couple of games lately, they've played well and fingers crossed we get over the line on the 3rd, Cavan Fermanagh champion's then await in the semi. Would love to get to another final and take whatever teams comes out of the group of death!!

Most clubmen are looking a honest hard working game from the lads, they are starting to get near and over thirty now so they know they won't get much more goes at this stage. Without blaming anyone last year I think we took our eye off the ball against Kilcoo. We were comfortable without actually pushing on and when they got the goal we couldn't get back in front!!

The suspended lads are back and that will boost the squad for sure

Yeah would think Glenswilly will be the test,would fancy you to win the semi if you get through the Donegal tie.Good luck anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on October 21, 2013, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
That was a fair tanking Moneyglass gave the Johnnies. You'd wonder...
Hard Station, as a Johnnies man I was disgusted that we barely fielded after St. Galls beat us in Championship against yourselves on the Wed night.  We gifted Rossa 2 points which will help you stay up.  I believe you can beat Moneyglass next week to survive.  I can assure you our lads wouldn't be thinking about sending Rossa down, however in my day it would have been my greatest motivation! lol

Sorry to see youse back in Div 2 in the Hurling, sort it out up on the Shaws Rd.  Rossa gave two great performances against St. Johns and can certainly feel aggrieved at only managing 1 point from 4.  What baffles me is how you can raise your game for us but barely field at other times.  Rossa with the players they have should be comfortable in Div 1.  Loughuile, Cushendall and to a lesser extent Dunloy are well in front of the rest, everyone else is capable of beating one another.  Rossa should be beating the Ards teams comfortably and I make no apologies for saying that.

Severe lack of leadership , time for a clear out or a once great club is heading for mediocrity or worse!!!  Again I get no pleasure in stating that.  St. Johns need Rossa at their peak as does Belfast and Antrim hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 09:39:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Ah, we'll be alright. A bit stale at the minute but a good shake up will come soon. Yourselves had a similar poor patch a couple of years ago which saw yis drop into intermediate but sure yis came out of it again. No crisis.

Very good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 22, 2013, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
That was a fair tanking Moneyglass gave the Johnnies. You'd wonder...

Thats the way it goes, Rossa shouldn't have to look to the Johnnies for help. I know yous would return the favour given half the chance
could be one of the games of the year huns v mglass.im actually surprised both these teams are fighting relegation.can see it being a point in it either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 23, 2013, 04:17:19 PM
Any news on the Managers job,Brendan Crossen very quiet so not many rumours floating about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:57:16 PM
Johnnies and Lamhs under 21 game abondoned yesterday? Extra time Lamhs on the acendency and the game ended in fisty cuffs at both ends I'm led to believ, I wasn't there but heard Garret blew it up due to the 'handbags'

Believe a county player (not a under 21) was blattering away, maybe jftj could fill us in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2013, 06:14:12 PM
I heard it was blown up for fcuk all (pushing and shoving over a contested line ball) with 2 minutes left.

We beat Moneyglass today and stay up. Great stuff.

Oh funny that, suppose it depends on who you hear it from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 27, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2013, 06:14:12 PM
I heard it was blown up for fcuk all (pushing and shoving over a contested line ball) with 2 minutes left.

We beat Moneyglass today and stay up. Great stuff.

Oh funny that, suppose it depends on who you hear it from
Yeah,yet another terrible performance by Duffy the ref.ruined a cracking game.johhnies were up by 4 with 5mins to go.ref was only man in the park who failed to see lambs full forward pick ball off the deck to set up their goal.lamhs looked likely to win after equalising with 2 mins to go.small melee took place in the middle of the pitch which resulted in  county player getting booked for receiving a dig in the gub.lamhs were left frustrated at the match being abandoned when in a favourable decision,we were left frustrated by his usual bad calls against us.if there is to be a replay lets just hope we get a good ref who is up to job of referreeing these 2 fine teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 27, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
Maybe the ref thought it could have got a lot worse. To many times fights have escalated and people blame the ref for not nipping it in the bud?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 27, 2013, 08:03:09 PM
It really wasn't that bad and there was only 2 mins on the clock.terrible decision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on October 27, 2013, 08:20:25 PM
The ref done well to play extra time at hannahstown this time !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on October 28, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
Call me old fashioned but when the referee gives the crowd the 'bird' surely he should hang up his whistle.  Duffy's behaviour was attrious something more akin to the terraces of Windsor Pk. I would like to think he should be challenged by officialdom for his behavior?

Fair enough he was getting a bit of stick from the crowd but his reaction was pathetic, you would think he would be better concentrating on the game rather than engaging with the crowd.

As for his performance, can only be described in one word, beginning with c and ending with t, 5 letters not 4!  :)

He is the man running the show regarding referee's in Antrim, he needs to take a good look at himself and the way he officiates, maybe he should just concentrate on the administrative side of the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: The Memory Man on October 28, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
Call me old fashioned but when the referee gives the crowd the 'bird' surely he should hang up his whistle.  Duffy's behaviour was attrious something more akin to the terraces of Windsor Pk. I would like to think he should be challenged by officialdom for his behavior?

Fair enough he was getting a bit of stick from the crowd but his reaction was pathetic, you would think he would be better concentrating on the game rather than engaging with the crowd.

As for his performance, can only be described in one word, beginning with c and ending with t, 5 letters not 4!  :)

He is the man running the show regarding referee's in Antrim, he needs to take a good look at himself and the way he officiates, maybe he should just concentrate on the administrative side of the job?

Try refereeing Memory man, Id say if you referee the Johnnies in Corrigan you'd pack it in, the abuse you get from the 'hill' is daft, they give out from start to finish and question your parentage the whole time, If I came on here and called you a bastard and you were always a bastard you'd be giving me more than the bird.

When two teams want to fight rather play football it makes things a lot harder to control.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 28, 2013, 10:56:24 AM
 >:(MR2, you're normally level headed and sensible with your comments. Regarding the game, and indeed all games, players should be and are usually held accountable. On this occasion, the referee failed to deal with the first skirmish, and walked off instead of doing what he was there to do when a second coming together happened with a couple of minutes remaining. This was the best game I've attended in 2013 and I've probably seen 3 or 4 games every week. That's what should be getting the air time on this forum. I am a fervent supporter of referees and without exception stick up for them even when they get it wrong. Does anyone hold the referee to task for making an error of this nature. We're not talking about him not seeing a clear foul and not giving it. We've all made those mistakes. To walk away at that stage of the game left everyone there in a state of confusion asking why.  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
'When two teams want to fight rather play football it makes things a lot harder to control'.

For the majority of the game this was not the case.  In fact, given the conditions and with the exceptions of a few overly robust tackles and couple of flare-ups towards the end, both teams served up a decent game.  I can even say that the ref took the conditions into account in letting a lot go, giving some players the benefit of the doubt rather than dishing out cards.  I'll give him credit for that at least.  Some wouldn't.

As I've said before, I tend to take up a vantage point divorced from the rest of my club mates - and I am a Naomh Eoin man before you ask.  From that vantage point I saw some of my club mates questioning the ref's laissez faire approach at times, while at other times bemoaning his inconsistency.  Same from the Lamh Dhearg supporters as it happens but to a lesser extent.  I can take that any day of the week.

Likewise, if you think it appropriate to give the 'bird' to someone in the crowd who asks him, and I quote 'do your job', in sorting out the constant encroachment by the defending player at free kicks, or whether it is appropriate telling a player to 'go fcuk himself' shortly afterwards, then that's fair enough.  We're all human after all and we all have a breaking point. 

I'm also glad there's an admission that referees do react to what's being directed from the sidelines or the crowd.  So take that thought one step further.  Would these reactions, however understandable, influence the way he officiates or treats one team?  Again, human nature dictates that it would...one of the reasons why I have no desire to be a referee...someone annoys me I'll sometimes try to annoy them back!  Fair play to those that do though.  I won't criticise anyone who admits they can get it wrong sometimes.  I suspect the report from Saturday's match won't contain any such admission unfortunately.

Give respect, get respect is a great mantra to push with all our players from U8 right up to senior.  Clubs have a lot to do in getting all their players to buy into it.  But it works both ways.  If a player can be sidelined for either of the actions mentioned above, why should the man in the middle be exempt from sanction?

So we'll await the 'gospel according to GD' with baited breath to see whether he has the capacity to recognise his human frailties...not holding out much hope mind you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 28, 2013, 11:42:03 AM
No red cards, couple of yellows for persistent fouling. Decent performance from your boys yesterday. Enough talent there to move to mid-table and beyond....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
'When two teams want to fight rather play football it makes things a lot harder to control'.

For the majority of the game this was not the case.  In fact, given the conditions and with the exceptions of a few overly robust tackles and couple of flare-ups towards the end, both teams served up a decent game.  I can even say that the ref took the conditions into account in letting a lot go, giving some players the benefit of the doubt rather than dishing out cards.  I'll give him credit for that at least.  Some wouldn't.

As I've said before, I tend to take up a vantage point divorced from the rest of my club mates - and I am a Naomh Eoin man before you ask.  From that vantage point I saw some of my club mates questioning the ref's laissez faire approach at times, while at other times bemoaning his inconsistency.  Same from the Lamh Dhearg supporters as it happens but to a lesser extent.  I can take that any day of the week.

Likewise, if you think it appropriate to give the 'bird' to someone in the crowd who asks him, and I quote 'do your job', in sorting out the constant encroachment by the defending player at free kicks, or whether it is appropriate telling a player to 'go fcuk himself' shortly afterwards, then that's fair enough.  We're all human after all and we all have a breaking point. 

I'm also glad there's an admission that referees do react to what's being directed from the sidelines or the crowd.  So take that thought one step further.  Would these reactions, however understandable, influence the way he officiates or treats one team?  Again, human nature dictates that it would...one of the reasons why I have no desire to be a referee...someone annoys me I'll sometimes try to annoy them back!  Fair play to those that do though.  I won't criticise anyone who admits they can get it wrong sometimes.  I suspect the report from Saturday's match won't contain any such admission unfortunately.

Give respect, get respect is a great mantra to push with all our players from U8 right up to senior.  Clubs have a lot to do in getting all their players to buy into it.  But it works both ways.  If a player can be sidelined for either of the actions mentioned above, why should the man in the middle be exempt from sanction?

So we'll await the 'gospel according to GD' with baited breath to see whether he has the capacity to recognise his human frailties...not holding out much hope mind you!


I'm obviously going on what I was told, I wasn't there but speaking to a clubman who was, I was busy refereeing the girls tournament at the club, in the pissing rain, I've just dried out, there wasn't a whimper from the parents (of which there was many) or a player the whole time (an example to the boys ;))

As for giving someone the finger I have been told he didn't as for telling some one fcuk off well as you say we all have our breaking point, if I was questioning your decisions all day long you'd be doing the same, as you have admitted. Everyone watching the game will have a view on how it's going, the referee does not intentionally set out to have a bad game, likewise the players also. I've on many occasions missed a foul, why? Maybe someone ran in front of me, I was tracking the ball and missed what happened before the ball got there, maybe he lifted it off the ground and I thought it hopped up, we are human, not robots who see everything and keep everyone happy.

Your are claiming referees will be 'influence the way he officiates or treats one team'  why? There seems to be a view that referees hold grudges, if someone is abusive to me I'll send him off and let the CCC deal with it, the more the referees do this the better, consistency for that also. You can't do that if they are standing on the hill ouside the pitch

Was also told that after the 'handbags' there were ten noted and red cards to be given to players, this would have made the game abandoned anyways
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
You don't think referees hold grudges.  You also tell us they are not robots, ergo they are human.  Human's, referees included, have the propensity to hold grudges.  Are referees exempt from this very human of emotions?

Take it from me, he did flash the finger.  Did it not 10 yards away from me much to the disbelief of most of the people in the vicinity, both Naomh Eoin and Lamh Dhearg men alike.  Whoever told you he didn't is either lying to you, wasn't standing at that part of the ground, or wasn't even at the match.

As I said, it matters not one jot what me or anyone else thinks happened.  I think he was restarting the game having dealt with the initial handbags, having issued cards, and then decided he couldn't be arsed anymore.  Most people at the match thought that.  The umpires and linesmen seemed to think that. 

Unfortunately, now it looks like we'll be presented with the narrative that WW3 had broken out and he was going to abandon it anyway.  You heard it here first folks.  Do me a favour MR2.  Ask the man in question if he did the action in question.  Let us know when he tells you he didn't so we can add that to the grudge pile.  We have a lot of them.  We're human you see...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 28, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
Beller clearly delighted with the win yesterday. An auld set of black jerseys would've come in handy yesterday...:-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
You don't think referees hold grudges.  You also tell us they are not robots, ergo they are human.  Human's, referees included, have the propensity to hold grudges.  Are referees exempt from this very human of emotions?

Take it from me, he did flash the finger.  Did it not 10 yards away from me much to the disbelief of most of the people in the vicinity, both Naomh Eoin and Lamh Dhearg men alike.  Whoever told you he didn't is either lying to you, wasn't standing at that part of the ground, or wasn't even at the match.

As I said, it matters not one jot what me or anyone else thinks happened.  I think he was restarting the game having dealt with the initial handbags, having issued cards, and then decided he couldn't be arsed anymore.  Most people at the match thought that.  The umpires and linesmen seemed to think that. 

Unfortunately, now it looks like we'll be presented with the narrative that WW3 had broken out and he was going to abandon it anyway.  You heard it here first folks.  Do me a favour MR2.  Ask the man in question if he did the action in question.  Let us know when he tells you he didn't so we can add that to the grudge pile.  We have a lot of them.  We're human you see...

As I've said before, I tend to take up a vantage point divorced from the rest of my club mates is that ten yards away?  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
In this case you certainly could, given that there were not much more than 100 at the game and that the perimeter at Hannahstown - or the Highway to Health - is massive.  Could you not be 10 yards away from the incident, standing on your own, well away from anyone else?  I'll draw you a diagram if you want to continue to split hairs:)

Roll on the wee Joe's grand inquisition and the quest for the truth...or not.  I know he did it, he knows he did it but I doubt he's going to admit it or the refereeing fraternity are willing to countenance that he did.

That's life I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on October 28, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
MR2 don't defend the indefensible, it only makes you look stupid.  I appreciate the men in black need to stick together but seriously!  As for referee's not holding grudges...are you having a laugh. 

At the minute there is a good cohort of referees, yourself  :), Totes, Mark O'Neill, Aidan Kelly & Collie McKnight however we have our tubes and Mr Duffy is king of the inflatables!!  Don't get me started about our arrogant and ignorant friend Owen Elliott, Mr Personality!!!

As a long standing member of the GAA with a still significant input and someone who has represented the County from U14 to Senior I feel I am in a position to comment.  Referees do a great job and only for them we would have no games, I have the utmost respect for them but when the power goes to their head and it's all about "me" then they have to be the centre of attention its time to pack it in.

The best referees were those who were anonymous, left their egos in the dressing room before they went out ie. Billy Reid (RIP), Tommy McIntyre, Sean Murray, Jim Donnelly, Mick Dwyer (RIP).. guys who just got on with the game, had a smile on their face and told you to behave yourself before they booked you ;)  Unfortunately we have others in Antrim in the past and currently who think they are the most important person on the pitch, i'll not name names but im sure the posters on here could name a few alright!

Don't get me wrong I have no axe to grind with referees, we all just want a bit of honesty and integrity from the men in the middle, unfortunately we don't always get it. 

GIVE RESPECT GET RESPECT.  It seemed to be lacking in this case.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
In this case you certainly could, given that there were not much more than 100 at the game and that the perimeter at Hannahstown - or the Highway to Health - is massive.  Could you not be 10 yards away from the incident, standing on your own, well away from anyone else?  I'll draw you a diagram if you want to continue to split hairs:)

Roll on the wee Joe's grand inquisition and the quest for the truth...or not.  I know he did it, he knows he did it but I doubt he's going to admit it or the refereeing fraternity are willing to countenance that he did.

That's life I suppose.

I'll not need a diagram, I stuck a smiley face on the end to say I was having a laugh

Ok a serious question, from your vantage point did you see anyone get struck by a mentor? (current county footballer)

Was there any red card offences? (striking/attempting to strike with hand or foot)

Did Garret cause it?

Was Garret getting abuse from any players/mentors/supporters during the game? How would you deal with that?

Do you think it's fair game to come on to a discussion board and hid behind a alias and ridicule a gaa official?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on October 28, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
MR2 don't defend the indefensible, it only makes you look stupid.  I appreciate the men in black need to stick together but seriously!  As for referee's not holding grudges...are you having a laugh. 

At the minute there is a good cohort of referees, yourself  :), Totes, Mark O'Neill, Aidan Kelly & Collie McKnight however we have our tubes and Mr Duffy is king of the inflatables!!  Don't get me started about our arrogant and ignorant friend Owen Elliott, Mr Personality!!!

As a long standing member of the GAA with a still significant input and someone who has represented the County from U14 to Senior I feel I am in a position to comment.  Referees do a great job and only for them we would have no games, I have the utmost respect for them but when the power goes to their head and it's all about "me" then they have to be the centre of attention its time to pack it in.

The best referees were those who were anonymous, left their egos in the dressing room before they went out ie. Billy Reid (RIP), Tommy McIntyre, Sean Murray, Jim Donnelly, Mick Dwyer (RIP).. guys who just got on with the game, had a smile on their face and told you to behave yourself before they booked you ;)  Unfortunately we have others in Antrim in the past and currently who think they are the most important person on the pitch, i'll not name names but im sure the posters on here could name a few alright!

Don't get me wrong I have no axe to grind with referees, we all just want a bit of honesty and integrity from the men in the middle, unfortunately we don't always get it. 

GIVE RESPECT GET RESPECT.  It seemed to be lacking in this case.

Stupid? hmmm lets see, long standing member of the GAA? how do i know? you could be some fool who's never been a member of any club for all I know ;)

Power? are you daft? what power is he getting from refereeing a match? I'd love to know. It's very simple, you blow the whistle and call the fouls/scores as you see them, the game is easy up to the point when teams would rather get involved in handbags, then it shifts to the referee, he caused it, wise up

I've know Garrett a right few years in fairness of course I'm going to take a view that he tried to referee it as fairly as he can, I don't think as a referee you go out there to favour a team over another I know I don't (do any of those current referees you mention do that?), I'm a Galls man I've no love for most clubs, playing so many years gives you that, I must admit that as you get older you mellow and the lads who you were up against as a lad become good mates.

Banter is fine I can deal with that, christ I've left myself open many times so getting friendly abuse is grand, but once it turns nasty it really is crap, Garrett I believe took a bit of the nasty stuff and it has continued on the this board.

I wasn't there so can't actually comment on the events only tell you what I was told, so I'm not in a postion to defend what happen, I think it's only fair of me to defend Garrett, I've watched him referee many games, he's his way and other referees you mentioned, all of which I played under, special mention to Mick and Billy RIP to both, great referees as you say had a bitta common sense.

You said you'll not mention names but have with Garrett. The last comment could be used a different way

GET RESPECT GIVE RESPECT it seems to be lacking by a lot of teams.

Lets not get into a slagging match, we all have gripes, I've had a lot of run ins with officials and a player, manager and as long standing gaa man ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 08:58:10 PM
I'll not need a diagram, I stuck a smiley face on the end to say I was having a laugh

And I stuck a colon/closed bracket on the end of mine - smiley face in other words.  You could say I was aware of your jest.

Ok a serious question, from your vantage point did you see anyone get struck by a mentor? (current county footballer)

The simple answer is no.  I think I've figured out who you're referring to.  He was involved in the row, yes.  Did I see him strike anyone, no.  Doesn't mean he didn't though does it.  Serious question to you.  Did you see him strike anyone?  The answer to that would have to be no as you were in Naomh Gall officiating at the U16 tournament so someone told you he did.

Was there any red card offences? (striking/attempting to strike with hand or foot)

There probably were.  Was that not what the referee was dealing with when he was taking all those names and decided nobody was being sent off?  Would any of the things attributed to the ref be considered red card offences?  What would happen if a player verbally abused the referee or gestured to him in a similar way.  What's the rule on that?

Did Garret cause it?

Where did I say he did?  Read my posts.  I passed comment on his hand gesture and verbals to players.  Those involved in the row caused it.

Was Garret getting abuse from any players/mentors/supporters during the game? How would you deal with that?

Already said he was.  How would you deal with it?  Tell me the guidance referees are given for dealing with it and I'll tell you whether the ref on Saturday adhered to it.  Surely the same rules are applied in all cases.

Do you think it's fair game to come on to a discussion board and hid behind a alias and ridicule a gaa official?

I have pointed out things that occurred at a match I watched which happened to involve a referee.  It's entirely up to you if you want to consider it to be ridiculous - although it was ridiculous, if you know what I mean  :-\

I'm hiding behind the same anonymity as you and the rest of the people who post.  Do you think it's fair game to come on a discussion board and ridicule (your words) GAA players, mentors, CCC, county board, members of other clubs, an coiste bainisti and Croke Park etc on a regular basis?  Seems to happen a great deal - not for a minute suggesting you do it though.  You saying referees are a special breed exempt from fair comment, for that's what I consider my contributions to be?

'but once it turns nasty it really is crap, Garrett I believe took a bit of the nasty stuff and it has continued on the this board'

Nastiness?  No nastiness from me on Saturday and no nastiness in any of my posts today - if you are referring to my posts in your comment above.  I pointed out something I saw the referee do and something I heard him say.  If you don't think that's worthy of mention then fair enough.  I'll continue to think it is but no point flogging a dead horse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
Garrett was told by a Johnnies man in a tracksuit (some fat lad) that he was a useless cnut, I'm afraid to say I'd call him the same back or words to that affect. But you have heard what Garrett said but failed to hear what your own clubman said, strange how we only hear/see some things

I asked the question, did Garrett cause it? I didn't mention you said he did

guidance for referees when there is persistant abuse is simple, send the player/mentor off, you can't send someone off if they are behind a fence, so they can continue to abuse the referee

It may say Milltown Row but I'm not hiding behind anonymity as i make it clear on numerous occasions who I am

I said he took nastiness from certain sections, questioning his integrity and his fairness in a game where he has to be seen as being fair

I have had a pop at people and again make no hiding of who I am, but it's my view on it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 28, 2013, 11:42:54 PM
That's me told then.  Referees are off limits.  I take everything back.  You win.  I'm away to hide behind that big cloak of anonymity...

You can consider the horse well and truly flogged.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2013, 07:51:00 AM
It's not about winning it's about seeing both sides. Im sure in hindsight like all referees they walk away from a match wondering could they have played that better. just like players and managers they may get it wrong. Many a time during a game id love to shout over to the line to shut da fcuk up. or get of the pitch ya fat bastrd. Hey i might do iyou slabber long enough.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on October 29, 2013, 09:53:33 AM
OK MR2, it looks as if we will have to agree to disagree, I agree with my learner colleague no point flogging a dead horse! 

But one last question; should a referee not be administered by the same rules as the rest of us, if I abused the referee either verbally or with a gesture, he books/ sends me off which is only but right.  Surly the same rules should apply to him regardless of the provarication.  I only ever retaliated I never hit anyone first,  ;) but I was still wrong and got sanctioned accordingly so to say he was provoked doesn't really cut it.

On the other hand maybe referees are infallible like the Pope, if memory serves me right GD travelled that road for a while  :)

I'm sure we are boring everyone at this stage with this, so let's move on, and by the way you'se do a great job and fair play to you.  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 29, 2013, 11:20:21 AM
I see Brendan Crossen is making up stories again,said at weekend Pete Mcgrath in for Antrim job but in today's IN McGrath said its first he heard about it.That Crossen boy is some clown, that must be about 6 names he has put forward as applying for the job and all have denied it,seems like he tells as many lies as that brother of his. :-[What is your agenda Brendan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2013, 11:33:58 AM
Quote from: The Memory Man on October 29, 2013, 09:53:33 AM
OK MR2, it looks as if we will have to agree to disagree, I agree with my learner colleague no point flogging a dead horse! 

But one last question; should a referee not be administered by the same rules as the rest of us, if I abused the referee either verbally or with a gesture, he books/ sends me off which is only but right.  Surly the same rules should apply to him regardless of the provarication.  I only ever retaliated I never hit anyone first,  ;) but I was still wrong and got sanctioned accordingly so to say he was provoked doesn't really cut it.

On the other hand maybe referees are infallible like the Pope, if memory serves me right GD travelled that road for a while  :)

I'm sure we are boring everyone at this stage with this, so let's move on, and by the way you'se do a great job and fair play to you.  :)

I agree with you that all referees have to answer to the CCC also, I was only giving the view as a referee and what I heard. I doubt very much had Garrett would have done anything that has been alledged here had he not been abused, he'll admit to telling someone to fcuk off I'm sure and if he did the finger then that also. So if he puts that in his report the CCC will no doubt deal with that.

But I hope we are in agreement that clubs need to ensure their mentors managers and players try and curtail the abuse and CCC and referees committie address referees. But in the course of a years games at all levels the amount of times a referee has reacted to abuse given to him by a club must be very minimal compared to the other way around.

Can't wait till next season lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 29, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
This has been a fantastic read since the weekend, all focusing on the Referee, again nothing knew there either. However with the exception of MR2 who is presenting the bigger problem and picture, a number of mentors and substitutes ran onto the field and got involved in something that had nothing to do with them, the lads on the field would have I'm sure been dealt with accordingly and the game would have come to its final conclusion of its own accord and from what I hear up to then it was an excellent game. All you jonnies men have not once mentioned until pressed by MR2 the actual incident.

Everyone that ran onto the pitch and got involved contributed to a melee Yes
Everyone that struck someone else should be dealt with? Players and Mentors Yes
Senior Club officials and "legends" calling both the Referee and opposition B's C's and all the rest. Yes
Lads that up until the mentors and leaders got involved now going to suffer. Yes
Competition suffers for their lack of involvement. Yes
Clubs going behind the scenes telling lies looking back room deals to rubbish a mans character. Yes

You know something lads, he is a f****n fool why would you do it!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 30, 2013, 12:37:56 PM
So lamhs v johnnies is to be replayed in Glenavy this sat!

Both teams will be minus a few players with up to 8 getting bans & a few mentors also.

Think Duffy should've finished the game last week but that was his call, his duty was to keep control and he lost control of himself by the sounds of it and not for the 1 st time, I hear he did something similar last year in Dunloy at a hurling game, made a gesture to the crowd but it was brushed under carpet.

Heard up to four 2 year bans handed out for u16 hurling game, a few one year bans and some lesser ones also, busy few weeks in antrim gaa disciplinary corridors!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 30, 2013, 12:37:56 PM
So lamhs v johnnies is to be replayed in Glenavy this sat!

Both teams will be minus a few players with up to 8 getting bans & a few mentors also.

Think Duffy should've finished the game last week but that was his call, his duty was to keep control and he lost control of himself by the sounds of it and not for the 1 st time, I hear he did something similar last year in Dunloy at a hurling game, made a gesture to the crowd but it was brushed under carpet.

Heard up to four 2 year bans handed out for u16 hurling game, a few one year bans and some lesser ones also, busy few weeks in antrim gaa disciplinary corridors!
Glad to hear the match will be replayed as I didn't think it would have been fair to punish the teams for the refs ineptitude.it really is hard to see how 8 players are going to be suspended for such a small incident.duffy must have made out it was like world war 3 to explain his shocking decision to abandon the match.now we are going to have a number of lads suspended for f all.no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 30, 2013, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
If there was a brawl, it is likely that 8 people struck or attempted to strike.

I understand that the usual GAA 'rule' is you put 1 off from each team after a 30 man brawl.
Obvious that u weren't at the game.there wasn't 8 punches thrown never mind 8 people throwing them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2013, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
If there was a brawl, it is likely that 8 people struck or attempted to strike.

I understand that the usual GAA 'rule' is you put 1 off from each team after a 30 man brawl.
Obvious that u weren't at the game.there wasn't 8 punches thrown never mind 8 people throwing them.

Was Lamhs winning the game at this point? Could the Johnnies have made a comeback?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 30, 2013, 01:58:01 PM
Lamhs had just equalised with 2mins left to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2013, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 01:58:01 PM
Lamhs had just equalised with 2mins left to go.

Oh right, thought there was 4 to go? 2 plus 2 injury ;) 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 30, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
I think there were too many people going in to make sure there wasn,t a brawl i.e to separate the teams.maybe this spooked the ref.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2013, 03:46:49 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
I think there were too many people going in to make sure there wasn,t a brawl i.e to separate the teams.maybe this spooked the ref.

Look it's the domino effect, one in all in ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 30, 2013, 07:24:13 PM
Who is left in the competition? Say if both these teams perhaps were missing four players would they still be clear favourites after this round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 31, 2013, 10:25:35 AM
Well I see Crossen has it this morning in IN its a straight fight between Madden and Adams v The Baker boys.He has to be right sometime so hope its now as I have always felt we need a young Antrim team to take us forward and think Madden and Adams should be given a chance.Saffron through and through.The Baker for me has had his day,a good couple of years then went downhill but the big minus for me would be the inclusion of Paddy a man who huffs and puffs if things not going his way.Could be a recipe for disaster if Father and son got job. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2013, 10:38:38 AM
Quote from: glens abu on October 31, 2013, 10:25:35 AM
Well I see Crossen has it this morning in IN its a straight fight between Madden and Adams v The Baker boys.He has to be right sometime so hope its now as I have always felt we need a young Antrim team to take us forward and think Madden and Adams should be given a chance.Saffron through and through.The Baker for me has had his day,a good couple of years then went downhill but the big minus for me would be the inclusion of Paddy a man who huffs and puffs if things not going his way.Could be a recipe for disaster if Father and son got job.

I'd love to manage our seniors again, but would rather wait till it's a new batch of players or least 10 years since I looked after them. Baker should do the same. I think if Madden and Adams get it they'd be using different tactics that they wouldn't have been able to do with the squads they worked with before, I know Madden has worked elsewhere but he'd have better knowledge of Antrim players and employ a style of play to get Antrim out of that league and competing again, I hope
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on October 31, 2013, 10:43:13 AM
Would take the IN with a big pinch of salt. Sure last week Pete McGrath was getting it  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2013, 10:44:11 AM
I'd like to see Madden and Adams. Madden has done some good things and I think it's inevitable that some day he will get the job. Adams seems to be willing as well.

As glens abu says Baker did a good job for a few years and has to be thanked for that but things were going downhill and were only masked by a win against a very mediocre Galway team. He did a great job getting us to the ulster final and up divisions etc though but I thought he took us as far as he could.

That and I wouldn't be convinced Paddy would have the temperament for management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 31, 2013, 10:59:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
Ok, so Adams has managed a mediocre St. John's team to mediocrity.

What about Madden? I remember reading the Derry thread where people were saying he disappointed them at the Loup? Where else has he been?

Hardstation to be fair they are both young men,I know Adams has had a few years at St.Johns but also gained a bit of experience with Antrim for a year.Madden has had a couple of years experience with Derry and I think he was also coach with Glenullin when they won Derry C'ship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: glens abu on October 31, 2013, 10:59:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
Ok, so Adams has managed a mediocre St. John's team to mediocrity.

What about Madden? I remember reading the Derry thread where people were saying he disappointed them at the Loup? Where else has he been?

Hardstation to be fair they are both young men,I know Adams has had a few years at St.Johns but also gained a bit of experience with Antrim for a year.Madden has had a couple of years experience with Derry and I think he was also coach with Glenullin when they won Derry C'ship.

Very difficult to manage a team in Antrim when Naomh Gall were (are) winning every championship going, even Cargin have brought in some cracking managers over the years and still couldn't do it. So managing in Antrim will always be judge on games won.

I think with all the best players available for selection the lads could give it a go and get the best out them, their hearts are all in the right place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2013, 11:39:58 AM
I don't think you would be appointing Adams & Madden on what they have achieved as coaches, given their ages. You would be appointing them on their potential. It's not as if there are a pile of outstanding candidates being overlooked & let's face it the only place the footballers can go is up.

I believe it was SaffronSam2 that said Madden was running the show in Glenullin when he was there as part of Bradley's team when they won Derry in 2009.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 31, 2013, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2013, 11:39:58 AM
I don't think you would be appointing Adams & Madden on what they have achieved as coaches, given their ages. You would be appointing them on their potential. It's not as if there are a pile of outstanding candidates being overlooked & let's face it the only place the footballers can go is up.

I believe it was SaffronSam2 that said Madden was running the show in Glenullin when he was there as part of Bradley's team when they won Derry in 2009.
Did you get lost when looking for the hurling thread?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thecracken on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
I was at the game and have watched this site all week about the incidents. the fighting yes I have definitely seen worse at games in the past, but be realistic I witnessed lads punching one another, mentors(Teachers) striking lads, lads getting punched and retaliating (as you would do). Fundamentally though why did the mentors run in to the first instance, the old excuse is going in to break it up, FFS when has that ever worked, and to often is used as an excuse to have a go. IMO if they had stayed out the situation would have quickly defused itself and we could have had and end to the game, which was extremely entertaining. What I will also say, I moved 3 times during the game to get away from groups of people hurling serious and foul abuse at the referee mainly, but also at the opposition, and again those situations personally could have sparked a complete free for all among the supporters which would have been 10 times more serious than what occurred on the pitch.

The GAA should bring a rule, or some club should table a motion for the next convention that mentors etc etc are not allowed over the line under any circumstances, only medical personnel have that authority. See how that works.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Do you think refs should receive sterner punishment for disrespect?after all,there were loads of witnesses to duffys one finger salute?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: glens abu on October 31, 2013, 10:25:35 AM
Well I see Crossen has it this morning in IN its a straight fight between Madden and Adams v The Baker boys.He has to be right sometime so hope its now as I have always felt we need a young Antrim team to take us forward and think Madden and Adams should be given a chance.Saffron through and through.The Baker for me has had his day,a good couple of years then went downhill but the big minus for me would be the inclusion of Paddy a man who huffs and puffs if things not going his way.Could be a recipe for disaster if Father and son got job.
I think baker was very much a 1trick pony.antrims run to an ulster final owed a lot to his tactic of playing terry o,neill as a sweeper-playmaker.this role suited terry down to the ground and he played it perfectly(I think he picked up at least 1 man of match award).after this everybody had worked out how Antrim would set up and it never changed.madden and Adams would have the guile to notice this and plan accordingly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Do you think refs should receive sterner punishment for disrespect?after all,there were loads of witnesses to duffys one finger salute?

This is a childish answer.

Refs giving spectators the finger is not a widespread issue in Antrim GAA and not the determining reason why we lose players to other sports. Neither is underage suspension. Cynical challenges, off-the-ball assault/mass brawls, bad coaching and bad administration is. Parents or whoever shouting abuse from the sidelines at the referee/underage players is also.

At no stage would I say that a ref flipping the bird is helpful either. But accounting for the frequency of such incidents and the actual harm that it did to the recipients (obviously they were acting in a gentlemanly manner throughout) I wouldn't make it a priority if I was in charge. I wish that I could say the same for what passes as 'physicality' for a lot of teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thecracken on October 31, 2013, 04:30:31 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Do you think refs should receive sterner punishment for disrespect?after all,there were loads of witnesses to duffys one finger salute?

I must echoe the sentiments of stibhan, I was there didn't see the incident, cant comment on it but can comment as previous on the sustained abuse from certain sections for all of the game, which again I thought was excellent given the conditions. You do really seem to have it in for the referee, your continual focus on the supposed incident, poor taste it may be and ignore the behaviour of what I can only assume are colleagues, club mates of yours for well over 70 minutes of football?? What have you to say on that, and possibly posters may engage on the overall platform. Was it you that the referee gave it to allegedly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 31, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
Ok, so Adams has managed a mediocre St. John's team to mediocrity.

What about Madden? I remember reading the Derry thread where people were saying he disappointed them at the Loup? Where else has he been?

Think on the management front, we have nothing to lose and all to gain with the fresh new approach of madden and Adams. Two young coaches with county playing experience along with experience at county coaching level. Add to this the commitment and passion for the jersey you can't get from an outsider and surely it can only be a positive. Hope they get the chance as no doubt it will happen at some stage so why not now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Do you think refs should receive sterner punishment for disrespect?after all,there were loads of witnesses to duffys one finger salute?

Seriously? Maybe if he flipped it into your anus I'd be asking for some sort of ban but, come on???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2013, 07:48:12 PM
If you are asking for Garrett to be punished then the replay should be played behind closed doors. Talking to some people who were at the game said the abuse aimed at him was at another level. Serious amount of suspensions being dished for an incident were supposedly 'nothing' happened. Either we are that used to aggro that some people are immune to it or just dont see anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 31, 2013, 08:39:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Do you think refs should receive sterner punishment for disrespect?after all,there were loads of witnesses to duffys one finger salute?

Seriously? Maybe if he flipped it into your anus I'd be asking for some sort of ban but, come on???

Lol, flipping fingers into ones anus
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on October 31, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: stibhan on October 31, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 30, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
no wonder so many young lads turn their back on the game.

Aye, these young lads are definitely turning their backs on the game because they get suspended for fighting. Strange then that nothing has changed with regards these incidents in years of underage Antrim Football. I wasn't at the game between LD and St Johns so I'll have to take everyone on here's word for it but I sincerely hope that these suspensions, even if some of them are being called harsh, are indicative of sterner punishments for both disrespect to referees and off the ball incidents in the county across the board.

Far more people are put off Antrim football by a subculture of thuggery than this supposed mass pandemic of harsh underage suspensions.
Do you think refs should receive sterner punishment for disrespect?after all,there were loads of witnesses to duffys one finger salute?

Seriously? Maybe if he flipped it into your anus I'd be asking for some sort of ban but, come on???
Think there's more chance of him flipping it into your anus to be honest(refs stick together and all that)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 31, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
Would take the Baker back with open arms. Charismatic and a leader.

Too many of these off the ball incidents--these clubs couldnt hit you hard an fair, a problem that has led to our County teams being soft.

Time to grow up and call a spade a spade--this 'there was 2 of them at it' lies sickens me.

A ref giving a finger to neanderthals--who gives a f**k. What about dickheads who dig kids, breakin jaws and legs from behind?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 31, 2013, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 31, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
Would take the Baker back with open arms. Charismatic and a leader.

Too many of these off the ball incidents--these clubs couldnt hit you hard an fair, a problem that has led to our County teams being soft.

Time to grow up and call a spade a spade--this 'there was 2 of them at it' lies sickens me.

A ref giving a finger to neanderthals--who gives a f**k. What about d**kheads who dig kids, breakin jaws and legs from behind?

What about the boy that manages the Ladies teams is he not going for the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 01, 2013, 05:56:16 AM
Davy cherry?. He'd get my vote . Took the ladies to their first all Ireland win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2013, 06:21:23 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 01, 2013, 05:56:16 AM
Davy cherry?. He'd get my vote . Took the ladies to their first all Ireland win

Aye I'll mention that to him today at Down Royal lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 01, 2013, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: thecracken on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
I was at the game and have watched this site all week about the incidents. the fighting yes I have definitely seen worse at games in the past, but be realistic I witnessed lads punching one another, mentors(Teachers) striking lads, lads getting punched and retaliating (as you would do). Fundamentally though why did the mentors run in to the first instance, the old excuse is going in to break it up, FFS when has that ever worked, and to often is used as an excuse to have a go. IMO if they had stayed out the situation would have quickly defused itself and we could have had and end to the game, which was extremely entertaining. What I will also say, I moved 3 times during the game to get away from groups of people hurling serious and foul abuse at the referee mainly, but also at the opposition, and again those situations personally could have sparked a complete free for all among the supporters which would have been 10 times more serious than what occurred on the pitch.

The GAA should bring a rule, or some club should table a motion for the next convention that mentors etc etc are not allowed over the line under any circumstances, only medical personnel have that authority. See how that works.
Good to hear from somebody who was actually at the game and not somebody who is spouting rubbish for the sake of it.as far as the fighting,you said you have seen much worse-I definitely agree.mentors and subs running in to break it up-definitely agree that this helps nothing and only fans the flames.do you feel Duffy made the right decision abandoning that game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on November 02, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
So Baker gets the gig!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2013, 08:24:08 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on November 02, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
So Baker gets the gig!

Heard that straight from one of the sons yesterday at Down Royal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thecracken on November 02, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 01, 2013, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: thecracken on October 31, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
I was at the game and have watched this site all week about the incidents. the fighting yes I have definitely seen worse at games in the past, but be realistic I witnessed lads punching one another, mentors(Teachers) striking lads, lads getting punched and retaliating (as you would do). Fundamentally though why did the mentors run in to the first instance, the old excuse is going in to break it up, FFS when has that ever worked, and to often is used as an excuse to have a go. IMO if they had stayed out the situation would have quickly defused itself and we could have had and end to the game, which was extremely entertaining. What I will also say, I moved 3 times during the game to get away from groups of people hurling serious and foul abuse at the referee mainly, but also at the opposition, and again those situations personally could have sparked a complete free for all among the supporters which would have been 10 times more serious than what occurred on the pitch.

The GAA should bring a rule, or some club should table a motion for the next convention that mentors etc etc are not allowed over the line under any circumstances, only medical personnel have that authority. See how that works.
Good to hear from somebody who was actually at the game and not somebody who is spouting rubbish for the sake of it.as far as the fighting,you said you have seen much worse-I definitely agree.mentors and subs running in to break it up-definitely agree that this helps nothing and only fans the flames.do you feel Duffy made the right decision abandoning that game?

I can honestly say at the time I was bewildered, it caught everyone by surprise. In saying that now with the suspensions coming from his report and with hindsight, I ask myself the individuals that where suspended, was anyone named or suspended that shouldn't have been? If not and everyone is guilty under rule then we had if my info is correct 7+ lads, don't know what the ratio is club to club, then what he is guilty of is applying the rule book thoroughly and he would be the first in all my years playing and spectating at games. Usually the Ref gets two or three to satisfy and plays away! Not defending him however, if I had taken the abuse for that length of time he did, and had the rule book at my disposal then, I may have done the same to be honest. No matter how good or bad a ref is that was scandalous, surely you have to agree with there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 02, 2013, 10:09:03 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on November 02, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
So Baker gets the gig!

Roy Keane as no 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 02, 2013, 11:01:35 AM
Disappointed that the CB didn't go for the fresh young Antrim men Madden and Adams but wish Baker well,just hope he brings a good team with him and gets the players he lost last time around back on board.Think it will be hard for him to get that motivating factor he had in his first couple of years but hope I am proved wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on November 02, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
Is it confirmed Baker is the new manager and if so is Paddy going to be involved? Whilst I would wish both the best of luck it would be a massive blow to our club if Paddy decides to quit playing. Baker got Antrim out of Division 4 before so i'd have no doubt he could so it again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 02, 2013, 12:51:00 PM
Best of luck to him, but why do you think he has come back ? The only way is up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thecracken on November 03, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
JFTJ I highlighted this in previous posts, there is no excuse to justify the scenes yesterday at the final whistle is there? For the second time in a week the crowd and the abuse have substantially contributed to dragging this competition into the gutter, I am a massive fan of the U21 championship is great football, now within the last two years supporters have managed to highlight the sheer ineptitude of our county officials in dealing with rouge elements within certain clubs, both sides are fully responsible for what occurred yesterday at the final whistle. You did focus on the referee from last weeks incidents, talking with gaels before the game yesterday Duffy reported 9 Players, 2 mentors and 2 senior club official's for abuse in the crowd (all dealt with by CCC), I personally think it was excessive no doubt about that, but as I stated in previous posts was anyone reported not guilty and penalised incorrectly? Then to the rule book he was fully justified (OTT) granted imo, then both clubs come back out the next week and finish off properly what they didn't get to do last week. These scenes more at home in Windsor or Solitude, not for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 03, 2013, 06:55:49 PM
Hard luck to St Galls, but not that surprising, they seem to have come back to the pack somewhat in Antrim and a decent team in Ulster was probably gonna be too much. They haven't been racking up the big scores of previous years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 03, 2013, 07:10:21 PM
Quote from: thecracken on November 03, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
JFTJ I highlighted this in previous posts, there is no excuse to justify the scenes yesterday at the final whistle is there? For the second time in a week the crowd and the abuse have substantially contributed to dragging this competition into the gutter, I am a massive fan of the U21 championship is great football, now within the last two years supporters have managed to highlight the sheer ineptitude of our county officials in dealing with rouge elements within certain clubs, both sides are fully responsible for what occurred yesterday at the final whistle. You did focus on the referee from last weeks incidents, talking with gaels before the game yesterday Duffy reported 9 Players, 2 mentors and 2 senior club official's for abuse in the crowd (all dealt with by CCC), I personally think it was excessive no doubt about that, but as I stated in previous posts was anyone reported not guilty and penalised incorrectly? Then to the rule book he was fully justified (OTT) granted imo, then both clubs come back out the next week and finish off properly what they didn't get to do last week. These scenes more at home in Windsor or Solitude, not for me.
Quote from: thecracken on November 03, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
JFTJ I highlighted this in previous posts, there is no excuse to justify the scenes yesterday at the final whistle is there? For the second time in a week the crowd and the abuse have substantially contributed to dragging this competition into the gutter, I am a massive fan of the U21 championship is great football, now within the last two years supporters have managed to highlight the sheer ineptitude of our county officials in dealing with rouge elements within certain clubs, both sides are fully responsible for what occurred yesterday at the final whistle. You did focus on the referee from last weeks incidents, talking with gaels before the game yesterday Duffy reported 9 Players, 2 mentors and 2 senior club official's for abuse in the crowd (all dealt with by CCC), I personally think it was excessive no doubt about that, but as I stated in previous posts was anyone reported not guilty and penalised incorrectly? Then to the rule book he was fully justified (OTT) granted imo, then both clubs come back out the next week and finish off properly what they didn't get to do last week. These scenes more at home in Windsor or Solitude, not for me.
yesterdays scenes can be blamed on one person and 1 person alone,I think u know who we are talking about.that type of outburst does remind me of Windsor and I want no part of it.i do think it was a moment of madness because i do think he is a good kid and he will learn.i would like to wish ld all the best in the tourney and hope they get back the players who were wrongfully suspended.as for the game,another very absorbing contest with st.johns on top the 1st half andLd on top the2nd.we missed chances and the lamhs hung in and then took over,fair play to them-a very good side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 03, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: thecracken on November 03, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
JFTJ I highlighted this in previous posts, there is no excuse to justify the scenes yesterday at the final whistle is there? For the second time in a week the crowd and the abuse have substantially contributed to dragging this competition into the gutter, I am a massive fan of the U21 championship is great football, now within the last two years supporters have managed to highlight the sheer ineptitude of our county officials in dealing with rouge elements within certain clubs, both sides are fully responsible for what occurred yesterday at the final whistle. You did focus on the referee from last weeks incidents, talking with gaels before the game yesterday Duffy reported 9 Players, 2 mentors and 2 senior club official's for abuse in the crowd (all dealt with by CCC), I personally think it was excessive no doubt about that, but as I stated in previous posts was anyone reported not guilty and penalised incorrectly? Then to the rule book he was fully justified (OTT) granted imo, then both clubs come back out the next week and finish off properly what they didn't get to do last week. These scenes more at home in Windsor or Solitude, not for me.
Yes he reported a 17 year old who was wearing no.17.who was not near a fight and furthermore wore a track suit top covering his no.he reported a man and identified him as an abuser but couldn't remember what side of the pitch he was on etc etc and the list goes on..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2013, 11:49:05 AM
So Baker is back then. Not sure what to make of that appointment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
Aye baker is back be interesting to see who is with him, would have preferred the joint ticket of madden & adams as heard they had planned to put in place proper structures to help with dev squads, minors, u21s & up to senior. we will know more after tonights meeting.

as for the u21 game on sat, what an absolute disgrace!!
fighting on & off the pitch. both clubs had a week to sort out the mess from the 1st game. they shudve both been thrown out of comp after what happen last week, now lamhs should be thrown out of this years & both banned from next years champ. i would even go further as to close both their grounds for a period as only such severe action will bring it home to everyone involved in both clubs that this behaviour wont be tolerated anywhere within the gaa!

if this had been 2 different clubs they wudnt have got the second chance!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 02:36:12 PM
I'm a bit surprised Karl Stewart didn't get more game time in galls match yday especially when by all accounts the forwards were struggling with their shooting mr2. Was he carrying an injury?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 02:36:12 PM
I'm a bit surprised Karl Stewart didn't get more game time in galls match yday especially when by all accounts the forwards were struggling with their shooting mr2. Was he carrying an injury?

Well as I always say if you're fit enough for the bench your are fit enough to play. Though in fairness to Karl he'd been carrying injuries for a while, Karls tough as old boots and I'd rather have him on from the start, emptying the tank and come off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 04, 2013, 03:27:13 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
Aye baker is back be interesting to see who is with him, would have preferred the joint ticket of madden & adams as heard they had planned to put in place proper structures to help with dev squads, minors, u21s & up to senior. we will know more after tonights meeting.

as for the u21 game on sat, what an absolute disgrace!!
fighting on & off the pitch. both clubs had a week to sort out the mess from the 1st game. they shudve both been thrown out of comp after what happen last week, now lamhs should be thrown out of this years & both banned from next years champ. i would even go further as to close both their grounds for a period as only such severe action will bring it home to everyone involved in both clubs that this behaviour wont be tolerated anywhere within the gaa!



if this had been 2 different clubs they wudnt have got the second chance!!

Heard it is Paddy and that would worry me as he is a man who has walked out on his own county twice and can be more bother than he is worth,but only time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
Aye baker is back be interesting to see who is with him, would have preferred the joint ticket of madden & adams as heard they had planned to put in place proper structures to help with dev squads, minors, u21s & up to senior. we will know more after tonights meeting.

as for the u21 game on sat, what an absolute disgrace!!
fighting on & off the pitch. both clubs had a week to sort out the mess from the 1st game. they shudve both been thrown out of comp after what happen last week, now lamhs should be thrown out of this years & both banned from next years champ. i would even go further as to close both their grounds for a period as only such severe action will bring it home to everyone involved in both clubs that this behaviour wont be tolerated anywhere within the gaa!

if this had been 2 different clubs they wudnt have got the second chance!!
Complete and utter shite.2 yellow cards and not a dirty game at all.1st match abandoned due to the ineptitude of the ref.i take it u weren't at the game again.meanwhile in newry,2 successful clubs are knocking lumps out of each other and serving up a treat of hard football(ref let the game flow).if it was Antrim the game probably would have finished 11v11.ban 2 clubs for 2 great games of football with about 4 punches thrown in 1st game and none in the 2nd.youd be better going to watch basketball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 02:36:12 PM
I'm a bit surprised Karl Stewart didn't get more game time in galls match yday especially when by all accounts the forwards were struggling with their shooting mr2. Was he carrying an injury?

Well as I always say if you're fit enough for the bench your are fit enough to play. Though in fairness to Karl he'd been carrying injuries for a while, Karls tough as old boots and I'd rather have him on from the start, emptying the tank and come off.
Think Karl is a serious footballer who I'd have on my Antrim team every day of the week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
"Nothing happened".
Let me guess u weren't at the game either?maybe you'd be better concentrating on your own clubs woes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
lol so its ok for a great game of football to be followed by a riot or as long as there is only a few punches thrown its ok lol wise up!!

i wasnt there to witness, nor was i born until after world war II but i still have an opinion on it lol

get off ur high horse with ur whiter than white crap!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 04, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
"Nothing happened".
Let me guess u weren't at the game either?maybe you'd be better concentrating on your own clubs woes.
:-*
This Johnnies team are getting some rep. Even at minor, they disgraced themselves after losing at the St. Pauls tournament - which followed into the carpark.

Somebody would want to have a word.

Was this last year after the Glen game??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2013, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 04, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
"Nothing happened".
Let me guess u weren't at the game either?maybe you'd be better concentrating on your own clubs woes.
:-*
This Johnnies team are getting some rep. Even at minor, they disgraced themselves after losing at the St. Pauls tournament - which followed into the carpark.

Somebody would want to have a word.

Was this last year after the Glen game??

Year before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
lol so its ok for a great game of football to be followed by a riot or as long as there is only a few punches thrown its ok lol wise up!!

i wasnt there to witness, nor was i born until after world war II but i still have an opinion on it lol

get off ur high horse with ur whiter than white crap!!
You can have an opinion on world warII because you can back it up with facts.so far you,ve come on here and spouted your drivel about riots and called for 2teams to be banned.2games that u weren't even at.total punches thrown in said riot 0,total people injured in riot 0 .oh hold on,I think some girl broke her false nail.A riot u say,get a life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
"Nothing happened".
Let me guess u weren't at the game either?maybe you'd be better concentrating on your own clubs woes.
:-*
This Johnnies team are getting some rep. Even at minor, they disgraced themselves after losing at the St. Pauls tournament - which followed into the carpark.

Somebody would want to have a word.
Tensions can be higher when you,re playing in the big games!is your DreamTeam full minors next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 04:31:44 PM
What? Tensions can be higher in big games so yis try to beat the fcuk outta one another on the pitch and in the car park?
Good one.
You seem obsessed with our club.as I said before it might help to concentrate on your own clubs bust ups.all sorts of rumours about splits,divisions and fights between your members but I don't come on here spouting off about them because to me that's all they are-rumours.i don't know the ins and outs of these fights and don't want to know.maybe you should try that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 05:02:09 PM
Anybody have any thoughts on who will win ulster club this year.i think the winners of cross v kill coo will benefit from having the extra top level game behind them.this kilcoo team don't seem to know when they're beat so I,l go for them to upset cross and go on to win their 1st ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Aye change the subject and it will go away!

I was talking to someone who was present and neutral and they told me whole story, am sure we will c all in paper tomorro. Both teams to blame they said!

I'm sure the powers that be will deal with accordingly!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
You don't like what you are reading, you mean...
No, really it's riveting......yawn.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Aye change the subject and it will go away!

I was talking to someone who was present and neutral and they told me whole story, am sure we will c all in paper tomorro. Both teams to blame they said!

I'm sure the powers that be will deal with accordingly!
A.either your friend is a liar or B he is an imaginary friend.Probably B judging by your   pathetic attempts at attacking both clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Aye change the subject and it will go away!

I was talking to someone who was present and neutral and they told me whole story, am sure we will c all in paper tomorro. Both teams to blame they said!

I'm sure the powers that be will deal with accordingly!
Any idea when the economic downturn is going to subside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Aye change the subject and it will go away!

I was talking to someone who was present and neutral and they told me whole story, am sure we will c all in paper tomorro. Both teams to blame they said!

I'm sure the powers that be will deal with accordingly!
Any idea when the economic downturn is going to subside?
What's the price of bacon in culchieland?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 04, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Aye change the subject and it will go away!

I was talking to someone who was present and neutral and they told me whole story, am sure we will c all in paper tomorro. Both teams to blame they said!

I'm sure the powers that be will deal with accordingly!
Any idea when the economic downturn is going to subside?
What's the price of bacon in culchieland?
Since you know the whole story ,give it an airing here.start with who was struck in the RIOT .bet you can't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 04, 2013, 08:18:49 PM
It doesn't matter what anyone says on here, it's what is reported by ref, linesmen, umpires etc that matters!

As I said it will be dealt with in due course!

Sure if nothing happened then no one has to worry about getting banned!

Some gr8 comebacks by the way lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 04, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
There has already been numerous threads about how inept the "powers that be"are.I totally accept the cb to handle it like the drawn game.hand out suspensions like they,re confetti.then it,l go to ulster council who will laugh their balls off and overturn half of them.i believe duffys report of the 1st game has been entered at Cannes next year for best short comedy.only in Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 05, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
Aye jftj wonder how u felt when the old Athenian Draco sat on the CCC when Rasharkin were most severly sanctioned for the action of players following their u-21 game v Lamh dearg a couple of years back. Seems little joe did not believe that the referee's report is most sacrosanct when he looked at the goings on in that abandoned game, and he will most likely have the same sympathetic hat on when he reviews the goings on down at Glenavy. Now if those really bad boys from cargin get involved in anything similar sure u will see old Draco back with the little man and the CCC. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
Looks like Baker is back in for another go. Set to be confirmed this evening. Interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 05, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
Looks like Baker is back in for another go. Set to be confirmed this evening. Interesting to say the least.

Like Mourinho...The Special One returns!

Paddy supposedly coming too (any chance he would play?!?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 05, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
i suppose the local paper got it wrong too  ::)

maybe they werent there either lol

aye heard its baker & paddy & a fella for strength & conditioning.

hope he gets the support of the players.

country bumpkin - that was some cryptic message for ur 1st post!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 05, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Having a look at the Irish news about the selection panel for picking our new manager.jesus wept.not 1 person who played inter county or ever managed a football team.how are they qualified to make this decision.Surely a better process would have been to select 7 knowledgable men along with county chairmen.i know Derry did this and surely most counties with a titter of wit do the same.People like Whitey(Rossa)mccrudden(LD)darragh(st.johns)o,neill(cargin)mckeever(pgnone)Sean mc gourty(galls).just off the top of my head .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 05, 2013, 09:45:51 PM
Heard not too many hands raised to endorse Baker tonight,he will need to hit the ground running to build up a bit of belief.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 05, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
Think Baker will only have to have his squad dawdling on the ground to be a huge improvement on what went before. :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on November 06, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 05, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Having a look at the Irish news about the selection panel for picking our new manager.jesus wept.not 1 person who played inter county or ever managed a football team.how are they qualified to make this decision.Surely a better process would have been to select 7 knowledgable men along with county chairmen.i know Derry did this and surely most counties with a titter of wit do the same.People like Whitey(Rossa)mccrudden(LD)darragh(st.johns)o,neill(cargin)mckeever(pgnone)Sean mc gourty(galls).just off the top of my head .

I wouldn't have a St Johns or Portglenone person anywhere near it if their clubmates are going for it.

In any case the county made the right decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 06, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
Anyone know what capacity that P Bradley would be coming into the set up under?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on November 06, 2013, 02:33:22 PM
Sure there was a St John's clubman on the selection committee..oh wait, maybe not!

The man's been chosen anyway so good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 06, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: stibhan on November 06, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 05, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Having a look at the Irish news about the selection panel for picking our new manager.jesus wept.not 1 person who played inter county or ever managed a football team.how are they qualified to make this decision.Surely a better process would have been to select 7 knowledgable men along with county chairmen.i know Derry did this and surely most counties with a titter of wit do the same.People like Whitey(Rossa)mccrudden(LD)darragh(st.johns)o,neill(cargin)mckeever(pgnone)Sean mc gourty(galls).just off the top of my head .

I wouldn't have a St Johns or Portglenone person anywhere near it if their clubmates are going for it.

In any case the county made the right decision.
Ok then a selection of football men who have played county football and also managed at senior level.Surely they would know a lot more than the men who made the decision.its like asking Jimmy Saville to be a judge for "humanitarian of the year".Baker is certainly not the worst appointment in the world and I wish him the best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Matthew 5:9 on November 07, 2013, 05:50:30 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=204204

Hope Antrim CCC didn't C this!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2013, 07:36:15 PM
Seen it today. Thought it was funny as. Which one plays for the Johnnies?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2013, 08:41:30 PM
Lamh Dearg are to play Rossa in the next round of the under-21 championship to-morrow. Paddy Power is betting on the game, at evens your pick, but they go 1/8 its not finished, and 1/20 that Little Joe will be away on holiday when the referee's report arrives. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on November 08, 2013, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 06, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: stibhan on November 06, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 05, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Having a look at the Irish news about the selection panel for picking our new manager.jesus wept.not 1 person who played inter county or ever managed a football team.how are they qualified to make this decision.Surely a better process would have been to select 7 knowledgable men along with county chairmen.i know Derry did this and surely most counties with a titter of wit do the same.People like Whitey(Rossa)mccrudden(LD)darragh(st.johns)o,neill(cargin)mckeever(pgnone)Sean mc gourty(galls).just off the top of my head .

I wouldn't have a St Johns or Portglenone person anywhere near it if their clubmates are going for it.

In any case the county made the right decision.
Ok then a selection of football men who have played county football and also managed at senior level.Surely they would know a lot more than the men who made the decision.its like asking Jimmy Saville to be a judge for "humanitarian of the year".Baker is certainly not the worst appointment in the world and I wish him the best

If you ask me, should we need to appoint a manager again in the near future (let's hope not, obviously), the County Board should appoint an outside panel of experts to decide who to go for. Not only would that widen the scope of the pool they would have to pick from, it would also mean that any bias or whatever other allegations would be taken out of it. It might also address some of your humanitarian concerns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 09, 2013, 03:30:30 AM
Quote from: stibhan on November 08, 2013, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 06, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: stibhan on November 06, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 05, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Having a look at the Irish news about the selection panel for picking our new manager.jesus wept.not 1 person who played inter county or ever managed a football team.how are they qualified to make this decision.Surely a better process would have been to select 7 knowledgable men along with county chairmen.i know Derry did this and surely most counties with a titter of wit do the same.People like Whitey(Rossa)mccrudden(LD)darragh(st.johns)o,neill(cargin)mckeever(pgnone)Sean mc gourty(galls).just off the top of my head .

I wouldn't have a St Johns or Portglenone person anywhere near it if their clubmates are going for it.

In any case the county made the right decision.
Ok then a selection of football men who have played county football and also managed at senior level.Surely they would know a lot more than the men who made the decision.its like asking Jimmy Saville to be a judge for "humanitarian of the year".Baker is certainly not the worst appointment in the world and I wish him the best

If you ask me, should we need to appoint a manager again in the near future (let's hope not, obviously), the County Board should appoint an outside panel of experts to decide who to go for. Not only would that widen the scope of the pool they would have to pick from, it would also mean that any bias or whatever other allegations would be taken out of it. It might also address some of your humanitarian concerns.
Could work also.certainly a lot better than the aforementioned process.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 12, 2013, 11:51:32 AM
First time poster on the boards (God help me!) was just wondering what we could do to improve our leagues in Antrim, would it be benificial in doing away with division four? looking at the leagues as they are you could have a 12 team div one and two and that would leave a 13 team division 3. so by my understanding the leagues as per league positions last year would be

Div 1
Cargin
Lamh Dhearg
St Galls
St Johns
Creggan
St Pauls
Rossa
Aldergrove
Moneyglass
St Bridgets
Ahoghill
Rasharkin

Div 2
Ballymena
Portglenone
St Teresas
Glenavy
Gort Na Mona
Aghagallon
O'Donnells
Glenravel
Tir Na Nog
Davitts

Div 3
Dunloy
Ardoyne
Sarsfields
St Endas
Antrim
St Agnes
McDermotts
St Malachys
Eire Og
Lisburn
Pearses
Ballycastle
Mitchells

also something to try and make more meaningful games every team plays eachother once then after that round of fixtures the league splits into a top half (promotion/league winners) group and bottom half (relagation) group.

i know it would have some flaws but think its something that could work and bring more meaningful games! anyone any thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 12, 2013, 12:06:17 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 12, 2013, 11:51:32 AM
First time poster on the boards (God help me!) was just wondering what we could do to improve our leagues in Antrim, would it be benificial in doing away with division four? looking at the leagues as they are you could have a 12 team div one and two and that would leave a 13 team division 3. so by my understanding the leagues as per league positions last year would be

Div 1
Cargin
Lamh Dhearg
St Galls
St Johns
Creggan
St Pauls
Rossa
Aldergrove
Moneyglass
St Bridgets
Ahoghill
Rasharkin

Div 2
Ballymena
Portglenone
St Teresas
Glenavy
Gort Na Mona
Aghagallon
O'Donnells
Glenravel
Tir Na Nog
Davitts

Div 3
Dunloy
Ardoyne
Sarsfields
St Endas
Antrim
St Agnes
McDermotts
St Malachys
Eire Og
Lisburn
Pearses
Ballycastle
Mitchells

also something to try and make more meaningful games every team plays eachother once then after that round of fixtures the league splits into a top half (promotion/league winners) group and bottom half (relagation) group.

i know it would have some flaws but think its something that could work and bring more meaningful games! anyone any thoughts?


would have a lot of support I would say, would create a more competitive second half of the season. think it would carry even more sway with a top 3/bottom 3 promotion/relegation. top 2 up bottom 2 down and 3rd place play 3rd bottom in a playoff. this would almost guarantee at least 15 meaningful games (out of 17) for all teams involved. there are 2 or three clubs that would struggle at the bottom of div 3 which would be a negative but you cant go on with a bit piece div 4 just for this reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 12, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
Int the long run I think this would be a good way to go, it exposes more players to a higher level, and then it is sink or swim. So you would be hoping that this would force clubs to put in more effort and to get moving up the ladder.

However getting teams to agree to it now may be difficult enough as clubs may find it difficult agreeing on where the cut off points should be.

Good suggestion though. I also think that these changes would be a lot easier to implement in the football compared to the hurling. Worth a shot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 12, 2013, 07:34:23 PM
Some difference in standard in that div 3. The likes of Dunloy and sarsfields are massively ahead of pearses, Mitchell's etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 12, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
Think it would also address the championship problem, div 1 senior div 2 intermediate div 3 junior. Also with regards teams getting hammered, this happens in every league at every level, there are always going to be teams who are a mis match, the thing being with regards the split they then get competitive games closer to championship etc. also for example when endas Dunloy SARS play the weaker teams it gives them a chance to blood some younger players. I agree it wouldn't work in hurling though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 12, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
Think it would also address the championship problem, div 1 senior div 2 intermediate div 3 junior. Also with regards teams getting hammered, this happens in every league at every level, there are always going to be teams who are a mis match, the thing being with regards the split they then get competitive games closer to championship etc. also for example when endas Dunloy SARS play the weaker teams it gives them a chance to blood some younger players. I agree it wouldn't work in hurling though.

Play off's were brought in a few years ago during the starred and non starred games, in hurling anyways, not sure it happened for the football teams for some reason.

In principle it's the best thing to do, I've always wanted the leagues to mean something, in other counties the league playoff's are a major deal it seems, I couldn't tell you who wins the league here (in Antrim) or who cares, Cargin usually win it I think....

The leagues should give seeding in championship, would ensure teams focus a bit more during the league and maybe raise the standard leading into the later part of the season.

In Kilkenny they have the league format for the Championship top two go through and the rest battle to stay up with the last match being a relegation playoff!! That would be interesting to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2013, 01:22:21 PM
So you say you are not aware of who wins leagues MIlltown Row............and such confession adds confusion to your long list of threads which served notice on your extensive knowledge of the Saffron affairs.
Surely your latest comment just could not have been delivered in arrogance, in an attempt to belittle :o which would do little justice to a member of such a great club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2013, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2013, 01:22:21 PM
So you say you are not aware of who wins leagues MIlltown Row............and such confession adds confusion to your long list of threads which served notice on your extensive knowledge of the Saffron affairs.
Surely your latest comment just could not have been delivered in arrogance, in an attempt to belittle :o which would do little justice to a member of such a great club.

I'm trying to make the leagues important I've been saying it for years bumpkin, if there was silverware or merit in winning the div 1 league then bring it on, as it is it serves no purpose only in relegation matters. I'd maybe even go a step further and have a Ulster league winners competition between the counties. Again this may encourage teams playing/training hard till the end of the year.

On the other matter you are way to sensitive,  if shoe on other foot I wouldn't give a toss if having a pot at my club for only winning leagues and not winning championships. My knowledge of Saffron affairs is as good as yours I'd imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 13, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Was this not tried before where u were seeded  for cship depending on your league position?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2013, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 13, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Was this not tried before where u were seeded  for cship depending on your league position?

I can't remember if it was, I know they had playoffs for the hurling leagues a few years ago, as I was playing for the seconds when we won div 4 and 3 (we scrapped into the playoff both times and won)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
I have no doubt as to your knowledge of the Saffron scene Milltown, and I take a bow. But I will jog your memory as to the division one league situation over the past few years anyway, 2013 winners as you suggest was Cargin, 2012 winners, Lamh Dearg, and of course everybody remembers St Gall's refusing to accept the trophy in 2011.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2013, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
I have no doubt as to your knowledge of the Saffron scene Milltown, and I take a bow. But I will jog your memory as to the division one league situation over the past few years anyway, 2013 winners as you suggest was Cargin, 2012 winners, Lamh Dearg, and of course everybody remembers St Gall's refusing to accept the trophy in 2011.

I'm sure it sat in our trophy cabinet that year, again it wasn't a major drive for us over the years, yous lost the league badly that year but put us out in the first round of the Championship at Casement, memory is very good. What someone has said already and I agree with is make it worthwhile. Why is it that in other counties in Ulster the league matters?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2013, 01:34:07 PM
It matters to teams at the bottom of division one. Depends on where you are really. Galls and Cargin are quite far ahead of the rest and can remain so while taking it , relatively, easy in the league. Many can't. I don't think you could say the likes of Aldergrove, Moneyglass etc didn't take the league seriously.

There is quite a big disparity in antrim football which you wouldn't get in the tyrones, derrys etc. In Tyrone a lot of teams are on a level and in Derry likewise. In antrim you have about 3 tiers in diivision 1 and only the third one will be going for relegation and the winning one could come from any one of, let's be honest, 3 clubs.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2013, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2013, 01:34:07 PM
It matters to teams at the bottom of division one. Depends on where you are really. Galls and Cargin are quite far ahead of the rest and can remain so while taking it , relatively, easy in the league. Many can't. I don't think you could say the likes of Aldergrove, Moneyglass etc didn't take the league seriously.

There is quite a big disparity in antrim football which you wouldn't get in the tyrones, derrys etc. In Tyrone a lot of teams are on a level and in Derry likewise. In antrim you have about 3 tiers in diivision 1 and only the third one will be going for relegation and the winning one could come from any one of, let's be honest, 3 clubs.

Yes we know that, but why is it important to win the league in these other counties? I refereed a game this year div 1 and the ex county player said blow it up ffs, i said I'll play the 60 mins he went on to say no one gives a fcuk about this game!!

Changing that attitude is wants required, but if there are no incentives or if you are mid table why would you bother?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 14, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Did St Endas retain the Antrim U16 title this year?

Have they much of last years Ulster winning side back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2013, 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2013, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2013, 01:34:07 PM
It matters to teams at the bottom of division one. Depends on where you are really. Galls and Cargin are quite far ahead of the rest and can remain so while taking it , relatively, easy in the league. Many can't. I don't think you could say the likes of Aldergrove, Moneyglass etc didn't take the league seriously.

There is quite a big disparity in antrim football which you wouldn't get in the tyrones, derrys etc. In Tyrone a lot of teams are on a level and in Derry likewise. In antrim you have about 3 tiers in diivision 1 and only the third one will be going for relegation and the winning one could come from any one of, let's be honest, 3 clubs.

Yes we know that, but why is it important to win the league in these other counties? I refereed a game this year div 1 and the ex county player said blow it up ffs, i said I'll play the 60 mins he went on to say no one gives a fcuk about this game!!

Changing that attitude is wants required, but if there are no incentives or if you are mid table why would you bother?

Top 4s and bottom 4s make it more interesting. We have had relegation playoffs for 2nd bottom (maybe even 3rd) but have we ever above?

If we did a top 4 would you boys or cargin care that much more?? I guess maybe the 5th or 6th team might but I'm not sure it'd make a difference for the rest. That would go back to the same point as before though the lower down teams would care more...

A few things worth a crack to shake it up though.

Not sure about st endas walter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 14, 2013, 03:58:45 PM
I think play offs for top and bottom of the league would make things far more interesting, especially if they could be run off in in the weeks prior to championship, good tough games as championship preperation, even if teams werent taking the league that seriously and resting a few players it would mean fringe players who have maybe been showing well in training getting a chance to show what they can do in a meaningful fixture.

also it would mean teams at the bottom arent disadvantaged by the fixture list, for example teams needing points playing 'bigger' teams with nothing to play for while others play teams around them, luck of the draw at the minute but if the league split into a play off teams then face other sides in the same situation. Definately make games more interesting!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
would prefer it linked to seeding for championships, more effort would be put in and thus raise the standards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 14, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 14, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Did St Endas retain the Antrim U16 title this year?

Have they much of last years Ulster winning side back?

Yes they won it but not sure about team make up from last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 14, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: glens abu on November 14, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 14, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Did St Endas retain the Antrim U16 title this year?

Have they much of last years Ulster winning side back?

Yes they won it but not sure about team make up from last year.

Thanks Glens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 14, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 14, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: glens abu on November 14, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 14, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Did St Endas retain the Antrim U16 title this year?

Have they much of last years Ulster winning side back?

Yes they won it but not sure about team make up from last year.
Roughly half of last years starting players are still there this time round

Thanks Glens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 15, 2013, 01:01:38 AM
Enda,s are strong at 16,s 18,s 12,s. I don't know about 14,s.definetely flying at the minute.a trip up to the country leagues has really been good to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 15, 2013, 07:16:58 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 15, 2013, 01:01:38 AM
Enda,s are strong at 16,s 18,s 12,s. I don't know about 14,s.definetely flying at the minute.a trip up to the country leagues has really been good to them.

Why did they leave the city leagues ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: The Worker on November 15, 2013, 07:16:58 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 15, 2013, 01:01:38 AM
Enda,s are strong at 16,s 18,s 12,s. I don't know about 14,s.definetely flying at the minute.a trip up to the country leagues has really been good to them.

Why did they leave the city leagues ?

Their hurlers did it first and the footballers followed them into the South West leagues, suppose its as handy and better games I'd imagine, Belfast teams at that level bar Rossa and the Johnnies is poor enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 15, 2013, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: The Worker on November 15, 2013, 07:16:58 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 15, 2013, 01:01:38 AM
Enda,s are strong at 16,s 18,s 12,s. I don't know about 14,s.definetely flying at the minute.a trip up to the country leagues has really been good to them.

Why did they leave the city leagues ?

Their hurlers did it first and the footballers followed them into the South West leagues, suppose its as handy and better games I'd imagine, Belfast teams at that level bar Rossa and the Johnnies is poor enough

Would the south west leagues be stronger? I thought Creggan/Cargin would be the only sides of any note. Would St Endas catchment area not run into north Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 15, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 15, 2013, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: The Worker on November 15, 2013, 07:16:58 AM
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Enda,s are strong at 16,s 18,s 12,s. I don't know about 14,s.definetely flying at the minute.a trip up to the country leagues has really been good to them.

Why did they leave the city leagues ?

Their hurlers did it first and the footballers followed them into the South West leagues, suppose its as handy and better games I'd imagine, Belfast teams at that level bar Rossa and the Johnnies is poor enough

Would the south west leagues be stronger? I thought Creggan/Cargin would be the only sides of any note. Would St Endas catchment area not run into north Belfast?

one side of Hightown rd is N Belfast other side is S Antrim,catchment area would be N.Belfast OK but a lot now from Mayfield and Hollybrook which is S.Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2013, 11:14:34 AM
The south west leagues are well organised and guaranteed games every week. I think the south antrim leagues weren't so much like that. I remember looking at their minor league table one year towards the end of the year and there were a lot of games hadn't been played at all.

They're not necessarily stronger. Rossa won u14 football I see, St Endas won u16(although I guess they are south west now...) and the minor was won by st johns wasn't it?? Not stronger but just more guaranteed games.( a lot more...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 16, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
St Endas U16 beat coalisland in QF
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 16, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2013, 11:14:34 AM
The south west leagues are well organised and guaranteed games every week. I think the south antrim leagues weren't so much like that. I remember looking at their minor league table one year towards the end of the year and there were a lot of games hadn't been played at all.

I think the twin issues were a). the lack of a regularly organised programme of games & b), the, ahem, thuggery, that usually took place in the S Antrim games that were played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on November 16, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2013, 11:14:34 AM
The south west leagues are well organised and guaranteed games every week. I think the south antrim leagues weren't so much like that. I remember looking at their minor league table one year towards the end of the year and there were a lot of games hadn't been played at all.

I think the twin issues were a). the lack of a regularly organised programme of games & b), the, ahem, thuggery, that usually took place in the S Antrim games that were played.

Plenty of that in all areas of Antrim at juvenile level, not that long ago a referee took a beating from a SW team ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2013, 07:35:06 PM
Well done to St Endas. They deserve a lot of credit for what they are trying to do there, and have an outstanding record at U-16 and minor level in the last few years.

They won all county minor league too a few weeks ago - a small fact that went unnoticed by quite a few. Thats to go with all county U-16 c`ship too, doubling up there from last year. Now they head for a Paul Mc Girr double too. Interesting times in Hightown.

I have a few lads playing at juvenile still and as a result saw them against St Endas a few times this year. Very well coached and organised and totally disciplined too, on the pitch and on the sideline.

Great to see, and thats what we need in this county - another three or four teams to make some kind of proper breakthrough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2013, 08:00:54 PM
See County under-21 final is in Sarsfields on Sunday at 2pm.

I wonder is it worthwhile our boys even turning up? Honestly, Im not joking.

Does Lamh Dherg have any players missing through suspension.

What would the odds be. 1/6 Lamhs? Evens minus 12 points?

Would Father David give us a blessing in Hannahstown before the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 18, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
Totally agree with u bannside in regard to st Endas, very well disciplined and it really shines through. Not just in how they tackle etc but they are drilled in when to shoot and when not too, basic things but they never waste a ball. It all comes from playing as a team.

Ur u21s have a chance of course. they beat fancied Creggan and Cargin sides. They showed great character in both games. They are limited in numbers but they sure make up for it in attitude and determination. Cargin tackled hard but ur boys took it and got on with it.

They cut through Cargin for their goals and this could be vital come Sunday. Will young duffin be available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
We got the breaks at the right times Culchie. Young Michael Clarke hit the post for them and that was the difference. Some player it has to be said.

We are really grateful just to be in the final. We are all about next year though -  thats our feile winning team. This year we struggle just to get 15 on the pitch. The only two subs we have don't even play gaelic football!

Lamhs at their peak, this is their Ulster team, and the match is 50 yards from the scene of that victory. Not sure who decides these things but there you go.

Peter Duffin not on the panel at all this year. Pity though, he can play a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2013, 10:56:00 AM
Casement's will go into the under-21 final with a huge chance despite the curious venue................to play the game in the 'bear pit' certainly does not surprise at all when you consider who makes such call..........little Joe is the man.........but then the Stewartstown road is quite central (in his world).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 19, 2013, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
We got the breaks at the right times Culchie. Young Michael Clarke hit the post for them and that was the difference. Some player it has to be said.

We are really grateful just to be in the final. We are all about next year though -  thats our feile winning team. This year we struggle just to get 15 on the pitch. The only two subs we have don't even play gaelic football!

Lamhs at their peak, this is their Ulster team, and the match is 50 yards from the scene of that victory. Not sure who decides these things but there you go.

Peter Duffin not on the panel at all this year. Pity though, he can play a bit.

Is he at St Pats Maghera??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
BS did Portglenone ever win an u21 of the back of any of the good stinsons teams from the late 90s? I don't recall they did or if they even got to the final?(Genuine question and not a dig!!) Great achievement for them to get there and good to see someone different from the usual suspects in these finals.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
Got to the final once before ITG. Think it was 2001.

Casements were two up against up and coming St Galls, with five minutes left. James Storey was left in the clear thirty yards out with just the keeper to beat. A goal would have sealed it, and a point would probably have too - but we wont ever know that...

Inexplicably the referee blew James up for over carrying. Even the neutrals could not believe what they saw, but this gave St Galls a lifeline they didn't expect - and like the good team they proved to be they got up by a single point.

2001 is still mentioned as the one we were deprived of by officialdom.

Four members of that side are involved in the management of this years U-21`s so they will need no extra motivation on Sunday.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
Ah i have vague recollections of that. Well hopefully you'll do it.  You should have a few still playing from that side I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
Keeper Bryan Mc Cann, Tony Convery, Owen Doc and Gareth Kelly all still in the mix for a while yet. All hands needed round a club as you know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 19, 2013, 04:49:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
Got to the final once before ITG. Think it was 2001.

Casements were two up against up and coming St Galls, with five minutes left. James Storey was left in the clear thirty yards out with just the keeper to beat. A goal would have sealed it, and a point would probably have too - but we wont ever know that...

Inexplicably the referee blew James up for over carrying. Even the neutrals could not believe what they saw, but this gave St Galls a lifeline they didn't expect - and like the good team they proved to be they got up by a single point.

2001 is still mentioned as the one we were deprived of by officialdom.

Four members of that side are involved in the management of this years U-21`s so they will need no extra motivation on Sunday.

If my memory is correct that final went to a replay--1st game ending about 6 all, typical of games this time of year.

Portglenone had a great team and were big favourites. There was more than 1 point in it in the end too. 2 goals in last 5 minutes won it.

Galls then won about 4 u-21s and 5 seniors in a row. Portglenone didn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
You could be right Gold. Think St galls got two goals in the last few minutes to win it as you say. But at the time Storey was through another score would have wrapped it up, and that score would most likely have been a goal. Had that happened it would have left Casements five or six up with about two minutes left. The unbelievable call by the ref gave St Galls an unexpected lifeline and they had the class to sieze the gift horse.

St Galls kicked on and Portglenone didn't - no one can dispute that. They turned out to be a super team in fairness, maybe the best the county ever had.

To put it in perspective, St Galls beat Nemo Rangers on 2006 by more than they beat Portglenone in our county final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
You could be right Gold. Think St galls got two goals in the last few minutes to win it as you say. But at the time Storey was through another score would have wrapped it up, and that score would most likely have been a goal. Had that happened it would have left Casements five or six up with about two minutes left. The unbelievable call by the ref gave St Galls an unexpected lifeline and they had the class to sieze the gift horse.

St Galls kicked on and Portglenone didn't - no one can dispute that. They turned out to be a super team in fairness, maybe the best the county ever had.

To put it in perspective, St Galls beat Nemo Rangers on 2006 by more than they beat Portglenone in our county final.

I know what you are saying but I hate this type of perspective being used, It's like saying if Cargin, Lamhs and say St Pauls who we only beat by a point this year could be contenders later on in a different competition.

We were lucky, well we took the opportunity when we did to win the Championship 12/13 years ago and since then they have worked their socks off to stay at the top, I don't know why the other teams have not put in a serious challenge over the years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2013, 09:31:53 PM
Mr that was a serious crop of players you had. (I guess still have but not at the same level as before)

Cargin,i always thought ,could have challenged you more but no one else on the same planet.

Continuity a big thing too i think as per tyrone's good teams. I thought the best galls players also took the opportunity when at university to really develop themselves and some have sigerson medals as key players.

Portglenone, while doing great to get to county finals, were not quite at the same level as nemo!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 19, 2013, 09:40:41 PM
The blow ins helped too. ;D

people in glass houses......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 19, 2013, 10:50:29 PM
Tell me who a club who hasnt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 20, 2013, 07:36:20 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 19, 2013, 09:40:41 PM
The blow ins helped too. ;D
The blow-ins in this galls teams run helped them a little bit but I,d have to say they'd be well done the pecking order as regards important or "special" players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 19, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
We have had blow ins who have helped us no end. At least I admit it.

Who didn't admit it? We could name the Grahams for starters  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 20, 2013, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2013, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 19, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
We have had blow ins who have helped us no end. At least I admit it.

Who didn't admit it? We could name the Grahams for starters  :-X
You. Instead of saying, "Yes, they did help greatly and without them we would not have been as successful" - you decide to say whatabout.......
Paul, Eamon, Mickey Wing & Joe McCaff all helped towards our last championship victory. I don't get uptight when they are brought up, unlike some.......

I know Paul and Eamon were both Cushendun, even though they're reared McCooeys, Wing was originally Sars, but was Joe McCaff not Rossa since underage although his brother played for the Johnnies??

I'm near certain Joe played minor for Rossa, did he not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 09:11:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2013, 08:59:38 AM
He did but he started at O'Donnells before transferring as a kid. Just wanted to be thorough. ;)

Seamy McKenna played for st Galls as did the Close's I could go on.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2013, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 19, 2013, 10:50:29 PM
Tell me who a club who hasnt

O'Donnels seem to be a club who have suffered greatly from this.

Every club has them. It's fair enough in most cases but in some cases but there are a few that would irk you a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 09:28:43 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2013, 09:21:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 09:11:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2013, 08:59:38 AM
He did but he started at O'Donnells before transferring as a kid. Just wanted to be thorough. ;)

Seamy McKenna played for st Galls as did the Close's I could go on.......
Feel free. It doesn't make your own club's go away.

Again I didn't bring it up and it won't make yours go away either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2013, 09:30:32 AM
At least I admit that without ours we would not have been as successful.

Course, I'd say we wouldn't have won any of the last 11 titles, 2 Ulster titles and the All Ireland without them, it hurts knowing that....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 20, 2013, 11:15:12 PM
Very sad to hear Anto Finnegan has been diagnosed with Motor neurone disease.

Great player in his day. Hope he manages to battle through it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 20, 2013, 11:15:54 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/25027330 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/25027330)

Seen Joost van der Westhuizen at the Scotland v RSA match at weekend. Brutal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 12:02:30 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 20, 2013, 11:15:12 PM
Very sad to hear Anto Finnegan has been diagnosed with Motor neurone disease.

Great player in his day. Hope he manages to battle through it!

7's tournament this Sat at st Pauls. 38 teams involved in an over 35 competition for this. Should be a great day for a great player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2013, 08:41:07 AM
Very sad. Hopefully that tournament gets some money in for the cause. Awful disease that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Yeah very sad indeed about Anto and great effort by lots of Gaels and others to raise money for this cause.I was a bit disappointed the Antrim board could not get around to making Casement available for a big game that was planned.Should be a great day and night on Sat for great cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Yeah very sad indeed about Anto and great effort by lots of Gaels and others to raise money for this cause.I was a bit disappointed the Antrim board could not get around to making Casement available for a big game that was planned.Should be a great day and night on Sat for great cause.

In fairness though all the games will be held on the St Pauls, Rossa and Sarsfields pitches which makes more sense. Casement to long for sevens ;) or 35 year olds maybe (wish i was 35 ffs)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Yeah very sad indeed about Anto and great effort by lots of Gaels and others to raise money for this cause.I was a bit disappointed the Antrim board could not get around to making Casement available for a big game that was planned.Should be a great day and night on Sat for great cause.

In fairness though all the games will be held on the St Pauls, Rossa and Sarsfields pitches which makes more sense. Casement to long for sevens ;) or 35 year olds maybe (wish i was 35 ffs)

Yeah but they had a match organised between Dublin and Tyrone but board couldnt give casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Yeah very sad indeed about Anto and great effort by lots of Gaels and others to raise money for this cause.I was a bit disappointed the Antrim board could not get around to making Casement available for a big game that was planned.Should be a great day and night on Sat for great cause.

In fairness though all the games will be held on the St Pauls, Rossa and Sarsfields pitches which makes more sense. Casement to long for sevens ;) or 35 year olds maybe (wish i was 35 ffs)

Yeah but they had a match organised between Dublin and Tyrone but board couldnt give casement.

Ah didn't realise, insurance ffs, pitch stand and customers H&S all big issues, plus no pub  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Yeah very sad indeed about Anto and great effort by lots of Gaels and others to raise money for this cause.I was a bit disappointed the Antrim board could not get around to making Casement available for a big game that was planned.Should be a great day and night on Sat for great cause.

In fairness though all the games will be held on the St Pauls, Rossa and Sarsfields pitches which makes more sense. Casement to long for sevens ;) or 35 year olds maybe (wish i was 35 ffs)

Yeah but they had a match organised between Dublin and Tyrone but board couldnt give casement.

Ah didn't realise, insurance ffs, pitch stand and customers H&S all big issues, plus no pub  ;)

Yeah insurance the big problem,but always think there has to be a way around these problems,anyhow should be good day on Sat and hope plenty of money raised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 21, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Desperate news, he was a good hurler in his day too, fit as a fiddle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2013, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Desperate news, he was a good hurler in his day too, fit as a fiddle.

Aye could hurl rightly Minder, decent stick man, but with the pull of county football and being in a football club something has to give.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Desperate news, he was a good hurler in his day too, fit as a fiddle.

Ah terrible news,was a good servant to Antrim.Never seen him play hurling but yeah one fit lad unfortunately deceases like this have no respect for anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 21, 2013, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: glens abu on November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Desperate news, he was a good hurler in his day too, fit as a fiddle.

Ah terrible news,was a good servant to Antrim.Never seen him play hurling but yeah one fit lad unfortunately deceases like this have no respect for anything.

I wonder is there any early screening programmes that could perhaps prevent the disease.

With Anto, Joost Van der Westhuizen and Fernando Ricksen is the press recently thats three high profile former sportsmen with the disease.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 22, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
Not at all surprised to hear that the only player suspended from the 'battle on chapel hill' after he under-21 semi has had his suspension removed/lifted to enable him to play in the final.............seems the colour of the shirt and having friends in high places does matter. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2013, 04:57:06 PM
You wont hear any crying from Portglenone about suspensions. At the end of the day you want to test yourselves against the best, and see where you stand.

LD are rightly very hot favourites, but Casements have no fear of this and there is a great buzz around the club. All bonus territory now with nothing to lose. Very few (outside ourselves) saw us getting this far!

Just from a personal view (and I havent heard it mentioned around the club) why cant a final like this be played somewhere half way. Glenavy/Creggan/Cargin/Randalstown/Ahoghill etc are all great venues geographically between the two clubs.

Sarsfields venue will definitely feel much more like an away fixture to Casements than it will to Lamh Dhearg - but thats just my two cents worth....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2013, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2013, 04:57:06 PM
You wont hear any crying from Portglenone about suspensions. At the end of the day you want to test yourselves against the best, and see where you stand.

LD are rightly very hot favourites, but Casements have no fear of this and there is a great buzz around the club. All bonus territory now with nothing to lose. Very few (outside ourselves) saw us getting this far!

Just from a personal view (and I havent heard it mentioned around the club) why cant a final like this be played somewhere half way. Glenavy/Creggan/Cargin/Randalstown/Ahoghill etc are all great venues geographically between the two clubs.

Sarsfields venue will definitely feel much more like an away fixture to Casements than it will to Lamh Dhearg - but thats just my two cents worth....

I thought St Enda's this year ran their championship games well, I was at hurling and football ones and pitch was decent also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 23, 2013, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 22, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
Not at all surprised to hear that the only player suspended from the 'battle on chapel hill' after he under-21 semi has had his suspension removed/lifted to enable him to play in the final.............seems the colour of the shirt and having friends in high places does matter. ;)
HAHA-'the battle on chapel hill" where exactly  0 punches or kicks were thrown.f**k me I,d like to see what you would call a real battle.by the way the ulster council overturned the ridiculous suspensions from the first game.they just laugh their balls off at wee joe and the boys.now that was a WAR-I think I saw 3 punches in that one.Savagery at its worst.on a side note has wee joe ever not got a suspension overturned that went to ulster council(I know we,ve always won ours)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thecracken on November 23, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 23, 2013, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 22, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
Not at all surprised to hear that the only player suspended from the 'battle on chapel hill' after he under-21 semi has had his suspension removed/lifted to enable him to play in the final.............seems the colour of the shirt and having friends in high places does matter. ;)
HAHA-'the battle on chapel hill" where exactly  0 punches or kicks were thrown.f**k me I,d like to see what you would call a real battle.by the way the ulster council overturned the ridiculous suspensions from the first game.they just laugh their balls off at wee joe and the boys.now that was a WAR-I think I saw 3 punches in that one.Savagery at its worst.on a side note has wee joe ever not got a suspension overturned that went to ulster council(I know we,ve always won ours)

You seem to delight in the fact that Ulster Council overturned the decisions! I spoke with an UC coach yesterday who was telling me about what went on, I personally think its disgusting, what your club members said allegedly at the meeting and how lads characters where presented, Ill tell you one thing, if that was done on any other platform it wouldn't be allowed.

I was at the game, I heard the abuse, I moved three times because of it and I witnessed the altercations, which again I have said I have seen a lot worse, however the fact remains that people on the day behaved disgracefully and should hold their hands up and have the B***s to take what's coming. You haven't at any time condemned their behaviour which to be honest is more concerning to me.
It has proved that it is who you know at UC and who can work the system, however clubs need to be aware that a poacher come game keeper role can always bite you in the ass! I am amazed and shocked to hear that a Referee that was present submitted a statement allegedly against the referee on the day, my own opinion on the day was he referred what was a great game, like everyone present I was bewildered by the abandonment, however I cant believe that one referee would challenge another, the lad from UC says that it has shocked even some of the senior UC officials who have viewed it in a very dim light, dirty stroke their imo, that's like one team mate stiffing another. Anyway I don't agree with what has gone on and if that's the future of our games in Antrim then its time I found an alternative sport.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Fully agree with the sentiments as expressed by the cracken.............saw what went on on amongst the spectators post that u-21 semi replay and the fact that the player who provoked those scenes had his suspension rescinded is deplorable.........i
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: exiledjohn on November 23, 2013, 04:44:54 PM
Just a note of point. The U21 semi (which I did not attend) did have trouble apparently in the crowd that is not part of our games. However the delight which is seen from JFTJ is probably more to do with the fact that those suspended were innocent of the crime they were accused. Thus had the powers involved got the correct people there may have been no appeal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2013, 05:25:36 PM
Exiled John u must really be in exile if u believe the workings of the ulster council deal with innocence or guilt rather that the all important 'rule book' ..............facts are u can be as guilty as sin but if it is proven that the 'guilty party' was not punished strictly by the book, within rule then he will be cleared...........u believe that nothing untoward happened in those games we speak of John???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: exiledjohn on November 23, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
My point was that those (or at least some of those) suspended were not guilty in anyway. Thus JFTJ's delight. I did say that there were apparently (as per saying I was not there) scenes which were not welcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on November 24, 2013, 03:04:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Fully agree with the sentiments as expressed by the cracken.............saw what went on on amongst the spectators post that u-21 semi replay and the fact that the player who provoked those scenes had his suspension rescinded is deplorable.........i

Interesting, the ulster council had nothing to do with the suspension. Secondly there is no charge of provocation and more to the point are you saying that you deserve suspensions or beating for over exuberance and celebrating a tense win over two great games. Does Davy Fitz deserve suspensions for his celebrations? If you know nothing say nothin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2013, 04:53:21 AM
I wasnt at Glenavy so tbh I cant comment on what happened there. If  there is no such charge as celebrating in a way that is likely to cause provocation then thats fair enough.

Portglenone are wanting to play your fullest possible team today to see where we stand in our 5 year re-development programme which is in mid -term. Hopefully we get a good clean sporting game which is remembered for the right reasons.

Could be a cracker. Come on da Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 24, 2013, 06:07:40 AM
Quote from: thecracken on November 23, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 23, 2013, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 22, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
Not at all surprised to hear that the only player suspended from the 'battle on chapel hill' after he under-21 semi has had his suspension removed/lifted to enable him to play in the final.............seems the colour of the shirt and having friends in high places does matter. ;)
HAHA-'the battle on chapel hill" where exactly  0 punches or kicks were thrown.f**k me I,d like to see what you would call a real battle.by the way the ulster council overturned the ridiculous suspensions from the first game.they just laugh their balls off at wee joe and the boys.now that was a WAR-I think I saw 3 punches in that one.Savagery at its worst.on a side note has wee joe ever not got a suspension overturned that went to ulster council(I know we,ve always won ours)

You seem to delight in the fact that Ulster Council overturned the decisions! I spoke with an UC coach yesterday who was telling me about what went on, I personally think its disgusting, what your club members said allegedly at the meeting and how lads characters where presented, Ill tell you one thing, if that was done on any other platform it wouldn't be allowed.

I was at the game, I heard the abuse, I moved three times because of it and I witnessed the altercations, which again I have said I have seen a lot worse, however the fact remains that people on the day behaved disgracefully and should hold their hands up and have the B***s to take what's coming. You haven't at any time condemned their behaviour which to be honest is more concerning to me.
It has proved that it is who you know at UC and who can work the system, however clubs need to be aware that a poacher come game keeper role can always bite you in the ass! I am amazed and shocked to hear that a Referee that was present submitted a statement allegedly against the referee on the day, my own opinion on the day was he referred what was a great game, like everyone present I was bewildered by the abandonment, however I cant believe that one referee would challenge another, the lad from UC says that it has shocked even some of the senior UC officials who have viewed it in a very dim light, dirty stroke their imo, that's like one team mate stiffing another. Anyway I don't agree with what has gone on and if that's the future of our games in Antrim then its time I found an alternative sport.
ulster council are there to make sure things are done fairly.You can't just throw suspensions around like confetti for no reason.Thank god somebody can check the powers of our own 'little hitlers' because these people seem to think they can do whatever they want.FACT-the first game us v LD,the referree stated that he heard a johnnies man abusing him then looked over and identified him.when asked what side of the pitch he was on ,he did not know.I kid you not,I am serious here.I know it sounds like a comedy sketch but this really did happen.Now if you were on the ulster council how could you uphold this suspension.There is talent in this county which can be gauged by Rossa and endas winning mcgirr tourney;LD winning ulster minor;Rossa and ourselves winning feile,s but it's getting flushed down the drain by "our men in power".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 24, 2013, 06:16:13 AM
As far as condemning actions ,I was behind goals(club end) so cannot condemn what I didn't see.Unlike the ref who saw and heard everything but just couldn't remember what side it came from(Jesus he should have just flipped a coin)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 24, 2013, 06:35:38 AM
Quote from: reddog on November 24, 2013, 03:04:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Fully agree with the sentiments as expressed by the cracken.............saw what went on on amongst the spectators post that u-21 semi replay and the fact that the player who provoked those scenes had his suspension rescinded is deplorable.........i

Interesting, the ulster council had nothing to do with the suspension. Secondly there is no charge of provocation and more to the point are you saying that you deserve suspensions or beating for over exuberance and celebrating a tense win over two great games. Does Davy Fitz deserve suspensions for his celebrations? If you know nothing say nothin
the over exuberance went a bit far and if Davy fitz had used the words he would never have managed a team again but I do agree with you that it was a spur of the moment thing from a young lad who was relieved to get 'over the line'.Thank god there was enough calm heads in the crowd to make sure it passed off peacefully.I,d like to wish LD all the best in the final and hope they win it;after 2fine games and all the shit they,ve been put through,I think they deserve it.Portglenone will be no easy touch and I think this game will go right to the wire.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2013, 12:35:31 PM
Aye right jftj, we all believe you and are quite content that the sentiments u do express are not in any way coloured by bias........of course that 'nice wee lad' was just in celebratory mode and nothing more..................who do u think u are kidding....was at the game and that 'nice wee lad' provoked what occured in the midst of the assembly which brought little credit to those involved in the unseemly affair(which u didn't see i presume), and fully deserved the suspension. Now the fact that a couple of those who passed the suspensions gave evidence in his favour to ensure he could play in the final speaks volumes on the failings within Antrim and the town/country split and fully underlines the fact that we are going nowhere.
Remember what happened to rasharkin a couple of years back and consider the sanctions passed against (with those pair who gave evidence to support your wrong doings deeply involved) which were obviously contrived in a design to put the st marys men out of existence.
Your wee lamhs have been central to quite a bit of controversy over the recent past but they seemed blessed with a guardian angel within and indeed with the undoubted services of good old houdini.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on November 24, 2013, 12:43:46 PM
The same wee boy country bumpkin whose name you are trying to sully, was charged with striking. Apparently not one witness said he struck. If you watched the game you will see that he was struck several times, deserved or not but once that was thrown out , as apparently the report was inaccurate in many ways, you are proposing he be banned for cheering to the crowd? No such charge exists
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on November 24, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
Ps are you inferring that Lamh dhearg had any blame in the rasharkin incident?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2013, 01:02:27 PM
Not making any inferences reddog just underlining the fact that discipline in Antrim is hugely dependant on the colour of the jersey and this has always been evident. Those bad boys from the country deserve all they get.............and they usually get it right in the neck.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on November 24, 2013, 01:22:53 PM
I think you are right ..but actually think our lad was tarred with wrong brush, he was wrong but some of abush he took from hill was scandalous . He took his beating apologised to the St. John's team. Apparently it was solely aimed at the hill, the case didn't stand up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 24, 2013, 03:45:41 PM
Congrats bannside and all involved with casements u21s!

Hate to say I told u so but goals win games and I knew casements had it a few in their team!

Great team who are all as honest as the day is long and wud give everything for each other!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2013, 05:06:30 PM
The Gerry Cullen Cup for Antrim U21 champions is now officially sitting right the middle of the mantlepiece. With Yellow and Black ribbons on it too.

YEEHAA. Up the Casements.

Meal for squad in the Wild Duck, followed by a happy hour in Pats before back to the social club which will be mental. Feel free to join us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
The mother of all comebacks bannside...............fair play to your lads on a stupendous win, and the Gerry Cullen cup returns to the south west again...............must like the air down here has been on a visit 7 out the last 8 years............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 24, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
I hear the referee concerned in support of the Johnies appeal descibed himself as a "Senior Experienced Referee in Antrim", me thinks he, ll need all that in the coming months, it will be hard to walk into a changing room in the future knowing he could give you one in the back if with his vast experience in "Antrim"! you had a stinker.Real dirty sleeked stroke, don't think the UC officials are the only ones taking a dim view. All the best "T"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 24, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
I hear the referee concerned in support of the Johnies appeal descibed himself as a "Senior Experienced Referee in Antrim", me thinks he, ll need all that in the coming months, it will be hard to walk into a changing room in the future knowing he could give you one in the back if with his vast experience in "Antrim"! you had a stinker.Real dirty sleeked stroke, don't think the UC officials are the only ones taking a dim view. All the best "T"

Was it a Johnnies ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 24, 2013, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 24, 2013, 05:06:30 PM
The Gerry Cullen Cup for Antrim U21 champions is now officially sitting right the middle of the mantlepiece. With Yellow and Black ribbons on it too.

YEEHAA. Up the Casements.

Meal for squad in the Wild Duck, followed by a happy hour in Pats before back to the social club which will be mental. Feel free to join us!

Great win for Portglenone,what a comeback.Young fullback no4 MOM but Duffin on a sub made the difference.Great 2ndhalf to watch as a neutral.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2013, 05:51:13 PM
Lamh Dhearg very gracious in defeat. Game played in a great spirit. Cant believe it we won coming from eight points down - with seven minors on the pitch. Unreal feeling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 24, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
Congrats to my oul mates at Portglenone on winning the U21's (although none of this team were born when I was under 21 !! )

The future is looking good again like at did at the beginning of the 2000's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 24, 2013, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 24, 2013, 12:35:31 PM
Aye right jftj, we all believe you and are quite content that the sentiments u do express are not in any way coloured by bias........of course that 'nice wee lad' was just in celebratory mode and nothing more..................who do u think u are kidding....was at the game and that 'nice wee lad' provoked what occured in the midst of the assembly which brought little credit to those involved in the unseemly affair(which u didn't see i presume), and fully deserved the suspension. Now the fact that a couple of those who passed the suspensions gave evidence in his favour to ensure he could play in the final speaks volumes on the failings within Antrim and the town/country split and fully underlines the fact that we are going nowhere.
Remember what happened to rasharkin a couple of years back and consider the sanctions passed against (with those pair who gave evidence to support your wrong doings deeply involved) which were obviously contrived in a design to put the st marys men out of existence.
Your wee lamhs have been central to quite a bit of controversy over the recent past but they seemed blessed with a guardian angel within and indeed with the undoubted services of good old houdini.
I,m a johnnies man which anybody with half a brain would have worked out.Did you attend 'special school'when you were younger.Just asking!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 24, 2013, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 24, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
I hear the referee concerned in support of the Johnies appeal descibed himself as a "Senior Experienced Referee in Antrim", me thinks he, ll need all that in the coming months, it will be hard to walk into a changing room in the future knowing he could give you one in the back if with his vast experience in "Antrim"! you had a stinker.Real dirty sleeked stroke, don't think the UC officials are the only ones taking a dim view. All the best "T"

Was it a Johnnies ref?

No MR2 it was a Lamhs Ref, very senior ref in our county. Lol feck me, u know what they say about self praise.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2013, 07:59:54 PM
Less of the talk about referees and suspensions etc and lets focus on what is a great win for Portglenone. Fair play and enjoy the celebrations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2013, 08:55:09 PM
you may well have quite a large brain JFTJ but your grammar is quite suspect
:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2013, 10:46:41 PM
BS well done on winning the u21. Great to see a county title at a new club in south west and hopefully your seniors will reap the benefits in the next few years. All too many titles to all too few teams these days but the lamhs have the minors so have one too. Looked like you showed a lot of character and belief too. Is the duffin anything to declan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2013, 03:44:12 AM
Oh what a nite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 25, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
Didn't see new management team at U21 final yesterday,hope I am wrong and missed them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Corkey22 on November 25, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
On the topic of U 21 championship, when was the last time the favourites actually won this competition? The last few were won by the underdogs if I remember correctly, great to have a competitive championship like that running
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:50:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 25, 2013, 03:44:12 AM
Oh what a nite.
Congrats to Portglenone,I predicted it would be close and to come from 8 behind shows a lot of strength.They gave us one hell of a match last year and next year should be even better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on November 25, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
On the topic of U 21 championship, when was the last time the favourites actually won this competition? The last few were won by the underdogs if I remember correctly, great to have a competitive championship like that running
U21 c,ship is a great c-ship often won by the team who is not expected to win it.I have 3 U21,s and lost on my 4th attempt when we were huge favourites.More emphasis should be placed on this especially with the dominance of galls at senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on November 25, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
On the topic of U 21 championship, when was the last time the favourites actually won this competition? The last few were won by the underdogs if I remember correctly, great to have a competitive championship like that running
U21 c,ship is a great c-ship often won by the team who is not expected to win it.I have 3 U21,s and lost on my 4th attempt when we were huge favourites.More emphasis should be placed on this especially with the dominance of galls at senior.

So where did it go wrong jftj? Poor management at senior level in not bringing these lads on? The standard wasn't as good as the previous winners? (us) We also lost a lot of players that never made it on the senior team, we won 5 in a row plus 4 minors in that period.  We still had old hands on that senior team but it blended in well when the youth came, plus a strict manager in Culbert. He was (is) a great trainer and motivator.

I really think we just got lucky to win when the team was so young (though great work went on with those lads early on)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 26, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on November 25, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
On the topic of U 21 championship, when was the last time the favourites actually won this competition? The last few were won by the underdogs if I remember correctly, great to have a competitive championship like that running
U21 c,ship is a great c-ship often won by the team who is not expected to win it.I have 3 U21,s and lost on my 4th attempt when we were huge favourites.More emphasis should be placed on this especially with the dominance of galls at senior.

So where did it go wrong jftj? Poor management at senior level in not bringing these lads on? The standard wasn't as good as the previous winners? (us) We also lost a lot of players that never made it on the senior team, we won 5 in a row plus 4 minors in that period.  We still had old hands on that senior team but it blended in well when the youth came, plus a strict manager in Culbert. He was (is) a great trainer and motivator.

I really think we just got lucky to win when the team was so young (though great work went on with those lads early on)
galls first win was definitely a match where we should have won easily.I do believe that Culbert was a massive factor in your early success.St.pauls were the dominant team in my heyday and they were very lucky to scrape by us twice and yes I do feel our management were not as good as others when it came to the crux.I ended up with 1c,ship and I feel that with a top manager like Culbert or Mctoal I could have had6or 7.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 26, 2013, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 26, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on November 25, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
On the topic of U 21 championship, when was the last time the favourites actually won this competition? The last few were won by the underdogs if I remember correctly, great to have a competitive championship like that running
U21 c,ship is a great c-ship often won by the team who is not expected to win it.I have 3 U21,s and lost on my 4th attempt when we were huge favourites.More emphasis should be placed on this especially with the dominance of galls at senior.

So where did it go wrong jftj? Poor management at senior level in not bringing these lads on? The standard wasn't as good as the previous winners? (us) We also lost a lot of players that never made it on the senior team, we won 5 in a row plus 4 minors in that period.  We still had old hands on that senior team but it blended in well when the youth came, plus a strict manager in Culbert. He was (is) a great trainer and motivator.

I really think we just got lucky to win when the team was so young (though great work went on with those lads early on)
galls first win was definitely a match where we should have won easily.I do believe that Culbert was a massive factor in your early success.St.pauls were the dominant team in my heyday and they were very lucky to scrape by us twice and yes I do feel our management were not as good as others when it came to the crux.I ended up with 1c,ship and I feel that with a top manager like Culbert or Mctoal I could have had6or 7.

Or if you had better footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 26, 2013, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 26, 2013, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 26, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Corkey22 on November 25, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
On the topic of U 21 championship, when was the last time the favourites actually won this competition? The last few were won by the underdogs if I remember correctly, great to have a competitive championship like that running
U21 c,ship is a great c-ship often won by the team who is not expected to win it.I have 3 U21,s and lost on my 4th attempt when we were huge favourites.More emphasis should be placed on this especially with the dominance of galls at senior.
I think we had 6 starting on county team at the time

So where did it go wrong jftj? Poor management at senior level in not bringing these lads on? The standard wasn't as good as the previous winners? (us) We also lost a lot of players that never made it on the senior team, we won 5 in a row plus 4 minors in that period.  We still had old hands on that senior team but it blended in well when the youth came, plus a strict manager in Culbert. He was (is) a great trainer and motivator.

I really think we just got lucky to win when the team was so young (though great work went on with those lads early on)
galls first win was definitely a match where we should have won easily.I do believe that Culbert was a massive factor in your early success.St.pauls were the dominant team in my heyday and they were very lucky to scrape by us twice and yes I do feel our management were not as good as others when it came to the crux.I ended up with 1c,ship and I feel that with a top manager like Culbert or Mctoal I could have had6or 7.

Or if you had better footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 26, 2013, 12:44:06 AM
I think we had 6 or 7 starting on county team at the time.How many had your club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 26, 2013, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 26, 2013, 12:44:06 AM
I think we had 6 or 7 starting on county team at the time.How many had your club?

That's a bit childish. Facts are you had some good footballers. A couple of good players in the half back line. Up front is where games are won and lost. You didn't have enough. You didn't have flair players with a sense of adventure. You were a solid enough team but lacking up front.

That game was v tight yes. But from then on Galls kicked on. Their great young players kicked on and got better and better, to a point where they have been a different league to anything we've seen in Antrim. The players are just a different class to the rest. Cargin have a few class players. Other teams have had the odd class player. Galls just have had more class (better) players than other teams. Im not looking for an argument because there isn't one.

And as for Pauls back in the day they had a few real awful games (finals) where about 6 points were scored. Free taking was the only way scores seemed to come. The standard (well maybe from 1 team only) has improved immeasurably since then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
The overall standard when st pauls were on top was higher and they were a very good team too. Not near as good as st galls but john mcmanus could win them games, joe kennedy wasn't bad either, finnegans etc etc made them a very solid team.

I think a big thing for st galls was how their players were developed by the sigerson and universities too. Look how many of their team made sigerson teams who were good sigerson teams. It was rare you had many, if any, players making sigerson teams an dthey'd about half a team.

Yes they were maybe lucky with circumstance that their first came earlier than it maybe normally would have but they'd have started winning at some point.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
The overall standard when st pauls were on top was higher and they were a very good team too. Not near as good as st galls but john mcmanus could win them games, joe kennedy wasn't bad either, finnegans etc etc made them a very solid team.

I think a big thing for st galls was how their players were developed by the sigerson and universities too. Look how many of their team made sigerson teams who were good sigerson teams. It was rare you had many, if any, players making sigerson teams an dthey'd about half a team.

Yes they were maybe lucky with circumstance that their first came earlier than it maybe normally would have but they'd have started winning at some point.

Yeah the college football  probably worked out well to a certain extent but I firmly believe that the style of play had a major impact. Being fit and quick forwards killed it against teams like St Johns and St Pauls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 26, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
The overall standard when st pauls were on top was higher and they were a very good team too. Not near as good as st galls but john mcmanus could win them games, joe kennedy wasn't bad either, finnegans etc etc made them a very solid team.

I think a big thing for st galls was how their players were developed by the sigerson and universities too. Look how many of their team made sigerson teams who were good sigerson teams. It was rare you had many, if any, players making sigerson teams an dthey'd about half a team.

Yes they were maybe lucky with circumstance that their first came earlier than it maybe normally would have but they'd have started winning at some point.

I disagree I do think standards have improved. Although obviously Galls are only team who have won and have shown they can compete outside the County.
Yeah Pauls were solid but again where was the flair? Players are fitter now too.
The County team back then was poorer too. We have improved (if we can get our best players out) and have done well in comparison in recent years. We struggled to win league games back then (forget championship!).

Agree re Sigerson etc. Also   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Yeah I would agree they were probably more solid than flair but I really do think the standards outside of the top 3 (or maybe 4) have dropped a lot.

I think at the minute we have a lot of guys(about 8-10) who on an individual basis are a lot better than what we had in that era however collectively I think the standard is a lot less than it was.

Once you drop beneath the top 3 or 4 in division 1 the standard is very poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.

Agree 100% jftj that particular man in black of whom you speak is arrogant in the extreme and he would certainly fit in with
those 'pythons'. He was appointed to ref the senior semi final game involving cargin and lamh dhearg and his performance was wholly biased as the stats of the game underline.....fact, 1.cargin were not awarded a single free kick within 70 metres from the l dearg posts for the duration of the game 2. cargin obviously did not record a single score from a free for the duration 3. l dearg were awarded a most dubious penalty, and of their total 1-9 scored only three came from play... I am quite certain that cargin would be delighted if he slammed the door shut on his way out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.

Agree 100% jftj that particular man in black of whom you speak is arrogant in the extreme and he would certainly fit in with
those 'pythons'. He was appointed to ref the senior semi final game involving cargin and lamh dhearg and his performance was wholly biased as the stats of the game underline.....fact, 1.cargin were not awarded a single free kick within 70 metres from the l dearg posts for the duration of the game 2. cargin obviously did not record a single score from a free for the duration 3. l dearg were awarded a most dubious penalty, and of their total 1-9 scored only three came from play... I am quite certain that cargin would be delighted if he slammed the door shut on his way out.

More bullshite, seriously do you think Naomh Gall need the referee to 'help' us win the championship?  We don't give away too many frees either in our games, do it in the opositions half as they can lead to scores (if you're going to foul, do it in their half of the pitch, have you learnt nothing?)

More referee flogging, teams lose games, if you're good enough you'll win, we haven't complained about too many refereeing decisions funny enough ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.

Agree 100% jftj that particular man in black of whom you speak is arrogant in the extreme and he would certainly fit in with
those 'pythons'. He was appointed to ref the senior semi final game involving cargin and lamh dhearg and his performance was wholly biased as the stats of the game underline.....fact, 1.cargin were not awarded a single free kick within 70 metres from the l dearg posts for the duration of the game 2. cargin obviously did not record a single score from a free for the duration 3. l dearg were awarded a most dubious penalty, and of their total 1-9 scored only three came from play... I am quite certain that cargin would be delighted if he slammed the door shut on his way out.

More bullshite, seriously do you think Naomh Gall need the referee to 'help' us win the championship?  We don't give away too many frees either in our games, do it in the opositions half as they can lead to scores (if you're going to foul, do it in their half of the pitch, have you learnt nothing?)

More referee flogging, teams lose games, if you're good enough you'll win, we haven't complained about too many refereeing decisions funny enough ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thecracken on November 26, 2013, 02:38:09 PM
This is unreal lads, st johns and cargin must really have it in for GD, JFTJ as I said before and again I was there and listened to the lads that presented at UC, to stand up and deny that they said and behaved poorly is pure bull, and be honest with yourself they did it, they should take the punishment and move on, you could hear it nomatter where you stood on the day. Your making this all about an individual which is masking the problem as a whole, some individuals in your club believe they can do anything they want without concern and are bringing a bad rep to the club and members that are working hard to establish a positive platform in the club. IMO they have gone too far and I dont see this going away for a while yet, on the referee supporting what went on at UC that night, I believe he will regret this and im sure he didnt expect it to blow up the way it has, I would question his reasons however?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 26, 2013, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Yeah I would agree they were probably more solid than flair but I really do think the standards outside of the top 3 (or maybe 4) have dropped a lot.

I think at the minute we have a lot of guys(about 8-10) who on an individual basis are a lot better than what we had in that era however collectively I think the standard is a lot less than it was.

Once you drop beneath the top 3 or 4 in division 1 the standard is very poor.

I'd tend to disagree with this, there is certainly a gap between the top four and the rest in Division 1 possibly even the Top 3 with St Galls obviously still ahead of the pack however i think this is more to do with these teams progressing at a quicker pace.

Id argue that if the teams ranked 5th to 10th in Division 1 now would beat the Teams ranked the same 10 years ago on the majority of occasions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
Dunno where i mentioned Gall's Milltown...........and my perception of that semi final game and the official is on fact and based on stats............perhaps u could not get a good view of events if you were parked at a goal post.
There are none so blind. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
Dunno where i mentioned Gall's Milltown...........and my perception of that semi final game and the official is on fact and based on stats............perhaps u could not get a good view of events if you were parked at a goal post.
There are none so blind. 8)

Ok why is he biased then? What would he get out of it? Here are some other stats, Lamhs didn't concede frees inside the 70? Is that another stat you could use?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.

Agree 100% jftj that particular man in black of whom you speak is arrogant in the extreme and he would certainly fit in with
those 'pythons'. He was appointed to ref the senior semi final game involving cargin and lamh dhearg and his performance was wholly biased as the stats of the game underline.....fact, 1.cargin were not awarded a single free kick within 70 metres from the l dearg posts for the duration of the game 2. cargin obviously did not record a single score from a free for the duration 3. l dearg were awarded a most dubious penalty, and of their total 1-9 scored only three came from play... I am quite certain that cargin would be delighted if he slammed the door shut on his way out.

More bullshite, seriously do you think Naomh Gall need the referee to 'help' us win the championship?  We don't give away too many frees either in our games, do it in the opositions half as they can lead to scores (if you're going to foul, do it in their half of the pitch, have you learnt nothing?)

More referee flogging, teams lose games, if you're good enough you'll win, we haven't complained about too many refereeing decisions funny enough ;)
So just where do I mention Gall's Milltown?????...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: exiledjohn on November 26, 2013, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: thecracken on November 26, 2013, 02:38:09 PM
This is unreal lads, st johns and cargin must really have it in for GD, JFTJ as I said before and again I was there and listened to the lads that presented at UC, to stand up and deny that they said and behaved poorly is pure bull, and be honest with yourself they did it, they should take the punishment and move on, you could hear it nomatter where you stood on the day. Your making this all about an individual which is masking the problem as a whole, some individuals in your club believe they can do anything they want without concern and are bringing a bad rep to the club and members that are working hard to establish a positive platform in the club. IMO they have gone too far and I dont see this going away for a while yet, on the referee supporting what went on at UC that night, I believe he will regret this and im sure he didnt expect it to blow up the way it has, I would question his reasons however?

You could guarantee those people used the words they were accused of??? Big shout!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
Dunno where i mentioned Gall's Milltown...........and my perception of that semi final game and the official is on fact and based on stats............perhaps u could not get a good view of events if you were parked at a goal post.
There are none so blind. 8)

Ok why is he biased then? What would he get out of it? Here are some other stats, Lamhs didn't concede frees inside the 70? Is that another stat you could use?

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.

Agree 100% jftj that particular man in black of whom you speak is arrogant in the extreme and he would certainly fit in with
those 'pythons'. He was appointed to ref the senior semi final game involving cargin and lamh dhearg and his performance was wholly biased as the stats of the game underline.....fact, 1.cargin were not awarded a single free kick within 70 metres from the l dearg posts for the duration of the game 2. cargin obviously did not record a single score from a free for the duration 3. l dearg were awarded a most dubious penalty, and of their total 1-9 scored only three came from play... I am quite certain that cargin would be delighted if he slammed the door shut on his way out.

More bullshite, seriously do you think Naomh Gall need the referee to 'help' us win the championship?  We don't give away too many frees either in our games, do it in the opositions half as they can lead to scores (if you're going to foul, do it in their half of the pitch, have you learnt nothing?)

More referee flogging, teams lose games, if you're good enough you'll win, we haven't complained about too many refereeing decisions funny enough ;)
So just where do I mention Gall's Milltown?????...........

You didn't, why is he (in your opinion) biased against Cargin in a semi final? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!

NAG1 I agree, yourself included have had a wee dig at certain clubs and vice versa. Some people on here have agenda with certain referees and have opened up accounts for this purpose. I'm just quering the logic of some of the posters in their posts regarding a clubman and a fellow referee, similar to how you'd react if attention thrown at your club.

Very few positive posts lately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!

NAG1 I agree, yourself included have had a wee dig at certain clubs and vice versa. Some people on here have agenda with certain referees and have opened up accounts for this purpose. I'm just quering the logic of some of the posters in their posts regarding a clubman and a fellow referee, similar to how you'd react if attention thrown at your club.

Very few positive posts lately

Yeah I know I have and it is easy to react when it is close to home, my point is that we are all inclined to the negative and this last few pages have shown this quite clearly. But this is not how I want the organisation to go forward and in fact if we persist with this type of behaviour we will turn our kids off from coming into and staying in our clubs and wanting to play for our county teams.

Fed up of the negativity really I guess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!

NAG1 I agree, yourself included have had a wee dig at certain clubs and vice versa. Some people on here have agenda with certain referees and have opened up accounts for this purpose. I'm just quering the logic of some of the posters in their posts regarding a clubman and a fellow referee, similar to how you'd react if attention thrown at your club.

Very few positive posts lately

Yeah I know I have and it is easy to react when it is close to home, my point is that we are all inclined to the negative and this last few pages have shown this quite clearly. But this is not how I want the organisation to go forward and in fact if we persist with this type of behaviour we will turn our kids off from coming into and staying in our clubs and wanting to play for our county teams.

Fed up of the negativity really I guess

Ok 100% agree, will bite my tonuge ;)  and put up some positive stuff, looking forward to hurling with the reserves (kids) next year would like another few games before I hang up the boots from playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think we are all after the same thing NAG1...........but please explain just why only one country/south west club has managed to break the mould and managed to win a single Antrim senior football championship during the last 50 years.................better food, better facilities?
Perhaps Milltown can explain......................
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!

NAG1 I agree, yourself included have had a wee dig at certain clubs and vice versa. Some people on here have agenda with certain referees and have opened up accounts for this purpose. I'm just quering the logic of some of the posters in their posts regarding a clubman and a fellow referee, similar to how you'd react if attention thrown at your club.

Very few positive posts lately

Yeah I know I have and it is easy to react when it is close to home, my point is that we are all inclined to the negative and this last few pages have shown this quite clearly. But this is not how I want the organisation to go forward and in fact if we persist with this type of behaviour we will turn our kids off from coming into and staying in our clubs and wanting to play for our county teams.

Fed up of the negativity really I guess

Ok 100% agree, will bite my tonuge ;)  and put up some positive stuff, looking forward to hurling with the reserves (kids) next year would like another few games before I hang up the boots from playing
Aye right lads we can go forward in positivity but can any of you who have insight into the affairs of the Saffron please explain why no country/south west club other than Cargin have won the senior football championship in over half a century.................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!

NAG1 I agree, yourself included have had a wee dig at certain clubs and vice versa. Some people on here have agenda with certain referees and have opened up accounts for this purpose. I'm just quering the logic of some of the posters in their posts regarding a clubman and a fellow referee, similar to how you'd react if attention thrown at your club.

Very few positive posts lately

Yeah I know I have and it is easy to react when it is close to home, my point is that we are all inclined to the negative and this last few pages have shown this quite clearly. But this is not how I want the organisation to go forward and in fact if we persist with this type of behaviour we will turn our kids off from coming into and staying in our clubs and wanting to play for our county teams.

Fed up of the negativity really I guess

Ok 100% agree, will bite my tonuge ;)  and put up some positive stuff, looking forward to hurling with the reserves (kids) next year would like another few games before I hang up the boots from playing
Aye right lads we can go forward in positivity but can any of you who have insight into the affairs of the Saffron please explain why no country/south west club other than Cargin have won the senior football championship in over half a century.................

Because they don't put the effort in and have a major complex when playing Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:44:19 PM
50+ years of biased referees. Them city boys...

Why stop at 50 years for your conspiracy theories - sure you could count on one hand how many south west clubs have won it!!

The pick that country clubs have is a lot less than city ones have and with jobs etc migration a larger factor MR and you can win a c'ship without beating Cargin. If clubs aren't winning c'ships it doesn't mean they aren't putting in the effort!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 03:53:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:44:19 PM
50+ years of biased referees. Them city boys...

Why stop at 50 years for your conspiracy theories - sure you could count on one hand how many south west clubs have won it!!

The pick that country clubs have is a lot less than city ones have and with jobs etc migration a larger factor MR and you can win a c'ship without beating Cargin. If clubs aren't winning c'ships it doesn't mean they aren't putting in the effort!!

Not basing my post at you tommy, was wondering what bumkin is waffling about, is he bumming up Cargin as the sole warriors of the SW or is he saying that it's because of those city boys being better footballers, I don't know, he talks in riddles........ que a post with no response followed by another post with words in it ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Yep - fair enough!

Cargin should have won more to be honest but it's themselves they've had to blame and they are the "superpower" of the south west so you would expect them to be the team in contention.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Yep - fair enough!

Cargin should have won more to be honest but it's themselves they've had to blame and they are the "superpower" of the south west so you would expect them to be the team in contention.

FFS Dunloy have won more than them lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 04:29:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Yep - fair enough!

Cargin should have won more to be honest but it's themselves they've had to blame and they are the "superpower" of the south west so you would expect them to be the team in contention.

They may have milltown but u seem to ignore the question.or perhaps u have no answer..............and actually the few cargin did win were with home grown players................none from Fermanagh, Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Mc Dermott's,St Enda's etc, etc, etc...........


FFS Dunloy have won more than them lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 04:36:45 PM
Simple answer - they haven't been good enough...

what do you think the answer is??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 04:29:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Yep - fair enough!

Cargin should have won more to be honest but it's themselves they've had to blame and they are the "superpower" of the south west so you would expect them to be the team in contention.

They may have milltown but u seem to ignore the question.or perhaps u have no answer..............and actually the few cargin did win were with home grown players................none from Fermanagh, Tyrone, Armagh, Derry, Mc Dermott's,St Enda's etc, etc, etc...........


FFS Dunloy have won more than them lol

Hit quote then scroll down past the quote marks then post something............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 27, 2013, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 03:35:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 26, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
Am I missing something here. First he was biased against lambs and did them injustice in U21 semi and now we are told he was on their side in the match against cargin ? Seriously lads listen to yourselves.   No doubt he has made mistakes as has every referee apart from MR. But they are human and the same way we don't like to see players being blamed for losing matches cos they missed easy chances we find it oh so easy to blame a referee .  I think if you were ask actual players who play they rarely blame a referee , well certainly not solely blame them . It's mainly supporters ho have the issues and again because its easier to blame a referee than point the fingers at the inabilities of their own club players.
Think you are indeed missing quite a lot  mbaa, the ref in question is without doubt a poor referee or he is unashamedly biased when he officiates at Cargin games..........one or the other...........and if indeed he is considering retirement then nobody in Toome will shed a single tear

But why would he be? Is it just at Cargin games? Which referees would you prefer? one with same initials maybe?

Jaysus Lads

If I wasnt depressed enough lately with the state of our games in Antrim and further afield reading through the last number of pages makes me feel even worse.

Take a step back for one minute from you own vested interests and have a look at the childish petty points that are being made about different clubs and refs on here. This club doesnt like this one, this ref is biased against the other. Hold on a second lads is this the type of county we want to be, is this how the future is going to be? Are we ever going to step up, put our heads above the parapet and say enough is enough.

Instead of wasting on time on these squabbles we should be trying to develop our clubs and our county driving them forward and increasing the standard in general. Everyone take personal responsibility for their own behaviour, then once you have done that take responsibility for the behaviour of the young people in your charge. Instil the proper beliefs in them, show them how to play the games like young men with skill and bravery to the best of their ability. If they win, win with grace, if they lose lose with grace. Dont forget these young people only react to the behaviour of the adults that they see and are around, so if the adults act like fools what do we expect?

Fed up of this point scoring between clubs while we get further and further behind the standard of football all around us and hurling further south. IMO the standard of club hurling and football has dropped significantly and to me that is a bigger challenge to us Antrim people. This continuous cycle of recrimination after every single competition only serves to hold us back from what should be a common goal.

Sorry Rant Over!

NAG1 I agree, yourself included have had a wee dig at certain clubs and vice versa. Some people on here have agenda with certain referees and have opened up accounts for this purpose. I'm just quering the logic of some of the posters in their posts regarding a clubman and a fellow referee, similar to how you'd react if attention thrown at your club.

Very few positive posts lately

Yeah I know I have and it is easy to react when it is close to home, my point is that we are all inclined to the negative and this last few pages have shown this quite clearly. But this is not how I want the organisation to go forward and in fact if we persist with this type of behaviour we will turn our kids off from coming into and staying in our clubs and wanting to play for our county teams.

Fed up of the negativity really I guess

Ok 100% agree, will bite my tonuge ;)  and put up some positive stuff, looking forward to hurling with the reserves (kids) next year would like another few games before I hang up the boots from playing
Aye right lads we can go forward in positivity but can any of you who have insight into the affairs of the Saffron please explain why no country/south west club other than Cargin have won the senior football championship in over half a century.................


Country teams havent performed on the big day. I played in the 80s/90s when Cargin were again the stand out sw team. They had many chances to win the SC but lacked the craft and discipline to get past average Rossa and St Pauls sides. Glenravel werent far away at this time either and always performed well at championship time but just hadnt enough quality all over the pitch to really count. Dunloy always hard to beat in the championship and i firmly believe  if they had concentrated on football rather than hurling they could have won a few championships around this time. We were sunflowers come championship time and usually only enjoyed one day a year in Senior competition, just weren't good enough.
   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.

True, was one of the strangest calls, we were certainly happy when he wasn't looking after them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 27, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
The overall standard when st pauls were on top was higher and they were a very good team too. Not near as good as st galls but john mcmanus could win them games, joe kennedy wasn't bad either, finnegans etc etc made them a very solid team.

I think a big thing for st galls was how their players were developed by the sigerson and universities too. Look how many of their team made sigerson teams who were good sigerson teams. It was rare you had many, if any, players making sigerson teams an dthey'd about half a team.

Yes they were maybe lucky with circumstance that their first came earlier than it maybe normally would have but they'd have started winning at some point.
aiden donnelly,charlie mcstravick and Paul mcerlean weren't bad either.pauls had a very good side at the time(gold talkin bollix as usual)and don't argue with me cause there is no argument.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 27, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.

How did celebrations go Bannside?!

Jfjt you are such a child. Yeah they were good players. Aidan great with ball in hand and their best player. But were a simply good (not great) solid unit as i said before without any great invention or players with a sense of adventure up front.

You cannot tell me they compare to galls and their 12 antrims, 5 kilmacuds, 1 all ireland??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 27, 2013, 09:02:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.

True, was one of the strangest calls, we were certainly happy when he wasn't looking after them.
always thought jc would have been a great assistant to any Antrim manager as if you talk to the man he knows every player from every club in Antrim .He would definitely be the man for spotting up and coming talent particularly from the smaller clubs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 27, 2013, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 27, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.

How did celebrations go Bannside?!

Jfjt you are such a child. Yeah they were good players. Aidan great with ball in hand and their best player. But were a simply good (not great) solid unit as i said before without any great invention or players with a sense of adventure up front.

You cannot tell me they compare to galls and their 12 antrims, 5 kilmacuds, 1 all ireland??
is that your "phrase of the day"great invention with sense of adventure"by the way I think that phrase would suit joe Kennedy down to a tee.I also rated aiden Donnelly very highly.st Paul's had 6 or 7 players who would match up to st galls easily but then again cargin have that also.st galls main weapon is their strength in depth .15v15 you'd have to fancy galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 09:17:43 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 27, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.

How did celebrations go Bannside?!

Jfjt you are such a child. Yeah they were good players. Aidan great with ball in hand and their best player. But were a simply good (not great) solid unit as i said before without any great invention or players with a sense of adventure up front.

You cannot tell me they compare to galls and their 12 antrims, 5 kilmacuds, 1 all ireland??

Yeah I'm actually trying to think of the decent forwards they had with that team. Either or they won 3 contested a few and I doubt very much they will ever get back to competing again.

The Johnnies will eventually get back the SW clubs will come again and of course Cargin won't throw in the towel and we'll go away for a bit but defo come back, some great kids coming through and the thing is their da's were/are great players for the club too so they won't be lacking mentors. Not sure if Rossa will ever sit at top table again, they should have won minor this year but collapsed against the Johnnies (thought Rossa were the better team) an opposite to us they stick to the other code
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 27, 2013, 09:39:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on November 27, 2013, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 27, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
Looking back at it (particularly the eighties and nineties) lots of SW teams were all three or four players short of a full hand. Cargin the exception - they had the panels but an attitude that was more about the macho stuff. Self imploded a few times. They had  few macho managers too which didnt help! JC changed that and his reward was to get shafted.

How did celebrations go Bannside?!

Jfjt you are such a child. Yeah they were good players. Aidan great with ball in hand and their best player. But were a simply good (not great) solid unit as i said before without any great invention or players with a sense of adventure up front.

You cannot tell me they compare to galls and their 12 antrims, 5 kilmacuds, 1 all ireland??
is that your "phrase of the day"great invention with sense of adventure"by the way I think that phrase would suit joe Kennedy down to a tee.I also rated aiden Donnelly very highly.st Paul's had 6 or 7 players who would match up to st galls easily but then again cargin have that also.st galls main weapon is their strength in depth .15v15 you'd have to fancy galls.

I'm just saying what i think. Ive no axe to grind with any team. Your only new on here so you wouldnt know--i love Antrim and wish all teams could pull together to improve our lot.

By my phrase i meant good forward play, fake handpasses, dummy solos, ways to open up teams. Pauls didnt have that back then from what i saw. Same as your Johnnies team. Andy McCallan wouldve had that sense of adventure i talk about.

Your obsession with refs and anger etc is a laugh. Your keen on making enemies. Wise up this isnt Hoganstand!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
Has Baker started yet? Backroom staff sorted? No need for trials? He knows all the players out their plus a young buck from Portglenone back in the game and playing for UUJ I see also.

Just needs to take away the passports at the start of the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
Sunday night was just mad in the town Gold. First silverware for over 30 years and what  way to do it. My eldest lad Shane had the added honour of bringing the cup home to a packed (mental) social club where the club had laid on a reception.

Most of the team hit the Hatfield on Monday but tried hard as I did to go with them, they finally managed to give me the slip!!

Unbelievable few days that will last long in the memory.

Thanks to all for messages of goodwill and support. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 10:36:23 PM
Brill, always good to have that feeling of winning, I don't care if we continue winning for another 12 odd years the feeling is always the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 27, 2013, 10:48:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
Sunday night was just mad in the town Gold. First silverware for over 30 years and what  way to do it. My eldest lad Shane had the added honour of bringing the cup home to a packed (mental) social club where the club had laid on a reception.

Most of the team hit the Hatfield on Monday but tried hard as I did to go with them, they finally managed to give me the slip!!

Unbelievable few days that will last long in the memory.

Thanks to all for messages of goodwill and support. Much appreciated.

Class. Delighted for you. Heard your FF's leg was hangin off too.

Is it true you had FOUR sons in the back 6 including the entire half back line?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2013, 10:13:07 AM
Yes Gold. It was a fantastic day for all club members as the team delivered the clubs biggest and most prestigious win in its history.

To do it coming from 8 behind Creggan with fifteen minutes left, and 4 behind Cargin at one stage meant it was always going to be memorable. But to come from 9 behind in the final, with seven minors on the pitch was the stuff made of dreams - especially with so many Lamhs with recent county experience versus so many of our lads who went those trials but didnt make it!

Great too for a new management team of senior players who lost more than their share of finals over the years, and won this so early in their management careers.

Having four sons on the team was extra special though. How do you follow that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 28, 2013, 10:45:56 AM
Many of the U21 panel involved with the senior squad. This will surely give Casement's an impetuous going forward. The future looks good going forward but there is a major leap and steep learning curve to turn U21 success into senior success
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on November 28, 2013, 10:49:41 AM
Congratulations to the whole Portglenone Club on the success from a somewhat jealous Rasharkin man, fully deserved.

The strong reserve setup you have i think is a great thing, gives young players a great platform for football after minor even they aren't ready for senior football.  I'm not sure this impacted on your u21 side right enough but its something i took notice of last season against yous.  I hope the lads are enjoying a beer this week as they have fought for their right to party.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
100% agree. St Galls made great strides on the back of successive under 21 titles. Notably, most of their team stayed and kicked on together. Plus Mickey Culbert gave them their head too, and I'm sure a few noses were put out of joint at the time. But it paid dividends.

Casements went close last year (we took the winners to extra time in the semis). Won it this year (phew) and (whisper it) possibly our strongest team is next year (feile team).

Think you need a few years on the trot to produce really strong panels, so hopefully Casements can push on in the near future.

They are not on their own. St Johns have easily the best recent under-age record. Like the look of Rossa and St Endas too, on top of the Creggans, Cargins, Galls who also have good conveyor belts in progress. And the Lamhs too will like what they are bringing through.

These things sometimes go in cycles - remember it was St Pauls at underage for a good while. Have to say I had hoped for a greater return from the Malone Road men. Not just the big force coming through that was envisaged- would love to see their breakthrough though. The more "big guns" the better. The Galls Cargin thing every year has got repetitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
100% agree. St Galls made great strides on the back of successive under 21 titles. Notably, most of their team stayed and kicked on together. Plus Mickey Culbert gave them their head too, and I'm sure a few noses were put out of joint at the time. But it paid dividends.

Casements went close last year (we took the winners to extra time in the semis). Won it this year (phew) and (whisper it) possibly our strongest team is next year (feile team).

Think you need a few years on the trot to produce really strong panels, so hopefully Casements can push on in the near future.

They are not on their own. St Johns have easily the best recent under-age record. Like the look of Rossa and St Endas too, on top of the Creggans, Cargins, Galls who also have good conveyor belts in progress. And the Lamhs too will like what they are bringing through.

These things sometimes go in cycles - remember it was St Pauls at underage for a good while. Have to say I had hoped for a greater return from the Malone Road men. Not just the big force coming through that was envisaged- would love to see their breakthrough though. The more "big guns" the better. The Galls Cargin thing every year has got repetitive.

Then fix it ;)

Yeah Michael put a few noses out of joint, have you seen his own nose goes in 3 different directions, though he never got that through playing football lol. I was under age captain of our juvenile teams right through to minor. Got to under 21 Mickey dropped me!! never cared for what went on before, worried about what he seen at the time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 28, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
Well done to Portgleone - magic stuff!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 28, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
100% agree. St Galls made great strides on the back of successive under 21 titles. Notably, most of their team stayed and kicked on together. Plus Mickey Culbert gave them their head too, and I'm sure a few noses were put out of joint at the time. But it paid dividends.

Casements went close last year (we took the winners to extra time in the semis). Won it this year (phew) and (whisper it) possibly our strongest team is next year (feile team).

Think you need a few years on the trot to produce really strong panels, so hopefully Casements can push on in the near future.

They are not on their own. St Johns have easily the best recent under-age record. Like the look of Rossa and St Endas too, on top of the Creggans, Cargins, Galls who also have good conveyor belts in progress. And the Lamhs too will like what they are bringing through.

These things sometimes go in cycles - remember it was St Pauls at underage for a good while. Have to say I had hoped for a greater return from the Malone Road men. Not just the big force coming through that was envisaged- would love to see their breakthrough though. The more "big guns" the better. The Galls Cargin thing every year has got repetitive.

Then fix it ;)

Yeah Michael put a few noses out of joint, have you seen his own nose goes in 3 different directions, though he never got that through playing football lol. I was under age captain of our juvenile teams right through to minor. Got to under 21 Mickey dropped me!! never cared for what went on before, worried about what he seen at the time

Not a bad judge then lol ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on November 28, 2013, 12:51:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 26, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Quote from: jftj on November 25, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2013, 08:35:10 PM
Im told the letter sent into UC from the "Judas"(as he is now known)referee is out there now in circulation, who knows what website that might end up on??
right so a referee with a bit of sense(totes) decides to tell the truth about a very poor referee who ruined one of the best games of the year and as a result he is called a 'judas'.MIBAG ,I believe you are Duffy(the ref in question)and I have heard you are thinking of retirement-happy days,close the door after you.Please don't follow into officialdom like all the rest of the failed refs because I don't think our county can take any more pythons squeezing the life out of our games.'URGENTLY NEEDED '!'true Gaels who wish to improve our players to an extent where we can challenge annually.'Requirements'-heart and soul.

Agree 100% jftj that particular man in black of whom you speak is arrogant in the extreme and he would certainly fit in with
those 'pythons'. He was appointed to ref the senior semi final game involving cargin and lamh dhearg and his performance was wholly biased as the stats of the game underline.....fact, 1.cargin were not awarded a single free kick within 70 metres from the l dearg posts for the duration of the game 2. cargin obviously did not record a single score from a free for the duration 3. l dearg were awarded a most dubious penalty, and of their total 1-9 scored only three came from play... I am quite certain that cargin would be delighted if he slammed the door shut on his way out.

More bullshite, seriously do you think Naomh Gall need the referee to 'help' us win the championship?  We don't give away too many frees either in our games, do it in the opositions half as they can lead to scores (if you're going to foul, do it in their half of the pitch, have you learnt nothing?)

More referee flogging, teams lose games, if you're good enough you'll win, we haven't complained about too many refereeing decisions funny enough ;)
So just where do I mention Gall's Milltown?????...........
The Referee bashing alive and well I note,hh hmm :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 28, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
100% agree. St Galls made great strides on the back of successive under 21 titles. Notably, most of their team stayed and kicked on together. Plus Mickey Culbert gave them their head too, and I'm sure a few noses were put out of joint at the time. But it paid dividends.

Casements went close last year (we took the winners to extra time in the semis). Won it this year (phew) and (whisper it) possibly our strongest team is next year (feile team).

Think you need a few years on the trot to produce really strong panels, so hopefully Casements can push on in the near future.

They are not on their own. St Johns have easily the best recent under-age record. Like the look of Rossa and St Endas too, on top of the Creggans, Cargins, Galls who also have good conveyor belts in progress. And the Lamhs too will like what they are bringing through.

These things sometimes go in cycles - remember it was St Pauls at underage for a good while. Have to say I had hoped for a greater return from the Malone Road men. Not just the big force coming through that was envisaged- would love to see their breakthrough though. The more "big guns" the better. The Galls Cargin thing every year has got repetitive.

Then fix it ;)

Yeah Michael put a few noses out of joint, have you seen his own nose goes in 3 different directions, though he never got that through playing football lol. I was under age captain of our juvenile teams right through to minor. Got to under 21 Mickey dropped me!! never cared for what went on before, worried about what he seen at the time

Not a bad judge then lol ;D

Spot on Grizzy, too fond of me drink and far more interested in the wee ball game anyway at the time, wish I had have stayed on looking back but sure we know everything when we are that age!! #knowfcukall   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 28, 2013, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
100% agree. St Galls made great strides on the back of successive under 21 titles. Notably, most of their team stayed and kicked on together. Plus Mickey Culbert gave them their head too, and I'm sure a few noses were put out of joint at the time. But it paid dividends.

Casements went close last year (we took the winners to extra time in the semis). Won it this year (phew) and (whisper it) possibly our strongest team is next year (feile team).

Think you need a few years on the trot to produce really strong panels, so hopefully Casements can push on in the near future.

They are not on their own. St Johns have easily the best recent under-age record. Like the look of Rossa and St Endas too, on top of the Creggans, Cargins, Galls who also have good conveyor belts in progress. And the Lamhs too will like what they are bringing through.

These things sometimes go in cycles - remember it was St Pauls at underage for a good while. Have to say I had hoped for a greater return from the Malone Road men. Not just the big force coming through that was envisaged- would love to see their breakthrough though. The more "big guns" the better. The Galls Cargin thing every year has got repetitive.


Bannside - How many of the U21 side are ready for senior football-I see you say that next years team of U21's is possibility stronger than this years - would Casements main aim now be to get promotion so they can compete at the top leverl are  they ready?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2013, 02:12:24 PM
Casements rebuilding has been ongoing for a few years now. We dropped into Div 2 and we could have pushed on a few times and probably got promotion (one year we voted against going up when we had the opportunity).

We won a reserve plate and followed this up with a reserve championship the following year, beating Cargin and St Johns second strings, and as Dreen says, most of those lads that played on Sunday were involved. I managed those two teams, so to be honest we were pleased with the progress.

Most around the club thought we just weren't ready, and did not fancy the yoyo effect of going down, then up, then down again. But we have always known there were a few decent ones coming through the system, and possibly better to go up when we were ready.

Big Niall an obvious boost too of course. Yes we think we should be a strong div 2 team next year, and if we go up we should be in a position to push on and get back to our lofty top four position of the noughties. Well that's the plan anyway!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
but sure we know everything when we are that age!! #knowfcukall

You didnt know what a hash tag was thats for sure  :)

....I still don't  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 28, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
but sure we know everything when we are that age!! #knowfcukall

You didnt know what a hash tag was thats for sure  :)

....I still don't  :-\

No the kids are doing it so fcuk it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 28, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
Bannside

Hope casements push on from this and get their just reward's seniors were going well last year and looked as if they could go all the way but came up short - the club have a good platform to build on - are the senior management team the same as last year -are the U21 management team involved with the senior/reserve teams. As you have said it sometime takes a "persuasive" manager to take the young player to the next level. Any candidates ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
The under 21 management team are all expected to be part of next years senior panel so I dont think they have senior or reserve management aspirations just yet. Plenty of time for that. Some mark on their coaching CV though!

Hey all this about Casements must be getting tedious for some. Enjoyed our few days in the sun but challenge is now to kick on to the next level. Always easier said than done!

Youre new oneclubonelife. Welcome lad and to a few other newcomers recently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on November 28, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
Amazing  ::)

Never ceases to amaze me that so many vitriolic demagogues can gather in one place and spin their spurious diatribe, and then believe they are making some kind of difference to the woes and misfortunes of Antrim.  Absolutely amazing  :'(.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on November 28, 2013, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2013, 10:13:07 AM
Yes Gold. It was a fantastic day for all club members as the team delivered the clubs biggest and most prestigious win in its history.

To do it coming from 8 behind Creggan with fifteen minutes left, and 4 behind Cargin at one stage meant it was always going to be memorable. But to come from 9 behind in the final, with seven minors on the pitch was the stuff made of dreams - especially with so many Lamhs with recent county experience versus so many of our lads who went those trials but didnt make it!

Great too for a new management team of senior players who lost more than their share of finals over the years, and won this so early in their management careers.

Having four sons on the team was extra special though. How do you follow that?
With a senior of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2013, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on November 28, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
Bannside

Hope casements push on from this and get their just reward's seniors were going well last year and looked as if they could go all the way but came up short - the club have a good platform to build on - are the senior management team the same as last year -are the U21 management team involved with the senior/reserve teams. As you have said it sometime takes a "persuasive" manager to take the young player to the next level. Any candidates ?



Fair play Bannside. Portglenone are a fantastic club full of great football men & even better ladies! The success is down to the hard work of a small close knit club and is an example to every other club.

Who is in the frame for the senior job next year? That'd be a great job for somebody. Young side and a few old heads threw in for good measure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
It wasnt that appealing looking a month ago when St Teresas beat us fair and square in the int final Paddy John.

St Teresas have the best young player I have seen for manys a year. Definite county star in the making. Look out for him. Conor Mallon.

Conor O Rawe up there too in the same mould. Two class acts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2013, 09:45:57 PM
A job like the Portglenone job always looks appealing. St Teresa's beat you fair and square that day but they had a bit of luck which is needed. They are also a good young side. Div2 will be close this year as it was last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on November 29, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
bannside, no offence, but everytime you talk about a young player he's 'the best you've seen in a long time'. Maybe time to just say 'he's got potential' and leave it at that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 29, 2013, 04:08:14 PM
Fair enough Stibhan but my own problem with that is that I hate the word "potential". Hundreds of players have potential and wouldnt excite me this much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on November 29, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
Off to the Dub this evening.  Another few pounds in the making, lets hope HMRC are not in attendance :-X

La Salle and St. Joes Newry for me.


OH Oh - were really fcuked now:

County Convention

Monday 9th December 2013

Wee JE to steer the ship.  Women and children first please  :-[

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2013, 11:31:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2013, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Yep - fair enough!

Cargin should have won more to be honest but it's themselves they've had to blame and they are the "superpower" of the south west so you would expect them to be the team in contention.

FFS Dunloy have won more than them lol

You seem to have some negative feelings about Cargin Milltown...............hope such does not hinder ur whistling..........Or perhaps it already has..............
Cargin would have won a few more championships but unfortunately for them they came up against a very strong gall's side.........which had gathered players from far and wide, to include imports from fermanagh, derry, armagh, down, and tyrone, as well as from mc dermott's, st enda's, etc, etc, etc...............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.

Ah, the Mc Cooey within doth emerge Milltown............ur eloquence astounds me as you seek the aid of the urban to add insult.......pity ur not as thoughtful or indeed as subtle as u think in ur whistling duties............and cargin may have a couple from those clubs of whom u speak, but none have ever been sought from armagh, tyrone, derry, down, fermanagh..........provincially cosmopolitan i  think................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.

Ah, the Mc Cooey within doth emerge Milltown............ur eloquence astounds me as you seek the aid of the urban to add insult.......pity ur not as thoughtful or indeed as subtle as u think in ur whistling duties............and cargin may have a couple from those clubs of whom u speak, but none have ever been sought from armagh, tyrone, derry, down, fermanagh..........provincially cosmopolitan i  think................

City clubs be it Dublin, Cork, Galway Belfast will have players who were born in other counties playing for them. These men moved to a city for work/college and still wanted to play football so joined a local team. Its better that those men play footbal than play none at all. Those men then live in Dublin or wherever--so why shouldnt they play for a team there?

I can tell you now if i was from Fermanagh or Armagh etc it would be impossible for me to travel there midweek for training. Never mind even going to play for them at the weekend as the fellas lives are in the city then, jobs, families etc, not back where they once lived. I dont think its a case of seeking players. Good players moving into the city will always go to the better teams or teams where their friends are or teams that are known to be welcoming and not cliquey

To my knowledge their arent many Universities or employment opportunities in Toome so cant imagine many people from around the province will be moving there. And say they did, say a Fermanagh man moved into Toome and went up to training and said 'im living here now, i got a job round the corner, i want to join you' would you say 'no, you were born 80 miles away and used to play for a club there, you cannot join us, i dont care that  you live here now' ???

Wise up!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.

Ah, the Mc Cooey within doth emerge Milltown............ur eloquence astounds me as you seek the aid of the urban to add insult.......pity ur not as thoughtful or indeed as subtle as u think in ur whistling duties............and cargin may have a couple from those clubs of whom u speak, but none have ever been sought from armagh, tyrone, derry, down, fermanagh..........provincially cosmopolitan i  think................

City clubs be it Dublin, Cork, Galway Belfast will have players who were born in other counties playing for them. These men moved to a city for work/college and still wanted to play football so joined a local team. Its better that those men play footbal than play none at all. Those men then live in Dublin or wherever--so why shouldnt they play for a team there?

I can tell you now if i was from Fermanagh or Armagh etc it would be impossible for me to travel there midweek for training. Never mind even going to play for them at the weekend as the fellas lives are in the city then, jobs, families etc, not back where they once lived. I dont think its a case of seeking players. Good players moving into the city will always go to the better teams or teams where their friends are or teams that are known to be welcoming and not cliquey

To my knowledge their arent many Universities or employment opportunities in Toome so cant imagine many people from around the province will be moving there. And say they did, say a Fermanagh man moved into Toome and went up to training and said 'im living here now, i got a job round the corner, i want to join you' would you say 'no, you were born 80 miles away and used to play for a club there, you cannot join us, i dont care that  you live here now' ???

Wise up!
I presume to be quite wise gold and u have hit the nail right smack on the head..............Country based sides, Cargin included have done quite well to compete with such a set up which is far from the parish scene.................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.

Ah, the Mc Cooey within doth emerge Milltown............ur eloquence astounds me as you seek the aid of the urban to add insult.......pity ur not as thoughtful or indeed as subtle as u think in ur whistling duties............and cargin may have a couple from those clubs of whom u speak, but none have ever been sought from armagh, tyrone, derry, down, fermanagh..........provincially cosmopolitan i  think................

City clubs be it Dublin, Cork, Galway Belfast will have players who were born in other counties playing for them. These men moved to a city for work/college and still wanted to play football so joined a local team. Its better that those men play footbal than play none at all. Those men then live in Dublin or wherever--so why shouldnt they play for a team there?

I can tell you now if i was from Fermanagh or Armagh etc it would be impossible for me to travel there midweek for training. Never mind even going to play for them at the weekend as the fellas lives are in the city then, jobs, families etc, not back where they once lived. I dont think its a case of seeking players. Good players moving into the city will always go to the better teams or teams where their friends are or teams that are known to be welcoming and not cliquey

To my knowledge their arent many Universities or employment opportunities in Toome so cant imagine many people from around the province will be moving there. And say they did, say a Fermanagh man moved into Toome and went up to training and said 'im living here now, i got a job round the corner, i want to join you' would you say 'no, you were born 80 miles away and used to play for a club there, you cannot join us, i dont care that  you live here now' ???

Wise up!
I presume to be quite wise gold and u have hit the nail right smack on the head..............Country based sides, Cargin included have done quite well to compete with such a set up which is far from the parish scene.................

First off you've taken players from outside local parishes who don't work in Toome, so full of shite for that statement, secondly as a single code club (unless you include soccer) you will larger numbers playing one code. Large parish also which can facilitate 3 teams, I'd say youse could do a lot better with the numbers you have but always shit in the nest when it comes to beating City teams, be it in Belfast or up the country......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Language a bit crude Milltown, and certainly not in keeping with all of those members of the Gall's club who have been fine ambassadors for the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on November 30, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
Sure all hankyball (big ball) Clubs have their blow ins.  And surely all you devoted soccer men know that! Thankfully it does not transcend to hurling clubs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Language a bit crude Milltown, and certainly not in keeping with all of those members of the Gall's club who have been fine ambassadors for the county.

Ok the WUM's are back, I doubt you're from Cargin at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Language a bit crude Milltown, and certainly not in keeping with all of those members of the Gall's club who have been fine ambassadors for the county.
Back to the old urban dictionary Milltown................well it's better than those planter based insults................

Ok the WUM's are back, I doubt you're from Cargin at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on November 30, 2013, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Language a bit crude Milltown, and certainly not in keeping with all of those members of the Gall's club who have been fine ambassadors for the county.
Back to the old urban dictionary Milltown................well it's better than those planter based insults................

Ok the WUM's are back, I doubt you're from Cargin at all.
The old saying CB, EMPTY VESSELS ;)  Well said CB and you're right, there are St. Galls people, fine St. Galls people and there are, well you know what I mean  ???  I suppose all clubs have them though, and not just the preserve of the McCooeys!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on November 30, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
It's not surprising our County team is in such a state. :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 11:08:52 PM
Quote from: glens abu on November 30, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
It's not surprising our County team is in such a state. :-[ :-[ :-[

They come on every so often, have a pop at the posters then either leave cause no one plays with them or get banned. Sad really and if you look at any of their posts there is nothing supportive of the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 01, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.
Glipe ! I haven't heard that word in a while-cracker.On this occasion I think you,ve used it in the perfect sense.the man hasn't a clue."dummy soloing to open up a defence".i try to beat that out of 6year olds ffs.go back to soccer u retard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 01, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.

Ah, the Mc Cooey within doth emerge Milltown............ur eloquence astounds me as you seek the aid of the urban to add insult.......pity ur not as thoughtful or indeed as subtle as u think in ur whistling duties............and cargin may have a couple from those clubs of whom u speak, but none have ever been sought from armagh, tyrone, derry, down, fermanagh..........provincially cosmopolitan i  think................

City clubs be it Dublin, Cork, Galway Belfast will have players who were born in other counties playing for them. These men moved to a city for work/college and still wanted to play football so joined a local team. Its better that those men play footbal than play none at all. Those men then live in Dublin or wherever--so why shouldnt they play for a team there?

I can tell you now if i was from Fermanagh or Armagh etc it would be impossible for me to travel there midweek for training. Never mind even going to play for them at the weekend as the fellas lives are in the city then, jobs, families etc, not back where they once lived. I dont think its a case of seeking players. Good players moving into the city will always go to the better teams or teams where their friends are or teams that are known to be welcoming and not cliquey

To my knowledge their arent many Universities or employment opportunities in Toome so cant imagine many people from around the province will be moving there. And say they did, say a Fermanagh man moved into Toome and went up to training and said 'im living here now, i got a job round the corner, i want to join you' would you say 'no, you were born 80 miles away and used to play for a club there, you cannot join us, i dont care that  you live here now' ???

Wise up!
I presume to be quite wise gold and u have hit the nail right smack on the head..............Country based sides, Cargin included have done quite well to compete with such a set up which is far from the parish scene.................
Cargin have always punched under their weight as regards winning c,ships and I don't think anybody can argue with that.

First off you've taken players from outside local parishes who don't work in Toome, so full of shite for that statement, secondly as a single code club (unless you include soccer) you will larger numbers playing one code. Large parish also which can facilitate 3 teams, I'd say youse could do a lot better with the numbers you have but always shit in the nest when it comes to beating City teams, be it in Belfast or up the country......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
The McCooey mindest never changes, does it?  Gold bless us all. Have to agree, we really are in a bad pace.  Just like the McCooeys to apportion blame far beyond their own doorstep.  A bit of 'Shinner' syndrome setting in me thinks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 01, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2013, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.

Ah, the Mc Cooey within doth emerge Milltown............ur eloquence astounds me as you seek the aid of the urban to add insult.......pity ur not as thoughtful or indeed as subtle as u think in ur whistling duties............and cargin may have a couple from those clubs of whom u speak, but none have ever been sought from armagh, tyrone, derry, down, fermanagh..........provincially cosmopolitan i  think................

City clubs be it Dublin, Cork, Galway Belfast will have players who were born in other counties playing for them. These men moved to a city for work/college and still wanted to play football so joined a local team. Its better that those men play footbal than play none at all. Those men then live in Dublin or wherever--so why shouldnt they play for a team there?

I can tell you now if i was from Fermanagh or Armagh etc it would be impossible for me to travel there midweek for training. Never mind even going to play for them at the weekend as the fellas lives are in the city then, jobs, families etc, not back where they once lived. I dont think its a case of seeking players. Good players moving into the city will always go to the better teams or teams where their friends are or teams that are known to be welcoming and not cliquey

To my knowledge their arent many Universities or employment opportunities in Toome so cant imagine many people from around the province will be moving there. And say they did, say a Fermanagh man moved into Toome and went up to training and said 'im living here now, i got a job round the corner, i want to join you' would you say 'no, you were born 80 miles away and used to play for a club there, you cannot join us, i dont care that  you live here now' ???

Wise up!
I presume to be quite wise gold and u have hit the nail right smack on the head..............Country based sides, Cargin included have done quite well to compete with such a set up which is far from the parish scene.................
Cargin have always punched under their weight as regards winning c,ships and I don't think anybody can argue with that.

First off you've taken players from outside local parishes who don't work in Toome, so full of shite for that statement, secondly as a single code club (unless you include soccer) you will larger numbers playing one code. Large parish also which can facilitate 3 teams, I'd say youse could do a lot better with the numbers you have but always shit in the nest when it comes to beating City teams, be it in Belfast or up the country......
Wise statement indeed jftj when u determine the strength of parish on the number of teams accommodated from within. Sure u reside within the most densely populated areas of western europe...........and the johnnies haven't broken much delph at senior level for a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2013, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 01, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If Im negative towards you its doesn't mean Im negative towards Cargin ya glipe!! Im glad Cargin haven't any players from outside Toome  ::) oh wait...Tir na og  Creggan ........ Glass houses ya tool.
Glipe ! I haven't heard that word in a while-cracker.On this occasion I think you,ve used it in the perfect sense.the man hasn't a clue."dummy soloing to open up a defence".i try to beat that out of 6year olds ffs.go back to soccer u retard.

Jeez jftij doubt u could teach even a six year old. anything..........your grammar is terrible, and your language is no better......and that word which you say fully describes me certainly would not be in my vocabulary as it originates from the planter, or possibly you prefer the term Scots Irish..................methinks you are well schooled in the tradition of the Mc Cooey who believes the world ends at the end of the Fall's road and anyone from beyond is of lesser intellect................you need to broaden your horizons  and definitely your mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BingoJunior on December 01, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
Division 3 Football Team in Belfast (Antrim) looking for a new manager for the 2014 season.

If you would be interested or know anyone that would be interested contact Stephen on 07544137665 or email vh_5150@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
The McCooey mindest never changes, does it?  Gold bless us all. Have to agree, we really are in a bad pace.  Just like the McCooeys to apportion blame far beyond their own doorstep.  A bit of 'Shinner' syndrome setting in me thinks!

Better not let Mr.Logan hear you say that or you might get a slap. ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
The McCooey mindest never changes, does it?  Gold bless us all. Have to agree, we really are in a bad pace.  Just like the McCooeys to apportion blame far beyond their own doorstep.  A bit of 'Shinner' syndrome setting in me thinks!

Better not let Mr.Logan hear you say that or you might get a slap. ;D
Does straight, transparent dialogue scare you Glens Abu? Do u want to give Mr. Logan my address if he would like to attempt his slapping tirade, I fear no man, no club, no unprincipled organisation  ::)   FFS stand up an be counted, that's what I say  ;)  The McCooeys have been blinded by their middle class church and the truceateers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
The McCooey mindest never changes, does it?  Gold bless us all. Have to agree, we really are in a bad pace.  Just like the McCooeys to apportion blame far beyond their own doorstep.  A bit of 'Shinner' syndrome setting in me thinks!

Better not let Mr.Logan hear you say that or you might get a slap. ;D
Does straight, transparent dialogue scare you Glens Abu? Do u want to give Mr. Logan my address if he would like to attempt his slapping tirade, I fear no man, no club, no unprincipled organisation  ::)   FFS stand up an be counted, that's what I say  ;)  The McCooeys have been blinded by their middle class church and the truceateers!

Ffs lighten up dickhead, :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
Don't get drawn in glens, they'll get fed up and go or get banned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
Don't get drawn in glens, they'll get fed up and go or get banned

could be right. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 10:18:50 PM
Quote from: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: glens abu on December 01, 2013, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
The McCooey mindest never changes, does it?  Gold bless us all. Have to agree, we really are in a bad pace.  Just like the McCooeys to apportion blame far beyond their own doorstep.  A bit of 'Shinner' syndrome setting in me thinks!

Better not let Mr.Logan hear you say that or you might get a slap. ;D
Does straight, transparent dialogue scare you Glens Abu? Do u want to give Mr. Logan my address if he would like to attempt his slapping tirade, I fear no man, no club, no unprincipled organisation  ::)   FFS stand up an be counted, that's what I say  ;)  The McCooeys have been blinded by their middle class church and the truceateers!

Ffs lighten up d**khead, :-[
[/quote Ur talking like a McCooey now! No need at all  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 01, 2013, 10:40:37 PM
Some ppl have little to do over the winter than stir it up!

Heard that county football games r goin to be played in Creggan, fair play to them, great setup and they deserve it.

County r training in gym 2 nights thru the week and out on pitch at weekend, big commitment shown by players hope they get their rewards come championship!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 02, 2013, 11:53:31 AM
Motions for Convention 2013

Motion 1
That a sanction may be granted (up to a maximum of 5 per club ) to a player (s) to play U21 Championship for another club, when their parent club is not participating in that year's competition.
All sanctions to be completed by 1st March each year

Motion 2
That the All County Adult football leagues commence on the first Sunday of February each year.
Clubs play their All County leagues fixtures without their county players during the National League competitions.
Play offs be introduced to determine relegation in Divisions 1, 2, 3.football
Bottom 4 teams play relegation semi finals and final .Beaten finalist is relegated
Relegation play off winner plays the runner up in the division below- winner promoted / retains status.

Motion 3
That the ACHL Div 1 be played as follows;

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams
Everyone plays each other once.
After all nine games are played (or the stipulated cut off date is reached) the league splits into two sections, with top 5 teams playing off for the league title and bottom 5 teams playing off against relegation.

The reserve league would follow the above format.

Teams who play at home in the first phase (games 1 to 9) will travel to the opposition venue if paired together in phase 2

Motion 4
That the ACFL Divisions 1 to 3 be reorganised to form two divisions consisting of 15 teams each playing a one way league, taking effect in 2014.
Conn Mag Aoidh

Motion 5
That an ACF reserve league be ran in line with the above proposed restructured ACFL division 1 and 2
Each divisions consisting of 15 teams each play a one way league, taking effect in 2014.

Motion 6
That the ACFL, where each league has the same number of teams as it, the teams in each league would play each other once (9 games) after this the leagues would be split into 2 sections; top 5 (1a) & bottom 5 (1b) and each club would play the other 4 in their half home and away (8 games). Each club would therefore have 17 games in a season. Points gained from the first half of the league would continue on into the second half of the league when the league is split. Whoever is top of the league (top of 1a) when all games are played ie the team with the most points would be crowned champions and gaining automatic promotion if applicable.
The team who has least points (bottom of 1b) would be relegated to the division below.
The team who finished second from bottom would have a playoff game with the team who finished second highest in the league below for the right to play in the higher division the following year.
This would make all league games competitive and every team would be incentivised to compete and play all their games either to get into the top tier of the league, try to win the league or to avoid relegation/playoffs

Motion 7
That the All County Adult football leagues commence on the first Sunday of February each year.
Clubs who won't play (due to County Players participating in the NFL) will have their games rescheduled to the 1st available Wednesday night.

Motion 8
In recognition of the GAA policies on the welfare of children and the importance of Post Primary Education all competitive under 16 and minor football / hurling fixtures should be arranged for Friday evenings or Saturdays during the GCSE and A level exam periods.

Motion 9
In recognition of the GAA policies on the welfare of children and the importance of Post Primary Education we suggest that no competitive under 16 or minor football/hurling fixtures should be arranged during the GCSE or A level examination periods.


What do people make of the motions? in relation to the football league and the 2 leagues of 15, just a quick scan and it may be a bit harsh on teams at the bottom of the current div 3, for example Eire Og coming up will play the likes of Gort, Aghagallon and Glenavy, might be a struggle. Would there be a better way of structuring the leagues? think the idea of starting the leagues early is a good idea to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 12:50:40 PM
There seems to be nothing much wrong with that, playoffs were tried before and I liked them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 02, 2013, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: BingoJunior on December 01, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
Division 3 Football Team in Belfast (Antrim) looking for a new manager for the 2014 season.

If you would be interested or know anyone that would be interested contact Stephen on 07544137665 or email vh_5150@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks
why dont u give country bumpkin a call.He has great affection for all things McCooey;he will start his sessions with a bit of forward play practicing the all important 'dummy solo and dummy handpass technjques'thus insuring that your team are seen to play with a sense of adventure[while everybody else are laughing their balls off at this bunch of clowns];a quick shower followed by a white board session explaining to the players about the origins of the words they are using[just to make sure they are really bored to tears] and then move on to c,ship preparations where it can be explained to the players the importance of 'choking' on the big day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2013, 04:54:55 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 02, 2013, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: BingoJunior on December 01, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
Division 3 Football Team in Belfast (Antrim) looking for a new manager for the 2014 season.

If you would be interested or know anyone that would be interested contact Stephen on 07544137665 or email vh_5150@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks
why dont u give country bumpkin a call.He has great affection for all things McCooey;he will start his sessions with a bit of forward play practicing the all important 'dummy solo and dummy handpass technjques'thus insuring that your team are seen to play with a sense of adventure[while everybody else are laughing their balls off at this bunch of clowns];a quick shower followed by a white board session explaining to the players about the origins of the words they are using[just to make sure they are really bored to tears] and then move on to c,ship preparations where it can be explained to the players the importance of 'choking' on the big day.
And conclude with a lesson on the difference between a comma and an apostrophe............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 02, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2013, 04:54:55 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 02, 2013, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: BingoJunior on December 01, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
Division 3 Football Team in Belfast (Antrim) looking for a new manager for the 2014 season.

If you would be interested or know anyone that would be interested contact Stephen on 07544137665 or email vh_5150@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks
why dont u give country bumpkin a call.He has great affection for all things McCooey;he will start his sessions with a bit of forward play practicing the all important 'dummy solo and dummy handpass technjques'thus insuring that your team are seen to play with a sense of adventure[while everybody else are laughing their balls off at this bunch of clowns];a quick shower followed by a white board session explaining to the players about the origins of the words they are using[just to make sure they are really bored to tears] and then move on to c,ship preparations where it can be explained to the players the importance of 'choking' on the big day.
And conclude with a lesson on the difference between a comma and an apostrophe............
yes,that should just about tip the boredom threshold.You could go down as maybe the worst ever manager in antrim.Dawson beware,CB is gunning for your record.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 03, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
Never had great faith in the decision the CB came to in giving the Antrim job to the Baker and his team but a lot more concerned now that I hear Paddy is joining Kevin Cassidy as part of Gaoth Dobhair back room team and Baker will be managing Claudy.Where in the order will Antrim come after Gweedore,Glenuillin and Claudy.Answers on a postcard please Baker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on December 03, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Holy Ghost Glens you have it in bad for Paddy.
I know he told the club he intends to turn out for them when he isnt involved with Antrim. So i would doubt very much he is involved with Gweedore. Himself and Kevin are friendly so I can see were the link might have happened. Doubt very much theres anything in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 03, 2013, 05:40:41 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 03, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Holy Ghost Glens you have it in bad for Paddy.
I know he told the club he intends to turn out for them when he isnt involved with Antrim. So i would doubt very much he is involved with Gweedore. Himself and Kevin are friendly so I can see were the link might have happened. Doubt very much theres anything in it.

Hope you are right but was on Twitter today about Gweedore.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on December 03, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Taking gweedore would mean not playing for Glenullin. That'll not happen with Paddy.
I know he coaches in a summer scheme/irish school with Cassidy so I'd say its something along them lines. Nothing more than a few coaching sessions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 03, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Taking gweedore would mean not playing for Glenullin. That'll not happen with Paddy.
I know he coaches in a summer scheme/irish school with Cassidy so I'd say its something along them lines. Nothing more than a few coaching sessions
Baker was by far the best coach/manager we have had for longer than I can remember and it's great to have him back. Sure he is in charge at Claudy at the moment and in fact he has guided them to the Derry u-21 final, but his committment to Antrim is beyond question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 03, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 03, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Taking gweedore would mean not playing for Glenullin. That'll not happen with Paddy.
I know he coaches in a summer scheme/irish school with Cassidy so I'd say its something along them lines. Nothing more than a few coaching sessions
Baker was by far the best coach/manager we have had for longer than I can remember and it's great to have him back. Sure he is in charge at Claudy at the moment and in fact he has guided them to the Derry u-21 final, but his committment to Antrim is beyond question.

Why would a manager leave & come back again a few years later, that being the case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on December 03, 2013, 07:43:14 PM
Great time for him to come back on a personal level . With antrim in the doldrums the only way is up and if he gains promotion he will be a hero again . With the players available again and following last years debacle there is a good chance he will come out of this all smiles and be able to add to his cv. Not a hard decision really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2013, 12:02:14 PM
The way I look at it Glens Abu is that if Paddy or Baker can work a position where they have two or three "paymasters" at the one time, then fair play to them for pulling off an amazing feat.  After all, they will be judged on results and not how many teams they can juggle at he one time!

My problem is not with them for attempting this - it is with a county board that I honestly feel wouldn't have the capacity to drill down to this necessary level of detail. Do they not know, or not care. That is the question. And which answer is worse?

Only in Antrim.....

Baker wont need reminding that his fourth and final year with Antrim was a mixed bag, and he was flat out involved with Glenullin that year too, so hopefully lessons will be learnt.

The styles of play were identical too. Way too defensive for my liking, and not productive at all. Hopefully lessons will have been learnt and we see a more expansive and attacking side this year. Going by reports that's Paddys brief.

Its a results driven business, so hopefully we should get out of division four and beat Fermanagh. Thats the bottom line. In the meantime we need to get behind it.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 04, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 04, 2013, 12:02:14 PM
The way I look at it Glens Abu is that if Paddy or Baker can work a position where they have two or three "paymasters" at the one time, then fair play to them for pulling off an amazing feat.  After all, they will be judged on results and not how many teams they can juggle at he one time!

My problem is not with them for attempting this - it is with a county board that I honestly feel wouldn't have the capacity to drill down to this necessary level of detail. Do they not know, or not care. That is the question. And which answer is worse?

Only in Antrim.....

Baker wont need reminding that his fourth and final year with Antrim was a mixed bag, and he was flat out involved with Glenullin that year too, so hopefully lessons will be learnt.

The styles of play were identical too. Way too defensive for my liking, and not productive at all. Hopefully lessons will have been learnt and we see a more expansive and attacking side this year. Going by reports that's Paddys brief.

Its a results driven business, so hopefully we should get out of division four and beat Fermanagh. Thats the bottom line. In the meantime we need to get behind it.

Well bannside I think that's the least we should expect with the players we have,but my big concern is can the Baker boys give what is required by Antrim with having so many other interests and yes i would like to know if the interviewing panel were told of these other interests at the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 04, 2013, 01:44:02 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on December 04, 2013, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 04, 2013, 12:02:14 PM
The way I look at it Glens Abu is that if Paddy or Baker can work a position where they have two or three "paymasters" at the one time, then fair play to them for pulling off an amazing feat.  After all, they will be judged on results and not how many teams they can juggle at he one time!

My problem is not with them for attempting this - it is with a county board that I honestly feel wouldn't have the capacity to drill down to this necessary level of detail. Do they not know, or not care. That is the question. And which answer is worse?

Only in Antrim.....

Baker wont need reminding that his fourth and final year with Antrim was a mixed bag, and he was flat out involved with Glenullin that year too, so hopefully lessons will be learnt.

The styles of play were identical too. Way too defensive for my liking, and not productive at all. Hopefully lessons will have been learnt and we see a more expansive and attacking side this year. Going by reports that's Paddys brief.

Its a results driven business, so hopefully we should get out of division four and beat Fermanagh. Thats the bottom line. In the meantime we need to get behind it.

There taking a quer hand out of you Antrim boys, Paddy confirmed in the Irish News he's with Gweedore, playing with Glenullin and coaching with Antrim. I would love to hear the explanation of how he will juggle that up to the end of June, he'll have no bother in July and August due to being off as a teacher. Lets face it Antrim will be out of the picture by end of July as will most counities, but the bulk of the county commitments is from Jan to July, talk about serving 3 masters never mind two. Some craic.
Baker taking Claudy (is that it ) along with Antrim. If I were an Antrim man I would be taking that as an insult, and asking some serious questions off county officials.

From my understanding, if they of got the gig, that Madden and Adams other commitments apart from the senior county team was to manage the development squads and tail gate with the u21 and minor set up to bring ANTRIM forward. Now that's commitment to a county.

Didnt see that in Irish News but if its confirmed I think the CB need to take a good look at themselves and must be very hard for Adams and Madden to take.I wonder did the two glipes who voted for the Bakers know this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on December 04, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
I'm sure Madden and Adams would have done a good job with the youth set up - why not approach them to do just that, then? It's what people in Tyrone do and I for one would like to see them cut their teeth at Inter County underage level and affirm their credentials for a job.

Baker was the best man for the Seniors in my opinion, from what was on offer. That is simply because he has a good track record with us and knows the county better than any other outsider. Outsiders, as we know, are fairly key in the world of Antrim Seniors for various reasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 04, 2013, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: stibhan on December 04, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
I'm sure Madden and Adams would have done a good job with the youth set up - why not approach them to do just that, then? It's what people in Tyrone do and I for one would like to see them cut their teeth at Inter County underage level and affirm their credentials for a job.

Baker was the best man for the Seniors in my opinion, from what was on offer. That is simply because he has a good track record with us and knows the county better than any other outsider. Outsiders, as we know, are fairly key in the world of Antrim Seniors for various reasons.

Think they both have inter county experience,but maybe you are right and the Bakers will do the job.I know Paddy has a big ego but would still worry that he can play for his club and hold down two coaching jobs one in antrim and one in Gweedore.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Could anyone post the article in the IN were Paddy confirmed he is taking Gweedore because I read it earlier and didnt see it!
As I said yesterday, Paddy confirmed to the club weeks ago he is going to continue playing when he can and when it doesnt interfere with Antrim. This talk of Gweedore is pie in the sky stuff.
He has kids and is currently building a house FFS
But its no surprise that Glens Abu and Man Marker want to try and make a story out of anything Paddy does. Serious gripe you men have I tell you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Could anyone post the article in the IN were Paddy confirmed he is taking Gweedore because I read it earlier and didnt see it!
As I said yesterday, Paddy confirmed to the club weeks ago he is going to continue playing when he can and when it doesnt interfere with Antrim. This talk of Gweedore is pie in the sky stuff.
He has kids and is currently building a house FFS
But its no surprise that Glens Abu and Man Marker want to try and make a story out of anything Paddy does. Serious gripe you men have I tell you.

I don't think there is an agenda with Paddy, it's more of being able to serve 2/3 masters as it seems it is. I don't know what it is like in Derry, but I'd imagine that if your current county manager said he was involved with one club and his righthand man will be looking after 2 other clubs that it would be fine with yous also.....

Things are different in Derry I presume
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on December 04, 2013, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Could anyone post the article in the IN were Paddy confirmed he is taking Gweedore because I read it earlier and didnt see it!
As I said yesterday, Paddy confirmed to the club weeks ago he is going to continue playing when he can and when it doesnt interfere with Antrim. This talk of Gweedore is pie in the sky stuff.
He has kids and is currently building a house FFS
But its no surprise that Glens Abu and Man Marker want to try and make a story out of anything Paddy does. Serious gripe you men have I tell you.

In which case having 3 'paymasters' would come in extremely handy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on December 04, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
I think Bannside that you are missing the point-Baker connot loose as it has been said that Antrim are at an all time low and hopefully for Antrim the only way is up. Baker is very tactically naive which has been proven at all the clubs he has been at.He has brought Paddy along to put him in the shop window so when Antrim have gained promotion in 2014 Paddy will be able to step on to the managerial gravy train doing the rounds. Make no mistake about that Baker and Paddy could not give a toss about Antrim - it is all about them and their status and what they can get out of it.

Bannside - exactly what is this expansive style of play that you are referring to 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
I,ve said this before-bakers sole tactic was to play a sweeper.Antrims success was largely down to Terry O'Neill being able to play it so effectively.Other teams caught onto this but Antrim contjnued on without a plan b.I,d have expected adams/madden to be more astute but lets just hope paddyb has learned  a little along the way.if hes half as good a coach as he was a player then antrim will benefit,if not then we could be in trouble.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 04, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Could anyone post the article in the IN were Paddy confirmed he is taking Gweedore because I read it earlier and didnt see it!
As I said yesterday, Paddy confirmed to the club weeks ago he is going to continue playing when he can and when it doesnt interfere with Antrim. This talk of Gweedore is pie in the sky stuff.
He has kids and is currently building a house FFS
But its no surprise that Glens Abu and Man Marker want to try and make a story out of anything Paddy does. Serious gripe you men have I tell you.

Yeah I do have a problem with a man who has walked out on his OWN county twice when the going got tough so worry about him being involved with my county.If you get your INews again and look at top right hand of page 61 you will read what you can't believe and think is pie in the sky.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 03:32:36 PM
You know what, your probably right. Its all about the money. I'd say both are cleaning up. Sure I heard Paddy only started the house when he heard the Antrim job was confirmed. No mortgage needed 
The Baker is cruising round in a new Merc the last few weeks to. Its all adding up now  :)
Dont have the IN at hand. So Paddy confirmed this did he?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 04, 2013, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 03:32:36 PM
You know what, your probably right. Its all about the money. I'd say both are cleaning up. Sure I heard Paddy only started the house when he heard the Antrim job was confirmed. No mortgage needed 
The Baker is cruising round in a new Merc the last few weeks to. Its all adding up now  :)
Dont have the IN at hand. So Paddy confirmed this did he?

oK Paddy are you telling us you are not going to help Cassidy as I will believe it from the horses mouth rather than believe what is in IN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2013, 03:57:29 PM
Oneclubonelife. Not hard to imagine what "more" expansive might look like.

For a start I don't ever want to see an Antrim team in the position of being four or five points behind, with ten minutes left to play - and its a case of "find the forward"with 12 or 13 men still BEHIND the ball.

Unfortunately that's what we have been seeing too much of in recent years and not only does it rarely win matches, but its very hard to watch. Open things up a bit and if we go down its with our swords held high.

There needs to be enough targets to hit, and support play which allows us to do more damage in THEIR half of the pitch.

Does that sound fair enough?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 04, 2013, 03:57:29 PM
Oneclubonelife. Not hard to imagine what "more" expansive might look like.

For a start I don't ever want to see an Antrim team in the position of being four or five points behind, with ten minutes left to play - and its a case of "find the forward"with 12 or 13 men still BEHIND the ball.

Unfortunately that's what we have been seeing too much of in recent years and not only does it rarely win matches, but its very hard to watch. Open things up a bit and if we go down its with our swords held high.

There needs to be enough targets to hit, and support play which allows us to do more damage in THEIR half of the pitch.

Does that sound fair enough?

Unless all our lads can win their own ball when it's been put into them then we will get hammered by the defensive minded teams in Ulster, the big man up front could end up getting swamped by defenders and not get the ball off early to the supporting players.

It's a bollix in fairness but we are years behind beating a system like that. Glenswilly used it well this year came up short in the end but with Murphy able to win his own ball hold it up and create passes or fouls ;) we'd need to find a player like that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on December 04, 2013, 05:15:25 PM
The best I can do is get you his number Glens. Best that way anyway. Sort out your differences instead of constantly coming on here to slate the man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 04, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on December 04, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
I think Bannside that you are missing the point-Baker connot loose as it has been said that Antrim are at an all time low and hopefully for Antrim the only way is up. Baker is very tactically naive which has been proven at all the clubs he has been at.He has brought Paddy along to put him in the shop window so when Antrim have gained promotion in 2014 Paddy will be able to step on to the managerial gravy train doing the rounds. Make no mistake about that Baker and Paddy could not give a toss about Antrim - it is all about them and their status and what they can get out of it.

Bannside - exactly what is this expansive style of play that you are referring to
I like your style man.  If (inept) Baker and Boy are not good enough for Derry, there not good enough for us.  The article in the IN today is an absolute laugh.  He does not mind the students play for the universities as long as they don't play against Antrim.  He is obviously worried they (the students) are potential scoring machines with the potential to beat Antrim, because we have a panel of such prolific scorers!  What's our average per game, about 9 points?

As regard grooming Paddy for when Antrim get promotion out of Div. 4, getting out of Div. 4 is not a given, believe me!  There are many who believe the only way is UP for Antrim football, I am just pleased there is no Div. 5.  With this management team I despair, no tactical knowhow-diversity, no vision, no desire to change things around, no influx of new blood, Scullion and a few others passed there sell by, but hey, the new Merc will facilitate a quick get away from Creggan.   Vvvvrrrrmmmmm  ;D  Equally, that 2nd option of Adams and Madden not much of an alternative.  But they haven't gone away ya know  ;) ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2013, 10:39:58 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 04, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on December 04, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
I think Bannside that you are missing the point-Baker connot loose as it has been said that Antrim are at an all time low and hopefully for Antrim the only way is up. Baker is very tactically naive which has been proven at all the clubs he has been at.He has brought Paddy along to put him in the shop window so when Antrim have gained promotion in 2014 Paddy will be able to step on to the managerial gravy train doing the rounds. Make no mistake about that Baker and Paddy could not give a toss about Antrim - it is all about them and their status and what they can get out of it.

Bannside - exactly what is this expansive style of play that you are referring to
I like your style man.  If (inept) Baker and Boy are not good enough for Derry, there not good enough for us.  The article in the IN today is an absolute laugh.  He does not mind the students play for the universities as long as they don't play against Antrim.  He is obviously worried they (the students) are potential scoring machines with the potential to beat Antrim, because we have a panel of such prolific scorers!  What's our average per game, about 9 points?

As regard grooming Paddy for when Antrim get promotion out of Div. 4, getting out of Div. 4 is not a given, believe me!  There are many who believe the only way is UP for Antrim football, I am just pleased there is no Div. 5.  With this management team I despair, no tactical knowhow-diversity, no vision, no desire to change things around, no influx of new blood, Scullion and a few others passed there sell by, but hey, the new Merc will facilitate a quick get away from Creggan.   Vvvvrrrrmmmmm  ;D  Equally, that 2nd option of Adams and Madden not much of an alternative.  But they haven't gone away ya know  ;) ???
Memory a bit short ref.........do u forget those heady days of a few years back when the Baker led us to back to back promotion, from the depths of four onward to the second grade............or the trip to Clones to an Ulster final, and a trail which led to Tullamore and a thrilling game against the Kingdom............?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 05, 2013, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 04, 2013, 10:39:58 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 04, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on December 04, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
I think Bannside that you are missing the point-Baker connot loose as it has been said that Antrim are at an all time low and hopefully for Antrim the only way is up. Baker is very tactically naive which has been proven at all the clubs he has been at.He has brought Paddy along to put him in the shop window so when Antrim have gained promotion in 2014 Paddy will be able to step on to the managerial gravy train doing the rounds. Make no mistake about that Baker and Paddy could not give a toss about Antrim - it is all about them and their status and what they can get out of it.

Bannside - exactly what is this expansive style of play that you are referring to
I like your style man.  If (inept) Baker and Boy are not good enough for Derry, there not good enough for us.  The article in the IN today is an absolute laugh.  He does not mind the students play for the universities as long as they don't play against Antrim.  He is obviously worried they (the students) are potential scoring machines with the potential to beat Antrim, because we have a panel of such prolific scorers!  What's our average per game, about 9 points?

As regard grooming Paddy for when Antrim get promotion out of Div. 4, getting out of Div. 4 is not a given, believe me!  There are many who believe the only way is UP for Antrim football, I am just pleased there is no Div. 5.  With this management team I despair, no tactical knowhow-diversity, no vision, no desire to change things around, no influx of new blood, Scullion and a few others passed there sell by, but hey, the new Merc will facilitate a quick get away from Creggan.   Vvvvrrrrmmmmm  ;D  Equally, that 2nd option of Adams and Madden not much of an alternative.  But they haven't gone away ya know  ;) ???
Memory a bit short ref.........do u forget those heady days of a few years back when the Baker led us to back to back promotion, from the depths of four onward to the second grade............or the trip to Clones to an Ulster final, and a trail which led to Tullamore and a thrilling game against the Kingdom............?????
A cold fact of life man, YOU get NOTHING for being 2nd ;) Two things that don't last in tis life man, dogs that chase cars and footballers playing under BAKER!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 05, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 04, 2013, 03:57:29 PM
Oneclubonelife. Not hard to imagine what "more" expansive might look like.

For a start I don't ever want to see an Antrim team in the position of being four or five points behind, with ten minutes left to play - and its a case of "find the forward"with 12 or 13 men still BEHIND the ball.

Unfortunately that's what we have been seeing too much of in recent years and not only does it rarely win matches, but its very hard to watch. Open things up a bit and if we go down its with our swords held high.

There needs to be enough targets to hit, and support play which allows us to do more damage in THEIR half of the pitch.

Does that sound fair enough?

Unless all our lads can win their own ball when it's been put into them then we will get hammered by the defensive minded teams in Ulster, the big man up front could end up getting swamped by defenders and not get the ball off early to the supporting players.

It's a bollix in fairness but we are years behind beating a system like that. Glenswilly used it well this year came up short in the end but with Murphy able to win his own ball hold it up and create passes or fouls ;) we'd need to find a player like that.
I have thought for years that antrim play too many hanky ball players up front .Top teams like Donegal can only afford to play 1 or 2.Even this years ulster champions Monaghan are a big powerful unit.Ballwinners up front should be the norm and not the exception,even if we have to convert midfielders or backs into these positions[one of pete mc graths a.i winning teams had 11 fellas who played midfield for their clubs].
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
I,ve said this before-bakers sole tactic was to play a sweeper.Antrims success was largely down to Terry O'Neill being able to play it so effectively.Other teams caught onto this but Antrim contjnued on without a plan b.I,d have expected adams/madden to be more astute but lets just hope paddyb has learned  a little along the way.if hes half as good a coach as he was a player then antrim will benefit,if not then we could be in trouble.
some tactic indeed, took us to an ulster final, back to back promotions, and a trip to tullamore for an all ireland quarter final (in which we scared the proverbial s**t outa the kingdom............possibly a smidgeon of bias in ur post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 08, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
I,ve said this before-bakers sole tactic was to play a sweeper.Antrims success was largely down to Terry O'Neill being able to play it so effectively.Other teams caught onto this but Antrim contjnued on without a plan b.I,d have expected adams/madden to be more astute but lets just hope paddyb has learned  a little along the way.if hes half as good a coach as he was a player then antrim will benefit,if not then we could be in trouble.
some tactic indeed, took us to an ulster final, back to back promotions, and a trip to tullamore for an all ireland quarter final (in which we scared the proverbial s**t outa the kingdom............possibly a smidgeon of bias in ur post.

Ah happy memories. Plus don't forget we got to an AI U-21 football final in 1974.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 08, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 08, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
I,ve said this before-bakers sole tactic was to play a sweeper.Antrims success was largely down to Terry O'Neill being able to play it so effectively.Other teams caught onto this but Antrim contjnued on without a plan b.I,d have expected adams/madden to be more astute but lets just hope paddyb has learned  a little along the way.if hes half as good a coach as he was a player then antrim will benefit,if not then we could be in trouble.
some tactic indeed, took us to an ulster final, back to back promotions, and a trip to tullamore for an all ireland quarter final (in which we scared the proverbial s**t outa the kingdom............possibly a smidgeon of bias in ur post.

Ah happy memories. Plus don't forget we got to an AI U-21 football final in 1974.
We should be thankful there is even a Plan A.  - My simple theory about the game, win the win the ball, kick it over the bar or in the net, rake up a score, don't be afraid to shoot, if you don't shoot you don't score.  If you lose the ball, get it back off your opponent, kick it over the bar or in the net.  Simples!  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 10:50:25 PM
All Antrim games home games in football  (with the exception of one, 9th feb) are to be played in Creggan in 2014...........great venue!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 09, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 10:50:25 PM
All Antrim games home games in football  (with the exception of one, 9th feb) are to be played in Creggan in 2014...........great venue!
I suppose the Creggan gate 'clickers' will be taking up strategic positions as the punters flood in.  Sure to keep the Antrim gate men on their toes and improve the count/tally  ;)  I understand they were not too pleased following championship games hosted by Creggan, surprised Creggan got the nod all the same, great venue and all that, but,  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on December 09, 2013, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
I,ve said this before-bakers sole tactic was to play a sweeper.Antrims success was largely down to Terry O'Neill being able to play it so effectively.Other teams caught onto this but Antrim contjnued on without a plan b.I,d have expected adams/madden to be more astute but lets just hope paddyb has learned  a little along the way.if hes half as good a coach as he was a player then antrim will benefit,if not then we could be in trouble.
some tactic indeed, took us to an ulster final, back to back promotions, and a trip to tullamore for an all ireland quarter final (in which we scared the proverbial s**t outa the kingdom............possibly a smidgeon of bias in ur post.
Yeah and what about the relegation and shitty form after everyone worked out how we played each time.selective memory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on December 09, 2013, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 09, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2013, 10:50:25 PM
All Antrim games home games in football  (with the exception of one, 9th feb) are to be played in Creggan in 2014...........great venue!
I suppose the Creggan gate 'clickers' will be taking up strategic positions as the punters flood in.  Sure to keep the Antrim gate men on their toes and improve the count/tally  ;)  I understand they were not too pleased following championship games hosted by Creggan, surprised Creggan got the nod all the same, great venue and all that, but,  :o

Did Creggan catch the county out? Since there is a revenue split, was the county ripping off Creggan, or were the gate men ripping off both club and county :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on December 09, 2013, 10:00:39 PM
Does Creggan's pitch have any seats?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 09, 2013, 10:00:39 PM
Does Creggan's pitch have any seats?

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8bkv1AFv8nXS2mOd61P1ttm4gvFF-Rs8MqqkrAMQ0ituUv-fjeA)

Plenty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on December 10, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
Whereabouts? All i can see is concrete steps.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 10, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
no seats at Creggan and that is for real.....................how many other grounds in the County (with the notable exception of Corrigan) do facilitate their patrons with seated accommodation?.....................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 10, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
no seats at Creggan and that is for real.....................how many other grounds in the County (with the notable exception of Corrigan) do facilitate their patrons with seated accommodation?.....................

Corrigan stand has been closed a few years, whats your point AntrimRealist? does a temporary county ground need seating?


Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 10, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
Whereabouts? All i can see is concrete steps.....

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/me8O0J8Xx8wi9LcKl6nVh8g.jpg)

These are available on ebay if you're stuck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Creggan will do nicely. A great pitch and good to get a few county games out into the SW for a change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Creggan will do nicely. A great pitch and good to get a few county games out into the SW for a change.

Thought it was an excellent venue for the county final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 11, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Creggan will do nicely. A great pitch and good to get a few county games out into the SW for a change.

Thought it was an excellent venue for the county final

why did you not go to Ahoghill  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 11, 2013, 01:43:37 PM
Both great set ups to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 11, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Creggan will do nicely. A great pitch and good to get a few county games out into the SW for a change.

Thought it was an excellent venue for the county final

why did you not go to Ahoghill  ;)

Very similar  ;D as Bannside says both very good venues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:50:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 11, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Creggan will do nicely. A great pitch and good to get a few county games out into the SW for a change.

Thought it was an excellent venue for the county final

why did you not go to Ahoghill  ;)

Very similar  ;D as Bannside says both very good venues

Would there not be a plan to put in some temporary bleacher type seating for some of the patrons requiring this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 11, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:50:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 11, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Creggan will do nicely. A great pitch and good to get a few county games out into the SW for a change.

Thought it was an excellent venue for the county final
why did you not go to Ahoghill  ;)

Very similar  ;D as Bannside says both very good venues

Would there not be a plan to put in some temporary bleacher type seating for some of the patrons requiring this?
Sure that requires thinking, consideration of immobile patrons, foresight etc.  Not in abundance nor
readily available  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 11, 2013, 06:31:08 PM
The matches in Creggan will come and go. Everyone who wants to will see the game. Creggan will comply with all necessary regulations and Antrim shouldnt lose a game there.

At least thats the plan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 11, 2013, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 11, 2013, 06:31:08 PM
The matches in Creggan will come and go. Everyone who wants to will see the game. Creggan will comply with all necessary regulations and Antrim shouldnt lose a game there.

At least thats the plan.
No doubt that Creggan will comply, a great set up and great club, fair play to them!

As for Antrim winning every game there, well, there are no certainties in life, just probabilities  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
I know it doesn't mean a lot but it's a plug on my part, Jackson McGreevey is up for a award Dual Player of the year

He Captained the Under 21 hurling team this year and has played for the seniors a few times also this year he also played right half back for the our senior footballers in the county final (played well also). If you wish to vote it's in the link below (feel like TF now)

http://gaeliclife.com/club-all-stars-dual-player-of-the-year/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
I know it doesn't mean a lot but it's a plug on my part, Jackson McGreevey is up for a award Dual Player of the year

He Captained the Under 21 hurling team this year and has played for the seniors a few times also this year he also played right half back for the our senior footballers in the county final (played well also). If you wish to vote it's in the link below (feel like TF now)

http://gaeliclife.com/club-all-stars-dual-player-of-the-year/

Young Mc Greevey is a prospect and a half indeed, and he will have my vote............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on December 13, 2013, 07:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 10, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
no seats at Creggan and that is for real.....................how many other grounds in the County (with the notable exception of Corrigan) do facilitate their patrons with seated accommodation?.....................

Corrigan stand has been closed a few years, whats your point AntrimRealist? does a temporary county ground need seating?


Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 10, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
Whereabouts? All i can see is concrete steps.....

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/me8O0J8Xx8wi9LcKl6nVh8g.jpg)

These are available on ebay if you're stuck

Milltown Row, my point is that for the county board to have failed to some sort of seating available is pathetic.  No doubt there will be plenty of patrons who wont fancy standing exposed to the elements-a bit of the Casement money going towards contingency whilst Casement was being developed surely isn't too much to ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 13, 2013, 07:19:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 10, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
no seats at Creggan and that is for real.....................how many other grounds in the County (with the notable exception of Corrigan) do facilitate their patrons with seated accommodation?.....................

Corrigan stand has been closed a few years, whats your point AntrimRealist? does a temporary county ground need seating?


Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 10, 2013, 08:10:07 PM
Whereabouts? All i can see is concrete steps.....

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/me8O0J8Xx8wi9LcKl6nVh8g.jpg)

These are available on ebay if you're stuck

Milltown Row, my point is that for the county board to have failed to some sort of seating available is pathetic.  No doubt there will be plenty of patrons who wont fancy standing exposed to the elements-a bit of the Casement money going towards contingency whilst Casement was being developed surely isn't too much to ask.

Where is this Casement money you speak of? The money for the new ground I believe is to redevelop Casement, not distributed around the other grounds ffs.

Lets see before the first Antrim home game if there is seating of some sort, Ballycastle to hold the Hurling games and there isn't much chance of cover up there even in the height of summer, some people wish to complain but have no answer other than to say it's pathetic...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2013, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2013, 08:37:23 PM
Any Gods amount of concrete bleachers in Casement Park not being used.

Sold?? Heard there has been a serious amount of stuff sold off, getting it and putting in Creggan would be a grand idea but I've watch many a County game in Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall even played Tipp ffs, I can't really see the problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
Maybe. They may have even sold stuff which didn't belong to them but that's another story....

The bar? lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 13, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
Maybe. They may have even sold stuff which didn't belong to them but that's another story....
Who is "they"? Where did all the money go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2013, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2013, 10:33:34 PM
The 2 boys that run this county. One describes himself as "I'm 6 foot 4 and 20 stone".

And the other one....................rather short, and the height of nonsence!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 14, 2013, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2013, 10:33:34 PM
The 2 boys that run this county. One describes himself as "I'm 6 foot 4 and 20 stone".

And the other one....................rather short, and the height of nonsence!

Well step up then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
Hypocrisy still alive and well  ;)  It cant be changed from the outside, only from within, now who is stepping up to the plate now??????  ???  Oh, the pathetic rants in search of self gratification  :-[

I'm trying to work out who the babies (diapers) are and who the politicians are around here in Antrim GAA board(s).  Either way in both cases, they need changing, as they are both full of S**T  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2013, 03:21:44 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
Hypocrisy still alive and well  ;)

So is irony it seems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2013, 03:21:44 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
Hypocrisy still alive and well  ;)

So is irony it seems.
An expression of fact and reality  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2013, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
pathetic rants

An expression of the above would be more like it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2013, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
pathetic rants

An expression of the above would be more like it.
Just keeping you inspiring pundits honest  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
But where have all the pundits gone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 21, 2013, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
But where have all the pundits gone?
Watching soccer or continuing their supercilious escapades on other threads.  Some of us are an 'Authority' on everything, not just GAA matters  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 24, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
McKenna Cup Panel according to the IN.

Chris Kerr
Oisin Kerr
Kevin O'Boyle
Ricky Johnston
Dermot McCann
Justin Crozier
Niall Delargy
Tony Scullion
Martin Johnston
Mark Sweeney
Paddy Gallagher
James Laverty
Martin McAleese
Michael McCann
Sean McVeigh
Conal Kelly
Conor Murray
Paddy Kelly
Michael Pollock
Philip Maguire
Tomas McCann
CJ McGourty
Paddy Cunningham
Bam Neeson
Anton Taylor
Aaron Traynor
David McGuckin
Owen Gallagher
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
RTE sport reporting ye have lost Kevin Niblock to Cliftonville, was that expected?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
RTE sport reporting ye have lost Kevin Niblock to Cliftonville, was that expected?

I heard this last week, had been training away with the reserves so not a surprise as he'd said he wasn't going to be with the county this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 30, 2013, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
RTE sport reporting ye have lost Kevin Niblock to Cliftonville, was that expected?

I heard this last week, had been training away with the reserves so not a surprise as he'd said he wasn't going to be with the county this year
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Big loss for county,good luck to him at the reds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 30, 2013, 09:03:12 PM
Nibs definitely a big loss to Antrim. Probably our best winner of "dirty ball". Owes Antrim nothing - hopefully he wont be gone for too long!

Its Cavan on Sunday then. Only the Mc Kenna cup, but would be great to start with a win nonetheless.  Wont be easy though as Cavan beat Meath yesterday in a challenge game, so they wont be short of confidence for their trip to Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on December 30, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
You know how many positions on the county Board were contested at this years annual convention? Zero, as I am sure you can guess.

In fact there are 3 positions not even filled. So honestly, until you are prepared to step up and seek a position, you have no right to anonymous negative on  a discussion board.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2013, 12:29:47 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on December 30, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
You know how many positions on the county Board were contested at this years annual convention? Zero, as I am sure you can guess.

In fact there are 3 positions not even filled. So honestly, until you are prepared to step up and seek a position, you have no right to anonymous negative on  a discussion board.

Who are you replying to??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on December 31, 2013, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on December 30, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
You know how many positions on the county Board were contested at this years annual convention? Zero, as I am sure you can guess.

In fact there are 3 positions not even filled. So honestly, until you are prepared to step up and seek a position, you have no right to anonymous negative on  a discussion board.

Yeah and sit with clowns who are more concerned with their egos than anything else,think football management position and that says it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 31, 2013, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on December 30, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
You know how many positions on the county Board were contested at this years annual convention? Zero, as I am sure you can guess.

In fact there are 3 positions not even filled. So honestly, until you are prepared to step up and seek a position, you have no right to anonymous negative on  a discussion board.

Yeah because Frankie Quinn and Jim Murray are there for the good of Antrim Gaa, they are doing it for the love of Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 31, 2013, 02:49:50 PM
I told ya so, we are obsessed with Blame  :-[

It can only be changed from within, REMEMBER WHAT I SAID ABOUT EMPTY VESSELS  ;D But sure you vitriol's were not even at Convention! (Obviously your respective clubs have more sense)  ::);)  Sad thing remains though, you actually believe you are making a difference  ::) ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2013, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 31, 2013, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on December 30, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
You know how many positions on the county Board were contested at this years annual convention? Zero, as I am sure you can guess.

In fact there are 3 positions not even filled. So honestly, until you are prepared to step up and seek a position, you have no right to anonymous negative on  a discussion board.

Yeah because Frankie Quinn and Jim Murray are there for the good of Antrim Gaa, they are doing it for the love of Antrim
Well big Jim certainly loves the oul county, but I think wee frankie is possibly more in love with the Euros..........and he gets a lot for his troubles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 31, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Why Brendan do you think people have no interest in being on the "board? Traditionally those positions have been well contested!

Its not as if there arnt plenty of top clubmen around!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on December 31, 2013, 10:06:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 31, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Why Brendan do you think people have no interest in being on the "board? Traditionally those positions have been well contested!

Its not as if there arnt plenty of top clubmen around!
Well, as the St. Gals men know, Club is one thing, County is another >:(

All very well talking, actions will always speak louder than words.  Some of you boys should run for County Board, certainly can talk the talk and all that awl melarkey. I fear not of course  ???

Just thinking to meself, this could well be my last years sculling a pint in Casement.  The PD most likely to be my next local haunt  :(

PREDICTION for 2014.  CJ will be lucky if he makes it to the end of the National League (toys out of the pram)  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on December 31, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
Just home from a nice break-always nice to get away for Christmas,away from the humdrum.Well Bannside,hows all around portglenone,team all set for big 2014. See U21's got a tough draw in the ulster. Have the club settled on a new management team for 2014. See Madden away to Dungiven - you seem to be exporting good managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 01, 2014, 08:59:53 PM
James Mc Grath from Slaughtneil is managing us in 2014. He has been no 2 to Damian Barton and John Rafferty in recent years, and was involved with us last year as assistant to Michael Mc Mullan.

Ironically Brian Burns, one of our club members managed them (Slaughtneil) last year. With Kevin now at Dungiven and John Mc Keever at Cookstown yea its fair to say Portglenone has exported a fair number of managers recently.

Ironically Portglenone play Slaughtneil in the first round of the Creggan u-212 tournament too. Think we should get our manager to sign a non disclosure agreement LOL!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on January 02, 2014, 12:36:45 AM
I always wondered about this, why people who wouldn't get near managing their own club senior team, but are welcomed with open arms to manage other clubs. A puzzle indeed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 02, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 02, 2014, 12:36:45 AM
I always wondered about this, why people who wouldn't get near managing their own club senior team, but are welcomed with open arms to manage other clubs. A puzzle indeed.

Puzzle was answered circa 2,000 years ago by the big man who joined us on 25 December:

"a prophet is not without honour except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 02, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 01, 2014, 08:59:53 PM
James Mc Grath from Slaughtneil is managing us in 2014. He has been no 2 to Damian Barton and John Rafferty in recent years, and was involved with us last year as assistant to Michael Mc Mullan.

Ironically Brian Burns, one of our club members managed them (Slaughtneil) last year. With Kevin now at Dungiven and John Mc Keever at Cookstown yea its fair to say Portglenone has exported a fair number of managers recently.

Ironically Portglenone play Slaughtneil in the first round of the Creggan u-212 tournament too. Think we should get our manager to sign a non disclosure agreement LOL!

jesus Bannsie even you should be underage for this !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 02, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
No point being stupid if I dont show it now and again. Well spotted Hoof - even Jamesie Mc Atamney would be eligible at that rate.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 02, 2014, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 02, 2014, 12:36:45 AM
I always wondered about this, why people who wouldn't get near managing their own club senior team, but are welcomed with open arms to manage other clubs. A puzzle indeed.

Or is that open cheque books?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 02, 2014, 05:24:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 02, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
No point being stupid if I dont show it now and again. Well spotted Hoof - even Jamesie Mc Atamney would be eligible at that rate.

probably not  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 02, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 02, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 02, 2014, 12:36:45 AM
I always wondered about this, why people who wouldn't get near managing their own club senior team, but are welcomed with open arms to manage other clubs. A puzzle indeed.

Puzzle was answered circa 2,000 years ago by the big man who joined us on 25 December:

"a prophet is not without honour except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home."

i thought it was "a prophet is respected everywhere, except in his own town and by his own people"
Same thing I suppose!

Typical of this town where everyone's a dickhead!

Glensman if you and hard station fancy goin for a position on county board I'll join that ticket.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 02, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 02, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 02, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on January 02, 2014, 12:36:45 AM
I always wondered about this, why people who wouldn't get near managing their own club senior team, but are welcomed with open arms to manage other clubs. A puzzle indeed.

Puzzle was answered circa 2,000 years ago by the big man who joined us on 25 December:

"a prophet is not without honour except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home."

i thought it was "a prophet is respected everywhere, except in his own town and by his own people"
Same thing I suppose!

Typical of this town where everyone's a d**khead!

Glensman if you and hard station fancy goin for a position on county board I'll join that ticket.
Jesus man, we are desperate but not that desperate  ;D  Even if we are on our knees, would we be required to stoop that low?????  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 02, 2014, 11:34:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 02, 2014, 11:02:18 PM
Refforfree, your reply typifies top level ignorance and delusions of grandeur.
HS, I believe you have taken my last post out of context mate.  I certainly have no delusions of grandeur and would go as far as to say, that I am not shocked by your recent post in reference to the County Chairman FFF'ing and blinding and telling fellow Gaels to FCUK Up.  Totally agree also with your assessment about trying to change things from within.  As I have previously alluded to, it is the only way it will ever happen.  But, bottom line is 'new people need to get in there'  ;)  New people and the right people!   The longer the Status Quo remains, the bigger the mess we will have to repair.

On a point of order, I don't subscribe to or associate within any elitist (holier than now) organisations.  :o

The caveat remains  however, we need to be selective ;) ;) If you know what I mean! We would not be recruiting too many vitriolic, nandy pandy, wishy washy subscribers from Antrim GAA Board ('on here' as they say!).  By the way, the only Knights I am familiar with is night shifts!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 03, 2014, 11:46:51 AM
Antrim line up for this Sundays McKenna Cup game against Cavan:

1. Chris Kerr – St Galls
2. Kevin O'Boyle – Cargin
3. Ricky Johnston – Creggan
4. Nial Delargy – Portglenone
5. Tony Scullion – Cargin
6. Mark Sweeney – St Judes (Ath Claith)
7. Justin Crozier – Cargin
8. Michael McCann – Cargin
9. Sean McVeigh – All Saints Ballymena
10. Conor Murray – Lamh Dhearg
11. Michael Pollock – St Galls
12. Tomas McCann – Cargin
13. CJ McGourty – St Galls
14. Owen Gallagher – Glenavy
15. Anton Taylor – St Teresas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 03, 2014, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 03, 2014, 11:46:51 AM
Antrim line up for this Sundays McKenna Cup game against Cavan:

1. Chris Kerr – St Galls
2. Kevin O'Boyle – Cargin
3. Ricky Johnston – Creggan
4. Nial Delargy – Portglenone
5. Tony Scullion – Cargin
6. Mark Sweeney – St Judes (Ath Claith)
7. Justin Crozier – Cargin
8. Michael McCann – Cargin
9. Sean McVeigh – All Saints Ballymena
10. Conor Murray – Lamh Dhearg
11. Michael Pollock – St Galls
12. Tomas McCann – Cargin
13. CJ McGourty – St Galls
14. Owen Gallagher – Glenavy
15. Anton Taylor – St Teresas
Is this the demise of the basketball St. Galls players!  Only three, and one surely not likely to last the NL campaign.  Ah well, fresh blood, that a positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 02, 2014, 11:03:11 PM
Plus, I'm not joining the Knights.
;)

I'm surprised at you HS, replying to WUM's isn't your style  tut tut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 03, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
Dear, deary me, disharmony in the camp  ;) ;D.

Very indicative of Antrim wannabes  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 04, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2014, 12:29:30 AM
Is there anything within Antrim GAA that is without disharmony in the camp?
We've been taught well.
Ah sure HS, all part of our blame culture and mentality, we thrive on disharmony and the constant begrudging, sure what would some of theses imposters/fcukwits have to talk about, eh?  Sure if not Antrim football, Rugby, Man Utd. Nelson Mandela - as I previously alluded to, some think they are an authority on everything!   ;)  Sad thing though, they purport to be intelligent persons!   :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2014, 04:30:02 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 03, 2014, 11:46:51 AM
Antrim line up for this Sundays McKenna Cup game against Cavan:

1. Chris Kerr – St Galls
2. Kevin O'Boyle – Cargin
3. Ricky Johnston – Creggan
4. Nial Delargy – Portglenone
5. Tony Scullion – Cargin
6. Mark Sweeney – St Judes (Ath Claith)
7. Justin Crozier – Cargin
8. Michael McCann – Cargin
9. Sean McVeigh – All Saints Ballymena
10. Conor Murray – Lamh Dhearg
11. Michael Pollock – St Galls
12. Tomas McCann – Cargin
13. CJ McGourty – St Galls
14. Owen Gallagher – Glenavy
15. Anton Taylor – St Teresas

I take it Niall McKeever will be back in the panel after the McKenna Cup is over, anyone seen him play for the Poly lately?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 04, 2014, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 04, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2014, 12:29:30 AM
Is there anything within Antrim GAA that is without disharmony in the camp?
We've been taught well.
Ah sure HS, all part of our blame culture and mentality, we thrive on disharmony and the constant begrudging, sure what would some of theses imposters/fcukwits have to talk about, eh?  Sure if not Antrim football, Rugby, Man Utd. Nelson Mandela - as I previously alluded to, some think they are an authority on everything!   ;)  Sad thing though, they purport to be intelligent persons!   :o
Ach it's only discussion. Nothing is discussed here that isn't being discussed in any social environment all over the country. No harm in it. I don't think anyone tries to pretend they know everything about everything but everyone has their opinions on a wide range of different topics and this is merely a vehicle to express them. Nobody (I think) believes that anything they post on here is going to change the world one iota. Just like nothing that is said about horse racing in a Sean Graham's bookies is going to change the result of the Champion Hurdle. It doesn't mean you can't talk about it.

It's a bit of craic. No more, no less.
Totally concur HS.  You seem like a clever and intelligent guy!  Antrim could do with individuals such as yourself, prepared to speak his mind, call a spade a spade, the sort of guy I could work with.  I am not bs'ing you either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
FFS get a tent

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VXNWSr1UpT4/S8wwSbK3FfI/AAAAAAAAC08/wNbZrmWIRqY/s1600/Brokeback+Mountain+12.JPG)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 04, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
Cavan finished 2013 season strongly and we were the exact opposite. Cavan beat Meath comfortably last week. They won Ulster U 21s and have a settled team and manager.

They have improved and we have been in disarray. Having said that we beat them in the first match in last years NFL div3, but they kicked on after that and we imploded.

So on those grounds alone I would gladly settle for being competitive tomorrow and would take a draw as a very satisfactory start. Good luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 04, 2014, 10:10:20 PM
Those who act with impunity, hhhmmmm!  least said I suppose, but my identity and integrity is still intact  ;) :)

St. Galls most successful failure I am led to believe, how ironic!  ;D  Such an insignificant little runt, cant  image he is holding court on an anything to do with Antrim thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 12:34:49 PM
So many positive posters here now, and their ability to construct decent debates with others is commendable. In fact they wouldn't be out of place on the Hogan Stand or the Antrim gaa website. I cant wait to see the many smiley faces and clever wit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 05, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
Antrim 0-12 Cavan 3-12
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
Attacking, open and expansive football my henrys!  Absolute Sh**e, diabolical in fact.  Baker and Paddy, should, rip up the plan, feck off like the crows back to Deery.  Fundamental school boy errors, Antrim get a nose bleed when they get to the middle of the park, afraid to shoot, start playing the St. Galls basketball/throw ball.  Seems nothing has changed, noting learned, fecking unbelievable!  Well, maybe not so unbelievable  >:( :( :o ??? :-[

Thon Creggan is some set up.  Will we all (Belfast clubs) be wanting a share (££££££££sssssss) of it if they ever move or re-develop, just like Casement?


And here, don't any of you boyos be confusing contributing to a debate as opposed to expressing an opinion, dangerous ground indeed!
You'll not last too long on here if the underhand and devious selective few have their manipulative way.  Reminds me of living in the West/Falls.  Do do as we do, do as we say  ::) aye, like feck  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 05, 2014, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
Attacking, open and expansive football my henrys!  Absolute Sh**e, diabolical in fact.  Baker and Paddy, should, rip up the plan, feck off like the crows back to Deery.  Fundamental school boy errors, Antrim get a nose bleed when they get to the middle of the park, afraid to shoot, start playing the St. Galls basketball/throw ball.  Seems nothing has changed, noting learned, fecking unbelievable!  Well, maybe not so unbelievable  >:( :( :o ??? :-[

Thon Creggan is some set up.  Will we all (Belfast clubs) be wanting a share (££££££££sssssss) of it if they ever move or re-develop, just like Casement?


And here, don't any of you boyos be confusing contributing to a debate as opposed to expressing an opinion, dangerous ground indeed!
You'll not last too long on here if the underhand and devious selective few have their manipulative way.  Reminds me of living in the West/Falls.  Do do as we do, do as we say  ::) aye, like feck  ???

Ffs a clown like you wouldn't last 5 mins in the West.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 05:03:15 PM
I've seen him

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVTeEz0n9EoZPQixnFqvSMC4y3DFdRY_lD1KBII4ppJqKpmO0y)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 05, 2014, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 05:03:15 PM
I've seen him

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVTeEz0n9EoZPQixnFqvSMC4y3DFdRY_lD1KBII4ppJqKpmO0y)

That's the one. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 05, 2014, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
Attacking, open and expansive football my henrys!  Absolute Sh**e, diabolical in fact.  Baker and Paddy, should, rip up the plan, feck off like the crows back to Deery.  Fundamental school boy errors, Antrim get a nose bleed when they get to the middle of the park, afraid to shoot, start playing the St. Galls basketball/throw ball.  Seems nothing has changed, noting learned, fecking unbelievable!  Well, maybe not so unbelievable  >:( :( :o ??? :-[

Thon Creggan is some set up.  Will we all (Belfast clubs) be wanting a share (££££££££sssssss) of it if they ever move or re-develop, just like Casement?


And here, don't any of you boyos be confusing contributing to a debate as opposed to expressing an opinion, dangerous ground indeed!
You'll not last too long on here if the underhand and devious selective few have their manipulative way.  Reminds me of living in the West/Falls.  Do do as we do, do as we say  ::) aye, like feck  ???

Ffs a clown like you wouldn't last 5 mins in the West.
Have lived in the West all my life and still do. However, I know the difference between assh**** and nobh****. St. Galls evidently have more than their fare share of them. McGourtys, -'Me'Keowns, Sheehuns, - opportunists all. Not like the decent folk in St. GALLS.  All clubs have their warts and carbucles though, my ow club included.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
WUM merchant. Won't be long......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
WUM merchant. Won't be long......
He he. The M in WUM stands for Merchant, ya eejit.

I stutter, told you that before ya eejit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Strike a nerve close to home? You should not take things/opinions too personal despite there accuracy.  Good for the goose and all that!  Go on sure, let others see your repetitive vindictive nature in which you are notorious fore. HITLER springs to mind. Continue with your little empire struggle, try to remain anonymous but I know how much of a little bald headed manipulator you are.  ;)   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 05, 2014, 07:31:28 PM
That was a cold stand at creggan today. Cavan starting this season were they left off last year. Very fit and well drilled, willing runners coming off the shoulder constantly, attacking and shooting with conviction. Antrim, very, very early days but some players haven't come on much. Gallagher at ff was terrible and then moved to wing hf and didn't do any better. Brother did better when he came on for kobo . Murray on the ball was ok but off the ball didn't bother covering his man at all and with Cavan running at Antrim defence this was a disaster. Got moved to the other wing for a while to see how much space he could give to that hb. Mick and Sean did ok in middle but when we won the ball we were all at sea, with little or no ideas how to penetrate an average enough defence. Young delargy did ok at cb but was left very exposed at times with 2v1 coming from Cavan runners. Kerr had no chance with the goals and kick out we're solid. Up front we were awful. Niblock was the best on show but the lack of movement and intelligent running by those around him forced too many turnovers. Paddy Kelly did well when he came on, physical presence at the edge of the square before moved out to bulk up middle. Bam looked hungry but arrived on very late on.
It's very early days but wasn't what Baker would have wanted for the first run out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 05, 2014, 07:32:52 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Strike a nerve close to home? You should not take things/opinions too personal despite there accuracy.  Good for the goose and all that!  Go on sure, let others see your repetitive vindictive nature in which you are notorious fore. HITLER springs to mind. Continue with your little empire struggle, try to remain anonymous but I know how much of a little bald headed manipulator you are.  ;)   

Jesus you have it bad for St Galls,prob the reason why Antrim have so many problems.I would want my county to win so much I would never think like you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Strike a nerve close to home? You should not take things/opinions too personal despite there accuracy.  Good for the goose and all that!  Go on sure, let others see your repetitive vindictive nature in which you are notorious fore. HITLER springs to mind. Continue with your little empire struggle, try to remain anonymous but I know how much of a little bald headed manipulator you are.  ;)   

You're doing rightly, staying on a wee bit longer than before, hmmm bald head, that's the best you can do? and only one smiley, come on you're better than that, seen you coming out of the Rock earlier with you're friend


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREL4JUMF-UX1SwoIkNkmjYwvY7-L3SqSuc4cUIsOXrJvc0v715aA)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 07:54:10 PM
Feckin hilarious and rivetting, just like your posts and your teaching ability. Ability (in the singular I may add).
Now do yourself a favour and grow up before it really gets embarrassing,   :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 07:54:10 PM
Feckin hilarious and rivetting, just like your posts and your teaching ability. Ability (in the singular I may add).
Now do yourself a favour and grow up before it really gets embarrassing,   :-X

Grow up? you're the one throwing the insults, not surprised though as you've nowt sensible to talk about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
So you do not lambast, ridicule, agitate, slag off, criticise others. That's like the school bully who also states he does not tell lies. A rite wee hypocrite me thinks.  Dint be acting like the spoilt child because some has a different opinion than you. That's what makes us unique and interesting. The wee man syndrome is extremely prevalent.

As an aspiring Referee you should be a little more open minded with an acceptance of diversity.  Now if you have to, do what you need to do, win your little war, maintain your notorious status and continue to propogate vitriolic negative spin. Hasta la vista baby  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
So you do not lambast, ridicule, agitate, slag off, criticise others. That's like the school bully who also states he does not tell lies. A rite wee hypocrite me thinks.  Dint be acting like the spoilt child because some has a different opinion than you. That's what makes us unique and interesting. The wee man syndrome is extremely prevalent.

In you're 60 odd posts you've done the following, lambast, ridicule, agitate, slag off, criticise. That's a 100% of the stuff you claim I've done, now are you a positive person or not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 08:34:06 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
So you do not lambast, ridicule, agitate, slag off, criticise others. That's like the school bully who also states he does not tell lies. A rite wee hypocrite me thinks.  Dint be acting like the spoilt child because some has a different opinion than you. That's what makes us unique and interesting. The wee man syndrome is extremely prevalent.

As an aspiring Referee you should be a little more open minded with an acceptance of diversity.  Now if you have to, do what you need to do, win your little war, maintain your notorious status and continue to propogate vitriolic negative spin. Hasta la vista baby  :P

Check out this site, I hope it helps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 09:06:27 PM
Your gettin personal Faecle Fre*K  ;D  So my drinking habits/haunt and paranoia have been outed  ;)
Lets see who will have the last laugh, not that I am a vindictive person but knowing ur a teacher, happy days ahead, if you catch my drift, feckin magic, this is really going to be fun! hehehe  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 09:06:27 PM
Your gettin personal Faecle Fre*K  ;D  So my drinking habits/haunt and paranoia have been outed  ;)
Lets see who will have the last laugh, not that I am a vindictive person but knowing ur a teacher, happy days ahead, if you catch my drift, feckin magic, this is really going to be fun! hehehe  ;D ;D ;)

Whatever, once you've sorted out your hatred then we can have a wee chat. Think happy thoughts, life gets better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2014, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on January 05, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Strike a nerve close to home? You should not take things/opinions too personal despite there accuracy.  Good for the goose and all that!  Go on sure, let others see your repetitive vindictive nature in which you are notorious fore. HITLER springs to mind. Continue with your little empire struggle, try to remain anonymous but I know how much of a little bald headed manipulator you are.  ;)   

You're doing rightly, staying on a wee bit longer than before, hmmm bald head, that's the best you can do? and only one smiley, come on you're better than that, seen you coming out of the Rock earlier with you're friend


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREL4JUMF-UX1SwoIkNkmjYwvY7-L3SqSuc4cUIsOXrJvc0v715aA)
Is it just me, or is there a likeness of the McGou**** here, well they frequent the rock?  And of course you would know all about the Rock (Rocky  ;))  They have been hanging around that awl farmer down Milltown Row too long.- "who's pickin the banjo here"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on January 06, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
Wow, such a diverse palette for mutton dressed as lamb! Pity about those obvious mistakes!  Stop masquerading as something youre not, whatever infact that might be!

Hail to MR2 and all those dedicated posters! :P :D  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 07, 2014, 10:55:17 PM
We'll any caric? Are we expecting to beat UUJ on Sunday or are they going to try a lot more boys out? Anyone any.insight or opinions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 08, 2014, 11:14:59 PM
HS any word on new manager since Brian has left?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 08, 2014, 11:33:53 PM
I heard a different name tonight, an outsider. Would be very surprised though if it was true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on January 09, 2014, 10:39:26 AM
You have never seen an interview with Tony Donnelly? Really?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 10:52:34 AM
No that won't be it, but not knowing your place has been that mans problem for a while now.

Anyhow optimus is probably goggling away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I did hear Jim Close's name mentioned but that was a right while ago now and haven't heard anything since.

I imagine Beller will have a significant input as he did some great work with them at the latter part of last season.

I heard that a G Adams was taking the team this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 11:15:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I did hear Jim Close's name mentioned but that was a right while ago now and haven't heard anything since.

I imagine Beller will have a significant input as he did some great work with them at the latter part of last season.

I heard that a G Adams was taking the team this year
;D

I laughed as well, only telling you what I heard, can't see it and bit early for April fools
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 11:27:01 AM
No idea why he would leave the Johnnies to come to Rossa of all clubs.

Paddy Nugent taking the boys in Blue now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 09, 2014, 12:14:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 11:46:59 AM
Erm, apparently true..... :o

Really!? hmmmm interesting. Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 09, 2014, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
Has there been a fallout at Corrigan?

I thought they were happy with Gearoid?

I had heard that he had had enough himself rather than any drama, but could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2014, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
Has there been a fallout at Corrigan?

I thought they were happy with Gearoid?

I had heard that he had had enough himself rather than any drama, but could be wrong.

You can only tell the same people what you want them to do so many times, eventually they get bored and don't bother. Changing it up every so often is probably the best for club senior teams.

New manager and a new idea here and there, it lifts players at training and generates interest again3/4 years is max now I'd say for most clubs/managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 09, 2014, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I did hear Jim Close's name mentioned but that was a right while ago now and haven't heard anything since.

I imagine Beller will have a significant input as he did some great work with them at the latter part of last season.

I heard that a G Adams was taking the team this year

That's the name I heard also. Couldn't believe it.

Paddy Nugent is the new St Johns manager. Gearoid was always stepping away, but to go to Rossa?!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 09, 2014, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 09, 2014, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I did hear Jim Close's name mentioned but that was a right while ago now and haven't heard anything since.

I imagine Beller will have a significant input as he did some great work with them at the latter part of last season.

I heard that a G Adams was taking the team this year
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That's the name I heard also. Couldn't believe it.

Paddy Nugent is the new St Johns manager. Gearoid was always stepping away, but to go to Rossa?!?



Just a rumour but not a true one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 09, 2014, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 09, 2014, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I did hear Jim Close's name mentioned but that was a right while ago now and haven't heard anything since.

I imagine Beller will have a significant input as he did some great work with them at the latter part of last season.

I heard that a G Adams was taking the team this year
[/quo

That's the name I heard also. Couldn't believe it.

Paddy Nugent is the new St Johns manager. Gearoid was always stepping away, but to go to Rossa?!?



Just a rumour but not a true one

So defo not, is he looking to take a break or maybe one of the SW teams could avail of his services, isn't he teaching up the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 09, 2014, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 09, 2014, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 09, 2014, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 08, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
I did hear Jim Close's name mentioned but that was a right while ago now and haven't heard anything since.

I imagine Beller will have a significant input as he did some great work with them at the latter part of last season.

I heard that a G Adams was taking the team this year
[/quo

That's the name I heard also. Couldn't believe it.

Paddy Nugent is the new St Johns manager. Gearoid was always stepping away, but to go to Rossa?!?



Just a rumour but not a true one

So defo not, is he looking to take a break or maybe one of the SW teams could avail of his services, isn't he teaching up the county?


Teaches in Ballymena
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on January 09, 2014, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2014, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
Has there been a fallout at Corrigan?

I thought they were happy with Gearoid?

I had heard that he had had enough himself rather than any drama, but could be wrong.

You can only tell the same people what you want them to do so many times, eventually they get bored and don't bother. Changing it up every so often is probably the best for club senior teams.

New manager and a new idea here and there, it lifts players at training and generates interest again3/4 years is max now I'd say for most clubs/managers
agree with you totally on this point mr2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
That move would be like Sambo looking after Loughgiel or Glenariff if he were at a loose end ;D

Dick looking after Loughgiel would be a bigger surprise though

PJ looking after Dunloy

Could go on all night with those pair ups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
See your new coach Paddy Bradley talking to the Irish News today, oh I do smell disaster there. Since when did a coach do interviews about a team. You don't see Tyrone's coach doing interviews or Dublin's either about what they are trying to achieve regards their playing style. Monaghans coach hasn't either, infact could any of you tell me who is Monaghans or Tyrones or Dublins coaches are? Unfortunately I think Antrim are in bother with that appointment.

Ah but to tell us what better options HE would have taken than the players who played.Itsall about Paddy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on January 09, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
I've seen a number of coaches do interviews over the years. Absolutely delusional.

As an aside it's nice to have something to talk about rather than whatever gibberish some of the newcomers to this board have decided to engage in. Alcohol is best enjoyed away from the internet lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 09, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
I heard tonight mr Adams accepted the job yesterday but turned it down today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 07:29:22 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:24:01 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
See your new coach Paddy Bradley talking to the Irish News today, oh I do smell disaster there. Since when did a coach do interviews about a team. You don't see Tyrone's coach doing interviews or Dublin's either about what they are trying to achieve regards their playing style. Monaghans coach hasn't either, infact could any of you tell me who is Monaghans or Tyrones or Dublins coaches are? Unfortunately I think Antrim are in bother with that appointment.

Ah but to tell us what better options HE would have taken than the players who played.Itsall about Paddy

Aye Glens that piece of insight was very telling on his own arrogance, I'm sure a few of the players will have noted that comment.

if not they will soon find out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 07:44:35 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:24:01 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
See your new coach Paddy Bradley talking to the Irish News today, oh I do smell disaster there. Since when did a coach do interviews about a team. You don't see Tyrone's coach doing interviews or Dublin's either about what they are trying to achieve regards their playing style. Monaghans coach hasn't either, infact could any of you tell me who is Monaghans or Tyrones or Dublins coaches are? Unfortunately I think Antrim are in bother with that appointment.

Ah but to tell us what better options HE would have taken than the players who played.Itsall about Paddy

Aye Glens that piece of insight was very telling on his own arrogance, I'm sure a few of the players will have noted that comment.

Do you seriously think players are influenced by this thread? ffs wise up if a player has issues with whats said here then he needs his nappy changed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
He said it in the Irish News, not here, are you as stupid as your post implies?

Irish news or any other media device, anyone annoyed at that should get da fcuk out more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
He said it in the Irish News, not here, are you as stupid as your post implies?

Irish news or any other media device, anyone annoyed at that should get da fcuk out more

I agree about players would need nappy changed if they got annoyed about this MR2 but just think if it's the way Paddy is going to continue as a coach criticising players in the Media and saying what he would have done better it will not be long before he has more enemies than friends in the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
He said it in the Irish News, not here, are you as stupid as your post implies?

Irish news or any other media device, anyone annoyed at that should get da fcuk out more

I agree about players would need nappy changed if they got annoyed about this MR2 but just think if it's the way Paddy is going to continue as a coach criticising players in the Media and saying what he would have done better it will not be long before he has more enemies than friends in the squad.

Problem is the McKenna cup has just started, some players/coaches/managers are easy for the hacks to get a few quotes from, takes a smart man to speak to press sometimes, now what we have here is someone who's just on the scene and took a call.

I doubt anyone would be overly annoyed, and will probably be explained better once they met at the next training session
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
He said it in the Irish News, not here, are you as stupid as your post implies?

Irish news or any other media device, anyone annoyed at that should get da fcuk out more

I agree about players would need nappy changed if they got annoyed about this MR2 but just think if it's the way Paddy is going to continue as a coach criticising players in the Media and saying what he would have done better it will not be long before he has more enemies than friends in the squad.

Problem is the McKenna cup has just started, some players/coaches/managers are easy for the hacks to get a few quotes from, takes a smart man to speak to press sometimes, now what we have here is someone who's just on the scene and took a call.

I doubt anyone would be overly annoyed, and will probably be explained better once they met at the next training session

Hope you are right and if that's the case fine,but he also gave an interview to Gaelic Life and named players who took what in his opinion was the wrong options.I just think he should be saying these things to the players in private not in the media.Lot to learn I think and knowing Paddy he will never learn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 08:27:56 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on January 09, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
He said it in the Irish News, not here, are you as stupid as your post implies?

Irish news or any other media device, anyone annoyed at that should get da fcuk out more

I agree about players would need nappy changed if they got annoyed about this MR2 but just think if it's the way Paddy is going to continue as a coach criticising players in the Media and saying what he would have done better it will not be long before he has more enemies than friends in the squad.

Problem is the McKenna cup has just started, some players/coaches/managers are easy for the hacks to get a few quotes from, takes a smart man to speak to press sometimes, now what we have here is someone who's just on the scene and took a call.

I doubt anyone would be overly annoyed, and will probably be explained better once they met at the next training session

Hope you are right and if that's the case fine,but he also gave an interview to Gaelic Life and named players who took what in his opinion was the wrong options.I just think he should be saying these things to the players in private not in the media.Lot to learn I think and knowing Paddy he will never learn.

Yeah, but he'll have to if he wants to get on at this game. Otherwise he'll find closed doors all round and won't get on the "circut"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 09:59:05 PM
Do any of you have this piece in the Irish News were Paddy criticised players. Didnt see the IN but I find it hard to believe. If history is anything to go by the two posters taking issue with this have a history of trying to stir things up were Paddy is concerned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:02:18 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 09:59:05 PM
Do any of you have this piece in the Irish News were Paddy criticised players. Didnt see the IN but I find it hard to believe. If history is anything to go by the two posters taking issue with this have a history of trying to stir things up were Paddy is concerned

Do you not remember what you said Paddy  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Article??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
Article??

Phone your chum Brendy tomorrow and he will read it out for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
Well the fact you dont have the article or cant tell me what was said lead me to believe as i expected.....that its amother cheap shot at the man which is all to easy from behind the safety of a computer screen. Real manly stuff that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
Well the fact you dont have the article or cant tell me what was said lead me to believe as i expected.....that its amother cheap shot at the man which is all to easy from behind the safety of a computer screen. Real manly stuff that

Grow up Paddy ffs and get that ego under control  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:21:19 PM
 :)
Someone who hides behind a computer with a hidden identity who is criticising an individual is talking about growing up   :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:21:19 PM
:)
Someone who hides behind a computer with a hidden identity who is criticising an individual is talking about growing up   :o

Hiding nowhere kiddo,allowed to have an opinion  about you,sure you are going around all the threads to see what people are saying about your latest outburst?Maybe should go back to the Derry thread there are some who love you there  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Thats it. With all these teams I am taking I have all day to scroll websites  :)
I am still waiting on you to post what exactly Paddy said today that is going to have Antrim players so upset?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 09, 2014, 10:30:27 PM
Where is this going?

Don't know some were on discussing The article in the IN today and Paddy isn't happy,think he will have to learn criticism comes with the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:34:53 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Thats it. With all these teams I am taking I have all day to scroll websites  :)
I am still waiting on you to post what exactly Paddy said today that is going to have Antrim players so upset?

See paddy you are paranoid because if you read my reply to MR2 I agreed with him that players would be silly to get upset about your article,but you would need to be careful not to repeat this sort of nonsense on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
I will be sure to remember that. I cant think of anyone better I'd take advice from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on January 09, 2014, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: glensman-derry on January 09, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
I will be sure to remember that. I cant think of anyone better I'd take advice from

Sense at last. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on January 10, 2014, 11:26:39 PM
Ok-paddy/you said something along the lines of "sometimes our boys took the wrong option, if it was me i wouldnt have done that"....not word for word but you get the idea hopefully.
A ridiculous statement to come out with in your first media engagement-he quickly needs to forget that Antrim players dont' need public comparisons drawn between them and their coach. Yes he was a great player but do that sort of thing behind closed doors....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 13, 2014, 02:00:32 AM
Good win v UUJ today, hopefully get the thing up and running properly now for the year ahead.

On another note our own James Loughrey was Captain of Cork today in their McGrath Cup semi final win. Unreal considering he has only been there less than a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 13, 2014, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: Gold on January 13, 2014, 02:00:32 AM
Good win v UUJ today, hopefully get the thing up and running properly now for the year ahead.

On another note our own James Loughrey was Captain of Cork today in their McGrath Cup semi final win. Unreal considering he has only been there less than a year.

Yes, a win's a win, and it's very early days but conceding five goals in two games is a tad concerning?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 13, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
We haven't produced many of the calibre of James Loughrey over the years. Class act and good luck to him.

Good to get a win yesterday - its been a long wait! Great to see big Marty Johnston back at it - a good county career awaits.

Looking forward to Pairc Esler on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 15, 2014, 10:36:30 PM
Decent win tonight...no goals conceded either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2014, 11:06:19 PM
Good display and plenty of pleasing performances. Sean McVeigh carried off with a nasty looking injury. Didnt like the look of it. Hopefully its not the dreaded cruciate. Apart from that a rare and deserved win. Credit where its due to all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on January 15, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
Philip Maguire a class act tonight. Always looking to attack and can convert too. Michael McCann superb at midfield too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2014, 11:46:42 PM
Phil Maguire is flying and top drawer potentially. Great to see
Hope Sean is ok, great heart and great fella
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2014, 11:49:41 PM
Great win btw when did we last beat Down!? 2000?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
Heard an interesting rumour today about 2 junior belfast clubs joining for senior football this year as both are struggling for numbers, anyone else heard this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 19, 2014, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
Heard an interesting rumour today about 2 junior belfast clubs joining for senior football this year as both are struggling for numbers, anyone else heard this?

No.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 19, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
Yes. Eire and mc dermotts apparently amalgamating
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 19, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
Yes. Eire and mc dermotts apparently amalgamating

Yeah that's what I heard myself, if they get everyone pulling together they could be a handy enough side at that level, bit unfair on other smaller clubs though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 19, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
Yes. Eire and mc dermotts apparently amalgamating

Yeah that's what I heard myself, if they get everyone pulling together they could be a handy enough side at that level, bit unfair on other smaller clubs though.

Strange mix of clubs joining together, I've said before, too many clubs in Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2014, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 19, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
Yes. Eire and mc dermotts apparently amalgamating

Yeah that's what I heard myself, if they get everyone pulling together they could be a handy enough side at that level, bit unfair on other smaller clubs though.

Strange mix of clubs joining together, I've said before, too many clubs in Belfast

Your right, so when are you going to fold, can't wait ;D ;D lol just used my first smiley, didn't see those b4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2014, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 19, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
Yes. Eire and mc dermotts apparently amalgamating

Yeah that's what I heard myself, if they get everyone pulling together they could be a handy enough side at that level, bit unfair on other smaller clubs though.

Strange mix of clubs joining together, I've said before, too many clubs in Belfast

Your right, so when are you going to fold, can't wait ;D ;D lol just used my first smiley, didn't see those b4

Going to join up with Lamhs and the Johnnies ;) Rossa can go and fcuk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2014, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 19, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
Yes. Eire and mc dermotts apparently amalgamating

Yeah that's what I heard myself, if they get everyone pulling together they could be a handy enough side at that level, bit unfair on other smaller clubs though.

Strange mix of clubs joining together, I've said before, too many clubs in Belfast

Your right, so when are you going to fold, can't wait ;D ;D lol just used my first smiley, didn't see those b4

Going to join up with Lamhs and the Johnnies ;) Rossa can go and fcuk

It is a strange mix though, only stranger mix I can think of is you boys n the lamhs or davitts n st brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 08:41:26 PM
It is a strange mix alright! Take it they will be playin div 3 then as I think that's what both teams were gonna be playing this year, would there be much red tape in amalgamating at senior level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 08:41:26 PM
It is a strange mix alright! Take it they will be playin div 3 then as I think that's what both teams were gonna be playing this year, would there be much red tape in amalgamating at senior level?

Think you will find the macs got relegated but Eire og got promoted, dunno how it will work, btw our county does red tape better than anyone when they want.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 08:56:21 PM
Did they go down? I thought only Aggies went down and 2 were coming up to make a 10 team league. If it does go ahead I think they could make a handy side, not sure bout Eire og but mcdees always have a few very good players, always thought they were maybe 4 or 5 good players short, I'm sure the og players will give them that bit extra needed to push on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2014, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 19, 2014, 08:56:21 PM
Did they go down? I thought only Aggies went down and 2 were coming up to make a 10 team league. If it does go ahead I think they could make a handy side, not sure bout Eire og but mcdees always have a few very good players, always thought they were maybe 4 or 5 good players short, I'm sure the og players will give them that bit extra needed to push on

Every league was 2 down, they still had 2 play aggies and the game never took place, if aggies had won they would have went above them in the league. Wouldn't put it past the county to let this go though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/his-wife-their-kids-their-life-these-are-his-all-stars-29929308.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/his-wife-their-kids-their-life-these-are-his-all-stars-29929308.html)

Anto finnegan interview with paul kimmage.

A good read. Very sad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on January 20, 2014, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/his-wife-their-kids-their-life-these-are-his-all-stars-29929308.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/his-wife-their-kids-their-life-these-are-his-all-stars-29929308.html)

Anto finnegan interview with paul kimmage.

A good read. Very sad.

Brilliant read. Very, very sad but what an inspiration and such a brilliant outlook on life for whatever length of time he has left.

I hope they've made some sort of misdiagnosis for everyone's sake.

Fair play Anto.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2014, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: orangeman on January 20, 2014, 12:04:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/his-wife-their-kids-their-life-these-are-his-all-stars-29929308.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/his-wife-their-kids-their-life-these-are-his-all-stars-29929308.html)

Anto finnegan interview with paul kimmage.

A good read. Very sad.

Brilliant read. Very, very sad but what an inspiration and such a brilliant outlook on life for whatever length of time he has left.

I hope they've made some sort of misdiagnosis for everyone's sake.

Fair play Anto.

Very tough, his positivity is great to see, played the 7's tournament at their club and just like Anto it was very competitive, was talking to his brother the other day, he's helping with the bike event to Dublin over 300 people have so far signed up for this!! Hopefully a large amount of money will be raised
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2014, 04:39:17 PM
Top man Anto - his courage is inspirational. One of the most popular Antrim players ever, especially amongst his peers and fellow county players. Pound for pound one of our best.

As a gesture of our appreciation it would be good if we could all get a chance to contribute to his charity DeterDMD at some stage, in some way. Anto = Legend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 23, 2014, 01:13:09 PM
So Niall Mc Keever is to captain the Saffron's this year..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
Where have all the pundits gone? Sure I wouldn't hear a thing if it wasn't for all the good souls who keep me up to date on all things Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 08:15:57 PM

Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
Where have all the pundits gone? Sure I wouldn't hear a thing if it wasn't for all the good souls who keep me up to date on all things Saffron.
The Rock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2014, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 08:15:57 PM

Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
Where have all the pundits gone? Sure I wouldn't hear a thing if it wasn't for all the good souls who keep me up to date on all things Saffron.
The Rock
Well that sure would be news............. but are u suggesting that those like residents of the hallowed ground at Milltown take of intoxicating drink. Naw that is too far fetched even for a culchie......................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2014, 11:03:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 08:15:57 PM

Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
Where have all the pundits gone? Sure I wouldn't hear a thing if it wasn't for all the good souls who keep me up to date on all things Saffron.
The Rock
Well that sure would be news............. but are u suggesting that those like residents of the hallowed ground at Milltown take of intoxicating drink. Naw that is too far fetched even for a culchie......................

Not one drop till we win the championship!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 30, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Another one......................sure that would just be greedy. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Those lads are greedy feckers, Cargin will be a lot better next year, the draw should be interesting, I wonder will we be in separate sides!!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 31, 2014, 11:48:05 AM
Antrim team to play Leitrim this Sunday

1.  Chris Kerr (St Gall's)

2.  Kevin O'Boyle (Cargin)
3.  Martin Johnston (Creggan)
4.  Justin Crozier (Cargin)

5.  Tony Scullion (Cargin)
6.  Mark Sweeney (St Jude's, Dublin)
7.  James Laverty (Cargin)

8.  Michael McCann (Cargin)
9.  Niall McKeever (Portglenone, c)

10.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
11.  Michael Pollock (St Gall's)
12.  Paddy Kelly (Portglenone)

13.  Paddy Cunningham (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  Benny Hasson (Rasharkin)
15.  Ronan McGrady (St Brigid's)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 31, 2014, 11:50:37 AM
It'll be interesting to see how Niall McKeever goes this year after his stint in Oz
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
Interesting team - is CJ injured?

Hasson in full forward as a target man I assume.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 31, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
Interesting team - is CJ injured?

Hasson in full forward as a target man I assume.

I think I saw on Twitter the other day that CJ was an injury doubt.  Yeah, I suppose Hasson is in there to win ball...draw a free then Paddy knocks it over and we win 0-10 (9 frees) - 0-9 ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 31, 2014, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 31, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
Interesting team - is CJ injured?

Hasson in full forward as a target man I assume.

I think I saw on Twitter the other day that CJ was an injury doubt.  Yeah, I suppose Hasson is in there to win ball...draw a free then Paddy knocks it over and we win 0-10 (9 frees) - 0-9 ;)

League starts this weekend and CJ goes on a drinking weekend ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2014, 11:47:21 AM
Best of luck to the lads in Saffron today in a tough opening game. Hopefully we have enough to get the points and back up the road. Two points away from home would set us up nicely.

Cant make it to Leitrim as our under - 21`s are playing Derry winners Slaughtneil in the opening round of the Creggan tournament today at 2.30. Hopefully we can prove worthy Antrim champions and give a good account of ourselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 02, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
Beat 1-11to 1-6,that's a very disappointing start to league campaign,any reports on match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 02, 2014, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 31, 2014, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 31, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
Interesting team - is CJ injured?

Hasson in full forward as a target man I assume.

I think I saw on Twitter the other day that CJ was an injury doubt.  Yeah, I suppose Hasson is in there to win ball...draw a free then Paddy knocks it over and we win 0-10 (9 frees) - 0-9 ;)

League starts this weekend and CJ goes on a drinking weekend ::)

Serious ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
What happened? Anyone at it? That was never going to be easy but only seven scores tells a tale of its own.

Portglenone beat Slaughtneil in a thriller, as usual by a point with a great second half comeback in Creggan tournament.  Four down at a stage in the second half, and then we started to play. This team is giving us some great days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 02, 2014, 05:36:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 02, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
What happened? Anyone at it? That was never going to be easy but only seven scores tells a tale of its own.

Portglenone beat Slaughtneil in a thriller, as usual by a point with a great second half comeback in Creggan tournament.  Four down at a stage in the second half, and then we started to play. This team is giving us some great days!

Delighted for you.

Bad start v Leitrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2014, 08:08:33 PM
Thanks Gold. We seem to think we have a right to beat the Leitrims of this world, but Mayo, Sligo and Roscommon couldn't do it these past few weeks. Our away record is abysmal too which dosent help.

And there is no point of anyone looking to start lumping all the blame on Baker or the management team. Once the ball is thrown in its up to the players to deliver. Obviously too many didn't do it. How many can look in the mirror today and say "I did well today". How many won their 1v1`s. How many thought "its only Leitrim"?

Time to lose this condescending attitude that we will sail through division four. Hard hard work might get us there, but nothing less.

We can bounce back from this setback if we keep a cool head. Not a time for panic we can win our four home games and everyone will drop points in this division. Ten points will secure promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 02, 2014, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 02, 2014, 08:08:33 PM
Thanks Gold. We seem to think we have a right to beat the Leitrims of this world, but Mayo, Sligo and Roscommon couldn't do it these past few weeks. Our away record is abysmal too which dosent help.

And there is no point of anyone looking to start lumping all the blame on Baker or the management team. Once the ball is thrown in its up to the players to deliver. Obviously too many didn't do it. How many can look in the mirror today and say "I did well today". How many won their 1v1`s. How many thought "its only Leitrim"?

Time to lose this condescending attitude that we will sail through division four. Hard hard work might get us there, but nothing less.

Quite right u are Bannside sure Baker can only put the team out and the fact that all of the forwards bar one were replaced tells its own tale.

We can bounce back from this setback if we keep a cool head. Not a time for panic we can win our four home games and everyone will drop points in this division. Ten points will secure promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on February 03, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
That had of been Dawson, there would have been soon crying. A very poor result. It is the managers job to make sure the players attitude is right for the game, maybe his misplaced confidence had a negative effect. Results similar to last year already.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 04, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on February 03, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
That had of been Dawson, there would have been soon crying. A very poor result. It is the managers job to make sure the players attitude is right for the game, maybe his misplaced confidence had a negative effect. Results similar to last year already.

Agree with that and althought I had my doubts regarding the Baker return think he should be given a few more games before he is judged,but def needs to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2014, 12:04:07 PM
Fair point Glens. We all have our own opinion on who should manage the county to better things, and Bakers reappointment raised a lot of eyebrows. Some in favour and others preferring the look of some of the alternatives who were in the mix.

But when he has the gig, we need to get behind him. And to be fair the vibes from a lot of the players I spoke to are that its a good set up, and they like Paddys training and so on.

I put this to bed in my head early on. Baker will be judged on beating Fermanagh and getting us out of Division Four. Anything more is a bonus, anything less is not acceptable. And the board will be judged on this too, especially after last years fiasco.

But for a group of players to look so impressive against Down, and so pathetic away from home to lowly Leitrim, would put grey hairs on any manager. Hopefully we will see our true colours on Sunday against Wicklow. Good luck to all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jftj on February 04, 2014, 04:08:43 PM
Once I saw the forward line selected ,I knew our goose was cooked v Leitrim.why not stick with the forwards who are playing well.cj and Tomas were injured but what happened to bam and philly?pollock playing at 11?why?management have to take some flak for that shambles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 05, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
Senior Football C`Ship 2014

Preliminary Rd
1 Naomh Gall V Achadh Eochaille
2 Naomh Tresa V Ros Earcain
3 Clann na hEireann V Ui D Rosa

¼ Finals
A Naomh Eoin v Winner 2
B An Creagan v Garr An Searnoich
C Naomh Pól v Winner 1
D Winner 3 v Lamh Dhearg

Semi Finals
D v A
C v B

Final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 05, 2014, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: jftj on February 04, 2014, 04:08:43 PM
Once I saw the forward line selected ,I knew our goose was cooked v Leitrim.why not stick with the forwards who are playing well.cj and Tomas were injured but what happened to bam and philly?pollock playing at 11?why?management have to take some flak for that shambles.

Agreed. McGrady and Hasson didn't play in the McKenna Cup, yet we throw them into one of our biggest games in the league. Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on February 05, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
Senior Football C`Ship 2014

Preliminary Rd
1 Naomh Gall V Achadh Eochaille
2 Naomh Tresa V Ros Earcain
3 Clann na hEireann V Ui D Rosa

¼ Finals
A Naomh Eoin v Winner 2
B An Creagan v Garr An Searnoich
C Naomh Pól v Winner 1
D Winner 3 v Lamh Dhearg

Semi Finals
D v A
C v B

Final

Cargin Galls final again? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 07, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Only one change for the Wickla game with Conal Kelly replacing the suspended Conor Murray.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2014, 07:28:44 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 07, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Only one change for the Wickla game with Conal Kelly replacing the suspended Conor Murray.

CJ still injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2014, 06:47:15 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 07, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Only one change for the Wickla game with Conal Kelly replacing the suspended Conor Murray.
I think you can take the team announced with a pinch of salt...................certain to be changes, Niall Delargy, Sean Mc Veigh, CJ, and Tomas Mc Cann likely to start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 09, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
Match moved to ahoghill according to Teletext
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 02:51:48 PM
HT Ant 0-5 Wick 1-4. Seems CJ and T McCann did start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 03:10:53 PM
Good start to 2nd half Ant 1-10 Wick 1-6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
FT Antrim 1-13 Wicklow 3-9

Where the f**k do we go from here??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
FT Antrim 1-13 Wicklow 3-9

Where the f**k do we go from here??

Worst team in Ireland   :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 09, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
FT Antrim 1-13 Wicklow 3-9

Where the f**k do we go from here??

Worst team in Ireland   :-[

U obv weren't at the game.

Great match actually.

CJ had pen saved that would've won the game, they then got goal and penalty. Tipsy turvy helter skelter game. 

CJ played v well hitting 6 from play.

Just unlucky. They are decent. I think we were better but we just didn't have the luck.

The ref doesn't have a clue regarding the black card. He gave one to Wicklow but should've given them at least 2 more. Crozier should've had one for us. Tripping and hauling a man back after he's past u are meant tO be black cards. Ref gave yellows when should've been black.

End to end match though, the boys really gave their all.
Just unlucky
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 09, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
FT Antrim 1-13 Wicklow 3-9

Where the f**k do we go from here??

Worst team in Ireland   :-[

U obv weren't at the game.

Great match actually.

CJ had pen saved that would've won the game, they then got goal and penalty. Tipsy turvy helter skelter game. 

CJ played v well hitting 6 from play.

Just unlucky. They are decent. I think we were better but we just didn't have the luck.

The ref doesn't have a clue regarding the black card. He gave one to Wicklow but should've given them at least 2 more. Crozier should've had one for us. Tripping and hauling a man back after he's past u are meant tO be black cards. Ref gave yellows when should've been black.

End to end match though, the boys really gave their all.
Just unlucky

But if we are sitting at the bottom of div 4 then we are the worst in Ireland surely? If Antrim and Baker is serious then we should be top of the league (Div 4 :o) He's had plenty time and been here before and knows a lot of the players and the make up of the clubs and players. Surely with that experience behind him he'd know how to reignite a few wins against teams we should be beating in our own backyard.

Being there would have made no difference to the result I'm afraid, like a lot of Antrim men who didn't turn up it still wouldn't change the result, 3 goals isn't great to let in

Do you think that the black card lost us the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 09, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 09, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 09, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
FT Antrim 1-13 Wicklow 3-9

Where the f**k do we go from here??

Worst team in Ireland   :-[



U obv weren't at the game.

Great match actually.

CJ had pen saved that would've won the game, they then got goal and penalty. Tipsy turvy helter skelter game. 

CJ played v well hitting 6 from play.

Just unlucky. They are decent. I think we were better but we just didn't have the luck.

The ref doesn't have a clue regarding the black card. He gave one to Wicklow but should've given them at least 2 more. Crozier should've had one for us. Tripping and hauling a man back after he's past u are meant tO be black cards. Ref gave yellows when should've been black.

End to end match though, the boys really gave their all.
Just unlucky

But if we are sitting at the bottom of div 4 then we are the worst in Ireland surely? If Antrim and Baker is serious then we should be top of the league (Div 4 :o) He's had plenty time and been here before and knows a lot of the players and the make up of the clubs and players. Surely with that experience behind him he'd know how to reignite a few wins against teams we should be beating in our own backyard.

Being there would have made no difference to the result I'm afraid, like a lot of Antrim men who didn't turn up it still wouldn't change the result, 3 goals isn't great to let in

Do you think that the black card lost us the game?

Black card wasn't correctly used.

They brought on James Stafford~a huge man and put him at ff.

he caught the first ball that came in in his chest and swivelled and scuffed a shot that squirmed into the far corner. He then was fouled for a dubious penalty. Wicklow hoofed ball after ball in to their big ff line. They got the breaks.
We looked v good at times, CJ kicking over score after score on the turn as soon as he got ball. Economy of effort and looked class

Seanie Furlong is a handful for them as is Leighton Glynn.

We worked so hard all over we just started slowly and then were unlucky.

CJ side footed the penalty, I think u should lash them.

Very entertaining match. They had 2 penalties. Both ropey enough calls. First was nearly saved and could've been saved. They scored both. We missed ours. No luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 09, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
I always try and be positive with antrim football but I really didn't see any positives out of today's game. Defensively unorganised, a midfield with no creative ideas although plenty of ball, and apart from cj we looked very poor up front. Easy to blame the management but this group of players have had their chance, and then some. We cough up the ball in every tackle and once again our half forwards were completely lost. Similar to the Cavan McKenna cup game, though against a much more limited opposition in Wicklow. Build with short passing until we get to midfield and then we get stage fright and either turn back or just boot hopeful balls into a very static forward line. Cj was a class apart today, without him we would have been really embarrassed. More ideas when Ryan Murray came on. Big Niall won plenty of ball, but for his size and experience he brings very little penetration. Don't know where baker goes from here, but as some of his back room staff have suggested, he could hardly do worse than bring in a few new faces as some of our more experienced players have shown last season and this, either they don't have the hunger for county anymore or just not the ability.
Tough days ahead for antrim.
Ahoghill was in great shape though bloody freezing. Fair play to the clooney men on good organization and getting on with the job in difficult circumstances.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
I wouldn't fully agree with you rasharkin gael...

Pollock and mccann good in patches too. In the first half there was some good defending. Second half not so much though.pollock offensively mind and could be better tracking.

We have two boys in the centre of defense who are probably out of position. I would prefer to see crozier6, ricky johnston 3 and sweeney at 10. Midfield not mobile enough for this level. Mccann will improve that.

Really we got ourselves to a position we could and should have won from - that penalty went in and i doubt wicklow would have come back.We are traditionally weak at half forwards and it showed second half today with wicklow constantly surging. I think connor murray would improve that and would prefer sweeney further up pitch. Who else i don't know.

Don't get me wrong - very disappointing result but at the very least i hope we have identified places we need to work on and can improve for championship but there were some performances which were positive..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 09, 2014, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 09, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
I always try and be positive with antrim football but I really didn't see any positives out of today's game. Defensively unorganised, a midfield with no creative ideas although plenty of ball, and apart from cj we looked very poor up front. Easy to blame the management but this group of players have had their chance, and then some. We cough up the ball in every tackle and once again our half forwards were completely lost. Similar to the Cavan McKenna cup game, though against a much more limited opposition in Wicklow. Build with short passing until we get to midfield and then we get stage fright and either turn back or just boot hopeful balls into a very static forward line. Cj was a class apart today, without him we would have been really embarrassed. More ideas when Ryan Murray came on. Big Niall won plenty of ball, but for his size and experience he brings very little penetration. Don't know where baker goes from here, but as some of his back room staff have suggested, he could hardly do worse than bring in a few new faces as some of our more experienced players have shown last season and this, either they don't have the hunger for county anymore or just not the ability.
Tough days ahead for antrim.
Ahoghill was in great shape though bloody freezing. Fair play to the clooney men on good organization and getting on with the job in difficult circumstances.
Hear what u say Rasharkin but just who are those 'new faces' to be introduced who are going to light the Antrim fires and guide us through those 'tough days'. We have been quite pathetic at under age for a life time...........when was the last time we made any impact at minor or under-21 level ?Have a look at the club scene in the county and consider how far ahead of the rest are a couple of sides.
Sure we haven't fared at all well in our couple of games thus far but it is without any semblance of doubt that the Bradley's have the full backing of the players and i am more than confident that we will get better.
Incidentally judging on the vast knowledge within Antrim, which is quite evident in the most profound statements made on this site that we will not have to look far to replace the present management.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 09, 2014, 10:29:54 PM
My clubmate has some valid points on the game today but I don't agree with all in his post. I don't agree on your point bumpkin about us being pathetic at underage as being a barrier to finding more talent, as many of the current squad didn't achieve much at underage either.
There's enough points left to push for a good league finish and build for championship and see where the year takes us, I thought CJ and Tomas where plus points up front today and they got some good ball in the second half, 2 great balls in from Tony in particular. The 2 men back for both sides made that a tough task for both sides.  Baker and Paddy have the work to do and there's plenty of time to do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 10:36:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2014, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on February 09, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
I always try and be positive with antrim football but I really didn't see any positives out of today's game. Defensively unorganised, a midfield with no creative ideas although plenty of ball, and apart from cj we looked very poor up front. Easy to blame the management but this group of players have had their chance, and then some. We cough up the ball in every tackle and once again our half forwards were completely lost. Similar to the Cavan McKenna cup game, though against a much more limited opposition in Wicklow. Build with short passing until we get to midfield and then we get stage fright and either turn back or just boot hopeful balls into a very static forward line. Cj was a class apart today, without him we would have been really embarrassed. More ideas when Ryan Murray came on. Big Niall won plenty of ball, but for his size and experience he brings very little penetration. Don't know where baker goes from here, but as some of his back room staff have suggested, he could hardly do worse than bring in a few new faces as some of our more experienced players have shown last season and this, either they don't have the hunger for county anymore or just not the ability.
Tough days ahead for antrim.
Ahoghill was in great shape though bloody freezing. Fair play to the clooney men on good organization and getting on with the job in difficult circumstances.
Hear what u say Rasharkin but just who are those 'new faces' to be introduced who are going to light the Antrim fires and guide us through those 'tough days'. We have been quite pathetic at under age for a life time...........when was the last time we made any impact at minor or under-21 level ?Have a look at the club scene in the county and consider how far ahead of the rest are a couple of sides.
Sure we haven't fared at all well in our couple of games thus far but it is without any semblance of doubt that the Bradley's have the full backing of the players and i am more than confident that we will get better.
Incidentally judging on the vast knowledge within Antrim, which is quite evident in the most profound statements made on this site that we will not have to look far to replace the present management.



Well it can't get any worse
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
It was worse last year. Way worse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 09, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
It was worse last year. Way worse.

Seriously? Carlow and London are below us but that's down to us conceding less. Look I'm not knocking anyone, we are just playing shit, at the start of the second half we changed it around and then proceded to give away two penalties and actually miss one ourselves. Ah sour grapes but it's a bit shit

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2014, 11:14:11 PM
We played better in the first than the second.

It is shit no doubt but it is two games in.

Last year there was no heart or fight in the team at all. Today, despite getting beat, there was some of that. Without that there is no hope and last year we had none of it.

Much to improve on yes but scullion battled, cj is a class act for this level and tomas and pollock have pace to cause defenses problems. Last year that didn't happen. The major downsides were too many runners from half back and midfield untracked and every high ball into defense could very well end up in the net. Not too many as big as that wicklow ff mind. Another two would be the lack of half forwards in the county and that we don't seem to have anyone to put in the ff line who is a forward with presence. (Hasson is not a full forward).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2014, 01:02:54 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 09, 2014, 11:14:11 PM
We played better in the first than the second.

It is shit no doubt but it is two games in.

Last year there was no heart or fight in the team at all. Today, despite getting beat, there was some of that. Without that there is no hope and last year we had none of it.

Much to improve on yes but scullion battled, cj is a class act for this level and tomas and pollock have pace to cause defenses problems. Last year that didn't happen. The major downsides were too many runners from half back and midfield untracked and every high ball into defense could very well end up in the net. Not too many as big as that wicklow ff mind. Another two would be the lack of half forwards in the county and that we don't seem to have anyone to put in the ff line who is a forward with presence. (Hasson is not a full forward).

True we need a FF. What about Dougan or Magill? When we were at our best in div 3 in 2010 Magill was class at ff. We had a real focal point to our attack, not since though.

Hasson isn't a ff. Too meant shit no look hand passes gave away by him and even mckeever, hand passing when it wasn't on. Tony kicked a bad free away which resulted in them getting the winning penalty within seconds. Worked his balls off though.

Tomas was class at times. His goal was as good as any you'd ever see. Flew in at searing pace and buried goal to roof of net with left foot. Absolute rocket. Cracker left footed point from distance too.

Pollock worked hard as fcuk and scored a cracker near end after some hard hard work.

James laverty was impressive I thought and Sweeney turned over some ball, diving and throwing his body on the line. Crozier is better out the field. Mckeever passed off when chances to shoot a number of times, resulting in block downs or turnovers.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2014, 08:38:05 AM
I always thought dougan was very good. I think him, magill or niblock are only 3 options in the county for ff if only any or all were avaiable.

Yeah laverty wasn't bad actually. Sweeney maybe i'm being harsh on but i just think is more the modern half forward.

Not good result but can only get better... Still live in hope.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
Wicklow is a team that we haven't managed to get much joy out of over the last decade their record against us good.  I think we drew with them in Casement with our 09 team, and there has never been much between the sides. Yesterdays game was a much better contest than the fayre served up in Aughrim in Div 3 last year. And to give Wicklow credit, they have a very lively and productive FF line that would cause bother to most county full back lines.

The players selected yesterday emptied the tank and thats all anyone could ask of them.  With ten to go we had the game in the bag, but did we see the winning line and ease off. Thats what I would like to know.

Bakers hand was badly tied yesterday to be fair. A fit Mick and Sean Mc Veigh would have added a bit more craft and steel around the middle where Niall couldnt match their height and power on his own.

I might have taken a chance with Owen Gallagher at MF at some point in the game. His power and straight running pace through the middle might have caused damage. Conor Murrays direct running was also badly missed too, and the physical presence of the Johnstons would have afforded other options too. I also take the view that the three players mentioned (Magill/Niblock/Dougan) would provide badly needed strength in the right places - but thats a hypothetical argument!

This was a game we could/should have won though so its another frustrating morning to be a Saffron. Need to win the next five to have a chance, and based on some of what I saw yesterday, and some of the aforementioned back out, I still think we can win our next five and ten points would still leave us close. Tipp away the fly in the ointment now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 10, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
Wicklow is a team that we haven't managed to get much joy out of over the last decade their record against us good.  I think we drew with them in Casement with our 09 team, and there has never been much between the sides. Yesterdays game was a much better contest than the fayre served up in Aughrim in Div 3 last year. And to give Wicklow credit, they have a very lively and productive FF line that would cause bother to most county full back lines.

The players selected yesterday emptied the tank and thats all anyone could ask of them.  With ten to go we had the game in the bag, but did we see the winning line and ease off. Thats what I would like to know.

Bakers hand was badly tied yesterday to be fair. A fit Mick and Sean Mc Veigh would have added a bit more craft and steel around the middle where Niall couldnt match their height and power on his own.

I might have taken a chance with Owen Gallagher at MF at some point in the game. His power and straight running pace through the middle might have caused damage. Conor Murrays direct running was also badly missed too, and the physical presence of the Johnstons would have afforded other options too. I also take the view that the three players mentioned (Magill/Niblock/Dougan) would provide badly needed strength in the right places - but thats a hypothetical argument!

This was a game we could/should have won though so its another frustrating morning to be a Saffron. Need to win the next five to have a chance, and based on some of what I saw yesterday, and some of the aforementioned back out, I still think we can win our next five and ten points would still leave us close. Tipp away the fly in the ointment now.

They really did empty the tank and that's what people who weren't there wont know. Usually a defeat is compounded by lack of effort but that wasn't the case, everyone put their shoulder to the wheel, we were just unlucky with the breaks. Paddy Heaney put it well in the paper today--some of the scores we had were as good if not better than ive seen from us since 09 or ever, class stuff. They just kept getting break after break--they have a dangerous FF line with a 6ft 7 huge FF. But then our FB line did well too. Bad result but great, entertaining game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 10, 2014, 11:30:06 AM
Cj is a class act on the pitch. Tomas is a good player running onto the ball, but his ability to win ball and break the tackle is just average. Our full back line was left badly exposed again. Against Cavan, our hf line didn't track the runners and our fb line ended up in too many no win scenarios of either following their own man or going to meet the runner. Somewhat similar again against Wicklow.
I would not agree that it was a very good ff line of Wicklows. I thought we made them look good and our half back line ended up just marking space, but was too close to midfield and too far from our back line. c murray is a decent attacking half forward but his work rate off the ball is terrible and would be no addition at this level. Certainly mcveigh and mick back would help but we seem devoid of ideas and guile once we get the ball over our own 45.
While the lads are right in that many players ran themselves into the ground, our mental frailties were evident to see once again. Unable to shut out a game when we were in total command probably the most frustrating thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
When CJ does that on a consistent basis FOR ANTRIM, like every other marquee inter-county forward, on a relatively consistent basis, then I will become a fully paid up member of his fan club. Yesterday reminded us what CJ can do, and hopefully he has the maturity now to kick on, and deliver performances like yesterday on a regular basis. The talent is definitely there - we need some consistency now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2014, 12:09:05 PM
I think yesterday showed us though Bannside that antrim are a much better prospect with him than without him. A few things like workrate etc could be worked on and I suspect he'll face better markers on different days but he showed good vision and scoring ability and hopefully can continue to illustrate this throughout the league.

The biggest concern I would have is that we can build on our midfield and possibly full back line. (Main issue yesterday was high balls) but I don't think we have the clientel for a half forward line to be useful. That aside I think we can do ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on February 11, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
Great to have Niblock back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 11, 2014, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on February 11, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
Great to have Niblock back.


Back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 12, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
Great news. The forward line dosent look the same without him. If we are going to beat Fermanagh and have any sort of crack against Donegal or Derry we could do with a fit and hungry Magill. Thats a process, but needs to happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 12, 2014, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 11, 2014, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on February 11, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
Great to have Niblock back.


Back?

Aye, there was talk he was going to play soccer this year??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Centre half or full forward is the question though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2014, 10:42:33 AM
Kevin could play either. In an ideal world I would have Kevin at 11 and Michael Magill at 14. Both would be considered as our best natural ball winners, and both have the strength to hold and use or break a tackle.

Some may offer a view that Michael Magill has had plenty of chances, but I personally believe he was the stand out FF in the club scene last year. I think he has added a new dimension to his game - a very unselfish user of the ball with Cargin, and more concerned with the team nett result than his own scoring return. If we are to be a threat to anyone we need this aspect of our play improved in the forward line.

Gooch/Jamie Clarke can still be the best forwards on the pitch and possibly score very little. Its a team game and we need a man who can win dirty ball and bring the other players around him into the game. Baker is bound to know that a fit Magill would be a huge asset and I know if it was me I would be trying to get a handle on this as soon as possible. And on the point of club form, surely Mark Dougan with his cruel run of injuries over, has to be worth a place on the panel at the very least.

We seem to have these discussions almost on an annual basis ( thinking of additional players who should be brought in) and for all I know there is a good reason why some of the absent players are not in. But why as a county do we always seem to have more of our quality players missing than anyone else.

Everyone on here could make a case for lots of players who should be good enough to make the team/panel, including (but not limited to) a number of absent St Galls players who have regularly showed they have the quality to play at this level.

The really frustrating thing for me is that as a county we have some great players, but for one reason or another we cant get them all into a settled team at the one time. If we could I would say we would hold our own with,lets say Monaghan for example who won Ulster last year and are in Division two. So while a lot of this can be cynically written off as "hypothetical", there is no doubt that getting the reasons sorted why we miss out on so much quality each year is the biggest problem we need to sort out.

Anyone agree/disagree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 13, 2014, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Centre half or full forward is the question though.

Justin Crozier is one of the best centre backs in Ulster.............just why Baker is following Dawson's lead and continuing to play him in the full back line is beyond me..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2014, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 13, 2014, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Centre half or full forward is the question though.

Justin Crozier is one of the best centre backs in Ulster.............just why Baker is following Dawson's lead and continuing to play him in the full back line is beyond me..........

Agreed on this to a point, not so much a centre back but in the half back wings, we could get other players to play in the corners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2014, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 13, 2014, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Centre half or full forward is the question though.

Justin Crozier is one of the best centre backs in Ulster.............just why Baker is following Dawson's lead and continuing to play him in the full back line is beyond me..........

Crozier is a good player and merits his place on the team but he's not one of the best in ulster. He's still not living up to his potential just yet... If they found him a fixed position then that would help - preferrably in the half back line as that's where he's best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 28, 2014, 09:43:13 AM
See the team listed for Sundays must win game.  Johnston brothers back and Conor Murray back in. Expect to see a decent winning performance that can kick start the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 28, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 28, 2014, 09:43:13 AM
See the team listed for Sundays must win game.  Johnston brothers back and Conor Murray back in. Expect to see a decent winning performance that can kick start the season.

Is McKeever on Sigerson duty??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 28, 2014, 02:35:53 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 28, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 28, 2014, 09:43:13 AM
See the team listed for Sundays must win game.  Johnston brothers back and Conor Murray back in. Expect to see a decent winning performance that can kick start the season.

Is McKeever on Sigerson duty??

Yeah. Hard in training for Sigerson 2015.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 28, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 28, 2014, 02:35:53 PM
Quote from: AQMP on February 28, 2014, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 28, 2014, 09:43:13 AM
See the team listed for Sundays must win game.  Johnston brothers back and Conor Murray back in. Expect to see a decent winning performance that can kick start the season.

Is McKeever on Sigerson duty??

Yeah. Hard in training for Sigerson 2015.

We're a week behind here in the West :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 02, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
Antrim lead 0-13 - 0-3 after 11 mins of 2nd half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 02, 2014, 02:33:10 PM
WooHoo!!

FT: Antrim 1-17 Waterford 0-6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2014, 04:48:28 PM
First win! Didn't make the game but Cj on fire again it seems. Onwards and upwards and hopefully the teams who beat us will get points taken off them too. I think they will.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 03, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
There is definitely the need for more information about this social club situation if what you are saying is true HS. Thats a serious amount of money for a county that's constantly broke. Unless Ulster is backing (covering) their movement on all of this, then at the very least tough questions need to be asked.

On the plus side, two points yesterday. Some good individual performances, with CJ producing two in a row thats the main positive. More of same please.

The rest of the results suggesting ten points should be okay. Then it comes down to scoring difference, and hopefully we wont regret not putting away at least three more goal chances that went astray yesterday. Waterford very poor, no better than a good club team but a wins a win.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 04, 2014, 07:57:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 02, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
Well done to our players and management.

But, by fcuk, our county executive are some shower of cnuts.

Despite previously costing our county £50,000+ for illegally closing Casement Social Club, they have gone and done it again. They have gone against legal advice (which they received only 2 weeks ago) and turned off the electricity. Of course, this hasn't closed the club.

This will, however, present another legal case against our county and another possible loss of money.

A question for Jim Murray & Frankie Quinn - what are you getting out if this, you two scheming shyster cnuts? I hope it's worth it.

Another court battle looming for the cunty board, fcuk me will they ever learn, maybe if it's another 50 or 60 grand out of the clubs pockets people will realise the sh1t these boys get themselves into
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 04, 2014, 05:13:32 PM
Not sure of the facts in this one........but how on earth can the county board close a 'social club'illegally if they own the joint?

Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 04, 2014, 07:57:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 02, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
Well done to our players and management.

But, by fcuk, our county executive are some shower of cnuts.

Despite previously costing our county £50,000+ for illegally closing Casement Social Club, they have gone and done it again. They have gone against legal advice (which they received only 2 weeks ago) and turned off the electricity. Of course, this hasn't closed the club.

This will, however, present another legal case against our county and another possible loss of money.

A question for Jim Murray & Frankie Quinn - what are you getting out if this, you two scheming shyster cnuts? I hope it's worth it.

Another court battle looming for the cunty board, fcuk me will they ever learn, maybe if it's another 50 or 60 grand out of the clubs pockets people will realise the sh1t these boys get themselves into
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 08:57:29 AM
Looking from the outside, if they own the grounds and building, surely they are within their rights to stop it operating on it's premises?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 08:57:29 AM
Looking from the outside, if they own the grounds and building, surely they are within their rights to stop it operating on it's premises?
Of course but there are legal ways of doing so. A landlord cannot just turn up at his house and change the locks saying "fcuk my tenants", can he?

The landlord can dependent on whether the occupier has a lease over the property giving them certain rights.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2014, 09:45:14 AM
They are at the very least bound to have discussed the matter with the rest of the Antrim board and got some consensus on how to proceed with this matter, which was always going to be spiky. Relations between Co board and social club committee have been strained for years.

And on top of that, with the revamp of Casement and the Ulster council involvement in that, surely they needed to appraise Ulster on ongoing matters in relation to how to "evict" the social club tenants legally.

I doubt very seriously that JM and FQ went completely solo on this. Having said that I know very little detail about it, just like the vast majority of paid up members of Antrim GAA. Some more info on the matter would be welcome, but if another potential court case is pending then I can see the reasons why that is unlikely just now.

Surely they have no mandate to act so impulsively on such an important matter, so I would be "hopeful" that there is some official sanction at Ulster level for their actions. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 05, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 09:25:42 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 08:57:29 AM
Looking from the outside, if they own the grounds and building, surely they are within their rights to stop it operating on it's premises?
Of course but there are legal ways of doing so. A landlord cannot just turn up at his house and change the locks saying "fcuk my tenants", can he?

The landlord can dependent on whether the occupier has a lease over the property giving them certain rights.
Considering they have been in court, fined and made to hand over the keys, we'll take it that this particular landlord cannot.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 05, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 05, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 09:25:42 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 05, 2014, 08:57:29 AM
Looking from the outside, if they own the grounds and building, surely they are within their rights to stop it operating on it's premises?
Of course but there are legal ways of doing so. A landlord cannot just turn up at his house and change the locks saying "fcuk my tenants", can he?

The landlord can dependent on whether the occupier has a lease over the property giving them certain rights.
Considering they have been in court, fined and made to hand over the keys, we'll take it that this particular landlord cannot.



The cunty board have just had their ass handed to them on a plate again,.. Court order to turn the electricity back on, after another illegal act.

They had got all the clubs hoodwinked into voting to take legal action against the social club, but instead fcuked it up again by being underhand and cutting the electric, for which they were taken to court this morning and ordered to reverse what they had done.... More legal fees paid out. Serious bunch chancers. I hope the clubs are impressed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
I presume the existing social club committee had some form of 100 year lease or the likes for the Casement park bar?

If so would an appropriate space in the new Casement not appease them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 05, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
I presume the existing social club committee had some form of 100 year lease or the likes for the Casement park bar?

If so would an appropriate space in the new Casement not appease them?

I would imagine in a brand new sparkly 'branded' stadium there would be no room for a social club type area. Too many questions of who owns what a dn bar/ social licenses etc etc etc

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2014, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 03:14:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 03:04:43 PM
I presume the existing social club committee had some form of 100 year lease or the likes for the Casement park bar?

If so would an appropriate space in the new Casement not appease them?

I would imagine in a brand new sparkly 'branded' stadium there would be no room for a social club type area. Too many questions of who owns what a dn bar/ social licenses etc etc etc
I, and I imagine the CSC committee, don't envisage that ever happening either to be honest.
The shiney new Casement will have loads of those wee bars selling pints for 4 pound odds. They don't want a social club knocking them out at 2.80.

And the ability to play snooker and have a wee go on the GG's ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 05, 2014, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
I don't think people playing snooker or watching horse racing would be the issue.

I dont think it is either, but was always a bit of an annoyance in me when a big match was going on outside and yet the bar and snooker table were flat out. I understand that it is social club but never really sat too comfortably that element of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2014, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2014, 03:32:28 PM
I don't think people playing snooker or watching horse racing would be the issue.

I dont think it is either, but was always a bit of an annoyance in me when a big match was going on outside and yet the bar and snooker table were flat out. I understand that it is social club but never really sat too comfortably that element of it.
Why? You do realise that Antrim GAA are generating money from these people, not just on match days but 7 days a week?

Next question;
   Can a social club exist without a link however tenuous to some other sort of organisation, sport, cultural, working mans club etc, etc?
At what point does a social club become a public bar?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
What about the Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo in town (not a joke!!)? Would that be a "social club" without beign attached to anything or what are these "working mens clubs" attached to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
What about the Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo in town (not a joke!!)? Would that be a "social club" without beign attached to anything or what are these "working mens clubs" attached to?

The Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo is a gentlemens club, akin to the Masons, charitable works and all that bumph. I suspect some of those working mens clubs were once part of an industry or large firm, Harland and Wolfe welders and all that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
What about the Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo in town (not a joke!!)? Would that be a "social club" without beign attached to anything or what are these "working mens clubs" attached to?

The Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo is a gentlemens club, akin to the Masons, charitable works and all that bumph. I suspect some of those working mens clubs were once part of an industry or large firm, Harland and Wolfe welders and all that.

Ah right. Just wondering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2014, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
What about the Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo in town (not a joke!!)? Would that be a "social club" without beign attached to anything or what are these "working mens clubs" attached to?

The Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo is a gentlemens club, akin to the Masons, charitable works and all that bumph. I suspect some of those working mens clubs were once part of an industry or large firm, Harland and Wolfe welders and all that.

My old club!! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2014, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 05, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
What about the Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo in town (not a joke!!)? Would that be a "social club" without beign attached to anything or what are these "working mens clubs" attached to?

The Royal Ancient Order of Buffalo is a gentlemens club, akin to the Masons, charitable works and all that bumph. I suspect some of those working mens clubs were once part of an industry or large firm, Harland and Wolfe welders and all that.

My old club!! ;)

Exactly, not a days work in the lot of them..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 05, 2014, 10:39:12 PM
Apparently a few boys have left the panel....................................   :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 05, 2014, 11:14:01 PM
Wtf has this to do with Antrim football?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 06, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Yeah heard Tomas McCann.Colum Duffin  and Conall Kelly have gone from panel,dont like to hear that so early in season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 06, 2014, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: glens abu on March 06, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Yeah heard Tomas McCann.Colum Duffin  and Conall Kelly have gone from panel,dont like to hear that so early in season.

Tomas?? Why? Was one of our best players v Wicklow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 06, 2014, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 06, 2014, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: glens abu on March 06, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Yeah heard Tomas McCann.Colum Duffin  and Conall Kelly have gone from panel,dont like to hear that so early in season.
May be a grain of truth in the departure of Conal Kelly and Colm Duffin'd departure but Tomas, doubt it.

Tomas?? Why? Was one of our best players v Wicklow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
There seems to be real competition for starting jerseys throughout the team despite some recent withdrawals. Conal and Colm might just have been wondering where their game time was going to come from, so its no great surprise that they have decided to put in a big shift for their clubs where they will be the main men.

You have to weigh up your prospects of getting a game. Now that scoring difference looks increasingly important in our division, you cant blame a manager for wanting to keep his main 15-18 players on as much as possible, and do as much damage as they can on the scoreboard. Not much opportunity to "run the bench" and keep squad players happy. Thats the reality.

We should be good enough to help our scoring average on Sunday and with Nibs back, and Kobo & big Niall due soon, I think we can still finish this league strongly. Keep the faith....





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2014, 02:25:51 PM
Depressing :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CD on March 09, 2014, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Carlow scored 3-15?

Jesus Christ.

Thought I was counting incorrectly! Awful result there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 09, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Carlow scored 3-15?

Jesus Christ.
Scored 1-4 in last few minutes to win. Ferm will hammer us in May.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on March 09, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
Come on the Scallion agers!! A win against the head. Antrim will be kicking themselves as they should have won this by ten points. Carlow hung in and sneaked a win at the death and never was a win so badly wanted.
CJ McGourty scored 0-8 and had a couple of goal chances smothered by Andy O Brien in the goal.
A good double for Carlow - Rangers and senior football!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CD on March 09, 2014, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 09, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Carlow scored 3-15?

Jesus Christ.
Scored 1-4 in last few minutes to win. Ferm will hammer us in May.

Fermanagh could be in Division 4 with Antrim next year! They need to beat Offaly and Wexford at home to stay in Division 3. I'd say that game'll be tight enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 09, 2014, 06:33:30 PM
Quote from: CD on March 09, 2014, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 09, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Carlow scored 3-15?

Jesus Christ.
Scored 1-4 in last few minutes to win. Ferm will hammer us in May.

Fermanagh could be in Division 4 with Antrim next year! They need to beat Offaly and Wexford at home to stay in Division 3. I'd say that game'll be tight enough.

When they squander an 8 point lead agin Carlow, I'll agree with you!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 09, 2014, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: CD on March 09, 2014, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 09, 2014, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Carlow scored 3-15?

Jesus Christ.
Scored 1-4 in last few minutes to win. Ferm will hammer us in May.

Fermanagh could be in Division 4 with Antrim next year! They need to beat Offaly and Wexford at home to stay in Division 3. I'd say that game'll be tight enough.

Fermanagh have lost 3 games from 4 in Divison 3. Did Antrim think they would stroll through Divison 4? Seems to be that way, from the reaction of your fans after losing to Leitim the first day and then Wicklow, every side wants to get promoted not just Antrim.

Ye have talented players but it takes more then that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
We keep telling ourselves that rodney but at this point you do have to wonder.

Carlow  was a winnable game. We have no right to go out and think it's s matter of turning up against anyone these days.

League looks gone. Need to work on best 15 for fermanagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on March 10, 2014, 11:08:05 PM
Can't say l'm one bit surprised at how this is turning out. What shocks me is how much crap Dawson took for basically the same same thing that is happening here, and not as much as a tear dropped yet. One win out of four in this division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on March 11, 2014, 10:33:07 AM
Should never go back, will always end in tears. Not looking good, Baker needs to take responsibility, every interview he's giving off about injuries, players etc..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 11, 2014, 10:33:07 AM
Should never go back, will always end in tears. Not looking good, Baker needs to take responsibility, every interview he's giving off about injuries, players etc..

Maybe less interviews would be a start full stop. Sit down with the players and see what they actually want out of this season. We can sometimes forget that these boys are giving up massive amounts of time to play even at div 4 level, so there needs to be an environment where they feel like they are part of something and that it is worth buying into. Until this is created there will always be a case of these 'walk outs', something which can't be afford when dealing with such a small talent pool.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on March 11, 2014, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on March 11, 2014, 10:33:07 AM
Should never go back, will always end in tears. Not looking good, Baker needs to take responsibility, every interview he's giving off about injuries, players etc..

Maybe less interviews would be a start full stop. Sit down with the players and see what they actually want out of this season. We can sometimes forget that these boys are giving up massive amounts of time to play even at div 4 level, so there needs to be an environment where they feel like they are part of something and that it is worth buying into. Until this is created there will always be a case of these 'walk outs', something which can't be afford when dealing with such a small talent pool.

Agreed, idle threats will do nothing for the motivation of players at the low ebb.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 11, 2014, 11:44:35 AM
Those on the board who were in agreement about the return of Baker and co are very quiet.I just wonder how they think it is working out and are they still hopefull of promotion and beating Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2014, 04:31:48 PM
We need to replicate what Cavan have done.

Instead of seeing under twenty ones as a nuisance, we need to make it an absolute priority. Cavan did several years ago, and kept their U-21 panel totally separate from their seniors, until they were Ulster champions. Three years on the trot.

I know that does not guarantee anything at senior level, but what they now have is a football mad community behind them. They bring huge crowds to watch their under 21`s, and I'm sure their business community wants a part of this success too.

We need a plan of action for minors and under twenty ones, including a follow on programme which facilitates further physiological development once their competition months are over. Because believe it or not, we have some really good players in these age groups. Fitzy and Gerard have done good work under the circumstances, and hopefully we can pull out a result against Armagh in the Athletic grounds next week. But with an ideal, stand alone preparation I think we could be four or five points an even better team.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 11, 2014, 05:00:27 PM
Last 2 wins at U21:

Armagh in 2003 and Fermanagh in 2006?

Apparently our team is ok but we have an awful losing habit so a win would be a huge surprise

When did we last win a game before 2003 even?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
As long as we fiddle about with 21`s we will always get what we deserve. One year I was involved we did take it seriously. We played over a dozen challenges and got a good strong focus from the players. That was 06 when we last won a championship match in this grade.

The couple of years before that I was also involved, but it was fiddling about at best. We got what we deserved.

The lesson is that to beat a team in this competition we must outwork them in the months prior, and be equally well or better prepared.

Sadly our budget dosent extend that far and if we can get the seniors and under twenty ones to pitch share on training nights sure that will keep the costs down. Thats really as far as our ambitions stretch Gold.

Now if we had a really serious senior team, I can see why the under twenty ones "may" be a bit of a hindrance. But we cant say that, in fact we are the opposite. We need to make 17-21 an absolute priority, and this needs led from top down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 11, 2014, 07:01:50 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on March 11, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
Hi everyone, long time reader, first time poster.

Footballers are in a bad bad way at the minute. Can't believe we didn't give the job to the Antrim men. What had we to lose?  No disrespect to Baker (he owes us nothing) but I just feel that Antrim men who a lot of players would have looked up to would have been the better choice.

We should just accept that outside of Kilkenny, we are probably the worst team in the country.

All that said, I think the players do need to seriously look in the mirror at themselves.  According to a pissed off panellist friend of mine, there is a lot of chest puffing going on amongst the panel.  He is telling me that the amount of egos in the changing room is unreal and slightly embarrassing.

Maybe a lot of the players should be a little less concerned with their twitter and facebook profile pictures and statuses and be more concerned with their training, preparation and performances.  Some of the twitter posts by some of the Antrim players (you probably know who they are) are frankly embarrassing and cringe worthy between playing to the media, selling products and coming on talking about Antrim Roars and all.  I am sorry but no amount of Antrim roars will get a player to defend better, an attacker to score or indeed a goalie to save shots I have only been to one game admittedly but normally don't miss.  It's a bit embarrassing to be honest to be an Antrim supporter at the minute.

Yeah I wouldn't like to hear any of them if they were actually successful, as opposed to Div 4 fodder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
What products?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bealfeirste on March 11, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on March 11, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
Hi everyone, long time reader, first time poster.

Footballers are in a bad bad way at the minute. Can't believe we didn't give the job to the Antrim men. What had we to lose?  No disrespect to Baker (he owes us nothing) but I just feel that Antrim men who a lot of players would have looked up to would have been the better choice.

We should just accept that outside of Kilkenny, we are probably the worst team in the country.

All that said, I think the players do need to seriously look in the mirror at themselves.  According to a pissed off panellist friend of mine, there is a lot of chest puffing going on amongst the panel.  He is telling me that the amount of egos in the changing room is unreal and slightly embarrassing.

Maybe a lot of the players should be a little less concerned with their twitter and facebook profile pictures and statuses and be more concerned with their training, preparation and performances.  Some of the twitter posts by some of the Antrim players (you probably know who they are) are frankly embarrassing and cringe worthy between playing to the media, selling products and coming on talking about Antrim Roars and all.  I am sorry but no amount of Antrim roars will get a player to defend better, an attacker to score or indeed a goalie to save shots I have only been to one game admittedly but normally don't miss.  It's a bit embarrassing to be honest to be an Antrim supporter at the minute.

Personally think that's a bit harsh. The players can do as they please on social networking as can anyone. You have to remember that these players don't get a penny for playing.

It is frustrating to constantly lose and although on a personal level some of the players might be hard to like, we should always give full support to those who put on the jersey... well most of them :-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 11, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
Any teams interested in a u16 friendly please pm for details.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 12, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on March 11, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
Hi everyone, long time reader, first time poster.

Footballers are in a bad bad way at the minute. Can't believe we didn't give the job to the Antrim men. What had we to lose?  No disrespect to Baker (he owes us nothing) but I just feel that Antrim men who a lot of players would have looked up to would have been the better choice.

We should just accept that outside of Kilkenny, we are probably the worst team in the country.

All that said, I think the players do need to seriously look in the mirror at themselves.  According to a pissed off panellist friend of mine, there is a lot of chest puffing going on amongst the panel.  He is telling me that the amount of egos in the changing room is unreal and slightly embarrassing.

Maybe a lot of the players should be a little less concerned with their twitter and facebook profile pictures and statuses and be more concerned with their training, preparation and performances.  Some of the twitter posts by some of the Antrim players (you probably know who they are) are frankly embarrassing and cringe worthy between playing to the media, selling products and coming on talking about Antrim Roars and all.  I am sorry but no amount of Antrim roars will get a player to defend better, an attacker to score or indeed a goalie to save shots I have only been to one game admittedly but normally don't miss.  It's a bit embarrassing to be honest to be an Antrim supporter at the minute.
Jeez never read such rubbish even on a site which is usually more fiction than fact............get a grip MickeyJoe and ur depth of knowledge on the football front is ceertainly open to question...............sure Kilkenny have not participated in football for a couple of years...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on March 13, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
Give it to an Antrim man... jesus christ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 13, 2014, 04:46:41 PM
Quote from: stibhan on March 13, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
Give it to an Antrim man... jesus christ.

"someone we all looked up to"

Who is that?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2014, 09:49:54 AM
Bit hard there on Mickey80 there. Come out and tell us what you think lad you are entitled to your opinion.

You are not the first to talk about these "inflated egos". Nor are you the first to think it is embarassing being an Antrim Football supporter at the minute.

But we are certainly not the second worst football team in the country thats for sure. The players we have are a lot better than that. Just over a year ago we played Derry in a Mc Kenna cup match. Believe me Brian Mc Ivor wasnt turning Derry out to lose. We drew that game in Celtic Pk playing great football - in fact we threw it away when a forward shit himself near the end and missed a 21 yard tap over to win it.

Derry are near the top of Division One, and we are near the bottom of Division Four. Likewise we beat Down just over six weeks ago in Newry. And James Mc Cartan was not trying to lose at home to Antrim.

We HAVE the players to be at the very least a mid division two team. So what are we doing wrong?? Last year Frank Dawson was getting dogs abuse on here, and now we cant buy a win in Division Four. Is it the boards fault? Is it the managements fault? Is it the players fault?

I know one thing. Unless it gets sorted, a lot of Club Antrim standing orders will be cancelled and there will be no one pay to watch a bunch of failures playing in Europes finest new stadium.

Leadership comes from the top, and if they dont give a damn why should anyone else.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Brick on March 14, 2014, 09:56:35 AM
Any word on Antrim team for this weekend? Is it true that 3 players have walked away from the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 14, 2014, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2014, 09:49:54 AM
Bit hard there on Mickey80 there. Come out and tell us what you think lad you are entitled to your opinion.

You are not the first to talk about these "inflated egos". Nor are you the first to think it is embarassing being an Antrim Football supporter at the minute.

But we are certainly not the second worst football team in the country thats for sure. The players we have are a lot better than that. Just over a year ago we played Derry in a Mc Kenna cup match. Believe me Brian Mc Ivor wasnt turning Derry out to lose. We drew that game in Celtic Pk playing great football - in fact we threw it away when a forward shit himself near the end and missed a 21 yard tap over to win it.

Derry are near the top of Division One, and we are near the bottom of Division Four. Likewise we beat Down just over six weeks ago in Newry. And James Mc Cartan was not trying to lose at home to Antrim.

We HAVE the players to be at the very least a mid division two team. So what are we doing wrong?? Last year Frank Dawson was getting dogs abuse on here, and now we cant buy a win in Division Four. Is it the boards fault? Is it the managements fault? Is it the players fault?

I know one thing. Unless it gets sorted, a lot of Club Antrim standing orders will be cancelled and there will be no one pay to watch a bunch of failures playing in Europes finest new stadium.

Leadership comes from the top, and if they dont give a damn why should anyone else.

Mickey's right about the ego's and gaunching from boys who've done very little really yet have an elevated opinions of themselves. I'm sure team spirit isn't great.
Thing is they should all be doing it for the county and love of the county, not themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
The bottom line is that it should be an honour to represent your county. How much honour is attached to being a member of the what many are saying is the worst performing Antrim team/panel in living memory.

But Football is a funny oul game (as they say) and a good performance (or result)against Tipp on Sunday might just start to turn the tide. Tipp are not a bad team and are rightly favourites, so Sunday might just be a timely opportunity for the players to make their own statement. That will be an indicator of sorts. A performance will be seen as a step in the right direction, but if its a lukewarm response from the players Baker will be starting to wonder if it was such a good idea to make a comeback.

Come on lads.Time to get this sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 16, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
Tipp 2-9 Ant 1-6 HT

Wicklow bate Carlow by 11.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 16, 2014, 03:39:56 PM
Concede 3-20 this week, that's 6-35 in two Div 4 games!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 16, 2014, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: AQMP on March 16, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
Tipp 2-9 Ant 1-6 HT

Wicklow bate Carlow by 11.
Wicklow score corrected by GAA site. Wick win by 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2014, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2014, 09:49:54 AM
Bit hard there on Mickey80 there. Come out and tell us what you think lad you are entitled to your opinion.

You are not the first to talk about these "inflated egos". Nor are you the first to think it is embarassing being an Antrim Football supporter at the minute.

But we are certainly not the second worst football team in the country thats for sure. The players we have are a lot better than that. Just over a year ago we played Derry in a Mc Kenna cup match. Believe me Brian Mc Ivor wasnt turning Derry out to lose. We drew that game in Celtic Pk playing great football - in fact we threw it away when a forward shit himself near the end and missed a 21 yard tap over to win it.

Derry are near the top of Division One, and we are near the bottom of Division Four. Likewise we beat Down just over six weeks ago in Newry. And James Mc Cartan was not trying to lose at home to Antrim.

We HAVE the players to be at the very least a mid division two team. So what are we doing wrong?? Last year Frank Dawson was getting dogs abuse on here, and now we cant buy a win in Division Four. Is it the boards fault? Is it the managements fault? Is it the players fault?

I know one thing. Unless it gets sorted, a lot of Club Antrim standing orders will be cancelled and there will be no one pay to watch a bunch of failures playing in Europes finest new stadium.

Leadership comes from the top, and if they dont give a damn why should anyone else.

There is absolutely no evidence to back that up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
I totally understand how ludicrous that assertion looks tonight Minder on the back of recent performances. Cant argue with the stats AQMP has posted either. But we have to hold on an aspiration to play at a higher level - because once we concede that possibility we might as well all throw the towel in.

Two years ago Derry and Monaghan were in disarray (by their standards, not ours). They appointed two men that I had promoted for Antrim, as both were available at that time. Mc Iver took Derry out of div 2 at first attempt and look at them today beating the Dubs and near top of Division One. Definitely on a very progressive curve. Malachy O Rourke won an Ulster c`ship at the first attemp, and also won promotion from div 3. And still progressing. Remarkable progress as he had already demonstrated at The Loup (Ulster club winners) and with Fermanagh with whom he remarkably prepared to draw an Ulster final against Armagh in 2008.

Disarray can be turned around lads, but it takes vision, leadership and a united desire. As a dual county where our hurling budget is set to more than double our football budget, its clear that our co board are totally disinterested in football. Thats the reality, most of them either dont care or dont know. As I said before - which is worse?

And as for having any ambition for Antrim Football - just speak to John Rafferty or Seamus Mc Eneaney who were both interviwed for the post several months ago, and listen to what they have to say about how their ambitious plans were knocked back. Youre not allowed to have any ambition for Antrim Football. Get used to it. A bag of balls and away you go and can you pitch share with Under 21`s like good lads. Chickens coming home to roost now, arnt they??

Hopefully our under 21`s (on their shoestring budget) will offer some glimpse of a better future when they meet Armagh on Wednesday night. If we really want a blueprint for the future then we should be watching closely at what Cavan are doing at this level.

But then again ANY blueprint would be a start, wouldnt it?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 18, 2014, 05:06:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
I totally understand how ludicrous that assertion looks tonight Minder on the back of recent performances. Cant argue with the stats AQMP has posted either. But we have to hold on an aspiration to play at a higher level - because once we concede that possibility we might as well all throw the towel in.

Two years ago Derry and Monaghan were in disarray (by their standards, not ours). They appointed two men that I had promoted for Antrim, as both were available at that time. Mc Iver took Derry out of div 2 at first attempt and look at them today beating the Dubs and near top of Division One. Definitely on a very progressive curve. Malachy O Rourke won an Ulster c`ship at the first attemp, and also won promotion from div 3. And still progressing. Remarkable progress as he had already demonstrated at The Loup (Ulster club winners) and with Fermanagh with whom he remarkably prepared to draw an Ulster final against Armagh in 2008.

Disarray can be turned around lads, but it takes vision, leadership and a united desire. As a dual county where our hurling budget is set to more than double our football budget, its clear that our co board are totally disinterested in football. Thats the reality, most of them either dont care or dont know. As I said before - which is worse?

And as for having any ambition for Antrim Football - just speak to John Rafferty or Seamus Mc Eneaney who were both interviwed for the post several months ago, and listen to what they have to say about how their ambitious plans were knocked back. Youre not allowed to have any ambition for Antrim Football. Get used to it. A bag of balls and away you go and can you pitch share with Under 21`s like good lads. Chickens coming home to roost now, arnt they??

Hopefully our under 21`s (on their shoestring budget) will offer some glimpse of a better future when they meet Armagh on Wednesday night. If we really want a blueprint for the future then we should be watching closely at what Cavan are doing at this level.

But then again ANY blueprint would be a start, wouldnt it?
[/quoteAgree totally with every single word you say Bannside.............Football has always been a second cousin in the aspirations of this county and it will never change.]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 18, 2014, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
I totally understand how ludicrous that assertion looks tonight Minder on the back of recent performances. Cant argue with the stats AQMP has posted either. But we have to hold on an aspiration to play at a higher level - because once we concede that possibility we might as well all throw the towel in.

Two years ago Derry and Monaghan were in disarray (by their standards, not ours). They appointed two men that I had promoted for Antrim, as both were available at that time. Mc Iver took Derry out of div 2 at first attempt and look at them today beating the Dubs and near top of Division One. Definitely on a very progressive curve. Malachy O Rourke won an Ulster c`ship at the first attemp, and also won promotion from div 3. And still progressing. Remarkable progress as he had already demonstrated at The Loup (Ulster club winners) and with Fermanagh with whom he remarkably prepared to draw an Ulster final against Armagh in 2008.

Disarray can be turned around lads, but it takes vision, leadership and a united desire. As a dual county where our hurling budget is set to more than double our football budget, its clear that our co board are totally disinterested in football. Thats the reality, most of them either dont care or dont know. As I said before - which is worse?

And as for having any ambition for Antrim Football - just speak to John Rafferty or Seamus Mc Eneaney who were both interviwed for the post several months ago, and listen to what they have to say about how their ambitious plans were knocked back. Youre not allowed to have any ambition for Antrim Football. Get used to it. A bag of balls and away you go and can you pitch share with Under 21`s like good lads. Chickens coming home to roost now, arnt they??

Hopefully our under 21`s (on their shoestring budget) will offer some glimpse of a better future when they meet Armagh on Wednesday night. If we really want a blueprint for the future then we should be watching closely at what Cavan are doing at this level.

But then again ANY blueprint would be a start, wouldnt it?

We will do well to beat Armagh tomorrow night. Were inept v Derry last year. Hope we go out and play with guts and fire from the start--not waiting to see what they do first and then trying to make a comeback when the game is gone.

Tipp aren't a bad side but conceding 3-20 to them is unreal.

Managers can only do so much, players make the difference.

We massively miss Loughrey (constantly broke gain line, setting up points and goals and also our best defender) , not having a  focal point in attack and Tomas McCann also. Terry O'Neill and A Gallagher are losses too, although both are gone a while now. If you think back to our 1 point win v Donegal and 3 point win v Cavan in 09--those players were all playing well and are all still of playing (perhaps peak) age.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2014, 11:20:26 AM
Was at Ahoghill last night to see our minors put up a gutsy display against a very impressive Tyrone team in the Ulster minor league.  Tyrone pulled away at the end to open up the scoreboard, but with ten to go it was anyones game. Cant see any team in Ulster beating Tyrone this year, maybe even an all Ireland in them.

Plenty to like about this Antrim minor team too and a strong management team that will get the best out of them.

And just for the record I noted that the Tyrone squad and management of 40 got a meal in the pavillion in Cloney after the game - and the Antrim players went home with nothing! Disgraceful.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 11:20:26 AM
Was at Ahoghill last night to see our minors put up a gutsy display against a very impressive Tyrone team in the Ulster minor league.  Tyrone pulled away at the end to open up the scoreboard, but with ten to go it was anyones game. Cant see any team in Ulster beating Tyrone this year, maybe even an all Ireland in them.

Plenty to like about this Antrim minor team too and a strong management team that will get the best out of them.

And just for the record I noted that the Tyrone squad and management of 40 got a meal in the pavillion in Cloney after the game - and the Antrim players went home with nothing! Disgraceful.

Need the money to fight the social club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2014, 01:24:04 PM
I thought so too. I think it was at the request of the Tyrone board who, as standard practice, make sure their players are feed after training and matches. Id say they would be volunteering to pay for the service themselves separately. Didnt look good though, and these are the things our young players are sure to notice.

Having said that we must have some realism too. We are not Tyrone, and neither are many other counties if we were to be totally honest about it. They are an out and out football army. They also had a very professional looking outfit filming their game. It wouldnt surprise me if every player had a DVD given to them of the match. The stats will have been deducted in detail, and every player will be corrected in any aspects of their game that can be improved.

Panels of 24 are the norm and as far as I know there is a fine if this is not adhered to. But Tyrone keep a panel of 35, and probably dont object to the fine. You have to hand it to them - their standards are consistently high year on year. Up there with the Dubs in organisation, structure, leadership and ambition.

I should mention that Antrim didnt even have a full and proper kit. Apparently thats on the way...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 19, 2014, 01:27:49 PM
Did we not even have any of those microwave dinners left over from the infamous can't cook won't cook Dinny Cahill episode?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

FFS how f**king hard is it to do a chicken curry for 30 people 12 or so fillets curry paste, oinions, garlic and some f**king rice???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2014, 01:49:37 PM
I know. Even by our own standards I thought this one was particularly lousy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 19, 2014, 01:51:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 19, 2014, 01:27:49 PM
Did we not even have any of those microwave dinners left over from the infamous can't cook won't cook Dinny Cahill episode?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

FFS how f**king hard is it to do a chicken curry for 30 people 12 or so fillets curry paste, oinions, garlic and some f**king rice???
Get you, all fancy. Nothing wrong with a pastie bap each.

Aye that's alright for us chip eaters from the West......

I remember we played Tyrone in a hurling challenge match, out past Omagh (serious set up) the footballers were up on the top pitch we  were playing on the first pitch, straight after the game we had a feed, a choice of soup, chilli, or curry!! of course we had all three. That was 15 odd years ago

We were just impressed with the facilities nevermind the meal afterwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Is the team named BS??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:27:18 PM
The players had a few training sessions over the weekend, and would know themselves obviously at this stage who is starting. I dont think it has been officially released ITG. I could make a stab at it but best to wait on the official version.

There would be a good few who I think can step up in the next year or two, but will hold judgement until I get another look at some of them tonight in championship action. Armagh have Stevie Mc Donnell in charge and he has had 6 months to get ready for this. Typically we got going late, but sure that keeps the costs down -  dosent it?

Ciaran O Hanlon is a class act for them - possibly the youngest player in the province to play senior in a long time. He will need carefully watched. Jemar Hall also a very fast and skilful forward. If we can contain these two we will be well on our way. Hopeful we can do it though.

Good luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2014, 03:58:02 PM
Yep - hopefully we can get something out of it. Noticed O'Hanlon was playing - have only heard of him more than seen him but he has a big rep for that age.

Your cost down comment unfortunately makes me think of the line fail to prepare, prepare to fail but hopefully we can get something. I don't know enough about that age group but there should be a few decent enough players I think to challenge at least.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Brick on March 19, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?

They will be lucky if they can get within 5 points of Armagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 19, 2014, 04:55:25 PM
Quote from: The Brick on March 19, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?

They will be lucky if they can get within 5 points of Armagh!

They lost by 5pts to Tyrone in the Shamrock Cup final, so I don't see why they couldn't compete against Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on March 19, 2014, 05:22:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:27:18 PM
The players had a few training sessions over the weekend, and would know themselves obviously at this stage who is starting. I dont think it has been officially released ITG. I could make a stab at it but best to wait on the official version.

There would be a good few who I think can step up in the next year or two, but will hold judgement until I get another look at some of them tonight in championship action. Armagh have Stevie Mc Donnell in charge and he has had 6 months to get ready for this. Typically we got going late, but sure that keeps the costs down -  dosent it?

Ciaran O Hanlon is a class act for them - possibly the youngest player in the province to play senior in a long time. He will need carefully watched. Jemar Hall also a very fast and skilful forward. If we can contain these two we will be well on our way. Hopeful we can do it though.

Good luck to all involved.

Think he is the same year group as Ciaran Mc Fall/ Ryan Bell/Conor Mc Atamney/Declean Brown who all played intercounty senior football last year also, but that his birthday is after July explaining why he played Mac Rory football last season.  Could be wrong but don't think I'm to far off the mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
Team named:

http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=4108

A few famous parents of that team!

Some strong enough players in there. Good luck to all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
Quote from: The Brick on March 19, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?

They will be lucky if they can get within 5 points of Armagh!

Must have been luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 20, 2014, 09:02:42 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/26659099. 

Great fightback by the Saffs.  A bit of pride in the jersey.  Fair play to Ronan McGrady and Ryan Murray who got 3-10 between them (McGrady finishing up with 3-4)
==========================================================================================
Antrim fight back to draw with Armagh in U21 clash

Antrim fought back from the jaws of defeat on two occasions to draw 3-14 to 1-20 with Armagh after extra-time in the Ulster U21 quarter-final.  The Saffrons came back from seven points down with two minutes left of normal time to level.  Armagh let slip a six-point lead in extra-time as Antrim's second fightback secured a replay next Wednesday. 

The winner of the replay with meet Donegal, who hammered Fermanagh 3-10 to 0-6 in Ballybofey, in the semi-finals.  Goals from Willie Gillespie, Ciaran Brennan and Patrick McBrearty (penalty) helped Donegal to a comfortable win.

Antrim had their noses in front for most of the first-half at the Athletic Grounds and Ronan McGrady's penalty put them 1-2 to 0-2 ahead after 15 minutes.  McGrady converted the penalty on 12 minutes after Ryan Murray was fouled by Shea Freeman, who received a black card.  Armagh initially struggled with the strong wind at their backs but scored three unanswered points before the break.
Paul McGeown scored his third point of the night, followed by a '45' from Ethan Rafferty and a point from captain Miceal McKenna.  Armagh senior player Ethan Rafferty was the outstanding player on the field and he helped the home side pull away in the second-half.
Rafferty thumped home a 42nd minute penalty as Armagh outscored Antrim by 1-8 to 0-3 in a 15-minute period.  They looked to be cruising to victory, especially when Niall Delargy was black carded to leave Antrim, who had already used all their substitutes, down to 14 men.  However, two late goals from full-forward McGrady, his second a stunning effort in the third minute of injury-time, helped the Saffrons tie the game at 1-14 to 3-8 after an hour's play.  Armagh scored six unanswered points in the first period of extra-time, but Antrim responded with six of their own in an incredible second period.

Armagh: N McCoy; M Finnegan, S Kelly, S Freeman; D O'Neill, D O'Hagan, P Crilly; A Findon, E Rafferty (1-2, pen, 'a 45'); P McGeown (0-6, 2f), M McKenna (0-2), C Comiskey (0-2, 2f); A Nugent, C O'Hanlon (0-2), C McNally

Subs: C Boyle for Freeman (BC, 11), E English (0-4) for McNally (28), J McElroy for Finnegan (42), J Hall (0-2) for Nugent (48), E Burns for O'Neill (66)

Antrim: R Hanna; C O'Rawe, N Delargy, C McCann; M McGarry, C Hamill, E Killough; O Gallagher, D Nugent; R Murray (0-6), K Quinn (0-1), D McAleese; P McBride (0-1), R McGrady (3-4, pen, 2f), L McCurdy

Subs: D McCann for C McCann (20), F O'Neill for McGarry (38), R McCann (0-2) for McCurdy (42), R Lynch for Nugent (45), M Lappin for Hamill (48), P Nugent for Quinn (53)

Referee: Cathal O'Hagan (Tyrone)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2014, 09:59:53 AM
Nice after the last few weeks to have a positive result for a change.

Great battling spirit too which is great to see.

Not often a cushendall hurler will score 3-4 in an ulster championship football match!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 20, 2014, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2014, 09:59:53 AM
Nice after the last few weeks to have a positive result for a change.

Great battling spirit too which is great to see.

Not often a cushendall hurler will score 3-4 in an ulster championship football match!

Sign of a genuine dual county! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
Quote from: AQMP on March 20, 2014, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2014, 09:59:53 AM
Nice after the last few weeks to have a positive result for a change.

Great battling spirit too which is great to see.

Not often a cushendall hurler will score 3-4 in an ulster championship football match!

Sign of a genuine dual county! ;)


I take it that's the same Conor McCann too??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2014, 10:34:13 AM
Having read those comments in to-day's "Off the Fence" in the Irish News relating to the ongoing Casement Social Club v County board is Paddy Heaney just making mischief or would the greasing of palms and the spreading of a lotta "goodwill money" (£1.6m)see an end to the matter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
Think Owen Gallagher got the last gasp goal (not Mc Grady) both of whom had excellent games.
Not the same Conor Mc Cann. Hes a year too old. This ones not too bad either.

Some match and a great battling display. Job not done yet but hopefully our management team will have learned more than theirs. Still there to be won.

Ryan Murray was class too I thought. Stepped up big time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Brick on March 20, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
Quote from: The Brick on March 19, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?

They will be lucky if they can get within 5 points of Armagh!

Must have been luck

As i said 'lucky'. 2 goals coming into injury time and again 4 points down 5 mins to play in extra time. Should have been dead and buried. Armagh wont make the same mistake in replay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: The Brick on March 20, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
Quote from: The Brick on March 19, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?

They will be lucky if they can get within 5 points of Armagh!

Must have been luck

As i said 'lucky'. 2 goals coming into injury time and again 4 points down 5 mins to play in extra time. Should have been dead and buried. Armagh wont make the same mistake in replay.

Who's rubbed you up the wrong way??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: The Brick on March 20, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
Quote from: The Brick on March 19, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2014, 02:05:07 PM
I think our U-21`s can put it up to Armagh and quietly confident of a big result tonight. Athletic grounds at 8pm.

Is this Bakers fifth year as under 21 manager?

They will be lucky if they can get within 5 points of Armagh!

Must have been luck

As i said 'lucky'. 2 goals coming into injury time and again 4 points down 5 mins to play in extra time. Should have been dead and buried. Armagh wont make the same mistake in replay.

Who's rubbed you up the wrong way??

Me thinks me?

So the timing of goals decides if it's luck or not? I thought that during play a goal was a goal?

So if you get two goals in the first 3 minutes and draw or win are you lucky?

If you get  6 points in a row in the seven minutes leading up to half time and draw the game are you lucky?

One team may score unanswered points in a first half and the other team do the same in the second half(maybe extra time). What makes one team lucky?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Twenty three points to twenty three after 80 minutes. You make your own luck!
During that time we created at least the same amount of scoring chances. There was a huge wind factor too Brick that you probably are not aware of if, as I suspect, you werent at the game!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2014, 11:50:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Twenty three points to twenty three after 80 minutes. You make your own luck!
During that time we created at least the same amount of scoring chances. There was a huge wind factor too Brick that you probably are not aware of if, as I suspect, you werent at the game!

No was not at the game, but your twenty three points to twenty three points after 80minutes was exactly what I was saying, the Brick called it luck I was pointing out what you have just wrote above, each of my points were a question to Brick if you read them. Btw sorry for posting on a game I didn't attend,  the amount of posts on this board will fall dramatically if that becomes a precondition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2014, 12:33:34 PM
Misunderstanding there Gizzy. My comments were meant for Brick - I think you and I are on the same page. You missed a cracker though. The old saying "you couldn`t write the script" was made for last night.

It wasnt all pretty though. I thought some players did noticably better than others last night and we will need them all showing up next Wednesday night. Cant fault the effort and the character though and we dont see enough of that in Saffron. Credit to all for that ..... but now the standard has to be maintained.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 22, 2014, 12:01:29 PM
Under-21 replay at Newry.............f c u k..........................are we wearing the red and black?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on March 22, 2014, 08:59:38 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 18, 2014, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
I totally understand how ludicrous that assertion looks tonight Minder on the back of recent performances. Cant argue with the stats AQMP has posted either. But we have to hold on an aspiration to play at a higher level - because once we concede that possibility we might as well all throw the towel in.

Two years ago Derry and Monaghan were in disarray (by their standards, not ours). They appointed two men that I had promoted for Antrim, as both were available at that time. Mc Iver took Derry out of div 2 at first attempt and look at them today beating the Dubs and near top of Division One. Definitely on a very progressive curve. Malachy O Rourke won an Ulster c`ship at the first attemp, and also won promotion from div 3. And still progressing. Remarkable progress as he had already demonstrated at The Loup (Ulster club winners) and with Fermanagh with whom he remarkably prepared to draw an Ulster final against Armagh in 2008.

Disarray can be turned around lads, but it takes vision, leadership and a united desire. As a dual county where our hurling budget is set to more than double our football budget, its clear that our co board are totally disinterested in football. Thats the reality, most of them either dont care or dont know. As I said before - which is worse?

And as for having any ambition for Antrim Football - just speak to John Rafferty or Seamus Mc Eneaney who were both interviwed for the post several months ago, and listen to what they have to say about how their ambitious plans were knocked back. Youre not allowed to have any ambition for Antrim Football. Get used to it. A bag of balls and away you go and can you pitch share with Under 21`s like good lads. Chickens coming home to roost now, arnt they??

Hopefully our under 21`s (on their shoestring budget) will offer some glimpse of a better future when they meet Armagh on Wednesday night. If we really want a blueprint for the future then we should be watching closely at what Cavan are doing at this level.

But then again ANY blueprint would be a start, wouldnt it?

We will do well to beat Armagh tomorrow night. Were inept v Derry last year. Hope we go out and play with guts and fire from the start--not waiting to see what they do first and then trying to make a comeback when the game is gone.

Tipp aren't a bad side but conceding 3-20 to them is unreal.

Managers can only do so much, players make the difference.

We massively miss Loughrey (constantly broke gain line, setting up points and goals and also our best defender) , not having a  focal point in attack and Tomas McCann also. Terry O'Neill and A Gallagher are losses too, although both are gone a while now. If you think back to our 1 point win v Donegal and 3 point win v Cavan in 09--those players were all playing well and are all still of playing (perhaps peak) age.

Gold, interested in your observations on Loughrey. Can you explain what the gain line is Gaelic Football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
Think what Gold is saying is straightforward. No one was better than James Loughrey at breaking a tackle (which takes a man out) therefore gaining an advantage. Thats the gain line - breaking the line between your opponent and the goals you are laying into. Plus Locky was big on leadership and demanded better from those around him. No surprise that he has been well received in Cork.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on March 23, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
Been away working-all things seem rosy in the Antrim garden, bar the casement saga. U21 get a good result on Wednesday night and all is good again. What is with the seniors in that they are now the bottom team in Ireland. Its a good job Fermanagh is in a bigger mess than Antrim coming up to the championship. Bannside-how are things in Portglenone. Was talking to a member who was telling me that senior team preparations have be very difficult because Portglenone have 5 players away with county and that there are a spate of injuries to the U21 team that they haven't been able
to join senior training. Hardly ideal preparations 2 weeks till the league starts. Are there any other immediate teams in Antrim whose preparations have been "handicapped" coming up to start of season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 10:41:57 AM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on March 23, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
Been away working-all things seem rosy in the Antrim garden, bar the casement saga. U21 get a good result on Wednesday night and all is good again. What is with the seniors in that they are now the bottom team in Ireland. Its a good job Fermanagh is in a bigger mess than Antrim coming up to the championship. Bannside-how are things in Portglenone. Was talking to a member who was telling me that senior team preparations have be very difficult because Portglenone have 5 players away with county and that there are a spate of injuries to the U21 team that they haven't been able
to join senior training. Hardly ideal preparations 2 weeks till the league starts. Are there any other immediate teams in Antrim whose preparations have been "handicapped" coming up to start of season.


I'd say that most clubs have problems early doors but the focus for most will be championship and the way Antrim are going at the minute Portglenone will have all their county players back at the buisness end of things, and maybe able to push on from the under 21 championship win last year.

What side of the draw are Portglenone? Cargin or Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 23, 2014, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on March 23, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
Been away working-all things seem rosy in the Antrim garden, bar the casement saga. U21 get a good result on Wednesday night and all is good again. What is with the seniors in that they are now the bottom team in Ireland. Its a good job Fermanagh is in a bigger mess than Antrim coming up to the championship. Bannside-how are things in Portglenone. Was talking to a member who was telling me that senior team preparations have be very difficult because Portglenone have 5 players away with county and that there are a spate of injuries to the U21 team that they haven't been able
to join senior training. Hardly ideal preparations 2 weeks till the league starts. Are there any other immediate teams in Antrim whose preparations have been "handicapped" coming up to start of season.
The short answer is neither.................................but if you scroll on down to the Intermediate you will find that Casement's meet O' Donnells in the first round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 23, 2014, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on March 23, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
Been away working-all things seem rosy in the Antrim garden, bar the casement saga. U21 get a good result on Wednesday night and all is good again. What is with the seniors in that they are now the bottom team in Ireland. Its a good job Fermanagh is in a bigger mess than Antrim coming up to the championship. Bannside-how are things in Portglenone. Was talking to a member who was telling me that senior team preparations have be very difficult because Portglenone have 5 players away with county and that there are a spate of injuries to the U21 team that they haven't been able
to join senior training. Hardly ideal preparations 2 weeks till the league starts. Are there any other immediate teams in Antrim whose preparations have been "handicapped" coming up to start of season.
The short answer is neither.................................but if you scroll on down to the Intermediate you will find that Casement's meet O' Donnells in the first round.

Shoe in then!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2014, 01:27:53 PM
Boys training for Sigerson, club under twenty one, county under 21 and county seniors should be fit enough when leagues start. Be more worried about burning out before the business end of the club season tbh. A couple of our lads have had NO break at all during the winter.

Im only talking about a couple of players in our club, but its important the club gets something out of them too at the business end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:36:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 23, 2014, 01:27:53 PM
Boys training for Sigerson, club under twenty one, county under 21 and county seniors should be fit enough when leagues start. Be more worried about burning out before the business end of the club season tbh. A couple of our lads have had NO break at all during the winter.

Im only talking about a couple of players in our club, but its important the club gets something out of them too at the business end.

Well then 'Manage' them, if you want them right at the right time its your managers job to ensure that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:36:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 23, 2014, 01:27:53 PM
Boys training for Sigerson, club under twenty one, county under 21 and county seniors should be fit enough when leagues start. Be more worried about burning out before the business end of the club season tbh. A couple of our lads have had NO break at all during the winter.

Im only talking about a couple of players in our club, but its important the club gets something out of them too at the business end.

Well then 'Manage' them, if you want them right at the right time its your managers job to ensure that.

Let them rest over a certain period, do no harm to miss a league game the odd time. Loughgiel seem to do ok and we've managed in the past to work a long season with the business end of things. Christ when I was that age ya never stopped, hurling football, sometimes 3 games at the weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
Its not a unique problem, but I got to see up close just how difficult it was for a player (my son) to manage an almost impossible situation. Thankfully a couple of those commitments have passed (Sigerson and club under 21) and county under 21 is still going for the minute but should filter out in a matter of days (hopefully not) or a matter of weeks.

To be fair the club senior manager is more than understanding, and I cant really fault any of the managers involved who were happy to "cut some slack" from time to time.

In a way its a great position for a lad to be in, but 100% needs managers to be onside with burn out potential. My feeling is that most are now quite mature in their outlook, so the penny is dropping. I think every coaching qualification course now from foundation to level two (or is it level three  now) puts a big emphasis on burnout, so there is much more education surrounding the matter.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
Worth noting that our minor footballers had a good victory against Fermanagh at the weekend. Like the look of this bunch this year.They play Derry on Saturday so that will tell us a bit more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 04:01:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 24, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
Worth noting that our minor footballers had a good victory against Fermanagh at the weekend. Like the look of this bunch this year.They play Derry on Saturday so that will tell us a bit more.

Who were beat handy by Tyrone I noticed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Thoughts turning to Newry tomorrow night. Anyone hear why it couldn't be hosted at the Dub?

Going down with a proper fighting chance, but we will need to be much more expansive if we are to beat them. The main explosive energy was coming only from Owen Gallagher, and he cant be expected to make those lung bursting runs on his own, without proper support.

There are several players who specialise on making "yards" with the ball for their clubs - breaking tackles and getting forward at speed. But they werent doing that last week in the Athletic grounds. Paddy Mc Bride, Niall Delargy and Marc Mc Garry are all good at getting forward and supporting the play. They must provide this aspect of their game tomorrow night. Standing marking their men is too easy for their opponents. They should be putting their men on the back foot - make them mark you!

We need much more pace at centre half forward too. Id have Dermot Mc Aleese in there from the start.

Would like to see Moses and Ruairi Mc Cann start, and does anyone know why isnt Matt Fitzpatrick on the panel? Great player.

If we get a few of these basics right we should have a great chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2014, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Thoughts turning to Newry tomorrow night. Anyone hear why it couldn't be hosted at the Dub?

Going down with a proper fighting chance, but we will need to be much more expansive if we are to beat them. The main explosive energy was coming only from Owen Gallagher, and he cant be expected to make those lung bursting runs on his own, without proper support.

There are several players who specialise on making "yards" with the ball for their clubs - breaking tackles and getting forward at speed. But they werent doing that last week in the Athletic grounds. Paddy Mc Bride, Niall Delargy and Marc Mc Garry are all good at getting forward and supporting the play. They must provide this aspect of their game tomorrow night. Standing marking their men is too easy for their opponents. They should be putting their men on the back foot - make them mark you!

We need much more pace at centre half forward too. Id have Dermot Mc Aleese in there from the start.

Would like to see Moses and Ruairi Mc Cann start, and does anyone know why isnt Matt Fitzpatrick on the panel? Great player.

If we get a few of these basics right we should have a great chance.

Haven't heard BS. I'd prefer a full back not to be making too many yards mind you!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 25, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Thoughts turning to Newry tomorrow night. Anyone hear why it couldn't be hosted at the Dub?

Going down with a proper fighting chance, but we will need to be much more expansive if we are to beat them. The main explosive energy was coming only from Owen Gallagher, and he cant be expected to make those lung bursting runs on his own, without proper support.

There are several players who specialise on making "yards" with the ball for their clubs - breaking tackles and getting forward at speed. But they werent doing that last week in the Athletic grounds. Paddy Mc Bride, Niall Delargy and Marc Mc Garry are all good at getting forward and supporting the play. They must provide this aspect of their game tomorrow night. Standing marking their men is too easy for their opponents. They should be putting their men on the back foot - make them mark you!

We need much more pace at centre half forward too. Id have Dermot Mc Aleese in there from the start.

Would like to see Moses and Ruairi Mc Cann start, and does anyone know why isnt Matt Fitzpatrick on the panel? Great player.

If we get a few of these basics right we should have a great chance.

Cant use the Dub as you cant play the Anthem there--a requirement of the competition is that it is played before all games--QUB are non-political so refuse to play anthems there. Therefore there is no other pitch with a stand and floodlights available.

Poor that its in Newry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 25, 2014, 01:10:17 PM
They could play 'Ghost-town' by the Specials like that epsiode in Fr Ted.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
Disappointing all right but there should be a great atmosphere in Newry too.

Our full back would have his hands full with O Hanlon alright ITG. Those three I mentioned were operating as half backs though and personally I though Gallagher was crying out for someone to support his runs.

I understand that the Armagh HF line is very strong too, and will need careful attention ...BUT.... sometimes the best form of defence is attack. Its the way the game is going - you need to get your engines into the game. And I thought some were standing off a bit last week.

Think Aaron Kernan, Ryan Mc Hugh, Karl Lacey, James Loughrey, Sean Leo Mc Goldrick etc. The risk is there that if the move breaks down your team can be caught in possession, but the most of the time their running is a positive contribution.

As I said earlier Gallagher cant do this on his own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 25, 2014, 07:30:48 PM
Team / squad. This is the whole squad.

Antrim U21 football Championship replay V Armagh
1. Ronan Hanna Naomh Seamas
2. Conor O Rawe Naomh Treasa
3. Emmet Killough Naomh Uile 
4. Mark Mc Garry Lamh Dhearg
5. Finbar O'Neill Ahoghill
6. Nial Delargy Mhic Asmaint (capt)
7. Ruairi Wilson Naomh Gall
8. Donal Nugent Naomh Eoin
9. Owen Gallagher Naomh Seosamh
10. Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg
11. Dermot Mc Aleese Mhic Asmaint
12. Padriag Nugent Naomh Eoin
13. Patrick McBride Naomh Eoin
14 Ronan Mc Grady Naomh Brid
15 Loughlin Mc Curdy Naomh Eoin

16 Tiernan Hughes Ciceaim Ard Eoin
17 Mathew Lappin Lamh Dhearg
18 Oisin Hamill Naomh Seosamh
19 Andrew Flood Naomh Seamus
20 Gerard Mc Corley Clann na hEireann
21 Kevin Quinn Lamh Dhearg
22. Peter McReynold Naomh Uile
23 Ruiari Mc Cann Ciceam Creagan
24 Declan McCann Ciceam Creagan
25. Gary Lennon Padraig Sairseil
26. Ciaran Loney Naomh Seosamh
27. Murtagh McKeague Creggan
28. Conor McCann Creggan
29. Conor Hamill Glenavy
30. Donal Doherty Lamh Dhearg
31. Ryan Lynch Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 25, 2014, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 25, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Thoughts turning to Newry tomorrow night. Anyone hear why it couldn't be hosted at the Dub?

Going down with a proper fighting chance, but we will need to be much more expansive if we are to beat them. The main explosive energy was coming only from Owen Gallagher, and he cant be expected to make those lung bursting runs on his own, without proper support.

There are several players who specialise on making "yards" with the ball for their clubs - breaking tackles and getting forward at speed. But they werent doing that last week in the Athletic grounds. Paddy Mc Bride, Niall Delargy and Marc Mc Garry are all good at getting forward and supporting the play. They must provide this aspect of their game tomorrow night. Standing marking their men is too easy for their opponents. They should be putting their men on the back foot - make them mark you!

We need much more pace at centre half forward too. Id have Dermot Mc Aleese in there from the start.

Would like to see Moses and Ruairi Mc Cann start, and does anyone know why isnt Matt Fitzpatrick on the panel? Great player.

If we get a few of these basics right we should have a great chance.

Cant use the Dub as you cant play the Anthem there--a requirement of the competition is that it is played before all games--QUB are non-political so refuse to play anthems there. Therefore there is no other pitch with a stand and floodlights available.

Poor that its in Newry

They defo played the anthem at the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon finals - twas on the tele
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 26, 2014, 07:54:07 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 25, 2014, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 25, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2014, 11:32:55 AM
Thoughts turning to Newry tomorrow night. Anyone hear why it couldn't be hosted at the Dub?

Going down with a proper fighting chance, but we will need to be much more expansive if we are to beat them. The main explosive energy was coming only from Owen Gallagher, and he cant be expected to make those lung bursting runs on his own, without proper support.

There are several players who specialise on making "yards" with the ball for their clubs - breaking tackles and getting forward at speed. But they werent doing that last week in the Athletic grounds. Paddy Mc Bride, Niall Delargy and Marc Mc Garry are all good at getting forward and supporting the play. They must provide this aspect of their game tomorrow night. Standing marking their men is too easy for their opponents. They should be putting their men on the back foot - make them mark you!

We need much more pace at centre half forward too. Id have Dermot Mc Aleese in there from the start.

Would like to see Moses and Ruairi Mc Cann start, and does anyone know why isnt Matt Fitzpatrick on the panel? Great player.

If we get a few of these basics right we should have a great chance.

Cant use the Dub as you cant play the Anthem there--a requirement of the competition is that it is played before all games--QUB are non-political so refuse to play anthems there. Therefore there is no other pitch with a stand and floodlights available.

Poor that its in Newry

They defo played the anthem at the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon finals - twas on the tele

They did. And apparentely got heavily fined for doin so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 26, 2014, 08:20:17 AM

They fined themselves?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2014, 03:08:14 PM
The best of luck to Fitzy, Gerard and the lads tonight in Pairc Esler. Its there to be won.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on March 26, 2014, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2014, 03:08:14 PM
The best of luck to Fitzy, Gerard and the lads tonight in Pairc Esler. Its there to be won.

The most optimistic poster on the board goes to............. 'Bannside'!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2014, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on March 26, 2014, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2014, 03:08:14 PM
The best of luck to Fitzy, Gerard and the lads tonight in Pairc Esler. Its there to be won.

The most optimistic poster on the board goes to............. 'Bannside'!!!!

Not a bad thing - we need more optimism in antrim!!

Hopefully we have learnt from the last day and can push on and win this tonight. Won't be easy but we have shown we can compete and have the beating of their defense so if we tighten up at the back here's hoping!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on March 26, 2014, 03:47:06 PM
There's two ways of looking at it, your way, or my way, history favours my way. But in saying that I wouldn't complain if the Armagh got dumped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2014, 09:22:38 AM
Any reports from the U21 game? I was following it on twitter. Sounds like they put in a spirited display but being down to 14 was just too much especially with a guy who scored 3-4 the last day being lost so early.

Sounded like the goalie made a few cracking saves and McBride did a lot of damage on the scoreboard.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2014, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 27, 2014, 09:22:38 AM
Any reports from the U21 game? I was following it on twitter. Sounds like they put in a spirited display but being down to 14 was just too much especially with a guy who scored 3-4 the last day being lost so early.

Sounded like the goalie made a few cracking saves and McBride did a lot of damage on the scoreboard.

No good--its not like you can say sure these boys will do well in the Senior Team. At Underage its all about here and now. Stupid to get sent off last night as we could've won that game and who knows beaten Donegal in the Semi. Think that same team beat Donegal in the Minor Championship a few years ago.

Waste.

Still no U-21 win since 06 and 03 before that. Before that was probably 1989.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 27, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
From report on the County Website

QuoteMcGrady was one of the men Armagh Manager Stevie McDonnell had publicly singled out as someone the Orchard men would need to stop. Well, he saw red after the linesman consulted the umpire, then the linesman. Naturally enough as soon as the red was flashed Lazarus resumed his position in the Armagh full back line.

Hardly the type of match reporting used expect from an official County Website I would have thought

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
Mc Gradys man set out to do a wind up job, and succeeded. We would almost definitely have won the match with him on the pitch, because when they left their extra man in heart of defence, it made it very hard to use the long ball to any effect.

Another one that will be remembered for getting away. We went toe to toe for 2 and a half hours and make no mistake Armagh knew they were in a game. But the stats will not remember those details.

I was along the line in 04 when we lost in Crossmaglen to a similar margin, and they went the whole way that year. So whilst we know we are as good as them in this age group, it will be interesting to see just how good Armagh really are.  I think they can beat Donegal, bvut cant see them troubling Cavan.

Credit to players and management for emptying the tank. We cant ask for more than that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 27, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 27, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
From report on the County Website

QuoteMcGrady was one of the men Armagh Manager Stevie McDonnell had publicly singled out as someone the Orchard men would need to stop. Well, he saw red after the linesman consulted the umpire, then the linesman. Naturally enough as soon as the red was flashed Lazarus resumed his position in the Armagh full back line.

Hardly the type of match reporting used expect from an official County Website I would have thought

Why not? Just reporting on the game I watched.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on March 27, 2014, 01:45:03 PM
Did you see the incident McGrady was sent off for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 27, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 27, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 27, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
From report on the County Website

QuoteMcGrady was one of the men Armagh Manager Stevie McDonnell had publicly singled out as someone the Orchard men would need to stop. Well, he saw red after the linesman consulted the umpire, then the linesman. Naturally enough as soon as the red was flashed Lazarus resumed his position in the Armagh full back line.

Hardly the type of match reporting used expect from an official County Website I would have thought

Why not? Just reporting on the game I watched.

It is not the type of reporting that I as an Antrim supporter want to see on our official county website. However it is befitting and in keeping with the standard of the rest of it I will give you that Brendan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 27, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 27, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 27, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
From report on the County Website

QuoteMcGrady was one of the men Armagh Manager Stevie McDonnell had publicly singled out as someone the Orchard men would need to stop. Well, he saw red after the linesman consulted the umpire, then the linesman. Naturally enough as soon as the red was flashed Lazarus resumed his position in the Armagh full back line.

Hardly the type of match reporting used expect from an official County Website I would have thought

Why not? Just reporting on the game I watched.

As a spectator you are well within your right to call it as it is and may very well be true. I'm suggesting your inferences aren't befitting of a report on the official county website. I find it strange that that needs to be explained
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on March 28, 2014, 11:24:24 AM
To be fair i think brendan does a great job. as far as i know he was the outgoing county pro, im not sure if anyone else stepped up to the plate & that is why brendan is still continuing to act in this role.

we would be giving off if there wasnt a short report written.

im sure if it was off the ball, not many seen the incident!

its always the one who retaliates that gets caught as they say  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 28, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Jeez such a load of rubbish from a few individuals making comment on a 'match report'.
How many of those fair minded individuals were at the game?....None probably.
How many of those 'fair minded commentators' would have made complimentary comment if Brendan had noted that young O'Grady deserved to be sent off?
Dammed if you do .............................etc etc springs to mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
Brendan does a good job under what must be very trying circumstances. Personally I don't mind seeing him wear his heart on his sleeve. He was at the game on Wednesday and just like the rest of us felt the frustration of seeing a rare victory turn to a defeat on the back of an incident, which may, or may not have been entirely pre-meditated.

Mc Grady has his side of the story to tell and its one of total provocation from the start. And to describe the way the Armagh player got to his feet after the red was flashed could not be described better than "Lazarus like". And if that's the term used on our county website - well under the circumstances I think it couldn't have been described any more accurately.

You would have needed to have been there........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2014, 01:58:47 PM
Just going by the eye witness accounts HS which have been handed down from generation to generation for the last 2000 years - So they must be true....LOL.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on March 28, 2014, 02:21:16 PM
Hogan Stand- Antrim ranked 32 from 33, 33 being New York. Bit severe , cant see how they figured waterford or  London were ahead of us but doesn't matter. The only way is up now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on March 28, 2014, 05:28:44 PM
Baker and Paddy have been a resounding success! Why has he got such an easy ride in comparison to Dawson? Let's be truthful Bradley's reign has been brutal to date. And I don't think he has the skills to turn it around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on March 28, 2014, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on March 28, 2014, 05:28:44 PM
Baker and Paddy have been a resounding success! Why has he got such an easy ride in comparison to Dawson? Let's be truthful Bradley's reign has been brutal to date. And I don't think he has the skills to turn it around.

Can't understand that myself,the Baker boys have been a disaster so far,maybe Glensman(Paddy) can come on and explain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 28, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
Brendan does a good job under what must be very trying circumstances.

Trying, tiring, downheartening, etc etc..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 29, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
Quote from: glens abu on March 28, 2014, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on March 28, 2014, 05:28:44 PM
Baker and Paddy have been a resounding success! Why has he got such an easy ride in comparison to Dawson? Let's be truthful Bradley's reign has been brutal to date. And I don't think he has the skills to turn it around.

Can't understand that myself,the Baker boys have been a disaster so far,maybe Glensman(Paddy) can come on and explain.

Glensman...me?! Paddy?! No sir!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 30, 2014, 02:40:14 PM
Ant 3-15 Lon 1-10 FT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Got rid of the wooden spoon tag yesterday so thankful for that.

London not great but we looked decent at times, opening them up many times in the second half in particular. Tomas back and he looks raring to go, and Bam flying in the corner.

If I had a concern its once again how we miss so many clear cut goal chances. In the second half alone yesterday we could have had three or four more goals - ones that you`d expect to be finished off.

There were a few times a forward could have offloaded to a man in a clearly better position, but chose to go for their own shot. Ok a couple of these did register as scores, but other days it could come back to haunt us. No place for selfishness in a team sport.

If we can brush up on some of this silly stuff, we can grab another couple of points against Clare who will be coming to Creggan on Sunday looking for promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 31, 2014, 02:00:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 31, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Got rid of the wooden spoon tag yesterday so thankful for that.

London not great but we looked decent at times, opening them up many times in the second half in particular. Tomas back and he looks raring to go, and Bam flying in the corner.

If I had a concern its once again how we miss so many clear cut goal chances. In the second half alone yesterday we could have had three or four more goals - ones that you`d expect to be finished off.

There were a few times a forward could have offloaded to a man in a clearly better position, but chose to go for their own shot. Ok a couple of these did register as scores, but other days it could come back to haunt us. No place for selfishness in a team sport.

If we can brush up on some of this silly stuff, we can grab another couple of points against Clare who will be coming to Creggan on Sunday looking for promotion.

Is McGourty still on the panel?

Fermanagh staying in division 3 and looking decent so we will need to up it a lot to be beating them!

I still think we have a chance. I know the league table shouldn't lie and all but I still think we're better than we were last year and have a fighting chance at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 31, 2014, 02:11:43 PM
Was it the A grade Feile that Ballymena won??

Great to see them doing well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on March 31, 2014, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2014, 02:00:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 31, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Got rid of the wooden spoon tag yesterday so thankful for that.

London not great but we looked decent at times, opening them up many times in the second half in particular. Tomas back and he looks raring to go, and Bam flying in the corner.

If I had a concern its once again how we miss so many clear cut goal chances. In the second half alone yesterday we could have had three or four more goals - ones that you`d expect to be finished off.

There were a few times a forward could have offloaded to a man in a clearly better position, but chose to go for their own shot. Ok a couple of these did register as scores, but other days it could come back to haunt us. No place for selfishness in a team sport.

If we can brush up on some of this silly stuff, we can grab another couple of points against Clare who will be coming to Creggan on Sunday looking for promotion.

Is McGourty still on the panel?

Fermanagh staying in division 3 and looking decent so we will need to up it a lot to be beating them!

I still think we have a chance. I know the league table shouldn't lie and all but I still think we're better than we were last year and have a fighting chance at least.

According to the Irish News CJ McGourty came on as a sub yesterday.

Can't share your optimism about the championship.  Fermanagh will stuff us.  We've conceded 11-71 in six Div 4 games including 3-15 against the bottom side.  That's a rough "average" of 2-11 per game.  Our two wins are against London and Waterford (who lost to London).  OK maybe the black card has opened things up a bit and promoted Tipp have conceded 5-71, but we're giving away too many goals.  God be with the days when a couple of good performances were subsequently described as a "false dawn".  We're not even at the false dawn stage at the minute!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Yes it was WC. Great to see Ballymena with that sort of material to work with. Credit to a few people for this, but Jim Brady (Lamh Dearg) needs a mention. He was primary school principal in Portglenone for a few years and he did a great job promoting the games with our juveniles.  He obviously has taken the same cultural identity promotion to Ballymena where he is now principal in the boys primary there. Not saying he is doing this on his own, but he would be making sure that a lot of them get off to a great start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 31, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Great stuff bannside. For Antrim to progress a strong Ballymena club would certainly help matters!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
Tony Mc Atamney - one of the true Antrim footballing legends  passed away yesterday. His funeral is at 12 midday tomorrow (Wed2nd) in All Saints, Ballymena. Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 01, 2014, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
Tony Mc Atamney - one of the true Antrim footballing legends  passed away yesterday. His funeral is at 12 midday tomorrow (Wed2nd) in All Saints, Ballymena. Rest in peace.

I believe Tony was captain of the side that played in the 1970 Ulster Final.  His son Enda played for Antrim too in the late 80s early 90s.  I think both played Railway Cup too?

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Tony belonged to a different era. In his hey day he was one of the biggest names in Ulster football, never mind Antrim. He was a regular on Railway cup teams when a that competition drew crowds of thirty thousand, and a medal was up there with an All -Ireland.

I played alongside Tony in his latter years when he moved to live in Ballymena, and although he would have been forty plus, Tony would have been winning all the dirty ball and setting things up on a plate for us. He was instrumental in dragging All Saints, as a player and later a manager from divisions four three and two, into division one of the Antrim league.

Often that Sunday activity was preceded by a Saturday at Eaton Park where Tony lined out for the seconds, then thirds, then fourths and fifths until he was almost fifty years of age. Naturally this was followed by manys a Saturday night of heavy socialising, and then of course all good to go again on the Sunday with All Saints. Ready for the battle with anyone looking to take advantage of some of us lightweight corner forwards.

How many times did he win all sorts of hospital balls, only to lay them up for others to look good. He was that sort of man. Big in every way. A giant of our times. Thanks for the memories Tony.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on April 01, 2014, 02:43:33 PM
very well said Bannside...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 01, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Tony belonged to a different era. In his hey day he was one of the biggest names in Ulster football, never mind Antrim. He was a regular on Railway cup teams when a that competition drew crowds of thirty thousand, and a medal was up there with an All -Ireland.

I played alongside Tony in his latter years when he moved to live in Ballymena, and although he would have been forty plus, Tony would have been winning all the dirty ball and setting things up on a plate for us. He was instrumental in dragging All Saints, as a player and later a manager from divisions four three and two, into division one of the Antrim league.

Often that Sunday activity was preceded by a Saturday at Eaton Park where Tony lined out for the seconds, then thirds, then fourths and fifths until he was almost fifty years of age. Naturally this was followed by manys a Saturday night of heavy socialising, and then of course all good to go again on the Sunday with All Saints. Ready for the battle with anyone looking to take advantage of some of us lightweight corner forwards.

How many times did he win all sorts of hospital balls, only to lay them up for others to look good. He was that sort of man. Big in every way. A giant of our times. Thanks for the memories Tony.

Didn't know him but knew of him if you know what I mean, sounds like a legend of his time, sorry to hear of his and his family's loss,

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2014, 05:41:51 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 31, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Great stuff bannside. For Antrim to progress a strong Ballymena club would certainly help matters!

Was at the match on Sunday, what a big team Ballymena are at that age level, what kids are eating nowadays I could have done with myself :(

Anyways they have a few decent lads and should do well in the Felie competition. As for translating that into senior well that's another story. I thought though they maybe had too many 'managers' on the line all sorts of instructions being shouted out when not needed in fairness, I now we all get hot headed sometimes but cool heads make cool decisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 06, 2014, 06:28:09 PM
OK somebody has to say it...BAKER OUT!! :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 06, 2014, 08:13:55 PM
I thought Antrim were certs to be promoted - and I mean pure certs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 07, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 06, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
It was bad with Jody Gormley but this is far worse.

WTF is going on?

Imagine the reaction had Frank Dawson presided over this league "campaign"!!  He'd have been chased down the Andytown Road a couple of games ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 07, 2014, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 06, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
It was bad with Jody Gormley but this is far worse.

WTF is going on?

Imagine the reaction had Frank Dawson presided over this league "campaign"!!  He'd have been chased down the Andytown Road a couple of games ago.

Absolute disgrace and think CB need to take a look at themselves when they allow someone like Tyrone Eastwood to make decision as to who manages the county team.Baker had his couple of years in the sun but left with his team in decline so why bring him back.Hope Brendan can explane the reasoning for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 07, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
I see the other Baker boy our great coach Paddy is tweeting that league means nothing only for playing in, championships are for winning  ::)I hope he is right this time as a couple of months ago sure winning Div4 was a formality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on April 07, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 07, 2014, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 06, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
It was bad with Jody Gormley but this is far worse.

WTF is going on?

Imagine the reaction had Frank Dawson presided over this league "campaign"!!  He'd have been chased down the Andytown Road a couple of games ago.

Absolute disgrace and think CB need to take a look at themselves when they allow someone like Tyrone Eastwood to make decision as to who manages the county team.Baker had his couple of years in the sun but left with his team in decline so why bring him back.Hope Brendan can explane the reasoning for that.

What's the Tyrone Eastwood ref about GA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 07, 2014, 01:36:27 PM
Quote from: CSC on April 07, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 07, 2014, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 07, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 06, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
It was bad with Jody Gormley but this is far worse.

WTF is going on?

Imagine the reaction had Frank Dawson presided over this league "campaign"!!  He'd have been chased down the Andytown Road a couple of games ago.

Absolute disgrace and think CB need to take a look at themselves when they allow someone like Tyrone Eastwood to make decision as to who manages the county team.Baker had his couple of years in the sun but left with his team in decline so why bring him back.Hope Brendan can explane the reasoning for that.

What's the Tyrone Eastwood ref about GA

Well he sat on the interview panel and dug his heels in for the Baker to be given the job and our weak county chairman gave into him and made it happen.the term football and snipe shooting comes to mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 08, 2014, 06:20:31 PM
I have never heard such vitriolic rubbish than that spouted by several on the current county management probably emanating from ditch men who were not at the last game, and who possibly do not know how to get to creggan.
If in fact in attendance did those 'experts' not see that we were missing quite a few regulars and in a 'dead rubber' situation such was a good managerial decision as the explore the depth of the bench with the championship on the horizon.
If there was an All Ireland title for complaining sure we would be visiting the capital quite frequently.
Sure the management can only work with what is available and although I may be quite dim I certainly am most familiar with football affairs in the county I just cannot come up with any talented footballers (those who have decided not to make themselves available, Gallagher, Kelly etc excluded) who could replace those in the present squad.
Time to give the present management a break. :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on April 08, 2014, 08:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 05, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
Think Baker will only have to have his squad dawdling on the ground to be a huge improvement on what went before. :P

'perspective'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2014, 11:40:55 AM
Country you are some bumpkin alright.

The "Vitriol" you speak of is practically non existent in terms of comparison to what any manager would get in any self respecting county who wants to be competitive. If there was a league table for vitriol we would be at the bottom of that table as well.

Where is this unbelievable level of vitriol you speak of? I know a lot of very pissed off Antrim supporters who havent opened their mouth, but who loyally put up with mediocre year after year. If anything we should be making a lot more of a nuisance, because by saying nothing some people might get the impression that all is ok. Its not okay, its rotten to the core and if you have any offence at what I say CB or want to flush things out a bit then I am your man. What we have been served up in RECENT years, by our county officers with regard to football has been nothing short of a disgrace.

Until we DO stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH we will continue to get people making football decisions who are totally unqualified to do so. So far out of their depth that its criminal. And for the rest of us to sit idly by and watch this happen is even worse again.

A vote of no confidence cant be far away, that's how bad it is. Exactly what might actually happen in other counties WHO ACTUALLY CARE.

I mean how long can this charade go on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
Sincere congratulations to Cavan on winning their fourth Ulster U-21 title in a row.

When our seniors destroyed them in Clones in 09, Cavan football was at an all time low.

This instigated a football committee overseeing new structures, level of support, quality of coaching, and attention to detail. Businesses saw the sea change too and rolled in behind. They invested their hard earned cash in the new professional structures. They saw the plan and backed it.

This plan  involved making minor and Under-21 priority "areas" of development. And last night was further evidence of that progression curve. And meanwhile their senior team delivers get promotion into Division two with seven wins out of seven!

Well done to them. It shows what can be done with proper vision and leadership. Something Antrim are severely lacking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2014, 01:54:56 PM
hear what you are saying Bannside...........but..............democracy is a serious weapon, and in response I would hear the CB say 'put your name forward and let the people decide'.
As for vitriol in those comments on our present management sure i have yet to see any of those involved kicking a single ball thus far (perhaps we would be better served if they had).
Face the facts Bannside we just do not have the talent and I see you do not make comment as to which individuals you feel would bring improvement.
A couple of clubs are way ahead of the pack in our county and it is a fact that the top division is miles ahead of the rest.............which team in division two would even give St Galls, Cargin, or L Dhearg a game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 10, 2014, 01:58:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2014, 01:54:56 PM
hear what you are saying Bannside...........but..............democracy is a serious weapon, and in response I would hear the CB say 'put your name forward and let the people decide'.
As for vitriol in those comments on our present management sure i have yet to see any of those involved kicking a single ball thus far (perhaps we would be better served if they had).
Face the facts Bannside we just do not have the talent and I see you do not make comment as to which individuals you feel would bring improvement.
A couple of clubs are way ahead of the pack in our county and it is a fact that the top division is miles ahead of the rest.............which team in division two would even give St Galls, Cargin, or L Dhearg a game?

Would any Div 2 teams in Derry give Ballinderry a game??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2014, 01:54:56 PM
hear what you are saying Bannside...........but..............democracy is a serious weapon, and in response I would hear the CB say 'put your name forward and let the people decide'.
As for vitriol in those comments on our present management sure i have yet to see any of those involved kicking a single ball thus far (perhaps we would be better served if they had).
Face the facts Bannside we just do not have the talent and I see you do not make comment as to which individuals you feel would bring improvement.
A couple of clubs are way ahead of the pack in our county and it is a fact that the top division is miles ahead of the rest.............which team in division two would even give St Galls, Cargin, or L Dhearg a game?

Do you not mean which team in division 1??

Division 2 is the same in a lot of counties bar places like Tyrone(maybe Monaghan) where the standard is very close without anyone stand-out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2014, 03:08:42 PM
A couple of points on that CB.

Firstly I am not anti -Baker, Paddy, Fitzy or Honda. They will be seriously disappointed with the way things are turning out themselves, and I have no intention of adding to their misery. Once they got the gig I decided to fully support them and this rant has nothing to do with them. Its about US, and how WE cant ever seem to get our act together. So this is not the place to start saying this one and that one would have done better.

But what I do know is that four recent county captains were canvassed about a wish list of managers, and came up with four names. None of them was Baker. Seeing that you asked the question!

What I am against is the lack of football nous (or ambition) or both, by those tasked with making football decisions. That includes structures and systems that are by amongst the least progressive in the country.

The top item on their agenda is to stifle the budget where and when possible. Its already operating at just 50% of the hurling budget, and this is the reason why several interesting candidates (John Rafferty, Seamus Mc Eneaney etc) were overlooked.

Secondly, the comment that we lack the talent is not true. Bakers first comment was that this years panel was stronger than in 09. I spoke to Paddy a month ago and he believes our players are every bit as good as those in Derry. Thats a fact, and knowing the majority of those Derry players myself (I managed in Division one in Derry for 5 years) I would not dispute that.

What Derry have and we do not -  is organisation. John Bosco (Specialist Joinery) puts a fortune in there each year - but in doing, as a successful businessman he insists on BEST PRACTICE and VALUE FOR MONEY. Doe you see many businessmen queueing up in Antrim CB. No. I wonder why not.

Gerard O Kane says what they are experiencing this year is a mile better than anything he has seen in 10 years playing county football. Brian Mc Ivor and Paddy Tally deliver every time. Derry have slipped quietly into second place in Division One.

Finally, to answer your first question. Putting my name forward has nothing to do with anything. I could never sit there like a yes man and listen to so much drivel. I wouldnt last a week.

But if we are to do admit we are the new laughing stock of the country, and are prepared to have an emergency meeting, with no holds barred and everything on the table, in a genuine attempt to do what Cavan done - then I will be the first person there.

Is that likely to happen CB?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on April 11, 2014, 12:50:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2014, 01:54:56 PM
hear what you are saying Bannside...........but..............democracy is a serious weapon, and in response I would hear the CB say 'put your name forward and let the people decide'.
As for vitriol in those comments on our present management sure i have yet to see any of those involved kicking a single ball thus far (perhaps we would be better served if they had).
Face the facts Bannside we just do not have the talent and I see you do not make comment as to which individuals you feel would bring improvement.
A couple of clubs are way ahead of the pack in our county and it is a fact that the top division is miles ahead of the rest.............which team in division two would even give St Galls, Cargin, or L Dhearg a game?

I quoted you above where you said Baker would 'only have to have his squad dawdling on the ground' and now you're saying that we don't have the talent. I'm not sure what the f**k is going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2014, 10:00:04 AM
Interested to see how Antrim minors get on tomorrow against Donegal. We have won two out of three, but Donegal beat Tyrone and that is some scalp at this level, as Tyrone looked a bit special when they played us a month ago.

Hopefully we will be competitive and get a result in this final league round match. In Ballymena at 12 midday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 11, 2014, 10:18:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2014, 10:00:04 AM
Interested to see how Antrim minors get on tomorrow against Donegal. We have won two out of three, but Donegal beat Tyrone and that is some scalp at this level, as Tyrone looked a bit special when they played us a month ago.

Hopefully we will be competitive and get a result in this final league round match. In Ballymena at 12 midday.

Yes, I saw in the local papers here that Tyrone gave Fermanagh an almighty hiding a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2014, 11:23:08 AM
True, but then Donegal came out and beat Tyrone the following week! Having said that when Tyrone played Antrim they were keeping a panel of what looked close to 40 players. I left our match with them thinking I had seen the AI champs, but then they go and lose to Donegal.

Shows ya what I know lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on April 11, 2014, 12:27:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2014, 10:00:04 AM
Interested to see how Antrim minors get on tomorrow against Donegal. We have won two out of three, but Donegal beat Tyrone and that is some scalp at this level, as Tyrone looked a bit special when they played us a month ago.

Hopefully we will be competitive and get a result in this final league round match. In Ballymena at 12 midday.

Tyrone put out a weaker team against Donegal to give young players a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
Donegal too strong for Antrim minors today. They too also have a serious team this year. Height, power and pace all over the field, and quite frankly we had no answer to them. It will take a super team to beat them.

We had beaten Derry and Fermanagh previously and did well at times against Tyrone, but at times today Donegal looked at different level altogether. They were awesome especially the way they were all buying into a running style of play that is very effective.

Our lads have been putting in good work under a very dedicated and good calibre management team, but today we saw the difference between some very committed (and capable) men doing their very best to remain competitive, and a county who have set out their stall in pursuit of winning All - Ireland titles.

I heard at first hand the level of support the Donegal management team receive to make things possible. As one example, when the match was over a Mc Loones Catering Van pulled into the car park  to feed the Donegal lads. It had travelled all the way from Donegal.

Once again, just like after the Tyrone match, our lads watched them as they got fed. Beaten on the pitch - Hammered off it!

I went to the match fairly optimistic about a showing, and came away with a reality check about the gap that is opening up between the counties who are passionate about success, and those who pretend to care. Not on a level playing field is the term that comes to mind.







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 13, 2014, 09:00:22 PM
According to today's Sunday Life Kevin McGourty up in court in couple of weeks on historic charges of "indecent behaviour & assaulting three women".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 13, 2014, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael link=topic= :-[ :P :P21.msg1341382#msg1341382 date=1397419222
According to today's Sunday Life Kevin McGourty up in court in couple of weeks on historic charges of "indecent behaviour & assaulting three women".

You are one sad bastard. :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on April 14, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
What's this about CJ McGourty being axed from the Baker's plans?

"Antrim forward CJ McGourty has been axed from the panel in advance of the Ulster championship quarter-final against Fermanagh on June 1.

It is understood that manager Liam Bradley regards the prodigiously-talented McGourty as surplus to requirements as the Saffrons bid to regain a measure of credibility following a disappointing campaign in Division Four of the Allianz League.

And McGourty may not be the only familiar face missing.

Midfield strongman Sean McVeigh incurred a red card while playing for his club All Saints Ballymena against Cargin in the quarter-final of the O'Cahan Cup and depending on the contents of referee Paul Hanna's report, he could miss early championship action.

It is believed that McVeigh, who played for London before returning to assist Antrim, collided with Hanna during the game.

Like McGourty, he brings experience to a side whose morale has been damaged during a league campaign at the outset of which hopes were high.

McGourty's exclusion would come as a surprise because even though he had an indifferent outing in Antrim's last game against Clare, he appeared to have recaptured his scoring form.

But he has been overshadowed with the ball-winning skills and creative talents of Michael Pollock and the red-hot form being displayed by Brian 'Bam' Neeson, who scored 1-7 against London and 2-6 against Carlow.

However, with former skipper Paddy Cunningham still recovering from injury, Bradley's options up front could be more limited.

On the plus side, Tomas McCann bounced back from injury to score 2-3 in the win over London, while Under 21 goalkeeper Ronan Hanna has been impressive in two starts at senior level."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2014, 10:46:37 AM
When you live in a county full of fly by nights, you can't compete against counties who really give a fcuk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 14, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
Yeah heard CJ axed alright and the young Baker fighting with the Da.Two clowns to put in charge of any team never mind our county.Did anyone on CB never think why Derry wouldn't have the Baker but he is OK for us. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wherefromreferee? on April 16, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/27047108?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on April 16, 2014, 09:34:32 AM
I wish the paper would print the full story as to why they 3 amigos have walked as they say!!

i am told cj was dropped for turning up to a league game in an unfit state to play & his 2 fellow club men walked in support of him.

the 3 are all important players but think we need to move on & turn the page!!

look at derry now after the difficult decision brina mciver had to make, they havent looked back!!

the paper would make it out that the 3 of them are victimns in this, it was cj fault for getting the boot & the other 2 made their own decisions.

i agree totally with the decision the management have made, you dont expect to get off with that at any level least of all senior county!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
Yet again we are a laughing stock :-[http://gaaboard.com/board/Smileys/default/cry.gif >

So much for the hope of Fermanagh being in disarray with the Quigleys - now we're just as bad if not worse.

Between this, the casement debacle etc etc it is can be very trying supporting this county >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2014, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 16, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
Yet again we are a laughing stock :-[http://gaaboard.com/board/Smileys/default/cry.gif >

So much for the hope of Fermanagh being in disarray with the Quigleys - now we're just as bad if not worse.

Between this, the casement debacle etc etc it is can be very trying supporting this county >:(

I think the county could actually turn around it financial fortunes, by doing a fly on the wall docusoap - sure where else would you get the drama of the past few weeks.

It would be prime time viewing  >:(

Laughing stock is putting us in too good a light at the moment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 16, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Got to laugh at all these comparisons with Derry, regarding management, financial investors and players. If you are looking a blue print you should be looking at Cavan, not Derry.

Antrim have some very good players (Niblock, McCann etc) but many who have an inflated ego for whatever reason. Baker should never have went back even though he himself said this was a stronger panel of players than his first stint. Antrim need a system, from their league campaign (from speaking to friends) they don't have an obvious one. With CJ (suprise, suprise) and co dropping off the panel there seems to be an obvious disharmoney. The fact Antrim had a very poor league campaign there will be many questioning Baker already, as pointed out before Dawson got hammered last year. Paddy tweeting about 'Leagues are for playing in' is a bit disrespecful to the supporters not to mention that league form does carry some merit going to Championship.

Antrim can beat Fermanagh no doubt about it, they have the talent but unfortunately you need much more than that to make progress.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 16, 2014, 10:39:48 AM
Sure we are in no trouble at all......................those who inhabit this site seem to be absolute experts in all everything and we can look forward to an all conquering Antrim team next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 16, 2014, 10:42:50 AM
Quote from: Man Marker on April 11, 2014, 12:27:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2014, 10:00:04 AM
Interested to see how Antrim minors get on tomorrow against Donegal. We have won two out of three, but Donegal beat Tyrone and that is some scalp at this level, as Tyrone looked a bit special when they played us a month ago.

Hopefully we will be competitive and get a result in this final league round match. In Ballymena at 12 midday.

Tyrone put out a weaker team against Donegal to give young players a chance.

True, a lot of the key players for Tyrone minors weren't playing against Donegal.  McKenna should be untouchable this year if you look at how good he was last year in leading them to the All Ireland final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 16, 2014, 10:59:26 AM
Culchie I think you may have got your facts wrong. There is a lot going on within the county team that is a joke to day the least . Your facts surrounding cjs departure are also wrong or so I am told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on April 16, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
unless i am told different i will believe the side of the story i was told!

too many egos involved i think!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2014, 11:40:29 AM
With six weeks until we play Fermanagh there is still every chance that we can go down there and get a result. No matter which players come and go, we should still have a decent 15 out on duty. If they put in 6 weeks really hard work it will still be 50 v 50 on the day.

I dont buy into this recent shitetalk that Antrim have no footballers. Or Bakers latest soundbite that Antrim football " is where it is", as if we have no players worth talking about. I find that insulting. He took the job thinking we had a better panel than in 09.

Look at it this way. Less than 2 years ago we gave Monaghan their fill of it in Clones. Since then they appointed Malachy O Rourke who I strongly advocated for the Antrim job. He was available at that time. I am not in the least surprised that Monaghan have since won both the Ulster championship and have made the journey from division three to division one in that short time.

The other man I was keen on was Brian Mc Ivor but there was a slight window between the job vacancy and his appointment in Derry, and we didnt get a chance to make that move in time, and when Derry made their move we had no chance. Look at them now. From disarray under John Brennan, top players not making themselves available and reports of disharmony - to a division one final in the blink of an eye.

Two great operators, who I have absolutely no doubt would have had Antrim Football in great shape by now. Anyone who thinks we have no players in Antrim is badly mistaken, and this fallacy is being used as a smokescreen for some terrible performances. We beat Cavan in last years league and they are now 16 places higher than us in league rankings.

In the right hands can we do a Cavan, a Derry or a Monaghan. Of course we can.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whiskeysteve on April 16, 2014, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2014, 11:40:29 AM

In the right hands can we do a Cavan, a Derry or a Monaghan. Of course we can.

Agree with you on the potential of the current crop of players up to this point. Even if you get an elite management in the starting point is so mucher lower than the above examples. McIver took Derry from a low division 2 status to div 1 final. O'Rourke took Monaghan from a strong division 3 team to Ulster title/div 2 champs. Antrim have just finished 3rd last in division 4 - surely there is no chance of emulating the above achievements any time soon?

Right enough Cavan were at a very low ebb a few years back but they have a conveyor belt of U21s. Even Derry are currently backboned by players who won AI minor in 2002 and were AI minor runners up in 2007, as well as seniors who won the Div 1 final in 2008 and were finalists in 2009.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 16, 2014, 12:54:57 PM
Heard Paddy wasnt happy with CJs attitude  :-[ :-[ Kettle and pot come to mind.Another mess before championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2014, 01:19:24 PM
Im sure the Irish News are all over CJ at the minute for some sensational headlines for tomorrow.

Whiskeysteve I would gladly settle for a year or two of continued mediocrity IF we were using our resources to build solid platforms at minor and under 21 level. Your 100% right. Cavan have showed what can be done from the bottom up.

Lets say our senior football  preparations cost £900 per week in reimbursements/mileage expenses and other titbits.

Id be in favour of letting a good loyal Antrim insider toil away with the seniors for a few years, many who in the past have done it for practically nothing. And if worst case scenario, that meant division four football I could live with that..... IF..... we were making tangible progress at minor and under 21 level.

The £900 I would make available to the minor and u-21 management teams for reasonable expenses - similar to taking a club team. I would build 3 top men into each programme, constituting strength and conditioning and all the skills development etc.

I would make it attractive to be part of this management period. The minor management after two or three years would progress with their players to under 21, and the under 21 management move up to seniors. So their would always be a huge incentive, both financially and from a management opportunity to progress.

And crucial to this is a joined up plan, and a vision/blueprint that can be sold to 20-30 businessmen to get behind - which they would do if they saw an achievable vision and shared that.

Put it this way. After what I saw Donegal minors doing to our lads on saturday, we really need a three or four year programme to develop our players just to be competitive. This involves a lt of work, and resources.

With this in mind, would anyone agree that whatever money we do have for football should be used wisely building a stronger platform from the bottom up?

Just one of several ideas that might be worth discussing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on April 16, 2014, 01:48:34 PM
I am assuming that their is no money for the county teams. How can a county the size of Antrim with the population its has, and half its clubs in Belfast (the largest city in the north by far) not generate money for the county teams. Am I not getting it, or is incompetence with regards to generating incoming and sponsorship. Can someone explain it to me please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on April 16, 2014, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: glens abu on April 16, 2014, 12:54:57 PM
Heard Paddy wasnt happy with CJs attitude  :-[ :-[ Kettle and pot come to mind.Another mess before championship.

Delighted that you have him, rather than us, look at what has happened since Mc Ivor ignored him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Shawshank Id call it gross incompetence.

We have nothing. No plan vision blueprint or formula. No football board, no criteria for who should make appointments, no knowledge of what it takes, no check or balances, no tough questioning by club delegates. No equity of funding compared to hurling.

Nothing at all.

What we do have is what I call the "loadaballs" strategy.

Get  a manager and give him a bag with some footballs. After that your on your own.

What businessman in their right mind would support that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on April 16, 2014, 03:11:29 PM
Is man management a thing of the past?  Havent seen Irish News -in fact havent bought it in 2 years due to the complete sensationalist reporting (suppose they have to these days) - hotlines everywhere!  Especially ******* *******!  But anyway, im with bannside, the aftermath will be interesting, whatever angle they take!

Heres the issue for me!

Apparently (although i would hold fire until i witness it myself) the McGourty fella has been at more training sessions, and actually took part more this year than ever before!

I will lend you all this theory!

Cj was asked back by Baker, so as Baker could give him enough rope...

Low and behold CJ got stuck in and did the training!  But...and wait for it...

Antrim had a sh*te campaign!

Mmmmmm - what will we do son????

Sure everyone will believe us if we just blame CJ - get rid and blame him! boy, wolfe, all that jazz!

But maybe, just maybe - this time its not true!

Anyway - the debacle that will surely now unfold is bound to be ideal Ulster Championship Prep! :P :P 

Sure what other county would allow it! :o :o

One out, all out!

I'll be following New York this year on our new sky deal! Now wouldnt that be ironic... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 16, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Shawshank Id call it gross incompetence.

We have nothing. No plan vision blueprint or formula. No football board, no criteria for who should make appointments, no knowledge of what it takes, no check or balances, no tough questioning by club delegates. No equity of funding compared to hurling.

Nothing at all.

What we do have is what I call the "loadaballs" strategy.

Get  a manager and give him a bag with some footballs. After that your on your own.

What businessman in their right mind would support that?

Could you put some meat on the bones of that one Bannside? i.e What is the difference and what reasons have been given for the disparity?

On a more general point, lets not think that the take it or leave it attitude endemic in this county isn't a major factor in our inability to compete. Starts from the ground up and the sad fact is we are a very fragile fabric with a very very small amount of genuine gaa folk  only capable in the most part at keeping the ship afloat in their clubs. Its hard to build ambition into county teams when the support base doesn't exist in the right numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 16, 2014, 03:36:26 PM
Heard a wee story about a player who was taken off threw his jersey at baker and told him where to stick his team. Didnt go to training on the Tuesday and took him off to stag weekend without telli g anyone . No training apprarAnce the following week yet started the next game.
Oh and it wasnt CJ :).
I also heard that a certain clubs players are causing a lot of shite within camp .
Oh and it's not st galls :).
All hear day granted but I'm sure like every year the truth will eventually come out.
Shambles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 16, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
Some bitching done on this thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2014, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 16, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
Some bitching done on this thread.

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 16, 2014, 04:59:22 PM
I blame Neil McManus
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bingo on April 16, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 16, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
Some bitching done on this thread.

Now near enough, I came in to hear some gossip and stories and all it is, is hearsay, whispers and speculation.

Let it out lads FFS  ;)

In all seriousness, it seems like Antrim football is in a bad way. Shouldn't be the way for a county with so much potential and seems to lack leadership and good long-term planning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 16, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
One things for sure, it's never CJ McGourtys fault, the blame always lies elsewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
One things for sure, it's never CJ McGourtys fault, the blame always lies elsewhere.

Typical blame culture in antrim as per usual, who's give a fcuk who's at fault? as it's not the reason why Antrim haven't been competitive in DIV 4!! it's cause we are shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on April 16, 2014, 10:35:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
One things for sure, it's never CJ McGourtys fault, the blame always lies elsewhere.

Typical blame culture in antrim as per usual, who's give a fcuk who's at fault? as it's not the reason why Antrim haven't been competitive in DIV 4!! it's cause we are shite

Constructive as usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 16, 2014, 10:35:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
One things for sure, it's never CJ McGourtys fault, the blame always lies elsewhere.

Typical blame culture in antrim as per usual, who's give a fcuk who's at fault? as it's not the reason why Antrim haven't been competitive in DIV 4!! it's cause we are shite

Constructive as usual.

Constructive? Bannside has given plenty of constructive views on this, and I'm sure he's berated the county board members also over the years, but we are at the point were we are one of the worst teams in Ireland. But we'll continue to blame everything else bar the structures we have in place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 16, 2014, 11:03:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
One things for sure, it's never CJ McGourtys fault, the blame always lies elsewhere.

Typical blame culture in antrim as per usual, who's give a fcuk who's at fault? as it's not the reason why Antrim haven't been competitive in DIV 4!! it's cause we are shite

Antrim have plenty of good footballers and shouldn't have been struggling in Division4. Maybe it was mindset or cockiness that cost ye? McGourty only back with Antrim this year after a 3/4 year exile, a blow for Antrim ahead of the Chsmpionship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Toby Lerone on April 17, 2014, 09:24:09 AM
Still cannot understand how someone like Tyrone Eastwood should have final say in selecting the new management team. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 17, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2014, 10:54:08 AM
Quote from: Toby Lerone on April 17, 2014, 09:24:09 AM
Still cannot understand how someone like Tyrone Eastwood should have final say in selecting the new management team.
He's away from it all now though, isn't he?

Think it is unfair to be naming individuals when the full facts of their role in any 'process' are not completely known.

Lets just agree that we shouldnt have gone back to a manager that was clearly not a great option.
We have players who won't commit regardless of what is done for them
The atmosphere around the squad is tetchy at the best of times
Stag Parties and Holidays mid season are not tolerated in any other county
We are Div 4 for a reason and maybe this should be explained to some of our more ego centred players - grow up you are a Div 4 footballer (regardless of what you do with your club)
Just because the IN phones you every slow news day does not make you something special - they are filling copy and using you and Antrim woes to do so

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 17, 2014, 11:39:57 AM
A lot is known about that particular process though Nag. The dogs in the street know the two that voted for Baker, and the two that voted for Madden/Adams combo. And who was the first to blink.

Skull is right in that frankly not enough people care. One thing for definite is our club delegates to county committee dont care. They sit like muppets and nod and agree and couldnt give a toss whether its Butcher or Baker as long as they keep their clubs right.

Its a long time since we had someone like Joe Mc Cartan or Geordie Mc Guckin who stood up and asked simple questions that kept county officers on their toes.

Like " Are we happy to give our county managerial job to a man who is also taking a club team at the same time?" or" If this would  never happen in any other county why are we happy to let this situation continue in Antrim".

I could think of twenty more too. At the minute we are getting whipped because we don't even have the gumption to stand up for ourselves.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 17, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
I agree with Bannside 110%. Until the clubs stand up and say enough is enough we won't improve. To many delegates go to county meetings just to show representation from a club or maybe to get away from the other half and don't contribute anything to the meeting.

Questions have to be asked why did we appoint a man who was managing in Derry Div2 last year and wasn't good enough for the a Derry job? Was there an oul mates act on the go between him and the county?

Then again who is to say that it would of been any different under Malachy O'Rourke? Certain players seem to think that unless they have their name in the press week in week out they are not a proper county player. A big ego is an awful thing.

I would be happy enough with a few years in div4 under a decent management with a plan, who will build from the foundations over 3/4 years and make this county competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 18, 2014, 11:39:53 AM
2 physios now gone too I heard. All is rosy then :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 18, 2014, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 18, 2014, 11:39:53 AM
2 physios now gone too I heard. All is rosy then :o

Pity, the way things are going we might have needed them to play!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 18, 2014, 12:42:26 PM
Hearing horror stories about county finances. Things could get very messy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clinker on April 18, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2014, 12:42:26 PM
Hearing horror stories about county finances. Things could get very messy.

It might help out if a social club was set up with any profits going to the county.
Just an idea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on April 18, 2014, 01:11:33 PM
Sorry -when I read a previous post I thought the Bradley boys were away - I thought it read that the two physcos were gone not the two physios
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on April 18, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2014, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on April 18, 2014, 02:00:12 PM
What do you think the recent legal action has cost so far Hardstation?
The two major hits they took were for
The illegal closure of the club
Industrial tribunal for not paying the full time bar staff a washer in redundancy.

The total is over £100,000

Never worry, that'll be siphoned off the money for the new stadium, administration and consultation fees or what not.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 18, 2014, 11:09:30 PM
Worst county in Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 18, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
Going well.

Heads won't roll.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 19, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
I honestly couldn't care less how Antrim do and 90% of my club mates are the same. When I look at my mates from Lurgan and other counties they are all proud of their county and really want to represent them at underage. We all hated bein made to go country training! We even hve a couple of players who played for Armagh minors last year (would Tyrone or another county let that happen?). I know this is the total wrong attitude to have, but I have never felt part of the county, we just happen to play our games in it. Antrim needs to change and reach out to all clubs and get some pride back at club level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on April 19, 2014, 09:34:09 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 19, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
I honestly couldn't care less how Antrim do and 90% of my club mates are the same. When I look at my mates from Lurgan and other counties they are all proud of their county and really want to represent them at underage. We all hated bein made to go country training! We even hve a couple of players who played for Armagh minors last year (would Tyrone or another county let that happen?). I know this is the total wrong attitude to have, but I have never felt part of the county, we just happen to play our games in it. Antrim needs to change and reach out to all clubs and get some pride back at club level.

That attitude is what's wrong with the county,but bet you went to the Ulster final when Antrim were in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 19, 2014, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: glens abu on April 19, 2014, 09:34:09 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 19, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
I honestly couldn't care less how Antrim do and 90% of my club mates are the same. When I look at my mates from Lurgan and other counties they are all proud of their county and really want to represent them at underage. We all hated bein made to go country training! We even hve a couple of players who played for Armagh minors last year (would Tyrone or another county let that happen?). I know this is the total wrong attitude to have, but I have never felt part of the county, we just happen to play our games in it. Antrim needs to change and reach out to all clubs and get some pride back at club level.

That attitude is what's wrong with the county,but bet you went to the Ulster final when Antrim were in it.

I didn't go but I wanted Antrim to win because they were the underdog. Id go to watch Armagh more than anything. I agree it is completely the wrong attitude but I've never felt part of the county and i know a lot of my mates feel the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 05:18:31 PM

Certainly not the best. Hey, it only remains as long as we let it. It is as simple as this:
Clubs, apathy, staus quo. Clubs, apathy, status quo.

We can all talk, we can all complain (I don't deny I have been among the biggest offenders) but our county executive are not our county executive because they are the most competent, hard working or sensible people with Gaelic games in Antrim in their best interests. Far from it, they are self serving egotists. They are our county executive because they are the only people who put themselves forward for these positions. For that, we are all to blame.

The wheels are in motion for a total coup but they are at a very early stage. The support throughout the county is needed badly. I imagine that it will be generated this year from all clubs and by the end of the year we will see brand new faces at our top table.


All of the issues brought up on this board really belong in the forum where they can be discussed, and changed. That's the County Committee. That body met at the beginning of this week, and unless you are from Naomh Brid (Belfast) or Gort Na Mona, then your club delegate didn't utter a syllable of dissent or even of query. The entire issue of the Social Club, how it has been handled and the consequences, was raised under Any Other Business. Assuming the NB rep hadn't raised it, it would literally not have been mentioned. How depressing is that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 19, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
County finances probably would not be in the same mess (as broadly hinted at by some on this site) if they had not been forced into the Courts by body of individuals who really had no rights of tenure on our property.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 08:06:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 07:26:41 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
All of the issues brought up on this board really belong in the forum where they can be discussed, and changed. That's the County Committee.
This from a man who has taken to his twitter account on a number of occasions to spout whatever he likes about the Casement debacle despite admitting that he knows nothing about it.

Brendan, if you honestly believe that all loose ends where tied on Monday in regards to Casement Social Club, you are living in a dream world. Believe me, our county executive are going to come under serious fire for their serious mismanagement of the situation

Grateful if you show me anywhere I have suggested that all loose ends are now tied up? You won't be able to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 08:09:34 PM
You seem to suggest that if it wasn't mentioned on Monday by any club delegate then it will never be. Bear in mind that the membership of CSC were not officially briefed on last weekend's goings on until Tuesday. Believe me, it will come.
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Sorry fella - you misunderstood my post entirely. It was a further commentary, and illustration, on top of yours and Bannside's re the to date apathy of our clubs and delegates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 08:26:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 19, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
County finances probably would not be in the same mess (as broadly hinted at by some on this site) if they had not been forced into the Courts by body of individuals who really had no rights of tenure on our property.
A totally baffling logic.

Our county executive undertook an illegal act when they closed Casement Social Club. That is why they were taken to court.....and lost.

By the same logic, the bar staff shouldn't have taken them to an industrial tribunal to obtain their redundancy payments because it would cost our county money.

The blame lies at our county's door, from start to finish.

It is similar to some of the guff that Brendan and other hangers on have been saying on other social media outlets. Apparently, if you do not accept our county executive's behaviour then you are not as much of a Gael as those who do accept it, no matter what you have done in your life for Antrim GAA.

Indeed, it seems that if you don't support the Casement Park redevelopment proposal for any reason- you are automatically not a Gael either.
::)

Heil Heil.

That's ill informed and fairly ignorant to be honest, at least when it comes to my position
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 08:29:58 PM
Which bit?

It is similar to some of the guff that Brendan and other hangers on have been saying on other social media outlets. Apparently, if you do not accept our county executive's behaviour then you are not as much of a Gael as those who do accept it, no matter what you have done in your life for Antrim GAA.

I know our Executive has made mistakes on this issue, and I don't 'accept' all their behaviour. I think too that nobody is without fault, and yep, I make no apology for resenting the fact that a group of people, some more interested in a boozer than Antrim GAA , could potentially hold up the development - and take great delight in bringing every twist and turn of the saga onto the media.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 19, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 08:50:05 PM
So, when you tweeted this:

@brendanbelfast: If the social club members at Casement are such dedicated Gaels why are they taking legal action which jeopardises the new stadium project?

You weren't calling into question the dedication and Gaelicism of people because they were opposing the unlawful actions of our county executive?
You weren't calling into question the dedication and Gaelicism of people who may be opposed to/jeopordising the development proposal?

I think my post above was fairly accurate. No?

No, actually I wasn't. I was doing what I said in my tweet, kinda simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on April 19, 2014, 09:51:04 PM
Hard station, it's not too often I agree with you and not because you're a Rossa Man!  But you are spot on, viva la revolution.  ;) Time for change, I hope the clubs can put forward strong, credible candidates for the main positions. 

I assume the Secretary's job will be unchallenged as its a paid position?

I'm not advocating that a man loses his job, but surely there must be targets and performance measurements to be met? Everything else is heading down the corporate road, surly those in full time paid employment within the GAA must deliver?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mrs mills on April 20, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 20, 2014, 09:42:14 AM
Work away and let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mrs mills on April 20, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
Capitalist or closet socialist then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mrs mills on April 20, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
Oh dear, I have just read your reference to wanting Malachy or Brian to take the reins at Antrim when they were available. Neither of these men would have touched the Antrim job, even when unemployed. Can you think of at least five reasons why? If you can, you are in touch with reality. If you cannot......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 20, 2014, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 19, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
County finances probably would not be in the same mess (as broadly hinted at by some on this site) if they had not been forced into the Courts by body of individuals who really had no rights of tenure on our property.
A totally baffling logic.

Our county executive undertook an illegal act when they closed Casement Social Club. That is why they were taken to court.....and lost.

By the same logic, the bar staff shouldn't have taken them to an industrial tribunal to obtain their redundancy payments because it would cost our county money.

The blame lies at our county's door, from start to finish.

It is similar to some of the guff that Brendan and other hangers on have been saying on other social media outlets. Apparently, if you do not accept our county executive's behaviour then you are not as much of a Gael as those who do accept it, no matter what you have done in your life for Antrim GAA.

Indeed, it seems that if you don't support the Casement Park redevelopment proposal for any reason- you are automatically not a Gael either.
::)
Aye right Hardstation and u will tell us all that the 'protest' which involves those members of the C S Club has nothing at all to do with greed, seizing an opportunity and the 'greasing of palms to go away'.
Take it on board Hardstation that most Gaels in our county have never visited the said C S Club and are not at all bothered about you 'dirty protest'.
Heil Heil.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 22, 2014, 02:26:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2014, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2014, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 19, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
County finances probably would not be in the same mess (as broadly hinted at by some on this site) if they had not been forced into the Courts by body of individuals who really had no rights of tenure on our property.
A totally baffling logic.

Our county executive undertook an illegal act when they closed Casement Social Club. That is why they were taken to court.....and lost.

By the same logic, the bar staff shouldn't have taken them to an industrial tribunal to obtain their redundancy payments because it would cost our county money.

The blame lies at our county's door, from start to finish.

It is similar to some of the guff that Brendan and other hangers on have been saying on other social media outlets. Apparently, if you do not accept our county executive's behaviour then you are not as much of a Gael as those who do accept it, no matter what you have done in your life for Antrim GAA.

Indeed, it seems that if you don't support the Casement Park redevelopment proposal for any reason- you are automatically not a Gael either.
::)
Aye right Hardstation and u will tell us all that the 'protest' which involves those members of the C S Club has nothing at all to do with greed, seizing an opportunity and the 'greasing of palms to go away'.
Take it on board Hardstation that most Gaels in our county have never visited the said C S Club and are not at all bothered about you 'dirty protest'.
Heil Heil.

Bumpkin, u are a bumpkin, u sh1t stir at every opportunity but never reveal ur hand, are you just a twat with too much time on your hands or do you actually have a proper reason and agenda to pursue. You always have the negative and antagonistic posts to give but no solutions or ideas to add
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 22, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
My agenda....................well such would be to raise the status of my county and certainly this does not involve giving support to those who have dragged us to the British courts seeking pursuit of their own selfish aim...............which certainly is not in our interests and does not have the support of most Gaels within Antrim.
And as for stirring....................well I could certainly take lessons from you good self.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on April 22, 2014, 10:54:07 AM
Dragged us to the British Courts.... Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 22, 2014, 06:51:18 PM
Looking for logic Hardstation.................well.................Those bad boys in the County Board carry a full mandate for their actions in control of our affairs, and your club (if indeed you are a member of C L Gael) are included in such action.
Therefore (more logic) any action against and the cost of will be borne by the Gaels of Antrim (including your club)

Of all of those members of C L Gael in Antrim look on at the goings on in the Casement Social Club issue because they OWN the premises although most never have put a foot inside the bar (is that logical?)

Do you forget the reason for the establishment of the 'Casement Social Club' county officers duplicated the same positions in this ie Co Chairman, secretary and treasurer were cast in the same positions on the CSC.
When and why did the format of the CSC change and assume an identity of their own?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 25, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
Well Hardstation it is more than obvious that you are not a member of CLG and in matters involving such I wonder why you insist in making comment on matters which pertain to the Association.
Hope this is coherent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2014, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 25, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 25, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
Well Hardstation it is more than obvious that you are not a member of CLG and in matters involving such I wonder why you insist in making comment on matters which pertain to the Association.
Hope this is coherent.
I most certainly am a member of CLG.

On another note. A message was posted on our County Guestbook about CSC running a bus to Ballycastle on Sunday. The message appeared on the guestbook last night. It has been removed this morning.

Nothing like encouraging support for our County teams. ::)


Agree regarding the support for county teams. Instead of playing a full round of Football fixtures on Sunday why not play them tonight or tomorrow evening?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2014, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 25, 2014, 02:41:30 PM
I don't understand that at all but there must be a reason why they can't.

Must be a damn good reason. I can think of at least 5 weekends where my club is free from both Football & Hurling fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2014, 04:41:17 PM
A bit of due diligence would have these things sorted. But they're not sorted

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 25, 2014, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 25, 2014, 04:41:17 PM
A bit of due diligence would have these things sorted. But they're not sorted

Same last year for Antrim v Monaghan championship game with a full fixture list of hurling matches that day, sure we'd have nothing ti whine about if it wasn't for the county and administrators. SIE has went off on one next door too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on April 28, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
I know what you are saying about county managers but is there a rule that states that a county manager can only have call on players, not sure of the exact time frame,10 days before a championship match. Can this not be enforced ?. What is worse case here (1) That no football be played until the county manager agrees and calls of matches at short notice,(2)That club football continues on and the county manager plays challenge matches on a Saturday and send his players back to their clubs on a Sunday injured and are not able to play or (3) the clubs play their league games and don't have any access to their county players until it suits the county manager.
My biggest gripe with all of this is that club players are the losers no matter what-they arrange family commitments , work/college commitments around fixture only to get a phone call or text a couple of days before a fixture to say it has been brought forward of put back - its as if nobody else except people in the county setup are allowed to make arrangements. A lot of it smacks from desperation from county managers. I hate making comparisons but in rugby and soccer the players plays with their club/province and join a training camp 10  days before the actual fixture. I know its not the same but could something along these lines not be tried.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2014, 11:29:53 PM
What's this about Davitt's not fulfilling their fixture yesterday because they were celebrating Cliftonville's title win? Any truth?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 25, 2014, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 25, 2014, 04:41:17 PM
A bit of due diligence would have these things sorted. But they're not sorted

Same last year for Antrim v Monaghan championship game with a full fixture list of hurling matches that day, sure we'd have nothing ti whine about if it wasn't for the county and administrators. SIE has went off on one next door too.
is that what I did?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 07, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
MR - whats the story with St Galls at underage level. I see your minors lost by over 20 points to Randalstown, and you are bottom of the second division behind Setanta and Davitts. Is this just a bad year group or whats the story. Surely with the pedigree and tradition of St Galls you can do better than this. Do you still expect to be a top two or three football club in five years?

Have to say it dosent look good for the Galls from the outside.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on May 07, 2014, 03:17:19 PM
Bakers push for promotion with Claudy has had a set back early in the season with one win from three games, lying 12th out of 15 teams in the intermediate league. Perhaps it is the championship that he has his sights on with Antrim and Claudy. You have to hand to him, he has a fantastic appetite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
MR - whats the story with St Galls at underage level. I see your minors lost by over 20 points to Randalstown, and you are bottom of the second division behind Setanta and Davitts. Is this just a bad year group or whats the story. Surely with the pedigree and tradition of St Galls you can do better than this. Do you still expect to be a top two or three football club in five years?

Have to say it dosent look good for the Galls from the outside.

We haven't won minor in years, same as under 21, can't get the 'special' team together that all clubs get every so often, but we've managed to add a couple of players to the senior team every so often, it's not the best run of years at under age level I agree but we were unlucky at under 12 last year (we've a cracking dual team coming through) so hopefully that will lead on, few of the past/present players have kids on these teams (Burnsy/stewart) so I'm hopeful that we will continue.

We still have a big Saturday morning drive going on at the pitches. I think we may only win the odd Championship now as these lads are, not past old men but nearing an age where the drive for so many trophies in a row will eventually lead to retirements, It's been a great journey in fairness, will still take a decent team to beat us if we hit form again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 07, 2014, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: shawshank on May 07, 2014, 03:17:19 PM
Bakers push for promotion with Claudy has had a set back early in the season with one win from three games, lying 12th out of 15 teams in the intermediate league. Perhaps it is the championship that he has his sights on with Antrim and Claudy. You have to hand to him, he has a fantastic appetite.

For what exactly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 07, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
For the game stupid  ::)   :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on May 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
MR - whats the story with St Galls at underage level. I see your minors lost by over 20 points to Randalstown, and you are bottom of the second division behind Setanta and Davitts. Is this just a bad year group or whats the story. Surely with the pedigree and tradition of St Galls you can do better than this. Do you still expect to be a top two or three football club in five years?

Have to say it dosent look good for the Galls from the outside.

You have to laugh at these people from clubs like Portglenone asking a super club like St Galls whats gone wrong. A club who have never won anything.
It would be the same as Greenlough asking what has gone wrong with Bellaghy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on May 08, 2014, 12:08:20 AM
Galls juvenile problems are of their own making and it will start to haunt them in the near future. Management over the years paid little or no attention to incremental development of kids. Mentality developed that as long as the senior footballers were on top, all was well. Any fool knows that the best time to plan for the future is when you are ahead. Club threw that away.
They may never again produce a group of players as multi talented as the current senior footballers but they failed in their responsibility to maximise the development  of the youth talent at their disposal.
Some of the management failings include the absence of a coach development programme, failure to have parents as key stakeholders in developing the talents of kids, no proper networking with feeder primary schools, no strategic  development of an out of date juvenile section of the Club, no systematic mechanism to appoint juvenile coaches, no coach accountability procedures. I could go on but these are examples of things that should have been addressed at least five years ago

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 08, 2014, 07:35:09 AM
Please tell me the club that's able to deliver all that?

I presume your club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2014, 08:44:28 AM
Quote from: curious on May 08, 2014, 12:08:20 AM
Galls juvenile problems are of their own making and it will start to haunt them in the near future. Management over the years paid little or no attention to incremental development of kids. Mentality developed that as long as the senior footballers were on top, all was well. Any fool knows that the best time to plan for the future is when you are ahead. Club threw that away.
They may never again produce a group of players as multi talented as the current senior footballers but they failed in their responsibility to maximise the development  of the youth talent at their disposal.
Some of the management failings include the absence of a coach development programme, failure to have parents as key stakeholders in developing the talents of kids, no proper networking with feeder primary schools, no strategic  development of an out of date juvenile section of the Club, no systematic mechanism to appoint juvenile coaches, no coach accountability procedures. I could go on but these are examples of things that should have been addressed at least five years ago

We didn't have that when these lads came through to win senior All Ireland either. We had a dedicated group of parents that where at St Pats every weekend looking after coaching of kids, there was no courses that these parents/mentors took either, during that period also we didn't have a pitch for a few years, as it was getting redeveloped. We are an amateur club with no money, what you are looking for is impossible as no one out there is willing to do things for nothing nor do they have the time to do it, grand ideas are one thing, putting them in place is another.

Same faces putting in the same effort every year. Kids come and go, college, women, drink, and ultimately interest goes, if they were the top dog at juvenile and come senior they are not getting a look in they sometimes throw the toys out of the pram and leave. Happens in every club in Antrim and most other counties. Dublin's top teams have what you talk about, we are decades away from doing that, for every great idea you have mentioned it requires money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 08, 2014, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2014, 08:44:28 AM
Quote from: curious on May 08, 2014, 12:08:20 AM
Galls juvenile problems are of their own making and it will start to haunt them in the near future. Management over the years paid little or no attention to incremental development of kids. Mentality developed that as long as the senior footballers were on top, all was well. Any fool knows that the best time to plan for the future is when you are ahead. Club threw that away.
They may never again produce a group of players as multi talented as the current senior footballers but they failed in their responsibility to maximise the development  of the youth talent at their disposal.
Some of the management failings include the absence of a coach development programme, failure to have parents as key stakeholders in developing the talents of kids, no proper networking with feeder primary schools, no strategic  development of an out of date juvenile section of the Club, no systematic mechanism to appoint juvenile coaches, no coach accountability procedures. I could go on but these are examples of things that should have been addressed at least five years ago

We didn't have that when these lads came through to win senior All Ireland either. We had a dedicated group of parents that where at St Pats every weekend looking after coaching of kids, there was no courses that these parents/mentors took either, during that period also we didn't have a pitch for a few years, as it was getting redeveloped. We are an amateur club with no money, what you are looking for is impossible as no one out there is willing to do things for nothing nor do they have the time to do it, grand ideas are one thing, putting them in place is another.

Same faces putting in the same effort every year. Kids come and go, college, women, drink, and ultimately interest goes, if they were the top dog at juvenile and come senior they are not getting a look in they sometimes throw the toys out of the pram and leave. Happens in every club in Antrim and most other counties. Dublin's top teams have what you talk about, we are decades away from doing that, for every great idea you have mentioned it requires money.

If the GAA was to invest a similar amount (in proportion to population) would Belfast have the infrastructure to become another Dublin?

During my visits to St Pauls these past few winters I came away thinking the Casement Park/White Elephant money would be better served providing better facilities across Belfast.  More joined up facilities with proper changing rooms, pitches and all weather surfaces is perhaps the way forward!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on May 08, 2014, 09:21:27 AM
The Casement park money has always been ring fenced for the development of a stadium, nothing more, nothing less. I cannot be directed down any other avenue so that point is not relevant.

The Dublin/Belfast comparison is also bullshit. The size of clubs in Dublin in terms of membership, teams and catchment area dwarf any club in Belfast and with it the resources to part fund coaches and provide the facilities that they do is outside the reach of almost all Belfast clubs.

As for Curious, I'd like to know what club you're involved with which has all that in place. Like most clubs we're lucky to get a few lads to take a team especially juvenile teams and if one of them has a grounding in the sport then that's a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 08, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Cool down there JC, I was only hoping to start a debate. Could sharing facilities of a better standard not be a way forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 08, 2014, 09:10:29 PM
Galls man yourself Curious? A bit scathing. Axe to grind?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on May 08, 2014, 09:30:27 PM
just pointing out what happens when the necessary work is not done. Progression and development is about attitude and application and does not always depend on finance though I accept that some things do need money. Anybody who argues that an absence of money explains lack of development is in denial. H
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on May 08, 2014, 09:55:43 PM
Money is not always an ingredient for development and anybody who argues that is kidding themselves. Application and imagination are vital and all the money in the world is useless if those kinds of attributes are missing. If a  Club has not had much success at juvenile level for a good few years, officers need to be investigating that, identifying what is wrong and taking steps to change things for the better. Of course kids move on but my question is what steps or action does a Club need to take to try to combat that. If you meekly accept the status quo, then nothing changes. On the money side, you need to be looking at membership revenue levels, grant and funding opportunities, sustainable money generating activities, widening out the financial base etc, especially at a time of rising costs. Getting quality coaches who know what they are doing rather than settling for well intentioned but ineffective people is hardly rocket science. Setting achievement targets that a Club can work to is the kind of roadmap that is needed - that takes an ability to critically review where things are at and set out a plan to deliver. It' all fairly basic stuff but if it's not done, then a Club does not progress and what usually happens then is that all the old excuses of money, not enough people, amateur status etc are trotted out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 08, 2014, 11:07:54 PM
Mr Curious

There is nothing anyone would disagree with what you've written but I'd just like to know when you arrived here from utopia?

90+% of clubs just don't have the manpower to deliver such a structure. Can help but hear you blaming the very men who are just about able to keep things tipping along.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on May 08, 2014, 11:39:17 PM

then they are obviously the wrong men. Do an internet search for GAA Clubs with development plans and you will see that it can be done but it needs the right people to deliver. I have heard all the usual stuff,  we are volunteers, we don't have the skills, this is the way it has always been, a business type model doesn't work in a Club, sorry but that sort of stuff doesn't impress me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 09, 2014, 08:46:57 AM
Quote from: curious on May 08, 2014, 11:39:17 PM

then they are obviously the wrong men. Do an internet search for GAA Clubs with development plans and you will see that it can be done but it needs the right people to deliver. I have heard all the usual stuff,  we are volunteers, we don't have the skills, this is the way it has always been, a business type model doesn't work in a Club, sorry but that sort of stuff doesn't impress me

OK lets take that argument. If that is the case, what are the "right men" doing? I'll tell you, they are setting on their arses leaving it to the wrong men to do their best (making them NOT the right men). Those very same "wrong men" would more than likely be able to do a much better job if a few more people got involved. These very seem people are these right people you talk about but regardless leave it to the "wrong men" to do their best but ultimately underachieve due to lack of proper support.
Lots of clubs have Club Development plans with a detailed structure of how things "should" be done. To deliver on those plans you have to find committed individuals prepared to step into each of the roles (one man one job) and do them to the best of their ability. Most clubs need the interested few to double/treble job which means the quality of the work being done isn't what it should be. Hardly the fault of the "wrong men" Id say.

Lets hear what club you're from, so we can understand why it all appears so easy and straight forward from you're perspective
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 09, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
Harsh to call people who give of their time to help as the "wrong men", i would agree that you need strong lead coaches within youth structures with relevant know how to help achieve success but to call volunteers "wrong men" is unfair.

Successful underage structures and results can vary greatly as well, success should not be measured against trophies and medals won but improvement on a year to year basis within both players and teams, realistically a small rural or city club with strong numbers are not going to compete for major honours however if they can year by year close the gap between themselves an the so called bigger clubs the success has been achieved. In turn if you are consistently providing players from underage teams that do or will backbone your senior team even without winning at underage level that is success as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on May 09, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
fact remains that if a Club is not developing, then the people in charge are the wrong ones. Recognise the argument about others who could bring serious skills to things but don't get involved. Need to offset that against fact that some good people are kept blocked out so nothing changes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 09, 2014, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: curious on May 09, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
fact remains that if a Club is not developing, then the people in charge are the wrong ones. Recognise the argument about others who could bring serious skills to things but don't get involved. Need to offset that against fact that some good people are kept blocked out so nothing changes

Like who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 11, 2014, 11:52:13 AM
Anybody know why there is a list of hurling fixtures arranged on a day in which we are involved in a hurling championship game and no football fixtures to be seen?  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 12:01:29 PM
Most of the games kick off at night. So no clash. Everyone can get to game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 11, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
Was sent to watch a game this afternoon. Of course, nobody bothers to tell you of the time change.

Ah, happy memories of my refereeing days! Nothing ever changes in this county!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on May 11, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
Was sent to watch a game this afternoon. Of course, nobody bothers to tell you of the time change.

Ah, happy memories of my refereeing days! Nothing ever changes in this county!

Antrim website ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 11, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
Sure nobody on this site reads that one!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 12, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Predictions for team line up v Fermanagh?

I'll go with

1. Ronan Hanna
2. Kevin O'Boyle
3. Ricky Johnston
4. Niall Delargy
5. Justin Croizer
6. Martin Johnston
7. James Laverty
8. Sean McVeigh
9. Michael McCann
10. Conor Murray
11. Kevin Niblock
12. Mark Sweeney
13. Paddy Cunningham
14. Niall McKeever
15. Tomas McCann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Nga on May 12, 2014, 05:21:09 PM
Mr Curious, is your name Barry by any chance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 13, 2014, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on May 12, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Predictions for team line up v Fermanagh?

I'll go with

1. Ronan Hanna
2. Kevin O'Boyle
3. Ricky Johnston
4. Niall Delargy
5. Justin Croizer
6. Martin Johnston
7. James Laverty
8. Sean McVeigh
9. Michael McCann
10. Conor Murray
11. Kevin Niblock
12. Mark Sweeney
13. Paddy Cunningham
14. Niall McKeever
15. Tomas McCann

Niblock still part of squad? Injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
Are ye optimistic/pessimistic about the Fermanagh game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 14, 2014, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
Are ye optimistic/pessimistic about the Fermanagh game?

If you look at the respective league campaigns, alleged rows behind the scenes and factor in that Fermanagh are at home, all in all, I'll stick my neck out and say we'll be hammered.  Fermanagh by 7 or 8, which is bad news for me as I live in Fermanagh. :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 14, 2014, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
Are ye optimistic/pessimistic about the Fermanagh game?

Optimistically pessimistic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on May 14, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
Optimistic, absolutely. The squad has had a couple of wins in challenges recently, against teams who play c'ship before we do, and should be further down the preparation route. Clearly a more settled squad as well with very few, if any, injury worries. I think we can get our first Ulster championship win since '09 on 1st June.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 15, 2014, 07:34:21 PM
I'll rephrase that for ye:

Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
Are ye pessimistic / very pessimistic about the Fermanagh game?

Don't ye know we rarely do optimism??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 27, 2014, 08:43:27 PM
Gonna buck the trend and suggest that a win for Antrim is on the cards on Sunday.......................unless all you experts and potential county managers know different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on May 27, 2014, 08:50:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 27, 2014, 08:43:27 PM
Gonna buck the trend and suggest that a win for Antrim is on the cards on Sunday.......................unless all you experts and potential county managers know different.

Heard they were flying in challenge games,so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 08:54:45 PM
I predict a two point win...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 27, 2014, 09:14:05 PM
More than a decent chance against Fermanagh, who I don't think are up to much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 28, 2014, 08:33:57 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 27, 2014, 09:14:05 PM
More than a decent chance against Fermanagh, who I don't think are up to much.

Couldn't argue with that Saffrongael, but neither are we!  Would love to go to the hurling but since I live less than 10 miles from Brewster Pk it looks like the football for me.  I honestly think we've a better chance of beating Wexford.  But hope springs eternal!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2014, 10:00:22 AM
Team named...

1. Patrick Flood Naomh Eanna
2. Kevin O'Boyle Clan na hEireann
3. Ricky Johnston Creggan Kickhams
4. Niall Delargy Roger Casements
5. Martin Johnston Creggan Kickhams
6. Justin Crozier Clan na hEireann
7. James Lavery Clan na hEireann
8. Michael McCann Clan na hEireann
9. Niall McKeever Roger Casements
10. Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
11. Mark Sweeney St Jude's Dublin
12. Paul McCann Clan na hEireann
13. Brian Neeson Naomh Eoin
14. Kevin Niblock Naomh Gall
15. Tomas McCann Clan na hEireann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
A strong line up ;) and  positively good enough to beat Fermanagh..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 03:33:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 29, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
A strong line up ;) and  positively good enough to beat Fermanagh..........

Too many from one team ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
Sure u may well be right there M R2 but some of the best club players in the county decided they were not lending their services to the Saffron cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on May 30, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 29, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
Sure u may well be right there M R2 but some of the best club players in the county decided they were not lending their services to the Saffron cause.


And 'some of the best club players in the county' had the decision made for them!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on May 30, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 30, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 29, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
Sure u may well be right there M R2 but some of the best club players in the county decided they were not lending their services to the Saffron cause.


And 'some of the best club players in the county' had the decision made for them!!!

some of the best players in the county are unmanageable, has been proved time and time again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2014, 12:39:18 PM
Some were pushed (the question is why?) and some decided to walk of their own accord. The county is team is bigger than any individual, and its well known that some egos were that big they couldn't fit in the dressing room door.

By all accounts the squad is a happier more settled bunch, and they have put in a good shift in recent weeks to get ready for Sunday.

A win and a lot of what happened earlier in the year will be glossed over. 70 mins to stand up and be counted and come out of Enniskillen with a bit of pride back at least.

Good luck to all involved, and to minors as well. Go on lads....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 12:52:53 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on May 30, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 30, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 29, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
Sure u may well be right there M R2 but some of the best club players in the county decided they were not lending their services to the Saffron cause.


And 'some of the best club players in the county' had the decision made for them!!!

some of the best players in the county are unmanageable, has been proved time and time again.

And that defo helps your club in the championship, as they get better training, higher profile games and they can bring that to championship.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 30, 2014, 01:08:30 PM
Has to be cargins this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 30, 2014, 01:08:30 PM
Has to be cargins this year

Law of averages??   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 30, 2014, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 30, 2014, 01:08:30 PM
Has to be cargins this year
[/Mquote]
You may well be right there or you may well be mistaken. But in any event you can be assured they will be back again in 2015 chasing the dream again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 30, 2014, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 30, 2014, 01:08:30 PM
Has to be cargins this year
[/Mquote]
You may well be right there or you may well be mistaken. But in any event you can be assured they will be back again in 2015 chasing the dream again.

Pipe dream :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 31, 2014, 11:01:10 AM
Chasing the dream MR2, not the 'dragon' not a poppy to be seen in Toome these days........ :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2014, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 31, 2014, 11:01:10 AM
Chasing the dream MR2, not the 'dragon' not a poppy to be seen in Toome these days........ :o

Plenty Celtic tops though ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 31, 2014, 09:51:23 PM
I heard that the new goalkeeper is a soccer goalkeeper for balllyclare. And plays outfield for st endas .   I would have thought. Sean O Neill would be more obvious choice , never mind ronan Hanna being snubbed !!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 01, 2014, 07:38:46 PM
Well I wonder just what the 'Baker Bashers', and there are certainly more than a few who would express their considered opinions on this site, say now..........................??? ??? ??? ??? :-\

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 01, 2014, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 01, 2014, 07:38:46 PM
Well I wonder just what the 'Baker Bashers', and there are certainly more than a few who would express their considered opinions on this site, say now..........................??? ??? ??? ??? :-\

Yep he deserves credit after today, shows what's possible when you get rid of the egos and have fellas working hard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2014, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 01, 2014, 07:47:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 01, 2014, 07:38:46 PM
Well I wonder just what the 'Baker Bashers', and there are certainly more than a few who would express their considered opinions on this site, say now..........................??? ??? ??? ??? :-\

Yep he deserves credit after today, shows what's possible when you get rid of the egos and have fellas working hard.

They well be out in there droves against Donegal. ;)

Listen to match and what a great start and baring 3/4 minutes in the games Antrim seemed to be on a different planet to Fermanagh. Get rid of those 3/4 mins we had at either half today and Antrim could give Donegal all they want.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 01, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Holy Mother of God where did that come from???  Well I got that stone wrong.  I'm struggling to remember a better all round display from an Antrim team.  Fermanagh were totally flattered by the score line.  We should have won that by 15 points. For 55 mins we gave then a football lesson. Problem is in the the other 15 mins we conceded about 3-7.  Hard to single out a MoM everyone did well but Niblock and Neeson were outrageously good.

Some pretty ungracious and childish stuff from McGrath at the end shouting to celebrating Antrim fans "d'ye want to see my All Ireland medals."

Congrats to Baker and all the squad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on June 01, 2014, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 01, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Holy Mother of God where did that come from???  Well I got that stone wrong.  I'm struggling to remember a better all round display from an Antrim team.  Fermanagh were totally flattered by the score line.  We should have won that by 15 points. For 55 mins we gave then a football lesson. Problem is in the the other 15 mins we conceded about 3-7.  Hard to single out a MoM everyone did well but Niblock and Neeson were outrageously good.

Some pretty ungracious and childish stuff from McGrath at the end shouting to celebrating Antrim fans "d'ye want to see my All Ireland

In fairness, there were a few drunken tools doing some slabbering
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 01, 2014, 08:39:39 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on June 01, 2014, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 01, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Holy Mother of God where did that come from???  Well I got that stone wrong.  I'm struggling to remember a better all round display from an Antrim team.  Fermanagh were totally flattered by the score line.  We should have won that by 15 points. For 55 mins we gave then a football lesson. Problem is in the the other 15 mins we conceded about 3-7.  Hard to single out a MoM everyone did well but Niblock and Neeson were outrageously good.

Some pretty ungracious and childish stuff from McGrath at the end shouting to celebrating Antrim fans "d'ye want to see my All Ireland

In fairness, there were a few drunken tools doing some slabbering

That's not the way I saw it but whatever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 01, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Holy Mother of God where did that come from???  Well I got that stone wrong.  I'm struggling to remember a better all round display from an Antrim team.  Fermanagh were totally flattered by the score line.  We should have won that by 15 points. For 55 mins we gave then a football lesson. Problem is in the the other 15 mins we conceded about 3-7.  Hard to single out a MoM everyone did well but Niblock and Neeson were outrageously good.

Some pretty ungracious and childish stuff from McGrath at the end shouting to celebrating Antrim fans "d'ye want to see my All Ireland medals."

Congrats to Baker and all the squad

Pete McGrath? was he part of the great Down teams of the 60's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2014, 09:04:53 PM
Not long home and still over the moon with not one, but two great results.

Antrim haven't played football like this for a long time. Fermanagh were not a bad team, but at times when we got going we looked in a different class.

Fair play to everyone, management and players of both minors and seniors. Today you restored our pride and in football that's what matters most.

A few unreal individual performances, with Kevin Niblock confirming on the big stage what we always knew, that he is one of Ulsters finest. Mick oozed class all day too.

KOBO you are now an official Antrim LEGEND.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 01, 2014, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2014, 09:04:53 PM
Not long home and still over the moon with not one, but two great results.

Antrim haven't played football like this for a long time. Fermanagh were not a bad team, but at times when we got going we looked in a different class.

Fair play to everyone, management and players of both minors and seniors. Today you restored our pride and in football that's what matters most.

A few unreal individual performances, with Kevin Niblock confirming on the big stage what we always knew, that he is one of Ulsters finest. Mick oozed class all day too.

KOBO you are now an official Antrim LEGEND.

Aye bannside, left out Kobo, I thought he was brilliant all day. Flood looked pretty cool too for a debutante.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 01, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
Lads just dropping in to say a big well done today. Really enjoyed the game. Good luck against Donegal, you'll have 31 counties behind yee hoping they are beat with their negative shite tactics
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 01, 2014, 10:34:08 PM
Even with so many scores in the match today, the sunday game showed about 3 minutes including analysis, and the 17 minutes on the black card rule ! What a f**king joke !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: matchfit21 on June 01, 2014, 11:05:13 PM
Great result for Antrim! Made especially sweeter to be done without the massive egos and social media whores that were exercised. Niblock among the best attackers in Ireland on his day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 01, 2014, 11:12:39 PM
Niblock got a few great scores from the limited coverage that was on TSG. They spent too much time on the boring black card chat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 02, 2014, 12:29:42 AM
Saffrons are back.

I cannot remember us winning both games! Great day (with typical scary ending) but delighted!

Some block at the end! Weather held up well too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 02, 2014, 12:40:19 AM
I agree Hoof but lets remember this time last year Spillane was lambasting us to a national audience for our negative tactics and Dawsons keep the defeat down low and please dont beat us by too much shambles. At least this year he is giving credit to Paddy for instigating some really expansive forward play that resulted in beating them on the scoreboard in a score fest.

And Country Bumpkin - yes tonight is a good place for those who put Baker in place and believed in him. This year was about getting out of Div 4 and beating Fermanagh, and the more important part of that criteria has been delivered. For that he deserves credit and space to see how we measure up to Donegal (one of the giants of the game at present) and no doubt the full Saffron army will be out in force.

Thats nothing less than what the full panel and management team deserve. Lets remember we went down there a few years ago with what may have looked a stronger team on paper, with lots of Gallsmen who were on top of their game at the time, and got turned over.

Credit where its due. Lets all enjoy TWO great wins today and get behind both teams for the next three weeks by which stage we will all be wiser about where we stand in the bigger picture.

When was the last time we pulled off a minor/senior double?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 02, 2014, 01:14:06 AM
Kobos legend status was delivered a long time ago when he scored the winner against Donega in 09. This just means the legend continues.
The real mystery is why he needed tony scullion to hold his hand throughout the antrim club championship last year, I think he could have handled the centre back duties on his own without a seventh defender.
Anyhoo, well done antrim & tbh id be a lot happier if so called media whores like Conor John were in the team. Well done all, it would make you wonder why baker didn't get the Derry job, but isn't that why we are all here?????!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2014, 07:41:02 AM
We beat a div3 team with seriously underachieving div4 team. Great result at one level but the manner in which the lead was squandered would be a real concern.
You'd have to wonder if people understand what perspective is. Far better to enjoy the day but maintain some sense of reality going forward to the next game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 02, 2014, 08:27:29 AM
This year was about getting out of Div 4 and beating Fermanagh, and the more important part of that criteria has been delivered?

Really? I'd prefer we got out of Div 4 than win one game in championship (realistically but hope I'm wrong ).
Long term it's better to plying your trade against better quality teams on a more regular basis so promotion would have been my aim and I do believe that was the aim of baker as well but didnt go to plan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 02, 2014, 08:57:13 AM
Great win for boths sides.happy to be a Saff this morning.Well done to the Baker boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 02, 2014, 09:36:42 AM
Manballandall, no one here will disagree that the league was a shambles and about how badly it hurt to see us at the bottom of the basement. It is/was a blow to our pride because none of us think we belong there. And of course its a priority to get out of there as quickly as possible.

But when you have a dressing room that has got all the wrong synergies, players thinking they can do what they want, players talking back to the management, and players in fighting (yes it actually came to blows) then its no surprise that we were getting results on the field that reflected that. What Baker has now got is a team without a few classy individuals, but a much more united team, with proper team spirit and who know that if you step out of line you are gassed.

Kevin Madden made a great point in todays IN. If Pollock and CJ had been on that team yesterday its most likely Bam Neeson wouldn't have started. And yesterday Bam was outstanding.

But for me personally the highlight was the performance of Kevin Niblock who must have won a railway cup start based on his performance. When lots of St Galls players turned their back on the cause this year, one after one, it was Niblock who stood up and made his own statement. The best Gallsman of the lot.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 02, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
Well said Bannside...................Madden got it right in the I News, but have a gander at Paddy Heaney's match report which was quite obviously compiled by someone who had predicted, and hoped for a Fermanagh win.
The obviously biased review penned by an individual who only ever delivers condescending, patronizing comment on all things Saffron begins as he continues in an opening paragraph which proclaims, "Only Antrim could have lost this game and they very nearly did".
Heaney got it wrong in his preview of the game and he looked to stick the knife in again in his last comment to-day, "Their (Antrim's) reward, if it can be called that, is a semi final clash with Donegal.
Jeez did Donegal beat Derry last week Paddy? Sure u said they wouldn't............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2014, 11:10:41 AM
Don't think anyone should be overly confident with the side on the fence they're on. We were only a kick off a ball away from Heaney being right and Madden being wrong.

The fact that Antrim we're so dominant and yet came so close to losing tells a tale. The top teams know they can play poorly and still grind out results. Antrim will need to show more resilience before their fortunes over the medium term improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
I'm all for a unified dressing room, it's the only way to have a proper team ethos. Well done to Baker and Paddy, if we know anything of Baker is that he manages to get something in Championship. Now can we still play the same way against Donegal? Will tactics change for this game? At least it will be a neutral venue, Clones I'd imagine.

Wasn't at the game so looking at the time we stopped playing and allowed Fermanagh to score what they did at the end of each half is there anything we could do to stop that happening again? Did we stop pressing them or did they just improve? Would Donegal allow us the same space?

I'm with Skull to a point, this was a poor enough Fermanagh team that we should beat most years, but Championship isn't too kind to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 02, 2014, 11:26:32 AM
I re-read Paddy Heaneys review again, and better still, had a good look over his Saturday pre match column too, and to be very honest I am trying really hard to see parts I can take exception to. He talks about our "ability to implode" when hitting the front, and mentioned us throwing away a six point lead against Carlow etc. His exact words were "brittle to the touch". He cant be faulted on that. Yesterday we were 11 clear and still just managed to hold on - and not too many of us would have fancied another couple of minutes!!

Personally I like Heaneys reporting. He has a real insight into whats going on behind the scenes, and has his finger on the pulse.

In todays paper he talked about our "fragile confidence" and lets be honest, from being 11 clear we were holding on for grim death at the finish. Paddy got that one 100% right Im afraid. He called how luckily we got away with a Fermanagh disallowed goal in the 8th minute after Paddy Flood was impeded. But I have spoken to a few people who think we got out of jail and many referees might have allowed that goal to stand. Thats proper journalism, and if the shoe had been on the other foot we would have been squealing our heads off about it.

He finishes with "considering the quality of Antrims forward play it would have been brutally unfair if we had lost this match. Their victory was deserved" - so all in all theres not anything he has said on this occasion that taking a balanced view, we could really take exception to.

Finally, it has to be said that if he is not Antrims biggest fan, it is probably because he is frustrated at the way Antrim continues to underperform in relation to our potential. He is not stupid. He knows that Antrim football could and should be in a better place ambitionally and structurally, and that a county of our size should be in the top tier long before now.

What he sees is year after year of underachievement, and for that we obviously dont have his respect. Thats our fault Country Bumpkin, not his.

We need to enjoy a year that our minors, under 21`s and seniors all didnt lose their first championship day out, and thats colossal for us. In turn Paddy, Derry lost all three - for the third year in a row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 11:33:49 AM
You can say what you like about fermanagh being poor but we were about 3rd from bottom of every country out there so we're not exactly in the high quality bracket either unfortunately.

This is our 6th or so championship win in about 35 years. Any win should be celebrated and no one will remember that fermanagh got close in a year or two - at the end of the day they still lost the game.

With the form of the footballers in the league and the fallout in the dressing room this year as well as last year's debacle of a year expectations , from me anyway, haven't been high so more than happy to see a win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 02, 2014, 12:22:47 PM
When our seniors were getting warmed up, and were hearing that our minors  were winning comfortably, this would have send a great positive vibe throughout the seniors too. Well done to them for kick starting a memorable double. Nothing short of deserved for the way Sean, Niall, Gareth and Conor have pulled out all the stops to get this team in shape.

Donegal minors may be a bridge too far, having hammered us in the league - but last week they stuttered past Derry by a couple of points and we would be as good as Derry I would think. On the day everything is possible! Great to see captain Ruairi Scott from St Endas in full flow. Shouldnt be too long before he is in the senior colours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 02, 2014, 12:25:32 PM
Bannside not disagreeing with anything you have said in your last two posts . What I did disagree with was you saying that the most important part of promotion and beating Fermanagh had been achieved . To me promotion was the most important aim this year.
As regards the galls boys decisions , they are all men and name their own decisions . Who is anyone to judge them on this?. Not me, I'd never judge anyone on whatever decision they make, it's their choice.
However I dare say there might be an ounce of what if going on in their heads this morning but they made their decision so let it be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 02, 2014, 01:28:52 PM
Promotion and a win over Fermanagh would've been ideal. But wasn't to be due to all sorts of factors.

How did we nearly throw that away--id love to see us tank a team and keep our foot on their throats when we get ahead.

Not good for the nerves  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 02, 2014, 03:57:19 PM
"Not good for the nerves"

There's an understatement :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 02, 2014, 07:25:01 PM
Got speaking to a few saffrons yesterday and they mentioned that the best thing Bradley did was to get rid of the McGourty brothers. Why are they ever there in the first place if they only ever cause trouble?

Will Antrim trouble Donegal lads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
There was only one McGourty on any of Bakers panels so you must be talking Shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 02, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
There was only one McGourty on any of Bakers panels so you must be talking Shite

You are. 2 have played under him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on June 02, 2014, 11:33:49 PM
Team v Tyrone 2010:

Antrim: J Finucane, C Brady, A Douglas, K O'Boyle, T Scullion (0-1), J Crozier, S Kelly, B Herron, A Gallagher, T O'Neill, K Niblock (1-1), J Loughrey, P Cunningham (0-5, 4f), M McCann (0-1), T McCann (0-1, 1f).
Subs: CJ McGourty (0-4) for Kelly (18), G O'Boyle for O'Neill (40), K McGourty for Herron (40), K Brady for T McCann (52)

Unless, of course, CJ changed his name to G O'Boyle, got subbed off, and then changed his name to K McGourty and was put back on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 11:39:23 PM
Is it the two you think it is though??kieran played for a bit. It is with a k isn't it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on June 02, 2014, 11:50:11 PM
I was there. Yes. Ciaran/Kieran played in 2006. http://www.sportsfile.com/id/212198/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 11:50:35 PM
Not sure - mind him playing but don't mind manager.

Actually now i think about it i think i mind kevin coming on that match into midfield and making a good difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 06:16:33 AM
I was talking this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 03, 2014, 07:43:37 AM
Who gives a fcuk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
"Any of Baker's panels"

??

And the topic was about this year HS.CK made reference to the McGourty brothers this year, but sure walt away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2014, 09:09:24 AM
I think one year All the Mcgourts were in the starting 15 including the Da. Might be wrong though!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 03, 2014, 10:38:06 AM
Didn't mean to start a row lads.  ???

Good luck against Donegal. I'll be hoping for the saffrons that day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on June 03, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 03, 2014, 07:43:37 AM
Who gives a fcuk.

agree totally!!

lets focus on the players who are still there & who will line out against donegal on 22nd in clones!

i have never seen an antrim team play with the belief & positivity that our seniors & minors did on sunday past!

from the minor starting 15, i think there are 4 or 5 u17.

fair play to baker, he set out his stall from 1st fermanagh kickout, he was roaring at justy to push up & mark a man, which put us on the front foot.

some of our passing & movement was up there with the best in ireland.

wud cj or pollock have worked as hard as bam did?
bam made 3,4 maybe 5 runs at times to create the space to receive the ball, he never once shouted that the ball didnt come into him after the 1st run.

roll on 22nd june!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 03, 2014, 11:22:56 AM
Can anybody tell me who the minor management are an what clubs they are from?

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2014, 11:37:59 AM
Think if Tony Scullion is fit there will be seven from Cargin lining out in the Saffron against Donegal......................we have a chance! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 03, 2014, 01:19:07 PM
Antrim Minors Management Team

Sean Mc Goldrick - St Teresas (manager)
Niall Ward - St Johns
Gareth Neeseon - Ahoghill
Conor Mc Cann - St Teresas

Doing a great job it must be said.  Missing a few of their best players too who would be assets if available. Ryan Stranney and Domnall Nugent are two in particular that would stand out.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2014, 11:37:59 AM
Think if Tony Scullion is fit there will be seven from Cargin lining out in the Saffron against Donegal......................we have a chance! ;)

of fluffing your lines and choking  ;)

Cargins lads as usual playing well for Antrim. Not Tonys best fan but his experience alone would be great to have. Donegal have some big players. Kavanagh Gallagher Murphy all top drawer players. Venue picked?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 03, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 03, 2014, 01:19:07 PM
Antrim Minors Management Team

Sean Mc Goldrick - St Teresas (manager)
Niall Ward - St Johns
Gareth Neeseon - Ahoghill
Conor Mc Cann - St Teresas

Doing a great job it must be said.  Missing a few of their best players too who would be assets if available. Ryan Stranney and Domnall Nugent are two in particular that would stand out.

Cheers Bannside. Agree, fair play to them. Why are those lads missing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 03, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
As far as I know PaddyJohn both have foot injuries of some kind. Stranney scored three goals for Lamh Dearg and a few points in a Div 1 league match a few weeks ago before getting carried off. Nugent was a regular for Antrim U 21s in midfield, and played too for St Johns seniors last year at CHB at 17 years old! Two big misses at minor level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
Do Antrim supporters suffer from bipolar disorder?

We perform badly and we're the worst in the world and expectations at an all time low. We win a game against average opposition and elation and levels optimism go through the roof?

If we we're to take the long view is the reality not in the middle somewhere? Currently we're not anywhere close to being as good as alot of supporters would make us out to be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2014, 05:58:03 PM
Are u related to Victor Meldrew Skull?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
I'm not Spike  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 03, 2014, 08:54:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2014, 11:37:59 AM
Think if Tony Scullion is fit there will be seven from Cargin lining out in the Saffron against Donegal......................we have a chance! ;)

of fluffing your lines and choking  ;)

Cargins lads as usual playing well for Antrim. Not Tonys best fan but his experience alone would be great to have. Donegal have some big players. Kavanagh Gallagher Murphy all top drawer players. Venue picked?
Clones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 05, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
Had a quick flick through the records last night.  It seems 2-18 is Antrim's highest Ulster Championship score since 1950 when we beat Derry 5-10 to 0-5 at Corrigan Park (ah, them were the days).  This was obviously a time when we had our boot to the Oakleafers' throats since we beat them 5-9 to 1-6 at Magherafelt in 1949.  We also beat Down 4-10 to 0-01(!) in 1932.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 10, 2014, 12:56:51 PM
Have a pile of tickets to sell for our club draw up in the Belfast area, £10 each or £20 for 3, top prize is £3000! Where would be the best areas/streets to target in the South Belfast direction or what would my best plan of action be? The sort of areas where there is plenty of money, and willing to give to a GAA club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on June 10, 2014, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 10, 2014, 12:56:51 PM
Have a pile of tickets to sell for our club draw up in the Belfast area, £10 each or £20 for 3, top prize is £3000! Where would be the best areas/streets to target in the South Belfast direction or what would my best plan of action be? The sort of areas where there is plenty of money, and willing to give to a GAA club?

I'll be very interested to know how you get on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 10, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
Going tomorrow evening so will let you know. What you think my chances are?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 07:53:25 PM
Cold calling around doors in South Beast wearing a Gaelic top??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Good luck getting people handing over a tenner at their front door. Would you not be better to do the rounds of GAA clubs in the west on a Friday or Saturday evening? Or queens union?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Good luck getting people handing over a tenner at their front door. Would you not be better to do the rounds of GAA clubs in the west on a Friday or Saturday evening? Or queens union?

Nobody in the clubs ffs!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 09:06:13 PM
Probably not feasible but wednesday afternoon university sports day... One to queens and one to jordanstown.

Door knocking in belfast probably not going to get you that much.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 10, 2014, 09:43:28 PM
Watched the Cargin v Gall's game and Tony Scullion looks back to full fitness.............man of the match................Baker may well toss him a start jersey!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 10, 2014, 09:43:28 PM
Watched the Cargin v Gall's game and Tony Scullion looks back to full fitness.............man of the match................Baker may well toss him a start jersey!

When was this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 11, 2014, 10:48:11 AM
We have a spooferrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on June 11, 2014, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 10, 2014, 09:43:28 PM
Watched the Cargin v Gall's game and Tony Scullion looks back to full fitness.............man of the match................Baker may well toss him a start jersey!

When was this?

It was Cargin v St John's. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2014, 10:52:41 AM
My mistake MR2...............Was Cargin v St John's...........sorry :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 11, 2014, 11:43:21 AM
Easy mistake to make  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 11, 2014, 11:54:29 AM
Those belfast teams all sound the same sure ;-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2014, 12:03:47 PM
Close enough to see that Tony is back to his 'best'  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2014, 01:19:52 PM
Sure us Culchies are all a bit thick Hs.......................can't tell one Mc Cooey from another............... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2014, 01:19:52 PM
Sure us Culchies are all a bit thick Hs.......................can't tell one Mc Cooey from another............... 8)

FFS Hardstation would have got a call up had he been playing for Cargin against the Johnnies, not a hard to impress against lol

(apologies to my Johnny friends) like feck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2014, 04:16:27 PM
Think ur a tad harsh to our friend from the Rossa there MR2............ :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2014, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
Sure I'm not even a member of the association so I couldn't have played even if they wanted....

You give up your club role?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 11, 2014, 11:27:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Good luck getting people handing over a tenner at their front door. Would you not be better to do the rounds of GAA clubs in the west on a Friday or Saturday evening? Or queens union?

Nobody in the clubs ffs!!

Cleaned up in the posh bit of dunmurry, like shooting fish in a barrell! Alex attwood the stoop gave me 20 quid and asked for a tenner back in stranmillis!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 11, 2014, 11:35:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2014, 07:53:25 PM
Cold calling around doors in South Beast wearing a Gaelic top??

Surely more dangerous to be calling around doors in West Belfast with the WRONG gaelic top?!?!

How East would you go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 12, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
Heard a rumour last night that St. John's had withdrawn from football league. Surely not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 12, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 12, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
Heard a rumour last night that St. John's had withdrawn from football league. Surely not?
?? They won last night...
Something the rasharkin keeper said last night, I found it hard to believe as you'd rather pull your reserve team and play them in senior league. Obviously not then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2014, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 12, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 12, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
Heard a rumour last night that St. John's had withdrawn from football league. Surely not?
?? They won last night...
Something the rasharkin keeper said last night, I found it hard to believe as you'd rather pull your reserve team and play them in senior league. Obviously not then

Not showing their hand before championship?  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
Very quiet on here in the lead up to an Ulster semi final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 17, 2014, 03:09:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
Very quiet on here in the lead up to an Ulster semi final?

Like the Kerry support, we will save ourselves for the final, 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
'We play a wee bit like Dublin'

Of course you do Baker..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on June 17, 2014, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
'We play a wee bit like Dublin'

Of course you do Baker..

;D ;D couldn't believe that when I seen it,good win against Fermanagh but come on Baker  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2014, 01:18:07 PM
Quote from: glens abu on June 17, 2014, 10:28:36 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
'We play a wee bit like Dublin'

Of course you do Baker..

;D ;D couldn't believe that when I seen it,good win against Fermanagh but come on Baker  :-[ :-[

Yeah, was Baker taking the piss out of the journalist?  The whole piece seemed tongue in cheek.  Don't know if Baker does tongue in cheek, so I don't.

Michael Armstrong out with a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2014, 10:12:55 AM
Its eerily quiet on here - hopefully its the quiet before the storm.

I know we are going up against two very good Donegal teams. I spoke recently to a well connected Donegal insider, and he was adamant that both their minors and seniors have nothing less than playing on the third Sunday in September on their minds. Things in their senior camp are seriously back to 2012 levels. On top of this they have an expectancy level with their minors this year too that they dont usually possess, so for those reasons I would gladly settle for two big, competitive performances from us. That would be huge and would reinstate a lot of pride that has been missing in recent years.


Personally I wouldnt want to see us trying to beat them at their own game. Derry tried that and failed, and Donegal have won an all ireland perfecting this ultra defensive style. What they wont expect is us to spread it out and create space, the opposite of what they will try to do. We wont beat Donegal by doing what they do best!

I know this could backfire, but maybe the best form of defence is attack on this occasion. The longer we can hang in the bigger the doubts will be in their heads, and if its close going down the last ten minutes who knows what could happen. They have it all to lose, we are huge underdogs in both with nothing to lose.

So hopefully we will go out and attack them from the off, put them on the back foot and impose our style on them. The whole country will be rooting for us, so at least lets have a go - and if we do go down it will be with our swords up.

Good luck to both panels and management and lets all get to Clones on Sunday to support everyone involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 21, 2014, 08:01:32 AM
That's a fair analysis Bannside, I hope the two teams get the support their efforts merit, and both squads have worked a huge amount in the last few weeks. They won't be lacking in belief anyway and that's a good starting point.

It would take a lot of things to fall on place for our seniors to win tomorrow, and yet if walk out of Clones with smiles on our faces I for one wouldn't be shocked.

Safe travels everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2014, 10:51:49 AM
Sunday was one of those days which  showed us all sides of Antrim Football in the one day. Credit to both our sides for at least going toe to toe for so long, but the truth is we were punching above our weight whilst Donegal were playing well within themselves.

When the chips were down Donegal were putting in the big hits, winning all the breaking ball and marginly within the rules bursting men in the tackle. They are built to do damage and were prepared to go to those lengths. Most of our men were there to play football.

Our full back line did exceptionally well given the protection they were offered. Holding Murphy, Mc Fadden and Mc Brearty to a total of 0-2 is very worthy of special mention,

It gives me no pleasure to say how dismayed I was about the number of missed tackles and chasing back in our middle third. Its been happening all year (our scores against stats in 2014 dont lie) and for Baker and co this must be a huge concern at the minute.







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 25, 2014, 10:51:49 AM
Sunday was one of those days which  showed us all sides of Antrim Football in the one day. Credit to both our sides for at least going toe to toe for so long, but the truth is we were punching above our weight whilst Donegal were playing well within themselves.

When the chips were down Donegal were putting in the big hits, winning all the breaking ball and marginly within the rules bursting men in the tackle. They are built to do damage and were prepared to go to those lengths. Most of our men were there to play football.

Our full back line did exceptionally well given the protection they were offered. Holding Murphy, Mc Fadden and Mc Brearty to a total of 0-2 is very worthy of special mention,

It gives me no pleasure to say how dismayed I was about the number of missed tackles and chasing back in our middle third. Its been happening all year (our scores against stats in 2014 dont lie) and for Baker and co this must be a huge concern at the minute.

Just wondering if anyone had any idea of what kind of weights/ S & C programme that the seniors have been on?

I know Donegal are ahead of most teams in this respect and are on the road 3/4 years in an intense programme, but our lads all looked lighter and noticeably less powerful in the tackle.

Surely this is one aspect that all teams should be nearly equal on as the information and programmes are widely available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2014, 11:50:03 AM
Agree Nag, its a medium/longer term plan to develop that kind of power. In fairness though only a few of the big teams can claim to be at this level, and Antrim would be there or therabouts with most counties on that score.

A player must take on that responsibility first and foremost, with or without the county. A manager come in with a year to prove himself on a rolling contract will not want to spend three quarters of his time creating physical specimens for the next manager to benefit from.

This is exactly the kind of joined up thinking we need to put in place from about age 15 and upwards. Personally I have never seen such a powerful minor team as Donegal were on Sunday, and when you hear of the work Declan Bonner has done with then since under 15 it is no surprise.

They have a plan in Donegal (and in Cavan) which is aimed at sustainability. They are putting in work now that they will benefit from for the next decade. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
Big congratulations to all saints U14's winning the Div2 Feile today. They're a fine team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on June 29, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
Big congratulations to all saints U14's winning the Div2 Feile today. They're a fine team.

I'm ignorant of Antrim football but would they have a big catchment? Sleeping giant type club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2014, 10:00:35 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on June 29, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
Big congratulations to all saints U14's winning the Div2 Feile today. They're a fine team.

I'm ignorant of Antrim football but would they have a big catchment? Sleeping giant type club?

No not really, I did the line on their Antrim Under 14 final, they have a lot of big lads and a decent team, like most clubs this comes in cycles, can they hold on to them and generate a senior team from it? I doubt it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2014, 10:06:41 PM
Way to burst a bubble MR...

Catchment ok but the town predominantly protestant and soccer a big draw too which detracts a bit.

Strong enough club ballymena and i would say a lot of work has went into underage etc so fair play to them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2014, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2014, 10:06:41 PM
Way to burst a bubble MR...

Catchment ok but the town predominantly protestant and soccer a big draw too which detracts a bit.

Strong enough club ballymena and i would say a lot of work has went into underage etc so fair play to them.

Sorry, I forgot to say well done lol. No I'm not being funny, didn't mean it to come across like that, it's the step up to senior, Rossa and St Endas and off course St Johns most years have had some great juvenile teams in the past, where are they now?

Anyways, Ballymena had a strong team a few years ago, but they are a yo-yo club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
St johns struggle in either code to bring youth through. Endas and rossa too young yet. Creggan and lamh dearg should be the ones that should be bringing it through next year or two.

See what you mean though. Hope they can bring it through. They've had a number of solid antrim seniors this last 20 years so so hopefully get a few more here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on June 29, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Congratulations to all saints on their tremendous victory today.

Also well done to Aghagallon who reached the final of their division.

Great to see Antrim youth perform so well on the national stage, bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
Was the Feile run the same as the hurling? Elite clubs playing elsewhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2014, 10:38:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
No

Straight to the point as usual Skull. So the achievements of Ballymena are even better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
It was hard enough work trying to find somewhere In the West yesterday to watch double header at Croker >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
It was hard enough work trying to find somewhere In the West yesterday to watch double header at Croker >:(

You head to any Gaa club? Pubs in the west won't play Gaa games, Horse racing, soccer and tennis before Gaa games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
Limerick in Limerick for the qualifiers. Not the worst draw we could have got. Mainly I was hoping we didn't get Laois. I'd say Limerick will fancy their chances but no reason we can't win this one as Limerick aren't what they were either and struggled somewhat with London.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
It was hard enough work trying to find somewhere In the West yesterday to watch double header at Croker >:(

You head to any Gaa club? Pubs in the west won't play Gaa games, Horse racing, soccer and tennis before Gaa games

Aye ended up in St Pauls, still only the one TV in there showing it! What's the story with the horse racing-would most places be doing a book on the side seeing that bookies are not allowed to open on Sundays?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 30, 2014, 10:02:08 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 30, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
It was hard enough work trying to find somewhere In the West yesterday to watch double header at Croker >:(

You head to any Gaa club? Pubs in the west won't play Gaa games, Horse racing, soccer and tennis before Gaa games

Aye ended up in St Pauls, still only the one TV in there showing it! What's the story with the horse racing-would most places be doing a book on the side seeing that bookies are not allowed to open on Sundays?
No, nowhere does that.

;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 02, 2014, 10:14:41 AM
Good picture in todays Irish News of the All saints feile winning team. To go six games without defeat in a high standard division two is well worth another mention. Great to see their hard work at juvenile level paying off. From what I have been told, most of the main men on that team are expected to come through to senior. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 02, 2014, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 02, 2014, 10:14:41 AM
Good picture in todays Irish News of the All saints feile winning team. To go six games without defeat in a high standard division two is well worth another mention. Great to see their hard work at juvenile level paying off. From what I have been told, most of the main men on that team are expected to come through to senior. Well done to all involved.

Meant to post this. Superb result. Great to see!! Any idea how this came about? Were local primary schools targeted by the County Board and lots of coaching given?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 02, 2014, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 02, 2014, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 02, 2014, 10:14:41 AM
Good picture in todays Irish News of the All saints feile winning team. To go six games without defeat in a high standard division two is well worth another mention. Great to see their hard work at juvenile level paying off. From what I have been told, most of the main men on that team are expected to come through to senior. Well done to all involved.

Meant to post this. Superb result. Great to see!! Any idea how this came about? Were local primary schools targeted by the County Board and lots of coaching given?

From what I hear lots of work going on in the primary schools, also with good out reach programmes to involve non traditional kids. There are number who have come from the rugby club and local soccer clubs from what I hear, really pleased for a club who had their fair share of trouble over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2014, 11:41:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 02, 2014, 10:14:41 AM
Good picture in todays Irish News of the All saints feile winning team. To go six games without defeat in a high standard division two is well worth another mention. Great to see their hard work at juvenile level paying off. From what I have been told, most of the main men on that team are expected to come through to senior. Well done to all involved.

You know that's not always the case bannside, under 14's can take so many different routes in life, this is an exceptional team no doubt, did the line when the beat Rossa at O'D's pitch and I noticed they had a few big lads which at that level makes a big big difference. Now shoot forward 4/5 years these lads will be the same height as everyone else and the standard of football that they will have played in, in Antrim will not have moved them on that much. Now here's the hard work finding the motivation to keep these lads all together and moving onto a senior team. We've lost countless players that have played in successive Feile teams and Championship winning minor and Under 21 teams (5 years in a row) a lot of these lads are lost now, god knows where they are.

By the way I'm not pissing on their parade, I'd love to see (at the expense of my club) other teams challenging for the championship, lets see if traditional clubs like Rossa and St Johns who've had great success at those levels also can make the grade be fore saying Ballymena will have these lads at senior.

For Ballymena the real hard work starts now, I hope to see them do well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 02, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Fair points well made MR2. The main thing is that "something" is working to allow Ballymena to get out of Antrim and prove beyond doubt that there was nothing lucky about that. Anyone who had done the feile thing (Sean Stinsons were beaten in a div 3 final a few years back) will know its not easy getting through the group stages and most of the better teams will need to have their quota of top quality players to have any chance of success.

Hopefully the core of the team will stick around, but time will tell.

A special shout out to Jim Brady who worked wonders in his short time as principal in St Marys primary Portglenone. He won all county and Ulster honours with the primary school at that time, and nearly every one of the Portglenone team who won the county U-21 title earlier this year were under his influence during those key formative years.

Now Jim has been principal in the Ballymena primary school for the past seven or eight years, and you can start to see a pattern emerging here. He wont be doing this on his own, but getting the basics right at primary school level and sowing those initial seeds can have a very positive medium and long term effect.

But of course this feile victory is just a stepping stone and not all will see it through to senior level. Another question is whether there is another batch or two in their pipeline to back this group up? Wouldnt rule it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 05, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
FT Limerick 3-11 Antrim 0-15. Nine goals conceded in three games shows where the problem is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on July 05, 2014, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: AQMP on July 05, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
FT Limerick 3-11 Antrim 0-15. Nine goals conceded in three games shows where the problem is.

Problem has to be management,root and branch chance needed in county,putting in place a 5/10 year plan.County Board need to think outside the box and put a team in place with resources to improve from Minor through U21 to Senior.Get Bannside and people like him to put a plan in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 06, 2014, 09:54:28 AM
Aye right u are Glens abu..................but will such grand plan involve ensuring that all will make themselves available..............????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on July 06, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 06, 2014, 09:54:28 AM
Aye right u are Glens abu..................but will such grand plan involve ensuring that all will make themselves available..............????

Don't think it is about all being available,think it is about CB getting the right dedicated team in place to put such a plan into action.There are many ex county players out there who have shown an interest in being involved with the county from Minor up.Put the money in and get them on board with a 5/ 10 year plan not putting another Dawson or Baker in place hoping to win one C'chip game or get a promotion one season and down again the next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 07, 2014, 10:20:38 AM
Another year done and dusted for our county footballers and here is a brief resume from my own personal opinion.

The pluses were brief. A sublime 45 minutes of excellent football against Fermanagh, and good too for one half of the game against Donegal (but really they were just toying with us TBH).

Probably our most disappointing season in living memory. We totally collapsed in second half of matches time and time again with the exception of the London game. We threw away leads against against Wicklow, Carlow, and Waterford. We lost leads that should have been impossible to lose. We tried our best to lose to Fermanagh (but for the foot of Kobo). We didn't turn up in the second half against Donegal. We lose the second half to Limerick by 7 points - playing with a good wind.

Started the year 26th in the all Ireland ratings - probably have slipped to 28th/29th. Our worst rating ever. Our supporters are voting with their feet. Our turnouts at league games are non existent, and our support in Clones and at in Limerick was woeful. And we still have players missing who could be contributing a lot more to our cause.

Baker really must be wondering why he ever came back again. He left a decent legacy after his first term, but looks in real danger of totally destroying that. Paddy too certainly hasnt got his coaching/managerial career off to the start he envisaged, - and unless its all about the money-  then they really do need to be thinking about their positions right now. Not just for our sakes, but for their own too. They have tough decisions to make, because if they try to flesh out another year, and it has even more potential for disaster, then they would not just lose any remaining credibility they have, but would lose their reputations into the  bargain.

We cant go about blaming managers all the time, thats far too easy. The players need to look at why they are losing large leads in the second half of games. The board needs to ask what could it reasonably do to obtain a better result than 2014.

But Baker has the biggest call to make. Does he really still feels he can do anything more for us by seeking a sixth year out of seven?




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 07, 2014, 03:33:35 PM
Anyone any idea when club championships are due to start now that there are no County distractions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on July 07, 2014, 08:36:44 PM
I think Kevin madden summed our season up well in Irish news today.

I don't think money comes into it bannside as like urself baker and paddy r football men. Both have other commitments football and other, the time and effort needed for county management is unreal and I don't think ur time can have a price put on it. Sure paddy cudve got plenty of work with bbc tv or radio.

The mac as far as I know these r the dates for sfc, IFC and JFC.

Weekend of 10th August - prelims IFC and JFC

Weekend of 17th August -prelims sfc, qtr finals IFC and JFC

Weekend of 7th sept -qtr finals sfc, semis IFC and JFC

Weekend of 27th sept - semi finals sfc

Weekend of 5th oct - finals IFC and JFC

I could be wrong or as they wud say on county website, ask ur club secretary lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on July 07, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
Forgot about sfc final

Weekend of 18th oct sfc final.

Here's a link to draws

www.antrimgaa.net/uploads/assets/2014antrimchampionshipdraws.pdf (http://www.antrimgaa.net/uploads/assets/2014antrimchampionshipdraws.pdf)

Hopefully our 1st class pro will try his best to get the games and dates promoted nearer the time!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 08, 2014, 08:05:18 AM
Maddens article in yesterdays Irish News Culchie was spot on -in fairness he is never too far off the mark. He knows that there are a lot of issues which need resolved before Antrim can attempt to be any sort of respectable force in football. All the faults cannot be laid at any one door and he  isn't rushing to blame the management in particular. As I said too yesterday, that would be too simplistic. We have been doing that for too long.

But on the subject of management, they do need to consider their own options very carefully. They have as much to lose as to gain and I'm sure that point isn't lost on them too.

If they plan to stay I would run with it for another year.  But I would like to know what exactly they might do differently in order to get a better net result than what we got in 2014,, which they need to man up and admit was a major disappointment in terms of their (and our) expectations.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 10, 2014, 10:36:15 AM
CB exucutive only interested in winning championship match v fermanagh this year and promotion out of div 4. Madden offered a mmore long term progressive approach . In terms of strength and conditioning work , antrim are a long way behind. There is good work taking place at development squad level but it needs to be more organised and consistent.     It is interesting to see the diFference in approach with senior hulers; this is a more pragmatic , building the squad and systems of play. I wonder what kevin ryan makes of the set up in antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2014, 12:25:02 AM
Are there many football only clubs in Antrim?
Just wondering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2014, 12:34:45 AM
North antrim is hurling territory. South west more football territory and city mixed.

South west tend to have hurling teams in lower leagues but it's picking up a good bit and even a division one team in ahoghill now.

Offhand portglenone and aghagallon. Belfast have some hurling amalgamations and have lost track of who is represented...probably st malachys and st brigids too. Lisburn and antrim town as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2014, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2014, 12:25:02 AM
Are there many football only clubs in Antrim?
Just wondering.
cargin is the one that springs to mind, Portglenone didn't used to but may have changed
I know Moneyglass have started it at youth level
I think all the Belfast teams prob would be dual
(but im an outsider here so probably about 50% wrong )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2014, 12:56:04 AM
D'oh forgot cargin and moneyglass...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 20, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2014, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2014, 12:25:02 AM
Are there many football only clubs in Antrim?
Just wondering.
cargin is the one that springs to mind, Portglenone didn't used to but may have changed
I know Moneyglass have started it at youth level
I think all the Belfast teams prob would be dual
(but im an outsider here so probably about 50% wrong )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 20, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Do they really still play hurling in Belfast...................?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 20, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Do they really still play hurling in Belfast...................?

Do they still play football in Cargin ;) (Toome)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on July 20, 2014, 07:58:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 20, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Do they really still play hurling in Belfast...................?

Do they still play football in Cargin ;) (Toome)

Do they still play football anywhere in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 20, 2014, 09:38:37 PM
Jeez Hardstation u high or what......................I may be accused of many things but.........................just what are u on about...............told u before us culchies are a wee bit thick and need enlightenment from time to time..............please :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
Well any predictions for the upcoming championships? I can't see there being too many arguments about the SFC but I'm sure there will be a few posts of 'it's cargins year' lol. Anyway I'd already posted this in the hurling thread but obviously this is the place for it so just a cut and paste job, here are my predictions

SFC St Galls; Still the best club team in the county by a mile and arguably the province, great to watch, nobody in Antrim will stop them.
IFC Portglenone; Seem a decent side, after their U-21 win last year and defeat in IFC can see this being a good year for them. St Enda's could be dark horses, a good bit of momentum in Div 3 can count for an awful lot.
JFC Antrim; Prob the hardest champ to call, any of 5 teams could take it Antrim, Eire Og, Ardoyne, Mals or Aggies. Always enjoy JFC teams seem to 'go for it more' Antrim seem to be building a good side and think they have enough for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
St Galls haven't been arguably the best side in the province for a while...Losing the county boys will probably help them though so would still expect them to win.

Antrim seem to have improved a lot. Ardoyne may challenge them though.

Are moneyglass or st teresa in the intermediate? They may challenge.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
St Galls haven't been arguably the best side in the province for a while...Losing the county boys will probably help them though so would still expect them to win.

Antrim seem to have improved a lot. Ardoyne may challenge them though.

Are moneyglass or st teresa in the intermediate? They may challenge.

Well off the pace for that standard, Cargin Galls final I expect again, some teams haven't pushed on when expected too, ah well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
Yeah - I was hoping Creggan and Lamh Dearg would be pushing on a bit  and challenging you / Cargin by now to open it up but doesn't seem to have happened.

A few good underage teams from GNM really don't seem to have come through either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
Yeah - I was hoping Creggan and Lamh Dearg would be pushing on a bit  and challenging you / Cargin by now to open it up but doesn't seem to have happened.

A few good underage teams from GNM really don't seem to have come through either.

Does that surprise you? Keeping kids from those areas involved and progressing is the hardest thing to do. It's a credit to the members for year on year out working with juveniles. That goes for most Belfast clubs, too many other interests to keep them competitive at senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 04:19:10 PM
I don't know that neck of the woods well enough to know to be honest.

Country clubs have that problem too but just to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 04:29:32 PM
Drink and drugs in a lot of clubs for sure, and not just in Turf Lodge. But they've had a run of tragedies over the past few years which hasn't helped.

Having great Juveniles is one thing, keeping them senior is another, take your eye of it for a second and you become an also ran, we are in danger of that due to the lack of juvenile success but managing to buck the trend soon enough, hopefully it wont take too long
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 22, 2014, 06:27:36 PM
Hear that Cargin are about to commence training, and the word on the ground says that they are not going to stand in the way of St Gall's in their quest for 8 in a row...............seems they are going to concede in the final (if they get there)............. ;) Sure K Mc G has retired it seems, and his broad back has been carrying the Milltown men for years................they will need assistance :-X

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 22, 2014, 06:27:36 PM
Hear that Cargin are about to commence training, and the word on the ground says that they are not going to stand in the way of St Gall's in their quest for 8 in a row...............seems they are going to concede in the final (if they get there)............. ;) Sure K Mc G has retired it seems, and his broad back has been carrying the Milltown men for years................they will need assistance :-X

I back Cargin every year and they let me down!! Well once ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 22, 2014, 07:05:24 PM
Cargin are 7/2 this year......................Gall's are 1/1......................biggest price they have been in years......................silly bookies. :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 08:22:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 22, 2014, 07:05:24 PM
Cargin are 7/2 this year......................Gall's are 1/1......................biggest price they have been in years......................silly bookies. :o

That's a good bet either way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 22, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
St Galls haven't been arguably the best side in the province for a while...Losing the county boys will probably help them though so would still expect them to win.

Antrim seem to have improved a lot. Ardoyne may challenge them though.

Are moneyglass or st teresa in the intermediate? They may challenge.

St Teresas are current IFC champions - but are playing SFC this year
Is this by choice ?
they are top of DIV 2 and have a good chance of retaining their title aswell as promotion, why play in the SFC when they wont win it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 23, 2014, 06:49:11 PM
Was at the reserve football finals on Saturday evening last and witnessed a couple of quite entertaining games but when the presentations arrived there wasn't a county official to be seen. The job was done by a country based member of the CCC but where were the county officers???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 05, 2014, 12:02:35 PM
So it's that time of year again, championship, after this weekend some teams will get that shot in the arm a championship win can give and others will be left to pick up the pieces for the league ending. Here are my predictions for this weekend:

JFC

Lisburn v Ballycastle: Fancy the castle by 2-3 points, don't think either team will be in the mix for JFC but both will fancy their chances of progressing here.

IFC

Glenravel v Randalstown: Going to go with Tir Na nOg here, seem a decent side anytime i've seen them they seem to move the ball well and work good scores, no more reliance on Magill.

Ballymena v St Endas: Both teams going well in their leagues, St Endas could cause a surprise here and will be quietly confident of an upset, but this Ballymena team have been there done that at this level and i can see them winning by 2-3 points.

Glenavy v Davitts: Fancy Glenavy here by 6-7 points, Davitts are a decent side but in their 1st year back at this level i think they might struggle. Hopefully they prove me wrong and run it a bit tighter, some excellent footballers.

Sarsfields v Dunloy: All Div 3 clash, can't see past Sars though, good young team with that bit of experience, Dunloy having their usual problems with hurlers gearing up for SHC, Sars by 4.

Gort Na Mona v St Brigids: Think the Malone Road men will have enough here to get through, Gort will make it difficult for them though, will be tighter than league form shows, Brigids by 2.

Portglenone v O'Donells: Cant look past Portglenone here, seem to be coming back slowly but surely, blooding a few of the players that got them the U-21 title last year, will stand them well for a crack at IFC this year, Casements by 7.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 07, 2014, 04:43:39 PM
Is the Baker for real  ???Does he really think he did a good job this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 10, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Jeez u really admire the Baker glens abu...........................are u after his job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 10, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
Does anyone know the exact position regarding the county senior, U-21 or minor management positions? The word is that ALL positions are under review and clubs have until 22 August to make known the names of any interested parties? Can anyone here confirm or deny this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 10, 2014, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 10, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
Does anyone know the exact position regarding the county senior, U-21 or minor management positions? The word is that ALL positions are under review and clubs have until 22 August to make known the names of any interested parties? Can anyone here confirm or deny this.

All except Senior Hurling are open for nominations.  Recommendations to be brought to County Committee for approval early Sept.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 10, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Thanks Aontroim. Is the date 22 August of any significance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on August 10, 2014, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 10, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Jeez u really admire the Baker glens abu...........................are u after his job?

Ha ha not at all just can't understand what he has done this year to be so arrogant about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
Where have all the pundits gone...................nothing left to say..................MR2 on holidays???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
Where have all the pundits gone...................nothing left to say..................MR2 on holidays???

Us and Cargin in final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2014, 11:29:00 PM
U could well be right Milltown...............u could indeed. But what say u about the Intermediate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 12:14:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2014, 11:29:00 PM
U could well be right Milltown...............u could indeed. But what say u about the Intermediate?

Hopefully Sarsfields
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 22, 2014, 10:24:45 AM
Senior st galls
Intermediate casements
Junior winner of aggies and antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 22, 2014, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 10, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Thanks Aontroim. Is the date 22 August of any significance?

Don't think there's any special significance apart from giving them time to contact nominees and put something forward to next Co. Committee in early September.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 23, 2014, 02:39:15 PM
The word on the ground would suggest that we have a new manager........................Frank Fitz (jnr).................Well??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 23, 2014, 05:41:43 PM
St Galls have nominated Aidan O Rourke according to my sources. Interesting few weeks ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2014, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2014, 09:47:45 PM
Good win for our minors this evening against the Johnnies. Although the last two scores of the game were St Johns goals, we were deserving winners.

Was this a shock?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2014, 10:54:25 AM
The Johnnies will be in shock if no one else is!

Interesting column in this mornings Irish News about the senior management position. Three contenders set to attend interviews tomorrow night (although there is an unconfirmed rumour that Aidan O Rourke is assisting Kieran Mc Geeney at Armagh).

Yesterdays Antrim Post has a back page article mentioning that Seamus Mc Enaney was also approached, but declined to go forward "as a matter of principle" on the grounds that he felt the position was still "filled" by Baker.

Whilst that is the case Bantys position will not change, but he is known to have a desire to repeat his feat with Monaghan a few years ago of completing a NFL journey from Division Four to Division One, and he feels that Antrim have the players to make a go at that too.  Banty brings Martin Mc Elkennon with him too, and this partnership has been tried and tested over the years. John Mc Keever and Owen Mulligan are thought to consist of his backroom team - which whilst hypothetical for as long as Baker is still in situ - is nevertheless an interesting development nonetheless!

The three who have been nominated will each have their supporters. I expect that the players will have a voice on the interviewing committee too (or request that they have) and that will be a barometer of their thinking and their ambition. Could be interesting......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on August 27, 2014, 11:27:00 PM
Bannside, they will be more disappointed that they didn't play to their potential rather than be in shock. Fair play to Rossa. They showed a much greater hunger throughout and deserved to win. These teams have fed off each other down the years and that will continue into the next grade. As usual, bringing them through to senior and winning at that level will be the ultimate challenge...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: jdyok on August 27, 2014, 11:27:00 PM
Bannside, they will be more disappointed that they didn't play to their potential rather than be in shock. Fair play to Rossa. They showed a much greater hunger throughout and deserved to win. These teams have fed off each other down the years and that will continue into the next grade. As usual, bringing them through to senior and winning at that level will be the ultimate challenge...

That's the key, harder for Rossa given Football is second choice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 28, 2014, 09:19:11 AM
When you beat our lads (Sean Stinsons) you looked a super team, and I thought that it would be between you and St Endas. I think everyone did to be fair. I think the standard of minor this year in the county was higher than usual, with most teams having a guy or two that they would expect to kick on to county seniors in a year or two.

Fair play to Rossa though.  They tick away quietly and produce more than their share of talent in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2014, 07:36:55 AM
Think Eddie Fitz had most of the senior team with him down at Crumlin..................they were dressed in white coats and keeping an eye on those bad Cargin boys....................think they might be playing them soon!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2014, 07:48:59 AM
Cargin will destroy Lamhs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Rest in peace Terry Gibbons. His GAA column in the Andersonstown news was legendary. A true gentleman and Antrim die hard who pulled no punches but respected by all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Rest in peace Terry Gibbons. His GAA column in the Andersonstown news was legendary. A true gentleman and Antrim die hard who pulled no punches but respected by all.

+1
Would have been the first page (only page maybe) id have read on a Thursday evening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 30, 2014, 03:58:26 PM
Why would the county arrange a championship match on a Thursday night  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2014, 07:43:32 PM
Sure football is for any day but Sunday................according to the little guy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 31, 2014, 12:56:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 30, 2014, 07:43:32 PM
Sure football is for any day but Sunday................according to the little guy.

Or to suit our county players holiday plans  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 31, 2014, 09:05:16 AM
Quote from: The Worker on August 31, 2014, 12:56:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 30, 2014, 07:43:32 PM
Sure football is for any day but Sunday................according to the little guy.

Or to suit our county players holiday plans  ;)

surely that's not true? even by antrim's standards that would be ridiculous
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2014, 10:04:18 AM
Well are we not so Mr Stynes......................football on a Sunday...............that is a no no.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on August 31, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
Last year people complained that games were p,Ayer same day as all Ireland hurling final, this year that was averted, still some complain.

That IFC semi was to be fri night but venue couldn't host it due to a drive safely campaign being hosted at the club, so I am told anyway.

Sure why not put yourself forward to help out next year, naw I thought as much, ppl wud rather complain from sidelines!

In derry they play championship matches thurs to sun and the Gaels in derry love getting to see as many games as they can, whereas in antrim we just complain about everything!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 31, 2014, 10:04:45 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on August 31, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
Last year people complained that games were p,Ayer same day as all Ireland hurling final, this year that was averted, still some complain.

That IFC semi was to be fri night but venue couldn't host it due to a drive safely campaign being hosted at the club, so I am told anyway.

Sure why not put yourself forward to help out next year, naw I thought as much, ppl wud rather complain from sidelines!

In derry they play championship matches thurs to sun and the Gaels in derry love getting to see as many games as they can, whereas in antrim we just complain about everything!

Putting a game on a thursday night at 8.30 and more or less a home venue  for one team as well is stupid. Fellas that work away can't get a chance to get home to play for their club in their championship matches. Fri sat and sun games would get far more ppl attending than a thursday night as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2014, 10:42:41 PM
Can't envisage an exodus from Portglenone or Aghagallon to Croke Park on All Ireland hurling day................seems the little guys who run the county (one with a huge chip and the other with a huge salary) have little time for football or those who follow................an 8.15 start on a Thursday evening would ensure the Aghagallon folk would not get home until around 11pm/11.30pm...................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Apparently we should know the name of the person that Antrim executive would like to recommend to manage our senior footballers by the weekend. Another interview taking place today apparently, but club delegates were not informed who that might be. Must be top secret material if the club delegates couldn't be told.

I presume that the "name" will need to be ratified in due course by the visionaries of county committee who represent our clubs.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 02, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Bannside, whats the thoughts in Portglenone around playing a Championship semi final on a thursday night? The venue obviously suits you more than Aghagallon but surely a saturday fixture would have been preferred or is it simply a case of just getting on with it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on September 02, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Bannside, whats the thoughts in Portglenone around playing a Championship semi final on a thursday night? The venue obviously suits you more than Aghagallon but surely a saturday fixture would have been preferred or is it simply a case of just getting on with it?

I don't see the problems with this unless it's got issues with lights. Senior football games went ahead last night in Antrim, us against Rossa and the Johnnies v St Pauls. Will a player be better prepared at the weekend or after a day at work be too tired to play a Championship match? as that will be the same for everybody. Less people come and watch their club mid week than weekends possibly? It would be one complaint but again if it's championship.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 02, 2014, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on September 02, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Bannside, whats the thoughts in Portglenone around playing a Championship semi final on a thursday night? The venue obviously suits you more than Aghagallon but surely a saturday fixture would have been preferred or is it simply a case of just getting on with it?

I don't see the problems with this unless it's got issues with lights. Senior football games went ahead last night in Antrim, us against Rossa and the Johnnies v St Pauls. Will a player be better prepared at the weekend or after a day at work be too tired to play a Championship match? as that will be the same for everybody. Less people come and watch their club mid week than weekends possibly? It would be one complaint but again if it's championship.....

Its the logistics in terms of travel I would see as the problem, I take on board that games were played last night but in those instance the away teams had a short commute. Aghagallon are looking at a 50 minute to 1 hour journey which will most likely rushing home from work leaving preparation not ideal, Portglenone obviously have a maller distance to travel hence why I was interested in their view of it.

I know if I was involved in the game I would prefer a Saturday or Sunday fixture, but in the grand scheme of things I think venue, time and date wont matter as Portglenone should win regardless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 02, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
If the county captain has a holiday booked for the Friday morning then the Thursday evening throw in makes sense. At the end of the day these lads are amateurs and are entitled to take a holiday. For once the county board have made a sensible decesion. The close proximity to the venue should enable him to get home good and early to get packed too. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 02, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
Lads is the Baker gone up there or what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 02, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on September 02, 2014, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on September 02, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Bannside, whats the thoughts in Portglenone around playing a Championship semi final on a thursday night? The venue obviously suits you more than Aghagallon but surely a saturday fixture would have been preferred or is it simply a case of just getting on with it?

I don't see the problems with this unless it's got issues with lights. Senior football games went ahead last night in Antrim, us against Rossa and the Johnnies v St Pauls. Will a player be better prepared at the weekend or after a day at work be too tired to play a Championship match? as that will be the same for everybody. Less people come and watch their club mid week than weekends possibly? It would be one complaint but again if it's championship.....

Its the logistics in terms of travel I would see as the problem, I take on board that games were played last night but in those instance the away teams had a short commute. Aghagallon are looking at a 50 minute to 1 hour journey which will most likely rushing home from work leaving preparation not ideal, Portglenone obviously have a maller distance to travel hence why I was interested in their view of it.

I know if I was involved in the game I would prefer a Saturday or Sunday fixture, but in the grand scheme of things I think venue, time and date wont matter as Portglenone should win regardless

You'll not get very many children attending that's for sure! Too late for them to go see their clubs biggest game of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 02, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
Do u seriously think Ccc fixed a championship game around someone holidays, u obviously don't live in the real world.

Where else has lights to host this game?

The game cudve been at 645pm!!

Don't know what the complaining is about as all senior league games this year and last have been 8pm throwins!!

But sure it's siege mentality and a bit extra to use that county are against u lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2014, 06:50:57 PM
The fact that we now have a player available who flies out on Saturday for a weeks break is seen as a bonus for us. We did not ask, or expect any favours from the county "board" - if the match had been fixed for any other time we would have just got on with it. No one from Portglenone made any representation to CC to bring the game forward and we were as surprised as anyone that it was fixed for Thursday.

I managed Portglenone to a county final a few years back and all was going well enough until the week of the final. TWO starting players were officially designated with swine flu (2009) and had doctors certificates. I passed that info to the county chairman at the time who said that under those circumstances the game should be put back, but to wait for an hour till he got back to me. When he did it was that the game couldnt be put back (even though the following weekend was a totally free football weekend and would not have clashed with anything). My thoughts were that a "bigger" club who might have made more noise about it (or refused to play ) would have been accommodated. We took a walloping, and would have most likely in any event, but it taught me never to expect any favours from the CC.

I can see how Aghagallon may feel aggrieved especially that the venue is much closer to ourselves, but there is no other floodlit venue closer to midway that has lights qualified to host a championship game. In this instance the ball bounced in our favour, but if Aghagallon play the way they did against All Saints they will be favourites to progress.

Anyone who really wants to be there still will, children and all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 02, 2014, 06:50:57 PM
The fact that we now have a player available who flies out on Saturday for a weeks break is seen as a bonus for us. We did not ask, or expect any favours from the county "board" - if the match had been fixed for any other time we would have just got on with it. No one from Portglenone made any representation to CC to bring the game forward and we were as surprised as anyone that it was fixed for Thursday.

I managed Portglenone to a county final a few years back and all was going well enough until the week of the final. TWO starting players were officially designated with swine flu (2009) and had doctors certificates. I passed that info to the county chairman at the time who said that under those circumstances the game should be put back, but to wait for an hour till he got back to me. When he did it was that the game couldnt be put back (even though the following weekend was a totally free football weekend and would not have clashed with anything). My thoughts were that a "bigger" club who might have made more noise about it (or refused to play ) would have been accommodated. We took a walloping, and would have most likely in any event, but it taught me never to expect any favours from the CC.

I can see how Aghagallon may feel aggrieved especially that the venue is much closer to ourselves, but there is no other floodlit venue closer to midway that has lights qualified to host a championship game. In this instance the ball bounced in our favour, but if Aghagallon play the way they did against All Saints they will be favourites to progress.

Anyone who really wants to be there still will, children and all.

Now now Bannside, we definitely don't get favours from the county board! Maybe getting mixed up with another team in blue and white  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2014, 07:25:44 PM
No excuses that particular match MR2. Galls were unbeatable at that time. Not saying youse are easy to beat now either LOL but we got a right drubbing that night. The touchline twas a very lonely place - not sure if I have fully recovered yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 02, 2014, 07:25:44 PM
No excuses that particular match MR2. Galls were unbeatable at that time. Not saying youse are easy to beat now either LOL but we got a right drubbing that night. The touchline twas a very lonely place - not sure if I have fully recovered yet!

Was the only time really that we went to town on someone in a final, that's ultimately as a manager/fan/player you want to win them but they aren't the sweetest. Have been on that side of things too Bannside so I know how you feel :(

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2014, 07:58:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 02, 2014, 06:50:57 PM
The fact that we now have a player available who flies out on Saturday for a weeks break is seen as a bonus for us. We did not ask, or expect any favours from the county "board" - if the match had been fixed for any other time we would have just got on with it. No one from Portglenone made any representation to CC to bring the game forward and we were as surprised as anyone that it was fixed for Thursday.

I managed Portglenone to a county final a few years back and all was going well enough until the week of the final. TWO starting players were officially designated with swine flu (2009) and had doctors certificates. I passed that info to the county chairman at the time who said that under those circumstances the game should be put back, but to wait for an hour till he got back to me. When he did it was that the game couldnt be put back (even though the following weekend was a totally free football weekend and would not have clashed with anything). My thoughts were that a "bigger" club who might have made more noise about it (or refused to play ) would have been accommodated. We took a walloping, and would have most likely in any event, but it taught me never to expect any favours from the CC.

I can see how Aghagallon may feel aggrieved especially that the venue is much closer to ourselves, but there is no other floodlit venue closer to midway that has lights qualified to host a championship game. In this instance the ball bounced in our favour, but if Aghagallon play the way they did against All Saints they will be favourites to progress.

Anyone who really wants to be there still will, children and all.

very good sir Alex ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2014, 08:30:17 PM
Thought you would be lying low this week Hoof!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2014, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 02, 2014, 08:30:17 PM
Thought you would be lying low this week Hoof!!

if the results go my way this week, i will have to lie low for the final !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
Big yin, you've got more clubs than Rory ha ha.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2014, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 02, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
Big yin, you've got more clubs than Rory ha ha.

only one really - and they're out !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 03, 2014, 10:39:39 PM
Aye, bannside white hill ten mile the other way and five minutes from antrim at say a 7:45 throw in would have been terrible. The world would have caved in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 05, 2014, 07:14:44 AM
Well done Portglenone. The better side on the night and I hope they go on and win it now. We didn't play to our best and we have a young side so they will have learned a lot from this. We just started putting effort into the season too late on, portglenone have been playing well all year so it would be a shame if they don't go on and win it. We will be back next year!

Also, terrible news about Eddie, puts it all into perspective! RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 05, 2014, 07:49:06 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 04, 2014, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
Decent referee and decent fella. RIP Eddie

Mate please take this down some family dont know this is inappropriate

You could have at least practice what you preach ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on September 05, 2014, 08:04:22 AM

Came across as a great character altogether, he'll be missed reffing round the place. RIP.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 05, 2014, 08:08:45 AM
RIP - a big loss to Antrim GAA, but most importantly to his own family circle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 05, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 05, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Some result for St Teresa's!!!!

Yip. Same ol Johnnies HS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
Sincere commiserations to the Fitzsimmons and Lamh Dhearg clan on the tragic passing of Eddie Fitz. Antrim Football will be a lot poorer for his loss, real characters like Eddie are not easily replaced. Thoughts and prayers from the South West.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
Well done to St Teresas - on a nice progressive curve and showing that the better division two teams can hold their own with mid table division one, as has been the case for several years. Not at all surprised by the result, and wouldnt be in the least bit surprised either to hear that a certain Teresas defender, Conor Mallon, was the best player on the pitch. Usually is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 05, 2014, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 22, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
St Galls haven't been arguably the best side in the province for a while...Losing the county boys will probably help them though so would still expect them to win.

Antrim seem to have improved a lot. Ardoyne may challenge them though.

Are moneyglass or st teresa in the intermediate? They may challenge.

St Teresas are current IFC champions - but are playing SFC this year
Is this by choice ?
they are top of DIV 2 and have a good chance of retaining their title aswell as promotion, why play in the SFC when they wont win it ?

i know it's early yet but that's why im sitting here drinking wine and not been asked on to The Sunday Game yet !!

and still going for promotion too - Fair fucks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 06, 2014, 11:43:22 AM
Sad and difficult weekend with the loss of a friend and colleague, and I would just like to say to the supporter out there at one of his last games who thought he was being the center of attention feel like a C*** now and lets hope everyone makes that out of you in the not to distant future, your fame is only beginning.. Eddy Rest in Peace all our thoughts are with you and the family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2014, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 06, 2014, 11:43:22 AM
Sad and difficult weekend with the loss of a friend and colleague, and I would just like to say to the supporter out there at one of his last games who thought he was being the center of attention feel like a C*** now and lets hope everyone makes that out of you in the not to distant future, your fame is only beginning.. Eddy Rest in Peace all our thoughts are with you and the family.

Still digesting this, very hard to take haven been with him last Sat in Loughgiel, he was in great form and full of life, so sad. Had great banter with Eddie over the last few years as a fellow referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 06, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 06, 2014, 11:43:22 AM
Sad and difficult weekend with the loss of a friend and colleague, and I would just like to say to the supporter out there at one of his last games who thought he was being the center of attention feel like a C*** now and lets hope everyone makes that out of you in the not to distant future, your fame is only beginning.. Eddy Rest in Peace all our thoughts are with you and the family.

Ridiculous post
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2014, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 06, 2014, 11:43:22 AM
Sad and difficult weekend with the loss of a friend and colleague, and I would just like to say to the supporter out there at one of his last games who thought he was being the center of attention feel like a C*** now and lets hope everyone makes that out of you in the not to distant future, your fame is only beginning.. Eddy Rest in Peace all our thoughts are with you and the family.


That's said to every referee every week, I doubt that would have troubled Eddie too much, and more to the point he wouldn't say to his face that's for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
Great result for st teras beating st johns in the seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 06, 2014, 10:58:33 PM
I see the Cargin L Dhearg game is set for Creggan on Wed evening at 7.30....................now the little guy is a trifle optimistic I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 07, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
Never thought i would come onto a board and have a go at a referee but have to say i witnessed the most blatent cheating on a football field for many a year last night in the junior semi final at corrigan. The amount of neutral spectators that said so made me a bit more zane as i thought i was just over paranoid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 07, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
Never thought i would come onto a board and have a go at a referee but have to say i witnessed the most blatent cheating on a football field for many a year last night in the junior semi final at corrigan. The amount of neutral spectators that said so made me a bit more zane as i thought i was just over paranoid

So don't!!! The man in question can't defend himself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 07, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
Never thought i would come onto a board and have a go at a referee but have to say i witnessed the most blatent cheating on a football field for many a year last night in the junior semi final at corrigan. The amount of neutral spectators that said so made me a bit more zane as i thought i was just over paranoid


Aye I'm sure. The ref in question is one of the most honest refs I know and I've been on the end of a few dodgy decisions by him also, but he's always put his hands up and said he was wrong if that was the case. Always cheated, never defeated eh..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 07, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
As far as the senior and intermediate championships go, St Galls and Portglenone have them to throw away. Can't see either being troubled from what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on September 07, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
As far as the senior and intermediate championships go, St Galls and Portglenone have them to throw away. Can't see either being troubled from what I've seen so far.

What about moneyglass / glenavy... They not give portglenone a game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2014, 11:25:57 PM
Of course they will.  Neither Moneyglass or Glenavy will have any inferiority complex against us. Those teams all know each other and there's never too much between them. They have all been round the block in recent years and that's making the intermediate championship more interesting than ever. Wide open.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile Aontroma on September 07, 2014, 11:28:13 PM
As far as the ref in Corrigan in the junior semi final is concerned he was fair enough to both teams.
Swings and roundabouts, both teams may have complaints but in the end he isn't here to defend himself and he shouldn't have to be! I was talking to a few neutrals myself and they said the best team won so no point in blaming the ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:23:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
I'm hearing that a certain linesman must share some of the blame.

A fella boots a lad up the hole, the linesman draws the ref's attention to it and between the two of them conclude that it's a yellow card.

Another incident whereby by a lad elbows the full back in the face before going on to score a goal. Apparently said linesman admitted that he saw the incident but for some reason didn't think it was important.

But, hey, such is life.

But sure i heard a certain rossa man was a complete dickhead and had no life outside of his computer. But hey such is life
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 08, 2014, 09:47:45 AM
What about St Pauls and St Galls??? Anyone at it? Some score!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 08, 2014, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 07, 2014, 11:25:57 PM
Of course they will.  Neither Moneyglass or Glenavy will have any inferiority complex against us. Those teams all know each other and there's never too much between them. They have all been round the block in recent years and that's making the intermediate championship more interesting than ever. Wide open.
2 decent teams aye, but after watching Portglenone tear a strong Aghagallon apart the other niht I can't see anyone in Antrim running them close. If any bookies had odds for ulster they'd be a strong bet, very powerful squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:23:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
I'm hearing that a certain linesman must share some of the blame.

A fella boots a lad up the hole, the linesman draws the ref's attention to it and between the two of them conclude that it's a yellow card.

Another incident whereby by a lad elbows the full back in the face before going on to score a goal. Apparently said linesman admitted that he saw the incident but for some reason didn't think it was important.

But, hey, such is life.

But sure i heard a certain rossa man was a complete d**khead and had no life outside of his computer. But hey such is life

Why get so annoyed. U know what happened and did nothing. And as for Baile Aontroma, feck off obviously a comgalls man.ur full of sh1t. Any neutral I talked to said it was a disgrace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:23:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
I'm hearing that a certain linesman must share some of the blame.

A fella boots a lad up the hole, the linesman draws the ref's attention to it and between the two of them conclude that it's a yellow card.

Another incident whereby by a lad elbows the full back in the face before going on to score a goal. Apparently said linesman admitted that he saw the incident but for some reason didn't think it was important.

But, hey, such is life.

But sure i heard a certain rossa man was a complete d**khead and had no life outside of his computer. But hey such is life

Why get so annoyed. U know what happened and did nothing. And as for Baile Aontroma, feck off obviously a comgalls man.ur full of sh1t. Any neutral I talked to said it was a disgrace.

Having a pop at someone while hiding behind the keyboard is well brave, Hardstation wasn't at the game so he's going on hearsay.

As for me not doing anything? I don't get what you are talking about? I run the line, any off the ball stuff that goes on that the referee doesn't see then I'll ask to call him in, as for the goal incident the referee was ten yards away from it, he called it as he seen it, ball broke to Antrim player back of the net. That's the way it goes another referee maybe would have seen it differently. Again it's difficult when your team loose and by the minimum I've lost games and feel that we didn't get the marginal calls in a match, it happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 10, 2014, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:23:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
I'm hearing that a certain linesman must share some of the blame.

A fella boots a lad up the hole, the linesman draws the ref's attention to it and between the two of them conclude that it's a yellow card.

Another incident whereby by a lad elbows the full back in the face before going on to score a goal. Apparently said linesman admitted that he saw the incident but for some reason didn't think it was important.

But, hey, such is life.

But sure i heard a certain rossa man was a complete d**khead and had no life outside of his computer. But hey such is life

Why get so annoyed. U know what happened and did nothing. And as for Baile Aontroma, feck off obviously a comgalls man.ur full of sh1t. Any neutral I talked to said it was a disgrace.

Having a pop at someone while hiding behind the keyboard is well brave, Hardstation wasn't at the game so he's going on hearsay.

As for me not doing anything? I don't get what you are talking about? I run the line, any off the ball stuff that goes on that the referee doesn't see then I'll ask to call him in, as for the goal incident the referee was ten yards away from it, he called it as he seen it, ball broke to Antrim player back of the net. That's the way it goes another referee maybe would have seen it differently. Again it's difficult when your team loose and by the minimum I've lost games and feel that we didn't get the marginal calls in a match, it happens.

I think you call everything pretty down the middle MR2 and know where you're coming from i'm of the 'some days they go for ya some days they don't' way of looking at things too, but there has to be blame with the county for this. Knowing the referees family relationship with the Antrim management surely means it wasn't fair on the ref to take that game? Not having a go at the ref, but the people who make the appointments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2014, 11:23:05 AM
Lack of ambition with O'Rourke thing or simply couldnt afford him and the backroom staff?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
Baker gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 10, 2014, 01:06:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
Baker gone.

No real surprise, not a big fan of his but if there are interviews happening for your job (public ones at that) then out of sheer pride you are going to pack it in. Don't think this has been handled well at all, there is a way to treat people and this is not it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 10, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
Glad to see the Baker go but reading today's article in Irish News as to why they don't want O'Rourke shows again the lack of ambition from the County Board.More years in the wilderness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on September 10, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
No wonder Antrim football is in the state it is, more splits than unionism. No ambition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 10, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
No wonder Antrim football is in the state it is, more splits than unionism. No ambition.

Yeah cause he did such a bang up job with Louth  ;)

Time to get the structures right from the bottom up, until we do this, no paid mercenary will ever have success regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 10, 2014, 02:17:07 PM
All they want is to get out of Div4,and that is seen as a success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 10, 2014, 02:19:52 PM
Frank Fitz just been named the new manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Applesisapples on September 10, 2014, 02:34:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 10, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 10, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
No wonder Antrim football is in the state it is, more splits than unionism. No ambition.

Yeah cause he did such a bang up job with Louth  ;)

Time to get the structures right from the bottom up, until we do this, no paid mercenary will ever have success regardless.
Whats it got to do with Louth? You've treated Bradley like S*it. If your going to sack some one then do it. Don't interview for his job behind his back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2014, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 10, 2014, 02:34:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 10, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 10, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
No wonder Antrim football is in the state it is, more splits than unionism. No ambition.

Yeah cause he did such a bang up job with Louth  ;)

Time to get the structures right from the bottom up, until we do this, no paid mercenary will ever have success regardless.
Whats it got to do with Louth? You've treated Bradley like S*it. If your going to sack some one then do it. Don't interview for his job behind his back.

Maybe not gone about it in the right way, but at the end of the day Bradley had to go.
You can't be coaching 2/3 different teams (for expenses) and be giving any of the jobs a real go.

The gravy train has to stop somewhere.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 07:10:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
Best of luck to Frankie.

+1 No stone left unturned no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 10, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 07:10:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
Best of luck to Frankie.

+1 No stone left unturned no doubt

As an outsider who is this Fitzsimmons guy? Good track record?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 10, 2014, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 07:10:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
Best of luck to Frankie.

+1 No stone left unturned no doubt

As an outsider who is this Fitzsimmons guy? Good track record?

The cheapest option they could get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 10, 2014, 11:43:14 PM
I can't be the only one who thinks Aidan o rourke has some neck on him going for the senior football manager position and then asking for a blank cheque book for five years to do whatever he felt he needed!
Sure that's a great idea, a blind man on the street could have told you that was a great idea but where was the money going to come from for that, it can't just appear from mid air!
Tbh I think you have to be careful of some of those boys want everything they ask for, it would be great to have another 10 or fifteen coaches up and down the county in the schools, but 12grand a pop where do we start the fundraising for 150,000 pound EVERY YEAR. croke park can do a bit, but it's a cop out to say we shouldn't bee doing most of it ourselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: duirtancharraig on September 11, 2014, 03:20:49 AM
The word is that the five year plan included a fundraising proposal to pay for it all. typical of the lack of ambition with coiste banaiste that they aren't willing to really face what the problems are in antrim.
All the luck in the world to Russ and whoever he brings in. hes one of the good guys and deserves a shot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 08:05:49 AM
Hear that Friday is to be D Day in the Casement Park debacle and if the Courts decide against then the new stadium will be a dead duck and the £61 million will no longer by available.................If such comes to pass what then................Who will be the winners..........certainly not the Gaels of Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2014, 11:27:23 AM
Disappointing match last night which never lived up to its billing. Cargin won with plenty to spare against a Lamh Dhearg team which offered little. They didnt create one worthwhile goal scoring chance and didnt score from play in an hours football.  I was expecting more from them but that was truthfully a shocking display from them - and Cargin need not be feeling over the world either. They did enough without looking impressive, and their display was a long way off the standard needed to trouble St Galls. Anyone care to agree or disagree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on September 11, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
Any details on the magic fundraising plan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2014, 12:02:39 PM
Which fundraising plan is that three B`s?

Great news about the residents if true Glens. I hope they did get some satisfaction somewhere, because they did have legitimate concerns it must be admitted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 11, 2014, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on September 10, 2014, 11:43:14 PM
I can't be the only one who thinks Aidan o rourke has some neck on him going for the senior football manager position and then asking for a blank cheque book for five years to do whatever he felt he needed!
Sure that's a great idea, a blind man on the street could have told you that was a great idea but where was the money going to come from for that, it can't just appear from mid air!
Tbh I think you have to be careful of some of those boys want everything they ask for, it would be great to have another 10 or fifteen coaches up and down the county in the schools, but 12grand a pop where do we start the fundraising for 150,000 pound EVERY YEAR. croke park can do a bit, but it's a cop out to say we shouldn't bee doing most of it ourselves

Think we need to have a wee bit of ambition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2014, 12:28:48 PM
We are a mile behind the way the hurling people organise themselves. They have ASH going and a good working support group in behind the scenes for all the extra bits and pieces. This goes into their development squads as well - so fair play to them for getting their finger out.

The football people havent done that. We are stagnant, leaderless, and rudderless. We accept mediocrity as if its our lot, without as much as a whimper.

County supporters have stopped going to matches. They dont even get animated enough to demand a lot more from their club delegates to CC. We are a sad bunch and hopefully a new management team can kick start something, anything actually. Thats how far we have sunk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 11, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 11, 2014, 12:02:39 PM
Which fundraising plan is that three B`s?

Great news about the residents if true Glens. I hope they did get some satisfaction somewhere, because they did have legitimate concerns it must be admitted.

Looks like I was given wrong information regarding the residents Bannside,Unfortunatley
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Of course Cargin, (if they get to the final), won't trouble St Gall's Bannside..............sure I hear they have already decided to offer little resistance to the Milltown men on their way to a most historic eight in a row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
Cargin too much quality not to be troubling St Galls. But Cargin threw it away last year when the finishing line was in sight. The question is who has kicked on since then, and it looks at this stage that the reigning champs have found another gear.

I fancied Cargin to win last year but finding it a lot more difficult to do so this year after last night. I also see a totally new Cargin style of football and I don't see where their goals are coming from based on that style. They will need a goal or two to trouble St Galls. Just my opinion but you will be glad to know I have often been proved wrong!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on September 11, 2014, 02:35:33 PM
Bannside-what about your own team now they are in their second successive intermediate final. Have they kicked on from last year and can they go one better?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on September 11, 2014, 02:35:33 PM
Bannside-what about your own team now they are in their second successive intermediate final. Have they kicked on from last year and can they go one better?

Winning it I would assume is one step further?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on September 11, 2014, 02:55:10 PM
What is about the Antrim CB that shy's away from potential managers who want to do a root and branch development of Antrim football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on September 11, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
All the best to Russ and his team, as already stated the football side needs a complete makeover.  I personally think you need 20+ good coaches to get together with an integrated plan for all ages, not just coaches with the development squads who are there just because they volunteer.  We need leaders as Bannside adhered to who will recruit and oversee development in the county.

Casement and Dunsilly are serious negatives at the minute and obviously do not create much enthusiasm in the membership in the county.  County board telling clubs they aren't allowed to run independent summer camps unless they run the official cul camp is a personal gripe of mine and IMO shows the lack of knowledge of what clubs, and the youth of the clubs actually need.

I have never been one from discouraging young players stepping up to county level but the way our county is going its swaying me towards a club matters county doesn't mentality and that's not how anyone should feel.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
Jeez Bannside, don't u believe that Cargin will be making concession to the mighty Milltown men if they are to reach the county final...........sure with one trophy already stowed away (O'Cahan cup) and on the cusp of adding another (Div one title) sure the Toome men will certainly settle for two ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
Jeez Bannside, don't u believe that Cargin will be making concession to the mighty Milltown men if they are to reach the county final...........sure with one trophy already stowed away (O'Cahan cup) and on the cusp of adding another (Div one title) sure the Toome men will certainly settle for two ;)

Another Concession? Surely beating ya's up the country is concession enough ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
Thought we had an agreement MR2................but keep it to yourself...............as for country based finals.............get used to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
Thought we had an agreement MR2................but keep it to yourself...............as for country based finals.............get used to it.

You can have this year if we get to the hurling final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 05:54:06 PM
Disappointed to hear that spectators entered the field of play to engage in a bout of fisticuffs with a player in last nights game.

No way!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2014, 06:14:35 PM
Happened right in front of where I was standing. Young lad of fifteen or sixteen got a bit carried away - and got a swift box on the lugs for his troubles. Nothing more than that. You want to have been at Owenbeg to see Kilrea and the Loup. Full scale on and off the field and probably not a word about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 06:18:27 PM
Have to agree with MR2 Hardstation.......I was there and did not see such....were u in attendance or on the ditch.......again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 11, 2014, 06:14:35 PM
Happened right in front of where I was standing. Young lad of fifteen or sixteen got a bit carried away - and got a swift box on the lugs for his troubles. Nothing more than that. You want to have been at Owenbeg to see Kilrea and the Loup. Full scale on and off the field and probably not a word about it.

There is some mouthing at games!! Hearing more, reckon it's getting worse or I'm more prone to hearing it now in my role
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
Think if Bannside has a mind to clarify, the "young lad" of whom he speaks was a "water carrier" and did not ascend the wire to as good old hardstation suggests engage in fisticuffs......Jeez no wonder we are in such a mess!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
Agree CB. The young lad was indeed a designated water carrier, but he got a little carried away himself. Nothing really to see here, it was over in a flash and the cool heads sorted it out before it escalated.

Dreen, you make a great point that no one here has touched on for a while. A lot of great clubmen are totally pissed with all things county. So many people who could contribute so much to the county really have really just switched off. Dont want to know. A fresh leadership would change a lot of that and create new impetus.

We are a great county with great gaels, but only a fraction of our talented personnel work at county level and they are not representative of the calibre, or quality that exists within many clubs. It would be amazing what might happen with a big read out! But thats not far away I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
Is this manager a case of jobs for the boys or what?

No ambition in this county.

Sickened with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 12, 2014, 09:37:43 AM
Quote from: Gold on September 11, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
Is this manager a case of jobs for the boys or what?

No ambition in this county.

Sickened with it

We had the same problem in Sligo for years lads. Everyone blamed everything else like Sligo Rovers support basis, small county, struggling rural clubs. It wasn't till there was a proper shake up of the county board and they got good heads in with business brains and those who knew how to raise funds. We aren't exactly shaking the world up with our football but we won a Connacht a few years ago and our underage structures are very strong. Ambition is everything, excuses is nothing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2014, 09:41:02 AM
Brendan Crossan dosent miss and hit the wall in his "Boot Room" column in todays Irish News.

Some gems. " If there is a worse way to do your business you can bet your last euro that the Antrim board will choose that path" is one that stands out.

Lets be clear about this. Some of these men (not all it has to be said) involved in running Antrim at the minute are not our friends. They are wading in a pile of their own self made shite, going from one disastrous debacle to another. They are a mile out of their depth and in fact are a real and present danger to us all. If they had ANY remote sense of honour or dignity they would put their hands up and admit that, and move aside at the earliest opportunity.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2014, 09:58:55 AM
CK, thanks for your imput and concern. Your point is most valid and in most encouraging. We understand where we are at, and its good to know that you guys have got some good structures working in Sligo.

Interestingly Antrim are trying very hard to put the correct structures in place for hurling, and are succeeding to some tangible extent. Under age hurling development work is going well, and there are a lot of good hurling people who have stood up and made things happen. Kevin Ryan gets a lot of support for his various initiatives as senior and under twenty one manager, especially things like strength and conditioning etc. Best of all they have a clear vision of what they are trying to achieve, and there are lots of people, including the business community, are putting their shoulder to the wheel.

Football, by comparison is a disaster area. But yes, everything we need to do is achievable. All it takes is for the county to call an open meeting of anyone interested in fixing those problems to come together and do something about it. Thats all it would take. But amazingly, this has not happened.

Personally what I would like to see is a football sub committee implemented to oversee ALL things football. From coaching the coaches, to school development, to individual conditioning programmes, to a joined up plan, to some essential criteria for the selection of managers, and most of all a support group that would raise the necessary finance to help make things happen.  ALL ACHIEVABLE.

I would forecast that we would be a solid division two team, pointing upwards, at worst within five years.

Now this WONT happen under our current administration. No one wants to work with them or be anywhere near them.

Thereby the short term challenge is not football related at all. That will come next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 12, 2014, 11:24:40 AM
We are at a low ebb alright. Brendan Crossan may have some valid points but boy does he love having a go at Antrim in his column.

I'm not sure that giving Aidan O'Rourke a blank cheque and a 5 year term was the right answer, he didn't exactly lift Louth to new heights. And in a roundabout way maybe Fitzy is well placed to work with the current crop having looked after the U21s for the last 2 seasons. However we got to where we are Frank and his team deserve support at this stage. We should recall that we had a terrific - if scary - win over Fermanagh and were competitive V Donegal for half a game. Our U21s put in 2 strong performances V Armagh. The raw materials would appear to be there.

But I'm not glossing over anything, a major overhaul is required, there has to be a will to accept that (which isn't there) and it needs resources (they aren't there either it seems.) We are in dark days. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 12, 2014, 12:12:55 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on September 12, 2014, 11:24:40 AM
We are at a low ebb alright. Brendan Crossan may have some valid points but boy does he love having a go at Antrim in his column.

I'm not sure that giving Aidan O'Rourke a blank cheque and a 5 year term was the right answer, he didn't exactly lift Louth to new heights. And in a roundabout way maybe Fitzy is well placed to work with the current crop having looked after the U21s for the last 2 seasons. However we got to where we are Frank and his team deserve support at this stage. We should recall that we had a terrific - if scary - win over Fermanagh and were competitive V Donegal for half a game. Our U21s put in 2 strong performances V Armagh. The raw materials would appear to be there.

But I'm not glossing over anything, a major overhaul is required, there has to be a will to accept that (which isn't there) and it needs resources (they aren't there either it seems.) We are in dark days.

Think you are glossing over it Brendan,when people like big Tyrone can have the final say in who gets the job something badly wrong with CB.Do not always agree with Crossan but think he is spot on this time and you guys need to take a good look at yourselves and those holding back progress should move on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
Brendan knows better than anyone Glens where the problems lie and is as good a gael as there is. Yes he has to stick to the official line at times but that is due to circumstances.  In a progressive management committee he would be a valuable asset.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 12, 2014, 03:01:43 PM
Glen - if this

'A major overhaul is required, there has to be a will to accept that (which isn't there) and it needs resources (they aren't there either it seems.) We are in dark days.'

is glossing over, I'd hate to read an honest assessment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 14, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
So the Milltown men are in two finals...................what chance the double?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 14, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Hurling final is down for same weekend as senior football semis, football will prob be moved. Galls will give hurling their best shot, c'dall will be tough to crack.

IFC final should be a cracker. Portglenone had a good win today over st Teresa's.

Moneyglass proved too strong for Glenavy.

Portglenone slight favs only just, they have a bigger goal threat.

Goals win games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 14, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
So the Milltown men are in two finals...................what chance the double?

Creggan gives yous a game last year, I expect a tight low scoring game, can't see Creggan going 15 0n 15. Cargin easier rout to the final so they will be a lot fresher for it, ah well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 14, 2014, 10:37:47 PM
Watched Moneyglass brush a strong Glenavy aside to-day and the Intermediate final will be evens your pick...............Creggan do fancy their chances against the Milltown row men........in the upcoming senior semis.......But................Cargin will probably struggle to get over St Teresa's and will concede to Gall's in the final as previously agreed...................Bannside ain't impressed with the Toome men anyway....and Comghall's are a shoo in in the junior. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 15, 2014, 02:22:38 PM
I think Cargin will beat St Theresas handy, Portglenone gave them a hammering in the league yesterday and I don't think they are quite at Cargin's level. Cargin by 11. St Galls should be comfortable enough against Creggan, 5-6 points I'd say. Unless Cargin improve a lot I don't think they'll challenge St Galls, would love to be proved wrong though!
I don't agree that the intermediate is a 50-50, Portglenone have cruised through against 2 of the best teams in the championship while Moneyglass have struggled. As I said before I think Portglenone will have a good shout in Ulster and possibly beyond. PG1 by 5.
I don't know much about the junior but I'd like to see Antrim win it. I'll guess Antrim by the minimum.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2014, 09:37:47 AM
Wondering if any Antrim clubs are going to sevens tournaments this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 09:50:09 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 17, 2014, 09:37:47 AM
Wondering if any Antrim clubs are going to sevens tournaments this weekend?

We are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 17, 2014, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 17, 2014, 09:37:47 AM
Wondering if any Antrim clubs are going to sevens tournaments this weekend?

your still alive ! Thank f**k for that, I woke on Sat morning to the headline "Lord bannside dead"
I was worried for a while thinking that man is going to miss the county final !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2014, 12:55:36 PM
Fair play to St Galls. Two finals coming up and still doing Kilmacud. What a great club.

Been called many things Hoof but never Lord. Only one of those and he wasn't called Ian either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 17, 2014, 12:55:36 PM
Fair play to St Galls. Two finals coming up and still doing Kilmacud. What a great club.

Been called many things Hoof but never Lord. Only one of those and he wasn't called Ian either!

Think a measured approach will be the view this time round, has Cargin ever went down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:31:23 PM
We are sending a strong team down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:31:23 PM
We are sending a strong team down

You backing them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 17, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Casrgi have gone down many times as you well know MR2............Kilmaclud a couple of times without success....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:42:50 PM
I will be down on sat and have a feeling for one if the dub teams. Can the host club do the double ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 17, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Casrgi have gone down many times as you well know MR2............Kilmaclud a couple of times without success....

I'm only winding you up, We've a fixation with it and that's just that. The club goes down and makes a full weekend of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Portglenone wanted a crack at the intermediate competition but we   have a league game fixed against St Brigids. For that reason I won't be at Kilmacud but it's a great day out. Usually followed by the dogs at Shelbourne.

Great promotion in the Wild Duck this weekend. A big screen to watch both games live from 1.30 onwards plus a four course dinner for £15. That shameless plug should get me one free pint at least.

I have fancied a Donegal double for months now  - think I touched on it in a post sometime in April - and as I haven't a penny on either of them just watch them bolt up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 17, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Casrgi have gone down many times as you well know MR2............Kilmaclud a couple of times without success....

I'm only winding you up, We've a fixation with it and that's just that. The club goes down and makes a full weekend of it.

Was at the hurling 7s couple of weeks ago and have never seen it as quiet, didn't seem as many teams entered either.

Saw the St Galls mug stall though  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 17, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 17, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Casrgi have gone down many times as you well know MR2............Kilmaclud a couple of times without success....

I'm only winding you up, We've a fixation with it and that's just that. The club goes down and makes a full weekend of it.

Was at the hurling 7s couple of weeks ago and have never seen it as quiet, didn't seem as many teams entered either.

Saw the St Galls mug stall though  ;)

And he's back down this year, the sevens aren't as popular now, as too many counties have championships on that weekend now so its the Sevens which get hit first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 17, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 17, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Casrgi have gone down many times as you well know MR2............Kilmaclud a couple of times without success....

I'm only winding you up, We've a fixation with it and that's just that. The club goes down and makes a full weekend of it.

Was at the hurling 7s couple of weeks ago and have never seen it as quiet, didn't seem as many teams entered either.

Saw the St Galls mug stall though  ;)
And you never came to say hello... Or buy a mug ffs.
Yeah the crowd was very disappointing. Always a better crowd at football so hopefully all good for Saturday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 18, 2014, 09:38:13 AM
Any word when St Galls v Creggan will take place, due to hurling final being on same weekend as original date?

Cargin v St Teresas is down for sun 28th Sept in Ballymena at 1.30pm.

Moneyglass v Portglenone is supposed to be Sun 5th Oct in Ahoghill at 4pm, i would guess that the junior final is on beforehand.

I see that the derry county board went ahead with the outrageous idea of playing a sfc semi final on a thurs night (tonight) under lights in owenbeg!!!

imagine the uproar that has caused lol only in antrim!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 18, 2014, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 18, 2014, 09:38:13 AM
Any word when St Galls v Creggan will take place, due to hurling final being on same weekend as original date?

Cargin v St Teresas is down for sun 28th Sept in Ballymena at 1.30pm.

Moneyglass v Portglenone is supposed to be Sun 5th Oct in Ahoghill at 4pm, i would guess that the junior final is on beforehand.

I see that the derry county board went ahead with the outrageous idea of playing a sfc semi final on a thurs night (tonight) under lights in owenbeg!!!

imagine the uproar that has caused lol only in antrim!!
Word is our sfc game is 4th October.... Subject to change no doubt lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 18, 2014, 11:20:26 AM
Yeah, see they are all on county website mainpage:

Sunday 28th Sept

S.F.C Semi Final

Cargin                    v        St Teresas               @        Ballymena     13.30   Taille  £8



Senior Hurling Final

Cushendall           v        St Galls                     @       Ballycastle     16.00   Taille   £10



Saturday 4th October

S.F.C  Semi Final

StGalls                  v           Creggan                 @      Glenavy          16.00    Taille   £8     



Sunday 5th October

J.F.C  Final

St Malachys         v          Naomh Comghall   @     Ahoghill         14.00

I.F.C   Final

Casements           v         Moneyglass               @    Ahoghill         16.00    Taille £7 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 18, 2014, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 18, 2014, 09:38:13 AM
Any word when St Galls v Creggan will take place, due to hurling final being on same weekend as original date?

Cargin v St Teresas is down for sun 28th Sept in Ballymena at 1.30pm.

Moneyglass v Portglenone is supposed to be Sun 5th Oct in Ahoghill at 4pm, i would guess that the junior final is on beforehand.

I see that the derry county board went ahead with the outrageous idea of playing a sfc semi final on a thurs night (tonight) under lights in owenbeg!!!

imagine the uproar that has caused lol only in antrim!!

It must be to suit someone on the county going on holidays!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2014, 06:45:18 PM
St Galls win Kilmacud sevens again. Beat Bryansford by a point in the final. Some ambassadors for Antrim Football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2014, 06:45:18 PM
St Galls win Kilmacud sevens again. Beat Bryansford by a point in the final. Some ambassadors for Antrim Football.

Yeah some pups, hopefully they haven't had any red cards!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 20, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
Well done again St Galls a credit to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 20, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
Well done Gall's...........maybe a few tired limbs........heres hoping anyway.  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 20, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
Well done Gall's...........maybe a few tired limbs........heres hoping anyway.  :-\
They played it 2 weeks before county final last year and had no Burke or McGourty available due to sending offs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on September 20, 2014, 11:27:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 20, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
Well done Gall's...........maybe a few tired limbs........heres hoping anyway.  :-\
They played it 2 weeks before county final last year and had no Burke or McGourty available due to sending offs.
Apparently rules have changed re sending offs?
Told today any sending off and suspension relates to kilmacud only?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 20, 2014, 11:48:39 PM
Will there be highlights of it anywhere?

Quote from: manballandall on September 20, 2014, 11:27:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 20, 2014, 09:26:16 PM
Well done Gall's...........maybe a few tired limbs........heres hoping anyway.  :-\
They played it 2 weeks before county final last year and had no Burke or McGourty available due to sending offs.
Apparently rules have changed re sending offs?
Told today any sending off and suspension relates to kilmacud only?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 21, 2014, 09:01:09 AM
 Here Sambo is quaking in his boots and Paul Mc Flynn has taken flight  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2014, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 21, 2014, 09:01:09 AM
Here Sambo is quaking in his boots and Paul Mc Flynn has taken flight  :)

Well I'd say they will have booked their celebration dinner already in Cushendall and rightly so. Beating two great teams on the way is some feat, they are a great wee team. I'd say McFlynn will have some tactic up his sleeve to keep it tight and maybe keep within distance of us to spring a surprise.

Oh and up the mighty St Teresa's  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
Tg4usually show a good bit of this on the Monday night show.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
Tg4usually show a good bit of this on the Monday night show.

Yeah they usually do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 21, 2014, 12:03:04 PM
Jeez don't say that MR................Sure don't u remember our pact..............? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
Got a touch of the oul butterflies MR2.......................U sure are keeping quiet ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2014, 09:26:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
Got a touch of the oul butterflies MR2.......................U sure are keeping quiet ;)

working away from home so not on as much!!

Ill be back for semi game  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on September 26, 2014, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2014, 05:50:45 PM
The front page of the Andytown News sport section??

What in the name of Jesus is that all about?

Ha ha The final frontier  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 28, 2014, 10:29:39 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Cargin through as expected. Well Country Bumpkin, were you a bit more like the thing yesterday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 29, 2014, 10:33:42 AM
Who won Antrim minors lads? St Endas??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2014, 10:37:24 AM
Rossa Walter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 29, 2014, 10:40:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 29, 2014, 10:37:24 AM
Rossa Walter

Cheers BS. Jeez I'm surprised there as Glengormley were Ulster U16 champs 2 years ago!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2014, 11:42:37 AM
They lost to St Johns who in turn were beaten by Rossa. Agree that they did have/do have a talented group there, but now that their minors days are almost over the big question is whether or not they all carry through to St Endas seniors - and if so can they make any impact at senior level.

Juvenile success is nice but thats all it is, until their club can convert that into success at senior level. Glen Maghera have set the barrier at underage level higher than anyone. Three times St Pauls tournament winners, four in a row Derry minors, a stack of Hogan Cup winners etc. The big question is what people will be saying about Maghera/St Endas in three or four years time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 29, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 29, 2014, 11:42:37 AM
They lost to St Johns who in turn were beaten by Rossa. Agree that they did have/do have a talented group there, but now that their minors days are almost over the big question is whether or not they all carry through to St Endas seniors - and if so can they make any impact at senior level.

Juvenile success is nice but thats all it is, until their club can convert that into success at senior level. Glen Maghera have set the barrier at underage level higher than anyone. Three times St Pauls tournament winners, four in a row Derry minors, a stack of Hogan Cup winners etc. The big question is what people will be saying about Maghera/St Endas in three or four years time.


Agree 100%. Long road ahead!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 29, 2014, 01:44:50 PM
Bannside how are your boys shaping up for sundays final?

has the makings of a great game!

have yous many injuries? heard u have lost one of ur midfield pair, bad job, hes been playing well this year & covers alot of ground, good experience also which wouldve been key on sunday. hope it is not as bad as i have heard.

i had yous as slight favs, now it will be more 50/50, mglass will be hoping they can field their full hand also.

cargin played well enough yest to make final, never really looked in trouble. bigger fish to fry for them. good to see justin crozier back playing also. galls should c off creggan this sat & i dont think the hurling final loss will even come into it.
if anything it will make galls even more determined to win football, as u cant take championship titles for granted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jj_saffron on September 29, 2014, 03:00:41 PM

just checking, is there any date/time scheduled for the senior football final? im guessing it will prob b sunday 12th October, or does this depend on how the semi final this wkend goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
All was going great until last week when we may have lost two players to injury Culchie. Cant see either of them back in time and thats far from ideal. Moneyglass wont fear us and probably will go down to the wire just like our last league game which ended in a draw. Both in the hunt too for promotion too, so again there`s nothing between them in overall league form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 29, 2014, 05:25:34 PM
Senior football final scheduled for 18th October.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 29, 2014, 11:27:33 PM
We still on a 'never on a Sunday theme' for the footballers Brendan? Sure why not a Monday evening in December?
:'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 29, 2014, 11:27:33 PM
We still on a 'never on a Sunday theme' for the footballers Brendan? Sure why not a Monday evening in December?
:'(

means i can have a few after the final to celebrate  ;D and not have hangover at work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 30, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 29, 2014, 11:27:33 PM
We still on a 'never on a Sunday theme' for the footballers Brendan? Sure why not a Monday evening in December?
:'(

A Monday evening in December wouldn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on September 30, 2014, 11:19:26 AM
Improved Cargin display at the weekend, good to see Justy back. Still a long way away from a performance that will cause St Galls any problems though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2014, 01:15:33 PM
So why a Saturday Brendan? Can it be because the little guys aren't very keen on the football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
Cargin will concede if St Gall's manage to get past Creggan.........Sure they don't want to halt the onward march to 8  in a row...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2014, 01:48:19 PM
Didn't look too keen on halting it last year either. Saw the finishing line and took stage fright. That's the bit that disappointed me because Cargin do have good players all over the pitch. Should have bagged a championship with this group and I wouldn't still rule it out. I stuck my neck out last year and predicted a win at a SW venue and was badly let down when they stumbled with the finishing line in sight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 30, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
From a selfish point of view as a spectator, I love Saturday evening matches. A few pints after without worrying about work the next day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 30, 2014, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 30, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
From a selfish point of view as a spectator, I love Saturday evening matches. A few pints after without worrying about work the next day.

+1

Id hazard a guess that players thoughts would be similar for the same reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 30, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2014, 01:15:33 PM
So why a Saturday Brendan? Can it be because the little guys aren't very keen on the football?

I have no idea why, but I think its a good time for a final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2014, 03:36:16 PM
Yep Cargin may well have stumbled last year and indeed they may well stumble again Bannside, but they are back again in another final..........wonder if you were amongst the many who wrote them off more than a few yesrs ago when they were beaten again in a senior final? Cargin are the only threat to the Gall's dominance unless ur vision is a lot better than mine. They do remain the only Country bases side to have claimed a senior football title in a couple of generations, despite opposition both on and off the field........Of course people are keen to pass negative comments, but write them  off at your peril.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2014, 04:15:22 PM
Couple of points to make in reply to that CB.
Firstly you need to trawl over posts made on this board several years before your arrival. I was one of many who admired the football Cargin played under JC who won the double before youse shafted him. Less macho stuff and good quality disciplined football.

Secondly I advocated several times that Casement Pk was worth three or four points start to St Galls as they knew that pitch inside out. That's why I was keen to see you get over the line last year at Ahoghill - but you tripped up at the finish while going close.

Thirdly, I have counted ten of your players who have been regular county seniors within the last three years. So if you can't win or go close to a title with players of that calibre then you should really be trying to answer that question yourselves. Could you win it this year? Yes of course you can but you will need a big big performance and that is possible.

Finally while I see Cargin always able to produce quality players and top teams in the county due to a fine tradition there, I think Portglenone will give everyone their fill of it in the next decade and be there or thereabouts with yourselves in the not too distant future. I'll let the other clubs speak for themselves!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2014, 05:02:48 PM
Hope u are right about ur boys Bannside.........but a long long road ahead.......seen more than a few pretenders come and go over the past 40 or 50 years and in that period only Cargin hace ascended the senior winners platform, despite all the obstacles placed in the way......macho football.....that was a myth perpetuated by those who looked to halt the 'country gulpins'.........remember 2000......Antrim on the rise and Cargin had a senior title taken away by those who looked to call a halt to the county's progress......They sure did that and gave a leg up to St Galls in the processs....The two best teams in the county were chucked out of the 2001 championship, St Galls seized the opportunity snd the rest is history.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2014, 05:30:02 PM
To be honest CB I am totally ashamed at the stats provided by SW teams during the 40 or 50 years you talk of.

In most of the other Ulster counties its the country teams who are dominating, and football is very strong in some rural parishes. In Antrim its the city men who claim the majority of football championships. And while Cargin do "keep them honest" the rest of the SW clubs have not come up to the mark.

That may change and every club should be able to encourage, develop and provide 15-20 decent players aged 18-30 something. Fot Gods sake thats just over one quality player per year. With all the so called underage development, Cul Camps to foster the really young ones, coaching in schools, county development squads, etc etc thats not too much to ask.

And I dont agree that anyone gave St Galls a "leg up". They won four U-21 titles in a row and went on to become one of the best teams in the country. They took a leap of faith in this group and brought them through as a unit - and there was pain in that for other so called Gallsmen. But their Mickey Culbert led future policy paid large dividends in time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 30, 2014, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on September 30, 2014, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 30, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
From a selfish point of view as a spectator, I love Saturday evening matches. A few pints after without worrying about work the next day.
+1
+1

Id hazard a guess that players thoughts would be similar for the same reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2014, 08:27:44 PM
Bannside you reckon you guys will make a step up... What are your thoughts on creggan? They've had quite a few good underage teams so hopefully they can step up too.

While i would agree that the south west could / should have done better the st galls team were an exceptional bunch. If you consider that before them there was barely an antrim team fit to compete at all in ulster they have really increased the standard by a big margin. 

I expect in the next four or five years south west teams will have a much bigger say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
But will the standards have dropped by then? Or will those teams get up to same standard and be able to compete in Europe? Oops I mean Ulster?

As for us getting a leg up CB we did manage to get to the Ulster final that year. What youse and St Pauls did was only damaging your own wellbeing not ours. When you get to the Ulster final this year Ill be there supporting you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2014, 09:23:42 PM
I know Portglenone are still a work in progress but can point to decent young crop coming through. They have a few big matches coming up which will indicate whether or not they are ready for the step up, so it's best to let the players do the talking on the pitch. But I like the steady progress curve we seem to be on.

Creggan a terrific club ITG who are a model to others how a club structure should be. You would never be there but good quality coaching going on whether it's hurling or football.

They were making big noises a few years ago with good minor and under twenty one sides and it's hard to say if this will be good enough to win titles at senior. This week may give us a clue with additional coaching expertise brought in to work alongside the excellent Paul Mc Flynn. But I can't see Creggan out of top four in Antrim Football in my lifetime to be honest. Unless hurling takes off in its place as it's getting momentum there all the time. Plus they need to nurture the Small brothers who are real talents.

I definitely think too that Antrim Football as a whole will open up greatly after this St Galls cycle is finished. In that event I do see SW reams winning at least 50% of county titles in the next generation, and about 6 or 8 clubs in even enough contention for a period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
6 or 8 maybe a stretch but yes definitely a lot more than current. I can't see creggan or cargin dropping out of top four. The question is with st galls who will make the fourth.

Underage definitely a good stepping stone but a lot of underage success has failed to come through to senior in the last while be that city or country. Hopefully that will change.

Hopefully that will be with clubs stepping up as st galls grow older rather than the standard just dropping! It's bad that st galls are still dominant and we have to talk like this but they are so dominant we can't really talk about anyone else winning anything with them about.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
Yea it would be hard to see St Galls dropping out of the top 4 but we could have said the same about the great Johnnies team that dominated the seventies and eighties.

The problem with St Galls is that they will need to find at least 10 replacements in the next few years.  That won't be hard but will they be "like for like". Who is going to step up and be the next Sean Kelly or Kieran Mc Gort etc etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
Bannside as I said I do look forward to meeting the Portglenone team who will be up there making a bid for a senior title in the near future, but I fear you are a bit away from such lofty heights.....................of course u took an under-21 title last year and were good value for that but remember Cargin and Creggan divided the previous six between them, and do you consider this as a certain recipe for future senior success ....hope does indeed spring eternal, but i can remember a most excellent Casements side which included such as Kevin Madden, Tony Convery, Martin Mc Carry, the Dohertys etc, etc and a senior crown eluded...........I do realise that a paltry four senior titles brought home to Toome in the past 20 years could and should have been more, but add 16 division one league titles, as many  victorious O' Cahan Cup campaigns, and toss in a couple of Intermediate and junior titles with two minor and three under-21s never mind the whole host of reserve titles gathered in the same fruitful period and ponder a while..............Lotta snipers taking aim at the men in green but with the notable exception of one how many can walk in their company?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
People are only interested in the present. Cargin in final already and both Creggan and ourselves looking to get there. May best team win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2014, 06:37:38 AM
True Milltown the future will look after itself. There is a lot at stake in the senior c'ship this particular year. St Galls are desperate to add another Ulster title with this vintage crop. Cargin are obsessed about proving they are thereabouts with arguably the best Antrim club team of all time. Creggan have put a lot of investment into their current squad in the belief that there could be a title in them now or at some stage in the very near future.

Only one will win though and for the rest it will be back to the drawing board.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 02, 2014, 09:41:12 AM
Cant see creggan having enough to beat st galls this weekend, they will play defensive & if you do that you are only invited st galls onto you & they know how to retain posession & wait on the right pass better than anyone.

i think the ifc final will be best game of the year, just like division 2 football it is highly competitive & never much between the 2 teams.
i think in all it has the makings of going to a replay!!
moneyglass dont seem to know when they have been beaten & portglenone are missing a few. with last years final prob in the back of their minds, nerves could prove vital for portglenone.
i hope the ref lets it flow & we get a great game for the nuetrals.

in jfc final its another tight one, st mals lost out last year to a good davitts team. st comgalls have improved well in the last few years & i would like to see them winning this one, again it wont be one sided & will be a tight dogged affair, with st comgalls winning by minimum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 02, 2014, 09:49:50 AM
I think this saturday will tell the story of how the championship is to shape up!  Lets be honest, its all about if, and how Galls can dismantle Creggan!  Everyone will be in a much better place on Saturday night to really comment about how much longer 'the present' and 'the future' will last, never mind the final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 02, 2014, 07:00:03 PM
The present and the future deary me.................that gall's and creggan............you jesting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on October 02, 2014, 10:52:08 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on Sunday's games?

The intermediate final should be the best for years with 2 teams very evenly matched.

Portglenone will be slight favourites (any odds out yet?) , however heard they lost a few key men due to a recent challenge game. Brady's experience for moneyglass may prove crucial.

Would like to see st comgalls win the junior, would be a massive boost to the gaa community in the town.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 03, 2014, 01:11:52 PM
Paddy Power has PG1 favorites at 4/6. Maybe so before we lost three players in recent weeks that would all have definitely started - but its a 50/50 game now. One got a broken jawbone  in a challenge game. One pulled a hamstring and is doubtful and the third picked up a badly swollen ankle picked up at training. Hopefully we will still have enough but no one here is counting their chickens just yet. Moneyglass a tough team to beat at any time in this grade.

I cant see Creggan getting within three or four points of St Galls - despite a big recent push and expertise coaching.  While Creggan can make it difficult defensively, I just dont think they have enough up front to seriously trouble a very well drilled St Galls defence. In a few years Creggan will have great match winning scoring forwards that every team needs, if they can successfully bring through Conor and Kevin Small plus Liam Quinn - three real gooduns!

While I have a soft spot for St Comgalls (worked in Antrim town for many years) and would like to see them win, you have to credit St Malachys too for some good work they have done. A couple of years ago I came across them when I managed our reserves, and they were really trying hard to get their act together. Whoever wins the junior will be worthy winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 03, 2014, 06:24:09 PM
Casement's v M'glass will be intense and close in what is as close to a derby affair as you can get.............control of the middle may well prove crucial and although the Ports will most certainly miss Mark Mc Aleese in and around that zone they may just shade it.....1/2 points.
Creggan will stay with the Galls for a while as they are likely to adopt an ultra defensive mode.....as they did against Cargin last year........but this formation may well play into the hands of the MR side and a repeat of last year's final (at Creggan) looks probable.
St Comgall's will win the junior.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on October 03, 2014, 11:00:57 PM
How many players reared in other clubs will start the final for cargin bumpkin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2014, 10:09:04 AM
Seems those silly Cargin boys are missing something bloodybreak ball..............are clubs rearing players? Sure I had a look around the club at Toome this morning and such facilities for rearing players are not to be seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on October 04, 2014, 10:55:48 AM
Its just to know where we all stand before the final, as you say it would be handy for everybody else to know before we attempt to "walk in your company".
I really enjoyed last year in the final when you 's went to a two man full forward line for the last twenty minutes, a creggan man, a Randalstown man, trying to win the senior championship for cargin. That's fairly damning.
All that bleating about st. Galls having too many outsiders about ten years ago is a very very long time ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Just do not know exactly where u are coming from breakball................but i can guess from which club............sure if you are a realist (leaving aside ur obvious petty jealousy)..........wouldn't u just love to walk in our company.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on October 04, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
Mystic bumpkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Quagmire on October 04, 2014, 06:03:25 PM
Bumpkin Full Stop
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Post by: manballandall on October 04, 2014, 09:04:37 PM
Must be cargins to lose now after tonight's display
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 04, 2014, 09:04:37 PM
Must be cargins to lose now after tonight's display

big time. We were rubbish and Creggan shoulda won

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2014, 09:44:04 PM
Creggan really did put it up to the champs after they got the formation right. The Gall's did look out of sorts and this was underlined by the amount of times Sean Kelly gave the ball away. But Cargin's to lose.............I am sure they will believe that. ??? ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
Casements just done enough to beat a gallant Moneyglass.  Back to senior status again after a few years rebuilding. Gutsy win for St Malachys too in the junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
Well done BS.

Very odd score in the junior final. Not often you'd win a championship with just 2 points but there'll be no complaints I'm sure.

Creggan seemed to challenge St Galls though just came up short. Would be hoping Cargin can push them and make a game of it at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2014, 03:46:16 PM
Didnt make the Galls v Creggan match but  a few I spoke to said that Galls were far from impressive, and not their usual fluent selves. Im starting to see the final as one that could go either way.

Cargin are playing a different style too this year. Set up defensively too (a bit like Creggan) which St Galls seemed to struggle with....but with a bit more firepower up front than Creggan. Maybe St Galls slight favourites but Cargin will field a very strong team too so the final is far from a foregone conclusion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens abu on October 06, 2014, 04:20:16 PM
Well done Bannside,a few pints sunk in the club last night I'd say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 06, 2014, 04:53:25 PM
Well done to PG1. Hopefully they will have a run in Ulster.

Is there any word on where the senior final might be? I thought it would be in Aghoghill but have since heard that Hannastown could be a potential venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2014, 05:06:08 PM
Thanks Glens and ML. The club was mental alright and the pubs in the town are going well today too.  Great for guys like Owen Doc, Tony Convery,  Brian Mc Cann  and Martin Mc Carry who have soldiered on well into their thirties with very little medal ware to show for very distinguished careers. They lost a lot of finals along the way so it's great for them and they got a great reception last night in the club.

Some of our younger players can't stop winning medals it seems. Reserve league. Reserve c'ship. Div 2 league (hopefully) intermediate championship to go with under-21 championship last year. That's possibly 5 medals for some of them to collect at our dinner dance later this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2014, 05:14:17 PM
Wouldn't be right to talk about club stalwarts without giving a special mention to Kevin Brady. He was a real handful against us yesterday and reminded us once again of the superb player he was/is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 06, 2014, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 06, 2014, 04:53:25 PM
Well done to PG1. Hopefully they will have a run in Ulster.

Is there any word on where the senior final might be? I thought it would be in Aghoghill but have since heard that Hannastown could be a potential venue?

Lamh Dhearg for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
When Owen Doc, Martin McCarry, Brian McCann etc were underage they were winning all round them too BS.

I guess it should be a lesson to not take winning for granted as you never know when your next medal will be! (Though hopefully you guys will make the push in the seniors)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
Fair point ITG as part of Sean Stinsons they did win a minor championship or two, but lost lots of finals with PG1, including several intermediate and three senior finals and a couple of O Cahan cups.  For some of those guys it was seven final defeats on the trot before yesterday, so it was great to break that sequence.

The way I see it is that our progression is continuing and I expect Casements will be back in top three or four within a couple of years. Lots of work to be done yet and no one in division one will be nervous about playing us next year.

The venue for the final is very significant I think. Why would it not be at the "designated " temporary county ground Creggan or else Ahoghill? Or is a new precedent of year about (City/SW) going to begin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
final venue is most likely to be either ahoghill or creggan...................the county will go where they can expect a crowd and either of those venues will ensure a big attendance...............the word is that Cargin will be dealing from a full deck this time, no reported injuries...as for formation............well they have plotted a very different course to the final this term, in terms of training and in team formations, and would expect a change of tactics in the final.................but?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 06, 2014, 08:39:56 PM
Minor B hurling final,
Minor A hurling final,
Reserve hurling cup,
Junior hurling final,
Intermediate hurling Final,
Senior hurling final.
U-21 hurling final.


Minor B Football final
Reserve Shield  football Final
Reserve Cup football final
Junior football final
Intermediate football final

All the above finals have taken place at north antrim or South west venues so far. The only other all county final played already was the Minor A football final which took place at Lamh Dhearg. Would it be a sin if the Senior final was at a belfast venue bannside/bumpkin.

I wouldn't mind if all the Finals had to be held at the temp county grounds of Creegan or Ballycastle but these finals have also been held in Glenavy, Ahoghill, ballymena, Loughgiel. So there seems to be a mix of venues with the exception of any from south antrim board. If this were to develop like this over the next few years it wouldn't do much to develop clubs in south antrim. They are All County Competitions so why not have them all over they county while we have no where to call home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 06, 2014, 08:44:11 PM
Corrigan is what st galls have been told to date
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2014, 09:26:10 PM
Gizzy country teams have been going to belfast for years. Should be in the best ground - wherever that is - doesn't matter if country or city. Ahoghill better than those i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 06, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2014, 05:06:08 PM
Thanks Glens and ML. The club was mental alright and the pubs in the town are going well today too.  Great for guys like Owen Doc, Tony Convery,  Brian Mc Cann  and Martin Mc Carry who have soldiered on well into their thirties with very little medal ware to show for very distinguished careers. They lost a lot of finals along the way so it's great for them and they got a great reception last night in the club.

Some of our younger players can't stop winning medals it seems. Reserve league. Reserve c'ship. Div 2 league (hopefully) intermediate championship to go with under-21 championship last year. That's possibly 5 medals for some of them to collect at our dinner dance later this year.

not only that, bit if it wasnt for doc, yous could have struggled - made some difference when introduced at HT, done the simple things well and was influential during that purple patch

Congrats - good luck in the Ulster Club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 06, 2014, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 06, 2014, 09:26:10 PM
Gizzy country teams have been going to belfast for years. Should be in the best ground - wherever that is - doesn't matter if country or city. Ahoghill better than those i think.


Finals in belfast were in Casement.. Yes
As I said tommy I wouldn't mind if it were the designated county grounds but it's not.
If it be best ground they why change to so many and why all up the country.
Surely out of 9 or 10 senior finals this year at least 1 could be in city???
If not as they are not the best venue then what is the exact criteria for picking???

I know these rant all questions that can be answered here but it's just the frustrations that this county creates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
I hear that St Gall's are pushing the buttons seeking a Belfast venue for the football final....................are they wobbling a little ..............hear they have lost the services of McClean to add to the injury list, and rumor has it that another has walked away from the panel.............heard little talk on venues when they were playing all of their championship games in Casement...............fact is that the best available grounds (to include safe parking space) to host county finals are in the country, and until the resurrection of casement this will continue..............fact! ??? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 06, 2014, 10:59:47 PM
Congrats to casements & st malachys on their wins yesterday, both deserved it on the day. Good luck in ulster to both.
IFC final lived up to its billing and was a close encounter, once again goals win games.
Some great battles all over the pitch, ref let it flow which made for an exciting game & I think the big hits took their toll on Moneyglass as the game went on.

Apparently sfc final venue was decided tonight by county exec. Haven't heard where yet but I would put Ahoghill right up there. 1st class effort this year and last for finals. From playing surface to parking and facilities. Lamh dhearg would be the only venue in Belfast that could offer suitable parking for county final.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2014, 11:47:05 PM
Does it matter and will it effect the result? We have beaten Cargin in every final, i Dont think the final venue matters to either 15 players. Cargin are the in form team quality players all over the place. With a sense of belief they may get one up on us. Law of averages would say that. We are an aging team but one that knows how to dig deep when its needed. Should be a good final... If Cargin turn up ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 10:16:53 AM
Me thinks country bumpkin is spinning one!!!
Galls are fine, no walk outs, no injuries - in fact about 4/5 from the 2010 AI winning team chomping to get in...

If we are talking about the best venues then Ballycastle would get the shout (but thats not going to happen)

One year in country/one year in city!  Thats the way it should work depending on teams invoved! And by the looks of Casement we could be doing that for many many years to come!!! ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on October 07, 2014, 10:25:07 AM
Senior Final confirmed for Sunday 19th in Ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
spinning a couple indeed DM and i look forward to seeing a fully fit Anderw Mc Clean lining out at full back for the gall's v Magill and i am sure Anto Healey will return at wing half back to put the stoppers on Tomas Mc Cann................will Sean Burke rule the middle?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 07, 2014, 11:08:32 AM
Burkey out for the season unfortunately , massive loss.
But st galls will never fear playing cargin in a county final . It's always the other way round which always baffled me as I think on paper they have as good if not better players , most with county experience .
I fancied cargin last year and it was there for the taking and after Saturdays display I doubt this year will be any different .
My biggest critique of galls is that we don't kill games off and allow teams a glimmer of hope, has came back to haunt us in recent years in ulster but time will tell who turns up this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
You're barking up the wrong tree CB.  Of course Burkey will be out.
As for the other 2, think we may have to wait and see!  But these are certainly unfair on Cargin, who would have wanted to beat Galls full compliment.
I would say the advantage is with Cargin, especially now that its in Ahoghill again.

It beggars belief that we arrange fixture for same as Derry, given how many usually attend our county final.

I couldn't see the whole pitch last year, parking was a joke!  Glenavy, Lamhs parking 'spot on'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Just why do u think that the Ahoghill venue is advantageous for Cargin DM?.....................sure the last time Cargin did beat the Milltown men in championship was in Casement..............they have failed to repeat such in Creggan and Ahoghill in recent times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
Well its a tad closer for a start!  Would encourage more fair weather supporters to attend! And certainly a disadvantage for the same reasons for Galls (support may not be encouraged to travel).
Forgetting about the county finals for a minute - are we seriously saying Ahoghill is the premier ground in the county?
Creggan is a better venue!
Lamhs is a better venue!
Glenavy is a better venue!
Ballycastle, Dunloy are betters venues!!! Ok its a matter of opinion, but i cant see the logic in this venue at all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 12:21:09 PM
Presumably you're happy with the venue CB? Wont have far to travel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2014, 01:05:00 PM
Happy Bunny indeed DM......................five minutes down the road. ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2014, 01:11:11 PM
Think u are being a tad disrespectful to those gallant Gaels of Ahoghill DM..............they have a splendid ground with viewing easily accessible over a perfect sward....stewarding first class...............ample parking.............etc etc...............are u wobbling as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
'as well'???

Would never disrespect fellow gaels CB!  Ahoghill do a sterling job, and there ground is a fine facility. 

Its just not ideal, nor the best location or facility for a county final. IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Sure Toome would be available I hear DM. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
Yes, didn't mention Cargin for obvious reasons, but cracking venue!  Never anything outside of Cargin matches fixed there, wonder why that is...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
Think they do wonder at Cargin as well :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 07, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Sure if it was in Miltown, they still would nae be happy  ;D  No pleasing some clubs, wanting all their own way all the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 07, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 07, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Sure if it was in Miltown, they still would nae be happy  ;D  No pleasing some clubs, wanting all their own way all the time.

The main positive step here is that you got your full stop button fixed...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wingnut on October 08, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
'as well'???

Would never disrespect fellow gaels CB!  Ahoghill do a sterling job, and there ground is a fine facility. 

Its just not ideal, nor the best location or facility for a county final. IMO

Leaving aside your obvious dislike of ahoghill as a venue,which as your opinion is fair enough, some of the points you make are laughable and id say disrespectful too.
You couldnt see the pitch last year?? Why didnt you move somewhere where you could see the whole pitch. Theres plenty of vantage points around the grounds which allow this privilege and any of the stewards would have pointed you in the right direction.

The parking was a joke? In what way? On sunday past all cars were cleared from the pitch and field within 15mins of the full time whistle. For a crowd that size, thats not bad

What does the other venues you mentioned have over ahoghill that make them more of an ideal location and facility? Dont get me wrong, theyre all good venues which would have done a great job in hosting the match. I just dont understand why you have had such a dummy spit with ahoghill being chosen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 08, 2014, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: wingnut on October 08, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
'as well'???

Would never disrespect fellow gaels CB!  Ahoghill do a sterling job, and there ground is a fine facility. 

Its just not ideal, nor the best location or facility for a county final. IMO

Leaving aside your obvious dislike of ahoghill as a venue,which as your opinion is fair enough, some of the points you make are laughable and id say disrespectful too.
You couldnt see the pitch last year?? Why didnt you move somewhere where you could see the whole pitch. Theres plenty of vantage points around the grounds which allow this privilege and any of the stewards would have pointed you in the right direction.

The parking was a joke? In what way? On sunday past all cars were cleared from the pitch and field within 15mins of the full time whistle. For a crowd that size, thats not bad

What does the other venues you mentioned have over ahoghill that make them more of an ideal location and facility? Dont get me wrong, theyre all good venues which would have done a great job in hosting the match. I just dont understand why you have had such a dummy spit with ahoghill being chosen.
self praise, self praise, self praise and vested interest if you ask me  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2014, 02:23:01 PM
Self praise indeed................but do we all not practice such?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 09, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: wingnut on October 08, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
'as well'???

Would never disrespect fellow gaels CB!  Ahoghill do a sterling job, and there ground is a fine facility. 

Its just not ideal, nor the best location or facility for a county final. IMO

Leaving aside your obvious dislike of ahoghill as a venue,which as your opinion is fair enough, some of the points you make are laughable and id say disrespectful too.
You couldnt see the pitch last year?? Why didnt you move somewhere where you could see the whole pitch. Theres plenty of vantage points around the grounds which allow this privilege and any of the stewards would have pointed you in the right direction.

The parking was a joke? In what way? On sunday past all cars were cleared from the pitch and field within 15mins of the full time whistle. For a crowd that size, thats not bad

What does the other venues you mentioned have over ahoghill that make them more of an ideal location and facility? Dont get me wrong, theyre all good venues which would have done a great job in hosting the match. I just dont understand why you have had such a dummy spit with ahoghill being chosen.

Deary Deary Me...

There were no cars on pitches last year? they were parked all the way up the road, both sides! (if they have cars on pitch now, then a welcomed progress indeed).

I couldnt move from my location because the place was mobbed, completely around the pitch, hanging over the fences, standing on fences, hills, anywhere they could grab an angle!  No gael should have to pay in to grapple for a look!

I dont have any personal issue with Ahoghill, hence my post!  Interesting reaction from the other posters on your input though! Think they might have a point.

But hey, you arent the first gael to react as if you own the club!

How is it disrespectful, did i offend someone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2014, 01:37:36 PM
Dear DM, methinks u are wobbling a little............... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wingnut on October 09, 2014, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 09, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: wingnut on October 08, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 07, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
'as well'???

Would never disrespect fellow gaels CB!  Ahoghill do a sterling job, and there ground is a fine facility. 

Its just not ideal, nor the best location or facility for a county final. IMO

Leaving aside your obvious dislike of ahoghill as a venue,which as your opinion is fair enough, some of the points you make are laughable and id say disrespectful too.
You couldnt see the pitch last year?? Why didnt you move somewhere where you could see the whole pitch. Theres plenty of vantage points around the grounds which allow this privilege and any of the stewards would have pointed you in the right direction.

The parking was a joke? In what way? On sunday past all cars were cleared from the pitch and field within 15mins of the full time whistle. For a crowd that size, thats not bad

What does the other venues you mentioned have over ahoghill that make them more of an ideal location and facility? Dont get me wrong, theyre all good venues which would have done a great job in hosting the match. I just dont understand why you have had such a dummy spit with ahoghill being chosen.

Deary Deary Me...

There were no cars on pitches last year? they were parked all the way up the road, both sides! (if they have cars on pitch now, then a welcomed progress indeed).

I couldnt move from my location because the place was mobbed, completely around the pitch, hanging over the fences, standing on fences, hills, anywhere they could grab an angle!  No gael should have to pay in to grapple for a look!

I dont have any personal issue with Ahoghill, hence my post!  Interesting reaction from the other posters on your input though! Think they might have a point.

But hey, you arent the first gael to react as if you own the club!

How is it disrespectful, did i offend someone?

It wasnt the intention to sound like self-praise, i was merely offering a reply on behalf of the club to some of your negative comments, thats all.

I sincerely hope you dont have as a negative experience this year, that is if you decide to put yourself through that ordeal two years on the trot!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 09, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
Seriously WN?

Deary me...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2014, 06:00:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2014, 01:37:36 PM
Dear DM, methinks u are wobbling a little............... ;)

Nothing won on the board Cb. What price Cargin? Could make a few pound to help drown my sorrows
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wingnut on October 09, 2014, 06:28:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 09, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
Seriously WN?

Deary me...

Seriously what? You offered criticism of the venue based on your experience at one match 1 year ago and you questioned the ability of Ahoghill to host the final this year which is definitely disrespectful and offensive to the volunteers who have gave up their time previously to oversee these matches and Im talking first hand here. Since that match there have been changes in the way these big matches have been hosted and Im sure youll see the benefits of that at the final.

Im not acting like I own the club, I just have a lot of pride in it and couldn't let your comments pass without replying. If it came across as self-praise that wasn't the intention at all.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 09, 2014, 11:34:30 PM
I didn't question the ability of Ahoghill! Get it right!!!

Ok, I look forward to complimenting the CB decision to choose Ahoghill, after the final!

There's a first - volunteers in the gaa giving up their time!

And here, stop being a wing nut, calm down ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billabong on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
I heard St Enda's U16s getting a shout out on the 2FM breakfast show this morning for their upcoming final against Sean Stinsons  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on October 10, 2014, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: billabong on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
I heard St Enda's U16s getting a shout out on the 2FM breakfast show this morning for their upcoming final against Sean Stinsons  ;D

Heard that myself, was it South West league final or something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billabong on October 10, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
Yeah South West I think I heard as well-not sure league or championship though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
I don't think there really is a championship... At least there wasn't in my day...

Generally top two in league go to final up to minor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
Cargin are currently trading at 7/4 MR (fill ur boots).......................Ur boys are a massive 4/7............ ;)
Don't say i didn't tell ya.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 10, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
I will be having some of that . Cargins year this year ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 14, 2014, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
I don't think there really is a championship... At least there wasn't in my day...

Generally top two in league go to final up to minor.

We always had two Championships up to minor. U12, U14 and U16 the winners of South West would play winners of South in Antrim Championship, then for Minor it was a county-wide open draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2014, 01:03:46 PM
The difference being that at minor level there is an All County Minor League.

Before this, the SW used to have a SW minor league. Now that the league is all - county the SW invite the 4 best placed SW teams on league performance to play off in two semis and a final.

On Sunday Sean Stinsons played St Endas in that final. (St Endas are now affiliated to the SW leagues)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 14, 2014, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 10, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
I don't think there really is a championship... At least there wasn't in my day...

Generally top two in league go to final up to minor.

We always had two Championships up to minor. U12, U14 and U16 the winners of South West would play winners of South in Antrim Championship, then for Minor it was a county-wide open draw.

In the south west it was the winners of the league went through though as opposed to there being a championship.(minor was different) There seem to be play offs in the underage leagues now which I'm not sure there were previously. There definitely weren't shields. However I don't think we were ever near enough at the end of the season for me to know if there were league playoffs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2014, 10:13:59 AM
Big weekend ahead. Portglenone go into Ulster intermediate against Cavan champions Cootehill in the preliminary round of the Ulster intermediate. New territory so thats the big excitement round here. The big one for everyone else though will be the clash of the big two at Ahoghill. And its anyones game.

After St Galls despatched St Pauls with ease I predicted that St Galls were back to their imperious best. Now I am not so sure. Its back to Ahoghill where Cargin have played two matches so far - and thats worth a point or two. (The same way as I believed Casement was worth a few points start for St Galls.)

The availability of the excellent John Carron and Justin Crozier could tip the balance in Cargins favour. Neither played much so far and are now in the mix. While I remain a great admirer of what St Galls have done over the years, I have a feeling the men from Toome could finally get over the line this time round. Sometimes you have to lose one to win one - and thats exactly what they did last year.

Cargin have tweaked their style too since last year so I predict we will see a terrible game of low scoring football. Both teams pack defences and break from speed at the back, and there will be lots of slow build up play. Probably a 0-6 to 0-5 win for one of them. Dosent make the match any less intriguing though.

Surely no one could deny Cargin their moment. They have many players who have given a huge commitment to both club and county over the years and deserve a county winners medal in their careers. This time round I hope and believe they can. It would be great for South West Antrim who have been playing second fiddle for far too long.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2014, 10:13:59 AM
Big weekend ahead. Portglenone go into Ulster intermediate against Cavan champions Cootehill in the preliminary round of the Ulster intermediate. New territory so thats the big excitement round here. The big one for everyone else though will be the clash of the big two at Ahoghill. And its anyones game.

After St Galls despatched St Pauls with ease I predicted that St Galls were back to their imperious best. Now I am not so sure. Its back to Ahoghill where Cargin have played two matches so far - and thats worth a point or two. (The same way as I believed Casement was worth a few points start for St Galls.)

The availability of the excellent John Carron and Justin Crozier could tip the balance in Cargins favour. Neither played much so far and are now in the mix. While I remain a great admirer of what St Galls have done over the years, I have a feeling the men from Toome could finally get over the line this time round. Sometimes you have to lose one to win one - and thats exactly what they did last year.

Cargin have tweaked their style too since last year so I predict we will see a terrible game of low scoring football. Both teams pack defences and break from speed at the back, and there will be lots of slow build up play. Probably a 0-6 to 0-5 win for one of them. Dosent make the match any less intriguing though.

Surely no one could deny Cargin their moment. They have many players who have given a huge commitment to both club and county over the years and deserve a county winners medal in their careers. This time round I hope and believe they can. It would be great for South West Antrim who have been playing second fiddle for far too long.

Justin was available last year and had a mire in my view, the best team usually wins so I'll applaud either team at the end. Cargin have lost a lot, so it takes you to lose one before winning one doesn't come into it, the pressure of losing again and again can have a bigger impact I think.

If we play to our potential then this will go in our favour, if we allow Cargins negative tactics to get on top of us then it will be down to the free takers and the team who gives away the most frees!!

We have the experience to get through the tight games and not panic (well last year I nearly crapped me pants) when the chips are down. Sean Kelly is a leader who commands the biggest respect from all the players, when he steps up and drives forward things happen so I hope we can all follow he's leadership. I believe this is our final year but the drive to get 8 in a row is serious, as much as Cargin have been our rivals for a lot of years, beating the Johnnies record would be a bigger factor in our players heads I'd say.

Cargin have aged as well so some other team my take over after we step down for the challenge, who knows, some teams pretend to challenge but eventually fall away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2014, 11:41:42 AM
8 in a row would set a record that would most likely never be broken (unless you do it next year too lol).

St Galls the standard - no one disputing that MR2. A great footballing team without doubt. Justy dosent have too many mares and will be back fresh and hungry, so if anything thats another bonus in Cargins favour.

As you say good luck to whoever wins it. A lot of good footballers and good lads on both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 16, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2014, 10:13:59 AM
Big weekend ahead. Portglenone go into Ulster intermediate against Cavan champions Cootehill in the preliminary round of the Ulster intermediate. New territory so thats the big excitement round here. The big one for everyone else though will be the clash of the big two at Ahoghill. And its anyones game.

After St Galls despatched St Pauls with ease I predicted that St Galls were back to their imperious best. Now I am not so sure. Its back to Ahoghill where Cargin have played two matches so far - and thats worth a point or two. (The same way as I believed Casement was worth a few points start for St Galls.)

The availability of the excellent John Carron and Justin Crozier could tip the balance in Cargins favour. Neither played much so far and are now in the mix. While I remain a great admirer of what St Galls have done over the years, I have a feeling the men from Toome could finally get over the line this time round. Sometimes you have to lose one to win one - and thats exactly what they did last year.

Cargin have tweaked their style too since last year so I predict we will see a terrible game of low scoring football. Both teams pack defences and break from speed at the back, and there will be lots of slow build up play. Probably a 0-6 to 0-5 win for one of them. Dosent make the match any less intriguing though.

Surely no one could deny Cargin their moment. They have many players who have given a huge commitment to both club and county over the years and deserve a county winners medal in their careers. This time round I hope and believe they can. It would be great for South West Antrim who have been playing second fiddle for far too long.

Justin was available last year and had a mire in my view, the best team usually wins so I'll applaud either team at the end. Cargin have lost a lot, so it takes you to lose one before winning one doesn't come into it, the pressure of losing again and again can have a bigger impact I think.

If we play to our potential then this will go in our favour, if we allow Cargins negative tactics to get on top of us then it will be down to the free takers and the team who gives away the most frees!!

We have the experience to get through the tight games and not panic (well last year I nearly crapped me pants) when the chips are down. Sean Kelly is a leader who commands the biggest respect from all the players, when he steps up and drives forward things happen so I hope we can all follow he's leadership. I believe this is our final year but the drive to get 8 in a row is serious, as much as Cargin have been our rivals for a lot of years, beating the Johnnies record would be a bigger factor in our players heads I'd say.

Cargin have aged as well so some other team my take over after we step down for the challenge, who knows, some teams pretend to challenge but eventually fall away

Do we not hear this every year ? Cargin don't deserve anything, they have to earn it and win it.
But certainly they had a great chance last year and still didnt take it. What does that say about them?
is that a positive or a negative .
I don't think we are playing great and my personal opinion is that we need a few changes to be made from creggan game but personnel and game plan. However we needed that game after strolling past St. Paul's and we should have learnt more from the semi. If we have or not remains to be seen. Sunday will be decided by whoever takes their chances as both teams will have them. Burkey and mc clean massive losses and a few other possible injury worries so cargins to lose....again

On another note , a prominent member of cargins team let it slip that he booked the week off to celebrate not realising he was in the company of a st galls players wife. NGA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
Any predictions for the man of the match award? Suppose the only newspaper that will definitely give that title is the Antrim Post, so we may as well use that as the definitive answer. One answer only.

My guess is....Kobo the great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 16, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2014, 10:13:59 AM
Big weekend ahead. Portglenone go into Ulster intermediate against Cavan champions Cootehill in the preliminary round of the Ulster intermediate. New territory so thats the big excitement round here. The big one for everyone else though will be the clash of the big two at Ahoghill. And its anyones game.

After St Galls despatched St Pauls with ease I predicted that St Galls were back to their imperious best. Now I am not so sure. Its back to Ahoghill where Cargin have played two matches so far - and thats worth a point or two. (The same way as I believed Casement was worth a few points start for St Galls.)

The availability of the excellent John Carron and Justin Crozier could tip the balance in Cargins favour. Neither played much so far and are now in the mix. While I remain a great admirer of what St Galls have done over the years, I have a feeling the men from Toome could finally get over the line this time round. Sometimes you have to lose one to win one - and thats exactly what they did last year.

Cargin have tweaked their style too since last year so I predict we will see a terrible game of low scoring football. Both teams pack defences and break from speed at the back, and there will be lots of slow build up play. Probably a 0-6 to 0-5 win for one of them. Dosent make the match any less intriguing though.

Surely no one could deny Cargin their moment. They have many players who have given a huge commitment to both club and county over the years and deserve a county winners medal in their careers. This time round I hope and believe they can. It would be great for South West Antrim who have been playing second fiddle for far too long.

Justin was available last year and had a mire in my view, the best team usually wins so I'll applaud either team at the end. Cargin have lost a lot, so it takes you to lose one before winning one doesn't come into it, the pressure of losing again and again can have a bigger impact I think.

If we play to our potential then this will go in our favour, if we allow Cargins negative tactics to get on top of us then it will be down to the free takers and the team who gives away the most frees!!

We have the experience to get through the tight games and not panic (well last year I nearly crapped me pants) when the chips are down. Sean Kelly is a leader who commands the biggest respect from all the players, when he steps up and drives forward things happen so I hope we can all follow he's leadership. I believe this is our final year but the drive to get 8 in a row is serious, as much as Cargin have been our rivals for a lot of years, beating the Johnnies record would be a bigger factor in our players heads I'd say.

Cargin have aged as well so some other team my take over after we step down for the challenge, who knows, some teams pretend to challenge but eventually fall away

Do we not hear this every year ? Cargin don't deserve anything, they have to earn it and win it.
But certainly they had a great chance last year and still didnt take it. What does that say about them?
is that a positive or a negative .
I don't think we are playing great and my personal opinion is that we need a few changes to be made from creggan game but personnel and game plan. However we needed that game after strolling past St. Paul's and we should have learnt more from the semi. If we have or not remains to be seen. Sunday will be decided by whoever takes their chances as both teams will have them. Burkey and mc clean massive losses and a few other possible injury worries so cargins to lose....again

On another note , a prominent member of cargins team let it slip that he booked the week off to celebrate not realising he was in the company of a st galls players wife. NGA

Burkey didn't play last year either along with Kieran. 7/4 Cargin, 4/7 St Galls. Might go for the 8/1 draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 16, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
Any predictions for the man of the match award? Suppose the only newspaper that will definitely give that title is the Antrim Post, so we may as well use that as the definitive answer. One answer only.

My guess is....Kobo the great.

If Cargin are to win Kobo will have to have a great game so every chance he will obtain man of the match, however I would not use the Antrim Post as a barometer to measure anything against, whilst it is great to see them covering a wide range of Gaelic Games in Antrim I feel their coverage can be often contradictory and condescending and very rarely on them money but then again that is only my opinion and others may disagree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
Cargin have already resigned to their fate I hear and will employ negative tactics to ensure they are not beaten by far................and will allow Galls to stroll to 8 in a row...........................and wee Joe will be a great chairman.................... ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 16, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Cargin have to beat St Galls before the decline starts, otherwise it will be hollow. They have to fancy themselves for Sunday. Weather ain't looking to great either as the winds are picking up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 17, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
Key battles on Sunday???

If Galls forwards are allowed to play, and if the decide to play well, it could be curtains!

Cargin will have to focus alot of energy in their backline.

I think they have certainly enough up front to win this if Galls are anything but 100%.

Midfield will be very interesting depending who plays  ;), will Anto Healy come in, Veronica, other Kelly, dont forget McGreevey's young legs and energy were a factor last year in half back!  An awful lot to consider for Galls!  Kieran McGourty back in county final will be a plus also!

If Crozier is not 100% fit it could be a worry.  O'Boyle will command as always.

Galls forward selection is another problem - some boys could be benched for this one!

For Cargin its 'exactly what it says on the tin' - Galls have greater options, but is the hunger still there?

Cargin will be bouncing!

Interesting to see if the report on Tuesday is right, talking about st.galls having 'had' a great team!

Looking forward to it, see you all up there at 5pm according to paper! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
Think u may be getting thins a bit back to front deary me...............cargin have the greater fire power in my possibly biased opinion and the pressure may well be on what looked a suspect gall's rear guard................can ur defence cope with O'Boyle, magill, c close, tomas mc cann, etc..............the cargin defence with crozier certainly fully fit, m kane back, scullion, kobo and the impressive j Laverty raring to go will give ur forward dept a headache unless they can find radical improvement on creggan game...........as for mid field the mc cans are a match for anybody................if cargin do bring their A game is then ...........................well............u decide.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 04:52:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
Think u may be getting thins a bit back to front deary me...............cargin have the greater fire power in my possibly biased opinion and the pressure may well be on what looked a suspect gall's rear guard................can ur defence cope with O'Boyle, magill, c close, tomas mc cann, etc..............the cargin defence with crozier certainly fully fit, m kane back, scullion, kobo and the impressive j Laverty raring to go will give ur forward dept a headache unless they can find radical improvement on creggan game...........as for mid field the mc cans are a match for anybody................if cargin do bring their A game is then ...........................well............u decide.

What's different from Cargin this year from last year? We managed to do alright against them before and you know how these finals pan out by now CB ;) 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 05:20:54 PM
One quite subtle difference is on the appointment of the match official MR2................and on the endeavours of the sports psychologist who has been seen about Toome a few times recently :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
Too early for this kind of talk CB...

Too many years of disappointment - time to do talking on the pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
What did I say TG?...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
.if cargin do bring their A game is then ...........................well............u decide.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 05:20:54 PM
One quite subtle difference is on the appointment of the match official MR2................and on the endeavours of the sports psychologist who has been seen about Toome a few times recently :)

Is he a cargin referee? Surely not lol. Referees don't win games and neither do sports psychologist lol. Hypnotise the Cargin lads. Do me a fecking favour lol. No stone left unturned. Good luck anyway and I mean that. I love the underdog to win every so often
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 17, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 05:20:54 PM
One quite subtle difference is on the appointment of the match official MR2................and on the endeavours of the sports psychologist who has been seen about Toome a few times recently :)
Psychologists, more like Psychiatrists in Toome.  Maybe your dyslexia is playing you up??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
Stick to ur hurling my friend................no dyslexia plays for Cargin.. :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 17, 2014, 08:18:23 PM
Really surrounded at your arrogance country bumpkin. Where do you get it from?.
Very similar to the newspaper article on Tuesday from mc cann. Talking yourselves up based on what? A sports psychologist?. Maybe he/she will be the difference but until you walk the walk. I hope it's a good game and I am an admirer of cargins and surrounded they haven't delivered more but no right to be arrogant, cocky or indeed write st galls off. Good luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 09:53:17 PM
And please enlighten this uneducated bumpkin just where and when I dared to write off one of the best club sides to I have had the pleasure to watch? I may well be approaching senility but such nonsense has never been  penned or typed by me. U gotta lighten up MBandall........some things may not as they appear and a few words may well have been uttered/typed in jest ......(clue) wee Joe will make a great chairman!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 18, 2014, 10:55:28 AM
Tiresome ... That's all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 18, 2014, 10:55:28 AM
Tiresome ... That's all

I hope he doesn't go missing from the board around 5 on Sunday, I do enjoy the craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
here for the duration MR2...............win lose or draw. Sure u can always rely on us Cargin folk to be back for more..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
here for the duration MR2...............win lose or draw. Sure u can always rely on us Cargin folk to be back for more..........

Good man, of all the years this will be your best attempt to actually beat us in a final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 18, 2014, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
Think u may be getting thins a bit back to front deary me...............cargin have the greater fire power in my possibly biased opinion and the pressure may well be on what looked a suspect gall's rear guard................can ur defence cope with O'Boyle, magill, c close, tomas mc cann, etc..............the cargin defence with crozier certainly fully fit, m kane back, scullion, kobo and the impressive j Laverty raring to go will give ur forward dept a headache unless they can find radical improvement on creggan game...........as for mid field the mc cans are a match for anybody................if cargin do bring their A game is then ...........................well............u decide.

Right, ok then  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 18, 2014, 04:58:39 PM
Have the Psychiatrists ready for the Cargin boys around 5.00 pm, a few tissues at the ready also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 18, 2014, 04:58:39 PM
Have the Psychiatrists ready for the Cargin boys around 5.00 pm, a few tissues at the ready also.

I think they will do it this year (I hope not), we are struggling all over the place, 2 ex county players out and main players also, can only hope Cargin shit in the nest again. So I my put a few quid on them to at least make their win bearable 17/10 seems decent enough, PP don't know how bad we are :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2014, 07:41:07 PM
Aye u are quare craic MR2....................well i am about to impart to you the truth my friend............heard the cargin team and all hands are on deck................hope ur bet comes up.............I have a few £s on Casement's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 18, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
Good luck to Cargin and casements tomorrow (no offence to Galls, great champions that they are)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 18, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
Good luck to Cargin and casements tomorrow (no offence to Galls, great champions that they are)

Thanks, Its been a great journey in fairness, boys owe the club nothing and I wish Cargin well in the Ulster Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 18, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 18, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
Good luck to Cargin and casements tomorrow (no offence to Galls, great champions that they are)

Thanks, Its been a great journey in fairness, boys owe the club nothing and I wish Cargin well in the Ulster Championship

if anyone was unsure of who MR2 really is - there is no doubt now
Step forward Sir Alex - king of the mind games  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 18, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
Where is the county final being played tomorrow, might go to it?

Spotted a few st galls men today enjoying coffees and sandwiches in the streat in the Kennedy center, west Belfast today. Looked relaxed. Kevin mcgourty had the shorts and flip flops on  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2014, 10:25:29 PM
Bookies have St Galls and Cootehill warm favourites for both - and they are no fools. A SW double would pay around 6/1. Both 50/50 games in my book, you could perm any two from the four.

Casements are hoping to raise a few £K from a big breakfast in the Wild Duck in the morning, and then three Coaches are booked to leave from there for Breffni Park. Hope our players can do Antrim justice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 18, 2014, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 18, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
Where is the county final being played tomorrow, might go to it?

Spotted a few st galls men today enjoying coffees and sandwiches in the streat in the Kennedy center, west Belfast today. Looked relaxed. Kevin mcgourty had the shorts and flip flops on  8)

Irish Coffee for McGourty ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 18, 2014, 10:59:12 PM
Don't be surprised to see him make an appearance at some stage in 2nd half tomorro!

Maybe even flip flops and all ha ha

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 12:24:04 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 18, 2014, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 18, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
Where is the county final being played tomorrow, might go to it?

Spotted a few st galls men today enjoying coffees and sandwiches in the streat in the Kennedy center, west Belfast today. Looked relaxed. Kevin mcgourty had the shorts and flip flops on  8)

Irish Coffee for McGourty ?

Looked like a cappuccino with milk and sugar.
the other 2 guys had club sandwiches. One of them had a Robinsons orange cordial bottle filled only with water and no cordial  :( :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2014, 12:31:13 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 12:24:04 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 18, 2014, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 18, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
Where is the county final being played tomorrow, might go to it?

Spotted a few st galls men today enjoying coffees and sandwiches in the streat in the Kennedy center, west Belfast today. Looked relaxed. Kevin mcgourty had the shorts and flip flops on  8)

Irish Coffee for McGourty ?

Looked like a cappuccino with milk and sugar.
the other 2 guys had club sandwiches. One of them had a Robinsons orange cordial bottle filled only with water and no cordial  :( :o

Very observant. Normally you'd have 4/5 pints the day before the final, to calm the nerves ya know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 19, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
What a day for ahoghil . Forecast to be pudding down between 1 and 4. Great day for standing on a grass bank.
Am I right in saying that no antrim grounds have terracing that could facilitate a county final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2014, 09:05:17 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 19, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
What a day for ahoghil . Forecast to be pudding down between 1 and 4. Great day for standing on a grass bank.
Am I right in saying that no antrim grounds have terracing that could facilitate a county final?

The dub, everyone could be given headphones so the national anthem could be descret.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2014, 09:09:17 AM
In a year or two we might be able to ask Ulster Council nicely and borrow Casement for the finals day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
What about Windsor or even Ravenhill sure anywhere in Belfast will do!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2014, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 18, 2014, 10:59:12 PM
Don't be surprised to see him make an appearance at some stage in 2nd half tomorro!

Maybe even flip flops and all ha ha
Heavens forbid. 

Whats in the Daily News, whats in the daily news
I'll tel ya whats happening in the daily news
The basketball final in Ahoghill today, Noamh Gall will outwit Cargin
And go onto to win by two

Whats happening all over, I 'll tell ya whats happenin all over
Scullion riles CJ, flattens him, and they call for the stretcher over
On comes 'Flip Flop' on Comes Flip flop and Cargin put pay to the Wild Rover
Fianna Fail was the thing that licked him, and looks like Antrim's another victim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2014, 12:26:51 PM
Someone the drink a bit early!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 19, 2014, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?

You're welcome to aghagallon which is about 20 mins away. But st patricks Lisburn would be your local club and I'm sure they would be taking you in with open arms as they struggle for numbers at times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2014, 02:59:39 PM
Well here we all are in A-hog- Hill
Because we have nowhere else to go
Since the county got shafted by Ulster council
A-hog-hill will host he big show

Theres ones from Toome and Milltown
All scattered all over the place,
Theres neutrals, blow ins and descenters
And some wans from Derry, a disgrace

I'd a few scoops in Mc's (Gravediggers) before starting out
And another few tins in the car,
One of me mates has never been outside the weil west
He says "its a long way to ah hock kill by car"

Not it wont be that long til its over
There'll be little kicking and long range points for sure,
Cargin wont take defeat lightly
Noamh Gall contest Uladh once more

Boom, boom. ;D

Now on with the Show piece.  (I doubt it somehow)  Hi Packi, any more tins left?

1-8 to 0-7 no way back now for Cargin.

I would have been better at home watching Paisleys memorial, I hear Martin (the traitor) was there.

x 4, two more than I predicted, but rubbish football all round.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
U are right (for a change) hs........Cargin dirtied the nest again and I am sure this combination will not be winning championships again in the nesr future.......St Gall's reign will come to an end sooner rather than later...as to the successor to the crown......well ur guess is as good as mine......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
We won that game without doing anything. Cargin again shit in the nest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2014, 08:06:37 PM
U sure are right MR2...........with the exception of a few individuals (including the keeper), Cargin were woeful.............St Gall's as u say had little to do...........but the difference proved to be a wonderful CJ goal.................hope i am proved wrong (again)...........but i feel such as produced by the Milltown men at Ahogill to-day will fall far short of what will be required if they have aspirations on Ulster.....Clontibret will prove a huge challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Cootehill beat us by 5 points, proving that we still have a long way to go to be considered amongst the elite in Antrim.

Got a few reports from Ahoghill and by all accounts it was a dire game. Congratulations to St Galls who just simply have the knack of winning of to a fine art. They will enjoy this one as much if not more than any other. Reports of their demise are premature.

Bookies got it spot on again. Bad day for the SW!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Cootehill beat us by 5 points, proving that we still have a long way to go to be considered amongst the elite in Antrim.

Got a few reports from Ahoghill and by all accounts it was a dire game. Congratulations to St Galls who just simply have the knack of winning of to a fine art. They will enjoy this one as much if not more than any other. Reports of their demise are premature.

Bookies got it spot on again. Bad day for the SW!
Dire is putting it mildly and somewhat flattering. Crossmaglen or Ballinderry would beat the best of both of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 19, 2014, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 19, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Cootehill beat us by 5 points, proving that we still have a long way to go to be considered amongst the elite in Antrim.

Got a few reports from Ahoghill and by all accounts it was a dire game. Congratulations to St Galls who just simply have the knack of winning of to a fine art. They will enjoy this one as much if not more than any other. Reports of their demise are premature.

Bookies got it spot on again. Bad day for the SW!
Dire is putting it mildly and somewhat flattering. Crossmaglen or Ballinderry would beat the best of both of them.

Just as well Ballinderry are out then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2014, 09:32:07 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 19, 2014, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 19, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Cootehill beat us by 5 points, proving that we still have a long way to go to be considered amongst the elite in Antrim.

Got a few reports from Ahoghill and by all accounts it was a dire game. Congratulations to St Galls who just simply have the knack of winning of to a fine art. They will enjoy this one as much if not more than any other. Reports of their demise are premature.

Bookies got it spot on again. Bad day for the SW!
Dire is putting it mildly and somewhat flattering. Crossmaglen or Ballinderry would beat the best of both of them.

Just as well Ballinderry are out then.

Yep!! He he
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2014, 01:37:34 PM
Was there a decent gate at our senior final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
A decent crowd and no more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on October 20, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
Sure nobody has any clue how many were there or how much money was lifted.
No tickets or receipts at the gate as usual
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on October 20, 2014, 03:06:02 PM
Ok, so took a drive to the county final on Sunday, arrived a casual hour early!!!
Got a prime car space in the first field opposite! Good banter from officials of Ahoghill club ( well done, and thank you btw).

Nice cup of tea and a bitta banter with the lassies behind the counter!

Had the pick of the place, ' where will we stand?'

Half way line, on the bank/hill/slump whatever it is!

Couldn't hear the tannoy, muffled at best ( where I was - although wind played a part in that)

Pitch was in superb condition, great surface! Access to pitch for teams was less than ideal, but did suffice!

As the time approached, I glanced over my shoulder and looked up at the road, a tailback as far as the eye could see!

As the ball wAs thrown in , we jostled for position on the 'bank' to get the best view of the action, heads bobbing up and down like apples in a barrel!

Now WINGNUT this is absolutely no slight on Ahoghill - the banter I had with the welcoming Gaels was great, the tea magic!  But to host a county final with that sort of crowd is beyond the facilities on offer! A great club, a great venue - but not at that standard!

It probably should have been in Ballycastle - based on facilities all in!

What in heavens name are we gonna do in the future????

And btw CB, I expected a little more from you guys, or did I?

There's talk of this Galls team coming to an end, the truth is, when Kelly, MCGourty, GAllagher, STewart etc retire, it will probably happen! Until then we should all just suck it up!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
went to the final as well with my aul boy on Sunday. whilst ahoghill did a great job in putting the match on and the pitch was in great order its not great for viewing a game, esp if theirs a large crowd. the stewards did a great job in organising the parking and telling you what and where to park but viewing at the ground isn't great.

any county final should be at a venue that has a terrace and ample area for people to see. ballycastle is a good shout. maybe something the county should look at for next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wingnut on October 20, 2014, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 20, 2014, 03:06:02 PM
Ok, so took a drive to the county final on Sunday, arrived a casual hour early!!!
Got a prime car space in the first field opposite! Good banter from officials of Ahoghill club ( well done, and thank you btw).

Nice cup of tea and a bitta banter with the lassies behind the counter!

Had the pick of the place, ' where will we stand?'

Half way line, on the bank/hill/slump whatever it is!

Couldn't hear the tannoy, muffled at best ( where I was - although wind played a part in that)

Pitch was in superb condition, great surface! Access to pitch for teams was less than ideal, but did suffice!

As the time approached, I glanced over my shoulder and looked up at the road, a tailback as far as the eye could see!

As the ball wAs thrown in , we jostled for position on the 'bank' to get the best view of the action, heads bobbing up and down like apples in a barrel!

Now WINGNUT this is absolutely no slight on Ahoghill - the banter I had with the welcoming Gaels was great, the tea magic!  But to host a county final with that sort of crowd is beyond the facilities on offer! A great club, a great venue - but not at that standard!

It probably should have been in Ballycastle - based on facilities all in!

What in heavens name are we gonna do in the future????

And btw CB, I expected a little more from you guys, or did I?

There's talk of this Galls team coming to an end, the truth is, when Kelly, MCGourty, GAllagher, STewart etc retire, it will probably happen! Until then we should all just suck it up!

Yeah thats fair enough. You can only work with what you have. There was a bit of panic with the rain on thursday past that the fields might be too wet to use for parking so it wasnt as bad as it might have been.
Id say until they get the casement issue sorted its a conversation that will come up every year with the final likely to be down the country somewhere. Ballycastle a good venue too, maybe slightly out of the way though for the teams/supporters likely to be in it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 20, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
I agree with deary me and DR and Ballycastle has to be the best shout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
Ballycastle would definitely have the best package in terms of car parking, playing surface and viewing facilities. But apart from supporters of the teams involved, a sizeable portion of the gate is made up of neutrals. Not sure how many neutrals would travel to Ballycastle, especially seeing that many from the city won't travel out as far as Ahoghill , nor to Creggan when the county team is playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on October 21, 2014, 06:19:37 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2014, 09:05:17 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 19, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
What a day for ahoghil . Forecast to be pudding down between 1 and 4. Great day for standing on a grass bank.
Am I right in saying that no antrim grounds have terracing that could facilitate a county final?

The dub, everyone could be given headphones so the national anthem could be descret.

There was definitely a national anthem played at the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon finals this year on my telly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2014, 09:44:43 AM
Toome would be an ideal siting for the county football final 2015 methinks...............parking, viewing facilities, accessibility etc all available.................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 21, 2014, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2014, 09:44:43 AM
Toome would be an ideal siting for the county football final 2015 methinks...............parking, viewing facilities, accessibility etc all available.................

you aren't holding out much hope that you will be in it then !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 21, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
A lot of talk every year that St galls are an aging team?

On Sunday it looked like St Galls had more younger players than Cargin. Can someone post the ages of the Cargin line up? Have they any minor/u21 stars that are going to make the breakthrough to senior?

Going by Sunday, St Galls won't be touched for another 5 years!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: winghalfback on October 21, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on October 21, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
A lot of talk every year that St galls are an aging team?

On Sunday it looked like St Galls had more younger players than Cargin. Can someone post the ages of the Cargin line up? Have they any minor/u21 stars that are going to make the breakthrough to senior?

Going by Sunday, St Galls won't be touched for another 5 years!

CentreHalfBack finally found you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on October 21, 2014, 10:35:09 AM
Owenbeg or Newry for next year's finals. Go the whole hog.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
In the Cargin team Michael Magill, Gerard O' Boyle, Kieran Close and Tony Scullion are in and around the 30 mark,.....the rest of the team would be in their early/mid 20s............mileage a plenty left within the ranks...............but !!!!! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
What age is Mick McCann? He seems to have been about a good while now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2014, 12:15:45 PM
Yep Mick is getting on a bit...............he's a very aged 27.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on October 21, 2014, 12:38:50 PM
So where did cargin go wrong? Talking to a lot of players after the game and they said they weren't pushed, tested . Cargin all year played a sweeper system yet didnt against us , why? They even allowed us to play one . On top of that they left crozier on pollock for the whole game , pollock won every ball. Now I know Justin is only back from injury but jasus change him or even employ a sweeper to cut it out.
Cargin seemed intent on holding the ball on their own 45, waiting for the runner of the shoulder but they waited so long he was running into a crowd of galls players. I Boyle and magill should have  been hit with quick ball. Again may not have worked but at least try it. Tomas was anonymous after the first 15. Laverty impressed me most from cargin.
We could have won by a lot more considering the 3 goal chances we had . Watching the cargin boys stroll out at half time said a lot to me and the more the second half went on they looked line they had accepted defeat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2014, 12:52:08 PM
U read my mind MBandall, ure spot on...............HS u got that wrong I KNOW................He is 27...............28 next birthday...........won u-21 medal in 2008....................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2014, 01:13:44 PM
Mick is a 1985. Makes him 29.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2014, 02:26:55 PM
I have to take a bow HS.................Michael Cann is 28 and will soon be 29.................the under-21 medal was gained in 2006.........sure he must be finished at such an advanced age!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2014, 02:28:12 PM
No one said he was finished however he is definitely an experienced campaigner!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
Micko is an 84. Andy Mick Nibs Hands all 85's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on October 22, 2014, 03:19:15 AM
Miko won a hogan cup with St Pats in 2003, in his final year, so that should make him 30 in 2015
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on October 22, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/solicitor-on-sexual-assault-charge-faces-trial-30683463.html

Watch out Christmas Lights!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on October 22, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/solicitor-on-sexual-assault-charge-faces-trial-30683463.html

Watch out Christmas Lights!

Bringing shame to the area  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: billabong on October 22, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on October 22, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/solicitor-on-sexual-assault-charge-faces-trial-30683463.html

Watch out Christmas Lights!

Bringing shame to the area  >:(

What's that area like anyway Christmas Lights? Moving into the Magheralave Road area in a while, beside the St Patrick's pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: referee on October 22, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Mick is 31 next birthday,
Well in that case he was over age when he played in the '06 under-21 grade.................tell him to give the medal back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 22, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: billabong on October 22, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on October 22, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/solicitor-on-sexual-assault-charge-faces-trial-30683463.html

Watch out Christmas Lights!

Bringing shame to the area  >:(

What's that area like anyway Christmas Lights? Moving into the Magheralave Road area in a while, beside the St Patrick's pitch.


Nice enough area, though don't venture across the road into Ballymacash with your county geansaí
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 23, 2014, 08:33:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 22, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 22, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: referee on October 22, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Mick is 31 next birthday,
Well in that case he was over age when he played in the '06 under-21 grade.................tell him to give the medal back.
He can keep his medal, he was the right age. He is only 29. He will be 30 at sometime between 01/01/15 and 01/07/15.

After all this talk, I think we should all have a whip 'round to pay for his 30th birthday party .


I hope after all this debate someone has rang the guy and told him what age he is, the last 3 days must have been unbearable for him waiting for the verdict to come back. At least he can finally put his mind at rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 23, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
I'm sure Mick is reading this having a good laugh!

I wasn't asking about Mick, I eas enquiring more about the new crop coming through?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2014, 06:25:59 PM
Anyway means feck all on the face of it, really think he's been a great player both for Cargin and Antrim over the years. Always puts in a solid shift and very rarely complains.

Haven't really talked about the match (flat out on this fecking course!!) that much but a few things on it, we didn't really perform that well and bar a wonder goal by CJ we huffed and puffed the first half, Cargin had all the possession and got first 2 scores and at first I was a little bit worried but the goal really sickened (as it would most teams) Cargin, some heads dropped and I really believe that at that point Cargin lost the match. Some lads never stopped of course, Mick, lad with the beard ? and O'Boyle.

Biggest telling point for me is (as a manager) why did Crozier continue to pick up Pollock, who I thought was MOM, I don't think Mickey lost a ball that came his way and laid off most of the scores we got. Madness. In fairness our defence was solid even the young pups did a great job and I thought when Kevin came on he actually contributed very well ;), up front we had 2 glaring misses or great saves if you want to put a different view on it but only won by 4!

What do Cargin need to do to step up to the plate? They will be back next year as the other teams are that close, Creggan too negative and Ports not there yet? Belfast teams are miles behind unfortunately. Will their manager stay on?

On another note I thought the referee did an excellent job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2014, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2014, 06:25:59 PM
Anyway means feck all on the face of it, really think he's been a great player both for Cargin and Antrim over the years. Always puts in a solid shift and very rarely complains.

Haven't really talked about the match (flat out on this fecking course!!) that much but a few things on it, we didn't really perform that well and bar a wonder goal by CJ we huffed and puffed the first half, Cargin had all the possession and got first 2 scores and at first I was a little bit worried but the goal really sickened (as it would most teams) Cargin, some heads dropped and I really believe that at that point Cargin lost the match. Some lads never stopped of course, Mick, lad with the beard ? and O'Boyle.

Biggest telling point for me is (as a manager) why did Crozier continue to pick up Pollock, who I thought was MOM, I don't think Mickey lost a ball that came his way and laid off most of the scores we got. Madness. In fairness our defence was solid even the young pups did a great job and I thought when Kevin came on he actually contributed very well ;), up front we had 2 glaring misses or great saves if you want to put a different view on it but only won by 4!

What do Cargin need to do to step up to the plate? They will be back next year as the other teams are that close, Creggan too negative and Ports not there yet? Belfast teams are miles behind unfortunately. Will their manager stay on?

On another note I thought the referee did an excellent job
U got it right MR2.....We under performed again in a final as in the majority of players but perhaps most importantly in management.........of course J Crozier (who was quite obviously not match fit) should not have been assigned to mark MP.........and when it was patently obvious that he wasn't coping with that task change was required and Kobo, T Scullion or the 'bearded one' Marty Kane should have been reassigned to that position.
Cargin had the bit really between the teeth in the opening few minutes and indeed should have had a goal and a few more points before Gall's had a score......J Carron lost the ball at the 20 metre line after a good approach, and after Closey slipped when in, James Laverty blasted wide from close range.
Was CJ really going for goal?
Cargin also made a serious error in assigning T S and Kobo in 'man marking' roles...................thus we lacked those trademark bursts forward...........
Gall's did have a far more 'professional approach and yes K Mc G did contribute, and the ref was excellent............but Cargin were again the chief architects of their own demise.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2014, 09:08:51 AM
cargin got the ball forward and won it well in midfield in the first half but were too slow in taking the score on. it allowed the st galls team time to get back and swamp them completely. the first 10 mins I fancied cargin to win it the way they were playing but all of a sudden they stopped playing that quicker ball in and slowed it down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on October 24, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Galls were always in control.

I was down that end - CJ was definitely going for goal, he got the ball popped through to him, and and stepped out to take a score, but upon stepping out he realised that somehow there still wasn't a Cargin man near him, so he looked up and took the goal.

Crozier shouldn't have been on Pollock. Some young flyer should have been on him, or someone who'd have come through him a few times. He was miles off, which is no good on Pollock, as he has no interest in taking you on.

Its not where the game was lost though - by and large Cargin competed well, probably shaded the middle for the first 40 minutes, but the attacking play was incredibly laboured, and the full forward line not good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2014, 10:24:49 AM
yeah have to agree there with you. they dominated the ball well in the middle during the game but st galls took their scores when they had the chances. Whenever cargin scored St Galls went up the pitch and popped one back over to wipe it out.

they are still a good team no matter what anyone says. Cargin could do with talking to Lgiel about the mental struggle of losing so many finals and coming back from it to become 4 in a row champions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
Cargin were set up all year to play St Galls at their own game. In the earlier rounds they were dropping men back behind the ball and playing a three man forward line. This was to facilitate their running game, which relied on a slow build up and then a man coming flying off the shoulder at pace. This new style was probably designed with Tomas in mind, and the others making the breaks were Tony Scullion and Kobo. Against other teams this was working well, but against St Galls these men would have more defensive duties than against the other teams, and on the back foot 50% of the time, their ability to break forward at pace was limited. For that reason I had a good idea the final would be an unattractive for the neutral, with lots of stop start slow build up play.

In reflection it was always going to be dangerous trying to outplay St Galls at their own game, a style they have mastered over recent years.

In the two or three Cargin matches I did see the one thing I noticed was that they were not getting anything near enough out of their forward line - because they werent being used as scoring forwards. If I was on their line I would have considered putting John Carron into full forward, or even Gerard Mc Cann who along with Magill in there would have caused serious damage under a few high balls. The basketball style gameplan Cargin adopted was always going to be risky against St Galls, but with such a potential height advantage I think Cargin would have benefitted from a longer direct ball in around the edge of the square. Would have created a goal chance or two and allowed for a better spectacle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 24, 2014, 01:22:23 PM
Cargin will be back again next year, I have no doubt about that.................and on the championship trail again with a whisper about that they will be gaining a new high profile player in 2015............. in the meantime they still have the league to win to complete another 'disappointing season' ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2014, 01:45:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2014, 01:22:23 PM
Cargin will be back again next year, I have no doubt about that.................and on the championship trail again with a whisper about that they will be gaining a new high profile player in 2015............. in the meantime they still have the league to win to complete another 'disappointing season' ??

:o is this in the January transfer window?

if we gain a new player in dunloy its from our minors, the way it should be.

cargin getting to the final again next year isn't good enough, they need to be going that bit further. whatever they are doing at the moment isn't working, it needs to change or st galls will be 9 in a row at this rate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2014, 12:26:10 PM
Under - 21 competition starts again today. 24 teams have entered, although we were told last night that Sarsfields are not travelling to play us, so we get a bye. The winners of todays matches go into the A section, and the losers go into the B grade competition.

We rode our luck last year coming from well behind in all our games to snatch a rare title, and thoroughly enjoyed the mantle of county champions. We should be strong enough again, but lots of clubs will have an eye on this competition this year, so it should be interesting.

On the basis that Frank Fitzsimons played 7 Lamh Dhearg players on this year groups county minor team of 2011 (we beat Donegal that year too) he will have to shoulder the responsibility of favouritism in my book. St Johns could vie with them for that position on the grounds of their multiple county minor leagues and championships in recent years.

As we have no game today, I plan to nip over to Creggan and see if they can put it up to the Johnnies.

Let the fun begin......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
After what I watched today St Johns will be the team to beat in this years u-21 championship. Strong and powerful in all the right positiions. they have a winning pedigree, and formula all over the pitch.  Paddy Hannigans team have obviously kicked on since their minor days and the same fluency is prevalent throughout as seen in their build up play, support play and total unselfishness.

From a county perspective, there are more than a few who could kick on, Matt Fitzpatrick being an outstanding prospect - as good as anything I have seen at that age for quite a while. Michael Johnstons two boys, sometimes better known as hurlers, are both outstanding and just personally I liked Jack Hannigan, and substitute Donal Carson too. And in Patrick Mc Bride they have one of the best in Ulster.

Without doubt the team to beat in this age group. The team that beats St Johns in this age group will be one helluva team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 25, 2014, 09:42:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 25, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
After what I watched today St Johns will be the team to beat in this years u-21 championship. Strong and powerful in all the right positiions. they have a winning pedigree, and formula all over the pitch.  Paddy Hannigans team have obviously kicked on since their minor days and the same fluency is prevalent throughout as seen in their build up play, support play and total unselfishness.

From a county perspective, there are more than a few who could kick on, Matt Fitzpatrick being an outstanding prospect - as good as anything I have seen at that age for quite a while. Michael Johnstons two boys, sometimes better known as hurlers, are both outstanding and just personally I liked Jack Hannigan, and substitute Donal Carson too. And in Patrick Mc Bride they have one of the best in Ulster.

Without doubt the team to beat in this age group. The team that beats St Johns in this age group will be one helluva team.
Would they turn up for the final if they get there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
Thats way over my head Two hands. Would they? Would they not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 25, 2014, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 25, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
After what I watched today St Johns will be the team to beat in this years u-21 championship. Strong and powerful in all the right positiions. they have a winning pedigree, and formula all over the pitch.  Paddy Hannigans team have obviously kicked on since their minor days and the same fluency is prevalent throughout as seen in their build up play, support play and total unselfishness.

From a county perspective, there are more than a few who could kick on, Matt Fitzpatrick being an outstanding prospect - as good as anything I have seen at that age for quite a while. Michael Johnstons two boys, sometimes better known as hurlers, are both outstanding and just personally I liked Jack Hannigan, and substitute Donal Carson too. And in Patrick Mc Bride they have one of the best in Ulster.

Without doubt the team to beat in this age group. The team that beats St Johns in this age group will be one helluva team.

i watched some of the players you mentioned during st johns defeat to the Tessies in senior championship this year and many of the jonnies team that night didnt count. Were outplayed, outfought and out thought by what looked like a better team. I just think some of the descriptions you have stated from the county perspective may be a bit premature. It is still a big step to senior before you even think of inter county. Not disagreeing but just trying to give a bit of perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
 Maybe St Johns underestimated St Teresas ( coming ftom div 2). Peter Mc Keever shouldnt have though.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 25, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 25, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
Thats way over my head Two hands. Would they? Would they not?
They didn't field in the U21 Hurling Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 26, 2014, 05:22:50 PM
Looks like St Paul's are on the way to div 2 next year unless Rossa  fall flat on their faces..........Rasharkin are already relegated........ Moneyglass look to have slipped up losing to Glenavy and St Teresa's may well join Portglenone in Division One next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 09:04:33 AM
watched our U21 match on sat v moneyglass. won 3-14 to 1-06. should of been more at the end up but a good win for them.

its a pity we didn't have a minor team as there is some good footballers in that bunch. most, if not all, have played senior all this year so they have got plenty of football.

we play st endas now, what are they like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 27, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
St Endas have some talented footballers but wont have near enough if they are pitted against either of the big two of St Johns and Lamh Dhearg this year. Maybe more of a realistic possibility next year or the year after that, if their Paul Mc Girr winning panel sticks together - but thats the big question? Dunloy probably in the same boat DR - you also have a good batch but they are very young too and probably more than a few dual players amongst them who will eventually put hurling first.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
to be fair there was only 5 hurlers in that team on Saturday. Karl OKane, Oran Corrigan, Nicky McKeague, Ryan Elliott and Ally Dooey. Nicky would be the only starter amongst that lot. the rest are all footballers and play it alone.

its actually good to see us with a half decent looking team. last year we ran cargan close and only for ill discipline we could of beat them. we should have a minor team next year in the league which can only be a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 27, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 27, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
St Endas have some talented footballers but wont have near enough if they are pitted against either of the big two of St Johns and Lamh Dhearg this year. Maybe more of a realistic possibility next year or the year after that, if their Paul Mc Girr winning panel sticks together - but thats the big question? Dunloy probably in the same boat DR - you also have a good batch but they are very young too and probably more than a few dual players amongst them who will eventually put hurling first.
ur having us on Bannside.......would suggest the Ports as one of the leading players in under-21 competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 28, 2014, 02:49:49 PM
We have a decent enough bunch CB but no work at all done with them yet due to senior team still going up to now. This time last year we had 10 sessions over us and a few matches under their belt. Sarsfields  conceded on Saturday too, so no game their either. So we have much less work done than would be ideal. But if we get past Rossa (that's not guaranteed) we might get some kind of run going. Still not in the top two in most peoples betting lists.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 29, 2014, 12:02:38 PM
Interesting reading on another Antrim gaa forum, pretty standard this time of year i suppose about league structures etc, was going to post on it but not a member of that forum and couldnt be bothered joining it lol. Anyway, anyone any ideas on what could be done to sort out our leagues/ championships or does everyone thing they're best left alone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 29, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
Just heard that St Paul's are to host the Antrim v Carlow in the opening round of the N F League.............well little Joe will be there........bet he gets a parking berth, and a good spot to watch................those will not be plentiful ???.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 29, 2014, 07:39:28 PM
Last year St Paul's ground didnt meet health and safety regulations to facilitate championship games. Now it's holding a county fixture lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blueblood on October 30, 2014, 12:02:42 PM
The wee man getting ready for his new role. LMAO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2014, 03:32:38 PM
These Bredagh men have a lot to say on Antrim issuse, except my mate Lecale of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 30, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
 :quote author=Milltown Row2 link=topic=21.msg1414530#msg1414530 date=1414683158]
These Bredagh men have a lot to say on Antrim issuse, except my mate Lecale of course
[/quote] MIlltown, a Blueblood from Bredagh, Co. Down, me thinks you should look a little closer to home.  ;)  I would suggest a hybrid Milltown blueblood, a bit of a mongrel as they say. Ego tripper & attention seeker, good qualities of a referee which he alleges to be taking up?  Heaven help us, but we are all not that gullible. Maroon & White from Blue & White evolving from Green & Black (x2). Moves around to where he may gain personal advantage. I could think of a few individuals in Milltown who would mirror such a profile. The spineless and disloyal traits of opportunists.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2014, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 30, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
:quote author=Milltown Row2 link=topic=21.msg1414530#msg1414530 date=1414683158]
These Bredagh men have a lot to say on Antrim issuse, except my mate Lecale of course
MIlltown, a Blueblood from Bredagh, Co. Down, me thinks you should look a little closer to home.  ;)  I would suggest a hybrid Milltown blueblood, a bit of a mongrel as they say. Ego tripper & attention seeker, good qualities of a referee which he alleges to be taking up?  Heaven help us, but we are all not that gullible. Maroon & White from Blue & White evolving from Green & Black (x2). Moves around to where he may gain personal advantage. I could think of a few individuals in Milltown who would mirror such a profile. The spineless and disloyal traits of opportunists.
[/quote]

Are you his bitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2014, 11:13:07 PM
Well if the little guy ever bocomes An Cathaoirleach I will cross the rubicon (the bann) and pledge allegiance to the Oak Leaf mob, and believe me that really would be a 'giant leap'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2014, 11:49:33 PM
Sure Cargin tried that once their ban came in  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on October 31, 2014, 02:07:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2014, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 30, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
:quote author=Milltown Row2 link=topic=21.msg1414530#msg1414530 date=1414683158]
These Bredagh men have a lot to say on Antrim issuse, except my mate Lecale of course
MIlltown, a Blueblood from Bredagh, Co. Down, me thinks you should look a little closer to home.  ;)  I would suggest a hybrid Milltown blueblood, a bit of a mongrel as they say. Ego tripper & attention seeker, good qualities of a referee which he alleges to be taking up?  Heaven help us, but we are all not that gullible. Maroon & White from Blue & White evolving from Green & Black (x2). Moves around to where he may gain personal advantage. I could think of a few individuals in Milltown who would mirror such a profile. The spineless and disloyal traits of opportunists.

Are you his bitch?
[/quote] Nope, I cant say I know his woman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 31, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
Just heard that St Paul's are to host the Antrim v Carlow in the opening round of the N F League.............well little Joe will be there........bet he gets a parking berth, and a good spot to watch................those will not be plentiful ???.

are you serious? st pauls grounds aren't up top scratch for a club match let alone a county game.

the games should be somewhere that has good parking, toilets, viewing, good changing facilities etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on October 31, 2014, 05:44:49 PM
Sure Cargin tried that once their ban came in  ;)


MEGALOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2014, 05:53:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 31, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
Just heard that St Paul's are to host the Antrim v Carlow in the opening round of the N F League.............well little Joe will be there........bet he gets a parking berth, and a good spot to watch................those will not be plentiful ???.

are you serious? st pauls grounds aren't up top scratch for a club match let alone a county game.

the games should be somewhere that has good parking, toilets, viewing, good changing facilities etc.
You are right of course DR, but the St Pauls club has the wee man who would be county chairman (god help us all) as a member, and what he says goes. Hitler never made it to Belfast but.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2014, 09:16:43 PM
Messy time of the year. Teams with nil to play for have downed tools long ago. Our seniors have a match tomorrow and about 20 of them have just jumped on a bus in Portglenone to go to a disco in Omagh -  all in fancy dress. Won't be much football played tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
Amateur sport!! Frustrating as a former player and manager but it happens
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2014, 09:43:21 PM
Bannside-I take it Portglenone are confident that they don't need any thing out of their game tomorrow-doesn't make any sense that the players couldn't go and party next weekend when the league was finished. I thought Portglenone needed a point from their last game to secure the league after the outcome of matches and meetings in the week past?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
In all seriousness though the job of fixtures secretary must be the hardest job of all. How many would fancy it? Portglenone don't need anything out if tomorrow's game to go up as winners. Even if we lose we are level with the second team (StTeresas) but we have a superior head to head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
If that thecase congratulations-it has been a good year for yourselves-will you have the samesetupas this year in div 1-are the management going for another year?- wouldbe good for yourselves if it does for abit of continuity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2014, 10:28:00 PM
Not sure if James Mc Grath is staying on for another year or not. There is a lot going on at his own club ( Slaughtneil) too and he has a couple of sons who are very decent prospects, so it's hard to know. He is well thought of round here, but division one and senior championship a totally different animal. Whilst we did well this year we didn't have too much to spare in the finish up. Having said that I would say if you take Cargin and St Galls out of it, there wouldnt be too much in it between the other eight division one teams and the top four in division two. We think we have enough to be competitive in division one but a top six finish probably our target. Still in development mode.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
I suppose time will tell - good luck to yourselves next year - if he is not back next year as manager there maybe an opening for your successful u21 management or maybe you see an opening for somebody else from with in the club. Will be away back on my work travels on Tuesday and not back to Christmas - keep me informed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 02, 2014, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2014, 09:46:22 PM
In all seriousness though the job of fixtures secretary must be the hardest job of all. How many would fancy it? Portglenone don't need anything out if tomorrow's game to go up as winners. Even if we lose we are level with the second team (StTeresas) but we have a superior head to head.
Just who is fixtures secretary Bannside? Do not think we have one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Poor from Galls today after going 0-6 to 0-0 up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Poor from Galls today after going 0-6 to 0-0 up

Rotten, still 8 in a row isn't a bad craic at all, when you go a man down it's hard to get it back. These lads have won the ultimate title, owe the club nothing and still manage to win the county title every year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Poor from Galls today after going 0-6 to 0-0 up

Rotten, still 8 in a row isn't a bad craic at all, when you go a man down it's hard to get it back. These lads have won the ultimate title, owe the club nothing and still manage to win the county title every year

Doubt all the players today won All Ireland in 2010
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:54:20 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Poor from Galls today after going 0-6 to 0-0 up

Rotten, still 8 in a row isn't a bad craic at all, when you go a man down it's hard to get it back. These lads have won the ultimate title, owe the club nothing and still manage to win the county title every year

Doubt all the players today won All Ireland in 2010

Like I said great bunch of lads. Owe club nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on November 02, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Lack of scoring power seems to have held St Galls back last few years in Ulster. 0-6 after 10 minutes today looked like that was going to change but only ended up with 0-9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on November 02, 2014, 06:54:02 PM
What today's result shows is that the Ulster championship is a crap shoot. You have to have talent and then a lot of small things to go your way.

One man down, enought to derail St Gall's, who must be pissed right now after seeing the Cross result, with Ballinderry already out.

With those two teams  out, St Gall's would have been the most experienced team left.

Still, I would love the mighty Kickhams to have a small fracton of the sucess that the Galls lads have had in the past 10 or so years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 02, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:54:20 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Poor from Galls today after going 0-6 to 0-0 up

Rotten, still 8 in a row isn't a bad craic at all, when you go a man down it's hard to get it back. These lads have won the ultimate title, owe the club nothing and still manage to win the county title every year

Doubt all the players today won All Ireland in 2010

Like I said great bunch of lads. Owe club nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 02, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Lack of scoring power seems to have held St Galls back last few years in Ulster. 0-6 after 10 minutes today looked like that was going to change but only ended up with 0-9

That's the way it goes in Ulster. some you win some you don't, as long as we keep getting a chance then brilliant. Been a fantastic journey that's for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2014, 07:38:39 PM
Bad day for Antrim in general. All our county championship clubs out first pop. On top of that the Dall get a hammering. Ulster is hard make no mistake about that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 02, 2014, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2014, 09:16:43 PM
Messy time of the year. Teams with nil to play for have downed tools long ago. Our seniors have a match tomorrow and about 20 of them have just jumped on a bus in Portglenone to go to a disco in Omagh -  all in fancy dress. Won't be much football played tomorrow!!

Sunday 2nd November 2014
Division 2 Football

2 00 PM   Naomh Seosamh/St Joseph's   1-6   7-6   Roger Casements Portglenone

Did the Glenavy lads go with them !!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 02, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
Congratulations Bannside on your clubs good win today away to Glenavy. The players must have looked after themselves last night .Puts everything to bed - senior and senior reserve championship winners and senior and senior reserve league winners plus the U21 championship win and now in the process of defending it. No bad season by any standards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
I wish One Club!  In place of senior c'ship insert intermediate. And in place of senior league insert division two league. But thanks for your kind sentiments. Focus now fully on under twenty ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 08:57:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
I wish One Club!  In place of senior c'ship insert intermediate. And in place of senior league insert division two league. But thanks for your kind sentiments. Focus now fully on under twenty ones.


Without making this like a Portglenone appreciation thread, Fair play to the Ports this season. Fantastic achievememt from a super club. Many clubs would be jealous!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 02, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
I wish One Club!  In place of senior c'ship insert intermediate. And in place of senior league insert division two league. But thanks for your kind sentiments. Focus now fully on under twenty ones.


Mea Culpa Bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 02, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 02, 2014, 09:16:08 PM
So we've finished 4th in the league this year!! Excellent stuff.

That said, what an odd league table it ended up.


watched a lot of Rossa's matches this year and they deserved 3rd or 4th as their league position at beginning of week was a false one with lack of fixs played due to hurling.

that said, if ever a table showed the true reflection and gulf in class between the top two and the rest, then its this one. Galls n Cargin streets ahead. Creggan still the pretenders and the rest seperated by three points all waiting for the day the top two collapse and die off so they can have a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 02, 2014, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 02, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Lack of scoring power seems to have held St Galls back last few years in Ulster. 0-6 after 10 minutes today looked like that was going to change but only ended up with 0-9

That's the way it goes in Ulster. some you win some you don't, as long as we keep getting a chance then brilliant. Been a fantastic journey that's for sure.

i like most of your posts and you tend to be fair if not a bit sarcy somtimes. But when it comes to St Galls footballers getting beat you tend to get very defensive n talk about past wins as though its ok to lose from now on as the ultimate goal was achieved before. Im only bringing this up as you tend to give a good insight into games including galls hurlers and footballers when they win but when they get beat you go on defensive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 10:42:59 PM
Beat by a team in their own back yard. We were down a man in first half...... I cant dwell too much on it really. Sack cloth ashes?

Up by six to nil but hey the better team always wins. Season over like all clubs we get ready for next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 02, 2014, 10:59:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 10:42:59 PM
Beat by a team in their own back yard. We were down a man in first half...... I cant dwell too much on it really. Sack cloth ashes?

Up by six to nil but hey the better team always wins. Season over like all clubs we get ready for next year.
Yep that's the spirit MR2, 'getting over it and on with it' sure that could be the motto down here in Toome..........like Mister Twain said, "The reports of my/our death have been greatly exaggerated" over the years.............Hands up those who would have suggested that Cargin were finished after yet another poor showing in a county final..........you have been proved wrong in such assumptions many times over the years and you may well be proved wrong again, and again, and again......Cargin are walking at present, possibly in awe, and a little way behind the Milltown men, but we are not finished yet..............2015 is already in focus.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 02, 2014, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 10:42:59 PM
Beat by a team in their own back yard. We were down a man in first half...... I cant dwell too much on it really. Sack cloth ashes?

Up by six to nil but hey the better team always wins. Season over like all clubs we get ready for next year.

but your season next year realistically starts exactly 365 days from now ! It must be hard for the players to focus, and after one game it's over again  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 11:42:36 PM
Usually starts first week in January like most clubs! Nothing taken for granted anymore. How'd your club go this year? Well you'd get back on top again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2014, 08:49:55 AM
"How'd your club go this year" is  great question to put to Hoof MR2. This should be good, lol!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 03, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
What odds Gort na Mona and St. Teresa's playing for a draw this week? Draw suits both teams if teams that finish level on points are decided by the head to head scenario as stated in the rule book. in the two games between Gorts and Aghagallon this year the results were A 2-15 Gorts 2-9 and Gorts 2-16 A 2-9. Therefore 1 win each but Gorts have a better scoring difference of +1. in the games between Moneyglass and St. Teresa's again its one win each but St. Teresa's won their game 1-19 to 0-13 whereas Moneyglass only won theirs 0-14 to 0-13. Could we see both teams kick the ball back and forth to one another for 60 mins maybe even a 0-0 TO 0-0 draw. I wouldn't like to be a Moneyglass or Aghagallon player waiting on that result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2014, 11:13:03 AM
How did Moneyglass get themselves into this position beats me. They were six points up against Glenavy at half time, playing at home, and managed to lose. Apparently the Glenavy manager resigned at half time too in bizarre circumstances. Whatever then happened Glenavy changed their style of play and came back to win the game. Its all in a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2014, 01:41:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 03, 2014, 08:49:55 AM
"How'd your club go this year" is  great question to put to Hoof MR2. This should be good, lol!

might wait until tonight to answer that, not enough time on my hands now !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 05, 2014, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 03, 2014, 11:13:03 AM
How did Moneyglass get themselves into this position beats me. They were six points up against Glenavy at half time, playing at home, and managed to lose. Apparently the Glenavy manager resigned at half time too in bizarre circumstances. Whatever then happened Glenavy changed their style of play and came back to win the game. Its all in a game.

Was told by a mglass man they didn't want to go up as they felt a year of heavy defeats in div 1 would do them no good.

Didn't portglenone do something similar last year or the year before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 05, 2014, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Yip. They finished above us in Div 2 but decided they didn't want to go up so we took their place. We haven't looked back!!

The North Antrim mafia wouldn't have stood for that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 06, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: The Worker on November 05, 2014, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 03, 2014, 11:13:03 AM
How did Moneyglass get themselves into this position beats me. They were six points up against Glenavy at half time, playing at home, and managed to lose. Apparently the Glenavy manager resigned at half time too in bizarre circumstances. Whatever then happened Glenavy changed their style of play and came back to win the game. Its all in a game.

Was told by a mglass man they didn't want to go up as they felt a year of heavy defeats in div 1 would do them no good.

Didn't portglenone do something similar last year or the year before?

Not the case at all Moneyglass wanted to go up but unfortunately made a balls of it on the last day, if Gort na Mona were to beat St Tereseas that would see Moneyglass up in second place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
Good wins for All Saints and St Endas U-21`s yesterday. Neither will be anyone's pushovers based on those score-lines. Portglenone looked very rusty in just about doing enough to see off a gutsy Rossa. Many including myself were not feeling optimistic at half time when we trailed by two and had to face a strong wind and uphill in the second half. Rossa have plenty of quality players, many who have won minor championships or Paul Mc Girr medals, so were are thankful to live to fight another day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on November 03, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
What odds Gort na Mona and St. Teresa's playing for a draw this week? Draw suits both teams if teams that finish level on points are decided by the head to head scenario as stated in the rule book. in the two games between Gorts and Aghagallon this year the results were A 2-15 Gorts 2-9 and Gorts 2-16 A 2-9. Therefore 1 win each but Gorts have a better scoring difference of +1. in the games between Moneyglass and St. Teresa's again its one win each but St. Teresa's won their game 1-19 to 0-13 whereas Moneyglass only won theirs 0-14 to 0-13. Could we see both teams kick the ball back and forth to one another for 60 mins maybe even a 0-0 TO 0-0 draw. I wouldn't like to be a Moneyglass or Aghagallon player waiting on that result.


guess what !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 09, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Match fixing at its finest today. We have played our under 21s in the last few games as we were safe going by the league table on the website. Then all of a sudden we have been deducted a point and now were faced with this farce today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2014, 05:43:15 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on November 03, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
What odds Gort na Mona and St. Teresa's playing for a draw this week? Draw suits both teams if teams that finish level on points are decided by the head to head scenario as stated in the rule book. in the two games between Gorts and Aghagallon this year the results were A 2-15 Gorts 2-9 and Gorts 2-16 A 2-9. Therefore 1 win each but Gorts have a better scoring difference of +1. in the games between Moneyglass and St. Teresa's again its one win each but St. Teresa's won their game 1-19 to 0-13 whereas Moneyglass only won theirs 0-14 to 0-13. Could we see both teams kick the ball back and forth to one another for 60 mins maybe even a 0-0 TO 0-0 draw. I wouldn't like to be a Moneyglass or Aghagallon player waiting on that result.
guess what HH the way i read the rule Moneyglass are promoted................head to head is one apiece and thus score difference on league performances all year is the decision maker.............Gort na Mona will however profit and they will retain status at the expense of Aghagallon....................maybe i am wrong as the little man may well change the rules. 

guess what !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
Youd think the clubs involved would know whether the advantaged lay in a greater points difference, or on the result of the head to head. I`d say St Teresas knew what they were doing. Match fixing not nice, but self service the only show in town.

On another note...well done St Brigids on getting a rare Ulster club victory on the club scene against the Cavan U-16 champs in the Paul Mc Girr tournament in Dromore. Great to see a bright glimmer from South Belfast, too big an area not to have a strong presence. Think Greg Finnegan is the manager (ex county full back now into his fifties) and as far as I know this is his first ever foray into management. Not bad for a management debut!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 09, 2014, 07:20:51 PM
Head to head is determined by who has the better score difference over the 2 meetings,  so unless each team beat each other by the same amount,  it won't go to overall score difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2014, 05:43:15 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on November 03, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
What odds Gort na Mona and St. Teresa's playing for a draw this week? Draw suits both teams if teams that finish level on points are decided by the head to head scenario as stated in the rule book. in the two games between Gorts and Aghagallon this year the results were A 2-15 Gorts 2-9 and Gorts 2-16 A 2-9. Therefore 1 win each but Gorts have a better scoring difference of +1. in the games between Moneyglass and St. Teresa's again its one win each but St. Teresa's won their game 1-19 to 0-13 whereas Moneyglass only won theirs 0-14 to 0-13. Could we see both teams kick the ball back and forth to one another for 60 mins maybe even a 0-0 TO 0-0 draw. I wouldn't like to be a Moneyglass or Aghagallon player waiting on that result.
guess what HH the way i read the rule Moneyglass are promoted................head to head is one apiece and thus score difference on league performances all year is the decision maker.............Gort na Mona will however profit and they will retain status at the expense of Aghagallon....................maybe i am wrong as the little man may well change the rules. 

guess what !!

i think the highlighted bit above is right, therefore teresas are up.
Leagues and promotions arent decided over an hour, its over 18 hours. Moneyglass had 30 mins there 2 weeks ago to seal promotion, a 5 point lead against Glenavy, but blew it. So match fixing or no match fixing, its no-one elses fault
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 09, 2014, 10:05:46 PM
Was talking to a lad at today's game, he said st Teresa's kept ball in their own half for the last 10 mins under no pressure at all.

Not a great way to finish the season, but what can the county do about this? Perhaps each final league game could be on the same day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2014, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: The Worker on November 09, 2014, 10:05:46 PM
Was talking to a lad at today's game, he said st Teresa's kept ball in their own half for the last 10 mins under no pressure at all.

Not a great way to finish the season, but what can the county do about this? Perhaps each final league game could be on the same day?

yep, before the chsip starts
start the league in March. surely in this day in age, even with county, back door and all, floodlights at MOST grounds, you can get 18 games in, Sun,Wed, Sun when possible.

No problem. I know most clubs are dual but still........

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: worn down on November 10, 2014, 12:03:07 AM
I always played to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 10, 2014, 09:36:31 AM
Think I'll do the Euromillions tomorrow night after my prediction during the week lol. In all seriousness a draw was always on the cards and why wouldn't the two teams play for a draw if that was all they required. The management of both teams aren't stupid and like myself would have looked closely ay the tables and knew that a draw would suit both teams. Looks like my interpretation of the rules was also correct.  What would be the point of stipulating head to head results in the regulations, if score difference in the games between the sides was not also applied. It would be a bit of a contradiction. Anyway fair play to Gorts for coming with a late run to stay up when they looked doomed with a few games to go and also to the Glen Road men for securing promotion. I do feel sorry though for Aghagallon though, if they only found out after they had completed their games that they would be deducted a point for Failing to Field although saying that everyone knows that the main penalty for failing to field is the loss of the point and not the £300 and they should have known that. Exciting finale to the county's most competitive league in any case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 10, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
Some conflicting points of view on the Antrim official guestbook, wonder why the admin hasn't replied to say who is right and who is wrong? looks to me like GNM and St T's got the outcome they required, no way would they have played the game out without knowing 100%
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 10, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 10, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
Some conflicting points of view on the Antrim official guestbook, wonder why the admin hasn't replied to say who is right and who is wrong? looks to me like GNM and St T's got the outcome they required, no way would they have played the game out without knowing 100%

came on to post them and saw this from you earlier - i will paste them anyway

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Was not at the game but unfortunate outcome for both St Teresas and GNM.

It is sods law that the one result that would see St Teresas missing out on promotion and GNM relegated was going to be the outcome.

Best of luck to both teams next year, St Teresas have been progressing nicely for a number of years and should be abck in the hunt for promotion while I make GNM early favourites for Div 3 and an immediate return.

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Was at the gort na Mona & st teresas game today, well done both teams on getting a draw which suited both parties. A more competitive and hard hitting game will not be seen all year. Both teams fought to the final whistle.

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as you say, i dont know who is right.  ???


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 10, 2014, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 10, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 10, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
Some conflicting points of view on the Antrim official guestbook, wonder why the admin hasn't replied to say who is right and who is wrong? looks to me like GNM and St T's got the outcome they required, no way would they have played the game out without knowing 100%

came on to post them and saw this from you earlier - i will paste them anyway

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Was not at the game but unfortunate outcome for both St Teresas and GNM.

It is sods law that the one result that would see St Teresas missing out on promotion and GNM relegated was going to be the outcome.

Best of luck to both teams next year, St Teresas have been progressing nicely for a number of years and should be abck in the hunt for promotion while I make GNM early favourites for Div 3 and an immediate return.

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Was at the gort na Mona & st teresas game today, well done both teams on getting a draw which suited both parties. A more competitive and hard hitting game will not be seen all year. Both teams fought to the final whistle.

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as you say, i dont know who is right.  ???

These reports seem to contradict others who said it was played at a pedestrian pace with the super ts playing it between themselves last 10. Anyone at the game able to confirm ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
Well...............saw the league regulations and the above is right but......................it seems that Ahoghill were informed by the CCC man that if they were to lose their last remaining game to cargin by over 21 points on Sunday they would be relegated, despite winning both their games against St Paul's in that head to head situation...................... didn't see that one in the regulations ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 11, 2014, 09:29:29 AM
Yes Country Bumpkin, that is right. The rule states that if two teams finish level, it comes down to  head to head results between those two teams but if more than two teams level on points then it comes down to score difference between these teams. Hence St. Paul's having the worst scoring difference between of the 3 teams and getting relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2014, 11:16:26 AM
Yeah I think the key point there is there were 3 teams on level points. so then it can't go on head to heads as it won't work...

How have Lamh Dhearg got to be relegation candidates with the all the players they have coming through??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 12, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
See in co Antrim Post today that Garrett Duffy is quitting reffing.

Sad to see. Sounds bleak on the reffing front here and interesting to read how lonely it is being a ref, something most wouldn't take the time to think about.

Good luck in your retirement if you're reading and thanks for the service you gave our county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 12, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 12, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
See in co Antrim Post today that Garrett Duffy is quitting reffing.

Sad to see. Sounds bleak on the reffing front here and interesting to read how lonely it is being a ref, something most wouldn't take the time to think about.

Good luck in your retirement if you're reading and thanks for the service you gave our county

There have been plenty of good refs before him that have retired & havent got in contact with their local paper to let everyone know!
just sums up some people that they feel that important they have to have a parting shot at members of committees that they are also part of & that cant defend themselves. bit like on the pitch where arrogance isnt repsectful to others.
but here if hes looking a pat on the back or a medal for bravery he wont get one here!! sometimes you bring these things onto yourself by the way you carry yourself on the field & off it.

hopefully the inner circle is now broken & we can cope without the like lol  ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 12, 2014, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 22, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: billabong on October 22, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on October 22, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 19, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Ive recently moved to Lisburn lads, living in the Thaxton village/Lady Wallace square area.

What is my local GAA team?  If I wanted to play some even reserve football up here, what good clubs are there about to join where Id get a game?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/solicitor-on-sexual-assault-charge-faces-trial-30683463.html

Watch out Christmas Lights!

Bringing shame to the area  >:(

What's that area like anyway Christmas Lights? Moving into the Magheralave Road area in a while, beside the St Patrick's pitch.


Nice enough area, though don't venture across the road into Ballymacash with your county geansaí

Thaxton is a very nice area and very very quiet.  No flags or anything to be seen and you see people wearing GAA tops around it quite often so we are gradually taking over Lisburn  ;D

I sense us growing in population in the area & moving into Loyalist Ballymacash where it will be renamed "Free Ballymacash"  ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2014, 06:46:46 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 12, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 12, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
See in co Antrim Post today that Garrett Duffy is quitting reffing.

Sad to see. Sounds bleak on the reffing front here and interesting to read how lonely it is being a ref, something most wouldn't take the time to think about.

Good luck in your retirement if you're reading and thanks for the service you gave our county
Agree totally with what u say Culchie...........some of our referees do think they are bigger than our game and I am not at all surprised that this individual ran crying to the press, and he certainly fits that profile..........we do have a good supply of young whistlers, and like yourself I will not be missing this individual...............

There have been plenty of good refs before him that have retired & havent got in contact with their local paper to let everyone know!
just sums up some people that they feel that important they have to have a parting shot at members of committees that they are also part of & that cant defend themselves. bit like on the pitch where arrogance isnt repsectful to others.
but here if hes looking a pat on the back or a medal for bravery he wont get one here!! sometimes you bring these things onto yourself by the way you carry yourself on the field & off it.

hopefully the inner circle is now broken & we can cope without the like lol  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 12, 2014, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2014, 06:46:46 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 12, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 12, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
See in co Antrim Post today that Garrett Duffy is quitting reffing.

Sad to see. Sounds bleak on the reffing front here and interesting to read how lonely it is being a ref, something most wouldn't take the time to think about.

Good luck in your retirement if you're reading and thanks for the service you gave our county
Agree totally with what u say Culchie...........some of our referees do think they are bigger than our game and I am not at all surprised that this individual ran crying to the press, and he certainly fits that profile..........we do have a good supply of young whistlers, and like yourself I will not be missing this individual...............

There have been plenty of good refs before him that have retired & havent got in contact with their local paper to let everyone know!
just sums up some people that they feel that important they have to have a parting shot at members of committees that they are also part of & that cant defend themselves. bit like on the pitch where arrogance isnt repsectful to others.
but here if hes looking a pat on the back or a medal for bravery he wont get one here!! sometimes you bring these things onto yourself by the way you carry yourself on the field & off it.

hopefully the inner circle is now broken & we can cope without the like lol  ::)

;D >:( ;D ;D Ah jesus lad's put a beggar on horseback..... Who's next Elliott, Hassan, Kelly, Mc Knight.. and so it goes on, I'd doubt use intellectuals would pass the Rules Test!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
Nothing like a bitta referee bashing eh? Lord help us if there are any arrogant players out there  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 12, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
Mr2 excuse my arrogance Ieft you out! 1000 pardons.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 12, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
Mr2 excuse my arrogance Ieft you out! 1000 pardons.... ;)

I'm only a pup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 12, 2014, 11:56:15 PM
Not bashing referees more the fact that one in particular got in contact with a local paper to have a parting shot! It seemed like he didn't get enough limelight throughout his career! He has a go at a committee he is (is he still) part of, surely he was or still is in a position to do something about his concerns!

Needed his ego massaged!

Mi bag is the one who mentioned the others and this is the football thread by the way so couldn't comment on the refs u mentioned lol

Personally don't have a problem with refs in general, the South west seems to be strong in that area lately!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
Collie played senior football and hurling for the Johnnies, so I doubt you'd be calling his ability to referee, and Aidan did our semi final this year and by all accounts did a decent job.

So did he go to the reporter and demand that they hear his story or was he asked to give an account of his refereeing career?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 13, 2014, 04:24:24 PM
MR2 as i said i didnt question other refs!! not even ur good self  ;)

i know what side of story u will hear, but dont always believe everything u hear from a fellow club man lol

by the way did u read the piece? how many mentions does he give to the many finals he did club & county??

surely u wudnt forget to mention them if you were recalling ur career!

an axe to grind me thinks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2014, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 13, 2014, 04:24:24 PM
MR2 as i said i didnt question other refs!! not even ur good self  ;)

i know what side of story u will hear, but dont always believe everything u hear from a fellow club man lol

by the way did u read the piece? how many mentions does he give to the many finals he did club & county??

surely u wudnt forget to mention them if you were recalling ur career!

an axe to grind me thinks!

In fairness I haven't read the article, but if someone wants to send a link to it I'll run my eye over it and give you a better response, though I didn't claim to read it or make any judgement on it, nor did I ask the man in questions, working away in Engerland for few months so out of the loop on things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 13, 2014, 05:04:13 PM
Who won the south west player of the year award ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 13, 2014, 05:13:15 PM
Culchie11 I read it is there anything factually incorrect? Thought it was quiet tame in all fairness was expecting more bite from it so in that respect I was disappointed in it. Would you referee? He has done a number of finals in both codes and at national including a Christy Ring and AI 1/4, s and semi, s so what is your particular beef with it? The CHC which I think he is referring as we all know those in the inner circle is a joke and he's right every man and his feckn dog gets a chance to turn up at those meetings except the refs. The rest of the article tends to deal with oersonal experiences. If it had of been me I would have had a go at most of that useless ex committee and the balls up it continually makes casement and dunsilly to quote the obvious. So again where is the controversy apart from your own petty issue's,  he must have dealt with you at some stage and your now on your wee soap box taking a free one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2014, 05:33:16 PM
Colm Duffin Moneyglass won SW footballer of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 13, 2014, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2014, 05:33:16 PM
Colm Duffield Moneyglass won SW footballer of the year.

who the hell is he ? Sounds like an english footballer or something !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 13, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 13, 2014, 09:02:25 PM
What is this award and how is it decided?


as a relative newcomer to these shores, i think it's a bit like North and South Derry, where the SW Antrim people dont like the McCooeys, and keep the award ceremony to themselves.
So bannside informs me anyway ;)
Country Bumpkin decides it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2014, 10:14:30 PM
Corrected that there. Predictive text running riot!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 13, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 13, 2014, 10:38:55 PM
First I've ever heard of it.  Is it like a players player of the year or something?  Sounds crazy!

Think it's voted for by the clubs. Duffin was excellent for mglass this year and deserves the award.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
What's crazy about it? SW clubs all have a vote on their regional player of the year. I would be confident it's been going on for at least 30 years at this stage. Smiley Duffin a great talent aright. He would be expected to go close to a starters jersey for the county but had a few injuries and finished this year strongly to finish top scorer in the c'ship. Good age now to kick on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 14, 2014, 12:08:35 AM
It's co-ordinated by SW board Mickey. They ask clubs for nominations before a certain date and then the clubs vote for their preference. Fairly straightforward. I'd be surprised if NA didn't have a senior hurler of the year award?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
Niall Donnelly from G'ravel got NA junior hurler and Arron Graffin got senior. I think its a good idea to give these divisional board awards out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2014, 01:10:36 PM
South West Player of the year award goes back a long time, and the issue is decided on nominations from the clubs...............and I had no say in the matter HH.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 01:48:30 PM
South Antrim did it one year, I didn't win but I was player manager of our south Antrim hurling team and was asked to name a player from another club who (in my opinion) was the best player that season, the fecker won!! he'd look in here every so often, so he owes me a drink. But think that's the only time I seen it happening.

Not a bad thing but you'd be surprised at the lack of knowledge managers/players would have of opposing players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
South West clubs make nomination MR2........per respective club committees and no player involvement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
South West clubs make nomination MR2........per respective club committees and no player involvement.

So the SW chairman picks it? he'll hardly be at all the games surely, explain how the winner is picked?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2014, 04:08:44 PM
As I said MR2 all of the South West club committees are to nominate a player whom they deem 'player of the year', and the individual who gains the highest number of votes takes it............................
???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2014, 10:29:04 AM
Anybody know the football panel for 2015?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2014, 12:18:57 PM
I always thought a good way to pick player of the year for each league was for the ref to give votes. Similar to aussie rules format. Ref sends in his report with 3 points for best player on the day, 2 points for 2nd best and 1 point for 3rd best. Count them up at end of the year and see who comes out on top. Probably be a lot of work and hassle for club level. County level might work though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2014, 12:42:31 PM
Big shout out to everyone involved in the match for Anto tonight. Can't actually make it  myself (had the tickets bought) as our club dinner dance is on tonight but we will be making a collection for this most worthy cause.

Kevin Madden article in today's Irish News just about sums it up. Its a great must see piece of writing worthy of this occasion and stings with emotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 15, 2014, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 01:48:30 PM
Not a bad thing but you'd be surprised at the lack of knowledge managers/players would have of opposing players

That's kind of the reason I was calling it crazy.  I would very rarely get the chance to watch other clubs playing due to being at all of my own club's games and I'm sure that would apply to most members of clubs.  I'm not a huge fan of players of the year and that malarky.  Our club still gives them out from Under 8 right up to senior.  For the one person you make very happy, it runs the risk of disappointing another 5 or 6 or sometimes more which could lead to controversy and animosity.  If you preach teamship and team effort, then why reward individuals?  (An no its not a sore point with me - received a fair few myself lol)

At every grade myself also but would hand them all back to win a senior hurling championship medal!! Yeah I can see the why its done in fairness, can propel players to better levels, can be used to (certainly at juvenile levels) reward the hard working player who doesn't take the plaudits but is every bit as important as the 'star' man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on November 16, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
Bannside  - I was at the Game For Anto last night, it was a terrific occasion all round. A few observations, the Dubs going forward ar a joy to watch. Even in mid November, during what was essentially a challenge match, their pace if lightening quick,

There were some great passages of play, doe great skills on show and well taken scores. Jamie Clarke is a delight to watch too. From our point of view, Mick McCann stood out, he more than held his own in midfield and chipped in with 1.1, the goal was a brilliant strike at the end of a solo run more associated with his younger brother. KOBO when he came on shone as well, cut out some great balls headed the way of Kevin McManamon.McKeever did ok when on, plenty of running and Paddy C chipped in with a cheeky point when he came on. I know it was a challenge game, but better to see Antrim players playing well than badly.

One thing I was disappointed with was the size of the crowd. I know the media are reporting on the 'the great support' etc, but 6,000? I thought more people would have shown up. I know there are conflicting events (a dinner dance is a fair reason...) but honestly I can hardly think of a reason no tot have been there.

As for Ravenhill, great venue and the security staff / stewards....a permanent smile on their faces and 'can I help you?' on the lips. Very enjoyable night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on November 17, 2014, 06:47:37 AM
Do all grounds not belong to the GAA ie. croke park?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 17, 2014, 09:50:33 AM
Down to the last 4 now in the U-21 Championship. I think someone predicted from the outset it would be L Dhearg v Portglenone and Johnnies v Enda's in the semis and that's how it turned out. Easy wins for Lamhs and Johnnies in the 1/4's as expected but Portglenone and Enda's had it much tougher in their matches with a late goal getting Portglenone over the line against a St. Brigid's team without their best player and an Enda's team with 12 minors being taken to extra time. Looks like a repeat of the minor final of 3 years ago with L Dhearg v Johnnies in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
Think that we (the Antrim clubs) would have been better served to put all of our energies into building a stadium in the centre of our county (in Antrim or on the land which we own in Randalstown), using the capital which the sale of the Casement site would generate.............bet there won't be as many protestations or open hands extended in such circumstance.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 18, 2014, 09:09:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 17, 2014, 10:56:37 PM
Aye, somewhere like Dunsilly? That'd be just great so it would now. Just great.

Really HS can't see your point, dunsily was a great, well thought out project from our CB. The swiftness in how quickly it was completed was not only impressive but has to applauded....

Seriously though, on dunsily, I genuinely feel sorry for st comhgalls, the pitch they are playing on at the minute is brutal and not fit for senior football, seems they will be waiting a while on the use of a pitch they were promised and also, if memory serves me right put money towards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2014, 09:18:28 AM
And ur alternative is HS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 18, 2014, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 18, 2014, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 18, 2014, 09:09:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 17, 2014, 10:56:37 PM
Aye, somewhere like Dunsilly? That'd be just great so it would now. Just great.

Really HS can't see your point, dunsily was a great, well thought out project from our CB. The swiftness in how quickly it was completed was not only impressive but has to applauded....

Seriously though, on dunsily, I genuinely feel sorry for st comhgalls, the pitch they are playing on at the minute is brutal and not fit for senior football, seems they will be waiting a while on the use of a pitch they were promised and also, if memory serves me right put money towards?
Is this post not somewhat contradictory??

No HS you must have picked it up wrong, i was being sarcastic, the fact that heads have not rolled regarding dunsily is a farce, we are still footing a bill for something that has completely stopped while another massive project in casement is undertaken leaving dunsily getting into a worse state. Only in Antrim can this happem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on November 19, 2014, 10:48:25 PM
With this amount of disaffection it will be interesting to peruse the volume and variety of nominations from clubs for the key positions on County Executive. All zero of them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2014, 11:09:32 PM
So true Brendan, but in fairness, there are about 20 Antrim posters on here, some I'd say have multiple names so that 20 drops a bit and others probably not even proper members of 'their' clubs, so have no say in how they would actually like their clbs to vote come county convention.....

Anyway, it would never tell them to actually catch themselves on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 20, 2014, 04:14:54 PM
Anybody know the what the county senior panel is for 2015? I know the hurlers have been in the press but haven't saw anything from the footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on November 20, 2014, 07:21:43 PM
Some of you Cyber Bullies/Keyboard warriors should put your names forward for the CB.  Some of you would have us believe you have the Panacea to solve all our problems?

Dont think so, a more spineless, gutless, tactless, two faced, self serving, insidious and insignificant bunch, I have ever had the misfortune to listen to.  Unlike me, an amiable, open, tactful, brave, honest, trustworthy and reliable individual, I just do not know why I listen to such vitriolic diatribe.  Absolutely nothing to offer to anyone.  So, so sad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2014, 08:46:50 AM
There are plenty of people on here who have served on county boards, sub committees, regional boards and club committees. Many others have done the rounds coaching or in other necessary roles within the GAA. So your broad stroke there is just too general to be given any consideration whatsoever.

Are people totally frustrated with what they see from our county executive.Yes they are. Are they entitled to express that opinion amongst their peers in the same way as there are discussion threads now about just about everything. Yes they are.

Does that make everyone gutless for having an opinion. Tell you what Get Even. Throw your credentials and your identity into the open and I will too (I don't make it a secret) and we will take it from there. Let's see who wants to hide behind the keyboard now. w**ker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 21, 2014, 09:02:51 AM
'vitriolic diatribe'...hmmmmm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2014, 09:05:37 AM
Big shout out this weekend to St Brigids who have got into the final of the Paul Mc Girr Ulster U-16 final in Dromore. Managed by Greg Finnegan and Jack Dowling this is a great achievement to date and shows that there is genuine talent in South Belfast that needs to be nurtured. Good luck to them.

Speaking of St Brigids, we (Portglenone) made hard work of getting over them last weekend in the Under 21 QF. We were at home, with a pretty full team, and just about got over the line. (Sorry it was St Brigids/St Patricks) but I think most players were St Brigids. They have a few really good players too so all not lost yet on the Malone Road.

This week sees a repeat of last years final between ourselves and Lamh Dhearg. We havent sparked yet and Lamhs have picked up a few new players (gooduns too) in Donal Doherty and Ben Rice and with the younger Stranney back they will be a tough nut to crack. St Johns and St Endas in the other semi might be close enough too, but Johnnies should have enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2014, 10:02:27 AM
Possibly a good spot Jeepers. Sure we wont have long to wait to find out.......not!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2014, 10:56:07 AM
A few famous fathers in there too BS.

If the son is half as good as the da we'd take the young Blaney in CHF for a few years!.(Maybe we could get a Brolly corner forward out of that club too!)

I'm not sure who it is getting bullied here but not a great loss to anywhere...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2014, 12:13:10 PM
Ah right...

I thought you'd left?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2014, 12:47:19 PM
A couple of Blaney and Brollys. ...Sure if they were half as good as their Dad's! That's why the development of St Brigids is so important to Antrim Football. 

One of their mentors told me that of the panel that played against us at the weekend, at least a dozen really promising juveniles who had been expected to come through at senior, had stopped playing. That's a huge stat.  Also that they had around 20 players at the same university in England (Newcastle) including Deaghlan O Hagan who is doing a masters. That's another pretty amazing stat too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 21, 2014, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 13, 2014, 05:13:15 PM
Culchie11 I read it is there anything factually incorrect? Thought it was quiet tame in all fairness was expecting more bite from it so in that respect I was disappointed in it. Would you referee? He has done a number of finals in both codes and at national including a Christy Ring and AI 1/4, s and semi, s so what is your particular beef with it? The CHC which I think he is referring as we all know those in the inner circle is a joke and he's right every man and his feckn dog gets a chance to turn up at those meetings except the refs. The rest of the article tends to deal with oersonal experiences. If it had of been me I would have had a go at most of that useless ex committee and the balls up it continually makes casement and dunsilly to quote the obvious. So again where is the controversy apart from your own petty issue's,  he must have dealt with you at some stage and your now on your wee soap box taking a free one.

I see ur mate has paid a small price for his advert in the local paper!!

you cant expect to still get games after coming out with a mouthful in the paper.

im sure the teams involved wont complain either. as i said b4 he is in a position to do something about his concerns regarding refereeing in the county, why not use that position rather than sit back & complain.

to be honest i havent seen our county to be as well off regarding referees, havent seen a game in a long time that the ref hasnt turned up. vast improvements have taken place over the last number of years. praise where it is due.

not an easy job adminstrating the refs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2014, 05:11:04 PM
Antrim teams tend to do well in that u16 BS. St Brigids you would expect at some point would come good with numbers etc. I had thought they maybe would suffer less from migration due to universities being so close at hand to them but maybe not. I would expect them to be up there at some stage in the next ten or fifteen years. Loughrey going to Cork and Brolly retiring would have stumped their senior development a bit but I'm sure that it will pick back up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 21, 2014, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 21, 2014, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 13, 2014, 05:13:15 PM
Culchie11 I read it is there anything factually incorrect? Thought it was quiet tame in all fairness was expecting more bite from it so in that respect I was disappointed in it. Would you referee? He has done a number of finals in both codes and at national including a Christy Ring and AI 1/4, s and semi, s so what is your particular beef with it? The CHC which I think he is referring as we all know those in the inner circle is a joke and he's right every man and his feckn dog gets a chance to turn up at those meetings except the refs. The rest of the article tends to deal with oersonal experiences. If it had of been me I would have had a go at most of that useless ex committee and the balls up it continually makes casement and dunsilly to quote the obvious. So again where is the controversy apart from your own petty issue's,  he must have dealt with you at some stage and your now on your wee soap box taking a free one.

I see ur mate has paid a small price for his advert in the local paper!!

you cant expect to still get games after coming out with a mouthful in the paper.

im sure the teams involved wont complain either. as i said b4 he is in a position to do something about his concerns regarding refereeing in the county, why not use that position rather than sit back & complain.

to be honest i havent seen our county to be as well off regarding referees, havent seen a game in a long time that the ref hasnt turned up. vast improvements have taken place over the last number of years. praise where it is due.

not an easy job adminstrating the refs.

Im glad to see you back culchie11 you dropped off there for a while, seen your post and unlike yourself I set about making enquiries and got some interesting comments and facts to say the least:

What price has he paid? I believe the County chairman instructed his message boy to remove him this morning, I think that says more about the petty approach they have taken rather than what the article highlighted in fact it plays into the hands in some aspects of the article which as I have said didn't go far enough in my opinion.

He appoints Hurling refs as part of his role on the committee and to be fair a lot of new hurling refs have appeared at senior level than ever before and most of the finals if not all had a new Referees at the helm but speak to them if you know any, the "message boy" oops sorry chairman of this committee knows feck all about hurling has no interest in it apart from turning up to be seen at high profile games and dinners so we can take it that he's had no influence in the new lads over the last few years. Oh sorry this is a football thread and were talking about hurling, ok.

He sits on a committee that really carries no influence in the wider circles of the EC in Antrim, so in some respects that gives them a dispensation from all the fck ups that the rest have made around Casement and Dunsilly and the closed shop approach excluding the clubs from what is really going on and those who are benefitting at volunteers expense, gee I must go out a register my own management company, maybe I could manage a mini Croke Park one day? Maybe Santa will give me one for Christmas?

Now the CHC which he actually grew a pair of balls to highlight in his article, the present chairman (CHC) is not able to perform his duties due to ill health, so it falls to all I can say is a man from Gortnamona that feels that he will some day become a County Vice Chair? Somehow like wee Joe I can never see the real masters letting this happen as he hasn't the breeding, but he's not short on telling you a story, he wants to be friends with people he feels will help his idiotic fantasy and he's dying to get to Croker one day, he does live close to Sambo though in his villa in Portugal and Sambo spoke well at the recent 40yrs anniversary of the Gorts Club, oh yes and he delayed a hearings committee meeting for over 6 weeks for his next door neighbour to stay on the line through the Ulster campaign, Id probably do the same so no harm in that is there?

So to back to your original point of making changes from within, you have a message boy, a wanna be and an executive that is skint due to the disastrous approach on said projects by their closest colleagues, so do you really think that changes would happen?

I also believe that no shows where at about 20% across the board so happy to argue that with ya, once you get the facts. Feel free to drop me a PM anytime if need more specifics happy to supply them once I do my research of course. Don't wait so long next time to reply and once again I ask what price has he really paid then? His withdrawal says more about the county than his article ever did in my opinion of course, but then again I support all referees good and bad, shouldn't you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 21, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
U talk of no shows which I know r all hurling which ur mate was in charge of appointing lol

I think we can all c where the real thorn lies with the 2 of u, chc! Goin back over an old issue I presume, where some wud like to be judge jury and executioner! U c the thing is when u as a ref or former ref write ur report ur job is done! End of!
Some though want to make sure the culprit gets a stern sentence and wants to give evidence at a hearing! But thats not in the rule book!

Sure he will maybe start up an new association for refs, oh wait that's already been tried  ;)

I hear dunsilly will be up and running next year, maybe not fully completed but I look forward to it opening, as with owenbeg and garvaghey these centre r essential moving forward. Hopefully the judge in casement debacle gives the go ahead shortly also, but sure then there wud always be something else to cry about!

Some ppl really shouldn't carry chips on their shoulders and just get on with things as living in the past ain't no good for anyone!

To infinity and beyond as they say!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 23, 2014, 04:37:53 PM
Donkey's Leading Lions... Donkey's Leading Lions LMAO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2014, 07:49:15 PM
Jeez are the Brits really back within the ranks of our brave men in the middle...............I wonder........... are they leading the charge all dressed up in the green and black? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
St Brigids made a huge impression in a narrow defeat in the Ulster Club under 16 club final. They lost by two points but were denied victory by a fingertip save for a shot that was heading for the corner of the net - and a minute from the end a goal bound effort that whizzed narrowly wide. In the end it was Burren hanging on for dear life.

St Brigids didn't let Antrim down today - in fact they won the respect of everyone lucky enough to have been there. Both players and management can take a huge bow. Inches away from making it three Antrim clubs out of four years to take home this prestigious trophy. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on November 24, 2014, 10:10:32 AM
I was down at that one Bannside, what a match. Probably one of the best games I've seen all season. Pity for the young Brigids players that they fell just short - by inches - but it was heartening to see an Antrim team going toe to toe with apparent 'hot favourites' and giving it everything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2014, 11:51:09 AM
Mores the pity there'll more than likely be a huge number of them who'll just pack it in in a couple of years. Have heard the same from Bredagh who've lost big numbers of 'senior potential' youngsters once they get to 18
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 24, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
Any thoughts on how to prevent this?

Difficult age to retain them but there has to be a way otherwise these clubs will just remain as juvenile sections really.
Probably something that all teams in the city could do with figuring out really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on November 24, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
Yes its a city wide issue and I guess work / university comes into play in a couple of years for these guys. Maybe their pedigree will produce more stickability in this case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on November 24, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
Yes its a city wide issue and I guess work / university comes into play in a couple of years for these guys. Maybe their pedigree will produce more stickability in this case.

Yes indeed .... the bumpkins don't need to concern themselves with such things as work or education  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 24, 2014, 06:41:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 24, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
Any thoughts on how to prevent this?

Difficult age to retain them but there has to be a way otherwise these clubs will just remain as juvenile sections really.
Probably something that all teams in the city could do with figuring out really.
Get the hooks into parents/families early on, witout that influence many players are easily distracted and will drift away probably never to return sadly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 24, 2014, 07:15:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2014, 07:49:15 PM
Jeez are the Brits really back within the ranks of our brave men in the middle...............I wonder........... are they leading the charge all dressed up in the green and black? ???


Ipsa Scientia Potestas et, CB I see its not lost on everyone, will see how long it takes C11 for the penny to drop, Damnant quodnon intelligunt......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2014, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 24, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
Any thoughts on how to prevent this?

Difficult age to retain them but there has to be a way otherwise these clubs will just remain as juvenile sections really.
Probably something that all teams in the city could do with figuring out really.

All teams in the city  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 24, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 24, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
Any thoughts on how to prevent this?

Difficult age to retain them but there has to be a way otherwise these clubs will just remain as juvenile sections really.
Probably something that all teams in the city could do with figuring out really.

Absolutely fantastic match. Hitting on a par with what I've seen anywhere. Brigid's camped in Burren half for last ten minutes but panicked and went for goals when points would have won it. Brigid's unlucky though hitting post and another deflected wide but full credit to the Burren keeper saving a certain goal in injury time. Could see these two meeting again in St Paul's if Brigid's keep their team together.

The two Finnegan's at midfield are man mountains but both involved in rugby and rumour is that Ulster may try and lead them away from our game. This would be a serious loss to our county as men like them are few and far between. Some of the hits burying the Burren bigger players was joyous. All fair hits and lead to turnovers and put their 3 main players on the deck and out of the game.

As regards keeping players its difficult for city teams. Many Brigid's boys will want to get away from their parents and the city and may head away for university. For the likes of Burren getting up to Belfast for uni is far enough, but still means they are close enough to play at home.

Galls players all stayed at home for uni. They all knew there was something big happening and all stayed. If a few of them headed away for 3 years it may have changed the history of what happened in last ten or more years.

As Bannside said Brigid's have lost serious amount of boys at u18 to u21 and senior level in last while. They then lost Loughrey and Mark Sweeney (and Dara Edwards) in one go, serious loss of a spine in one year and dropped straight out of Div 1. now Decky O Hagan is away in Newcastle, England. They need the u16s and minor county finalists to move up to senior fast but with boys no doubt drifting away to uni and the difficulties of getting used to senior football it may be a while before a return to div 1 occurs.

If any team lost 3 or 4 of their (and the counties) top players-say the likes of Cargin lost Mick, Tomas,Crozier and Tony Scullion in one go they would seriously struggle too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2014, 08:56:01 AM
Lamh Dhearg were just too strong for us on Saturday and had five points to spare - but we missed two easy goal chances and frees that would have been converted on other days, but thats football. No excuses on the day Lamhs were hungrier.

Under-21 final this Sunday should make an intriguing contest. Both teams have a lot of hunger for this competition and this one could go to the wire. Anyone who doubts the quality of the players coming through in Antrim should be there to see for themselves. Both teams will be at full pitch for this after last years episode, but there should be plenty of cool heads around to make sure football is the winner this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 26, 2014, 02:01:06 PM
I wouldn't be entirely sure that football will prevail in the u21 final on Sunday, I can see this game boiling over again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 26, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 24, 2014, 07:15:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2014, 07:49:15 PM
Jeez are the Brits really back within the ranks of our brave men in the middle...............I wonder........... are they leading the charge all dressed up in the green and black? ???


Ipsa Scientia Potestas et, CB I see its not lost on everyone, will see how long it takes C11 for the penny to drop, Damnant quodnon intelligunt......

Mi bag u can talk shite in what ever language u want, going by what u r posting over the 2 antrim threads, that's all u do!
U seem to think that no one knows more than u, maybe that's the arrogance I was talking about from ur performances on the pitch! Just because someone has a different opinion to urs doesn't mean they r wrong.
Why don't u join the chc if that is ur reason for concern, I'm sure there's not too many knocking the door down! But then what wud u complain about next! I think I have heard all this b4 somewhere!
A fountain of knowledge and a real Ray of sunshine lol  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 26, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Good to see ya back C11 Refs course on this weekend you should sign up or is it a family business already?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 27, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
Im only siging up if ur the tutor, sure anything u dont know isnt worth knowing lol

very cryptic mibag, but no ur barking up the wrong family tree there!

should be 2 good games on sunday in u21 finals, johnnies & creggan will start as favs but both lamhs & glenravel will give a good account of themselves.

im sure st galls will be looking on this sunday thinging what if!
just a catalogue of injuries caught up on them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
Think u are due to sign up as a member of the MIBAG appreciation society/fan club C11............meeting to initiate this body/fan club is to be held in Toome soon..................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 28, 2014, 06:40:45 AM
C11 how about actually replying on a lot of the issue's listed in my previous post's and have real discussion instead of just personal attacks, show the posters you can actually have a structured debate/discussion you seem to have an ear somewhere so lets get down to really discussing what is happening out there.

Casement
Dunsilly
Executive
Paying Debts
Clubs being Lied to etc etc
Fundraising
Club Antrim
Player Welfare
Ref Welfare
Underage Development

Ready when you are....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 28, 2014, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 28, 2014, 06:40:45 AM
C11 how about actually replying on a lot of the issue's listed in my previous post's and have real discussion instead of just personal attacks, show the posters you can actually have a structured debate/discussion you seem to have an ear somewhere so lets get down to really discussing what is happening out there.

Casement -What happens next, your guess is as good as mine, judge still pondering over his decision last i heard
Dunsilly - will open next year in some capacity, with temporary facilities
Executive - not alot just know that some egos r bigger than others, some well respected men some not so well, imo they put themselves forward & i respect them for that others dont have guts for it
Paying Debts - not sure what specifically u mean, court fees?
Clubs being Lied to etc etc - again not sure what u mean, u obviously know more than me as i said anything u dont know isnt worht knowing lol
Fundraising - some working is ongoing but alot more needs to be done to get us where we want to be
Club Antrim - see above
Player Welfare - each club shud look after their own players, but if u mean county players, they get plenty but wud prob look for more, again this is due to funding & other projects coming 1st
Ref Welfare - standard has improved vastly, still wud be behind derry in regard to the way they manage their champ games, some mainly hurling refs still have egos, give respect get respect is a 2 way thing. welfare for them as far as i know they now do rules & fitness tests, have seminars on new rules, get expenses, u obv know more than me on this & will disagree but i think they get fair treatment
Underage Development - dev squads have been better this year than previous years, hopefully that trend can continue, still a long way to go. bannside had mentioned previously the way other counties wud put us to shame


Ready when you are....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2014, 09:23:38 AM
St Johns did enough yesterday to beat Lamh Dhearg to claim the last football silverware of the year. Good to see both teams showing proper discipline too. If St Johns can keep the Johnstons playing football they have a great chance of being a serious force in the next few years. Personally I would have started Paddy Mc Bride at 11, at the end of the day it was he took the game by the scruff of the neck and reminded us of his fantastic ability and got his team across the line. And Ryan Murray showed us some sublime glimpses of why he is one of the hottest talents in Ulster. Worth the admission money to watch these two alone, and overall two good teams going head to head.

But in the end it was St Johns players total unselfishness and ability to keep the ball that made the difference. You can see that they have been exceptionally well coached in their youth (this team won the feile) and thats standing to them still.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
Suprised St Johns turned up. Fair play to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on December 01, 2014, 11:42:37 AM
The U-21 draws the domestic season to a close. Johnnies have a lot of very good young footballers although their problem is that some of the ones that Bannside mentioned will always prioritise hurling and this may be to the detriment of their future prospects at senior level. Hopefully they can give the Ulster Club U-21 championship a good crack. Antrim clubs are usually fairly competitive within Ulster from U-16 right up to senior with Portglenone beating the Derry champs last year in this competition. Prospects look bleak for Rossa in the Ulster Minor club with them due to play Glen (going for 4 in a row). I see they took a walloping in the minor league final yesterday from St. Enda's. Surprised at that! Would have thought that with winning the county minor championship that they were all set to give Ulster a run!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2014, 12:20:19 PM
St johns for senior championship then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on December 01, 2014, 03:09:44 PM
You'll win nothing with kids... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on December 01, 2014, 03:29:07 PM
3 good games yesterday by all accounts, great to see them being officiated by 3 good up and coming referees as well, its a thankless task at times but their appears to be a good number of young referees coming through in the county at the minute. Hopefully this trend continues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
Good to see St John's back winning football titles.  They are a big brand Antrim club and the county has always done well when we had a strong Johnnies. Think most of them will stick at it given the fantastic amount of medals they have accumulated and whilst the dual player thing may have a downside sure it's a nice problem for them to have to deal with balancing that. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 01, 2014, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2014, 12:20:19 PM
St johns for senior championship then.

I love how you like to shake the tree and see if anything falls out, but in the next few years someone will have to step up to the plate and win a championship. will it be St Johns?? maybe or Cargin?? the unfontunate thing is that whoever it is will only have to be mediocre or just above as St Galls when taken over will not be the same St Galls that dominated for 10+ years. I don't see another club that will win ulster or get to a few club All Ireland finals. I cant at the minute see Antrim football getting back to the level of Div 2 where they were a few years ago and I cant see any future antrim clubs making a big impact outside of the county setting. I hope im wrong but to me yo-yoing between div4 and div3 for the county footballers and a club team that may win one round of the ulster championship is going to be our lot for the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2014, 09:29:37 PM
I'm messing of course as you well know.....  ;)

Its up to clubs to get to that standard, but if we keep winning Antrim championships with an aging team then we will never get back to that 'club' standard for a while unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 04, 2014, 11:01:21 AM
C11 I hear your colleagues have ousted GD from the Refs committee, well done use lads, as I said before Donkeys leading Lions! Im sure what comes around will go around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 04, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
Mibag u sound surprised!

Why wud u keep someone involved in a committee when they publicly say they can't bring themselves to promote what that committee is all about!

Say I was totally against developing casement, well the last committee I would be on is the casement project committee/team!

Stands to sense if u ask me. Whats that saying, u can't run with the hare & hunt with the hounds! U r either for something or ur not.

Don't tell me ur surprised by this news?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 04, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on December 04, 2014, 11:01:21 AM
C11 I hear your colleagues have ousted GD from the Refs committee, well done use lads, as I said before Donkeys leading Lions! Im sure what comes around will go around.

Who are the lions ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2014, 09:57:18 PM
Now that is a question and a half SG.................but I would they wore khaki and were all called Tommy ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 04, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
Ah feck hardstation ur making it all v complicated which the casement saga is!

Maybe I shudve used a better example like, a player who trains all year and is v committed which he was, then He goes on the lash the night before champ game.

He is rightly dropped for he game.
He has let his teammates down and manager down and he doesn't know what he has done wrong! That is maybe more along the lines of what has happened, it is two fingers to those around u.

We in antrim always want to air our dirty linen in public. Yes there are falls outs in every committee but u can't just says things r crap, u have to be constructive in what u say and try to find ways to improve them.

Anyway moving on, there should be a decent turnout tomorrow night for night for Eddie FItz rip, proceeds are going to a great charity, hope it all goes well.
Has anyone heard the football panel for the McKenna cup?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 06, 2014, 12:33:12 AM
Lamh Dhearg team with Hands as captain  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on December 08, 2014, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on December 04, 2014, 11:01:21 AM
C11 I hear your colleagues have ousted GD from the Refs committee, well done use lads, as I said before Donkeys leading Lions! Im sure what comes around will go around.
Not before time many would say.  One less super ego to contend with I suppose!  Maybe the money in Antrim is not as readily forthcoming as it is in Doire??? Now is it all change, some change or no change at tonights convention?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 09, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
I hear Jim Murray gave an inspirational speech last night in his Chairmans report.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 10, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
The new manager in Cargin is an interesting one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2014, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 10, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
The new manager in Cargin is an interesting one.

Cargin For championship  ;)...... You had a championship winning manager and......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 10, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2014, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 10, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
The new manager in Cargin is an interesting one.

Cargin For championship  ;)...... You had a championship winning manager and......

Has to be their year MR2, St Galls are finished and with all the top players they have they are a cert for it Antrim Championship prediction 2015 (also see 2014,2013 etc...) lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 10, 2014, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 10, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
The new manager in Cargin is an interesting one.

Who is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 10, 2014, 02:59:28 PM
An ex Derry manager allegedly!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 10, 2014, 03:30:52 PM
I am intrigued and a bitt miffed.........nobody told me  :-[    Pray tell :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 10, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
Was hoping you might add the detail CB. Lots of rumours do the rounds at this time of the year. I'm sure you are well enough placed to get the low down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 10, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Nope, I remain in the dark but will investigate......... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on December 10, 2014, 05:20:30 PM
Can anyone shed light on the league structure next year? sticking with status quo?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on December 10, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
So who's this ex Derry Cargin manager? Paddy Crozier? McGuckian? Damien Barton? Damien Cassidy? Brian Mullins? None of the above?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on December 10, 2014, 05:20:30 PM
Can anyone shed light on the league structure next year? sticking with status quo?

Hope it stays the same... Cargin win the league and we win the.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on December 11, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: ck on December 10, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
So who's this ex Derry Cargin manager? Paddy Crozier? McGuckian? Damien Barton? Damien Cassidy? Brian Mullins? None of the above?

None of the above!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 11, 2014, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on December 11, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: ck on December 10, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
So who's this ex Derry Cargin manager? Paddy Crozier? McGuckian? Damien Barton? Damien Cassidy? Brian Mullins? None of the above?

None of the above!!

must be John Brennan, back for another spell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2014, 12:54:32 PM
Cargin have positively not made any managerial appointments as yet.............................hear that Mick O' Dwyer has expressed an interest....... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blueblood on December 12, 2014, 05:37:13 AM
I hear JC has taken up the managerial role at Newbridge CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2014, 04:46:25 PM
Don't think so blueblood.................that would be Dermot Dougan..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2014, 05:39:02 PM
So apart from the ex Derry manager CB, who else is in the mix for the Cargin hot seat?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on December 14, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 12, 2014, 05:39:02 PM
So apart from the ex Derry manager CB, who else is in the mix for the Cargin hot seat?
Ally McCoist, sure they would take anyone at the rite price  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
I remain in the dark as to any pending appointments at Cargin..........but Mr Mc Coist has been for an interview I am told
  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 14, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
I remain in the dark as to any pending appointments at Cargin..........but Mr Mc Coist has been for an interview I am told
  :-\

Well Cargin have a great traditional interest with the Old Firm, anytime I'm up there, there seems to be a lot of Scottish soccer tops about lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on December 14, 2014, 05:22:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 14, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
I remain in the dark as to any pending appointments at Cargin..........but Mr Mc Coist has been for an interview I am told
  :-\
Maybe some of the ageing/retired referees will put their names in the hat?  Given its bordering with Contae Doire,  the fees maybe a little more appealing?  Honey attracting bees like sh**e attracting flies.  The question is, are you a bee or a fly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: referee on December 14, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
John Brennan and D Craig as his no2,Brennan ousted at lavey apparently,some players were quitting if he remained,not suprised

Cargin Favs again it seems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2014, 06:40:30 PM
D craig as in "scaldy"?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 14, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: referee on December 14, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
John Brennan and D Craig as his no2,Brennan ousted at lavey apparently,some players were quitting if he remained,not suprised

Cargin Favs again it seems
Na, St Galls are favs for Ulster again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 14, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: referee on December 14, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
John Brennan and D Craig as his no2,Brennan ousted at lavey apparently,some players were quitting if he remained,not suprised

Cargin Favs again it seems
Na, St Galls are favs for Ulster again.

Think we'll settle to beat Cargin (or let Cargin beat themselves) every year ;) We've already done the other stuff, you should try it sometime
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 14, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 14, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: referee on December 14, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
John Brennan and D Craig as his no2,Brennan ousted at lavey apparently,some players were quitting if he remained,not suprised

Cargin Favs again it seems
Na, St Galls are favs for Ulster again.

Think we'll settle to beat Cargin (or let Cargin beat themselves) every year ;) We've already done the other stuff, you should try it sometime
I'm not from Cargin. But maybe you shouldn't settle for that every year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 14, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 14, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: referee on December 14, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
John Brennan and D Craig as his no2,Brennan ousted at lavey apparently,some players were quitting if he remained,not suprised

Cargin Favs again it seems
Na, St Galls are favs for Ulster again.

Think we'll settle to beat Cargin (or let Cargin beat themselves) every year ;) We've already done the other stuff, you should try it sometime
I'm not from Cargin. But maybe you shouldn't settle for that every year?

Yeah I'd settle for that every year, at present we don't have the players to go through Ulster, anyone with a bit of knowledge of local football would know that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
Sure u would MR2 , Cargin do remain as the only opposition to ur utter dominance on the domestic championship scene..........sure we have endured a lot of disappointments and have had to be content with a handful of senior titles and a lorry load of league titles, but despite those who continue to pen epitapths and anticipate their demise  u can be sure that they will look to 2015 with renewed vigour........
:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
And Crgin have NOT made any managerial appointments. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 14, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
Sure u would MR2 , Cargin do remain as the only opposition to ur utter dominance on the domestic championship scene..........sure we have endured a lot of disappointments and have had to be content with a handful of senior titles and a lorry load of league titles, but despite those who continue to pen epitapths and anticipate their demise  u can be sure that they will look to 2015 with renewed vigour........
:)

Vice versa I'm sure CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 17, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
Worst kept secret is out Mr Brennan is back in Toome........has it all to do in a tough assignment but he did lead them to back to back senior titles when last in charge......can he work the oracle again? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 17, 2014, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 17, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
Worst kept secret is out Mr Brennan is back in Toome........has it all to do in a tough assignment but he did lead them to back to back senior titles when last in charge......can he work the oracle again? ???

would one not suffice  :)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2014, 07:00:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 17, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
Worst kept secret is out Mr Brennan is back in Toome........has it all to do in a tough assignment but he did lead them to back to back senior titles when last in charge......can he work the oracle again? ???

How long ago was that?  Before the ban?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 18, 2014, 10:19:46 AM
Was 1999 and 2000 MR........ban was 01..........
???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 21, 2014, 07:35:48 PM
So we can anticipate county finals in Ahoghill, Creggan, Toome, and maybe even Milltown in the forseeable future!  :- :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2014, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 21, 2014, 07:35:48 PM
So we can anticipate county finals in Ahoghill, Creggan, Toome, and maybe even Milltown in the forseeable future!  :- :)

Well would be a tad unfair to have them at fortress Milltow Row ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on December 22, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
Club in Belfast seeking new senior team manager, if you are interested or know anyone that is interested please contact stiofan at vh_5150@hotmail.co.uk. Equally if you are looking for a new club please also contact the above address.

Many Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on December 27, 2014, 12:03:17 AM
Quote from: FullForward72 on December 22, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
Club in Belfast seeking new senior team manager, if you are interested or know anyone that is interested please contact stiofan at vh_5150@hotmail.co.uk. Equally if you are looking for a new club please also contact the above address.

Many Thanks

Which club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on December 28, 2014, 05:25:09 PM
Naomh Maolmhaodhog
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on December 29, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
Are st malachys division 4 this year fullforward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on December 29, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
I am not entirely sure SaffronHeart, speculation is that Ballycastle & Mitchels are withdrawing from ACFL, Naomh Una and Con Magees will not be fielding 2nd team next season, which leaves just Lisburn and Pearses. Leaves alot to the imagination, but as i say its just pure speculation, havn't a clue what will happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 30, 2014, 08:46:11 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on December 29, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
I am not entirely sure SaffronHeart, speculation is that Ballycastle & Mitchels are withdrawing from ACFL, Naomh Una and Con Magees will not be fielding 2nd team next season, which leaves just Lisburn and Pearses. Leaves alot to the imagination, but as i say its just pure speculation, havn't a clue what will happen

Ballycastle are a club I wish had a better football team, that catchment area could have a good div 3 team easily, have some good footballers as it is, if they could get passed the hurling/football tug of war, really unfortunate.

On the rest of the post, if that's true div 4 isn't really viable, a larger div 3 would be the way to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on December 31, 2014, 08:44:01 PM
I agree mac any time we have played the ballycastle lads up there they have always given a good account of themselves. As regards to the divisions i would prefer to see a larger div2 and div3. Does nobody any good yoyoing up and down leagues all the time. But again as I have already said its a complete guessing game as to what will happen! It seems a sensible course of action all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 01, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
Sensiblle action by the little guy who would be chairman............dream on :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 01, 2015, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on December 31, 2014, 08:44:01 PM
I agree mac any time we have played the ballycastle lads up there they have always given a good account of themselves. As regards to the divisions i would prefer to see a larger div2 and div3. Does nobody any good yoyoing up and down leagues all the time. But again as I have already said its a complete guessing game as to what will happen! It seems a sensible course of action all the same

if they did make a bigger div 2/3 it would also save the mess regarding Aghagallon going down. No relegation from div 2 and all remaining teams make up div 3, not rocket science but then again it is Antrim...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 04, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
Good one point win to start 2015 off. Was anyone at the game for a brief breakdown of the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 04, 2015, 10:16:49 PM
Yep, was one of the frozen observers at Creggan CS......poor game......against moderate opposition.......CJ as captain is a smart move I think......he had a good game as did Laverty who was my man of the match......Of the new boys on view Burke looked good as did Mc Aleer......long road ahead but FF is looking around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 04, 2015, 11:24:32 PM
Poor game, played a lot of sideways football with absolutely no ball into ff line in first half. Changed in 2nd half when Magill came on but when he was hit there's was nobody taking it off him and he ended up out near the 45. Personally I wouldn't have much optimism for the year but I'm in pessimistic mood these days. CJ with some compete scrapbook moments which took the pain of the £8 admission fee abit. Laverty, Burke,McAleer and Carron in patches for me, new goalkeeper top is a thing of beauty as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on January 05, 2015, 08:28:59 AM
What was the team/subs??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on January 05, 2015, 11:54:53 AM
It was an OK game overall, both teams had lots of men pulled back so there was a lot of rugby league stuff on display. We didn't break them down enough, or break enough tackle, though Laverty was good at that - like Loughrey lite - he can definitely come good this year. Took his goal very well. The goal was built on patience and passing, after a string of sideways and backwards passes CJ hit a beauty into Conor Murray and that opened them up. CJ was v influential in a deeper role, pulling strings looking for openings and encouraging those around him.

Walls was strong in goals, kick outs had distance if not much variety. Tony Scullion added a bit of stability when he came on for second half and Magill remains a solid option up front, the ball still sticks!

The match was worth going to - but oh man, is it ever warm at Creggan????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 05, 2015, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on January 05, 2015, 11:54:53 AM
It was an OK game overall, both teams had lots of men pulled back so there was a lot of rugby league stuff on display. We didn't break them down enough, or break enough tackle, though Laverty was good at that - like Loughrey lite - he can definitely come good this year. Took his goal very well. The goal was built on patience and passing, after a string of sideways and backwards passes CJ hit a beauty into Conor Murray and that opened them up. CJ was v influential in a deeper role, pulling strings looking for openings and encouraging those around him.

Walls was strong in goals, kick outs had distance if not much variety. Tony Scullion added a bit of stability when he came on for second half and Magill remains a solid option up front, the ball still sticks!

The match was worth going to - but oh man, is it ever warm at Creggan????

Seen Walls was in nets, thought it might have been a misprint does he not play around MF for LD? I thought Finnucene was LD keeper?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 05, 2015, 01:44:16 PM
CJ ran the show but Antrim were very lateral. Need runners in the Loughrey mould coming from deep which laverty did to his credit. If Russ could get Sean Kelly back he would be some addition especially if Antrim persist with this gameplan. Thought Burke was excellent and Magill eased himself into it...still a class act. Conor o'Rawe at corner back was out in front of his man every time the ball was kicked in, he is lightning quick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 05, 2015, 02:08:50 PM
fair point on kelly, if they going to play st galls football they will need more of their players.  Magill needs 2 or 3 options running off him from the hf line imo, players within a few yards everytime he wins the ball, yesterday he won the ball at the 20 and ended up out the 45 with it again.  Russ must have thought at ht they were under p when he took two new men to replace them with two older hands, Magill made a difference as the they hit the ball in which they didnt do in the first half and to be fair to Paddy McAleer i dont think Tony did anything more than he did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2015, 02:33:53 PM
How was Benny hasson as a target man? Did it not work in the first half?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 05, 2015, 02:38:29 PM
played him at midfield with Fleming and McNeill inside mostly and Johnston roving abit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Ah.

It's something we have struggled with for years having no one that the ball sticks to in there. Magill has been the only one who looks like a solution to the problem but historically doesn't seem to have stuck around. Hopefully that will change this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on January 05, 2015, 03:51:04 PM
Gerard Walls plays midfield for LD, but was previously a keeper for them (and an Irish league keeper too). Obviously FF knows him well from club football and sees him as a viable choice for keeper. Fair enough, he did well yesterday. Be good to have 2 reliable keepers on board (at least) come NFL. I assume Ronan Hanna will also be on the panel, did v well for U21s last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 06, 2015, 03:06:07 PM
Very poor game. That was as poor a Ranch team as i have viewed in a long time and yet if they had a reliable place kicker they would have won. Complete isolation of Fleming and McNeill in the first half, no direct ball to the FF line at all, must have been a hell of a cold stand for those 2 lads. We won the majority of possession at centrefield but insisted in lateral and backwards distribution, time and time again our half and full forwards making decent runs but having to check and check again because the ball wasn't coming in. Laverty at half back was the only player who showed ambition and confidence to break the tackle. TS looked liked he didnt care when he came on. Young O'Neill came on and his only contribution was to give away frees. Magill had an impact at FF in the second half but by that stage we had started to some quicker ball in. The down side of the faster ball was that our half forward had all withdrawn to midfield and there were no runners to feed off Magill. Early days but Russ has a lot of work to do. Lack of physicality still a problem which will take Mike McGurn alot more than a season to help. Would have thought getting him involved with our development squads would be a better long term plan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2015, 11:03:07 PM
Good positive post :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on January 07, 2015, 01:36:33 PM
Daft post too, to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 07, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
Not the most upbeat post right enough but I'll stand by my club mate in asking how it was daft Brendan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on January 07, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
OK so its all opinion, so here's mine.

"That was as poor a Ranch team as i have viewed in a long time...."  They were well drilled, fit, with some powerful runners. Lets see how they do overall. They won't win Sigerson or anything like it, but I thought they were decent.

"We won the majority of possession at centrefield but insisted in lateral and backwards distribution" - you could call that patient build up play. I get as frustrated as anyone with sideways passing, but whats the point in lumping it into a blanket defence? Our goal came on the back of about 20 passes in a row, most of them backwards or sideways. It paid off.

"TS looked liked he didnt care when he came on" - again thats a view but I just disagree. He made runs, sought the ball and provided a useful supply line to the half and full forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 07, 2015, 05:33:10 PM
No point having the head in the sand Milltown. Can only comment on what i saw, and i didn't see much that was positive. I will be back at Creggan on Sunday for the Armagh game so hopefully a more positive performance by the team will generate more positive comments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 07, 2015, 05:35:50 PM
Fair dues Brendan that's a better explanation and as you say it's all about opinions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 07, 2015, 05:33:10 PM
No point having the head in the sand Milltown. Can only comment on what i saw, and i didn't see much that was positive. I will be back at Creggan on Sunday for the Armagh game so hopefully a more positive performance by the team will generate more positive comments.

Well you can only judge it on what you seen I suppose but why not be a little constructive with the critique? We are 27th in the rankings, and to be fair we need to improve.... I cant remember us being in the teens even when we got to Ulster final!! We have the talent we just need to get them and everyone else behind it. I've been critical also of many campaign's when the start out but lets use these games for what they are..... Training matches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on January 09, 2015, 05:55:04 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 01, 2015, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on December 31, 2014, 08:44:01 PM
I agree mac any time we have played the ballycastle lads up there they have always given a good account of themselves. As regards to the divisions i would prefer to see a larger div2 and div3. Does nobody any good yoyoing up and down leagues all the time. But again as I have already said its a complete guessing game as to what will happen! It seems a sensible course of action all the same

if they did make a bigger div 2/3 it would also save the mess regarding Aghagallon going down. No relegation from div 2 and all remaining teams make up div 3, not rocket science but then again it is Antrim...


Just found out there this evening that we will be remaining in div3 therefore league restructuring is on the horizon lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 09, 2015, 06:39:41 PM
Any ideas on the restructure? Mitchells and Ballycastle not field teams then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 10, 2015, 11:27:29 PM
do the restructuring of leagues not require the authority of convention, and if gaining such do those not come into effect until the following year? only asking...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on January 11, 2015, 08:17:15 AM
I have no idea of the details of the restructure, i remember reading somewhere its a minimum of 14 games to be played for a league season so i would imagine if that cant be fulfilled then something would have to be done about it. On the convention point technically there would have to be a motion put forward however if the aforementioned point of minimum games is not fulfilled i think the county can basically do whatever they want, all should become clear after 19th january when the competition entries are processed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 11, 2015, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: FullForward72 on January 11, 2015, 08:17:15 AM
I have no idea of the details of the restructure, i remember reading somewhere its a minimum of 14 games to be played for a league season so i would imagine if that cant be fulfilled then something would have to be done about it. On the convention point technically there would have to be a motion put forward however if the aforementioned point of minimum games is not fulfilled i think the county can basically do whatever they want, all should become clear after 19th january when the competition entries are processed

What way do yoju think theyll do it out of interest FF? Just a 12 team div 3 and keep 1 and 2 as 10? probably the easiest to be honest. Only thing is looking at the way div 1 and 2 relegations finished up there are 2 teams who probably feel hard done by, maybe a 12 team div 1 10 div 2 and 10 div 3 would be an option? only problem being with that is you are giving 4 extra fixtures in the league where there are the most county players and therefore a smaller calendar. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on January 11, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
If it was up to me mac, 10 team div1 12 team div2 with last years relegated teams staying up and endas & paddies still going up. And then the rest into div3. If they want to keep div4 they will have to flood it with second teams who cant gain promotion, which would be counter productive as well. Only way it can be done as far as i can see!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 13, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
Seeding for senior football championship 2015...........bout time? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 13, 2015, 05:41:01 PM
Was at Armagh match on Sunday.

Poor performance although albeit we were not near full strength. Scored 2 good points from strong running Owen Gallagher in first half. 1st should have been a goal, blasted over. If had have side footed home with composure like a Sean Cavanagh would have looked an easy goal. Owen was one of very few fit to break a tackle unfortunately. Any time anyone faced a tackle they invariable turned towards our own goals and kicked the ball 20 metres backwards.

6-2 down at half time but with a big wind to come there was hope but alas 4 mins in the score was 1-8 to 0-2.

We are too negative.  A minor from last year came on, Ruari Scott from St Endas--he knows how to play football and took it on himself to launch a few balls in between the posts, into the full forward line, q danger and a penalty. No namby pamby outside of boot passes or hugging Jamie Clarke from him.

Tony Scullion was one of the better players, using power to break tackles and fit to stop a runner and tackle. Was hit more than once by J Clarke (who should've saw straight red, don't believe the shite in the papers) and did well not to react.

So called big names didn't want to really have a go and were happy to let their man get on the ball and score more than them from play but to the laughter of the crowd called on others to f'ing help tackle the one time they bothered to pretend to tackle themselves.

A lot of boys unsure what to do when got the ball. Magill isolated in FF and the only ball kicked to him was to the left touchline, useless. At least Scott may have kicked a ball into him had they been on at the same time. Need Magill on the ball with Tomas etc coming off him once the League starts.

That team is an absolute reserve team so cant be too critical but it was painful to watch us score 2 points a half, 2 from play.

Kerr did well in nets and was unlucky with the first goal, having made a great save from the original shot only for it to rebound to the same attacker.

Laverty was good in parts but carried into tackles a few times.

There wasn't much to hit up front granted but the backward kick passing was hard to watch.

The weather and pitches aren't great right now so the match may not have given a proper picture but Armagh didn't look great and wont be winning any Ulster or AI this year.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 13, 2015, 08:54:14 PM
Whats the point in playing McKenna Cup with reserves when you have to face top teams like Armagh and Tyrone who are playing first team players? It can be good experience for young lads but only if they are integrating into an almost first choice team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 13, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
Seeding for senior football championship 2015...........bout time? ???

Well it well help you lot getting to the final, even better chance now to win the championship ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2015, 09:13:22 AM
I take it Rossa and St Johns were 3rd and 4th in the league last year if they're seeded?

I'd have thought Lamh Dhearg and Creggan were 3rd and 4th best teams??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 14, 2015, 10:06:09 AM
Seeding for championship is according to finishing places in the 2014 league; 1 Cargin 2 Gall's 3 Creggan 4 Rossa.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 14, 2015, 10:26:15 AM
Just seen on the county website the make up of leagues and championships for next year. Def gonna be a Div 4, seems it was 1 up 1 down from div 3 with lisburn staying div 4. Mitchells and Ballycastle both fielding this year along with Glenravel 2nds and Aghagallon 2nds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2015, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 14, 2015, 10:06:09 AM
Seeding for championship is according to finishing places in the 2014 league; 1 Cargin 2 Gall's 3 Creggan 4 Rossa.....
Ah - I had read st johns and was wondering!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 14, 2015, 11:23:42 PM
Match refused for Sunday. Had the thermals with me and was ready to go after work too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 15, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
Draw for championship Monday. Hear four seeds to quarters, with 3 preliminary games and a bye.......then open draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on January 18, 2015, 04:14:29 PM
Tyrone beat Antrim 1-11 to 0-7.  They say winning "becomes a habit".  Cant wait for our habit to start!

Does getting beat also become a habit, which is more worrying?  Appears we don't do well under managers named Frank!

Bloody marvellous, eh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 18, 2015, 04:57:42 PM
Just back in from seeing QUB beat Derry. We had 4 playing and all did very well. But Ryan Murray was by a country mile the best player on the pitch. Simply unstoppable today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 18, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
Antrim dropped a lot of shots short on the goalies chest today... started well but fizzled out in second half. Hope there will be changes for the League opener.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2015, 07:05:33 PM
Relax Geteven, early days yet. That was half a team out today Tyrone are Division 1 and we are division 4. Promotion is the target who is the first game against? Championship will be interesting tomorrow night give players something to train for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 18, 2015, 07:42:07 PM
Carson, McVeigh  and Gallagher impressed today Who do you see coming in Saffron Heart?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2015, 08:17:45 PM
Quite alot Catch and Kick from players that will get league gametime, I can see Murray and Delargey from Queens plus McBride and Fitzpatrick from the Ranch, Johnston brothers plus mc keever from UUJ. Then Tomas, Kobo and maybe Mick??? Also Niblock and then then Mick Armstrong from Rossa. So its not all doom and gloom just yet. Bearing in mind most of the senior players are easing themselves into it. Would love to see Sean Kelly back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on January 18, 2015, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2015, 07:05:33 PM
Relax Geteven, early days yet. That was half a team out today Tyrone are Division 1 and we are division 4. Promotion is the target who is the first game against? Championship will be interesting tomorrow night give players something to train for.
What I have seen so far has been abysmal.  I would not be too sure this team is likely to get out of Div. 4 this year either.  Hate to say that, but I honestly, I think its going to be a long hard road for Antrim football.  Such negative, defensive football, and more importantly, the defence is still not porous and vulnerable.  Heavens above, but we are in a poor state presently!

Granted it is only McKenna Cup, but far from impressed or inspired.  Obviously none of our games will be featured on Sky this coming season, which "frankly" is understandable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 18, 2015, 09:20:23 PM
It would be good to see all those boys back in the fold, but with only 2 weeks to the opener, surely they would need to be back in before being considered - to be fair to the panel who have played in the McKenna?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2015, 09:25:53 PM
Dunno Catch and Kick its win at all costs, and the management know theyll need the senior players to stand up. The time for experimentation is over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 09:26:00 PM
St galls cargin first round!( well quarter final but their first game)

I thought seeding prevented this??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 09:30:38 PM
Unless my irish is letting me down- clan na heireann = cargin. Right?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
So Cargin won't reach final again?? Bummer ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 19, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Seeding Antrim style
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
I think cargin will have a better chance earlier on to be honest.

So seeding means best four are in quarter finals and no more. Do they not understand how a seeding system works??

Portglenone st teresas an interesting tie bs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 19, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Cargin certainly will have a better chance against Gall's in such stage, but I'f anyone ever had a doubt on the incompetence within those holding the reins take note.............they don't even know how to employ a seeding system..............seems the paid employee runs the show.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 19, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
So Cargin won't reach final again?? Bummer ;)
U could be right MR nothing is certain except the fact that the gate at the 2015 final will not be hard to lift  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
I think cargin will have a better chance earlier on to be honest.

So seeding means best four are in quarter finals and no more. Do they not understand how a seeding system works??

Portglenone st teresas an interesting tie bs.

Based on what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 10:30:39 PM
The last time they beat you it was in an earlier round. Also you'll have less prep time. Not saying they'll beat you but think they stand a better chance. I hope they do but that is only as i would like to see other teams win it. Would prefer they didn't win it either so beat you then get beat by someone else would suit me :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on January 19, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
Anyone able to post the full draw for all competitions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 10:42:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 10:30:39 PM
The last time they beat you it was in an earlier round. Also you'll have less prep time. Not saying they'll beat you but think they stand a better chance. I hope they do but that is only as i would like to see other teams win it. Would prefer they didn't win it either so beat you then get beat by someone else would suit me :)

First round after wed lost All Ireland final.... Minds probably not focused and Cargin had decent manager in JC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2015, 10:48:41 PM
This draw is another balls up and if they dont admit it then i give up. Its clear Cargin were ment to be D in the draw and the winners of prelim 1 were to play st galls. I f**king swear this county brings me to tears. A prelim is a prelim and not a first round so basically the top two seeds in county meet in first round. It it obviously an honest mistake but for f@#k sake own up at earliest possible chance like right away and sort it out.

I bet they spemd next few days coverong their backs and making up rules to prove it was a fair draw. Jesus wept
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Relax.. Jim & Joe will sort everything out and all peace will be restored until somebody appeals about the junior hurling or the junior football championship and so called big teams in that having to be kicked out as the wee teams aren't gettin a chance!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 20, 2015, 07:20:24 AM
How do people expect Antrim to get things right on the field if they can't get things right off it?

Farcical situation with that draw , however in my opinion it should not have been seeded in the first  place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2015, 07:29:37 AM
Antrim board. The gift that keeps on giving. You couldn't make it up!  And people wonder why no one wants to have anything to do with these clowns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on January 20, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
You'd swear it was the end of the world with an open draw, a level playing field. Great draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2015, 09:26:51 AM
there was 4 seeded and 7 unseeded. 3v3 in the preliminary meaning the 3 would go into playing the 4 seeds along with the 1 team who was lucky enough to avoid the prelim round.

easy fuking peasy. but no. not on your nelly could Antrim county board do that. naw they fuked it up and came with some silly excuse on twitter about the preliminary rounds messing it up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2015, 05:04:14 PM
Portglenone man John Mc Keever appointed as manager of Ballinderry Shamrocks, one of the most prestigious club jobs in Ulster Football.

That's on top of two of our other club men managing in the same division - Kevin Madden at Dungiven and Brian Burns at Banagher.

And Gareth Kelly is in the hot seat at Moneyglass. That's a fair representation from any club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 20, 2015, 05:18:53 PM
Portglenone will be the worse off, losing their expertise to clubs prepared to remunerate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2015, 05:26:08 PM
Some of them are good club men helping out whenever they can with coaching juveniles etc. Don't worry all that expertise will end up in the club at some stage. Why would anyone begrudge them a chance to go on and further themselves as coaches or managers if that's what they love doing? I have been round a few good clubs myself and have some of my best football memories out of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on January 20, 2015, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 20, 2015, 05:04:14 PM
Portglenone man John Mc Keever appointed as manager of Ballinderry Shamrocks, one of the most prestigious club jobs in Ulster Football.

That's on top of two of our other club men managing in the same division - Kevin Madden at Dungiven and Brian Burns at Banagher.

And Gareth Kelly is in the hot seat at Moneyglass. That's a fair representation from any club!

That Brian Burns as in Down and Bryansford?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 20, 2015, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 20, 2015, 05:26:08 PM
Why would anyone begrudge them a chance to go on and further themselves as coaches or managers if that's what they love doing? I have been round a few good clubs myself and have some of my best football memories out of it.

Oh .. thats the reason they're doing it? I've obviously been listening to too much Brolly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2015, 06:13:36 PM
A bit of a broad stroke there Skull. One turned down quite a lot more money elsewhere and another didn't ask for anything for himself at all. Don't believe all you read!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
Same man Down Fanatic. A gentleman too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 20, 2015, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 20, 2015, 06:13:36 PM
A bit of a broad stroke there Skull. One turned down quite a lot more money elsewhere and another didn't ask for anything for himself at all. Don't believe all you read!

I'll take that advice right now!  ;D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 20, 2015, 08:21:28 PM
Bannside what did Moneyglass see that ur own club didn't?!
Good luck to john big challange for any man!
It's a pity yous didn't keep one of ur own instead of paying an outsider!
Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2015, 10:19:03 PM
Our club dosent pay anyone Culchie  but a local sponsor has stepped in with the usual going rate expenses lol!

Gareth going to Moneyglass is interesting. He has a lot of motivation to prove that Portglenone were wrong to overlook him. A good lad who will give it all he has. Hopefully it will be good enough.

John has a tough job. There are no prizes for second around the Lough Shore. Lose a county final by a point and it's a downright failure of a season. But he is on a great upward curve in management/ coaching terms and this has not gone unnoticed by the Ballinderry observers who are never far off the mark.

A lot of eyes in Portglenone will be on the Derry league this year that's for sure!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 21, 2015, 12:43:25 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 19, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Relax.. Jim & Joe will sort everything out and all peace will be restored until somebody appeals about the junior hurling or the junior football championship and so called big teams in that having to be kicked out as the wee teams aren't gettin a chance!!

like yourself your point is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2015, 09:13:22 AM
Senior Championship draw is really interesting this year. St Galls getting Cargin at an early stage means they will be getting  their show on the road just that bit earlier than usual.

None of the other 6 clubs in the other half of the draw will be terrified of each other, so  every club in that half will be giving themselves a chance of getting to a final.

All to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2015, 09:20:57 AM
Are all the managers now in place? Here's a quick guess as it stands. Please affirm if incorrect.
St Galls - Carl Mc Cabe
St John's - Peter McKeever
Lamh Dhearg?
Rossa?
Creggan - Paul Mellon
Ahoghill - Colm Graham/Paul Bradley
Casements - Paddy Mc Neill
Aldergrove -James Mc Grath
Cargin - John Brennan
St Teresas - Liam Mc Goldrick


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2015, 09:35:33 AM
It's often the case that the hardest job to get is your own club.  Gareth case is far from unique, especially in the case of a young manager cutting his teeth at senior level. But all the great managers have to start somewhere.

Look at my previous post for example. Only two of those eight are club men.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 21, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
to be honest if it were me i would strive to contribute to the under age set up if i didnt get a post. i wont lie, not one penny could make me take another team. i wouldn't have the passion that i have for my own club.

but that just my opinion. i know Gareth as well and he's a good guy so good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 21, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
As you say, that's you. But some folk are more passionate and in some cases very ambitious and need or aspire to be involved in football at that level, if their own club has decided to ignore their approach, you would agree that the alternative is to manage another club team?

I think this is being slightly naive and maybe a little rose tinted. This is the culture that has grown up around the GAA in recent times.

Ambitious to achieve what? to earn what?

If your club doesn't want you as senior manager, there are countless teams to be involved in down the grades in your own club, that is unless it is more about the ego of the individual than it is about actually coaching.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2015, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 21, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
As you say, that's you. But some folk are more passionate and in some cases very ambitious and need or aspire to be involved in football at that level, if their own club has decided to ignore their approach, you would agree that the alternative is to manage another club team?

I think this is being slightly naive and maybe a little rose tinted. This is the culture that has grown up around the GAA in recent times.

Ambitious to achieve what? to earn what?

If your club doesn't want you as senior manager, there are countless teams to be involved in down the grands in your own club, that is unless it is more about the ego of the individual than it is about actually coaching.

So if you want to get into SENIOR management but your own club won't have you what do you do? Who's to say any of these fellas don't help out at underage or have done for years? People can play and be involved in underage so have learnt their trade. AFAIK the fella here was involved in their under 21s.

Senior is entirely different from underage.

As much as one person can have rose tinted glasses someone else can be a bit on the other side too...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 21, 2015, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 09:25:54 AM
Skull, if you apply for your own club job, which seems to be the case here with Portglenone (reading the posts it seems it is a gentleman called Gareth) and didn't get it, do you expect him to not take a senior football team somewhere else? Is that it for his interest to develop his management skills at senior level?

I'm very much of the opinion that that expertise should be put to good use within the club. There'll always be a team in any club that will benefit from that ambition to be a better coach. Very few clubs have the luxury of too many coaches but in the event that was the case, and they wanted to develop their skills, there's always development squads that would be all the better for it. Strange the way there are so many "ambitious" coaches out there who want to develop their skills, yet development squad mentors are so hard to find? Why is that  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 21, 2015, 12:20:45 PM
i don't know what people want to achieve in GAA management here? i mean there's no job at the end of it that means you can ditch your 9-5 existence. Christ if that were the case i could be worth a fair penny with what i do! lol



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 21, 2015, 12:42:55 PM
National League progress is the most important issue for county and clubs now. Antrim need to get out of Div 4 - another year there and it will become a graveyard for future teams. No wins in the McKenna Cup but at least plenty of players tried. Any ideas what the starting fifteen should be for the opener.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 21, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 12:26:47 PM
Jez, skull development squads meet about once every couple of weeks and IMO a waste of bloody time for everybody. I'm talking about management, not coaching

What is it about coaching a team that leaves one unfulfilled as a person as opposed to managing a team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 21, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Lads just to clear it up the fella in question managed/coached stinsons minors this last few years, was involved with portglenone u21s and reserves also and last year was part of the successful intermediate championship winning management team!
Natural progression would be to take the reins as senior manager!
I for one don't blame him for going elsewhere to gain senior management experience.
The question for some clubs is what would u pay for success?
The man portglenone installed as manager was turned down by his original native club as he was looking too much expenses!
Who is right and who is wrong?!
I don't buy it that a sponsor is payin a manager as his services r still come at a cost! Did the se sponsor think the previous manager who got the team promoted and won int champ wasn't worth it anymore, is the tail wagging the dog in this instance?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 21, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 12:26:47 PM
Jez, skull development squads meet about once every couple of weeks and IMO a waste of bloody time for everybody. I'm talking about management, not coaching

What is it about coaching a team that leaves one unfulfilled as a person as opposed to managing a team?

There can be a person who is best qualified as a coach and another as a coach... But I see that at senior level in fairness. Having taken all manner of teams within my club, the most demanding was the under 12's!!!! Four years of organising tournament s heading to tournaments playing the league games and keeping parents happy to lol, and all this on your own. Give me senior post any day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 21, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 21, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
As you say, that's you. But some folk are more passionate and in some cases very ambitious and need or aspire to be involved in football at that level, if their own club has decided to ignore their approach, you would agree that the alternative is to manage another club team?

I think it comes down to who you are and how much your club is in your heart or not, regardless of how many juvenile teams you have taken in the past with your own club. 

It seems to me that there are two motivations for people taking other club teams and both can be very much intertwined:
a) Money (prostitute syndrome)
b) Ego

Not one penny would take me away from my club and I would never in a trillion years take another club team.  I'd sooner take our P1 teams than take another club's senior teams.  Why? Because that's what we do or supposed to rather.  If you are looking outside of your club for a challenge then get involved at county level.  Clubs are about a collection of human beings willing to get together, represent their communities to make them better places to live through the aims and objectives of the association.  Put simply in my book, that means to give your full commitment to the club (and county) and to develop good people at all age groups from P1 to Senior and when you have completed one full year of doing that, do it again and again.

Wanting a so-called 'Challenge' is cover for wanting an your ego massaged or in your case it sounds like you're throwing your dummy out of the pram regardless of what you termed as
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 12:24:29 PMno hard feelings

Ambition to me is code for Individualism.


What if they have ambitions for county management one day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 21, 2015, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on January 21, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Lads just to clear it up the fella in question managed/coached stinsons minors this last few years, was involved with portglenone u21s and reserves also and last year was part of the successful intermediate championship winning management team!
Natural progression would be to take the reins as senior manager!
I for one don't blame him for going elsewhere to gain senior management experience.
The question for some clubs is what would u pay for success?
The man portglenone installed as manager was turned down by his original native club as he was looking too much expenses!
Who is right and who is wrong?!
I don't buy it that a sponsor is payin a manager as his services r still come at a cost! Did the se sponsor think the previous manager who got the team promoted and won int champ wasn't worth it anymore, is the tail wagging the dog in this instance?!

This sentence alone would put me off even talking to said person about becoming involved in my club at any level.

Lets just be frank open and honest about it for a change, if clubs werent offering the money to these mercenaries then there would be very few making the journey around the circuit in Ulster to do these jobs.

That's the plain and simple fact, you can dress it up any way you want to. He wants to test himself as a coach, he wants to have progression at the top level etc etc etc - End of the day it boils down to the brown envelope at the end of the session.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2015, 02:18:11 PM
he who?

do you generalise much?

is every outside manager looking money? are you sure about every one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 21, 2015, 02:20:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 21, 2015, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on January 21, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Lads just to clear it up the fella in question managed/coached stinsons minors this last few years, was involved with portglenone u21s and reserves also and last year was part of the successful intermediate championship winning management team!
Natural progression would be to take the reins as senior manager!
I for one don't blame him for going elsewhere to gain senior management experience.
The question for some clubs is what would u pay for success?
The man portglenone installed as manager was turned down by his original native club as he was looking too much expenses!
Who is right and who is wrong?!
I don't buy it that a sponsor is payin a manager as his services r still come at a cost! Did the se sponsor think the previous manager who got the team promoted and won int champ wasn't worth it anymore, is the tail wagging the dog in this instance?!

This sentence alone would put me off even talking to said person about becoming involved in my club at any level.

Lets just be frank open and honest about it for a change, if clubs werent offering the money to these mercenaries then there would be very few making the journey around the circuit in Ulster to do these jobs.

That's the plain and simple fact, you can dress it up any way you want to. He wants to test himself as a coach, he wants to have progression at the top level etc etc etc - End of the day it boils down to the brown envelope at the end of the session.

thats where the GAA is going badly wrong. a club who pays someone to take their team has to look hard at itself and the lack of confidence it has in its existing coaches. i dont mind a team fund raising to get some additional help for equipment, sessions with someone etc but for some one to take them? not a chance.

our club will not pay for anyone to manage them and i hope this continues. there's plenty of good people within each club that if given a chance could do a job, we should never look beyond those in our clubs who want to do a job. to go outside is, well an insult to members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on January 21, 2015, 02:37:05 PM
Interesting debate, can I provide you all with a very good example of a club that has used outside managers exclusively to get success, and the reason it seems to me that they used outside managers, and very good outside men, was because the quality of coaches they had in the club was not up to the mark. This process of developing their senior team has taken fifteen years and the result has been an Ulster senior club football title i.e. Slaughtneil Why they hadn't the quality is another debate, but as a result of this approach they now have players at the upper end of their careers who when they retire will be able to take their own club, due to the expertise that they have been fortunate to have experienced. The Slaughtneil model that has reaped big rewards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 21, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: shawshank on January 21, 2015, 02:37:05 PM
The Slaughtneil model that has reaped big rewards.

How'd did all the other teams who applied the same model get on?  ???

No ones doubting that a great coach benefits a team, but lets not be thinking that the primary reason the outside man is doing it is so he can develop and grow as a coach. They see the demand in the marketplace that has developed and they fulfill the desire of those clubs who think they can spend their way to success. It works out that way for some, but lets not be thinking that the means justifies the end.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 21, 2015, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 21, 2015, 12:43:25 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 19, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Relax.. Jim & Joe will sort everything out and all peace will be restored until somebody appeals about the junior hurling or the junior football championship and so called big teams in that having to be kicked out as the wee teams aren't gettin a chance!!

like yourself your point is irrelevant.

Hardy irrelevant. It's another example of the confusion that reigns every year with championships and leagues at the hands of the county board with the rumours of competitions changing.

Maybe I should ask you before I post in future?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2015, 03:36:08 PM
This is definitely an interesting debate. Of the eight clubs I know of in Antrim division one, 75% are paying "expenses" to outside managers. I'd go as far as to say that is the norm across the whole country.

In a lot of cases these managers were " head hunted" by clubs. The man we got didn't come to us - we went to him. He told us what he needed in lieu of the sacrifices he would make to do the job, and we thought it was reasonable in terms with our ambitions, and a local sponsor stepped up to ease the pain.


Of course there are many who are still against paying anything, and would prefer a local who was prepared to do it for nothing.

That's the crux of what needs to be a national debate. At the minute what we do is reflective of the vast majority of clubs.

Now there is also the case of the manager who sees his ability as a trade which can earn money in the free market, and others who realise that the only way to get a crack at a really big job (like a county job) then maybe the best way to do this is deliver a big championship win with a big club that might not be your own. There's all sorts of reasons why people manage outside their own clubs. Money yes, also ego, pride, enjoyment, etc.

But I'd say most of all its the challenge you present to yourself after the pride of being appointed has settled down.Can I do this this or not? The feeling you get when you do is memorable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 21, 2015, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 21, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
As you say, that's you. But some folk are more passionate and in some cases very ambitious and need or aspire to be involved in football at that level, if their own club has decided to ignore their approach, you would agree that the alternative is to manage another club team?

I think it comes down to who you are and how much your club is in your heart or not, regardless of how many juvenile teams you have taken in the past with your own club. 

It seems to me that there are two motivations for people taking other club teams and both can be very much intertwined:
a) Money (prostitute syndrome)
b) Ego

Not one penny would take me away from my club and I would never in a trillion years take another club team.  I'd sooner take our P1 teams than take another club's senior teams.  Why? Because that's what we do or supposed to rather.  If you are looking outside of your club for a challenge then get involved at county level.  Clubs are about a collection of human beings willing to get together, represent their communities to make them better places to live through the aims and objectives of the association.  Put simply in my book, that means to give your full commitment to the club (and county) and to develop good people at all age groups from P1 to Senior and when you have completed one full year of doing that, do it again and again.

Wanting a so-called 'Challenge' is cover for wanting an your ego massaged or in your case it sounds like you're throwing your dummy out of the pram regardless of what you termed as
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 12:24:29 PMno hard feelings

Ambition to me is code for Individualism.

Steady on! A few good points in here but a bit extreme.
There's no right or wrong here. There's undoubtedly the money grabbers/egos who are motivated by the wrong thing. And there is the loyal club man who is as genuine as the day is long. There are loads in between that circumstances have dictated why they are were they are. In the case of my own club we HAD to get an outside man as there literally was no-one internally suited/qualified or interested.
You can have your ideals but when you are faced with the prospect of not having a manager then ideals can slip.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 21, 2015, 06:05:21 PM
I think many  of the comments about outside managers are misplaced.
Sometimes it is because of jealousy (I could do a better job!), sometimes regret (hadn't the guts to put head above the parapet) and often because of a desire to cling to principles - no were is this a more common trait than in the six counties...nothing worse than a principled man..
The reasons for appointing outside managers could be any of:

The outsider is an excellent coach who would benefit the team long term and not just in regard to winning one county title.
The players no longer are responding to the same old voices in the club - a fresh approach is needed.
There are no suitable candidates within the club. The games and preparation have moved on and many of our internal coaches have not.
Many senior players have experienced top coaching in university and other sports; they know what is required and are not prepared to commit the most valuable resource of all, their time, to 'a mickey mouse' set up.

Why would a GAA coach go to another club?
Experience
To Improve
because he has been too long involved and wants a change.
Few bob.

Why would a club pay an outside coach?
To cover his expenses.
To cover his time - he can't be expected to do it for nothing, he has a skill set that many think they have but their track record doesn't back that up!

What payment are we talking about?
In most cases these coaches are genuine and are happy for a very modest return.
I know some who have coached outside teams for naught.
Others are pure money grabbers.
Some are highly successful and given a decent squad and make massive difference.

I've spent my life coaching in my own club from juvenile to senior, at county level and never received a penny. I find the lazy comment of posters and journalists (esp Eugene mcGee) hard to listen to. They make so many assumptions.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2015, 07:07:59 PM
Brilliant Post C&K. Just about sums it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 09:54:47 PM
Would it be the difference for us having outside managers?? We won all Ireland with home grown manager..... But we've won many a championship with 'outside' managers.... We've never had hurling manager from outside... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 21, 2015, 10:26:54 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 21, 2015, 09:35:44 PM
The association has rules for a reason. The payment of managers is illegal because the membership agreed it to be wrong and unfair. When we use terms like, "it's ok having ideals but..." then its a slippery slope.

We all like to win but it goes against who we are and what we are about. Is it win at all costs at the expense of the club stalwart who sells 20 lottos per week or is it about pride in YOUR club? Winning and losing with YOUR club from the corner forward to the manager to the chairperson.

Once one club pays one manager to manage them while another wants to do it the right way, then it becomes unfair and wrong especially if the first club has a bigger financial income.

Of course, at intercounty and in structural levels of the GAA, they have set down horrible precedents but if values and ideals can't be copperfastened and held up at community level then we are f.ucked!!

Slippery slope or not, what would you suggest our club do when we had no manager? No-one stepped forward despite advertising, head hunting, begging ex players. No-one had the time, no-one had the interest. Had we not offered expenses, we would be managerless. Fact!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on January 21, 2015, 10:28:23 PM
Interesting posts, I think everyone knows that even ourselves have taken into appointing outside managers for the last few years and it has reaped serious dividends for us, its ok having plenty of mentors/coaches/juveniles but what if you dont??? Our senior team had to get by for the best part of 15 years with very little kids coming through, alot of our players had never been coached properly before so we were stuck in the doldrums as a result. 2 years ago we brought in an outside manager and in 2 years we contested a beringer cup final and a championship final, last year with another outside manager we won the championship and beat teams in the league we would have never imagined beating 5 years previous.

Having outside managers has showed us how far we were behind and it has give us the kick up the backside we've needed for so long, watching from the sidelines I feel indebted to the 2 managers who have came in and progressed us so quickly in 3 years, as regards to if they were paid or not i couldnt tell you, im only a spectator! :)

But outside managers arent all that bad!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 21, 2015, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: ck on January 21, 2015, 10:26:54 PM
Slippery slope or not, what would you suggest our club do when we had no manager? No-one stepped forward despite advertising, head hunting, begging ex players. No-one had the time, no-one had the interest. Had we not offered expenses, we would be managerless. Fact!

Plenty of clubs would not be short of coaching resource if all the 'outside men' stayed at home and coached within their club. I keep going back to a club in Tipp we visited a few years ago who that year had 15, yes 15 club men who decided to develop themselves as coaches/managers with other clubs rather than help with their juvenile teams. They mustn't have realised that they were absolutely threadbare at juvenile level with a few mentors covering two teams.

   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 21, 2015, 11:18:30 PM
Explain in the context of my last reply how you've came to that conclusion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 22, 2015, 08:56:09 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 21, 2015, 10:48:27 PM
Skull you have not taken in one word any of the posters have posted here who have very honestly described why they took on outside managers. I hope your not a marriage guidance councillor.

his last post was pretty easy to understand. the 15 people went else where to get experience and try their hand at managing elsewhere. it left their own club with next to nothing to coach at under-age thus having a knock on effect on the future of a club.

i get people wanting to manage at senior level, ive been involved in it, its grand but its not all that its cracked up to be. From being involved now in the under-age i wouldn't look anywhere else. the future development of your owns clubs future is much more important that individual ambitions IMO.

also this is where you get the future potential sneior management. those who have grafted and moulded the youth to the highest skill levels and attended CPDs/seminars and did the ground work within a club.

An outsider can walk away if it goes tits up after a season and not care how the team does the following season. could a local club man say the same?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on January 22, 2015, 04:55:41 PM
My club started going to outside management at senior level about 15 years ago. The reason being we had no coaches in house who were of the standard to manage at the top level, plus we had a serious attitude issue with players not listening to in house coaches. We needed to make the transformational jump from intermediate to senior, and the thought (in hindsight, correct thought) was to go external to drive the team though the transformation.

We went outside and the club has elevated to senior level and all the senior players have now experienced good coaching so we have now developed our capability for the future.

At the same time, the club has really invested in underage coaching and we are reaping the results as we are now competitive at both hurling and football in underage.

The really interesting thing is, the underage coaches generally have a passion for and want want to coach underage, and are not interested in the senior job. So we now have a stable structure of dedicated underage pool of coaches doing a really good job and outside senior management. However, I believe that sooner rather than later, we will start the pipeline of really good in-house senior managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 22, 2015, 05:49:45 PM
There is only one criteria for selecting a senior coach.
It isn't whether he is a club man or an outsider.
Simple reality - is he good enough?
No one minds where he is from if he can make a difference. Ideally a club man but sometimes that's not enough. Then it's right to go outside.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2015, 09:39:47 AM
that says more about a club and its structures in coaching more so.

its time to look at doing some work on your existing coaches to bring them up to scratch because if they aint good enough this year what's going to change with them in a year to make them any better?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 23, 2015, 10:57:12 AM
There's nothing like a broad mix of coaching/management experiences to enhance your all round ability in this field.

I have done the lot tbh - lots of years with club juveniles at all the age groups, as well as managing club seniors on top of a period outside managing at some top clubs in Derry. Throw in a good few years with county squads U-16 to U-21 for good measure!!

Then I'm back to the club again a better all rounded coach/manager, Chipping in with minors again and club reserve teams or whatever needs doing.

That's the block well covered and I don't regret any of it. Lots of good (and some not so good lol) days with them all which I wouldn't change if starting again.

But yes, it starts and finishes with your own club that's for sure.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 23, 2015, 08:51:14 PM
Interesting debate here. I don't think anyone is wrong on this.

What would your views be on the likes of Frank Dawson. Practically disowned by his club St.Galls (for reasons beyond me) and has been around several clubs since incl a disasterous year with Antrim. Would you regard him as an ego maniac? A man who likes a challenge? Highly sought after? Money man? Journey man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 23, 2015, 09:11:41 PM
Mostly what you find is that it's the clubs who come knocking your door - you rarely go chasing it. Actually Frank Dawson has a great reputation in Down football. Literally one club after the next goes looking for him and I know for a fact that foe a considerable time he was on the shortlist for Down county manager.

Frank has his own reasons why he likes to top up his revenue stream - but if clubs are willing to reimburse generously then why refuse!

He dosent seem to get the same respect in his own club, but that's very often the case. Maybe he does have a right old ego at him, but that is kinda par for the course in the trade...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
He managed teams at club... No biggie really. Lenny managed teams before taking club team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2015, 12:56:15 AM
Fair enough Milltown but in St Galls where does the credit go? PJ and Sean Mc Gourty and no doubt a dozen others for taking juveniles when they were 8-18 or Lenny coming in and doing the business when he had a ready made team of all stars (in a club sense).

As far as I know Lenny did one year, maybe two, and got the lads across the line. But talking to St Galls people it was a mixture of families, great quality football breeding (it does help) and at the final push, an astute and quality manager like Lenny.

I'd say it was a combination of all of those which contributed to the making of one superb all round football machine.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2015, 01:05:03 AM
They say in darts you need to lose one to win one. What about John Rafferty?  When St Galls beat a Nemo team in the semi in 06 they looked a complete team to me, only to shoot themselves in the foot in the final. But despite that many will not credit Rafferty for lining the club up.

Hey it all depends who you talk to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2015, 01:23:11 AM
Going back to John Rafferty in 2006 and I said it on this forum a few years back ...but... St Galls performance in beating a Nemo team with 8 Cork senior panelists who didn't score from play until the 43rd minute. It was a sublime performance but not sure if John Rafferty ever got the credit for it.

And the same man got lambasted by many in the club when they lost the final despite the fact that they kicked a hundred wides.

So while Lenny got the business done, really, how many in the club would have contributed to this success?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 24, 2015, 08:28:50 AM
And how then would you rate our current county management as we set out in the NFL!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
I was involved (well involved myself as Raff was a gent) in all that training leading up to Xmas before the Nemo game... His preseason stuff excellent his winter stuff brilliant. I firmly believe that Raff was the catalyst for that team.... Granted we had exceptional youngsters coming through and after relegation we brought in Culbert who gave the kids a chance, the rest is history.

I agree with you that the effort put in at St Pats home on the glen road (our pitch was closed 2 years) was brill.. Liam Stewart had a vision along with others you have mentioned to build a great set of juveniles who maybe one day win some championships again..

Lenny either by chance astute management or a combination of a mature team and timing got it right...

As for John he's was a massive club man when he played for us, man was driven as a player and more so as a manager...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2015, 10:07:11 AM
Yes I have always admired John Rafferty around a team. So much so I invited him to speak to a team I was managing before they played the Derry county final. And he was awesome.

Lenny might have been in the right place at the right time, but can't be faulted for getting the job done. In doing so he has created a reputation that will stick for a long time.

Having said that there is also the theory that the real driving force in St Galls is a core group of players, led by Sean Kelly, who are the real reason for so much success, and managers there are merely facilitators!

And to balance that point I also know that the current manager is maybe the best thought of all the managers St Galls have had in recent years.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 24, 2015, 02:17:32 PM
That's very interesting. Wasn't aware of the influence of John rafferty at all.
Wasnt James McCartan manager at one stage too? Would he have contributed to the side before Lenny put icing on cake?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
Good win for st johns over omagh in the u21 ulster tournament. Mcbride mom- sounds like a decent prospect.

Ck i think mccartan was post ai.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2015, 03:57:19 PM
Good win for the Johnnies.

James Mc Cartan is quoted as saying that he couldn't manage St Galls. They practically managed themselves!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 24, 2015, 10:18:10 PM
Would be very surprised if st johns don't win a Senior football championship within the next 5 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on January 24, 2015, 10:18:10 PM
Would be very surprised if st johns don't win a Senior football championship within the next 5 years

Are you serious??  They struggle with relegation ffs!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 25, 2015, 09:52:39 AM
For me Rafferty was the best manager we have had in recent years and would be welcomed back with open arms any time.
Some good managers over the past decade who added certain elements to the team which when all added together resulted in the ultimate . I include Paul Duffin , mc cartan, and Lenny in that but for me it was Rafferty who installed the belief, intensity and mental toughness to gel it all together .
Have to agree, especially in recent years a group of players have had an influence on proceedings. Good thing or not? Is this because they were/are allowed to ?. I know this certainly wasn't the case with Raff and I think mc cartan got a bit of a raw deal.

In recent years we have got past round one of ulster once and I believe this could have been avoided very easily .
All in all, despite achieving the ultimate I believe this group of players will look back and wonder what if in years to come. No complaints for what they have achieved and the effort they put in from all at the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on January 25, 2015, 11:28:32 AM
With you on that one MR2, let's keep this a Johnnies free zone :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 25, 2015, 11:54:57 AM
Panel for the NFL:
1. Justin Crozier CARGIN 2. Michael Mc Cann CARGIN 
3. Tony Scullion 
CARGIN 
4. James Laverty 
CARGIN 
5. Tomas Mc Cann 
CARGIN 
6. Martin Kane 
CARGIN 
7. John Carron
CARGIN 
8. Chris Kerr
ST GALLS 
9. CJ Mc Gourty 
ST GALLS 
10. Connor Burke 
ST GALLS 
11. Micheal Pollock 
ST GALLS 
12. Niall O'Neill 
ST GALLS 
13. Ruairi Wilson 
ST GALLS 
14. Conor Murray 
LAMH DHEARG 
15. Declan Lynch 
LAMH DHEARG 
16. Gerard Walls 
LAMH DHEARG 
17. Ryan Murray 
LAMH DHEARG 
18. Niall McKeever
PORTGLENONE 
19. Niall Delargy 
PORTGLENONE 
20. Dermott Mc Aleese
PORTGLENONE
21. Sean McVeigh 
ALL SAINTS 
22. Paddy McAleer 
ALL SAINTS 
23. Emmet Killough 
ALL SAINTS 
24. Patrick McBride 
ST JOHN'S
25. Conor Johnston 
ST JOHN'S
26. Mathew Fitzpatrick 
ST JOHN'S
27. Michael Armstrong
ROSSA 
28. Chris McGuinness 
ROSSA 
29. Eamon Mc Neill 
RASHARKIN 
30. Benny Hasson 
RASHARKIN 
31. Mark Sweeney 
ST JUDE'S
32. Niall Peoples
ST PAUL'S 
33. Ruairi Scott 
ST ENDA'S
34. Owen Gallagher 
GLENAVY 
35. Ronan Mc Grady 
ST BRIGIDS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 25, 2015, 09:11:51 PM
Any players not here who arguably should?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: ck on January 25, 2015, 09:11:51 PM
Any players not here who arguably should?

Only noticing michael magill not on it. That's disappointing as no target man now. Paddy cunningham not there either though to be honest he's more backup these days.

Mainly retirements aside from that ck so none too contentious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
Hopefully the two missing Kevins will join up too at some stage. Both class acts we will need at some stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
And Bam Neeson too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 25, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
What about the st teresas lads ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 25, 2015, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: ck on January 25, 2015, 09:11:51 PM
Any players not here who arguably should?

Only noticing michael magill not on it. That's disappointing as no target man now. Paddy cunningham not there either though to be honest he's more backup these days.

Mainly retirements aside from that ck so none too contentious.

Magill not selected or not want to play? Agree re the lack of target man, which when on form he certainly was.

Cunningham not selected?

Are the two Kevins injured or taking a break?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on January 26, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
Referee,  magill and o boyle where best on show the first final and granted did not do a great deal in the 2nd final.  He also fitted in well with cargin and had two great league campaigns.
He did not join cargin to get county football so go easy with your loose tongue esp being a Randalstown man.

He trained all pre season and stated in the irish news was moving well - issue here is solely Fitz did not see a place for him.

But you are free to have ill-informed jibes at players commitments from the comfort of your work place.

Show some respect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: otbar on January 26, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
Show some respect.

Maybe its just me, but I look at that and all I see is the irony? Maybe I know too many tir na og men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on January 26, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
touche
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 26, 2015, 01:22:01 PM
Likely fifteen for the first round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on January 26, 2015, 01:41:39 PM
What about Colm duffin (Moneyglass),  good strong player and target man.  Is he not available?

Good strength and can score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
Likely start 15 in NFL...........C Kerr, T Scullion, C Burke, E Killough, J Laverty, J Crozier, D Lynch, N Mc Keever, O Gallagher, C Murray, CJ Mc Gourty, C M Sweeney, T Mc Cann, M Pollock, R Murray.. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 28, 2015, 01:16:19 PM
That's a serious line up - much stronger than in the McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 28, 2015, 04:10:20 PM
Quote from: otbar on January 26, 2015, 01:41:39 PM
What about Colm duffin (Moneyglass),  good strong player and target man.  Is he not available?

Good strength and can score

Recovering from an operation I believe, which he kept putting off until end of last season.
IMO would be pushing hard for a place if fully fit. Big step up I know from DIV 2 to inter-county, but the potential is there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 28, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 28, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
Likely start 15 in NFL...........C Kerr, T Scullion, C Burke, E Killough, J Laverty, J Crozier, D Lynch, N Mc Keever, O Gallagher, C Murray, CJ Mc Gourty, C M Sweeney, T Mc Cann, M Pollock, R Murray.. ???

Where's Mick McCann? The Johnstons? Would like to see Marty Johnston WHB or CHB.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2015, 07:23:34 PM
Michael has just returned.........Johnston bros not in panel .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2015, 09:29:45 PM
13 outa 15........aw well..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2015, 09:59:04 PM
Very small full forward line!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 29, 2015, 11:55:01 PM
FF may be small but Pollock is very strong and direct. Two alongside him are sharp out. Though Benny Hasson might get a run.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2015, 08:31:47 AM
Is Benny Hasson not normally a midfielder?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stevecw on January 30, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
How far outside of Belfast is St Pauls grounds? Was thinking of heading by train from Dublin to the game, but seems a bit outta the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stevecw on January 30, 2015, 09:41:51 PM
Thanks frosbit, seems like a lot of effort. Will head home & watch the hurlers play Galway instead. 1st day out for the new jerseys and less than 10 Carlow people will be at the game there. Think Hurlers will still wear old jersey 1 last time!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 30, 2015, 09:41:58 PM
Only about 3 1/2 to 4 mile from city centre. Black taxi ( West Belfast taxi association)from Castle st/king street junction ( beside Iceland underneath the multi-story car park) is your best bet. Ask for a Shaws road taxi and it will drop you at the gate. Don't be alarmed, it's a shared taxi and anyone can jump in on route. The taxi rank is only about 10-15 mins dander from train station. As Frostie said if your feeling flush use the private hire cab at the train station, cost about a tender each way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: stevecw on January 30, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
How far outside of Belfast is St Pauls grounds? Was thinking of heading by train from Dublin to the game, but seems a bit outta the way.

About half a mile beyond Casement, no real effort for anyone who would want to go. Frostbit's private taxi is a decent shout, if there is more than one of you.

Or you get off the train at Lisburn (hiding your new top) and ring Eagle or Gransha to pick you up.

More entertaining than the hurling, you will be very welcome in west Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2015, 09:29:45 PM
13 outa 15........aw well..........

What is the line up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on January 30, 2015, 09:58:35 PM
Get off train at finaghy and taxi will cost you £3 or a 15 min walk to pitch. That's your best bet and easy too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2015, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: frostbit on January 30, 2015, 10:00:05 PM
Enterprise doesn't always stop at Finaghy as far as I know.

It doesn't. You would need to transfer at Lisburn (hiding your new top). Definitely dandering distance from Finaghy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on January 30, 2015, 11:05:21 PM
If you are serious about heading up I'll pick u up from Central Station and bring you to game. No bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 30, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2015, 09:29:45 PM
13 outa 15........aw well..........

What is the line up?
Chris Kerr, James Laverty, Conor Burke, Tony Scullion, Declan Lynch, Justin Crozier, John Carron, Sean Mc Veigh, Niall Mc Keever, Conor Murray, Owen Gallagher, Tomas Mc Cann, Ryan Murray, CJ Mc Gourty, Michael Pollock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on January 30, 2015, 11:05:21 PM
If you are serious about heading up I'll pick u up from Central Station and bring you to game. No bother.

Now that's what Antrim GAA is all about!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stevecw on January 31, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on January 30, 2015, 11:05:21 PM
If you are serious about heading up I'll pick u up from Central Station and bring you to game. No bother.

Thanks a lot for the offer. Really nice of you, fair play. I am actually going to head home to Carlow in a while, have a few pints there tonight and head to the hurling game v Galway tomorrow.

Thanks again, hope you get to see a good game tomorrow anyway with an unexpected result!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 31, 2015, 11:31:19 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on January 30, 2015, 11:05:21 PM
If you are serious about heading up I'll pick u up from Central Station and bring you to game. No bother.

Now that's GAA! Impressed! Antrim gaels are among the best, salt of the earth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 01, 2015, 08:40:10 AM
Good luck today lads.

Only victories will bring the fans out so the onus is on you, the players.

Let's get a good start to the year

Aointroim Abu!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2015, 03:33:07 PM
Draw. 1-12 to 0-15
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 01, 2015, 03:35:09 PM
Promotion..............don't think so!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2015, 03:52:12 PM
Reading the division four thread big things expected of carlow so you never know...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 01, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
Well lads what did you make of that? Grim enough a draw was just about fair eventhough the ref did us no favours. I was dismayed at the lack of quality we had on the bench with the exception of the boys who came on, they were the only number of subs the management could make. Could possibly have seen sweeney earlier and mc bride made a difference. Very impressed with Eoin Gallagher. Promotion a long shot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 01, 2015, 06:40:16 PM
Saffron heart, how do you judge the quality of the players on the bench who didn't get on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on February 01, 2015, 09:21:33 PM
Back to the drawing board... there isn't any point in talking about absentees; I think there has been too much focus on MIA's instead of the players playing. In the Irish News preview, half the interview with Frank was about players who aren't playing!
Build belief in those who are lining out. And there is plenty of quality in the team but not today.
Antrim were outplayed in the middle of the park yet kicked every kick out long. Carlow varied theirs and won 90% of them.
I expected a good return from that forward line but they couldn't get space.
Owen Gallagher was our stand out player by a mile.
Some of the tackling was silly and, contrary to talk, the cards were deserved. Stupid stuff like stopping runners.

Think of it as a point gained and a shot across the bow - Antrim are in no position to take anyone for granted. Promotion is going to be there for 4/5 teams as they will take points off each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 01, 2015, 10:03:32 PM
Dreen I am referring to the fact that the rest (who didnt get on) are untested and to my view could not have impacted positively on the game. Really need to sort the Kickouts we got cleaned out in breaking ball today. Thought Mc Veigh was not at the races today and Hasson wasnt any better. Why not move C.Murray to midfield next week as didnt do too much from half forward. Mick Mc Cann will be a great boost needed back ASAP and feel Delargy is worth a start or a place on the panel next week both proven performers. Just suggestions obviously the management know better than I do, just disappointing not being able to win primary possession especially at home. Carlow won nearly every kickout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on February 01, 2015, 10:08:14 PM
Gallagher was really good today, was through for a second goal effort when he was tripped, leading to the Carlow black card. Laverty was good, Pollock good especially first half. Chris Kerr back in goals is a plus, he made a couple of v important saves - though the kickouts should surely be mixed up?

Our first black card was a wrong decision, given after Ryan Murray exacted a bit of revenge following a bad foul on him. But it was neither a trip nor a pull down - it was a yellow card offence if anything.

CJ was quieter than in McKenna Cup, lay in deep the whole time and didn't get much service. A big man in FF may be better option, Hasson? Mick McCann?

All in all - probably a fair result. Some Antrim teams of the recent past would have folded under that late Carlow onslaught - hell, last years team did fold under a late Carlow onslaught.

Small steps, and thats what its going to take.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 01, 2015, 10:10:51 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 01, 2015, 07:59:15 PM
How did the Full Forward line do today?

Thought Pollock took some good scores and showed well although would question him taking long distance frees, thought CJ was very quiet  and more expected next week and Ryan Murray showed well until his black card although could have played CJ in for a goal and shot wide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 01, 2015, 10:44:45 PM
Fair enough Heart but to to be dismayed at Antrims lack of depth to me is strange. I judge Antrim players personally on how I've seen them perform in person in club football or has to how dangerous they are against my own team.  Draw not the result everyone wanted today but have to draw from the positives I wasn't at the game myself but heard Gallagher was very good, away day next will be crucial for the promotion hopes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 03, 2015, 09:10:42 PM
Well lads what's the verdict for the weekend. I think we have a team capable of taking the points we can hurt teams when we run at them as Gallagher did on sunday. Must win game in the promotion stakes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on February 10, 2015, 02:58:01 PM
Very little comment on the Saffrons most recent defeat in Div 4. Is this a sign of the apathy that exists now in the county. I for one am totally dejected and do not see any light on the horizon. As far as I can see there are just not the players within the county and Micky Harte, Joe Kernan or Jim Gavin would not be able to turn the fortunes around.
Why do we not have enough good players? It boils down to one main reason. Antrim was the only county in Ulster who did not have a single school playing in this years MacRory Cup. Think about it THE ONLY COUNTY. Therefore if our young players are not accustomed to playing 'A'-colleges level between the ages of 12-18 then they are not used to playing at the intense level that all other players form other counties are. This a as an absolute scandal and while  many of the schools such as St. Mary's, Malachy's, Rathmore, St. Louis' must take a lot of the blame most of the blame has to lie with the county board. This would not be tolerated by the county boards in Tyrone, Derry, Down, etc The current office bearers in the County Executive have totally ignored our schools and they may argue that it is not up to them to develop GAA in these schools but IT IS. They should be working with the principals in these schools in order to put coaches into these schools and if they say they don't have the money to do this they should have the strategic vision to bring in sponsorship from business people which will enable them to do this. This is what the lead people on an organisation are meant to do ie  LEAD.
Our County Board are a joke. What progress have they made in relation to improving Gaelic football standards in our school? It's not as if they were starting from a high baseline.
Anyone else have an opinion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GNM on February 10, 2015, 06:12:42 PM
Why should those schools take the blame? Surely the schools that do not play at that level (maclarnon mostly) are more of a problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 10, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 10, 2015, 06:29:57 PM
I wouldn't be as harsh as to blame the Antrim schools for the fact that we are and have been in such a bad way with the exception of our Ulster run (when we beat a terrible Donegal and a terrible Cavan).

Its more of a holistic problem from coaching, lack of tradition, lack of success, poor administration, lack of clubs being competitive st the very top etc. The school scene is part of that jigsaw without a doubt but hardly the biggest culprits.

St Mary's are a hurling school. Rathmore hasn't any tradition. St Malachy's of late havent had much GAA interest not at the top level anyway and the rest of the schools wouldn't have either the numbers of the GAA interest.

Maghera was formed in '64 and within 10 years had built up a tradition of excellence for Gaelic games. Many in Derry point to St Pat's as one of the main reasons why Derry football improved, as the school helped develop players from the North (Dungivin, Banagher, Ballerin, Glenullin) and teams from the south (Glen, Swatragh, S'neil, Lavey, Bellaghy, Castledawson, Newbridge, Ballinscreen, Greenlough)

This was lead directly by the school, but the power of schools football is immense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 10, 2015, 08:47:18 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 10, 2015, 07:44:09 PM
I understand that but it is much easier for schools to tap into rural communitiew with already strong GAA clubs than it would be for Urban schools with largely weaker GAA resources to pull from.

The big thing is to work hard at creating a tradition within the school and then driving on erformance.

I joined St Pat's in the 80's, at that time the top colleges would have been St Pat's, Colmans, Abbey and  St Mary's CBS Belfast. But St Mary's slipped down until they went into B football. St Mary's are a sleeping giant waiting to wake up, somebody just needs to nudge the gaint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 11, 2015, 11:19:18 AM
The likes of Rathmore and St Malachy's would struggle to get 15 boys in each school year who even play for a club team. That's a major problem when you consider the likes of St Colmans probably have close to 100 boys in each year who play for a club.

St Marys have the numbers to compete year on year. The players need to be coached to A Standard from 1st year.

Tradition is a major issue. Take the likes of St Michaels Eniskillen. Boys go there in 1st yr with a dream of one day making the McCrory team.
Boys who play for that McCrory team get all the best looking girls, they are like American college players. If a boy played for a McCrory team here no girl would know what it is or give a flying fcuk.

Its the same with our County team. You get no kudos for playing for them. Play for Tyrone and its totally different.

Theres a serious apathy and lack of support for our County teams. We never cheer when our team runs out on the field, we are just silent and criticise more than support. We are total bandwagon fair weather supporters as was shown in Ulster Final etc. But we need a good team to get the crowds out. Hence we need schools competing at A Level.

Take Tyrone, they have boys competing for Omagh CBS, Pats Dungannon etc plus good Vocational Schools teams. They only have 2 arms and 2 legs too. But we need to instill a drive in kids from early on (11/12) that this is the level they should aspire to get to. As there's v little tradition they don't (whereas say in a house in Maghera you may be brought up on stories of your da, uncle and cousins having 3 McCrory medals and therefore be busting to get to that level).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 11, 2015, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 11, 2015, 11:19:18 AM
The likes of Rathmore and St Malachy's would struggle to get 15 boys in each school year who even play for a club team. That's a major problem when you consider the likes of St Colmans probably have close to 100 boys in each year who play for a club.

St Marys have the numbers to compete year on year. The players need to be coached to A Standard from 1st year.

Tradition is a major issue. Take the likes of St Michaels Eniskillen. Boys go there in 1st yr with a dream of one day making the McCrory team.
Boys who play for that McCrory team get all the best looking girls, they are like American college players. If a boy played for a McCrory team here no girl would know what it is or give a flying fcuk.

Its the same with our County team. You get no kudos for playing for them. Play for Tyrone and its totally different.

Theres a serious apathy and lack of support for our County teams. We never cheer when our team runs out on the field, we are just silent and criticise more than support. We are total bandwagon fair weather supporters as was shown in Ulster Final etc. But we need a good team to get the crowds out. Hence we need schools competing at A Level.

Take Tyrone, they have boys competing for Omagh CBS, Pats Dungannon etc plus good Vocational Schools teams. They only have 2 arms and 2 legs too. But we need to instill a drive in kids from early on (11/12) that this is the level they should aspire to get to. As there's v little tradition they don't (whereas say in a house in Maghera you may be brought up on stories of your da, uncle and cousins having 3 McCrory medals and therefore be busting to get to that level).

I agree with this post about 90%. I feel the problem stems from an earlier age though. the primary school sector at the minute has a very poor attiude towards sports (inc Extra curricular) esp Gaelic and Hurling. with exception of the odd school with a Cumann na mBunscol rep driving things forward. the appetite and love for the game has to be embedded at this stage in order for the child to grow into that player at mcCrory level. Most of the Children don't play Gaelic because they are at St Colmans etc they go there with the intention of playing as with St Pat's St Kierans Kilkenny and all the other great Schools. Many schools now have no one with any interest in Gaelic games and therefor the work is not done. even sending a county coach in half hour a week for say 10 weeks and then the teacher not capatilising on it will have little or no impact.

The only way I can see it getting better is both the county and clubs working together on a real capacity to link clubs with schools on a full time basis and working with the schools on a long term plan for development. how this works im not entirely sure but it could at least be looked at. the Antrim development officer tried to get this model going about 6 years ago but most clubs didn't even pay lip service with the bigger clubs cherry picking from some schools and leaving schools they were assigned to wallow if there was no obvious talent.

If more and more kids come out of primary schools with a love for the game and a better skill set it will be easier for the post primary schools to provide teams and play at a higher level. the county could also help by having county fun days in schools using county players to go in and tell the kids what they do and provide magazines and posters so the children can better relate to them (Saffron Og springs to mind). you would be surprised how something which seems so insignificant to us can change the thinking of a child.

just my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2015, 12:30:46 PM
There are definitely country clubs who send people into the primary schools once a week. They get people to do this who work shifts etc. I know at least a couple.

Whether this happens so much in the city I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 11, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: CSC on February 10, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 10, 2015, 06:29:57 PM
I wouldn't be as harsh as to blame the Antrim schools for the fact that we are and have been in such a bad way with the exception of our Ulster run (when we beat a terrible Donegal and a terrible Cavan).

Its more of a holistic problem from coaching, lack of tradition, lack of success, poor administration, lack of clubs being competitive st the very top etc. The school scene is part of that jigsaw without a doubt but hardly the biggest culprits.

St Mary's are a hurling school. Rathmore hasn't any tradition. St Malachy's of late havent had much GAA interest not at the top level anyway and the rest of the schools wouldn't have either the numbers of the GAA interest.

Maghera was formed in '64 and within 10 years had built up a tradition of excellence for Gaelic games. Many in Derry point to St Pat's as one of the main reasons why Derry football improved, as the school helped develop players from the North (Dungivin, Banagher, Ballerin, Glenullin) and teams from the south (Glen, Swatragh, S'neil, Lavey, Bellaghy, Castledawson, Newbridge, Ballinscreen, Greenlough)

This was lead directly by the school, but the power of schools football is immense

Maghera cant really be compared to Grammar schools in county Antrim as they had the ability to take children within their catchment area unlike St Louis for example who took in those who passed the 11+.  I attended St Louis from 93-2000, in the that time we had some success at B college level and many of one those side were part of the 2 Antrim minor teams which reached the Ulster final.  The school was a soccer school at that time due to one of the PE Teachers being a soccer man and only had success due to an influx of Gaelic lads and a few teachers(non PE), i know things have changed recently with a greater GAA push.  McLarnon semi finals this year on the back of a Herald final defeat last year and victory in Corn Comcille bear testament to this.

Schools can only do so much as the clubs should have shaped players before they arrive there in my opinion but as stated before if for example Saint Louis had have been able to gather up pupils from a catchment area in my time with the lads i knew from Our Lady of Lourdes, St Pats and St Olcans we would have been an A college.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 11, 2015, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 11, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: CSC on February 10, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 10, 2015, 06:29:57 PM
I wouldn't be as harsh as to blame the Antrim schools for the fact that we are and have been in such a bad way with the exception of our Ulster run (when we beat a terrible Donegal and a terrible Cavan).

Its more of a holistic problem from coaching, lack of tradition, lack of success, poor administration, lack of clubs being competitive st the very top etc. The school scene is part of that jigsaw without a doubt but hardly the biggest culprits.

St Mary's are a hurling school. Rathmore hasn't any tradition. St Malachy's of late havent had much GAA interest not at the top level anyway and the rest of the schools wouldn't have either the numbers of the GAA interest.

Maghera was formed in '64 and within 10 years had built up a tradition of excellence for Gaelic games. Many in Derry point to St Pat's as one of the main reasons why Derry football improved, as the school helped develop players from the North (Dungivin, Banagher, Ballerin, Glenullin) and teams from the south (Glen, Swatragh, S'neil, Lavey, Bellaghy, Castledawson, Newbridge, Ballinscreen, Greenlough)

This was lead directly by the school, but the power of schools football is immense

Maghera cant really be compared to Grammar schools in county Antrim as they had the ability to take children within their catchment area unlike St Louis for example who took in those who passed the 11+.  I attended St Louis from 93-2000, in the that time we had some success at B college level and many of one those side were part of the 2 Antrim minor teams which reached the Ulster final.  The school was a soccer school at that time due to one of the PE Teachers being a soccer man and only had success due to an influx of Gaelic lads and a few teachers(non PE), i know things have changed recently with a greater GAA push.  McLarnon semi finals this year on the back of a Herald final defeat last year and victory in Corn Comcille bear testament to this.

Schools can only do so much as the clubs should have shaped players before they arrive there in my opinion but as stated before if for example Saint Louis had have been able to gather up pupils from a catchment area in my time with the lads i knew from Our Lady of Lourdes, St Pats and St Olcans we would have been an A college.

You can compare St Pat's with Antrim schools, because they play in colleges against Colmans, Abbey, Omagh, Dungannon, who are all the same as St Louis.

I think what you will find is the secret of sucess, is down to teachers really putting an effort in the promotion of GAA within the schools.

For example, in St Pat's, 80% of PE classes from 1-3rd year was gaelic football. Each class started with 10 mins coaching and finished up in a game. Each game was stopped when the teacher wanted to point out a coaching opportunity. In 1st year, we had the 1st year league, which was contested as seriously as you would a MacRory cup. This system established a "Maghera Way" of playing football which matured during the MacRory years.

Maghera also host a P7 championship. This is a way of looking at talent coming into the school, and in an indirect way, selling the school to some football mad kid who might want to go to  a different school.

These are lessons that Antrim schools can learn from. The talent pool in Derry is good, but the commitment to Gaelic games, and to excellence in Maghera was second to none.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 11, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 11, 2015, 08:11:47 AM
I see you've been on the county guestbook, CSC?

Not me, but I've read the post you are talking about.

I do read the county guestbook, and posted in the past, but got very dissapointed at the negatitivy when someone suggests a different way of doing things, so I stopped posting a couple of years back

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 11, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Im not doubting St Pats at all and IMO the clubs there pupils came from are top clubs but you cannot seriously compare a school which took pupils in no matter what grade they had in the 11+ against a school who only took in passes.  You can compare them to Colmans etc fair enough and i said it when i was at school that alot of clubs in Antrim cared nothing for colleges football and that the schools and county board didnt care much either. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 11, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 11, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Im not doubting St Pats at all and IMO the clubs there pupils came from are top clubs but you cannot seriously compare a school which took pupils in no matter what grade they had in the 11+ against a school who only took in passes.  You can compare them to Colmans etc fair enough and i said it when i was at school that alot of clubs in Antrim cared nothing for colleges football and that the schools and county board didnt care much either.
In my opinion, school size is the only factor where you shouldn't compare schools. I believe St Pat's take in around 75-100 boys each year. It doesn't matter if they are in the grammar or secondary path. 100 boys in a school year 'v' 50,  is an obvious advantage.

Your point around clubs / county board not caring for colleges football. If St Louis ever got to a MacRory final, the attitude would be significantly different.

One point that you didn't make but is really valid for most Antrim schools, is the hurling / football divide. St Louis' pick to the North of the school is Rasharkin, Dunloy, Glenraval, with Dunloy and L'guile hurling, and  then Ballymena, Stinstons, and a few Creggan / Tir na Nog. All these clubs have hurling and football.

St Pat's is surrounded by Glen, Glenullin, Castledawson, Greenlough, Bellaghy, Kilrea, Cargin, who are football only, aswell as the dual clubs of Lavey, screen, Dungiven, Swatagh, S'neil.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 11, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
didnt even want to start into the hurling/football divide but i meant both codes when saying there wasnt much interest.  We had a good hurling man as a PE Teacher but he didnt have any support.

again i cant get your point even in numbers, of the 75 boys in my year 50 of them didnt even play sport never mind football, we had a great club minor team and there were 2 of that side at St Louis now if there had been no 11+ we would possibly could have had 7 or more.

as for getting to MacRory final, i cant agree with that we got to 2 mclarnon finals and an All ireland B colleges final and it didnt do much, yes its B colleges but you just dont rock into Macrory football you have to build towards it.

Saint Louis at the minute IMO are building as there is a greater focus on all Gaelic games, better facilities and gear as well.  Takes a GAA minded principal and many GAA teachers, you are saying about MacRory but id take a McLarnon firstly and build from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on February 13, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Any refs on here lads looking a game in belfast on sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 13, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on February 13, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Any refs on here lads looking a game in belfast on sunday?

who's taking you's this year FF?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FullForward72 on February 13, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 13, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on February 13, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Any refs on here lads looking a game in belfast on sunday?

who's taking you's this year FF?


Same management as last year mac
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 13, 2015, 02:16:20 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on February 13, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 13, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: FullForward72 on February 13, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Any refs on here lads looking a game in belfast on sunday?

who's taking you's this year FF?


Same management as last year mac

good stuff, im sure theyll build on momentum from last few seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 15, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
Frostbit why would it be 3 down 1 up??? are the leagues being restructured again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 15, 2015, 06:57:31 PM
No 4 teams of 8 was only a hurling motion. Not sure what the story is for the football leagues can anyone enlighten me. Hearing all sorts of rumours that county are going to change it to 3 divisions, County website has 4 divisions though. Clarification needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 16, 2015, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 15, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
As I said, I haven't much a clue about the goings on at county level but surely to change from 4 leagues to 3 would require a motion at convention?

It would, but sometimes circumstances dictate, the only thing i can see keeping a div 4 is the participation of Aghagllon and Glenravel 2nds, if they weren't there then div 4 would not be a division worth having.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 19, 2015, 02:28:29 PM
I see going by the county guestbook the make up of Div 3/4 is being discussed tonight at CCC meeting, i assume this is what the hold up with fixtures was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
I attended the health and wellbeing seminar today, organised by the county, at Dunsilly. Credit to everyone involved - there is a lot of really good work going on behind the scenes that often goes unnoticed.

The subjects discussed ranged from social inclusion, depression/suicide awareness, gambling problems, and that was just the start.

Without doubt the GAA has a hugely influential role as the eyes and ears of the community. In fact the GAA is the standout organisation in the country for rolling out grassroots initiatives, such as this most worthwhile one which emanated from an idea in Strabane club by Ciaran Mc Laughlin, and has gone through convention and is in process of being extended up and down the country in the coming months and years.

Sometimes we are too hard on ourselves. At its best the GAA is one fantastic organisation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 26, 2015, 07:31:07 PM
Just heard of death of Sean McNally, a St. Malachy's man & ex Chairman of the South Antrim Board, during the 1970s. Funeral St. Mary's Greencastle [Newtownabbey] on Saturday @ 10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 11, 2015, 10:54:00 AM
Footballers starting to motor big performance needed in Waterford which would set up a promotion decider with Offaly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on March 11, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Good win surely considering the start they made conceding the goal & going a man down so early on.
showed great character to go on and win the game.
an away win this weekend will setup them up nicely for offaly game.
bannside do you know if big niall mckeever will be back soon?

i hate the way the irish news keeps running stories on the players we are missing, very disrespectful to the ones who r there!
they choose not to be in squad at present, get on with it.
next interview will be with kevin niblock & on & on!!
would be great to have them all back especially niblock & kobo, but you play the hand your dealt!

dont think frank has got enough prise for just getting on with the job at hand.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on March 12, 2015, 06:53:28 PM
culchie11 I couldn't agree more. I've been amazed by all the coverage of the footballers since before the league began. So much focus on players not in but I think the Manager didn't help as he also repeatedly talked about keeping the door open and kept the story running.
This may have cost them in the early rounds as they were leaderless on the pitch.

Would love to see them beat Offaly and really bounce back. not a simple run in - Waterford away could be tricky... Wicklow at home should be a win and then Offaly away to decide the table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2015, 09:22:45 PM
Big Niall out with a quad injury Culchie. Think another week or two before he can start jogging again. Hopefully back for the Offaly game which could be massive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 15, 2015, 09:55:16 PM
Yep Offaly game could well be massive Bannside, but even full points from last two games won't guarantee promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 15, 2015, 10:31:32 PM
Nothing guaranteed yet but at least we are back in the mix. Winning a good habit to get onto but harder tasks ahead.

Wicklow match is massive. Nothing between us in recent years - but last year we had them on the ropes but CJ missed a penalty and our weak mentality was exposed again in the weeks that followed.

A win against Wicklow is essential to get the supporters back out again. If we lose its div 4 again next year. If we win a decent crowd will go to Tullamore.  It's up to the players to earn the respect of the paying public and a few wins back to back is a good start. But it gets harder from here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 15, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
2 wins and we shpould be alright country bumpkin the way the fixtures lie. Really hoping for longford to beat offaly which would help our bid. Tasty fixture in Tullamore if we beat Wicklow. Whats up with Tomas McCann Country Bumpkin is he injured wasnt playing today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 16, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Don't know what is going on with Tomas SH................but just saying that we have an inferior score difference than both Longford and Offaly and this may cost us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 16, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
But if we beat Offaly, and finish level on pints with them (they would have dropped at least 3 if that happens) then we finish above them on a 'head to head' basis. Point difference only applies if more than 2 teams finish level.

Offaly and Longford still have to play each other - points will be dropped by one or both of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 18, 2015, 12:26:31 PM
Right BB now I am enlightened and I may well have a few bob on the Saffrons to win the division. Hear PP is offering 6/1, and indeed our 21s are 6/1 to beat Armagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2015, 11:36:38 PM
John Mc Keever - from Portglenone - who has landed the biggest job in Ulster Football with Ballinderry Shamrocks, lands the first title of the season in beating Ardboe by 7 points in Ulster league final tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on March 23, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
Wise up, the biggest job in Ulster club football is Crossmaglen, closely followed by Portglenone.  ;) Ballinderry won a competiton that none of the current big championship winners play in. Hardly an achievement worth mentioning. The only achievement here was that nobody got hit by a Ballinderry supporter, ah I forgot, they won, so no bother. ;) ;D :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2015, 09:49:26 AM
the ulster league is a joke. Its pre-season football and nothing more.

Its that bad that in hurling that none of the Div 1 Antrim sides even bother with it anymore and prefer to train on their own rather than trod about wet boggy pitches playing reserve and experimental teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on March 23, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 23, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
Wise up, the biggest job in Ulster club football is Crossmaglen, closely followed by Portglenone.  ;) Ballinderry won a competiton that none of the current big championship winners play in. Hardly an achievement worth mentioning. The only achievement here was that nobody got hit by a Ballinderry supporter, ah I forgot, they won, so no bother. ;) ;D :-*

Got it in one. Sad to see Ballinderry lining the pockets of another one of the band of mercenaries moving from club to club. I know they have had outside men before but there are plenty of men in their club more than capable of taking their senior team.

This clique of managers and coaches should all be roaded from the GAA.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 23, 2015, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on March 23, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 23, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
Wise up, the biggest job in Ulster club football is Crossmaglen, closely followed by Portglenone.  ;) Ballinderry won a competiton that none of the current big championship winners play in. Hardly an achievement worth mentioning. The only achievement here was that nobody got hit by a Ballinderry supporter, ah I forgot, they won, so no bother. ;) ;D :-*

Got it in one. Sad to see Ballinderry lining the pockets of another one of the band of mercenaries moving from club to club. I know they have had outside men before but there are plenty of men in their club more than capable of taking their senior team.

This clique of managers and coaches should all be roaded from the GAA.

Does anyone have a list of current Ulster County champions and where they are from? are there many who won championships with home managers? St Galls and Cross are the only two i can think of off the top of my head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2015, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 23, 2015, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on March 23, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 23, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
Wise up, the biggest job in Ulster club football is Crossmaglen, closely followed by Portglenone.  ;) Ballinderry won a competiton that none of the current big championship winners play in. Hardly an achievement worth mentioning. The only achievement here was that nobody got hit by a Ballinderry supporter, ah I forgot, they won, so no bother. ;) ;D :-*



Got it in one. Sad to see Ballinderry lining the pockets of another one of the band of mercenaries moving from club to club. I know they have had outside men before but there are plenty of men in their club more than capable of taking their senior team.

This clique of managers and coaches should all be roaded from the GAA.

Does anyone have a list of current Ulster County champions and where they are from? are there many who won championships with home managers? St Galls and Cross are the only two i can think of off the top of my head

Lavey?, I'm sure Bellaghy also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2015, 06:49:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2015, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2015, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 23, 2015, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on March 23, 2015, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 23, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
Wise up, the biggest job in Ulster club football is Crossmaglen, closely followed by Portglenone.  ;) Ballinderry won a competiton that none of the current big championship winners play in. Hardly an achievement worth mentioning. The only achievement here was that nobody got hit by a Ballinderry supporter, ah I forgot, they won, so no bother. ;) ;D :-*



Got it in one. Sad to see Ballinderry lining the pockets of another one of the band of mercenaries moving from club to club. I know they have had outside men before but there are plenty of men in their club more than capable of taking their senior team.

This clique of managers and coaches should all be roaded from the GAA.

Does anyone have a list of current Ulster County champions and where they are from? are there many who won championships with home managers? St Galls and Cross are the only two i can think of off the top of my head

Lavey?, I'm sure Bellaghy also
What are you sniffing?

Your ma?....Two parts to question, S'Niel current.. List the rest sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2015, 07:09:49 PM
I need glasses....  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 23, 2015, 08:18:09 PM
Not entirely sure about that HS otherwise why would he ask where they are from. I think he was referring to the managers of the county champions and were they won by home managers . St galls current manager by the way isn't one of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 24, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
Quote from: manballandall on March 23, 2015, 08:18:09 PM
Not entirely sure about that HS otherwise why would he ask where they are from. I think he was referring to the managers of the county champions and were they won by home managers . St galls current manager by the way isn't one of them
He was also looking to know where the managers of those teams are from.

Yeah HS you're right, just trying to think on the debate of outside managers and do they really work in comparison to clubmen taking the senior team, is it a myth that outside managers get more out of players?

manandball would you not consider galls manager as a home manager? didnt he play for st galls for a good few years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 24, 2015, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 24, 2015, 12:27:41 PM
Carl McCabe? I know he played for St Johns. Don't think he played for St Galls although his children always have.

Maybe thats where i picked it up wrong, i thought he played for galls for a few years, but his kids could be the link alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on March 24, 2015, 07:26:28 PM
Carl played for St. John's , has coached underage for us before taking senior job.
Funny, I had this conversation with a gort man earlier and we both agreed that unless someone has played underage for a club it's hard to look on them as 'clubmen'. Was in reference to people who transfer as they won't be able to sit with their peers and talk about the goings on on and off the pitch from previous years . Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 24, 2015, 08:55:48 PM
In fairness it's usually the barflys who do all the nostalgia and the blow ins who do a bit of grafting. Everyone should be welcomed with open arms wanting to get involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 29, 2015, 05:39:35 PM
So the footballers get the Job done versus Wicklow. Massive game next week in Tullamore hopefully we bring a good support and watch the lads do the Business. CJ kicked big amount of scores again today, its great to see most of the lads buying into it this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2015, 11:19:08 AM
The Gall's lads did rightly yesterday, lets hope this continues... Wasn't at the game but was following it on twitter!! Wicklow got a great start so decent enough effort to get back at them and take a lead of 4 before the tight finish! Hopefully close out games a lot better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on April 03, 2015, 01:39:33 PM
I see Mick McCann has opted off the county panel now, does anyone know why for?
anymore players leaving or joining panel? Young delargy featured well last couple of years doesnt seem to be getting much game time this year! is duffin from moneyglass due back anytime soon from injury?

Not many of the 2009 team left at this stage!

good luck to the football squad on sunday, will be a mighty achievement if they get the win!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2015, 07:28:36 PM
Will be a good achievement alright Culchie if this team selection can pull off a result. Traditionally we arnt good travellers so I will happily applaud all concerned if we manage to pull out a result.

Mick has pulled out and like Tomas will probably cite work commitments.

Niall Delargy has suffered three hamstring pulls in a row. First was at Antrim training and the second also at Antrim training on his final (5th) pull pelt sprint also at Antrim training after a rigorous 4 week rehab course that involved several 7am stints to a physio in Belfast. Missing Sigerson as a result he was eligible for All Ireland Universities B final for QUB against UCD where it went again for the third time. Almost good to go now but needs game time which he will get with the club. No issues with management and will probably chip away and wait his chance.

Smiley Duffin a class act who should be much higher on county management radar. Good to go but needs the call
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on April 03, 2015, 07:45:18 PM
Mick and Tomas in the huff about being taken off apparently. I respect the commitment they've gave to Antrim in the past but feel they should have stuck around for the championship. Seems a waste doing the hard yards with Mick McGurn then only to leave in April
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
If we win on Sunday then plenty will hang around with a high profile play off in Croker on the horizon. Lose on Sunday and there will be a lot of upheaval I suspect.

Rumours circulate about players who are about to be fast tracked onto team/squad and this will leave present starters/panelists  feeling insecure.

Bam and Niblock are expected back in after Easter and rumours persist about a couple of high profile Galls men. Which leaves a lot of uncertainty for those currently doing the hard yards. All part of the tough job that is county management. That's football, and only 15 can start - but in fairness to Fitzy he has brought in good prospects like Matt Fitzpatrick and Chris Mc Guinness both of whom I think are deserving of a place. Saying that I also would be a big fan of Paddy Mc Bride and Ryan Murray neither of whom were down to start on Sunday and I wouldn't be wanting to screw about with their heads at this stage.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2015, 03:10:30 PM
We've pulled it back to two points now but offaly have been ahead from the start. Hopefully we can keep at it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2015, 03:57:44 PM
So another year in Division 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on April 06, 2015, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
If we win on Sunday then plenty will hang around with a high profile play off in Croker on the horizon. Lose on Sunday and there will be a lot of upheaval I suspect.

Rumours circulate about players who are about to be fast tracked onto team/squad and this will leave present starters/panelists  feeling insecure.

Bam and Niblock are expected back in after Easter and rumours persist about a couple of high profile Galls men. Which leaves a lot of uncertainty for those currently doing the hard yards. All part of the tough job that is county management. That's football, and only 15 can start - but in fairness to Fitzy he has brought in good prospects like Matt Fitzpatrick and Chris Mc Guinness both of whom I think are deserving of a place. Saying that I also would be a big fan of Paddy Mc Bride and Ryan Murray neither of whom were down to start on Sunday and I wouldn't be wanting to screw about with their heads at this stage.
Bound to be a few defections once the Maradonna-Prima Donnas slip in.  A few toys to be thrown out of the pram I would say. No, done tell me, is golden balls K McG coming back? And who else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 06, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
I love this bollocks about "high profile" Antrim players, high profile in what universe ? Maybe in their own head but that's about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on April 06, 2015, 11:42:04 PM
Kevin McGourty wont be coming back, hes washed up. Wouldnt have the fitness for county football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2015, 11:46:32 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 06, 2015, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
If we win on Sunday then plenty will hang around with a high profile play off in Croker on the horizon. Lose on Sunday and there will be a lot of upheaval I suspect.

Rumours circulate about players who are about to be fast tracked onto team/squad and this will leave present starters/panelists  feeling insecure.

Bam and Niblock are expected back in after Easter and rumours persist about a couple of high profile Galls men. Which leaves a lot of uncertainty for those currently doing the hard yards. All part of the tough job that is county management. That's football, and only 15 can start - but in fairness to Fitzy he has brought in good prospects like Matt Fitzpatrick and Chris Mc Guinness both of whom I think are deserving of a place. Saying that I also would be a big fan of Paddy Mc Bride and Ryan Murray neither of whom were down to start on Sunday and I wouldn't be wanting to screw about with their heads at this stage.
Bound to be a few defections once the Maradonna-Prima Donnas slip in.  A few toys to be thrown out of the pram I would say. No, done tell me, is golden balls K McG coming back? And who else?

Mickey Darragh, Lenny Harbison, and PJ O'Hare
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 07, 2015, 08:13:28 AM
Not sure PJ would have the fitness level either lol. Class act though. Haven't had a better FF since!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2015, 03:46:47 PM
PJ may well be required.................hear J Carron, P Mc Cann, and M Kane have also flown the coop >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 07, 2015, 03:51:59 PM
Has there been a fall out with the Cargin players and Antrim management? Why would you train all winter only to pack it in now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on April 07, 2015, 04:31:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 07, 2015, 03:46:47 PM
PJ may well be required.................hear J Carron, P Mc Cann, and M Kane have also flown the coop >:(

See I was right, more defections.  CB, I think this says more about the staying power of some of our players (or the lack of staying power in this particular case).  Trouble at Mill it would seem??  I'd say there will be more abandoning of the ship before it's all over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on April 07, 2015, 05:31:13 PM
Could be possibility the J B factor at Cargin. He will be telling the players to throw their lot in with the club and give the c'ship a rattle and that they have a realistic chance of winning it and winning nothing with Antrim.

Bannside - this should keep you happy as you have been touting the names of some players who you think have been overlooked and possibility will get a call by the county management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2015, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: oneclubonelife on April 07, 2015, 05:31:13 PM
Could be possibility the J B factor at Cargin. He will be telling the players to throw their lot in with the club and give the c'ship a rattle and that they have a realistic chance of winning it and winning nothing with Antrim.

Bannside - this should keep you happy as you have been touting the names of some players who you think have been overlooked and possibility will get a call by the county management.

Sure they should be winning it every year!! Do you honestly think keeping the Cargin lads away from county set ups will win the Championship?  Not rolling over when they go a couple points down would be the main reason I believe Cargin haven't won more Championships.... Aidso being away for us will be a major factor for us this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 07, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
Where did I say players were overlooked One Club? There is only one player who I think has been overlooked and that's Michael Magill who was a standout forward in club football last year. Winning all sorts of ball and unselfishly laying it off to others. If I was in Fitzys shoes I would be having a rethink about this as Magill and Niblock would offer us a physical presence that is badly lacking. I'd also have Kieran Mc Gort all day long but he has been in long term self exile.

Obviously Sean Kelly, Sean Burke and Aidso would be in there too, but Fitzy hasn't overlooked them. That's the difference. And to give Fitzy credit he has blooded the same players I personally rate such as Fitzpatrick, Mc Guinness, Owen Gallagher and Paddy Mc Bride. All players with a big future.

Marty Johnston and Kobo are obviously two others we would benefit from massively - but once again,  the point is they have ruled themselves out for their own reasons.

The league is over and the only thing that will put any gloss on yet another depressing season to date is a win against Fermanagh. That's imperative now just to break even with 2014.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 07, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
No talk of tomorrow's first round club matches. Serious reports about the pre season done at Cargin. And St Galls hammered Kilrea a week ago to signal their wellbeing. We host Lamh Dhearg so we are keen to maintain our progression but will be up against it without Niall McKeever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on April 07, 2015, 09:59:21 PM
Bannside - the league will be interesting. I think it will be a good game between yourselves and LD- be a tight game with yourselves coming out on the right side, Creggan to take care of St Johns, Teresa's to take care of Ahoghill, Gall's to destroy Aldergrove and Cargan to destroy Rossas . Here Casements are going great guns under the new management team - you will be the team to watch this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 07, 2015, 10:56:49 PM
We have a very tight start with Lamhs Creggan Cargin and St Galls all in first few games. That's the first four home in last year's league so we will know a lot more about ourselves in a month that's for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on April 15, 2015, 04:54:21 PM
With all this doom and gloom regarding the intercounty set up. What clubs do people think will have a good season and is their any Dark horses for championship or league honours at each senior grade?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
I will go out on a limb and say this is Cargin year. Moneyglass should be strong in division two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 08:25:50 PM
I'd like to see Ballymena make a bit of a breakthrough but Moneyglass to win Div 2 and you just can't look past St Gall's. Cargin promise much every single year only to be di.cked. That said, I'd love them to beat St Gall's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on April 16, 2015, 11:15:45 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 08:25:50 PM
I'd like to see Ballymena make a bit of a breakthrough but Moneyglass to win Div 2 and you just can't look past St Gall's. Cargin promise much every single year only to be di.cked. That said, I'd love them to beat St Gall's
Now there's a surprise lol. Arrogant lot those milltown boys. Shoulder on chip rid get of. Rearrange those words :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 11:21:35 PM
Just looking a change, arsehol.e.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 18, 2015, 11:57:44 PM
This year is intriguing to say the least. St Galls won't go on forever but still have a quality panel with not a bad player on it who know how to win championships. Sad to say but with such quality they should have added another few Ulster to their belt in this purple patch.

While Cargin have shit in the nest quite a few times I detect a different mentality about them this year and have JB in charge who also knows how to win championships. Make no mistake they mean business this year.

Makes for a fascinating season. Hopefully it lives up to its billing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2015, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2015, 11:57:44 PM
This year is intriguing to say the least. St Galls won't go on forever but still have a quality panel with not a bad player on it who know how to win championships. Sad to say but with such quality they should have added another few Ulster to their belt in this purple patch.

While Cargin have shit in the nest quite a few times I detect a different mentality about them this year and have JB in charge who also knows how to win championships. Make no mistake they mean business this year.

Makes for a fascinating season. Hopefully it lives up to its billing.

Don't they mean business every year?   Meeting Cargin early this year will have a different slant on things.... Think we are due to play them in Belfast this year as we've played them up the country for a while now, maybe a change of scenery will help Cargin, what price are they this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 23, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
Mister power has cargin at 2/1 MR...............Galls are 1/1....................hear the Cargin manager told the players to bring all their league medals (and that is a lot) to training last week and he was bringing a bucket..................all for dumping in the Bann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2015, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
Mister power has cargin at 2/1 MR...............Galls are 1/1....................hear the Cargin manager told the players to bring all their league medals (and that is a lot) to training last week and he was bringing a bucket..................all for dumping in the Bann.

Leagues are for playing, championships are for winning.... We might be past it this year :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 24, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
Mister power has cargin at 2/1 MR...............Galls are 1/1....................hear the Cargin manager told the players to bring all their league medals (and that is a lot) to training last week and he was bringing a bucket..................all for dumping in the Bann.

That would be a great story if true, need photographic evidence, county antrim post exclusive, LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
Hear the evil deed was done in the dead of night.........Maggie may well have the pics :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on April 28, 2015, 08:05:06 PM
Some interesting results of late in division 1, I wouldn't read too much into it yet as its a long time to championship, the only point worth noting is that St galls are started earlier than usual as the draw has given them a testing 1st round game for a change!

Lamh dhearg seem to be going well at the minute, Ryan Murray is a class act, Creggan are flattering to deceive at the minute, after that everyone is in a level keel. I thought the two promoted sides may have faired better but it seems all is not happy in both camps.

Some good news for a change is that Dunsilly as I had said at the start of the year will be up and running this year, a contractor has been appointed and works are due to start on changing facilities shortly! Long overdue and we must push ahead with this facility as this will be our focal point for our development squads and county training for years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 29, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
So three games in six days is the lot of our footballers....where else but in Antrim ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 30, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
So three games in six days is the lot of our footballers....where else but in Antrim ;)

Yip, 3 games in 6 days then we will see a period of 3 games in 6-7 weeks! lol, Anyone at any games last night? most games going the way you would have expected to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
Clubs are too subservient in the GAA in my opinion. If you see revenue generation as secondary to the playing of our games by as many people as possible on a regular basis, when you step back and look at how our games are arranged, its crazy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 30, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Good to see plans for Dunsilly are back on track. I have been to four matches and so far Cargin are standout.  They are a different animal this year. In my book they were about 15/20% off St Galls last year - but will have found that improvement and more by c'ship time. They simply blew us away last night and did the same to Creggan on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 30, 2015, 10:41:23 AM
Lamh Dhearg also look to have kicked on from last year and play a good brand too. Can't be discounted.  They are clearly now in the top three with a bit of a gap to the others. In Ryan Murray they have the best corner forward in the county by some distance.

Michael Magill still my idea of the best full forward in the county and that hasn't changed after seeing him close up last night. Having said that Mick Mc Cann was at his brilliant best as well. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2015, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 30, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Good to see plans for Dunsilly are back on track. I have been to four matches and so far Cargin are standout.  They are a different animal this year. In my book they were about 15/20% off St Galls last year - but will have found that improvement and more by c'ship time. They simply blew us away last night and did the same to Creggan on Sunday.

Different brand of football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on April 30, 2015, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 30, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Good to see plans for Dunsilly are back on track. I have been to four matches and so far Cargin are standout.  They are a different animal this year. In my book they were about 15/20% off St Galls last year - but will have found that improvement and more by c'ship time. They simply blew us away last night and did the same to Creggan on Sunday.

I was at the Cargin v Lamh dearg game a couple of Sundays ago and I was disappointed with Cargin.  They won the game at midfield but Lamh Dearg dropped a couple of men back and Cargin seemed clueless as to how to break through.  Cunningham easily won his tussle with KOBO too.

Have they improved a lot in the last couple of weeks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 30, 2015, 05:12:48 PM
Firstly Kobo is now where near fit after being out for quite a few months. But in fairness Paddy Cunningham had a great game against us too.

I'm only going on what I saw in the four games we have had to date. Obviously that could change when we play St Galls who are, and have been the benchmark.

The standout team that I have seen to date has been Cargin. We have played them, Creggan Lamh Dhearg and St John's. Of course championships are not won in April, we all know that. But make no mistake Cargin are a much more serious proposition this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on May 01, 2015, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 30, 2015, 05:12:48 PM
Firstly Kobo is now where near fit after being out for quite a few months. But in fairness Paddy Cunningham had a great game against us too.

I'm only going on what I saw in the four games we have had to date. Obviously that could change when we play St Galls who are, and have been the benchmark.

The standout team that I have seen to date has been Cargin. We have played them, Creggan Lamh Dhearg and St John's. Of course championships are not won in April, we all know that. But make no mistake Cargin are a much more serious proposition this year.

Cheers Bannside.  I have no affinity to any Antrim club and I only went to the Cargin v LD game as it was at the Dub.  Cargin obviously have improved as they were disappointing versus LD.  As you say it's hard to read teams this early in the league and it will probably have no bearing on the championship, but I was expecting more from Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 01, 2015, 11:52:38 AM
Quote from: mb80b60 on April 30, 2015, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 30, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Good to see plans for Dunsilly are back on track. I have been to four matches and so far Cargin are standout.  They are a different animal this year. In my book they were about 15/20% off St Galls last year - but will have found that improvement and more by c'ship time. They simply blew us away last night and did the same to Creggan on Sunday.

I was at the Cargin v Lamh dearg game a couple of Sundays ago and I was disappointed with Cargin.  They won the game at midfield but Lamh Dearg dropped a couple of men back and Cargin seemed clueless as to how to break through.  Cunningham easily won his tussle with KOBO too.

Have they improved a lot in the last couple of weeks?]was not at that game but all reports from the travelling cargin folk was that they did not fire and the suggestion is that the 'man in the middle' was horrendous..........perhaps he remains imprisoned in 2000 mode. :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on May 01, 2015, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 01, 2015, 11:52:38 AM
Quote from: mb80b60 on April 30, 2015, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 30, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Good to see plans for Dunsilly are back on track. I have been to four matches and so far Cargin are standout.  They are a different animal this year. In my book they were about 15/20% off St Galls last year - but will have found that improvement and more by c'ship time. They simply blew us away last night and did the same to Creggan on Sunday.

I was at the Cargin v Lamh dearg game a couple of Sundays ago and I was disappointed with Cargin.  They won the game at midfield but Lamh Dearg dropped a couple of men back and Cargin seemed clueless as to how to break through.  Cunningham easily won his tussle with KOBO too.

Have they improved a lot in the last couple of weeks?]was not at that game but all reports from the travelling cargin folk was that they did not fire and the suggestion is that the 'man in the middle' was horrendous..........perhaps he remains imprisoned in 2000 mode. :P

The man in the middle was not good... but as a neutral he didn't seem to favour either side.  Cunningham received a box to the side of the head and the referee only produced a yellow for the Cargin defender.  Earlier in the game the big LD midfielder very harshly received a black card for what looked like an honest attempt to win the ball.  Obviously there were strange decisions against Cargin too, but I don't think it was the reason LD won.

Any idea who the Cargin CHB would have been that day?  Strong runner with the ball and a nice passer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 01, 2015, 01:16:22 PM
chb was most likely Justin Crozier............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 01, 2015, 01:16:22 PM
chb was most likely Justin Crozier............

So it was the referee? lol   right that is him banished to the sidelines if Cargin get to play us ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 01, 2015, 10:15:59 PM
Not the ref MR.............Cargin always have difficulty at LD.................sure Mr Coyle luvs Cargin anyways..............Of course we will get to meet up with the Gall's, sure u will be in Toome in a few weeks time............and we have a date in the championship later on. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 01, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
MR what's the story with Aidso and Sean Burke this year. Are they both available for championship?  Whilst Aidso has been a colossus for you over the years (big on leadership qualities too) the word is Burke has kinda taken over the mantle as main man in midfield. What's your opinion. For if Burke is rated that highly he is some loss to the county!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 01, 2015, 10:48:37 PM
Heading up to An Lub on Sunday for the opening of their new pitch. Managed them in 2006 and what a class club and group of lads. 

Derry versus Antrim in a challenge game followed by a few pints in the social club. Bagatelle providing the entertainment.  Hopefully a Antrim will be competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2015, 11:32:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 01, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
MR what's the story with Aidso and Sean Burke this year. Are they both available for championship?  Whilst Aidso has been a colossus for you over the years (big on leadership qualities too) the word is Burke has kinda taken over the mantle as main man in midfield. What's your opinion. For if Burke is rated that highly he is some loss to the county!

Burkey down under or somewhere like that... We will miss aidso to ad for me he dominated MMcC in all those championship games... Massive loss... But we've eventually unearthed some good players... Young burkey has matured rightly and is a huge talent, both hurling and football, great kid too.... Look we've plenty of senior heads to bring these boys on but will be tough for us...  Don't think that we can view winning one game as being a pathway to Ulster... LD possibly may put in a challenge... Either or they are well focused no doubt on creating more Antrim history
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 02, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
MR2, aidso played against Ahoghill in the league just last week!!  ::)

he is always in peak condition, so i wud say he will feature in some capacity & sure the bold kevin is back playing again, for me he got galls over the finish line last year, came on caught a few balls, broke a few & kicked a great score! such a talent!

as christy once said, its a long way from here to there!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 02, 2015, 08:56:11 PM
just home from fortress Corrigan.............and I do believe Cargin are on the up and up and in fact they are playing a different brand of football......the JB factor??? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
Cargin are on fire. Believe me they are a different animal this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 02, 2015, 10:18:12 PM
Cargin have flattered to deceive too many times. Leagues are for playing in....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2015, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on May 02, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
MR2, aidso played against Ahoghill in the league just last week!!  ::)

he is always in peak condition, so i wud say he will feature in some capacity & sure the bold kevin is back playing again, for me he got galls over the finish line last year, came on caught a few balls, broke a few & kicked a great score! such a talent!

as christy once said, its a long way from here to there!!

Yes but he lives and works in Wales... Anyway we are miles away from the Cargin juggernaut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Cargin have indeed flattered to deceive SH no one will disagree with you on that.  I'm talking the JB factor here. That's the difference.

What is that exactly ( you may be asking).

It's the simple fact that he is a championship winning machine - including for the younger posters - with Cargin the last time he took them.

As a neutral who appreciates good football wherever it is played I am telling you Cargin are a different proposition with him. The question is whether it's enough to topple the best Antrim club side ever. And I'd say probably yes.

That's what makes this year so intriguing.  Galls last stand at winning Ulster. Cargin big push to topple Galls.  Maybe the most exciting championship match in years awaits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 03, 2015, 08:41:03 AM
Rewind 12 months and you were saying the exact same thing. Maybe the problem is talking them up every year, the players do it too,  which puts the pressure on them and ultimately sh@t in the nest. With the talent they have they should have won more, especially when st galls haven't been firing on all cylinders but it's now become a mental thing along with not having the right game plan.
Cargin for me this year though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2015, 10:09:12 AM
They owe me a fortune ffs  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 03, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
Jeez took that last post with the proverbial pinch of salt MR 2......but having conferred with JB he recommends a wager on the Greens  this year and his 100% record in Toome to remain intact. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2015, 09:08:21 AM
Look its been a two horse race for years, I like a punt, no money for us but if we do feck it up then 2/1 is a great price.... I've lost a few quid but happy we win the Championship.... So its a no brainer lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 14, 2015, 10:00:46 AM
looks like div 1 is shaping up as most would have expected, lamhs doing slightly better haven beaten both cargin & st galls, but neither will be too worried about that.

portglenone have picked up a few good results recently to lift them. aldergrove & st teresas both struggling & need a win shortly to give themselves hope.

fermanagh game isnt far away now, interesting to see some players added to the squad, kieran mcgourty, duffin, doyle, delargy & sweeney back on board.

cant see fermanagh underestimating us this year, they have improved alot since last year. hopefully the team can give a good account of themselves & you just never know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 14, 2015, 10:30:56 PM
Any St Johns men on here able to tell me if they are fielding an u16 football team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 18, 2015, 09:46:57 PM
Amazingly  sth  antrim   have  accepted  that  st johns are  not  fielding  in the u16  grading  competition. And allow  them  to  enter  div 2  when it begins......what   a  joke.......win  at  all  costs  mentality  gone wrong...I honestly   couldnt  believe  that ......st  johns  conceding  games 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 19, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
One rule for the Big Clubs, another rule for everybody else. It has always been the way. This is one of the reasons the county is in the state its in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on May 19, 2015, 02:00:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 18, 2015, 09:46:57 PM
Amazingly  sth  antrim   have  accepted  that  st johns are  not  fielding  in the u16  grading  competition. And allow  them  to  enter  div 2  when it begins......what   a  joke.......win  at  all  costs  mentality  gone wrong...I honestly   couldnt  believe  that ......st  johns  conceding  games

Nothing amazing about it and nothing other clubs haven't done or won't continue to do in lean times.  Clubs have a choice in years where they don't have the numbers or strength in depth to sustain a challenge - either amalgamate with other clubs or drop down to the level that suits limited resources, thereby giving their own players and the players of opposing teams meaningful games.  Wanting kids to get a bit of enjoyment out of that is certainly not a joke.  St John's are exactly the same as any other club in that respect. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 19, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
Genuine question - How can St Johns not field a decent u16 team? Its a bad sign for Antrim football really when one of the cities biggest teams cant compete at u16 level in div 1. Are young people in the city going elsewhere to play football or are they just simply not playing GAA and choosing other sports instead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 19, 2015, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 19, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
Genuine question - How can St Johns not field a decent u16 team? Its a bad sign for Antrim football really when one of the cities biggest teams cant compete at u16 level in div 1. Are young people in the city going elsewhere to play football or are they just simply not playing GAA and choosing other sports instead?

Johns have been cleaning up at underage- Minor and U21.

One year without a Div 1 U16 team for them is not a concern.

Anyone heading to Brewster Park? I haven't been back since we played Armagh in McKenna Cup and kicked frees backwards all day. Last year was a great game but with ballers missing like  Mick, Tomas, Niblock and even Bam (was good in Brewster last year, not so much against Neil Magee) I don't know if I will bother. Good to see Kieran McGourty there but wish he and all our best players (mostly Galls) were there a few years ago fighting for places. We never once had all the best players pulling together at the one time--came close to it a few times but could never sustain it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 19, 2015, 07:38:19 PM
I'll be there. I go in the slimmest of hope rather than expectation. Hearing some discerning team injury news in regards to CJ and Murray plus no midfield which suggests we have a mammoth task v  a fully fit Fermanagh. This could well be one of the darkest years for Antrim with the hurlers potentially relegated to Christy Ring on Sunday. Antrim GAA is in dire straits and its sad to witness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2015, 08:28:43 PM
Strong possibility I'll be at it as well as the OH is from Fermanagh. Are ye really that bad as the previous two posters suggest? How far off were Antrim from promotion? Fermanagh didn't look great in the Div 3 final either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
Lotta noise in Portglenone last nite.....u there MR2.......pray tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 21, 2015, 09:44:43 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 19, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
Genuine question - How can St Johns not field a decent u16 team? Its a bad sign for Antrim football really when one of the cities biggest teams cant compete at u16 level in div 1. Are young people in the city going elsewhere to play football or are they just simply not playing GAA and choosing other sports instead?

Cargin have been in Div 2 in Minor for the last few years and I may be corrected but are currently in 2B in Minor which is really Div3. don't hear anyone concerned for their future even though being at that level for more that 2 years suggests more problems (more that one weak batch) that a temporary 1 year drop to div2 at u-16. Just saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 21, 2015, 10:15:57 AM
Speaking to a few members of other clubs last night and all showed a large amount of apathy towards the referees in their particular games, is the standard of refereeing in the county at the minute a problem or is it simply a case of an easy target for blame?

I'm sure there are rules tests that must be passed before officiating at all levels but are there regular assessments or refresher courses to ensure all refs are up to speed.

Its a thankless task and our games wouldn't go on without them but there seems to be a worrying trend that some of these volunteers are being asked to take charge of games that are currently beyond their level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 21, 2015, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2015, 08:28:43 PM
Strong possibility I'll be at it as well as the OH is from Fermanagh. Are ye really that bad as the previous two posters suggest? How far off were Antrim from promotion? Fermanagh didn't look great in the Div 3 final either.

Antrim just missed out on promotion in a last day winner takes all away to Offaly. 2 days prior to that game our best player, Midfielder Mick McCann left the panel, having followed his brother, absolute flying machine and class act, game winning Tomas who left the panel a week or so before.

If we had all our best players we'd be fit to get promoted from Div 3 (never mind 4) and maybe battle to stay in Div 2. We never had due to various reasons and so basically play with a B or C team. We tore Fermanagh apart last year (only to sit back on a 10 point lead and just about hold on) but the players responsible for that performance decided not to play this year (their call as it's an amateur game but it's sad for supporters who feel pride seeing their county beating another).

We'll most likely be beaten by Fermanagh but be sitting there saying "you only beat our reserves, if we had our A team we'd win" --which is a shit and pathetic position to be in--we need to address the issues that make this the case, year on year, to ensure that it doesn't continue--or else what's the point in us having a (non ambitious) County Team at all.

Our support needs to get to Brewster but it's hard to support poor performances. I always went to all games and got laughed at for doing so. There's a real lack of pride in our county teams and ourselves. Suppose that can only change with winning ---the support we had in Ulster semi and then final in 2009 was unreal--first time we've ever had a proper support, on a par with any county in Ireland. But they all disappeared as quickly as they came. Proper support and pride in our team would drive players into wanting to represent their county--when 100 people and a dog turn up to watch a National League game it's a lot easier to walk away and leave a panel than if we had 8000 at each home game. Maybe getting/forcing all Primary/Secondary schools to bring (at least 1 per game) classloads to every home game in National League may boost numbers   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2015, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
Lotta noise in Portglenone last nite.....u there MR2.......pray tell.

We are past it I tell ya, you never listen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2015, 01:37:07 PM
Well some of those oul guys can still throw the odd good punch......................I know it was the ref's fault.......................halos slipping.........Bannside will know. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2015, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2015, 01:37:07 PM
Well some of those oul guys can still throw the odd good punch......................I know it was the ref's fault.......................halos slipping.........Bannside will know. ;)

I know, we should be looking at Cargins great tradition of discipline , lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 21, 2015, 11:36:38 PM
St Galls looked awesome at times last night especially the Niblock Kelly and Ciaran Mc Gort  axis. They ran up a ten point lead but it was all Portglenone in the last quarter but the clock ran out. We had 12 players who were 22 or under, so all a learning curve. As a club we have nothing but respect for St Galls, but our young team feel that we can close that gap in the next few years and whether or not that happens we will encourage them to believe that.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2015, 08:52:15 AM
U sure can scrutinise Cargin's disciplinary record indeed Mr2 and consider the sanctions imposed ...and wonder why the goings on down in Portgenone on Wed nite in which the perimeter fence was ascended, hurls were swung withouta sliotar in sight, and most in attendance had a go does not warrant  such action as endured by those badm bad country gulpins.
Ah, I do beg ur pardon........sure it was the ref's fault and sure the Milltown dwellers all have halos.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 22, 2015, 09:10:03 AM
No doubt it will all be in the referees report ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 22, 2015, 10:47:14 AM
As rows go it was on the lower end of the scale CB. It had the potential to turn nasty but sensible parents close to the fracas got in quickly and pulled players apart. When you have two full teams and subs plus a few spectators all pulling and shoving it looked worse than it was but most players shook hands and despite a crowd which had assembled not one word was said to anyone as the teams left. Yes a St Galls supporter entered the pitch with a hurl but didn't swing it at anyone and it was taken from him by a Portglenone supporter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2015, 11:26:42 AM
 >:Think thats the distilled vetsion Bannside, or the close bystander I spoke to was hallucinating and one of your players did not seek medical assistance or a tetanus  jab, and the game was not terminated early. And as all such tales proceed , sure they all lived happily ever after. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 22, 2015, 11:44:08 AM
It had potential to turn ugly and yes there was a bad edge to the game I won't dispute that CB. But there were few if any punches thrown that's my point. Having managed teams in Derry division one for five years trust me they wouldn't even catagorise  what happened as a row.   

Yes there is an allegation of a bite, that's correct and I did see the evidence. Will get an update from the player involved tonight.

We have our opinion of events and St Galls will have theirs, but we have all seen a whole lot worse that's never reported.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2015, 05:49:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2015, 11:26:42 AM
>:Think thats the distilled vetsion Bannside, or the close bystander I spoke to was hallucinating and one of your players did not seek medical assistance or a tetanus  jab, and the game was not terminated early. And as all such tales proceed , sure they all lived happily ever after. :)

Well as long as nobody was kicked in the head eh CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on May 22, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Far be it from me to 'defend' Cargin, why do you keep deflecting away from the conversation MR2? With allegations of bites and the ref blowing it up early for players safety it must have been pretty heavy stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 22, 2015, 08:36:01 PM
MR2 wasn't there and neither where any of the people on here bar bannside who has dismissed it so who's jumping on the bandwagon?.
The referees report is all anyone can go on so let's wait and see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2015, 10:22:53 PM
A kick on the head, a smack on the head with a hurl, (a weapon at a football game), a bite from a possibly rabid interloper, or being manhandled over the perimeter wire by a former footballer......which is the worst infraction MR2?sure u decide ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2015, 11:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 22, 2015, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on May 22, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Far be it from me to 'defend' Cargin, why do you keep deflecting away from the conversation MR2? With allegations of bites and the ref blowing it up early for players safety it must have been pretty heavy stuff.
Far be it from me to 'defend' MR2 but perhaps he wasn't at the game and isn't in a position to pass comment. The referee's report should contain all that went on and all we can do is wait and see what action the county board takes.

I'll send you an invoice for the gaaboard legal fee, MR2.

I wasn't at the game and haven't passed comment on it either..... Neither was CB or the other poster.... They have a vivid recollection of the events even though they were not there but hey, why not just throw shit at the wall, some of it will stick. :o

But to hear a Cargin man come on and actually give us grief about alleged going ons in a game they weren't at! Laughable

Whatever happens happens, if a player from the club stepped outta line he'll be punished... With the game 'Abandon' who got the points?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 23, 2015, 08:06:14 PM
Like everyone I wasn't there but heard that time was up. So no need to worry about who gets the points mr2!

Country bumpkin u seem to know a lot for someone not there, maybe u know a few of the pg1 players v well?! U were maybe working elsewhere!

Everything that has been mentioned so far is hearsay, a bite is hard to see at the time or prove after unless u get a csi on the job lol

Bannside is being very coy on the issue.

If it was a club with a reputation they would prob be looking at a severe sanction, if supporters jump the fence at any game u should expect to play away from home a few times more than expected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
Think u are making an assumption Culchie and perhaps barking up the wrong tree.?....Sure I am familiar with more tha a few of the Portglenone players and indeed the referee.
Wasn't  at the game........sorry I mised it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 01:08:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
Think u are making an assumption Culchie and perhaps barking up the wrong tree.?....Sure I am familiar with more tha a few of the Portglenone players and indeed the referee.
Wasn't  at the game........sorry I mised it.

So from this post we can say that anything from the match you quoted was full of shoite ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 24, 2015, 02:46:13 AM
As I said before this was a mini storm in a teacup. On a scale of one to ten this was a two in  Antrim football circles and wouldn't even register on the scale in neighbouring counties. St Galls were the better team - great team great club. Appreciate them when we can. End of. Nothing else to see here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
Well Mr2 those charged with discipline will make thei,ir determination on the goings on in Portglenone ladt week and although I am sure the little guy who sits on the lofty chair would prefer to deal with those ruffians from Toome given the opportunity I think a big slap on the wrist is inevitable.
As I said the halo slipped on this occassion despite Bannside's all too loud protestations, and his vigorous 'tugging on the forelock'.
Do u assume the neutetal ref present was asleep at the wheel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on May 24, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
A cargin referee is hardly neutral lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 10:14:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
Well Mr2 those charged with discipline will make thei,ir determination on the goings on in Portglenone ladt week and although I am sure the little guy who sits on the lofty chair would prefer to deal with those ruffians from Toome given the opportunity I think a big slap on the wrist is inevitable.
As I said the halo slipped on this occassion despite Bannside's all too loud protestations, and his vigorous 'tugging on the forelock'.
Do u assume the neutetal ref present was asleep at the wheel?

Honestly, you're like a dog with a bone (er). Everyone has said what will be will be, let the man in the middle do his job, and if there are punishments then so be it, we've lost big players before and still managed to do well, so I don't think it will make any real difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 24, 2015, 12:17:31 PM
I am not condoning what St Galls are alleged to have did but a Cargin man lecturing on violence is laughable. Correct me if I am wrong but did they not once upon a time break a leg of one of the Hamill's from Glenavy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
Such drivel does not warrant response SH........but suffice to say such is a brave statement of a libellous nature coming from someone who has neither club or name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 24, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
I did say I was open to correction?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on May 24, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Why did St Galls send a text to players/members telling them not to discuss the goings on the other night? Circling the wagons/ covering up/ getting their story straight??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 24, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Why did St Galls send a text to players/members telling them not to discuss the goings on the other night? Circling the wagons/ covering up/ getting their story straight??

Are you asking and answering your own question??  Still waiting on that text
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on May 24, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 24, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Why did St Galls send a text to players/members telling them not to discuss the goings on the other night? Circling the wagons/ covering up/ getting their story straight??

Are you asking and answering your own question??  Still waiting on that text

Asking...and yes it was sent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2015, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 24, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 24, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Why did St Galls send a text to players/members telling them not to discuss the goings on the other night? Circling the wagons/ covering up/ getting their story straight??

Are you asking and answering your own question??  Still waiting on that text

Asking...and yes it was sent

Must have been to just players, and not members as you've stated wrongly..... Again it will be down to the referee report, sending texts means feck all surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 25, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
Sad to mention the passing of long standing Roger Casements Portglenone official,  PRO, pitch convener, county delegate and total gentleman Seamus Kearney. A huge loss to our club and our parish. Thoughts and prayers go out to his immediate family circle at this difficult time. Brother of club secretary Martin and father of recently retired club fullback John. May he rest in peace. Funeral on Wednesday in Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 25, 2015, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on May 24, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
A cargin referee is hardly neutral lol
Would you make suggestion that some of our officials are a tad biased MBandAll ?.................sure some Cargin people have suggested the same for a long time, and and may well have included one of ur own in that number  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 26, 2015, 01:52:24 PM
What's the feel ahead of the Fermanagh match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on May 27, 2015, 01:17:09 PM
I think the lack of replies tells you all you need to know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 27, 2015, 01:28:08 PM
Jeez is it really that bad up there?

I'm hearing the GAA in general in Antrim is at an all time low.. Casement, count board rows, hurling relegation,, but surely the footballers can put it up to Fermanagh? It's only Fermanagh ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on May 28, 2015, 12:08:06 PM
I think we have a great chance v Fermanagh, the mood within the football camp is very positive. Fermanagh have had a great year so far, and are now two divisions above us. But we were not far off promotion ourselves, and the asap between isn't that big. Cant see either team setting up as they did last year an it will be more defensive all round. Wont be much in it, travelling with a bit of hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on May 29, 2015, 01:30:21 AM
team named vs fermanagh,, any thoughts?

c.kerr

r.johnson
s.mcveigh
c.burke

j.crozier
t.scullion
n.delargy

c.murray
m.sweeney

j.laverty
o.gallacher
p.mcbride

cj.mcgourty
m.pollock
r.murray

subs:
g.walls
d.lynch
p.mcaleer
j.dowling
b.hasson
k.mcgourty
n.oneill
d.mcaleese
r.mcgrady
c.duffin
m.armstrong

strong enough to beat fermanagh?? any1 have any changes they would make

no niall mckeever or marty johnston.. stil injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on May 29, 2015, 08:17:26 AM
In an age of odd tactical decisions and line outs, surely Antrim's no midfield approach is right up there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on May 29, 2015, 08:21:23 AM
They do have a midfield

Its in their fb line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on May 29, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
Seriously tho, I think it could be a good approach having two very mobile players at mf - kickouts are less and less a hoofed ball to mf, and they could make hay on the ground. Time will tell I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
What is Burke like pace wise? I've not seen much of him?

It's a big physical full back line him aside though I wouldn't be sure what would happen if there was a lot of pace in the FF line...

I guess Delargy / Laverty could be moved in if needbe. Laverty in HF an interesting one - shows a defensive move,

Going to be a very defensive setup I suspect!

On the plus side there are scores in that FF line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2015, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 29, 2015, 08:26:52 AM
What is Burke like pace wise? I've not seen much of him?

It's a big physical full back line him aside though I wouldn't be sure what would happen if there was a lot of pace in the FF line...

I guess Delargy / Laverty could be moved in if needbe. Laverty in HF an interesting one - shows a defensive move,

Going to be a very defensive setup I suspect!

On the plus side there are scores in that FF line.

He's quicker than his brother!! but in all fairness he's been around county teams and the set ups right from under 12 so he'll fit in well (commentators curse) so  wouldn't as such look at him as a weak link in the fullback line......

If we can't go out there and have the mindset that we can't beat Fermanagh then we are doomed (I tell ya) the jersey and ground won't have the same pressure than the likes of Armagh and Omagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2015, 10:37:48 AM
We have the same chance as we had last year so we definitely have a chance. I think as most people I would be hopeful rather than optimistic.

I was asking on Burke as if he's as big as the brother the 3 of them boys make up a big full back line which could be good if there's a big full forward line - but there's no one there for a small quick forward!! (of which Fermanagh have a few)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 29, 2015, 11:01:32 AM
Looks to be a very defensive setup alright & i will be surprised to see cj (big fitness doubt), ryan murray & pollock all start.

mcbride & laverty are both good at carrying the ball from deep.

i thought hasson would have started as he played all national league games.

quigley would be a big fear for us, but mcveigh is the man to do a job there, delargy or tony could mark a sharp corner forward but if we play defensively they shouldnt have any space to cause any damage.

if we get a bit of luck a win is possible!

our minors have a strong squad also!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Is the minor team announced?? We would be favourites in the minors I suspect. We actually aren't bad in minor these days and Fermanagh are never good either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 29, 2015, 11:54:08 AM
havent heard team but strong panel from what i seen in antrim post this week!

found it on county website:

Antrim Ulster Minor Football League Panel - 2015


Brogan Austin St Brigid's
Pat Branagan St. Mary's Aghagallon
Donal Carey Kickham's Creggan
Brendan Corr Gort na Mona
Niall Crossan Rossa
Caoimhin Daykin Eire Og
Pearse Downey St. Mary's Ahoghill
Odhran Eastwood St Enda's
Joseph Finnegan St Brigid's
Patrick Finnegan St Brigid's
Cameron Flynn Lamh Dhearg
Eamon Fyfe Con Magee's Glenravel
Christopher Gallagher Davitts
Ciaran Garland St John's
Andrew Hasson St. Mary's Rasharkin
Conor King St Brigid's
Conan Lyttle St Enda's
Daniel Martin Tir na Nog
Joe Maskey St Enda's
Cormac Murray Sarsfields
Gavin Murray St. Ergnat's Moneyglass
Barry McCormick Tir na Nog
Darren McCormick Tir na Nog
Conor McKenna St John's
Ben Rice Lamh Dhearg
Conor Small Kickham's Creggan
Conor Smyth St Teresa's
Conor Stinton St Gall's
Eunan Walsh St. Mary's Aghagallon
Gerard Walsh Rossa
Peter Webb St Brigid's

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2015, 12:24:15 PM
Cheers culchie - couldn't find it.

Some decent players there and a few surnames we should recognise pretty well too.

Good spread of clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on May 29, 2015, 03:25:23 PM
There are a lot of those minors in their first year at U18, including all of the St Brigids contingent I think. This time next year they will be major players for us, maybe too early this year though will be interesting to see how the Finnegans get on if they feature.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 29, 2015, 09:02:57 PM
Has the minor team been named?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
Big shout out to all players and management of both teams tomorrow. We did the double last year and it's far from impossible to do the same tomorrow. Expect the minors to get the day off to a good start and that can be a great boost to the seniors.

See we are 4/1 in the senior game. That's a big price and I think it will be a lot closer than that especially if both teams set up defensively.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
Firstly a big congrats to the minor management and players on a job well done.

Seniors will have their own post mortems.  We hung in with Fermanagh for a long time - at 55 mins we were just a point down. But the loss of a man went against us as space started open up for Fermanagh in the last quarter. We weren't disgraced and it wasn't by any stretch an eight point game.

The availability of any three or four from Mick, Niblock, Kobo, Aidso, big Niall, Tomas, Kelly, Burke, Magill would have been enough. There is not only 9 players missing but also nine experienced leaders. I understand there is a reason for each of their absences, but unfortunately we need to find some way of getting our county's best players on the pitch.

That's the problem. Finding the solution might take a bit longer!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2015, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
Firstly a big congrats to the minor management and players on a job well done.

Seniors will have their own post mortems.  We hung in with Fermanagh for a long time - at 55 mins we were just a point down. But the loss of a man went against us as space started open up for Fermanagh in the last quarter. We weren't disgraced and it wasn't by any stretch an eight point game.

The availability of any three or four from Mick, Niblock, Kobo, Aidso, big Niall, Tomas, Kelly, Burke, Magill would have been enough. There is not only 9 players missing but also nine experienced leaders. I understand there is a reason for each of their absences, but unfortunately we need to find some way of getting our county's best players on the pitch.

That's the problem. Finding the solution might take a bit longer!

What did you think of young Burke Bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 06:29:20 AM
Conor Burke was outstanding MR2. Our best player on the day. At least we have found a true full back and he is only 20/21. Antrim have had a problem filling this position since Martin Mulholland.  So that's one positive to take from yesterday. Thought our defence overall was solid good for the best part. It was up front we were toothless and the ball wasn't sticking. Predicted this. Two words for the qualifiers. Niblock and Magill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 07:32:43 AM
Two others very large plusses yesterday were in midfield for our minors. Write those two names down for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 09:49:42 AM
Madden on Monday makes for good reading today. Insightful and on the money. Pulls no punches with the gross ineptitude of our "county board" who should be holding their heads in shame at this stage.

We managed two points from play in 70 minutes yesterday against a very poor Fermanagh team. And I paid £80 at the gate for two adults and two juveniles for that privilege.

The really frustrating thing about it all is that we have the players in Antrim to be competitive. All hands to the deck with good support structures and we are definitely 100% better than this.







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 01, 2015, 09:55:30 AM
Just watched the recording of Sunday game, why didn't CJ start? Definitely missing some physicality in the FF line. Antrim have good players missing as it's well documented. You'd love to see how well you'd fair for one season with everyone on board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 01, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Why is O'Boyle missing BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on June 01, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2015, 09:49:42 AM
Madden on Monday makes for good reading today. Insightful and on the money. Pulls no punches with the gross ineptitude of our "county board" who should be holding their heads in shame at this stage.

We managed two points from play in 70 minutes yesterday against a very poor Fermanagh team. And I paid £80 at the gate for two adults and two juveniles for that privilege.

The really frustrating thing about it all is that we have the players in Antrim to be competitive. All hands to the deck with good support structures and we are definitely 100% better than this.

There you go again, have a bit more respect for the opposition. Fermanagh where promoted to Div 2 this year, on merit, but here you are running them down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on June 01, 2015, 10:04:29 AM
Very surprised to see Pollock taken off so early - and he looked dejected leaving the pitch. Also taking Owen Gallagher and Ryan Murray off meant three serious forwards were off the park. CJ had his radar switched on for the frees but other than that he had very little involvement. I thought Kieran McGourty showed very well. IMO Antrim have classy footballers but don't seem to have any belief.
Early on Antrim won all their own kick outs - great movement and availability for Chris Kerr to pick a man out. But that stopped. Don't know why!

Fermanagh get the most out of themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 10:06:59 AM
Not disrespect at all OLG. They are a decent team but were poor enough yesterday and that's the concensus from the Fermanagh supporters O spoke to. They were poor enough yesterday up to last 10 minutes.  Good luck to them going forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 01, 2015, 10:08:13 AM
Poor game, poor performance. A disappointing day for the most part when hopes had been quite high - in our car anyway.

At least we have the hurlers to look forward to. Oh, wait.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 01, 2015, 10:09:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2015, 09:49:42 AM
Madden on Monday makes for good reading today. Insightful and on the money. Pulls no punches with the gross ineptitude of our "county board" who should be holding their heads in shame at this stage.

We managed two points from play in 70 minutes yesterday against a very poor Fermanagh team. And I paid £80 at the gate for two adults and two juveniles for that privilege.

The really frustrating thing about it all is that we have the players in Antrim to be competitive. All hands to the deck with good support structures and we are definitely 100% better than this.

What did you Antrim stalwarts think of the set up of the team and the sideline decisions?  I would think if you're going to bring on McGourty after 20 mins, when he clearly wasn't 100%, you would want him to get the ball in hand.  The Antrim no 14 has more time on the ball in his 20 mins than CJ had in the next 50.  The no 12 (McBride?) was replaced at half time and i thought he was one of Antrim's better performers in the first half, maybe he was injured.  Again the full back Johnston was replaced and i thought he did quite well, maybe he was running out of steam.

A couple of small pluses for Antrim to take the edge off a low for them.  Dowling the no 19 fielded 3 or 4 balls he had no right to win and looks a player with potential, he has to stop fouling tho.  I actually thought the full back line did well.  Burke never put a foot wrong and Fermanagh's big full forward never got a look in.  Conor Murray did well running at Fermanagh in the 2nd half and drew 3 or 4 frees.  Antrim were slick enough moving it up the field but couldn't find free players inside the Fermanagh 45.  Finally as another poster said there are some good footballers in the minors, the midfielder Cormac Murray? was immense.

That was a poor Fermanagh team who really have to up their game to avoid a tanking against Monaghan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 01, 2015, 10:10:18 AM
Best thing about the day was the minor team. In speaking to Fermanagh folk at the game its clear that their minor setup is not good, and taking the team seems to be something of a poisoned chalice. But - our lads looked very strong, some standout individual performances. Hopefully the team captain - Conor Small - went off with cramp and nothing more serious. Be interesting to see how they get on against stronger opposition. The goal was terrific.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 01, 2015, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 01, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2015, 09:49:42 AM
Madden on Monday makes for good reading today. Insightful and on the money. Pulls no punches with the gross ineptitude of our "county board" who should be holding their heads in shame at this stage.

We managed two points from play in 70 minutes yesterday against a very poor Fermanagh team. And I paid £80 at the gate for two adults and two juveniles for that privilege.

The really frustrating thing about it all is that we have the players in Antrim to be competitive. All hands to the deck with good support structures and we are definitely 100% better than this.

There you go again, have a bit more respect for the opposition. Fermanagh where promoted to Div 2 this year, on merit, but here you are running them down.

To be fair to bannside, he's calling it as it is.  I was at the match.  First time I've seen Fermanagh live in a long while.  On that performance they're going to struggle in Div 2.  A lot of Duracell bunny stuff sideways but not huge quality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
Kobo out for most of the year with ankle injury WC and as far as I know he picked up another injury (maybe the same one) after that when coming good.

To be fair to Fitzy he did keep the door open, both publicly and privately,  to just about every quality player in the county ( though I think he may have been a bit hasty with Michael Magill) but I can't think of any others.

CJ hadn't trained for weeks with a bad hip injury so that's why he didn't start. Whilst he kept us in ir with some excellent frees, he was non existent in open play. Likewise Pollock was on the sick list with a hamstring tear which was obviously affecting him. I called for his substitution 5 mins before it happened. He wasn't at the races and squandered three or four half chances before being called in. That's too many at this level.

Paddy Mc Bride is a player I really do like but he was poor by his standards too. Likewise Gallagher. Missed or coughed up a few times when more assurance needed. We were depending on him winning his duel with Ryan Mc Cluskey but that wasn't happening.

Fitzy got all those calls spot on (in my book anyway).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on June 01, 2015, 10:38:23 AM
Fermanagh played the worst they have played all year.
We were poor.
We seemed happy to win by a few points.
Cosidering donnelly was not there and we lost mccluskey and r corrigan I was happy enough to come through it.
The Antrim tactic of playing k mcgourty out the field suited marty O'Brien. He was very destructive from open play.


Antrim were playing players who clearly had not trained.
Looked very unfit.
Conor Burke was excellent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on June 01, 2015, 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on June 01, 2015, 10:10:18 AM
Best thing about the day was the minor team. In speaking to Fermanagh folk at the game its clear that their minor setup is not good, and taking the team seems to be something of a poisoned chalice. But - our lads looked very strong, some standout individual performances. Hopefully the team captain - Conor Small - went off with cramp and nothing more serious. Be interesting to see how they get on against stronger opposition. The goal was terrific.

Our minor set up is not good and hasn't been for years
If it was not for the work that goes on in St Michael's we as a county would have nothing coming through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on June 01, 2015, 10:50:49 AM
I thought Kieran McGourty was outstanding on the ball, the problem was we were so defensive we had no ball winners or support for when the ffs did occasionally win the ball. Matthew Fitzpatrick (while unproven) leaving the panel for the states was a big loss as he is a serious ballwinner as shown for the Ranch and the Jonnies. I was disappointed with Gallagher he is better than that but was like a rabbit caught in headlights on several occasions. By my reckoning Antrim were missing about 12 players who would improve the panel but what can Russ do when they dont want to play. Its depressing stuff being an Antrim Follower, I firmly believe the talent is there especially with the football but there just doesn't seem to be the passion and pride that every other ulster county has in representing the jersey.

The red card affected the game however with antrims tactics even with 15 men I didnt see them getting the scores to win unless we got a fortuitous goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 01, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: FermGael on June 01, 2015, 10:38:23 AM
Fermanagh played the worst they have played all year.
We were poor.
We seemed happy to win by a few points.
Cosidering donnelly was not there and we lost mccluskey and r corrigan I was happy enough to come through it.
The Antrim tactic of playing k mcgourty out the field suited marty O'Brien. He was very destructive from open play.


Antrim were playing players who clearly had not trained.
Looked very unfit.
Conor Burke was excellent.

Must be the fault that fitness coach from Fermanagh!  Expect to see fitness level perk up for the qualifiers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on June 01, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on June 01, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
Quote from: FermGael on June 01, 2015, 10:38:23 AM
Fermanagh played the worst they have played all year.
We were poor.
We seemed happy to win by a few points.
Cosidering donnelly was not there and we lost mccluskey and r corrigan I was happy enough to come through it.
The Antrim tactic of playing k mcgourty out the field suited marty O'Brien. He was very destructive from open play.


Antrim were playing players who clearly had not trained.
Looked very unfit.
Conor Burke was excellent.

Must be the fault that fitness coach from Fermanagh!   Expect to see fitness level perk up for the qualifiers
Mike McGurn is a Strength and Conditioning coach.
One of the very best in the business.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2015, 11:07:06 AM
Kieran McGourty was very good - very clever on the ball as he always has been for st galls. Young burke great too. I thought Scullion was actually lucky not to get the line as he swing a few times at a fermanagh boy.

I thought the fitness was a bit off from one or two players too as they tired a lot.

As stated we were good up until the 45 yard line and then it all went wrong. If we can address that then depending on who we get in the qualifiers you never know.

Anyone got the minor lineup? Can't find it though guess it's in the Irish news?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
Agree that Kieran McGourty has been a big asset - a really safe pair of hands.

Brother CJ must be able to do much more for us in open play, especially if taking up a berth around the 40 where you need a supersize engine in today's game.

The lack of a presence at CHF or around that part of the pitch was a real problem. Often players were lacking support for a lay off when it was needed. It was a long way up that pitch and an outlet was needed to provide the vital  link up  that was missing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 01, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
Agree that Kieran McGourty has been a big asset - a really safe pair of hands.

Brother CJ must be able to do much more for us in open play, especially if taking up a berth around the 40 where you need a supersize engine in today's game.

The lack of a presence at CHF or around that part of the pitch was a real problem. Often players were lacking support for a lay off when it was needed. It was a long way up that pitch and an outlet was needed to provide the vital  link up  that was missing.

Maybe I'm old fashioned bannside but I thought Antrim could have done a lot worse than to stick Dowling in at FF  after 55 mins and boot the ball high into the air to him!  He'd have probably won 50% of those.  Giving my age away there!  Or put him in at CHF to win a bit of ball inside the 45.  I was sitting up at the end Antrim were attacking in the 2nd half and after they worked the ball in you could see players in possession looking up and all they could see were 3 saffron jerseys against 8 green ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 01, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Another championship defeat and those who hammer their keyboards can have no hope in their hearts........we are languishing at the bottom of the heap and even the most ardent optimist within the ranks of the long suffering followers of the Saffron would struggle to look forward.
Kevin Madden was spot on in the Irish News.
We are a county who constantly field without our best players, have no training facilities or structured development planning and are led by a county board which looks on the polishing of egos as their main concern.
As to the future..........well consider who is the front runner for the chairman's post!
Jeez we were beaten by Fermanagh..........I am quite sure Cargin would give them a run for it and St Gall's would most likely beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 01, 2015, 03:22:06 PM
Lets just be honest and admit it, we are absolute kack.

The main focus of the clubs is the county championship and nothing else. Its the only place will achieve success. Togging out for the county is meanngless in the grand scheme of things.

Not having a training pitch is a lame excuse. Even if we had the very best if resources we would still falter perpetually.

We just dont have the desire or ambition to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 01, 2015, 03:40:40 PM
I didn't realise until I overheard two Antrim men saying yesterday that ye don't even have you're own home ground! I know Casement Park has been taken over by the Ulster Council, but you'd think Antrim would have first pick as to where the matches are played in Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 01, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
The training ground issue is a red herring. Of course we want to see Dunsilly up and running, but in the meantime our players have all the facilities they need at their disposal - its not an issue.

Where did we lose yesterday's match? Up front. We scored 2 bloody points from play, having a dedicated training ground wouldn't have solved that. Having scoring forwards would have.  If players and clubs made playing for the county a benchmark and all players made themselves available and committed to the panel, how different would yesterdays team have been? McCanns x 2, KN, Bam. There's 4 for starters who would have played. KOBO if fit would make 5. If those 5 were fit and had been playing, we would have won. I don't have any doubt about that.

Now if Bam, Niblock and others choose not to play, I'm not sure there is much the current manager can do about that either. Between us all though we have to create the circumstances where players - all players - strive to play for the county. We don't have that.

That's an attitude issue, a county wide attitude issue, and is nothing to do with not having a training pitch. I don't have the answers - wish I did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
Not such a bad idea PB. Nothing to lose by thinking outside the box (literally)Imagine two or three giants in there (Benny Hasson, Niall McKeever too lol). It's only a matter of time until someone tries this to beat the current defensive "blanket".

Even more so as very few goalkeepers are pinging it straight down the middle any more. That's just 50/50 and nowadays most keepers will hit a spare player out on the wing ( as Chris was doing yesterday for a while until he ran out of options). His putting the ball into big Jacks hands was excellent too.

All in all its a depressing day when things are weighed up. Maybe a few fresh faces back in time for the qualifiers might lift the gloom.

Not sure the management could have done a lot better, given injuries, unavailability and sending offs. A rotten day apart from a few notable individual performances and the emergence of a few real quality minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on June 01, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 01, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Another championship defeat and those who hammer their keyboards can have no hope in their hearts........we are languishing at the bottom of the heap and even the most ardent optimist within the ranks of the long suffering followers of the Saffron would struggle to look forward.
Kevin Madden was spot on in the Irish News.
We are a county who constantly field without our best players, have no training facilities or structured development planning and are led by a county board which looks on the polishing of egos as their main concern.
As to the future..........well consider who is the front runner for the chairman's post!
Jeez we were beaten by Fermanagh..........I am quite sure Cargin would give them a run for it and St Gall's would most likely beat them.

You can't be serious?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 01, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on June 01, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
The training ground issue is a red herring. Of course we want to see Dunsilly up and running, but in the meantime our players have all the facilities they need at their disposal - its not an issue.

Where did we lose yesterday's match? Up front. We scored 2 bloody points from play, having a dedicated training ground wouldn't have solved that. Having scoring forwards would have.  If players and clubs made playing for the county a benchmark and all players made themselves available and committed to the panel, how different would yesterdays team have been? McCanns x 2, KN, Bam. There's 4 for starters who would have played. KOBO if fit would make 5. If those 5 were fit and had been playing, we would have won. I don't have any doubt about that.

Now if Bam, Niblock and others choose not to play, I'm not sure there is much the current manager can do about that either. Between us all though we have to create the circumstances where players - all players - strive to play for the county. We don't have that.

That's an attitude issue, a county wide attitude issue, and is nothing to do with not having a training pitch. I don't have the answers - wish I did.
+1
You would think this thread would begin to run out of excuses.  It would seem we in Antrim have a range of excuses everytime we come up short.  The habit of losing year in year out, you would think we would have exhausted all the excuses, but not us.  We are a laughing stock throughout Ireland and have only ourselves to blame. Scrap the CB, County Football and Hurling teams and just focus on the club games, sure that's the only place we are competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 01, 2015, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2015, 11:07:06 AM
Kieran McGourty was very good - very clever on the ball as he always has been for st galls. Young burke great too. I thought Scullion was actually lucky not to get the line as he swing a few times at a fermanagh boy.

I thought the fitness was a bit off from one or two players too as they tired a lot.

As stated we were good up until the 45 yard line and then it all went wrong. If we can address that then depending on who we get in the qualifiers you never know.

Anyone got the minor lineup? Can't find it though guess it's in the Irish news?

I held on to the programme imtommygunn:

Gavin Murray - Moneyglass

Ciaran Garland - St Johns
Conor King - St Brigids
Cameron Flynn - Lamh Dhearg

Eunan Walsh - Aghagallon
Donal Carey - Creggan
Barry McCormick - Randalstown

Gerard Walsh - Rossa
Cormac Murphy - Sarsfields

Ben Rice - Lamh Dhearg
Conor Small - Creggan
Eamon Fyfe - Glenravel

Odhran Eastwood - St Endas
Brendan Corr - Gort Na Mona
CJ McKenna - St Johns

Subs:
Christopher Gallagher - Davitts
Conan Lyttle - St Endas
Niall Crossan - Rossa
Patrick Finnegan - St Brigids
Patrick McCormick - Moneyglass
Joe Maskey - St Endas
Kevin Small - Creggan
Darren McCormick - Randalstown
Conor Stinson - St Galls

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 03, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
No St Galls Minors starting and only 1 on the panel?  Is the talent pool drying up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2015, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 03, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
No St Galls Minors starting and only 1 on the panel?  Is the talent pool drying up?

Finished, and looking at that panel (cause that will decide who wins the championships) Creggan and the Johnnies and St Endas will be winning it soon  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Awful sensitive MR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Awful sensitive MR

I'm not, but really come one?? Looking at minor teams for the county and equating that for championship glory at senior level? Sure there was a while back ya had 6/7 Cargin lads on the senior panel and 1 Galls man.. and on that panel ya don't even have a Cargin player.

Do you think Tommy that it should reflect more?  As I said we are slowly but surely coming to an end of control senior football in Antrim, its been a blast and the lads are a great bunch of players for the club, but things come to an end.. It won't be a major shock when it eventually happens
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2015, 03:34:15 PM
In time, if it's recurring, it will catch up  but it will take a while and this year is only one year. If you have a run of 5 or 6 years like that then it would be a worry for you yes but not just yet. It is interesting to see no cargin or st galls players on it. Doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but if it keeps happening it will mean something.

There's still a bit of life in your team yet and with the like of that Burke and a few others you're not all over the hill yet.  You do have to be beat eventually though. Every year people think it's different and it never is and I suspect that will go on for a while yet!

You're up there to be knocked down - take it as a compliment...



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2015, 03:34:15 PM
In time, if it's recurring, it will catch up  but it will take a while and this year is only one year. If you have a run of 5 or 6 years like that then it would be a worry for you yes but not just yet. It is interesting to see no cargin or st galls players on it. Doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but if it keeps happening it will mean something.

There's still a bit of life in your team yet and with the like of that Burke and a few others you're not all over the hill yet.  You do have to be beat eventually though. Every year people think it's different and it never is and I suspect that will go on for a while yet!

You're up there to be knocked down - take it as a compliment...

Look not that long ago I remember going to watch our seniors in Div 2 so we've been down and turned it around. looking back at that it was dreadfull but happens to all clubs... It's how you turn things around thats telling... we've a great wee dual team coming through with a lot of kids related to seniors and ex seniors, great motivation for them and good signs for the club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on June 03, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Disappointing on sunday for our senior footballers, sending off had a bearing on the game, but oour lack of support to our 2 man full forward line would have resulted in the same result anyway. We coughed up the ball numerous times by running into green jerseys.

Be interesting to see who stays on board for qualifiers & who jumps ship.

For what it is worth i thought the full back line were v good, Burke got the plaudits for marking Quigley, but i thought Ricky Johnston & Delargy both did equally as well.

The minors did well in the 2nd half when the cut out the stupid mistakes, of which cost us 2-1 in the 1st half. We were winning ball at midfield & then decided to change it, which confused everyone around me, Fermanagh supporters too.

The St Galls player on the minor panel is a blow in from St Patrick's Lisburn at that!
He is not alone on the panel as there are 3 in total who have switched clubs that i know of.
Seems to be rife at the moment in the Aldergrove/Glenavy area moving to West Belfast clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 03, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on June 03, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Disappointing on sunday for our senior footballers, sending off had a bearing on the game, but oour lack of support to our 2 man full forward line would have resulted in the same result anyway. We coughed up the ball numerous times by running into green jerseys.

Be interesting to see who stays on board for qualifiers & who jumps ship.

For what it is worth i thought the full back line were v good, Burke got the plaudits for marking Quigley, but i thought Ricky Johnston & Delargy both did equally as well.

The minors did well in the 2nd half when the cut out the stupid mistakes, of which cost us 2-1 in the 1st half. We were winning ball at midfield & then decided to change it, which confused everyone around me, Fermanagh supporters too.

The St Galls player on the minor panel is a blow in from St Patrick's Lisburn at that!
He is not alone on the panel as there are 3 in total who have switched clubs that i know of.
Seems to be rife at the moment in the Aldergrove/Glenavy area moving to West Belfast clubs.


If true what is the motivation??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on June 01, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 01, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Another championship defeat and those who hammer their keyboards can have no hope in their hearts........we are languishing at the bottom of the heap and even the most ardent optimist within the ranks of the long suffering followers of the Saffron would struggle to look forward.
Kevin Madden was spot on in the Irish News.
We are a county who constantly field without our best players, have no training facilities or structured development planning and are led by a county board which looks on the polishing of egos as their main concern.
As to the future..........well consider who is the front runner for the chairman's post!
Jeez we were beaten by Fermanagh..........I am quite sure Cargin would give them a run for it and St Gall's would most likely beat them.

You can't be serious?
Serious indeed and hanging my head in shame.......Sorry but Fermanagh were,and I think are a poor side indeed.......Antrim were hanging in there untul a few minutes from the end......a man down..........and forced into action without the likes of Niblock, Sean Kelly, Bam Neeson, Aodhan Gallagher, Sean Burke, Kobo O' Boyle, the Mc Canns (Mick, Tomas, and Paul) M Magill etc..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on June 03, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on June 01, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 01, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Another championship defeat and those who hammer their keyboards can have no hope in their hearts........we are languishing at the bottom of the heap and even the most ardent optimist within the ranks of the long suffering followers of the Saffron would struggle to look forward.
Kevin Madden was spot on in the Irish News.
We are a county who constantly field without our best players, have no training facilities or structured development planning and are led by a county board which looks on the polishing of egos as their main concern.
As to the future..........well consider who is the front runner for the chairman's post!
Jeez we were beaten by Fermanagh..........I am quite sure Cargin would give them a run for it and St Gall's would most likely beat them.

You can't be serious?
Serious indeed and hanging my head in shame.......Sorry but Fermanagh were,and I think are a poor side indeed.......Antrim were hanging in there untul a few minutes from the end......a man down..........and forced into action without the likes of Niblock, Sean Kelly, Bam Neeson, Aodhan Gallagher, Sean Burke, Kobo O' Boyle, the Mc Canns (Mick, Tomas, and Paul) M Magill etc..........

I've watched Cargin recently and they wouldn't get within 15 points of Fermanagh.  They scored 7 points (if I remember correctly) against Lamh Dearg at the game I attended and they were poor.  I don't think St Galls would have any forward other than Niblock who would start for Fermanagh.

I've no doubt that St Gall's and Cargin are good club teams with plenty of good players, but it's nonsense to suggest they would beat a well drilled county team who have been promoted to Division 2.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2015, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on June 03, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Disappointing on sunday for our senior footballers, sending off had a bearing on the game, but oour lack of support to our 2 man full forward line would have resulted in the same result anyway. We coughed up the ball numerous times by running into green jerseys.

Be interesting to see who stays on board for qualifiers & who jumps ship.

For what it is worth i thought the full back line were v good, Burke got the plaudits for marking Quigley, but i thought Ricky Johnston & Delargy both did equally as well.

The minors did well in the 2nd half when the cut out the stupid mistakes, of which cost us 2-1 in the 1st half. We were winning ball at midfield & then decided to change it, which confused everyone around me, Fermanagh supporters too.

The St Galls player on the minor panel is a blow in from St Patrick's Lisburn at that!
He is not alone on the panel as there are 3 in total who have switched clubs that i know of.
Seems to be rife at the moment in the Aldergrove/Glenavy area moving to West Belfast clubs.

Think the lad had always hurled for St Galls so not a blow in of sorts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on June 03, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
Some serious disrespect being shown to Fermanagh by a few on here.  They are not a poor team by any means, they just didnt play to their best.  They have really developed and have some good players who have earned the right to be playing Division 2 next year.  Whether or not they struggle remains to be seen but I'm sure they would rather be struggling/competing in Div2 than struggling in Div4! 

Antrim will not compete until they have their best players playing (together), sort out the whole setup and also improve the standard of club football.

I am a Down supporter and believe we too have a lot to do to catch up on others. I just felt some comments regarding fermanagh were harsh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on June 04, 2015, 08:51:28 AM
I agree with outinfront - fermanagh are in division 2 by merit and antrim have to shake off the ego that is attached.  We have been unsuccessful since 2009 outside of beating a weak galway side in the qualifiers.  Fermanagh have limited clubs to pick from and their progress has to be admired.  in 2010 we ran an up and coming monaghan team close but now they are miles ahead - you could also throw cavan into that statement.

Players available or not this will always be the case, one mans team is different from the next so the perfect team will never be there as is the case for EVERY county in Ireland.
With the correct structure in place and pride in actually wanted to play for the county to win as opposed to the status of it we will start to move up the ranks but until we sweep the floor clean and show ambition with a seasoned manager, use of good facilities and a mentality of trying to win rather than be defensive as this suits the donegals,tyrones of this world but not an antrim,fermanagh, cavan size of team - create our own identity.

I was down at the game and felt minors showed wonderful potential, young burke in the seniors was a massive plus, mc veigh was a loss but deserved the red card (although i dont think it was intent but a reaction just).  Cj hit a few frees but feel at that level physically he offers nothing and contributes more to himself than others.  His brother Kieran on the other hand is the opposite and is a team player with a fantastic football brain.  Pollock had an off day but is effective when confidence is up and young murray also a fine asset.

I just hope the open door policy is still not in place as it gives the manager an out and not fair on the current crop of players.  Whatever the draw i feel we need to look beyond trying to stop a team and go out and put our best foot forward - longford done this and got distroyed by dublin but I have to admire the managers morals on how he wants that team to move forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 04, 2015, 09:10:40 AM
Watched the 'two best teams in antrim' last night and albeit both teams were missing a few it was a terrible standard . For me niblock was the only one who looked county standard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
Niblock currently far and away the best player in the county right now. He was awesome against us last week and if anything his year out from county football has left him fresher. He is in better shape than ever too.

I'm picking up that he won't be back near the county due to a dispute with county Treasurer to do with something of a financial matter. Could be physio bills or something , I'm not too sure.

Now if this is true it is an absolute disgrace. In any other county a resolution would be found,  but our know all (know nothing) totally inept board wouldn't have the capacity to resolve a minor issue like this. In other counties this would have been sorted as a priority long ago....but our board don't do resolution. It's their way or nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
Rossa not a team to be underestimated by anyone. They sent us packing last night and they were missing half a dozen starters too. Good footballing side with plenty of pace and no shortage of flair too. Underestimate them at your peril.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 04, 2015, 07:05:39 PM
Quote from: outinfront on June 03, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
Some serious disrespect being shown to Fermanagh by a few on here.  They are not a poor team by any means, they just didnt play to their best.  They have really developed and have some good players who have earned the right to be playing Division 2 next year.  Whether or not they struggle remains to be seen but I'm sure they would rather be struggling/competing in Div2 than struggling in Div4! 

Antrim will not compete until they have their best players playing (together), sort out the whole setup and also improve the standard of club football.

I am a Down supporter and believe we too have a lot to do to catch up on others. I just felt some comments regarding fermanagh were harsh.
Inflammatory and negative comments are a pre-requisite trait for all Antrim people, its the persecution complex we all suffer from.  You 100% right though, we have no rite at all criticising any team such as Fermanagh whilst we languish in Div. 4.   One thing is for sure also, we are not likely to get out of Division 4 any time soon!  Putting it mildly, whilst big Frank is a good guy a good servant to the county, I don't see he would have the appropriate credentials to bring about any great level of success, he probably proved to be the cheaper option?  We in Antrim are starved of success, we have not even tasted success, so we don't really know what to aspire to.  Regrettably, a dire state of affairs for the Saffron's.  But hey, come the revolution!

By the way, its my birthday tomorrow, 5/6/74, go on wish me Happy Birthday.  Will be celebrating it stateside with family and friends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2015, 11:04:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 04, 2015, 04:50:17 PM
Good win and performance for us last night alright. A bit of consistency now would be nice. Mickey Armstrong returned for us last night and made a big difference. Hope to get a few more back soon.

Who have Rossa got in the championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 04, 2015, 09:10:40 AM
Watched the 'two best teams in antrim' last night and albeit both teams were missing a few it was a terrible standard . For me niblock was the only one who looked county standard
Think you may well be a fan of the 'small ball game' mbandall.......or just plain hard to please.......was at the same game on the green sward on the Row and must disagree on ur undoubtedly unbiased opinion expressed thereon................the standard was quite good in a game which finished 1-13 o 1-10.
Whilst I do agree Kevin Niblock had a good game but he was matched in the middle throughout by the equally excellent John Carron, but the undoubtedly best 'player' on view was in fact Chris Kerr, who made several super saves during the sixty minutes and delivered all of his kick outs with the utmost precision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2015, 10:54:58 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 04, 2015, 09:10:40 AM
Watched the 'two best teams in antrim' last night and albeit both teams were missing a few it was a terrible standard . For me niblock was the only one who looked county standard
Think you may well be a fan of the 'small ball game' mbandall.......or just plain hard to please.......was at the same game on the green sward on the Row and must disagree on ur undoubtedly unbiased opinion expressed thereon................the standard was quite good in a game which finished 1-13 o 1-10.
Whilst I do agree Kevin Niblock had a good game but he was matched in the middle throughout by the equally excellent John Carron, but the undoubtedly best 'player' on view was in fact Chris Kerr, who made several super saves during the sixty minutes and delivered all of his kick outs with the utmost precision.

When people bring up the goalkeeper as the best player usually its sour grapes by the losing team ;-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
Haven't seen John Carron playing for a while but he is a great fielder who if fit would be a huge addition for Antrim come the qualifiers. If the ball is going to be pumped down the middle we need a bit more height than Mark Sweeney and Conor Murray. Can't see Niall Mc Keever back any time soon unfortunately.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on June 05, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
MR2 hardly sour grapes from country bumpkin, it was a compliment in my book. kerr is undoubtedly the best keeper in the county & will hopefully be as good a servant to antrim as mcgreevey was. one thing i would say about kerr is he doesnt communicate enough lol
maybe sour grapes if he blamed the ref or something along them lines. sure the league will mean nothing come championship.

bannside still no sign of big niall then, thats disappointing for him, his club & antrim. he would give county a great lift that is needed. do you know hasson didnt feature in fermanagh game?! seems an odd one to me that he didnt even get used as a sub?!
if what u say is true about niblock, i would like to think that it would be sorted as soon as possible, if frank knows about it, he should get it sorted. carron featured rightly i thought in mckenna cup, did he opt out at that stage or what happened?

we will need a shot in the arm for our qualifier match, think the draw is monday morning, which features mostly div 3 & 4 teams. cavan being the toughest team amongst them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
Could mballandall be related to MR2 ......I wonder.......sour grapes after losing a league game now that's one to consider.
May well be a tad biased in my opinion but that was how I saw it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
Could mballandall be related to MR2 ......I wonder.......sour grapes after losing a league game now that's one to consider.
May well be a tad biased in my opinion but that was how I saw it.

I put a wee smiley face on the end of the post, probably lost on you but hey  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2015, 05:39:42 PM
What's up with Niall McKeever BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 05, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
I assume then that you're not a fan of the small ball then bumpkin? But yes you are correct I am a fan of the small ball game alongside the big ball game. One of the benefits of having played both codes in a dual club. Yes carron had a good second half and clearly Kerr has been working on his kickouts but I stand by what I said, niblock my man of the match but just my opinion, don't take it personally ;).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
Could mballandall be related to MR2 ......I wonder.......sour grapes after losing a league game now that's one to consider.
May well be a tad biased in my opinion but that was how I saw it.

I put a wee smiley face on the end of the post, probably lost on you but hey  :o
Course ur little smiley face is lost on me MR2......sure although us Culchies/Bumpkins are a wee bit thick and we never ever hear the penny drop. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 05, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
I assume then that you're not a fan of the small ball then bumpkin? But yes you are correct I am a fan of the small ball game alongside the big ball game. One of the benefits of having played both codes in a dual club. Yes carron had a good second half and clearly Kerr has been working on his kickouts but I stand by what I said, niblock my man of the match but just my opinion, don't take it personally ;).
Agree to disagree then Mbandall........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
Could mballandall be related to MR2 ......I wonder.......sour grapes after losing a league game now that's one to consider.
May well be a tad biased in my opinion but that was how I saw it.

I put a wee smiley face on the end of the post, probably lost on you but hey  :o
Course ur little smiley face is lost on me MR2......sure although us Culchies/Bumpkins are a wee bit thick and we never ever hear the penny drop. 8)

Ive been waiting on a few pennies to drop for a while ffs!! get it into gear this year or you'll be fishing those league medals outta the Bann  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 09:45:00 PM
U are the man MR2..........hear ur players are taking scuba lessons, but that's between u me and Mballnall of course.. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 05, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Can't help yourself with the punches bumpkin. At least yours aren't from behind ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2015, 11:51:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 05, 2015, 09:45:00 PM
U are the man MR2..........hear ur players are taking scuba lessons, but that's between u me and Mballnall of course.. ;)

I remember us winning the league once... Highly memorable experience we drank for....... minutes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 06, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 05, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Can't help yourself with the punches bumpkin. At least yours aren't from behind ;)
Now that one is beyond me I fear........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 06, 2015, 05:51:08 PM
You must have been the only one didnt see the number of punches from behind then. Biased ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 06, 2015, 06:56:35 PM
U talking bout the Portglenone affair then mbandall?
But I wasn't in attendance, and anyway seems that one is under investigation 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 06, 2015, 11:40:19 PM
Heard a murmur tonight that there was a difference of opinion at the end of Galls and Cargin? Just handbags - or was there more to it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 06, 2015, 11:47:01 PM
That's what I was referring to bannside when I suggested to bumpkin about punches from behind but he avoided it well. Biased , me ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 07, 2015, 08:20:06 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 06, 2015, 11:47:01 PM
That's what I was referring to bannside when I suggested to bumpkin about punches from behind but he avoided it well. Biased , me ?
Was in the Row on the said night and, unless my eyesight is gone saw nothing of such.....did see handshakes all round........one late red card issued to one wearing blue and the withdrawal of another from the same ranks who was close to observing the same colour......sure Mr Mc Cotter was in the middle and I am sure he observed,,  what I missed.
Was mbandall even at the game?
Did ur 'source' relate his murmur prefixed by I wish or was it Once upon a time Bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 07, 2015, 11:02:10 AM
I was there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2015, 09:01:43 AM
Qualifier draw has us away to the losers of Kildare and Laois.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 08, 2015, 10:06:24 AM
Of all the Div 4 teams in the 'hat' - we draw the losers of this pair. And away from home too.

Third year in a row we travel in our first round qualifier game. :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2015, 10:14:58 AM
Tough draw :-(

Still Fermanagh could arguably have beat Laois last year and we beat them last year so you never know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 14, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
3-19 to Laois, my goodness if we played them twice we would hardly score that. Looks like an early end to the Antrim season in both codes. Diabolical to say the least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 15, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Whats 'diabolical'? an early end to the season which hasn't happened yet? Don't be an idiot. If it happens, put whatever label you want on it, but lets see how Saturday's match goes - yeah?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2015, 08:00:54 AM
We haven't even played yet!!

Is there any truth in the tweet from clubaontroma that this may be a home game? If so what would happen there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2015, 08:04:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2015, 08:00:54 AM
We haven't even played yet!!

Is there any truth in the tweet from clubaontroma that this may be a home game? If so what would happen there?
Has to be home if Antrim played away last year and Laois played at home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Home where though?

Not sure we have a home that qualifies as a championship ground.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 15, 2015, 08:14:59 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on June 15, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Whats 'diabolical'? an early end to the season which hasn't happened yet? Don't be an idiot. If it happens, put whatever label you want on it, but lets see how Saturday's match goes - yeah?
If such a safe bet whether Home or Away, would you be putting a significant wager on it? Idiot or not, come Sunday, I'd safely say you can put your flag, hat, flask and sat nav away for another year.  Diabolical is the correct label.

Tell ya what, you put £20.OO on Antrim to win and put a tenner on Laois for me,  lets see who you collect on come Monday next. Either way you cant loose!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 15, 2015, 01:15:51 PM
We will be away.......would be at home if we had been away in the first round last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 15, 2015, 03:20:59 PM
Yep - the issue of being away last year only applies to first round matches of the qualifiers, and we entered the qualifiers at Rd 2 last year. Still, we haven't had a home qualifier match now since 2012, and Laois were at home twice last season, losing in the end to Tipperary when at home. Hopefully they are still caught in the headlights of Saturday's second half collapse when we play them this week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 16, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
Are all club games off tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 16, 2015, 09:51:28 PM
Division one and two are all called off I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 17, 2015, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 16, 2015, 09:51:28 PM
Division one and two are all called off I think.

Div3 on then? couldn't see any on the county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 17, 2015, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 17, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
County website not working at the minute.
Has C***l Ní Ch***ín (Ca*ol C*llen to the uninitiated) fecked that up as well?  Lies and more damned lies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 18, 2015, 11:06:21 AM
Everythings down this year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 18, 2015, 11:25:17 AM
I hear Fitzy asked for some senior hurling games to be called off on Friday but was refused .
St galls 3 county players have agreed to play hurling on Friday night.
Unbelievable from out county board if true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on June 18, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
everyone knows by now that if u want a game moved, it is up to both clubs to agree another date before going to the county.
the other club involved mustve turned down this request.

i am not saying the other club is wrong, as most clubs players plan things around original fixtures, so most clubs dont like to move games as they will maybe then be weaker the next day, so therefore u wud want to play the game when u may have a better chance of a win!
every clubs needs points at the end of the day & if it happens to ur own club that clubs arent very helpful in refixing games then u soon know what it feels like & wudnt be too quick to help anyone else out.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 18, 2015, 01:12:08 PM
It was the county management that requested it not st galls.
Wouldn't happen in any other county.
You are expecting boys to go out and give their all against Laois having played a club game less than 24 hours before hand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 18, 2015, 02:19:47 PM
So the little guy turned down a request from the county Football management..........now there's a surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 18, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 18, 2015, 02:19:47 PM
So the little guy turned down a request from the county Football management..........now there's a surprise.
ah for goodness sake, leave the wee man alone. Clubs should just come to a mutual agreement and rearrange the fixture, simples! That way both clubs if appropriate may give up their players to the county.  But then maybe, just maybe the opposing club to St. Galls view it as an opportunity to accumulate points?

I have it on good authority the wee man is being schooled/mentored by a good friend of the family  - F. Smyth. A magnificent servant and true Antrim missionary.   I'm just extremely mindful we need to remain vigilant and keep the mercenaries at bay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GNM on June 19, 2015, 03:25:28 PM
Any team news for tomorrow? And is there going to be any coverage of the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2015, 07:08:57 PM
Surely the manager can't name the team until 3 players complete a club hurling match the night before.....and if that is true....only in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 19, 2015, 09:01:44 PM
Despite everything, st galls won
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 20, 2015, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 19, 2015, 07:08:57 PM
Surely the manager can't name the team until 3 players complete a club hurling match the night before.....and if that is true....only in Antrim.
So true, only in Antrim Bannside.....and such fully underlines our complete failures....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 20, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
A few changes from the Fermanagh game I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 20, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
According to Twtter, Burke and the 2 McGourtys dropped for playing the hurling last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 20, 2015, 03:05:19 PM
Laois lead by 1-7 to 0-03 after 27 mins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
Fantastic Gutsy display against a division two team.  Away. Sincere congrats to all concerned. Especially Big Frank who had hard calls to make and didn't duck them.

Only query was why was Ryan Murray not down to start. One of the best in Ulster on his day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2015, 05:01:30 PM
Fitzy has some set on him. If you look at the player ratings from the Fermanagh match the three dropped today were amongst our best the last day. Fair play to him for making a call that was always going to make his own life much harder.

And with three of their club mates benched for playing for their club, there would always be the possibility that Chris or Pollock would side with their club mates. But they didn't and both went on to play important roles in today's historic victory. Fair play to them for being big about it and putting county first.

All in all this 35 minute spell today rescues what has been a poor season to date. Credit to all involved there will be a big support out the next day...the team have earned that much now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 20, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
Listening to Fitzy after the game, he seemed supportive of the lads he dropped. Said he had to drop them but sympathised with the position they were put in and said they are still very much part of his squad and his plans. That's refreshing. Other managers would have just gassed them from the panel and not cared about the situation they were put in.

Fair play to him - seems to have a very sensible head on him. A decent draw for the next round would be magic.

Milltown Row - why did St Galls agree to move the game to last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 20, 2015, 08:59:11 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on June 15, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Whats 'diabolical'? an early end to the season which hasn't happened yet? Don't be an idiot. If it happens, put whatever label you want on it, but lets see how Saturday's match goes - yeah?
If such a safe bet whether Home or Away, would you be putting a significant wager on it? Idiot or not, come Sunday, I'd safely say you can put your flag, hat, flask and sat nav away for another year.  Diabolical is the correct label.

Tell ya what, you put £20.OO on Antrim to win and put a tenner on Laois for me,  lets see who you collect on come Monday next. Either way you cant loose!

So, does 'diabolical' still apply? Don't pre judge. There are enough people out there keen to put the boot into Antrim football, we shouldn't rush to join them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2015, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 20, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
Listening to Fitzy after the game, he seemed supportive of the lads he dropped. Said he had to drop them but sympathised with the position they were put in and said they are still very much part of his squad and his plans. That's refreshing. Other managers would have just gassed them from the panel and not cared about the situation they were put in.

Fair play to him - seems to have a very sensible head on him. A decent draw for the next round would be magic.

Milltown Row - why did St Galls agree to move the game to last night?

We didn't agree ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 20, 2015, 11:14:17 PM
 Of course the hurling should have been called off.......jeez those players were asked to decide club or county......sur I wonder would the little guy who has charge would insist a football game in which three county hurlers would proceed the day before a county hurling championship ????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 21, 2015, 12:54:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2015, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 20, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
Listening to Fitzy after the game, he seemed supportive of the lads he dropped. Said he had to drop them but sympathised with the position they were put in and said they are still very much part of his squad and his plans. That's refreshing. Other managers would have just gassed them from the panel and not cared about the situation they were put in.

Fair play to him - seems to have a very sensible head on him. A decent draw for the next round would be magic.

Milltown Row - why did St Galls agree to move the game to last night?

We didn't agree ffs

?! How? My (very) limited understanding of how these things work are that both teams have to consent to moving (from 6pm Saturday night like the rest of the games). Is that not the case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2015, 09:32:03 AM
Both teams had to agree. St Galls obviously did so and the 3 players took their own decision to represent their club. The match was between two teams at the lower end of division one hurling so was a four pointer in many respects in their bid to stay up. They knew the consequences of playing and took them. I was going to say manfully but will reserve that adjective until it is clarified that they turn up for the next county training session as usual. Hopefully they will as public opinion will kind to them if they do.

At the minute all we can safely assume is that the club asked the 3 if the game was brought forward would they make themselves available and obviously the answer was yes. If they had said no (they are 3 of their clubs best hurlers) obviously St Galls would have not agreed to play!

This opens up an important question.

Did they show a total lack of respect to their county manager and teammates or did they do what many others might/would have done by demonstrating a firm club before county principle?

No matter what way you look at this its our old friends "the county board" who created this problem by showing an intransigence towards moving the fixture  to accommodate a club that was being asked to fulfil a very important league one match with their closest relegation rivals, without the services of their 3 best players.

Make no mistake, as the chair of CCC Joe Edwards has made a mistake here of monumental proportions.  He assumed our county footballers would get hammered and did nothing to accommodate either St Galls or more importantly Frank Fitzsimmons. He is coming out of this debacle very badly in my book and has done his county chair aspirations no end of damage with the way he has handled this. As a very bottom line fact he has shown absolutely no regard for the ambition of county senior football.

Or just confirmed what many of us "armchair critics/keyboard warriors" have being saying for ages that this particular county management  committee do not give one flying fig about our county footballers. I don't pin this blame on every member of that committee, because many of them have no interest in football to begin with. But one or two in particular who should be tried for their "crimes against Antrim Football" over this last 4 or 5 years.

Antrim footballers won yesterday in spite of them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 21, 2015, 10:22:52 AM
Just to clarify a few things
St galls did agree to move the game at clooney Gaels request as they wanted to to okay the game before their feile team. So it was to accommodate clooney Gaels 4/5 weeks ago.
However this was agreed before the county game had been fixed for the Saturday .
When we realised this we asked county for it to be refixed only to be told no, various reasons given , one of which was that it was a refix which of course it wasn't .

This is a problem that we have akw says faced with having dual club players involved in county teams.
We actually get punished for promoting both codes.

However I have the upmost respect for the 3 boys involved , they knew the consequences and after training hard and sacrificing so much over the last 6 months training with the county it can't have been an easy one . Or was it? As we mustn't forget that the club is in their blood , it's their family and friends who they have grown up with, it is the club who has nurtured these guys, the county benefits from this, not the other way about .

But the bottom line is they should have never been put in that position to make a decision.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
Bs were you at the game?  Any reports?

Everything seems about the county board here but let's not forget- that's one of our best wins in years and if we get a kind draw next maybe get a few more games out of this.

Bs most of us are armchair supporters but don't think you fit that category!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2015, 10:38:26 AM
This was the sweetest win I can remember because it was totally against all the odds. It was truly of David versus Goliath proportions. Away to a division two team and we could all make a case for 10-15 players who could/should/might have been on that pitch. But the 15 who were decided enough was enough. Yesterday new heroes emerged. Paddy Mc Bride, Owen Gallagher, Niall Delargy, Dermot Mc Aleese,  Paddy Mc Aleer, Jack Dowling and the redoubtable Ryan Murray all showed that they can stand up tall at this level. There should be no more talk of who wasn't there. Let those who do want to get on with it and give this new breed their head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2015, 10:54:13 AM
It's one of the best wins I remember too.

Down and done gal maybe in ulster challenge it.

Exactly right- forget about who wasn't there. Those who were there did it and got a bit of pride back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2015, 10:57:18 AM
Manballandall I don't think anyone here has a single gripe against St Galls or the 3 players in this matter. Club comes first with every player and that's the way it should be.

Hopefully your three players will all be back at training and accept the consequences manfully because they are all big assets to this team in different ways.

ITG to be very honest with you I had work commitments yesterday until midday and that didn't leave me time to get there. Had 4 tickets too but had to settle for Thomas Niblock and a very good commentary from Radio Ulster. Incidentally Mick Mc Cann said that he wouldn't rule out a return next year under "different circumstances" which he refused to elaborate on. Tomas the same. And alluded to Sean Kelly who was co commentating from O Moore Park would do the same. All under "different curcumstances"

And quite a few other "established senior players" he had spoken to were of the same view. All very interesting Michael but please spit it out exactly what you mean. Then we would have something to consider.

A couple of the players were in my house last night and I got the lowdown from them. A case of let's throw the kitchen sink at this for 35 mins or the season is over. It worked. They said Laois tired obviously as they did against Kildare a week previously and that didn't do us any harm either.

Ryan Murray lit the spark with a few outrageous points and when he scored his goal the momentum took over and everyone knew "it was on". A real buzz now let's get those supporters buses organised for the next one. Saffron army back on tour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2015, 02:20:42 PM
I've only read brief reports. Good luck to the minors now.

Guys in similar predicament. St John's guy playing in u21 hurling final on at the minute

Fixtures secretary needs looked at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on June 21, 2015, 06:05:16 PM
Fair play to the seniors on a great win which I think even the most ardent fan never saw coming.  Hopefully the 3 players dropped will be back at training this week and the incident moved on from in terms of the senior football panel.  The fixture scenario is another example of our county board problem but only time and new blood will fix, which could take a generation.  I attended underage tournament in France last week and saw talented people with no Irish connections being passionate but also very professional in their organisation, a stark contrast to a few people in our own county in my opinion.

The senior side has definitely shown positives after yesterday, the Fermanagh game was dire and I personally think the management got the selection and tactics horribly wrong but redemption came yesterday and credit has to be given when credit is due.  The ability to get 17 scores in a championship match should never be sniffed at and shows a great platform there to work with going forward next year with whatever happens this year now a bonus.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2015, 06:20:08 PM
Great post Dreen.  How did you get on on your trip. Great experience which will hopefully help develop your next generation. Not many juveniles get an experience like that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on June 21, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
it was definitely a worthwhile trip and the 14 lads who went will have something to talk about for a while though im sure anyone who has taken a team to feile would say the same thing.  Id encourage anyone to do the same, as a mentor I couldn't speak highly enough of it and to be honest when it was put to me at the start I wasn't sold on it at all.  It took one man in our club to take it on and get it organised and he did an excellent job and hopefully it will provide the template for other teams and codes in our own club to run with in the future.

Few happy lads in your house last night id say, as much as it pains a Sharkin man to say the Portglenone county contingent are excellent, id have Dermot in every team from the start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2015, 07:24:19 PM
Aye Dermot is in our house most nights too lol. Great to see him get his chance and take it. A fantastic asset for our club and county u-21 captain so he should feature on many county teams of the future.

Cargin beat us today but we were a bit more competitive thankfully. We held in well with them for the most of the game but Justin Crozier came on and made a difference for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2015, 07:33:46 PM
Word on the street about the St Galls 3 not so good. One for Boston on Wednesday and another in a full scale verbal spat with top county official after the match yesterday. Antrim always good for a story.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 21, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
Lets keep things in context here.  The County Exec. and possibly Frank thought the team would be bate, as would most other Antrim people.  So, ok we beat Laois, is it not about time we chalked up a win (however meaningless)?  But lets get real here, next day could be back to the reality of where we sit in the pecking order among 32 other counties.

Congratulations to St. Johns under 21's by the way.  I was up at the game with my da and grandson.  I have to say I was really impressed with the St. Johns performance, they played some really nice hurling, but mindful this was a young Shamrocks side who were not up to the physicality of the St. Johns boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 21, 2015, 07:49:12 PM
When is the next round and can we not be drawn at home?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 21, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
 :-\
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2015, 07:33:46 PM
Word on the street about the St Galls 3 not so good. One for Boston on Wednesday and another in a full scale verbal spat with top county official after the match yesterday. Antrim always good for a story.
Heard the same tale Bannside, and the verbals was a two pronged attack is alleged. As to the trip to Boston do not think such sanction will not be approved whilst still in the championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurlingstick on June 21, 2015, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 21, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
Lets keep things in context here.  The County Exec. and possibly Frank thought the team would be bate, as would most other Antrim people.  So, ok we beat Laois, is it not about time we chalked up a win (however meaningless)?  But lets get real here, next day could be back to the reality of where we sit in the pecking order among 32 other counties.

Congratulations to St. Johns under 21's by the way.  I was up at the game with my da and grandson.  I have to say I was really impressed with the St. Johns performance, they played some really nice hurling, but mindful this was a young Shamrocks side who were not up to the physicality of the St. Johns boys.

Cushendal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 21, 2015, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 21, 2015, 09:20:51 PM
I heard today of a bit of a quarrel with Jim Murray in St Galls club. It came across as a Chinese whisper from a 20th hand source and details were vague so I took it with a pinch of salt.

That said, if one of those 3 players vented their frustrations at somebody on our county executive then fair play I say. They have been left to carry the can for a situation that should never have arisen. Players need to be supported by the county, not left in sticky situations as what happened this weekend.
Maybe the verbals weren't about that.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 21, 2015, 09:56:48 PM
Antrim is great for a bit of scandal, one thing after another. It would make a great soap opera.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2015, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 21, 2015, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 21, 2015, 09:20:51 PM
I heard today of a bit of a quarrel with Jim Murray in St Galls club. It came across as a Chinese whisper from a 20th hand source and details were vague so I took it with a pinch of salt.

That said, if one of those 3 players vented their frustrations at somebody on our county executive then fair play I say. They have been left to carry the can for a situation that should never have arisen. Players need to be supported by the county, not left in sticky situations as what happened this weekend.
Maybe the verbals weren't about that.  ;)

Maybe they were
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on June 22, 2015, 12:05:53 AM
Surely the player going to the states had planned it along time ago, whatever the results this weekend he was away anyway. Loyalty works both ways.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 22, 2015, 12:55:28 AM
Lads can I ask a genuine question.
What precisely is going on up there. Did your county board seriously fix a hurling game for night before a county football game and even if they did why the hell are your players playing in it? Is this some kind of stand by the McGourtys or are the club so badly stuck for players they have to take 3 of the county footballers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: ck on June 22, 2015, 12:55:28 AM
Lads can I ask a genuine question.
What precisely is going on up there. Did your county board seriously fix a hurling game for night before a county football game and even if they did why the hell are your players playing in it? Is this some kind of stand by the McGourtys or are the club so badly stuck for players they have to take 3 of the county footballers?

Look your obvious hatred of the mcgourty's is well noted.. You know feck all about what's 'going on' up here with regards to fixtures and players wanting/needing to play in vital league games which to sustain div one status.... This fixture was asked to be changed by the other team... It was agreed then the Laois fixture came up and we asked for it to be changed the county said its up to both clubs to agree, other club didn't (they need points also) as we'd be without are better players. We beat them and the lads were dropped...

The county could have done this a fixed the game for Sunday, why that simple option wasn't taken is beyond me.... But you go ahead and make up your own shite to make you happy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2015, 08:48:47 AM
Back to  Brewster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2015, 08:53:39 AM
That is a depressing draw. Why should teams who have had to play each other so recently play again.

Is it in Brewster? Thought we were out first? Is that defaulted due to no home ground?

[Edit] They get us at home due to having beat us before. If they have a caveat then it should be that we don't play again not that we give away home advantage!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
A perfect nothing to lose shot at redemption for Antrim who didn't perform there the last day...but...crucially the players know they are better than that.

Antrim nothing to lose. All pressure on Pete Mc Grath now. This is the one he definitely wouldn't want.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2015, 09:12:43 AM
Yes hopefully a bit of confidence has been gained from the Laois game. It's always worse for the team that won the first time too so you're right we have nothing to lose. Just would have preferred the likes of Clare, Offaly or Longford!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on June 22, 2015, 09:27:51 AM
Surely having McVeigh sent off last time out had an influence on the game.
Fermanagh were pulverised yesterday when they went down to 14.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 22, 2015, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: ck on June 22, 2015, 12:55:28 AM
Lads can I ask a genuine question.
What precisely is going on up there. Did your county board seriously fix a hurling game for night before a county football game and even if they did why the hell are your players playing in it? Is this some kind of stand by the McGourtys or are the club so badly stuck for players they have to take 3 of the county footballers?

Look your obvious hatred of the mcgourty's is well noted.. You know feck all about what's 'going on' up here with regards to fixtures and players wanting/needing to play in vital league games which to sustain div one status.... This fixture was asked to be changed by the other team... It was agreed then the Laois fixture came up and we asked for it to be changed the county said its up to both clubs to agree, other club didn't (they need points also) as we'd be without are better players. We beat them and the lads were dropped...

The county could have done this a fixed the game for Sunday, why that simple option wasn't taken is beyond me.... But you go ahead and make up your own shite to make you happy

Wow what's with the attack? Thanks for the explanation. The national media were covering it and it made no sense whatsoever.
I heard the McGourty name in the mix and figured there may have been more to it - that was all. thanks anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 22, 2015, 12:32:43 PM
I think that draw is just fine. Our players will know they under performed last time out, and Saturday only served to confirm that. In addition, Fermanagh are not a great side - thats not putting them down as some claimed after the 31st May, its just an observation. Our lads know that Fermanagh are very beatable in Brewster. McVeigh back on board, hopefully the 3 St Galls lads too, Ryan Murray and others high on confidence....it all amounts to a very winnable game for us. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 22, 2015, 12:49:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 21, 2015, 09:20:51 PM
I heard today of a bit of a quarrel with Jim Murray in St Galls club. It came across as a Chinese whisper from a 20th hand source and details were vague so I took it with a pinch of salt.

That said, if one of those 3 players vented their frustrations at somebody on our county executive then fair play I say. They have been left to carry the can for a situation that should never have arisen. Players need to be supported by the county, not left in sticky situations as what happened this weekend.
Jim Murray, St. Galls, McGourty's, all aul tittle tattle.

It's like Coronation Street for goodness sake.  Only in Antrim!  A little bit of advice everyone, do not believe all you hear, this county is in an utter mess because of rumour, personal jibes, egotists those with personal vendettas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on June 22, 2015, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: ck on June 22, 2015, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: ck on June 22, 2015, 12:55:28 AM
Lads can I ask a genuine question.
What precisely is going on up there. Did your county board seriously fix a hurling game for night before a county football game and even if they did why the hell are your players playing in it? Is this some kind of stand by the McGourtys or are the club so badly stuck for players they have to take 3 of the county footballers?

Look your obvious hatred of the mcgourty's is well noted.. You know feck all about what's 'going on' up here with regards to fixtures and players wanting/needing to play in vital league games which to sustain div one status.... This fixture was asked to be changed by the other team... It was agreed then the Laois fixture came up and we asked for it to be changed the county said its up to both clubs to agree, other club didn't (they need points also) as we'd be without are better players. We beat them and the lads were dropped...

The county could have done this a fixed the game for Sunday, why that simple option wasn't taken is beyond me.... But you go ahead and make up your own shite to make you happy

Wow what's with the attack? Thanks for the explanation. The national media were covering it and it made no sense whatsoever.
I heard the McGourty name in the mix and figured there may have been more to it - that was all. thanks anyway

We'd a hurling game vrs Armoy on saturday evening, three lads played in it, then played for Down in the Ulster championship the next day.
If Down CB weren't bothered enough to ask Antrim to call it off then we're going to play our strongest team whenever possible.

IIRC, to prevent teams calling games off willy nilly Antrim CB introduced the rule that both teams had to agree to the refixing of the game within 6 days of the original fixture otherwise the game had to be played when first set. St Galls were a bit unlucky that they'd facilitated the other club by moving to the friday evening, then for the Antrim qualifier to come up after that.
Hard not to have sympathy for the three lads involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stibhan on June 22, 2015, 08:13:42 PM
Simply put with all the space in the calendar it's an absolute joke that a vital game cannot be refixed for an equally crucial qualifier, even outwith the codes themselves. This will absolutely have to be looked at for the next AGM of Antrim GAA but in the meantime I think the County Board have more than enough power to postpone a game by two or three days or until it can be fulfilled.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
No mention of the farce of the players wearing a mixture of new jerseys and old jerseys last weekend? Only in Antrim as they say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 23, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
No mention of the farce of the players wearing a mixture of new jerseys and old jerseys last weekend? Only in Antrim as they say.

Not the first time its happened... Championship game v Fermanagh a few years ago it happened so plenty form !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on June 23, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
QuoteSt Galls were a bit unlucky that they'd facilitated the other club by moving to the friday evening, then for the Antrim qualifier to come up after that.

The date of the qualfiers was well known, either St Galls weren't planning on playing county footballers in the hurling game or they were and didn't give a damn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2015, 11:20:18 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 23, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
QuoteSt Galls were a bit unlucky that they'd facilitated the other club by moving to the friday evening, then for the Antrim qualifier to come up after that.

The date of the qualfiers was well known, either St Galls weren't planning on playing county footballers in the hurling game or they were and didn't give a damn.

That be correct  ::).  You've never played for a club before so you wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 24, 2015, 06:11:20 PM
Rumour has it there are a few away to states this week. Not rumours actually , fact
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 24, 2015, 08:03:15 PM
Care to name names?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on June 24, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
You lose some, you gain some apparently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2015, 08:01:51 AM
Burke, Mc Aleer, and Mc Bride away to the sunshine and who can fault them :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2015, 09:15:51 AM
http://youtu.be/8-aahFmNqaE

Ryan Murrays penalty at 9.30 mins in😃

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/1012113/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on June 25, 2015, 10:43:49 AM
CJ's interview which was on the radio Monday!

He doesn't hold back!

http://www.newstalk.com/cj-mcgourty-on-antrim-issue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2015, 02:10:05 PM
CJ spoke well and did not go into overdrive to cause controversy. Probably went a bit further than he intended with the expenses stuff but was taken down that road.

As the county GPA representative he has the platform to address certain issues or perceived injustices. He is in the right position to do what he is doing.

The CB have a right of reply and they probably won't exercise that as it would only serve to fan the flames. Most likely they will hide low until the next episode arises.

One thing is for sure. If we thought it couldn't get any worse for us, 2015 has been a truly annum horibilis to date, flowing from one controversy to the next. There comes a point where you have to ask the question "how badly have they brought our county into disrepute and if so what are the sanctions that should be imposed". It's really got that bad that we have no idea what's going to happen next, and all the time it's OUR name that they are bringing into disrepute. We are truly a laughing stock throughout the country. That's about the sum of what these "wise guys" have managed to achieve.

How long does this need to go on until a club proposes a vote of no confidence in this shit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 25, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
The Jerseys thing is the worst. I mind Martin McHugh going on about it (06?) when same thing happened in championship away to Fermanagh. Our goalkeeper doing goals wearing a Dublin Jersey that day.

It looks shoddy at Club, never mind County Level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 25, 2015, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 03:35:48 PM
I think CJ in that interview let himself down a bit by an attempt to have a small pop at Fitzy. I appreciate it that he said that Fitzy is a nice guy and that he was put in a position but he has once again publicly had a pop if small at Fitsy.  He said something like that Frank could have handled it better.  The blame lies completely with the CCCC and CJ should not have spoken out of shop against Fitsy.

I disagree, i thought he spoke very well, what he pointed out was that Frank should have pre warned them that by playing they would not be considered for the Laois game, not told on the morning of the game in the hotel. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the 3 players knew the writing was on the wall but still as CJ said had they been told in advance they could have weighed up their options and made an informed decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
I thought Fitzsimmons handled it very well. He didn't go into anything like he thought they'd let people down or should have chose county first etc. In just saying he had to pick fresh players there was no questions about commitment to county or allegiances simply the objective point they weren't fresh.

I'm not sure if he would have thought they would have played.

Everyone thinks they were right to play for their club and the county board let everyone down. It's nice to debate this after being in a winning position mind you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2015, 07:02:17 PM
Hindsight is wonderful ITG. Just imagine the post mortem if we had lost by a point after missing half a dozen frees. That would have been the post mortem of all time.

Agree wholeheartedly that Fitzy has handled this exceptionally well. Many managers would have thrown the toys put of the pram completely with the board, or with the players. He has won over a lot if the Antrim supporters and here's hoping they come out in much better numbers on Saturday week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 25, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 25, 2015, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 03:35:48 PM
I think CJ in that interview let himself down a bit by an attempt to have a small pop at Fitzy. I appreciate it that he said that Fitzy is a nice guy and that he was put in a position but he has once again publicly had a pop if small at Fitsy.  He said something like that Frank could have handled it better.  The blame lies completely with the CCCC and CJ should not have spoken out of shop against Fitsy.

I disagree, i thought he spoke very well, what he pointed out was that Frank should have pre warned them that by playing they would not be considered for the Laois game, not told on the morning of the game in the hotel. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the 3 players knew the writing was on the wall but still as CJ said had they been told in advance they could have weighed up their options and made an informed decision.

Well he said they would have made the same decision anyway but the most important point I was trying to make is that he has criticised his current manager to the national media (not for the first time) and that is wrong regardless of what Fitsy should have done. To go to the media and publicly criticise your manager a disgrace.
Once again the CB and CJ bring the county in to disrepute.  Seems like the McGourty dynasty and the rolls on, if not one the other have a cheap shot at the county manager.  Can it honestly be said that the McGourty(s) continue to court favour with the media instead of keeping their heads down and commit to doing their talking on the pitch.  Unquestionably the CB have failed us once more here but as I have stated previously, we all elected them!  Fair play top Frank and the boys on Saturday last, I for one did not believe they could carve out a result.

Sadly our county is probably at its lowest ebb for several decades.  The Casement, Dunsilly (not done), Club Antrim demise are debacle's which have taken their toll on the ordinary long suffering Antrim Gaels.

But as per the perpetual cycle of county conventions come around, take one guess who is going to re-elect them???  Too late for votes of no confidence now!  It remains that the CB needs a radical gutting out and a major influx of new faces/blood.  I wonder will a McGourty put their name forward for election and solve all this controversy and turmoil?  I 'll eagerly await the outcome in anticipation come County Convention, Dec. 2015!  Not that I have anything personal against the McGourtys, I'm just mindful they appear to be at the forefront of past and current complaining!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on June 25, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Listening to his radio interview, I got a sense that he was looking for an opportunity to diversify into the widest possible agenda of criticism against the County Board which I felt was both opportunistic and vexatious. It was inappropriate to mention another player with purported issues on expenses payments. I wonder what that player thinks of a third party raising that publicly. He could easily have made his point without going into specifics. Indeed, he went further and raised another issue beteeen the same player and the Board. To me, that raises issues of confidentiality and judgement.
We have heard all this before from this individual. It gets a bit boring when someone consistently criticises but offers little or nothing by way of setting out an agenda for change. It is not enough merely to say that Antrim cannot go on like this. Let him set out his model or template for development. Failing that, was it just an opportunity to pontificate to attract more media attention ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:13:25 PM
I can understand why some posters might be saying more power to CJ because he exposed the County Board's shortcomings.  I think we all share that frustration.  My annoyance at CJ has got more to with him speaking out of shop about the manager no matter how much he tried to sugar coat it afterwards.  All players should stay loyal to their manager.  Public criticism is tantamount to treason in my view and it simply isn't fair.

You are hiding behind a keyboard giving him stick... Shoes worse?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 25, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
Sure it's always the managers fault, have we learnt nothing over the years from the McGourtys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2015, 10:23:10 PM
Maybe CJ is being a bit opportunist Curious, or maybe he strongly feels the need to name and shame. His expenses theory became more relevant with a specific case as opposed to a general example. The name added more credibility to it.

The GAA has to realise that it has a very public face even if it was mostly built on volunteerism.

There are paid officials everywhere who get large mileage expenses on top of their already well paid 9-5 jobs. All we ask is that we get a more professional and accountable service from them. Gone are the days of the "wipe it under the table" mindset or the "we are the county board and we can do whatever we want" brigade.

Things happen in Antrim time after time that would not be acceptable in many other counties. I could name you half a dozen players who have serious gripes with the county over issues relating to expenses or physio bills or attention to rehab for our elite players.

I think that's actually the crux. Our county officers do not see our elite players as just that. They are merely liabilities on an expenses sheet. The quicker our county footballers exit the qualifiers the better it will be. It costs money to prepare a football or hurling team to compete at this level, and....well sure we won't win anything so why go to the bother! The sooner it's over the better. And don't be swapping those jerseys either because they are needed next year.

Having said all this (nothing new) the challenge is to encourage a few capable people to get involved and shake up the mediocrity. If we elect the same type of people we will get the...you know the rest!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
The county will point out that there are no finances to fund a lot of what we need. And yes they do have a requirement to be financially prudent, and to try to balance the books.

We talk about the need for proper structures and proven managers and quality coaching etc etc. It's all to easy to point this out - we all know what we need.

The big problem us finding a solution that doesn't cost money we don't have. And why do we not gave it and other counties do?

Most counties can fund the basics, but rely heavily on individual and corporate contributions  to fund the extras. This requires goodwill but most importantly trust. Unfortunately both are in short supply at the minute.

The big question here is will corporate sponsors come forward to assist Antrim whilst it is under the current leadership. The simple and short answer is no.

If these men were really caring about Antrim they would serve notice to resign and commit to a sensible time frame to assist, cooperate and in good faith mentor some new blood.

Unfortunately that's the only way forward if they truly have the county's best interests at heart.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:13:25 PM
I can understand why some posters might be saying more power to CJ because he exposed the County Board's shortcomings.  I think we all share that frustration.  My annoyance at CJ has got more to with him speaking out of shop about the manager no matter how much he tried to sugar coat it afterwards.  All players should stay loyal to their manager.  Public criticism is tantamount to treason in my view and it simply isn't fair.

You are hiding behind a keyboard giving him stick... Shoes worse?

No more hiding that everyone else on here.  He put himself out there on national radio and made his views about the issue. I'm giving my opinion on it.

I'm not hiding.... But you do see the irony in your post?  Rightly or or wrongly he'll stand by his opinion and not (on this occasion) hide behind a keyboard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2015, 10:52:13 PM
Sure the hurl carrier will solve all our problems Bannside.........those who look forward to a brighter future under the new regime which is anticipated under the little guy are barking at the moon......... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: passedit on June 25, 2015, 10:56:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 25, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
The big question here is will corporate sponsors come forward to assist Antrim whilst it is under the current leadership. The simple and short answer is no.

Not when the current county sponsors are treated so appallingly by the CB. Surprised more hasn't been made of the jersey issue. In any half decently run county that's EGM out on yer ear the lot of ye right there.

Grounds for legal action n'all if the sponsors were  so minded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
Do you think Fitsy was fair game?

That's a different question to the one I put to you, if you want to publically lambast an Antrim player through a medium such as the GAA board I don't think there is any difference to what CJ did... And what CJ said is tame compared to some of the libellous crap on here... Again I don't have a judgement on this as I'm not sure of the rights and wrongs of this... The likes of Bannside (whose views on most things football is on the money) would be one id listen to ... And again he doesn't shy from letting other posters know who he is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on June 25, 2015, 11:09:32 PM
Bannside,  If I was the named player, I would not be happy with  McGourty publicly referencing reported  issues. I do of course accept that the player may have given authority to be referred to though I have to say I suspect that was not the case. If McGourty is going to speak on behalf of Antrim GPA, I suggest he undertakes a bit of media training in how to handle these things. Rather than focusing on the specifics, I think he would have made more impact by itemising all the issues he is aware of. Such a continuum would have been more effective as demonstrative of Board incompetency.

Antrim GAA reminds me of what is said about alcoholics, namely that treatment of the condition begins with recognition that the condition exists! I suggest that there are many counties which suffer from under resourcing, no history of success etc but which have fronted up to what is strategically required and have taken action to improve things. - Tipperary football woulod be an example.

Any serious  Antrim strategic  project will take years to deliver.There is no point in repeating the requirements for development. As you say, everybody knows what they are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2015, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
Do you think Fitsy was fair game?

That's a different question to the one I put to you, if you want to publically lambast an Antrim player through a medium such as the GAA board I don't think there is any difference to what CJ did... And what CJ said is tame compared to some of the libellous crap on here... Again I don't have a judgement on this as I'm not sure of the rights and wrongs of this... The likes of Bannside (whose views on most things football is on the money) would be one id listen to ... And again he doesn't shy from letting other posters know who he is
MR2 like myself u are undoubtedly always ready to stand upright straight and tall in defense of your club and all within, but although I will be the first to say that CJ is a hugely talented individual he seems to be an quite abrasive character with strong opinions and sometimes he would be better served to keep his counsel................especially when the press would call. 
"Libelous crap"..............well I do reside in Cargin! ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
Do you think Fitsy was fair game?

That's a different question to the one I put to you, if you want to publically lambast an Antrim player through a medium such as the GAA board I don't think there is any difference to what CJ did... And what CJ said is tame compared to some of the libellous crap on here... Again I don't have a judgement on this as I'm not sure of the rights and wrongs of this... The likes of Bannside (whose views on most things football is on the money) would be one id listen to ... And again he doesn't shy from letting other posters know who he is

Convenient.

I didn't go on national radio to lambast anyone.  CJ did and when he did, he had a pop at Fitsy.  That's wrong no matter what Bannside reckons.

You do accept though that you are hiding behind an alias and giving out about someone?? Convenient?? I'm not in the know or know enough of the background of this to pass judgement... Are you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 11:20:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 25, 2015, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
Do you think Fitsy was fair game?

That's a different question to the one I put to you, if you want to publically lambast an Antrim player through a medium such as the GAA board I don't think there is any difference to what CJ did... And what CJ said is tame compared to some of the libellous crap on here... Again I don't have a judgement on this as I'm not sure of the rights and wrongs of this... The likes of Bannside (whose views on most things football is on the money) would be one id listen to ... And again he doesn't shy from letting other posters know who he is
MR2 like myself u are undoubtedly always ready to stand upright straight and tall in defense of your club and all within, but although I will be the first to say that CJ is a hugely talented individual he seems to be an quite abrasive character with strong opinions and sometimes he would be better served to keep his counsel................especially when the press would call. 
"Libelous crap"..............well I do reside in Cargin! ::)

I've never denied that CJ is too up front with his views, and that's as a manager to him and as a player on the team... I've had many disagreements with him and others within the club... No backdoor's that's not a bad trait to have if well managed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 11:20:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
Do you think Fitsy was fair game?

That's a different question to the one I put to you, if you want to publically lambast an Antrim player through a medium such as the GAA board I don't think there is any difference to what CJ did... And what CJ said is tame compared to some of the libellous crap on here... Again I don't have a judgement on this as I'm not sure of the rights and wrongs of this... The likes of Bannside (whose views on most things football is on the money) would be one id listen to ... And again he doesn't shy from letting other posters know who he is

Convenient.

I didn't go on national radio to lambast anyone.  CJ did and when he did, he had a pop at Fitsy.  That's wrong no matter what Bannside reckons.

You do accept though that you are hiding behind an alias and giving out about someone?? Convenient?? I'm not in the know or know enough of the background of this to pass judgement... Are you?

Milltown Row 2? That your real name?

You obviously not been on long... If you look back through the posts someone with a bit of wit will work it out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2015, 11:32:23 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 25, 2015, 11:27:23 PM
Sorry. I didn't realise you were that famous.

Anyway, I see you point. How could I not? But - Fitsy didn't say a bad word about anyone and is widely believed to have managed the situation well.  CJ went on radio and had a pop at him.  That's wrong unless you believe otherwise.

So the whole interview was to have a pop at Fitzy?? Was it that Fitzy told the lads to play but dropped them on the day of the game that probably was his main gripe...

I'm not even famous in my own house let alone the 'board' I'm like you giving opinions debating but we are all challenged on here and there is a bitta wind ups going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2015, 11:35:17 PM
Curious, I agree with you that if a media pro had prepared CJ for the interview it would have been a lot slicker. A few well rehearsed bullet points and all that. Make the most of the airtime to look really polished and articulate. As it was he did ok (for an off the cuff Q&A) but in time will learn to ask for his questions on advance via email and take an hour to construct a well thought out response. As MR2 says CJ is more a "this is the way I see it" straight from the hip guy and in time will learn that the media can be a powerful tool if properly used.

The reference to Fitzy should have been avoided but Fitzy is big enough to take the hit in a way that a lesser or more insecure man might not.

As someone said previously it's a good job both teams won instead of the other way around! Think of the stink THAT would have caused?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 25, 2015, 11:47:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2015, 07:33:46 PM
Word on the street about the St Galls 3 not so good. One for Boston on Wednesday and another in a full scale verbal spat with top county official after the match yesterday.

Really?

Or are you gossiping?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on June 25, 2015, 11:51:36 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but can somebody advise if the reason for the players being dropped  is the manager's stipulation or is it some sort of county rule ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 25, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
It's a no man's land.

From reading between the lines, Fitz did the correct thing in terms of squad morale, but was not forthright with the players involved as to why they were dropped. No big deal really but those wee things are inexplicable, inexcusable and the sort of thing Antrim could do with avoiding. He's new to inter-county management and it'll stand to him. Antrim to beat Fermanagh and then Cavan and finally lose out to Sligo in a tempestuous affair which see Murray sent off for sleggin Yeats.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 26, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
Did the manager not say they wouldn't have been fresh or fatigued from playing a game 24 hours previous, why was it such a shock to the players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on June 26, 2015, 12:17:20 AM
 after Antrim won without him and his references to the manager during his interview, will McGourty be selected against Fermanagh ?  If so, hopefully not at the expense of Ryan Murray who delivered big time last weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on June 26, 2015, 07:41:08 AM
Isn't mc bride, who started against Laois , and mc aleer, who came on as sub, away to the states so CJ might squeeze in without affecting Murray or will he use Murray as an impact sub with his pace as the boys tire?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 26, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
Did the manager not say they wouldn't have been fresh or fatigued from playing a game 24 hours previous, why was it such a shock to the players?

No the manager said he'll not be starting them (not you're dropped), so they trained and warmed up with the rest of the lads possibly thinking they might get some game time... now CJ didn't start last game due to injury and by all means could have been what Fitzy wanted to do, that is bring him on as an impact sub, but being 6/7 points down and the best defender we had against Fermanagh sitting on the bench (he's only a young pup) you would have to think I need to get him on... anyways Fermanagh next, hopefully we keep 15 on the pitch and go for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2015, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 26, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 26, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
Did the manager not say they wouldn't have been fresh or fatigued from playing a game 24 hours previous, why was it such a shock to the players?

No the manager said he'll not be starting them (not you're dropped), so they trained and warmed up with the rest of the lads possibly thinking they might get some game time... now CJ didn't start last game due to injury and by all means could have been what Fitzy wanted to do, that is bring him on as an impact sub, but being 6/7 points down and the best defender we had against Fermanagh sitting on the bench (he's only a young pup) you would have to think I need to get him on... anyways Fermanagh next, hopefully we keep 15 on the pitch and go for it.

Fairly knowledgeable about the situation now, MR2.   ;D

As someone already pointed out, St Galls won and Antrim won and I'm genuinely happy for both teams as they both seemed to have been done no favours.

was speaking to people involved today, thought I'd share that  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on June 28, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
Just back home from Croke Park.  Today's games by Westmeath and Dublin would restore your faith in Gaelic football in that fellas actually kick the ball, makes for a more entertaining display of the true game as it should be played.  Unlike the crap that teams in Ulster pedal, such as Tyrone, Donegal, Armagh and of course the type of negative, defensive and boring football that Antrim county and clubs attempt to emulate.

Well done Westmeath and Dublin, more of the same please!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 28, 2015, 11:47:25 PM
It was wrong, no two ways about it. Have to say that Fitzy emerges from all of this so far with tremendous credit. It is also the case that the players that are there have responded very well to Fitzy and his team. I absolutely believe we can beat Fermanagh and more importantly the players do too. Despite the body blow of boys taking off to the States, we now have a spread of experience of people who have played and won championship matches. I just hope that all involved see the advantages i attacking a team - 2.15 v Laois is a helluva better return than 0.8 V Fermanagh.

Can we all get back to talking about football now????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 30, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
Good idea Brendan..........forget about hurling.
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 30, 2015, 11:56:44 PM
well....it is a football thread, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 03, 2015, 08:39:43 PM
Seems the Macs will not start on Sunday................Hurling again ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 05, 2015, 08:37:40 AM
Need a huge performance today. A win would be a bonus obviously, but firstly let's be competitive from the start. We lost too many duels here a month ago and got slaughtered in the press and even within our own county....and even from those who do have the best interests of the county at heart.

Football is mostly about pride. When you lose that you have nothing. A big loud performance today can rectify everything that has happened this year and earn players and management a much higher respect level. Laois was a welcome tonic but win today and the prize is even higher. Go on lads.

Performance =Pride =Respect = Support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on July 05, 2015, 04:49:11 PM
Fermanagh 1-21 Antrim 0-11 FT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on July 05, 2015, 07:49:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 05, 2015, 04:49:11 PM
Fermanagh 1-21 Antrim 0-11 FT
Well the prolonged agony is all over now.  Thank goodness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 05, 2015, 08:27:18 PM
Well that was hard to watch..........where now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 05, 2015, 09:31:45 PM
See the younger Mac is flat out retweeting all the positive tweets that people aimed at him.

Always has to be about him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2015, 08:39:52 AM
That was truly shocking yesterday. Fermanagh looked like a well drilled outfit who played with hunger and purpose. Peter McGrath has got them playing well above themselves which is to me the sign of a good manager. Not that the dual all ireland winner needed to remind us of his qualities around a football team.

Less than one year ago Peter Mc Grath made it clear he was interested in the Antrim job. Our all knowing  (know nothing) officials did not even have the courtesy of contacting him, or even go as far as putting him on their shortlist.  This was just another example of their disgraceful lack of both courtesy and intelligence whilst tasked with the right appointment of our senior team management. And I could tell you half a dozen other similar stories about these clowns. Crimes against football in our county is an understatement!

In comparison Antrim looked like a bunch of misfits cobbled together! I have seen many bad Antrim performances over the years but that yesterday was stand out poor.

I'm not having a pop at our management here because I will make my feelings known to Fitzy independently. He served his time with minors and u-21 and was entitled to put his hand up for the job. He has given this all he has, often against the odds. No one will feel sicker this morning than Frankie and I don't plan to add to that. But he will need a big long think about how this can change if he is even remotely considering another year.

My ire is mostly reserved for the board who need to know exactly why three quarters of our first team were not playing yesterday. It's because they see our "set up" as a shambles, that's why. It's for our board who appoint a five man sub committee to oversee football management appointments, budgeting, ambition and structuring decisions despite the obvious fact that NOT ONE of them is properly qualified to do so. Not one of them coached at a high level or played at any level, relative to the position. Jim Murray (McDermotts) Joe Edwards (where did he come from) and Tyrone Eastwood WTF. Did those two ever kick a football in their life!! Jesus wept. Add in a county Treasurer (by default with no experience of finance) whose purpose at "interviews" is to keep the costs lower than the year before.....and less than 50% of the hurling expenditure.

Any wonder we are a mess.

Would they even know what to look for? Yet we allow these clowns to make football decisions. That needs to change with immediate affect at this year's convention.

And whilst I'm at it there's no way some players representing us can get off with that shit yesterday either. Not too many came out with any real credit (Niall Mc Keever looked like a footballer at least) but half a dozen players in particular let us, themselves and their manager down badly with performances that wouldn't allow them on a club team. They know who they are, and based on that maybe it's time for some of them to do the decent thing. When you get individual performances so poor it really wouldn't matter if you bring in the Dublin management.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 06, 2015, 12:00:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 06, 2015, 08:39:52 AM
That was truly shocking yesterday. Fermanagh looked like a well drilled outfit who played with hunger and purpose. Peter McGrath has got them playing well above themselves which is to me the sign of a good manager. Not that the dual all ireland winner needed to remind us of his qualities around a football team.

Less than one year ago Peter Mc Grath made it clear he was interested in the Antrim job. Our all knowing  (know nothing) officials did not even have the courtesy of contacting him, or even go as far as putting him on their shortlist.  This was just another example of their disgraceful lack of both courtesy and intelligence whilst tasked with the right appointment of our senior team management. And I could tell you half a dozen other similar stories about these clowns. Crimes against football in our county is an understatement!

In comparison Antrim looked like a bunch of misfits cobbled together! I have seen many bad Antrim performances over the years but that yesterday was stand out poor.

I'm not having a pop at our management here because I will make my feelings known to Fitzy independently. He served his time with minors and u-21 and was entitled to put his hand up for the job. He has given this all he has, often against the odds. No one will feel sicker this morning than Frankie and I don't plan to add to that. But he will need a big long think about how this can change if he is even remotely considering another year.

My ire is mostly reserved for the board who need to know exactly why three quarters of our first team were not playing yesterday. It's because they see our "set up" as a shambles, that's why. It's for our board who appoint a five man sub committee to oversee football management appointments, budgeting, ambition and structuring decisions despite the obvious fact that NOT ONE of them is properly qualified to do so. Not one of them coached at a high level or played at any level, relative to the position. Jim Murray (McDermotts) Joe Edwards (where did he come from) and Tyrone Eastwood WTF. Did those two ever kick a football in their life!! Jesus wept. Add in a county Treasurer (by default with no experience of finance) whose purpose at "interviews" is to keep the costs lower than the year before.....and less than 50% of the hurling expenditure.

Any wonder we are a mess.

Would they even know what to look for? Yet we allow these clowns to make football decisions. That needs to change with immediate affect at this year's convention.

And whilst I'm at it there's no way some players representing us can get off with that shit yesterday either. Not too many came out with any real credit (Niall Mc Keever looked like a footballer at least) but half a dozen players in particular let us, themselves and their manager down badly with performances that wouldn't allow them on a club team. They know who they are, and based on that maybe it's time for some of them to do the decent thing. When you get individual performances so poor it really wouldn't matter if you bring in the Dublin management.

Where do we start Bannside? What's your take on how we get out of this mess??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 06, 2015, 02:02:27 PM
I haven't posted on here for a while but yesterday shocked me out of retirement!  bannside is pretty much spot on.  I've seen a lot of Antrim over the past 30-odd years but the performance yesterday ranks amongst the very worst.  If possible it was worse than the Championship game.  I wasn't in Portlaoise so I don't know what happened there but yesterday once Fermanagh got to 0-7 to 0-3 up the whole energy seemed to evaporate out of Antrim.  Now, Fermanagh are not a bad side but they're not a great side either yet Antrim managed to concede 2-34 over two games.  There's a lot of praise for big Quigley this morning but to be honest I've rarely seen a player get so much time and space on the ball in an inter-county game.  Young Burke didn't let him have a kick the first day.  I'll not mention any names but there were half a dozen Antrim players who on that performance would struggle to get a game for Kilkenny.  We did the basics terribly and constantly took the wrong option.

Where do Antrim go from here??  I haven't a feckin clue but unless there's a serious re-think and investment in structure, schools and coaching for a start then the model of one great result every five years followed by consistent dross is set to continue for a long time.  Rant over, good bye!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on July 06, 2015, 02:39:45 PM
Have to say I feel sorry for bannside and supporters of his ilk, the guy has always been upbeat about Antrim even when it was obvious to most that Antrim were going no where, and his recent posts show that his optimism has starting to burned out. I know he has a young lad involved and it must be sickening to see a team his lad plays for being so brutally served by the CB and in turn by players who could offer so much but they have collapsed to the apathy. People like banside deserve so much more from the CB, so my question is why aren't there a people from clubs who have a genuine interest in their football, organise and involve themselves at the CB level to ensure positive change towards the football team? Its the only way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 06, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: AQMP on July 06, 2015, 02:02:27 PM

Where do Antrim go from here??  I haven't a feckin clue but unless there's a serious re-think and investment in structure, schools and coaching for a start then the model of one great result every five years followed by consistent dross is set to continue for a long time.  Rant over, good bye!

The main difference between Fermanagh and Antrim at underage level is St Michael's Enniskillen.
If you look at the Fermanagh team yesterday most of the young players there come from a McRory team that got beat in a final, a McRory team that won a final plus a team that made a McRory semi final.
Our record at minor and under 21 is pathetic.
If it was not for St Michael's and the professional approach to football that is adopted by the college we would be sunk.

If I was Antrim I think it is imperative for the future development of your county that you have a school's team (probably in Belfast) playing 'A' grade college football consistently.
St Michael's have not won a McRory in a while but the exposure of young Fermanagh players still playing 'A' grade colleges football will help their development. 

Fermanagh have also reformed the supporters group Club Eirne who are spearheading a fundraising movement aimed at helping the seniors and also help develop our youth structures.  There are a couple of very able ex players involved and this can also only be good news for our county. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2015, 04:49:19 PM
Thanks for the support lads but this runs so deep. For me personally it's 40 plus years of pathetic underachievement. I have a few ideas hoe we can sort this but it needs a huge groundswell of support or it will once again fall on deaf ears. Here we go.

1. At AGM a motion is presented that will see to it that in future persons capable of making football based decisions are in the majority.

2. A county Treasurer has no involvement.  The managers are told what their budget is.

3. The county secretary is not allowed to speak.  Just there to take notes. As Jim Mc Clean rightly pointed out at a recent county committee meeting.

4. At least one official in the interview process is from Ulster Council coaching and games development. Eugene Young. Terence Mc Williams or Tony Scullion. Or at least two from those three on a 5 man sub committee.

5. A blueprint for under 21 development totally separate from seniors.  Currently we allow both teams to be run by senior management solely to keep costs down, pitch hire, equipment etc. More on that later. Some high profile recently retired footballers or young coaches on good progress curve.

6. Senior panelists must grow a set of balls and make it clear once and for all that they are simply no longer prepared to accept mediocrity.  Just like Cork hurlers done a few years back before winning the Liam Mc Carthy a few months later. If they meekly accept what our county board offers them then they don't deserve any better. Time for some of the squad leaders to do that. Isn't that right Michael?

7. Appoint a fundraising committee to raise finance for one priority and that's county football development.  A policy. A blueprint. A plan that will be endorsed by the business community. And I know that this can be done if presented properly.

We are a sleeping giant being destroyed slowly but surely by a crowd of so called experts who shouldn't be trusted to organise a picnic.

8. Chase half a dozen of the "board " up the road.

That's for starters.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on July 06, 2015, 05:19:41 PM
I am in complete agreement with you BS, a novelty having Sharkin man and Portglenone man in such a situation.

(1)We have too many people making decisions on Football matters who clearly don't have the expertise to do so.  I am sure those from the hurling side of things would empathise with is also. 

(2) The old set in stone chairman, secretary and treasurer holy trinity even in a club committee is completely outdated.  Talented people are lost in translation in many clubs thus robbing them and the county of their skilled.
Id like to see a man prove himself at club level either in administration or coaching rather than seeing people filling roles just for the sake of it.

(3) We still have a problem with city and country when it comes to getting coaches working together, the county senior set up being an example this year.  I am not in anyway saying there is bias there but id love to see a 4 man coaching team spread across the county who use their local knowledge to further the county team.  I saw it in underage squads many times with coaches looking after there own and anything like that needs nipped in the bud.  I think there are 20+ good like minded coaches from all over the county who could be pulled together to lead the football revolution. These men need to be content in their roles be it U15 or senior that they are all part of a bigger picture and that they, the players, the clubs and the county in general are being catered for by the county board, not hindered. 

It really is time to stand up and take the bull by the horns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 06, 2015, 05:53:34 PM
Hard to know where the chicken and where the egg is. Generally agree about the ineptness of our administration. For anything to work well you need a critical mass. Antrim struggle for the right number of every type of gaa individual (dedicated supporter, dedicated coach, dedicated parents, dedicated talented administrators). I wouldn't know where to start changing hearts and minds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on July 07, 2015, 04:59:00 AM
Guys, we are at a low ebb no doubt. But these same sentiments were aired last year and the year before etc etc....what is for sure is that at each Co Convention, nothing changes. I can only imagine that the hurt of June / July goes away by the time December comes round. What else could explain it?

In ths last two years we have heard that Aidan O'Rourke was the answer, that John McKeever was the answer, and now that Pete McGrath  was the answer all allong. All well and good but is it as smple as that? I'm not sure anymore, our teams appear, in the big championship games, to go out and contain, stay in the game, clog things up, hopefully get scores on the break....all that bullshit. And you know what? Fermanagh are NOT a a good side, watch how far  they go, it wont take that long. Will Quigley score 14 V Rossies? No chance. FFS I'd like to think that he wouldnt get 14 off a e decent Div 1 full back.

as for the yankees, - yes I understand the allure, no doubt. But shouldnt they be asked at the start of the calendar year - Are you here for the duration or not? Guys cant leave a panel with the hearty best wishes of their  colleagues on the county team, can they?

Frank Fitz had a difficult year, and he handled himself very well, though I would like some explanation for the nature of Sunday's performance., But FF has earned a second year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2015, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on July 07, 2015, 04:59:00 AM
Guys, we are at a low ebb no doubt. But these same sentiments were aired last year and the year before etc etc....what is for sure is that at each Co Convention, nothing changes. I can only imagine that the hurt of June / July goes away by the time December comes round. What else could explain it?

Complete and utter apathy amongst a huge swathe of the population in Antrim. The critical mass doesnt exist.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on July 07, 2015, 10:51:56 AM
Tony Scullion to end county career

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/33423994
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 07, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
Hard to argue with Skulls assertion. Having been involved in Derry club football there is ten times more interest in club games, especially come championship time. However we have a huge passive support and this is our growth area.  Should we get a good run going our crowd would soon get out. So too would the business community I am certain of that too. But yes it's chicken and egg. At the minute no one wants to know and we have an uphill battle to change that.

Only way it can change is with a progressive new chairman or new board members who will have the foresight to do things differently.  At the minute inter county football is not on their priority list. It's way down the pecking order.

We need an independent  football sub committee with a job description and a remit to do what's needed. There is plenty of know how in our county - our club alone has three managers in Derry division One as a small example and i was round that block myself - and I know lots of good knowledgeable football men in Antrim who would have lots to offer given the opportunity. But the problem is many do not want us to achieve, not least many in the hurling community who see our progression as either a threat (yo finances) or a nuisance.

A football sub committee could go to Ulster and negotiate some assistance if needed and work in partnership with them until the corner has turned. After all its in their best interests to tap into a huge new target audience. This committee would be allocated a budget to manage, but could be free to organise additional fu draising initiatives to bolster their resources. In amy event it's now absolutely essential that football men get a chance to turn this around. The board men have failed due to a combination  of lack of ambition, lack of finances and most importantly lack of basic knowledge.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on July 07, 2015, 08:24:55 PM
Anybody who has a background in leadership structures etc, will tell you that the first golden rule in good organizational leadership, is that leadership starts from the top.

In all my time playing for and supporting Antrim, we have never had a good leader, who set out a vision on how Antrim can get to the top, in both hurling and football.

Antrim need a couple of things
1- A clear development structure for our youth. In my mind, this should not be solely focused on development squads but a system where we elevate the standards of all clubs. (Living in the US at the moment, and the NY Redbulls soccer structure is really interesting)
2- As previous posters have identified, a football leadership group, with a clear objectives and budget
3- Stop pandering / discussing players who don't want, or who have demonstrated an inability to give the necessary commitment
4- Schools schools schools, we should be setting an objective that Antrim has top teams in A, B, C,D college grade competitions
5- We need a marketing push to drive pride into Antrim Gaa. How many counties have the following

1- Had repersentatives  in the All Ireland, hurling, football and camogie finals. With 6 senior all Ireland titles
2- Had provided winners of All Ireland club titles in Hurling, football and camogie (all in the last ten years)
3- Won All Ireland U21 football, and beaten finalists a number of years later
4 - Continuously produce All Ireland handball champions
5 - Had players leading Co Derry school teams
etc etc

We have so much to be proud of, but the negative vibes are always allowed to prosper
Nearly all counties have a school system leading the development
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 08, 2015, 07:18:22 AM
Big shout out to Tony Scullion, a man who took pride in representing his county. Put in the hard yards for the Saffron cause year after year. Great character too - thanks for the memories.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2015, 12:32:18 PM
Being a tad disingenuous there Bannside in relation to 'hurling men'. Not saying that wouldn't be the opinions held in some quarters but in saying what you've said you're almost implying that the football fraternity in some quarters wouldn't think the same thoughts in relation to hurling?

How do think a hurling man anywhere in the rest of ulster (and even dare I say it South West Antrim) would answer that?

So at least call out all the ugly truths rather than the ones that suit the narrative you want to project.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 08, 2015, 03:24:14 PM
Good man Tony Scullion. Made the most of his ability and had serious commitment to the Saffron cause when very few else did.

Great servant, flying machine, hard hitter, line breaker who gave 100%
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 08, 2015, 04:18:15 PM
Agree totally on the comments on Tony Scullion....he is one of a kind and his like will be hard to replace in Saffron....remember him taking a fall from scaffolding a couple of years back and the leg injury incurred required 25 stitches....he was back wearing Saffron just over a week later in championship action.
Tony takes no prisoners on the pitch but he is a true gentleman off it...ask a favour and nothing is a problem
His finest hour in Saffron was his goal against Kerry in the All Ireland quarter final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 08, 2015, 07:18:37 PM
I would say Skull that the vast majority of football men in the county including the SW would have a kind disposition towards our hurlers and wish them well. In contrast I have met hundreds of hurling men - especially from the Glens,  who honestly have no interest whatsoever in the size 5.

In any case I enjoy and support both but my passion  is football. All I would ask for is an equal playing field each year in terms of budget allocation between the two. At the minute there is a huge disparity between the two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on July 08, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
I would agree with all of Bannsides sentiments. I also like many others get very emotional at the laughing stock that is Antrim GAA. I do feel there is greater potential for growth in football mainly because of location and playing participation especially in regards to Belfast. However Antrim has enough players to prosper in both. The only people letting the county down is ourselves we all need to do something. The reason these guys are in these positions is no one often stands against them, I would love if an ex county player either code would stand for the county chairmanship to try effect real change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
Are these glensmen a wile lot different than the majority of ulster gaa folk in relation to hurling Bannside? Your painting a rosy picture IMO.

Clubs with limited resources don't want to encourage the development of games which might affect what they currently do. Some see the money aspect , some the spreading thin of coaches to cater for it and others players getting spread thin and the potential for mediocrity in both to come about. All valid concerns though with the right will not insurmountable . People in the GAA will try and do things for the right reason but the "right reason" is different depending on what club your in or where your loyalties are . 

In Ulster I'm sure many GAA folk like to watch the AI hurling matches but that doesn't mean they theyd be up for it becoming strong in their own back yard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2015, 08:18:32 PM
In regard to having no interest in the size 5 whatsoever

As a dual player myself I always enjoyed playing . Watching is becoming harder and harder for more than just me as more and more teams play drawn out percentage passing.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 08, 2015, 09:55:50 PM
You're right there Skull. Majority of Ulster Gaels don't care enough about hurling. A real pity because it is a cracking sport, probably the best in the world.

But back to Antrim I have seen for myself a very important question being put to club delegates at a county committee about a football management position and needing a show of hands for or against. Very few people put their hands up on support of the recommendation yet it was approved. I enquired as to how this could happen to be told the hurling people in the room didn't care enough to vote either way. Unbelievable except I saw it for myself. That's at least 50% or more who are in a position to vote on these important football matters who couldn't care less. Which is why we need a football board to make these calls.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2015, 11:20:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 08, 2015, 09:55:50 PM
I enquired as to how this could happen to be told the hurling people in the room didn't care enough to vote either way. Unbelievable except I saw it for myself. That's at least 50% or more who are in a position to vote on these important football matters who couldn't care less. Which is why we need a football board to make these calls.

Hardly unbelieveable. Its OK to not have an opinion at times and rather than voting randomly and skewing the vote is it not better that they abstain and leave those who do care to carry the decision?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 09, 2015, 11:19:41 AM
Personally i would like to see two sub committees, one football and hurling. both made up of people who have that as their passion so football men looking after football and hurling men looking after hurling. Each is responsible for their own budget and fundraising. If the footballers want to go all out and get a big name then by all means go for it, making up the rest of funding required from where they feel they can. i believe galway may have, or did have a similar set up where it even went as far as the hurlers and footballers having different sponsors? i know everyone talks about being as one in a county but really those days are gone, the games are going in different directions and getting more professional therefore it is only logic that more people are required.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 09, 2015, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 08, 2015, 11:20:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 08, 2015, 09:55:50 PM
I enquired as to how this could happen to be told the hurling people in the room didn't care enough to vote either way. Unbelievable except I saw it for myself. That's at least 50% or more who are in a position to vote on these important football matters who couldn't care less. Which is why we need a football board to make these calls.

Hardly unbelieveable. Its OK to not have an opinion at times and rather than voting randomly and skewing the vote is it not better that they abstain and leave those who do care to carry the decision?
That's my view on it too. No point in voting for something if you don't have a clue in what you are voting for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 09, 2015, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 09, 2015, 11:19:41 AM
Personally i would like to see two sub committees, one football and hurling. both made up of people who have that as their passion so football men looking after football and hurling men looking after hurling. Each is responsible for their own budget and fundraising. If the footballers want to go all out and get a big name then by all means go for it, making up the rest of funding required from where they feel they can. i believe galway may have, or did have a similar set up where it even went as far as the hurlers and footballers having different sponsors? i know everyone talks about being as one in a county but really those days are gone, the games are going in different directions and getting more professional therefore it is only logic that more people are required.

Not sure how separate hurling and football is throughout clubs in Galway. Two sub committee would only work as long as any of the positive initiatives from each of them weren't tripping over the top of the others. That would happen in a county with a lot of dual clubs/players. Antrim has alot of dual players. One perspective is that as a county we should be very proud of that fact but no doubt its a tough life for a senior player playing both these days if both codes are trying to 'acheive'. Football only and hurling only people mightn't be happy with that reality (and I can see the reasons why) but its a reality none the less. Any plans to change things need to be grounded in the reality of where we're at currently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 09, 2015, 04:23:23 PM
New Antrim GAA Website

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 12, 2015, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on July 09, 2015, 04:23:23 PM
New Antrim GAA Website

(http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/general/visitantrim.jpg) (http://antrim.gaa.ie)

Pile of dung 😏
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 12, 2015, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on July 07, 2015, 04:59:00 AM
Fermanagh are NOT a a good side, watch how far  they go, it wont take that long. Will Quigley score 14 V Rossies? No chance. FFS I'd like to think that he wouldnt get 14 off a e decent Div 1 full back.


.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on July 13, 2015, 12:13:58 AM
Knew it! What I say about the disrespect shown to Fermanagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 13, 2015, 05:20:29 PM
Well done to Fermanagh who have proved they are not a bad football team. They don't have many big names but they have no bad players either. All pulling in the one direction under a very astute manager who we in Antrim treated with contempt when he clearly demonstrated a willingness to throw his hat into our ring. As for Quigley...That's why people still pay to watch our games. Someone who can score from all angles and distances. Good luck to them as they go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 25, 2015, 06:57:55 AM
Watched Galls win at Ahoghill last nite in the league and boy were they lucky to win. Fair play to them the kept at it after going four behind but they were well aided by a hugely controversiall late call and a huge portion of injury time of nine minutes added.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 25, 2015, 09:04:42 AM
I watched Ahoghill two weeks ago against Lamh Dearg and lose by one point too in a thriller. Gutsy team and hard to beat when they are in the mood. We play them next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2015, 09:44:42 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 25, 2015, 06:57:55 AM
Watched Galls win at Ahoghill last nite in the league and boy were they lucky to win. Fair play to them the kept at it after going four behind but they were well aided by a hugely controversiall late call and a huge portion of injury time of nine minutes added.

Were we at full strength??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 25, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
Both were under strength MR2.......Ahoghill were without all of the O'Connell brothers (4), and the lost a couple (JustinDowney, and Patrick Graham) to injury early on, that I am aware of. The champs werealso without, but would say they were stronger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2015, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 25, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
Both were under strength MR2.......Ahoghill were without all of the O'Connell brothers (4), and the lost a couple (JustinDowney, and Patrick Graham) to injury early on, that I am aware of. The champs werealso without, but would say they were stronger.

Yeah Niblock Kelly Karl Andy to name a few... Good for us to make a push for the League.. Its important as Cargin have the Championship wrapped up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 26, 2015, 08:34:40 AM
Jeez ur a tad touchy MR2........only making comment on what I saw, no assertions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2015, 09:44:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 26, 2015, 08:34:40 AM
Jeez ur a tad touchy MR2........only making comment on what I saw, no assertions.

I'm being funny, sorry I thought I put a smiley in  ::). ... So on what you have seen this year will Cargin finally win one??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 26, 2015, 05:41:03 PM
Cargin obviously have a chance MR2.......possibly the JB factor may help.......the acid test is the qtr final.....if they can get over that one they may well do it.......Gall's beat us they will win another title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on July 28, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
I wouldn't write off Lamh Dhearg just yet...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 28, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
When is senior championship in Antrim lads? hoping to maybe take in a few games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2015, 09:41:51 PM
Preliminary round this weekend CK.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 28, 2015, 09:53:41 PM
Where is the lamh dhearg and st John's game being played this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 28, 2015, 10:17:14 PM
Bearpit I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2015, 10:51:42 PM
Good win over Cargin tonight in MFC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 29, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
Posted on the Fermanagh v Dublin thread there....that should be us in the All Ireland QF, not Fermanagh.

We have better players than Fermanagh---they had to beat us, a Ross team with no forwards, likewise a Westmeath team who had one fluke (like us v Laois) comeback result v Meath

With last years team even id say we'd be in the QF

Shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 29, 2015, 10:11:03 AM
Imagine the crowd we'd have v the Dubs in an AI Quarter Final?!

Like with our population we should be putting it up to and playing the dubs yearly in the Championship.

Imagine the buzz
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2015, 10:11:22 AM
Gold do we really have better players than fermanagh? Really?

Ryan McCloskey. Seamus Quigley. Tomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly. These are the top 4 but there are more.

Do we have better than these guys? Name them because I doubt we do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 29, 2015, 11:06:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 29, 2015, 10:11:22 AM
Gold do we really have better players than fermanagh? Really?

Ryan McCloskey. Seamus Quigley. Tomas Corrigan. Eoin Donnelly. These are the top 4 but there are more.

Do we have better than these guys? Name them because I doubt we do.

Kevin Niblock, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann, Aodhan Gallagher, Sean Kelly, Terry O'Neill, Karl Stewart (never played football for the county), Bam Neeson (1-6 from play v Ferm last year), James Loughery (FS Cork)

If they all played (even now that a few have hit 30) we'd beat Fermanagh 9 out of 10 times I believe. They're all younger than McCloskey.

We have no elder players (over 30) with experience (bar Tony Scullion) whilst Monaghan had Lennon and Clerkin/Finley...Donegal have Gallagher, Toye, Lacey, McFadden...all the same age as the boys I mentioned and arguably in their prime (or just slightly on the wain) and game winners unlike young lads whose performances will be up and down and less likely to manage a game at that level

I just know I'd fancy my chances playing against the current Antrim team than one with the players I named above.

We need to find out why those boys above aren't playing (don't want to play) as you look at the likes of Eoin Lennon--who said he'd play another year as he realised Monaghan were on the verge of doing something again this year, knew he could add to it, gave his commitment and started, scored in and won an Ulster Title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
I disagree with your rating of a number of these players to be honest with you.  There are  a number on that list who in my view would be lucky to make the fermanagh squad.

If you look at Fermanagh too then the two Quigleys who aren't playing are up there with what we've got.

Every county has these problems of players not togging out.

I think , as per hurling, we have dilusions a little bit in the county. There is a big gap between where fermanagh currently are and where we are. A big gap.

P.S. I do admire your optimism though and wish I could be that optimistic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 29, 2015, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 29, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
I disagree with your rating of a number of these players to be honest with you.  There are  a number on that list who in my view would be lucky to make the fermanagh squad.

If you look at Fermanagh too then the two Quigleys who aren't playing are up there with what we've got.

Every county has these problems of players not togging out.

I think , as per hurling, we have dilusions a little bit in the county. There is a big gap between where fermanagh currently are and where we are. A big gap.

P.S. I do admire your optimism though and wish I could be that optimistic.

Fair point. Opinions differ but that's the point of a discussion board!

Think the issues need to be debated however. They'd be debated much more in counties like Down. There isn't enough self reflection in this county

Bold(er) moves like the County Board bringing in an Aidan O'Rourke as manager are required. Baker was what was needed at the time.

Dawson and now Fitzsimmons (despite he obviously caring and doing his best) are just not the options to bring us forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2015, 11:43:49 AM
Was Pete McGrath not in for managing us at one point or am I wrong on that?

I think Fitzsimmons deserves a lot of credit to be fair to him however there are two things which are really set out by the county board when we pick a manager -
1) what ambitons do we have as a county
2) what quality of coaching/ tactics etc etc will our players get

I think due to us not appearing to have any of number 1 from county board level then a lot of players just don't turn out. This is the really unfortunate thing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on July 30, 2015, 01:00:33 AM
Gold, very optimistic postings Karl Stewart and Terry O'Neill while savage club players certainly wouldnt make the Fermanagh team. The others for whatever reason do not have the commitment and all on the wrong side of 30 bar Bam and Tomas.
I Agree that county board are doing the Gaels in the county a disservice with their complete lack of ambition but sure noone has attempted to change the status quo and we are stuck in a rut.

Anyway, LD vs the Johnnies on friday night any predictions? I think the Johnnies could cause an upset here, they have mcbride and fitzpatrick back from america while LD have several absentees. It should be a close run thing anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim2011 on July 30, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
not a betting man but just looking @ paddypower odds

Ahoghill 6/5 to beat st pauls in SFC

Division 1 team against Division 2 team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on July 30, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
not a betting man but just looking @ paddypower odds

Ahoghill 6/5 to beat st pauls in SFC

Division 1 team against Division 2 team

Yeah and Ahoghill according to CB should have beat the county champions bar the 15 min injury time and that call for us to win.... Stick house on it ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on July 30, 2015, 01:07:18 PM
All this talk about Antrim could have done this, that and the other.  The most telling thing I've seen over the last week about Fermanagh is the comment from McGrath about their commitment - he said their attitude makes his job alot easier which allows him to get the best out of them.
That's the difference between Antrim and Fermanagh....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 30, 2015, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on July 30, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
not a betting man but just looking @ paddypower odds

Ahoghill 6/5 to beat st pauls in SFC

Division 1 team against Division 2 team

Yeah and Ahoghill according to CB should have beat the county champions bar the 15 min injury time and that call for us to win.... Stick house on it ::)
You must be the worst tipster in the world MR2......................but that 6/5 looks so attractive I'm gonna release the moths and have a few quid on that ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 30, 2015, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on July 30, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
not a betting man but just looking @ paddypower odds

Ahoghill 6/5 to beat st pauls in SFC

Division 1 team against Division 2 team

Yeah and Ahoghill according to CB should have beat the county champions bar the 15 min injury time and that call for us to win.... Stick house on it ::)
You must be the worst tipster in the world MR2......................but that 6/5 looks so attractive I'm gonna release the moths and have a few quid on that ;)

The worst tipster as I've tipped Cargin most years😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 31, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 28, 2015, 09:41:51 PM
Preliminary round this weekend CK.

MANY THANKS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 01, 2015, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on July 30, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
not a betting man but just looking @ paddypower odds

Ahoghill 6/5 to beat st pauls in SFC

Division 1 team against Division 2 team

Yeah and Ahoghill according to CB should have beat the county champions bar the 15 min injury time and that call for us to win.... Stick house on it ::)

And did you  ? You will be ins nicer house by next weekend if you did !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 04, 2015, 10:21:52 PM
Back to Ahoghill again MR2.......u pulling strings again? ₩ :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 04, 2015, 10:21:52 PM
Back to Ahoghill again MR2.......u pulling strings again? ₩ :)

Good pitch for us... Very successful up north since Casement has closed... We'd have won more had we played all our games in the SW  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 07, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
Cannot argue with that MR2.........but could u please tip Galls this time.....please, please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 11, 2015, 10:47:44 PM
Anytime they think they are going through get beat or have a few missing they don't turn up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 19, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
Think we are playing well at the moment MR2 .................looking forward to see how we match up this time................the JB factor is most evident and we may well give ur boys a game ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2015, 11:17:31 PM
Yeah I expect a very tight tight game, and it may be down to a mistake or a funny bounce of the ball that could decide it... The best team on the night will usually win... I hope it's us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 22, 2015, 11:16:35 PM
Bumpkin I wish I was as hopefully as you about our pros specs against st galls ,I think we are playing very poor this year and have a lot of problems up front I was at the friendly against omagh and to be honest they blew us away in the first ten minutes and where in second gear the rest of the game and they had 4/5 men missing due to county commitments with Tyrone.I hope I'm wrong but I think it will be the same result this year again even with the JB factor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WhizKid on August 24, 2015, 04:11:22 PM
I think this will be Cargins year, surely the lads will have a bit more hunger than St Galls.

Interesting to see if the lack of county football will have any affect on the Cargin contingent (who opted not to play)!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on August 25, 2015, 02:49:18 PM
Why do we think it will be Cargins year? Legitimate answers please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: WhizKid on August 24, 2015, 04:11:22 PM
I think this will be Cargins year, surely the lads will have a bit more hunger than St Galls.

Interesting to see if the lack of county football will have any affect on the Cargin contingent (who opted not to play)!

They must be starving at this rate!!! I just don't hope they need the diving team to get them back their medals ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 26, 2015, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 25, 2015, 08:54:50 PM
Whoever spouting sbout this so called 'JB Factor' is setting him up for one hell of a fall. If a team is relying on JB, then it says more about their mindset than anything else.

St Galls are too good.

+1, you can talk about that bit of luck in big games, good teams make their own luck and thats why galls always get one over on cargin come championship season, better players and teams make less mistakes. a manager can only take a team so far, once they cross the white line its 15 players against 15 and man for man galls have better players in more positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 26, 2015, 07:27:59 PM
The main difference between cargin and st galls is cargin don't play as a team ,it is well known around cargin that some players will not pass to others how can you win with that mentality on a team? Cargin have players as good as any st galls players but a lot are individual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2015, 03:35:25 PM
All joking aside, this is a fecking tough encounter for both teams, the main winners will be the other teams seeing one of the better teams going out, it can take a lot out of a team and they could be caught napping in the next game.. Hopefully Ahoghill is good to us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2015, 04:08:45 PM
Frank Fitz in for another term. Sometimes it takes a second year to iron out the kinks.  He will be a bit more knowledgeable about the role than this time last year so hopefully he can find 20 -30% improvement across the board that may get us out of division four.

His immediate priority should be to freshen things up. If he goes with the same as last year there is a good chance he will end up with the same result, which with the exception of one great display/result, will have to go down as overall very disappointing.

Going by the Irish News Fitzy seems to think Mick Mc Gurn is on board for next year but I wouldn't be so sure. In any event the backroom team needs an experienced heavy hitter or two around it to revitalise the whole set up. That's Franks top priority right now. Personally I think he deserves another year and wish him well but unless things are freshened up unfortunately there will be a raft of missing players just like last year. Hopefully he can see this because we need something to lift the total apathy around our county football team. Interest in it is at an all time low.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Cargin and St Galls should be a thriller. Fancied Cargin last year to break the Milltown domination and they couldn't get the job done. But I do think they have kicked on a bit further this year. Saw them dismantle Lamh Dhearg last week with ease, and are using the ball better than ever. Will be close and if I was having a bet it would be on a draw or Cargin by one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 28, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
Cargin v Gall's is now at 8.00pm.....................double header..................Rossa v Aldergrove 6.45..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on August 28, 2015, 07:36:19 PM
1 in hannahstown, 1 in ahoghill though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2015, 07:35:08 AM
Both in Ahoghill.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2015, 11:42:17 AM
According to today's Irish News Mick McGurn contacted the Irish News and insisted he will not be with Antrim Footballers. This is a worrying if not totally unexpected development....See my post earlier this week.

Mc Gurns involvement was a big coup for Fitzy and his plan going forward and would have played a significant part not only in helping Fitzy get the gig in the first place, but most likely an important factor in his recent two year reappointment. If he is no longer involved, and Fitzy clearly thought he would be, then there must have been a monumental breakdown of communications.

In some counties an interviewing panel might actually check out the detail, but not in Antrim. No one will care enough, or be professional enough to check out something as important as the availability of a key member of the senior backroom team before making a final decision. Absolutely no surprises there.

Fitzy has my support as a manager but if there was urgency before to surround himself with an experienced and proven backroom team, then that requirement level has risen to essential. His next few moves are vital to his own legacy and for the future of Antrim Football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 07:42:36 AM
Wonder why the Cargin v Gall's game has been changed to 8.00 ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 08:23:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 07:42:36 AM
Wonder why the Cargin v Gall's game has been changed to 8.00 ???

What's the lights like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 08:43:26 AM
Lights are fine MR2, we beat L D under them last year.....same as ours.......but why has the game been moved back to make lights necessary?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: manballandall on August 31, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
Is it not to accommodate double header?
Parking should be fun in those fields if it's wet at all, especially in the dark
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 10:57:21 AM
Was arranged as a stand alone game.........but obviously a double header would ensure an increase in admission........ £10?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 10:59:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 10:57:21 AM
Was arranged as a stand alone game.........but obviously a double header would ensure an increase in admission........ £10?

Was a fiver into Corrigan on Sat for senior championship double header, why would it cost more for football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 31, 2015, 11:21:14 AM
Any odds out for the galls game yet ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 01, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 10:59:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 10:57:21 AM
Was arranged as a stand alone game.........but obviously a double header would ensure an increase in admission........ £10?

Was a fiver into Corrigan on Sat for senior championship double header, why would it cost more for football?

And what a view you had for your fiver MR2  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2015, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 01, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 10:59:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 31, 2015, 10:57:21 AM
Was arranged as a stand alone game.........but obviously a double header would ensure an increase in admission........ £10?

Was a fiver into Corrigan on Sat for senior championship double header, why would it cost more for football?

And what a view you had for your fiver MR2  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Was a great view !!! Guinness was great also I might add
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 01, 2015, 04:15:45 PM
Nope, just one game at Ahoghill on Friday.......................u will get in for a fiver MR2.......................bet down I hope :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2015, 08:18:08 PM
Just off the fone to the very generous Paddy Power and here is the betting somebody asked for... Creggan 2/7 Ahoghill 3/1.......Gall's 8/15 Cargin 15/8...Rossa 1/2 Aldergrove 7/4 and L Dearg 1/4 Casement's 100/30.....what u think MR2 :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2015, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2015, 08:18:08 PM
Just off the fone to the very generous Paddy Power and here is the betting somebody asked for... Creggan 2/7 Ahoghill 3/1.......Gall's 8/15 Cargin 15/8...Rossa 1/2 Aldergrove 7/4 and L Dearg 1/4 Casement's 100/30.....what u think MR2 :)

Draw looks good for our game (always one draw) others to go to the favourites. For our game whoever gets that 'Magic' goal will decide the winners I think.... Hopefully CJ or Mickey come up trumps again.... Will youse continue to keep the same defenders on these lads like last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
M Pollock will certainly have a different marker this time, pace is required and my vote would be delivered to Kobo...................watched them training the other nite and they really are flying...........full panel and JB will have a task in selection.
On the other games I think Ahoghill are a serious bet at 3/1...............should be 1/1 ur pick in that one...........Rossa at 1/2 is a steal and although L Dearg should beat Casements it may well be a lot closer than some would think :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 02, 2015, 09:50:16 PM
Some of them defenders may well be forwards this time MR2   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
If u know ur history shoebox then u should know that JB has never lost a championship game at Cargin.......a factor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
If u know ur history shoebox then u should know that JB has never lost a championship game at Cargin.......a factor?

What's his results like at Ahoghill though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
Right then I will tell those silly Culchies not to weigh in then Shoebox.................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2015, 07:37:44 AM
I am sorry to say that ur opinion is quite irrelevant down here in Toome Shoebox, as such is based on perception from afar.......think u should stick to the hurling affairs for the present...........how long has it been since a city side has claimed the Volunteer cup.....mental frailties within.................or indeed how long has it been since any other city based side, other than the exceptionally excellent Gall's, won a senior championship?
Lotta mental frailties??









Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
This is silly and irrelevant Cargin have been an outstanding team that have just happened to come up against another outstanding team, had these teams came along at different generations they would have won a lot of championships .. such being we have managed to come out on top the most during this period... the sad thing is that having such good teams that could compete on the Ulster stage (club football) that we haven't managed to have a decent county team (bar team that got to Ulster final) that could live with the likes of Armagh Tyrone and Donegal

My only gripe is traveling down for a match on a Friday night and it will be fecking freezing !!!!!!!!!!! Summer my ass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 03, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
This is silly and irrelevant Cargin have been an outstanding team that have just happened to come up against another outstanding team, had these teams came along at different generations they would have won a lot of championships .. such being we have managed to come out on top the most during this period... the sad thing is that having such good teams that could compete on the Ulster stage (club football) that we haven't managed to have a decent county team (bar team that got to Ulster final) that could live with the likes of Armagh Tyrone and Donegal

My only gripe is traveling down for a match on a Friday night and it will be fecking freezing !!!!!!!!!!! Summer my ass
IGood points MR2 about the club standard, but if you take a longer look at the county in terms of good teams I believe we can see the worrying trend. In the past 20 years Antrim have been able to produce 3 teams that were good / competitive.

1995 - We had a team of great potential, did really well against Cavan, but fell apart after the Morrison / county board ruction.

2000-2001? - The team that went to the Ulster semi and had Derry beat except for some last minute heroics from big Antony, but fell apart after the manager resigned due to legit personal reasons

And the Ulster final team, which n fairness had a good 2-3 year period

The issue I have is that it looks like we produce a strong team every 10 years, and that each team lasts for about 1 year. We need more staying power and a speeding up of the frequency of good teams being produced.

Regarding Cargin / St Gall's rivalry , the margin of this rivalry is so small that it would have taken very little for Cargin to had dominated the past 10 years. St Gall's got on top, and have been so impressive with their endless obsession of winning Antrim, Ulster's and All Irelands, which has lead to an upper hand in Antrim that they have ruthlessly held onto.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2015, 09:28:23 PM
Creggan beat ahoghill by 7.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 03, 2015, 09:33:11 PM
Ref shoe box

You are right we are a football only club in a small area with neighbouring dual clubs I think we do a good job with area we have ,look how many clubs we have in a five mile radius our pick is pretty small and we are still very successful if any club punches above there weight in promoting the GAA it is clubs like us not a city club with thousands of people living a few hundred mtrs from there club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 03, 2015, 09:33:11 PM
Ref shoe box

You are right we are a football only club in a small area with neighbouring dual clubs I think we do a good job with area we have ,look how many clubs we have in a five mile radius our pick is pretty small and we are still very successful if any club punches above there weight in promoting the GAA it is clubs like us not a city club with thousands of people living a few hundred mtrs from there club!

Counter argument would be Belfast has soooo many clubs, we ain't parochial and so many other sports available.... Not to mention the other distractions of living in the big smoke!!... Is what it is I suppose and its all about cycles.. Ours is nearly up, will it be this Friday? :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 04, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
A lack of press around this fixture tonight, even online, find it quite strange!  Have people had their fill of this matchup? Expect nothing new?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 04, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
A lack of press around this fixture tonight, even online, find it quite strange!  Have people had their fill of this matchup? Expect nothing new?

Bring a good coat and a brolly (not Joe) hopefully we get over the line, all about the match ups really, who'll look after who, I'm expecting both teams to be defensive again and who's able to hold ball on a wet pitch and win dirty ball... we have been great at that side of things... Good referee tonight also and Brendan will be able to deliver the big calls when necessary, harder to call some black cards on a greasy surface, some are intentional others harder to call..

I expect a little controversy as this game always brings it up.... the fans have a bit of jovial banter (usually one sided ::) )

Great having Burkey back for us, massive player and he gave a great display last week in the senior hurling championship match v Loughgiel as did some of our other senior players... was just going to mention that if our Senior footballers go out and give the same intensity that the hurlers brought to the game v Loughiel and do it for 60 odd minutes I think we'll scrape over the line.. 2 point win with a last minute goal chance by Cargin going wide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on September 04, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 03, 2015, 07:55:36 AM
We're too busy promoting the GAA as it should be (all of the codes equally).  You are a football only club. The fact that you can't beat St Gall's when it matters certainly suggests the brilliance of St Gall's but asks questions of your mental strength against them. If I'm wrong I'll be the first to say it here.

I didn't mean to touch a nerve. So I'm sorry if I've annoyed you. It can't be easy year after year. All the very best for the game. It will be great for you to get the monkey off your backs. All I'm saying (from afar) is that I can't see it!
Boring, ur an ass really! Zzzzzzzz.   R u related to Brolly?  Keep ur distance and counsel in Ahoghill tonight, I'll make my own judgements and analysis ty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2015, 09:16:08 PM
Cargin 1-11 St Galls 0-8, 9 to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2015, 09:16:38 PM
Cargin up by 6 with ten to go!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2015, 09:27:33 PM
Cargin 1-14 St Galls 0-8 FT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on September 04, 2015, 09:31:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2015, 09:27:33 PM
Cargin 1-14 St Galls 0-8 FT

End of an era??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: getevennotcross on September 04, 2015, 09:31:16 PM
Maybe time now for Galls to committ to hurling? Fair play to Cargin, broke the hoodoo eventually.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 09:52:37 PM
Best team won... We just didn't turn up. Fair play Cargin seemed well up for it in the second half... Ah well Bumpkin will be happy ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!

I would say so as Cargin last won it in 2005
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 04, 2015, 10:37:08 PM
Sure am happy at the moment MR2 but in truth i did anticipate the win and took the 15/8 on offer by Mr Power, but hey we are only in the semis.
St Gall's are a super team and as our good friend Shoebox said this may well be 'good riddance to the monkey on our back'.
The question now posed to the Milltown men is can they return again............some may well predict their demise but then more than a few suggested, time and time again that 'Cargin would not be back'.
Only the foolish and the begrudgers uttered the latter statement, and most likely the same persons will predict the former.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:52:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!

I would say so as Cargin last won it in 2005

Mick McCann and few others would have been playing then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 10:58:15 PM
Good win, and I'm sure that was the first thing said after the game, you've won nothing... Time to celebrate tonight and look at the next game..

Serious line youse have, I thought at one point JB was standing in midfield... But that works... Loads of encouragement vocal support is good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 10:59:12 PM
Cargin deserve alot of respect for keepin on keepin on through all the dark days and coming out the far side

Important to note they've nothing won yet at this stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!

I would say so as Cargin last won it in 2005

Would st galls not  of won it then as they won all Ireland in 2006 (I think)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 04, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!

I would say so as Cargin last won it in 2005

Would st galls not  of won it then as they won all Ireland in 2006 (I think)
2010?
Beat in 06 final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 04, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!

I would say so as Cargin last won it in 2005

Would st galls not  of won it then as they won all Ireland in 2006 (I think)
2010?
Beat in 06 final?

This current crop of Cargin Galls teams, Cargin have never beaten us in a final, I don't think in history they have... Bumpkin can maybe know better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 04, 2015, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 04, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Is this the first championship win over St Galls for all the current team Cargin team?

What a team St Galls have been over the years!

I would say so as Cargin last won it in 2005

Would st galls not  of won it then as they won all Ireland in 2006 (I think)
2010?
Beat in 06 final?

This current crop of Cargin Galls teams, Cargin have never beaten us in a final, I don't think in history they have... Bumpkin can maybe know better
I meant were St Galls beat in 06 All Ireland final? And won All Ireland in 2010?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 04, 2015, 11:36:25 PM
Very dissapointed with St galls tonight.

Not sure why niblock was kept on the field for so long when he was obviously injured.

Well done Cargin , some lovely scores at times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 11:36:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 04, 2015, 11:23:16 PM
Cargin won Antrim in 2006.

And Slim Shady who used to post here got a run out in the Ulster Championship.

Decent referee too ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 04, 2015, 11:42:52 PM
Was a lot of quality on show tonight. Watching that game u would wonder why antrim football is in the state it is. Not sure there would be a higher quality first round game in any championship in ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 04, 2015, 11:55:02 PM
Can't believe we won tonight need to buy into this JB factor ,hard luck to galls but I don't think we have seen the last of them they will still be there next year and we have won nothing yet a massive game ahead against creggan and it will be a real battle .The whole team played tonight and Tomas had Kelly on the back foot from the start but mick McCann put in a massive preformance one of his best ever in the green shirt about time we got the monkey of our back  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2015, 12:09:10 AM
Thought Michael McCann's performance was as good as you'll see across any club championship this year.

What happened for the Cargin goal? Couldn't really see. Seemed to happen out of nothing.

High standard of point taking at times. St Gall's came out swinging in the second half but 3 wides dented their momentum. Galls looked a bit weary with a few players carrying injuries.

Kieran McGourty must be in his 50s?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 05, 2015, 12:22:13 AM
Ref oneill

I think with the goal big pudgy new he should have taken the chance in the first half so when he got the ball he made his way along the end line and he might have been fouled but ref played advantage and I think galls keeper thought he would go for a point but he seemed to just hit it along the ground and took everyone by surprise including me when it went in .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2015, 12:28:32 AM
What a game of football. Who's knocking the JB factor now. The man wins championships everywhere he goes - its just that simple.

Delighted for Cargin but full of respect too for St Galls.  Unfortunately this is the start of their demise make no mistake about it. Not saying they won't be competitive for years, and may well win another championship, but the awesome once in a generation players like Kel, a couple of Mc Gorts, Andy, Brady, Healey,  Niblock, Aidso, Karl and Terry - all Ireland club finalists twice and multiple Kilmacud sevens winners - won't be replaced like for like. That's a certainty.

Finally, am I alone in thinking Antrim county has massively underachieved with so many great players. There was at least one if not two Ulsters in this generation, but we couldn't ever get a county board to find a management team capable of delivering this.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 05, 2015, 12:38:56 AM
Are the semi finals being played next weekend or when?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on September 05, 2015, 12:38:56 AM
Galls were very very poor, and one would question why? Really? A few strange matchups! but all credit to Cargin who were hungry, motivated, and playing the far better football.  Saint Galls are an amazing club, and who would bet against them winning again next year.  bEst of luck to Cargin in the champ, a few other teams will now believe they can also win it!!!😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 05, 2015, 12:40:48 AM
Maybe I have my rose tinted glasses on but it was a good game of football with some very good scores from both sides a good advertisement for antrim football thought ref had a good game to apart from the 3 strange decisions he made at the start of the second half over ruled the ompier and give 2 frees for what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2015, 07:45:44 AM
That's the third leg of my quad up. Waiting on Portglenone now to bump it up. Got 4 sons hoping to feature...so plenty of adrenalin in the house all week with their friends in and out too. Lamhs hot favourites and rightly so, but we are work in progress still and today will let us know how far we have come and where we stand.

Still buzzing about that game last night. Long time since you saw that kind of raw passion and atmosphere at an Antrim club match. Well done to Brendan Toland on refereeing a game that was always on the edge, and also to host club Ahoghill who once again proved that they can stage the big matches.







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2015, 08:02:32 AM
Rossa are sitting very comfortably beneath the radar and were excellent by all accounts. Really impressed with them when they demolished us in a league game when they a half a dozen players missing. Any team that hopes to beat them will need their A game that's for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
Its Cargins to lose....

The lads have won 13 odd titles, 8 in a row 2 all Ireland finials on win 2 ulster's Kilmacud titles and numerous runner up leagues  :o.... They have represented the club and Antrim so well over the years and when the county was lagging we at least showed that in Antrim there are good footballers...

I've had some fantastic road trips over the years, great weekends away and some serious celebrations following this team... They owe the club nothing and I'm sure they are gutted, but hopefully they'll dust themselves down and we can put our efforts into the next generation.....

Well done Ahoghill on last night, great crowd down good atmosphere pitch looked great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2015, 08:34:12 AM
In my opinion that St Galls performance last night would still have beaten last year's Cargin. St Galls men who are in the know thought their team was as well prepared as ever, and pre throw in were expecting the usual result! Albeit the hurling did come in the way of ideal preparation, but a dual club expects that upheaval.

No, the difference wasn't down to anything St Galls did wrong. Cargin a different animal under Brennan who rules with an iron fist. If Brennan had been there last year Cargin would have won then too. Surely youse can see that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 05, 2015, 08:44:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
Its Cargins to lose....

The lads have won 13 odd titles, 8 in a row 2 all Ireland finials on win 2 ulster's Kilmacud titles and numerous runner up leagues  :o.... They have represented the club and Antrim so well over the years and when the county was lagging we at least showed that in Antrim there are good footballers...

I've had some fantastic road trips over the years, great weekends away and some serious celebrations following this team... They owe the club nothing and I'm sure they are gutted, but hopefully they'll dust themselves down and we can put our efforts into the next generation.....
Said it all MR2..........Gall's have been superb and really carried the Saffron flag high in both the provincial and National stadiums and they owe their supporters nothing.
Cargin have been close, but all too often not close enough, but they have also given us Toome folk a tremendous time both in victory and defeat.
Character has always been questioned within the green and white but how can such have ever been in doubt when they have returned from agonizing defeats time and time again.
The trick for ur boys is can they follow the Cargin lead in that sphere...........2016 will certainly test resolve with the likes of Sean Kelly, Terry O' Neill, Anto Healey, Kieran Mc Gourty and all those the wrong side of 30.
Hope they can return to the big stage, but it will not be easy.
Well done Ahoghill on last night, great crowd down good atmosphere pitch looked great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 05, 2015, 08:34:12 AM
In my opinion that St Galls performance last night would still have beaten last year's Cargin. St Galls men who are in the know thought their team was as well prepared as ever, and pre throw in were expecting the usual result! Albeit the hurling did come in the way of ideal preparation, but a dual club expects that upheaval.

No, the difference wasn't down to anything St Galls did wrong. Cargin a different animal under Brennan who rules with an iron fist. If Brennan had been there last year Cargin would have won then too. Surely youse can see that.

There was a bounce of a ball in it last year... A half block on McCann's shot... Always small margins in these games... Had we stuck over the 3 easy chances at the start of the second half the game could have went the other way... For me watching the game we didn't get to see Sean Kelly in the ball enough driving forward getting the usual score.... Injured or tactical... But that's not him last night. We also need to change things up too, we've done so well with a style of play that its become our undoing... Brennan has won one game, if you think the other teams are going to lie down then give them the title now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 05, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
There is always a massive amount of talk about 'match ups' before big games these day and on last nights viewing I feel Cargin got theirs spot on. Kevin O'Boyle did a great job on Micky Pollock, you only have to look back at last years final and Pollock running Justin Croizer (albeit half fit) ragged for an hour. Justin on Niblock was massive as well although Niblock picked up an injury and looked laboured up to that he had been very much on the periphery. Bar a great score in the opening salvo CJ was kept pretty quiet by Donagh Mc Keever.

Midfield was important as well, St Galls have shown for years the importance of strong running, hard tackling no frills midfielders and I feel Cargin replicated that last night in their set up with both John Carron (who kicked a great score) and Gerard McCann going through a mountain of work and breaking a glut of ball, it takes that kind of unglamorous work to win big games. That in turn allowed Mick McCann to play a role with more freedom and took the onus of being the primary ball winner round the middle off his shoulders, a move that can no one can deny had a huge bearing on the game. Was suprised St Galls left Anto Healy on him as long.

For me the biggest difference and it outlined Cargins approach to the game was Tomas McCann, its probably fair to say that Sean Kelly has got the better of Tomas over the last number of games and in turn carried St Galls forward with his ability to get the ball from back to front, however every time Tomas got the ball last night he drove at Kelly putting him on the back foot and drawing frees or setting up scores. Like the Cargin team he never took a backward step all night.

A great win for Cargin and far from the demise of St Galls.

Some excellent score taking as well, sets up a real classic between the parish rivals in the semi final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Atticus_Finch on September 05, 2015, 09:27:12 AM
Very enjoyable game last night.  If you wanted an argument of why there should be no back door in club championship you could base it on that game.  There was a tangible intensity to the game and you could see what it meant to both teams.

Turning point for me was as has already been pointed out by MR was the start of the second half from St Gall's when they kicked three consecutive wides. Which is very uncharacteristic of a team that had one maybe two wides the whole first half.  What was even more uncharacteristic was the sideline ball which led to the goal.  The sideline ball could have arguably been a free for Cargin as it seemed Magill was pushed as he went down for the ball as it went out of play.  The resulting sideline was kicked towards Kerr and mcKernan hijacked the pass and only seemed to have one thing on his mind as he bore down on goal.  He had a good goal opportunity in the first half and I'm wondering did john Brennan remind him of this at half time !

After that Cargin showed the composure that St Gall's have done in previous years by retaining the ball, in a sevens football style and only making the pass if it was clearly on.

There were a number of excellent Cargin performances.  They got the upper hand at midfield with a superb game from Mick McCann and some great fielding by John Carron as well. Defensively they were very impressive as well.

The victory clearly meant a lot to Cargin folk but I'm sure they will wake up this morning realising that it will count for almost* nothing if last night's victory is not converted into silverware. While Cargin are deserving of the favourites title from here on in,  Creggan, Lamh Dearg and Rossa will be thinking they are all in with a shout.  *clearly getting the monkey off their back still counts for something.

The only thing I was disappointed about last night was that JB seemed to be a bit more subdued than his usual championship self.  Couple of pitch walk ons but no real fireworks !

Credit to Ahoghill for once again putting on a great show. Stewarding, traffic control, speaker announcements all Top notch. 

St Gall's have had a great run, I'd say those lads will be there or thereabouts for the 7s competition this year as usual. 

MR I think that was two years ago when it was very close, your lads won comfortably enough last year from what I can remember. Could be wrong on that.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2015, 10:47:07 AM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on September 05, 2015, 09:27:12 AM

Turning point for me was as has already been pointed out by MR was the start of the second half from St Gall's when they kicked three consecutive wides. Which is very uncharacteristic of a team that had one maybe two wides the whole first half.  What was even more uncharacteristic was the sideline ball which led to the goal.  The sideline ball could have arguably been a free for Cargin as it seemed Magill was pushed as he went down for the ball as it went out of play.  The resulting sideline was kicked towards Kerr and mcKernan hijacked the pass and only seemed to have one thing on his mind as he bore down on goal.  He had a good goal opportunity in the first half and I'm wondering did john Brennan remind him of this at half time !


Michael McCann deserves a lot of credit for stemming that early onslaught from Galls in the second half. He recognized that Cargin were panicking after a composed first half and you could hear him telling a few players in no uncertain terms to calm the feck down. It was him then who nabbed a score to get their second half going and they never looked back.

As for the lad who goaled, he was reminded of his lack of intestinal fortitude in the immediate aftermath of his fisted goal chance and I'd say he made a point of rectifying that.

Galls have too much talent not to tag on a couple of Antrims before the guts of that side retire but the amount of miles on the clock and injuries means they're far from being serious Ulster winners again. Although an extended break from championship football could re energize the batteries.

Ahoghill stewards were excellent. Did their job and did it well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 05, 2015, 01:03:52 PM
We won a championship a few years ago via a back door, IIRC. Was it Cargin who'd beaten us earlier back then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Yep at up the country and we beat them in final handy... Was scrapped next year I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 05, 2015, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Yep at up the country and we beat them in final handy... Was scrapped next year I think

Aye, just thinking about this stuff about monkey off the back etc. Cargin have to kick on from this and at a minimum win the championship before talk like that is anything more then words.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 01:23:10 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 05, 2015, 01:14:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Yep at up the country and we beat them in final handy... Was scrapped next year I think

Aye, just thinking about this stuff about monkey off the back etc. Cargin have to kick on from this and at a minimum win the championship before talk like that is anything more then words.

Was only quarterfinal they'll get past their neighbours, who like Cargin for years against us have a mental block.... Lamhs have beaten Cargin (in Casement) in championship before so they wont be overawed by them should they meet...

Bit Cargin have an extra gear and should they win Antrim do well in Ulster, I hope
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 05, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
What was the attendance last Nite?

Probably a bigger crowd than what will at the final .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Not sure but as big a crowd I've seen in a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 05, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 05, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
What was the attendance last Nite?

Probably a bigger crowd than what will at the final .
Big crowd alright but try and get a figure....................bet u will be told 5/600.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 06, 2015, 10:02:31 AM
Went up the road yesterday to take a look at the champions elect (possibly self proclaimed), as Lamh Dearg beat Portglenone and was not at all impressed.
The men from up the hill seem utterly reliant on the place ball skills of Cunningham and I think they only managed a couple from play.
They did seem on the way when they led by seven shortly into the second half (Portglenone had kicked a lot of wides in the first half), but it was all downhill thereafter.
They were just hanging in there for the last 15 minutes and indeed looked to the favours of the ref in that time......the Paddies whistler (city refs for all of the city v country senior games) was most lenient when he allowed Conor Murray to escape without a card for an indiscretion on the Ports number 5(grab around the neck and swung to the ground), and he ignored what looked a cast iron penalty when Niall Mc Keever was dumped and sat upon inside the square with l dearg under extreme pressure at the time and just four ahead.
Mc Keever was to see red a few minutes later (harsh in the extreme) to aid l d home.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2015, 11:19:32 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 06, 2015, 10:02:31 AM
Went up the road yesterday to take a look at the champions elect (possibly self proclaimed), as Lamh Dearg beat Portglenone and was not at all impressed.
The men from up the hill seem utterly reliant on the place ball skills of Cunningham and I think they only managed a couple from play.
They did seem on the way when they led by seven shortly into the second half (Portglenone had kicked a lot of wides in the first half), but it was all downhill thereafter.
They were just hanging in there for the last 25 minutes and indeed looked to the favours of the ref in that time......the Paddies whistler (city refs for all of the city v country senior games). Conor Murray did escape without a card for an indiscretion on the Ports number 5 and he ignored what looked a cast iron penalty when Niall Mc Keever was dumped and sat upon with l dearg under extreme pressure and just four ahead.
Mc Keever was to red a few minutes later (harsh in the extreme) to aid l d home.

Brendan is a Belfast referee no??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 06, 2015, 11:36:48 AM
Mr Toland is indeed based in South Antrim MR2....................and?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 13, 2015, 12:25:01 PM
Jeez I know Cargin were good, but did such really provoke this lengthy period of stunned silence?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 16, 2015, 02:01:25 PM
Creggan v Cargin 7:30 friday 2nd September

How will they line up

should be a close contest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: otbar on September 16, 2015, 02:01:25 PM
Creggan v Cargin 7:30 friday 2nd September

How will they line up

should be a close contest

I don't think so, teams have clubs that they sometimes get the better off (like Cargin against us) on the rare occasion and Creggan can be like that against their neighbours.. Can't see it... be defensive for a bit but Cargin should open them up... 2nd October though  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 16, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Creggan have got a lot of good players so would not underestimate them and a very nibble forward line so im not sure they will go overly defensive.
They have not done this in the league nor in the champ against ahoghill.

Cargin strong but slow in the full forward line - two cumbersome men inside which i think we can cut out.  There half forward line is one that concerns creggan.
Michael mccann and tomas are the winning of the game IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Quote from: otbar on September 16, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Creggan have got a lot of good players so would not underestimate them and a very nibble forward line so im not sure they will go overly defensive.
They have not done this in the league nor in the champ against ahoghill.

Cargin strong but slow in the full forward line - two cumbersome men inside which i think we can cut out.  There half forward line is one that concerns creggan.
Michael mccann and tomas are the winning of the game IMO.

Anytime I seen Creggan play against Cargin or ourselves they play a defensive game with plenty behind the ball... Should they open up they might have a chance, will Michael McCann play in the half forward line again? thought it really worked well against us and was the winning of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 16, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
Yes he was the catalyst - surprised anto healy stayed on him as long as he did - taking nothing away from him.
Will be a few interesting match ups. 

If cargin get ahead it would be like st galls - very hard to claw back hence need to open up like you say and go for it.
Lets hope it lives up to the first half of the st galls cargin 1/4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 17, 2015, 07:06:23 PM
Cargin have a slow inside forward line Otbar................well has JB confirmed team selection to urself...............no slow coach Ciaran Close  or even Gerard O' Boyle, Oran Mc Auley or even Tomas Mc Cann involved in that line?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2015, 09:43:59 PM
30 of us heading off Friday night to Dublin for the weekend. Taking part in the sevens on Saturday and all booked into same accommodation.  Should be some crack!! Oldest swinger in town going too.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 17, 2015, 09:43:59 PM
30 of us heading off Friday night to Dublin for the weekend. Taking part in the sevens on Saturday and all booked into same accommodation.  Should be some crack!! Oldest swinger in town going too.....

Enjoy, some of my best memories are at seven's tournaments!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 18, 2015, 09:40:12 AM
G o boyle no longer plays and the other two fellas are on the bench - if any close would get the nod.  t mccann is half forward country B.
Are you saying them 3 boys should be inside forward line?

What changes do you think he will make - i cant see him making any TBH.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 18, 2015, 02:45:01 PM
Well you can certainly fully expect JB to come up with the unexpected, and team selection is away out of my remit I'm afraid.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on September 18, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Any word on the venues and dates for the IFC amd JFC semi finals? County have been very slow on this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 18, 2015, 04:50:06 PM
country bumpkin

Out of interest, what is the JB factor? He definitely seems to have the midis touch at getting teams over the line, Lavey, Moortown, Cargin, Slaughneil, prob left a couple out, so serious question, what does he do differently?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2015, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on September 18, 2015, 04:50:06 PM
country bumpkin

Out of interest, what is the JB factor? He definitely seems to have the midis touch at getting teams over the line, Lavey, Moortown, Cargin, Slaughneil, prob left a couple out, so serious question, what does he do differently?

Carrickmore it was I think. Not Moortown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on September 18, 2015, 04:50:06 PM
country bumpkin

Out of interest, what is the JB factor? He definitely seems to have the midis touch at getting teams over the line, Lavey, Moortown, Cargin, Slaughneil, prob left a couple out, so serious question, what does he do differently?

I'd say like most great managers they command respect, have discipline, have desire and a passion to win... Mix that with experience, tactical awareness and cuteness you'll have a great manager..

I don't think he was the reason that beat us.. It was just our time... In our pump he'd have found it harder or even had we not met till final (which Cargin have never beaten us) he'd have been found wanting... But never to be good luck to all the teams... Be rooting for Rossa from here on in now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on September 18, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on September 18, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Any word on the venues and dates for the IFC amd JFC semi finals? County have been very slow on this


Friday 2nd October
SFC Creggan v Cargin in Ahoghill @ 730pm


Saturday 3rd October
IFC Dunloy v Gortnamona in Creggan @ 3pm
IFC Glenavy v Rasharkin in Creggan @ 430pm

JFC Ardoyne v Glenravel in St Endas @ 430pm

Sunday 4th Ocober
JFC Eire Og v Davitts in Sarsfields @ 1.30pm
SFC Lamh Dhearg v Rossa in Corrigan @ 3.30pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on September 24, 2015, 09:39:03 AM
Congrats to St. Enda's on finally winning the minor football championship last night after just falling short the last 2 years.  Good to see a new name on the trophy and hopefully a sign of the improving standards of gaelic football in the North of the city. Some very good footballers on their name but what a player they have in their full forward Odhran Eastwood! Some excellent players on the Creggan team too especially the two Small's. Yes there is talent within the county providing it can be nurtured properly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2015, 10:27:14 AM
hear the gate receipts from the galls v cargin game says just over 900 in attendance...............well it seems Ahoghill have some big holes in their hedges.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2015, 10:31:09 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2015, 10:27:14 AM
hear the gate receipts from the galls v cargin game says just over 900 in attendance...............well it seems Ahoghill have some big holes in their hedges.

Surely you jest  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
Afraid not MR2..............that is what they do say..................lotta underage, holes in hedges etc, etc, etc............ :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 28, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
Afraid not MR2..............that is what they do say..................lotta underage, holes in hedges etc, etc, etc............ :P

I don't think its the Hedges that have the holes...... yet in 2015 we can get neither a receipt nor a stub which would confirm attendance. Derry Gaa provide two windows, But ticket at one and hand it over at the other. simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 28, 2015, 01:07:28 PM
£34 I paid in last night to Owenbeg. Myself and three other family members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2015, 03:16:40 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 18, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on September 18, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Any word on the venues and dates for the IFC amd JFC semi finals? County have been very slow on this


Friday 2nd October
SFC Creggan v Cargin in Ahoghill @ 730pm


Saturday 3rd October
IFC Dunloy v Gortnamona in Creggan @ 3pm
IFC Glenavy v Rasharkin in Creggan @ 430pm

JFC Ardoyne v Glenravel in St Endas @ 430pm

Sunday 4th Ocober
JFC Eire Og v Davitts in Sarsfields @ 1.30pm
SFC Lamh Dhearg v Rossa in Corrigan @ 3.30pm

whats the county's obsession with fri night games when a sunday is free?

surely there would be more at the game than a fri night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 28, 2015, 10:57:37 PM
our friends who do occupy high places within are only obsessed with their gate receipts DR, and u are quite right Sunday would be a proper setting for such occassion ................night games at this time of the year do no favours to either combatant or indeed spectators as it is cold, and prohibits the attendance of young children, with the playing surface which is usually heavy with dew leading to slippery terrain..........but hey the little guys do like to put football and footballers in their place, and do not anticipate any such placement of hurling games in the near future. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on September 29, 2015, 12:09:09 AM
I think they've put that match on Friday to avoid the Derry final, will likely get some extra walk up from south Derry on Friday as opposed to Sunday afternoon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2015, 07:35:22 AM
Fair enough. Big crowd of SW Antrim folk up at Owenbeg on Sunday night for Derry semi finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2015, 10:25:28 AM
fair enough, but you need to worry about your own and not another county!

a sunday would of gotten a bigger attendance. Christ the money they made in dunloy for the 3 big games in the hurling they wont need to worry about the derry final! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2015, 03:36:51 PM
See the most generous Mr Power is going 2/9 Cargin, 4/1 Kickham's.................wanna bet? :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 04:01:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2015, 03:36:51 PM
See the most generous Mr Power is going 2/9 Cargin, 4/1 Kickham's.................wanna bet? :o

9000 grand to win 2000... Hmmm tempting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
Friday 2nd October
SFC Creggan v Cargin in Ahoghill @ 730pm Cargin to win by 3/4


Saturday 3rd October
IFC Dunloy v Gortnamona in Creggan @ 3pm   Dunloy
IFC Glenavy v Rasharkin in Creggan @ 430pm Glenavy

JFC Ardoyne v Glenravel in St Endas @ 430pm Glenravel

Sunday 4th Ocober
JFC Eire Og v Davitts in Sarsfields @ 1.30pm  Davitts by 6/7
SFC Lamh Dhearg v Rossa in Corrigan @ 3.30pm  Lahm Dhearg
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2015, 08:37:55 PM
Some price Rossa at 33/10. Won't be in the least bit surprised to see then beat Lamh Dhearg if they are anywhere near full strength.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2015, 08:37:55 PM
Some price Rossa at 33/10. Won't be in the least bit surprised to see then beat Lamh Dhearg if they are anywhere near full strength.

The only 'upset' game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
The Lamhs beat us by 4 but it wasn't nearly a four point game if you get my drift. We missed a lot of scorable chances and LD were much more clinical than us. But on other days our chances would have been converted but that's football, so no complaints from us. I liked the look of Rossa when I saw them. Plenty of talent there helped by the addition of some great minors recently.

Only problem is they never seem to get them on the pitch at the same time whatever the problem is. At full strength they would be a handful for most teams (in my humble opinion anyway).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on October 01, 2015, 03:11:18 PM
Getting to the business end of the season. Also think Rossa could spring an upset v Lamh Dhearg. Think Brennan will have Cargin focused v Creggan and cant see an upset. Although Creggan will have Conor Small in their ranks after using him very sparingly to concentrate on the minor this year. He will be a big bonus. Would be great to see a Rossa v Creggan final! :)

Also really important weekend in Division 2 where Ballymena should get the win the need v St. Enda's to seal promotion although the Glengormley me are on a high after winning the minor c'ship. But at the other end of the table relegation is still on the cards for any 2 from 5 teams after Glenavy saved themselves last week when St. Brigids put out a dud team against them to concentrate on winning the reserve league.
Word on the street is that Moneyglass are gonna do the same thing as St. Brigid's against Tir na nOg this weekend since its a dead rubber for them, and Tir na nOg need a win or they get relegated. They feel they got shafted last year when St. Teresa's and Gorts played out a draw on last day of season to suit both teams. Although if its a city v country nonsensical thing this will mean that Rasharkin are back in the mix and will need to win their last game away to Gorts to secure their status.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 01, 2015, 10:58:03 PM
 St brigids could lose out  yet ! Time will tell!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 02, 2015, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
Friday 2nd October
SFC Creggan v Cargin in Ahoghill @ 730pm Cargin to win by 3/4


Saturday 3rd October
IFC Dunloy v Gortnamona in Creggan @ 3pm   Dunloy
IFC Glenavy v Rasharkin in Creggan @ 430pm Glenavy

JFC Ardoyne v Glenravel in St Endas @ 430pm Glenravel

Sunday 4th Ocober
JFC Eire Og v Davitts in Sarsfields @ 1.30pm  Davitts by 6/7
SFC Lamh Dhearg v Rossa in Corrigan @ 3.30pm  Lahm Dhearg


Friday 2nd October
SFC Creggan v Cargin in Ahoghill @ 730pm Cargin


Saturday 3rd October
IFC Dunloy v Gortnamona in Creggan @ 3pm   Gort
IFC Glenavy v Rasharkin in Creggan @ 430pm Rasharkin

JFC Ardoyne v Glenravel in St Endas @ 430pm if this was fri or sun id say Ardoyne but Saturday il say Glenravel

Sunday 4th Ocober
JFC Eire Og v Davitts in Sarsfields @ 1.30pm Davitts by 10+
SFC Lamh Dhearg v Rossa in Corrigan @ 3.30pm Rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 02, 2015, 10:06:43 PM
Mr Power is the man...................will u remember ur friends when u collect ur 2k MR2 ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Never in doubt!! Holidays paid then  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2015, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2015, 06:21:11 PM
Disappointing for us today.
Lámh Dhearg were slightly the better team but we had our chances to win it.
I think we were robbed of a draw though. It was a certain (easy) free in at the death but not given.
That's sport. Ah well....

Always next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
U were robbed indeed HS, and everybody in the ground saw the foul.....except the ref.
Was not impressed by the Lamhs, and they seem utterly reliant on the excellent Conor Murray...................I am a touch biased but if cargin still have the JB factor within it is their's to lose ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2015, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 04, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
U were robbed indeed HS, and everybody in the ground saw the foul.....except the ref.
Was not impressed by the Lamhs, and they seem utterly reliant on the excellent Conor Murray...................I am a touch biased but if cargin still have the JB factor within it is their's to lose ???

Referee fault then?? Ah well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2015, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2015, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 04, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
U were robbed indeed HS, and everybody in the ground saw the foul.....except the ref.
Was not impressed by the Lamhs, and they seem utterly reliant on the excellent Conor Murray...................I am a touch biased but if cargin still have the JB factor within it is their's to lose ???

Referee fault then?? Ah well
It was a free. As cb says, everyone I spoke to (including Johnnies men  ;D) thought it was a free and he had been giving frees for similar and less all day.

But....he got it wrong. Our players made many mistakes that, had they not, we'd could have won the game.

It's tough. It happens everyone at some stage.

Agreed and games aren't won or lost (or in this case drawn) on one borderline free... Rossa are a young team plenty to work on .... Lamhs have got out of jail twice this year... Could be difference in close games... Plus they have beaten Cargin in championship recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2015, 09:11:03 PM
Ciaran Close still a class act. Epitomises what a good corner forward should do and looks fitter than ever. Was my MOM on Friday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2015, 10:26:21 PM
May well be losing it MR but excuse me if I am mistaken but didn't Cargin finish well clear of L D in last years semi final?
Think u are going back a ways past 'recent' perhaps 7-8 years back.
By the way Cargin have never beaten Rossa in a senior final.
But hey the measure of character is how to handle the heartache of defeat....................Do u think Cargin have anything to prove thereon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 04, 2015, 10:26:21 PM
May well be losing it MR but excuse me if I am mistaken but didn't Cargin finish well clear of L D in last years semi final?
Think u are going back a ways past 'recent' perhaps 7-8 years back.
By the way Cargin have never beaten Rossa in a senior final.
But hey the measure of character is how to handle the heartache of defeat....................Do u think Cargin have anything to prove thereon?

They have to win to prove their worth, ultimately beating us is just a route to the next round, granted its a great bonus.... I fully expect Cargin to beat a Lamhs team that have struggled this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 05, 2015, 08:52:02 AM
Didn't get to the Rossa v Lamhs yesterday but no surprise that there was little between them. Rossa no bad side. I see their team selection in today's IN and it confirmed my fear that they never seem to get their best players out.

No SP Donnelly, Gareth George, James Connolly, Beller, O Fleming, and Finch, Crickey McGuinness, Adrian Orchid and the county's outstanding minor Gérard Walsh only getting game time as late replacements. Sorry but that's just too much quality missing from any line out. And it's certain I have missed a few others as well.

What's going on here HS?

In fairness Ryan Murray some loss for the Red Hands.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 05, 2015, 09:08:42 AM
 nice surprise for us to be in the intermediate final. Have to give fair dues to our new management, they have taken us from going no where for years to promotion to Div 2 and the county final in their first season.

Too long has football been looked over in our club and the right people have come in now and done great work. They are working well with our hurling set up and its worked wonders (well expect for the hurlers being dumped out lol).

Promotion was the main aim so anything is a bonus at this stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
DR you have had some very good footballers over the years up there with the best in the south west but unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it!) the small ball always takes precdence!

YOu guys are division 3 with most intermediate in division 2 so decent win no doubt.

I read somewhere that Ballymena got promted to division 1 for the first time in 20 years. Anyone know if this is correct??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 05, 2015, 09:30:39 AM
they did, it was up on their twitter feed yday confirming it.

Hurling will always be the main game in Dunloy but the footballers have now put themselves back on the map again this season. next year we will be competing in minor A for the first time in years as well so good times for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
DR you have had some very good footballers over the years up there with the best in the south west but unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it!) the small ball always takes precdence!

YOu guys are division 3 with most intermediate in division 2 so decent win no doubt.

I read somewhere that Ballymena got promted to division 1 for the first time in 20 years. Anyone know if this is correct??

1st time in 26 years I read somewhere. Unreal when you think of some of the talent they've have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
They have always seemed to have a county player in their midst whatever level they're at.

Haven't seen much of them in revcent years but the year they got to ulster intermediate final I thought they looked very good with LOgan and McVeigh in midfield.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2015, 11:26:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
They have always seemed to have a county player in their midst whatever level they're at.

Haven't seen much of them in revcent years but the year they got to ulster intermediate final I thought they looked very good with LOgan and McVeigh in midfield.

Logan brothers, McVeigh brothers and a few lads like Liam Cassley, Michael McCarry & Peter McNicholl.

Always are a big strong side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 05, 2015, 11:37:26 AM
Sad to say it but there is no team in the county near cargin at the minute - was at both games at the weekend and cant see how LD will cause them any bother - creggan are a better footballing team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 12:15:46 PM
I expected Creggan to be a lot closer than they were. It does look like it's either cargin or st galls and no one else is close though I guess we'll see in the final.

LD don't seem to have pushed on from their good minor team. I don't know that much about both teams but from outside looks that Rossa are built from good minors of recent years so should be pretty young and LD are from their good minor team who you'd expect to be pushing on now. You'd expect Rossa to improve more over the coming years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 05, 2015, 08:21:51 PM
When and where is the final ? Can i assume Sunday week in ahoghill ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
Sunday 18th in ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 05, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
U sure u got that one right Tommygun..................hear the wee man who makes all the decisions palns to play the senior final at either Sarsfield's or Corrigan.......... :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2015, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 05, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
U sure u got that one right Tommygun..................hear the wee man who makes all the decisions palns to play the senior final at either Sarsfield's or Corrigan.......... :o

Christ ya can't have it in your neck of the woods every time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2015, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 05, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
U sure u got that one right Tommygun..................hear the wee man who makes all the decisions palns to play the senior final at either Sarsfield's or Corrigan.......... :o

County antrim post tweeted so...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 05, 2015, 11:33:11 PM
aye right MR2 wasn't it in ur neck of the woods for the previous hundred years or so, but hey sure aren't we all one county :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 06, 2015, 04:53:38 PM
Senior Final is in Ahoghill. 4pm Sunday 18th October.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Aristocrat on October 08, 2015, 02:42:30 PM
Lads, any games  in adult football or hurling happening either Saturday day or Sunday morning around the Falls road/Falls park area, wanted to go up and have a look at St. Galls ground (across from Miltown cemetery yeah?)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2015, 02:54:04 PM
Falls park 2 o'clock sunday dunloy play davitts.

Saturday games seem to be country only.

(Those are all county fixtures unless there are some south antrim ones someone knows of?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Aristocrat on October 08, 2015, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2015, 02:54:04 PM
Falls park 2 o'clock sunday dunloy play davitts.

Saturday games seem to be country only.

(Those are all county fixtures unless there are some south antrim ones someone knows of?)

Cheers might try and catch that, Davits are on the Falls I take it near the Failte restaurant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 08, 2015, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 08, 2015, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2015, 02:54:04 PM
Falls park 2 o'clock sunday dunloy play davitts.

Saturday games seem to be country only.

(Those are all county fixtures unless there are some south antrim ones someone knows of?)

Cheers might try and catch that, Davits are on the Falls I take it near the Failte restaurant.



Their bar is, Falls Park is another mile or so up the same road.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on October 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 08, 2015, 02:42:30 PM
Lads, any games  in adult football or hurling happening either Saturday day or Sunday morning around the Falls road/Falls park area, wanted to go up and have a look at St. Galls ground (across from Miltown cemetery yeah?)

There's an u14 girls football blitz on Sunday morning in St Galls starting at 10am, I think there's around 20 teams going to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Aristocrat on October 09, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
Cheers gents.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 12, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on October 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 08, 2015, 02:42:30 PM
Lads, any games  in adult football or hurling happening either Saturday day or Sunday morning around the Falls road/Falls park area, wanted to go up and have a look at St. Galls ground (across from Miltown cemetery yeah?)

There's an u14 girls football blitz on Sunday morning in St Galls starting at 10am, I think there's around 20 teams going to it

I went to the Blitz on sunday and it was great. Football on display was top class, organisation was as good as I have seen for a juvenile blitz and overall I just have to say how well run it was by St Galls. would like to commend all the teams for their performances and the levels of skill on display.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
The 3 County Football  finals this weekend, what are thoughts on the games?

I'm going for a Cargin, Glenavy & Glenravel treble.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Sure the most generous Mr Toal makes it 1/3 Cargin........wanna bet MR2? :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Sure the most generous Mr Toal makes it 1/3 Cargin........wanna bet MR2? :)

Free money.... 6 grand on makes you 2 grand!! Pays for the holidays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2015, 03:57:35 PM
U really are THE man MR2........ ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
The 3 County Football  finals this weekend, what are thoughts on the games?

I'm going for a Cargin, Glenavy & Glenravel treble.

i would go Cargin, Dunloy and Glenravel. would have fancied Davitts in the JFC but 2pm on a Saturday might no be the best time for them. A few Irish League players who have contracts, its hard on them too, lads who have played all year and are going to miss out on the final. I don't think either team would have complained playing it on sunday before the senior game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 12, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
The 3 County Football  finals this weekend, what are thoughts on the games?

I'm going for a Cargin, Glenavy & Glenravel treble.

i would go Cargin, Dunloy and Glenravel. would have fancied Davitts in the JFC but 2pm on a Saturday might no be the best time for them. A few Irish League players who have contracts, its hard on them too, lads who have played all year and are going to miss out on the final. I don't think either team would have complained playing it on sunday before the senior game

such is life. If a county final isnt the most important thing to you in that given year let alone that weekend then so be it. Fixtures cant keep getting changed for clubs with soccer players. They have got important championship fixtures changed in the past (including against my own team) and i dont think it is sustainable. Where would it end?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 12, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
The 3 County Football  finals this weekend, what are thoughts on the games?

I'm going for a Cargin, Glenavy & Glenravel treble.

i would go Cargin, Dunloy and Glenravel. would have fancied Davitts in the JFC but 2pm on a Saturday might no be the best time for them. A few Irish League players who have contracts, its hard on them too, lads who have played all year and are going to miss out on the final. I don't think either team would have complained playing it on sunday before the senior game

such is life. If a county final isnt the most important thing to you in that given year let alone that weekend then so be it. Fixtures cant keep getting changed for clubs with soccer players. They have got important championship fixtures changed in the past (including against my own team) and i dont think it is sustainable. Where would it end?
True i agree we shouldn't move our fixtures for soccer. My gripe is that GAA is traditionally played on a sunday in this county. Davitts are a Junior club and i think that Junior clubs should be helped to get their best players out, JFC teams generally don't have the luxury of massive squads. What i would disagree with is that you make it sound simple that the players have a choice to make, they don't they have contracts with Irish League clubs they cant pick and choose. I think if you asked the players given the chance they would def pick their Davitts game but they don't have a choice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2015, 09:26:46 PM
When teams have been playing Wednesday & Sunday all year, I don't think it's fair to throw a game in on a Saturday especially a county final. Did Davitts not play the first round on Thursday? I know from my own club that the amount of lads we have working on a Saturday makes up a chunk of the starting team.

I'm of the opinion that all county finals where possible should be played on a Sunday and I'm not taking the soccer debate into it at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before

I don't think thats the point though they should have the chance. Heres an example Sean O'Neill in my opinion is one of the best players in the county at what he does. it just so happens he's also one of the best soccer goalkeepers in the country and makes a few quid in doing so. I feel for players like this who would give anything to play for their club in a county final but their job comes first. Also its unfair on their team mates who have worked hard to get there and will be without some of their best players for the biggest game of the season. Some times i wonder do the county board do these things on purpose, i know we say not to accommodate other sports but esp at junior level i think we should try and help clubs not hinder them, these players are GAA members and at the end of the day the co board are there to facilitate the GAA clubs and their members so sometimes maybe common sense should prevail, i don't mean now changing the game but not fixing it at that time in the first place and do the clubs a favour discreetly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before

I don't think thats the point though they should have the chance. Heres an example Sean O'Neill in my opinion is one of the best players in the county at what he does. it just so happens he's also one of the best soccer goalkeepers in the country and makes a few quid in doing so. I feel for players like this who would give anything to play for their club in a county final but their job comes first. Also its unfair on their team mates who have worked hard to get there and will be without some of their best players for the biggest game of the season. Some times i wonder do the county board do these things on purpose, i know we say not to accommodate other sports but esp at junior level i think we should try and help clubs not hinder them, these players are GAA members and at the end of the day the co board are there to facilitate the GAA clubs and their members so sometimes maybe common sense should prevail, i don't mean now changing the game but not fixing it at that time in the first place and do the clubs a favour discreetly.

Is that his full time job?? Or is it a part time extra job were he makes a few quid?? We all have to make sacrifices in life and if I worked for the fire service and was on call I'd have to make that decision... But if it wasn't my main job, I know where id be... Lining out with my club/family/friends.... Its a very easy choice for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2015, 08:09:45 AM
Sean O Neill maybe not the best example....because he's a goalie so won't have too much legwork to do. Absolutely great gaelic player too...county standard for sure, but he will be ok to play for Davits on Sunday and will take some watching.

Liam Boyce on the other hand. What's the story with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 13, 2015, 08:38:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before

I don't think thats the point though they should have the chance. Heres an example Sean O'Neill in my opinion is one of the best players in the county at what he does. it just so happens he's also one of the best soccer goalkeepers in the country and makes a few quid in doing so. I feel for players like this who would give anything to play for their club in a county final but their job comes first. Also its unfair on their team mates who have worked hard to get there and will be without some of their best players for the biggest game of the season. Some times i wonder do the county board do these things on purpose, i know we say not to accommodate other sports but esp at junior level i think we should try and help clubs not hinder them, these players are GAA members and at the end of the day the co board are there to facilitate the GAA clubs and their members so sometimes maybe common sense should prevail, i don't mean now changing the game but not fixing it at that time in the first place and do the clubs a favour discreetly.

Is that his full time job?? Or is it a part time extra job were he makes a few quid?? We all have to make sacrifices in life and if I worked for the fire service and was on call I'd have to make that decision... But if it wasn't my main job, I know where id be... Lining out with my club/family/friends.... Its a very easy choice for me.

Totally agree,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 13, 2015, 08:38:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before

I don't think thats the point though they should have the chance. Heres an example Sean O'Neill in my opinion is one of the best players in the county at what he does. it just so happens he's also one of the best soccer goalkeepers in the country and makes a few quid in doing so. I feel for players like this who would give anything to play for their club in a county final but their job comes first. Also its unfair on their team mates who have worked hard to get there and will be without some of their best players for the biggest game of the season. Some times i wonder do the county board do these things on purpose, i know we say not to accommodate other sports but esp at junior level i think we should try and help clubs not hinder them, these players are GAA members and at the end of the day the co board are there to facilitate the GAA clubs and their members so sometimes maybe common sense should prevail, i don't mean now changing the game but not fixing it at that time in the first place and do the clubs a favour discreetly.

Is that his full time job?? Or is it a part time extra job were he makes a few quid?? We all have to make sacrifices in life and if I worked for the fire service and was on call I'd have to make that decision... But if it wasn't my main job, I know where id be... Lining out with my club/family/friends.... Its a very easy choice for me.

Totally agree,

i disagree, i don't think you can compare playing soccer in the irish league to any other part time job as they are getting paid to do something they enjoy and would probably be doing at a lower level if they weren't IL standard anyway. The thing being this is a small country and could you imagine the uproar if one of these players said they were injured and couldn't play soccer on saturday then lined out for their club? the lads would be hung out to dry, not fair on them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 13, 2015, 08:38:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before

I don't think thats the point though they should have the chance. Heres an example Sean O'Neill in my opinion is one of the best players in the county at what he does. it just so happens he's also one of the best soccer goalkeepers in the country and makes a few quid in doing so. I feel for players like this who would give anything to play for their club in a county final but their job comes first. Also its unfair on their team mates who have worked hard to get there and will be without some of their best players for the biggest game of the season. Some times i wonder do the county board do these things on purpose, i know we say not to accommodate other sports but esp at junior level i think we should try and help clubs not hinder them, these players are GAA members and at the end of the day the co board are there to facilitate the GAA clubs and their members so sometimes maybe common sense should prevail, i don't mean now changing the game but not fixing it at that time in the first place and do the clubs a favour discreetly.

Is that his full time job?? Or is it a part time extra job were he makes a few quid?? We all have to make sacrifices in life and if I worked for the fire service and was on call I'd have to make that decision... But if it wasn't my main job, I know where id be... Lining out with my club/family/friends.... Its a very easy choice for me.

Totally agree,

i disagree, i don't think you can compare playing soccer in the irish league to any other part time job as they are getting paid to do something they enjoy and would probably be doing at a lower level if they weren't IL standard anyway. The thing being this is a small country and could you imagine the uproar if one of these players said they were injured and couldn't play soccer on saturday then lined out for their club? the lads would be hung out to dry, not fair on them.

Also not fair on other clubs with teams who are fully committed to GAA.
The GAA has a responsibility to the GAA.

It is hard enough for Antrim GAA to factor in hurling and football and Ulster GAA commitments when arranging fixtures, not you want them to factor in Saturday soccer!!!!

The players have a choice, and no one is demonizing them for playing soccer, but you can expect them to be given preference for fixture dates because of clashes.

Would NI soccer consider rearranging the fixture?? Answer No. Why do you expect Antrim GAA to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 13, 2015, 08:38:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 12, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
They'd be in quare nick to play a county championship final after playing 90 minutes the day before

I don't think thats the point though they should have the chance. Heres an example Sean O'Neill in my opinion is one of the best players in the county at what he does. it just so happens he's also one of the best soccer goalkeepers in the country and makes a few quid in doing so. I feel for players like this who would give anything to play for their club in a county final but their job comes first. Also its unfair on their team mates who have worked hard to get there and will be without some of their best players for the biggest game of the season. Some times i wonder do the county board do these things on purpose, i know we say not to accommodate other sports but esp at junior level i think we should try and help clubs not hinder them, these players are GAA members and at the end of the day the co board are there to facilitate the GAA clubs and their members so sometimes maybe common sense should prevail, i don't mean now changing the game but not fixing it at that time in the first place and do the clubs a favour discreetly.

Is that his full time job?? Or is it a part time extra job were he makes a few quid?? We all have to make sacrifices in life and if I worked for the fire service and was on call I'd have to make that decision... But if it wasn't my main job, I know where id be... Lining out with my club/family/friends.... Its a very easy choice for me.

Totally agree,

i disagree, i don't think you can compare playing soccer in the irish league to any other part time job as they are getting paid to do something they enjoy and would probably be doing at a lower level if they weren't IL standard anyway. The thing being this is a small country and could you imagine the uproar if one of these players said they were injured and couldn't play soccer on saturday then lined out for their club? the lads would be hung out to dry, not fair on them.

Also not fair on other clubs with teams who are fully committed to GAA.
The GAA has a responsibility to the GAA.

It is hard enough for Antrim GAA to factor in hurling and football and Ulster GAA commitments when arranging fixtures, not you want them to factor in Saturday soccer!!!!

The players have a choice, and no one is demonizing them for playing soccer, but you can expect them to be given preference for fixture dates because of clashes.

Would NI soccer consider rearranging the fixture?? Answer No. Why do you expect Antrim GAA to?

If you read my post i specifically said i am not suggesting they rearrange the fixture to accommodate soccer, i said maybe they should take it in to consideration when sitting down to arrange the final, especially at junior level where the pool of players aren't as big. Factor in that GAA is usually played on a wed or sunday i think it is reasonable at the start of the year a player thinks he can juggle playing both.

You're right the GAA has a responsibility to the GAA and its members, i don't think by playing soccer at the highest level possible in this country makes you any less of a GAA member, in fact the opposite these are players who are playing at the top soccer level in this country and making a few pound doing so yet still commit to play for their GAA club in Div 3 Antrim i think these players should be encouraged not left with a bitter taste at the business end of the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on October 13, 2015, 11:04:39 AM
All this nonsensical talk about soccer players being available on a Saturday or not. Either they choose to play for their club or they don't and choose to play another sport. It's their decision. themac-23 twice referred to Sean O'Neill as being ones of the best soccer players in the country. What country are we taking about here? Are we talking about the Irish League because if we are, surely you are referring to part of a country ie six counties of Ireland. One thing I have noticed in recent years is the number of soccer players who refer to teams in the Irish League as being the 'best team in the country' or the being the best league ' in the country' or as Liam Boyce did last week when he referred to the six counties as being 'the whole country'. Really? Are these people just stupid? I'm sure he wasn't taught that in St. Mary's CBS. Money talks I guess. Some of these guys must need geography lessons  and stop referring to the six counties as a country. It is part of Ireland. As our Rugby players what country they play for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: Peileadoir on October 13, 2015, 11:04:39 AM
All this nonsensical talk about soccer players being available on a Saturday or not. Either they choose to play for their club or they don't and choose to play another sport. It's their decision. themac-23 twice referred to Sean O'Neill as being ones of the best soccer players in the country. What country are we taking about here? Are we talking about the Irish League because if we are, surely you are referring to part of a country ie six counties of Ireland. One thing I have noticed in recent years is the number of soccer players who refer to teams in the Irish League as being the 'best team in the country' or the being the best league ' in the country' or as Liam Boyce did last week when he referred to the six counties as being 'the whole country'. Really? Are these people just stupid? I'm sure he wasn't taught that in St. Mary's CBS. Money talks I guess. Some of these guys must need geography lessons  and stop referring to the six counties as a country. It is part of Ireland. As our Rugby players what country they play for?

i think you know what I'm referring to when i say the country, I'm not talking about the whole country but ok lets talk the whole of Ireland, i don't watch much LOI to be fair but id say Oneill would be one of the top keepers there too but its kind of missing my point. a quick look on hoganstand throws this up: http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=245513 so is it acceptable to change fixtures to try get more paying patrons through the gates because they might sit at home watching rugby but not acceptable to arrange a fixture to have the best players available and make a better game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on October 13, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
Well if you are referring to the Irish League please state that, otherwise you are legitimising the six-county state as do all uneducated six-county soccer internationals when they refer to this part of Ireland as 'the country'. Personally speaking I would not fix a county final for a Saturday, not because it clashes with soccer but because a lot of people work on a Saturday and Sunday is the traditional GAA day. Saturday evening as a compromise would probably draw a bigger crowd as evening throw-ins tend to prove popular.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 12:22:38 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on October 13, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
Well if you are referring to the Irish League please state that, otherwise you are legitimising the six-county state as do all uneducated six-county soccer internationals when they refer to this part of Ireland as 'the country'. Personally speaking I would not fix a county final for a Saturday, not because it clashes with soccer but because a lot of people work on a Saturday and Sunday is the traditional GAA day. Saturday evening as a compromise would probably draw a bigger crowd as evening throw-ins tend to prove popular.

Yeah meant Irish League, was just for the purpose of this and not in a political sense. Yeah I know what you mean, but for these lads Soccer is their saturday job now don't get me wrong there are lads who are working on a saturday and will also have to get it changed, but i think its a bit easier to get out of a saturday shift in a bar/ shop than it is to get out of playing irish league in front of circa 1000 people. Even if this was possible there is no way of stopping it from getting leaked. I don't know if Glenravel will have any missing because of the timing either but both teams should be helped as much as possible to get their strongest team out and if that meant a 6pm throw in or Sunday before the senior final then so be it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 13, 2015, 12:26:30 PM
County board should wise up and play this game on Sunday. Common sense is not something they excel at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 13, 2015, 12:26:30 PM
County board should wise up and play this game on Sunday. Common sense is not something they excel at.

Agreed, but they won't change it now, shouldn't have been fixed for sat in the 1st place. they won't change it so doesn't look like they are facilitating soccer, which is unfortunate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 13, 2015, 12:26:30 PM
County board should wise up and play this game on Sunday. Common sense is not something they excel at.

Agreed, but they won't change it now, shouldn't have been fixed for sat in the 1st place. they won't change it so doesn't look like they are facilitating soccer, which is unfortunate.

This has nothing to do with the facilitation or non facilitation of soccer.

It's  to do with the Senior County Final being fixed for a Sunday, plain and simple, and the county not wanting other county finals to clash with the senior final, i.e the marquee football game all year is the senior football final, so the playing of other finals as a double header is OK, but not splitting them, as it will distract from both finals. This is common throughout the land

BTW, the county has been doing this for years, I have played in two Int finals, one on a Sunday, one on a Saturday. We just got on with it. The Sat one was fixed because the senior final was on the next day. No problem for us, players got time off work, made the normal sacrifices and got on with the game.

Every player has the right to play whatever sport they want to, and the county has whatever right to fix their games how the want to.

The players playing soccer have options, so the decision of what game to play is absolutely theirs to make. Maybe you should be talking to them, and not pointing fingers elsewhere.

BTW, this argument sums up why Antrim football is at the bottom of the rung in Antrim. This would not be tolerated in other counties.

For example Baker, playing for Coleraine, got it written into his contract that if a game clashed with his club, he would play for the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 13, 2015, 12:26:30 PM
County board should wise up and play this game on Sunday. Common sense is not something they excel at.

Agreed, but they won't change it now, shouldn't have been fixed for sat in the 1st place. they won't change it so doesn't look like they are facilitating soccer, which is unfortunate.

This has nothing to do with the facilitation or non facilitation of soccer.

It's  to do with the Senior County Final being fixed for a Sunday, plain and simple, and the county not wanting other county finals to clash with the senior final, i.e the marquee football game all year is the senior football final, so the playing of other finals as a double header is OK, but not splitting them, as it will distract from both finals. This is common throughout the land

BTW, the county has been doing this for years, I have played in two Int finals, one on a Sunday, one on a Saturday. We just got on with it. The Sat one was fixed because the senior final was on the next day. No problem for us, players got time off work, made the normal sacrifices and got on with the game.

Every player has the right to play whatever sport they want to, and the county has whatever right to fix their games how the want to.

The players playing soccer have options, so the decision of what game to play is absolutely theirs to make. Maybe you should be talking to them, and not pointing fingers elsewhere.

BTW, this argument sums up why Antrim football is at the bottom of the rung in Antrim. This would not be tolerated in other counties.

For example Baker, playing for Coleraine, got it written into his contract that if a game clashed with his club, he would play for the club.

wouldn't be tolerated in other counties? did you see the link i posted from the hoganstand about so many counties moving their county finals so that it didn't clash with rugby which was on tv.... this was for supporters not even players, so that kind of blows that out of the water.

People keep saying they have options when in reality they don't, they would be hung out to dry if they played a club gaa game before a soccer game they are contracted to play.

At no stage did i say it should be played at the same time as the senior final, you're right it is the biggest game in the club county calendar but the junior final could have been played before it. My point is that t senior and intermediate level clubs tend to have bigger squads and could deal with the problem better but at junior level it is more difficult.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 13, 2015, 01:39:50 PM
Some d*ng being talked here.  If you look up the Antrim Schedule of fixtures set out at the beginning of the year Intermediate and Junior Finals both set for this Saturday so stop crying about players availability, they should have known about this possibility before the season even began and before the last season of soccer even ended.  Some folk are always playing hard done by - to start moving things for given reasons would result in games never been played.  Wise up folk - any player could get injured in the run up or not be available for a host of reasons so get on with it and stop gurning about it.  I also think some players become better when they are missing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 13, 2015, 01:39:50 PM
Some d*ng being talked here.  If you look up the Antrim Schedule of fixtures set out at the beginning of the year Intermediate and Junior Finals both set for this Saturday so stop crying about players availability, they should have known about this possibility before the season even began and before the last season of soccer even ended.  Some folk are always playing hard done by - to start moving things for given reasons would result in games never been played.  Wise up folk - any player could get injured in the run up or not be available for a host of reasons so get on with it and stop gurning about it.  I also think some players become better when they are missing.

They have always been set for this saturday, have they? i could be wrong but i thought in the master fixtures it was set as the week of as opposed to an actual day but as i say I'm happy to be corrected. Nobody is gurning, I'm not a Davitts or Glenravel man so i couldn't care less who they have available I'm just saying that i would prefer to have the best players available on the pitch. FWIW i cant go to the JFC and IFC finals on saturday due to other commitments but will be at the senior game on sunday, if either of the 2 sat games had of been on before it i certainly would have been there to watch it too. But i suppose at the end of the day nothing is gonna get resolved in an internet forum i just feel sometimes players get punished for wanting to juggle different sports, it should be encouraged not punished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 13, 2015, 12:26:30 PM
County board should wise up and play this game on Sunday. Common sense is not something they excel at.

Agreed, but they won't change it now, shouldn't have been fixed for sat in the 1st place. they won't change it so doesn't look like they are facilitating soccer, which is unfortunate.

This has nothing to do with the facilitation or non facilitation of soccer.

It's  to do with the Senior County Final being fixed for a Sunday, plain and simple, and the county not wanting other county finals to clash with the senior final, i.e the marquee football game all year is the senior football final, so the playing of other finals as a double header is OK, but not splitting them, as it will distract from both finals. This is common throughout the land

BTW, the county has been doing this for years, I have played in two Int finals, one on a Sunday, one on a Saturday. We just got on with it. The Sat one was fixed because the senior final was on the next day. No problem for us, players got time off work, made the normal sacrifices and got on with the game.

Every player has the right to play whatever sport they want to, and the county has whatever right to fix their games how the want to.

The players playing soccer have options, so the decision of what game to play is absolutely theirs to make. Maybe you should be talking to them, and not pointing fingers elsewhere.

BTW, this argument sums up why Antrim football is at the bottom of the rung in Antrim. This would not be tolerated in other counties.

For example Baker, playing for Coleraine, got it written into his contract that if a game clashed with his club, he would play for the club.

wouldn't be tolerated in other counties? did you see the link i posted from the hoganstand about so many counties moving their county finals so that it didn't clash with rugby which was on tv.... this was for supporters not even players, so that kind of blows that out of the water.

People keep saying they have options when in reality they don't, they would be hung out to dry if they played a club gaa game before a soccer game they are contracted to play.

At no stage did i say it should be played at the same time as the senior final, you're right it is the biggest game in the club county calendar but the junior final could have been played before it. My point is that t senior and intermediate level clubs tend to have bigger squads and could deal with the problem better but at junior level it is more difficult.

I'm sorry, some counties moved the timing of their senior final to suit the rugby, not move the dates at a late stage.

Playing two county finals on the same date as the senior, would take away from both finals as most gaels like going to the senior final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 13, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
I have a copy of the '2015 Antrim Club Fixture Schedule (Final)' on my desktop and it clearly states Sat 17th Oct 'Jun and Int F.Finals' Sun 18th Oct 'Antrim Sen F.Ball Fin'.  I saved this document to my desktop on 25/02/2015 at 08:35.  Hopefully this put some of the arguing to bed.  Whether it makes for a better spectacle to play it another day I think is irrelevant when you are talking about scheduling way back in February.  It is a long time for teams and players to get the chance to arrange to show their true ambitions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 13, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 13, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
I have a copy of the '2015 Antrim Club Fixture Schedule (Final)' on my desktop and it clearly states Sat 17th Oct 'Jun and Int F.Finals' Sun 18th Oct 'Antrim Sen F.Ball Fin'.  I saved this document to my desktop on 25/02/2015 at 08:35.  Hopefully this put some of the arguing to bed.  Whether it makes for a better spectacle to play it another day I think is irrelevant when you are talking about scheduling way back in February.  It is a long time for teams and players to get the chance to arrange to show their true ambitions.

Fair enough, as i said i stood to be corrected i'll hold my hands up. Yes i understand where you're coming from saying they could have got something sorted but in reality could they? would crusaders really let their no1 goalkeeper go and play a jfc final? if they lost the supporters would hang him out to dry, and rightly so they pay his wages. I just think sometimes a step back and look at things logically would do the job. But I'm sure both clubs will get on with it and hopefully its a good game, good luck to all teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on October 13, 2015, 10:48:02 PM
At the end of the day, its up to the player in Question. Sets a dangerous precedent if the county start accommodating other sports, Im sure the IFA doesnt hold the GAA in the same esteem as what you are suggesting to do the Mac. Anyway Davitts got a more favourable semi final date than say Ardoyne who also had Irish league players, its just how the cookie crumbles unless Glenravel have influence on the CCC  ::).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
I am pretty sure Glenravel have at least one Irish League Player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 14, 2015, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 14, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
I am pretty sure Glenravel have at least one Irish League Player.

Yip I'm pretty sure they do, its not fair on them either, i just think more should be done to help the clubs, id rather see the best players playing from both sides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
Very quiet on senior final!   cargin by 5 with a Lamhs man sent off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Just back from the intermediate final. Big gulf in football know how between ourselves and Glenavy and it turned out to be a bit of a stroll in the park once they got a five point lead. Had to laugh at the ironic refereeing decision to yellow card our keeper for time wasting when we were 8 points down with 7 or 8 minutes to play. Well done Glenavy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2015, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Just back from the intermediate final. Big gulf in football know how between ourselves and Glenavy and it turned out to be a bit of a stroll in the park once they got a five point lead. Had to laugh at the ironic refereeing decision to yellow card our keeper for time wasting when we were 8 points down with 7 or 8 minutes to play. Well done Glenavy


Glenavys 2 corner forwards were super today. Really impressed by them. Fair play to Dunloy, I'm sure if you asked Dominic Dillon in March if he would of been happy with promotion & a county final he would of bit your hand off. As for the junior, well done Davitts, I'm sure nobody in Glenravel is questioning that result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 18, 2015, 11:15:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 17, 2015, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Just back from the intermediate final. Big gulf in football know how between ourselves and Glenavy and it turned out to be a bit of a stroll in the park once they got a five point lead. Had to laugh at the ironic refereeing decision to yellow card our keeper for time wasting when we were 8 points down with 7 or 8 minutes to play. Well done Glenavy


Glenavys 2 corner forwards were super today. Really impressed by them. Fair play to Dunloy, I'm sure if you asked Dominic Dillon in March if he would of been happy with promotion & a county final he would of bit your hand off. As for the junior, well done Davitts, I'm sure nobody in Glenravel is questioning that result.

Couldn't make the games yesterday so cant comment but congratulations to both teams, i think Davitts are back to where they should be, Intermediate football and hopefully they can kick on, there isn't a massive gulf in class between top of div 3 and bottom of div 2.
Equally i hope Glenavy can make an impression in senior football next year. They are a great club who are making strides to get back to Div1, Just goes to show what can be done with a bit of commitment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Congratulations to new county champions Erins  Own.  Especially to the half a dozen who have toiled valiantly in St Galls wake for the best part of a decade.

As a spectacle it was poor enough though. The game lacked cohesion and it was hard to pick out many star performers. Overall it was the team ethic that got Cargin comfortably enough over the line. That's the JB speciality. No one bigger than him or his team. It mightnt be pretty but where's the cup tonight?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2015, 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 18, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Congratulations to new county champions Erins  Own.  Especially to the half a dozen who have toiled valiantly in St Galls wake for the best part of a decade.

As a spectacle it was poor enough though. The game lacked cohesion and it was hard to pick out many star performers. Overall it was the team ethic that got Cargin comfortably enough over the line. That's the JB speciality. No one bigger than him or his team. It mightnt be pretty but where's the cup tonight?

What was the score??  Its about getting over the line.. Hopefully Cargin an JB make a better impression in Ulster than we have of late.. Well done Cargin, hard luck Lamhs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2015, 09:10:53 PM
Eight or nine points in it MR. Cargin scored two penalties and missed a third. Not a pretty spectacle with a lot of macho stuff, sledging, and Sean Laverty  getting more than a few mouthfuls which went well over the top and wouldn't be acceptable in any other sport.

Cargin awesome against St Galls, decent agsinst Creggan and middling enough today by the standards needed to compete in Ulster. It will take another performance like the St Galls one to have a chance against Crossmaglen. Hopefully they can do us proud but do need to find that next level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2015, 09:20:48 PM
Incidentally I noticed Colie Donnelly at the game. Heard he has allowed his name to go forward to contest the position for county chairman. A great gael who played both codes with distinction. Colie definitely would offer a breath of fresh air that is so urgently needed.

Fantastic to finally see someone of this calibre stepping up to the plate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
May not have been all that pretty Bannside, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and as you say the cup is resting on the banks of the bann tonite and who would question cargin are the best in Antrim bar none, and although many questioned resolve in previous finals they have always dusted down, picked themselves up and came back for more, and character can never be in question within the ranks of green and white....................the JB factor is evident, and the last time he brought a Cargin team to meet the men from Cross they were distinctly unlucky to lose in the semis after a good win over Carmen, with a late Jim Mc Conville goal seeing the Orchard men over the line with only a couple to spare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2015, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
May not have been all that pretty Bannside, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and as you say the cup is resting on the banks of the bann tonite and who would question cargin are the best in Antrim bar none, and although many questioned resolve in previous finals they have always dusted down, picked themselves up and came back for more, and character can never be in question within the ranks of green and white....................the JB factor is evident, and the last time he brought a Cargin team to meet the men from Cross they were distinctly unlucky to lose in the semis after a good win over Carmen, with a late Jim Mc Conville goal seeing the Orchard men over the line with only a couple to spare.

This year 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on October 18, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
Sean Laverty was brutal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 19, 2015, 12:31:59 PM
bloodybreakball - you dont post for over a year then you give us that bit of wisdom! not very constructive!!

cargin deserved champions this year & i wish them well in ulster! they face a daunting task of travelling to armagh to play cross, who had observers in attendance yesterday.

bannside what calibre has collie donnelly got?! at the end of the day, him and his croonies can promise the world and more, but fact is we havent any money to do things!! `

I hear Geroid is part of snr backroom team, with magee as strength coach. im sure there may be a few new faces and old ones back in the frame also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2015, 01:20:37 PM
Antrim affairs is such a total mess at the minute that it is a daunting task for whoever takes on the job of sorting this mess out.

No money left for Dunsilly. Club Aontroma at loggerheads with county officials to ensure they spend their funds on player development where it was intended, and not some big black hole.

We don't have one single person on the committee that's overseeing the Casement debacle. That's just for starters. Rock bottom is an understatement.

For those reasons we need fresh blood. Someone that can unite the county by being straight and not engaging in doublespeak pretending everything is ok when it's blatantly not. We need a good man with no baggage or history to install confidence and bring others into the fold.

We don't need more "experts". We need a person who can entice a dozen others into the fold...by being able to put their trust and faith in a new administration.

The old brigade have failed us. Time for new starts and new faces and that starts at the top. Collie a great example of the type of person who can do this/get this done. That's my opinion anyway. I'm sure others will have theirs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 19, 2015, 02:11:13 PM
Only made it to Creggan Saturday.  Junior final looked like a junior final with a lack of real quality on both sides.  Some chat here last week about players missing but ultimately it was tactics that won the day with Davitts disciplined with the blanket and Glenravel totally devoid of ideas as a result though their shooting did not help their cause.

Intermediate final big let down also.  I thought Dunloy would have the big game mentality but ultimately easily overcome by a Glenavy team that certainly looked a division above them.

The positive of the day was the weather and the conditions, unfortunately the excitement could not match.

Now on to the U21 Championship - can anyone see past the like of St Johns or Creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 19, 2015, 03:53:44 PM
Ultimately as I suppose we already knew it but Cargin won the championship the night they beat St Galls, yesterday they didn't appear to get out of 2nd or 3rd gear. The big difference in the last few years that I can see is their discipline in the tackle I though they were superb defensively yesterday and did enough up front to win. Getting 3 penalties and scoring 2 obviously did no harm as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 19, 2015, 05:28:03 PM
"bannside what calibre has collie donnelly got?! at the end of the day, him and his croonies can promise the world and more, but fact is we havent any money to do things!!"

Cronies? Good to see you giving a positive welcome to those who are prepared to step up and try and change things. Good man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2015, 05:31:18 PM
+1. "Can promise the world and more".

That's exactly what he won't do if his challenge is successful. Much more likely to say "This is a big mess lads and we need a massive effort just to start turning this shit around".

We are done with false dawns, false promises, and false expectations. What we need is brutal honesty about what is needed to properly promote Gaelic games and culture in County Antrim. And the provision of a spirit of inclusiveness that encourages people of genuine ability to work for the Saffron cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on October 19, 2015, 11:04:15 PM
Yes, its not very constructive. We should be able to expect a high standard of refereeing in a county final. Maybe, some others at it thought he was poor or flustered at times. But, huge credit for putting himself out there to do it. Lamh dhearg were patchy, probably a good point that cargin weren't in or needed to get to top gear. Well done to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2015, 11:29:54 PM
No money Brendan..................Jeez we had a lotta people parting with their hard earned dough in attendance at the three senior championship games at Ahoghill this year.......................Cargin v Gall's 4/5000 @ £5 each = £20 to £25k.....Cargin v Creggan 3/4000 @£8 =24 to £32k.....Cargin v L Dearg 4/5000 @£10 =£40 TO £50k.
Now my maths aint good but does that not come to appx £90 to £110k..................and then we have the hurling as well as the Intermediate and Junior c'ships...................now we have no money you say.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2015, 11:33:15 PM
I think the ticket receipts will show ........... oh wait  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2015, 11:42:21 PM
Aye right so Cargin were awarded three penalties yesterday....................so hands up all those honest discerning souls who have fair eyesight and without hint of bias who would suggest those were not justifiable awards.
Sure i thought the first missed by Tomas Mc Cann was for an 'off the ground incident'......and perhaps big Mc Kiernan tripped over his own feet for the other two awards and was not hauled to the ground by Micko, and J Finnucane respectively for those which were converted by Mick Mc Cann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2015, 07:04:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2015, 11:29:54 PM
No money Brendan..................Jeez we had a lotta people parting with their hard earned dough in attendance at the three senior championship games at Ahoghill this year.......................Cargin v Gall's 4/5000 @ £5 each = £20 to £25k.....Cargin v Creggan 3/4000 @£8 =24 to £32k.....Cargin v L Dearg 4/5000 @£10 =£40 TO £50k.
Now my maths aint good but does that not come to appx £90 to £110k..................and then we have the hurling as well as the Intermediate and Junior c'ships...................now we have no money you say.


Don't forget the Hurling championships. C'Dall V Loughiel & C'Dall V B'Castle. At least 4000/5000 at each game at £8/£10 per head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 07:48:21 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2015, 11:42:21 PM
Aye right so Cargin were awarded three penalties yesterday....................so hands up all those honest discerning souls who have fair eyesight and without hint of bias who would suggest those were not justifiable awards.
Sure i thought the first missed by Tomas Mc Cann was for an 'off the ground incident'......and perhaps big Mc Kiernan tripped over his own feet for the other two awards and was not hauled to the ground by Micko, and J Finnucane respectively for those which were converted by Mick Mc Cann.

So they were gifted the win with 3 penalties!! Did lamhs win any frees on the 21 metre lines??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 20, 2015, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2015, 11:29:54 PM
No money Brendan..................Jeez we had a lotta people parting with their hard earned dough in attendance at the three senior championship games at Ahoghill this year.......................Cargin v Gall's 4/5000 @ £5 each = £20 to £25k.....Cargin v Creggan 3/4000 @£8 =24 to £32k.....Cargin v L Dearg 4/5000 @£10 =£40 TO £50k.
Now my maths aint good but does that not come to appx £90 to £110k..................and then we have the hurling as well as the Intermediate and Junior c'ships...................now we have no money you say.

No, I didn't say that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2015, 08:25:23 AM
You misread that completely CB lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 20, 2015, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2015, 11:29:54 PM
No money Brendan..................Jeez we had a lotta people parting with their hard earned dough in attendance at the three senior championship games at Ahoghill this year.......................Cargin v Gall's 4/5000 @ £5 each = £20 to £25k.....Cargin v Creggan 3/4000 @£8 =24 to £32k.....Cargin v L Dearg 4/5000 @£10 =£40 TO £50k.
Now my maths aint good but does that not come to appx £90 to £110k..................and then we have the hurling as well as the Intermediate and Junior c'ships...................now we have no money you say.

I think you will find Brendan is quoting Culchie11, lay off the hard stuff you should be preparing for a crack at Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
Ah, I must really be a semi literate Bumpkin and excuse my ignorance but did Brendan not sa "we haven't any money to do things"?
What are those mysterious things?
And Gizzy I am afraid I have been sober for a long time and despite ur observations my head is quite clear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 20, 2015, 09:53:13 AM
okay dokey! that escalated quickly there now!

i simply asked what calibre did he have! why would our clubs vote for him over another, i still havent got an answer. i am interested to hear as i know v little about him other than what club he is from!! plain and simple. where is the mud slinging in that. lighten up a bit for f**k sake.

i called his comrades, pals, chums, whatever you want top call them cronies as again, i dont even know who they are, only one i have heard is reilly from gort. heard they will be doing alot of pr shortly. anyone want to elaborate?!

but im sure they will all come in and solve every ill in antrim gaa, like casement, dunsilly, club aontroma, dev squads, casement social club, etc.

as for the money situation, i have said in the past and will say it again, we need some experienced ppl to sit down and map out a way forward. its embarassing to see how our youngsters get treated compared to other counties. those gate receipts wont last long, but we need to sort our budgets out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2015, 11:15:36 AM
Brendan didn't say that CB. He was quoting Culchie 11 that's why there is inverted comas around it. Anyway it's just a misunderstanding so let's move on.

You're right too Culchie, development squads seem to be doing well recently and winning their fair share, but we need a proactive football board/committee who will have as a sub committee a group who will fundraise for specific targets....Dev squads being an obvious one. Proper financial support for preparartion of county minor u21 and senior squads another. (Football budget currently just over half of the hurling budget incidentally).
In conjunction with a revitalised Club Aontroma who are presently battering their head off a brick wall under present county leadership who want to plunder their kitty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 20, 2015, 02:20:23 PM
surely all we want is a bit of professionalism.  Gone are the days of a county committee with one bag of jerseys and selling a few raffle tickets.  there are big sums of money and budgets to prepare (besides the footballing requirements.) To leave it in the hands of rank amateurs with no prerequisite skills is just madness.  If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always got.  Time for a committee and chairman who actually has the CV for the job and not just another  'Yes' man who has been there a while and sticks his hand up the highest.  We are the most amateur looking county in Ireland for a reason.  Time for real change, the embarrassments of Dunsilly and Casement need to be addressed asap and perhaps funding given to one club for a concrete standing area prior to next May
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
+1 Welcome Spike.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2015, 05:33:49 PM
Antrim Post front page all about a huge Antrim & Newtownabbey Borough Council new pitch development at Moneyglass GAC. Talk of £3 million expenditure. Great news if true. Anyone from MG confirm. (HOOF where are you).

We (Casements) just beginning the ground works for our own second pitch development - should finish up similar to Ahoghill when finished.

Glenravel, Dunloy, Creggan, All Saints all got their grounds recently refurbished. There's going to be some great grounds in the SW in the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
Think we led the way in development BS, and possibly one reason why were have current standing with training facilities up there with the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 06:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
Think we led the way in development BS, and possibly one reason why were have current standing with training facilities up there with the best.

Well its finally paid off CB 😉.... We've the worst facilities in Antrim for a dual senior club... Hasn't really hurt us or stopped us attracting kids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 20, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 06:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
Think we led the way in development BS, and possibly one reason why were have current standing with training facilities up there with the best.

Well its finally paid off CB 😉.... We've the worst facilities in Antrim for a dual senior club... Hasn't really hurt us or stopped us attracting kids

In fairness CB, I wouldn't put Cargin's long term success down to the facilities, you have always had consistent and committed quality coaches, which as an outsider, would rate quite highly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 20, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 06:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 06:14:30 PM
Think we led the way in development BS, and possibly one reason why were have current standing with training facilities up there with the best.

Well its finally paid off CB 😉.... We've the worst facilities in Antrim for a dual senior club... Hasn't really hurt us or stopped us attracting kids

In fairness CB, I wouldn't put Cargin's long term success down to the facilities, you have always had consistent and committed quality coaches, which as an outsider, would rate quite highly

Long term success?  6 championships? It depends what you think long term success is I suppose.. Rossa st Johns would be what you'd call long term success though not lately 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 10:36:47 PM
aye right MR2..........You do attract a lotta kids, but ur source is one of the most densely populated areas in Western Europe whilst Cargin, like our parish rivals from Moneyglass, and Creggan are relying on a much more limited supply base......... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2015, 10:36:47 PM
aye right MR2..........You do attract a lotta kids, but ur source is one of the most densely populated areas in Western Europe whilst Cargin, like our parish rivals from Moneyglass, and Creggan are relying on a much more limited supply base......... :)

And Davitts have a wider base than us... Your point? On the Falls road alone you have 5/6 clubs further up the road you've 10 more clubs!! Add in all the other factors of the big smoke and that net gets smaller and smaller... I'd rather have a parish club than a city club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on October 20, 2015, 11:41:28 PM
number of kids recruited by a Club is not the issue, it's their sporting talent develoipment that makes the difference and that's where Saint Galls will be found short over the next number of years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 07:56:56 AM
Tell me MR2......why do you think that Cargin are the only country club to have won a senior football championship in the past 60 years or so?
Serious question. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 08:33:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 07:56:56 AM
Tell me MR2......why do you think that Cargin are the only country club to have won a senior football championship in the past 60 years or so?
Serious question. ???

Because they only play one sport and can concentrate on that? Bit like the Loughgiels and Cushendalls of this world.. next question
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 08:41:05 AM
Quote from: curious on October 20, 2015, 11:41:28 PM
number of kids recruited by a Club is not the issue, it's their sporting talent develoipment that makes the difference and that's where Saint Galls will be found short over the next number of years

We don't recruit them, they are attracted to the club, past players and relations, I'd say it would be impossible for any of our juvenile teams to not be heavily populated with relations to past players... as for the coaching and development we are doing alright... that great team we had for over 13 odd years was down to a coaching strategy that worked out really well... doesn't always work out like that... but that will happen again... these things come in cycles, most clubs get them, whether they get them for as long as that team did is another story...

We can't complain though, I think most clubs would be happy with that haul
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.

Is it because Belfast clubs produce better footballers?

Do Cargin have good coaches? and if so why have they won at least 2 (out of 6) championships with an outsider? like I have said. they have a wider parish than the rest, they are close to the Derry club teams and pre season challenge games would be of a higher tempo and better pre for start of new year, probably that's why they have won so many leagues ?

I'm bored I could go on all day.. tell me in your view why Cargin are the only club in over 60 years outside of the big smoke to win a championship at senior level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 10:45:28 AM
Depends what facilities are available to the club as some are a nice to have rather than a necessity. Danger is that some people have the green eyed monster and think they need to get themselves into debt to keep up. if the talent isn't there then 4 training pitches isn't going to win championship. Dual clubs obviously have to schedule training sessions around the codes (but that can be overcomes), same goes with underage and camogie teams. Perhaps its a long term strategy the club itself has to set.  Moneyglass have set up a hurling team so if that goes as expected, they will need space. Cargin may have led the way in the SW but Creggan has a great set up, particularly if they can hold onto their old pitch.  Perhaps if Moneyglass or Portglenone are building new pitches they could get extra funding for a stand to accommodate a county championship match - casement looks like its years away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.

Is it because Belfast clubs produce better footballers?

Do Cargin have good coaches? and if so why have they won at least 2 (out of 6) championships with an outsider? like I have said. they have a wider parish than the rest, they are close to the Derry club teams and pre season challenge games would be of a higher tempo and better pre for start of new year, probably that's why they have won so many leagues ?

I'm bored I could go on all day.. tell me in your view why Cargin are the only club in over 60 years outside of the big smoke to win a championship at senior level?

Cargin were in the doldrums for a long time but historically they wisely built upon a great minor team in the late sixties and a superb u21 side in the eighties. To be simplistic about it, Cargin have had one code to concentrate on, they benefit from the south derry schools competitive football system (but not exclusively), they have very committed football orientated families and have cultivated a competitive ethos over many years. They don't benefit from the transfer mentality that seems to prevail in Belfast and their players tend to stay involved for a decade or so. But in my mind, the single biggest difference in Cargin vs the other SW clubs is that, despite the numbers to choose from, almost all the underage boys in Cargin will turn out for the club. The percentage compared to other clubs such a portglenone, aldergrove, aghagallon etc is much higher. That gives an emotional buy-in to the club that I don't think exists in Belfast to the same extent nor in some of the other SW clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
Depends what you define as long term success obviously. St Galls have been excellent for 13 years but weren't in the discussion for the 10 before. Cargin have been there or thereabouts for 30 years now and while they haven't won as many as they should, they have always been the there or thereabouts. St Galls have had the longest cycle but St Pauls (mid to late 90's) and the Johnnies (on and off in the 80's & 90's) were there previously. Cargin have been through all of them and came back for more.  As CJ alluded to, every successful team needs a competitior and I don't think anyone could doubt Cargin have pushed St Galls along.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2015, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.

Is it because Belfast clubs produce better footballers?

Do Cargin have good coaches? and if so why have they won at least 2 (out of 6) championships with an outsider? like I have said. they have a wider parish than the rest, they are close to the Derry club teams and pre season challenge games would be of a higher tempo and better pre for start of new year, probably that's why they have won so many leagues ?

I'm bored I could go on all day.. tell me in your view why Cargin are the only club in over 60 years outside of the big smoke to win a championship at senior level?

Cargin were in the doldrums for a long time but historically they wisely built upon a great minor team in the late sixties and a superb u21 side in the eighties. To be simplistic about it, Cargin have had one code to concentrate on, they benefit from the south derry schools competitive football system (but not exclusively), they have very committed football orientated families and have cultivated a competitive ethos over many years. They don't benefit from the transfer mentality that seems to prevail in Belfast and their players tend to stay involved for a decade or so. But in my mind, the single biggest difference in Cargin vs the other SW clubs is that, despite the numbers to choose from, almost all the underage boys in Cargin will turn out for the club. The percentage compared to other clubs such a portglenone, aldergrove, aghagallon etc is much higher. That gives an emotional buy-in to the club that I don't think exists in Belfast to the same extent nor in some of the other SW clubs.

Apart from M Magill of course Spike  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:26:07 AM
of course, but i'd say there cant be many clubs who haven't had one transferee, and certainly I don't think you can accuse that Cargin team on Sunday of being a collection of blow-ins.  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2015, 11:29:39 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:26:07 AM
of course, but i'd say there cant be many clubs who haven't had one transferee, and certainly I don't think you can accuse that Cargin team on Sunday of being a collection of blow-ins.  :D

No offence, but I think you are slightly over egging the pudding here with the love in. Fair enough Cargin have been around a long time and have been successful over an extended period but that does not have any bearing on the emotional attachment of others to their own clubs be they Belfast teams or SW teams.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:43:32 AM
I certainly am not saying that Cargin holds the patent on the emotional connection with a club. But what I am saying is that the majority of young lads in Cargin are down at the club playing from an early age and evolve that natural connection as all their friends, relatives, classmates are doing the same. The majority of people they know have some connection or involvement with the club. That simply does not happen in Belfast but is actively fostered in other places like Loughgeil, Cushendall, Ballycastle, Dunloy and Creggan.  These clubs don't win every year, but the buy in from the community is immense. I have no doubt that Cargin are also influenced by the club mentality of clubs in south derry where the likes of Ballinderry, Loup, Newbridge, Bellaghy and Lavey bring the idea of club culture to a whole new level again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 11:46:05 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.

Is it because Belfast clubs produce better footballers?

Do Cargin have good coaches? and if so why have they won at least 2 (out of 6) championships with an outsider? like I have said. they have a wider parish than the rest, they are close to the Derry club teams and pre season challenge games would be of a higher tempo and better pre for start of new year, probably that's why they have won so many leagues ?

I'm bored I could go on all day.. tell me in your view why Cargin are the only club in over 60 years outside of the big smoke to win a championship at senior level?

Cargin were in the doldrums for a long time but historically they wisely built upon a great minor team in the late sixties and a superb u21 side in the eighties. To be simplistic about it, Cargin have had one code to concentrate on, they benefit from the south derry schools competitive football system (but not exclusively), they have very committed football orientated families and have cultivated a competitive ethos over many years. They don't benefit from the transfer mentality that seems to prevail in Belfast and their players tend to stay involved for a decade or so. But in my mind, the single biggest difference in Cargin vs the other SW clubs is that, despite the numbers to choose from, almost all the underage boys in Cargin will turn out for the club. The percentage compared to other clubs such a portglenone, aldergrove, aghagallon etc is much higher. That gives an emotional buy-in to the club that I don't think exists in Belfast to the same extent nor in some of the other SW clubs.

I could throw up many a team photo from my club which will have numerous sets of brothers playing together, managed and coached by their parents also... they generally all stay but we do have a few that after minor, head off and do something else.... but the tie is not lost there and they generally come back when their cubs are of an age (under 6!! WTF) and the cycle continues .... we do have a name of bringing in some outsiders coming to the club, we live in Belfast and have been successful, that happens, I've neither encouraged it or frowned upon it either..

Parish ties or family ties it's all the same for me.... in most cities in Ireland you'll not get a parish team as people move out of the area they grew up in.. generating strong friendships between teammates at an early age will also stand to a club... I've had the best of times playing alongside my brother, cousins and also managed a couple of games with my son..  Most clubmen will have the similar story
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 21, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
Antrim Post front page all about a huge Antrim & Newtownabbey Borough Council new pitch development at Moneyglass GAC. Talk of £3 million expenditure. Great news if true. Anyone from MG confirm. (HOOF where are you).

We (Casements) just beginning the ground works for our own second pitch development - should finish up similar to Ahoghill when finished.

Glenravel, Dunloy, Creggan, All Saints all got their grounds recently refurbished. There's going to be some great grounds in the SW in the next few years.

Bannside the Moneyglass Project is a Vision for the future which hopes to be completed in phases but eventuallt the intention would be to have superb facilities that match or surpass what is currently around the county.

Alot of people working very hard to obtain it a Dream we are determined to make a reality
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Maybe I'm misreading here...

What has Newtownabbey borough council got to do with moneyglass?? Can't be the catchment area for them with the super councils can it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 21, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on October 21, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
Antrim Post front page all about a huge Antrim & Newtownabbey Borough Council new pitch development at Moneyglass GAC. Talk of £3 million expenditure. Great news if true. Anyone from MG confirm. (HOOF where are you).

We (Casements) just beginning the ground works for our own second pitch development - should finish up similar to Ahoghill when finished.

Glenravel, Dunloy, Creggan, All Saints all got their grounds recently refurbished. There's going to be some great grounds in the SW in the next few years.

Bannside the Moneyglass Project is a Vision for the future which hopes to be completed in phases but eventuallt the intention would be to have superb facilities that match or surpass what is currently around the county.

Alot of people working very hard to obtain it a Dream we are determined to make a reality

God, how come sooooooo many of our clubs are able to develop such good facilities, yet the Dunsily project is in limbo???

BTW that's both City and Country (St John's indoor facility, Sarsfields, St Brigit's, to name a few in the city)

If the county was smart, they should have partnered up with a club in a central location (Creggan, Cargin, Moneyglass etc for football and Tir na nOg, Ballymena, etc for hurling, or developed regional centers of excellence one SW, Belfast and NA), and use the combination for the county teams. Working in conjunction with the clubs, the development would have been completed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 02:25:49 PM
fully agree but the clue is in your comment 'If the county was smart'      At the very very least they should be getting dunsilly to an appropriate stage seeing as its been started. 

if they're not going to do anything with casement then pick the most central, easily accessible pitch in antrim and put money into concrete steps/stands that can have temporary seating facilities installed - low cost and are not permanent. no pitch is not ideal but surely a strategy can be found

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on October 21, 2015, 02:45:45 PM
So u mean like satsfields with better changing facilities and parking lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
yeah sarsfields, if you spend a few million on access, buy half of rossas & st pauls fields for space for stands.  don't think those couple of rows are going to hold 10,000 people!  :-\  Needs a ground with space up at least one of the long sides. who has the room and can cater for the traffic??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on October 21, 2015, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 21, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Maybe I'm misreading here...

What has Newtownabbey borough council got to do with moneyglass?? Can't be the catchment area for them with the super councils can it??

It's now Antrim & Newtownabbey Council, which I think takes in Moneyglass, Toome etc??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Right - that's a big catchment area!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on October 21, 2015, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.

Is it because Belfast clubs produce better footballers?

Do Cargin have good coaches? and if so why have they won at least 2 (out of 6) championships with an outsider? like I have said. they have a wider parish than the rest, they are close to the Derry club teams and pre season challenge games would be of a higher tempo and better pre for start of new year, probably that's why they have won so many leagues ?

I'm bored I could go on all day.. tell me in your view why Cargin are the only club in over 60 years outside of the big smoke to win a championship at senior level?

Cargin were in the doldrums for a long time but historically they wisely built upon a great minor team in the late sixties and a superb u21 side in the eighties. To be simplistic about it, Cargin have had one code to concentrate on, they benefit from the south derry schools competitive football system (but not exclusively), they have very committed football orientated families and have cultivated a competitive ethos over many years. They don't benefit from the transfer mentality that seems to prevail in Belfast and their players tend to stay involved for a decade or so. But in my mind, the single biggest difference in Cargin vs the other SW clubs is that, despite the numbers to choose from, almost all the underage boys in Cargin will turn out for the club. The percentage compared to other clubs such a portglenone, aldergrove, aghagallon etc is much higher. That gives an emotional buy-in to the club that I don't think exists in Belfast to the same extent nor in some of the other SW clubs.


Have cargin not struggled to field at certain age groups in recent seasons? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
The biggest problem facing many clubs is the huge decline on playing numbers. At juvenile level amalgamations are quite rare, but they will increasingly become a necessity in the next few years.

At our club there is a spell coming where it will be totally impossible to field teams. I think in the primary school there are six P6 boys and seven P7's. Of this small group not even all those are expected to play and maybe not all aligned to our parish.

Ballinderry Shamrocks could only field thirteen under 16 players this year. And football is a religion there. The fact is families are much smaller now, and many clubs will simply have to amalgamate in order to field teams. Either that or start small sided games 11 a side or something like that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2015, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
The biggest problem facing many clubs is the huge decline on playing numbers.

Huge?? Is that a headline or a fact bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 22, 2015, 07:24:37 AM
Put it this way Skull. I have spoken to a lot of people involved in clubs who talk of diminishing numbers to the extent that they won't be able to field teams at certain age groups at juvenile level. A trawl through primary school numbers highlights this even further.

Even in some traditionally strong heartlands of Derry football it's exactly the same, especially in middle to small rural parishes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 22, 2015, 11:57:51 AM
decline on available players could lead to a different type of amalgamated championship, such as the one in Kerry.  Without a town to feed it or a very large parish collection area, rural clubs could struggle. But if a few talented kids are being produced every year then the problem may not be as bad.

Cargin had a couple of years of lean numbers, lads around the 18 year old age, but have recovered and are fine now at all the other underage groups. 

Bannside, that does seem like very low numbers available. Are Ahoghill numbers holding or how will it affect the Sean Stinsons?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2015, 12:14:48 PM
Would clubs like Ahoghill not go in cycles?

If you look at their senior team they are dominated by the likes of Grahams and O'Connells. There will be a period of time in the next 10ish years where there will be a gap and then the next generation of them will come through.

Rural clubs tend to be backboned by families so when the current players go there's usually a gap till the next generation of the family. It's not specific to Ahoghill. Portglenone now seem to be backboned by a certainly family too BS;-) I think you have a larger population to pick from mind but the same names tend to crop up for you too.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 22, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2015, 12:14:48 PM
Would clubs like Ahoghill not go in cycles?

If you look at their senior team they are dominated by the likes of Grahams and O'Connells. There will be a period of time in the next 10ish years where there will be a gap and then the next generation of them will come through.

Rural clubs tend to be backboned by families so when the current players go there's usually a gap till the next generation of the family. It's not specific to Ahoghill. Portglenone now seem to be backboned by a certainly family too BS;-) I think you have a larger population to pick from mind but the same names tend to crop up for you too.

That is the challenge for these types of clubs is to attract kids from non traditional families into the club and keep them involved. Not even talking our unionist brethren but just families who wouldnt normally have been involved with the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 22, 2015, 02:54:13 PM
if numbers keep dropping then it certainly has to be an option to attract the non-traditionalists?

Has any club had any particular joy with that?  there are anecdotal rumours around that approaches are usually rebuffed by the primary schools but Ballymena seem to have had some success with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2015, 10:34:42 PM
Cargin give away league title......who wants it..........Gall's or L Dearg..................wanna bet MR2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2015, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 22, 2015, 10:34:42 PM
Cargin give away league title......who wants it..........Gall's or L Dearg..................wanna bet MR2?

Well if we win it we are throwing our medals in the Blackie river!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2015, 10:48:10 PM
U are indeed the man MR2................. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 09:13:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 22, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2015, 12:14:48 PM
Would clubs like Ahoghill not go in cycles?

If you look at their senior team they are dominated by the likes of Grahams and O'Connells. There will be a period of time in the next 10ish years where there will be a gap and then the next generation of them will come through.

Rural clubs tend to be backboned by families so when the current players go there's usually a gap till the next generation of the family. It's not specific to Ahoghill. Portglenone now seem to be backboned by a certainly family too BS;-) I think you have a larger population to pick from mind but the same names tend to crop up for you too.

That is the challenge for these types of clubs is to attract kids from non traditional families into the club and keep them involved. Not even talking our unionist brethren but just families who wouldnt normally have been involved with the club.

Thats the big one there. Clubs need to be attracting families who wouldnt usually attend gaa matches and get their kids interested. The bigger challenge is also to get the parents involved in helping how the clubs run as well.

Our underage structure now has kids there on a sat morning for the U6/8 etc hurling and football on a sat morning whos parents i know well. Most never were into the GAA when i was younger but now have their young ones there each week without fail.

Getting the kids regular wee tournaments throughout the year and also competing in the indoor leagues is a must if you want to keep them hooked on the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 10:47:30 AM
Poor Oisin wanted to bring Cargin to Crossmaglen.......................but those spoilsports in the Ulster Council CCC said NO........sad ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2015, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 23, 2015, 09:13:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 22, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2015, 12:14:48 PM
Would clubs like Ahoghill not go in cycles?

If you look at their senior team they are dominated by the likes of Grahams and O'Connells. There will be a period of time in the next 10ish years where there will be a gap and then the next generation of them will come through.

Rural clubs tend to be backboned by families so when the current players go there's usually a gap till the next generation of the family. It's not specific to Ahoghill. Portglenone now seem to be backboned by a certainly family too BS;-) I think you have a larger population to pick from mind but the same names tend to crop up for you too.

That is the challenge for these types of clubs is to attract kids from non traditional families into the club and keep them involved. Not even talking our unionist brethren but just families who wouldnt normally have been involved with the club.

Thats the big one there. Clubs need to be attracting families who wouldnt usually attend gaa matches and get their kids interested. The bigger challenge is also to get the parents involved in helping how the clubs run as well.

Our underage structure now has kids there on a sat morning for the U6/8 etc hurling and football on a sat morning whos parents i know well. Most never were into the GAA when i was younger but now have their young ones there each week without fail.

Getting the kids regular wee tournaments throughout the year and also competing in the indoor leagues is a must if you want to keep them hooked on the game.

A dedicated youth structure is a must these days for success or the chance of success (if not relying on transfers at senior level). Fantastic to see so many kids down playing the games at the pitch and helps the club/community spirit also. Step 1 is getting the people who weren't that involved previously down with their kids. the 2nd (and much bigger challenge) is getting our Unionist brethren from the parish interested in it.  As was see in Moneynick this week, there is still much resentment to the GAA in SW Antrim - big challenge to change that and I would say whoever does will reap the rewards for their club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them

Pull this nonsense?  We have played a lot of first round games in our home pitch as it is a designated County ground.  When the Athletic Grounds was closed down for years our ground was used by Armagh repeatedly for county games and all the county finals and we actually played St Galls there in 2010 and took their Ulster and AI title off them.   But at the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and won't be the difference in us winning but I've no doubt any club would try the same 'nonsense' if it will give them any advantage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Unionist people will never embrace the GAA so long as their elected representatives continue to spout hate against it. They have spent years demonising the organisation and those that either play it or help it.

We dont have to change anything we do, they have to accept that is what this organisation is about. The promotion of our game, our identity and culture. We cant just decide to drop the flag, the anthem, lose the Irish language to appease another person. They want us to change the club names, the trophy names, the club colours. Do they make that same gesture? of course not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2015, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them

Pull this nonsense?  We have played a lot of first round games in our home pitch as it is a designated County ground.  When the Athletic Grounds was closed down for years our ground was used by Armagh repeatedly for county games and all the county finals and we actually played St Galls there in 2010 and took their Ulster and AI title off them.   But at the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and won't be the difference in us winning but I've no doubt any club would try the same 'nonsense' if it will give them any advantage.

Sure every county has other 'county' grounds. it doesn't mean that you get to pick the one that suits best, other than your main one. I'm sure the Armagh board, after all the dough they've spent on the athletic ground, are appreciative of Cross' stance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2015, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 23, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Unionist people will never embrace the GAA so long as their elected representatives continue to spout hate against it. They have spent years demonising the organisation and those that either play it or help it.

We dont have to change anything we do, they have to accept that is what this organisation is about. The promotion of our game, our identity and culture. We cant just decide to drop the flag, the anthem, lose the Irish language to appease another person. They want us to change the club names, the trophy names, the club colours. Do they make that same gesture? of course not.

Just right - we shouldn't have to change but we can make gestures to soften some of their stances or incorrect labelling of our games.  Perhaps its just a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them

Pull this nonsense?  We have played a lot of first round games in our home pitch as it is a designated County ground.  When the Athletic Grounds was closed down for years our ground was used by Armagh repeatedly for county games and all the county finals and we actually played St Galls there in 2010 and took their Ulster and AI title off them.   But at the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and won't be the difference in us winning but I've no doubt any club would try the same 'nonsense' if it will give them any advantage.
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Sure Cargin are already resigned to their fate and will travel just to fulfill the fixrure and some are even contemplating pulling out of the panel. JB is likely to resign soon I hear.
Sure Oisin was at. Ahoghill last week with his management team in tow and he must have noticed all our failings.
Cross are certainly never seen to be playin at 'mind games', and aren't we just gullible country bumpkins (read to day's Irish News).
The
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them

Pull this nonsense?  We have played a lot of first round games in our home pitch as it is a designated County ground.  When the Athletic Grounds was closed down for years our ground was used by Armagh repeatedly for county games and all the county finals and we actually played St Galls there in 2010 and took their Ulster and AI title off them.   But at the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and won't be the difference in us winning but I've no doubt any club would try the same 'nonsense' if it will give them any advantage.
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Sure Cargin are already resigned to their fate and will travel just to fulfill the fixrure and some are even contemplating pulling out of the panel. JB is likely to resign soon I hear.
Sure Oisin was at. Ahoghill last week with his management team in tow and he must have noticed all our failings.
Cross are certainly never seen to be playin at 'mind games', and aren't we just gullible country bumpkins (read to day's Irish News).
The

I get the general gist of that but I'm not sure what you're on about referring to today's Irish News? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 23, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
Unionist people will never embrace the GAA so long as their elected representatives continue to spout hate against it. They have spent years demonising the organisation and those that either play it or help it.

We dont have to change anything we do, they have to accept that is what this organisation is about. The promotion of our game, our identity and culture. We cant just decide to drop the flag, the anthem, lose the Irish language to appease another person. They want us to change the club names, the trophy names, the club colours. Do they make that same gesture? of course not.

Just right - we shouldn't have to change but we can make gestures to soften some of their stances or incorrect labelling of our games.  Perhaps its just a pipe dream.

I can see it happen but not for a long time until the current unionist reps go the way of the dinosaurs. They are the ones who wont accept the GAA for what it is.

Also doesnt help when people like Jarleth Burns are on quoting nonsense about losing the flag and anthem to make it more appealing to the unionist people. Maybe he forgets the hate or scorn to which they pour on the irish language of which hes a big supporter of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 01:49:38 PM
If u have a look at todays I News bcrossbar, we have Oisin Mc telling us all that Jamie Clarke is back but because he 'cannot commit' his services won't be required......really? He then goes on to tell us all that Aaron Kernan is fully fit and playing 'the football of his life'....really?....We are then reliably informed by the fully truthful Oisin that Armagh football is bad and he expects to be fully tested by Cargin ..really?.................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 01:57:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 01:49:38 PM
If u have a look at todays I News bcrossbar, we have Oisin Mc telling us all that Jamie Clarke is back but because he 'cannot commit' his services won't be required......really? He then goes on to tell us all that Aaron Kernan is fully fit and playing 'the football of his life'....really?....We are then reliably informed by the fully truthful Oisin that Armagh football is bad and he expects to be fully tested by Cargin ..really?.................

Yes really!!!  Jamie is home to sort out stuff for his visa so he can go back out. AK is just back from injury and is playing well. And really Armagh football is dreadful and Cargin will be a big step up. What's the issue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on October 23, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them

Pull this nonsense?  We have played a lot of first round games in our home pitch as it is a designated County ground.  When the Athletic Grounds was closed down for years our ground was used by Armagh repeatedly for county games and all the county finals and we actually played St Galls there in 2010 and took their Ulster and AI title off them.   But at the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and won't be the difference in us winning but I've no doubt any club would try the same 'nonsense' if it will give them any advantage.
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Sure Cargin are already resigned to their fate and will travel just to fulfill the fixrure and some are even contemplating pulling out of the panel. JB is likely to resign soon I hear.
Sure Oisin was at. Ahoghill last week with his management team in tow and he must have noticed all our failings.
Cross are certainly never seen to be playin at 'mind games', and aren't we just gullible country bumpkins (read to day's Irish News).
The

I get the general gist of that but I'm not sure what you're on about referring to today's Irish News?

Hopefully the delightful Cross supporters refrain from throwing stones at John Brennan on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
Bookies aren't really expecting anything other than a handy cross victory judging by the odds, similar to what they offered for the Armagh Harps match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on October 23, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2015, 10:58:40 AM
Rumour has it Crossmaglen pull this nonsense every year they have a home draw.  not sure what benefit getting turned down does for them.  serious test for Cargin. If they play as they against st galls they've a good chance but only played in spells in the other 2 matches. maybe its a good thing having that gear change available to them

Pull this nonsense?  We have played a lot of first round games in our home pitch as it is a designated County ground.  When the Athletic Grounds was closed down for years our ground was used by Armagh repeatedly for county games and all the county finals and we actually played St Galls there in 2010 and took their Ulster and AI title off them.   But at the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and won't be the difference in us winning but I've no doubt any club would try the same 'nonsense' if it will give them any advantage.
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Sure Cargin are already resigned to their fate and will travel just to fulfill the fixrure and some are even contemplating pulling out of the panel. JB is likely to resign soon I hear.
Sure Oisin was at. Ahoghill last week with his management team in tow and he must have noticed all our failings.
Cross are certainly never seen to be playin at 'mind games', and aren't we just gullible country bumpkins (read to day's Irish News).
The

I get the general gist of that but I'm not sure what you're on about referring to today's Irish News?

Hopefully the delightful Cross supporters refrain from throwing stones at John Brennan on Sunday.

Hopefully the delightful John Brennan won't attack the ref and tried to force his way into the Cross dressing room after the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 23, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
Bookies aren't really expecting anything other than a handy cross victory judging by the odds, similar to what they offered for the Armagh Harps match

Antrim are deemed the weakest county in ulster with new champions as well against cross who have years and years of experience in this competition. Cross have to be strong favourites. Be a massive upset if they don't win. That said I hope they don't but it would be a massive upset.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2015, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 23, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
Bookies aren't really expecting anything other than a handy cross victory judging by the odds, similar to what they offered for the Armagh Harps match

Antrim are deemed the weakest county in ulster with new champions as well against cross who have years and years of experience in this competition. Cross have to be strong favourites. Be a massive upset if they don't win. That said I hope they don't but it would be a massive upset.
True but everyone knows cross practically get a bye in the Armagh final. Like surely Cargin are a better outfit than Armagh Harps, and probably even have a few survivors from 2006?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 23, 2015, 03:29:34 PM
Point of Note
Antrim are the weakest at county level, but not at club, and we shouldn't mix the two up

It has been a long time since our club teams take a hammering like the Fermanagh champs did last week

St Gall's represented Antrim well, so did Cargin before them.
Last time St John's were in it, they took out Arboe
When St Paul's were in it, they more than held their own.

Antrim have good footballers, just not enough good footballers totally committed to the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2015, 05:25:12 PM
I'd have thought the same kickham any team that stuffs St galls are no slouches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 23, 2015, 05:25:12 PM
I'd have thought the same kickham any team that stuffs St galls are no slouches

We're past it 😉... Cargin beat us hand, Cross have beaten us handy so it should be close  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2015, 09:30:39 PM
Cargin are a good side but hey I am a trifle biased I fear.
We did come up against the mighty Crossmaglen way back in 1999 in the semis after an opening round win over Carrickmore when the canny JB was at the helm, and the Armagh they were a trifle lucky to finish with two points to spare. Jim Mc Conville did get a goal very late on in controversial circumstances and the rest is history as they went on to win the All Ireland.
Perhaps Mr Brennan has unfinished business, but in any event you can be sure he will have our boys chomping at the bit, and raring to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2015, 10:51:57 AM
Quote from: The Worker on October 21, 2015, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Well MR2.............Moneyglass, Casement's, Aldergrove, and Glenavy, just football......and Erin's Own did win their first county title in Hurling....consider the question again please.

Is it because Belfast clubs produce better footballers?

Do Cargin have good coaches? and if so why have they won at least 2 (out of 6) championships with an outsider? like I have said. they have a wider parish than the rest, they are close to the Derry club teams and pre season challenge games would be of a higher tempo and better pre for start of new year, probably that's why they have won so many leagues ?

I'm bored I could go on all day.. tell me in your view why Cargin are the only club in over 60 years outside of the big smoke to win a championship at senior level?

Cargin were in the doldrums for a long time but historically they wisely built upon a great minor team in the late sixties and a superb u21 side in the eighties. To be simplistic about it, Cargin have had one code to concentrate on, they benefit from the south derry schools competitive football system (but not exclusively), they have very committed football orientated families and have cultivated a competitive ethos over many years. They don't benefit from the transfer mentality that seems to prevail in Belfast and their players tend to stay involved for a decade or so. But in my mind, the single biggest difference in Cargin vs the other SW clubs is that, despite the numbers to choose from, almost all the underage boys in Cargin will turn out for the club. The percentage compared to other clubs such a portglenone, aldergrove, aghagallon etc is much higher. That gives an emotional buy-in to the club that I don't think exists in Belfast to the same extent nor in some of the other SW clubs.


Have cargin not struggled to field at certain age groups in recent seasons?

Failed to field on numerous occasions over the past few years. Butcher was saying he couldn't get some young boys out of the house to play minor football!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
All trying to be Messi or Rambo on the X Box or Playstation. This is the GAA's biggest competitor, and it's not going to go away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Under 21 championship starting today. Can't see past St Johns again this year. Maybe Rossa or St Endas will have claims.

Watching St Endas with interest. They have had a great crop of juveniles in recent years many making county squads etc. Will be interesting to see if/how they kick on.

Saw Ruairi Scott playing for DIT during the week. Shaping up well and looking every inch a county senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2015, 04:50:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 24, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Under 21 championship starting today. Can't see past St Johns again this year. Maybe Rossa or St Endas will have claims.

Watching St Endas with interest. They have had a great crop of juveniles in recent years many making county squads etc. Will be interesting to see if/how they kick on.

Saw Ruairi Scott playing for DIT during the week. Shaping up well and looking every inch a county senior.

Rossa tanked by Aghagallon today. They only had 15 men!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
Tragic news coming from Glenavy tonight on the death of their Senior Football Manager Francie Doone. After the success last weekend to this, shows how tough life can be.

To his family, team & the Glenavy club I pass on my condolences.

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2015, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
Tragic news coming from Glenavy tonight on the death of their Senior Football Manager Francie Doone. After the success last weekend to this, shows how tough life can be.

To his family, team & the Glenavy club I pass on my condolences.

RIP

Tragic... RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 26, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
Tragic news coming from Glenavy tonight on the death of their Senior Football Manager Francie Doone. After the success last weekend to this, shows how tough life can be.

To his family, team & the Glenavy club I pass on my condolences.

RIP

+1

Very Sad News

Had played against Francie many times, tough and uncompromising but always fair.

A gentleman into the bargain as well.

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 26, 2015, 01:20:29 PM
True Gentleman and Gael. Francey will be a huge loss around Glenavy club and to those who knew him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 26, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
Everything has been said on Francie Doone......a real gentleman, and he will be sadly missed particularly by his extended family and those who frequent Chapel Hill.

May his gentle soul rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 26, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
A big loss to the whole area and the GAA. I've honestly never heard a bad word said about Franice. The last man I would have thought this would happen to as he was as fit as a fiddle and strong as an ox. RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on October 29, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
Well, what do you think of the Irish News antrim club all-star selection?


1. COLM O'REILLY (CARGIN)
O'Reilly was beaten just twice in the championship. He couldn't do much about Gareth Galwey's flick to the net for Lámh Dhearg's goal in the final and, in the semi-final, he had initially saved the Creggan penalty before David McGuckin put away the rebound. As is required of a modern-day 'keeper, his kick-outs were consistent and intelligent throughout.



2. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN (LÁMH DHEARG)
Nolan is one of the most consistent performers in the Hannahstown shirt and is a superb reader of the game. In the quarter-final against O'Donovan Rossa, Nolan displayed his man-marking qualities and he did a great job on curbing the influence of Michael Magill in the final. His stand-out performance, however, was against Portglenone in the quarter-final when he gave an exhibition of defending over the hour.



3. JAMES LAVERTY (CARGIN)
The Cargin defence were the meanest in the championship, conceding an average of nine points per game over their three matches. This was due in no small part to the leadership in the full back line from Laverty. He does the simple things well, is a tenacious tackler and always gives 100 per cent. His decision-making is also first class and he rarely takes the wrong option when moving the ball out of defence.



4. KEVIN O'BOYLE (CARGIN)
What more can be said about 'Kobo'? The former Antrim captain is one of the best defenders in Ulster and, no matter what the occasion or conditions, always looks assured and confident on the ball. He's one of those players who always seems to be in the right place at the right time and can break forward at pace when the situation demands. Solid throughout the championship.



5. PAUL CLOSE (O'DONOVAN ROSSA)
The O'Donovan Rossa stalwart turned back the clock in his side's two championship games this year. Still with a sharp turn of pace, Close was the dominant figure in the Rossa rearguard against Aldergrove in the quarter-final, setting up a number of scores from the half-back berth. He carried the same form into the semi-final against Lámh Dhearg when Rossa were a kick of the ball away from their first football championship final since 1991.



6. JUSTIN CROZIER (CARGIN)
The championship campaign began for Cargin on a wet and windy Friday night in August against St Gall's, when the 2010 All-Ireland champions were kept to nine points. Crozier's contribution that night was solid if not spectacular in what was a superb team performance. The same dependable qualities were on show against Lámh Dhearg in the final and he also showed he can take a score when the opportunity presents itself, slotting over a superb effort against Creggan in the semi-final from 45 metres out.



7. DECLAN LYNCH (LÁMH DHEARG)
Lynch started games with 5, 8 and 14 on his back, although he just about covered every blade of grass on all the venues he graced in this year's championship. A powerful, versatile player, he looks at his most dangerous driving at opposition defences from deep, but he also has a deft touch in front of the posts when required, as shown in the semi-final when firing to the bottom corner of the Rossa net for what proved to be the crucial score for his side.



8. MICHAEL McCANN (CARGIN)
The most difficult aspect of Michael McCann's inclusion on the Antrim SFC Allstar team is where to place the former county star, but he simply has to be included, such was his influence on the destination of the McNamee Cup. Named at full-forward in the quarter-final, McCann produced a man of the match display, driving forward from midfield. With 15 on his back in the semi-final and 8 in the final, McCann was given pretty much a free reign and relished the role. He dispatched two penalties to the net with aplomb in the final.



9. CONOR MURRAY (LÁMH DHEARG)
Murray has shown on the county stage this year that he can mix it at a higher level, and he was instrumental to Lámh Dhearg's four-game run to the final. He contributed two points in the win over Rossa, but it is for his strong running and, at times, spectacular fielding that he is best known. He is another player with great vision who seldom picks out the wrong pass.



10. MARK DOUGAN (CREGGAN)
With 0-8 to his credit from two games, Creggan's Mark Dougan deserves his place in the 2015 Antrim club Allstar selection. A superb placed-ball kicker, Dougan made light of difficult conditions in the quarter-final to raise seven white flags from all angles from play and frees. He didn't create quite as much space in the semi-final against Cargin, but was always a handful for a number of Cargin markers.



11. TOMÁS McCANN (CARGIN)
The youngest McCann brother gave an exhibition of free-taking in the opening win over St Gall's. In testing conditions, McCann kept the scoreboard ticking over, each score sapping a bit more belief from St Gall's, and he ended the match with a sublime effort from close to 60 metres out. His contribution is much more than that of free-taker, however. He has pace, two good feet and an eye for the posts. Ended the championship with 0-16.



12. COLM FLEMING (O'DONOVAN ROSSA)
Fleming was the go-to man in the Rossa forward line in the quarter-final win over Aldergrove. The 24-year-old's pace and power caused no end of problems for the St James' backs and, running at the defence, he looked dangerous every time he got the ball. He continued in the same vein against Lámh Dhearg and his style of play was no better summed up than by his driving run through the Hannahstown defence in first-half injury-time. However, his shot flashed just past the post.



13. PADDY CUNNINGHAM (LÁMH DHEARG)
The former county star finished the championship with a total of 1-24 from placed calls and play, comfortably the highest scorer. When backs were to the wall against St John's in the preliminary round, Lámh Dhearg needed some inspiration – and it was Cunningham who provided it. Trailing 1-2 to no score after seven minutes, they led by a point at the break, helped by a 1-2 contribution from Cunningham. A man of the match performance in the semi-final saw him slot points over from all angles  and he accounted for 0-5 of his side's 1-5 total in the final.



14. MICHAEL MAGILL (CARGIN)
Picked up an early injury in the final and didn't exert as great an influence on the game as in previous rounds, but Magill always has to be watched by the opposition defence. His effectiveness as a target man cannot be overstated and, as shown against Creggan, he still knows where the back of the net is.



15. CIARÁN CLOSE (CARGIN)
Recovering from injury this year, Close came on as sub in the opening round against St Gall's and was a late call-up to the starting 15 for the final. Manager John Brennan is, no doubt, delighted at the former county captain's return to fitness. Close was superb in the semi-final against Creggan and set the tone for the final when notching the first two points of the game by the fourth minute. He constantly has defenders wondering what he's going to do next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on October 29, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
Well, what do you think of the Irish News antrim club all-star selection?


1. COLM O'REILLY (CARGIN)
O'Reilly was beaten just twice in the championship. He couldn't do much about Gareth Galwey's flick to the net for Lámh Dhearg's goal in the final and, in the semi-final, he had initially saved the Creggan penalty before David McGuckin put away the rebound. As is required of a modern-day 'keeper, his kick-outs were consistent and intelligent throughout.



2. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN (LÁMH DHEARG)
Nolan is one of the most consistent performers in the Hannahstown shirt and is a superb reader of the game. In the quarter-final against O'Donovan Rossa, Nolan displayed his man-marking qualities and he did a great job on curbing the influence of Michael Magill in the final. His stand-out performance, however, was against Portglenone in the quarter-final when he gave an exhibition of defending over the hour.



3. JAMES LAVERTY (CARGIN)
The Cargin defence were the meanest in the championship, conceding an average of nine points per game over their three matches. This was due in no small part to the leadership in the full back line from Laverty. He does the simple things well, is a tenacious tackler and always gives 100 per cent. His decision-making is also first class and he rarely takes the wrong option when moving the ball out of defence.



4. KEVIN O'BOYLE (CARGIN)
What more can be said about 'Kobo'? The former Antrim captain is one of the best defenders in Ulster and, no matter what the occasion or conditions, always looks assured and confident on the ball. He's one of those players who always seems to be in the right place at the right time and can break forward at pace when the situation demands. Solid throughout the championship.



5. PAUL CLOSE (O'DONOVAN ROSSA)
The O'Donovan Rossa stalwart turned back the clock in his side's two championship games this year. Still with a sharp turn of pace, Close was the dominant figure in the Rossa rearguard against Aldergrove in the quarter-final, setting up a number of scores from the half-back berth. He carried the same form into the semi-final against Lámh Dhearg when Rossa were a kick of the ball away from their first football championship final since 1991.



6. JUSTIN CROZIER (CARGIN)
The championship campaign began for Cargin on a wet and windy Friday night in August against St Gall's, when the 2010 All-Ireland champions were kept to nine points. Crozier's contribution that night was solid if not spectacular in what was a superb team performance. The same dependable qualities were on show against Lámh Dhearg in the final and he also showed he can take a score when the opportunity presents itself, slotting over a superb effort against Creggan in the semi-final from 45 metres out.



7. DECLAN LYNCH (LÁMH DHEARG)
Lynch started games with 5, 8 and 14 on his back, although he just about covered every blade of grass on all the venues he graced in this year's championship. A powerful, versatile player, he looks at his most dangerous driving at opposition defences from deep, but he also has a deft touch in front of the posts when required, as shown in the semi-final when firing to the bottom corner of the Rossa net for what proved to be the crucial score for his side.



8. MICHAEL McCANN (CARGIN)
The most difficult aspect of Michael McCann's inclusion on the Antrim SFC Allstar team is where to place the former county star, but he simply has to be included, such was his influence on the destination of the McNamee Cup. Named at full-forward in the quarter-final, McCann produced a man of the match display, driving forward from midfield. With 15 on his back in the semi-final and 8 in the final, McCann was given pretty much a free reign and relished the role. He dispatched two penalties to the net with aplomb in the final.



9. CONOR MURRAY (LÁMH DHEARG)
Murray has shown on the county stage this year that he can mix it at a higher level, and he was instrumental to Lámh Dhearg's four-game run to the final. He contributed two points in the win over Rossa, but it is for his strong running and, at times, spectacular fielding that he is best known. He is another player with great vision who seldom picks out the wrong pass.



10. MARK DOUGAN (CREGGAN)
With 0-8 to his credit from two games, Creggan's Mark Dougan deserves his place in the 2015 Antrim club Allstar selection. A superb placed-ball kicker, Dougan made light of difficult conditions in the quarter-final to raise seven white flags from all angles from play and frees. He didn't create quite as much space in the semi-final against Cargin, but was always a handful for a number of Cargin markers.



11. TOMÁS McCANN (CARGIN)
The youngest McCann brother gave an exhibition of free-taking in the opening win over St Gall's. In testing conditions, McCann kept the scoreboard ticking over, each score sapping a bit more belief from St Gall's, and he ended the match with a sublime effort from close to 60 metres out. His contribution is much more than that of free-taker, however. He has pace, two good feet and an eye for the posts. Ended the championship with 0-16.



12. COLM FLEMING (O'DONOVAN ROSSA)
Fleming was the go-to man in the Rossa forward line in the quarter-final win over Aldergrove. The 24-year-old's pace and power caused no end of problems for the St James' backs and, running at the defence, he looked dangerous every time he got the ball. He continued in the same vein against Lámh Dhearg and his style of play was no better summed up than by his driving run through the Hannahstown defence in first-half injury-time. However, his shot flashed just past the post.



13. PADDY CUNNINGHAM (LÁMH DHEARG)
The former county star finished the championship with a total of 1-24 from placed calls and play, comfortably the highest scorer. When backs were to the wall against St John's in the preliminary round, Lámh Dhearg needed some inspiration – and it was Cunningham who provided it. Trailing 1-2 to no score after seven minutes, they led by a point at the break, helped by a 1-2 contribution from Cunningham. A man of the match performance in the semi-final saw him slot points over from all angles  and he accounted for 0-5 of his side's 1-5 total in the final.



14. MICHAEL MAGILL (CARGIN)
Picked up an early injury in the final and didn't exert as great an influence on the game as in previous rounds, but Magill always has to be watched by the opposition defence. His effectiveness as a target man cannot be overstated and, as shown against Creggan, he still knows where the back of the net is.



15. CIARÁN CLOSE (CARGIN)
Recovering from injury this year, Close came on as sub in the opening round against St Gall's and was a late call-up to the starting 15 for the final. Manager John Brennan is, no doubt, delighted at the former county captain's return to fitness. Close was superb in the semi-final against Creggan and set the tone for the final when notching the first two points of the game by the fourth minute. He constantly has defenders wondering what he's going to do next.

Hard to argue with that quality selection... Irish news must have been at all the games this year. Or just the semi's  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 29, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
Could argue Mr2..........but dont wanna cause argument :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2015, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
Could argue Mr2..........but dont wanna cause argument :)

Brilliant team and if that team played together for Antrim would make an impact
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
having watched Cargin in training all week they certainly do not look like 5/1 no hopers ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
having watched Cargin in training all week they certainly do not look like 5/1 no hopers ???

Paddy power are being very stingy... I'd be looking 10's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
If Gall's had won Antrim wud they be 5/1 MR2 or 10s.?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2015, 09:14:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
If Gall's had won Antrim wud they be 5/1 MR2 or 10s.?

Don't be silly, we've never beaten them so id have maybe seen us at 20's....

Look you can train all you like and beat teams in Antrim, Cross and playing in Ulster is a different cattle of fish... We've great tradition in Ulster having won our first in 82 beaten finalist 84 against that great Burren team and our recent games... I wish you well but I'm going for a glorious defeat... Maybe next year after the Antrim championship will make a better impact
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 06:13:01 PM
Cargin unlucky today, thought the ref rode them although Cross' undoubted class told in the end. Magill was majestic, was very disappointed with Tomas he touched the ball about twice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 06:13:01 PM
Cargin unlucky today, thought the ref rode them although Cross' undoubted class told in the end. Magill was majestic, was very disappointed with Tomas he touched the ball about twice

8 points?

Referee again, ah well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on November 01, 2015, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 06:13:01 PM
Cargin unlucky today, thought the ref rode them although Cross' undoubted class told in the end. Magill was majestic, was very disappointed with Tomas he touched the ball about twice

8 points?

Referee again, ah well

Yeah maybe a few decisions in second half went against them but overall no. It was their own wastefulness in the first half and inability to check the Cross revival before the break that did them. Tomás was woeful. Magill destroyed the Cross full back line in the first half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2015, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on November 01, 2015, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 06:13:01 PM
Cargin unlucky today, thought the ref rode them although Cross' undoubted class told in the end. Magill was majestic, was very disappointed with Tomas he touched the ball about twice

8 points?

Referee again, ah well

Yeah maybe a few decisions in second half went against them but overall no. It was their own wastefulness in the first half and inability to check the Cross revival before the break that did them. Tomás was woeful. Magill destroyed the Cross full back line in the first half.

Here's the thing, the game last 60 plus minutes, as good as Cargin are they wont run up against Cross every other week, they can win games by not playing well...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
Seriously disappointed with Tomas, hope he plays county this year because he has a point to prove. Cargin needed him to stand up today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on November 01, 2015, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
Seriously disappointed with Tomas, hope he plays county this year because he has a point to prove. Cargin needed him to stand up today.
Who will be involved in county set up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Our 'big player' including Kobo, Mick Mc Cann, with Tomas did go awol today and although Mr Mc Quillan was poor he did not beat us. Cross were there for the taking but a litany of unforced errors, and gifting of easy access frees caused the demise.
We were three up with only a couple of minutes to the break when Mick sent into the kepers arms from about thirty yards and the clearance led to a point at the other end which was quickly followed by two more (both gifted) and Mc Conville,and Mc Entee who had both looked far from happy a few minutes earlier looked relieved to go in at the break on terms.
The second half saw a more relaxed Cross, but despite going a man down Cargin came within a whisker of getting a goal in the latter stages when James Laverty drilled just wide of the posts when a goal would have seen only a point in it.
But hey Brennan stays and we will back in 2016 and no retirements planned....looking for number seven.........Wanna bet MR2 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 01, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Our 'big player' including Kobo, Mick Mc Cann, with Tomas did go awol today and although Mr Mc Quillan was poor he did not beat us. Cross were there for the taking but a litany of unforced errors, and gifting of easy access frees caused the demise.
We were three up with only a couple of minutes to the break when Mick sent into the kepers arms from about thirty yards and the clearance led to a point at the other end which was quickly followed by two more (both gifted) and Mc Conville,and Mc Entee who had both looked far from happy a few minutes earlier looked relieved to go in at the break on terms.
The second half saw a more relaxed Cross, but despite going a man down Cargin came within a whisker of getting a goal in the latter stages when James Laverty drilled just wide of the posts when a goal would have seen only a point in it.
But hey Brennan stays and we will back in 2016 and no retirements planned....looking for number seven.........Wanna bet MR2 ?

I said you'd come up pretty short, and 8 points and losing discipline with a man down reflects that... Good effort to be level at half time and making the Cross managers nervous though...we won't be back...rebuilding, yours for a while yet... We'll concentrate on the leagues for a change
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
Read Irish News to morrow Mr2 .......and get a clue as to the discipline thing ......Hannibal Lector  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2015, 09:28:03 PM
And if u really want league medals MR2 sure I am sure I can rustle up a set, or two, or three or maybe more 4 u my friend♥
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 02, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 01, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Our 'big player' including Kobo, Mick Mc Cann, with Tomas did go awol today and although Mr Mc Quillan was poor he did not beat us. Cross were there for the taking but a litany of unforced errors, and gifting of easy access frees caused the demise.
We were three up with only a couple of minutes to the break when Mick sent into the kepers arms from about thirty yards and the clearance led to a point at the other end which was quickly followed by two more (both gifted) and Mc Conville,and Mc Entee who had both looked far from happy a few minutes earlier looked relieved to go in at the break on terms.
The second half saw a more relaxed Cross, but despite going a man down Cargin came within a whisker of getting a goal in the latter stages when James Laverty drilled just wide of the posts when a goal would have seen only a point in it.
But hey Brennan stays and we will back in 2016 and no retirements planned....looking for number seven.........Wanna bet MR2 ?

actually thought Mick McCann had a good game. Kobo started well but seemed to lose a bit of confidence when the game started to stretch. Tomas looked injured to me, same as the end of the lamh dhearg game.  Magill was  superb, close had a great 1st half, crozier and tony very steady.  to me it was the difference in the two benches as when cross struggled in an area they brought on a sub who was an improvement. Cargins subs didn't work and for me actually weakened rather than improved.  Cross made tactical adjustments throughout the game, especially at midfield which was a sign of good in-game management.  Cargin much the better side in the first half but mcquillan gave them a lifeline with some strange calls and a good side like crossmaglen don't need a 2nd invitation.Cross team and supporters were very happy to be level at the short whistle.  took Cargin 10 mins to get over the first goal and once they had composed themselves again and got back into the match the deserved 2nd yellow killed it. 14 men pushing forward got slaughtered on the counter in the last 8 minutes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on November 02, 2015, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 02, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 01, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Our 'big player' including Kobo, Mick Mc Cann, with Tomas did go awol today and although Mr Mc Quillan was poor he did not beat us. Cross were there for the taking but a litany of unforced errors, and gifting of easy access frees caused the demise.
We were three up with only a couple of minutes to the break when Mick sent into the kepers arms from about thirty yards and the clearance led to a point at the other end which was quickly followed by two more (both gifted) and Mc Conville,and Mc Entee who had both looked far from happy a few minutes earlier looked relieved to go in at the break on terms.
The second half saw a more relaxed Cross, but despite going a man down Cargin came within a whisker of getting a goal in the latter stages when James Laverty drilled just wide of the posts when a goal would have seen only a point in it.
But hey Brennan stays and we will back in 2016 and no retirements planned....looking for number seven.........Wanna bet MR2 ?
Michael McCann had a fine first 25 mins but faded when moved to CHF. Margin owners midfield early on and Carron dominated with McCann. Kobo and Tomás very poor. MaGill immense - no one could handle him. Close dangerous too. Thought Cargin didn't hit that full forward line quick enough in the 2nd half. Too slow moving ball forward.
actually thought Mick McCann had a good game. Kobo started well but seemed to lose a bit of confidence when the game started to stretch. Tomas looked injured to me, same as the end of the lamh dhearg game.  Magill was  superb, close had a great 1st half, crozier and tony very steady.  to me it was the difference in the two benches as when cross struggled in an area they brought on a sub who was an improvement. Cargins subs didn't work and for me actually weakened rather than improved.  Cross made tactical adjustments throughout the game, especially at midfield which was a sign of good in-game management.  Cargin much the better side in the first half but mcquillan gave them a lifeline with some strange calls and a good side like crossmaglen don't need a 2nd invitation.Cross team and supporters were very happy to be level at the short whistle.  took Cargin 10 mins to get over the first goal and once they had composed themselves again and got back into the match the deserved 2nd yellow killed it. 14 men pushing forward got slaughtered on the counter in the last 8 minutes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Erinlong on November 02, 2015, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
Seriously disappointed with Tomas, hope he plays county this year because he has a point to prove. Cargin needed him to stand up today.

Not everyday Cargin will play a team like cross that are experienced and very clued into how to move through ulster.They had enough of the ball to win the game but made silly mistakes which in Antrim they wouldn't have been punished for.
As for Kobo,Mick mccann and Tomas mccann
Kobo just had one of them games that he looked tired compared to his normal energetic self
I thought Mick mccann played well
Tomas is injured he was playing with a ripped quad,and has been for 4-5 weeks.which would have been nice going in to play cross with him flying fit like the st galls game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: Erinlong on November 02, 2015, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on November 01, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
Seriously disappointed with Tomas, hope he plays county this year because he has a point to prove. Cargin needed him to stand up today.

Not everyday Cargin will play a team like cross that are experienced and very clued into how to move through ulster.They had enough of the ball to win the game but made silly mistakes which in Antrim they wouldn't have been punished for.
As for Kobo,Mick mccann and Tomas mccann
Kobo just had one of them games that he looked tired compared to his normal energetic self
I thought Mick mccann played well
Tomas is injured he was playing with a ripped quad,and has been for 4-5 weeks.which would have been nice going in to play cross with him flying fit like the st galls game

Maybe next year the draw will be kinder for Cargin,  build up a lot of steam before meetin a team like Cross or Kilcoo in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Erinlong on November 02, 2015, 08:09:05 PM
Iv a feeling st galls will pick themselves up for next year and be pushing it.so I wouldn't be as confident as Cargin getting another chance at it as easy as saying the draw could be kinder next year. And if we do hopefully have everyone fit.
The experience is the only positive Cargin can take out of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: Erinlong on November 02, 2015, 08:09:05 PM
Iv a feeling st galls will pick themselves up for next year and be pushing it.so I wouldn't be as confident as Cargin getting another chance at it as easy as saying the draw could be kinder next year. And if we do hopefully have everyone fit.
The experience is the only positive Cargin can take out of it.

Always an experience and the more you play in it the more you learn from it, Cross are the standard bearers in Ulster and have been since winning their revival in Armagh.... there have been some teams that stayed as long as we did and got nothing to show for it  ... Enniskillen Gaels being one of them Cavan Gaels had a long stretch in Ulster too but Cross, Ballinderry and ourselves managed a few finals and wins ... but you definitely need a bitta luck along the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 03, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Does anyone feel Cargin or St Galls could make an impact in Ulster again in the next few years?  Both sides have the team to hold their own but do they have the squad/bench to turn to when things aren't working or key players are injured?  Physically Cargin were a match for Cross which is encouraging for all Antrim teams to know they can go toe to toe with Cross.  Its the options available to cross when things were going wrong that enabled them to get back into it.  Can Cargin or St Galls realistically compete at the top table? Neither side can depend on being lucky enough to have full, fit and healthy squads for an entire Antrim championship and Ulster campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2015, 10:00:46 AM
Realistically I think Cargin need to start dominating antrim and get a year or two in ulster before they are prepared. St Galls have that behind them wheras cargin don't but if they become dominant who knows. I don't think the standard of the antrim championship prepares you well enough for ulster. I would say the same of fermanagh and probably even donegal (and maybe tyrone too oddly).

When your championship isn't of as high a standard then it tends to only be experienced teams who dominate their own championship who do well in ulster.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 10:14:49 AM
This is where it becomes bad for a county team when one team dominates its championship,  it has an adverse effect on the county panel...

Cargin I'd imagine will win a couple more championships with that current team, but have they players coming through that will improve it? Their bench (as has been said already) was pretty poor and keeping an injured player on (if he was injured) tells me that there is no depth to Cargin ...

We are re building and we may win the odd championship but to dominate again like we did I don't think that will happen unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 10:22:09 AM
It is more than 5 yrs now since St Galls have been a force in Ulster and they are on the decline in Antrim.  St Johns, if they can bring their youth on through will be the next dominant force.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 10:22:09 AM
It is more than 5 yrs now since St Galls have been a force in Ulster and they are on the decline in Antrim.  St Johns, if they can bring their youth on through will be the next dominant force.

They have been strong in juvenile for years and years... when was their last Championship?  They are slowly but surely losing their "tradition" in my view.....

Like I've said countless times we couldn't stay at the top of the tree every year and would eventually drop along with the also rans... but its been a blast and hopefully with a bit of hard work and luck we can generate another decent set of players

Rossa me be the closest to trouble teams as their juveniles the last few years have been impressive, St Endas need to be at the top table regularly to get the benefits of their good juvenile teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 10:52:48 AM
Look I am taking nothing away from St Galls at all they have had an absolutely outstanding run and things do come in cycles.  You mention Rossa - they recently got torn a new as*e in the U21s by Aghagallon - a competition that St Johns will win with ease, possibly with no team getting within 10 points of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 10:52:48 AM
Look I am taking nothing away from St Galls at all they have had an absolutely outstanding run and things do come in cycles.  You mention Rossa - they recently got torn a new as*e in the U21s by Aghagallon - a competition that St Johns will win with ease, possibly with no team getting within 10 points of them.

MR2 was pointing to the fact that St JOhns have been producing quality juvenile teams for more than a decade now maybe even more, but they do not have the ability to keep them and translate through to senior level. For whatever reason they have wasted a decade of talent with not even a close senior championship run to show for it.

Call it tradition bad management or whatever it is, if any other club had lost the amount of talent that St Johns have conspired too there would be serious questions being asked of them as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2015, 10:59:19 AM
St Johns as a club seem to favour hurling these days too. Maybe that's just a view I get from the outside looking in... St Galls always seemed to put the emphasis on the football moreso than hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 10:52:48 AM
Look I am taking nothing away from St Galls at all they have had an absolutely outstanding run and things do come in cycles.  You mention Rossa - they recently got torn a new as*e in the U21s by Aghagallon - a competition that St Johns will win with ease, possibly with no team getting within 10 points of them.

That's great and I hope they do win well and go on to bigger and better things .... just the last 15 years as told me different.. as for Rossa they have put up a better show at Senior level than the Johnnies this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on November 03, 2015, 11:36:37 AM
MR2, your analysis is usually spot on, but I would have a different opinion regarding the strength of St John's underage teams over the last decade or even two. When the minor football C'ship was won in 2011, it was the first win in 21 years. That team has stayed the distance, winning U-21 football on 2 occasions; it'll take a good team to beat them this year. That squad have been dominant throughout their juvenile years. St John's minors prior to this have been average at best for 20 years and this has been reflected in an inability to compete seriously at senior level. It's careless and easy to say that they have been unable to retain and develop players anymore that any other club. Frankly, the raw materials have not been there. The talent is there currently, but of course it won't translate into success at senior level without a huge effort...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: jdyok on November 03, 2015, 11:36:37 AM
MR2, your analysis is usually spot on, but I would have a different opinion regarding the strength of St John's underage teams over the last decade or even two. When the minor football C'ship was won in 2011, it was the first win in 21 years. That team has stayed the distance, winning U-21 football on 2 occasions; it'll take a good team to beat them this year. That squad have been dominant throughout their juvenile years. St John's minors prior to this have been average at best for 20 years and this has been reflected in an inability to compete seriously at senior level. It's careless and easy to say that they have been unable to retain and develop players anymore that any other club. Frankly, the raw materials have not been there. The talent is there currently, but of course it won't translate into success at senior level without a huge effort...

Traditionally St Johns have always had strong juvenile teams and whether winning them or not they usually competed  well enough... keeping the players is the toughest test and while as you say this teams is a strong unit they have to bring that to senior and have a manager game enough to let them all go up together... that may or may not happen we'll see

If you go back to the when we started to do well again at senior it was based on winning 4/5 minor in a row as well as 4/5 under 21 in a row... it didn't happen straight away ... we had a couple of decent juvenile teams which all came together at senior.... Cargin don't win too many minor titles but every year they bring out a decent senior team that challenges every year.... that's not luck but effort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
If you go back to the when we started to do well again at senior it was based on winning 4/5 minor in a row as well as 4/5 under 21 in a row... it didn't happen straight away ... we had a couple of decent juvenile teams which all came together at senior

And acquiring a few boys from elsewhere..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 02:02:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
If you go back to the when we started to do well again at senior it was based on winning 4/5 minor in a row as well as 4/5 under 21 in a row... it didn't happen straight away ... we had a couple of decent juvenile teams which all came together at senior

And acquiring a few boys from elsewhere..........
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I think you could look at the majority of clubs in Belfast with that view... our juveniles all played for the club for many years before reaching senior and the core of that teams would have won countless titles regardless, but hey that's for another argument
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 03, 2015, 02:28:01 PM
:)  Just bantering as that has been thrown by detractors for many year though I know plenty of the guys who were successful and know they were reared in the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2015, 11:44:52 PM
Five Antrim players featured tonight in QUB v UUJ clash at the Dub. Not including Niall Mc Keever who allegedly broke his hand at a training session on Monday! All did well enough. Match finished a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2015, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2015, 11:44:52 PM
Five Antrim players featured tonight in QUB v UUJ clash at the Dub. Not including Niall Mc Keever who allegedly broke his hand at a training session on Monday! All did well enough. Match finished a draw.
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Who were they BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 05, 2015, 12:14:01 AM
Queens had Niall Delargy (5) Ryan Murray (10) and Dermot Mc Aleese (12).

UUJ had Ricky Johnston (3) and Marty Johnston. Captain Niall Mc Keever wasn't available.

All held their own with Ryan Murray up there as the best player on the pitch. Class act.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 05, 2015, 12:18:47 AM
UUJ freshers A beat Queens freshers A earlier in the day. For UUJ Peter Mc Parland Davitts had a good game as did Ronan Delargy Portglenone. Ben Reid Lamh Dhearg came on a sub for Queens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
Poor showing from St Galls today against Aghagallon. Don't seem to hve much coming through at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
Poor showing from St Galls today against Aghagallon. Don't seem to hve much coming through at all.

We're finished..... The scrap he's for us..... ;). We haven't been competitive at juvenile for a while... We watched all these other clubs dominant and when they get to senior what happens??  We'll move to mid ranging team for a while till the next batch comes through.... I hope
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2015, 09:00:34 PM
Hear Carl Mc Cabe has stood down MR2.....................a really nice guy, great manager, and most definitely a hard act to follow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2015, 09:00:34 PM
Hear Carl Mc Cabe has stood down MR2.....................a really nice guy, great manager, and most definitely a hard act to follow.

That's the way it goes.... I wish him the best a genuine guy who had thrown himself into Naomhgall... His young lad is a cracking footballer too... Hopefully Carl doesn't take too much time out and starts looking after other teams within the club...

As you know losing hoid managers that have won things JC being one is hard to replace ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2015, 09:28:23 PM
Yep was indeed missed for a while but he is back coaching the youngsters.................managed the minors this year as well as the 21s....... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 09, 2015, 12:34:00 PM
wouldn't panic just yet MR2. you'll be closer to the talent in st galls youth than I would be but usually the key is making sure the quality players on those teams are ready for senior football, even if its a only couple from each team.  the country is full of great former underage teams who do nothing at senior level.  Creggan had some cracking minor and u21 teams 7-8 years ago and look no further on. Glenavy and Aghgallon always seemed to do well at u12/u14/u16 and haven't cracked seniors yet. Glen Maghera's triple minor team doesn't seem to have radically changed their position, neither has Kilreas. Some are just big at that age group, some haven't the focus and mental strength to deal with senior football when things go against them. some stall as a great senior player is in their position so they cant get a game and spend too long in the reserves/on the bench learning bad habits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2015, 06:53:21 PM
St John's have a standout under 21 team who should give the Creggan (Ulster) tournament a real crack this year.

But the Johnnies have had great underage teams too over the years and didn't kick on. There's something about this group that makes me think most of them might hang around and push on for a senior title in the next few years. A lot of them are second or third generation and I think that makes a big difference.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2015, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 09, 2015, 06:53:21 PM
St John's have a standout under 21 team who should give the Creggan (Ulster) tournament a real crack this year.

But the Johnnies have had great underage teams too over the years and didn't kick on. There's something about this group that makes me think most of them might hang around and push on for a senior title in the next few years. A lot of them are second or third generation and I think that makes a big difference.

They are a great team but in my day the Johnnies had a similar team in Wilson, Mclarnon and the rest of a great team.. think they won one senior title
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 10, 2015, 10:54:49 AM
History is littered with great minor teams who never made the breakthrough at senior. I think Stinsons won 4 minor titles on the trot in the mid 90's with players such as Madden, Logan, McCarry, Convery, Doherty et al and they didn't win any senior titles albeit they did come up against the best club side ever to come out of Antrim but they did give sterling service to their club and ensured they were competitive at the top table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2015, 12:17:53 PM
Most of those mentioned started senior football in division three and finished up in three senior county finals. As you say only for St Galls.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 10, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
Lets be fair as that Stinsons team was a great minor team but the portglenone side never looked like winning a championship. they caught cargin on the hop one year and that was as good as it got. They never looked in the same league as st galls in the those finals. maybe won one o'cahon cup and no leagues at all?

Now if they could have kept the ahoghill players from that team alongside them then you never know. Rasharkin had an equally as good minor team around that time and they failed to do anything either in fact I think themselves and portglenone battled it out at the top of division 2 for a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2015, 03:19:43 PM
Aye you need 20 really decent grade players to have any chance of winning a championship. Portglenone struggled to get that number but from where some of these guys started to where they finished tells it's own tale.

I recall being at a national league match in Tralee and there were 5 Portglenone players playing. Big Marty got a very bad shoulder injury in a tackle with Seamus Moynahan and it never got completely better.

If our next batch provide as many good memories we will be happy. As long as one year they deliver the big one. We like what we see but still a work in progress.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 11, 2015, 10:58:45 AM
I would actually have been of the opinion that Portglenone appeared in 3 finals by virtue of being in and around positions 3-6 within the county during that period but getting some favourable draws.  Very decent side for me but not great.

Back to U21's - any point in even playing the competition - maybe better to hand the cup over now and let the rest of the teams finish up for the year.  Still stick by my prediction that no team will get within 10 points of St Johns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 11, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
st johns are a class act
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 16, 2015, 09:36:34 AM
st marys Aghagallon still the surprise package in the u21 championship. Pg1 on the way to the B final, a final is a final it will do!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
Do not think Aghagallon are that much of a surprise - certainly would expect them to be in the final now - what they will do against St Johns is another matter (no disrespect to St Enda's).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2015, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 17, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
Do not think Aghagallon are that much of a surprise - certainly would expect them to be in the final now - what they will do against St Johns is another matter (no disrespect to St Enda's).

Do Aghagallon get a bye into the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2015, 11:00:27 AM
No they play Glenravel but I think they will be much too strong for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
hectic- I think st marys have got a few players in from other clubs- Ive heard they have a couple of cracking underage players one going by the name od Cealion 'Sid' Kearny ... Glenravel have a very strong spine and have a lot of u21s on the senior panel to provide experience
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
fatheadpg1 no players from other clubs playing for Aghagallon that I am aware of - maybe want to check your sources.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 18, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
Yeah looks like Aghagallon could be too strong for Glenravel in the semi-final although Glenravel obviously are on a high after winning a very tight match in the quarters. It's just a pity that the two best teams in the competition meet in the other semi-final. Two teams who haven't really been tested to date and which would have made a great final but that's the luck of the draw. Have to fancy the Johnnies though as they are an older more mature U-21 side than St. Enda's side for whom the majority of the side are either minor or U-19. I think both these teams met last year in the semi-final as well with the Johnnies winning convincingly in the end by 9/10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 19, 2015, 03:53:06 PM
Peileadoir I would take Aghagallon to beat St.Endas, possibly comfortably but as you say the draw does not guarantee top teams in final. Last year we had arguably the two strongest teams meet in the grading round when Creggan gave St.Johns their toughest exaination of the competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 19, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
fatheadpg1 you left that detracting comment against Aghagallon hanging. Who can you name playing for the U21s who did not play for other teams in the club this season. I bet that you cannot name one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 19, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
Also fatheadpg1 how did PG1 get pased into the B final. Might be a B final but would still be good for the club to continue the trend over the last few years of lifting silverware - good habit to get into.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 19, 2015, 06:41:21 PM
its ok hectic don't cry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 20, 2015, 09:33:15 AM
Not crying at all. Just interested to hear how you reckon 'st marys have got a few players in from other clubs'. This was always thrown at St.Galls when they started being succeesful by those envious of their achieveents. Don't make comment if you cannot stand over it  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
St John's March on in persuit of Antrim and Ulster U-21 glory. Today they were half a dozen points too much for St Endas who pushed them all the way in a closer game than the scoreline suggests. Matt Fitzpatrick the difference but lots to like about gutsy St Endas who are all about next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
St John's March on in persuit of Antrim and Ulster U-21 glory. Today they were half a dozen points too much for St Endas who pushed them all the way in a closer game than the scoreline suggests. Matt Fitzpatrick the difference but lots to like about gutsy St Endas who are all about next year.

Surely not!!!! We were told no one will get within ten points.... Slipping up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on November 23, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
Any word on when/where the U21 Final will be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 23, 2015, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
St John's March on in persuit of Antrim and Ulster U-21 glory. Today they were half a dozen points too much for St Endas who pushed them all the way in a closer game than the scoreline suggests. Matt Fitzpatrick the difference but lots to like about gutsy St Endas who are all about next year.

Surely not!!!! We were told no one will get within ten points.... Slipping up

Ha big effort from St.Endas yesterday but well beaten in the end - always a danger St.Johns would get a bit laxy dasy at some stage. Took in the other game yesterday in what was a very good contest with Glenravel probably feeling very unlucky to lose with some fine last ditch saves by the winners defence as they were totally penned in for the last 15 mins. Nonetheless while Aghagallon will be grateful to have sneaked through they will not beat St.Johns next Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 23, 2015, 10:46:06 AM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
hectic- I think st marys have got a few players in from other clubs- Ive heard they have a couple of cracking underage players one going by the name od Cealion 'Sid' Kearny ... Glenravel have a very strong spine and have a lot of u21s on the senior panel to provide experience

fatheadpg1 credit where it is due on your observations - Glenravel did indeed have a very strong spine and in fact having seen them twice earlier this season have an awful lot of their senior team playing U21 - a much stronger team than I anticipated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2015, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 23, 2015, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
St John's March on in persuit of Antrim and Ulster U-21 glory. Today they were half a dozen points too much for St Endas who pushed them all the way in a closer game than the scoreline suggests. Matt Fitzpatrick the difference but lots to like about gutsy St Endas who are all about next year.

Surely not!!!! We were told no one will get within ten points.... Slipping up

Ha big effort from St.Endas yesterday but well beaten in the end - always a danger St.Johns would get a bit laxy dasy at some stage. Took in the other game yesterday in what was a very good contest with Glenravel probably feeling very unlucky to lose with some fine last ditch saves by the winners defence as they were totally penned in for the last 15 mins. Nonetheless while Aghagallon will be grateful to have sneaked through they will not beat St.Johns next Sunday.

10 points win then at least in the final?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 23, 2015, 01:30:31 PM
Was at the Aghagallon game myself.

A nervy last 10 minutes to say the least.  However, they should never have been in that position as they wasted a lot of chances in the first half.

Looking forward to the final!  It's been a very successful year all round for Aghagallon.  Any ideas where it will be held?

PS. Getting players in from other clubs?  Was that a serious statement?  Obviously taking the piss?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 23, 2015, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2015, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 23, 2015, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
St John's March on in persuit of Antrim and Ulster U-21 glory. Today they were half a dozen points too much for St Endas who pushed them all the way in a closer game than the scoreline suggests. Matt Fitzpatrick the difference but lots to like about gutsy St Endas who are all about next year.

Surely not!!!! We were told no one will get within ten points.... Slipping up

Ha big effort from St.Endas yesterday but well beaten in the end - always a danger St.Johns would get a bit laxy dasy at some stage. Took in the other game yesterday in what was a very good contest with Glenravel probably feeling very unlucky to lose with some fine last ditch saves by the winners defence as they were totally penned in for the last 15 mins. Nonetheless while Aghagallon will be grateful to have sneaked through they will not beat St.Johns next Sunday.

10 points win then at least in the final?  ::)

Hard to say.  If you were to give me evens on it I would certainly take it.  I would say 10-15 pts but as yesterday showed me teams mature from the minor age group with Aghagallon hanging on desperately but what I would say looking at yesterdays teams is that while both had some very fine footballers on display, neither were a top team from 1-15 with both looking pretty youthful in some areas and no doubt still improving.  I think St Johns will dominate the majority of the lines and come through handy. That said I would prefer it to be a tight contest as yesterdays viewing was much more enjoyable than a turkey shoot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 23, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
Is this Johns u-21 team on a par with the Galls one of about 10 years ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on November 23, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
If anything Aghagallon lost players who transferred to some of the Lurgan teams a few years back if memory serves me right as they couldn't field a minor team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 23, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
Is this Johns u-21 team on a par with the Galls one of about 10 years ago?

Which under 21 team? We won five in a row ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2015, 12:21:58 AM
No. That St Galls group was truly unreal. I doubt if any club will ever produce a tight knit group with so many leaders and genuine quality.  I don't think we will ever see a club in Antrim so dominant again. Not even St Galls themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
It is hard enough to predict how current teams will fare against each other.  To compare across a 10 year span is difficult and we will probably only truly know in 5-10 years time when we see how this St.Johns group progress but they will do well to achieve close to what St.Galls have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 24, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
It is hard enough to predict how current teams will fare against each other.  To compare across a 10 year span is difficult and we will probably only truly know in 5-10 years time when we see how this St.Johns group progress but they will do well to achieve close to what St.Galls have.

I think its very simple, we won 5 in a row while winning the same amount at the same time in minor... when/if this current St John's team achieves that then we can say they are on a par with that particular Galls team... then ultimately go to win another brace at senior....

there is no disputing the history/tradition that the Johnnies have... most envious in Antrim I'd say domestically (though Rossa may dispute that  ;) )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 24, 2015, 02:00:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 23, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
Is this Johns u-21 team on a par with the Galls one of about 10 years ago?

Which under 21 team? We won five in a row ;)

The team didn't change much over those 5 years. At one stage they put 7 goals past L Dhearg in an U21 final. They were literally untouchable for a while

I've heard good things about this Johnnies team but haven't seen them and so wondered would they be on a similar level.

Although to be fair half the Galls u21 team who won the 1st of that 5 in a row played and won a 1st Senior championship  in the same year, the Johnnies kids haven't looked near doing that yet.

Just wondered as I heard they might be the next really big deal and wondered whether they were or not...time will tell.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Though the two big teams at the time were missing so don't think they'd have won that year if they were in ... (Though suspect they would any other year)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Though the two big teams at the time were missing so don't think they'd have won that year if they were in ... (Though suspect they would any other year)

What did the 2 big teams do the following year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 24, 2015, 03:13:35 PM
Plus I was wondering were they just athletes/gym monkeys as opposed to the footballers that Galls were.

Kids these days are in great shape in a way they weren't back in the day. From the v little I've seen of Johns they all look in great shape--

I just wondered if it was athleticism rather than footballing ability (and lack of ability elsewhere in the county) that has them at the top or whether they have genuine class footballers like Galls did who could match any team in Ireland.

Is good for our county if we produce genuine top class club sides so I'm just interested and especially given Galls are on the wain (maybe another 3 championships in them) as are Cargin (despite winning this year obviously but all their main men are getting on in years).

Would hate to see years of 1st round ulster club beatings like has happened for example to Fermanagh teams and wondering if Johns are going to be the real deal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 24, 2015, 03:13:35 PM
Plus I was wondering were they just athletes/gym monkeys as opposed to the footballers that Galls were.

Kids these days are in great shape in a way they weren't back in the day. From the v little I've seen of Johns they all look in great shape--

I just wondered if it was athleticism rather than footballing ability (and lack of ability elsewhere in the county) that has them at the top or whether they have genuine class footballers like Galls did who could match any team in Ireland.

Is good for our county if we produce genuine top class club sides so I'm just interested and especially given Galls are on the wain (maybe another 3 championships in them) as are Cargin (despite winning this year obviously but all their main men are getting on in years).

Would hate to see years of 1st round ulster club beatings like has happened for example to Fermanagh teams and wondering if Johns are going to be the real deal

That's a fair point... time and development with a good coach will decide that for the Johnnies....

as for the years of 1st round knockouts at Ulster club the Johnnies and ourselves always managed to do well when competing in Ulster and beyond... The Johnnies came up against a college team in the All Ireland final when they were in their pomp but they met a team laced with superstars !!

I hope we can generate more club teams to push for honours rather than the usual suspects... more country teams please ? when was the last country team to win bar Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Though the two big teams at the time were missing so don't think they'd have won that year if they were in ... (Though suspect they would any other year)

What did the 2 big teams do the following year?

Nothing.

I don't think St Galls would have beat them the first year though. All irrelevant now anyway.

1966 was last time according to wiki MR... Seems about time someone else won it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 04:34:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
Though the two big teams at the time were missing so don't think they'd have won that year if they were in ... (Though suspect they would any other year)

What did the 2 big teams do the following year?

Nothing.

I don't think St Galls would have beat them the first year though. All irrelevant now anyway.

1966 was last time according to wiki MR... Seems about time someone else won it.

We'll never know, and that's what happens when you go a bit loco at the county final showpiece!! we had just won div 2 that year  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 04:41:36 PM
I have no affiliation to either club so don't really care anyway  8)

Been a long time since anyone bar st galls or cargin won never mind other country clubs. Unless st johns step up I don't think that will change for a while and even if they do I doubt it will change for a while.

Is McBride still u21?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 25, 2015, 09:35:19 AM
U21 Final confirmed for Lamh Dhearg at 2pm. 

Colm McDonald referee.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 25, 2015, 12:16:23 PM
I have been impressed any time I have saw Colm McDonald referee - hope I have not skudded him for Sunday but always seems to apply a good deal of common sense and manages the game well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 25, 2015, 12:16:23 PM
I have been impressed any time I have saw Colm McDonald referee - hope I have not skudded him for Sunday but always seems to apply a good deal of common sense and manages the game well.

Yep, agreed , Colm will be on the ball and is fairly fit to keep up with play... good luck to all involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on November 25, 2015, 01:59:17 PM
The modern day plight of the dual club could be the Johnnies downfall as quite a few of the team's leaders are successful in both codes which may hinder their progress for senior football glory. Although that said their two best young players McBride (out of u21) and Fitzpatrick are both football only.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 25, 2015, 12:16:23 PM
I have been impressed any time I have saw Colm McDonald referee - hope I have not skudded him for Sunday but always seems to apply a good deal of common sense and manages the game well.

Yep, agreed , Colm will be on the ball and is fairly fit to keep up with play... good luck to all involved

+1 havent seen him at high level but any time i have seen him in our lower leagues ive had nothing to say about him, which i think is the best complement you could give a referee
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2015, 06:09:25 PM
Hearing very positive reports back about the senior county football set up. Fitzy has moved to freshen up his management team and bringing in Gearoid has proved popular. A good few players are back and there is an air of optimism about the set up that has been missing for quite a while. Delighted to hear it. 2016 could be a good year for the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 27, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2015, 06:09:25 PM
Hearing very positive reports back about the senior county football set up. Fitzy has moved to freshen up his management team and bringing in Gearoid has proved popular. A good few players are back and there is an air of optimism about the set up that has been missing for quite a while. Delighted to hear it. 2016 could be a good year for the Saffrons.

What players are back.?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bloodybreakball on November 27, 2015, 09:52:53 PM
Sheeney MC quillan and joe Quinn are back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2015, 10:47:49 PM
Cj in hurling panel. Wonder would he commit to both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
If I was in management shoes I wouldn't want too much stuff plastered on here. You would want a low profile and get a good pre season done and hopefully get a few good wins board early doors.
Suffice to say the mood is good in the camp and things have moved to a better place than last year. A few notables are back in the fold. Good luck to all involved. Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 28, 2015, 12:03:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2015, 10:47:49 PM
Cj in hurling panel. Wonder would he commit to both.

with his dodgy hip lol no chance!
Think he is on hurling panel as he is not on football one.
Heard a few returns r on the cards Bannside which is certainly heartening but u always lose a man or two in the crossfire!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
Agree Culchie you can't please everyone. But if we can even get most of our better players involved in the squad then that will be a huge improvement. And that seems to be happening.

Fair play to Fitzy. He has got two or three good additions to his management team and they have all played at a high level or at university etc (or both) so it can't be said that he hasn't gone flat out to improve some of the things that came up short last year. Hats off...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 29, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Under 21 game off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on November 29, 2015, 08:23:11 PM
St Endas won the minor championship - how many of their players were/are on the county minor panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 29, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Rossa U-16s flying the flag for Antrim Football down in Paul Mc Girr tournament. Another good win today this time over the hosts. Final next Sunday. More signs that we have plenty of genuine talent to work with in the underage ranks. Go win it now.

Didn't Rossa win this already just a few years back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 30, 2015, 12:05:00 AM
Spread across a few age groups from 15 -21 I'd say Rossa have more potential than any other Antrim club to produce a very strong senior squad in a few years time.  Really should be thinking strongly about winning or challenging for senior championships. Will most of the really good uns stick at it HS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on November 30, 2015, 12:23:43 AM
I hear Sarsfields have a motion in to change leagues structures. Division 1&2 to have 12 teams.

Can't imagine the wee man or Fitzy  agreeing to this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2015, 08:14:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 30, 2015, 12:05:00 AM
Spread across a few age groups from 15 -21 I'd say Rossa have more potential than any other Antrim club to produce a very strong senior squad in a few years time.  Really should be thinking strongly about winning or challenging for senior championships. Will most of the really good uns stick at it HS?

On the subject of u16 teams... Every year our reps do really well at u16 yet 2 years later at the st pauls tournament it is very rare our reps even win a game(except LD obviously) never mind challenge to win it. Does this suggest something wrong with development of players between u16 and u18 in our county?? Lack of mcrory probably a big factor.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on November 30, 2015, 12:23:43 AM
I hear Sarsfields have a motion in to change leagues structures. Division 1&2 to have 12 teams.

Can't imagine the wee man or Fitzy  agreeing to this.


Might not be a bad thing - more players playing at a higher level plus Division 3 had 3 or 4 teams who were steamrolling the rest so maybe better to get them shifted up as well.  I know that Co.Derry continue with their leagues without county players - maybe something to consider here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 30, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on November 30, 2015, 12:23:43 AM
I hear Sarsfields have a motion in to change leagues structures. Division 1&2 to have 12 teams.

Can't imagine the wee man or Fitzy  agreeing to this.


Might not be a bad thing - more players playing at a higher level plus Division 3 had 3 or 4 teams who were steamrolling the rest so maybe better to get them shifted up as well.  I know that Co.Derry continue with their leagues without county players - maybe something to consider here.

+1 i think at the current moment it is a good idea Rasharkin V Mitchels/St Agnes' or even Eire og' will do no one any good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on November 30, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
Think Sarsfields motion was only about self preservation and not about the 'good of Antrim'. A 12 team league has not been thought out. At the minute Divisions 1 and 2 work well as a two way league ensures 18 games which given the amount of other code clashes and age group clashes is just about the correct amount of games. With 12 teams is it going to be a 2 way league with 22 games? Where do they fit the other 4 games into an already crowded fixture calendar? Or maybe they want top make it a 1 way 11 game season. That will really entice club players to keep playing. if they are talking about a split in the leagues or play-offs Sarsfields have not made any proposal on this issue and therefore as they have not fully though out their proposal it should be binned immediately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 30, 2015, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on November 30, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
Think Sarsfields motion was only about self preservation and not about the 'good of Antrim'. A 12 team league has not been thought out. At the minute Divisions 1 and 2 work well as a two way league ensures 18 games which given the amount of other code clashes and age group clashes is just about the correct amount of games. With 12 teams is it going to be a 2 way league with 22 games? Where do they fit the other 4 games into an already crowded fixture calendar? Or maybe they want top make it a 1 way 11 game season. That will really entice club players to keep playing. if they are talking about a split in the leagues or play-offs Sarsfields have not made any proposal on this issue and therefore as they have not fully though out their proposal it should be binned immediately.

this is where i would kind of agree with you, the 2 leagues where games are likely to be called off are div 1 and 2, games where they aren't likely to be called off is div 3. Div 3 can prove a tough league to get out. taking Aghagallon out of the mix the rest of the top 6-7 could beat each other, at the bottom you had maybe 3 teams who were taking hammerings. for me the split in div 3 worked well, its actually the 1 league where the split does and can work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 30, 2015, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on November 30, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
Think Sarsfields motion was only about self preservation and not about the 'good of Antrim'. A 12 team league has not been thought out. At the minute Divisions 1 and 2 work well as a two way league ensures 18 games which given the amount of other code clashes and age group clashes is just about the correct amount of games. With 12 teams is it going to be a 2 way league with 22 games? Where do they fit the other 4 games into an already crowded fixture calendar? Or maybe they want top make it a 1 way 11 game season. That will really entice club players to keep playing. if they are talking about a split in the leagues or play-offs Sarsfields have not made any proposal on this issue and therefore as they have not fully though out their proposal it should be binned immediately.

this is where i would kind of agree with you, the 2 leagues where games are likely to be called off are div 1 and 2, games where they aren't likely to be called off is div 3. Div 3 can prove a tough league to get out. taking Aghagallon out of the mix the rest of the top 6-7 could beat each other, at the bottom you had maybe 3 teams who were taking hammerings. for me the split in div 3 worked well, its actually the 1 league where the split does and can work.


Peileadoir what about after the 11 games you have a top half bottom half split, and hey ho you have another 5 games which coming nearer  championship will be more meaningful as it will be the top 6 playing against each other and same with the bottom 6. there is 16 games therefor decrowding your already crowded fixture calander
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 30, 2015, 01:40:36 PM
Looking after their own interests and nothing more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 30, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 30, 2015, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on November 30, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
Think Sarsfields motion was only about self preservation and not about the 'good of Antrim'. A 12 team league has not been thought out. At the minute Divisions 1 and 2 work well as a two way league ensures 18 games which given the amount of other code clashes and age group clashes is just about the correct amount of games. With 12 teams is it going to be a 2 way league with 22 games? Where do they fit the other 4 games into an already crowded fixture calendar? Or maybe they want top make it a 1 way 11 game season. That will really entice club players to keep playing. if they are talking about a split in the leagues or play-offs Sarsfields have not made any proposal on this issue and therefore as they have not fully though out their proposal it should be binned immediately.

this is where i would kind of agree with you, the 2 leagues where games are likely to be called off are div 1 and 2, games where they aren't likely to be called off is div 3. Div 3 can prove a tough league to get out. taking Aghagallon out of the mix the rest of the top 6-7 could beat each other, at the bottom you had maybe 3 teams who were taking hammerings. for me the split in div 3 worked well, its actually the 1 league where the split does and can work.


Peileadoir what about after the 11 games you have a top half bottom half split, and hey ho you have another 5 games which coming nearer  championship will be more meaningful as it will be the top 6 playing against each other and same with the bottom 6. there is 16 games therefor decrowding your already crowded fixture calander

i can see it from both sides tbh, the bottom half split didn't really work for the reason that there was no relegation and a shield finishing top of the bottom section, dont think any of the teams took this overly seriously and prob used this to try a few players out for champ and at the top Aghagallon had basically won the league already. but i think the race for 2nd was prob pretty decent.

will another year in div 1 do st theresas any good? would a rebuilding year not be good for Rasharkin? teams go up and down all the time, the fact that there are div 3 teams who aren't very good is irrelevant, Rasharkin and Sarsfields didn't do enough to stay in the division and have to take their medicine. My question would be are these 2 clubs sure things to go back up from div 3? Sarsfields spent a few years in div 3 before getting promoted so they know how difficult it can be. i would say clubs like Antrim, Glenravel Davitts and O'Ds will feel they can get promotion this season and if Ardoyne got a bit of momentum like they had at the end of last season they could push too, plenty of teams who would give Rasharkin and Sarsfields problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2015, 02:20:07 PM
For me there are too many spells from the season starts where no football is played.  Partly this is down to county fixtures.  I think there would be a benefit in continuing leagues when county players are missing.  Those teams with county players have the opportunity forced to give other players the chance to stake a claim for a place on the team while if it was on the basis of a 12 team league this would provide extra cushion against getting relegated.  Lets face it winning Div 1 is not a massive priority for the like of St Galls or the men from Toome at the beginning of any season - when St Galls were having winter campaigns they were giving key players a break during the early league rounds.  Someone mentioned St Teresas - debatable whether another year in Div 1 would see them be able to progress and put down an anchor but if it was easier to stay in a division some teams could benefit of getting a second year and push on.  Ballymena will play division 1 football next year with almost a generation of players having never played at that level despite having some very fine footballers in that time, not least Paul and Peter McCann, Sean McVeigh, Paddy Logan etc.  Would we as a county not benefit from having the potential for more players to play their club football at a higher level?  I also disagree with the analysis that a lot of teams will be in the mix for Division 3.  I would say now Rasharkin, Sarsfields, Glenravel and maybe Davitts will contest the top two places with Rasharkin and one of the others going up.  Again I think players from these teams would progress better if they were in Division 2.  Finally while I would support 12 teams in divisions 1 and 2 I would also align championships to these divisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
Besides I am not sure bringing this in would save the like of Sarsfields and Rasharkin.  If change was being brought in it should come the season after next so as everyone knows what they are playing for at the beginning of the campaign. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 30, 2015, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 30, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
Besides I am not sure bringing this in would save the like of Sarsfields and Rasharkin.  If change was being brought in it should come the season after next so as everyone knows what they are playing for at the beginning of the campaign.

there def is scope for change, last year i think the county done the only thing they could do when div 4 was not going to be workable and yes it had flaws but worked to an extent. I agree though that if things are going to be changed it should be the following year, would Sarsfields have this proposal if it was another club going down and not them? if it is going to be done then it shouldn't be a safe guard for teams at the bottom of the above division, for example if it was agreed that the season after next there is going to be 12 teams in div 1 &2 and 10 in div 3 which also aligns championship that would be great. i would have it that the bottom 2 teams in div 1 and 2 play off with teams 3 and 4 from div 2/3. therefore making the league actually worth something at the bottom instead of complete dead rubber once the chance of winning the league is out of the question. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 30, 2015, 03:32:52 PM
Was there not a proposal/motion at last years AGM which meant any league change proposals pushed through wouldn't take affect until the following year ..... could be dreaming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 30, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
I know that the Sarsfields proposal had been submitted before the completion of this years league.
I think debate is good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on November 30, 2015, 05:28:39 PM
Recommendations and motions only ever come from clubs who are affected by the certain thi they aim to change! Cushendall club have a motion in regarding u21 hurling, St Galls about reserve football,etc.

It is every clubs opportunity to do so at county convention.

Division 2 was cut throat this year with any team from 6 that could have went down with 2 games remaining. That is why sarsfields motion has merit, someone mentioned Aghagallon ran away with div 3. So why is sarsfields motion deemed out of the ordinary. How hard would it be to fit another 4 games into the year, start 2 weeks earlier?! There are always dates for refixes pencilled in also.

Sarsfields 2nd proposal that all leagues should be completed before championship also makes sense as no one except teams needing points want games in October or November!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 29, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Rossa U-16s flying the flag for Antrim Football down in Paul Mc Girr tournament. Another good win today this time over the hosts. Final next Sunday. More signs that we have plenty of genuine talent to work with in the underage ranks. Go win it now.

Didn't Rossa win this already just a few years back?

Aghagallon won the south west championship and never got to play Rossa in the county final. Rossa may well have won but bit stupid from the county not to let the champions from both sections play off in the final. Only in antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2015, 07:16:18 PM
Keep the leagues the way they are but try wrap it up in July and run the championship in August -Sept. Would be great if there was a standardised league cut off for all of Ireland and give teams a proper off season. Under 21 championships, Ulster championships etc running over the winter is ridiculous imo. In saying that, it is bound to be a hard job sorting fixtures and keeping everyone happy. there will probably come a time when county players don't play for their clubs until they retire from county football, will make it much easier for sceduling a GAA season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 29, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Rossa U-16s flying the flag for Antrim Football down in Paul Mc Girr tournament. Another good win today this time over the hosts. Final next Sunday. More signs that we have plenty of genuine talent to work with in the underage ranks. Go win it now.

Didn't Rossa win this already just a few years back?

Aghagallon won the south west championship and never got to play Rossa in the county final. Rossa may well have won but bit stupid from the county not to let the champions from both sections play off in the final. Only in antrim.


i may be wrong here but i am near certin Rossa played an All County Final against All Saints this year which would suggest Ballymena won South west, or at least were selected by South West to compete in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 29, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Rossa U-16s flying the flag for Antrim Football down in Paul Mc Girr tournament. Another good win today this time over the hosts. Final next Sunday. More signs that we have plenty of genuine talent to work with in the underage ranks. Go win it now.

Didn't Rossa win this already just a few years back?

Aghagallon won the south west championship and never got to play Rossa in the county final. Rossa may well have won but bit stupid from the county not to let the champions from both sections play off in the final. Only in antrim.


i may be wrong here but i am near certin Rossa played an All County Final against All Saints this year which would suggest Ballymena won South west, or at least were selected by South West to compete in the final.



Southern Gaels v O'Donovan RossaThe third Quarter Final in the Pall McGirr U16 Club Champions Tournament takes place on Saturday morning at 12:00 in Gardrum Park Dromore and it is an intriguing tie between the highly promising Antrim champions O'Donovan Rossa and tournament debutants Southern Gaels of Cavan. Both teams have had great season so far winning league and championship double's and indeed in Rossa's case it has been an extra special season having also secured the Antrim hurling title as well with 16 of their players being on both panels. Rossa also have pedigree in the tournament having won it on their last visit and this is something team mentor Hugh McGettigan pointed to as a motivating factor "Having won the Paul McGirr in 2011 O'Donovan Rossa, Belfast are very happy to return to this prestigious tournament. These current crop of lads stood on the sidelines 4 years ago cheering on their older club mates hoping some day they would reach the pinnacle of u16 club football in Ulster. Having progressed from u14 with a winners and runners up medal in All Ireland Feile in hurling and football respectively, This team, this year have won all county championships and league titles in hurling and football undefeated. In progressing to the Paul McGirr Rossa had to overcome a strong All Saints team from Ballymena by 6 points in the county final.


taken from Dromore gaa facebook.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2015, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 29, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Rossa U-16s flying the flag for Antrim Football down in Paul Mc Girr tournament. Another good win today this time over the hosts. Final next Sunday. More signs that we have plenty of genuine talent to work with in the underage ranks. Go win it now.

Didn't Rossa win this already just a few years back?

Aghagallon won the south west championship and never got to play Rossa in the county final. Rossa may well have won but bit stupid from the county not to let the champions from both sections play off in the final. Only in antrim.


i may be wrong here but i am near certin Rossa played an All County Final against All Saints this year which would suggest Ballymena won South west, or at least were selected by South West to compete in the final.

Yeah but Aghagallon beat Ballymena handy in the South West Championship at some stage. The Breslin Cup I think it is called. But the South West put forward Ballymena to play in the final as they are league champions.

Edit: Not sure what stage they played Ballymena
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on November 30, 2015, 08:22:22 PM
Sarsfields are looking to change the league for self-preservation and as a result haven't really put proper planning into their proposal; Antrim clubs would definitely object to playing games without their county contingent as *starred* games are alien to the Antrim club scene. 10-12-12 may work better. As a division 3 player I do not mind either way if the proposal passes, as I feel playing the better teams improves standards as a whole. Contrary to popular belief, division 3 bar Aghagallon was quite competitive before the split.

I do like the idea of aligning the leagues with championship and the 12-12-10 would work better in that instance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 30, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
To say that proper thinking didnt go into the proposal is nonsense. There is less hurling games this year due to the Hurling league changes that come into affect this year so more chance to play the extra football fixtures under the proposals. Proposal prob wont go through but debate is good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 04, 2015, 09:52:06 AM
Good to see a lot of bigger names back in the County Senior Panel (see in today's Irish News).

There's nothing like it when the County are going well in the Championship, with those players available (and if fit) there's no reason why we couldn't beat Fermanagh in the prelim round and hopefully get the ball rolling

Any other names back/new names added?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2015, 10:11:03 AM
Is the squad anywhere online??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on December 04, 2015, 10:50:37 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/35004823
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 04, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
Is John McCarron good?

No sign of the squad list--presume it isn't finalised yet

Mick McCann not back?

TS Express still retired?

Sean Kelly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2015, 07:28:25 PM
Gold, John Carron was the Cargin and S West footballer of the year.............and he has made giant strides forward in 2015.
Michael Mc Cann is up to his eyes in the gym.....moving bis business to a new location.....but do not rule him out.
The TS express is 'retired' at the moment, but I fully expect his return to the fold in 2016.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on December 05, 2015, 09:15:58 PM
U-21 Final St John's v Aghagallon will be played at Corrigan Park tomorrow at 2pm. Clubs tossed for venue...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 07, 2015, 09:06:16 AM
Johnnies do the business as expected. That's some collection of medals this group has in football and hurling the whole way up from underage.  Credit where it's due to the Whiterock men.

Aghagallon weren't out of it and will like the look of their own crop to work with in the next few years.

Casements just got the better of Glenavy in a close fought B semi. Alex Gallagher looks a tremendous prospect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 07, 2015, 12:55:42 PM
Agahagallon only lose 1 player from that team and the others coming in are cracking footballers. St John's were massive compared to most of our boys. Some good footballers on St. John's team but nothing that lived up to the hype.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2015, 12:56:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2015, 12:55:42 PM
Agahagallon only lose 1 player from that team and the others coming in are cracking footballers. St John's were massive compared to most of our boys. Some good footballers on St. John's team but nothing that lived up to the hype.

So Cargin wont be quaking in their boots just yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 07, 2015, 01:56:54 PM
St John's team didn't look powerful for all the talk.

Def not in same league as the St galls team from 10 years ago (IMO).

Credit where credits due, great achievement to win both u21 grades.

Will be interesting to see how this team pans out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 07, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
Think last years St Johns team were better and should have won Ulster only to throw it away against Glen.  That said they were pretty comfortable most of the way yesterday against a spirited Aghagallon.  Not sure if venue had much sway though would have been interesting had St Johns been the away team.  And I was wrong twice in saying that nobody would get within 10 pts of St Johns though I did say Aghagallon would run them closer than St Endas.  On hindsight and from I saw in the semi final Glenravel would also have came within a closer margin than the 10 pts so good to see a few reasonable teams within the county at this age-group.  As expected McDonald controlled the game excellently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on December 07, 2015, 02:39:22 PM
Aghagallon were all about damage limitation yesterday.  They had 3 men lining the St John's full forward who still managed to win plenty of ball.  Given the conditions 0-16 was a good score from St John's and they were never in any danger of losing the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 07, 2015, 11:05:01 PM
Div 1 and 2    12 team leagues ne t season      div 3  will  have 10.     No relegation from div 1/2    FL   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 08, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
I like this league format though I am not so sure that it should have been brought in immediately but rather a year after being announced so as everyone knows at the beginning of the season what they are shooting for.  Are the championships going to be aligned with the leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2015, 12:13:21 PM
So a new format for football leagues next season and we can expect better...............somebody a lot more qualified to do so please explain ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 08, 2015, 04:16:47 PM
if it was to be changed it should have been 10-12-12, we dont have 12 division 1 standard teams unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 08, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
A bit unfair to the likes of Antrim , who didn't know that a top 4 place (as opposed to 2) would have meant promotion.

I would have been in favour of these changes taking effect from 2017 onwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 08, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 08, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
A bit unfair to the likes of Antrim , who didn't know that a top 4 place (as opposed to 2) would have meant promotion.

I would have been in favour of these changes taking effect from 2017 onwards.

Exactly, makes no sense, teams who just coasted because they didn't realise they could go up have been shafted. i assume the leagues will look like this:

Lamh Dhearg
St Galls
Cargin
Creggan
St Theresas
Ahoghill
Ballymena
Portglenone
Aldergrove
Rossa
St Johns
St Bridgets

div 2

St Pauls
Moneyglass
S Endas
Dunloy
Aghagallon
Glenavy
Gort
Sarsfields
Rasharkin
Tir Na Nog
Glenravel
Davitts

Div 3
Antrim
Aggies
Mals
Ardoyne
Pearses
Mitchells
Ballycastle
Lisburn
Eire Og
O'Donnells

really hope this aligns the championships also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2015, 07:11:11 PM
Jeez twelve in division one.......a lotta thought went into that one........ :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 09, 2015, 08:24:22 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 08, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 08, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
A bit unfair to the likes of Antrim , who didn't know that a top 4 place (as opposed to 2) would have meant promotion.

I would have been in favour of these changes taking effect from 2017 onwards.

Exactly, makes no sense, teams who just coasted because they didn't realise they could go up have been shafted. i assume the leagues will look like this:

Lamh Dhearg
St Galls
Cargin
Creggan
St Theresas
Ahoghill
Ballymena
Portglenone
Aldergrove
Rossa
St Johns
St Bridgets

div 2

St Pauls
Moneyglass
S Endas
Dunloy
Aghagallon
Glenavy
Gort
Sarsfields
Rasharkin
Tir Na Nog
Glenravel
Davitts

Div 3
Antrim
Aggies
Mals
Ardoyne
Pearses
Mitchells
Ballycastle
Lisburn
Eire Og
O'Donnells

really hope this aligns the championships also.


Looking at that Division 3 actually looks more competitive and less predictable than it has ever been.  I am not so sure Antrim would have finished in the top 4 last year regardless but what this means is that they have a really good chance of finishing in the top 2 next season and thus getting promotion.  Alternatively had the changes came in 2017 they would have missed out to two of Rasharkin, Sarsfields and Glenravel.  So while I do think it would have been better to give teams notice I can actually see this format being an advantage to the like of Antrim, Ardoyne, O Ds etc in terms of getting a crack at Div 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 09, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 09, 2015, 08:24:22 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 08, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 08, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
A bit unfair to the likes of Antrim , who didn't know that a top 4 place (as opposed to 2) would have meant promotion.

I would have been in favour of these changes taking effect from 2017 onwards.

Exactly, makes no sense, teams who just coasted because they didn't realise they could go up have been shafted. i assume the leagues will look like this:

Lamh Dhearg
St Galls
Cargin
Creggan
St Theresas
Ahoghill
Ballymena
Portglenone
Aldergrove
Rossa
St Johns
St Bridgets

div 2

St Pauls
Moneyglass
S Endas
Dunloy
Aghagallon
Glenavy
Gort
Sarsfields
Rasharkin
Tir Na Nog
Glenravel
Davitts

Div 3
Antrim
Aggies
Mals
Ardoyne
Pearses
Mitchells
Ballycastle
Lisburn
Eire Og
O'Donnells

really hope this aligns the championships also.


Looking at that Division 3 actually looks more competitive and less predictable than it has ever been.  I am not so sure Antrim would have finished in the top 4 last year regardless but what this means is that they have a really good chance of finishing in the top 2 next season and thus getting promotion.  Alternatively had the changes came in 2017 they would have missed out to two of Rasharkin, Sarsfields and Glenravel.  So while I do think it would have been better to give teams notice I can actually see this format being an advantage to the like of Antrim, Ardoyne, O Ds etc in terms of getting a crack at Div 2.

You're right Div 3 does look pretty competitive and i would say 5 or 6 teams would be looking at gaining promotion, my only real concern is a 12 team div 1 doesn't look too strong but hey done now so lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 09, 2015, 01:25:23 PM
I can appreciate both sides of the argument for and against a 12 team Division 1.  In reality two or three teams are ahead of the pack every year.  Rossa and St Johns and possibly Portglenone seem to be heading in the right direction.  Other teams like St Teresas I would not hold out much hope for.  However most teams that get promoted in both codes each year view success the following year as maintaining their status with the hope of kicking on in the second year.  With additional teams in here there is a better opportunity for decent teams to get a foothold in the division and then use the experience of playing higher calibre teams to improve and step up accordingly.  This would be on a club by club basis though. For example a young team coming up would probably have more room to improve than an older team.  The flipside of course, as well as additional fixtures, is that for the top teams there could be more easy games and the danger of dragging the overall standard down.  Hard to know but I will be interested to see if any teams that make the step up can then kick on. I would like to think that long term we would have more Div 1 standard teams/players but time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
I think it's great. Looking at all those leagues and all will be very competitive. Maybe if you're St Galls Cargin or Lamh Dhearg in div one there may look to be plenty of easy matches, but from the perspective of every club in the rest of those leagues there's plenty of really competitive matches to look forward to. Better than a ratio of one match to three training sessions IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
4 more games a year will put a bit more of a strain on dual clubs and fixtures committees mind you...

They definitely needed some form of rebalance as how division 3 was run off last year at the beginning provided a lot of very lop sided games. This looks like it could do that I suspect which is good.

Division 1 may have some one sided games but unfortunately the top couple could probably play two teams who would beat other teams even in a 10 team league anyway so no-one's fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 10, 2015, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
4 more games a year will put a bit more of a strain on dual clubs and fixtures committees mind you...

They definitely needed some form of rebalance as how division 3 was run off last year at the beginning provided a lot of very lop sided games. This looks like it could do that I suspect which is good.

Division 1 may have some one sided games but unfortunately the top couple could probably play two teams who would beat other teams even in a 10 team league anyway so no-one's fault.

Is it set in stone that there will be four more matches, i thought there may be the option of two less games with 11 first round games followed by a Top/Bottom half split and another 5 games. even if not the 'bigger clubs' who don't seem to want these extra fixtures or Easier games have a chance to blood their younger players and give their extended squad a run out if the gulf is so big. pick the two teams you dont deem worthy and play your second 15 against them, simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 10, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on December 10, 2015, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
4 more games a year will put a bit more of a strain on dual clubs and fixtures committees mind you...

They definitely needed some form of rebalance as how division 3 was run off last year at the beginning provided a lot of very lop sided games. This looks like it could do that I suspect which is good.

Division 1 may have some one sided games but unfortunately the top couple could probably play two teams who would beat other teams even in a 10 team league anyway so no-one's fault.


Is it set in stone that there will be four more matches, i thought there may be the option of two less games with 11 first round games followed by a Top/Bottom half split and another 5 games. even if not the 'bigger clubs' who don't seem to want these extra fixtures or Easier games have a chance to blood their younger players and give their extended squad a run out if the gulf is so big. pick the two teams you dont deem worthy and play your second 15 against them, simple

U may see something like u r talking about come to fruition gizzy, one full round of 11 games, then split in two & another 5 games, so in effect 2 less games than last year, 16 game league with more competitive games for the top teams nearer championship & no gimmes at the end of the year for teams at the bottom either which has happened year in year out.

makes sense in my opinion.

be interesting to see who chairs ccc next year, i hear there is a meeting next week to get old and new together and move forward from there.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2015, 09:53:38 AM
Yeah if it split I think it would work very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 11, 2015, 10:08:59 AM
I read Frankie Quinn had taken a swipe at the amount of canvassing that had gone on around clubs by 'Saffron Vision' in order to gain support in the elections this week.  Surely for anyone wishing to invoke change the key is to inform clubs on their strategy, targets and goals so as they can make an informed decision when voting. Maybe a lack of transparency and working closely with clubs has helped Antrim county get into the sorry state it has been in. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
it happens at every AGM in the county where someone who wants a position and thinks that they could do a better job canvasses for support. The defeated person generally feels like they have been ambushed and therefore moans about it.

SV canvassed well and as a result got the positions. I know every position went to a secret vote at our AGM and the people who were voted in were who we as a club went forward with to support. It was the same no doubt for every club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2015, 07:50:46 PM
Wonder would Mr Quinn have survived a vote?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 14, 2015, 10:54:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 12, 2015, 07:50:46 PM
Wonder would Mr Quinn have survived a vote?

I dont think he would have judging by the way things went last week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2015, 11:21:55 AM
Michael mccann back in the panel. Big addition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on December 14, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Who can stop Antrim now in Division 4 with all these players back? Serious improvement in the strength of the panel with this latest news
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2015, 09:50:55 PM
Excellent vibe about the panel too compared to recent years. Things nice and positive with hopefully lots to look forward to. Get out of division four and beating Fermanagh that's the two main goals at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Niall McKeever Sean Burke, Jack Dowling, John Carron, Sean Mc Veigh and now Mick. That's midfield sorted!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 14, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
How many times have heard about "great vibes" and "training is brilliant" from both the footballers and hurlers?

Let's wait and see, talking won't win anything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2015, 11:33:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
How many times have heard about "great vibes" and "training is brilliant" from both the footballers and hurlers?

Let's wait and see, talking won't win anything

You can admit though that its a better panel than we've had recently??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on December 15, 2015, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
Niall McKeever Sean Burke, Jack Dowling, John Carron, Sean Mc Veigh and now Mick. That's midfield sorted!

Having watched Mick playing a less restricted role for Cargin this year, where by he was lined out at full forward and given what seemed like a free role in my opinion brought the best out in him. I'd like to see him play a similar role for Antrim where he can dictate the game higher up the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2015, 11:35:02 AM
It worked well the year we got to the ulster final. Out of all those guys I think he's the most versatile so shouldn't be difficult to accomodate him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on December 15, 2015, 09:59:45 PM
Really looking forward to the league campaign, it seems there will be serious competition for places which is not often the case. One thing I will say is we need a freetaker who is deadly accurate as this is often an essential requirement in promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 16, 2015, 09:56:41 AM
Joe Quinn involved as a coach now to. Making moves in the right direction anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 17, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Great news on the Dunsilly project.......in time to host county finals 2016?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 17, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
First  idea from  S V   :  start  div 1 and 2  in February !    2nd idea  reform Cccc by not agreeing a chair  and secretary.  The ghost of the  wee man ? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2015, 09:09:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2015, 09:01:52 PM
1st one - I don't think this was solely SV's idea. Other candidates had suggested similar before convention. Good thing for dual clubs IMO as it will help alleviate fixture congestion when the hurling season begins.

That may be the case HS but never implemented
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 17, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
starting the leagues early was a must, maybe 1st week in feb is too early though? Hopefully this allows leagues to be wrapped up before first round of championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 17, 2015, 10:24:13 PM
First week of Feb  :o  Some teams will only be starting their training in Feb!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 17, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
It will mean teams starting their pre season at the start of December from now on. Start of March is more realistic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 18, 2015, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 17, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
It will mean teams starting their pre season at the start of December from now on. Start of March is more realistic.

How long does a good pre season last? some teams seem to overdo it, surely 4-5 weeks is plenty especially as most players do their own gym work etc over the winter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on December 18, 2015, 12:04:49 PM
I agree that the leagues need to start earlier but not 8 weeks earlier. There are 4 additional games this year not 14 extra games. Most clubs pitches are still closed in early February and if the leagues start early February they will become disjointed and stop-start. This appears to be a knee jerk reaction to having an additional 4 games to fit in for each club. Last year the leagues started on 8th April. If they started the leagues on 6th or 13th March they would still be able to get 3 or 4 games in by the start of April and still be ahead of where they were last year. Common Sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 18, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2015, 12:09:07 PM
I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction to having 4 extra games. Chances are there will actually be 2 less league games this year. It is more a reaction to requests from dual clubs to help with their busy fixture schedule IMO.
+1 one of the main issues being for example a football league fixture the wed before a hurling championship game etc, clubs need more breathing space. This gives it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 18, 2015, 01:30:24 PM
stupid idea if u ask me!
wouldnt happen on wee joes watch, in fact it didnt happen as he turned this proposal down numerous times from the st aggies man who tried to propose it, who is now on board the cc and will put his mad plans in place!

will clubs be happy to play without their county players also?!

who will support our county teams if club games r fixed for same days, times, etc.

no mid week games is the cause of starting this early, the idea is to play games friday and sundays. can of worms.
makes absolutely no sense at all & doesnt take juvenile divisional board fixtures into consider at all, but sure let he tear at it, good luck to them when they have to refix alot of games and dont end up with leagues completed on time.

leave it as it was, a tweak here or there would be suffice. the county managers hadnt even been consulted about it, so needless to say they will have their say on it.

hopefully it gets sorted shortly!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 18, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
U might c his brother later when u r down the casement social club, as far as I know he still works behind the bar!

The men that r in the positions on the county will hopefully do the right thing after consulting with all relevant and realise that maybe there doesn't need a lot of knee jerk reactions. As I said before a tweak here or there will do the same job! 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 18, 2015, 06:15:42 PM
Or maybe they've thought it through and are happy with the decisions their making. One mans knee jerk reaction is another's quick thinking .... all dependent on whether you agree with it of course.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 18, 2015, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on December 18, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
U might c his brother later when u r down the casement social club, as far as I know he still works behind the bar!

The men that r in the positions on the county will hopefully do the right thing after consulting with all relevant and realise that maybe there doesn't need a lot of knee jerk reactions. As I said before a tweak here or there will do the same job!

Yes, because that has worked so well recently..... Yeah 7th feb might be a bit early but would be pretty sure it'll be better than what we have now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 20, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
With the league starting in Feb now will that mean everything is wrapped up earlier or will we be playing matches into October!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 21, 2015, 12:08:55 PM
People seem to forget the brilliant weather we have here. There will be umpteen games not played due to pitches being in no fit shape in many cases.

Our main pitch wont be open till April at the earliest meaning all games are on the second pitch. With it being used for training as well it wont be long before its tore into rubbish.

I hope not but with our great irish weather it will be mostly likely soaking for the month of Feb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 21, 2015, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 21, 2015, 12:08:55 PM
People seem to forget the brilliant weather we have here. There will be umpteen games not played due to pitches being in no fit shape in many cases.

Our main pitch wont be open till April at the earliest meaning all games are on the second pitch. With it being used for training as well it wont be long before its tore into rubbish.

I hope not but with our great irish weather it will be mostly likely soaking for the month of Feb

but surely the weather is as bad in the winter months when we are completing games? i suppose the difference is the pitch is getting a bit of rest after oct etc where as from feb it isn't. DR i thought your club would be one of the ones happy with the leagues starting early and more gaps between hurling and football fixtures, especially with your football looking to be on the rise, might give lads a bit more breathing space to be dual players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 04:57:54 PM
In principle yes. Its the reality that a lot of clubs pitchs will struggle to make it viable that he's talking about.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 21, 2015, 05:03:13 PM
yeah exactly as skull says it. A lot of clubs only have one pitch and they will take an awful battering from feb to march with poor weather and matches on them.

You will see a few games called off in this period thus starting the back log of fixtures.

Im all for it but its more down to the reality that games will get called off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 21, 2015, 07:53:03 PM
It's going to make it a ridiculously long season. Training starting straight after xmas and probably not finishing up until October.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 21, 2015, 08:10:53 PM
Can county u21s play with their club before the county exits the championship ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 21, 2015, 07:53:03 PM
It's going to make it a ridiculously long season. Training starting straight after xmas and probably not finishing up until October.

Ridiculous. Really? Sounds a bit strong does it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2015, 11:39:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 21, 2015, 07:53:03 PM
It's going to make it a ridiculously long season. Training starting straight after xmas and probably not finishing up until October.

Ridiculous. Really? Sounds a bit strong does it not?

We'd never start training first week after Xmas... Oh wait!!! Every bloody year!! Falls park Tuesdays Thursdays!! Hated them but loved them in equal measure's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 21, 2015, 11:48:35 PM
I think it's a good idea.

Ballsy

Give it a go...whatever happens we'll all survive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 22, 2015, 12:51:39 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 21, 2015, 11:48:35 PM
I think it's a good idea.

Ballsy

Give it a go...whatever happens we'll all survive
exactly, something needed done, see how it goes its better than leaving it as is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 22, 2015, 01:21:29 AM
A few rounds here or there might be postponed but sure with our weather that could happen in any month. What's the worst case scenario. Clubs don't get to play in the Ulster winter league? Better to try and fail than not to try at all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 22, 2015, 07:50:00 AM
As a follower of a football only club am i being paranoid or are some suggesting that football is dispatched to the winter months to leave a long summer of hurling?
Some would suggest that we have a county board dominated by hurling folk. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 22, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
As someone from a dual club we have the headaches of football and hurling fixtures at every grade and then add to that camogie fixtures at every grade. Thats every week throughout the season.

When games are called off and need to be rearranged its a nightmare sometimes to find a free night that suits both clubs, thus causing a back log of games to be played.

I welcome the start of the football season early to try and get the games played. It also suits our dual players in the club so they can work with the football at the start of the year and not be playing 2 times a week in some cases.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 22, 2015, 04:19:55 PM
Paranoid may well be the word Shoebox.......but hey when have the under-21 hurling finals ever been played near Christmas or have division one hurlers faced a hectic schedule of five games in a 14 day period (Sun, Wed, Sunday, Wed, and Sunday?
Lets get the hurling leagues going in February :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 03, 2016, 01:06:12 AM
Best wishes to the County senior players and management at the start of another season. A few matches coming up now which should have us in shape for Carlow at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 03, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
We ran up against a very slick moving Derry who were very sharp for the time of the year. It's obvious they have had the football's out for a few weeks whilst we have been doing heavy gym work.  For that reason alone I'll take scoring 2-12 against them as a plus sign. Our legs will come and we will have better days. A month of legwork or matches will leave us good for the start of the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 03, 2016, 05:47:46 PM
Same old story.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 03, 2016, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 03, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
We ran up against a very slick moving Derry who were very sharp for the time of the year. It's obvious they have had the football's out for a few weeks whilst we have been doing heavy gym work.  For that reason alone I'll take scoring 2-12 against them as a plus sign. Our legs will come and we will have better days. A month of legwork or matches will leave us good for the start of the league.

I admire your optimism
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 03, 2016, 07:55:37 PM
What was our team and scorers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on January 04, 2016, 12:19:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 03, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
We ran up against a very slick moving Derry who were very sharp for the time of the year. It's obvious they have had the football's out for a few weeks whilst we have been doing heavy gym work.  For that reason alone I'll take scoring 2-12 against them as a plus sign. Our legs will come and we will have better days. A month of legwork or matches will leave us good for the start of the league.

And what's your excuse for your teams fitness being so poor. With a crap season last year, I would have thought promotion was number one for the season and that means being fit to play football. What might your managers plans be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 04, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
I ended up travelling with the in laws to this game yesterday. We were pleasantly upbeat given the recent optimism driven by a new county board.

I noted also with interest that Antrim were playing with what would appear to be a full strength team with all of their key players back. That has to be a very big positive. On the playing side I was very disappointed. They were a long long way behind Derry and actually looked significantly less fit and strong than Derry, surprising given all the talk about the work going on with Brian Magee etc. Lets hope ye lads can improve enough to make a push for Div 4 promotion.

If any of you were at the game could you enlighten me as to the antrim gameplan/tactics? It totally confused me and those with me. There didn't seem to be an obvious pattern of play and based on what I could hear from the Antrim management there was conflicting instructions to players!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 04, 2016, 09:41:59 AM
Our plans Shawshank are to get out of division four and have a proper crack at Fermanagh in the summer. I'm confident we can achieve both. That's when things are measured - not the first week of January.  Derry are off to a flyer there's no doubt about that. Good bet for some early league points? 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on January 04, 2016, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: Gold on January 03, 2016, 07:55:37 PM
What was our team and scorers?

Derry: E McNicholl; K McKaigue, D McBride, J Morgan; L McGoldrick (1-0), C McKaigue, D Heavron (0-2); E Bradley (0-1), C McAtamney; C McFaul (0-1), J Kielt (0-2, 0-1 free), E Lynn (0-2); E McGuckin (0-1), R Bell (1-4, 1-0 pen, 0-3 frees), S Heavron (2-1)

Subs: O Duffy for J Morgan (40), N Loughlin (0-1) for S Heavron (40), C Bradley (0-1) for J Kielt (46), M Lynch for S McGuckin (46), S McGahon for C McAtamney (55), N Forrester for L McGoldrick (61)

Yellow cards: J Morgan (10), C McKaigue (60)

Antrim: C Kerr; K O'Boyle, C Burke, J McGreevy; J Crozier, J Lavery, M Heinze; J Carron, S McVeigh; C Duffin, C Murray (0-1), M Sweeney; B Neeson (0-5 frees), M McCann (0-3 frees), K Niblock Subs: T McCann (2-0) for J Lavery (15), J Dowling (0-1) for S McVeigh (26), P Gallagher for B Neeson (52), C Fleming (0-2 frees) for M Heinze (58)

Yellow cards: K Niblock (10)

Black cards: C Kerr replaced by R Hanna (42)

Referee: N McKenna (Monaghan)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 04, 2016, 10:23:48 AM
I genuinely can't believe people complaining about a teams fitness in the first weekend in January. That's the big problem with Gaelic Football. Too concerned about fitness & not about how the team go about playing/scoring.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2016, 10:29:45 AM
At least we have the first step of getting our best players out. It was worrying how much we were *apparently* cleaned out at midfield though yesterday as I'm not sure that would be Derry's first choice midfield.

I don't know how much to read into it at this time of year. Derry regularly have our number. I guess we'll know better after the carlow game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 04, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 04, 2016, 10:29:45 AM
At least we have the first step of getting our best players out. It was worrying how much we were *apparently* cleaned out at midfield though yesterday as I'm not sure that would be Derry's first choice midfield.

I don't know how much to read into it at this time of year. Derry regularly have our number. I guess we'll know better after the carlow game.

Niall McKeever going to be available for NFL? that would prob sort our problem out at midfield i would think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 04, 2016, 11:50:40 AM
I'd say that will be Derry midfield. Patsy Bradley and Fergal Doc retired and only Niall Holly as their other option.

In contrast we have NMK and Sean Burke to enter the equation for us. Early days and when we get our NFL team together we will be ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensgael on January 04, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
With the first CC meeting due this month what's the thoughts on the proposal to change the grading format from that put forward last year and that the top 4 of Div 1 football & hurling for 2015 are graded not the four semi finalists. . If the proposal goes through it would mean that two of the semi finalists in lasts championship that aren't in the top four aren't graded. Similar in the hurling that one team that didn't make the semi finals will be graded. Seems that the proposal will benefit one club in both championships..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2016, 09:21:36 PM
Please explain glensgael...............seeding????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glensgael on January 05, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
country bumpkin, as hardstation has mentioned both senior football and hurling were seeded for financial reasons and they balls it up by fixing two seeded teams St Galls & Cargin agaisnst each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2016, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
Glensgael, what is the proposal this year?

Is it based on league positions or how they finish in championship the past year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 06, 2016, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2016, 11:18:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2016, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
Glensgael, what is the proposal this year?

Is it based on league positions or how they finish in championship the past year?
That's where I'm confused by his post. It seems he's saying it's based on league, which is the same as last year so I don't know why it would need proposed.
Unless last year's proposal was that it would be based on league for the 1st year and championship semi finalists every year after.

Surely the league positions for seeding are more relevant. for a number of reasons I would agree with this format. we cry out for more meaningful league games so there you go, with the inclusion of a down team in the mix usually, it would mean that the top 6/7 Antrim clubs may have extra incentive top finish as high as they can in order to miss the better teams in c/ship draw. secondly if it was based purely on c/ship semis from previous year you are basically saying to clubs that if they win (in most cases) one championship match that they will be seeded for next year. surely the reward for hard work and a good sustained league campaign should be rewarded more than a team that has one a championship match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
I agree with Gizzy on this.

The proposal is as follows.

A. Do we play off a normal 12 team division one league with 22 matches....or B. Do we split the league at half way point and top six go into their own league (mostly chasing div 1 title) with the bottom six (trying to avoid relegation).

The thought process behind the split into two leagues is clever enough imo. All games then  become meaningful (very few dead rubbers) and there is a prize for top six finish, ie, seeded in the following years championship.

Makes sense to me. A has 22 games, and B has 21 games. I'd go for a league final too between top two on points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2016, 09:23:13 AM
Antrim v Queens tonight at the Dub. QUB not a bad team - I watched then draw with UUJ a few weeks ago. Could be a tight call.

Not sure if the Queens Antrim players are taking part against their own county which should weaken Queens hand a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2016, 09:41:20 AM
How many antrim players do queens have BS? They have Murray - are there Delargys in there??

Might go down and watch this if I get the chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
I agree with Gizzy on this.

The proposal is as follows.

A. Do we play off a normal 12 team division one league with 22 matches....or B. Do we split the league at half way point and top six go into their own league (mostly chasing div 1 title) with the bottom six (trying to avoid relegation).

The thought process behind the split into two leagues is clever enough imo. All games then  become meaningful (very few dead rubbers) and there is a prize for top six finish, ie, seeded in the following years championship.

Makes sense to me. A has 22 games, and B has 21 games. I'd go for a league final too between top two on points.

I know that our footballers are against a 22 game season for the league in Div 2. They are prefering the 11 games and then the split to sort it out. 22 games is alot of games to be playing and if im honest they will be playing games in Dec at that rate!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 06, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
I agree with Gizzy on this.

The proposal is as follows.

A. Do we play off a normal 12 team division one league with 22 matches....or B. Do we split the league at half way point and top six go into their own league (mostly chasing div 1 title) with the bottom six (trying to avoid relegation).

The thought process behind the split into two leagues is clever enough imo. All games then  become meaningful (very few dead rubbers) and there is a prize for top six finish, ie, seeded in the following years championship.

Makes sense to me. A has 22 games, and B has 21 games. I'd go for a league final too between top two on points.

I know that our footballers are against a 22 game season for the league in Div 2. They are prefering the 11 games and then the split to sort it out. 22 games is alot of games to be playing and if im honest they will be playing games in Dec at that rate!

I think the split is the only viable option, but Bannside I think with the split its 16 games not 21 unless you are talking about home and away after the split?? I think just a one way split would be better. if there was a need for a few extra games then 3rd play 6th and 4th play 5th in league q/f winners play 1st and 2nd in League semi final and obv then a final. do the same for bottom half (1b) min games 17, max games 19.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 06, 2016, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 06, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2016, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
I agree with Gizzy on this.

The proposal is as follows.

A. Do we play off a normal 12 team division one league with 22 matches....or B. Do we split the league at half way point and top six go into their own league (mostly chasing div 1 title) with the bottom six (trying to avoid relegation).

The thought process behind the split into two leagues is clever enough imo. All games then  become meaningful (very few dead rubbers) and there is a prize for top six finish, ie, seeded in the following years championship.

Makes sense to me. A has 22 games, and B has 21 games. I'd go for a league final too between top two on points.

I know that our footballers are against a 22 game season for the league in Div 2. They are prefering the 11 games and then the split to sort it out. 22 games is alot of games to be playing and if im honest they will be playing games in Dec at that rate!

I think the split is the only viable option, but Bannside I think with the split its 16 games not 21 unless you are talking about home and away after the split?? I think just a one way split would be better. if there was a need for a few extra games then 3rd play 6th and 4th play 5th in league q/f winners play 1st and 2nd in League semi final and obv then a final. do the same for bottom half (1b) min games 17, max games 19.

Yeah i counted 16, 11 pre split then 5 after. if you played the team at home before the split then you're away after the split, just means some teams could in theory have 1 home game after the split but again thats just luck of the draw, you will still play your rivals home and away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2016, 10:24:08 AM
You're right Gizzy. After the split it's just the 5 games, home OR away. That's ideal plus play offs at the end as you say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
yeah i thought that was the way its to pan out. 11 games then a split with a further 5 games  to sort it out.

More or less the same format as last season that was done in Div 3 where we played a few at home and a few away to decide what happened.

It worked well from what i seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 06, 2016, 01:53:34 PM
Confusion seems to reign as to league and championship and maybe expected or anticipated as par for the course in our county.
Championship (senior) is as per motion 2014 Convention seeding as top four finishing in Division one, and in my humble opinion those sides should be seeded/kept apart until first point of contact. Last year seeds were only kept apart for preliminary round thus the almighty mess up which followed with top seeds, Cargin and Gall's drawn against in quarter finals which was first point of contact.......top seeds should be 1 2 3 and four in quarter finals and the remainder in last eight drawn against...............but hey this is Antrim and ????? and we did ensure that this was procedure in Hurling :-X
The division one league as per 2016 at twelve sides included only came about (in my humble opinion) because one club did not want to be relegated from the second grade and their motion to change accordingly was presented with little thought given as to consequence (jeez the motion as proposed looked such).
Talk of split etc etc etc for 2016 division one football is nonsense as the motion as proposed to change format should have included such.......Any such change will require change to league regulation, and such change, if indeed passed by the required majority will, or should not come into being until the 2017 season.....but hey this is Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2016, 02:30:31 PM
in the hurling Dunloy, Lgiel, Cdall and Ballycastle all were seeded and set into the quarter finals straight away. The others were drew out to play these teams.

I still dont understand how they managed to get 2 seeded teams paying each other in the football other than there was an uneven amount of teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2016, 09:55:06 PM
Interesting enough game tonight though queens poor enough especially when clarke went off.

Neeson made some difference and good to see niblock chf. Hard to judge on that game but definitely in the first half we struggled for scores and a scorable outlet.

Disappointing to see connor murray get straight red. He was arguably our best player. Ryan Murray may add something scorewise as i think we will be needing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2016, 12:13:21 AM
Conor was going well alright ITG. Again we shouldn't read too much into the result it's too early to be going well and fitness levels looked fine. Tyrone next week a different test, but all in all I like what I see for the time of year. I'd be worried if we were much further forward tbh. Seen too many teams that are flying in Jan looking like a busted flush in June.

So many plusses when all considered. Kobo Bam and two Mc Canns going nicely. Sean Burke a massive plus back on squad. And we have the best CHF in Ulster back again leading from the front. Not to mention Ryan Murray who tortured Tyrone at times on Sunday past.

Head down and keep working and I see a big year ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2016, 08:15:50 AM
I would agree with all but one thing... Tomas mccann didn't get going at all.

Michael and kevin niblock massive additions. Burke very good but not a ff.

We are in a much better place though tyrone will be too much i think. All about building for the league though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 07, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
yeah i thought that was the way its to pan out. 11 games then a split with a further 5 games  to sort it out.

More or less the same format as last season that was done in Div 3 where we played a few at home and a few away to decide what happened.

It worked well from what i seen.

I am not so sure about the split on the basis of last years Div 3 - from what I could gather some teams ended up with more home games than others and fairly lop sided in some instances.  I think it was a case that if you already played a team away for example you then got them at home after the split.  Problem being that you could have ended up with as many as 5 games at home after the split while some of your rivals could have had as little as two and over the course of the season in this could have seen some teams with maybe as few as 8 home games compared to others having 12 or 13.  Not good for gate receipts even allowing for television income and as for a level playing field.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2016, 02:42:17 PM
How many creggan guys are on the panel? I take it they're not available until after the hurling?

I thought the two johnstons were there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 07, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 07, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
yeah i thought that was the way its to pan out. 11 games then a split with a further 5 games  to sort it out.

More or less the same format as last season that was done in Div 3 where we played a few at home and a few away to decide what happened.

It worked well from what i seen.

I am not so sure about the split on the basis of last years Div 3 - from what I could gather some teams ended up with more home games than others and fairly lop sided in some instances.  I think it was a case that if you already played a team away for example you then got them at home after the split.  Problem being that you could have ended up with as many as 5 games at home after the split while some of your rivals could have had as little as two and over the course of the season in this could have seen some teams with maybe as few as 8 home games compared to others having 12 or 13.  Not good for gate receipts even allowing for television income and as for a level playing field.....

That was the way it worked out. We had already played Glenravel away in the league some when the split came we had to play them at home, which worked out as the decider for us to go up.

It works the same way in the hurling as well with the split. If you play them at home before the split i.e Cdall then if your still in the top 6 you play them away.

I suppose its about trying to balance it out fairly for each club.

Or what you could do is appeal it at the end of the season and waste everyones time in having a relegation/promotion scrap!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 07, 2016, 03:14:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 07, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
yeah i thought that was the way its to pan out. 11 games then a split with a further 5 games  to sort it out.

More or less the same format as last season that was done in Div 3 where we played a few at home and a few away to decide what happened.

It worked well from what i seen.

I am not so sure about the split on the basis of last years Div 3 - from what I could gather some teams ended up with more home games than others and fairly lop sided in some instances.  I think it was a case that if you already played a team away for example you then got them at home after the split.  Problem being that you could have ended up with as many as 5 games at home after the split while some of your rivals could have had as little as two and over the course of the season in this could have seen some teams with maybe as few as 8 home games compared to others having 12 or 13.  Not good for gate receipts even allowing for television income and as for a level playing field.....

That was the way it worked out. We had already played Glenravel away in the league some when the split came we had to play them at home, which worked out as the decider for us to go up.

It works the same way in the hurling as well with the split. If you play them at home before the split i.e Cdall then if your still in the top 6 you play them away.

I suppose its about trying to balance it out fairly for each club.

Or what you could do is appeal it at the end of the season and waste everyones time in having a relegation/promotion scrap!

Which is more important, playing your rivals both home and away or having a fair split of home games? i think the case of playing your rivals home and away is far better and the fairest way of a split. only thing could be possibly in year 2 the pre split fixtures are reversed, i.e. if St Johns played Cargin at home pre split in 2016 then it gets reversed the following season with new clubs taking over from relegated clubs so when doing fixtures 1st in div 2 takes bottom in div 1 place in the following years fixture calculation if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2016, 06:30:11 PM
Both Johnston on Poly panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 07, 2016, 08:55:54 PM
Thing is you get the same number of points for beating any team and not just your rival(s). I have not bothered to trail through last years results but I would hazrad a guess that the majority of teams average more points per game at home than away. As such I believe that it is important to have a balance of home and away games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 08, 2016, 06:51:48 PM
Have Antrim now got the most lethal forward line ever to line out at inter county level? Those goals have gone viral! Promotion and a good run in the Championship are definitely achievable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 10, 2016, 05:25:34 PM
Bam now up for an All Star ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on January 10, 2016, 05:27:41 PM
I believe there is a CCC meeting tomorrow night.

Anyone know who sits on this committee this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on January 10, 2016, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 10, 2016, 05:27:41 PM
I believe there is a CCC meeting tomorrow night.

Anyone know who sits on this committee this year?

Is this the first meeting of he year. Usual time for people to start the cries of "When at the fixtures out?!".

So I'll start - When are the fixtures out or at the very least the dates for hurling/football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 10, 2016, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on January 10, 2016, 05:27:41 PM
I believe there is a CCC meeting tomorrow night.

Anyone know who sits on this committee this year?

Is this the first meeting of he year. Usual time for people to start the cries of "When at the fixtures out?!".

So I'll start - When are the fixtures out or at the very least the dates for hurling/football?

Sure we know when they are starting and whose in the leagues...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2016, 11:44:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 10, 2016, 11:22:23 PM
Any word on a manager for yourselves yet, Milltown?

Yep in house and a great all round clubman!! Paddy McShane.... Will bring plenty experience and undoubted passion to the seniors...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 12, 2016, 11:05:43 AM
What are the odds on a Cargin v Gall's pairing in the opening round of the championship again in '16 MR2?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2016, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 12, 2016, 11:05:43 AM
What are the odds on a Cargin v Gall's pairing in the opening round of the championship again in '16 MR2?

Well, I wouldn't think we would be top seeds now, that has gone so maybe yourselves and Lamhs may be kept apart this time  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 12, 2016, 06:22:07 PM
Top four are seeded as per league placing at the end of the 2015.......think Gall's finished second Cargin in third.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 12, 2016, 06:33:24 PM
The always generous Mr Power has ur lads installed as favourites MR2...............as follows; Gall's 6/5 Cargin 6/4, L Dearg 7/1, Creggan 9/1, Johnnies 16/1, Ahoghill 28/1, Aldergrove 33/1, St Paul's 40/1, Casement's 40/1, St Brigid's 40/1...........what u think?
Gonna have a tenner on the men from the Hill, hear they are likely to be busy on the transfer market................u wanna bet? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 12, 2016, 07:29:28 PM
Any confirmation of league start dates as yet?

Seems late notification if the February start date is true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 12, 2016, 06:33:24 PM
The always generous Mr Power has ur lads installed as favourites MR2...............as follows; Gall's 6/5 Cargin 6/4, L Dearg 7/1, Creggan 9/1, Johnnies 16/1, Ahoghill 28/1, Aldergrove 33/1, St Paul's 40/1, Casement's 40/1, St Brigid's 40/1...........what u think?
Gonna have a tenner on the men from the Hill, hear they are likely to be busy on the transfer market................u wanna bet? ???

That's a very generous 6/4... Will place a ton on that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on January 13, 2016, 10:56:04 AM
Yes, hear the Johnnies are about to lose one of their main men to Lamh Dhearg. All the stops obviously being pulled out from the Hannahstown men in their pursuit for a championship. Amazing how some players in the city just jump from club to club when things aren't going well. so much for GAA ethos of one parish one club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 13, 2016, 11:26:05 AM
Quote from: Peileadoir on January 13, 2016, 10:56:04 AM
Yes, hear the Johnnies are about to lose one of their main men to Lamh Dhearg. All the stops obviously being pulled out from the Hannahstown men in their pursuit for a championship. Amazing how some players in the city just jump from club to club when things aren't going well. so much for GAA ethos of one parish one club!

Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on January 13, 2016, 12:03:07 PM
Country Bumpkin must have heard it too. He's on the McKenna Cup panel at present and also on the hurling panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2016, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2016, 11:26:05 AM
Quote from: Peileadoir on January 13, 2016, 10:56:04 AM
Yes, hear the Johnnies are about to lose one of their main men to Lamh Dhearg. All the stops obviously being pulled out from the Hannahstown men in their pursuit for a championship. Amazing how some players in the city just jump from club to club when things aren't going well. so much for GAA ethos of one parish one club!

Who?

Why would he leave the most up and coming club team in Belfast in pursuit of a championship medal with a team that last won a championship by default? or for that matter why not head up to Cargin and at least be actively chasing/winning championships ??? He wouldn't have went to us or Rossa for that matter which is strange if he's a good hurler he'd be starved of any good games with the Hannahstown men as recently they have dropped to Junior hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on January 13, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
Think he has family there as well, still bizarre though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 13, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Did hear about the wee Lambs getting a couple of additions......maybe related.......not twins but...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 14, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Lucky Tyrone didn't win that by a cricket score last night. Completely dominated - conceding goals in the opening and closing minutes was disastrous, especially the first one. McCann tried hard but got frustrated. Crozier and Laverty got through a lot. Conor Burke was best of the bunch. Forwards couldn't get on the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2016, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on January 14, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Lucky Tyrone didn't win that by a cricket score last night. Completely dominated - conceding goals in the opening and closing minutes was disastrous, especially the first one. McCann tried hard but got frustrated. Crozier and Laverty got through a lot. Conor Burke was best of the bunch. Forwards couldn't get on the ball.

the news on the radio reports were all about Antrim get THRASHED!!! other teams were beat by far more but Antrim were THRASHED!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2016, 02:28:13 PM
We had barely a score on the board until about the last 5 minutes when all the subs were made!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2016, 03:41:46 PM
Conor Burke the best of the bunch C&K. Really?
I was at the game and didn't see him. Are you sure we're talking about the same match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 14, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
To me he was the only player who physically matched up to Tyrone and was able to hold his own. I thought the was strong and forceful onto the ball and would have been a help in the middle. Tell me who you think was better than him? Michael McCann caught a few balls but was anonymous really for a player of his calibre. And he was lucky to stay on the field as he could be clearly heard giving out to the ref about decisions on at least three occasions.
Kevin Niblock and Brian Neeson could not et any space and hardly got a shot at goal.
Crozier tried hard and KOBO had no impact against the waves of Tyrone attacks.
Chris Kerr kept booting the ball as far as he could and it kept coming back into him. He tried a few short late in the game and found his man but the game was over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2016, 08:37:56 PM
The player you are talking about C&K was Sean Mc Veigh who did indeed have a great game at full back. Conor Burke was listed to play at 3 but didn't take any part in the game.

You're going by the programme so I can see how you made the mistake...but yes No3 was our best player on the night to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 14, 2016, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 14, 2016, 08:37:56 PM
The player you are talking about C&K was Sean Mc Veigh who did indeed have a great game at full back. Conor Burke was listed to play at 3 but didn't take any part in the game.

You're going by the programme so I can see how you made the mistake...but yes No3 was our best player on the night to be fair.

Apologies! He caught my eye. One big man!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
So Derry and Tyrone both win their semis easily enough against Cavan and Fermanagh respectively reach the final. Seen Derry twice this year and Tyrone twice as well....and both eyecatchingly forward for the time of the year.

Happier now with the way we are positioned for the start of the league in two weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 17, 2016, 06:48:44 PM
If these Tommy Murphy cup mark 2  proposals go through. It's imperative the team get out of division 4 this year for the good of antrim football. Also any confirmation of league start dates  or fixtures? rumour is 5th march.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 17, 2016, 08:48:23 PM
Promotion is essential this year. Hopefully our support which has been badly missing for the last few years will return and the team will give us plenty to cheer about. It a two way street. A few good results and the supporters will turn up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 17, 2016, 11:49:56 PM
Louth, Leitrim and Wexford all going well, however I firmly believe we are more talented whether this translates on the field is the question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2016, 08:17:12 AM
Step one was getting the players back which has pretty much happened but it's another big step to translate that onto on the field performances.

I worry about our lack of a big scorer in the FF line though maybe Neeson has enough about him to do that in division 4. I think we are ok in midfield and not too badly off in defense / half forwards but real scoring forwards I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 18, 2016, 07:31:30 PM
Rumour would suggest that Cargin have received a few transfer requests from players previously based across the river....................hard to get confirmation ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Elaborate CB. Also anyone know when championship draws are taking place? League dates would also be a start from saffron vision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Elaborate CB. Also anyone know when championship draws are taking place? League dates would also be a start from saffron vision

Same every year... The fact that the leagues are earlier with the new initiative will make it closer to start of league than before.... I sense some dissatisfaction with Antrim Vision (while its not entirely AV) been in a wet week and some are knocking.... Brill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 18, 2016, 11:05:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on January 18, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Elaborate CB. Also anyone know when championship draws are taking place? League dates would also be a start from saffron vision

That is as much as I know SH......not privy to such inside info......just relating what  I hear.
League dates, and structures due to that stupid motion will be on agenda at next weeks County gathering.....championship draws on the following week and maybe SV will proceed as directed by decision made re seeding........unless the little guy throws his weight around again :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 22, 2016, 01:12:37 PM
Well as long as they give equal attention to both codes they'll be alright in my book. Football is just as popular in Antrim as hurling. Championship entries apparently out, glenravel still junior even though they are division 2 this year big pressure on them to finally win it. Aldergrove down to intermediate apparently. Nothing confirmed as of yet so don't quote me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 22, 2016, 11:08:09 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on January 22, 2016, 01:12:37 PM
Well as long as they give equal attention to both codes they'll be alright in my book. Football is just as popular in Antrim as hurling. Championship entries apparently out, glenravel still junior even though they are division 2 this year big pressure on them to finally win it. Aldergrove down to intermediate apparently. Nothing confirmed as of yet so don't quote me

Is championships not meant to be based on leagues ? I thought that was the point of increasing the number of teams to 12 in div 1 & 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2016, 12:49:02 AM
Quote from: stiffler on January 22, 2016, 11:08:09 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on January 22, 2016, 01:12:37 PM
Well as long as they give equal attention to both codes they'll be alright in my book. Football is just as popular in Antrim as hurling. Championship entries apparently out, glenravel still junior even though they are division 2 this year big pressure on them to finally win it. Aldergrove down to intermediate apparently. Nothing confirmed as of yet so don't quote me

Is championships not meant to be based on leagues ? I thought that was the point of increasing the number of teams to 12 in div 1 & 2.


No, I don't think it was ever the case. I think the idea was to make more competitive leagues across the 3 divisions. I think the championships should of been based on the league positions though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 25, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
U really believe leagues will be more competitive PJ.... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 25, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
U really believe leagues will be more competitive PJ.... ???

Course not CB..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 25, 2016, 11:15:00 PM
Div 1 & 2 to start in April.

Would have preferred an earlier start (and therefore finish) to the season myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 26, 2016, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: stiffler on January 25, 2016, 11:15:00 PM
Div 1 & 2 to start in April.

Would have preferred an earlier start (and therefore finish) to the season myself.

lkewise, an earlier start would have been great and would have helped the dual clubs who have a big overlap. Ah well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2016, 11:44:32 AM
Late start to division one football in April will most likely ensure a breakneck pace with again with three games per week for a while....and as for the new format well.............maybe a new name on the trophy, but I won't hold my breath.
Hope the men from Stewartstown road manage to stay up this time or we will have a new structure again for 2017.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on January 26, 2016, 12:20:34 PM
From what I hear, Division 1 and 2 teams will play one another once, and then split into a top 6 and bottom 6 whereby each team will play one another once in their own half. 16 games in total. Personally think the old format was better and clubs voted in the new proposal without giving it any thought but it is what it is and clubs have to get on with it. Hopefully the leagues will be completed by mid Sept at the latest  with 2 games fewer and not stretch into late October/start of November as it was for some clubs last year. Everyone just looking forward to championship draws next week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on January 28, 2016, 06:44:53 PM
Any word on the line up yet? With the College lads back competition for places must be razor keen! Hopefully no injuries picked up in last few weeks...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2016, 10:16:54 AM
In total 38 players were invited to join the panel a few months ago and accepted to do so.  Once a few games are played the reality kicks in for some players and the thought of sitting on the bench, or worse not making the match day panel will see the panel automatically shred itself over the next few months. Thats going on in most counties and it sort itself out.

The panel for Carlow will be named by now and most likely the team itself wont be known until tonight. College players are back and there is a great mood in the camp. Fitzy has played a blinder over the break and freshened up the backroom team and now is the time to hand over to the players to see what their response is, come 2pm tomorrow.

Im hoping to be driving home with a good performance in the bag and two points on the table. Come on lads, time to get this show on the road!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2016, 11:24:23 AM
Sincere best wishes to Michael Hasson from Rasharkin who will today officially become the new President of Ulster Gaa. He is the first Antrim Gael to hold the role since Alf Mc Murray in the 1950s. It has been a quick rise through the ranks for Michael who has been a player, referee and official and whose immediate and extended family are all still highly involved with St Marys. 

With Dunsilly and Casement Park projects ongoing it is a bonus to have an Antrim man involved for the next three years. Congratulations and good luck.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: micko12368 on January 31, 2016, 12:27:46 AM
Agree bannside, a gentleman of the highest order. A proud day for St Mary's and Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 31, 2016, 11:22:02 AM
A few surprises on the team for the Carlow game  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2016, 11:37:25 AM
I like the pro video of the team but is there a simple list too??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 31, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
5 pt win.  Solid start.  Big game next week at home to Wexford.  Corrigan Pk the venue I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on January 31, 2016, 05:20:28 PM
Very fortunate to get a win there. Carlow dominated possession and kicked a lot of wides. Yet Antrim had a good number of chances when men were free inside of they could have been hit with a long ball. Michael McCann outstanding.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on January 31, 2016, 08:11:40 PM
Great to see someone sign up to slabber about  a win. How did we survive all these years without u
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2016, 08:40:55 AM
If the fella had enough interest to drive to Carlow and support the team then he is welcome to come on here and give his views. Nothing he said smacks of slabbering. I was there too and while it was great to come up the road with 2 points, we had plenty of scary moments after inviting Carlow on to us - despite the fact that we were 7 up at one stage and playing with the wind.

It was a game we would have lost last year - so well done on that. But to be honest I expected a bit more than hanging on for grim death in the last ten minutes against a very poor team. I couldnt shake that fact off on the long drive home.

Give & Go was right in saying Mick Mc Cann was superb. So too was Niblock who picked up a bad looking knock. And what the hell is Matt Fitzpatrick doing camped in our defence???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 01, 2016, 09:08:26 AM
Agree that bannside that we need fitzy in the full forward line. One good thing is there is serious competition for places the Johnstons, delargy, mcaleese, Murray, bam were all among the subs. I'd like to see Marty Johnston and delargy back next week. I feel delargy is our best man marker and could do a job on wexfords dangerous forwards.

Marty Johnston just oozes class and physicality. Will mckeever be suspended for next week?

I heard young  paddy mcaleer did well from what I was listening to on the radio
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2016, 09:50:25 AM
Agree SH about Marty Johnston. Hes got all the attributes and a good age now to come in and do his stuff. Will be fit and well and has played for UUJ this year so he wont need a few games to tune in. Niall Delargy has held Paddy Mc Brearty, Tomas Corrigan and lots of others scoreless or limited to one point from play so he will be disappointed with zero game time especially as he too is razor sharp having played all year for QUB. Better out in the half back line too I would offer. Ricky hasnt let Antrim down either so he can expect game time soon as well. One thing for sure, none of those guys will hang around if they dont feel appreciated.

Having said that our defence did well yesterday and none were noticeably sub standard. Snowy taking to FB like a duck to water, Conor Burke has great physical presence and I do like him tbh, and KOBO is Kobo = nailed on. Mc Aleer can be happy with his debut display too.

Personally I would have had Dermot Mc Aleese on well ahead of others who got game time. He can field a ball, break tackles and is as strong as a horse. Plus he can finish. Fit as a fiddle yet he watched several who werent near match fit (Sean Burke) go on ahead of him. Watching Matt Fitz trying to play a workhorse role that would have been perfect for Dermot was difficult and smacked of a home town decision. Will watch that development with interest. Tomas was non existent but got a full game. Ryan Murray a starter all day every day in my book.

The sooner SB is match fit the better, Niall Mc Keever needs a pull out from someone around the middle. The last 15 minutes was all Carlow and they were coming straight through the middle with no one marking anyone at times.

Some plusses yesterday, especially the points but lots to work on. Was still only January though and we are up and running.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 01, 2016, 02:42:35 PM
Competition is a headache that the management will be happy to accept. Only 15 can play. Management do need to keep players interested tho and I feel after Wexford we have the chance to make changes.

Tomas could be the most in danger of losing out when changes are made. I'd like to see Ronan Hanna given a go in nets aswell. It's great that there is such competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on February 01, 2016, 03:53:45 PM
Bannside while all ur points r valid, u can hardly say a hometown decision when u r promoting players from ur own club to replace them lol
i do agree dermot is becoming an awesome player for club and hopefully county too. still only 21/22!!
its great to have such a strong squad, everyone on the squad would merit a starting place on their day. i wouldnt be one for putting idle threats out there that if they dont get on they wont hang about, bit early in the year for that, maybe the university boys r being eased into it.
when i looked at the team before the game, i wondered who would be our scoring forward, conor murray & mick did most of the damage!
it was great to see all our scores came from play, 1-12! (correct me if i am wrong)
no goals conceded also a bonus.

every game is a championship game to get out of the basement division!

on the club scene, club championship draws r on tonight, lets hope the top seeds get their rightful place in the same pot lol

our pro will undoubtedly keep us well up to date as it happens, who needs jim white & the transfer window ha ha


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2016, 04:55:15 PM
Cant argue with any of that to be honest Culchie. And I have no influence over players they are big enough to handle their own affairs. Id say if they are treated with a bit of respect and told why they arent playing most will be fine with that!

Managers have opinions on players, and whether a player can translate club performance to the county stage or not. The only way of finding out is by giving it a try - no problem with that.  As a level two coach and a supporter Id say some of what the management were looking for yesterday worked out, and other things didnt. Thats normal. Hopefully it will be a long and successful season with lots of time to arrive at our best permutation.

In the meantime there is a necessity to rotate the squad a bit and allow players to feel valued. All successful teams need a competitive panel and the challenge for a manager is keeping 30 egos happy at the one time. Not easy with such good competition around and great to see.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 01, 2016, 05:46:20 PM
Paddy McBride is another cert to come in when fit. I really think we are too good for division 4. While solidity is key I really hope we arnt too overly defensive and invite teams onto us. Carlow commentators were complaining about our fouling, however cynicism is a necessity, I just hope we can continue to express ourselves at the scoring end when we take the lead.

Most positive the football team has been in a while, long may it continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 01, 2016, 09:33:31 PM
Championship draw made and looks like there is the possibility of another Cargin Gall's final, unless ........... :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on February 01, 2016, 09:50:29 PM
That is a good draw a lot of good games there could be same final as last year!😜😜😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2016, 09:49:45 AM
Jeez has everybody gone away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 07, 2016, 11:50:21 AM
Today is a good test to see where we are at. Wexford have promotion aspirations too so there mightnt be much in it but these are the games we need to learn how to win. Especially at home. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 07, 2016, 02:59:44 PM
Ant 0-07 Wex 0-04 HT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 07, 2016, 03:40:51 PM
Result Antrim 1-08 Wex 0-07. Good win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2016, 04:49:23 PM
Good result at Corrigan, but we sure made it hard.
Hate to be gurning the victory, but why did we take up the defensive stance in the second half and invite them on to us?
We had the big breeze behind and a lead and obviousl a better team but the change of tactic nearly cost us ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2016, 10:40:19 AM
Firstly, great to dig out any sort of victory that keeps our promotion hopes alive. We arnt playing that well and still picking up points so I will keep a few concerns I have about this "style" of ours to myself.

Is it fair to say that Niblock was our only real standout player on the day? What a player. In my book he's our very best player (or put another way the only one we could truly not do without) with a bit of competition from Ryan Murray who can be almost unmarkable at times too. Can't understand why he is getting such little game time tbh!

Leitrim up next and that will be just another similar dogfight. No one needs to start getting cocky just yet or it could come back to bite us.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 08, 2016, 11:33:56 AM
perhaps a wee bit of overegging regarding Niblock there but true he is a quality player when he is on form.  certainly wouldn't say he is our best though. the 'bull in the china shop' analogy certainly fits him. Ryan Murray is a real livewire but like Niblock, his decision making is erratic. well overdue a couple of starts to get into rhythm. 2nd half a grind yesterday but eventually got there.  still on track for promotion and yet to find top gear is a decent place to be in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 09, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
Any word on the fixtures? Becoming slightly irritated at this stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2016, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 09, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
Any word on the fixtures? Becoming slightly irritated at this stage

This was one of the jobs that the new administration hadnt catered for and no one wanted. Wonder is that the reason for the delay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2016, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2016, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 09, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
Any word on the fixtures? Becoming slightly irritated at this stage

This was one of the jobs that the new administration hadnt catered for and no one wanted. Wonder is that the reason for the delay.

The dates are out there and everyone knows who is in their leagues, no? I'd say with the leagues starting earlier than normal this is possibly one of the reasons as to why it seems late... Any idea as to when they came out last year? Why people get in a tissy over this is beyond me, teams should be preparing for the league and the start dates are there... unless people are booking stag and hen weekends and they don't want to miss certain games  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on February 09, 2016, 02:27:29 PM
after 2 wins out of 2, we cant have any complaints, yes you would like the football to be better but it is still winter football.

some things never change in this county, ppl complained about the fixtures last year, now this year before a ball is even kicked they are complaining again!! if u knew what all was involved in putting them together. everyone knows the start dates, which your clubs agreed.

on another note, its great to c mibags mate back involved again, obviously too much time on his hands after retiring from refereeing. no doubt he will right all the wrongs he pointed out in a local paper before his retirement. dont worry he wouldnt be one to hold a grudge so he wouldnt lol
funny how they make up positions for some ppl and saffron vision gave off about career gaa men, seems to me that there r plenty of hangers on in their camp who want to be involved but dont want to do a job. fixtures and ccc is one such example.

but sure its early days, give them a chance!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2016, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on February 09, 2016, 02:27:29 PM
after 2 wins out of 2, we cant have any complaints, yes you would like the football to be better but it is still winter football.

some things never change in this county, ppl complained about the fixtures last year, now this year before a ball is even kicked they are complaining again!! if u knew what all was involved in putting them together. everyone knows the start dates, which your clubs agreed.

on another note, its great to c mibags mate back involved again, obviously too much time on his hands after retiring from refereeing. no doubt he will right all the wrongs he pointed out in a local paper before his retirement. dont worry he wouldnt be one to hold a grudge so he wouldnt lol
funny how they make up positions for some ppl and saffron vision gave off about career gaa men, seems to me that there r plenty of hangers on in their camp who want to be involved but dont want to do a job. fixtures and ccc is one such example.

but sure its early days, give them a chance!

Is this not the issue?

Not that I am overly worried, but it was one weakness to the Saffron vision move.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 09, 2016, 11:29:03 PM
I see the yellowbellies manager giving out about our physicality. Slap it into them I say, being nice won't get us out of division 4. Pushovers no longer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 PM
What's the development going on in Woodlands?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 10, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 PM
What's the development going on in Woodlands?

New 4g pitch where Eire Og pitch was, new changing pavilion also. Looks a great job, dont know will Eire Og be using this pitch for games? Are you allowed to have a 4g pitch as your home pitch? i think Pearses and Ardoyne are using the new pitch at the cricky?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 10, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 10, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 PM
What's the development going on in Woodlands?

New 4g pitch where Eire Og pitch was, new changing pavilion also. Looks a great job, dont know will Eire Og be using this pitch for games? Are you allowed to have a 4g pitch as your home pitch? i think Pearses and Ardoyne are using the new pitch at the cricky?

Don't think it was ever nor will be Eire Og's pitch you will probably find that on City Council/ Antrim booking forms other clubs such as st johns or Mitchels  booked woodlands as much if not a lot more than Eire Og. should be ok for game use though as it is full size as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 10, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 10, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 10, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 PM
What's the development going on in Woodlands?

New 4g pitch where Eire Og pitch was, new changing pavilion also. Looks a great job, dont know will Eire Og be using this pitch for games? Are you allowed to have a 4g pitch as your home pitch? i think Pearses and Ardoyne are using the new pitch at the cricky?

Don't think it was ever nor will be Eire Og's pitch you will probably find that on City Council/ Antrim booking forms other clubs such as st johns or Mitchels  booked woodlands as much if not a lot more than Eire Og. should be ok for game use though as it is full size as far as I can see.

Was just saying it was 'their' pitch in that they use it as a home pitch, was just using their name to state which pitch it was in woodlands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2016, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 10, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 10, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 10, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 09, 2016, 11:48:32 PM
What's the development going on in Woodlands?

New 4g pitch where Eire Og pitch was, new changing pavilion also. Looks a great job, dont know will Eire Og be using this pitch for games? Are you allowed to have a 4g pitch as your home pitch? i think Pearses and Ardoyne are using the new pitch at the cricky?

Don't think it was ever nor will be Eire Og's pitch you will probably find that on City Council/ Antrim booking forms other clubs such as st johns or Mitchels  booked woodlands as much if not a lot more than Eire Og. should be ok for game use though as it is full size as far as I can see.

Was just saying it was 'their' pitch in that they use it as a home pitch, was just using their name to state which pitch it was in woodlands.

Their neighbours jealous? Be a good job when complete.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 10, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
Aggies surely have to book their pitch aswell gizzy as its council owned aswell? Strange Mitchell's Eire og and st Johns Have to book the top pitch whilst Aggies get exclusive rights to the bottom council pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 10, 2016, 07:18:01 PM
Can anyone list the full sized 3G pitches available to book in and around Belfast? I hear the Valley out in Newtownabbey has one

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2016, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 10, 2016, 07:18:01 PM
Can anyone list the full sized 3G pitches available to book in and around Belfast? I hear the Valley out in Newtownabbey has one

St Mary's college Falls road?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 11, 2016, 10:16:56 AM
The Cat has got gizzys toungue it seems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on February 11, 2016, 12:03:14 PM
Took the school team to that one in the valley recently. Big pitch and surface in great condition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on February 11, 2016, 06:41:09 PM
St.Dominics you mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 13, 2016, 06:13:27 PM
The Johnnies come good in the end........what a come back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 21, 2016, 09:43:01 AM
Whens the leagues starting, is it last weekend in March?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 21, 2016, 06:30:35 PM
6th March for division 3 anyway as the fixtures are out. Quite early, county board could have given more notice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 22, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 11, 2016, 10:16:56 AM
The Cat has got gizzys toungue it seems

no, just haven't logged in for a few days. and no, Aggies don't  have to book their council owned pitch. more like a long term lease, they pay for and manage the upkeep of the ground, fencing ball catchers and cutting the pitch etc. a yearly fee i think, but work for both parties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 22, 2016, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 22, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 11, 2016, 10:16:56 AM
The Cat has got gizzys toungue it seems

no, just haven't logged in for a few days. and no, Aggies don't  have to book their council owned pitch. more like a long term lease, they pay for and manage the upkeep of the ground, fencing ball catchers and cutting the pitch etc. a yearly fee i think, but work for both parties.

Been a few years since I've been at Woodlands but I always remember how well presented and maintained the pitch was. Only thing was the trek from the changing rooms!! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 22, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 21, 2016, 09:43:01 AM
Whens the leagues starting, is it last weekend in March?

Wed 6th April last I heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 22, 2016, 04:28:03 PM
I dare say it works more for the Aggies than both parties as Aggies are the only ones with access to the pitch. Strange Eire og, St. John's and Mitchell's have to go through a booking process as you said yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 22, 2016, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 22, 2016, 04:28:03 PM
I dare say it works more for the Aggies than both parties as Aggies are the only ones with access to the pitch. Strange Eire og, St. John's and Mitchell's have to go through a booking process as you said yourself.

TBF i agree with Grizzy, As far as i know aggies actually have a groundsman who looks after their pitch and do all the maintenance to it as well as supplying the catch nets etc. if you seriously have a gripe with a club who are trying to secure their own grounds for their teams to compete on then i dont know. I'm sure if the clubs you mentioned went with a viable proposal to the council it would be considered too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 22, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
The gripe I have is with Grizzys initial comment in regards to Eire og especially as he knows well they use it more than Mitchell's or St. John's and historically have had more juveniles than his own club although they are amalagamated at juvenile underage nowadays. Other clubs have in fact went with plans to the county about provision of pitches, just felt his initial comments smacked of begrudgery
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2016, 06:52:10 PM
So the master fixture list for the year is completed. Let the games begin!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 23, 2016, 12:14:09 AM
Who won u21 ulster final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 23, 2016, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2016, 06:52:10 PM
So the master fixture list for the year is completed. Let the games begin!

What's the confirmed Start dates for div 1 & 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 23, 2016, 07:23:31 AM
Quote from: Gold on February 23, 2016, 12:14:09 AM
Who won u21 ulster final?

Glen - handy enough.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/02/22/news/glen-retain-paddy-mclarnon-cup-with-win-over-st-john-s-426035/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2016, 07:44:02 AM
Sunday 10th April starts div 1 and 2 football, Stiffler. Their reserve teams are out a few weeks before that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 23, 2016, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 23, 2016, 07:44:02 AM
Sunday 10th April starts div 1 and 2 football, Stiffler. Their reserve teams are out a few weeks before that.

Cheers BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 25, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
Can somebody please enlighten me what happens after 'the split'. I understand that the top section will be in competition as to the winners of the division.....but as to the second section are they only on striving to avoid relegation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2016, 10:30:54 PM
Yes that's it in a nutshell CB.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 25, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
Can somebody please enlighten me what happens after 'the split'. I understand that the top section will be in competition as to the winners of the division.....but as to the second section are they only on striving to avoid relegation?

If it goes anything like the hurling did, the teams in the top section will down tools in preparation for the Championship and you will end up with a lot of dud matches with everyone resting up their players.

All depends on timing of the games as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 26, 2016, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 26, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 25, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
Can somebody please enlighten me what happens after 'the split'. I understand that the top section will be in competition as to the winners of the division.....but as to the second section are they only on striving to avoid relegation?

If it goes anything like the hurling did, the teams in the top section will down tools in preparation for the Championship and you will end up with a lot of dud matches with everyone resting up their players.

All depends on timing of the games as well.

On the plus side, it kept Sarsfields in Division 2!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 28, 2016, 08:27:10 AM
Another two points on offer today. Must be winning the home games if we see ourselves going into division three next year. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 28, 2016, 12:54:04 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 26, 2016, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 26, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 25, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
Can somebody please enlighten me what happens after 'the split'. I understand that the top section will be in competition as to the winners of the division.....but as to the second section are they only on striving to avoid relegation?

If it goes anything like the hurling did, the teams in the top section will down tools in preparation for the Championship and you will end up with a lot of dud matches with everyone resting up their players.

All depends on timing of the games as well.

On the plus side, it kept Sarsfields in Division 2!


And?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 28, 2016, 05:40:18 PM
Two good points and nice to show a bit of character when 5 down amd things looking bleak. The team now know they can do that so that's mentally in the locker too for another day.

Had we been 6 up we might have retreated into a protective shell like Carlow and Wexford match, inviting them onto us and left us hanging on by our fingertips.Being 5 down meant we had to attack the game and that suits us better with so many quality players. Let's trust them please. Today we opened up on the front foot and the team looked good and the crowd liked it too. 2.14 a good return. The crowd will come and support this. Management will have noted this too, so all in all a good day at the office. Well done to all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 28, 2016, 07:33:15 PM
Great second half. We have some smashing footballers when they focus. Your boys played well today bannside, mckeever dominated midfield and delargy acquitted himself superbly. Best on the park was James Laverty was best player on the park he seemed to be everywhere and Tomas tortured them. Bams goal at the end was icing on the cake, he oozes class.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Erinlong on February 28, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
Great second half. Some great play and hard work. Key moments in the game came from N Delargy turn over which lead to Tomas goal. That turned the game.
Second half Antrim came out with a renewed confidence and started to play.
Antrim have the forwards midfield and defence if the focus stays.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 29, 2016, 12:32:28 AM
James Laverty was fantastic today Saffronheart. He threw the shackles off (and Kobo too) when we needed leaders to stand up and say let's have a rattle here. Remember we were five down and could have been ten down due to their wastefulness. I saw James and Kobo leading the charge from the front when others were thinking about it.

Niall Mc Keevers importance to the team cannot be over emphasised
Undoubtedly our first phase winner in the midfield area. And he can play ball too now. No wastefulness and a vital asset to us. Class act on and off the pitch.

Erinlong you're right. Niall Delargy wrapped his man up and came out with a ball he had no right to win and set up an attack that led to Tomas goal. Small margins but we'll spotted. Lots of good players in that squad and little between many of them.  Challenge for management is to manage the squad not just the 15. But the players are reacting to a good set up which is 100% better than last year and as Antrim men we should place our trust in players and management to get us over the div 4 line.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 29, 2016, 12:57:59 AM
We have quality forwards but need to cut them loose. Tomas is on fire and in this form is unstoppable. Throw in Ryan Murray and I'm putting anything I have on the line and say he's one of the best in Ulster. All day long. Niblock is already there - our colossus. And Bam could torture the best corner back in the land if the mood suits. That's just four class acts. There's another half a dozen in the squad. All they need is the confidence to go out and do it. But my fear is we are thinking defence first when we have the ammunition to really hurt teams when we go for the jugular!

Trust our forwards. These boys could open up any defence in the country on their day.  Do we really need to be thinking about getting a few points in front and putting 14 behind the ball??

Personally I'd see that as not playing to our strengths. Hey but that's just me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 01, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
Lads, who's managing who this year? Hearing some clubs handing out plenty of ££££££

O`Donovan Rossa
Creggan Kickhams
Clan na hEireann Carragan
Lamh Dhearg
Naomh Gall
Naomh Treasa CLG /St Teresa's GAC
St Brigids GAC
Roger Casements Portglenone
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille
St John's GAC
Naomh Seamas
All Saints Ballymena
Con Magees   
Cuchullains-Dunloy   
Michael Davitts   
Naomh Seosamh/St Joseph's   
Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls GAC   
St Mary's Rasharkin   
St. Mary's G.A.C. Aghagallon   
St Ergnat's Moneyglass   
Naomh Éanna   
Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields   
Gort na Móna CLG   
Tír Na nÓg Randalstown

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 02, 2016, 04:03:56 PM
Aghagallon same as last year.  Clubmen and ex-players.

No-one's getting paid. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.

Bradley hardly coaching for the sake of it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
I see london are preparing for the physical challenge we will give them lol. First time in my life under these new management we've been described as physical.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 03, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
I see london are preparing for the physical challenge we will give them lol. First time in my life under these new management we've been described as physical.

We need to be.. and cynical too

Take fermanagh against Armagh the other night....Fermanagh equalised 10 seconds before 3 minutes of injury time was over. ...Armagh keeper immediately hit the kick out short to an Armagh defender ...a Fermanagh player had a chance to stop the armagh player, to take him down or whatever but opted to try and make a fair tackle...the armagh player breezed past him and after a few passes the ball was over the bar and Armagh won. .....my point being I was thinking Antrim would probably do the same thing as that Fermanagh player (far too nice/naive ). Had it been the other end of the field an Armagh man would've dragged the man down (or fouled him).

We need to be more physical and cynical
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.

Bradley hardly coaching for the sake of it?

hes an outside coach, players fund raise to cover it themselves. Club doesnt pay a penny. Same policy for all outside coaching in the club. we will never pay anyone to mange any team at our club at any grade or code.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 03, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 03, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.

Bradley hardly coaching for the sake of it?

hes an outside coach, players fund raise to cover it themselves. Club doesnt pay a penny. Same policy for all outside coaching in the club. we will never pay anyone to mange any team at our club at any grade or code.

Firstly im not saying its the wrong thing to do, but is it not the same thing as paying the manager/coach, where the funds come from is irrelevant, most clubs would say they don't pay as they run a draw, members subscription, outside funder/donor or whatever way they want to raise the funds. just because its not a direct payment from club account its still a payment. I have no problem with it happening as I feel every club is entitled to run as they see fit but I just think your first quote was one on a moral high ground then followed with a "yes, but" answer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 03, 2016, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.

Bradley hardly coaching for the sake of it?

I'm led to believe he is (bar minimal expenses provided to him rather than being 'sought'). Friends with the Manager, not 100% commitment expected but enjoys playing a part. Comes across as a really good fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 03, 2016, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 03, 2016, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.

Bradley hardly coaching for the sake of it?

I'm led to believe he is (bar minimal expenses provided to him rather than being 'sought'). Friends with the Manager, not 100% commitment expected but enjoys playing a part. Comes across as a really good fella.


I've met him a few times, he is a gent. Really genuine chap.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 03, 2016, 11:57:20 AM
Dunloy must be commended for getting their act together. I think they'll stay up this year also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2016, 02:29:31 PM
they have d
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 03, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 03, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 01, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
our manager is the same as last year, Dominic Dillon. He doesnt get paid, like all the managers in our club.

Bradley hardly coaching for the sake of it?

hes an outside coach, players fund raise to cover it themselves. Club doesnt pay a penny. Same policy for all outside coaching in the club. we will never pay anyone to mange any team at our club at any grade or code.

Firstly im not saying its the wrong thing to do, but is it not the same thing as paying the manager/coach, where the funds come from is irrelevant, most clubs would say they don't pay as they run a draw, members subscription, outside funder/donor or whatever way they want to raise the funds. just because its not a direct payment from club account its still a payment. I have no problem with it happening as I feel every club is entitled to run as they see fit but I just think your first quote was one on a moral high ground then followed with a "yes, but" answer.

Its not the moral high ground anything, we wont ever, nor ever will pay anyone to manage our club. simple as. If a manager brings an outside element in to help them with the coaching and sorts the payment out thats an entirely different entity. Its up to them to sort that out, manage and organise the funding. the club will not help out only other than to say hold the money for safe keeping etc. I personally think its grand to do that, i would however object to anyone getting money for managing a team. It would be sad day when that happened to us.

No one gets paid in the club, not even the bar staff who work the social club at night and im one of them clowns! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 03, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on March 03, 2016, 11:57:20 AM
Dunloy must be commended for getting their act together. I think they'll stay up this year also.

Depending on availability of the hurlers I think they might. Good to see a club taking a chance on a young hometown manager and not some outsider.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2016, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on March 03, 2016, 11:57:20 AM
Dunloy must be commended for getting their act together. I think they'll stay up this year also.

I have to agree, Dominic came in a has the respect of the players from day one. He took an interest in the minor and u16 straight away and watches them non stop. Hes done a brilliant job since taking over and asking his friend Paddy along to help out when he could was a great move.

Lets be honest football was dying a slow death in dunloy and hes gave a kick up the arse that it needed. Were back in div1 in u16 & minor this year again which is another indication of the progress thats been made. We have one lad on the county minor panel in Conor Ferris which is the first in a long while for the club.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on March 05, 2016, 08:50:04 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 03, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
I see london are preparing for the physical challenge we will give them lol. First time in my life under these new management we've been described as physical.

We need to be.. and cynical too

Take fermanagh against Armagh the other night....Fermanagh equalised 10 seconds before 3 minutes of injury time was over. ...Armagh keeper immediately hit the kick out short to an Armagh defender ...a Fermanagh player had a chance to stop the armagh player, to take him down or whatever but opted to try and make a fair tackle...the armagh player breezed past him and after a few passes the ball was over the bar and Armagh won. .....my point being I was thinking Antrim would probably do the same thing as that Fermanagh player (far too nice/naive ). Had it been the other end of the field an Armagh man would've dragged the man down (or fouled him).

We need to be more physical and cynical


yeah, this is some attitude to promote within our amateur sporting culture, especially with developing children and young impressionable players, and I'm not talking about being physical, I'm talking about you promoting cheating, plain and simple.

speaks volumes, some gold values here, more like pyrite  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: bogieman on March 05, 2016, 08:50:04 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 03, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
I see london are preparing for the physical challenge we will give them lol. First time in my life under these new management we've been described as physical.

We need to be.. and cynical too

Take fermanagh against Armagh the other night....Fermanagh equalised 10 seconds before 3 minutes of injury time was over. ...Armagh keeper immediately hit the kick out short to an Armagh defender ...a Fermanagh player had a chance to stop the armagh player, to take him down or whatever but opted to try and make a fair tackle...the armagh player breezed past him and after a few passes the ball was over the bar and Armagh won. .....my point being I was thinking Antrim would probably do the same thing as that Fermanagh player (far too nice/naive ). Had it been the other end of the field an Armagh man would've dragged the man down (or fouled him).

We need to be more physical and cynical


yeah, this is some attitude to promote within our amateur sporting culture, especially with developing children and young impressionable players, and I'm not talking about being physical, I'm talking about you promoting cheating, plain and simple.

speaks volumes, some gold values here, more like pyrite  ;)

You ever foul on a match?? Did you think you cheated??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on March 05, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: bogieman on March 05, 2016, 08:50:04 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 03, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
I see london are preparing for the physical challenge we will give them lol. First time in my life under these new management we've been described as physical.

We need to be.. and cynical too

Take fermanagh against Armagh the other night....Fermanagh equalised 10 seconds before 3 minutes of injury time was over. ...Armagh keeper immediately hit the kick out short to an Armagh defender ...a Fermanagh player had a chance to stop the armagh player, to take him down or whatever but opted to try and make a fair tackle...the armagh player breezed past him and after a few passes the ball was over the bar and Armagh won. .....my point being I was thinking Antrim would probably do the same thing as that Fermanagh player (far too nice/naive ). Had it been the other end of the field an Armagh man would've dragged the man down (or fouled him).

We need to be more physical and cynical


yeah, this is some attitude to promote within our amateur sporting culture, especially with developing children and young impressionable players, and I'm not talking about being physical, I'm talking about you promoting cheating, plain and simple.

speaks volumes, some gold values here, more like pyrite  ;)

You ever foul on a match?? Did you think you cheated??

You appear to be actually condoning the 'promotion' of cheating  :-\
Look in the mirror and listen for the crack of doom...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: bogieman on March 05, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: bogieman on March 05, 2016, 08:50:04 AM
Quote from: Gold on March 03, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
I see london are preparing for the physical challenge we will give them lol. First time in my life under these new management we've been described as physical.

We need to be.. and cynical too

Take fermanagh against Armagh the other night....Fermanagh equalised 10 seconds before 3 minutes of injury time was over. ...Armagh keeper immediately hit the kick out short to an Armagh defender ...a Fermanagh player had a chance to stop the armagh player, to take him down or whatever but opted to try and make a fair tackle...the armagh player breezed past him and after a few passes the ball was over the bar and Armagh won. .....my point being I was thinking Antrim would probably do the same thing as that Fermanagh player (far too nice/naive ). Had it been the other end of the field an Armagh man would've dragged the man down (or fouled him).

We need to be more physical and cynical


yeah, this is some attitude to promote within our amateur sporting culture, especially with developing children and young impressionable players, and I'm not talking about being physical, I'm talking about you promoting cheating, plain and simple.

speaks volumes, some gold values here, more like pyrite  ;)

You ever foul on a match?? Did you think you cheated??

You appear to be actually condoning the 'promotion' of cheating  :-\
Look in the mirror and listen for the crack of doom...

It's a simple enough question... Its either yes or no
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 06, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
Don't think that answer is forthcoming MR! Anyways, another 2 points in our charge to get out of the basement. Didn't make it over but will get the lowdown on it shortly.

A long day for players up since 5am to get ready and off to the airport. Not ideal for optimum performance but job done and congrats to all involved. Chris the only keeper in the league not to concede a goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2016, 07:37:13 PM
A good result for us with louth getting beat too bs. At least gives us some wiggle room for a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
Don't think that answer is forthcoming MR! Anyways, another 2 points in our charge to get out of the basement. Didn't make it over but will get the lowdown on it shortly.

A long day for players up since 5am to get ready and off to the airport. Not ideal for optimum performance but job done and congrats to all involved. Chris the only keeper in the league not to concede a goal.

Nope doesn't seem to be coming.... Hopefully he wasn't watching the Kerry game  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 06, 2016, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
Don't think that answer is forthcoming MR! Anyways, another 2 points in our charge to get out of the basement. Didn't make it over but will get the lowdown on it shortly.

A long day for players up since 5am to get ready and off to the airport. Not ideal for optimum performance but job done and congrats to all involved. Chris the only keeper in the league not to concede a goal.

Why did they not fly over yesterday? That's a long day to be messing about before a football game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 06, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
Hurlers getting to stay over too... footballers still unbeaten great to see. Would be fantastic if we could go through the whole league unbeaten, it is well within this teams remit. Waterford at home up next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on March 08, 2016, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
Don't think that answer is forthcoming MR! Anyways, another 2 points in our charge to get out of the basement. Didn't make it over but will get the lowdown on it shortly.

A long day for players up since 5am to get ready and off to the airport. Not ideal for optimum performance but job done and congrats to all involved. Chris the only keeper in the league not to concede a goal.

Nope doesn't seem to be coming.... Hopefully he wasn't watching the Kerry game  ::)

Are you guys actually waiting for an answer to a rhetorical question ?

May as well ask "Does anything eat wasps ?" and open a discussion on stupid birds...
"How long can you live on beer ?", now that's a question to improve our wisdom.
Cheating is wrong, plain and simple.
'nuff said on this for me  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2016, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: bogieman on March 08, 2016, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
Don't think that answer is forthcoming MR! Anyways, another 2 points in our charge to get out of the basement. Didn't make it over but will get the lowdown on it shortly.

A long day for players up since 5am to get ready and off to the airport. Not ideal for optimum performance but job done and congrats to all involved. Chris the only keeper in the league not to concede a goal.

Nope doesn't seem to be coming.... Hopefully he wasn't watching the Kerry game  ::)

Are you guys actually waiting for an answer to a rhetorical question ?

May as well ask "Does anything eat wasps ?" and open a discussion on stupid birds...
"How long can you live on beer ?", now that's a question to improve our wisdom.
Cheating is wrong, plain and simple.
'nuff said on this for me  :-X

You ever foul in a match?? is that easy enough to answer then? 

I believe you are avoiding the question
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 08, 2016, 03:25:09 PM
How will our 21s fare against Derry..........have we any chance at all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on March 08, 2016, 04:07:08 PM
Wouldn't think we have much of a chance although would love to be proven wrong. While we seem to be able to win matches at the minor grade and at least be competitive, I cant remember when the last time was that we won a match in the Ulster U-21 championship. Don't think the preparations have been helped by Johnnies involvement in the Ulster club U-21 although as far as know most of their U-21 team is now overage and of those eligible Conor Johnston is not making himself available due to hurling. Think St. Enda's seem to have the biggest representation along with Aghagallon. Maybe they'll be helped by the fact that they have their own management team this year in Gerard McNulty and Sean McGoldrick whereas in the past few years they've just trained with the seniors. We live in hope. Just a pity its up in Derry as it's a long journey for any city based supporters midweek.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
We beat Fermanagh by 12 points in the first round in 2006. That was the last time we won.  Came close two years ago by drawing with Armagh but lost the replay. Will head up tomorrow more in hope than in expectation.

Derry have a few live wire corner forwards in Niall Loughlin and Niall Toner. Corner backs need to be on their toes with a good reader playing in front of them cutting our the supply.  Easier said than done! I'd have seen them both playing loads of times from juvenile up. They are both on the Derry senior panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 08, 2016, 07:56:53 PM
Has the u21 line up been announced as yet ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2016, 09:03:49 PM
Just saw the Derry team there. If we get matched up properly I don't think we will be far away. Good luck to all in Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
Antrim team not picked yet Stiffler. Looks like they are leaving it until tomorrow night. Should be interesting!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 08, 2016, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 08, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
Antrim team not picked yet Stiffler. Looks like they are leaving it until tomorrow night. Should be interesting!

Not overly!

NO WIN IN TEN YEARS!

Beat Fermanagh in 06. Beat Armagh in 03...cannot remember the last win before that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 10, 2016, 10:10:15 AM
Anybody at the Under 21 match last night, seems like we mounted a spirited comeback but just left too much to do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2016, 11:13:30 AM
Yes I was at it. What kind of feedback would you like? I could give you "Eternal Optimist". I could give you "Brutally Honest" or I could give you "Another Wasted Year". I could give you "Level 2 coach" perspective. I could give you the "what we need to do to be competitive at this level" answer...having been part of the management when we last won a game at this level in 2006. I can offer that as we got it right in 06. The year before we didnt and got what we deserved. There is a huge difference.

Does anyone REALLY care? There might have been 50 Antrim supporters there last night, mostly enthusiastic parents who wouldnt be there otherwise. Credit to all the players who kept plugging to the end. Some did well enough over the hour and others were blatantly out of their depth. I wont name names as thats cheap and nasty on a public forum.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 10, 2016, 12:53:12 PM
Id like the brutally honest one if its available, I was playing a challenge match last night for my club otherwise I would have attended as well, I have played at that level before and appreciate that support bar parents is often fleeting so try and get where possible.

From what I can see its seemed a relatively young team which could possibly bode well for the future, I'd also have thought looking through the substitutes that Conall Delargy and Padraig Mackle would have been worth there place both consistent performers for their respective club sides. Then again its possible they weren't going well at training or what not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 01:04:53 PM
Gotta agree with BS............and the old adage, 'fail to prepare, prepare to fail' does spring to mind.
Derry via Mc Cusker and Muldoon, had trial games to enlighten as to potential over the winter months and involved around 100 players to come up with their panel, and then proceeded to have several challenge games in preparation.
Were Derry superior as the Irish News as their intrepid reporter Mr Mullan would suggest..........Sure the Dungiven based Mullan is and has always been completely unbiased.......... :-\
We all welcomed the new regime in our county with three loud cheers, but hey the senior footballers having to get up in the middle of the night for a trip to London and expected to perform and the production of an under-21 team which was quite obviously lacking in preparation for the task demanded in championship fare may give hint that nothing changes in our county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2016, 02:35:48 PM
Brutally honest Id be wary of Points... because to do so would undermine the efforts of management and players who were all out there doing their best. But I will make a few points that are fairly obvious.

Firstly we were well beaten off the pitch. Derry have made U-21 football some kind of priority. They are investing in it. They have a director of football (Brian Mc Ivor) and all the components in place for a well oiled machine. They have a sponsor who punts in large money to back up their strategic plan. We dont have a plan. Any plan.

They have stats men, GPS cardio tracking, food after training, coaches from Belfast twice weekly to and from Owenbeg. They have gear for 40 players. They have three county players (legends) along the line. They had no less than 15 challenge games plus their "in house games" which were every bit as competitive amongst probables and possibles. All opportunities to develop a system of play.

We had nothing like this, not even close. In fact allowing for all this we got within 5 points, which tells me this might have been another one that got away. We lost 4 players to work commitments or injury.  I know one player who walked off the panel because of what he called a St Endas love in. He predicted what was coming down the track. Six players from a club that was a kick of a ball away from  playing division three this year is not going at all down easily amongst quite a few of the players who felt they were overlooked.

You mentioned Conall Delargy and Paudie Mackle. I dont know how on earth Mackle didnt start the game. Thats a personal opinion. He got three or four minutes at the end. A pure insult to the lad. Conall Delargy had treatment for an ankle injury and was told he was starting but felt he wasnt going well in the warm up and was honest enough to say that. Has a match for the club tonight and will sit that out too.

So...where do we go from here. No point in blaming the new Board. They have other priorities and we can only assume some kind of football review is imminent. If not we will bring it to their table. No point in blaming management - they put their hands up at least and gave it their best shot. No point in blaming the players - they know what the Derry players were getting and stuck with it manfully. The truth is we should blame OURSELVES.

What we need is a plan solely for football development. A specific appointment like Brian Mc Ivor (an Antrim man) to oversee it. A business community (or at least individuals) to get behind it. A committee to oversee essential criteria before making managerial appointments. A check list from county board in terms of essential support.

This is OUR priority. We`re to blame. We have to fix it.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 10, 2016, 04:10:31 PM
Bannside when you see it down there in black and white its frightening how far behind we are in terms of preparation if even we could obtain half of the professionalism of other set ups to begin with we would surely improve.

Your comment that resonates most with me is in terms of the Derry management, as you rightly say 3 Derry 'legends', now I don't personally know the Antrim management team and am in no way trying to devalue their contribution but why is it that Ex Antrim players don't want to be or aren't asked to be involved with our teams. Gearoid as we are all aware is in with the Seniors and I know Sean Kelly and Terry O'Neill are in with the development squads but surely they are many more out there who's expertise we could be availing of? How do we get them interested and on board?

Sponsorship is massive as well, its takes alot of money to run successful county teams how to we make ourselves a more attractive sponsorship opportunity, if I was a successful businessman with a pot of cash ready to invest in sponsorship I would not be running to the county board with it as it is not a sensible investment right now, what with Casement and Dunsilly amongst other matters most press about Antrim GAA lately has been negative.

Whilst you are spot on about a Director of Football and a Football specific committee with the best will in the world these things will not happen without the proper resources and will again come down to money to implement proper structures.

On the current committee I think given time they will resolve alot of these issues and start to push us in the right direction again the main problem I see is that they are having to pool so many of their resources and experience into Casement etc that Football and Hurling at both senior and developmental stage are down the list of things to do.

On the playing side of things id commend Conall Delargy for being honest enough to withdraw as many would have tried to plod on to the detriment of themselves and the team. Ive seen Mackle play many times and is right up their with the best Under 21's in the county in my opinion. On the St Endas issue I dont know all the lads so cant comment on their indivdual abilities but it would be worrying if we are losing players to perceived favoritism within squads.

All in all another disappointing result that will no doubt just become another statistic next year, no Under 21 wins in 11 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2016, 05:30:22 PM
Cant argue with any of that Points. I have a lot of faith in the personnel on the new regime and its only fair to recognise that they have a lot of priorities right now and how we play football in three or four years is not anywhere near the top of that list.

I have had a chat with one or two of them informally and I do believe there can be a meeting of minds to kick start something in the not too distant future. So we can keep our eyes on that. But ultimately, this needs to be instigated so thats a plan of sorts at the minute.

Re selection, if our system allows two selectors out of three to come from St Endas, and those selectors have been associated with those same St Endas players since under fourteens, then we get what we deserve. I dont blame the players. All they want to do is play. I blame the system. But its heartbreaking to see such blatant favouritism at that level. Unbelievable really. Everyone I spoke to after the match was talking about it, even Derry men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2016, 05:30:22 PM
Cant argue with any of that Points. I have a lot of faith in the personnel on the new regime and its only fair to recognise that they have a lot of priorities right now and how we play football in three or four years is not anywhere near the top of that list.

I have had a chat with one or two of them informally and I do believe there can be a meeting of minds to kick start something in the not too distant future. So we can keep our eyes on that. But ultimately, this needs to be instigated so thats a plan of sorts at the minute.

Re selection, if our system allows two selectors out of three to come from St Endas, and those selectors have been associated with those same St Endas players since under fourteens, then we get what we deserve. I dont blame the players. All they want to do is play. I blame the system. But its heartbreaking to see such blatant favouritism at that level. Unbelievable really. Everyone I spoke to after the match was talking about it, even Derry men.

What was the score lines the last few years against Derry, in general at most levels?? My point is if the best managers in Ireland took the Antrim teams we'd still get what we deserve... No prep no wins, regardless of who the mangers are or if they are mainly from one club....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
As I said MR2 and daring to repeat the words of Mr Franklin....Failing to prepare etc, and not getting at management facilities for training in our county are just non-existent............Jeez we haven't got a county ground to facilitate at present and those clubs like ourselves are quite unable to lend/hire our floodlit training grounds as there is a huge demand from within.
We have been leading a nomadic existence for as long as I can remember as far as training facilities go and perhaps such is a part of our general situation.
My own club has led the way in the provision of facilities within (two pitches, one with floodlighting, and an all weather astro turf facility) and perhaps such is a factor in why we have remained there or thereabouts for quite a time now ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
As I said MR2 and daring to repeat the words of Mr Franklin....Failing to prepare etc, and not getting at management facilities for training in our county are just non-existent............Jeez we haven't got a county ground to facilitate at present and those clubs like ourselves are quite unable to lend/hire our floodlit training grounds as there is a huge demand from within.
We have been leading a nomadic existence for as long as I can remember as far as training facilities go and perhaps such is a part of our general situation.
My own club has led the way in the provision of facilities within (two pitches, one with floodlighting, and an all weather astro turf facility) and perhaps such is a factor in why we have remained there or thereabouts for quite a time now ???

We've crap facilities and we've done alright  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
As I said MR2 and daring to repeat the words of Mr Franklin....Failing to prepare etc, and not getting at management facilities for training in our county are just non-existent............Jeez we haven't got a county ground to facilitate at present and those clubs like ourselves are quite unable to lend/hire our floodlit training grounds as there is a huge demand from within.
We have been leading a nomadic existence for as long as I can remember as far as training facilities go and perhaps such is a part of our general situation.
My own club has led the way in the provision of facilities within (two pitches, one with floodlighting, and an all weather astro turf facility) and perhaps such is a factor in why we have remained there or thereabouts for quite a time now ???

We've crap facilities and we've done alright  ;D

Aye but you've an Ulster select..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
As I said MR2 and daring to repeat the words of Mr Franklin....Failing to prepare etc, and not getting at management facilities for training in our county are just non-existent............Jeez we haven't got a county ground to facilitate at present and those clubs like ourselves are quite unable to lend/hire our floodlit training grounds as there is a huge demand from within.
We have been leading a nomadic existence for as long as I can remember as far as training facilities go and perhaps such is a part of our general situation.
My own club has led the way in the provision of facilities within (two pitches, one with floodlighting, and an all weather astro turf facility) and perhaps such is a factor in why we have remained there or thereabouts for quite a time now ???

We've crap facilities and we've done alright  ;D

Aye but you've an Ulster select..  ;)

Well if you believe that then you know nowt about us.... Look at your own club, everyone isn't without the odd outsider...  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2016, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
As I said MR2 and daring to repeat the words of Mr Franklin....Failing to prepare etc, and not getting at management facilities for training in our county are just non-existent............Jeez we haven't got a county ground to facilitate at present and those clubs like ourselves are quite unable to lend/hire our floodlit training grounds as there is a huge demand from within.
We have been leading a nomadic existence for as long as I can remember as far as training facilities go and perhaps such is a part of our general situation.
My own club has led the way in the provision of facilities within (two pitches, one with floodlighting, and an all weather astro turf facility) and perhaps such is a factor in why we have remained there or thereabouts for quite a time now ???

We've crap facilities and we've done alright  ;D

Aye but you've an Ulster select..  ;)

Well if you believe that then you know nowt about us.... Look at your own club, everyone isn't without the odd outsider...  ;D

I jest! Knew I'd get a reaction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2016, 07:11:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2016, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
As I said MR2 and daring to repeat the words of Mr Franklin....Failing to prepare etc, and not getting at management facilities for training in our county are just non-existent............Jeez we haven't got a county ground to facilitate at present and those clubs like ourselves are quite unable to lend/hire our floodlit training grounds as there is a huge demand from within.
We have been leading a nomadic existence for as long as I can remember as far as training facilities go and perhaps such is a part of our general situation.
My own club has led the way in the provision of facilities within (two pitches, one with floodlighting, and an all weather astro turf facility) and perhaps such is a factor in why we have remained there or thereabouts for quite a time now ???

We've crap facilities and we've done alright  ;D

Aye but you've an Ulster select..  ;)

Well if you believe that then you know nowt about us.... Look at your own club, everyone isn't without the odd outsider...  ;D

I jest! Knew I'd get a reaction.

You reacted first no? I also put up a smiley  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2016, 08:44:02 AM
Ive had quite a lot of personal feedback (phone calls etc) from the few paragraphs I put on here yesterday about the U-21 match. I had one communication from a St Endas clubman who I have a lot of time for, who thought I was a fair bit out of order.  Everyone else I spoke to, from three or four different clubs were either gobsmacked about Mackle, or how Cormac Murray wasnt even on the bench, or how such and such got game time ahead of someone else, or how come a certain player was roasted all night and wasnt taken off..... those were the recurring themes.

I should point out I am not attempting to minimize or downgrade the efforts of any player or any member of the management team. Everyone was doing their best on a far from level playing field from Derrys preparation, so getting within 5 points is testimony to a lot of good quality work going on, and I know for a fact the players liked Gerard Mc Nultys training.

There are lessons to be learned if we hope to close that five point gap. Thats my only real concern to be honest. Wednesday night has come and gone...how can it be improved for next year? Or we can gloss it all off and think were doing fine!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 11, 2016, 09:00:15 AM
Where there's a will there's a way to do many things bannside. In Antrim we run out of willing bodies just that bit quicker than any county I can think of. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
If there was an all ireland for apathy we would win hands down.

However I do believe Football People in the county need to stand up. Our budget allocation each year is traditionally much less than the hurlers. Why? And if the county was to invite a think tank to come up with a few recommendations or some meaningful plan that can be taken forward, then I do believe people would step up and come up with a plan that can be implemented. A plan that can be sold to a couple of dozen businesses.

That's basic stuff. But I do have some confidence an initiative like this is not too far away. But maybe it needs "bumped" a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 11, 2016, 04:53:58 PM
Agree with all you've said in the last few days. We need more football people as passionate as you to drive us on and you're completely right about the budgets. I feel it's because hurling people in Antrim are more passionate than us football men and want more for the team. We have unlimited potential in both codes it's really about commitment, we are great at making excuses in antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 11, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
Resources    every club pay £500 of their fees towards development squads. That a starting point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 11, 2016, 09:04:37 PM
As  an a side  to u21selection issue.  this is mirrored  in minors... two players retained as keepers    who arent actually gk.. makes  you wonder abt a lads commitment to the dev squads from u14 being overlooked.... and one of them is from the managers club.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 13, 2016, 04:50:17 PM
Big win today without getting out of second gear. One more win and we are there. I wasn't happy with Waterfords tackling, very dangerous. I hope Niblocks injury isn't as bad as first feared
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 14, 2016, 08:10:23 AM
Good win.
Waterford terrible and tackling hard ans dangerous.  Didnt take their defeat lying down sailing into our playerw, writing Niblock, McVeigh and McAleese off. Big units those Waterford boys but poor at football

Good performances throughout with O B oyle and Niblock class and Tomas McCann different class altogether.
Serious pace and the dry day with him at FF and the space in front of him suited him...was a joy to watch

Looks like still need at least one win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2016, 08:15:16 AM
If we beat Louth we're up. If we lose to Louth and beat wicklow then Wexford play Louth so that would be enough.  Louth game is at home which will hopefully help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2016, 08:52:43 AM
If we beat Wicklow we are up. For now thats all we need to focus on. Thats a massive task now going there, as its away from home and we have a lot of injuries to deal with, so this is far from done and dusted.

Terrific first fifteen minutes yesterday, as good as weve seen for a long time. Evidence of intense tackling at training going on and good link up play too. Waterford came to spoil as they werent able to offer anything from a football perspective. That killed the game off as a spectacle, but we were home and hosed by that stage. Plenty to like. Still plenty to do.

Big Ricky probably my MOM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 14, 2016, 11:35:25 AM
I had a notion beforehand that we might dish out a big defeat to Waterford, and it came to pass in the end after a shaky second quarter. While Tomas, Kevin Niblock, Ryan Murray and Bam catch the eye going forward, our defence seems as strong as it has been in a few seasons. No goals conceded isn't a coincidence, Waterford were smothered yesterday with the Johnstons, KOBO, Delargy, Conor Burke all showing really well. And Chris in goals is far and away the best keeper in the division and a few divisions above us too. I think we will get promoted and I hope to make it to the Wicklow game, then it's all about the summer.   

Hope the injured lads aren't too bad - we could do with as full a deck as possible for last two games. BTW - our bench is v strong too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2016, 04:38:16 PM
Fair play to Chris Kerr, thats a great statistic he has going. Was standing yesterday beside Mickey Mc Veigh from Ballymena (Seans Dad) and he turned round after about fifteen minutes and said "Thats some achievement from Chris Kerr - Oh I know I shouldnt say that it will probably put a curse on him now" and I said "Wait and see you`re going to jinx him now".

No joke, about thirty seconds later Chris pulled off a fantastic save to turn a goal bound shot round the post. We did some laughing. Mickey knew he had got out of jail! He hardly spoke for the rest of the match!

Our minor footballers had a rare five point victory over Tyrone in the minor league.  Carl Mc Cabe taking the training and its getting great feedback. U-17s got a bad drubbing though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 14, 2016, 05:57:46 PM
Good win.
Waterford terrible and tackling hard ans dangerous.  Didnt take their defeat lying down sailing into our playerw, writing Niblock, McVeigh and McAleese off. Big units those Waterford boys but poor at football

Good performances throughout with O B oyle and Niblock class and Tomas McCann different class altogether.
Serious pace and the dry day with him at FF and the space in front of him suited him...was a joy to watch

Looks like still need at least one win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 15, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
another good win at the weekend with the team slowly emerging with some good patterns of play and showed themselves to be the best team in the league (at present).  looking back at the u21s and the comments made, perhaps its time for us to put together a hit list of former respected, intelligent and well known former county men to participate in the management of teams.  Sometimes the kids just want to be taught by someone they have seen playing for antrim or respect through deeds.  Problem is 2009 is really the only period that most young fellas remember - the previous lot just weren't that aspiring, and most of that glorious summer team are still playing. Good to see Gearoid stepping up but are kevin brady, madden or murray big enough names?  any of the Glenavy Gallaghers? Eamon McCann or Ciaran O'Neill?  Mulholland from glenravel? Big Joe Quinn? Kevin McGourty or Simon Kennedy? Plenty of names that im leaving out of course but we need articulate and able people in these positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 15, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 15, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
another good win at the weekend with the team slowly emerging with some good patterns of play and showed themselves to be the best team in the league (at present).  looking back at the u21s and the comments made, perhaps its time for us to put together a hit list of former respected, intelligent and well known former county men to participate in the management of teams.  Sometimes the kids just want to be taught by someone they have seen playing for antrim or respect through deeds.  Problem is 2009 is really the only period that most young fellas remember - the previous lot just weren't that aspiring, and most of that glorious summer team are still playing. Good to see Gearoid stepping up but are kevin brady, madden or murray big enough names?  any of the Glenavy Gallaghers? Eamon McCann or Ciaran O'Neill?  Mulholland from glenravel? Big Joe Quinn? Kevin McGourty or Simon Kennedy? Plenty of names that im leaving out of course but we need articulate and able people in these positions.

I know Joe Quinn is a selector with the current team, Kevin Brady & Martin Mulholland are still playing I think.  Madden is managing a club team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2016, 07:56:04 PM
And our hurlers are enjoying an overnight stay in London............. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 20, 2016, 04:11:19 PM
Absolute joke CB. I Really for the life of me don't understand how the hurlers get a bigger budget. Hopefully the county board will realise next year that there is as many football men in the county as hurling men and thus put both teams on an equal footing. Disgraceful from the hurlers especially considering the footballers promotion was nearly jeopardised at their overnight expense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2016, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on March 20, 2016, 04:11:19 PM
Absolute joke CB. I Really for the life of me don't understand how the hurlers get a bigger budget. Hopefully the county board will realise next year that there is as many football men in the county as hurling men and thus put both teams on an equal footing. Disgraceful from the hurlers especially considering the footballers promotion was nearly jeopardised at their overnight expense.

Do you the reason why this happened?? Why disgraceful from the hurlers? Did they go out to lose? Did they pick to go on the Saturday??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2016, 06:57:55 PM
Perhaps the hurling team did not choose to fly to London, but perhaps those in high places do lean slightly to those who wield the hurl.
Jeez despite the luxury of an overnight delivered they reached a new 'low' and a defeat inflicted by the Exiles.
I think London would struggle to beat the Cargin camogs. :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: optimus cheese on March 20, 2016, 08:47:45 PM
Would they yeah? Pretty disrespectful that don't you think? Enjoy the celebrations tonight CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2016, 10:05:12 PM
No one gloating Optimus. Bad day for Antrim hurling does not equal good day for Antrim Football. We are a dual county and both codes have been through ups and downs. But yes, the budget for both codes needs to be fairly distributed. The last I heard was it was approx 66%/33% in favour of hurling.

That's not equal in anyone's book.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 21, 2016, 10:23:49 PM
I dont imagine its the case that if there is say, £10,000 available there follows a 1/3 for football and 2/3 for hurling split. Surely both management teams present their plans and associated budgets at the start of the year and they are agreed after discussion with the Board?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2016, 11:02:56 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 21, 2016, 10:23:49 PM
I dont imagine its the case that if there is say, £10,000 available there follows a 1/3 for football and 2/3 for hurling split. Surely both management teams present their plans and associated budgets at the start of the year and they are agreed after discussion with the Board?
Aye imagination is the key word there Brendan.......................saw too many treasurer's reports over the years to swallow that one ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 22, 2016, 11:56:10 AM
i don't get that. the point i'm making is there is no pre determined split of available funds, but maybe i'm way off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2016, 10:24:52 AM
Big weekend for our footballers who go to Aughrim hoping to return up the road a division three team for next season. Hunger within the squad to do this is enormous, competition for places has never been better and apart from a few niggly injuries we should have a strong team out.

Weve been saying for years that if we get most of our best players out, and a good professional set up behind the scenes, that we should not be a division four team. A lot of work has gone into getting into this position where its all in our own hands at this stage. Lets kick the door down on the way out lads in the next few weeks, starting on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronHeart on March 26, 2016, 02:12:24 PM
Would give the whole county a lift BS especially after the disappointment served up by the hurlers. I seriously believe the sky is the limit for our footballers if we can build on promotion and maintain the competition within the squad. It is great to see. Day out in Croker aswell beckons if we can get the win. Aontroim Abu
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
One foot in Division Three. Five up at half time though we have a bit of breeze against us in the second half. Couldn`t make it down today as our club had a massive funeral service due to the death of Dermot Mc Aleeses uncle Liam.

I know BrendanfromBelfast is there with family and also following things on Antrim Twitter feed. COME ON LADS LETS GET THIS DONE TODAY.

Back to four now...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
Wicklow bring it back to three -  a really dangerous lead. Next score vital. Bam makes it four again, now Mick makes it five...... COME ON LADS NEXT SCORE SHOULD DO IT.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2016, 04:13:57 PM
WHAM BAM YOURE THE MAN. GOALLL. LETS GET THIS PARTY STARTED!

KICK THE DOOR DOWN LADS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Over?

Happy days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2016, 04:24:23 PM
Four up now, four minutes left Gold. Thats three scores in a row to Wicklow. We just need one more to settle us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2016, 04:30:14 PM
Update? !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 27, 2016, 04:33:49 PM
Won by 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2016, 04:34:19 PM
We won by 4!
Finally out of that Div 4 shithole...Thank god

Well done lads

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2016, 04:58:52 PM
Well done Saffrons. Twelve points from six games is a fantastic achievement. Congratulations to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 27, 2016, 09:43:48 PM
The lads played a great game today for roughly 60 mins; they were asleep at the wheel for the Wicklow goal in the first minute before taking control of the first half soon after that. Should probably have led by more at half time but just towards the end some bad decisions cost scoring opportunities. The second half we bossed the game against the wind with only some perplexing refereeing decisions allowing Wicklow to stay in contention (they only missed one free all day. Well they missed two but one of those was given as a point.)

With ten to go I think our lads began to get anxious about getting over the line (maybe understandably), we lost a series of our own kickouts, despite McKeever's excellent fielding in the first half, and us being one man up from early in the second period. And at one stage - with our lead cut to 3 - it took a class save from Chris to deny an equaliser. Shortly after that a break out score from Paddy McBride, who opted to fist over the bar when a goal seemed likely, was the insurance score. It was an entirely just outcome.

Some of our defensive play was top class, James Laverty is a brilliant defender, and while we could bemoan the defensive approach there is no doubt that between Delargy, KOBO, Burke and the Johnstons we will deny goal scoring opportunities to most teams. Up front we were at times really impactful, though watching games you still find yourself shouting 'take a blood point!' - but hey, what do we know :)

Bam was too hot to handle; he scored an outrageous point which was deemed wide by the same confused umpire mentioned above and when Ryan Murray was on the field combining with Tomas....hard to beat. Promotion after 6 games is a great achievement. Well done everyone involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
Thanks Brendan for the update. The road home could have been a lot longer if Chris didnt make that wondersave, but wicklow have been a bogey team of ours for a few years now, so any victory there is a good one.

Team taking shape nicely with lots of quality on the bench too no one can take anything for granted. Agree Brendan - the thought of Bam, Ryan & Tomas in a full forward line! You really would pay to see that.

I wouldnt worry too much about the Louth match. Yes it would be nice to win, but not that important really except that winning is a good habit. I would go for 3 weeks of really hard graft now, hard interval running etc, easing up a few days before our date in Croke Park which is a big pitch and will test the legs. Management have made good calls all year so we will put our faith in them to play out the next few weeks out whatever way they see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2016, 05:50:24 PM
 Just saw the screaming headlines in the cover of the 'Antrim Post'....................... :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: keep her low this half on March 29, 2016, 07:48:01 PM
Well done to the footballers, go on and win the division now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 03, 2016, 04:02:57 PM
An unbeaten league campaign and promotion secured......well done big Fitzy and Gearoid................cherry on top in Croker :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
Great to finally have good news coming out of Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 05, 2016, 11:38:05 AM
Has everybody gone away........sure a lot to celebrate in words.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Justanopinion on April 05, 2016, 11:47:44 AM
first post

delighted the footballers achieved promotion.  Clearly have put a lot of work in this year and are getting their just rewards.

Well done Gearóid and Russ!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 05, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
As far as I know at least five clubs have already confirmed that they are running buses to Croke Park. Hopefully there will be many more! Personally I am really looking forward to this already, even though Louth will be a tough enough nut to crack.

We played a division four final in Croke Park in 2009, played badly and lost. It was a long enough road home, made worse when Baker came out to say it was no big deal really... we were not to wound up for it. If thats the case why should clubs go to the bother. I found that a bit of an insult at the time. Thats seven years ago, and our players havent set foot there since, so lets go down and have a right rattle and do the county proud.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Justanopinion on April 05, 2016, 09:45:15 PM
I've heard craic already that the Final is being called a glorified friendly and it's just being used as another match ahead of the Championship just because promotion is already sorted.

Seriously hope we put out our strongest 15.....whatever that may be and keep the momentum going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 06, 2016, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Justanopinion on April 05, 2016, 09:45:15 PM
I've heard craic already that the Final is being called a glorified friendly and it's just being used as another match ahead of the Championship just because promotion is already sorted.

Seriously hope we put out our strongest 15.....whatever that may be and keep the momentum going

Agree.  Winning is a habit, as is losing and we've been in that rut too many times over the years.  Mickey Harte used to say that Tyrone went out to win every competition they were in and that mentality is a hallmark of good teams.  I'd hate to think our boys would run out at Croke Pk for a challenge game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 11, 2016, 09:17:27 AM
Watched a poor Cargin lose to our neighbours yesterday........championship moving up the road  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2016, 09:20:36 AM
Did both have strong teams out CB? Early days yet.

Good win for your boys BS over LD.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2016, 11:20:17 AM
A good start for us alright ITG. The feeling around here is that we would be graded somewhere 6-8 in Antrim football on last years form and we feel that we have enough quality in the ranks, and a year older for many of our younger players to push into a top four slot. Time will tell but I would see that as achievable for us, and room to kick on further in 2017 & 2018.

Niall Mc Keevers availability is a massive plus for us too. He is captain this year and looking like he wants to lead from the front. Plenty to like but still work in progress for the Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2016, 01:29:33 PM
Elsewhere some interesting results. Kevin Madden got a good start to his tenure at Creggan. Ahoghill gave St Galls their fill of it. St Teresas caught the Johnnies napping and Ballymena taking Rossa to the wire. Early indications that this league will be a bit more open than in previous years.

In division two St Endas gave Rasharkin a bit of a thumping. Not the start that Dermot Mc Nicholl was hoping for! Are St Endas ready to step up to the plate? That was an impressive return from them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 11, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
St Endas were very impressive, young fast and well drilled. Anything that could go wrong for Rasharkin did go wrong but Endas are most definitely on the upward curve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2016, 01:58:52 PM
Didn't know Madden was over Creggan. It will be interesting to see how that pans out.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2016, 02:11:37 PM
Kevin has been rightly around the block with spells at Glenullin, Loup and Dungiven as well as coaching Derry alongside Damian Cassidy. Has a lot of experience at this stage and looks like he has got a good reaction out of the Creggan players. Will be interesting to see if he can turn them into genuine championship contenders.

Likewise all eyes are on St Endas in division two. They have a batch of players who have won a lot of medals at juvenile level, have had great under age coaching and a lot of them have county experience at minor or under 21 level, so they really need to be making their move soon. Personally Id like to see that happen as they are an example of a club who have invested heavily on their juvenile set up and will be an example to others if they can transfer this to the senior stage in the next year or so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 11, 2016, 10:37:32 PM
Creggan will be tested on Wed ..........they did get one over Cargiin on Sunday but then they recorded a similar win over them last year as early on.........remain  to be convinced  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2016, 01:20:34 AM
Div 1 results all over the show tonight. I predict now that this league will be by far the most competitive for many years. Lamh Dhearg were awful against us on Sunday and trounce Cargin a few nights later. Impressive Creggan get toasted at St Galls who made really hard work of putting Ahoghill away at the weekend, who in turn lose to St Teresas tonight. Taking time to settle this division one!

St Endas continue their impressive start in Div 2. Mean business by the look of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 14, 2016, 08:23:58 AM
Do Cargin have the same management team as last year in place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2016, 08:41:58 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on April 14, 2016, 08:23:58 AM
Do Cargin have the same management team as last year in place?

Cargin concentrating on the championship again.... Its a good formula
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on April 14, 2016, 11:39:44 AM
Good to see a more competitive Division 1 this year and while I think Cargin and St. Gall's will still be the main teams to beat this year when it comes to championship, I think we will see a new name on the Championship roll of honour inside the next 3-4 years, whether this be Creggan, Rossa, Lamh Dhearg, Johnnies, Rossa or Portglenone is difficult to call. All in all the age profile of St. Gall's and to a lesser extent Cargin will lead to a much more competitive senior championship, with 5 or 6  teams in contention each year as opposed to the last 15 years when it has only been two. This can only be good for the county and hopefully push standards on although I don't think we'll ever see a side of the quality of St. Gall's again.
As for Division two St. Enda's are definitely the team to beat although from what I hear they are such a young team to beat that they often struggle over the summer months when they lose most of their team who are students to foreign travel. This has been the case in their last two championship campaigns when they were tanked by Ballymena. Other contenders will be St. Paul's and maybe Glenavy who when they get their full team out are a big, physical side with some good footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on April 14, 2016, 03:44:49 PM
Portglenone will win the championship.  You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2016, 04:33:35 PM
Cargin are most certainy out of contention.....sure they have lost two league games and despite the best efforts of those divers (hired at a huge cost) the barrow load of league medals JB dumped in the Bann cannot be recovered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2016, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2016, 04:33:35 PM
Cargin are most certainy out of contention.....sure they have lost two league games and despite the best efforts of those divers (hired at a huge cost) the barrow load of league medals JB dumped in the Bann cannot be recovered.

You couldn't give them away  ;D.... Would like to see Cargin get over their final hoodoo against us....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
Will look forward to such MR2.........but hey epitaphs being written.....they say new kids are already on the block.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 19, 2016, 12:16:37 PM
Div 4 final this weekend. It will be good to see the team playing in Croke Park. The key objective of the campaign has already been secured but it would be positive to finish the league on a high, lift a cup, give our young fans throughout the county a team to look up to, and fastback the preparations for Fermanagh game. We can be sure Louth will be fully geared up for Saturday so this should be a real challenge. Hope there is a good turnout of Antrim fans, the lads deserve that. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 22, 2016, 11:02:49 PM
Some weekend lined up in Dublin the football finals and the 1916 centenary events. Exactly 100 years this weekend.

Big shout out to Fitzy/Gearoid/Big Joe/wee Pat and all the team on our first visit to Croke Park for a few years. Would be great to win the match and hopefully put on a performance in front of the cameras and hundreds of our young supporters going down in buses from clubs across the county. A win tomorrow and The Green Glens will get a fair old blast in Jury's Croke Park Hotel about 6 o clock.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 23, 2016, 03:50:00 PM
Take a look at the crowd and then someone tell me why a 30+ thousand seater Casement is good for Antrim  :-\

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on April 23, 2016, 05:41:07 PM
I think we lost it in the mid field they were catching everything including our kick outs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 23, 2016, 08:13:28 PM
We kicked it away. When we got 1-11 we shouldve kicked on and got 1-20. Awful wides and kicks into keepers hands. We were the better team just didnt take our scores
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on April 23, 2016, 09:45:04 PM
better team for first half only, total disintegration in second half, if Louth had kicked half of their second half wides, they would have been out of sight. Serious issue with kickout plan, if any exists, reckon Antrim lost most of Kerr's kicks. Banging it down the middle all the time is a disaster
On that showing ,qualifiers after Fermanagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2016, 11:07:56 PM
Was there a strong wind blowing over the Hill in the first half? Antrim seemed reluctant to shoot from any distance whereas Louth were banging them over into the Canal. Neeson had one of those days in the first half. Didn't see much of the second half but if Antrim had been out of sight at half time it wouldn't have been a fluke. Louth had a modern approach to defending; Antrim a bit more open.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2016, 08:07:56 PM
Going from a couple of points down to five up at the interval left us a bit complacent. Everyone I spoke to at the break thought we were well in control, and I'd say the players thought that too.

Mick had a great chance to level it but it wasn't to be. Came home today to find a big Louth flag planted in the fence between our house and the neighbours. He is from Drogheda originally - obviously enjoying his moment!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 25, 2016, 08:27:13 AM
Lads 2 very poor teams. But entertaining all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 25, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
Tomas was v good and I thought was pulled down for a potential penalty in 2nd half that ref waved away

I thought R Johnston and KOBO were playing great but I think we weren't great around the middle. Mick McCann is good out there but other than that we are lacking in that position as you go up to a higher level. I'm maybe being harsh but im talking about men in that position who take the game by the scruff of it's neck when it is going against you, catching clean ball and driving a team on by scoring a point to stem the tide like Tohill, O Se etc...I just don't think we have that at the minute/or the boys haven't reached that level yet (im not saying they ever would meet those men's level but I mean chipping in by scores or clean catches to turn the tide!).

Neeson had an off day at a time when a few more scores would have killed the game as a contest. He should've been subbed earlier for Murray. Didn't happen for Murray either but that happens some days. I think our misses meant panic set in a bit and thus Louth tails went up and they realised we were caught in the headlights and they threw the shackles off and went hell for leather.
I'm certain we are better than them and would beat them 9 times out of 10 but we need to learn to have a killer instinct and not panic when things aren't happening for us

There has been a defo improvement this year and you cant win them all. I believe we are better than Fermanagh and should beat them if we play with intensity the whole match.

It's great to see the buy in from the players that we didn't have last year and their efforts are appreciated by many, even if the attendance didn't show it on Saturday. Reality is that a Div 4 final will not draw the crowds but hopefully championship will.... and a win or 2 there would see the fair weather fans back out again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 01:48:03 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 25, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
Tomas was v good and I thought was pulled down for a potential penalty in 2nd half that ref waved away

I thought R Johnston and KOBO were playing great but I think we weren't great around the middle. Mick McCann is good out there but other than that we are lacking in that position as you go up to a higher level. I'm maybe being harsh but im talking about men in that position who take the game by the scruff of it's neck when it is going against you, catching clean ball and driving a team on by scoring a point to stem the tide like Tohill, O Se etc...I just don't think we have that at the minute/or the boys haven't reached that level yet (im not saying they ever would meet those men's level but I mean chipping in by scores or clean catches to turn the tide!).

Neeson had an off day at a time when a few more scores would have killed the game as a contest. He should've been subbed earlier for Murray. Didn't happen for Murray either but that happens some days. I think our misses meant panic set in a bit and thus Louth tails went up and they realised we were caught in the headlights and they threw the shackles off and went hell for leather.
I'm certain we are better than them and would beat them 9 times out of 10 but we need to learn to have a killer instinct and not panic when things aren't happening for us

There has been a defo improvement this year and you cant win them all.

It's great to see the buy in from the players that we didn't have last year and their efforts are I believe we are better than Fermanagh and should beat them if we play with intensity the whole match.appreciated by many, even if the attendance didn't show it on Saturday. Reality is that a Div 4 final will not draw the crowds but hopefully championship will.... and a win or 2 there would see the fair weather fans back out again

Where do you base that assumption from?
Honestly here and no messing because I have had two years of being told that Antrim have better players than Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
I fail to see where it's coming from too.

Fermanagh are a decent side with quite a number of good players. Eoin Donnelly would make most teams in Ireland and there are a few others none too shabby.

If we raise our game and are organised we can definitely compete with them and maybe get a win but Fermanagh should be strong favourites and rightly so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
I fail to see where it's coming from too.

Fermanagh are a decent side with quite a number of good players. Eoin Donnelly would make most teams in Ireland and there are a few others none too shabby.

If we raise our game and are organised we can definitely compete with them and maybe get a win but Fermanagh should be strong favourites and rightly so.

That I can understand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 25, 2016, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 25, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
I fail to see where it's coming from too.

Fermanagh are a decent side with quite a number of good players. Eoin Donnelly would make most teams in Ireland and there are a few others none too shabby.

If we raise our game and are organised we can definitely compete with them and maybe get a win but Fermanagh should be strong favourites and rightly so.

That I can understand.

I'll have a pint of whatever Gold is on.  Fermanagh stuffed us twice last year (by 13 points in the qualifiers if memory serves me right).  They held their own in Div 2, beat Meath and drew with Tyrone and away to Galway, three teams we're nowhere near.  I've been to a few Fermanagh games this year and I was at the Div 4 final.  Honestly, I expect Fermanagh to win this by at least 6-8 points.  They are much better than us.

Antrim have no killer instinct.  We were 5 up after 45 mins and should have pushed on and won that game comfortably, instead we gave away two bad goals (to add to a really soft one after a couple of minutes).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 25, 2016, 08:36:27 PM
Right a couple of years ago we were well ahead in championship. ..I believe showing we are better and have more talented players

We then sat back and showed our lack of killer instinct and nearly blew it...if we can get over that freezing mentality I believe we are better...granted it's a big if

Last year we didn't have the team of 2014 or this year....it was a C team and doesn't count. We had no Niblock, Neeson or Tomas or Mick McCann...you're talking our top 4 forwards. If fermanagh didn't have quigley or the corrigans they would be toothless too

Fermanagh have done it v Galway etc though and we haven't. ..I'll maybe be proved wrong but we'll see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 25, 2016, 08:36:27 PM
Right a couple of years ago we were well ahead in championship. ..I believe showing we are better and have more talented players

We then sat back and showed our lack of killer instinct and nearly blew it...if we can get over that freezing mentality I believe we are better...granted it's a big if

Last year we didn't have the team of 2014 or this year....it was a C team and doesn't count. We had no Niblock, Neeson or Tomas or Mick McCann...you're talking our top 4 forwards. If fermanagh didn't have quigley or the corrigans they would be toothless too

Fermanagh have done it v Galway etc though and we haven't. ..I'll maybe be proved wrong but we'll see

Well ahead. Really?
I may be wrong but did Antrim not need a goal line clearance by O'Boyle from McCluskey with the last kick of the game to deny Fermanagh the win.
We were caught cold that day but by the end it was Antrim that froze and were hanging on.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 25, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 25, 2016, 08:36:27 PM
Right a couple of years ago we were well ahead in championship. ..I believe showing we are better and have more talented players

We then sat back and showed our lack of killer instinct and nearly blew it...if we can get over that freezing mentality I believe we are better...granted it's a big if

Last year we didn't have the team of 2014 or this year....it was a C team and doesn't count. We had no Niblock, Neeson or Tomas or Mick McCann...you're talking our top 4 forwards. If fermanagh didn't have quigley or the corrigans they would be toothless too

Fermanagh have done it v Galway etc though and we haven't. ..I'll maybe be proved wrong but we'll see

Well ahead. Really?
I may be wrong but did Antrim not need a goal line clearance by O'Boyle from McCluskey with the last kick of the game to deny Fermanagh the win.
We were caught cold that day but by the end it was Antrim that froze and were hanging on.

Exactly,  read my 2nd paragraph. ...we have a history of freezing when ahead and having a lack of killer instinct. ..no more so than that day... or on Saturday past come to think of it

I just think we have more talented footballers in our county than yours.(a greater number than you do I mean)..we have greater numbers and therefore that should be expected.  You are probably  a better 'team' but if we play as a team and throw the shackles off for 70 minutes I believe we would beat you 9 times out of 10 (provided we didn't have last year's team out)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 09:15:31 PM
9 times out of 10....
You are obviously on the wind or deluded.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 25, 2016, 10:54:24 PM
We are a much better team this year...but so too are Fermanagh. In fact they are a great wee team, well drilled and organised who would put it up to almost anyone except the Dubs obviously. Full credit to them for turning themselves around inside a few years.

It shows that you don't need fantastic minor and under twenty one teams. If you can harness 25 players who will sacrifice everything, including themselves if they are subs, for the good of their county, that tremendous improvement can be made.

It's taken Pete three years to deliver this and they are a bit further down the road than us. Not to say we can't beat them on any given day if we do everything right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 25, 2016, 11:11:45 PM
Well said Hardstation. Our minors beating Derry is a great achievement. Well done to all involved. Carl Mc Cabe is coaching this team and the players speak highly of him. Good set up apparently = good results.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 26, 2016, 11:04:18 AM
Organisation and committment is the key Bannside.......Fermanagh underlines such as the vital ingredients.....would Cargin, Gall's, L Dearg or any of the top club sides in Antrim fear any club team in Fermanagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2016, 01:56:01 PM
Definitely not CB, but we have no right to assume our best clubs are up there with the best in Ireland right now either. St Galls flew our flag admirably for years, winning three Ulsters....but no one else has gotten close to doing that. And the last of these was five or six years ago.

Cargin went close against Crossmaglen, and had you taken your chances you might have got over the line. But that wasnt a vintage Cross team by any stretch of the imagination.

In fact I dont think Ulster has a superpower team in it right now, so the Antrim winners this year have as good a chance as any.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2016, 06:55:09 PM
Sincere condolences to the family and friends of Gerry Barry on his recent passing. Gerry was a great Gael who was Antrim to the core and served as county secretary for many years in the days when it was unpaid and voluntary. A true gentleman who was highly respected by all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2016, 10:39:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2016, 06:55:09 PM
Sincere condolences to the family and friends of Gerry Barry on his recent passing. Gerry was a great Gael who was Antrim to the core and served as county secretary for many years in the days when it was unpaid and voluntary. A true gentleman who was highly respected by all.

Lovely guy who I'll miss.... Gerry always had time for Gaels... Had many a discussion/debates/chats with Gerry in the club over a few Guinness... RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 03, 2016, 11:53:53 AM
Gerry Barry really was a true Gael......a gentleman and indeed a scholar.......R I P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 09, 2016, 09:15:02 PM
What about Sunday? I'm looking forward to heading down as I think we have a great chance in both games, minor and senior. Nothing to fear in going to Enniskillen and our senior team is in better shape than 12 months ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2016, 11:09:02 AM
Really looking forward to it too Brendan. We have a strong team out, with a few fifty fifty calls with quality players on the bench who can expect plenty of action. Mick Mc Cann, Niblock and Bam Neeson were on fire two years ago at the same venue, and we will need these three to step up once again.

Good drying weather so the pitch will be quick and that usually suits us. Im optimistic that we can pull off a result...but we need 20 big performances from the first whistle we need to go at them. We have two ways of playing (unfortunately) but when we click we are good to watch and hard enough to beat. Fermanagh will be favourites but thats ok, all the pressure is on them and that suits us big time too.

Minors should get the day off to a good start for us. A decent set up this year and a good bunch of lads from what I hear.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 03:21:43 PM
Good win for the minors
Antrim: 4-10
Fermanagh: 2-9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 15, 2016, 08:07:14 PM
Worse than last year from the seniors and it was awful :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on May 15, 2016, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 25, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 25, 2016, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 25, 2016, 08:36:27 PM
Right a couple of years ago we were well ahead in championship. ..I believe showing we are better and have more talented players

We then sat back and showed our lack of killer instinct and nearly blew it...if we can get over that freezing mentality I believe we are better...granted it's a big if

Last year we didn't have the team of 2014 or this year....it was a C team and doesn't count. We had no Niblock, Neeson or Tomas or Mick McCann...you're talking our top 4 forwards. If fermanagh didn't have quigley or the corrigans they would be toothless too

Fermanagh have done it v Galway etc though and we haven't. ..I'll maybe be proved wrong but we'll see

Well ahead. Really?
I may be wrong but did Antrim not need a goal line clearance by O'Boyle from McCluskey with the last kick of the game to deny Fermanagh the win.
We were caught cold that day but by the end it was Antrim that froze and were hanging on.

Exactly,  read my 2nd paragraph. ...we have a history of freezing when ahead and having a lack of killer instinct. ..no more so than that day... or on Saturday past come to think of it

I just think we have more talented footballers in our county than yours.(a greater number than you do I mean)..we have greater numbers and therefore that should be expected.  You are probably  a better 'team' but if we play as a team and throw the shackles off for 70 minutes I believe we would beat you 9 times out of 10 (provided we didn't have last year's team out)

That's 3 out of 4 now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 15, 2016, 09:15:46 PM
We were shire.  No score in first 20 mins reminded me of Fermanagh  v Kildare (I think it was Kildare anyway ) a few years ago

We were awful. ..no excuse for that on a perfect day like today

Fermanagh much better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
I do give up...................beaten again by Fermanagh................we are awful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 15, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
I do give up...................beaten again by Fermanagh................we are awful.

Why?? If Cargin was playing a division 3 club team, what would the result be??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2016, 09:49:16 PM
I don't think even bs could put a positive spin on that first half :(

Fermgael no need to gloat. We like to think wishfully sometimes.

Good win for the minors. Some good players on that team. Hope the corner forward quinn who had a great game isn't injured too badly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Because MR2,
I do remember when Fermanagh would not have been allowed on the same pitch as Antrim and now we are forced to tug the forelock to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on May 15, 2016, 10:14:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 15, 2016, 09:49:16 PM
I don't think even bs could put a positive spin on that first half :(

Fermgael no need to gloat. We like to think wishfully sometimes.

Good win for the minors. Some good players on that team. Hope the corner forward quinn who had a great game isn't injured too badly.

It was not gloating.
I just think that the particular poster afforded Fermanagh no respect for what we have done over the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2016, 10:16:10 PM
Cb when was that? We didn't win a championship game for 17 years at one point and you could count on one hand how many championship games we have won since so how you can say anyone wouldn't be allowed on the same pitch as us is ludicrous.

In the meantime fermanagh were a replay away from an ai final, have got to a quarter final, got to an ulster final etc etc.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 15, 2016, 10:40:49 PM
We were dire in the first half, set up merely to keep the score down. We have some forwards who can be devastating if given good possession - why not play to our strengths? Playing 2 forwards against 6 defenders....isn't it obvious that we won't score playing like that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 15, 2016, 10:44:50 PM
Do Antrim enter the A or B side of the backdoor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 15, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Because MR2,
I do remember when Fermanagh would not have been allowed on the same pitch as Antrim and now we are forced to tug the forelock to them.

I can go back to 90 took my dad down to Brewster park... Said we should win sunny day won minor game .... Bate in senior game...you got to get away from club scene and county scene... Totally different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 15, 2016, 10:57:38 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 15, 2016, 10:40:49 PM
We were dire in the first half, set up merely to keep the score down. We have some forwards who can be devastating if given good possession - why not play to our strengths? Playing 2 forwards against 6 defenders....isn't it obvious that we won't score playing like that?

We only had 1 forward most of the time...1 forward in their half....ffs

Hard to even talk about how bad it was
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 11:46:45 PM
Some people far too willing to believe the hype.
Antrim topped Div 4 .... a full 12 places below where Fermanagh ended up in Div2. Championships is Championship and all that, but come on gents. How sure are you that we 'should' be able to consistently put it up to the likes of teams like Fermanagh. Results wouldn't suggest that we should AFAICS. Very easy to look slick against Div4 teams. Div2 opposition will always be better drilled and put a Div4 team under pressure.

A lot of toys strewn around the place this evening for no good reason other than unrealistic expectations being set.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: curious on May 15, 2016, 11:53:41 PM
1. pre match, Fermanagh players  put through drills, Antrim players kicking the ball around leisurely - bad omen before a ball kicked in anger
2. kickout strategies told a tale, Fermanagh guy looking for movement and space to aim at, Antrim keeper straight down the middle most of time, no outfield movement. Fermanagh got it moving fast, Antrim slow and methodical. Fermanagh won serious number of Antrim kickouts but it improved a bit in second half
3. Not only did Antrim have few forwards up, but they were peppered with high ball in, especially in first half. No chance against Fermanagh defence
4. Antrim half back line never got near going forward to support
5. Serious poor shooting in first half, got better in second half

no doubt Antrim players train, put the hours in and work as hard as any other county and its such a shame they get very little reward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2016, 08:26:37 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 11:46:45 PM
Some people far too willing to believe the hype.
Antrim topped Div 4 .... a full 12 places below where Fermanagh ended up in Div2. Championships is Championship and all that, but come on gents. How sure are you that we 'should' be able to consistently put it up to the likes of teams like Fermanagh. Results wouldn't suggest that we should AFAICS. Very easy to look slick against Div4 teams. Div2 opposition will always be better drilled and put a Div4 team under pressure.

A lot of toys strewn around the place this evening for no good reason other than unrealistic expectations being set.

I would agree some people are getting carried away but that first half performance was as bad as it gets. Fermanagh were always 6-8 points the favourites and were much the better team but you at least have to go for it. Being 4 to 5 points down in an ulster championship game from an early stage and sticking with one forward inside the opposition 45 marked by three defenders leaves you on a hiding to nothing. One forward who is a corner forward and should be playing off a big ball winner at that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2016, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 11:46:45 PM
Some people far too willing to believe the hype.
Antrim topped Div 4 .... a full 12 places below where Fermanagh ended up in Div2. Championships is Championship and all that, but come on gents. How sure are you that we 'should' be able to consistently put it up to the likes of teams like Fermanagh. Results wouldn't suggest that we should AFAICS. Very easy to look slick against Div4 teams. Div2 opposition will always be better drilled and put a Div4 team under pressure.

A lot of toys strewn around the place this evening for no good reason other than unrealistic expectations being set.

I posted a few times that Fermanagh would win this game by 6 - 8 points.  They should have been 10-12 points up by half time. At 0-9 to 0-1 after 30 odd mins Antrim were still playing one forward (Bam) and on the rare occasion when they got the ball into him it was a massive punt into the air that the had no chance with.  The set up reminded me of the day a few years ago when Frank Dawson sent the team out against Monaghan to try to win 1 point to nil. Surely if you send the team out to keep the score down and you're 7-1 down after 25 mins then the plan should change??

On reflection I wouldn't be too harsh on the players, they played the way they were told to play.  As others have said that's a harsh lesson on the difference between Div 2 and Div 4.  An example of the ills of modern football was seen with the Fermanagh goal.  Ryan Murray had his man beat about 30m from goal instead if driving straight and putting the ball over the bar to make it 12-10 he turns back looking for the pass (probably because he's been coached to do this), loses the ball and 5 secs later it's in the Antrim net.

Good win by the minors though.  Clearly the better team for most of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 16, 2016, 10:05:26 AM
Disappointing performance yesterday like a lot of our support yesterday I traveled with a genuine belief that we could get a result, although it has to be noted that I somewhat underestimated Fermanagh, they were extremely well organised in terms of their defensive structure and broke well from front to back.

In terms of Antrim i was slightly bemused by the kick out strategy or lack of it but in thinking I would imagine it was based around the ability of Niall McKeever to win clean ball around the middle and to late to work on anything else after his late withdrawal. In saying that John Carron battled manfully around the middle and got a hand to most kickouts, we did struggle with breaking ball however.

With Fermanaghs organised blanket defence we needed to come out of defence at break neck speed before they got organised but more often than not it was a laboured patient approach whilst not giving the ball away it made it very difficult to get into scoring positions. Dermott McAleese and Ryan Murray helped when then came on with a more direct style of play.

I was a little surprised that Antrim continued with a sweeper at the start of the second half when 7 down and thought they should definitely have went man to man sooner than they did, Fermanagh got at least 7 or 8 uncontested short kickouts at the start of the first half taking the pressure off their defence when we were starting to get the upper hand. Antrims best period in that game was certainly when they went 15 on 15, had bams goal chance gone in it would have made it very interesting, saying that Fermanagh were full value for the win.

Its easy sitting here on a Monday morning analyzing as well very different when your own the line in the middle of a championship game. Heres hoping for a good draw in the qualifiers and possibly a run.

Well done to the minors also few mistake which lead to scores but they are young lads overall a good performance with some great players on show.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2016, 10:42:33 AM
I think we miss Tony Scullion a lot in these kind of games. He always went at teams. You can say what you want about his kicking at times but he was prepared to try and break tackles and go forward. We don't have enough like that. We also had lots of space in the wings but didn't take anyone into it as Fermanagh knew we had a guy in the middle and that was it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 16, 2016, 11:03:48 AM
Great analysis and everyone here seems on the same wavelength.

From a coaching perspective it was poor. We were far to slow in moving the ball - and thats because there was no target to hit. Support play was practically non existent, extremely disappointing. Kevin Madden correctly pointed out that we were too passive in meeting the tackle. It was like we were inviting them onto us before we decided to engage. Why not start that 40 yards further up the pitch?

We really could have pinched a result as Fermanagh were poor too. We were awful at times and yet got within a score of them with seven minutes left.  They only managed 1-04 from play so thats well done to our defence. But we didnt score from play ourselves until 43 mins and that is a horrendous statistic.

Thats the hub and whoever is setting us up to play the way we do needs a rethink. Players dont like it. Supporters dont like it. Trust the players for goodness sake. When we went man to man we looked much better.  Id just love to see Bam Tomas and Ryan up front at the same time, all within the thirty yard line. Keeping it wide, creating space, and making them mark us. Three artists every bit as good as Tomas Corrigan if they get a good supply.

What we are doing is inviting them on and saying give us your best shot. But that is useless if we are not hurting them on the scoreboard and where the hell were our scores going to come from. Five hail Marys on top of Bam, the smallest player on the pitch. Jesus wept.

We gave Frank Dawson terrible manners on here about the same thing. Lessons need to be learned very quickly here because not one person I spoke to has any appetite whatsoever for watching that type of shite/puke fare we were forced to watch yesterday.

Trust the players please. We can play football when allowed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2016, 11:15:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 16, 2016, 11:03:48 AM
Great analysis and everyone here seems on the same wavelength.

From a coaching perspective it was poor. We were far to slow in moving the ball - and thats because there was no target to hit. Support play was practically non existent, extremely disappointing. Kevin Madden correctly pointed out that we were too passive in meeting the tackle. It was like we were inviting them onto us before we decided to engage. Why not start that 40 yards further up the pitch?

We really could have pinched a result as Fermanagh were poor too. We were awful at times and yet got within a score of them with seven minutes left.  They only managed 1-04 from play so thats well done to our defence. But we didnt score from play ourselves until 43 mins and that is a horrendous statistic.

Thats the hub and whoever is setting us up to play the way we do needs a rethink. Players dont like it. Supporters dont like it. Trust the players for goodness sake. When we went man to man we looked much better.  Id just love to see Bam Tomas and Ryan up front at the same time, all within the thirty yard line. Keeping it wide, creating space, and making them mark us. Three artists every bit as good as Tomas Corrigan if they get a good supply.

What we are doing is inviting them on and saying give us your best shot. But that is useless if we are not hurting them on the scoreboard and where the hell were our scores going to come from. Five hail Marys on top of Bam, the smallest player on the pitch. Jesus wept.

We gave Frank Dawson terrible manners on here about the same thing. Lessons need to be learned very quickly here because not one person I spoke to has any appetite whatsoever for watching that type of shite/puke fare we were forced to watch yesterday.

Trust the players please. We can play football when allowed.

Those 10 words say enough about the day.

Hopefully the shackles come off for the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on May 16, 2016, 11:22:32 AM
we play like we did in the 1st then we wonder why the bbc dont choose to show us playing live!!

omg it was horrendous, u can say fermanagh r so many places above us in league standings, which is true & for a reason, but this was championship, what u train for all year. a bit of heart, passion & fight is all u can ask for. i hate this bit of shadowing a man, standing off him 5/10 metres, get in his bloody face, put him under the same pressure they put us. we played with sweepers yest, they needed to attack when we had the ball or at least free up others to attack. we needed to push up on the kickouts make them kick them long. better to go down fighting.

yes it got better in the 2nd half but it had to. carron tried hard, mcaleese & murray made a diff when introduced. the players were playing within themselves i think. we got back into the game then murray didnt bend his back to lift the ball, sloppy and they hit us for a goal.

we may hope for a kind draw in back door, but then everyone else will be hoping to get us!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 16, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
Funny enough I was thinking about Tony Scullion when watching it - ok he hasn't the pace he had a few years ago, but he would have let the Fermanagh players know they were in a game. I was delighted to see Sean McVeigh introducing himself to the game with a decent hit - it cost a yellow card but it said something about us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 16, 2016, 12:12:15 PM
First half shooting was terrible and put the pressure on ourselves the longer we went without scoring. Fermanagh's Nr 10 caused us no end of problems but for some reason was left alone. No point in having a defensive system and then leave a huge space in side of it.  McKeever was a big loss, McBride looked lost, the kickouts were telegraphed and Bam is not a lone target man whether the ball is hit high or low to him as it keeps coming back out again. His shot selection on the few occasions he got the ball was extremely frustrating.  Thought Johnston handled Quigley well but naïve for the goal which burst the bubble. McVeigh threw himself about well when he came on and murray livened things up as well as Antrim got a grip in the 2nd half.  We are a better outfit than we were last year as we have improved upgrades in every position, its just that our start and shooting in that first half were very very poor and in tight games you cant afford to do that.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 16, 2016, 12:14:03 PM
Not disagreeing with the preference to 'come out swinging' rather than the 'bury the head into the gloves' approach. Certainly makes games more watchable (I struggle to watch it now with the 'high percentage' tactics employed .... as much as I can appreciate the workrate required to play these systems well, the entertainment factor is low) but I can hear the 'we were far too naive' comments being bandied about if we'd have got beaten by the same or more doing so. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2016, 11:55:48 AM
Well done to the minors. Good win against Fermanagh - is that three years in a row now we have beaten them?

Really impressed with a few of them. Paddy Mc Cormack (Moneyglass) and Liam Quinn (Creggan) were standouts for me, the latter broke an ankle I hear and will be missing now. Our club had Michael Hagan corner forward (1-01) the son of Damien Hagan who played for Tyrone for a good few years and we would be expecting him to be a very big player for our seniors in the next few years. Class act. Goes to St Louis where he couldnt get a place on their school team which I personally find totally incredulous!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 17, 2016, 12:09:42 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 11:46:45 PM
Some people far too willing to believe the hype.
Antrim topped Div 4 .... a full 12 places below where Fermanagh ended up in Div2. Championships is Championship and all that, but come on gents. How sure are you that we 'should' be able to consistently put it up to the likes of teams like Fermanagh. Results wouldn't suggest that we should AFAICS. Very easy to look slick against Div4 teams. Div2 opposition will always be better drilled and put a Div4 team under pressure.

A lot of toys strewn around the place this evening for no good reason other than unrealistic expectations being set.

I couldn't understand the hype myself.  The only high quality players Antrim have are Michael McCann & Niall McKeever.  None of the rest would get on a Division 1 team and most of them would barely get on a Division 2 team.  From the football I've seen Bam and Tomas are very flaky and struggle to win their own ball. Niblock can do a job but against a well organised defence he struggles. Unless Antrim get a Division 4 team or lower Division 3 team in the qualifiers they will be out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 17, 2016, 12:46:18 PM
Minors were v good and yes thats 3 years in a row we have beaten Fermanagh at minor. Liam Quinn was outstanding in the first half especially, I thought Nagle was a clever footballer and Kevin Small in ff was strong too. I would like to see Joe Finnegan on the starting team along with his brother, both can have a big influence on games. I see we now play Donegal, in Ballybofey, on Sunday 29th May. It's a standalone game yet is on at 7pm???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 17, 2016, 01:22:05 PM
Minors as I said previously played well, as BS stated McCormick and Quinn both had great games, I was also impressed with Nagle and McCabe both very industrious and important to how Antrim played. Paul Mulholland at corner back had an excellent game as well.

Id imagine Eamon Fyfe will come in for Quinn for the quarter final, where would you see young Finnegan coming in at Brendan I dont know the lad at all other than what I seen when he came on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 17, 2016, 02:08:26 PM
Well, I'm not going to say who should be out / in...thats a hard enough job for management! I have seen Joe a good few times over recent seasons and he is a big, strong player who wins dirty & clean possession, retains it and uses it well inc getting scores. Hope to see more of him in saffron in the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2016, 07:28:37 PM
Unfortunately that's not likely Brendan. Joseph is part of Ulster rugby under 20 development squad and for the foreseeable future that's where his sporting focus will be. Both twins very capable at least we still have Patrick to look forward to in Saffron. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Erinlong on May 17, 2016, 07:51:14 PM

North Aontroim Gael I take your point on Antrim needing a div 3 or 4 team to progress,but Kevin Niblock and Tomas mccann are players that have carried the team along with Michael and Nial Mckeever at times this year. Niblock taking a lot of knocks along the way including Sunday's game,I'd love to see his assists for the year,Tomas was outragous in the league final, when in full forward is a ball winner and a threat,were he wasn't playing at on Sunday,Bam is as you said and I was surprised not to see Ryan Murray or even Sean Burke didn't get the nod for Sunday's game.

Going forward Antrim need a game plan, they looked lost compared to fermangh getting numbers back and break with intent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
A lot of games in the next couple of weeks......wonder will Cargin make the top seven...........think JB doesn't care ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2016, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
A lot of games in the next couple of weeks......wonder will Cargin make the top seven...........think JB doesn't care ???

Not when you throw the precious league medals in the Bann!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
had the divers in MR2 but think somebody beat them to it..............maybe they are residing somewhere in the vicinity..............but no reward being offered for the return of ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2016, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
had the divers in MR2 but think somebody beat them to it..............maybe they are residing somewhere in the vicinity..............but no reward being offered for the return of ;)

I still think you'll come up short again against Cross, but should get closer than last time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 30, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
Great to see a new 3G gaelic pitch setup in Poleglass. Really impressive facility and should benefit that area significantly in the next few years.  I assume that was mostly funded by Belfast City Council?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 31, 2016, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 30, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
Great to see a new 3G gaelic pitch setup in Poleglass. Really impressive facility and should benefit that area significantly in the next few years.  I assume that was mostly funded by Belfast City Council?

A messy one by all accounts, Mitchels put up somewhere in the region of £300,000 which was around 1/3 of the total costs i think. The rest was made up from Lisburn city council and a nearby fold housing or somthing like that. the project was then handed over to Belfast City council as it fell into their boundries after the Council mergers in 2015 and now Mitchels have to pay top dollar to play on it with their only perk being a perferred booking (they have pick of bookings). Being honest i don't fully understand how these things work as the agreement with LCC was that Mitchels were joint owners of the facility as such and but when the powers shifted to Belfast and their sourced out English Leisure company they got screwed over and have to pay to train/play on a facility they already paid for. Maybe it is that BCC had to pay for all new assets and as such LCC gained the money back and it is them screwing the club over but one thing is for sure it is messy and at the moment not suprising with all that is going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2016, 09:39:34 AM
Anyone at the minor game at the weekend? Any reports on it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on May 31, 2016, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 31, 2016, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 30, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
Great to see a new 3G gaelic pitch setup in Poleglass. Really impressive facility and should benefit that area significantly in the next few years.  I assume that was mostly funded by Belfast City Council?

A messy one by all accounts, Mitchels put up somewhere in the region of £300,000 which was around 1/3 of the total costs i think. The rest was made up from Lisburn city council and a nearby fold housing or somthing like that. the project was then handed over to Belfast City council as it fell into their boundries after the Council mergers in 2015 and now Mitchels have to pay top dollar to play on it with their only perk being a perferred booking (they have pick of bookings). Being honest i don't fully understand how these things work as the agreement with LCC was that Mitchels were joint owners of the facility as such and but when the powers shifted to Belfast and their sourced out English Leisure company they got screwed over and have to pay to train/play on a facility they already paid for. Maybe it is that BCC had to pay for all new assets and as such LCC gained the money back and it is them screwing the club over but one thing is for sure it is messy and at the moment not suprising with all that is going on.

That is absolutely disgusting. i really hope Mitchells take this as far as they can, I'm sure securing that pitch as a home was seen as a springboard to getting the underage back going again, hope they get something sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 31, 2016, 11:17:19 AM
Totally agree...absolutely scandalous

That could finish a club.

300k for F all?
The county and Ulster Council and Croke Paek should step in and help in any way possible
Use some of that Bruce money to right this wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 31, 2016, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 31, 2016, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 31, 2016, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 30, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
Great to see a new 3G gaelic pitch setup in Poleglass. Really impressive facility and should benefit that area significantly in the next few years.  I assume that was mostly funded by Belfast City Council?

A messy one by all accounts, Mitchels put up somewhere in the region of £300,000 which was around 1/3 of the total costs i think. The rest was made up from Lisburn city council and a nearby fold housing or somthing like that. the project was then handed over to Belfast City council as it fell into their boundries after the Council mergers in 2015 and now Mitchels have to pay top dollar to play on it with their only perk being a perferred booking (they have pick of bookings). Being honest i don't fully understand how these things work as the agreement with LCC was that Mitchels were joint owners of the facility as such and but when the powers shifted to Belfast and their sourced out English Leisure company they got screwed over and have to pay to train/play on a facility they already paid for. Maybe it is that BCC had to pay for all new assets and as such LCC gained the money back and it is them screwing the club over but one thing is for sure it is messy and at the moment not suprising with all that is going on.

That is absolutely disgusting. i really hope Mitchells take this as far as they can, I'm sure securing that pitch as a home was seen as a springboard to getting the underage back going again, hope they get something sorted.

Thats what got me, i've been talking to a few of them over the last 2 years and they had been saying that a lot of lads had done the coaching courses and the thoughts were once they had the facility up and running they would make a big push in the community to get young teams up and running. Disgrace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Was at Croker for the concert so missed the minor game ITG but from what I hear we were a match for them all over the pitch. Time will tell how good Donegal are but for sure there are some players coming through to look out for and it's great to see. Well done to everyone involved it was a good set up with a good management team/coaching staff that know what they are doing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dualta Duane on May 31, 2016, 02:10:32 PM
Really interested to know if Mitchells actually put up £300k.

Do Mitchells have a club house? certainly don't think they have any teams in any of the Sth Antrim or All county leagues.

So where would a club with no / very nearly no membership or club house (assuming they aint got one) have the means to stump up £300k?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 31, 2016, 02:36:58 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on May 31, 2016, 02:10:32 PM
Really interested to know if Mitchells actually put up £300k.

Do Mitchells have a club house? certainly don't think they have any teams in any of the Sth Antrim or All county leagues.

So where would a club with no / very nearly no membership or club house (assuming they aint got one) have the means to stump up £300k?

They play in Div3 Football & are in the JFC>

As far as I'm aware they've done a massive power of work in the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 31, 2016, 03:44:32 PM
So Cargin and Gall's are in the senior reserve final................what chance the same pairing in the senior decider ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2016, 04:45:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Was at Croker for the concert so missed the minor game ITG but from what I hear we were a match for them all over the pitch. Time will tell how good Donegal are but for sure there are some players coming through to look out for and it's great to see. Well done to everyone involved it was a good set up with a good management team/coaching staff that know what they are doing.

I missed the game on sunday BS but for the first game I thought there looked like some very good players in there. Better than I've seen in antrim minor teams in a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2016, 07:21:06 PM
Definitely better than average ITG. Two wins against Derry, beating Tyrone, and two good performances in the championship are a step up from what we normally get from our minors. Maybe Liam Quinn would have been worth a few scores too but for his injury. 

Scary thing is the good players who didn't make the panel. Eoghan Campbell (All Saints) Cormac Scott (St Endas) for example. Also Darren Grego can play from what I've seen (Rossa) and Matthew Hamill  (Glenavy) would have walked onto previous minor teams. Hopefully those lads don't feel raw about the way it turned out for them. Every one of them could be a county senior if they really go after it. I'm sure I have missed a few out too so sorry about that in advance.

Plus at least two if not three from St Brigids who took themselves off the panel earlier in the year. I was well impressed with half a dozen of them (not sure of names) when they played our minors a few weeks ago.

Challenge is getting the set up right for these lads in the next few years at under twenty one level which to be honest was a mish mash this year. Not sure who or what the reason was but management simply couldn't get players to buy in and attendances were poor .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on June 01, 2016, 04:44:06 PM
I took a trip up to see the minors on Sunday night and with all the chat about this strong Donegal minor team I traveled more in hope than expectation and from basically the throw in Donegal charged through the middle hitting the cross bar and fortunately going over, at that stage it looked like the fears might have been right.

Antrim settled well into the game after that and had the majority of possession and were patient against the Donegal blanket, they missed/dropped short I think I'm right in saying 5 frees in the first half, the way Donegal were set up it was imperative these chance were taken.

Second half started very well for again dominating possession and young Fyfe getting in for the first goal at the time I thought he should have squared it but he finished it very well, the Donegal keeper then took what could only be described as a very strange kick out which landed at Fyfes feet he duly gathered it up and rattled the net again. 7 up with 12 minutes to go. At this stage I was convinced Antrim would win as they had been defending well. Donegal however never panicked and struck 2 goals in as many minutes to bring them back into the game and followed it with a few excellent points. The Antrim lads while they continued to battle manfully seemed rocked by the comeback and were unable to claw there way back.

Whilst it wasn't the changing of the game shortly after Donegal had a man sent off for what seemed to be an off the ball infringement, I felt the referee very harshly gave Paul Mulholland a black card whilst he possibly fouled it didn't look as if it warranted a black, this coupled with his previous yellow left Antrim down to 14 also, I think had they kept the full complement on the pitch Antrim would have see the game out.

Very disappointing result but some tremendous talent on show which certainly bodes well for the future, of the names Bannside mentioned Matthew Hamill came on as a sub on Sunday whilst the others weren't involved for reasons I don't know.  From chatting to a few people at the match it seems a number of players are available again next year and that allied along with a strong squad of under 16's this year certainly paints a good picture moving forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 10:27:01 AM
Quote from: AQMP on June 07, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
Limerick "at home" in the qualifiers.

Casement will be buzzing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 07, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
Where will the game be played? are there any stadium requirements for qualifier games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 07, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
Where will the game be played? are there any stadium requirements for qualifier games?

Corrigan??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Any pitches on Rathlin  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 08, 2016, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 07, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
Where will the game be played? are there any stadium requirements for qualifier games?

Corrigan??

Was thinking that myself, was just wondering was there any requirements for so many seats etc for the qualifiers? Doubt there is, cant see there being too big of a crowd tbf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 08, 2016, 03:47:29 PM
Was at Creggan last nite and was impressed ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2016, 09:13:34 AM
Good performance alright CB. Matt Fitz was class he really is turning into one good footballer. Thought Patrick Gallagher did his starting claims no harm, KOBO back to his best again and Niblock was a better than anything Derry could find to attempt to mark him. Ryan Murray must start every time for Antrim. Class act.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 10, 2016, 12:18:34 PM
So the footballers appear to have an option of taking the qualifier game to Croke Park as part of a double header with CR replay. Personally I reckon that winning the Limerick game is all that matters - we get home advantage so rarely in the championship these days that we should stick with it. Bring Limerick to Corrigan, I imagine they would prefer a Croke Park fixture so for that reason alone, stick to Corrigan, win the game and think about Croke Park later in the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 10, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 10, 2016, 12:18:34 PM
So the footballers appear to have an option of taking the qualifier game to Croke Park as part of a double header with CR replay. Personally I reckon that winning the Limerick game is all that matters - we get home advantage so rarely in the championship these days that we should stick with it. Bring Limerick to Corrigan, I imagine they would prefer a Croke Park fixture so for that reason alone, stick to Corrigan, win the game and think about Croke Park later in the year.

Agreed, Croke Park should be where we aspire to be, not where we are to try and give us a sweetener because of the hurling fiasco, nice and tight at Corrigan will suit us far better. Limerick are more than beatable, home advantage is gonna be very important.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 11, 2016, 12:37:34 PM
I'm really stuck here. Merit in both. Corrigan means Limk will need to travel the night before or be stuck on a bus for four and a half hours. Home venue definitely worth a few points at least.

But Croker is a massive pitch and if Limk are as big and strong as usual then the open spaces will really suit us....IF.....our managers pick a team that are mobile and play a quick ball then we have the tools to beat Limerick. In that case my advice is to keep it wide and create huge spaces so that we could get our pacy players on the ball. Imagine Ryan and Tomas inside with space to do their thing. As John Morrison would say hit the spaces not the faces!

We see too much pedestrian stuff with too many players who want to stand and toe tap the ball before moving it sideways or backways. It's not rocket science. These players are killing us at the minute and on Wednesday night past, against Derry, this was thankfully absent from our game. Hopefully lessons are being learned because we have the speed on the right places if we can speed our overall game up.

Quicker hands and quicker ball needed with much less carrying balls onto tackles. Watch Tyrone.

So whereever the match is played that style should get us over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 12, 2016, 08:47:11 PM
Fair points but let's be honest, we should be beating Limerick wherever we play them. They got relegated from 3 to 4, and only managed 1 point in the league. We should accept that we have better players, send out our best, most attacking players, in forward positions, and win by 10 points. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 13, 2016, 11:05:14 PM
Its a standalone fixture at 2pm, Saturday week in Corrigan. A wise decision I think / hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2016, 07:46:24 AM
Corrigan it is then. I can see why the management wanted it there so let's back them and get a decent crowd up on Saturday week. Limerick will be a test alright but this is thoroughly winnable if we go out and try to beat them on the scoreboard. Agree 100% with Brendan on his above assertion. After all....isn't this how we beat Laois last year having been a mile behind at one stage!

Surely lessons have been learnt at this stage. We open up for ten minutes against Fermanagh and looked excellent...scoring five points in a row against a good division two outfit.

They will be big and strong and I don't think we should be standing back inviting them on to us. Depending on the team selection our biggest asset would be pace so I would be utilising that by pushing up and wide and making as much space as possible. I'd be worried about slugging it out with them and trying to hit them on the counter.

We need to be much quicker too in everything we do. The last two public games were far too pedestrian with several players spending far too much time on the ball....but ending up doing nothing with it.

If the players are freed up to go out and really express themselves as footballers we can take a scalp or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 15, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 15, 2016, 07:46:24 AM
Corrigan it is then. I can see why the management wanted it there so let's back them and get a decent crowd up on Saturday week. Limerick will be a test alright but this is thoroughly winnable if we go out and try to beat them on the scoreboard. Agree 100% with Brendan on his above assertion. After all....isn't this how we beat Laois last year having been a mile behind at one stage!

Surely lessons have been learnt at this stage. We open up for ten minutes against Fermanagh and looked excellent...scoring five points in a row against a good division two outfit.

They will be big and strong and I don't think we should be standing back inviting them on to us. Depending on the team selection our biggest asset would be pace so I would be utilising that by pushing up and wide and making as much space as possible. I'd be worried about slugging it out with them and trying to hit them on the counter.

We need to be much quicker too in everything we do. The last two public games were far too pedestrian with several players spending far too much time on the ball....but ending up doing nothing with it.

If the players are freed up to go out and really express themselves as footballers we can take a scalp or two.

Let our footballers actually try and play football and see where that gets us, get the handbrake off!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 15, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
So round one to Cargin MR2................1-14 to 0-09 :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 15, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
So round one to Cargin MR2................1-14 to 0-09 :)

Yeah, reserve final champions, its turning out to be a great season so far, our lads are disappointed but could never claw back that lead...

Great price for senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 17, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
any idea why there is a round of league fixtures at 7pm on sunday? i know its not a great excuse but a bit harsh on fathers day for lads with families etc, and also nothing worse than a day waiting around for football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 10:51:37 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 17, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
any idea why there is a round of league fixtures at 7pm on sunday? i know its not a great excuse but a bit harsh on fathers day for lads with families etc, and also nothing worse than a day waiting around for football.

Is this tongue in cheek Mac?
If we start putting off games for father's day what is next, no games on your birthday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: diegoforlan1 on June 17, 2016, 10:54:35 AM
Should be on Friday night! Ireland game sat, few cheeky beers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 17, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 10:51:37 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 17, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
any idea why there is a round of league fixtures at 7pm on sunday? i know its not a great excuse but a bit harsh on fathers day for lads with families etc, and also nothing worse than a day waiting around for football.

Is this tongue in cheek Mac?
If we start putting off games for father's day what is next, no games on your birthday?

Was indeed lol, just dont like football at 7 on a sunday evening, just seen there that Antrim Hurlers play derry on sunday at 5 so actually pleased that a round of games wasn't called off and times changed instead!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 17, 2016, 10:14:18 PM
No blanket defence in sight tonite in Corrigan MR2.....JB has tossed it into the Bann, to cover those league medals is possible.

Cargin are getting into stride methinks and will welcome ur boys to Toome in a couple of weeks.........but hey it's only the league this time :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2016, 07:30:40 PM
Very quiet here regarding the match tomorrow. Anyway good luck to the panel and management. A win is very possible if we go at them a bit. Personally I won't see it as the end of the world of we lose....as long as we have a proper go and if we do go down it must be with swords high.

There is no appetite whatsoever for the kind of negative football we have been watching recently so there's 70 mins ahead to show what we can do.  Here's hoping to be in the draw on Monday morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2016, 02:38:00 PM
Giving two early goals away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 25, 2016, 03:07:58 PM
Picture on St Johns Twitter feed sums it up, 1 Antrim man inside Limericks 45..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
If you play barely any forwards and you attack at that slow pace you will win nothing.

Take the ball at pace and break tackles. The inability to do that was shocking. Slow ponderous build ups relentlessly.

Limerick weren't good either and we should be better than that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 25, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
I hate having a go at management teams but that today was a disgrace, playing with a big wind and we play defensive football? Limerick were not a good side at all two terrible sides but we should have went out and set the stall out, we didn't we let Limerick dictate the first half and have the score line on their terms. Also, free takers, we had 4/5 free takers throughout the game. CK came up and kicked a dead ball from a tough enough angle had the distance not the accuracy, next free same distance right in front of the posts, he wanted to hit it and told to stay back? Can't understand that.

I actually feel sick, paid £16 in, £2 programme and a few ballots £23 in total for that?? Disgrace, no wonder there was no crowd how could you bring a family to that??? Gaa needs to sort it out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 25, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
Diabolical performance. Frankly unacceptable and there is now surely a serious question mark over who will be managing our footballers next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 25, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
Is it always the managers fault though ? We have a few posters on here that tell us that we could potentially be as good as some top Div 2 teams.

That is obvious bollocks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2016, 06:07:58 PM
With our best team i think we would be mid to bottom division 3.

The tactics have been really bad. Fermanagh are just better than us but we should be able to beat limerick.

We are failing really badly to move the ball with any pace and just can not break tackles - at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 25, 2016, 06:59:17 PM
Management set the team up to play to a system. When that system stymies the natural talent in the squad, and deprives our own forwards of possession - that's not good enough. 18 points in 2 championship games? 10 from play - over 2 games? When we have Ryan Murray, Paddy McBride, the McCanns, Niblock, Fitzpatrick, Neeson (not there now) all on board? It's not good enough, it's a deficient system and management should have seen that over the two games. Limerick drew one game and lost all others this season up to today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2016, 08:27:42 PM
Fantastic game of football today. End to end, fast and furious. You'd pay money to watch this every week. Fitness levels unreal. Support play fantastic. Quick fast football as it should be played.

Not sure who will win it. Malachy O Rourke v Rory Gallagher two managers on top of their game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2016, 01:13:28 PM
Yesterday was another very sad day for Antrim Football for quite a free reasons. We were 2/5 at home to a team that hadn't won a match all year and lost. Not only that, but we hardly got out of third gear and lost most of the individual duels all over the pitch.

Not one player will look back on this with any pride. We were clueless at times. Team formation all wrong. Burke at FF and Matt Fitz out round the middle. That's just one example. No one had a notion who was hitting frees. We had half a dozen players who definitely didn't look near championship pace and without doubt Limerick were hungrier, sharper and fitter. They were more vocal and had hard direct runners all over the pitch.

The very quick ball via hand or foot that I mentioned here in an earlier post was evident all right but was from the men in green. As a qualified coach I liked their style a lot. They set up defensively too but we're 200% quicker at moving the ball and making direct yards. Their full back line especially 3 and 4 were immense, raiding us at every opportunity.

In contrast we looked slow and ponderous. Leaderless too. No one to hit and no one showing. To think we had two men in their half for most of the game, especially the first half when we had the wind at our back, was nothing short of criminal mismanagement along the line. I'm sorry to have to put it that way but I can't think of a better or fairer word to use.

I didn't expect to beat Fermanagh but did expect a performance at least. That didn't happen so yesterday was a chance to redeem that. But we failed miserably and what has happened since we drew with Louth 10 weeks ago has taken completely away from that achievement.

Everyone on here and whoever you speak to is sick to the back teeth of the way we are being set up to play football. Limerick are coming down from division three and we are going up into it.

Playing like that will see us swiftly back to where we belong if there are not some monumental changes in the interim.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 26, 2016, 01:27:35 PM
What you ever put your name forward for the job BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2016, 01:37:29 PM
It's very easy to take a pop at management when things don't go well. It's often far too convenient. I know the work they put in and speaking to players regularly they thought the set up was good and quite professional.  It's only fair that is communicated too in the interests of balanced and subjective analysis.

On the fitness issue, I know that quite a few players yesterday had less than ideal preparation. Burke, Mc Keever, Mc Aleese, Martin Johnston, Ryan and Tomas all had injury concerns. Justy has played very little all year because of his injury and then wedding. That's the reason for some of the sluggishness.

If Sean Hurson had given us the penalty when Kevin Niblock was hauled down in the square , or Marty or worse still Ryan Murray has converted two excellent goal chances then we would have got across the line ok. And Burkey gave away two vital passes just when we had had finally got into the driving seat. Sadly that burst our bubble and there was no way back.

On a different day we would have beaten Limerick but not with all this going on. But it would have papered over more than a few cracks and now that the season is over it is constructive that we can analyse where we are going wrong and what we are doing well.

Everyone, players, management and backroom staff have put in a big shift. I know the hours were put in and for large parts most of it was good and that should be recognised. But what we have seen more recently will not be enough next year so something has to give. Hopefully it will the negative tactics that has everyone talking for the wrong reasons.  One man can't be right and everyone else wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
PaddyJohn I'm not sure if that was a vote of confidence or a wee dig lol. I went for the job in 09 when Baker got it. I also applied for U-21 job after that (having previously taken them in 06 the last time they won a match at this level) but didn't get a response from a county board I was at loggerheads with. My boat has sailed and there are plenty of good men who I know could do a job at this level.

At the minute Fitzy and Gearoid have the position that's the only show in town as we speak.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 26, 2016, 02:10:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 26, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
PaddyJohn I'm not sure if that was a vote of confidence or a wee dig lol. I went for the job in 09 when Baker got it. I also applied for U-21 job after that (having previously taken them in 06 the last time they won a match at this level) but didn't get a response from a county board I was at loggerheads with. My boat has sailed and there are plenty of good men who I know could do a job at this level.

At the minute Fitzy and Gearoid have the position that's the only show in town as we speak.

Wasn't a dig at you at all. As a county we need all the experienced heads like yourself on board at some level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 26, 2016, 05:10:43 PM
After the Fermanagh no show I was for not going back, but my young son convinced me to go yesterday, sure we would beat Limerick wouldn't we? Even he - at age 14 - can't stomach it anymore. I find that very sad. But as things stand, unless here is a change of approach, I'm not going back to watch that muck anymore. Last good day with Antrim was away to Wicklow to seal promotion. At least that journey was worthwhile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 26, 2016, 06:18:48 PM
So what we are saying here is that Antrim are a disgrace? Games overpriced? Poor management?

We've been down this road before lads & lassies. When will we realise that managers weren't banging the door down to do the job, the county board appointed the best management team they thought. In turn that management team will set the team up as they see fit, we have to accept that rightly or wrongly and move on, these lads are decent men who to be honest don't want to see Antrim beat.

Maybe a few axes to grind on this board and using the management as a channel to do so?

I'm as scunnered as the next with the performances of the county teams this weekend but I continue to give them my backing when I can, also I'll give the Saffon Vision county board time to turn it around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 26, 2016, 10:19:34 PM
Everyone gives their best I know, but its just ultra frustrating to see us struggle against a team who I think its reasonable to suggest we should be beating.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 26, 2016, 10:38:25 PM
The penalty was harsh and we should have scored a goal.

The disappointing thing is we played with no forwards ....scored a handful of points in 2 championship from play...just boring to watch unfortunately. Most games are boring these days tbf but disappointing when it's our county.

From Loughrey left we haven't really had a line/tackle breaker....we get up to tackles and then turn back or stop...it's hard to watch. Tomas can also but thats really it. The lads worked their balls off all year and got promoted which we are all grateful for...I'm not knocking their effort...it's just hard to watch epitomised by Spillane tonight rolling his eyes at the 1 score from play (from limerick unfortunately ) in the second half.

How do we fix it? Not enough big strong men in our county...not enough skill or flair either. 
Coaching and breeding needed!

In our leagues there's very little hitting hard...any hitting is trampy, cowardly digging to the back of the head "I'll knack ur ballix in" bs.
We need a change of culture
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2016, 11:04:33 PM
PaddyJohn you come across as a knowledgeable fella but your sentence about managers  not banging the door down to manage Antrim is miles off the mark so I can't let that sentiment go opposed.

That's the great thing about the likes of this discussion forum. It means that potentially lots of things can hit the forum that previously couldn't.  I know that quite a few were genuinely interested in the position but we're totally dismissed. Aidan O Rourke. Banty Mc Eneaney.  Pete Mc Grath. John Rafferty. All fell foul of our outgoing administration who felt that for one reason or another none of these applicants were credible challengers.

All Ireland winners and serial national league winners.  None given a look in.  Our county chairman decided where his loyalties lied. Everyone else was dismissed as not good enough, too expensive ( balls)  or not suiting the agenda. CV'S were irrelevant.

There's good men in the South West for example who are every bit as capable of taking county teams but please try and tell me when was the last one who was even remotely given consideration. Of 15 managers over the last 40 years not one ever came from one proud half of our football county.

That's totally unfair and a stat that will no longer be allowed to go unopposed. I mean if we're winning things you wouldn't say a word.

I'm not saying give the job to a SW man just to balance this. Give it to the men with the proper CV. To overlook Pete Mc Grath who was keen to take us on) is just an example of the total crass ineptitude of those we tasked with this responsibility. Never again should anyone as unqualified ever be put in a position to make decisions on behalf of our county to make decisions of this magnitude, ever again.

The men we entrusted with making the right call laughed off Pete Mc Grath and didnt even give him the decency if a reply. I'm sure he's having some laugh now. Pete, if you read on here I'd sincerely like to apologise on behalf of our county.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 27, 2016, 12:08:22 AM
Fair enough BS, I stand corrected. I knew McGrath was keen but I knew that was under the old regime and not under this saffron vision crowd.

Who in the SW would you recommend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2016, 12:27:31 AM
I won't shirk that question PJ.

Give me a level two coach to begin with, and by necessity lots of relevant experience to back it up.

Kevin Madden has managed Glenullin to win a Derry championship and spells with Loup and Dungiven and currently going well at Creggan. Assisted Damien Cassidy at Derry. A boatload of experience and a man who could take us to the next level.

What do you know about John Mc Keever. Still 37 and managed Cookstown to an all Ireland intermediate title.  Headhunted by Ballinderry...now that's a big statement in itself. Now with Coalisland going well in Tyrone div one. Top property and a really good operator. I'd say 95% of people in Antrim sell haven't heard of him and believe me he is very highly rated in Tyrone. Best mates with Peter  Canavan who would rate John very highly. (I was at a function with both of them last week in Dungannon).

That's just two from my own club and I'd  fancy my chances given a level playing field against either of them and they know that too lol.

JC Devlin as good as anyone who has managed Antrim as far back as I can remember but hasn't ever been properly considered. Any one of above as good as if not better than what has gone before us and know their way around a football team.

Paddy Graffin top notch too. Exceptionally well organised and would build in a great backroom team. That's just a few off the top of my head.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 27, 2016, 08:48:48 AM
I rate John McKeever very highly, a gent into the bargin and surely the players would respect him.

I agree there is no doubt that some of our former county men could do a job.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 27, 2016, 10:18:18 AM
BS, appreciate your honesty but in a case of 'show us your medals', is there a realistic candidate from antrim (sw or other) that has actually won something of note?  Madden was only the assistant manager to Baker at Glenullin so cant claim that as his title and since then hasn't won anything despite getting a range of good sides to manage. This is a big year for him as he needs to reach a championship final with creggan this year just to maintain any credibility as a manager (of senior club grade) going forward.  McKeever managed portglenone in div 2, won an intermediate title in tyrone but had a rotten year with ballinderry at senior level in derry, hardly the stuff of legend. Nice guy though and someone who you hope will do well in the future....one for 5 years time? JC has some credibility with his championship win at cargin but that was 10 years ago and he has been managing mostly in antrim div 2 as past number of years.    Recent success in antrim seems to have came from outside managers such as john rafferty, john brennan and McCabe.  whats the honest view from st galls men of harbinson as he appears the only recent antrim man with any success?   

maybe time has come to have an honest appraisal of the situation, stop putting unqualified men in and get someone with pedigree.  Frank Dawson was a disastrous appointment but at least he came with a CV in Co. Down so I can at least see the sense in his why appointment was made. Fitsy and Geroid seem like good fellas who have antrim's best interests at heart but appear to be out of their depth strategically and neither was really qualified to manage an intercounty team, certainly one with aspirations.

Don't believe anyone really believes with the players we have there is an all-Ireland in antrim, but we are certainly top of div 3 / lower div 2 standard when playing well.  Jumping into the 'coz hes from antrim' reasoning sounds a lot like the xenophobic arguments the England soccer management discussions used to have. 

Big call for Antrim Vision as their next management team selection will tell us if they are serious or are just going to pick any old manager and hope for the best as the old regime did. Whatever they do, they need to fully explain their reasoning for any appointments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 27, 2016, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 27, 2016, 10:18:18 AM
BS, appreciate your honesty but in a case of 'show us your medals', is there a realistic candidate from antrim (sw or other) that has actually won something of note?  Madden was only the assistant manager to Baker at Glenullin so cant claim that as his title and since then hasn't won anything despite getting a range of good sides to manage. This is a big year for him as he needs to reach a championship final with creggan this year just to maintain any credibility as a manager (of senior club grade) going forward.  McKeever managed portglenone in div 2, won an intermediate title in tyrone but had a rotten year with ballinderry at senior level in derry, hardly the stuff of legend. Nice guy though and someone who you hope will do well in the future....one for 5 years time? JC has some credibility with his championship win at cargin but that was 10 years ago and he has been managing mostly in antrim div 2 as past number of years.    Recent success in antrim seems to have came from outside managers such as john rafferty, john brennan and McCabe.  whats the honest view from st galls men of harbinson as he appears the only recent antrim man with any success?   

maybe time has come to have an honest appraisal of the situation, stop putting unqualified men in and get someone with pedigree.  Frank Dawson was a disastrous appointment but at least he came with a CV in Co. Down so I can at least see the sense in his why appointment was made. Fitsy and Geroid seem like good fellas who have antrim's best interests at heart but appear to be out of their depth strategically and neither was really qualified to manage an intercounty team, certainly one with aspirations.

Don't believe anyone really believes with the players we have there is an all-Ireland in antrim, but we are certainly top of div 3 / lower div 2 standard when playing well.  Jumping into the 'coz hes from antrim' reasoning sounds a lot like the xenophobic arguments the England soccer management discussions used to have. 

Big call for Antrim Vision as their next management team selection will tell us if they are serious or are just going to pick any old manager and hope for the best as the old regime did. Whatever they do, they need to fully explain their reasoning for any appointments.


The circumstances he had to deal with in Ballinderry were tragic and I don't think anybody would of won a SFC with them so I think your doing him an injustice there.

Frank Dawson was a disaster from the word go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 27, 2016, 11:48:54 AM
Certainly, the tragic circumstances with Aaron undoubtedly had an effect. Besides that, an intermediate title in tyrone, Div 2 with Portglenone and few months with Coalisland is not an acceptable CV for an intercounty manager. As I said, perhaps in the future with more success and experience but not yet. The county managers position is supposed to be the ultimate recognition of sustained years of senior club management experience and success - not the starting point to a management career.
   
Agree with frank comment but the principal of his appointment had merit at least. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 27, 2016, 12:13:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 27, 2016, 11:48:54 AM
Certainly, the tragic circumstances with Aaron undoubtedly had an effect. Besides that, an intermediate title in tyrone, Div 2 with Portglenone and few months with Coalisland is not an acceptable CV for an intercounty manager. As I said, perhaps in the future with more success and experience but not yet. The county managers position is supposed to be the ultimate recognition of sustained years of senior club management experience and success - not the starting point to a management career.
   
Agree with frank comment but the principal of his appointment had merit at least.

Agree with what your saying about Johns CV, but I don't think that should go against him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dualta Duane on June 27, 2016, 12:14:39 PM
Harbinson came into a team that was very VERY good. They had back to back titles, been beaten in all ireland a few years before so they were gunning for gory with or without him. I'd question his familiarity with the local talent as he's not been involved in taking teams since. That said, when they won AI he was well organised etc... but not for me.
Maybe i've missed it, but are the two lads stepping down? I'd like to see them have a crack at Div 3...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2016, 01:10:19 PM
No one here has suggested the management must go. They are good Antrim Gaels and should be treated with respect.

They know that they are in a results driven environment and whilst there was lots to like pre the flat Croke Pk display, everything since then has been sub standard. Fitzy and Gearoid will be hurting more than anyone. They will have had opinions too on previous management's and will have on future ones. At the minute they will understand why we are having this discussion and it's only to try and get the best for Antrim football. Nothing personal or anything else.

Some have questioned whether they had the CV to do the job and would their track record have got a county job anywhere else. That's fair enough isn't it?

I liked the way Fitzy was big enough to freshen things up this time last year and if he is going to still be involved he will know that something has to change.  Gearoid must know that that system of play he is implementing hasn't worked anywhere he has been. Not even at St Louis where he had great players on the bench in favour of men who could play his blanket defence muck. I know a lot of parents who weren't at all happy with the way St Louis played with 13 men behind the ball and some of them are good knowledgeable football folk.

That's the main thing that needs to change and everyone knows it. I'd say he will struggle to get past the new board unless he puts his hands up and admits this is not working.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dualta Duane on June 27, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
difficult to understand how some on this forum are calling out the management as being 'out of their depth'. I think people's expectations are too high. We just came out of Div 4 - the bottom drawer!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
A good Antrim man to me is someone who doesn't rip the ar$e out of the expenses ...otherwise it looks as if you're overly interested in the financial gain

All these outside candidates are in interested in the wonga first and foremost. Doesn't sit well with me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 27, 2016, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
A good Antrim man to me is someone who doesn't rip the ar$e out of the expenses ...otherwise it looks as if you're overly interested in the financial gain

All these outside candidates are in interested in the wonga first and foremost. Doesn't sit well with me

Agree but seems to be the way that its going now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2016, 04:45:02 PM
Still doesn't make it right or them 'decent' in my eyes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 02, 2016, 09:45:58 PM
Be nice to see you tomorrow MR2................can u retain unbeaten record ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2016, 10:36:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 02, 2016, 09:45:58 PM
Be nice to see you tomorrow MR2................can u retain unbeaten record ???

We've loads away on hols, you should win by ten!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 04, 2016, 04:20:44 PM
We were lucky MR2........couldn't  handle Niblock and u had sooooo many missing :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2016, 05:53:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 04, 2016, 04:20:44 PM
We were lucky MR2........couldn't  handle Niblock and u had sooooo many missing :)

Closer than I thought... Well done ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 10, 2016, 09:17:44 PM
would someone please enlighten me on how the league proceeds as the opening phase has completed....................and if casements beat teresa's tomorrow evening and finish joint sixth with rossa what then?

Or do I really need to ask the Paddies.................... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on July 10, 2016, 09:41:46 PM
I believe that Rossa will be top 6 as they won the head to head v Portglenone. Next games are on Saturday so CCC should be producing actual games ASAP.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 10, 2016, 10:47:49 PM
Quote from: jdyok on July 10, 2016, 09:41:46 PM
I believe that Rossa will be top 6 as they won the head to head v Rossa. Next games are on Saturday so CCC should be producing actual games ASAP.
So the Paddies have decided on a change to league regulations as previously such was decided on score difference..............but hey this is Antrim.
But what happens next....top six play for league.....if that is the case only the top three are in realistic contention.....is there relegation from top six....what of the rest......in the lower section are they just playing to decide on relegation.....is there no relegation again as it may not suit the previous author of change??????
.....Jeez only in Antrim and all to delay what looks probable again this year.....look which team occupies bottom of the second division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 12, 2016, 08:45:09 PM
Next phase of games are on county website

Rossa in Div 1A

Div 1 B  & 2 B playing to AVOID relegation.

Sarsfields & Rasharkin have 5 games to save themselves from div 3

both have 3 away and 2 home games.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 13, 2016, 10:08:11 AM
The way Div2B is looking, Sarsfields and Rasharkin will be the 2 that will go down. The rest should be good enough to stay up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 13, 2016, 02:25:10 PM
That would be the 2 teams that would have got relegated to Div 3 last year had the leagues not been changed? A league that Sarsfields felt was below them? yet Aghagallon who won that league last year are currently top on div 2? and Davitts who came 3rd/4th in it last year are also in contention for promotion? think Aghagallon and Davitts showed that sometimes going down isn't the end of the world and a good league run can easily be built on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Are points in those divisions reset after the split? Looks like they are according to the country website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Magicsponge on July 13, 2016, 02:33:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 13, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Are points in those divisions reset after the split? Looks like they are according to the country website.

Points will remain as they are now.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/2016-league-competitions-split-details
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2016, 02:41:20 PM
Cheers. Thought it would have been bit unfair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on July 15, 2016, 12:57:59 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 13, 2016, 02:25:10 PM
That would be the 2 teams that would have got relegated to Div 3 last year had the leagues not been changed? A league that Sarsfields felt was below them? yet Aghagallon who won that league last year are currently top on div 2? and Davitts who came 3rd/4th in it last year are also in contention for promotion? think Aghagallon and Davitts showed that sometimes going down isn't the end of the world and a good league run can easily be built on.

Fair play to aghagallon, shit way they went down, shit way they didn't go up last year, no system now will stop them...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 17, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
What's up at Milltown MR2....another defeat :-[?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2016, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 17, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
What's up at Milltown MR2....another defeat :-[?

Making sure the city teams are in the top half!!  Either that or we want to be relegated so we can give the intermediate a go  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 17, 2016, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2016, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 17, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
What's up at Milltown MR2....another defeat :-[?

Making sure the city teams are in the top half!!  Either that or we want to be relegated so we can give the intermediate a go  ;D
I know it is only the league MR2 but the pack are closing in and a top four finish is required re seeding ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2016, 01:28:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 17, 2016, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2016, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 17, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
What's up at Milltown MR2....another defeat :-[?

Making sure the city teams are in the top half!!  Either that or we want to be relegated so we can give the intermediate a go  ;D
I know it is only the league MR2 but the pack are closing in and a top four finish is required re seeding ???

We've a lot of lads on hols to be honest... Seeding is for others to worry about id imagine, you've to beat the best anyway, be it first round of final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2016, 10:49:45 AM
St Galls are hosting West Belfast Talks GAA at the clubs rooms on Monday evening at 7.45pm as part of the festival... our guest speakers will be Paraic Duffy, Donegal ex player Devenney, Sambo and Pete McGrath ... Obviously plenty to talk about with Casement, player welfare, hurling and football well covered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 03, 2016, 11:24:44 AM
Bit of a shock in minor championship with dunloy beating Creggan by a point last night. Creggan would have been favourites for the championship before a ball was kicked.

Dunloy on for a football/hurling double now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on August 03, 2016, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: stiffler on August 03, 2016, 11:24:44 AM
Bit of a shock in minor championship with dunloy beating Creggan by a point last night. Creggan would have been favourites for the championship before a ball was kicked.

Dunloy on for a football/hurling double now.

Dunno how you could be labeled favorites having only played one league game in two months prior a championship game. St Brigids would be favorites now. Dunloy beat them first game of the league with them missing a couple of big players, so I'd say with the full compliment, they'll be a strong outfit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 05, 2016, 09:39:22 AM
Quote from: stiffler on August 03, 2016, 11:24:44 AM
Bit of a shock in minor championship with dunloy beating Creggan by a point last night. Creggan would have been favourites for the championship before a ball was kicked.

Dunloy on for a football/hurling double now.

Creggan would of prob been the favourites for the cship along with st brigid's but calling it a shock is way off the mark. Dunloy have only lost 2 games this year - to Rossa and Creggan - and in both games they were missing alot of players.

Tues nighit was the first time they have fielded the strongest 15 this season. We were more than good for the win being up 0-07 to 0-02 at half time and thats having missing 3 goals but for great saves from the keeper.

Theres been alot of work done at under age level this past few years at football in the club and theres a good management team from U16 up to senior who all work together on the 3 teams. I was very impressed with our lads and with a bit of luck we could end our 39 year wait for a minor title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
With the championship season about to start here are my predictions..

SFC- Cargin

IFC-  St Endas

JFC-  Ardoyne.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 12, 2016, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
With the championship season about to start here are my predictions..

SFC- Cargin

IFC-  St Endas

JFC-  Ardoyne.

Any reasons why you predict the above?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 12, 2016, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 12, 2016, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
With the championship season about to start here are my predictions..

SFC- Cargin

IFC-  St Endas

JFC-  Ardoyne.


Any reasons why you predict the above?

Probably because they're the stand out team in each grade. Not being smart by the way but they're the teams that stand out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 12, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 12, 2016, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
With the championship season about to start here are my predictions..

SFC- Cargin

IFC-  St Endas

JFC-  Ardoyne.

Any reasons why you predict the above?

As Mac above said, the 3 stand out teams in the 3 grades.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 12, 2016, 10:14:16 PM
Saw Creggan beat Ahoghill tonite..............not impressed :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2016, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 12, 2016, 10:14:16 PM
Saw Creggan beat Ahoghill tonite..............not impressed :)

They your biggest challengers this year I take it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 13, 2016, 08:59:54 AM
Doubt that MR2......if they do manage to beat Cargin (and indeed they do proclaim such) then the silverware will be Milltown bound.......don't agree then visit PP and u will be well rewarded if right.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 13, 2016, 10:49:21 AM
Was at the game last night. Creggan the deserved winners although gutsy Ahoghill didn't lose anything in defeat. Creggan have definitely kicked on under Kevin and are playing a nice brand of football. Got a good handful of scoring forwards which they haven't had before (two Small brothers take some watching) and plenty of football throughout the team.

Creggan have to be in the mix for silverware. I see the winners of them and Cargin lifting the silverware and keeping the title in the South West.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 13, 2016, 05:35:15 PM
You may well be right Bannside but I doubt if Kickhams have a defensive unit to match their own ambitions and ur expectations.

They just could not cope with young Dan O' Neill last nite, and Ahoghill spurned a couple of goals chances as well.

The last time I looked Mr Power had them at 16/1.........back you assessment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 15, 2016, 09:39:26 PM
After what I saw tonight I would have to say that in my opinion Cargin are by a fair bit the best team in the county right now. Made Creggan look very ordinary tonight and some of the football they are playing is as good as it gets. Credit where it's due, that was a joy to watch.

Can't see anyone stopping them this year in Antrim and would expect them to be better prepared for Ulster this time round too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 16, 2016, 03:07:23 PM
Was at the game as well Bannside, and I do agree that we looked good but having spoken to JB post game he does suggest that the quality of the opposition needs to be assessed.

Creggan are a long way off he thinks and he does suggest that Cargin have a bit to go to reach peak and tougher games do lie ahead.

Have to agree with such sentiment and agree that to reclaim senior title LD and the Milltown men will prove stiffer tests.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 22, 2016, 09:30:14 AM
big win for ourselves on sat evening against St. Endas. went to extra time and held them scoreless to get through. very impressed with the lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 22, 2016, 09:46:11 AM
Why are Glenravel Con Magees playing in the Junior championship when they are a Division 2 team?  Surely thats not right?

Them and Ardoyne should be a good semi final.

Antrim will beat St Malachys in the other semi final, they are not a bad team and should put it up to the winners of the other semi final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 22, 2016, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 22, 2016, 09:46:11 AM
Why are Glenravel Con Magees playing in the Junior championship when they are a Division 2 team?  Surely thats not right?

Them and Ardoyne should be a good semi final.

Antrim will beat St Malachys in the other semi final, they are not a bad team and should put it up to the winners of the other semi final

They were a Div2 team this season because the leagues changed and they went up by default if you like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 22, 2016, 11:05:43 PM
Who cares? Ardoyne will beat them easy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 22, 2016, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2016, 09:30:14 AM
big win for ourselves on sat evening against St. Endas. went to extra time and held them scoreless to get through. very impressed with the lads

Did not surprise me in the slightest. St Enda's got a wee bit of learning to do yet in my opioion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2016, 08:50:25 AM
Quote from: Hectic on August 22, 2016, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2016, 09:30:14 AM
big win for ourselves on sat evening against St. Endas. went to extra time and held them scoreless to get through. very impressed with the lads

Did not surprise me in the slightest. St Enda's got a wee bit of learning to do yet in my opioion.

To be fair St Endas shot a lot of poor wides and had enough chances to win the game themselves. We did ride our luck and ended up coming through. St Endas look to have a good team in the making if they can stick at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 24, 2016, 07:46:44 PM
I just think Dunloy have the know how that St Endas lack right now. Saw it in last years Championship. St End as are still on an upward curve generally but have a few things to add to their game, most notably a wee bit of a ruthless streak.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 24, 2016, 11:23:47 PM
Aghagallon had a good win against St Enda's tonight to win Division 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2016, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 24, 2016, 11:23:47 PM
Aghagallon had a good win against St Enda's tonight to win Division 2.

Refereed the first league game between these at Hightown... Very close game and great game to ref... Well done Aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 25, 2016, 08:20:41 AM
So another division one league title secured and the Eddie Fitzsimmons trophy is bound for the Shore road......not that anybody in the club seemed to notice......well think that is the 22nd time, and perhaps the focus is on something else  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
22 championships, a few ulsters and an All Ireland would be the target id imagine??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on August 25, 2016, 08:56:59 AM
Handy enough win for Aghagallon last night to secure the league.

2015, 3rd Division Champions
2016 2nd Division Champions
2017 ???????  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 25, 2016, 09:53:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
22 championships, a few ulsters and an All Ireland would be the target id imagine??
Would be flying a bit high methinks.....but hey one can dream MR2.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 25, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
Glad to see Aghagallon up after the way they were relegated a couple of years ago. Div 1 does not appear as difficult to stay in with the extra teams so no reason Aghagallon could not get a foothold next season and then kick on after that with what is a young team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 26, 2016, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 13, 2016, 10:49:21 AM
Was at the game last night. Creggan the deserved winners although gutsy Ahoghill didn't lose anything in defeat. Creggan have definitely kicked on under Kevin and are playing a nice brand of football. Got a good handful of scoring forwards which they haven't had before (two Small brothers take some watching) and plenty of football throughout the team.

Creggan have to be in the mix for silverware. I see the winners of them and Cargin lifting the silverware and keeping the title in the South West.

???
What game were you watching? A nice brand of football and kicked on?? Complete dross and Creggan are the epitome of the horrible defensive disease that has spread through the game. Fully expecting another 5-3 thriller coming up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
See Cargin have now added reserve league to their earlier championship success, and with the div one title also secured what price an unheralded clean sweep :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
See Cargin have now added reserve league to their earlier championship success, and with the div one title also secured what price an unheralded clean sweep :)

Wow!! Well done , I've booked St Paddies day off  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???

Ah, you seen my smiley I put on at end of post! We won the p5 hurling tournament this year, I never thought I'd put it up as it wasn't important !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 30, 2016, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???

Ah, you seen my smiley I put on at end of post! We won the p5 hurling tournament this year, I never thought I'd put it up as it wasn't important !

our U12's won the league shield final on sunday morning. Paddys day booked off in 8 years time  8) ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
So juvenile success ain't important MR2...... :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2016, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 30, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
So juvenile success ain't important MR2...... :-[

It's very important ... Winning reserve isn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on August 31, 2016, 01:13:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2016, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???

Ah, you seen my smiley I put on at end of post! We won the p5 hurling tournament this year, I never thought I'd put it up as it wasn't important !

our U12's won the league shield final on sunday morning. Paddys day booked off in 8 years time  8) ;D

Catch a grip lads, grow up. I enjoy the insight and wit on this site, but the immaturity on last few posts do you boys no credit.

Cargin
Aldergrove
Ardoyne

P.s.
Tipp
Dubs

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2016, 07:21:42 AM
St Brigids vs Dunloy in the minor final after last nights semi finals. Should be a tight game I would think

Side point. Maybe I'm being picky, but IMO its was a poorly presented pitch in Rasharkin last night for a championship semi final ... didn't respect the competition IMO especially when you consider the favorable weather this past few days. Will need a McHale Fusion 3 to lift the grass when they next cut it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2016, 07:42:42 AM
Quote from: bogieman on August 31, 2016, 01:13:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2016, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???

Ah, you seen my smiley I put on at end of post! We won the p5 hurling tournament this year, I never thought I'd put it up as it wasn't important !

our U12's won the league shield final on sunday morning. Paddys day booked off in 8 years time  8) ;D

Catch a grip lads, grow up. I enjoy the insight and wit on this site, but the immaturity on last few posts do you boys no credit.

Cargin
Aldergrove
Ardoyne

P.s.
Tipp
Dubs

Ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 31, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
On the Dreen pitch,its a fair comment the grass was long last night.  However i am pretty sure the man in charge didn't know that game was on as it would not usually be the case.

Great win for Dunloy, some serious talent coming through to senior in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2016, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: bogieman on August 31, 2016, 01:13:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2016, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???

Ah, you seen my smiley I put on at end of post! We won the p5 hurling tournament this year, I never thought I'd put it up as it wasn't important !

our U12's won the league shield final on sunday morning. Paddys day booked off in 8 years time  8) ;D

Catch a grip lads, grow up. I enjoy the insight and wit on this site, but the immaturity on last few posts do you boys no credit.

Cargin
Aldergrove
Ardoyne

P.s.
Tipp
Dubs

:( ruined the fun  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
Quote from: Dreen on August 31, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
On the Dreen pitch,its a fair comment the grass was long last night.  However i am pretty sure the man in charge didn't know that game was on as it would not usually be the case.

Great win for Dunloy, some serious talent coming through to senior in both codes.

Have to say it was poor condition for a semi final of a championship. dont like to have a go as any time ive been there this year for a match your always well looked after from start to finish but they should of known and made sure it was cut.

regardless it was a good performance from the lads from start to finish, was impressed with them and their overall play esp from long range passing.

i know they beat St Bridget's this year but it was the first game of the season and may as well disregard that. Should be a good game in store.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2016, 09:37:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 31, 2016, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: bogieman on August 31, 2016, 01:13:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2016, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 28, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
U being a little touchy MR2, or is it an attempt at sarcasm, sure as my old mum would say 'sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit'.... ???

Ah, you seen my smiley I put on at end of post! We won the p5 hurling tournament this year, I never thought I'd put it up as it wasn't important !

our U12's won the league shield final on sunday morning. Paddys day booked off in 8 years time  8) ;D

Catch a grip lads, grow up. I enjoy the insight and wit on this site, but the immaturity on last few posts do you boys no credit.

Cargin
Aldergrove
Ardoyne

P.s.
Tipp
Dubs

:( ruined the fun  ;D
[/quote  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on August 31, 2016, 11:13:55 PM
Thanks lads

P.s.s St Brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2016, 11:25:40 PM
The minor final could turn out to be the game of the year between 2 excellent well coached teams. Not a game to be missed.

Has a date or venue been fixed?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 01, 2016, 09:16:14 AM
Friday the 23rd has been penciled in for the final. No venue decided but it would need to be at 7 sharp as its getting dark now earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
Did you guys have any county minors dr?

I always liked the minor final before the senior final though that seems to have stopped. Thought it worked well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 01, 2016, 09:29:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
Did you guys have any county minors dr?

I always liked the minor final before the senior final though that seems to have stopped. Thought it worked well.

1 footballer. A few more went with the hurlers 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 01, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
Did you guys have any county minors dr?

I always liked the minor final before the senior final though that seems to have stopped. Thought it worked well.

if the Hurling and Football finals aren't going as a double header then the minor game in each code should be the curtain raiser.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2016, 09:56:38 AM
Yeah didn't remember too many. There have always been very talented footballers in dunloy but hurling seems to have the priority. very good minor teams mid 90s ish. Probably only stinsons better than you then.

I would agree mac. Doesn't seem we like hurling and football double headers but maybe they don't work with geography etc anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 01, 2016, 11:15:35 AM
Minor A and Minor B Football Finals on 23rd September under lights in Ahoghill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2016, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 01, 2016, 10:01:25 AM
Aren't Dunloy either in both or have a good chance of making both? The Johnnies won both a few years there and we won both a couple of years ago. Playing the minor finals on the same day doesn't work for that reason.

Hurlers play Creggan on sat in their ground in the semi final of the hurling. If they play to their ability we should win comfortable enough.

would leave us in both the minor hurling & football county finals. camogs won the minor B championship earlier this year so a unique treble is possible for the club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2016, 10:49:53 AM
See Glenravel and St Comgall's have made it to the junior final..............well done to both :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 02, 2016, 02:14:01 PM
Antrim vs St Mals was a bit closer than expected.  Expected Antrim to win more comfortably. 

Glenravel be favourites for the final now youd imagine after taking out Ardoyne
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2016, 11:57:13 PM
Jeez Cargin were rubbish and lucky to be still in there ........the question is will they be as bad next time ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2016, 12:09:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2016, 11:57:13 PM
Jeez Cargin were rubbish and lucky to be still in there ........the question is will they be as bad next time ???

Rubbish ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2016, 12:27:34 AM
Great entertainment at Ahoghill tonight as a huge crowd came out to see the double header.  All Saints gave the Johnnies their fill of it for 45 minutes until Sean Mc Veigh went off, and matched them all over the pitch. Great performances from Peter and Paul Mc Cann, Peter Mc Nicholl and at times Pizza Mc Reynolds looked unstoppable. But Johnnies found the most when it mattered and led by big Kevin Mc Glinchey, Matt Fitz, Jack Hannagan and their impressive number 11, ran out deserving winners.

The next game was a belter and epitomised what the GAA is all about.  Two neighbouring parishes going full pelt from start to finish. The intensity levels rose several notches and the hits going in were ferocious at times, excellently handled by Sean Laverty.

Creggan came from seven points down to snatch a draw with the last kick of the game. A lot to like about their performance and Kevin Madden got his match ups perfect all over the pitch.  I know I said Cargin looked unbeatable after seeing these teams meet two weeks ago, but Madden sent his team out tonight a completely different championship animal and all I can say is do not miss this replay as truly it could go either way.

Kobo and Tony Scullion will probably miss the replay with injuries and that's in Creggan favour. They didn't look like a team that wanted to lose tonight, and played with borderline ferocity which you rarely see in Antrim Football.

It's truly a 50/50 match up in the replay.

PS.  Ciaran Close played at a different level at times. 100% still the best corner forward in Antrim Football, even at 34.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 03, 2016, 12:55:31 AM
You are right bumpkin we where terrible tonight we played for ten minutes after they got the goal and we stopped as if the game was won ,our forward line was very poor with Tomas only getting into the game at the end and the full back line were out played most of the game kobo should have been off much earlier as he was clearly injured and we missed Tony's pace and support play after he went off closely and Gerard McCann best on the pitch for cargin .Creggan done well in the middle and where a lot hungrier for the breaking ball can't agree with you ban side about the ref he seemed to give a lot of easy frees  till creggan in the last ten minutes that were not givin at the other end but fair play till creggan they stuck at it till the end and it nearly paid of for them.Lets hope the replay is at a danceable time there will a massive crowd that's for sure ,this is what Antrim football needs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 03, 2016, 12:58:40 AM
What's the rule on replays ? I thought it was only finals which go to a 2nd game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2016, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 03, 2016, 12:58:40 AM
What's the rule on replays ? I thought it was only finals which go to a 2nd game.

Not at senior level??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 03, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2016, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 03, 2016, 12:58:40 AM
What's the rule on replays ? I thought it was only finals which go to a 2nd game.

Not at senior level??

Reg 6 & 7 from 2015.
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2015-Championship-regulations.pdf

Rev.1
St Galls
Aldergrove
Antrim
St Brigid's
Tipp
Dubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2016, 09:12:59 AM
Had a look at rule governing senior championship bogieman but I cannot fInd the rule stating, 'Games involving Cargin must be played on a Friday evening no earlier than 8.00pm'.
Replay scheduled for Ahoghill Friday at 8.00pm again when Sunday would be available and most certainly will ensure a lot of kids will not be in attendance.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2016, 09:16:57 AM
More championship games today. Three of the big city teams involved so I wonder will there be the same large gate and atmosphere as last night.

Portglenone usually bring a good crowd with them but St Galls beat us by 18 points in the league so is there any point in turning up at all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 03, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 03, 2016, 09:16:57 AM
More championship games today. Three of the big city teams involved so I wonder will there be the same large gate and atmosphere as last night.

Portglenone usually bring a good crowd with them but St Galls beat us by 18 points in the league so is there any point in turning up at all?

How much did Cargin beat Creggan by in the league a matter of weeks ago ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2016, 09:34:11 AM
Bs are peter and paul mccann still playing? Peter must be over 40 now.

Good to see creggan make a game of it. They have some handy footballers but just hadn't transitioned to senior yet. Hopefully this is the start of it and there will be more than 2 genuine contenders for the championship every year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2016, 10:11:00 AM
Aye ITG. Peter McCann would be 40 now and still playing really well. Paul has bad knees so popped into goals a few years back and been there ever since. Turned out a great keeper.

My own playing days were with All Saints and apart from great memories of going from Division 5 to Division 1 and winning junior, intermediate and several O Cahan Cups I still have a lot of time for them.

I couldn't help but think during last night's game, that with 45 to 50 minutes gone, Ballymena were giving St John's their total fill of it. The unusual thing about that was that over the last 10 years all we saw was St John's  clean up feile,  underage, minor, under 21 titles galore, and Ballymena wouldnt even have been on their radar. But at senior level it took the loss of Snowey Mc Veigh from injury before St John's could put any daylight between them.

Just an observation that often juvenile success often translates to nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2016, 10:18:06 AM
Cheers bs. Yeah it is good to see ballymena back doing well. They now have a great setup and obviously have a lot of work going in.

Underage success helps but is no guarantee of anything. St johns seem to have trouble transitioning underage to senior success in football or hurling at the minute which is a pity as i think a strong st johns would be good for antrim. Maybe rossa stepping up which they seem to be doing will push them on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2016, 10:53:25 AM
Bannside, would it be possible that your observations on the goings on at Ahoghill last nite were tinged by a little bias?
Your club mate K Madden got his 'match ups' right you say......but hey he sent out the Creggan team in exactly the same positions as they occupied in the league.
Madden's men had a catch and kick tactic and such was correct policy in damp conditions, with Cargin, barring a ten minute period in which they underlined their undoubted capabilities adding 2-4 without reply by delivering quickly and accurately into the front men, but falling into disarray thereafter with just a few of their number producing form.
Did you fail to notice Bannside that Creggan just had a couple of points from play over the hour and how many were carried forward?
Was the equalizing score arriving in the 65th minute really a free or did the big mid fielder take a dive......?
Think your memory is fading a little Bannside.....did the Ballymena men really win 'several' O'Cahan Cups' ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2016, 01:38:39 PM
Unlike yourself CB I have no allegiance to either club so can only write what I saw. That was one team playing with heart and determination as the other folded. Two weeks ago I said Cargin were untouchable in Antrim, but last night Creggan blew that theory out of the water. It was you guys who were crying out for the whistle.

As regards being biased towards Madden that's a joke. Regardless of whether or not we are from the same club is irrelevant. Last night he got it 99% right and if it had of been 100%, Cargin would be out.

But you're not. And you might regroup and put Creggan lights out ion Friday night. Probably the 16 point hammering you gave them two weeks ago left you complacent and maybe that wont happen again.

But I will call it as I see it no matter who the manager is or the club is. After all its only one opinion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2016, 01:44:37 PM
Regarding O Cahan Cups. I recall putting a 45 over the bar with the last kick of the game to beat Cargin in a final by a point in late eighties. Can't remember the year. I lost a couple of finals. I think a year or two after I retired Ballymena won another. Some ride from Division 5 starting at Hugomont and all done within 10 years.

So I love to see the town competing well with the like of St John's. When we were growing up you darent wear a GAA  shirt in the town. Unbelievable how far All Saints have come and talking to a few of their current stalwarts they have a great crop coming through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2016, 02:07:08 PM
St Galls 1/16 with Toals.  Bad wet oul day maybe we should stay at home lol. Ach sure there's nothing to lose we might as well go. What times it at again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 04, 2016, 03:33:22 AM
Well...we did turn up and gave it a bit of a lash, and had the temerity to go level with ten minutes left.

Credit to St Galls who kicked on using everyour inch of their experience to close out a result.

Down round our way we can deal with that.  We would expect to be winning these kind of matches in the next year or two and that should leave us there or thereabouts. All part of a learning curve for us. We will put this one down to experience but  it won't be long until we are at the right end of these contests.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 04, 2016, 08:57:47 AM
Good day for Dunloy yesterday with a fine win vs div 1 opposition in aldergrove. Their minor footballers flying high also. With their hurlers out they could give Ulster intermediate a good rattle. If Dunloy were to concentrate on football do you's think they could challenge for senior honours?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:38:46 AM
I think Cargin thought the game was won so eased up and I think they will succeed handy enough in the replay but fair play to Creggan for keeping up an intensity until the end and they deserved their draw.

St Johns I felt weathered a determined Ballymena but in truth it is a game they never looked like losing.

Still think Carbon will be lifting the cup again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:42:15 AM
Never got to any games yesterday but delighted for Dunloy who always have very talented footballers and a good mentality for big games.

Aghagallon will be favourites but last years experience will ensure Dunloy are strong contenders.

Aldergrove will probably want to keep playing intermediate given they are still a bit off winning at this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 04, 2016, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 04, 2016, 03:33:22 AM
Well...we did turn up and gave it a bit of a lash, and had the temerity to go level with ten minutes left.

Credit to St Galls who kicked on using everyour inch of their experience to close out a result.

Down round our way we can deal with that.  We would expect to be winning these kind of matches in the next year or two and that should leave us there or thereabouts. All part of a learning curve for us. We will put this one down to experience but  it won't be long until we are at the right end of these contests.
learn to live with championship reversals Bannside.......jeez cargin people are the masters in such......
Was at the Intermediate semis yesterday and was really impressed with Aghagallon....they look more than capable of moving onward and upwards but will reserve judgement when I see how they cope with Dunloy in the Intermediate final.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...

That is true but having watched the game and on the basis Ardoyne were blowing everyone out of the water in Div 3 I do not think it is too much of a reach to say Glenravel now favourites. But Glenravel seem to have a problem in finals recently so Antrim cannot be discounted. I was at a double header final in Casement a few years ago when Glenravel were supposed to just show up yet the did not show at all and Ardoyne strolled home. But sure as you point out what do I know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...

That is true but having watched the game and on the basis Ardoyne were blowing everyone out of the water in Div 3 I do not think it is too much of a reach to say Glenravel now favourites. But Glenravel seem to have a problem in finals recently so Antrim cannot be discounted. I was at a double header final in Casement a few years ago when Glenravel were supposed to just show up yet the did not show at all and Ardoyne strolled home. But sure as you point out what do I know!

I was also at the that Double Header and a 1pt victory is hardly strolling home.. Considering Ardoyne only scored 1pt in the second half also.

Our lads will have it tight against Dunloy in the IFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
If memory serves me correct Ardoyne had the game won at half time and eased up and let the clock run down then had a bit of a sweat the last few minutes. If memory serves me correct Aghagallon played out an entertaining draw with Sarsfields after in the Intermediate final after.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 10:46:09 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
If memory serves me correct Ardoyne had the game won at half time and eased up and let the clock run down then had a bit of a sweat the last few minutes. If memory serves me correct Aghagallon played out an entertaining draw with Sarsfields after in the Intermediate final after.

Your full of sh1t. They got 1 lucky goal in the first half and Glenravel peppered them in the second half and hit both posts and kicked wide after wide!

You must really dislike Glenravel for some reason.

Was a great game that evening for both teams and a neutral.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 05, 2016, 07:22:18 AM
On the contrary I find Glenravel one of the best grounds to visit, facilities are top class and the locals are always friendly.

Look I only call it as I see it but that's just my opinions and everyone iis entitled to a different opinion. Is that not the idea in debate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2016, 07:38:55 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 04, 2016, 08:57:47 AM
If Dunloy were to concentrate on football do you's think they could challenge for senior honours?
Dya reckon we (or indeed any dual club) should give that question some consideration?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 05, 2016, 08:42:07 AM
I do not know how high Dunloy could go concentrating on football only.  It is a completely hypothetical question anyway as generally hurling seems to be the first love in those parts.  What I would say though is that they show year after year in the Championship that they are a better team than their league standing suggests.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 05, 2016, 08:47:04 AM
On that subject, PaddyJohn what is the feeling in Aghagallon regarding the intermediate Championship final - after an excellent season there must be a fair bit of confidence going into the final especially now that Aldergrove are out of the way though the fact you are playing the team that sunk them I imagine you would not be taking it lightly (as no final should be taken anyway).  That evening we have been reminiscing about youse were strong favourites to beat Sarsfields who were a division 3 team at the time though were probably happy enough to take a replay in the end?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2016, 09:59:04 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 05, 2016, 08:47:04 AM
On that subject, PaddyJohn what is the feeling in Aghagallon regarding the intermediate Championship final - after an excellent season there must be a fair bit of confidence going into the final especially now that Aldergrove are out of the way though the fact you are playing the team that sunk them I imagine you would not be taking it lightly (as no final should be taken anyway).  That evening we have been reminiscing about youse were strong favourites to beat Sarsfields who were a division 3 team at the time though were probably happy enough to take a replay in the end?

Your right, no final should be taken lightly, the lads have prepared well and they'll give it a lash.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 05, 2016, 10:10:12 AM
Are the intermediate and junior finals a double header again this year and if so has the date been released yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2016, 10:32:38 AM
24th Sept I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 05, 2016, 10:40:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 05, 2016, 10:32:38 AM
24th Sept I believe.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 05, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...

That is true but having watched the game and on the basis Ardoyne were blowing everyone out of the water in Div 3 I do not think it is too much of a reach to say Glenravel now favourites. But Glenravel seem to have a problem in finals recently so Antrim cannot be discounted. I was at a double header final in Casement a few years ago when Glenravel were supposed to just show up yet the did not show at all and Ardoyne strolled home. But sure as you point out what do I know!

I was also at the that Double Header and a 1pt victory is hardly strolling home.. Considering Ardoyne only scored 1pt in the second half also.

Our lads will have it tight against Dunloy in the IFC.

We played Dunloy in the winter league up there about 6 years ago.  They where one of the worst teams I had ever played against.  They have obviously come a long way since then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 05, 2016, 12:00:50 PM
Cargin v Creggan part two is Sat 10th back at Ahoghill 6.00pm.........wonder which cargin team will show up this time ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 05, 2016, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 05, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 05, 2016, 12:00:50 PM
Cargin v Creggan part two is Sat 10th back at Ahoghill 6.00pm.........wonder which cargin team will show up this time ???
Rossa v Lámh Dhearg part two is Saturday 24th!!

Anyone got the semi draw for the senior? Couldn't find it on the fixtures section of the county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on September 05, 2016, 04:50:06 PM
Cargin or Creggan v St John's
St Gall's v Rossa or Lamh Dhearg
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 05, 2016, 07:21:44 PM
As you are my financial adviser on punting MR2.......Cargin are now at 9/4 to regain title......what u think......will the real Cargin show up again this year?
Need your help and a possible commission may well be forthcoming.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2016, 08:06:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 05, 2016, 07:21:44 PM
As you are my financial adviser on punting MR2.......Cargin are now at 9/4 to regain title......what u think......will the real Cargin show up again this year?
Need your help and a possible commission may well be forthcoming.

That is a steal, will lump on that... but if that question mark over Cargin's mental toughness is questioned by Creggan or even the Johnnies should they beat Creggan, they could fold
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 05, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Have done so already good price indeed  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2016, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 05, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...

That is true but having watched the game and on the basis Ardoyne were blowing everyone out of the water in Div 3 I do not think it is too much of a reach to say Glenravel now favourites. But Glenravel seem to have a problem in finals recently so Antrim cannot be discounted. I was at a double header final in Casement a few years ago when Glenravel were supposed to just show up yet the did not show at all and Ardoyne strolled home. But sure as you point out what do I know!

I was also at the that Double Header and a 1pt victory is hardly strolling home.. Considering Ardoyne only scored 1pt in the second half also.

Our lads will have it tight against Dunloy in the IFC.

We played Dunloy in the winter league up there about 6 years ago.  They where one of the worst teams I had ever played against.  They have obviously come a long way since then.

The football set up was a complete shambells back then. Only a small few cared or were interested in how they did.

Now they have a development committee set up simliar to the hurling, they have good people in charge of the teams and the progress is there to be seen on the pitch. The U12's won the league shield, U14's beat in South West Feile final, U16's beat in the final and now the minors into the county final.

The good work has been years in the making but its starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

2 of that minor team played last night in the win over randalstown scoring 2-08 between them.

They are even better hurlers as well :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 07, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2016, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 05, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...

That is true but having watched the game and on the basis Ardoyne were blowing everyone out of the water in Div 3 I do not think it is too much of a reach to say Glenravel now favourites. But Glenravel seem to have a problem in finals recently so Antrim cannot be discounted. I was at a double header final in Casement a few years ago when Glenravel were supposed to just show up yet the did not show at all and Ardoyne strolled home. But sure as you point out what do I know!

I was also at the that Double Header and a 1pt victory is hardly strolling home.. Considering Ardoyne only scored 1pt in the second half also.

Our lads will have it tight against Dunloy in the IFC.

We played Dunloy in the winter league up there about 6 years ago.  They where one of the worst teams I had ever played against.  They have obviously come a long way since then.

The football set up was a complete shambells back then. Only a small few cared or were interested in how they did.

Now they have a development committee set up simliar to the hurling, they have good people in charge of the teams and the progress is there to be seen on the pitch. The U12's won the league shield, U14's beat in South West Feile final, U16's beat in the final and now the minors into the county final.

The good work has been years in the making but its starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

2 of that minor team played last night in the win over randalstown scoring 2-08 between them.

They are even better hurlers as well :)

I'll give yous 100/1 vs Aghagallon  ;D

In D3, Antrim have a chance in the final, they are no mugs and would be a lot more defensively minded than Ardoyne who where suspect defensively, just nobody in D3 could exploit it.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 07, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2016, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 05, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 04, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
Finally Junior and I strongly fancy Glenravel if they keep their focus. Was at their game with Ardoyne on Thursday and they opened up looking like they were going to blow the opposition away only to go to sleep and found themselves 4 behind early in the second half. They then seemed to give themselves a shake and turned that into a 5 point win with a strong showing in the last 25 mins. Where Antrim will have optimism is that Glenravel have lost a couple of finals recently when fancied but if they show up for the full 60 mins Antrim will not live with them.

Sure you had Ardoyne tipped to beat Glenravel...

That is true but having watched the game and on the basis Ardoyne were blowing everyone out of the water in Div 3 I do not think it is too much of a reach to say Glenravel now favourites. But Glenravel seem to have a problem in finals recently so Antrim cannot be discounted. I was at a double header final in Casement a few years ago when Glenravel were supposed to just show up yet the did not show at all and Ardoyne strolled home. But sure as you point out what do I know!

I was also at the that Double Header and a 1pt victory is hardly strolling home.. Considering Ardoyne only scored 1pt in the second half also.

Our lads will have it tight against Dunloy in the IFC.

We played Dunloy in the winter league up there about 6 years ago.  They where one of the worst teams I had ever played against.  They have obviously come a long way since then.

The football set up was a complete shambells back then. Only a small few cared or were interested in how they did.

Now they have a development committee set up simliar to the hurling, they have good people in charge of the teams and the progress is there to be seen on the pitch. The U12's won the league shield, U14's beat in South West Feile final, U16's beat in the final and now the minors into the county final.

The good work has been years in the making but its starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

2 of that minor team played last night in the win over randalstown scoring 2-08 between them.

They are even better hurlers as well :)

I'll give yous 100/1 vs Aghagallon  ;D

In D3, Antrim have a chance in the final, they are no mugs and would be a lot more defensively minded than Ardoyne who where suspect defensively, just nobody in D3 could exploit it.

I will have £50 at those odds please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 12:11:16 PM
ill def take them odds lol

we have been underdogs in each game and gave no chance. It suits us down to a tee. Were getting all the dual players now theres no hurling to look at along with a good minor panel on board. it gives us a chance but we know we arent favourites again.

Look its all about progression and development of the game in the club back to a level where we once were at many moons ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 07, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
Is paddy Bradley still involved with the Dunloy setup? Haven't seen any odds yet but would Dunloy not be slight favourites for intermediate honours now especially after dumping a div 1 team out in the last round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 01:20:40 PM
paddy just called in to take a session, he helped out last year but not this season.

I wouldnt put us favs for the game, we have only gathered form to the tail end of the season and Aghagallon have been consistent all year. they gave moneyglass a good pasting in the semi final so i would make them the favourites for the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 07, 2016, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 07, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
Is paddy Bradley still involved with the Dunloy setup? Haven't seen any odds yet but would Dunloy not be slight favourites for intermediate honours now especially after dumping a div 1 team out in the last round?

No, look at the league tables and that should tell you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 07, 2016, 05:15:08 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 07, 2016, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 07, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
Is paddy Bradley still involved with the Dunloy setup? Haven't seen any odds yet but would Dunloy not be slight favourites for intermediate honours now especially after dumping a div 1 team out in the last round?

No, look at the league tables and that should tell you.
Have a look at the league tables indeed C Lights, Cargin have finished top of the pile in league on a lot of occasions, think was 20 plus....six championship titles.....tells a tale.
Have seen both Aghagallon and Dunloy in action this year and although I will say the St Mary's men have impressed, as a betting man I would not risk a penny against a Dunloy side which has character in bucket loads.
Could go either way ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 07, 2016, 07:26:58 PM
Any man who is betting on championship games based on league tables will be in the poor house!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2016, 04:04:36 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 07, 2016, 07:26:58 PM
Any man who is betting on championship games based on league tables will be in the poor house!

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 08:39:03 AM
A lot will depend on how the Aghagallon full back performs. If he does not get to grips with the high ball into young Woody for the full 60 mins he will find the net a time or two. If the Aghagallon full back line concentrate too much on one man Dunloy have the pace in the corners to reap the rewards. Aghagallon are stronger in their general play but there is still a beauty about a route one high punt, a high field and score which Dunloy can do very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 09, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
Dunloy a hurling club lads.  They haven't a hope.  Aghagallon ripping through every team this year, Dunloy will be the next to experience this.  Im predicting a 2nd year in a row final defeat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 09, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
Dunloy a hurling club lads.  They haven't a hope.  Aghagallon ripping through every team this year, Dunloy will be the next to experience this.  Im predicting a 2nd year in a row final defeat.

Bit of cute hoorism there maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on September 09, 2016, 10:23:07 AM
Aghagallon very impressive this year against us, well drilled and knew they were going different places next season.

Championship as we all know is a different animal as Dunloy have proven v higher league opposition.

Personally i think we should have beaten Aldergrove ourselves and saw it as no surprise that Dunloy beat them as they on their day are as dangerous as any side.

The intermediate has been a good championship this season and and the split in leagues has intensified the bottom half of the Division 2 with all games having meaning and less likely dead rubbers. Every game since the split has been like championship must win for some.

Hope for a good footballing final devoid of negativity and good luck to both
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2016, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 09, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
Dunloy a hurling club lads.  They haven't a hope.  Aghagallon ripping through every team this year, Dunloy will be the next to experience this.  Im predicting a 2nd year in a row final defeat.

Our DUAL club has no hope against their football club. were just lucky to be there at all having beaten all the teams better than us in the championship.

Weve nothing to lose at all. we lose, ah well back next year. we win, jaysus we just beat a really top football club.

Its win win for us no matter what.  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Dreen on September 09, 2016, 10:23:07 AM
Aghagallon very impressive this year against us, well drilled and knew they were going different places next season.

Championship as we all know is a different animal as Dunloy have proven v higher league opposition.

Personally i think we should have beaten Aldergrove ourselves and saw it as no surprise that Dunloy beat them as they on their day are as dangerous as any side.

The intermediate has been a good championship this season and and the split in leagues has intensified the bottom half of the Division 2 with all games having meaning and less likely dead rubbers. Every game since the split has been like championship must win for some.

Hope for a good footballing final devoid of negativity and good luck to both

Do you think?

From looking at results it seems to me that from before the split Randalstown, Moneyglass and Sarsfields had packed it in. Moneyglass then had to get up to secure their status the other night when pressure came along and you will see the same from Randalstown tonight meaning all is settled before the last round of fixtures.

And throw in that the split games were mostly over the summer months when teams are traditionally decimated by holidays I am failing to see Championship approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on September 09, 2016, 04:56:05 PM
None of the 3 teams you mentioned gave anything away lightly and if any team would leave winning to secure status till their penultimate game then it would be folly.
Did you see any of the games yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: Dreen on September 09, 2016, 04:56:05 PM
None of the 3 teams you mentioned gave anything away lightly and if any team would leave winning to secure status till their penultimate game then it would be folly.
Did you see any of the games yourself?

I think a couple of those teams were more or less safe until Dunloy and Rasharkin rallied.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on September 10, 2016, 11:22:25 AM
There was no team safe until this week and when Moneyglass were 8 down to Dunloy at HT i'm sure they didn't see themselves as more or less safe.

All sorted now after Randalstown win last night and hopefully no restructuring of the leagues in the winter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 10, 2016, 11:53:14 AM
Fair play to Aghagallon.  They were Royally screwed by the old County clique when they got demoted to Division 3, and the South West banned their underage teams from home games a couple of seasons back in a completely unreasonable application of the providing club referees rule - created a lot of bad feeling as to how they were being treated.  But they've put the head down and are one game away from a league and championship double.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 10, 2016, 11:53:14 AM
Fair play to Aghagallon.  They were Royally screwed by the old County clique when they got demoted to Division 3, and the South West banned their underage teams from home games a couple of seasons back in a completely unreasonable application of the providing club referees rule - created a lot of bad feeling as to how they were being treated.  But they've put the head down and are one game away from a league and championship double.

Nothing wrong with the rule!! Don't have a referee then you must play away from home !! Been about years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 10, 2016, 04:30:57 PM
Nothing wrong with most rules if they are applied consistently.  I'd like to see the long list of clubs who had to play away from home because they didn't provide a ref, or maybe the referee shortage is a myth and no one else has broke the rule.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:03:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 10, 2016, 04:30:57 PM
Nothing wrong with most rules if they are applied consistently.  I'd like to see the long list of clubs who had to play away from home because they didn't provide a ref, or maybe the referee shortage is a myth and no one else has broke the rule.
That information I'm sure is available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 10, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Having watched our lads beat Creggan tonite........and it wasn't easy I would like to be educated on the black card rule, I haven't a clue..............but then it seems most of our referees haven't either ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 10, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Having watched our lads beat Creggan tonite........and it wasn't easy I would like to be educated on the black card rule, I haven't a clue..............but then it seems most of our referees haven't either ???

Sorted! Good win then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 12:17:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 10, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Having watched our lads beat Creggan tonite........and it wasn't easy I would like to be educated on the black card rule, I haven't a clue..............but then it seems most of our referees haven't either ???

Its pretty straight forward, if the crowd collectively shout black card loudly it is a black card. Otherwise it is a red card, a yellow card, a tick or nothing. Depending on the level of abuse being dished out by the crowd a collective shout for a black card from said supporters means it is not a black card. There is no ambiguity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:44:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 10, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Having watched our lads beat Creggan tonite........and it wasn't easy I would like to be educated on the black card rule, I haven't a clue..............but then it seems most of our referees haven't either ???

Sorted! Good win then?
Had to work hard for the win MR2 and it took a few outstanding personal contributions and Michael Mc Can in particular to get them over the line........better needed, and tougher tests ahead if the silverware is to return to Rooms.
But I am well on at 9/4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags

Really?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 09:42:16 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags

Good first post there ya tool.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 11, 2016, 02:36:10 PM
Query - was there anything formal about what happened in the Rossa v St Brigids match?

Had heard from a fella in work a Rossa player was booked and then subsequently black carded which I think is a red rather than being allowed to be substituted. Wasn't picked up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2016, 05:05:04 PM
Was at the match last night. Creggan kicked some bad wides in the first half and to me looked the better team. However two bad goals cost them big time.
Michael mc cann ran the game and pulled the strings for cargin. Wasn't overally impressed with cargin but they did what was needed to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 06:43:21 PM
 
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2016, 05:05:04 PM
Was at the match last night. Creggan kicked some bad wides in the first half and to me looked the better team. However two bad goals cost them big time.
Michael mc cann ran the game and pulled the strings for cargin. Wasn't overally impressed with cargin but they did what was needed to win.
Was talking to JB after I scanned ur comments DR he promises to take a look at Dunloy in the Intermediate final and most likely make suitable adjustments to try and reach ur standards......... ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
Cargin did enough but for the neutrals a game that never rose to any heights. Mark Dougan scored 1-08 the first day and was badly missed by Creggan up front and for his frees.

Cargin could go on and win the championship but not on that performance. Mick Mc Cann ran the show.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2016, 05:05:04 PM
Was at the match last night. Creggan kicked some bad wides in the first half and to me looked the better team. However two bad goals cost them big time.
Michael mc cann ran the game and pulled the strings for cargin. Wasn't overally impressed with cargin but they did what was needed to win.
Was talking to JB after I scanned ur comments DR he promises to take a look at Dunloy in the Intermediate final and most likely make suitable adjustments to try and reach ur standards......... ;) :D :D

Well they nearly have as many senior titles as yourselves!! Dunlop were always known back in the day as a football club ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 11, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
Cargin did enough but for the neutrals a game that never rose to any heights. Mark Dougan scored 1-08 the first day and was badly missed by Creggan up front and for his frees.

Cargin could go on and win the championship but not on that performance. Mick Mc Cann ran the show.
Sure Mark Dougan in form is good.....but saw him withdrawn against both Ahoghill and Portglenone in championship and OCahan cup......hit and miss.
No doubt coming from Casements ur hard to please .......do detect a slight prejudice.......can take such comment from MR2 but hey Bannside whether by donkey or Porsche it doesn't make the slightest if u reach ur destination.
Notice u made comment and noticed the absence of Dougan but forgot to add Cargin went into action without TS....Kobo...and lost big Gerard after only a few minutes.
Was pleased to see our boys dismiss a cynical, and for the most part unpunished Creggan......wonder from where such emerged.....but again beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I am sure that JB and the Cargin team will be most upset at the negativity of some of the all knowing keyboard warriors especially from those who yearn for a portion of what they_he has achieved.
Rant over but hate negative critism from those who are, and look likely to remain for a long time only sighted in Carbon's rear view mirror....not u MR2 ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 11, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
Cargin did enough but for the neutrals a game that never rose to any heights. Mark Dougan scored 1-08 the first day and was badly missed by Creggan up front and for his frees.

Cargin could go on and win the championship but not on that performance. Mick Mc Cann ran the show.
Sure Mark Dougan in form is good.....but saw him withdrawn against both Ahoghill and Portglenone in championship and OCahan cup......hit and miss.
No doubt coming from Casements ur hard to please .......do detect a slight prejudice.......can take such comment from MR2 but hey Bannside whether by donkey or Porsche it doesn't make the slightest if u reach ur destination.
Notice u made comment and noticed the absence of Dougan but forgot to add Cargin went into action without TS....Kobo...and lost big Gerard after only a few minutes.
Was pleased to see our boys dismiss a cynical, and for the most part unpunished Creggan......wonder from where such emerged.....but again beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I am sure that JB and the Cargin team will be most upset at the negativity of some of the all knowing keyboard warriors especially from those who yearn for a portion of what they_he has achieved.
Rant over but hate negative critism from those who are, and look likely to remain for a long time only sighted in Carbon's rear view mirror....not u MR2 ;)

Feel better CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 11, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags

Really?

Sure they started off in Armagh, their underage played in Armagh, their camogie plays in Armagh, they go to school in Armagh, most of them support Armagh, so that looks like Armagh men to me! Also does their parish not also run into down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:16:06 PM
Do indeed but hate negative critism from those who are not within a beagle's gowl  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
So did cargin play well or not??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
So did cargin play well or not??
suc question is of irellevance my friend......as I said donkey or Porsche the veichle to the destination is of no concern to Cargin .....we are in the last four.......and I am quite sure they will not be heeding the directions given by those who are on foot and lagging miles behind. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
So did cargin play well or not??
suc question is of irellevance my friend......as I said donkey or Porsche the veichle to the destination is of no concern to Cargin .....we are in the last four.......and I am quite sure they will not be heeding the directions given by those who are on foot and lagging miles behind. ::)

Pride comes before a fall chief.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 11, 2016, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:16:06 PM
Do indeed but hate negative critism from those who are not within a beagle's gowl  :)

So if ur not from st galls or cargin u can't comment on Antrim football? I for one scanned on here looking opinion on the cargin Creggan game so I do appreciate people's views here wether they be from Dunloy, portglenone or anywhere else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
Gees saying you didn't play well is hardly a slight. If you didn't you didn't. Is it not the best place to be to play badly and win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
Can Cargin win this year's championship. Yes maybe. But they were need to.play much more like a Porsche than a donkey. In CB's own words of course.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 08:53:31 PM
So somebody please explain how any team can 'play badly' in what was in essence a derby affair in which they score 2=10 and finish six point winners to reach a championship semi final.......and most of the commentators are so proud of their own club's achievements they keep such info to themselves.....  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
Two teams can play badly and one can just play worse :o

Awful sensitive. It is possible to play badly and win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 08:57:11 PM
Look Cargin can win this no problem.... The only team to beat Cargin is Cargin.... Mentality needs to be right for them... As they have imploded a few times.... Certainly against us over the years and I remember one game at Casement v Lamhs were they lost the plot!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 11, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
Was at the game on Saturday.  Cargin played 10 mins football in first half and blew creggan away then sat back and let creggan get back into it. 2 things then happened, kolo came on and snuffed out creggans only threat which meant creggan were toothless. 2nd-tomas mccann then showed up and ran the creggan Defence ragged the last 20 mins, opening huge holes in that defence. 6 points in championship football is a bad beating.   Make no mistake, cargin won that game at a canter. Last week has pulled the wool over people's eyes-creggan have not improved at all from last year, and cargin are still the best team in the county. MR2 is right tho-the only team to beat cargin is cargin. If cargin play well for any reasonable period against any team in the county they will win. Will still be surprised if the wiley old foxes of St galls don't try to get into their heads. It'll be anyone's championship if they do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 11, 2016, 11:15:05 PM
The thing that creggan done well with cargin was get under there skin and stop them from playing in both games if they just came out and tried to play football with us cargin would run over them so you must take the negative tactics into account which was to stop cargin getting any momentum during both games 6 point win over the parish rivals I will take that any day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 11:26:50 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 11, 2016, 11:15:05 PM
The thing that creggan done well with cargin was get under there skin and stop them from playing in both games if they just came out and tried to play football with us cargin would run over them so you must take the negative tactics into account which was to stop cargin getting any momentum during both games 6 point win over the parish rivals I will take that any day!

St Galls have had to deal with that for years!!! Why would you expect anything else?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2016, 08:53:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2016, 06:43:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2016, 05:05:04 PM
Was at the match last night. Creggan kicked some bad wides in the first half and to me looked the better team. However two bad goals cost them big time.
Michael mc cann ran the game and pulled the strings for cargin. Wasn't overally impressed with cargin but they did what was needed to win.
Was talking to JB after I scanned ur comments DR he promises to take a look at Dunloy in the Intermediate final and most likely make suitable adjustments to try and reach ur standards......... ;) :D :D

;D i wouldnt do that, footballs just an aul game we look at when theres no hurling about.

in all seriousness i didn't think cargin were poor, rather they rode their luck for periods of the game. they got a lucky goal at the start when the defender passed across his goal and the wides creggan hit was shocking.i had a feeling they would regret them at some point and it did.

I thought Creggan started the second half the better team but then lost the run of themselves and their discipline. All of their game plan and play just went out the window.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 12, 2016, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 11, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags

Really?

Sure they started off in Armagh, their underage played in Armagh, their camogie plays in Armagh, they go to school in Armagh, most of them support Armagh, so that looks like Armagh men to me! Also does their parish not also run into down?

And the scumbags bit???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 12, 2016, 07:33:49 PM
Mill town what parish rivals have st galls had in the last 15 years that you can compare to cargin and creggan you might say that cargin have been your rivals but it's not the same cargin and st galls match are usually pure football the last four or five times cargin have played creggan in championship it has been a slug fest of who wants it the most with very little football just look at the number of frees or cards the parish rivalry down here is on a different level to what st gall are used till.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 12, 2016, 07:33:49 PM
Mill town what parish rivals have st galls had in the last 15 years that you can compare to cargin and creggan you might say that cargin have been your rivals but it's not the same cargin and st galls match are usually pure football the last four or five times cargin have played creggan in championship it has been a slug fest of who wants it the most with very little football just look at the number of frees or cards the parish rivalry down here is on a different level to what st gall are used till.

The Johnnies, always has been going back 50 years, the championship games have always been ugly affairs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 12, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
That's a long time ago long before my time but I'm sure even back then beatting the johnnies by six points was a good result people are questioning cargin performance on Saturday night all that I'm saying is beating creggan is a good result they are a good side and madden has them well drilled I dare say if they had of been on the other side of the draw we might have been meeting them in the final ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 12, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
That's a long time ago long before my time but I'm sure even back then beatting the johnnies by six points was a good result people are questioning cargin performance on Saturday night all that I'm saying is beating creggan is a good result they are a good side and madden has them well drilled I dare say if they had of been on the other side of the draw we might have been meeting them in the final ;) ;)

Well we'll be happy to get past the semi's ... get the finals back to Casement  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on September 12, 2016, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 11, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags

Really?

Sure they started off in Armagh, their underage played in Armagh, their camogie plays in Armagh, they go to school in Armagh, most of them support Armagh, so that looks like Armagh men to me! Also does their parish not also run into down?
you should share your views around derryhirk and gawleys gate. I dare say you'll go home wearing your nose as a cap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 13, 2016, 08:19:38 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 11, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 10, 2016, 07:58:04 PM
Aghagallon shouldn't even be in the Antrim league! Armagh scumbags

Really?

Sure they started off in Armagh, their underage played in Armagh, their camogie plays in Armagh, they go to school in Armagh, most of them support Armagh, so that looks like Armagh men to me! Also does their parish not also run into down?

'ya tool' seems quite apt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 13, 2016, 05:50:21 PM
Yas don't know where yis are from. Sure even your one who was on Take Me Out didn't know. Saying she was from Aghalee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on September 13, 2016, 06:12:22 PM
Aghalee is welcome to her!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 15, 2016, 06:09:09 PM
Is that all senior league football completed in Antrim now?  Just championship left?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 16, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 15, 2016, 06:09:09 PM
Is that all senior league football completed in Antrim now?  Just championship left?

I think there are a couple of re fixtures this weekend but all the important stuff is wrapped up in terms of promtion/relegation and league winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 16, 2016, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 15, 2016, 06:09:09 PM
Is that all senior league football completed in Antrim now?  Just championship left?

I thought cut off was last weekend so should only be championship from here in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
it was, hence why we had to play 3 games in a week after playing a semi final against Aldergrove but somehow theres still a game this week after the cut off date that we wernt allow to go by.

Go figure that one out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 16, 2016, 04:21:25 PM
Is it a case of whoever finished top of the league after all games are plays wins it? There are no league playoffs as such to determine overall winner?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 16, 2016, 05:14:31 PM
Cargin were forced to play, what was a 'dead rubber' game at Milltown the day after their championship replay.....despite the fact that Rossa and Creggan who had  championship games on the same day did not proceed with their league games on the Sunday.
Hear the county look to a 'bonus'/sweetner' if they complete league on a proscribed date?
No wonder we are in such a state of affairs when the majority of our clubs, those not still involved in championship anticipate seven months inactive........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 16, 2016, 05:14:45 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
it was, hence why we had to play 3 games in a week after playing a semi final against Aldergrove but somehow theres still a game this week after the cut off date that we wernt allow to go by.

Go figure that one out.

Was not aware that there were further games played. Could leeway have been given after all issues resolved. If there is a cut off I believe it should be adhered to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 16, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
When's the minor final ? I thought it was meant to be tonight in ahoghill ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2016, 07:55:37 PM
It's before the Senior final same as the hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
Sevens winners again. Beat The hosts in the final . Went to penalties too!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2016, 09:34:29 AM
St Galls fly the flag for Antrim Football once again. Sincere congratulations.

Portglenone were originally entered this year but we have just two weeks left of our massive ticket selling fundraiser before the draw is made so we made it a priority that everyone available should be out selling instead. Think we have lifted almost £30k since since Galls put us out of the championship.

We have 72 tables sold for the corporate dinner in the Tullyglass at £600, which will help us reach or even surpass our pitch development target of £250k.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 18, 2016, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
Sevens winners again. Beat The hosts in the final . Went to penalties too!!
Super stuff MR2........Keeping the saffron flag fluttering on the National stage....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 18, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
Sevens winners again. Beat The hosts in the final . Went to penalties too!!

St Galls taking trophies in to the country. Aghagallon taking them out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2016, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 18, 2016, 09:34:29 AM
St Galls fly the flag for Antrim Football once again. Sincere congratulations.

Portglenone were originally entered this year but we have just two weeks left of our massive ticket selling fundraiser before the draw is made so we made it a priority that everyone available should be out selling instead. Think we have lifted almost £30k since since Galls put us out of the championship.

We have 72 tables sold for the corporate dinner in the Tullyglass at £600, which will help us reach or even surpass our pitch development target of £250k.

Seen your new pitch the other week when we were over for the Junior camogie final. Looks good now with the grass growing on it. Flood lights in an all as well will be a massive help.

I take it there will be no changing rooms on that side BS and you have to change in the existing place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 19, 2016, 09:05:16 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 18, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
Sevens winners again. Beat The hosts in the final . Went to penalties too!!

St Galls taking trophies in to the country. Aghagallon taking them out.

Ahaha!   ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 23, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
Good luck to Dunloy tomorrow in the Ulster Club Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:05:41 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 23, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
Good luck to Dunloy tomorrow in the Ulster Club Championship

They will have their work cut out though I give both them and Antrim an outside chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2016, 02:56:00 PM
tough ask for us, Aghagallon are now a Div 1 side and they deserve to be there. hopefully our lads can give it one more push tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 23, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2016, 02:56:00 PM
tough ask for us, Aghagallon are now a Div 1 side and they deserve to be there. hopefully our lads can give it one more push tomorrow!

Does it worry you playing an armagh team? Take the hurls down and send them back to Armagh. Up Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 23, 2016, 04:03:12 PM
Nobody's biting Poc! 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 23, 2016, 04:44:13 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 23, 2016, 04:03:12 PM
Nobody's biting Poc! 😉

I see your an Armagh man. Must be from the Gallon. Previous posts indicate that the armagh men weren't happy and are rattled. They'll be rattled tomorrow. Ashburn tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 23, 2016, 04:54:01 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 23, 2016, 04:44:13 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 23, 2016, 04:03:12 PM
Nobody's biting Poc! 😉

I see your an Armagh man. Must be from the Gallon. Previous posts indicate that the armagh men weren't happy and are rattled. They'll be rattled tomorrow. Ashburn tomorrow night?

He actually is an Armagh man! #sidelineking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2016, 09:23:41 AM
Big win for Moneyglass in the minor B .............more silverware for the parish of Duneane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 24, 2016, 06:33:36 PM
Both teams well worth their wins today. Congratulations to Glenravel and Aghagallon. Hopefully conditions better for tomorrows hurling final.

Big night tonight in the Derryhirk paddyjohn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
Pocs pints and the gaa is buying first round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 24, 2016, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
Pocs pints and the gaa is buying first round

As an Aghagallon man just text me Another trophy coming back over the border to Armagh. Up the orchard men! There should be an inquest. I for one will be pushing for a motion at the convention to get Antrim competitions for Antrim teams.

But congratulations to Aghagallon. You played played the system to your advantage and won. Fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: concernedgaa on September 24, 2016, 07:19:37 PM
not long back from the LD -v- Rossa senior football match.  Horrendous conditions to play in for the teams and LD won in the end but what was as horrendous as the weather was the referee and his lines men. Some very bad decisions for both teams and as much as I hate to be negative when there are so few on the scene. There has to be better than what I seen tonight.  To top off a very bad night for both Moyes and the man in the middle was when our "County" star Conor Murray head butted a Rossa player, even though LD were winning with time up, in full view of both sidelines and the crowd.  And both the aforementioned officials bottled it. Is this what We want our juveniles to Aspire to be.   Definitely not.  LD won the match. Fair play but there is NO place for that in Gaelic games.  Sad to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 24, 2016, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
Pocs pints and the gaa is buying first round

As an Aghagallon man just text me Another trophy coming back over the border to Armagh. Up the orchard men! There should be an inquest. I for one will be pushing for a motion at the convention to get Antrim competitions for Antrim teams.

But congratulations to Aghagallon. You played played the system to your advantage and won. Fair play.

Does this include senior hurling & underage hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 24, 2016, 07:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 24, 2016, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
Pocs pints and the gaa is buying first round

As an Aghagallon man just text me Another trophy coming back over the border to Armagh. Up the orchard men! There should be an inquest. I for one will be pushing for a motion at the convention to get Antrim competitions for Antrim teams.

But congratulations to Aghagallon. You played played the system to your advantage and won. Fair play.

Does this include senior hurling & underage hurling?

You's even had orange bibs on today FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 24, 2016, 08:09:45 PM
Re pints pocs and gaa

Just looked at a map of county Antrim and can clearly see aghagallon is a parish in county Antrim this is the same as sayin cargin men are Derry men ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 24, 2016, 08:21:36 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 24, 2016, 08:09:45 PM
Re pints pocs and gaa

Just looked at a map of county Antrim and can clearly see aghagallon is a parish in county Antrim this is the same as sayin cargin men are Derry men ffs

Sure some of your boys should be playing for Newbridge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 24, 2016, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 24, 2016, 08:09:45 PM
Re pints pocs and gaa

Just looked at a map of county Antrim and can clearly see aghagallon is a parish in county Antrim this is the same as sayin cargin men are Derry men ffs

3 counties in one parish!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 24, 2016, 08:27:07 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 24, 2016, 08:21:36 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 24, 2016, 08:09:45 PM
Re pints pocs and gaa

Just looked at a map of county Antrim and can clearly see aghagallon is a parish in county Antrim this is the same as sayin cargin men are Derry men ffs

Sure some of your boys should be playing for Newbridge

Are half the Ballinderry team not from Tyrone as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 24, 2016, 09:29:28 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 18, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
Sevens winners again. Beat The hosts in the final . Went to penalties too!!

St Galls taking trophies in to the country. Aghagallon taking them out.

LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2016, 08:05:18 PM
A senior football championship semi final involving two South Antrim teams being played in the South West.......not likely?
Well watch this space :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 26, 2016, 08:57:18 AM
A great day for the Parish!   :)

Up a Gs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2016, 08:57:59 AM
was disappointed in our performance on sat. we seemed to want to walk the ball in the net at one point instead of just kicking a score. Impressed with Aghagallons middle pairing and their fielding, we didnt win any ball there at all. Chance was there to win this game but we didnt take what chances we had.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2016, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2016, 08:57:59 AM
was disappointed in our performance on sat. we seemed to want to walk the ball in the net at one point instead of just kicking a score. Impressed with Aghagallons middle pairing and their fielding, we didnt win any ball there at all. Chance was there to win this game but we didnt take what chances we had.

Thought Aghagallon were stronger in the tackle, any time your boys got the ball in a dangerous area youse were being swamped with a few boys rushing shots when you had men in space if you had moved the ball quicker.  Never got enough quality service to young McKinley either but in the end I thought Aghagallon were deserved winners.  Two great Championship run in two years for you but just a bit disappointing at the final hurdle one ach occasion though you did look better than last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
its a case of us playing our best football to get there by beating teams better than us. when we get to the final we seem to have just ran out of steam which is a pity as they have worked seriously hard to get there.Staying in Div 2 was the main aim and that was achieved so they can use this year to build back up again.

What we still have is the unique chance to win a minor football title to add to the hurling title as well. Our camogs won the minor B championship so we have a chance of a treble of minor titles for the first time ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2016, 12:50:03 PM
Tough day for football but we got the win anyway. Fair played to Dunloy but I just thought we were the better side all over the park. I was very worried we got Dunloy in the final as I know they're a championship side but On a dry day I think we could have won handy enough. Great celebrations this past 2 days and now back at it again for the first Ulster game. Apparently a very strong Fermanagh team awaits us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 26, 2016, 09:37:06 PM
2 black cards  and 5 reds at end of Junior Final - interesting finish !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: micko12368 on September 26, 2016, 10:52:44 PM
The referee lost of the run of himself in the junior match. very hard on Glenravel whole match, let Antrim off with a lot of heavy tackles.  2 from each shown straight reds at the end  though not sure what for. Antrim also had 2 players with black cards and another with two yellows for lack of discipline. Poor enough game but best team won.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2016, 11:08:06 PM
Seems our game is up in Ahogill on wed night!! Two Belfast teams ??? Why not the Dub under lights??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2016, 11:38:31 PM
Is there not a club in Belfast with proper regulation floodlights, apart from QUB? Sad state of affairs if true.

We are into the last three days of fundraising for our own. Over £4k sold tonight alone, over 20 cars out all over the province. Hard work but the year flew in since we started. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2016, 07:38:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 26, 2016, 11:38:31 PM
Is there not a club in Belfast with proper regulation floodlights, apart from QUB? Sad state of affairs if true.

We are into the last three days of fundraising for our own. Over £4k sold tonight alone, over 20 cars out all over the province. Hard work but the year flew in since we started.

I doubt there is! Lamhs have lights I think pretty poor though I think...

It's an awful state of affairs bannside ...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 27, 2016, 07:38:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2016, 11:08:06 PM
Seems our game is up in Ahogill on wed night!! Two Belfast teams ??? Why not the Dub under lights??
[/quote The Dub would indeed be the logical choice MR2 but search in vain for logic in our county......the same people have fixed under-16 county finals involving both Cargin and St Johns on Sunday next at Dunsilly ........guess what CCC both those two are involved in a senior semi at Glenavy on the same day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
The Dub isn't really antrim's or an antrim ground though.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2016, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
The Dub isn't really antrim's or an antrim ground though.

Maybe not, but surely it would of been a logical choice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 09:24:16 AM
Assuming it was a choice yes...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2016, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
The Dub isn't really antrim's or an antrim ground though.

Seen/played and refereed plenty of antrim club games there over the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2016, 04:01:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 27, 2016, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
The Dub isn't really antrim's or an antrim ground though.

Maybe not, but surely it would of been a logical choice.

No flags of anthems allowed there AFAIK
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2016, 04:26:45 PM
I thought it was because the showers were cold.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 05:58:42 PM
Belfast v Belfast in Belfast = Less gate money   :o :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
Lol Skull. Aye bring it out to the country and get a decent gate. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 09:49:48 PM
Spot on bann side there will be a decent crowd from the sw interested in goin till that game that wouldn't go up the motorway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2016, 10:53:38 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 09:49:48 PM
Spot on bann side there will be a decent crowd from the sw interested in goin till that game that wouldn't go up the motorway

Not too many happy memories heading up to the big smoke  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 11:12:44 PM
Your right mill town my memories of goin to watch us play in Belfast is goin up on the supporters bus singing and comin home cryin but them days are long gone  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Yeah for now its seems you lot are doing the right thing, and fair play, many a club would crumble under those defeats over the years and now you are competing at a higher level than the rest...

Hopefully we can renew championship final battles by winning on the 5th, but thats not a easy one for us, seen Lamhs a couple times this year and they have some good players, hopefully our lads can win and with a bit of style to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 09:32:03 AM
Shuttle bus to and from the Dunsilly pitch on Sunday 2nd October.

The carpark at Dunsilly will be used for players and officials only and there should be NO parking on the road around Dunsilly.

Buses will run from the old Enkalon car park, it can be accessed from Junction one retail park or from the Randalstown Road entrance to Enkalon industrial estate.


The car park is across from Shrubs and Tubs garden centre.
The buses will be available from 10am in the morning until the games finish.

Unfortunately there will have to be some sort of charge for this.  £1 ahead return for adults and free for U16's.



Only in Antrim...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: doodaa on September 30, 2016, 03:47:22 PM

Hi folks, just wanted to take the opportunity to publicise a fundraiser that our club has initiated to raise money for a great cause and have plenty of craic with at the same time. The donations raised go to AWARE, Pieta House and a fund for our desperately needed 2nd pitch (we have one pitch for 4 codes at all age levels). All the details for taking part can be seen at the link below to the thread on the main discussion section.

A fair few Antrim lads and ladies have already provided us with a few good yarns.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27361.msg1630871#new

Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 30, 2016, 07:57:42 PM
Can  anyone  explain / know  why  st John's are playing in u16 B  final  as  they were beaten in the semi final by St malachys!!   What's that all  about ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2016, 09:50:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 09:32:03 AM
Shuttle bus to and from the Dunsilly pitch on Sunday 2nd October.

The carpark at Dunsilly will be used for players and officials only and there should be NO parking on the road around Dunsilly.

Buses will run from the old Enkalon car park, it can be accessed from Junction one retail park or from the Randalstown Road entrance to Enkalon industrial estate.


The car park is across from Shrubs and Tubs garden centre.
The buses will be available from 10am in the morning until the games finish.



Unfortunately there will have to be some sort of charge for this.  £1 ahead return for adults and free for U16's.



Only in Antrim...

No you just could not make this up.................

Asking Cargin and St John's folk to take in under-16 finals on the same day their respective senior sides are involved in a senior championship semi final is head scratching decision when the juvenile finals could have been scheduled for a Saturday.
Then to acknowledge the venue chosen does not accommodate parking and ask those travelling to park a couple of miles from the ground and take a bus is farcical in the extreme.............
Take a bow those who made such absolutely stupid decisions........................and as PJ says....'Only in Antrim'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 30, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
South antrim  b  final  hasn't been played. St John's definitely beaten bt st Mals. South antrim  semi.    Absolute joke  then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 30, 2016, 11:02:06 PM
StA antrim  semi finals   Gortnamona   1-9   v   2-16   Clan ngael      Enright Pk 6.30pm   
F u16 football 2   20 Sep 2016   St Malachys   4-13   v   3-8   St Johns      Cherryvale 6.30pm   
F u16 football 2   31 Oct 2016   Clan ngael      v   st malachys   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 01, 2016, 12:01:11 AM
Pay attention delgany

Fixtures & Results 2016 - O U16 fc 2

U16 fc 2   28 Aug 2016   St Johns   2-9   v   2-4   St Malachys   final St Pauls 11am   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 01, 2016, 09:14:34 AM
Paying in or refusing to do so is most certanly not the issue MR2......but no doubt the coin colectors will be manning the gate in anticipation.
But rather the huge inconvenience imposed on those supporters with children in tow, and don't forget the participants....they are kids.....and do the organisers expect those at the games of Cargin or Johnnies origin travel onwards to Glenavy after the bus journey back to junction one?
Why were the 16 games not fixed for Saturday, and why insist on a venue which is obviously not suitable.
Having visited Dunsilly it is more than obvious that the venue, in its present state is not ready to host finals, juvenile or otherwise and the idea of busing supporters in is laughable in the extreme .......but again 'Only in Antrim'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 01, 2016, 09:53:16 AM
It is a joke no matter what way you look at it. What is the reason for not just having a double header??

On a more positive note, I have been very impressed with the coverage that the club finals have got on the county Twitter, Facebook etc The PRO is doing good work. Saying that we didn't get a trophy presented to us for winning the division 2 league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 01, 2016, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2016, 09:53:16 AM
It is a joke no matter what way you look at it. What is the reason for not just having a double header??

On a more positive note, I have been very impressed with the coverage that the club finals have got on the county Twitter, Facebook etc The PRO is doing good work. Saying that we didn't get a trophy presented to us for winning the division 2 league.

Wouldn't have happened in armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2016, 10:22:35 PM
this

StA antrim  semi finals   Gortnamona   1-9   v   2-16   Clan ngael      Enright Pk 6.30pm   
F u16 football 2   20 Sep 2016   St Malachys   4-13   v   3-8   St Johns      Cherryvale 6.30pm   
F u16 football 2   31 Oct 2016   Clan ngael      v   st malachys   

relates to the league semi final. in the U16 B championship St Johns reversed the result in the semi final v St Malachys. Pretty straightforward really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:28:02 PM
Do the Johnnies have a chance today?  Been a while since they have been at the top table!! They won't lack confidence, they never have!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 02, 2016, 06:03:27 PM
The Johnnies did their best MR2, but in truth it was over after 15 minutes........a couple of late goals only arrived to suggest that this was a contest....but hey a sternre test awaits.......had a little bet at 1/1 -3 points.  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 02, 2016, 06:03:27 PM
The Johnnies did their best MR2, but in truth it was over after 15 minutes........a couple of late goals only arrived to suggest that this was a contest....but hey a sternre test awaits.......had a little bet at 1/1 -3 points.  :)

Well another final to prepare for CB, consistency has been Cargins thing!! Hopefully we can get there on Wednesday night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 02, 2016, 08:06:34 PM
Didn't get to the game as I went to Dungannon to see John Mc Keever led Coalisland beat Damien Cassidy Clonoe. No exaggeration there were 8 or 9 thousand people there after drawing last week. But today Coalisland were just too strong and go into the Tyrone final.  Good achievement for John who is getting a reputation for being one of the best young managers in the game. Still in his mid thirties and on a fast upward management curve.

I was keeping up to date with the Antrim semi but saw Cargin were ten up so I left it at that. Was talking to someone who was at it who said Cargin weren't that impressive in the second third and fourth quarters where St John's got the better of them once they finally settled into the match.

Six points was a good win though and I'm sure most Cargin fans would be happy enough tonight that the back to back is on the cards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 02, 2016, 08:16:15 PM
Will be there MR2 and look forward to a game.
The timing of the game and a pitch which more than likely be in pristine order, but dew laden, and quite slippery as result may well bring the sides closer together I cannot for see upset.
Look forward to a Gall's Cargin decider ;)
But if Bannsider's informant was not impressed then perhaps JB won't bother bringing his charges to that final...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 02, 2016, 08:40:05 PM
Explain why JB might not bring his troops to the final? Not getting your logic CB. The person I talked to said Cargin were awesome in the opening quarter but after that middling enough by their own standards and St John's matched them for the remaining three quarters of the game.

Is that a fair comment or not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:41:59 PM
Cross beat tonight I heard, will Cargin meet the Armagh winners??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 02, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
Unfair in the extreme Bannside and without factual basis......Cargin scored 1-9 in the opening thirty minutes and indeed if the Johnnies keeper hadn't been excellent it could have been more........now in the second half they added a further 12 points and led 2-21 to 0-10 with time up ..... the St John's men (Bam) had added five to match us ???.........Job done and a few players withdrawn Cargin went into neutral........St Johns added 2-1 in injury time...........those are the facts......ask yer man what is he talking about  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 02, 2016, 09:29:04 PM
Can't argue with 2-21 to 0-10 with a few minutes left. Fair enough that sounds comprehensive to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 02, 2016, 09:47:08 PM
Antrim champions  play Coalisland or killyclogher
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.

Personal now!! I put a smiley face on. No humour with you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.

Personal now!! I put a smiley face on. No humour with you?

Plenty of humour here, I've laughed while watching your baldy wee coupon running about trying to referee a game. 😘😘
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.

Personal now!! I put a smiley face on. No humour with you?

Plenty of humour here, I've laughed while watching your baldy wee coupon running about trying to referee a game. 😘😘

Again being personal, that your lot? Have you read your posts??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.

Personal now!! I put a smiley face on. No humour with you?

Plenty of humour here, I've laughed while watching your baldy wee coupon running about trying to referee a game. 😘😘

Again being personal, that your lot? Have you read your posts??

Every one of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.

Personal now!! I put a smiley face on. No humour with you?

Plenty of humour here, I've laughed while watching your baldy wee coupon running about trying to referee a game. 😘😘

Again being personal, that your lot? Have you read your posts??

On a seperate note MR2, maybe you can help, out of that St Galls team that won th AI club, how many still coach or are active within the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 10:51:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2016, 08:16:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 11:07:15 PM
So how are St Johns in it?

The whole set up on Sunday is shambolic. Have they made provisions for families that have small children that will have a pram on the Venga bus? I wouldn't be happy putting my 6month old on a bus.
Surely a double header with the SFC semi would of been the solution?

Our fixture makers have gotten in spot on most of the year but not this time.

Under 16 final wouldn't generate more than 200 people ffs!! If you're lucky! So playing it at Dunsilly is not a biggy in my view

Maybe not but still asking people to pay into it and then into a SFC semi final? Laughable.

So people shouldn't pay in??

Did I say that?

Yep!

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly MR2. I'll PM you all my future posts so you can proof read them for me.

No need, just re read them yourself before posting ;)


You are an arrogant pr1ck.

Personal now!! I put a smiley face on. No humour with you?

Plenty of humour here, I've laughed while watching your baldy wee coupon running about trying to referee a game. 😘😘

Again being personal, that your lot? Have you read your posts??

On a seperate note MR2, maybe you can help, out of that St Galls team that won th AI club, how many still coach or are active within the club?

A fair amount to be honest, from both teams that reached Croke we've seen a great input from them, invaluable... I still think we need to go back to that blueprint again which created that those teams...

Hopefully that will come, huge collective effort required though ..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 02, 2016, 11:03:54 PM
Let's hope so MR for Antrim Footballs sake. Somehow we need to create/produce/develop 9/10 footballers like Sean Kelly, Ciaran Mc Gourty, Kevin Niblock et al, and clubs with the tradition of St Galls have a big role to play in this if Antrim are ever going to fulfil its potential.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2016, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 02, 2016, 11:03:54 PM
Let's hope so MR for Antrim Footballs sake. Somehow we need to create/produce/develop 9/10 footballers like Sean Kelly, Ciaran Mc Gourty, Kevin Niblock et al, and clubs with the tradition of St Galls have a big role to play in this if Antrim are ever going to fulfil its potential.

We've great numbers and always have since that period. A lot of past good players have sons that are currently in our juvenile teams... not recipe for success but good platform
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 03, 2016, 09:13:57 AM
Glenavy was in fantastic shape yesterday.  Contender for final.  Magill should of walked after 2 minutes.  Cargin impressive for periods.  St Johns i expected more from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2016, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: otbar on October 03, 2016, 09:13:57 AM
Glenavy was in fantastic shape yesterday.  Contender for final.  Magill should of walked after 2 minutes.  Cargin impressive for periods.  St Johns i expected more from.

What did Magill do?

Final will be in Ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 03, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
By 'walked' I'm guessing you mean a 'black card'?  tbh I'm not sure what is a black card and what isn't any more. Magill stepped into the Johnnies man with his shoulder as the Johnnies man was handpassing the ball for a 'softener' - black or yellow - never a red and I don't think Cargin could have complained if either was shown.  Big McKernan was then clotheslined on the edge of the square in a questionable tackle minutes later that was a red and nothing given so I am still no further forward.

As to the match itself, this neither felt like a championship match nor looked like it. Cargins hard running at start of both halves opened considerable gaps in the Johnnies defence.  Apart from Bam, the Johnnies struggled at all sectors and only a showing in the last 5 mins of each half turned this from being an embarrassment to Antrim football. Hard to gauge where Cargin are at.

Glenavy was in fantastic shape but the neutrals (aka gate paying members from other clubs) didn't seem to be in huge attendance being put off by the venue.  That's not Glenavys fault of course, but something the moneymen will consider.

The Dunsilly setup beggars belief.  If its not fit to accommodate nearby parking for an Antrim U16 then where does that leave it for larger finals?? Owenbeg it is not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
Can help you out on ur question as to where 'Cargin are at' Spike..well they anticipate another senior championship appearance as the reigning champs, having already secured another league title and in the process outscoring all therein by a huge margin......as to strength and depth both the reserve league and championship titles already secured and are on the threshold of a possible unheralded four timer...... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 03, 2016, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
Can help you out on ur question as to where 'Cargin are at' Spike..well they anticipate another senior championship appearance as the reigning champs, having already secured another league title and in the process outscoring all therein by a huge margin......as to strength and depth both the reserve league and championship titles already secured and are on the threshold of a possible unheralded four timer...... :)

All hail the Mighty Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 03, 2016, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 03, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
Glenavy was in fantastic shape but the neutrals (aka gate paying members from other clubs) didn't seem to be in huge attendance being put off by the venue.  That's not Glenavys fault of course, but something the moneymen will consider.

The Dunsilly setup beggars belief.  If its not fit to accommodate nearby parking for an Antrim U16 then where does that leave it for larger finals?? Owenbeg it is not.

When you consider how critical gate money is for revenue generation within the county, location is key. Sad reality that Belfast Gaels are not as abundant as we would all like to see. If you want better gate takings, you have to go where the interest is greatest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2016, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
Can help you out on ur question as to where 'Cargin are at' Spike..well they anticipate another senior championship appearance as the reigning champs, having already secured another league title and in the process outscoring all therein by a huge margin......as to strength and depth both the reserve league and championship titles already secured and are on the threshold of a possible unheralded four timer...... :)

The answer is after the county final CB and nothing else that has gone on before this year matters  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2016, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 03, 2016, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
Can help you out on ur question as to where 'Cargin are at' Spike..well they anticipate another senior championship appearance as the reigning champs, having already secured another league title and in the process outscoring all therein by a huge margin......as to strength and depth both the reserve league and championship titles already secured and are on the threshold of a possible unheralded four timer...... :)

All hail the Mighty Cargin

Ahh now Gizzy, no sarcasm here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 06:45:13 PM
As a wise man once said, 'Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit' Gizzy's comments are perhaps befitting or perhaps he has stayed too long in his social club. ;)




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 03, 2016, 06:55:41 PM
Cargin are best placed to secure that highly commendable 4 timer of senior and reserve league and championship. That is a good indicator of where Cargin are at, to be fair. With the final most likely going to be Ahoghill they have a great opportunity for back to back titles. Being honest, that's a great position for them to be in.

Shaping up like an exciting finish to the year as both Galls and LD haven't given up yet and Cargin will need a consistent hour of top quality to get the job done. Still all to play for we will get an indication of the wellbeing of the city men on Wed night.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2016, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 03, 2016, 06:55:41 PM
Cargin are best placed to secure that highly commendable 4 timer of senior and reserve league and championship. That is a good indicator of where Cargin are at, to be fair. With the final most likely going to be Ahoghill they have a great opportunity for back to back titles. Being honest, that's a great position for them to be in.

Shaping up like an exciting finish to the year as both Galls and LD haven't given up yet and Cargin will need a consistent hour of top quality to get the job done. Still all to play for we will get an indication of the wellbeing of the city men on Wed night.

Hoping for an open game, with good honest football....... but i cant see it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 04, 2016, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 06:45:13 PM
As a wise man once said, 'Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit' Gizzy's comments are perhaps befitting or perhaps he has stayed too long in his social club. ;)

Quote continues    ........but the highest form of intelligence  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2016, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 04, 2016, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2016, 06:45:13 PM
As a wise man once said, 'Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit' Gizzy's comments are perhaps befitting or perhaps he has stayed too long in his social club. ;)

Quote continues    ........but the highest form of intelligence  ;)
Indeed Mr Wilde did conclude with this, but do u not think he was poking some fun at himself............  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2016, 03:48:11 PM
It will be a Cargin V St Galls final with Cargin winning by 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 05, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2016, 03:48:11 PM
It will be a Cargin V St Galls final with Cargin winning by 3.

any chance of getting the lotto numbers while youre there paddy? cheers  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 05, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2016, 03:48:11 PM
It will be a Cargin V St Galls final with Cargin winning by 3.

any chance of getting the lotto numbers while youre there paddy? cheers  ;D

7, 15 , 25, 31, 40, 49

See you at the airport..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 05, 2016, 02:27:40 PM
Why is that game tonight in Ahoghill???  Couldnt they have fixed it for somewhere round Belfast?  Im right in thinking Laem Dearg is just outside Lisburn?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 05, 2016, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 05, 2016, 02:27:40 PM
Why is that game tonight in Ahoghill???  Couldnt they have fixed it for somewhere round Belfast?  Im right in thinking Laem Dearg is just outside Lisburn?

My guess ... makes sense

(http://i1.wp.com/chicago.source1cu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/walter-white-money.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 05, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
Think Ahoghill is the only ground available that has floodlights. Lamh Dhearg are playing Ulster JHC at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2016, 03:34:07 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 05, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
Think Ahoghill is the only ground available that has floodlights. Lamh Dhearg are playing Ulster JHC at the weekend.

So why not have played it beforew the Cargin game? were Lamhs playing hurling last weekend also?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 05, 2016, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 05, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
Think Ahoghill is the only ground available that has floodlights. Lamh Dhearg are playing Ulster JHC at the weekend.
Cargin and Ballymena have floodlights as well.......but the organisation at Ahoghill is first rate, and money talks in gate receipts...... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2016, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2016, 03:34:07 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 05, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
Think Ahoghill is the only ground available that has floodlights. Lamh Dhearg are playing Ulster JHC at the weekend.

So why not have played it beforew the Cargin game? were Lamhs playing hurling last weekend also?

I think they played their first round game in Ulster on Sunday past.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 05, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
Will many Belfast Gaels be bothered travelling out to the countryside for a senior semi final?

Tonight's teams playing for a final place to stop Cargin making it a South West clean sweep of silverware this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on October 05, 2016, 08:26:26 PM
24 gone, St Galls 1.0  Lamh Dhearg 0.1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2016, 08:26:49 PM
St Galls 1-0 Lamh Dhearg 0-1 after 25mins play.

Atrocious isn't the word. Give the championship to Cargin now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on October 05, 2016, 08:35:26 PM
Half time St Galls 1.2, Lamh Dhearg 0.1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2016, 09:06:17 PM
1-3 to 0-6

Close game.

1-0 after 20 minutes. Doesn't sound like a classic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on October 05, 2016, 09:07:59 PM
Galls 1.3 LAmh Dhearg 0.7, 18 gone second half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2016, 09:11:08 PM
Is it a bad game??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2016, 09:24:28 PM
St galls won by two
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2016, 09:56:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2016, 09:11:08 PM
Is it a bad game??

Second half ok. CJ kicked 4 frees.

Lamh Dhearg kicking themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 05, 2016, 10:23:16 PM
Was at Ahoghill and it was an awful game, but such has absolutely no bearing on the final to come....Gall's are certainly not the force of old but they stood tall when the Hannahstown men went ahead with ten minutes to go and dominating the breaking ball was the key to success.
True I am happy with the 9/4 I have but would certainly not be about to count my winnings............. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2016, 10:29:46 PM
Wasn't great, Lamhs played all but one behind the ball for a lots of periods. Very hard to break down!! Anyways two point win will do!  Cargin to beat the final hoodoo over us?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 05, 2016, 11:30:46 PM
Poor first half with an unusually high amount of wides from St Galls. Lamh Dhearg were four down at HT but we're level within four minutes of the restart.  Only then did you see anything resembling the St Galls we know, quick and decisive movements and one touch football that created enough scoring chances for them to squeeze over the line against a gallant Hannahstown. Cargin supporters will be very confident after that but St Galls second half performance was quite impressive with regard to the way they clawed in front and used all their experience to stay there.

If Cargin can produce their A game for a full hour it should be enough.

C
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 12:41:01 AM
Now I've defrosted a wee bit, I'm looking forward to what should be a cracking final. St Galls were very good in the second with CJ making the difference. Sean Kelly is still the class act that he was has been. Chris Kerr's kick outs were very good and found his own men more times that not when forced to go long. I'm not sure about the final now. My previous prediction could be under reconsideration!

Cargin will fancy making it 2 in a row but St Galls won't be an easy task.


MR2, Kevin McGourty not play anything at all now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2016, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 12:41:01 AM
Now I've defrosted a wee bit, I'm looking forward to what should be a cracking final. St Galls were very good in the second with CJ making the difference. Sean Kelly is still the class act that he was had been. Chris Kerr's kick outs were very good and found his own men more times that not when forced to go long. I'm not sure about the final now. My previous prediction could be under reconsideration!

Cargin will fancy making it 2 in a row but St Galls won't be an easy task.


MR2, Kevin McGourty not play anything at all now?

No not at all ...

We'll play against a different style when we play Cargin in the final so it may suit us .. an open game, I'd say on reflection we can improve on that performance. We'd need to reduce the amount of frees we gave away and stop talking back to the referee who rightly moved the ball forward into scoreable positions...

Early ball is vital with Lamhs behind the ball so much it was hard to get ball through until we started to break their lines. Frees were won and we pushed on!! Lamhs were very disciplined and unlucky, think they have more in them should they have the freedom to play football and not that defensive crap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 09:21:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2016, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 12:41:01 AM
Now I've defrosted a wee bit, I'm looking forward to what should be a cracking final. St Galls were very good in the second with CJ making the difference. Sean Kelly is still the class act that he was had been. Chris Kerr's kick outs were very good and found his own men more times that not when forced to go long. I'm not sure about the final now. My previous prediction could be under reconsideration!

Cargin will fancy making it 2 in a row but St Galls won't be an easy task.


MR2, Kevin McGourty not play anything at all now?

No not at all ...

We'll play against a different style when we play Cargin in the final so it may suit us .. an open game, I'd say on reflection we can improve on that performance. We'd need to reduce the amount of frees we gave away and stop talking back to the referee who rightly moved the ball forward into scoreable positions...

Early ball is vital with Lamhs behind the ball so much it was hard to get ball through until we started to break their lines. Frees were won and we pushed on!! Lamhs were very disciplined and unlucky, think they have more in them should they have the freedom to play football and not that defensive crap

Agree with the last sentence here. The puke stuff served up by them in the first half didn't do them justice at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 03:29:19 PM
Although Galls are but a shadow of their former selves and they did struggle to get the better of an understrength L D they are certainly not lacking in guile.

We may well start as favourites but really need to be on top of ur game.

Where is the final to be played?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 03:29:19 PM
Although Galls are but a shadow of their former selves and they did struggle to get the better of an understrength L D they are certainly not lacking in guile.

We may well start as favourites but really need to be on top of ur game.

Where is the final to be played?

Surely Ahoghill. They'd hardly take it to Corrigan would they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 07:19:07 PM
Corrigan is the place....Sun 16th at 3....poor viewing and loss ov revenue.....but a plus for Cargin who havent lost there for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 07:19:07 PM
Corrigan is the place....Sun 16th at 3....poor viewing and loss ov revenue.....but a plus for Cargin who havent lost there for years.


Awful choice. Think I'll go to the Derry final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 07:32:32 PM
Gate will be small....in comparison viewing restricted but strings are obviously being pulled ;)



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 07:32:32 PM
Gate will be small....in comparison viewing restricted but strings are obviously being pulled ;)

Well that's a surprise .. be hardly any country ones coming down!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2016, 09:47:26 PM
Corrigan? Really?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2016, 09:47:26 PM
Corrigan? Really?

County will do anything to ensure it's not a clean sweep by the south west. 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2016, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2016, 09:47:26 PM
Corrigan? Really?

You'll hardly be watching it if it had been in Glenariffe you'd not be there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2016, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2016, 09:47:26 PM
Corrigan? Really?

County will do anything to ensure it's not a clean sweep by the south west. 😜

Seismic shift with the South west winning everything! Wow!! Watch out Croker  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 06, 2016, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 07:19:07 PM
Corrigan is the place....Sun 16th at 3....poor viewing and loss ov revenue.....but a plus for Cargin who havent lost there for years.

Poor game in glenavy
Poor game in ahoghill
Maybe and probably poor game in corrigan
Best ground there is, sure the county team plays there
From what I saw in both, Cargin by a few
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2016, 11:04:14 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 06, 2016, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2016, 07:19:07 PM
Corrigan is the place....Sun 16th at 3....poor viewing and loss ov revenue.....but a plus for Cargin who havent lost there for years.

Poor game in glenavy
Poor game in ahoghill
Maybe and probably poor game in corrigan
Best ground there is, sure the county team plays there
From what I saw in both, Cargin by a few

Yeah Cargin huge favourites based on our previous game last year and our two games in Championship... I'm hoping Cargin have one of those games where things don't work for them and we click...

Us by two
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 06, 2016, 11:14:56 PM
Both teams 5/6 with paddy power. A draw not out of the question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on October 07, 2016, 11:26:21 AM
St galls experience told in the end. Must say im at odds with the notion of 14 men behind the ball win the Lamhs hit 10 wides in the first half. Lamhs need to make sure they dont waste the opportunity to win one. But the last 2 years they have been handcuffed. Last year they lost Michael Hynes to study, Ryan Stranney, Declan Stranney and Terry Mccrudden to operations whilst Paddy Cunningham and Ryan Murray played whilst injured as did Declan Lynch who got a double hip operation shortly after. On wednesday they were missing Paddy Cunningham whilst Declan Stranney is suffering from complications to his surgery and Michael Hynes was unavailable as was Marc Jordan. Ryan Murray despite his efforts was also injured.It was Ryan Stranneys first game in 18 months So would judge them better when at full tilt as its hard to gauge where they are at. As for the final cargin need to make sure they get a good start and not let galls play the game on their terms. Also it must be noted that it was 2 of the unsong lads who turned the game. Brendan Bradley won three or four frees from running at lamhs whereas Mark Kelly won 4 break balls from kickouts at crucial times. One last note you could hear cargin men moaning that the ref gave some soft calls to st galls. The bigger teams in general do get those calls but he also gave 3 penalties against the lamhs in last years final. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 07, 2016, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: reddog on October 07, 2016, 11:26:21 AM
St galls experience told in the end. Must say im at odds with the notion of 14 men behind the ball win the Lamhs hit 10 wides in the first half. Lamhs need to make sure they dont waste the opportunity to win one. But the last 2 years they have been handcuffed. Last year they lost Michael Hynes to study, Ryan Stranney, Declan Stranney and Terry Mccrudden to operations whilst Paddy Cunningham and Ryan Murray played whilst injured as did Declan Lynch who got a double hip operation shortly after. On wednesday they were missing Paddy Cunningham whilst Declan Stranney is suffering from complications to his surgery and Michael Hynes was unavailable as was Marc Jordan. Ryan Murray despite his efforts was also injured.It was Ryan Stranneys first game in 18 months So would judge them better when at full tilt as its hard to gauge where they are at. As for the final cargin need to make sure they get a good start and not let galls play the game on their terms. Also it must be noted that it was 2 of the unsong lads who turned the game. Brendan Bradley won three or four frees from running at lamhs whereas Mark Kelly won 4 break balls from kickouts at crucial times. One last note you could hear cargin men moaning that the ref gave some soft calls to st galls. The bigger teams in general do get those calls but he also gave 3 penalties against the lamhs in last years final. Thoughts?

On the refereeing and the Cargin men moaning, may it have been due to the fact they would have rather played Lamh Dhearg in the final? Id disagree with the sentiments of the big teams getting the big calls, St Galls were screaming for a penalty in the first half that the referee waved away, if it was a case of big tems getting the calls surely he'd have given it. As for last year and giving three penalties if you give 2 penalties and another foul occurs in the square should you not give another penalty because you have already given two before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Cargin do look forward to meeting Galls in the final, rather than the Hannahstown.
They do have a monkey on their back and look to getting rid of the same.
St Galls are a fine team but they are most certainly on the wane and a few within the ranks look out of sorts in the semi struggling to get past a side short on personnel.....and indeed needing a couple of debateable calls to get over the line.
Of course our boys may well fall flat on their faces, but Galls really depend on this rather than their supremacy if they are to prevail
Cargin with the JB factor to gain the day on a pitch they fancy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 02:15:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Cargin do look forward to meeting Galls in the final, rather than the Hannahstown.
They do have a monkey on their back and look to getting rid of the same.
St Galls are a fine team but they are most certainly on the wane and a few within the ranks look out of sorts in the semi struggling to get past a side short on personnel.....and indeed needing a couple of debateable calls to get over the line.
Of course our boys may well fall flat on their faces, but Galls really depend on this rather than their supremacy if they are to prevail
Cargin with the JB factor to gain the day on a pitch they fancy.
E
Missing players?? All teams miss players that will make a difference ffs!! If we'd a fully fit operational team I'd say we'd beat Cargin, we don't have Aidso or cj  or Terry O'Neill !! Cargin have a hoodoo to get over and at 5/6 that is a super bet, for who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2016, 09:54:56 AM
As u say MR2...Aidso and T O Neill would make addition but being outa the country (AG) ang (long term injury) T O N sure gand at around 34 apiece......well?
Think I saw CJ kick a few frees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2016, 10:06:46 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 08, 2016, 09:54:56 AM
As u say MR2...Aidso and T O Neill would make addition but being outa the country (AG) ang (long term injury) T O N sure gand at around 34 apiece......well?
Think I saw CJ kick a few frees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2016, 11:42:01 AM
Aidan Gallagher a very fit 31or 32 (max) year old. A year younger than Michael Magill. Gallagher showed plenty against Casements in the first round. I was expecting him to play some part against LD. Must be unable to commit to training etc in term time, but far from finished as far as ability goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 08, 2016, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 08, 2016, 11:42:01 AM
Aidan Gallagher a very fit 31or 32 (max) year old. A year younger than Michael Magill. Gallagher showed plenty against Casements in the first round. I was expecting him to play some part against LD. Must be unable to commit to training etc in term time, but far from finished as far as ability goes.

I would have had him older than 31/32
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2016, 01:35:10 PM
He will be 33 sometime during 2017. Born in 1984. Was a final year county minor with Micko Herron, Sean Mc Veigh, Paul Doherty etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on October 08, 2016, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 02:15:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Cargin do look forward to meeting Galls in the final, rather than the Hannahstown.
They do have a monkey on their back and look to getting rid of the same.
St Galls are a fine team but they are most certainly on the wane and a few within the ranks look out of sorts in the semi struggling to get past a side short on personnel.....and indeed needing a couple of debateable calls to get over the line.
Of course our boys may well fall flat on their faces, but Galls really depend on this rather than their supremacy if they are to prevail
Cargin with the JB factor to gain the day on a pitch they fancy.
E
Missing players?? All teams miss players that will make a difference ffs!! If we'd a fully fit operational team I'd say we'd beat Cargin, we don't have Aidso or cj  or Terry O'Neill !! Cargin have a hoodoo to get over and at 5/6 that is a super bet, for who?

As i say st galls can say they are missing terry and aidso who are two class acts. But a team like that should be able to cope with that. I would imagine losing paddy cunningham, mark jordan, declan stranney and michael hynes would surely effect the lamhs more? I cant call final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 05:29:20 PM
Quote from: reddog on October 08, 2016, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 02:15:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Cargin do look forward to meeting Galls in the final, rather than the Hannahstown.
They do have a monkey on their back and look to getting rid of the same.
St Galls are a fine team but they are most certainly on the wane and a few within the ranks look out of sorts in the semi struggling to get past a side short on personnel.....and indeed needing a couple of debateable calls to get over the line.
Of course our boys may well fall flat on their faces, but Galls really depend on this rather than their supremacy if they are to prevail
Cargin with the JB factor to gain the day on a pitch they fancy.
E
Missing players?? All teams miss players that will make a difference ffs!! If we'd a fully fit operational team I'd say we'd beat Cargin, we don't have Aidso or cj  or Terry O'Neill !! Cargin have a hoodoo to get over and at 5/6 that is a super bet, for who?

As i say st galls can say they are missing terry and aidso who are two class acts. But a team like that should be able to cope with that. I would imagine losing paddy cunningham, mark jordan, declan stranney and michael hynes would surely effect the lamhs more? I cant call final

Probably, would you not be of an opinion had Lamhs went at St Galls from the start they would have won?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 08, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 05:29:20 PM
Quote from: reddog on October 08, 2016, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 02:15:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Cargin do look forward to meeting Galls in the final, rather than the Hannahstown.
They do have a monkey on their back and look to getting rid of the same.
St Galls are a fine team but they are most certainly on the wane and a few within the ranks look out of sorts in the semi struggling to get past a side short on personnel.....and indeed needing a couple of debateable calls to get over the line.
Of course our boys may well fall flat on their faces, but Galls really depend on this rather than their supremacy if they are to prevail
Cargin with the JB factor to gain the day on a pitch they fancy.
E
Missing players?? All teams miss players that will make a difference ffs!! If we'd a fully fit operational team I'd say we'd beat Cargin, we don't have Aidso or cj  or Terry O'Neill !! Cargin have a hoodoo to get over and at 5/6 that is a super bet, for who?

As i say st galls can say they are missing terry and aidso who are two class acts. But a team like that should be able to cope with that. I would imagine losing paddy cunningham, mark jordan, declan stranney and michael hynes would surely effect the lamhs more? I cant call final

Probably, would you not be of an opinion had Lamhs went at St Galls from the start they would have won?

I don't often agree with you MR2 but you are spot on. St Galls struggled with Nugent and Murray in the 1st half when Lamh Dhearg kicked the ball into them. They should of taken the shackles off and went for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Seems some in high places are fuming at the venue decided on for the senior final......resignation ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2016, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Seems some in high places are fuming at the venue decided on for the senior final......resignation ???

Hardly.. saffron vision n all that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2016, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Seems some in high places are fuming at the venue decided on for the senior final......resignation ???

Jesus lads do you want the game in your own backyard every year? Sure won't matter to Cargin ffs they've a great record in Corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Who has resigned?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2016, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Seems some in high places are fuming at the venue decided on for the senior final......resignation ???

Jesus lads do you want the game in your own backyard every year? Sure won't matter to Cargin ffs they've a great record in Corrigan
And how many times have Gall's won an Antrim title anywhere other than a mile away from Milltown, and in a pitch which served as their home ground for quite a time MR2....think maybe once :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2016, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Seems some in high places are fuming at the venue decided on for the senior final......resignation ???

Jesus lads do you want the game in your own backyard every year? Sure won't matter to Cargin ffs they've a great record in Corrigan
And how many times have Gall's won an Antrim title anywhere other than a mile away from Milltown, and in a pitch which served as their home ground for quite a time MR2....think maybe once :)

We beat you lot twice recently and I remember us beating your lot in Rasharkin!! County finals have been in general played at county grounds! We have no control over that, we just happen to live nearby.

Was only our home ground cause we kept winning, that was you fault surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 06:08:39 PM
Listen just saying there is a row bout final at Corrigan on a monetary issue cause it is quite certain that the venue will not attract any/many neutrals.
Hearing one individual changed final venue from original committee choice as Glenavy.
Matters not to Cargin as to where and our support base will positively outnumber those in blue and white, and as u mentioned previously our lads will need to fall flat on their faces if Galls are to gain the day.
They were a superb side but those days are just as memory ....they may well surprise on Sunday, but in my humble opinion those glory days are past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2016, 06:14:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 06:08:39 PM
Listen just saying there is a row bout final at Corrigan on a monetary issue cause it is quite certain that the venue will not attract any/many neutrals.
Hearing one individual changed final venue from original committee choice as Glenavy.
Matters not to Cargin as to where and our support base will positively outnumber those in blue and white, and as u mentioned previously our lads will need to fall flat on their faces if Galls are to gain the day.
They were a superb side but those days are just as memory ....they may well surprise on Sunday, but in my humble opinion those glory days are past.

They are and Cargin are worthy champions. Hopefully they'll represent Antrim well in the Ulster championship.. and not settle getting one over a team well past it's best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
Certainly have been known to be wrong MR2......only speaking as I have seen over the past couple of years....u have not replaced Kevin Mc Gourty and still retain several who were not making the team a few years back are now starting despite all at 30+.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2016, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
Certainly have been known to be wrong MR2......only speaking as I have seen over the past couple of years....u have not replaced Kevin Mc Gourty and still retain several who were not making the team a few years back are now starting despite all at 30+.

Cargin have a few at 30+ surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
Certainly have been known to be wrong MR2......only speaking as I have seen over the past couple of years....u have not replaced Kevin Mc Gourty and still retain several who were not making the team a few years back are now starting despite all at 30+.
Have indeed but not in such category.......recalled after absence from start list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 11, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Who has resigned?

The big lad, doesn't have the saffron vision  ;)
It will not be long till he's back.
Is it not the chairmans perogative, so what's the issue ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2016, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 11, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Who has resigned?

The big lad
It will not be long till he's back.
Is it not the chairmans perogative, so what's the issue ?

I would have thought so.. same as picking the referee for finals, committte propose someone and the chairman says yea or nay, I could be corrected.   

Not much talk about the game  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
Cargin by 3 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 08:23:20 PM
Think the problem may well be the suitability of Corrigan as great sod but not spectator friendly and who can gurantee the safety of the Culchie's cars?
Have 9/4 Cargin and considering laying off a few bob to ensure profit......can get 1/1 Galls MR2....what u think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2016, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 08:23:20 PM
Think the problem may well be the suitability of Corrigan as great sod but not spectator friendly and who can gurantee the safety of the Culchie's cars?
Have 9/4 Cargin and considering laying off a few bob to ensure profit......can get 1/1 Galls MR2....what u think?

Stick with your gut!! I would even say take the handicap !!

Now that we are in the final though I'm going for a one point win, think there might be an early black card or sending off which will determine the outcome !! Naomh Gall by one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 08:46:23 PM
Think perhaps it is a case of 'heart ruling head' MR2 my friend.....think will be similar to 2015.....full squad and even TS is in contention despite recent surgery.
Cargin by 4/5...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 08:46:23 PM
Think perhaps it is a case of 'heart ruling head' MR2 my friend.....think will be similar to 2015.....full squad and even TS is in contention despite recent surgery.
Cargin by 4/5...

Well the beauty of this game is we certainly don't fear Cargin, it's a final, it's away from the South west, we've regrouped, we haven't played that well and there is at least one good game in us, hopefully it will be at Corrigan..

For us I'm hoping we can have an open game and not a defensive one, I can't see Cargin doing what Lamhs did which will hopefully open the game up and allow us to play quicker ball into our forwards!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 09:42:41 PM
Agree to differ MR2...but having played catch up to what was a superb team in St Gall's the feeling in the Cargin camp is we have edged ahead and intend to move on...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2016, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 09:42:41 PM
Agree to differ MR2...but having played catch up to what was a superb team in St Gall's the feeling in the Cargin camp is we have edged ahead and intend to move on...

With your age 30+ players?? Surely not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2016, 09:58:51 PM
A few years left MR2.......but u can be sure there are more than a few quite ready to write the epitaths for both Cargin and urselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:55:34 AM
The provisional fixtures for 2017

Division 3 Football
Sat 05 Feb   Tipperary v Antrim
Sun 12 Feb   Offaly v Antrim
Sun 26 Feb   Antrim v Sligo
Sun 05 Mar   Louth v Antrim
Sun 19 Mar    Antrim v Laois
Sat 25 Mar     Armagh v Antrim
Sun 02 Apr   Antrim v Longford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on October 13, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/10/13/news/antrim-official-resigns-amid-row-over-county-final-venue-734419/

More great press for the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 11:53:44 AM
Tyrone is a lovely guy and has done serious work with Antrim over 25 years but surely he's been through a lot of these decisions over the years (as has other committee men) to know that this is part and parcel of it all!!

The fact that it's his own club is I'm sure is the most annoying thing about it, but there must be plenty club men out there that are on the Antrim committee who'd also love their club to get it?

Like I said before the Chairman generally has the final say .. Irish news must be on a slow news day to highlight that..

Big thanks to Tyrone for his great work sad that he left over this, his club will be grateful to have his experience to serve the club again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurlingstick on October 13, 2016, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 11:53:44 AM
Tyrone is a lovely guy and has done serious work with Antrim over 25 years but surely he's been through a lot of these decisions over the years (as has other committee men) to know that this is part and parcel of it all!!

The fact that it's his own club is I'm sure is the most annoying thing about it, but there must be plenty club men out there that are on the Antrim committee who'd also love their club to get it?

Like I said before the Chairman generally has the final say .. Irish news must be on a slow news day to highlight that..

Big thanks to Tyrone for his great work sad that he left over this, his club will be grateful to have his experience to serve the club again

They've made a mess of venue choice more than once this year. It's an easy decision. Best venue (facilities wise) should get the nod. Is Corrigan the most suitable venue? Definitely not. Look at the parking issue for one.

Same thing with the selection of Glenravel for the hurling semi final. Absolutely not the most appropriate venue to host the hurling semi final. Viewing was very restricted for many supporters.

Dunsilly for underage finals is the best decision of all .......come and watch our finals.......you have to park your car away from the ground .......jump on a bus to come to the pitch ..........get a bus back to your car after.......it's ridiculous.

Finals should go to the clubs with the best facilities. Not the club of the county Chairman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 13, 2016, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 11:53:44 AM
Tyrone is a lovely guy and has done serious work with Antrim over 25 years but surely he's been through a lot of these decisions over the years (as has other committee men) to know that this is part and parcel of it all!!

The fact that it's his own club is I'm sure is the most annoying thing about it, but there must be plenty club men out there that are on the Antrim committee who'd also love their club to get it?

Like I said before the Chairman generally has the final say .. Irish news must be on a slow news day to highlight that..

Big thanks to Tyrone for his great work sad that he left over this, his club will be grateful to have his experience to serve the club again

They've made a mess of venue choice more than once this year. It's an easy decision. Best venue (facilities wise) should get the nod. Is Corrigan the most suitable venue? Definitely not. Look at the parking issue for one.

Same thing with the selection of Glenravel for the hurling semi final. Absolutely not the most appropriate venue to host the hurling semi final. Viewing was very restricted for many supporters.

Dunsilly for underage finals is the best decision of all .......come and watch our finals.......you have to park your car away from the ground .......jump on a bus to come to the pitch ..........get a bus back to your car after.......it's ridiculous.

Finals should go to the clubs with the best facilities. Not the club of the county Chairman.

Lamhs would have been a decent choice . Well for viewing, parking an issue but sure Ballycastle couldn't even facilitate the amount of cars that turned up, you can please some of the people some of the time...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2016, 01:27:25 PM
Jeez MR2 seems u really are a tad biased methinks...seems anywhere other than in the S West is suitable.
Corrigan is a smashing pitch to play on, but a poor vantage point for those who pay to watch ;
Parking......well dont go there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 01:46:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2016, 01:27:25 PM
Jeez MR2 seems u really are a tad biased methinks...seems anywhere other than in the S West is suitable.
Corrigan is a smashing pitch to play on, but a poor vantage point for those who pay to watch ;
Parking......well dont go there.

Not biased at all, its at another ground, not Milltown Row... How many finals have been played in Belfast since Casement closed? I think if you look at it without the green tinted glasses you'd have to say then a Belfast venue every so often is going to happen, no?

As for Corrigan, changing room facilities and pitch is perfect, on parking, unfortunately one car from tourists which parked up the road away from the official parking area had its back windows smashed (seen aftermath as i was driving away) something which happens in Belfast a lot unfortunately.... Viewing well a lot to work on, if there was a full raised side on both ends then it would facilitate everybody... Lets see on Sunday if its as bad as some are making out!

See you then  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 13, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
what is the craic for parking on sunday in all seriousness folks. Im heading up for the minor match and i heard that you can only park one side of the whiterock road. i assume this is the case and that its either that or the neighbouring college?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2016, 03:23:51 PM
Solution to park in nearby car parks and use a park and ride? If the county can do it with Dunsilly surely they could do it with this? Some advertising for a local bus company.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Horse Box on October 13, 2016, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:55:34 AM
The provisional fixtures for 2017

Division 3 Football
Sat 05 Feb   Tipperary v Antrim
Sun 12 Feb   Offaly v Antrim
Sun 26 Feb   Antrim v Sligo
Sun 05 Mar   Louth v Antrim
Sun 19 Mar    Antrim v Laois
Sat 25 Mar     Armagh v Antrim
Sun 02 Apr   Antrim v Longford

Where did you get those from MoChara ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2016, 10:43:35 PM
So Donegal it is.

See you in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 13, 2016, 10:49:49 PM
Bring on Limerick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 13, 2016, 11:03:21 PM
Be a big split in the Aghagallon camp with Armagh getting Down in the Ulster Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on October 13, 2016, 11:04:26 PM
Miss you guys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: FermGael on October 13, 2016, 11:04:26 PM
Miss you guys

No free one this year! Training will have to start earlier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2016, 11:21:34 PM
Quote from: FermGael on October 13, 2016, 11:04:26 PM
Miss you guys

I'll maybe come down for a visit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 14, 2016, 08:21:01 AM
Quote from: Horse Box on October 13, 2016, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:55:34 AM
The provisional fixtures for 2017

Division 3 Football
Sat 05 Feb   Tipperary v Antrim
Sun 12 Feb   Offaly v Antrim
Sun 26 Feb   Antrim v Sligo
Sun 05 Mar   Louth v Antrim
Sun 19 Mar    Antrim v Laois
Sat 25 Mar     Armagh v Antrim
Sun 02 Apr   Antrim v Longford

Where did you get those from MoChara ?

http://sportsnewsireland.com/gaa/gaa-fixtures-provisional-list-2017-national-football-league/

They've the hurling ones up as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2016, 10:34:56 AM
Quote from: FermGael on October 13, 2016, 11:04:26 PM
Miss you guys

Its alright we will see et you in the qualifiers in Enniskillen. (or are we on different sides of that this year?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2016, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: FermGael on October 13, 2016, 11:04:26 PM
Miss you guys

I think I'd rather have you guys despite the fact you beat us every year!!

I was hoping for Down or Armagh to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 13, 2016, 11:03:21 PM
Be a big split in the Aghagallon camp with Armagh getting Down in the Ulster Championship

We have only a handful of Down supporters in the club. No big split in the club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2016, 11:15:51 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 13, 2016, 11:03:21 PM
Be a big split in the Aghagallon camp with Armagh getting Down in the Ulster Championship

We have only a handful of Down supporters in the club. No big split in the club!

Don't encourage him please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Better PR day for Antrim with great coverage of the Saffron Business Forum event last week and the opening of Dunsilly tomorrow. Both very positive developments but little or no word of recognition on it here.

Sure there will be detractors who wish to focus more on the car parking arrangements etc, but at the very least we now have 3 full size pitches to train our county teams on. Better than the days only a decade ago we were running about like nomads asking Randalstown rugby club for a lend of their floodlite facilities. So credit where it's due to everyone involved in the project for seeing it through. That encompassed 3 different county chairmen and various boards.

The Saffron Business Forum is a most interesting development. I couldn't make it last week but already have three or four businessmen committed to contributing £1k per year for the next five years. We all have a role to play, no matter how small. So let's all enjoy the positivity and do our bit to help turn Antrim Gaa around and set us up for a better future for the next generation.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2016, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 14, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Better PR day for Antrim with great coverage of the Saffron Business Forum event last week and the opening of Dunsilly tomorrow. Both very positive developments but little or no word of recognition on it here.

Sure there will be detractors who wish to focus more on the car parking arrangements etc, but at the very least we now have 3 full size pitches to train our county teams on. Better than the days only a decade ago we were running about like nomads asking Randalstown rugby club for a lend of their floodlite facilities. So credit where it's due to everyone involved in the project for seeing it through. That encompassed 3 different county chairmen and various boards.

The Saffron Business Forum is a most interesting development. I couldn't make it last week but already have three or four businessmen committed to contributing £1k per year for the next five years. We all have a role to play, no matter how small. So let's all enjoy the positivity and do our bit to help turn Antrim Gaa around and set us up for a better future for the next generation.

Credit where credit is due for sure but car parking is going to be an issue as it has a direct impact on supporters. Surely there will be people who will be negative but a spade is a spade, all well and good having 3 pitches and a fine set up but whats the point if there is limited parking?

I know very little about the Saffron Business forum apart from what I saw on twitter, looks a good idea.

It's hard to be positive when we still don't have a county ground
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 14, 2016, 12:58:57 PM
was at a match last sunday at Dunsilly, was impressed with the facilities and the hill there to stand and watch the match but parking will become a problem. i got the shuttle bus down for £1 which was handy but you still have to sit and wait around for it. people did park on the hard shoulder but i think the cops will have a problem with that if it continues.
It will be the main reason we wont see big games there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 14, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Just where is the best venue in Antrim for club matches?  the Belfast clubs don't want it in the SW and the SW clubs don't want it in Belfast unless its casement (which isn't going to happen anytime soon). Plenty of good pitches but all venue have their difficulties.  For obvious reasons planning finals for Toome or Milltown wouldn't be the greatest forward planning idea but what about the rest? All seem to have terrible parking problems but good pitches whether it be creggan, ahoghill, Ballymena, Hannahstown, Dunsilly or hightown. no one wants to go to glenavy and Corrigans views are the poorest of all which is why its unsuitable, regardless of the parking problem.   

The safest bet was Ahoghill because it kept the moneymen happy with the gate receipts, the neutrals from derry and tyrone antrim were happy enough to attend, the pitch is goo, vantage points are good and parking is available (although wet days are a risk!).  Bottom line is that glenavy is a better venue than Corrigan so a strange decision, but neither should have been brought forward as options.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
In my opinion and I know it wont be popular but all county finals should be played in Ballycastle unless they are involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2016, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 14, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Just where is the best venue in Antrim for club matches?  the Belfast clubs don't want it in the SW and the SW clubs don't want it in Belfast unless its casement (which isn't going to happen anytime soon). Plenty of good pitches but all venue have their difficulties.  For obvious reasons planning finals for Toome or Milltown wouldn't be the greatest forward planning idea but what about the rest? All seem to have terrible parking problems but good pitches whether it be creggan, ahoghill, Ballymena, Hannahstown, Dunsilly or hightown. no one wants to go to glenavy and Corrigans views are the poorest of all which is why its unsuitable, regardless of the parking problem.   

The safest bet was Ahoghill because it kept the moneymen happy with the gate receipts, the neutrals from derry and tyrone antrim were happy enough to attend, the pitch is goo, vantage points are good and parking is available (although wet days are a risk!).  Bottom line is that glenavy is a better venue than Corrigan so a strange decision, but neither should have been brought forward as options.

Ahoghill's pitch is along a country lane!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on October 14, 2016, 04:04:31 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 14, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Just where is the best venue in Antrim for club matches?  the Belfast clubs don't want it in the SW and the SW clubs don't want it in Belfast unless its casement (which isn't going to happen anytime soon). Plenty of good pitches but all venue have their difficulties.  For obvious reasons planning finals for Toome or Milltown wouldn't be the greatest forward planning idea but what about the rest? All seem to have terrible parking problems but good pitches whether it be creggan, ahoghill, Ballymena, Hannahstown, Dunsilly or hightown. no one wants to go to glenavy and Corrigans views are the poorest of all which is why its unsuitable, regardless of the parking problem.   

The safest bet was Ahoghill because it kept the moneymen happy with the gate receipts, the neutrals from derry and tyrone antrim were happy enough to attend, the pitch is goo, vantage points are good and parking is available (although wet days are a risk!).  Bottom line is that glenavy is a better venue than Corrigan so a strange decision, but neither should have been brought forward as options.

I was at the Cargin/St Johns semi and as far as I was concerned it went very smoothly. There is a step to go in terms of viewing. But short of Creggan, I'd say it's a fair distance for either of the teams to travel. It's also right beside a main road and decent carparking facilities. The move to Corrigan reeks of nepotism.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2016, 04:37:52 PM
Always found Glenavy a nice venue and it could have held the crowd and dealt with the parking albeit along country roads. But it would have been managed. The four dressing rooms needed for minors and seniors may be a problem.

With Derry and Tyrone finals on this Sunday too I'm afraid only Antrim football folk will be in attendance at Corrigan. In any event, regardless of how the venue was decided, Corrigan should easily fit 1500 people in and get them parked somewhere. There won't be more than that, even if 8 -10k will be drawn to Owenbeg and Healy Park.

Incidentally good luck to John Mc Keever from our club who is managing Coalisland in the Tyrone final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 14, 2016, 05:48:31 PM
I was in attendance at the Cargin St. John's game also, and felt that glenavy done a fine job in hosting the game. The parking in the school grounds was very convenient.

With both finals being city v country , glenavy would have been of a equal distance to all teams involved. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2016, 05:57:10 PM
Sure Cargin travelled for years to Casement for finals and there was no complaints! Some people are never pleased and if the game was in their backyard they'd still complain ffs!!

You can bet your bottom dollar that the players don't give a hoot to where the game is, they just want to win it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2016, 07:28:45 PM
Cargin playets have no complaints on the Corrigan sod MR2 but those who will travel to part with their money at the gate have cause to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2016, 07:51:58 PM
Can't understand what you mean CB.  You think people travelling from SW should get in free! Am I missing something??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 14, 2016, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 14, 2016, 07:51:58 PM
Can't understand what you mean CB.  You think people travelling from SW should get in free! Am I missing something??

He means supporters will have an issue paying to watch the game in sub standard viewing facilities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 14, 2016, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 14, 2016, 07:51:58 PM
Can't understand what you mean CB.  You think people travelling from SW should get in free! Am I missing something??

He means supporters will have an issue paying to watch the game in sub standard viewing facilities.

Get down early then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Parking or lack of such in a safe environment is the primary concern.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Parking or lack of such in a safe environment is the primary concern.

One car?? It happened outside Casement too! What parking did it have?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2016, 08:52:10 AM
Looking forward to tomorrow. The minor final is intriguing and difficult to call. Dunloy can't see themselves beaten and have two or three guys playing who could step up to county seniors in a year or two if they wanted...ability wise anyway. Hurling preferences may influence that though. However I watched this St Brigids team in the Paul McGirr final two years ago and they have a fine team too, although they have been disrupted a bit by three of them playing rugby today and a couple at oversees university for the last month. But that's life and may the best team win. Really looking forward to it, I think the quality will be higher than we have seen at a minor final for some time.

The senior game is also hard to call. Cargin will win IF they produce the A game they have shown they are capable of, for most of the game. But Creggan didn't let that happen for long periods, although they got stuck in and stopped Cargin from opening up. St Galls are in an interesting position. Back at a city venue with absolutely nothing to lose. They won't fear Cargin and have plenty of good players with bucket loads of craft and championship winning pedigree. The longer they hang in the greater their chance.

As a follower who hasn't seen too many SW championship winners I hope Cargin can pull it off. But I think it will be close and again may the best team win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 15, 2016, 09:03:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Parking or lack of such in a safe environment is the primary concern.

One car?? It happened outside Casement too! What parking did it have?

Someone from Cushendall got their car broken into too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 15, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
it really is a no brainer, Ballycastle is the best venue for all big matches, you can even get a poke...

Corrigan nor Glenavy would not even get in my top three venues ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 15, 2016, 11:16:19 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 15, 2016, 09:03:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Parking or lack of such in a safe environment is the primary concern.

One car?? It happened outside Casement too! What parking did it have?

Someone from Cushendall got their car broken into too.

Agree. I wouldn't be leavin my motor outside

It is worse than outside Casement that's a fact. Your car can be broken into anywhere to be fair but it is heightened on a day like that and hoods will be aware a big amount of cars are coming tomorrow ....takes 5 or 6 seconds to smash a window and lift a bag or whatever that's been carelessly left in view inside a car. Reality is its an area with a higher crime rate than the country venues with plenty of ratruns for the hoods to disappear into. Plenty (vast vast majority) of people living round there are fantastic people but sadly tarnished by the odd hood.
I'll be gettin a lift to the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2016, 02:50:49 PM
So bar me bannside and country bumpkin nobody actually has a view on the match? Right we should start a thread on parking, hoods, and venues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 15, 2016, 02:57:04 PM
Having watched our lads doing their stuff on the training field this week and with TS leading the way in everything sure it underlines the qualities of the man after undergoing surgery a few weeks back.
He is certainly in contention for a start berth and retirement, as a few predicted is far from his mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 15, 2016, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2016, 02:50:49 PM
So bar me bannside and country bumpkin nobody actually has a view on the match? Right we should start a thread on parking, hoods, and venues

Cargin by 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 15, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
Severe rain warning in place until Sunday night. Keep your eyes peeled.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 15, 2016, 05:46:03 PM
Will heavy rain deter the hoods?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 15, 2016, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 15, 2016, 05:46:03 PM
Will heavy rain deter the hoods?

It might deter Cargin, so there might be a smash and grab inside and outside of Corrigan tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2016, 10:41:53 PM
Can't wait for this one. Redemption day for Cargin. A win in the city will banish a lot of bad memories. A win for St Galls will put the city back on top of bragging rights. Not as if they've gone away lol. A fair bit at stake. Can Cargin fly the flag for SW. Can Galls prove they haven't gone away? Can John Brennan make it 4 out of 4. Bring it on....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 15, 2016, 10:57:24 PM
Think Cargin have already won a few titles in the city Bannside....74.. 95...99..2000...2006....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
Definitely flying the flag for the South West CB. Good luck 2moro. Two good teams. Which one will be great at 4.30pm tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 15, 2016, 11:28:58 PM
Two good teams BS.....but win or lose Cargin will most certainly endure .....will Gall's if they lose??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 16, 2016, 12:20:02 AM
Galls by 5. Unbeaten in finals in god knows how long.

Kel, k mcgourty, niblock, karl s, pollock etc etc will have too much craft for Cargin i think

But then in sport you never do know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 15, 2016, 10:57:24 PM
Think Cargin have already won a few titles in the city Bannside....74.. 95...99..2000...2006....
How many finals have you beaten us in ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2016, 09:05:22 AM
Savage rain during the night and early morning. 

Let's hope corrigan hill holds up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2016, 09:05:22 AM
Savage rain during the night and early morning. 

Let's hope corrigan hill holds up.

Pitch inspection at 10.30... can't see it being on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 16, 2016, 10:00:51 AM
Aye, monsoon conditions at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:04:46 AM
I'd say Cargin will get their wish and Ahoghill will get the match on Wed night !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:04:46 AM
I'd say Cargin will get their wish and Ahoghill will get the match on Wed night !!

Bad rain up there also bud?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:04:46 AM
I'd say Cargin will get their wish and Ahoghill will get the match on Wed night !!

Bad rain up there also bud?

Game needs to be played before the 30th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Minor game off!! Pitch to be checked at 12
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 16, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
Game on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 16, 2016, 03:32:25 PM
Score line suggests a Cargin massacre so far.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on October 16, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
Any score ?  Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 16, 2016, 04:34:43 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on October 16, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
Any score ?  Thanks
From the Antrim twitter page
#NorthernSwitchgear SFC Final
2 mins left  2nd Half
St Galls: 0-6(6)
Cargin: 1-10(13)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 16, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
Hard luck Glenravel. Well done Cargin. Any aghagallon men know how the Armagh final is going?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on October 16, 2016, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 16, 2016, 04:34:43 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on October 16, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
Any score ?  Thanks
From the Antrim twitter page
#NorthernSwitchgear SFC Final
2 mins left  2nd Half
St Galls: 0-6(6)
Cargin: 1-10(13)
Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 05:21:25 PM
Cargin win the game in the first half with some well taken scores and a wonderful taken goal by Tomas, we didn't get going had a lot of handling errors and lost possession very easy which on 3 occasions they hit scores from!!

Fair play Cargin though they knew how to see the game out in second half, slowed it down and held on to the ball when needed.

I hope that dislocation heals quick for Close, took some wonderful frees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2016, 05:21:50 PM
Cargin never looked in doubt. St Galls a team in decline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2016, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 05:21:25 PM
Cargin win the game in the first half with some well taken scores and a wonderful taken goal by Tomas, we didn't get going had a lot of handling errors and lost possession very easy which on 3 occasions they hit scores from!!

Fair play Cargin though they knew how to see the game out in second half, slowed it down and held on to the ball when needed.

I hope that dislocation heals quick for Close, took some wonderful frees

Bit of class there MR2. Gracious in defeat, no excuses. Fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 16, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
Hard luck Glenravel. Well done Cargin. Any aghagallon men know how the Armagh final is going?

Our lough shore neighbours won
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 06:11:36 PM
On another note Corrigan was in perfect condition considering the weather, and no parking issues 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2016, 06:15:23 PM
Cargin banished a lot of painful memories today by both out muscling and outplaying a St Galls team that is plain for all to see past its sell by date. There can be no one who can doubt the JB factor now. He put the discipline and hard work into Cargin after Eamon Mc Cann laid some good foundations before him. Pleased for Tomas. He was my MOM and needed that after missing a penalty a few years ago that cost them the championship. He was class today.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2016, 06:19:47 PM
Agree MR, nothing wrong with Corrigan today.  It coped with the small to middle sized crowd adequately.

On another note, when if ever, did all three championships come to the country. It's up to St Brigids now to see if they can halt that statistic in the minor final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 16, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
When is the minor game to be played ?

Pitch coped well with the weather.

Tomas, Paul mc cann, John carron and Ronan Devlin all very good today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 16, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 16, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
When is the minor game to be played ?

Pitch coped well with the weather.

Tomas, Paul mc cann, John carron and Ronan Devlin all very good today.

Wed night 8pm. Venue TBC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 16, 2016, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 16, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
When is the minor game to be played ?

Pitch coped well with the weather.

Tomas, Paul mc cann, John carron and Ronan Devlin all very good today.

Wed night 8pm. Venue TBC

Always think that matches under lights are like a totally different sport, lights aren't exactly premier league standard and are difficult to play under. Think they should've waited to next weekend

Cargin were full value today. Loss of key Galls players plus the age factor was too much for Galls, plus Cargin were good

Hope they can push on in Ulster, a bit of belief for the full match and there's no reason they can't do well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Gold on October 16, 2016, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 16, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 16, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
When is the minor game to be played ?

Pitch coped well with the weather.

Tomas, Paul mc cann, John carron and Ronan Devlin all very good today.

Wed night 8pm. Venue TBC

Always think that matches under lights are like a totally different sport, lights aren't exactly premier league standard and are difficult to play under. Think they should've waited to next weekend

Cargin were full value today. Loss of key Galls players plus the age factor was too much for Galls, plus Cargin were good

Hope they can push on in Ulster, a bit of belief for the full match and there's no reason they can't do well

I think they certainly can push on... they need that level the whole match and not lose their discipline...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 16, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
Who do cargin play now? 12/1 for Ulster I see.  From what I seen today that's value
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 16, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
Who do cargin play now? 12/1 for Ulster I see.  From what I seen today that's value

Tyrone champions!! I wish we'd have given them a sterner test today, that would have given you a better idea!

But Tyrone club teams haven't a great record in Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on October 16, 2016, 09:28:24 PM
From a neutrals perspective Cargin very impressive in the 1st half, won all the breaks, took some great points from play and frees.

The goal was top class, similar to the situation Pollock found himself in with about 5 mins gone, one sailed over the bar the other into the top corner and that was the cushion Cargin needed.

Second half was very poor, Cargin did what they had to do. Will do well in Ulster have the power, strength and speed all over the pitch to deal with most teams.

MR2 will there be many retirements now? Has the conveyor belt much talent coming through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on October 16, 2016, 09:28:24 PM
From a neutrals perspective Cargin very impressive in the 1st half, won all the breaks, took some great points from play and frees.

The goal was top class, similar to the situation Pollock found himself in with about 5 mins gone, one sailed over the bar the other into the top corner and that was the cushion Cargin needed.

Second half was very poor, Cargin did what they had to do. Will do well in Ulster have the power, strength and speed all over the pitch to deal with most teams.

MR2 will there be many retirements now? Has the conveyor belt much talent coming through.

Was asking the same question afterwards, wont be wholesale retirements and the conveyor belt isnt as well run as before but there are some great young lads coming through! Cargin themselves havent had super minor teams but manage to bring along lads that fit into the mould... we are trying to do the same, until then its about bedding lads in... I'm sure some of our lads are disappointed with their own performance today, but they will be back as the rest still not up to it..... yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 16, 2016, 10:43:21 PM
To be fair to Chris Kerr the penalty was saved rather than missed. if memory serves well it was a great save too.

Minor final to be played on Wednesday night, which suggests Ahoghill as venue - Queens would be ideal but for whatever reason we don't play games there. Thought maybe the two games could be played at separate venues today, given the weather and the forecast a double header was off the cards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 09:12:56 AM
Very disappointed that the minor game was called off. Bus booked, team meals booked etc all had to be cancelled last moment. the fellas were all on the bus and ready to go.

Now wednesday night at either the Dub, ballymena or Ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on October 17, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 16, 2016, 10:43:21 PM
To be fair to Chris Kerr the penalty was saved rather than missed. if memory serves well it was a great save too.

Minor final to be played on Wednesday night, which suggests Ahoghill as venue - Queens would be ideal but for whatever reason we don't play games there. Thought maybe the two games could be played at separate venues today, given the weather and the forecast a double header was off the cards.

John Brennan's comments in the Irish news are as arrogant as you can get. I didn't see him falling over himself to take the Cargin job when St Galls were at their peak. To suggest Cargin are too good for Antrim is an insult. Hopefully the Tyrone champions will put them in their place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2016, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 09:12:56 AM
Very disappointed that the minor game was called off. Bus booked, team meals booked etc all had to be cancelled last moment. the fellas were all on the bus and ready to go.

Now wednesday night at either the Dub, ballymena or Ahoghill.

What happens from a financial perspective in those situations does anyone know? Do deposits get compensated if there are any?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 10:30:01 AM
Im not sure but i think from talking to the managers last night they should get sorted ok. Its not ideal at all. i got a call at a quarter to 11 to confirm that the game was off for social media notices.

Maybe when they select a venue next time they will chose a pitch thats capable to taking two matches in October. Now it means lads taking time out of work, some are working away from home and now have to stay at home all week now. its the same for both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
In fairness the rain storms yesterday morning in the West were almost biblical.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on October 17, 2016, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 10:30:01 AM
Im not sure but i think from talking to the managers last night they should get sorted ok. Its not ideal at all. i got a call at a quarter to 11 to confirm that the game was off for social media notices.

Maybe when they select a venue next time they will chose a pitch thats capable to taking two matches in October. Now it means lads taking time out of work, some are working away from home and now have to stay at home all week now. its the same for both teams.

The pitch was in very good condition and probably could've coped with the two matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2016, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 10:30:01 AM
Im not sure but i think from talking to the managers last night they should get sorted ok. Its not ideal at all. i got a call at a quarter to 11 to confirm that the game was off for social media notices.

Maybe when they select a venue next time they will chose a pitch thats capable to taking two matches in October. Now it means lads taking time out of work, some are working away from home and now have to stay at home all week now. its the same for both teams.

Are you serious? the rain was mental, and no ground (when pitch inspection was carried out) was able to take 2 games, as it panned out the weather was fine and corrigan's pitch held up well, as you'd expect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 11:24:11 AM
Aw i know that JC and theres not a lot can be done about bad rain. Its frustrating for everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on October 17, 2016, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 10:30:01 AM
Im not sure but i think from talking to the managers last night they should get sorted ok. Its not ideal at all. i got a call at a quarter to 11 to confirm that the game was off for social media notices.

Maybe when they select a venue next time they will chose a pitch thats capable to taking two matches in October. Now it means lads taking time out of work, some are working away from home and now have to stay at home all week now. its the same for both teams.

The pitch was in very good condition and probably could've coped with the two matches.

Im seeing now that the Mageean Cup semi final games are going ahead on tuesday now??? are they expecting the minor final not to be played weds now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
Danske Bank Mageean Cup Semifinals are now back ON 2mora (Tuesday) @ 2.30pm in Ballymena and St Enda's because Antrim Minor Final is off.

https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/787956552955289600 (https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/787956552955289600)

Could that tweet be any more vague
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 17, 2016, 11:41:04 AM
I thought the pitch held out pretty well myself especially considering the rain that fell from Saturday.  Hard to know - could probably have taken the two games but was it a chance worth taking - imagine the furore had the pitch been cut to bits for the showpiece game. 

I think that St Galls are certainly on a slow decline - Cargin were really good value for their win and have had sterner tests along the way this year while St Galls looked every bit an ageing team.  It is really up to the likes of Creggan, Lamh Dhearg, St Johns and a few others to show some belief next season on to move us away from the duopoly we have had now for near enough a generation but one which has given us maybe the finest team to grace Antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Why the rush to play the minor final mid week? Would it not be more suitable to play it some weekend in daylight ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 17, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 16, 2016, 10:43:21 PM
To be fair to Chris Kerr the penalty was saved rather than missed. if memory serves well it was a great save too.

Minor final to be played on Wednesday night, which suggests Ahoghill as venue - Queens would be ideal but for whatever reason we don't play games there. Thought maybe the two games could be played at separate venues today, given the weather and the forecast a double header was off the cards.

John Brennan's comments in the Irish news are as arrogant as you can get. I didn't see him falling over himself to take the Cargin job when St Galls were at their peak. To suggest Cargin are too good for Antrim is an insult. Hopefully the Tyrone champions will put them in their place
Think ur last comment underlines the real sentiment contained within the comment u make............ur eyes are possibly a darker shade of green than the Cargin top.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 17, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
Whats the assessment of this St Galls team?  A tired old team with too many miles on the clock or have they enough in them for a decent crack next year? They looked a bit lost up front until CJ came on.

Cargin played the game very intelligently, got the sensible scores with the wind at their backs and protected that despite being down to 14 men early in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Why the rush to play the minor final mid week? Would it not be more suitable to play it some weekend in daylight ?

U21 championship is this weekend, saturday away to Cargan for ourselves. I would assume that would have to be pushed back if they wanted to play sat.

Also its been a month and a half since the semi finals for both teams. Thats a ridiculous time to have to wait to play after a semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2016, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Why the rush to play the minor final mid week? Would it not be more suitable to play it some weekend in daylight ?

U21 championship is this weekend, saturday away to Cargan for ourselves. I would assume that would have to be pushed back if they wanted to play sat.

Also its been a month and a half since the semi finals for both teams. Thats a ridiculous time to have to wait to play after a semi final.

Would it of suited your dual minors who also play senior to play it inside that 6 weeks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on October 17, 2016, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 17, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 16, 2016, 10:43:21 PM
To be fair to Chris Kerr the penalty was saved rather than missed. if memory serves well it was a great save too.

Minor final to be played on Wednesday night, which suggests Ahoghill as venue - Queens would be ideal but for whatever reason we don't play games there. Thought maybe the two games could be played at separate venues today, given the weather and the forecast a double header was off the cards.

John Brennan's comments in the Irish news are as arrogant as you can get. I didn't see him falling over himself to take the Cargin job when St Galls were at their peak. To suggest Cargin are too good for Antrim is an insult. Hopefully the Tyrone champions will put them in their place
Think ur last comment underlines the real sentiment contained within the comment u make............ur eyes are possibly a darker shade of green than the Cargin top.............

Absolutely not-hats off to Cargin however their manager's comments are both insulting and daft-unless of course he thinks the county boundaries should be redrawn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 17, 2016, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Why the rush to play the minor final mid week? Would it not be more suitable to play it some weekend in daylight ?

U21 championship is this weekend, saturday away to Cargan for ourselves. I would assume that would have to be pushed back if they wanted to play sat.

Also its been a month and a half since the semi finals for both teams. Thats a ridiculous time to have to wait to play after a semi final.

Would it of suited your dual minors who also play senior to play it inside that 6 weeks?

Yeah it would, theres a fair number of U16's in that squad who were playing hurling as well at the same time for that and the minor hurlers. the footballers have barely kicked a ball in that time since the semi final other than 3 of them who were with our seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 17, 2016, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Why the rush to play the minor final mid week? Would it not be more suitable to play it some weekend in daylight ?

U21 championship is this weekend, saturday away to Cargan for ourselves. I would assume that would have to be pushed back if they wanted to play sat.

Also its been a month and a half since the semi finals for both teams. Thats a ridiculous time to have to wait to play after a semi final.

Would it of suited your dual minors who also play senior to play it inside that 6 weeks?

Yeah it would, theres a fair number of U16's in that squad who were playing hurling as well at the same time for that and the minor hurlers. the footballers have barely kicked a ball in that time since the semi final other than 3 of them who were with our seniors.

That is that question answered.

Your right what you are saying, could of and should of been played before now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2016, 04:37:07 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=262187

More hassle now for casement..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 04:39:48 PM
i was actually told that it was to be played as part of a double header under lights at Ahoghill on a friday night along with the B final but then it was moved to be a opener to the senior match, same as the hurling was doing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 05:34:51 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 04:39:48 PM
i was actually told that it was to be played as part of a double header under lights at Ahoghill on a friday night along with the B final but then it was moved to be a opener to the senior match, same as the hurling was doing.

That's what I was lead to believe also, I queried it on this thread at the time and was told it was gonna be a double header with senior game.

An inconvenience to both sides & supporters if it is to be a midweek game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 08:56:14 PM
its now becoming apparent that the game wont be played on wednesday now. Croke Park rules were that all county finals were to be played before the 9th of Oct to accomodate school games.

Ulster schools are going ahead with their scheduled games and the Mageean Cup games go ahead.

There prob no chance this game will be played this week now from chatting to the managers.

Fuking farce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2016, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 08:56:14 PM
its now becoming apparent that the game wont be played on wednesday now. Croke Park rules were that all county finals were to be played before the 9th of Oct to accomodate school games.

Ulster schools are going ahead with their scheduled games and the Mageean Cup games go ahead.

There prob no chance this game will be played this week now from chatting to the managers.

Fuking farce.

A farce that the rain caused the game to be cancelled or a farce that most people wanted a return of the minor finals and senior finals being played as they used to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2016, 09:25:41 PM
Conspiracy theorists take note......JB having been cited by a referee for causing assault on his person in a league game v Ballymena All Saint's in a game 4/5 months past the merry men of the Antrim CCC handed down a term of suspension to the aforementioned Cargin manager. Seems JB dared to put a hand on the said official whilst speaking to him.......laughable sanction imposed which all those within Ballymena team/mentors/spectators will pay testament.
In fact those employed in that August body (CCC) are so secure in their knowledge of the rule book they should not or in fact could not sanction a member of a Derry based club as to pitch based overseeing and Ulster Council directed thus.
Now the Antrim CCC were not amused and continued in search of their proverbial pound of flesh......and surprise, surprise JB was informed on Wed nite last 12th Oct that he was forthwith under suspension and not allowed to be inside the fence/pitch area for Sunday's county final.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 17, 2016, 09:25:41 PM
Conspiracy theorists take note......JB having been cited by a referee for causing assault on his person in a league game v Ballymena All Saint's in a game 4/5 months past the merry men of the Antrim CCC handed down a term of suspension to the aforementioned Cargin manager. Seems JB dared to put a hand on the said official whilst speaking to him.......laughable sanction imposed which all those within Ballymena team/mentors/spectators will pay testament.
In fact those employed in that August body (CCC) are so secure in their knowledge of the rule book they should not or in fact could not sanction a member of a Derry based club as to pitch based overseeing and Ulster Council directed thus.
Now the Antrim CCC were not amused and continued in search of their proverbial pound of flesh......and surprise, surprise JB was informed on Wed nite last 12th Oct that he was forthwith under suspension and not allowed to be inside the fence/pitch area for Sunday's county final.........

We've a very delicate bunch of referees in Antrim. Majority of which are to busy trying to make a name for themselves for the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2016, 10:57:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2016, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2016, 08:56:14 PM
its now becoming apparent that the game wont be played on wednesday now. Croke Park rules were that all county finals were to be played before the 9th of Oct to accomodate school games.

Ulster schools are going ahead with their scheduled games and the Mageean Cup games go ahead.

There prob no chance this game will be played this week now from chatting to the managers.

Fuking farce.
.


A farce that the rain caused the game to be cancelled or a farce that most people wanted a return of the minor finals and senior finals being played as they used to?

A farce in the sense that it will Be nearly 2 months between the semi final and  the final for both teams 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 17, 2016, 11:04:14 PM
What date was given for the minor final in the master fixture schedule at the start of the year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

Look our seniors had a long wait to the final as did Cargin... clubs have an even longer wait once they win the Ulster championship! As you know so what you do is have challenge games with other clubs, preferably other counties... I'm sure the frustration is playing on everybody but it's the same for both teams, at least there won't be any injuries and the game plan should be well backed up with the players fully aware of their roles!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on October 18, 2016, 10:07:59 AM
When you stand back and look at our club fixtures in general you have to ask yourself 'why the f**k do we play our showpiece events (county finals) in September/October'?.

I know there are so many reasons, Ulster cship/county fixtures etc etc but we really are putting the cart before the horse. Play our county chsips in June/July/August please. Minors going to play the biggest game of their careers at this stage of the year is shameful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 18, 2016, 10:25:43 AM
look its the show piece event for minors and for it to drag out for 2 months waiting on the senior final is just silly. its plain it was never supposed to be that way as the fixtures were set out that they would be separate events. To change it made no sense at all and them not to be able to play it a week later is laughable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2016, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: Usain on October 18, 2016, 10:07:59 AM
When you stand back and look at our club fixtures in general you have to ask yourself 'why the f**k do we play our showpiece events (county finals) in September/October'?.

I know there are so many reasons, Ulster cship/county fixtures etc etc but we really are putting the cart before the horse. Play our county chsips in June/July/August please. Minors going to play the biggest game of their careers at this stage of the year is shameful.

Sadly we aren't successful enough at county to see the reasons. To be honest there should be no reasons our hurling or football shouldn't be played off in the summer. However it would be unfair on teams playing in ulster as they won't be sharp enough due to successful counties having to play off later.

I always thought the hurling could be played off much sooner as there is a big wait anyway and it's not like other ulster counties would be successful in the hurling but it probably wouldn't work with the dual aspect in derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 10:55:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2016, 10:04:39 AM
Did St Galls not only play their semi final against Lámh Dhearg last week?

big gap bewtween that game and the quaterfinal was what i was getting at, but you'd know that, as they had a drawn game against yourselves won the replay then their hurler had games and so on so it was a gap!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 18, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

If the match had been scheduled for 23rd sept initially, you can understand why the clubs involved may feel aggrieved that it still hasn't been played, especially when you look at the semi final date.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 18, 2016, 01:23:34 PM
I don't understand how some people fail to the annoyance of the clubs involved. Buses booked, meals booked etc and to be told when your on the bus the game is off is a bit of a hassle. Nobody can control the weather but if they original date had been stuck to then this wouldn't of happened.

Suppose when you come from a club that throws the toys out of the pram when they don't get what they want or what venue they want, then it's hard to understand other clubs frustration when things don't go their way.

Saffron vision eh..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 18, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 18, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

If the match had been scheduled for 23rd sept initially, you can understand why the clubs involved may feel aggrieved that it still hasn't been played, especially when you look at the semi final date.

Am I not right in saying the reason the game wasn't played on the 23rd was due to Dunloy being in the intermediate football final the next day and the minor hurling final on the Sunday? To play it before the senior final seemed like a sensible solution. I can sympathize with the powers that be slightly over the weekends events as when the decision was made it was bucketing down, imagine the uproar if the minor match had went ahead and rendered the pitch unplayable for the senior game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2016, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on October 18, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 18, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

If the match had been scheduled for 23rd sept initially, you can understand why the clubs involved may feel aggrieved that it still hasn't been played, especially when you look at the semi final date.

Am I not right in saying the reason the game wasn't played on the 23rd was due to Dunloy being in the intermediate football final the next day and the minor hurling final on the Sunday? To play it before the senior final seemed like a sensible solution. I can sympathize with the powers that be slightly over the weekends events as when the decision was made it was bucketing down, imagine the uproar if the minor match had went ahead and rendered the pitch unplayable for the senior game.
And if the games had been scheduled for Ahoghill or Glenavy there is no doubt both would certainly have proceeded as planned.
Someone please enlighten me as to why the senior and minor finals had to be played in a South Antrim location ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2016, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on October 18, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 18, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

If the match had been scheduled for 23rd sept initially, you can understand why the clubs involved may feel aggrieved that it still hasn't been played, especially when you look at the semi final date.

Am I not right in saying the reason the game wasn't played on the 23rd was due to Dunloy being in the intermediate football final the next day and the minor hurling final on the Sunday? To play it before the senior final seemed like a sensible solution. I can sympathize with the powers that be slightly over the weekends events as when the decision was made it was bucketing down, imagine the uproar if the minor match had went ahead and rendered the pitch unplayable for the senior game.
And if the games had been scheduled for Ahoghill or Glenavy there is no doubt both would certainly have proceeded as planned.
Someone please enlighten me as to why the senior and minor finals had to be played in a South Antrim location ???

Why do they have to be a South West venue? or a North Antrim venue? 

All the pitches would have been inspected at the same time and the same resut would have been given, senior game to go ahead, minor game camcelled, i mean to drag this on and on and on is a bit silly now... it was a monsoon! league games would have been cancelled and never mind the reserve game before it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 18, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2016, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on October 18, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 18, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

If the match had been scheduled for 23rd sept initially, you can understand why the clubs involved may feel aggrieved that it still hasn't been played, especially when you look at the semi final date.

Am I not right in saying the reason the game wasn't played on the 23rd was due to Dunloy being in the intermediate football final the next day and the minor hurling final on the Sunday? To play it before the senior final seemed like a sensible solution. I can sympathize with the powers that be slightly over the weekends events as when the decision was made it was bucketing down, imagine the uproar if the minor match had went ahead and rendered the pitch unplayable for the senior game.
And if the games had been scheduled for Ahoghill or Glenavy there is no doubt both would certainly have proceeded as planned.
Someone please enlighten me as to why the senior and minor finals had to be played in a South Antrim location ???

Why do they have to be a South West venue? or a North Antrim venue? 

All the pitches would have been inspected at the same time and the same resut would have been given, senior game to go ahead, minor game camcelled, i mean to drag this on and on and on is a bit silly now... it was a monsoon! league games would have been cancelled and never mind the reserve game before it!

Read your posts before posting mate. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 18, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2016, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2016, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on October 18, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 18, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 18, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
it was on the county web page as a Friday night in ahoghill at one point. def was as it was down as a double header with the minor B final, fri 23rd sept, which was roughly a month between the semi final and final.

the semi final was the 23rd of August, 8 weeks ag0. Its not acceptable for either club imo.

If the match had been scheduled for 23rd sept initially, you can understand why the clubs involved may feel aggrieved that it still hasn't been played, especially when you look at the semi final date.

Am I not right in saying the reason the game wasn't played on the 23rd was due to Dunloy being in the intermediate football final the next day and the minor hurling final on the Sunday? To play it before the senior final seemed like a sensible solution. I can sympathize with the powers that be slightly over the weekends events as when the decision was made it was bucketing down, imagine the uproar if the minor match had went ahead and rendered the pitch unplayable for the senior game.
And if the games had been scheduled for Ahoghill or Glenavy there is no doubt both would certainly have proceeded as planned.
Someone please enlighten me as to why the senior and minor finals had to be played in a South Antrim location ???

Why do they have to be a South West venue? or a North Antrim venue? 

All the pitches would have been inspected at the same time and the same resut would have been given, senior game to go ahead, minor game camcelled, i mean to drag this on and on and on is a bit silly now... it was a monsoon! league games would have been cancelled and never mind the reserve game before it!

Read your posts before posting mate. Thanks.

busy day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 18, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
Just to show we're not the only county with drawn out tail ends of championship

Limerick Premier MHC Final
Na Piarsaigh  v Kilmallock  fixed for Bruff on 19th November at 2pm as per Fixtures List just issued
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
Minor hurling championship in Nov......in Antrim I say never...never...never....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on October 18, 2016, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 18, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
Just to show we're not the only county with drawn out tail ends of championship

Limerick Premier MHC Final
Na Piarsaigh  v Kilmallock  fixed for Bruff on 19th November at 2pm as per Fixtures List just issued

What is the point? Noone benefits from this. I truly despair.

Hope this new group the CPA shakes things up a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2016, 08:29:36 AM
well if they stick to whats fixed at the start of the year and not move games to suit themselves then it wont happen. theres no reason for us to be not having it completed in good time due to our lack of involvement at the business end of the the county scene each year. I dont see that changing next year either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2016, 09:54:21 AM
Clubs move games throughout the season because it doesn't suit them so ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2016, 01:52:38 PM
final has been re-set for Friday the 28th in Ahoghill at 8pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 19, 2016, 03:39:25 PM
I'm not sure both clubs have agreed to the Minor final on the 28th.  Seems like the debacle will drag on for a while.  Looks like a shambles and little consideration for a bunch of young lads who will be part of the future for Antrim.  No better way to kill any level of interest in representing your county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2016, 04:25:43 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 19, 2016, 03:39:25 PM
I'm not sure both clubs have agreed to the Minor final on the 28th.  Seems like the debacle will drag on for a while.  Looks like a shambles and little consideration for a bunch of young lads who will be part of the future for Antrim.  No better way to kill any level of interest in representing your county.

I'd say the county will make the call and expect the clubs to be there... if accommodation can't be found

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2016, 07:15:06 PM
Both clubs tossed for it. We wanted ahoghill, they wanted the dub.

Fair play to the clubs for sorting it out between them. Who ever won it they went with and notified the county. We had to sort out the thing ourselves!

We're playing on the Ulster minor hurling semi final the week after so the following week was out for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 19, 2016, 07:59:01 PM
Venue might be agreed, but the date i.e. 28th is not agreed as far as I know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2016, 10:05:16 PM
I wouldn't hold any hope that it will be played the following week with our involvement in the Ulster championship.
This could end up being dragged out for a while then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 20, 2016, 09:46:02 AM
I think both clubs willing to play this Friday 21st & looks like this is now the date! Hopefully we will get a decent game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
yeah its def fri night the 21st now. good its got sorted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
Glad to see some city teams don't throw the toys out of the pram when a final is fixed for the South West.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2016, 01:01:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
Glad to see some city teams don't throw the toys out of the pram when a final is fixed for the South West.
;).............sure haven't they a point..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
Glad to see some city teams don't throw the toys out of the pram when a final is fixed for the South West.

fair play to the clubs, they wanted to sort it out for the sake of the players and tossed for the venue. Good to see it got sorted out for tomorrow night. Looking forward to the match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 20, 2016, 02:06:31 PM
How did O'Donnells manage to get into the U21 B Championship after getting knocked out of the A Championship?   I know their grading round was cancelled so they got straight into the A Championship but this does not wash as a reason to give them a second bite for me as I am pretty sure the same thing happened to Randalstown, perhaps as recently as last year and when they got beaten in the A Championship they were gone.  Or is there certain rules for certain clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 20, 2016, 02:10:41 PM
Or is there a new structure in place this year where teams can get a couple of chances?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2016, 02:53:49 PM
Failed to spot you on Sunday MR2........
Gall's did lose gracefully but the trick is can they regain composure and come back strong.......see a few retirements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 03:43:36 PM
Have to say the highlights of the final on the county website are a great job. Interviews and commentary all very professional. MR2 I didn't see you on them though.

Hopefully my eyes were playing tricks and surely there wasn't blue men leaving before the end?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!


I thought you would of stood and clapped the champions off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!


I thought you would of stood and clapped the champions off.

I know! Madness!! Ah well I'll wait till the Ulster final to clap them off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!


I thought you would of stood and clapped the champions off.

I know! Madness!! Ah well I'll wait till the Ulster final to clap them off

Sore loser I'd say.

Not the only one from down the milltown row if all is to be believed. The band of brothers
disbanded? Could you get me an application form for the managers job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!


I thought you would of stood and clapped the champions off.

I know! Madness!! Ah well I'll wait till the Ulster final to clap them off

Sore loser I'd say.

Not the only one from down the milltown row if all is to be believed. The band of brothers
disbanded? Could you get me an application form for the managers job?

Sho me a happy loser and I'll show you a loser!!!  Whats your CV like PJ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2016, 12:17:27 AM
I can't see many official retirees around St Galls. Have any been confirmed so far?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!


I thought you would of stood and clapped the champions off.

I know! Madness!! Ah well I'll wait till the Ulster final to clap them off

Sore loser I'd say.

Not the only one from down the milltown row if all is to be believed. The band of brothers
disbanded? Could you get me an application form for the managers job?

Sho me a happy loser and I'll show you a loser!!!  Whats your CV like PJ?

I've coached my clubs Un8/Un10s right up to minor so I can sort out a squabble between children, should be enough to get me that job after last weeks antics after the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2016, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
No need to see the highlights as the match is still very easy to remember  :(

You'll get people leaving early at every game, supporters neutrals the lot, I was at the scoreboard end and left at the 34 minute of the game, Cargin lads going to at same time. Chatting to a family on way round to car!! Shocked, no just people know when the game is over...

Cargin have the personnel to move on from last years Cross game... hopefully they will bring the counties low nationwide opinion of Antrim football to a better place, Christ we'd need to do something to improve it!


I thought you would of stood and clapped the champions off.

I know! Madness!! Ah well I'll wait till the Ulster final to clap them off

Sore loser I'd say.

Not the only one from down the milltown row if all is to be believed. The band of brothers
disbanded? Could you get me an application form for the managers job?

Sho me a happy loser and I'll show you a loser!!!  Whats your CV like PJ?

I've coached my clubs Un8/Un10s right up to minor so I can sort out a squabble between children, should be enough to get me that job after last weeks antics after the game.

Antics? enlighten me?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
Haha - yeah underage good for learning how to deal with the younger generation these days but still are far cry from taking an adult team Paddy John (no disrespect especially if you have been involved with the juvenile teams in recent years who are looking like they could go on and establish themselves in div 1 with the current crop after a highly successful campaign)- sure maybe apply for their minor job, impress and who knows in a couple of years ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2016, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
Haha - yeah underage good for learning how to deal with the younger generation these days but still are far cry from taking an adult team Paddy John (no disrespect especially if you have been involved with the juvenile teams in recent years who are looking like they could go on and establish themselves in div 1 with the current crop after a highly successful campaign)- sure maybe apply for their minor job, impress and who knows in a couple of years ;)

I've been involved with enough adult teams, so I'd say I'd have a fairly good stab at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
Hear things are not well up at Milltown MR2......management gone and squabbling among players.....seems some were not happy at the inclusion of A G in the team and indeed I heard one individual shout at management in most offensive tone as to the introduction of a late sub....hate to paraphrase but went something like this 'why are u putting that fat f**k*r on for'?
Gall's were a super side but despite the protestations of BS I certainly do anticipate retirements at the Row and the future does not look bright I fear.
As I said as winners the St Gall's men were superb but I am sorry to say the Milltown men are not good at losing.............they did buck the trend at conclusion and not a single representative from those in the Blue and White, either management or player managed to make the 'long trek' to the Cargin changing room to wish them well.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2016, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
Hear things are not well up at Milltown MR2......management gone and squabbling among players.....seems some were not happy at the inclusion of A G in the team and indeed I heard one individual shout at management in most offensive tone as to the introduction of a late sub....hate to paraphrase but went something like this 'why are u putting that fat f**k*r on for'?
Gall's were a super side but despite the protestations of BS I certainly do anticipate retirements at the Row and the future does not look bright I fear.
As I said as winners the St Gall's men were superb but I am sorry to say the Milltown men are not good at losing.............they did buck the trend at conclusion and not a single representative from those in the Blue and White, either management or player managed to make the 'long trek' to the Cargin changing room to wish them well.

So a manager quits after the season is over and players have complaints about team selections then there is a problem?? Feck lads get a grip, I'd be pretty annoyed if players didn't have emotions and feel like venting!! Obviously we'd all love to keep our emotions in check and certainly not in public, but winners strive for more and second best isn't an option...

Sure your own club went into turmoil after championship final defeats... Christ yas even got rid of a manager that actually won the championship!!

As for retirements hey that's down to the players.. they know their own bodies and the commitments needed to reach the top of the tree, I couldn't and neither can anyone else speculate on this !

Again I don't know your mindset cb but I hate losing... it never sits well with me. You're probably different to me... the players shook hands after the match I presume and individually wished them well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2016, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2016, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
Haha - yeah underage good for learning how to deal with the younger generation these days but still are far cry from taking an adult team Paddy John (no disrespect especially if you have been involved with the juvenile teams in recent years who are looking like they could go on and establish themselves in div 1 with the current crop after a highly successful campaign)- sure maybe apply for their minor job, impress and who knows in a couple of years ;)

I've been involved with enough adult teams, so I'd say I'd have a fairly good stab at it.

Have you managed teams outwith your own club yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2016, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
Hear things are not well up at Milltown MR2......management gone and squabbling among players.....seems some were not happy at the inclusion of A G in the team and indeed I heard one individual shout at management in most offensive tone as to the introduction of a late sub....hate to paraphrase but went something like this 'why are u putting that fat f**k*r on for'?
Gall's were a super side but despite the protestations of BS I certainly do anticipate retirements at the Row and the future does not look bright I fear.
As I said as winners the St Gall's men were superb but I am sorry to say the Milltown men are not good at losing.............they did buck the trend at conclusion and not a single representative from those in the Blue and White, either management or player managed to make the 'long trek' to the Cargin changing room to wish them well.

So a manager quits after the season is over and players have complaints about team selections then there is a problem?? Feck lads get a grip, I'd be pretty annoyed if players didn't have emotions and feel like venting!! Obviously we'd all love to keep our emotions in check and certainly not in public, but winners strive for more and second best isn't an option...

Sure your own club went into turmoil after championship final defeats... Christ yas even got rid of a manager that actually won the championship!!

As for retirements hey that's down to the players.. they know their own bodies and the commitments needed to reach the top of the tree, I couldn't and neither can anyone else speculate on this !

Again I don't know your mindset cb but I hate losing... it never sits well with me. You're probably different to me... the players shook hands after the match I presume and individually wished them well?
'turmoil' after final defeats MR2.....don't think so.....Cargin have certainly endured more than their fair share of gut wrenching championship defeats and draconian measures imposed to curtail, but hey back we came.
As I said prior to the final the measure of the Milltown men would be just how they would react to a defeat if such became a reality.
Gall's have been super champions and a credit to the county but i am sorry to say poor losers.......possibly they are not accustomed to defeat and remains to be seen how they proceed from here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2016, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2016, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
Hear things are not well up at Milltown MR2......management gone and squabbling among players.....seems some were not happy at the inclusion of A G in the team and indeed I heard one individual shout at management in most offensive tone as to the introduction of a late sub....hate to paraphrase but went something like this 'why are u putting that fat f**k*r on for'?
Gall's were a super side but despite the protestations of BS I certainly do anticipate retirements at the Row and the future does not look bright I fear.
As I said as winners the St Gall's men were superb but I am sorry to say the Milltown men are not good at losing.............they did buck the trend at conclusion and not a single representative from those in the Blue and White, either management or player managed to make the 'long trek' to the Cargin changing room to wish them well.

So a manager quits after the season is over and players have complaints about team selections then there is a problem?? Feck lads get a grip, I'd be pretty annoyed if players didn't have emotions and feel like venting!! Obviously we'd all love to keep our emotions in check and certainly not in public, but winners strive for more and second best isn't an option...

Sure your own club went into turmoil after championship final defeats... Christ yas even got rid of a manager that actually won the championship!!

As for retirements hey that's down to the players.. they know their own bodies and the commitments needed to reach the top of the tree, I couldn't and neither can anyone else speculate on this !

Again I don't know your mindset cb but I hate losing... it never sits well with me. You're probably different to me... the players shook hands after the match I presume and individually wished them well?
'turmoil' after final defeats MR2.....don't think so.....Cargin have certainly endured more than their fair share of gut wrenching championship defeats and draconian measures imposed to curtail, but hey back we came.
As I said prior to the final the measure of the Milltown men would be just how they would react to a defeat if such became a reality.
Gall's have been super champions and a credit to the county but i am sorry to say poor losers.......possibly they are not accustomed to defeat and remains to be seen how they proceed from here.

I fail to see your point here but I'll humour you once more... You beat us in Casement first round many years ago, JC was the manager and you's let him go and failed to win it for many years after causing a rift withing the club... but after that loss to yourselves we reacted to that defeat by winning Ulster again and then going on to win the All Ireland club final on St Patrick's day...

So when it comes to reacting to defeat the clubs has a history of dusting itself down and going at it again, as its been the case since our first Uter club title back in 82...

It remains to be seen how good Cargin actually are on the national stage, if they are happy enough to win Antrim then they will do just fine  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Sure Cargin may not be prepared for the National or even the Provincial stage but at present they are most certainly top of the pile on the domestic front.......  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Sure Cargin may not be prepared for the National or even the Provincial stage but at present they are most certainly top of the pile on the domestic front.......  :)

Have I answered your post regarding coming back from losing and winning, not domestically not just in the province but nationally??

So that's all Cargin are settling for?? Surely they are that good after beating us to believe they can achieve more??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2016, 10:21:50 PM
Just back from Ahoghill where Dunloy defeated St Brigids to complete the minor hurling and football double. Think there was 5 points in it at the end. Good sporting contest with some great players on view from both teams. A good advert for juvenile football in Antrim.

That concludes the domestic football year with all 4 championships heading to the South West for the very first time. 


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 21, 2016, 10:50:58 PM
Fair play to Dunloy - best team on the night & played a good brand of football.  St Brigids went too defensive and never really got going as a unit. I've seen them play a lot better this year - but needed to be more attack minded.  Dunloy lads looked that half yard quicker in thought & action.  They'll give the Ulster championship a good rattle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 21, 2016, 10:56:11 PM
Would Dunloy not classify as North Antrim Bannside rather that South West? Never sure about that one. Some achievement to do the double. Super example of having a vision, building it (literally) and reaping the rewards.


Why the constant stirring up of sh1t Country Bumpkin?! Enjoy your win, enjoy the Ulster run but why tarnish it. Have no clue of the specifics as to Galls not taking defeat well but you sure as hell aren't acting very well in victory...on here anyway! If you are the kingpins of domestic football (clearly Antrim too small these days) why would a poor wee club like St Galls and their tantrums annoy you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 22, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
Some good football, but thought prior to game it would have been closer. Naomh Brid were never really in despite the final score line. Dunloy v impressive. The corner forward, #13 kicked some wonderful frees - in fact I don't think he missed a free all night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 22, 2016, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Sure Cargin may not be prepared for the National or even the Provincial stage but at present they are most certainly top of the pile on the domestic front.......  :)

I'm even getting fed up with your comments.
Leave mr2 and st galls alone, take your sad "winning" comments elsewhere please.

Ps yer man brennans recent comments are probably the only championship teamtalk st galls will need for next year  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 22, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
Some good football, but thought prior to game it would have been closer. Naomh Brid were never really in despite the final score line. Dunloy v impressive. The corner forward, #13 kicked some wonderful frees - in fact I don't think he missed a free all night.

That was Seaan Elliott, he's an U16 player as well. Has won his second minor hurling championship this year as well. A very classy dual player.

Was a good game to watch last night and one I don't think we looked like losing. A bit of history for the club in winning county minor A hurling & football and B camogie as well. A historic do Blue and a unique treble that's prob never been done before.

I also have to praise St Brigids as well. A great young side and a very sporting one at that. Not one dirty tackle from either side, only tough football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2016, 10:49:34 AM
The conditions on the night help to make it the game that it was. Very purposeful entertaining brand of football from our boys I thought and it benefited hugely by a much improved defensive will when we didn't have the ball. Going forward we were great to watch. Every man was trusted and got the ball if he was in a better position which made us difficult to work with and we created the more opportunities over the hour and came out deserved winner on the night.
Even with having a leaning toward the small ball, the 39 year wait made this the perfect way to finish the season. A special night for all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 22, 2016, 11:31:14 AM
Didn't realise Sean Elliott was still under 16. What a prospect! He took a massive clothesline hit one time that just in front of me and I was convinced it was game over for him. He stepped up and put the free from 50 yards straight over the bar as if he had been doing it all his life.

Dunloy team were a joy to watch last night. They should give a decent account of themselves in the St Paul's tournament.

Whilst Dunloy were the better team on the night, St Brigids didn't let themselves down. Despite being seven points down at one stage they brought it back to two, but a long range effort from Keelan Molloy somehow slipped past the Brigids keeper (floodlights might not have helped) and all of a sudden the lead was back to five.

And near the end Joe Finnegan got a clean punch to a high ball and it took a fantastic finger tips save from the Dunloy keeper Frankie Cochrane to turn the ball over the bar. Those two instances were worth five points on the scoreboard so St Brigids can hold their heads up high too.

Just a personal opinion. I think at least five or six players on the pitch last night could develop into really classy inter county seniors in a few years time. With emphasis on the word classy. The ironic thing is at least three are probably hurlers first so that's a problem to begin with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 22, 2016, 11:35:59 AM
The fact that Sean Elliot is under 16 makes his performance even more impressive. Dunloy #8 a very strong player too. Yes the second Dunloy goal was tough on the St Brigids keeper, another U16.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2016, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 22, 2016, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Sure Cargin may not be prepared for the National or even the Provincial stage but at present they are most certainly top of the pile on the domestic front.......  :)

I'm even getting fed up with your comments.
Leave mr2 and st galls alone, take your sad "winning" comments elsewhere please.

Ps yer man brennans recent comments are probably the only championship teamtalk st galls will need for next year  ;)

I'm grand, CB has yet to reply so I'll take that  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 22, 2016, 02:12:53 PM
Poor oul MR2, taking abuse on and off the pitch eh?

Personally I think CB is well able to give a slagging out and why not? His club has just done back to back SFC titles against their biggest rivals who in the past have been no angels in giving the abuse out on the pitch.

I'm sure if MR2 was annoyed or offended by any of it he would soon let us know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2016, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 22, 2016, 02:12:53 PM
Poor oul MR2, taking abuse on and off the pitch eh?

Personally I think CB is well able to give a slagging out and why not? His club has just done back to back SFC titles against their biggest rivals who in the past have been no angels in giving the abuse out on the pitch.

I'm sure if MR2 was annoyed or offended by any of it he would soon let us know.

Sure it's all good fun, refs love a bitta banter sure, you mustn't see many of my games then ?

As for Cargin I genuinely really like the club, they were never our rivals, challengers yes but rivalry, nope.. You'd know that surely? We'd always a great relationship with the club until one of their players bounced on the head of our stalwarts!! Think the bad blood came from that, but hey I'm old enough to remember the great receptions in the Cargin club rooms after the games!  Generally pissed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2016, 07:03:40 PM
Was in Omagh last nite.............in hiding since.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 27, 2016, 01:03:25 PM
Good luck to the Aghagallon men on Sunday against the Fermanagh champions. 1/3 of Ulster is behind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2016, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 27, 2016, 01:03:25 PM
Good luck to the Aghagallon men on Sunday against the Fermanagh champions. 1/3 of Ulster is behind you.

Haha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Knock Yer Mucker In on October 27, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 01, 2016, 09:14:34 AM
Paying in or refusing to do so is most certanly not the issue MR2......but no doubt the coin colectors will be manning the gate in anticipation.
But rather the huge inconvenience imposed on those supporters with children in tow, and don't forget the participants....they are kids.....and do the organisers expect those at the games of Cargin or Johnnies origin travel onwards to Glenavy after the bus journey back to junction one?
Why were the 16 games not fixed for Saturday, and why insist on a venue which is obviously not suitable.
Having visited Dunsilly it is more than obvious that the venue, in its present state is not ready to host finals, juvenile or otherwise and the idea of busing supporters in is laughable in the extreme .......but again 'Only in Antrim'.

Busing supporters, isn't that the grand plan for dealing with crowd and car management at the new Casement park, genuinely surprised this aspect of the plan hasn't received more discussion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2016, 08:37:51 AM
i made use of it for the U16 hurling county finals a few weeks ago. was a pain in the ass if im honest sitting waiting on a bus to be taken to a match.

When we got down to the ground we noticed everyone had parked on the hard shoulder so it was pointless. Not many people availed of the bus option so next time im there i wont be bothering with it again.

Best thing they can do now is to get the rest of the parking spaces done out in the ground. They have planning for 90 spaces, that will be put to good use rather than the handful currently there at the moment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 28, 2016, 11:47:41 AM
See the very generous PP says we are 2/1 on Sunday......have winnings to speculate......well wot u think MR2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2016, 01:34:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2016, 11:47:41 AM
See the very generous PP says we are 2/1 on Sunday......have winnings to speculate......well wot u think MR2?

Tradition would say no, but a year wiser and against a tradionally poor showing from Tyrone club footballers to this competition then you might have a chance, was hoping more that a mere 2/1 to intice me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 28, 2016, 07:10:05 PM
Sorry MR2, and even though u are my financial adviser in this instance I have not taken ur advice.
I do think Cargin are a very good price indeed and money is down.
Not with the heart but the head...... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
No reason cargin can't win but from a bookies perspective when an antrim team plays a tyrone team the tyrone team is favourite all day long. They will either win or get hammered i think though could be wrong!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2016, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
No reason cargin can't win but from a bookies perspective when an antrim team plays a tyrone team the tyrone team is favourite all day long. They will either win or get hammered i think though could be wrong!
We were always favourites against Tyrone teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 29, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
Cargin's only win in Ulster was against Carrickmore.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2016, 10:09:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2016, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
No reason cargin can't win but from a bookies perspective when an antrim team plays a tyrone team the tyrone team is favourite all day long. They will either win or get hammered i think though could be wrong!
We were always favourites against Tyrone teams

Yeah but you have won the competition twice in last 10 years and won loads of games in it. An antrim team hasn't been a force in a few years though. I suspect in early noughties you'd not have been favourites against tyrone teams either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2016, 01:56:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2016, 10:09:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2016, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
No reason cargin can't win but from a bookies perspective when an antrim team plays a tyrone team the tyrone team is favourite all day long. They will either win or get hammered i think though could be wrong!
We were always favourites against Tyrone teams

Yeah but you have won the competition twice in last 10 years and won loads of games in it. An antrim team hasn't been a force in a few years though. I suspect in early noughties you'd not have been favourites against tyrone teams either.

We met Ardboe one time, shower of dirty feckers!! Kids even stoned the bus!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 29, 2016, 03:15:12 PM
Think u lost to Desi Ryan's Ardboe that time MR2.......have Gall's ever beaten a Tyrone team in Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2016, 03:45:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2016, 03:15:12 PM
Think u lost to Desi Ryan's Ardboe that time MR2.......have Gall's ever beaten a Tyrone team in Ulster?

Carrickmore
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2016, 02:49:15 PM
Hmmm. This hasn't started well.

2-1 to 0-2. Big battle now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2016, 06:48:43 PM
CB missing?? Would like to hear his take on the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 30, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2016, 04:01:05 PM
Aghagallon bt Kinawley

Young Branagan was superb. Mcgeeney will be making a call
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2016, 09:19:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2016, 06:48:43 PM
CB missing?? Would like to hear his take on the game
Not missing MR2 .....still here, we were awful and i have no explanation as to who only a few in the green and white approached par.....and if indeed Cargin really are as bad as the result does suggest does it tell a sad tale on Antrim.
You can bet ur last pound that come Jan/ Feb 2017 they will be back on the training ground getting ready to retain......do u anticipate anything other than this my friend... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2016, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2016, 09:19:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2016, 06:48:43 PM
CB missing?? Would like to hear his take on the game
Not missing MR2 .....still here, we were awful and i have no explanation as to who only a few in the green and white approached par.....and if indeed Cargin really are as bad as the result does suggest does it tell a sad tale on Antrim.
You can bet ur last pound that come Jan/ Feb 2017 they will be back on the training ground getting ready to retain......do u anticipate anything other than this my friend... ;)

I think they will and fair play to Cargin, as you say the standard has dropped since we were competing in Ulster, how does that reflect? Beating an aging Galls team and getting stuffed in the first round is certainly not progress. Are Cargin happy enough to retain Antrim or push on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2016, 10:07:59 PM
Cargin are more than happy to claim Antrim titles MR2 but indeed they would love to make progress in Ulster. But the enigma is that they stood toe to toe with Cross last year for a long ways and until they lost big Gerard Mc Cann, and were reduced in number  as well as a distinct lack of experience cost in the latter stages.
Perhaps JB comments in the I N post championship, as to lack of competition in Antrim did come across as disrespectful may well have a grain of truth within.....dunno.
In any event, and I am not being arrogant I can see Cargin dominating for a few years and as I
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2016, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2016, 10:11:31 PM
Or maybe Cross weren't great either?
maybe not MR2 but were good enough to win Ulster....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2016, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: referee on October 30, 2016, 10:38:07 PM
Cb the problem with cargin I think is that they keep playing magil and although most antrim teams cant cope with him physically,the stronger players ie Mc clean st galls and smarter footballers ie kc can cope wifh him because he obviously has no workrate or fitness,its time to give maybe m kelly a run
MM was Cargin's best on view against Cross last year.................but will pass ur views on to JB......and then beat a hasty retreat :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2016, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2016, 10:07:59 PM
Cargin are more than happy to claim Antrim titles MR2 but indeed they would love to make progress in Ulster. But the enigma is that they stood toe to toe with Cross last year for a long ways and until they lost big Gerard Mc Cann, and were reduced in number  as well as a distinct lack of experience cost in the latter stages.
Perhaps JB comments in the I N post championship, as to lack of competition in Antrim did come across as disrespectful may well have a grain of truth within.....dunno.
In any event, and I am not being arrogant I can see Cargin dominating for a few years and as I

Well if they are more than happy to settle for Antrim titles that's poor form! Would have thought JB had bigger ambitions for Cargin. As for standing toe to toe with Cross, that's an exaggerated opinion.

You've basically said that we don't do well in Ulster anymore cause other teams are crap ! Brilliant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 31, 2016, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
What age is Magill? Cargin wouldn't be a young team either.

Agreed. Best of a poor Antrim at minute. Many of the team are over 30. JB'S quote about Cargin being too good for Antrim is cringe worthy.  They are in Co. Antrim, end of.

Disappointed they didn't win today but not surprised. Killyclogher were young, hungry and fit as butcher's dogs.

Cargin didn't have the smarts or belief today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 31, 2016, 08:26:31 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 31, 2016, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
What age is Magill? Cargin wouldn't be a young team either.

Agreed. Best of a poor Antrim at minute. Many of the team are over 30. JB'S quote about Cargin being too good for Antrim is cringe worthy.  They are in Co. Antrim, end of.

Disappointed they didn't win today but not surprised. Killyclogher were young, hungry and fit as butcher's dogs.

Cargin didn't have the smarts or belief today
Have a good look within my friend, the Antrim senior championship has gone to Milltown or Toome (on occasions), and nowhere else in a generation (1998)........even the unwanted league trophy has found lodging in Toome year after year only straying a few times in the past 30 years or so.
Sure some can search for solace and make suggestion than within the Cargin team many over the top and 'over 30'  with four, MM M Mc C, TS and K C  ready for retirement .....??
I  only ask which team in Antrim if not a revitalised Gall's looks ready to unseat Cargin ......and i do note that most of those snipers care not to let us know their origins......MR2 is most certainly at ease to make qualified comment although he does seem to enjoy the odd 'snipe' here and there.
Lot of begrudgers out there but Cargin are dominant.....won the lot in division one this year senior and reserve, have facilities second to none......please let me know how or when ur club, (not MR2), will gain succession....... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 31, 2016, 08:30:44 AM
I don't know - over the last 20 yrs + Cargin, while continually being one of the top sides in the County, have continually underachieved for me whether it be falling early in Ulster or failing to lay much of a glove on St. Galls for a decade or so despite appearing to be close enough to them.  Poor mentality maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2016, 09:04:40 AM
There is no sniping at all, the odd dig but I've great admiration for Cargin. But settling for Antrim is wrong, having no competition in Antrim (having been taken to a replay) is not an excuse but a failing of management in not preparing the team.

I refereed many a challenge game against teams from Down, Tyrone, Derry, in the the lead up to our club championship, training was also timed to peak around the club semi or final period, so the lads were prepared physically and mentally ready to have a craic at Ulster...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2016, 09:12:48 AM
Well done to Aghagallon! Through to the next round of Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 31, 2016, 09:26:00 AM
Fair play to Aghagallon. Only Antrim team to win on the Ulster series.

Hopefully the whole county will get behind them now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 31, 2016, 09:36:11 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 30, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 30, 2016, 04:01:05 PM
Aghagallon bt Kinawley

Young Branagan was superb. Mcgeeney will be making a call

;D  Leave it out Mickey!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2016, 09:36:24 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 31, 2016, 09:26:00 AM
Fair play to Aghagallon. Only Antrim team to win on the Ulster series.

Hopefully the whole county will get behind them now.

Why are there ones in the county not behind them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 31, 2016, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 31, 2016, 09:26:00 AM
Fair play to Aghagallon. Only Antrim team to win on the Ulster series.

Hopefully the whole county will get behind them now.

With a potential "home" game in the semis they should go well. Hopefully get a double header in Armagh or newry with Kilcoo and lough shore compatriots Maghery.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 31, 2016, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 31, 2016, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 31, 2016, 09:26:00 AM
Fair play to Aghagallon. Only Antrim team to win on the Ulster series.

Hopefully the whole county will get behind them now.

With a potential "home" game in the semis they should go well. Hopefully get a double header in Armagh or newry with Kilcoo and lough shore compatriots Maghery.

If it's a double header with Kilcoo there's potential to be at least 16 Brannigans on the pitch!   :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 31, 2016, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 31, 2016, 11:42:35 AM

If it's a double header with Kilcoo there's potential to be at least 16 Brannigans on the pitch!   :D

Would that Brannagan lad be a brother of Sean? He was some baller for the county minors back in the day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2016, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 31, 2016, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 31, 2016, 11:42:35 AM

If it's a double header with Kilcoo there's potential to be at least 16 Brannigans on the pitch!   :D

Would that Brannagan lad be a brother of Sean? He was some baller for the county minors back in the day

Pat and Sean are brothers. There is 11 in the family! And they're cousins of the Kilcoo Branagans.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2016, 11:26:18 PM
I'll take Portglenone to get within a beagals gowl of you next year CB and definitely chin ya at least once in the next two years. How's that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 01, 2016, 12:56:11 PM
Aghagallon big advantage playing at home in the semi final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2016, 01:12:36 PM
Bannside - Do you think new manager Jude is the missing link to get Casements over the line in the championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2016, 11:26:18 PM
I'll take Portglenone to get within a beagals gowl of you next year CB and definitely chin ya at least once in the next two years. How's that.
Think you are on the oul jungle juice BS....unclear as to just what are u suggesting.....bearing in mind a 'beagles gowl' can be heard a long ways off in and around the flat lands of Toome.....do u mean ur boys will get within range of Cargin in 2017 and be able to beat us in the following year?
In such event just what would that prove.......be bold and state u will win a senior championship or is getting the better of Cargin the elusive prize?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2016, 02:31:46 PM
We are pleased to have acquired the services of Jude Donnelly for the next two seasons and yes I fully expect us to kick on noticeably.  I won't be do bold as to say we will win a championship...but believe me that is the target. Its up to the players to make their own statement on the pitch and they know that last year was a middling effort.

CB said a month ago that we weren't within a beagles gowl of Cargin....and he is right...but I think we will start closing the gap sometime soon.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2016, 03:37:39 PM
Jude is a very good coach and has worked very hard in keeping Lavey competitive in Derry but the highlight of his term would probably be beating Slaughtneil in the championship in 2015 when there was a backdoor in place. Would Casements not have pushed the boat out and brought in a championship winning manager to use his winning experience to,as you have said, push on to challenge Cargin. How long do you think you have with
this group of players before it could fritter away like the last good group of players from Casements
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
I'd love to know One Club which manager you might like to recommend. Judes best achievement was training and coaching a team to an inch of their lives when Lavey kicked away a two point lead to concede a goal in thd last minute to Ballinderry in the Derry cship of 2013. John Brennan and Henry Downey were on the line but to me there was a lot of Judes imput on that effort. Shamrocks went on to win the final.

Time will tell how things pan out but we have a good age profile now and a new pitch etc and a bit of genuine optimism. I suppose lots of clubs will be saying that too at this time of the year lol.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
I suppose this shows the difference in the outlook of different people when it is viewed that a prospective manger's biggest achievement is being part of a management backroom team that were beaten in a game rather than being the manager of a team that defeated the team that would go on to be county champions through the backdoor system - I suppose there is a scenario now when Casements meet Cargin of the "master v the pupil" . Its great to be home for a few days to see all the banter and aspirations around as clubs chase managers for the new 2017 season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
All harmless banter as you say One Life. Under 21 championship weekend ahead and domestic tasty fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Nothing about JB's inability to push Cargin forward??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2016, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Nothing about JB's inability to push Cargin forward??

He is maybe missing Henry and Jude on the line with him ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oneclubonelife on November 01, 2016, 08:25:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
All harmless banter as you say One Life. Under 21 championship weekend ahead and domestic tasty fixtures.

No prob Bannside. How new pitch coming along and will you be able to play on it next season or will it need a year to mature
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2016, 08:35:47 PM
New pitch is due to host it's first game next summer OC. Complete with superb new floodlights which are top of the range.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Nothing about JB's inability to push Cargin forward??
Quite unfair my friend JB is keen to lead but I fear the Cargin team failed to follow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 01, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Nothing about JB's inability to push Cargin forward??
Quite unfair my friend JB is keen to lead but I fear the Cargin team failed to follow.

I'm agreeing with you, JB's inability to push Cargin is down to Cargin players... that's two years indiscipline has cost you at the same stage.  If you ever want to get further than Antrim then consistency competing at Ulster is a must.... you defo have it in yas but for whatever reason you don't, seems possibly a lack of belief or content with winning Antrim which will sells you short
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on November 02, 2016, 12:15:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2016, 02:31:46 PM
We are pleased to have acquired the services of Jude Donnelly for the next two seasons and yes I fully expect us to kick on noticeably.  I won't be do bold as to say we will win a championship...but believe me that is the target. Its up to the players to make their own statement on the pitch and they know that last year was a middling effort.

CB said a month ago that we weren't within a beagles gowl of Cargin....and he is right...but I think we will start closing the gap sometime soon.

Now there is ambition biting you in the bum 😂🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2016, 07:35:41 AM
Talking about ambition Shawshank isn't it time the Pearses delivered. Those good St Paul's tournament winners you have (and you're back again this year) need to start delivering a John Mc Laughlin to Kilrea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2016, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2016, 08:35:47 PM
New pitch is due to host it's first game next summer OC. Complete with superb new floodlights which are top of the range.

Good to see as its badly needed for yourselves. Been over with our camogs a few times for matches and had to wait till training was over before we could get the games started lol

Whats the plans for the main pitch? i see there was alot of ground works done behind the goals, are use intending to do something there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2016, 10:14:29 AM
A major revamp of new pitch in the pipeline DR starting with new fence and dimension adjustment to existing pitch. Scoreboards and a general tidy up (tarmacing) as well. Other stuff too planned over various phases. Will be well worth it.

Knowing your club has enough men and women of the spirit to get off their backsides and go door to door all over the province for thd guts of a year is pleasing. Not easy but doable as other clubs before us can testify.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 02, 2016, 12:24:45 PM
Great to see  Portglenones facilities looking so well.  Its a testament to the vision and the volunteers around the club.

As to catching Cargin, I fear it would be Cargin falling rather than Portglenone improving that would lessen the gap.  Great facilities doesn't guarantee success, you still need the raw materials and I doubt Portglenone have a senior championship (or anywhere close to one) in the next ten years.

Jude D is a great fella, and looks like a good coach but you may be over egging the pudding slightly in guaranteeing his success.  Surely (and with the greatest respect), a coach as highly thought of in Derry, currently managing a high profile team like Lavey would be more in demand in Derry if he was the coach you thought he was.  Don't take offence as its not meant to be that way, but going to Portglenone sounds like a backward step in his managerial career rather than say a Loup, Ballinascreen, Magherafelt, Glenullin, Dungiven, Ballinderry, Newbridge etc etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2016, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2016, 10:14:29 AM
A major revamp of new pitch in the pipeline DR starting with new fence and dimension adjustment to existing pitch. Scoreboards and a general tidy up (tarmacing) as well. Other stuff too planned over various phases. Will be well worth it.

Knowing your club has enough men and women of the spirit to get off their backsides and go door to door all over the province for thd guts of a year is pleasing. Not easy but doable as other clubs before us can testify.

Good to hear. been over at your pitch quite a bit over the past years with the camogiers so it will be good to see the final works done and get a run out on the new pitch. The people behind the fundraising should be proud of themselves as they have travelled serious miles over Ireland to get the money in. Theres a few of the tickets in our house as well.

Goes to show that with a vision and people wanting to do all it takes it can be achieved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 02, 2016, 04:20:05 PM
Bannside here not everyones that happy with ur new management team?also u need more than a new pitch to win the chamionship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 02, 2016, 05:38:15 PM
Cracking first post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2016, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 02, 2016, 04:20:05 PM
Bannside here not everyones that happy with ur new management team?also u need more than a new pitch to win the chamionship

Rumour mill in full flight chap?

Maybe need more than a new pitch for a championship to be won but every little helps the club and mentality around it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2016, 09:29:18 PM
First point. I didn't say we were going to win a championship. Please point out where I said that. I said that's the target. That's a completely different thing. Lots of clubs will have that as a target but therrs no hsrm in that. Worse if you didnt! I said we hope to get closer to the county champions and hopefully chin them at least once in the next few years.  But go ahead those without the ability to interpret properly what I said and jump to your own conclusions. And yes Galer. A new pitch won't win anyone a championship.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 02, 2016, 09:35:46 PM
We have a couple of pitches and floodlighting for a while as well as 2,500 sq metres astro turf, and at times demand is huge......but hey the main component is the abilities of the players and more importantly their commitment to the cause
As unbiased as I can be I cannot forsee Casement's passing Cargin in the next few years.......St Gall's remain the threat in my humble opinion and have been impressed with Aghagallon but reserve judgement until I see just how they cope with life in with the big boys in the first division.
But akin to BS my heart possibly rules the head at times. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 02, 2016, 09:42:46 PM
Who has won the last few minor / U21 football championships?  I see Dunloy won minor this year, has there been a dominant team at underage in recent years?  Whilst not a guarantee of senior success it may give some clues as to future winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 02, 2016, 09:51:48 PM
St johns have won quite a lot before this year have they not?

Rossa and st endas too. Dunloy probably first country team in a while to win minor?

Cargin seemed to have dropped down to b in a lot of underage but have picked up again recently. E.g. Under 16 this year. St brigids maybe will get stronger too but i think rugby could lose them a few very good players.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 02, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 02, 2016, 05:38:15 PM
Cracking first post.

Must be from Aghagallon stirring the pot from over the county boundary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2016, 10:06:34 PM
Four or five teams NAG have won at under twenty one level, with Lamh Dhearg and St Johns probably the most consistent. No one has completely dominated it so if that is a predictor a few teams will like what they have coming through. It's keeping them at it is the challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2016, 10:11:40 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on November 02, 2016, 09:42:46 PM
Who has won the last few minor / U21 football championships?  I see Dunloy won minor this year, has there been a dominant team at underage in recent years?  Whilst not a guarantee of senior success it may give some clues as to future winners.

When was the last time Cargin won minor? Or St Galls?? No indication at all to be fair.. its all about stringing together a bunch of committed players with a great spirit and a decent coach and manager plus committed helpers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 02, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
So pick a st galls team that won a championship over the last ten years or so and there will be a lot of county underage medals between them. Cargin probably too though maybe less so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2016, 11:19:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
So pick a st galls team that won a championship over the last ten years or so and there will be a lot of county underage medals between them. Cargin probably too though maybe less so.

Lads we're bringing up recent championship... we have won minor for a long time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2016, 08:33:30 AM
clearly its us that will be the next force, i mean we won the minors and we beat Cargan last night in the U21B championship.

we may get used to being here now! :D lol

In all seriousness Creggan have a decent set up there and a really strong minor team coming through. They were the strongest team we faced this year at minor and had some cracking young players in their ranks that day. But its hard to see past Cargan for the next few years at least, they are the best team in the county and its well deserved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 03, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Look im not saying they wont challenge but i would look to someone who has won a chamionship b4 at any level and yes they might nip one but i think lamh dhearg is closer and as 4 half-armagh-gallon they have no chance bottom tier of div1 or top of div2 for a long time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 03, 2016, 09:52:38 AM
Reading that has given me a migraine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2016, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 03, 2016, 09:52:38 AM
Reading that has given me a migraine.

Schools are off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
Hoganstand is good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2016, 01:43:57 PM
Personally I am glad that PG1 are making the strides that they, the same way that Ahoghill, Glenravel, Ballymena all have done in making their facilities better. They are a decent club with decent members.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 03, 2016, 02:29:04 PM
Talking of clubs improving there facilities, I see on Social media that Sarsfields have got the green light for new changing rooms. Long overdue.

Fair play to them, that the new 4G pitch last year that my own club trained on last year and then this. Big steps forward.

With the terracing and seating, they wont be far off hosting games in 2017. Parking may be an issue though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 03, 2016, 03:00:03 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on November 03, 2016, 02:29:04 PM
Talking of clubs improving there facilities, I see on Social media that Sarsfields have got the green light for new changing rooms. Long overdue.

Fair play to them, that the new 4G pitch last year that my own club trained on last year and then this. Big steps forward.

With the terracing and seating, they wont be far off hosting games in 2017. Parking may be an issue though

Whats the pitch like at Sarsfields these days?  I remember a lot of years ago it was like a bog if there had been rain - assume that has been addressed at this stage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 03, 2016, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 03, 2016, 03:00:03 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on November 03, 2016, 02:29:04 PM
Talking of clubs improving there facilities, I see on Social media that Sarsfields have got the green light for new changing rooms. Long overdue.

Fair play to them, that the new 4G pitch last year that my own club trained on last year and then this. Big steps forward.

With the terracing and seating, they wont be far off hosting games in 2017. Parking may be an issue though

Whats the pitch like at Sarsfields these days?  I remember a lot of years ago it was like a bog if there had been rain - assume that has been addressed at this stage?

It'd still be as heavy as ever outside of the good Summer months. Always find the grass to be too long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 03, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 03, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Look im not saying they wont challenge but i would look to someone who has won a chamionship b4 at any level and yes they might nip one but i think lamh dhearg is closer and as 4 half-armagh-gallon they have no chance bottom tier of div1 or top of div2 for a long time

Have to correct you there m8. Only 1/3 Armagh. 1/3 Antrim and 1/3 down. But 100% scenes caused
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 04, 2016, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 03, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Look im not saying they wont challenge but i would look to someone who has won a chamionship b4 at any level and yes they might nip one but i think lamh dhearg is closer and as 4 half-armagh-gallon they have no chance bottom tier of div1 or top of div2 for a long time

Aghagallon have a lot of potential but aside from realising the potential of individual players they also have to keep them - a lot of good players have not played beyond early 20's down the years for one reason or another.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2016, 01:20:07 PM
Have been impressed with what I have seen of Aghagallon this year, but will reserve judgement to next year.......lot harder to impress in the top grade ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 04, 2016, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 04, 2016, 01:20:07 PM
Have been impressed with what I have seen of Aghagallon this year, but will reserve judgement to next year.......lot harder to impress in the top grade ???

That is a fair stance - and despite Aghagallon tearing up Div 2 last year I am well aware that with league reconstruction it was probably a weaker division than it has been for some time.  I think they will have had a good season if they maintain their Div 1 status and I think they will.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
Aghagallons Davy Mc Alernon has been a huge waste to the county. The whole way from U -15 to U -21 I would have been involved in teams that David was part of and he was always one of the best in a talented year group that included Mick Mc Cann, Nibs, Paddy Cunningham Andy Mc Clean etc. Then he fisappeared abroad for half a dozen years. Still Aghagallon main man and I'd say could step up to the Saffron jersey anytime still.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 05, 2016, 10:36:21 PM
Tomorrow's u 21 match between St John's and Aghagallon should be interesting. Any pre match predictions?

Portglenone came from six down to beat Creggan by a point today. We now play the winners of tomorrows game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 06, 2016, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 05, 2016, 10:36:21 PM
Tomorrow's u 21 match between St John's and Aghagallon should be interesting. Any pre match predictions?

Portglenone came from six down to beat Creggan by a point today. We now play the winners of tomorrows game.

Depends how many got lucky at the aghagallon camogs fundraiser. Mightn't be fit for much today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2016, 04:51:45 PM
Aghagallon by 2pts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 06, 2016, 06:01:45 PM
Was at the pg1 creggan game yesterday and although pg1 rode their luck at times (their keeper was excellent) the future looks bright in portglenone. The feeling leaving the ground yesterday was that the game was effectively the final so I would fully expect pg1 to finish the job which bodes well for their future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2016, 06:39:58 PM
It was a nail biter alright Mick. Not much between two decent enough sides. It's wide open now I'd say any of the last five have a chance. St Endas must be favourites though after their easy win over LD today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 07, 2016, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2016, 06:39:58 PM
It was a nail biter alright Mick. Not much between two decent enough sides. It's wide open now I'd say any of the last five have a chance. St Endas must be favourites though after their easy win over LD today.

Aghagallon favourites for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 07, 2016, 10:13:16 AM
Very low scoring match yesterday at Aghagallon.

St.John's missed a good few frees but Aghagallon always seemed to keep them at bay.  Didn't really get out of second gear either, particularly in the second half.

Still, it'll take a good team to beat us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 07, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
Heard creggan where robbed .was madden managing creggan,image that didnt go down to well st endas looked very good against ld thought they would have been a match 4 them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 07, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
Johnny mcBride 4 cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2016, 12:40:11 PM
And John Brennan back to Lavey according to the rumour mill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 07, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 07, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
Johnny mcBride 4 cargin?

Frank Dawson?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 07, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Why are clubs paying these guys?
Is football in Antrim really that competitive that a half decent coach couldnt get that Cargin team to win the championship?

Not like they are setting the world alight in Ulster anyway so I just dont get the need for paying good money to mercenaries.

Not singling Cargin out as other clubs are doing the same, but to me it is completely baffling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
seems to be a football thing to be fair, most other clubs in ulster do it so its seen as the done thing to do.

The talent that cargan have they could of won the championship without paying a manager. Doesn't make sense to me as the manager is working with the talent that has come through the clubs underage system. Its the people who do that work to get them there is the ones who clubs should look too more so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 02:25:21 PM
Couldnt get them to win a match in Ulster so time to move on, its his second time there and he's 'domminated' a poor Antrim championship (as only 2 clubs can muster up a win)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 07, 2016, 05:24:48 PM
Big presumption saying Cargin 'paid' JB.  But I would say if they recruit outside the parish next time, the next manager wont be coming for the thrill it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 07, 2016, 05:45:59 PM
Dont think jb was getting anything more than40 a week.some merc.but there has been plenty tried and failed in cargin between jc and jb.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 06:58:05 PM
Jeez JB is away to Gall's I hear......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Just can't see that CB!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
That is what I hear BS....and seems the Mc Cann brothers are transferring to Creggan, JC is set to go to Portglenone, and Tony Scullion is for Ballinderry. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 07, 2016, 07:25:11 PM
Selling them to cover the management expenses?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2016, 07:28:39 PM
Lol. Any truth JB for Lavey though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
We couldn't afford the travel expenses, plus we like to win the odd Ulster Championship and have an odd day out at Croke  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
We couldn't afford the travel expenses, plus we like to win the odd Ulster Championship and have an odd day out at Croke  ;)
Think it may well be a while b4 u are back in Croker my friend....with or without JB at the helm ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
We couldn't afford the travel expenses, plus we like to win the odd Ulster Championship and have an odd day out at Croke  ;)
Think it may well be a while b4 u are back in Croker my friend....with or without JB at the helm ???

When you get there I'll be down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 08, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
That is what I hear BS....and seems the Mc Cann brothers are transferring to Creggan, JC is set to go to Portglenone, and Tony Scullion is for Ballinderry. ;)

I'd love to see Piddlers face if that ever happened. Potential for a good April fools joke

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 08, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
That is what I hear BS....and seems the Mc Cann brothers are transferring to Creggan, JC is set to go to Portglenone, and Tony Scullion is for Ballinderry. ;)

I'd love to see Piddlers face if that ever happened. Potential for a good April fools joke
Seems Mrs Piddler was influential in that ine :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 08, 2016, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 03, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 03, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Look im not saying they wont challenge but i would look to someone who has won a chamionship b4 at any level and yes they might nip one but i think lamh dhearg is closer and as 4 half-armagh-gallon they have no chance bottom tier of div1 or top of div2 for a long time

Have to correct you there m8. Only 1/3 Armagh. 1/3 Antrim and 1/3 down. But 100% scenes caused

If you wanted to go from Aghagallon to Armagh but not through Down, then it's either a boat trip or Lap the Lough...   8)

PS Slaughtneil on for 2 matches on St Paddy's Day...  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2016, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 08, 2016, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 03, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 03, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Look im not saying they wont challenge but i would look to someone who has won a chamionship b4 at any level and yes they might nip one but i think lamh dhearg is closer and as 4 half-armagh-gallon they have no chance bottom tier of div1 or top of div2 for a long time

Have to correct you there m8. Only 1/3 Armagh. 1/3 Antrim and 1/3 down. But 100% scenes caused

If you wanted to go from Aghagallon to Armagh but not through Down, then it's either a boat trip or Lap the Lough...   8)

PS Slaughtneil on for 2 matches on St Paddy's Day...  ;)

only few games away from that, would be something else, well warmed up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 08, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 08, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
That is what I hear BS....and seems the Mc Cann brothers are transferring to Creggan, JC is set to go to Portglenone, and Tony Scullion is for Ballinderry. ;)

I'd love to see Piddlers face if that ever happened. Potential for a good April fools joke
Seems Mrs Piddler was influential in that ine :)
:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 12, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
Not a word on here or the Antrim website about Aghagallon's Ulster semi final v Monaghan champions donaghmoyne.

Anyone here heading to newry tomorrow to support Antrim's last remaining representative in Ulster ?

Bookies are expecting a facile victory for the Monaghan men, but hopefully the Antrim side will be able to make a game of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2016, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 12, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
Not a word on here or the Antrim website about Aghagallon's Ulster semi final v Monaghan champions donaghmoyne.

Anyone here heading to newry tomorrow to support Antrim's last remaining representative in Ulster ?

Bookies are expecting a facile victory for the Monaghan men, but hopefully the Antrim side will be able to make a game of it.
The St Mary's men have impressed me this year and it will not surprise me at all if they take another step forward into a Provincial final ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2016, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2016, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 12, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
Not a word on here or the Antrim website about Aghagallon's Ulster semi final v Monaghan champions donaghmoyne.

Anyone here heading to newry tomorrow to support Antrim's last remaining representative in Ulster ?

Bookies are expecting a facile victory for the Monaghan men, but hopefully the Antrim side will be able to make a game of it.
The St Mary's men have impressed me this year and it will not surprise me at all if they take another step forward into a Provincial final ;)

Yeah ref'd them mid season v Endas great game high intensity about it, plenty to like about them, hopefully they do themselves and parish proud
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Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
Aghagallon beat by a point. Let 6 point lead go with about 15 minutes to go. Donaghmoyne got a free 20m out right in front of the goals at the very end. Very hard to take but a good season overall. Hopefully we can push on now like we should have years ago.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2016, 05:50:10 PM
That's unfortunate Jim, next season will be grand, should stay up
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Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2016, 05:51:08 PM
Anybody heard any rumours about convention? Leagues staying the same?
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Post by: Gold on November 13, 2016, 06:43:59 PM
Hard luck St Mary's.  Antrim abu
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Post by: outinfront on November 13, 2016, 07:50:33 PM
Hard luck aghagallon. I know the feeling! Donaghmoyne never give in.
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Post by: The Gs Man on November 14, 2016, 09:23:01 AM
One of the best matches you'll see this year.  Great game.

Think we just lacked a bit of cute hoorism.  Maybe should have took a few bookings for the team in the last ten minutes when Donaghmoyne got their tails up.  Ah well.  Can't fault the lads.  A great year for the Parish! 

And still an U21 semi final to look forward to!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2016, 10:44:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 13, 2016, 05:51:08 PM
Anybody heard any rumours about convention? Leagues staying the same?
Sure the Paddies finished bottom again and changebis more than likely ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 15, 2016, 06:03:26 PM
Any new managerial developments alls very quiet at the minute
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Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2016, 07:46:36 PM
JB gone from cargin or so it says a few pages back. Portglenone have a new man in place. Down the divisions a Con Magee fella told me that their lad has left. McNicholl still with Rasharkin I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 16, 2016, 01:22:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 13, 2016, 05:51:08 PM
Anybody heard any rumours about convention? Leagues staying the same?

Change, of course there is, is that not good ?

County board, only two positions being fought for, is that good ?
Why do so many want to help the Ulster council and not Antrim ?

Where are all the 'big lads' who are constantly critical of the board, was this not their opportunity ?
If you don't put up, then... That would be good.

Antrim vision, without the macular.
So many questions, so few answers. That's not good.


Ps.
Great entertaining game in newry, thought both teams deserved a draw before that last free.

Pss.
What's the chances of seeing their CV or manifesto ? In the meantime, let's hear your slogans for them:

Colin Donnelly - I'm still here

Terry Reilly

Paul OBrien

Pol MacCana

Billy McLarnon

Sean Kelly - I'm everywhere

Liam McGoldrick

Bronagh Lennon

Phillip Christie

Jim Murray - I never went away

Paul Molloy

Jim McLean

Alec McQuillan

Tyrone Eastwood - I'll be back

Gerry McClory

Malachy Delargy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2016, 02:58:08 PM
Think when the dust has settled after convention Bogieman Antrim will have its strongest management committee in a long time. That's my belief.

I've got a couple of tickets for the Clash of the Saffrons at the Devonish on Saturday night. A lot of work has gone into this fundraising event for Antrim senior Football programme and Frank Fitz deserves a lot of credit for going out on his own steam with a few others and getting sponsorship from many businesses. Looking forward to a great nights crack which will hopefully lift the negativity from the tail end of last year and kick start a bit of momentum for a decent season ahead.
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Post by: country bumpkin on November 16, 2016, 03:21:14 PM
Been around and about for a long time BS and I do admire ur optimism but I do remain as a sceptic :'(
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Post by: bannside on November 16, 2016, 06:57:47 PM
Except CB in all things Erin's Own of course....lol.
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Post by: JimStynes on November 16, 2016, 10:04:24 PM
Bannside is the most optimistic man on the board by a mile
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Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2016, 10:06:48 PM
Admirable optimism to be fair. Refreshing in antrim as not too much of it about these days!

Mr i see refs doing the boxing. You not fancy it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2016, 10:06:48 PM
Admirable optimism to be fair. Refreshing in antrim as not too much of it about these days!

Mr i see refs doing the boxing. You not fancy it??

Done it at our club one a few years ago !! It's not fun or taken light hearted I'll tell ya that !! Fair fecks to the lads stepping into the ring! Never again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2016, 10:06:48 PM
Admirable optimism to be fair. Refreshing in antrim as not too much of it about these days!

Mr i see refs doing the boxing. You not fancy it??

Be like the royal rumble to get a slap at him.. CB is first in line lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2016, 11:41:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2016, 10:06:48 PM
Admirable optimism to be fair. Refreshing in antrim as not too much of it about these days!

Mr i see refs doing the boxing. You not fancy it??

Be like the royal rumble  to get a slap at him.. CB is first in line lol

Fixtures out every week during league... no slaps yet! People talk a lot ya know  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 16, 2016, 06:57:47 PM
Except CB in all things Erin's Own of course....lol.
Fail to comprehend BS.....please clarify. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
went to our U21B game last night up in Ballymena. Its nights like that in November you really ask what in under god are playing that competition at this stage of the year?

We were badly weakened with some fellas working, injuries and to be honest the older minors were out on their feet after playing in the ulster hurling final 3 days before it. Ballymena looked much fresher than we did all over the field but fair play to them and good luck in the semi final.

Im actually glad were out of the competition because if we won we had another game and less rest and recovery before having to play Burren in the Ulster Football Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2016, 09:59:47 AM
I'm saying CB that your scepticism does not extend to Cargin footballers who you expect to remain at the top table for the foreseeable future, building on their record breaking season this year which you have alluded to numerous times.

Nothing wrong with this by the way. Just saying like. Has JMB been appointed to your hotseat for next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
went to our U21B game last night up in Ballymena. Its nights like that in November you really ask what in under god are playing that competition at this stage of the year?

We were badly weakened with some fellas working, injuries and to be honest the older minors were out on their feet after playing in the ulster hurling final 3 days before it. Ballymena looked much fresher than we did all over the field but fair play to them and good luck in the semi final.

Im actually glad were out of the competition because if we won we had another game and less rest and recovery before having to play Burren in the Ulster Football Championship.

I think that is the story of the U21 Championship these days - from what I can see teams struggle to not only get their best players out but in some cases even to field 15 players.  Throw into the mix a lot of players have not really being playing competitively since the summer, the terrible conditions and general lack of enthusiasm and you wonder what is the point.  Yes there will be one or two teams that go all out for it but I would say your story is that of the majority of clubs.  Part of the reason I fancy Aghagallon for the A competition is because they have been training and playing together competitively right up until last weekend in the Senior - yes not all U21 players have saw game time but at the same time there has been a high intensity training focus in the club right into the U21 competition which will probably be telling over the next few weeks.  Personally I would like to see it revert back to the way it was 10 or more years ago when it was played off in the spring/summer with a lot of teams going into it wanting to give it a real good go.

The other thing is the A and B sides - I actually like this because in theory it gives players between minor and senior at least 2 championship games but again would this not be of more benefit earlier in the year rather than at the tail end when some boys have seen very little football all year and even if they do show up well there is no step on into the senior teams who have quit for the year months ago.  On the B side is it not generally the way that good teams who get knocked out in a tough prelim round tie that tend to go on and dominate it - would you reckon looking at Ballymena they fall into this category - certainly from what I am hearing last nights game was being viewed as the B final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 17, 2016, 11:05:11 AM
I take it the winner of the A side of the competition goes on to represent the County?

Or is there a play-off with the winners of B?

I'm not getting presumptuous or anything, I just happened to have a conversation about this earlier and didn't know what way it worked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2016, 11:58:49 AM
i rem playing in the U21 football cship and it was during the season and was taken seriously by every club entering into it. Now its just chucked into the season to fit.

The hurling was dusted along time ago and it was an entertaining final played at a good time of the year. Its not as if our footballers are in the championship long enough for it to be in the way and the senior cship isnt played till later in the season. The most of the clubs in it are not dual so that shouldnt be a factor of hurling getting in the way.

we could of fielded a far stronger side but lads were carrying knocks from the hurling, ones working, college all star hurling trials are on etc it meant we had lads on the pitch who hadnt kicked a ball all year. Its a pity because we could of made a good fist at it had it been earlier in the season.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
went to our U21B game last night up in Ballymena. Its nights like that in November you really ask what in under god are playing that competition at this stage of the year?

We were badly weakened with some fellas working, injuries and to be honest the older minors were out on their feet after playing in the ulster hurling final 3 days before it. Ballymena looked much fresher than we did all over the field but fair play to them and good luck in the semi final.

Im actually glad were out of the competition because if we won we had another game and less rest and recovery before having to play Burren in the Ulster Football Championship.

I think that is the story of the U21 Championship these days - from what I can see teams struggle to not only get their best players out but in some cases even to field 15 players.  Throw into the mix a lot of players have not really being playing competitively since the summer, the terrible conditions and general lack of enthusiasm and you wonder what is the point.  Yes there will be one or two teams that go all out for it but I would say your story is that of the majority of clubs.  Part of the reason I fancy Aghagallon for the A competition is because they have been training and playing together competitively right up until last weekend in the Senior - yes not all U21 players have saw game time but at the same time there has been a high intensity training focus in the club right into the U21 competition which will probably be telling over the next few weeks.  Personally I would like to see it revert back to the way it was 10 or more years ago when it was played off in the spring/summer with a lot of teams going into it wanting to give it a real good go.

The other thing is the A and B sides - I actually like this because in theory it gives players between minor and senior at least 2 championship games but again would this not be of more benefit earlier in the year rather than at the tail end when some boys have seen very little football all year and even if they do show up well there is no step on into the senior teams who have quit for the year months ago.  On the B side is it not generally the way that good teams who get knocked out in a tough prelim round tie that tend to go on and dominate it - would you reckon looking at Ballymena they fall into this category - certainly from what I am hearing last nights game was being viewed as the B final.

I would say the other teams involved might have something to say about that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2016, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 09:59:47 AM
I'm saying CB that your scepticism does not extend to Cargin footballers who you expect to remain at the top table for the foreseeable future, building on their record breaking season this year which you have alluded to numerous times.

Nothing wrong with this by the way. Just saying like. Has JMB been appointed to your hotseat for next year?
Said nothing of the sort BS as being from Cargin we have learned to take one day, one season at a time.
Cargin folk are nothing if not optimistic as to future within the green and white as life has taught this lesson.
See nothing to suggest 'better times ahead' in the Saffron'. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
went to our U21B game last night up in Ballymena. Its nights like that in November you really ask what in under god are playing that competition at this stage of the year?

We were badly weakened with some fellas working, injuries and to be honest the older minors were out on their feet after playing in the ulster hurling final 3 days before it. Ballymena looked much fresher than we did all over the field but fair play to them and good luck in the semi final.

Im actually glad were out of the competition because if we won we had another game and less rest and recovery before having to play Burren in the Ulster Football Championship.

I think that is the story of the U21 Championship these days - from what I can see teams struggle to not only get their best players out but in some cases even to field 15 players.  Throw into the mix a lot of players have not really being playing competitively since the summer, the terrible conditions and general lack of enthusiasm and you wonder what is the point.  Yes there will be one or two teams that go all out for it but I would say your story is that of the majority of clubs.  Part of the reason I fancy Aghagallon for the A competition is because they have been training and playing together competitively right up until last weekend in the Senior - yes not all U21 players have saw game time but at the same time there has been a high intensity training focus in the club right into the U21 competition which will probably be telling over the next few weeks.  Personally I would like to see it revert back to the way it was 10 or more years ago when it was played off in the spring/summer with a lot of teams going into it wanting to give it a real good go.

The other thing is the A and B sides - I actually like this because in theory it gives players between minor and senior at least 2 championship games but again would this not be of more benefit earlier in the year rather than at the tail end when some boys have seen very little football all year and even if they do show up well there is no step on into the senior teams who have quit for the year months ago.  On the B side is it not generally the way that good teams who get knocked out in a tough prelim round tie that tend to go on and dominate it - would you reckon looking at Ballymena they fall into this category - certainly from what I am hearing last nights game was being viewed as the B final.

I would say the other teams involved might have something to say about that.

Of course they will and realistically it is hard to judge the strength of any club at this level - their minor teams of three years ago are not a guide either as a lot changes in that time but certainly the view I was given was that Dunloy and Ballymena were the two best teams in that side and Ballymena seem to have dispatched Dunloy handy enough which would suggest they have a pretty strong shout - or else my sources are not as up speed as they think they are  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
Don't be going now and getting all modest on us CB! If you are being 100% honest you can't see anyone knocking Cargin off their perch for a few years at least. But that's ok with me because you see have earned the right to assume that. It's up to the others now to make up ground on the champions and close that gap.

So CB, who do you think will be the top 4 teams next year in Antrim and in what order?  Any word on Johnny Mc Bride. Has he been ratified yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:06:48 PM
G's  man the A winners represent the county in the Creggan tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
Don't be going now and getting all modest on us CB! If you are being 100% honest you can't see anyone knocking Cargin off their perch for a few years at least. But that's ok with me because you see have earned the right to assume that. It's up to the others now to make up ground on the champions and close that gap.

So CB, who do you think will be the top 4 teams next year in Antrim and in what order?  Any word on Johnny Mc Bride. Has he been ratified yet?

Top 4 teams in my opinion.

1. Cargin
2. St Galls
3. Lamh Dhearg
4. Portglenone


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
I see Rossa gave St Endas a fair oul thumping in their U21 A match last weekend.

That's a great win for Rossa considering the fact that the St Endas men had 6 county under twenty ones playing against Derry earlier this year!! And Rossa had none.

Anyone with an inside track on how this can happen?  Were St Endas vastly understrength? Were Rossa just too strong? Something not adding up here at all.......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:17:43 PM
Kevin Madden won't like that Paddyjohn lol. Were Creggan not second in the league and took the champions to a replay...and won the O Cahan Cup too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2016, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
I see Rossa gave St Endas a fair oul thumping in their U21 A match last weekend.

That's a great win for Rossa considering the fact that the St Endas men had 6 county under twenty ones playing against Derry earlier this year!! And Rossa had none.

Anyone with an inside track on how this can happen?  Were St Endas vastly understrength? Were Rossa just too strong? Something not adding up here at all.......
Think u'll find that St Paul's were on the receiving end in that one BS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:26:16 PM
That makes sense now CB. Couldn't get my head round that at all. St Endas at full strength must be favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2016, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
went to our U21B game last night up in Ballymena. Its nights like that in November you really ask what in under god are playing that competition at this stage of the year?

We were badly weakened with some fellas working, injuries and to be honest the older minors were out on their feet after playing in the ulster hurling final 3 days before it. Ballymena looked much fresher than we did all over the field but fair play to them and good luck in the semi final.

Im actually glad were out of the competition because if we won we had another game and less rest and recovery before having to play Burren in the Ulster Football Championship.

I think that is the story of the U21 Championship these days - from what I can see teams struggle to not only get their best players out but in some cases even to field 15 players.  Throw into the mix a lot of players have not really being playing competitively since the summer, the terrible conditions and general lack of enthusiasm and you wonder what is the point.  Yes there will be one or two teams that go all out for it but I would say your story is that of the majority of clubs.  Part of the reason I fancy Aghagallon for the A competition is because they have been training and playing together competitively right up until last weekend in the Senior - yes not all U21 players have saw game time but at the same time there has been a high intensity training focus in the club right into the U21 competition which will probably be telling over the next few weeks.  Personally I would like to see it revert back to the way it was 10 or more years ago when it was played off in the spring/summer with a lot of teams going into it wanting to give it a real good go.

The other thing is the A and B sides - I actually like this because in theory it gives players between minor and senior at least 2 championship games but again would this not be of more benefit earlier in the year rather than at the tail end when some boys have seen very little football all year and even if they do show up well there is no step on into the senior teams who have quit for the year months ago.  On the B side is it not generally the way that good teams who get knocked out in a tough prelim round tie that tend to go on and dominate it - would you reckon looking at Ballymena they fall into this category - certainly from what I am hearing last nights game was being viewed as the B final.

I would say the other teams involved might have something to say about that.

Of course they will and realistically it is hard to judge the strength of any club at this level - their minor teams of three years ago are not a guide either as a lot changes in that time but certainly the view I was given was that Dunloy and Ballymena were the two best teams in that side and Ballymena seem to have dispatched Dunloy handy enough which would suggest they have a pretty strong shout - or else my sources are not as up speed as they think they are  ???

if we had a full team we would of won that game last night if im honest. that and the fact they played a tough ulster hurling final 3 days earlier against Dungiven.

It is a bit of a blessing we are out as they needed a break if they are expected to compete in the St Pauls Ulster tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 02:51:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:17:43 PM
Kevin Madden won't like that Paddyjohn lol. Were Creggan not second in the league and took the champions to a replay...and won the O Cahan Cup too!

In the past BS... Trust me, you know it makes sense!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
Don't be going now and getting all modest on us CB! If you are being 100% honest you can't see anyone knocking Cargin off their perch for a few years at least. But that's ok with me because you see have earned the right to assume that. It's up to the others now to make up ground on the champions and close that gap.

So CB, who do you think will be the top 4 teams next year in Antrim and in what order?  Any word on Johnny Mc Bride. Has he been ratified yet?

Top 4 teams in my opinion.

1. Cargin
2. St Galls
3. Lamh Dhearg
4. Portglenone

No Creggan?  St Johns must be ready to kick on also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
I see Rossa gave St Endas a fair oul thumping in their U21 A match last weekend.

That's a great win for Rossa considering the fact that the St Endas men had 6 county under twenty ones playing against Derry earlier this year!! And Rossa had none.

Anyone with an inside track on how this can happen?  Were St Endas vastly understrength? Were Rossa just too strong? Something not adding up here at all.......

Or perhaps St Endas are overrated - folk were saying at the start of this year they were heading straight to Div 1 - granted in what was a weaker Div 2 than usual they gave it a good shot but also around this time last year folk had them winning the U21s or certainly being closer to St Johns than anyone.  Maybe just loads of good PR coming out from High Town.  County underage teams never a full measure either - some clubs are more committed than others on that front including mentors which will always lead to more than a little bias.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2016, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
I see Rossa gave St Endas a fair oul thumping in their U21 A match last weekend.

That's a great win for Rossa considering the fact that the St Endas men had 6 county under twenty ones playing against Derry earlier this year!! And Rossa had none.

Anyone with an inside track on how this can happen?  Were St Endas vastly understrength? Were Rossa just too strong? Something not adding up here at all.......
Think u'll find that St Paul's were on the receiving end in that one BS.

Ha - time to delete my last comment!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2016, 02:26:16 PM
That makes sense now CB. Couldn't get my head round that at all. St Endas at full strength must be favourites.

I still say Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2016, 03:48:52 PM
The under-21 football championship, after a period in which the competition had been dormant was revitalised in the early 80s as I recall.
At such juncture this was sited early in the season and in fact finished around Easter and was completed in expediency with no postponements on good terrain to prove very successful.
As to why this format was changed is anybody's guess..........  but hey the under-21 hurling seems not to have any problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 04:45:05 PM
Yeah I heard it said that exams were an issue so do hurlers not do exams plus when I was in that age group I was at Uni and the tournament was played in late spring and I don't recall any issues around exams.

I suppose the first step to change if the appetite is there is for a motipon to be brought forward to be debated and voted on but as things stand it seems to becoming more of an afterthought right down to player level. Or maybe it is just symptomatic of the young ones nowadays  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 04:46:43 PM
And would add that there was a stage when the competition was in a good way of going it was very much second only to the senior championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 04:53:30 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 17, 2016, 04:46:43 PM
And would add that there was a stage when the competition was in a good way of going it was very much second only to the senior championship.

Though in the interest's of balance it may have been the case at that time that more teams competed in the Senior Championship meaning the lower tiers were of a lower standard. I'm sure someone can fill in the pieces but I know our reserves won the Junior Championship, possibly in the 90's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2016, 04:59:39 PM
Provincial a big incentive in junior / intermediate now too. We haven't had any winners but our intermediate winners tend to be competitive at least. Reserves have won the junior(and the intermediate in hurling) but it's not really fair in my view - should be first teams only.

The u21 used to be great and generally, though not always, ran off before the senior. Seems to have slipped down the calendar year on year which is a pity. We are not a successful enough county to have a bottlenecked calendar fixture wise, though dual may have an impact I guess, so no reason it should be done the way it's done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2016, 08:23:40 AM
Yeah I do prefer the idea that no reserve teams playing Intermediate or Junior - gives more clubs something to aim for.

Having a look there at this weekends fixtures and I see Moneyglass are back in and playing Antrim.  I would assume that means no final next weekend in that grade unless they are playing a couple of midweek games.  I know Ballymena and Dunloy played last Wed night but on the theme of the unsuitability of the time of the year it makes an even bigger mockery if you are asking teams to play evenings at this time of the year when we could be getting into sub zero temperatures etc.  Not so sure when clubs were installing floodlight that the idea would be to play on late autumn/winter evenings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
When was the last time a championship hurling game at any level was fixed 'under lights' in our county?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2016, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
When was the last time a championship hurling game at any level was fixed 'under lights' in our county?

Not sure what the answer to that is.  I have enjoyed watching some football games under the lights, Ballymena in particular have great floodlights but at this time of the year if football has to be played it really needs to be played on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon and even at that you are hoping for the best but generally knowing the quality on offer will suffer because of the conditions among other things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 18, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
When was the last time a championship hurling game at any level was fixed 'under lights' in our county?
2012 County final between L'Giel & Dunloy at Casement was played under lights. Dunloy played St Galls & L'giel in QF replay & Sf matches as well. Minor C'Chip finals too.
An intermediate championship match between Cloughmills & Sarsfields played in Ballycastle a couple of years ago..

No venue in Antrim with good enough lights at minute IMO for hosting C'ship Hurling matches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 18, 2016, 02:27:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 18, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
When was the last time a championship hurling game at any level was fixed 'under lights' in our county?
2012 County final between L'Giel & Dunloy at Casement was played under lights. Dunloy played St Galls & L'giel in QF replay & Sf matches as well. Minor C'Chip finals too.
An intermediate championship match between Cloughmills & Sarsfields played in Ballycastle a couple of years ago..

No venue in Antrim with good enough lights at minute IMO for hosting C'ship Hurling matches


Ballycastle or Ahoghill aren't to bad for hurling under.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 18, 2016, 03:00:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 18, 2016, 02:27:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 18, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
When was the last time a championship hurling game at any level was fixed 'under lights' in our county?
2012 County final between L'Giel & Dunloy at Casement was played under lights. Dunloy played St Galls & L'giel in QF replay & Sf matches as well. Minor C'Chip finals too.
An intermediate championship match between Cloughmills & Sarsfields played in Ballycastle a couple of years ago..

No venue in Antrim with good enough lights at minute IMO for hosting C'ship Hurling matches


Ballycastle or Ahoghill aren't to bad for hurling under.
Yeah and the new pitch at Ballymena too but still wouldn't want to play a Championship match there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 03:21:19 PM
Football is fine under lights, done a match under lights at Ballmena and it was good..... Hurling is not meant to be played under lights at all, Casement was very good but most players will tell ya that they'd much prefer natural light for hurling...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 18, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
Seriously lads u 21 comp is more important than intermediate or junior champ as it second only to senior champ.it could b better timed as boys away at uni down south or england arent always available.As regards bs attitude to the county board does he not realise that this is a hurling board and dont give a rats ass abt fball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2016, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 18, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
Seriously lads u 21 comp is more important than intermediate or junior champ as it second only to senior champ.it could b better timed as boys away at uni down south or england arent always available.As regards bs attitude to the county board does he not realise that this is a hurling board and dont give a rats ass abt fball
Sure that has been quite apparent for some time Galer.....................football and footballers are the poor relations....and the middle finger has been extended to our under-21 footballers for a long time.
Our county are as a laughing stock and despite the positivity of solid GAA people, like BS we are on the road to nowhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 18, 2016, 07:34:04 PM
Is there big money coming from Croke Park for Antrim? Heard something about Croke Park pumping money into Antrim schools and underage development. Something similar to what they did in Dublin. Probably a load of shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
We are great at feeling sorry for ourselves but what do we do about it? Yes the hurlers budget has for years dwarfed the football one, and there is a clear perception that juvenile hurlers get better gear, better away trips etc. In fact it would be interesting to hear the breakdown of those stats now, because I think a few years ago the hurling budget was almost double that of football. But why does this happen? Because no one from the football end is creating proper checks and balances. So we can all take a bit of the blame for that! But 100% we do need a few changes to a few structures and I'm not being antagonistic when I say that. We need a football sub committee to oversee some important aspects such as management criteria, budget equity and lots of other things.

And within football itself there are even less checks and balances. Here's a question?

Who or when was the last time any manager from South West Antrim had the honour of managing their county team....at any level.....at minor, under 21 or senior?

Knock yourselves out with that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2016, 10:48:05 PM
Not a bad time to ask that question actually in a year country teams won every championship. Senior Cargin, Senior Reserve Cargin, Intermediate Aghagallon, Junior Glenravel, Minor Dunloy. With under 21 still to be decided.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2016, 11:04:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
We are great at feeling sorry for ourselves but what do we do about it? Yes the hurlers budget has for years dwarfed the football one, and there is a clear perception that juvenile hurlers get better gear, better away trips etc. In fact it would be interesting to hear the breakdown of those stats now, because I think a few years ago the hurling budget was almost double that of football. But why does this happen? Because no one from the football end is creating proper checks and balances. So we can all take a bit of the blame for that! But 100% we do need a few changes to a few structures and I'm not being antagonistic when I say that. We need a football sub committee to oversee some important aspects such as management criteria, budget equity and lots of other things.

And within football itself there are even less checks and balances. Here's a question?

Who or when was the last time any manager from South West Antrim had the honour of managing their county team....at any level.....at minor, under 21 or senior?

Knock yourselves out with that!

There have been a few since you haven't there? Are south west not reasonably involved in minor setup??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:47:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2016, 10:48:05 PM
Not a bad time to ask that question actually in a year country teams won every championship. Senior Cargin, Senior Reserve Cargin, Intermediate Aghagallon, Junior Glenravel, Minor Dunloy. With under 21 still to be decided.

How many of those winning managers have actually been from the South West?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Belfast or Newtownabbey... nowhere else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Belfast or Newtownabbey... nowhere else

They were in the south west juvenile leagues last time I checked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Belfast or Newtownabbey... nowhere else

They were in the south west juvenile leagues last time I checked.

They are from Belfast but based on newtownabbey you know geography ok??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Belfast or Newtownabbey... nowhere else

They were in the south west juvenile leagues last time I checked.

They are from Belfast but based on newtownabbey you know geography ok??

Chasing better competition and set up was the reason for going into south west for football and north Antrim for hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 18, 2016, 11:59:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Belfast or Newtownabbey... nowhere else

They were in the south west juvenile leagues last time I checked.

They are from Belfast but based on newtownabbey you know geography ok??

Jeez Milltown he's only asking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 18, 2016, 11:59:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 18, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
Is st endas considered a south west club ?
Belfast or Newtownabbey... nowhere else

They were in the south west juvenile leagues last time I checked.

They are from Belfast but based on newtownabbey you know geography ok??

Jeez Milltown he's only asking

Sure he answered his own question ffs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2016, 08:37:02 AM
ITG, thanks at least for trying to answer my question. You say there have been a few SW managers. But no names? Yes I took under 21s for a year and did another couple after that.. but as assistant to Mickey Culbert who was the senior manager when the rule changed that the senior manager also took on responsibility for U-21s. Danny O Neill from Ahoghill had a spell as joint manager of the minors along with Fitzy for a few years.

A Glenravel man (schoolteacher) took Antrim minors when they won the Ulster championship back around 84.

But I'm thinking in 45 years (probably more) that's all I remember unless I've forgotten someone!

That's 3 age groups x 45 years =135 years.....and from that 2 years in total where someone from SW was sole manager of an Antrim county team. Where's the equity in that?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2016, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2016, 08:37:02 AM
ITG, thanks at least for trying to answer my question. You say there have been a few SW managers. But no names? Yes I took under 21s for a year and did another couple after that.. but as assistant to Mickey Culbert who was the senior manager with responsibility for U-21s. Danny O Neill from Ahoghill had a spell as joint manager of the minors along with Fitzy for a few years.

A Glenravel man (schoolteacher) took Antrim minors when they won the Ulster championship back around 84.

But I'm thinking in 45 years (probably more) that's all I remember unless I've forgotten someone!

That's 3 age groups x 45 years =135 years.....and from that 2 years in total where someone from SW was sole manager of an Antrim county team. Where's the equity in that?

Bs i tend to know south west faces from ahoghill etc but not names and they always tended to be in assistant capacity hence no names. That doesn't read well at all. It's actually something i'd love to see a wiki on but haven't the historical knowledge to put together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2016, 09:56:08 AM
As a self confessed Antrim Football fanatic ITG, unfortunately I am fairly sure those horrendous statistics are true.

I'm waiting for someone adopting the angle "Well who should we have had. Who have we missed out on" and possibly MR2 is thinking along those lines when he points out that from the winning SW c'ship clubs this year, how many had SW managers.

Plus there's no point in getting into names for others to mock or scorn and say "he wouldn't be good enough".

90% of our managers in that time were city men and sure we haven't exactly set the world on fire, have we?

Maybe I'm being opportunistic given the year SW clubs have had. Plus I dont want to create any SW v SA division as we dont need that crap. But I think the disparaging gap needs to be acknowledged and addressed going forward. The caveat being aspiring SW managers need to have the criteria to perform at that level just like I would expect city managers to have the necessary criteria as well and not rely on the nod and a wink principle that has often been the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 10:46:48 AM
Matches still go ahead today? Looks to be bad frost and fog still
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 20, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 10:46:48 AM
Matches still go ahead today? Looks to be bad frost and fog still
lovely day in Toome ML..........."God's Own Country".......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2016, 01:24:35 PM
Our lads just leaving now for Toome. Hearing great reports about Aghagallon from people who would be good judges so I hope for the best but fear the worst.

Attended the Clash Of the Saffrons fight nite in thd Devenish last night and what a really great and we'll organised night it was. Some great bouts too there wasn't much holding back!

There's an awful lot of good will out there for Fitzy and Co judging by the huge turnout. It's not too much to ask for supporters to get behind them and create a positive environment for good Antrim men who are doing their utmost to put some pride into Antrim Football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
Bad conditions in Toome today. However, aghagallon much superior team. Prob would have won by more in better conditions. Should be a good final v st endas the tournament favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2016, 04:44:18 PM
Portglenone have no complaints. Beaten by a very well drilled Aghagallon team with more than their share of quality players at this level. With many of them involved with their club intermediate team you could see their fitness and touch around the ball was excellent for the time of year. Good luck to them in thd rest of their campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 20, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
Handy win in the end and our Intermediate run definitely helped us at this level. Portglenone looked like they had a few cracking players but their tactics seemed to be to go out and try rough up Aghagallon at the start but it back fired badly. Midfielder was pulling and digging from the first whistle and eventually got himself sent off for a clear punch. A number of others at the same craic but it wasn't going to put our fellas off as they're well able to handle themselves. Conditions were crap for spectators but I am not sure what it was like for the players. You could hardly see who scored. I know very little about St. Enda's but they have been tournaments from the start so we will be up against. We are a good side as well though and it should be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 06:24:36 PM
I know in the past Aghagallon players have been generally overlooked by Antrim for one reason or another but would some of their young players not be worth a look at by the county management team now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2016, 07:07:12 PM
Yes definitely ML. At least two of todays u 21 team are already on county management radar. Possibly another few to add to that as they go....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 20, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
U21s county??will it not b all st endas players??it was last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 20, 2016, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 06:24:36 PM
I know in the past Aghagallon players have been generally overlooked by Antrim for one reason or another but would some of their young players not be worth a look at by the county management team now?

I think a mixture of being overlooked and players not having the motivation to play for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 20, 2016, 11:16:19 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
Bad conditions in Toome today. However, aghagallon much superior team. Prob would have won by more in better conditions. Should be a good final v st endas the tournament favourites.

I'd like to think Rossa will have a say in this  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2016, 08:47:52 AM
ML only one of our minors that won the county final was even on the county squad and he didnt even get any game time so walked away.

Being dual players also doesnt help esp when most are doing A levels during the year. Not easy for lads to commit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 20, 2016, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 06:24:36 PM
I know in the past Aghagallon players have been generally overlooked by Antrim for one reason or another but would some of their young players not be worth a look at by the county management team now?

I think a mixture of being overlooked and players not having the motivation to play for Antrim.

Agree - there are generally a number of reasons why the best players are not out at any given age group and apathy towards the county is one of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2016, 09:29:52 AM
71 players currently on the county minor trial squad from clubs all over the county. It's on the county website. If you know of any potential stars that arnt on it sure just get in touch with the management team or pm me with details and it will be sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 21, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
Bad conditions in Toome today. However, aghagallon much superior team. Prob would have won by more in better conditions. Should be a good final v st endas the tournament favourites.

Where you at the game Mickey?  Didn't see ye there.  Although you might have been hiding in the fog.

Great first half performance saw us through.  Another final to look forward to!

Anybody any idea when it could be played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 21, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 20, 2016, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 06:24:36 PM
I know in the past Aghagallon players have been generally overlooked by Antrim for one reason or another but would some of their young players not be worth a look at by the county management team now?

I think a mixture of being overlooked and players not having the motivation to play for Antrim.

Too busy playing for Armagh or down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 21, 2016, 09:29:52 AM
71 players currently on the county minor trial squad from clubs all over the county. It's on the county website. If you know of any potential stars that arnt on it sure just get in touch with the management team or pm me with details and it will be sorted.

Will be sorted if you can convince them to put the effort in  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2016, 10:44:25 AM
Aghagallon have sent a right few to the minors this year. I think about 6 are there at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 21, 2016, 10:48:53 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 21, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 20, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
Bad conditions in Toome today. However, aghagallon much superior team. Prob would have won by more in better conditions. Should be a good final v st endas the tournament favourites.

Where you at the game Mickey?  Didn't see ye there.  Although you might have been hiding in the fog.

Great first half performance saw us through.  Another final to look forward to!

Anybody any idea when it could be played?

Given the potential opposition probably looking at Glenavy or Corrigan - did not think Portglenone offered an awful lot yesterday and the final should certainly be a sterner test but my money still on Aghagallon.  Must remember not to wear flat bottomed shoes next day - was like a skating rink down along the far side yesterday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2016, 06:38:49 PM
The downside of St Galls being so far ahead of the field for years, matched only by Cargin at times for any meaningful competition has left Antrim Football fairly dull for quite a while. Cargin would win the league every year and St Galls the championship and everyone else was nowhere.

Looking a few years down the road from here and it should at least open up into a very competitive league and c'ship where I really struggle to see any real outstanding dominant force.

Id say a lot of clubs atm would fancy themselves to be in the hunt for silverware in 3 years time. A bit like Tyrone where there are a lot of decent clubs but possibly no outstanding ones.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 21, 2016, 07:23:20 PM
Lads aghallon arent bad but creggan won a few u21s, the johnies won several portglenone won imediate and u21 and none of these teams have hardly broken though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Ever the optimist BS......hope does indeed spring. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2016, 08:20:25 PM
Although sometimes I find Bannsides optimism hard to fathom I also find it refreshing to hear somebody speak with such passion and genuine honesty about the county. We need more like him within the clubs and county set up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2016, 10:06:10 PM
That's another pint I owe you Paddyjohn!

If you go back a few years there was literally no one as negative on here as myself. Everything seemed a mile away. I don't want to get personal but I felt the top jobs on the county were well out of some officials depth. The way CC meetings were conducted were a shambles. It smacked of jobs for the boys and let's just say thank God a few individuals decided to put their hands up and say we need to fix this mess out.

In Saturdays Irish News there was a great article from Collie Donnelly about what had been achieved and what was still to be done. It wasnt glossing anything up, just the facts. It made good reading.

A lot of the good work has been done behind the scenes. The biggest thing is the credibility the executive have restored at Ulster level or at Croke Park where their expertise as businessmen is recognised. Progress may seem slow, but it was always going to be. It will pick up the pace a bit, and I fully expect delivery on many aspects such as a football review group to match the current hurling one, and things like juvenile development, improved funding from HQ, a proactive fundraising group that will hit targets, a revitalised Club Aontroma, as well as continue to oversee the transition of Dunsilly and Casement etc.

This board arrived in the absolute nick of time and even though there will still be some minor frustrations I am certain that they will leave Antrim Gaa in a much much better place than they found it. That dosent mean we start winning provincial titles but the foundations will be in place for that to happen.

Wouldn't that be great?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 21, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Look at the buzz and crowd we had in 2009. If we could compete we could have 3/4 of that regularly. It would change us from sniping and being negative about our team to being supporters and positive like BS.

There is no reason why we cannot compete, we have 2 arms, 2 legs and 2 lungs like men from Donegal and  Tyrone do

Hopefully Casement can help our sense of esteem too. Would be great if it was like Croker or Ravenhill for the night league games...more like a show/event than just a game (as well as being a top class venue for ordinary championship games). McVeigh was right in the paper the other day...does take away from us not having a home atm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2016, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 21, 2016, 10:06:10 PM
That's another pint I owe you Paddyjohn!

If you go back a few years there was literally no one as negative on here as myself. Everything seemed a mile away. I don't want to get personal but I felt the top jobs on the county were well out of some officials depth. The way CC meetings were conducted were a shambles. It smacked of jobs for the boys and let's just say thank God a few individuals decided to put their hands up and say we need to fix this mess out.

In Saturdays Irish News there was a great article from Collie Donnelly about what had been achieved and what was still to be done. It wasnt glossing anything up, just the facts. It made good reading.

A lot of the good work has been done behind the scenes. The biggest thing is the credibility the executive have restored at Ulster level or at Croke Park where their expertise as businessmen is recognised. Progress may seem slow, but it was always going to be. It will pick up the pace a bit, and I fully expect delivery on many aspects such as a football review group to match the current hurling one, and things like juvenile development, improved funding from HQ, a proactive fundraising group that will hit targets, a revitalised Club Aontroma, as well as continue to oversee the transition of Dunsilly and Casement etc.

This board arrived in the absolute nick of time and even though there will still be some minor frustrations I am certain that they will leave Antrim Gaa in a much much better place than they found it. That dosent mean we start winning provincial titles but the foundations will be in place for that to happen.

Wouldn't that be great?

I'm serious though, it is good to see and for one it makes me think about my role within my own club. We have far to many people who like to spout on social media and on here purely to get noticed for the wrong reasons, or for self promotion.

I've doubted the board and I'll openly admit it's because what seemed to be a lack of investigation to the betting scandal at the start of the year. Hopefully whatever teething problems there was are ironed out now and we can move on so i can make the memories with my children the way my father did with me by going to Casement for county finals and having 2 county teams to be proud of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2016, 02:12:24 PM
Somebody please explain how both Antrim and Aldergrove who were fixed to meet in the under-21 grading round a couple of weeks past were then placed in the B competition ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 23, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
How come the st endas Rossa U21 semi has been postponed tonight ?

Surely there is a facility which could have been used tonight (the dub, UUJ?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 23, 2016, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 23, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
How come the st endas Rossa U21 semi has been postponed tonight ?

Surely there is a facility which could have been used tonight (the dub, UUJ?)

Celtic in the champions league is what I've been told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 23, 2016, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 23, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 23, 2016, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 23, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
How come the st endas Rossa U21 semi has been postponed tonight ?

Surely there is a facility which could have been used tonight (the dub, UUJ?)

Celtic in the champions league is what I've been told.
That must have been St Enda's request as it certainly wasn't ours.

Our request was due to Villa niteclub doing 90p drinks on a Wednesday night.

What time are you lifting me?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 24, 2016, 06:18:58 PM
According to Atowns news the county board gave st endas the option to play the game under lights midweek, which they relinquished.

Game now to be played at St Pauls on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2016, 07:39:51 PM
Where is the B final being played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
That's a big scalp HS. Having said that a lot of your players excelled a few years ago in the Paul Mc Girr tournament, as did St Endas the year before. So maybe not a massive surprise. You've got few clinkers.  Deaghlan Murphy one the Saffron watch list!

Should be a great final.  Aghagallon a well drilled outfit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 28, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
Good win HS fair play. I only follow Antrim football from a far but all the chat seemed to be about st endas so you must have a great side. Congratulations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 28, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
That's a big scalp HS. Having said that a lot of your players excelled a few years ago in the Paul Mc Girr tournament, as did St Endas the year before. So maybe not a massive surprise. You've got few clinkers.  Deaghlan Murphy one the Saffron watch list!

Should be a great final.  Aghagallon a well drilled outfit.

Should be 2 good finals. If it's a double header, hope the first gets finished...

Ps. Well done to slaughtneil, unreal

Is Rossa the only ones capable of this in Antrim ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2016, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 28, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
That's a big scalp HS. Having said that a lot of your players excelled a few years ago in the Paul Mc Girr tournament, as did St Endas the year before. So maybe not a massive surprise. You've got few clinkers.  Deaghlan Murphy one the Saffron watch list!

Should be a great final.  Aghagallon a well drilled outfit.

Should be 2 good finals. If it's a double header, hope the first gets finished...

Ps. Well done to slaughtneil, unreal

Is Rossa the only ones capable of this in Antrim ?

We got to both county finals at senior a few years  ago, lost to Cushendall in the hurling...

I'd say Rossa have a chance if they start bringing those lads wholesale onto the senior team and let them develop into senior players, obviously some experience is required from a few older players but it's defo possibility.. keeping them together in the city seems to be harder than our country brethren
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 28, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Both u 21 finals at Toome
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 28, 2016, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2016, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 28, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
That's a big scalp HS. Having said that a lot of your players excelled a few years ago in the Paul Mc Girr tournament, as did St Endas the year before. So maybe not a massive surprise. You've got few clinkers.  Deaghlan Murphy one the Saffron watch list!

Should be a great final.  Aghagallon a well drilled outfit.

Should be 2 good finals. If it's a double header, hope the first gets finished...

Ps. Well done to slaughtneil, unreal

Is Rossa the only ones capable of this in Antrim ?

We got to both county finals at senior a few years  ago, lost to Cushendall in the hurling...

Youse are missing a camogie team though.....

We won a few ladies football titles! And an Ulster title  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 12:03:13 AM

One all Ireland senior final is plenty for a club every generation...

Should the below list not include senior handball ? Maybe it needs corrected...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Donovan_Rossa_GAC_Belfast
O'Donovan Rossa GAC Belfast
CLG Ó Donnabháin Rosa Béal Feirste
Founded:   1916
County:   Antrim
Nickname:   Rossa
Colours:   Blue and Gold
Grounds:   Rossa Park
Senior Club Championships
          All Ireland   Ulster champions   Antrim champions
Football:   0   0   15
Hurling:   4   4   16

Are there any all Ireland rounders in Antrim ?

Well done cargin for making their pitch available.
hope we can see the second game this time around...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 29, 2016, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 28, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
That's a big scalp HS. Having said that a lot of your players excelled a few years ago in the Paul Mc Girr tournament, as did St Endas the year before. So maybe not a massive surprise. You've got few clinkers.  Deaghlan Murphy one the Saffron watch list!

Should be a great final.  Aghagallon a well drilled outfit.

Should be 2 good finals. If it's a double header, hope the first gets finished...


Why would the first not get finished?  I'm confused!   :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2016, 10:18:56 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 28, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2016, 07:29:44 PM
That's a big scalp HS. Having said that a lot of your players excelled a few years ago in the Paul Mc Girr tournament, as did St Endas the year before. So maybe not a massive surprise. You've got few clinkers.  Deaghlan Murphy one the Saffron watch list!

Should be a great final.  Aghagallon a well drilled outfit.

Should be 2 good finals. If it's a double header, hope the first gets finished...

Ps. Well done to slaughtneil, unreal

Is Rossa the only ones capable of this in Antrim ?

outside of the football we have won both the ulster camogie & hurling in the same year, 1994 and 2003. be a long time before we are in a senior football final  ;D

club wise, Rossa is the only club who compete at Div 1 in all 3 codes which is credit to the clubs itself.

Dunloy are Div 1 hurling & camogie - Div 2 Football
St Johns are Div 1/2 hurling (who knows) div 1 football, Div 2 Camogie
Ballycastle are Div 1 hurling & camogie, Div 3 football

a few other clubs do compete in the camogie like St Pauls (div3), rasharkin (div3), Creggan (Div2), Tir Na nOg (Div2), Ahoghill (Div3) who play all 3 codes but not at the top level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 29, 2016, 11:04:36 AM
Still say Aghagallon for U21 and possibly with something to spare.  Not surprised St Endas were beaten - a lot of good PR coming from there but you need to be able to walk the walk which they have yet to do.

As for the B final - Aldergrove will win it at a canter - good local rivalry all the same.

As such clean sweep of football honours for the Culchies this year:
Senior: Erins Own
Intermediate: St Marys
Junior: Con Magees
U21 A: St Marys
U21 B: St James
Minor: Cuchullains

We could maybe do with Croke Park extending their generosity from Dublin City to Belfast City in order to turn potential into winners.  Now I am not being controversial here - even if the City teams get back in front next year they are probably way off their top end with all things being maxed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2016, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 29, 2016, 11:04:36 AM
Still say Aghagallon for U21 and possibly with something to spare.  Not surprised St Endas were beaten - a lot of good PR coming from there but you need to be able to walk the walk which they have yet to do.

As for the B final - Aldergrove will win it at a canter - good local rivalry all the same.

As such clean sweep of football honours for the Culchies this year:
Senior: Erins Own
Intermediate: St Marys
Junior: Con Magees
U21 A: St Marys
U21 B: St James
Minor: Cuchullains

We could maybe do with Croke Park extending their generosity from Dublin City to Belfast City in order to turn potential into winners.  Now I am not being controversial here - even if the City teams get back in front next year they are probably way off their top end with all things being maxed.

People would argue that St Endas are a south west club now despite where they are located.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 29, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
Yeah I get that alright but tis Rossa that stand in the way of a clean sweep.

My point about Belfast City is a general one - given the population you would think with good investment it could be a hot bed of Gaelic games and the catalyst that Antrim County needs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
I think Aghagallon should nudge it, although it would be good for the Rossa centenary to bring some county spoils to the city.

Aldergrove by several if they keep their discipline, Glenavy by a couple if they keep theirs, there will be indiscipline...

If the u21B is being included as clean sweep, Moneyglass in minorB, Cargin in reserve cup and city slickers Gort in the reserve shield.


Hectic, are you saying that the city schools/clubs should get any Croke development money that's available ?
Should any 'city' designated money be shared with Derry too ?
Do you think it's all about money, when 'somebody' leads them by the hand ? Wonder who will do the leading, you already seem to be looking south...

A strong football argument may be to put any money into already successful structures in the southwest, and get even more success in ulster and further, and let these guys 'drive' the county on; their shoulders are already to the wheel, and weren't paid to put it there...
Ps the same hurling argument applies to north antrim.

For Antrim to be successful, south antrim needs to get its own house in order, and not look to Croke to pay them to look for the wheels. This may require a cull, and some 'joined up' thinking to plan and manage the inevitable euphemistically called 'social issues'.

All idle hands to the club pump first lads... This empowerment is an important step, there's no entitlement to being successful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
I think Aghagallon should nudge it, although it would be good for the Rossa centenary to bring some county spoils to the city.

Aldergrove by several if they keep their discipline, Glenavy by a couple if they keep theirs, there will be indiscipline...

If the u21B is being included as clean sweep, Moneyglass in minorB, Cargin in reserve cup and city slickers Gort in the reserve shield.


Hectic, are you saying that the city schools/clubs should get any Croke development money that's available ?
Should any 'city' designated money be shared with Derry too ?
Do you think it's all about money, when 'somebody' leads them by the hand ? Wonder who will do the leading, you already seem to be looking south...

A strong football argument may be to put any money into already successful structures in the southwest, and get even more success in ulster and further, and let these guys 'drive' the county on; their shoulders are already to the wheel, and weren't paid to put it there...
Ps the same hurling argument applies to north antrim.

For Antrim to be successful, south antrim needs to get its own house in order, and not look to Croke to pay them to look for the wheels. This may require a cull, and some 'joined up' thinking to plan and manage the inevitable euphemistically called 'social issues'.

All idle hands to the club pump first lads... This empowerment is an important step, there's no entitlement to being successful.

Successful for one year and you're getting on like it's always been happening 😂! Were we getting our act together when winning ulsters all Irelands and 12 odd titles in 13 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
I think Aghagallon should nudge it, although it would be good for the Rossa centenary to bring some county spoils to the city.

Aldergrove by several if they keep their discipline, Glenavy by a couple if they keep theirs, there will be indiscipline...

If the u21B is being included as clean sweep, Moneyglass in minorB, Cargin in reserve cup and city slickers Gort in the reserve shield.


Hectic, are you saying that the city schools/clubs should get any Croke development money that's available ?
Should any 'city' designated money be shared with Derry too ?
Do you think it's all about money, when 'somebody' leads them by the hand ? Wonder who will do the leading, you already seem to be looking south...

A strong football argument may be to put any money into already successful structures in the southwest, and get even more success in ulster and further, and let these guys 'drive' the county on; their shoulders are already to the wheel, and weren't paid to put it there...
Ps the same hurling argument applies to north antrim.

For Antrim to be successful, south antrim needs to get its own house in order, and not look to Croke to pay them to look for the wheels. This may require a cull, and some 'joined up' thinking to plan and manage the inevitable euphemistically called 'social issues'.

All idle hands to the club pump first lads... This empowerment is an important step, there's no entitlement to being successful.

Successful for one year and you're getting on like it's always been happening 😂! Were we getting our act together when winning ulsters all Irelands and 12 odd titles in 13 years?

How many Ulsters?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2016, 10:32:58 PM
Didn't realise you'd won ulster or all irelands at your club mr. Good job you reminded us ???

Truthfully the gaa in belfast is struggling and we all know it. That's not to take away from the good work a lot of guys do and not a slight on belfast just reality. St galls good team masked it a bit.

Rossa might come up a bit now but over the last few years good underage teams seem to have failed to transition to good senior teams - e.g. Lamh dhearg minor team and st johns in either code.

Apart from dublin it is happening a bit in irish city areas. Cork isn't what it was either and sure look at derry city. Galway fading a bit in football too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2016, 11:26:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
I think Aghagallon should nudge it, although it would be good for the Rossa centenary to bring some county spoils to the city.

Aldergrove by several if they keep their discipline, Glenavy by a couple if they keep theirs, there will be indiscipline...

If the u21B is being included as clean sweep, Moneyglass in minorB, Cargin in reserve cup and city slickers Gort in the reserve shield.


Hectic, are you saying that the city schools/clubs should get any Croke development money that's available ?
Should any 'city' designated money be shared with Derry too ?
Do you think it's all about money, when 'somebody' leads them by the hand ? Wonder who will do the leading, you already seem to be looking south...

A strong football argument may be to put any money into already successful structures in the southwest, and get even more success in ulster and further, and let these guys 'drive' the county on; their shoulders are already to the wheel, and weren't paid to put it there...
Ps the same hurling argument applies to north antrim.

For Antrim to be successful, south antrim needs to get its own house in order, and not look to Croke to pay them to look for the wheels. This may require a cull, and some 'joined up' thinking to plan and manage the inevitable euphemistically called 'social issues'.

All idle hands to the club pump first lads... This empowerment is an important step, there's no entitlement to being successful.

Successful for one year and you're getting on like it's always been happening 😂! Were we getting our act together when winning ulsters all Irelands and 12 odd titles in 13 years?

How many Ulsters?

Just the 3 as a club but sure, the Johnnies have an All Ireland final appearnce also   

These things run in cycles, always have, ourselves Rossa and the Johnnies have won a fair few chamionships at football, as for underage stuff  I'd say the Belfast clubs have won their fair share if not more... I don't think the panic button is being hit in Belfast just yet but as tommy has said some of the citys aint doing well at club level

I can only really talk about my own club and the hard work being done by committee and coaches to realise we wont be too far away in the near future....

Lamhs, Rossa and of course the Johnnies have produced seriously good juvenile teams but what ever happens between under 21 to senior needs looking at...

Country teams have the same problem, kids moving away for work or college, losing lads through drink and women!!

I'd be happy with a structured coaching (at juvenile level) system that encouraged coaches to work to a plan instead of their own 'plan' which makes things worse in my view/experience.. should we get a joined up approach we'd actually compete wit most counties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2016, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
I think Aghagallon should nudge it, although it would be good for the Rossa centenary to bring some county spoils to the city.

Aldergrove by several if they keep their discipline, Glenavy by a couple if they keep theirs, there will be indiscipline...

If the u21B is being included as clean sweep, Moneyglass in minorB, Cargin in reserve cup and city slickers Gort in the reserve shield.


Hectic, are you saying that the city schools/clubs should get any Croke development money that's available ?
Should any 'city' designated money be shared with Derry too ?
Do you think it's all about money, when 'somebody' leads them by the hand ? Wonder who will do the leading, you already seem to be looking south...

A strong football argument may be to put any money into already successful structures in the southwest, and get even more success in ulster and further, and let these guys 'drive' the county on; their shoulders are already to the wheel, and weren't paid to put it there...
Ps the same hurling argument applies to north antrim.

For Antrim to be successful, south antrim needs to get its own house in order, and not look to Croke to pay them to look for the wheels. This may require a cull, and some 'joined up' thinking to plan and manage the inevitable euphemistically called 'social issues'.

All idle hands to the club pump first lads... This empowerment is an important step, there's no entitlement to being successful.

No I am simply saying if there is a policy driving funding to Dublin City and all the associated justification for it then the same should apply to Belfast city.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2016, 08:49:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2016, 11:26:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: bogieman on November 29, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
I think Aghagallon should nudge it, although it would be good for the Rossa centenary to bring some county spoils to the city.

Aldergrove by several if they keep their discipline, Glenavy by a couple if they keep theirs, there will be indiscipline...

If the u21B is being included as clean sweep, Moneyglass in minorB, Cargin in reserve cup and city slickers Gort in the reserve shield.


Hectic, are you saying that the city schools/clubs should get any Croke development money that's available ?
Should any 'city' designated money be shared with Derry too ?
Do you think it's all about money, when 'somebody' leads them by the hand ? Wonder who will do the leading, you already seem to be looking south...

A strong football argument may be to put any money into already successful structures in the southwest, and get even more success in ulster and further, and let these guys 'drive' the county on; their shoulders are already to the wheel, and weren't paid to put it there...
Ps the same hurling argument applies to north antrim.

For Antrim to be successful, south antrim needs to get its own house in order, and not look to Croke to pay them to look for the wheels. This may require a cull, and some 'joined up' thinking to plan and manage the inevitable euphemistically called 'social issues'.

All idle hands to the club pump first lads... This empowerment is an important step, there's no entitlement to being successful.

Successful for one year and you're getting on like it's always been happening 😂! Were we getting our act together when winning ulsters all Irelands and 12 odd titles in 13 years?

How many Ulsters?

Just the 3 as a club but sure, the Johnnies have an All Ireland final appearnce also   

These things run in cycles, always have, ourselves Rossa and the Johnnies have won a fair few chamionships at football, as for underage stuff  I'd say the Belfast clubs have won their fair share if not more... I don't think the panic button is being hit in Belfast just yet but as tommy has said some of the citys aint doing well at club level

I can only really talk about my own club and the hard work being done by committee and coaches to realise we wont be too far away in the near future....

Lamhs, Rossa and of course the Johnnies have produced seriously good juvenile teams but what ever happens between under 21 to senior needs looking at...

Country teams have the same problem, kids moving away for work or college, losing lads through drink and women!!

I'd be happy with a structured coaching (at juvenile level) system that encouraged coaches to work to a plan instead of their own 'plan' which makes things worse in my view/experience.. should we get a joined up approach we'd actually compete wit most counties

I think that is all fair enough but when you are looking at potential population is a very big factor but at the same time that potential needs to be realised and harnessed - that is where I believe the city clubs could do with some help.  Yes they may win their fair share but with their numbers and the correct structures etc they should be nearly unstoppable.  The reality is that many country clubs have the GAA as central to their communities and their communities focus and this often compensates having for smaller populations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 30, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
your last sentence hetic prob sums it up - in country clubs the GAA is central to their communities.

I know in our village its everything, there is nothing that can bring people out like the GAA. Most people are involved in some form whether it be playing, coaching, kids playing, supporting, donating etc. Its the life of the area. The kids are in the academy even last night training and playing gaelic football.

Father PJ McCamphill once said that you look at where the pitch is based, beside the primary school and the chapel, all the 3 main points for people in the village. i think that sums up why the GAA club is so strong in our area, its embedded in it from a young age and remains the focal point in the area for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 02:48:04 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 30, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
your last sentence hetic prob sums it up - in country clubs the GAA is central to their communities.

I know in our village its everything, there is nothing that can bring people out like the GAA. Most people are involved in some form whether it be playing, coaching, kids playing, supporting, donating etc. Its the life of the area. The kids are in the academy even last night training and playing gaelic football.

Father PJ McCamphill once said that you look at where the pitch is based, beside the primary school and the chapel, all the 3 main points for people in the village. i think that sums up why the GAA club is so strong in our area, its embedded in it from a young age and remains the focal point in the area for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 02:59:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 30, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
your last sentence hetic prob sums it up - in country clubs the GAA is central to their communities.

I know in our village its everything, there is nothing that can bring people out like the GAA. Most people are involved in some form whether it be playing, coaching, kids playing, supporting, donating etc. Its the life of the area. The kids are in the academy even last night training and playing gaelic football.

Father PJ McCamphill once said that you look at where the pitch is based, beside the primary school and the chapel, all the 3 main points for people in the village. i think that sums up why the GAA club is so strong in our area, its embedded in it from a young age and remains the focal point in the area for the rest of your life.
True indeed Hectic MR2 does miss the point completely football is indeed central in Cargin and the structure and utter loyalty to the club has ensured the survival and indeed development of Erin's Own for almost a century.
Belfast based clubs are not based on such and the go anywhere mentality which exists does not bind any young lad to 'his club' from the first day he picks up a ball dilutes loyalty and indeed such may well be a factor when the Saffron is worn.
West Belfast is one of the most densely populated areas in Western Europe and with such as a recruitment area which is huge indeed in comparison to their country cousins teams from Cargin, Dunloy, Loughgile etc should rarely get a look in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2016, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 02:59:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 30, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
your last sentence hetic prob sums it up - in country clubs the GAA is central to their communities.

I know in our village its everything, there is nothing that can bring people out like the GAA. Most people are involved in some form whether it be playing, coaching, kids playing, supporting, donating etc. Its the life of the area. The kids are in the academy even last night training and playing gaelic football.

Father PJ McCamphill once said that you look at where the pitch is based, beside the primary school and the chapel, all the 3 main points for people in the village. i think that sums up why the GAA club is so strong in our area, its embedded in it from a young age and remains the focal point in the area for the rest of your life.
True indeed Hectic MR2 does miss the point completely football is indeed central in Cargin and the structure and utter loyalty to the club has ensured the survival and indeed development of Erin's Own for almost a century.
Belfast based clubs are not based on such and the go anywhere mentality which exists does not bind any young lad to 'his club' from the first day he picks up a ball dilutes loyalty and indeed such may well be a factor when the Saffron is worn.
West Belfast is one of the most densely populated areas in Western Europe and with such as a recruitment area which is huge indeed in comparison to their country cousins teams from Cargin, Dunloy, Loughgile etc should rarely get a look in.

Our club is over a hundred years 1910 to be exact (hundred years later we won an all Ireland club, I'll not bore you in that lol ) we've big family traditions within the club that are very much still associated with it.... heritage and a sense of community is very much important... but yes city teams don't have a real parish as such, st endas Ardoyne Pearses and possibly Gorts being the closest to that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 06:07:02 PM
Please MR2........just how many of the Gall's team which won in 06 were born on the Lower Falls......the Gallagher bros, Dr Mc Crory, Sean Burns, Terry O' Neill......come to mind..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2016, 07:41:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 06:07:02 PM
Please MR2........just how many of the Gall's team which won in 06 were born on the Lower Falls......the Gallagher bros, Dr Mc Crory, Sean Burns, Terry O' Neill......come to mind..?

A Cargin man talking about  players from outside the parish? Do you want me to go down that road?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
Please do my friend......been about a while and I can only recall a couple....but u can elaborate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
Please do my friend......been about a while and I can only recall a couple....but u can elaborate?

So you do poach players then??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 08:20:02 PM
Not at all.....unless those individuals have a family connection
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 30, 2016, 10:20:54 PM
Magill was touting himself about a few clubs in the south west.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2016, 08:20:02 PM
Not at all.....unless those individuals have a family connection

Jesus lad just admit ya have players from outside your parish ffs! Making yourself look silly now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2016, 07:44:40 AM
Sure aren't all 'Culchies' a bit silly and sometimes forgetful MR2 but been about for a while and cannot recall those from outside the parish who donned the green who had no family connection.
M Magill is married into the Close family.
Know the line up of the first Cargin team to win the championship in 1974 and the list includes more than a few names which are on the '16 team.
I even remember when St Columbas went outa business....wonder where all those players went?
>:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 10:14:46 AM
Most of the players who come outside have a family connection or you'd think so. It's different for those living and studying in Belfast who join clubs up there, its not as if people just leave one club to go to another is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2016, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 10:14:46 AM
Most of the players who come outside have a family connection or you'd think so. It's different for those living and studying in Belfast who join clubs up there, its not as if people just leave one club to go to another is it?
Do not think such is indeed the case PJ within South Antrim.......can remember a couple of years past where a very prominent top team based in South Antrim had a player within ranks when his father was chairman of another club in the same area.
can u envisage such happening in the South West  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 01, 2016, 01:33:04 PM
Lads investment would b appreciated in the south west and north antrim as well as the city understand what ur saying but shouldnt we all be fightin for the proper share are county is entitled to as we have Irelands second city.great news that certain person has resigned from county board .black cloud maybe starting to lift
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 01, 2016, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 10:14:46 AM
Most of the players who come outside have a family connection or you'd think so. It's different for those living and studying in Belfast who join clubs up there, its not as if people just leave one club to go to another is it?
Do not think such is indeed the case PJ within South Antrim.......can remember a couple of years past where a very prominent top team based in South Antrim had a player within ranks when his father was chairman of another club in the same area.
can u envisage such happening in the South West  ???

Definitely not. I seem to remember that case well, the lad in question hasn't done to badly for himself either, maybe it was a 10 year loan deal with a view to a permanent transfer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 01, 2016, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: Galer on December 01, 2016, 01:33:04 PM
Lads investment would b appreciated in the south west and north antrim as well as the city understand what ur saying but shouldnt we all be fightin for the proper share are county is entitled to as we have Irelands second city.great news that certain person has resigned from county board .black cloud maybe starting to lift

I was pointing to Belfast because the justification I keep hearing for the spend in Dublin City is the large population thing, other distractions, need to push the games hard where they are not being taken up by big proportions of the overall population etc etc - that is your precedent.  Of course it would be great if all clubs could get plenty of funding but if the GAA are telling us the dynamics for the huge proportional spend (and that includes per head of the population) on Dublin is such then lets have it for Belfast also on a like for like basis.  I believe that if we had the Dublin model applied to Belfast it would not be much more than a generation before we see our own county team start to make real good strides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2016, 05:23:30 PM
Think our county could invest in some integrity as well.
Have seen the email and those individuals and 'county officers' could do with having a long hard look at themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 01, 2016, 10:17:41 PM
Just getting caught up with that now. Not saying I agree with that craic but it is the sort of thing that will be rife up and down the country at this time of year with AGMs taking place.

There are always people that know better; sometimes they do, sometimes they do not.

I do not know the content of the text but in an ideal world you openly communicate your vision and ask members to buy into it while giving others the respect to communicate theirs and the decision is taken from there based on who the majority believe can deliver what is needed.

This is not always the case though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 11:20:50 AM
Little reaction to the goings on which caused the resignation of the former county chairman......but hey keep your heads down and those with 'Vision' may well call :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 11:20:50 AM
Little reaction to the goings on which caused the resignation of the former county chairman......but hey keep your heads down and those with 'Vision' may well call :-\

Aye, swept under the carpet with the rest of it, TR voicemails last year, the gambling saga and the senior football final venue that caused a county official to resign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 11:20:50 AM
Little reaction to the goings on which caused the resignation of the former county chairman......but hey keep your heads down and those with 'Vision' may well call :-\

Aye, swept under the carpet with the rest of it, TR voicemails last year, the gambling saga and the senior football final venue that caused a county official to resign.
Wonder just where has my friend MR2 gone............Perhaps it is a case of all whistlers sticking together.......BS is always passing comment on the goings on in the county but hey possibly he reckons those with the 'Vision' can do no wrong ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 11:20:50 AM
Little reaction to the goings on which caused the resignation of the former county chairman......but hey keep your heads down and those with 'Vision' may well call :-\

Aye, swept under the carpet with the rest of it, TR voicemails last year, the gambling saga and the senior football final venue that caused a county official to resign.
Wonder just where has my friend MR2 gone............Perhaps it is a case of all whistlers sticking together.......BS is always passing comment on the goings on in the county but hey possibly he reckons those with the 'Vision' can do no wrong ???

Careful now.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2016, 01:43:22 PM
To be honest I was waiting to find out a bit more about the text and especially whether it came from TR on his own initiative or whether it was a calculated communication that Pol and Collie knew about in advance and we're happy to sanction. I doubt if it was the latter but  I'm for convention on Monday night so I'm sure I will get the inside track either there or before then.

In principle no one can say it's a good way to conduct business, not only against JM but also weighs heavily against a few good Gaels who were standing for the Ulster delegate position. So no marks for the culprit, or culprits.

My own feeling is that JM was going to get well battered at the polls anyway. Now he won't know that and despite the fact that this wasn't a clever communication at least Jim was spared that ignominy.

All in all the show will go on and this board despite the odd hiccup will lead us to a much better place in the years ahead. That has to be the best way of measuring their contribution to Antrim Gaa.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2016, 01:43:22 PM
To be honest I was waiting to find out a bit more about the text and especially whether it came from TR on his own initiative or whether it was a calculated communication that Pol and Collie knew about in advance and we're happy to sanction. I doubt if it was the latter but  I'm for convention on Monday night so I'm sure I will get the inside track either there or before then.

In principle no one can say it's a good way to conduct business, not only against JM but also weighs heavily against a few good Gaels who were standing for the Ulster delegate position. So no marks for the culprit, or culprits.

My own feeling is that JM was going to get well battered at the polls anyway. Now he won't know that and despite the fact that this wasn't a clever communication at least Jim was spared that ignominy.

All in all the show will go on and this board despite the odd hiccup will lead us to a much better place in the years ahead. That has to be the best way of measuring their contribution to Antrim Gaa.

You know I find your posts very good BS but I have to disagree with you this time. This is a horrible thing to happen and shouldn't of been allowed to happen. Yet more Bully boy tactics. In my opinion TR should of been hunted after the voicemail that he left last year to a South Antrim official.


All these odd hiccups will have long term damage on the Saffron Vision in my opinion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Think you have hit the nail on the head PJ,
The author of that txt has erred once to often and indeed he should go.
TR has sat comfortably on the County Board for years and I really doubt his input and most certainly his right to canvass for the removal of one who has given a lot to Antrim.
Seems the 'Vision' want to surround themselves with their own crowd.
BS makes presumption and suggests ambush and blow delivered from behind is as a mercy killing.
The 'Vision' on their canvassing tour offered plenty and although I do applaud ur optimism BS I see little to encourage me, and the latest episode does little to ensure change of mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 02, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
Sometimes u have to sacrifice for the greater good,not overly endeared with saff vision as i think there priority is hurling but they will bring us up the table a bit on both fronts.they have the people they want in now its time to follow up on there promises,dunsilly doesnt count as it would have happened anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Think you have hit the nail on the head PJ,
The author of that txt has erred once to often and indeed he should go.
TR has sat comfortably on the County Board for years and I really doubt his input and most certainly his right to canvass for the removal of one who has given a lot to Antrim.
Seems the 'Vision' want to surround themselves with their own crowd.
BS makes presumption and suggests ambush and blow delivered from behind is as a mercy killing.
The 'Vision' on their canvassing tour offered plenty and although I do applaud ur optimism BS I see little to encourage me, and the latest episode does little to ensure change of mind.

How many chances does one man need or get?

I'd be keen to hear what happens at county convention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2016, 05:14:24 PM
I'm certainly not condoning anything. There is always a right way and a wrong way of doing things and the minute I saw the text a few days ago I instinctively knew it was wrong.

JM has felt the cold shoulder and he will feel hurt. He may have made mistakes (we all do) but he never lacked for passion or effort and took up the reigns when things were at a low ebb. He should be applauded for his commitment and go on now and get a proper life. Or help out around his club.

There are a few absolutely critical positions at board level, especially PMC role as treasurer. It's vital he remains involved to see out the work that has been started. Therefore it dosent make sense to generalise about the board as a unit because of what may have been the actions of one individual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 02, 2016, 06:03:04 PM
Bs ur fairly sittin on the fence there on the jm issue.i personally glad to see the back of him.he was one of the menwho ut us in the lowest place since the troubles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2016, 06:32:39 PM
I get what you are saying Galer but sometimes it's better to let things be. There is a public record on here of my opposition to a lot of what happened during the JM tenure. As indeed JMS and before that JOB.

What I have realised is that it's far too easy to criticise especially on an anonymous forum. And it's even easier to make lists of what we do wrong. So I have changed a bit Galer in that I try to be less negative. 

JM knows we disagreed on a lot of issues but he knows me and I know him and we had it out a few times. But really it shouldn't be personal if all we really want is a better Antrim Gaa. That's why I have no intention of putting the boot in.

If you interpret that as sitting on the fence that's your prerogative Galer.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 06:44:30 PM
Wonder where MR2 stands on the txt affair.......was such evert discussed with his mate in their whistling duties or at the posts..... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 11:20:50 AM
Little reaction to the goings on which caused the resignation of the former county chairman......but hey keep your heads down and those with 'Vision' may well call :-\

Aye, swept under the carpet with the rest of it, TR voicemails last year, the gambling saga and the senior football final venue that caused a county official to resign.
Wonder just where has my friend MR2 gone............Perhaps it is a case of all whistlers sticking together.......BS is always passing comment on the goings on in the county but hey possibly he reckons those with the 'Vision' can do no wrong ???



So someone resigns from the county board and we have to pass judgment on it?? Have no idea what was posted/texted... as I'm sure you can remember JM was a great whistler.... great to hear though people on here are so concerned about JM and I never really heard them say anything nice about him while he was Chairman!

Some people aren't happy until their gurnning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 06:44:30 PM
Wonder where MR2 stands on the txt affair.......was such evert discussed with his mate in their whistling duties or at the posts..... ???
What mate??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Guess......he is a fellow whistler, and a 'by the post' mate who has texted clubs urging them to vote for his mate in the upcoming convention ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 07:08:51 PM
What club got the seats from the old casement? Asking for a friend like..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Guess......he is a fellow whistler, and a 'by the post' mate who has texted clubs urging them to vote for his mate in the upcoming convention ?


JM also an ex whistle blower... again I haven't seen the text nor do I find that stuff surprising as it happened in the last 20 committees I can think of! Happens on every club ffs! Why anybody thinks this is newsworthy is deluded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 07:20:55 PM
Methinks you know all about it  my friend, please inform me and all those interested just when did a serving member of the county board send text messages to clubs in the county informing them where to put their respective X on the voting slip and include support names of fellow county officers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 07:22:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 07:12:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Guess......he is a fellow whistler, and a 'by the post' mate who has texted clubs urging them to vote for his mate in the upcoming convention ?


JM also an ex whistle blower... again I haven't seen the text nor do I find that stuff surprising as it happened in the last 20 committees I can think of! Happens on every club ffs! Why anybody thinks this is newsworthy is deluded

Deluded? Like the abusive voicemail last year? Like there wasn't an issue with players backing the other team against London. Keep sweeping there lad. It never happened sure. Nothing to see here at all. They have gotten their man in and all is good.

Tyrone Eastwood gave years of service also and he resigned why? They changed their minds so that Corrigan could get a county final.

What next? The Bear pit getting a county final to please Mr Molloy? Actually don't suggest that just incase..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
Jesus 'the south west awakes' instead of dancing round it tell me what it was?? I've no idea what it said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
Jesus 'the south west awakes' instead of dancing round it tell me what it was?? I've no idea what it said
Ask your secretary or Mr Reilly.....not Paddy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
Jesus 'the south west awakes' instead of dancing round it tell me what it was?? I've no idea what it said
Ask your secretary or Mr Reilly.....not Paddy.

I'm asking you, you not going to tell me ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on December 02, 2016, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2016, 05:14:24 PM


There are a few absolutely critical positions at board level, especially PMC role as treasurer. It's vital he remains involved to see out the work that has been started. Therefore it dosent make sense to generalise about the board as a unit because of what may have been the actions of one individual.
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2016, 01:43:22 PM


All in all the show will go on and this board despite the odd hiccup will lead us to a much better place in the years ahead. That has to be the best way of measuring their contribution to Antrim Gaa.

Genuine questions here and I am not having a pop.  But for those who don't have the 'benefit' of attending the county meetings, 1 year into the Vision what work has been started?  what tangible evidence is there that they will 'lead us to a much better place'?  What has PMC done around finances?

From where I stand, Antrim GAA is at as a low an ebb as I ever remember but perhaps there are some great developments going on in the background that I am aware of? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
Quote from: podge on December 02, 2016, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2016, 05:14:24 PM


There are a few absolutely critical positions at board level, especially PMC role as treasurer. It's vital he remains involved to see out the work that has been started. Therefore it dosent make sense to generalise about the board as a unit because of what may have been the actions of one individual.
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2016, 01:43:22 PM


All in all the show will go on and this board despite the odd hiccup will lead us to a much better place in the years ahead. That has to be the best way of measuring their contribution to Antrim Gaa.

Genuine questions here and I am not having a pop.  But for those who don't have the 'benefit' of attending the county meetings, 1 year into the Vision what work has been started?  what tangible evidence is there that they will 'lead us to a much better place'?  What has PMC done around finances?

From where I stand, Antrim GAA is at as a low an ebb as I ever remember but perhaps there are some great developments going on in the background that I am aware of?


Dunsilly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2016, 10:22:16 PM
In a sentence Podge you have managed to say that things are at their lowest ebb. This is simply not true.

Dunsilly phase 1 complete and phase 2 negotiations will commenced shortly.
Barney Herron has done great work in his Health &Wellbeing role. Sean Kelly has been an outstanding PRO. Surely the hardest working PRO in the country and has taken PR to a new level.One of his videos was watched by 22k people.

Bronagh Lennon has completely revitalised the Scor and is an outstanding cultural officer. CCC have all competitions wrapped up and on schedule.

Club Aontroma has been revitalised too. Nearly 100 businesses have pledged £1k per annum.for the next 5 years. That's half a million pounds of funding which is an amazing achievement.

A special fundraising group has been set up to look at further funding opportunities and officials in the know are optimistic about a release of funding from Croke Park especially for Antrim.

Woodlands 4g pitch has been completed.

Casement Park redevelopment is going much better through the phases and Antrim executive officials have a new found credibility at provincial and national level. The social club issue has been tidied up for the meantime (not sure what's happening there to be honest) but they at least are being treated with some dignity.

A review committee set up to look into why our standards have slipped in inter county hurling. I'm sure we can instigate something similar for football too and we need to make this happen.

Finally, it should be acknowledged that a few individuals personally shored up our finances for a period whilst restructuring was going on, but you won't see that written down anywhere. That was low ebb.

All in all things have been taken on a fair bit inside a year. Whilst there is still a long way to go, a great start has been made. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 03, 2016, 07:04:12 AM
Wouldnt overly agree with bs as i would rather see more progress and postive talk but pj let it go its out with the old and in with the new.the old despite the odd true gael was not up to it and various regimes these people where involved in so if a few lambs have to b slaughtered for the greater good whats the problem?unless ur one of the lambs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2016, 08:31:58 AM
So Galer would like to see more progress and positive talk?

I've given you a whole list of positive developments and that's what you come back with.

Right. I'll keep this really simple.

Antrim Gaa just over a year ago was in complete turmoil. Now that WAS a low ebb. It couldn't write a cheque!! An enormous effort was put in behind the scenes by a few individuals to put together a county board that just might be able to sort out a huge mess. Quiet men like Dick Mc Keague, Tony Chivers and Brendan Mulgrew. Their efforts were largely successful even if it meant some pain for a few individuals in the process.

This was a massive turning point for Antrim Gaa.....because it was like a big ship heading straight for the rocks!

Firstly that ship had to be steadied. Then it needed a new crew. Next that crew needed to find out how things were done. After that they needed to build up a little steam of their own which was never going to be easy from a standing start.

Now they are head hunting a few new crew members to assist them build up some speed.

This is a turbulent time but will prove to be the making of Antrim Gaa. Even if that work could take a decade and people still won't be happy because we're not winning All Irelands by that stage.

From where we were to where we are in one year has been a magnificent achievement.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on December 03, 2016, 11:01:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2016, 10:22:16 PM
In a sentence Podge you have managed to say that things are at their lowest ebb. This is simply not true.

Dunsilly phase 1 complete and phase 2 negotiations will commenced shortly.
Barney Herron has done great work in his Health &Wellbeing role. Sean Kelly has been an outstanding PRO. Surely the hardest working PRO in the country and has taken PR to a new level.One of his videos was watched by 22k people.

Bronagh Lennon has completely revitalised the Scor and is an outstanding cultural officer. CCC have all competitions wrapped up and on schedule.

Club Aontroma has been revitalised too. Nearly 100 businesses have pledged £1k per annum.for the next 5 years. That's half a million pounds of funding which is an amazing achievement.

A special fundraising group has been set up to look at further funding opportunities and officials in the know are optimistic about a release of funding from Croke Park especially for Antrim.

Woodlands 4g pitch has been completed.

Casement Park redevelopment is going much better through the phases and Antrim executive officials have a new found credibility at provincial and national level. The social club issue has been tidied up for the meantime (not sure what's happening there to be honest) but they at least are being treated with some dignity.

A review committee set up to look into why our standards have slipped in inter county hurling. I'm sure we can instigate something similar for football too and we need to make this happen.

Finally, it should be acknowledged that a few individuals personally shored up our finances for a period whilst restructuring was going on, but you won't see that written down anywhere. That was low ebb.

All in all things have been taken on a fair bit inside a year. Whilst there is still a long way to go, a great start has been made.

I would have to say that's a perfectly reasonable list after 1 year. 

Like I said, it was a genuine question and I personally would not be aware of all these developments.  I am quite sure the perception that I gave around low ebbs is not unique to me.

I would say the man in the street is looking at the papers and seeing the casement debacle (admittedly mainly an ulster council lead project), the farce with the hurling management at the start of the year, the poor performances on the pitch at county level, more negative publicity re JM pulling out etc and thinks where is the progress? 

I am not sure I attribute the entirety of the list to the new regime but at least they got some of them over the line (eg Dunsilly) and deserve credit for that.  I would also like to understand a bit more re the finances, the exact arrangement with Club Aontroma etc - I expect that will be apparent at Convention

Maybe on the back of the convention, it is an opportune time for the PRO to have an article in the Press highlighting some of these positive developments.  Might get a bit of buy in from the man on the street.


Glad I asked and glad you answered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on December 03, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
Podge, I'm glad you asked too, very informative.

When you join Club Aontroma, they tell you the relationship and exact arrangements.

Sean Kelly does an absolutely sterling job.

Bronagh didn't have the vision when she got position over JH, nevertheless outstanding over the past year.

Regarding TR, 3 strikes you're out is my opinion, but I haven't seen the texts...
He knows, and the rest know; so we'll soon see if the board discharge their responsibilities properly.

BS, your summary has a feelgood factor, you and Sean should put a monthly update on the Antrim website along these lines for all antrim gaels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: bogieman on December 03, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
Podge, I'm glad you asked too, very informative.

When you join Club Aontroma, they tell you the relationship and exact arrangements.

Sean Kelly does an absolutely sterling job.

Bronagh didn't have the vision when she got position over JH, nevertheless outstanding over the past year.

Regarding TR, 3 strikes you're out is my opinion, but I haven't seen the texts...
He knows, and the rest know; so we'll soon see if the board discharge their responsibilities properly.

BS, your summary has a feelgood factor, you and Sean should put a monthly update on the Antrim website along these lines for all antrim gaels.
Got it right Podge......BS seems to have insight into our affairs but does ignore the fact that neither Sean or Bronagh were part of the Visionarys, and both excelled in their respective posts with the former the best PRO for as long as I can remember.
I do wonder if they had not proved so proficient in those positions would TR have been suggesting their removal in that txt and looked to head hunting to replace?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 03, 2016, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2016, 07:19:59 PM
I'm not sure what the fuss is about. So what if they thought he was a dick and wanted rid of him. Hardly a big deal.

Plenty of dicks still in office on the county board. Backstabbing dicks into the bargain that are only there for self promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2016, 09:49:32 PM
CB, I agree Sean and Bronagh are fantastic in their roles and weren't part of original SV. But you seem to think I am part of it, or even their trumpet or apologist. I'm not any of those.

Sean and Bronagh are just two superb ambassadors of which there are lots of others working away diligently in our clubs.

I know many very capable club administrators who wouldn't have had any remote interest in putting themselves forward for the county executive. It's been like that for a while now and hopefully that perception can change and it will once again be considered a great honour to occupy a county office.

Don't know why but I just got a wee flashback of the great Gerry Barry RIP who was an example to all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 10:47:39 PM
Indeed Bannside, and so do I......and do u think Gerry Barry would have condoned such behaviour as per TR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2016, 10:59:24 PM
It definitely wouldn't have been Gerrys style that's for sure. Manys a great chat we had, the last one in St Galls one Sunday afternoon not much longer than a year ago and he was despairing of the way things were going. Yet too much of  a gentleman to openly criticise or apportion blame. A man of principle that served the county with honour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 11:15:02 PM
Lighten up HS......didn't Cargin stand aside and give ur lads a couple county titles......life could be worse.....sure u could be transferred to Corrigan :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2016, 11:15:37 PM
He'd have needed his wits about him that's for sure. More to the point HS, are you travelling in confidence tomorrow to the banks of the bann?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 11:25:07 PM
Like ur style.......Cargin have yet to beat the Rossa men in a county final.......here's hoping :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 11:29:40 PM
JB has met with Cargin players to outline '17 programme....changes afoot :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2016, 11:30:16 PM
Should be a good final, I'll get in early for it and catch a good bit of the first game which starts at 12.30.

Looking forward to seeing some good match ups. Pat Brannigan versus either Sean Pat or Deaghlan Murphy would be tasty. Paddy Mc Parland some asset for Rossa. He'd be playing six I reckon. Think he too could be a future Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2016, 11:33:36 PM
That's next year's championship sorted then CB!  Do you think anyone in Antrim is capable of beating the Green Machine?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 11:43:53 PM
Have taken 2/1 3 in a row from my friendly odds layer BS..last season's takings......2017 will test the Milltown men.....losing to the Culchies, and well beaten in back to back years asks questions on resolve..... ???
JB is not thinking on a change of attire HS but I await invitation for an audience.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2016, 12:17:30 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2016, 11:43:53 PM
Have taken 2/1 3 in a row from my friendly odds layer BS..last season's takings......2017 will test the Milltown men.....losing to the Culchies, and well beaten in back to back years asks questions on resolve..... ???
JB is not thinking on a change of attire HS but I await invitation for an audience.

I've the house on a 3 in a row
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2016, 10:54:22 AM
Maybe next year you'll put more effort into winning a match in the Ulster championship, we won't be your main contenders next year. Rossa maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2016, 11:46:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2016, 10:54:22 AM
Maybe next year you'll put more effort into winning a match in the Ulster championship, we won't be your main contenders next year. Rossa maybe?
Perhaps you are on the mark MR2, but as to the seeding system we will not meet in the first round......dangers aplenty with Gall's first in queue, with Creggan, the Johnnies, L Dearg and Rossa there as well.....what bout Aghagallon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2016, 04:10:52 PM
It's been some year for Aghagallon! ;D
Didn't play well today but got the win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2016, 04:24:08 PM
Hope you weren't involved in that fight Hardstation ;)
What kicked that off? You boys lost the plot with about 10 to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2016, 04:33:55 PM
Thought it was a great match with two well drilled teams. Both clubs have plenty to look forward to. Defensively Aghagallon as impressive as any club team I've seen, and their keepers ability to find a man from his kick outs was top class. That and a wonder save in the first half probably shaded him the MOM in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2016, 04:47:37 PM
Was at the 21 games and thought the ref had one to forget............... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 04, 2016, 04:55:46 PM
Well done Aghagallon , what a year.

Pat branagan and Oisin Lenehan both stand out players for me.

Jim Connolly had a good first half for Rossa.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 04, 2016, 05:09:01 PM
Congratulations to St Mary's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
What was the craic with Rossa having players from other clubs playing for them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 04, 2016, 07:38:45 PM
Thought Rossa shaded it in the first half but Aghagallon improved a lot in the second.  Rossa got very frustrated with the ref, but that was absolutely no excuse for the discipline meltdown from some of their players in the closing stages.  Pat Branagan only knows one way to play, always driving at the opposition.  Great player.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 04, 2016, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2016, 07:32:12 PM
Thon sanction rule which while I appreciate it helping lads get football, it's not without its problems and can be detrimental to us in the long term.

How many lads did Rossa from other clubs ?

Did they play with the Ulster winning team of 5 years ago , or is this just for u21 level due to their clubs not fielding at this grade ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2016, 07:46:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2016, 07:32:12 PM
Thon sanction rule which while I appreciate it helping lads get football, it's not without its problems and can be detrimental to us in the long term.

I know people from a few clubs that say the same. Lads coming from other parishes and their own club men not getting games and walking away while the other disappear after a few seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 04, 2016, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2016, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 04, 2016, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2016, 07:32:12 PM
Thon sanction rule which while I appreciate it helping lads get football, it's not without its problems and can be detrimental to us in the long term.

How many lads did Rossa from other clubs ?

Did they play with the Ulster winning team of 5 years ago , or is this just for u21 level due to their clubs not fielding at this grade ?

2 I think. They didn't play for us before as far as I'm aware. As I said, it has its merits but I don't like to see Rossa lads sitting on the sideline, making way for the sanctioned players. It's fundamentally flawed IMO.

That's mad, I wouldn't be keen on that myself if I was a Rossa man.

Plenty of talent in that team HS, hard to believe you have yet to win a county u21.

That was Aghagallon's first championship win at senior grade at any age group. A great bunch of lads & a testament to the hard work that has went on at underage levels for a number of years within the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: concernedgaa on December 04, 2016, 08:35:21 PM
  Two penalties that should never have been IMO stopping the game for someone off the pitch behind the net- disgraceful. Needs to be looked at or not as is usually the case with refs but unfortunately a bad ref frustrates the life out of any team. As for the sanction players one had played before but  Both deserved their places.  Fair play to them all and hard lines.  Refs can make or break a game and for Rossa he broke it but that's just my opinion. These kids deserved their place in final it was just hard lines
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2016, 09:33:22 PM
As a total neutral I immensely enjoyed the full hour. Usually at U 21 level you might get a passenger or two making up the numbers...but I didn't see a player on the pitch that hadn't decent skills and plenty of pace. A good advert for Antrim Football and HS is gracious enough to recognise that Aghagallon, as we and the Johnnies before us found out, we're a damn good all round team.

Then again. Throw in a Deaghlan Murphy and  Gareth George and it could have been different.

But Rossa are a big club and will bounce back. Plenty of good talent coming through and they will know they have the players who are as good as whats out there. 

On the other hand fair play to Aghagallon. They have been a breath of fresh air and without naming names have half a dozen players who could kick on in Saffron in the next few years.

I'll be at Creggan to support them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2016, 10:22:54 PM
Scrappy enough game, which Rossa shaded in the first half. First penalty, big McCann bought it, second penalty, I think it was definitely a penalty.

We played a lot better in the second half, but Rossa matched us. Were unlucky hitting the post to level it with a few minutes left.

Discipline went towards the end. Particularly the big midfielder who was black carded. I was beside the row at the end and he didn't cover himself in glory.  I even heard him saying they should try to get the match abandoned.  Not cool.

But anyway. A hard fought game between two closely matched teams. The fact that our lads had been training and playing competitively up until a couple of weeks back probably helped us over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: concernedgaa on December 04, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
GS man find that hard to believe That's never nor ever will be the Roosa way! Never relied on others to win a match by default or otherwise. But to be honest IMO. The ref was a 16th man for aghallion  sad but that's the reality
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2016, 10:40:10 PM
Concernedgaa, I am just telling you what I heard from standing right beside him at the time. I'm not just making something up.

Look, it was a bit of a spoiler for the match as it was very enjoyable game between two evenly matched teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2016, 10:42:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
Gs man, I was in a fairly good position for the 2nd penalty. It was a foul all day long. It wasn't within an asses roar of the penalty area though. The ref may as well have been on Cargin's other pitch, he was that far away too.

Fair enough hardstation.  I was just to the left of Rossa dugout so I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on December 05, 2016, 07:27:18 AM
Quote from: concernedgaa on December 04, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
GS man find that hard to believe That's never nor ever will be the Roosa way! Never relied on others to win a match by default or otherwise. But to be honest IMO. The ref was a 16th man for aghallion  sad but that's the reality

Of course it was a penalty. Ffs he could have been killed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 05, 2016, 10:54:01 AM
Look you cannot account for the actions or words of one individual - if we did all our clubs would be in disrepute.

As predicted for a long time Aghagallon were going to take some stopping this year and so it proved - this level in particular is designed for a squad with good unity, all driving forward together with a good dose of senior football.  Achieving at senior was def the catalyst but there is a lot of talent in this squad and should they stick together and stick at it Aghagallon will be an established Div 1 team for the foreseeable.

Again predicted an easy win for Aldergrove and while I did not get to see it by all accounts they managed without breaking sweat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 05, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
The West's Awake, The West's Awake!

So is the South West in general. Clean sweep of championships including Minor, U-21A&B, Junior, Intermediate, Senior Reserve and Senior.

Unprecedented. A really good chance most of us won't ever see this again in our lifetimes.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 05, 2016, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 05, 2016, 10:54:01 AM
Look you cannot account for the actions or words of one individual - if we did all our clubs would be in disrepute.


Indeed.  Emotions were very high and to be fair, the majority of people were trying to get things settled down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on December 05, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 05, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
The West's Awake, The West's Awake!

So is the South West in general. Clean sweep of championships including Minor, U-21A&B, Junior, Intermediate, Senior Reserve and Senior.

Unprecedented. A really good chance most of us won't ever see this again in our lifetimes.

Sure aghagallon are North? North Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2016, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 05, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
The West's Awake, The West's Awake!

So is the South West in general. Clean sweep of championships including Minor, U-21A&B, Junior, Intermediate, Senior Reserve and Senior.

Unprecedented. A really good chance most of us won't ever see this again in our lifetimes.


Gort Na Mona won the reserve shield.

Say nothing though, City GAA is where it's all happening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 05, 2016, 10:54:01 AM
Look you cannot account for the actions or words of one individual - if we did all our clubs would be in disrepute.

As predicted for a long time Aghagallon were going to take some stopping this year and so it proved - this level in particular is designed for a squad with good unity, all driving forward together with a good dose of senior football.  Achieving at senior was def the catalyst but there is a lot of talent in this squad and should they stick together and stick at it Aghagallon will be an established Div 1 team for the foreseeable.

Again predicted an easy win for Aldergrove and while I did not get to see it by all accounts they managed without breaking sweat.
As u say my friend but Aghagallom have not as yet done it at 'senior' level.
Next season will provide different opponents....when u can come to Toome, or Milltown, Hannahstown, Corrigan etc and gain the day then utter those 'have done it at senior' words.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on December 04, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
GS man find that hard to believe That's never nor ever will be the Roosa way! Never relied on others to win a match by default or otherwise. But to be honest IMO. The ref was a 16th man for aghallion  sad but that's the reality

Your Davitt's team mates didn't help the Rossa team at all. The big fella in midfield was putting in late tackles all day and then got put off. He was doing you more harm than good. Half your bench, players and management were over the wire involved in the fight in the crowd. We got a bit of luck with one of the penalties but we have been on the end of plenty of shite referring decisions over the years so maybe we were due one.

As for Aghagallon at senior level. I would say the senior management will be well aware of the step up and will be trying to stay up next year and try establish themselves as a division 1 team. We have another good batch of minors coming through and we get the benefit of our players playing mccrory football in Lurgan. Even more of an emphasis needs to be put on our underage teams now and use this success to help push on from here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on December 05, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 05, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
The West's Awake, The West's Awake!

So is the South West in general. Clean sweep of championships including Minor, U-21A&B, Junior, Intermediate, Senior Reserve and Senior.

Unprecedented. A really good chance most of us won't ever see this again in our lifetimes.

Sure aghagallon are North? North Armagh

McGeeney was at the game yesterday sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 07:14:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 05, 2016, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on December 04, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
GS man find that hard to believe That's never nor ever will be the Roosa way! Never relied on others to win a match by default or otherwise. But to be honest IMO. The ref was a 16th man for aghallion  sad but that's the reality

Half your bench, players and management were over the wire involved in the fight in the crowd.
Jim, I was a fair distance from the fight but I feel that this is greatly exaggerated. I'm not sure why you would do that.

HS it was easy to spot the players with their white tops! The whole thing ended up a mess. Fights in the crowd should never happen in GAA, leave it to the soccer boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
Was within a few yards on the row and saw no Rossa players outside the perimeter fencing.......did see a few Rossa lads defending and seemed incensed on 'a 16 year old' getting hit and an Aghagallon lad with a cut eye......but he ref was a few yards away with black book in hand ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
I see an Aghagallon individual tweeting complaining on the Cargin facilities................jeez he has some cheek I have been up to his neck of the woods a few times.......perhaps he would have liked to come down and gathered up the ton of rubbish left behind ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 05, 2016, 09:57:20 PM
Well I wrecked a good pair of Nike Air Max trekking out of the car park and ripped my shell suit trying to get over yer bastid fence. Joke of a venue.
Sorry about that HS....will certainly be replaced..but only footwear worn down here would be wellies.
Would u prefer black or green?
Never heard of a suit made from shells but what size are you in dungarees?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
I see an Aghagallon individual tweeting complaining on the Cargin facilities................jeez he has some cheek I have been up to his neck of the woods a few times.......perhaps he would have liked to come down and gathered up the ton of rubbish left behind ::)

Who was the individual? I didn't hear one person complain about the grounds. Walking off the field at the end I did notice the amount of rubbish left behind on the grass bank by all 4 sets of supporters. A few wee lads were running about with bags gathering it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 05, 2016, 09:57:20 PM
Well I wrecked a good pair of Nike Air Max trekking out of the car park and ripped my shell suit trying to get over yer bastid fence. Joke of a venue.

Have you ginger hair and about 16-18 years of age? Starting rows.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on December 05, 2016, 11:04:42 PM
£7000 in the new business account I heard the footballers raised more at the boxing night show me the money saffron no vision 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2016, 07:33:36 AM
Quote from: Clover on December 05, 2016, 11:04:42 PM
£7000 in the new business account I heard the footballers raised more at the boxing night show me the money saffron no vision 🤔

Does that include the price of running it, venue renting boxing ring, referee...etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 06, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 05, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
I see an Aghagallon individual tweeting complaining on the Cargin facilities................jeez he has some cheek I have been up to his neck of the woods a few times.......perhaps he would have liked to come down and gathered up the ton of rubbish left behind ::)

Who was the individual? I didn't hear one person complain about the grounds. Walking off the field at the end I did notice the amount of rubbish left behind on the grass bank by all 4 sets of supporters. A few wee lads were running about with bags gathering it up.
That smart arrogant 'Aghagallon supporter' had not the balls to leave his name on a comment made on county guestbook......did not go down at all well ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 06, 2016, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 05, 2016, 10:54:01 AM
Look you cannot account for the actions or words of one individual - if we did all our clubs would be in disrepute.

As predicted for a long time Aghagallon were going to take some stopping this year and so it proved - this level in particular is designed for a squad with good unity, all driving forward together with a good dose of senior football.  Achieving at senior was def the catalyst but there is a lot of talent in this squad and should they stick together and stick at it Aghagallon will be an established Div 1 team for the foreseeable.

Again predicted an easy win for Aldergrove and while I did not get to see it by all accounts they managed without breaking sweat.
As u say my friend but Aghagallom have not as yet done it at 'senior' level.
Next season will provide different opponents....when u can come to Toome, or Milltown, Hannahstown, Corrigan etc and gain the day then utter those 'have done it at senior' words.

Sorry, when I say achieving at Senior I am referring to the current U21s having been involved in a squad that has secured successive promotions and won the intermediate championship playing for the senior team within the club.  While I feel Aghagallon have a very strong base to establish themselves at Div 1 level there is a difference in being an established Div 1 team and a top Div 1 team like those you mention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 06, 2016, 08:48:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2016, 09:36:51 PM
I see an Aghagallon individual tweeting complaining on the Cargin facilities................jeez he has some cheek I have been up to his neck of the woods a few times.......perhaps he would have liked to come down and gathered up the ton of rubbish left behind ::)

Ha never saw that but yeah while the Aghagallon facilities have been upgraded there is still a good bit to be done before they become top class.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 06, 2016, 12:04:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 05, 2016, 07:19:25 PM
Oh, I know they were easy to spot and I still contest that you have greatly exaggerated the numbers. Fights in the crowd should never happen. Rossa weren't fighting with themselves however and our lads say that it began with an Aghagallon supporter striking our player through the fence. Gs man will know, he seems to have been in the middle of it.

Really don't want to dwell on the row as I don't want to take anything away from the game.  So here's my final word on it.  When it initially started I was at the other side of the dug-out and made my way up as I was worried my two kids might have been caught up in it, but luckily they were kicking ball on the 4G behind the goal.  There were only 4 or 5 of our supporters in that section so myself and a few others I was standing with did try to calm the situation down, as did a good number of Rossa supporters.

I would estimate about half a dozen players had left the pitch.  But in my mind there was only one player doing any damage.  Maybe if he'd have concentrated on the football and stayed on the pitch the outcome of the game may have been different.

As for the facilities, no issue with that whatsoever.  Bit of muck on the way out, but sure. No big deal.  Nice cup of tea at the shop too.  I think someone might be on the wind-up on the Antrim Website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 06, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
I see the SV men did not get their choice for Ulster elected at Convention..........Anybody at it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
I see the SV men did not get their choice for Ulster elected at Convention..........Anybody at it ?

Dont mention it. We don't need to know p
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: samboswig on December 07, 2016, 04:38:27 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 08, 2016, 12:05:12 AM


Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #35828 on: Today at 12:04:13 AM »
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Interesting points from county chairman today in Irish News
(1) are divisional boards working?
(2) clubs to amalgamate in belfast ( creating even bigger super clubs !!!!!)
(3) are developing squads working ?
Power Hungry  people !!!!
Not too many North antrim  / south West  on county executive!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 08, 2016, 12:07:32 AM


Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #35828 on: Today at 12:04:13 AM »
QuoteModifyRemove
Interesting points from county chairman today in Irish News
(1) are divisional boards working?
(2) clubs to amalgamate in belfast ( creating even bigger super clubs !!!!!)
(3) are developing squads working ?
Power Hungry  people !!!!
Not too many North antrim  / south West  on county executive!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
Not at Convention and seems nobody else on site was there either.
Man who was there, and who has attended for the last 40 years tells me that 2016 was by far the worst in memory.
No discussion on a shallow, his term, secs report or a suggestive and negative chairman's address.
Wonder what BS made of the event....he has kept his councel... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2016, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
Not at Convention and seems nobody else on site was there either.
Man who was there, and who has attended for the last 40 years tells me that 2016 was by far the worst in memory.
No discussion on a shallow, his term, secs report or a suggestive and negative chairman's address.
Wonder what BS made of the event....he has kept his councel... ???

So based on this guy you know who's went to last 40 conventions said it was boring?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2016, 09:04:04 PM
But I will obviously take ur observations on board MR2.... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2016, 09:51:33 PM
I didn't make any as I wasn't there, neither were you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 08, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
I was at convention and it passed off mainly without incident, rancour or division. It was easily the quietest I have been too and there were probably a few reasons for this. The main one is that delegates would have had a digital copy of the content in advance so a read through that showed obvious progress albeit to the outside world this level of detail can be hidden from view.

The accounts were thorough and professionally delivered. Obvious signs of progress there but "more to do" was thd message. When delegates saw the starting position and particularly how close we were to the edge I think the feeling was more of general relief than of euphoria.

I would have expected more comment on football and hurling matters....but convention really isn't the place for that.  All those conversations would be put back to the next CC meeting where the same club delegates would get a chance to air their views when there will be less on the agenda.

As Collie Donnelly himself said...solid progress has been made but there is still much to do.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on December 09, 2016, 07:55:52 AM
Bannside, I love the positive spin you put on things. There was a clear disconnect between the top table and some of the county Exec on the Night. Esp when the chair of the CCC stood up and informed the club delegates that 3 motions were out of order and should be withdrawn? You not agree.

Agree re Pol McCann delivery, comes across very professional. Delivery of report was chalk and cheese from last year.

On a side note, I was always of the opinion you couldn't stand for elections unless you attended the convention?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2016, 09:46:34 AM
Agree with all that Stillwater. Owen Elliott seemed to be well on top of his game. Quite impressed with him tbh. Agree too with your other points...except the positive spin remark of course...lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 09, 2016, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on December 09, 2016, 07:55:52 AM
Bannside, I love the positive spin you put on things. There was a clear disconnect between the top table and some of the county Exec on the Night. Esp when the chair of the CCC stood up and informed the club delegates that 3 motions were out of order and should be withdrawn? You not agree.

Agree re Pol McCann delivery, comes across very professional. Delivery of report was chalk and cheese from last year.

On a side note, I was always of the opinion you couldn't stand for elections unless you attended the convention?
Of course there is a disconnect between those as you put in 'in the top table' and others in the Exec.....SW.
Did those in that loftly place not, through their emissary TR ask/advise/tell clubs to offload a couple from within and replace with their men.
The clubs knew better.
BS, obviously a huge admirer of the SV does seem less than enthusiastic.
The chairman in his address did come up with a few humdingers and in particular his talk of amalgamation.....wonder why he is airing such in a year in which the South Antrim clubs failed to win anything?
The chairman did not even take a sentence or two to give mention to our PRO who was absolutely the best we have seen for a long time.....perhaps SK who was not part of the Vision is not part of 'the in crowd'.
Making progress says BS but can he point out just where such was detected having failed to win a single game in Ulster on the football front and the hurlers could not even secure the Christy Ring.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2016, 10:32:17 AM
I'd say TR sent that text out whilst on a solo run. I doubt very much if CD or PMC knew of its existence until it was too late.  Now that was a bit of disconnect! I'd say tough lessons were learned. No one in the arena had an appetite for that or tried to condone it, and the successful Ulster delegate James Mc Lean made his feelings known in plain language that everyone understood and agreed with.

Regards the amalgamation thing.  It's not a new idea specific to Antrim or Belfast. It's a conversation that is going on all around thd country and will hit hard into rural areas too if if hasn't already.  People having smaller families and many primary school classes getting much smaller on size. Even the reasonably successful Sean Stinsons combo with both parishes involved will see a few years where they will find it hard to get a team gathered up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 09, 2016, 12:07:32 PM
What did James McLean say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 09, 2016, 12:30:25 PM
If any sporting organisation is in a mess the first thing you need to sort out is the administration of it - the sporting side then follows - it is the logical way and I would assume this is the approach the SV crowd are taking - I for one am not expecting an immediate sorting out on both fronts - a year is not a long time in the bigger scheme of things.

Regards amalgamation of city clubs - I do not think this is the way to be going - the numbers are there and the key is figuring out how to get them involved and keep them involved - by amalgamating I think you are essentially giving up on increasing your base and as a result are not going to strengthen Antrim County. 

If we are to get super strong city clubs it will require investment on the level Dublin have enjoyed - the obvious caveat is that kids in Dublin had a relatively successful county team to have ambitions of reaching but still lets have some of that pie regarding funding.  In essence good governance is key to getting funding so the administration work that is going on behind the scenes at present is the building blocks to future success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 09, 2016, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2016, 10:32:17 AM
Regards the amalgamation thing.  It's not a new idea specific to Antrim or Belfast. It's a conversation that is going on all around thd country and will hit hard into rural areas too if if hasn't already.  People having smaller families and many primary school classes getting much smaller on size. Even the reasonably successful Sean Stinsons combo with both parishes involved will see a few years where they will find it hard to get a team gathered up.

How can portglenone struggle with numbers Bannside? I'd have thought the numbers should be there. Are participation %'s low? And if so, whats the reason for that?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 09, 2016, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2016, 10:32:17 AM
I'd say TR sent that text out whilst on a solo run. I doubt very much if CD or PMC knew of its existence until it was too late.  Now that was a bit of disconnect! I'd say tough lessons were learned. No one in the arena had an appetite for that or tried to condone it, and the successful Ulster delegate James Mc Lean made his feelings known in plain language that everyone understood and agreed with.

Regards the amalgamation thing.  It's not a new idea specific to Antrim or Belfast. It's a conversation that is going on all around thd country and will hit hard into rural areas too if if hasn't already.  People having smaller families and many primary school classes getting much smaller on size. Even the reasonably successful Sean Stinsons combo with both parishes involved will see a few years where they will find it hard to get a team gathered up.
Saw said text BS and it was sanctioned by a couple more named individuals ........and u are suggesting without consent.....pull the other one.
As for amalgamation sure the big clubs in Belfast are always seeking the addition such as they cherry pick at will and thus the weak remain weak with little hope on the horizon.
Within the parish of Duneane we have cargin, creggan, and moneyglass and a few from newbridge and have a look at Slaughtneil with just 220 houses in an area the best in Ulster no talk of amalgamation in those clubs.
I see u have no explaination as to why our resident co chairman failed to chastise the' texter' at convention, and did not let clubs know as to why himself and sidekick TR overruled assigned committee to change the venue for senior championship decider, and just why he failed to acknowledge the work done by the new PRO during 2016......SK not a Visionary?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2016, 02:03:14 PM
I think Skull the combo has enough numbers most years but there are just one or two coming up that there were small numbers of boys for a couple of years in a row.  After that is OK again. One P7 class coming up has four boys in a class of 20 and two of them have no interest whatsoever in football.

Even some strong footballing parishes nearby in South Derry have real difficulty getting full sides put at juvenile level.

One way of another, amalgamations will be happening all over the country as small parishes struggle for numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Only two Cargin men on the panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on December 09, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
Amalgamation Proposal / Vision:

Carey McQuillan Rovers
St Mary's Cuchullains 
St Brigids Sharmocks
Oisin Emmets RuairíÓg

St Enda's Ardoyne Pearses
Colin Davitts
St Agnes ÉireÓg
Gort Lamh Dhearg
St Patricks Teresa's Mitchels
O'Donnells St John's Galls
St Paul's Rossa Sarsfields
St Brigid's Malachy's

Magee's UiNeill Saints
St Ergnat's Erins Own
St Comgall's Creggan NanÓg
St. Mary's Casements Gaels
St Mary's James and Joseph

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 09, 2016, 04:55:22 PM
Who are Colin Gaels ? What division do they compete in?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: AQMP on December 09, 2016, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Only two Cargin men on the panel.

I read somewhere that the Cargin contingent were offered the chance to sit out the McKenna Cup due to their season running on with the club championship.  A couple of other players from last year are playing with college sides e.g. Niall McKeever

Ah right. Makes more sense.

I think some clubs may have something to say about those amalgamations  ;D If they're needed for numbers in certain areas fair enough but in a lot of cases they aren't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2016, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: AQMP on December 09, 2016, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Only two Cargin men on the panel.

I read somewhere that the Cargin contingent were offered the chance to sit out the McKenna Cup due to their season running on with the club championship.  A couple of other players from last year are playing with college sides e.g. Niall McKeever

What run??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 09, 2016, 06:39:16 PM
I'd love to see The conversation between St brigids and the Mals ....different perspectives to say the least lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2016, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 09, 2016, 06:39:16 PM
I'd love to see The conversation between St brigids and the Mals ....different perspectives to say the least lol.

Different languages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 09, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2016, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: AQMP on December 09, 2016, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Only two Cargin men on the panel.

I read somewhere that the Cargin contingent were offered the chance to sit out the McKenna Cup due to their season running on with the club championship.  A couple of other players from last year are playing with college sides e.g. Niall McKeever

What run??
Jeez MR2 methinks u really are a bad loser......short run but slightly further than ur boys...........don''t forget we won everything in division one and deserve a rest.
As I say the trick is sustainability and revenge is sweet........but the question is are the Milltown boys up for it.......some do have their doubts. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 09, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2016, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: AQMP on December 09, 2016, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Only two Cargin men on the panel.

I read somewhere that the Cargin contingent were offered the chance to sit out the McKenna Cup due to their season running on with the club championship.  A couple of other players from last year are playing with college sides e.g. Niall McKeever

What run??
Jeez MR2 methinks u really are a bad loser......short run but slightly further than ur boys...........don''t forget we won everything in division one and deserve a rest.
As I say the trick is sustainability and revenge is sweet........but the question is are the Milltown boys up for it.......some do have their doubts. :)

Jeez I just was wondering what run? An extra game?  But hey I'm a bad loser... I've been telling you for years CB we are well past our best.. probably won't be back for a while which isn't great for us as a club, enjoy your break and 'run' next year ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 11, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Burren beat Dunloy 10-7 this morning in the Ulster minor series.

Elliot impressed for dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2016, 08:02:48 PM
Hear Dunloy were missing a few ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 11, 2016, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2016, 08:02:48 PM
Hear Dunloy were missing a few ?

Decky Smyth injured on the sideline.

Burren seemed bigger throughout and made better of their chances.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2016, 08:50:16 AM
we were missing 4 from the team that started the final which was a big miss for us. that being said we played pretty well considering. Burren are a strong side and look like they could go the distance in the competition.

Very proud of our lads when you consider that they won every single match in the minor hurling & U16 hurling en-route to winning the county football title as well. a very talented group of players who will all hopefully make the step up to senior in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2016, 09:11:04 AM
Considering you had 4 players missing getting to within a score of Burren was a great effort yesterday DR.

This particular Burren team is highly considered and won the Paul Mc Girr tournament two years ago. Apparently they hadn't been beaten at that stage in any contest the whole way up from U-12.

Big question now is whether or not this talented Dunloy group will stick around and be competitive now they have a taste of what they can achieve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on December 12, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 09, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
Amalgamation Proposal / Vision:

Carey McQuillan Rovers
St Mary's Cuchullains 
St Brigids Sharmocks
Oisin Emmets RuairíÓg

St Enda's Ardoyne Pearses
Colin Davitts
St Agnes ÉireÓg
Gort Lamh Dhearg
St Patricks Teresa's Mitchels
O'Donnells St John's Galls
St Paul's Rossa Sarsfields
St Brigid's Malachy's

Magee's UiNeill Saints
St Ergnat's Erins Own
St Comgall's Creggan NanÓg
St. Mary's Casements Gaels
St Mary's James and Joseph

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What an awful idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2016, 11:25:34 AM
It was just the way things were with 12 of them being dual players they were always going to pick up knocks and strains. Burren dont have any hurling so their lads prob were well rested up for the game. The joys of being successful lol

The current senior manager is involved with the minor panel so hes been very much planning to have all these lads in his panel for the forth coming season. They have a good balance between senior hurling and football in the club now and both managers work well together to ensure players arent burnt out or over trained
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on December 12, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 09, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
Amalgamation Proposal / Vision:

Carey McQuillan Rovers
St Mary's Cuchullains 
St Brigids Sharmocks
Oisin Emmets RuairíÓg

St Enda's Ardoyne Pearses
Colin Davitts
St Agnes ÉireÓg
Gort Lamh Dhearg
St Patricks Teresa's Mitchels
O'Donnells St John's Galls
St Paul's Rossa Sarsfields
St Brigid's Malachy's

Magee's UiNeill Saints
St Ergnat's Erins Own
St Comgall's Creggan NanÓg
St. Mary's Casements Gaels
St Mary's James and Joseph

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What an awful idea

Some of them would be a battle in training never mind matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 11:34:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 11:25:34 AM
It was just the way things were with 12 of them being dual players they were always going to pick up knocks and strains. Burren dont have any hurling so their lads prob were well rested up for the game. The joys of being successful lol

The current senior manager is involved with the minor panel so hes been very much planning to have all these lads in his panel for the forth coming season. They have a good balance between senior hurling and football in the club now and both managers work well together to ensure players arent burnt out or over trained

Senior manager staying on for another year? Who all is in his backroom team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2016, 12:19:35 PM
dominic is staying on and has martin doherty & adrian mcallister along with him this year. Martins a good man to have involved as he previously was over Kilrea & Loup so its a good head to have with him. Adrian played football for years for Dunloy and so did his brother so hes another good man to have with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on December 12, 2016, 12:24:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 12:19:35 PM
dominic is staying on and has martin doherty & adrian mcallister along with him this year. Martins a good man to have involved as he previously was over Kilrea & Loup so its a good head to have with him. Adrian played football for years for Dunloy and so did his brother so hes another good man to have with him.

Martin was not over Kilrea nor the Loup, his brother Peter was manager of both, Martin was in the management team. What is Dominic's surname?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2016, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: shawshank on December 12, 2016, 12:24:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 12:19:35 PM
dominic is staying on and has martin doherty & adrian mcallister along with him this year. Martins a good man to have involved as he previously was over Kilrea & Loup so its a good head to have with him. Adrian played football for years for Dunloy and so did his brother so hes another good man to have with him.

Martin was not over Kilrea nor the Loup, his brother Peter was manager of both, Martin was in the management team. What is Dominic's surname?

im sure you could find out yourself seeing as you know so much yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on December 12, 2016, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: shawshank on December 12, 2016, 12:24:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 12:19:35 PM
dominic is staying on and has martin doherty & adrian mcallister along with him this year. Martins a good man to have involved as he previously was over Kilrea & Loup so its a good head to have with him. Adrian played football for years for Dunloy and so did his brother so hes another good man to have with him.

Martin was not over Kilrea nor the Loup, his brother Peter was manager of both, Martin was in the management team. What is Dominic's surname?

im sure you could find out yourself seeing as you know so much yourself.

The reason I know about Martin is that he is from our club, and his brother Peter managed us when we got to the county final a few years back, and Martin was on the management team, after us they moved unto the Loup. Lots of time for the two Docs, two sound solid men. I actually didn't know he had been with Dunloy until I read the post. So much for showing a bit of interest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2016, 03:20:20 PM
be better if you had of explained that rather than your first message that was bascially 'yer wrong mate'. :D

Martin has a keen interest in Dunloy so its nice to see him helping out. From speaking to the manager he was very impressed with what he wanted to bring to the table. Dominic's surname is Dillon. this will be his third season in charge of the football. Done a good job to take us from bottom half of Div 3 to two county finals and Div 2 football.

On another note that Kilrea minor team look a seriously good outfit. will take a good team to beat them this year in the St Pauls tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 03:20:20 PM
be better if you had of explained that rather than your first message that was bascially 'yer wrong mate'. :D

Martin has a keen interest in Dunloy so its nice to see him helping out. From speaking to the manager he was very impressed with what he wanted to bring to the table. Dominic's surname is Dillon. this will be his third season in charge of the football. Done a good job to take us from bottom half of Div 3 to two county finals and Div 2 football.

On another note that Kilrea minor team look a seriously good outfit. will take a good team to beat them this year in the St Pauls tournament.

DR, how much of the recent rise was Paddy Bradleys influence though? Not being smart or disrepectful when I ask. I like to see SW teams improve and do well, Dunloy are a good club who have invested and worked hard on internal structures and are reaping the reward.

I was at a table with Martin & Peter (sounds like Stormont here!) at a wedding a few years back, 2 nicer men you wouldn't meet anywhere, real sound GAA men who know their stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2016, 04:27:31 PM
paddy was in there for training during the season as he would of been friends with Dominic outside of football in the first year he was there. he def helped at training for the lads as it gave them a voice and experience that wasnt present before in other panels.

second season he wasn't there as much and they had a lot of injuries during the season which left them with a bad start but they did finish strong near the end up. I would say he did have an influence on the team as he was an experience football brain that brought new ideas to the team but in saying that we have always had good football players in the club. Its only in the past years that it got into a decline. I rem us playing in senior championship semi finals but ultimately being so strong in the hurling also takes its toll.

I think its harder to be a successful dual club at all levels in the top grade consistently than it is for single code clubs. You always find that 80% of your panel will play both hurling and football and its hard to keep it going.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on December 12, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 09, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
Amalgamation Proposal / Vision:

Carey McQuillan Rovers
St Mary's Cuchullains 
St Brigids Sharmocks
Oisin Emmets RuairíÓg

St Enda's Ardoyne Pearses
Colin Davitts
St Agnes ÉireÓg
Gort Lamh Dhearg
St Patricks Teresa's Mitchels
O'Donnells St John's Galls
St Paul's Rossa Sarsfields
St Brigid's Malachy's

Magee's UiNeill Saints
St Ergnat's Erins Own
St Comgall's Creggan NanÓg
St. Mary's Casements Gaels
St Mary's James and Joseph

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What an awful idea
An awful idea indeed but when u consider this sprung from the mind of our county chairman and has the tacit support of such as Bannside.
Just what is the suggestion?
Is C D asking for clubs to fold and their better players to join up with their stronger neighbours?
I really do wonder just where he is coming from and indeed his understanding of our Association and if he gets his wish and wholesale amalgamations become reality who would be the beneficiaries?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:10:33 PM
I've been banging on here since I started on the board that there are far too many clubs in Belfast! All this other crap about Belfast having big numbers and should be doing better is stupid too... if that's the case Dublin should be winning county hurling every year seeing the numbers they have !

Clubs have been sanctioning players for years, sure Sean Stinsons was a great example of this, and numerous other north Antrim hurling clubs joined together, and still do, while my view on this has always been that clubs in Belfast should have 2 senior hurling clubs that are fed by other clubs... so your club keeps its identity till under 21 then they filter into a 'super' club which will have senior intermediate and junior set ups that will facilitate everyone, if the football is going the same way then let's look at before saying no..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:10:33 PM
I've been banging on here since I started on the board that there are far too many clubs in Belfast! All this other crap about Belfast having big numbers and should be doing better is stupid too... if that's the case Dublin should be winning county hurling every year seeing the numbers they have !

Clubs have been sanctioning players for years, sure Sean Stinsons was a great example of this, and numerous other north Antrim hurling clubs joined together, and still do, while my view on this has always been that clubs in Belfast should have 2 senior hurling clubs that are fed by other clubs... so your club keeps its identity till under 21 then they filter into a 'super' club which will have senior intermediate and junior set ups that will facilitate everyone, if the football is going the same way then let's look at before saying no..

Surely a sanction and an amalgamation are 2 different things?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:30:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:10:33 PM
I've been banging on here since I started on the board that there are far too many clubs in Belfast! All this other crap about Belfast having big numbers and should be doing better is stupid too... if that's the case Dublin should be winning county hurling every year seeing the numbers they have !

Clubs have been sanctioning players for years, sure Sean Stinsons was a great example of this, and numerous other north Antrim hurling clubs joined together, and still do, while my view on this has always been that clubs in Belfast should have 2 senior hurling clubs that are fed by other clubs... so your club keeps its identity till under 21 then they filter into a 'super' club which will have senior intermediate and junior set ups that will facilitate everyone, if the football is going the same way then let's look at before saying no..

Surely a sanction and an amalgamation are 2 different things?

Of course they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 09:45:16 PM
Just one question MR2.....do u feel quite happy with Gall's fading away into the blue mist, and in existence soley as a feeder juvenile outfit providing players for ur 'super club', say O'Donnell's just up the road?
Or do u look on the Milltown as a receiver rather than a giver?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 09:45:16 PM
Just one question MR2.....do u feel quite happy with Gall's fading away into the blue mist, and in existence soley as a feeder juvenile outfit providing players for ur 'super club', say O'Donnell's just up the road?
Or do u look on the Milltown as a receiver rather than a giver?

You read my post??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 10:01:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:30:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:10:33 PM
I've been banging on here since I started on the board that there are far too many clubs in Belfast! All this other crap about Belfast having big numbers and should be doing better is stupid too... if that's the case Dublin should be winning county hurling every year seeing the numbers they have !

Clubs have been sanctioning players for years, sure Sean Stinsons was a great example of this, and numerous other north Antrim hurling clubs joined together, and still do, while my view on this has always been that clubs in Belfast should have 2 senior hurling clubs that are fed by other clubs... so your club keeps its identity till under 21 then they filter into a 'super' club which will have senior intermediate and junior set ups that will facilitate everyone, if the football is going the same way then let's look at before saying no..

Surely a sanction and an amalgamation are 2 different things?

Of course they are.

Sean Stinsons aren't a sanctioning club i don't think, they are an almalgamation.

Personally i love going to city clubs for a game, always made welcome around them. We should be striving to hold on to all clubs and fight off the other sports.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 09:45:16 PM
Just one question MR2.....do u feel quite happy with Gall's fading away into the blue mist, and in existence soley as a feeder juvenile outfit providing players for ur 'super club', say O'Donnell's just up the road?
Or do u look on the Milltown as a receiver rather than a giver?

You read my post??
Certainly did and I am sure u are not suggesting Gall's as amongst the 'too many' and although I do remain a simple Culchie it does seem u are promoting the 'super club' idea and those other lesser outfits only holding on to identity until u-21 level and in existence simply to supply.
Try and preach such doctrine to country based clubs where a fierce loyalty and love of the parish is a fundamental......
Or do cross the bridge at Toome and travel up to Slaughtneill and preach ur doctrine there......200 houses therein about 10% or less of what u would count on the Whiterock road......and the most successful unit in Ulster and up there withe the best in Ireland....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 12, 2016, 09:45:16 PM
Just one question MR2.....do u feel quite happy with Gall's fading away into the blue mist, and in existence soley as a feeder juvenile outfit providing players for ur 'super club', say O'Donnell's just up the road?
Or do u look on the Milltown as a receiver rather than a giver?

You read my post??
Certainly did and I am sure u are not suggesting Gall's as amongst the 'too many' and although I do remain a simple Culchie it does seem u are promoting the 'super club' idea and those other lesser outfits only holding on to identity until u-21 level and in existence simply to supply.
Try and preach such doctrine to country based clubs where a fierce loyalty and love of the parish is a fundamental......
Or do cross the bridge at Toome and travel up to Slaughtneill and preach ur doctrine there......200 houses therein about 10% or less of what u would count on the Whiterock road......and the most successful unit in Ulster and up there withe the best in Ireland....

Ok so you didn't read it then, I said let's have a look at it (open it up for debate) I said I've wanted this idea for hurling...

I'm very proud of my clubs 106 year history and achievements (have I mentioned them ?) as a dual club with handball Scor and ladies football all very successful throughout the years I'm not keen on giving up our heritage but there are a lot of clubs that don't have the numbers anymore... S'Neil have a great generation of players, that won't always be there, you do accept that?

Think to rubbish the idea is foolish, it's not a winning formula either as history shows you that clubs get their run of success.. plenty clubs had barren years, Cargin being one of them but they bounce back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
Just for the record my "tacit" support for amalgamations that CB alludes to is on a  need to basis. Where clubs simply cannot get the numbers out. Or where there is a serious lack of expertise because running a club is hard work. It's become a huge tick box exercise now, and a club needs dozens of really good volunteers now to get all the jobs done....properly.

That tacit approval is a last resort really, not a gung-ho  approach to forcing clubs against their will, but facilitating clubs to build strong well organised vibrant and sustainable clubs that act as a hub for both the community and on field excellence.

Is that not just commonsense?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 12, 2016, 11:35:08 PM
I've had a look at it and (speaking from a country club perspective) I think its a rubbish idea. Sanctions are there to get players  from clubs who've number issues an opportunity to play. Thats some extreme tinkering thats likely to cause world war 3 in some clubs

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2016, 07:37:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 12, 2016, 11:35:08 PM
I've had a look at it and (speaking from a country club perspective) I think its a rubbish idea. Sanctions are there to get players  from clubs who've number issues an opportunity to play. Thats some extreme tinkering thats likely to cause world war 3 in some clubs

I thought you would. I've one question, do you feel there are too many Belfast clubs?

At juvenile level lately how many games have you notice that Belfast teams haven't fielded due to numbers (oh that's two questions!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 13, 2016, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 12, 2016, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2016, 03:20:20 PM
be better if you had of explained that rather than your first message that was bascially 'yer wrong mate'. :D

Martin has a keen interest in Dunloy so its nice to see him helping out. From speaking to the manager he was very impressed with what he wanted to bring to the table. Dominic's surname is Dillon. this will be his third season in charge of the football. Done a good job to take us from bottom half of Div 3 to two county finals and Div 2 football.

On another note that Kilrea minor team look a seriously good outfit. will take a good team to beat them this year in the St Pauls tournament.

DR, how much of the recent rise was Paddy Bradleys influence though? Not being smart or disrepectful when I ask. I like to see SW teams improve and do well, Dunloy are a good club who have invested and worked hard on internal structures and are reaping the reward.

I was at a table with Martin & Peter (sounds like Stormont here!) at a wedding a few years back, 2 nicer men you wouldn't meet anywhere, real sound GAA men who know their stuff.

Yeah from what I gathered Bradley was not the catalyst but rather the other boys getting in and getting the commitment of the best players due to the respect they had for them.  What I was lead to believe anyway - I am sure DR knows much better than any of us though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 13, 2016, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2016, 07:37:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 12, 2016, 11:35:08 PM
I've had a look at it and (speaking from a country club perspective) I think its a rubbish idea. Sanctions are there to get players  from clubs who've number issues an opportunity to play. Thats some extreme tinkering thats likely to cause world war 3 in some clubs

I thought you would. I've one question, do you feel there are too many Belfast clubs?

At juvenile level lately how many games have you notice that Belfast teams haven't fielded due to numbers (oh that's two questions!)

def too many clubs, i know of a few clubs struggled for numbers big time this year and their results showed this. id like to make another point on the subject, if a team is constantly scraping to get a team out and sending SOS messages to old retired players time and time again to 'pull them out of a hole' when does that hole swallow the club up? i know clubs have to fulfil fixtures but i can see it having a negative effect on young players coming through just fulfilling fixtures and no real drive behind it. some clubs need to swallow their pride and realise their numbers aren't there to keep going it alone and join with another. most clubs will fulfil fixtures but surely you'd rather be playing and training with a squad of 20-25 committed players as opposed to 10 at training and others just turning up as they please, which unfortunately is a problem a lot of smaller belfast clubs have (can't speak for the country teams)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2016, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 12, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
Just for the record my "tacit" support for amalgamations that CB alludes to is on a  need to basis. Where clubs simply cannot get the numbers out. Or where there is a serious lack of expertise because running a club is hard work. It's become a huge tick box exercise now, and a club needs dozens of really good volunteers now to get all the jobs done....properly.

That tacit approval is a last resort really, not a gung-ho  approach to forcing clubs against their will, but facilitating clubs to build strong well organised vibrant and sustainable clubs that act as a hub for both the community and on field excellence.

Is that not just commonsense?
I do not think your 'commonsense' approach would find much favour in the S West BS, or indeed at Portglenone.....seems you really do play lip service to the Visionarys.
Are Casement's experiencing problems within and considering amalgamation or indeed which 'club' does in your considered opinion really need to contemplate such?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
im assuming tagging us with rasharkin they are talking in terms of hurling only as we have a few of their players in our hurling structures. we dont have any at football for obvious reasons as they field at all the grades other than Minor.

Ive always wondered why Portglenone continued with the SS underage teams whenever they can field at U21 level they clearly have enough players so i assume its done to help Ahoghill more so? maybe im wrong BS but Portglenone as an area has grown in terms of the nationalist population quite considerably that they could field their own teams? I've been down watching my god daughter playing camogie for Geraldine's u6's and couldn't believe the numbers there.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 13, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
If belfast clubs dont have the numbers there is little hope for the rest of us.Maybe Belfast would enjoy more success with the nos if croke park would give our county the required funding.but maybe the clubs need to work harder instead of looking for an easy way out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Galer on December 13, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
If belfast clubs dont have the numbers there is little hope for the rest of us.Maybe Belfast would enjoy more success with the nos if croke park would give our county the required funding.but maybe the clubs need to work harder instead of looking for an easy way out.
Agree Galer and it is my belief that this call to amalgamation does ring loud from within the 'big clubs' in South Antrim and indeed some need to have a good look within.
The last club to go outa business was Mc Dermott's a few years back, and at such juncture a leading club had grabbed at least a couple of their former players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 13, 2016, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Galer on December 13, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
If belfast clubs dont have the numbers there is little hope for the rest of us.Maybe Belfast would enjoy more success with the nos if croke park would give our county the required funding.but maybe the clubs need to work harder instead of looking for an easy way out.
Agree Galer and it is my belief that this call to amalgamation does ring loud from within the 'big clubs' in South Antrim and indeed some need to have a good look within.
The last club to go outa business was Mc Dermott's a few years back, and at such juncture a leading club had grabbed at least a couple of their former players.

Was Mickey Pollock at Gorts man or a McDermotts man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
throwing money at Belfast will solve nothing. it wont make players turn up for training's or encourage kids to want to learn the skills or instil the desire to compete.  the work must be done from within the clubs themselves.

Belfast as a population for playing is massive compared to any country club. Look at Glenariffe, they have a small area to pick from, small village yet they field at every level in hurling. They have competed backwards and forwards at the top level for the past no of years. How does that work yet a club in Belfast struggles to field with 10 times the nos to pick from.  I know its been dragged out but Sneill as a club are the prime example of making it work.

Is there any research to show the population of an area around a GAA pitch in Belfast and the actual playing/participation percentage? something like that would highlight say for example 'browns road' has 40 houses within 1000m of the ground and X% are involved with the club.

Sounds a bit flimsy but in essence it would give guides as to how much of the area around the club are involved or would be interested in being involved. never mind casement or other business ventures the survival of the GAA in Belfast should be top of the agenda and not taking the easy option and merge clubs together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 13, 2016, 02:24:55 PM
Not Antrim but Belfast - Underage work being done in Bredagh is starting to pay off. Some way to go yet but its certainly encouraging. Only age group we appear to struggle with numbers is U21. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
dont disagree there, Bredagh have done some great underage work to build their club. St Bridget's are the same, i heard they are wanting to start camogie in their club as well now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on December 13, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
throwing money at Belfast will solve nothing. it wont make players turn up for training's or encourage kids to want to learn the skills or instil the desire to compete.  the work must be done from within the clubs themselves.

Belfast as a population for playing is massive compared to any country club. Look at Glenariffe, they have a small area to pick from, small village yet they field at every level in hurling. They have competed backwards and forwards at the top level for the past no of years. How does that work yet a club in Belfast struggles to field with 10 times the nos to pick from.  I know its been dragged out but Sneill as a club are the prime example of making it work.

Is there any research to show the population of an area around a GAA pitch in Belfast and the actual playing/participation percentage? something like that would highlight say for example 'browns road' has 40 houses within 1000m of the ground and X% are involved with the club.

Sounds a bit flimsy but in essence it would give guides as to how much of the area around the club are involved or would be interested in being involved. never mind casement or other business ventures the survival of the GAA in Belfast should be top of the agenda and not taking the easy option and merge clubs together.

There's really only one statistic we all need to look at. GAA volunteer numbers over time.

It may be a generational thing or people nowadays just don't have as much free time as they used to. The number of volunteers within every club has declined at a steady rate over the past decade and we are now (most of the clubs in this county) in a very troubled position. Constantly looking for managers/coaches/committees etc. Paying outsiders to come into our clubs to do work which was once done by a number of very dedicated individuals.

We ALL need to take a look at ourselves and ask what do WE do for our clubs? What do our FRIENDS do for our club? What do the EX-PLAYERS do for our club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 13, 2016, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 13, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
We ALL need to take a look at ourselves and ask what do WE do for our clubs? What do our FRIENDS do for our club? What do the EX-PLAYERS do for our club?
+1
Thats the elephant in the room that needs the attention and needs to be discussed in open forums that can be heard by parents/communities rather than committee rooms where the converted already know the score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 13, 2016, 06:24:12 PM
Throwing money at the individual clubs won't help but getting more funding for coaches in schools and promotion of the game would help a great deal. I am in charge of sport and after schools clubs in my school. I coach in KS2 one day a week and I was lucky to secure 6 weeks of football coaching for PE from a friend. But I couldn't get anyone to help with KS1 and fundamentals. Ulster Council were able to secure me 1 hour a week but it didn't suit as the hall isn't free at that time. 1 hour a week for all of KS1!! My school is crying out for help and we can't get it. The schools budget is certainly not going to allow it and my principal is certainly not going to release me from class to go and coach the younger ones. I know other schools in the area are the same. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
CB you asked me if Portglenone are having problems and are "considering an amalgamation". What the fcuk sort of a question is that! We are in rude health thank you and our target (on our own) is to get within a beagles gowl of the mighty Erin's Own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2016, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
CB you asked me if Portglenone are having problems and are "considering an amalgamation". What the fcuk sort of a question is that! We are in rude health thank you and our target (on our own) is to get within a beagles gowl of the mighty Erin's Own.
The question was posed to provoke the answer given BS......so what is all the talk on problems within and talk of amalgamation about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2016, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Galer on December 13, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
If belfast clubs dont have the numbers there is little hope for the rest of us.Maybe Belfast would enjoy more success with the nos if croke park would give our county the required funding.but maybe the clubs need to work harder instead of looking for an easy way out.
Agree Galer and it is my belief that this call to amalgamation does ring loud from within the 'big clubs' in South Antrim and indeed some need to have a good look within.
The last club to go outa business was Mc Dermott's a few years back, and at such juncture a leading club had grabbed at least a couple of their former players.

How does it ring loud from the big clubs? ourselves Rossa the Johnnies Sarsfields seem to be certainly at under 10's up have great numbers at their respective training sessions... things look healthy but the problem when it gets to senior is keeping lads at the club... I've no idea why that is, they lack parish association? Possibly some lack of identity maybe, who knows I just know looking in from blue tinted glasses that kids nowadays lose loyalty very quickly...

Parish clubs don't have that problem, demographics change but they bounce back and produce a great team every so often... city teams should with the numbers they have do better... could argue volunteers or you could argue poor coaching or just a bad bunch.... the fact still remains there are too many Belfast clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2016, 08:39:10 PM
Same as last year. PRO. Why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
Maybe I fell for that then CB lol. Anyway my final stance on amalgamations. Only when it is absolutely necessary and player centred - meaning no juvenile misses a match because his club can't field. Simple enough?

Referee...What's your angle?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2016, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
Maybe I fell for that then CB lol. Anyway my final stance on amalgamations. Only when it is absolutely necessary and player centred - meaning no juvenile misses a match because his club can't field. Simple enough?

Referee...What's your angle?

I wouldn't bite Bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 14, 2016, 11:41:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
throwing money at Belfast will solve nothing. it wont make players turn up for training's or encourage kids to want to learn the skills or instil the desire to compete.  the work must be done from within the clubs themselves.

Belfast as a population for playing is massive compared to any country club. Look at Glenariffe, they have a small area to pick from, small village yet they field at every level in hurling. They have competed backwards and forwards at the top level for the past no of years. How does that work yet a club in Belfast struggles to field with 10 times the nos to pick from.  I know its been dragged out but Sneill as a club are the prime example of making it work.

Is there any research to show the population of an area around a GAA pitch in Belfast and the actual playing/participation percentage? something like that would highlight say for example 'browns road' has 40 houses within 1000m of the ground and X% are involved with the club.

Sounds a bit flimsy but in essence it would give guides as to how much of the area around the club are involved or would be interested in being involved. never mind casement or other business ventures the survival of the GAA in Belfast should be top of the agenda and not taking the easy option and merge clubs together.

I think a big focus has to be in the primary schools with pupils getting a good standard of coaching being brought in and on a regular basis where kids get coached a few times a week with plenty of competition blitzes to reinforce learning.  That is what money can buy for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 14, 2016, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 13, 2016, 06:24:12 PM
Throwing money at the individual clubs won't help but getting more funding for coaches in schools and promotion of the game would help a great deal. I am in charge of sport and after schools clubs in my school. I coach in KS2 one day a week and I was lucky to secure 6 weeks of football coaching for PE from a friend. But I couldn't get anyone to help with KS1 and fundamentals. Ulster Council were able to secure me 1 hour a week but it didn't suit as the hall isn't free at that time. 1 hour a week for all of KS1!! My school is crying out for help and we can't get it. The schools budget is certainly not going to allow it and my principal is certainly not going to release me from class to go and coach the younger ones. I know other schools in the area are the same.

Should have read on down before my last post!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 14, 2016, 11:45:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
CB you asked me if Portglenone are having problems and are "considering an amalgamation". What the fcuk sort of a question is that! We are in rude health thank you and our target (on our own) is to get within a beagles gowl of the mighty Erin's Own.

You will need to work on mentality then.  I have not saw Cargin clear up at underage in recent years but they still bring enough through and have that solid mentality to remain at the top.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 14, 2016, 11:45:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2016, 06:40:58 PM
CB you asked me if Portglenone are having problems and are "considering an amalgamation". What the fcuk sort of a question is that! We are in rude health thank you and our target (on our own) is to get within a beagles gowl of the mighty Erin's Own.

You will need to work on mentality then.  I have not saw Cargin clear up at underage in recent years but they still bring enough through and have that solid mentality to remain at the top.

You only need one or two good players each year to make the grade and move into a well oiled machine........ as long as the coaching/training  is of a good standard then the lads will mature and fit in, its not a complex thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?

Hindrance?? They have no bearing on how 'the big clubs' whatever that means... the smaller clubs aren't fielding ya muppet, has nothing to do with clubs that have higher numbers... Belfast have only one or two one coded clubs, for me that is a factor in getting larger squads.. different in my day when all the lads hurled whether they liked it or not, parents never had a say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 15, 2016, 12:00:55 AM
They definitely like to " cherry pick " the best underage talent from the "smaller" clubs .  Some young players and their parents only interested in getting medals to massage their egos. I wonder will the need to massage egos fall under remit of health and well being committee.in supporting transfers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?

Hindrance?? They have no bearing on how 'the big clubs' whatever that means... the smaller clubs aren't fielding ya muppet, has nothing to do with clubs that have higher numbers... Belfast have only one or two one coded clubs, for me that is a factor in getting larger squads.. different in my day when all the lads hurled whether they liked it or not, parents never had a say

I prefer you didn't insult me by calling me a muppet. Rightly or wrongly it's my opinion and I am adding my view into the discussion.

Your arrogance really does you no favours MR2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?

Hindrance?? They have no bearing on how 'the big clubs' whatever that means... the smaller clubs aren't fielding ya muppet, has nothing to do with clubs that have higher numbers... Belfast have only one or two one coded clubs, for me that is a factor in getting larger squads.. different in my day when all the lads hurled whether they liked it or not, parents never had a say

I prefer you didn't insult me by calling me a muppet. Rightly or wrongly it's my opinion and I am adding my view into the discussion.

Your arrogance really does you no favours MR2.

Hindrance.... explain how it's a hindrance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:16:30 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 15, 2016, 12:00:55 AM
They definitely like to " cherry pick " the best underage talent from the "smaller" clubs .  Some young players and their parents only interested in getting medals to massage their egos. I wonder will the need to massage egos fall under remit of health and well being committee.in supporting transfers

You understand that there is no real parish clubs in Belfast? People go to a club based on family first, influences at a school, friends ask their friends to join them and yes medal chasing parents send their kids to a 'bigger club' but cherry picking? That's city GAA there is no other way unfortunately... if I lived in the area/parish of club now I'd have no team to play for! Your argument/post is pointless there is no system that works for city GAA... the transfer thing ended up stopping kids playing though I did agree with it in principle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 15, 2016, 12:56:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:16:30 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 15, 2016, 12:00:55 AM
They definitely like to " cherry pick " the best underage talent from the "smaller" clubs .  Some young players and their parents only interested in getting medals to massage their egos. I wonder will the need to massage egos fall under remit of health and well being committee.in supporting transfers

You understand that there is no real parish clubs in Belfast? People go to a club based on family first, influences at a school, friends ask their friends to join them and yes medal chasing parents send their kids to a 'bigger club' but cherry picking? That's city GAA there is no other way unfortunately... if I lived in the area/parish of club now I'd have no team to play for! Your argument/post is pointless there is no system that works for city GAA... the transfer thing ended up stopping kids playing though I did agree with it in principle

to flip the coin and play devils advocate, there are a lot of smaller clubs who rely on picking players up from the bigger clubs that aren't maybe getting a game etc. works both ways, i think as MR2 says it boils down to there are too many clubs in belfast, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 15, 2016, 12:56:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:16:30 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 15, 2016, 12:00:55 AM
They definitely like to " cherry pick " the best underage talent from the "smaller" clubs .  Some young players and their parents only interested in getting medals to massage their egos. I wonder will the need to massage egos fall under remit of health and well being committee.in supporting transfers

You understand that there is no real parish clubs in Belfast? People go to a club based on family first, influences at a school, friends ask their friends to join them and yes medal chasing parents send their kids to a 'bigger club' but cherry picking? That's city GAA there is no other way unfortunately... if I lived in the area/parish of club now I'd have no team to play for! Your argument/post is pointless there is no system that works for city GAA... the transfer thing ended up stopping kids playing though I did agree with it in principle

to flip the coin and play devils advocate, there are a lot of smaller clubs who rely on picking players up from the bigger clubs that aren't maybe getting a game etc. works both ways, i think as MR2 says it boils down to there are too many clubs in belfast, unfortunately.

So what clubs do they get rid of?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?

Hindrance?? They have no bearing on how 'the big clubs' whatever that means... the smaller clubs aren't fielding ya muppet, has nothing to do with clubs that have higher numbers... Belfast have only one or two one coded clubs, for me that is a factor in getting larger squads.. different in my day when all the lads hurled whether they liked it or not, parents never had a say

I prefer you didn't insult me by calling me a muppet. Rightly or wrongly it's my opinion and I am adding my view into the discussion.

Your arrogance really does you no favours MR2.

Hindrance.... explain how it's a hindrance?

Well if they can't field that means games not played, that means girls & boys without games, therefore causing a hindrance to the big 4/5.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?

Hindrance?? They have no bearing on how 'the big clubs' whatever that means... the smaller clubs aren't fielding ya muppet, has nothing to do with clubs that have higher numbers... Belfast have only one or two one coded clubs, for me that is a factor in getting larger squads.. different in my day when all the lads hurled whether they liked it or not, parents never had a say

I prefer you didn't insult me by calling me a muppet. Rightly or wrongly it's my opinion and I am adding my view into the discussion.

Your arrogance really does you no favours MR2.

Hindrance.... explain how it's a hindrance?

Well if they can't field that means games not played, that means girls & boys without games, therefore causing a hindrance to the big 4/5.
seeing as it all county from under 16 up then everone loses out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 14, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
It is getting harder for all clubs, both in the city and the country to field teams. It doesn't help when other sports are now so readily available. When I went to school we played football and hurling, now kids in our club are playing rugby, soccer & basketball outside term time and it's having serious affect on us. They play all winter and then want a summer off etc. I've spoken to other people from different clubs & counties and they find the same. Do we stop our youth playing other sports? We need to sell ourselves more with a sense of pride. Rugby is having a serious effect in Munster with free gear etc outside schools, the same is starting here.

Developing the game in the city is as complex topic as you'll get. The smaller clubs will want to stay in business and rightly so, while some "big" clubs seem to consider these clubs as a hindrance and want shot of them and cherry pick who they want for their own means and will use almalgamation as an excuse.

As far as quality coaching goes, the fact that the GAA is considered as a babysitting service for some doesn't help. How many parents drop the kids off for an hour so they can go to the shops and get some head peace?

Hindrance?? They have no bearing on how 'the big clubs' whatever that means... the smaller clubs aren't fielding ya muppet, has nothing to do with clubs that have higher numbers... Belfast have only one or two one coded clubs, for me that is a factor in getting larger squads.. different in my day when all the lads hurled whether they liked it or not, parents never had a say

I prefer you didn't insult me by calling me a muppet. Rightly or wrongly it's my opinion and I am adding my view into the discussion.

Your arrogance really does you no favours MR2.

Hindrance.... explain how it's a hindrance?

Well if they can't field that means games not played, that means girls & boys without games, therefore causing a hindrance to the big 4/5.
seeing as it all county from under 16 up then everone loses out

Always knew city men would be the death of Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 15, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Bollocks to amalgamations before everything possible is done to increase the base and that would apply strongest to the city.  Fair enough if everything has been done to maximize participation but I do not believe this is the case.  Our unrealised potential as a county lies largely within the untapped potential in Belfast City.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 15, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Bollocks to amalgamations before everything possible is done to increase the base and that would apply strongest to the city.  Fair enough if everything has been done to maximize participation but I do not believe this is the case.  Our unrealised potential as a county lies largely within the untapped potential in Belfast City.

Lets just not mention it again, you'll only upset a few people and clearly us culchies know nothing about City Life and City GAA. Maybe we should have a North & South West county team and a different county team for the City lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2016, 02:34:26 PM
Apologies if already considered but could Belfast look to merge smaller sides and enter them into a 'divisional championship', similar to that in Kerry??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: east down gael on December 15, 2016, 06:29:28 PM
Would it be impossible to have geographical boundaries for clubs in belfast?
Just as an example
Lamh dearg-hannahstown
St endas-glengormley
St brigids-Malone
St malachys-markets
Or is it too ingrained that you play for the club your father/family always played for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 15, 2016, 06:41:21 PM
Juvenile leagues are only at minor level MR2 in football  in the S West, and indeed cannot ever envisage any change in the near future fingers crossed.
As to the present discussion on amalgamation and ur rather rude dismissal of content added by PJ which was more than worthy of discussion may wel have touched a nerve. Surely the present County Chairman and indeed influential people like urself would be much better served in looking forward to aiding those 'weaker' units of our proud association on the upward.
And indeed ur club in particular should look at the 'cherry picking' policy which has ensured the 'weak' shall remain well in arrears.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 15, 2016, 07:41:13 PM
Mr2 how abt gettin more of the parents involved.i know most clubs in the south west and north antrim act as a community group rather than just a gaelic club.also kids now adays want good facilities ,like soccer can provide.maybe if the clibs actually fundraised they could improve there facilities.the galls changing room is hardly state of the art,come to think of it my dogs kennel is more modern tgan half the changing rooms in belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 15, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Bollocks to amalgamations before everything possible is done to increase the base and that would apply strongest to the city.  Fair enough if everything has been done to maximize participation but I do not believe this is the case.  Our unrealised potential as a county lies largely within the untapped potential in Belfast City.

Lets just not mention it again, you'll only upset a few people and clearly us culchies know nothing about City Life and City GAA. Maybe we should have a North & South West county team and a different county team for the City lads.

paddy, do SW and north Antrim have teams that amalgamate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 15, 2016, 06:41:21 PM
Juvenile leagues are only at minor level MR2 in football  in the S West, and indeed cannot ever envisage any change in the near future fingers crossed.
As to the present discussion on amalgamation and ur rather rude dismissal of content added by PJ which was more than worthy of discussion may wel have touched a nerve. Surely the present County Chairman and indeed influential people like urself would be much better served in looking forward to aiding those 'weaker' units of our proud association on the upward.
And indeed ur club in particular should look at the 'cherry picking' policy which has ensured the 'weak' shall remain well in arrears.

MMCG
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 08:35:52 PM
Quote from: Galer on December 15, 2016, 07:41:13 PM
Mr2 how abt gettin more of the parents involved.i know most clubs in the south west and north antrim act as a community group rather than just a gaelic club.also kids now adays want good facilities ,like soccer can provide.maybe if the clibs actually fundraised they could improve there facilities.the galls changing room is hardly state of the art,come to think of it my dogs kennel is more modern tgan half the changing rooms in belfast

Yes I agree parents should but don't, a lot of them use it as already said as babysitting... yes changing rooms are shit in most clubs in Belfast but I can recall as many clubs up the country that didn't even have running water or changing rooms... but sure good changing rooms win championships... Ahoghill must have a few seeing as theirs are top notch!

I don't know what goes on in other clubs but being a ref I see the same faces looking after their teams juveniles for a lot of years, I can go back 15 years when I took our under 12's and some clubs still have the same guys looking after the teams... plenty people with ideas but no real effort to put the hard miles in...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 15, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Bollocks to amalgamations before everything possible is done to increase the base and that would apply strongest to the city.  Fair enough if everything has been done to maximize participation but I do not believe this is the case.  Our unrealised potential as a county lies largely within the untapped potential in Belfast City.

Lets just not mention it again, you'll only upset a few people and clearly us culchies know nothing about City Life and City GAA. Maybe we should have a North & South West county team and a different county team for the City lads.

paddy, do SW and north Antrim have teams that amalgamate?

Nah, we'll cherry pick the good ones and the rest can go do what they want
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 15, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Bollocks to amalgamations before everything possible is done to increase the base and that would apply strongest to the city.  Fair enough if everything has been done to maximize participation but I do not believe this is the case.  Our unrealised potential as a county lies largely within the untapped potential in Belfast City.

Lets just not mention it again, you'll only upset a few people and clearly us culchies know nothing about City Life and City GAA. Maybe we should have a North & South West county team and a different county team for the City lads.

paddy, do SW and north Antrim have teams that amalgamate?

Nah, we'll cherry pick the good ones and the rest can go do what they want

Thats what I thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 11:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2016, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 15, 2016, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 15, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Bollocks to amalgamations before everything possible is done to increase the base and that would apply strongest to the city.  Fair enough if everything has been done to maximize participation but I do not believe this is the case.  Our unrealised potential as a county lies largely within the untapped potential in Belfast City.

Lets just not mention it again, you'll only upset a few people and clearly us culchies know nothing about City Life and City GAA. Maybe we should have a North & South West county team and a different county team for the City lads.

paddy, do SW and north Antrim have teams that amalgamate?

Nah, we'll cherry pick the good ones and the rest can go do what they want

Thats what I thought

Well sure that's what you want to happen with the super clubs in Belfast is it not? Let the best players get better and the crap ones can do what they want.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 16, 2016, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.
You are dead right Galer and indeed such as you state underlines the differences between a club such as Ahoghill and the South Antrim units of our Association.
Ahoghill are functioning with credit and with notable success in a small catchment area, and indeed in the midst of an area not entirely GAA friendly which is in total contrast to more than a few Belfast clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.

Using Ahoghill as their facilities are second to none well Creggan is fantastic set up as well, my point stands... great changing rooms won't win championships... and memories are very short here or some posters are 14 years of age
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.

Using Ahoghill as their facilities are second to none well Creggan is fantastic set up as well, my point stands... great changing rooms won't win championships... and memories are very short here or some posters are 14 years of age

Is it all about winning championships? I'd take a country club over a city club any day, no matter what the success is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 16, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Is it all about winning championships? I'd take a country club over a city club any day, no matter what the success is.

Appears that subtle point is being lost in some quarters. If too much focus is placed on silverware being the true measure of success then you're goosed IMO.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.

Using Ahoghill as their facilities are second to none well Creggan is fantastic set up as well, my point stands... great changing rooms won't win championships... and memories are very short here or some posters are 14 years of age

Is it all about winning championships? I'd take a country club over a city club any day, no matter what the success is.

Cause youre from the country, thats simple lad...... And your clubs aspirations are what next year?

ensuring the club thrives and has outlets for all its playing members is obviously the main goal, creating an enviornment that has the core foundations of the Gaa behind it, is what everyone whats.... set that to the side and the club still trains to win the championship that its in, be it under 12, Junior Intermediate or Senior, otherwise why do players, managers put in the effort from Jan throught to October?

City V Country clubs..... Oh why oh why does it get round to this? maybe one of the reasons as to why Antrim underperforms so many times

I'm not even sure where this topic started.... Clubs amalgamating in Belfast is just a point brought up at county convention, all of a sudden the SW lads got a bit worried... my 2 cents worth is there are too many Belfast clubs and that hasnt changed and anyone involved with any cub in Belfast will tell you that, been saying it for years... and you cant put a Parish in Belfast, its not the 1920's...

I cant see any agreement on it as people dont want to lose their identity so don't worry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 16, 2016, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 16, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Is it all about winning championships? I'd take a country club over a city club any day, no matter what the success is.

Appears that subtle point is being lost in some quarters. If too much focus is placed on silverware being the true measure of success then you're goosed IMO.

That is how some clubs measure success, its all about winning championships. Of course championships are super to win and I've been lucky enough to win a few but personally my perspective has changed, its now about getting my children out and enjoying their sport and integrating in the club ethos, everything that is good about our games.

In some people eyes the success isn't what happens on the pitch but what happens off it that counts with the club.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 16, 2016, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 16, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Is it all about winning championships? I'd take a country club over a city club any day, no matter what the success is.

Appears that subtle point is being lost in some quarters. If too much focus is placed on silverware being the true measure of success then you're goosed IMO.

That is how some clubs measure success, its all about winning championships. Of course championships are super to win and I've been lucky enough to win a few but personally my perspective has changed, its now about getting my children out and enjoying their sport and integrating in the club ethos, everything that is good about our games.

In some people eyes the success isn't what happens on the pitch but what happens off it that counts with the club.

I'm glad its changed and you are all for  loooking after the GAA as a whole...

I love this GAA utopia we are seeing here and i when I'm refereeing next year the goodwill will be spread among the supporters and the refs wont get a hard time because its not about the winning its about taking part
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 16, 2016, 03:10:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 16, 2016, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 16, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Is it all about winning championships? I'd take a country club over a city club any day, no matter what the success is.

Appears that subtle point is being lost in some quarters. If too much focus is placed on silverware being the true measure of success then you're goosed IMO.

That is how some clubs measure success, its all about winning championships. Of course championships are super to win and I've been lucky enough to win a few but personally my perspective has changed, its now about getting my children out and enjoying their sport and integrating in the club ethos, everything that is good about our games.

In some people eyes the success isn't what happens on the pitch but what happens off it that counts with the club.

I'm glad its changed and you are all for  loooking after the GAA as a whole...

I love this GAA utopia we are seeing here and i when I'm refereeing next year the goodwill will be spread among the supporters and the refs wont get a hard time because its not about the winning its about taking part

Refs shouldn't get a hard time anyway. Anyway sure you are a great ref who stays out of the spotlight so you'll be 100%.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 16, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.

Using Ahoghill as their facilities are second to none well Creggan is fantastic set up as well, my point stands... great changing rooms won't win championships... and memories are very short here or some posters are 14 years of age
Think if u do cast ur mind back a couple of years MR2 u will find that both Ahoghill and Creggan did win championships.....Ahoghill took Antrim and Ulster titles and Creggan went a step further in gaining Antrim, Ulster, and All Ireland success......and u a hurling man ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 16, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Ahoghill mighnt win a chamionship and are a dual club  with the population of less than one street in belfast,the group of players they have achieved everything they possibly could,junior and inter in both codes with maybe 1-3 players comin through every 1-2 yearswhatever there doin there doin it right.many of the senior players hardly had glitering underage careers so it makes it even more immpressive.clubs in belfast have to realise they dont have the right any more to dicate to children/parents they have to go over and above to make our games attractive.great to c a belfast school playing mcrory football,if they can do this regularly it will do a lot for clubs in belfast.

Using Ahoghill as their facilities are second to none well Creggan is fantastic set up as well, my point stands... great changing rooms won't win championships... and memories are very short here or some posters are 14 years of age
Think if u do cast ur mind back a couple of years MR2 u will find that both Ahoghill and Creggan did win championships.....Ahoghill took Antrim and Ulster titles and Creggan went a step further in gaining Antrim, Ulster, and All Ireland success......and u a hurling man ???

You are either thick or on the wind up!!! sometimes you have good posts about the state of antrim football, club/county then other times i feel like your four year son has hacked your account...

It has nothing to do with facilities those players were brought up on fields that didn't have the facilities they have now, nor did it help them win their championhips, same for us, crap changing rooms means nothing, we didn't have a pitch for 3 years then had 2, the bulk of that championship team trained at St Pats on the Glen road for 3 years when they were juveniles... learning their craft by coaches who were ex players/players who were fathers of the kids training... Like i say these things come in cycles it may be 10 years before we have that luck/hard work again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 16, 2016, 06:24:20 PM
Jeez MR2 u do come across as a really arrogant person and although I do not know u it is my perception that u have a superior, know all attitude... ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on December 16, 2016, 06:51:35 PM
Bit rich coming from a know all journalist lol pot and kettle spring to mind George!

Galls haven't won a championship in 2 years and u have them for the scrap heap!

Go through every club in Ireland and there r blow ins involved at some level be it playing or management or committee level!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 16, 2016, 07:43:35 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on December 16, 2016, 06:51:35 PM
Bit rich coming from a know all journalist lol pot and kettle spring to mind George!

Galls haven't won a championship in 2 years and u have them for the scrap heap!

Go through every club in Ireland and there r blow ins involved at some level be it playing or management or committee level!

??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 16, 2016, 08:42:28 PM
Mr2 if one team cherry picked the best of the south west they would win as many chamionships as st galls.however u assumed i was attacking st galls my point was that the xbox generation want the best and will not accept anything less.times have changed and so do gaa clubs if they want a future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:43:18 AM
Yeah to add to that I am not fearful of city amalgamations but my preference would be a situation where loads of funding attained from HQ to promote the games particularly in primary schools, improve facilities to make GAA clubs an attractive option and see where that takes us. I would try and follow what has been happening in Dublin and use the fundfing precedent that has been set there.

I believe that for us to have a strong county team we need our largest populated area by a distance producing a good few really strong teams. St Galls had a period of dominance and got to one All Ireland and won another, they were an exceptional side at this time but them winning was not a reflection of the strength of Antrim football as a whole.

And as someone pointed out great to see McRory representation. A positive step.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:43:18 AM
Yeah to add to that I am not fearful of city amalgamations but my preference would be a situation where loads of funding attained from HQ to promote the games particularly in primary schools, improve facilities to make GAA clubs an attractive option and see where that takes us. I would try and follow what has been happening in Dublin and use the fundfing precedent that has been set there.

I believe that for us to have a strong county team we need our largest populated area by a distance producing a good few really strong teams. St Galls had a period of dominance and got to one All Ireland and won another, they were an exceptional side at this time but them winning was not a reflection of the strength of Antrim football as a whole.

And as someone pointed out great to see McRory representation. A positive step.

We did manage as a county to get to an Ulster final and Ran Kerry close in that period, and mainly without Gall lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:43:18 AM
Yeah to add to that I am not fearful of city amalgamations but my preference would be a situation where loads of funding attained from HQ to promote the games particularly in primary schools, improve facilities to make GAA clubs an attractive option and see where that takes us. I would try and follow what has been happening in Dublin and use the fundfing precedent that has been set there.

I believe that for us to have a strong county team we need our largest populated area by a distance producing a good few really strong teams. St Galls had a period of dominance and got to one All Ireland and won another, they were an exceptional side at this time but them winning was not a reflection of the strength of Antrim football as a whole.

And as someone pointed out great to see McRory representation. A positive step.

We did manage as a county to get to an Ulster final and Ran Kerry close in that period, and mainly without Gall lads

We did indeed but that was one good year, we beat weak Donegal and Cavan teams before those two gallant failures. I know some counties are pretty successful without having outstanding club teams but we are sitting on a huge city population and I would like to see its potential maximised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on December 17, 2016, 09:49:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:43:18 AM
Yeah to add to that I am not fearful of city amalgamations but my preference would be a situation where loads of funding attained from HQ to promote the games particularly in primary schools, improve facilities to make GAA clubs an attractive option and see where that takes us. I would try and follow what has been happening in Dublin and use the fundfing precedent that has been set there.

I believe that for us to have a strong county team we need our largest populated area by a distance producing a good few really strong teams. St Galls had a period of dominance and got to one All Ireland and won another, they were an exceptional side at this time but them winning was not a reflection of the strength of Antrim football as a whole.

And as someone pointed out great to see McRory representation. A positive step.

We did manage as a county to get to an Ulster final and Ran Kerry close in that period, and mainly without Gall lads

Five St Galls players started the Ulster final in 2009
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2016, 10:02:13 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:43:18 AM
Yeah to add to that I am not fearful of city amalgamations but my preference would be a situation where loads of funding attained from HQ to promote the games particularly in primary schools, improve facilities to make GAA clubs an attractive option and see where that takes us. I would try and follow what has been happening in Dublin and use the fundfing precedent that has been set there.

I believe that for us to have a strong county team we need our largest populated area by a distance producing a good few really strong teams. St Galls had a period of dominance and got to one All Ireland and won another, they were an exceptional side at this time but them winning was not a reflection of the strength of Antrim football as a whole.

And as someone pointed out great to see McRory representation. A positive step.

We did manage as a county to get to an Ulster final and Ran Kerry close in that period, and mainly without Gall lads

We did indeed but that was one good year, we beat weak Donegal and Cavan teams before those two gallant failures. I know some counties are pretty successful without having outstanding club teams but we are sitting on a huge city population and I would like to see its potential maximised.

Cavan were weak that year but donegal weren't. They didn't play very well against us but most of that team won ai medals.

As minder said plenty of st galls guys on it. Sean kelly wasn't i think and maybe mcgourtys weren't but mclean, brady, healy o'neill, gallagher etc all there.

On a sidenote fm that team losing james loughrey has been a massive blow to us as ge could mix it with the best in ulster at least at that stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2016, 10:02:13 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 17, 2016, 08:43:18 AM
Yeah to add to that I am not fearful of city amalgamations but my preference would be a situation where loads of funding attained from HQ to promote the games particularly in primary schools, improve facilities to make GAA clubs an attractive option and see where that takes us. I would try and follow what has been happening in Dublin and use the fundfing precedent that has been set there.

I believe that for us to have a strong county team we need our largest populated area by a distance producing a good few really strong teams. St Galls had a period of dominance and got to one All Ireland and won another, they were an exceptional side at this time but them winning was not a reflection of the strength of Antrim football as a whole.

And as someone pointed out great to see McRory representation. A positive step.

We did manage as a county to get to an Ulster final and Ran Kerry close in that period, and mainly without Gall lads

We did indeed but that was one good year, we beat weak Donegal and Cavan teams before those two gallant failures. I know some counties are pretty successful without having outstanding club teams but we are sitting on a huge city population and I would like to see its potential maximised.

Cavan were weak that year but donegal weren't. They didn't play very well against us but most of that team won ai medals.

As minder said plenty of st galls guys on it. Sean kelly wasn't i think and maybe mcgourtys weren't but mclean, brady, healy o'neill, gallagher etc all there.

On a sidenote fm that team losing james loughrey has been a massive blow to us as ge could mix it with the best in ulster at least at that stage.

Ideally we would have a team brimming with players of that standard. Antrim county football will not be sorted overnight but to sort it we need to focus hard on our primary schools.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 18, 2016, 11:06:59 AM
Agree with that last statement the sooner we all realise that we are only scratching the surface of our true ability the quicker we get everthing ib place and hopefully a great county team.saff vis is now in year 2 and i hope i at least hear of them trying to secure adequate funding for coaching from hq.saff vis has had a 1 year( rome wasnt build etc) but year 2 and i think everyone needs to c some sort of growth.and dunsilly wasnt there baby.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 18, 2016, 10:16:28 PM
Few clubs changing manager this winter. Any news on appointments or who are the runners and riders?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 19, 2016, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 18, 2016, 10:16:28 PM
Few clubs changing manager this winter. Any news on appointments or who are the runners and riders?

Not a dickie bird, Portglenone are training already as far as I can hear!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 19, 2016, 10:44:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 19, 2016, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 18, 2016, 10:16:28 PM
Few clubs changing manager this winter. Any news on appointments or who are the runners and riders?

Not a dickie bird, Portglenone are training already as far as I can hear!

Jeez they are keen - time enough until Jan IMO but each to their own I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 19, 2016, 11:03:18 AM
39 Portglenone players out training their right arms on Saturday!! Tour of the Glens 12 pubs of Christmas so a few sore heads yesterday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 19, 2016, 12:27:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2016, 11:03:18 AM
39 Portglenone players out training their right arms on Saturday!! Tour of the Glens 12 pubs of Christmas so a few sore heads yesterday!

Do you know what the 12 pubs were?  I cannot think of 12 up that way unless of course you take in Larne and Ballycastle :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 19, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
Am thinking couple in Glenariffe, maybe 3 in Cushendall, couple in Carnlough and maybe the same in Glenarm and Cushendun - suppose that would not be too far off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 19, 2016, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 19, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
Am thinking couple in Glenariffe, maybe 3 in Cushendall, couple in Carnlough and maybe the same in Glenarm and Cushendun - suppose that would not be too far off.

Glenravel, Waterfoot, Carnlough, Cushendall & Ballycastle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 19, 2016, 03:50:09 PM
have attempted that before, it never ends well nor do you ever make most the places lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 19, 2016, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 19, 2016, 03:50:09 PM
have attempted that before, it never ends well nor do you ever make most the places lol

tried it once, was sick for a few days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 19, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
Plan was Half Way house between Bmena and Carnlough. Then Paddy Diamonds, Saffron or Mariners, Central, Johnny Joes, Marys, Hunters, O Connors or Central in Ballycastle and then Mushys Village Inn and poss Mullaghans in Rasharkin.

That was the plan but that didn't last long lol.

Back to the club for a few to finish off with a ballad group ...Shananigans from Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 19, 2016, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
Plan was Half Way house between Bmena and Carnlough. Then Paddy Diamonds, Saffron or Mariners, Central, Johnny Joes, Marys, Hunters, O Connors or Central in Ballycastle and then Mushys Village Inn and poss Mullaghans in Rasharkin.

That was the plan but that didn't last long lol.

Back to the club for a few to finish off with a ballad group ...Shananigans from Derry.

Sounds good. Plenty of GAA pubs there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 20, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 18, 2016, 10:16:28 PM
Few clubs changing manager this winter. Any news on appointments or who are the runners and riders?

Was out on Friday night in Belfast and was speaking to a few lads, Ballymena, Glenravel, Ahoghill all require new managers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
You would imagine whoever takes over both Ballymena and Glenravel should be looking at promotion handy enough. Ahoghill might have a bit more of a challenge on their hands.  Would it be fair to assume that all three would probably promote within their ranks?  I know Ballymena and Glenravel did the outside experiment recently without kicking on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 20, 2016, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
You would imagine whoever takes over both Ballymena and Glenravel should be looking at promotion handy enough. Ahoghill might have a bit more of a challenge on their hands.  Would it be fair to assume that all three would probably promote within their ranks?  I know Ballymena and Glenravel did the outside experiment recently without kicking on.

As I've said before, I work with a lad from Glenravel and he said the outside experiment didn't work at all. he is under the impression that there is decent men inside the club to take it on.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2016, 04:09:48 PM
Despite suggestions to the contrary and some rumours about JB is back in Cargin.
Believe he may have a change in his backroom staff.
Hear we have had several transfer requests inwards which may well be turned down..also hear Ger O'O Boyle is anticipating comeback .......but big Mc Kernan is away to Oz... :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2016, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
You would imagine whoever takes over both Ballymena and Glenravel should be looking at promotion handy enough. Ahoghill might have a bit more of a challenge on their hands.  Would it be fair to assume that all three would probably promote within their ranks?  I know Ballymena and Glenravel did the outside experiment recently without kicking on.

Ballymena will get it tight enough to go straight back up - the intermediate league is quite competitive. They aren't are an overly outstanding side to suggest promotion is a given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2016, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
You would imagine whoever takes over both Ballymena and Glenravel should be looking at promotion handy enough. Ahoghill might have a bit more of a challenge on their hands.  Would it be fair to assume that all three would probably promote within their ranks?  I know Ballymena and Glenravel did the outside experiment recently without kicking on.

Ballymena will get it tight enough to go straight back up - the intermediate league is quite competitive. They aren't are an overly outstanding side to suggest promotion is a given

I would have thought that division 2 is weaker now than the one Ballymena got promoted from with the subsequent restructuring. Ardoyne and Antrim will probably be straight back down. Endas and a couple of others will have their eye on promotion but Ballymena in my opinion are still a bit stronger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2016, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2016, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
You would imagine whoever takes over both Ballymena and Glenravel should be looking at promotion handy enough. Ahoghill might have a bit more of a challenge on their hands.  Would it be fair to assume that all three would probably promote within their ranks?  I know Ballymena and Glenravel did the outside experiment recently without kicking on.

Ballymena will get it tight enough to go straight back up - the intermediate league is quite competitive. They aren't are an overly outstanding side to suggest promotion is a given

I would have thought that division 2 is weaker now than the one Ballymena got promoted from with the subsequent restructuring. Ardoyne and Antrim will probably be straight back down. Endas and a couple of others will have their eye on promotion but Ballymena in my opinion are still a bit stronger.

the 2 places will be between Bmena, St Brigids, Glenavy + Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 21, 2016, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2016, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2016, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on December 20, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
You would imagine whoever takes over both Ballymena and Glenravel should be looking at promotion handy enough. Ahoghill might have a bit more of a challenge on their hands.  Would it be fair to assume that all three would probably promote within their ranks?  I know Ballymena and Glenravel did the outside experiment recently without kicking on.

Ballymena will get it tight enough to go straight back up - the intermediate league is quite competitive. They aren't are an overly outstanding side to suggest promotion is a given

I would have thought that division 2 is weaker now than the one Ballymena got promoted from with the subsequent restructuring. Ardoyne and Antrim will probably be straight back down. Endas and a couple of others will have their eye on promotion but Ballymena in my opinion are still a bit stronger.

the 2 places will be between Bmena, St Brigids, Glenavy + Moneyglass

Moneyglass started at a serious pace last year and fell away. Ballymena won't be far away but McVeigh being out could hurt them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 21, 2016, 11:25:24 AM
Nobody fancy St Enda's chances then?  I am sure that will sit fine with them.  Given their profile they should be on an upward trajectory and were not far away last year. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 21, 2016, 06:25:09 PM
Mglass cannot b as bad as last year,ballymena will go straight back up maybe brigids but st endas dont think it as bad as the league is there still lightweights and still to many streetwise teams like st pauls to chip points off them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 22, 2016, 03:50:22 PM
Moneyglass may well struggle next year......the Duffin bros are away to Aussie land, Ryan Boyd and Kevin Brady retired......may well take a couple of years for their youngsters to settle in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 25, 2016, 04:50:36 PM
Happy Christmas lads & ladies.. McCooey & Culchie alike!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 25, 2016, 05:53:24 PM
And the same to.u PJ.....










Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 30, 2016, 06:30:46 PM
Jes lads u got very quiet over crimbo.any new year res.on how to help antrim in a positive and productive manner?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on December 31, 2016, 12:20:15 PM
Can anyone from creggan explain why Armagh have two representatives in the Ulster club u21 competition and Antrim have none?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on December 31, 2016, 12:20:15 PM
Can anyone from creggan explain why Armagh have two representatives in the Ulster club u21 competition and Antrim have none?

No, can you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 01, 2017, 12:02:05 PM
Very good pocs and pints
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 04, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Anymore movements on the managerial front within clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 04, 2017, 05:47:33 PM
Only 1 heard was sean mc veighs da mickey is taking bmena
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Anymore movements on the managerial front within clubs?

Glenravel advertising today - will be interesting to see who they pull if the rumours about their hurling appointment are true - they are a club that seems to have been underachieving for the best part of 10 years so they have probably tried a few different approaches in that time to no avail so maybe time for a bit of box office?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 02:02:46 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 04, 2017, 05:47:33 PM
Only 1 heard was sean mc veighs da mickey is taking bmena

Never heard that - wonder how the sons would take to that - not always best having your Da manage though both are well enough established now to the point it should not matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 05, 2017, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Anymore movements on the managerial front within clubs?

Glenravel advertising today - will be interesting to see who they pull if the rumours about their hurling appointment are true - they are a club that seems to have been underachieving for the best part of 10 years so they have probably tried a few different approaches in that time to no avail so maybe time for a bit of box office?

As I've said before on here I work with a lad from Glenravel who would be quite open and honest in his opinions. Apparently the hurling job is a done deal but the football isn't looking likely anytime soon. They have underachieved apart from a JFC and a few promotions which were followed by relegation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 05, 2017, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Anymore movements on the managerial front within clubs?

Glenravel advertising today - will be interesting to see who they pull if the rumours about their hurling appointment are true - they are a club that seems to have been underachieving for the best part of 10 years so they have probably tried a few different approaches in that time to no avail so maybe time for a bit of box office?

As I've said before on here I work with a lad from Glenravel who would be quite open and honest in his opinions. Apparently the hurling job is a done deal but the football isn't looking likely anytime soon. They have underachieved apart from a JFC and a few promotions which were followed by relegation.

I remember Glenravel being nothing but a Div 1 football team for years and years.  A look at the club now and you see one of the most impressive setups in Antrim.  Granted a good well run club has more to offer than just what happens on the sporting field but does your mate consider wining a Junior Championship and getting promoted from Division 3 as a club that is achieving.  Will all due respect to Glenravel , the JFC and Div 3 I would say that they would probably view these things as a first step to where they would want to get back to.  If the hurling rumour is true then for me that shows an ambitious club and again if true fair play to them for pulling that one off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 05, 2017, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 05, 2017, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Anymore movements on the managerial front within clubs?

Glenravel advertising today - will be interesting to see who they pull if the rumours about their hurling appointment are true - they are a club that seems to have been underachieving for the best part of 10 years so they have probably tried a few different approaches in that time to no avail so maybe time for a bit of box office?

As I've said before on here I work with a lad from Glenravel who would be quite open and honest in his opinions. Apparently the hurling job is a done deal but the football isn't looking likely anytime soon. They have underachieved apart from a JFC and a few promotions which were followed by relegation.

I remember Glenravel being nothing but a Div 1 football team for years and years.  A look at the club now and you see one of the most impressive setups in Antrim.  Granted a good well run club has more to offer than just what happens on the sporting field but does your mate consider wining a Junior Championship and getting promoted from Division 3 as a club that is achieving.  Will all due respect to Glenravel , the JFC and Div 3 I would say that they would probably view these things as a first step to where they would want to get back to.  If the hurling rumour is true then for me that shows an ambitious club and again if true fair play to them for pulling that one off.

Like any club they want to be the best they can.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 06, 2017, 09:17:39 AM
Don't tend to hear a lot of rumours - half up to speed with what is happening back at my own club but even at that not living in the area I do not be talking to those in the know on a regular basis - all should become clear in the next couple of months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
I'm sure there is a few clubs trying to gain new players..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 06, 2017, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 06, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
I'm sure there is a few clubs trying to gain new players..

Id say you are right alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2017, 11:55:51 AM
Seems 2017 really is in with the new and out with the old on the county board, thanks for the effort and work Owen Elliot.

Another ex ref from Belfast on the S Vision CB to keep TR company.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 06, 2017, 03:13:09 PM
Heard that PJ......if true u can bet ur last penny that the Milltown Blues will be well pleased.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 06, 2017, 03:13:09 PM
Heard that PJ......if true u can bet ur last penny that the Milltown Blues will be well pleased.....

If we had Connelly and the Gouch we'd still struggle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2017, 11:00:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 06, 2017, 03:13:09 PM
Heard that PJ......if true u can bet ur last penny that the Milltown Blues will be well pleased.....

If we had Connelly and the Gouch we'd still struggle

Surely they both have family ties in St Galls, just like Mickey Pollock & The Burkes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2017, 11:55:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 06, 2017, 11:10:10 PM
Tbh, if you're to sleg St Galls about blow ins, you are really stretching it with the Burkes.

Who is slegging?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 06, 2017, 11:55:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 06, 2017, 11:10:10 PM
Tbh, if you're to sleg St Galls about blow ins, you are really stretching it with the Burkes.

Who is slegging?

What club are you from??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 08:23:27 AM
Even if some of the Belfast lads are transient surely there is some sort of balance for the country clubs in that they perhaps have a stronger association with one club. But to be fair it is not exclusive to city clubs, in fact far from it. Cargin and Glenravel won Championships last year with players transferred from other clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 08:28:15 AM
And Cloughmills won an Ulster in the hurling with certainly at least one prominent player from elsewhere though in that case the player that comes to mind probably had to move as his own side folded in terms of all county hurling. 

Maybe if clubs were actively recruiting the best talent from neighbouring clubs but then the clubs themselves are probably the ones that know the answer to that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.

Glenravel have always had a few from C'Dal, Glenarriffe & Carnlough playing for them. Neil McManus, played and won underage leagues with them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 09:58:46 AM
Mostly underage guys though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 09:58:46 AM
Mostly underage guys though?

There still is a few from the glens play for them at senior as far as I know. Could be 5/6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.

Glenravel have always had a few from C'Dal, Glenarriffe & Carnlough playing for them. Neil McManus, played and won underage leagues with them.

That surely would be fair enough though given they are the local football club. Did they not have an ex county player from elsewhere star for them this season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 09:58:46 AM
Mostly underage guys though?

I do remember playing against Belfast clubs at minor where guys were playing for them that had previously been at other city clubs and a few years later their minor teammates were turning out at senior elsewhere. I also know a couple of other lads who joined another top city side around that time, one from a country club and the other from a lower division city side. In both these cases neither had a huge impact for the club they joined. Such is life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.

Glenravel have always had a few from C'Dal, Glenarriffe & Carnlough playing for them. Neil McManus, played and won underage leagues with them.

That surely would be fair enough though given they are the local football club. Did they not have an ex county player from elsewhere star for them this season?

He's lived there for years though as I think he is married into a family there.

Same with Magill and Cargin as he lives there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.

Glenravel have always had a few from C'Dal, Glenarriffe & Carnlough playing for them. Neil McManus, played and won underage leagues with them.

That surely would be fair enough though given they are the local football club. Did they not have an ex county player from elsewhere star for them this season?

He's lived there for years though as I think he is married into a family there.

Same with Magill and Cargin as he lives there.

It's not like he lives 2 hour round trip!! Let's say he didn't move cause he lives there...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.

Glenravel have always had a few from C'Dal, Glenarriffe & Carnlough playing for them. Neil McManus, played and won underage leagues with them.

That surely would be fair enough though given they are the local football club. Did they not have an ex county player from elsewhere star for them this season?

He's lived there for years though as I think he is married into a family there.

Same with Magill and Cargin as he lives there.

It's not like he lives 2 hour round trip!! Let's say he didn't move cause he lives there...

Then why did he move there saying you know so much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 07, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
In a lot of cases for the country clubs when players transfer they have moved there. I don't think you would find too many, if any, from cargin / glenravel who don't actually live there...

The city and country club dynamic is just different really. I imagine it is the same in a lot of cities in ireland.

Glenravel have always had a few from C'Dal, Glenarriffe & Carnlough playing for them. Neil McManus, played and won underage leagues with them.

That surely would be fair enough though given they are the local football club. Did they not have an ex county player from elsewhere star for them this season?

He's lived there for years though as I think he is married into a family there.

Same with Magill and Cargin as he lives there.

It's not like he lives 2 hour round trip!! Let's say he didn't move cause he lives there...

Then why did he move there saying you know so much?

Cause he wanted to? Ambitious? Fall out with his club? All these things?? I don't know! But don't put it down to distance from previous club.... I'm further away from my club than Michael is.. decent lad met him a couple times, he's his reason and I wouldn't judge him either way... but the defensive shit that comes on here from the sw mob is laughable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 03:05:38 PM
A bit like yu and referee criticism mr ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 07, 2017, 03:05:38 PM
A bit like yu and referee criticism mr ;D

Depends on what hat I have on! Player manager or ref!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 07, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
Didnt realise magill was in cargin parish.must have moved fairly recently.mccarry has lived in gravel for 4 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 07, 2017, 08:44:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 07, 2017, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 07, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
mccarry has lived in gravel for 4 years
Is that concrete or just a rumour?

haha

Was surprised to see Big Marty stripping out for Glenravel. Didn't even know he had transferred until middle of the year. I think his is a different situation than Magill. Marty played his best days with his own club and is near the end of his senior playing days and transferred to where he is living.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2017, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 07, 2017, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 07, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
mccarry has lived in gravel for 4 years
Is that concrete or just a rumour?

I'd be mortar fied if true!



I'll get my coat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 07, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
He has lived there a while yes married to chairmans sister as far as I know.

Surprised none of the Belfast clubs didn't snap up Benny Hasson...he's away to Bredagh.... Travelling was the problem!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 08, 2017, 01:04:07 AM
Was travel the prob or does he see where rasharkin r heading
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 08, 2017, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 08, 2017, 01:04:07 AM
Was travel the prob or does he see where rasharkin r heading

Why where are they heading??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 08, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Pretty shite match today there. Some of the Tryone men on the St. Mary's team are on a different level. I thought Glenavy did a great job of hosting as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 08, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
Anybody know how many Back to the Future films there was?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2017, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 08, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Pretty shite match today there. Some of the Tryone men on the St. Mary's team are on a different level. I thought Glenavy did a great job of hosting as well.

Any of your lads get on the team?? Possibly not because of their Ulster exploits
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 08, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Anyone play well or show promise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 08, 2017, 11:09:48 PM
Think pj there headin div3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 08, 2017, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 08, 2017, 11:09:48 PM
Think pj there headin div3

Not so sure, people thought that last year and they ended up going well in the 2nd half of the league. I'd say the 2 that came up will be the 2 that go down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 09, 2017, 08:45:33 AM
2nd half of Antrim game was very entertaining, some excellent scores from both teams. Conor Hamill , delargy and Niblock were the pick of the Antrim players, with Conor Myler, Cathal McShane and Kieran McGeary all excellent for the Ranch. I thought it was a good enough game for the start of January. We failed to get to grip with the powerful running of Myler which cased us huge problems. A lot of frees missed was a concern. We looked a lot better after the introduction of Tomas and paddy McBride. Same problems keep raising their heads though, very slow and ponderous turning defence into attack, soft down the middle of defence and slow to react to situations on the field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 09, 2017, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2017, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 08, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Pretty shite match today there. Some of the Tryone men on the St. Mary's team are on a different level. I thought Glenavy did a great job of hosting as well.

Any of your lads get on the team?? Possibly not because of their Ulster exploits

4 named on the panel. Lenehan and McCann both started, Eunan Walsh came on in the second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 08, 2017, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 08, 2017, 11:09:48 PM
Think pj there headin div3

Not so sure, people thought that last year and they ended up going well in the 2nd half of the league. I'd say the 2 that came up will be the 2 that go down.

Agree  -while the two that went down will prob be straight back up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 09, 2017, 11:43:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 08, 2017, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 08, 2017, 11:09:48 PM
Think pj there headin div3

Not so sure, people thought that last year and they ended up going well in the 2nd half of the league. I'd say the 2 that came up will be the 2 that go down.

Agree  -while the two that went down will prob be straight back up.

You would think that Glenravel and Sarsfields would come up but I'm St Malachys, O'Donnells and St Agnes will have alot to say about that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 09, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 09, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
They might but before league reconstruction you were generally looking at 2 from 4 in that division. Now you are looking at 2 from 2 in my opinion. No disrespect to the rest but if Glenravel and Sarsfields cannot get back up they might as well forget about it.

Aye, I'd agree 100% with that. Both teams should be 2 strong for that league.

would tend to agree, tell you who are a club on an upward curve, Lisburn. Could see them push on in the next few years to be a good div 2 club.

Cant see Ardoyne getting relegated from Div 2 this year, good group of players and decent momentum from last year. could see them emulating Davitts this year with a good place finish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 09, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 09, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
They might but before league reconstruction you were generally looking at 2 from 4 in that division. Now you are looking at 2 from 2 in my opinion. No disrespect to the rest but if Glenravel and Sarsfields cannot get back up they might as well forget about it.

Aye, I'd agree 100% with that. Both teams should be 2 strong for that league.

would tend to agree, tell you who are a club on an upward curve, Lisburn. Could see them push on in the next few years to be a good div 2 club.

Cant see Ardoyne getting relegated from Div 2 this year, good group of players and decent momentum from last year. could see them emulating Davitts this year with a good place finish.

Always wondered about Lisburn, knew that they done serious work at underage.

Who will come down from Div2 in your opinion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 09, 2017, 04:29:57 PM
Div 2 standard is slipping but rkiran r not producing anyone.can only think of 1 decent player that has came through in the last 3 years once the old hands go thats it for them look a glenravel how much trouble they have getting back to where they were with  some good players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on January 09, 2017, 05:31:51 PM
Quote from: stiffler on January 05, 2017, 08:30:46 PM
Any players moving between clubs before the new season ?

Thought I was in the January Transfer Window thread there for a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on January 10, 2017, 12:35:01 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 08, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Pretty shite match today there. Some of the Tryone men on the St. Mary's team are on a different level. I thought Glenavy did a great job of hosting as well.

Good match for st Mary's, best team won. Myler great to watch. Antrim flattered the HT and FT scoreboard with the goals.

The pitch was in quare order, maybe the best in Antrim at this time of year.

The cutts car films are a trilogy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 10, 2017, 08:45:38 AM
Wow, that is some player contract St Brigids have, leaked on Twitter yesterday, im all for player commitment but that's just ridiculous in n amateur game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on January 10, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Its dublin, and its a load of bollocks. The issue is exactly that it is whats expected in lot of places, just when you see it written down in black and white you realise what a load of absolute bollocks it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 10, 2017, 02:00:14 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 10, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Its dublin, and its a load of bollocks. The issue is exactly that it is whats expected in lot of places, just when you see it written down in black and white you realise what a load of absolute bollocks it is.

I've heard tell of a manager of a Div2 Antrim club team handing out fines to players about content on the teams whatsapp group, and if they didn't pay the said fine, they didn't play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2017, 09:52:25 AM
most of that stuff isn't unusual for teams to do but ive never seen it on paper to be signed by a player.

i think its been blown out of proportion on social media because plenty of teams have rules laid out for the year ahead for what time training starts, what time you need to be there, wear club gear etc etc. It just looks bad with the player having to sign the thing at the bottom and people are saying its a 'contract'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on January 11, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 10, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Its dublin, and its a load of bollocks. The issue is exactly that it is whats expected in lot of places, just when you see it written down in black and white you realise what a load of absolute bollocks it is.

It is an Lob.

All any senior club team wants is a good corporate structure, tactical management, willing teammates, juvenile player development, billiard field preparation, snazzy rigs and halfzips, matchday nutrition and a vocal crowd

I have this one sussed...
All a club want from a player is commitment, loyalty and hard work.

Fines should be limited to:
Committee members not selling fixed quota of lotto tickets
Any player or referee being late
Goalkeeper not keeping clean sheets
Defense not blocking shots
Midfielders not catching
Offense not scoring quota
Any player who puts the sliotar out of the ground - or the ball
Tea ladies presenting cold tea and soggy sandwiches
Kit lady not using lenor
Pitch lines not being straight
Water boys running out of water
Referee for each wrong decision
Umpires when wrongly biased
Linesmen if the don't keep the other coaches in check
Facilities man if showers too hot
Chairman if sponsor doesn't throw enough subs into the stand
Scor committee if no halftime entertainment
Manager for not giving post match summary in the stand
Any supporter rubbishing the team or criticising any official

Supporters get free entry if no stand

PS Load of bollocks

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/gaa-club-asks-team-sign-contract-view-children/108944?utm_content=buffer95086&utm_medium=Social+organic&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
 ;D love this piss take on it lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C11ez0WXAAADLoy.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 11, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 09, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 09, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
They might but before league reconstruction you were generally looking at 2 from 4 in that division. Now you are looking at 2 from 2 in my opinion. No disrespect to the rest but if Glenravel and Sarsfields cannot get back up they might as well forget about it.

Aye, I'd agree 100% with that. Both teams should be 2 strong for that league.

would tend to agree, tell you who are a club on an upward curve, Lisburn. Could see them push on in the next few years to be a good div 2 club.

Cant see Ardoyne getting relegated from Div 2 this year, good group of players and decent momentum from last year. could see them emulating Davitts this year with a good place finish.

Always wondered about Lisburn, knew that they done serious work at underage.

Who will come down from Div2 in your opinion?

Could be tight at the bottom of Div 2 i think PJ, think Antrim may struggle coming up a step, seen them a few times last year think at the start of the year they had a few problems but finished well. not even close to Ardoyne who also came up so think they'll struggle.

the other team i think will take the drop would be Rasharkin, think they're playing a waiting game, not much coming through from the few times I've seen them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 11, 2017, 03:25:57 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 11, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 09, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 09, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
They might but before league reconstruction you were generally looking at 2 from 4 in that division. Now you are looking at 2 from 2 in my opinion. No disrespect to the rest but if Glenravel and Sarsfields cannot get back up they might as well forget about it.

Aye, I'd agree 100% with that. Both teams should be 2 strong for that league.

would tend to agree, tell you who are a club on an upward curve, Lisburn. Could see them push on in the next few years to be a good div 2 club.

Cant see Ardoyne getting relegated from Div 2 this year, good group of players and decent momentum from last year. could see them emulating Davitts this year with a good place finish.

Always wondered about Lisburn, knew that they done serious work at underage.

Who will come down from Div2 in your opinion?

Could be tight at the bottom of Div 2 i think PJ, think Antrim may struggle coming up a step, seen them a few times last year think at the start of the year they had a few problems but finished well. not even close to Ardoyne who also came up so think they'll struggle.

the other team i think will take the drop would be Rasharkin, think they're playing a waiting game, not much coming through from the few times I've seen them.

Hard to argue with any of that to be honest. Agree that Antrim will struggle, but its great for them to be playing Div2 football. Ardoyne could cause a suprise or 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
rasharkin had no minor team last season and im not sure if they have one this season. They could struggle in the years to come like what we did until it becomes more stable and they can field at every grade each week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 12, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 11, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
rasharkin had no minor team last season and im not sure if they have one this season. They could struggle in the years to come like what we did until it becomes more stable and they can field at every grade each week.

We have a Minor team this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2017, 09:00:00 AM
good to hear. I would of been shocked if they hadnt one what with you having a decent U16 team last season. Will then hurling still struggling as bad do you think this year again RG?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 13, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
As you know we have some fine juvenile hurlers, just don't have the numbers interested to field teams at the moment. Some lads sanctioned last year to Dunloy, but we are in the middle of discussions at present with other clubs over forming an amalgamation at Juvenile hurling level, see what comes from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 13, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 13, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
As you know we have some fine juvenile hurlers, just don't have the numbers interested to field teams at the moment. Some lads sanctioned last year to Dunloy, but we are in the middle of discussions at present with other clubs over forming an amalgamation at Juvenile hurling level, see what comes from that.

What clubs or can u say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 15, 2017, 04:15:32 PM
Some day forthe footballers and hurlers i know its only january and trying new things but i have a feeling its going to b a long year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 15, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 15, 2017, 04:15:32 PM
Some day forthe footballers and hurlers i know its only january and trying new things but i have a feeling its going to b a long year
What a sad day up at Glenavy Galer.........little to recommend the new boys and hard to be optimistic......but seems the visionaries are not t all interested in the football.....looked around and did not see one of those who had the Saffron Vision at either Mc Kenna cup game... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 15, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 15, 2017, 04:15:32 PM
Some day forthe footballers and hurlers i know its only january and trying new things but i have a feeling its going to b a long year
What a sad day up at Glenavy Galer.........little to recommend the new boys and hard to be optimistic......but seems the visionaries are not t all interested in the football.....looked around and did not see one of those who had the Saffron Vision at either Mc Kenna cup game... ???

If they were there would we have played any better?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 15, 2017, 08:22:58 PM
Prob because the management are one of the last reminders of the previous era.J.Murrays last cruel joke on antrim football.no offence to the 2 men.Good honest county men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 15, 2017, 09:32:30 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 15, 2017, 08:22:58 PM
Prob because the management are one of the last reminders of the previous era.J.Murrays last cruel joke on antrim football.no offence to the 2 men.Good honest county men
Or maybe we are just not good enuf ........ ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on January 15, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
County Chairman was at the game in Glenavy today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 15, 2017, 09:58:41 PM
Any one impress today for Antrim?

I hear mc Garry showed well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 10:13:36 PM
Quote from: jdyok on January 15, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
County Chairman was at the game in Glenavy today.

Don't believe you!! If CB said he had a look around and didn't see anyone I believe him!! Come on man!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 16, 2017, 08:02:50 AM
Cb If we look at fermanagh a few years ago and what mcgrath has done with a limited pool,im not asking for miracles all im askin is that we are competive.there was players playin yesterday didnt even make there club side regularly last year.why r they fightin to get rid of m mccann so much when he is still one of the top players within the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on January 16, 2017, 09:51:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 13, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
As you know we have some fine juvenile hurlers, just don't have the numbers interested to field teams at the moment. Some lads sanctioned last year to Dunloy, but we are in the middle of discussions at present with other clubs over forming an amalgamation at Juvenile hurling level, see what comes from that.

What clubs or can u say?

Better say nothing at the moment PJ, nothing certain yet and I won't want to jump the gun, but there does seem to be a fair number of other Sw clubs struggling with Juvenile hurling as well as us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 16, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 16, 2017, 09:51:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on January 13, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
As you know we have some fine juvenile hurlers, just don't have the numbers interested to field teams at the moment. Some lads sanctioned last year to Dunloy, but we are in the middle of discussions at present with other clubs over forming an amalgamation at Juvenile hurling level, see what comes from that.

What clubs or can u say?

Better say nothing at the moment PJ, nothing certain yet and I won't want to jump the gun, but there does seem to be a fair number of other Sw clubs struggling with Juvenile hurling as well as us.

Seems to be a few struggling between the UN14-minor level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 17, 2017, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 10:13:36 PM
Quote from: jdyok on January 15, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
County Chairman was at the game in Glenavy today.

Don't believe you!! If CB said he had a look around and didn't see anyone I believe him!! Come on man!!
Possibly missed the appearance of the chairman MR2, but as I told you before and as a wise man said ' sarcasm is the lowest form of wit' but hey as a ref of some stature I hear, and indeed as a city dweller....you can be forgiven.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs

I thought you would of been keen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs

I thought you would of been keen

I'm keen to referee every week but I'll just ref the games I get or can, it's just a case of putting something back in!! I've played (continue to) for 34 years without refs (good or bad) I wouldn't have the memories I have!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 17, 2017, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs

I thought you would of been keen

I'm keen to referee every week but I'll just ref the games I get or can, it's just a case of putting something back in!! I've played (continue to) for 34 years without refs (good or bad) I wouldn't have the memories I have!
Need friends in high places to get the top jobs I fear...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 17, 2017, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs

I thought you would of been keen

I'm keen to referee every week but I'll just ref the games I get or can, it's just a case of putting something back in!! I've played (continue to) for 34 years without refs (good or bad) I wouldn't have the memories I have!
Need friends in high places to get the top jobs I fear...

I don't know about that, if you put yourself out there and get a decent name about you you should get the games if you want them... scrutiny on refs is right we are assessed/monitored and the support is great to be honest...

They have a good system that the refs have to pass all exams and fitness tests to ref championships.. so hopefully that continues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on January 17, 2017, 09:37:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs

I thought you would of been keen

I'm keen to referee every week but I'll just ref the games I get or can, it's just a case of putting something back in!! I've played (continue to) for 34 years without refs (good or bad) I wouldn't have the memories I have!

Where'd ya play for 34 years without refs?!  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 11:05:54 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on January 17, 2017, 09:37:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Some stature - that's a dig.
;D

Hey !!!

Surely you're next in line of a county final of some sorts MR2? Top ref that you are

Not into that stuff at all, I'm happy doing a div 4 game as doing a div 1 game! Never did a championship game last year either... plenty of better refs

I thought you would of been keen

I'm keen to referee every week but I'll just ref the games I get or can, it's just a case of putting something back in!! I've played (continue to) for 34 years without refs (good or bad) I wouldn't have the memories I have!

Where'd ya play for 34 years without refs?!  :o

Mayo  ;)

Punctuation can make you look silly !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 11:43:34 PM
Awful news coming out of creggan tonight involving 2 kids in a car crash, hopefully they'll pull through and gaels around the county will keep them in our prayers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2017, 07:44:18 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 17, 2017, 11:43:34 PM
Awful news coming out of creggan tonight involving 2 kids in a car crash, hopefully they'll pull throw and gaels around the county will keep them in our prayers.

Heard that, break your heart!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 18, 2017, 08:55:39 PM
When the Antrim job was up for discussion there was little to split Antrim and Fermanagh in the ratings. Pete Mc Grath made his interest known in the Antrim job and didn't even get the courtesy of an acknowledgement. I'd say he is taking some enjoyment with each and every score!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 08:55:59 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 18, 2017, 08:41:48 PM
Ferm 0-11 Antrim nathin at HT :o

Big wind maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 18, 2017, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 18, 2017, 08:55:39 PM
When the Antrim job was up for discussion there was little to split Antrim and Fermanagh in the ratings. Pete Mc Grath made his interest known in the Antrim job and didn't even get the courtesy of an acknowledgement. I'd say he is taking some enjoyment with each and every score!

All joking aside, would it make much difference if they had Pete McGrath, Mickey Harte or Jim Gavin
Seriously ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
No improvement made whatsoever on the pitch with the footballers and people leaving/getting pushed of the CCC, a county board job offered to member of the casement social club..

Future is bright. Bring back Jim Murray.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 18, 2017, 10:11:10 PM
If you were on county executive PJ what would you do to improve what's happening on the pitch, in the case of Antrim senior footballers? I'm not trying to be clever here.Just genuinely interested in what you would do / think board should do. Question open to anyone with a constructive view?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 18, 2017, 10:11:10 PM
If you were on county executive PJ what would you do to improve what's happening on the pitch, in the case of Antrim senior footballers? I'm not trying to be clever here.Just genuinely interested in what you would do / think board should do. Question open to anyone with a constructive view?

I honestly don't know BS. I just think we are slipping into the old rut of jobs for boys and accepting s**t!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 18, 2017, 10:55:06 PM
Not a good set of McKenna Cup results by any means. Have to declare I saw none of the games so maybe unfair to comment too much.

And after all its staying up in Div 3 that really matters, but we are a long way off any chance of consecutive promotions as happened last time we got out of Div 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on January 19, 2017, 12:18:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 10:40:42 PM

I honestly don't know BS. I just think we are slipping into the old rut of jobs for boys and accepting s**t!


A constructive view was asked for, there is nothing constructive in your criticism.

The following is a question for all the recurring criticising slabbers:

What's your idea of what one of these boys 'jobs' entail ?
- Monthly hours - meetings, travel, homework, phone calls, etc
- Expenses - travel, mileage, a commendation, meals, subsistence
- Remuneration, hourly rate, overtime rates, etc
- Performance-related bonus
- Benefits in kind
- Holiday and time off entitlement
- Perks

Wonder if any will answer honestly...

There is no point crying about little support from the Antrim public, the ulster council, and certainly not at lack of funding from croker. Money from Dublin will not sort out antrim gaa, and neither is there any cavalry coming from other counties.

The issues can only be sorted out within Antrim, how many gaels are actually helping and not criticising ?
Empowerment will bring success.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 19, 2017, 07:44:33 AM
Nicely worded spake there.Football in Antrim is in free fall.dont care how u put it money is needed to help the situation.i am a saff vision sceptic myself but will give them the benefit of time as even alan sugar couldnt sort out the mess antrim are in.it will  take another 2/3 years for any small change to happen.its no secret i do not think the antrim senior managemebt are out if there depth but what really annoys me is u21 management remained after showing so much bious towards there own
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 19, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
Anyone who is expecting an upturn on the playing side due to the SV crowd being in power for one year is living in cloud cuckoo land.  I would say the first thing that needed addressed was the administration within the county and they would be doing well to have that addressed at this stage.  Then you focus on your sporting side - not the other way around.  It is childish in my opinion to blame the SV crowd for current sporting failures.  I am not saying they will def get it right but it is way too soon to be judging.  Anyhow, I believe for Antrim to have any chance it is a long road and involves serious intervention in all primary schools in the county from P1 level upward.  Any money going about at all should be focused on our primary schools.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 10:19:22 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 09:47:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
a county board job offered to member of the casement social club..
:o
Outrage.

Sarcasm isn't really needed here to be honest.

A member of the CCC left/was pushed or whatever, he as far as I know hasn't been replaced despite offering the job to 2 men who both turned it down, one of these being a member of the social club which, correct me if I'm wrong, was one of the hold ups of the Old/New Casement saga.

Surely with out a CCC we can't do fixtures or championship draws which in turn will hold up things starting.

I've never once said that the SV concern will get it fixed with the first couple of years of them being in office but the jury is very much out on them at present. When things are correct in the boardroom so to speak, through times things will hopefully start to turn around on the pitch.

Maybe I am being a criticising slabber by voicing my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 10:40:25 AM
I have no idea what the individual's membership of Casement Social Club has to do with it. Are all members of the club now to have nothing to do with Antrim GAA? Is it a prerequisite of being on our county executive that you had to be a supporter of any plan or idea that the Ulster Council had for Casement Park?

There are a handful of bitter individuals who hold personal grudges against members of Casement Social Club, mainly because they ended up embarrassed and had to step back with their tails between their legs following a completely deluded & unlawful power trip ended badly. Perhaps one of them has your ear.

No ear bending here pal.

I just want a county team and a county set up that I can be proud of. Are you happy seeing the county in a negative light across the Irish News?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
Absolutely not and as a county, we have a hell of a lot of work to do.

Agree 100%.. but how can we as a county move on when everything is a negative both on and off the pitch? I hold my hands up and admit some of my posts are negative but I'm calling things as I see them and that at the minute is an embarrassment. Not scoring for a half of football? Shocking.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 19, 2017, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
Absolutely not and as a county, we have a hell of a lot of work to do.

Agree 100%.. but how can we as a county move on when everything is a negative both on and off the pitch? I hold my hands up and admit some of my posts are negative but I'm calling things as I see them and that at the minute is an embarrassment. Not scoring for a half of football? Shocking.

Yeah it is pure pish and shows how far off we are but nothing has really changed in the 40 odd years I have been following Antrim GAA - same old shite, good footballers in the county but no county team, inferiority complex passed down through the generations, open door policies at training, underage face fit policy and so it goes on and on and on and on.  Radical change needs to be implemented and the only hope we have is to start at the very bottom.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 19, 2017, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
Absolutely not and as a county, we have a hell of a lot of work to do.

Agree 100%.. but how can we as a county move on when everything is a negative both on and off the pitch? I hold my hands up and admit some of my posts are negative but I'm calling things as I see them and that at the minute is an embarrassment. Not scoring for a half of football? Shocking.

Yeah it is pure pish and shows how far off we are but nothing has really changed in the 40 odd years I have been following Antrim GAA - same old shite, good footballers in the county but no county team, inferiority complex passed down through the generations, open door policies at training, underage face fit policy and so it goes on and on and on and on.  Radical change needs to be implemented and the only hope we have is to start at the very bottom.

It's impossible to argue with any word of that to be honest. Some people in our county want to take what they can from the GAA and others want to give what they can to GAA. 

Don't speak out of turn against the county, you'll be accused of being a slabber.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
Absolutely not and as a county, we have a hell of a lot of work to do.

Agree 100%.. but how can we as a county move on when everything is a negative both on and off the pitch? I hold my hands up and admit some of my posts are negative but I'm calling things as I see them and that at the minute is an embarrassment. Not scoring for a half of football? Shocking.

Glad you admitted that, now be positive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
Absolutely not and as a county, we have a hell of a lot of work to do.

Agree 100%.. but how can we as a county move on when everything is a negative both on and off the pitch? I hold my hands up and admit some of my posts are negative but I'm calling things as I see them and that at the minute is an embarrassment. Not scoring for a half of football? Shocking.


F
Glad you admitted that, now be positive

Feck aff you..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 19, 2017, 10:28:43 PM
A very bad few days getting tanked by well oiled machines Monaghan and Fermanagh who under MOR and Pete Mc Grath have developed an culture where players are intensely proud to represent their county. I know it's "only" the Mc Kenna cup but pride is pride and whilst other counties make a genuine attempt to win the competition, we trot out the line we are using the competition to try out a few youngsters.

The real event starts in a few weeks and Antrim supporters expect us to be very competitive in all our division 3 games and avoid relegation. Do that and the year will be deemed a success. But anything less than that will be called for what it is. Let's hope it's the former!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 19, 2017, 10:28:43 PM
A very bad few days getting tanked by well oiled machines Monaghan and Fermanagh who under MOR and Pete Mc Grath have developed an culture where players are intensely proud to represent their county. I know it's "only" the Mc Kenna cup but pride is pride and whilst other counties make a genuine attempt to win the competition, we trot out the line we are using the competition to try out a few youngsters.

The real event starts in a few weeks and Antrim supporters expect us to be very competitive in all our division 3 games and avoid relegation. Do that and the year will be deemed a success. But anything less than that will be called for what it is. Let's hope it's the former!

How can we change the lack of, physically, tactics, cuteness, heart, pride and serious lack of confidence that follows us like a bad smell?? There have been a few periods over the years that we slumped that bad but managed to show signs of improvement briefly only to look awful again??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 19, 2017, 10:28:43 PM
A very bad few days getting tanked by well oiled machines Monaghan and Fermanagh who under MOR and Pete Mc Grath have developed an culture where players are intensely proud to represent their county. I know it's "only" the Mc Kenna cup but pride is pride and whilst other counties make a genuine attempt to win the competition, we trot out the line we are using the competition to try out a few youngsters.

The real event starts in a few weeks and Antrim supporters expect us to be very competitive in all our division 3 games and avoid relegation. Do that and the year will be deemed a success. But anything less than that will be called for what it is. Let's hope it's the former!

There's the problem it's "only" the McKenna cup.. soon it'll be "only" the league then it'll be sure it's Donegal, then it'll be somebody else in the backdoor and it's see you later 2017..

Our target should of been getting a win in the McKenna Cup and building on it, instead we've lost 3 on the bounce with maybe 2 decent halfs of football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2017, 08:40:29 AM
When a team gets a few tankings it can be hard to recover the lost confidence that comes from that. The Mc Kenna cup might not be that important in the wider picture but you'd still want to be coming out of it in reasonable shape (mentally and physically) for the bigger tests which are coming up in the Spring. We can't say that. And it's not that we had dozens out playing for the universities.

We have a lot of work to do but one win early doors in the league might settle things down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
To be honest theres probably 3 tiers in ulster. Tyrone/Donegal/Derry then onto Monaghan/Armagh/Down/Fermanagh/Cavan and then sadly Antrim at the bottom. We have been a 2 game championship team for the last few years bar the odd 3 game miracle that comes along once in a blue moon. The McKenna cup only proves what we already all knew ourselves.

We simply are not good enough at the moment to compete against the best teams in the province. Its maybe time we sat up and stopped blaming SV, schools etc etc and realised that we haven't just got the footballers to take us where we want to go.

Im not hating on the players, the county, SV, the clubs etc its simply a case of fact. Its how we deal with it now to try and address big problem that we currently have. It wont be sorted in the short term, rather its something that has to be a long term goal thats instigated.

Antrim hurling has accepted it is where it deserves to be and it has been trying (well, unsuccessfully so far) to try and right the wrongs that it finds itself in but its an on going battle.

I only say that because there are some who somehow seem surprised each year where we find ourselves, who cant understand why we underachieve or mention the line 'we have great club teams'.  We are where deserve to be, its how we address the problem to get out of the current position to one we want to be in. I get as disappoint as the next fan does when i see our results and the consistent failures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 20, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
Hopefully our U 21's can give the County something to cheer about this Sunday in the Ulster Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 20, 2017, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 20, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
To be honest theres probably 3 tiers in ulster. Tyrone/Donegal/Derry then onto Monaghan/Armagh/Down/Fermanagh/Cavan and then sadly Antrim at the bottom. We have been a 2 game championship team for the last few years bar the odd 3 game miracle that comes along once in a blue moon. The McKenna cup only proves what we already all knew ourselves.

We simply are not good enough at the moment to compete against the best teams in the province. Its maybe time we sat up and stopped blaming SV, schools etc etc and realised that we haven't just got the footballers to take us where we want to go.

Im not hating on the players, the county, SV, the clubs etc its simply a case of fact. Its how we deal with it now to try and address big problem that we currently have. It wont be sorted in the short term, rather its something that has to be a long term goal thats instigated.

Antrim hurling has accepted it is where it deserves to be and it has been trying (well, unsuccessfully so far) to try and right the wrongs that it finds itself in but its an on going battle.

I only say that because there are some who somehow seem surprised each year where we find ourselves, who cant understand why we underachieve or mention the line 'we have great club teams'.  We are where deserve to be, its how we address the problem to get out of the current position to one we want to be in. I get as disappoint as the next fan does when i see our results and the consistent failures.

While I keep stating that I believe we have to begin right at the bottom with investment of effort in our primary schools and try and build ourselves up from there that is a very different thing to criticizing the schools.  I believe that we need structures in place that see all kids getting a good level of coaching every week and appropriate tournaments/blitzes on a regular basis.  If you talk to teachers I am sure they would be delighted to have some additional intervention coming into the schools as opposed to taking the hump and thinking you were criticizing what they are currently doing.  I know teachers are famous for complaining but in this instance you would essentially be giving additional help - one of the major complaints from teachers is that they do not have enough additional help in the form of classroom assistants etc to deal with all prevailing needs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 20, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
Its all very simple.  For long term gain you put the structures and manhours in at underage level right from training, refereeing, schools, leagues etc etc etc

For initial results you do what any good practitioner does and that is you employ the best person available for the job to get the best out of what you have.

Can Antrim say they have done either of the two things above?  The answer is a categorical No.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
I was talking to a man last night who said he would bet his life savings that the current Cargin team would beat the current Antrim team!

Whether that's right or wrong no one will know but for some reason there seems to be far too many of our countys players missing from the squad. I can think of at least a dozen players I would have in there. Why are so many not committing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
I was talking to a man last night who said he would bet his life savings that the current Cargin team would beat the current Antrim team!

Whether that's right or wrong no one will know but for some reason there seems to be far too many of our countys players missing from the squad. I can think of at least a dozen players I would have in there. Why are so many not committing?

He'd lose, they said that when we had a good team too...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2017, 08:33:20 AM
It is becoming widespread at intercounty level bs. The commitment levels even for division 3 etc are massive.  Only the top few teams really have full commitment across their county with their best players available.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 21, 2017, 08:51:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
I was talking to a man last night who said he would bet his life savings that the current Cargin team would beat the current Antrim team!

Whether that's right or wrong no one will know but for some reason there seems to be far too many of our countys players missing from the squad. I can think of at least a dozen players I would have in there. Why are so many not committing?

He'd lose, they said that when we had a good team too...
So you do not like Cargin MR2 even in the hypothetical....glad we will not be seeing you strutting your stuff in the middle at Toome any time soon :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2017, 10:28:06 AM
The problem we seem to have is that everyone wants to be playing...or getting significant gametime.  We had a couple of players who were on the fringes last year who simply said the huge commitment is not worth the effort. As a result they will put 100% into the club....and probably play better too now that they will be fresh and their confidence is back.

A good club player who makes a county panel - but realistically sees little gametime, will often return to their clubs in worse shape than they left and most of this is due to loss of confidence. I've seen it so many times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 21, 2017, 08:51:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
I was talking to a man last night who said he would bet his life savings that the current Cargin team would beat the current Antrim team!

Whether that's right or wrong no one will know but for some reason there seems to be far too many of our countys players missing from the squad. I can think of at least a dozen players I would have in there. Why are so many not committing?

He'd lose, they said that when we had a good team too...
So you do not like Cargin MR2 even in the hypothetical....glad we will not be seeing you strutting your stuff in the middle at Toome any time soon :D

Are you drunk?? Where in my post or any post did I say I don't like Cargin??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2017, 12:40:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2017, 10:28:06 AM
The problem we seem to have is that everyone wants to be playing...or getting significant gametime.  We had a couple of players who were on the fringes last year who simply said the huge commitment is not worth the effort. As a result they will put 100% into the club....and probably play better too now that they will be fresh and their confidence is back.

A good club player who makes a county panel - but realistically sees little gametime, will often return to their clubs in worse shape than they left and most of this is due to loss of confidence. I've seen it so many times.

Very true bs and you would ask if sitting on the bench makes it worth their time.

Even the likes of tyrone have guys who drop off panels due to commitment for lack of gametime. If that happens in successful counties it will certainly happen in ours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 21, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
Depressing reading in here already and it is only January. I agree with people about getting coaching into the Primary Schools. Too many schools aren't getting access to coaches. The coaches within the County are stretched too far as it is and need far more support. 

I was very surprised to hear that the fellas who have been training with the senior panel haven't received any gear as of yet. Even if boys don't make it onto the league panel surely a t-shirt and a pair of shorts should have been given to them. Why is everything half assed in Antrim? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 22, 2017, 12:12:28 AM
I know there is the odd player who would/should drop off a panel but if things are done fair and the team are progressing,things are professional and there are genuine competion for places not just token gestures lads would put there heart and soul into it .but with antrim the management seem to prefer certain players and then there clubmen/mates.like there is at least 2 men on the panel couldnt make there own club team.7/8 u21s on panel ensures that they havent a chance,that said they will pull in the st endas lads 2 weeks before champ(as they did last year).so neither team making headway.why did they retire mmccann?,is there anyone else to comeback? And why is the current panel full of 2nd rate fballers? There are at least 15 better footballers not even on panel.abd what was the half team abt the other nite? "Sort it out urselves lads we are away our here" was the quote i was told
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 22, 2017, 12:27:25 AM
Its hard to be positive when all you see in front of you is shit and contuining to be.for the last 40/50/60 years bar a couple of glimmers of hope it has been when we start to make progress we then revert to type.take bakers first term he took us to an ulster final and he was no micko or paidie or harte.we had a chance to build on it and what happens? We mess abt, bring back baker let him overstay and part of the management team manipulate the situation to get there feet under the table.a management who havent managed a champonship winning side(same applies to u21s as well).if u want to b successful in any warp of life you get tge right people in .time for sv to cut the crap and give something,even an underage structure/plan.even a plan to develop more coaches for schools just a f**king crumb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 12:37:13 AM
Quote from: Galer on January 22, 2017, 12:27:25 AM
Its hard to be positive when all you see in front of you is shit and contuining to be.for the last 40/50/60 years bar a couple of glimmers of hope it has been when we start to make progress we then revert to type.take bakers first term he took us to an ulster final and he was no micko or paidie or harte.we had a chance to build on it and what happens? We mess abt, bring back baker let him overstay and part of the management team manipulate the situation to get there feet under the table.a management who havent managed a champonship winning side(same applies to u21s as well).if u want to b successful in any warp of life you get tge right people in .time for sv to cut the crap and give something,even an underage structure/plan.even a plan to develop more coaches for schools just a f**king crumb

So you are aware it's not a particular committee that's responsible... it's a chronic position that Antrim has found itself and hopefully with structures put in place then it can start afresh... but the skull has said on so many times unless we have the trained/coached volunteers to implement this vision we will be where we are at!!?

Our playing standards are where we are at, we don't have the dedication skill levels or player input than other counties habe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 22, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
We do have the players to compete (mostly not on the current panel) but to be successful in terms of winning ulsters we are miles away and id agree that we need coaches who are of certain standard (i do not currently know any half decent coaches currently involved in the underage set up but i am open to correction) it seems to be someones da/mate who takes them.i know pd does a lot of good work and needs help.Two st galls lad made an attempt to b minor managers last year are they involved in coaching any development team .top players ex county players and top coaches have plenty to offer are these people involved or even approached.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 22, 2017, 10:16:23 AM
And im aware karl mc cabe is involved before im ate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 22, 2017, 07:00:51 PM
Of course Cargin would have beaten that Antrim side which lost at Fermanagh on Wed nite last Bannside and I have absolutely no doubt that several Antrim division one sides would also have done the same.
Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half.............and indeed if Tomas Mc Cann hadn't been involved perhaps we wouldn't have scored at all. :-[
Fermanagh have a population of 60.000.......Antrim have 600,000.......


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 22, 2017, 07:00:51 PM
Of course Cargin would have beaten that Antrim side which lost at Fermanagh on Wed nite last Bannside and I have absolutely no doubt that several Antrim division one sides would also have done the same.
Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half.............and indeed if Tomas Mc Cann hadn't been involved perhaps we wouldn't have scored at all. :-[
Fermanagh have a population of 60.000.......Antrim have 600,000.......

Let's not be to critical..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2017, 08:50:47 AM
i wouldnt say there isnt good investment in the all of the primary schools with regards to gaelic games. My nephew plays hurling and football for our primary school and they are constantly playing tournaments, one in football last weekend as it happens that was organised by Cloughmills primary school.

The other week they were all in Our Lady of Lourdes HS in Ballymoney where woody took them and other PS's for a hurling coaching session. There is good work being done at PS level but it needs more support from the top level in the county to continue what work is being done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 23, 2017, 09:55:18 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2017, 08:50:47 AM
i wouldnt say there isnt good investment in the all of the primary schools with regards to gaelic games. My nephew plays hurling and football for our primary school and they are constantly playing tournaments, one in football last weekend as it happens that was organised by Cloughmills primary school.

The other week they were all in Our Lady of Lourdes HS in Ballymoney where woody took them and other PS's for a hurling coaching session. There is good work being done at PS level but it needs more support from the top level in the county to continue what work is being done

With good investment that could be rolled out to every primary school in the county where every kid right down to P1 is getting at least a couple of hours coaching every week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.

Casement? Soaking wet Saturday... jeepers it was poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
That was it. Definitely a Saturday game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.

:-[ please let us never speak of that game again, that was depressing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.

:-[ please let us never speak of that game again, that was depressing.

Shocking. Surely some improvement has been made recently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.

:-[ please let us never speak of that game again, that was depressing.

Shocking. Surely some improvement has been made recently.

Nope, even an upsurge in sw talent it seems we are still stuck at that level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.

:-[ please let us never speak of that game again, that was depressing.

Shocking. Surely some improvement has been made recently.

Nope, even an upsurge in sw talent it seems we are still stuck at that level

Suppose still city men in charge if you wanna go down that route and be a d**k.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 24, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 22, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
We do have the players to compete (mostly not on the current panel) but to be successful in terms of winning ulsters we are miles away and id agree that we need coaches who are of certain standard (i do not currently know any half decent coaches currently involved in the underage set up but i am open to correction) it seems to be someones da/mate who takes them.i know pd does a lot of good work and needs help.Two st galls lad made an attempt to b minor managers last year are they involved in coaching any development team .top players ex county players and top coaches have plenty to offer are these people involved or even approached.
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Are you aware of all the coaches working with these groups? From what I can see there are some  good coaches working at trying to improve standards of our developmental groups. Also in your view what constitutes a half decent coach?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
"Please somebody tell me when was the last 'county team' which failed to raise a flag for the duration of a full half"

I think we went a half without scoring against Roscommon in a Div 3 match under the inglorious reign of Frank Dawson. An appalling performance.

:-[ please let us never speak of that game again, that was depressing.

Shocking. Surely some improvement has been made recently.

Nope, even an upsurge in sw talent it seems we are still stuck at that level
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'An upsurge in S West talent is arguable MR2'..........Could it not be a fact that the South Antrim clubs, Gall's included have failed in their development aspirations as indeed has the school system in Belfast. When was the last time a major college title went to a school in your city?
Last year the top two positions in the Antrim ratings were Cargin and Creggan both as you know from the parish of Duneane of which Moneyglass is also involved.......and with the numbers available to each unit small in the extreme when compared with that for City based clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2017, 03:35:47 PM
Didn't think MR was trying to be clever with his comment there lads. He has acknowledged an increase in SW standards but rightly points out that it hasn't transferred in any tangible way to thd county set up. Hard to argue with that tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2017, 03:35:47 PM
Didn't think MR was trying to be clever with his comment there lads. He has acknowledged an increase in SW standards but rightly points out that it hasn't transferred in any tangible way to thd county set up. Hard to argue with that tbh.

We'll agree to disagree BS.

Hows the pre-season going for your fellas? Who is in along with Jude Donnelly?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2017, 05:18:53 PM
All going well. Players like the way Jude has set about his business.  Lavey man Seamus Scullion is along with him PJ. We're hoping for a decent year....just like everyone in January lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2017, 03:35:47 PM
Didn't think MR was trying to be clever with his comment there lads. He has acknowledged an increase in SW standards but rightly points out that it hasn't transferred in any tangible way to thd county set up. Hard to argue with that tbh.
Perhaps not BS...but u are a most forgiving person.
As I said city teams and indeed Belfast schools are not producing their share.
As I noted Cargin and Creggan from the same parish lead the ratings in our county and from a catchment infinitely less than those from the South division.
Do you think it a coincidence that the majority those players in the ranks of both the above went to school in Derry.....St Pats Maghera...St Pius x or St Mary's Magherafelt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2017, 05:18:53 PM
All going well. Players like the way Jude has set about his business.  Lavey man Seamus Scullion is along with him PJ. We're hoping for a decent year....just like everyone in January lol.

Expecting big things then? Lol Worth £20 on Paddy Power for the SFC?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
For what it's worth I think we will be much improved this year. A lot of posters don't see us in the top half dozen (we finished 9th in the league last year) but if we weren't top four this year I'd be disappointed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:46:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2017, 03:35:47 PM
Didn't think MR was trying to be clever with his comment there lads. He has acknowledged an increase in SW standards but rightly points out that it hasn't transferred in any tangible way to thd county set up. Hard to argue with that tbh.
Perhaps not BS...but u are a most forgiving person.
As I said city teams and indeed Belfast schools are not producing their share.
As I noted Cargin and Creggan from the same parish lead the ratings in our county and from a catchment infinitely less than those from the South division.
Do you think it a coincidence that the majority those players in the ranks of both the above went to school in Derry.....St Pats Maghera...St Pius x or St Mary's Magherafelt?

I'm trying to see where I've tried to be funny... Sw teams have improved tremendously and that's been noted (or because we have went past or sell by date, whatever you think) but the Antrim team regardless who manages it, be they Belfast Derry Down Armagh or Cargin, has under performed because of the things I alluded to in an earlier post, a lack of skill, desire, attitude, physicality, hunger, commitment, tactically awareness/cuteness and possibly a bit of club clicks!!

Work on each of those things and maybe just maybe we'll become a decent team..... as a manager you have a set idea of training conditioning tactics players and a goal.... what normally happens is people buy into it until the first game, then the cracks start to appear, numbers drop, players moan about  selections and before ya now it that plan you had is shot!!

Easy to blame managers I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2017, 09:03:02 PM
The big Belfast Grammar schools wouldn't get a decent team between them. The likes of Rathmore, Aquinas, St Malachy's etc are all very poor football schools.  Football is down the list on level of importance in those schools. When you compare it to other counties, Omagh CBS, Maghera, St. Colman's, Abbey etc. They're all basically academies for the county teams and a lot of lads will be picking those (or getting picked) schools specifically to play football. Antrim doesn't have that at all. And anyone who goes to the Derry schools will no doubt be training to such a high level that when they finish school, they will go into a County set up that isn't half as organised as their school set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Jeez MR2, do u really need to resort to sarcasm all the time?

Was making what I believe is a valid point and suggesting that Derry schools and most likely all the rest of schools/colleges in Ireland are producing better footballers/hurlers than those in Antrim.
Not a hurling person or qualified to give opinion on such but when was the last time a city based club has won a county senior championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Jeez MR2, do u really need to resort to sarcasm all the time?

Was making what I believe is a valid point and suggesting that Derry schools and most likely all the rest of schools/colleges in Ireland are producing better footballers/hurlers than those in Antrim.
Not a hurling person or qualified to give opinion on such but when was the last time a city based club has won a county senior championship?

Rossa 2004. Scored 1-2 in the last few minutes to win it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Jeez MR2, do u really need to resort to sarcasm all the time?

Was making what I believe is a valid point and suggesting that Derry schools and most likely all the rest of schools/colleges in Ireland are producing better footballers/hurlers than those in Antrim.
Not a hurling person or qualified to give opinion on such but when was the last time a city based club has won a county senior championship?

Rossa a good few years ago now. When was the last Cargin team team win a hurling match? You made a point earlier about me not liking Cargin, I've asked you to show me where I've said that? And put it up, you haven't so are you being funny or sarcastic?

As got my joke that's all it was lad, you are way too sensitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 09:31:12 PM
Ai you beat loughgiel well.

Cb i would say to a point you are right. St louis has got a few good footballers through in south west too but mainly derry schools have produced the best ones. I always thought a lot of the galls guys benefited massively from university too as opposed to schools systems.

Maybe a bit harsh as occassionally st marys or la salle have done well mind...

Hurling we produce better than any in ulster anyway. Our talent is spread thinly whereas st pats maghera is almost derry hurling xv and down have their own team yet we win more than we lose.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?
Would be difficult for Cargin to win a hurling game nowadays MR2 .........did win a junior championship 1937 and possible called it a day after that. Our la.dies did win a provincial camogie title lat year
Not relative to the argument, but the fact that a hugely populated area like ur city with 350,000 inhabitants (give or take a few k) haven't won a senior hurling title since '04 and it has gone away down to the country since.
By the way my comment on ur dislike of Cargin was flippant and I know u really care.....sure didn't u remain at Corrigan last term to cheer our boys off the pitch following the '16 county final. Fair play ;)

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Jeez MR2, do u really need to resort to sarcasm all the time?

Was making what I believe is a valid point and suggesting that Derry schools and most likely all the rest of schools/colleges in Ireland are producing better footballers/hurlers than those in Antrim.
Not a hurling person or qualified to give opinion on such but when was the last time a city based club has won a county senior championship?

Rossa a good few years ago now. When was the last Cargin team team win a hurling match? You made a point earlier about me not liking Cargin, I've asked you to show me where I've said that? And put it up, you haven't so are you being funny or sarcastic?

As got my joke that's all it was lad, you are way too sensitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 24, 2017, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2017, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
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Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Jeez MR2, do u really need to resort to sarcasm all the time?

Was making what I believe is a valid point and suggesting that Derry schools and most likely all the rest of schools/colleges in Ireland are producing better footballers/hurlers than those in Antrim.
Not a hurling person or qualified to give opinion on such but when was the last time a city based club has won a county senior championship?

Rossa 2004. Scored 1-2 in the last few minutes to win it
Not my recollection of the game. We were well enough up for most of the second half or indeed the whole game?? And although Loughgiel scored a goal in the last minute, we won by about 7.

I stand corrected HS!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 11:25:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 24, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
I always thought that Derry schools brought the better south west guys on.

You look at Kevin brady, Michael McCann, Tomas McCann etc. All Derry schools. There will be exceptions but those are the ones that stand out to me. I think Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle were derry schools too?
Would be difficult for Cargin to win a hurling game nowadays MR2 .........did win a junior championship 1937 and possible called it a day after that. Our la.dies did win a provincial camogie title lat year
Not relative to the argument, but the fact that a hugely populated area like ur city with 350,000 inhabitants (give or take a few k) haven't won a senior hurling title since '04 and it has gone away down to the country since.
By the way my comment on ur dislike of Cargin was flippant and I know u really care.....sure didn't u remain at Corrigan last term to cheer our boys off the pitch following the '16 county final. Fair play ;)

All of the Cargin contingent on the Saffron side in 2016, the Mc Canns, Kobo, J Carron, J Crozier and J Laverty all went to Derry schools for their secondary education and in fact 90% of the present Cargin team went over the bridge as well.
Secret out MR2 ;)

Well my money's on them to win Ulster this year on that stat
Jeez MR2, do u really need to resort to sarcasm all the time?

Was making what I believe is a valid point and suggesting that Derry schools and most likely all the rest of schools/colleges in Ireland are producing better footballers/hurlers than those in Antrim.
Not a hurling person or qualified to give opinion on such but when was the last time a city based club has won a county senior championship?

Rossa a good few years ago now. When was the last Cargin team team win a hurling match? You made a point earlier about me not liking Cargin, I've asked you to show me where I've said that? And put it up, you haven't so are you being funny or sarcastic?

As for my joke that's all it was lad, you are way too sensitive

So that's a no??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
For what it's worth I think we will be much improved this year. A lot of posters don't see us in the top half dozen (we finished 9th in the league last year) but if we weren't top four this year I'd be disappointed.

I think Portglenone will challenge this year, they've gained another years experience and now a fresh voice will only help them improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
You could ge right PJ.......all S West senior final ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
You could ge right PJ.......all S West senior final ;)

Only city team that will challenge will be Lamh Dhearg. Maybe a city team will win the junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 25, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
You could ge right PJ.......all S West senior final ;)

Only city team that will challenge will be Lamh Dhearg. Maybe a city team will win the junior.

I doubt it...Belfast teams are concentrating on Scor it's the only All Ireland they haven't won
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
Cargin did win a couple All Ireland Rounders titles Mr2....maybe try and emulate that first prior to Scor :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2017, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 25, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 08:08:23 PM
You could ge right PJ.......all S West senior final ;)

Only city team that will challenge will be Lamh Dhearg. Maybe a city team will win the junior.

I doubt it...Belfast teams are concentrating on Scor it's the only All Ireland they haven't won

Surely one of them has won one for story telling...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
Cargin did win a couple All Ireland Rounders titles Mr2....maybe try and emulate that first prior to Scor :)

Getting out of Ulster must have been some feeling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 09:44:36 PM
Was indeed but that was then and the future beckons.....people tend to forget yesterday's heros. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 09:44:36 PM
Was indeed but that was then and the future beckons.....people tend to forget yesterday's heros. :)

Nope you shouldn't... hold on to those memories

Still waiting on those posts about me hating Cargin coming up! Any joy??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 10:17:20 PM
That's not me lol I could not do that as a ref!

HS ya messer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 25, 2017, 10:22:11 PM
Enuf said......Hs is the Oracle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2017, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2017, 10:17:20 PM
That's not me lol I could not do that as a ref! Even though I really really really really hate Cargin. Toome f**kers

HS is a great lad.
No problem, I thought you were Galls best hurler !

No problem

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 26, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
I would be very surprised if it was not another Galls Cargin final unless they hit each other on the way through.  Galls might be on the decline but they still have enough know how come Championship time for most teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 26, 2017, 09:20:57 AM
I actually see St Johns as the side that might be next to challenge - Lamh Dhearg seem to have a glass ceiling, PG1 I am not sure have enough though like St Johns have potential to improve.  Creggan again might be the glass ceiling type.  Happy to be proven wrong on all of that though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 09:29:45 AM
Quote from: Hectic on January 26, 2017, 09:20:57 AM
I actually see St Johns as the side that might be next to challenge - Lamh Dhearg seem to have a glass ceiling, PG1 I am not sure have enough though like St Johns have potential to improve.  Creggan again might be the glass ceiling type.  Happy to be proven wrong on all of that though.

Can't discount Rossa either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2017, 10:12:33 AM
Time will tell. In my book Cargin are half a dozen points better than anyone at the minute....and of the chasing pack any of them could beat another on any given day.

Hunger is a great motivator in football and having broken their St Galls duck twice now and those elusive medals secured, can Cargin maintain their supremacy. Will the JB factor be as influential in his third year....a hard year usually for most managers.

I think it will be a very interesting year and I'm looking forward to it already.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
Brendan Crossans annual hard on for CJ continues. Back page IN headline today and a build up for the big exclusive CJ interview tomorrow. Time enough for the plaudits Brendan when/if CJ ever gets round to doing it in Saffron.

Which I hope he does.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 26, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
Brendan Crossans annual hard on for CJ continues. Back page IN headline today and a build up for the big exclusive CJ interview tomorrow. Time enough for the plaudits Brendan when/if CJ ever gets round to doing it in Saffron.

Which I hope he does.

Great line BS lol

Time to stand up CJ, talented no doubt. Stay out of papers and head down and work away. Hopefully a positive will come of this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 26, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Christ are we still waiting on CJ to fulfil his undoubted potential? Ability unfortunately is only one of a number of factors required.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2017, 11:13:28 AM
What age is he now? He must be near the 30 mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: Hectic on January 26, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Christ are we still waiting on CJ to fulfil his undoubted potential? Ability unfortunately is only one of a number of factors required.

Going by his interview he's learned that lesson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2017, 11:52:26 AM
Still time if he gets his act together though I am not holding my breath to be honest - no harm to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)

And continuing one of the reasons as to why Antrim are a poor 'team'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)

And continuing one of the reasons as to why Antrim are a poor 'team'

What?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)

And continuing one of the reasons as to why Antrim are a poor 'team'

What?

I'd put up a list of reasons earlier... read back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)

And continuing one of the reasons as to why Antrim are a poor 'team'

What?

I'd put up a list of reasons earlier... read back

Your alright mate, I can guess.

I hope there are no late night/early morning phone calls to management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)

And continuing one of the reasons as to why Antrim are a poor 'team'

What?

I'd put up a list of reasons earlier... read back

Your alright mate, I can guess.

I hope there are no late night/early morning phone calls to management.

So you just asked for what reason??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 10:30:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
So the 'very talented' CJ is on his way back....as someone once said 'A triumph of hope over experience' is befitting.
Hey was a good management ploy to 'retire' Mick Mc Cann and with Crozier, and Carron also on their way CJ returns as positively Antrim's saviour. :)

And continuing one of the reasons as to why Antrim are a poor 'team'

What?

I'd put up a list of reasons earlier... read back

Your alright mate, I can guess.

I hope there are no late night/early morning phone calls to management.

So you just asked for what reason??

Because i wanted to know, I can guess why because you won't tell me and I won't ask you to write them again.

Was CJ on the hurling under Pj O'M at the start of last year and left?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Paddy Power does not expect us to do well in the league this year......Antrim are 25/1 to win div 3.....and 1/3 to be relegated.

A price on CJ staying for the duration ............. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 10:47:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Paddy Power does not expect us to do well in the league this year......Antrim are 25/1 to win div 3.....and 1/3 to be relegated.

A price on CJ staying for the duration ............. :)

Same price as Cargin doing well in Ulster I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 27, 2017, 07:46:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2017, 10:47:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 26, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Paddy Power does not expect us to do well in the league this year......Antrim are 25/1 to win div 3.....and 1/3 to be relegated.

A price on CJ staying for the duration ............. :)

Same price as Cargin doing well in Ulster I believe

A bad case of Obsessive Cargin Disorder going on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 27, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
Use pair need a separate thread to bash each other and compare whos the bestest's ever while the rest of us dont care.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2017, 09:07:00 AM
My opinion, CJ back on the county panel again, whatever. He has history of being a disruptive influence on squads that he has been a part of which isn't helpful at the minute. Maybe the management can keep him in check.

I'd rather see Mick McCann back on the panel to be honest and that is not a south west bias either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2017, 08:54:47 PM
What's the crack with the assertion Mick Mc Cann was "pushed"? I'm sure if he threw his kit back over his shoulder and walked into the Antrim training tonight at the Dub no one would say a word. Has anyone told he he is not welcome?

Did he not officially retire himself a few times already?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2017, 09:28:52 PM
Ironic thing is we are really short of midfielders. Now that the mark is in place a good fielder is important. And this year there's no Mc Keever, Carron, or Sean Burke either. That's our four first choice midfielders from last year all missing.

Trying to fill those shoes are Michael Johnston,  Stephen Beattie and Oisin Leneghan.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2017, 09:31:48 PM
I'd be checking out Donal Nugent. Very impressive for Lamhs against St Galls in the championship I thought. Bound to be a reason he's missing or Fitzy would have had him in, on merit too. Big Gérard Mc Cann  wouldn't be out of place either. Would win a lot of ball in the middle third and also had a great season last year.

As it stands I see the pairing being Conor Murray and Matt Fitz.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2017, 10:35:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 27, 2017, 09:31:48 PM
I'd be checking out Donal Nugent. Very impressive for Lamhs against St Galls in the championship I thought. Bound to be a reason he's missing or Fitzy would have had him in, on merit too. Big Gérard Mc Cann  wouldn't be out of place either. Would win a lot of ball in the middle third and also had a great season last year.

As it stands I see the pairing being Conor Murray and Matt Fitz.

What's wrong with McKeever? I'm only going by what Mick has on twityer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 27, 2017, 10:43:47 PM
Mick Cann is possibly the best fielder of a ball in Antrim and having spoken to him quite often recently I will very much doubt his return and yes he was pushed.
J Carron has had enough I hear.....was on a string last year.
Antrim really need all hands on deck but where are the Burke brothers, Niall Mc Keever, and the like?
Having watched and cringed at the Mc Kenna cup games I honestly have little hope and with few 'new boys' making suggestion that we may well be on the upward trail.
But hey what do I know. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
NMK going for an operation on his ankle once Sigerson is over. Will be out for at least 8 weeks after that. Possibly longer. You won't see him in Saffron this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2017, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 27, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
NMK going for an operation on his ankle once Sigerson is over. Will be out for at least 8 weeks after that. Possibly longer. You won't see him in Saffron this year.

Huge loss for both club and county.
I'll rethink my prediction for PG1 then  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2017, 10:59:25 PM
He will be ok for the first round of the club championship. Nice and fresh lol. (Trying hard to put a positive spin on things lol)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
Well done Sean Kelly.......well deserved, a great job ....and not a "chosen one" not a visionary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2017, 02:48:12 PM
100% agree CB. Well done Sean. Ulster GAA writers PRO of the year. Sean was our clubs guest of honour at last week's annual dinner dance presentation and I was seated beside him. An absolute gentleman.

Which begs the question. Are there any more hidden gems put there who could/should be working for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 28, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2017, 02:48:12 PM
100% agree CB. Well done Sean. Ulster GAA writers PRO of the year. Sean was our clubs guest of honour at last week's annual dinner dance presentation and I was seated beside him. An absolute gentleman.

Which begs the question. Are there any more hidden gems put there who could/should be working for Antrim?

No end of hidden gems I'd say. Internal politics within club committees sometimes put people off standing for positions, maybe the same at county level also.

I've met Sean a few times and he is gentleman, he sleeps and breathes Antrim GAA!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 29, 2017, 03:52:13 PM
Yeah though in a lot of situations people who could have a lot to offer genuienly do not have the time and those that do appear to are often making decent sacrifice of what time they have.

Yes there is a degree of politics on the club scene but also given they are generally close knit in their makeup it is often more a case that everyone has their own opinions, their own ideas of how things could be better, little factions of like minfed and no doubt in some cases a good bit of over estimation of ones own worth.

County level a wee bit different as it encompasses a wider pool removing a certain sense of duty that comes at local level and also a bigger pool of thinking so good to see good men giving their time to represent the wider need.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2017, 03:05:57 PM
Nice to see a few comments of congratulations on the county website for Sean.. Some south west blood in him also if I'm not mistaken, an ulster title for Cargin after all.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 30, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
Well informed you are PJ.................Yes indeed Sean Kelly has Cargin blood flowing in his veins and is well proud of his roots.
His Grandad resided a mile outside Toome in Annaghmore.......and rests in Cargin :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
Guys when do the All County Leagues begin - I have not heard of any fixtures being published yet nor championship draws - anyone shed any light?  I would assume at this stage all teams are out putting the hard yards in gearing up for the campaign ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
Guys when do the All County Leagues begin - I have not heard of any fixtures being published yet nor championship draws - anyone shed any light?  I would assume at this stage all teams are out putting the hard yards in gearing up for the campaign ahead.

Do we have a new chair of the CCC yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
Guys when do the All County Leagues begin - I have not heard of any fixtures being published yet nor championship draws - anyone shed any light?  I would assume at this stage all teams are out putting the hard yards in gearing up for the campaign ahead.

Do we have a new chair of the CCC yet?

Ha - cart and horse alignment and all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
Guys when do the All County Leagues begin - I have not heard of any fixtures being published yet nor championship draws - anyone shed any light?  I would assume at this stage all teams are out putting the hard yards in gearing up for the campaign ahead.

Do we have a new chair of the CCC yet?

Ha - cart and horse alignment and all that.

Was it this time last year they came out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
Guys when do the All County Leagues begin - I have not heard of any fixtures being published yet nor championship draws - anyone shed any light?  I would assume at this stage all teams are out putting the hard yards in gearing up for the campaign ahead.

Do we have a new chair of the CCC yet?

Ha - cart and horse alignment and all that.

Was it this time last year they came out?

I don't think it was this late tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on January 31, 2017, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hectic on January 31, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
Guys when do the All County Leagues begin - I have not heard of any fixtures being published yet nor championship draws - anyone shed any light?  I would assume at this stage all teams are out putting the hard yards in gearing up for the campaign ahead.

Do we have a new chair of the CCC yet?

Ha - cart and horse alignment and all that.

Was it this time last year they came out?

I don't think it was this late tbh.

Club cship draws on 13th February apparently?

Need league fixtures asap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 31, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 21, 2016, 06:30:35 PM
6th March for division 3 anyway as the fixtures are out. Quite early, county board could have given more notice

So they came out last year at some point between 9th February and 21st February.

there was nearly a moan for PJ there, phew
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 31, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on February 21, 2016, 06:30:35 PM
6th March for division 3 anyway as the fixtures are out. Quite early, county board could have given more notice

So they came out last year at some point between 9th February and 21st February.

there was nearly a moan for PJ there, phew

yaaaaaawwnnnnn.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 31, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
We have a 'fresh faced' CCC chairman......only in Antrim :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 31, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
We have a 'fresh faced' CCC chairman......only in Antrim :'(

Hmmmm....don't be getting negative now CB, MR2 doesn't like it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 31, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
We have a 'fresh faced' CCC chairman......only in Antrim :'(

Hmmmm....don't be getting negative now CB, MR2 doesn't like it.

Fresh face sounds positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 11:26:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 31, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
We have a 'fresh faced' CCC chairman......only in Antrim :'(

Hmmmm....don't be getting negative now CB, MR2 doesn't like it.

Fresh face sounds positive.

Depends who owns that face. It remains to be seen if it's a good job or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 07:44:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 11:26:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 31, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
We have a 'fresh faced' CCC chairman......only in Antrim :'(

Hmmmm....don't be getting negative now CB, MR2 doesn't like it.

Fresh face sounds positive.

Depends who owns that face. It remains to be seen if it's a good job or not.

Well if he doesn't keep you happy we'll know about it....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 08:02:11 AM
Take it youse are all hitting full tile on the training front anyhow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 08:57:46 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 08:02:11 AM
Take it youse are all hitting full tile on the training front anyhow?

I'd say most clubs are building up to full on training at this point, a lot of lads be hitting the gym also doing their own strength and conditioning also, would see a few lads from different clubs at the gym doing extra

Would imagine this month would see a few challenge games being set up, but a lot of lads still with their colleges and counties so things always get into gear come April really, its a far cry from us starting training in May!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 08:57:46 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 08:02:11 AM
Take it youse are all hitting full tile on the training front anyhow?

I'd say most clubs are building up to full on training at this point, a lot of lads be hitting the gym also doing their own strength and conditioning also, would see a few lads from different clubs at the gym doing extra

Would imagine this month would see a few challenge games being set up, but a lot of lads still with their colleges and counties so things always get into gear come April really, its a far cry from us starting training in May!!
Think Cargin are taking a year out .....well the little man who runs the show has not included them in entries 2017.............a 'Freudian slip' perhaps :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.

they hopped over the river and are included in the Derry leagues now, its taken a few years since the St Pauls incident but all good now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 01, 2017, 10:54:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 07:44:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 11:26:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 31, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
We have a 'fresh faced' CCC chairman......only in Antrim :'(

Hmmmm....don't be getting negative now CB, MR2 doesn't like it.

Fresh face sounds positive.

Depends who owns that face. It remains to be seen if it's a good job or not.

Well if he doesn't keep you happy we'll know about it....

You are correct yet again o wise one, as always.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.

they hopped over the river and are included in the Derry leagues now, its taken a few years since the St Pauls incident but all good now
Sure it doesn't take long to forget in our county MR2...........late nite phone calls and missed frees fade from the oul memory banks. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.

they hopped over the river and are included in the Derry leagues now, its taken a few years since the St Pauls incident but all good now
Sure it doesn't take long to forget in our county MR2...........late nite phone calls and missed frees fade from the oul memory banks. :)

Never forget that Boxing match, was a screamer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.

they hopped over the river and are included in the Derry leagues now, its taken a few years since the St Pauls incident but all good now
Sure it doesn't take long to forget in our county MR2...........late nite phone calls and missed frees fade from the oul memory banks. :)

Never forget that Boxing match, was a screamer
A the penny drops....so you were the patriotic Blue who did his duty and forwarded the most impartial body the video recording furtively attained.....did u record Moneyglass beating ur boys in the senior the same year or indeed the antics of your whiter than white minor team after Cargin chinned you in the final same year.
No....recorder not functioning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 10:19:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.

they hopped over the river and are included in the Derry leagues now, its taken a few years since the St Pauls incident but all good now
Sure it doesn't take long to forget in our county MR2...........late nite phone calls and missed frees fade from the oul memory banks. :)

Never forget that Boxing match, was a screamer
A the penny drops....so you were the patriotic Blue who did his duty and forwarded the most impartial body the video recording furtively attained.....did u record Moneyglass beating ur boys in the senior the same year or indeed the antics of your whiter than white minor team after Cargin chinned you in the final same year.
No....recorder not functioning

Nope, was a decent game, it finally ended that nonsense at the time were off the ball stuff finally was put to bed.. county got tough and refereeing was more on top of it.. was a good thing. If you know what I mean
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 01, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
You boys need a thread of your own
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 01, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
You boys need a thread of your own

Just banter, bitta craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 01, 2017, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 01, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Heard they were missing from the list alright.

they hopped over the river and are included in the Derry leagues now, its taken a few years since the St Pauls incident but all good now
Sure it doesn't take long to forget in our county MR2...........late nite phone calls and missed frees fade from the oul memory banks. :)

Never forget that Boxing match, was a screamer
A the penny drops....so you were the patriotic Blue who did his duty and forwarded the most impartial body the video recording furtively attained.....did u record Moneyglass beating ur boys in the senior the same year or indeed the antics of your whiter than white minor team after Cargin chinned you in the final same year.
No....recorder not functioning

?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 02, 2017, 11:22:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 01, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
You boys need a thread of your own

Sure we'd only spend the time reading it..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 02, 2017, 08:43:40 PM
Who is on a trip to Tipp at the week-end  ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2017, 10:15:07 PM
Thinking about it. Is there a supporters bus going lol?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 02, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Not for me. After travelling to most games last year I finished up by concluding that what was on offer wasn't worth going to. I hope that changes this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 02, 2017, 10:47:04 PM
I'm tipping a load of last years turf on Sunday, 500 bags or there abouts, if anybody wants some preseason training..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 03, 2017, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 02, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Not for me. After travelling to most games last year I finished up by concluding that what was on offer wasn't worth going to. I hope that changes this year.
You are hard to please then BB.......never lost a league game and gained promotion so logic should dictate with the Vision within we will make progress :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 03, 2017, 04:46:11 PM
it was the championship performances that switched me off CB, I was delighted to be in Wicklow when we gained promotion, and hopes were high heading into the summer....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2017, 06:57:47 PM
Listened to the commentary today, interested to hear from anyone who was at it. It sounded like we did well overall, certainly better than most of us would have thought. Ryan Murray's black card sounded like an injustice and he was clearly having a big impact. Staying up in this Division is the first aim, and today's was perhaps one of the toughest fixtures. Even a point would have been very welcome but the performance will offer grounds for optimism.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 05, 2017, 08:01:16 PM
Didn't make it myself Brendan. Going five points up after 23 minutes gave us cause for optimism, but losing the next 47 minutes by ten points a dose of reality maybe.

No easy games in this league but hopefully we can nick a point or two in the next couple of games to give us any kind of lifeline to cling to.

Great weekend wins for Fermanagh and Monaghan put our Mc Kenna cup performances into perspective. But we need our best players out...and soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2017, 02:50:45 PM
It was superb to see the PRO down with the lads on Sunday, the live footage on them coming off the bus was good, Sean Kelly deserves every bit of recognition he deserves, a top top man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 07, 2017, 03:12:52 PM
In danger of sounding like some sort of love in there PaddyJohn..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2017, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 07, 2017, 03:12:52 PM
In danger of sounding like some sort of love in there PaddyJohn..

I've had a few negative posts on the board and I've decided to give credit where credit is due. The coverage of the Club Championships last year was excellent and the coverage of the scor etc was really good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 07, 2017, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 07, 2017, 03:12:52 PM
In danger of sounding like some sort of love in there PaddyJohn..

I've had a few negative posts on the board and I've decided to give credit where credit is due. The coverage of the Club Championships last year was excellent and the coverage of the scor etc was really good.
The present PRO is bu far the best I can remember PJ and despite not arriving as a Visionary he has proved a splendid appointment......the coverage of the championships last year was indeed excellent and I have had such remarks from friends in Oz, NZ, and the USA who were delighted to see those games as super recordings.
Think Sean will make a great Chairman...in time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 07, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
Any word when fixtures will be released ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 07, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
Any word when fixtures will be released ?
No fixtures as yet Stiffler but another meeting next week................we await the 'swearing in' of the CCC................hear this body isn't overloaded with South West members.......think there is but one in that body.
Wont be many championship games out in the sticks this year I think............well unless we need lights.
Was surprised to hear that the top guns in the county did not think it within their remit to show appreciation to the PRO following his further success in Ulster and it was left up an individual to remind delegates of such at the end of the meeting under AOB.....
Only in Antrim ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2017, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 07, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 07, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
Any word when fixtures will be released ?
No fixtures as yet Stiffler but another meeting next week................we await the 'swearing in' of the CCC................hear this body isn't overloaded with South West members.......think there is but one in that body.
Wont be many championship games out in the sticks this year I think............well unless we need lights.
Was surprised to hear that the top guns in the county did not think it within their remit to show appreciation to the PRO following his further success in Ulster and it was left up an individual to remind delegates of such at the end of the meeting under AOB.....
Only in Antrim ???

Surely somebody is winding you up.. early success in Ulster and the SV don't congratulate the recipient? With the amount of social media coverage that's happening, somebody is bound to of saw it.
Title: Dunsilly
Post by: FermGael on February 07, 2017, 07:40:13 PM
Any body got directions to the dunsilly centre of excellence ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2017, 08:14:18 PM
Get onto the m2 at belfast and drive until the ballymena exit. This is the dunsilly roundabout. Take your first left to antrim and it is just in on your left.

You shouldn't have much non motorway driving at all.

N.b. I have not been there but amm 99% sure where it is. The finer detail of last turn offs etc someone else can answer but if they don't that should get you there or thereabouts.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 07, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 07, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
Any word when fixtures will be released ?
No fixtures as yet Stiffler but another meeting next week................we await the 'swearing in' of the CCC................hear this body isn't overloaded with South West members.......think there is but one in that body.
Wont be many championship games out in the sticks this year I think............well unless we need lights.
Was surprised to hear that the top guns in the county did not think it within their remit to show appreciation to the PRO following his further success in Ulster and it was left up an individual to remind delegates of such at the end of the meeting under AOB.....
Only in Antrim ???

Did the sw people send people for it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 07, 2017, 09:22:04 PM
If you don't belong to the SV team ...your face doesn't fit with the programme. So PRO. Success not celebrated.
Mr. Elliott got p45 from CCC chair...replaced by a yes man from chairman's own club......
These things all go against ethos and culture of gaa. No SW representatives on CCC. It's all a bit like the DUP ....they've lost the run of themselves !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2017, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 07, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 07, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
Any word when fixtures will be released ?
No fixtures as yet Stiffler but another meeting next week................we await the 'swearing in' of the CCC................hear this body isn't overloaded with South West members.......think there is but one in that body.
Wont be many championship games out in the sticks this year I think............well unless we need lights.
Was surprised to hear that the top guns in the county did not think it within their remit to show appreciation to the PRO following his further success in Ulster and it was left up an individual to remind delegates of such at the end of the meeting under AOB.....
Only in Antrim ???

Did the sw people send people for it??
seems membership of CCC is by appointment MR2......  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 07, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
Who are the county board fans on here and who are the anti county board men? I don't understand it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 08, 2017, 08:20:40 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
Who are the county board fans on here and who are the anti county board men? I don't understand it all.

PRO, a top class job he is doing for the good of Antrim GAA. If only those at the top table appreciated the work and effort he is putting in.

Its not good at the minute with Antrim GAA.

Title: Re: Dunsilly
Post by: Hectic on February 08, 2017, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: FermGael on February 07, 2017, 07:40:13 PM
Any body got directions to the dunsilly centre of excellence ?

Tell the missus you are taking her to Junction 1 shopping centre and make sure she sits in the front seat beside you - that will be your sat nav - when she gets you there you are not much more than a stones throw away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 08, 2017, 08:33:13 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
Who are the county board fans on here and who are the anti county board men? I don't understand it all.

I am neither but I do believe that any group that sets about to affect change needs to be given time.  Too many here seem to think that a magic wand is waved and all is good immediately and then when it is not it is a crying match.  Maybe that is part of the problem here in Antrim that we do not see that for real change long term strategic thinking is required from grassroots up and that sorting the administration first was the priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2017, 09:12:20 AM
Some ball talk going on here. Sean Kelly is well aware of how highly appreciated his services are by county executive. They also know he is one of the best in the business and are fully supportive of his endeavours.

Why on earth would anyone on here go to the bother of assuming otherwise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 08, 2017, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2017, 09:12:20 AM
Some ball talk going on here. Sean Kelly is well aware of how highly appreciated his services are by county executive. They also know he is one of the best in the business and are fully supportive of his endeavours.

Why on earth would anyone on here go to the bother of assuming otherwise?

Bannside, actions speak louder than words. That would show how much he is appreciated by the top table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2017, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2017, 09:12:20 AM
Some ball talk going on here. Sean Kelly is well aware of how highly appreciated his services are by county executive. They also know he is one of the best in the business and are fully supportive of his endeavours.

Why on earth would anyone on here go to the bother of assuming otherwise?
Hear what u say Bannside and to say I am amazed at the content on this would be a huge understatement.

I do know that u always have ur ear to the ground in Antrim affairs and indeed I have found myself in complete agreement with most of ur utterances, but I am completely astounded this time.

Think u are having us on my friend or is this a classic example of a swift 'tug of the forelock' to those seated at the top, or perhaps u are seeking a call to join those who do have the Vision ???

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2017, 12:15:25 PM
Yes I do have an ear to the ground (most of the time) and that's exactly why I am gobsmacked that some people can come to the assumption that SK has not received due recognition for his outstanding contribution. But rest assured that I will find out if there is an issue and if so, I will be thd first to agree with you.

With regard to "tugging the forelock" CB, (That's twice you have used that assertion) so I'd better nail that at source and say that neither am I courting or expecting a call from anyone  on executive to perform any particular role or function, so you can quote me on that.

I do however have an intention to see if Roger Casements can indeed make ground on mighty Cargin on the football field. Of course the first challenge is to see if we can make enough headway to get within that beagals gowl you talk of!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
I have made a few enquiries and I admit maybe I have been a bit wide of the mark on this issue.

It is only proper that Seans outstanding work is properly encouraged and promoted by the hierarchy at every opportunity as there is not a better PRO in the country. His work should never be taken for granted or undervalued and those in senior officialdom should recognise that.

Typically Sean declined to make any comment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
a no news day it seems, I heard someone from SV didnt put the seat down after having a piss in local pub toilet!

New committee need ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2017, 04:20:08 PM
And u let slip such an exalted body woulld frequent such a place MR2 ..tut tut  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
a no news day it seems, I heard someone from SV didnt put the seat down after having a piss in local pub toilet!

New committee need ffs

For a man who is so positive about the county, you are yet to congratulate Sean.. maybe your saffron vision is blurring on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 08, 2017, 05:59:53 PM
New committee need ......to show respect ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
a no news day it seems, I heard someone from SV didnt put the seat down after having a piss in local pub toilet!

New committee need ffs

For a man who is so positive about the county, you are yet to congratulate Sean.. maybe your saffron vision is blurring on and off the pitch.

How do you know I haven't you knob??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
a no news day it seems, I heard someone from SV didnt put the seat down after having a piss in local pub toilet!

New committee need ffs

For a man who is so positive about the county, you are yet to congratulate Sean.. maybe your saffron vision is blurring on and off the pitch.

How do you know I haven't you knob??

Tut tut, a respected referee insulting somebody on a public forum... suppose we all know how well another respected referee has got as last few years and is now sitting at the top table, hope he kept your seat warm.

Who is in charge of St Galls this season? Any retirements or new signings?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 09:08:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
a no news day it seems, I heard someone from SV didnt put the seat down after having a piss in local pub toilet!

New committee need ffs

For a man who is so positive about the county, you are yet to congratulate Sean.. maybe your saffron vision is blurring on and off the pitch.

How do you know I haven't you knob??

Tut tut, a respected referee insulting somebody on a public forum... suppose we all know how well another respected referee has got as last few years and is now sitting at the top table, hope he kept your seat warm.

Who is in charge of St Galls this season? Any retirements or new signings?

I've acknowledged it elsewhere not here... have you got to the 20 other Antrim posters on here yet??

We've just got the Gouch who's up in Belfast working at the minute and Connelly who's met a girl from St James area (which according to cb makes it ok) and the manager is Galvin, he's a thing for blue!!

No retirements but we've managed to bring back Micky Corr, Gerry Higgins and PJ to bring on as impact subs. Another All Ireland me thinks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
Heard u were down at Poleglass trying to encourage Mitchell's men to sign.............jeez with Galvin now installed as manager will u be asking Sean Kelly and Terry O' Neill to stand down..... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.

What score??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.

What score??
May be a touch biased MR2 but I do think I am well ahead  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 09, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
The beauty of the GAA - we all know best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 09, 2017, 01:45:12 PM
The other beauty of the GAA - we all love to snipe at those in committees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 09, 2017, 02:44:19 PM
Anyway slow news day that it is and now that all squads are up and running, status quo maintained in some clubs, fresh management in others - are we going to see any change in who is taking honours this season and also what about the leagues.  The top of division 1 I know some teams do not see it as their main objective so I am less interested in calling it but what about relegation from Div 1 and promotion and relegation in the other divisions?

Div 1 relgated:
St Pauls
St Teresa's

Div 2 promoted:
St Brigids
Ballymena

Div 2 relgated:
Antrim
Ardoyne/Rasharkin

Div 3 promoted:
Glenravel
Sarsfields

Anyone beg to differ? - certainly mostly yoyo in what I am predicting at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
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Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.

What score??
May be a touch biased MR2 but I do think I am well ahead  :)

at giving head?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 11:54:15 PM
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.

What score??
May be a touch biased MR2 but I do think I am well ahead  :)

at giving head?
Having taken stock of ur attire which adorns ur profile pic I am sure u would be more likely to enjoy such task MR2...  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2017, 08:57:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
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Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.

What score??
May be a touch biased MR2 but I do think I am well ahead  :)

at giving head?
Having taken stock of ur attire which adorns ur profile pic I am sure u would be more likely to enjoy such task MR2...  ;)

I'm not sure where you end and PJ starts!!

Stalk much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2017, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2017, 08:57:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
Tag team... no punch without Judy

Hardly hi... CB knows the score and so do I.

What score??
May be a touch biased MR2 but I do think I am well ahead  :)

at giving head?
Having taken stock of ur attire which adorns ur profile pic I am sure u would be more likely to enjoy such task MR2...  ;)

I'm not sure where you end and PJ starts!!

Stalk much?

Hardly, get over yourself and please tolerate your language.


Hectic, agree with most of that although I don't think Rasharkin will find themselves struggling as badly as they did last year at times.

Sarsfields and Glenravel more than likely come up but I was speaking to lad from Glenravel this week and they still haven't a manager in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 11:40:27 AM
Yeah reason I had Ardoyne or Rasharkinh was because I could see it go either way for those sides. Rasharkin have been poor enough the past couple of seasons. While I have been surprised to see them struggle in this time they need to do better from the off this season or they could be sucked down if Ardoyne continue on an upward curve. Ardoyne won Div 3 at a canter last season but they will need to improve again and come out of the blocks flying to survive. Personally I would like to see Ardoyne kick on for that part of the city though that's not to say I want to see Rasharkin go down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2017, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 11:40:27 AM
Yeah reason I had Ardoyne or Rasharkinh was because I could see it go either way for those sides. Rasharkin have been poor enough the past couple of seasons. While I have been surprised to see them struggle in this time they need to do better from the off this season or they could be sucked down if Ardoyne continue on an upward curve. Ardoyne won Div 3 at a canter last season but they will need to improve again and come out of the blocks flying to survive. Personally I would like to see Ardoyne kick on for that part of the city though that's not to say I want to see Rasharkin go down.

Yeah I know what you mean, I watched Rasharkin a few times last year and at the start they were poor but as the season went on they improved and the second season under Dermot McNicholl could be steady enough.

Ardoyne won Div3 but Div2 is a huge step up as Antrim Town will find out also. I'd both these 2 could go down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 02:54:23 PM
Fair point about McNicholl. I believe it is often the second season before you can start judging a manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2017, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 02:54:23 PM
Fair point about McNicholl. I believe it is often the second season before you can start judging a manager.

They finished the season strongly after getting a system in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 03:44:08 PM
Helped by pulling boys out of retirement if my information is correct. Not sure about the longevity of that plus Benny Hassan big loss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 10, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Benny Hasson didn't play a game for us last year so that loss is already dealt with.
Not sure where you got your information but we brought no one  out of retirement, the players who played at the end of the year played all year but always great to see Sharkin football being so keenly debated on here.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 04:07:13 PM
Fair enough Dreen and I did allude the fact my information might be in doubt. I am talking Hassan in terms of boys that could have been about for a few years. I watched you play Ballymena a few years ago when he lorded in over an imposing midfield that included Sean McVeigh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 10, 2017, 04:16:39 PM
No doubt Hectic Benny a big loss and with him based in Belfast a completely understandable move but you just have to deal with these things. Hes just one of a few we have lost in recent years to Australia etc. Part and parcel of life for most clubs these days.
Plenty of footballers in the club and hopefully an upward trend going forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 10, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
And on that note best of luck with the season ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 10, 2017, 09:15:29 PM
So O'Cahan cup is to begin next week and Cargin meet up with Casements.
As our lads have yet to start on their pre-season training u must fancy ur chances BS.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2017, 09:37:14 PM
We've very little done ourselves CB except a dozen or so gym sessions for S&C.  Niall Mc Keever now going for surgery on his ankle and Niall Delargy still 2 or 3 weeks away with a nasty hamstring injury. We haven't had a football out yet or even any cardiovascular work so I'd say you are still hot favourites.

If I offered evens Cargin youse would bite my arm off. Jackie Brown would be at my front door in 15 mins.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 11, 2017, 12:21:30 AM
Have cargin and portglenone not started yet ?bullshit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 11, 2017, 12:22:07 AM
Is pd not back out of retirement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 11, 2017, 08:32:56 AM
Cargin have been working in the gym s and c for a few weeks but they have not seen grass or a ball Galer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 11, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 10, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Benny Hasson didn't play a game for us last year so that loss is already dealt with.
Not sure where you got your information but we brought no one  out of retirement, the players who played at the end of the year played all year but always great to see Sharkin football being so keenly debated on here.
Cannot see Rasharkin in the relegation zone this year..............saw the tide turn at Moneyglass last year when danger threatened and they went on to gain a further four victories.
Character is not a problem within and fully anticipate a top half finish for them this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 11, 2017, 09:43:23 PM
Me thinks thou protest too much cb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
Stallions looking for you on the Derry thread Galer! Incidentally what side of the Bann are you from??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 11, 2017, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: Galer on February 11, 2017, 09:43:23 PM
Me thinks thou protest too much cb
Not one for protestations..Galer....
More for probabilites   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 12, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Offaly 0-20 Antrim 0-6 - 7 mins to go  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 12, 2017, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: Minder  on February 12, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Offaly 0-20 Antrim 0-6 - 7 mins to go  :-[
Saying nothing.......keeping the head down.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 12, 2017, 07:57:42 PM
Well bs i was born on one side and live on the other follow both sides of the bann very closely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 12, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
Back to div4 yet again is it any wonder im not to optimistic abt the current regime or future.can we get rid of these boys now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 12, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Poor result today for footballer, and scoreline suggests it was not a good performance. Home games vital to hopes of staying up. louth look to be flying, and we drew with them in league last year and looked to have their measure in Croke Park until second half collapse. Looks like we are already heading in different directions now unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 13, 2017, 09:20:33 AM
Yeah FFF it- less said about yesterday the better - O'Cahan Cup next week end is where the real action is - or is it? - are these games anything more than glorified friendlies these days given their placement in the calendar?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
Good point Hectic. I recall the not too distant past when the South West senior championship was a big event. That was back in the days when an all county title coming to the SW was a very rare event.  To compensate SW teams took it very seriously and there would be large crowds guaranteed for the final.

To stage the first round next weekend before most clubs have had a football out in anger is an insult to the clubs and entirely demeans the prestige of the event.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 13, 2017, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 13, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
Good point Hectic. I recall the not too distant past when the South West senior championship was a big event. That was back in the days when an all county title coming to the SW was a very rare event.  To compensate SW teams took it very seriously and there would be large crowds guaranteed for the final.

To stage the first round next weekend before most clubs have had a football out in anger is an insult to the clubs and entirely demeans the prestige of the event.

couldnt agree more BS. were away to Rasharkin this weekend and our lads havent even been on grass to train at this stage of the year! pure madness to play what is a competitive game at this stage on pitches that aint fit to take them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 13, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
It is a pity all the same - as BS says it was a good competition, well looked forward to at a time.  I think by throwing it in at this stage of the year it is sending out the message that it is of little relevance - not that the U21 championship is a lot better - again that was once a great competition when played in spring/ early summer.  I appreciate that a lot of fixtures have to be squeezed in these days but at the same time as DR says a lot of teams have not hit grass yet let alone had a ball in hand yet.  Ah well moaning about it aint going to change it I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 13, 2017, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 13, 2017, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 13, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
Good point Hectic. I recall the not too distant past when the South West senior championship was a big event. That was back in the days when an all county title coming to the SW was a very rare event.  To compensate SW teams took it very seriously and there would be large crowds guaranteed for the final.

To stage the first round next weekend before most clubs have had a football out in anger is an insult to the clubs and entirely demeans the prestige of the event.

couldnt agree more BS. were away to Rasharkin this weekend and our lads havent even been on grass to train at this stage of the year! pure madness to play what is a competitive game at this stage on pitches that aint fit to take them
In total agreement on the above points well made.
The O' Cahan cup has lost its sheen for Cargin I fear as has been the case over the past few seasons and as the focus within has shifted and indeed the competition which used to feature as a priority at Toome no longer occupies such lofty position therein.
Of course the fact that the South West Board insists on a winter setting has had impact and the fact that 2017 will see them insist on a February start date and at a time when most if not all of the clubs have yet to set foot on grass further demean a competition which once had the highest regard.
The fact that the 'premier' event in the S West has lost its sheen has a double edged effect within clubs as they dispatch a weakened side in their O' Cahan assignments sending the good portion of their reserves into action and as a result ensure that those individuals will not be available for their own competition 'Mc Cormick Cup'.
As for the comment on the under-21 football championship this was revived in the late 1980s and for quite a time was fixed in and around March and proceeded on a weekly basis to be completed by April and proved hugely successful.
The under-21 hurling championship now occupies the 'early slot' and football has been banished to the muck of November :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 13, 2017, 01:48:27 PM
Will cargin not b trying to win the o cahan this year cb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2017, 11:11:51 PM
Interesting draws
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 13, 2017, 11:28:30 PM
Think its going to an all south west final? Thoughts?mr2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2017, 11:41:36 PM
Ports v Cargin, bannside should be happy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2017, 12:13:55 AM
Afraid not MR2. We need to find a way of beating your own illustrious Milltown men before entertain such lofty ambitions. Great draw for us though....nothing to lose again and all that!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 14, 2017, 12:42:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2017, 12:13:55 AM
Afraid not MR2. We need to find a way of beating your own illustrious Milltown men before entertain such lofty ambitions. Great draw for us though....nothing to lose again and all that!
Cannot figure out the draw on senior championship.............this is the third year of the seeding system and again a different application.

Can u explain how a seeding system operates BS when three of the entrants which were unseeded received respective places in the quarter finals whereas three of the seeded teams are to participate in preliminary round games.

Can I look forward to a Cargin v Creggan final ;)


Only in Antrim :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 14, 2017, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Galer on February 13, 2017, 01:48:27 PM
Will cargin not b trying to win the o cahan this year cb
Sorry to say Galer Cargin will not be focusing on the O' Cahan cup 2017......................well that is what I am hearing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2017, 08:22:54 AM
Focusing on Ulster this year instead CB where maybe youse might get a decent game of it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 09:11:18 AM
Yeah looking at the draw (in the order they appear) - at Junior level I would say we will probably know the winner after quarter final D when Ardoyne play the winners of Sarsfields and O'Donnell's. Have to say I am surprised that Antrim are in Intermediate this year - fair play to them for giving it a go but there is a big gap between Div 3 and Div 2 and as such I would have thought that they would have used a Div 2 campaign to try and have themselves toughened up for another crack at the Junior Championship after coming close a couple of times lately.  Anyway I will tip Ardoyne (just) after overcoming a tough examination from Sarsfields.

And speaking of Intermediate - I fancied Ballymena before the draw and no disrespect to Glenravel but they have virtually been given a bye to the semi final where they will probably meet one of St Enda's and St Brigids.  If they overcome either of these sides I cannot see anyone in the other half of the draw troubling them in the final.  That said should come with the massive caveat that Intermediate often sees unfancied teams prevail.

Senior - hard to look past semis featuring Creggan v St Galls and St Johns v Cargin - all too familiar really and the smart money will be on yet another Galls Cargin final (yawn).  I appreciate that St Johns and Creggan will feel that they have been improving year on year and reaching a point that they can cause an upset but not for me yet as the big two still have far too much know how.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 14, 2017, 09:53:32 AM
Cb cargin would need to watch they dont get 2 far in from of themselves you might find that a lot of teams will be catching the mighty toome men faster than u think.i hear the ts express is flat out doing extra training.quite unlike him at this stage of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 14, 2017, 10:00:35 AM
Junior-Ardoyne
Inter- Bmena
Senior-Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 14, 2017, 10:08:33 AM
Quote from: Galer on February 14, 2017, 09:53:32 AM
Cb cargin would need to watch they dont get 2 far in from of themselves you might find that a lot of teams will be catching the mighty toome men faster than u think.i hear the ts express is flat out doing extra training.quite unlike him at this stage of the year.
Dunno what u mean Galer.............Cargin in front of themselves?
Of course Cargin do realise they have a huge bulls eye emblazoned on their proverbial back for as long as I remember in the S West, and we still lead the way .........how many times has the O' Cahan cup been is residency at Toome?
TS is a one off and following a year in which he endured major surgery he is ensuring that he will be ready for another year and quite a few to follow..........as for extra training I think he has discovered an appetite for running and in such he is certainly up with the pace ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 14, 2017, 11:28:26 AM
CB   Top four teams were seeded to avoid each other to QF.
But being seeded did not equate to a bye in the preliminary round !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 14, 2017, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 14, 2017, 11:28:26 AM
CB   Top four teams were seeded to avoid each other to QF.
But being seeded did not equate to a bye in the preliminary round !
You may well be right delgany but in three years of 'seeding' in the county a different format was employed each time..........and again, 'only in Antrim'  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 09:11:18 AM
Yeah looking at the draw (in the order they appear) - at Junior level I would say we will probably know the winner after quarter final D when Ardoyne play the winners of Sarsfields and O'Donnell's. Have to say I am surprised that Antrim are in Intermediate this year - fair play to them for giving it a go but there is a big gap between Div 3 and Div 2 and as such I would have thought that they would have used a Div 2 campaign to try and have themselves toughened up for another crack at the Junior Championship after coming close a couple of times lately.  Anyway I will tip Ardoyne (just) after overcoming a tough examination from Sarsfields.

And speaking of Intermediate - I fancied Ballymena before the draw and no disrespect to Glenravel but they have virtually been given a bye to the semi final where they will probably meet one of St Enda's and St Brigids.  If they overcome either of these sides I cannot see anyone in the other half of the draw troubling them in the final.  That said should come with the massive caveat that Intermediate often sees unfancied teams prevail.

Senior - hard to look past semis featuring Creggan v St Galls and St Johns v Cargin - all too familiar really and the smart money will be on yet another Galls Cargin final (yawn).  I appreciate that St Johns and Creggan will feel that they have been improving year on year and reaching a point that they can cause an upset but not for me yet as the big two still have far too much know how.

Junior I think its hard to look past Ardoyne or Sarsfields.

Bit disprectful there to Glenravel Hectic. Local derby and anything can happen. Fair play to Antrim, a club who aren't scared to take on a challenge.

Cargin again for the senior I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
Yeah though if I am correct Antrim have been in 2 of the last 3/4 Junior Finals so would maybe have been good to take that step first but yeah ballsy all the same.  Plus I do not think anyone would have batted an eyelid had they been playing Div 2 but entered in the Junior.  Likewise surprised that Glenavy opted for the Senior Championship as they will be nowhere near it and again would have good grounds to be playing Intermediate.

I genuinely mean no disrespect to Glenravel though I appreciate that is exactly how it sounds but Ballymena held their own against St Johns for long periods in the senior championship last season whereas Glenravel will be warming up with games against Mitchells, Eire Og, Lisburn etc (again no disrespect meant).  I honestly cannot see how this will be anything other than a comfortable victory for Ballymena.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on February 14, 2017, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
Yeah though if I am correct Antrim have been in 2 of the last 3/4 Junior Finals so would maybe have been good to take that step first but yeah ballsy all the same.  Plus I do not think anyone would have batted an eyelid had they been playing Div 2 but entered in the Junior.  Likewise surprised that Glenavy opted for the Senior Championship as they will be nowhere near it and again would have good grounds to be playing Intermediate.

I genuinely mean no disrespect to Glenravel though I appreciate that is exactly how it sounds but Ballymena held their own against St Johns for long periods in the senior championship last season whereas Glenravel will be warming up with games against Mitchells, Eire Og, Lisburn etc (again no disrespect meant).  I honestly cannot see how this will be anything other than a comfortable victory for Ballymena.

Is there not a bye law of possibly just an unwritten rule that if you win the junior or intermediate championship you play the next grade up the following year, as current junior champions Glenravel would fall into this bracket.

As for Glenavy they should have beat Portglenone in the championship last year but for losing Paddy Gallagher to injury and  bit of naivety in letting Portglenone march up the field in added time to score a goal they would have been through so I can see why they would want another crack at the SFC, also they have won the IFC in the recent past so it possibly doesn't give them the same motivation as a run or scalp in the SFC.

Antrim are a different prospect whilst coming up short in a few junior finals would drive some teams to continuing competing at that  level until the win it outright, they have shown that they obviously have ambition above that and want to progress further and I think should be commended for that decision.

With our current league structure its perfectly set up to move in line with our championship i.e Div 1/SFC, Div 2/IFC, Div 3/JFC which would do away with any objections or confusion as to who should be playing where.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
Do you really think though that Glenavy would do anything at Senior level beyond accounting for one of the relegation candidates from Div 1?

Agree - Leagues and Championships aligned would be the way to go for me - simple and appropriate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on February 14, 2017, 01:40:06 PM
Probably not, but they have nothing to gain from an intermediate campaign that they are not guaranteed to win, I can see the logic in their decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 14, 2017, 01:59:07 PM
im quietly happy with the draw we got in the championship. I think we have proved we are more than capable of making ground in the championship and in avoiding Ballymena, St Brigid's & st endas we have a decent chance of making ground again.
All Saints will start as favourites for the whole thing, they will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
Yeah though if I am correct Antrim have been in 2 of the last 3/4 Junior Finals so would maybe have been good to take that step first but yeah ballsy all the same.  Plus I do not think anyone would have batted an eyelid had they been playing Div 2 but entered in the Junior.  Likewise surprised that Glenavy opted for the Senior Championship as they will be nowhere near it and again would have good grounds to be playing Intermediate.

I genuinely mean no disrespect to Glenravel though I appreciate that is exactly how it sounds but Ballymena held their own against St Johns for long periods in the senior championship last season whereas Glenravel will be warming up with games against Mitchells, Eire Og, Lisburn etc (again no disrespect meant).  I honestly cannot see how this will be anything other than a comfortable victory for Ballymena.

No disrespect lol... It is what it is. I'm sure Glenravel would rather be playing Div2 football but they aren't. Its the beauty of championship football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Sure we will continue this conversation after the quarter final then  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Sure we will continue this conversation after the quarter final then  ::)

Aye that'll do lol..  ;)

I always thought there was a rule that if you won a championship then you had to move up a level.. Maybe I am wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 14, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Sure we will continue this conversation after the quarter final then  ::)

Only if you go on to win the provisional championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Sure we will continue this conversation after the quarter final then  ::)

Aye that'll do lol..  ;)

I always thought there was a rule that if you won a championship then you had to move up a level.. Maybe I am wrong.

I am not criticizing - just think that Glenravel could not have got a tougher draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 03:08:48 PM
Sure we will continue this conversation after the quarter final then  ::)

Aye that'll do lol..  ;)

I always thought there was a rule that if you won a championship then you had to move up a level.. Maybe I am wrong.

I am not criticizing - just think that Glenravel could not have got a tougher draw.

In fairness they couldn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 14, 2017, 04:05:57 PM
As far as I am aware Antrim do not have a rule governing championship entry and indeed if Cargin, or St Gall's or any first division side elected to play in Intermediate championship no bye law does prohibit their entry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on February 14, 2017, 04:28:20 PM
Is there not rows galore in Antrim with teams effectively deciding what championship they enter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Big shout there with Dunloy, could go close if they get the hurlers out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 14, 2017, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 14, 2017, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2017, 04:28:20 PM
Is there not rows galore in Antrim with teams effectively deciding what championship they enter?
No, which suggests there is a rule of some sort. I always thought you could play up but not down.

Or maybe the teams themselves do not take the piss. You see debated here today that in the case of this year anyway it is more a case of teams aiming higher than those going the other way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2017, 06:49:38 PM
It used to happen more in the intermediate with division 1 teams but does seem to have stopped. Couod be right with rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
Aldergrove played intermediate last year as a div 1 team, so I don't think there is a rule to prevent teams playing championships beneath their league status.

I think glenravel played junior as a div 2 team a few years back too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 15, 2017, 07:56:59 AM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
Aldergrove played intermediate last year as a div 1 team, so I don't think there is a rule to prevent teams playing championships beneath their league status.

I think glenravel played junior as a div 2 team a few years back too.
As I said Stiffler no rule exists in Antrim to stop clubs selecting championship status....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 15, 2017, 08:21:42 AM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
Aldergrove played intermediate last year as a div 1 team, so I don't think there is a rule to prevent teams playing championships beneath their league status.

I think glenravel played junior as a div 2 team a few years back too.

Yeah that did not work out well for Aldergrove - as far as I remember they were beaten by their neighbours and Div 2 side Glenavy.  Glenravel won the Junior last year as a div 2 team though unlike Aldergrove they have been spending a lot of time in the Div below lately but as CB says this would suggest no rule.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 15, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Big shout there with Dunloy, could go close if they get the hurlers out.

We actually only have 12 dual players on the footballers and alot of them are the minors who came through from last season. Starters for them i would guess about 4 each week so the hurling doesnt impact at all on the football.

i would be hopefully that we could make another county final and get over the line this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 15, 2017, 08:57:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 15, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Big shout there with Dunloy, could go close if they get the hurlers out.

We actually only have 12 dual players on the footballers and alot of them are the minors who came through from last season. Starters for them i would guess about 4 each week so the hurling doesnt impact at all on the football.

i would be hopefully that we could make another county final and get over the line this time.

Big Woody a key man all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 16, 2017, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 15, 2017, 08:57:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 15, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Big shout there with Dunloy, could go close if they get the hurlers out.

We actually only have 12 dual players on the footballers and alot of them are the minors who came through from last season. Starters for them i would guess about 4 each week so the hurling doesnt impact at all on the football.

i would be hopefully that we could make another county final and get over the line this time.

Big Woody a key man all the same.
Yeah def, hes a good footballer on top of a hurler but we rarely see him in league action for the football till Antrim hurlers are all finished up.

To be fair we have done well to get to 2 finals in a row and we beat some good sides each time to get there so the ability is there its just getting them all there at one time each game and not burn out the lads who train with the hurlers as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 16, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
He is a guy who I always enjoy watching play - a bit of a throw back in a lot of ways where you can launch the ball in, watch him rise, gather, turn and find the net - a dying breed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 16, 2017, 07:06:14 PM
Are O Cahan cup games on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 16, 2017, 08:22:45 PM
Would assume so. Have not heard anything different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 16, 2017, 08:36:43 PM
All on it seems except Creggan v Antrim.....now Wed at Dunsilly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 16, 2017, 11:03:17 PM
Looking forward to the start of a new club season. I think this is going to be a particularly interesting year with a lot of teams capable of taking points off each other.

St Galls training hard already which is unheard of for them. Cargin out to prove without doubt they are top dogs in this current era whilst four or five other clubs look to be on a trajectory upward curve but time will tell if this is justified or false optimism.

Hoping we can signal our intent with a victory against Cargin on Sunday and kick on from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 17, 2017, 05:19:41 AM
I suppose that is fair enough BS. While I feel Sunday will not be a measure for what is to come it does not mean winning teams cannot use victory to build confidence and stir them on for the beginning of the campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 17, 2017, 08:39:14 AM
is the new pitch  up and running for games this season BS? i see they have done alot of ground works to the existing pitch around it as well.

Place is looking seriously good now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 17, 2017, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2017, 11:03:17 PM
Looking forward to the start of a new club season. I think this is going to be a particularly interesting year with a lot of teams capable of taking points off each other.

St Galls training hard already which is unheard of for them. Cargin out to prove without doubt they are top dogs in this current era whilst four or five other clubs look to be on a trajectory upward curve but time will tell if this is justified or false optimism.

Hoping we can signal our intent with a victory against Cargin on Sunday and kick on from there.
No doubt most will look forward to the start of the club activity BS and indeed such has always been the case in Cargin with the focus again on the championship.
The retention of the title hard won in the past two will most definitely prove just as difficult in 2017.
Upward trajectories is certainly a distinct possibility within the aims of a few but on the evidence of 2016 our nearest and dearest near neighbours from Creggan who came mighty close to upset last year may well prove just ahead of the chasing pack with the Johnnies, Lamh Dearg and maybe Rossa not far behind.
St Gall's can never be discounted and are in contention but the Blues have to gain recovery and last years showing in the '16 final was poor in the extreme. Can they regain in composure after a couple of reversals and back to back championship defeats is the question they need to provide answer.
Cargin have only had a single grass session thus far and although they will be doing of their best on Sunday a defeat by a hungrier and fitter Casement's cannot be ruled out............we lost our first two last year and I am hearing that neither the O'Cahan cup or league are respective prioirities.
The pack may well be closing as you may suggest BS but I have heard such tale before. ;)

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2017, 06:40:17 PM
Aye DR we have had a load of work done to tidy up O Cahan Park and it's looking a lot better. Made existing pitch a few yards longer and wider too, with a new fence around it. A lot still to do, tarmacing etc. Not before time I suppose! Then the second phase can commence...that will really have the place looking well.

A lot going on in the club atm, getting our Gold Club Maith award was a long haul too but now it's there.

If only our footballers could get within a beagles gowl of the big guns like Cargin we could start feeling good about ourselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2017, 09:48:38 PM
Cargin 1-11 Casements 0 -13. Good lively start to the year played before a reasonable crowd in Toome.  Both teams missing a few. Good clean sporting game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2017, 08:40:47 AM
rasharkin 1-07 Dunloy 1-08

pretty decent game to watch at this stage of the year. good crowd and the pitch was in really good condition. we were up by 4 at half time and rasharkin cam back at us to go up by 1 point. we managed to get back in front with a few points and then hold on to win.

5/6 of last years minors all playing with Keelan Molloy in fine scoring form.

decent game and well contested by both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 20, 2017, 09:20:38 AM
Couple of tight games there alright - anyone know the rest of the scores?

Great win for St Marys at the weekend - any Antrim lads in their team/squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 20, 2017, 10:14:41 AM
Good stuff - thank for the info - must not have registered with me as I skimmed along the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 20, 2017, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 20, 2017, 08:40:47 AM
rasharkin 1-07 Dunloy 1-08

pretty decent game to watch at this stage of the year. good crowd and the pitch was in really good condition. we were up by 4 at half time and rasharkin cam back at us to go up by 1 point. we managed to get back in front with a few points and then hold on to win.

5/6 of last years minors all playing with Keelan Molloy in fine scoring form.

decent game and well contested by both teams.

I see Dunloy are in the minor B championship this year, did you lose the majority of last years team DR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2017, 07:29:44 PM
yeah the majority of the whole team has moved on into senior. I know this group played B at under 16 grade so they felt they would be too weak to compete at A grade this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 20, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 20, 2017, 07:29:44 PM
yeah the majority of the whole team has moved on into senior. I know this group played B at under 16 grade so they felt they would be too weak to compete at A grade this year

Add that championship winning team into your senior squad that has reached 2 intermediate finals in a row , and that's a great blend of youthful skill and experience. Could be dark horses for promotion, however I am sure there are competing priorities for a lot of the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2017, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 20, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 20, 2017, 07:29:44 PM
yeah the majority of the whole team has moved on into senior. I know this group played B at under 16 grade so they felt they would be too weak to compete at A grade this year

Add that championship winning team into your senior squad that has reached 2 intermediate finals in a row , and that's a great blend of youthful skill and experience. Could be dark horses for promotion, however I am sure there are competing priorities for a lot of the players.

Be nice if we could keep them all in there all season.they are all mostly in the senior hurling panel as well so its getting a good balance between all the games they will be playing right is important.

Theres no reason why a club like ourselves shouldnt be competing at the top grade in football again with the numbers and resources we have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 20, 2017, 08:57:16 PM
Dunloy always had very good footballers, they were always the sort of team that if you drew in the Championship they would give you a far tougher examination than their league standing would have suggested. If they are in a position now where they have the resources to concentrate hard in both codes absolutely no reason why they cannot push on to senior level in football in the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 21, 2017, 08:45:27 AM
thats been the long term plan at the club after a few people sat down and basically sorted out the hash that had been created. Hurling and football had stopped working together at senior level and with the hurling being the main focus in the club it meant that football suffered for it.

Now this past number of years the two managements have sat down and sorted out sessions and come to a sensible arrangement that meant that players weren't been torn between both codes and that they got the rest that they needed in order to field at both codes. Its still working well and i hope it continues to do so as its generated an interest again in football that had died off a few years.

hurling will always be the number 1 in Dunloy but theres no reason that we cant operate both codes successfully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 25, 2017, 07:47:10 PM
So, is the trip to Corrigan Park one taken in hope, confidence, or dread?? Interested to see the team for first time this year, would love to see them on the front foot, attacking Sligo, rather than sitting back with 12 or 13 men behind the ball.

No team yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2017, 09:47:57 PM
Maybe Antrim can't boast 50 or 60 fast skilful quality players the way Tyrone can foe example.....but there's never an excuse in my book if we can't cobble 15 or 20 together at one time that can go out and give a good account of themselves, no matter what the opposition.

So tomorrow I'm expecting to be pleasantly surprised at how we take the game to Sligo and how competitive we remain. Sligo are not a bad team, but we are at home and football is about pride. So I be expecting a good performance and I'll deal with the result after that.

I think we can win by 2 and get the season started.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 09:57:07 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2017, 09:47:57 PM
Maybe Antrim can't boast 50 or 60 fast skilful quality players the way Tyrone can foe example.....but there's never an excuse in my book if we can't cobble 15 or 20 together at one time that can go out and give a good account of themselves, no matter what the opposition.

So tomorrow I'm expecting to be pleasantly surprised at how we take the game to Sligo and how competitive we remain. Sligo are not a bad team, but we are at home and football is about pride. So I be expecting a good performance and I'll deal with the result after that.

I think we can win by 2 and get the season started.
As to ur first paragraph I ask why not BS ?

As to yor second I say hope ur right.......and I really do wish I shared ur optimism.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2017, 12:17:00 PM
We are a mile away from the way Tyrone do things CB that's why. From as far back as 1995 when Declan O Neill from Omagh, with the help of Mark Conway set up a fundraising initiative called "towards the millenium" dedicated to improving Tyrone county football. That seed spawned dozens of copy cat replicas  (Club Doire, and in turn Club Aontroma etc). The idea was simple. Obtain several hundred signatures to a direct debit scheme that would go towards providing the finance to support a structure designed to see Tyrone compete at the highest level.  That was the first initiative of that kind which has morphed into Club Tir Eoghan and the Garvaghy centre of excellence. And of course three All Ireland titles and numerous u 21 and minor to boot.

In Tyrone Gaelic Football is a religion. Women are as fascinated in it as men. They take ladies football very seriously too whilst lip service is paid to hurling and soccer is just a nuisance. It's not uncommon to see a thousand people at a club game and I've seen this myself.

Gaelic Football is a matter of life and death in many oarts of Tyrone and this level of sheer unbridled passionate interest simply dosent exist in Antrim.....where Gaelic Football isn't even the number one Gaelic sport.

So whilst we can't realistically aspire to producing 60 players of a very high standard at the one time, surely we can do something more to produce 15 -25. If we can hit that target then we can maybe kick on from there. But even to do that we need to start upping the ante because if we don't we will start slipping further behind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2017, 01:54:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2017, 12:17:00 PM
We are a mile away from the way Tyrone do things CB that's why. From as far back as 1995 when Declan O Neill from Omagh, with the help of Mark Conway set up a fundraising initiative called "towards the millenium" dedicated to improving Tyrone county football. That seed spawned dozens of copy cat replicas  (Club Doire, and in turn Club Aontroma etc). The idea was simple. Obtain several hundred signatures to a direct debit scheme that would go towards providing the finance to support a structure designed to see Tyrone compete at the highest level.  That was the first initiative of that kind which has morphed into Club Tir Eoghan and the Garvaghy centre of excellence. And of course three All Ireland titles and numerous u 21 and minor to boot.

In Tyrone Gaelic Football is a religion. Women are as fascinated in it as men. They take ladies football very seriously too whilst lip service is paid to hurling and soccer is just a nuisance. It's not uncommon to see a thousand people at a club game and I've seen this myself.

Gaelic Football is a matter of life and death in many oarts of Tyrone and this level of sheer unbridled passionate interest simply dosent exist in Antrim.....where Gaelic Football isn't even the number one Gaelic sport.

So whilst we can't realistically aspire to producing 60 players of a very high standard at the one time, surely we can do something more to produce 15 -25. If we can hit that target then we can maybe kick on from there. But even to do that we need to start upping the ante because if we don't we will start slipping further behind.

As usual a measured response, we in Antrim unfortunately put club first and as long as our own house is in order then fine.... that goes for hurling also

We need to catch ourselves on first

As you've said other counties live and breathe GAA culture, we'd rather watch Celtic in our club rooms if there's club game on the pitch... supporters turning up at games in soccer tops, players (I've heard this myself) shouting over to a sub what's the score in some soccer game!!

Let's develop our kids let's look at creating an academy of excellence with players coming to it and getting specialist training with a professional set up with tactical input from various coaches... video analysis stat analysis educate players on nutrition conditioning and culture..

This won't happen without money unfortunately, small steps I suppose have been made but more required
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2017, 02:51:34 PM
It's not rocket science. Even some small but realistic initiative that would allow ourselves to actually believe that we are doing something about it.

We have possibly the most modern sports science facility on our doorsteps (SINI) with access to everything we need to produce outstanding athletes. We have access to all necessary coaching and training methods. (Ulster Coaching & Games Office) and a rebranded Club Aontroma who have secured pledges of financial assistance.

Surely we could combine these vital ingredients and send three or four of our very best players aged 15 -20 in each year group to start some kind of conveyor belt that would allow two or three players to emerge from that pipeline every year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2017, 02:56:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2017, 02:51:34 PM
It's not rocket science. Even some small but realistic initiative that would allow ourselves to actually believe that we are doing something about it.

We have possibly the most modern sports science facility on our doorsteps (SINI) with access to everything we need to produce outstanding athletes. We have access to all necessary coaching and training methods. (Ulster Coaching & Games Office) and a rebranded Club Aontroma who have secured pledges of financial assistance.

Surely we could combine these vital ingredients and send three or four of our very best players aged 15 -20 in each year group to start some kind of conveyor belt that would allow two or three players to emerge from that pipeline every year!

Totally, try it and see where it takes us, because if we continue to do what we are doing then we'll get the same results
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2017, 03:34:54 PM
Up the Saffrons. First points on the board as predicted. Held Sligo to two points in the second half. That's a good stat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 26, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)

You are just copying TS..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2017, 08:31:42 PM
Who did the scoring??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 27, 2017, 07:34:26 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 26, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)

You are just copying TS..

You got me there PJ.......he is my hero  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 27, 2017, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 26, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)

You are just copying TS..

He is TS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 27, 2017, 09:03:41 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 27, 2017, 07:34:26 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 26, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)

You are just copying TS..

You got me there PJ.......he is my hero  :)

He's some lad..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 27, 2017, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 27, 2017, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 26, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)

You are just copying TS..

He is TS

Prove it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 27, 2017, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 27, 2017, 08:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 26, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 26, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)

You are just copying TS..

He is TS

Prove it...

Prove its not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 27, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
Great result yesterday. Gives us some chance of staying up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 27, 2017, 02:41:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 27, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
Great result yesterday. Gives us some chance of staying up.

Couldn't make the game due other commitments. Seemed to be a good team performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 27, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
TS can't spell.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 27, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
TS can't spell.....

Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)


hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on February 27, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
Sligo were a good strong team.
The last point was worthy of winning a close game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: bogieman on February 27, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
Sligo were a good strong team.
The last point was worthy of winning a close game.

Who done the scoring for Antrim??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on February 27, 2017, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 27, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
TS can't spell.....

Great two points with a lotta solid performers but Patrick Mc Bride my m o m..... :)


hmmmmmm

Going by some of country bumpkins match reports he can't see, let alone spell.... Bannside would give him some run for his money all the same lol

The protagonist would say!!

But mr2 u boys wouldn't get to read it up in the bright lights!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
CJ scored 0.8, 6 frees, including the winner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
CJ scored 0.8, 6 frees, including the winner.

Tried to find proper match report but couldn't find one, thanks on scores... any other reports??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 28, 2017, 08:08:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
CJ scored 0.8, 6 frees, including the winner.

Tried to find proper match report but couldn't find one, thanks on scores... any other reports??

Haha - you want the run down then on how CJ put his doubters to the side for another day then ;)

I see div 3 kicks off this weekend - early favourites Sarsfields and Glenravel have potential banana skins to navigate as well which could see us off to an interesting start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 28, 2017, 08:08:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
CJ scored 0.8, 6 frees, including the winner.

Tried to find proper match report but couldn't find one, thanks on scores... any other reports??

Haha - you want the run down then on how CJ put his doubters to the side for another day then ;)

I see div 3 kicks off this weekend - early favourites Sarsfields and Glenravel have potential banana skins to navigate as well which could see us off to an interesting start.

Just surprised with the first win that the reports are sparce.... i couldnt care less who starred or didn't i'm g;ad they got off the mark against a decent team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 28, 2017, 09:56:29 AM
Yesterdays Irish News ICYMI

Allianz Football League Division Three: Antrim 0-11 Sligo 1-7

ANTRIM claimed their first win of the Allianz Football League with a gutsy one-point victory over Sligo in Corrigan Park yesterday.

CJ McGourty scored what proved to be the winning point with two minutes left when he fired over a stunning free from 45 yards out.

There was still time for further drama as Antrim were reduced to 14 men when Ryan Murray picked up his second yellow card for a cynical foul on Sligo's Eoin McHugh, while the outstanding Paddy McBride was shown black card in injury-time.

Mark Brehony had a chance to salvage a point for the visitors but his effort tailed wide as Antrim hung on to, much to the relief of joint manager Gearoid Adams

"There was a bit of pride in our play today," said Adams.

"We started off slow in the first half, maybe we showed a lack of self belief.

"I thought, in the second half, that performance was as good as anything. It was down to the wire and we held on. The last point from CJ was
an absolute cracker to win the game and we deserved it too."

McGourty's second free of the afternoon gave Antrim a 0-3 to 0-2 lead on 16 minutes,  but it was short-lived as Sligo struck for the game's only goal moments later.

A dangerous ball into the Antrim full-back line looked to be dealt with by Patrick Gallagher but the ball slipped through his hands and
fell kindly for Sligo
corner-forward Niall Murphy, who beat Chris Kerr with a well-taken shot into the bottom corner.

Further points from Murphy and Adrian Marren saw the Yeatsmen gain the upper hand.

Conor Murray broke Sligo's momentum with a much-needed score for the Saffrons but Niall Carew's men should have plundered their second goal when Kyle Cawley was played through by Neil Ewing but his blasted his shot over the crossbar with just Kerr to beat.

Stephen Beatty forced a fine save from Aidan Devaney at the other end of the pitch and two further frees from McGourty left Antrim trailing by two at the break.

McBride made light of the windy conditions when he scored an outrageous point from the sideline before Brehony hit back instantly for Sligo.

McGourty's fifth free cut the gap to a point before McBride's fine pass found the St Gall's ace unmarked on 45 minutes to clip over the equalising point.

The same pair linked up once more a minute later as McGourty punch the ball towards goal only to see Devaney push the ball over the crossbar.

Still, Antrim had the lead once more and Sligo appeared rattled. However, the Saffrons couldn't push on and a series of missed chances kept Sligo in the game. 

Substitute Charlie Harrison won a fairly dubious free which Marren converted to tie the game with five minutes remaining.

A foul on the industrious Conor Murray afforded McGourty the opportunity to restore Antrim's slender lead and he made no mistake on 68 minutes.

Antrim's tackling in the closing minutes left a lot to be desired with Ryan Murray and McBride being dismissed but the two points was all that mattered for the home side as Brehony's last-gasp effort missed the target.

Antrim: C Kerr; C Hamill, P Gallagher, P McAleer; P McBride 0-1, R McCann, P Healy; J Dowling, S Beatty; C Murray (0-1), R Murray (0-1), D Lynch; CJ McGourty (0-8, 0-6 frees), C Small, M Fitzpatrick.

Subs: S Donnelly for McCann (30), S McGarry for Small (64).

Black card: McBride (71) replaced by B Bradley

Yellow cards: Dowling (30), R Murray (63, 70), C Murray (73).

Red card: R Murray (70).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 28, 2017, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 28, 2017, 08:08:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 27, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
CJ scored 0.8, 6 frees, including the winner.

Tried to find proper match report but couldn't find one, thanks on scores... any other reports??

Haha - you want the run down then on how CJ put his doubters to the side for another day then ;)

I see div 3 kicks off this weekend - early favourites Sarsfields and Glenravel have potential banana skins to navigate as well which could see us off to an interesting start.

Just surprised with the first win that the reports are sparce.... i couldnt care less who starred or didn't i'm g;ad they got off the mark against a decent team

Of course - was just messing with the rest hence the ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on February 28, 2017, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: bogieman on February 27, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
Sligo were a good strong team.
The last point was worthy of winning a close game.

Who done the scoring for Antrim??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYoF_5fB0-M
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 01, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Wouldn't be many better forward lines than Tomas, Ryan, Matt Fitz, Conor Small and a really sharp CJ. All top notch footballers. As I said previously, we might not have 25 clinkers but we have no excuse if we can't send out 15 players at any one time to compete in division three.

Sean Pats progress should be watched with interest too and of some of the other really good young forwards there's Liam Quinn, Deaghlan Murphy and possibly Eamonn Fife to look forward to. Of course there's more that's not a definitive list by any means.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 01, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 01, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Wouldn't be many better forward lines than Tomas, Ryan, Matt Fitz, Conor Small and a really sharp CJ. All top notch footballers. As I said previously, we might not have 25 clinkers but we have no excuse if we can't send out 15 players at any one time to compete in division three.

Sean Pats progress should be watched with interest too and of some of the other really good young forwards there's Liam Quinn, Deaghlan Murphy and possibly Eamonn Fife to look forward to. Of course there's more that's not a definitive list by any means.

Good footballers but would they get their place on any of the other Ulster county forward lines?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 01, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 01, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Wouldn't be many better forward lines than Tomas, Ryan, Matt Fitz, Conor Small and a really sharp CJ. All top notch footballers. As I said previously, we might not have 25 clinkers but we have no excuse if we can't send out 15 players at any one time to compete in division three.

Sean Pats progress should be watched with interest too and of some of the other really good young forwards there's Liam Quinn, Deaghlan Murphy and possibly Eamonn Fife to look forward to. Of course there's more that's not a definitive list by any means.

Tomas gone from the panel from what I can hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 01, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 01, 2017, 08:09:41 PM
Wouldn't be many better forward lines than Tomas, Ryan, Matt Fitz, Conor Small and a really sharp CJ. All top notch footballers. As I said previously, we might not have 25 clinkers but we have no excuse if we can't send out 15 players at any one time to compete in division three.

Sean Pats progress should be watched with interest too and of some of the other really good young forwards there's Liam Quinn, Deaghlan Murphy and possibly Eamonn Fife to look forward to. Of course there's more that's not a definitive list by any means.

Tomas gone from the panel from what I can hear

Bigger fish to fry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 01, 2017, 10:38:36 PM
Just breaking for a few weeks his wife had another child.

Some score from Kevin Small to win that replay tonight. Watched it on Armagh TV.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 01, 2017, 10:51:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 01, 2017, 10:38:36 PM
Just breaking for a few weeks his wife had another child.

Some score from Kevin Small to win that replay tonight. Watched it on Armagh TV.

I hope you are right BS.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 02, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Outside of the absence of Tomas wondering just where have his brothers Michael and Paul gone, andjust where are Justin Crozier, John Carron, the Burke brothers, Sean and Conor, Mickey Pollock, Ricki Johnston, Niall Mc Keever, Paddy Kelly, Eoin Mc Neill, Benny Hasson gone ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 02, 2017, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Outside of the absence of Tomas wondering just where have his brothers Michael and Paul gone, andjust where are Justin Crozier, John Carron, the Burke brothers, Sean and Conor, Mickey Pollock, Ricki Johnston, Niall Mc Keever, Paddy Kelly, Eoin Mc Neill, Benny Hasson gone ?

Benny Hasson left Rasharkin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 02, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?

Three from Moneyglass as well, two starters and one on the bench. Hopefully bodes well for Antrim football in the long run.

Liam Quinn still minor but Small is overage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2017, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2017, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Outside of the absence of Tomas wondering just where have his brothers Michael and Paul gone, andjust where are Justin Crozier, John Carron, the Burke brothers, Sean and Conor, Mickey Pollock, Ricki Johnston, Niall Mc Keever, Paddy Kelly, Eoin Mc Neill, Benny Hasson gone ?

Benny Hasson left Rasharkin?

Been discussed here before i think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 02, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?

Three from Moneyglass as well, two starters and one on the bench. Hopefully bodes well for Antrim football in the long run.

Liam Quinn still minor but Small is overage

Cheers. It is good to see although i so,etimes think it is worrying that most of the best of our south west talent gets coached schools football in derry!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 02, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 02, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 02, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?

Three from Moneyglass as well, two starters and one on the bench. Hopefully bodes well for Antrim football in the long run.

Liam Quinn still minor but Small is overage

Cheers. It is good to see although i so,etimes think it is worrying that most of the best of our south west talent gets coached schools football in derry!

Agree it's worrying but at least they are getting coached somewhere and bringing it back here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2017, 10:22:24 PM
I recall Quinn and Small standing out at under 12 level before they went to St Mary's Grammar Mfelt....so I wouldn't be too quick to say that their school was where they learned to play football. Marty Johnston was class for St Patrick's Ballymena before he transferred to St Pats Maghera. Just saying......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 03, 2017, 07:49:16 AM
Is Adams not coaching Gaelic football up in Ballymena?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2017, 08:50:51 AM
he teaches at St Louis in Ballymena, hes involved in the football there at the school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 03, 2017, 09:57:05 AM
Are they making any strides under him?  Not a MacRory team to the best of my knowledge?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 03, 2017, 11:31:27 AM
Would tend to agree with Bannsides sentiments, whilst the coaching they are receiving in the Derry schools is helping the good work done in the clubs is where those boys got a solid grounding.

Also an Antrim man who is at the helm of the St Marys MacRory coaching panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on March 03, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 02, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 02, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?

Three from Moneyglass as well, two starters and one on the bench. Hopefully bodes well for Antrim football in the long run.

Liam Quinn still minor but Small is overage

Cheers. It is good to see although i so,etimes think it is worrying that most of the best of our south west talent gets coached schools football in derry!

Agree it's worrying but at least they are getting coached somewhere and bringing it back here.

Not worrying at all.

We (Antrim) need to focus on coaching in the clubs. We also need to focus on certain schools. For example St Louis and St Mary's De La Sal, etc, because these schools serve Antrim clubs in their areas.

But due to our geography, we can take advance of Magherafelt, St Pius, Maghera, Lurgan, Coleraine and in some cases Colmans to serve Clubs from other areas

In theory, Antrim should be in a great position for youth coaching
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 03, 2017, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on March 03, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 02, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 02, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?

Three from Moneyglass as well, two starters and one on the bench. Hopefully bodes well for Antrim football in the long run.

Liam Quinn still minor but Small is overage

Cheers. It is good to see although i so,etimes think it is worrying that most of the best of our south west talent gets coached schools football in derry!

Agree it's worrying but at least they are getting coached somewhere and bringing it back here.

Not worrying at all.

We (Antrim) need to focus on coaching in the clubs. We also need to focus on certain schools. For example St Louis and St Mary's De La Sal, etc, because these schools serve Antrim clubs in their areas.

But due to our geography, we can take advance of Magherafelt, St Pius, Maghera, Lurgan, Coleraine and in some cases Colmans to serve Clubs from other areas

In theory, Antrim should be in a great position for youth coaching

So focus on a select few grammar schools and forget the rest?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 03, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
What are the other schools outside Belfast?  Garron Tower springs to mind but is it not a hurling catchment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 03, 2017, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on March 03, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 02, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 02, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 02, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
A hell of a lot of creggan guys on that team (well squad) from magherafelt who made it to macrory tonight which is good to see.

Quinn and small looked like big talents from what i saw last year.

Are they minor again?

Three from Moneyglass as well, two starters and one on the bench. Hopefully bodes well for Antrim football in the long run.

Liam Quinn still minor but Small is overage

Cheers. It is good to see although i so,etimes think it is worrying that most of the best of our south west talent gets coached schools football in derry!

Agree it's worrying but at least they are getting coached somewhere and bringing it back here.

Not worrying at all.

We (Antrim) need to focus on coaching in the clubs. We also need to focus on certain schools. For example St Louis and St Mary's De La Sal, etc, because these schools serve Antrim clubs in their areas.

But due to our geography, we can take advance of Magherafelt, St Pius, Maghera, Lurgan, Coleraine and in some cases Colmans to serve Clubs from other areas

In theory, Antrim should be in a great position for youth coaching

So focus on a select few grammar schools and forget the rest?

If the secondary schools in Belfast joined together to form a team then you may have something (not at MacRory cup level), but I'd say most secondary schools dont have the numbers or the tradition to compete with the rest.

schools in my day you had 300 pupils in seconardy schools, of which everyone left at 5th year, if they had a brain they went on to St Mary's... not much has change and some schools cater for lower and upper 6th but to be honest they wouldnt have the numbers to compete with anyone... And of course you have the soccer element to deal with
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 03, 2017, 01:24:31 PM
In South Derry this year, St Mary's Magherafelt, St Pius X Magherafelt and St Mary's Clady all reached the latter stages of the three college football competitions.
St Mary's Magherafelt, did make the Mc Crory final as did the school from Clady reaching  in the Doherty Cup final......with St Pius X losing by a couple of points in the Mc Larnon semi.

Antrim schools...... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
Clady beat Aquinas Grammar in the Doherty semi final, after a replay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on March 03, 2017, 02:56:11 PM
St Louis also lost in the McLarnon semi. As previously stated, St Mary's had 7 Antrim men playing on Wednesday. St Pius's also had at least one involved for them.
It's more encouraging than in previous years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 03, 2017, 04:31:35 PM
Two from Cargin on Pius X team....Joe Maybin and J Gribbin and expect to see both as county minors and on our senior panel this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 03, 2017, 05:54:36 PM
I find the college football is where a lot of boys kick on from being good to very good or excellent footballers.  It is a great advantage for a club to be situated close to a footballing school. Playing and training at such a high level can't be replicated within club level from u14-minor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 03, 2017, 05:54:36 PM
I find the college football is where a lot of boys kick on from being good to very good or excellent footballers.  It is a great advantage for a club to be situated close to a footballing school. Playing and training at such a high level can't be replicated within club level from u14-minor.

Hmm or not, we'd no Macrory cup winners and did ok, kids play football up to a point and may move to a college and do nothing!! We lost loads of cracking players over the years who went on and did something else...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:08:48 PM
Mr i always thought your club benefited a lot from university football though. Large number of ai team played sigerson for one college or another.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:08:48 PM
Mr i always thought your club benefited a lot from university football though. Large number of ai team played sigerson for one college or another.

We talking macrory or college?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
University football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
University football.

Ah, as the posts were about school football, but yeah we'd a few lads at college that done well, including one winning it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
University football.

Ah, as the posts were about school football, but yeah we'd a few lads at college that done well, including one winning it...
To be fair, you'd a few lads who did well with their schools too.

They never competed at the top table of MacRory cup level, but sure you'd know that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2017, 11:39:09 PM
A scatter of All Stars though.

Quality, and explain how they are given out? What's the process
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2017, 12:16:15 AM
Trial and picked by people on the Ulster council... anyways you are getting away from the point on MacRory cup football within Antrim.... not once have we won it with that group of lads, I'm more well aware of what that group won... c and Mclaron cup wins are fine and dandy but we won't compete at the top table until we have have a plan put in place that matches the rest of the Ulster schools
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 04, 2017, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
University football.

Ah, as the posts were about school football, but yeah we'd a few lads at college that done well, including one winning it...

I get that. I am just saying you guys did also benefit from coaching outside of antrim.

Belfast schools suffer a bit with the dual thing. St marys were in the macrory for a few years not that long ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Leyland on March 04, 2017, 08:36:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 04, 2017, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
University football.

Ah, as the posts were about school football, but yeah we'd a few lads at college that done well, including one winning it...

I get that. I am just saying you guys did also benefit from coaching outside of antrim.

Belfast schools suffer a bit with the dual thing. St marys were in the macrory for a few years not that long ago.

Belfast schools suffer a bit from dual thing? Then can you explain Magheras success over the years???

Unfortunately we love excuses in our county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 04, 2017, 08:49:46 AM
Much bigger catchment area.South derry plus some of north derry plus areas in sw antrim.

Maybe it is an excuse as i don't know enough about the schools in belfast. Always thought one or two should be competing in macrory.

Actually to be fair not jut hurling is in competition - some of the schools big in soccer too. Does maghera even have a soccer team??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 04, 2017, 06:49:48 PM
Jeez hard to wear that one ITG.....bigger catchment area...jeez Belfast has over 600k residents, nearly triple that if County Derry.
Those three 'succcessful' schools/colleges, Maghera, St Mary's and Pius are based in small towns with the latter duo in the same town.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 12:34:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 04, 2017, 06:49:48 PM
Jeez hard to wear that one ITG.....bigger catchment area...jeez Belfast has over 600k residents, nearly triple that if County Derry.
Those three 'succcessful' schools/colleges, Maghera, St Mary's and Pius are based in small towns with the latter duo in the same town.

Just in case you didn't read the previous posts I'll explain it one more time.... Belfast schools don't invest in football at that level! You now understand that?

Having one or two players playing for MacRory cup teams in Derry has not (again has not) helped Antrim football or clubs being competitive! You agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 05, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
I've said it before and I will say it again. It is vital that we try to focus heavy on Gaelic games in our schools.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 05, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 12:34:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 04, 2017, 06:49:48 PM
Jeez hard to wear that one ITG.....bigger catchment area...jeez Belfast has over 600k residents, nearly triple that if County Derry.
Those three 'succcessful' schools/colleges, Maghera, St Mary's and Pius are based in small towns with the latter duo in the same town.

Just in case you didn't read the previous posts I'll explain it one more time.... Belfast schools don't invest in football at that level! You now understand that?

Having one or two players playing for MacRory cup teams in Derry has not (again has not) helped Antrim football or clubs being competitive! You agree?

Belfast dragging the county standard down again... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 05, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 12:34:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 04, 2017, 06:49:48 PM
Jeez hard to wear that one ITG.....bigger catchment area...jeez Belfast has over 600k residents, nearly triple that if County Derry.
Those three 'succcessful' schools/colleges, Maghera, St Mary's and Pius are based in small towns with the latter duo in the same town.

Just in case you didn't read the previous posts I'll explain it one more time.... Belfast schools don't invest in football at that level! You now understand that?

Having one or two players playing for MacRory cup teams in Derry has not (again has not) helped Antrim football or clubs being competitive! You agree?

Belfast dragging the county standard down again... ;)

They are as good as those SW schools  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on March 05, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 12:34:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 04, 2017, 06:49:48 PM
Jeez hard to wear that one ITG.....bigger catchment area...jeez Belfast has over 600k residents, nearly triple that if County Derry.
Those three 'succcessful' schools/colleges, Maghera, St Mary's and Pius are based in small towns with the latter duo in the same town.

Just in case you didn't read the previous posts I'll explain it one more time.... Belfast schools don't invest in football at that level! You now understand that?

Having one or two players playing for MacRory cup teams in Derry has not (again has not) helped Antrim football or clubs being competitive! You agree?

I'd say Cargin has been helped greatly by Derry schools. Cargin teams in the 90's were backboned with Kelly, Lynns, O'Neils, Johnson, Quinn, McPeak, McCanns, who were schooled in the Derry. Likewise more recently with Tomas and Mike McCann, Close, Crozer, O'Boyle

Creggan have more recently benefited from the Convent and Maghera, and has helped with their development from Div 2 to strong Div 1 team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 06, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Antrim had a good rattle at Louth yesterday and as expected we held our own for most of the game. If the truth was told we missed more than them, including a few decent goal chances that at least we were making.

Ryan Murray was a big loss when he went off after 15 mins although Sean Pat more the held his own when introduced. An exciting talent. Paddy Mc Aleer is growing with every game and Peter Healy can expect from to wear Saffron for the considerable future.

You never like losing...but if Louth gain promotion to div 2, I really don't think we are as far behind them as you think. Yesterday could have gone either way!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 11:14:07 AM
Sarsfields and Glenravel quick out of the blocks yesterday in Div 3.  I thought one of them might have been caught cold being early doors but already looking like they are going to be a cut above the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 11:24:18 AM
Should have added as well a good solid start for Pearses who I know are at club that feel they have been progressing nicely and are looking to continue along the same upward curve - an old club with a decent history.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on March 06, 2017, 11:56:40 AM
Sarsfields were on after our game yesterday, they looked strong and fit. Some of there lads on the line were saying they had a few missing also, county hurlers etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 06, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 11:14:07 AM
Sarsfields and Glenravel quick out of the blocks yesterday in Div 3.  I thought one of them might have been caught cold being early doors but already looking like they are going to be a cut above the rest.

You could well be right Hectic, but i think after 1 game its a bit premature to say that, suppose we will find out in next 5-6 weeks how things will shape up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2017, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 06, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 11:14:07 AM
Sarsfields and Glenravel quick out of the blocks yesterday in Div 3.  I thought one of them might have been caught cold being early doors but already looking like they are going to be a cut above the rest.

You could well be right Hectic, but i think after 1 game its a bit premature to say that, suppose we will find out in next 5-6 weeks how things will shape up.

Agree Mac. There are banana skins throughout this division so who knows what'll happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
I would say the only banana skins for Sarsfields and Glenravel will be complacency.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 06, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
I would say the only banana skins for Sarsfields and Glenravel will be complacency.

Too good for D3, not good enough for D2.
If only there was a division in between for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:53:46 PM
That's what it certainly looks like to me Christmas lights - both seem to have been going on the Div 2/Div 3 cycle for some time now though Div 3 is now weaker than ever after the restructuring that ironically enough Sarsfields pushed for - the reward is that they now have a season with only one challenger rather than the previous three.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 06, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
I would say the only banana skins for Sarsfields and Glenravel will be complacency.

Too good for D3, not good enough for D2.
If only there was a division in between for them

In fact could probably extend that to include Ardoyne, Randalstown, Antrim and Rasharkin and you would have a nice competitive wee group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2017, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 06, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
I would say the only banana skins for Sarsfields and Glenravel will be complacency.

Too good for D3, not good enough for D2.
If only there was a division in between for them

In fact could probably extend that to include Ardoyne, Randalstown, Antrim and Rasharkin and you would have a nice competitive wee group.

Not sure if Randalstown would fit into that bracket.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 06, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 06, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
I would say the only banana skins for Sarsfields and Glenravel will be complacency.

Too good for D3, not good enough for D2.
If only there was a division in between for them

In fact could probably extend that to include Ardoyne, Randalstown, Antrim and Rasharkin and you would have a nice competitive wee group.

What about Davitts, think they would fit into that bracket, then the leagues would be as they were. dropping St T's, A/grove, A/Gallon and St P'S down to Div 2. but in a years time a few clubs will find this doesn't suit them and bam the leagues will have to change again. There will be mis- matches in every league in every county, some greater than others. as long as their aren't too many of them then we should just leave things for a few years and let things settle in for once. For the majority of teams things will level out Bar a few.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2017, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 06, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 06, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
I would say the only banana skins for Sarsfields and Glenravel will be complacency.

Too good for D3, not good enough for D2.
If only there was a division in between for them

In fact could probably extend that to include Ardoyne, Randalstown, Antrim and Rasharkin and you would have a nice competitive wee group.

What about Davitts, think they would fit into that bracket, then the leagues would be as they were. dropping St T's, A/grove, A/Gallon and St P'S down to Div 2. but in a years time a few clubs will find this doesn't suit them and bam the leagues will have to change again. There will be mis- matches in every league in every county, some greater than others. as long as their aren't too many of them then we should just leave things for a few years and let things settle in for once. For the majority of teams things will level out Bar a few.

A wise suggestion Gizzy, but as we both know, being wise and having common sense doesn't come into it when it comes to changing leagues etc.
Sarsfields could do the double this season if they win the JFC, must be a rebuilding job in the bearpit in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 06, 2017, 03:49:14 PM
I see the Under 21's are in action on Wednesday night against Monaghan in the DUB.

There hasn't been much noise about our U21's this year does anybody have any insight into our chances of what sort of a squad has been assembled?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 04:27:01 PM
Davitts surprised me last year, I will be interested to see if they can build on that this year. I would be confident Aghagallon will stay up this year then kick on. I think Randalstown will be fighting the drop if Ardoyne come out of the blocks fast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2017, 08:03:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2017, 04:27:01 PM
Davitts surprised me last year, I will be interested to see if they can build on that this year. I would be confident Aghagallon will stay up this year then kick on. I think Randalstown will be fighting the drop if Ardoyne come out of the blocks fast.

Ardoyne & Antrim to come down I think although I'd love Antrim to stay up, a great club who are putting in serious effort.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 06, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
U 21s has been a lot harder this year than ever to coordinate because there are up to eight of them on the senior panel. That meant the turnout was fairly low when the rest did manage to get together. So in that regard it's been quiet.

However there should still be 15 ready to go that should give a good  account of themselves. Monaghan will be strong but I'd expect from us to be competitive at the very least and after that hope for the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
U 21s has been a lot harder this year than ever to coordinate because there are up to eight of them on the senior panel. That meant the turnout was fairly low when the rest did manage to get together. So in that regard it's been quiet.

However there should still be 15 ready to go that should give a good  account of themselves. Monaghan will be strong but I'd expect from us to be competitive at the very least and after that hope for the best.

Any idea of the panel BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2017, 05:33:12 PM
No idea at all PJ that's the truth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
Just heard the team for tomorrow. Good luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 07, 2017, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 07, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
Just heard the team for tomorrow. Good luck to all involved.

Where you see the team ? Many SW representatives?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Rasharkin, Portglenone, St John's, Aghagallon, Aghagallon, St Endas, St John's, St Endas, Lamh Dhearg, Moneyglass, Creggan, Aldergrove, St Endas, Aghagallon and Glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 07, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Rasharkin, Portglenone, St John's, Aghagallon, Aghagallon, St Endas, St John's, St Endas, Lamh Dhearg, Moneyglass, Creggan, Aldergrove, St Endas, Aghagallon and Glenravel.

What's the team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 08, 2017, 09:16:03 AM
None of our lads there this year again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2017, 10:03:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 08, 2017, 09:16:03 AM
None of our lads there this year again?

no Cargin either, they have a county ban on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 08, 2017, 09:16:03 AM
None of our lads there this year again?

Was there a trial for them to attend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 08, 2017, 10:30:30 AM
Did you miss your invite PaddyJohn?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 08, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
ive honestly no idea if they were, i must find out because theres plenty of them more than good enough. The minors from last year are all training with our seniors at the moment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:47:39 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 08, 2017, 10:30:30 AM
Did you miss your invite PaddyJohn?

I'm not under 21 stone never mind age..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 08, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
ive honestly no idea if they were, i must find out because theres plenty of them more than good enough. The minors from last year are all training with our seniors at the moment.

I would of though that there would of been notice on the website and surely it's up to the clubs and players to attend, or at least that's the way it should be done IMO. You've 3/4 lads more than capable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
No Rossa either. They beat St Endas in the county semi final and had a few very tidy looking players in the county final versus Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 11:05:18 AM
Who is the Un21 manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2017, 11:10:38 AM
Sean Mc Goldrick from St Teresa's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 08, 2017, 09:28:20 PM
All over at the Dub....Antrim 0-16 Monaghan 2-14.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 08, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
Disappointing. A game that was definitely there to be won. Lost our way totally midway through the second half, couldn't work out what do with our own kickouts, lost possession on the majority of them and some poor decision making when on the ball. Our boys scored some lovely points and were well in the game until last few minutes. That was helped by some very poor Monaghan shooting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2017, 11:09:14 PM
I spoke at length to some Monaghan people who couldn't belive the fright they got tonight. In their words Monaghan were prepared to the hilt and had been going strong since September. Not only are they reigning U 21 champions but won this year's Hastings cup (warm up tournament) and had an impeccable build up to tonight's game.

We matched them for long periods but as Brendan said ran out of steam a bit about fifteen out.

Their were plenty of Antrim officials at the match who must surely have gone home wondering what may have happened if we had matched even 50% of Monaghan preparation.

Fair play to the lads for throwing the kitchen sink at it. You really did us proud at times tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 08, 2017, 11:49:11 PM
Good performance from u21 s but a defeat is still a defeat.if team had prepared themselves or been properly prepared might have created a glorious victory and there is nothing this county needs more than a lift
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 09, 2017, 07:43:31 AM
Quote from: Galer on March 08, 2017, 11:49:11 PM
Good performance from u21 s but a defeat is still a defeat.if team had prepared themselves or been properly prepared might have created a glorious victory and there is nothing this county needs more than a lift
Surely we did have Vision  😐
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2017, 09:03:26 AM
the vision is getting more and more blurry with each passing month.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
Nothing blurry about what I witnessed last night at the Dub. We have enough quality in the ranks aged 17 -22 for the county to invest properly in.

Monaghan only beat us last night because their preparations were vastly superior. Not because they had better footballers.

No one can tell me that with a bit of proper foresight and energy to make right, Antrim couldn't be playing division two in three or four years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 09, 2017, 10:26:20 AM
Thoroughly enjoyed the game last night and while some great performances and serious talent on show I came away somewhat disappointed that we didn't get something out of the game.

Some great individual and team scores but Monaghan scored with worrying ease at times, and when they pushed a man up in the second half we looked slightly devoid of ideas in terms of getting the ball from kickouts and building attacks. All in all though positive that there certainly is a raft of talent coming through.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 09, 2017, 10:43:49 AM
Who showed up well for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2017, 11:00:36 AM
Seamus Mc Garry Aldergrove was outstanding. Paddy Mc Cormick Moneyglass likewise. Peter Healy still continues to impress. Those three the pick for me. On current form I would expect all three to be in contention for senior duty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 09, 2017, 12:41:44 PM
Apologies - I dont know the players to see and don't programme. Our #2 was very good,made a couple of great breakouts from defence. Ruairi Scott was strong, I know he is already in the senior squad and yes, Seamus McGarry was class.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 09, 2017, 01:38:44 PM
#2 was Pat Brannigan from Aghagallon and he did indeed have a good game, I was disappointed in Ruairi Scott thought he was well below the standards we have seen from him before, not a criticism just think on the night he was poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 09, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 09, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
Nothing blurry about what I witnessed last night at the Dub. We have enough quality in the ranks aged 17 -22 for the county to invest properly in.

Monaghan only beat us last night because their preparations were vastly superior. Not because they had better footballers.

No one can tell me that with a bit of proper foresight and energy to make right, Antrim couldn't be playing division two in three or four years.
And as u already stated BS.....no preparation at all for a championship game.??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2017, 02:50:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 09, 2017, 09:18:07 AM
Nothing blurry about what I witnessed last night at the Dub. We have enough quality in the ranks aged 17 -22 for the county to invest properly in.

Monaghan only beat us last night because their preparations were vastly superior. Not because they had better footballers.

No one can tell me that with a bit of proper foresight and energy to make right, Antrim couldn't be playing division two in three or four years.

So what do you suggest BS? How do we turn these lads into a team that compete in Div2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2017, 06:36:54 PM
What did Monaghan do a few years ago before they were even contemplating winning Ulster finals? They set out their stall and went for the best manager in the business. Who in turn brought in an exceptional backroom team. The business community saw what was happening and got behind it financially. The players bought into it wholeheartedly. Their was enormous pride in the Jersey and competition for places was at a premium.

They win 2 Ulster senior titles and two U21 titles in the space of a few years. The county is now football crazy and this in turn is already feeding the next generation.

I believe strongly that we have the players to invest in. But the county (from top down) needs to wake up and see this potential and grasp the nettle before another generation passes through the revolving door of Div3/Div4 football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 09, 2017, 09:32:23 PM
Agree with that. And we d have a good crop right now I feel. Our minors have won first round Ulster matches fairly regularly recently but lost out in later stages. I missed last years Sunday night game v Donegal at Corrigan but by all reports we matched them. The development squads have had good results too.

A sidenote - isn't the Dub a brilliant venue for football? Only two years ago we drew in Armagh at U21 and the UC specifically ruled out the Dub as a venue for the replay, and our reward for the draw was a home game played at Newry. Something has changed in the meantime. So how about our Nat League matches at the Dub? I think our players would love that and the comfortable surroundings would help draw decent crowds.

All said with respect to Naomh Eoin who pull out all the stops for hosting games, but it is not a pleasant fan experience in the cold and wind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 10, 2017, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 09, 2017, 09:32:23 PM
Agree with that. And we d have a good crop right now I feel. Our minors have won first round Ulster matches fairly regularly recently but lost out in later stages. I missed last years Sunday night game v Donegal at Corrigan but by all reports we matched them. The development squads have had good results too.

A sidenote - isn't the Dub a brilliant venue for football? Only two years ago we drew in Armagh at U21 and the UC specifically ruled out the Dub as a venue for the replay, and our reward for the draw was a home game played at Newry. Something has changed in the meantime. So how about our Nat League matches at the Dub? I think our players would love that and the comfortable surroundings would help draw decent crowds.

All said with respect to Naomh Eoin who pull out all the stops for hosting games, but it is not a pleasant fan experience in the cold and wind.
A big crowd at the Dub............. ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2017, 03:28:34 PM
I don't know what that ⬆️⬆️⬆️ means
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on March 10, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
Word that there was a vote in Aghagallon to join Armagh but it didn't get the required majority...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on March 10, 2017, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on March 10, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
Word that there was a vote in Aghagallon to join Armagh but it didn't get the required majority...

Antrim hardliners warn Armagh keep your hands of Aghagallon.

Recent attempts to annexe Aghagallon into Armagh have met with strong opposition among staunch Antrimites. Although most in the village are virtually accepted as lurganites in everyway they refuse to join their lurgan neighbours and just be Armagh.
there has to be a 70 to 30 vote or else military force to annexe Aghagallon and there have been strong calls for this on the lough road.
One angry Aghagallon man "said youse
lurgan bastids never wanted us now we have a senior gaelic team a world class singer Ciaran Lavery a lad playing for the Republic of Ireland,and some nice lookin women, now you want us in Armagh youse can feck aff"
In fairness the grapevine has always stood up for the Gs and sure didnt Down annexe the Bleary in 1961 when they won the All Ireland before that most Bleary people were quite happy to be in Armagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 10, 2017, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2017, 03:28:34 PM
I don't know what that ⬆️⬆️⬆️ means
Means that a crowd at a Belfast venue would be a rare event BB.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
Biggest crowd I have seen at an Antrim game recently was the McKenna Cup game v Queens last year at.....The Dub.

Crowd on Wednesday night was pretty decent too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2017, 02:42:58 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
Biggest crowd I have seen at an Antrim game recently was the McKenna Cup game v Queens last year at.....The Dub.

Crowd on Wednesday night was pretty decent too.

But he'd have seen that if he was there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 11, 2017, 06:17:22 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
Biggest crowd I have seen at an Antrim game recently was the McKenna Cup game v Queens last year at.....The Dub.

Crowd on Wednesday night was pretty decent too.
Depends on what u refer to as 'decent' BA....a couple of hundred is of standard for our urban dwellers to witness our games therein.
Was at the last NFL game via Sligo and about 50-100 were in attendance at Corrigan, and indeed some nearby residents who would profess to have Saffron blood were on the 'Board' posting requests for info.....'who did the scoring' etc......  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 12, 2017, 10:05:36 PM
Bit of a shock in div3 football with Sarsfields losing V Pearses. Glenravel racked up some score. O'Dees drawing with Ballycastle also a shock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances.

Clubs like Mitchels deserve huge credit, they got a new pitch etc in Poleglass didn't they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 10:57:01 AM
Yeah you would hope the determination that keeps seeing them plug away in the face of many heavy defeats will see them grow bit by bit.  Sometimes more to the thing than just winning matches and it would be nice to see them begin to progress upward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances.

Clubs like Mitchels deserve huge credit, they got a new pitch etc in Poleglass didn't they?

Is this the same kind of arrangement as Ardoyne's new 'Home' pitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances.

Clubs like Mitchels deserve huge credit, they got a new pitch etc in Poleglass didn't they?

Is this the same kind of arrangement as Ardoyne's new 'Home' pitch?

Was there not 3 or 4 new pitches built in Belfast? Poleglass, Ozone, Ardoyne and Woodlands?

Surely this is only a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances.

Clubs like Mitchels deserve huge credit, they got a new pitch etc in Poleglass didn't they?

Is this the same kind of arrangement as Ardoyne's new 'Home' pitch?

Was there not 3 or 4 new pitches built in Belfast? Poleglass, Ozone, Ardoyne and Woodlands?

Surely this is only a good thing.

Yeah it is a good thing of course, but they are council facilities?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
Even better then as potentially requires less financial input from the clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2017, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
Even better then as potentially requires less financial input from the clubs?

How do you figure that Hectic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 13, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
A 69 point defeat....wow.

Very difficult to encourage people to play when taking those sort of beatings
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2017, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
Even better then as potentially requires less financial input from the clubs?

How do you figure that Hectic?

'potentially' and '?' - I am asking would that likely be the case compared to clubs that maintain their own grounds - generally clubs with more members - I know grant aid plays a massive part in some clubs impressive facilities but on the basis of being matched by a financial contribution for the club before you consider upkeep.  I assume that there is a payment for the use of council facilities but maybe easier to get them there in the first place without the club having to put up thousands initially.  But as I say 'potential' and '?' so I would be happy to be informed of exactly how this works.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 13, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
A 69 point defeat....wow.

Very difficult to encourage people to play when taking those sort of beatings

Yeah which is exactly why I think they are due credit for keeping the games going in their area.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on March 13, 2017, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 13, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
A 69 point defeat....wow.

Very difficult to encourage people to play when taking those sort of beatings

Yeah which is exactly why I think they are due credit for keeping the games going in their area.

I remember as a minor in the 80's beating teams like Aghagallon and Glenavy by massive scores. My club have gone backwards since then,  they have progressed. These clubs need all the encouragement they can get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: ned on March 13, 2017, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 13, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
A 69 point defeat....wow.

Very difficult to encourage people to play when taking those sort of beatings

Yeah which is exactly why I think they are due credit for keeping the games going in their area.

I remember as a minor in the 80's beating teams like Aghagallon and Glenavy by massive scores. My club have gone backwards since then,  they have progressed. These clubs need all the encouragement they can get.

Agree but how do you encourage them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on March 13, 2017, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: ned on March 13, 2017, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 13, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 13, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
A 69 point defeat....wow.

Very difficult to encourage people to play when taking those sort of beatings

Yeah which is exactly why I think they are due credit for keeping the games going in their area.

I remember as a minor in the 80's beating teams like Aghagallon and Glenavy by massive scores. My club have gone backwards since then,  they have progressed. These clubs need all the encouragement they can get.
Agree but how do you encourage them?
By reassuring them that times will get better. As it is one of two things will happen. By the end of the year scorelines will be closer OR they will have given up completely. These teams need to know that their endeavours are ultimately worthwhile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 13, 2017, 11:28:29 PM
Mitchell's should drop into South antrim football league to re build the Base of there club.
Getting hammered every week is no incentive to play ...plus it distorts the scoring difference at top of the table.
They need to develop an underage structure starting with u6/8s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 14, 2017, 12:07:08 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 13, 2017, 11:28:29 PM
Mitchell's should drop into South antrim football league to re build the Base of there club.
Getting hammered every week is no incentive to play ...plus it distorts the scoring difference at top of the table.
They need to develop an underage structure starting with u6/8s

Was about to post the same thing, no good playing ACL just for the sake of it, no shame in just a SA team, might actually encourage people out to play knowing they'll have a game every thursday for so many weeks. i think a few teams have done that in hurling this year, Davitts, O'Donnells and St Agnes. i believe all 3 clubs will come back stronger for it too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 12:17:19 PM
Hope you are right Mac..

On another note, anybody know anywhere nice to eat around Dundalk or Drogheda area?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Jeez what a county meeting last, seems anything goes and league regulations are only there at the pleasure of those with the vision and to hear that our senior footballers will need to fund themselves in future or go hungry in transit to games.

We may well have a 'Vision' but it does seem footballers are wearing camouflage and are not in the picture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 14, 2017, 06:16:58 PM
Fitzpatricks restaurant on carling ford road is really good but expensive !

Ballymacsanlon good food and affordable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 14, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Jeez what a county meeting last, seems anything goes and league regulations are only there at the pleasure of those with the vision and to hear that our senior footballers will need to fund themselves in future or go hungry in transit to games.

We may well have a 'Vision' but it does seem footballers are wearing camouflage and are not in the picture.
I think what was said is that the county can only afford to fund catering for the travelling county squads (football or hurling)once in any given day. Which seems fair enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 14, 2017, 11:42:20 PM
Under GPA agreement every county senior  is entitled to €375 boot allowance .that's £23 000 for both squads.
Co. Board have to magic the money from burger and chips  somehow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 15, 2017, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 14, 2017, 11:42:20 PM
Under GPA agreement every county senior  is entitled to €375 boot allowance .that's £23 000 for both squads.
Co. Board have to magic the money from burger and chips  somehow

I was in Kellys Inn a few weeks ago, Tyrone teams were all over the resturant and function eating, I'd 3/4 different teams. No problem getting fed there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 15, 2017, 05:49:37 PM
The antrim u17 development squad weren't allowed to buy a sandwich deal for  30 lads at £3 .
But one player can collect €375 for boots ! I wonder whose need us greater !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 15, 2017, 06:06:53 PM
Jeez no wonder we are bottom of the heap in Ulster and near enough 31st on the National scene..........and indeed the minor footballers were fed by the Loughmacrory club after their game on Saturday.
Seems those with the Vision do not understand that those players, young and older wear the Saffron as our standard bearers deserve of our best and indeed they are infinitely more important than those who do sit on high.
Just as well an All Ireland senior title is not imminent as those who dictate policy would not hear of the traditional banquet.
As Benjamin Franklin once said, 'Fail to Prepare you are preparing to Fail', is a lesson yet to be learned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
What have Antrim Vision County board achieved? They were highly criticial of the last county board but I'm struggling to see what difference they have made 15 months in......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 15, 2017, 08:50:10 PM
€370 for boots??!! 😳 That's crazy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on March 15, 2017, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 15, 2017, 08:50:10 PM
€370 for boots??!! 😳 That's crazy.
1 pair of FG boots
1 pair of SG boots
1 pair of running shoes
not far away from 370 and all of it has to be backed up with receipts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 16, 2017, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 15, 2017, 08:50:10 PM
€370 for boots??!! 😳 That's crazy.

That's fair enough I reckon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 07:37:34 PM
Decent boots will be €80-€100 upwards. €370 is fair enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 16, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
The €375 isn't the issue ....it's the £23 000... that it will cost to clubs in the County ! Yet u17s couldn't get  £90 for a sandwich deal . Even though club antrim have made donations for upkeep of Development squads !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 16, 2017, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
What have Antrim Vision County board achieved? They were highly criticial of the last county board but I'm struggling to see what difference they have made 15 months in......
A tough question indeed but to be fair they have within a really superb administrator in the PRO who is really excelling in his role, and looks a huge prospect for a higher office ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 16, 2017, 10:49:06 PM
Whats the craic with the u 17s not gettin fed? Can someone tell me the whole story and why can the cb not fund both teams in one day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 12:09:39 AM
Played in juvenile county teams, never got fed once! Still alive and kicking!! Wtf?? When do we actually wise the feck up!! I drive my kids to all their games, hockey.. I pay £90 plus quid for the two of them per season and whatever else needs paid for and they never get fed! Keep coming back and love it! So do we base on playing for the county teams the development squads on getting fed? Bring a feck lunch with yas ffs!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2017, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 16, 2017, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 16, 2017, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
What have Antrim Vision County board achieved? They were highly criticial of the last county board but I'm struggling to see what difference they have made 15 months in......
A tough question indeed but to be fair they have within a really superb administrator in the PRO who is really excelling in his role, and looks a huge prospect for a higher office ???
For one, they have built up relations with CSC which saw a hand over of £25,000 this year. That mightn't be great, you may say. Compare it to the actions of the previous board who cost our county a fortune through illegally closing the club, not paying staff redundancy etc as well as having us plastered all over the papers when they threatened to individually sue people for no other reason than they were members of an Antrim Supporters club, which included many past players, managers and others who have given a great service to Antrim GAA (not to mention our only football all star).
The new board may not have moved the earth but by fcuk, they are nowhere near as bad as the shower that went before.
Is Casement Social club closed now HS?
Sure when Rossa come to Toome u can always get a pint here :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2017, 10:59:42 AM
I also don't buy into this whole sense of player entitlement. When I was 17 and invited onto the county minor panel I was so honoured that the thought of being peeved at not receiving the obligatory sandwich on the bus was inconceivable. Even more so when you know you are going to be reasonably well fed on the return trip.

If any player took a huff over something as mimimal as this can fcuk off in my book. It's an honour to represent your county....not the other way round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
I was involved in managing development squads for a good few years and nothing bugged me more than the wee brat who would be constantly saying "Mister when are we going to get our gear?"

I used to say if that's the reason you're here you'd better off going back home again. You're here to serve your county....not the other way round!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 17, 2017, 11:15:39 AM
I don't think it's a sense of player entitlement. Christ almighty if our county can't buy a £3 sandwhich for a 17 year old then I don't know.

People forget these "brats" are our future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2017, 12:04:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 17, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
I was involved in managing development squads for a good few years and nothing bugged me more than the wee brat who would be constantly saying "Mister when are we going to get our gear?"

I used to say if that's the reason you're here you'd better off going back home again. You're here to serve your county....not the other way round!
Think perhaps youR sentiments as expresses should extend to those within the Vision BS....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2017, 12:25:14 PM
What you usually found PJ was that it wasn't the better quality player who was looking for the gear.  It was usually a player on the very fringes of the squad who knew the squad was getting cut and wanted his gear before that happened. Funny enough you never really came across these players a few years later. They didn't stick at it. In fact in some cases players stuck it out just long enough to get their gear and made off never to be seen again.

If the gear was their main incentive they were talking to the wrong person. In my book those things were bonuses that needed to be earned.

Sandwiches do seem a bit petty but then again who the hell  would want our county treasurers job with so many other escalating costs outside his control like an extra £50k for GPA led player endorsements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 17, 2017, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 17, 2017, 12:25:14 PM
What you usually found PJ was that it wasn't the better quality player who was looking for the gear.  It was usually a player on the very fringes of the squad who knew the squad was getting cut and wanted his gear before that happened. Funny enough you never really came across these players a few years later. They didn't stick at it. In fact in some cases players stuck it out just long enough to get their gear and made off never to be seen again.

If the gear was their main incentive they were talking to the wrong person. In my book those things were bonuses that needed to be earned.

Sandwiches do seem a bit petty but then again who the hell  would want our county treasurers job with so many other escalating costs outside his control like an extra £50k for GPA led player endorsements.


I never mentioned gear BS, I agree with what you're saying. Those "brats" who maybe went home and complained about food could be the best players in the squad.

Maybe if money is so tight within the county then the county finals will be in the best possible place this season to maximise revenue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
Jesus there are some gurny cnuts!! Bannside spot on, free lunch and gear brigade can do one! Put the effort in for your county and you'll get plenty rewards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 17, 2017, 05:49:12 PM
So much for the well being of  our young dev players . You obviousily are all fully aware of their financial situations at home.
It's always a good idea to play an intercounty match on.bananas and jaffa cakes... match winner every day !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 17, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
Jesus there are some gurny cnuts!! Bannside spot on, free lunch and gear brigade can do one! Put the effort in for your county and you'll get plenty rewards

Not the language I expect from a county ref. Have some manners Dazza.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 17, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
Jesus there are some gurny cnuts!! Bannside spot on, free lunch and gear brigade can do one! Put the effort in for your county and you'll get plenty rewards

Not the language I expect from a county ref. Have some manners Dazza.
Certainly not...surprised at Bannside.....but I forget he does stand beside the Visionaries.... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2017, 07:17:07 PM
No need to get personal CB. I did make it clear that I was a supporter of change and liked a lot about a new and fresh regime. And you know what. They need a bit of support because they are trying to effect change for the better. Paul Mc Cann mightnt want to sign off on sandwiches or a breakfast or two but he is our only hope of reducing the defecit we have between income and expenditure and it would be a bad day if he walked because he was surrounded by so much negativity.  It's an almost impossible job and he clearly dosent need the hassle of it all but he is there for the right reasons solely to try to turn the finances around.

It's a lot harder than sniping here behind a keyboard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2017, 07:24:40 PM
My definition of a "brat" is someone who was put forward by their club as county standard, often a mile off the level and realising this wanted to know (often quite bullushly) when is the gear coming mister and what are we for getting...and the minute a few tee shirts and stuff arrives they can't be seen for dust. That's all. Never known any of these to be "our future" PJ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2017, 07:47:10 PM
Do not know the man at all BS but think you are careering off on a tangent.
This issue was raised at last county committee meeting by club delegates concerning two away trips involving our seniors and the u-17 dev squad
Concern was raised by concerned club reps as to why our county footballers, yes OUR county footballers were denied a light meal before a NFL game away to Louth unless they paid for it themselves.......fair enough you suggest but take on board the fact that those lads who were representing Antrim had been on the road since morning (as you are no doubt well aware), and perhaps more than a few had only a light or indeed no breakfast and you would suggest they should wait until late evening to have a meal.
As to our under-17 squad, again those lads/16 or 17 year old kids had also been on the road since early morning......did they have a breakfast prior to leaving home ? I suggest some did not.
The 17 game was fixed for a start time of 1.30 pm, and the 'meal' which would be prepared by the host club Loughmacrory would follow after the minor game scheduled for 3.30......and you would agree that they should not have been given anything prior was correct....the cost of £3 a head was a trifle exorbitant.
BS it is my humble opinion that the members of Cargin players from nursery squad to our senior panel are the future and they are treated accordingly..........tell u what all those on our County Ex could stand about for as long as they please on Corrigan Park, O' Cahan Park, Milltown Row, Toome or any other ground in Antrim and not a single soul will part with their money to watch.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
You've seen the problem in Africa lately? Kids are dying cause there is no food or clean water, if our lads can't get a hearty breakfast in them or have a sarnie made before they leave the house then they need a good slap!!

That's the problem with kids nowadays!! Expect everything for free
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 07:59:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 17, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
Jesus there are some gurny cnuts!! Bannside spot on, free lunch and gear brigade can do one! Put the effort in for your county and you'll get plenty rewards

Not the language I expect from a county ref. Have some manners Dazza.

I'm not a county ref, a club ref. Numpty

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 18, 2017, 08:21:48 AM
Yeah I tend to agree with those who say bring a sandwich. Back in the day the only reward was your jersey if you got sneaked out quick enough after being knocked out of the Championship and even at that it was done knowing that it was not quite right. Sense of entitlement these days is shocking, only thing worse is those pandering to them. Certainly if money was no object it would be different but this is not the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 18, 2017, 01:58:48 PM
God help Antrim if indeed those sentiments as expressed by Hectic are shared by many in our beleagured county..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 18, 2017, 01:58:48 PM
God help Antrim if indeed those sentiments as expressed by Hectic are shared by many in our beleagured county..

Instead of talking shite, tell me how you think Antrim can afford to run all the development teams at all ages plus our senior teams to the standard you think it should be...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 18, 2017, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 18, 2017, 01:58:48 PM
God help Antrim if indeed those sentiments as expressed by Hectic are shared by many in our beleagured county..

If you are going to spend your time pandering to kids dont come back complaining about their lack of work ethic and hunger, bad attitude and lack of respect for the opportunities afforded to them. Of course if money were no object you could look at all the advantages enjoyed by professional sportsmen but you would think the way some of you are going on that if guys are not fed by the county they would starve. Christ almighty I would say that if it is the lack of a free sandwich that is holding us back then God help Antrim. The bigger problem for me is that too many folk do not appreciate what they have in the GAA nor the effort to maintain it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 18, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
If they got fed at half 3 they probaly left abt 11 dont see the problem.but they do have a duty of car,as for getting county gear dont kid yourselves they still get very little
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 18, 2017, 07:11:29 PM
Congrats to the st marys magherafelt on coaching antrim players to a standard antrim schools cant attain.now all we need is for all south west players to go to maghera/magherafelt and all bfast players to newry or lurgan etc job done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 18, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 18, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
If they got fed at half 3 they probaly left abt 11 dont see the problem.but they do have a duty of car,as for getting county gear dont kid yourselves they still get very little
The point made was when at Tyrone the 17 squad did not get fed until after the minor game.....6pm which was a stew served by the Loughmacrory Club.....their game was on at 1.30 and was quite a wait from breakfast.
Was at Dunsilly to-day to watch our minor and u-17s against Fermanagh in very unfriendly conditions...... these lads giving up their Saturday but there were more spectators in attendance from Fermanagh.
County gear or support from the 'county' ....well did see our hard working PRO....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 18, 2017, 08:56:42 PM
Yeah I suppose given it was a stew which you should really be able to serve as people are ready for it you would think it would not have beendifficult to get the u 17 team served earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 18, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
Thought that match v Fermanagh was away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2017, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 18, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 18, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
If they got fed at half 3 they probaly left abt 11 dont see the problem.but they do have a duty of car,as for getting county gear dont kid yourselves they still get very little
The point made was when at Tyrone the 17 squad did not get fed until after the minor game.....6pm which was a stew served by the Loughmacrory Club.....their game was on at 1.30 and was quite a wait from breakfast.
Was at Dunsilly to-day to watch our minor and u-17s against Fermanagh in very unfriendly conditions...... these lads giving up their Saturday but there were more spectators in attendance from Fermanagh.
County gear or support from the 'county' ....well did see our hard working PRO....

Did anyone die from not eating?? Holy feck are you being serious or totally on the WUM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2017, 11:03:58 AM
Have been labelled as a WUM, and although I have always found that an individual who does have an inflated ego and an immense sense of self worth is easy to 'wind up' that has never been my intent..... :)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2017, 11:30:55 AM
Ego?? From what?? Look you have yet to answer my question put to you... so unless you do then you truly are a WUM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 19, 2017, 04:01:58 PM
Good win today by the sounds of it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 19, 2017, 06:51:28 PM
Magic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Superb result at Corrigan and no small amount of character and spirit displayed to grind out the two points.

Had a pint in Heffrons Bar in Randalstown on the way home and another back in Portglenone and there were people in both bars who were at the match. The players and management have a lifeline now which may come down to our last game at home against Longford. We would all have settled for this a few weeks ago but since then we have beaten Sligo and Laois and gave previously unbeaten Louth their fill of it....so it looks like we arnt out of our depth at all in this division. Not that I'm surprised as I believe we have plenty of good footballers in the county

Fair play to all involved....Credit where it's due. Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2017, 09:42:13 PM
Paddy Mc Aleer had some game today and so too Paddy Mc Bride. Peter Healy looking more comfortable with every outing as does Conor Hamill. Going to make for very interesting choices for starting berths with Kobo, James Laverty, Niall Delargy and Martin Johnston still in the mix for the last two games. Great to see genuine competition for starting places...this is exactly what we need.

We don't have many superstars in Antrim but we have plenty of good honest players who are proud to wear the jersey. For those who have gone awol for one reason or another I would say just keep on walking because the supporters are happier to see a jersey go to someone else who really wants it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 19, 2017, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2017, 09:42:13 PM
Paddy Mc Aleer had some game today and so too Paddy Mc Bride. Peter Healy looking more comfortable with every outing as does Conor Hamill. Going to make for very interesting choices for starting berths with Kobo, James Laverty, Niall Delargy and Martin Johnston still in the mix for the last two games. Great to see genuine competition for starting places...this is exactly what we need.

We don't have many superstars in Antrim but we have plenty of good honest players who are proud to wear the jersey. For those who have gone awol for one reason or another I would say just keep on walking because the supporters are happier to see a jersey go to someone else who really wants it.
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Pray tell Bannside who are those players who have 'walked'.......??

Who all has left the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 19, 2017, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 19, 2017, 09:42:13 PM
Paddy Mc Aleer had some game today and so too Paddy Mc Bride. Peter Healy looking more comfortable with every outing as does Conor Hamill. Going to make for very interesting choices for starting berths with Kobo, James Laverty, Niall Delargy and Martin Johnston still in the mix for the last two games. Great to see genuine competition for starting places...this is exactly what we need.

We don't have many superstars in Antrim but we have plenty of good honest players who are proud to wear the jersey. For those who have gone awol for one reason or another I would say just keep on walking because the supporters are happier to see a jersey go to someone else who really wants it.

Who all has left the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
They obviously didn't get the right free lunch so left! Will they give their free gear back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 07:58:45 AM
Great win to ease our relegation fears with a lot of stand our performers but again a very poor crowd at Corrigan.
Have seen more at an under-12 game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 20, 2017, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
They obviously didn't get the right free lunch so left! Will they give their free gear back?

Maybe the fact we are winning our home games is because the boys have been fed before they left home and are not starved like they are by the time they walk onto the pitch playing away.  Perhaps a carvery lunch on the way to every away game and we could be in division 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 20, 2017, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 20, 2017, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
They obviously didn't get the right free lunch so left! Will they give their free gear back?

Maybe the fact we are winning our home games is because the boys have been fed before they left home and are not starved like they are by the time they walk onto the pitch playing away.  Perhaps a carvery lunch on the way to every away game and we could be in division 1.

Fitzy can't be expected to pay for all those lunches...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2017, 11:30:57 AM
Never worry about who has left the panel. There will always be someone to take their place. No one is irreplaceable! When players think they are doing the county a favour by turning up it is time for them to move along. Simple as!

They arnt calling the shots anymore. There are lots of capable players around who still feel it's an honour to pull on the Saffron shirt.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2017, 11:35:30 AM
Like most counties Antrim are burdened with hefty debt due to a lot of historical reasons that the new committee inherited. I was astounded to hear what the total was....and we need somehow find a six figure sum to complete Dunsilly.

Anyone up for joining the fundraising committee???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 20, 2017, 11:50:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2017, 11:30:57 AM
Never worry about who has left the panel. There will always be someone to take their place. No one is irreplaceable! When players think they are doing the county a favour by turning up it is time for them to move along. Simple as!

They arnt calling the shots anymore. There are lots of capable players around who still feel it's an honour to pull on the Saffron shirt.

I agree everybody can be replaced, but who are those who left the panel and why did they? I know Tomas McCann has left, surely it wouldn't be right to tell him to keep on walking after the service he has given or doubt his honesty to the cause.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
Join a fund raising committee BS....sure we cannot get anyone to atttend our games......a huge population in West Belfast and in our league games in Corrigan '17....a paltry few.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
Join a fund raising committee BS....sure we cannot get anyone to atttend our games......a huge population in West Belfast and in our league games in Corrigan '17....a paltry few.
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2017, 11:35:30 AM
Like most counties Antrim are burdened with hefty debt due to a lot of historical reasons that the new committee inherited. I was astounded to hear what the total was....and we need somehow find a six figure sum to complete Dunsilly.

Anyone up for joining the fundraising committee???
Think a lot of clubs, my own included did spend a lotta money over the years in upgrading our facilities and were left to our own devices to gather the funds.
Where was the money spent to accumulate such historical debt I wonder?
How much have we paid out to claimants I wonder ?
In any event in the tenure of the SV committee over 17 months what fund raising ventures were initiated ?
Seems we are taking the "austerity" route to mimic another body.
Deny our future proper care is the sure road to ruin....
And for your info BS the present u 17 and munor squads have received "NO GEAR" as you describe, at all not even the basic socks and togs. They have looken on in awe as in their games thus far the can only look on at oppositio who are treated as to status with training tops, skinnys, etc.
Had to play on Sat without even  sandwich post game.
In contrast Tyrone who played Derry 17 and minor on Sat had a hot food van in attendance during games to suppy and both panels returned to the "Tilly Lamp Resturant" post games for dinner.
Wonder why Tyrone are up there and we are down here in the basement....
Jeez we ask go and do our bidding lads, train hard give up your evenings and week-ends for our cause..and let us know how u get on because we won't be ther to lend support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
The info I got on Tomas was that he was taking a break but I'd expected him back in a few weeks. Subject to correction of course.

I'm not going to go through all the names but anybody who knows anything about football in Antrim could name at least half a dozen quality players who haven't made themselves available for one reason or another. They are fully entitled to not make themselves available if they have a reason for doing so. Some might have work commitments, others may think thd set up wasn't up to their expectations, or any other reason.

The thing is we can get keep talking about the players who arnt there. Tomas is a class act no doubt and no one can fault his commitment to Antrim....but if he isn't coming back then that's that and the jersey goes to someone who does want it. The show must hold on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
Well if the money isn't there it isn't there CB so what do you want the county treasurer to do.

You may wish to know that another Saffron Business Forum breakfast is planned for next week, and that a business dinner in the Ramada in May has sold out with 550 people paying  £60 to attend.

That's what the executive are doing. Plenty of honest endeavour to turn a corner financially (or even just chip away at the never ending defecit). I'd say that's a really difficult task they have but sure let's bang on about not getting a sandwich.

Get up ten minutes early and get your own for goodness sake!
Is it really too hard to ask an elite athlete  (or someone aspiring to that status) to take responsibility for their own nutrition?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
Well if the money isn't there it isn't there CB so what do you want the county treasurer to do.

You may wish to know that another Saffron Business Forum breakfast is planned for next week, and that a business dinner in the Ramada in May has sold out with 550 people paying  £60 to attend.

That's what the executive are doing. Plenty of honest endeavour to turn a corner financially (or even just chip away at the never ending defecit). I'd say that's a really difficult task they have but sure let's bang on about not getting a sandwich.

Get up ten minutes early and get your own for goodness sake!
Is it really too hard to ask an elite athlete  (or someone aspiring to that status) to take responsibility for their own nutrition?
Aye right BS u trying to tell me that if one ur lads had endured such in  development squad u would not have held up your hand in protestations !
Please. !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
If my sons came home from development squad training to say they were off on Saturday at a blitz etc and they were getting a meal on the way home but coach asked them all to make sure to have a substantial breakfast and being a few sandwiches plus a drink with them I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. In fact I would probably have been up early to make a good fry or something!

Now if they weren't getting anything post event I would say sandwich and a drink to be provided by the county is minimum fayre.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 20, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
Surley theres a rake of Mammies somewhere busting to make aload of sandwiches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 20, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
A friend of mine whose son is 15 plays for a local soccer club, they went to a blitz 2 weeks ago in Lisburn, they got a text from the coaches saying that they were leaving at 8.30am and wouldn't be back until after 3pm and that a Breakfast and Lunch would be provided by the club. When they got the clubrooms of the club, there was toast, cereal and fruit provided for both parents and children. Its the small things like that which create a good impression of the organisation. I feel we are being left behind in terms of this and I'm not talking about a full rig out of O'Neills gear. I'm not doubting that funds are tight but if we try to invest in our future then we may stand a chance. Maybe the SV will change these kinda things, I dunno..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 20, 2017, 02:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 20, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
Surley theres a rake of Mammies somewhere busting to make aload of sandwiches?

Anything but egg n onion..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I remember playing against Derry in the first round of an under 16 or minor tournament. They turned up in full tracksuits, bags, full kits etc. We ran out with our club gear on and these fruit of the loom yellow t-shirts. All the other teams we played that day were very similar and we were the poor relations. That was a right while ago and things still haven't changed. Saying that it will take a while for this current committee to change things, so will have to give them a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I remember playing against Derry in the first round of an under 16 or minor tournament. They turned up in full tracksuits, bags, full kits etc. We ran out with our club gear on and these fruit of the loom yellow t-shirts. All the other teams we played that day were very similar and we were the poor relations. That was a right while ago and things still haven't changed. Saying that it will take a while for this current committee to change things, so will have to give them a chance.

And did we play shit because of it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 20, 2017, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 20, 2017, 08:19:52 PM
I'd say he still gets a wear out of the Fruit of the Loom top. You know what them Aghagallon boys are like.

its now says ' uit of the loo'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
Time to get the camper van out and make a few quid! Just follow the county teams about and make some pastie baps !

Was on the way down to Kilkenny a while back and the Antrim footballers where heading to Offaly on the Saturday, they managed to get food from the Applegreen at Lusk, they looked well hydrated and nourished...

Didn't do them any good!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 09:22:08 PM
Take a walk up the Falls road on Saturday morning or in Andytown and you will see a lot of young lads kitted out in their soccer club garb, where they are treated well, and no wonder we lose them with the attitude forthcoming from some.
When was the last year South Antrim won nothing at all in football as in 2017....oh wait they did earn a div 3 league title and just for the craic when did they last take a senior hurling title back home to Belfast ?
Our games or most certainly on the wane in the second largest city in Ireland both in able participation and indeed as spectators......and few it seems care. ???

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:31:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 20, 2017, 08:19:52 PM
I'd say he still gets a wear out of the Fruit of the Loom top. You know what them Aghagallon boys are like.

It was during the time that Trevor Giles cut the sleeves off his tops. So of course we all cut the sleeves off our tops and played the tournament like Trevor Giles. We did get fed that day though  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I remember playing against Derry in the first round of an under 16 or minor tournament. They turned up in full tracksuits, bags, full kits etc. We ran out with our club gear on and these fruit of the loom yellow t-shirts. All the other teams we played that day were very similar and we were the poor relations. That was a right while ago and things still haven't changed. Saying that it will take a while for this current committee to change things, so will have to give them a chance.

And did we play shit because of it??

No but as a 16-18 year old you do look on in envy. Young lads don't have the same attitude as fellas in their 30s and talk about playing for the pride of the jersey. Of course pride of playing for their county plays a part, but if they don't think they're getting treated the same as their mates in other counties then of course they're not going try as hard. I don't see why fellas on the underage county teams can't get socks, shorts and a training top ffs. How do other counties do it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I remember playing against Derry in the first round of an under 16 or minor tournament. They turned up in full tracksuits, bags, full kits etc. We ran out with our club gear on and these fruit of the loom yellow t-shirts. All the other teams we played that day were very similar and we were the poor relations. That was a right while ago and things still haven't changed. Saying that it will take a while for this current committee to change things, so will have to give them a chance.

And did we play shit because of it??

No but as a 16-18 year old you do look on in envy. Young lads don't have the same attitude as fellas in their 30s and talk about playing for the pride of the jersey. Of course pride of playing for their county plays a part, but if they don't think they're getting treated the same as their mates in other counties then of course they're not going try as hard. I don't see why fellas on the underage county teams can't get socks, shorts and a training top ffs. How do other counties do it?

Funding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I remember playing against Derry in the first round of an under 16 or minor tournament. They turned up in full tracksuits, bags, full kits etc. We ran out with our club gear on and these fruit of the loom yellow t-shirts. All the other teams we played that day were very similar and we were the poor relations. That was a right while ago and things still haven't changed. Saying that it will take a while for this current committee to change things, so will have to give them a chance.

And did we play shit because of it??

No but as a 16-18 year old you do look on in envy. Young lads don't have the same attitude as fellas in their 30s and talk about playing for the pride of the jersey. Of course pride of playing for their county plays a part, but if they don't think they're getting treated the same as their mates in other counties then of course they're not going try as hard. I don't see why fellas on the underage county teams can't get socks, shorts and a training top ffs. How do other counties do it?

Funding

I've seen a couple of teams getting their training kits sponsored and put on fb. Surely there is a business in the county that could sponsor the minor training kit, another that would sponsor the under 16s etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 09:22:08 PM
Take a walk up the Falls road on Saturday morning or in Andytown and you will see a lot of young lads kitted out in their soccer club garb, where they are treated well, and no wonder we lose them with the attitude forthcoming from some.
When was the last year South Antrim won nothing at all in football as in 2017....oh wait they did earn a div 3 league title and just for the craic when did they last take a senior hurling title back home to Belfast ?
Our games or most certainly on the wane in the second largest city in Ireland both in able participation and indeed as spectators......and few it seems care. ???

Honestly are we still going on about how the SW has won all the cups??

When you take a walk up the Falls the next time come down to Milltown Row and you'll probably see our ladies playing on one pitch hurlers on the other and senior footballers come off after training... Saturday mornings the pitches are full... no Celtic tops either unlike other clubs  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 09:57:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2017, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 20, 2017, 03:30:02 PM
I remember playing against Derry in the first round of an under 16 or minor tournament. They turned up in full tracksuits, bags, full kits etc. We ran out with our club gear on and these fruit of the loom yellow t-shirts. All the other teams we played that day were very similar and we were the poor relations. That was a right while ago and things still haven't changed. Saying that it will take a while for this current committee to change things, so will have to give them a chance.

And did we play shit because of it??

No but as a 16-18 year old you do look on in envy. Young lads don't have the same attitude as fellas in their 30s and talk about playing for the pride of the jersey. Of course pride of playing for their county plays a part, but if they don't think they're getting treated the same as their mates in other counties then of course they're not going try as hard. I don't see why fellas on the underage county teams can't get socks, shorts and a training top ffs. How do other counties do it?

Funding

I've seen a couple of teams getting their training kits sponsored and put on fb. Surely there is a business in the county that could sponsor the minor training kit, another that would sponsor the under 16s etc.

Not sure of the the sponsorship deals the county has so can't comment on that but within most clubs the sponsorship runs through to all teams and they can't use other sponsorship..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 20, 2017, 10:02:19 PM
Here's a thought I put on another thread but perhaps this is the thread of it:
Belfast GAA had Casement as a jewel in the crown for over 50 years. Due to an Ulster Council run project we have not had Casement for 5 years and likely to be out of commission for another 3 to5 years. Antrim/Belfast GAA doesn't have many things going for it but the honour of playing in Casement was one of them - Should the Ulster Council be paying Antrim GAA for the loss of our historic and iconic venue for a 8 to10 year period? Money we could use to make a new Belfast GAA home in Woodlands or Boucher Road pitches...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 20, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
Why an 8 - 10 year period? Why not for a 25 year period, or for all time? Casement is our pitch, standing on our land, built with money raised by Antrim Gaels. I presume it won't just be handed over for a 'thanks lads'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 21, 2017, 09:13:42 AM
Kit and food are not essential to produce good footballers and hurlers though I appreciate with the like of primary school children they do enjoy a treat attached to involvement and would not leave any party without a party bag. 

If money is tight you look at the essential spend - if money is plentiful then you can look at treating your players to plenty of kit and set up a nutrition program which you yourself implement on match days and even around trainings. 

If food is being provided, as CB pointed out for the U17 and Minor teams in Tyrone then maybe it would be good to go the extra step and organise it to be served at an appropriate time but this is just a minor tweek to what is in place with it already been laid on but maybe not fully thought through.

But seriously, 20+ years ago the idea of getting loads of kit and all your nutrition would have been fairly alien and certainly not something that folk would have had in their sights when attending county trials - so what is changed?  I would suggest that we have reached a stage when a lot of our young lads have been pampered and pandered to to the point they are almost calling the shots.  Yes there is competition from other sports but by the time guys are 16+ they should be past the stage of making their decisions based on a kit bag.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 21, 2017, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 18, 2017, 07:21:00 PM
The Colleges GAA hotbed of Lurgan!

Yip, you're on (to) something alright.

There'll be a MaCrory Cup in Lurgan within 3 years!  Mark my words ye blurt!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2017, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2017, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 18, 2017, 07:21:00 PM
The Colleges GAA hotbed of Lurgan!

Yip, you're on (to) something alright.

There'll be a MaCrory Cup in Lurgan within 3 years!  Mark my words ye blurt!
St. Ronan's have done well this past few years in the McCrory but the next few years don't look as promising. A lot of lurgan ones go to the Newry schools and St. Pats Armagh as well to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 21, 2017, 11:18:33 AM
When the St.Ronan's amalgamation properly beds in there'll be no stopping them!

Why do you think the next few years aren't as promising?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on March 21, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
The Development squad players usually receive a training top, shorts and socks. These are funded by the players selling tickets, each player to raise around £60 if memory serves right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
They receive a poor fitting training top, shorts and socks that I would say cost £30 tops bulk buy ... and they just about get them at the very end of the season.

£50 or £60 quid of tickets ...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
Big shout out to the 7 strong Antrim contingent involved in tomorrow's Hogan Cup semi final. Not forgetting a valuable contribution from Antrim coaches RD (plays for Cargin) and Antrim legend Kevin Brady who as far as I know is team manager. Huge achievement getting this far hopefully it dosent end tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on March 21, 2017, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
Big shout out to the 7 strong Antrim contingent involved in tomorrow's Hogan Cup semi final. Not forgetting a valuable contribution from Antrim coaches RD (plays for Cargin) and Antrim legend Kevin Brady who as far as I know is team manager. Huge achievement getting this far hopefully it dosent end tomorrow.
Bannside think there are 9
6 creggan 3 starters 3 subs
3 moneyglass 2 starters 1 sub
Plus management

Major contribution to a well drilled team .....fully deserving of their success...hopefully more to come


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2017, 06:39:05 AM
Welcome Blindside.

That's a great stat from an Antrim perspective. Our games are  truly alive, stronger than ever in fact, in the South West.

My daughter is Upper Sixth there and heading down to Drogheda in one of the dozens of buses. Says the buzz round the school is unreal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on March 22, 2017, 08:54:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
Big shout out to the 7 strong Antrim contingent involved in tomorrow's Hogan Cup semi final. Not forgetting a valuable contribution from Antrim coaches RD (plays for Cargin) and Antrim legend Kevin Brady who as far as I know is team manager. Huge achievement getting this far hopefully it dosent end tomorrow.
Ronan Devlin is from Ballinderry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2017, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on March 22, 2017, 08:54:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
Big shout out to the 7 strong Antrim contingent involved in tomorrow's Hogan Cup semi final. Not forgetting a valuable contribution from Antrim coaches RD (plays for Cargin) and Antrim legend Kevin Brady who as far as I know is team manager. Huge achievement getting this far hopefully it dosent end tomorrow.
Ronan Devlin is from Ballinderry.

We are worse than the Brits trying to claim people lol

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on March 22, 2017, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 22, 2017, 06:39:05 AM
Welcome Blindside.

That's a great stat from an Antrim perspective. Our games are  truly alive, stronger than ever in fact, in the South West.

My daughter is Upper Sixth there and heading down to Drogheda in one of the dozens of buses. Says the buzz round the school is unreal.


Agree from what I hear the place is buzzing ...It's a football hotbed living in the shadow of it's neighbour down the road.

It's hard to make the breakthrough against the traditional power houses.

Big ask today though with such a short turn around ...Know the management team were working hard over the weekend doing the analysis and prep   still very hard to bring the guys down to ground again and get in the zone for today's game.

They have been in tight corners and have shown great resilience and character so hopefully they can get over the line later today.

With the breakthrough made the South Derry and Lough Shore combination might kick on and become a regular feature at the business end of the colleges competitions.

From an Antrim perspective there are a few lads at St Pats as well who could be featuring at the business end in the next few years as well.

The big question from a SW side is can St Louis get it together. Don't want to knock them as there has been a lot of good things happening in the school in general but they did look very poor in the Mc Larnon Cup.

Should be doing better with some Dunloy Minors and Ballymena's strong U16 team plus a good smattering of other talented players. Looked very disjointed and poorly coached  ... appreciate it is not the schools primary job but I think they could do better

Perhaps the SW could show some initiative here and provide some coaching assistance/funding .....could be shared in other 2nd level schools   St Pats Ballymena, St Killian's, St Benedict's   ....might even be able to get some funding from Ulster Council ...... could be a call to the current president who I am  sure would be willing to assist if possible
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 22, 2017, 10:33:13 AM
Geroid Adams is the head of PE at St Louis, so there at least is a county level coach already in the school. Not sure the scorelines in the competition warrant the 'very poor' comment but no doubt could do better. No different in regards to the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 22, 2017, 10:50:58 AM
Saint Louis fell to the very talented eventual winners in Ballygawley.  I saw them twice this year and was impressed.  In recent years ive saw better squads being probably to defensive with the quality they had but such is modern football.

To have a team competing well at rannafast this year was a big step forward for St Louis and the group backboned by many of the Ballymena feile winning team has performed well winning Colmcille in 2nd year.

Sean Leo McGoldrick now teaching in the school and that will hopefully add to the coaching pool.  Gearoid has probably not had it easy trying to cover every football team in some way. 

For me its just good to see St Louis away from the soccer bias that existed in the early 90's and before.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on March 22, 2017, 11:38:45 AM
Might have been a little harsh on the "very poor"

Thought they were soundly beaten in the semi though. Score board  (2 goals , 1 very soft) paints a closer picture that it actually was. Don't know the full setup there but Sean Leo should be a positive step.

The general point would be that this is B level competition where with the school size and the talent that the feeder clubs are producing they could be more competitive.

Not knocking the school as it has made great strides in recent years in lots of areas and it takes time to build the foundations.

Just think a strong St Louis coupled with the guys that go to St Mary's, St Pat's and St Ronan's (starting to make progress) would really push things on in the SW area .....rising tide lifts all  etc........   Then get to work in the Belfast Schools,   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 22, 2017, 11:48:31 AM
The thing with Saint Louis size, definitely in my time there were many boys who did'nt play sport at all never mind GAA but that has certainly changed.  They are building a new gym set up in there at the moment and there is a lot of positive work been done but its also about the club provision of quality to the school, transfer test results and the general push for football in the county.

In the late 90's St Louis had few successful years and a good few county players came through there and as i said before it was still more of a soccer school.  In those teams at that time the coaching was down to 2 maths teachers and a history teacher.  Hopefully going forward when the quality groups come through the platform will be there to progress.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2017, 08:11:04 PM
But the big question is this, are they getting fed before during and after these games??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Dreen on March 22, 2017, 11:48:31 AM
The thing with Saint Louis size, definitely in my time there were many boys who did'nt play sport at all never mind GAA but that has certainly changed.  They are building a new gym set up in there at the moment and there is a lot of positive work been done but its also about the club provision of quality to the school, transfer test results and the general push for football in the county.

In the late 90's St Louis had few successful years and a good few county players came through there and as i said before it was still more of a soccer school.  In those teams at that time the coaching was down to 2 maths teachers and a history teacher.  Hopefully going forward when the quality groups come through the platform will be there to progress.

St Louis had a serious amount of talent through their ranks. I remember seeing a picture on FB of an old team. Quite a few county minors/Un21s and seniors in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 23, 2017, 09:08:38 AM
St Louis played a friendly against us around 1990 at 5th year stage - it was arranged in part through some lads in both schools that knew each other - at that time they were gathering lads up for the game as they had no team entered in any competition - poor enough given their catchment - that said I think they did win an All Ireland hurling title around that time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 23, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 23, 2017, 09:08:38 AM
St Louis played a friendly against us around 1990 at 5th year stage - it was arranged in part through some lads in both schools that knew each other - at that time they were gathering lads up for the game as they had no team entered in any competition - poor enough given their catchment - that said I think they did win an All Ireland hurling title around that time.

St Louis got to an All Ireland B Hurling Final in the late 80s and an All Ireland B Football Final in the mid 1990s. Lost both, unfortunately. In fact, I have a notion that the school that beat them after extra time in hurling last year was the one that beat them in the football final previously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 09:58:51 AM
I didn't go there until 93 but there was a very good run and a lot of talent in both codes through it in my time and after.

St Louis catchment really abit of a myth as you needed a 1or2 in the 11 plus to get in firstly and in my year you had more Ballymena, Antrim town, Larne, Randalstown non gaa boys than you had from local gaa clubs.

Rasharkin and Dunloy were always split at grammar school by St. Louis and loreto and very few Creggan players in my time.

Our lady of Lourdes and St olcans had some great footballers through them when I was young.
Compare that situation to maghera say which worked in catchment area rather than selection and you see the disparity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 23, 2017, 10:19:53 AM
It might not happen but should Antrim GAA not be trying to encourage lads (Portglenone, Creggan, Cargin etc) towards St Louis as opposed to the Convent/Maghera?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 10:59:25 AM
I think there has been a chage in recent years and children wanting to attend the school on its gaa push.  The gear that's around the school and yes teams being fed pasta in school canteen before games etc has a very professional approach, credit to Gearoid on that.

Just too many variables for a push of children by county or club to a school.  Parents maybe wanting their child to attend the old school and more importantly for most the academic performance.

I know for a good few years st Mary's would have been a better performer in the league tables than St. Louis though there has been a great improvement since Sean Rafferty took over.

He has been behind the gaa push and that's what was needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 23, 2017, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 10:59:25 AM
I think there has been a chage in recent years and children wanting to attend the school on its gaa push.  The gear that's around the school and yes teams being fed pasta in school canteen before games etc has a very professional approach, credit to Gearoid on that.

Just too many variables for a push of children by county or club to a school.  Parents maybe wanting their child to attend the old school and more importantly for most the academic performance.

I know for a good few years st Mary's would have been a better performer in the league tables than St. Louis though there has been a great improvement since Sean Rafferry took over.

He has been behind the gaa push and that's what was needed.

Oh yes of course the academic aspect is first and foremost in the parents thoughts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 23, 2017, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 09:58:51 AM
I didn't go there until 93 but there was a very good run and a lot of talent in both codes through it in my time and after.

St Louis catchment really abit of a myth as you needed a 1or2 in the 11 plus to get in firstly and in my year you had more Ballymena, Antrim town, Larne, Randalstown non gaa boys than you had from local gaa clubs.

Rasharkin and Dunloy were always split at grammar school by St. Louis and loreto and very few Creggan players in my time.

Our lady of Lourdes and St olcans had some great footballers through them when I was young.
Compare that situation to maghera say which worked in catchment area rather than selection and you see the disparity

I get what you are saying about not having all the lads from surrounding clubs but surely what they would gather from Ballymena, Portglenone, Rasharkin, Dunloy, Moneygalss, Glenravel, Randalstown, and Antrim still represents a fair catchment (roughly a third of the football clubs in the county) plus I know there are kids that now travel from Glenavy to St Louis for their education.

If the school could get itself a reputation for pushing Gaelic Football strongly then they might attract other pupils on this basis in much the same way as St Pats Maghera operates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 12:40:46 PM
I would say they are currently benefiting from that sort of spread and that going forward we will see the benefit of that.  I'm more relating to the past and the many years probably lost in the push of football especially.

Can't see however how it will ever be like st pats whiles transfer tests exists. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on March 23, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
Dreen

don't think the expectation would be that it would become a St Pat's Maghera. The expectation would be that they should be very competitive @ B level every year. In the Newry area they have 3 schools within a handful of miles of each other competing close to the top of A level every year + 2 other schools about 20 minutes away also competing at A level. 

St Louis is not the only school that has pupils who don't play sport or indeed Gaelic Games. I do think they have the numbers ....approximately 150/2 per year ....  even @ conservative 20% gives 15 per year  team covering 2 year groups + cream of year below would give you 35 - 40 ....remember it is B level as well ... some reasonably strong clubs in the area as well so some decent talent 

As an ex pupil I have a fair idea of what is/has been there  ....not close to punching its weight

You better withdraw the comment about them getting fed ....very touchy subject @ the moment


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
At 5th year this year they were competitive at A grade, and I think you have to look at it in context that B level football is at its most competitive it's ever been.  When you were a pupil blindside I'm sure you didn't have to contend with Cookstown or ballygawley as they were kicking vocational schools.

Those newry schools are selecting from very strong clubs which imo are ahead of a lot  of ours.

Schools football will always be cyclical in terms of how good a team come through, when saint louis had strong teams say for 2 years then the year after that the level could have dropped massively.

Sorry I may have good the food wrong, they brought the pasta with them
8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on March 23, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
Quote from: Dreen on March 23, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
At 5th year this year they were competitive at A grade, and I think you have to look at it in context that B level football is at its most competitive it's ever been.  When you were a pupil blindside I'm sure you didn't have to contend with Cookstown or ballygawley as they were kicking vocational schools.

Those newry schools are selecting from very strong clubs which imo are ahead of a lot  of ours.

Schools football will always be cyclical in terms of how good a team come through, when saint louis had strong teams say for 2 years then the year after that the level could have dropped massively.

Sorry I may have good the food wrong, they brought the pasta with them
8)

Good man Dreen you may have solved the food for Development Squads issue 

Bring your own Pasta and a flask of Boiling Water  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 25, 2017, 10:34:52 AM
Minors were unlucky to lose out to Derry last nite....excellent Ballymena pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Going ok here in the Athletic grounds.  Armagh 1.03 Antrim 0.06. Great venue for a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
Antrim footballers came out of Armagh tonight with a lot of credit. We matched them for 60 minutes, toe to toe literally in a fairly tempestuous encounter. An awful lot to like about the spirit of this almost completely new look team....that's four games in a row now where we have held our own and some so called supporters are still not giving any kind of credit where it's due.

Talking to a lot of the players and it's clear there is a strong bond with management. And make no mistake they will be bursting their guts next Sunday against Longford to get the points that will keep us safe.

Anyone who thinks of calling themselves an Antrim supporter needs to get there next Sunday and support their team. If you were at the Athletic grounds tonight you would know that that's the least they deserve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2017, 11:36:21 PM
Many Antrim teams would have folded when Armagh went five clear.  But the last twenty minutes we really tore into them and at the end most Armagh supporters were glad to hear the final whistle. It was a tough environ, big noisy home support, Armagh still in hunt for promotion, and the game was very physical...but our lads stood strong and I'd say won over a lot of neutrals for the way they went at Armagh at the finish.

Only problem was the ten minutes at the start of the second half. We went into a shell and invited them onto us. They didn't look that gift horse in the mouth and reeled off five points in a row. That's what beat us in the end. We showed them to much respect if you ask me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2017, 11:48:13 PM
Conor Hamill and Peter Healy have turned out to be really good corner backs and are going from strength to strength.

The three Paddy's (Gallagher, Mc Bride and Mc Aleer) are also looking very comfortable playing NFL div 3 and not an inch out of their depth.

Up front CJ is doing his stuff consistently at last. I'm not sure about Tomas whether or not he's coming back but him and CJ and Ryan Murray would give us some threat up front if they were all on at the same time!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
County PRO doing a super job promoting the game this weekend, pity there is a full fixture list for Div3 & Div2 reserve at the same time.

Catch 22 for the fixture makers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
County PRO doing a super job promoting the game this weekend, pity there is a full fixture list for Div3 & Div2 reserve at the same time.

Catch 22 for the fixture makers.

Thats not a lot in fairness, you could have huring and all div football games going on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 11:39:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
County PRO doing a super job promoting the game this weekend, pity there is a full fixture list for Div3 & Div2 reserve at the same time.

Catch 22 for the fixture makers.

Thats not a lot in fairness, you could have huring and all div football games going on

Do Div3 players and clubs not want to go and watch their county play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on March 28, 2017, 12:15:42 PM
Judging by previous crowds at Corrigan, no they don't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 28, 2017, 12:31:24 PM
Agree our PRO is doing a splendid job....but seems some would refuse to give him any credit at all .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 01:14:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 11:39:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
County PRO doing a super job promoting the game this weekend, pity there is a full fixture list for Div3 & Div2 reserve at the same time.

Catch 22 for the fixture makers.

Thats not a lot in fairness, you could have huring and all div football games going on

Do Div3 players and clubs not want to go and watch their county play?

I dont know, but its never always been a closed date for games and county games... The Westmeath game was on at 1pm on Sunday and the Armagh match was on Saturday night... what was the crowds like at Armagh PJ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 01:14:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 11:39:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
County PRO doing a super job promoting the game this weekend, pity there is a full fixture list for Div3 & Div2 reserve at the same time.

Catch 22 for the fixture makers.

Thats not a lot in fairness, you could have huring and all div football games going on

Do Div3 players and clubs not want to go and watch their county play?

I dont know, but its never always been a closed date for games and county games... The Westmeath game was on at 1pm on Sunday and the Armagh match was on Saturday night... what was the crowds like at Armagh PJ?

Going by twitter they were ok, unfortunately I was grafting at that time on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 28, 2017, 01:55:51 PM
Not sure what the big deal is - bit more daylight now - nothing to stop two competing teams knocking their heads together and agreeing to play their game a little later on Sunday if there is big interest in attending the county fixture. 

Might still knock a few thousand off the club gates though if supporters decide attending one game on the day is enough and opt for the county game as their first choice but sure even in that case the county could forgo the pre match meal and instead compensate the clubs for their loss of takings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
Not really a big deal, highlights the issue that the CCC face.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 28, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
Yeah look PaddyJohn you probably know as well as me that there is always a lot of horse trading going on in the background around league fixtures, especially when you hit the summer.  I suppose there is also location of matches to consider - if a game is being played in Belfast then putting it back to 4pm could work for all parties for Sunday but a game being played on the reaches such as Ballycastle v Mitchells this becomes more of a difficulty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 03:03:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 28, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
Yeah look PaddyJohn you probably know as well as me that there is always a lot of horse trading going on in the background around league fixtures, especially when you hit the summer.  I suppose there is also location of matches to consider - if a game is being played in Belfast then putting it back to 4pm could work for all parties for Sunday but a game being played on the reaches such as Ballycastle v Mitchells this becomes more of a difficulty.

There's some common sense in that post Hectic 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 09:17:59 PM
I think it very handy or petty, depends what way you'll take it, but certainly we've a couple of posters happy enough to stick the knife in at every opportunity they can at people giving up their time to help run the county and all it's needs while not using their own names!

Easy to knock I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2017, 10:29:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 09:17:59 PM
I think it very handy or petty, depends what way you'll take it, but certainly we've a couple of posters happy enough to stick the knife in at every opportunity they can at people giving up their time to help run the county and all it's needs while not using their own names!

Easy to knock I suppose

Exactly mate. Well said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2017, 03:42:43 PM
Glad to see our excellent PRO has another admirer  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 30, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
Seans doing an excellent job as PRO. Ive worked with him a fair bit since hes started and hes up for promoting all of our clubs, events, fund raisers etc. His enthusiasm and passion for our games is very evident with the effort he goes to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 10:56:17 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 30, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
Seans doing an excellent job as PRO. Ive worked with him a fair bit since hes started and hes up for promoting all of our clubs, events, fund raisers etc. His enthusiasm and passion for our games is very evident with the effort he goes to.

Agree, the effort the man goes to is ridiculous. A gentleman also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 10:57:48 AM
I don't disagree with anything positive that has been said about our PRO but it is getting a bit boring at this stage - I think we all know he is doing an excellent job at this stage but can we not change the record?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 10:57:48 AM
I don't disagree with anything positive that has been said about our PRO but it is getting a bit boring at this stage - I think we all know he is doing an excellent job at this stage but can we not change the record?

To what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Maybe pre match meals ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Maybe pre match meals ;)

Posters on this board, myself included, have been accused of being negative, being anti SV and not giving praise to county officers, so when he does get praise you want us to change the record? Sean Kelly has been superb in his role as PRO and deserves all the praise that has been and will continue to be given to him. Maybe because he doesn't sing to the same tune as some on SV we aren't allowed to praise him.

Pre match meals for who? Sure that isn't an issue is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Maybe pre match meals ;)

Posters on this board, myself included, have been accused of being negative, being anti SV and not giving praise to county officers, so when he does get praise you want us to change the record? Sean Kelly has been superb in his role as PRO and deserves all the praise that has been and will continue to be given to him. Maybe because he doesn't sing to the same tune as some on SV we aren't allowed to praise him.

Pre match meals for who? Sure that isn't an issue is it?

So then sure show a bit more variety in your positivity - if you tell a joke once people might think you are funny but if you tell the same joke week after week then folk will wonder if it is the only joke you know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Maybe pre match meals ;)

Posters on this board, myself included, have been accused of being negative, being anti SV and not giving praise to county officers, so when he does get praise you want us to change the record? Sean Kelly has been superb in his role as PRO and deserves all the praise that has been and will continue to be given to him. Maybe because he doesn't sing to the same tune as some on SV we aren't allowed to praise him.

Pre match meals for who? Sure that isn't an issue is it?

So then sure show a bit more variety in your positivity - if you tell a joke once people might think you are funny but if you tell the same joke week after week then folk will wonder if it is the only joke you know.

Buts it's the best joke I know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
Maybe pre match meals ;)

Posters on this board, myself included, have been accused of being negative, being anti SV and not giving praise to county officers, so when he does get praise you want us to change the record? Sean Kelly has been superb in his role as PRO and deserves all the praise that has been and will continue to be given to him. Maybe because he doesn't sing to the same tune as some on SV we aren't allowed to praise him.

Pre match meals for who? Sure that isn't an issue is it?

So then sure show a bit more variety in your positivity - if you tell a joke once people might think you are funny but if you tell the same joke week after week then folk will wonder if it is the only joke you know.

Buts it's the best joke I know.

Ha - in that case my apologies - carry on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
Changing the subject - only over a week now until we are off and running in Div 1 and 2 - how are we all shaping up at this stage?  Interesting start for Antrim with a game against neighbours Randalstown and a game that could see an upset in my opinion.  Ardoyne have a difficult trip to an ever improving Dunloy while Rasharkin will do well to get anything from Ballymena.

In Div 1 Aghagallon are another who I fancy to start with a win away to Ahoghill.  I do see a lot of interest in the other games.  Div 1 for me is a funny one because the top teams generally are in no panic to hit top gear as compared to Div 2 where teams are nearly all either in the promotion or relegation mix from the beginning.

And given these two divisions have yet to begin is it a bit premature to suggest awarding Glenravel the Div 3 title now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on March 30, 2017, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 09:17:59 PM
I think it very handy or petty, depends what way you'll take it, but certainly we've a couple of posters happy enough to stick the knife in at every opportunity they can at people giving up their time to help run the county and all it's needs while not using their own names!

Easy to knock I suppose

well said.

PS. and the PRO is still doing a fantastic job, long may it continue; him, and his praise. http://gaaboard.com/board/Smileys/default/smiley.gif
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 30, 2017, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: bogieman on March 30, 2017, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2017, 09:17:59 PM
I think it very handy or petty, depends what way you'll take it, but certainly we've a couple of posters happy enough to stick the knife in at every opportunity they can at people giving up their time to help run the county and all it's needs while not using their own names!

Easy to knock I suppose

well said.

PS. and the PRO is still doing a fantastic job, long may it continue; him, and his praise.

http://gaaboard.com/board/Smileys/default/smiley.gif
Seems a few on site are keen not to give any credit at all to our Ulster achieving PRO......and the fact that all who would 'run the county' do give of their services gratis.....indeed ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
I do believe he deserves great credit, no doubt about it. But if the same stuff is posted on here every week it is in danger of becoming a cliche.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
But back to the leagues I should probably point out that my Glenravel comment was merely in jest in case that was not evident. Certainly Sarsfields will have a big say in the season but I will be interested to see what side or other sides progress and challenge. 

We have saw Aldergrove (population explosion aided), St Teresas, and Davitts all progress nicely from the lower reaches in recent years so one would think there will be other sides on a potential upward curve.  Lisburn seem to have got off to a good start, would they be a side with enough coming through to still have a bit more space to peak or if not what sides, if any, in that division have reason for optimism?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 08:55:07 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
I do believe he deserves great credit, no doubt about it. But if the same stuff is posted on here every week it is in danger of becoming a cliche.

It's like applauding all the work that the coaches/kit men trainers managers committees parents refs for all their time given to keeping club games county teams going... surely a collective pat on the back would suffice ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 08:55:07 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
I do believe he deserves great credit, no doubt about it. But if the same stuff is posted on here every week it is in danger of becoming a cliche.

It's like applauding all the work that the coaches/kit men trainers managers committees parents refs for all their time given to keeping club games county teams going... surely a collective pat on the back would suffice ??

Thats the thing though. All focus one way when many cogs in the wheel doing an equally important job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
But back to the leagues I should probably point out that my Glenravel comment was merely in jest in case that was not evident. Certainly Sarsfields will have a big say in the season but I will be interested to see what side or other sides progress and challenge. 

We have saw Aldergrove (population explosion aided), St Teresas, and Davitts all progress nicely from the lower reaches in recent years so one would think there will be other sides on a potential upward curve.  Lisburn seem to have got off to a good start, would they be a side with enough coming through to still have a bit more space to peak or if not what sides, if any, in that division have reason for optimism?

Just checked the table there in Div3, Lisburn are a suprise package and i see they play Sarsfields at the weekend, maybe worth a visit if it's moved before or after the county game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:36:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
But back to the leagues I should probably point out that my Glenravel comment was merely in jest in case that was not evident. Certainly Sarsfields will have a big say in the season but I will be interested to see what side or other sides progress and challenge. 

We have saw Aldergrove (population explosion aided), St Teresas, and Davitts all progress nicely from the lower reaches in recent years so one would think there will be other sides on a potential upward curve.  Lisburn seem to have got off to a good start, would they be a side with enough coming through to still have a bit more space to peak or if not what sides, if any, in that division have reason for optimism?

Just checked the table there in Div3, Lisburn are a suprise package and i see they play Sarsfields at the weekend, maybe worth a visit if it's moved before or after the county game.

Do you go to any county games??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 07:12:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:36:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
But back to the leagues I should probably point out that my Glenravel comment was merely in jest in case that was not evident. Certainly Sarsfields will have a big say in the season but I will be interested to see what side or other sides progress and challenge. 

We have saw Aldergrove (population explosion aided), St Teresas, and Davitts all progress nicely from the lower reaches in recent years so one would think there will be other sides on a potential upward curve.  Lisburn seem to have got off to a good start, would they be a side with enough coming through to still have a bit more space to peak or if not what sides, if any, in that division have reason for optimism?

Just checked the table there in Div3, Lisburn are a suprise package and i see they play Sarsfields at the weekend, maybe worth a visit if it's moved before or after the county game.

Do you go to any county games??

Do you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:04:56 AM
Probably as much as you... not enough due to my other commitments to the county, unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:04:56 AM
Probably as much as you... not enough due to my other commitments to the county, unfortunately

Glad we've cleared that up mate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on March 31, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
But back to the leagues I should probably point out that my Glenravel comment was merely in jest in case that was not evident. Certainly Sarsfields will have a big say in the season but I will be interested to see what side or other sides progress and challenge. 

We have saw Aldergrove (population explosion aided), St Teresas, and Davitts all progress nicely from the lower reaches in recent years so one would think there will be other sides on a potential upward curve.  Lisburn seem to have got off to a good start, would they be a side with enough coming through to still have a bit more space to peak or if not what sides, if any, in that division have reason for optimism?

Just checked the table there in Div3, Lisburn are a suprise package and i see they play Sarsfields at the weekend, maybe worth a visit if it's moved before or after the county game.

Certainly a big game for both teams at this stage - Lisburn to keep the momentum going and Sarsfields, having tasted defeat already, will be looking to avoid another so as they are not chasing too much early on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 09:37:25 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 31, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 30, 2017, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on March 30, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
But back to the leagues I should probably point out that my Glenravel comment was merely in jest in case that was not evident. Certainly Sarsfields will have a big say in the season but I will be interested to see what side or other sides progress and challenge. 

We have saw Aldergrove (population explosion aided), St Teresas, and Davitts all progress nicely from the lower reaches in recent years so one would think there will be other sides on a potential upward curve.  Lisburn seem to have got off to a good start, would they be a side with enough coming through to still have a bit more space to peak or if not what sides, if any, in that division have reason for optimism?

Just checked the table there in Div3, Lisburn are a suprise package and i see they play Sarsfields at the weekend, maybe worth a visit if it's moved before or after the county game.

Certainly a big game for both teams at this stage - Lisburn to keep the momentum going and Sarsfields, having tasted defeat already, will be looking to avoid another so as they are not chasing too much early on.

I'd still say Sarsfields and Glenravel will be the 2 to come up. Lisburn must of improved alot or gained a few!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2017, 10:14:32 AM
Be interesting to see how we fare this year. Last season we started very badly and never had a settled team with injuries, dual player commitments and a lack of good young players coming up through.

I suppose its part of the development that was done at the club for the past few years that 3 years down the line we actually have a big investment of young lads wanting to play senior football this year. nice to see as they have a good relationship with the senior hurling set up with regards to training and ensuring that players arent being burnt out, over trained and injured players are given the time to rehab.

Staying in Div 2 is the main aim, anything else is a bonus in terms of the league.

I just dont want to see all these minors fired into the team all at once and everyone expect them to just pick up where they left off last year and win games all around them again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:04:56 AM
Probably as much as you... not enough due to my other commitments to the county, unfortunately

Glad we've cleared that up mate.

You still havent answered though, WUM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:04:56 AM
Probably as much as you... not enough due to my other commitments to the county, unfortunately

Glad we've cleared that up mate.

You still havent answered though, WUM

Sure you answered for me bud. Commitments dictate what games I can and cannot go to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 31, 2017, 01:49:56 PM
Attendance at county football games are easily counted...certainlly more at last weeks Feile finals at Ahoghill
than at Corrigan in last two home games and nobody slipped out the gate early. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Sunday a huge test. A 50/50 game that will largely dictate the way the season will be remembered. Hopefully the support gets behind the team and give them a big lift. I think the way some players have stepped up to the plate this year that's the very least they deserve.

On another note hopefully Kevin Niblock will be fit to play. He's the leader of this team but totally riddled with injuries now to the extent that sadly his days in Saffron are numbered. Those are boots that wont be easily filled!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 31, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Sunday a huge test. A 50/50 game that will largely dictate the way the season will be remembered. Hopefully the support gets behind the team and give them a big lift. I think the way some players have stepped up to the plate this year that's the very least they deserve.

On another note hopefully Kevin Niblock will be fit to play. He's the leader of this team but totally riddled with injuries now to the extent that sadly his days in Saffron are numbered. Those are boots that wont be easily filled!

Definitely not easy filled boots. A fine footballer and a gentleman to boot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2017, 03:53:09 PM
Indeed he is PJ. Bumped into him recently and he still retains his passion for Antrim Football but did confide that he is just taking one county game at a time now as he can't do the same yards in training anymore due to the recovery time he needs with so many injuries holding him back.

Here's hoping he does enough to stay in the frame for the championship against Donegal....but that's only a maybe not a given! Which unfortunately means there is a possibility tomorrow may be his last public appearance in Saffron. Hope I'm wrong...but due to the unbelievable service he has given the county I feel that point needs to be put out there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2017, 05:34:27 PM
Minors gave Dublin a game today.....only going under by a couple of points....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2017, 06:59:21 PM
Feedback coming from minor camp is positive and that's on the back of a few decent years in a row now where we look like we can hold our own. Good strong management team helps too of course.

I'd be confident that if you take a good look at what we have aged 16 to 20 you would find a couple of dozen excellent prospects. Our challenge is to make sure they can progress through good minor and under 21 set ups so that when they filter through at senior level they have good habits and are prepared mentally and physically for the ardours of senior football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 02, 2017, 03:49:59 PM
Relegated ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maigheo on April 02, 2017, 03:58:26 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 02, 2017, 06:22:03 PM
Any match reports ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 02, 2017, 06:37:37 PM
Too dejected to write it up. Sport can be a bastard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 02, 2017, 07:16:37 PM
Absolutely gutted...................cruel ending deserved better. :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 02, 2017, 08:28:37 PM
f**king tough being a Saffron

For f**k sake
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 03, 2017, 08:57:09 AM
It was there for us yesterday, it really was, slow to get going but by half way through the second half all looked good for us but unfortunately could not put over the scores and then the sickener right at the end when we had finally got our noses in front with time just about up they went up the field and got a free which was converted.  Disappointing given we were playing against 14 for the majority of the second half and against 13 for the last 20 mins if you include added on time.  Had plenty of time to win the game but just could not get the scores against a resolute Longford defence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 03, 2017, 09:00:47 AM
I see as well Sarsfields easily accounted for Lisburn yesterday to wipe away any chat of Lisburn being on for promotion.  I was hoping maybe we would see someone else step in and give Sarsfields and Glenravel a run but it looks like all pre-season predictions are correct.  Not sure what happened Sarsfields to lose their opening game but they seem to be going through the gears now alright.  While Glenravel seem to have been reigned in a little by their opposition in the last couple of games Sarsfields seem to be going from strength to strength.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Yesterday backed up clearly what I first said here a month ago...that there are footballers in Antrim who can compete in Division three football. Louth and Tipp went up into Division TWO and Armagh narrowly missed out. Yet we held our own with all three of these teams AWAY from home.

Surely that puts to bed the argument that our players arnt good enough! Our U21s go toe to toe with Ulster champs Monaghan, our minors go toe to toe with the Dubs, our development squads more than holding their own.

So let's be clear we have good players in every group. The challenge is to get a couple of dozen of them to the next level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2017, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
Yesterday backed up clearly what I first said here a month ago...that there are footballers in Antrim who can compete in Division three football. Louth and Tipp went up into Division TWO and Armagh narrowly missed out. Yet we held our own with all three of these teams AWAY from home.

Surely that puts to bed the argument that our players arnt good enough! Our U21s go toe to toe with Ulster champs Monaghan, our minors go toe to toe with the Dubs, our development squads more than holding their own.

So let's be clear we have good players in every group. The challenge is to get a couple of dozen of them to the next level.

Agree BS. I never made the game yesterday as the Mrs was working but I listened on the radio and I was getting a constant flow of texts. Seemed to be really gutting and hard to take.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2017, 12:42:32 PM
Before the start of this year Hamill, Gallagher, Healy, Mc Aleer, Hannigan, R McCann, Conor Small, Bradso, Big Jack, Eunan Walsh, Pat Brannigan, Sean Pat, and Donal Nugent hadn't any proper game time for Antrim. That's 13 players who were on the field yesterday who are rookies in inter county terms....and who can all make considerable improvement in the next few years.

Plus our county champions didn't have one player on duty yesterday for whatever reason. Two others were red carded from the week before and you have several injuries to established players like Marty Johnston, Kobo and Ryan Murray. All in all there are lots of reasons why when we are thinking of Antrim Football we should not be too despondent.

In fact I have no doubt that with a really strong management team and a 100% buy in from players Antrim could be capable of playing Division TWO in a couple or three years.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2017, 12:55:37 PM
Interesting point. Ten of that Longford team that started yesterday played on the their team that put Monaghan out of last year's All Ireland qualifiers!

I really hope our county officers now do acknowledge the serious potential that exists if they can help raise the bar now in terms of their own expectations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 03, 2017, 01:18:42 PM
i would love to share the sentiments here after ydays result but the truth is we are where we deserve to be. Bad luck doesnt lose you matches each time, its down to the players and decisions made on the line during the game.

Hurling in Antrim had to accept its lot and build from where it was. We were not good enough to compete in Div 1 and therefore 2a was where we deserved to be, regardless of how many great clubs we had in the county.

Im as disappointed as the next person that we have been relegated, im not a die hard football man but i still support my county regardless. But we are where we deserve to be. We talk about being close to Louth etc but they have been promoted again. Clearly we arent close to them if were at the bottom and them at the top.

Theres undoubted talent in the county but its no use unless it translates into senior footballers on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 03, 2017, 02:33:23 PM
I didn't see as many football games this year as in previous years, but following results and reading reports it was clear the boys were unlucky not to take something from the away games to the top 3 sides. But as yesterday approached it did come down to that one game - win and stay up, and we didn't do that. And we should have done.

For a large period of the second half we had two extra men, yet Longford were still winning all their own kickouts. We had enough payers in the half back line to play a 5 a side match. We weren't offensive enough and that was what plaqued us last year in our 2 championship games. 

15 should beat 13, all day long.

A very depressing outcome to the league campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2017, 08:34:04 PM
Depressing is the word Brendan. The decision makers along the line will be pondering hard if they played their cards right when we had 2 extra men.  Instead of going for the jugular and pushing up we continued with the ultra safe option of packing our defence, and once again it proved our downfall.

Why are we showing teams so much respect. We got into a brilliant position yesterday but fear from opening up and playing football held us back. What would have been wrong with throwing Seamus Mc Garry on the last fifteen minutes with his speed and eye for a score? Or throwing Sean Mc Veigh on midfield where we got cleaned out all day and pushing Matt Fitz or CJ up the pitch to their more natural forward positions?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 04, 2017, 11:38:07 AM
We are full of hard luck stories throughout the league campaign but at the end of the day, when the league status was on the line and you cant beat a team with 13 men at home then I'm sorry but hard luck and bad luck doesn't cut it for me. 

Regardless of the players (and looking back at last years league final and championship run) there is complete ineptitude of how to manage a game. The Fermanagh and Louth games last year showed how naïve we still are.    We can have all the 'potential' players getting minutes etc etc but until these kids AND the senior players learn some game intelligence (and I don't mean just killing a game when you're 5 points up and ten mins to play) then yo-yoing between Div 4 & will be all we are fit for.  Sounds depressing I know but for how many years are we going to look for these hard luck stories and actually start looking at the problem and start educating our footballers properly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 04, 2017, 11:38:07 AM
We are full of hard luck stories throughout the league campaign but at the end of the day, when the league status was on the line and you cant beat a team with 13 men at home then I'm sorry but hard luck and bad luck doesn't cut it for me. 

Regardless of the players (and looking back at last years league final and championship run) there is complete ineptitude of how to manage a game. The Fermanagh and Louth games last year showed how naïve we still are.    We can have all the 'potential' players getting minutes etc etc but until these kids AND the senior players learn some game intelligence (and I don't mean just killing a game when you're 5 points up and ten mins to play) then yo-yoing between Div 4 & will be all we are fit for.  Sounds depressing I know but for how many years are we going to look for these hard luck stories and actually start looking at the problem and start educating our footballers properly.

i can't disagree with much of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
Some serious amount of keyboard managers about, amazing the effort thats put in to talking about a match after its happened and how we could have won the game, I'm surprised the application forms are not over spilling every year when the post is available....

70 minutes goes in a blink of an eye, the amount of instructions being sent out to the team and the players actually carrying out these instructions is two different things, wasnt at the game so cant comment but Ive been involved in managment and the amount of times players take on a defensive role when trying to hold on to a lead is criminal....

That said if it was a case of holding on, then we've had a negative look on these things in the past so its something we need to improve on, the confidence to let the players push forward and express themselves more instead of stiffling defensive tactics (which is very common in Ulster)

As a manager you panic also, this may have been the case and had the desired result had have come about nothing would have been said and the posts would have been about making the panel stronger for next year and looking forward to championship with a sense of achievement, as it is the lads will feel disappointed and dejected after that.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
Some serious amount of keyboard managers about, amazing the effort thats put in to talking about a match after its happened and how we could have won the game, I'm surprised the application forms are not over spilling every year when the post is available....

70 minutes goes in a blink of an eye, the amount of instructions being sent out to the team and the players actually carrying out these instructions is two different things, wasnt at the game so cant comment but Ive been involved in managment and the amount of times players take on a defensive role when trying to hold on to a lead is criminal....

That said if it was a case of holding on, then we've had a negative look on these things in the past so its something we need to improve on, the confidence to let the players push forward and express themselves more instead of stiffling defensive tactics (which is very common in Ulster)

As a manager you panic also, this may have been the case and had the desired result had have come about nothing would have been said and the posts would have been about making the panel stronger for next year and looking forward to championship with a sense of achievement, as it is the lads will feel disappointed and dejected after that.....

Never one to agree with you mate, but a sensible post.

I wasn't at the game on Sunday as previously said as my better half was working. I've heard mixed reports from people who were at it and I have to say most of it was positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
Some serious amount of keyboard managers about, amazing the effort thats put in to talking about a match after its happened and how we could have won the game, I'm surprised the application forms are not over spilling every year when the post is available....

70 minutes goes in a blink of an eye, the amount of instructions being sent out to the team and the players actually carrying out these instructions is two different things, wasnt at the game so cant comment but Ive been involved in managment and the amount of times players take on a defensive role when trying to hold on to a lead is criminal....

That said if it was a case of holding on, then we've had a negative look on these things in the past so its something we need to improve on, the confidence to let the players push forward and express themselves more instead of stiffling defensive tactics (which is very common in Ulster)

We weren't holding onto a lead, we only got into the lead in the 6th minute of injury time. Prior to that we needed to score to get the lead. We were holding onto a defecit.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 04, 2017, 04:30:05 PM
Of course we're all Keyboard managers on here!! Do you think Mickey Harte is on the Tyrone page bleating on about the county board???! of course not - we're on  here to give our opinions and all are valid.

In the last four important games Antrim have played in they have been found wanting in the management both on the line and on the pitch.   The Louth and Fermanagh games were particularly shocking tactically (I would go as far to say THE worst I have ever seen) but I was hoping a new season and much reflection would have made them wiser. 

At intercounty level, a 13 man team with so much time remaining in the game should not leave the pitch with a victory unless they have built a huge lead.  Remember these are our best and brightest footballers so wheres the leader and brains of this team?   No one is saying Antrim should be competing with Kerry and Dublin but surely a comfortable existence in Div 3 should be the absolute minimum aim of this group of players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 04, 2017, 04:30:05 PM
Of course we're all Keyboard managers on here!! Do you think Mickey Harte is on the Tyrone page bleating on about the county board???! of course not - we're on  here to give our opinions and all are valid.

In the last four important games Antrim have played in they have been found wanting in the management both on the line and on the pitch.   The Louth and Fermanagh games were particularly shocking tactically (I would go as far to say THE worst I have ever seen) but I was hoping a new season and much reflection would have made them wiser. 

At intercounty level, a 13 man team with so much time remaining in the game should not leave the pitch with a victory unless they have built a huge lead.  Remember these are our best and brightest footballers so wheres the leader and brains of this team?   No one is saying Antrim should be competing with Kerry and Dublin but surely a comfortable existence in Div 3 should be the absolute minimum aim of this group of players.

Did you watch of Frank Dawsons reign?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2017, 04:59:56 PM
didnt get to the game on sunday due to commitments with our camogs but im one of the keyboard managers. Look i take no please in maoning about my own county. I wanted them to win badly to maintain that hard worked status of Div3 football but sadly we were not good enough.

Antrim is the team everyone wants in the ulster draw each time. were the weakest of the 9 counties and constantly punching above our weight until the qualifiers where we get a decent chance to win a game against someone on our level. Anything after that is a bonus.

I take no joy at all in saying it but Div4 is our standard for the time being.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 04, 2017, 05:26:48 PM
Frank's tenure was indeed abysmal but even he didn't play a match deliberately allowing the opposition a free forward. :(   
Frank has the meagre and unforgiveable excuse that he obviously hadn't seen an Antrim Club match in 20 years - the current incumbents don't even have that to fall back on. 

We seem to be totally reliant on luck getting us through games..........problem is we don't seem to be very lucky!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 04, 2017, 05:26:48 PM
Frank's tenure was indeed abysmal but even he didn't play a match deliberately allowing the opposition a free forward. :(   
Frank has the meagre and unforgiveable excuse that he obviously hadn't seen an Antrim Club match in 20 years - the current incumbents don't even have that to fall back on. 

We seem to be totally reliant on luck getting us through games..........problem is we don't seem to be very lucky!

Look as said already we are where we are with the players we've got who'll commit to the squad, tactics aside we are limited slightly with personal and squad size, as that's just what is available ..

there seems to be a need to throw the managers out at every defeat or season.... we could looked at a series of incidents throughout the season were players have made mistakes that cost Antrim the match, not one call in here or anywhere else to have those players chopped, but hey ho the managers are fair game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Not sure anyone has mentioned 'throwing out the managers'. And how can we forget Frank Dawson's championship match v Monaghan, where the team was set up solely to ensure a 'not too bad' defeat, which was what we got that day. It was appalling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Not sure anyone has mentioned 'throwing out the managers'. And how can we forget Frank Dawson's championship match v Monaghan, where the team was set up solely to ensure a 'not too bad' defeat, which was what we got that day. It was appalling.

Spike put this up  'there is complete ineptitude of how to manage a game' and you agreed... now if that's not blaming the managers I don't know what is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
I didn't read Spike's post as a call to throw out the managers. I agreed with sentiment that at home, v 13 men, you can't blame hard luck if you don't win. As someone else said a few pages ago, that game was there for us, and in my view we should have gone on the front foot and been more offensive.

That might make me 'keyboard manager' but hey, it's a discussion board!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 10:35:34 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
I didn't read Spike's post as a call to throw out the managers. I agreed with sentiment that at home, v 13 men, you can't blame hard luck if you don't win. As someone else said a few pages ago, that game was there for us, and in my view we should have gone on the front foot and been more offensive.

That might make me 'keyboard manager' but hey, it's a discussion board!

That's great, maybe one reason why it's actually easier to talk about it than actually manage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 05, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Much easier to talk than manage, happens up and down the country at every game every week folk will be watching calling the game as it goes and scratching their heads at what they see at times - I am totally guilty of it and am not alone.  I have seen cases as well where a majority are calling for a certain inclusion or positional switch week after week and then when the management give in it proves to be an absolute failure - I have also seen it work the other way where it pays off handsomely.  Sure it is all about opinions but I think there is a need to say look these are the guys that are in charge, let them get on with it, support them and then assess when the season is over - otherwise you end up with far too many cooks who all know best to the point one clear line of thinking is impossible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2017, 11:59:14 AM
Joint management teams are difficult to run with unless you are both very like minded..... Everyone has a fixed view on how they would run a team, what drills to improve on how the intesity should be, the type of player for positions, conditioning of the teams, attitude of players that would fit in with your views....

At club level you're dealt mainly with a hand that you cant change, at county level you have a chance to bring together the best/committed players, who are (should be) at the top of their game phyiscally mentally and skill wise, thats a lot of alfa males to fecking manage..

just on one game, as i seen a video of the final moments. the beauty of that team score to go in front to the recklessness of the players to allow a quick kick out by the keeper (stand in front of the keeper dont give him options, take a yellow card, the ball cant be moved forward from a kick out) push up on every player for that kick out (with the extra men) snuff out the charge forward and give away free either in the half back line or the midfield area (not cynical enough, too nice) or have the ability to apply pressure on a player thats looking to score from play rather than 3 players charge down a player past the 45 line and give away an easy one for the ref!!!

Now if we are reviewing the season, we got promoted last year and by in large, bar the Offaly game, we performed pretty well and unlucky in a few games.... We should have stayed up but i see no reason, should this group of lads plus a few add ons cant get promoted next year and build on the expereinces of this year... We'd need at least 3/4 years at div 3 to look to push on again..

I think possibly a better start in the McKenna cup where if we got the fitness levels higher and strength and conditioning earlier, we'd come into the league with a higher tempo and build some confident results/games rather than getting a thumping by the stronger Ulster teams... again all opinions and everyone has them, bit like arseholes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Another hard luck story forever told and retold in our county, but again I would suggest that we will never move forwards and indeed upwards until we come to terms with the fact that more and more players are not at all interested in donning the Saffron jersey......and ask Why.
Jeez even look at the number of those who decided to lend support to the Antrim cause on Sunday....a few hundred I guess and most likely outnumbered by Longford people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Another hard luck story forever told and retold in our county, but again I would suggest that we will never move forwards and indeed upwards until we come to terms with the fact that more and more players are not at all interested in donning the Saffron jersey......and ask Why.
Jeez even look at the number of those who decided to lend support to the Antrim cause on Sunday....a few hundred I guess and most likely outnumbered by Longford people.

It was a "huge crowd" according to the Antrim twitter feed !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 05, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Look no one has called for the managers heads but we are now in the 3rd year of this project and, just like footballers, managers have to learn too.
I'm talking about the basics of management - Team set up & Selection..........and if the opposition loses 2 men how to overwhelm them.  Creating and Countering the oppositions tactics is where the top line managers in Div 1 earn their corn and we are not even talking about that here.

A player will get rightly slated if he makes a horrendous error and managers cant be above that if they too make horrendous errors. In my opinion (and It may be just my opinion), the tactical decisions made against Louth in Croke Park, Fermanagh in C'Ship and failure to adjust a team to beat a 13 man Longford side (reminder with respect this wasn't a Dublin/Kerry side) were reprehensible errors in management.    This isn't managing the Johnnies 3rds, playing away in Twinbrook on a Sunday morning after a skinful the night before - this is supposed to be the top management position in the county so they would need a sharp learning curve prior to championship. 

We aren't privy to the tactics, player availabilities etc of the other teams in Div 3 through the campaign - we most likely would have accepted the scenario if offered at the start of the year that it would be all or nothing, last game, at home, against Longford, them down to 13 men with 20 mins to go. All we can say for certain was it was when it was put up to them, Antrim choked tactically.

Fact of the matter is that no team that gets relegated doesn't deserve it and no matter what spin you put on it, its a bad campaign and management and players deserve to be scrutinised for their performances.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Another hard luck story forever told and retold in our county, but again I would suggest that we will never move forwards and indeed upwards until we come to terms with the fact that more and more players are not at all interested in donning the Saffron jersey......and ask Why.
Jeez even look at the number of those who decided to lend support to the Antrim cause on Sunday....a few hundred I guess and most likely outnumbered by Longford people.

It was a "huge crowd" according to the Antrim twitter feed !
Yep was indeed a few hundred.......in the midle of West Belfast .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2017, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Another hard luck story forever told and retold in our county, but again I would suggest that we will never move forwards and indeed upwards until we come to terms with the fact that more and more players are not at all interested in donning the Saffron jersey......and ask Why.
Jeez even look at the number of those who decided to lend support to the Antrim cause on Sunday....a few hundred I guess and most likely outnumbered by Longford people.

It was a "huge crowd" according to the Antrim twitter feed !
Yep was indeed a few hundred.......in the midle of West Belfast .

Can just picture you running around Corrigan doing a head count #getafeckinglife
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2017, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2017, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Another hard luck story forever told and retold in our county, but again I would suggest that we will never move forwards and indeed upwards until we come to terms with the fact that more and more players are not at all interested in donning the Saffron jersey......and ask Why.
Jeez even look at the number of those who decided to lend support to the Antrim cause on Sunday....a few hundred I guess and most likely outnumbered by Longford people.

It was a "huge crowd" according to the Antrim twitter feed !
Yep was indeed a few hundred.......in the midle of West Belfast .

Can just picture you running around Corrigan doing a head count #getafeckinglife


#getcasementbuilt

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2017, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2017, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 05, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Another hard luck story forever told and retold in our county, but again I would suggest that we will never move forwards and indeed upwards until we come to terms with the fact that more and more players are not at all interested in donning the Saffron jersey......and ask Why.
Jeez even look at the number of those who decided to lend support to the Antrim cause on Sunday....a few hundred I guess and most likely outnumbered by Longford people.

It was a "huge crowd" according to the Antrim twitter feed !
Yep was indeed a few hundred.......in the midle of West Belfast .

Can just picture you running around Corrigan doing a head count #getafeckinglife


#getcasementbuilt
Nope followed another's example.....scuttled away early and took a head count as they made exit ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2017, 02:19:38 PM
Sure we really do need a new stand, but not in Ballymena, Toome, Ahoghill, Glenravel, Creggan, Whitehill or any S West venue... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 09, 2017, 03:23:28 PM
Its unbelievable how blatant a move this is to look after your own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 09, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
Ach no way lads.. surely it's for the betterment of the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2017, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 09, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
Ach no way lads.. surely it's for the betterment of the county.
And anyway might cause a row in Toome......we would need a couple to cover both pitches ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 09, 2017, 07:02:06 PM
Cargin very impressive today. Blew us away from start to finish. Will take a very good team to get points in Toome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2017, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2017, 07:02:06 PM
Cargin very impressive today. Blew us away from start to finish. Will take a very good team to get points in Toome.
Sure a former Casement's player.....now a 'manager' has voiced opinion Cargin are a 'team of old men' and there for the taking BS.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 09, 2017, 07:48:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2017, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 09, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
Ach no way lads.. surely it's for the betterment of the county.
And anyway might cause a row in Toome......we would need a couple to cover both pitches ;)

Or one to cover the 3 pitches in Whitehill or Glenravel or Ballymena..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 09, 2017, 09:04:25 PM
To be honest CB I think Cargin might still be improving.  Playing a very quick direct brand of football that's very effective. When all players return you would have great competition for places.

Who are your new faces along the line with John Brennan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2017, 09:10:15 PM
Dunno the name.....Tyrone man, I hear was their u-21 trainer and seems more than popular amongst the players....gym wirk has brought players like J Carron, C Bradley, and M Clarke on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2017, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2017, 09:10:15 PM
Dunno the name.....Tyrone man, I hear was their u-21 trainer and seems more than popular amongst the players....gym wirk has brought players like J Carron, C Bradley, and M Clarke on.

Be Croke park at this rate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 10, 2017, 09:17:04 AM
Maybe more of a reality check for Portglenone than anything else and all with the caveat that it is the first game of the season.

Aghagallon while not getting beaten would have been disappointed not to get the win against another relegation rival though they were still playing a team with a few years Div 1 experience at this point. 

On the theme of reality checks see Ardoyne and Antrim yesterday against two of last seasons bottom half teams in Div 2. 

Elsewhere not sure if it was a good result for Rasharkin or a bad one for Ballymena or something inbetween. 

Probably most notable result in Div 2 was St Endas easily accounting for St Brigids as they look to keep the upward momentum going. 

Meanwhile Sarsfields, after their victory in Glenravel, have now acquired the outright favourites tag for Div 3 which is now well underway where the early season caveat no longer applies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on April 10, 2017, 09:20:24 AM
No real shocks in yesterdays round of games, maybe only Moneyglass beating Glenavy in Div 2 and Sarsfields beating Glenravel in Div 3. Both away wins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on April 10, 2017, 10:44:13 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 10, 2017, 09:20:24 AM
No real shocks in yesterdays round of games, maybe only Moneyglass beating Glenavy in Div 2 and Sarsfields beating Glenravel in Div 3. Both away wins

Glenavy missing quite a few regulars yesterday but 6 up at half time, very much a game of two halves.

Watched Cargin on Wednesday night whilst the opposition not at their level they looked very impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 16, 2017, 12:08:09 PM
Seems he is gone, but the former CCC chairman has returned to the rescue.....only in Antrim :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 19, 2017, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 16, 2017, 12:08:09 PM
Seems he is gone, but the former CCC chairman has returned to the rescue.....only in Antrim :)

Surely not!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on April 19, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
Can't believe what I was told about what happened to one of our senior footballers thank god for wee joe Edwards if this is true I despair can you confirm country bumpkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 19, 2017, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Clover on April 19, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
Can't believe what I was told about what happened to one of our senior footballers thank god for wee joe Edwards if this is true I despair can you confirm country bumpkin

Place to video from in the new super Corrigan Stand?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 19, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Clover on April 19, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
Can't believe what I was told about what happened to one of our senior footballers thank god for wee joe Edwards if this is true I despair can you confirm country bumpkin
Can indeed confirm that one of our senior footballers was suspended on suspect vt evidence which was to rule him out of ulster championship until management and J E made successful appeal, and the tale is common knowledge within the ranks................another OG for the SV.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 19, 2017, 02:03:53 PM
How could SV suspend a player from ulster championship ?
Only ulster council ccc could do that !
Videoing if matches needs approval by co.secretary.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 19, 2017, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 19, 2017, 02:03:53 PM
How could SV suspend a player from ulster championship ?
Only ulster council ccc could do that !
Videoing if matches needs approval by co.secretary.

Where did anybody say that SV suspended him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 19, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 19, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Clover on April 19, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
Can't believe what I was told about what happened to one of our senior footballers thank god for wee joe Edwards if this is true I despair can you confirm country bumpkin
Can indeed confirm that one of our senior footballers was suspended on suspect vt evidence which was to rule him out of ulster championship until management and J E made successful appeal, and the tale is common knowledge within the ranks................another OG for the SV.......

too much code for M E. V T  and J E with O G and S V FS CB at least decode some of it for M E
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 19, 2017, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 19, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 19, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Clover on April 19, 2017, 01:30:53 PM
Can't believe what I was told about what happened to one of our senior footballers thank god for wee joe Edwards if this is true I despair can you confirm country bumpkin
Can indeed confirm that one of our senior footballers was suspended on suspect vt evidence which was to rule him out of ulster championship until management and J E made successful appeal, and the tale is common knowledge within the ranks................another OG for the SV.......

too much code for M E. V T  and J E with O G and S V FS CB at least decode some of it for M E

VT = Video Tape ( I Think)

OG = Own Goal

SV = Saffron Vision

JE = Joe ( The legend)Edwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on April 19, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
Wee joe a big loss to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 19, 2017, 06:06:23 PM
SV  need to read the official guide to understand how GAA actually works
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 19, 2017, 10:16:44 PM
Hard to beat the club scene. Division One going to be interesting this year with lots of clubs capable of taking points off others. Division two hotting up well too. Dunloy off to a flyer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 20, 2017, 08:52:50 AM
yeah it was a good result away to All Saints last night. played the most of the second half with 14 men as well and came away with a 2 point win. Not a bad start to the season for a change.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Cargin chinned at Creggan.....back to the drawing board :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 20, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Cargin chinned at Creggan.....back to the drawing board :)

Team of old men  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 20, 2017, 04:47:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 20, 2017, 08:52:50 AM
yeah it was a good result away to All Saints last night. played the most of the second half with 14 men as well and came away with a 2 point win. Not a bad start to the season for a change.

Ballymena lack in finesse what they have in physical stature.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on April 20, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Cargin chinned at Creggan.....back to the drawing board :)

Was it a good game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 20, 2017, 08:47:27 PM
No medals in April. But good to see Mr Brennan getting some meaningful competition from an Antrim club team...lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on April 20, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Cargin chinned at Creggan.....back to the drawing board :)
[/quote
Team of old men  ;)
Indeed .......on the way out to pasture......can hear the lamentations...... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2017, 10:15:57 AM
Local rivials getting beat in the early stages of the league!! The Johnnies will be happy with their performance as will Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 21, 2017, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on April 20, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Cargin chinned at Creggan.....back to the drawing board :)
[/quote
Team of old men  ;)
Indeed .......on the way out to pasture......can hear the lamentations...... :'(

Haha yeah your boys would be happy for folk to be thinking that way too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 21, 2017, 06:02:20 PM
Would not tell a lie 'Hectic' indeed JB fears he has lost it and with his full focus on the retention of the league title 2017 possibly in jeopardy he has threatened the way of the Sumari if his boys lose another game....yep Hari Kari may be the outcome  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2017, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 21, 2017, 06:02:20 PM
Would not tell a lie 'Hectic' indeed JB fears he has lost it and with his full focus on the retention of the league title 2017 possibly in jeopardy he has threatened the way of the Sumari if his boys lose another game....yep Hari Kari may be the outcome  :'(

Would have to get those medals out of the river Bann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 08:45:55 PM
ffs only in Antrim....the sh@t has really hit the fan.....will we even field in Donegal.
Take a bow SV......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 23, 2017, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 08:45:55 PM
ffs only in Antrim....the sh@t has really hit the fan.....will we even field in Donegal.
Take a bow SV......

Surely not...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
Surely, and it seems I am the only one to have seen that evidence of such........senior players unhappy and that is much an under statement :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 23, 2017, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
Surely, and it seems I am the only one to have seen that evidence of such........senior players unhappy and that is much an under statement :'(

Maybe have to get the current county champions to represent the county in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2017, 10:15:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 23, 2017, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 09:54:46 PM
Surely, and it seems I am the only one to have seen that evidence of such........senior players unhappy and that is much an under statement :'(

Maybe have to get the current county champions to represent the county in Ulster.

With their current record in Ulster club ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 23, 2017, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkinm

link=topic=21.msg1689912#msg1689912 date=1492980886
Surely, and it seems I am the only one to have seen that evidence of such........senior players unhappy and that is much an under statement :'(



Maybe have to get the current county champions to represent the county in Ulster.
Would take some coaxing......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 23, 2017, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 23, 2017, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkinm

link=topic=21.msg1689912#msg1689912 date=1492980886
Surely, and it seems I am the only one to have seen that evidence of such........senior players unhappy and that is much an under statement :'(



Maybe have to get the current county champions to represent the county in Ulster.
Would take some coaxing......

What's the oul saying Loose Lips sinks ships?

Anybody a number for Donal Og or John Gardiner?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2017, 11:05:31 PM
Be quicker getting Cargin to play for Derry I'd imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2017, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 09:42:07 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 23, 2017, 08:45:55 PM
ffs only in Antrim....the sh@t has really hit the fan.....will we even field in Donegal.
Take a bow SV......

For those of us who don't know what you're on about...what are you on about??

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
Back to page 918 and read the bottom few posts. Things have taken a turn for the worst.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
must be a SW thing.....

See what i did there?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
Back to page 918 and read the bottom few posts. Things have taken a turn for the worst.



Still as clear as mud!
Seems our senior football team is very concerned at their perception of the complete failure of our County executive to act in a supportive role for one of their number.
They have forwarded a letter to that body outlining such concerns
Document signed bu all the panelists and has been circulated to clubs.
Again Only in Antrim :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
must be a SW thing.....

See what i did there?  ::)

Bit blind perhaps........but i do see what you are endeavoring to do...

Ever hear of the great Muddy Waters  ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:18:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
must be a SW thing.....

See what i did there?  ::)

Bit blind perhaps........but i do see what you are endeavoring to do...

Ever hear of the great Muddy Waters  ??

No, were they a 70's group?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
Back to page 918 and read the bottom few posts. Things have taken a turn for the worst.



Still as clear as mud!
Seems our senior football team is very concerned at their perception of the complete failure of our County executive to act in a supportive role for one of their number.
They have forwarded a letter to that body outlining such concerns
Document signed bu all the panelists and has been circulated to clubs.
Again Only in Antrim :'(

Well if there is a letter out there and everyone knows why be cloak and dagger about it? so first off, what did the player do and when did it happen and why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
Back to page 918 and read the bottom few posts. Things have taken a turn for the worst.



Still as clear as mud!
Seems our senior football team is very concerned at their perception of the complete failure of our County executive to act in a supportive role for one of their number.
They have forwarded a letter to that body outlining such concerns
Document signed bu all the panelists and has been circulated to clubs.
Again Only in Antrim :'(

Well if there is a letter out there and everyone knows why be cloak and dagger about it? so first off, what did the player do and when did it happen and why?
Can see at least four signatures placed by Milltown Blues on the document......ask them or indeeed ur club sec.. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
Back to page 918 and read the bottom few posts. Things have taken a turn for the worst.



Still as clear as mud!
Seems our senior football team is very concerned at their perception of the complete failure of our County executive to act in a supportive role for one of their number.
They have forwarded a letter to that body outlining such concerns
Document signed bu all the panelists and has been circulated to clubs.
Again Only in Antrim :'(

Well if there is a letter out there and everyone knows why be cloak and dagger about it? so first off, what did the player do and when did it happen and why?
Can see at least four signatures placed by Milltown Blues on the document......ask them or indeeed ur club sec.. :)

You're still not making any sense lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on April 24, 2017, 03:37:34 PM
QuoteAntrim County Board,

We, the Antrim Senior County Footballers, are writing to you as a collective to voice our anger and
extreme frustration at the recent decision taken by members of the County Board. This decision
identified a member of our team for an alleged incident that occurred against Armagh on the
25th March 2017. Croke Park officials issued an image of the alleged incident and requested the player
to be named. County Management and two members of the County Board reviewed the image and it
was agreed that the player could not be identified with total certainty. Subsequently, the player was
then identified, without consulting County Management. This resulted in a suspension which was later
successfully appealed. It was only after the County Board identified this player a second time that a
second suspension was issued. As a result, the player in question could potentially miss the biggest
game of the year against Donegal in the Ulster Championship.
We find it unacceptable that not only was this player suspended as a result of information provided by
our own County Board but that there was no county representative available to accompany him for his
appeal. We do not believe that this course of action would occur in any other county.
Unfortunately, as a team, we cannot stand by and allow this mistreatment of our teammate. We feel
we need to make our concerns clear to our County Board that we find it completely unacceptable that
any player who has dedicated months of hard work and sacrificed many parts of his life to represent
his county should be treated in this way and let down by representatives who are purportedly in a
position of support.
This decision will be contested again and we would expect full support from our County Board in this
matter.
Faithfully,

Antrim Senior Football Team
{player signatures}
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2017, 03:43:16 PM
Should the county board not have named the player in question, does that not leave them open to suspension themselves?

Poor form that no one was there to accompany the player to the appeal hearing, outside of that I dont see what the issue is here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 04:07:36 PM
jeeze that didnt hurt!!

While we much prefer the ref to deal with this there and then, this sort of stuff has been going on for a while now, and i'd say if Croke Park issue a request on naming a player in an image then that would need to be given? no?

Antrim has never been great at this stuff, unlike Armagh and Tyrone in turning over these sort of decisions, why the county is being blamed on giving up this lad for something he did/didnt depending on what it was (I take it the lad in question carried out an off the ball red card offence?) is silly, if shoe on the other foot and Micheal Murphy was getting a ban we'd be all for it and saying how well the Donegal county board has dealt with that ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 05:07:55 PM
Is that it??  Youngsters don't know they're born these days!!
Been about a while AQMP........but cannot recall a player receiving sentence, dubios or otherwise and winnin an appeal on such......then recalled a few weeks later and initial sanction imposed again.....but possibly in "your day" this was commion place :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2017, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2017, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 24, 2017, 05:07:55 PM
Is that it??  Youngsters don't know they're born these days!!
Been about a while AQMP........but cannot recall a player receiving sentence, dubios or otherwise and winnin an appeal on such......then recalled a few weeks later and initial sanction imposed again.....but possibly in "your day" this was commion place :D

What are you saying here? It's ok to let players off the hook, I'm not talking about Antrim player here, just in general?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 24, 2017, 11:21:07 PM
Quote from: aontroim on April 24, 2017, 03:37:34 PM
QuoteAntrim County Board,

We, the Antrim Senior County Footballers, are writing to you as a collective to voice our anger and
extreme frustration at the recent decision taken by members of the County Board. This decision
identified a member of our team for an alleged incident that occurred against Armagh on the
25th March 2017. Croke Park officials issued an image of the alleged incident and requested the player
to be named. County Management and two members of the County Board reviewed the image and it
was agreed that the player could not be identified with total certainty. Subsequently, the player was
then identified, without consulting County Management. This resulted in a suspension which was later
successfully appealed. It was only after the County Board identified this player a second time that a
second suspension was issued. As a result, the player in question could potentially miss the biggest
game of the year against Donegal in the Ulster Championship.
We find it unacceptable that not only was this player suspended as a result of information provided by
our own County Board but that there was no county representative available to accompany him for his
appeal. We do not believe that this course of action would occur in any other county.
Unfortunately, as a team, we cannot stand by and allow this mistreatment of our teammate. We feel
we need to make our concerns clear to our County Board that we find it completely unacceptable that
any player who has dedicated months of hard work and sacrificed many parts of his life to represent
his county should be treated in this way and let down by representatives who are purportedly in a
position of support.
This decision will be contested again and we would expect full support from our County Board in this
matter.
Faithfully,

Antrim Senior Football Team
{player signatures}

Antrim Football Panel: "Lads we've been relegated this year BUT on a positive note we haven't had the usual annual fall out that goes to the press and paints us in a bad light"

Antrim Football Panel after some reflection: "WE'LL SOON SEE ABOUT THAT"

Comical stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TyroneOnlooker on April 25, 2017, 08:06:04 AM
Am I missing something here? What do the Antrim players want here? If Croke Park have asked for a name, should the Antrim County Board refuse to comply? Where would that leave them in terms of the ethos of the game?

If a player has been up to no good then surely they must face the consequences.

That's not to say Antrim County Board shouldn't still try and defend him, if indeed what he did was defensible. We can all remember plenty of Tyrone/Dublin/Mayo/Armagh offences over the years that have been overturned due to 'technicalities'.

I hate to say it but...only in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2017, 08:47:24 AM
+1
I'd suggest the lack of integrity that I sense here tells its own tale.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 25, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
Yeah the lad in question should have had some representation from our County at his hearing.  Not sure what the rest of the letter is about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2017, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Hectic on April 25, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
Yeah the lad in question should have had some representation from our County at his hearing.  Not sure what the rest of the letter is about.

It's a bit of a sticky one for Antrim CB when Croke Park no doubt were putting them under pressure for a name to be seen to be coming down hard on what must have been an off the ball incident reading between the lines and trying to keep the player in question available for the championship. Not giving any name due to lack of "total certainty" will only wash for so long.
If there was genuine doubt as to the person in the photo it doesn't say much for the lad who probably knew it was him and was content to keep his gub shut and let this shit get to the letter writing stage.

Irrespective it was bad manners that the Antrim Croke Park delegate or someone in the county executive wasn't there to represent the lad in question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 25, 2017, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2017, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Hectic on April 25, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
Yeah the lad in question should have had some representation from our County at his hearing.  Not sure what the rest of the letter is about.

It's a bit of a sticky one for Antrim CB when Croke Park no doubt were putting them under pressure for a name to be seen to be coming down hard on what must have been an off the ball incident reading between the lines and trying to keep the player in question available for the championship. Not giving any name due to lack of "total certainty" will only wash for so long.
If there was genuine doubt as to the person in the photo it doesn't say much for the lad who probably knew it was him and was content to keep his gub shut and let this shit get to the letter writing stage.

Irrespective it was bad manners that the Antrim Croke Park delegate or someone in the county executive wasn't there to represent the lad in question.
Think concern expressed as to how the original judgement was overturned on an appeal which the CB could or would not  take part and then was revisited a few weeks later with the original decision imposed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 12:17:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 25, 2017, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2017, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Hectic on April 25, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
Yeah the lad in question should have had some representation from our County at his hearing.  Not sure what the rest of the letter is about.

It's a bit of a sticky one for Antrim CB when Croke Park no doubt were putting them under pressure for a name to be seen to be coming down hard on what must have been an off the ball incident reading between the lines and trying to keep the player in question available for the championship. Not giving any name due to lack of "total certainty" will only wash for so long.
If there was genuine doubt as to the person in the photo it doesn't say much for the lad who probably knew it was him and was content to keep his gub shut and let this shit get to the letter writing stage.

Irrespective it was bad manners that the Antrim Croke Park delegate or someone in the county executive wasn't there to represent the lad in question.
Think concern expressed as to how the original judgement was overturned on an appeal which the CB could or would not  take part and then was revisited a few weeks later with the original decision imposed.

I'm sure if they use the same logic that turned over the first appeal then it would surely turn over the other appeal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
I was speaking to a lad very close to the panel last night, he says its the straw that broke the camels back for them over quite a lot of issues that the panel have had and that is why they took they course of action that they did.  He didn't divulge a huge amount of detail as to what issues they were and I didn't ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2017, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
I was speaking to a lad very close to the panel last night, he says its the straw that broke the camels back for them over quite a lot of issues that the panel have had and that is why they took they course of action that they did.  He didn't divulge a huge amount of detail as to what issues they were and I didn't ask.

See that is complete BS

If they have issues of how they are being treated, come out and be honest and tell everyone what they are.

Don't hide behind some none issue as a catch all because then no one will support them.

Draw up a list of grievances take it to the CB and try to get it dealt with like men and if then they dont get the support they feel they deserve take some sort of action accordingly.

But not this as it only serves to weaken what ever position they 'thought' they had on the relevant issues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2017, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
I was speaking to a lad very close to the panel last night, he says its the straw that broke the camels back for them over quite a lot of issues that the panel have had and that is why they took they course of action that they did.  He didn't divulge a huge amount of detail as to what issues they were and I didn't ask.

"A lad very close to the panel" does that mean one of the current squad??  It's very hard to judge the rights and wrongs of "issues" or even resolve them when one of the players who has these "issues" won't say what they are.

His brother is on the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on April 25, 2017, 01:12:33 PM
The most amazing thing is we're is bannside can he not get out of sv backside to sort this out he's got inside info from both camps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 25, 2017, 01:34:39 PM
Frustrating to see us back in the news for the wrong reasons. :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 01:39:18 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 25, 2017, 01:34:39 PM
Frustrating to see us back in the news for the wrong reasons. :(

Self inflicted as usual
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2017, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 25, 2017, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
I was speaking to a lad very close to the panel last night, he says its the straw that broke the camels back for them over quite a lot of issues that the panel have had and that is why they took they course of action that they did.  He didn't divulge a huge amount of detail as to what issues they were and I didn't ask.

"A lad very close to the panel" does that mean one of the current squad??  It's very hard to judge the rights and wrongs of "issues" or even resolve them when one of the players who has these "issues" won't say what they are.
His brother is on the squad.

Right.  Maybe you could ask him to ask his brother what are the issues the squad has?

No chance lol..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
https://mmj.tees.ac.uk/~project41/2017/04/25/hung-out-to-dry/

seems strange on two fronts, until we get the full story (and not from a brother of a guy who may or may not be on the squad) I wouldnt pass judgement on it.... If the player did something and was caught then deal with it, if its no conclusive and it could be a number of players due to poor image then Croke park needs to be definitive on the rules for this also...

but no lets get the media on it and make Antrim a news story for all the wrong reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
https://mmj.tees.ac.uk/~project41/2017/04/25/hung-out-to-dry/

seems strange on two fronts, until we get the full story (and not from a brother of a guy who may or may not be on the squad) I wouldnt pass judgement on it.... If the player did something and was caught then deal with it, if its no conclusive and it could be a number of players due to poor image then Croke park needs to be definitive on the rules for this also...

but no lets get the media on it and make Antrim a news story for all the wrong reasons

You doubting me Dazza?

Agree,  yet again Antrim make the headlines for the wrong reasons..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 25, 2017, 03:21:10 PM
im just catching up on all of this.

So is the jist of it that the county were asked to identify a player for an off the ball incident, they 'couldnt' do it and our county board did it for them without the county management knowing about it?

And the management are pissed because he was identified and will now miss the donegal game, because of something he actually did?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on April 25, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
Yeah look if an offence was committed by the player then there are procedures in place to deal with this.  If he is guilty he is guilty and if the process is followed correctly then the outcome should be clear - well as clear as anything in these cases BUT the CB should have had some representation with him, similar cases should have been taken into account and any precedent thrown into the mix to support his case for either no sentence or minimal sentence if applicable - CB representation should have made this case stronger.

If the players have other grievances then, as pointed out previously here, then they should be raised either with this or separately but not under the guise of this one individual issue.  It is like giving your neighbour a slap on the nose for not holding a door for you and telling the world that this is why you did it when the real reason is he burned your hedge, ate your geraniums and threw a hot sausage from his BBQ into your fish pond.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 03:34:57 PM
Quote from: Hectic on April 25, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
Yeah look if an offence was committed by the player then there are procedures in place to deal with this.  If he is guilty he is guilty and if the process is followed correctly then the outcome should be clear - well as clear as anything in these cases BUT the CB should have had some representation with him, similar cases should have been taken into account and any precedent thrown into the mix to support his case for either no sentence or minimal sentence if applicable - CB representation should have made this case stronger.

If the players have other grievances then, as pointed out previously here, then they should be raised either with this or separately but not under the guise of this one individual issue.  It is like giving your neighbour a slap on the nose for not holding a door for you and telling the world that this is why you did it when the real reason is he burned your hedge, ate your geraniums and threw a hot sausage from his BBQ into your fish pond.

The Hot Sausage wouldn't stand a chance!

The person I spoke to wasn't in any mood to be asked about other issues and I wasn't for asking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on April 25, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
The player should have had a county representative with him, full stop.

The rest, what a load of oul bollocks.

If you're caught doing something wrong, stand up like a man and take your medicine, keep your integrity.
I am very disillusioned with both clubs and county boards trying all they can to get offences / sentences off on technicalities; see above, be a man about it.
If the fact that all players signed that letter, ... 'nuff said.

Bang goes the trip to ballybofey, or maybe the current might of cargin could form and amicable amalgamation with the ulster experience of st galls managed by joint MR/CB for the trip to Donegal ?

PS. give the sausage to the dog.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Throw ball on April 25, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
If reports are correct the officials were busy that day. McGeeney seemingly facing a 12 week ban for verbal abuse of Joe McQuillan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: bogieman on April 25, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
The player should have had a county representative with him, full stop.

The rest, what a load of oul bollocks.

If you're caught doing something wrong, stand up like a man and take your medicine, keep your integrity.
I am very disillusioned with both clubs and county boards trying all they can to get offences / sentences off on technicalities; see above, be a man about it.
If the fact that all players signed that letter, ... 'nuff said.

Bang goes the trip to ballybofey, or maybe the current might of cargin could form and amicable amalgamation with the ulster experience of st galls managed by joint MR/CB for the trip to Donegal ?

PS. give the sausage to the dog.


Suppose McGuinness/Paisley have done joined forces for the greater good but CB/MR would be Donald Trump/Kim Jong Un material...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
https://mmj.tees.ac.uk/~project41/2017/04/25/hung-out-to-dry/

seems strange on two fronts, until we get the full story (and not from a brother of a guy who may or may not be on the squad) I wouldnt pass judgement on it.... If the player did something and was caught then deal with it, if its no conclusive and it could be a number of players due to poor image then Croke park needs to be definitive on the rules for this also...

but no lets get the media on it and make Antrim a news story for all the wrong reasons

You doubting me Dazza?

Agree,  yet again Antrim make the headlines for the wrong reasons..

Well with the amount of crap pj/cb you say it's hard to judge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
https://mmj.tees.ac.uk/~project41/2017/04/25/hung-out-to-dry/

seems strange on two fronts, until we get the full story (and not from a brother of a guy who may or may not be on the squad) I wouldnt pass judgement on it.... If the player did something and was caught then deal with it, if its no conclusive and it could be a number of players due to poor image then Croke park needs to be definitive on the rules for this also...

but no lets get the media on it and make Antrim a news story for all the wrong reasons

You doubting me Dazza?

Agree,  yet again Antrim make the headlines for the wrong reasons..

Well with the amount of crap pj/cb you say it's hard to judge

Say what you want, we aren't that far off the mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 09:38:17 PM
We? You're the same person, you talk riddles and none of it positive....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2017, 09:38:17 PM
We? You're the same person, you talk riddles and none of it positive....

Away and have a lay down horse.. holy smokes, imagine thinking I'm from Toome...  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: restorepride on April 26, 2017, 12:00:31 AM
Jaysus, what goes around comes around, Patrick John! I thought you were from Derry! Fair play to your County Board, Division 4 or not, prepared to tell the truth. Up Roddy?! 1905 Tyrone Feis was in Toome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 26, 2017, 01:03:31 AM
Quote from: restorepride on April 26, 2017, 12:00:31 AM
Jaysus, what goes around comes around, Patrick John! I thought you were from Derry! Fair play to your County Board, Division 4 or not, prepared to tell the truth. Up Roddy?! 1905 Tyrone Feis was in Toome.

You'd have to go back a few years to get my Derry blood!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 26, 2017, 08:02:37 AM
And my roots are firmly in Tyrone......another poor call from MR2.....not his first I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on April 26, 2017, 04:33:23 PM
I blame Conor Murray and Joe Brolly over the whole thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Not alot of shocks last night in the leagues. Big scoring game in Milltown, Cargin back to winning ways and Creggan a good win in PG1. Antrim and Ardoyne shipping heavy defeats in Div2, could be a long season for them. St Endas seem to be flying at the top of Div2. Div 3 was predictable with big wins for Glenravel, Sarsfields and St Mals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 27, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
Reading Frankie Quinn's comments in the ATN puts a new slant on the whole player identification row. Suppose there is always two sides to a story - at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 02:22:21 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 27, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
Reading Frankie Quinn's comments in the ATN puts a new slant on the whole player identification row. Suppose there is always two sides to a story - at least.

What did he say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2017, 09:01:35 PM
Waiting on Cb/pj coming back blaming sv again, cause that's exactly what that brother of a person involved with the squad had told him  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
It's all Saffron Visions fault lol.

I saw and heard all the angles in this story and knew there would be no winners in this, just losers. Once again the Irish News jumped for the big hit on Antrim with a splash across the back pages. Yet another cheap shot.

Frankie Quinn couldn't have done much more than he did but there was a serious overreaction by making the players statement public and I'd say the relationship between the board and the football management team is in tatters going forward. Bar a miracle in a month my guess is that we are probably looking for a new set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 28, 2017, 09:52:37 AM
As I hinted a few weeks back, it looks that Kevin Niblock has played his last game for Antrim. What a loss he will be.

I make no apology in saying he has consistently been Antrims best performer for more than a decade. His ball winning ability was unreal and I'd say he would have made any team in the country. No one put himself about more than Kevin in a physical sense, contesting and winning balls he had no right to. Sadly some of the many knocks he received has caught up on him.

Hopefully his injuries heal to the extent that he can still enjoy a few years with St Galls.

Thanks for the hundreds of memories in Saffron Nibs. Antrim Legend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2017, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
It's all Saffron Visions fault lol.

I saw and heard all the angles in this story and knew there would be no winners in this, just losers. Once again the Irish News jumped for the big hit on Antrim with a splash across the back pages. Yet another cheap shot.

Frankie Quinn couldn't have done much more than he did but there was a serious overreaction by making the players statement public and I'd say the relationship between the board and the football management team is in tatters going forward. Bar a miracle in a month my guess is that we are probably looking for a new set up.

So I wasn't making it up?

Agree with you Kevin Niblock post, a legend indeed and a gentleman to boot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
It's all Saffron Visions fault lol.

I saw and heard all the angles in this story and knew there would be no winners in this, just losers. Once again the Irish News jumped for the big hit on Antrim with a splash across the back pages. Yet another cheap shot.

Frankie Quinn couldn't have done much more than he did but there was a serious overreaction by making the players statement public and I'd say the relationship between the board and the football management team is in tatters going forward. Bar a miracle in a month my guess is that we are probably looking for a new set up.
Think if indeed you have heard the whole story BS perhaps the source was a tad biased.
New management you think.............the list of applicants is certain to be a long one indeed, but will the new regime be informed that his charges are not to eat red meat on away trips and be easy on the shower caps.
You do know what I mean....... ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2017, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
It's all Saffron Visions fault lol.

I saw and heard all the angles in this story and knew there would be no winners in this, just losers. Once again the Irish News jumped for the big hit on Antrim with a splash across the back pages. Yet another cheap shot.

Frankie Quinn couldn't have done much more than he did but there was a serious overreaction by making the players statement public and I'd say the relationship between the board and the football management team is in tatters going forward. Bar a miracle in a month my guess is that we are probably looking for a new set up.

So I wasn't making it up?

Agree with you Kevin Niblock post, a legend indeed and a gentleman to boot.

No just your mates brother who knew someone on the panel made it up and you posted it here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2017, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
It's all Saffron Visions fault lol.

I saw and heard all the angles in this story and knew there would be no winners in this, just losers. Once again the Irish News jumped for the big hit on Antrim with a splash across the back pages. Yet another cheap shot.

Frankie Quinn couldn't have done much more than he did but there was a serious overreaction by making the players statement public and I'd say the relationship between the board and the football management team is in tatters going forward. Bar a miracle in a month my guess is that we are probably looking for a new set up.

Would you let your name go forward BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fuzzman on April 28, 2017, 03:31:54 PM
Lads, I've been asking in a few county club threads how bad is the problem with matches being very defensive in your county?
Do most teams play with 2 or more sweepers or is it relatively entertaining and attack minded?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2017, 03:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 28, 2017, 03:31:54 PM
Lads, I've been asking in a few county club threads how bad is the problem with matches being very defensive in your county?
Do most teams play with 2 or more sweepers or is it relatively entertaining and attack minded?

I'd say during the league there is a openess to most games, come championship though and that changes completely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 29, 2017, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

Haha he will be reminded about this at every opportunity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

What's your problem Darren?  I've not actually spoke to him this week but I'm sure I will be. I'll tell him you were asking for him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

What's your problem Darren?  I've not actually spoke to him this week but I'm sure I will be. I'll tell him you were asking for him.

Are you annoyed so use my name? Are you aware of the rules?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

What's your problem Darren?  I've not actually spoke to him this week but I'm sure I will be. I'll tell him you were asking for him.

Are you annoyed so use my name? Are you aware of the rules?

Will you give me a black card? Or maybe a red card?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

What's your problem Darren?  I've not actually spoke to him this week but I'm sure I will be. I'll tell him you were asking for him.

Are you annoyed so use my name? Are you aware of the rules?

Will you give me a black card? Or maybe a red card?

Dunces hat !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

What's your problem Darren?  I've not actually spoke to him this week but I'm sure I will be. I'll tell him you were asking for him.

Are you annoyed so use my name? Are you aware of the rules?

Will you give me a black card? Or maybe a red card?

Dunces hat !

Make sure it's saffron n white and I'll be grand mate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
Anybody at the Ballymac Thursday evening......heard it was quite a feisty little gathering.....?

I'm sure Pj mates brother half related to the panel member from the 80's will know

What's your problem Darren?  I've not actually spoke to him this week but I'm sure I will be. I'll tell him you were asking for him.

Are you annoyed so use my name? Are you aware of the rules?

Will you give me a black card? Or maybe a red card?

Dunces hat !

Make sure it's saffron n white and I'll be grand mate.

Well you're never at the games so you wouldn't have any need for those colours
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
Do u reside near MR2 PJ........sure it is difficult to get to Corrigan from that locale......and if he does manage a visit he cannot wat to get home.....leaves early.....and don't mention trips down the country, now that would be impossible ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 01, 2017, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
Do u reside near MR2 PJ........sure it is difficult to get to Corrigan from that locale......and if he does manage a visit he cannot wat to get home.....leaves early.....and don't mention trips down the country, now that would be impossible ;)

I don't live anywhere near the said gentleman.. I can't stand people who leave games early no matter if they are winning or losing. Surely the traffic isn't an issue between Corrigan and Milltown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2017, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 01, 2017, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 29, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
Do u reside near MR2 PJ........sure it is difficult to get to Corrigan from that locale......and if he does manage a visit he cannot wat to get home.....leaves early.....and don't mention trips down the country, now that would be impossible ;)

I don't live anywhere near the said gentleman.. I can't stand people who leave games early no matter if they are winning or losing. Surely the traffic isn't an issue between Corrigan and Milltown.

I don't live anywhere near corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 03, 2017, 12:19:09 AM
Enough of this sho1te
mr, pj and cb - when you guys want to go off on one, start your own thread for it, and spare the rest of us this juvenile nonsense
8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
Kevin Carey has passed away  :(

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2017, 09:17:09 AM
Kevin Carey has passed away  :(

RIP

Ah that is rotten, they raised so much money for that lad, he fought a good fight, rest in peace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2017, 09:55:53 AM
Puts everything into perspective, gutting for his friends and family.

RIP Kevin, many a battle we shared.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 03, 2017, 10:02:58 AM
RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 03, 2017, 10:12:26 AM
RIP such sad news especially after it looked like he was winning his fight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 03, 2017, 10:23:49 AM
Very sad
Massive loss, not only to Kevin's wife and immediate family, but to the Casements GAA Club aswell.
Like any GAA club in the country they are all close knit, but I experienced Casements first hand myself and I realise how hard it will be for them in the days and weeks ahead

RIP Kevin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2017, 12:07:11 PM
As club PRO it's with regret I confirm the passing of Kevin during the night. The club will rally round the Carey family as a mark of the exceptionally high esteem in which they are held in the parish. Needless to say our match tonight against St Teresas is postponed.

Thanks to all for the kind words of sympathy. Funeral arrangements to follow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 03, 2017, 01:12:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2017, 12:07:11 PM
As club PRO it's with regret I confirm the passing of Kevin during the night. The club will rally round the Carey family as a mark of the exceptionally high esteem in which they are held in the parish. Needless to say our match tonight against St Teresas is postponed.

Thanks to all for the kind words of sympathy. Funeral arrangements to follow.
Kevin was indeed a true gentleman BS and his passing is huge loss for his extended family and his club.

May his good soul rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2017, 12:07:11 PM
As club PRO it's with regret I confirm the passing of Kevin during the night. The club will rally round the Carey family as a mark of the exceptionally high esteem in which they are held in the parish. Needless to say our match tonight against St Teresas is postponed.

Thanks to all for the kind words of sympathy. Funeral arrangements to follow.

very sad news indeed. Our thoughts are with his family and everyone in the club at this time.

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 03, 2017, 03:53:45 PM
Terrible news

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 08, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
Aghagallon and Dunloy game was hard to watch last night. Both teams well under strength. We were without 8/9 first team men and Dunloy had a load of young boys missing. I couldn't understand the Dunloy's tactics. Getting beat by 7/8 points after about 20mins and still playing 13 men behind the ball. Football is hard to watch at times these days. The second game was much better with Cargin and Creggan fielding strong enough teams and playing some decent football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
we were missing 14 players from yesterdays game. Some played a full 60mins against Loughgiel in the hurling the day before, 7 are playing in the U21 hurling semi final tonight against St Johns so werent allowed to play and others unavailable. The fact we fielded was lucky as the 2 subs havent kicked a ball in the past 2 years.

Its a pity as at full strength we would of made it a far better game. Nigel Elliott played that hurling match in midfield agianst Lgiel and then that full game yday. Not great preparation but thats the joy of being a dual club i suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 08, 2017, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
we were missing 14 players from yesterdays game. Some played a full 60mins against Loughgiel in the hurling the day before, 7 are playing in the U21 hurling semi final tonight against St Johns so werent allowed to play and others unavailable. The fact we fielded was lucky as the 2 subs havent kicked a ball in the past 2 years.

Its a pity as at full strength we would of made it a far better game. Nigel Elliott played that hurling match in midfield agianst Lgiel and then that full game yday. Not great preparation but thats the joy of being a dual club i suppose.

Strange tactics nonetheless. Not having a go at Dunloy in but more so football in general. See it so often these days. IMO teams should always have a go. Disappointing for people who pay in to watch these matches never mind the players themselves. I understand that if your winning it makes sense to defend in large numbers but to play 13 men in defence for 60 mins makes it hard to watch 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 08, 2017, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
we were missing 14 players from yesterdays game. Some played a full 60mins against Loughgiel in the hurling the day before, 7 are playing in the U21 hurling semi final tonight against St Johns so werent allowed to play and others unavailable. The fact we fielded was lucky as the 2 subs havent kicked a ball in the past 2 years.

Its a pity as at full strength we would of made it a far better game. Nigel Elliott played that hurling match in midfield agianst Lgiel and then that full game yday. Not great preparation but thats the joy of being a dual club i suppose.

Strange tactics nonetheless. Not having a go at Dunloy in but more so football in general. See it so often these days. IMO teams should always have a go. Disappointing for people who pay in to watch these matches never mind the players themselves. I understand that if your winning it makes sense to defend in large numbers but to play 13 men in defence for 60 mins makes it hard to watch


Teams in Div 3 in Antrim are playing with 13/14 behind the ball, shocking to watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 08, 2017, 12:23:29 PM
Cargin looked good in their win over Creggan despite being well past it according to a well known manager that is....'team of old men' he says.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 08, 2017, 12:27:41 PM
Most teams would struggle with having half a dozen players missing let alone what Dunloy had to contend with.  As DR says joys of being a dual club mean that sometimes there is just no other course of action than to sit down and prioritise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 08, 2017, 12:31:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 08, 2017, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
we were missing 14 players from yesterdays game. Some played a full 60mins against Loughgiel in the hurling the day before, 7 are playing in the U21 hurling semi final tonight against St Johns so werent allowed to play and others unavailable. The fact we fielded was lucky as the 2 subs havent kicked a ball in the past 2 years.

Its a pity as at full strength we would of made it a far better game. Nigel Elliott played that hurling match in midfield agianst Lgiel and then that full game yday. Not great preparation but thats the joy of being a dual club i suppose.

Strange tactics nonetheless. Not having a go at Dunloy in but more so football in general. See it so often these days. IMO teams should always have a go. Disappointing for people who pay in to watch these matches never mind the players themselves. I understand that if your winning it makes sense to defend in large numbers but to play 13 men in defence for 60 mins makes it hard to watch


Teams in Div 3 in Antrim are playing with 13/14 behind the ball, shocking to watch.

Problem of having a league where the top teams are miles ahead of the rest - in that case though you would think teams should just have a go anyway if they are already resigned to losing should maybe go out and try to play a bit of football - might be the only way they sharpen up their game a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 01:04:44 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 08, 2017, 12:31:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 08, 2017, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
we were missing 14 players from yesterdays game. Some played a full 60mins against Loughgiel in the hurling the day before, 7 are playing in the U21 hurling semi final tonight against St Johns so werent allowed to play and others unavailable. The fact we fielded was lucky as the 2 subs havent kicked a ball in the past 2 years.

Its a pity as at full strength we would of made it a far better game. Nigel Elliott played that hurling match in midfield agianst Lgiel and then that full game yday. Not great preparation but thats the joy of being a dual club i suppose.

Strange tactics nonetheless. Not having a go at Dunloy in but more so football in general. See it so often these days. IMO teams should always have a go. Disappointing for people who pay in to watch these matches never mind the players themselves. I understand that if your winning it makes sense to defend in large numbers but to play 13 men in defence for 60 mins makes it hard to watch


Teams in Div 3 in Antrim are playing with 13/14 behind the ball, shocking to watch.

Problem of having a league where the top teams are miles ahead of the rest - in that case though you would think teams should just have a go anyway if they are already resigned to losing should maybe go out and try to play a bit of football - might be the only way they sharpen up their game a bit.

Spot on. Why not have a go instead of being boring to watch and I'd imagine boring to play in that system.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Trap on May 08, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
Sarsfields 15-22 Mitchels 0-0....that's just not right....... :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2017, 01:40:29 PM
Plenty armchair managers about today it seems. Make good barflys no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: The Trap on May 08, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
Sarsfields 15-22 Mitchels 0-0....that's just not right....... :-[

Who learns anything from that kinda game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 08, 2017, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: The Trap on May 08, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
Sarsfields 15-22 Mitchels 0-0....that's just not right....... :-[

Who learns anything from that kinda game?

Goalkeeper gets kick out practice ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on May 08, 2017, 01:56:27 PM
Tough one that for Dunloy, SW Football game thrown in the weekend of county hurling fixture is hard to work with.

They have had 2 great wins in the O'Cahan cup and to end up under strength at this stage is disappointing.

Great work going on there as dual clubs do have a lot to manage over a season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: stiffler on May 08, 2017, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: The Trap on May 08, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
Sarsfields 15-22 Mitchels 0-0....that's just not right....... :-[

Who learns anything from that kinda game?

Goalkeeper gets kick out practice ?

True..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2017, 02:46:36 PM
as ML says it was poor to watch. even when we had the ball they were too slow at trying to support the front men and were content to keep the score down. Only grace was that Aghagallon shot show some shocking poor wides for the hour. Mind you we were no better.

It wasnt great for anyone who paid in to watch that, like me lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 10, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
Watched one of our lads register 2-13 in a minor league game at Shaws rd last nite......one for the future ☺
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2017, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 10, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
Watched one of our lads register 2-13 in a minor league game at Shaws rd last nite......one for the future ☺

I would be happier with 3/4 lads sharing that total for the sake of the club.

But maybe you are thinking less selfishly and the bigger pciture CB  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 09:52:32 AM
All any established team needs is to bring a few guys on each year - yes a fantastic batch coming through would always be welcomed but if you can supplement a winning squad with 3 or 4 boys every year you will alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 11, 2017, 11:38:33 AM
Creggan and St John's kicking on rightly, both unbeaten in division one. Good old battle taking place for top four positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 11, 2017, 11:38:33 AM
Creggan and St John's kicking on rightly, both unbeaten in division one. Good old battle taking place for top four positions.

Creggan and St Johns would be two clubs that have had particularly strong batches at underage in recent years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 11, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
Cargin came from well off the pace....11 points behind to gain the verdict at Milltown.....but who wants to win the league :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 11, 2017, 04:35:02 PM
Cargin dispatched a strong looking Creggan team on Sunday night with a bit to spare, so to go 11 points down to St Galls would suggest the Gallsmen are in good shape too.

Winning the league mightnt be a massive prize anymore to either of the two teams above...but for all the rest it can be used as a fairly accurate barometer of where they stand in the pecking order.

Probably 7 or 8 teams thinking they are top 4 material right now, so will be interesting to see the final placings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)

Perhaps he is refereeing, helping the county, helping the club in other ways ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2017, 05:26:11 PM
CB's not a bad whistle blower himself lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 10:58:59 PM
Jeez...uncalled for BS......and indeed if I was to blow the whistle more than a few red cards would be issued.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)




Perhaps he is refereeing, helping the county, helping the club in other ways ;)
Indeed he was spotted on the Boucher road.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)




Perhaps he is refereeing, helping the county, helping the club in other ways ;)
Indeed he was spotted on the Boucher road.......

There ya go, internet up and running in Toome now, simple search and Bobs your uncle!

On our game v Cargin the lads are happy enough with their game albeit letting an 11 point advantage slip through their fingers...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)




Perhaps he is refereeing, helping the county, helping the club in other ways ;)
Indeed he was spotted on the Boucher road.......

There ya go, internet up and running in Toome now, simple search and Bobs your uncle!

On our game v Cargin the lads are happy enough with their game albeit letting an 11 point advantage slip through their fingers...

Happy indeed.....Cargin haven't won at Milltown in the league for a while.......but had a few new faces included and pleased.......surprised Gall's let a ten point advantage drift away and in fact only scored 1-01 in nearly 50 minutes.
But hey that is the league and I think Cargin have finally learned the lesson, 'The league is for playing in and ..........you know the rest. :)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)




Perhaps he is refereeing, helping the county, helping the club in other ways ;)
Indeed he was spotted on the Boucher road.......

There ya go, internet up and running in Toome now, simple search and Bobs your uncle!

On our game v Cargin the lads are happy enough with their game albeit letting an 11 point advantage slip through their fingers...

Happy indeed.....Cargin haven't won at Milltown in the league for a while.......but had a few new faces included and pleased.......surprised Gall's let a ten point advantage drift away and in fact only scored 1-01 in nearly 50 minutes.
But hey that is the league and I think Cargin have finally learned the lesson, 'The league is for playing in and ..........you know the rest. :)

Aye we were at full strength and would be happy only getting beat by the bare minimum by the best team in Antrim... if we could improve on that then we might have a chance...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Looked for MR2 at Milltown on Wed nite but failed to locate....perhaps he left early  :)




Perhaps he is refereeing, helping the county, helping the club in other ways ;)
Indeed he was spotted on the Boucher road.......

There ya go, internet up and running in Toome now, simple search and Bobs your uncle!

On our game v Cargin the lads are happy enough with their game albeit letting an 11 point advantage slip through their fingers...

Happy indeed.....Cargin haven't won at Milltown in the league for a while.......but had a few new faces included and pleased.......surprised Gall's let a ten point advantage drift away and in fact only scored 1-01 in nearly 50 minutes.
But hey that is the league and I think Cargin have finally learned the lesson, 'The league is for playing in and ..........you know the rest. :)

Aye we were at full strength and would be happy only getting beat by the bare minimum by the best team in Antrim... if we could improve on that then we might have a chance...
indeed ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......

48 week suspension for Matthew Fitzpatrick from CHC after "new evidence" came to light (according to Hoganstand).  Players drafting a new letter?

Jesus 48 weeks? What the hell did he do to warant that? That include club games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......

48 week suspension for Matthew Fitzpatrick from CHC after "new evidence" came to light (according to Hoganstand).  Players drafting a new letter?

Jesus 48 weeks? What the hell did he do to warant that? That include club games?

Irish News had something about misleading an investigation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......

48 week suspension for Matthew Fitzpatrick from CHC after "new evidence" came to light (according to Hoganstand).  Players drafting a new letter?

Jesus 48 weeks? What the hell did he do to warant that? That include club games?

Irish News had something about misleading an investigation.

So he'd been punished for the incident (got off and then punished again, rightly or wrongly i never seen it) and now Croke Park and punishing him again for misleading their investigation? so punishment for whatever he done and a double whammy of the misleading? that seems a very strong sentence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:58:11 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......

48 week suspension for Matthew Fitzpatrick from CHC after "new evidence" came to light (according to Hoganstand).  Players drafting a new letter?

Jesus 48 weeks? What the hell did he do to warant that? That include club games?

Irish News had something about misleading an investigation.

Is that telling porkies?

Its the Irish News also lol..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......

48 week suspension for Matthew Fitzpatrick from CHC after "new evidence" came to light (according to Hoganstand).  Players drafting a new letter?

Jesus 48 weeks? What the hell did he do to warant that? That include club games?

Irish News had something about misleading an investigation.

So he'd been punished for the incident (got off and then punished again, rightly or wrongly i never seen it) and now Croke Park and punishing him again for misleading their investigation? so punishment for whatever he done and a double whammy of the misleading? that seems a very strong sentence

I'll agree with you this once Mr2 lol

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 16, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
The tyrants of Croke......

48 week suspension for Matthew Fitzpatrick from CHC after "new evidence" came to light (according to Hoganstand).  Players drafting a new letter?

Jesus 48 weeks? What the hell did he do to warant that? That include club games?

Irish News had something about misleading an investigation.

Is that telling porkies?

I'm sure most people that played have been through some sort of Disciplinary procedures and when they sat in front of the panel they have tried to make the incident to be not as bad as it was reported by the referee... misleading but it never resulted in a two year suspension!!

Was up twice before, football games ffs, one i was guilty as sin and i accepted it square on the chin, the other i was the victim of being hit from behind and turned to defend myself with the ref sending both of us off!! the usual, ah they are both fighting so red card them both! tried to explain it and it fell on deaf ears and that was that, no appeal just got on with it...

Any proper detail rather than the Hogan stand rubbish that the Irish news used?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 12:12:10 PM
The 'new evidence' was the video they had all along from which the just used 'clips'.
This verdict, and 48 weeks suspension stinks and seems those well paid 'volunteers' who dwell in the dark corridors of Croke are well miffed at being taught rule by a wee Antrim man and taking their pound of flesh from Matthew Fitz...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 16, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah its hard not to wonder what the outcome would be if it had been Diarmuid Connolly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 16, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah its hard not to wonder what the outcome would be if it had been Diarmuid Connolly.

I think we know what the outcome would of been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 16, 2017, 01:13:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 16, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah its hard not to wonder what the outcome would be if it had been Diarmuid Connolly.

I think we know what the outcome would of been.
A red wrist......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 01:44:45 PM
Again I'd like to get all the detail before making a judgement, 48 weeks is rough on anyone and it may be the case that Croke park have played the man not the ball here...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 16, 2017, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 01:44:45 PM
Again I'd like to get all the detail before making a judgement, 48 weeks is rough on anyone and it may be the case that Croke park have played the man not the ball here...


Quinn also insisted that Fitzpatrick and the Antrim management were advised to accept the original one-match ban which would have ruled the St John's clubman out of the Longford game instead of the Championship clash against Donegal.
.....     "They give you the chance to identify the player. If not, they'll identify them anyway and you'll be 10 times worse. We would then be in line for whatever sanction they deem fit."
----------------------
If he was guilty, he should have taken his oil at the start, they knew the score.
If he's not guilty, argue with facts being careful not to mislead, and if not successful, then take it on the chin.
Would Antrim have 10 matches in 48 weeks ?
Croke may be trying to sort out the appeals system going forward, this is one way of doing it...
It seems now the facts can only come from this video, there'll be a link to it somewhere.
U21's for Sunday then ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 16, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 16, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah its hard not to wonder what the outcome would be if it had been Diarmuid Connolly.

That is exactly the example i used to someone earlier!

Max would have been a short ban for him

No bother handing out lengthy suspensions to the Antrim/Carlow/Leitrim man

No chance would that happen to a kerryman/dub

Disgrace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 16, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 16, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah its hard not to wonder what the outcome would be if it had been Diarmuid Connolly.

That is exactly the example i used to someone earlier!

Max would have been a short ban for him

No bother handing out lengthy suspensions to the Antrim/Carlow/Leitrim man

No chance would that happen to a kerryman/dub

Disgrace

More effort by ones around those type players counties to ensure it doesn't happen?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 16, 2017, 10:51:34 PM
This highlights the stupidity of video evidence. I was at the match and if they got the tape and watched it carefully there would be a dozen sentences handed out. Especially the Armagh player who tried your dislodge Paddy Mc Brides head a minute after the Fitzpatrick incident. Right in front of the beleaguered linesman who Mc Geeney had verbally battered right in front of me all night....resulting in the linesman keeping his flag down.

Either use the video evidence of the game or don't but what's the point in cherry picking individual instances if you are going to ignore even more clear cut infringements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 17, 2017, 01:21:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2017, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 16, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 16, 2017, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah its hard not to wonder what the outcome would be if it had been Diarmuid Connolly.

That is exactly the example i used to someone earlier!

Max would have been a short ban for him

No bother handing out lengthy suspensions to the Antrim/Carlow/Leitrim man

No chance would that happen to a kerryman/dub

Disgrace

More effort by ones around those type players counties to ensure it doesn't happen?

Yes, you're correct...
In those big counties, they would advise the player to take the 1 match ban early on.  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 17, 2017, 11:09:46 AM
I would suggest that none of us who are not directly involved know the full details of what has happened here. One obvious point to my non legal mind is, there seems to have been a drip feed of video evidence brought to bear in this dispute - was it all made available to Antrim and the player? Can the disciplinary committee decide it has been lied to (I think that's how the GAA want us all to read into the legal language), or does that make the very committee a player in the dispute? Should an independent, different committee have been mobilised to make a ruling?

Too many questions, we don't know the truth of the whole case and there may be a way to go yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 17, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
And apparently Joe Brolly is now on the case. Thats a good move for the player.

After all this he better score a few points on Sunday!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/declan-bogue/declan-bogue-why-saffrons-wont-take-a-hit-35722629.html

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 17, 2017, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 17, 2017, 11:43:58 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 17, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
And apparently Joe Brolly is now on the case. Thats a good move for the player.


After all this he better score a few points on Sunday!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/declan-bogue/declan-bogue-why-saffrons-wont-take-a-hit-35722629.html

To my non-legal mind Bogue's version of events doesn't stack up...e.g. if a "grainy still image" was sent to Antrim asking to identify the player and not only did the management and CB think it wasn't Fitzpatrick but they actually thought it was someone else...how did Fitzpatrick's name get in the frame?  Why was Fitzpatrick identified as the player involved when the management and CB either weren't sure who it was or genuinely thought it wasn't Fitzpatrick?

Unless of course the grainy still image is sent to Antrim with the question "Can you confirm this is Matthew Fitzpatrick?"...
A member of the CB forwarded M Fitzpatrick's name verbally and then gave written confirmation of such.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2017, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 17, 2017, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 17, 2017, 11:43:58 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 17, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
And apparently Joe Brolly is now on the case. Thats a good move for the player.


After all this he better score a few points on Sunday!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/declan-bogue/declan-bogue-why-saffrons-wont-take-a-hit-35722629.html

To my non-legal mind Bogue's version of events doesn't stack up...e.g. if a "grainy still image" was sent to Antrim asking to identify the player and not only did the management and CB think it wasn't Fitzpatrick but they actually thought it was someone else...how did Fitzpatrick's name get in the frame?  Why was Fitzpatrick identified as the player involved when the management and CB either weren't sure who it was or genuinely thought it wasn't Fitzpatrick?

Unless of course the grainy still image is sent to Antrim with the question "Can you confirm this is Matthew Fitzpatrick?"...
A member of the CB forwarded M Fitzpatrick's name verbally and then gave written confirmation of such.

Then based on that information, what is the problem?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 17, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
Probably just that thing that when a McCooey is talking to you, you automatically assume he is trying to hoodwink you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 17, 2017, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 17, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
Probably just that thing that when a McCooey is talking to you, you automatically assume he is trying to hoodwink you.

Out of parting with my scallions might I add.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 17, 2017, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 17, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
Probably just that thing that when a McCooey is talking to you, you automatically assume he is trying to hoodwink you.

best now that they have a good derry man on the job...

why all the claptrap now then; new evidence shows an man attacking Matthew, he defends himself, case over for antrim.

PS Stevie G. only thought the DJ was going to hit him when he acted in self defence...

....Vindicate the saffron 1 now....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 07:24:36 AM
He's free!!!! Matthew is free!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 18, 2017, 08:09:44 AM
I think you're lying

Expect a 48 week ban   :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 08:37:32 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 18, 2017, 08:09:44 AM
I think you're lying

Expect a 48 week ban   :)

Might get brolly on the case to see if the Club Antrim twitter account will unblock me..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on May 18, 2017, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 17, 2017, 01:43:42 PM
A member of the CB forwarded M Fitzpatrick's name verbally and then gave written confirmation of such.

Employees aren't members of the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 18, 2017, 11:37:05 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 18, 2017, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 17, 2017, 01:43:42 PM
A member of the CB forwarded M Fitzpatrick's name verbally and then gave written confirmation of such.

Employees aren't members of the county board

Employees of Croke Park would that be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 18, 2017, 11:53:41 AM
Ha! Only one man can do that. I must have had good reason to block you :) But in the spirit of Matt Fitzpatrick I'll unblock if you want, although the official county twitter is much more active these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2017, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: bogieman on May 17, 2017, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 17, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
Probably just that thing that when a McCooey is talking to you, you automatically assume he is trying to hoodwink you.

best now that they have a good derry man on the job...

why all the claptrap now then; new evidence shows an man attacking Matthew, he defends himself, case over for antrim.

PS Stevie G. only thought the DJ was going to hit him when he acted in self defence...

....Vindicate the saffron 1 now....

So can we expect a hefty ban for the man attacking matthew as he owned up to feck all during the whole process and Im sure at some stage of the "who done it" he would have been asked to identify the grainy picture and to maybe also cast his mind back to who supposedly thumped him (assuming he got gubbed)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2017, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: bogieman on May 17, 2017, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 17, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
Probably just that thing that when a McCooey is talking to you, you automatically assume he is trying to hoodwink you.

best now that they have a good derry man on the job...

why all the claptrap now then; new evidence shows an man attacking Matthew, he defends himself, case over for antrim.

PS Stevie G. only thought the DJ was going to hit him when he acted in self defence...

....Vindicate the saffron 1 now....

So can we expect a hefty ban for the man attacking matthew as he owned up to feck all during the whole process and Im sure at some stage of the "who done it" he would have been asked to identify the grainy picture and to maybe also cast his mind back to who supposedly thumped him (assuming he got gubbed)

It's over now, i'd say we'd be better to move on.

You & I both know that you don't always get the results that you want at appeals..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 18, 2017, 06:41:41 PM
The Gaa is a hell of an organisation...but occasionally knows how to shoot itself in the foot in spectacular style. I might be well off the mark here because as Brendan said there are parts of this jigsaw we won't fully know....but at first glance it appears that the minute Joe Brolly decided to take up Matt Fitz's cause, the high brass in HQ didn't fancy themselves as much and threw in the towel. Joe would have had some field day at their expense...and still might in spite of their spectacular U turn.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 18, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
If the clip posted by @indosport is what caused this whole fuss....well what a joke. I swear it's nothing more than u see at any game at any level. A disgraceful waste of everyone's time and effort. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 18, 2017, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 18, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
If the clip posted by @indosport is what caused this whole fuss....well what a joke. I swear it's nothing more than u see at any game at any level. A disgraceful waste of everyone's time and effort.

FFS sake gotta agree BB......saw the Indo clip as well....and those 'unpaid volunteers' in Croke whe decided on  penalty for that please take a bow.
Seen far worse in an under-8 game and in the words of J Brolly the whole thing was complete bollox.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on May 19, 2017, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 18, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
If the clip posted by @indosport is what caused this whole fuss....well what a joke. I swear it's nothing more than u see at any game at any level. A disgraceful waste of everyone's time and effort.
Then why not just take the one match ban instead of lying?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2017, 07:29:04 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 19, 2017, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 18, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
If the clip posted by @indosport is what caused this whole fuss....well what a joke. I swear it's nothing more than u see at any game at any level. A disgraceful waste of everyone's time and effort.
Then why not just take the one match ban instead of lying?

Nope we wanted to make a drama out of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on May 19, 2017, 08:40:31 AM
Brollys take on it, a couple of minutes in.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/Newsround_on_Off_The_Ball/192496/Diving_punishment_and_Joe_Brolly_on_Antrim_vs._the_CCCC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 19, 2017, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 18, 2017, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 18, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
If the clip posted by @indosport is what caused this whole fuss....well what a joke. I swear it's nothing more than u see at any game at any level. A disgraceful waste of everyone's time and effort.

FFS sake gotta agree BB......saw the Indo clip as well....and those 'unpaid volunteers' in Croke whe decided on  penalty for that please take a bow.
Seen far worse in an under-8 game and in the words of J Brolly the whole thing was complete bollox.

Great news that Matt Fitzpatrick is cleared to play as we will need all our best available out to challenge Donegal, however I would disagree with your summaries of the clip he strikes out at the Armagh player, the amount of contact is irrelevant as the rule states striking or attempting to strike, for which he was handed a 1 match ban the penalty that was retrospectively handed down as you well know was not for the original incident.

However the important thing is the player is now available and Antrim go in as strong as they possible can. Will be a tough day at the office and a chance for a few of the younger lads to put their hand up for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on May 19, 2017, 01:52:42 PM
And this is what  the antrim footballers got in a hissy fit over and wrote a collective letter slating the county board over? I suppose things worked out for the best as he's available to face Donegal, but by god he should be embarrassed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 20, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 19, 2017, 01:52:42 PM
And this is what  the antrim footballers got in a hissy fit over and wrote a collective letter slating the county board over? I suppose things worked out for the best as he's available to face Donegal, but by god he should be embarrassed
Approaching beatification General Lee or a saint already..........?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on May 20, 2017, 12:14:20 PM
Far from it but I'll not piss on your shoes and tell you it's raining
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 20, 2017, 03:07:20 PM
Who should be embarrassed. The player? If so explain why exactly!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 21, 2017, 12:55:59 AM
Liam Keane of the CHC spelled it all out quite clearly on Off The Ball today despite Ger Gilroy messing around and going all over the place in the conversation.

Few lads on here should actually familiarise themselves with the facts of the matter before spouting off.

He's got off, everyone will take it, but Christ he, the country board and the panel should be embarrassed at how they've got on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2017, 09:58:15 AM
I'm always bemused how this site and thread can ignore the fact that our footballers are actually playing Championship today. No discussion of their chances? The team, line out, likely tactics etc. Plus the prospects of the minors - I hope they perform well too, the game v Donegal in Corrigan last year was there for the taking with some of the same squad.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 21, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2017, 09:58:15 AM
I'm always bemused how this site and thread can ignore the fact that our footballers are actually playing Championship today. No discussion of their chances? The team, line out, likely tactics etc. Plus the prospects of the minors - I hope they perform well too, the game v Donegal in Corrigan last year was there for the taking with some of the same squad.

I think the whole build has been consumed by one thing this week and that is the appeal. What do we expect today? A tanking and back up the road preparing for a qualifier with no chance? Or a decent performance and we go into the back door with hope? Or a win???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2017, 12:00:07 PM
Have to admit I'm worried it will be a 'everyone behind the ball and clog things up' type of effort, which will lead to a low scoring 5 or 6 point defeat. Would dearly love to be wrong but not hopeful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Hoping we'll play with a bit of balls and have a go at them.

Thinking we'll just sit back and play damage limitation, with the game passing most of our players by and a 10+ point defeat to go along with it.

So begs the question, why not have a fecking go at it?? At this point they've nothing to lose!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 21, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Hoping we'll play with a bit of balls and have a go at them.

Thinking we'll just sit back and play damage limitation, with the game passing most of our players by and a 10+ point defeat to go along with it.

Totally agree. But weve done that the last few years and got f all out of it. Have a go!

Anyone know the starting minor team and their clubs?

All the shite interviews are cringe....we are massive underdogs...a win would be the biggest shock in Ulster in my memory
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
Agree - have a go at them can't see it happening. The minor team is on the county twitter feed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 21, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Hoping we'll play with a bit of balls and have a go at them.

Thinking we'll just sit back and play damage limitation, with the game passing most of our players by and a 10+ point defeat to go along with it.

So begs the question, why not have a fecking go at it?? At this point they've nothing to lose!

Likely the wisest thing you have ever posted on here chief.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 21, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Hoping we'll play with a bit of balls and have a go at them.

Thinking we'll just sit back and play damage limitation, with the game passing most of our players by and a 10+ point defeat to go along with it.

So begs the question, why not have a fecking go at it?? At this point they've nothing to lose!

Likely the wisest thing you have ever posted on here chief.

You getting a signal from Donegal? Keep us updated...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2017, 02:35:49 PM
Supposedly a freak goal for donegal too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 21, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 21, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Hoping we'll play with a bit of balls and have a go at them.

Thinking we'll just sit back and play damage limitation, with the game passing most of our players by and a 10+ point defeat to go along with it.

So begs the question, why not have a fecking go at it?? At this point they've nothing to lose!

Likely the wisest thing you have ever posted on here chief.

You getting a signal from Donegal? Keep us updated...

No Donegal for me mate, on club duty today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2017, 04:01:25 PM
Yesss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2017, 04:02:21 PM
That's class. Beating Donegal in Ballybofey - fantastic from the minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Just back from Ballybofey and although hugely disappointed at senior demise really enjoyed the minor game and a tremendous Saffron victory.
The young lads showed skill aplenty with guts and character underling a super win.
However hear minor management were forced to dig into their own pockets to supplement payment for the squad's post game meal.
ffs....only in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Just back from Ballybofey and although hugely disappointed at senior demise really enjoyed the minor game and a tremendous Saffron victory.
The young lads showed skill aplenty with guts and character underling a super win.
However hear minor management were forced to dig into their own pockets to supplement payment for the squad's post game meal.
ffs....only in Antrim.

You hear a lot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 21, 2017, 09:44:55 PM
Fantastic display from our minors. Sincere congrats to all involved.  Plenty of talent, a coach who knows what he's doing, and in manager Hugh Mc Gettigan a very experienced safe pair of hands who the players respect. Great to see their hard work paying off.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Just back from Ballybofey and although hugely disappointed at senior demise really enjoyed the minor game and a tremendous Saffron victory.
The young lads showed skill aplenty with guts and character underling a super win.
However hear minor management were forced to dig into their own pockets to supplement payment for the squad's post game meal.
ffs....only in Antrim.

You hear a lot
Yep I do and perhaps if u had been bothered to travel u may well have heard as well.
But hey make enquiries of ur club mate who was a part of the team or maybe ask management.....or if all that fails ask ur mate .....the former ref.....or the little message boy....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Just back from Ballybofey and although hugely disappointed at senior demise really enjoyed the minor game and a tremendous Saffron victory.
The young lads showed skill aplenty with guts and character underling a super win.
However hear minor management were forced to dig into their own pockets to supplement payment for the squad's post game meal.
ffs....only in Antrim.

You hear a lot
Yep I do and perhaps if u had been bothered to travel u may well have heard as well.
But hey make enquiries of ur club mate who was a part of the team or maybe ask management.....or if all that fails ask ur mate .....the former ref.....or the little message boy....

Sure why not get it on the back of the Irish news.. I was bothered helping the county out in other ways... not coming on a public forum and lambasting them at every opportunity seems to be your form
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2017, 10:19:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
Milltown has a point. Our minors have given us something to be proud of today.
Let's embrace that without letting some sideshow (which will no doubt get sorted) take away from it.

This ☝️ 100%. FFS....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 22, 2017, 01:09:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2017, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 21, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Just back from Ballybofey and although hugely disappointed at senior demise really enjoyed the minor game and a tremendous Saffron victory.
The young lads showed skill aplenty with guts and character underling a super win.
However hear minor management were forced to dig into their own pockets to supplement payment for the squad's post game meal.
ffs....only in Antrim.

You hear a lot
Yep I do and perhaps if u had been bothered to travel u may well have heard as well.
But hey make enquiries of ur club mate who was a part of the team or maybe ask management.....or if all that fails ask ur mate .....the former ref.....or the little message boy....

Sure why not get it on the back of the Irish news.. I was B bothered helping the county out in other ways... not coming on a public forum and lambasting them at every opportunity seems to be your form


Separate thread lads, please 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on May 22, 2017, 09:15:36 AM
Fantastic display by our minor footballers. The work rate of the two midfielders had to be seen to be believed and over all the team has an excellent balance. Quinn was unmarkable in the first half and when Donegal got to grips with him after the break Tiernan McAteer and Ronan Kelly took up the challenge. Very well managed from the sideline, made changes when needed and had no fear of using the bench. A huge positive on a day that went down hill very quickly after the minor game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 22, 2017, 09:20:05 AM
Relegation to Div 4, no stadium, the worst championship 2nd half in living memory.......but hey the minors won so we should all be positive and ask no questions about what went wrong or is continuing to go wrong with Antrim Seniors. That was a shameful result

ps the minor win was thoroughly well deserved and a fantastic performance from all involved - players & management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 22, 2017, 09:38:25 AM
Yeah seems like the senior game didn't happen  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
Sadly not surprised at yesterdays outcome.  While relegated from Div 3 we held our own in nearly every game and I had hoped that maybe we would be able to dig deep yesterday but at the same time I feared that the sight of the Donegal jersey would ensure that we went into our shells and so it proved.  We seem to still be at the stage where our county champions are poorly represented on our senior county team.  This was the case for years with St Galls and now Cargin are equally under represented.  While most of us did not expect a win we would maybe have been entitled to think that we would at least go out and ruffle a few feathers a maybe surprise a few in terms of getting close but hey ho.

Great work by the minors, lets keep it going in the next round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Jesus lads, Div 1 team beats a now div 4 team... What were you expecting? Had they taken their goal chance early on and continued with their pressure they applied for most of the first half then we might have had a better impact... Until Antrim become a div 1/2 team then we can expect a beating like that, just like Monaghan beat Fermanagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on May 22, 2017, 11:26:39 AM
Tyrone man who went up to the game today, lets be honest when is the last time anyone has beat Donegal on that ground! Hate that pitch altogether so wouldn't be overly worried.

See people above complaining about on going problems but that minor team is some outfit. Seen them play tyrone in the minors earlier in the year and they looked really good. Surely this is a chance to build for future of antrim football now, get in behind them, get supporters on board, get the money men on board and get the county sorted. Do your utmost to keep these boys at home and build from there.

Ulster needs a strong antrim! could we see a Brolly Jr v Canavan Jr down the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on May 22, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
Sadly not surprised at yesterdays outcome.  While relegated from Div 3 we held our own in nearly every game and I had hoped that maybe we would be able to dig deep yesterday but at the same time I feared that the sight of the Donegal jersey would ensure that we went into our shells and so it proved.  .  While most of us did not expect a win we would maybe have been entitled to think that we would at least We seem to still be at the stage where our county champions are poorly represented on our senior county team.  This was the case for years with St Galls and now Cargin are equally under representedgo out and ruffle a few feathers a maybe surprise a few in terms of getting close but hey ho.

Great work by the minors, lets keep it going in the next round.

We as a county seem to be obsessed about the number of representatives from the county champions. It doesn't matter. Look at other counties, Burren  in the 80's and 90's had 2 on the Down team, Lavey in the 80's and 90's had 2/3 on the team and 2 more subs, Kerry, 2/3 from the champions, Dublin, a couple, Donegal, a couple???

What's important is that we are getting the best talent from throughout the county on the team. So e have 2 from Cargin, and possibly should have another 2/3 on the panel, St Galls have 3, Creggan 2, LD 2 etc.  Are we now seeing the benefit of development squads and talent now being identified through out the county.

So instead of talking about the number of club representatives, should we not be talking about who are the best players within the county at various positions. Then lets be honest with ourselves and ask the million dollar question; "is the talent in Antrim of Div 1,2,3 or 4 standard?"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2017, 01:26:10 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on May 22, 2017, 11:26:39 AM
Tyrone man who went up to the game today, lets be honest when is the last time anyone has beat Donegal on that ground! Hate that pitch altogether so wouldn't be overly worried.

See people above complaining about on going problems but that minor team is some outfit. Seen them play tyrone in the minors earlier in the year and they looked really good. Surely this is a chance to build for future of antrim football now, get in behind them, get supporters on board, get the money men on board and get the county sorted. Do your utmost to keep these boys at home and build from there.

Ulster needs a strong antrim! could we see a Brolly Jr v Canavan Jr down the line
Antrim went to Ballybofey in 2009 under the Baker to defeat Donegal, and went on to brush aside Cavan in the semi final to make an Ulster decider RHD before losing out to the Red Hands but not without giving them a run for their money in the final.
The Baker Boys did come up against Kerry in the 'qualifiers' and certainly lost nothing in defeat ensuring the Kingdom had to come from off the pace to gain a narrow verdict.....2-12 to 1-10.
Tomas Mc Cann was the sole survivor from that side but in fact most of that team, are still going strong in Antrim leagues and from my observations more than a few would still make the start list.
Baker has gone and we are back in the basement struggling to erase the 'easy touch' tag...........support is poor in the extreme with a couple of hundred in attendance the norm in league games in 2017, despite being held in West Belfast.
You were in Ballybofey yesterday ......then consider the huge cheer which greeted the arrival of the Donegal minors into the arena on Sunday and make comparison to the silence as the young Saffron's arrived.
Indeed when the youngsters trooped around the ground to their respective seats to view the senior affair the vanquished again were treated to loud applause whilst the valiant Antrim side receive little in the way of acclaim.

We do have a smashing minor team to build on but the facts are that few in our county are quite unaware of their talents because the simple fact is they have never seen them play.

Hope does spring but do not hold ur breath.........

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on May 22, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
Sadly not surprised at yesterdays outcome.  While relegated from Div 3 we held our own in nearly every game and I had hoped that maybe we would be able to dig deep yesterday but at the same time I feared that the sight of the Donegal jersey would ensure that we went into our shells and so it proved.  .  While most of us did not expect a win we would maybe have been entitled to think that we would at least We seem to still be at the stage where our county champions are poorly represented on our senior county team.  This was the case for years with St Galls and now Cargin are equally under representedgo out and ruffle a few feathers a maybe surprise a few in terms of getting close but hey ho.

Great work by the minors, lets keep it going in the next round.

We as a county seem to be obsessed about the number of representatives from the county champions. It doesn't matter. Look at other counties, Burren  in the 80's and 90's had 2 on the Down team, Lavey in the 80's and 90's had 2/3 on the team and 2 more subs, Kerry, 2/3 from the champions, Dublin, a couple, Donegal, a couple???

What's important is that we are getting the best talent from throughout the county on the team. So e have 2 from Cargin, and possibly should have another 2/3 on the panel, St Galls have 3, Creggan 2, LD 2 etc.  Are we now seeing the benefit of development squads and talent now being identified through out the county.

So instead of talking about the number of club representatives, should we not be talking about who are the best players within the county at various positions. Then lets be honest with ourselves and ask the million dollar question; "is the talent in Antrim of Div 1,2,3 or 4 standard?"

When we have started the last 15-20 club Championships with St Galls and Cargin a distance out in front of the rest in the betting it would suggest that Antrim has two teams that are way stronger than the rest including know how of how to win Championship games.  Most years you look for the draw to see if St Galls and Cargin will meet before the final - this is the reality.  I am not saying this is the only reason but at the same time it would be nice to have our top championship performers in the trenches for these games.  Its not as if it is a new problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 22, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Jesus lads, Div 1 team beats a now div 4 team... What were you expecting? Had they taken their goal chance early on and continued with their pressure they applied for most of the first half then we might have had a better impact... Until Antrim become a div 1/2 team then we can expect a beating like that, just like Monaghan beat Fermanagh


Ostrich with its head in the sand mentality. Defending the indefensible. If, buts, maybes and hard luck stories. I heard enough of them when people were on here earlier in the year saying we were unlucky to go down! And now we're going to sit for the next 10 years making excuses and hoping this good minor team will be our saviours??

I wasn't expecting a win but I certainly wasn't expecting a complete and utter disgrace of a performance. The management should walk immediately after a result like that - Overreaction? No.  A six point defeat would be poor but could be explained, 10 points embarrassing, 16 points (with the aid of a last minute goal) is a complete disgrace. A club side would have done better.     Lest we forget we are now in the 3rd year of this project and getting worse.

Even if we are at the bottom of Div 4 we should never expect an Ulster Championship defeat like that. Surely someone watched Donegal play, knew the players, came up with a system - even a damage limitation exercise. 

Of course there will be 'don't knock them, get behind them' posts, but the giddy highs of 2009 seem a long long time ago and the last few campaigns with Dawson and Fitzy have been moral sapping.   Is it any wonder the crowds stay away when the standard of play is of such a lamentable standard, we've been relegated and we've no stadium.   

CB made a good point that there are aging footballers playing club football that could still do a job - probably true as the current crop aren't up to it. filling the team full of the county champions isn't the answer but the dearth of talent based on yesterdays team sheet is worrying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2017, 03:19:27 PM
its about time football started going the way of hurling and started looking outside of the top teams for players who could do a job for the county.

you have lads from Armoy, St Pauls, Sarsfields all playing county hurling and will be in 1B next year amongst lads from the Div1 clubs and they fully merit their places on the team.

We won the minor championship last year and not one single fella was on the county panel. Following year the U21's squad for ulster and not one single fella asked to come along.Are they not good enough? did anyone come along and see them play? or is it a case of 'your not playing Div 1 therefore your not good enough?'

Im pretty sure theres plenty of lads out there playing in Antrim would love the chance to represent their county but have not been asked. Its time the footballers took the same approach as the hurling and realise where its at and try and build itself up against.

The hurlers may not be the best but they have a great team spirit in the panel and are starting to get it right again.

All this nonsense about not enough representation by the county champions etc look at the hurling, 2 starting from Loughgiel, 1 from Dunloy, 4 from Cushendall & 2 from Ballycastle. All the top 4 clubs in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 22, 2017, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 03:19:27 PM
its about time football started going the way of hurling and started looking outside of the top teams for players who could do a job for the county.

you have lads from Armoy, St Pauls, Sarsfields all playing county hurling and will be in 1B next year amongst lads from the Div1 clubs and they fully merit their places on the team.

We won the minor championship last year and not one single fella was on the county panel. Following year the U21's squad for ulster and not one single fella asked to come along.Are they not good enough? did anyone come along and see them play? or is it a case of 'your not playing Div 1 therefore your not good enough?'

Im pretty sure theres plenty of lads out there playing in Antrim would love the chance to represent their county but have not been asked. Its time the footballers took the same approach as the hurling and realise where its at and try and build itself up against.

The hurlers may not be the best but they have a great team spirit in the panel and are starting to get it right again.

All this nonsense about not enough representation by the county champions etc look at the hurling, 2 starting from Loughgiel, 1 from Dunloy, 4 from Cushendall & 2 from Ballycastle. All the top 4 clubs in Antrim.

Look at the team yesterday - plenty from outside the top teams - still abject. Whats next, give wholesale Div 3 & 4 players or the Waterboy a game? 

At this juncture picking solely from the top teams isn't really the long term answer but it certainly creates a base level of performance that the team wont drop under and we can then improve from that level with players of the lower teams coming in if they are good enough.  For the avoidance of doubt we are currently well below that base level.

Harsh? Anyone who watched that game yesterday wouldn't say so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 03:19:27 PM
its about time football started going the way of hurling and started looking outside of the top teams for players who could do a job for the county.

you have lads from Armoy, St Pauls, Sarsfields all playing county hurling and will be in 1B next year amongst lads from the Div1 clubs and they fully merit their places on the team.

We won the minor championship last year and not one single fella was on the county panel. Following year the U21's squad for ulster and not one single fella asked to come along.Are they not good enough? did anyone come along and see them play? or is it a case of 'your not playing Div 1 therefore your not good enough?'

Im pretty sure theres plenty of lads out there playing in Antrim would love the chance to represent their county but have not been asked. Its time the footballers took the same approach as the hurling and realise where its at and try and build itself up against.

The hurlers may not be the best but they have a great team spirit in the panel and are starting to get it right again.

All this nonsense about not enough representation by the county champions etc look at the hurling, 2 starting from Loughgiel, 1 from Dunloy, 4 from Cushendall & 2 from Ballycastle. All the top 4 clubs in Antrim.

That is 9 out of 15 from the best teams in the county. Besides I would say the hurling has also suffered from not getting our best players out over the last decade and in real terms our hurlers are not faring a great deal better than our footballers. But my point is not about filling the team with players from the County champions but rather the lack of some obvious players from these teams on an ongoing basis and indeed as CB pointed out other top players in the county. These are guys with know how how and have proven it by continually coming out on top even in recent years when people thought they were there for the taking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.
I understand two Dunloy players decided not to make themselves available for county minor duty....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 22, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.

Arrogance? One thing that cant be thrown at the current management is they haven't gave the weaker team's players a chance at county football. 

Ill state very clearly here that there are no hidden Bernard Brogan's plying their trade in Div 2 or 3. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 22, 2017, 04:40:39 PM
Russ has given plenty of div 2 players a go this season. The entire full back line yesterday was from div 2.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 22, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.

Arrogance? One thing that cant be thrown at the current management is they haven't gave the weaker team's players a chance at county football. 

Ill state very clearly here that there are no hidden Bernard Brogan's plying their trade in Div 2, 3 or 4.

Better than that, there are no players hidden in Div 4 in Antrim and any good players in Div 3 are probably going backwards at an alarming rate given the standard of that competition.

I agree that the current management have cast the net wide but if we do not have our top experienced players on board to lead then this almost becomes futile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2017, 04:44:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.
I understand two Dunloy players decided not to make themselves available for county minor duty....?
Sian Elliot.....Declan Smith...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 22, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: Hectic on May 22, 2017, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 22, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.

Arrogance? One thing that cant be thrown at the current management is they haven't gave the weaker team's players a chance at county football. 

Ill state very clearly here that there are no hidden Bernard Brogan's plying their trade in Div 2, 3 or 4.

Better than that, there are no players hidden in Div 4 in Antrim and any good players in Div 3 are probably going backwards at an alarming rate given the standard of that competition.

I agree that the current management have cast the net wide but if we do not have our top experienced players on board to lead then this almost becomes futile.

I'd of rather had a Sean Burke or Mick McCann or Justin Crozier lining up yesterday and that is no disrespect to those lads who started but we need our most experienced lads out in a saffron jersey.

Saying that, we are where we are for a reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2017, 04:44:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
well its that arrogance thats costing the county potential players.

its pretty clear that whats there isnt good enough. Its about time they started looking throughout the county for every single talented player.
I understand two Dunloy players decided not to make themselves available for county minor duty....?
Sian Elliot.....Declan Smith...

I spoke to Deaglan about why he wasnt on it and he told me it wasnt worth it as last year he didnt get near playing and also with him playing hurling he couldn't commit to the training nights they wanted with the football.

Seaan is the same, the lads are dual players and its near impossible to train for both of them at county and club level. both are playing U21 hurling as well.

a real pity as the two of them are great footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 07:41:17 PM
Talking about other players not on the senior team is daft.... that's the squad that committed to staying the distance... whether there are better players not playing county is irrelevant as they didn't commit for whatever reason..

To use a soccer view... it's like Chelsea playing York city... minors playing well and winning one match won't fix it, changing managers every 3 years won't fix it either. Getting a state of the art county ground won't also....

back to basics with kids and schools.... proper coaching at clubs and schools with a plan to bring competitive games at all levels within all areas schools/colleges/clubs.... getting all the clubs coaches and schools to row in behind this is the first problem...

If we continue to do the same thing we'll continue to get the same results... keep bashing the people who put their names forward for managing then we won't get anyone half decent to take it on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 22, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Jesus lads, Div 1 team beats a now div 4 team... What were you expecting? Had they taken their goal chance early on and continued with their pressure they applied for most of the first half then we might have had a better impact... Until Antrim become a div 1/2 team then we can expect a beating like that, just like Monaghan beat Fermanagh

Sligo, a Div 3 team, in the game with Mayo until the late stages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 22, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Jesus lads, Div 1 team beats a now div 4 team... What were you expecting? Had they taken their goal chance early on and continued with their pressure they applied for most of the first half then we might have had a better impact... Until Antrim become a div 1/2 team then we can expect a beating like that, just like Monaghan beat Fermanagh

Sligo, a Div 3 team, in the game with Mayo until the late stages.

Beat by nine, Donegal as good as Mayo and Sligo better than Antrim,  what's your point?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 22, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Jesus lads, Div 1 team beats a now div 4 team... What were you expecting? Had they taken their goal chance early on and continued with their pressure they applied for most of the first half then we might have had a better impact... Until Antrim become a div 1/2 team then we can expect a beating like that, just like Monaghan beat Fermanagh

Sligo, a Div 3 team, in the game with Mayo until the late stages.



Beat by nine, Donegal as good as Mayo and Sligo better than Antrim,  what's your point?

we beat Sligo in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 22, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Jesus lads, Div 1 team beats a now div 4 team... What were you expecting? Had they taken their goal chance early on and continued with their pressure they applied for most of the first half then we might have had a better impact... Until Antrim become a div 1/2 team then we can expect a beating like that, just like Monaghan beat Fermanagh

Sligo, a Div 3 team, in the game with Mayo until the late stages.



Beat by nine, Donegal as good as Mayo and Sligo better than Antrim,  what's your point?

we beat Sligo in the league.

Ah right so by beating Sligo in the league we should have beaten Donegal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 22, 2017, 10:30:38 PM
His point was in reference to you saying Sligo are better than Antrim. Your next move could have been "Sligo didn't get relegated to Div 4".

And this could continue on.....

Or it could stop, I suppose.

To bring all points together here. Nobody expected Antrim to beat Donegal, indeed, Antrim were never going to beat Donegal. The problem some have is that the way we went about the game, we never gave ourselves a chance (even had we been the luckiest lucksters in the world). The frustration of these same people hasn't come solely from yesterday's game. We have had 3 years of the same. Hasn't worked, isn't working, never will work. Even against teams of a much lesser calibre than Donegal. Yet, we persist....and then we try the same again...then we go back to the drawing board and we trace the outline of the previous plan....and we lose.....again.

At least, I think that's their point.

Right we don't have the personnel to beat Donegal, a team that has won All Ireland recently or the players that don't commit to helping the cause... but it's the managements fault? Or players fault? What manager out there could improve on that performance or players that want to commit would make a difference ?

We need a long term plan with the proper structures in place to support it... until then we'll continue to get same results
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2017, 10:52:54 PM


Ah right so by beating Sligo in the league we should have beaten Donegal?
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Eh..no, just picking up on your assertion that Sligo are better than Antrim. We beat them in the league a few weeks ago. So I sort of take that as evidence that they are not better than us. Crazy huh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2017, 10:52:54 PM


Ah right so by beating Sligo in the league we should have beaten Donegal?

Eh..no, just picking up on your assertion that Sligo are better than Antrim. We beat them in the league a few weeks ago. So I sort of take that as evidence that they are not better than us. Crazy huh?
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Brendan here's something even more crazy, Sligo are still a div 3 team and Antrim isn't.. now I don't know if you know how the league finished up so I'll post it below

https://www.rte.ie/sport/results/gaa/2017/6098/tables/

It shows that in the league Sligo has more points than Antrim so unless I'm mistaken Sligo are a better team than us...

No one addressing the problem here, just continue with the blaming cause hey that's easy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2017, 11:09:02 PM
I haven't blamed anybody.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2017, 11:09:02 PM
I haven't blamed anybody.

I didn't say you did, but it creeps in on most posters here...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 23, 2017, 01:50:17 AM
Bickering will get us nowhere

How we dropped the heads and downed tools when they got ahead was sickening. Complete lack of pride

Awful and embarrassing. The  2 managers have tried and dont have what others do do work with but it is not out of line to question are they the sharpest.

In life you need to be careful what you wish for...Baker was what we needed....took no crap and instilled a bit of pride in us. Id take him back a 3rd time. People wanted rid of him as they now do Wenger and did Mickey Harte last year.

Im rambling here but its still very raw...i love Antrim and dont like deffering to anyone, whether its Donegal or Kerry. We are have 2 arms, 2legs and pair of balls. Its time we stopped doffing the cap and f**king change the record as the minors did
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2017, 08:01:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 22, 2017, 10:30:38 PM
His point was in reference to you saying Sligo are better than Antrim. Your next move could have been "Sligo didn't get relegated to Div 4".

And this could continue on.....

Or it could stop, I suppose.

To bring all points together here. Nobody expected Antrim to beat Donegal, indeed, Antrim were never going to beat Donegal. The problem some have is that the way we went about the game, we never gave ourselves a chance (even had we been the luckiest lucksters in the world). The frustration of these same people hasn't come solely from yesterday's game. We have had 3 years of the same. Hasn't worked, isn't working, never will work. Even against teams of a much lesser calibre than Donegal. Yet, we persist....and then we try the same again...then we go back to the drawing board and we trace the outline of the previous plan....and we lose.....again.

At least, I think that's their point.

Right we don't have the personnel to beat Donegal, a team that has won All Ireland recently or the players that don't commit to helping the cause... but it's the managements fault? Or players fault? What manager out there could improve on that performance or players that want to commit would make a difference ?

We need a long term plan with the proper structures in place to support it... until then we'll continue to get same results

absolutely agree MR2. we dont have the structures in place that other counties do in terms of youth development, coaching etc. were relying each year on the clubs to do all of the hard work and then in many cases reluctantly send them to the county. the development squads need their time over the years to get the lads up to the same standard as the rest of ulster. We have a decent minor side, but thats all it is. One good squad at the moment. we cant rest on that group, we need another one next year and the year after that.

we need to be producing good minor squads every year and thats done through coaching, youth development, investment into the county and the development squads. we need a long term strategy as MR2 says and it needs to be something with realistic aims and targets.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 23, 2017, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 07:41:17 PM
Talking about other players not on the senior team is daft.... that's the squad that committed to staying the distance... whether there are better players not playing county is irrelevant as they didn't commit for whatever reason..

To use a soccer view... it's like Chelsea playing York city... minors playing well and winning one match won't fix it, changing managers every 3 years won't fix it either. Getting a state of the art county ground won't also....

back to basics with kids and schools.... proper coaching at clubs and schools with a plan to bring competitive games at all levels within all areas schools/colleges/clubs.... getting all the clubs coaches and schools to row in behind this is the first problem...

If we continue to do the same thing we'll continue to get the same results... keep bashing the people who put their names forward for managing then we won't get anyone half decent to take it on

Are you an apologist for the management or something?? You cannot defend their tactics, team selection or game management on this occasion, you simply cant. This isn't Chelsea vs York City - its Chelsea vs Sunderland - not expected to win but not expected to take such a hiding that the debate has been raised again about a two tier system  - that's how bad that defeat was!!!.

We've always said on here that the structures need to be in place (obvious) but here we are, years later and we have the same problem. Changing management is not ideal but, to borrow your analogy, we aren't talking about replacing an Alex Ferguson here. 3 years is enough for any man to make improvements - I think we can safely say we are deteriorating so time to get rid. That's the risk every manager of every football team in the country takes when he considers a job. People aren't putting their names forward due to the shoestring budget, lack of infrastructure, solid training base etc etc. Not because they get  a touch on here - Antrim must have one of the lowest expectation requirement of any job - all we ask is for improvement and seeing as we are at the bottom the only way is up!

Whats not attractive about the job?  No stadium, Belfast players don't enjoy travelling to Dunsilly, players have little pride in playing, best players don't want to play for the county, no money for top coaches, cant agree on a settled temporary county ground etc etc .......sure the advert writes itself!!

First stop is getting a man with a good intercounty CV. The hurlers were happy to recruit from Tipperary so whats stopping the footballers going further than a neighbouring county?? Time to throw the net  out a bit farther

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 23, 2017, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2017, 07:41:17 PM
Talking about other players not on the senior team is daft.... that's the squad that committed to staying the distance... whether there are better players not playing county is irrelevant as they didn't commit for whatever reason..

To use a soccer view... it's like Chelsea playing York city... minors playing well and winning one match won't fix it, changing managers every 3 years won't fix it either. Getting a state of the art county ground won't also....

back to basics with kids and schools.... proper coaching at clubs and schools with a plan to bring competitive games at all levels within all areas schools/colleges/clubs.... getting all the clubs coaches and schools to row in behind this is the first problem...

If we continue to do the same thing we'll continue to get the same results... keep bashing the people who put their names forward for managing then we won't get anyone half decent to take it on

Are you an apologist for the management or something?? You cannot defend their tactics, team selection or game management on this occasion, you simply cant. This isn't Chelsea vs York City - its Chelsea vs Sunderland - not expected to win but not expected to take such a hiding that the debate has been raised again about a two tier system  - that's how bad that defeat was!!!.

We've always said on here that the structures need to be in place (obvious) but here we are, years later and we have the same problem. Changing management is not ideal but, to borrow your analogy, we aren't talking about replacing an Alex Ferguson here. 3 years is enough for any man to make improvements - I think we can safely say we are deteriorating so time to get rid. That's the risk every manager of every football team in the country takes when he considers a job. People aren't putting their names forward due to the shoestring budget, lack of infrastructure, solid training base etc etc. Not because they get  a touch on here - Antrim must have one of the lowest expectation requirement of any job - all we ask is for improvement and seeing as we are at the bottom the only way is up!

Whats not attractive about the job?  No stadium, Belfast players don't enjoy travelling to Dunsilly, players have little pride in playing, best players don't want to play for the county, no money for top coaches, cant agree on a settled temporary county ground etc etc .......sure the advert writes itself!!

First stop is getting a man with a good intercounty CV. The hurlers were happy to recruit from Tipperary so whats stopping the footballers going further than a neighbouring county?? Time to throw the net  out a bit farther

Im not an apologist for the management, they know managers are judge on results, and mainly the league results as thats our level or just above it...

Expecting to come within 10 points of a div 1 team isnt being real, dying with your boots and and emptied the tank is ... We didnt get the game plan right because once they sussed it out they (like most quality teams) they over ran us, won possesion and broke quickly up field where they had players that can punish you..

To be able to brink on Lacey McBearty and the like shows you the strength in depth they have... One minute Murphy is plucking the ball out of the sky in his own 6 yard box and then setting up a defence splitting pass ...

Yes no doubt the managers will step down and we'll bring in new ones and hey, we will get the same results because the players havent changed, still taking them from committed group
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
We are undoubtedly dwelling in the basement in the country and indeed it would be difficult to envisage better times ahead until we answer the difficult questions truthfully.
Had we the best players in the county involved on Sunday...?
Just where were men like Mick Mc Cann, Justin Crozier, Niall Mc Keever, the Burke brothers, the Johnstons, and more than a few others who are certainly more than capable of still wearing the Saffron.
Aye right they removed themselves from the panel and nobody bothers to ask why......
We are a county which has no training facilities, and indeed one in which the senior team management are forced to organise fund raising events and are asked to pay for those players who had the cheek to eat steak on the road and make use of far too many shower caps....ffs.
Then we have the minor management asked to fund away 'challenge games' themselves and forced to dig into their own pockets on Sunday last to come up with payment for extra pre game breakfasts in Donegal.
We do have a duty of care for those young men/kids who can provide a better future but in my humble opinion and in more than a few others we have failed dismally.

I am most afraid that unless radical change of attitude in those who would lead us and a realization that they are of much lesser importance than those who will wear the Saffron jersey failure will continue as the diet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2017, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
We are undoubtedly dwelling in the basement in the country and indeed it would be difficult to envisage better times ahead until we answer the difficult questions truthfully.
Had we the best players in the county involved on Sunday...?
Just where were men like Mick Mc Cann, Justin Crozier, Niall Mc Keever, the Burke brothers, the Johnstons, and more than a few others who are certainly more than capable of still wearing the Saffron.
Aye right they removed themselves from the panel and nobody bothers to ask why......
We are a county which has no training facilities, and indeed one in which the senior team management are forced to organise fund raising events and are asked to pay for those players who had the cheek to eat steak on the road and make use of far too many shower caps....ffs.
Then we have the minor management asked to fund away 'challenge games' themselves and forced to dig into their own pockets on Sunday last to come up with payment for extra pre game breakfasts in Donegal.
We do have a duty of care for those young men/kids who can provide a better future but in my humble opinion and in more than a few others we have failed dismally.

I am most afraid that unless radical change of attitude in those who would lead us and a realization that they are of much lesser importance than those who will wear the Saffron jersey failure will continue as the diet

Were most of those guys not involved when Fermanagh hammered us in the last couple of years??

Hardly hammered on either occasion......the home side scored a penalty in the latter stages in 2015 to win 1-13 to 0-08 having played with against a 14 man Antrim for most of the game in 2015.
In 2016 Fermanagh won by five pts after a strong finish.....

And ur point is......?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2017, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
We are undoubtedly dwelling in the basement in the country and indeed it would be difficult to envisage better times ahead until we answer the difficult questions truthfully.
Had we the best players in the county involved on Sunday...?
Just where were men like Mick Mc Cann, Justin Crozier, Niall Mc Keever, the Burke brothers, the Johnstons, and more than a few others who are certainly more than capable of still wearing the Saffron.
Aye right they removed themselves from the panel and nobody bothers to ask why......
We are a county which has no training facilities, and indeed one in which the senior team management are forced to organise fund raising events and are asked to pay for those players who had the cheek to eat steak on the road and make use of far too many shower caps....ffs.
Then we have the minor management asked to fund away 'challenge games' themselves and forced to dig into their own pockets on Sunday last to come up with payment for extra pre game breakfasts in Donegal.
We do have a duty of care for those young men/kids who can provide a better future but in my humble opinion and in more than a few others we have failed dismally.

I am most afraid that unless radical change of attitude in those who would lead us and a realization that they are of much lesser importance than those who will wear the Saffron jersey failure will continue as the diet

Were most of those guys not involved when Fermanagh hammered us in the last couple of years??

Hardly hammered on either occasion......the home side scored a penalty in the latter stages in 2015 to win 1-13 to 0-08 having played with against a 14 man Antrim for most of the game in 2015.
In 2016 Fermanagh won by five pts after a strong finish.....

And ur point is......?



Id say the point is we are still shite, even more shit to be beaten by a team that has a smaller group to pick from (I'd imagine) But if you think its the food the players are not getting then keep going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
We could stop paying refs aswell and not buy tracksuits for players or stop paying the county secretary a salary. Make them do it for nothing, really get back to the volunteer status of the association as money is so tight that we can't throw a 17 year old a breakfast or a senior player a post match dinner. Adopt Trumps saying, MAKE ANTRIM GREAT AGAIN! Make people work for us and that will increase the possibility of everybody fulfilling their potential. Build a wall and keep the Down, Derry & Tyrone clubs out of our leagues, have Antrim leagues for Antrim teams. Have Antrim managers only in charge of Antrim clubs, no outsiders, don't allow outside players from other counties to play for our clubs.

;) ;) ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
We could stop paying refs aswell and not buy tracksuits for players or stop paying the county secretary a salary. Make them do it for nothing, really get back to the volunteer status of the association as money is so tight that we can't throw a 17 year old a breakfast or a senior player a post match dinner. Adopt Trumps saying, MAKE ANTRIM GREAT AGAIN! Make people work for us and that will increase the possibility of everybody fulfilling their potential. Build a wall and keep the Down, Derry & Tyrone clubs out of our leagues, have Antrim leagues for Antrim teams. Have Antrim managers only in charge of Antrim clubs, no outsiders, don't allow outside players from other counties to play for our clubs.

;) ;) ::)

Smashing idea. I think you should run for chairman as you have great qualities
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
We could stop paying refs aswell and not buy tracksuits for players or stop paying the county secretary a salary. Make them do it for nothing, really get back to the volunteer status of the association as money is so tight that we can't throw a 17 year old a breakfast or a senior player a post match dinner. Adopt Trumps saying, MAKE ANTRIM GREAT AGAIN! Make people work for us and that will increase the possibility of everybody fulfilling their potential. Build a wall and keep the Down, Derry & Tyrone clubs out of our leagues, have Antrim leagues for Antrim teams. Have Antrim managers only in charge of Antrim clubs, no outsiders, don't allow outside players from other counties to play for our clubs.

;) ;) ::)

Smashing idea. I think you should run for chairman as you have great qualities

Opposites attract MR2! You, CB & I could be the next top brass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
My first act would be to ask why are parents not feeding their kids breakfast?? Brexit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
My first act would be to ask why are parents not feeding their kids breakfast?? Brexit?
A really mature comment indeed MR2......but I do wonder if such would be your reasoning if you had a son on the minor panel and indeed you flippancy underlines a couldn't care less attitude.
Take a dander up to Milltown Row some evening and have a yarn with a former Gall's manager who was asked to dig deep into his pocket at the week-end Clan Ree stop, or the centre back who played a leading role on Sunday's successful minor team and learn.
Seems you really have really gained respect aplenty for our beloved county board nowadays which does differ considerably from those bygone days on another like site. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
My first act would be to ask why are parents not feeding their kids breakfast?? Brexit?
A really mature comment indeed MR2......but I do wonder if such would be your reasoning if you had a son on the minor panel and indeed you flippancy underlines a couldn't care less attitude.
Take a dander up to Milltown Row some evening and have a yarn with a former Gall's manager who was asked to dig deep into his pocket at the week-end Clan Ree stop, or the centre back who played a leading role on Sunday's successful minor team and learn.
Seems you really have really gained respect aplenty for our beloved county board nowadays which does differ considerably from those bygone days on another like site. ;)

Are you still talking about the lack of money within Antrim county board? And not feeding the kids ?? Dig deep into your pockets cb as the county has no money as far as I can see... you really think they can pull money from thin air? Nuts absolutely nuts!!

My issues were over fixtures and how it affecting the senior team I managed, like all concerned managers do who have dual players and county players, oh wait, you wouldn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 24, 2017, 12:55:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
We could stop paying refs aswell and not buy tracksuits for players or stop paying the county secretary a salary. Make them do it for nothing, really get back to the volunteer status of the association as money is so tight that we can't throw a 17 year old a breakfast or a senior player a post match dinner. Adopt Trumps saying, MAKE ANTRIM GREAT AGAIN! Make people work for us and that will increase the possibility of everybody fulfilling their potential. Build a wall and keep the Down, Derry & Tyrone clubs out of our leagues, have Antrim leagues for Antrim teams. Have Antrim managers only in charge of Antrim clubs, no outsiders, don't allow outside players from other counties to play for our clubs.

;) ;) ::)

I agree, and I could put a few more in, but you're almost there... YBR...

There is one thing for certain, no matter what sport, THE LEAGUE DOESN'T LIE...  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 24, 2017, 07:01:19 AM
Quote from: bogieman on May 24, 2017, 12:55:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
We could stop paying refs aswell and not buy tracksuits for players or stop paying the county secretary a salary. Make them do it for nothing, really get back to the volunteer status of the association as money is so tight that we can't throw a 17 year old a breakfast or a senior player a post match dinner. Adopt Trumps saying, MAKE ANTRIM GREAT AGAIN! Make people work for us and that will increase the possibility of everybody fulfilling their potential. Build a wall and keep the Down, Derry & Tyrone clubs out of our leagues, have Antrim leagues for Antrim teams. Have Antrim managers only in charge of Antrim clubs, no outsiders, don't allow outside players from other counties to play for our clubs.

;) ;) ::)

I agree, and I could put a few more in, but you're almost there... YBR...

There is one thing for certain, no matter what sport, THE LEAGUE DOESN'T LIE...  8)

Feel free to add 👍👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on May 24, 2017, 09:12:32 AM
Look I think Sunday just laid it all out bare. We have many failings from grassroots upward but for me I was hoping to see a brave effort, something to cling to, signs that there was potential, some character, defiance etc. Instead it was what I feared most, a total capitulation. Yes we were playing one of the top teams in the country but I had hoped that might inspire us.

I don't know if the management are to blame unless they have put players off representing their county then they are playing the hand they have been dealt. I do not blame the players as no doubt these lads have bust a gut and made sacrifice over the last number of months and have been let down by the absence of more experienced players to lead them.

I think there is a general apathy and lack of direction right down to club level. There are exceptions but there are many failings and having followed Antrim for close to 40 years it is the same old story stuck on repeat play.

Looking at the club scene it is generally either the same people or else parents. In an ideal world you would have specialists at each age group that stay there and the kids get to move through different pairs of hands meaning they are being coached different ideas at an appropriate level and removing any potential for discrimination or favouritism. Equally the schools, particularly primary schools have to work hand in hand. Money might be tight but the aforementioned approach would be a good start.

Fffff knows but when you do not have hope you have nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2017, 09:37:46 AM
I'm still waiting for Banndisde's take on it all. Usually has his finger on the pulse and his heart in the right place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 24, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2017, 09:37:46 AM
I'm still waiting for Banndisde's take on it all. Usually has his finger on the pulse and his heart in the right place.

I think his silence says it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2017, 10:52:14 AM
I have no great insight into Sunday as I choose not to go. Which from my point of view says it all too really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 24, 2017, 10:54:17 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2017, 10:52:14 AM
I have no great insight into Sunday as I choose not to go. Which from my point of view says it all too really.

You'll be accused of not being a proper county man now if you didn't go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2017, 06:11:00 PM
Those fermanagh games generally weren't as close as the scoreline suggested either :(

We just don't have it at the minute. The exact reasons for that i just don't know but at the minute the ulster championship is just a day out with no chance of anything from it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
Lost sight of the Under-21 hurling championship it seem....no vision ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2017, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
Lost sight of the Under-21 hurling championship it seem....no vision ?

Or breakfast for flip sake!! Madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on May 25, 2017, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 24, 2017, 04:31:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 23, 2017, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2017, 03:16:02 PM
We are undoubtedly dwelling in the basement in the country and indeed it would be difficult to envisage better times ahead until we answer the difficult questions truthfully.
Had we the best players in the county involved on Sunday...?
Just where were men like Mick Mc Cann, Justin Crozier, Niall Mc Keever, the Burke brothers, the Johnstons, and more than a few others who are certainly more than capable of still wearing the Saffron.
Aye right they removed themselves from the panel and nobody bothers to ask why......
We are a county which has no training facilities, and indeed one in which the senior team management are forced to organise fund raising events and are asked to pay for those players who had the cheek to eat steak on the road and make use of far too many shower caps....ffs.
Then we have the minor management asked to fund away 'challenge games' themselves and forced to dig into their own pockets on Sunday last to come up with payment for extra pre game breakfasts in Donegal.
We do have a duty of care for those young men/kids who can provide a better future but in my humble opinion and in more than a few others we have failed dismally.

I am most afraid that unless radical change of attitude in those who would lead us and a realization that they are of much lesser importance than those who will wear the Saffron jersey failure will continue as the diet

Were most of those guys not involved when Fermanagh hammered us in the last couple of years??

Hardly hammered on either occasion......the home side scored a penalty in the latter stages in 2015 to win 1-13 to 0-08 having played with against a 14 man Antrim for most of the game in 2015.
In 2016 Fermanagh won by five pts after a strong finish.....

And ur point is......?



Id say the point is we are still shite, even more shit to be beaten by a team that has a smaller group to pick from (I'd imagine) But if you think its the food the players are not getting then keep going

Yes, I suppose my point is that if we accept that the players named in CB's post are better than some of those who played on Sunday, then even with most of those players Fermanagh (with 8 senior clubs) beat Antrim 1-13 to 0-08 in Ulster, then 1-21 to 0-13 in a qualifier in 2015 and 1-12 to 0-09 in Ulster in 2016.  That's a cumulative defeat of 25 points.  Granted Antrim did beat Laois in the qualifiers in 2015.  It looks like even if we have our best 15-20 out we're still a way off being competitive in Ulster.

Fermanagh have 8 senior clubs, but the fundraising and organization that the put into their games would put Antrim to shame.

When I was at college in Belfast 20 years, the Fermanagh board had set up a mini bus leaving Queens to take the lads to training for football and hurling. I hate to go here, but they also ensured the lads got a dinner on the way home. They had tracksuits, kit bags and were given 2 /3 sets of boots per year. When you spoke to them, they referred to the county as "we", i.e. county board and the teams working together. At the same time, the Antrim players were paying for taxis and waiting months for the reimbursement. No such thing as kit bags, boots etc, and getting a kitkat and drink, and sometimes sandwiches after training.

How come a county of 8 senior clubs can provide so well for their teams and Antrim could not. And how come in the past 20 years we have not been able to set up the structures to match at least what Fermanagh had years ago, never mind what Down and Tyrone have now.

And one last antidote, Down establish Club Down in 1960 FFS!!! and provided the great down team with all the support they needed, arranging club fixtures around county training, meals, medical help, travel costs etc. When you talk to the players on those teams they say that it was a big factor them stepping up and winning All Irelands. 60 years later Antrim have not even met that standard.

If we want Antrim to improve, everything has to improve, starting with leadership and the county board. They should set the clear vision and the short, medium and long term steps to get there and we need to address fundraising, coaching standards, etc etc. Until we do this we will be having the same conversation in 20 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
It's down to money.... if we don't have it we can't support it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on May 25, 2017, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
It's down to money.... if we don't have it we can't support it

This is where I'm critical of the county board, where's the business plan or fundraising plan to get us there?

We need to see the plan, critique it, get a vote on it and get everybody marching towards it.

Otherwise the leadership will always hid behind "lack of money"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 25, 2017, 12:08:11 PM
Not everyone has everything right and we certainly don't; not yet anyway. Club Down may have been formed in 1960 but even they are going through an overhaul and a re vamp. Club Aontroma was formed in 2008 and is going through a similar overhaul. Last Friday the new fundraising body in Antrim hosted a lunch where 470 - four hundred and seventy - people either bought a £60 ticket or in most cases were guests of corporate businesses who paid £600 for a table. That's serious fundraising.

The auction on the day - with all the prizes sourced or donated from among supportive Antrim related businesses, raised over £18,000. We had Ross Carr at our table and he left wondering if Down could even pull off such an event.

Now, there was a huge bloody effort involved in managing and delivering that event and in truth it was driven by no more than 8-10 individuals. Antrim is getting things right off the pitch so please take that into account.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 25, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Well said Brendan. Anyone who was at the dinner was exceptionally impressed. A great sum was raised and new businesses signed up to the Saffron Business Club.

That's just part of the fundraising effort but unfortunately due to our historic debt it will be a while before it filters through to the playing side of things. Talking of that though, there is no doubt that our development squad work has raised its game since Paul Doherty took up the main role. Our juveniles, minors and under twenty ones are a good deal more competitive than they were a decade ago. So that should be recognised.

That leaves the area of senior inter county participation....and here we continue to underperform. Yes our budgets are minimal compared to successful counties, but the immediate priority of the new board was to halt the financial decline, reduce the deficit and steady the ship. That is being achieved and the men doing that deserve our gratitude, not our derision. That's work in progress which was always going to take years. So we need to be patient here.

Could our senior footballers be doing much better. Yes they should. And I'd say that's one of the boards next priorities. And I trust they won't be found wanting when the time comes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on May 25, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 25, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Well said Brendan. Anyone who was at the dinner was exceptionally impressed. A great sum was raised and new businesses signed up to the Saffron Business Club.

That's just part of the fundraising effort but unfortunately due to our historic debt it will be a while before it filters through to the playing side of things. Talking of that though, there is no doubt that our development squad work has raised its game since Paul Doherty took up the main role. Our juveniles, minors and under twenty ones are a good deal more competitive than they were a decade ago. So that should be recognised.

That leaves the area of senior inter county participation....and here we continue to underperform. Yes our budgets are minimal compared to successful counties, but the immediate priority of the new board was to halt the financial decline, reduce the deficit and steady the ship. That is being achieved and the men doing that deserve our gratitude, not our derision. That's work in progress which was always going to take years. So we need to be patient here.

Could our senior footballers be doing much better. Yes they should. And I'd say that's one of the boards next priorities. And I trust they won't be found wanting when the time comes.

Have issues with that comment. Was the fund raising event focused on delivering monies to manage the  county's debt, or for development squads etc? If we are saying that the money was raised for debt management then there is an issue.

My own club has identified that different revenue streams fund different outlays for the club and the county needs to be clear how it plans to manage this

I work for a global multinational company and we are under gross margin and net margin pressures to stay competitive. We have a major "fund raising" program in the guise of a cost optimization program to manage the debts /expenditures, but at the same time our R&D expenditure has been increased. Everybody understands the strategy, R&D drives future performance and cost management drives current performance. Together they will both enable the company to be competitive.

If Antrim doesn't get this balance correct, then we'll never deliver to our potential.

This is a major issue, let's say that it will take Antrim GAA 20 years to payoff the debt before money is focused on the development side, then we need to accept that we will be 4th class citizens in the GAA hierarchy.

Or maybe we should have a plan to get finances sorted over a 30 year period and release more funds to the development activities.

Need some clarity, but at a minimum, we should be targeting the same support to our county teams as our neighbors are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 25, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on May 25, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 25, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Well said Brendan. Anyone who was at the dinner was exceptionally impressed. A great sum was raised and new businesses signed up to the Saffron Business Club.

That's just part of the fundraising effort but unfortunately due to our historic debt it will be a while before it filters through to the playing side of things. Talking of that though, there is no doubt that our development squad work has raised its game since Paul Doherty took up the main role. Our juveniles, minors and under twenty ones are a good deal more competitive than they were a decade ago. So that should be recognised.

That leaves the area of senior inter county participation....and here we continue to underperform. Yes our budgets are minimal compared to successful counties, but the immediate priority of the new board was to halt the financial decline, reduce the deficit and steady the ship. That is being achieved and the men doing that deserve our gratitude, not our derision. That's work in progress which was always going to take years. So we need to be patient here.

Could our senior footballers be doing much better. Yes they should. And I'd say that's one of the boards next priorities. And I trust they won't be found wanting when the time comes.

Have issues with that comment. Was the fund raising event focused on delivering monies to manage the  county's debt, or for development squads etc? If we are saying that the money was raised for debt management then there is an issue.

My own club has identified that different revenue streams fund different outlays for the club and the county needs to be clear how it plans to manage this

I work for a global multinational company and we are under gross margin and net margin pressures to stay competitive. We have a major "fund raising" program in the guise of a cost optimization program to manage the debts /expenditures, but at the same time our R&D expenditure has been increased. Everybody understands the strategy, R&D drives future performance and cost management drives current performance. Together they will both enable the company to be competitive.

If Antrim doesn't get this balance correct, then we'll never deliver to our potential.

This is a major issue, let's say that it will take Antrim GAA 20 years to payoff the debt before money is focused on the development side, then we need to accept that we will be 4th class citizens in the GAA hierarchy.

Or maybe we should have a plan to get finances sorted over a 30 year period and release more funds to the development activities.

Need some clarity, but at a minimum, we should be targeting the same support to our county teams as our neighbors are.
Glad to see u on in support of your mate(s), and I see you akin to those on high share the same philosophy of those politicians across the sea (thankfully), they would also claim all ailments are the cause of others, and the only way forward is in austerity (for others).
Could I ask you just when we will aspire to even an Ulster title at senior level, and wherein is the talent to bring us to the top, and having seen the crowds which attend our games where is the support coming from.......
A few hundred in total watched all the county games on home soil in 2017........and even on the domestic front most times it is difficult to locate a couple of linesmen and umpires.
Although you scorned reports that our future (minors and under-17s) were treated less than well this such is an undoubted fact....will such encourage them to carry on regardless in the years to come?
Those young men are absolutely fundamental to our future and as a good friend of mine told me years ago, "When you lose the fundamental, you lose the argument".

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 25, 2017, 03:05:03 PM
Lads - a few facts wouldn't go amiss here.....

The Coiste Urraiochta - the fundraising arm of the Coiste Banaiste, which organised last week's lunch and which launched the Saffron Business Network, has agreed a six figure budget per annum with the Devt Squads - covering this year and next - and that is a significant increase on previous budgets allocated to the squads, and is well above a number of other Ulster counties. So while dealing with the inherited debt, investment is also being made on current needs with the focus - rightly in my opinion - on the development squads. Anything else you hear is tittle tattle.

Our teams are provided for now more than any time in the recent past. Don't underestimate how much it costs to run development squads, up to and including minor, at all age grades and in both codes. With respect to our neighbours no other county in Ulster does it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on May 25, 2017, 05:10:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 25, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on May 25, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 25, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
Well said Brendan. Anyone who was at the dinner was exceptionally impressed. A great sum was raised and new businesses signed up to the Saffron Business Club.

That's just part of the fundraising effort but unfortunately due to our historic debt it will be a while before it filters through to the playing side of things. Talking of that though, there is no doubt that our development squad work has raised its game since Paul Doherty took up the main role. Our juveniles, minors and under twenty ones are a good deal more competitive than they were a decade ago. So that should be recognised.

That leaves the area of senior inter county participation....and here we continue to underperform. Yes our budgets are minimal compared to successful counties, but the immediate priority of the new board was to halt the financial decline, reduce the deficit and steady the ship. That is being achieved and the men doing that deserve our gratitude, not our derision. That's work in progress which was always going to take years. So we need to be patient here.

Could our senior footballers be doing much better. Yes they should. And I'd say that's one of the boards next priorities. And I trust they won't be found wanting when the time comes.

Have issues with that comment. Was the fund raising event focused on delivering monies to manage the  county's debt, or for development squads etc? If we are saying that the money was raised for debt management then there is an issue.

My own club has identified that different revenue streams fund different outlays for the club and the county needs to be clear how it plans to manage this

I work for a global multinational company and we are under gross margin and net margin pressures to stay competitive. We have a major "fund raising" program in the guise of a cost optimization program to manage the debts /expenditures, but at the same time our R&D expenditure has been increased. Everybody understands the strategy, R&D drives future performance and cost management drives current performance. Together they will both enable the company to be competitive.

If Antrim doesn't get this balance correct, then we'll never deliver to our potential.

This is a major issue, let's say that it will take Antrim GAA 20 years to payoff the debt before money is focused on the development side, then we need to accept that we will be 4th class citizens in the GAA hierarchy.

Or maybe we should have a plan to get finances sorted over a 30 year period and release more funds to the development activities.

Need some clarity, but at a minimum, we should be targeting the same support to our county teams as our neighbors are.
Glad to see u on in support of your mate(s), who?

and I see you akin to those on high share the same philosophy of those politicians across the sea (thankfully), they would also claim all ailments are the cause of others, and the only way forward is in austerity (for others).
Never said that. What I did say is that in business you have to balance cost management and investment in the future. I don't believe in austerity for austerity sake, but I do agree with looking at where money is being spent and making sure it's getting to the right people and projects, and not jobs for the boys projects.

Could I ask you just when we will aspire to even an Ulster title at senior level, and wherein is the talent to bring us to the top,

As I mentioned before, I believe that we as a county have a decision to make. If we aggressively invest now in the youth you are talking about 15 - 20 years before we should be targeting being competitive at the top table. But this means investing both in our youth and senior teams, as we need the top teams to start pushing up in small steps.

and having seen the crowds which attend our games where is the support coming from.......
A few hundred in total watched all the county games on home soil in 2017........and even on the domestic front most times it is difficult to locate a couple of linesmen and umpires.

Build it and they will come. When you have a competitive team, more people will come to watch it. But before we have numbers, the county should recognize that the when you have moderate numbers coming to watch, host the games in a smaller venue, e.g. Toome, Ahoghil, St Pauls,  etc to generate atmosphere.
   
Although you scorned reports that our future (minors and under-17s) were treated less than well this such is an undoubted fact....will such encourage them to carry on regardless in the years to come?

I didn't scorn reports, I'm disgusted at the reports

Those young men are absolutely fundamental to our future and as a good friend of mine told me years ago, "When you lose the fundamental, you lose the argument".

Agree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 25, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
Sorry Kickhams my post was for the attention of Bannside.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2017, 06:23:07 PM
Someone can't work the quote function !! Hogan Stand stuff!

Brendan that's positive stuff...plenty coverage of it and well done to all who attended and dug deep into their pockets.


I'm sure after a while the meals will become more available and we can start to win Ulster titles again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2017, 09:54:27 AM
some good points made, and encouraging to see suggestion son how to move forward and manage funds.

My two pence worth would be that short term:

1) Appoint a proper experienced manager with the credentials and intercounty CV  - we need to make the most out of what we have until long terms development plans come to fruition) and high risk appointments aren't working currently

2) End the vagabond nature of the team and get an approved central ground - not just one that changes after each manager.  Build a concrete standing terrace in Toome (no roof) - central location, plenty of exit routes, is within a population settlement, hotel for pre or post match meals/drink, plenty of parking, in a hotbed of GAA in Antrim and will attract a crowd for league games - JUST until this casement debacle is sorted. Low cost but quick return. Give the team and county a base to operate from,  plus it gets revenue up. Corrigan isn't attracting the crowds at all. Toome would ideally be trying to safely hold a county championship game (but that may require two stands).  Could be approved, through planning and built before the county club final - will show real intent that the county is moving forward.

3) Start a process of pride and recognition in the county. half the team is unknown and there appears to be a serious lack of pride in playing for antrim - it is not the ultimate goal for footballers unlike the other counties. its a 'nice to have' at the moment.

4) The business support is critical - we need to show that business men who are putting their money into Antrim are getting a benefit out of it - exposure, using their products, highlighting their products etc etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on May 26, 2017, 10:05:59 AM
Hard to fathom the decision to commit to building what has been built at Dunsilly  :-\

A one trick donkey of a facility when you consider all the restrictions in regard to parking, access, facilities
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2017, 10:32:43 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 26, 2017, 10:05:59 AM
Hard to fathom the decision to commit to building what has been built at Dunsilly  :-\

A one trick donkey of a facility when you consider all the restrictions in regard to parking, access, facilities

Look it was a great idea in principle but the delivery and short-sightedness of it was terrible.  Owen Beg appears to have been a great success for Derry (training venue and championship venue) but doesn't appear to suit the neutral championship viewers like south derry did and detracts revenue from the criminal misuse of celtic park - alongside casement as a white elephant.   Antrim need a 'venue & Experience', Toome offers it and is central to the hardened antrim fans and there are facilities and services for people to 'make a day of it'   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 26, 2017, 10:55:44 AM
Jeez how far is it from Milltown to Toome Spike..? :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2017, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 26, 2017, 10:55:44 AM
Jeez how far is it from Milltown to Toome Spike..? :)

I would refer you to Einstein's Theory of Relativity  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
once they widen the road to Toome it will be easier to get to than Casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2017, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
once they widen the road to Toome it will be easier to get to than Casement

Easily got to now - Very few matches played at 8am or 5pm in Toome
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on May 29, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
link?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on May 29, 2017, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: ned on May 29, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
link?

https://thesaffrongael.com/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: ned on May 29, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
link?

Sorry ned, thought I stuck it in..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 29, 2017, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on May 29, 2017, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: ned on May 29, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
link?

https://thesaffrongael.com/

That is absolutely fantastic

The Co Antrim Post was fantastic and is a huge miss for local gaa coverage

Good luck with this Curly.

Love seeing pictures of boys like Charlie Devlin coming on for Creggan in Div 1 aged 35 or more. Some servants throughout our county

Some of those st pauls men must be near if not already aged 40 and still playing div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2017, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: ned on May 29, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
link?

Sorry ned, thought I stuck it in..
Think Gall's winning at Creggan was a bit of a shock PJ.....and Curly's venture looks a hit👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 29, 2017, 09:25:25 PM
Yeah good luck to Curly but seems to be the way that everyone setting something up now has the hand out in the way of crowd funding, does nobody paddle their own canoe anymore ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 09:32:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 29, 2017, 09:25:25 PM
Yeah good luck to Curly but seems to be the way that everyone setting something up now has the hand out in the way of crowd funding, does nobody paddle their own canoe anymore ?

I wouldn't mind paying a subscription for it. Sure you'd paid £6 per week for local papers for purely GAA coverage when you bought the CAP, Chronicle and Irish news.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2017, 09:39:57 PM
Brilliant initiative Curly. This deserves to be well supported and at the very least provide Curly with a regular steady income.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on May 30, 2017, 07:45:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: ned on May 29, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 29, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
No shocks at all in any of the league games over the weekend.

I see Curly McIlwaine has started a new website covering Antrim GAA, looks to be a good job.
link?

Sorry ned, thought I stuck it in..

No worries. Thanks Mochara.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on May 30, 2017, 11:48:59 AM
Good luck to Curly and Paddy on this, it definitely needs supported by us all.

Just look at the first few days already and how the coverage is even better than it was in the local papers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 05, 2017, 09:15:10 AM
Great win for Aghagallon yesterday and have certainly hit the ground running in Div 1 and will only continue to improve with this young team when they get a year in the division.  Nice to see St Johns sitting top, had a lot of very good young players over the last few years and always the worry that it can stop there. 

In div 2 Ballymena are making heavy work of getting straight back up - always a very competitive league and few games can be taken for granted apart from Antrim and Ardoyne of course who are struggling like many thought they would.  Also Rasharkin seem to have carried the momentum from the end of last season through into this campaign and are answering doubts I had about them though came heavily unstuck yesterday.  Dunloy though not kicking on as I had hoped they might.

As for div 3 - what is going on with Glenravel - a lot of weeks ago looked like they were going to storm it - heavy defeat to OD's yesterday after having taken a big loss at home to Sarsfields means OD's now breathing down their necks and with momentum shift could find themselves in the unthinkable position of staying in Div 3 another year - and a weak Div 3 compared to previous years at that.  Surely Sarsfields are nearly home and hosed now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on June 05, 2017, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 05, 2017, 09:15:10 AM
Great win for Aghagallon yesterday and have certainly hit the ground running in Div 1 and will only continue to improve with this young team when they get a year in the division.  Nice to see St Johns sitting top, had a lot of very good young players over the last few years and always the worry that it can stop there. 

In div 2 Ballymena are making heavy work of getting straight back up - always a very competitive league and few games can be taken for granted apart from Antrim and Ardoyne of course who are struggling like many thought they would.  Also Rasharkin seem to have carried the momentum from the end of last season through into this campaign and are answering doubts I had about them though came heavily unstuck yesterday.  Dunloy though not kicking on as I had hoped they might.

As for div 3 - what is going on with Glenravel - a lot of weeks ago looked like they were going to storm it - heavy defeat to OD's yesterday after having taken a big loss at home to Sarsfields means OD's now breathing down their necks and with momentum shift could find themselves in the unthinkable position of staying in Div 3 another year - and a weak Div 3 compared to previous years at that.  Surely Sarsfields are nearly home and hosed now?

Can't really add anything to this but thanks for the summary. Invaluable to exiles like me. 🇮🇪👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on June 05, 2017, 02:55:13 PM
Bad day at the office for our men yesterday, although id have to say the end margin wasn't a true reflection on the game.

Brigid's however good value for the win and fully deserved.

Division 2 hugely competitive and it will interesting to see who makes their way to Division 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 05, 2017, 04:49:15 PM
disappointing lose for us yday. Didnt get to the game but was chatting to the fellas who did and they thought that they were more than capable to winning it but fair play to Glenavy.

Age old bother for us of not getting all the players there at one time. Be interesting to see if we actually ever did get them all out at one time to see how we would fare. tough game on weds night at home to Randalstown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 05, 2017, 05:09:20 PM
Aye said it many times. Dunloy massive potential but never seem to max out on the football side of things. Wed nights opponents on the other hand seem to have a habit of punching above their weight so I will be interested to see the outcome of that one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
So Sligo away then - how many times in the last number of years have we had a home tie in the qualifiers?  Did we not even get drawn at home to Fermanagh a couple of years ago abut then because of some rule have to play away.  What way does this work anyway if there are rules that can change a venue in terms of home away status yet we keep playing away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
And to add to my confusion Derry have been drawn at home to Waterford but must play away at Fraher Field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on June 06, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
And to add to my confusion Derry have been drawn at home to Waterford but must play away at Fraher Field.

If two teams are pulled out to play each other and one has played at home in the championship and one has played away then the team that hasn't played at home yet will be given home advantage for the qualifier game.

if both team have played at home/away - the team that was pulled out first will get home advantage.

Eg - Derry were pulled out first, then Waterford. However in their previous championship games Derry were at home to Tyrone and Waterford were away to Cork. Meaning Waterford now have home advantage.

And as a Derry man I now have 10hours of driving ahead of me to watch the match  :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: toby47 on June 06, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
And to add to my confusion Derry have been drawn at home to Waterford but must play away at Fraher Field.

If two teams are pulled out to play each other and one has played at home in the championship and one has played away then the team that hasn't played at home yet will be given home advantage for the qualifier game.

if both team have played at home/away - the team that was pulled out first will get home advantage.

Eg - Derry were pulled out first, then Waterford. However in their previous championship games Derry were at home to Tyrone and Waterford were away to Cork. Meaning Waterford now have home advantage.

And as a Derry man I now have 10hours of driving ahead of me to watch the match  :o :o

Thanks for that Toby.  Antrim have just had a horrendous run of luck then over the last number of years having only had one home draw in Ulster Championship since 2010 and regularly drawing teams in qualifiers away that are eligible for a home tie in said qualifier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on June 06, 2017, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: toby47 on June 06, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
And to add to my confusion Derry have been drawn at home to Waterford but must play away at Fraher Field.

If two teams are pulled out to play each other and one has played at home in the championship and one has played away then the team that hasn't played at home yet will be given home advantage for the qualifier game.

if both team have played at home/away - the team that was pulled out first will get home advantage.

Eg - Derry were pulled out first, then Waterford. However in their previous championship games Derry were at home to Tyrone and Waterford were away to Cork. Meaning Waterford now have home advantage.

And as a Derry man I now have 10hours of driving ahead of me to watch the match  :o :o

Thanks for that Toby.  Antrim have just had a horrendous run of luck then over the last number of years having only had one home draw in Ulster Championship since 2010 and regularly drawing teams in qualifiers away that are eligible for a home tie in said qualifier.


One home draw in 7 years is horrible luck.

You'd also imagine with the home advantage system in the Qualifiers you would have had a few more home games however it doesn't always work like that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 06, 2017, 11:33:06 AM
Disappointed with the draw. Fair enough to get Sligo, we beat them in the league, but another away game. 😞
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 11:47:47 AM
I actually managed to erase from my memory that we had Limerick at home last year in the qualifiers (probably for obvious reasons).

But before that in qualifiers we had 2 away games in 2015, 1 away in 2014, 1 away in 2013, 1 home and 2 away in 2012 and 3 at home in 2011.

So all in, last 7 years we have had 5 home championship games and 12 away and that is sugar coated by 2011 which if you remove we have had 2 home and 11 away in last 6 years.  Or put another way we have had 1 home championship game since 2013.

Ah well, luck of the draw as they say but god knows we could do with all the help we can get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on June 06, 2017, 01:31:56 PM
Very pleasantly surprised to see our U12s match review (against Cargin Friday night) appear on the new Saffron Gael website.  Pity about the result, but more of this sort of thing!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on June 06, 2017, 01:31:56 PM
Very pleasantly surprised to see our U12s match review (against Cargin Friday night) appear on the new Saffron Gael website.  Pity about the result, but more of this sort of thing!!!

Somebody has raised the donation button on the page a few days back.  From what I see of this site so far it is well worth donating to, the coverage is extensive and for me would be a better stop than going out and buying papers.  Also the reality is to go out and get this level of coverage would come at a certain cost be it fuel, equipment or simply time.  Certainly it has started off well and I am not surprised given the amount of photographs I have seen in recent years on Facebook from said photographer it is clear there is a real genuine love of the game as opposed to a business venture driving the whole thing on.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 06, 2017, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on June 06, 2017, 01:31:56 PM
Very pleasantly surprised to see our U12s match review (against Cargin Friday night) appear on the new Saffron Gael website.  Pity about the result, but more of this sort of thing!!!

Somebody has raised the donation button on the page a few days back.  From what I see of this site so far it is well worth donating to, the coverage is extensive and for me would be a better stop than going out and buying papers.  Also the reality is to go out and get this level of coverage would come at a certain cost be it fuel, equipment or simply time.  Certainly it has started off well and I am not surprised given the amount of photographs I have seen in recent years on Facebook from said photographer it is clear there is a real genuine love of the game driving the whole thing on.  Keep up the good work.

I've been at a load of functions both GAA and non GAA that Curly has been at and he always talks GAA. The man is GAA in the brain and I know from speaking to people from Glenravel, he played a massive role in their centenary book.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on June 06, 2017, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: toby47 on June 06, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
And to add to my confusion Derry have been drawn at home to Waterford but must play away at Fraher Field.

If two teams are pulled out to play each other and one has played at home in the championship and one has played away then the team that hasn't played at home yet will be given home advantage for the qualifier game.

if both team have played at home/away - the team that was pulled out first will get home advantage.

Eg - Derry were pulled out first, then Waterford. However in their previous championship games Derry were at home to Tyrone and Waterford were away to Cork. Meaning Waterford now have home advantage.

And as a Derry man I now have 10hours of driving ahead of me to watch the match  :o :o

Thats not correct - the criteria is:
The first team drawn out will be given home advantage in most circumstances.

If the two teams met already in their province this year, the winner of that provincial championship game will have home advantage.

Also, if a county did not have a home game in the first round of the qualifier series in 2016 they will have a home tie this time around. If two such counties are drawn together the first team out of the bowl will play at home.

Waterford were away to Leitrim in the 1st round qualifiers last year, Derry were at home to Louth so its a home game for Waterford this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 06, 2017, 10:57:25 PM
We can beat Sligo

I may stay the night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 07, 2017, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 06, 2017, 10:57:25 PM
We can beat Sligo

I may stay the night

Funny my brother made the same suggestion this afternoon. Could be a lively night in the town.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
Booked into the Raddison Blu out near Rosses Point. Hoping to celebrate a victory then on to Clones on Sunday morning to cheer on our minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 07, 2017, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on June 06, 2017, 01:31:56 PM
Very pleasantly surprised to see our U12s match review (against Cargin Friday night) appear on the new Saffron Gael website.  Pity about the result, but more of this sort of thing!!!

Somebody has raised the donation button on the page a few days back.  From what I see of this site so far it is well worth donating to, the coverage is extensive and for me would be a better stop than going out and buying papers.  Also the reality is to go out and get this level of coverage would come at a certain cost be it fuel, equipment or simply time.  Certainly it has started off well and I am not surprised given the amount of photographs I have seen in recent years on Facebook from said photographer it is clear there is a real genuine love of the game as opposed to a business venture driving the whole thing on.  Keep up the good work.

its a great job and one that i think will only help to promote our games in antrim. Social media is massive for the younger ones involved in the game and they thrive on seeing match reports and pictures from their games.

I do all the stuff on our social media and webpage and will be sending stuff to curly for his site as well. I make the match day posters as well for the club and the county camogie teams when i can get time so as i say, anything i can do to promote the games im happy to help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2017, 12:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 06, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Somebody has raised the donation button on the page a few days back.  From what I see of this site so far it is well worth donating to, the coverage is extensive and for me would be a better stop than going out and buying papers.  Also the reality is to go out and get this level of coverage would come at a certain cost be it fuel, equipment or simply time.  Certainly it has started off well and I am not surprised given the amount of photographs I have seen in recent years on Facebook from said photographer it is clear there is a real genuine love of the game as opposed to a business venture driving the whole thing on.  Keep up the good work.

+1
Serious love and passion for our games from the men involved. Its a no brainer for any GAA man or women to support them and their efforts which benefits us all.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!

Could you not of done something with the rain though? I was soaked to the skin!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!

Could you not of done something with the rain though? I was soaked to the skin!!

We started at 10am (or just after) the rain and I mean buckets of it with hailstones came on the final 3 minutes of the final!!! It was awful....up to that point the sun was blazing and my head was burnt off me!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!

Could you not of done something with the rain though? I was soaked to the skin!!

We started at 10am (or just after) the rain and I mean buckets of it with hailstones came on the final 3 minutes of the final!!! It was awful....up to that point the sun was blazing and my head was burnt off me!

I wasn't prepared for it anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!

Could you not of done something with the rain though? I was soaked to the skin!!

Our youngsters had a great day out, one of the better tournaments about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!

Could you not of done something with the rain though? I was soaked to the skin!!

Our youngsters had a great day out, one of the better tournaments about.

Yeah same here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2017, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271321


Not only an issue in Antrim the lack of food..  ;)

Sad times indeed......

Not even a customary pint afterwards!!

To be fair I did the clubs annual Pat Sheehan tournament (which was a great success, as usual) and the club do a barbaque which at the break i received a double cheese burger with fried onions!!! was flipping torture though for about an hour before hand as the smell of the burgers was gorgeous.. So well done the the club, free food and 2 pints in the pump!!

Now if there wasnt food I'd have went to the shop and bought some!

Could you not of done something with the rain though? I was soaked to the skin!!

Our youngsters had a great day out, one of the better tournaments about.

Yous normally do well at it, Cushendall lads were a step up this year from most years, I cant remember them doing as well at that age group
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 03:00:28 PM

Anyone know when the prelim/first round of club football championship scheduled for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 15, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf

Cheers

Leagues all done and dusted before championship? great, def the way to go, none of the 2 farcical games we've had last few years where 1 team still training and other not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 15, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 15, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf

Cheers

Leagues all done and dusted before championship? great, def the way to go, none of the 2 farcical games we've had last few years where 1 team still training and other not

Why would a team stop training before championship if the league has finished?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2017, 12:16:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 15, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 15, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf

Cheers

Leagues all done and dusted before championship? great, def the way to go, none of the 2 farcical games we've had last few years where 1 team still training and other not

Why would a team stop training before championship if the league has finished?

Think he is referring to one team already knocked out of the championship playing a team who may still be in it, in a dead rubber league game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 15, 2017, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2017, 12:16:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 15, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 15, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf

Cheers

Leagues all done and dusted before championship? great, def the way to go, none of the 2 farcical games we've had last few years where 1 team still training and other not

Why would a team stop training before championship if the league has finished?

Think he is referring to one team already knocked out of the championship playing a team who may still be in it, in a dead rubber league game.

My bad...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 15, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
Yeah need to enforce leagues getting cleared up before championship with the only potential exceptions being dead rubbers for both sides involved.  Far too much jiggery pokery has gone on down the years with the worst recent example being GNM and St Teresa's playing out a draw to ensure one promoted and the other avoids relegation.  Clubs should be made fulfil all fixtures unless there is a very good reason and a good reason is not some of the ones that have been used in the past from too many games to play across both codes, players going on holiday, stag parties etc etc etc all clubs get a list of fixtures at the beginning of the season and if they cannot work with this then suck it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 16, 2017, 08:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2017, 12:16:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 15, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 15, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 14, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: jdyok on June 14, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf

Cheers

Leagues all done and dusted before championship? great, def the way to go, none of the 2 farcical games we've had last few years where 1 team still training and other not

Why would a team stop training before championship if the league has finished?

Think he is referring to one team already knocked out of the championship playing a team who may still be in it, in a dead rubber league game.

Yes thats what i was referring, typed in a hurry maybe the point was lost! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on June 16, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
First Post  - thoughts on Antrim chances against Sligo?

Wish them all the best but not hopeful at all

Murrays back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 16, 2017, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on June 16, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
First Post  - thoughts on Antrim chances against Sligo?

Wish them all the best but not hopeful at all

Murrays back?

We have a chance but like you I would not be deadly optimistic as games in the past where we have felt we have a chance we end up on the wrong end to about the tune of 6 pts as opposed to some of the games in qualifiers where we have been totally written off we have went out and won - last year or Galway a few years back for example.

Maybe best hope is if Sligo think they have a handy tie but I would doubt it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2017, 12:49:36 PM
Welcome LG.

I think we have a good chance. Expect it to be competitive and a point or two either way the most likely outcome. Hopefully we can come out the right side of the result. Good luck to all involved.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on June 18, 2017, 10:29:17 PM
Whats the grand plan now lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 18, 2017, 10:59:59 PM
😔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 19, 2017, 11:21:00 AM
Sligo used 7 subs apparently.. grounds for appeal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 19, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
Has to be. Same thing happened last year with Armagh vs Laois, made them to replay game.

Back to Sligo this Saturday I would say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on June 19, 2017, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 19, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
Has to be. Same thing happened last year with Armagh vs Laois, made them to replay game.

Back to Sligo this Saturday I would say

Midweek games called off then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 19, 2017, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 19, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
Has to be. Same thing happened last year with Armagh vs Laois, made them to replay game.

Back to Sligo this Saturday I would say
Same as but rule is Sligo out......Armagh offered replay in 2016 :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 19, 2017, 11:56:19 AM
Ao...we would move on to play Meath? CCC or whomever would need to make a quick decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 19, 2017, 12:39:39 PM
Well that wee bit of hope didn't last too long....

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0619/883871-substitution-sligo/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dash83 on June 19, 2017, 12:41:03 PM
http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/TheGAA/RulesandRegulations/13/79/78/GAAOfficialGuide2017_Part1_Neutral.pdf

Page 125. Forfeit, reply or fine depending on circumstances. I can't see any further explanation on 'circumstances' though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 20, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
See Fitzy and Gearoid up for another year....fair play to them I say......who else would take it on ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 20, 2017, 03:36:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 20, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
See Fitzy and Gearoid up for another year....fair play to them I say......who else would take it on ?

Can't see there being much appetite around the county for it, does it open the debate to bringing in an outside gaffer and spending a pound or 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on June 20, 2017, 04:01:04 PM
Seems the appetite needs to change with the players according to this:

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=271910

I always wondered why a county like Antrim haven't ever challenged in my lifetime in Ulster (bar 2009). 
Most teams hit some sort of form and are competing for a few years before they fade but they seem to hover around the lower teams permanently.  I wouldn't know a great deal about their team or structures, but do they not have the players, the attitude/belief or what?   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on June 21, 2017, 11:33:37 AM
Antrim County lack ambition as a whole - seems to start at county board level and filters right through to the actual players.

2009 and few years after that proved that Antrim have the players to compete with most teams bar the top bracket.

I honestly feel if the county board showed ambition and put together a structured management team with a proven manager that has a goal for Antrim we would see a massive difference.

Unfortunately i feel it lies with the county board and until they show the ambition needed to compete, Antrim will find themselves were the deserve to be - the worst team in Ulster and in the lowest league in the NFL

Unfortunately Fitzy and Adams arent the answer and before taking the Antrim job would have struggled to get a top club team in Antrim never mind a County Job.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 21, 2017, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on June 21, 2017, 11:33:37 AM
Antrim County lack ambition as a whole - seems to start at county board level and filters right through to the actual players.

2009 and few years after that proved that Antrim have the players to compete with most teams bar the top bracket.

I honestly feel if the county board showed ambition and put together a structured management team with a proven manager that has a goal for Antrim we would see a massive difference.

Unfortunately i feel it lies with the county board and until they show the ambition needed to compete, Antrim will find themselves were the deserve to be - the worst team in Ulster and in the lowest league in the NFL

Unfortunately Fitzy and Adams arent the answer and before taking the Antrim job would have struggled to get a top club team in Antrim never mind a County Job.

Holy smokes.... a spade is a spade, but don't slag off the county oul hand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 21, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
seen this letter that was wrote by a Leitrim footballer after their exit from the championship. I think it prob sums up how alot of other counties feel each year after playing two games a season.
Hi

As the dust settles on another humiliating defeat for Leitrim in the Championship one wonders where do we go from here.

From the top of my head I think we have won 8 championship games in the last 16 years. London x2, New York x 3, Sligo, (Wicklow and Waterford in the qualifiers). Beyond that, other than victories over London and New York, which don't really count, we've won two Connacht championship games in the 23 years since we won the Connacht title in 1994.

With a population of 33,000 (the same population as Castleknock) and 12 senior club teams, how can we compete in the same championship as the superpowers of Dublin, Kerry, Mayo etc.?

It's a sad state of affairs and until the media start highlighting this stuff in articles and podcasts, nothing will be done. The powers that be just seem to throw the carpet over the likes of Leitrim, Wicklow, Waterford, Carlow etc..

I have read a few articles today in the media saying that this year's championship is up and running and we are in store for a great summer's football, but on the flip side there is a bunch of teams whose summer is over and year on year it's the same old story. It would be great if you could highlight this in the media and hopefully get people talking about this. Hopefully restructuring the championship could bring a bit of joy to Leitrim and many other supporters around the country again.

Rant over.....

Regards,

i dont think it will be too long before we see qualifiers taking place in a group stage rather than the two tiered structure. its the only thing thats going to give counties like ourselves or leitrim etc a real chance of getting more games.

The hurling has got it right and continue to tweak it to try and improve it and the no of teams competing each season for the top honours. If we dont change the current structure counties like antrim etc will get farther and farther into obscurity in terms of competing with the top counties.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 21, 2017, 02:49:45 PM
In fairness the hurling structures on the face of it don't seem to have done much for Antrim either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
With regard to blaming the "county board" it has to be said that Fitzy and Adams were not their appointment. They are the remnants of Jim Murrays tenure. So we will see for the first time what kind of ambition the board have for trying to deliver a plan for football that will at least deliver us out of the lower two divisions thst we regularly yo yo between, and offer us respectability.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 21, 2017, 03:35:28 PM
you must know something then, seeing your close connections with Saffron Vision?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 21, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 21, 2017, 02:49:45 PM
In fairness the hurling structures on the face of it don't seem to have done much for Antrim either.

what it does show is that we are at the level we deserve to be at. Were on par with the likes of Westmeath, Carlow etc and imo the new championship format for next season gives Antrim more games at a level they can compete at rather than playing teams we are never going to get a result again. The more games we get the more it can only improve us.

Its better than losing 2 games each year and the season over before Junes ended.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 21, 2017, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
With regard to blaming the "count
y board" it has to be said that Fitzy and Adams were not their appointment. They are the remnants of Jim Murrays tenure. So we will see for the first time what kind of ambition the board have for trying to deliver a plan for football that will at least deliver us out of the lower two divisions thst we regularly yo yo between, and offer us respectability.
Afraid the buck just does stop at the top BS...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
I'm afraid I don't see it that way at all AQMP.

This might be hypothetical, but I honestly 100%honestly do belive that if Malachy O Rourke stepped up tomorrow to take Antrim Football, we would be in division two in a couple or three years.

For God's sake we were a kick of the ball off Louth and Tipp in the league, and they are now div 2. And only a missed CJ penalty from chinning Armagh who were third placed. All this away from home.

So don't tell me either that an improved set up we couldn't make those kind of yards. We have the players but it's going to take a good set up to get them out. The challenge is to find that set up, management team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
Banty Mc Eneaney took a Monaghan team from Division 4 to Division 1 in three seasons, just a few years ago. Nothing impossible with a bit of organisation and support in the right places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on June 21, 2017, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
I'm afraid I don't see it that way at all AQMP.

This might be hypothetical, but I honestly 100%honestly do belive that if Malachy O Rourke stepped up tomorrow to take Antrim Football, we would be in division two in a couple or three years.

For God's sake we were a kick of the ball off Louth and Tipp in the league, and they are now div 2. And only a missed CJ penalty from chinning Armagh who were third placed. All this away from home.

So don't tell me either that an improved set up we couldn't make those kind of yards. We have the players but it's going to take a good set up to get them out. The challenge is to find that set up, management team.

Where is the evidence we have "the players" ?

Can't always be the managements fault
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 22, 2017, 11:05:19 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 21, 2017, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
I'm afraid I don't see it that way at all AQMP.

This might be hypothetical, but I honestly 100%honestly do belive that if Malachy O Rourke stepped up tomorrow to take Antrim Football, we would be in division two in a couple or three years.

For God's sake we were a kick of the ball off Louth and Tipp in the league, and they are now div 2. And only a missed CJ penalty from chinning Armagh who were third placed. All this away from home.

So don't tell me either that an improved set up we couldn't make those kind of yards. We have the players but it's going to take a good set up to get them out. The challenge is to find that set up, management team.

Where is the evidence we have "the players" ?

Can't always be the managements fault
Indeed.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
In the past I have been guilty of being openly critical of managers, but in recent years I have tried to be much more balanced  and I'm sure a trawl through my posts will see that I have been mainly supportive of Fitzy during his tenure. And I also recognise the huge personal effort he has put into Antrim Football at minor and u-21 before that.

Am I out of order in offering my opinion that I think it's time for a fresh leadership and back that up by saying if the process is opened up I think there would be genuine interest in the position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on June 22, 2017, 06:22:45 PM
Delargy you are a complete slabber anyone from the county board that takes any notice of you needs their heads looked at are anyone else for that matter head case Fitzy is doing his very best with what he's got players in your own club just didn't turn up focus your negativity on them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2017, 06:35:46 PM
Wise up Clover its only one opinion. Im happy to allow the normal democratic process take place and go with the outcome. If the  board see fit to reappoint Fitzy and Gearoid I will support them. As for the players I will let them make up their own minds.

Personally I think the players will benefit from a fresh voice, as long as that voice has a credible CV. That Ok?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2017, 06:47:12 PM
Clover just had a wee look at some of your posts there. Glad to know I have a fan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 22, 2017, 07:01:52 PM
The same democratic process you disputed a few years ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2017, 07:06:21 PM
Bullshit. I strongly advocated our management committee needed freshened up. How did I dispute any democratic process???

Now this will be interesting?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 22, 2017, 07:09:03 PM
The appointment of Fitzy? If memory serves me right the former county chairman asked you to leave the room after a heated arguement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2017, 08:05:17 PM
Ah that night Stillwater!

Well firstly I wasnt asked to leave the room, that needs to be corrected. I was told to sit down and refrain from speaking because of some rule which may or may not have been true, that if a club changed their delegate to CC at least two hours notice needed to be given. If thats true then fair enough. But many experienced club delegates were telling me to stay on my feet because they were sceptical about whether or not that rule actually existed. So I dont know whether the democratic process was upheld or hindered.

You are also technically wrong on a second point. It wasnt Fitzys appointment. It was Bakers reappointment. And I wanted to ask a few questions, particularly whether or not oldco would once again turn a blind eye to Baker taking a club team as well as our county team. Plus one or two other queries I had about the due process.

Then a vote was taken. Now that was a laugh! About a quarter of the delegates supported the boards recommendation, the rest kept their hands down. And secretary declared the result. And you want to remind me about democracy?

But...dont let the truth get in the way of a good story!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 23, 2017, 10:13:15 PM
Wasn't it Dawson's re appointment? Which was a total botch job whichever way you looked at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2017, 07:47:16 PM
It was definitely Bakers reappointment Brendan. Regards Dawson, at the time I was actually ok with it thinking he was coming in on a joint ticket with John Rafferty. But yes that was another very disappointing managerial performance. He got dogs abuse on here too, but there have been lots of equally disappointing days since that haven't had anywhere near the same level of negative comments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 24, 2017, 09:37:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 24, 2017, 07:47:16 PM
It was definitely Bakers reappointment Brendan. Regards Dawson, at the time I was actually ok with it thinking he was coming in on a joint ticket with John Rafferty. But yes that was another very disappointing managerial performance. He got dogs abuse on here too, but there have been lots of equally disappointing days since that haven't had anywhere near the same level of negative comments.

Name me a worse performance than Roscommon in the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
Yes that was a low point PJ, in Casement. Remember it well and Dawson running up the steps after to do a radio interview. I'd have found a hole and wouldn't have crawled out of it for a week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 25, 2017, 01:23:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 24, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
Yes that was a low point PJ, in Casement. Remember it well and Dawson running up the steps after to do a radio interview. I'd have found a hole and wouldn't have crawled out of it for a week.

Worst game I ever witnessed in my life in Casement BS. You're a better man than me, I wouldn't of crawled back out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 25, 2017, 01:23:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 24, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
Yes that was a low point PJ, in Casement. Remember it well and Dawson running up the steps after to do a radio interview. I'd have found a hole and wouldn't have crawled out of it for a week.

Worst game I ever witnessed in my life in Casement BS. You're a better man than me, I wouldn't of crawled back out!

You obviously haven't seen too many games over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2017, 09:19:33 AM
Were you at it? Definitely the worst i have ever seen too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2017, 09:52:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2017, 09:19:33 AM
Were you at it? Definitely the worst i have ever seen too.

Clubman taking Antrim? At Casement? Course... but I remember a game must have been 89 ish minor team I think beat Fermanagh and the seniors had best opportunity to put to bed the dreadful run of first round defeats that they had which stretched back a right few years, my dad drove down cause I tortured him to and we got bate out the gate by a poor enough Fermanagh side, and this was way before negative football tactics were used, we just were shit! So be it that match or Dawson's reign unfortunately they just crap for long periods... the odd blip (2009) seems to confuse people and we believe we are higher than we are..

We beat Donegal, who later went on to win and challenge for All irelands, we challenge for div 4 league honours every two years.... it doesn't matter who we put in charge we continued to produce the same results... now is it a manager/player/county board thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2017, 10:12:47 AM
You are straying a little bit off topic. That game was a bad as I have ever seen. The lack of tactics, shape, ability from some players etc just seemed to be at absolute rock bottom that day - even for our standards.

We could all list bad days and say that is where we are and we are not world beaters but that game for me was still the worst ever. We will not win championships but as per down last night showing that sense of pride and being the best you can be is what you aspire to. Nothing that day was to be aspired to!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2017, 11:03:19 AM
The topic is Antrim football, and at the minute listing games were we are devoid of tactics application drive  heart attitude, I could pick out plenty... looking back won't make us a better team, we've not kicked on or improved or learnt any lessons ....

A proper blue print needs to be made and agreed to by all involved, don't expect immediate results but progression, this needs to be done at school and club level first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2017, 11:40:20 AM
It is very hard to know what is needed. I have been going to games for a long long time and the old adage it's the hope that kills you stands true. You are not wrong in that it doesn't seem to have got much better in that time. I still think we do produce some very good footballers in the county but probably just not enough of them. There is a phD in it somewhere I reckon.

As an antrim supporter there have been some grim days but the roscommon one is one of the grimmest I have seen. It will not make us a better team talking about it but nor will much of the drivel spouted by any of us on this forum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 25, 2017, 01:17:26 PM
I can sympathise with your view re that Roscommon game. We were scoreless at half time I think? It was indeed a low point and yet it came after a win v Cavan and an entertaining draw v Fermanagh in a game which featured a Sean McVeigh goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2017, 03:22:55 PM
I agree too we need a structured plan, and yes too, we need a strong platform at schools level. We need a strong Belfast too. We need support from business community....and so on and on.

We've had different reports in the past (O Hara etc) as well as nice looking strategic plans. And actually it surprising how much of it has actually been delivered. But whilst we make baby steps others are making strides. So it's going to take a big top down led plan that football people in the county can buy into and ultimately take ownership of.

Now in saying all that.....I still think a Credible management team with a PROVEN CV, will attract 30 of our better footballers, and I have faith that within this dynamic we have sufficient quality you get into Division two within a few years. Think Louth and Tipp for goodness sake. That's where they are. Does anyone really think with those ingredients in place we arnt as good as them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2017, 03:32:14 PM
Yes we aren't as good as tipp. They have underage ai titles. (Well maybe one but a lot of provincial underages titles in recent past) . Louth i wouldn't be so sure about with everything *right* but we do not have the players that tipp have. They were last year's ai semi finalists. We are light years away from anything close to that.

I admire your optimism bs but some realism needed too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 25, 2017, 05:06:38 PM
A Garvaghy type place would make a massive impact, coaching across all areas of Antrim (especially the Primary Schools), McCrory Cup football, more money put in by businesses (surely there is a rich business man who could back them), a big name management team, Casement sorted, strong leadership etc etc. So many things!! It's the same thing over and over every year.

Also, do Antrim sponsor Curly and his website? If not, then they definitely should. It's excellent. Even £100 a year from each club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 26, 2017, 11:46:31 AM
Pete McGrath apparently has a decision to make in whether to stay on in Fermanagh or not, we should make his decision a lot more difficult by lifting the phone and seeing would he be interested in the Antrim job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 26, 2017, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 25, 2017, 05:06:38 PM
A Garvaghy type place would make a massive impact, coaching across all areas of Antrim (especially the Primary Schools), McCrory Cup football, more money put in by businesses (surely there is a rich business man who could back them), a big name management team, Casement sorted, strong leadership etc etc. So many things!! It's the same thing over and over every year.

Also, does Antrim sponsor Curly and his website? If not, then they definitely should. It's excellent. Even £100 a year from each club.

I was in it earlier this year as we had a club friendly with a tyrone camogie club. What an unbelievable set up they have down there. The night we were there every single pitch was more or less being used by teams of varied ages, all 3 codes there.

A week later we were in Dunsilly for another pre-season game and it was just miles apart from each other. same goes a few weeks later for another game at Owenbeg.

Tbf were lucky we even have Dunsilly when you consider what a hash we have been in this past no of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 26, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
We have always lacked vision in our county....and seems we still have none :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2017, 09:32:52 PM
It's your county too CB. What would be your own vision for it? And when you have that list complete, just how would you propose to fund it?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 26, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 26, 2017, 09:32:52 PM
It's your county too CB. What would be your own vision for it? And when you have that list complete, just how would you propose to fund it?
We had a vision at Cargin long time back.....and where we led others followed BS......look at our facilites and how we made progress making full use of limited personnel in a small parish that includes two other units.
See ur club is looking to follow example.☺
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2017, 10:55:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 26, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 26, 2017, 09:32:52 PM
It's your county too CB. What would be your own vision for it? And when you have that list complete, just how would you propose to fund it?
We had a vision at Cargin long time back.....and where we led others followed BS......look at our facilites and how we made progress making full use of limited personnel in a small parish that includes two other units.
See ur club is looking to follow example.☺

Club or county you talking about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2017, 06:30:55 AM
The Cargin club model is admirable and yes, did lead the way in the SW, on and off the pitch. Credit that where it's due.

But MR2 is right, the question CB was drafted about your vision for the county! What changes would you make, what initiatives would you oversee if you were  in Collie Donnellys shoes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on June 28, 2017, 11:29:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 27, 2017, 06:30:55 AM
The Cargin club model is admirable and yes, did lead the way in the SW, on and off the pitch. Credit that where it's due.

But MR2 is right, the question CB was drafted about your vision for the county! What changes would you make, what initiatives would you oversee if you were  in Collie Donnellys shoes.

I would set-up a number of regional development centers for U7s up, organized to bring 3/4 local clubs together and then run a progressive technical skills development program - objective - lift the base skills quality of all the  clubs in Antrim

I would develop Toome as a SW county location, pull in temp stands (like the US stands e.g. Gaelic Park NY, Boston) - Great access, & parking, would be good atmosphere

Focus on league, work to get Antrim established as a Div 2/3 team instead of Div 3/4, then worry about championship

Work with all schools, try and get Antrim schools competitive at MacRory, McLarnon, and on down

Like Toome, invest in a county venue in Belfast, (short term investment)

Establish a county championship like in Kerry where we amalgamate clubs to play in the county championship. Run it for club players when the county players are non available (4 country teams and 5/6 city???. Create a bit of a buzz

Look at innovative fund raising, for example, businesses sponsor players, money goes to the county but in total players get increased funds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 29, 2017, 10:14:08 AM
I may be a bit biased but if your looking for a model then our own club is one which i honestly believe is one that works. We compete all 3 codes at every single level in the county and with regards to a club model i think we have gotten it nailed on 100% in terms of development both on and off the pitch.

We've a development committed for all 3 codes who meet on a regular basis within the club to look at what going on with regards to the teams and what they are doing, what new opportunities their are for them, how they can be improved, what fund raising they can do to help the individual codes.

Off the field there's another committee that looks after the development of the club as a whole. they are reasonable for looking for grants/funding, how and what type of money raising they can work on to obtain more finances, what way the grounds and facilities can be improved. We have planning permission for an outdoor 3G pitch similar to Creggans which will be put beside the Academy and upgrading the current flood lights so as games/training can be done in the dark.

This is all done by people, like me, who sit on committees and play/coach teams etc. all because we have one common goal - the betterment of our club and our future/current players to be the best in not only Antrim but Ireland.

I sound like im buming ourselves up but i personally believe we have got a good model and system in place in terms of developing all 3 codes in the club to try and make them successful and provide good facilities for the future of our club and county. Its no surprise that we won the minor county double last year as that group of players were one of the first set of kids to get the use of the Academy when it was opened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on June 29, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 29, 2017, 10:14:08 AM
I may be a bit biased but if your looking for a model then our own club is one which i honestly believe is one that works. We compete all 3 codes at every single level in the county and with regards to a club model i think we have gotten it nailed on 100% in terms of development both on and off the pitch.

We've a development committed for all 3 codes who meet on a regular basis within the club to look at what going on with regards to the teams and what they are doing, what new opportunities their are for them, how they can be improved, what fund raising they can do to help the individual codes.

Off the field there's another committee that looks after the development of the club as a whole. they are reasonable for looking for grants/funding, how and what type of money raising they can work on to obtain more finances, what way the grounds and facilities can be improved. We have planning permission for an outdoor 3G pitch similar to Creggans which will be put beside the Academy and upgrading the current flood lights so as games/training can be done in the dark.

This is all done by people, like me, who sit on committees and play/coach teams etc. all because we have one common goal - the betterment of our club and our future/current players to be the best in not only Antrim but Ireland.

I sound like im buming ourselves up but i personally believe we have got a good model and system in place in terms of developing all 3 codes in the club to try and make them successful and provide good facilities for the future of our club and county. Its no surprise that we won the minor county double last year as that group of players were one of the first set of kids to get the use of the Academy when it was opened.
Cutting through all the buming :), your message sounds like;
Structured integrated development process / model, ( Has this happened at county level, e.g. Does hurling, football and camogie meet to discuss coaching / development / performance. Does the county have we a talent map of kids for each calendar year and keeping an eye on their development. Does the county  keep an eye on schools etc)
Ongoing Facilities plan, what's next after Dunsilly?, short term plan for county grounds, long term plan (is Casement the answer for league games etc)
Fundraising, how can Antrim pull in more investment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2017, 04:33:07 PM
These models that have been put up so far are club models? Completely different I believe that's needed for a county model... CB is working one out I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 30, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
they are club models that have all worked and have proven to be more successful than anything our county has put in place. The fact our club sides have better facilities than the county set has shows that they could do well to look at these models and try and use it as a basis in which to enhance the county set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 30, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
they are club models that have all worked and have proven to be more successful than anything our county has put in place. The fact our club sides have better facilities than the county set has shows that they could do well to look at these models and try and use it as a basis in which to enhance the county set up.

The county have Dunsilly and Woodlands as training pitches.. they have development teams and coaches they have administration... the problem at the minute is getting something that will work for the county to prosper on the field...we are a county that puts club first and county last, we've never really had a united front, maybe 89 was the last time the county team and clubs bought into it... since then it's just been about looking after our own.

Getting the schools (primary level first) sorted is a must, soccer wasn't even played at any school I went to, now it's nearly the number one sport, how did that happen?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 30, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
i agree, the school are a must and we need to be in there promoting the 3 codes. to be fair theres a good approach being taken by a lot of the primary school in organising blitz's for the kids. I know my nephew has plenty in more this year than ever before and its great to see.

When i was a school (many years ago) we never lifted a hurl a primary school once. At secondary school in Ballymena we played hurling and football but it was seen as something that was in the road. We had to beg teachers personally to be allowed out of class to go and play a match and in many instances i was told by the teachers not a chance so missed games constantly.

We had generations of kids who never played at school or were encouraged to do so but its slowly getting much better. It must be improved on and made better to a point where we have schools competing in the macrory cup each season from Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on June 30, 2017, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 30, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
i agree, the school are a must and we need to be in there promoting the 3 codes. to be fair theres a good approach being taken by a lot of the primary school in organising blitz's for the kids. I know my nephew has plenty in more this year than ever before and its great to see.

When i was a school (many years ago) we never lifted a hurl a primary school once. At secondary school in Ballymena we played hurling and football but it was seen as something that was in the road. We had to beg teachers personally to be allowed out of class to go and play a match and in many instances i was told by the teachers not a chance so missed games constantly.

We had generations of kids who never played at school or were encouraged to do so but its slowly getting much better. It must be improved on and made better to a point where we have schools competing in the macrory cup each season from Antrim

My personal experience in school was different. Went to a school in Derry which in hindsight the PE group had a obvious focus on gaelic games. We had 4 hours of PE from 1st to 3rd year. 1st and 2nd years we spend about 80% on gaelic football, with each class consisting of about 1/2 coaching 1/2 games.
10% hurling and the rest on introducing other sports (basketball, athletics, rugby)

From 3rd year onwards it was more like 30% football, 10% hurling and 60% other sports.

6th years, Wednesday afternoons were sports, and the MacRory boys trained for 1.5 hours, (technical and tactics)

Other schools in Derry do the same, and this feed directly into the county

So schools are critical. I also know that Derry Co Board and minor management were in constant contact with the school
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on June 30, 2017, 05:30:17 PM
Schools are part of it but you have to appreciate the South Derry schools are in a football hotbed. If you go up to North Derry and  the City it is a different story. From my experience it all starts with the clubs. Unfortunately in Antrim we don't have enough clubs  with a quality well structured and disciplined underage setup. We have some who have decent setups, we have some who have the odd decent team here and there and we have some which are very poor. It requires years or hard work and lots of volunteers to buy into it to keep the conveyor belt flowing. The standard between Derry juvenile leagues and Antrim juvenile leagues is pretty wide. The best A teams in Antrim in general wouldn't win a game in the Derry A league (the odd exceptional team might).
This follows through in our performances in the Ulster Minor Championship. We get the odd decent result but we are not close to being competitive on a consistent basis although we have shown some improvement in recent years.
   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 02, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
For anyone interested. South West Football final day. At newly refurbished O Cahan Park , Portglenone.

5.30pm. Senior reserve final for the Mc Cormick cup.  Roger Casements v All Saints Ballymena.

7.00pm. Senior championship final for the O Cahan Cup. Erins Own Cargin v St Mary's Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 02:56:33 PM
Is that this evening Bannside?

You would think there would be two pretty clear winners there.  Aghagallon, unsurprisingly for me have had a good start in Div 1 but I would expect Cargin to come out on top.  Ballymena on the other hand have been surprisingly poor this season and should not trouble Portglenone.

And talking of the season - All to play for at both top and bottom of Div 1 - hopefully championship has as many competitors though Div 1 never a complete gauge.

Impressive stuff from Glenavy in Div 2 though massive game for them this weekend.  With the leagues splitting all to play for a top of Div 2.  As mentioned real danger Ballymena will not make top half which is a really poor show from a team with county footballers who have just come from Div 1.  Antrim and Ardoyne, everyones favourites to go down still have Davitts in their sights so will be interesting to see the outcome of the games involving these teams post split.

Div 3 done and dusted for Sarsfields but what can you say about Glenravel where the wheels appear to have come off completely and have been as big a disappointment as Ballymena in Div 2.  Not sure if anything else of note in that Div with no relegation.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2017, 03:58:47 PM
Those SW finals were yesterday Hectic. Your predictions were spot on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
Ha just realised that and came back to highlight my error.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 04:22:26 PM
What was your assessment of Ballymena anyway. Last season they would have fancied it against Portglenone. Just baffled at their struggles this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2017, 04:44:30 PM
I like to see All Saints do well...that was the club I played for and we had great times...before I moved to Portglenone. They are now struggling for numbers a bit at senior level but have a great crop of juveniles coming through if they can keep them involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
They had one particularly strong batch coming through. Have those boys hit minor yet or would they be at U17 now if such a group existed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on July 03, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Division 2 is a melting pot, All saints have a strong group and very good reserve team full of youngsters.
There's no big struggle there, they will be a threat come championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 06:07:23 PM
I did wonder Dreen are they focusing on Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 08:22:11 PM
Or is it you boys that play them so not accepting their form at face value  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 03, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
Casement's losing at St Teresa's tonite leaves the battle for 6th place in division one ongoing, and will depend on Sunday games....
Casement's face a tricky encounter at Aldergrove and Aghagallon visit Rossa.....to decide.

Hear a few shenanigans in hurling games over the week-end.........any truth in such rumours  ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 04, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
They had one particularly strong batch coming through. Have those boys hit minor yet or would they be at U17 now if such a group existed.
That would be their U14 feile team, they are now mostly U17. Next year they would be all Minor. well thats assuming they all are still there and playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 04, 2017, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 03, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
Casement's losing at St Teresa's tonite leaves the battle for 6th place in division one ongoing, and will depend on Sunday games....
Casement's face a tricky encounter at Aldergrove and Aghagallon visit Rossa.....to decide.

Hear a few shenanigans in hurling games over the week-end.........any truth in such rumours  ?

10 minutes a half now...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 04, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
They had one particularly strong batch coming through. Have those boys hit minor yet or would they be at U17 now if such a group existed.
That would be their U14 feile team, they are now mostly U17. Next year they would be all Minor. well thats assuming they all are still there and playing.

Thanks DR.  Yeah big challenge keeping boys at it and also big leaps in development from 14 to 18 that could see the dynamic change in terms of challengers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 04, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 04, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
They had one particularly strong batch coming through. Have those boys hit minor yet or would they be at U17 now if such a group existed.
That would be their U14 feile team, they are now mostly U17. Next year they would be all Minor. well thats assuming they all are still there and playing.

Thanks DR.  Yeah big challenge keeping boys at it and also big leaps in development from 14 to 18 that could see the dynamic change in terms of challengers.

that was a talented team they had and went on and won the all Ireland feile title. its not easy keeping a team like that together but they seem to have the most of them all playing still.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 04, 2017, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 04, 2017, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 03, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
Casement's losing at St Teresa's tonite leaves the battle for 6th place in division one ongoing, and will depend on Sunday games....
Casement's face a tricky encounter at Aldergrove and Aghagallon visit Rossa.....to decide.

Hear a few shenanigans in hurling games over the week-end.........any truth in such rumours  ?

10 minutes a half now...

Whats this all about then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 04, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 04, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
They had one particularly strong batch coming through. Have those boys hit minor yet or would they be at U17 now if such a group existed.
That would be their U14 feile team, they are now mostly U17. Next year they would be all Minor. well thats assuming they all are still there and playing.

Thanks DR.  Yeah big challenge keeping boys at it and also big leaps in development from 14 to 18 that could see the dynamic change in terms of challengers.

that was a talented team they had and went on and won the all Ireland feile title. its not easy keeping a team like that together but they seem to have the most of them all playing still.

Yeah though I suppose that level of success helps - should be eyeing a minor title then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on July 04, 2017, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 04, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 04, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 03, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
They had one particularly strong batch coming through. Have those boys hit minor yet or would they be at U17 now if such a group existed.
That would be their U14 feile team, they are now mostly U17. Next year they would be all Minor. well thats assuming they all are still there and playing.

Thanks DR.  Yeah big challenge keeping boys at it and also big leaps in development from 14 to 18 that could see the dynamic change in terms of challengers.

that was a talented team they had and went on and won the all Ireland feile title. its not easy keeping a team like that together but they seem to have the most of them all playing still.

Yeah though I suppose that level of success helps - should be eyeing a minor title then?

As you say Hectic a lot can change ....didn't win South West U16 last year   Cargin won SW ... St Brigids won All County
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 02:05:50 PM
Thing there is at u12, u14 you can have a strong batch a crucially a big number into their last year at a level - by the time they get to minor a 16 or 17 yr old may not be as out of their depth as they would be at U12 U14.  Plus of course lads develop at different rates etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 03:28:32 PM
When do the championships begin?  Plus what, if any, are the big ties in the first round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on July 04, 2017, 04:17:58 PM
All the information should be here...

http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 04, 2017, 06:08:40 PM
Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 07, 2017, 03:18:32 PM
Feis Cup final tonight over in Loughgiel. Dunloy v Rasharkin at 7:30pm

Should be a decent game if the rain stays away all evening. we have actually got a full panel to pick from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on July 10, 2017, 02:19:01 PM
Bit of a shock in Div 3 Football yest, with Lisburn beating Glenravel.

Leaves O Donnells to take 2nd position in the league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Yeah pretty poor stuff from Glenravel this year - I thought having won the Junior last year and entering a very weak Div 3 this year that they would be promoted easily and possibly as Champions.  Instead they are clearly going backwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 10, 2017, 04:36:40 PM
Casement's failing to get a top six finishing place in div one was a surprise.
Cargin have four games at home in the second phase and look favourites to retain the Eddie Fitz trophy ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 10, 2017, 06:48:15 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Yeah pretty poor stuff from Glenravel this year - I thought having won the Junior last year and entering a very weak Div 3 this year that they would be promoted easily and possibly as Champions.  Instead they are clearly going backwards.

Would you say that Glenravels season is...........................................unravelling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 10, 2017, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 10, 2017, 04:36:40 PM
Casement's failing to get a top six finishing place in div one was a surprise.
Cargin have four games at home in the second phase and look favourites to retain the Eddie Fitz trophy ???

Surprised by this, was expecting portglenone to push on this year and challenge Cargin for the league title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2017, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: stiffler on July 10, 2017, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 10, 2017, 04:36:40 PM
Casement's failing to get a top six finishing place in div one was a surprise.
Cargin have four games at home in the second phase and look favourites to retain the Eddie Fitz trophy ???

Surprised by this, was expecting portglenone to push on this year and challenge Cargin for the league title.

?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 11, 2017, 08:10:01 AM
Yeah think Portglenone will be a little disappointed not to have progressed onward this season in terms of league though Div 1 I always think it a little different to the rest where as long as you are not going down you can then decide to go all out and finish as high as possible or alternatively try things out, try players out and get yourself geared for Championship.  This differs from the other two divisions where to progress teams want to be playing at as high a level as possible so will be aiming for the top two places from the get go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2017, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 11, 2017, 08:10:01 AM
Yeah think Portglenone will be a little disappointed not to have progressed onward this season in terms of league though Div 1 I always think it a little different to the rest where as long as you are not going down you can then decide to go all out and finish as high as possible or alternatively try things out, try players out and get yourself geared for Championship.  This differs from the other two divisions where to progress teams want to be playing at as high a level as possible so will be aiming for the top two places from the get go.

But Stiffler was saying he expected them to win the league or thereabouts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 11, 2017, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2017, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 11, 2017, 08:10:01 AM
Yeah think Portglenone will be a little disappointed not to have progressed onward this season in terms of league though Div 1 I always think it a little different to the rest where as long as you are not going down you can then decide to go all out and finish as high as possible or alternatively try things out, try players out and get yourself geared for Championship.  This differs from the other two divisions where to progress teams want to be playing at as high a level as possible so will be aiming for the top two places from the get go.

But Stiffler was saying he expected them to win the league or thereabouts?

There's a difference between winning and challenging as any spurs fan will tell you  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2017, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Yeah pretty poor stuff from Glenravel this year - I thought having won the Junior last year and entering a very weak Div 3 this year that they would be promoted easily and possibly as Champions.  Instead they are clearly going backwards.

Was speaking to a Glenravel player at the Feis Final on Sunday night, couldn't believe it when he told me what had happened. He told me that they've lost 4 from the panel last year ad that injuries and holidays have left them thread bare over the last few weeks, when they needed a full panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2017, 01:53:00 PM
Casements form has dipped a bit with three losses on the trot to teams we might have expected to beat....Rossa at home and St Teresa's and Aldergrove away. No consistency with us, drawing with St Galls and St John's away, but that's no good if you can't back it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on July 11, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2017, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Yeah pretty poor stuff from Glenravel this year - I thought having won the Junior last year and entering a very weak Div 3 this year that they would be promoted easily and possibly as Champions.  Instead they are clearly going backwards.

Was speaking to a Glenravel player at the Feis Final on Sunday night, couldn't believe it when he told me what had happened. He told me that they've lost 4 from the panel last year ad that injuries and holidays have left them thread bare over the last few weeks, when they needed a full panel.

Thanks for update. Seemed a strange falling away. Their reserves are holding their own in Division 2 mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 11, 2017, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: ned on July 11, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2017, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Yeah pretty poor stuff from Glenravel this year - I thought having won the Junior last year and entering a very weak Div 3 this year that they would be promoted easily and possibly as Champions.  Instead they are clearly going backwards.

Was speaking to a Glenravel player at the Feis Final on Sunday night, couldn't believe it when he told me what had happened. He told me that they've lost 4 from the panel last year ad that injuries and holidays have left them thread bare over the last few weeks, when they needed a full panel.

Thanks for update. Seemed a strange falling away. Their reserves are holding their own in Division 2 mind.

Maybe should switch panels then  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2017, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: ned on July 11, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2017, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
Yeah pretty poor stuff from Glenravel this year - I thought having won the Junior last year and entering a very weak Div 3 this year that they would be promoted easily and possibly as Champions.  Instead they are clearly going backwards.

Was speaking to a Glenravel player at the Feis Final on Sunday night, couldn't believe it when he told me what had happened. He told me that they've lost 4 from the panel last year ad that injuries and holidays have left them thread bare over the last few weeks, when they needed a full panel.

Thanks for update. Seemed a strange falling away. Their reserves are holding their own in Division 2 mind.

Noticed that myself, strange!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on July 11, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
I hear brian mcquillan from Aldergrove has been handed a 24 week ban from ccc for playing a game against ahoghill while under suspension. His own club secretary had told him they were appealing his red card he picked up from st teresas game and that he was free to play while under appeal. His secretary was wrong and held his hands up to be suspended himself but turns out the player takes the rap for it . Totally ridiculous decision from ccc to suspend a player with an impeccable record for the rest of season for a mistake by his club secretary. Anyone else find this hard to understand. Surely a bit of common sense can be used. Not too long ago we were crying about a county player of our own being handed a silly suspension.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 11, 2017, 05:33:36 PM
Totally agree B O B rumour has it the bumbling buffoon SF from CHC was all over it like a rash, anything to help his own club, CD and TR need to watch their backs....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 11, 2017, 06:05:36 PM
Just type their names ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 11, 2017, 06:32:10 PM
Have aldergrove also been docked 2 points over this issue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on July 11, 2017, 07:14:47 PM
Yes docked 2 points from what i hear, punishment enough but ending a players season over this is crazy. Who will want a club secretarys job next year. Remember they are all volunteers who will no doubt make mistakes but sure lets sicken them with crazy suspensions. I hear Aldergroves secretary pleaded for ccc to suspend him as he was the one at fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 11, 2017, 09:47:41 PM
If the rules and sanctions have previously been agreed, why blame those charged to follow the guidelines laid down? Your club should consider a motion at the AGM if you think new proposals would be carried. Not perfect but thats democracy folks. Thinking about it, I'm sure meaningless end of season games vs rival teams could get very messy if common sense rules were applied so there could well be good reason for the rules to be as they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on July 11, 2017, 10:35:52 PM
So a player advised by his club official that hes ok to play as hes appealing the first ever red card of his career deserves to get handed a 24 week suspension for playing 1 game he shouldnt have. Players look to their club officials to guide them with the rules of suspensions etc that most players really have no idea about. Any sane person would see that the player was following the instructions of his club and its the club and its official thats made the mistake and broken the rules. Punish them with a fine , dock them the points for the match and maybe suspension but come on 24 weeks, are we trying to put amature players, volunteer officials and hard working clubs out of the game. If HS is trying to say rules are always followed to tbe letter of the law then hes kidding no one. Plenty of rule bending when it suits members of ccc and clubs. By the way im no Aldergrove man but do know Brian and hes absolutly gutted as is his club secretary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2017, 11:54:37 PM
You said the player was not at fault has impeccable recorded (but received red card) and listened to his sec and played on? If I was sent off I'd wait till I got confirmation from the CCC before playing.. that's just me, I wouldn't rely on the club official tbh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 12, 2017, 12:26:13 AM
They followed the rules and he deserves to be suspended. However, I'm sure that certain clubs/players would miraculously get off with this or have it fixed before any ban was handed out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 12, 2017, 12:38:39 AM
A player is suspended immediately after sending off.
A player is suspended until the disciplinary action has been sanctioned by CCC.
If a player will automatically miss the next game and credited for this when disciplinary action has been received .
Disciplinary action notice stipulates whether a player is entitled to play until the disciplinary action, has been completed
You have 3 days to request a hearing
It could be on these last two points that confusion has occurred


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2017, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 12, 2017, 12:38:39 AM
A player is suspended immediately after sending off.
A player is suspended until the disciplinary action has been sanctioned by CCC.
If a player will automatically miss the next game and credited for this when disciplinary action has been received .
Disciplinary action notice stipulates whether a player is entitled to play until the disciplinary action, has been completed
You have 3 days to request a hearing
It could be on these last two points that confusion has occurred

Until the CCC give you their findings based on the refs report I'd (if I was sec) wait before I'd let certain player play in a game, especially just a league game as now, they ain't available for championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on July 12, 2017, 07:23:14 AM
Your right MR2 thats what his secretary should have done but he made a judgement call and was wrong but he wasnt punished the player took all the blame and was suspended. Secretarys could change every year and a new sec mightened be as up to date on every rule can we not see there was a mistake here but that mistake shouldnt carry as harsh a suspension as Brian has got. His secretary advised him he could play so as any player would do he trusted his secretarys advice and played. Yes it was a wrong decision but surely this punishment doesnt fit the crime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2017, 08:03:53 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on July 12, 2017, 07:23:14 AM
Your right MR2 thats what his secretary should have done but he made a judgement call and was wrong but he wasnt punished the player took all the blame and was suspended. Secretarys could change every year and a new sec mightened be as up to date on every rule can we not see there was a mistake here but that mistake shouldnt carry as harsh a suspension as Brian has got. His secretary advised him he could play so as any player would do he trusted his secretarys advice and played. Yes it was a wrong decision but surely this punishment doesnt fit the crime.

Very harsh, but the rules are there... the sec can't play so punishing him is pointless .. hopefully a bitta common sense prevails
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on July 12, 2017, 08:25:28 AM
A bit of a furore about this one, but the rule has been applied previously in similar situations!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchie11 on July 12, 2017, 09:45:40 AM
Mibag u still sucking on them sour grapes I see!

Lads the rules r set out in the official guide as handed out. It doesn't matter if u r squeaky clean or not the rules r the same for everyone.

I would ask why would u appeal a one game ban in the first place?

If the referee reported it as an offence carrying one game then barring a technicality or u have video to the contrary u won't get off.

Was it down to the fact grove were to play a winnable game and wanted him available had it been a top 6 team would they have appealed?!

It is a hard one to take but as hs says ring ccc and double check the rules.
It has happened before with Carey from portglenone one such example.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrims most experienced on July 13, 2017, 06:49:21 AM
There is a clemency committee that sits at Ulster, the club secretary could take it there and see how they get on based on the explanations given at the time? Just a thought? 24 weeks does seem harsh, and I do agree depending on who you are or your club we have shown in the past that approaches and final decisions can be treated differently, in a good faith to say the rule is the rule is comical in the GAA in this day and age..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 14, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
Peter McGrath had stepped down at Fermanagh manager, get on the phone Collie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 16, 2017, 09:36:48 PM
I know all these margins are small but looking back at the league, we gave Armagh one of their hardest challenges of all in a no holds barred game. Genuinely could have gone either way. Now after exiting the Ulster championship at the first stage, as did we, they are in the final round of qualifiers with an All Ireland Quarter Final a realistic possibility while our senior footballers are kicking their heels waiting 7 months for a meaningful game. Small margins, big impact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 16, 2017, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 16, 2017, 09:36:48 PM
I know all these margins are small but looking back at the league, we gave Armagh one of their hardest challenges of all in a no holds barred game. Genuinely could have gone either way. Now after exiting the Ulster championship at the first stage, as did we, they are in the final round of qualifiers with an All Ireland Quarter Final a realistic possibility while our senior footballers are kicking their heels waiting 7 months for a meaningful game. Small margins, big impact.
Thing if u have a wee look at our own leagues BB.....u will find that a lot of Antrim clubs will be 'kicking their heels' and waiting around for seven or eight months until the resumption of our leagues 2018........leagues finish in August and out of the championship in same month.....well there is soccer. :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on July 16, 2017, 11:28:43 PM
CB, with the leagues virtually completed before c'ship, all teams will have had several good run outs v teams of a similar standard as prep. The league could be stretched out and finished late November, but many teams would be far from full strength and the league outcomes would possibly not reflect a true position for a number of clubs. Only one opinion but if you have a better suggestion please share...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2017, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 16, 2017, 09:36:48 PM
I know all these margins are small but looking back at the league, we gave Armagh one of their hardest challenges of all in a no holds barred game. Genuinely could have gone either way. Now after exiting the Ulster championship at the first stage, as did we, they are in the final round of qualifiers with an All Ireland Quarter Final a realistic possibility while our senior footballers are kicking their heels waiting 7 months for a meaningful game. Small margins, big impact.

League games in the NFL won't represent how you play in championship.... leagues are playing, championships are for winning! Armagh had decent draws after exciting Ulster also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 16, 2017, 11:36:34 PM
Quote from: jdyok on July 16, 2017, 11:28:43 PM
CB, with the leagues virtually completed before c'ship, all teams will have had several good run outs v teams of a similar standard as prep. The league could be stretched out and finished late November, but many teams would be far from full strength and the league outcomes would possibly not reflect a true position for a number of clubs. Only one opinion but if you have a better suggestion please share...
Just making comment mo chara.....short season (4》months) for most....and we cannot complain when soccer fills the long void.... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 17, 2017, 01:13:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 14, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
Peter McGrath had stepped down at Fermanagh manager, get on the phone Collie

Absolutely.  We need a change. No disrepect to the men there at the minute. 

An outsider like Pete would or at least shoukd command respect.

Baker was the best thing happened us in years. Pete could be too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 17, 2017, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: Gold on July 17, 2017, 01:13:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 14, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
Peter McGrath had stepped down at Fermanagh manager, get on the phone Collie

Absolutely.  We need a change. No disrepect to the men there at the minute. 

An outsider like Pete would or at least shoukd command respect.

Baker was the best thing happened us in years. Pete could be too

I should of wrote that also,absolutely no disrespect to Fitzy & Adams. 2 fine men who have done their best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 18, 2017, 07:08:44 PM
https://kevinjosephmcgourty.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/the-elephant-in-the-stadiumcasement/

Interesting read.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 18, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Absolutely spot on but hardly anything new
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 18, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 18, 2017, 07:08:44 PM
https://kevinjosephmcgourty.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/the-elephant-in-the-stadiumcasement/

Interesting read.
As usual K Mc G is right to the point, and I am sure the truth contained therein will be a bitter pill to swallow for more than a few...... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 18, 2017, 10:34:41 PM
9.2 Million spent so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2017, 10:37:45 PM
I haven't seen anywhere or heard anything from GAA folk that building Casement in Belfast will make us a better county, all I want is for Us to be able to use the dam place!!

Noticed some GAA funding over the years given to counties, Dublin top, no surprise but Antrim were lying fourth !! What have we achieved with that?  This was dated from 2007 till 2015 (I think)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 19, 2017, 08:48:48 AM
i seen that chart as well. i would love to know how this was broken down and spent within our county. it would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.

Still more than other counties no? Other counties that have done better let's say in juvenile or school
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 20, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.

Still more than other counties no? Other counties that have done better let's say in juvenile or school
Paying a visit to Toome on Sunday MR2..........sure only the league  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 20, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.

Still more than other counties no? Other counties that have done better let's say in juvenile or school
Paying a visit to Toome on Sunday MR2..........sure only the league  :)

I would love to, yous might get a crowd out seeing Celtic aren't playing, but I'm in Florida at the minute on some warm weather training... good luck lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 20, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 20, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.

Still more than other counties no? Other counties that have done better let's say in juvenile or school
Paying a visit to Toome on Sunday MR2..........sure only the league  :)

I would love to, yous might get a crowd out seeing Celtic aren't playing, but I'm in Florida at the minute on some warm weather training... good luck lads

And you're on here giving out... Make sure and wear a hat or factor 50..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 20, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 20, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.

Still more than other counties no? Other counties that have done better let's say in juvenile or school
Paying a visit to Toome on Sunday MR2..........sure only the league  :)

I would love to, yous might get a crowd out seeing Celtic aren't playing, but I'm in Florida at the minute on some warm weather training... good luck lads

And you're on here giving out... Make sure and wear a hat or factor 50..

Only bitta fun
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2017, 09:01:12 PM
Jesus!! Cargin must have had out the reserve team! Bigger fish to fry I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 23, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2017, 09:01:12 PM
Jesus!! Cargin must have had out the reserve team! Bigger fish to fry I suppose
All aboard MR2......'the king is dead, long live the king'..........obituaries are penned already... :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2017, 11:11:55 PM
you get these fluke results every so often
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on July 23, 2017, 11:30:36 PM
Is it true an 18 year old lost four front teeth from a cowardly dig?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2017, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on July 23, 2017, 11:30:36 PM
Is it true an 18 year old lost four front teeth from a cowardly dig?

In which game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 24, 2017, 09:17:27 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on July 23, 2017, 11:30:36 PM
Is it true an 18 year old lost four front teeth from a cowardly dig?

Apt username
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 24, 2017, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 20, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 20, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on July 19, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Saw that table on facebook, some ridiculous comments on it as well.

The figure for Antrim was €551,973 over 9 years (07 - 15).
Thats slightly over €60k per year - might just about cover 2 full time coaches so while its a big number, it won't go very far.

Still more than other counties no? Other counties that have done better let's say in juvenile or school
Paying a visit to Toome on Sunday MR2..........sure only the league  :)

I would love to, yous might get a crowd out seeing Celtic aren't playing, but I'm in Florida at the minute on some warm weather training... good luck lads

And you're on here giving out... Make sure and wear a hat or factor 50..

Only bitta fun

Bring me back a stick o rock anyway and I'll forgive you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on July 25, 2017, 01:29:56 PM
Which game did the lad get a dig?
Any interesting names for antrim job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 27, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Great result for Antrim town last night and puts them in a really good position for staying in Div 2 - this would be a fantastic achievement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 27, 2017, 11:29:59 AM
Read Curlys match report on Saffrongael...think he was shell-shocked because at one stage Dunloy were cruising.

Well done to them....and to our seconds who secured the Div 1 senior reserve league title last night for the first time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on July 31, 2017, 11:07:07 AM
Bannside, I was down in Portglenone on Saturday, had to call to the monastery. Decided to go and see your new pitch. Never mind being delighted to see your new pitch looking fantastic, but I was delighted to see the work that the club have done to the existing grounds, with the new entrance looking very welcoming, the new fencing around the existing pitch and the tar down to finish the picture. Brilliant job, I am sure you are all very proud of the work put in. Congratulations. The funding for the new pitch from the lottery? Where did the funding for upgrading the existing pitch come from as there has been a fair bit spent?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 31, 2017, 09:16:13 PM
So Rory Gallagher vacates the Donegal hot seat.....Is he Antrim bound MR2...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 31, 2017, 09:16:13 PM
So Rory Gallagher vacates the Donegal hot seat.....Is he Antrim bound MR2...??

He'd need to get fit first, probably would start on the reserves first and if the manager feels he's got something to help the seniors he could make the squad!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2017, 09:26:58 PM
Thanks Shawshank. We are well proud of it and there's still more to do in the next year or two. We took our inspiration from An Lub officials who came to our club and explained how they did it.   Ballymena borough council were excellent too and we got a good hand out from them. We hope to be on the new pitch soon..sure we will get the Pearses over for a friendly early next year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 01, 2017, 12:46:28 PM
Meant to say that hundreds of voluntary man hours were invested in the project by dozens of club volunteers, many from a construction background who have all the equipment etc so this made a huge difference. The tarring was done at cost price by clubman Phelim Mc Cluskey who heads up P Graham & sons tarmac, and that made a good difference too. All this allowed us to make a substantial saving. Kilrea out doing the hard yards round the doors. Long haul but the reward will be worth it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 01, 2017, 01:17:02 PM
was well impressed last time i was down there with the camogs. excellent set up now for future generations to use.

when will the new pitch be open for usage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 01, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
Expect it open soon just a few little snags to finish off contractually and it's good to go. I know it looks well...but wait until you set foot on the new pitch. It's as good as you'll get.  And the floodlights are very high spec too. So lots to look forward to after the big effort all round to pull it off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 01, 2017, 02:43:19 PM
Fair play Bannside, seen a few pics on Social media and looks impressive.

Seems to be a few clubs doing development work at present, striving to improve what they already have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
The first club to put up a small stand will get all the plaudits. At least 5 in Derry, possibly 7 in Tyrone... but not one in Antrim since old Corrigan stand was demolished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on August 01, 2017, 11:48:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
The first club to put up a small stand will get all the plaudits. At least 5 in Derry, possibly 7 in Tyrone... but not one in Antrim since old Corrigan stand was demolished.

At a quick count off the top of my head there are 22 clubs with covered stands in Tyrone.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 02, 2017, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
The first club to put up a small stand will get all the plaudits. At least 5 in Derry, possibly 7 in Tyrone... but not one in Antrim since old Corrigan stand was demolished.

wont be us sadly lol were in the middle of sorting out the final funding for a new 4G pitch to the side of the Academy on that tarmac area. Much in the same vein as what Creggan have there to be fully flood lit as well for use during the winter time. Pitches is what we need more as we dont allow the main field to be used for training by any grade so were all on the second pitch. its taking a hammering at the moment so more playing space is the priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 02, 2017, 12:50:34 PM
No doubt DR the pitch would come before the notion of a covered standing area. Dunloy a great example of a progressive club...a 90% hurling club who can step up to win a county minor football title. Some achievement. 22 clubs with covered stands in Tyrone is an impressive stat too it has to be said!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on August 02, 2017, 01:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 02, 2017, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
The first club to put up a small stand will get all the plaudits. At least 5 in Derry, possibly 7 in Tyrone... but not one in Antrim since old Corrigan stand was demolished.

wont be us sadly lol were in the middle of sorting out the final funding for a new 4G pitch to the side of the Academy on that tarmac area. Much in the same vein as what Creggan have there to be fully flood lit as well for use during the winter time. Pitches is what we need more as we dont allow the main field to be used for training by any grade so were all on the second pitch. its taking a hammering at the moment so more playing space is the priority.

I was reading an article in the last few months from Holland, and I am sure the gist of it was that they had stopped building 3/4g pitches in Holland due to the amount of serious injuries, all back up with research.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on August 02, 2017, 01:04:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 02, 2017, 12:50:34 PM
No doubt DR the pitch would come before the notion of a covered standing area. Dunloy a great example of a progressive club...a 90% hurling club who can step up to win a county minor football title. Some achievement. 22 clubs with covered stands in Tyrone is an impressive stat too it has to be said!

Can you measure a counties enthusiasm or commitments to our games by the amount of covered stands they have, you can in Tyrones case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2017, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 02, 2017, 01:04:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 02, 2017, 12:50:34 PM
No doubt DR the pitch would come before the notion of a covered standing area. Dunloy a great example of a progressive club...a 90% hurling club who can step up to win a county minor football title. Some achievement. 22 clubs with covered stands in Tyrone is an impressive stat too it has to be said!

Can you measure a counties enthusiasm or commitments to our games by the amount of covered stands they have, you can in Tyrones case.

Rain and attendance figures must be high in Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 02, 2017, 02:05:57 PM
Club logo Umbrella Hats is the way forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 02, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
fair weather fans in Tyrone lol

were not made of sugar in co antrim. its the midges we have to content with is the bother!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 02, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
fair weather fans in Tyrone lol

were not made of sugar in co antrim. its the midges we have to content with is the bother!

Glenravel has to be worst for it! Went to watch my nephew play a game there a few weeks ago, ate alive I was!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2017, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 02, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
fair weather fans in Tyrone lol

were not made of sugar in co antrim. its the midges we have to content with is the bother!

Glenravel has to be worst for it! Went to watch my nephew play a game there a few weeks ago, ate alive I was!

They must like the bitter taste  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on August 02, 2017, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 02, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
fair weather fans in Tyrone lol

were not made of sugar in co antrim. its the midges we have to content with is the bother!

Glenravel has to be worst for it! Went to watch my nephew play a game there a few weeks ago, ate alive I was!

It's the big trees, plenty of shelter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2017, 04:49:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2017, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 02, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
fair weather fans in Tyrone lol

were not made of sugar in co antrim. its the midges we have to content with is the bother!

Glenravel has to be worst for it! Went to watch my nephew play a game there a few weeks ago, ate alive I was!

They must like the bitter taste  :o

Bitter taste?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 02, 2017, 10:09:56 PM
Well done to Cargin on winning the Eddie fitzsimmons cup tonight.

Does anyone know the lay of the land at the bottom of div 1?

Do aldergrove still have 2 points to be deducted ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 03, 2017, 07:26:13 AM
Quote from: stiffler on August 02, 2017, 10:09:56 PM
Well done to Cargin on winning the Eddie fitzsimmons cup tonight.

Does anyone know the lay of the land at the bottom of div 1?

Do aldergrove still have 2 points to be deducted ?

and to Glenavy on getting up from Div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 03, 2017, 10:22:35 AM
Bottom of Div 1looks like a straight shoot out between Aldergrove and Ahoghill to see who joins St Pauls for the drop. They play each other in their last game for survival in the top flight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 03, 2017, 12:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
The first club to put up a small stand will get all the plaudits. At least 5 in Derry, possibly 7 in Tyrone... but not one in Antrim since old Corrigan stand was demolished.

An indoor facility like Dunloy or Randalstown for me would be more desirable than a covered stand.  Of course both would be good but the ability to work all year round, and in all weather, particularly with the youth would be a massive boost to any club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 03, 2017, 12:40:54 PM
Agree 100% Hectic. A stands for standing in. A year round playing facility is a much stronger priority. That's our next focus in our club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cca on August 03, 2017, 03:33:07 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 02, 2017, 10:09:56 PM
Well done to Cargin on winning the Eddie fitzsimmons cup tonight.

Does anyone know the lay of the land at the bottom of div 1?

Do aldergrove still have 2 points to be deducted ?

Despite playing an illegal player against Ahoghill in the 1st phase (before split) the CCC have now decided NOT to deduct the 2 points Aldergrove gained by winning that match!

To compound Ahoghill's difficulties CCC are insisting that that last match (against Aldergrove - to avoid relegation) is played at 3pm on Sunday 13th, after Clooney Gaels play Cushendall in the SHC on Saturday 12th at 6.30pm, with probably at least half a dozen dual players!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2017, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: Hectic on August 03, 2017, 12:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
The first club to put up a small stand will get all the plaudits. At least 5 in Derry, possibly 7 in Tyrone... but not one in Antrim since old Corrigan stand was demolished.

An indoor facility like Dunloy or Randalstown for me would be more desirable than a covered stand.  Of course both would be good but the ability to work all year round, and in all weather, particularly with the youth would be a massive boost to any club.

I would most def agree with that hectic. our lot are inside training all year when the pitches are closed and the weather is poor, much like what we have had all this week. the Cul Camp wouldnt of been able to cope this week with the main pitch having to be closed to using it and the second pitch being tore up. the academy ensured that we could get the most of them in it - with a bit of help from our local primary school

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Redordead on August 04, 2017, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: cca on August 03, 2017, 03:33:07 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 02, 2017, 10:09:56 PM
Well done to Cargin on winning the Eddie fitzsimmons cup tonight.

Does anyone know the lay of the land at the bottom of div 1?

Do aldergrove still have 2 points to be deducted ?

Despite playing an illegal player against Ahoghill in the 1st phase (before split) the CCC have now decided NOT to deduct the 2 points Aldergrove gained by winning that match!

To compound Ahoghill's difficulties CCC are insisting that that last match (against Aldergrove - to avoid relegation) is played at 3pm on Sunday 13th, after Clooney Gaels play Cushendall in the SHC on Saturday 12th at 6.30pm, with probably at least half a dozen dual players!!!


Just to make it a bit clearer what is being asked above.  14 of the starting Ahoghill football team on Sunday will most likely start for the hurlers on Saturday evening and about 20 of the panel will be involved in both.  A championship match and a relegation play off within 24 hours, not much consideration for player welfare there, but sure they are 2 different clubs......

The Aldergrove fine instead of points is just a joke. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 04, 2017, 01:24:18 PM
Portglenone should do Ahoghill a bit of a favour on Mon night with their home fixture against Aldgrove   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 04, 2017, 02:07:39 PM
Not sure of the full ins and puts of what happened with Aldergrove but is there any precedent here? I know Aghagallon were effectively relegated to Div 3 after getting points docked for not fielding. Different situation I appreciate but at the same time I would not like to see rules being applied for one team and not for another. Bit I stress I am only asking the question here as I do not know the rules that were broken or the associated punishment that is recorded against them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 04, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
I agree with Redordead.  There is no way two such important games should be fixed within less than a day. We should admire clubs who play both codes, not punish them. I'd be confident Mr Grieve will see that the relegation game does not under any circumstances NEED to be played off before the middle of August. I'm sure if he wore his St John's hat for a moment and pondered the importance of the fixture, he would recommend making an exception in this instance.

Additionally, given that Aldergrove were granted a reprieve, you would think that they should be big enough to compromise on another date that won't inconvenience any other fixture. Common sense to prevail.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on August 05, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Y would Aldergrove do that. The county set the dates and fixtures, Aldergrove may have guys who still have holidays to take and students may need to return across the water. For the county to release league and championship fixtures so close together with the assumption it will work out is crazy. Why have all league fixtures been crammed into 5 months of play. Some teams seasons will be over before mid August.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 05, 2017, 08:26:39 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on August 05, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Y would Aldergrove do that. The county set the dates and fixtures, Aldergrove may have guys who still have holidays to take and students may need to return across the water. For the county to release league and championship fixtures so close together with the assumption it will work out is crazy. Why have all league fixtures been crammed into 5 months of play. Some teams seasons will be over before mid August.
Gotta agree, as I said previously if ousted from championship in first round those unlucky souls will have to wait out for about six months with only thumbs to twiddle.

But then there is always soccer. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 06, 2017, 08:25:55 AM
Quote from: cca on August 03, 2017, 03:33:07 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 02, 2017, 10:09:56 PM
Well done to Cargin on winning the Eddie fitzsimmons cup tonight.

Does anyone know the lay of the land at the bottom of div 1?

Do aldergrove still have 2 points to be deducted ?

Despite playing an illegal player against Ahoghill in the 1st phase (before split) the CCC have now decided NOT to deduct the 2 points Aldergrove gained by winning that match!

To compound Ahoghill's difficulties CCC are insisting that that last match (against Aldergrove - to avoid relegation) is played at 3pm on Sunday 13th, after Clooney Gaels play Cushendall in the SHC on Saturday 12th at 6.30pm, with probably at least half a dozen dual players!!!
The CCC had and still have no other option other than to act as per rule in their actions against a team fielding with an 'illegal' player included.
Rule states induvidual suspension (not less than six months) imposed as well as points not being awarded.

But hey this is Antrim😮
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 12, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
JFC  : Eire Og robbed last night by two poor decisions.
A clear point signalled wide by umpire.
A definite penalty given as a free in the square!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 12, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 12, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
JFC  : Eire Og robbed last night by two poor decisions.
A clearbpoint signalled wide by umpire.
A definite penalty given as a free in in square!

Good game Delgany? Mals for a final appearance? nobody will get near sars though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 12, 2017, 11:45:47 AM
Poor match.
Hard to read mals side of the draw....but most experienced team on this side .
Sarsfields at a canter
Opportunity for a run in Ulster  depending on draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on August 12, 2017, 01:49:45 PM
Can I ask what are Sarsfields doing in the JFC? I am not from Antrim but I always thought Sarsfields would have been a strong Belfast team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on August 12, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Were they relegated from 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on August 12, 2017, 03:00:31 PM
Ah right cheers. Really surprised just
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 12, 2017, 08:21:51 PM
Yeah not sure what issue is. My preference would be championships aligned with leagues anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Quagmire on August 12, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 12, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 12, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
JFC  : Eire Og robbed last night by two poor decisions.
A clearbpoint signalled wide by umpire.
A definite penalty given as a free in in square!

Good game Delgany? Mals for a final appearance? nobody will get near sars though

The photo in the match report on the Saffron Gael site would suggest the referee got the call right in regards to the free...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 13, 2017, 01:01:32 AM
He was 40 yards away ........he bottled the decision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Quagmire on August 13, 2017, 02:09:15 AM
But he gave the right decision, whether by luck judgement. Not a penalty by the photo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2017, 07:36:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 13, 2017, 01:01:32 AM
He was 40 yards away ........he bottled the decision

How many yards away were you? If he seen a foul and not a 100% sure it was in the box should he give it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 14, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
Sarsfields completely in their right to play JFC, id say they've 1 eye on a good ulster run. seem to have gotten a good group of players together, would see them making an impact in div 2 next year. Surprised just how easy they brushed O'ds aside though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on August 14, 2017, 01:50:24 PM
Just heard Cargin got presented with the league trophy before the game yesterday...."chairman was in a rush"....and could not wait until after the game.

Sums up Antrim for me and how highly the county board value the football..

Players thought it was a disgrace and totally disrespectful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Is that why they were beat? He probably had another appointment, would you rather he not present the trophy?

Jezze ya win that many times and after hearing about throwing your league medals in The Bann it would seem you're not interested in the league anyways!

hey ho!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 16, 2017, 07:24:43 AM
So is MR2 is really keeping an eye on the goings on in the league......hey ho indeed.....a sign of the times perhaps ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on August 16, 2017, 07:38:51 AM
The league doesn't really matter now boys, the biggest test of the year so far comes later this weekend...  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2017, 07:47:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 16, 2017, 07:24:43 AM
So is MR2 is really keeping an eye on the goings on in the league......hey ho indeed.....a sign of the times perhaps ;)

Can't remember the last time we won the league but I can remember wining games in the Ulster club  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 16, 2017, 02:56:36 PM
So Gearoid Adams isn't standing again with Fitzy. Who is the best to replace him in the set up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 16, 2017, 10:54:40 PM
pete mc grath  ::) ::) ::).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on August 17, 2017, 12:13:35 PM
Who all is in for the county job,so far ive hear fitsy,pete mcgrath and mckeever.Are these people really interested?Is there any other names?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 17, 2017, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: Galer on August 17, 2017, 12:13:35 PM
Who all is in for the county job,so far ive hear fitsy,pete mcgrath and mckeever.Are these people really interested?Is there any other names?

McKeever a non runner apparently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 17, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
weekend football championship predictions

pearses to beat mitchells by 10
lisburn to beat st malachys by 1
sarsfields to beat ardoyne by 10
cargin to beat rossa by 10
st agnes to beat ballycastle by 1
st endas to beat davitts by 10
moneyglass to beat rasharkin by 5
st johns to beat aldergrove by 5
st brigids to beat randalstown by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 17, 2017, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 17, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
weekend football championship predictions

pearses to beat mitchells by 10 - probably
lisburn to beat st malachys by 1 - yeah can see a close game here
sarsfields to beat ardoyne by 10 - not convinced it will be that big a gap
cargin to beat rossa by 10 - probably
st agnes to beat ballycastle by 1 - maybe
st endas to beat davitts by 10 - should win, maybe by 7
moneyglass to beat rasharkin by 5 - don't be surprised if Rasharkin come through here
st johns to beat aldergrove by 5 - at least
st brigids to beat randalstown by 1 - by more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 18, 2017, 08:56:45 AM
So let me get this straight, according to Pete McGrath, he was approached by a third party from Antrim when he wasn't available (Antrim probably knowing full well they couldn't get him but trying to look proactive) and since he has become available there hasn't been a Dickie bird? As for Fitzy, he's a good Antrim man, but that shouldn't get you the job. He is an average manager, compounded by the fact he has lost his best asset - Adams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 18, 2017, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Hectic on August 17, 2017, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 17, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
weekend football championship predictions

pearses to beat mitchells by 10 - more
lisburn to beat st malachys by 1 - Tight but Mals to edge it
sarsfields to beat ardoyne by 10 - Another tight game Sars edging it
cargin to beat rossa by 10 - Depending what team Rossa put out.. 7> Cargin win
st agnes to beat ballycastle by 1 - Aggies by 5
st endas to beat davitts by 10 - Endas handy
moneyglass to beat rasharkin by 5 - Could swing either way, Moneyglass to edge it
st johns to beat aldergrove by 5 - St Johns by 10>
st brigids to beat randalstown by 1 - St B's to ease in to next round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 18, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
Expect Cargin to win the SFC easily this year.  They really should be targeting a run in the Ulster club competition this year instead of falling in the first round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 19, 2017, 09:02:41 AM
Sarsfields came through against Ardoyne last night, were 6 or 7 down at one stage.

Any result from the Pearses and St Mals game's?

Antrim website seems to be down

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2017, 12:58:39 PM
Lisburn beat st malachys. Not sure on the other. Good result for lisburn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 19, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
Think pearses match  wasn't played
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2017, 08:03:59 PM
Was at the St Paul's Lamhs game!! Will never get that hour back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 19, 2017, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2017, 08:03:59 PM
Was at the St Paul's Lamhs game!! Will never get that hour back

At least you got to stay warm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2017, 09:00:15 PM
So near yet so far bs :(

Results seemed to go as expected really. Looked like a tight one between aghagallon and st teresas - moneyglass and rasharkin in the intermediate too.

Breakingball wins predictions by 1 over hectic...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 20, 2017, 10:23:03 PM
Yes ITG, as they say...close but no cigar!

We threw the kitchen sink at it and were three up with five minutes left,  but Galls used all their hard won craft over the years to grind it out. We missed three great goal chances and the annoying thing for us is we know we were truly thereabouts. Good luck to St Galls though. A team I have grown to admire greatly over the years, flying the flag for Antrim when no one else  was.

Our average age profile is still young so maybe we won't be so far away ourselves in a year or two, but at the moment Cargin look a stretch ahead of the rest.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2017, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 20, 2017, 10:23:03 PM
Yes ITG, as they say...close but no cigar!

We threw the kitchen sink at it and were three up with five minutes left,  but Galls used all their hard won craft over the years to grind it out. We missed three great goal chances and the annoying thing for us is we know we were truly thereabouts. Good luck to St Galls though. A team I have grown to admire greatly over the years, flying the flag for Antrim when no one else  was.

Our average age profile is still young so maybe we won't be so far away ourselves in a year or two, but at the moment Cargin look a stretch ahead of the rest.

Unlucky , we had to dig deep into our reserves to get over the line today I hear, couldn't make it myself but by all accounts both teams played well.

A tough game like that will stand by us... hopefully we'll move on and improve

By all accounts Cargin may wel get 3 in a row but I was impressed with Lamhs, but they'd need to keep the work rate up and have all their players fit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 09:04:33 AM
How many championship debutants had St Galls out? Echoing what everyone has said already, it is Cargin's to lose but only because they seem to be the only side not in some sort of transition. LD are definitely a good side, and are very capable of beating St Galls, but St Galls are more of a team for me and that'll be enough to see them through.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2017, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 20, 2017, 10:23:03 PM
Yes ITG, as they say...close but no cigar!

We threw the kitchen sink at it and were three up with five minutes left,  but Galls used all their hard won craft over the years to grind it out. We missed three great goal chances and the annoying thing for us is we know we were truly thereabouts. Good luck to St Galls though. A team I have grown to admire greatly over the years, flying the flag for Antrim when no one else  was.

Our average age profile is still young so maybe we won't be so far away ourselves in a year or two, but at the moment Cargin look a stretch ahead of the rest.

Unlucky , we had to dig deep into our reserves to get over the line today I hear, couldn't make it myself but by all accounts both teams played well.

A tough game like that will stand by us... hopefully we'll move on and improve

By all accounts Cargin may wel get 3 in a row but I was impressed with Lamhs, but they'd need to keep the work rate up and have all their players fit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 09:26:31 AM
I wouldn't imagine anyone from Naomh Gall thinking that Lamhs aren't a 'team', they played well on Saturday, albeit St Pauls were not great but Lamhs could have beat Naomh Gall a few times and I doubt management would be looking at this game and thinking its a given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
Now now MR2, don't be putting words in my mouth. It was never mentioned that LD aren't a team or that St Galls thought this game was "a given". It will be a tight game and I believe St Galls experience and togetherness will get them over the line.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 09:26:31 AM
I wouldn't imagine anyone from Naomh Gall thinking that Lamhs aren't a 'team', they played well on Saturday, albeit St Pauls were not great but Lamhs could have beat Naomh Gall a few times and I doubt management would be looking at this game and thinking its a given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on August 21, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
StGalls, Creggan or LD could all make the final - I dont think there is much between them. All three have a few quality forwards in niblock, pollock, smalls,ruari mccann, murrays but weaker defences. Saying that i think St Galls have the stronger defence so will come through.

Cargin and StJohns should progress unscathed and expect a very close game come the semi final.

StJohns have improved dramatically this year and I think they will become the team to beat in the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
Now now MR2, don't be putting words in my mouth. It was never mentioned that LD aren't a team or that St Galls thought this game was "a given". It will be a tight game and I believe St Galls experience and togetherness will get them over the line.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 09:26:31 AM
I wouldn't imagine anyone from Naomh Gall thinking that Lamhs aren't a 'team', they played well on Saturday, albeit St Pauls were not great but Lamhs could have beat Naomh Gall a few times and I doubt management would be looking at this game and thinking its a given

In fairness you did say St Galls are in transition and a lot of lads making their first championship starts then said that they have experience? Lamhs would have a more settled team based on that assumption.... If Lamhs come out and play football and go at us then it will be nip and tuck, if they sit back and play defensively then we should win.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 11:34:39 AM
Andy McClean, Sean Burke, Colin Brady, Micky Pollock, Kevin Niblock, Terry O'Neill - not to mention the players on from the bench. Still more than enough experience there. I agree though, if LD play defensively they are asking for trouble but I think they will fancy their chances in an attacking shootout. A few red cards been shown in these games in the past few years, it'll make for an interesting spectacle.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
Now now MR2, don't be putting words in my mouth. It was never mentioned that LD aren't a team or that St Galls thought this game was "a given". It will be a tight game and I believe St Galls experience and togetherness will get them over the line.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 09:26:31 AM
I wouldn't imagine anyone from Naomh Gall thinking that Lamhs aren't a 'team', they played well on Saturday, albeit St Pauls were not great but Lamhs could have beat Naomh Gall a few times and I doubt management would be looking at this game and thinking its a given

In fairness you did say St Galls are in transition and a lot of lads making their first championship starts then said that they have experience? Lamhs would have a more settled team based on that assumption.... If Lamhs come out and play football and go at us then it will be nip and tuck, if they sit back and play defensively then we should win.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Don't be surprised if Glenavy give St Johns a close game or even go a step further. Aldergrove created a bucket load of goal chances and they were missing some key players. Glenavy are on the crest of a wave after their league victory.

Quote from: Loughshore Green on August 21, 2017, 09:59:44 AM

StGalls, Creggan or LD could all make the final - I dont think there is much between them. All three have a few quality forwards in niblock, pollock, smalls,ruari mccann, murrays but weaker defences. Saying that i think St Galls have the stronger defence so will come through.

Cargin and StJohns should progress unscathed and expect a very close game come the semi final.

StJohns have improved dramatically this year and I think they will become the team to beat in the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 21, 2017, 02:20:21 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on August 21, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Don't be surprised if Glenavy give St Johns a close game or even go a step further. Aldergrove created a bucket load of goal chances and they were missing some key players. Glenavy are on the crest of a wave after their league victory.

Quote from: Loughshore Green on August 21, 2017, 09:59:44 AM

StGalls, Creggan or LD could all make the final - I dont think there is much between them. All three have a few quality forwards in niblock, pollock, smalls,ruari mccann, murrays but weaker defences. Saying that i think St Galls have the stronger defence so will come through.

Cargin and StJohns should progress unscathed and expect a very close game come the semi final.

StJohns have improved dramatically this year and I think they will become the team to beat in the next few years.

I would be surprised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 21, 2017, 05:19:56 PM
I think its safe to say that the Kings, St Galls, are dead at senior championship football, scrapping past Port-glen-one.  Long live the kings

Cargin will win the SFC at a canter this year but there is a team emerging behind him. 

In Lion King terms

-St Galls are Mufasa, long live the kings
-Cargin are currently Scar, have 2 wins under there belt with another on the way but they will be overthrown
-Aghagallon are Simba and they are coming in couple of years to rule the Antrim SFC
-St Johns and Lámh Dhearg are Timon and Pumbaa respectively

The rest are just buffalo and zebras.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 21, 2017, 06:09:28 PM
Christmas lights think you've been watching too much Disney channel. Creggan don't even get a look in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2017, 06:42:52 PM
Aghagallon?

No disrespect of course.

Yeah Aghagallon. A few good minors and Un21s there. A system of play which suits all players and has been worked on over a few season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
As did gort namona. Long way to go with the seniors. If they want to be challenging for senior they should be beating st teresas by as much as st johns were beating aldergrove.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 21, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 21, 2017, 06:09:28 PM
Christmas lights think you've been watching too much Disney channel. Creggan don't even get a look in?

Shocking the amount of Disney channel in this house.
OK, Creggan can be Nala (that's Simba's future wife)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on August 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:30 AM
Quote from: Clover on August 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads

So just keep going the way have been last few years because the guy is a great fella? no disrespect but i don't really care how much he gets paid or what he raises, as a supporter thats not what interests me, what interests me is results on the pitch and unfortunately i dont think Fitzys have been good enough. Lets show a bit of ambition and push the boat out, harsh as it may sound, thats what we need to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 22, 2017, 10:05:08 AM
Fitzy is not good enough to take our seniors, good move from the county board setting up a panel to try and lure some new talent in at the top level. Buchy is doing some good work at underage and there is some good investment there too, we need to mirror that at the top level.

Quote from: themac_23 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:30 AM
Quote from: Clover on August 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads

So just keep going the way have been last few years because the guy is a great fella? no disrespect but i don't really care how much he gets paid or what he raises, as a supporter thats not what interests me, what interests me is results on the pitch and unfortunately i dont think Fitzys have been good enough. Lets show a bit of ambition and push the boat out, harsh as it may sound, thats what we need to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 22, 2017, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: Clover on August 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads

Chill out fitzy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 22, 2017, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 22, 2017, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: Clover on August 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads

Chill out fitzy
If Fitzy had any wit he should certainly chill out, how much harder can we kick him ..........and then I wonder in these days of austerity who is going to fund any of those 'big names' mentioned last evening in a meeting which brought little credit to those who would 'lead'.
Think we should be concentrating on developing our youth and addressing problems within.............stood with our minors tonite awaiting the arrival of the Milltown Blues.......made no show.
Gotta concern our county when three of the top sides in our county have only managed one single win amongst them in an All County minor league which has descended to the farcical.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 22, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
Good point CB. If football is going to prosper we do need a clear plan for youth development. Pol Doherty doing a great job but more to do. On a positive note, our co executive are getting on really well with the "plan for Belfast" and there will be obvious spin offs for the greater Belfast area which extends to most SW parts too.
Don't be too critical because there is good news on this score coming down the tracks. Of course CB I know you will be gracious enough to acknowledge that when the time comes.

Not all doom and gloom. The age old chill between social club members and the county has sorted itself out and a healthy cheque changed hands recently which the county treasurer gratefully accepted. Rome wasn't built in a day. Some very positive developments are ongoing/taking place. Credit please where it's due!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2017, 08:19:10 PM
Balance is important however the situation at u16 and minor in Belfast is dire in terms of numbers of teams competing and failures to field. There needs to be some urgent action taken at this level or our senior manager, whoever they are, will be fighting an uphill battle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 22, 2017, 09:24:53 PM
Bannside...whats the latest with the Senior Football Managenent position. You seem to be the man in the know !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 09:35:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 22, 2017, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 22, 2017, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: Clover on August 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
So Fitzy is the only name in on the dead line the man never took a penny and raised a lot of money last year on his own and our county board appoint a 3 man panel and that slabber Delargy to beg people to take the job and pay them stay classy lads

Chill out fitzy
If Fitzy had any wit he should certainly chill out, how much harder can we kick him ..........and then I wonder in these days of austerity who is going to fund any of those 'big names' mentioned last evening in a meeting which brought little credit to those who would 'lead'.
Think we should be concentrating on developing our youth and addressing problems within.............stood with our minors tonite awaiting the arrival of the Milltown Blues.......made no show.
Gotta concern our county when three of the top sides in our county have only managed one single win amongst them in an All County minor league which has descended to the farcical.....

On austerity how much is JB getting??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 22, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Far from it Stillwater! At the minute there are 4 names going forward to interview. Still far from certain who the next manager will be. Interviews to take place during the next few weeks and all will be revealed then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 22, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Far from it Stillwater! At the minute there are 4 names going forward to interview. Still far from certain who the next manager will be. Interviews to take place during the next few weeks and all will be revealed then.
U in co board BS....seem to know more than most..?
Have we decided on 21 and minor management...any applicants or we head hunting ?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on August 22, 2017, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
Good point CB. If football is going to prosper we do need a clear plan for youth development. Pol Doherty doing a great job but more to do. On a positive note, our co executive are getting on really well with the "plan for Belfast" and there will be obvious spin offs for the greater Belfast area which extends to most SW parts too.
Don't be too critical because there is good news on this score coming down the tracks. Of course CB I know you will be gracious enough to acknowledge that when the time comes.

Not all doom and gloom. The age old chill between social club members and the county has sorted itself out and a healthy cheque changed hands recently which the county treasurer gratefully accepted. Rome wasn't built in a day. Some very positive developments are ongoing/taking place. Credit please where it's due!

genuine question- what progress has been made on the 'plan for Belfast ' ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 22, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Far from it Stillwater! At the minute there are 4 names going forward to interview. Still far from certain who the next manager will be. Interviews to take place during the next few weeks and all will be revealed then.
U in co board BS....seem to know more than most..?
Have we decided on 21 and minor management...any applicants or we head hunting ?

Still no answer CB? How much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 23, 2017, 07:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 22, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Far from it Stillwater! At the minute there are 4 names going forward to interview. Still far from certain who the next manager will be. Interviews to take place during the next few weeks and all will be revealed then.
U in co board BS....seem to know more than most..?
Have we decided on 21 and minor management...any applicants or we head hunting ?

Still no answer CB? How much?
I am sure it could be a lot or possibly nothing.... but why would this concern you...if Cargin are indeed paying JB look around our club if u ever make it to Toome that is, and when u take a peek at our facilities and indeed current standing u will figure out there is no austerity here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2017, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2017, 07:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 22, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Far from it Stillwater! At the minute there are 4 names going forward to interview. Still far from certain who the next manager will be. Interviews to take place during the next few weeks and all will be revealed then.
U in co board BS....seem to know more than most..?
Have we decided on 21 and minor management...any applicants or we head hunting ?

Still no answer CB? How much?
I am sure it could be a lot or possibly nothing.... but why would this concern you...if Cargin are indeed paying JB look around our club if u ever make it to Toome that is, and when u take a peek at our facilities and indeed current standing u will figure out there is no austerity here.

Just your double standards I suppose .. you're talking about who'll be funding these big names and harp on about no austerity in Cargin, why don't you fund a big name if you're county proud?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 23, 2017, 08:49:29 AM
AIDAN O'Rourke has emerged as the new frontrunner to take over the Antrim senior football post.

Armagh's All-Ireland winning defender has been approached about taking the the job as have former Antrim defender John McKeever and former St Gall's boss Lenny Harbinson.

Current boss Frank Fitzsimons, who managed the Saffrons with Gearoid Adams over the past couple of seasons, was the only person nominated but the chances of the big Lamh Dhearg man retaining the post now appear slim.

Several weeks ago, Adams had already indicated he would not be part of a nominations process.

The deadline for nominations was Monday August 14 – with Fitzsimons the only candidate to be put forward.

However, that deadline appears to have been extended after O'Rourke, McKeever and Harbinson were announced as contenders for the job at Monday night's county board meeting.

Several club delegates expressed their outrage upon hearing other candidates had emerged after the deadline.

Running parallel to the nominations process, a three-man review committee has the power to seek out 'expressions of interest' from other managers.

The trio linked to the post come with impressive CVs.

O'Rourke has had coaching stints with Armagh, Down and Louth and is GAA Development Officer at Queen's.

The Dromintee man was unveiled as Queen's new manager a couple of weeks ago but that would appear an easy enough hurdle to overcome should the Antrim post be offered to him.

Not only are O'Rourke's credentials impressive, facilities wouldn't be an issue either with Queen's sporting complex in south Belfast meeting every team's needs.

Several years ago O'Rourke met with Antrim officials about becoming the next senior manager but funding his ambitious plans appeared the main stumbling block.

McKeever is currently managing Tyrone club Coalisland and guided them to their first senior county final in six years in 2016.

The Portglenone man also won an All-Ireland Intermediate title with Fr Rocks Cookstown in 2013.

McKeever represented Antrim with distinction at all levels during the 'Noughties' until a knee injury ended his playing days prematurely.

It was initially felt the 36-year-old was not interested in becoming Antrim's next manager but he could still be interviewed for the job.

Lenny Harbinson is also another late contender following Monday night's county board meeting.

The former Antrim and St Gall's forward has always expressed an interest in managing his native county at some stage in his career and he also comes with a weighty CV.

After several near misses, Harbinson took the reins and guided St Gall's to an All-Ireland senior title in 2010 and is generally regarded as one of the best coaches in the county.

He has held a couple of different managerial positions since his time with St Gall's and is currently managing Ballymacnab in Armagh.

After winning promotion to Division Three last year, the Antrim footballers suffered cruel relegation back to the basement division on the last day of the group stages.

They were outclassed by Donegal in the Ulster Championship and lost to Sligo in the All-Ireland Qualifiers.

Despite their disappointing results, both Fitzsimons and Adams embarked on a radical rebuild of the senior squad.

With a clutch of experienced players calling time on their inter-county careers, the managerial pair flooded the senior team with fresh young talent and appeared to be making headway - but obviously not enough for the county board to retain the pair.

It is understood a group of senior players will meet with county officers over the coming days to discuss their requirements going forward.

It is expected the three emerging candidates will be interviewed before the middle of September.

Fitzsimons has already met with the review committee at the end of Antrim's season.

It's unclear whether he will be interviewed again should he continue his interest in holding the post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 23, 2017, 09:07:37 AM
There you go! Good stuff PJ.

Podge re your question I'm sorry but I don't have very much detail. Talks are ongoing but relevant officials have reported that good progress is being made in discussions and that things are progressing nicely. We'll have to wait a bit longer for the specifics, but as I said quite a few times, this board will leave our county in a far stronger position than they found it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 23, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
I think the GAA needs to move away from appointing managers via the nominations route.  Members are elected into the positions on the county board to make decisions and they should be left to making these decisions in private without a whole hullabalu in the public gaze. Otherwise you just end up with far too many cooks, too many people getting offended or unwilling to be considered as the process unfolds in the open.  Closed shop for me with the responsibility starting and ending within a small conclave.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2017, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2017, 10:29:52 AM
Surely it was obvious they'd be looking someone else this year?

Yeah I would have thought that didnt need pointing out to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 24, 2017, 04:23:58 PM
Banty has just left Wexford too..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on August 24, 2017, 06:24:13 PM
I hear Mckeever is looking £80,000 for him and his team hope the saffron vision have a big cheque book. Im sure the management committee havnt let the clubs know that yet. Lets be honest we r no where near a team that will challenge for honours worth spending that money. If we have that money give it to paul doc and his team to enhance their good work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 24, 2017, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on August 24, 2017, 06:24:13 PM
I hear Mckeever is looking £80,000 for him and his team hope the saffron vision have a big cheque book. Im sure the management committee havnt let the clubs know that yet. Lets be honest we r no where near a team that will challenge for honours worth spending that money. If we have that money give it to paul doc and his team to enhance their good work.

Source?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on August 24, 2017, 07:21:02 PM
Dont know if mckeever is looking that money or even if hes interested.but 80000 is nothing in terms of a senior management team.also i would like to think that pd would b getting that sort of budget anyway.there is a certain level if professionalism needed for any county team/delevopment whether it is an u8 team ir whatever and u cannot do that without investment. great to c a postive step from antrim.penny pinched for 50 years and got nowhere.whether it b mckeever/o rourke or banty i dont mind as they will bring antrim up a level, like being a div2 side instead of a yoyo team between bottom and rock bottom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 24, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
'I hear...'  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 24, 2017, 09:26:20 PM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/fitzsimons-withdraws-from-antrim-managerial-race/

Thanks for the effort Fitzy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 24, 2017, 09:32:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 24, 2017, 09:26:20 PM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/fitzsimons-withdraws-from-antrim-managerial-race/

Thanks for the effort Fitzy.
A lotta head hanging.....big gentleman who gave his all in the Saffron cause.
A few armchairs and settees will need turned over I fear as we make replacement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on August 24, 2017, 11:22:13 PM
Fitzy gave alot of time to Antrim for many years from Minor to u21 to senior and always done his very best with the limited resources he had. Lots of people especially in Antrim are quick to criticise our best volunteers. Thats what Fitzy was a volunteer unlike all these so called replacements. Best thing is ul not hear any sour grapes about his treatment in the papers he wouldnt run down his county in any way. No doubt some team will pick up a very good manager/coach very soon. Best of luck Fitzy and thanks for all your efforts in improving Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on August 25, 2017, 08:45:58 AM
There is a fine line between critiquing and wanting more for Antrim. Suggesting that we need a fresh new manager to bring on the new, young talent in the county doesn't amount to belittling Fitzy for standing up when no one else would. Every one is thankful for Fitzy's service but he said widely at the start of the year this was his last year and he should have stuck to that.

Quote from: bit of banter on August 24, 2017, 11:22:13 PM
Fitzy gave alot of time to Antrim for many years from Minor to u21 to senior and always done his very best with the limited resources he had. Lots of people especially in Antrim are quick to criticise our best volunteers. Thats what Fitzy was a volunteer unlike all these so called replacements. Best thing is ul not hear any sour grapes about his treatment in the papers he wouldnt run down his county in any way. No doubt some team will pick up a very good manager/coach very soon. Best of luck Fitzy and thanks for all your efforts in improving Antrim.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 25, 2017, 09:23:51 AM
Yeah look Fitzy has been a brilliant servant for Antrim but it simply has not worked out.  The man cannot be faulted for his efforts and he is just one in a long line of managers who has for one reason or another not been able to achieve his goals. 

As an individual he is an absolute top man but at the same time there is no room for sentiment in top level sport so hopefully he goes on to have massive success in his future roles while also hoping Antrim's next appointment sees us start to kick on.

We will not know until a few years down the line whether the next person will be any better but we have to try.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
Pearses through to jfc semi final... apparently mitchells turned up with 12 players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
Pearses through to jfc semi final... apparently mitchells turned up with 12 players

Jesus!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2017, 10:01:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2017, 09:58:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
Pearses through to jfc semi final... apparently mitchells turned up with 12 players

Jesus!!!!!!!!
Is that a big surprise really? Mitchell's have been really struggling for a while now.

Gilly was probably their 12th player. ;D

Sad to see all the same.

At senior club level they should at least bring 15 to Championship!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2017, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2017, 10:05:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2017, 10:01:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2017, 09:58:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
Pearses through to jfc semi final... apparently mitchells turned up with 12 players

Jesus!!!!!!!!
Is that a big surprise really? Mitchell's have been really struggling for a while now.

Gilly was probably their 12th player. ;D

Sad to see all the same.

At senior club level they should at least bring 15 to Championship!
They don't have them, or it would take very little for them not to have them.
They've a couple on the county panel that Naomh Gall robbed mind you.


I jest, of course.

Four if you jest right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
It's no surprise at all, but at the same time it's shocking they didn't manage to get a team out. Half their team is made up of 50 year olds and basques. At what point do you draw the line?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 25, 2017, 10:22:59 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
It's no surprise at all, but at the same time it's shocking they didn't manage to get a team out. Half their team is made up of 50 year olds and basques. At what point do you draw the line?

Exactly, watched them a few times in Div3 and they turn up with bare 15 or less!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 27, 2017, 09:32:11 PM
See we are on the 'night shift' again :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 29, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
weekend football championship predictions

sarsfields to beat pearses 10+
lisburn to beat st aggies by 3
cargin to beat aghagallon by 10
st galls to beat lamh dhearg by 3
dunloy to beat antrim by 10
st endas to beat st brigids by 3
moneyglass to beat gort by 6
creggan to beat ahoghill by 6
st johns to beat glenavy by 6
ballymena to beat glenravel by 10+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 31, 2017, 08:38:09 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 29, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
weekend football championship predictions

sarsfields to beat pearses 10+ - agree
lisburn to beat st aggies by 3 - more
cargin to beat aghagallon by 10 - again probably not far off
st galls to beat lamh dhearg by 3 - at least
dunloy to beat antrim by 10 - I would say single figure win for Dunloy
st endas to beat st brigids by 3 - this game could go wither way
moneyglass to beat gort by 6 - might be closer
creggan to beat ahoghill by 6 - Creggan by more
st johns to beat glenavy by 6 - St Johns by more
ballymena to beat glenravel by 10+ - yeah this could be a cricket score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
Lamh dearg beat st galls by 4 in what was apparently a clinker of a game. Is this the first time this century anyone bar cargin has beat st galls??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 01, 2017, 09:42:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
Lamh dearg beat st galls by 4 in what was apparently a clinker of a game. Is this the first time this century anyone bar cargin has beat st galls??

See my earlier long live the kings post. This was expected. It's not a shock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2017, 09:49:04 PM
Yeah sorry didn't read back. Still thought st galls in championship might beat them. Cargin got it tighter than expected from lamh dhearg.

Fair play to lisburn in a county final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 01, 2017, 10:33:13 PM
Good game at Corrigan alright. Big crowd and perfect conditions. Lamhs deserved winners especially after clawing back from seven points down after only a few minutes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2017, 12:33:49 AM
Cargin got it tight against a good Aghagallon side.......they do look a side with a future...

Brendan Crossan got it dead right.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2017, 08:13:43 AM
On another note it is very rare people have been talking about a good game in the antrim football championship...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
I wasn't at it, our club had 3 games on at the same time, so I watched our minors progress to the final of the minor b hurling final... cracking game, was updated by Antrim twitter and others at the game... seems to been an error stricken game, 5 goals!! That will surely boost Lamhs confidence been 25 years since they last beat us... good luck to them. Cargin stumbled but havevthe experience to get out on top!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 02, 2017, 08:56:23 AM
End of an era for stgalls and maybe 4 antrim football.they did put antrim club football on a prov.and all ireland stage.a great team over the last 15 years with exceptional players regardless of the clubs they originated from.well done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: reddog on September 02, 2017, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
I wasn't at it, our club had 3 games on at the same time, so I watched our minors progress to the final of the minor b hurling final... cracking game, was updated by Antrim twitter and others at the game... seems to been an error stricken game, 5 goals!! That will surely boost Lamhs confidence been 25 years since they last beat us... good luck to them. Cargin stumbled but havevthe experience to get out on top!

A long time but not 25 years. Lamhs won qf 1999 by 8 or 9 but your sentiment is true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2017, 11:37:40 AM
It was a good game ITG. Is this golden era for St Galls is finally over? You had Aoghan Gallagher, Terry O Neill, Ciaran Mc Gourty, Sean Kelly, Colin Brady, Kevin Niblock all on the pitch at the end last night, and you have to wonder will they have the appetite to go on much longer, especially with a chest full of medals in the drawer and the knowledge that Father Time might have caught up on them. The heart might be willing but the legs will have the final say on that.

If they do call it a day, then they do so with a legacy that will possibly never be replaced in Antrim football. Its not my place to write their epitaph, individually or collectively, as one or two may plough on for another year or two, but its clear the writing is on the wall. Having said that Sean Kelly looked like a teenager on the pitch last night and should have played the full game. And Niblock, who was the pivotal reason Galls got past us (Casements) in the preliminary round, was only on the pitch for the last ten minutes. Had Kelly been on earlier, and Nibs been fit, a different result last night would not have surprised me.

Challenge now for LD is to see if they can kick on themselves now they have this monkey finally off their back.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2017, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 02, 2017, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
I wasn't at it, our club had 3 games on at the same time, so I watched our minors progress to the final of the minor b hurling final... cracking game, was updated by Antrim twitter and others at the game... seems to been an error stricken game, 5 goals!! That will surely boost Lamhs confidence been 25 years since they last beat us... good luck to them. Cargin stumbled but havevthe experience to get out on top!

A long time but not 25 years. Lamhs won qf 1999 by 8 or 9 but your sentiment is true

Yes was at it! Sorry lazy memory... can you kick on though??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 02, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 02, 2017, 08:13:43 AM
On another note it is very rare people have been talking about a good game in the antrim football championship...

Unfortunately only good because the standard has dropped. St Galls would have won by as many as they wanted previously.

Would like to see LD go on and win it and with the 2 Murrays and no 11 they have a chance but i cant see past Cargin.

If Kelly was on earlier and Niblock as you said Bannside the result wouldve been different. 2 shots for points dropped short and bundled in...even with St Galls decline lady luck was on LDs side...im not being disparaging...it simply was. It's up to them to kick on now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
Lady Luck? Lamhs scored 3-14 - that's a lot of luck!   .....sour grapes?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2017, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
Lady Luck? Lamhs scored 3-14 - that's a lot of luck!   .....sour grapes?
Big win for the Hannahstown men and they do look major contenders...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 04, 2017, 12:48:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 03, 2017, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
Lady Luck? Lamhs scored 3-14 - that's a lot of luck!   .....sour grapes?
Big win for the Hannahstown men and they do look major contenders...

LOL, wise up.  Cargin at a canter however, even with a SFC win and a league win, the season for Cargin will still be considered to be a SHAMBLES without a win in Ulster. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 06, 2017, 02:32:25 PM
What is going on in South Antrim under-age ?

Just a single representative in the remaining teams in the minor A and B champioships.....Rossa last man standing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 06, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Noticed that alright. Poor state of affairs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 06, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Noticed that alright. Poor state of affairs.

It's hectic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 06, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Noticed that alright. Poor state of affairs.

It's hectic

I believe that if we are to stand any chance of progressing as a county we need to get it right in the city.  What I see now around Antrim is by and large all the best facilities are in the country.  Yes you do not need top facilities to produce top teams as St Galls have proven for a long time now but I just worry that the game is continuing to go the wrong way in the city and this is possibly good evidence that this is the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 06, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Noticed that alright. Poor state of affairs.

It's hectic

I believe that if we are to stand any chance of progressing as a county we need to get it right in the city.  What I see now around Antrim is by and large all the best facilities are in the country.  Yes you do not need top facilities to produce top teams as St Galls have proven for a long time now but I just worry that the game is continuing to go the wrong way in the city and this is possibly good evidence that this is the case.

Clubs around the city are starting to improve, Sarsfields, St Pauls and Davitts are all building new changing rooms and pitches and deserve credit for doing so. The 4 new council 3G/4g pitches at Cliftonville Rd, Sally Gardens, Woodlands and The Ozone on the Ormeau Park have also have brought some clubs up to speed.

There is no doubt about it that Belfast are lacking in a massive way in terms of 2nd and even 3rd pitches in some cases but ask any country clubs who have went through a barren spell and I'm sure they would swap some grandeur for silverware.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Sorry I meant the poor showing in the later stages of the minor championship was perhaps evidence.  But yes city teams seem to have got behind a bit in terms of facilities as well - I find myself more likely to put the kids in wellie boots for visiting city grounds these days - ironic :)  So yes PaddyJohn - it will be interesting to see if the city teams working at upgrading their facilities are the ones to come to the fore at underage in future years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Sorry I meant the poor showing in the later stages of the minor championship was perhaps evidence.  But yes city teams seem to have got behind a bit in terms of facilities as well - I find myself more likely to put the kids in wellie boots for visiting city grounds these days - ironic :)  So yes PaddyJohn - it will be interesting to see if the city teams working at upgrading their facilities are the ones to come to the fore at underage in future years.

I was talking to a Sarsfields man during the summer at an underage hurling blitz and he says in terms of enticing youngsters through their gates their new 3G pitch and floodlighting has been a godsend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Sorry I meant the poor showing in the later stages of the minor championship was perhaps evidence.  But yes city teams seem to have got behind a bit in terms of facilities as well - I find myself more likely to put the kids in wellie boots for visiting city grounds these days - ironic :)  So yes PaddyJohn - it will be interesting to see if the city teams working at upgrading their facilities are the ones to come to the fore at underage in future years.

You'd think that this would have a knock on effect and the youth would want to play in these kinda places but that doesn't always happen. Dunloy are starting to reap the rewards of the indoor academy.

Its a simple system in my opinion, get your coaches in place in the schools, get the parents on board and hopefully things will start to change through time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Sorry I meant the poor showing in the later stages of the minor championship was perhaps evidence.  But yes city teams seem to have got behind a bit in terms of facilities as well - I find myself more likely to put the kids in wellie boots for visiting city grounds these days - ironic :)  So yes PaddyJohn - it will be interesting to see if the city teams working at upgrading their facilities are the ones to come to the fore at underage in future years.

I was talking to a Sarsfields man during the summer at an underage hurling blitz and he says in terms of enticing youngsters through their gates their new 3G pitch and floodlighting has been a godsend.

Yeah my gut feeling is that the like of Sarsfields will prosper with the great work they have been doing at their grounds but in an ideal world a lot of city clubs would get investment to try and create the conditions that attract a high proportion of the youth to come and play Gaelic games.  Then we will see our potential as a county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Sorry I meant the poor showing in the later stages of the minor championship was perhaps evidence.  But yes city teams seem to have got behind a bit in terms of facilities as well - I find myself more likely to put the kids in wellie boots for visiting city grounds these days - ironic :)  So yes PaddyJohn - it will be interesting to see if the city teams working at upgrading their facilities are the ones to come to the fore at underage in future years.

You'd think that this would have a knock on effect and the youth would want to play in these kinda places but that doesn't always happen. Dunloy are starting to reap the rewards of the indoor academy.

Its a simple system in my opinion, get your coaches in place in the schools, get the parents on board and hopefully things will start to change through time.

Parental input is massive, possibly the most important factor but this is another factor that can be influenced by facilities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Whatever do you mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

A standing terrace is gold plating, yes it would be great but an indoor facility would be way more desirable for me.  Of course if you were giving me both I would be delighted but the ability to coach the kids all year round in all conditions would be massive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

A standing terrace is gold plating, yes it would be great but an indoor facility would be way more desirable for me.  Of course if you were giving me both I would be delighted but the ability to coach the kids all year round in all conditions would be massive.

How much more expensive would it be to up grade the facilities in Belfast... no free land about in the City, no real partnerships to be built on with our friends over the wall, no funds it seems to had from Croke.... our club runs many a function Gala fundraisers but that's to maintain the amount of teams we put out and the current facilities we have....

cause the country teams recently have lifted their game means what? ten pitches wont win you championships or produce great Antrim teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

A standing terrace is gold plating, yes it would be great but an indoor facility would be way more desirable for me.  Of course if you were giving me both I would be delighted but the ability to coach the kids all year round in all conditions would be massive.

How much more expensive would it be to up grade the facilities in Belfast... no free land about in the City, no real partnerships to be built on with our friends over the wall, no funds it seems to had from Croke.... our club runs many a function Gala fundraisers but that's to maintain the amount of teams we put out and the current facilities we have....

cause the country teams recently have lifted their game means what? ten pitches wont win you championships or produce great Antrim teams

I admit I do not know the detail of what is happening with youth in nationalists parts of the city in terms of sporting involvement and what sports they pursue but given the size of the population you would expect to have a number of brutally strong underage GAA setups in the city.  A lack of minor teams in the late stages of both A and B minor competitions suggests this may not be the case. 

There is an interest at government level to ensure that young people are involved in physical activity with Public Health Agency guidelines recognising benefits to health , education etc.  There may be a case to assist GAA facilities that promote physical activity among young people.  If kids are participating in other sports then the case is weakened but if they are not then surely there is a strong case for financial support?

Ten pitches will not win you championships or produce a great county team but if you have those 10 pitches filled every night of the week I would suggest that you would have a better chance than most.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Whatever do you mean?

Typo  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

A standing terrace is gold plating, yes it would be great but an indoor facility would be way more desirable for me.  Of course if you were giving me both I would be delighted but the ability to coach the kids all year round in all conditions would be massive.

How much more expensive would it be to up grade the facilities in Belfast... no free land about in the City, no real partnerships to be built on with our friends over the wall, no funds it seems to had from Croke.... our club runs many a function Gala fundraisers but that's to maintain the amount of teams we put out and the current facilities we have....

cause the country teams recently have lifted their game means what? ten pitches wont win you championships or produce great Antrim teams

I admit I do not know the detail of what is happening with youth in nationalists parts of the city in terms of sporting involvement and what sports they pursue but given the size of the population you would expect to have a number of brutally strong underage GAA setups in the city.  A lack of minor teams in the late stages of both A and B minor competitions suggests this may not be the case. 

There is an interest at government level to ensure that young people are involved in physical activity with Public Health Agency guidelines recognising benefits to health , education etc.  There may be a case to assist GAA facilities that promote physical activity among young people.  If kids are participating in other sports then the case is weakened but if they are not then surely there is a strong case for financial support?

Ten pitches will not win you championships or produce a great county team but if you have those 10 pitches filled every night of the week I would suggest that you would have a better chance than most.

Quite right. Of course its not a guarantee but surely it increases the likelihood of a real gem being part of it and raised through the process.  Havent seen a land map or planning regulations but St Galls seem to have a bit space around them to develop the facilities as well as prime location.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
the indoor academy does help us yes but as others have said its having the kids there along with good coaches that makes it work. without the latter its just a big empty building that can be hired out for indoor football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
the indoor academy does help us yes but as others have said its having the kids there along with good coaches that makes it work. without the latter its just a big empty building that can be hired out for indoor football.

Soccer football, are you serious? 




:'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
the indoor academy does help us yes but as others have said its having the kids there along with good coaches that makes it work. without the latter its just a big empty building that can be hired out for indoor football.

Soccer football, are you serious? 




:'(

7 aside Gaelic..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2017, 03:41:08 PM
Also important to note that championships have been won by manys a club with everyday facilities. Apathy in the adult population (interested volunteers, parents, club members etc) is the number one issues which limits clubs. Facilities (or at least access to facilities) will look after themselves if every club had more interested adults playing a part in their club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?

3 lost 3 finals also!! Ah the ones that get away are the hardest to take
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?

3 lost 3 finals also!! Ah the ones that get away are the hardest to take


Is there talent coming through to get you back to another one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?

3 lost 3 finals also!! Ah the ones that get away are the hardest to take


Is there talent coming through to get you back to another one?

I suppose it could be said it took us 30 years after 82 to win our next one.. that's how it goes, you are with a club aren't you? You understand that you can't always win these titles, other teams improve... Cross are struggling and no one thought they would.

I'd say your club must be close to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?

3 lost 3 finals also!! Ah the ones that get away are the hardest to take


Is there talent coming through to get you back to another one?

I suppose it could be said it took us 30 years after 82 to win our next one.. that's how it goes, you are with a club aren't you? You understand that you can't always win these titles, other teams improve... Cross are struggling and no one thought they would.

I'd say your club must be close to it

My club? nah, not yet. Hopefully someday we could reach that position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?

3 lost 3 finals also!! Ah the ones that get away are the hardest to take


Is there talent coming through to get you back to another one?

I suppose it could be said it took us 30 years after 82 to win our next one.. that's how it goes, you are with a club aren't you? You understand that you can't always win these titles, other teams improve... Cross are struggling and no one thought they would.

I'd say your club must be close to it

My club? nah, not yet. Hopefully someday we could reach that position.

You sure?? I thought with the SW domination at the minute that it would be only a matter of months??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 07, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
facilities and parents attitude seem to be the biggest factors allied to of course natural ability, attitude and numbers which are essential. The teams that invested years ago in facilities seem to be coming together now. St Galls' dubious noughties recruitment policy is of course one way of circumvent the lack of facilities proving them the exception rather than the rule. Dunloy have one hell of a set up and fair play to them.   One wonders who will be the first central SW club to get a standing terrace constructed to be the jewel in the crown.

Not one club in Antrim has got a player from another club... current County champions seem to avoid any of this but sure work away lad.... the lads now regret being part of the club I'm sure

you're right, no one else can say they didn't. St Galls just were much much better at the post code lottery than everyone else #justsaying

Much better club steeped in history of winning Ulster titles and the odd All Ireland finals

Out of curiosity, how many Ulster titles have St Galls won?

3 lost 3 finals also!! Ah the ones that get away are the hardest to take


Is there talent coming through to get you back to another one?

I suppose it could be said it took us 30 years after 82 to win our next one.. that's how it goes, you are with a club aren't you? You understand that you can't always win these titles, other teams improve... Cross are struggling and no one thought they would.

I'd say your club must be close to it

My club? nah, not yet. Hopefully someday we could reach that position.

You sure?? I thought with the SW domination at the minute that it would be only a matter of months??

Rome wasn't built in a day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 10:14:15 PM
Well I suppose with the GAA having been around over 100 odd years it's bound to hit the SW at some point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:18:52 PM
Think the SW point is more in terms of the spread of teams.

You might have a dominant team hailing fron SW or SA but the spread behind that is interesting.

I just think that with the population in Belfast, all things being equal, you should see some seriously strong outfits from there. In these circumstances you should see particularly strong underage teams.

This is clearly not the case. Everyone knows that the potential of the large population is nowhere near fulfilled. 

Of course all things are not equal and I wonder how the population can be tapped into to greater effect.

Or do you settle for trying to keep what you have got?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2017, 10:53:35 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2017, 10:18:52 PM
Think the SW point is more in terms of the spread of teams.

You might have a dominant team hailing fron SW or SA but the spread behind that is interesting.

I just think that with the population in Belfast, all things being equal, you should see some seriously strong outfits from there. In these circumstances you should see particularly strong underage teams.

This is clearly not the case. Everyone knows that the potential of the large population is nowhere near fulfilled. 

Of course all things are not equal and I wonder how the population can be tapped into to greater effect.

Or do you settle for trying to keep what you have got?

Many a country team wins the club finals... the list way outnumbers what city teams have produced so I'm not sure what population has got to do with this... two seasons of teams from rural Antrim doesn't mean the City had gone to shit!! Johnnies in the 70's 80's ourselves in the 80's St Paul's 90's and other city teams Cargin twice then for over a decade we did!

These things come in cycles, you agree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2017, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
the indoor academy does help us yes but as others have said its having the kids there along with good coaches that makes it work. without the latter its just a big empty building that can be hired out for indoor football.

Soccer football, are you serious? 




:'(

Its a valued revenue during the close season in GAA that helps to pay back the money it took to build it. That and being hired out the local archery club in Ballymoney, model plane flying club and birthday parties.

All money in our coffers to pay off the debet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2017, 08:31:26 AM
Of course these things come in cycles in terms of an individual clubs success.  With the population I see massive potential.  This may not be relevant to any one city club on their own. 

In some country clubs the local primary school might have less than 10 boys in any given year group.  Even if you get all these lads out chances are by the time you even hit U12 your team might consist of 6 of these guys if you are lucky, maybe another 6 from the year below and maybe 3 the year below that. 

If the population was able to be tapped into in the city you would only be playing guys in underage teams not in their final year that are really talented.  And in general the more you get out, the more chance you have of unearthing talent.

I know from my own experience I came through a particularly strong group at my club but this was greatly helped by the fact in my year group there were 19 or 20 boys.  In the year above there were 6 boys.

All Ireland level has worked in cycles too but now that Dublin has harnessed their population potential it is very hard to see them ever having to wait approx. 20 yrs for an All Ireland.

Look I am not trying to put down what any of the city clubs have.  I am simply looking from afar and wondering how many really strong clubs and how many top players there could be if the city population could somehow be harnessed into Gaelic games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 09:57:14 AM
The city has massive distractions unlike the country clubs in rural Ireland, as for Dublin they have the whole population working or studying there at some point and they have clubs with 6 senior teams at both codes to facilitate all abilities

Dublin unlike Belfast don't have half the population because they hate the GAA and all it stands for, Belfast doesn't  have the council backing them (though that's changing slowly) then if you look at the schools (primary first) its getting worse in Belfast as most teachers are female and less time it seems being put into getting the kids early (for me that's what keeps them at it) and then at secondary school its mainly at 2 schools....

my own school never had soccer at it and now it seems that all they play, so half the population that could have been enticed to play GAA is now split again, so we are left with a small pool, that pool gets smaller once kids get into other sports, athletics cycling running and then the main sport of all drinking!!!

I said before Belfast has too many clubs, we've 20 clubs I think Cork have 18 (not sure though) Belfast is a divided city and Cork is not.

Population seems to be banded about a lot and linked to success but the only thing that links a club to success is the effort of its mentors, parents and a bitta luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
Yeah look it is a difficult one but if possible I would like to see all efforts at maximizing the participation.  Maybe this is already the case. 

As far as soccer is concerned though a lot of country lads are playing soccer as well as other sports.  The distractions are there in the country as well.  In my house it is hurling and football while also martial arts and swimming and plenty of the mates are doing similar.  That said it takes a fair commitment both in terms of time and finance to keep battering on all fronts not helped by some of these pursuits requiring travel so this could be another potential barrier in some cases I suppose. 

Feck knows and I know it has been debated to death but there still must be a fair few thousand kids in the target zone for participation in Belfast.  It would be great to see the numbers taking part increase.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 08, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
Yeah look it is a difficult one but if possible I would like to see all efforts at maximizing the participation.  Maybe this is already the case. 

As far as soccer is concerned though a lot of country lads are playing soccer as well as other sports.  The distractions are there in the country as well.  In my house it is hurling and football while also martial arts and swimming and plenty of the mates are doing similar.  That said it takes a fair commitment both in terms of time and finance to keep battering on all fronts not helped by some of these pursuits requiring travel so this could be another potential barrier in some cases I suppose. 

Feck knows and I know it has been debated to death but there still must be a fair few thousand kids in the target zone for participation in Belfast.  It would be great to see the numbers taking part increase.

I hear ya and I know from first hand experience of taking juvenile teams and working within the west Belfast with disadvantaged 16 years olds, a lot have zero commitment or motivation for most parts, getting them to attend classes or gain employment would have been hard enough without pushing them towards GAA... I tried to get lads involved with other training centres to get a team in the college leagues!! 4 lads turned up and that was because there was a free lunch involved..

Its not getting worse, and some of the clubs in Belfast have big numbers still, they just don't have the man power or system to turn those young lads into committed hurlers/footballers .. but it will come around again for the city.. Id say we've a batch of lads, mentors and parents that will make a difference sooner rather than later in one of the codes, we've just got to make it stick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2017, 10:50:22 AM
Yeah fair enough.  And quite often the issues have to be hitting everyone up the face before there is a sustained effort rather than relying on the like of yourself to keep things ticking over.  And then of course after that it takes a few years to see the harvest come to fruition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on September 08, 2017, 11:38:49 AM
There is definitely a correlation between the teams in the South West having success and those teams being close to St Mary's M/Felt, and St Louis Ballymena. Playing school football at a high level cannot be underestimated. St Mary's and St Malachy's seem to be making head way, has there been Ulster Coaches put in to these schools recently or is that hearsay? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on September 08, 2017, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2017, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
the indoor academy does help us yes but as others have said its having the kids there along with good coaches that makes it work. without the latter its just a big empty building that can be hired out for indoor football.

Soccer football, are you serious? 




:'(

Its a valued revenue during the close season in GAA that helps to pay back the money it took to build it. That and being hired out the local archery club in Ballymoney, model plane flying club and birthday parties.

All money in our coffers to pay off the debet

I'm only on the wind.

We do the same ourselves with our ballwall and perimeter track.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2017, 12:15:34 PM
We could talk about it all day. Key is getting schools both primary and secondary to allow coaches in and promote GAA instead of other sports, also parents have to play a huge role.

Its easy for me to comment on it as I grew up with GAA only and a family that were all involved in some capacity within the club, it was second nature. Our Sundays were spent in the car going around watching different games, I'm not saying I had a special upbringing but it was second nature to me and that is why I've continued to be a part of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2017, 12:42:24 PM
That's why I was touching on facilities though.  Everything that can help attract and all that - and that maybe especially applies to parents.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2017, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 08, 2017, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2017, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 07, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
the indoor academy does help us yes but as others have said its having the kids there along with good coaches that makes it work. without the latter its just a big empty building that can be hired out for indoor football.

Soccer football, are you serious? 




:'(

Its a valued revenue during the close season in GAA that helps to pay back the money it took to build it. That and being hired out the local archery club in Ballymoney, model plane flying club and birthday parties.

All money in our coffers to pay off the debet

I'm only on the wind.

We do the same ourselves with our ballwall and perimeter track.

;D to be fair if it wasnt for that then we would need more fund raisers to pay back the debt for it. All money is good money lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 08, 2017, 10:07:25 PM
Sad to see Paul Doc has left Antrim GAA. He was doing great work around the schools and development squads. Big loss!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 11:24:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 08, 2017, 10:07:25 PM
Sad to see Paul Doc has left Antrim GAA. He was doing great work around the schools and development squads. Big loss!

Well according to some here they'd say the staff do feck all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2017, 07:46:37 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 08, 2017, 10:07:25 PM
Sad to see Paul Doc has left Antrim GAA. He was doing great work around the schools and development squads. Big loss!

Paul did massive work, a gentleman also. Sad to see him go, did his work in a quiet way, not like some of those who represent the county in other ways.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 09:23:04 AM
I'm not going to shift through posts but there are a few who question the work these lads do... now when one moves on to work somewhere else they get praise... you're a strange bunch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 09, 2017, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 11:24:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 08, 2017, 10:07:25 PM
Sad to see Paul Doc has left Antrim GAA. He was doing great work around the schools and development squads. Big loss!

Well according to some here they'd say the staff do feck all!

A handful of coaches to cover all the primary schools in Antrim! Don't know about the others but I know Paul Doc was earning his money. With the Primary School KS1 coaching fund being cut and losing good coaches like Paul, it is going to have a major impact on underage development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 10, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
Mr2 excuses,excuses,excuses.city teams have had the best of it for years,now city teams have to work abit and all you can do is cry about it.country teams would love to go to there primary school and pick from 100+ in there parish.most clubs fight for there players to get them through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 10, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
Here's a thought on coaches that goes against the grain - we need to spend more money on full time fixtures organisers and planners and if that has to be at the expense of paid coaches so be it. Players want to play matches over training and if Antrim GAA can not provide kids with 40 odd matches a year they will get bored of training and go to other sports........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2017, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: Galer on September 10, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
Mr2 excuses,excuses,excuses.city teams have had the best of it for years,now city teams have to work abit and all you can do is cry about it.country teams would love to go to there primary school and pick from 100+ in there parish.most clubs fight for there players to get them through

At no point did I cry, I'm very happy with the history of GAA in Belfast considering the years of the troubles.. St. John's played an all Ireland final we played in two won one, football at school level in Belfast has always been there as for the hurling they've done alright at school level also... all I've said is this ... it comes in cycles, Belfast doesn't own the right to win every year...

No parish type clubs in Belfast and again I must say Belfast is divided and we've 20 clubs all dual! Do the maths
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 10, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
More can be done MR2. Primary schools in the country might have anywhere between 5-15 P7 boys. You can guarantee most of those will play GAA. Go into the city schools (and there are many) and some P7 groups might have anywhere from 50-80 boys but only 1/4 of that will play GAA if you're lucky. How many Antrim coaches are going into those schools? How many clubs are sending coaches into those schools?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2017, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
More can be done MR2. Primary schools in the country might have anywhere between 5-15 P7 boys. You can guarantee most of those will play GAA. Go into the city schools (and there are many) and some P7 groups might have anywhere from 50-80 boys but only 1/4 of that will play GAA if you're lucky. How many Antrim coaches are going into those schools? How many clubs are sending coaches into those schools?

Because these kids are playing other sports, the soccer has a massive interest in Belfast, more than my day and parents are keen to see their wee Johnny playing in the Premiership or for Celtic! Would never had two local soccer teams of any notice when I grew up, plenty now, all playing regular games every week, never called off and good cup competitions... that's not just happening in Belfast, it's all over, blame Sky! We've plenty at the  club but keeping them and developing them  is the hardest task! But please lads don't think the GAA has stopped in Belfast or Antrim it's just going through a phase..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 12:06:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2017, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
More can be done MR2. Primary schools in the country might have anywhere between 5-15 P7 boys. You can guarantee most of those will play GAA. Go into the city schools (and there are many) and some P7 groups might have anywhere from 50-80 boys but only 1/4 of that will play GAA if you're lucky. How many Antrim coaches are going into those schools? How many clubs are sending coaches into those schools?

Because these kids are playing other sports, the soccer has a massive interest in Belfast, more than my day and parents are keen to see their wee Johnny playing in the Premiership or for Celtic! Would never had two local soccer teams of any notice when I grew up, plenty now, all playing regular games every week, never called off and good cup competitions... that's not just happening in Belfast, it's all over, blame Sky! We've plenty at the  club but keeping them and developing them  is the hardest task! But please lads don't think the GAA has stopped in Belfast or Antrim it's just going through a phase..

And being well looked after whilst playing for these clubs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2017, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
More can be done MR2. Primary schools in the country might have anywhere between 5-15 P7 boys. You can guarantee most of those will play GAA. Go into the city schools (and there are many) and some P7 groups might have anywhere from 50-80 boys but only 1/4 of that will play GAA if you're lucky. How many Antrim coaches are going into those schools? How many clubs are sending coaches into those schools?

Because these kids are playing other sports, the soccer has a massive interest in Belfast, more than my day and parents are keen to see their wee Johnny playing in the Premiership or for Celtic! Would never had two local soccer teams of any notice when I grew up, plenty now, all playing regular games every week, never called off and good cup competitions... that's not just happening in Belfast, it's all over, blame Sky! We've plenty at the  club but keeping them and developing them  is the hardest task! But please lads don't think the GAA has stopped in Belfast or Antrim it's just going through a phase..

We have soccer in Lurgan as well and most of our boys would all play for Lurgan Celtic and Lurgan Town underage teams as well. We have young lads who go to boxing, cycling, swimming etc in Lurgan. It is not as if it's Gaelic Football and that's it. Children have the option to play so many sports these days.  I know it's not the same as being a city club. But my point still stands that there is a lot more that can be done. Coaches from clubs, County, Ulster Council etc all need to be sent into the schools as much as possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
I am involved with running the Paul McGirr Ulster U16 tournament, does anyone know who won the Antrim U16 football championship this year or if it is over yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
I am involved with running the Paul McGirr Ulster U16 tournament, does anyone know who won the Antrim U16 football championship this year or if it is over yet?

Not over yet as far as I know. South West final this week and not sure if the South Antrim one is played yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on September 11, 2017, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
I am involved with running the Paul McGirr Ulster U16 tournament, does anyone know who won the Antrim U16 football championship this year or if it is over yet?

Not over yet as far as I know. South West final this week and not sure if the South Antrim one is played yet.

SA semi final on this Thursday, Final on 1st Oct

http://www.southantrimgaa.com/fixtures/?yr=2017&compid=157

Not sure when All County Final is, was 2nd of Oct last year, could be 8th Oct perhaps?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2017, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
More can be done MR2. Primary schools in the country might have anywhere between 5-15 P7 boys. You can guarantee most of those will play GAA. Go into the city schools (and there are many) and some P7 groups might have anywhere from 50-80 boys but only 1/4 of that will play GAA if you're lucky. How many Antrim coaches are going into those schools? How many clubs are sending coaches into those schools?

Because these kids are playing other sports, the soccer has a massive interest in Belfast, more than my day and parents are keen to see their wee Johnny playing in the Premiership or for Celtic! Would never had two local soccer teams of any notice when I grew up, plenty now, all playing regular games every week, never called off and good cup competitions... that's not just happening in Belfast, it's all over, blame Sky! We've plenty at the  club but keeping them and developing them  is the hardest task! But please lads don't think the GAA has stopped in Belfast or Antrim it's just going through a phase..

We have soccer in Lurgan as well and most of our boys would all play for Lurgan Celtic and Lurgan Town underage teams as well. We have young lads who go to boxing, cycling, swimming etc in Lurgan. It is not as if it's Gaelic Football and that's it. Children have the option to play so many sports these days.  I know it's not the same as being a city club. But my point still stands that there is a lot more that can be done. Coaches from clubs, County, Ulster Council etc all need to be sent into the schools as much as possible.

I know what you're saying but there really is no major problems in Belfast clubs just a bad couple of years, my own club has under 8's through to senior st both codes and ladies football at all levels senior and Junior teams, scor and Handball teams.. it's thriving just not winning, winning is a great goal but encouraging GAA on all its formats is the winner, I know our club will get their again, as do Rossa the Johnnies Sarsfields and the rest...

Schools need the help, I'm sure the plans are there and you've already alluded to the work that one coach was doing... how do you encourage a lad to the GAA when leagues aren't finished played or no regular set up? Soccer is run really well.. any ideas to run these games during the winter.. pitches seem to be ok for soccer and rugby!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 11, 2017, 09:50:36 PM
Mr2 r u serious.antrim football is in bad nick ans belfast is in real bother.teams cant even fufil fixtures.why did st endas join the south west leagues (u can have them back) if belfast r so strong.how many minor/u21 champ games have we won never mind senior.schools in a bad way,the whole county undercoached and pd going would help
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 11, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
Why is pd pulling the pin and is there a replacement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: Galer on September 11, 2017, 09:50:36 PM
Mr2 r u serious.antrim football is in bad nick ans belfast is in real bother.teams cant even fufil fixtures.why did st endas join the south west leagues (u can have them back) if belfast r so strong.how many minor/u21 champ games have we won never mind senior.schools in a bad way,the whole county undercoached and pd going would help

Hate text speak!

Wasn't talking about Antrim football, club football and clubs in general in Belfast.. I went to ref a under 21 hurling match (north Antrim) and the team never turned up for the championship match, crazy that, but hey I must have missed your post on that. 

But hey it's purely a south Antrim thing... as for under 18 and 21 grades we won 5 in a row and there was no one on from the South West complaining about how bad the South West was.. Antrim were still struggling but there seems to be that if Belfast isn't doing well then it effects the Antrim team?? Strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Think you are in denial MR2....under-age is at an all time low in S Antrim......have a look at the lack of strength at minor level.....teams from top clubs are poor in the extreme with Rossa and Brigids notable exceptions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
St Galls had an exceptional team. It wasn't that South West was struggling at that time.  Loads more can be done throughout the whole county, but especially in areas like Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Think you are in denial MR2....under-age is at an all time low in S Antrim......have a look at the lack of strength at minor level.....teams from top clubs are poor in the extreme with Rossa and Brigids notable exceptions.

Denial?? At what point did I say Belfast teams haven't performed on the last two years?? 2 years is now automatically Belfast is in the doldrums ?? Ffs lad wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
St Galls had an exceptional team. It wasn't that South West was struggling at that time.  Loads more can be done throughout the whole county, but especially in areas like Belfast.

Well they were struggling, they couldn't win a championship between minor under 21 and senior for five years! Not one poster was saying SW in trouble! Before that St. Paul's were winning and the johnnies. I'm lost on how after two seasons how Belfast is in decline??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:33:06 PM
Too busy winning the league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 11, 2017, 10:44:29 PM
Not often i say this, agree with MR2. Who has won the last 3 All County Feile's in Football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 11, 2017, 10:44:29 PM
Not often i say this, agree with MR2. Who has won the last 3 All County Feile's in Football?

A Belfast select
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 11:13:45 PM
I think MR2 is taking me up wrong. It doesn't matter if a Belfast club wins a championship next year, that doesn't mean all is great with Belfast GAA. I don't believe one club winning indicates how strong GAA is in that area. And that goes for South West as well. There is serious problems with participation and children wanting to play Gaelic Games. I would rather see a healthy GAA scene in South West and Belfast rather than one club dominating for a number of years and all the other teams struggling. Teams fulfilling fixtures and good competitive league structures is needed to attract children to come to training. I would love to see areas like Antrim Town getting more help. Two catholic primary schools with about 1000 pupils and struggling for numbers at underage level. What is the craic with this money that Antrim is meant to be getting from Croke Park?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 11, 2017, 10:44:29 PM
Not often i say this, agree with MR2. Who has won the last 3 All County Feile's in Football?

A Belfast select

And the SW don't have that ... hmmmm, laughable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 11:29:25 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 11:13:45 PM
I think MR2 is taking me up wrong. It doesn't matter if a Belfast club wins a championship next year, that doesn't mean all is great with Belfast GAA. I don't believe one club winning indicates how strong GAA is in that area. And that goes for South West as well. There is serious problems with participation and children wanting to play Gaelic Games. I would rather see a healthy GAA scene in South West and Belfast rather than one club dominating for a number of years and all the other teams struggling. Teams fulfilling fixtures and good competitive league structures is needed to attract children to come to training. I would love to see areas like Antrim Town getting more help. Two catholic primary schools with about 1000 pupils and struggling for numbers at underage level. What is the craic with this money that Antrim is meant to be getting from Croke Park?

I get it I'm just dealing with the WUMs first... so is there a city plan to increase participation of Gaelic games?

I'm not sure of the numbers but looking back during my time we had 20 players who played both codes right through to senior, we played for the school which just about had enough to make a team and most clubs were the same..

we've (most Belfast clubs) got under 8's under 10's tournaments all going on, never had that in my day, we'd  games called off in my day also,  teams didn't field..

My point is this Antrim are producing more players now than 20 years ago just not producing the calibre of players the other counties are or getting them to commit to it, just because Belfast is a big city means nothing..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 12, 2017, 08:58:18 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 11, 2017, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
I am involved with running the Paul McGirr Ulster U16 tournament, does anyone know who won the Antrim U16 football championship this year or if it is over yet?

Not over yet as far as I know. South West final this week and not sure if the South Antrim one is played yet.

SA semi final on this Thursday, Final on 1st Oct

http://www.southantrimgaa.com/fixtures/?yr=2017&compid=157

Not sure when All County Final is, was 2nd of Oct last year, could be 8th Oct perhaps?

Aldergrove won SW Antrim as far as I know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 12, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 11:29:25 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 11, 2017, 11:13:45 PM
I think MR2 is taking me up wrong. It doesn't matter if a Belfast club wins a championship next year, that doesn't mean all is great with Belfast GAA. I don't believe one club winning indicates how strong GAA is in that area. And that goes for South West as well. There is serious problems with participation and children wanting to play Gaelic Games. I would rather see a healthy GAA scene in South West and Belfast rather than one club dominating for a number of years and all the other teams struggling. Teams fulfilling fixtures and good competitive league structures is needed to attract children to come to training. I would love to see areas like Antrim Town getting more help. Two catholic primary schools with about 1000 pupils and struggling for numbers at underage level. What is the craic with this money that Antrim is meant to be getting from Croke Park?

I get it I'm just dealing with the WUMs first... so is there a city plan to increase participation of Gaelic games?

I'm not sure of the numbers but looking back during my time we had 20 players who played both codes right through to senior, we played for the school which just about had enough to make a team and most clubs were the same..

we've (most Belfast clubs) got under 8's under 10's tournaments all going on, never had that in my day, we'd  games called off in my day also,  teams didn't field..

My point is this Antrim are producing more players now than 20 years ago just not producing the calibre of players the other counties are or getting them to commit to it, just because Belfast is a big city means nothing..

Yeah look above is the point I was making last week.  Forget the SA SW rivalry or what individual clubs are attaining silverware. 

As I said lets try and max out participation and in this regard Belfast could be a gold mine.  That is interesting about Antrim town, I was unaware of numbers, but again another serious source of potential. 

But all potential is only that until it is harnessed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 12, 2017, 09:33:05 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Think you are in denial MR2....under-age is at an all time low in S Antrim......have a look at the lack of strength at minor level.....teams from top clubs are poor in the extreme with Rossa and Brigids notable exceptions.

I'm involved with under age football across a couple of age groups in SA. The statement above is too sweeping, there are a number of clubs, alongside Rossa and Brigids who are strong at some age groups, but the overall point is correct. There are some 'top clubs' who ftf on a regular basis at U16 and are very weak at lower age groups. Only St Pauls and Brigids field 2 teams (thats 20 players.....) at U12, only St Brigids run two U16 teams.

Between league and championship this year my U16 (B) team will have played 10 or 11 games, thats not enough. Challenge games can bring the number closer to 20 but still...not enough teams, not enough games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 09:36:45 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 12, 2017, 09:33:05 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Think you are in denial MR2....under-age is at an all time low in S Antrim......have a look at the lack of strength at minor level.....teams from top clubs are poor in the extreme with Rossa and Brigids notable exceptions.

I'm involved with under age football across a couple of age groups in SA. The statement above is too sweeping, there are a number of clubs, alongside Rossa and Brigids who are strong at some age groups, but the overall point is correct. There are some 'top clubs' who ftf on a regular basis at U16 and are very weak at lower age groups. Only St Pauls and Brigids field 2 teams (thats 20 players.....) at U12, only St Brigids run two U16 teams.

Between league and championship this year my U16 (B) team will have played 10 or 11 games, thats not enough. Challenge games can bring the number closer to 20 but still...not enough teams, not enough games.

I've mentioned it but can we look at the time of year? Would that give us more games??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 12, 2017, 09:41:30 AM
I think time of year would help, more Spring and Autumn games over summer games during the exam period. But even scheduling won't help with the lack of teams, not in the short term anyway. What about taking U16 All County?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 12, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
u16 hurling leagues are all county, and the divisional boards run their own championships/ cups. its probably the way to go with the football as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 12, 2017, 09:41:30 AM
I think time of year would help, more Spring and Autumn games over summer games during the exam period. But even scheduling won't help with the lack of teams, not in the short term anyway. What about taking U16 All County?

We are not alone on this, other counties have same issues, not that it solves the problem but have they approached it differently?

At Juvenile level, which teams are not fielding? While joining teams for a season isn't best why not have a team (not another club)  that facilitates that solely to ensure a kids are playing, a Belfast select for clubs that can't field 20 players at a age group

I know our minors didn't field at hurling once or twice but I know the reason behind that one... my view on the early spring league is simple, all the city teams play each other and the SW play each other and come the summer brighter days they can play the remaining games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 12, 2017, 10:01:25 AM
All county for U-14+ is the only option and time to scrap the Divisional Boards - we don't need 4 different organising/scheduling functions within the county. A classic example of this arise last week one divisional board had scheduled a referee for an U-14 championship match, while the county CCC had scheduled the same referee at the same venue to ref a senior match.  Far to much duplication on the administration side and not enough focus on getting more teams and more games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 12, 2017, 10:23:40 AM


At Juvenile level, which teams are not fielding? (//)

After one round of games involving all U16 teams, the league was split into two divisions. These are the fixtures / results from Div 2. Two games played in total, involving 3 teams.

Fixtures & Results 2017 - F u16 football 2

F u16 football 2   3 Aug 2017   Rossa   c/g   v   w/o   Gael an tSleibhe Dhuibh         
F u16 football 2   3 Aug 2017   St Johns   c/g   v   w/o   Pearses         
F u16 football 2   10 Aug 2017   St Johns   c/g   v   w/o   St Brigids B         
F u16 football 2   10 Aug 2017   Pearses   ftf   v   w/o   Gael an tSleibhe Dhuibh         
F u16 football 2   17 Aug 2017   St Brigids B   w/o   v   ftf   Pearses         
F u16 football 2   24 Aug 2017   St Brigids B   0-7   v   5-10   Gael an tSleibhe Dhuibh         
F u16 football 2   24 Aug 2017   Rossa   w/o.   v   ftf   Pearses         
F u16 football 2   31 Aug 2017   Gael an tSleibhe Dhuibh   w/o   v   c/g   St Johns         
F u16 football 2   31 Aug 2017   St Brigids B   3-12   v   5-10   Rossa         
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Not good at all, or good enough, we didn't play all county until they brought it in at minor but i'm sure we played more games than that, and that was in the 80's!! Sarsfields st Johns (and their sister teams  ;) ), Rossa, Davitts, Gorts, st Paul's, ourselves, Lamhs, Ardoyne, and sometimes St Teresa's and  Eire og would have had regular teams right through...

But I must admit the work done by parents, mentors and clubmen was great in those dark days of the troubles, minibus taking us everywhere and good support from all members at games, maybe I'm wearing rose tinted glasses but I really believe there was more games, I wonder is there a record of these games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Not good at all, or good enough, we didn't play all county until they brought it in at minor but i'm sure we played more games than that, and that was in the 80's!! Sarsfields st Johns (and their sister teams  ;) ), Rossa, Davitts, Gorts, st Paul's, ourselves, Lamhs, Ardoyne, and sometimes St Teresa's and  Eire og would have had regular teams right through...

But I must admit the work done by parents, mentors and clubmen was great in those dark days of the troubles, minibus taking us everywhere and good support from all members at games, maybe I'm wearing rose tinted glasses but I really believe there was more games, I wonder is there a record of these games

Do you think that maybe the South Antrim Board have taken their eye off the ball so to speak. During the troubles it was a good way to keep our youth out of trouble and off the streets and that is why the effort went in? I'm to young to remember the troubles  ;) so I could be talking rubbish. Maybe now in a peaceful environment, they think they don't have to and that the players will come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 12, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Not good at all, or good enough, we didn't play all county until they brought it in at minor but i'm sure we played more games than that, and that was in the 80's!! Sarsfields st Johns (and their sister teams  ;) ), Rossa, Davitts, Gorts, st Paul's, ourselves, Lamhs, Ardoyne, and sometimes St Teresa's and  Eire og would have had regular teams right through...

But I must admit the work done by parents, mentors and clubmen was great in those dark days of the troubles, minibus taking us everywhere and good support from all members at games, maybe I'm wearing rose tinted glasses but I really believe there was more games, I wonder is there a record of these games

Do you think that maybe the South Antrim Board have taken their eye off the ball so to speak. During the troubles it was a good way to keep our youth out of trouble and off the streets and that is why the effort went in? I'm to young to remember the troubles  ;) so I could be talking rubbish. Maybe now in a peaceful environment, they think they don't have to and that the players will come.

Nope, I can only give you my view on what I see coming through my club, cant really talk about other clubs to be fair, I was involved with juveniles on a Sat morning for many a year and it was a busy day, still is.. what happens once they meet the upper grades U12, U14 U16 and minor I don't know.. But again I still think there are more kids playing GAA in Belfast but we only needed 20 to play both codes, there were lads tat once they finished minor they never lifted a hurl or kicked a ball and stayed with one code!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2017, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 12, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Not good at all, or good enough, we didn't play all county until they brought it in at minor but i'm sure we played more games than that, and that was in the 80's!! Sarsfields st Johns (and their sister teams  ;) ), Rossa, Davitts, Gorts, st Paul's, ourselves, Lamhs, Ardoyne, and sometimes St Teresa's and  Eire og would have had regular teams right through...

But I must admit the work done by parents, mentors and clubmen was great in those dark days of the troubles, minibus taking us everywhere and good support from all members at games, maybe I'm wearing rose tinted glasses but I really believe there was more games, I wonder is there a record of these games

Do you think that maybe the South Antrim Board have taken their eye off the ball so to speak. During the troubles it was a good way to keep our youth out of trouble and off the streets and that is why the effort went in? I'm to young to remember the troubles  ;) so I could be talking rubbish. Maybe now in a peaceful environment, they think they don't have to and that the players will come.

Nope, I can only give you my view on what I see coming through my club, cant really talk about other clubs to be fair, I was involved with juveniles on a Sat morning for many a year and it was a busy day, still is.. what happens once they meet the upper grades U12, U14 U16 and minor I don't know.. But again I still think there are more kids playing GAA in Belfast but we only needed 20 to play both codes, there were lads tat once they finished minor they never lifted a hurl or kicked a ball and stayed with one code!

St Endas have fairly flourished since they became NA & SW clubs and played in those leagues that have been organised. Those figures posted by Brendan are damning to say the least and its not good enough at Div2 level or in fact any level. Clubs have to start taking responsibility as do the South Antrim board. I don't think an All County un16 league will help nor is it the answer.

There seems to be generation lost in Belfast. As I said a few posts back, we need to start targeting the schools and parents. Going by social media there is good work being done at Un8 to un12 but after that, like most clubs, other distractions will come into play and that is when the bother starts.

I always disagreed with you when you said that Belfast had to many clubs but maybe for once I'll agree with you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 12, 2017, 05:12:44 PM
Maybe too many clubs / not enough players are two sides of the same coin. When clubs amalgamate at various age grades to field teams thats a sign that the player base is self evidently spread too thinly.

To be fair to all concerned, taking a team, sitting on a club committee, indeed organising leagues / competitions as SA do, none of it is easy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2017, 05:36:53 PM
Before St Endas were in SW at juvenile they were a div one senior football team... and I remember playing them at div 2 hurling before they played in the NA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 12, 2017, 07:25:06 PM
I would seriously doubt if there would be any enthusiasm for all county under-16 league competition......and would suggest that South West clubs would jump at the chance if they were asked to revert to the old system as employed a few years back when minor leagues were on a divisional board basis.

Jeez back in those days when the South West had their own minor league 'failure to field' was never a factor, and the competition proceeded without any such hindrances in a well structured manner of expedience which remains evident in the 12, 14, and 16 leagues which is in stark contrast to what we see now on the all county under-18 affair........was talking to a Moneyglass mentor lately and he tells me prior to last week's league decider with Dunloy they had no fixture in the competition in eight weeks.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 12, 2017, 07:53:41 PM
What about a club survey of divisional board performance with the results reviewed by the County Board?
The survey would be along the lines of
- what has the Div board done poorly?
- where could it improve?
- what could it do more of
- etc
This is type of feedback is needed in all walks of life and could only be beneficial in understanding the issues better.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 13, 2017, 08:35:58 PM
The question remains - why do we need 3 divisional boards and and all county (i.e. 4 separate) organisations managing and running fixtures? We don't one central structure to manage and organise is more than sufficient.  Having a central management structure does not prohibit the playing of fixtures on a regional (aka divisional basis) at certain times of the year (dark nights when travelling can cause issues with getting fixtures played).

I'm not saying this will cure the issues with FTF and the level of apathy within Belfast, but fixing the problems require solving many interlocking issues. 

I agree with many previous posters it all starts (and in the case of Belfast, ends) in the schools. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 15, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 13, 2017, 08:35:58 PM
The question remains - why do we need 3 divisional boards and and all county (i.e. 4 separate) organisations managing and running fixtures? We don't one central structure to manage and organise is more than sufficient.  Having a central management structure does not prohibit the playing of fixtures on a regional (aka divisional basis) at certain times of the year (dark nights when travelling can cause issues with getting fixtures played).

I'm not saying this will cure the issues with FTF and the level of apathy within Belfast, but fixing the problems require solving many interlocking issues. 

I agree with many previous posters it all starts (and in the case of Belfast, ends) in the schools.

I think that we do need 3 divisional boards, because we have 3 unique areas that have different unique concerns to manage. In effect we have: 1 Rural Hurling Board, 1 Rural Football Board, 1 Urban dual sport Board
The issue is with standard approaches on how to govern, run initiatives and leagues so that each board is consistent on the service that they provide.

A little historical example of the problems we face. When I was with the county minors many moons ago, the minor management changed the days that we were to train as it didn't suit the city clubs. The new proposal didn't suit the SW clubs. How hard would it have be to have the two boards agree on which days of the week certain age groups play, but they never talked to each other. This may be an insignificant issue, but it does highlight how disjoined we were as a county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 19, 2017, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on September 15, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 13, 2017, 08:35:58 PM
The question remains - why do we need 3 divisional boards and and all county (i.e. 4 separate) organisations managing and running fixtures? We don't one central structure to manage and organise is more than sufficient.  Having a central management structure does not prohibit the playing of fixtures on a regional (aka divisional basis) at certain times of the year (dark nights when travelling can cause issues with getting fixtures played).

I'm not saying this will cure the issues with FTF and the level of apathy within Belfast, but fixing the problems require solving many interlocking issues. 

I agree with many previous posters it all starts (and in the case of Belfast, ends) in the schools.

I think that we do need 3 divisional boards, because we have 3 unique areas that have different unique concerns to manage. In effect we have: 1 Rural Hurling Board, 1 Rural Football Board, 1 Urban dual sport Board
The issue is with standard approaches on how to govern, run initiatives and leagues so that each board is consistent on the service that they provide.

A little historical example of the problems we face. When I was with the county minors many moons ago, the minor management changed the days that we were to train as it didn't suit the city clubs. The new proposal didn't suit the SW clubs. How hard would it have be to have the two boards agree on which days of the week certain age groups play, but they never talked to each other. This may be an insignificant issue, but it does highlight how disjoined we were as a county.

I heard this topic before !


The question is not the 'need' for divisional boards – but whether they work better than a single central organisation.
The answer is well proven; small teams working on small tasks, managed by competent committees with local management, who in turn share experiences and work objectives at central level for consistency, with one boss making sure things are operating properly, usually along with a secretary. The job of the boss is to make sure the remit of the stakeholders is carried out.
The fact that most involved in the teams are volunteers immediately dictate the sensible number of hierarchy levels in the organisation.

I would understand that Antrim has a divisional board that manages hurling along with a little football, one that manages football with a little hurling, and one that manages both, so all 3 are doing the same tasks. If they are not operating effectively and efficiently, then the management should be sorting the interlocking out.

It would be useful to have 'Personal Rating' survey carried out on the aforementioned volunteers, I would say most of the quiet not so well known ones would score sky high, and a lot of the noisy ones could learn a lot on how to improve their performance from the statistics.

It always seems to be the belfast gaels that want 'someone' to fix the problems in Antrim...
Still waiting for 'someone' to come up from croke.

PS I agree schools are the place to start, but who assumes the responsibility; the divisional boards, the county board, the boss, ulster, or will we wait for the 'someone' from Croke ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2017, 07:59:50 PM
For basic logistical reasons divisional boards work better. Time travelling to matches is less when games localised - this makes more time for kids to get home from school and dare i say it but do homework as well as the obvious cheaper factor. Less time commited will also mean more likely to commit. I played all through underage in south west leagues and they worked brilliantly. You knew every week you had a game on a set night and that was that. In 5 or 6 years i remember about 2 games called off.(there wasn't u12 leagues in my day - or there were and we weren't entered).

being from the country i really only know about south west and north antrim boards but imo, and in most people's, they work brilliantly. The city is a tougher beast to manage mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 20, 2017, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 19, 2017, 07:59:50 PM
For basic logistical reasons divisional boards work better. Time travelling to matches is less when games localised

Unless you're from lovely Aghagallon and have to travel 1+ hour for a 6.45pm throw-in having only arrived in from work at 6pm!    :)

Sure it's all part of the fun!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
anyone know for definite is club minor u17 or u18 next year ? a lot of confusion out there.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
anyone know for definite is club minor u17 or u18 next year ? a lot of confusion out there.......

u18
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 20, 2017, 08:20:03 PM
That is to be decided at next county meeting ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2017, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 20, 2017, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 19, 2017, 07:59:50 PM
For basic logistical reasons divisional boards work better. Time travelling to matches is less when games localised

Unless you're from lovely Aghagallon and have to travel 1+ hour for a 6.45pm throw-in having only arrived in from work at 6pm!    :)

Sure it's all part of the fun!


Lol. Yeah you boys are the exception!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on September 21, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
We're is Delargy is he still trying to raise the money to pay mc keever to be the next manager come out come out we're ever you are the punters need to know what's going on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2017, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: Clover on September 21, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
We're is Delargy is he still trying to raise the money to pay mc keever to be the next manager come out come out we're ever you are the punters need to know what's going on

He could be a while if he is trying to raise that sort of cash  ;D ;D ;D

Totally laughable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2017, 07:57:15 PM
Not sure what anyone else is hearing but all I have been told is that all three candidates interviewed exceptionally well and it is a close contest. The men charged with picking a successor are keeping their cards very close to their chest and rightly so.

Re funding, an inter county team can't be run on a shoestring. We have done that for years and look where its got us. We simply must broaden our outlook a financially or else we can expect more of the same. Surely most reasonable people here will agree with that assessment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 21, 2017, 08:07:40 PM
Totally agree BS

Pay peanuts you get monkeys

If we dont think bigger we'll stay the same. You have to spend money to make money

Look at Sunday in Croker...how do we get there...we havent since 1912 so how do we, if ever?
We need to start thinking bigger for a start...an insider appointment, just because he is free is no good to us. Candidates (good men no doubt) who managed teams to victories who in reality could manage themselves are no good to us

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
Thats definitely the consensus I'm picking up Gold. It's time to think outside the box and if that means going for it, then let's get stuck into it. Let's make it work. We gave the players i dont care what anyone says. We just need the set up. Then every player will give their right arm to play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 21, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
What players are we talking about that we will have giving their right arm to play for Antrim. Please name them we had a great bunch last year who were very unlucky not to stay in div 3. Just because guys are looking extreme amounts of money doesnt mean they will do a better job. Were in division 4 lets be realistic were at best a bottom half of 3 team surely we need to get all these so called great men to help with development squads and build a great antrim team again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
I fully respect your opinion Bit of banter. But I think it's important to look at a few facts. Our minors beat Donegal, two years in a row we beat Fermanagh before that. So I will work on an assumption that there are at least half a dozen players from those year groups that can make up into really good seniors in due course.

Our under 21s took a double winning Monaghan team full on for 55 minutes and I know Monaghsn had a lot more in done in terms of preparation than our boys. We were toe to toe with them all over the pitch. There are at least four or five of those guys good enough to step up.

We don't need 40 or 50 players. Donegal won two all Ireland using 17 players. I'm sure we have this in our midst.  What I am not sure, in fact I am certain, is that we haven't really ever done this thing right. I will proudly promote the theory that if it's done right, really well, with proper support throughout, that we can turn round the fortunes of Antrim Football.

I don't think Ulster is great atm, be confident we could have a team competitive in 3 years in the right hands and a proper backroom set up. But if we all think bottom div 3 is our lot for eternity then that's a very sad reflection on us, and on our county. For God's sake let's do this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 21, 2017, 10:10:21 PM
Last year we probably had the youngest antrim team we have had in along time. How many of these minors and u21s are shining brightly in our own division 1 or 2 leagues, i totally agree that the manager who ever it is needs a long term of 5 years at least but the cost of that if yearly figures are correct will be beyond us no matter how many breakfast mornings we have. With all respect we will probably go with the cheapest option will u still give your support then bannside as that wont be your man.
Still no actuall names of these players we r going to have giving their arms for antrim. Lets help out the new management by naming the best talent in the county that they should call on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2017, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 21, 2017, 10:10:21 PM
Last year we probably had the youngest antrim team we have had in along time. How many of these minors and u21s are shining brightly in our own division 1 or 2 leagues, i totally agree that the manager who ever it is needs a long term of 5 years at least but the cost of that if yearly figures are correct will be beyond us no matter how many breakfast mornings we have. With all respect we will probably go with the cheapest option will u still give your support then bannside as that wont be your man.
Still no actuall names of these players we r going to have giving their arms for antrim. Lets help out the new management by naming the best talent in the county that they should call on.

I'd say most people would want 25 committed players who buy in to what the new management team wants. You can work wonders with that sort of attitude.. players need to commit and so do clubs, I think we (clubs) demand more from these players and  the knock on effect is more effort for club than county, think if we were a top county you'd see a different approach from players, as it is they feel winking with their club is best chance of silverware
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
I fully respect your opinion Bit of banter. But I think it's important to look at a few facts. Our minors beat Donegal, two years in a row we beat Fermanagh before that. So I will work on an assumption that there are at least half a dozen players from those year groups that can make up into really good seniors in due course.

Our under 21s took a double winning Monaghan team full on for 55 minutes and I know Monaghsn had a lot more in done in terms of preparation than our boys. We were toe to toe with them all over the pitch. There are at least four or five of those guys good enough to step up.

We don't need 40 or 50 players. Donegal won two all Ireland using 17 players. I'm sure we have this in our midst.  What I am not sure, in fact I am certain, is that we haven't really ever done this thing right. I will proudly promote the theory that if it's done right, really well, with proper support throughout, that we can turn round the fortunes of Antrim Football.

I don't think Ulster is great atm, be confident we could have a team competitive in 3 years in the right hands and a proper backroom set up. But if we all think bottom div 3 is our lot for eternity then that's a very sad reflection on us, and on our county. For God's sake let's do this.
Whilst I really admire ur optimism BS I cannot marry such with logic.
Just where are those players who can lead us to Croke or possibly even Clones?
Do u think we have the training facilities in place to compare with successful counties....?
Have we personnel in search of management who have a track record within their own club leading to success...county titles...??

I am glad to see you have jettisoned your austerity policy which you favoured last year in the treatment of our minors BS......no packed lunches from now on in??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
We've a Antrim man who managed at the highest level and won an All Ireland club CB... played for Antrim for many years and won Ulster club himself during his playing days... is that the type of man you're looking for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
We've a Antrim man who managed at the highest level and won an All Ireland club CB... played for Antrim for many years and won Ulster club himself during his playing days... is that the type of man you're looking for?
Indeed....but would  e bring along a few players...and quickly establish a training facility......Owenbeag on the Falls... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
We've a Antrim man who managed at the highest level and won an All Ireland club CB... played for Antrim for many years and won Ulster club himself during his playing days... is that the type of man you're looking for?
Indeed....but would  e bring along a few players...and quickly establish a training facility......Owenbeag on the Falls... :)

Well the Falls park was good enough to win Ulsters and All Irelands, so not a bad idea CB, what's your secret for all your success? Wouldn't be outside managers or players, oh wait, the gift that keeps on giving lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 22, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
We've a Antrim man who managed at the highest level and won an All Ireland club CB... played for Antrim for many years and won Ulster club himself during his playing days... is that the type of man you're looking for?
Indeed....but would  e bring along a few players...and quickly establish a training facility......Owenbeag on the Falls... :)

Regarding facilities etc, Antrim are in probably in a really strong position, if we think creatively, Antrim could utilize any of the  following;
UUJ training facilities, UUJ performance testing facilities, UUJ Physio department (which we could get cheap if we approached the department and allowed supervised student involvement in treatments)
QUB training facilities, QUB physical training center
Antrim training center
School Facilities, e.g St Mary's CBS (Derry won an All Ireland and trained a lot in St Pats)

All these facilities are of a high standard

Then lets consider club grounds;
Cargin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Tir Na Nog, Dunloy, etc, all have great facilities
In Belfast Falls park (??), Woodlands, Lamb Dearg, (other clubs ??),

So we have the facilities now to set up really good programs, what we need is long term plans, for the seniors and for the underage teams

Well the Falls park was good enough to win Ulsters and All Irelands, so not a bad idea CB, what's your secret for all your success? Wouldn't be outside managers or players, oh wait, the gift that keeps on giving lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:41:29 AM
The only team to achieve any national success from Antrim recently was St Galls and to do so they had to pillage from every corner of Ulster and Belfast.  I know of few stand out players from others counties playing in Antrim that would be an addition to the current squad if even they were persuaded to do so therefore.....

we need a short term stability solution with a long term plan to back it all up.  I see the pride derry and tyrone men have in playing for their county and I feel its just not the same for antrim.  A lot of clubmen feel disconnected with the county, so a initiative to garner a connection needs to be implemented.  Schools need to be targeted properly, not just lip service paid.  Regarding management, All we ask is for a man and team with a proper CV to bring us forward, whether he be outside or not.  The days of 'I took Sarsfields minors for a year' are gone if we are serious about progressing antrim football.  Make no mistake, I see people on hear talking about unlunkcy to get relegated and such like.  Last year was a joke. No team (players & management), and Ill repeat NO Team is unlucky to get relegated. You've either been rubbish or out of your depth in the first place.

People speak of a centre of excellence.  Is dunsilly going to be the biggest white elephant and worst thought of plan ever?  bite the bullet and choose Cargin or Ballymena and sink proper funds into it to create a stand with terracing and a base to operate both hurling and football from.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on September 22, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
We've a Antrim man who managed at the highest level and won an All Ireland club CB... played for Antrim for many years and won Ulster club himself during his playing days... is that the type of man you're looking for?
Indeed....but would  e bring along a few players...and quickly establish a training facility......Owenbeag on the Falls... :)

Regarding facilities etc, Antrim are in probably in a really strong position, if we think creatively, Antrim could utilize any of the  following;
UUJ training facilities, UUJ performance testing facilities, UUJ Physio department (which we could get cheap if we approached the department and allowed supervised student involvement in treatments)
QUB training facilities, QUB physical training center
Antrim training center
School Facilities, e.g St Mary's CBS (Derry won an All Ireland and trained a lot in St Pats)

All these facilities are of a high standard

Then lets consider club grounds;
Cargin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Tir Na Nog, Dunloy, etc, all have great facilities
In Belfast Falls park (??), Woodlands, Lamb Dearg, (other clubs ??),

So we have the facilities now to set up really good programs, what we need is long term plans, for the seniors and for the underage teams



You're correct in that Antrim have 'most' of the facilities, just not concentrated.  If we have no money for capital projects then we'll have to look at putting the money into personnel which takes considerably less. What noises are coming out of SV currently?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:41:29 AM
The only team to achieve any national success from Antrim recently was St Galls and to do so they had to pillage from every corner of Ulster and Belfast.  I know of few stand out players from others counties playing in Antrim that would be an addition to the current squad if even they were persuaded to do so therefore.....

we need a short term stability solution with a long term plan to back it all up.  I see the pride derry and tyrone men have in playing for their county and I feel its just not the same for antrim.  A lot of clubmen feel disconnected with the county, so a initiative to garner a connection needs to be implemented.  Schools need to be targeted properly, not just lip service paid.  Regarding management, All we ask is for a man and team with a proper CV to bring us forward, whether he be outside or not.  The days of 'I took Sarsfields minors for a year' are gone if we are serious about progressing antrim football.  Make no mistake, I see people on hear talking about unlunkcy to get relegated and such like.  Last year was a joke. No team (players & management), and Ill repeat NO Team is unlucky to get relegated. You've either been rubbish or out of your depth in the first place.

People speak of a centre of excellence.  Is dunsilly going to be the biggest white elephant and worst thought of plan ever?  bite the bullet and choose Cargin or Ballymena and sink proper funds into it to create a stand with terracing and a base to operate both hurling and football from.

You are leaving out other clubs in your rant lad... but carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 22, 2017, 11:26:19 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on September 22, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
We've a Antrim man who managed at the highest level and won an All Ireland club CB... played for Antrim for many years and won Ulster club himself during his playing days... is that the type of man you're looking for?
Indeed....but would  e bring along a few players...and quickly establish a training facility......Owenbeag on the Falls... :)

Regarding facilities etc, Antrim are in probably in a really strong position, if we think creatively, Antrim could utilize any of the  following;
UUJ training facilities, UUJ performance testing facilities, UUJ Physio department (which we could get cheap if we approached the department and allowed supervised student involvement in treatments)
QUB training facilities, QUB physical training center
Antrim training center
School Facilities, e.g St Mary's CBS (Derry won an All Ireland and trained a lot in St Pats)

All these facilities are of a high standard

Then lets consider club grounds;
Cargin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Tir Na Nog, Dunloy, etc, all have great facilities
In Belfast Falls park (??), Woodlands, Lamb Dearg, (other clubs ??),

So we have the facilities now to set up really good programs, what we need is long term plans, for the seniors and for the underage teams



You're correct in that Antrim have 'most' of the facilities, just not concentrated.  If we have no money for capital projects then we'll have to look at putting the money into personnel which takes considerably less. What noises are coming out of SV currently?

Additional point, my son plays with an academy in England. It's a Cat 1 academy, so he plays against Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs etc. One thing that I find interesting in the approaches to facilities that the different in Cat 1 academies have.

At the youth to U14 level you have the top clubs with state of the art facilities; Chelsea, Arsenal etc,
Then you have clubs with state of the art playing facilities but have temp cabins for changing rooms, training, classrooms etc, (e.g. Reading, Bournemouth,)
Finally you have clubs who co-share facilities that are either privately run or college owned (Crystal Palace, Fulham, Cardiff, QPR,) Different models of operation, but the second two basically maximize, as much as possible, money into coaching etc to improve playing standards and only invest in facilities if they have secured additional money.

Antrim now need to invest in the coaching structures, with the aim of being the Dublin of the North
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
No one will disagree with that Kickham. If you trust the county officials who are trying to secure a deal with Croke Park for a package that could deliver new full time coaches for Belfast then I think you won't be disappointed, as this process is developing nicely.

I was at the Saffron Business Forum breakfast this morning and it was highly impressive. Only going less than a year and £25k already donated exclusively towards the area of juvenile development and that should be recognised.

Rome wasn't built in a day but I'd say the vast majority of the several hundred businessmen present this morning can see some very obvious changes in the quality of the work going on and a year or two of this momentum will make a massive difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 22, 2017, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:41:29 AM
The only team to achieve any national success from Antrim recently was St Galls and to do so they had to pillage from every corner of Ulster and Belfast.  I know of few stand out players from others counties playing in Antrim that would be an addition to the current squad if even they were persuaded to do so therefore.....

we need a short term stability solution with a long term plan to back it all up.  I see the pride derry and tyrone men have in playing for their county and I feel its just not the same for antrim.  A lot of clubmen feel disconnected with the county, so a initiative to garner a connection needs to be implemented.  Schools need to be targeted properly, not just lip service paid.  Regarding management, All we ask is for a man and team with a proper CV to bring us forward, whether he be outside or not.  The days of 'I took Sarsfields minors for a year' are gone if we are serious about progressing antrim football.  Make no mistake, I see people on hear talking about unlunkcy to get relegated and such like.  Last year was a joke. No team (players & management), and Ill repeat NO Team is unlucky to get relegated. You've either been rubbish or out of your depth in the first place.

People speak of a centre of excellence.  Is dunsilly going to be the biggest white elephant and worst thought of plan ever?  bite the bullet and choose Cargin or Ballymena and sink proper funds into it to create a stand with terracing and a base to operate both hurling and football from.

You are leaving out other clubs in your rant lad... but carry on

Hardly a rant - 2 lines - sensitive soul?    Sorry, St Pauls were guilty of a bit of it too but 2000 was a marketing disaster.  If you don't believe St Galls were the biggest beneficiaries or exponents of a successful transfer system in Belfast and Co Antrim Senior football then you are clearly deluded.   All clubs have transferees yes, point taken, but none so much as St Galls. Still doesn't get away from the fact that Antrim clubs or county cant seem to achieve success solely with their own men. I'm sure you have your own reasons and explanations for that.......But that digresses from my main post point that you appear to have missed so feel free to re-read at your leisure

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 22, 2017, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
No one will disagree with that Kickham. If you trust the county officials who are trying to secure a deal with Croke Park for a package that could deliver new full time coaches for Belfast then I think you won't be disappointed, as this process is developing nicely.

I was at the Saffron Business Forum breakfast this morning and it was highly impressive. Only going less than a year and £25k already donated exclusively towards the area of juvenile development and that should be recognised.

Rome wasn't built in a day but I'd say the vast majority of the several hundred businessmen present this morning can see some very obvious changes in the quality of the work going on and a year or two of this momentum will make a massive difference.

I would hope the new full time coaches would be for the whole of Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:41:29 AM
The only team to achieve any national success from Antrim recently was St Galls and to do so they had to pillage from every corner of Ulster and Belfast.  I know of few stand out players from others counties playing in Antrim that would be an addition to the current squad if even they were persuaded to do so therefore.....

we need a short term stability solution with a long term plan to back it all up.  I see the pride derry and tyrone men have in playing for their county and I feel its just not the same for antrim.  A lot of clubmen feel disconnected with the county, so a initiative to garner a connection needs to be implemented.  Schools need to be targeted properly, not just lip service paid.  Regarding management, All we ask is for a man and team with a proper CV to bring us forward, whether he be outside or not.  The days of 'I took Sarsfields minors for a year' are gone if we are serious about progressing antrim football.  Make no mistake, I see people on hear talking about unlunkcy to get relegated and such like.  Last year was a joke. No team (players & management), and Ill repeat NO Team is unlucky to get relegated. You've either been rubbish or out of your depth in the first place.

People speak of a centre of excellence.  Is dunsilly going to be the biggest white elephant and worst thought of plan ever?  bite the bullet and choose Cargin or Ballymena and sink proper funds into it to create a stand with terracing and a base to operate both hurling and football from.

You are leaving out other clubs in your rant lad... but carry on

Hardly a rant - 2 lines - sensitive soul?    Sorry, St Pauls were guilty of a bit of it too but 2000 was a marketing disaster.  If you don't believe St Galls were the biggest beneficiaries or exponents of a successful transfer system in Belfast and Co Antrim Senior football then you are clearly deluded.   All clubs have transferees yes, point taken, but none so much as St Galls. Still doesn't get away from the fact that Antrim clubs or county cant seem to achieve success solely with their own men. I'm sure you have your own reasons and explanations for that.......But that digresses from my main post point that you appear to have missed so feel free to re-read at your leisure

Again you leave out the SW clubs that have used this transfer system you refer to, we won god knows how many juvenile titles with players that were in the club from under 12, could we have went on and won the big one? Yep i fully believe we would have, one or two players dont make a team/panel

as for discussing the main topic, I've done it many times, if you dont feel like reading through my posts thats your problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 22, 2017, 02:53:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2017, 09:41:29 AM
The only team to achieve any national success from Antrim recently was St Galls and to do so they had to pillage from every corner of Ulster and Belfast.  I know of few stand out players from others counties playing in Antrim that would be an addition to the current squad if even they were persuaded to do so therefore.....

we need a short term stability solution with a long term plan to back it all up.  I see the pride derry and tyrone men have in playing for their county and I feel its just not the same for antrim.  A lot of clubmen feel disconnected with the county, so a initiative to garner a connection needs to be implemented.  Schools need to be targeted properly, not just lip service paid.  Regarding management, All we ask is for a man and team with a proper CV to bring us forward, whether he be outside or not.  The days of 'I took Sarsfields minors for a year' are gone if we are serious about progressing antrim football.  Make no mistake, I see people on hear talking about unlunkcy to get relegated and such like.  Last year was a joke. No team (players & management), and Ill repeat NO Team is unlucky to get relegated. You've either been rubbish or out of your depth in the first place.

People speak of a centre of excellence.  Is dunsilly going to be the biggest white elephant and worst thought of plan ever?  bite the bullet and choose Cargin or Ballymena and sink proper funds into it to create a stand with terracing and a base to operate both hurling and football from.

You are leaving out other clubs in your rant lad... but carry on

Hardly a rant - 2 lines - sensitive soul?    Sorry, St Pauls were guilty of a bit of it too but 2000 was a marketing disaster.  If you don't believe St Galls were the biggest beneficiaries or exponents of a successful transfer system in Belfast and Co Antrim Senior football then you are clearly deluded.   All clubs have transferees yes, point taken, but none so much as St Galls. Still doesn't get away from the fact that Antrim clubs or county cant seem to achieve success solely with their own men. I'm sure you have your own reasons and explanations for that.......But that digresses from my main post point that you appear to have missed so feel free to re-read at your leisure

Again you leave out the SW clubs that have used this transfer system you refer to, we won god knows how many juvenile titles with players that were in the club from under 12, could we have went on and won the big one? Yep i fully believe we would have, one or two players dont make a team/panel

as for discussing the main topic, I've done it many times, if you dont feel like reading through my posts thats your problem

We were talking about St Galls not SW.  SW Antrim doesn't have the same problem as you well know. You wouldn't have got out of Antrim never mind all Irelands with a home grown crop (nice deflection on the u12s but that antrim development officer was never good reading post codes  ;) )  Actually I have read your posts on the subject, some things I agree with, some I don't. You choose to ignore my reasons then fine, the short cut to success worked for st galls in the short term and now its catching up with them.  Unfortunately antrim needs something more substantial than a short cut. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 02:59:21 PM
Short term? We've been rattling around for many years, no team stays at the top long, no deflection with the underage talent either... Its just a cycle, ive mentioned that a lot also... may take us another 20 years to get back at Croke again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 22, 2017, 10:06:07 PM
Don't dublin use DCU as their training base?? As someone said, can Antrim not avail of the UUJ and Queens facilities?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 22, 2017, 11:37:48 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on September 22, 2017, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
No one will disagree with that Kickham. If you trust the county officials who are trying to secure a deal with Croke Park for a package that could deliver new full time coaches for Belfast then I think you won't be disappointed, as this process is developing nicely.

I was at the Saffron Business Forum breakfast this morning and it was highly impressive. Only going less than a year and £25k already donated exclusively towards the area of juvenile development and that should be recognised.

Rome wasn't built in a day but I'd say the vast majority of the several hundred businessmen present this morning can see some very obvious changes in the quality of the work going on and a year or two of this momentum will make a massive difference.


I would hope the new full time coaches would be for the whole of Antrim
Now can you answer the question BS......

Seems our new senior manager has been appointed and all will be revealed on Monday evening......but methinks a little leakage.... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2017, 12:10:51 AM
You can get treated for the leakage CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2017, 08:25:54 AM
The plan is for Belfast CB, not for Antrim. The GAA has identified that it is strong in rural areas, but is being hit hard by soccer and increasingly rugby in the cities and large towns.

With Dublin now flourishing Antrim officials moved swiftly to make a case for games development in Irelands second largest city, and that process is going well through the discussion stages.

There's not really a big soccer tradition, of rugby either in Toomebridge, Portglenone, or Loughgiel etc, so that's not their focus. I was going to say unfortunately, but will change that to gladly.

Let's say Belfast gets funding for 10 coaches for schools etc..Id say brilliant. But others will say "what about the South West." It really all depends on your outlook. Belfast has slipped way back and as a county we need it strong.

Oh and yes. The trickle down effect will see extra coaching in SW and NA. So while you mightnt see that written down maybe some good faith could do the trick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 23, 2017, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2017, 08:25:54 AM
The plan is for Belfast CB, not for Antrim. The GAA has identified that it is strong in rural areas, but is being hit hard by soccer and increasingly rugby in the cities and large towns.

With Dublin now flourishing Antrim officials moved swiftly to make a case for games development in Irelands second largest city, and that process is going well through the discussion stages.

There's not really a big soccer tradition, of rugby either in Toomebridge, Portglenone, or Loughgiel etc, so that's not their focus. I was going to say unfortunately, but will change that to gladly.

Let's say Belfast gets funding for 10 coaches for schools etc..Id say brilliant. But others will say "what about the South West." It really all depends on your outlook. Belfast has slipped way back and as a county we need it strong.

Oh and yes. The trickle down effect will see extra coaching in SW and NA. So while you mightnt see that written down maybe some good faith could do the trick.
Think the gaa need to get a reality check BS......only one club in the S West has managed to gain a senior football championship in the past 60 years......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
While all new money is good for Antrim GAA I hope, if you are right and Antrim get money for 10 new coaches for the schools, there is money to run a proper fixture schedules for juveniles. As a coach across a number of age ranges in Belfast our main problem is the season is so short i.e. April to September with no matches in July so 5 months only. This isn't enough matches to stop lads drifting off to other sports. We need money for full time competition administrators to book 4-G pitches, run winter leagues etc so lads will have enough of a season to dedicate themselves to GAA and fulfill their potential. Simply lads want to be play more than be coached and ignoring the lack of a 9/10 month fixture calendar and concentrating on coaching only is a mistake - like to hear others thoughts on this issue...............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
While all new money is good for Antrim GAA I hope, if you are right and Antrim get money for 10 new coaches for the schools, there is money to run a proper fixture schedules for juveniles. As a coach across a number of age ranges in Belfast our main problem is the season is so short i.e. April to September with no matches in July so 5 months only. This isn't enough matches to stop lads drifting off to other sports. We need money for full time competition administrators to book 4-G pitches, run winter leagues etc so lads will have enough of a season to dedicate themselves to GAA and fulfill their potential. Simply lads want to be play more than be coached and ignoring the lack of a 9/10 month fixture calendar and concentrating on coaching only is a mistake - like to hear others thoughts on this issue...............

Throw money at Belfast GAA and it'll fix it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2017, 10:38:46 PM
Listen Belfast needs it, we've the worst clubs in the land sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 24, 2017, 07:25:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2017, 10:38:46 PM
Listen Belfast needs it, we've the worst clubs in the land sure

I would throw a large chunk of resource at Belfast if it was available. Bullshit to say worst clubs in the land and I know ypu are being facetious but there is simply a large population not being fully exploited and rather than being good a lot of Belfast clubs have the potential to be outstanding if it could be more harnessed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 07:34:54 AM
Getting money and doing the right thing with it can prove very difficult...Antrim needs to follow a model that's worked but of course what works in, let's say Dublin, might not 100% apply to Belfast, different needs different outlook... course Belfast can and should have more potential so be interesting to see the blueprint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 10:37:56 AM
I was talking to a person a few days ago who should know what he's talking about (played for county for years, won 3 or 4 cship medals with club, managed too) and he is connected to a large Belfast Grammar/Secondary school. He has his finger on the pulse too of colleges football etc etc. So I take his opinion seriously.

He is adamant that for the dozens of good footballers that left his school over the last two decades to go on to play county football, he could name dozens of others too who were AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER, who slipped through the net for different reasons, but in quite a lot of cases, to play soccer.

That's the wastage rate Antrim is suffering from, and that's the hole we need to try to plug. Hopefully extra coaches (and games too Belfast GAA man) will help to promote the sport better and the New Casement stadium might help to sex up our games a bit too (especially in non traditional GAA families) when that great facility is ready.

These are challenges we need to face up to, but it's not unrealistic to believe that collectively it will make a positive difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 10:43:14 AM
Anyone here remember the O Hara report or better still got a copy of it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
Can your knowledgeable teacher mate remember when a Belfast college last won a Mc Crory cup  BS......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:30:21 AM
Yes, when he played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:32:23 AM
The strong influence from his school played a pivotal role in that years Antrim minor team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:34:26 AM
They won the Ulster minor championship too. This demonstrates the importance of a strong Belfast. Does this help shape your thinking a bit better CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
Can your knowledgeable teacher mate remember when a Belfast college last won a Mc Crory cup  BS......?

When was the last Donegal college to win MacRory cup CB? And Donegal have done pretty well at football at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 24, 2017, 05:31:17 PM
Who's running that u13 football tournament that was advertised last week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:34:26 AM
They won the Ulster minor championship too. This demonstrates the importance of a strong Belfast. Does this help shape your thinking a bit better CB?
My thinking is I have heard it all before BS......and I have seen  a few excellent county managers subjected to whispering campaigns to force them out.....John Morrison...Baker  for example....Ditzy joins the band.
Incidentally see u have abandoned ur previous support for Austerity in Saffron....no more packed lunches.
Think ur teacher friend has gotten his dates a trifle mixed...St Marys were last Mc Crory winners in 1986....afraid Antrim last win an Ulster minor football title was/82....remember it well....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 07:11:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:34:26 AM
They won the Ulster minor championship too. This demonstrates the importance of a strong Belfast. Does this help shape your thinking a bit better CB?
My thinking is I have heard it all before BS......and I have seen  a few excellent county managers subjected to whispering campaigns to force them out.....John Morrison...Baker  for example....Ditzy joins the band.
Incidentally see u have abandoned ur previous support for Austerity in Saffron....no more packed lunches.
Think ur teacher friend has gotten his dates a trifle mixed...St Marys were last Mc Crory winners in 1986....afraid Antrim last win an Ulster minor football title was/82....remember it well....

And Donegal's ability to never win college football but win some all Irelands means it doesn't mean a strong school success works out at senior county! How many titles have the SW schools managed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 07:11:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:34:26 AM
They won the Ulster minor championship too. This demonstrates the importance of a strong Belfast. Does this help shape your thinking a bit better CB?
My thinking is I have heard it all before BS......and I have seen  a few excellent county managers subjected to whispering campaigns to force them out.....John Morrison...Baker  for example....Ditzy joins the band.
Incidentally see u have abandoned ur previous support for Austerity in Saffron....no more packed lunches.
Think ur teacher friend has gotten his dates a trifle mixed...St Marys were last Mc Crory winners in 1986....afraid Antrim last win an Ulster minor football title was/82....remember it well....

And Donegal's ability to never win college football but win some all Irelands means it doesn't mean a strong school success works out at senior county! How many titles have the SW schools managed?
No colleges in the S West MR2......thought a smart lad like u would know that even though u never seem to make it this far.
Can assure you that their are more than a. few Mc Crory medals jangling in the pockets of S West based players.....think they have picked up 9 or 10 this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:09:26 PM
I thought that, so with all the medals in the SW surely then Antrim had plenty of representation at College level winning MacRory cups but we're still shit?? You don't make any sense... again can you answer Donegals success at senior intercounty without EVER winning at college level??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:09:26 PM
I thought that, so with all the medals in the SW surely then Antrim had plenty of representation at College level winning MacRory cups but we're still shit?? You don't make any sense... again can you answer Donegals success at senior intercounty without EVER winning at college level??
Jeez was BS who brought up the nutty professor college wastage thing.......ask him sure Donegal is a long ways from home and like urself I like to stay near home.
Sure the Tir Conail men may well be late developers ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 08:25:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:09:26 PM
I thought that, so with all the medals in the SW surely then Antrim had plenty of representation at College level winning MacRory cups but we're still shit?? You don't make any sense... again can you answer Donegals success at senior intercounty without EVER winning at college level??

Vocational schools ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
Can your knowledgeable teacher mate remember when a Belfast college last won a Mc Crory cup  BS......?

::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 09:10:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
Can your knowledgeable teacher mate remember when a B :)elfast college last won a Mc Crory cup  BS......?

::)
And....... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
Sorry I'm confused you said it was BS but it was you  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 24, 2017, 09:25:28 PM
CB and MR2 what are your solutions to making us successful on the national stage?

There is no doubt if we had schools playing at a consistantly higher level that would improve our lot.

You speak to boys from other counties and you hear them saying from they got to 1st year in secondary school their dream was to make the McCrory team. You hear them saying the McCrory team often trained twice a day including lunchtime...that training was harder than most  did after leaving school. You have our boys pulling on an Antrim minor jersey and then going and trying to compete at that level and intensity. Look at the final last week...it is fitness, intensity, power and skill thats needed. We need to improve our players at underage on all those aspects

I have been told 3 things from i started playing that improved my game...3 things is too little and a sad indictment of the skills coaching in our county. Everything else has just been bluster and shite like get stuck into them, you have to want it boys etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
We need dedicated coaches following a certain training guidelines, having a foundation coaching course won't cut it, having the abilities to vary coaching, tournaments at all levels with various clubs from inside and outside the county, development of players at divisional level (keeps travel and distance down) at all ages all year... coaches coming into schools and taking the burden away from teachers who are too busy with work and taking the teams (training and games) having a centre of excellence were not just the basics are taught on the pitch but using video analysis and lectures on games and game play plus nutrition and sport life balances.... I could go on and this applies for all ages and both codes...

These are just some views, planning and executing these would prove a lot harder to do currently, as it requires huge funding and commitment, also needs to be monitored and assessed, Antrim has more players more senior clubs than more successful counties, its a mystery why we fail so many times
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 25, 2017, 12:22:59 AM
Indeed CB. My knowledgeable contact played in that Antrim minor team that won the Ulster cship. 82 was the year correct. I stand corrected on the Mc Rory cup stat. St Mary's lost to eventual winners St Pats by a point in the semi final after extra time. Think for some reason that match was in Glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 25, 2017, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 25, 2017, 12:22:59 AM
Indeed CB. My knowledgeable contact played in that Antrim minor team that won the Ulster cship. 82 was the year correct. I stand corrected on the Mc Rory cup stat. St Mary's lost to eventual winners St Pats by a point in the semi final after extra time. Think for some reason that match was in Glenravel.
The last time we won the McRory Cup was 1986, i was on the panel. That team gave to the county numerous minor, u21 and senior players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 25, 2017, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2017, 08:25:54 AM
The plan is for Belfast CB, not for Antrim. The GAA has identified that it is strong in rural areas, but is being hit hard by soccer and increasingly rugby in the cities and large towns.

With Dublin now flourishing Antrim officials moved swiftly to make a case for games development in Irelands second largest city, and that process is going well through the discussion stages.

There's not really a big soccer tradition, of rugby either in Toomebridge, Portglenone, or Loughgiel etc, so that's not their focus. I was going to say unfortunately, but will change that to gladly.

Let's say Belfast gets funding for 10 coaches for schools etc..Id say brilliant. But others will say "what about the South West." It really all depends on your outlook. Belfast has slipped way back and as a county we need it strong.

Oh and yes. The trickle down effect will see extra coaching in SW and NA. So while you mightnt see that written down maybe some good faith could do the trick.

|Disappointed to hear that this is a Belfast centric approach. Dublin didn't go for a North Dublin / South Dublin approach, they went with a Dublin approach which also included the country Dublin clubs.

As CB stated over the last 60 years, 1 club form the SW has won titles, over the past 120 years only 5 county clubs won titles, so in football approx. 15 titles in 120 years, so were in the 12 / 15% range of titles won, and Antrim is only focusing on the city. That's disappointing.

It would be the like creating a hurling proposal for Antrim and only focusing on N. Antrim.

It's this type of narrow thinking that worries me, and doesn't give me much confidence that Antrim have the correct blueprint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 25, 2017, 12:49:04 PM
The reality is if Belfast maxed out then the country clubs would probably not get a look in at all.  Yes you might have a few exceptional teams from time to time but sheer weight of numbers exploited fully should ensure that the are half a dozen extremely strong clubs from the city.  I do not know the participation rates of kids in the city compared to kids in the country but I would not be surprised to learn that it is as much as 10 fold in favour of the country and as such is ensuring that we have as many Div 1 country clubs as city.  In reality it is not going to be a max out job anyway but there is certainly more potential for growth in Belfast than elsewhere in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
Had the leakage fixed//confirmed.....Lenny is the man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 25, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
Had the leakage fixed//confirmed.....Lenny is the man.

Kevin will be back on the team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 08:44:01 PM
Harbinson appointed as Antrim Senior Manager
 
Former Antrim inter-county player and All-Ireland winning St Gall's manager, Lenny Harbinson, has been appointed Antrim Senior Football Manager following the ratification of the recommendation made by the Antrim Senior Football Review Group at tonight's County Committee meeting in the Dunsilly Hotel. 
 
Chair of the Review Group, Alec McQuillan said: 
 
"Starting with an analysis of last year's performance, the Review Group has carried out its work over the summer culminating in our report and recommendation this evening. We have ensured that the processes we have followed were both robust and even-handed in their delivery. And we have been very impressed by the standards set in the process. Lenny gave an excellent presentation of his wide-ranging and detailed approach and we felt that he was best suited for the job at this time. The standard was very high and we are very grateful to the other candidates for their interest and commitment throughout the process
 
"Now that our recommendation has been ratified, the work starts on all fronts to prepare the senior footballers for next season. The Review Group is committed to maintaining a role in the monitoring of the squad and the manager and we will meet with Lenny and his team at various times over the course of the season."
 
Antrim Chairman, Collie Donnelly added: 
 
"We are very grateful to Alec, Ciaran and Paul for the very thorough and diligent job they have done over these last months, they have followed a very professional process and made an excellent recommendation. Lenny is a manager of the highest calibre and we are looking forward to the new season. We are also very grateful to Gearoid Adams and Frank Fitzsimons, two very committed Antrim men, for their work with the team over the last three years. Thanks to them, a number of excellent young players is coming through and we believe there is real potential for the future."
 
Notes
 
The Review Group is made up of Alec McQuillan, Paul McErlean and Ciaran Hamill, all ex-Antrim senior footballers.
 
The term is for 3 years with a review each year. 
 
Lenny Harbinson is the current Manager of Ballymacnab Round Towers with whom he won promotion last year to Division 1A and who play in the semi-final of the Armagh Championship this weekend. He was manager of St Gall's when they won the All-Ireland Club Championship and he was a distinguished player also, playing for Antrim for 12 years, also winning 5 Antrim titles and an Ulster Club title with St Gall's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment

Typical response .... Shock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on September 25, 2017, 09:18:48 PM
Why does it matter what you're bt code is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 25, 2017, 09:21:32 PM
Good luck to him! A good manager and a decent man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment

Typical response .... Shock

Would expect nothing else from an establishment apologist. More of the same please Sir. Bargain bucket manager....again.

"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always gotten." JP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment

Typical response .... Shock

Would expect nothing else from an eatablishment apologist. More of the same please Sir. Bargain bucket manager....again.

"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always gotten." JP

Who else was in for the job Spike?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment

Typical response .... Shock

Would expect nothing else from an eatablishment apologist. More of the same please Sir. Bargain bucket manager....again.

"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always gotten." JP

Who else was in for the job Spike?

If you dont know that then not only do you not leave west belfast but you must not leave your front room either. Lets just say candidates that could offer something different. Instead we can look forward to a plucky division 4 campaign and a horrible championship campaign...for the next 3 years. Dont try calling Niblock, Crozier or Niall McKeever for the next week - id say their phones will be conveniently turned off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment

Typical response .... Shock

Would expect nothing else from an eatablishment apologist. More of the same please Sir. Bargain bucket manager....again.

"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always gotten." JP

Who else was in for the job Spike?

If you dont know that then not only do you not leave west belfast but you must not leave your front room either. Lets just say candidates that could offer something different. Instead we can look forward to a plucky division 4 campaign and a horrible championship campaign...for the next 3 years. Dont try calling Niblock, Crozier or Niall McKeever for the next week - id say their phones will be conveniently turned off.

So you're not going to say cause you don't know... I'd say Niblock has probably hung his county boots up, I hope not as he's been great for Antrim... as for the other two you know this?

I don't live in Belfast, but carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
So the board have went with the tried and trusted route of success that Antrim has been built upon for the last 100 years - a west belfast man who is the best 'value for money'.  Shock.

Gluttons for punishment

Typical response .... Shock

Would expect nothing else from an eatablishment apologist. More of the same please Sir. Bargain bucket manager....again.

"If you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always gotten." JP

Who else was in for the job Spike?

If you dont know that then not only do you not leave west belfast but you must not leave your front room either. Lets just say candidates that could offer something different. Instead we can look forward to a plucky division 4 campaign and a horrible championship campaign...for the next 3 years. Dont try calling Niblock, Crozier or Niall McKeever for the next week - id say their phones will be conveniently turned off.

So you're not going to say cause you don't know... I'd say Niblock has probably hung his county boots up, I hope not as he's been great for Antrim... as for the other two you know this?

I don't live in Belfast, but carry on

Merely surmising about crozier and mckeever and thought the dogs in the street knew the other candidates names.

Sure why would.our best elder talent want to turn up for more of the same.  It doesnt take mystic meg to see cj mcgourty miraculously turning up in may (after months of injuries and no training) to save antrim in the championship....and doing nothing....again.  its just more of the same, year after year.  Jobs for the boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2017, 10:11:42 PM
So another kicking for our PRO...takes a lot to make him lose his cool........but ffs who would blame him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 10:27:23 PM
Lenny has as good a record if not better that mckeever and
o'rourke just because hes the cheapest option and from st galls  doesnt make him the wrong option. His appointment will not go down well in the south west but sure we cant please everyone as for niall mc keever keeping his phone off well thats not a bad idea hes been terrible for us when he hasnt been injured. Biggest hurdle lenny has is his family connection to cj who isnt well liked outside of the mcgourty house hold. Cj has been our best scorer and no one can despute that but he carries too much baggage and is never in shape and needs carried by the rest of the team. Bannsides not going to be in good form especially after all his scouting round the irish leagues best players trying to convince then to play for his Antrim. Sure he was a sure thing if u believed all the talk coming from south west. Hope he still gets behind his beloved county now hes been snubbed again. Best of luck lenny hope u can build on what fitzy has started, play those who want to play for Antrim not those who want to play for their own manager.
Think we have a tough few years ahead but at least we wont pay through the nose for it .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:37:04 PM
The way you were talking Spike I thought that maybe Mickey Harte, Galvin, big Joe or some other All Ireland winning manager was going to put their names in a hat ! But O'Rouke and McKeever? Seriously where would they take us that Lenny couldn't?

Antrim don't have the personnel (despite what BS, says, sorry BS) to be competitive unless players buy in... to use your quote..if the players continue to do the same things then the players will continue to get the same results
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:37:04 PM
The way you were talking Spike I thought that maybe Mickey Harte, Galvin, big Joe or some other All Ireland winning manager was going to put their names in a hat ! But O'Rouke and McKeever? Seriously where would they take us that Lenny couldn't?

Antrim don't have the personnel (despite what BS, says, sorry BS) to be competitive unless players buy in... to use your quote..if the players continue to do the same things then the players will continue to get the same results

I see what you did there - use my quote and turn it on the players.  I just want the board to try something new for a few years.   Surely its apparent the simple correlation of antrims success in the past 50 years, west belfast managers and outside managers.  Its not hard to read. But sure lets keep doing the same thing and.expect a different outcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on September 25, 2017, 10:49:30 PM
The man can only be judged by his actions. And as he has only been appointed a matter of hours I think it is a bit early to be criticizing the man. Think quite a few on here need a reality check and lower their expectations in the short term. Personally I wish him every success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait


Mr2, you know you should never bite the hand that feeds you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait

Never bite the hand tbat feeds you

Does a dark cloud follow you everywhere?

They were hardly getting paid for searching for a manager ffs! Jesus you really are dumb..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 11:05:35 PM
Sure its all Belfasts fault.
Spike all the success at senior level the last 50 years has been from Belfast clubs so i suppose thats why they have got the nod for the jobs. Everyone knows North Antrim run the county even the football which they dont even allow their clubs to play maybe they see lennys appointment being a better result for the Antrim hurlers .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait

Never bite the hand tbat feeds you

Does a dark cloud follow you everywhere?

They were hardly getting paid for searching for a manager ffs! Jesus you really are dumb..

Rich coming from a pleb who spouts about all things antrim and didnt know who was in for the job.  A man obviously  with his finger on the pulse. Not a scooy do u have.

I for one sincerely hope Lenny proves to be a success, but it will be luck not good planning by the antrim.board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2017, 11:10:52 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 11:05:35 PM
Sure its all Belfasts fault.
Spike all the success at senior level the last 50 years has been from Belfast clubs so i suppose thats why they have got the nod for the jobs. Everyone knows North Antrim run the county even the football which they dont even allow their clubs to play maybe they see lennys appointment being a better result for the Antrim hurlers .
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Im not blaming belfast - i want to see a change in tack.

Thats quite the conspiracy theory tho!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 11:18:28 PM
What makes mckeever a suitable sw man. Id say his current club team wont be happy with all this hype about him getting the Antrim job, shows a real lack of ambition to succeed with them. Maybe their happy to be an after thought .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 25, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
To do the same thing repeatedly and expect different results is a sign of madness - Einstein.

Looking like more of the same for our footballers for the foreseeable future. Sign 😣😣😣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 25, 2017, 11:23:30 PM
Good luck lenny but i feel its just jobs for the boys again.
Has there ever been a south west manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 25, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
Not slating the man as im sure he is  a very capable man just feel amtrim have missed a trick in terns of bringing us out of the dark ages and into a new professional era.hope im wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 11:30:26 PM
Galer
Who should have got the job in your eyes and what makes u think he would have taken us out of the dark ages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 25, 2017, 11:38:00 PM
O rourke and mckeever are involved in ultra professional setups and would have brought that with them.the budget lenny has set himself is just more of the same,sure hes a better manager than previous but in the modern game especially county level finance is paramount,i hope he does well i just feel that success at this level isnt achievable at this level with his budget.ffs carlow had a backroom team of 16.who has lenny got?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 11:43:50 PM
Ok lets round up 20 sw men give them expenses totaling around 100,000 a year and we will pick up sam within the next 3 years sure if its backroom men we need lets just go get them. Forget about the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on September 25, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
No matter if you appointed Lenny, O'Rourke or McKeever they all would have had same budget ffs. Issue remains Antrim need their best players all buying into the county set up from the outset.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 25, 2017, 11:51:57 PM
Didnt say that.. but its damm good idea.
Why would players buy into a second rate system again and again.most senior clubs in antrim have a better set up than antrim.in derry,down and tyrone all senior sides have a better set up.what is lenny going to change?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on September 25, 2017, 11:56:25 PM
That's up to him. Surely he knows the issues within the County as well as anyone on here but he is still willing to give it a rattle. Time will tell I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 26, 2017, 12:00:45 AM
Like what ? What do we need for our players that fitzy didnt have last year. O thats right he hadnt a big enough backroom team.
Lennys won a senior all ireland club title im sure hes well aware what the county will need.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2017, 06:21:41 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 25, 2017, 11:43:50 PM
Ok lets round up 20 sw men give them expenses totaling around 100,000 a year and we will pick up sam within the next 3 years sure if its backroom men we need lets just go get them. Forget about the players.

God forbid we spent any money or got a SW man in.  The board have just appointed the same type of manager they always do - bargain bucket - so we'll just be getting served up the same crud as we have as past few years.   Whats worng with changing the record to see what happens? Cant be any worse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2017, 06:32:39 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 26, 2017, 12:00:45 AM
Like what ? What do we need for our players that fitzy didnt have last year. O thats right he hadnt a big enough backroom team.
Lennys won a senior all ireland club title im sure hes well aware what the county will need.

Lenny won the all ireland with a club side who were well established over the previous decade and already beaten in an all ireland final. Antrim is a completely different set of circumstances. And more importantly, the players can see what Antrim board is now offering conpared to other county set ups, will get frustrated, lose full buy in and the vicious circle starts again.  If Lenny gets no budget for a good backroom set up he ia up against it again.  If the board are going bargain bucket for the manager then they need to back Lenny and give him the funds for a proper professional set up like every other county in ireland has.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 26, 2017, 07:06:23 AM
Rafferty took st galls to an all ireland final and ask bellaghy what they think of him.lenny doesnt even get any credit from st galls people for there all ireland.he has told the county board his backroom and costs so no he doesnt have the same budget.so we will get some exboxer from belfast from s&c,some one who has done a marathon in less than 5 hrs as fitness coach.and who will b fiddled in for the catering this time.saff vision could have made a serious statement with there selection instead its the same old.
Bannside ur very quiet now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait

Never bite the hand tbat feeds you

Does a dark cloud follow you everywhere?

They were hardly getting paid for searching for a manager ffs! Jesus you really are dumb..

Rich coming from a pleb who spouts about all things antrim and didnt know who was in for the job.  A man obviously  with his finger on the pulse. Not a scooy do u have.

I for one sincerely hope Lenny proves to be a success, but it will be luck not good planning by the antrim.board

But I did know ya numpty! You never came out with it that's why I asked ... you are coming across as a proper twat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 07:50:18 AM
Quote from: Galer on September 26, 2017, 07:06:23 AM
Rafferty took st galls to an all ireland final and ask bellaghy what they think of him.lenny doesnt even get any credit from st galls people for there all ireland.he has told the county board his backroom and costs so no he doesnt have the same budget.so we will get some exboxer from belfast from s&c,some one who has done a marathon in less than 5 hrs as fitness coach.and who will b fiddled in for the catering this time.saff vision could have made a serious statement with there selection instead its the same old.
Bannside ur very quiet now

I fail to see what O'Rouke and McKeever have done at management level that Lenny hasn't? Was McKeever ever part of a county team set up before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 07:43:38 AM
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Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait

Never bite the hand tbat feeds you

Does a dark cloud follow you everywhere?

They were hardly getting paid for searching for a manager ffs! Jesus you really are dumb..

Rich coming from a pleb who spouts about all things antrim and didnt know who was in for the job.  A man obviously  with his finger on the pulse. Not a scooy do u have.

I for one sincerely hope Lenny proves to be a success, but it will be luck not good planning by the antrim.board

But I did know ya numpty! You never came out with it that's why I asked ... you are coming across as a proper twat

Personal insults sum you up MR2.  No debate just slabbering in front of a keyboard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2017, 08:54:46 AM
If you put all 3 CVs out on the table and didn't take into consideration what county they're from then Lenny would come out on top. O'Rourke is hardly Jim Gavin ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 26, 2017, 09:00:52 AM
What happened with the PRO last night? Read an earlier post about something happening. Be a terrible shame if we lost him, best we have had in a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:16:15 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
Utter madness.  Build on fitzys work??? Ffs.     As for pleasing the SW players, just once appoint a suitable SW man and not one of the boys.  Just take a look at the last 50 years - the only glimpse of success we had was with a non west belfast man.  Just try something different rather than repeat the same formula for underachievement every year.  West belfast man-check.  Trainings in belfast - check. Every man, woman, child in west belfast gets a trial game in the league - check. Parachute belfast 'stars' in the week before ulster championship - check.  Utter failure in ulster championship - check. Repeat ad nauseum.

Im sure lenny is a really nice guy...but...he is just another cliche antrim manager

Who was on the panel to pick a manager? Was there any SW men on it? Oh wait

Never bite the hand tbat feeds you

Does a dark cloud follow you everywhere?

They were hardly getting paid for searching for a manager ffs! Jesus you really are dumb..

Rich coming from a pleb who spouts about all things antrim and didnt know who was in for the job.  A man obviously  with his finger on the pulse. Not a scooy do u have.

I for one sincerely hope Lenny proves to be a success, but it will be luck not good planning by the antrim.board

But I did know ya numpty! You never came out with it that's why I asked ... you are coming across as a proper twat

Personal insults sum you up MR2.  No debate just slabbering in front of a keyboard.

You brought in the insults first, youve no debate what so ever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:20:36 AM
With all the CV's on the table, yes, Lenny would come out on top.

The difference, as mentioned before, is that McKeever and O'Rourke have been a part of professional set ups and from what I hear were demanding that Antrim transitioned in to a professional set up. Which means the highest level of funding possible.

Of course, Saffron vision are in their infancy of their bigger picture and perhaps they are not ready to invest such capital. With the business scheme starting to gain momentum we might be in a far stronger position financially in 2/3 years time.

Did I hear JC was a part of the backroom staff, that might appease all the SW chat on here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 26, 2017, 09:25:32 AM
There not ready to invest in football u mean.if the hurlers ask they get.dont want to give off about lenny as im sure he is a good fella with a sound football knowledge but he will be hamstrung to.the sw reps will be mcaleer,delargy and a few aghallon boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:20:36 AM
With all the CV's on the table, yes, Lenny would come out on top.

The difference, as mentioned before, is that McKeever and O'Rourke have been a part of professional set ups and from what I hear were demanding that Antrim transitioned in to a professional set up. Which means the highest level of funding possible.

Of course, Saffron vision are in their infancy of their bigger picture and perhaps they are not ready to invest such capital. With the business scheme starting to gain momentum we might be in a far stronger position financially in 2/3 years time.

Did I hear JC was a part of the backroom staff, that might appease all the SW chat on here?

you mean they were getting paid?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2017, 09:35:04 AM
My IQ points have dipped just engaging with MR2 and his playground antics but i digress......

Ive no doubt JC will make a good link with the SW contingent and that can only be a positive.  Its just that SV were supposed to be game changers but all we see is apparently the same formula of previous regimes regurgitated in regard to manager, budgets etc etc

Hoped this time it would be different but if this is the route we are on then for goodness sake give the man a proper backroom team, staff and facilities. Give some acknowledgement to the SW and respect for its players by training there - at least you'll soon see who is committed.

No doubt further details will emerge in due course but lets hope Lenny gets the full financial and supportive backing of the board and no reneging on promises come january.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 26, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
Is lenny doing it for nothing mr2?
Was adams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
It is very clear what I mean but you can continue to be facetious.

Fitzy was hamstrung, Adams too. Now Lenny will be no different. McK, O'R and Lenny all know how difficult the job is, the two men in question wanted every possible advantage to get the set up off the ground.

Like it or not MR2, if there isn't money invested in the players they will stay at their clubs. No question! fs Cargin's set up has been better than Antrim's for the last three years! No wonder half of them don't fancy driving to Belfast 3 times a week.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:20:36 AM
With all the CV's on the table, yes, Lenny would come out on top.

The difference, as mentioned before, is that McKeever and O'Rourke have been a part of professional set ups and from what I hear were demanding that Antrim transitioned in to a professional set up. Which means the highest level of funding possible.

Of course, Saffron vision are in their infancy of their bigger picture and perhaps they are not ready to invest such capital. With the business scheme starting to gain momentum we might be in a far stronger position financially in 2/3 years time.

Did I hear JC was a part of the backroom staff, that might appease all the SW chat on here?

you mean they were getting paid?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2017, 09:50:21 AM
Maybe one of the reasons we are fucked as a county is because too many don't give a guy a chance on his own merit but rather have to generalize, throw negativity and give up before we begin.  These are the traits of losers which our county has been for a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 26, 2017, 09:54:23 AM
Good luck to Lenny.  Looks like he's gonna need it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:59:51 AM
Look, Lenny could be the best rope maker in the world, the problem is we are handing him thread.

A lot of the negativity is directed at the means not the outcome.

Quote from: Hectic on September 26, 2017, 09:50:21 AM
Maybe one of the reasons we are fucked as a county is because too many don't give a guy a chance on his own merit but rather have to generalize, throw negativity and give up before we begin.  These are the traits of losers which our county has been for a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: Galer on September 26, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
Is lenny doing it for nothing mr2?
Was adams?

dId i say he was? Who does nowadays?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2017, 10:47:00 AM
Can't speak of McKeever but I haven't heard good reports about O'Rourke and his managaement. Lenny is a good manager. The probelm will be if he gets the right support from county board and players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 10:50:30 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
It is very clear what I mean but you can continue to be facetious.

Fitzy was hamstrung, Adams too. Now Lenny will be no different. McK, O'R and Lenny all know how difficult the job is, the two men in question wanted every possible advantage to get the set up off the ground.

Like it or not MR2, if there isn't money invested in the players they will stay at their clubs. No question! fs Cargin's set up has been better than Antrim's for the last three years! No wonder half of them don't fancy driving to Belfast 3 times a week.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on September 26, 2017, 09:20:36 AM
With all the CV's on the table, yes, Lenny would come out on top.

The difference, as mentioned before, is that McKeever and O'Rourke have been a part of professional set ups and from what I hear were demanding that Antrim transitioned in to a professional set up. Which means the highest level of funding possible.

Of course, Saffron vision are in their infancy of their bigger picture and perhaps they are not ready to invest such capital. With the business scheme starting to gain momentum we might be in a far stronger position financially in 2/3 years time.

Did I hear JC was a part of the backroom staff, that might appease all the SW chat on here?

you mean they were getting paid?

If you care to look at the previous posts I've put on, Ive always stated that the problem is not the management, it's what they have to work with, there is not a current successful manager in Ireland that would be able to come in and make us Ulster champions in the next 4 years if we continue with current structures... we won't do anything either if a panel is brought together and continues to do the same thing as before... but coming on here and lambasting a newly appointment management team before they have had a chance to have a cup of coffee is daft...

And this has nothing to do with Lenny being a clubman of mine

The SW lads on here are really getting their back up on appointments, very embarrassing and shows it to be petty, you'll not get one Belfast poster complaining about a NA managemet team taking the hurlers, even though the most successfull managers were from Belfast  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2017, 10:59:06 AM
Call it negative if you like but the comments here are not a slight on Lenny as a man, im sure he is a fine fellow.  The reasoning for disgruntlement is the continuation to appoint managers and staff in the same manner as we have for decades (baker being the exception) as experience tells us that unless we do something different we will experience the same abject results as we have achieved for decades (again baker being the only exception).    SW players have been underwhelmed as past few years at the county and I fail to see how that will change under this 3 year period unless major changes are made behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2017, 10:59:06 AM
Call it negative if you like but the comments here are not a slight on Lenny as a man, im sure he is a fine fellow.  The reasoning for disgruntlement is the continuation to appoint managers and staff in the same manner as we have for decades (baker being the exception) as experience tells us that unless we do something different we will experience the same abject results as we have achieved for decades (again baker being the only exception).    SW players have been underwhelmed as past few years at the county and I fail to see how that will change under this 3 year period unless major changes are made behind the scenes.

Its being reviewed every year and a current monitoring system in place i believe... Again, do you think bringing in a SW man or an Armagh man would have changed it? If you feel that the current set up who searched interviewed appointed and rattified the manager is continuing to do it wrong then whats your solution?

Throwing money at things might help short time its doesnt make players into world beaters. I'm 100% sure that Lenny would have a plan a view and everything he believes will improve Antrim, why else would you bother, he'd have a presentation done with backroom people in place and a training schedule set up with realistic targets set out.

I'm sure there are some people here who have interviewed people for jobs and on the day these people were brilliant, when they actually settled into the job they were no different to the one who they took over from, we live in hope that it wont fall down that road and that the county will have given Lenny the resources he needs to match his plan, otherwise why would he take it on.. its a two way thing, the county have to buy in also, as do the players and so called supporters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2017, 11:17:44 AM
Look that is the thing.  There is a lot of work to be done from grassroots up, structures etc but that is building for the future.  In the here and now what is to stop all our best players weighing in behind the new manager to see what we can achieve?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Anybody know the make up of Lennys back room team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Anybody know the make up of Lennys back room team?

Spike would know, or CB due to his leakage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 26, 2017, 11:52:54 AM
Mr2 thats the most impressing peice u have ever wrote,you sre right its not about sw or lenny it is the structures and why most people on here wanted one of the other canditates to force the county board into making a commitment,dont doubt lenny is a goid man/manager but it wont make a diff.the other 2 would have made the cb/saff vis open there eyes to a professional set up.in short term they mightnt fair any better than lenny but would have made the cb just what has to b done,not just at senior but underage development as well.that is the thorn.either o rourke or mckeev would have restructured the whole thing something sv cant do and dont have the vision to do.
Bannside is the biggest cheerleader on here about sv.how does he see them this morning?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
No doubt Lenny has a plan....so did fitzy, dawson, baker, whitey etc etc.....even thornberry but thats still to be actually confirmed. 
Im sure they were all sound and great.  Harbinsons will be based on the current squad, as will mckeevers but with a bit of an eye on further down. Aidans was a grassroots up proposal. He has been turned down twice now so i doubt he'll let his good name be tarnished any more with association with antrim again. Mckeever was begged to put his name in and yet again gets a sore nose. Both other candidates offered that hope to the players and supporters of something different.   The board have went with the status quo and the repeated formula of failure so why would SW player.or general antrim supporter think things will be any different from before? 

If it was a SW manager/ outside man that had repeated failures i would be saying get a belfast man in for a change. Jesus we've had decades of failure following this formula so why cant we change it up .

At the very least,surely it must be conceded that we are repeating what we have always done?   

Will be interested to hear from contributors who have worked with Lenny and what his plus points are.  Hopefully he ia a student of S&C, a great communicator, has no time for training ground bluffers  and has great in-game management.  If he has those 4 stengths at least then we have a chance of improvement and getting off to the right start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2017, 01:09:30 PM
Its not the mans club or location that count but the man himself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Anybody know the make up of Lennys back room team?

Rimmel London.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 26, 2017, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2017, 11:58:11 AM

Will be interested to hear from contributors who have worked with Lenny and what his plus points are.  Hopefully he ia a student of S&C, a great communicator, has no time for training ground bluffers  and has great in-game management.  If he has those 4 stengths at least then we have a chance of improvement and getting off to the right start.

Played under him in the early days of his coaching career.  And he does indeed have these qualities, in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 26, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Anybody know the make up of Lennys back room team?

Rimmel London.

Har de har bawbag!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on September 26, 2017, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
No doubt Lenny has a plan....so did fitzy, dawson, baker, whitey etc etc.....even thornberry but thats still to be actually confirmed. 
Im sure they were all sound and great.  Harbinsons will be based on the current squad, as will mckeevers but with a bit of an eye on further down. Aidans was a grassroots up proposal. He has been turned down twice now so i doubt he'll let his good name be tarnished any more with association with antrim again. Mckeever was begged to put his name in and yet again gets a sore nose. Both other candidates offered that hope to the players and supporters of something different.   The board have went with the status quo and the repeated formula of failure so why would SW player.or general antrim supporter think things will be any different from before? 

If it was a SW manager/ outside man that had repeated failures i would be saying get a belfast man in for a change. Jesus we've had decades of failure following this formula so why cant we change it up .

At the very least,surely it must be conceded that we are repeating what we have always done?   

Will be interested to hear from contributors who have worked with Lenny and what his plus points are.  Hopefully he ia a student of S&C, a great communicator, has no time for training ground bluffers  and has great in-game management.  If he has those 4 stengths at least then we have a chance of improvement and getting off to the right start.

Lenny is a good man. What you're saying above is also true. He is very similar to all that have failed to improve our lot before him. Would ave been great to see a radicall new approach to the setup  :-\ :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2017, 04:20:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Anybody know the make up of Lennys back room team?

Spike would know, or CB due to his leakage
Sworn to secrecy I'm afraid MR2..... :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 26, 2017, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
No doubt Lenny has a plan....so did fitzy, dawson, baker, whitey etc etc.....even thornberry but thats still to be actually confirmed. 
Im sure they were all sound and great.  Harbinsons will be based on the current squad, as will mckeevers but with a bit of an eye on further down. Aidans was a grassroots up proposal. He has been turned down twice now so i doubt he'll let his good name be tarnished any more with association with antrim again. Mckeever was begged to put his name in and yet again gets a sore nose. Both other candidates offered that hope to the players and supporters of something different.   The board have went with the status quo and the repeated formula of failure so why would SW player.or general antrim supporter think things will be any different from before? 

If it was a SW manager/ outside man that had repeated failures i would be saying get a belfast man in for a change. Jesus we've had decades of failure following this formula so why cant we change it up .

At the very least,surely it must be conceded that we are repeating what we have always done?   

Will be interested to hear from contributors who have worked with Lenny and what his plus points are.  Hopefully he ia a student of S&C, a great communicator, has no time for training ground bluffers  and has great in-game management.  If he has those 4 stengths at least then we have a chance of improvement and getting off to the right start.

Lenny is a good man. What you're saying above is also true. He is very similar to all that have failed to improve our lot before him. Would ave been great to see a radicall new approach to the setup  :-\ :(

Radical? Want to explain further?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

I think that is because we've been good down this road before, a West Belfast manager who is an ex county man and has mates on the committee. Now, before I get accused of being negative etc, I've no gripe with Lenny Harbinson or whoever his backroom team is. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

I think that is because we've been good down this road before, a West Belfast manager who is an ex county man and has mates on the committee. Now, before I get accused of being negative etc, I've no gripe with Lenny Harbinson or whoever his backroom team is.

What mates on the committee?? Jesus lads get over yourselves, paranoia and backroom deals ffs! Your not negative?? Wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

I think that is because we've been good down this road before, a West Belfast manager who is an ex county man and has mates on the committee. Now, before I get accused of being negative etc, I've no gripe with Lenny Harbinson or whoever his backroom team is.

Hey, let us know when you are being negative, just so we know. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

I think that is because we've been good down this road before, a West Belfast manager who is an ex county man and has mates on the committee. Now, before I get accused of being negative etc, I've no gripe with Lenny Harbinson or whoever his backroom team is.

Hey, let us know when you are being negative, just so we know. Thanks.

Nice of you to come out of the woodwork Brendan.

I'll back Lenny to the hilt, St Galls played some lovey Football when he was in charge and I hope he gets Antrim playing the same but he needs support of all our best players and the respect of them to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 08:55:44 PM
Didn't realise I had been in the woodwork
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2017, 08:58:26 PM
Do Brendan and MR2 have mates in high places ;)??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

I think that is because we've been good down this road before, a West Belfast manager who is an ex county man and has mates on the committee. Now, before I get accused of being negative etc, I've no gripe with Lenny Harbinson or whoever his backroom team is.

Hey, let us know when you are being negative, just so we know. Thanks.

Nice of you to come out of the woodwork Brendan.

I'll back Lenny to the hilt, St Galls played some lovey Football when he was in charge and I hope he gets Antrim playing the same but he needs support of all our best players and the respect of them to.

Eh? All of our best players? Is he going to play the worst players ? Jesus lad stop getting caught up it the us and themuns!! Child ground stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

I think that is because we've been good down this road before, a West Belfast manager who is an ex county man and has mates on the committee. Now, before I get accused of being negative etc, I've no gripe with Lenny Harbinson or whoever his backroom team is.

Hey, let us know when you are being negative, just so we know. Thanks.

Nice of you to come out of the woodwork Brendan.

I'll back Lenny to the hilt, St Galls played some lovey Football when he was in charge and I hope he gets Antrim playing the same but he needs support of all our best players and the respect of them to.

Eh? All of our best players? Is he going to play the worst players ? Jesus lad stop getting caught up it the us and themuns!! Child ground stuff

Jesus lad, there is no us and themuns, he needs a full deck of fit, committed players who want to play county football. Not a load of primadonnas who think they are bigger than the county and who want to spend their days talking to Brendan Crossan!

Stop stirring and twisting people posts!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
You are stirring the pot lad! Crossan and now CJ ?!!!! Get a fecking grip will you? Unreal. But hey keep digging a hole for yourself now that you've let the mask slip
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
You are stirring the pot lad! Crossan and now CJ ?!!!! Get a fecking grip will you? Unreal. But hey keep digging a hole for yourself now that you've let the mask slip

Who mentioned CJ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
You are stirring the pot lad! Crossan and now CJ ?!!!! Get a fecking grip will you? Unreal. But hey keep digging a hole for yourself now that you've let the mask slip

Who mentioned CJ?

Now you're being a dick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
You are stirring the pot lad! Crossan and now CJ ?!!!! Get a fecking grip will you? Unreal. But hey keep digging a hole for yourself now that you've let the mask slip

Who mentioned CJ?

Now you're being a dick

Settle big stuff, no need for the insult! At least one day every week we have an Antrim footballer or hurler on the back of the Irish News or Irish Star complaining about something, that's the point I'm making.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 10:55:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2017, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
You are stirring the pot lad! Crossan and now CJ ?!!!! Get a fecking grip will you? Unreal. But hey keep digging a hole for yourself now that you've let the mask slip

Who mentioned CJ?

Now you're being a dick

Settle big stuff, no need for the insult! At least one day every week we have an Antrim footballer or hurler on the back of the Irish News or Irish Star complaining about something, that's the point I'm making.

You are giving off about players who talk to jounos ... every county have players that chat to journos, it's a seriously bad news day if the likes of the Irish news needs a story from a div 4 county player or players as you put it...

If you feel that's one reason why Antrim are failing then you'll never be happy

It's down to management to curtail that if that's a policy they want to to take...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffs on Tour on September 26, 2017, 11:48:59 PM
Sorry state of affairs when some so called fans write off the tenure of our senior football manager 1 day after his appointment based on what exactly? Being from Belfast? Jesus wept. Give the man a chance - All Ireland winning manager to boot. 

Just to pick up on a few points in terms of funding and the constant criticisms of the Saffron Vision group from some.

Looking in from the outside the Saffron Business Forum seems a uniquely creative business venture that stands to make Antrim thousands (and already has). I honestly haven't heard of a model like this anywhere else in the country and it seems to be going from strength to strength - more coverage needed on our brilliant social media platforms.

One point that does irk me is this - where on God's green earth do certain posters believe this money that is going to turn us into an 'ultra professional set up' is going to come from? One of Theresa May's magic money trees? Let's get real - this current county board inherited a dire financial state of affairs - anyone who does not acknowledge that either has absolutely no clue about Antrim GAA in the slightest or is deliberately ignorant for some reason only known to themselves. Initiatives like the Saffron Business Forum are helping immensely, but won't turn us into big financial hitters overnight. A two year term to date to solve years and years of financial woe ain't gonna be enough guys - anyone with half a brain cell and one iota of business knowledge should know this. Sorry to offend those who have neither.

Does anyone here honestly believe the county board are actively withholding funding from our senior football team? In relation to the hurling comparison - I read in the Irish News a few weeks ago that G Adams did not feel there was a disparity in funding? Perhaps there is, I'm not sure - would've thought funding was decided at the start of the year when managers make their pitches etc

Which brings me to my last point - the statements seem to make it pretty clear how the manager was selected. A 3 man committee actively sought interest and went through an interview process before selecting who they believed to be the strongest candidate. This was then recommended to county committee (which is made up of club reps?) for ramification? Am I missing something here? I would have thought if the county board wanted the cheapest option they would have handpicked that themselves or at the very least not left it open to chance?

Unless of course the 3 man committee are also in on this conspiracy theory to exclude SW Antrim and keep all of King Midas's gold from the footballers.

PS a big rant for first post I'm aware but just disgusted at the negativity of some in relation to volunteers giving their time to try and actually help our county move forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 27, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Championship Predictions

Creggan v Lamh   - Creggan by 2 points
Cargin v St Johns  - Cargin by 3 points
Moneyglass v Dunloy - Moneyglass by 5 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 27, 2017, 02:54:26 AM
Championship Predictions

Creggan v Lamh   - Creggan by 2 points
Cargin v St Johns  - Cargin by 3 points
Moneyglass v Dunloy - Moneyglass by 5 points

Creggan by 1
Cargin by 8/9
Dunloy by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2017, 09:16:30 AM
Great first post there Saffs on Tour.  Love your "looking in from the outside", bit lol. Welcome on board, and some excellent points.

Now that the appointment has been made I want to make one or two quick points. The rest will wait until after I talk to JMK once he receives his feedback from Alec, head of the appointment committee later today.

I was firmly in the JMK corner and make no apology for that. He  is an outstanding candidate who, along with Conleth Gilligan are hugely regarded in the hotbed of club football in Derry and Tyrone. They will be hurting today, but are young enough to suck this up because they will have many good years ahead of them in top level management.

Finally, sincere congratulations to Lenny Harbinson. He is thoroughly likeable individual, and a good football man who the players will get to like and respect. 100% best wishes to him and his backroom team. I sincerely do hope he achieves his stated aim of putting pride back into Antrim Football, if that happens everyone is a winner.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 27, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
Any word on who Lenny backroom team is? Few rumours going around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2017, 10:35:44 AM
God forbid some Antrim supporters have the temerity to suggest following the same pattern of failure in appointing managers is not the best idea. Is there some fascist mindset out there that we must all be overjoyed at whoever the board stick in front of us, regardless of reasoning? 

Make no mistake about it, Lenny played in an era (3 decades) in Antrim club and county with those same assessors so he has more in common with them (not suggesting a conspiracy), he is an Establishment man, and he represents 'best value for money' so ticks a lot of their boxes. He also has an all-Ireland in his back pocket. He is also more of the same.

By far Lennys biggest advantage is that the only way is up. We are at rock bottom so any improvement in our situation can only be good.  I've no doubts at all that he will get us into Div 3.

I'm presuming Lenny follows Antrim club football (ie he hasn't been on a hiatus since he quit st galls) and therefore wont follow the example set by Dawson.  He has kept himself busy so should be fresh enough to follow modern tactics, trends and set-ups.

Lenny's biggest problem will be convincing the best players that this is not a continuance of the last 3 years.  No more training ground bluffers, Fair chances for all, Hard work in the gym & training ground will be rewarded, and that under no circumstances will non-trainers be parachuted into the squad in the weeks leading up to championship.  His S&C work will be critical.   Antrim are far too light at the moment and one pre-season in the gym wont correct that. The players are educated enough now to know in the first week whether he knows his stuff regarding S&C.

Lenny had a great system to work with at St Galls that Is now superceded.  Can he develop a new system with a different collection of players with Antrim to allow the best end product with the players at his disposal?  I haven't seen Ballymacnab play - is there anything about them that would hint at what Lennys preferred system would be?

Bottom line is, while I don't agree with thinking behind the appointment, Lenny has experience and hasn't been idle so he must have enough about him to take Antrim to Div 3.  Therefore, id like to hear what Lenny will bring to the party to get us to Div 2 and a good, progressive run in Ulster and the qualifiers.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 27, 2017, 11:08:39 AM
Were not going to div 2 because were not good enough, s&c is given too much press about county squads,  if u ask me players gym work should be 365 days a year with a lifestyle to match, this should be imprinted on our young generation at development squads etc . What good is a s&c coach to players like cj who is our best finisher by far but is clearly out of shape and hasnt a great lifestyle. S&c is one ingrediant in the make up of a county player committment, attitude, lifestyle, etc are others that we are really short of with our players. We have players choosing soccer over training, stag party weekends and then the usual bluffers who attend training but use slight injurys to rule themselves out. We r worried too much about the make up of our managers ie what clubs he from, whos he managed , whos his team all of which need to be creditable yes but we have forgotten about the players on the pitch what qualities are they bringing and all too often that is what lets us down. Development is the key word here and development squads are where all our attention should be. Lets have a long term plan developing the next Antrim senior team who bring all the right tools in their bag.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2017, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 27, 2017, 11:08:39 AM
Were not going to div 2 because were not good enough, s&c is given too much press about county squads,  if u ask me players gym work should be 365 days a year with a lifestyle to match, this should be imprinted on our young generation at development squads etc . What good is a s&c coach to players like cj who is our best finisher by far but is clearly out of shape and hasnt a great lifestyle. S&c is one ingrediant in the make up of a county player committment, attitude, lifestyle, etc are others that we are really short of with our players. We have players choosing soccer over training, stag party weekends and then the usual bluffers who attend training but use slight injurys to rule themselves out. We r worried too much about the make up of our managers ie what clubs he from, whos he managed , whos his team all of which need to be creditable yes but we have forgotten about the players on the pitch what qualities are they bringing and all too often that is what lets us down. Development is the key word here and development squads are where all our attention should be. Lets have a long term plan developing the next Antrim senior team who bring all the right tools in their bag.

If the board were concerned about development for the future they would have chosen O'Rourke and not Harbinson.
You make some good points but I would also say a footballer who is committed to training and S&C is usually committed in other walks of life as well.
Regarding CJ, its time to let go. Fantastic finisher, probably the best Antrim has ever seen, but the game is too fast and powerful now to carry a luxury like him. Every year we hope he will spend Xmas and spring fully training and committed and every year we see him start, get a mystery injury and then gets trotted out in May out of shape. Isnt Lenny related to him? so chances are if CJ wants to be there, he'll be there. Does Lenny have the ruthlessness to do what is needed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 27, 2017, 11:22:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 27, 2017, 09:16:30 AM
Great first post there Saffs on Tour.  Love your "looking in from the outside", bit lol. Welcome on board, and some excellent points.

Now that the appointment has been made I want to make one or two quick points. The rest will wait until after I talk to JMK once he receives his feedback from Alec, head of the appointment committee later today.

I was firmly in the JMK corner and make no apology for that. He  is an outstanding candidate who, along with Conleth Gilligan are hugely regarded in the hotbed of club football in Derry and Tyrone. They will be hurting today, but are young enough to suck this up because they will have many good years ahead of them in top level management.

Finally, sincere congratulations to Lenny Harbinson. He is thoroughly likeable individual, and a good football man who the players will get to like and respect. 100% best wishes to him and his backroom team. I sincerely do hope he achieves his stated aim of putting pride back into Antrim Football, if that happens everyone is a winner.

BS I always find you informative and interesting but I am not sure if I was JMK I would be wanting you to announce that you will be updating us all on your views after having a conversation with him - that conversation probably better kept private IMO especially given he is an outstanding individual and manager who has years ahead of him.  I would be sure if he had anything he felt needed to be highlighted he would be well capable of doing that himself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2017, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 27, 2017, 11:22:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 27, 2017, 09:16:30 AM
Great first post there Saffs on Tour.  Love your "looking in from the outside", bit lol. Welcome on board, and some excellent points.

Now that the appointment has been made I want to make one or two quick points. The rest will wait until after I talk to JMK once he receives his feedback from Alec, head of the appointment committee later today.

I was firmly in the JMK corner and make no apology for that. He  is an outstanding candidate who, along with Conleth Gilligan are hugely regarded in the hotbed of club football in Derry and Tyrone. They will be hurting today, but are young enough to suck this up because they will have many good years ahead of them in top level management.

Finally, sincere congratulations to Lenny Harbinson. He is thoroughly likeable individual, and a good football man who the players will get to like and respect. 100% best wishes to him and his backroom team. I sincerely do hope he achieves his stated aim of putting pride back into Antrim Football, if that happens everyone is a winner.

BS I always find you informative and interesting but I am not sure if I was JMK I would be wanting you to announce that you will be updating us all on your views after having a conversation with him - that conversation probably better kept private IMO especially given he is an outstanding individual and manager who has years ahead of him.  I would be sure if he had anything he felt needed to be highlighted he would be well capable of doing that himself.

Yeah dont think there is much of an update needed.
I think he would be better staying on the club circuit train.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 27, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
To Saffs on Tour
I don't doubt any of the info about county finances but would really welcome clarity on county finances. In my experience of financial mgt at club level the more open you are the more likely people are to come forward and help.
How much is the legacy debt?
Where is Business Forum money going to? (Brilliant initiative)
Is Club Aontroma still going
etc , etc
I think people often gripe about finances when they don't know the full picture..............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Under Lights on September 27, 2017, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 27, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
Any word on who Lenny backroom team is? Few rumours going around.

2 Tyrone men on it I hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
That's a fair point Hectic. There is a lot of info involved in this process that I have been privy to, and the vast majority has remained confidential and will continue that way. I would have a lot of time for the fellas on the sub committee, would know them all well and would trust their integrity. The big question for me is whether they went for the best candidate or the best value candidate. There is a succinct but important difference.

As you say, John is well able to talk for himself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 27, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
That's a fair point Hectic. There is a lot of info involved in this process that I have been privy to, and the vast majority has remained confidential and will continue that way. I would have a lot of time for the fellas on the sub committee, would know them all well and would trust their integrity. The big question for me is whether they went for the best candidate or the best value candidate. There is a succinct but important difference.

As you say, John is well able to talk for himself.

What would a typical div 3/4 intercounty team have as a budget to run a county team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2017, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 27, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
That's a fair point Hectic. There is a lot of info involved in this process that I have been privy to, and the vast majority has remained confidential and will continue that way. I would have a lot of time for the fellas on the sub committee, would know them all well and would trust their integrity. The big question for me is whether they went for the best candidate or the best value candidate. There is a succinct but important difference.

As you say, John is well able to talk for himself.

What would a typical div 3/4 intercounty team have as a budget to run a county team?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/mayo-the-big-spenders-this-graph-breaks-down-each-countys-costs-in-2016-35458592.html

There you go mate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 27, 2017, 02:18:25 PM
Cost Antrim £145k last year or there about's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2017, 02:22:54 PM
I'm sure all that info us out there MR someone did a breakdown of what the counties spent on inter county preparation. Can recall seeing those figures a year or two back and our spend was in thd middle for div 3/4, but interestingly our hurling spend dwarfed our football spend. To be honest I didn't read too much into it. Would those figures be really that accurate? A good accountant can massage figures any way he wants, put things into different columns. Some payments front door others back door etc! Plus.....a county will spend more the longer length of time it is still involved in the championship blah blah
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 27, 2017, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 27, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
That's a fair point Hectic. There is a lot of info involved in this process that I have been privy to, and the vast majority has remained confidential and will continue that way. I would have a lot of time for the fellas on the sub committee, would know them all well and would trust their integrity. The big question for me is whether they went for the best candidate or the best value candidate. There is a succinct but important difference.

As you say, John is well able to talk for himself.

Of course and I respect you opinion - just that it read like you were going to be giving us more of your opinion after speaking to the man - might have implied that after gaining more evidence but glad you clarified.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2017, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: referee on September 27, 2017, 05:11:53 PM
Apparently Delagry the gobshite thought he  was going to be in the u20 set up if JMK had ever got Sen job,that's the word in the SW-CJ for Captain 😜

Thanks for that. As sensible as other refs on the board  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2017, 08:39:36 PM
Some craic on here. Did I see those lilywhite legs of yours referee on the pitch at Healy Park last Friday, referee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 28, 2017, 08:55:09 AM
JC would be a great addition alright, but that's a load of bull, no substance to it at all. Neither Carl Mc Cabe. So we just need to wait patiently to see the credentials of a credible backroom team that Lenny brings to the table. Maybe the sub committee that overseen the process, will enlighten us. In the meantime we will wait and see.....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 28, 2017, 09:03:19 AM
And then we can compare!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 28, 2017, 09:37:53 AM
They could not enlighten on the back room team on Monday night. Wait and see. All will come with a cost
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on September 28, 2017, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: referee on September 27, 2017, 05:11:53 PM
Apparently Delagry the gobshite thought he  was going to be in the u20 set up if JMK had ever got Sen job,that's the word in the SW-CJ for Captain 😜

will be interestin to see how Lenny approaches the CJ predicament. An unreal talent but hasn't been in the greatest of physical conditioin recently, comes and goes without fully commitin and is constantly talking to the press. A top talent and still plenty to offer but must be tricky to manage. Time is not on his side anymore and needs to giv himself a shake.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2017, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: Usain on September 28, 2017, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: referee on September 27, 2017, 05:11:53 PM
Apparently Delagry the gobshite thought he  was going to be in the u20 set up if JMK had ever got Sen job,that's the word in the SW-CJ for Captain 😜

will be interestin to see how Lenny approaches the CJ predicament. An unreal talent but hasn't been in the greatest of physical conditioin recently, comes and goes without fully commitin and is constantly talking to the press. A top talent and still plenty to offer but must be tricky to manage. Time is not on his side anymore and needs to giv himself a shake.

Don't dare mention our players talking to the press!! And don't mention St Conor John!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 28, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
First member of the backroom team we know is Brendan Treanor, a Tyrone man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 28, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Rumour has it CJ is transferring to another club in a different county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 28, 2017, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 28, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Rumour has it CJ is transferring to another club in a different county

Drumragh??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 28, 2017, 10:23:40 PM
Arboe ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2017, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 28, 2017, 10:27:18 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 28, 2017, 10:23:40 PM
Arboe ??
Feckin hell. I thought St. Galls & Ardboe didn't have the best of relationships, going back years.
This will put a ripple in the lough.

I remember that match well! Fecking referee robbed us! Some crowd at it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2017, 07:57:30 AM
Quote from: referee on September 29, 2017, 07:33:49 AM
Any predictions Moneyglass v Dunloy,how strong will Dunloy go,they have been knocking on the door last year but may find as a club the hurling semi v S/Neil on the 8th oct more important !Very good football team when everyone available

Ermmmm ... .thats not how it works  :o. The manager picks what he believes is his best team from the players who've committed .... end of!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2017, 08:00:29 AM
Referee has relations in Dunloy, from a football background though. That right Ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2017, 08:06:46 AM
Even worse  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on September 29, 2017, 08:09:57 AM
Anyone hear Frank Dawson got the sack from Ballymartin during the week?
What club team in Down will take him next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
Quote from: referee on September 29, 2017, 07:33:49 AM
Any predictions Moneyglass v Dunloy,how strong will Dunloy go,they have been knocking on the door last year but may find as a club the hurling semi v S/Neil on the 8th oct more important !Very good football team when everyone available

full panel to pick from, all the hurling lads are available for tonight. Dominic and Gregory have a good working relationship with each other this past few years and whenever each panel has a game the lads are allowed to train with the footballers/hurlers and get rest to make sure they are not over used.

Works very well hence the success we are seeing in the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2017, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
Quote from: referee on September 29, 2017, 07:33:49 AM
Any predictions Moneyglass v Dunloy,how strong will Dunloy go,they have been knocking on the door last year but may find as a club the hurling semi v S/Neil on the 8th oct more important !Very good football team when everyone available

full panel to pick from, all the hurling lads are available for tonight. Dominic and Gregory have a good working relationship with each other this past few years and whenever each panel has a game the lads are allowed to train with the footballers/hurlers and get rest to make sure they are not over used.

Works very well hence the success we are seeing in the club.

Good to see, had to have that at the club when we had our run back in 2010, both got to Croker lads so nothing impossible, S'niel showed the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2017, 10:54:16 AM
Def MR2, if a club all pulls together then you can be successful at both codes. Football suffered badly at our club for a lot of years due to being over looked and quite honestly not being run right but now its well run from the underage to the seniors and we are seeing the fruits of that hard work.

Im confident that we can win tonight and get back into the final. Would love to see them win it as its more or less the same management and players who have lost the past 2 finals and they have all stuck together as a group.

fingers crossed for tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 10:54:16 AM
Def MR2, if a club all pulls together then you can be successful at both codes. Football suffered badly at our club for a lot of years due to being over looked and quite honestly not being run right but now its well run from the underage to the seniors and we are seeing the fruits of that hard work.

Im confident that we can win tonight and get back into the final. Would love to see them win it as its more or less the same management and players who have lost the past 2 finals and they have all stuck together as a group.

fingers crossed for tonight

Good luck, and if managed right having fit players in both codes isnt a bad thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 29, 2017, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.

What club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.

Heard same stuff but more a case of who got it rather than who didn't.  Mentioned this before, whether rightly or wrongly, a lot of players see Lenny as a continuation of the same old establishment system and some players don't want to engage in the amateurish set up that it has been in recent times.  There's a lot of training hours, travelling, sacrifices etc to be made and if they believe its 'as before' then they wont want to go through it all again.  Its the risk the Antrim board have taken on.

Lenny needs to sell them that he is genuinely a breath of fresh air, with new ideas, methods and mannerisms. 

If he cant, and if you want positives, then at least all those who commit themselves this year will indeed be just that - committed to the cause.  We don't really need any doubters / dissenters in that squad.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 29, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.

Heard same stuff but more a case of who got it rather than who didn't.  Mentioned this before, whether rightly or wrongly, a lot of players see Lenny as a continuation of the same old establishment system and some players don't want to engage in the amateurish set up that it has been in recent times.  There's a lot of training hours, travelling, sacrifices etc to be made and if they believe its 'as before' then they wont want to go through it all again.  Its the risk the Antrim board have taken on.

Lenny needs to sell them that he is genuinely a breath of fresh air, with new ideas, methods and mannerisms. 

If he cant, and if you want positives, then at least all those who commit themselves this year will indeed be just that - committed to the cause.  We don't really need any doubters / dissenters in that squad.

You could apply the same sentiment regardless of whoever got the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 10:54:16 AM
Def MR2, if a club all pulls together then you can be successful at both codes. Football suffered badly at our club for a lot of years due to being over looked and quite honestly not being run right but now its well run from the underage to the seniors and we are seeing the fruits of that hard work.

Im confident that we can win tonight and get back into the final. Would love to see them win it as its more or less the same management and players who have lost the past 2 finals and they have all stuck together as a group.

fingers crossed for tonight

It would be quite an achievement and I think it always relects well on the health of the GAA when both codes are successful.  God knows Dunloy have had talented Dual players and the I always wondered what the landscape of Antrim football would have been like if that nineties Dunloy side had concentrated on the football rather than the hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:30:19 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 29, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.

Heard same stuff but more a case of who got it rather than who didn't.  Mentioned this before, whether rightly or wrongly, a lot of players see Lenny as a continuation of the same old establishment system and some players don't want to engage in the amateurish set up that it has been in recent times.  There's a lot of training hours, travelling, sacrifices etc to be made and if they believe its 'as before' then they wont want to go through it all again.  Its the risk the Antrim board have taken on.

Lenny needs to sell them that he is genuinely a breath of fresh air, with new ideas, methods and mannerisms. 

If he cant, and if you want positives, then at least all those who commit themselves this year will indeed be just that - committed to the cause.  We don't really need any doubters / dissenters in that squad.

You could apply the same sentiment regardless of whoever got the job.

TBH I don't think you can. McKeever  marginally but simply because he was an Ex-Antrim player. He isn't from one of the big West Belfast clubs, and is a young and hungry manager. O'Rourke certainly not on any level.  Lenny ticks all the boxes that a lot of past mangers possessed - age group, location and club.   

Lenny needs to show us he is a fresh broom.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2017, 11:41:17 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 10:54:16 AM
Def MR2, if a club all pulls together then you can be successful at both codes. Football suffered badly at our club for a lot of years due to being over looked and quite honestly not being run right but now its well run from the underage to the seniors and we are seeing the fruits of that hard work.

Im confident that we can win tonight and get back into the final. Would love to see them win it as its more or less the same management and players who have lost the past 2 finals and they have all stuck together as a group.

fingers crossed for tonight

It would be quite an achievement and I think it always relects well on the health of the GAA when both codes are successful.  God knows Dunloy have had talented Dual players and the I always wondered what the landscape of Antrim football would have been like if that nineties Dunloy side had concentrated on the football rather than the hurling

yeah we were still a Div1 team then through that period and contested the senior championship. the most of them played football and hurling but the hurling was the big focus in the club due to the success we were having at it.

I rem us wining the hurling semi final in 1990 against Ballycastle and then narrowly losing to a good St Galls team in the semi final over in Rasharkin. We could of won that game that day and could of done a double that year but it wasn't to be.

Be nice to see them win it this year esp with the year were having in the club so far in terms of silverware for the football, hurling and camogie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 29, 2017, 12:14:05 PM
Is it true that CJ is following his heart to play "among the bushes".... will be missed..huge talent like his brother Kevin but......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2017, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.

Well it shows the actually level of commitment that player has, Zero
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2017, 03:27:41 PM
TBH Ref there are other things going on that I would be a lot more interested in lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 29, 2017, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: referee on September 29, 2017, 03:13:25 PM
Should be a good game,both teams hopefully full strength,could be Dunloys year, I've relations in Ballymena,Bushmills and Roslea  bannside if you want to know sham 🤡

Bushmills? Explains a whole lot sham.. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
any predictions for this week's football semi's and why???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on September 29, 2017, 06:00:38 PM
Creggan to win simply cause there better.cargin might struggle as they havent reached the levels yet of previous years.a chance 4 the johnnies.
Dunloy by 4 if there sobber after last week lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2017, 09:20:31 PM
Fair play Dunloy!! Great rollercoaster !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 29, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 29, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on September 29, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Lots of talk coming, that certain club players wont be involved with the county this year because of who didnt get the managers job. Anyone else hearing this talk, if its true what chance has lenny got.

Heard same stuff but more a case of who got it rather than who didn't.  Mentioned this before, whether rightly or wrongly, a lot of players see Lenny as a continuation of the same old establishment system and some players don't want to engage in the amateurish set up that it has been in recent times.  There's a lot of training hours, travelling, sacrifices etc to be made and if they believe its 'as before' then they wont want to go through it all again.  Its the risk the Antrim board have taken on.

Lenny needs to sell them that he is genuinely a breath of fresh air, with new ideas, methods and mannerisms. 

If he cant, and if you want positives, then at least all those who commit themselves this year will indeed be just that - committed to the cause.  We don't really need any doubters / dissenters in that squad.

If that is the case the players involved obviously have an over inflated estimation of their own self worth. Seriously. Given the level they have or maybe have not performed at and thinking that a certain manager might not be good enough to lead them before he is even in the door Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2017, 09:59:14 PM
Toys out of pram stuff, then you'll hear ones saying that's ok cause the set up (3 days old) isn't what they wanted, but have the gall to grun about other players! Comedy show
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 29, 2017, 10:16:07 PM
Talk about getting your excuses in early if true. Not much wonder we are performing at the level we are if players and indeed 'supporters' are apparently giving up in the womb.

In truth I suspect there are many who are prepared to weight right in behind the regime and it is just the crying baby that is being heard here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2017, 10:16:57 PM
I have a fair old finger on the pulse MR2 and no one is having a pop at Lenny or doubting his credentials. He is worthy of being on the shortlist and for what it's worth I would ask any players sitting on the fence to give Lenny their backing.

The players in particular are seeking a professional set up and a good backroom team, and are unsettled because there is a distinct lack of information about the latter. With respect I think they are entitled to both, and if this gets sorted out then it's all systems go. I'd be more worried about the players if they were happy to settle for anything less than that, plus its essential that they are on a level playing field in their preparation to play inter county football.

My own opinion is this is essential, particularly in light of an exceptionally strong backroom set up that was presented by JMK and presumably by AOR too.

So that's Lennys priority now that his club championship season is over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 29, 2017, 10:21:34 PM
Thats fair enough BS but why are people jumping to conclusions at this stage? Or is there more info that we are not hearing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2017, 10:45:03 PM
What conclusions exactly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 29, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
Its easy to criticize players when you havent been  modern county footballer and been exposed to the sheer level of commitment needed not to bluff but do it right.  Its easy to shout from the ditch 'do it for pride / the county' etc etc but if you went through it for a few years, didnt agree with the process and then hear the new manager is of the same criteria as the old you'd need to be  onvinced yourself.   

Thats Lennys biggest task.  Convincing the weary doubters. Antrim dont have the numbers of talent for him to be losing good men to apathy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2017, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 29, 2017, 10:16:57 PM
I have a fair old finger on the pulse MR2 and no one is having a pop at Lenny or doubting his credentials. He is worthy of being on the shortlist and for what it's worth I would ask any players sitting on the fence to give Lenny their backing.

The players in particular are seeking a professional set up and a good backroom team, and are unsettled because there is a distinct lack of information about the latter. With respect I think they are entitled to both, and if this gets sorted out then it's all systems go. I'd be more worried about the players if they were happy to settle for anything less than that, plus its essential that they are on a level playing field in their preparation to play inter county football.

My own opinion is this is essential, particularly in light of an exceptionally strong backroom set up that was presented by JMK and presumably by AOR too.

So that's Lennys priority now that his club championship season is over.

Not having a pop but think JMK would have a more professional approach based on what? A team in Derry getting beat in an All Ireland final? And O'Roukes main professional approach is what? Not getting why others  approach is better here? It sounds like hearsay at the minute to be honest or sour grapes... If Lenny is to make Antrim competitive then he needs everyone who claims they what antrim to be successful to work with him. Standing aside and hoping it falls apart it a rotten approach, should Any player no matter what club (mine included) do that needs to feck off and do one

You talked about preparation for county is essential, why wouldn't it be for all the candidates? Why would one be less of an approach to having the best prep?

This professional approach thing is all well and good (the pampered approach) but ya got up have balls, grit, determination, pride and a will to win.... waiting to see a back room team before committing or because a clubman hasn't got the job (think he's at least 5 years too early if I'm honest) is childish... county players (Antrim) in my view need to catch themselves on, it's not a democracy, manager appointed this is my plan this is how i want you to do it.. we stand and fall by our decisions.

We don't always get what we want in life, but I can't wait to hear the SW lads stick the knives into the management team when they head back to their clubs complaining about the poor food after training or how it wasn't salty enough, or their socks didn't fit!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 07:03:48 AM
MR2 this may sound like you are sticking up for Lenny and I am sticking up for John, because they are clubmen of our own.

But listen, the difference here is I could write a book about this, but that would only add fuel to the fire, and would be seen as attempting to undermine Lenny, which is strictly not true, and for that reason I won't go down that road.

So I will keep this really simple and point out that the main gripe that nearly ALL the players on the panel are having is that they know McKeevers backroom team, how credible they were, because they were top notch and top calibre, and that in contrast to a lack of anything remotely resembling this coming from Lennys camp has caused strong ripples of discontent amongst the squad.

Regarding a professional approach, knowhow, delivery etc I would expect Lenny to be competent, and I haven't heard anyone offering a different view. So be clear, no one is anti Lenny.

I think the majority of readers here will find this entirely logical, and back to my previous comment, if Lenny gets this important aspect sorted, then there is no excuse for any player who fails to commit.

What is this team in Derry getting beat in an All Ireland final thing about?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2017, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 07:03:48 AM
MR2 this may sound like you are sticking up for Lenny and I am sticking up for John, because they are clubmen of our own.

But listen, the difference here is I could write a book about this, but that would only add fuel to the fire, and would be seen as attempting to undermine Lenny, which is strictly not true, and for that reason I won't go down that road.

So I will keep this really simple and point out that the main gripe that nearly ALL the players on the panel are having is that they know McKeevers backroom team, how credible they were, because they were top notch and top calibre, and that in contrast to a lack of anything remotely resembling this coming from Lennys camp has caused strong ripples of discontent amongst the squad.

Regarding a professional approach, knowhow, delivery etc I would expect Lenny to be competent, and I haven't heard anyone offering a different view. So be clear, no one is anti Lenny.

I think the majority of readers here will find this entirely logical, and back to my previous comment, if Lenny gets this important aspect sorted, then there is no excuse for any player who fails to commit.

What is this team in Derry getting beat in an All Ireland final thing about?

BS from time to time you do post some sh!te but that post is hard for anybody to argue with. The triumphalism of some posters on here is embarrassing. Our players aren't stupid & they'll know through time if the set up is decent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:10:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 07:03:48 AM
MR2 this may sound like you are sticking up for Lenny and I am sticking up for John, because they are clubmen of our own.

But listen, the difference here is I could write a book about this, but that would only add fuel to the fire, and would be seen as attempting to undermine Lenny, which is strictly not true, and for that reason I won't go down that road.

So I will keep this really simple and point out that the main gripe that nearly ALL the players on the panel are having is that they know McKeevers backroom team, how credible they were, because they were top notch and top calibre, and that in contrast to a lack of anything remotely resembling this coming from Lennys camp has caused strong ripples of discontent amongst the squad.

Regarding a professional approach, knowhow, delivery etc I would expect Lenny to be competent, and I haven't heard anyone offering a different view. So be clear, no one is anti Lenny.

I think the majority of readers here will find this entirely logical, and back to my previous comment, if Lenny gets this important aspect sorted, then there is no excuse for any player who fails to commit.

What is this team in Derry getting beat in an All Ireland final thing about?

Derry teams get to Croke park more often than Antrim teams, better club players in Derry than Antrim also.. my point is simple, taking a Antrim club team to Croke park never mind winning Ulster titles but to win an All Ireland title is something the other lad hasnt managed! He could be a wonderful lad and I remember him playing against us many a time, so I'm not knocking him just asking

Who was this backroom team anyways ? And why are his more credible and Lennys not? Like I said earlier it's a lot of hearsay without the facts..

. I managed our seniors to Croke park albeit at intermediate level and were beat convincingly on he night, I know that the backroom team I had was just right, great coach who arranged all the drills and training sessions, id a trusted assistant, which I played on the team with for many years and was his assistant when he was a manager, also we'd other lads that came in at various points of the year that assisted us, so I get how important a backroom team is I understand that getting the balance is important and how getting the respect of the players is crucial...

So my point is let's see, stop this sniping from the sides, clubman or not I said it when Fitzy and Adams took over, the same snipers giving it then .. I've had plenty issues with the county over the years and voiced not just here but through my club, so if I've a gripe I'll post it, like yourself I don't hide behind an alias as such, anything I say here I've no problem saying it personally
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:19:01 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2017, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 07:03:48 AM
MR2 this may sound like you are sticking up for Lenny and I am sticking up for John, because they are clubmen of our own.

But listen, the difference here is I could write a book about this, but that would only add fuel to the fire, and would be seen as attempting to undermine Lenny, which is strictly not true, and for that reason I won't go down that road.

So I will keep this really simple and point out that the main gripe that nearly ALL the players on the panel are having is that they know McKeevers backroom team, how credible they were, because they were top notch and top calibre, and that in contrast to a lack of anything remotely resembling this coming from Lennys camp has caused strong ripples of discontent amongst the squad.

Regarding a professional approach, knowhow, delivery etc I would expect Lenny to be competent, and I haven't heard anyone offering a different view. So be clear, no one is anti Lenny.

I think the majority of readers here will find this entirely logical, and back to my previous comment, if Lenny gets this important aspect sorted, then there is no excuse for any player who fails to commit.

What is this team in Derry getting beat in an All Ireland final thing about?

BS from time to time you do post some sh!te but that post is hard for anybody to argue with. The triumphalism of some posters on here is embarrassing. Our players aren't stupid & they'll know through time if the set up is decent.

What posters are being that? And players aren't stupid? another great observation.. again plenty negative stuff and sour grapes for some reason... while nothing is won or achieved by anything written on here it does give you an insight to people's views and stance... for the record I don't care if the manager of either our senior teams are from Antrim Down Derry or Kerry for that matter, as long as the players, cause it seems they aren't getting any flack here at all and they are the ones on the pitch, put the effort in, instead of gurning to others for their points to be put on here a public forum, no different to the Irish news by the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 08:32:31 AM
MR, now come on. You're asking me to put Johns backroom team out there? I'm only after giving you the exact reason why it mightnt be in some people's best interest if I did that.

"To win an All - Ireland title is something the other lad hasn't managed"  is a comment that is grossly untrue and comes across as a condescending response to some wee fella from the country sticks. You see thats thd exact kind of this king that grates the hundreds of football people in the SW.

For you information, at the age of 33 John managed Fr Rocks in Cookstown to win Tyrone Ulster and All Ireland intermediate title.

For God's sake keep up, please.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 30, 2017, 08:33:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 29, 2017, 10:45:03 PM
What conclusions exactly?

People here and saying cheap option, same old failings, players will not play etc. Personally I wpuld like to see everyone start on a clean slate and judge as we go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 30, 2017, 08:43:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2017, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 07:03:48 AM
MR2 this may sound like you are sticking up for Lenny and I am sticking up for John, because they are clubmen of our own.

But listen, the difference here is I could write a book about this, but that would only add fuel to the fire, and would be seen as attempting to undermine Lenny, which is strictly not true, and for that reason I won't go down that road.

So I will keep this really simple and point out that the main gripe that nearly ALL the players on the panel are having is that they know McKeevers backroom team, how credible they were, because they were top notch and top calibre, and that in contrast to a lack of anything remotely resembling this coming from Lennys camp has caused strong ripples of discontent amongst the squad.

Regarding a professional approach, knowhow, delivery etc I would expect Lenny to be competent, and I haven't heard anyone offering a different view. So be clear, no one is anti Lenny.

I think the majority of readers here will find this entirely logical, and back to my previous comment, if Lenny gets this important aspect sorted, then there is no excuse for any player who fails to commit.

What is this team in Derry getting beat in an All Ireland final thing about?

BS from time to time you do post some sh!te but that post is hard for anybody to argue with. The triumphalism of some posters on here is embarrassing. Our players aren't stupid & they'll know through time if the set up is decent.

More a general question but where does pandering get you? Have you worked in a situation before where the tail wags the dog and if so what was the level of success?

I am not saying we should not aim to have the best facilities, backroom setup etc but I am wary of players apparetnly showing apathy before all detail is in place at the very least.

If you had ever worked with todays generation of footballers you would know that some are too quick to find excuses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:49:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 08:32:31 AM
MR, now come on. You're asking me to put Johns backroom team out there? I'm only after giving you the exact reason why it mightnt be in some people's best interest if I did that.

"To win an All - Ireland title is something the other lad hasn't managed"  is a comment that is grossly untrue and comes across as a condescending response to some wee fella from the country sticks. You see thats thd exact kind of this king that grates the hundreds of football people in the SW.

For you information, at the age of 33 John managed Fr Rocks in Cookstown to win Tyrone Ulster and All Ireland intermediate title.

For God's sake keep up, please.

Im talking Antrim and I'm talking senior... you keep up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 30, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
I hope JMK maintains an ambition to manage Antrim. While no doubt he would have had a vision to get is moving fast perhaps the timing might be much better a few years down the line. There is still a fair bit of sorting out to be done from top to bottom at this stage so maybe the best time for him to walk in will be when things are at a good level and he can take them even higher. I certainly do not doubt his pedigree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:58:57 AM
How'd his Antrim club team management go? Had he had any involvement with his own club ? Or is it just with other counties clubs that are willing to pay?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 30, 2017, 09:14:38 AM
MR2 I would be of the impression that he is very much motivated by ambition rather than money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 30, 2017, 09:18:53 AM
If memory serves me right he took his own club once injury vut his playing career short. He managed against my own club a few years ago.

Wonder if any of the 2 other candidates had reps at Dunsilly hotel on Monday night at 7pm like Bannside was? A non elected rep on County Exec??? But did not attemd county comm meeting? All v v strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 10:04:08 AM
A non elected rep on county executive??? This is hilarious.

MR2, John did manage his club, coming in the year after myself, to replace a duo who had lost the first five games, and got us to a promotion situation which we declined in favour of staying down for a year as the club was in transition.

It comes across a bit like you are trying to discredit him in some way, that that might give Lenny some advantage. Can we not just agree that they are both good candidates without going down that road. I mean Lenny has the gig. No one is disputing that at this stage....even John will wish Lenny all the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 11:05:23 AM
I'm not discrediting anyone nor did I come on complaining about candidates putting their names forward, I also didn't complain about the selection process or discredit it...I haven't even discredited the candidates I merely asked about the amazing backroom team and professional set up that was involved, seems now we'll never know.. you on the other hand seem very annoyed it didn't go your way, I get that clubman you know his strengths and so forth but all this seems to me like sour grapes and others claiming all (was the word used) he panel will be disappointed cause Lenny is the manager and players threatening to not play!

So I'm confused as to where this notion of me running the man down came from, I'm merely asking his background, especially with Antrim players as that's what we have got to play with, not Derry or Tyrone club teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2017, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:58:57 AM
How'd his Antrim club team management go? Had he had any involvement with his own club ? Or is it just with other counties clubs that are willing to pay?

The last question is clearly a dig. No?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 11:11:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2017, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:58:57 AM
How'd his Antrim club team management go? Had he had any involvement with his own club ? Or is it just with other counties clubs that are willing to pay?

The last question is clearly a dig. No?

A dig at getting paid? I'd expect most clubs to pay travel expenses when you are coming from another county 3 times a week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2017, 11:14:27 AM
Why the reference to "other counties" in the question then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 30, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
This is a disaster! Antrim will never change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 11:23:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2017, 11:14:27 AM
Why the reference to "other counties" in the question then?

There are managers who do the circuits (certainly I've seen ones from my own club do it) going from club to club gaining experience and a few pound along the way I've always had a view on it, be hard to resist an extra wage to look after a team,
I wouldn't say he's a mercenary as Hetic had pointed he's doing cause he loves it... it's just if i had a successful manager like him with his backroom team at my club I'd be chomping at the bit to get him to manage his own club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2017, 11:30:35 AM
i think i had my fingers crossed for the entire game last night. I would say Moneyglass will be kicking themselves after that second half as they started really well and had us pinned back big time, our passing up front was bad for a long period but that being said we got the scores when they counted and got over the line.

2 finals in a row is a great achievement when you consider we were in Div 3 when the current management took over.

the minors are in the B semi final on Sunday so it would be great for the club to keep the success going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
I said ALL players want to see a strong backroom team. Yes that's correct. That's NOT to be mixed up with all players are anti Lenny. Please separate this in your thought process.

YES, the vast majority of SW based players of county standard wanted John. A really strong SW candidate and bringing a very strong backroom team. Aware that SW teams cleaned up all the championships last year. Aware that the SW NEVER HAD A SENIOR MANAGER didnt help things either. Now that John didn't get the job, players are wanting to see that calibre matched in Lennys backroom staff. That's all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 11:58:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
I said ALL players want to see a strong backroom team. Yes that's correct. That's NOT to be mixed up with all players are anti Lenny. Please separate this in your thought process.

YES, the vast majority of SW based players of county standard wanted John. A really strong SW candidate and bringing a very strong backroom team. Aware that SW teams cleaned up all the championships last year. Aware that the SW NEVER HAD A SENIOR MANAGER didnt help things either. Now that John didn't get the job, players are wanting to see that calibre matched in Lennys backroom staff. That's all.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, I'm sure to a lot of people's disappointment that hasn't happened this year, with Sarsfields screwing that up, Cargin are a shoe in for the senior and the intermediate could go either way..

the team is made up of Antrim men not SW men last time I looked, the selection process that happened before isn't what happened this time round, been chairman from the SW for a long time so wasn't like he'd have favoured Belfast men... the SW paranoia is in overdrive at the minute and you are hell bent on backroom teams and yet to say what John's was?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 12:00:19 PM
Yea DR good game last night. Nothing between the teams and went right to the wire. Looking forward to the senior semis today and tomorrow, all four teams making quietly confident noises, so all to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 12:09:30 PM
Trust me MR2 on two counts. 1.Johns backroom team was top top class. 2. It won't be in the overall best interest to go into that detail here, and that's the third time I have alluded to this.

I remain a proud Antrim man, despite having a disappointing week, and don't plan to put added pressure on a situation which can hopefully be resolved if/when the details of Lennys backroom team is finally announced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
Well why bring it up? One post, disappointed John never got it and move on! Either of the candidates would have made a difference based on our last run of results... as it stands a lot of negative crap comes out, mainly by faceless posters who'll gladly hide behind the computer and complain...

As for today if Cargin keep their nerve and discipline (which has been excellent) they'll come through handy enough, other game be a lot tighter ... Lamhs by a point... two SW referees to to keep everyone happy ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2017, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 30, 2017, 11:30:35 AM
i think i had my fingers crossed for the entire game last night. I would say Moneyglass will be kicking themselves after that second half as they started really well and had us pinned back big time, our passing up front was bad for a long period but that being said we got the scores when they counted and got over the line.

2 finals in a row is a great achievement when you consider we were in Div 3 when the current management took over.

the minors are in the B semi final on Sunday so it would be great for the club to keep the success going

Good win for you. Sounded like a tight one.

To be fair dunloy have always had very good footballers just found it hard combining the dual aspect. You mentioned a game against st galls in the 90s - i also remember one against cargin you were close enough in and could maybe have won a championship had you won it.

That final will be interesting. Greg blaney's son seems to be a good one and a young finnegan or maybe two are pretty good too so will be a tough game for you but wouldn't be surprised if you win either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2017, 01:12:26 PM
yeah they are a good team. we played well against them up in the league and were up at half time only for them to pin us back pretty well for the game to finish a draw.

There was no injuries to report so thankfully it leaves us clear for next weekend against Sneill in the hurling. its going to take a big effort to finally win this intermediate championship, cannot deal with 3 finals in a row losing - boke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 02:24:17 PM
Would be a most significant acquisition if true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 05:25:51 PM
Good win for Lamhs, have seen them a lot this season having gone a few of their games, fancied them ... they will give whoever wins the other all they want... different approach this time round, SW teams obviously still devastated at the news  ;)

I'm joking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
No one at the match? I was ref'ing in Portaferry so couldn't make it... seems from the Antrim twitter they were in control the whole way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2017, 08:34:08 PM
Couldn't make it was working. Got home for the minor champion ship semi final where an impressive Aghagallon beat Ballymena. Straight afterwards, and still going strong under the best floodlights in the county, and possibly the best pitch too, is an 8 team underage blitz from three counties. Really impressive sight and what else would you be doing on a Saturday night in the country.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:37:36 PM
Seen some photos there now and impressive it is, also seen photos of Glenavy, pitch looked immaculate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 30, 2017, 08:34:08 PM
Couldn't make it was working. Got home for the minor champion ship semi final where an impressive Aghagallon beat Ballymena. Straight afterwards, and still going strong under the best floodlights in the county, and possibly the best pitch too, is an 8 team underage blitz from three counties. Really impressive sight and what else would you be doing on a Saturday night in the country.

County website has wrong result up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2017, 11:44:45 PM
A few posts ago football in Belfast was dead. Now a minor championship in the bag and looks like ld will give the senior a real shot. Is there a sw crisis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2017, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2017, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2017, 11:44:45 PM
A few posts ago football in Belfast was dead. Now a minor championship in the bag and looks like ld will give the senior a real shot. Is there a sw crisis?
Minor championship in the bag? No, and nothing like it.

He probably means Junior.... just whisper it though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2017, 12:35:12 AM
Having read over the last few pages lads it's obvious the way this county is
For anyone who doesn' know me I'm a bellaghy man now  living in Antrim ( moneyglass ) and played in Antrim football ( portglenone )
The city / country divide would put Celtic  / rangers to Shame
Until that's sorted it wouldn't matter if diarmuid Connelly Paul mannion or James McCarthy lived in Antrim ( and Jim Gavin ) you would win f**k all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2017, 12:50:02 AM
I ain't biting ye McCooey hoor I ain't biting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 08:08:13 AM
Glad to see the internet is back up and running in the SW, thought it would be out till at least 4.30pm today or if the Johnnies win it wouldn't be on till the first NFL match...

All joking aside I never knew there was a SW city divide .. those north Antrim hoors always had issues but the SW just did what they were told  :P I jest of course

Few things that stand out is the fact there hasn't been a SW manager, that's criminal, though I'd like to hear the history of appointments, how many from the SW actually applied for the job, yes Cargin are the only senior team to win the championship in recent years (not always with a clubman) but how many have applied from their club for the position.... either way there are plenty candidates about Madden and McKeever being two of the standouts...

Let's see how Antrim fair with Lenny who I believe lived out in the SW for a while (I stand to be corrected)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 01, 2017, 08:52:42 AM
I disagree JMK is too young...theres an appetite for younger managers with a finger on the pulse re all to include S and C etc

As BS said the appointment of Lenny does same to be a bit samey although i hope to god its not.

I think the appointment of the younger man wouldve been exciting for us supporters and the players. That St Galls team really managed themselves, they were that good and should have won more than the one AI, they had the talent. Due to that people will be sceptical of Lenny...its not as if he brought some no hopers to a title through shear tactical nous. Im not being disrespectful, its just somethibg many have shared

But Lenny is a good fella who you couldn't say a bad word about  him, his appointment is underwhelming (and we are totally in the dark about backroom team) but i wish him well and would absolutely love if he leads us out of the wilderness to some sort of success as we have massive numbers of supporters waiting to for a team worthy of support  (id go to away div 4 games though as i supoort no matter what) and that proof is the nunbers we had in 09
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 01, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
After last years sw championship whitewash, who would put money on all the silverware residing in the city this year? Certainly looks like a very good chance of this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 01, 2017, 09:38:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2017, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2017, 11:44:45 PM
A few posts ago football in Belfast was dead. Now a minor championship in the bag and looks like ld will give the senior a real shot. Is there a sw crisis?
Minor championship in the bag? No, and nothing like it.
[/quote

Did rossa not beat a highly rated creggan team in minor final? Fe creggan lads had mcccory winners experience from what I remember earlier in year. Rossa been up and  coming last few years. Think they won u21s too. Hopefully they can carry it through to senior and county. Plenty of young talent in city it seems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2017, 09:55:03 AM
They beat a Creggan team who won the league but now face Aghagallon who also finished above them in the league. There is very little separating about 8 teams at minor this year. Nothing easy.

Impressive score from Aghagallon last night... would that have been that decent under 14 team from Ballymena a few years ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2017, 10:07:10 AM
No thats next year MR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 01, 2017, 10:07:10 AM
No thats next year MR

They were pretty decent, all big lads too, though every team fill out when they hit minor ..

Yes Hardstation your lads were good, remember them stuffing our lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 01, 2017, 10:41:01 AM
Mr2 has madden and mckeever both not applied for the position b4?r u really trying to take the piss?
Why would either of them lads bother goin through the process again to b embrassed again.
Lenny would need to b fuckin brilliant after some of the shit u lads put on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 10:51:52 AM
Quote from: Galer on October 01, 2017, 10:41:01 AM
Mr2 has madden and mckeever both not applied for the position b4?r u really trying to take the piss?
Why would either of them lads bother goin through the process again to b embrassed again.
Lenny would need to b fuckin brilliant after some of the shit u lads put on here.

Read back ya numpty, I've put nothing on about how good Lenny will be, I'm merely asking why you SW lot are so paranoid ?

Your prediction for yesterday's game was off the mark
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 01, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
2/3 isnt bad.
U said it yourself us boys in the south west just roll over and look how that has worked for us in the last 30 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 01, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Underwhelming appointment and no public notice of backroom staff. Is LH perhaps scrambling around trying to find appeasement candidates as the SW apathy has kicked in? 

If rumours are true he approached KM as a SW compromise then hes more out of touch than expected.

Re todays match, that weather looks like a leveller on hannahstown hill. If the Johnnies thought they have even a slim chance then today is the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: Galer on October 01, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
2/3 isnt bad.
U said it yourself us boys in the south west just roll over and look how that has worked for us in the last 30 years.

We talking club championships you rolled over or management at county level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 01, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Underwhelming appointment and no public notice of backroom staff. Is LH perhaps scrambling around trying to find appeasement candidates as the SW apathy has kicked in? 

If rumours are true he approached KM as a SW compromise then hes more out of touch than expected.

Re todays match, that weather looks like a leveller on hannahstown hill. If the Johnnies thought they have even a slim chance then today is the day.

To be sunny today at 3pm so weather wise it will be grand for the supporters at least... Cargin will probably try and blow the Johnnies away early... Cargin at full compliment today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 01, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 01, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Underwhelming appointment and no public notice of backroom staff. Is LH perhaps scrambling around trying to find appeasement candidates as the SW apathy has kicked in? 

If rumours are true he approached KM as a SW compromise then hes more out of touch than expected.

Re todays match, that weather looks like a leveller on hannahstown hill. If the Johnnies thought they have even a slim chance then today is the day.

To be sunny today at 3pm so weather wise it will be grand for the supporters at least... Cargin will probably try and blow the Johnnies away early... Cargin at full compliment today?

Id be surprised if they are. they normally have somone out. Cant remember them having a full.contingent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
That's a good u -21 team you have again Hardstation. Just watched you there on our new pitch. Will take some beating.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2017, 01:49:31 PM
Lads there is one thing we must all do and that's get fully behind Lenny without any obstruction. The manager debate is over. Challenge for his support group (Alec, Ciaran and Mackers) is to ensure Lenny gets the backroom team he needs, and that when the players are there a few weeks they will report back on a professional set up.

Nothing else will do. As far as I'm concerned that's their job and in time, that's how this episode will be judged. No hiding places at this level and in my book, no friends, no compromise. Time for Antrim Football to step up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 01, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 01, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
That's a good u -21 team you have again Hardstation. Just watched you there on our new pitch. Will take some beating.

All Rossa men this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2017, 01:56:36 PM
Couldn't say Jim, dont know most of their named, but usual suspects going well Murphy, Walsh, Connelly etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 01, 2017, 01:43:10 PM
That's a good u -21 team you have again Hardstation. Just watched you there on our new pitch. Will take some beating.

All Rossa men this year?

Excuses in early?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2017, 05:21:55 PM
Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 05:33:25 PM
Nearly a SW crisis!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2017, 06:39:47 PM
You would have heard the cheers the whole way down the M2 !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2017, 06:39:47 PM
You would have heard the cheers the whole way down the M2 !!

Seemed very muted on the way home on the M2, the Johnnies must have thought they had won that game but discipline (on both teams) lost the chance to get to the final.. Johnnies very defensive but economic when  on the ball... what for me helped Cargin was Scullion, when he came on ran at the Johnnies created chances or frees, Cargin managed to claw it back... good aul brawl at the end though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 01, 2017, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2017, 06:39:47 PM
You would have heard the cheers the whole way down the M2 !!

Seemed very muted on the way home on the M2, the Johnnies must have thought they had won that game but discipline (on both teams) lost the chance to get to the final.. Johnnies very defensive but economic when  on the ball... what for me helped Cargin was Scullion, when he came on ran at the Johnnies created chances or frees, Cargin managed to claw it back... good aul brawl at the end though
What brawl MR2......missed that.... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 08:43:47 PM
Well the reply should be up the country.... or is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on October 01, 2017, 09:18:54 PM
Cargin were very poor - st johns deserved to win but great comeback to get the draw.

Replay will be in Ahoghill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on October 01, 2017, 09:18:54 PM
Cargin were very poor - st johns deserved to win but great comeback to get the draw.

Replay will be in Ahoghill

Hopefully the internet will be up and running then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 01, 2017, 09:54:27 PM
St Johns were far better and might have missed their opportunity

Couldn't believe how average Creggan were against LD - Madden's pay packet must be hanging by a thread now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 01, 2017, 11:51:47 PM
What date is replay?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 02, 2017, 07:46:20 AM
Dunloy 2-11 1-13 Moneyglass

There was a few questions going into this game regarding the dual players and their commitment after winning the antrim hurling title on sunday but I think anyone who was in Ahoghill Friday night can safely say the 2 most committed men on the pitch were woody and nigel in the green and gold and the other 6 players who contested finals the previous Sunday were all superb as were the rest of the team. No more so evident that in the 3rd minute of stoppage when woody put over a free from near the side line to send us through. That's the 3rd final in a row. Maybe this time we bring it home  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
fingers crossed they do this time. was at the game myself and it was a good match to watch. i thought we dug in pretty well towards the end of the game when Moneyglass really pushed at us with the wind at their back.

went to the minor B semi final yday. a real miss match and i think this final could be the same. Aldergrove lost to Glenravel in the league and we took them apart fairly easily yday. a silly decision to have us in that competition by our club but going by how they that group fared at U16 they got destroyed in every game they played in. hindsight and all that i suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 02, 2017, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on October 01, 2017, 09:18:54 PM
Cargin were very poor - st johns deserved to win but great comeback to get the draw.

Replay will be in Ahoghill

or creggan perhaps ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 02, 2017, 10:01:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
fingers crossed they do this time. was at the game myself and it was a good match to watch. i thought we dug in pretty well towards the end of the game when Moneyglass really pushed at us with the wind at their back.

went to the minor B semi final yday. a real miss match and i think this final could be the same. Aldergrove lost to Glenravel in the league and we took them apart fairly easily yday. a silly decision to have us in that competition by our club but going by how they that group fared at U16 they got destroyed in every game they played in. hindsight and all that i suppose.

Excellent game for the neutral friday night. I was seriously impressed with Dunloys hunger to win and it went to prove those lads care as much about winning with the big ball as the small. It was harsh on Moneyglass, I felt neither side deserved to lose on the night, but no doubt what looked a seriously young m'glass outfit will be knocking on the door again next year.
Gutted for the johnnies yesterday, had a massive chance to shake off cargin but by the looks of things theyll be more than equipped to do the job next day out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
A few of the St Johns faithful complaining on Twitter about the ref yesterday, including a St Johns ref.. Was he that poor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
A few of the St Johns faithful complaining on Twitter about the ref yesterday, including a St Johns ref.. Was he that poor?

Was a difficult game to referee to be honest, certainly a game I'd not have been looking forward to do, I think most things were caught, some calls i can see why the Johnnies may complain but some calls they were lucky with as well, near the end I thought a Cargin man was brought down and it would have won it for Cargin but he played on... Lots of off the ball stuff and the lines men and umpires were helping as much as they could and taking some abuse from both coaches/mentors water men subs!!  on both sides, The first 2 sending off's there could be no complaints in my book, both very foolish and not needed, the last one I didnt see that well as there was a mass of lads involved..

Surprised you were not at it, you could have asked Lenny about his plans for the future, though based on that performance by both teams yesterday we are doomed I tell ya
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2017, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
A few of the St Johns faithful complaining on Twitter about the ref yesterday, including a St Johns ref.. Was he that poor?

Was a difficult game to referee to be honest, certainly a game I'd not have been looking forward to do, I think most things were caught, some calls i can see why the Johnnies may complain but some calls they were lucky with as well, near the end I thought a Cargin man was brought down and it would have won it for Cargin but he played on... Lots of off the ball stuff and the lines men and umpires were helping as much as they could and taking some abuse from both coaches/mentors water men subs!!  on both sides, The first 2 sending off's there could be no complaints in my book, both very foolish and not needed, the last one I didnt see that well as there was a mass of lads involved..

Surprised you were not at it, you could have asked Lenny about his plans for the future, though based on that performance by both teams yesterday we are doomed I tell ya

Unfortunately my own club were out yesterday also so I went to that instead. I'll speak to Lenny in due course.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 02, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
Thought Paul Mc Keever did exceptionally well yesterday. If he missed one or two it was for both sides and he refused to be intimidated by anyone. Incidentally all five, the ref plus four umpires all sit on our club committee and all played a big role in our new pitch development too. Credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 02, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
Replay now fixed for Glenavy on Sunday at 4pm. Thought under lights during midweek would have been the better option myself but Glenavy is a good venue all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2017, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 02, 2017, 10:01:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
fingers crossed they do this time. was at the game myself and it was a good match to watch. i thought we dug in pretty well towards the end of the game when Moneyglass really pushed at us with the wind at their back.

went to the minor B semi final yday. a real miss match and i think this final could be the same. Aldergrove lost to Glenravel in the league and we took them apart fairly easily yday. a silly decision to have us in that competition by our club but going by how they that group fared at U16 they got destroyed in every game they played in. hindsight and all that i suppose.

Excellent game for the neutral friday night. I was seriously impressed with Dunloys hunger to win and it went to prove those lads care as much about winning with the big ball as the small. It was harsh on Moneyglass, I felt neither side deserved to lose on the night, but no doubt what looked a seriously young m'glass outfit will be knocking on the door again next year.
Gutted for the johnnies yesterday, had a massive chance to shake off cargin but by the looks of things theyll be more than equipped to do the job next day out.

Yeah it def was a good game to watch. to be fair either team could of won it towards the end. Have to say Moneyglass's goal was a peach. i was the right angle behind it as he hit it on the ground and it flew into the net like a bullet.

Impressed with young Deaglan Smyth in midfield whos still in minor for ourselves. he held his own throughout the game in there. we have a good crop come through from the minors last year so hopefully they can get over the line this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2017, 05:03:20 PM
St Brigid's who had a tougher draw than ourselves to get there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 02, 2017, 05:17:09 PM
On another note altogether, the 3 South Antrim U12 finals took place at O'Donnells pitch yesterday. Great morning of football, well organised and hosted and some great football played too. Credit where it is due, well done O'Donnells and South Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 02, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 02, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
Replay now fixed for Glenavy on Sunday at 4pm. Thought under lights during midweek would have been the better option myself but Glenavy is a good venue all the same
Ahoghill is too close to Toome.....reason enough  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2017, 06:20:15 PM
Quote from: ON THE HILL on October 02, 2017, 04:56:02 PM
who takes dunloy footballers

Dominic Dillon and Martin Doherty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 02, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 02, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
Replay now fixed for Glenavy on Sunday at 4pm. Thought under lights during midweek would have been the better option myself but Glenavy is a good venue all the same
Ahoghill is too close to Toome.....reason enough  :)

SW lads complaining about SW venues, sure flipping Lamhs is like a SW venue for flip sake!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 02, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Looking good. If only I was a betting man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 02, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Looking good. If only I was a betting man.

Nearly there, two teams to finish things off, I'd say the Dunloy game would be the toughest, but picking that (bar Cargin and Sarsfields  ;D ) you could set up your own tipster site!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 02, 2017, 07:45:51 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 02, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Looking good. If only I was a betting man.

You should have waited! Going to scud yourself now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 08:31:56 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 02, 2017, 05:17:09 PM
On another note altogether, the 3 South Antrim U12 finals took place at O'Donnells pitch yesterday. Great morning of football, well organised and hosted and some great football played too. Credit where it is due, well done O'Donnells and South Antrim.

Yes heard it was a great success, good to see us making some football gains!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 02, 2017, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 02, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 02, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
Replay now fixed for Glenavy on Sunday at 4pm. Thought under lights during midweek would have been the better option myself but Glenavy is a good venue all the same
Ahoghill is too close to Toome.....reason enough  :)

SW lads complaining about SW venues, sure flipping Lamhs is like a SW venue for flip sake!!

Glenavy venue must be to make up for last years pulled match... It's got very good turf, parking is not great, but is about halfway...

PS sure you have to leave the street lights to get to hannahstown, so it can't be a city club then

Pss can't believe the johnnies men aren't up in arms, they were very, very unlucky.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 02, 2017, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Jeez...this is a new record of some kind. Lenny has been in post less than a full day and already some people - Antrim supporters apparently - are prepared to write off his tenure as a failure. He deserves the support of us all, and all our clubs as he tried to turn around our fortunes. Best wishes to him and whatever backroom team he brings on board.

Well said.
Unfortunately Lenny will not get the support of all, many of the posters already would fit into a supporter category filed under N.  8)

I would like to think there will be a suitable setup for the squad - fit for purpose, no luxuries needed.
I'm happy to wait and see the full lineup once they have it organised, what's the rush ?

Ps fair play to frank and gearoid, men with integrity, had their shoulder to the wheel, will be an asset to any squad they join.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2017, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 02, 2017, 07:45:51 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 02, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 14, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
My predictions:

Cargin
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Looking good. If only I was a betting man.

You should have waited! Going to scud yourself now.

well thats it were done for now  :-\ lol the skud is on us again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 03, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Dunloy management

Anthony McQuillan is minor manager helps out. It's just the 3 of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 03, 2017, 06:48:40 PM
#lennyout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2017, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 03, 2017, 06:48:40 PM
#lennyout

Give the man a chance hi..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 04, 2017, 06:36:11 PM
Are the u17 and u20 jobs filled?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2017, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 04, 2017, 06:36:11 PM
Are the u17 and u20 jobs filled?
Bring ur own packed lunch....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 04, 2017, 10:38:56 PM
Anyone any wiser as to lennys backroom team. Hearing there will be trials for players wishing to join senior panel this year anyone else hearing this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2017, 11:21:24 PM
Jesus I know it's important to have a backroom team, good coach, great trainer even a nutritionist, but when did it become more important than the manager?

Do we pick a good manager, and trust his judgement on his backroom team, or are we happier to have a backroom team with an ok manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 04, 2017, 11:45:56 PM
Mr2 im totally happy with lennys appointment, i feel he had the best cv of all applicants. I am totally behind him and i feel he will do a good job if he gets the support of the players and off course the clubs and county board but his backroom team will be important as it will be a selling point to players committing. I just find it strange that we dont know who he has helping out. Surely if applying for the post and being interviewed he would have had to disclose this at the time. Alot has been made of other applicants backroom teams being of the highest calibre people so alot of people do see the backroom team as being very importan, which it is .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on October 04, 2017, 11:45:56 PM
Mr2 im totally happy with lennys appointment, i feel he had the best cv of all applicants. I am totally behind him and i feel he will do a good job if he gets the support of the players and off course the clubs and county board but his backroom team will be important as it will be a selling point to players committing. I just find it strange that we dont know who he has helping out. Surely if applying for the post and being interviewed he would have had to disclose this at the time. Alot has been made of other applicants backroom teams being of the highest calibre people so alot of people do see the backroom team as being very importan, which it is .

It is strange.......but this is antrim.

  Either he doesnt have one (which questions how he got the job in the first place) or he cant disclose until they have completed their commitments to other clubs (which is totally understandable).  What is certain is that with such an underwhelming choice as manager, his backroom staff needs to be a big sell.  Hopefully lenny will produce some credible names very shortly as most championship campaigns are over for clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on October 05, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on October 04, 2017, 11:45:56 PM
Mr2 im totally happy with lennys appointment, i feel he had the best cv of all applicants. I am totally behind him and i feel he will do a good job if he gets the support of the players and off course the clubs and county board but his backroom team will be important as it will be a selling point to players committing. I just find it strange that we dont know who he has helping out. Surely if applying for the post and being interviewed he would have had to disclose this at the time. Alot has been made of other applicants backroom teams being of the highest calibre people so alot of people do see the backroom team as being very importan, which it is .

It is strange.......but this is antrim.

  Either he doesnt have one (which questions how he got the job in the first place) or he cant disclose until they have completed their commitments to other clubs (which is totally understandable).  What is certain is that with such an underwhelming choice as manager, his backroom staff needs to be a big sell.  Hopefully lenny will produce some credible names very shortly as most championship campaigns are over for clubs

A tyrone man in with him as trainer I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2017, 09:53:40 AM

A tyrone man in with him as trainer I believe
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Seems to be the new 'go to' place for trainers these days. Armagh men dont serm to be in vogue as much any more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2017, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on October 04, 2017, 11:45:56 PM
Mr2 im totally happy with lennys appointment, i feel he had the best cv of all applicants. I am totally behind him and i feel he will do a good job if he gets the support of the players and off course the clubs and county board but his backroom team will be important as it will be a selling point to players committing. I just find it strange that we dont know who he has helping out. Surely if applying for the post and being interviewed he would have had to disclose this at the time. Alot has been made of other applicants backroom teams being of the highest calibre people so alot of people do see the backroom team as being very importan, which it is .

It is strange.......but this is antrim.

  Either he doesnt have one (which questions how he got the job in the first place) or he cant disclose until they have completed their commitments to other clubs (which is totally understandable).  What is certain is that with such an underwhelming choice as manager, his backroom staff needs to be a big sell.  Hopefully lenny will produce some credible names very shortly as most championship campaigns are over for clubs

You keep saying that you think Lenny is a nice guy and has had a good record as a manager but persist in using the word underwhelming....

So what should a manager bring to the table Spike? and spare me the backroom team for a second.... as you can have the best backroom team in the land but the players still need to turn up and have the right attitude and execute the plan.

still waiting on hearing who were the other backroom team for the other candidates, I'd be very disappointed if they turned out to be just a regular trainer and S&C 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 05, 2017, 10:32:40 AM
I think the whole Lenny and management discussion has been talked about until its nearly tedious at this stage, Lenny is in and we'll find out in due course who his backroom team is and we'll chew the fat again about it. I don't think it matters who JMK & AOR backroom teams were going to be, that doesn't matter now apart from cheap point scoring on this board.

The only way is up for us as a county with regards Football, is Lenny the man to take us forward? Time will tell.

Full grading round of Un21 fixtures this weekend, some crackers in store like St Endas V Creggan and Dunloy Vs Rossa likely the pick of the round. Also a the SFC semi replay, I think Cargin could just shade it this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 05, 2017, 11:03:40 AM
U21 Weekend

Our game with Rossa is off with senior hurling sunday and intermediate football final next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2017, 11:55:36 AM

You keep saying that you think Lenny is a nice guy and has had a good record as a manager but persist in using the word underwhelming....

So what should a manager bring to the table Spike? and spare me the backroom team for a second.... as you can have the best backroom team in the land but the players still need to turn up and have the right attitude and execute the plan.

still waiting on hearing who were the other backroom team for the other candidates, I'd be very disappointed if they turned out to be just a regular trainer and S&C
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Well his appointment is underwhelming unfortunately. And even more unfortunate is that a large swathe of players think so too so unless he can prove his staff are different from what went before, the players wont buy in or commit.  'Fool you once, same on me.  fool me twice....'

MR2, dont underestimate just how poorly this appointment has gone down butvwe are where we are. The sales pitch is lennys problem now.

Re semi final replay, would be surprised if Cargin dont respond to sundays match. Can they be that bad again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2017, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2017, 11:55:36 AM

You keep saying that you think Lenny is a nice guy and has had a good record as a manager but persist in using the word underwhelming....

So what should a manager bring to the table Spike? and spare me the backroom team for a second.... as you can have the best backroom team in the land but the players still need to turn up and have the right attitude and execute the plan.

still waiting on hearing who were the other backroom team for the other candidates, I'd be very disappointed if they turned out to be just a regular trainer and S&C

Well his appointment is underwhelming unfortunately. And even more unfortunate is that a large swathe of players think so too so unless he can prove his staff are different from what went before, the players wont buy in or commit.  'Fool you once, same on me.  fool me twice....'

MR2, dont underestimate just how poorly this appointment has gone down butvwe are where we are. The sales pitch is lennys problem now.

Re semi final replay, would be surprised if Cargin dont respond to sundays match. Can they be that bad again?
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Well we'll leave it at that, you'll hardly be at the games to support Antrim so wont be waiting on any match reports and the swathe of players not playing for Antrim now (based on your knowledge) will have a long 3 years to rest up and enjoy their club football..

As for the Johnnies Cargin game, Cargin would need to come out of the blocks a lot quicker, they had a strong enough wind in the first half but it didnt suit their play or the match ups.. The Johnnies just ran out of gas in the end and that may be the biggest factor going into this replay, also 2 main players missing for the Johnnies wont help as their bench isnt as strong as Cargins.

But should Cargin play the same it will be a close affair, they will need to workout how to beat the defensive system, and the Johnnies will need convert all their chances to get the win.. Should be another good crowd going as its further up the SW than Lamhs pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 05, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
So what are we saying should we have gathered all the players round and let them decide who should be appointed. Thats whats been wrong players want too much say and have to much influence, we need players to buy in to playing for their county having pride in the jersey and becoming role models for tbe younger development squad and club players to aspire too. We have none of that and in my opinion thats more important that the manager and the backroom team.
On that note last year Antrim senior players had access to Manager,coach, s&c coach, physios, player analysis, gps tracking  , food after training and always excellent hotel facilities for away matches so i really cant wait until i see a professional set up like the ones being talked about here, really cant see what else players could want for especially playing in div 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Yes a boxer taking gaa trainings sounds like a professional set up all right.

Players cant pick manager butits their choice whether to turn out or not. Antrim board has made their choice a straightforwars one.

Anyway, MR2, tend to agree with u re cargin game. Hard to tell if johnnies blew up or couldnt make the tactical response once Cargin changed theirs. Should be interesting though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 05, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Yes a boxer taking gaa trainings sounds like a professional set up all right.

Players cant pick manager butits their choice whether to turn out or not. Antrim board has made their choice a straightforwars one.

A straightforward choice, not to play, really? If any player chooses not to play simply based on their preferred manager of choice not getting the job, well, are they the guys we want playing for the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 05, 2017, 05:58:48 PM
Is Bernard Dunn not working with the Dublin team.
Dont forget Mick McGurn was in not too long ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2017, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on October 05, 2017, 05:58:48 PM
Is Bernard Dunn not working with the Dublin team.
Dont forget Mick McGurn was in not too long ago.

Some difference between antrim physiques and dublins so either we are genetically inferior in this part of Ireland or the wrong conditioning methods were used. No point of using mike for a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2017, 08:30:19 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 05, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Yes a boxer taking gaa trainings sounds like a professional set up all right.

Players cant pick manager butits their choice whether to turn out or not. Antrim board has made their choice a straightforwars one.

A straightforward choice, not to play, really? If any player chooses not to play simply based on their preferred manager of choice not getting the job, well, are they the guys we want playing for the county?


Thats the whole point - theyve been burned too many times b4 and anyway if they cant be convinced its better to have full commitment from those who turn up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 05, 2017, 08:40:38 PM
No point giving guys strength and conditioning if they havnt the other attributes to be a county footballer.
S&c needs to be part of their lifestyles from early age thats why we need a proper one for development squads. Antrim need a dull time s&c coach working with all antrim squads bringing new ones in every year or so means were starting all over again. Pretty pointless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 05, 2017, 09:37:06 PM
Peter Donnelly  available if  the vision move quickly .. a  snip at £40 000 per year !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 05, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
Well that would be a great investment £40,000 to look after all Antrims S&C with oppertunity to train up some Antrim players with an interest in the subject. Guys who could after a while and with his guidance take on development squads and even run workshops for clubs and coaches. Much better than footballers and hurlers u21 squads all paying different coaches when we could have a full time coach in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
40 grand to tell a student/player how to train and look after their body?? Am I missing something here? Stay off the drink eat healthy follow a strict training plan and weights programme, listen to the coach /manager on tactics ... you need to pay (at a snip) 40 grand!!!! I thought I'd a great job! If you'd three teams to look after that £120 grand a year job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 05, 2017, 10:36:13 PM
The contract would be exclusive to one county set up including all county squads   attendance at all  sessions. And matches.
Don't think you could do any more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on October 05, 2017, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
40 grand to tell a student/player how to train and look after their body?? Am I missing something here? Stay off the drink eat healthy follow a strict training plan and weights programme, listen to the coach /manager on tactics ... you need to pay (at a snip) 40 grand!!!! I thought I'd a great job! If you'd three teams to look after that £120 grand a year job

Yes you are missing something, it's called knowledge. You know what, I can't even be bothered trying to explain this to you🤡
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 05, 2017, 11:11:12 PM
It would be a county contract covering all Antrim squads mr2 so 40,000 isnt that bad a price to pay. S&C is alot more than telling players what to eat etc but as i say starting it at senior level is a waste of time, if we had a creditable coach who was making it part of our players development from a young age then  maybe we will get our players to level of those in the more successful counties, but it will still only be 1 piece of the jigsaw to make up our best county footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2017, 10:18:49 AM
I think you'll find a stark difference in opinion here for people that reckon players should doing this anyway and those who realise S&C is a lifestyle and the continuous search for education & improvement in their performance.

As in all walks of life, some people do the bare minimum to get by and others keep striving for constant improvement. 

Key point is we are starting at a low base here for the seniors so will take a proper focussed system. One winters training isn't going to cut it.  The underage for Antrim is now more key than ever that they get this training and education now to see results for the future. 

Fully get it that its a lot of money. Cant deny that, but Antrim can either continue down the road they are going and bumble back and forth from Div 4 for the foreseeable future, or we can seize the day and aim for loftier aspirations.    There is no quick fix to this.  Even if Lenny is the man some posters believe him to be, he will be hamstrung playing against the physiques and power of other squads who have already implemented this.

I make no bones about it, we need Countywide S&C system just to stand still in comparison to others and each year will be more difficult. Lenny needs it if he is to stand a chance of success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2017, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Yes a boxer taking gaa trainings sounds like a professional set up all right.

Players cant pick manager butits their choice whether to turn out or not. Antrim board has made their choice a straightforwars one.

Anyway, MR2, tend to agree with u re cargin game. Hard to tell if johnnies blew up or couldnt make the tactical response once Cargin changed theirs. Should be interesting though.

I'm assuming Magee was being paid as a trainer and then being paid for the use of his gym too ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 10:54:31 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=276621

Superb idea by Tipp. Possibly something for our lads to look at in the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on October 06, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I'm a Tyrone man now playing in your county. As for Peter Donnelly he is asking for 40k now but was on circa 30 last couple of years. He was taking S & C and fitness designed specifically for Gaelic and what gaelic players need for all Tyrone teams and also involved with the colleges and mentoring and training other younger coaches. He was also taking coaching courses for coaches throughout the clubs. Full time job and worth every penny if you ask me.

Attitude and Desire imo is a massive difference in your county from mine. In the city especially there seems to be an attitude of things should be given to you. I genuinely don't think the players are prepared to make the sacrifices required for the county. I saw some of your strength and conditioning carried out under mick mc gurn in an "open gym" in south Belfast a few years ago and they were awful. Boys dandering about posing in the mirror, hopping on an exercise bike and mc gurn dandering about having a natter. Me and a few other lads playing at home at the time couldn't believe it.

Maybe its a city country think I don't know but as someone said above you should be playing for your county and everything else should fall in to place around it. They are well looked after it appears boys are looking excuses to get out !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on October 06, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I'm a Tyrone man now playing in your county. As for Peter Donnelly he is asking for 40k now but was on circa 30 last couple of years. He was taking S & C and fitness designed specifically for Gaelic and what gaelic players need for all Tyrone teams and also involved with the colleges and mentoring and training other younger coaches. He was also taking coaching courses for coaches throughout the clubs. Full time job and worth every penny if you ask me.

Attitude and Desire imo is a massive difference in your county from mine. In the city especially there seems to be an attitude of things should be given to you. I genuinely don't think the players are prepared to make the sacrifices required for the county. I saw some of your strength and conditioning carried out under mick mc gurn in an "open gym" in south Belfast a few years ago and they were awful. Boys dandering about posing in the mirror, hopping on an exercise bike and mc gurn dandering about having a natter. Me and a few other lads playing at home at the time couldn't believe it.

Maybe its a city country think I don't know but as someone said above you should be playing for your county and everything else should fall in to place around it. They are well looked after it appears boys are looking excuses to get out !

Put on yer Tin hat and wait for the fall out of this post..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2017, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on October 06, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I'm a Tyrone man now playing in your county. As for Peter Donnelly he is asking for 40k now but was on circa 30 last couple of years. He was taking S & C and fitness designed specifically for Gaelic and what gaelic players need for all Tyrone teams and also involved with the colleges and mentoring and training other younger coaches. He was also taking coaching courses for coaches throughout the clubs. Full time job and worth every penny if you ask me.

Attitude and Desire imo is a massive difference in your county from mine. In the city especially there seems to be an attitude of things should be given to you. I genuinely don't think the players are prepared to make the sacrifices required for the county. I saw some of your strength and conditioning carried out under mick mc gurn in an "open gym" in south Belfast a few years ago and they were awful. Boys dandering about posing in the mirror, hopping on an exercise bike and mc gurn dandering about having a natter. Me and a few other lads playing at home at the time couldn't believe it.

Maybe its a city country think I don't know but as someone said above you should be playing for your county and everything else should fall in to place around it. They are well looked after it appears boys are looking excuses to get out !

Put on yer Tin hat and wait for the fall out of this post..

There is not one hope in hell the Antrim board will commission a £40k a year trainer. They secured the new manager for a new tracksuit and a packet of peanuts.  Fitsy only got the peanuts.   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 06, 2017, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on October 06, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I'm a Tyrone man now playing in your county. As for Peter Donnelly he is asking for 40k now but was on circa 30 last couple of years. He was taking S & C and fitness designed specifically for Gaelic and what gaelic players need for all Tyrone teams and also involved with the colleges and mentoring and training other younger coaches. He was also taking coaching courses for coaches throughout the clubs. Full time job and worth every penny if you ask me.

Attitude and Desire imo is a massive difference in your county from mine. In the city especially there seems to be an attitude of things should be given to you. I genuinely don't think the players are prepared to make the sacrifices required for the county. I saw some of your strength and conditioning carried out under mick mc gurn in an "open gym" in south Belfast a few years ago and they were awful. Boys dandering about posing in the mirror, hopping on an exercise bike and mc gurn dandering about having a natter. Me and a few other lads playing at home at the time couldn't believe it.

Maybe its a city country think I don't know but as someone said above you should be playing for your county and everything else should fall in to place around it. They are well looked after it appears boys are looking excuses to get out !

Put on yer Tin hat and wait for the fall out of this post..

There is not one hope in hell the Antrim board will commission a £40k a year trainer. They secured the new manager for a new tracksuit and a packet of peanuts.  Fitsy only got the peanuts.   ;)
And the big man was asked to pay for them.....
ffs a few in this forum suggested our minors should bring a packed lunch when on county duty..... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 06, 2017, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on October 06, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I'm a Tyrone man now playing in your county. As for Peter Donnelly he is asking for 40k now but was on circa 30 last couple of years. He was taking S & C and fitness designed specifically for Gaelic and what gaelic players need for all Tyrone teams and also involved with the colleges and mentoring and training other younger coaches. He was also taking coaching courses for coaches throughout the clubs. Full time job and worth every penny if you ask me.

Attitude and Desire imo is a massive difference in your county from mine. In the city especially there seems to be an attitude of things should be given to you. I genuinely don't think the players are prepared to make the sacrifices required for the county. I saw some of your strength and conditioning carried out under mick mc gurn in an "open gym" in south Belfast a few years ago and they were awful. Boys dandering about posing in the mirror, hopping on an exercise bike and mc gurn dandering about having a natter. Me and a few other lads playing at home at the time couldn't believe it.

Maybe its a city country think I don't know but as someone said above you should be playing for your county and everything else should fall in to place around it. They are well looked after it appears boys are looking excuses to get out !

Put on yer Tin hat and wait for the fall out of this post..

There is not one hope in hell the Antrim board will commission a £40k a year trainer. They secured the new manager for a new tracksuit and a packet of peanuts.  Fitsy only got the peanuts.   ;)
And the big man was asked to pay for them.....
ffs a few in this forum suggested our minors should bring a packed lunch when on county duty..... :)

Don't mention the packed lunch CB...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 02, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
Thought Paul Mc Keever did exceptionally well yesterday. If he missed one or two it was for both sides and he refused to be intimidated by anyone. Incidentally all five, the ref plus four umpires all sit on our club committee and all played a big role in our new pitch development too. Credit where it's due.
Seems ur man in the middle in this one did not please all BS...especially the CHC...... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 07:20:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 02, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
Thought Paul Mc Keever did exceptionally well yesterday. If he missed one or two it was for both sides and he refused to be intimidated by anyone. Incidentally all five, the ref plus four umpires all sit on our club committee and all played a big role in our new pitch development too. Credit where it's due.
Seems ur man in the middle in this one did not please all BS...especially the CHC...... ???

Who sits on the CHC? Surely this must be a frustrating part of refereeing, a player striking and gets off with it. What's the point of submitting the report in the first place, suppose depends who is on the committee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 07:20:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 02, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
Thought Paul Mc Keever did exceptionally well yesterday. If he missed one or two it was for both sides and he refused to be intimidated by anyone. Incidentally all five, the ref plus four umpires all sit on our club committee and all played a big role in our new pitch development too. Credit where it's due.
Seems ur man in the middle in this one did not please all BS...especially the CHC...... ???

Who sits on the CHC? Surely this must be a frustrating part of refereeing, a player striking and gets off with it. What's the point of submitting the report in the first place, suppose depends who is on the committee.

If ever an organisation needed questioned from the top down, its antrim football. Farcical stuff coming out of the referees board. McKeever must be very disappointed if the rumours are true. Another embarrassment to add to the list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
Seen it all before Spike..........sure MR2 is spokesman for the whistlers.....he will be so upset......... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2017, 08:29:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
Seen it all before Spike..........sure MR2 is spokesman for the whistlers.....he will be so upset......... :)

Got to give it to the CHC, board and SV......while everyone else is trying to become more professional, Antrim are bucking the trend with rank amateurism and cronyism at every level.   Feel for mckeever who has basically had his integrity questioned by his own people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
McKeever family are going to think they aren't welcome within the county lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
McKeever family are going to think they aren't welcome within the county lol

Portglenone boys must have been getting uppity.   Lie down croppies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 06, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
McKeever family are going to think they aren't welcome within the county lol

Portglenone boys must have been getting uppity.   Lie down croppies

Wi-fi must of lay down up past Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:46:32 PM
I was chatting with a boy today about the supposed Belfast demise and the rise of the SW. He says it's a long time coming, "sure only 1 SW club has won a championship in the last 50 years, as opposed to 8 city clubs."

I have no idea if he made those figures up.

That was the arguement 3 weeks ago.. Jeepers horse keep up ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2017, 12:54:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:46:32 PM
I was chatting with a boy today about the supposed Belfast demise and the rise of the SW. He says it's a long time coming, "sure only 1 SW club has won a championship in the last 50 years, as opposed to 8 city clubs."

I have no idea if he made those figures up.

That was the arguement 3 weeks ago.. Jeepers horse keep up ffs
Oh, it ended? Who won?

Apologies, I hadn't been talking to this boy in over a month.

Not sure, ill ask a cargin man....im sure they'll know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 07, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
Yeah look is this the first year ever that there may not be a Belfast side in senior final? Thats if Cargin win tomorrow but I would not be putting too much of my hard earned on that.

And if its not this year I dont think it will be too far down the line for the Johnnies. And all before St Brides get the thing harnessed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2017, 07:02:05 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 07, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
Yeah look is this the first year ever that there may not be a Belfast side in senior final? Thats if Cargin win tomorrow but I would not be putting too much of my hard earned on that.

And if its not this year I dont think it will be too far down the line for the Johnnies. And all before St Brides get the thing harnessed.

Dont think anyone was seriously suggesting a belfast demise, its just been cargins time. Perhaps thats drawing to an end. Perhaps its just things evening up and finally more genuine competitiveness.

Hard to say about johnnies. Have they got that extra bit about them im not sure. Lamh dhearg certainly look potential champions. Its still cargins to lose but if they have an off day johnnies, lamh dhearg, creggan and st galls could shock them.  That can only be good for antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2017, 08:01:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:46:32 PM
I was chatting with a boy today about the supposed Belfast demise and the rise of the SW. He says it's a long time coming, "sure only 1 SW club has won a championship in the last 50 years, as opposed to 8 city clubs."

I have no idea if he made those figures up.

That was the arguement 3 weeks ago.. Jeepers horse keep up ffs
Oh, it ended? Who won?

Apologies, I hadn't been talking to this boy in over a month.
Maybe that 'boy' was from the north HS and was perhaps making comment on the demise of hurling in ur neck of the woods......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 07, 2017, 08:47:35 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 07:02:05 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 07, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
Yeah look is this the first year ever that there may not be a Belfast side in senior final? Thats if Cargin win tomorrow but I would not be putting too much of my hard earned on that.

And if its not this year I dont think it will be too far down the line for the Johnnies. And all before St Brides get the thing harnessed.

Dont think anyone was seriously suggesting a belfast demise, its just been cargins time. Perhaps thats drawing to an end. Perhaps its just things evening up and finally more genuine competitiveness.

Hard to say about johnnies. Have they got that extra bit about them im not sure. Lamh dhearg certainly look potential champions. Its still cargins to lose but if they have an off day johnnies, lamh dhearg, creggan and st galls could shock them.  That can only be good for antrim football.

Yeah I think the Championship this year has been a breath of fresh air and much as I respect the achievements of Cargin down the years it wpuld be good to see a fresh winner this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2017, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 07, 2017, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2017, 08:01:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2017, 10:46:32 PM
I was chatting with a boy today about the supposed Belfast demise and the rise of the SW. He says it's a long time coming, "sure only 1 SW club has won a championship in the last 50 years, as opposed to 8 city clubs."

I have no idea if he made those figures up.

That was the arguement 3 weeks ago.. Jeepers horse keep up ffs
Oh, it ended? Who won?

Apologies, I hadn't been talking to this boy in over a month.
Maybe that 'boy' was from the north HS and was perhaps making comment on the demise of hurling in ur neck of the woods......
If he was, he has a strange way of putting it.

Anyway, in the last 50 years, 4 NA clubs have won the hurling championship. 3 city clubs have. Doesn't seem as bad.
Been a while......30 or so years......and looks like the S West are set to dominate for a while.....Dunloy took.the lot this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems

Actually he isnt happy.  Close source. Maybe you're out of the loop now. Sticking up for the establishment again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems
Which ref would be pleased if he has his judgement and indeed integrity called into question by a few individuals who most likely were not at the game in question MR2...?
Indeed a few would say u are indeed standing tall for ur mates.

Awaiting the call from BS.....

Cargin are most likely unconcerned as the were last term when the same body handed down suspension to JB...eve of championship final
:)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems

Actually he isnt happy.  Close source. Maybe you're out of the loop now. Sticking up for the establishment again.


Ffs lad wise up, again anyone who knows me and my dealings with the county would know that I'm not nor ever been on the good side of county board! But carry on lad, it's amusing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems
Which ref would be pleased if he has his judgement and indeed integrity called into question by a few individuals who most likely were not at the game in question MR2...?
Indeed a few would say u are indeed standing tall for ur mates.

Awaiting the call from BS.....

Cargin are most likely unconcerned as the were last term when the same body handed down suspension to JB...eve of championship final
:)

Sticking up for refs?? I've yet to go to a match or refereed in a match that an official/player/manager or supporter hasn't gave off about a referee or called into question his judgement his integrity and not leaving out his parentage !!! But now all of a sudden you're all worried about the ref??

Comical and predictable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2017, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems

Actually he isnt happy.  Close source. Maybe you're out of the loop now. Sticking up for the establishment again.


Ffs lad wise up, again anyone who knows me and my dealings with the county would know that I'm not nor ever been on the good side of county board! But carry on lad, it's amusing

Just so ive got this straight, you are ok with the chc taking the highly unusual step of overturning a referees report (and his reiteration that of fact  of incident via a telephone call ) to get a st johns player eligible to play?

Does this go on all the time for st johns players? Is it a case of who you know in the chc?  Im just asking coz im sure a lot of other clubs would want to know how regularly unusual measures like this occur
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 08:03:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems

Actually he isnt happy.  Close source. Maybe you're out of the loop now. Sticking up for the establishment again.


Ffs lad wise up, again anyone who knows me and my dealings with the county would know that I'm not nor ever been on the good side of county board! But carry on lad, it's amusing

Just so ive got this straight, you are ok with the chc taking the highly unusual step of overturning a referees report (and his reiteration that of fact  of incident via a telephone call ) to get a st johns player eligible to play?

Does this go on all the time for st johns players? Is it a case of who you know in the chc?  Im just asking coz im sure a lot of other clubs would want to know how regularly unusual measures like this occur

Now I'd have had you down as clever enough fella, but are you telling me this doesn't happen? So that I get it right, you've never heard of players having their red card rescinded ? Wow, either you've never watched any games played or coached to not know that this happens!

As for me saying it's ok... point that out where I said it please... I said he'd hardly be losing sleep over it, not the first time its happened and won't be the last. We are told these things happen and just fill in a report and sign it! After that it's someone else's problem!

I've also said Cargin won't worry either, they'll hardly make the same mistakes again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 08:03:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
So I was away for a day (works golf do! ) and the Referee from last week has endured hardship? The referee fills in a report after the game... it goes to the county and that's that, whatever happens afterwards is down to the county committee, I'd say McKeever wouldn't be losing sleep over it, nor would Cargin, slow news day it seems

Actually he isnt happy.  Close source. Maybe you're out of the loop now. Sticking up for the establishment again.


Ffs lad wise up, again anyone who knows me and my dealings with the county would know that I'm not nor ever been on the good side of county board! But carry on lad, it's amusing

Just so ive got this straight, you are ok with the chc taking the highly unusual step of overturning a referees report (and his reiteration that of fact  of incident via a telephone call ) to get a st johns player eligible to play?

Does this go on all the time for st johns players? Is it a case of who you know in the chc?  Im just asking coz im sure a lot of other clubs would want to know how regularly unusual measures like this occur

Now I'd have had you down as clever enough fella, but are you telling me this doesn't happen? So that I get it right, you've never heard of players having their red card rescinded ? Wow, either you've never watched any games played or coached to not know that this happens!

As for me saying it's ok... point that out where I said it please... I said he'd hardly be losing sleep over it, not the first time its happened and won't be the last. We are told these things happen and just fill in a report and sign it! After that it's someone else's problem!

I've also said Cargin won't worry either, they'll hardly make the same mistakes again

It certainly happens but surely unusual to rescind for reasons stated and the opposition of the opposition of the referee who wrote said report. Maybe Hardstation is right and the whole setup is farce.

Cargin comfortable tomorrow IF they for more than ten mins this time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
What were the reasons stated ? Can't see where you stated it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 08, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
No fan of cargin but i hope they win by 30 points.saff vis is a complete joke.its shaft south west side again.if a cargin player had of appealed it,it would have been doubled.People wonder why there is a divide? Its because of silly moronic people like chc and county board.people say u should be loyal to your county.why? When the people representing the county are constantly shafting you.why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2017, 10:22:27 AM
Was talking to Paul Mc Keever at a club fundraising quiz in our social club last night which he was working at (we raised over £8k) and he was quite mature regarding the about turn. He said he wasdisappointed for sure but certainly didn't come across as if he was going to lose nights sleep over the matter. Reports of him being devastated are considerably wide of the mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 10:47:24 AM
Quote from: Galer on October 08, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
No fan of cargin but i hope they win by 30 points.saff vis is a complete joke.its shaft south west side again.if a cargin player had of appealed it,it would have been doubled.People wonder why there is a divide? Its because of silly moronic people like chc and county board.people say u should be loyal to your county.why? When the people representing the county are constantly shafting you.why?

Same posters were on complaining about a player getting shafted at Croke park for a dismal while playing for the county and Casement didn't do anything and now when they do something it's the worst!!!!

You're a weird bunch, and developing a lot of made up stuff about Belfast clubs, isn't healthy.. if there is a divide the reason is at your own door step... Belfast ones weren't complaining when we had North Antrim chairman and SW chairman, once we have a city man then it's they are conspiring against us!!!

Still waiting on what Spike stated was said, galer if Cargin don't get to the Ulster final this year considering the draw Antrim have this year I'd be a very disappointed Cargin supporter 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 08, 2017, 10:22:27 AM
Was talking to Paul Mc Keever at a club fundraising quiz in our social club last night which he was working at (we raised over £8k) and he was quite mature regarding the about turn. He said he wasdisappointed for sure but certainly didn't come across as if he was going to lose nights sleep over the matter. Reports of him being devastated are considerably wide of the mark.
Never doubted you would toe the party line BS..... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 08, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
Your very quick to let people know how much ur club raises at fundraisers bannside. Another few of those and you may be able to afford a senior coach like mckeever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2017, 03:08:33 PM
Money raised is for a seriously ill young club member who has been hospitalised for 3 months, not for the club coffers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 08, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
Mr2 u see everything as an attack on u.look around and i think there is just cause for complaint on what has happened over the years.we thought sv were going to play the game fair for once,they just stacked the cards even highet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 05:09:17 PM
Quote from: Galer on October 08, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
Mr2 u see everything as an attack on u.look around and i think there is just cause for complaint on what has happened over the years.we thought sv were going to play the game fair for once,they just stacked the cards even highet

So bar Cargin why haven't the other SW sides stepped up to win the Championship? Is that another reason ?

I'm not seeing anything as an attack I'm only responding to the them and us thing being spouted by all the SW posters on this site!  ffs lad give it a rest, it's embarrassing

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 05:33:30 PM
Extra time... Lamhs hoping it goes to another replay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 08, 2017, 06:21:44 PM
Oh dear. SW football in turmoil.

Crisis ffs!! No manager no players on county team, no senior finalists (nevermind winner) junior already in Belfast with Another on the way !! Will someone think of the childer!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 08, 2017, 06:29:04 PM
Whole thing is fucked now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 06:31:48 PM
The internet will be down for a while up near CB direction, though he's been very quiet lately anyways
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 08, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Great game.

Final back in glenavy next Sunday ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 08, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
Thanks god for Antrim that there is a Belfast man in charge now. What would SW know about fball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 08, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
Thanks god for Antrim that there is a Belfast man in charge now. What would SW know about fball.

I was thinking the same! I suppose the soccer will keep them happy for a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 08, 2017, 07:49:25 PM
Lenny wouldnt have too many cargin men to consider after todays match looked like a team that has too many miles on the clock and the didnt have any craft that st galls had in their later years. Mick mc cann was very good but just hadnt the legs for extra time, tomas on his own up front. St johns very defensivly set up but they can play that way as they break at pace with very good ball carriers and good target men to hit. Will make for a good final. No doubt this was all planned to aggravate sw supporters who forgot Belfast teams could play football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 08, 2017, 08:46:57 PM
who was last team outside St Galls/Cargin to win the senior championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 08, 2017, 08:46:57 PM
who was last team outside St Galls/Cargin to win the senior championship?

I'm guessing another Belfast team.. the Johnnies or St Paul's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 08, 2017, 08:51:11 PM
1998 St John's...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 08, 2017, 08:52:21 PM
Good game between two bad teams. Football in antrim in stasis by the looks of it.  Mcbride and fitzy very good, good strong running and always wanted it. Johnnies very motivated. Obviously targetted mick mccann and at least one was a red card.  Cargins defence really poor, where has their full back line gone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 08, 2017, 08:52:21 PM
Good game between two bad teams. Football in antrim in stasis by the looks of it.  Mcbride and fitzy very good, good strong running and always wanted it. Johnnies very motivated. Obviously targetted mick mccann and at least one was a red card.  Cargins defence really poor, where has their full back line gone?

Two in a row champions who probably just have too many miles on the clock... be back motivated next year as they have always done... I'd say JB will call it a day.. and with the Ulster club draw wide open that would have been Cargins best chance...

Lamhs or the Johnnies will be partying too hard after the final to make an impact..

Was 98 the last time Cargin or Naomhgall weren't in a final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 08, 2017, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 08, 2017, 08:52:21 PM
Good game between two bad teams. Football in antrim in stasis by the looks of it.  Mcbride and fitzy very good, good strong running and always wanted it. Johnnies very motivated. Obviously targetted mick mccann and at least one was a red card.  Cargins defence really poor, where has their full back line gone?

Two in a row champions who probably just have too many miles on the clock... be back motivated next year as they have always done... I'd say JB will call it a day.. and with the Ulster club draw wide open that would have been Cargins best chance...

Lamhs or the Johnnies will be partying too hard after the final to make an impact..

Was 98 the last time Cargin or Naomhgall weren't in a final?

Lol, subtle shot across the bows of Cargin there.
I'll say it for you sure, St Galls have been a far superior team to cargin over the course of the last 10 years, dont think anyone would question that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:01:51 PM
CB and PJ will have something to say about that once the internet is up and running...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 08, 2017, 11:04:30 PM
LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL

Will Galls be back? No longer top dogs in Belfast, any decent young player ready to make the step up to the senior grade?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:14:39 PM
Be a while for us, few lads coming through but you need the right mix and luck for it to happen... tradition helps so like the Johnnies and Cargin we should be back competing, might be next year flip it could be ten years but the club is more than just trophies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:01:51 PM
CB and PJ will have something to say about that once the internet is up and running...

Internet fine Mr2.....we even have broadband now.
Certainly not running anywhere and unlike yourself stay right to the end not slipping out the gate early akin to your own good self.
Cargin were beaten by a better team on the day no complaints
Jeez a lotta good teams in our county it seems....reading a few comments herein...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 08, 2017, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:01:51 PM
CB and PJ will have something to say about that once the internet is up and running...

I couldn't care less who won today, I'm not a Cargin man. I wasn't there as i was attending a wake down the country. More to life than football. Fair play to the Johnnies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
Even suggestion from the Markets "two bad teams'.....now relative to " the Mal"s".....could well be right on the button there.....sure Cargin are away empty handed after all nobody wants the league or reserve titles...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
Even suggestion from the Markets "two bad teams'.....now relative to " the Mal"s".....could well be right on the button there.....sure Cargin are away empty handed after all nobody wants the league or reserve titles...

Be dredging them out of the Bann first thing in the morning surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 08, 2017, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:01:51 PM
CB and PJ will have something to say about that once the internet is up and running...

I couldn't care less who won today, I'm not a Cargin man. I wasn't there as i was attending a wake down the country. More to life than football. Fair play to the Johnnies.

Course,  you're only about when the mighty SW awakes, look I'm sure they will play the final down the SW at the very least to keep yas happy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
Thing the Milltown men would be glad to get their mitts on a couple.....not the cup for home engraving ...like last time!
And u do have a future...good minor team I hear...the future is bright did you not win a game this year... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 07:38:21 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
Thing the Milltown men would be glad to get their mitts on a couple.....not the cup for home engraving ...like last time!
And u do have a future...good minor team I hear...the future is bright did you not win a game this year... ;)

Nope bit like your Ulster campaigns..

Anyway the Johnnies will be tough enough to beat in the final, Lamhs should give it a rattle and be confident enough..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 09:21:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:29:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 08, 2017, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 11:01:51 PM
CB and PJ will have something to say about that once the internet is up and running...

I couldn't care less who won today, I'm not a Cargin man. I wasn't there as i was attending a wake down the country. More to life than football. Fair play to the Johnnies.

Course,  you're only about when the mighty SW awakes, look I'm sure they will play the final down the SW at the very least to keep yas happy

I'm always about no matter is awake mate.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I wish you ladies would change your tampons once in a while. 

Anyway, a decent and enjoyable match for the neutral. 

Glenavy's pitch was in some nick too.  are they hosting the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 09:45:46 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I wish you ladies would change your tampons once in a while. 

Anyway, a decent and enjoyable match for the neutral. 

Glenavy's pitch was in some nick too.  are they hosting the final?

Surely the Bear Pit makes sense for an all City final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Usain on October 09, 2017, 09:50:41 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I wish you ladies would change your tampons once in a while. 

Anyway, a decent and enjoyable match for the neutral. 

Glenavy's pitch was in some nick too.  are they hosting the final?

Glad I made the effort to see the game as ya never expect a replay to be as tight as the first day. Really enjoyable for the netural. Not sure who is going to win it now. Interestin final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 09, 2017, 10:02:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 08, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
Even suggestion from the Markets "two bad teams'.....now relative to " the Mal"s".....could well be right on the button there.....sure Cargin are away empty handed after all nobody wants the league or reserve titles...

?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 09, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
Antrim Football is opening up to a period where 5 or 6 teams could realistically be in contention for senior  championship honours. The St Galls total dominance and laterally that of Erins Own are probably over. Not to say Cargin couldnt bounce back and do the double next year, but matches will be much more competitive and as a result Antrim Football should be more interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=276716

Please forgive my stupidity, but how'd Domnhall end up with Lamh Dhearg? Why did the transfer happen?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=276716

Please forgive my stupidity, but how'd Domnhall end up with Lamh Dhearg? Why did the transfer happen?

??? Can of worms opened there PJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=276716

Please forgive my stupidity, but how'd Domnhall end up with Lamh Dhearg? Why did the transfer happen?

??? Can of worms opened there PJ

Sure somenbody tell me and then we can close the worms up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I wish you ladies would change your tampons once in a while. 

Anyway, a decent and enjoyable match for the neutral. 

Glenavy's pitch was in some nick too.  are they hosting the final?

I'm purely on the wind up, its just a laugh, I'd be taking a lot of stick if the Johnnies win! Jezze they be hard to listen too with Whack for the diddle!!!  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 01:21:07 PM
Ah sure I know.

Been hear long enough to know how all your minds work.  Ye big bitches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I wish you ladies would change your tampons once in a while. 

Anyway, a decent and enjoyable match for the neutral. 

Glenavy's pitch was in some nick too.  are they hosting the final?

I'm purely on the wind up, its just a laugh, I'd be taking a lot of stick if the Johnnies win! Jezze they be hard to listen too with Whack for the diddle!!!  :o

Is that not a Rossa song?  :o ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I wish you ladies would change your tampons once in a while. 

Anyway, a decent and enjoyable match for the neutral. 

Glenavy's pitch was in some nick too.  are they hosting the final?

I'm purely on the wind up, its just a laugh, I'd be taking a lot of stick if the Johnnies win! Jezze they be hard to listen too with Whack for the diddle!!!  :o

Is that not a Rossa song?  :o ;)

Oh aye!! Hardstation will be on now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
I wonder does Brennan still think Cargin are too good for Antrim and need to be in Derry championship to get competitive games ....rocket!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 09, 2017, 06:42:09 PM
Have to say the Johnnies were very impressive over the two games. A lot of their under 21s of recent years do seem to have come through and have developed into good seniors. Very impressed yesterday with Conor Johnston, Michael Bradley, and Peter Mc Callion as well as their county men Fitzy and Mc Bride. A very interesting final awaits and fair play...football is far from finished in the city.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 07:17:59 PM
I heard a Johnnies man has backed a right few quid on his lads at 16/1, good value!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
I wonder does Brennan still think Cargin are too good for Antrim and need to be in Derry championship to get competitive games ....rocket!

Brennan a Rocket u say......let's examine ur CV then...u really Trump...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
I wonder does Brennan still think Cargin are too good for Antrim and need to be in Derry championship to get competitive games ....rocket!

Brennan a Rocket u say......let's examine ur CV then...u really Trump...?

He'll hardly be staying now...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 07:48:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
I wonder does Brennan still think Cargin are too good for Antrim and need to be in Derry championship to get competitive games ....rocket!

Brennan a Rocket u say......let's examine ur CV then...u really Trump...?

He'll hardly be staying now...
Hear he wants to remain in Toome but only if Cargin move down to Intermediate or junior level in 2018....
Wants to mingle with his most knowledgeable critics...think he is on the Board. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
A good CV doesn't mean he isn't a rocket - St Galls won 12 championships out of 13, an all-ireland title and there was no mention of being too good for Antrim. Cargin won 2 in a row - a good CV doesn't mean he doesn't talk crXp at times

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 08:05:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 07:48:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
I wonder does Brennan still think Cargin are too good for Antrim and need to be in Derry championship to get competitive games ....rocket!

Brennan a Rocket u say......let's examine ur CV then...u really Trump...?

He'll hardly be staying now...
Hear he wants to remain in Toome but only if Cargin move down to Intermediate or junior level in 2018....
Wants to mingle with his most knowledgeable critics...think he is on the Board. ;)

Sure nothing surprises me about Cargin, after getting banned from the Antrim final (you know the game were yas went mental) that you were going to play in Derry , but they didn't want yas

stick to winning leagues >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
A good CV doesn't mean he isn't a rocket - St Galls won 12 championships out of 13, an all-ireland title and there was no mention of being too good for Antrim. Cargin won 2 in a row - a good CV doesn't mean he doesn't talk crXp at times
Think u got a selective memory .....JB has won four with Cargin and led teams to county titles in Derry...Tyrone as well as an Ulster and all Ireland title with Lavey...
And itself....lotta titles...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 08:28:14 PM
of course he has a smashing CV but it was still a daft thing to say that disrespected our County and our senior clubs and that's a real fact and not an alternative fact!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 08:28:14 PM
of course he has a smashing CV but it was still a daft thing to say that disrespected our County and our senior clubs and that's a real fact and not an alternative fact!
Trifle eccentric no doubt but he has earned respect all over this Island.....am sure he will live without your support.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 08:58:06 PM
All joking aside (though I'm finding it difficult)

That main Cargin team were very unlucky to meet a Galls team that was too good, cause if we hadn't have been about that Cargin team would have cleaned up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2017, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
A good CV doesn't mean he isn't a rocket - St Galls won 12 championships out of 13, an all-ireland title and there was no mention of being too good for Antrim. Cargin won 2 in a row - a good CV doesn't mean he doesn't talk crXp at times
Think u got a selective memory .....JB has won four with Cargin and led teams to county titles in Derry...Tyrone as well as an Ulster and all Ireland title with Lavey...
And itself....lotta titles...?

You're wrong on the last fact - Brendan convery was manager of lavey then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 08:59:56 PM
Intermediate final down for creggan on Saturday as part of a double header with minor b final. Dunloy involved in both games. Hopefully 2 wins but Aldergrove (minor) and St Brigids will not be easy beat
What about senior/minor A...???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
Glenavy sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 09, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
Glenavy sunday

Good old south west saves the day again...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 09:58:15 PM
What about senior/minor A...???

Didnt see Cargin in Minor A hurling this year CB. Assume youse played Minor B  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2017, 09:58:15 PM
What about senior/minor A...???

Didnt see Cargin in Minor A hurling this year CB. Assume youse played Minor B  ::)
Nope just couldn't come up with enough balls.....kept losing them :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:37:02 PM
Cant remember asking you about the Johnnies game? Thanks anyway ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2017, 07:04:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:37:02 PM
Cant remember asking you about the Johnnies game? Thanks anyway ;D
Aye right think u gotta have a peek within.....I am sure you are a firm acquaintance of Mr Mac Namee.
Empty vessels and all that craic or just a plain old keyboard warrior without a club to ur name.....perhaps just a bored WUM....u decide.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2017, 07:04:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:37:02 PM
Cant remember asking you about the Johnnies game? Thanks anyway ;D
Aye right think u gotta have a peek within.....I am sure you are a firm acquaintance of Mr Mac Namee.
Empty vessels and all that craic or just a plain old keyboard warrior without a club to ur name.....perhaps just a bored WUM....u decide.

You were burned CB ... move on and take the banter... every dog has its day, yours was a lot shorter than you hoped
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2017, 07:04:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:37:02 PM
Cant remember asking you about the Johnnies game? Thanks anyway ;D
Aye right think u gotta have a peek within.....I am sure you are a firm acquaintance of Mr Mac Namee.
Empty vessels and all that craic or just a plain old keyboard warrior without a club to ur name.....perhaps just a bored WUM....u decide.

(https://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/confused-dad.jpg)

Not a clue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 09, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
Glenavy sunday

Good old south west saves the day again...
Make sure yis get there for the Minor final at 1.30pm.

Your chance to see the SW's only hope for a Senior Championship over the next 10 years....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 09, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
Glenavy sunday

Good old south west saves the day again...
Make sure yis get there for the Minor final at 1.30pm.

Your chance to see the SW's only hope for a Senior Championship over the next 10 years....

Big talk there kid..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
Well, the SW is in turmoil at the minute.

No representative in Senior final, no SW County manager, possibly no SW County players. 

As Princess Leah, from just outside Toome once said to Obi Wan, "Come in Aghagallon minors, you're our only hope."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2017, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
Well, the SW is in turmoil at the minute.

No representative in Senior final, no SW County manager, possibly no SW County players. 

As Princess Leah, from just outside Toome once said to Obi Wan, "Come in Aghagallon minors, you're our only hope."

QUICK ..... you haven't much time to do that spell check  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
Well, the SW is in turmoil at the minute.

No representative in Senior final, no SW County manager, possibly no SW County players. 

As Princess Leah, from just outside Toome once said to Obi Wan, "Come in Aghagallon minors, you're our only hope."

Hardly SW in turmoil. 

Take off the Belfast blinkers and open your eyes horse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on October 10, 2017, 11:24:24 AM
Quarter finals by numbers:

Minor Football A
SW Teams: 6
City:2

Minor Football B
SW Teams: 6
City: 2

Minor Hurling A:
NA: 6
City:2 (one of which was an amalgamation that didn't show)

As an Antrim man who understands how important the City is to our County, it looks great that we have two teams in the final, but its very worrying what's coming through at minor and underage, which is what the SW boys are alluding to constantly. Why are the Belfast boys so defensive about what is clearly an issue?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 10, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
if we win the both games this weekend does it mean that the whole of SW and S antrim is in bother when a NA team upsets the balance lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
if we win the both games this weekend does it mean that the whole of SW and S antrim is in bother when a NA team upsets the balance lol

Don't you be throwing an extra curve ball into the mix now DR. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
if we win the both games this weekend does it mean that the whole of SW and S antrim is in bother when a NA team upsets the balance lol

Cat among the pigeons there DR..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 10, 2017, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
Well, the SW is in turmoil at the minute.

No representative in Senior final, no SW County manager, possibly no SW County players. 

As Princess Leah, from just outside Toome once said to Obi Wan, "Come in Aghagallon minors, you're our only hope."


Hardly SW in turmoil. 

Take off the Belfast blinkers and open your eyes horse.


You're being Uppity again paddyjohn. Tut, Tut.  Theres justification for everything and no accountability for anything. Its the way we do things and that's why we are so successful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 10, 2017, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
Well, the SW is in turmoil at the minute.

No representative in Senior final, no SW County manager, possibly no SW County players. 

As Princess Leah, from just outside Toome once said to Obi Wan, "Come in Aghagallon minors, you're our only hope."


Hardly SW in turmoil. 

Take off the Belfast blinkers and open your eyes horse.


You're being Uppity again paddyjohn. Tut, Tut.  Theres justification for everything and no accountability for anything. Its the way we do things and that's why we are so successful.

:'( :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
if we win the both games this weekend does it mean that the whole of SW and S antrim is in bother when a NA team upsets the balance lol

Don't you be throwing an extra curve ball into the mix now DR.

Dunloy is NA so yes thats even more crap for the SW, though they will try and claim you, dont fall for it DR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
if we win the both games this weekend does it mean that the whole of SW and S antrim is in bother when a NA team upsets the balance lol

Don't you be throwing an extra curve ball into the mix now DR.

Dunloy is NA so yes thats even more crap for the SW, though they will try and claim you, dont fall for it DR

Dunloy have dual nationality, NA & SW.. same way as St Endas have tri nationality! SA, NA & SW.. a real mixture lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 10, 2017, 01:21:13 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 09, 2017, 10:01:50 PM
Glenavy sunday

Good old south west saves the day again...
Make sure yis get there for the Minor final at 1.30pm.

Your chance to see the SW's only hope for a Senior Championship over the next 10 years....

f**k aff back to Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 01:53:50 PM
You're address is technically Armagh as well, so get down off your high horse there Jim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 10, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 01:53:50 PM
You're address is technically Armagh as well, so get down off your high horse there Jim!

Ard Mhacha Abu!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 10, 2017, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 10, 2017, 10:00:13 AM
Well, the SW is in turmoil at the minute.

No representative in Senior final, no SW County manager, possibly no SW County players. 

As Princess Leah, from just outside Toome once said to Obi Wan, "Come in Aghagallon minors, you're our only hope."

Of the 4 champo finals this weekend, 4 teams are SW/NA, 4 are city
All the finals are in the SW
County manager lives in SW
Several county players are from the SW

Aghagallon is closer to Down than Armagh

PS antrim gaa is in turmoil
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2017, 08:06:25 PM
No more than usual...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 10, 2017, 08:37:33 PM
How do the bookies see the senior final on Sunday? has to be close to a 50/50 game.... :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 08:57:52 PM
I'd tipped Lamhs this year, I thought they had the tools a couple of years ago but lacked a bit of belief The Johnnies though have had a decent season and had the measure of 2 times champions Cargin in both games, can score goals, as can Lamhs! Two different tactics so whoever wins the tactical battle will win as they are evenly matched...

Good luck to both teams... who has the lovely job of refereeing this game??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 08:57:52 PM
I'd tipped Lamhs this year, I thought they had the tools a couple of years ago but lacked a bit of belief The Johnnies though have had a decent season and had the measure of 2 times champions Cargin in both games, can score goals, as can Lamhs! Two different tactics so whoever wins the tactical battle will win as they are evenly matched...

Good luck to both teams... who has the lovely job of refereeing this game??

Has to be Sean Laverty or Karol Doherty I think. 2 very good refs and deserve the recognition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 08:57:52 PM
I'd tipped Lamhs this year, I thought they had the tools a couple of years ago but lacked a bit of belief The Johnnies though have had a decent season and had the measure of 2 times champions Cargin in both games, can score goals, as can Lamhs! Two different tactics so whoever wins the tactical battle will win as they are evenly matched...

Good luck to both teams... who has the lovely job of refereeing this game??

Has to be Sean Laverty or Karol Doherty I think. 2 very good refs and deserve the recognition.

One did the semi?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 09:24:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 08:57:52 PM
I'd tipped Lamhs this year, I thought they had the tools a couple of years ago but lacked a bit of belief The Johnnies though have had a decent season and had the measure of 2 times champions Cargin in both games, can score goals, as can Lamhs! Two different tactics so whoever wins the tactical battle will win as they are evenly matched...

Good luck to both teams... who has the lovely job of refereeing this game??

Has to be Sean Laverty or Karol Doherty I think. 2 very good refs and deserve the recognition.

One did the semi?

Surely that won't rule him out of the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:33:46 PM
Has generally, as for the recognition have they not ref'd finals? Belfast all the way I'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:33:46 PM
Has generally, as for the recognition have they not ref'd finals? Belfast all the way I'd say

Who is good in th city?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:52:42 PM
McCotter McDonald have been refereeing well for many years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2017, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:52:42 PM
McCotter McDonald have been refereeing well for many years

Always been impressed by Fintan McCotter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 10:23:59 PM
But might as well give it to a SW man so they can have not only the pitch but a referee! So no crisis in the SW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 10, 2017, 10:27:17 PM
Are we 'Lenny In' or 'Lenny Out' at the minute?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on October 10, 2017, 10:37:02 PM
Eamon McAuley...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
That should keep CB happy....being a Cargin man and all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 11:08:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
That should keep CB happy....being a Cargin man and all that.

I wonder is he on board??  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 07:17:03 AM
An antrim county final....in glenavy (after they were shafted last year) and a 'potential' referee from SW?  SW men thinking 'our cup doth runneth over'. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 07:45:32 AM
I'm so pleased the SW won something this year... can't claim the Dunloy team unfortunately so winning the venue and referee will have to do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 09:15:41 AM
So am I. SW facilities all excellent and based off their own hard work and money. Its a real pity some clubs cant even maintain the paltry facilities that they do have, despite handouts. Condemned stands & changing rooms here, tarnished county grounds there, begging bowl always at the ready.  Some clubs always looking to take shortcuts with the quick and easy options......reminds me of the county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 11, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
How many SW pounds will it cost me to watch this spectacle on Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2017, 09:15:41 AM
So am I. SW facilities all excellent and based off their own hard work and money. Its a real pity some clubs cant even maintain the paltry facilities that they do have, despite handouts. Condemned stands & changing rooms here, tarnished county grounds there, begging bowl always at the ready.  Some clubs always looking to take shortcuts with the quick and easy options......reminds me of the county board.

Fair play it's taken years for your lot to get sorted.. remember getting changed in the car for years cause the wooden huts were terrible! Tractors pulling the cars out off the field, the pitch was a field with cow and sheep crap all over it!

Maybe that's why the SW were so crap for years ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2017, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2017, 09:15:41 AM
So am I. SW facilities all excellent and based off their own hard work and money. Its a real pity some clubs cant even maintain the paltry facilities that they do have, despite handouts. Condemned stands & changing rooms here, tarnished county grounds there, begging bowl always at the ready.  Some clubs always looking to take shortcuts with the quick and easy options......reminds me of the county board.

Fair play it's taken years for your lot to get sorted.. remember getting changed in the car for years cause the wooden huts were terrible! Tractors pulling the cars out off the field, the pitch was a field with cow and sheep crap all over it!

Maybe that's why the SW were so crap for years ;D
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Jeez do know a lot of Milltown Row people and indeed glad to call more than a few as 'friend'...but u really buck the trend...
Cuckoo been at her business on the Row  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 10:28:19 AM
It's Called banter ... or slagging,  you were giving it for two years now it's bad craic? If you can't take it, don't give it.. so calm down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 10:40:00 AM
Ah the good auld days. Its funny how things have changed and now its the big smoke where you need to bring a pair of wellies for the match and a cloth to wipe the pigeon guano from the changing rooms.  Character building id say.   :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2017, 10:43:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 10:28:19 AM
It's Called banter ... or slagging,  you were giving it for two years now it's bad craic? If you can't take it, don't give it.. so calm down

Been taking it for years and do remember when Gall's were immersed in a 'bog'........but hey gonna help u MR2.....have a wee peek at Percy Bysshe Shelley's, "Ozymandias" and learn..... :)

Can provide a link if you cannot find it.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 11, 2017, 10:43:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 10:28:19 AM
It's Called banter ... or slagging,  you were giving it for two years now it's bad craic? If you can't take it, don't give it.. so calm down

Been taking it for years and do remember when Gall's were immersed in a 'bog'........but hey gonna help u MR2.....have a wee peek at Percy Bysshe Shelley's, "Ozymandias" and learn..... :)

Can provide a link if you cannot find it.....

*MR2 frantically googling*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 11, 2017, 11:26:51 AM
This town/country thing is a bit old. Adams off to Down I see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: outinfront on October 11, 2017, 11:26:51 AM
This town/country thing is a bit old. Adams off to Down I see.

*Spike franctically googling 'who cares?'*


I jest of course  :P

on that point though, wheres Lennys backroom staff??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
is there no chance we could ever look at getting the games streamed live for the likes of a final? Armagh TV are years ahead of everyone and its brilliant to use to watch a game.

this is totally non SW, lenny etc related so it may cause confusion lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
is there no chance we could ever look at getting the games streamed live for the likes of a final? Armagh TV are years ahead of everyone and its brilliant to use to watch a game.

this is totally non SW, lenny etc related so it may cause confusion lol


As far as I know its been discussed by the PRO but lack of funding was the sticking point also, decent vantage points at games was a problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
is there no chance we could ever look at getting the games streamed live for the likes of a final? Armagh TV are years ahead of everyone and its brilliant to use to watch a game.

this is totally non SW, lenny etc related so it may cause confusion lol


Does it involve the county board spending money?  Then no
Does it involve some forward thinking by the county board?  Then no
Does it involve a strategy, willing volunteers, a process of works to highlight the countys presence?  Then no
Does it involve taking away from the potential gate receipts at a county final?  Then no

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
is there no chance we could ever look at getting the games streamed live for the likes of a final? Armagh TV are years ahead of everyone and its brilliant to use to watch a game.

this is totally non SW, lenny etc related so it may cause confusion lol


Does it involve the county board spending money?  Then no
Does it involve some forward thinking by the county board?  Then no
Does it involve a strategy, willing volunteers, a process of works to highlight the countys presence?  Then no
Does it involve taking away from the potential gate receipts at a county final?  Then no

It could be a money maker. Pastie Quinn from C'Dall streamed the Semi & Final live on FB and charged a donation in return for doing so, he was doing the half marathon for Marie Curie so he used his go fund me page to collect money. Great idea.  £5 per game or say a £40 one off season ticket and sure your laughing.

The highlights over the last few seasons have superb and the work of the PRO and his volunteers should be built upon. Same as the Saffron Gael, superb idea by Curly and Paddy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
is there no chance we could ever look at getting the games streamed live for the likes of a final? Armagh TV are years ahead of everyone and its brilliant to use to watch a game.

this is totally non SW, lenny etc related so it may cause confusion lol


Does it involve the county board spending money?  Then no
Does it involve some forward thinking by the county board?  Then no
Does it involve a strategy, willing volunteers, a process of works to highlight the countys presence?  Then no
Does it involve taking away from the potential gate receipts at a county final?  Then no

It could be a money maker. Pastie Quinn from C'Dall streamed the Semi & Final live on FB and charged a donation in return for doing so, he was doing the half marathon for Marie Curie so he used his go fund me page to collect money. Great idea.  £5 per game or say a £40 one off season ticket and sure your laughing.

The highlights over the last few seasons have superb and the work of the PRO and his volunteers should be built upon. Same as the Saffron Gael, superb idea by Curly and Paddy.

Credit wheres its due our PRO has vastly improved the service since his introduction.  I've no qualms in saying he was one of SVs more inspired moves.  Perhaps himself and Pastie could team up somehow?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
is there no chance we could ever look at getting the games streamed live for the likes of a final? Armagh TV are years ahead of everyone and its brilliant to use to watch a game.

this is totally non SW, lenny etc related so it may cause confusion lol


Does it involve the county board spending money?  Then no
Does it involve some forward thinking by the county board?  Then no
Does it involve a strategy, willing volunteers, a process of works to highlight the countys presence?  Then no
Does it involve taking away from the potential gate receipts at a county final?  Then no

It could be a money maker. Pastie Quinn from C'Dall streamed the Semi & Final live on FB and charged a donation in return for doing so, he was doing the half marathon for Marie Curie so he used his go fund me page to collect money. Great idea.  £5 per game or say a £40 one off season ticket and sure your laughing.

The highlights over the last few seasons have superb and the work of the PRO and his volunteers should be built upon. Same as the Saffron Gael, superb idea by Curly and Paddy.

Credit wheres its due our PRO has vastly improved the service since his introduction.  I've no qualms in saying he was one of SVs more inspired moves.  Perhaps himself and Pastie could team up somehow?

From reading Pasties posts on FB he only that on thsoe 2 occasions.

Surely Justin  McCormick, Jamie Quinn and Joe Dyrample could work with the PRO along with tech gurus we have involved with the county or clubs. Its an unexplored venture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 11, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
The current PRO is not aligned to SV, he beat the SV candidate.

He should be helped, not hindered !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on October 11, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
The current PRO is not aligned to SV, he beat the SV candidate.

He should be helped, not hindered !!

Says it all really. 

Sounds like there is potential in it and current gaels who are experimenting with it. Surely Antrim Boards larger profile could help make it happen.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on October 11, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
The current PRO is not aligned to SV, he beat the SV candidate.

He should be helped, not hindered !!
Best PRO we have had but seems some on the Board would not be seen to agree with such  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 11, 2017, 03:41:19 PM
Our PRO has been brilliant this year with his promotion of our games at all levels. Ive worked with him a fair bit this season and everything any thing we have needed help with he has been on it.

I know they had wanted to stream the U21 hurling final live with the Armagh TV guys but near the time something came up with regards to the guys who run it at home so they couldnt do the match for them.

Not having a county ground to house all the equipment is also a problem!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2017, 03:45:49 PM
Sean Kelly almost certainly the best PRO in the country. Havent seen or heard anyone who differs with this view.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 11, 2017, 03:45:49 PM
Sean Kelly almost certainly the best PRO in the country. Havent seen or heard anyone who differs with this view.

That's a strange on bannside, I'd certainly like to see who had said otherwise... losing games and minds it seems by some..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
If it hadn't of been for the Casement Social Club sponsoring a couple of the games where highlights have been provided, they wouldnt of been done. Th county wouldn't provide the money for some games to be videoed and that's why a few earlier rounds weren't covered the way they were in 2016.

I definitely think there is merit in doing what Armagh have done and broadcast them live. I know a few mates in San Fran enjoyed watching the games this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
If it hadn't of been for the Casement Social Club sponsoring a couple of the games where highlights have been provided, they wouldnt of been done. Th county wouldn't provide the money for some games to be videoed and that's why a few earlier rounds weren't covered the way they were in 2016.

I definitely think there is merit in doing what Armagh have done and broadcast them live. I know a few mates in San Fran enjoyed watching the games this year.

Where they staying in the SW of San Fran?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
If it hadn't of been for the Casement Social Club sponsoring a couple of the games where highlights have been provided, they wouldnt of been done. Th county wouldn't provide the money for some games to be videoed and that's why a few earlier rounds weren't covered the way they were in 2016.

I definitely think there is merit in doing what Armagh have done and broadcast them live. I know a few mates in San Fran enjoyed watching the games this year.

Where they staying in the SW of San Fran?

Yet again the same repetitive crap from you..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
If it hadn't of been for the Casement Social Club sponsoring a couple of the games where highlights have been provided, they wouldnt of been done. Th county wouldn't provide the money for some games to be videoed and that's why a few earlier rounds weren't covered the way they were in 2016.

I definitely think there is merit in doing what Armagh have done and broadcast them live. I know a few mates in San Fran enjoyed watching the games this year.

Where they staying in the SW of San Fran?

Yet again the same repetitive crap from you..

Jesus lad would you let me have some craic for a week at least?? I've had to listen to SW domination and Belfast in crisis for a year!!!

But look if you're annoyed I'm sorry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2017, 07:12:29 PM
If it hadn't of been for the Casement Social Club sponsoring a couple of the games where highlights have been provided, they wouldnt of been done. Th county wouldn't provide the money for some games to be videoed and that's why a few earlier rounds weren't covered the way they were in 2016.

I definitely think there is merit in doing what Armagh have done and broadcast them live. I know a few mates in San Fran enjoyed watching the games this year.

Where they staying in the SW of San Fran?



Yet again the same repetitive crap from you..

Jesus lad would you let me have some craic for a week at least?? I've had to listen to SW domination and Belfast in crisis for a year!!!

But look if you're annoyed I'm sorry
Do think you continue to miss/ignore the point previously well made MR2.......that the top three clubs in South Antrim have failed to win more than a single game at minor level in 2018 and the dreaded ftf has been attached to a number of fixtures.
Seems little better at u-16......crisis....what crisis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 07:44:18 AM
So it's a minor crisis at south Antrim now?? Holy fuvk clutching at straws now.... you are embarrassing yourself now... you can't equate minor or underage success to senior success unless like what we did in winning minor and under 21 5 years running...how many titles have Glen won at senior level in Derry? And how many minor Ulster titles did they win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2017, 07:55:29 AM
"that the top three clubs in South Antrim have failed to win more than a single game at minor level in 2018".   Jeez that's next year written off already. Sad times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2017, 08:07:04 AM
It only matters if it's a pattern over a number of years. I would even say it would take 3 or 4 years at least to matter significantly.

On the flip side winning minor isn't the be all and end all. St johns this year are the first side in a long time in antrim football to come through at minor and make a dent at senior. Much more would have been expected of ld but i guess they can change that Sunday.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 12, 2017, 09:12:11 AM
You lads think the SW/City divide is toxic?

Try living in Aghagallon.  The Gate men (they all live past the Cranagh Bridge) have won the Parish Cup the past two years and it doesn't look like we've any new blood coming through in the Village team to stop 3-in-a-row.

Families are falling out over this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
Brendan Crossan: When will your backroom team be in place and what are you looking for in your backroom team?

Lenny Harbinson: It will be in place very soon. Brendan Trainor, who helped me in Ballymacnab, is coming in as my assistant.

Brendan is from Augher and has worked with Tyrone development squads in the past.

He has very good coaching pedigree. I'm delighted to have him on board because he thinks along similar lines as me and he's a really good coach.

What I'm looking for are strategic thinkers. I've lined up a strength and conditioning coach and a physio... I'm looking for somebody who's going to link my vision with the schools and development squads and the senior squads so there is continuity right the way through.



BC: How big is the Antrim job?

LH: This is a five-to-10-year job, if truth be told. Although there has been a lot of work done with development squads – U15s, U16s and minors have done reasonably well - we need to continue with that work and continue to build on it and develop those players.

Dublin won the All-Ireland this year and if you look at the last two or three years they've been seamlessly bringing in players from their U21s. It's important to have that plan in place to develop young players.



BC: What's the biggest challenge?

LH: A lot of things are built on confidence and that comes from winning.

My challenge is to hit the ground running, get everybody in the panel organised to a degree where we compete on a regular basis and by competing, that means winning games, and that builds momentum. That has to happen very quickly.



BC: When do you expect to hold trials?

LH: I have a whole schedule of trials outlined for this month, actually next weekend.

We will conduct two trials in the south-west, two trials in south Antrim and from those four games we will bring a trial panel together to play last year's senior football panel.

From that we will determine who goes forward to the McKenna Cup and the early stages of the National League.



BC: You talked about having pride to play for your county but there is still apathy out there regarding the Antrim football squad and the club-county relationships probably need a wee bit more nurturing. Do you think it's aspirational for young players to play for Antrim?

LH: There is a bit of work to be done from a PR point of view. Behind the scenes there is work going on at schools level and development squads and minors.

A lot more work is required. Your senior teams – whether in hurling or football – is your shop window and they have to start competing, start winning.

It's imperative over the next couple of years we get out of Division Four and get promoted to Division Three and slowly but surely work our way up the leagues so we're playing a better standard of football, which allows you then to compete at Championship level.

Also, it's very important to give young players a vision and an aspiration of playing at Casement Park. It's important those plans get passed because it's going to be an iconic stadium. For any youngster coming down from the south west to play a club match in Belfast and drives past it, or indeed any youngster in Belfast, that's somewhere they will want to play.



BC: Is it important the county teams are doing well with a new Casement Park on the horizon?

LH: All the work being done at development level has to continue and has to be accelerated, in conjunction with the senior team doing well and getting promoted and with a vision of wanting to play in Casement Park in a number of years time in an Ulster final.

That's a big part of the vision.

There are a lot of people behind the scenes who are committed from an administrative point of view, from a fund-raising point of view and also from a coaching point of view.



BC: While you were being interviewed by the county board [Football Review Committee], did you need to be encouraged by them in terms of what you needed to see happening?

LH: Yes, what's happening behind the scenes has to be important. Being an Antrim man, living in Antrim and reading the media you did get an idea of the momentum that's being built.

It's not going to be easy, it's not going to happen overnight, it's a long-term project over the next five or 10 years but you've got to start somewhere.



BC: You know Antrim football really well. What do you think of the calibre of player in the county?

LH: I've always believed that Antrim can compete with the best. It's like any county – you go through peaks and troughs.

In certain generations there are better players than maybe the previous generations... but for me it's about getting the best talent within the county on the field.

That's the first stage.

The second stage is getting highly organised and spend a lot of time coaching. Getting teams fit is the easy part; getting them organised and getting them to understand the game is crucially important.

Today's game is fantastic, the way it has evolved; it's far better than whenever I played back in the 80s. It's more tactical, there's more organisation...

If we can get these things in place: coaching structure, fitness, the right people on the pitch, there is no reason why we can't compete with the best.



BC: How important is getting out of Division Four in your first season?

LH: When you look at the teams in the division, Carlow had a fantastic Championship run. Laois have fallen back into Division Four but are always a formidable team.

If you play Limerick in Limerick they are always a big strong team... So the level, I think, is going to be very even in Division Four.

There will be a number of teams who will compete to get promoted.

How many home games will you have and how many away games will you have?

And it's trying to manage those away games in terms of logistics, sleeping in a different bed, eating out of a hotel – small things like that can have an impact.



BC: There is a good nucleus of young players already there. How important is it that none of them slip through the net?

LH: We will look at the talent that is out there playing and monitor how they're doing.

There will be other youngsters who are going to university and we need to keep an eye on their progress because that's a very good breeding ground for county.

And for the players who don't initially make the first panel, part of my vision is that we have a monitoring system in place.

We will have a number of people in Antrim who will monitor maybe 10 or 12 players, and grade and mark them.

I suppose the message I'd be sending to them is: We haven't forgotten about you. The panel will be open. If they're improving then they'll be called into the panel.



BC: With social media nowadays everyone is a critic. You'll find that more and more in this role. What's your view?

LH: Keyboard warriors, I think, people call them (laughs). I don't read a lot of social media but at times they might come out with some valid comments.

Other times it is quite negative. They don't know what's going on behind the scenes and the work that will be put in.

All I know, all the teams I've managed and the players I've managed nobody goes out to fail, nobody goes out to under-perform. We just have to live with social media.



BC: Some players have retired recently. Are there any particular players you would consider calling on?

LH: If some of those players who have stepped away from Antrim and are playing club football at a high level and playing well, I don't see any problem of sitting down with someone and asking them what their feelings are about returning to the county.

As I've said, it's important that we get the best players on the field.

But I can't force them.

They'll have to want to give it another go. I've got to go with the committed bunch that's going to be there.



BC: Do you miss your playing days?

LH: Yes. I'd love to be playing today, absolutely. It's more organised, better tactics, more analysis, players are treated better. Playing is far, far better than managing.



BC: You played 12 years with Antrim? What were those days like?

LH: I actually remember Brother Ennis was manager of Antrim when he called me into the panel, aged 17.

We played Armagh in the McKenna Cup in Newry and I remember Kevin Gough scored a fantastic goal in the last few minutes to win the game.

And I remember sitting on the bus on the way back from Newry thinking, 'this is great'. But there weren't too many more days like that.



BC: Did you enjoy those days? I know Antrim were in the lower divisions for most of that time... Do you have regrets?

LH: When you reflect back you always feel you could have done better, personally, in terms of your preparation, working on your skills.

You always ask yourself: Was I the best I could have been? Could I have done more? And the truthful answer to that is: Yes, I could've done more.



BC: What is the best thing about managing teams? Why do you do it?

LH: I like dealing with young people and seeing their enthusiasm. That's very heartening and also whenever you start planning and seeing your plans developing and seeing results, that's very satisfying.



BC: You always wanted to do this job. Did you ever envisage you would do it?

LH: At different stages I did but maybe not right here and now. I don't think there is a perfect time.

You've just got to take the moment and the moment has come around. I'm probably like a lot of people - I'm a frustrated supporter down through the years.

Now I want to do something about it along with the backroom team and the players and hopefully we can do something.



BC: What was the secret in guiding St Gall's to the 2010 All-Ireland final?

LH: I took the job in 2009, going into 2010. Basically, they had a nucleus of a very, very good team. We had lots of guys with county experience – the two Gallaghers [Ronan and Rory] from Fermanagh and lots of guys from Antrim.

They had won a number of Antrim Championships and they had competed in the Ulster Championship. So they had experience, plus good footballers.

To get them over the line, there was just a wee bit more organisation. I tweaked things.

We didn't start training until later in the year – June/July time – to try and keep the players fresh. We tried to peak for an Antrim final and then reset.

Just small tweaks: when we trained, where we trained and how we trained. We trained hard and we spent a lot of time on our shooting.



BC: Was winning the All-Ireland on St Patrick's Day the best day you had with St Gall's?

LH: It was a very enjoyable day. I enjoyed the Antrim championships as well. Those titles were close to your heart. It's funny, in a perverse sort of way, you always remember the days when you don't win.

I can remember more about the following year [2011] and losing a game to Crossmaglen than what I remember the previous year in Croke Park.



BC: What's been the steepest learning curve for you in your managerial career?

LH: I challenged myself after St Gall's. I worked out of Dublin for a few years and I did a bit of coaching with Dundalk Gaels and over the last couple of years I've been involved with Ballymacnab.

There are great people involved in those clubs.

I didn't have 14 or 15 county players, so the challenge at those clubs was trying to maximise the resources you had – and that's when you have to step up as a coach and learn new things and challenge yourself.

I was very lucky because the players in those teams were very willing to learn.



BC: What was your time like at Ballymacnab?

LH: It was very rewarding, a great club, great people and the playing group themselves just wanted to learn so much. Brendan Trainor went along that journey with me.

We played a lot of league games with key players missing through injury and county commitments, so we had to learn a lot in trying to compete with limited resources.



BC: When do you expect to have a panel assembled?

LH: Around the second week in November when all the trials are conducted I'll have a panel ready to start training.

So far, I've had a number of meetings with county board officials, I've met with some people who previously worked with Antrim to get their views on what worked, what didn't work.

Both Brendan [Trainor] and I have a schedule of matches to attend, so there's a lot of activity under the surface in advance of full training of a new panel in mid-November.



BC: Who was the best player you played with?

LH: (Pause) There was a guy called Declan Muldoon from Tyrone who had everything and unfortunately got a bad injury. I played with him at the 'Ranch [St Mary's] and he played for Tyrone when I was playing with Antrim.



BC: Who was your biggest influence on your playing and managerial careers?

LH: I suppose the boys in St Gall's – the likes of PJ O'Hare and a few others who came from a basketball background. We tried to play a stylish brand of football, possession football.



BC: Your worst moment in football?

LH: Losing to Crossmaglen in the Ulster Club the year after St Gall's had won the All-Ireland. Had we actually got over that hurdle I think we would have got back to the All-Ireland again.

That was the worst moment. The previous year, we didn't have any injuries.

That year, Kevin [McGourty] hurt his back, Sean Burke had a bad back, Sean Kelly and Terry O'Neill were sick on the bus on the way to the game, which was only down the road.

All those tiny things. They scored their penalty and we missed ours. We didn't perform the way I knew we could.



BC: Was winning the All-Ireland Club in 2010 the best feeling you've experienced in football?

LH: No. Winning the 1979 minor championship because St Gall's came from Division Two to win it. That was our first major trophy.



BC: Who was the best player you played against?

LH: I played against Tony Scullion a couple of times. He was a very difficult opponent. Tony was hard, but fair.



BC: Do you enjoy watching the modern game?

LH: Give me the modern game any day compared to the old games you see on TG4. Some of those old games were terrible. The fitness levels might have been good but they couldn't kick the ball.

Technically, everybody knows more about the game now.

There is skilled defending as well as attacking. The whole defensive criticism of the modern game has been blown out of all proportion because there's a skill and an art in being defensively organised.

The game has evolved to the point where there's almost a basketball structure as to how you break defences down.

Today's game is massively better; the players are fitter and more tuned into the tactical side of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 12, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
I have inputted Lenny's interview into some very complex algorithm software and I have reached some very startling conclusions.

He uses the words "south-west" on one occasion, "south west" (without the hyphen) on one occasion and "Belfast" on two occasions.

I think we can put the SW/Belfast debate to bed now.  Lenny is there for all of us!!  Viva Lenny!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2017, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 12, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
I have inputted Lenny's interview into some very complex algorithm software and I have reached some very startling conclusions.

He uses the words "south-west" on one occasion, "south west" (without the hyphen) on one occasion and "Belfast" on two occasions.

I think we can put the SW/Belfast debate to bed now.  Lenny is there for all of us!!  Viva Lenny!

Even Armagh men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
How strong have Cargin been at minor level in this last 10 years?
All clubs get year groups were they aren't very strong.
I remember our club playing in the minor B. It was the level most suited to that particular year group. We won the minor A a year or two later. It's a silly argument.
Never mentioned strength in depth or indeed "winning" minor championship HS....but seems a problem exists when a juvenile team fails to field and such impacts on their opponents on the given date.
Been more than a few failures this term in minor competition.

Cannot remember a Cargin juvenile team not fulfilling their fixture in the well structured and organised South West leagues and think few in this region will be impressed at how the All County minor leagues have progressed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 12, 2017, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2017, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 12, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
I have inputted Lenny's interview into some very complex algorithm software and I have reached some very startling conclusions.

He uses the words "south-west" on one occasion, "south west" (without the hyphen) on one occasion and "Belfast" on two occasions.

I think we can put the SW/Belfast debate to bed now.  Lenny is there for all of us!!  Viva Lenny!

Even Armagh men?

f**k off back to Down G's man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
How strong have Cargin been at minor level in this last 10 years?
All clubs get year groups were they aren't very strong.
I remember our club playing in the minor B. It was the level most suited to that particular year group. We won the minor A a year or two later. It's a silly argument.
Never mentioned strength in depth or indeed "winning" minor championship HS....but seems a problem exists when a juvenile team fails to field and such impacts on their opponents on the given date.
Been more than a few failures this term in minor competition.

Cannot remember a Cargin juvenile team not fulfilling their fixture in the well structured and organised South West leagues and think few in this region will be impressed at how the All County minor leagues have progressed.

Are there finalists from Belfast in the Under 16 and minor this years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2017, 07:55:29 AM
"that the top three clubs in South Antrim have failed to win more than a single game at minor level in 2018".   Jeez that's next year written off already. Sad times.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and beneath a shining star of Radio Ulster and a juvenile coach of some prowess in West, sorry South of the city. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2017, 06:51:04 PM
A very good and insightful article there which offers Antrim supporters their first opportunity to grasp Lennys thoughts and plans. He certainly hits the right buttons with his answers here and as said before, for success to follow, Lenny must put in place a really impressive set up that convinces players to want to be part of it. If the buzz from initial sessions is good, and its clear that players get a vibe that this management team can deliver something special, then every player worth his salt will want to be part of it. Respect works two ways and should never be assumed or taken for granted. Lenny has excellent credentials, and hopefully he can kick start something special.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
How strong have Cargin been at minor level in this last 10 years?
All clubs get year groups were they aren't very strong.
I remember our club playing in the minor B. It was the level most suited to that particular year group. We won the minor A a year or two later. It's a silly argument.
Never mentioned strength in depth or indeed "winning" minor championship HS....but seems a problem exists when a juvenile team fails to field and such impacts on their opponents on the given date.
Been more than a few failures this term in minor competition.

Cannot remember a Cargin juvenile team not fulfilling their fixture in the well structured and organised South West leagues and think few in this region will be impressed at how the All County minor leagues have progressed.

Are there finalists from Belfast in the Under 16 and minor this years?
Most likely u-16 Belfast based finalists as this competition proceeds in a divisional board structure.
Jeez finger on the pulse MR2.. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
How strong have Cargin been at minor level in this last 10 years?
All clubs get year groups were they aren't very strong.
I remember our club playing in the minor B. It was the level most suited to that particular year group. We won the minor A a year or two later. It's a silly argument.
Never mentioned strength in depth or indeed "winning" minor championship HS....but seems a problem exists when a juvenile team fails to field and such impacts on their opponents on the given date.
Been more than a few failures this term in minor competition.

Cannot remember a Cargin juvenile team not fulfilling their fixture in the well structured and organised South West leagues and think few in this region will be impressed at how the All County minor leagues have progressed.

Are there finalists from Belfast in the Under 16 and minor this years?
Most likely u-16 Belfast based finalists as this competition proceeds in a divisional board structure.
Jeez finger on the pulse MR2.. :)

Was the All county league final at under 16 I was referring to, that Ballymena team is decent enough, by your sums they should be lording it come senior ..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2017, 09:49:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
How strong have Cargin been at minor level in this last 10 years?
All clubs get year groups were they aren't very strong.
I remember our club playing in the minor B. It was the level most suited to that particular year group. We won the minor A a year or two later. It's a silly argument.
Never mentioned strength in depth or indeed "winning" minor championship HS....but seems a problem exists when a juvenile team fails to field and such impacts on their opponents on the given date.
Been more than a few failures this term in minor competition.

Cannot remember a Cargin juvenile team not fulfilling their fixture in the well structured and organised South West leagues and think few in this region will be impressed at how the All County minor leagues have progressed.

Are there finalists from Belfast in the Under 16 and minor this years?
Most likely u-16 Belfast based finalists as this competition proceeds in a divisional board structure.
Jeez finger on the pulse MR2.. :)

Was the All county league final at under 16 I was referring to, that Ballymena team is decent enough, by your sums they should be lording it come senior ..

Tonight? was that not Un14?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
Sorry under 14's our under 16 lads were beat last week... think we'll manage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
Sorry under 14's our under 16 lads were beat last week... think we'll manage
Msking it up as you go Mr2...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 12, 2017, 10:36:30 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.

Who were the two teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
Sorry under 14's our under 16 lads were beat last week... think we'll manage
Msking it up as you go Mr2...... ;)

Yeah that's what it is  ;D ;D  ... let's hope the NA and SW win at weekend otherwise it's a clean sweep and I'll end up bantering for another week!

Sorry forgot about the reserve champions .. be something to cheer about at the annual dinner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 12, 2017, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.

If you don't pay the fee, you're not in the race... maybe  8)

PS not knowing the 'facts', isn't 'incompetent' not pretty strong, even for an anonymous poster, but hey, what the hell, you can change your warrior name.
The volunteers can't.

PSS thought for everyone; did you assist with any draws, is your shoulder on these wheels ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 13, 2017, 12:11:56 AM
Quote from: bogieman on October 12, 2017, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.

If you don't pay the fee, you're not in the race... maybe  8)

PS not knowing the 'facts', isn't 'incompetent' not pretty strong, even for an anonymous poster, but hey, what the hell, you can change your warrior name.
The volunteers can't.

PSS thought for everyone; did you assist with any draws, is your shoulder on these wheels ?

Ffs catch yourself on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2017, 07:17:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2017, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
Sorry under 14's our under 16 lads were beat last week... think we'll manage
Msking it up as you go Mr2...... ;)

Yeah that's what it is  ;D ;D  ... let's hope the NA and SW win at weekend otherwise it's a clean sweep and I'll end up bantering for another week!

Sorry forgot about the reserve champions .. be something to cheer about at the annual dinner

Now now MR2 me oul mucker!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 13, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Quote from: bogieman on October 12, 2017, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.

If you don't pay the fee, you're not in the race... maybe  8)

PS not knowing the 'facts', isn't 'incompetent' not pretty strong, even for an anonymous poster, but hey, what the hell, you can change your warrior name.
The volunteers can't.

PSS thought for everyone; did you assist with any draws, is your shoulder on these wheels ?

Thanks for clearing up the reason for the redraw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2017, 07:29:34 AM
Now I'm away this weekend, otherwise I'd be officiating at the match :o :o,  small matter of the Amsterdam marathon to navigate on Sunday, so good luck to both senior finalist (felt a bitta sick saying that) think it may go to a draw again, good interviews on the Saffron Gael by managers and players..

And same to both minor finalists, Rossa probably feel they let themselves down with the hurling expectations this year so may be a lot more determined to make up for that, great to see such big strides being made by Jimstynes club, bodes well for the future of Antrim that we have four different teams for a change competing for silverware
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 13, 2017, 07:45:48 AM
Good luck in Amsterdam, a few Belfast folk running that one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2017, 07:52:45 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 13, 2017, 07:45:48 AM
Good luck in Amsterdam, a few Belfast folk running that one.

There's a good squad heading from North Belfast going!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 13, 2017, 08:00:44 AM
None from the South West?!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2017, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 13, 2017, 08:00:44 AM
None from the South West?!?
U never stray into the West BB......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 13, 2017, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.

noticed ourselves and Rossa were not in the draw anymore  :o lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2017, 09:31:15 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 13, 2017, 08:00:44 AM
None from the South West?!?

South West Belfast? Or those who used to be West and are now South?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 13, 2017, 09:47:55 AM
Quote from: bogieman on October 12, 2017, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 12, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Is it true the U21 championship had to be redrawn after 2 teams were left out of the initial draw?

Pretty incompetent if that's the case.

If you don't pay the fee, you're not in the race... maybe  8)

PS not knowing the 'facts', isn't 'incompetent' not pretty strong, even for an anonymous poster, but hey, what the hell, you can change your warrior name.
The volunteers can't.

PSS thought for everyone; did you assist with any draws, is your shoulder on these wheels ?

He didn't assist in any draws, but he's pulled his balls a few times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
Allianz Football League Division 4

Round 1: Saturday, January 27: Laois v Limerick, London v Carlow; Sunday, January 28: Antrim v Leitrim, Wicklow v Waterford

Round 2: Sunday, February 4: Leitrim v Laois, Limerick v Carlow, London v Wicklow, Waterford v Antrim

Round 3: Saturday, February 10: Laois v Waterford; Sunday, February 11: Antrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Leitrim, London v Limerick

Round 4: Sunday, February 25: Leitrim v Limerick, Waterford v Carlow, Wicklow v Laois, London v Antrim

Round 5: Saturday, March 3: Carlow v Wicklow, London v Leitrim; Sunday, March 4: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Waterford

Round 6: Sunday, March 11: London v Laois; Sunday, March 18: Antrim v Carlow, Waterford v Leitrim, Wicklow v Limerick

Round 7: Sunday, March 25: Carlow v Laois, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Antrim, London v Waterford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 03:29:30 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
Allianz Football League Division 4

Round 1: Saturday, January 27: Laois v Limerick, London v Carlow; Sunday, January 28: Antrim v Leitrim, Wicklow v Waterford

Round 2: Sunday, February 4: Leitrim v Laois, Limerick v Carlow, London v Wicklow, Waterford v Antrim

Round 3: Saturday, February 10: Laois v Waterford; Sunday, February 11: Antrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Leitrim, London v Limerick

Round 4: Sunday, February 25: Leitrim v Limerick, Waterford v Carlow, Wicklow v Laois, London v Antrim

Round 5: Saturday, March 3: Carlow v Wicklow, London v Leitrim; Sunday, March 4: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Waterford

Round 6: Sunday, March 11: London v Laois; Sunday, March 18: Antrim v Carlow, Waterford v Leitrim, Wicklow v Limerick

Round 7: Sunday, March 25: Carlow v Laois, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Antrim, London v Waterford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 13, 2017, 06:27:00 PM
Good luck mr2.
Last 2 away matches tough going.if they get promoted with them fixtures it will b some going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 14, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
The U21 championship will be redrawn this week and published as soon as it has been made.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 03:25:45 PM
Aldergrove 3-10
Dunloy 1-14

Bit of a shock in the B minor.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 14, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
The U21 championship will be redrawn this week and published as soon as it has been made.
ffs.....that true?
Games already played....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 14, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
The U21 championship will be redrawn this week and published as soon as it has been made.
ffs.....that true?
Games already played....

Don't criticise! Bogieman will shout at you for not volunteering to help with a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 14, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
The U21 championship will be redrawn this week and published as soon as it has been made.
ffs.....that true?
Games already played....

Don't criticise! Bogieman will shout at you for not volunteering to help with a draw.
Which teams were omitted from draw.....?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 14, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
The U21 championship will be redrawn this week and published as soon as it has been made.
ffs.....that true?
Games already played....

Don't criticise! Bogieman will shout at you for not volunteering to help with a draw.
Which teams were omitted from draw.....?

Not sure but rumours are that MR2 took out 2 SW teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 04:40:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 14, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
The U21 championship will be redrawn this week and published as soon as it has been made.
ffs.....that true?
Games already played....

Don't criticise! Bogieman will shout at you for not volunteering to help with a draw.
Which teams were omitted from draw.....?

Not sure but rumours are that MR2 took out 2 SW teams
And took them back to Milltown.......?
Back up required ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2017, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.
indeed ur right but we can move across the bann and up the road to Tyrone...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2017, 07:40:28 PM
Is that a clean sweep for belfast clubs across all grades and levels? Been a while since that happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2017, 08:31:27 PM
Whuch grade sw win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2017, 08:46:26 PM
Fair enough. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2017, 09:08:46 PM
U16 all county final still to be played too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 15, 2017, 07:04:27 AM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
Allianz Football League Division 4

Round 1: Saturday, January 27: Laois v Limerick, London v Carlow; Sunday, January 28: Antrim v Leitrim, Wicklow v Waterford

Round 2: Sunday, February 4: Leitrim v Laois, Limerick v Carlow, London v Wicklow, Waterford v Antrim

Round 3: Saturday, February 10: Laois v Waterford; Sunday, February 11: Antrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Leitrim, London v Limerick

Round 4: Sunday, February 25: Leitrim v Limerick, Waterford v Carlow, Wicklow v Laois, London v Antrim

Round 5: Saturday, March 3: Carlow v Wicklow, London v Leitrim; Sunday, March 4: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Waterford

Round 6: Sunday, March 11: London v Laois; Sunday, March 18: Antrim v Carlow, Waterford v Leitrim, Wicklow v Limerick

Round 7: Sunday, March 25: Carlow v Laois, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Antrim, London v Waterford
[/quote

Why are London at home in every game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 15, 2017, 09:59:42 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 15, 2017, 07:04:27 AM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
Allianz Football League Division 4

Round 1: Saturday, January 27: Laois v Limerick, London v Carlow; Sunday, January 28: Antrim v Leitrim, Wicklow v Waterford

Round 2: Sunday, February 4: Leitrim v Laois, Limerick v Carlow, London v Wicklow, Waterford v Antrim

Round 3: Saturday, February 10: Laois v Waterford; Sunday, February 11: Antrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Leitrim, London v Limerick

Round 4: Sunday, February 25: Leitrim v Limerick, Waterford v Carlow, Wicklow v Laois, London v Antrim

Round 5: Saturday, March 3: Carlow v Wicklow, London v Leitrim; Sunday, March 4: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Waterford

Round 6: Sunday, March 11: London v Laois; Sunday, March 18: Antrim v Carlow, Waterford v Leitrim, Wicklow v Limerick

Round 7: Sunday, March 25: Carlow v Laois, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Antrim, London v Waterford
[/quote

Why are London at home in every game?

GAA policy of promoting the game in foreign countries and Big cities..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2017, 03:35:23 PM
Minor football goes to the city too...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2017, 05:25:24 PM
Will the SW committee have crisis talks about the lack of minor and senior talent? And schools too!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 15, 2017, 05:57:15 PM
Lads were saying minor winners were some sort of belfast almagation team? What way does that work for ulster? They able to compete as Rossa? Some goood players on the team. Number 11 from st teresas in particular.

Senior final was as enjoyable as match that ive attended in a long time. Also, thought glenavy put on a great show so fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 15, 2017, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 15, 2017, 06:07:40 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 15, 2017, 05:57:15 PM
Lads were saying minor winners were some sort of belfast almagation team? What way does that work for ulster? They able to compete as Rossa? Some goood players on the team. Number 11 from st teresas in particular.

Senior final was as enjoyable as match that ive attended in a long time. Also, thought glenavy put on a great show so fair play.
No. 11 was the only non-Rossa player as far as I'm aware.

Sure every city team is an amalgamation of some sort  ;) #blowins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2017, 06:24:53 PM
Well done Hardstation that was a great minor team. Can't see you beat in under 21 either. Plenty of talent coming through your ranks. Challenge is can you bring enough through to senior level.

Senior final a good even contest. Well done to Lamh Dhearg. Big Buch will be in some form tonight!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
Well done to Rossa. Better team on the day. I am disappointed for our lads that they just didn't perform to the level that we know they can. Some of them seemed to let the big occasion get to them and then make silly mistakes or miss simple chances that they usually score. We still have a large portion of that team available next year though! I was going to say that Rossa have a cracker who was wearing number 11 but then heard he is from St Teresa's. Annoying for us but it is bound to be annoying knowing that you aren't keeping him and that he is taking the place of someone else from your own club. But that's the way it seems to be in Belfast. 7 or so of our team will be playing a big part in the St. Ronan's, Lurgan McCrory team this year, so hopefully that will improve them even more and get them through to senior football.

The senior final was brilliant and I think overall Lamh Dherg deserved the win. The ref was playing for a draw though! I think it went into 42 mins in the second half before he decided to blow it up. Also, a LD man got a straight red whereas St. John's man got a yellow near the end during that handbags incident. I couldn't work it out. Great excitement at the end and fair played to Paddy for sticking over the winner.

Also, Glenavy did a great job of hosting the game today! Their pitch was immaculate for this time of year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 15, 2017, 09:57:34 PM
Fair play to Lamh Dhearg, nobody can deny or begrudge a few of the older hands a championship medal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 15, 2017, 10:45:48 PM
Good game lov to b a fly on the wall next time the nugents get together lol.some great scores few things didnt click for the johnnies.winners maybe just shaded it.plenty of time for oliver to get his red card rescinded for next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
Well done to Rossa. Better team on the day. I am disappointed for our lads that they just didn't perform to the level that we know they can. Some of them seemed to let the big occasion get to them and then make silly mistakes or miss simple chances that they usually score. We still have a large portion of that team available next year though! I was going to say that Rossa have a cracker who was wearing number 11 but then heard he is from St Teresa's. Annoying for us but it is bound to be annoying knowing that you aren't keeping him and that he is taking the place of someone else from your own club. But that's the way it seems to be in Belfast. 7 or so of our team will be playing a big part in the St. Ronan's, Lurgan McCrory team this year, so hopefully that will improve them even more and get them through to senior football.

The senior final was brilliant and I think overall Lamh Dherg deserved the win. The ref was playing for a draw though! I think it went into 42 mins in the second half before he decided to blow it up. Also, a LD man got a straight red whereas St. John's man got a yellow near the end during that handbags incident. I couldn't work it out. Great excitement at the end and fair played to Paddy for sticking over the winner.

Also, Glenavy did a great job of hosting the game today! Their pitch was immaculate for this time of year.

These players or player in this case wouldn't be getting a game this year if he wasn't sanctioned to another club... what was the name of the algamation team from the SW that won a couple of minors in the 90's? Also another algamation team got to the county minor final this year ! It happens and looking at the result I'd say it wasn't the main reason.... St Paul's beat our hurlers this year with a mix of St Paul's and Sarsfields..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 15, 2017, 11:03:30 PM
Yes Rossa had a player playing who usually represents St Teresas, would you rather the lad doesn't play his minor age group because he is loyal to his club and they can't field at that level, or allow him the chance to showcase his talents against players his own age. JimStynes i think a lot of clubs not just Belfast clubs use the rules to suit, as far as i am aware he is the only player not fully participating with the Rossa club and after todays match i don't think your club can really use that as part of the reason they were beat quite easily. Rossa have a lot of very good young players like a lot of Belfast clubs. After the weekends results i think the GAA is alive and well in Belfast. Glenavy deserve a lot of credit for today very well organised.
lastly Lamh Dhearg deserved their victory today had that wee bit more composure from experienced players like Micko, Conor and Ryan Murray,Reg and Paddy Cunningham. People talking about St Johns being the team over the next 5 years but I'm sure Lamh Dhearg will feel the same with the experienced young players they have. Anyway maybe a SW team could feature if they stop feeling sorry for themselves. Belfast GAA alive and kicking scores.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2017, 11:22:53 PM
Where did I say it would have made a difference? Rossa were the far better team on the day and I wouldn't blame them for taking players if offered. They are doing well at all ages and obviously massive work is being put in. And speaking to a few Rossa men about this issue last year they weren't happy about players from other clubs playing for their u21 team. I would question why do St. Teresa's fail to field at minor level? There are massive schools right beside their pitch. Surely they can find 15 players! We should maybe get a loan of a few of the best players from Clan na Gael or Clann Eireann in Lurgan next year. #swcrisis #lennyout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 16, 2017, 12:16:32 AM
Maybe theres a case for all players eligable for a sanction to be registered at start of year so they can be brought together under a development name with similar aged players so they still get to compete at their own age group. Would save clubs leaving their own players out at certain age groups which must be demoralizing for them and their parents.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2017, 02:18:53 AM
Rossa sound a bit like them Cavan boys at underage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 08:34:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!
Hear u are to be nominated for the post of youth officer this year MR2.....seems your knowledge of the under-age activities up at the Row has caught the all seeing eyes of those who matter.. :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 16, 2017, 09:06:42 AM
Well done Rossa.  Better team won. 

Well done Lamh Dhearg.  Better team won.

Great craic in injury time.  Was just waiting on a GPS tracker getting lobbed over the fence. 

Glenavy pitch is one of the best in the county no doubt. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
And indeed more than a few Antrim titles as well as a couple of Provincial as well as a National up on the "Row" would be snatched away.....ffs knew u had no idea on juvenile activity but ........... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 16, 2017, 09:42:44 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
And indeed more than a few Antrim titles as well as a couple of Provincial as well as a National up on the "Row" would be snatched away.....ffs knew u had no idea on juvenile activity but ........... 8)

Dont be hard on him CB. I have absolutely no doubts at all that all those postcode lottery winners are still around the club, helping with underage, paying memberships and buying lotto tickets each week. First men on the stage at youth presentations and  love mucking in with some DIY around the clubhouse and changing rooms.  Storm Ophelia is to blame for those condemned stands and changing rooms, not lack of funds or volunteers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 16, 2017, 09:44:40 AM
Well done Lamh Dhearg though - really thought their level has went up several levels this year. Looked focused, fit and very hungry which is a great way to be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
And indeed more than a few Antrim titles as well as a couple of Provincial as well as a National up on the "Row" would be snatched away.....ffs knew u had no idea on juvenile activity but ........... 8)

Clutching at straws lad  ;D, if that is all you've got to deflect a seriously underwhelming performance from the SW then ho ahead have a smile lol! On a serious note, any retirements up Toome direction?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
And indeed more than a few Antrim titles as well as a couple of Provincial as well as a National up on the "Row" would be snatched away.....ffs knew u had no idea on juvenile activity but ........... 8)

Clutching at straws lad  ;D, if that is all you've got to deflect a seriously underwhelming performance from the SW then ho ahead have a smile lol! On a serious note, any retirements up Toome direction?
Think another one for me MR2......no retirements ....starting back in gym November.....Big Mc Kerman arriving back from Oz.....and a new signing imminent..but keep that one to itself... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.

were from North Antrim  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 11:25:30 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
And indeed more than a few Antrim titles as well as a couple of Provincial as well as a National up on the "Row" would be snatched away.....ffs knew u had no idea on juvenile activity but ........... 8)

Clutching at straws lad  ;D, if that is all you've got to deflect a seriously underwhelming performance from the SW then ho ahead have a smile lol! On a serious note, any retirements up Toome direction?
Think another one for me MR2......no retirements ....starting back in gym November.....Big Mc Kerman arriving back from Oz.....and a new signing imminent..but keep that one to itself... ;)


November probably too early, peak far too soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 11:25:30 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2017, 07:07:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 15, 2017, 11:34:17 PM
Great to see a st endas man lifting the Senior trophy. Entering the SW was best thing that happened them.  SW thriving!
Pitch and referee! Sure it's a winner! Oh how the one year mighty have fallen!

Dont forget a SW man lifted the trophy too. Forgot transfers is a sore spot. Sorry. It doesnt make those wins any less real. Honest.

Don't be telling CB about the transfers, you'd be taking the last two away
And indeed more than a few Antrim titles as well as a couple of Provincial as well as a National up on the "Row" would be snatched away.....ffs knew u had no idea on juvenile activity but ........... 8)

Clutching at straws lad  ;D, if that is all you've got to deflect a seriously underwhelming performance from the SW then ho ahead have a smile lol! On a serious note, any retirements up Toome direction?
Think another one for me MR2......no retirements ....starting back in gym November.....Big Mc Kerman arriving back from Oz.....and a new signing imminent..but keep that one to itself... ;)


November probably too early, peak far too soon
Could well be rite there......but aiming for the retention of the league title... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 05, 2016, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 05, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
The West's Awake, The West's Awake!

So is the South West in general. Clean sweep of championships including Minor, U-21A&B, Junior, Intermediate, Senior Reserve and Senior.

Unprecedented. A really good chance most of us won't ever see this again in our lifetimes.


Gort Na Mona won the reserve shield.

Say nothing though, City GAA is where it's all happening.
Say nothing.

Say nothing.. Sure wasn't I correct? Want the 6 numbers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2017, 12:09:49 PM
Great response from city teams to be fair. Credit where it's due. For a strong Antrim we need both regions being competitive and producing their share of quality players.

The Football scene in Antrim has opened up again and the next few years could be interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 12:44:47 PM
I didn't think the standard was great this year but at least it's competitive now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.

were from North Antrim  ;D

Sure we are from North Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2017, 11:23:45 AM

Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.

were from North Antrim  ;D

Sure we are from North Armagh
And we are in South Derry......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 12:58:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2017, 12:09:49 PM
Great response from city teams to be fair. Credit where it's due. For a strong Antrim we need both regions being competitive and producing their share of quality players.

The Football scene in Antrim has opened up again and the next few years could be interesting.
How so BS.....see the same old contenders for senior championship.....possible new faces are Aghagallon..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 01:03:00 PM
The Johnnies and Lamhs are not the same faces in the slightest based on previous 16 years!

Plenty potential in the SW but Cargin the only team to win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2017, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2017, 11:23:45 AM

Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.

were from North Antrim  ;D

Sure we are from North Armagh
And we are in South Derry......

does this mean that North Antrim football in crisis due to us losing both finals on sat now? lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 01:28:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2017, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2017, 11:23:45 AM

Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Belfast team wins the Intermediate as well!! SW in crisis.

were from North Antrim  ;D

Sure we are from North Armagh
And we are in South Derry......

does this mean that North Antrim football in crisis due to us losing both finals on sat now? lol

Your above Ballycastle so no.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Last I read on twitter they were up the hill drinking...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 02:15:37 PM
It's great getting a day off school all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!

Multi media highlights everything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
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Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!

Multi media highlights everything

Social Media is a dangerous tool.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!

Multi media highlights everything

Social Media is a dangerous tool.

Yeah, so glad it wasn't a feature when I was young, bad enough making a dick of yourself on here ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!

Multi media highlights everything

Social Media is a dangerous tool.

Yeah, so glad it wasn't a feature when I was young, bad enough making a dick of yourself on here ;D

There is making a dick of yourself on here and then there is this. Absolute scumbags.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!

Multi media highlights everything

Social Media is a dangerous tool.

Yeah, so glad it wasn't a feature when I was young, bad enough making a dick of yourself on here ;D

There is making a dick of yourself on here and then there is this. Absolute scumbags.

Exactly - scum
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 16, 2017, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 16, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 16, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2017, 01:39:12 PM
Oh dear. Drink, disappointment, a serious lack of class and 04:40 snapchats are a very bad combination.
Some Johnnies boys will be nursing sore heads today. They should hang them in shame also.

Just saw the video .....disgusting behaviour

What happened?

I don't even want to talk about the contents of the song being sung. Absolute disgusting behaviour from a couple of low lives!!

Multi media highlights everything

Social Media is a dangerous tool.

Yeah, so glad it wasn't a feature when I was young, bad enough making a dick of yourself on here ;D

There is making a dick of yourself on here and then there is this. Absolute scumbags.





Disgusting. Anyone involved should have a ban from the GAA. Lowest of the low and would make the vile soccer chants look innocent. Sad day when our own GAA people behave like this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 16, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
singing about a dead Lamh Dhearg man - skunks and there club should boot them out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 16, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
singing about a dead Lamh Dhearg man - skunks and there club should boot them out

Oh dear!! Proper rotten.. how does it get to this??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2017, 04:06:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 16, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
singing about a dead Lamh Dhearg man - skunks and there club should boot them out

Oh dear!! Proper rotten.. how does it get to this??

Drink and a lack of respect for all those around you.

We have some arguments and slabbering on here, but this actually sickens my stomach. Disgusting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2017, 04:52:13 PM
Saw that and although I can banter with the best that goes well beyond the pale....disgusting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 16, 2017, 04:56:46 PM
Some ugly minds outs there. I thought being a Gael instilled a bit of manners into a boy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 16, 2017, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 16, 2017, 04:56:46 PM
Some ugly minds outs there. I thought being a Gael instilled a bit of manners into a boy.


It's always been my belief that this is one club where manners and respect are not as important as winning and bravado when rearing teams. It's only my opinion but from first hand experience that's what I have witnessed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 05:58:17 PM
Can't get over that. What sort of craic is there singing songs about a deceased Lamh Dherg man? Should be ashamed of themselves and as someone said their club should kick them out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 16, 2017, 06:26:07 PM
No chance their club will kick them out its not the first time and wont be the last st johns member to be so disrespectful. Lots of genuine first class gaa people in st johns but have always had a section of their supporters and players who let themselves down. Been lots of talk in previous times of serious foul play in respect of verbal abuse of a personal note on the pitch that the club quickly closed rank round . Now they will have no option but to hold their hands up and say sorry but thats the most anyone can expect. WONT BE GOOD ENOUGH THIS TIME ! shame on you .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 16, 2017, 08:51:12 PM
What r u all talkin abt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on October 16, 2017, 08:57:44 PM
Seen it .tramps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on October 16, 2017, 09:43:22 PM
Im not from antrim but I work with a few boys from st Teresa's and saw a clip in the work whatsapp group.This the type of behaviour you expect from loyalists. Name and shame those in it. If St. John's had any ounce of decency they'd ban the culprits and publicly distance themselves from it. Utter scumbags
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2017, 09:52:03 PM
Was sent this clip earlier. Embarrassed for those involved, we've all done stupid things with drink in but this is indefensible. Scumbags.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2017, 09:52:03 PM
Was sent this clip earlier. Embarrassed for those involved, we've all done stupid things with drink in but this is indefensible. Scumbags.

Phones are a dangerous thing to have when the drink is in but there is no excuse for that at all. What sort of craic is that to be having ffs. Lifetime bans! Would hope that it was just sc**bag supporters rather than the players or club officials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2017, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2017, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2017, 09:52:03 PM
Was sent this clip earlier. Embarrassed for those involved, we've all done stupid things with drink in but this is indefensible. Scumbags.

Phones are a dangerous thing to have when the drink is in but there is no excuse for that at all. What sort of craic is that to be having ffs. Lifetime bans! Would hope that it was just sc**bag supporters rather than the players or club officials.

I wouldn't be familiar enough with St Johns clubmen to pick the individuals out but I'm sure those within club circles would know the guilty parties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 16, 2017, 11:38:44 PM
Who won the Antrim U21 football championship or has it been finished up yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 17, 2017, 01:12:37 AM
Starting this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 18, 2017, 09:44:20 PM
Any word on whats happening with this money from Croke Park?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on October 19, 2017, 05:14:11 PM
Just seen that video totally disgusting the question now is what are St. John's and the county board going to do about it at least 7 senior footballers involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 19, 2017, 06:19:10 PM
Was speaking to a St. John's man about it a couple of days ago and he's completely gutted about it all. It would be wrong to blame the whole club but they would need to take some sort of action about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2017, 07:12:41 PM
This is a county matter if you consider that clips on Social Media/Wats App etc are the modern day equivalent of the back page of the Irish News

St Johns don't seem to have taken any quick decisive action on it unless I haven't heard .............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2017, 09:36:43 PM
While down did get to an ulster final last year i still think it's not a bad draw for us. Big ask but so is any ulster tie. I would fancy getting down as much as anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 19, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Agreed. Decent draw alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on October 19, 2017, 10:51:56 PM
While st johns as a club cant be held to blame over the video how they handle the situation that their players and members created will say alot about them as a club. Lets not pass judgement on the club until they pass judgement on the guilty party.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
When was the last time we got a home draw in Ulster... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2017, 02:00:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
When was the last time we got a home draw in Ulster... :'(

2010 v Tyrone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2017, 02:00:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
When was the last time we got a home draw in Ulster... :'(

2010 v Tyrone?
A lotta bad luck or perhaps not.... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
Forgot.....and who could blame me....Monaghan 2013... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2017, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
Forgot.....and who could blame me....Monaghan 2013... 8)

::)

And you say I've no idea..... Taxi
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 20, 2017, 07:27:42 PM
2013 v Monaghan. A low point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on October 21, 2017, 12:06:52 AM
You would need a home first before getting a home draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on October 23, 2017, 11:36:34 AM
Did anyone make yesterday's trials for a gander?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 11:50:56 AM
Rossa by all accounts were very impressive at the weekend..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on October 23, 2017, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 11:50:56 AM
Rossa by all accounts were very impressive at the weekend..

I was up at the Rossa game, pure quality from start to finish - nailed on for the u21's this year. Pub talk is St.Johns bad week about to get worse with a player from A/G receiving serious facial injuries from a dirty joe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on October 23, 2017, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 11:50:56 AM
Rossa by all accounts were very impressive at the weekend..

I was up at the Rossa game, pure quality from start to finish - nailed on for the u21's this year again. Pub talk is St.Johns bad week about to get worse with a player from A/G receiving serious facial injuries from a dirty joe.

Lovely!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on October 23, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on October 23, 2017, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 11:50:56 AM
Rossa by all accounts were very impressive at the weekend..

I was up at the Rossa game, pure quality from start to finish - nailed on for the u21's this year again. Pub talk is St.Johns bad week about to get worse with a player from A/G receiving serious facial injuries from a dirty joe.

Lovely!!!


is this a dirty joe?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dirty%20Joe (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dirty%20Joe)

Things have gotten out of hand if it is!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
What happens when you take the coaches instruction literally
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 23, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on October 23, 2017, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 23, 2017, 11:50:56 AM
Rossa by all accounts were very impressive at the weekend..

I was up at the Rossa game, pure quality from start to finish - nailed on for the u21's this year again. Pub talk is St.Johns bad week about to get worse with a player from A/G receiving serious facial injuries from a dirty joe.

Lovely!!!


is this a dirty joe?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dirty%20Joe (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dirty%20Joe)

Things have gotten out of hand if it is!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Wonder why the under-21 championship has to proceed as winter approaches......already behind schedule and possibly a Christmas date for the finals... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Wonder why the under-21 championship has to proceed as winter approaches......already behind schedule and possibly a Christmas date for the finals... 8)

Well sure it works in well with the college games the lads have and if they are in Ulster they they should be fit! What date would you prefer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2017, 03:56:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Wonder why the under-21 championship has to proceed as winter approaches......already behind schedule and possibly a Christmas date for the finals... 8)

Well sure it works in well with the college games the lads have and if they are in Ulster they they should be fit! What date would you prefer?

Does it not alternate spring and autumn with the hurling championship or has that been stopped?

Makes more sense to play the football at this time of the year anyway and give the hurling a bit of a chance of better weather earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2017, 03:56:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Wonder why the under-21 championship has to proceed as winter approaches......already behind schedule and possibly a Christmas date for the finals... 8)

Well sure it works in well with the college games the lads have and if they are in Ulster they they should be fit! What date would you prefer?

Does it not alternate spring and autumn with the hurling championship or has that been stopped?

Makes more sense to play the football at this time of the year anyway and give the hurling a bit of a chance of better weather earlier in the year.
Indeed you do read the mind of the CCC.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 05:47:44 PM
No date in that response CB.. come on no point complaining if you don't have a solution !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 05:47:44 PM
No date in that response CB.. come on no point complaining if you don't have a solution !
When the under-21 championship was revived back in the 80s MR2 if u do remember the recommendation was that it would start in early season/March in be concluded in a weekly progression until completion mid-April.
Such was indeed the case and indeed was a very successful venture.
Could we not go back to such.....unless the hurling folk do not like the idea :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2017, 08:35:52 PM
Seasons have started earlier for senior leagues, so I can't see that happening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 23, 2017, 08:45:14 PM
Is this not the best time of the U21 championship saying that the Ulster is at this time of the year as well. What would be the point in having it over with and then waiting 6 months before their next match in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
I wonder what Slaughtneil would say to this debate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
I wonder what Slaughtneil would say to this debate
Think they would say no.........do not think they participated in under-21 this year in Derry....... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
I wonder what Slaughtneil would say to this debate
Think they would say no.........do not think they participated in under-21 this year in Derry....... ;)

  :) .... I bet they weren't crying into their protein shakes about it though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2017, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
I wonder what Slaughtneil would say to this debate
Think they would say no.........do not think they participated in under-21 this year in Derry....... ;)

  :) .... I bet they weren't crying into their protein shakes about it though

Maybe their managers fund didnt extend to the u21's  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PMG1 on October 24, 2017, 10:07:23 AM
Any word of who won the U16 championship at the weekend is was it played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2017, 10:46:56 AM
Quote from: PMG1 on October 24, 2017, 10:07:23 AM
Any word of who won the U16 championship at the weekend is was it played?

Being played tonight in Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on October 24, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2017, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
I wonder what Slaughtneil would say to this debate
Think they would say no.........do not think they participated in under-21 this year in Derry....... ;)

  :) .... I bet they weren't crying into their protein shakes about it though


Maybe their managers fund didnt extend to the u21's  ;D

Bitchy lads......  ;D

I had to laugh when I saw McKinley along the line with their camogs and them playing Loughgeil. I don't know how you could do that, but I suppose coin is coin when you go down that path.

As for wee Micky, I did hear a few "come on the mcquillans" shouts, not sure if it was some of our lads or some of the Loughgeil ones who'd stayed.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2017, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2017, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
I wonder what Slaughtneil would say to this debate
Think they would say no.........do not think they participated in under-21 this year in Derry....... ;)

  :) .... I bet they weren't crying into their protein shakes about it though


Maybe their managers fund didnt extend to the u21's  ;D

Bitchy lads......  ;D

I had to laugh when I saw McKinley along the line with their camogs and them playing Loughgeil. I don't know how you could do that, but I suppose coin is coin when you go down that path.

As for wee Micky, I did hear a few "come on the mcquillans" shouts, not sure if it was some of our lads or some of the Loughgeil ones who'd stayed.

Bitchy no, a dig yes.

Said it on here before last year too, how much more would it mean to them if it was one of their own leading them there.

Will always ring that bit more hollow (maybe I am too set in it) for me because of this approach.

Plus Ive had my say on the situation in Ballycastle with two of their own involved.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 24, 2017, 10:09:31 PM
Another title gone to Belfast with St Brigids winning the U16 title.  Thats their 3rd in 4 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 10:28:54 PM
Well at least the reserve Championship is in the bag!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:13:10 AM
Night is darkest just before the dawn....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis

time to call an emergency meeting at the club and delete football and concentrate on hurling and camogie. lol

failing that we want to form a north antrim football league where we will not have any crisis talk  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis

time to call an emergency meeting at the club and delete football and concentrate on hurling and camogie. lol

failing that we want to form a north antrim football league where we will not have any crisis talk  ;D

Ballycastle, Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Glenravel, Ballymena all play NA hurling so thats a good idea lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis

time to call an emergency meeting at the club and delete football and concentrate on hurling and camogie. lol

failing that we want to form a north antrim football league where we will not have any crisis talk  ;D

Ballycastle, Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Glenravel, Ballymena all play NA hurling so thats a good idea lol

Though Ballycastle and Glenravel would be more N/A.. you can keep the rest..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis

time to call an emergency meeting at the club and delete football and concentrate on hurling and camogie. lol

failing that we want to form a north antrim football league where we will not have any crisis talk  ;D

Ballycastle, Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Glenravel, Ballymena all play NA hurling so thats a good idea lol

Though Ballycastle and Glenravel would be more N/A.. you can keep the rest..

St Endas could be classed as NA as they play under age hurling with the culchies and they also could be SW as they play SW football.  By that theory Burt and Dungiven are also NA teams... Thank god for the culchies eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis

time to call an emergency meeting at the club and delete football and concentrate on hurling and camogie. lol

failing that we want to form a north antrim football league where we will not have any crisis talk  ;D

Ballycastle, Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Glenravel, Ballymena all play NA hurling so thats a good idea lol

Though Ballycastle and Glenravel would be more N/A.. you can keep the rest..

St Endas could be classed as NA as they play under age hurling with the culchies and they also could be SW as they play SW football.  By that theory Burt and Dungiven are also NA teams... Thank god for the culchies eh?

Think we'll stick to maps, as with that logic you'll be saying Galway are from Leinster !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
South West crisis

time to call an emergency meeting at the club and delete football and concentrate on hurling and camogie. lol

failing that we want to form a north antrim football league where we will not have any crisis talk  ;D

Ballycastle, Rasharkin, Ahoghill, Creggan, Glenravel, Ballymena all play NA hurling so thats a good idea lol

Though Ballycastle and Glenravel would be more N/A.. you can keep the rest..

St Endas could be classed as NA as they play under age hurling with the culchies and they also could be SW as they play SW football.  By that theory Burt and Dungiven are also NA teams... Thank god for the culchies eh?

Think we'll stick to maps, as with that logic you'll be saying Galway are from Leinster !!

Well if Connacht hurling isn't up to scratch and they have to move, then they are a Leinster side!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
well if thats the case ya cant come to Belfast cause the SW is crap!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
well if thats the case ya cant come to Belfast cause the SW is crap!

I'm happy enough where I am.. Sure Ballyclare and Larne could start their own East Antrim league!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
well if thats the case ya cant come to Belfast cause the SW is crap!

I'm happy enough where I am.. Sure Ballyclare and Larne could start their own East Antrim league!

Larne did a wonderful job considering, and I hope they make a return, as for Ballyclare and Carrick, Doagh Straid you'd do well to get 15 Catholics... Newtownabbey, St Endas do a great job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 25, 2017, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
well if thats the case ya cant come to Belfast cause the SW is crap!

I'm happy enough where I am.. Sure Ballyclare and Larne could start their own East Antrim league!

Larne did a wonderful job considering, and I hope they make a return, as for Ballyclare and Carrick, Doagh Straid you'd do well to get 15 Catholics... Newtownabbey, St Endas do a great job
Where is Ballyclare.....any hurling there...or could u find a ref....? :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 25, 2017, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
well if thats the case ya cant come to Belfast cause the SW is crap!

I'm happy enough where I am.. Sure Ballyclare and Larne could start their own East Antrim league!

Larne did a wonderful job considering, and I hope they make a return, as for Ballyclare and Carrick, Doagh Straid you'd do well to get 15 Catholics... Newtownabbey, St Endas do a great job
Where is Ballyclare.....any hurling there...or could u find a ref....? :)

East Antrim, wouldnt know any refs from there, so if you are implying I live there you'd be wrong, or stupid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2017, 03:49:08 PM
Any word u17 and u20 county managers? seems very late to be without appointments being made (hope I haven't missed them!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 25, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
Lamh Dhearg being rated a 7/2 chance against Cavan Gaels on Sunday, surely this price is a joke club level in Antrim would be on a par if not stronger than club level in Cavan, if St Galls or Cargin had won Antrim they wouldn't have been going in 7/2 underdogs. I'm not saying Lamb Dhearg will win but they are a hell of a lot better than the prices the bookies are giving.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 25, 2017, 06:51:19 PM
Get on it quick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2017, 07:00:57 PM
They have probably seen the parties going on  ;D

Cavan gaels very experienced in ulster and lamhs not. Think the bookies may be right. Hope i am wrong though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 25, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Hear the SV may well have to open their eyes and look for a boarder.
Seems a contest for a major position is more than likely.... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2017, 09:28:02 PM
#LennyIn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 25, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Hear the SV may well have to open their eyes and look for a boarder.
Seems a contest for a major position is more than likely.... 8)

Riddler ! Spit the marbles out lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 25, 2017, 10:35:40 PM
Do not be impatient MR2......time will tell.. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 10:47:36 PM
Another "county title" of sorts heading to the SW possibly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 10:47:36 PM
Another "county title" of sorts heading to the SW possibly

Scor? Or Rounders?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on October 25, 2017, 11:55:42 PM
A challenge for the chairman's position
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 26, 2017, 07:19:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 10:47:36 PM
Another "county title" of sorts heading to the SW possibly

Scor? Or Rounders?

;D The Belfast rounders teams haven't fielded in ages. Crisis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2017, 07:42:30 AM
That surprise didn't last long!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 26, 2017, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 25, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
well if thats the case ya cant come to Belfast cause the SW is crap!

I'm happy enough where I am.. Sure Ballyclare and Larne could start their own East Antrim league!

Larne did a wonderful job considering, and I hope they make a return, as for Ballyclare and Carrick, Doagh Straid you'd do well to get 15 Catholics... Newtownabbey, St Endas do a great job


Larne are finished.Won't be coming back either.Shame,they have a great pitch.Hurling only FYI.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
was at their pitch a few years ago with our camogs playing Carnlough at it. nice pitch and great facilities up there. its a pity they never got back up and going again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
Took 40 odd years for them to get their pitch.Club never made it to 50.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 27, 2017, 10:46:13 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
Took 40 odd years for them to get their pitch.Club never made it to 50.

What happened to finish them ? Just a numbers game ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2017, 11:11:20 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 27, 2017, 10:46:13 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
Took 40 odd years for them to get their pitch.Club never made it to 50.

What happened to finish them ? Just a numbers game ?

Did the school move and that didnt help?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 27, 2017, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
Took 40 odd years for them to get their pitch.Club never made it to 50.

Ach, that's just grim  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 11:32:40 AM
If anything the amalgamation of the 3 schools (St Comgalls, Garron Tower, St Aloysuis) should have helped as pupils would have been actually aware that hurling exists and may have expressed an interest in taking up the game. In fact one of the first successful St Killians teams had 7 of 8 Larne lads on the panel.

One of the founders mentioned to me years ago that it wouldn't be the other side that would finish the club, it would be our own. Turned out he was right.

A combination of lack of promotion within primary schools who really didn't want to know (therefore lack of numbers), very few volunteers who would go into the schools (though there were a few diehard lads who devoted many hours), one or two stigmas attached to certain people in that club and the head as low as a Larne Catholic mentality which still exists, all contributed to their demise. One of two other reasons as well but that's the gist of it really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 27, 2017, 11:51:48 AM
larne and glenarm were playing as an amalgamation for a few years as st. mcnissis.

not sure if that is still going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 11:58:12 AM
Fell away.Lack of numbers at the Larne end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 27, 2017, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 11:32:40 AM
If anything the amalgamation of the 3 schools (St Comgalls, Garron Tower, St Aloysuis) should have helped as pupils would have been actually aware that hurling exists and may have expressed an interest in taking up the game. In fact one of the first successful St Killians teams had 7 of 8 Larne lads on the panel.

One of the founders mentioned to me years ago that it wouldn't be the other side that would finish the club, it would be our own. Turned out he was right.

A combination of lack of promotion within primary schools who really didn't want to know (therefore lack of numbers), very few volunteers who would go into the schools (though there were a few diehard lads who devoted many hours), one or two stigmas attached to certain people in that club and the head as low as a Larne Catholic mentality which still exists, all contributed to their demise. One of two other reasons as well but that's the gist of it really.

That's a total shame.

I always thought there was something seriously admirable about Laharna Og plowing away in fairly hostile territory through the (really) bad years.

If anything, it just shows how precarious a small club's position can be. All it takes is a bubble of players/mentors/officials to retire or move on for whatever reason and things can just collapse very quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2017, 01:07:41 PM
Yeah the real GAA heroes for me are those type of men in small clubs

Shame it didn't work out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
2 of the founding members were actually from your neck of the woods Cloot.

Didn't have it easy in the early days, not on the same scale as Ardoyne or St Endas's but total sectarianism from the local council right from the start.

A few times land was sought to build a pitch as the council flatly refused to let them play on any council pitches. Planning permission denied each time so they had to buy the Feystown pitch with Glenarm on a 50/50 basis.

Shortly before their own pitch was opened they had managed to get a decent underage structure going, couple of lads making county development squads and the county minors. When a lot of these lads went on to university there wasn't the parochial loyalty which exists among other clubs (Larne not an urban nor rural club as such) and the real struggle for numbers began at senior level which eventually slid into oblivion and they haven't fielded in 5 years.

Underage the amalgamation with Glenarm didn't work out for various reasons but mainly due to lack of numbers and interest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 27, 2017, 01:39:26 PM
It all went downhill after Dr. Christian Jessen & "Embarrassing Bodies" went there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on October 27, 2017, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 27, 2017, 01:39:26 PM
It all went downhill after Dr. Christian Jessen & "Embarrassing Bodies" went there.

😂 The humiliation was too much.
Was a great thing keeping a GAA club going in the heartlands of Sammy wilson and the ilk.
Ballymena really took off as a club with their new facilities in similar circumstances. Prior to that on their old pitch you would more likely be tackled by a branch than a player. Bigger Catholic population
helped too, obviously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 27, 2017, 05:02:54 PM
I remember playing for our reserves as a youngster against Larne and one of the subs had a pair of golf shoes on, with spikes, and a golf glove to help in the wet conditions  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 27, 2017, 07:18:00 PM
Aye,no problem getting a team out for a Channel 4 program,ha ha.Ballymena have done brilliant this past few years but they had serious problems getting permission for their pitch and club house.Thing about Ballymena is that the Nationalist population is located in the north end of the town and it was easier to foster a community spirit.They seem to have been really promoting football with their U14's winning the football Feile a few years back.Their hurling team dropped out of the All County leagues but I think they're playing in the Z Squad N Antrim league.In Larne there is no community spirit or parochial loyalty as a result of the council's policy not to house nationalists in the one area so they were scattered around the town and were easy targets for various loyalist factions.Result-keep the head as low.The lad with the golf glove was probably the keeper.Not sure about the golf shoes though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 28, 2017, 02:03:47 PM
Today's Irish News doesn't give LD much of a chance tomorrow but not sure on what basis - Cavan champions haven't won a match in Ulster Club Championship in 9 years and I'm sure the Antrim Champions have! LD beat St Galls, Creggan and St Johns so they won the Antrim title the hard way.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 28, 2017, 02:03:47 PM
Today's Irish News doesn't give LD much of a chance tomorrow but not sure on what basis - Cavan champions haven't won a match in Ulster Club Championship in 9 years and I'm sure the Antrim Champions have! LD beat St Galls, Creggan and St Johns so they won the Antrim title the hard way.........

Gaels no mugs... club football in Ulster for them is normal, Lamhs could win it but home draw and experience should be enough for Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: on the hop on October 28, 2017, 06:22:36 PM
completely off the point, but I have a facebook page called gaa programme collectors. this year I am trying to collect the 70 odd county final programmes throughout the country. doing well so far but I am finding it hard to source a lot of them in ulster but especially the Antrim hurling or football ones. looking for any advice or help where they can be got. I can be contacted through the Facebook page. thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
Lamhs still celebrating
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: our_fella on October 29, 2017, 04:10:52 PM
St Brigids beat by 6. Offered nothing but frees basically. What was wrong with Dowling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
and i thought LD a good chance today! :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2017, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
and i thought LD a good chance today! :o

I did warn you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
Following on from the Larne story i rem helping the lads in Ballymoney out when they first got started. me and few other lads from Dunloy went in and trained with them back and forwards and i ended up playing the first year for them in the league. I didnt stay after that because to me they were all treating it as a joke and none of them really took it seriously. They had a lot of lads who played soccer and they all seemed to play when it suited them.

It was a struggle for them to play games and had no pitch at all. they played their games in Our Lady of Lourdes school in the town. A good bunch of lads but to be honest it was never going to work for them. Much the same as Larne in that they were playing in an extremely loyalist town that was completely opposed to this even being in 'their' town. Oran Kearney played with us in there for the first season when he was at Linfield along with a few other lads who kicked soccer.

They prob needed a lot of help to keep them going but as far as i know it wasnt forth coming. It was kind of inevitable that they would fold.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
Following on from the Larne story i rem helping the lads in Ballymoney out when they first got started. me and few other lads from Dunloy went in and trained with them back and forwards and i ended up playing the first year for them in the league. I didnt stay after that because to me they were all treating it as a joke and none of them really took it seriously. They had a lot of lads who played soccer and they all seemed to play when it suited them.

It was a struggle for them to play games and had no pitch at all. they played their games in Our Lady of Lourdes school in the town. A good bunch of lads but to be honest it was never going to work for them. Much the same as Larne in that they were playing in an extremely loyalist town that was completely opposed to this even being in 'their' town. Oran Kearney played with us in there for the first season when he was at Linfield along with a few other lads who kicked soccer.

They prob needed a lot of help to keep them going but as far as i know it wasnt forth coming. It was kind of inevitable that they would fold.

I remember playing up in Ballymoney with our thirds in that school! they made me look good at 35 and at football too!, but as you said DR, they played with no seriousness at all and they barely had 15, mainly soccer lads, but at the time i was chuffed that Ballymoney made the effort, and while it fell apart it was worth giving it a go... was an aul boy that looked after them DR nice fell, think he even togged out for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
aye Billy Hogg he was called. A nice man and he really cared about the club and wanted it to do well but the locals never ever bought into it. We always joke about Ballymoney catholics and not being real at all and you would of seen them standing with their mates in the town at loyalist band parades. The GAA was never going to make any inroads to that area at.

I played in the their first ever win, thats my claim to fame lol at home to Antrim reserves in the school pitch. All the clubs we played that season were all brilliant to Ballymoney when they travelled to them. Very welcoming and encouraging to them.

I packed it in after the championship defeat to Ballycastle in the Junior. They didnt train before it and didnt treat the competition with any respect in my opinion. Coming from i was used to that i found very hard to work with so decided that one year would do. Bear in mind i was in my 30's and had quit playing for my own club a fair while before lol

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 30, 2017, 10:48:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
Following on from the Larne story i rem helping the lads in Ballymoney out when they first got started. me and few other lads from Dunloy went in and trained with them back and forwards and i ended up playing the first year for them in the league. I didnt stay after that because to me they were all treating it as a joke and none of them really took it seriously. They had a lot of lads who played soccer and they all seemed to play when it suited them.

It was a struggle for them to play games and had no pitch at all. they played their games in Our Lady of Lourdes school in the town. A good bunch of lads but to be honest it was never going to work for them. Much the same as Larne in that they were playing in an extremely loyalist town that was completely opposed to this even being in 'their' town. Oran Kearney played with us in there for the first season when he was at Linfield along with a few other lads who kicked soccer.

They prob needed a lot of help to keep them going but as far as i know it wasnt forth coming. It was kind of inevitable that they would fold.

I remember playing up in Ballymoney with our thirds in that school! they made me look good at 35 and at football too!, but as you said DR, they played with no seriousness at all and they barely had 15, mainly soccer lads, but at the time i was chuffed that Ballymoney made the effort, and while it fell apart it was worth giving it a go... was an aul boy that looked after them DR nice fell, think he even togged out for them
rtstewart

DR if you look down the road and see what was achieved in Coleraine who for many years struggled. Know they have Portstewart which would be a bit more understanding and there were a few guys from a strong GAA background who were around the triangle area plus the university helped as well.  There would have been  a few goes at having a club in Aghadowey a number of years back as well. Maybe an initiative in around the Ballymoney / Aghadowey area ....know they are different counties. Long hard road though .....If you look at Coleraine and Antrim Town who have shown good improvement over recent years it can be done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2017, 11:11:12 AM
def, ive been down at Coleraines pitch a few times with our camogs and they have a good set up. In fairness its not in coleraine and its more Portstewart. That would be a more moderate area and well mixed so they would of always stood a good chance of getting the club up and going and getting plenty of interest in the underage teams.
It def can be done but you need a driving force behind it and the support of the local schools
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2017, 11:11:12 AM
def, ive been down at Coleraines pitch a few times with our camogs and they have a good set up. In fairness its not in coleraine and its more Portstewart. That would be a more moderate area and well mixed so they would of always stood a good chance of getting the club up and going and getting plenty of interest in the underage teams.
It def can be done but you need a driving force behind it and the support of the local schools

Look the huge driving force behind must clubs at the start has always been a mad Irish Priest or Christian Brother in the local school, you never had a choice just handed a hurl or ball and told to play, very if not impossible to get that going again as their influence within the parish and schools was far greater than it is today.... once that tradition was set up in that area then it was easier to maintain...

only a few clubs have been able to do that and in most cases its a split within a parish or town that has developed another 'new' club though with older generations of parents/players and so on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 30, 2017, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
aye Billy Hogg he was called. A nice man and he really cared about the club and wanted it to do well but the locals never ever bought into it. We always joke about Ballymoney catholics and not being real at all and you would of seen them standing with their mates in the town at loyalist band parades. The GAA was never going to make any inroads to that area at.

I played in the their first ever win, thats my claim to fame lol at home to Antrim reserves in the school pitch. All the clubs we played that season were all brilliant to Ballymoney when they travelled to them. Very welcoming and encouraging to them.

I packed it in after the championship defeat to Ballycastle in the Junior. They didnt train before it and didnt treat the competition with any respect in my opinion. Coming from i was used to that i found very hard to work with so decided that one year would do. Bear in mind i was in my 30's and had quit playing for my own club a fair while before lol



Actually think that lad Hogg is originally from Larne. Family members involved in other activities not too friendly towards the GAA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2017, 11:59:30 AM
yeah i knew his back ground. it was a nice idea from them all to try and get a team up and going but they prob should of started at the underage and worked their way up.

I rem going to Lisburn with our minors to play them. they had fellas in Bermuda shorts, soccer shorts and socks and basically were pretty poor at the game. that was 22 years ago and they are still going strong and have made good progress over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 30, 2017, 02:37:00 PM
I thought Ballymoney faded away after a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 30, 2017, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 30, 2017, 10:48:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
Following on from the Larne story i rem helping the lads in Ballymoney out when they first got started. me and few other lads from Dunloy went in and trained with them back and forwards and i ended up playing the first year for them in the league. I didnt stay after that because to me they were all treating it as a joke and none of them really took it seriously. They had a lot of lads who played soccer and they all seemed to play when it suited them.

It was a struggle for them to play games and had no pitch at all. they played their games in Our Lady of Lourdes school in the town. A good bunch of lads but to be honest it was never going to work for them. Much the same as Larne in that they were playing in an extremely loyalist town that was completely opposed to this even being in 'their' town. Oran Kearney played with us in there for the first season when he was at Linfield along with a few other lads who kicked soccer.

They prob needed a lot of help to keep them going but as far as i know it wasnt forth coming. It was kind of inevitable that they would fold.

I remember playing up in Ballymoney with our thirds in that school! they made me look good at 35 and at football too!, but as you said DR, they played with no seriousness at all and they barely had 15, mainly soccer lads, but at the time i was chuffed that Ballymoney made the effort, and while it fell apart it was worth giving it a go... was an aul boy that looked after them DR nice fell, think he even togged out for them
rtstewart

DR if you look down the road and see what was achieved in Coleraine who for many years struggled. Know they have Portstewart which would be a bit more understanding and there were a few guys from a strong GAA background who were around the triangle area plus the university helped as well.  There would have been  a few goes at having a club in Aghadowey a number of years back as well. Maybe an initiative in around the Ballymoney / Aghadowey area ....know they are different counties. Long hard road though .....If you look at Coleraine and Antrim Town who have shown good improvement over recent years it can be done

Club in Antrim Town actually folded for 5 or 6 years at the end of the 90's early 2000's. They used to play on the pitch behind the primary school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 30, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
All 3 Antrim representatives gone in the first round of the senior, intermediate and junior Ulster championships, all timid exits also. 

Is Antrim club football the weakest in Ulster do we think?  Christ, even Fermanagh teams are winning some games in Ulster, Derrygonnelly in senior and Ballnaleck in Junior. 

Cargin couldn't make a dent in Ulster this past 2 years and went out with whimpers.  Think Aghagallon done ok last year, maybe won a game and battled well in the semi in intermediate?
Glenravel scored 2 measly points last year in their first round Junior Ulster clash I think vs the Rock of Tyrone who got to the AI final from memory? 

Is the standard at an all time low?  Long live the kings St Galls?  Do Antrim need a strong St Galls?  Looks like it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2017, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 30, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
All 3 Antrim representatives gone in the first round of the senior, intermediate and junior Ulster championships, all timid exits also. 

Is Antrim club football the weakest in Ulster do we think?  Christ, even Fermanagh teams are winning some games in Ulster, Derrygonnelly in senior and Ballnaleck in Junior. 

Cargin couldn't make a dent in Ulster this past 2 years and went out with whimpers.  Think Aghagallon done ok last year, maybe won a game and battled well in the semi in intermediate?
Glenravel scored 2 measly points last year in their first round Junior Ulster clash I think vs the Rock of Tyrone who got to the AI final from memory? 

Is the standard at an all time low?  Long live the kings St Galls?  Do Antrim need a strong St Galls?  Looks like it.

There's a lot to be said for tradition in Ulster, course you'll have teams like S'Neil who buck the trend but in the main clubs like Naomhgall and The Johnnies (believe it or not) have that in their club... for whatever reason these type clubs in their county do well once in the competition..

Cavan Gaels have years of experience in this competition and as much as I'd have liked to see the Antrim winners do well I could only see one winner yesterday... For Lamhs I feel they did what they needed to win their first final on the field since 71!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: east down gael on October 30, 2017, 09:27:01 PM
Depends how you measure standard of football really.lamh derg would have been beat by kilcoo,kilcar,slaughtneil,scotstown or omagh by similar if not worse scorelines.but the top four or five teams in antrim are at a similar standard.kilcoo,slaughtneil,cavan gaels and scotstown are at a fairly higher standard than most if not all in their own counties.so kilcoo being possibly the second best team in Ulster does not mean the standard in down football is extremely high,they have won 6 in a row after all.
  That said,i wouldn't say the standard in Antrim is as good as it should be.at intermediate and junior it is very low.maybe that's because of the structures for championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 30, 2017, 09:50:16 PM
I think the overall standard in Antrim has definitely dropped over the last couple of years but at least it's competitive. Also, the Ulster Championship has been won by only a few counties over the past 10/15 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2017, 10:13:07 PM
Maybe junior east down gael but not intermediate.

Cavan gaels have loads of boys with loads of experience. Takes a few years to get that in ulster. Thing is hard to see a team dominating now so not sure how a team from antrim gets it.

Our senior clubs (well st galls!) have performed above our county's standing. We are probably ninth in ulster at the minute so having the weakest club teams not that big a shock. It would take a team to dominate antrimto have any chance in ulster i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2017, 07:09:32 AM
Agree fully ITG. St Galls the only Antrim club to make any headway in Ulster and they did it regularly. Superb footballers the like of we probably wont see again in one (Antrim) club again in our lifetime.

The hammering Lamhs got is a scary reminder of the standard out there. Had Finucan not been in such good form there could have been 20 points in it!  So our senior clubs have a lot of work to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2017, 08:02:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2017, 07:09:32 AM
Agree fully ITG. St Galls the only Antrim club to make any headway in Ulster and they did it regularly. Superb footballers the like of we probably wont see again in one (Antrim) club again in our lifetime.

The hammering Lamhs got is a scary reminder of the standard out there. Had Finucan not been in such good form there could have been 20 points in it!  So our senior clubs have a lot of work to do.

But Lamhs actually take it seriously? Our prep for Antrim Championship was playing the likes of Carrickmore, Omagh Dub teams and Derry teams.... hoping to win Antrim but preparing for Ulster, it wasn't arrogance just good planning, the sevens also gave confidence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 31, 2017, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2017, 08:02:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2017, 07:09:32 AM
Agree fully ITG. St Galls the only Antrim club to make any headway in Ulster and they did it regularly. Superb footballers the like of we probably wont see again in one (Antrim) club again in our lifetime.

The hammering Lamhs got is a scary reminder of the standard out there. Had Finucan not been in such good form there could have been 20 points in it!  So our senior clubs have a lot of work to do.

But Lamhs actually take it seriously? Our prep for Antrim Championship was playing the likes of Carrickmore, Omagh Dub teams and Derry teams.... hoping to win Antrim but preparing for Ulster, it wasn't arrogance just good planning, the sevens also gave confidence

In fairness to LD, winning Antrim was the main thing for them as its been so long and they have fallen short a few times, anything after that was a bonus.  When St. Galls where dominating Antrim, it was just a matter of making sure they won the championship so they could get into Ulster which is where they really wanted to be.

When you have a different club winning the senior championship each year within a county, those teams when they go to Ulster tend not to do well.  Amazingly, only one club from Tyrone has won an Ulster Club championship but in Tyrone, they tend to have a different senior championship winner ever year, no one clube seems to dominate.

Scotstown, Kilcoo, Slaughtneil have all dominated their respective counties this past number of years and therefore have done well in Ulster since.  Even Derrygonnelly after winning the 3 in a row in Fermanagh have managed to win an Ulster Club game by beating Armagh Harps at the weekend.  A bit like LD, Armagh Harps would have been thrilled to win the Armagh championship it had been that long so anything after that in the Ulster Championship is again a bonus.

Kilcar have the potential to maybe buck that trend this year as they have the talent at their disposal but they also have the talent to maybe go on a dominate Donegal for the next number of years also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2017, 05:30:56 PM
Anything happen with the St. John's thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 31, 2017, 06:38:42 PM
Jeez why is it a surprise to some how poor we are when three teams have shared the major trophies (including the unwanted div one league title) in the past twenty years????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 31, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
No chat here following the Peadar Heffron interview?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2017, 09:15:56 PM
The St Johns thing - I heard they gave 2 lads 30 hours community/club service - anything but bar them! spineless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2017, 09:15:56 PM
The St Johns thing - I heard they gave 2 lads 30 hours community/club service - anything but bar them! spineless

I heard that both clubs came to an agreement ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 01, 2017, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2017, 09:15:56 PM
The St Johns thing - I heard they gave 2 lads 30 hours community/club service - anything but bar them! spineless

I heard that both clubs came to an agreement ?

I have heard contrary to both those statements and that it is still on going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 01, 2017, 09:29:31 PM
Hear that this year's county convention will require the assistance of tellers........gonna be a lotta counting ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Come on tell all? We are wining the trophies and the SW on top of the rumours!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 02, 2017, 07:38:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Come on tell all? We are wining the trophies and the SW on top of the rumours!!
Will relay rumour when u release info on those trophies on way to Milltown MR2.......go on blow that trumpet :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2017, 07:51:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 02, 2017, 07:38:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Come on tell all? We are wining the trophies and the SW on top of the rumours!!
Will relay rumour when u release info on those trophies on way to Milltown MR2.......go on blow that trumpet :)

That trumpet is well blown!! Tripping over them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 02, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2017, 07:51:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 02, 2017, 07:38:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Come on tell all? We are wining the trophies and the SW on top of the rumours!!
Will relay rumour when u release info on those trophies on way to Milltown MR2.......go on blow that trumpet :)

That trumpet is well blown!! Tripping over them
[/quote
Ah so u disregard the words of Percy Shelley.....?

'Ozymandias'......can't google....u need a link or indeed explanation just ask ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2017, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 02, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2017, 07:51:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 02, 2017, 07:38:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Come on tell all? We are wining the trophies and the SW on top of the rumours!!
Will relay rumour when u release info on those trophies on way to Milltown MR2.......go on blow that trumpet :)

That trumpet is well blown!! Tripping over them
[/quote
Ah so u disregard the words of Percy Shelley.....?

'Ozymandias'......can't google....u need a link or indeed explanation just ask ;)

No link required, I'm bored
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cca on November 02, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 01, 2017, 09:29:31 PM
Hear that this year's county convention will require the assistance of tellers........gonna be a lotta counting ;)

I heard that CD will be "challenged"; any other major competitions? Obviously Ass Treasurer is vacant....any other vacancies?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
chairman's role will be challenged. ive not a clue who else is intending to stand but all is not well at the top. serious bit of bitching going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 02, 2017, 05:32:53 PM
All is not good. Expect a few contested positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 02, 2017, 06:17:27 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on November 02, 2017, 05:32:53 PM
All is not good. Expect a few contested positions.
Is a bit of competition not good? This county board isn't pulling up trees....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2017, 08:49:12 AM
i would love to know for what reason all the clubs in antrims allocation of all Ireland tickets was cut this year for. when i asked the question we were told that it was down to the fall in our clubs membership.

Im the club registrar and i could confirm that were down about 30 odd members but when i looked back to 2 years before we had the same membership nos as then and received the same amount of tickets as we had the year before. therefore to say this was complete nonsense.

i asked a few other lads in other clubs and they confirmed that theirs was reduced and low and behold they were told a different reason for their allocation being cut. therefore the reasoning behind our cut in allocation was pure lies.

so who got all our clubs tickets?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2017, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 03, 2017, 08:49:12 AM
i would love to know for what reason all the clubs in antrims allocation of all Ireland tickets was cut this year for. when i asked the question we were told that it was down to the fall in our clubs membership.

Im the club registrar and i could confirm that were down about 30 odd members but when i looked back to 2 years before we had the same membership nos as then and received the same amount of tickets as we had the year before. therefore to say this was complete nonsense.

i asked a few other lads in other clubs and they confirmed that theirs was reduced and low and behold they were told a different reason for their allocation being cut. therefore the reasoning behind our cut in allocation was pure lies.

so who got all our clubs tickets?

In short, sponsors.

Hence one of the fall outs in SV.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2017, 09:27:35 AM
thats what i thought myself. no surprise the business forum is up and running and our allocation of tickets drops. hard working vols who give time up for nothing lose their allocation due to a bit of money coming in. the fact that we were told a blatant lie about why our allocation was cut is what annoys me more.

theres decent guys in the top level who want to do a good job but sadly there are few amongst a bad bunch

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 03, 2017, 02:46:58 PM
My own clubs membership increased but All Ireland tickets allocation stayed the same. When raised, we were informed the same as yourself. Sponsors need looked after was the reply.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 03, 2017, 02:54:45 PM
The SW primary schools got their allocation taken away as well. A slap on the mouth for the schools after putting a lot of effort into coaching throughout the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
I don't believe any of the above. SV are making great strides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2017, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 03, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
I don't believe any of the above. SV are making great strides.
Could you outline the great strides you refer to?
Only big advance I can see is the Business Forum but details of how much it has raised and where the money has gone are not known....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2017, 09:51:33 PM
Sponsors put money in, people on forums don't... I lost out on this and I totally agree... put the money in you need to get something out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 03, 2017, 10:26:40 PM
To the detrament off the club volunteer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2017, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2017, 09:51:33 PM
Sponsors put money in, people on forums don't... I lost out on this and I totally agree... put the money in you need to get something out!
So all those volunteers who give up their valuable time and endless hours in service to their club (s) should stand aside to ensure those who can afford to make donation (tax deductible) in most instances, move to the head of the queue MR2.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2017, 09:26:33 AM
Ive refereed, managed, helped out for many years, I didn't get a ticket this year,  I wanted one badly and didn't get one...

sponsors put a serious amount of money in to facilitate the county set up the same set up that a few here run down all the time, if I was a sponsor I'd be looking some sort of gift out of it... yes clubmen up and down the county work hard at it also but they don't do it just for a ticket on All Ireland day surely? If that's their sole purpose then that's a bit strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 04, 2017, 10:15:43 AM
Stop painting it in bold colours MR2. Its just another nugde in the wrong direction. Volunteers are the lowest class in the GAA society and these decisions simply widen the schism
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2017, 10:17:32 AM
So ur logic would suggest that the blood sweat and sometimes tears of all those volunteers does not equate to the tax deductible donations made by those, many of whom never attend a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2017, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 04, 2017, 10:17:32 AM
So ur logic would suggest that the blood sweat and sometimes tears of all those volunteers does not equate to the tax deductible donations made by those, many of whom never attend a game.

Are you totally stupid? Tax deductible ? Whether they claim it back is irrelevant... would you prefer to not have sponsors?  your logic for supporting all the county teams is to not have sponsors? How does that work? Next you'll be claiming that the kids don't get fed cause there is no sponsors!

I've aleady said I've put in a shift for club and county and didn't get a ticket because of more sponsors getting them and club allocation was reduced! Wasn't happy at all, yes skull people who put the effort in are short changed sometimes, but doubt very much they do it for a ticket! They do it cause they love it, a lovely bonus would be a chance of an All Ireland final ticket but hey there is only 80 odd thousand getting them and when your county can't even get into the top tier you've even less a chance on it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 05, 2017, 08:58:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2017, 08:48:22 PM
So, after today's results, all the SW hopes lie with Cargin in the U21.

I'd nearly be supporting them, just to keep the thing alive outside of Belfast.

Is that the correct score for Glenravel?
Glad to have u aboard HS......maybe need ur help, but a Cosmopolitan look can be good.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Will Croke have to step in and help the SW?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 06, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Will Croke have to step in and help the SW?

Actually, that was the point I was trying to make last month, if Antrim are going to CP for funding, it should be for the Belfast, it should be for the whole of Antrim.

SWA, SA and NA all need to raise our game if we want to compete at national level. And that can only be achieved with an Antrim solution, not a section of Antrim solution
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2017, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Will Croke have to step in and help the SW?

were still keeping the NA crisis button from being pressed just yet  8) ;D

U16b county champions yesterday and into the semi final of the U21b football. serious outfit lol

To be fair it was a good game between ourselves and Ballymena despite the fact the pitch wasnt in good shape. when you see how many times lads were falling over from both sides it was lucky no one got hurt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 06, 2017, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 06, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Will Croke have to step in and help the SW?

Actually, that was the point I was trying to make last month, if Antrim are going to CP for funding, it should be for the Belfast, it should be for the whole of Antrim.

SWA, SA and NA all need to raise our game if we want to compete at national level. And that can only be achieved with an Antrim solution, not a section of Antrim solution
Even MR2's sat nav has no idea where the South West is located..... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2017, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 06, 2017, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 06, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Will Croke have to step in and help the SW?

Actually, that was the point I was trying to make last month, if Antrim are going to CP for funding, it should be for the Belfast, it should be for the whole of Antrim.

SWA, SA and NA all need to raise our game if we want to compete at national level. And that can only be achieved with an Antrim solution, not a section of Antrim solution
Even MR2's sat nav has no idea where the South West is located..... ;)

christ you were looking to claim St Endas, Glenravel, and Ballycastle if they had won a match this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 06, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2017, 08:48:22 PM
Is that the correct score for Glenravel?

Surely that was a failure to field?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 06, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2017, 08:48:22 PM
Is that the correct score for Glenravel?

Surely that was a failure to field?

Speaking to the bro in law this morning, he's married and living up there, says its correct. They travelled with 18 players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 06, 2017, 01:14:40 PM
Even MR2's sat nav has no idea where the South West is located..... ;)
[/quote]

I can recall having a conversation with MR, when he was stuck in traffic outside the Protestant Hall on the Galgorm Road in Ballymena. A great place to discuss GAA affairs, indeed. The man clearly knows his way to the South West. Not to mention knowing his way round the rulebook!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2017, 01:55:22 PM
Knows his way 'around' a rule book?  ;D who needs rules, blow the whistle and let her rip!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cca on November 06, 2017, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 31, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
No chat here following the Peadar Heffron interview?
A very wishy-washy so-called statement if you ask my opinion. Carefully worded to say that "club members" visited Peadar's family after the incident; Peadar didn't deny that; what Club conveniently "forgot" to include was that those same members made it clear to Peadar's family that they were there in a personal capacity and NOT on behalf of the Club.
Shameful treatment of a loyal, hard-working member; and for anyone that might say times were different - the Club could now come out and say that, and that they're sorry??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cca on November 06, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 02, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
chairman's role will be challenged. ive not a clue who else is intending to stand but all is not well at the top. serious bit of bitching going on.

Has the PMcC/SK "argument" been sorted out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2017, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: cca on November 06, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 02, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
chairman's role will be challenged. ive not a clue who else is intending to stand but all is not well at the top. serious bit of bitching going on.

Has the PMcC/SK "argument" been sorted out?

yeah from what i heard tho it sounded like it was going to turn into a hash
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 06, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2017, 01:55:22 PM
Knows his way 'around' a rule book?  ;D who needs rules, blow the whistle and let her rip!

You were fond enough of trying to teach me the rulebook, when you were supposed to be playing & I was supposed to be officiating!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2017, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on November 06, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2017, 01:55:22 PM
Knows his way 'around' a rule book?  ;D who needs rules, blow the whistle and let her rip!

You were fond enough of trying to teach me the rulebook, when you were supposed to be playing & I was supposed to be officiating!!!

Ach sure you know, players and supporters know best!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
u21b game between ourselves and Portglenone has been moved to next tuesday night over in Portglenone at 8pm. we have the Ulster minor hurling semi final on sat plus our gala dinner sat night so fair dues to them for moving it.

Doesnt matter that its in their ground at all, only a few more mile away from rasharkin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 07, 2017, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 07, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
u21b game between ourselves and Portglenone has been moved to next tuesday night over in Portglenone at 8pm. we have the Ulster minor hurling semi final on sat plus our gala dinner sat night so fair dues to them for moving it.

Doesnt matter that its in their ground at all, only a few more mile away from rasharkin.

Bit of common sense..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 08, 2017, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2017, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 07, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
u21b game between ourselves and Portglenone has been moved to next tuesday night over in Portglenone at 8pm. we have the Ulster minor hurling semi final on sat plus our gala dinner sat night so fair dues to them for moving it.

Doesnt matter that its in their ground at all, only a few more mile away from rasharkin.

Bit of common sense..

Bottle it now, it will be needed again...  soon

Ps. Wonder can it be cultured ?  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 08, 2017, 09:54:29 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 08, 2017, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2017, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 07, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
u21b game between ourselves and Portglenone has been moved to next tuesday night over in Portglenone at 8pm. we have the Ulster minor hurling semi final on sat plus our gala dinner sat night so fair dues to them for moving it.

Doesnt matter that its in their ground at all, only a few more mile away from rasharkin.

Bit of common sense..

Bottle it now, it will be needed again...  soon

Ps. Wonder can it be cultured ?  8)

???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 08, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2017, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 07, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
u21b game between ourselves and Portglenone has been moved to next tuesday night over in Portglenone at 8pm. we have the Ulster minor hurling semi final on sat plus our gala dinner sat night so fair dues to them for moving it.

Doesnt matter that its in their ground at all, only a few more mile away from rasharkin.

Bit of common sense..

"Common sense" & "Antrim GAA". Not very often that you come across those 2 things, in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 08, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
I know. Portglenone were nice enough to understand our position and tbf they prob thought that the home game would suit them. its win win for both sides.

i dont mind going there at all, its a good pitch and set up. never been to a game on it yet. looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2017, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?
what trials? Still no word of a minor manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.

Shock...I wonder why   ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 09, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.

Shock...I wonder why   ???

Work? travel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 09, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 09, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.

Shock...I wonder why   ???

Work? travel?

complete lack of belief and utter disillusionment at what is being offered to them....for starters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 09, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.

Shock...I wonder why   ???

Work? travel?

complete lack of belief and utter disillusionment at what is being offered to them....for starters
Please enlighten Spike.......does austerity still rule..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 09, 2017, 06:43:37 PM
'Offered to them?' You mean the set up? It's not in place yet if they are only at trial stage. And what is being offered is the chance to play for their County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 09, 2017, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 09, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.

Shock...I wonder why   ???

Work? travel?

complete lack of belief and utter disillusionment at what is being offered to them....for starters

ok.. fair enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2017, 06:56:37 PM
Doesn't take long for the haters to come back!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2017, 07:46:11 PM
Exactly. It's early days and far too early for the negative stuff. The three man sub committee gave their nod to Lenny and were obviously impressed by what he planned to do/bring/set up, so out of respect for the democratic process we should give this every opportunity to settle down and hopefully work out.

Lenny will be a different kind of manager and it's very possible he will be quite popular amongst players. Only fair we all give him and his backroom team a proper crack at this before the usual negativity comes out.

There will be plenty of time for the post mortems if it dosent work out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 10, 2017, 12:07:09 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 09, 2017, 07:46:11 PM
Exactly. It's early days and far too early for the negative stuff. The three man sub committee gave their nod to Lenny and were obviously impressed by what he planned to do/bring/set up, so out of respect for the democratic process we should give this every opportunity to settle down and hopefully work out.

Lenny will be a different kind of manager and it's very possible he will be quite popular amongst players. Only fair we all give him and his backroom team a proper crack at this before the usual negativity comes out.

There will be plenty of time for the post mortems if it dosent work out.

Got asked a question and replied with what i know.  Realise it doesnt suit everyones agenda but sure in 3 years time when we have appointed the next cheap manager from west belfast as we've done for 100 years sure i get to say i told u so.   Im not a hater, just an unbeliever.   Fellas staying away because they feel antrim board have done what theyve always done. Which they have.  Eternal optimists like bannside are welcome to continue believing, thats their choice and good luck to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 10, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 09, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 09, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 08, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
Anybody hear how 'trials' went last night.....?

I took a walk round on Tuesday night. To my eye there was about 8 players short of last years panel and I believed Tuesday was the last time everyone could trial? Could be wrong.

Heard on the sideline that a handful of boys from last years panel can't commit this year for whatever reasons.

Shock...I wonder why   ???

Work? travel?

complete lack of belief and utter disillusionment at what is being offered to them....for starters
Please enlighten Spike.......does austerity still rule..?

Theyve just had enough. Too much effort for no satisfaction. Shambles from one year to the next. Cant blame them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 08:11:18 AM
Can't blame them, too much effort ? Yeah plenty effort by staying away, dedicated Antrim men? Yep I see what you mean, well more time with their clubs can only improve them!

Read back on your posts and take a redner!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on November 10, 2017, 08:34:13 AM
Do we know the full backroom team yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 10, 2017, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 08:11:18 AM
Can't blame them, too much effort ? Yeah plenty effort by staying away, dedicated Antrim men? Yep I see what you mean, well more time with their clubs can only improve them!

Read back on your posts and take a redner!

'There are none so blind as those who cannot see.'

You obviously have absolutely no knowledge at all of what sacrifices and training modern players go through. The days of a bag of balls, a lap of the field, shooting practice and a wee game are long gone.  If you had went through a few years of disillusionment and comedy training sessions up at the county then you'd soon realise why the eye rolls happen when they hear yet another bargain bucket home boy appointment has been made.   Smoke and mirrors with backroom staff, tight lipped budgets and piss poor trials.....sounds good.   

The only redner I would take is allowing myself to engage with someone who cannot think for themselves and toes the party line.  Establishment man image reinforced yet again (despite protestations) even though they continually dump on you.

Obama out  *mic drop*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 10, 2017, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 10, 2017, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 08:11:18 AM
Can't blame them, too much effort ? Yeah plenty effort by staying away, dedicated Antrim men? Yep I see what you mean, well more time with their clubs can only improve them!

Read back on your posts and take a redner!

'There are none so blind as those who cannot see.'

You obviously have absolutely no knowledge at all of what sacrifices and training modern players go through. The days of a bag of balls, a lap of the field, shooting practice and a wee game are long gone.  If you had went through a few years of disillusionment and comedy training sessions up at the county then you'd soon realise why the eye rolls happen when they hear yet another bargain bucket home boy appointment has been made.   Smoke and mirrors with backroom staff, tight lipped budgets and piss poor trials.....sounds good.   

The only redner I would take is allowing myself to engage with someone who cannot think for themselves and toes the party line.  Establishment man image reinforced yet again (despite protestations) even though they continually dump on you.

Obama out  *mic drop*

What does this mean please?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
https://giphy.com/gifs/obama-mic-drop-out-3o7qDSOvfaCO9b3MlO (https://giphy.com/gifs/obama-mic-drop-out-3o7qDSOvfaCO9b3MlO)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 10, 2017, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.

Bannside, I know you're not a 'Yes' man and have the GAA at heart and everything you've said above is reasoned and nuanced.

My problem, from the start of this, is that we have repeated the same formula for failure & stagnation, and are now expecting a different result.  If I think it, then some players will also think it, especially when they believed something more optimistic was being offered also, hence lukewarm reception. Maybe they'll have a change of heart after Christmas, who knows?   

Fully agree with comments on the board - honeymoon period is over.

I'll be the first person on here to hold my hands up and say I was wrong IF Lenny takes us out of Div 3 & 4. Is a a crack at Div 2 too much to ask? Its 5 years now since we beat Galway in Casement park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.
I do recall your unlimited approval of the SV last year BS which included the vociferous support given when reports from senior camp, and possibly more importantly from within the minors suggested that the 'austerity programme' employed had descended to the absolute farcical when management were being forced into digging into their own pockets to ensure their charges were being fed.
Sew and reap.... ;)   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 10, 2017, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 08:11:18 AM
Can't blame them, too much effort ? Yeah plenty effort by staying away, dedicated Antrim men? Yep I see what you mean, well more time with their clubs can only improve them!

Read back on your posts and take a redner!

'There are none so blind as those who cannot see.'

You obviously have absolutely no knowledge at all of what sacrifices and training modern players go through. The days of a bag of balls, a lap of the field, shooting practice and a wee game are long gone.  If you had went through a few years of disillusionment and comedy training sessions up at the county then you'd soon realise why the eye rolls happen when they hear yet another bargain bucket home boy appointment has been made.   Smoke and mirrors with backroom staff, tight lipped budgets and piss poor trials.....sounds good.   

The only redner I would take is allowing myself to engage with someone who cannot think for themselves and toes the party line.  Establishment man image reinforced yet again (despite protestations) even though they continually dump on you.

Obama out  *mic drop*

I've no idea at all of how to take a team, coach a team, manage a team, work with committees or see the sessions the players put in!

Been down that road and I know exactly what it takes, funny enough so does Lenny, he's played for the county or the comedy show as you call it, he's played for his club in two Ulster finals in a row winning one of them and has managed a team to Croke park.. But you Spike have all the answers, full of shit, bar fly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 10, 2017, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.
I do recall your unlimited approval of the SV last year BS which included the vociferous support given when reports from senior camp, and possibly more importantly from within the minors suggested that the 'austerity programme' employed had descended to the absolute farcical when management were being forced into digging into their own pockets to ensure their charges were being fed.
Sew and reap.... ;)

Sow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2017, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 10, 2017, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.
I do recall your unlimited approval of the SV last year BS which included the vociferous support given when reports from senior camp, and possibly more importantly from within the minors suggested that the 'austerity programme' employed had descended to the absolute farcical when management were being forced into digging into their own pockets to ensure their charges were being fed.
Sew and reap.... ;)

Sow

Awful thing to call anybody lad..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2017, 05:34:23 PM
So convention will look to employ tellers....four positions to be contested.
Chairman is opposed by J Mc Lean....
Seems MR2 has been keeping quiet....a post sought in the Row ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2017, 06:29:01 PM
A few challenges to existing Board members. We would be doing a Brexit style self inflicted wound if we don't keep current Board in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2017, 07:03:06 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2017, 06:29:01 PM
A few challenges to existing Board members. We would be doing a Brexit style self inflicted wound if we don't keep current Board in place.

How?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 10, 2017, 08:38:20 PM
They've certainly done some things well .....and other things (like repeated managerial appontments) shockingly.  Jurys out for the moment but prepared to sit and wait another year.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TROUSERS on November 10, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.

What's so impressive about McKeever?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 11, 2017, 09:20:40 AM
Quote from: TROUSERS on November 10, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.

What's so impressive about McKeever?

Just checking your posts there pal and there seems to be a reoccurring theme and that's McKeever. From what I can gather he had a very impressive backroom team and professional set up but for whatever reason he didn't get the job.

I've saw the list of players kept on and to be honest some of them didn't impress in the JFC & Div3 never mind at SFC & Div1. All we can do is keep the faith and wish Lenny all the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: TROUSERS on November 11, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 11, 2017, 09:20:40 AM
Quote from: TROUSERS on November 10, 2017, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2017, 10:47:41 AM
Ooch Spike I felt that!

I want to make it clear that Im not pro establishment just for the sake of it. I have a prolonged history of taking the board to task and calling them out on their lack of ambition for Antrim Football.

I liked the make up of the new board and although they have not been foot perfect, they are making some good strides and nudging us towards a better place. As I have said many times, at the end of their tenure they will have left us in a much better place than they found us.

Whilst all that is well and good, their acid test for me personally is "What have they done for Antrim Football?", and will they leave it in a better place. To date there is absolutely no evidence of that, and very disappointingly, not one shred of an idea about a think tank, or how to set up any kind of sustainable meaningful structure going forward. It wont be done this term either with convention around the corner, but thats what I will be calling them out on if they are reinstated. They have had their honeymoon period.

Undoubtedly their main priorities were tidying up the financials, sorting out the social club issue and get to grips with Ulster council re Casement. Getting our county teams to become competitive was further down the list....and under the circumstances this can be justified. But that huge task must become a higher priority now.

In the meantime Spike I totally share your frustration. We cant ever assume Division Four/Three is our eternal lot. Youre right, we need to be more assertive, demand better, expect more from a county of our size.

Lenny has the football job, yes we still dont know about his backroom team, and the players will take a few weeks or months to form their own opinion about the set up. If its as progressive as was sold to the 3 man sub committee, then great, and I will be much more relaxed, because I do know exactly what was on offer in the alternative package (JMK).....and trust me it was impressive.

Its only right we provide all involved with the space to lay down their foundations, and if its top notch lets acknowledge that, and if its not, then make no mistake it will be called out for what it is. There is NO hiding place at this level.

What's so impressive about McKeever?

Just checking your posts there pal and there seems to be a reoccurring theme and that's McKeever. From what I can gather he had a very impressive backroom team and professional set up but for whatever reason he didn't get the job.

I've saw the list of players kept on and to be honest some of them didn't impress in the JFC & Div3 never mind at SFC & Div1. All we can do is keep the faith and wish Lenny all the best.

Recheck the posts never specifically mentioned McKeever before. Was just a question. Harbinson won senior all Ireland club but has been dismissed by nearly every poster on here and just trying to work out why.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2017, 11:41:06 AM
Trousers, this has been discussed at length a month ago when Lenny got the post. Simply scroll back a few pages because nothing has changed. There are a few people here who would have preferred JMK, but thats not to say that they have "dismissed" Lenny. Sorry. but that term is too strong.

I would have a detailed knowledge of Johns CV, his references, who he was bringing with him (Conleith Gilligan has now been approached by three county managers to be their number two) right down to who was the man in the stand, the dietitian, the analysis team, S&C personnel, physio back up etc. Even down to securing positive vibes about securing additional funding from a few businesses who were happy to sponsor the "extras" etc. Everything was in place.

Lenny is still putting his backroom team together and hopefully it will be one that can inspire the players. Because whether its a JFC or an under ten team, thats what a manager needs to do. So all we can do now is trust that Alec Mc Quillan, Paul Mc Erlean and Ciaran Hamill got their call right...because they were the only ones privy to all the information.

I have absolutely no intention of undermining Lenny, who is a good guy and a credible candidate, and whom I personally wish nothing but the best. Please God he delivers a programme that can get the players buzzing

....because I have no doubt JMKs programme would have done that!

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 11, 2017, 01:33:51 PM
Is fintan devlin lennys s&c coach?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2017, 01:42:56 PM
Thats the word on the street Galer. Good lad, players will like him. Tough competitor on the pitch too (I managed him at An Lub). Think the stats guy is also from St Ciarans school, Ballygawley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....

Is it worse than last years??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....

Is it worse than last years??
Well no Matthew Fitz for a start......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....

Is it worse than last years??
Well no Matthew Fitz for a start......

So will we get 15 players this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 11, 2017, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....

Anywhere to see the squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 11, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Have had a look at Lenny's squad and if that's his lot I despair....

Is it worse than last years??
Well no Matthew Fitz for a start......

So will we get 15 players this year?
Hope so...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 12, 2017, 07:48:58 AM
Forgive my ignorance but is f devlin not a teacher?
Yes he was a great player for the loup,absolutely brilliant player.i know he has managed a couple of teams like galbally before but dont see the relevance of a teacher being qualified for s&c.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Galer on November 12, 2017, 07:48:58 AM
Forgive my ignorance but is f devlin not a teacher?
Yes he was a great player for the loup,absolutely brilliant player.i know he has managed a couple of teams like galbally before but dont see the relevance of a teacher being qualified for s&c.

Eh? I've known joiners that have become personal trainers, can't how a teacher can't be qualified in s/c... like saying a teacher has no experience in managing teams as he didn't do the foundation courses..

Keep looking for the negatives Galer, or antigaler should be a better name
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
To be honest knowing Finty I would say that if his remit is getting the team physically fit and strong them I'd be confident he would be very capable of doing that. I would see his addition to the management team as a plus, and he will add value in other areas too. A good bolt on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 12, 2017, 01:55:51 PM
Have the squad details been released?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 12, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
There are many people profess to be experts (managers,s&c),doesnt mean they are.when peoples bodies r u being put on the line then they need someone who knows what there at.
There was no negativity on previous post.am i not entitled to pose a question?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 12, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
There are many people profess to be experts (managers,s&c),doesnt mean they are.when peoples bodies r u being put on the line then they need someone who knows what there at.
There was no negativity on previous post.am i not entitled to pose a question?

So having a qualification will suit your view?

I've a qualification in first aid but I wouldn't recommend me to help you out should you need first aid!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 12, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
There are many people profess to be experts (managers,s&c),doesnt mean they are.when peoples bodies r u being put on the line then they need someone who knows what there at.
There was no negativity on previous post.am i not entitled to pose a question?

Doesnt need a cv or a plan.  As long as he is cheap he will be ok. Any job with antrim football is always won by the cheapest person.  This isnt a results based job.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 12, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
There are many people profess to be experts (managers,s&c),doesnt mean they are.when peoples bodies r u being put on the line then they need someone who knows what there at.
There was no negativity on previous post.am i not entitled to pose a question?

Doesnt need a cv or a plan.  As long as he is cheap he will be ok. Any job with antrim football is always won by the cheapest person.  This isnt a results based job.  ;)

Think if we are basing it on a cv then clearly the best manager won! Stupid boy  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
Antrim went toe to toe with a B League team in Armagh for his services......clincher was the free pair of boots antrim were offering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
It's clear you're not happy but you ain't making sense... based on your post Lenny was the best man, now dry your eyes and move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:08:01 PM
Actually thats incorrect but no point explaining it to you. Anyways, A better musing is why the hurlers have the pick of ireland and the footballers have the pick of west belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:18:11 PM
But to stay closer to point, even Lennys biggest supporters must be slightly concerned with the panel and sounds coming out from around the club players?   Im sure Lenny would appreciate some tips for recruitment. (He maybe can claim bck the cost of any phone calls).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 12, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Mr2 think u have made my point for me with your statements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 12, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Mr2 think u have made my point for me with your statements.

Based on whether or not Lenny has a qualification as a manager ? Not sure he does, according to you if he doesn't then clearly not the right man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 06:18:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 09:22:08 PM
Take a walk up the Falls road on Saturday morning or in Andytown and you will see a lot of young lads kitted out in their soccer club garb, where they are treated well, and no wonder we lose them with the attitude forthcoming from some.
When was the last year South Antrim won nothing at all in football as in 2017....oh wait they did earn a div 3 league title and just for the craic when did they last take a senior hurling title back home to Belfast ?
Our games or most certainly on the wane in the second largest city in Ireland both in able participation and indeed as spectators......and few it seems care. ???

I see the SW last hope died today with Cargin being knocked out of the U21 championship.
That's a clean sweep of football titles for Belfast clubs. A city where our national games are dying on their feet.
Terrible times for Antrim GAA.

Well they did have a SW man in charge of the football final! So well done lads  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 06:18:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 09:22:08 PM
Take a walk up the Falls road on Saturday morning or in Andytown and you will see a lot of young lads kitted out in their soccer club garb, where they are treated well, and no wonder we lose them with the attitude forthcoming from some.
When was the last year South Antrim won nothing at all in football as in 2017....oh wait they did earn a div 3 league title and just for the craic when did they last take a senior hurling title back home to Belfast ?
Our games or most certainly on the wane in the second largest city in Ireland both in able participation and indeed as spectators......and few it seems care. ???

I see the SW last hope died today with Cargin being knocked out of the U21 championship.
That's a clean sweep of football titles for Belfast clubs. A city where our national games are dying on their feet.
Terrible times for Antrim GAA.
Jeez HS sure everyone is more than aware that things are going swimmingly well in the big smoke in some quarters......
Well for a city with more than half a million inhabitants such should well be the case.
Hey but I really can't remember the last time the Volunteer cup was entertained up there and it has been a while since a club with the tradition of Rossa won a senior football title..... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 06:18:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 20, 2017, 09:22:08 PM
Take a walk up the Falls road on Saturday morning or in Andytown and you will see a lot of young lads kitted out in their soccer club garb, where they are treated well, and no wonder we lose them with the attitude forthcoming from some.
When was the last year South Antrim won nothing at all in football as in 2017....oh wait they did earn a div 3 league title and just for the craic when did they last take a senior hurling title back home to Belfast ?
Our games or most certainly on the wane in the second largest city in Ireland both in able participation and indeed as spectators......and few it seems care. ???

I see the SW last hope died today with Cargin being knocked out of the U21 championship.
That's a clean sweep of football titles for Belfast clubs. A city where our national games are dying on their feet.
Terrible times for Antrim GAA.
Jeez HS sure everyone is more than aware that things are going swimmingly well in the big smoke in some quarters......
Well for a city with more than half a million inhabitants such should well be the case.
Hey but I really can't remember the last time the Volunteer cup was entertained up there and it has been a while since a club with the tradition of Rossa won a senior football title..... :'(

Jesus! I haven't looked but I'd say they'd have twice as many as your lot?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁
And the 'Row' may well have a seat on the 'Board' post convention......
But wait MR2 not talking about that.....could it be because he is rarely seen up there and is not aware of the nomination....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff

So Cargin wouldn't let The Og man lift the cup? That's poor form
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?
Think you are on thin ice this time MR2......can recall individuals from St Enda's, Mc Dermott's, Gort na Mona, Moneyglass, Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone, and a host of others hauling the same trophy to Milltown.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff

So Cargin wouldn't let The Og man lift the cup? That's poor form

Hes wasnt the captain i believe so why would they.  Sorry forgot....sensitive subject with blow ins and all. No doubt they all stayed and are helping out around the club.  Caredul not to be fake numbered now....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁
And the 'Row' may well have a seat on the 'Board' post convention......
But wait MR2 not talking about that.....could it be because he is rarely seen up there and is not aware of the nomination....

Rarely? Hmmm I'm 46 in over a months time, played couple games this year got the reserves in football and hurling, but yeah the ref'ing does limit my time at the club, now I could do feck all and be like you but I much prefer what I do


On another note... Manners firmly put on the SW this year! I mean how dare yas getting so uppity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff

So Cargin wouldn't let The Og man lift the cup? That's poor form

Hes wasnt the captain i believe so why would they.  Sorry forgot....sensitive subject with blow ins and all. No doubt they all stayed and are helping out around the club.  Caredul not to be fake numbered now....

So Cargin don't have blow ins?

As for your staying behind and helping out, do a bit of research first on that subject
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff

So Cargin wouldn't let The Og man lift the cup? That's poor form

Hes wasnt the captain i believe so why would they.  Sorry forgot....sensitive subject with blow ins and all. No doubt they all stayed and are helping out around the club.  Caredul not to be fake numbered now....

So Cargin don't have blow ins?

As for your staying behind and helping out, do a bit of research first on that subject

Of course they have over the years.....they just werent like the united nations like some others.  Dear John letters now when the club membership fee gets sent out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff

So Cargin wouldn't let The Og man lift the cup? That's poor form

Hes wasnt the captain i believe so why would they.  Sorry forgot....sensitive subject with blow ins and all. No doubt they all stayed and are helping out around the club.  Caredul not to be fake numbered now....

So Cargin don't have blow ins?

As for your staying behind and helping out, do a bit of research first on that subject

Of course they have over the years.....they just werent like the united nations like some others.  Dear John letters now when the club membership fee gets sent out

I know it's tough out in the sticks, but I think the SW will march back next year... and win the reserve championship again, and the league of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 06:47:01 PM
All these clubs ploughing all of their resources into a single code and they can't manage to get a bit of silverware between them. Shocking!

Yep.....and their own money too. Not a begging bowl or condemned stand/changing rooms to be seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM
Come on now, a SW man lifted the Senior football trophy....its not all bad 😁

Yes, last year Tir na og man ?

Isnt Martin Kane from Toome? Isnt michael magill from the SW? Poor stuff

So Cargin wouldn't let The Og man lift the cup? That's poor form

Hes wasnt the captain i believe so why would they.  Sorry forgot....sensitive subject with blow ins and all. No doubt they all stayed and are helping out around the club.  Caredul not to be fake numbered now....

So Cargin don't have blow ins?

As for your staying behind and helping out, do a bit of research first on that subject

Of course they have over the years.....they just werent like the united nations like some others.  Dear John letters now when the club membership fee gets sent out

I know it's tough out in the sticks, but I think the SW will march back next year... and win the reserve championship again, and the league of course

Id say you're right but to be fair its easier to travel to a parish club when you're actually from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 07:23:45 PM
Yep, with the roads improving all the time it will be easier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 08:09:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 06:47:01 PM
All these clubs ploughing all of their resources into a single code and they can't manage to get a bit of silverware between them. Shocking!

Yep.....and their own money too. Not a begging bowl or condemned stand/changing rooms to be seen.
One code, great facilities.....you'd think they would be cleaning up year in year out.
And with a tradition in hurling and 600,000 odd to pick from a senior title, hurling or football is likely some time soon....1991.....2004 long time passing.......U think ur mate MR2 remembers.....might not, he does seem to forget the Row are looking a seat on the County Management.......but does he know...?
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
Just who/were the 'Cargin blow ins' Mr2......need to know...We had a development meeting tonite and the club have decided on a new transfer policy in the club.
Seems we are to follow the successful trend set by ur lot...bring them in as pairs...the Gallaghers...the O Neill's...the Burke's...what u think.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
Yis went a hell of a lot longer yourselves without winning one.
And we may go ad long again......unless we follow the Milltown way..... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
Just who/were the 'Cargin blow ins' Mr2......need to know...We had a development meeting tonite and the club have decided on a new transfer policy in the club.
Seems we are to follow the successful trend set by ur lot...bring them in as pairs...the Gallaghers...the O Neill's...the Burke's...what u think.... ;)

Are you serious lol? Cargin have never had blow ins??

All the above won juvenile championships from under 12 but you'd know that as we hammered your lot along the way  :P

Once you get over the pain of a difficult year I think you'll be back next year, the league will get yas going in right direction .

Just roll up the sleeves and back to drawing board, you've plenty of potential coming through so beating the Johnnies should be top of your list!

The club is so disappointed with what these lads have achieved and the continued effort ! Ah well CB, if the county agm is your main topic on here then I'd be worried
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
Just who/were the 'Cargin blow ins' Mr2......need to know...We had a development meeting tonite and the club have decided on a new transfer policy in the club.
Seems we are to follow the successful trend set by ur lot...bring them in as pairs...the Gallaghers...the O Neill's...the Burke's...what u think.... ;)

Are you serious lol? Cargin have never had blow ins??

All the above won juvenile championships from under 12 but you'd know that as we hammered your lot along the way  :P

Once you get over the pain of a difficult year I think you'll be back next year, the league will get yas going in right direction .

Just roll up the sleeves and back to drawing board, you've plenty of potential coming through so beating the Johnnies should be top of your list!

The club is so disappointed with what these lads have achieved and the continued effort ! Ah well CB, if the county agm is your main topic on here then I'd be worried
Please if our year was difficult was a disaster on the Row....unless I missed something....
Please wise up I think u pilfered from....Mc Dermotts....Eire Of....St Enda's...Gorts....Moneyglass...the Gallagher's arrived from Fermanagh....dunno where Dr Mc Crory or John Rafferty originated....need I continue as I can recall a whole lotta attachments...think last time we met in minor championship was 2000 and I think we did win that one by nine points....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 10:22:10 PM
Either you do have blow ins or you don't, now it's a simple question even for you CB, you can't give off about it while doing it yourselves... so come on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 10:25:23 PM
Ah now CB, im sure every single one of those guys is still helping out and paying membership into the club.  The GAA and its community are inextricably linked. It wouldnt mean anything if it wasnt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2017, 10:26:53 PM
And people wonder why Antrim aren't successful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 12, 2017, 10:25:23 PM
Ah now CB, im sure every single one of those guys is still helping out and paying membership into the club.  The GAA and its community are inextricably linked. It wouldnt mean anything if it wasnt.

Are you for real?? Fecking tag team lol! You've always said this and already answered.. now CB come on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 10:29:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2017, 10:26:53 PM
And people wonder why Antrim aren't successful

Have you been on the Derry threads ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
Yes - they're not successful either
But there's a difference between club rivalry and the divide that there is here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM
Hey MR2 might be a clown.....buts hes our clown!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
Yes - they're not successful either
But there's a difference between club rivalry and the divide that there is here

There's about 15 Antrim posters here, in my opinion I don't think it represents any real issues or divide ! Some people will come on for a rant but mainly it's a bitta banter, yes it can go overboard but I've the greatest respect for all clubs in Antrim, irrespective to what I put on here, as it's  mainly a wind up!

I've Ref'd In every club and do so impartially and honestly as that's how I'd like it to be done when my club plays!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2017, 08:15:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
Yes - they're not successful either
But there's a difference between club rivalry and the divide that there is here

There's about 15 Antrim posters here, in my opinion I don't think it represents any real issues or divide ! Some people will come on for a rant but mainly it's a bitta banter, yes it can go overboard but I've the greatest respect for all clubs in Antrim, irrespective to what I put on here, as it's  mainly a wind up!

I've Ref'd In every club and do so impartially and honestly as that's how I'd like it to be done when my club plays!
Never had the pleasure in welcoming u to Toome MR2....no sat nav......but hey most up on the Row would say u say u ate rarely seen up there. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2017, 08:20:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2017, 08:15:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
Yes - they're not successful either
But there's a difference between club rivalry and the divide that there is here

There's about 15 Antrim posters here, in my opinion I don't think it represents any real issues or divide ! Some people will come on for a rant but mainly it's a bitta banter, yes it can go overboard but I've the greatest respect for all clubs in Antrim, irrespective to what I put on here, as it's  mainly a wind up!

I've Ref'd In every club and do so impartially and honestly as that's how I'd like it to be done when my club plays!
Never had the pleasure in welcoming u to Toome MR2....no sat nav......but hey most up on the Row would say u say u ate rarely seen up there. 8)

Last played there for the reserves about 6 years ago, referee'd a minor game a while back also.. go back to your sources lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 13, 2017, 08:54:55 AM
ffs this is getting a bit much, will you 2 not go outside and sort it out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 13, 2017, 09:11:00 AM
The sexual tension between those two is getting a bit much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 13, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
Mr2 have u seen the county panel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2017, 02:54:54 PM
Now that John Brennan has departed the hot seat at Cargin, who is favourite to succeed him. Enda Mc Ginley, Damian Cassidy or Darren Craig, thats the three names that are cropping up.

Any other managerial changes in Antrim clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2017, 03:04:34 PM
Div 1.

Cargin
St Johns
St Galls
Creggan
Lamh Dhearg
Aghagallon
Portglenone
Rossa
St Teresas
Ahoghill
Glenavy
St Endas

Div 2.

Moneyglass
Tir Na Og
St Brigids
Rasharkin
Ballymena
Gort Na Mona
Dunloy
Davitts
Sarsfields
O'Donnells
Aldergrove
St Pauls

Div 3.

Antrim
Ardoyne
Glenravel
Lisburn
St Mals
Pearses
Eire Og
St Agnes
Ballycastle
Mitchels

The 3 Divisions for next season 2018, fill in the blanks when you're club makes their appointment if they already haven't done so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2017, 02:54:54 PM
Now that John Brennan has departed the hot seat at Cargin, who is favourite to succeed him. Enda Mc Ginley, Damian Cassidy or Darren Craig, thats the three names that are cropping up.

Any other managerial changes in Antrim clubs?

I saw on social media that the Dunloy manager is stepping down, great job for somebody with the talent coming through there. Glenravel management stepping down also, so one of their players tells me, also could be a job for somebody who wants a challenge!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 13, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
Aghagallon management team also stepping aside after a great few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2017, 04:25:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 13, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2017, 02:54:54 PM
Now that John Brennan has departed the hot seat at Cargin, who is favourite to succeed him. Enda Mc Ginley, Damian Cassidy or Darren Craig, thats the three names that are cropping up.

Any other managerial changes in Antrim clubs?

I saw on social media that the Dunloy manager is stepping down, great job for somebody with the talent coming through there. Glenravel management stepping down also, so one of their players tells me, also could be a job for somebody who wants a challenge!

Dominic has stood down after 3 seasons in charge. took us from going no where to 3 county finals and putting football in a better place than it was prior. have heard who is interested in taking the job but its still not official as of yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 13, 2017, 04:45:36 PM
Has nugent left the johniees?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2017, 05:53:06 PM
Jude Donnelly staying with Portglenone. We really need to be kicking on into top four at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2017, 06:01:35 PM
Is darren craig the fella they called scaldy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2017, 07:27:00 PM
Yes ITG. Did a good job at Tir Na Nog and would be a good man for any club, though obviously the no 1 at Cargin is his favoured job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
Ah very good. Must have got more sensible in his older years ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2017, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 13, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
Mr2 have u seen the county panel!

Nope, can you put it up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 14, 2017, 10:09:18 AM
Sorry havent a clue how to upload it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2017, 10:29:09 AM
Domhnall Nugent  Lamh Dhearg
Padraig Nugent    St Johns
Andrew Hasson  Rasharkin
Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg
Peter Healy  St Endas
Odhran Eastwood St Endas
Kistan Healy St Endas
Ruari McCann  Creggan
Seamus McGarry Aldergrove
Connor McKenna Eire Og
Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg
Declan Lynch Lamh Dhearg
Kevin O'Boyle Cargin
Tomas McCann Cargin
James Laverty Cargin
Jack Dowling St Brigids
Paddy McBride St Johns
Mark Sweeney St Judes
Chris Kerr St Galls
CJ McGourty St Galls
Niall Delargy Portglenone
Niall McKeever Portglenone
Peter McNicholl Ballymena
Connell Lemon Ballymena
Paddy McAleer Ballymena
Sean McVeigh Ballymena
Michael McCarry Ballymena
Colum Duffin Moneyglass
Pat Brannigan Aghagallon
Gareth Magee Aghagallon
Stephen Beatty Rossa
Pat Gallagher Glenavy
Paddy O'Connor St Comgalls.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
Must be able to pick a decent team from that lot!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 14, 2017, 10:44:12 AM
That's a strong pool for starters. Spoke briefly to Lenny yesterday and the vibes are very good, a very committed man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Five players from Ballymena, do they play in the senior football league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
Quote from: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Five players from Ballymena, do they play in the senior football league?

They finished bottom half of Div 2 last season, those players are likely the better ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
Quote from: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Five players from Ballymena, do they play in the senior football league?

They finished bottom half of Div 2 last season, those players are likely the better ones.

is D1 senior, D2 intermediate, D3 junior?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 14, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
Quote from: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Five players from Ballymena, do they play in the senior football league?

They finished bottom half of Div 2 last season, those players are likely the better ones.

is D1 senior, D2 intermediate, D3 junior?

not really - you have a choice in DIV 2 of championships, most play in Intermediate, some opt for Senior, like Glenavy last year
Ballymena played in intermediate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 14, 2017, 12:40:18 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 14, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
Quote from: shawshank on November 14, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Five players from Ballymena, do they play in the senior football league?

They finished bottom half of Div 2 last season, those players are likely the better ones.

is D1 senior, D2 intermediate, D3 junior?

not really - you have a choice in DIV 2 of championships, most play in Intermediate, some opt for Senior, like Glenavy last year
Ballymena played in intermediate

and some play JFC like Ardoyne this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
un related and probably should be on the hurling thread but not really a hurling post as such, but are Davitts playing in a Junior B all Ireland championship? and was there a football competition for this level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on November 14, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
                                                           Last years panel (roughly)
Domhnall Nugent  Lamh Dhearg            Ronan Hanna
Padraig Nugent    St Johns                    Chris Kerr
Andrew Hasson  Rasharkin                Matthew Fitzpatrick
Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg                    Kevin OBoyle
Peter Healy  St Endas                           Sean Pat Donnelly
Odhran Eastwood St Endas                   Stephen Beatty
Kistan Healy St Endas                          Conor Murray
Ruari McCann  Creggan                        Ryan Murray
Seamus McGarry Aldergrove                 Declan Lynch
Connor McKenna Eire Og                      CJ McGourty
Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg                  Brendan Bradley
Declan Lynch Lamh Dhearg                   Ruari McCann
Kevin O'Boyle Cargin                           Conor Small
Tomas McCann Cargin                          Martin Johnson
James Laverty Cargin                          James Laverty
Jack Dowling St Brigids                       Tomas McCann
Paddy McBride St Johns                      Jack Dowling
Mark Sweeney St Judes                       Paddy McBride
Chris Kerr St Galls                             Conor Hammill
CJ McGourty St Galls                           Patrick Gallagher
Niall Delargy Portglenone                    Owen Gallagher
Niall McKeever Portglenone                 Niall Delargy
Peter McNicholl Ballymena                  Ordhan Eastwood
Connell Lemon Ballymena                   Ruari Scott
Paddy McAleer Ballymena                   Peter Healy
Sean McVeigh Ballymena                   Sean McVeigh
Michael McCarry Ballymena                Paddy McAleer
Colum Duffin Moneyglass                   Seamus McGarry
Pat Brannigan Aghagallon                  Pat Brannigan
Gareth Magee Aghagallon                  Ruari McCann Agha
Stephen Beatty Rossa                       Oisin Lenaghan
Pat Gallagher Glenavy                       Eunan Walsh
Paddy O'Connor St Comgalls.             Mark Sweeney

Bold - Are missing from this years panel. Can anyone shed any light on it? Some excellent players in there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2017, 08:11:45 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 14, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
                                                           Last years panel (roughly)
Domhnall Nugent  Lamh Dhearg            Ronan Hanna
Padraig Nugent    St Johns                    Chris Kerr
Andrew Hasson  Rasharkin                Matthew Fitzpatrick
Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg                    Kevin OBoyle
Peter Healy  St Endas                           Sean Pat Donnelly
Odhran Eastwood St Endas                   Stephen Beatty
Kistan Healy St Endas                          Conor Murray
Ruari McCann  Creggan                        Ryan Murray
Seamus McGarry Aldergrove                 Declan Lynch
Connor McKenna Eire Og                      CJ McGourty
Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg                  Brendan Bradley
Declan Lynch Lamh Dhearg                   Ruari McCann
Kevin O'Boyle Cargin                           Conor Small
Tomas McCann Cargin                          Martin Johnson
James Laverty Cargin                          James Laverty
Jack Dowling St Brigids                       Tomas McCann
Paddy McBride St Johns                      Jack Dowling
Mark Sweeney St Judes                       Paddy McBride
Chris Kerr St Galls                             Conor Hammill
CJ McGourty St Galls                           Patrick Gallagher
Niall Delargy Portglenone                    Owen Gallagher
Niall McKeever Portglenone                 Niall Delargy
Peter McNicholl Ballymena                  Ordhan Eastwood
Connell Lemon Ballymena                   Ruari Scott
Paddy McAleer Ballymena                   Peter Healy
Sean McVeigh Ballymena                   Sean McVeigh
Michael McCarry Ballymena                Paddy McAleer
Colum Duffin Moneyglass                   Seamus McGarry
Pat Brannigan Aghagallon                  Pat Brannigan
Gareth Magee Aghagallon                  Ruari McCann Agha
Stephen Beatty Rossa                       Oisin Lenaghan
Pat Gallagher Glenavy                       Eunan Walsh
Paddy O'Connor St Comgalls.             Mark Sweeney

Bold - Are missing from this years panel. Can anyone shed any light on it? Some excellent players in there.

Really encouraging panel, perhaps the best in years.  So many new faces.  I'm confident this new panel of hungry players, with the peerless Lenny as manager alongside his formidable backroom staff, will be able to maintain our Div 4 status, perhaps for a couple of years. Very confident. 

CJ for captain anyone - for the icing on the Christmas cake?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 14, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
Great game of football under our new lights there. Dunloy last year's minor champs beat us by a point and meet Tir Na Nog in the U 21 B final. Decent crowd too for a Tuesday night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 16, 2017, 09:22:58 AM
missed the game BS as i was in Dublin at the Ireland match but by all accounts it was a great game of football. our guys were well impressed with the new pitch and flood lighting, all that hard work was worth it.

Its a good bunch of fellas we have and if they stuck at it theres no reason we couldnt win the A in a few years time. we have never won an U21 title at football before so it would be nice to hopefully win the B.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2017, 10:25:10 AM
It was a great open game DR with plenty of quality players on both sides. Deaghlan Smyth was impressive, could step up to a higher level in the next few years, but there were a few others that could also be said of.

Yea tbh we are well pleased with our new facility. The playing surface is class despite the recent weather. Well worth the few years hard graft put in by members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on November 16, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
From an outsider looking in I like the current county board set up and what they are trying to do. Seem to be trying to get antrim up there. I don't know a lot about the man going for the top spot but his statement sounded very backward. I think yous are on a bettr path than a few years ago or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 16, 2017, 02:50:48 PM
that panel is bleak viewing, in my opinion there are a lot of boys out of their depth and not up to standard required for county football  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 16, 2017, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 14, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
                                                           Last years panel (roughly)
Domhnall Nugent  Lamh Dhearg            Ronan Hanna
Padraig Nugent    St Johns                    Chris Kerr
Andrew Hasson  Rasharkin                Matthew Fitzpatrick
Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg                    Kevin OBoyle
Peter Healy  St Endas                           Sean Pat Donnelly
Odhran Eastwood St Endas                   Stephen Beatty
Kistan Healy St Endas                          Conor Murray
Ruari McCann  Creggan                        Ryan Murray
Seamus McGarry Aldergrove                 Declan Lynch
Connor McKenna Eire Og                      CJ McGourty
Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg                  Brendan Bradley
Declan Lynch Lamh Dhearg                   Ruari McCann
Kevin O'Boyle Cargin                           Conor Small
Tomas McCann Cargin                          Martin Johnson
James Laverty Cargin                          James Laverty
Jack Dowling St Brigids                       Tomas McCann
Paddy McBride St Johns                      Jack Dowling
Mark Sweeney St Judes                       Paddy McBride
Chris Kerr St Galls                             Conor Hammill
CJ McGourty St Galls                           Patrick Gallagher
Niall Delargy Portglenone                    Owen Gallagher
Niall McKeever Portglenone                 Niall Delargy
Peter McNicholl Ballymena                  Ordhan Eastwood
Connell Lemon Ballymena                   Ruari Scott
Paddy McAleer Ballymena                   Peter Healy
Sean McVeigh Ballymena                   Sean McVeigh
Michael McCarry Ballymena                Paddy McAleer
Colum Duffin Moneyglass                   Seamus McGarry
Pat Brannigan Aghagallon                  Pat Brannigan
Gareth Magee Aghagallon                  Ruari McCann Agha
Stephen Beatty Rossa                       Oisin Lenaghan
Pat Gallagher Glenavy                       Eunan Walsh
Paddy O'Connor St Comgalls.             Mark Sweeney

Bold - Are missing from this years panel. Can anyone shed any light on it? Some excellent players in there.



how many of the bold names will we really miss???? 1 or 2 max.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 16, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on November 16, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
From an outsider looking in I like the current county board set up and what they are trying to do. Seem to be trying to get antrim up there. I don't know a lot about the man going for the top spot but his statement sounded very backward. I think yous are on a bettr path than a few years ago or am I wrong?
Seems a bit patronising Red Hand .......if u really do dwell "among the bushes".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on November 16, 2017, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: breakingball on November 16, 2017, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 14, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
                                                           Last years panel (roughly)
Domhnall Nugent  Lamh Dhearg            Ronan Hanna
Padraig Nugent    St Johns                    Chris Kerr
Andrew Hasson  Rasharkin                Matthew Fitzpatrick
Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg                    Kevin OBoyle
Peter Healy  St Endas                           Sean Pat Donnelly
Odhran Eastwood St Endas                   Stephen Beatty
Kistan Healy St Endas                          Conor Murray
Ruari McCann  Creggan                        Ryan Murray
Seamus McGarry Aldergrove                 Declan Lynch
Connor McKenna Eire Og                      CJ McGourty
Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg                  Brendan Bradley
Declan Lynch Lamh Dhearg                   Ruari McCann
Kevin O'Boyle Cargin                           Conor Small
Tomas McCann Cargin                          Martin Johnson
James Laverty Cargin                          James Laverty
Jack Dowling St Brigids                       Tomas McCann
Paddy McBride St Johns                      Jack Dowling
Mark Sweeney St Judes                       Paddy McBride
Chris Kerr St Galls                             Conor Hammill
CJ McGourty St Galls                           Patrick Gallagher
Niall Delargy Portglenone                    Owen Gallagher
Niall McKeever Portglenone                 Niall Delargy
Peter McNicholl Ballymena                  Ordhan Eastwood
Connell Lemon Ballymena                   Ruari Scott
Paddy McAleer Ballymena                   Peter Healy
Sean McVeigh Ballymena                   Sean McVeigh
Michael McCarry Ballymena                Paddy McAleer
Colum Duffin Moneyglass                   Seamus McGarry
Pat Brannigan Aghagallon                  Pat Brannigan
Gareth Magee Aghagallon                  Ruari McCann Agha
Stephen Beatty Rossa                       Oisin Lenaghan
Pat Gallagher Glenavy                       Eunan Walsh
Paddy O'Connor St Comgalls.             Mark Sweeney

Bold - Are missing from this years panel. Can anyone shed any light on it? Some excellent players in there.



how many of the bold names will we really miss???? 1 or 2 max.

Fitzpatrick, Small, Hanna, Conor Hamill, Martin Johnson, Sean Pat Donnelly - they are amongst the best players in our county without a doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 17, 2017, 12:50:27 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 16, 2017, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: breakingball on November 16, 2017, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: saffronog67 on November 14, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
                                                           Last years panel (roughly)
Domhnall Nugent  Lamh Dhearg            Ronan Hanna
Padraig Nugent    St Johns                    Chris Kerr
Andrew Hasson  Rasharkin                Matthew Fitzpatrick
Ryan Murray Lamh Dhearg                    Kevin OBoyle
Peter Healy  St Endas                           Sean Pat Donnelly
Odhran Eastwood St Endas                   Stephen Beatty
Kistan Healy St Endas                          Conor Murray
Ruari McCann  Creggan                        Ryan Murray
Seamus McGarry Aldergrove                 Declan Lynch
Connor McKenna Eire Og                      CJ McGourty
Conor Murray Lamh Dhearg                  Brendan Bradley
Declan Lynch Lamh Dhearg                   Ruari McCann
Kevin O'Boyle Cargin                           Conor Small
Tomas McCann Cargin                          Martin Johnson
James Laverty Cargin                          James Laverty
Jack Dowling St Brigids                       Tomas McCann
Paddy McBride St Johns                      Jack Dowling
Mark Sweeney St Judes                       Paddy McBride
Chris Kerr St Galls                             Conor Hammill
CJ McGourty St Galls                           Patrick Gallagher
Niall Delargy Portglenone                    Owen Gallagher
Niall McKeever Portglenone                 Niall Delargy
Peter McNicholl Ballymena                  Ordhan Eastwood
Connell Lemon Ballymena                   Ruari Scott
Paddy McAleer Ballymena                   Peter Healy
Sean McVeigh Ballymena                   Sean McVeigh
Michael McCarry Ballymena                Paddy McAleer
Colum Duffin Moneyglass                   Seamus McGarry
Pat Brannigan Aghagallon                  Pat Brannigan
Gareth Magee Aghagallon                  Ruari McCann Agha
Stephen Beatty Rossa                       Oisin Lenaghan
Pat Gallagher Glenavy                       Eunan Walsh
Paddy O'Connor St Comgalls.             Mark Sweeney

Bold - Are missing from this years panel. Can anyone shed any light on it? Some excellent players in there.



how many of the bold names will we really miss???? 1 or 2 max.

Fitzpatrick, Small, Hanna, Conor Hamill, Martin Johnson, Sean Pat Donnelly - they are amongst the best players in our county without a doubt.


Only Fitzpatrick and hamill played on a regular basis last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on November 17, 2017, 09:17:50 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 16, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on November 16, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
From an outsider looking in I like the current county board set up and what they are trying to do. Seem to be trying to get antrim up there. I don't know a lot about the man going for the top spot but his statement sounded very backward. I think yous are on a bettr path than a few years ago or am I wrong?
Seems a bit patronising Red Hand .......if u really do dwell "among the bushes".

Fair enough, just a query, I live in belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 17, 2017, 10:33:15 AM
He must have his 15 picked because there a lot of them boys nowhere near senior club level never mind county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Trap on November 17, 2017, 10:52:08 AM
Damian Cassidy for Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 11:58:27 AM
Quote from: The Trap on November 17, 2017, 10:52:08 AM
Damian Cassidy for Cargin
Ah well sure we need all the help we can get sure......don't some think we are on the decline and must make way.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 17, 2017, 01:14:48 PM
Cb is cassidy taken cargin next year.thought it was mcginley or scaldy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Galer on November 17, 2017, 01:14:48 PM
Cb is cassidy taken cargin next year.thought it was mcginley or scaldy
Heard all 3 in contention.....no announcement as yet....lotta rumours 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
Possibly a dream team of all 3 ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 03:00:24 PM
Might actually win something this time  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 04:33:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 03:00:24 PM
Might actually win something this time  ;)
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We won nothing this year.......follow the Gall's.....sure they haven't won a thing in how long... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 04:45:37 PM
We won the antrim b minor hurling!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 04:45:37 PM
We won the antrim b minor hurling!!
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Jeez would keep that quiet if I was you.....  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 04:45:37 PM
We won the antrim b minor hurling!!
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Jeez would keep that quiet if I was you.....  8)

Brilliant wee team who have stuck it out right through and managed to get a championship for their juvenile efforts! That's the GAA ! We celebrate them as much as the Ulster's and All Ireland's lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 04:45:37 PM
We won the antrim b minor hurling!!
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Jeez would keep that quiet if I was you.....  8)

Brilliant wee team who have stuck it out right through and managed to get a championship for their juvenile efforts! That's the GAA ! We celebrate them as much as the Ulster's and All Ireland's lad
So you have moved to Toome MR2 and you have figured it out at last......talking our language....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2017, 10:37:28 PM
I was through it tonight in fairness, on way to Cookstown... busy wee village
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2017, 04:18:17 PM
U21b final set for Portglenone at 2pm next sunday.

great pitch for the final. really good surface to play on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
So convention is in view and the canvassing is off the blocks, away and running.
Wonder will the message therein by taken on board... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2017, 09:36:42 PM
Can't wait! Will be nail biting stuff, hopefully our club person will get in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffs on Tour on November 20, 2017, 11:40:28 PM
Anyone at the U21 semi finals on Sunday?

Rossa seemed to run out well against St Brigid's, favourites for the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 21, 2017, 01:37:49 PM
Interesting piece in the Irish News on Lenny's plans and squad for the season. Worth reading.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2017, 02:41:08 PM
TOWERING midfielder Niall McKeever has rejoined the Antrim senior football panel after stepping away from the set-up last season.

The Portglenone clubman, who spent a few years with Aussie Rules club Brisbane Lions, is not the only old face expected to return to the fold in 2018.

New manager Lenny Harbinson is hoping to persuade several other former county players come back on board.

"I'm still talking to a few players behind the scenes to see if they can commit," said Harbinson, who was reluctant to announce their names at this stage.

"They're probably holding back to see what the new set-up is like.

"A few of them are creeping towards the latter end of their county careers and they have a few years left in them for their clubs. So they're considering things."

Alongside McKeever, Moneyglass forward Colin Duffin has rejoined the squad after a couple of years away from the county scene.

And Harbinson confirmed that Dublin-based players Mark Sweeney and Peter Healy have declared for the Saffrons ahead of the new season.

Sweeney has been a hugely influential player for Antrim and was a key player for last year's management team Frank Fitzsimons and Gearoid Adams.

Rookie defender Healy, who is studying in UCD, made a glowing impression in 2017 and Harbinson is delighted to have him on board.

"Mark Sweeney and Peter Healy, both of whom are in Dublin, will be involved," said the St Gall's man. "Peter, who is a cracking footballer, is injured at the minute and should be back in the next few weeks.

"I've been saying to those boys: 'Stay in Dublin – don't come up during the week' and we can get a programme down to them and they can come up at the weekend because we do a strength and conditioning session on Saturdays and some tactical stuff on a Sundays at Dunsilly."

Forwards Conor Small and Owen Gallagher who played in 2017 won't be involved next season. Small, a gifted young footballer, has decided to go travelling while Glenavy ace Gallagher is still based in Galway.

Harbinson acknowledged assembling a new squad and backroom team has taken immense effort but he has been greatly encouraged by the support he's received from the county board and from clubs.

"There's been a very positive response throughout the county – over 20 clubs put players forward for the trial games, players who were not involved at all last year," said Harbinson.

"So it was good to see the interest from the clubs and starting that process of re-connecting with them.

"The county board has been very supportive too in what we're trying to do."

The vast majority of last year's squad that fell to back-to-back Championship defeats to Donegal and Sligo are back involved under the new management team.

"The fitness of the squad is not bad for this time of year.

"A lot of modern footballers look after themselves so they've been training away on their own prior to me taking over.

"Out of the trial matches we probably brought in eight or nine new faces. And from last year's Championship panel there are one or two players that have dipped out because of injury or university.

"But it's my intention to go with a squad of 26 or 28 players. I want to work with a tight panel and to work with them intensively because we're playing catch up."

Antrim also find themselves in Division Four next season.

Harbinson has been surprised by the high amount of injuries he's encountered in pre-season.

"I think the reason why some players are injured is because they haven't been doing foam rolling, basic stretching.

"At Ballymacnab, the players did their foam rolling before and after training sessions, which is necessary to increase flexibility and avoid injury.

Brendan Trainer, who worked with Harbinson at Ballymacnab up until this season, will be Antrim's new assistant manager.

Fintan Devlin of Loup is the squad's new strength and conditioning coach, St Agnes' clubman Roy McLarnon (kit man), St Brigid's Oliver Lennon (logistics), Aghgallon's Peter Bunting (goalkeeping coach), Barry McManus (video analsysis) and Johnny Kelly (physio) complete Harbinson's backroom team.

"The McKenna Cup will give me a couple of early games to look at the panel in competitive situations," noted Harbinson,

"The McKenna Cup [group stages] will be played Wednesday, Sunday, Wednesday and the teams coming out of the groups will be playing the following weekend.

"Then the National League starts in the last weekend of January and runs right through to March. So once you hit January it's all guns blazing."

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 21, 2017, 01:37:49 PM
Interesting piece in the Irish News on Lenny's plans and squad for the season. Worth reading.
Are u feeling more optimistic BB..... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 21, 2017, 11:26:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 21, 2017, 01:37:49 PM
Interesting piece in the Irish News on Lenny's plans and squad for the season. Worth reading.

go Lenny...

The rest of you negativity posters; quiet. I'm tired  ;)

P.s.
Bottle it till end February.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2017, 10:32:37 PM
To be honest I would like to see a few more proven forwards on the panel. I heard today from sources in Ballymena that Matt Fitzpatrick turned down a contract with Ballymena Utd to play for Antrim footballers. If true, well done, we need players of this calibre, especially forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 09:54:26 AM
So the Bel Tel, always huge supporters of the Association have their say on Antrim affairs..... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2017, 11:48:18 AM
What about the content? Anything at all you are happy with in there....a blind man can see meaningful progress to be fair about  the thing!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 02:39:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2017, 11:48:18 AM
What about the content? Anything at all you are happy with in there....a blind man can see meaningful progress to be fair about  the thing!
Content has omission and inaccuracy aplenty BS, but the source is more questionable emanating from a newspaper which only pays lip service to our Association and penned by one who would not have a clue on how to get to Miltown, Cargin, O'Cahan park or indeed any other unit in our county.
You consider him as qualified to pass opinion on the direction Antrim needs to take.....?  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2017, 04:14:54 PM
What about the £1.5million funding secured for coaching in Belfast which will free up additional coaches for SW and N.A. too. Or the new relationship with Casement Park social club which has raised over £60k in the last two years.

Anyone impressed with that? I definitely am!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 06:55:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2017, 04:14:54 PM
What about the £1.5million funding secured for coaching in Belfast which will free up additional coaches for SW and N.A. too. Or the new relationship with Casement Park social club which has raised over £60k in the last two years.

Anyone impressed with that? I definitely am!
Well that £1.5 mil is certainly a tribute to the endeavours of Dr Young in particular and certainly the SW and North will welcome any crumbs.
As for the Social Club....well our own in Cargin always provides without query or question.....

But the question posed is ....."the rights or otherwise of a newspaper or a scribe therein to tell, or even suggest a way forward for a body which they have always shunned or kept at arm's length"...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2017, 09:10:43 PM
But if the Irish News comes out with something similar (ie highlighting the good work being done) youll be happy to give the thumbs up and say fair play these boys are making a difference. Yes/No?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2017, 09:10:43 PM
But if the Irish News comes out with something similar (ie highlighting the good work being done) youll be happy to give the thumbs up and say fair play these boys are making a difference. Yes/No?
Difference will be perceived when we win something....BS.
As the bard said "All that glitters etc.........".
Seems u got inside info Bannside......u been talking to Mr Crossan....or speaking to the PR man...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2017, 09:10:43 PM
But if the Irish News comes out with something similar (ie highlighting the good work being done) youll be happy to give the thumbs up and say fair play these boys are making a difference. Yes/No?
Difference will be perceived when we win something....BS.
As the bard said "All that glitters etc.........".
Seems u got inside info Bannside......u been talking to Mr Crossan....or speaking to the PR man...?

Win something? Like an All Ireland?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 09:45:59 PM

Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2017, 09:10:43 PM
But if the Irish News comes out with something similar (ie highlighting the good work being done) youll be happy to give the thumbs up and say fair play these boys are making a difference. Yes/No?
Difference will be perceived when we win something....BS.
As the bard said "All that glitters etc.........".
Seems u got inside info Bannside......u been talking to Mr Crossan....or speaking to the PR man...?

Win something? Like an All Ireland?
A first round championship win would be a start.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:11:50 PM
And not asking those chosen to wear Saffron to bring packed lunches or asking our new manager to organise a fund raiser.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:11:50 PM
And not asking those chosen to wear Saffron to bring packed lunches or asking our new manager to organise a fund raiser.

Who have we in the first round next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:11:50 PM
And not asking those chosen to wear Saffron to bring packed lunches or asking our new manager to organise a fund raiser.

Who have we in the first round next year?
Down......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 10:11:50 PM
And not asking those chosen to wear Saffron to bring packed lunches or asking our new manager to organise a fund raiser.

Who have we in the first round next year?
Down......

Should certainly beat a team like Down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 11:00:49 PM
Indeed..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2017, 11:29:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 11:00:49 PM
Indeed..

I'd say most teams that are two leagues apart, Div 4 and Div2 fancy to win those games, be like Cargin playing St Aggies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2017, 07:57:21 AM
Cargin are finished....according to some, so the Aggies may well prove a handful ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 24, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2017, 06:55:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2017, 04:14:54 PM
What about the £1.5million funding secured for coaching in Belfast which will free up additional coaches for SW and N.A. too. Or the new relationship with Casement Park social club which has raised over £60k in the last two years.

Anyone impressed with that? I definitely am!
Well that £1.5 mil is certainly a tribute to the endeavours of Dr Young in particular and certainly the SW and North will welcome any crumbs.
As for the Social Club....well our own in Cargin always provides without query or question.....

But the question posed is ....."the rights or otherwise of a newspaper or a scribe therein to tell, or even suggest a way forward for a body which they have always shunned or kept at arm's length"...?

Wow, you are a crier...
They report little on us, you moan, they report with an interesting enough article, you're crying. Like a baby. You'd ruin'd love when it is built anew...

Change is good, this is progress, why knock it - you need some vision man...
I must have a look at the back pages in the newsletter and sentinel to see progress

As regards rights, it is now a free country, maybe not state just yet, all of them should be encouraged to write about the gaa, in a positive way.

Ps. all publicity is good publicity, and free
Pss. misery makes sport to mock itself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
You come across as a very bitter man CB. Surely you can find a way of saying something positive about the developments taking place, delivered by the current regime, that are clear to see.

Go on, say something positive. It cant hurt that much!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2017, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 24, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
You come across as a very bitter man CB. Surely you can find a way of saying something positive about the developments taking place, delivered by the current regime, that are clear to see.

Go on, say something positive. It cant hurt that much!

He'd much prefer to be in Derry sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 24, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 24, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
You come across as a very bitter man CB. Surely you can find a way of saying something positive about the developments taking place, delivered by the current regime, that are clear to see.

Go on, say something positive. It cant hurt that much!
Jeez BS u need to start having opinion of your own rather than following the lead (bogieman).
Now why would I be bitter I ask you....sure I am from Cargin and always stand proud of my club's achievements both on and off the field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 24, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
u21b final moved to Sunday now.

will be at the game myself, fingers crossed we can win a first title at this level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffs on Tour on November 24, 2017, 08:26:28 PM
Great article in the Bel tel, delighted to see that even the challenging parties to Saffron Vision are fulsome in their acknowledgement of achievements to date re the Saffron Business Forum and the Belfast Plan which will kick in soon and be a massive boost to the whole county. Somewhat bizarre of course to lay all the credit at the door of the Ulster Council and Antrim county secretary, but it perhaps underlines a lack of knowledge of county structures more than anything else.

I remember Pauric Duffy not long ago appearing at a Q&A night at an Antrim club (perhaps St Galls?) and he was very clear in saying that a blank chequebook was not the way forward for Belfast and indeed Antrim as a whole. He intimated that once Antrim had the house in order at board level and came forward with a detailed strategic plan then HQ would fund accordingly. This plan alongside other developments are surely the start of the that and must be of great satisfaction to those volunteers who have made huge sacrifices to achieve them.

With no disrespect to the administration previous to Saffron Vision, themselves volunteers with their hearts in the right place, I have no doubt that this current progress would not have taken place had they remained in situ. A gentle reminder of the risks we pose to ourselves by opting for a return of the old guard.

And on that topic in general, aside from not being Saffron Vision, what are the policies/proposals of the challenging group?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2017, 08:53:30 PM
Great post Saffs. No one in their right mind could argue with a word of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on November 24, 2017, 11:48:41 PM
Sorry to burst ur bubble but sv has only done what any comittee in any club/county is required.the old regime was that bad the would make anyone who tried look good. Il reserve judgement until i see proper infrastructure at all levels not just hurling in which seems to be there main objective.previous regimes have squandered plenty of miney before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2017, 12:04:28 AM
Quote from: Galer on November 24, 2017, 11:48:41 PM
Sorry to burst ur bubble but sv has only done what any comittee in any club/county is required.the old regime was that bad the would make anyone who tried look good. Il reserve judgement until i see proper infrastructure at all levels not just hurling in which seems to be there main objective.previous regimes have squandered plenty of miney before

Have you applied for any posts this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 25, 2017, 02:15:22 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 25, 2017, 12:27:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2017, 06:42:52 PM
Aghagallon?

No disrespect of course.

Yeah Aghagallon. A few good minors and Un21s there. A system of play which suits all players and has been worked on over a few season.
Aye.

Well, we finally won an U21 after many attempts.
Build...keep building...put roof on.

Congrats to rossa on winning u21 championship. Not sure of the Aghagallon reference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2017, 02:55:34 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2017, 06:24:53 PM
Well done Hardstation that was a great minor team. Can't see you beat in under 21 either. Plenty of talent coming through your ranks. Challenge is can you bring enough through to senior level.

Well done HS. Some great players. Enough ammunition there to be a real force in Antrim Football for the next ten years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 25, 2017, 11:33:38 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 25, 2017, 12:27:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2017, 06:42:52 PM
Aghagallon?

No disrespect of course.

Yeah Aghagallon. A few good minors and Un21s there. A system of play which suits all players and has been worked on over a few season.
Aye.

Well, we finally won an U21 after many attempts.
Build...keep building...put roof on.

And?

Fair play to Rossa, great work being done there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2017, 08:24:25 PM
So Cargin have a new senior manager..........some would say 'clutching at straws'.... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
Whoever he is I'm sure his first task will be to win a game in Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
Whoever he is I'm sure his first task will be to win a game in Ulster
Still haven't read "Ozymandias" MR2.......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2017, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 25, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
Whoever he is I'm sure his first task will be to win a game in Ulster
Still haven't read "Ozymandias" MR2.......?

Is that the story of being shit outside of our own county? Haven't read it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
And here I am thinking you were a literary giant..... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2017, 11:55:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 25, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
And here I am thinking you were a literary giant..... :'(

Small books, ones with not many words, Cargins ventures in Ulster :o is a great book, doesn't take long to read
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 26, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
All the big clubs in Antrim could go to Armagh today to see how to do Ulster... comprehensively 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 27, 2017, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 26, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
All the big clubs in Antrim could go to Armagh today to see how to do Ulster... comprehensively 8)

Hows that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2017, 11:09:15 AM
I hear there was a late night in Randalstown as they celebrated their first big trophy in a few years coming from behind to beat Dunloy to win the Roger Casement Memorial Cup for Antrim U21 B championship. Some good players on both teams. Lamh Dhearg only beat Randalstown by a point in an earlier round, and went close themselves in the A final against winners Rossa.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2017, 11:16:12 AM
Should add that Randalstown were managed by their senior manager Damien Scotchy Hagan who is one of our own clubmen in Portglenone, having moved here a good few years from Moortown, having played for Tyrone for many years.

He is just one of five Casements clubmen who are managing presently at other clubs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 27, 2017, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2017, 11:16:12 AM
Should add that Randalstown were managed by their senior manager Damien Scotchy Hagan who is one of our own clubmen in Portglenone, having moved here a good few years from Moortown, having played for Tyrone for many years.

He is just one of five Casements clubmen who are managing presently at other clubs!

You said that like it was a badge of honour BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 27, 2017, 01:09:30 PM
One of 5 earning money from other clubs or free of charge?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2017, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 27, 2017, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2017, 11:16:12 AM
Should add that Randalstown were managed by their senior manager Damien Scotchy Hagan who is one of our own clubmen in Portglenone, having moved here a good few years from Moortown, having played for Tyrone for many years.

He is just one of five Casements clubmen who are managing presently at other clubs!

You said that like it was a badge of honour BS?
Yep BS does tend to nail the saffron and black to the mast...and sometimes economical with facts...

Tir na Nog are indeed a good side and Scotchy aided by Oran Mc Neilly are a fine management duo......but in fact the Blues were on the wrong side of a 1-13 to 0-09 reversal at Hannahstow in the grading round. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
I stand corrected on that scoreline. On the issue of payment, havent a clue who is getting what. What clubs haven't paid anyone to date. There can't be many left that haven't offered at some stage.

If a club makes a generous offer to reimburse you for your services, should you turn it down? Would you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 27, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
I stand corrected on that scoreline. On the issue of payment, havent a clue who is getting what. What clubs haven't paid anyone to date. There can't be many left that haven't offered at some stage.

If a club makes a generous offer to reimburse you for your services, should you turn it down? Would you?


You're not allowed, simple.
Easy thing to fudge it when coin is involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 27, 2017, 05:54:16 PM
disappointing for our lads. they played for 50mins and then the last 10 it fell apart. Hit the cross bar and missed two other goal chances cost us big time.

No complaints at the end up, they got the goals when it mattered. the first put them 1-07 to 0-09 up and the more we pushed we made mistakes and they broke and got the second.

Its actually our first ever U21 final and they only lose 1 or 2 for next year.

Great facilities BS, top notch pitch for this time of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2017, 08:19:48 PM
Great to see Dunloy showing real promise with the big ball. Obvious lot of work has been done there and of course you have Shean Elliott to come into that panel as well as Cathair Mc Guigan  who caught my eye at HB in last year's minor final. Hopefully those players will come back good and hungry next year for a crack at the A.

Regarding facilities yea we are well pleased. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2017, 09:28:48 PM
Dunloy have always had very good footballers. It's managing the dual thing they seem to struggle with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 27, 2017, 10:07:39 PM

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Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2017, 11:16:12 AM
Should add that Randalstown were managed by their senior manager Damien Scotchy Hagan who is one of our own clubmen in Portglenone, having moved here a good few years from Moortown, having played for Tyrone for many years.

He is just one of five Casements clubmen who are managing presently at other clubs!
5? Scotchy mckeever Madden who else big kidd?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2017, 11:04:37 PM
Yes Kidd at Ballerin...and Brian Burns at Bryansford. That's the former Down full back with 2 All Ireland medals . Married and settled here for 10 years now. Also (along with John Mc Keever) doing great work with our juveniles.

Welcome on board. Youve waited quite a while for your first post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 28, 2017, 10:38:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 27, 2017, 09:28:48 PM
Dunloy have always had very good footballers. It's managing the dual thing they seem to struggle with.

its hard to keep a fine balance at minor to U21 to senior level for both codes as the demands on the players is massive compared to a single code club. The majority of them lads have played minor hurling and football, U21 Hurling and football as well as county and schools on top of the that. the older lads have played senior hurling and football all year as well and are currently training with Antrim senior hurlers.

I know we lost the Minor B, U21b and intermediate finals but its more encouraging that we have made all of them along with wining the U16b county title. Thats 4 County finals as well as the 3 County finals in the hurling (Minor, U21 & Senior) so all in its been a very good year.

i dont think we struggle at all, its just not easy to win them all!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on December 05, 2017, 10:20:06 AM
I see from twitter Lenny was presenting at Convention last night. Anyone see the presentation or hear any feedback from the clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 05, 2017, 10:42:43 AM
I was there PJoe.  Lenny presented really well and urged club delegates to get behind the county team and encourage players to make themselves available. He came across as very organised and articulate (no surprises there) and has a plan for how he hopes to deliver it.

It's important the whole county gets behind him now. Though I was a strong advocate for JMKs bid, I also see a lot to like about what Lenny is doing and the way he is going about it. But more importantly the players are starting to say good things about the set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on December 05, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 05, 2017, 10:42:43 AM
I was there PJoe.  Lenny presented really well and urged club delegates to get behind the county team and encourage players to make themselves available. He came across as very organised and articulate (no surprises there) and has a plan for how he hopes to deliver it.

It's important the whole county gets behind him now. Though I was a strong advocate for JMKs bid, I also see a lot to like about what Lenny is doing and the way he is going about it. But more importantly the players are starting to say good things about the set up.

Thanks BS. Hopefully we get clubs and players behind Lenny & team. And hopefully Lenny & team continue to build confidence inside and outside the squad. Not expecting to "build Rome in a day", however I hope we see some of this starting to transfer to on pitch performance and results too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 07, 2017, 11:38:42 AM
See the fixtures for the McKenna Cup are out. We host Cavan in Glenavy and St Mary's at Woodlands after starting with a trip to Healy Park. Away to Tyrone....thats a daunting prospect to kick off a new managerial reign!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on December 07, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
Has woodlands had a revamp? Years since i was at it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 07, 2017, 05:57:37 PM
Yes the top pitch is now 3g (or more likely 4G) and is floodlit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 07, 2017, 06:24:24 PM
Space for about 40 spectators
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2017, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 07, 2017, 06:24:24 PM
Space for about 40 spectators

Be spaces left then!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 07, 2017, 09:34:13 PM
Aye.. st Mary's would bring at least 40  students !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 08, 2017, 10:52:59 AM
Good news that Woodlands gets a game, a very good set up.

Some of those who have left the place may want to see it again aslong as they don't insult the natives.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 08, 2017, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 08, 2017, 10:52:59 AM
Good news that Woodlands gets a game, a very good set up.

Some of those who have left the place may want to see it again aslong as they don't insult the natives.

Very good spot at Beechmout, Coláiste Feirste, 3G floodlit pitch although the bare minimum length ways, 130 metres I presume as one line was for both 65's.
Dead on for kids though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 11:56:19 AM
Davitts i think have bought into that also. all to be developed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 08, 2017, 12:47:12 PM
Thought Davits had found a spot up behind Corpus Christie college?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 01:10:01 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 08, 2017, 12:47:12 PM
Thought Davits had found a spot up behind Corpus Christie college?

Oh? the old school all weather pitches of my old school?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 08, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Michael Davitt GAC are proud to announce that work on our new pitch (in collaboration with Corpus Christie College) and associated facilities started earlier this week.

Throughout our illustrious 105 year history, Michael Davitt GAC has never had a pitch that we could really call home but now our dream will soon come true.

It has been a long and arduous journey to get to this stage but the commitment and determination of our club committee, and in particular our chairman Tommy Shaw, to realise our goals never ceased.

With the help of local Sinn Féin councillors, particularly Cllr Ciaran Beattie and Cllr Jim McVeigh, Sinn Féin MLA Fra McCann, our local MP Paul Maskey, Belfast City Council, schools, the local Parish, Diocese, Space & Place, BIFFA and local residents, a barren piece of land that once blighted the area will soon be a state of the art facility, benefiting the whole community. We would like to offer our thanks to you all for your assistance and support. Without you all this project would not have been possible.

Go raibh míle maith agaibh.

This £1.5m project will consist of a full size Gaelic pitch complete with spectator stand, changing rooms, hurling wall, 4G training pitch with floodlights, car park, children's playground, outdoor gym and highway to health walkway/TRIM trail and should complete in approx 44 weeks.

We welcome the co-operation, understanding and support from the residents of St Marys Gardens over the upcoming weeks.

Finally, we look forward to providing a hub for our beloved sports to the local community and beyond.

Davitts Abú
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
Great stuff and a new area that hasnt got a traditional Gaa following, if I'm being honest, so hopefully they can tap into the local schools and encourage more boys and girls to play GAA..

Having grown up around there myself there wasnt much Gaa going on, the local prrimary school didnt even have a team.

having went to a CBS primary we'd nothing else but GAA, with Davitts funny enough doing a lot of work as they were the nearest based club to the school... Beechmount had a mixture of Rossa, Davitts, couple of Johnnies lads, struggling now to think, and there wasnt more than a handfull of families that played in that whole area, which on reflection is poor, considering the numbers, around 5,500 people living there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 08, 2017, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
Great stuff and a new area that hasnt got a traditional Gaa following, if I'm being honest, so hopefully they can tap into the local schools and encourage more boys and girls to play GAA..

Having grown up around there myself there wasnt much Gaa going on, the local prrimary school didnt even have a team.

having went to a CBS primary we'd nothing else but GAA, with Davitts funny enough doing a lot of work as they were the nearest based club to the school... Beechmount had a mixture of Rossa, Davitts, couple of Johnnies lads, struggling now to think, and there wasnt more than a handfull of families that played in that whole area, which on reflection is poor, considering the numbers, around 5,500 people living there

Crisis!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2017, 05:24:24 PM
Can recall the Davitts in div one......looks like the Twinbrook men mean business...smashing news..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 08, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
Great stuff Davitts. Fantastic news for the gaels in the area and something that will help promote our national games in an area big into soccer. Another good news story.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2017, 05:24:24 PM
Can recall the Davitts in div one......looks like the Twinbrook men mean business...smashing news..

Would never have labelled them as Twinbrook men, where'd that come from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2017, 05:24:24 PM
Can recall the Davitts in div one......looks like the Twinbrook men mean business...smashing news..

Would never have labelled them as Twinbrook men, where'd that come from?

His geography of belfast is like you city boys geography of the country ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 09, 2017, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2017, 05:24:24 PM
Can recall the Davitts in div one......looks like the Twinbrook men mean business...smashing news..

Would never have labelled them as Twinbrook men, where'd that come from?

His geography of belfast is like you city boys geography of the country ;D

Did Davitt's not have a 'pitch' at Twinbrook back in the days of Div One tenancy...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2017, 11:39:58 AM
There was a council pitch that they played on, but they are your only now lower Falls road club!

No McDermots or Dywers or Clonard anymore
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
Essential that due to the sheer numbers involved, this is prime area for targeting huge growth. Literally hundreds of potential players slipping through the net there. The next generation should see lots of them aspire to wear Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2017, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
Essential that due to the sheer numbers involved, this is prime area for targeting huge growth. Literally hundreds of potential players slipping through the net there. The next generation should see lots of them aspire to wear Saffron.
Dlelighted to see Davitts get their own home pitch after all these years. They have had to play in Boucher,Falls Park and Twinbrook over the years and keep the club going
Great and overdue development but as someone else pointed out there used to be McDermots, Clonard and Dwyers on the Falls Road and none of these clubs field any more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 09, 2017, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2017, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
Essential that due to the sheer numbers involved, this is prime area for targeting huge growth. Literally hundreds of potential players slipping through the net there. The next generation should see lots of them aspire to wear Saffron.
Dlelighted to see Davitts get their own home pitch after all these years. They have had to play in Boucher,Falls Park and Twinbrook over the years and keep the club going
Great and overdue development but as someone else pointed out there used to be McDermots, Clonard and Dwyers on the Falls Road and none of these clubs field any more

Indeed ur right Belfast man, and glad to learn that I am not approaching senility.....agreeing the Davitt's men did have a home base at Twinbrook at a time.
Is their 'social club' not in the same area?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2017, 04:30:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 09, 2017, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2017, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
Essential that due to the sheer numbers involved, this is prime area for targeting huge growth. Literally hundreds of potential players slipping through the net there. The next generation should see lots of them aspire to wear Saffron.
Dlelighted to see Davitts get their own home pitch after all these years. They have had to play in Boucher,Falls Park and Twinbrook over the years and keep the club going
Great and overdue development but as someone else pointed out there used to be McDermots, Clonard and Dwyers on the Falls Road and none of these clubs field any more

Indeed ur right Belfast man, and glad to learn that I am not approaching senility.....agreeing the Davitt's men did have a home base at Twinbrook at a time.
Is their 'social club' not in the same area?
no their social club is and always has been in the lower falls - think they have been let down by Belfast City Council in the past re support for their own pitch but they never gave up - fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2017, 04:36:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 09, 2017, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2017, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
Essential that due to the sheer numbers involved, this is prime area for targeting huge growth. Literally hundreds of potential players slipping through the net there. The next generation should see lots of them aspire to wear Saffron.
Dlelighted to see Davitts get their own home pitch after all these years. They have had to play in Boucher,Falls Park and Twinbrook over the years and keep the club going
Great and overdue development but as someone else pointed out there used to be McDermots, Clonard and Dwyers on the Falls Road and none of these clubs field any more

Indeed ur right Belfast man, and glad to learn that I am not approaching senility.....agreeing the Davitt's men did have a home base at Twinbrook at a time.
Is their 'social club' not in the same area?

Do you still think they are a Twinbrook club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2017, 12:47:15 PM
Hearing the "Sean Stinson's" project is concluded..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
why would that be CB? i didnt think their was the right numbers more so on the Cloney end to allow one team each
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2017, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
why would that be CB? i didnt think their was the right numbers more so on the Cloney end to allow one team each

Don't know the reasoning but hear it is a fact which may well have negative consequences for the Ahoghill based juveniles.
Heard rumour of such a few months back....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 12, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
Fitzy didn't take long getting back into management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 12, 2017, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 12, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
Fitzy didn't take long getting back into management

Where he go Mac.......Fitzy a good lad and hope he does well.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 12, 2017, 09:09:49 PM
Drop ya a dm. Don't think it's confirmed yet. Statement of intent if true. Good luck to him. Good coach etc just don't think he was at the level for county management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2017, 11:09:02 PM
Antrim minors again??? Heard something along these lines a week or two back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2017, 09:09:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 12, 2017, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
why would that be CB? i didnt think their was the right numbers more so on the Cloney end to allow one team each

Don't know the reasoning but hear it is a fact which may well have negative consequences for the Ahoghill based juveniles.
Heard rumour of such a few months back....

heard this last night as well from someone else. Confirmed what you said with regards to the negative consequences for Ahoghill. They are not happy about it, and understandably so. they dont have the numbers to put out teams in all grades but you understand Portglenone's point of view. If they have the numbers then they need to be looking after their own club players first and foremost.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2017, 10:51:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 12, 2017, 11:09:02 PM
Antrim minors again??? Heard something along these lines a week or two back.
talking of minor are we still u18 at club level? everyone seems to have a different view...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2017, 03:00:15 PM
Think club will be under-18 in 2018.....
And in county minor management I will really be surprised if Fitzy is even considering that position after the goings on this term in a one sided austerity imposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 13, 2017, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2017, 03:00:15 PM
Think club will be under-18 in 2018.....
And in county minor management I will really be surprised if Fitzy is even considering that position after the goings on this term in a one sided austerity imposition.

Fitzys over a div 1 side is the talk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 13, 2017, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 13, 2017, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2017, 03:00:15 PM
Think club will be under-18 in 2018.....
And in county minor management I will really be surprised if Fitzy is even considering that position after the goings on this term in a one sided austerity imposition.

Fitzys over a div 1 side is the talk.

Great appointment for them if it happens.

Where will it leave the Ahoghill and Portglenone clubs now the Stinsons team has folded? Sad to see in my opinion. I suppose it's one of the problems with almalgamations, keeping everybody happy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
How long have stinsons been going? I never remember a time they weren't there.

I think portglenone would be fine but ahoghill would be low on numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2017, 07:21:52 PM
Going 40 years exactly ITG. Some great memories including 4 in a row minor championship medals. Some people were doing their best to hold back the tide, but in the end the vast majority of our club members wanted to promote one brand only. As one member stated, as juveniles passed through minor but possibly weren't good enough to play senior, they dropped out without ever really having any allegiance to Roger Casements and never ever got the chance to wear their club colours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Yeah i remember your 4 in a row well. A few very good prospects never made it through to senior but always the way.

I see your point about the never playing for casements thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 13, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 13, 2017, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2017, 03:00:15 PM
Think club will be under-18 in 2018.....
And in county minor management I will really be surprised if Fitzy is even considering that position after the goings on this term in a one sided austerity imposition.

Fitzys over a div 1 side is the talk.

St Endas?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Yeah i remember your 4 in a row well. A few very good prospects never made it through to senior but always the way.

I see your point about the never playing for casements thing.

Remember that 4 in a row as well ITG......Paddy Logan's nine point haul out of a total of ten in a Stinson's winning total ......

Casement's do believe they can go it alone but can't help but feel for the Cloney men who will no doubt endure the consequences of the split and the death knell may well be tolling in the distance..........really hope not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on December 13, 2017, 11:19:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2017, 07:21:52 PM
Going 40 years exactly ITG. Some great memories including 4 in a row minor championship medals. Some people were doing their best to hold back the tide, but in the end the vast majority of our club members wanted to promote one brand only. As one member stated, as juveniles passed through minor but possibly weren't good enough to play senior, they dropped out without ever really having any allegiance to Roger Casements and never ever got the chance to wear their club colours.

Bannside

Surprised at this  I always thought Sean Stinsons really brought Portglenone and Ahoghill forward.

I might be wrong here but were both teams not hanging around the junior championship beforehand.
Now both in Div 1 and playing Senior Championship...

Also think it really improved the SW juvenile leagues. Stinsons raised the standards  others raised the game and have overtaken them

Even more surprising given your comments below from a previous post which I have seen first hand.

U14's this year barely getting a score in the B league


"Regards the amalgamation thing.  It's not a new idea specific to Antrim or Belfast. It's a conversation that is going on all around thd country and will hit hard into rural areas too if if hasn't already.  People having smaller families and many primary school classes getting much smaller on size. Even the reasonably successful Sean Stinsons combo with both parishes involved will see a few years where they will find it hard to get a team gathered up."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2017, 12:46:07 PM
Those were genuine sentiments at the time Blindside but the vast majority of our club members, after a lengthy debate, weighed up all the pros and the downsides too, and opted to go solo.

I can't divulge the contents of the debate, that's for club members only, but last year the motion to remain went through with ease, and this year it was the opposite.

I can assure you though that the when someone mentioned the welfare of Ahoghill juveniles missing out on football, this was counteracted by the sentiment that they are more than welcome to play for us and can sign to Ahoghill after their juvenile days are over. We won't be responsible for youngsters not getting a chance to play the game, but the majority of our club members insisted this would need to be done in our colours and in our name.

The same way as young hurlers in the area who used to play in the name of Sean Stinsons now do so in Ahoghills Red and Black in the name of Cooney Gaels. So despite CB's concern, all St Mary's gaels who want to play GAA should still get the chance to do so, and quite rightly so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on December 14, 2017, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2017, 12:46:07 PM
Those were genuine sentiments at the time Blindside but the vast majority of our club members, after a lengthy debate, weighed up all the pros and the downsides too, and opted to go solo.

I can't divulge the contents of the debate, that's for club members only, but last year the motion to remain went through with ease, and this year it was the opposite.

I can assure you though that the when someone mentioned the welfare of Ahoghill juveniles missing out on football, this was counteracted by the sentiment that they are more than welcome to play for us and can sign to Ahoghill after their juvenile days are over. We won't be responsible for youngsters not getting a chance to play the game, but the majority of our club members insisted this would need to be done in our colours and in our name.

The same way as young hurlers in the area who used to play in the name of Sean Stinsons now do so in Ahoghills Red and Black in the name of Cooney Gaels. So despite CB's concern, all St Mary's gaels who want to play GAA should still get the chance to do so, and quite rightly so.

The problem for Ahoghill is controlling who their kids play for and how they are going to build a loyalty for the club.

With the breakup of SS, Ahoghill kids can now play for; M'glass, Tir na Nog, Ballymena, Portglenone, Greenlough, Lavey, Cargin, Creggan.  If this happens, what affiliation will they have with Ahoghill after underage, there will be a greater threat of them remaining with the club they played underage with.

Great example, wasn't Rafferty who played with Lavey, (in an All Ireland club final) an Ahoghill lad who played underage with Lavey and stayed with them up into senior football?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
Yes there's always that risk but of bigger concern to them may be the number of young males in their parish. It's certainly a lot less than in previous years. It's a challenge they need to face up to themselves and personally I hope they can because there are a lot of good people there who are fighting hard to preserve their identity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 14, 2017, 06:34:04 PM


The problem for Ahoghill is controlling who their kids play for and how they are going to build a loyalty for the club.

With the breakup of SS, Ahoghill kids can now play for; M'glass, Tir na Nog, Ballymena, Portglenone, Greenlough, Lavey, Cargin, Creggan.  If this happens, what affiliation will they have with Ahoghill after underage, there will be a greater threat of them remaining with the club they played underage with.

Great example, wasn't Rafferty who played with Lavey, (in an All Ireland club final) an Ahoghill lad who played underage with Lavey and stayed with them up into senior football?
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Kickham he didn't play juvenile for Lavey. He played for SS (early days). He actually played a bit of Senior for Ahoghill. If memory serves me right he played in a junior final for them against PG1   (could be wrong on this). He joined Lavey as a Senior

Makes the split seem all the stranger as when SS got their act together and dominated SW juvenile football both teams moved up the ranks from Junior. Both Div 1 and playing Senior football. The rise back boned by players from successful SS underage teams.

Not sure if PG1 have the numbers to get into SW A leagues on a regular basis

Not easy to develop Div 1 players / Senior Championship players from SW B juvenile leagues

   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
Is there such a thing as sw b juvenile leagues? there's a shield... Do some leagues split?

Portglenone would generally have as big a pick as a lot of other clubs in the sw would they not? Ahoghill wouldn't mind you. Ahoghill are very much backboned by a few families. I think it is similar for other small country clubs mind... Revolves round a few families so the fortunes of the senior team depends on where those families are agewise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 14, 2017, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
Is there such a thing as sw b juvenile leagues? there's a shield... Do some leagues split?

Portglenone would generally have as big a pick as a lot of other clubs in the sw would they not? Ahoghill wouldn't mind you. Ahoghill are very much backboned by a few families. I think it is similar for other small country clubs mind... Revolves round a few families so the fortunes of the senior team depends on where those families are agewise.
They run an u13 competition to grade for u14 leagues splits into A ( 8 teams) B (7 teams)

Would think PG1 would probably feature on average between 6 and 10th place in the pecking order which would probably mean roughly 50% of your teams in B league. 

Would say there is a reasonable correlation between teams consistently in A league and those playing Senior Championship / Div 1.

The standard in B league juvenile is pretty low with the bottom 2-3 teams usually struggling to field as the season progresses.

Hard place to develop senior talent from imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2017, 08:05:40 PM
I guess it is hard to say as relatively new.

I would say though if you were to list the ten you would have as good a pick as a number of them so if that is the reason for combining plenty of others could argue the same!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 15, 2017, 02:52:50 PM
I personally think it could be a  struggle for ahoghill going forward and portglenone to a lesser extent. success breeds success and no coincidence both clubs improved as their underage improved.  the sean stinsons era was usually dominated by portglenone players and a handful of the best of ahoghill. Perhaps there was an identity issue with portglenone as they couldn't really say 'the club' won a championship so have broke out on their own.  will Div b bring either of these clubs on? I doubt it but can understand how to have real pride in your club it has to be your own and not an amalgamation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 16, 2017, 10:54:54 AM
FQs motives will be explained at CC where your club delegates will have an opportunity to debate. In the meantime all club have received a communication asking them for their opinion.

Is this not how the democratic process works? Also, can't see how this recommendation would increase revenue, if as you say it's all about the money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2017, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2017, 10:54:54 AM
FQs motives will be explained at CC where your club delegates will have an opportunity to debate. In the meantime all club have received a communication asking them for their opinion.

Is this not how the democratic process works? Also, can't see how this recommendation would increase revenue, if as you say it's all about the money.
Clubs got an email on 15th Dec and asked for their opinion by 29th Dec - this is a major issue and this is really poor way to go about it. Also it wasn't mentioned at at convention

surely at this stage when many clubs have made their plans for 2018 on existing structures we should stay as is for 2018 and set up a working group to produce a detailed report on the changes and how they will improve antrim and if passed give the clubs more notice like in Sept of the year before changes take place....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 16, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
Would make sense to fall into line with national age groups but as you say, why such short notice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
Just back from a couple of minor games at the under 18 Ulster championship ( will that change age groups then?)

Enniskillen Gaels were impressive and Letterkenny edged out the Armagh winners in extra time

St. Paul's run a tight ship with this competition, well done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2017, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
Would make sense to fall into line with national age groups but as you say, why such short notice.
it is only national age groups at county level and that was leaving cert driven
Dublin clubs voted last year , after an extensive consultation, to stay at u18 at club level
This is too big an issue to rush and we are not ready in 2018 for this
What would senior managers make of a u20 league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: referee on December 16, 2017, 04:45:53 PM
Bannside Would the county not lift gate receipts from championship,and any lad who is fit to play u19/20 should be fit to play res/Sen

Sure they end up paying more expenses for referees for those games, so lose out surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 16, 2017, 05:35:50 PM
Good points. I haven't given this any thought and don't have a position on it. Just curious to know how it could be made out that the county would make more money with a new format.
Senior managers wont prefer an under 20 league and championship in 2019 that's for sure. Too big an overlap of players on both panels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 16, 2017, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
Just back from a couple of minor games at the under 18 Ulster championship ( will that change age groups then?)

Enniskillen Gaels were impressive and Letterkenny edged out the Armagh winners in extra time

St. Paul's run a tight ship with this competition, well done

Great tournament. Hopefully remains as under 18. Think it has to.

Who do rossa play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 16, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
I see in Martin Brehenys annual ratings Antrim are 27th for 2017. Fitzy and Adams must be disappointed in this, and Lennys challenge at the end of his tenure must be to see if he can get us out of the twenty somethings. Hopefully he can, someone needs to drive us out of this mediocrity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cca on December 19, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Yeah i remember your 4 in a row well. A few very good prospects never made it through to senior but always the way.

I see your point about the never playing for casements thing.

Sean Stinsons was formed in 1979
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cca on December 19, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
Is there such a thing as sw b juvenile leagues? there's a shield... Do some leagues split?

Portglenone would generally have as big a pick as a lot of other clubs in the sw would they not? Ahoghill wouldn't mind you. Ahoghill are very much backboned by a few families. I think it is similar for other small country clubs mind... Revolves round a few families so the fortunes of the senior team depends on where those families are agewise.

Flanker you're right that Fergal Rafferty didn't join Lavey as a juvenile; he played for Ahoghill seniors - too briefly - before transferring; as did his younger brother Gearoid who later transferred to Glenullin.

None of the Raffertys were playing when Ahoghill beat Portglenone in the 1992 JFC final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 19, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
I see in Martin Brehenys annual ratings Antrim are 27th for 2017. Fitzy and Adams must be disappointed in this, and Lennys challenge at the end of his tenure must be to see if he can get us out of the twenty somethings. Hopefully he can, someone needs to drive us out of this mediocrity.

So our current ranking is the fault of Fitzy and Gearoid BS......no blame attached to the players....... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 19, 2017, 09:15:41 PM
Quote from: cca on December 19, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
Is there such a thing as sw b juvenile leagues? there's a shield... Do some leagues split?

Portglenone would generally have as big a pick as a lot of other clubs in the sw would they not? Ahoghill wouldn't mind you. Ahoghill are very much backboned by a few families. I think it is similar for other small country clubs mind... Revolves round a few families so the fortunes of the senior team depends on where those families are agewise.

Flanker you're right that Fergal Rafferty didn't join Lavey as a juvenile; he played for Ahoghill seniors - too briefly - before transferring; as did his younger brother Gearoid who later transferred to Glenullin.

None of the Raffertys were playing when Ahoghill beat Portglenone in the 1992 JFC final.

CCA did Ahoghill get beat in a final mid 80's  PG1 won SW JFC in 85   I think he played in one around that time   Could have been against someone else though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 19, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
Read my post again CB. Adams and Fitzy will be disappointed with 27th. That's all I said. And they will be make no mistake about that. It's a very poor return and 27th does not represent progress. A look at the 2011 rankings and Antrim were 17th.

If Lenny can't get us out of the twenties he will be personally disappointed. Otherwise whats the point in stepping up if you don't think you can effect change for the better. For the record I think he will have a proper rattle at doing so.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
Those ratings are nonsense though. Do you think he has been to any of our games? It is a lottery down round the 20s where you get to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2017, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 19, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
I see in Martin Brehenys annual ratings Antrim are 27th for 2017. Fitzy and Adams must be disappointed in this, and Lennys challenge at the end of his tenure must be to see if he can get us out of the twenty somethings. Hopefully he can, someone needs to drive us out of this mediocrity.

So our current ranking is the fault of Fitzy and Gearoid BS......no blame attached to the players....... ???

I'll hold on to this post for a while, see how the season fairs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 20, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
Read my post again CB. Adams and Fitzy will be disappointed with 27th. That's all I said. And they will be make no mistake about that. It's a very poor return and 27th does not represent progress. A look at the 2011 rankings and Antrim were 17th.

If Lenny can't get us out of the twenties he will be personally disappointed. Otherwise whats the point in stepping up if you don't think you can effect change for the better. For the record I think he will have a proper rattle at doing so.


Anyone, and I repeat anyone could / should improve the Antrim rankings, so for Lenny the only way is, hopefully, up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2017, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 20, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
Read my post again CB. Adams and Fitzy will be disappointed with 27th. That's all I said. And they will be make no mistake about that. It's a very poor return and 27th does not represent progress. A look at the 2011 rankings and Antrim were 17th.

If Lenny can't get us out of the twenties he will be personally disappointed. Otherwise whats the point in stepping up if you don't think you can effect change for the better. For the record I think he will have a proper rattle at doing so.
Anyone know if the squad is training at better facilities this year or is the Business Forum money being used in some way to benefit the squad's preparations?


Anyone, and I repeat anyone could / should improve the Antrim rankings, so for Lenny the only way is, hopefully, up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 20, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 20, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
Read my post again CB. Adams and Fitzy will be disappointed with 27th. That's all I said. And they will be make no mistake about that. It's a very poor return and 27th does not represent progress. A look at the 2011 rankings and Antrim were 17th.

If Lenny can't get us out of the twenties he will be personally disappointed. Otherwise whats the point in stepping up if you don't think you can effect change for the better. For the record I think he will have a proper rattle at doing so.



Anyone, and I repeat anyone could / should improve the Antrim rankings, so for Lenny the only way is, hopefully, up.

That's a big statement did our last 4 managers not all leave us in Div 4 which would give at best a ranking of 25 when they finished or were shown the door ..... Realise some got improvement during there time but did any of the last 4 leave us in a better position than when they started..... Not that simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 21, 2017, 08:35:41 AM
I understand that Brehenys rating system is not an exact science, but it's consistent in that whatever barometer he uses it is the way we are viewed as a county by an independent arbitrator.

If he uses the same barometer that shows us in the top twenty by the time Lenny is finished then we should all agree that Lenny would have made progress. (By the way for the record I think he will). By the same token previous regimes (management/player/board) have failed miserably to make any noticeable progress...outside of Baker in his first year which illustrates that we do/did have players with the right qualities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 21, 2017, 11:09:26 AM
Quote from: Flanker on December 20, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 20, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
Read my post again CB. Adams and Fitzy will be disappointed with 27th. That's all I said. And they will be make no mistake about that. It's a very poor return and 27th does not represent progress. A look at the 2011 rankings and Antrim were 17th.

If Lenny can't get us out of the twenties he will be personally disappointed. Otherwise whats the point in stepping up if you don't think you can effect change for the better. For the record I think he will have a proper rattle at doing so.



Anyone, and I repeat anyone could / should improve the Antrim rankings, so for Lenny the only way is, hopefully, up.

That's a big statement did our last 4 managers not all leave us in Div 4 which would give at best a ranking of 25 when they finished or were shown the door ..... Realise some got improvement during there time but did any of the last 4 leave us in a better position than when they started..... Not that simple

I don't think it is a big statement. Some of things that happened last time out were simply unfathomable. Its been well documented on this site as to us following the same management formula and somehow expecting different results so wont regurgitate that argument but if Lenny has anything about him at all he will improve the rankings.  Whilst The Baker was no Mickey Harte, he was one of the few shining management lights (in Antrim Terms) in 50 years of dross. Only way is up.....even with Lenny.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 21, 2017, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 21, 2017, 08:35:41 AM
I understand that Brehenys rating system is not an exact science, but it's consistent in that whatever barometer he uses it is the way we are viewed as a county by an independent arbitrator.

If he uses the same barometer that shows us in the top twenty by the time Lenny is finished then we should all agree that Lenny would have made progress. (By the way for the record I think he will). By the same token previous regimes (management/player/board) have failed miserably to make any noticeable progress...outside of Baker in his first year which illustrates that we do/did have players with the right qualities.

To be fair Baker's second year was a success too. Beaten by Tyrone and then possibly the most heartening performance of the era, a draw away to Kildare before they beat us well in the replay. Got promoted to Div 2 that year too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 21, 2017, 01:34:44 PM
And who could ever forget Deaghlan O Hagans winning point in the last minute against Galway. Seems like a lifetime ago!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 21, 2017, 01:58:20 PM
Of course Lenny H is a very capable manager and arrives with a splendid CV, but the question remains as to the strength and depth at his disposal.
Or indeed will he be provided with full support in the provision of essentials for his charges...?
Hard to forget the goings on last term when our senior football management were forced to raise funds to provide such or being furnished with bills for unauthorised usage of shower caps... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 21, 2017, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 21, 2017, 01:34:44 PM
And who could ever forget Deaghlan O Hagans winning point in the last minute against Galway. Seems like a lifetime ago!

Absolutely - that must have been his 4th year I think? 2012? That was a huge win and v Tipp in the next round we were a couple of bloody centimetres away from a quarter final....Michael McCann nearly won it for us at the death. Very frustrating but a good year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 09:24:02 AM
Anyone any thoughts on the proposed new league structures? Apart from sarsfields somehow going from div 3 to div 1b the structure actually looks ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 30, 2017, 10:24:57 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on December 21, 2017, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 21, 2017, 01:34:44 PM
And who could ever forget Deaghlan O Hagans winning point in the last minute against Galway. Seems like a lifetime ago!

Absolutely - that must have been his 4th year I think? 2012? That was a huge win and v Tipp in the next round we were a couple of bloody centimetres away from a quarter final....Michael McCann nearly won it for us at the death. Very frustrating but a good year.

Beating Galway was unbelievable. To think we knocked them out of the AI Championship only 5 or so years ago is unbelievable

The Tipp game (which i was at) was an incredible missed opportunity.
A main player had headed away on a pre arranged holiday in the middle of the Championship and missed it. We couldn't afford that luxury, no competing county can

Those days were great and gave us hope. Baker was fantastic for us and was full of the positivity that we often lack

We have shot ourselves in the foot far too often like we did above....we must be one of the only counties not be play Championship in Croker in the past 50 years or so (even since the backdoor came in).

We need every potential player chomping at the bit to have any chance, committing for the full year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on December 30, 2017, 12:35:26 PM
Anyone have the proposed leagues in full?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 30, 2017, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 09:24:02 AM
Anyone any thoughts on the proposed new league structures? Apart from sarsfields somehow going from div 3 to div 1b the structure actually looks ok
As well as Glenavy being promoted from Div 2 to Div 1a while other Div 1 teams are put into 1b.

Didn't see that, just scanned it and the SARs one stood out. I meant that the idea of a 1a and b with 8 teams prob makes sense. Maybe the make up team wise needs tweaked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on December 30, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Sarsfield's and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I'd obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield's in 1B.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: Dreen on December 30, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Sarsfield's and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I'd obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield's in 1B.

I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2017, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: Dreen on December 30, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Sarsfield's and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I'd obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield's in 1B.
Where can you view these proposals? and what's the thinking behind them....
I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2017, 11:58:50 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2017, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: Dreen on December 30, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Sarsfield's and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I'd obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield's in 1B.
Where can you view these proposals? and what's the thinking behind them....
I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.
where can you view these proposals and what is thinking behind them?
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2017, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 30, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: Dreen on December 30, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Sarsfield's and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I'd obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield's in 1B.
Where can you view these proposals? and what's the thinking behind them....
I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 31, 2017, 12:49:44 PM
I seen a screen grab on twitter, not sure how to post it on the phone though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 31, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
The revamp of football league structures to 1A  1B  2 & 3 is a proposal for 2019 .

It is proposed to revamp reserve leagues to 3 divisions for 2018 only .

Div 1 , 2 and 3  to remain the same  for  2018 - finishing position in 2018 will be used for league status in 2019 .

(subject to approval at committee)  Revamp may be a way of managing the changes to calendar season and juggling football & hurling fixtures. frees up more weekends and hopefully less mid week fixtures.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 01, 2018, 10:20:21 AM
Then why has something got out with 2018 on it and teams actually named in proposed divisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 01, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
Quote from: Dreen on January 01, 2018, 10:20:21 AM
Then why has something got out with 2018 on it and teams actually named in pr
oposed divisions.

As far as I know, and haven't scanned league regulations and proposal to restructure must be for the following season....if accepted by County Committee..... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 03, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Some start 2 nite.it can only get better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2018, 10:03:23 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 03, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
Some start 2 nite.it can only get better

Who were they playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on January 04, 2018, 12:29:21 AM
Tyrone in second gear, Antrim no workrate, cj 2 stone overweight , Ballymena highest represented club. Its going to be our hardest season yet. We need to look past blaming managers as our players arnt at any sort of level to seriously compete, and lenny wont be able to change that during his term.
Thought tyrone eased off and let us get a few sxores last 5 minutes otherwise could have been 30 in it. Division 1 v division 4 and it showed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 08:04:58 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on January 04, 2018, 12:29:21 AM
Tyrone in second gear, Antrim no workrate, cj 2 stone overweight , Ballymena highest represented club. Its going to be our hardest season yet. We need to look past blaming managers as our players arnt at any sort of level to seriously compete, and lenny wont be able to change that during his term.
Thought tyrone eased off and let us get a few sxores last 5 minutes otherwise could have been 30 in it. Division 1 v division 4 and it showed.

That's the point! Top 8 team v a team ranked late 20's.. lads aren't fit either or been playing to a standard that Tyrone have..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 04, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
Top team in Ireland held to a draw v div 3 opposition.....really hope Lenny can work the oracle but he has some task ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 04, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
Top team in Ireland held to a draw v div 3 opposition.....really hope Lenny can work the oracle but he has some task ahead.

have you the Dublin teamsheet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 04, 2018, 09:23:39 AM
The result from last night sheds no light on Antrim's ability to get out of Div 4, which surely must be the priority for 2018?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on January 04, 2018, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 04, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
Top team in Ireland held to a draw v div 3 opposition.....really hope Lenny can work the oracle but he has some task ahead.

have you the Dublin teamsheet?
The Dublin football squad are on a team holiday in South Africa this week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:27:49 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 04, 2018, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 04, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
Top team in Ireland held to a draw v div 3 opposition.....really hope Lenny can work the oracle but he has some task ahead.

have you the Dublin teamsheet?
The Dublin football squad are on a team holiday in South Africa this week.

Apparently not, the man in the know said they were held to a draw by Div 3 team....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on January 04, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:27:49 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 04, 2018, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 04, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
Top team in Ireland held to a draw v div 3 opposition.....really hope Lenny can work the oracle but he has some task ahead.

have you the Dublin teamsheet?
The Dublin football squad are on a team holiday in South Africa this week.

Apparently not, the man in the know said they were held to a draw by Div 3 team....

Dublin are the top team in Ireland and they were held to draw by a division 3 team, he didn't say anything that wasn't a fact. Tyrone had 2/3's of their squad changed from last years heavy defeat to Dublin so it's not like we were playing their strongest outfit either.

I wont be jumping to any over-the-top conclusions regarding last nights result but I will say that we throw the towel in far too handy, and that is a mind set the players need to challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 04, 2018, 10:36:23 AM
Was at the game, sitting with two Tyrone club managers who between them provided six starters, so I had a good insight into the work going on there behind the scenes. Obviously it's impressive in both the number of sessions and things finishing off with lots of in house games (Tyrone dont do challenge games) and when its all weighed up, Tyrone are a lot lot further down the road than us. As we already know.

I took home from the match some positives and a few negatives Obviously, but all in all we scored 2 -11 and hit the crossbar, despite being off the pace and looking ring rusty. When we get the right settled team out and the (match) fitness up a notch or two, we should achieve main target of getting out of division four. Id be very confident about that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
Quote from: saffronog67 on January 04, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:27:49 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 04, 2018, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 04, 2018, 08:54:55 AM
Top team in Ireland held to a draw v div 3 opposition.....really hope Lenny can work the oracle but he has some task ahead.

have you the Dublin teamsheet?
The Dublin football squad are on a team holiday in South Africa this week.

Apparently not, the man in the know said they were held to a draw by Div 3 team....

Dublin are the top team in Ireland and they were held to draw by a division 3 team, he didn't say anything that wasn't a fact. Tyrone had 2/3's of their squad changed from last years heavy defeat to Dublin so it's not like we were playing their strongest outfit either.

I wont be jumping to any over-the-top conclusions regarding last nights result but I will say that we throw the towel in far too handy, and that is a mind set the players need to challenge.

Hardly the top team in Ireland if they (the top team) are in South Africa, so not really fact.. Tyrone are a top 8 team.. now if you do the math you'll find we are ranked maybe 28th possibly, thats a fair difference in quality.. but hey some will have been laughing under there sleeves at that result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 06:36:49 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit

I'm surprised it took you this long... and that's what you came up with? Don't give your day job yet..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on January 04, 2018, 06:47:03 PM
Only scored 2-11 because tyrone took off their best players and relaxed last ten minutes and off course we took of cj who was killing our forward line. Way off the pace of tyrone even at this early stage obviously had a good christmas in Antrim. We had several players who all looked like stuffed turkeys and Tyrone were all in fantastic shape so you can tell who leads the lifestyle of a county footballer. Havnt a hope on that performance of getting out of div 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 04, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit

Maybe the "pub teams" that are supplying the players for the *pub league outfit" need to look in the mirror first

Our top "pub team" this year were beaten by more than double scores  22 to 10 in Ulster Club first round   

just saying & just using your language
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 04, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
Jeepers creepers lads & ladies. Happy new year, peace and good will to all men and women.

There is a few pics on Saffron Gael that don't do any favours for some lads, hopefully Lenny and his backroom team will sort it.

Saffron Abu.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2018, 07:40:04 AM
Apart from very obvious lack of condition (which Fintan Devlin immediately needs to step up and manage for his credibility too) I'm equally concerned about what CJs role is on the team. The two games I've seen so far this year he spends the vast majority of his time around the middle third or even deeper. He is marking no one, and especially against Tyrone this allowed them an extra man every time they attacked through the middle. So what exactly is his role??

It's definitely a challenge Lenny and his backroom team need to face up to. If CJ is calling these shots already, the dressing room will be lost in no time.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 07:45:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
Jeepers creepers lads & ladies. Happy new year, peace and good will to all men and women.

There is a few pics on Saffron Gael that don't do any favours for some lads, hopefully Lenny and his backroom team will sort it.

Saffron Abu.

Hopefully they don't put up pictures of any of our regular posters!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 05, 2018, 08:18:52 AM
....alright for you being totally jacked... :)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 08:59:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 05, 2018, 08:18:52 AM
....alright for you being totally jacked... :)

Its not easy lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 09:32:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 07:45:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
Jeepers creepers lads & ladies. Happy new year, peace and good will to all men and women.

There is a few pics on Saffron Gael that don't do any favours for some lads, hopefully Lenny and his backroom team will sort it.

Saffron Abu.

Hopefully they don't put up pictures of any of our regular posters!

Hopefully are regular posters aren't pretending to be county footballers ffs!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
Jesus lads what have Antrim been doing since the new manager took over?
The conditioning coach needs sacked straight away looking at those pictures on that saffron site
Quite embarrassing for a county team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 05, 2018, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
Jesus lads what have Antrim been doing since the new manager took over?
The conditioning coach needs sacked straight away looking at those pictures on that saffron site
Quite embarrassing for a county team

The conditioning coach can only do so much, from what i'm hearing the collective conditioning work is very professional and tailored to suit the needs of modern day Gaelic football. However the coach cant control the diet of players or ensure they are completing personal sessions outside of training time, also in Tyrone and the likes these processes are happening from development squad level up with the expertise of Peter Donnelly etc working with squads on their conditioning and education around the subject. Antrim are now trying to get in line in this regard so hopefully we will see the benefits over the next few years. The levels of conditioning of a modern day county footballer isnt an overnight turnaround unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
Why play the lads then if they are not doing as they are asked?
Jesus lads the conditioning of them lads is terrible
I can see into lads having a good Christmas but that takes the biscuit
No disrespect to your management team but it doesn't look good on them
Not professional at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2018, 06:36:49 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit

I'm surprised it took you this long... and that's what you came up with? Don't give your day job yet..

I keep it simple so even you can understand 😁
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on January 05, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
In this day and age there is no excuse for an inter-county footballer to be so BADLY out of shape. Any Joe Bloggs who is remotely interested in health and fitness knows what to eat and general information about keeping themselves in shape. A county footballer with access to dieticians, gyms and conditioning programmes should not be so badly out of shape...there is no excuse other than laziness.

There were 3 young lads sitting behind me on Wednesday night, no older than 16 and they were laughing loudly at the shape of CJ. And he was berating other players for not making runs! I would love to see his GPS stats.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 04, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit

Maybe the "pub teams" that are supplying the players for the *pub league outfit" need to look in the mirror first

Our top "pub team" this year were beaten by more than double scores  22 to 10 in Ulster Club first round   

just saying & just using your language

We were told on this forum by esteemed contributors hat this committed squad were adequate? Is that incorrect?  Regardless of talent, this is 2018 - a county player cant return to training 2 stone overweight and expect to sweat it off.  Are we drifting further?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 04, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit

Maybe the "pub teams" that are supplying the players for the *pub league outfit" need to look in the mirror first

Our top "pub team" this year were beaten by more than double scores  22 to 10 in Ulster Club first round   

just saying & just using your language

We were told on this forum by esteemed contributors hat this committed squad were adequate? Is that incorrect?  Regardless of talent, this is 2018 - a county player cant return to training 2 stone overweight and expect to sweat it off.  Are we drifting further?

So by that token, nobody would have made a difference in that period of time from taking over, just as anyone with half a brain will tell you, we dont have the players to compete with the big guns... Its a mindset, you can bring a horse to water
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on January 05, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on January 05, 2018, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 09:51:56 AM
Jesus lads what have Antrim been doing since the new manager took over?
The conditioning coach needs sacked straight away looking at those pictures on that saffron site
Quite embarrassing for a county team

The conditioning coach can only do so much, from what i'm hearing the collective conditioning work is very professional and tailored to suit the needs of modern day Gaelic football. However the coach cant control the diet of players or ensure they are completing personal sessions outside of training time, also in Tyrone and the likes these processes are happening from development squad level up with the expertise of Peter Donnelly etc working with squads on their conditioning and education around the subject. Antrim are now trying to get in line in this regard so hopefully we will see the benefits over the next few years. The levels of conditioning of a modern day county footballer isnt an overnight turnaround unfortunately.

Anyone with any sense would know you can't be an IC footballer and eat all the crap of the day. This isn't a new thing, I am sure the players out of shape have been around Antrim teams for years so I don't think it should be a mystery or we need to be looking in awe at what Tyrone are doing in this area. It's fairly basic.

Tyrone, and most counties,  obviously are fully bought into it, some Antrim players haven't by the look of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:06:52 AM
Milltown u may not have the players to compete with the big boys but by the looks of things use certainly don't have the mentality or commitment from the players
Antrim should be able to compete with anyone outside the top 10 but don't seem to put the work in and those pictures just confirmed what I always thought of Antrim
Decent players but don't put the work in
Antrim are falling away badly
Look at Fermanagh as an example lads that seem to give there all
Sorry got gatecrashin the page
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:20:48 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:06:52 AM
Milltown u may not have the players to compete with the big boys but by the looks of things use certainly don't have the mentality or commitment from the players
Antrim should be able to compete with anyone outside the top 10 but don't seem to put the work in and those pictures just confirmed what I always thought of Antrim
Decent players but don't put the work in
Antrim are falling away badly
Look at Fermanagh as an example lads that seem to give there all
Sorry got gatecrashin the page

Historically this has been the case, (bar the Baker days and long before that, going back to the 50's) we havent competetd for various reasons, we have been left behind for many factors, the players havent committed to the cause, any manager worth their salt will have a plan, this is your personal target lad, if you arent up to it then cut them loose.. but on the bases of that game (first match in Jan, in the McKenna cup against Tyrone) we couldnt match them physically or on the score board cutting loose 7/8 players based on their performance and conditioning then what are we left with?

No manager would have had those lads over 2/3 months up to the pace or shape of the Tyrone lads, and if you think otherwise then you are deluded..

I think the managers that went for this job have dodged a bullet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:29:46 AM
Your 100% right milltown in all you say
Certainly no manager could get them anywhere near the conditioning of Tyrone in 3 months but surely the conditioning of some players shouldn't have been accepted?
Why did certain players play so badly out of shape?
What have they been doing this past 3 months?
Many nights a week are they training?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:29:46 AM
Your 100% right milltown in all you say
Certainly no manager could get them anywhere near the conditioning of Tyrone in 3 months but surely the conditioning of some players shouldn't have been accepted?
Why did certain players play so badly out of shape?
What have they been doing this past 3 months?
Many nights a week are they training?

Can't answer those questions, I'm 46 and in better shape and fitter!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2018, 11:39:34 AM
Some valid points here being made, but quite a few are over the top. The vast majority of Antrim Footballers have followed a strict programme since Lenny was appointed, attended collective training three times a week and didn't overdo it too much over Christmas.

I have an insight into what Antrim are doing but have a duty not to put it all out there. The work is not what Tyrone are doing, if you go back to my original post, Tyrone have had lots of in house games. So they are much better match conditioned. You will see that they will hit the ground running in the league, and as usual win the Mc Kenna Cup.

We have been doing different work, things like strategies etc as well as usual S&C work, but not so much off the aerobic or matchday stuff. So for those reasons I wasn't too disappointed with what I saw at the Athletic grounds. As I said before our priority is getting out of division four and I think the squad we have can deliver that.

If I was in Lennys shoes I would now be going into very hard interval running for a few weeks, working on the tackling (which was poor on Wed night) and getting the Probables putting up big scores against the Possibles for 30 mins every night....so that we are ready for league match number one. If he needs a floodlight pitch to do this, then get one.

I don't pick the team, and don't know what Lenny is thinking, but I`d be confident that of the 18 -20 players really in the mix, the vast majority will be in decent shape for our first league match. If a players individual stats don't stack up against his peers, especially in bleep test, then its easy enough to tell that player he wont be considered until the stats look right.

As they say, you can argue with an opinion, but you cant argue with a fact!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronista on January 05, 2018, 11:40:06 AM
I saw said pictures that are circulating, embarrassing to say the least! If a senior club player turned up to pre-season in that condition there would be war. County football is no longer a hobby, its a lifestyle, and unfortunately not enough of our players commit to the lifestyle. Until that changes we are stuck in the basement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:29:46 AM
Your 100% right milltown in all you say
Certainly no manager could get them anywhere near the conditioning of Tyrone in 3 months but surely the conditioning of some players shouldn't have been accepted?
Why did certain players play so badly out of shape?
What have they been doing this past 3 months?
Many nights a week are they training?

Can't answer those questions, I'm 46 and in better shape and fitter!

And why is that? You care about the standard that you ref at. Your serious about improving the level of officials here by keeping up with play etc and like many other the GAA isn't an after thought, pity some of our senior players don't feel the same. This is my annual nice post to you btw  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2018, 12:00:28 PM
My own view is that it has been a long long time since an Antrim team was really fit. Certainly we weren't anywhere near fit these last few years. The fitness level for the championship against Donegal last year was a disgrace, by far the worst I ever seen, and in the qualifiers we were four up against Sligo ten minutes into the second half, and lost by six. A ten point turnaround in the last third of the game.

I know a guy very well who used to go down to his local pitch to watch the training in the early days of Jim Mc Guinness taking over in Donegal. The first twenty sessions were 2 hour running marathons. Boring and repetitive. Three quarter pace down the sidelines and half pace jog across the endlines. The manager was making his statement....we ant to be the fittest team in the country, and how badly do you want to be part of it.

Id give my right arm for Mc Guinness (or someone) to come in for a few months pre season and weed out the chancers in the squad. You would end up losing a few but in the end you would have a very fit team that would go to war for each other. Big John Mc Cluskey must be looking in with disgust these last few years having been the man in charge of physical conditioning in that legendary Armagh team. And he a friend of Lennys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:29:46 AM
Your 100% right milltown in all you say
Certainly no manager could get them anywhere near the conditioning of Tyrone in 3 months but surely the conditioning of some players shouldn't have been accepted?
Why did certain players play so badly out of shape?
What have they been doing this past 3 months?
Many nights a week are they training?

Can't answer those questions, I'm 46 and in better shape and fitter!

And why is that? You care about the standard that you ref at. Your serious about improving the level of officials here by keeping up with play etc and like many other the GAA isn't an after thought, pity some of our senior players don't feel the same. This is my annual nice post to you btw  ;)

Its only Jan! so will I have to wait a full year for a 'nice' post?

Keeping fit as someone has said is a lifestyle choice, being committed to the county is a lifestyle choice that you have to work around your working life and personal family life, huge committment and I don't envy being highlighted every week as having a poor game...

Being a manager coach S&C and the rest would have taken note of what happened the other night, they aint stupid, they have a panel that has come together in the past 2/3 months with a new manager and set up... would be totaly unfair to lambast everything at this point, Tyrone will be playing the likes of a proper Dublin team this year while we will be playing London, thats our standard, we have to gear ourselves for beating those teams rather than what happened the other night..

It takes 16 weeks to prepare for a marathon, a full year to prepare for a Ironman race and thats by fit peoples standards.. I havent seen the photos (photos add ten pounds  ;D ;D) but I'd say in the next month or two the team should be at a standard that's match fit and competitive...

If not get rid of the time wasters, blood the hungry players and go with a panel thats keen to buy into the county player role
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 11:29:46 AM
Your 100% right milltown in all you say
Certainly no manager could get them anywhere near the conditioning of Tyrone in 3 months but surely the conditioning of some players shouldn't have been accepted?
Why did certain players play so badly out of shape?
What have they been doing this past 3 months?
Many nights a week are they training?

Can't answer those questions, I'm 46 and in better shape and fitter!

And why is that? You care about the standard that you ref at. Your serious about improving the level of officials here by keeping up with play etc and like many other the GAA isn't an after thought, pity some of our senior players don't feel the same. This is my annual nice post to you btw  ;)

Its only Jan! so will I have to wait a full year for a 'nice' post?

Keeping fit as someone has said is a lifestyle choice, being committed to the county is a lifestyle choice that you have to work around your working life and personal family life, huge committment and I don't envy being highlighted every week as having a poor game...

Being a manager coach S&C and the rest would have taken note of what happened the other night, they aint stupid, they have a panel that has come together in the past 2/3 months with a new manager and set up... would be totaly unfair to lambast everything at this point, Tyrone will be playing the likes of a proper Dublin team this year while we will be playing London, thats our standard, we have to gear ourselves for beating those teams rather than what happened the other night..

It takes 16 weeks to prepare for a marathon, a full year to prepare for a Ironman race and thats by fit peoples standards.. I havent seen the photos (photos add ten pounds  ;D ;D) but I'd say in the next month or two the team should be at a standard that's match fit and competitive...

If not get rid of the time wasters, blood the hungry players and go with a panel thats keen to buy into the county player role

I'm doing it now before you annoy me. Be grateful!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 12:54:09 PM
If those pictures are not a big big wake up call for players and management then use are bucked
The Antrim Management team would have seen them and if they are going to move forward will address them straight away
And being an All Ireland winning manager Lenny would be very much clued in?
Reality check for all involved
The honeymoon period is over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2018, 12:55:37 PM
Look its probably a bit of a knee jerk thing (that in itself mightn't do any harm) but we did have a few tardy looking individuals and this was exposed even more so than usual by the super fit looking Tyrone players. We need to be careful not to tar the whole squad with the one brush, as the majority will be ready/in shape to do battle when the league starts. We will be competitive in the next two Mc Kenna cup games first, I think we will give Cavan their fill of it, and hopefully we will be on track for a decent year.

Too many here completely writing the whole thing off at this stage and that's very unfair. I think the season will turn out ok.

But in saying that....no hiding places whatsoever for players not working their absolute butt off to be the fittest/best they can be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on January 05, 2018, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 05, 2018, 12:55:37 PM
Look its probably a bit of a knee jerk thing (that in itself mightn't do any harm) but we did have a few tardy looking individuals and this was exposed even more so than usual by the super fit looking Tyrone players. We need to be careful not to tar the whole squad with the one brush, as the majority will be ready/in shape to do battle when the league starts. We will be competitive in the next two Mc Kenna cup games first, I think we will give Cavan their fill of it, and hopefully we will be on track for a decent year.

Too many here completely writing the whole thing off at this stage and that's very unfair. I think the season will turn out ok.

But in saying that....no hiding places whatsoever for players not working their absolute butt off to be the fittest/best they can be.

You are 100% spot on Bannside with this summation. Antrim have no shortage of very talented players and if they can bring it all together under Lenny and have a real crack at it then they will have a successful year, anything less than 100% commitment to it will mean they fall short. A good system with hard working individuals laced with some quality then why not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 05, 2018, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
Why play the lads then if they are not doing as they are asked?
Jesus lads the conditioning of them lads is terrible
I can see into lads having a good Christmas but that takes the biscuit
No disrespect to your management team but it doesn't look good on them
Not professional at all

Our boys totally buy into the amateur ethos of the Association!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 01:14:00 PM
Fair play lads well said and this coming from a Down man that has hijacked your discussion
Question?
Will Lenny have picked up on the pictures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 05, 2018, 01:25:05 PM
Of the photos I've seen (admittedly not many) there's only one player who looks badly out of shape??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 01:25:51 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 01:14:00 PM
Fair play lads well said and this coming from a Down man that has hijacked your discussion
Question?
Will Lenny have picked up on the pictures

Just checked out these photos of all the fat lads for Antrim! One photo ffs.. move on please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on January 05, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
Ps Bannside you must have between the Pomeroy and Coalisland management  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 01:42:43 PM
Milltown has the lad in question been given a byeball regarding training this past few months??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 01:42:43 PM
Milltown has the lad in question been given a byeball regarding training this past few months??

Wouldnt know, close season for us regular clubmen.. can't see why one player would get a byeball as you say over anyone else in the panel, just because there is a relation between them, I don think that matters in all honesty...

In fact I'd be more strict with a relative than any other player, cause you'll get clowns who'd think he'd get preference because hes related, which at this level would be daft
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 05, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Just saw the one bad picture myself.

Unfair to tar them all with the same brush.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 05, 2018, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 01:25:51 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on January 05, 2018, 01:14:00 PM
Fair play lads well said and this coming from a Down man that has hijacked your discussion
Question?
Will Lenny have picked up on the pictures

Just checked out these photos of all the fat lads for Antrim! One photo ffs.. move on please

Thats true, one player out of shape - badly so - and the others were fine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
100% Bearded one! Good spot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 05, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
100% Bearded one! Good spot.

though there was another pic and he looked fine! All about the angle lights and focus .... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: referee on January 05, 2018, 03:34:23 PM
It is only 1 player,but if it was some other player that came back in that shape they wouldn't have been on the panel never mind start

And you know that? been Managing long?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 05, 2018, 03:49:51 PM
Hardly the first time CJ has appeared for Antrim out of shape, he wouldn't be in great shape in the height of summer. Total chancer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 04, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 04, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Some outfit. Lenny maintaining Antrims mckenna cup record. Fitness levels of a pub league outfit

Maybe the "pub teams" that are supplying the players for the *pub league outfit" need to look in the mirror first

Our top "pub team" this year were beaten by more than double scores  22 to 10 in Ulster Club first round   

just saying & just using your language

We were told on this forum by esteemed contributors hat this committed squad were adequate? Is that incorrect?  Regardless of talent, this is 2018 - a county player cant return to training 2 stone overweight and expect to sweat it off.  Are we drifting further?

So by that token, nobody would have made a difference in that period of time from taking over, just as anyone with half a brain will tell you, we dont have the players to compete with the big guns... Its a mindset, you can bring a horse to water

As usual bluffers welcomed with open arms to the antrim  squad and we wonder why the real talent has stayed away.  Same old routine repeated with apologists getting their excuses in early.

Ffs they werent asked to do anything that any other county in ireland were..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 05, 2018, 04:33:50 PM


As usual bluffers welcomed with open arms to the antrim  squad and we wonder why the real talent has stayed away.  Same old routine repeated with apologists getting their excuses in early.

Ffs they werent asked to do anything that any other county in ireland were..
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'They'? Who is they? One guy in those pictures looks out of shape. I imagine not too many posting here were at the game on Wednesday, aside from Bannside...I'll refrain from criticism / praise until I get a look at the team and the performance, hopefully this Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 04:37:35 PM
Quote from: referee on January 05, 2018, 03:34:23 PM
It is only 1 player,but if it was some other player that came back in that shape they wouldn't have been on the panel never mind start

In any other county they wouldnt but this is Antrim where we dont learn from the repeated mistakes of our past. Fintan D must be wondering what he has let himself in for, he has his work cut out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 05, 2018, 04:33:50 PM


As usual bluffers welcomed with open arms to the antrim  squad and we wonder why the real talent has stayed away.  Same old routine repeated with apologists getting their excuses in early.

Ffs they werent asked to do anything that any other county in ireland were..

'They'? Who is they? One guy in those pictures looks out of shape. I imagine not too many posting here were at the game on Wednesday, aside from Bannside...I'll refrain from criticism / praise until I get a look at the team and the performance, hopefully this Sunday.
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If the scoreline, team sheet, opposition team sheet and match report didnt tell you enough.........

Good luck.and lets hope cavan send up their reserve team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 05, 2018, 04:33:50 PM


As usual bluffers welcomed with open arms to the antrim  squad and we wonder why the real talent has stayed away.  Same old routine repeated with apologists getting their excuses in early.

Ffs they werent asked to do anything that any other county in ireland were..

'They'? Who is they? One guy in those pictures looks out of shape. I imagine not too many posting here were at the game on Wednesday, aside from Bannside...I'll refrain from criticism / praise until I get a look at the team and the performance, hopefully this Sunday.

If the scoreline, team sheet, opposition team sheet and match report didnt tell you enough.........

Good luck.and lets hope cavan send up their reserve team
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Spike why do you bother? Clearly not interested and opposed to anything, bit of a dark cloud who's angry a lot.. take some time out and spend it with your family, you'll be on the happy pills at this rate!

Who are these real talents that have stayed away? These ones you're talking about who rather not play for Antrim as they didn't get who they wanted ? Spoilt much are they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
'They'? Who is they? One guy in those pictures looks out of shape. I imagine not too many posting here were at the game on Wednesday, aside from Bannside...I'll refrain from criticism / praise until I get a look at the team and the performance, hopefully this Sunday.
[/quote]

If the scoreline, team sheet, opposition team sheet and match report didnt tell you enough.........

Good luck.and lets hope cavan send up their reserve team
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Spike why do you bother? Clearly not interested and opposed to anything, bit of a dark cloud who's angry a lot.. take some time out and spend it with your family, you'll be on the happy pills at this rate!

Who are these real talents that have stayed away? These ones you're talking about who rather not play for Antrim as they didn't get who they wanted ? Spoilt much are they?
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I strive for improvement whereas you accept mediocrity.  I want antrim to improve while you accept the same rubbish excuses each year and start to regurgutate the.establishment excuses as your own. 

Read the team sheet to see who has stayed away, its pretty obvious even for you.  Spoilt? Not a chance - theyre disillusioned and fed up with the same nonsense each year.  Respect works both ways.

On a positive note......the only way is up and Lenny has hell of a lot of work on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: referee on January 05, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Mill town nothing to do with how long anyone has managed,the only reason you're not slating him or Lenny is because they're your club men,if it was say any other player from a different club,you'd have plenty to say,Fintan Devlin won't be able to work miracles with CJ,it's a two way thing
I haven't slated anyone who's willing to put their head on the block, I was mildly annoyed many years ago when I was managing my club team when the ccc refused to use common sense regarding dual clubs with county players, throwing up fixtures when it was impossible for me to get the best team out.. other than that I've had no issues.. being clubmen means nothing tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 07:39:13 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
'They'? Who is they? One guy in those pictures looks out of shape. I imagine not too many posting here were at the game on Wednesday, aside from Bannside...I'll refrain from criticism / praise until I get a look at the team and the performance, hopefully this Sunday.

If the scoreline, team sheet, opposition team sheet and match report didnt tell you enough.........

Good luck.and lets hope cavan send up their reserve team
[/quote]


Spike why do you bother? Clearly not interested and opposed to anything, bit of a dark cloud who's angry a lot.. take some time out and spend it with your family, you'll be on the happy pills at this rate!

Who are these real talents that have stayed away? These ones you're talking about who rather not play for Antrim as they didn't get who they wanted ? Spoilt much are they?
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I strive for improvement whereas you accept mediocrity.  I want antrim to improve while you accept the same rubbish excuses each year and start to regurgutate the.establishment excuses as your own. 

Read the team sheet to see who has stayed away, its pretty obvious even for you.  Spoilt? Not a chance - theyre disillusioned and fed up with the same nonsense each year.  Respect works both ways.

On a positive note......the only way is up and Lenny has hell of a lot of work on.
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I've never accepted mediocrity in any aspects of my playing managing or for that manner in refereeing career. Thr management has been put in place and not to drag everything up again it was by interview and manager picked. Move on

I seen the teamsheet and the players who have stepped away are making a statement that they aren't bothered about playing for Antrim unless they get their way. So take out of that what you want, I think it's selfish and spoilt. You with you're axe to grind sees something else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2018, 08:39:29 PM
Will be really hoping Lenny can work the oracle and haul us out of our present misery and will be supporting him all the way.
Some regular posters on the board seem to be swayed in opinion as to just who is at the helm.
Not naming names but there are several on site who sharpened their knives and sought the heads of last season's management and cheering on the 'austerity' programme against who are singing a different tune now.
Long may they retain such positivity :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 08:55:33 PM
I've never accepted mediocrity in any aspects of my playing managing or for that manner in refereeing career. Thr management has been put in place and not to drag everything up again it was by interview and manager picked. Move on

I seen the teamsheet and the players who have stepped away are making a statement that they aren't bothered about playing for Antrim unless they get their way. So take out of that what you want, I think it's selfish and spoilt. You with you're axe to grind sees something else
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Establishment 'yes men'  like yourself cant understand what its like to be a modern committed county footballer these days.  Living in the 80's & think CJ has the right attitude.  If u cant understand why those players are staying away then its because you're choosing ignore the obvious.

*assumed axe grinding over*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
Established no man like yourself will never be happy. Bad attitude isn't right regardless who he is.. I've saud it countless times but you've continued to ignore it. Again says more about you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
Established no man like yourself will never be happy. Bad attitude isn't right regardless who he is.. I've saud it countless times but you've continued to ignore it. Again says more about you

Yep, that statement says more about the quality of your education than it does about antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
Established no man like yourself will never be happy. Bad attitude isn't right regardless who he is.. I've saud it countless times but you've continued to ignore it. Again says more about you

Yep, that statement says more about the quality of your education than it does about antrim football.

So are we talking about education now or Antrim football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 08:55:33 PM
I've never accepted mediocrity in any aspects of my playing managing or for that manner in refereeing career. Thr management has been put in place and not to drag everything up again it was by interview and manager picked. Move on

I seen the teamsheet and the players who have stepped away are making a statement that they aren't bothered about playing for Antrim unless they get their way. So take out of that what you want, I think it's selfish and spoilt. You with you're axe to grind sees something else

Establishment 'yes men'  like yourself cant understand what its like to be a modern committed county footballer these days.  Living in the 80's & think CJ has the right attitude.  If u cant understand why those players are staying away then its because you're choosing ignore the obvious.

*assumed axe grinding over*
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Your above post is full of mistakes! But sure again you only see what you want!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
4 pages now because we got bate by Tyrone.

Christ the night.

What will happen if Cavan beat us?  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 11:02:33 PM
Some positivity here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 06, 2018, 12:03:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 05, 2018, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
Established no man like yourself will never be happy. Bad attitude isn't right regardless who he is.. I've saud it countless times but you've continued to ignore it. Again says more about you

Yep, that statement says more about the quality of your education than it does about antrim football.

So are we talking about education now or Antrim football?

Hardly matters, you havent a gleed about either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2018, 08:29:53 AM
Continue going down this route and you've lost the argument.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
Is tomorrow's match still in Glenavy at 2pm? Heard a whimper the pitch isn't in good shape and alternatives are being sought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 06, 2018, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
Is tomorrow's match still in Glenavy at 2pm? Heard a whimper the pitch isn't in good shape and alternatives are being sought.
Switched to Woodlands 4G
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2018, 10:46:05 AM
Yea heard that rumour Two Hands. Thanks. Don't think Cavan are that happy about the 4G, and would prefer to host it in a
bog of their own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 06, 2018, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2018, 10:46:05 AM
Yea heard that rumour Two Hands. Thanks. Don't think Cavan are that happy about the 4G, and would prefer to host it in a
bog of their own.

Think i'm right in saying that Cavan played their match on the 4G at Breffni on Wednesday night so shouldn't have much room for complaint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2018, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 05, 2018, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
4 pages now because we got bate by Tyrone.

Christ the night.

What will happen if Cavan beat us?  :'(
I think everyone would agree McKenna Cup is a preseason tournament so why don't they seed in such a way that Div 4 teams like Antrim DONT play a Div 1 team like Tyrone? Mismatches are no good for anyone.
Perhaps McKenna Cup A & B tournaments......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 06, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
Not sure Woodlands will accommodate the potential number of spectators very well. Not saying there will be a massive crowd but it's a poor pitch from spectators point of view and first home match of the new era will attract a decent enough attendance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 06, 2018, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 06, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
Not sure Woodlands will accommodate the potential number of spectators very well. Not saying there will be a massive crowd but it's a poor pitch from spectators point of view and first home match of the new era will attract a decent enough attendance.

Dunsilly.....just so it gets used?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 06, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
Not sure Woodlands will accommodate the potential number of spectators very well. Not saying there will be a massive crowd but it's a poor pitch from spectators point of view and first home match of the new era will attract a decent enough attendance.

Would you be welcome back in Woodlands?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 06, 2018, 10:27:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 06, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 06, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
Not sure Woodlands will accommodate the potential number of spectators very well. Not saying there will be a massive crowd but it's a poor pitch from spectators point of view and first home match of the new era will attract a decent enough attendance.

Would you be welcome back in Woodlands?

😴😴😴😴😴😴
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2018, 03:46:40 PM
Good win for the lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2018, 03:48:50 PM
Poor enough Cavan team..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2018, 03:55:56 PM
Lenny out..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
Well done today. I saw enough on Wednesday night to know we would be competitive in our last two games and that's the way it's turning out.

We played some excellent football today, Paddy McBride was brilliant and two or three others not far behind. Well done Lenny, that's the shackles off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 07, 2018, 06:21:22 PM
Very encouraging overall. Though when our keeper / defenders play keep ball along the full back line I swear my heart rate goes up quicker than during a parkrun. Our goals were all well taken, I think we have forwards to do damage to most teams, with the right ball played in. Sean Burke's work for Conor Murray's goal was great to watch. A good day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on January 07, 2018, 08:29:11 PM
Well done lads.  Good win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2018, 09:18:10 PM
4 pages after getting stuffed, 4 posts after winning! Strange bunch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 07, 2018, 09:27:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2018, 09:18:10 PM
4 pages after getting stuffed, 4 posts after winning! Strange bunch

Yeah that says it all really. The naysayers will have been disappointed today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 08, 2018, 01:10:36 AM
Great win. Well done all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 08, 2018, 07:16:51 AM
Most entertaining thread on the gaaboard!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 08, 2018, 08:29:02 AM
Great win, Cavan a good side and hopefully that will give our lads a boost. Missed the game, thought it was a 3pm throw in for some reason and only realised when i was getting ready to go that the Ht score was on twitter! hopefully another good run out then set us up for the league campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2018, 09:18:48 AM
With Big Ricky Johnston and last year's standout player Peter Healy both still to feature (hopefully they will see game time soon after being late additions to the squad) there is Going to be serious competition for jerseys in a few weeks when the league starts.


Yesterday's performance was pleasing from a technical perspective, with two very obvious differences in style to recent years. Great to see as top teams have been implementing this for years. Still early days but you can start to see Lennys thumbprint already.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 08, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
No CJ yesterday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on January 08, 2018, 10:11:45 AM
Great win and goals to boot!  Well done all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 08, 2018, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 08, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
No CJ yesterday?

Between the two games so far loads of players have seen action. Don't think its a big deal that CJ didn't appear yesterday. Niall McKeever had a very good first half but wasn't on in the second. I think it was a chance to get lots of players playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on January 08, 2018, 03:54:38 PM

(Yesterday's performance was pleasing from a technical perspective, with two very obvious differences in style to recent years. Great to see as top teams have been implementing this for years. Still early days but you can start to see Lennys thumbprint already.)
What where the two very obvious diffrences in style, i couldnt make yesterdays game due to family engagement but i was at tyrone game and there really was no style to the performance. How strong where Cavan or was it an experimental side because what i seen on wednesday wouldnt trouble many teams even in div 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2018, 04:22:52 PM
There are not many Tyrones playing in division four BOB, thankfully lol.

Where we differ is I took the positives from Wednesday (which were expanded on yesterday) and saw enough to know we would go close in our last two games and get us out out of division four. Yesterday proved me right and i confidently stand by the rest.

Yesterday we had much more fluidity in our play, much better use of space, much more pace in the right places. Plus we had a good possession stat from our kick outs.

That first phase possession is critical at this level (with up to 50 kick outs per game sometimes) and last year's stats in this regard were woeful. Thats one particular  area of noticeable progress already. (Having said that the addition of big Niall around the middle plus Sean Burkes physical presence is a big plus too) and gives the keeper better options.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on January 08, 2018, 04:29:57 PM
Well maybe in yesterdays game those points were big improvements but neither were evident on wednesday night and yes tyrone are a good team but it asks again how strong were the cavan side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
Take this back to basics and go from there.

Last year we went close to staying up. Three of our best games were Louth, Tipp and Armagh. All away from home. We were highly competitive in all three. Those teams finished first second and third. So there's a nucleus of players there obviously good enough to play div 3, even if we ended up getting relegated.

A new management team comes in and freshens things up. My own personal feeling is that this will result in us being much fitter and with a clear game plan.

Throw into that mix the return of Niall Mc Keever and Sean Burke which greatly increase our ability to win ball in midfield. Kobo and Niall Delargy get rid of pesky injuries that were holding them back. The return of Ricky Johnston who hasn't let us down. This lot will provide the manager with much better options.

You add all that up, and it's hard mathematically (or when you add up all those positives) to see how we can't go into the league with great confidence. Let's look forward for a change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 08, 2018, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 08, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
Take this back to basics and go from there.

Last year we went close to staying up. Three of our best games were Louth, Tipp and Armagh. All away from home. We were highly competitive in all three. Those teams finished first second and third. So there's a nucleus of players there obviously good enough to play div 3, even if we ended up getting relegated.

A new management team comes in and freshens things up. My own personal feeling is that this will result in us being much fitter and with a clear game plan.

Throw into that mix the return of Niall Mc Keever and Sean Burke which greatly increase our ability to win ball in midfield. Kobo and Niall Delargy get rid of pesky injuries that were holding them back. The return of Ricky Johnston who hasn't let us down. This lot will provide the manager with much better options.

You add all that up, and it's hard mathematically (or when you add up all those positives) to see how we can't go into the league with great confidence. Let's look forward for a change.

I have to give it to you BS, you're an eternal optimist! You even managed a spin on 'last year we were close to staying up'
Antrim have more than enough tools to get promoted,l
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 10, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
Hopefully the lads get another win tonight - I see some talk in the IN about a win opening the way towards a semi final place but I would have thought our score difference v Tyrone would rule that out? Another competitive game this weekend would be useful prep for the league to come.

Am I reading that wrong, or maybe a mathematician out there can help point the way towards a semi final spot??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2018, 10:05:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 10, 2018, 09:41:06 PM
Can we have 4 pages please?

The Cavan thread will have at least 4 pages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 10, 2018, 10:24:04 PM
Anyone know team 2 nite?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Galer on January 10, 2018, 10:24:04 PM
Anyone know team 2 nite?

Antrim
https://mobile.twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/951174704253100032/photo/1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 11, 2018, 10:33:32 AM
Please dont mention CJ........🙈
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 11, 2018, 11:29:20 AM
I only got there for 2nd half, the goals conceded were far too soft, suspect last night will have helped clarify some starting positions for the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 11, 2018, 12:31:19 PM
keeper and defence is seriously worrying.

11 goals in 3 games? the 3 goals in the second half were very easy goals indeed.

there must be a decent full back knocking about the county somewhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 12:55:13 PM
Quote from: breakingball on January 11, 2018, 12:31:19 PM
keeper and defence is seriously worrying.

11 goals in 3 games? the 3 goals in the second half were very easy goals indeed.

there must be a decent full back knocking about the county somewhere?

Same keeper and fulback in all three games?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 11, 2018, 01:49:06 PM
Get corporate boxes in.....now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........

This was the only pitch available? where would you have preferred it? Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 11, 2018, 02:24:27 PM
Heard a rumour about a possible change to U13, 15 and 17 in the juvenile leagues.

Can anyone shed any light on it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on January 11, 2018, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........

This was the only pitch available? where would you have preferred it? Athletic Grounds?

Did they have an admission fee on?

Don't think you can into a council ground.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........

This was the only pitch available? where would you have preferred it? Athletic Grounds?

Cargin would have been a better venue. Jesus they even have a scoreboard!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 02:57:06 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........

This was the only pitch available? where would you have preferred it? Athletic Grounds?

Cargin would have been a better venue. Jesus they even have a scoreboard!!

Was it available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 11, 2018, 02:24:27 PM
Heard a rumour about a possible change to U13, 15 and 17 in the juvenile leagues.

Can anyone shed any light on it?

heard the other night that we haven't decided yet in Antrim what we are doing. the clubs are to meet FQ to decide as to what we are doing this year.

If we go U13 that will mess up the Feile surely? or is that going to be U14 still?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 04:02:00 PM
It's a council run facility. It's where we are at the present in the county with no county pitch, was Ahoghill or Cargin contacted to see if they were available? I don't think there is a pitch within the city that has floodlights apart from the Dub, of course I stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
theres not many club pitches in the county that would want it torn to shreds in the second week in Jan.

we should be lucky to have one we can even use at the moment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on January 11, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........

This was the only pitch available? where would you have preferred it? Athletic Grounds?

Cargin would have been a better venue. Jesus they even have a scoreboard!!


We have access to a great facility when most other pitches in Ulster are not available at this time of year (how many McKenna Cup games called off on Sunday???) and people still find something to complain about.  Why do you think the Cavan game was played at Woodlands too? None of the clubs could/would make their pitch available (understandable given the weather)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 11, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
Thought the set up was decent last night, parking in car park available right beside pitch, quick access to purchasing tickets , and able to watch the game unobstructed. The surface also added to the speed of the game.

A coffee at half time would have been nice, but beggars can't be choosers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 12, 2018, 02:11:10 PM
Quote from: stiffler on January 11, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
Thought the set up was decent last night, parking in car park available right beside pitch, quick access to purchasing tickets , and able to watch the game unobstructed. The surface also added to the speed of the game.

A coffee at half time would have been nice, but beggars can't be choosers.

Exactly, quit your whingein! Its McKenna Cup and a chance to get lads some competitive game time and for management to take a look ahead of the league. I'd rather be in our boat then Derrys last weekend who travelled all the way to Armagh for nathin!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 13, 2018, 03:33:39 PM
Sad news out of the SW this morning on the sudden passing of John O'Boyle RIP.  Deepest sympathy to his family. 

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on January 13, 2018, 04:25:27 PM
Very sad to hear.  Gentleman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 13, 2018, 04:29:00 PM
John was an absolute Gentleman. Condolences to his family and all at the Cargin club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 13, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
Sorry 2 hear abt John O Boyle.sticklier 4 the rules bit very fair man and did a load of work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 13, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
Anyone hear who has been selected/dropped from the senior panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Have we a minor football manager in place or have i missed the appointment?thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Have we a minor football manager in place or have i missed the appointment?thanks

Under 19 you mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Have we a minor football manager in place or have i missed the appointment?thanks

Under 19 you mean?
County is u17(Minor) and u20 this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on January 15, 2018, 01:39:51 PM
Many clubs back training?
Any word when league fixtures are out or championship draw is being made?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on January 15, 2018, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2018, 10:03:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Have we a minor football manager in place or have i missed the appointment?thanks

Under 19 you mean?
County is u17(Minor) and u20 this year

Has this been confirmed-  I know it was being considered??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2018, 07:38:13 AM
County has a long time. Club not so much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 16, 2018, 08:44:10 AM
club still isn't decided yet for the U17 & U20 format
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
staying as it is for this year, changing next year afaik
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 16, 2018, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
staying as it is for this year, changing next year afaik

Is that the same with U12/14's/16's etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on January 17, 2018, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 11, 2018, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on January 11, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
Before getting onto the game, the setup for last night's game was shameful.
As for the game itself, at least Lenny will have worked out by now who isn't going to cut it. Centre half back is a major problem-Antrim got back in the game twice only for St Mary's to cut through the middle for easy goals.
Having heard much about CJ and his fitness, he still has the ability to take scores from range that is lacking elsewhere in the side.

The set up?


Patrons only allowed on one side of pitch, no scoreboard, no facilities for hot drinks, no flag, no anthem...........

This was the only pitch available? where would you have preferred it? Athletic Grounds?

Did they have an admission fee on?

Don't think you can into a council ground.
They did surely, you had to go in to a room in the main building to pay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
I'd say you are right! Poor organisation all the same when we need to be better prepared than most to compete
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
I'd say you are right! Poor organisation all the same when we need to be better prepared than most to compete

Look its the same with clubs, trying to get someone to commit to taking teams is difficult. Ive already been asked to help out at the club, as i'm asked most years, the same people always do, the county teams is harder again, lot of committment, i certainly seen that with the minor hurling team last year, they were on the go all the time and with a big selection of mentors helping out..

Not too many people will put their hands up to take teams, but are pretty good at giving off about it, not saying you are Belfast GAA man, from my limited experience its harder than you think with even less reward for the effort you put in, and I'm noit talking about money
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 17, 2018, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
I'd say you are right! Poor organisation all the same when we need to be better prepared than most to compete

Look its the same with clubs, trying to get someone to commit to taking teams is difficult. Ive already been asked to help out at the club, as i'm asked most years, the same people always do, the county teams is harder again, lot of committment, i certainly seen that with the minor hurling team last year, they were on the go all the time and with a big selection of mentors helping out..

Not too many people will put their hands up to take teams, but are pretty good at giving off about it, not saying you are Belfast GAA man, from my limited experience its harder than you think with even less reward for the effort you put in, and I'm noit talking about money
I've been taking kids teams for years and will be this year - Minor really is a hard job as their interest starts to go elsewhere - no easy answers but you are right about needing 3 or 4 people taking a team to do it right and to make it enjoyable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 19, 2018, 09:19:05 AM
anyone in the know have any idea when fixtures will be out for 2018?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2018, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: breakingball on January 19, 2018, 09:19:05 AM
anyone in the know have any idea when fixtures will be out for 2018?
Championship draws this Monday so maybe after that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2018, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2018, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: breakingball on January 19, 2018, 09:19:05 AM
anyone in the know have any idea when fixtures will be out for 2018?
Championship draws this Monday so maybe after that

Championship draws on Jan 30th......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
Only 2 days until the county season starts for proper. Some good work has been put in during pre season and there is genuine optimism within the squad. Hopefully a decent crowd will turn up to support this fresh start and help grab two absolutely  essential points.

Club football starts too..we play Bellaghy in the Ulster league at midday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2018, 01:14:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 26, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
Only 2 days until the county season starts for proper. Some good work has been put in during pre season and there is genuine optimism within the squad. Hopefully a decent crowd will turn up to support this fresh start and help grab two absolutely  essential points.

Club football starts too..we play Bellaghy in the Ulster league at midday.

Thats as strong as team that you could have put out in fairness.. Hopefully the lads put in a performance and Leitrim roll over!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2018, 01:20:28 PM
McVeigh off the panel or just injured?

1 Chris Kerr
2 Peter Healy
3 Patrick Gallagher
4 Niall Delargy
5 Kevin O Boyle (Capt)
6 Mark Sweeney
7 James Laverty
8 Sean Burke
9 Niall McKeever
10 Stephen Beatty
11 Conor Murray
12 Paddy Mc Bride
13 Mathew Fitzpatrick
14 Colum Duffin
15 Ryan Murray
16 Andrew Hasson
17 Pat Brannigan
18 Paddy Mc Aleer
19 Connell Lemon
20 Ruairi Mc Cann
21 Ricky Johnston
22 Michael McCarry
23 Odhran Eastwood
24 C J Mc Gourty
25 Kristan Healy

for those who haven't saw it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2018, 06:36:04 PM
Strong looking team, looking forward to the match. Best of luck to the lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 26, 2018, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2018, 01:20:28 PM
McVeigh off the panel or just injured?

1 Chris Kerr
2 Peter Healy
3 Patrick Gallagher
4 Niall Delargy
5 Kevin O Boyle (Capt)
6 Mark Sweeney
7 James Laverty
8 Sean Burke
9 Niall McKeever
10 Stephen Beatty
11 Conor Murray
12 Paddy Mc Bride
13 Mathew Fitzpatrick
14 Colum Duffin
15 Ryan Murray
16 Andrew Hasson
17 Pat Brannigan
18 Paddy Mc Aleer
19 Connell Lemon
20 Ruairi Mc Cann
21 Ricky Johnston
22 Michael McCarry
23 Odhran Eastwood
24 C J Mc Gourty
25 Kristan Healy

for those who haven't saw it.
happy days football is back ! Sick of premier league lack of manliness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 27, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
Just seen on the county twitter laochra loch lao have been accepted to play doc 3 and JFC this year. Excuse my ignorance but what is the craic with them? Have they many numbers, under age etc? All I know of them is that they're Irish speaking. Any info? Goes without saying I wish them well and hope their club prosper
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 03:46:03 PM
10 point win, that's what would have been expected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on January 28, 2018, 05:36:26 PM
Any day u win by 10 is a good day but limiting the opposition to 5 is great stuff.also hurlers put in massive performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2018, 05:37:15 PM
That was a very satisfactory opening performance. Took a while to settle but once it did there was only one winner. Leitrim had a fair bit of pre season done and John O Mahony was along the line with them too, so all in all we can be pleased to have got our scoring difference stats off to a healthy start. Long time since we put ten points on anyone...we need to focus now on Waterford next week and hope to produce a performance like this away from home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 05:58:40 PM
Type of result like that would stick in Spikes throat!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 28, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
Great result onwards and upwards for the the lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Five posts? Seriously? We'd more posts on getting tanked by Tyrone! Spikes internet is clearly not working
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2018, 09:33:37 PM
Great start for Lenny's boys .....support base poor....outnumbered by Leitrim people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 28, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
There could and should have been more support there but 'outnumbered by Leitrim people' is nonsense. There was one wee pocket of Leitrim supporters up on the hill and another fella wandering around with a huge Leitrim flag - furled.

Very solid performance, string in most areas really, a few individual errors that can be worked on and ironed out. 15 points is a good total and there were some terrific scores among them. Would have been nice to have seen a goal too and it was on the cards a few times but last pass just let us down. Thats a very minor quibble.

Think we will do well this league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 28, 2018, 10:55:33 PM
Fair play Lenny and the boys. A lot of positivity around the county this weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 11:14:07 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 28, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
There could and should have been more support there but 'outnumbered by Leitrim people' is nonsense. There was one wee pocket of Leitrim supporters up on the hill and another fella wandering around with a huge Leitrim flag - furled.

Very solid performance, string in most areas really, a few individual errors that can be worked on and ironed out. 15 points is a good total and there were some terrific scores among them. Would have been nice to have seen a goal too and it was on the cards a few times but last pass just let us down. Thats a very minor quibble.

Think we will do well this league.

No CB said there was more of them than us.. why would you question that? And the difficulty in being positive is hard .. and great choice of captain
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 29, 2018, 12:50:40 AM
Well done all

Great start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2018, 08:44:05 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 27, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
Just seen on the county twitter laochra loch lao have been accepted to play doc 3 and JFC this year. Excuse my ignorance but what is the craic with them? Have they many numbers, under age etc? All I know of them is that they're Irish speaking. Any info? Goes without saying I wish them well and hope their club prosper

seen that myself, where abouts are they based? in my ignorance id never heard of them before until i read that on twitter at the weekend of them being accepted into the JFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 29, 2018, 10:41:47 AM
Solid start by the lads, can only beat whats in front of them. Division 2 in 2020 by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 29, 2018, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 27, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
Just seen on the county twitter laochra loch lao have been accepted to play doc 3 and JFC this year. Excuse my ignorance but what is the craic with them? Have they many numbers, under age etc? All I know of them is that they're Irish speaking. Any info? Goes without saying I wish them well and hope their club prosper

Great to see them coming through and bucking the trend of clubs folding rather than forming.  Cultural significance as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on January 29, 2018, 02:11:01 PM
Great win on Sunday

Antrims forward line is brilliant..get tomas mccann back on to that team and would be as good as any in division 2 or 3

Defence seems poor tho and the system is there to help it - good management by lenny - bit of hope creeping in again for this team?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
I'd say there are no doors closed and the best 30 should be lining out for the county.... albeit some players may have other commitments and thats the case for a lot of counties, only Antrim needs its best 30 available for selection to have an impact, harder games to come, so best to see how we fair with a league contender away from home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mourne Red on January 29, 2018, 10:18:19 PM
Joe Henry managing in Down this year? Any insight on why he's like as a coach
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on January 30, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
IS there a video of the game that I can access?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2018, 08:25:40 PM
Looks like Cargin LD quarter final. That is assuming that LD beat aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 30, 2018, 09:22:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2018, 08:25:40 PM
Looks like Cargin LD quarter final. That is assuming that LD beat aghagallon.
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And the eventual winners v Casement's/Rossa/Gall's....... :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2018, 09:23:36 PM
well sure at least you have avoided st johns to the final...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 30, 2018, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2018, 09:23:36 PM
well sure at least you have avoided st johns to the final...
Indeed.... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on January 30, 2018, 09:59:19 PM
Well done Lenny and the players . A positive start and hopefully we can make some progress. Positive Mental Attitude by everyone is all we can ask
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2018, 09:36:50 PM
Another two points absolutely vital on Sunday. The panel has been working harder than most players can remember, and enjoying the training too. All the vibes coming out of the camp at the minute are very positive, credit where it's due to Lenny and his backroom staff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2018, 04:09:57 PM
That's another two points on the board, and we did our scoring average no harm either. Lenny starting to put a firm footprint on things, and players responding to the fresh management and much improved set up. One week at a time and all that...but things are on a clear progress curve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on February 04, 2018, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 02, 2018, 09:36:50 PM
Another two points absolutely vital on Sunday. The panel has been working harder than most players can remember, and enjoying the training too. All the vibes coming out of the camp at the minute are very positive, credit where it's due to Lenny and his backroom staff.



Now there's a bit of positivity for Antrim. A happy dressing room  a bit of interaction and communication between players and management- that's the difference. Well Done to all involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Super result yesterday, was worried about that one. With Wicklow up next and them not going well, hopefully its a perfect 3 wins out of 3 as we head into games that are potentially more difficult.

Hard not to be impressed with the workrate, commitment and set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 05, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Super result yesterday, was worried about that one. With Wicklow up next and them not going well, hopefully its a perfect 3 wins out of 3 as we head into games that are potentially more difficult.

Hard not to be impressed with the workrate, commitment and set up.
the last managers blooded some of the lads who are playing well now so fair play to them and Lenny
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: youhavenofans on February 07, 2018, 04:04:31 PM
Hi folks, I am looking for a friendly for a Div 1 tyrone minor team. Could anyone recommend me and Antrim teams to play and possible contact details? thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 07, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
best thing would be to contact the club secretaries themselves at each club. they would be best placed to let you know show in charge of the minor squads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2018, 12:37:53 PM
Wicklow next up tomorrow. We've found them a tough adversary in recent years but hopefully we should get the job done alright.

The squad is putting in some serious hours, and most weeks they would be out at least four nights. That's a step up on previous, and the players are buying in across the board. Interestingly Conor Murray was quoted in yesterday's IN saying the set up was easily the best he has seen, so that's a flavour of what's going on.

As everyone knows we have a long way to go but the signs are definitely pointing in the right direction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 10, 2018, 07:12:07 PM
Big win this evening for Carlow over Leitrim. When we host Carlow it could be crucial. They're a strong team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 10, 2018, 08:38:48 PM
And a win for Laois too. So important that we win tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2018, 11:50:48 PM
One game at a time, keep all the players on the pitch for 70 minutes we'll win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
Not sure why Ryan Murray did not hit that lastvfree. Was in his range and he had been doing well.

We need to move forward more rather than side to side. We have the players to break the line with the two Murrays, KOBO, Sweeney, McAleer.

Sweeney is starting to come into his own. Almost in the mould of his old club mate Loughrey. Think CHB or wing back is his position.

Should have closed the game out - couple of frees missed and one hit into keeper's hands (along with a few previously).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 11, 2018, 05:09:03 PM
1pt dropped 2 day.can we not kick a ball ?not bad defensively but goin foward we need a plan b.cannot continue to mess abt going side to side all the time (yes i recognise against packed defence u have to pick)if we had of played a half foward in the proper sense a link man we would have created more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on February 11, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Also why change free taker?cant recall any missed bar 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2018, 06:37:05 PM
A deeply frustrating day all round.

Galer made a solid point. I feel we had no presence at CHF, especially to offer ball winning and link up options. A Niblock for example. From an attacking perspective we often go down a right wing, or a left wing, but no outlet in the crucial middle lane where you want to be playing your football.

Those conditions today suited Wicklow more and though we were fitter and faster they cleaned us out in the middle third. Niall Mc Keever missed the game due to a hamstring recurrence at training and was badly missed. Maybe Sean Mc Veigh might have offered us a bit of physical presence in there. Even for 40 minutes. That day would have suited him. Again just my opinion.

London will have their tails up now. They beat Wicklow fairly easily last week and after today's result certainly won't fear us. So we need to get our heads right for that match which has turned into a really important game for us now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on February 11, 2018, 08:19:14 PM
Didn't get to the match today due to the weather but just unfortunate we couldn't have closed the game off. No win but no defeat either.  Get ready for the next one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 12, 2018, 11:33:53 AM
A draw at home against Wicklow is a poor result.  No two ways about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2018, 05:59:26 PM
Well done to Peter Healy who picked up a Sigerson winners medal today with UCD. Commiserations to Owen Gallagher who lined out at No 11 for Galway University who lost out to St Mary's  in last years final and today by one point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2018, 01:23:42 PM
Quote from: referee on February 18, 2018, 09:40:44 AM
I think St Mary's beat UCD in the final BS,

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigerson_Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigerson_Cup)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: referee on February 18, 2018, 09:40:44 AM
I think St Mary's beat UCD in the final BS,

They did

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2017/02/19/news/st-mary-s-belfast-bring-home-sigerson-cup-after-ousting-ucd-in-final-936707/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 18, 2018, 05:00:03 PM
We any closer to finding out when the leagues start? Think div 3 started before Easter last year, can't see it being that way this year, assume we'll be looking at sun after Easter at the earliest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 18, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: referee on February 18, 2018, 09:40:44 AM
I think St Mary's beat UCD in the final BS,

They did

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2017/02/19/news/st-mary-s-belfast-bring-home-sigerson-cup-after-ousting-ucd-in-final-936707/

They DID indeed
......... last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2018, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 18, 2018, 06:42:44 PM
Skull, what are you snorting?

:o :o :o .....somebody tell me what the year is ???? 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2018, 09:48:30 PM
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--y3zh0Q1a--/gtk93r36bovdwb1wvio4.gif)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2018, 03:16:57 PM
Dogfight in London as expected. We are a point down at HT.  Huge 35 mins ahead will have a big say in our season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
Playing against the wind first half 1 up at min
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2018, 04:10:36 PM
Won by four points. That's a good result over there. Still no goals conceded that's a good stay too after four games.

Onwards to Portlaoise next Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 25, 2018, 09:43:08 PM
Great results, would like to hear more details of scorers etc.

It's a 3 horse race now, ourselves Laois and Carlow. If we get anything out of Laois next weekend - which will be difficult - we are in a strong position. A defeat there would leave us relying on results of the game between the other two. But we're a long way from calculator stage...and all is in our own hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 26, 2018, 02:05:56 AM
Good win

Come on the Saffrons!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 26, 2018, 03:02:03 PM
Shout out for Kevin Brady his backup team and squad.

2nd Macrory Final in a row. Big contributions from the Antrim guys on the team and in the squad.

Took out the Red Hot favourites with a masterclass in teamwork and application   

Very impressive work over the last few years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 26, 2018, 06:43:34 PM
There are 9 Aghagallon boys in the St. Ronan's panel and 5 or 6 of them are starters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on February 26, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 26, 2018, 06:43:34 PM
There are 9 Aghagallon boys in the St. Ronan's panel and 5 or 6 of them are starters.

Is St Ronan's not all Armagh lads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 27, 2018, 12:33:49 PM
Must get players from both counties. Aghagallon will be strong at club minor this year you would think...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
As Flanker says, fair play to Antrim legend Kevin Brady who is doing some coaching  job in St Mary's Magherafelt. Definitely hasnt gone unnoticed. So we could have a Mc Rory cup final this year with six or seven Antrim players involved. Interesting to see how many will kick on into county seniors in three or four years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2018, 12:58:55 PM
Big weekend ahead for our senior footballers. All roads lead to Portlaoise for early throw in due to dual header there. Laois were hot favourites at 4/9 to win the league, so we will know where we stand on Sunday evening. They will be hot favourites to beat us on their own patch but weve won our last two against them and hopefully we can make it three in a row because if you go by their discussion thread a few of them obviously don't rate us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 01, 2018, 04:03:37 PM
Match off.

Just my luck. Booked into Bellinteer House in Meath for a family function on Saturday and would have woken up on Sunday about an hour from Portlaoise. On the plus side....gives Niall Mc Keever an extra week or two to recover.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2018, 02:04:47 PM
Still no sign of the club fixtures for the year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 04, 2018, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2018, 02:04:47 PM
Still no sign of the club fixtures for the year?

Not as yet, very late as I said earlier this day last year div 3 was beginning so the fixtures were probably out say middle of Feb last year. I'd say they are with clubs at the min. Maybe the div 1a 1b thing is jays holding it up? Heard leagues are pencilled to start 18th April or around that but wouldn't take that as gospel m
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 05, 2018, 04:18:41 PM
So we will now travel to Laois Easter weekend after Carlow and Llmerick games.....suits us I think :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 05, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 04, 2018, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2018, 02:04:47 PM
Still no sign of the club fixtures for the year?

Not as yet, very late as I said earlier this day last year div 3 was beginning so the fixtures were probably out say middle of Feb last year. I'd say they are with clubs at the min. Maybe the div 1a 1b thing is jays holding it up? Heard leagues are pencilled to start 18th April or around that but wouldn't take that as gospel m
update on county guestbook on the fixtures but still no fixtures. County teams holding up club fixtures probably?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2018, 08:58:30 PM
The fixture re scheduling could be a lucky roll of the dice for us. With two difficult games to come against table toppers, I'd sooner be at home first and hopefully put points in the bag before travelling. Laois on the Saturday of that weekend would be nice wee trip too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2018, 02:26:11 PM
11th March and still no club fixtures/dates for leagues that start in April!
Can't see this happening in any other county...............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on March 13, 2018, 09:59:14 PM
Crunch time in Division 4. Home venue should swing it v Carlow, although the long delay from the London game isn't ideal preparation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 13, 2018, 11:48:47 PM
Think its a massive challenge. They have won 5 in a row and will be full of confidence, and they set up in the most claustrophobic non football style imaginable. But, with some good fortune and a performance built on discipline, I think we can win this and blow open the finish to this division. Ultimately we have better players than they do and can get more scores at one end and shut them out at the other. Everything right now remains in our own hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on March 14, 2018, 02:53:09 PM
Antrim have possibly the best defensive record in the four divisions and have yet to concede a goal.
Their ability to turn defence into attack is impressive as they break with so much pace.
I'd fancy their chances of topping the group - especially with their good record against Laois in recent times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 14, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Think brendanantrim is more realistic than give and go.i actually think there build up could be quicker.but the way pmcbride and a few others is playin they have a good chance.hope burke is a wee bit fitter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 14, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Think brendanantrim is more realistic than give and go.i actually think there build up could be quicker.but the way pmcbride and a few others is playin they have a good chance.hope burke is a wee bit fitter

You saying Burkey is unfit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on March 14, 2018, 10:33:41 PM
Is the Antrim SFC run as a straight knockout this year, has the draw been made yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on March 14, 2018, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 14, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Think brendanantrim is more realistic than give and go.i actually think there build up could be quicker.but the way pmcbride and a few others is playin they have a good chance.hope burke is a wee bit fitter

You saying Burkey is unfit?
Carrying a bit of timber!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on March 14, 2018, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 14, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Think brendanantrim is more realistic than give and go.i actually think there build up could be quicker.but the way pmcbride and a few others is playin they have a good chance.hope burke is a wee bit fitter
Can't see Carlow being near them with promotion at stake.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2018, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on March 14, 2018, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 14, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Think brendanantrim is more realistic than give and go.i actually think there build up could be quicker.but the way pmcbride and a few others is playin they have a good chance.hope burke is a wee bit fitter

You saying Burkey is unfit?
Carrying a bit of timber!

Ah you're saying he's fat and unfit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 15, 2018, 07:59:06 AM
Not as fat as u but seemed as if he could only do 50 mins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: Galer on March 15, 2018, 07:59:06 AM
Not as fat as u but seemed as if he could only do 50 mins

Not fat at all, but carry on with your stupid statements
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on March 15, 2018, 01:20:51 PM
Very impressed with Peter Healy through the league; great man to break lines. Continuing on form his fine form for UCD in Sigerson Cup. Hope this round isn't snowed off! Would be a fixtures nightmare....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Give and Go on March 16, 2018, 05:10:22 PM
Team on Twitter:
C Kerr; P Healy, P Gallagher, N Delargy; K O Boyle, M Sweeney, J Laverty; S Burke P McAleer; M Fitzpatrick, C Murray, P McBride; CJ McGourty, C Duffin, R Murray.

Plenty of fire power there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2018, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on March 16, 2018, 05:10:22 PM
Team on Twitter:
C Kerr; P Healy, P Gallagher, N Delargy; K O Boyle, M Sweeney, J Laverty; S Burke P McAleer; M Fitzpatrick, C Murray, P McBride; CJ McGourty, C Duffin, R Murray.

Plenty of fire power there.

Galer won't think so, plenty timber though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on March 16, 2018, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on March 16, 2018, 05:10:22 PM
Team on Twitter:
C Kerr; P Healy, P Gallagher, N Delargy; K O Boyle, M Sweeney, J Laverty; S Burke P McAleer; M Fitzpatrick, C Murray, P McBride; CJ McGourty, C Duffin, R Murray.

Plenty of fire power there.

A dummy team. Where's McKeever?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2018, 10:18:40 PM
Still injured
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 16, 2018, 10:36:34 PM
I like the consistency in team selection and I think that with the 2 Murrays, McBride and Fitzpatrick we have 4 good forwards which we haven't had in a long time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2018, 08:56:16 AM
I would agree. We do actually have a few capable guys which we can't always say. I do think we have a chance against down thi year. (Though i am worried carlow may beat us!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 17, 2018, 07:09:16 PM
Mr2 think cj has the timber issue covered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2018, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Galer on March 17, 2018, 07:09:16 PM
Mr2 think cj has the timber issue covered

Jesus lad you've some obsession with the Galls lads, was laughing about this last night in the club, some spoofer on a chat room calling someone fat! Brill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2018, 03:09:40 PM
Disastrous result for the footballers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 18, 2018, 05:02:02 PM
Couldnt fault the effort of the players there.workef really hard.a mixture of wrong options bad refin and kerr havent a meltdown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 19, 2018, 05:26:28 PM
Great result for St. Ronan's College today and a very proud day for Aghagallon. 9 panel members and 6 played (5 started) a very important role in the McCrory Cup victory today.  Creggan had a good representation today as well. A day they will remember for the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 10:10:49 PM
Must bode well for the future of Antrim football having almost a full 15 between the 2 panels today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 19, 2018, 10:49:09 PM
so does anyone think that Carlow can beat Laois and open up a potential route to promotion for us? I think they can, but two away wins for us in a row would be a big ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 19, 2018, 10:52:07 PM
On another note; why is the support for our football team so poor at league games? It has never been great from memory but around 2010 / 2011 we were getting decent crowds for league games. Yesterday Carlow had more supporters than Antrim in Corrigan. I know the clash with the hurlers played a part. But 2 years ago we played Wicklow away to secure promotion, we had won every game prior to that one so we were in the exact situation Carlow were in yesterday. Now Wicklow isn't a million miles away. Apart from players families I would say there was about 20 Antrim supporters at that game. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2018, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 19, 2018, 10:52:07 PM
On another note; why is the support for our football team so poor at league games? It has never been great from memory but around 2010 / 2011 we were getting decent crowds for league games. Yesterday Carlow had more supporters than Antrim in Corrigan. I know the clash with the hurlers played a part. But 2 years ago we played Wicklow away to secure promotion, we had won every game prior to that one so we were in the exact situation Carlow were in yesterday. Now Wicklow isn't a million miles away. Apart from players families I would say there was about 20 Antrim supporters at that game. Any thoughts?
Yep......made the same comment following the Leitrim visit and such observation was kicked into touch by your good self.
Wonder why the game was switched from the original venue... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 20, 2018, 05:22:25 PM
Cant recall that exactly but I think you claimed that we were outnumbered by Leitrim supporters which wasn't the case that day. We were outnumbered on Sunday last.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on March 20, 2018, 09:47:51 PM
Id be more worried about the performance of our team than the crowd. We ripped into fitzy and adams that we were too defensive and had no system of play. Then lenny gets appointed and we heard about better systems of play, better conditioned players and kickout strategy. Could anyone really say they have seen evidence of any of these and the guys are training 5 days a week. Carlow were better all over the park and deserved the win but we are not fit by any means ( cj is in shocking condition ), kerrs kickouts have only 1 pattern (long) and we got back in numbers but couldnt get out when we won the ball. I think we are honestly playing at our level and until we have alot of personel changes we will stay in div 4 for a while. Last year we were very competative all year pushing armagh and longford for 60 mins and we had a few dismissed and both these teams are looking at promotion to div 2. Nows the time to get rid of players who dont want to commit to the lifestyle of a county player regardless of their supposed talent and build a new young hungry and committed squad who see playing for antrim as a privilage not a hassle. I believe we do have the talent but were not committing to them and going back to the old. The carlow supporters were laughing at some players conditions throughout the match.
The usual guys are very quiet about this performance are they now realising we mighten have the mix of players or management they were all upbeat about earlier in the year when we were playing the weakest teams in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Catch and Kick on March 20, 2018, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on March 20, 2018, 09:47:51 PM
Id be more worried about the performance of our team than the crowd. We ripped into fitzy and adams that we were too defensive and had no system of play. Then lenny gets appointed and we heard about better systems of play, better conditioned players and kickout strategy. Could anyone really say they have seen evidence of any of these and the guys are training 5 days a week. Carlow were better all over the park and deserved the win but we are not fit by any means ( cj is in shocking condition ), kerrs kickouts have only 1 pattern (long) and we got back in numbers but couldnt get out when we won the ball. I think we are honestly playing at our level and until we have alot of personel changes we will stay in div 4 for a while. Last year we were very competative all year pushing armagh and longford for 60 mins and we had a few dismissed and both these teams are looking at promotion to div 2. Nows the time to get rid of players who dont want to commit to the lifestyle of a county player regardless of their supposed talent and build a new young hungry and committed squad who see playing for antrim as a privilage not a hassle. I believe we do have the talent but were not committing to them and going back to the old. The carlow supporters were laughing at some players conditions throughout the match.
The usual guys are very quiet about this performance are they now realising we mighten have the mix of players or management they were all upbeat about earlier in the year when we were playing the weakest teams in the league.
Thought Antrim were unlucky last year to make the drop but they look lukewarm in the games i've seen. Leaders on the field are lacking. Thought kickout was very poor and Carlow closed it down very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2018, 09:00:17 AM
There's a lot of truth in what Catch & Kick says tbh. Quite a few of his points cannot really be countered. The kick out stats need to be better and if we do not have arguably Lennys first choice midfield (MMK and SB) then why do our kick outs still land on top of the two Carlow giants especially Brendan Murphy.

Maybe I'm trying too hard to remain optimistic because there genuinely is a lot of very honest work going on that I know of, but I do honestly believe that Carlow are a hugely improved team  this year and yet, we played middling at times and still were one score off them at the end.

We put three into the keepers hands in the first half when scores were vital and the referee gave Carlow two or three very soft frees in scorable positions to keep them in the ascendancy. ( These things usually balance themselves out but on Sunday I didn't see evidence of that).

In the absence of both of Lennys first choice midfielders, we also had to play without the services of Ryan Murray and Paddy Mc Bride for most of the game. Unquestionably this dented our scoring threat.

Overall it was a day that turned out as most people feared. It dosent make us a bad team all of a sudden and at full strength we would most likely have got the result. Football can do that to you, and the challenge is to remain as positive as possible under the circumstances.

In the meantime maybe the panel needs freshened up a bit (as many countys do between league and championship) but that's Lennys call. There is a lot of quality missing up front from what would be considered our better type forwards in the county. Maybe there is good reason why they can't commit but think Niblock Tomas Billy Joe Burns Owen Gallagher etc...feel free to add to that list. 

Especially in light that one or two dropouts from the existing panel are likely. As i say thats Lennys call and Im sure he is aware of the options himself, whether he intends to go down that route or not is his call.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on March 21, 2018, 04:12:45 PM
Y mention Billy joe burns ? he is without doubt one of the best gaelic footballers in Antrim but is a signed irish league player who hasnt ever looked like hes had an interest in Antrim simply because hes under contract with Crusaders. Again niblock and tomas were good servants to Antrim but they have had their time. Where are the young players throughout the county that need to get blooded for the future. We r in div 4 and thats the best place to get new talent involved and learn their trade. I really think were sending out a bad message to our young lads when cj can continue leading our line in the condition hes in. Yound lads hungry and with a drive to play for Antrim are sitting on the bench watching. Time to rewrite the script and have a long term plan to introduce new talent with all the attributes of a county footballer not just the ability to kick the odd free. Div 4 should be our level for a while now lets use it to our advantage for the long term.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2018, 08:01:16 PM
Down brought in Connaire Harrison from Warrenpoint Town to do all the mid summer damage last year against Armagh, so everything is doable if a way can be found. Look I know it's a wild card....even more so because BJ is getting married this summer too. But I didn't see a more impressive forward in Antrim football during the 6 weeks he was able to give it to his club last year, and fit as a fiddle with all the skills too.

But as I said Lenny will have his own ideas about who else is in his plans and Im sure he has plenty of inside advisors on the issue.

Bit of Banter is making a case to introduce a lot of new blood but the way I look at it is IF Kevin Niblock (No matter what age he is) is still the best dirty ball winner we have.....and if he would be up for a few months participation, then I'd be banging his door down. But that's only one opinion and Im certain many others will disagree. (Look maybe he is gone for good injury wise,  but the last I heard he was going rightly with the soccer).

Question? Would you take a few experienced old hands (We all know the names) and have a good rattle at Down, or would you introduce half a dozen nineteen or twenty year olds and give them a touch of experience for the future?

Maybe there is no right answer!

Or does Lenny stick with those who gave committment from day one and make everyone realise there are no short cuts. Just interested to hear some thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on March 22, 2018, 12:17:52 AM
Short term gain for long term loss is what we will get going back to the few older hands your talking about and lets not forget they took us to div 4. Bringing those guys back now will set a tone for experienced players to miss the hard graft of early season training and long trips away in the league to then drop in to the squad during championship time when the suns at their backs and look like saviours. Class way to knock a young lads confidence after putting in months of hard work. If lads dont commit from day 1 they should not be considered. Carlow have taken 33 years to get out of the basement i cant see us taking anywhere near that time to build a new Antrim team of skillful, committed,hardworking and lifestyle living county footballers. We already have a few just nowhere near enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2018, 09:36:26 AM
I totally do get the reason why a squad should not be interrupted during a season, letting a few old hands back in for the sunny days and all that. And yes it would sent out poor signals to the lads who put the hard graft in all year. No problem with that.

In the meantime the focus must be on beating Limerick on Sunday and the further loss  to injury of our best player last Sunday (imo) won't help in that regard.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 22, 2018, 10:43:43 AM
I think the nature of IC football now doesn't allow for long term planning, it's the here and now. The cycles of good teams is very short so I would be inclined to pick the best players available and if that's billy joe burns then so be it. How often do we see good 20/21 year olds come in play well and then due to work or uni commitnemets they have to opt out. Pick the best players in the county who will commit for the remainder of the season, then dust ourselves down and go again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
I speak to a lot of people who agree with this line of thinking.

Then again, the traditionalists will say look if they can't commit 5 nights a week for 9 months of the year, then we can do without them.

Given that any player will not peak (both physically and football wise) until their mid twenties, you will come to the conclusion that after 5 or six years of this gruel, (because it can be) sacrifices, falling out with girlfriends, losing out on job promotion prospects, not being able to go on holidays with your mates, etc etc.......well most talented 19/20 year olds will be truly scundered by the time this new group has developed to its optimum.

And the way the fixture list is screwed up the county player will hardly set eyes on his club mates so he can be expected to be called a glory hunting county b......., given that most clubs dont really give a damn about how the county is doing.

There a no easy solution unfortunately. Bringing back half a dozen old hands for the championship and having a crack at beating Down might win a match but in the process would piss a lot of people off too, and would be counter productive in the medium term.

Then again......it's a results based business. You really can't win!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 22, 2018, 01:13:44 PM
.....it's a results based business.

Straight to the nub BS. Antrim shouldn't be in Div 4, but they are.  On the plus side they have blooded some people for the championship, where, lets face it, the real scrutiny on Lenny begins. A good championship erases all that went on in the league. I for one hope he doesn't try and recruit the stay-aways as it has been a blight on previous regimes. It never resonates well within an existing panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2018, 01:15:45 PM
Why "shouldn't" Antrim be in Div 4?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2018, 02:46:22 PM
There's the rule and sometimes there can be an exception to that rule. Say...just for example...we lose two or three good forwards (they're scarce enough on the ground already) to injury or otherwise, and the scoring department suddenly looks very weak. Would you then hunt about for two or three absent forwards who we all know are amongst the best in the county, or recruit from within the squad regardless of calibre or big match experience?

In a results based business, as Spike says, one big result can lift the doom and gloom of a county and put whatever else happened that year in the shade. Id say you could make a case for either as long as it was clearly and properly communicated, especially to those who would be most affected and in danger of losing out.

I suppose you could say this is hypothetical but I'm not so sure thats the case. One top forward got hurt last week at training, another this week. So if additions were needed ( Lennys call) well at least they would be better coming in now than in a month.

My own view is that we have a good enough ream there atm if everyone was available. At full strength we would have taken Carlow I've absolutely no doubt about that. But as for strength in depth if we have three or four missing....I'm not so sure about that tbh!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 22, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 22, 2018, 01:15:45 PM
Why "shouldn't" Antrim be in Div 4?

I think it's their level at the minute and in my lifetime they haven't really been anything else bar the odd decent season. And people talk about players who should be there and injuries etc. I'd say most counties have players not committing or have injuries, so Antrim can't keep using these excuses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 23, 2018, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 22, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
I speak to a lot of people who agree with this line of thinking.

Then again, the traditionalists will say look if they can't commit 5 nights a week for 9 months of the year, then we can do without them.

Given that any player will not peak (both physically and football wise) until their mid twenties, you will come to the conclusion that after 5 or six years of this gruel, (because it can be) sacrifices, falling out with girlfriends, losing out on job promotion prospects, not being able to go on holidays with your mates, etc etc.......well most talented 19/20 year olds will be truly scundered by the time this new group has developed to its optimum.

And the way the fixture list is screwed up the county player will hardly set eyes on his club mates so he can be expected to be called a glory hunting county b......., given that most clubs dont really give a damn about how the county is doing.

There a no easy solution unfortunately. Bringing back half a dozen old hands for the championship and having a crack at beating Down might win a match but in the process would piss a lot of people off too, and would be counter productive in the medium term.

Then again......it's a results based business. You really can't win!

this is the bit that irks me, asking young lads for this level of commitment is whats turning lads away from IC football. To basically commit the years of your life where you're beginning to get a career and a family etc is very difficult. i would love to see the stats from counties on the average retirement age of IC footballers, i believe thats the biggest problem with IC football, outside the big counties players are retiring in their mid 20s well before we can see their best in a county shirt.

heres my question, would we be in a better place with our best available footballers training collectively say twice a week and doing their own gym work etc to suit their own lifestyle or a squad who are willing to train 4-5 times a week but maybe not of the same talent pool. i think its a question a lot of county teams will be weighing up in the next few seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 23, 2018, 04:58:00 PM
Lenny has bought himself plenty of time with his '5 year plan' so I don't think the sword of Damocles is hanging over his head therefore he has time to build the squad in his image. The rights and wrongs of his appointment, the reasons why players chose to stay away are irrelevant now - he is the man in charge and he has time to mould.

Its a results based business so Lennys only real priority is how they perform in the championship. Fitzy and Gearoid got 3 years in spite their results so as long as Lenny maintains respectability in the Championship he will be alright.

What that says about the ambition of the Antrim board is an entirely different matter.

Lenny should know now what he is working with - he either has the cajones to manage his way to success or press the panic button and parachute the stay away talent in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2018, 05:57:10 PM
There's one thing certain. Young guys now arnt going to hand over 15 years (remember their journeys mostly start at under 15 or 16 development squad) in pursuit of getting out of division four. Whethe they are tradesmen or aspiring professionals they will quickly realise there is so much more going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2018, 06:26:16 PM
Start of a good weekend. Headin up here now to see Bagatelle in concert in the Europa with the wife = a free pass rest of the weekend with two sons.

Thurles 2pm tomorrow for the horse racing, 8pm Sharp at Limerick greyhound stadium for the fantastic Con Kirby Memorial competition. Head down anywhere and be at Newcastlewhest for twelve bells on Sunday to watch the mighty Saffrons.

Great to be Young!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 23, 2018, 07:23:01 PM
Enjoy that Bannside, hopefully winners all round!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 23, 2018, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 23, 2018, 06:26:16 PM
Start of a good weekend. Headin up here now to see Bagatelle in concert in the Europa with the wife = a free pass rest of the weekend with two sons.

Thurles 2pm tomorrow for the horse racing, 8pm Sharp at Limerick greyhound stadium for the fantastic Con Kirby Memorial competition. Head down anywhere and be at Newcastlewhest for twelve bells on Sunday to watch the mighty Saffrons.

Great to be Young!

You driving a DeLorean this weather bannside?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 23, 2018, 10:24:07 PM
I initally gave off about lennys appointment and still think that he picked 18/19 players and hoped that others would come back in.(and he could drop weaker players )hasnt happened to late now for new faces.but i have to say the players gave there all and i havent seen that for 2/3years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RandyDupree on March 24, 2018, 06:54:20 PM
What does the st galls gang sign mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2018, 07:03:40 PM
Quote from: RandyDupree on March 24, 2018, 06:54:20 PM
What does the st galls gang sign mean?

Eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RandyDupree on March 24, 2018, 07:24:13 PM
The gesture they make with their hands in all the team photos
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2018, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: RandyDupree on March 24, 2018, 07:24:13 PM
The gesture they make with their hands in all the team photos

Means they are fruits
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RandyDupree on March 24, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
Ok thank you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on March 25, 2018, 08:04:21 PM
At least we get a slap at derry next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2018, 09:12:01 AM
After a sluggish start Antrim settled down to play good football and win the game comfortably enough in the end. Some very good individual performances, notably Kobo who looked as good as his old self again after a horrible year of two with injuries, as well as  Ryan Murray, Paddy Mc Bride, and Chris Kerr who were all excellent. I've seen Antrim teams lose matches in places like yesterday, where Limerick raised their game and went three points up early on, but when we eventually settled some to boss the game there was only one winner.

It was a long road home especially after hearing the live commentary of the last three or four minutes of the other game, and when the commentator reported that Carlow had scored a last minute goal to win the game we were over the moon, thinking we were still in the hunt for promotion. The good news was passed to the Antrim players were were naturally delighted too, and about a minute later it transpired that the Carlow goal was disallowed, so there were some emotional high jinks at the end.

Overall a mixed league campaign with plenty of positives, and Lenny will have a better idea now of what needs to be done to get out of the basement next year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 27, 2018, 03:25:27 PM
Anyone know how the u17 footballers are getting on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on March 28, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
Well done to the Armagh lads today into the Hogan final. Great achievement for the parish and the wider Lurgan area.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 28, 2018, 05:16:56 PM
Unreal! Croke Park April the 7th! Some experience for the lads
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on March 28, 2018, 08:07:14 PM
Will be great to see so many antrim lads lining out in the upcoming hogan final. Traditionally aghagllon players have been overlooked by antrim for one reason or another but I still think this could be a good thing for the county. Antrim have been sadly lacking at schools level in the past 20 years or more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2018, 10:36:49 PM
Good luck to every one of them, not too many Antrim.players get a chance to win a Hogan cup medal. Exciting times for Aghagallon....they should be making a breakthrough with the talent they have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2018, 12:08:10 AM
Transferring minor success to senior success is harder than you think.. though I've seen enough of this team lately to see good progress.. all about filtering the the young lads into the senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 29, 2018, 10:00:09 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on March 28, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
Well done to the Armagh lads today into the Hogan final. Great achievement for the parish and the wider Lurgan area.

At your work again ye mixer! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 29, 2018, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 29, 2018, 10:00:09 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on March 28, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
Well done to the Armagh lads today into the Hogan final. Great achievement for the parish and the wider Lurgan area.

At your work again ye mixer!

Sure you're an Armagh man!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 29, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2018, 12:08:10 AM
Transferring minor success to senior success is harder than you think.. though I've seen enough of this team lately to see good progress.. all about filtering the the young lads into the senior team

Keeping them together and making sure they are still progressing is the big challenge. A lot of the lads don't bother with the county but it's probably the only way for them to bring their game to the next level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 29, 2018, 08:37:35 PM
Fair enough Bannside, some sort of Senior Championship impact is the next step for Aghagallon, but to be fair they've been making breakthroughs every six months this last few years: first U21 championship title, first county minor final, top six division finish, MacRory Cup and potential Hogan for half their minor team.  Under new management this year who will want to push the bar higher.
But, look at Derry, umpteen MacRory Cup successes and landed in Division Four, so absolutely no certainties of anything going forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
Are they favourites for the minor title? I can't recall but don't think they won u16?

(On that note I don't even know if u18 exists any more in a club context... does it?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 29, 2018, 08:51:43 PM
Age levels & structure? Black card rule? Casement reopening? The GAA is a total mystery nowadays.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 29, 2018, 08:58:19 PM
I think they might have been in Div 2 of South West for some reason in their U16 year and there was a bit of a row because they won the SW Championship Breslin Cup, but the SW puts it's League 1 winner through to the All County Final so they couldn't get a crack at it. 
They won the Feile B at U14 as well. 
In fact they are an interesting example of a team who played a lot of Div 2 football at underage and developed slowly but surely, and now a fair chunk of them are about to play in Croke Park in the Hogan Cup Final - all in key positions.  Just goes to show there's no need for all the drama if you lose an U12 match!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 29, 2018, 09:44:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
Are they favourites for the minor title? I can't recall but don't think they won u16?

(On that note I don't even know if u18 exists any more in a club context... does it?)
Yes club is still u16 and u18 and makes sense for the club game IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2018, 11:03:40 PM
Yeah i would agree with that belfast man.

Cheers sportacus. Not sure what age , or who, decides those divisions as there was only one division when i played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 30, 2018, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on March 29, 2018, 08:51:43 PM
Age levels & structure? Black card rule? Casement reopening? The GAA is a total mystery nowadays.
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Sportacus I think the current year group have always been A. Even though they won feile B they were in the A league. In SW if you get beat in first round of feile you then move into the B competition. The current year group has improved year on year. This year group also includes Ballymena who won all Ireland feile A completion.  Aghagallon have got closer to them as time has progressed. Cargin however beat Ballymena in SW U16 league final for this year group. Cargin were then beaten by St Brigids in U16s county final. It is a strong competive year group with the 4 teams mentioned  above probably the 4 contenders for Minor championship. Not sure how many of the Aghagallon McCrory winners are still minor. Hats of to them though. As a club they have been moving forward year on year in all age groups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 30, 2018, 09:19:10 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 29, 2018, 08:58:19 PM
I think they might have been in Div 2 of South West for some reason in their U16 year and there was a bit of a row because they won the SW Championship Breslin Cup, but the SW puts it's League 1 winner through to the All County Final so they couldn't get a crack at it. 
They won the Feile B at U14 as well. 
In fact they are an interesting example of a team who played a lot of Div 2 football at underage and developed slowly but surely, and now a fair chunk of them are about to play in Croke Park in the Hogan Cup Final - all in key positions.  Just goes to show there's no need for all the drama if you lose an U12 match!
Cargin won SW under-16 two years back beating a very good All Saint's in the final (think Aghagallon in semi).
Brigid's beat Cargin in the under-16 final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2018, 09:38:01 AM
See Rossa don't appear to be fielding at minor this year. They played All Saints in the feile final back at U14 didn't they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 11:21:54 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 30, 2018, 09:38:01 AM
See Rossa don't appear to be fielding at minor this year. They played All Saints in the feile final back at U14 didn't they?

How is that possible with a club like Rossa, especially since they have been doing so well at underage recently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2018, 11:34:43 AM
St brigids won u16 last year too. Seem quite strong round that age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 11:55:15 AM
St Brigid's will be hard to stop in a few years. Seem to have good underage teams coming through consistently now. They used to rely on the transfer market but are now producing their own players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 11:57:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 30, 2018, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 11:21:54 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 30, 2018, 09:38:01 AM
See Rossa don't appear to be fielding at minor this year. They played All Saints in the feile final back at U14 didn't they?

How is that possible with a club like Rossa, especially since they have been doing so well at underage recently.
We always struggled for numbers at this age group and were barely getting a team together over the years. Just a small batch really.

Surely you can find 15 players. Our u16 group from last year was always a struggle and we had to go to play teams with 13 players at times. This years team has about 30 players!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 30, 2018, 04:13:21 PM
If not playing league football all year then you should not be allowed to enter championship.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2018, 04:43:53 PM
The goodun's away to St Bridgets then HS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 31, 2018, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 30, 2018, 09:38:01 AM
See Rossa don't appear to be fielding at minor this year. They played All Saints in the feile final back at U14 didn't they?

Last years minor winners unable to field this year. That's a crazy stat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on March 31, 2018, 11:45:59 PM
Rossa team last year was from a few different clubs i think. Not sure how it all works to be honest in the city
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2018, 01:44:45 PM
Watched under-17s v Donegal yesterday and the difference in preparation and set-up is all to obvious.
Takes a huge leap of faith or a large dollop of optimism to envisage a bright future...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 07:01:53 AM
No. The Rossa team last year had one player sanctioned from another club. We knew it was coming this year. We just had a very small group at this age through the years. It can happen at any time to anyone I suppose. I'm sure we could have got 15 players by playing a pile of lads up a grade. The problem is, as a dual club, the fixtures don't lend themselves well to this and you also then have a cohort of lads who are getting their pan knocked in week in week out. I can see how it is doable for a team like Aghagallon where they would be asking lads to play on 2 teams. Asking lads to play on 3/4 teams in our club each week just to field a minor team is unfair IMO.
Sounds like having won the A championship Rossa didn't want to have a tough year and bowed out - if everyone did that where would that leave us all.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2018, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 07:01:53 AM
No. The Rossa team last year had one player sanctioned from another club. We knew it was coming this year. We just had a very small group at this age through the years. It can happen at any time to anyone I suppose. I'm sure we could have got 15 players by playing a pile of lads up a grade. The problem is, as a dual club, the fixtures don't lend themselves well to this and you also then have a cohort of lads who are getting their pan knocked in week in week out. I can see how it is doable for a team like Aghagallon where they would be asking lads to play on 2 teams. Asking lads to play on 3/4 teams in our club each week just to field a minor team is unfair IMO.
Sounds like having won the A championship Rossa didn't want to have a tough year and bowed out - if everyone did that where would that leave us all.....
Sounds like you've invented that it sounds like that to suit your presumed narrative. We've won many A championships and had many tough years so that'd be nothing new.
My only narrative is that i've never heard of a team winning an A Championship one year and not even having a team the next year - this has to be a first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on April 02, 2018, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 30, 2018, 04:13:21 PM
If not playing league football all year then you should not be allowed to enter championship.


If you have players sanctioned to other teams, surely they cant play anyway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on April 03, 2018, 12:41:57 PM
Shouldnt matter when you have 10000 cubs on your doorstep to pick from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 07:01:53 AM
No. The Rossa team last year had one player sanctioned from another club. We knew it was coming this year. We just had a very small group at this age through the years. It can happen at any time to anyone I suppose. I'm sure we could have got 15 players by playing a pile of lads up a grade. The problem is, as a dual club, the fixtures don't lend themselves well to this and you also then have a cohort of lads who are getting their pan knocked in week in week out. I can see how it is doable for a team like Aghagallon where they would be asking lads to play on 2 teams. Asking lads to play on 3/4 teams in our club each week just to field a minor team is unfair IMO.
Sounds like having won the A championship Rossa didn't want to have a tough year and bowed out - if everyone did that where would that leave us all.....

I dont think thats really fair to say that. we won the minor A and went into the B the following year. Yes we won the league but sure they were beat in the B county final. Should they have been in A? Probably, but the same group at U16 level got hammered each week in the A league and ended up pulling out due to numbers falling.

underage is hard sometimes to gauge until your standing there with the bare bones and no one wants to field for the sake of it and see a bunch of kids getting hammered each week. Does neither team any good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 04, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 04, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 07:01:53 AM
No. The Rossa team last year had one player sanctioned from another club. We knew it was coming this year. We just had a very small group at this age through the years. It can happen at any time to anyone I suppose. I'm sure we could have got 15 players by playing a pile of lads up a grade. The problem is, as a dual club, the fixtures don't lend themselves well to this and you also then have a cohort of lads who are getting their pan knocked in week in week out. I can see how it is doable for a team like Aghagallon where they would be asking lads to play on 2 teams. Asking lads to play on 3/4 teams in our club each week just to field a minor team is unfair IMO.
Sounds like having won the A championship Rossa didn't want to have a tough year and bowed out - if everyone did that where would that leave us all.....

I dont think thats really fair to say that. we won the minor A and went into the B the following year. Yes we won the league but sure they were beat in the B county final. Should they have been in A? Probably, but the same group at U16 level got hammered each week in the A league and ended up pulling out due to numbers falling.

underage is hard sometimes to gauge until your standing there with the bare bones and no one wants to field for the sake of it and see a bunch of kids getting hammered each week. Does neither team any good.
In hindsight maybe I was a bit harsh on Rossa. St Brigids are the team to watch from Belfast this year - is it Aghagallon from SW this year? or are Dunloy in with a shout realist?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 04, 2018, 02:48:52 PM
Is Ballymena not the team to beat this year or is that next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
yeah this was the year that Ballymena won the feile at U14. it should be that team coming through this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2018, 04:08:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 04, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 04, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 07:01:53 AM
No. The Rossa team last year had one player sanctioned from another club. We knew it was coming this year. We just had a very small group at this age through the years. It can happen at any time to anyone I suppose. I'm sure we could have got 15 players by playing a pile of lads up a grade. The problem is, as a dual club, the fixtures don't lend themselves well to this and you also then have a cohort of lads who are getting their pan knocked in week in week out. I can see how it is doable for a team like Aghagallon where they would be asking lads to play on 2 teams. Asking lads to play on 3/4 teams in our club each week just to field a minor team is unfair IMO.
Sounds like having won the A championship Rossa didn't want to have a tough year and bowed out - if everyone did that where would that leave us all.....

I dont think thats really fair to say that. we won the minor A and went into the B the following year. Yes we won the league but sure they were beat in the B county final. Should they have been in A? Probably, but the same group at U16 level got hammered each week in the A league and ended up pulling out due to numbers falling.

underage is hard sometimes to gauge until your standing there with the bare bones and no one wants to field for the sake of it and see a bunch of kids getting hammered each week. Does neither team any good.
In hindsight maybe I was a bit harsh on Rossa. St Brigids are the team to watch from Belfast this year - is it Aghagallon from SW this year? or are Dunloy in with a shout realist?

a few teams have failed to field at minor before - ourselves included there for a few years/ Some times you get a bad year when theres more girls than boys and your left with a weak squad. I would rather see a team play B grade than get beat week after week.

I think we could give it a decent run in the SW but Ballymena, going by the Feile year, were the team to beat then. they have a number of very good players in their ranks. Aghagallon would def look a good prospect with all the lads playing schools football recently. We would be strong this year again in the hurling going for 4 in a row but if Rossa are still all there again they will be strong in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 07, 2018, 05:42:30 PM
Some win for st Ronans.


Well done the aghagallon lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 07, 2018, 06:10:30 PM
What an achievement and what a proud day for our club. The lads deserve all the plaudits they get over this next few weeks. The best day I've ever had in Croke Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2018, 07:13:38 PM
Great day for your club Jim. Congrats to the lads themselves and all the men who played a part in their development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2018, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 07, 2018, 07:13:38 PM
Great day for your club Jim. Congrats to the lads themselves and all the men who played a part in their development.

Second that Skull, well done to the lads Jim, like I said before, bringing those lads through is the hard  stuff but a great progressive club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 07, 2018, 08:52:14 PM
It might stop people travelling from Lurgan to St. Coleman's I'm Newry now. Lurgan is a Gaelic mad town and the buzz about the place is unreal. It'll take years for these lads to realise what they have done. The young ones in our club have some fantastic role models to look up to as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 07, 2018, 09:02:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 07, 2018, 08:52:14 PM
It might stop people travelling from Lurgan to St. Coleman's I'm Newry now. Lurgan is a Gaelic mad town and the buzz about the place is unreal. It'll take years for these lads to realise what they have done. The young ones in our club have some fantastic role models to look up to as well.

Like yourself and big mert jim. Pillar caffreys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 08, 2018, 02:06:24 AM
Congrats Jim etc.

St Marys and our county will benefit from today...a great club that's progressing every year.

Nervy last 10 minutes!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 08, 2018, 09:22:24 AM
Fantastic achievement. Will be interesting to see if any (or how many) of those involved progress to wearing Saffron for our seniors in the next few years.

Big shout out to John Mc Keever who was involved in Holy Trinitys all Ireland B college success beforehand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Galer on April 08, 2018, 04:18:10 PM
Good to see so many antrim players involved in top end schools football.funny i remeber getting ridiculed on here for suggesting hot strong lurgan schools are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2018, 08:30:48 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 07, 2018, 08:52:14 PM
It might stop people travelling from Lurgan to St. Coleman's I'm Newry now. Lurgan is a Gaelic mad town and the buzz about the place is unreal. It'll take years for these lads to realise what they have done. The young ones in our club have some fantastic role models to look up to as well.

Fantastic achievement for the school and your club. it was brilliant to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Early in the season I know, but the Belfast clubs seem to be picking up where they finished last year.  Both A & B boys Feile going to city clubs.  Could it be another clean sweep for Belfast? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2018, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Early in the season I know, but the Belfast clubs seem to be picking up where they finished last year.  Both A & B boys Feile going to city clubs.  Could it be another clean sweep for Belfast?

What is the criteria for clubs selecting to go A or B?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 04:09:44 PM
In South Antrim its the CCC who decide if a club is A or B.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 16, 2018, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Early in the season I know, but the Belfast clubs seem to be picking up where they finished last year.  Both A & B boys Feile going to city clubs.  Could it be another clean sweep for Belfast?
Whose turn is it to get all the good players from around the city this year?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 16, 2018, 09:51:25 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 16, 2018, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Early in the season I know, but the Belfast clubs seem to be picking up where they finished last year.  Both A & B boys Feile going to city clubs.  Could it be another clean sweep for Belfast?
Whose turn is it to get all the good players from around the city this year?  ;)

Holy Ghost.. this early in the season and your suggesting that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 18, 2018, 09:25:02 AM
Watched an excellent All Saints minor team last night. Confident there would be two or three potentially good county seniors in their ranks if they stay at it. Notably a midfielder too, really caught the eye.

Senior leagues start tonight. All quiet on here....everyone quietly optimistic as usual at this time of the year lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2018, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 18, 2018, 09:25:02 AM
Watched an excellent All Saints minor team last night. Confident there would be two or three potentially good county seniors in their ranks if they stay at it. Notably a midfielder too, really caught the eye.

Senior leagues start tonight. All quiet on here....everyone quietly optimistic as usual at this time of the year lol.

Tight lipped!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 18, 2018, 10:38:55 AM
I think it will be a very interesting division one this year. Two or three teams (Cargin Lamhs and Johnnies) think they are number one, Galls haven't gone away, Creggan always thereabouts still chasing the big one (in recent terms) and then there are the rest.

Rossa always a dark horse, Aghagallon on a definite progress curve, Portglenone blow hot and cold and need consistency, and of the rest, everyone capable of picking up points on their day!

Anyone brave enough to predict the top six in descending order??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 18, 2018, 01:37:12 PM
My predictions

Wed 18 Apr 2018
7 00 PM
St John's GAC v Naomh Gall
Corrigan Park
Brendan Toland 

Wed 18 Apr 2018
7 15 PM
O`Donovan Rossa v Naomh Treasa CLG
St Teresa's GAC
Pairc Rossa
Fionntan Mc Cotter 

Wed 18 Apr 2018
7 30 PM
Lamh Dhearg v Roger Casements Portglenone
Lamh Dhearg
Darren Mc Keown 

Wed 18 Apr 2018
8 00 PM
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille v Naomh Éanna
Ahoghill
Sean Laverty 

Wed 18 Apr 2018
8 00 PM
St. Mary's G.A.C. Aghagallon v Kickhams GAC Creggan
Pairc Na nGael
Eamonn Mc Auley 

Wed 18 Apr 2018
8 00 PM
Clan na hEireann Carragan v Naomh Seosamh/St Joseph's
Erin's Own Cargin
Karol Doherty 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
I hope everyone is supporting Saffron Gaels effort to promote whats going on across the county in all codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Some scoreline in the dunloy match -3-0 to 0-8 with apparently 2 goals in injury time!

Some interesting results there. St galls beating st johns, portglenone so close against lamh dhearg.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on April 18, 2018, 10:43:04 PM
Not many surprises tonight. The only one maybe being Davitt beating randalstown in div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 18, 2018, 11:49:52 PM
We had a good old tussle against the county champions up in Hannahstown. Albeit they were without the redoubtable Ryan Murray. But we will take a few positives from it.

Some win for big Fitzy and St Endas....not to many teams come out of Ahoghill with a win as big as that. Some start for them.
Nice start for Creggan and St Galls too. In div two there will be some head scratching around Ballymena and Randalstown!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 19, 2018, 07:29:21 AM
Wed 18 Apr 2018

Cuchullians-Dunloy 3-0  -   0-8 All Saints Ballymena

Has a GAA team ever won a match before without putting the ball over the bar !
Or is this a typo ?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2018, 07:31:11 AM
 2 of the goals were in injury time!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 19, 2018, 08:32:01 AM
not a typo. there was an absolute gale force wind blowing down the pitch and it was a total nightmare for both sides. it was 0-07 to 1-00 before we got a penalty to make it 2-00 to 0-07. All Saints scored another point before we scored a final goal in injury time.

A real classic for the ages lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2018, 07:02:46 PM
Who are the belfast team that played st malachys? Laochra something? Whatpart of belfast are they from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 19, 2018, 07:52:02 PM
Stand out result definitely St Endas winning away from home in their first match in Div 1 in a long time. Really good for promoted teams to get a good start......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2018, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2018, 07:02:46 PM
Who are the belfast team that played st malachys? Laochra something? Whatpart of belfast are they from?
West (Mainly). Irish language team.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 20, 2018, 01:56:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2018, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2018, 07:02:46 PM
Who are the belfast team that played st malachys? Laochra something? Whatpart of belfast are they from?
West (Mainly). Irish language team.
Cheers.

I think Loch Lao is the original Irish name for Belfast Lough?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on April 20, 2018, 03:33:41 PM
Where have they got all the players from? Is it ones playing for no other clubs or did they get a lot of tranfers in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on April 20, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
The KINGS of Antrim football have risen. St Galls back on the match  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: darrenNGA on April 25, 2018, 11:47:42 AM
I fancy a strong St John's challenge this year for the SFC. Lots of young exciting players who haven't grown up in awe of St Galls the way others might have been.  St Enda's to stay up. Good work going on up there.  Might well be St Teresa's year to finally fall. Fair play to them. Great effort to stay up for so long especially with little to no underage work to show over the years.

St Brigids I reckon will go up.  They seem to score loads of goals in Division 2 and that will be the big difference in tight matches.    O'Donnells to go down.

Loch Lao team going to struggle massively.  They seem to have a lot of Gort players and a few from St Pauls judging by social media.  Glenravel going to be too strong for everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 25, 2018, 11:58:22 AM
I think it'll be a fight between LD and Cargin.  St Johns have missed their chance and change of management won't help them.  Creggan perennial dark horses - always tricky but if they are going to make it, then it has to be this year as a culmination of all their efforts as past ten years. Now or never. st galls will be dangerous and cant be underestimated but will be a surprise if they beat LD or Cargin.   

But sure its only the start of the year, plenty of time for form, injuries, suspensions, luck, weather, grass length etc to all create the drama  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on April 27, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Sorry if this has been touched on before but what way minor championship work now? I see Antrim are down to play Fermanagh. Why does it not follow same pattern as senior draw? Used to be good for young lads to play in front of a big crowd before the senior game. Cant imagine there will be too many at the Fermanagh game 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on April 27, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Antrim Minor Team to play Fermanagh

1.  Luke Mulholland (Aghagallon)

2.  Gerry Downing (Aghahallon)
3.  Ethan Mervyn (Sarsfields)
4.  Ross Murray (Lamh Dhearg)

5.  Declan Gough (Aldergrove)
6.  Dominic McAteer (Creggan)
7.  Mark Munce (St Paul's)

8.  Jack Summersgill (Lamh Dhearg)
9.  Eoin Hynds (Glenravel)

10.  Oisin Doherty (Portglenone)
11.  Callum Fitzpatrick (Aghagallon)
12.  Conor Morris (Aldergrove)

13.  Ciaran O'Neill (Randalstown)
14.  Brian Rogers (St Enda's)
15.  Danann McKeogh (St John's)

16.  Tiernan O'Boyle (Rasharkin)
17.  Fergal Henry (Aldergrove)
18.  Sean McKay (Glenravel)
19.  Alan Hyndman (St Paul's)
20.  Thomas Skillen (Sarsfields)
21.  Corey Fogarty (Glenavy)
22.  Odhran McGarrell (Rasharkin)
23.  Caoimhin Kennedy (Sarsfields)
25.  Oisin Graham (Aldergrove)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on April 27, 2018, 04:31:59 PM
Surprising there are no St Brigids players listed given they won last years u16 championship. Maybe a lot of them are over age with the new Minor age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 28, 2018, 12:32:44 AM
No, they just weren't selected. Good luck to the lads who were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2018, 10:42:32 AM
the u17s were way off the pace yesterday - It'll take a long time for the Gaelfast primary schools initiative to come through to this level - surely we need a similar initiative for secondary schools or else we are doomed for another 8/10 years....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on April 29, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
The two strongest teams at u16 level in the county (St Pauls & St Brigids) for the past two years have 1 player between them on the starting 15? Seems strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2018, 09:27:28 PM
I believe some clubs have not taken well to the u17 management team as they have been telling the players not to go near their clubs and think of the county only. Maybe st brides and St. Paul's were some of the clubs who have not liked the approach. Taking personalities out of it  the GAA need to sort out such matters asap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 30, 2018, 08:33:11 AM
Who were the Un17 management team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on April 30, 2018, 01:47:17 PM
A few things...I'm part of the mgt team! St. Brigid's has 3 members in the panel...2 were injured and 1 left to concentrate on their studies...St. Paul's has 2 lads in the squad, 1 started...no one else from those clubs was available for selection! Before criticising the players, perhaps you should ask them individually what they thought of the set up, rather than speculating...and before you criticise mgt, perhaps you could put yourself forward to do the job yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on April 30, 2018, 02:46:43 PM
Thanks for your time and effort...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on April 30, 2018, 01:47:17 PM
A few things...I'm part of the mgt team! St. Brigid's has 3 members in the panel...2 were injured and 1 left to concentrate on their studies...St. Paul's has 2 lads in the squad, 1 started...no one else from those clubs was available for selection! Before criticising the players, perhaps you should ask them individually what they thought of the set up, rather than speculating...and before you criticise mgt, perhaps you could put yourself forward to do the job yourself.

AP why dont you tell us about the set up from your point of view. That might give a much needed insight into how this type of squad works.
You will find that most if not all the people on this forum are contributing to their clubs etc in various ways.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on April 30, 2018, 01:47:17 PM
A few things...I'm part of the mgt team! St. Brigid's has 3 members in the panel...2 were injured and 1 left to concentrate on their studies...St. Paul's has 2 lads in the squad, 1 started...no one else from those clubs was available for selection! Before criticising the players, perhaps you should ask them individually what they thought of the set up, rather than speculating...and before you criticise mgt, perhaps you could put yourself forward to do the job yourself.

AP why dont you tell us about the set up from your point of view. That might give a much needed insight into how this type of squad works.
You will find that most if not all the people on this forum are contributing to their clubs etc in various ways.
Yes agreed - the posters here all committed gaels no doubt - the issues we are debating are why some strong teams are not represented to our detriment and if the county before club battle is a contributing factor - I thought that's what discussion boards are for! some of the answers may or may not be the fault of the u17 management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on April 30, 2018, 05:16:28 PM
Youngsters are being overtrained at this time of the year and then end up with months without football. At the beginning of the season, I asked for a meeting with parents and club coaches, where I set out a timetable of the season, right through to minor club championship final. I set out what I thought was in the best interests of the lads, ourselves with the county and the clubs. 4 clubs turned up to that meeting along with a number of parents. At the meeting not one person disagreed with what I proposed, despite being given numerous opportunities to do so. Did it happen...no it didn't, resulting in a number of lads picking up overuse injuries because they were being overtrained. We ended up calling sessions short when it came to our attention as we preferred to look after the lads' wel being rather than anything else. Communication between county, clubs and parents is the key, along with coaching egos being left to the side. We tried our best as a management team, but the effort from club coaches was reciprocated by a very small number of people. Until this issue is addressed l, then there is no point in speaking about anything else. I am involved with my own club's under 12 team, which is proving much more rewarding an experience than county minor football, which should not be the case!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 30, 2018, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on April 30, 2018, 05:16:28 PM
Youngsters are being overtrained at this time of the year and then end up with months without football. At the beginning of the season, I asked for a meeting with parents and club coaches, where I set out a timetable of the season, right through to minor club championship final. I set out what I thought was in the best interests of the lads, ourselves with the county and the clubs. 4 clubs turned up to that meeting along with a number of parents. At the meeting not one person disagreed with what I proposed, despite being given numerous opportunities to do so. Did it happen...no it didn't, resulting in a number of lads picking up overuse injuries because they were being overtrained. We ended up calling sessions short when it came to our attention as we preferred to look after the lads' wel being rather than anything else. Communication between county, clubs and parents is the key, along with coaching egos being left to the side. We tried our best as a management team, but the effort from club coaches was reciprocated by a very small number of people. Until this issue is addressed l, then there is no point in speaking about anything else. I am involved with my own club's under 12 team, which is proving much more rewarding an experience than county minor football, which should not be the case!!!
Was this the CBS school meeting, if so I believe several clubs sent representatives, not all were lead coaches at their clubs.
You refer to communication being key, I agree but it's not helpful if the clubs are being communicated to in a fashion of teacher to pupil. I take it that the club coaches are at fault
here for not doing what they were told
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on May 01, 2018, 09:35:09 AM
Never mind over trained, I have it on good authority that one of the starting full forward line on the team v Fermanagh has not played ANY football for his club in 18 months and only plays hurling. His club did not put his name forward for trials as he told them he was only playing hurling this year and yet somehow he was selected for the minor county team. The club did not even know he was on the panel until last week. Bizarre! Great communication from the management. Would a kid in Tyrone who doesnt play football for his club and who doesnt go to a school that plays football even be considered for county selection? Not a chance! Not a bit of wonder we only scored 8 points!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2018, 10:04:20 AM
And who on this board stepped up to take this job? You all must assume that there was a huge selection process with detailed interviews, power point presentations on how they were going to improve Antrim's footballing fortunes!! It's grand to have a plan, but someone needs to step up to the plate sometimes, instead of being a keyboard warrior

Get real. Antim can only work with who comes forward who has a interest in taking the job.. no one is lining up to take these jobs, never have and unfortuntely never will, unless there is a father son interest or the potential of a great set of players become available, after that they are gone, one maybe two seasons.

It's possible that this job needs a steady coach for 5 or 6 seasons, who works very closely with the underage development squads and develops great working relationships with the clubs and their underage mentors.. Minor is a strange age, for a lot of good underage players its very possible that you can lose them to other things, college (when they played at the old minor level)  in a different country, employment, girls! drink and even drugs or to another sport..

How many years did Mickey Harte take the underage teams in Tyrone? I know they were very successful but was it the commitment shown by the management/county or just a great bunch of lads that came through? There was no doubting their success but it had to start somewhere, there had to have been some coaching, training and skills picked up at their clubs and development squads..

Again the county needs to look for someone to come in and take it long term, regardless of the initial results look for small gains along the way until it bears fruit at the other end, senior level!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 01, 2018, 10:58:02 AM
BigBallWeeBall...you are misinformed re the amount of coaches and club reps at the meeting!!! How else are we meant to effectively communicate? Perhaps we should phone each person individually?!? The problem I had was that those who were there agreed with me, I assume, as they didn't once question or correct anything I said. We did speak to a few club coaches directly throughout our time and sometimes we agreed and sometimes we didn't! That's the nature of debate!!! At all times, however, I can honestly say that the best interest of each player was at the centre of our arguments! The county minor season is most of the way through at this stage and the club minor season is 2 games old. Which of the two had the more urgent need of training Players and sorting systems? Clubs preparing their teams for championship in February, which was the line that came back to us a number of times, is just laughable! Perhaps you disagree?!? I would love to hear your rationale for it though? Just to reiterate my point about us not wanting to overtrain players, no player involved with McRory/Hogan Cups trained with Antrim until they were out of that competition...they were at latter stages and therefore more urgent a requirementnship  than ours! All we asked was for similar favours! Would club coaches be happy if we called county training sessions in the 2/3 weeks leading up to the championship later in the year?!? I doubt it!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 01, 2018, 11:04:40 AM
Peileadoir...this isn't really an issue for social media as I believe there are issues there that I am not really privy to, however, suffice to say, the lad in question warranted his place within the team and has been a consistent performer throughout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 01, 2018, 11:08:30 AM
Milltown Row...completely agree with you! The post was filled on 27/28th January, with no one beating the door down looking to give a hand. We have tried our best under the circumstances and those within and close to the Squad are fully aware of that and appreciate what we have tried to do. There are many little things that need addressed and a long term approach to the county minor team would, I agree, be an excellent first step!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on May 01, 2018, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on May 01, 2018, 09:35:09 AM
Never mind over trained, I have it on good authority that one of the starting full forward line on the team v Fermanagh has not played ANY football for his club in 18 months and only plays hurling. His club did not put his name forward for trials as he told them he was only playing hurling this year and yet somehow he was selected for the minor county team. The club did not even know he was on the panel until last week. Bizarre! Great communication from the management. Would a kid in Tyrone who doesnt play football for his club and who doesnt go to a school that plays football even be considered for county selection? Not a chance! Not a bit of wonder we only scored 8 points!

Actually these are the exact circumstances under which Peter Canavan played minor football for Tyrone. There was a dispute in the parish and for a number of years many players played only schools and county football while hurling for their club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sweeper 123 on May 01, 2018, 05:01:11 PM
what baffles me is how come none of the U16 winning team from the year before never made the squad - some fantastic players on that team and certainly deserving of a start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sweeper 123 on May 01, 2018, 05:14:26 PM
oops - that would explain it - no longer baffled
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 01, 2018, 11:08:36 PM
ArmaghPaddy fair play to you and the work you have put in.

Would you not have been better going to the county board with your plans and asking them to get agreement from the clubs? Perhaps getting the clubs to vote on a proposal as regards access to players? Going to individual coaches I think you were always going to mixed response with no agreement in place.... from previous posts it seems you may have only had less than half the clubs represented at your meeting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 02, 2018, 12:45:30 PM
100% Belfast GAA man...it was one of a number of things that I learned from this experience! It has been a massive learning curve for me and I will defo take that from the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on May 02, 2018, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on May 02, 2018, 12:45:30 PM
100% Belfast GAA man...it was one of a number of things that I learned from this experience! It has been a massive learning curve for me and I will defo take that from the season.

What I learned over the years is that you dont always get the "best" footballers/hurlers to even go to the trials or take part in any way. This has been said many times on this board.  Alot of young ones, especially at that age, have their own minds and views on what the County is or is not and find a reason not to go.  The kids that show up are the ones to focus on.  You will have learned many things taking a ANY team, club or county but if you have helped at least one or two, to better themselves as a player and more importantly as a "team player" then it is worth it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 03, 2018, 09:57:44 AM
Thanks Old Timers...hopefully I have 🤞. You're right about Players not attending or making themselves available. I believe the county needs to market themselves better and, perhaps, go above and beyond what other counties are doing in order to attract the top players. It's an honour/privilege to play for Dubs/Tyrone/Kerry etc, but that isn't the case here yet, I believe. That being the case, we need to be more proactive in making it an attractive proposition...unfortunately, that'll take money! 🙈
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2018, 10:27:14 AM
Or if they fed them  ::)! Seems to be one reason why (well a couple posters here believe)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 03, 2018, 11:32:27 AM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on May 03, 2018, 09:57:44 AM
Thanks Old Timers...hopefully I have 🤞. You're right about Players not attending or making themselves available. I believe the county needs to market themselves better and, perhaps, go above and beyond what other counties are doing in order to attract the top players. It's an honour/privilege to play for Dubs/Tyrone/Kerry etc, but that isn't the case here yet, I believe. That being the case, we need to be more proactive in making it an attractive proposition...unfortunately, that'll take money! 🙈

You're quite right, the county needs to go above and beyond with its marketing drive. The fact is it doesn't really feel like an honour to play for Antrim, and some clubs are very detached from the whole setup. Its nice to have experienced intercounty competition but its certainly not the be all and end all like it is in tyrone etc. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: darrenNGA on May 03, 2018, 12:24:33 PM
St Endas in Division 1 and playing intermediate championship??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 03, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
Can anyone stop the Cargin juggernaut?  Relentless stuff.  I actually cant see them losing a game this year in league or championship under this new management.  The real test though is will they be able to mount an Ulster challenge this time around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2018, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 03, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
Can anyone stop the Cargin juggernaut?  Relentless stuff.  I actually cant see them losing a game this year in league or championship under this new management.  The real test though is will they be able to mount an Ulster challenge this time around.

Aging team, won't have it for Ulster, should win Antrim though..Favourites
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on May 03, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 03, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
Can anyone stop the Cargin juggernaut?  Relentless stuff.  I actually cant see them losing a game this year in league or championship under this new management.  The real test though is will they be able to mount an Ulster challenge this time around.

Have you seen them this year? I've watched them a couple of times - I wouldn't describe them as a juggernaut - more like a mini with dirty petrol in the tank!

Watched them play St Teresa's on Sunday - one of the poorest games I've seen at any level for some time.  St Teresa's had the game for the taking - missed a penalty and then pressed the self-destruct button with 3 men sent of. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 04, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
The Saffron Gael team deserve great credit for the effort they are putting in to promote the games online. St Enda's seems to be improved and are being fairly competitive.

Also best wishes to the Gaels of Portglenone for the official opening of their new pitch this weekend. Fantastic achievement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on May 04, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 04, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
The Saffron Gael team deserve great credit for the effort they are putting in to promote the games online. St Enda's seems to be improved and are being fairly competitive.

Also best wishes to the Gaels of Portglenone for the official opening of their new pitch this weekend. Fantastic achievement.

Couldnt agree more Curly and the others are doing a great job of keeping everyone up to date on whats happening and where.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 05, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Minor footballers today scored 0-7 in a big defeat at home to Monaghan. No way does that reflect where we are compared to Monaghan, surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2018, 12:23:26 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 05, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Minor footballers today scored 0-7 in a big defeat at home to Monaghan. No way does that reflect where we are compared to Monaghan, surely?

What did they score last week, 0-8 ? I'm seeing a trend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 06, 2018, 03:07:01 PM
We're you at the game Brendan?!? What were your thoughts?!?
What about yourself Minder?!! What trends are you seeing?!!  Constructive feedback from regular attenders is always part of a valuable  learning experience for everyone!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2018, 05:31:31 PM
Is that the minors over now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 06, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
The juggernaut. Stopped. Stunned by that result. Stunned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2018, 06:37:01 PM
St endas have been close in any games they have lost so seem to have given anyone a run for it.

Randalstown seem to be getting some good results in division 2. St brigids seem to have dropped off a bit - i thougt they would be the best team in that league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 06, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
The juggernaut. Stopped. Stunned by that result. Stunned.
why do you think Cargin are so strong this year? Brennan was a top manager and now they have Cassidy...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ArmaghPaddy on May 06, 2018, 08:45:05 PM
Yes Antrim GAA man...sin ó bhfuil!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 06, 2018, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 06, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
The juggernaut. Stopped. Stunned by that result. Stunned.
why do you think Cargin are so strong this year? Brennan was a top manager and now they have Cassidy...
Cargin may well be relegated this year.....sure the Galls are coming this week and likely another defeat looms large....overthehill.com.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2018, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on May 06, 2018, 03:07:01 PM
We're you at the game Brendan?!? What were your thoughts?!?
What about yourself Minder?!! What trends are you seeing?!!  Constructive feedback from regular attenders is always part of a valuable  learning experience for everyone!

No I wasn't at the game. Didn't even know it was on until it was over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 09:41:15 AM
Anyone point me in the direction of SW U12/U14 league results?

A google search reveals the SW website hasn't been updated since 2016.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2018, 10:57:48 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 09:41:15 AM
Anyone point me in the direction of SW U12/U14 league results?

A google search reveals the SW website hasn't been updated since 2016.

There is South West GAA Facebook page which is updated each week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
Got it!  Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2018, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2018, 10:57:48 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 09:41:15 AM
Anyone point me in the direction of SW U12/U14 league results?

A google search reveals the SW website hasn't been updated since 2016.

There is South West GAA Facebook page which is updated each week.

Quote from: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 11:20:58 AM
Got it!  Cheers

After not winning anything last year, they kicked the SW off the website  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 01:25:44 PM
Ye never miss a trick!   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on May 08, 2018, 01:25:44 PM
Ye never miss a trick!

Ah! the banter.. its getting close to that time again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2018, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: ArmaghPaddy on May 06, 2018, 03:07:01 PM
We're you at the game Brendan?!? What were your thoughts?!?
What about yourself Minder?!! What trends are you seeing?!!  Constructive feedback from regular attenders is always part of a valuable  learning experience for everyone!

No I wasn't at the game. Didn't even know it was on until it was over.

There was plenty of notice on the Antrim Twitter page and Website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2018, 02:05:08 PM
Thoughts on Cassidy as a manager.. for some reason I was conviced that Brennan was staying on to get Cargin further in Ulster?

Cassidy has been around the block so has good knowledge of Ulster football, so that should help Cargin get past the first round at least
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 08, 2018, 02:08:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2018, 02:05:08 PM
Thoughts on Cassidy as a manager.. for some reason I was conviced that Brennan was staying on to get Cargin further in Ulster?

Cassidy has been around the block so has good knowledge of Ulster football, so that should help Cargin get past the first round at least

Which Cassidy?

How do these clubs afford to be paying the sort of money that is being bandied about for some of the so called bigger names?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2018, 03:14:34 PM
Is £100 a week or £30 a session still the going rate for the paid managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 10, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
wouldnt get outta bed for double that  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 10, 2018, 02:19:59 PM
Clubs should be paying the refs a few quid aswell, maybe get decent ones then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2018, 02:23:58 PM
so everyone bar the players PJ  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 10, 2018, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 10, 2018, 02:23:58 PM
so everyone bar the players PJ  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sure there is a rumour that a few lads up around the city were partial to a few brown envelopes  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2018, 08:06:34 PM
Only thing brown in the changing rooms is something that hasn't been flushed properly!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 11, 2018, 11:03:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2018, 08:06:34 PM
Only thing brown in the changing rooms is something that hasn't been flushed properly!

Or when you start talking mate...  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2018, 11:19:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 11, 2018, 11:03:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2018, 08:06:34 PM
Only thing brown in the changing rooms is something that hasn't been flushed properly!

Or when you start talking mate...  ;)

There was enough of that shite talk about the demise of South antrim football not that long ago  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 11, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
just having a look at tonight's ACL DIV 1 Games
st johns v kickams = st johns
Cargin v st Galls = Cargin
Rossa v LD = Rossa
Ag v st T's = AG
Glenavy v ahoghill = Glenavy
St endas v Casements = St endas
All very competitive games tonight that will go down to the last kick of the ball. Watched st endas beat cargin at the weekend cargin down a few however st endas were flying big russ has them going well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 11, 2018, 11:15:33 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 11, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
just having a look at tonight's ACL DIV 1 Games
st johns v kickams = st johns
Cargin v st Galls = Cargin
Rossa v LD = Rossa
Ag v st T's = AG
Glenavy v ahoghill = Glenavy
St endas v Casements = St endas
All very competitive games tonight that will go down to the last kick of the ball. Watched st endas beat cargin at the weekend cargin down a few however st endas were flying big russ has them going well

You might want to try again !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2018, 11:44:50 PM
Cargin playing the reserves tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 12, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
CARGIN

Conor Ewart, Mark Keegan, James Laverty, Kevin Mc Shane, David Johnston (0-02), Justin Crozier, Michael Clarke, John Carron, Gerard Mc Cann, Ciaran Bradley, Michael Mc Cann, Brendan Laverty, Enda Mc Grogan, Michael Magill, Tomas Mc Cann (1-04)

Not to many reserves there by the looks of things?
What has happened Cargin this last 2 games?

Cassidy under MASSIVE pressure now. When paying top dollar, I'd be expecting results
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 12, 2018, 09:33:58 AM
Be foolish to write of St Galls like everyone has - lot of know how and some young legs too - LD only beat them in injury time last year and they won it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 12, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
I'd imagine Cassidy's remit with Cargin is to regain the Championship rather than win another league title, so whilst there might be a few eyebrows raised at the results I don't think there will be any mass panic in Toome just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 12, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
I'd imagine Cassidy's remit with Cargin is to regain the Championship rather than win another league title, so whilst there might be a few eyebrows raised at the results I don't think there will be any mass panic in Toome just yet.

Would it not be to do better in Ulster? Chronic displays with a very good team.. Cassidy obviously putting a playing style in place, should bear fruit come championship I'd imagine..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 12, 2018, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 12, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
I'd imagine Cassidy's remit with Cargin is to regain the Championship rather than win another league title, so whilst there might be a few eyebrows raised at the results I don't think there will be any mass panic in Toome just yet.
I hear Damien Cassidy was brought in to ensure Cargin would regain the league title and I can believe that when as Christmas Tree points out they are fielding at strength.
Marty Kane, Kobo,, Tony Scullion, Kieran Close, Paul Mc Can, Gerard Mc Corley, Donnach Mc Keever, John Mc Nabb and Jamie Gribbin have all been dropped and were all parked in the bench last nite.
St Gall's with a lotta young talent introduced must be strong favourites to regain the senior title 2018.. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2018, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2018, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 12, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
I'd imagine Cassidy's remit with Cargin is to regain the Championship rather than win another league title, so whilst there might be a few eyebrows raised at the results I don't think there will be any mass panic in Toome just yet.
I hear Damien Cassidy was brought in to ensure Cargin would regain the league title and I can believe that when as Christmas Tree points out they are fielding at strength.
Marty Kane, Kobo,, Tony Scullion, Kieran Close, Paul Mc Can, Gerard Mc Corley, Donnach Mc Keever, John Mc Nabb and Jamie Gribbin have all been dropped and were all parked in the bench last nite.
St Gall's with a lotta young talent introduced must be strong favourites to regain the senior title 2018.. ;)

That's what I thought, all the best on the bench or dropped or injured! Good sign to only be best by ten at home then with such a weak team out! The Championship matters, Cargin have nearly caught on that peaking in late August early September is best..

What's the average now of Cargins best team? Ourselves and uses are too old for the flying Johnnies/Lamhs lads, I'd say Creggan and Ports must feel they have chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 12, 2018, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2018, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 12, 2018, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 12, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
I'd imagine Cassidy's remit with Cargin is to regain the Championship rather than win another league title, so whilst there might be a few eyebrows raised at the results I don't think there will be any mass panic in Toome just yet.
I hear Damien Cassidy was brought in to ensure Cargin would regain the league title and I can believe that when as Christmas Tree points out they are fielding at strength.
Marty Kane, Kobo,, Tony Scullion, Kieran Close, Paul Mc Can, Gerard Mc Corley, Donnach Mc Keever, John Mc Nabb and Jamie Gribbin have all been dropped and were all parked in the bench last nite.
St Gall's with a lotta young talent introduced must be strong favourites to regain the senior title 2018.. ;)

That's what I thought, all the best on the bench or dropped or injured! Good sign to only be best by ten at home then with such a weak team out! The Championship matters, Cargin have nearly caught on that peaking in late August early September is best..

What's the average now of Cargins best team? Ourselves and uses are too old for the flying Johnnies/Lamhs lads, I'd say Creggan and Ports must feel they have chance
Gall's are the best I have seen this year........out on their own if they can keep up the gallop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 13, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
How can St Brigids be so strong as juvenile level and be mid table division 2 at senior? I think they have 2 teams at u12,u14,u16 and minor and are always competing in finals if not winning them - strange!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 13, 2018, 10:48:41 PM
It's almost like success at youth level doesn't guarantee  success at senior level.  Who Would have thought  it like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 13, 2018, 11:00:39 PM
yeah - weirdly, the successful u12's aren't allowed to play senior. Pity.  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 14, 2018, 09:00:09 AM
After seeing Fridays results there has been a few surprises good to see kickams going up into the city and taking two points off st johns not often that happens, as bad of form cargin have been in and players missing I still think they would have got a result from the st galls game, I think ahoghills relegation is inevitable this season sad to see as for such a small club done so well for years. Four red cards in the St endas casements game I hear however st endas have started to show real character the past few weeks after a few hard luck results they have got two good results on the trot and a young team gaining momentum is a great combination - a two weeks break now as the saffs prepare to spring a surprise upon the men from the county down 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2018, 11:50:20 AM
was at our game yday v st bridget's and it was horrible to watch. its most def at times like this you have to wonder who plans the games for clubs and what their logic is. They played a North Antrim hurling match v Carey on Saturday, the football on Sunday and then tonight they have the reserve hurling championship. thats 3 games in 3 days for some of them.

It made ydays game a farce and a waste of time for st bridget's travelling down from Belfast. Its deeply frustrating for any management to be put in the position where your asking fellas to play 3 days in a row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 14, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2018, 11:50:20 AM
was at our game yday v st bridget's and it was horrible to watch. its most def at times like this you have to wonder who plans the games for clubs and what their logic is. They played a North Antrim hurling match v Carey on Saturday, the football on Sunday and then tonight they have the reserve hurling championship. thats 3 games in 3 days for some of them.

It made ydays game a farce and a waste of time for st bridget's travelling down from Belfast. Its deeply frustrating for any management to be put in the position where your asking fellas to play 3 days in a row.

Why was the football match not played on Friday night with the other fixtures? Agreed that it is too much to ask any player to complete that sort of schedule but apparently burn out is only applicable to underage players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 14, 2018, 12:42:37 PM
Cargin certainly seem to be stuttering with a combination of new manager, new formation and loss of players at the moment. Certainly don't look as fit as the other teams they have played against - MR may be right in that they are trying to manage their fitness peak time. Still, Cassidy must be feeling under a bit of pressure at the moment.

St Galls have obviously the hunger back which is a massive point. Johnnies and LDs potentially managing fitness themselves as well.  Creggan simply HAVE to do something this year as they traditionally start the league campaign off well and then fall away so no change then. Would a league or an o cahan cup count as progress? doubtful.   St Galls the dark horses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 14, 2018, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 13, 2018, 11:00:39 PM
yeah - weirdly, the successful u12's aren't allowed to play senior. Pity.  ::)
Everyone on here  is in funny form which great to hear!  - just interested in finding out when juvenile strength isn't translating for the south belfast boys - always struck me as a hardworking well run club too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on May 17, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Whats the story with CJ McGourty, did he leave the panel himself or was he pushed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: darrenNGA on May 17, 2018, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2018, 11:50:20 AM
They played a North Antrim hurling match v Carey on Saturday

This isn't All-county though. In South Antrim, these types of games are played by reserve teams.  To be fair, I understand your point that as a dual club, you are punished for being active and organised but I would have to disagree with using a North Antrim game as an argument against it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on May 17, 2018, 02:05:11 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on May 17, 2018, 11:21:14 AM
Whats the story with CJ McGourty, did he leave the panel himself or was he pushed?

He's recently been appointed as the hurling GDO for Down, he'll be too busy in the Ards to be playing intercounty football.

Welcome CJ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 18, 2018, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on May 17, 2018, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2018, 11:50:20 AM
They played a North Antrim hurling match v Carey on Saturday

This isn't All-county though. In South Antrim, these types of games are played by reserve teams.  To be fair, I understand your point that as a dual club, you are punished for being active and organised but I would have to disagree with using a North Antrim game as an argument against it.

Its not is true but the same lads play football as well which badly hampers a dual club. were already without the 3 county hurlers for the football games which again doesn't help but thats the joys of being a dual club.

Its a feast or famine which is the sad thing when it comes to games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 21, 2018, 08:00:24 PM
Looking ahead to the u20 championship match on saturday does anyone know how preparations are going? was there a league for the 20s?
After the u17s not going well this year we could do with a boost....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2018, 11:04:13 PM
No insights into the U20 preparation, but wouldn't that be the core of the teams that won a few minor games in successive years?

Re the senior game, I'm looking forward to this one much more than the last couple of years, its a winnable game against a team that will hopefully open up a bit and actually play a bit of football. Our championship performances the last few years were poor, too negative and narrow. We have some brilliant footballers, lets see them play this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 22, 2018, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 21, 2018, 11:04:13 PM
No insights into the U20 preparation, but wouldn't that be the core of the teams that won a few minor games in successive years?

Re the senior game, I'm looking forward to this one much more than the last couple of years, its a winnable game against a team that will hopefully open up a bit and actually play a bit of football. Our championship performances the last few years were poor, too negative and narrow. We have some brilliant footballers, lets see them play this weekend.

Yes -you would hope the Aghagallon boys all ireland success would be a good boost to the u20 squad - must be a difficult squad to run with championship clashing with peak exam time at school and university - Aagh the GAA fixture calendar!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 24, 2018, 09:30:38 AM
Any insights into team selection for Down on Saturday? Will Lenny switch up the system a bit to counter Downs danger men? Its a pity CJ is off the panel. Feel we might be found wanting for scores in the closing stages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 24, 2018, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on May 24, 2018, 09:30:38 AM
Any insights into team selection for Down on Saturday? Will Lenny switch up the system a bit to counter Downs danger men? Its a pity CJ is off the panel. Feel we might be found wanting for scores in the closing stages.
I would expect big Ricky J to pick up Connaire Harrison, probably niall delargy on Donal O'Hare. Paddy Gallagher isn't capable of marking a player like Harrison.
Will we try and mark Mooney or will we make mooney mark ? he's key to everything going forward I think a player like paddy McBride would be perfect he's able to going both ways, it will be interesting to see what lenny does but if we win the 2/3 key personal battles we are in with a chance of causing an upset.
Not to worried about CJ hes great from frees but with the shape hes in he wont offer much from play against a team like down. I see McKeever is due to start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 24, 2018, 03:07:45 PM
Best of luck to Antrim and I hope they have a game plan to take it to Down rather than sit back and defend.  £24 into the Stand seems a lot considering how poor the product can be these days.  The GAA are on thin enough ice if they think they can sustain these prices and yet a lot of coaches are drilling such dreary and unwatchable tactics into their teams. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 25, 2018, 09:05:15 AM
Ticket prices fairly scandalous these days and not too many all stars to view. could be a low enough crowd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 25, 2018, 10:13:13 AM
Wonder why a full list of league fixtures is listed for Sunday the day after championship and none for the following few weeks....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 25, 2018, 11:13:42 AM
1. Chris Kerr Criostoir Mac Giolla Cheara Naomh Gall

2 Peter Healy Peadar O hÉilidhe Naomh Eanna

3 Patrick Gallagher Padraig O Gallchoir Lann Abhaigh

4 Niall Delargy Niall O Duilearga Ruairí Mhic Asmáint

5 Kevin O Boyle (Capt) Caoimhin Ó Baoill Clann na hÉireann

6 Ricky Johnston Risteard Mac Seagháin Ciceam an Creagán

7 James Laverty Seamas Ó Labhraí Clann na hÉireann

8 Patrick McAleer Padraig Mac Giolla Uir Naomh Uile

9 Niall McKeever Niall Mac Iomhair Ruairi Mhic Asmaint

10 Mark Sweeney Marcas Mac Suibhne Naomh Jude

11 Conor Murray Conchúr Ó Muiri Lamh Dhearg

12 Ruairi McCann Ruairi Mac Cana Ciceam an Creagán

13 Ryan Murray Rian O Muiri Lamh Dhearg

14 Matthew Fitzpatrick Maitiú Mac Giolla Pádraig Naomh Eoin

15 Patrick McBride Padraig Mac Goilla Bhride Naomh Eoin

16 Andrew Hasson Aindriu O hOsain Ros Earcain

17 Stephen Beatty Stiofan Mac Biataigh Ui Donnabhain Rosa

18 Pat Branagan Padraig O Branagáin Achadh Galláin

19 Conor Burke Conchúr de Búrca Naomh Gall

20 Colum Duffin Coilm O Duifinn Naomh Eargnaid

21 Odhran Eastwood Odhran Mac Conurchoille Naomh Eanna

22 Kristian Healy Kristan O hÉilidhe Naomh Eanna

23 Connell Lemon Conal Mac Laghmainn Naomh Uile

24 Declan Lynch Deaglan Loingsign Lamh Dhearg

25 Michael McCarry Micheal Mac Fhearaigh Naomh Uile

26 Eunan Walsh Ádhamhnán Breathnach Achadh Galláin

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 25, 2018, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 25, 2018, 11:13:42 AM
1. Chris Kerr Criostoir Mac Giolla Cheara Naomh Gall

2 Peter Healy Peadar O hÉilidhe Naomh Eanna

3 Patrick Gallagher Padraig O Gallchoir Lann Abhaigh

4 Niall Delargy Niall O Duilearga Ruairí Mhic Asmáint

5 Kevin O Boyle (Capt) Caoimhin Ó Baoill Clann na hÉireann

6 Ricky Johnston Risteard Mac Seagháin Ciceam an Creagán

7 James Laverty Seamas Ó Labhraí Clann na hÉireann

8 Patrick McAleer Padraig Mac Giolla Uir Naomh Uile

9 Niall McKeever Niall Mac Iomhair Ruairi Mhic Asmaint

10 Mark Sweeney Marcas Mac Suibhne Naomh Jude

11 Conor Murray Conchúr Ó Muiri Lamh Dhearg

12 Ruairi McCann Ruairi Mac Cana Ciceam an Creagán

13 Ryan Murray Rian O Muiri Lamh Dhearg

14 Matthew Fitzpatrick Maitiú Mac Giolla Pádraig Naomh Eoin

15 Patrick McBride Padraig Mac Goilla Bhride Naomh Eoin

16 Andrew Hasson Aindriu O hOsain Ros Earcain

17 Stephen Beatty Stiofan Mac Biataigh Ui Donnabhain Rosa

18 Pat Branagan Padraig O Branagáin Achadh Galláin

19 Conor Burke Conchúr de Búrca Naomh Gall

20 Colum Duffin Coilm O Duifinn Naomh Eargnaid

21 Odhran Eastwood Odhran Mac Conurchoille Naomh Eanna

22 Kristian Healy Kristan O hÉilidhe Naomh Eanna

23 Connell Lemon Conal Mac Laghmainn Naomh Uile

24 Declan Lynch Deaglan Loingsign Lamh Dhearg

25 Michael McCarry Micheal Mac Fhearaigh Naomh Uile

26 Eunan Walsh Ádhamhnán Breathnach Achadh Galláin

Thoughts?


Looks pretty close to the personnel used during the league, id imagine they will line up slightly differently to whats named though. Sweeney at CHB no doubt and Paddy McBride HF would be surprised Ricky the most likely candidate to pick up Harrison in that line up.

Good options off the bench as well.

I think Antrim have a real good chance of winning Down not going well in the league and Newry certainly not the most intimidating place to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on May 25, 2018, 06:25:36 PM
Why is CJ not on the panel? Seen him in a McKenna cup game in Woodlands, looked like he didn't winter too well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 25, 2018, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 25, 2018, 10:13:13 AM
Wonder why a full list of league fixtures is listed for Sunday the day after championship and none for the following few weeks....??
GAA talk a good game about player welfare but this shows it's all talk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 26, 2018, 10:43:32 PM
First half tactics were a joke.  Down pushed up on our kick-outs and won the ball in midfield time and again.  We fell back every time they had a kick-out and gifted them 100% possession and they were in our half with ease before hitting a runner.  Some of the individual performances were way off, how some of these players have knocked out a county career is beyond me.  Discipline also seems a problem - players walking off after being substituted shaking their heads , complaining from the pitch to the manager about the tactics, and the sending off was a joke - kneeing a fella on the ground smack in front of the linesman, wtf.  And the ticket price was a rip off - there's a good aul bunch of loyal Antrim supporters but they were taken for a ride tonight.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 27, 2018, 12:33:37 AM
We were never in any danger of winning that match tonight. Hard to understand what our first half tactics were. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 27, 2018, 06:16:03 AM
Very poor indeed. Are you really surprised though? They're a division 4 team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 27, 2018, 09:13:21 AM
Gutted by yesterday. Wanted to believe things had improved, wanted to believe the posters on here that the bargain bucket management team would be different...this time (after yet again choosing the cheapest manager)   Obviously hadnt. Basic tactical errors.  No joy in saying 'told you so' but.....

Radical work needs done in near future. That was a hiding.  Quality in that squad is desperate. Time to do the time honoured antrim tradition of parachuting in the stay away stars coz current panel severely lacking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 27, 2018, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 27, 2018, 09:13:21 AM
Gutted by yesterday. Wanted to believe things had improved, wanted to believe the posters on here that the bargain bucket management team would be different...this time (after yet again choosing the cheapest manager)   Obviously hadnt. Basic tactical errors.  No joy in saying 'told you so' but.....

Radical work needs done in near future. That was a hiding.  Quality in that squad is desperate. Time to do the time honoured antrim tradition of parachuting in the stay away stars coz current panel severely lacking.

What stay away stars?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on May 27, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
Jesus lads I've seen bad teams but IMO that is one of the worst Antrim teams I have ever seen
I thought your manager would have been a bit more clued in
To give up all the kickouts was a big mistake
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: old timers on May 27, 2018, 05:55:42 PM
Bad weekend all round for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 27, 2018, 07:09:04 PM
Waiting for the apologists amd establishment men to try and defend the manager......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on May 27, 2018, 09:59:57 PM
Hearing there was a fair bit of fistycuffs at portglenone v st johns today.
Bannside want to elaborate. Was it as bad as im hearing ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on May 27, 2018, 10:07:10 PM
After our worst championship performance in years the boards very quiet all lennys backers looking excuses for him. Love to hear what people thought.
Kickouts were poor.
Defense was non existent.
Midfield cleaned out.
Forwards lived of scraps.
Players didnt look happy coming off the pitch when subbed maybe the camps not as galvanised as reported.
Cracks starting to appear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on May 27, 2018, 11:00:30 PM
Could the 3 wise men of Antrim football please come out from behind the couch in frank delargys house
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Clover on May 27, 2018, 11:05:57 PM
Are portglenone going to wait until this player seriously hurts someone before they do anything about him county board need to investigate by all accounts very bad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 28, 2018, 07:38:16 PM
I was at the match. One of the worst brawls I have seen a few casements men should be ashamed of there actions. There could have been some supporters seriously hurt if it wasn't for a couple of calm heads- it was a good hard hitting game until the end when both teams lost their discipline
As for Antrim we play Offaly a must win game in what has been a bitterly disappointing season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 28, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
Surely not Bannside. Thought it was only Derry football had this problem..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 28, 2018, 08:11:06 PM
beat in first round of u17, u20 and senior! If £200k a year for 5 years at primary school is our ray of hope then we are going to have another decade of the same
Surely we need another initiative a secondary schools with an aim of winning a macrory cup before we can hope to win anything at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 28, 2018, 08:29:04 PM
Saffron Gael correspondent obviously didn't  witness anything untoward at Portglenone on Sunday??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 28, 2018, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 28, 2018, 07:38:16 PM
I was at the match. One of the worst brawls I have seen a few casements men should be ashamed of there actions. There could have been some supporters seriously hurt if it wasn't for a couple of calm heads- it was a good hard hitting game until the end when both teams lost their discipline
As for Antrim we play Offaly a must win game in what has been a bitterly disappointing season

Funny enough I've spoken to both Casements and St Johns club men who were at the game. Not surprisingly both blame each other but also take portion of blame. I heard a few cars were damaged to.

The Antrim display on Saturday left a lot to be desired. Shocking poor and Chris Kerr was left out to dry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 28, 2018, 10:03:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 28, 2018, 08:11:06 PM
beat in first round of u17, u20 and senior! If £200k a year for 5 years at primary school is our ray of hope then we are going to have another decade of the same
Surely we need another initiative a secondary schools with an aim of winning a macrory cup before we can hope to win anything at senior level

9 Aghagallon players won MacRory and Hogan Cups this year.  And the Creggan lads were key men for Magherafelt in the MacRory Final as well.  But I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 29, 2018, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: Clover on May 27, 2018, 11:05:57 PM
Are portglenone going to wait until this player seriously hurts someone before they do anything about him county board need to investigate by all accounts very bad

Who are you talking about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 29, 2018, 05:21:04 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

What player?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 30, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

A windup surely.  Track records of both clubs don't compare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 30, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

A windup surely.  Track records of both clubs don't compare.

Yip...

All very quiet this week on the performance of the county team, some people have went as far to say it was one of the worst they've witnessed from an Antrim team, even through the days of Frank Dawson. Will we beat Offaly? Not the worst draw but I'm sure they are thinking the same of us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 30, 2018, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 30, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

A windup surely.  Track records of both clubs don't compare.
Totally agree - St Johns have poor recent disciplinary record and I haven't heard of PG1 being involved in any incidents - will all the incidents be captured in ref's report to allow an investigation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 30, 2018, 04:20:59 PM
Are st brigids still playing at Musgave? have passed it lots recently in the early evening and havent seen any matches on.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 30, 2018, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 30, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

A windup surely.  Track records of both clubs don't compare.

Yip...

All very quiet this week on the performance of the county team, some people have went as far to say it was one of the worst they've witnessed from an Antrim team, even through the days of Frank Dawson. Will we beat Offaly? Not the worst draw but I'm sure they are thinking the same of us.

Sometimes, you just cant defend the indefensible.  The farce of the managers appointment and the disillusionment of the players (highlighted by lack of buy in) has been borne out by that abject display.  But the manager was cute enough on appointment to say 'a five year plan' (instead of the usual 3).

We're on the wrong road again, regardless of what happens against offaly

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 30, 2018, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 30, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 30, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2018, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: bit of banter on May 29, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

A windup surely.  Track records of both clubs don't compare.

Yip...

All very quiet this week on the performance of the county team, some people have went as far to say it was one of the worst they've witnessed from an Antrim team, even through the days of Frank Dawson. Will we beat Offaly? Not the worst draw but I'm sure they are thinking the same of us.

Sometimes, you just cant defend the indefensible.  The farce of the managers appointment and the disillusionment of the players (highlighted by lack of buy in) has been borne out by that abject display.  But the manager was cute enough on appointment to say 'a five year plan' (instead of the usual 3).

We're on the wrong road again, regardless of what happens against offaly

Who were the stay aways Spike?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 30, 2018, 11:19:02 PM
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Player in question has well documented history of striking on the pitch. Are the county board and Portglenone going to wait until someone doesnt get up before they act. I see bannside hasnt commented which would indicate how bad the fighting was.
We need these incidents stamped out of our game and the only way is for stronger punnishments on players and clubs. God forbid your son was on the wrong end of a vicious attack on the pitch, playing our amature games.

Is this a wind up?

What angelic club is this statement coming from?

It has to be a wind up. Every club in this county has had these incidents at their games. I think the dislike of certain members of the PG1 club are clouding the vision of some people on here.

A windup surely.  Track records of both clubs don't compare.

Yip...

All very quiet this week on the performance of the county team, some people have went as far to say it was one of the worst they've witnessed from an Antrim team, even through the days of Frank Dawson. Will we beat Offaly? Not the worst draw but I'm sure they are thinking the same of us.

Sometimes, you just cant defend the indefensible.  The farce of the managers appointment and the disillusionment of the players (highlighted by lack of buy in) has been borne out by that abject display.  But the manager was cute enough on appointment to say 'a five year plan' (instead of the usual 3).

We're on the wrong road again, regardless of what happens against offaly

Weve not enough forwards. You can do all the hill sprints in the world etc but without forwards its useless

I mean corner or full forward game winners. Weve Ryan Murray who is class and thats it it seems.

Weve no one breaking the gain line (shit term i know) at half forward. Miss Tomas McCann massively. Miss his bro. Miss Niblock. Miss Bam Neeson. Miss the class of Paddy Cunningham, even Ciaran Close who is still doing it weekly. We are talkin about the best club players, albeit not kids but still thee best and classiest players in our county. Lack of leadership and rudderless

No one playin with a smile on their face. Would give us all a lift in ourselves as our county if we could get a few wins.. look at.Carlow and remember how good 09 etc was.

Lads there are doin their best im sure but we are just lacking a bit of belief, off the cuff  play and biting desire from forwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2018, 11:24:33 PM
So going forward you want 30 plus year olds? Hmm 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 30, 2018, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2018, 11:24:33 PM
So going forward you want 30 plus year olds? Hmm 🤔

Theyre our best forwards NOW. We dont have better right now.

Like you're a ref in the county...you see the players and forwards....are you telling me they arent amoung the best we have?

I know a few of those are injured/unwell/families etc but if i was manager id try to get them on board and manage them.
Andy Moran is 35 and POTY last year. Kieran donaghy same age was unreal last year and a cert for at least an allstar until Kerry beaten inthe semi final. Age is a number. Players often get better, cuter with age

Even if we had Tomas or Bam from that list at least we'd have 1 more inside forward to assist Murray and trouble a team.

Like having a not 100percent fit  Michael Magill at FF on Sat there with all his experience as a full forward wouldve been a massive improvement than playing Niall McKeever out of position there. He couldve ran 10 yards to get a ball and knew how to lay a ball off at the right time  or have the strenght to hold a ball and win a free etc. We had no focal point and look rudderless

Anyone cant see that is not a football man or even a sportsman

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2018, 11:56:32 PM
And they aren't playing because?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 31, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2018, 11:56:32 PM
And they aren't playing because?

Who knows....jobs/family/illness/injury/soccer/maybe not taken with mgt choice...i dont know

I dont know if management went to each individual, went to their houses, told them it wouldnt all be about stats about how far they ran....maybe told them theyd trust and manage them like Paul McGrath was the year he won Premier League player of the year. I dont know if thats what happened or not. Thats what i wouldve done ....whilst trying to bring through some youth too as obvs those boys wont last forever..but they are the best now. Ppl wanted to see a win or at least an effort at a win on Sat, not in 4 yrs time

Like we look like we play with fear and with a sorry frown on our faces. We need a bit of ingenuity and mischievousness in our play.

Im a supporter. Hate when ppl say "aww youre from Antrim what would you know about football "....as if we dont have 2 arms and legs too. Im just trying to find or brainstorm solutions

We need to get our house in order, have a bit of pride in ourselves and stop accepting nothingness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 07:53:42 AM
So what if they were asked and just said no, for the reasons you gave or like Spike believe that they (whoever they are) never played cause they didn't like the set up?

Now call me old fashion but it's meant to be a honour to play for your county, the manager is selected and as a player you get on with it... do these players decide, ah nah don't like him I'm going to not bother? This may not be the case here as I said, the players you are talking about have a lot of miles on the clock, or if it is the case that they didn't like the set up, then that says a lot about the person.

Said on the Antrim hurling site that we need all our best players to achieve something, it's the same there, some players don't bother or can't commit.. you go with The committed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 08:37:21 AM
For the small amount of Antrim club football I see you could add Conor Small to that list Gold
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
i know conor small didn't want to join up with this years panel because he didn't enjoy it last year - cant blame the lad he's only a cub
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 31, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 07:53:42 AM
So what if they were asked and just said no, for the reasons you gave or like Spike believe that they (whoever they are) never played cause they didn't like the set up?

Now call me old fashion but it's meant to be a honour to play for your county, the manager is selected and as a player you get on with it... do these players decide, ah nah don't like him I'm going to not bother? This may not be the case here as I said, the players you are talking about have a lot of miles on the clock, or if it is the case that they didn't like the set up, then that says a lot about the person.

Said on the Antrim hurling site that we need all our best players to achieve something, it's the same there, some players don't bother or can't commit.. you go with The committed

Yes, its meant to be an honour MR2, but now it isn't.  And its establishment men like you, backing up the establishment system that perpetuates the problem. You make it sound like they just didn't fancy it, preferring to sit at home, playing xbox.   These are driven men that put in serious personal effort and commitment only to get it threw back in their faces year after year.  Currently they are away doing their own training, furthering their lives/families/careers without the perceived waste of time of the Antrim county football setup.

Perhaps your time would be better spent seeing what the establishment could do to entice these men back. They are still the best players in the county, a fact only highlighted by last weekends debacle.

You've been very quiet on last weekends performance and management team? Did the hierarchy tell you it had all went to plan?? Theres a good boy


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 31, 2018, 11:15:44 AM
Who knows....jobs/family/illness/injury/soccer/maybe not taken with mgt choice...i dont know

I dont know if management went to each individual, went to their houses, told them it wouldnt all be about stats about how far they ran....maybe told them theyd trust and manage them like Paul McGrath was the year he won Premier League player of the year. I dont know if thats what happened or not. Thats what i wouldve done ....whilst trying to bring through some youth too as obvs those boys wont last forever..but they are the best now. Ppl wanted to see a win or at least an effort at a win on Sat, not in 4 yrs time

Like we look like we play with fear and with a sorry frown on our faces. We need a bit of ingenuity and mischievousness in our play.

We need to get our house in order, have a bit of pride in ourselves and stop accepting nothingness
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Correct. Lots to agree on from this post.  The face of Antrim Football needs to change. Realise it wont happen immediately but the start has to happen.  Repeating the same mistakes every year simply doesn't work. Div 4 and a farcical game plan against down doesn't cut the mustard.   Pride lacking as well as mental toughness. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: Spike on May 31, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 07:53:42 AM
So what if they were asked and just said no, for the reasons you gave or like Spike believe that they (whoever they are) never played cause they didn't like the set up?

Now call me old fashion but it's meant to be a honour to play for your county, the manager is selected and as a player you get on with it... do these players decide, ah nah don't like him I'm going to not bother? This may not be the case here as I said, the players you are talking about have a lot of miles on the clock, or if it is the case that they didn't like the set up, then that says a lot about the person.

Said on the Antrim hurling site that we need all our best players to achieve something, it's the same there, some players don't bother or can't commit.. you go with The committed

Yes, its meant to be an honour MR2, but now it isn't.  And its establishment men like you, backing up the establishment system that perpetuates the problem. You make it sound like they just didn't fancy it, preferring to sit at home, playing xbox.   These are driven men that put in serious personal effort and commitment only to get it threw back in their faces year after year.  Currently they are away doing their own training, furthering their lives/families/careers without the perceived waste of time of the Antrim county football setup.

Perhaps your time would be better spent seeing what the establishment could do to entice these men back. They are still the best players in the county, a fact only highlighted by last weekends debacle.

You've been very quiet on last weekends performance and management team? Did the hierarchy tell you it had all went to plan?? Theres a good boy

Now if you has any sense or knew me at all, i'm far from being 'the yes sir, no sir, two bags full sir' type of guy

The lads didnt committ, they were asked, there was trials, the season starts every year and they never bothered becuse of the reasons you stated.. the best players Antrim have, they are the ones that made themselves available for selection, now I don't know how smart you are but you can't drag people to a county set up, either they want to or they can't (or won't cause they threw their toys out of the pram).. Begging as a manager to get players to play for the county isnt a good look, now if you ever get the chance to manage team, begging players to play for it won't gain you any respect..

The knives have been out for a while, Antrim failing to win a first round match in Ulster (Unless you are in your 80's) away from home to a team a couple div's above us isnt the shock that you make it, yes we could have played better and tactically it didnt work out but do you actually think had the Dad's army team played we'd have won the match?

The top of the tree isnt the problem, its the roots that need sorting out, only then will the tree blossom!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
i know conor small didn't want to join up with this years panel because he didn't enjoy it last year - cant blame the lad he's only a cub

I believe he will be spending the summer stateside. However if I was the manager next year I'd be getting him onside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 11:40:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
i know conor small didn't want to join up with this years panel because he didn't enjoy it last year - cant blame the lad he's only a cub

I believe he will be spending the summer stateside. However if I was the manager next year I'd be getting him onside

What if he wants to go to the States next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
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Quote from: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
i know conor small didn't want to join up with this years panel because he didn't enjoy it last year - cant blame the lad he's only a cub

I believe he will be spending the summer stateside. However if I was the manager next year I'd be getting him onside

I don't believe that's the reason he didn't join up doesn't go away until the end of June, Antrim's season will be over by then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 31, 2018, 11:50:40 AM
Now if you has any sense or knew me at all, i'm far from being 'the yes sir, no sir, two bags full sir' type of guy

You keep saying this yet back up their methodology every year despite the guaranteed repeat of failure (???!)

The lads didnt committ, they were asked, there was trials, the season starts every year and they never bothered becuse of the reasons you stated.. the best players Antrim have are the ones that made themselves available for selection, now I don't know how smart you are but you can't drag people to a county set up, either they want to or they can't (or won't cause they threw their toys out of the pram).. Begging as a manager to get players to play for the county isnt a good look, now if you ever get the chance to manage team, begging players to play for it won't gain you any respect..

But they did call them, and begged them and detailed out what the set up would be and what would happen......and what would happen was exactly the same rubbish that was served up every year so the players said 'no thanks'.  Why would any intelligent person, who already went through repeated years of farce sign up to more??  Sometimes you just have to say 'no more' and this year was the one where players finally did it en masse. They didn't throw their toys out, or huff. They just politely and respectfully said 'No.'


[i]The knives have been out for a while,
I actually think they have been given an easy ride following the promotion failure.


Antrim failing to win a first round match in Ulster (Unless you are in your 80's) away from home to a team a couple div's above us isnt the shock that you make it, yes we could have played better and tactically it didnt work out but do you actually think had the Dad's army team played we'd have won the match?


Dads army? men ranging from late teens, early twenties to early thirties?? Are they good enough? yes.  are they fit enough? yes.  Who is going to guide the younger players?? you need the old hands on the teams and in the squads to help develop the younger ones.

I know he's your clubman and you feel the need to defend him (commendable) but just admit the tactics were a joke (as in so bad other gaa men are poking fun at antrim).   Was it a shock to get beat by down? of course not. The manner & size of the defeat? yes.  Devalues the Ulster championship when such ties are played out.  Would we have won? Debateable, but we COULD have given ourselves a possibility have winning. For starters we would have got out of Div 4 this year so confidence would have been higher. Better quality players, using their superior skills and attributes would certainly have made a system/tactic/game management more malleable and achievable.


The top of the tree isnt the problem, its the roots that need sorting out, only then will the tree blossom!! [/i]

Any gardener will tell you that if the roots are damaged, the tree hasn't long to follow. Any builder will tell you that if the foundations are fecked, then the house is fecked.  Antrim needs a major refurbishment.  A serious outreach, educational and promotional programme needs to be enacted. Theres no pride in Antrim football any more and its the responsibility of those at the top to get the pride back.  They are accountable, elected stakeholders. The buck stops with them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
They didnt want to play  because as you stated from the start, he wasn't their target... That's not Lenny's fault, he applied (unlike yourself) and is prepared to put in the hard yards (unlike yourself) and take the flack (unlike yourself, hidding behind a screen)

Playing with the deck he has is down to the players not wanting to give it a go, and some did huff, they decided that they wanted someone else and voted with their feet, the good Antrim men that they are..

Whether he is a clubman or not, I wouldnt have been lambasting any manager who lost to Down, Armagh had a All Ireland winning captain looking after them with tons of experience of managing other teams plus a huge amount of talent at his disposal and they failed miserably to Fermanagh, who have limited clubs to pick from...

As for the dads army, you mentioned Magil and McCann, both in their 30's, great players that they are, but maybe not because they thought it was the same old same old, they probably are just tired, training three nights a week and trying to play games for the club also... its a huge ask..

Should Lenny walk away and Jim Gavin were to pick up the post, would that make Antrim a better team? the same failings will appear..

Its been mentioned numerous times.. its got to start with schools, clubs and then the set up from Antrim, tracking development and look at results and ensuring targets are set and met.... Money is the thing, but in your head (for some reason) you think that all of what you have said comes cheap, well it's not that simple.. I know nothing about the Antrim set up really, other than the Referee committee or CCC I have limited knowledge of the workings of my club let alone the effort required to run a county set up, in a dual county to boot..

Maybe you could maybe put a plan in place that will cover that, the county would certainly jump at that as they obviously sit around all day on their hands ::)

Oh no wait, its far better to snipe/bully/ridicule on the internet  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 12:43:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 11:40:35 AM
Quote from: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
i know conor small didn't want to join up with this years panel because he didn't enjoy it last year - cant blame the lad he's only a cub

I believe he will be spending the summer stateside. However if I was the manager next year I'd be getting him onside

What if he wants to go to the States next year?

When young players go to the states for the summer it usually goes one of two ways.

'it's something I always wanted to try and it was the best summer of my life, glad I done it' Is the usual outcome with it being seen as 'ticked off the bucket list' and head down, committed to football again the next summer.

The very odd player will make a habit of going out 2 or three summers, but not many do.

I would try get him involved again early on next winter and try get him into the 1st mindset where its done but time to focus on club/county again. however you can hold a player back so if he wants to go next year again there's not much you can do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
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Quote from: toby47 on May 31, 2018, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 31, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
i know conor small didn't want to join up with this years panel because he didn't enjoy it last year - cant blame the lad he's only a cub

I believe he will be spending the summer stateside. However if I was the manager next year I'd be getting him onside

I don't believe that's the reason he didn't join up doesn't go away until the end of June, Antrim's season will be over by then.

He leaves next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 31, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
They didnt want to play  because as you stated from the start, he wasn't their target... That's not Lenny's fault, he applied (unlike yourself) and is prepared to put in the hard yards (unlike yourself) and take the flack (unlike yourself, hidding behind a screen)

Says the man with the MR2 moniker. Who said they didn't want to play? They thought it was a waste of time....which it has indeed been shown to be the case and vindicated their perceptions. Lenny has to shoulder blame here too - he is the man with the wretched plan. If I showed up at an on the fence player's door with a half assed plan for the year, promising him more of the same,  trying to persuade him to join up, id fully expect him to say 'no thanks'.

I didn't apply because I'm not from West Belfast so I would have been automatically ruled out of the job.  I wouldn't have been the cheapest either which also rules me out of the job.  I would have wanted a backroom team, would have had experts to call on, would have wanted to take training outside Belfast, into suitable facilities and played our matches outside of Corrigan park which, yet again, would have ruled me out of the job.


Playing with the deck he has is down to the players not wanting to give it a go, and some did huff, they decided that they wanted someone else and voted with their feet, the good Antrim men that they are..

Yes, they are good Antrim men, who left their blood and sweat on many football pitches around Ireland for Antrim.  They just aren't stupid Antrim Men.

Whether he is a clubman or not, I wouldnt have been lambasting any manager who lost to Down, Armagh had a All Ireland winning captain looking after them with tons of experience of managing other teams plus a huge amount of talent at his disposal and they failed miserably to Fermanagh, who have limited clubs to pick from...

You don't see the irony of mentioning Fermanagh, a team with limited clubs and yet outperforms Antrim year after year???   No one is lambasting Lenny for getting beat by Down. He is being lambasted for his farcical game plan. And its his own fault anyway, for if he had prepared his set up correctly, the stay away stars would have turned up so my pity for him is limited. But sure you'll always defend him anyway.

As for the dads army, you mentioned Magil and McCann, both in their 30's, great players that they are, but maybe not because they thought it was the same old same old, they probably are just tired, training three nights a week and trying to play games for the club also... its a huge ask..

I didn't mention Magill and McCann?? Try reading the posts. 

Should Lenny walk away and Jim Gavin were to pick up the post, would that make Antrim a better team? the same failings will appear..

If Jim Gavin turned up tomorrow then yes, Antrim would be a better team. Better prepared, better tactics and set up for the future. Lenny is Groundhog Day. Substitute the name Lenny for Frank/Fitzy/Gearoid/Micky/Brian etc etc etc.  Its the same old same old.

Its been mentioned numerous times.. its got to start with schools, clubs and then the set up from Antrim, tracking development and look at results and ensuring targets are set and met.... Money is the thing, but in your head (for some reason) you think that all of what you have said comes cheap, well it's not that simple.. I know nothing about the Antrim set up really, other than the Referee committee or CCC I have limited knowledge of the workings of my club let alone the effort required to run a county set up, in a dual county to boot..

All good stuff, but as with everything in Antrim, you would be quicker to put your written suggestions into the bin at your own house rather than posting it to Antrim Board and letting them put it into their own bin. It takes effort, alongside money, and strategic planning. Antrim lack all three.   Antrim board take the easy way out...every.......single.........time.   Antrim are in such a dire place they need another shadow committee to hold them to account.

Maybe you could maybe put a plan in place that will cover that, the county would certainly jump at that as they obviously sit around all day on their hands ::)

Yes, they obviously do sit around, perhaps waiting on the all Ireland tickets and a good free feed at the ulster final. Football and Hurling progress appears to be at the bottom of their to do lists.

Oh no wait, its far better to snipe/bully/ridicule on the internet  ;)

If you prefer I could appear as a complete Simpleton and say the county board, establishment and manager are doing a good job, Lenny is blameless, Lenny is fighting the good fight and blindly defend everything they do despite glaring evidence to the contrary.

Regardless, Antrim in a poor state. Money or no.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 01:20:39 PM
So just avoid the question of how you think they will generate this Antrim county to a standard you'd be happy with? And please put in where the funds will allocated and used.. good man, no rush
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 31, 2018, 01:42:02 PM
Aww but you didnt answer any of my questions? Fairs fair.

Ive plenty of time to write such a thesis, we'll still be discussing this in 10 years time as nothing at all will have changed. You can even refer to your own posts from last year, and the year before that....and so on etc etc

Make sure the boys give you a pat on the head and a treat now for sticking up for lenny. Good boy. You may even get a county final.out of it    ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 31, 2018, 01:42:02 PM
Aww but you didnt answer any of my questions? Fairs fair.

Ive plenty of time to write such a thesis, we'll still be discussing this in 10 years time as nothing at all will have changed. You can even refer to your own posts from last year, and the year before that....and so on etc etc

Make sure the boys give you a pat on the head and a treat now for sticking up for lenny. Good boy. You may even get a county final.out of it    ;)

Yeah there ya go, just what i thought, a barfly, an ex disgruntled z team player with an axe to grind, comes into the AGM at the end when all the positions are filled then complains! credit to your club no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 31, 2018, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 31, 2018, 01:42:02 PM
Aww but you didnt answer any of my questions? Fairs fair.

Ive plenty of time to write such a thesis, we'll still be discussing this in 10 years time as nothing at all will have changed. You can even refer to your own posts from last year, and the year before that....and so on etc etc

Make sure the boys give you a pat on the head and a treat now for sticking up for lenny. Good boy. You may even get a county final.out of it    ;)

Yeah there ya go, just what i thought, a barfly, an ex disgruntled z team player with an axe to grind, comes into the AGM at the end when all the positions are filled then complains! credit to your club no doubt

Ah, the last bastion of the vanquished ........ personal insults.

One of those is true .....but I'm not telling you which one!

I'll lighten the mood with an old rehashed joke MR2 seeing as you're in bad form:


Lenny Harbinson walks into a bank on the Andersonstown Road. He walks up to the teller and says: "I'd like to withdraw £5,000 please".

The teller replies "Certainly sir! All I need is to see some identification." Lenny, taken aback, replies "This is really embarrassing. But I don't have any I.D. on me. But I'm Lenny Harbinson. You can ask anybody around here. They will tell you who I am." The teller replies sternly "I know who you are sir, I'm a St Galls man too. But I still need some sort of proof of identification. My bosses will ask for it. I'm sorry."

Bemused, Lenny asks "is there really nothing you can do?" The teller says "Well. There is one thing. A number of years ago we had this same situation with CJ McGourty. CJ came in without any form of I.D. to prove who he was. So he said he would prove it by doing something an impostor couldn't possibly do. He set a football down in the street outside. He then proceeded to kick it as hard as he possibly could. He kicked the ball so far, so accurately, into the bin he had pointed at, that we knew it had to be him." Lenny replies: "Interesting. Were there any other cases?"

The teller smiles and replies: "Yes actually. Not two months ago we had Ryan Murray in. Same problem again. So Ryan proceeds to hand toe with both feet, sprints so quickly around the room he was a blur, goes on to do a number of tricks, and we knew it absolutely had to be him.

"So Sir, is there anything you could do to prove to us who you are?" the teller asks.

Lenny stops to think for a minute. He shakes his head and replies "I can't think of anything at all. I'm not sure if there's a solution here. Honestly, I'm drawing a blank..."

The teller asks "Will that be large or small notes sir?"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 02:40:45 PM
I believe you were giving the sly digs first with your 'Theres a good boy' comment.. but sure your personal insults on a discussion board about Antrim managers are ok  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 31, 2018, 03:17:38 PM
Can't wait until the county talk is over and we can get back on track with the country v city slagging.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 31, 2018, 03:17:38 PM
Can't wait until the county talk is over and we can get back on track with the country v city slagging.

Piss aff! Fecking Armagh ones on now  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 31, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 31, 2018, 03:17:38 PM
Can't wait until the county talk is over and we can get back on track with the country v city slagging.

Piss aff! Fecking Armagh ones on now  :D

We can pick Down as well ya know. Good win for us on Saturday night against Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 01, 2018, 06:12:46 AM
Refreshing Spike.... Chapeau!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 02, 2018, 08:25:18 PM
What's the latest position with casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 02, 2018, 09:16:40 PM
Work starts next week and due to open in 2021. Its all good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2018, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 02, 2018, 09:16:40 PM
Work starts next week and due to open in 2021. Its all good.

is this official?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2018, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
I think he is joking...
He is indeed being a joker......have it on good authority that the 'new stadium' will now proceed at Toome...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 03, 2018, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
I think he is joking...

Yes, joking unfortunately. The future of Casement is in abeyance pending the outcome of appeal against incinerator judgement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on June 04, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 03, 2018, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
I think he is joking...

Yes, joking unfortunately. The future of Casement is in abeyance pending the outcome of appeal against incinerator judgement.

Antrim will be playing in the new Davitts Stadium for the next few years.   ;)

ps. MR2 and Spike, if you guys are going to keep going at each other, get your own thread...  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on June 04, 2018, 03:28:02 PM
Whens the announcement for the Belfast games development officer? Will it be an Antrim man or an outsider?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 04, 2018, 03:51:31 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 04, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 03, 2018, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
I think he is joking...

Yes, joking unfortunately. The future of Casement is in abeyance pending the outcome of appeal against incinerator judgement.

Antrim will be playing in the new Davitts Stadium for the next few years.   ;)

ps. MR2 and Spike, if you guys are going to keep going at each other, get your own thread...  8)

MR2 and Spike has been the most exciting thing about Antrim Football in ages. Let them at it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 04, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2018, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
I think he is joking...
He is indeed being a joker......have it on good authority that the 'new stadium' will now proceed at Toome...

I see the demolition work has already started on new clubrooms CB. Any room in there for a pitchside stand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 05, 2018, 07:51:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 04, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2018, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 01:31:30 PM
I think he is joking...
He is indeed being a joker......have it on good authority that the 'new stadium' will now proceed at Toome...

I see the demolition work has already started on new clubrooms CB. Any room in there for a pitchside stand?
Think stand is planned for the other side....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 06, 2018, 11:48:21 AM
looking ahead to Saturday whats the thoughts ? very winnable game going to head down I hear there has been a few young lads called up , including Patrick Finnegan from st brigids who was unable to make the u20 team ? strange one that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 06, 2018, 12:23:36 PM
Hadn't heard that. Paddy Finnegan was away all year with studies and has just returned within the last month or so. Came on during the U20 match. Would be a good addition to the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 06, 2018, 03:59:28 PM
a good player yes but will he make an impact on Saturday ? no. We need players to make an instant impact at this stage to try and salvage our season and enjoy a run in the qualifiers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 06, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
Well unless Diarmuid Connolly has re-aLigned himself as a Saffron we probably have fairly limited options. The lads who are there have done the work, will hopefully amend the system accordingly and give it a lash. There's no point going down tamely in a narrow, tight, dour match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 08, 2018, 01:34:03 PM
Antrim Team v. Offaly

1.  Andrew Hasson (Rasharkin)

2.  Peter Healy (St Enda's)
3.  Patrick Gallagher (Glenavy)
4.  Niall Delargy (Portglenone)

5.  Kevin O Boyle (Cargin)
6.  Mark Sweeney (St Jude's, Dublin)
7.  James Laverty (Cargin)

8.  Patrick McAleer (Ballymena)
9.  Niall McKeever (Portglenone)

10.  Patrick McBride (St John's)
11.  Conor Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
12.  Ruairi McCann (Creggan)

13.  Ryan Murray (Lamh Dhearg)
14.  Matthew Fitzpatrick (St John's)
15.  Colum Duffin (Moneyglass)

Subs:

16.  Declan Lynch (Lamh Dhearg)
17.  Stephen Beatty (O'Donovan Rossa)
18.  Pat Branagan (Aghagallon)
19.  Odhran Eastwood (St Enda's)
20.  Patrick Finnegan  (St Brigid's)
21.  Kristian Healy (St Enda's)
22.  Connell Lemon (Ballymena)
23.  Michael McCarry (Ballymena)
24.  Eoin Nagle (St Enda's)
25.  James Smith (St Brigid's)
26.  Eunan Walsh (Aghagallon)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 09, 2018, 09:19:04 PM
Out of the Championship again at the first possible opportunity.  No home.  Division Four.  Meanwhile CARLOW are having fun.  WATERFORD are having fun.  FERMANAGH are having fun.  Someone remind me how much longer we have to wait before the Saffron Vision can be questioned?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 09, 2018, 09:31:30 PM
Go ahead Sportacus. Ask away. Now is the time to blame our Co Board on Carlow and Waterford winning matches and on SF / DUP not doing a deal to get into Government and make a planning decision on Casement. That  Saffron Vision shower. Bringing millions of euro into the development of our games, putting the Gaelfast project in place. Who do they think they are?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 09, 2018, 09:52:07 PM
Brendan I said 'question', not 'blame' - two very different things.  Saffron Vision are clearly working hard to bring finance in which will make things happen.  For that hard work we should all be grateful.  But is it not fair to question what seems to effectively be zero progress on the pitch, and the buck stops with the leadership (normally).  We can't just say oh well that's it for another year.     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 09, 2018, 09:54:53 PM
So what are your questions then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 09, 2018, 10:22:25 PM
Football has continued to decline so the question is simple, have football decisions thus far been a failure, or part of a longer term something? 
If there's a turning point up ahead then great, but it's fair to question what's been going on considering we are basically bottom of the pile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 09, 2018, 11:18:00 PM
Ok, fair enough. What do you think is the answer to that question? I wasn't at today's match so can't really comment in detail. But take say the drawn league game v Wicklow which was really the damaging game in terms of promotion. Should a member of the county board come on to take the last, late free to win the game? Who, the treasurer, or vice Chairman? Or in the championship game v Down...should the Chairman have pressed up on the Down kickouts, or maybe the PRO? 

Sorry man, but sniping from the sidelines is just poor form. We are all hurting today, course we are. But throwing blame on the night of two defeats is no good to anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2018, 07:18:21 AM
Its a simple scenario  " The more things change, the more they stay the same" the SV concept raising funds has been very successful and to be commended however and not to labour the point but below the initial senior positions its the same people for years and years just with different titles, couldn't do it then cant do it now... They need to purge the whole set up ... and before the usual rhetoric starts about volunteer's etc most of them have been doing this for so long god help them they've nothing else at this stage.... Fermanagh got it right in less than 12 months right people in the right place...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 10, 2018, 02:59:09 PM
Brendan, your analogies about the County Board are ridiculous. If you are going to spend your time slaying anyone who 'questions' (not 'blamed') how we've got to this low ebb then there won't be many lessons learned. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 10, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
Brendan, I think you are missing the point of discussion boards i.e. to facilitate debate
We all know the guys on the county board and are working extremely hard to turn Antrim around and its also obvious that no improvements are yet visible on the pitch

IMO we need the following

- Program for Belfast primary schools - achieved
- Program for Belfast secondary schools
- Support program for clubs coaching
- Financial support for clubs who want do develop their facilities
- Casement open

With only one of these in place to start we have many more years in the doldrums I fear..........

All opinions welcome to be heard on this !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 08:53:56 AM
The problem is that to many posters on this board have their own agenda to promote and their own mates to protect.

Lenny may or may not get it right in the second year, I don't know, what I do know is that if you doing what you always did, you'll get the same results as you always have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2018, 09:24:29 AM
Poor enough end to the season for Antrim in both codes and thats becoming the norm now.... There is a mindset I believe that Antrim players have settled for less than they deserve... Pride in the jersey has been missing, yes Baker brought us to an Ulster final and we scared Kerry one day, but thats been one period in over 40 odd years..

Some sort of think tank with clubs/players/managers and concerned Antrim Gaels needs to be done, I'm sure it has been done in the past but a frank and open debate on the best foot forward.. and none of it should be throwing dirt and people, constructive conversations, because at the minute there is, I suppose always has been a cancerous element within Antrim which has dragged us down even further (if thats possible)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 11:16:14 AM
what was the issue with mckeever on Saturday ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 12:18:52 PM
I think one thing we can all agree on is that we are totally scunnered with the lack of success over the last few years. Now that can be laid at the door of the old guard and they can be blamed, Saffron Vision maybe changed it.

Telling a lad on the bus down he isn't starting and then putting him on and taking him off isn't really decent man management is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2018, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 12:18:52 PM
I think one thing we can all agree on is that we are totally scunnered with the lack of success over the last few years. Now that can be laid at the door of the old guard and they can be blamed, Saffron Vision maybe changed it.

Telling a lad on the bus down he isn't starting and then putting him on and taking him off isn't really decent man management is it?

What was the circumstances to that? Its not ideal, I'd a similar problem in a Club hurling semi final once..possibly slightly different but the manager is only doing his best for the team, and none of it is personal with the players..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 11, 2018, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 12:18:52 PM
I think one thing we can all agree on is that we are totally scunnered with the lack of success over the last few years. Now that can be laid at the door of the old guard and they can be blamed, Saffron Vision maybe changed it.

Telling a lad on the bus down he isn't starting and then putting him on and taking him off isn't really decent man management is it?

What's wrong with it, he was informed he wasn't starting. He came on and the manager thought he wasn't performing or he was injured and he was replaced. Seriously wtf is wrong with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 11, 2018, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 12:18:52 PM
I think one thing we can all agree on is that we are totally scunnered with the lack of success over the last few years. Now that can be laid at the door of the old guard and they can be blamed, Saffron Vision maybe changed it.

Telling a lad on the bus down he isn't starting and then putting him on and taking him off isn't really decent man management is it?

What's wrong with it, he was informed he wasn't starting. He came on and the manager thought he wasn't performing or he was injured and he was replaced. Seriously wtf is wrong with it

I'm not saying its right or wrong, I just don't think that telling a lad on the bus on the way to the game that he isn't playing is decent man management. Surely Lenny knew before the journey he wasn't playing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(

Some of these players are the only ones who will make themselves available. Their maybe not the best but they are trying their best and that is all you can ask if they are willing to commit. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 11, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 10, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
Brendan, I think you are missing the point of discussion boards i.e. to facilitate debate
We all know the guys on the county board and are working extremely hard to turn Antrim around and its also obvious that no improvements are yet visible on the pitch

IMO we need the following

- Program for Belfast primary schools - achieved
- Program for Belfast secondary schools
- Support program for clubs coaching
- Financial support for clubs who want do develop their facilities
- Casement open

With only one of these in place to start we have many more years in the doldrums I fear..........

All opinions welcome to be heard on this !

Everyone quite raw - completely understandable. That was a bad season by anyones reckoning but what are the positives? what are we going to do about it?

SV have been doing good work (in regards to finances so leave them to it) but the main selling points - your intercounty teams - have been dismal. Theres no short term fix but the mental attitude of antrim footballers needs to be targeted - Steve Peters & his chimp anyone??

Actual physique, decision making and mental strength just not good enough currently.

SV, for all their work off the pitch, seem to be forgetting that its whats on the pitch that really matters.  We've been exceedingly poor during their tenure.  That was the worst Antrim county footballing squad I saw in my lifetime. And ive seen some really really bad ones.

What would it take to get casement open in its current guise?  Has anyone been around it lately? is it a matter of temporary changing facilities on the Andersonstown Road side and cordon off the main stand plus a relaying of grass or is it totally fecked?  We need a suitable base and a place for county football. Theres a degree of pride that comes from your own home. We need a proper base and that's not Corrigan in its current format.  This nomad nonsense is an embarrassment.

All football and hurling training needs to be in Dunsilly - this place needs to be established.  No ifs or buts. Sell the place if this isn't going to happen and direct the money elsewhere. We need a stand there and we need one other club to get a stand.

Lenny isn't my choice but he is others so either hes not up to the job and needs more help,  or someone else is brought in with the correct team.  Regardless of money, in any walk of life, you put the best man you have in to do the job.  So, in relation to football matters, have SV got the right setup there - I don't believe so.

More primary school time needs to be linked with the clubs, whether extended lunchtimes or whatever. Sounds simple but usually depends on the attitude of the head teacher.

Target St Louis, one north Belfast, one west Belfast and one south Belfast secondary/grammar school for specialist input & coaching. Academies linked to Antrim.

Perhaps the biggest problem of all is lack of pride, or resignation that failure is just around the corner.   - Irish version of Steve Peters anywhere??

Not a rant - trying to be constructive.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2018, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 11, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 10, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
Brendan, I think you are missing the point of discussion boards i.e. to facilitate debate
We all know the guys on the county board and are working extremely hard to turn Antrim around and its also obvious that no improvements are yet visible on the pitch

IMO we need the following

- Program for Belfast primary schools - achieved
- Program for Belfast secondary schools
- Support program for clubs coaching
- Financial support for clubs who want do develop their facilities
- Casement open

With only one of these in place to start we have many more years in the doldrums I fear..........

All opinions welcome to be heard on this !

Everyone quite raw - completely understandable. That was a bad season by anyones reckoning but what are the positives? what are we going to do about it?

SV have been doing good work (in regards to finances so leave them to it) but the main selling points - your intercounty teams - have been dismal. Theres no short term fix but the mental attitude of antrim footballers needs to be targeted - Steve Peters & his chimp anyone??

Actual physique, decision making and mental strength just not good enough currently.

SV, for all their work off the pitch, seem to be forgetting that its whats on the pitch that really matters.  We've been exceedingly poor during their tenure.  That was the worst Antrim county footballing squad I saw in my lifetime. And ive seen some really really bad ones.

What would it take to get casement open in its current guise?  Has anyone been around it lately? is it a matter of temporary changing facilities on the Andersonstown Road side and cordon off the main stand plus a relaying of grass or is it totally fecked?  We need a suitable base and a place for county football. Theres a degree of pride that comes from your own home. We need a proper base and that's not Corrigan in its current format.  This nomad nonsense is an embarrassment.

All football and hurling training needs to be in Dunsilly - this place needs to be established.  No ifs or buts. Sell the place if this isn't going to happen and direct the money elsewhere. We need a stand there and we need one other club to get a stand.

Lenny isn't my choice but he is others so either hes not up to the job and needs more help,  or someone else is brought in with the correct team.  Regardless of money, in any walk of life, you put the best man you have in to do the job.  So, in relation to football matters, have SV got the right setup there - I don't believe so.

More primary school time needs to be linked with the clubs, whether extended lunchtimes or whatever. Sounds simple but usually depends on the attitude of the head teacher.

Target St Louis, one north Belfast, one west Belfast and one south Belfast secondary/grammar school for specialist input & coaching. Academies linked to Antrim.

Perhaps the biggest problem of all is lack of pride, or resignation that failure is just around the corner.   - Irish version of Steve Peters anywhere??

Not a rant - trying to be constructive.

Hard to disagree with any of that tbh. Lack of pride is the thing that really annoys me!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 12, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(

Some of these players are the only ones who will make themselves available. Their maybe not the best but they are trying their best and that is all you can ask if they are willing to commit.

I understand that but the amount  of top players we don't have representing our county is a disgrace no other county has this situation. Crozier McCann brothers Dermot McAleese, John Mcnabb - who best keeper in the county by a mile, Niall oneill worth his place, Martin Johnston ,  Eoin McKeown , Donal Nugent if he got into shape I could go on I know there are different reasons and it is unrealistic that every player will commit every year but we need these type of players in the saffron jersey - Phone calls need to be made accommodating these players situations or else sadly we will be in the basement for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2018, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 12, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(

Some of these players are the only ones who will make themselves available. Their maybe not the best but they are trying their best and that is all you can ask if they are willing to commit.

I understand that but the amount  of top players we don't have representing our county is a disgrace no other county has this situation. Crozier McCann brothers Dermot McAleese, John Mcnabb - who best keeper in the county by a mile, Niall oneill worth his place, Martin Johnston ,  Eoin McKeown , Donal Nugent if he got into shape I could go on I know there are different reasons and it is unrealistic that every player will commit every year but we need these type of players in the saffron jersey - Phone calls need to be made accommodating these players situations or else sadly we will be in the basement for the foreseeable future.


Meaning? Let these players who couldnt commit to come and go as they please? not have a panel as such and pick it on availablity and the hearsay of people watching games and judging the merits of this footballer and that? Or maybe a Gaaboard selected team, though who would we blame if that team was shown its arse..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 12, 2018, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 12, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(

Some of these players are the only ones who will make themselves available. Their maybe not the best but they are trying their best and that is all you can ask if they are willing to commit.

I understand that but the amount  of top players we don't have representing our county is a disgrace no other county has this situation. Crozier McCann brothers Dermot McAleese, John Mcnabb - who best keeper in the county by a mile, Niall oneill worth his place, Martin Johnston ,  Eoin McKeown , Donal Nugent if he got into shape I could go on I know there are different reasons and it is unrealistic that every player will commit every year but we need these type of players in the saffron jersey - Phone calls need to be made accommodating these players situations or else sadly we will be in the basement for the foreseeable future.
Nonsense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 12, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 12, 2018, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 12, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(

Some of these players are the only ones who will make themselves available. Their maybe not the best but they are trying their best and that is all you can ask if they are willing to commit.

I understand that but the amount  of top players we don't have representing our county is a disgrace no other county has this situation. Crozier McCann brothers Dermot McAleese, John Mcnabb - who best keeper in the county by a mile, Niall oneill worth his place, Martin Johnston ,  Eoin McKeown , Donal Nugent if he got into shape I could go on I know there are different reasons and it is unrealistic that every player will commit every year but we need these type of players in the saffron jersey - Phone calls need to be made accommodating these players situations or else sadly we will be in the basement for the foreseeable future.
Nonsense
Will be interesting in division 4 next year !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 12, 2018, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 12, 2018, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 12, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
I don't understand his reasoning behind not playing him. His size and ball winning ability would get him onto most teams in ulster - he is also not a full forward the fella has good hands not feet. Lenny baffles me some of the players on the panel would struggle to make some of the top club teams on the county. Another disappointing year for the saffrons :(

Some of these players are the only ones who will make themselves available. Their maybe not the best but they are trying their best and that is all you can ask if they are willing to commit.

I understand that but the amount  of top players we don't have representing our county is a disgrace no other county has this situation. Crozier McCann brothers Dermot McAleese, John Mcnabb - who best keeper in the county by a mile, Niall oneill worth his place, Martin Johnston ,  Eoin McKeown , Donal Nugent if he got into shape I could go on I know there are different reasons and it is unrealistic that every player will commit every year but we need these type of players in the saffron jersey - Phone calls need to be made accommodating these players situations or else sadly we will be in the basement for the foreseeable future.
Nonsense

Pretty much every county outside the top 6 or so has this problem, in smaller counties you tend not to see too many players over 25 as work and life at home becomes more a priority and the fact the chances of winning something is slim makes opting out of the county panel a bit easier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2018, 01:05:12 PM
Pretty much every club has those issues to. I spoke to a Div3 manager here in Antrim at the weekend who said hes lost 5 lads to the States this season. He's working with a panel of 17 now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
I think this is problem wider than just Antrim in general.

Look at the likes of say Cork/ Armagh/ Meath - massive football counties with decent tradition and they have no chance utterly no chance of winning the competition that they are entering year on year. How long is it before players realise this too and start to weigh it up and say feck it this isn't worth it.

Thats before you even get the length of the likes of Antrim.

The whole system is flawed completely flawed. We have in every county more players sitting idle because of this system. The whole thing is eating itself and unless it is addressed and sharpish the eliteism will have killed the whole organisation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2018, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
I think this is problem wider than just Antrim in general.

Look at the likes of say Cork/ Armagh/ Meath - massive football counties with decent tradition and they have no chance utterly no chance of winning the competition that they are entering year on year. How long is it before players realise this too and start to weigh it up and say feck it this isn't worth it.

Thats before you even get the length of the likes of Antrim.

The whole system is flawed completely flawed. We have in every county more players sitting idle because of this system. The whole thing is eating itself and unless it is addressed and sharpish the eliteism will have killed the whole organisation.

Best post on this board in months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I've asked this question a number of times on the county website without response.  Can someone explain the thinking behind the scheduling of league games less than 24 hours after the Down game.  Perhaps some consideration of player welfare might help player commitment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 13, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
I think this is problem wider than just Antrim in general.

Look at the likes of say Cork/ Armagh/ Meath - massive football counties with decent tradition and they have no chance utterly no chance of winning the competition that they are entering year on year. How long is it before players realise this too and start to weigh it up and say feck it this isn't worth it.

Thats before you even get the length of the likes of Antrim.

The whole system is flawed completely flawed. We have in every county more players sitting idle because of this system. The whole thing is eating itself and unless it is addressed and sharpish the eliteism will have killed the whole organisation.

hear hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I've asked this question a number of times on the county website without response.  Can someone explain the thinking behind the scheduling of league games less than 24 hours after the Down game.  Perhaps some consideration of player welfare might help player commitment.

Considering the effort put in, I'd say they were fit enough for the club matches  ;)

2% of the players controlling the games, managers playing their star players could give the others ago and bring on the rest if needs be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on June 13, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I've asked this question a number of times on the county website without response.  Can someone explain the thinking behind the scheduling of league games less than 24 hours after the Down game.  Perhaps some consideration of player welfare might help player commitment.

Considering the effort put in, I'd say they were fit enough for the club matches  ;)

2% of the players controlling the games, managers playing their star players could give the others ago and bring on the rest if needs be?

There you have it, utter and complete lack of respect in one post. Sacrificed there lives from January for Antrim, regardless of how it went, and for the fixtures committee not to have even the slightest awareness of player welfare is beyond contempt. Give respect, get respect my arse.

And you never got my post at all, I'm taking the piss with my first line ya muppet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 13, 2018, 09:17:14 PM
I asked a member of the county fixtures about it last season and he told me that it was they could fit them in, taking both codes into account, availability of refs and other commitments. It's not an easy task I'd say, one that I wouldn't want to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on June 13, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I've asked this question a number of times on the county website without response.  Can someone explain the thinking behind the scheduling of league games less than 24 hours after the Down game.  Perhaps some consideration of player welfare might help player commitment.

Considering the effort put in, I'd say they were fit enough for the club matches  ;)

2% of the players controlling the games, managers playing their star players could give the others ago and bring on the rest if needs be?

There you have it, utter and complete lack of respect in one post. Sacrificed there lives from January for Antrim, regardless of how it went, and for the fixtures committee not to have even the slightest awareness of player welfare is beyond contempt. Give respect, get respect my arse.

And you never got my post at all, I'm taking the piss with my first line ya muppet

I'll assume that "bring on the rest if needs be" was also a piss take.  To have a situation where players and/or clubs are having to make a decision whether to play two games in 24 hours is pathetic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on June 13, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I've asked this question a number of times on the county website without response.  Can someone explain the thinking behind the scheduling of league games less than 24 hours after the Down game.  Perhaps some consideration of player welfare might help player commitment.

Considering the effort put in, I'd say they were fit enough for the club matches  ;)

2% of the players controlling the games, managers playing their star players could give the others ago and bring on the rest if needs be?

There you have it, utter and complete lack of respect in one post. Sacrificed there lives from January for Antrim, regardless of how it went, and for the fixtures committee not to have even the slightest awareness of player welfare is beyond contempt. Give respect, get respect my arse.

And you never got my post at all, I'm taking the piss with my first line ya muppet

I'll assume that "bring on the rest if needs be" was also a piss take.  To have a situation where players and/or clubs are having to make a decision whether to play two games in 24 hours is pathetic.

You point of view is pathetic! Player welfare? Players are far more conditioned nowadays than ever before, and more aware of their body's limits.. if a player plays when he's not fit then he's daft and so is his manager for playing him!

Clubs at senior level should be using the squad, if you think the leagues are top of the list then you're deluded.. championship is the be and end all.. plus why should 99% of club players sit around every year waiting on one/two players from their club so they get can actually play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on June 14, 2018, 09:11:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on June 13, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on June 13, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I've asked this question a number of times on the county website without response.  Can someone explain the thinking behind the scheduling of league games less than 24 hours after the Down game.  Perhaps some consideration of player welfare might help player commitment.

Considering the effort put in, I'd say they were fit enough for the club matches  ;)

2% of the players controlling the games, managers playing their star players could give the others ago and bring on the rest if needs be?

There you have it, utter and complete lack of respect in one post. Sacrificed there lives from January for Antrim, regardless of how it went, and for the fixtures committee not to have even the slightest awareness of player welfare is beyond contempt. Give respect, get respect my arse.

And you never got my post at all, I'm taking the piss with my first line ya muppet

I'll assume that "bring on the rest if needs be" was also a piss take.  To have a situation where players and/or clubs are having to make a decision whether to play two games in 24 hours is pathetic.

You point of view is pathetic! Player welfare? Players are far more conditioned nowadays than ever before, and more aware of their body's limits.. if a player plays when he's not fit then he's daft and so is his manager for playing him!

Clubs at senior level should be using the squad, if you think the leagues are top of the list then you're deluded.. championship is the be and end all.. plus why should 99% of club players sit around every year waiting on one/two players from their club so they get can actually play?

I wasn't suggesting that they should sit around. My point is about less than 24 hours. That round of games could have been played the following Wednesday without any impact on county preparations for the qualifier game.  Everyone gets their matches and county players get a reasonable break.
If you are suggesting that county players do not play certain league games, put the proposal properly to clubs instead of putting it in the hands of individual players. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2018, 11:04:17 AM
We did it before and probably never give it a chance, it was called starred games and non starred games, and with the way things are going with the games coming so quick it may not be the worst idea, bring in play offs so that all the teams will have their one or two county players back and that will  help come deciding the leagues..

but spare me player welfare, burn out.. With no strength and conditioning done back in the day an average dual player was out possibly (or more) 3 games a week, plus training! Squads need to use all of its players, county players can opt out if they feel tired, looking to the strength of your squad can help come the buisness end of things.

With the name AntrimRealist, AntrimNegative sounds better ;)  we cant keep holding up all the games to suit county players, there are set nights for all the teams, not just senior, all the underage hurling/football, ladies and reserve teams need to be playing. We've only so many pitches and time slots plus referees to fit that all in, its a lot harder I'd imagine as PJ has said earlier to organise than you think

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 14, 2018, 11:25:27 AM
It's a thankless task. Some clubs have only 1 pitch and take into consideration that clubs offer Football, Hurling, Camogie & Ladies Football from Un8 right up to senior, only so many hours in the day and days of the week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 14, 2018, 08:55:30 PM
Anyone know when the new Belfast Regeneration Manager starts? Would be good to hear his plan....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on June 14, 2018, 11:14:18 PM
October/November I think I read in the Irish News. Not sure if he's to work his notice with his current job.

You would've thought it would be better to start in August/September before the schools went back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
With the passion experience and job CV then I think we've certainly picked the best man for the job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
By all accounts he is a good get for the job which is heartening but October/November ! Hate to be a dark cloud on this but that's some notice period and we need urgency as we have yet another barren summer while we watch the all-ireland series unfold in front of our envious eyes :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on June 16, 2018, 10:31:08 PM
Aye because if he started tomorrow we will be sorted by next April
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on June 17, 2018, 02:03:52 AM
Urgent, why's that? We have slept through a slow decline, hit the wall and now its a crisis!! It is what it is. PD is as good a candidate there is and isn't one for going through the motions so my prediction is he will make a positive impact. My preference is suspend senior inter county until we put bricks and mortar under our aspirations, however long that takes. Lets make it about the club again. This isn't a fit for the current business model though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 17, 2018, 10:01:05 AM
To the posters above of course the new initiative will take years to affect the adult scene but we don't have 4/5 months to wait that's all.

I'm looking forward to seeing PD in operation and disappointed its not happening sooner. Initiatives like this can lift other Antrim Gaels struggling to see the fruits of their work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 17, 2018, 10:06:15 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 17, 2018, 02:03:52 AM
Urgent, why's that? We have slept through a slow decline, hit the wall and now its a crisis!! It is what it is. PD is as good a candidate there is and isn't one for going through the motions so my prediction is he will make a positive impact. My preference is suspend senior inter county until we put bricks and mortar under our aspirations, however long that takes. Lets make it about the club again. This isn't a fit for the current business model though.
Like your radical thinking about pulling out of county and diverting our resources to building a strong clubs. I'd say this is well worth a debate and if one county did it others would follow but no one will want to be the first to do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 10:07:31 AM
Why don't we have 4/5 months to wait? Would you have preferred a lesser candidate to take over today? And not get the right results further down the road?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 17, 2018, 10:12:50 AM
wouldn't have preferred a lesser candidate just can't understand the delay - can  you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 17, 2018, 10:12:50 AM
wouldn't have preferred a lesser candidate just can't understand the delay - can  you?

Gives his notice would be one reason I'm sure..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 17, 2018, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 17, 2018, 10:12:50 AM
wouldn't have preferred a lesser candidate just can't understand the delay - can  you?

Gives his notice would be one reason I'm sure..ok my passion for Antrim is getting the better of me !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Will Big Marty J feature for Kickams this year ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Will Big Marty J feature for Kickams this year ?
no idea but any thoughts on why Creggan don't seem to reproduce their league form in the championship? too much emphasis on league maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 21, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Will Big Marty J feature for Kickams this year ?
no idea but any thoughts on why Creggan don't seem to reproduce their league form in the championship? too much emphasis on league maybe?
That would be right could be cargin ever game in the league, but bottle it come the championship always seem to run out of gas- to many sessions from madden maybe £?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 21, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Will Big Marty J feature for Kickams this year ?
no idea but any thoughts on why Creggan don't seem to reproduce their league form in the championship? too much emphasis on league maybe?
That would be right could be cargin ever game in the league, but bottle it come the championship always seem to run out of gas- to many sessions from madden maybe £?
Id say the paid manager is a big part of it as he has  to justify his pay week in week out. Creggan must have paid some money on managers in the last 10 years. Putting it into their juveniles would be a better spend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 28, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 21, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Will Big Marty J feature for Kickams this year ?
no idea but any thoughts on why Creggan don't seem to reproduce their league form in the championship? too much emphasis on league maybe?
That would be right could be cargin ever game in the league, but bottle it come the championship always seem to run out of gas- to many sessions from madden maybe £?
Id say the paid manager is a big part of it as he has  to justify his pay week in week out. Creggan must have paid some money on managers in the last 10 years. Putting it into their juveniles would be a better spend

Have you been around Creggan recently?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 28, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
Creggan are an excellent club and do very well for the pick that they have. It must be one of the smallest catchment areas in Antrim? They surely have a money man behind them but they always seem to be running very successful fundraisers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 28, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 28, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
Creggan are an excellent club and do very well for the pick that they have. It must be one of the smallest catchment areas in Antrim? They surely have a money man behind them but they always seem to be running very successful fundraisers.

Good club, well run, lots of community items and fundraisers and the locals get behind them.  Expanded their catchment area 15 years ago with an ambitious youth recruitment policy much to the angst of Cargin and Tir Na Nog - made them buck up their ideas and they responded so Creggan are seeing the benefits coming through now though it may be only short term.  They've put a lot of money into the club, management, grounds etc for a good few years now. Great setup, whether that translates into a championship is another question. Thought that raft of underage  titles a few years ago would have reaped a championship by now and have made their way through a succession of well compensated managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 28, 2018, 08:02:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 28, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 21, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on June 20, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Will Big Marty J feature for Kickams this year ?
no idea but any thoughts on why Creggan don't seem to reproduce their league form in the championship? too much emphasis on league maybe?
That would be right could be cargin ever game in the league, but bottle it come the championship always seem to run out of gas- to many sessions from madden maybe £?
Id say the paid manager is a big part of it as he has  to justify his pay week in week out. Creggan must have paid some money on managers in the last 10 years. Putting it into their juveniles would be a better spend

Have you been around Creggan recently?
I have indeed and impressive set up just debating why with all their resources they don't look any closer to a senior championship. Maybe one of their own could motivate their senior team better after ten years of hired hands...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 29, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
Another hot evening and have a thought for our footballers who are to have another game......their third in a seven day period........player welfare indeed not >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Friday, Wed and another Friday?

Would you prefer them match and two hard training sessions and then another match? Some people are hard too please! Players prefer games to training? If you'd played a bit, you'd agree  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Friday, Wed and another Friday?

Would you prefer them match and two hard training sessions and then another match? Some people are hard too please! Players prefer games to training? If you'd played a bit, you'd agree  ;)
its certainly suiting st galls anyway! What's the difference with them this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Friday, Wed and another Friday?

Would you prefer them match and two hard training sessions and then another match? Some people are hard too please! Players prefer games to training? If you'd played a bit, you'd agree  ;)
its certainly suiting st galls anyway! What's the difference with them this year?

Leagues are playing, championships are for winning. Hopefully we don't become Cargin  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2018, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Friday, Wed and another Friday?

Would you prefer them match and two hard training sessions and then another match? Some people are hard too please! Players prefer games to training? If you'd played a bit, you'd agree  ;)
its certainly suiting st galls anyway! What's the difference with them this year?

Leagues are playing, championships are for winning. Hopefully we don't become Cargin  ;)
do u think the lamhs winning it last year was a one off? They seem to be having an average league campaign
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2018, 10:17:51 PM
Connor murray out for a long period too won't help. Seems very open this year. Sneaky feeling there may be a wee bit of life left in st galls yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 01, 2018, 05:08:47 PM
Looks like most posters on here think it's back to st galls and cargin this year yet St. John's and the lamhs beat them in the championship last year and were the finalists. Are these two teams not getting enough credit for last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2018, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 01, 2018, 05:08:47 PM
Looks like most posters on here think it's back to st galls and cargin this year yet St. John's and the lamhs beat them in the championship last year and were the finalists. Are these two teams not getting enough credit for last year?

They played the best championship football, Johnnies should have beaten Cargin in the first game and proved their worth in the second. Johnnies to lose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 02, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
lots of tongue in cheek from Milltown me thinks

Aghagallon not going as well this year......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 02, 2018, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 02, 2018, 05:00:26 PM
lots of tongue in cheek from Milltown me thinks

Aghagallon not going as well this year......


Jeez I thought he was serious...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on July 04, 2018, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2018, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Friday, Wed and another Friday?

Would you prefer them match and two hard training sessions and then another match? Some people are hard too please! Players prefer games to training? If you'd played a bit, you'd agree  ;)
its certainly suiting st galls anyway! What's the difference with them this year?

Leagues are playing, championships are for winning. Hopefully we don't become Cargin  ;)
do u think the lamhs winning it last year was a one off? They seem to be having an average league campaign
LD won 8 and lost 8 in the league last year but won when it mattered-Championship. As MR2 says, leagues are for playing in. St Galls will be ready to mount a serious challenge for Championship-plenty still around who know what it's about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 07, 2018, 09:02:15 AM
Think lotta teams glad to get across the line at the split..

Five games allocated in a two week period has taken its toll at Cargin.

Ten regulars unavailable (injured) for last night's game..

Players welfare  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 07, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
I see Glenravel took their defeat to Ardoyne well last night  :D

(https://i.imgur.com/Q9oPIj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eU1iU4b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oXJYrKO.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on July 11, 2018, 11:24:18 AM
Does anyone know with the underage been restructured next year to U13, U15, U17 is this going to carry on down to what is now U6's, U8's, U10's?

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 11, 2018, 12:58:21 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on July 07, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
I see Glenravel took their defeat to Ardoyne well last night  :D

(https://i.imgur.com/Q9oPIj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eU1iU4b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oXJYrKO.jpg)

;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 11, 2018, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 07, 2018, 09:02:15 AM
Think lotta teams glad to get across the line at the split..

Five games allocated in a two week period has taken its toll at Cargin.

Ten regulars unavailable (injured) for last night's game..

Players welfare  8)

Must say, it was poor form from the fixtures committee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2018, 07:40:49 PM
Did any suspensions ever come out of the PG1 v St Johns match earlier in the year when the crowd and the players had a go at each other?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 11, 2018, 09:05:11 PM
Was there ever provisional dates set out for the championship games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2018, 07:40:49 PM
Did any suspensions ever come out of the PG1 v St Johns match earlier in the year when the crowd and the players had a go at each other?????

Pictures or videos or it didn't happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on July 12, 2018, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2018, 07:40:49 PM
Did any suspensions ever come out of the PG1 v St Johns match earlier in the year when the crowd and the players had a go at each other?????

Pictures or videos or it didn't happen

Referee allegedly seen nothing but worried about his safety??? Players & Mentors seen nothing??? Video (What video????) Independent witness yes, allegedly gave full verbal report but wouldn't put it in writing, not good Big A if that is true  :-X no where to go, id say well played both sides.... job well done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 12, 2018, 08:03:02 AM
Anyone seen Bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 12, 2018, 12:40:18 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on July 12, 2018, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2018, 07:40:49 PM
Did any suspensions ever come out of the PG1 v St Johns match earlier in the year when the crowd and the players had a go at each other?????

Pictures or videos or it didn't happen

Referee allegedly seen nothing but worried about his safety??? Players & Mentors seen nothing??? Video (What video????) Independent witness yes, allegedly gave full verbal report but wouldn't put it in writing, not good Big A if that is true  :-X no where to go, id say well played both sides.... job well done
so massive row and nobody punished / not good in the long run or what!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2018, 02:03:58 PM
Anyone actually going to give a description of what happened or are we going by hearsay? There are dust ups in most games!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 12, 2018, 04:48:37 PM
Just had a look at the now split league tables and I see anyone could have predicted the top 5 clubs and PG1 have joined them. I thought it would have been Rossa and Aghagallon challenging the big 5 as I see it but not so...

In Div 2 Aldergrove and St Brigids at the top is no surprise but the Gorts right up there is a bit of a surprise - wonder what's working for them..... St Pauls unexpectingly struggling

I love the 12th July!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 13, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
The County Board investigated the Portglenone Vs St Johns incident thoroughly. A good few people were called to interviews at Dunsilly to give their account, including both players and spectators. In the end I believe Portglenone received 2 suspensions and St Johns received 1. Reading the comments on here, there seems to be a lot of people happy to hype up the situation for some reason?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2018, 10:58:33 AM
Quote from: Caesar on July 13, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
The County Board investigated the Portglenone Vs St Johns incident thoroughly. A good few people were called to interviews at Dunsilly to give their account, including both players and spectators. In the end I believe Portglenone received 2 suspensions and St Johns received 1. Reading the comments on here, there seems to be a lot of people happy to hype up the situation for some reason?

That's just t done then ... now let's move on to championship predictions please! Much better craic ... it's the johnnies to lose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 13, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
The city are going to clean up again. Football is dead out in the country  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2018, 01:32:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 13, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
The city are going to clean up again. Football is dead out in the country  ;)

I didn't want to say that. Cargin have the edge though over the SW teams still, seem to crap themselves when they meet Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 13, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
Anyone able to post the draw on here for final predictions banter I mean predictions....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on July 14, 2018, 06:19:13 AM
Quote from: Caesar on July 13, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
The County Board investigated the Portglenone Vs St Johns incident thoroughly. A good few people were called to interviews at Dunsilly to give their account, including both players and spectators. In the end I believe Portglenone received 2 suspensions and St Johns received 1. Reading the comments on here, there seems to be a lot of people happy to hype up the situation for some reason?

100% Caesar the suspensions came from the Refs report on the day, and in all of those good few people I understand there was not one Independent witness apart from one who talked but wouldn't go on record, yet rumour has it he sits on a county committee  :-X :-X so the CCC had no where to go!  So again well done both clubs at least the agreed on something...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 15, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2018, 01:32:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 13, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
The city are going to clean up again. Football is dead out in the country  ;)

I didn't want to say that. Cargin have the edge though over the SW teams still, seem to crap themselves when they meet Cargin
It is almost a given that the Milltown Blues will regain the senior title this year.
Sure they have impressed all year in the league, and hammered Cargin at Toome in the process.
Have taken the very generous 4/1... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 15, 2018, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 15, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2018, 01:32:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 13, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
The city are going to clean up again. Football is dead out in the country  ;)

I didn't want to say that. Cargin have the edge though over the SW teams still, seem to crap themselves when they meet Cargin
It is almost a given that the Milltown Blues will regain the senior title this year.
Sure they have impressed all year in the league, and hammered Cargin at Toome in the process.
Have taken the very generous 4/1... ;)
dont see the championship draw or dates on county web....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on July 15, 2018, 09:10:41 PM
Cargin are after ur man mpabee from france apparently. Hes got pace to burn and would be some addition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2018, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on July 15, 2018, 09:10:41 PM
Cargin are after ur man mpabee from france apparently. Hes got pace to burn and would be some addition

Needs an end product though  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 15, 2018, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on July 15, 2018, 09:10:41 PM
Cargin are after ur man mpabee from france apparently. Hes got pace to burn and would be some addition

And they thought that was to be under wraps until the deed was done..... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WT4E on July 16, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Here lads whats the craic - Moneyglass Ticket sellers up our way not getting good press.

Calling in a lot of places twice and being a bit pushy... Do they have a name for this?

Been ticket selling myself in the past not a nice job!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 16, 2018, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 16, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Here lads whats the craic - Moneyglass Ticket sellers up our way not getting good press.

Calling in a lot of places twice and being a bit pushy... Do they have a name for this?

Been ticket selling myself in the past not a nice job!!!

I've had them at my door and tbh they were decent lads. No bullshit from them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on July 17, 2018, 02:23:46 PM
Had them at my door too, Girl and a fella & have to say they were very nice and mannerly, Only had the price of one ticket on me but they were delighted to get it. Definitely not an easy job, fair play to them, see they raised over 300K!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 17, 2018, 04:05:42 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on July 17, 2018, 02:23:46 PM
Had them at my door too, Girl and a fella & have to say they were very nice and mannerly, Only had the price of one ticket on me but they were delighted to get it. Definitely not an easy job, fair play to them, see they raised over 300K!

Over 400k
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 18, 2018, 10:52:58 AM
fair play to them. ive sold more than my fair share of tickets over the years and its not a nice job.

I see Cargins new facility has got well started now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 20, 2018, 10:17:14 AM
That's serious door knocking Hoof. Not many clubs have broken the 400 mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 23, 2018, 12:13:38 PM
Anyone else sick of nothingness at Inter County Level?
The size of our County why can we not produce boys who want to compete?
Why do we not have pride to represent our County? Like travel down to Kerry (extreme example I know) and everything is Green and Gold, it's an obsession and a pride. They wouldn't accept Div 4 and nothingness

Here if you go to watch Antrim people laugh and scorn "why bother go and watch them?"
IF we had more pride in ourselves and our place it may change matters.

Getting on a County team is not the same as beating another County team. Why can a boy from Ballymena not be as fit or strong as a boy from Ballymun?

Why accept nothingness? Why are we watching the Super 8s without a proper anger that it isn't us who are there?

We must be one of the few counties at this stage who haven't got to Croke Park since the qualifiers began--who else hasn't? Leitrim, Kilkenny and Waterford (and possibly Limerick) are the only Counties I believe ffs.
Like we've boys and men all over Belfast (black taxi drivers etc) all wearing Antrim Gear/Jerseys/Hats yet how many actually go to matches, SUPPORT and cheer their County on? Or give 1 fcuk? I know ppl who wear the gear but don't do it for anything to do with support of our County Team--it's a joke.

Great work with the Business forum and Vision but money doesn't give you pride to be fitter, stronger and not accept failure, pride does. We have none.

We've no County ground. Not 1 club with a stand and are the laughing stock of Ulster GAA

Baker was our best time in any time I can remember. Aidan O'Rourke etc was interested --I honestly (no disrespect to current team) think we need an outside man to come in immediately and take over the County Senior Team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 27, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
There is such a malaise towards our county teams it is unbelievable. The basic truth of the matter is that 90% of club members don't give a flying fig about the county. This generalisation won't surprise anyone. But the question is WHY is this the case?

We have so many fly by night supporters. We took circa 8 or 10 thousand supporters to an Ulster final in 2009, yet against Carlow in our last home game there wasn't 100 people supporting Antrim.

What really gets me is not the taxi drivers Gold. Where are the many hundreds of ex county players who have donned the jersey over the years. Take minor football alone. In the last 40 years (take 30 as an average sized panel) there is 1200 alone. Or the numbers who have passed through development squads, many looking for and getting their free jersey.

I could name county stalwarts at senior level who represented us with pride, but you wouldn't see the vast majority of them out supporting us. What's that about?

Then there is the Antrim masters team. Great lads out wearing the jersey at 40 years or more.....but is it really about representing Antrim or representing themselves? Most wouldn't think of crossing the road to watch Antrim. What's their reason for this? Are they waiting for their own careers to finish first lol.

Our pathetic support is only one outward sign that there are bigger problems beneath the surface. There's no doubt it is really frustrating supporting Antrim and we really could do with something to cheer about in the next year or two.









Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 27, 2018, 08:26:43 PM
I am comparatively lucky. My uncle, who was Co. Treasurer at the time, took me to the U-21 football final in 1974, when Antrim lost narrowly to Mayo. I was at the 1989 senior hurling final, when we lost to Tipperary. I attended a funeral a couple of years ago for an Antrim Gael called Sean McNally, who was in charge of S. Antrim during the height of the conflict. During a eulogy, his son said that his dad's proudest GAA moment was Antrim's All-Ireland U-21 football victory in 1969. The problem is, with all due respect, we won't  compete at those sort of levels, ever again. We had limited national success in the old days, but we had some. It is hard enough nowadays to keep clubs afloat. The county will suffer, as we don't have any success whatsoever.  Nowadays, unless you provide instant & constant gratification,  you're of no real use & interest quickly dies away. Plus, there are so many  other better organised alternative attractions these days. Hence it is with Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2018, 08:55:14 AM
One thing I don't foresee is instant, that's the problem. The journey Antrim must make from being a bottom eight to a top eight is achievable, but it will take massive leadership, drive, buy-in, financial imput and luck.

Luck being that we need 20 -25 players arriving at the required standard at the same time. And this includes half a dozen players who could for example make a Dublin panel.

I'd settle for seeing a top eight team in my lifetime, that would be a notable achievement, and some good building blocks are being put in place.

Question PWTW1....Do you manage to get to a few county games yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 28, 2018, 09:12:30 AM
Nice to see you back BS, hopefully nothing serious kept you off the board as last while. How's things in PG1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2018, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 27, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
There is such a malaise towards our county teams it is unbelievable. The basic truth of the matter is that 90% of club members don't give a flying fig about the county. This generalisation won't surprise anyone. But the question is WHY is this the case?

We have so many fly by night supporters. We took circa 8 or 10 thousand supporters to an Ulster final in 2009, yet against Carlow in our last home game there wasn't 100 people supporting Antrim.

What really gets me is not the taxi drivers Gold. Where are the many hundreds of ex county players who have donned the jersey over the years. Take minor football alone. In the last 40 years (take 30 as an average sized panel) there is 1200 alone. Or the numbers who have passed through development squads, many looking for and getting their free jersey.

I could name county stalwarts at senior level who represented us with pride, but you wouldn't see the vast majority of them out supporting us. What's that about?

Then there is the Antrim masters team. Great lads out wearing the jersey at 40 years or more.....but is it really about representing Antrim or representing themselves? Most wouldn't think of crossing the road to watch Antrim. What's their reason for this? Are they waiting for their own careers to finish first lol.

Our pathetic support is only one outward sign that there are bigger problems beneath the surface. There's no doubt it is really frustrating supporting Antrim and we really could do with something to cheer about in the next year or two.

Success won't be built on how many people turn up at a game, My own club got success from a desire to wear the jersey, 10 people watching a club game as no affect on the players turning out for their club, one of Antrim's problems is making it feel that they are representing something special, pride and passion. If a player needs 500 people out watching him before he plays then he's turning up for the wrong reasons, the support is a by product of success, always has been..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2018, 10:41:10 AM
Please MR don't interpret what I said as better support equates to success. God I wish it was that simple!

My main point was simply where has our support gone to...it's never been as bad. Second point....people are much more interested in their clubs atm,  Third point, our own ex players have deserted the cause completely, (why) and fourthly, we have massive work to do. Nowhere have I remotely insinuated that extra support would guarantee anything!

Regarding such fickle support we are pathetic. Everyone waiting for a magical run before they go to the closet to find their old colours. Either you get behind your county team or you don't. Sometimes it seems we have more experts on here than people who bother their backsides driving a mile or two to support their county.

Sometimes I think we simply don't deserve success....because compared to other counties we haven't got enough people who REALLY care.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
Cheers PJ. A few months ago I decided to take a break from here. I'd changes going on at work (new business venture) and that was a big priority, and I was getting a bit tired of the same old rhetoric here. 

As it turned out not much has changed. Season one for Lenny and his support team on and behind the scenes was far from what was envisaged, and another year of same won't do. Players like Lennys set up, its definitely more professional than before....but Lennys remit is to deliver results too, so hopefully year two will see a clearer progress curve in relation to his impressive 5 year plan.

I wasn't avoiding here because of a fracas between ourselves and St John's. Our club committee has discussed discipline on the field at length, and we are being pro active about that as clubs should be. We will take our medicine whatever it Is, and when the matter has reached its conclusion I will offer my own appraisal of the situation. (The matter is still ongoing).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Fair comment HS. I totally get the product isn't good enough, but even when we fluctuated between divisions 3 and 4 for years, there was always a decent crowd at our home games....maybe 800 to 1200 home supporters.....a guess I admit. The product wasn't much better then. People you saw at matches all the time have literally just stopped going. We hadn't 200 at Pairc Esler and even less in Tullamore for the qualifier against Offaly.

So why such an obvious drop off in support inside a couple of years? Has the product got THAT much worse?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 28, 2018, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 28, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Fair comment HS. I totally get the product isn't good enough, but even when we fluctuated between divisions 3 and 4 for years, there was always a decent crowd at our home games....maybe 800 to 1200 home supporters.....a guess I admit. The product wasn't much better then. People you saw at matches all the time have literally just stopped going. We hadn't 200 at Pairc Esler and even less in Tullamore for the qualifier against Offaly.

So why such an obvious drop off in support inside a couple of years? Has the product got THAT much worse?

Personally, im just sick of the county game in general, even on TV i find watching county football difficult and thats the top teams, this has filtered down to me going to Antrim games, i used to go to every championship game, most league games and the odd mckenna cup game. Its been at least a few years since i went to a county game, just got out of the habit and i have zero interest in going back just apathy i suppose. Flip side of that, ive driven to Toome, Portglenone, ahoghill and other places to watch club games as a neutral just as i find them more enjoyable. dunno what we can do about the county, suppose my point is i dont think the rapid decline in numbers is exclusive to Antrim, i think all bar maybe 5-6 counties are experiencing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2018, 01:10:47 PM
Gold, you mention an outside manager being a priority. But the big question is how could that be funded. You mentioned Aidan O Rourke again as if he might provide the answer. Well he hasn't done it anywhere yet, at club county or university level, so what's your motive for thinking he would be the solution. And wasn't he given an opportunity to interview the last time round? At least the other two candidates Lenny and JMK had taken club teams to win All Ireland titles. Plus they both made excellent presentations. Of the three, AOR looked the least attractive and the costliest.

There's no easy answer to finding the manager that will please everyone.  15 (or more) South Antrim managers in my lifetime supporting Antrim have had a go...to little success ( bar big Whitey in 2000 but again this fizzled out soon after) obviously no one in the South West ticks the boxes because in 100 years we haven't had one, and if we go for the big name (say a Malachy O Rourke for example) the question is who is going to fund that?

It won't come out of county coffers that's for sure. Two thirds of the senior county expenditure in the last 5 years had been blown on the hurling side of things!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2018, 01:18:13 PM
TheMac you're right in that there's no doubt the modern game is hard to watch. It dosent hold a candle to full on 15 a side as we knew it. Who in God's earth would want to be a corner forward in today's game. And yes it's true crowd numbers are well down in other counties too...especially in Derry who have had some fall from grace by their own lofty standards.






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on July 29, 2018, 06:57:01 AM
Over the past few years we have had good minor teams that have more than held their own at Ulster and have been extremely competitive, we have nothing to loose in Div. 4 and the present county panel bar 2 or 3 good young lads just physically can't do it. These kids worked well and atm are lost in the system of age groups but playing club football . AV should in conjunction with sensible people on the executive (not easy) just accept Div. 4 for the next few years and focus on these kids to pull through what would be a strong and unified group of lads.. If not they'll be lost heading away to Uni, states and further a field . Forget about everything except building for the next 3-5 years with these kids that have proved they can compete and get on no club rivalry.. We had a least 11 lads from Antrim on a Mc Crory & Hogan Cup winning panel/ team ffs or have the powers at be forgot this!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: galwayman on July 29, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 28, 2018, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 28, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Fair comment HS. I totally get the product isn't good enough, but even when we fluctuated between divisions 3 and 4 for years, there was always a decent crowd at our home games....maybe 800 to 1200 home supporters.....a guess I admit. The product wasn't much better then. People you saw at matches all the time have literally just stopped going. We hadn't 200 at Pairc Esler and even less in Tullamore for the qualifier against Offaly.

So why such an obvious drop off in support inside a couple of years? Has the product got THAT much worse?

Personally, im just sick of the county game in general, even on TV i find watching county football difficult and thats the top teams, this has filtered down to me going to Antrim games, i used to go to every championship game, most league games and the odd mckenna cup game. Its been at least a few years since i went to a county game, just got out of the habit and i have zero interest in going back just apathy i suppose. Flip side of that, ive driven to Toome, Portglenone, ahoghill and other places to watch club games as a neutral just as i find them more enjoyable. dunno what we can do about the county, suppose my point is i dont think the rapid decline in numbers is exclusive to Antrim, i think all bar maybe 5-6 counties are experiencing it.
I obviously can't talk about Antrim football specifically but I think you've hit the nail on the head in a general sense there.
I know a lot of people (Galway & Mayo mainly) who would have been big into going to every game who now would go only occasionally as they find county football a hard watch.
It can still produce fantastic games from time to time but a lot of it is drab enough.
I go to all the Galway football games league & chanpionship but would also watch a fair amount of club football in both Galway and Mayo - one thing I find in these counties anyway still is that the very defensive football you see at county level hasn't overly filtered down to the club scene.
Not in Galway and Mayo anyway from what I've seen.
There are exceptions of course - but few enough teams go that way from what I've seen.
Bad club games are more about just old fashioned bad football rather than defensive football borefests.
Was up in Casement for the Galway Antrim game in 2012.Awful day for Galway football but an enjoyable day out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 29, 2018, 09:16:35 AM
Lenny will have learned a lot in year one and will have a better understanding of the type of player he needs for next year and subsequent years. I spoke to him recently at a match between Portglenone and Cargin and he is very proactive about scouting for the type of player he wants, and has designated men watching lots of games all summer. He can't be faulted for giving the job his full commitment and hopefully he will pick up  dozen exciting new panellists for next year. He deserves all the support we can offer if we are going to have a proper crack at getting back out of division four in 2019.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on July 30, 2018, 10:45:13 AM
i hear it was rough between Ld and Kickams yesterday with a man having to be air lifted to hospital ? hope he makes a full recovery, was at st johns and cargin a draw probably a fair result but cargin have a bit more in the tank have to be favourites for the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 30, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 29, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 28, 2018, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 28, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Fair comment HS. I totally get the product isn't good enough, but even when we fluctuated between divisions 3 and 4 for years, there was always a decent crowd at our home games....maybe 800 to 1200 home supporters.....a guess I admit. The product wasn't much better then. People you saw at matches all the time have literally just stopped going. We hadn't 200 at Pairc Esler and even less in Tullamore for the qualifier against Offaly.

So why such an obvious drop off in support inside a couple of years? Has the product got THAT much worse?

Personally, im just sick of the county game in general, even on TV i find watching county football difficult and thats the top teams, this has filtered down to me going to Antrim games, i used to go to every championship game, most league games and the odd mckenna cup game. Its been at least a few years since i went to a county game, just got out of the habit and i have zero interest in going back just apathy i suppose. Flip side of that, ive driven to Toome, Portglenone, ahoghill and other places to watch club games as a neutral just as i find them more enjoyable. dunno what we can do about the county, suppose my point is i dont think the rapid decline in numbers is exclusive to Antrim, i think all bar maybe 5-6 counties are experiencing it.
I obviously can't talk about Antrim football specifically but I think you've hit the nail on the head in a general sense there.
I know a lot of people (Galway & Mayo mainly) who would have been big into going to every game who now would go only occasionally as they find county football a hard watch.
It can still produce fantastic games from time to time but a lot of it is drab enough.
I go to all the Galway football games league & chanpionship but would also watch a fair amount of club football in both Galway and Mayo - one thing I find in these counties anyway still is that the very defensive football you see at county level hasn't overly filtered down to the club scene.
Not in Galway and Mayo anyway from what I've seen.
There are exceptions of course - but few enough teams go that way from what I've seen.
Bad club games are more about just old fashioned bad football rather than defensive football borefests.
Was up in Casement for the Galway Antrim game in 2012.Awful day for Galway football but an enjoyable day out

Always good to get an outside view and see that we aren't unique in Antrim. Unfortunately i think now, a lot of clubs are introducing a defensive style, was chatting to a div 1 player few weeks ago who was said he really wasn't enjoying his football anymore because of 'the system' this is a team full of quality players with lots of flair but who are being held on a leash by a system, let the players go and express themselves i dare say it would surprise managers what can happen.

On that game at casement, i remember it well, we had a good side at that time. I remember Galway were on a slow decline at the time and remember being quietly confident we could get a win. Would that have been seen as a catalyst for change in Galway? i seem to remember a lot of the older guard playing that day, was that the game that finally finished a lot of them off? When i look at Galway now i wonder was that day we beat them the rock bottom and they've built from it? Which then begs the question, we are at rock bottom now, how do we get that bounce to start going again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on July 30, 2018, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on July 30, 2018, 10:45:13 AM
i hear it was rough between Ld and Kickams yesterday with a man having to be air lifted to hospital ? hope he makes a full recovery, was at st johns and cargin a draw probably a fair result but cargin have a bit more in the tank have to be favourites for the championship.

Cowardly act if the allegations are true, enough people there to view it and lets hope Sam makes a full recovery and the county deal with it accordingly, and of course lets hope MR seen it too.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 30, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 29, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 28, 2018, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 28, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Fair comment HS. I totally get the product isn't good enough, but even when we fluctuated between divisions 3 and 4 for years, there was always a decent crowd at our home games....maybe 800 to 1200 home supporters.....a guess I admit. The product wasn't much better then. People you saw at matches all the time have literally just stopped going. We hadn't 200 at Pairc Esler and even less in Tullamore for the qualifier against Offaly.

So why such an obvious drop off in support inside a couple of years? Has the product got THAT much worse?

Personally, im just sick of the county game in general, even on TV i find watching county football difficult and thats the top teams, this has filtered down to me going to Antrim games, i used to go to every championship game, most league games and the odd mckenna cup game. Its been at least a few years since i went to a county game, just got out of the habit and i have zero interest in going back just apathy i suppose. Flip side of that, ive driven to Toome, Portglenone, ahoghill and other places to watch club games as a neutral just as i find them more enjoyable. dunno what we can do about the county, suppose my point is i dont think the rapid decline in numbers is exclusive to Antrim, i think all bar maybe 5-6 counties are experiencing it.
I obviously can't talk about Antrim football specifically but I think you've hit the nail on the head in a general sense there.
I know a lot of people (Galway & Mayo mainly) who would have been big into going to every game who now would go only occasionally as they find county football a hard watch.
It can still produce fantastic games from time to time but a lot of it is drab enough.
I go to all the Galway football games league & chanpionship but would also watch a fair amount of club football in both Galway and Mayo - one thing I find in these counties anyway still is that the very defensive football you see at county level hasn't overly filtered down to the club scene.
Not in Galway and Mayo anyway from what I've seen.
There are exceptions of course - but few enough teams go that way from what I've seen.
Bad club games are more about just old fashioned bad football rather than defensive football borefests.
Was up in Casement for the Galway Antrim game in 2012.Awful day for Galway football but an enjoyable day out

Always good to get an outside view and see that we aren't unique in Antrim. Unfortunately i think now, a lot of clubs are introducing a defensive style, was chatting to a div 1 player few weeks ago who was said he really wasn't enjoying his football anymore because of 'the system' this is a team full of quality players with lots of flair but who are being held on a leash by a system, let the players go and express themselves i dare say it would surprise managers what can happen.

On that game at casement, i remember it well, we had a good side at that time. I remember Galway were on a slow decline at the time and remember being quietly confident we could get a win. Would that have been seen as a catalyst for change in Galway? i seem to remember a lot of the older guard playing that day, was that the game that finally finished a lot of them off? When i look at Galway now i wonder was that day we beat them the rock bottom and they've built from it? Which then begs the question, we are at rock bottom now, how do we get that bounce to start going again

Truthfully i think mchugh is right that ulster football has a lot to answer for. Even our lower divisions are loaded with "sweepers".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 31, 2018, 12:24:40 PM
Anyone know what happened during the Lamh Dhearg vs Creggan game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on July 31, 2018, 12:52:08 PM
Any idea when the club football Championships start, are there dates?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
Just preliminary round dates 7-9 September Tiempo. Fixtures on Antrim Gas website. All quiet on LD v Creggan, but would you really want, or expect all the unsavoury details on a discussion forum. Next thing it will be page one of the Belfast Telegraph and headline news on the TV.  Any chance they get....

Having said that it's important that discipline is enforced (consistently) through the proper channels and our games can be played in a sporting fashion. Hope the player in question makes a good recovery.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 19, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
Just seen the latest results from the football leagues, seen the table, St Pauls sitting 2nd bottom of div 2? whats happened there, surely a club that size cant drop to junior football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 20, 2018, 08:36:13 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 19, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
Just seen the latest results from the football leagues, seen the table, St Pauls sitting 2nd bottom of div 2? whats happened there, surely a club that size cant drop to junior football?

Looking that way. Like every other club, I'd guess they've went through the hard times and lost some players.

Sad to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on August 20, 2018, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 20, 2018, 08:36:13 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 19, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
Just seen the latest results from the football leagues, seen the table, St Pauls sitting 2nd bottom of div 2? whats happened there, surely a club that size cant drop to junior football?

Looking that way. Like every other club, I'd guess they've went through the hard times and lost some players.

Sad to see.

I know nothing about their situation but looking at results, every loss appears to have been by a small margin. They have a positive points difference. If they win remaining two matches they should be safe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 20, 2018, 10:32:42 AM
Quote from: ned on August 20, 2018, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 20, 2018, 08:36:13 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 19, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
Just seen the latest results from the football leagues, seen the table, St Pauls sitting 2nd bottom of div 2? whats happened there, surely a club that size cant drop to junior football?

Looking that way. Like every other club, I'd guess they've went through the hard times and lost some players.

Sad to see.

I know nothing about their situation but looking at results, every loss appears to have been by a small margin. They have a positive points difference. If they win remaining two matches they should be safe.

Just looked there myself, they play Sarsfields next wed night, fail to win that and they're pretty much down. Sars have a game in hand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2018, 09:58:05 AM
Didnt get to see our game against Cargin at the weekend, Cargin doing their mind games it seems, sending out the reserves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 21, 2018, 12:28:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2018, 09:58:05 AM
Didnt get to see our game against Cargin at the weekend, Cargin doing their mind games it seems, sending out the reserves

Won't matter who they have out, its 2 in a row for Lamh Dhearg.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 21, 2018, 12:52:14 PM
LD very impressive against us at the weekend. Quite comfortably putting an end to a decent run we were having. St Galls flying too...getting lots of quality challenge games in....latest last week when they accounted for Clonoe quite easily.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2018, 01:47:29 PM
Best team Ive seen this year is the Johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 21, 2018, 02:11:28 PM
Its the most wide open championship ever - what do the bookies have it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 21, 2018, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2018, 01:47:29 PM
Best team Ive seen this year is the Johnnies

Nonsense, St Galls by a country mile.  There is easily another Ulster in them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 22, 2018, 01:36:18 PM
St Galls favourites for the double now I assume after eliminating feile champs and current unbeaten league leaders All Saints minors last night. Another generation waiting in the wings perhaps??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 22, 2018, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2018, 09:58:05 AM
Didnt get to see our game against Cargin at the weekend, Cargin doing their mind games it seems, sending out the reserves
Got that one wrong MR2......Cargin are gutted to have lost out on the chance to win another league title....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 22, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
Mr Cassidy wasn't brought in to win league's methinks CB!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 23, 2018, 08:30:48 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2018, 01:36:18 PM
St Galls favourites for the double now I assume after eliminating feile champs and current unbeaten league leaders All Saints minors last night. Another generation waiting in the wings perhaps??

seen that minor result the other night BS, was surprised at it as thats a good ballymena team.

On a side note why wasnt the minor match on the new pitch tuesday night? could of done with them lights in the last 15mins lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 23, 2018, 08:56:12 AM
I got caught up at work and completely missed the game DR. Home just in time for then post mortems! No excuses from us Dunloy are definitely in the mix now. Heard good reports about Deaghlan Smyths brother at full forward. And Shean Elliott too, obviously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 23, 2018, 09:10:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUCwq2mDFw 

A hard and depressing watch and listen

Casement's and Antrim/Belfast's demise played out on National Airwaves

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
Bit of a suprise in Creggan with Glenravel romping home. Ballymena losing was a shock also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 23, 2018, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 23, 2018, 08:56:12 AM
I got caught up at work and completely missed the game DR. Home just in time for then post mortems! No excuses from us Dunloy are definitely in the mix now. Heard good reports about Deaghlan Smyths brother at full forward. And Shean Elliott too, obviously.

to be fair it was nip and tuck for the whole first half. use defended deep and closed out all of the space forcing mistakes and wides on our end. You defended well but couldnt break out at pace and in the numbers when our attacks broke down.

Your centre half and captain looks a good strong player.

Aye young Anthony is starting to stretch out as he gets older and is developing into a good player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 29, 2018, 10:30:58 PM
St. Paul's relegated to the lowest tier of Antrim football tonight following a loss to Sarsfields.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 30, 2018, 12:04:43 AM
Quote from: stiffler on August 29, 2018, 10:30:58 PM
St. Paul's relegated to the lowest tier of Antrim football tonight following a loss to Sarsfields.

Is that considered a shock?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on August 30, 2018, 09:36:46 AM
SFC going to be a hard one to call this year but I don't think it will be heading to the south west think it will be a St Johns ST Galls Final. I hear cargin are going to have a few regulars missing for the LD game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
You've Creggan Galls Johnnies Cargin Lamhs and Casements, anyone from that crowd. Johnnies still smarting from last year may be enough to get them over the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on August 30, 2018, 11:34:43 AM
Did any of you guys hear that podcast about the current state of Gaelic games in Belfast? Casement, politics, participation rates, number of clubs all discussed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 30, 2018, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
You've Creggan Galls Johnnies Cargin Lamhs and Casements, anyone from that crowd. Johnnies still smarting from last year may be enough to get them over the line

Galls are 1/4 with Toals.  Easy stuff for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2018, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 30, 2018, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2018, 10:40:59 AM

You've Creggan Galls Johnnies Cargin Lamhs and Casements, anyone from that crowd. Johnnies still smarting from last year may be enough to get them over the line

Galls are 1/4 with Toals.  Easy stuff for them.
Gall's 3/1 with Toals.....lights in ur eyes mo chara....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 30, 2018, 03:01:37 PM
Had planned to go to Creggan to see St galls game, but lucky enough got wind that it wasn't on so went to Cargin to their game with Portglenone. Decent game to be fair, Cargin bossed the second half, comfortable win for them. Portglenone missing young Delargey who plays county. A few Cargin supporters beside me telling the amount of injuries Cargin have had and the players that were absent last night. If they don't clear up in the next four weeks hard to see how they will bt anyone in the championship, probably facing Lamh Dhearg. The ref let Portglenone off with some amount of fouling, lets just say the Cargin support were cheesed off with his lack of action. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2018, 03:15:54 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 30, 2018, 03:01:37 PM
Had planned to go to Creggan to see St galls game, but lucky enough got wind that it wasn't on so went to Cargin to their game with Portglenone. Decent game to be fair, Cargin bossed the second half, comfortable win for them. Portglenone missing young Delargey who plays county. A few Cargin supporters beside me telling the amount of injuries Cargin have had and the players that were absent last night. If they don't clear up in the next four weeks hard to see how they will bt anyone in the championship, probably facing Lamh Dhearg. The ref let Portglenone off with some amount of fouling, lets just say the Cargin support were cheesed off with his lack of action.

I read that Casements had 6 players noted 2 yellow carded, one black carded and a red card? You must have been watching the wrong game in fairness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 01, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
St galls in AI severs final - again !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 01, 2018, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 01, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
St galls in AI severs final - again !!
Just lost in the final......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 01, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 01, 2018, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 01, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
St galls in AI severs final - again !!
Just lost in the final......

To corofin - AI double for them in 2018
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2018, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 01, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 01, 2018, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 01, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
St galls in AI severs final - again !!
Just lost in the final......

To corofin - AI double for them in 2018

Bitta prep and team bonding no doubt a good nights drink
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 01, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
City teams looking like they're going to clean up this year again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 01, 2018, 10:35:38 PM
What a team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2018, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 01, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
City teams looking like they're going to clean up this year again!
U may well be right JS.,.....but are you a soothsayer or a WUM......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 05, 2018, 10:55:33 AM
All good competitive games in the SFC this weekend
Expect Ld to win by wont be by much
Glenavy I think could spring a surprise with a win
Ahoghill should have to much for the Musgrave men
Rossa could give casements a game but would expect the casements to pull through
The IFC is appealing to but with TNN and MG facing off should be a cracker heard all the duffins are back playing for MG so that's a big boost.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 06, 2018, 02:43:46 PM
Quite a bit of action round the county this weekend, again as usual, the Saffron Gael has given good previews my predictions are:

SFC

Ahoghill Vs St Brigids- Gonna go for the Div 2 leaders
St Teresas Vs Glenavy- Teresas
Portglenone Vs Rossa- Portglenone
Lamh Dhearg Vs Aghagallon- Hannahstown

IFC
Gort Vs Aldergrove- Gort
Randalstown Vs Moneyglass- Moneyglass
St Endas Vs St Pauls- St Endas

JFC
O'Donnells Vs Antrim- Antrim
Lisburn Vs Ardoyne- Ardoyne
Glenravel Vs Pearses- Glenravel
St Agnes Vs St Malachys- Mals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2018, 03:11:18 PM
SFC

Ahoghill Vs St Brigids- Ahoghill by 3
St Teresas Vs Glenavy- Teresas by 5
Portglenone Vs Rossa- Portglenone by 10
Lamh Dhearg Vs Aghagallon- L/D by 5/6

IFC
Gort Vs Aldergrove- Gort
Randalstown Vs Moneyglass- Moneyglass
St Endas Vs St Pauls- St Endas

JFC
O'Donnells Vs Antrim- Antrim by 6/7
Lisburn Vs Ardoyne- Lisburn
Glenravel Vs Pearses- Glenravel by 8/9
St Agnes Vs St Malachys- Mals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 06, 2018, 08:37:01 PM
St brigids
St Teresa's
portglenone -6
Lamh Dhearg

Aldergrove
Moneyglass
St endas -6

O Donnells
Lisburn
Glenravel -6
St malachys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 09, 2018, 08:36:52 PM
surprised how bad aghagallon were tonight - did they have everyone available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 09, 2018, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 09, 2018, 08:36:52 PM
surprised how bad aghagallon were tonight - did they have everyone available?

3 of the minors would probably have come on or one maybe would have started. 3/4 injuries including our 2 best defenders but to be honest it wouldn't have mattered. They're too young and inexperienced yet. Literally men against boys in some areas of the field tonight. It'll be a couple of years before they develop physically to compete in championship. We would have needed our full team tonight and LD to have an off night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2018, 11:35:48 PM
We struggled past an under strength Rossa team and though we were 9 or 10 up at one stage I was glad to hear the final whistle. On today's performance we won't be any use to St Galls.

LD impressed me when they beat us a couple of weeks ago. Very strong physically, and Creggan put away a Cargin team handily enough on Friday night to suggest they are serious contenders too. Wide open this year as previously suggested, probably about six clubs thinking they have a chance if things go their way!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 10, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
A bit optimistic there BS......think Cargin are struggling with way too many injuries to key personnel to make a realistic challenge.
Take a leap of faith to suggest Casement's, Ahoghill or StTeresa's can go all the way.
Creggan did the business in the O'Cahan cup but not as "handy" as you perceived. They did not look happy in the closing stages as a twelve man, and very under strength Cargin finished strong.
The reigning champs do need to improve and although the Johnnie's have focused on championship from the outset and may well make another final I think the Milltown Blues are the business again and may well reclaim the crown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 10, 2018, 04:25:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 10, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
A bit optimistic there BS......think Cargin are struggling with way too many injuries to key personnel to make a realistic challenge.
Take a leap of faith to suggest Casement's, Ahoghill or StTeresa's can go all the way.
Creggan did the business in the O'Cahan cup but not as "handy" as you perceived. They did not look happy in the closing stages as a twelve man, and very under strength Cargin finished strong.
The reigning champs do need to improve and although the Johnnie's have focused on championship from the outset and may well make another final I think the Milltown Blues are the business again and may well reclaim the crown.

I would concur with CB, my sources said that it was a tight game, Cargin should have done better with an extra man, and Creggan should have done a lot better when they had 2 additional men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
Cargin still firmly in the mix, no one should suggest otherwise. But right now I'd see Creggan as the team to beat. Just one opinion!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2018, 06:52:59 PM
No surprises over the weekend really, all the favs won, some handier than expected and others found things a little harder.. would expect tough games next time around and a possible shock or two..

Johnnies Lamhs Creggan Naomh Gall Cargin and Portglenone have all had good games v each other over the season, with no back door or second chance it's all or nothing next day out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:40:49 PM
Cargin v LD at creggan. Harsh on LD?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 15, 2018, 12:03:45 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:40:49 PM
Cargin v LD at creggan. Harsh on LD?

City ref will even it up.. :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 15, 2018, 12:19:33 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?


He must talking about junior football.... intermediate and senior only at quarter finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 15, 2018, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:40:49 PM
Cargin v LD at creggan. Harsh on LD?
Sarsfield's v Moneyglass at Corrigan
Casement's v Galls at Corrigan

Harsh on Moneyglass and Casement's....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 15, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 15, 2018, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:40:49 PM
Cargin v LD at creggan. Harsh on LD?
Sarsfield's v Moneyglass at Corrigan
Casement's v Galls at Corrigan

Harsh on Moneyglass and Casement's....??
oh right I see what you mean. Does the county ask clubs to take games or do clubs put themselves forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 15, 2018, 12:08:01 PM
IMO not as harsh as £100 fines imposed on clubs for failing to field at minor football.
Profiteering or paying for King Henry's hotel!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 15, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 15, 2018, 12:08:01 PM
IMO not as harsh as £100 fines imposed on clubs for failing to field at minor football.
Profiteering or paying for King Henry's hotel!!!
is that 100 quid even if u give notice in advance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 15, 2018, 02:21:02 PM
Mr Toal must be privy to info not in circulation as to Antrim championship.....he bets as follows:

15/8 Cargin
100/30 L D
9/2 Galls
9/2 Creggan
9/2 St John's
20/1 Casement's
25/1 Ahoghill
33/1 St Teresa's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 15, 2018, 08:45:12 PM
BG, I don't know the full facts but I know that mentors try their utmost best to put out teams. From my experience they want to improve players and will always attempt to reschedule if players are unavailable. £100 fines appear highly punitive

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 15, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 15, 2018, 12:08:01 PM
IMO not as harsh as £100 fines imposed on clubs for failing to field at minor football.
Profiteering or paying for King Henry's hotel!!!
is that 100 quid even if u give notice in advance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Still struggling with it. As the only benefit a ref would have would be to ref his own club. Are saying there are refs out there that would deliberately biased against certain clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 17, 2018, 08:57:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
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If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

LOL youre being facetious my friend, this guy is claiming that because Glenravel are in the other semifinal that the Glenravel referee doing his match will be harsher on them......hes a numpty. The ref in question I've known for a very long time, its not in his make up to do that, very fair ref

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Still struggling with it. As the only benefit a ref would have would be to ref his own club. Are saying there are refs out there that would deliberately biased against certain clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 18, 2018, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
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Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

CB, you're talking complete bollocks, only in your wee narrow mind...  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maiden1 on September 18, 2018, 01:37:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
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Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Still struggling with it. As the only benefit a ref would have would be to ref his own club. Are saying there are refs out there that would deliberately biased against certain clubs?
Conflict of interest because if the refs team wins there semi final it would be to that teams advantage to play the weaker of the 2 teams in the final.

In Down Kilcoo are in 1 semi Burren in the other. Kilcoo last few years have beat Burren in final. Burren ref in the Kilcoo game and CPN 2 points behind going into injury time and someone from CPN falls in the box, it's a debatable call.  It could be tempting to blow for a penalty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2018, 06:35:54 AM
All referring appointments at this stage should go before the CCC to ratify, well that's what happens in other counties but then again in Antrim who knows?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2018, 07:30:35 AM
Unconscious bias a big thing in it too. Basically a conflict of interests and shouldn't happen. The person it is least fair on is the referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2018, 06:35:54 AM
All referring appointments at this stage should go before the CCC to ratify, well that's what happens in other counties but then again in Antrim who knows?

All appointments go through CCC here in Antrim also, that answer your post? There are no weaker teams, if one team loses a semifinal then they lost it cause they were the weaker team on the day, if a man goes down in the box and it's a penalty, it's becsuse it's a penalty... ffs lads get a grip and wind your suspicious minds in.

All referees that I know at this stage are gearing up to perform at the big games, to actually be completely biased in a match would jeopardise any chance they would have if getting games of any importance..

Basically you're calling a ref a cheat. Some buck ejjits out there are actually doing it online here and have yet to be called out by their online clubmen on here. Shows you the level of paranoia this goes to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 18, 2018, 09:01:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2018, 06:35:54 AM
All referring appointments at this stage should go before the CCC to ratify, well that's what happens in other counties but then again in Antrim who knows?

All appointments go through CCC here in Antrim also, that answer your post? There are no weaker teams, if one team loses a semifinal then they lost it cause they were the weaker team on the day, if a man goes down in the box and it's a penalty, it's becsuse it's a penalty... ffs lads get a grip and wind your suspicious minds in.

All referees that I know at this stage are gearing up to perform at the big games, to actually be completely biased in a match would jeopardise any chance they would have if getting games of any importance..

Basically you're calling a ref a cheat. Some buck ejjits out there are actually doing it online here and have yet to be called out by their online clubmen on here. Shows you the level of paranoia this goes to

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on

Pick the best two men for the job regardless of their club (obviously not reffing their own club)
Let them do what they have done for years to get there and ref two of the biggest three games of the year in the county.

Think clubs should start concerning themselves more with the standard of football in the county and the standard of player than worrying about the attitude of a ref in a certain game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 18, 2018, 11:38:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on

Pick the best two men for the job regardless of their club (obviously not reffing their own club)
Let them do what they have done for years to get there and ref two of the biggest three games of the year in the county.

Think clubs should start concerning themselves more with the standard of football in the county and the standard of player than worrying about the attitude of a ref in a certain game.

Exactly, not fair on refs who have worked hard all year, i suppose in theory if a referees club is in a semi final, theres a good chance they will make the final so the ref cant get the final so to rule him out of getting a semi final is unfair, remember referees love the game too its not really fair for a referee who turns up on wet nights to referee 2 teams in a meaningless league game to then get overlooked for an important game because his club is involved in the other semi
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2018, 09:32:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on

Pick the best two men for the job regardless of their club (obviously not reffing their own club)
Let them do what they have done for years to get there and ref two of the biggest three games of the year in the county.

Think clubs should start concerning themselves more with the standard of football in the county and the standard of player than worrying about the attitude of a ref in a certain game.

prob the most sensible post ive seen in a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 20, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
Being a ref can be a thankless task.  I would actually be less concerned about what is being highlighted about championship games than I would be around important league games. Even if a ref were to show bias he still could not do enough to help a way inferior team win a game. It would be the closer games and in that his own club then would be playing one of two teams of similar ability.

My main gripe about referees would be the one or two that do not get themselves fit enough to mive beyond either 45 and of course the inability to record the score accurately to the point the wrong outcome can be recorded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 20, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
Weekend Predictions

Creggan v Ahoghill - Creggan by 6
St Galls v Portglenone - St Galls by 3
St Johns v St Teresa's - St Johns by 4
Cargin v Lamh Dhearg - Cargin by 4

Dunloy v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 2
Sarsfields v Moneyglass - Moneyglass by 5
St Endas v Davitts - St Endas by 6
Ballymena v Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 20, 2018, 06:15:42 PM
Creggan by 10
St galls by 6
St johns by 6
Cargin by 2
Dunloy by 2
Moneyglass by 6
St endas by 10
Ballymena by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Great to be saying something positive about the CCC ! The u21 Football competition has been revamped into 5 group league format along a divisional basis then A&B knockout championship all county thereby each team gets at least 4 matches

Maith thu CCC!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 20, 2018, 11:27:44 PM
I completely disagree... all theses players are grtting games at mimor reserve or senior. Why do we need to play 8 matches in october and November to win the competition. Overkill and unnessary

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Great to be saying something positive about the CCC ! The u21 Football competition has been revamped into 5 group league format along a divisional basis then A&B knockout championship all county thereby each team gets at least 4 matches

Maith thu CCC!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
I applaud the initiative. The 17 -20 year olds are the age group where we traditionally lose a stack of players. More than other counties because of the pull of organised soccer league's every Saturday.

Minor is over for most clubs or will be in the next week or so for those still in the minor championship, senior reserve no one trains for and is practically over, and senior football is fizzling out for the vast majority of clubs in the next few weeks..going through the motions to get one or two league games wrapped up. So for the majority of the estimated 450 - 500 players involved this is a fresh challenge and with an A and B prize most clubs will be taking it seriously.
Or should be, if your club is serious about promoting football.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Great to be saying something positive about the CCC ! The u21 Football competition has been revamped into 5 group league format along a divisional basis then A&B knockout championship all county thereby each team gets at least 4 matches

Maith thu CCC!

at this stage of the year its madness. earlier in the year it would of made sense but not now.

its a good idea but the timing of the competition is just all wrong. the U21 hurling championship has been and gone ages ago so how come the football is played off in the winter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 21, 2018, 09:42:12 AM
The reserve football is an absolute embarrassment. The CCC think that's its respectful to reserve footballer to play the res championship in March before the league has started and in most cases players are unfit and are just started back training, its just shocking. Simply shocking, I can't communicate effectively how disgusted I am by that.
They then play the league after the championship. The league itself is fine up until the split, then you have the situation where you have a res team going to one venue whilst your senior team playing in another all over lapping, great if you have forty players, but due to the championship being over before a ball is kicked at senior level most players interest level has dropped and clubs struggle with the numbers, utterly thoughtless. Complete lip service to these players, never mind the league game where the ref didn't turn up

Also hearing that Niall Mc Keever is on holiday and not available for the game against St Galls this weekend. If true, he must have no respect at all for his fellow players or club. He has literally 10 and a half months of the year to do this but chooses the championship period. Dates have been available from April :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 21, 2018, 08:15:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Great to be saying something positive about the CCC ! The u21 Football competition has been revamped into 5 group league format along a divisional basis then A&B knockout championship all county thereby each team gets at least 4 matches

Maith thu CCC!

at this stage of the year its madness. earlier in the year it would of made sense but not now.

its a good idea but the timing of the competition is just all wrong. the U21 hurling championship has been and gone ages ago so how come the football is played off in the winter.
I believe the county has booked 4G facilities to run the competition which will really help the competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 21, 2018, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
I applaud the initiative. The 17 -20 year olds are the age group where we traditionally lose a stack of players. More than other counties because of the pull of organised soccer league's every Saturday.

Minor is over for most clubs or will be in the next week or so for those still in the minor championship, senior reserve no one trains for and is practically over, and senior football is fizzling out for the vast majority of clubs in the next few weeks..going through the motions to get one or two league games wrapped up. So for the majority of the estimated 450 - 500 players involved this is a fresh challenge and with an A and B prize most clubs will be taking it seriously.
Or should be, if your club is serious about promoting football.

You are half right but the plan as it stands is totally wrong and typical of the half assed approach to this competition for a decade or more. And tell those at the top of Div 2 and Div 3 and those with Ulster Championship ambitions that the leagues are fizzling out. Or is it just most clubs that have to be taken into consideration as opposed to all clubs?

U21 is an age group that needs more football. That is correct and this style of tournament is probably what is needed. But to stuff it in at the arse end of the calendar when conditions are deteriorating and intermediate and junior clubs have serious business to attend to is a nonsense at best. Intermediate and Junior clubs are more likely to have a bigger number of U21s in their first teams and yet matches are schedulded to clash with games that will define their entire effort since last winter.

To be honest I am not surprised given the arse elbow approach to scheduling games in our county.

Potential for a great tournament but the usual blinkered, ham fisted, seemily could hardly be assed attention to detail from our fixtures folk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
Dunloy V Gort called off due to a death in the Gort Na Mona club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 21, 2018, 10:05:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 21, 2018, 08:15:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Great to be saying something positive about the CCC ! The u21 Football competition has been revamped into 5 group league format along a divisional basis then A&B knockout championship all county thereby each team gets at least 4 matches

Maith thu CCC!

at this stage of the year its madness. earlier in the year it would of made sense but not now.

its a good idea but the timing of the competition is just all wrong. the U21 hurling championship has been and gone ages ago so how come the football is played off in the winter.
I believe the county has booked 4G facilities to run the competition which will really help the competition

Would prefer if they just played it at a time of they year when there is no need for artificial pitches and artifical lighting. Seems like artificial interest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2018, 10:07:25 PM
Does anyone here have a better idea when the calendar would suit hosting the U 21 football Championship. Seriously. When working that out please take into consideration exam season, hurling season, inter county competition/player availability, Sigerson, dual players, July they are all in Santa Ponsa, Aug - Oct still involved with clubs in league or championship.....etc....So exactly when should this competition be played??

The problem has been identified.. Anyone able to offer a solution?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 21, 2018, 10:39:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2018, 10:07:25 PM
Does anyone here have a better idea when the calendar would suit hosting the U 21 football Championship. Seriously. When working that out please take into consideration exam season, hurling season, inter county competition/player availability, Sigerson, dual players, July they are all in Santa Ponsa, Aug - Oct still involved with clubs in league or championship.....etc....So exactly when should this competition be played??

The problem has been identified.. Anyone able to offer a solution?

I remember it being a great competition when it was run off in spring with some midweek games. Must have been April, May June time. Everyone seemed to manage ok then. Maybe even a help with uni exams as was generally a bigger motivation to stay sober all week than the exams themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 21, 2018, 10:39:41 PM
All well and good but its oct nov and dec and boys have been on the go for 9 months. How many are playing for schools or college. Some boys on a 12 month a year schedule now. Far too demanding. Throw in weather and pitch concerns will be a fixture making nightmare

Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
I applaud the initiative. The 17 -20 year olds are the age group where we traditionally lose a stack of players. More than other counties because of the pull of organised soccer league's every Saturday.

Minor is over for most clubs or will be in the next week or so for those still in the minor championship, senior reserve no one trains for and is practically over, and senior football is fizzling out for the vast majority of clubs in the next few weeks..going through the motions to get one or two league games wrapped up. So for the majority of the estimated 450 - 500 players involved this is a fresh challenge and with an A and B prize most clubs will be taking it seriously.
Or should be, if your club is serious about promoting football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2018, 07:54:39 AM
I represented our club at the monthly CC meeting back in March or April when the main item on the clar was fixtures. The congestion in the fixture list was horrendous, and I'm.sure if you talk to your club delegates they will back that up. The reality is this October /November is the only time that it can be fitted in, and though that's definitely not perfect, at least it's football.

Also...you'll find that for the same reasons that other counties are in the exact  same boat and they run off their U21s in Oct/Nov too.  Difference is, these counties have a lot more pitches with floodlights than we do!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 08:31:40 AM
Might be difficult but as far as I can see there are 13 teams across the 3 division still in the hunt for honours, promotion or fighting relegation. There is a strong possibility that a lot of these teams will still be in the mix come the last weekend of October. Then there is also Ulster Championship for the Intermediate and Junior Champions towards the end of October.

That is a lot of clubs with business still to get sorted and that is not taking into account conditions impacting on these games being played. That is a lot of lads who have been busting a gut since last winter who are potentially going to be impacted with having to play two days running, on the same day or having to make a choice as to what games they play in.

And what if we get stinking weather at the end of Oct. Do we just tell clubs that is it, the leagues are cut off. Maybe this year is the exception but there are 4 teams in the hunt for promotion to Div 1 and the same for Div 2. A good few of these are still in their Championship. If you want to put fellas who have worked hard all year off this is a good way to go about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 08:49:44 AM
And maybe in that do we have to get a lot tighter on making clubs play their games when scheduled with the only valid reasons for call off being bereavement or pitch unplayable as well as oppositions pitches being unplayable at the same time. And the County then setting the refix date and not letting clubs start to meander without seeing the bigger pictute of what falls where. Maybe too much of a free for all at present and not enough leadership?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2018, 09:41:25 AM
Big win for creggan last night. Lisburn in junior final now and probably have a reasonable chance of winning it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2018, 09:41:25 AM
Big win for creggan last night. Lisburn in junior final now and probably have a reasonable chance of winning it.

Neither outcome in the slightest unexpected. Lisburn very good chance now especially given their form over the last few months. O Donnells having played Div 2 this year still my favorites despite a tough league campaign. Lot to be said for being hardened against stronger teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2018, 11:00:23 AM
Yeah. Depends whether it has dented o'donnels confidence in division 2 i guess. I wonder is that lisburn's first ever county final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 22, 2018, 11:27:33 AM
Lisburn won JFC  in 1990. They were beaten last year by Sarsfields  in final by 3 .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 10:46:23 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2018, 09:41:25 AM
Big win for creggan last night. Lisburn in junior final now and probably have a reasonable chance of winning it.

Neither outcome in the slightest unexpected. Lisburn very good chance now especially given their form over the last few months. O Donnells having played Div 2 this year still my favorites despite a tough league campaign. Lot to be said for being hardened against stronger teams.

Jesus O Ds gave Glenravel some tanking. Thought it would have been tight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 22, 2018, 03:36:10 PM
It was the other way about
Score is wrong on servasport !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2018, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 22, 2018, 11:27:33 AM
Lisburn won JFC  in 1990. They were beaten last year by Sarsfields  in final by 3 .

Ah.

Yeah delgany is right. O'donnels well beaten.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
Ha just change the names then in my earlier comment. And anyone needing predictions give me a shout after this mornings effort  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 04:13:56 PM
ODs more scarred than hardened by Div 2 at that rate though must have been as big a tanking as they have taken all season. Eamon Fyfe back in the Glenravel side?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 07:57:28 PM
Disappointed for Portglenone in what was always going to be a big ask againt a Galls team that still has plenty of know how.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2018, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 04:13:56 PM
ODs more scarred than hardened by Div 2 at that rate though must have been as big a tanking as they have taken all season. Eamon Fyfe back in the Glenravel side?

No Fyfe from what I saw. O'Dees 3 sent off inside 60secs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 22, 2018, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 04:13:56 PM
ODs more scarred than hardened by Div 2 at that rate though must have been as big a tanking as they have taken all season. Eamon Fyfe back in the Glenravel side?

No Fyfe from what I saw. O'Dees 3 sent off inside 60secs.

Did they do the Willie John McBride 99 call?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2018, 10:31:41 PM
Credit to St Galls, we simply had no answer to them today. They stamped their authority on the game early and didn't stop. Their football was classy...a reminder from some of their stalwarts why they were one of the best teams in the country just a few years ago. Credit where it's due they were too good for us when it mattered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2018, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 22, 2018, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 22, 2018, 04:13:56 PM
ODs more scarred than hardened by Div 2 at that rate though must have been as big a tanking as they have taken all season. Eamon Fyfe back in the Glenravel side?

No Fyfe from what I saw. O'Dees 3 sent off inside 60secs.

Did they do the Willie John McBride 99 call?

Couldn't stop punching and slabbering
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 23, 2018, 09:56:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2018, 10:31:41 PM
Credit to St Galls, we simply had no answer to them today. They stamped their authority on the game early and didn't stop. Their football was classy...a reminder from some of their stalwarts why they were one of the best teams in the country just a few years ago. Credit where it's due they were too good for us when it mattered.
Casement's were possibly a bit unlucky in the concession of two of the goals but failing to cope with the threat posed by MP was their undoing.....he scored 2-07.....leaves 1-04 for the rest and he did set up the third goal.

Where was MR2......he has been quiet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 23, 2018, 01:33:05 PM
Keeping his powder dry!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2018, 04:35:30 PM
Not like him to be off the internet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
Depressing weekend for those genuinly interested in seeing our county football team flourish. Stars of the weekend included Mick Mc Cann, Michael Magill, Justin Crozier, Mickey Pollock, Aodhan Gallagher, Sean Kelly, with honourable mentions to Paddy Cunningham, Tomas Mc Cann ( who was quiet but nailed on a few scores when the chips were down) Colm Brady and Andy Mc Clean.

None available to/for Lenny for all sorts of reasons. And an average age of 34 between them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2018, 08:21:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
Depressing weekend for those genuinly interested in seeing our county football team flourish. Stars of the weekend included Mick Mc Cann, Michael Magill, Justin Crozier, Mickey Pollock, Aodhan Gallagher, Sean Kelly, with honourable mentions to Paddy Cunningham, Tomas Mc Cann ( who was quiet but nailed on a few scores when the chips were down) Colm Brady and Andy Mc Clean.

None available to/for Lenny for all sorts of reasons. And an average age of 34 between them!

Would say your last line is the reason they aren't available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
I couldn't work out why cargin were clear favorites v champs LD and tonight's result showed there's not much between the teams. R LD not getting credit for winning it last year or is Damien Cassidy seen as a class manager....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 23, 2018, 08:51:39 PM
Cargin were in control at half time. 2 goals outa nowhere got Lámh Dhearg into a winning position but couldn't see it out.

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I couldn't work out why cargin were clear favorites v champs LD and tonight's result showed there's not much between the teams. R LD not getting credit for winning it last year or is Damien Cassidy seen as a class manager....
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 23, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Yeah thought Cargin should have powered on in second half but full credit to LD for getting back in and nearly snatching ot. Replay could go either way. Great finish by the ever green Paddy Cunningham.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
On reflection I could easily add Kevin Niblock and Ciaran Close to that group too. Quite frankly from a county perspective I'd have much preferred to see a dozen stand out performances from 24 year olds.

IMO Mick and Magill were standout today and Sean Kelly and Mickey Pollock yesterday. Apologies I didn't get to the two other QF's.

To be fair I liked Eoin Mc Keown and Eoghan Mc Cabe too, and Pearse Fitzsimons is definitely county standard too if he can be enticed into the fold. Creggans midfielder Conor Mc Cann should be getting a phone call too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 23, 2018, 09:54:39 PM
Thank god bannside isn't county manager 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 23, 2018, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
I couldn't work out why cargin were clear favorites v champs LD and tonight's result showed there's not much between the teams. R LD not getting credit for winning it last year or is Damien Cassidy seen as a class manager....

Sure will be easy money in the replay....if the Lamhs can find somebody other than PC to score....he had 2-01 from play..five pointed frees and the rest of the team shared 0-01
Cargin had ten from play.....2 from frees (40 and 50 yards) and 1 '45'.
Cargin, over the 60 MNS plus had just those two frees awarded over the half way line......superb LD rear guard actions 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 24, 2018, 06:40:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2018, 04:35:30 PM
Not like him to be off the internet!


I would say he's been advised to refrain from posting about specific games (only)  to be fair to him it might compromise his position in relation to officiating games and he would deserve a shot at the business end depending on how results go.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 24, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
Any reason why the St Endas game was moved to Wednesday and now to Friday evening?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2018, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 24, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
Any reason why the St Endas game was moved to Wednesday and now to Friday evening?

Soccer I heard.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 24, 2018, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2018, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 24, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
Any reason why the St Endas game was moved to Wednesday and now to Friday evening?

Soccer I heard.  ;)

Surely not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2018, 11:56:57 AM
It was a very different Cargin team on the pitch yesterday since the last time I saw them.  Hard to know were they very good or Lamhs very bad.  Cargin looked the better outfit but conceded a comical goal just after the break t give LD hope. Paddy C has still got the feet and Ryan M a handful but Cargin should have had that game done and dusted at half time. 

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 23, 2018, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
I couldn't work out why cargin were clear favorites v champs LD and tonight's result showed there's not much between the teams. R LD not getting credit for winning it last year or is Damien Cassidy seen as a class manager....

Sure will be easy money in the replay....if the Lamhs can find somebody other than PC to score....he had 2-01 from play..five pointed frees and the rest of the team shared 0-01
Cargin had ten from play.....2 from frees (40 and 50 yards) and 1 '45'.
Cargin, over the 60 MNS plus had just those two frees awarded over the half way line......superb LD rear guard actions 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on September 24, 2018, 12:04:51 PM
LD made great comeback, ok a soft first goal but second was well finished by Paddy C.  They miss conor murray hugely.  Mick mccann kept that cargin team in the game second half - crozier very solid.   Any update on replay venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 24, 2018, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2018, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 24, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
Any reason why the St Endas game was moved to Wednesday and now to Friday evening?

Soccer I heard.  ;)

Surely not.
Gerard Crosseys Mother died, funeral tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 24, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
Due to the death of a players mother.

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 24, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
Any reason why the St Endas game was moved to Wednesday and now to Friday evening?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2018, 01:39:50 PM
Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 24, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
On reflection I could easily add Kevin Niblock and Ciaran Close to that group too. Quite frankly from a county perspective I'd have much preferred to see a dozen stand out performances from 24 year olds.

IMO Mick and Magill were standout today and Sean Kelly and Mickey Pollock yesterday. Apologies I didn't get to the two other QF's.

To be fair I liked Eoin Mc Keown and Eoghan Mc Cabe too, and Pearse Fitzsimons is definitely county standard too if he can be enticed into the fold. Creggans midfielder Conor Mc Cann should be getting a phone call too.

So, if the best players on show at the weekend average 34, then it figures that antrim should have been competing for Ulster and also clubs for all-irelands in the past 5-10 years.  8)

Ps. What's it going to be like in 5-10 years time, both in county and club.
The cracks have been appearing in minor and u21 grades for the past few years, and their development seems more political than sport orientated
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2018, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 24, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
On reflection I could easily add Kevin Niblock and Ciaran Close to that group too. Quite frankly from a county perspective I'd have much preferred to see a dozen stand out performances from 24 year olds.

IMO Mick and Magill were standout today and Sean Kelly and Mickey Pollock yesterday. Apologies I didn't get to the two other QF's.

To be fair I liked Eoin Mc Keown and Eoghan Mc Cabe too, and Pearse Fitzsimons is definitely county standard too if he can be enticed into the fold. Creggans midfielder Conor Mc Cann should be getting a phone call too.

So, if the best players on show at the weekend average 34, then it figures that antrim should have been competing for Ulster and also clubs for all-irelands in the past 5-10 years.  8)

Ps. What's it going to be like in 5-10 years time, both in county and club.
The cracks have been appearing in minor and u21 grades for the past few years, and their development seems more political than sport orientated

Well they did reach an ulster final within that time frame. Goodness knows where they could have gone without Frank D's working holiday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 25, 2018, 11:42:42 AM
Anyone know who won the U14 SA Football League final between St.Paul's and Sarsfields recently?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2018, 04:45:21 PM
Latest championship betting from "Toals"

9/4 St Gall's
11/4 Creggan
3/1 Cargin
4/1 St John's
8/1 Lamh Dhearg

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 25, 2018, 06:31:27 PM
As predicted this year is the widest open for many years. All 5 teams left still harbour notions of outright glory. Long time since we had that scenario. Can only be good for Antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2018, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 25, 2018, 06:31:27 PM
As predicted this year is the widest open for many years. All 5 teams left still harbour notions of outright glory. Long time since we had that scenario. Can only be good for Antrim football.

Its more of an indictment of how far St Galls and Cargin have fell in recent years to the levels of LD, Creggan and St Johns. Football quality is worse make no mistake,  punctuated by the odd glimpse of class from the over 30s you mentioned in a previous post BS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
There's no doubt about that Spike. The St Galls team of the noughties ( and Cargin usually werent too far off them to be fair) would win this year's championship at a hack canter. Then compete at higher levels with the best in the land. You have to appreciate class when you see it....problem now is....how long will it be until we see their likes again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 26, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
The current U12 to Minor age group at Aghagallon isn't too bad.....  8)

This years U12 Div 1 SW Winners, U14 Div 1 SW Winners, U16 Shield Winners, Minor Div 1 Winners and quite a few MacRory and Hogans threw in for good measure this year.

Should be the makings of a good senior team from 2020 onwards.......  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2018, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 26, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
There's no doubt about that Spike. The St Galls team of the noughties ( and Cargin usually werent too far off them to be fair) would win this year's championship at a hack canter. Then compete at higher levels with the best in the land. You have to appreciate class when you see it....problem now is....how long will it be until we see their likes again!

Like everything in life BS, we don't appreciate it until its gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2018, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 26, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
The current U12 to Minor age group at Aghagallon isn't too bad.....  8)

This years U12 Div 1 SW Winners, U14 Div 1 SW Winners, U16 Shield Winners, Minor Div 1 Winners and quite a few MacRory and Hogans threw in for good measure this year.

Should be the makings of a good senior team from 2020 onwards.......  :P

More like 2025 ....... what do we do in the meantime??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2018, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 26, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
The current U12 to Minor age group at Aghagallon isn't too bad.....  8)

This years U12 Div 1 SW Winners, U14 Div 1 SW Winners, U16 Shield Winners, Minor Div 1 Winners and quite a few MacRory and Hogans threw in for good measure this year.

Should be the makings of a good senior team from 2020 onwards.......  :P

was at the final between ourselves. Some great wee players there on both sides.

same group won the hurling final the following week against Ballycastle after ET. Potential double senior champions in 2020 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 26, 2018, 03:46:52 PM
Was a decent game alright.

One of your midfielders was particularly impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 26, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
The current U12 to Minor age group at Aghagallon isn't too bad.....  8)

This years U12 Div 1 SW Winners, U14 Div 1 SW Winners, U16 Shield Winners, Minor Div 1 Winners and quite a few MacRory and Hogans threw in for good measure this year.

Should be the makings of a good senior team from 2020 onwards.......  :P

What age do they start drinking buckfast by the gallon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 27, 2018, 08:33:07 AM
Brush their teeth with it from the age of 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 28, 2018, 06:35:32 PM
Cargin LD replay should be a good game on Sunday. Any predictions or injury news out there.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 29, 2018, 08:24:30 AM
Aghagallon have been stong at underage for a few years now and the conveyor belt seems to keep producing. Next step is to turn it into senior success. Still a big challenge against many established teams but have a better chance than some. Right now potential as opposed to proven but great work nonetheless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 29, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 29, 2018, 08:24:30 AM
Aghagallon have been stong at underage for a few years now and the conveyor belt seems to keep producing. Next step is to turn it into senior success. Still a big challenge against many established teams but have a better chance than some. Right now potential as opposed to proven but great work nonetheless.

Aghagallon are successful already; and still have more potential.
They are a comfortable div.1 team, and may do the double in 3-5 years, all on their new pitch.

Ps. Cargin will not make the same mistake as last week.

Pss the weekends big match is in ballycastle.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 29, 2018, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 29, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 29, 2018, 08:24:30 AM
Aghagallon have been stong at underage for a few years now and the conveyor belt seems to keep producing. Next step is to turn it into senior success. Still a big challenge against many established teams but have a better chance than some. Right now potential as opposed to proven but great work nonetheless.

Aghagallon are successful already; and still have more potential.
They are a comfortable div.1 team, and may do the double in 3-5 years, all on their new pitch.

Ps. Cargin will not make the same mistake as last week.

Pss the weekends big match is in ballycastle.

The last few years have been a great success but the challenge I am talking about now is not to view success as getting to and staying in Div 1 but rather aiming and pushing to be the very best. Good underage structures is key to this but so is converting it to senior success. Or could just settled for being a Div 1 team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
I see cargin 1/2 and LD 2/1 which is closer than last week in the bookies.Cargin were super in first half but they seriously panicked in the 2nd half even though they have some very experienced players - surprised me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
I see cargin 1/2 and LD 2/1 which is closer than last week in the bookies.Cargin were super in first half but they seriously panicked in the 2nd half even though they have some very experienced players - surprised me
The bookmakers are in the know.... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2018, 06:47:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
I see cargin 1/2 and LD 2/1 which is closer than last week in the bookies.Cargin were super in first half but they seriously panicked in the 2nd half even though they have some very experienced players - surprised me
The bookmakers are in the know.... ;)
that's why they are rich and I'm skint!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2018, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2018, 06:47:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
I see cargin 1/2 and LD 2/1 which is closer than last week in the bookies.Cargin were super in first half but they seriously panicked in the 2nd half even though they have some very experienced players - surprised me
The bookmakers are in the know.... ;)
that's why they are rich and I'm skint!
Yep some were surprised.....but Cargin were focused on the league... ;)
And when such, and the O'Cahan cup were lost I think, they decided to give their best in championship..... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2018, 07:57:12 PM
Calm down cb nothing is won yet!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 01, 2018, 10:42:49 AM
Anyone got any idea of when and where this weekends semi finals are being played? Nothing on county website but one would assume decisions have been made and clubs notified at this stage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on October 01, 2018, 11:35:13 AM
I'd say the delay is in sorting something out for St Johns, they are due to play the hurling replay as well this weekend.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on October 01, 2018, 12:07:30 PM
I'm new to this. In the past I would have asked this question you've just posted of the Antrim County Web Discussion Board. I see it has gone.

It is crazy that we have two teams in a county final and we cannot make a decision or give information to the participants as to the fixture specifics, with somewhere between 4-6 days until the game (county fixtures states "5-7 Oct"). Date in itself would be a minimum, instead of this flowery three day window. Like it or not, players in this modern era may have to arrange a day off work, organise childcare and so on.

It highlights the ramshackle operation that is the current Antrim CCC, and the poor leadership under which it appears to be operated. There can be no excuse for lack of basic planning. We could learn from the organisers of the Antrim LGFA!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 01, 2018, 12:11:39 PM
St Johns will not be asked to play football and hurling the same weekend. Even at that how long does it take to come up with a decision and there are 3 other semi finals pencilled in for the weekend. Amateur in name and amateur in organisation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
i was told yday at the match that the hurling is set for next week in Dunloy. Not officially confirmed as of yet on the site but im taking that as gospel until someone says otherwise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
The tyrone semis  fixtures were on the website yesterday a couple of hours after the last 1/4 final had finished
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 01, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Tyrone only amateur in name :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 01, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 01, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Tyrone only amateur in name :)
Cargin v Galls on Sat 4.30 6th Oct (Corrigan)

Creggan v St John's on Sunday 7th Oct at 4.30 (Glenavy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 01, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 01, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 01, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Tyrone only amateur in name :)
Cargin v Galls on Sat 4.30 6th Oct (Corrigan)

Creggan v St John's on Sunday 7th Oct at 4.30 (Glenavy

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 01, 2018, 10:13:49 PM
Is the Gort Na Mona vs Dunloy game still on tomorrow evening. Should be a good close game maybe see a Dunloy reaction to losing the hurling.

My prediction Dunloy by 2 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 01, 2018, 11:20:46 PM
Any betting for it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 02, 2018, 07:52:12 AM
boyle sport - they have dunloy at 6/4. I don't think dunloy will be able to break down Gort can only see the hurling result affecting them negatively - However I could be wrong!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2018, 11:23:42 AM
hard to know how to call the nights game. Id say we will have a full compliment available now the hurling is over. Im quietly confident we can get a result this evening but under no illusions of how tight it will be.

please god no more rain or wind. lol got enough of that on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 02, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2018, 11:23:42 AM
hard to know how to call the nights game. Id say we will have a full compliment available now the hurling is over. Im quietly confident we can get a result this evening but under no illusions of how tight it will be.

please god no more rain or wind. lol got enough of that on sunday.

Will the management start the hurlers who had a match on Sunday probably had a nights drinking and haven't played much football all year - over the committed footballers who played the majority of the league apart from the 4/5 games the hurlers were made available ? Depending on the team Dunloy put out will depend on the outcome of the game IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron123 on October 02, 2018, 12:06:55 PM
was told the likes of woody, nigel etc are not playing football this year! Could be wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2018, 10:25:11 PM
Late goal won it for gnm apparently. Wonder how late?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 02, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Third minute of injury time. It looked like the Gorts red card was going to cost them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2018, 07:30:04 AM
Complete sickener last night. this has not been a good few days with both the hurlers and footballers out inside 3 days of each other. thought we had done enough to win it but gave it away and they scored the goal right at the death.

pretty depressing but thats life. some you win some you dont.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 03, 2018, 07:49:08 AM
Some change from last year DR. If you had the team that finished starting the game was yours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2018, 08:58:16 AM
thats true BS. but sure its the joy of being a dual player, you cant train like hell for the hurling and football and be fresh for both in the same short period. its one or the other.

hurling is the main code in our club and football will be a second for the most of them young lads.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 03, 2018, 10:10:52 AM
Dunloy improved significantly in the 2nd half with the introduction of 4/5 of the lads who had played hurling on Sunday. Started to win a few balls in midfield when they brought the big man in there as it was killing them before hand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 03, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
It was the classic case of trying to keep the ball in midfield to run the clock down
One misplaced pass a quick break and bang the ball is in the net
Heartbreaking for Dunloy who looked well beat at half time at 8-4 down but had a great 2nd half
Draw would have ben a fair result TBH
Enjoyable game for the neutral
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 03, 2018, 11:12:31 AM
Toals fancy an all country senior final.....

4/6 Cargin St Gall's 6/4

8/11 Creggan St John's 11/8

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on October 03, 2018, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2018, 08:58:16 AM
thats true BS. but sure its the joy of being a dual player, you cant train like hell for the hurling and football and be fresh for both in the same short period. its one or the other.

hurling is the main code in our club and football will be a second for the most of them young lads.

Not trying to rub salt in the wounds, but Slaughtneill manage it very well, how come you don't?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2018, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on October 03, 2018, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2018, 08:58:16 AM
thats true BS. but sure its the joy of being a dual player, you cant train like hell for the hurling and football and be fresh for both in the same short period. its one or the other.

hurling is the main code in our club and football will be a second for the most of them young lads.

Not trying to rub salt in the wounds, but Slaughtneill manage it very well, how come you don't?

tbh football took a massive back seat for a long time in our club during the hurling sucess. there wasnt the same emphasis put into it as the hurling and as a result the team went into a decline from D1 to D2 and then to D3 for a number of years. A seriously lack of commitment from everyone meant it was way down the pecking order.

It took a few people to bring it back up and around and with development groups now in the club for all 3 codes and dedicated people involved in them it meant that the 3 games were getting good imput and coaching.

It might take a few years but at the moment theres a good sustained growth of the game again in the club and getting good numbers at all the grades again. You'll always get a back year with birthdays but thats part and parcel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on October 03, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2018, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on October 03, 2018, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2018, 08:58:16 AM
thats true BS. but sure its the joy of being a dual player, you cant train like hell for the hurling and football and be fresh for both in the same short period. its one or the other.

hurling is the main code in our club and football will be a second for the most of them young lads.

Not trying to rub salt in the wounds, but Slaughtneill manage it very well, how come you don't?

tbh football took a massive back seat for a long time in our club during the hurling sucess. there wasnt the same emphasis put into it as the hurling and as a result the team went into a decline from D1 to D2 and then to D3 for a number of years. A seriously lack of commitment from everyone meant it was way down the pecking order.

It took a few people to bring it back up and around and with development groups now in the club for all 3 codes and dedicated people involved in them it meant that the 3 games were getting good imput and coaching.

It might take a few years but at the moment theres a good sustained growth of the game again in the club and getting good numbers at all the grades again. You'll always get a back year with birthdays but thats part and parcel.

That's good to hear, can't beat hard work and committed folk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 03, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Hearing Cargin v St Gall's has been switched to Creggan....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 03, 2018, 04:06:58 PM
Yes game has been switched
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2018, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Hearing Cargin v St Gall's has been switched to Creggan....

Good!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 03, 2018, 09:01:24 PM
Slaughtneill are a freak. They manage the two codes brilliantly and certainly dual clubs could try amd learn a lot from them but even by following their blue print the commitment there is incredible and would be the hardest bit to replicate.

Dunloy always had top quality footballers and would probably have been a div 1 club for the majority of the last 30 yrs had they all been fully committed to football.

The foundations at the club seem stronger than ever so it will be interesting to see where they go on the football front in the next 10 yrs plus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 03, 2018, 09:37:50 PM
Eoghan Rua 1-11 Slaughtneil 0-13.......


Big shock in Derry.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 03, 2018, 09:45:25 PM
Yeah to a point but there is only so long they can keep going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 03, 2018, 11:33:09 PM
A fella was telling me tonight st galls players were getting petrol money from county board for their semi on saturday. What way does that work? Was it only cause game was switched? Otherwise this bound to cause problems doown the line in both codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 04, 2018, 07:32:49 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 03, 2018, 11:33:09 PM
A fella was telling me tonight st galls players were getting petrol money from county board for their semi on saturday. What way does that work? Was it only cause game was switched? Otherwise this bound to cause problems doown the line in both codes

Surely not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 04, 2018, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 03, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Hearing Cargin v St Gall's has been switched to Creggan....

Why was it changed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2018, 09:27:58 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 03, 2018, 11:33:09 PM
A fella was telling me tonight st galls players were getting petrol money from county board for their semi on saturday. What way does that work? Was it only cause game was switched? Otherwise this bound to cause problems doown the line in both codes

Was he sniffing the said petrol?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 04, 2018, 09:44:36 AM
That's the JP McManus money put to good use then!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 04, 2018, 09:44:36 AM
That's the JP McManus money put to good use then!

Prob nonsense to be honest. Ones saying about the JP money and the promotion of the games in belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2018, 10:57:45 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 04, 2018, 09:44:36 AM
That's the JP McManus money put to good use then!

Prob nonsense to be honest. Ones saying about the JP money and the promotion of the games in belfast
Indeed it is nonsense to suggest County board supplied petrol money........in fact the Cargin players had a collection and sent the £ up to Milltown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 04, 2018, 10:59:29 AM
I've a 5 gallon drum of red here if needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 04, 2018, 02:27:57 PM
I'm told this all squarely down to St Galls, they have been given numerous options ( too many) and because there is a function at Corrigan that evening all clubs asked to agree to bring forward the times, all agreed I hear but St Galls so now the matches are split and Galls still playing silly buggers. So the minors loose out playing before seniors and supporters have to travel, as per usual people in positions of authority make their own decisions without consideration for minors and supporters and games in the city!!! . No doubt the deflection tactics will start and its the fault of the county etc etc....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 04, 2018, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 04, 2018, 02:27:57 PM
I'm told this all squarely down to St Galls, they have been given numerous options ( too many) and because there is a function at Corrigan that evening all clubs asked to agree to bring forward the times, all agreed I hear but St Galls so now the matches are split and Galls still playing silly buggers. So the minors loose out playing before seniors and supporters have to travel, as per usual people in positions of authority make their own decisions without consideration for minors and supporters and games in the city!!! . No doubt the deflection tactics will start and its the fault of the county etc etc....

It would depend what was known when.

Speaking of which why is Junior final no longer before the other semi. I would have went to Glenavy had the two games been together. Will prob go watch Cargin St Galls now instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2018, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 04, 2018, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 04, 2018, 02:27:57 PM
I'm told this all squarely down to St Galls, they have been given numerous options ( too many) and because there is a function at Corrigan that evening all clubs asked to agree to bring forward the times, all agreed I hear but St Galls so now the matches are split and Galls still playing silly buggers. So the minors loose out playing before seniors and supporters have to travel, as per usual people in positions of authority make their own decisions without consideration for minors and supporters and games in the city!!! . No doubt the deflection tactics will start and its the fault of the county etc etc....

It would depend what was known when.

Speaking of which why is Junior final no longer before the other semi. I would have went to Glenavy had the two games been together. Will prob go watch Cargin St Galls now instead.

Junior final is at 1.30pm and the other semi is 4.30pm. Changing rooms possibly or extra time maybe is a worry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Weekend predictions. Let's hear yours

St Galls v Cargin - St Galls by 2
Creggan v St Johns - Creggan by 2
Gort Na Mona v Ballymena - Gorts by 3
St Endas v Moneyglass - St Endas by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
So st galls minors and seniors playing at different venues? I smell a rat. This makes no sense. All sorts of rumours going about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 04, 2018, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
So st galls minors and seniors playing at different venues? I smell a rat. This makes no sense. All sorts of rumours going about

We need MR2 to enlighten......has he emigrated ????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 05, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Weekend predictions. Let's hear yours

St Galls v Cargin - St Galls by 2
Creggan v St Johns - Creggan by 2
Gort Na Mona v Ballymena - Gorts by 3
St Endas v Moneyglass - St Endas by 5

Wouldn't disagree with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2018, 08:41:33 AM
Not sure creggan will beat st johns. Be nice to see them in a final for a change though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 06, 2018, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: breakingball on October 05, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Weekend predictions. Let's hear yours

St Galls v Cargin - St Galls by 2
Creggan v St Johns - Creggan by 2
Gort Na Mona v Ballymena - Gorts by 3
St Endas v Moneyglass - St Endas by 5

Wouldn't disagree with that.
St Johns a better championship team than Creggan so fancy them. Cargin, if not carrying any injuries, will be better prepared than St Galls for a semi final after the 2 games against LD. Both matches very even though - great to see. Gorts just and St Enda's comfortably as I've seen them in Div 1 a few times this year - very fit and committed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 11:05:01 AM
Quote from: farset on October 06, 2018, 09:09:19 AM
Fancy Gort na Mona today v Ballymena. Dont think you all gave them enough credit getting to where they are and how well they seem to have done this year instead lamenting Dunloy.

St Galls have been solid this year. Should be a cracker today between themselves and Cargin. Love watching Mick McCann play. Worth the entry fee alone but think St Galls will pip it.

Fancy the Johnnies. Creggan can't seem to get their Championship monkey off their backs.

Match tomorrow Moneyglass and St Endas. I hope Moneyglass beat them. St Endas taking the easy option playing Intermediate while playing Division 1. They should win the whole thing but cheating themselves in my opinion.

Seen that Tipperary were doing this £20 ticket to watch all championship games at a weekend. We could definitely take a leaf from that book instead of what we currently have.

We could take a leaf out of most counties books. Guys who organise our games have been making a balls of it for a while now. Totally lacking any sort of foresight. Just look at how long it took them to fix this weekends games then no sooner had they them fixed they started chopping and changing again. The St Galls debacle is typical of the usual incompetence on show. And I reckon when U21 gets going we will see other clubs having to make calls as to where they field their strongest teams. In a county this size surely we can find a couple of capable administrators?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 12:57:21 PM
I can only see one clear favourite in this weekends games and that is St Endas based on a solid season in Div 1.

Any of the 4 semi finalists at Senior could be county champions IMO. Creggan perhaps are the one team that need to take the biggest step but they are capable if they get the mental side of it right. Still I am predicting an all city affair in the final.

At intermediate Ballymena have the players to cause an upset if it clicks. GNM a very well drilled side with a couple of excellent forwards so will take a bit of beating. Still I am going to predict Ballymena to cause an upset and set up a decider with St Endas.

Junior final another very difficult game to call but Lisburn ran a very good Sarsfields very close last year and will not want to leave empty handed two years running. Last years experience may well be the difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2018, 02:58:38 PM
Cuchullian's 2-07
St Brigid's 0-11


What odds a country minor final.....JS..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 03:39:22 PM
No upset from Ballymena. Missing a couple of key players did not help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 06, 2018, 06:13:55 PM
Cargin goal last kick to win by 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
Cargin 21yd free to win with last kick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 06, 2018, 06:27:48 PM
What a finish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2018, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 03:39:22 PM
No upset from Ballymena. Missing a couple of key players did not help.
Who were they missing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 07:05:04 PM
Quote from: farset on October 06, 2018, 06:57:00 PM
Again. Give the Gorts a bit of credit lol. It wont kill you.

Haha Im on the wind after the Dinloy comment. GNM the well drilled and skilful team I said they were this morning. Ballymena missing a couple but what team ever gets to field what they would view as their strongest 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2018, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 03:39:22 PM
No upset from Ballymena. Missing a couple of key players did not help.
Who were they missing?

Pizza a big loss
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2018, 05:44:17 PM
Are Cargin playing with a keeper?
Giving themselves an uphill battle.

Is there any other way HS......Cargin are well used to uphill battles.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 06, 2018, 08:43:34 PM
What a game in creggan tonight. Privilege to see the old foes clashing. The auld hands are still the best players in the county. Cargins dodgey defence allied with a superb niblock and a relentless cargin gave a wonderful spectacle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 06, 2018, 08:43:43 PM
Such an enjoyable game in Creggan today, with what can only be described as a stunning goal from Tomas Mc Cann from a  free kick to win the game. Cargin the better team over the hour, but the St Galls goals looked like they had it won, they will wonder how they conceded the goal with the game literally over, so many players on the line and still it hit the roof of the net. Final word on the ref, his decision to haul back for a free when a Cargin player was ready score a goal three minutes into injury, which would have won the game for Cargin,  when he had signaled advantage was as a bad a decision as you will ever see. I said to my friend if Cargin loose I was worried if the ref would have gotten off the pitch, as he simply had denied them that chance to win it.

Great game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 06, 2018, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2018, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2018, 02:58:38 PM
Cuchullian's 2-07
St Brigid's 0-11


What odds a country minor final.....JS..?
Is St. Gall's beating Aghagallon a big shock? There seems to be a lot of talk about these Aghagallon teams coming through, a hope they'll make the transition to senior and be a real force.
I know they pipped us in an U21 final a couple of years ago but apart from that what else have they won at Minor & U21?

No big shock today HS. St galls never easy beat at any level. Fair play to them. Should be a good final.

Whos "us" they pipped at u21 if you dont mind me asking? Think they beat one of those belfast almagation teams in that final? They also played an almagation team in the minor final last year. A few st teresas players the standouts on that team.

Underage success is no real gauge anyhow. Been a while since cargin won an underage title id say but they find themselves back in another senior final today.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2018, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2018, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2018, 02:58:38 PM
Cuchullian's 2-07
St Brigid's 0-11


What odds a country minor final.....JS..?
Is St. Gall's beating Aghagallon a big shock? There seems to be a lot of talk about these Aghagallon teams coming through, a hope they'll make the transition to senior and be a real force.
I know they pipped us in an U21 final a couple of years ago but apart from that what else have they won at Minor & U21?

Aghagallon are doing great work at underage but we have heard that song before. Challenge is now to take the next step. Good luck to them. Would be good to see a new face in the mix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 07, 2018, 12:19:12 AM
8 antrim players getting to the pinacle of schools football and receiving a hogan cup medal in croke park might explain some of the hype in what otherwise is an absolute bleak outlook for the county? Care to explain the rest?

Mainstay of johnnies 3 in a row team on verge of competing in county finals in both codes. Hype justified.

Congratulations to st teresas/o donnells/mitchells/pearses in reaching county b final again along with rossa. Adh mor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2018, 12:37:00 AM
One of the best club matches in recent years ( in any county ) and all the chat is about minor teams
This was some game end to end stuff no dirty slaps just great football from both teams
Conceding 4-10 obviously won't win a county final so there's work to be done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 07, 2018, 12:42:53 AM
Brilliant game. Absolute credit to both teams. Trojan efforts.

Been mentioned here before, all the top players were over 30. Not to take away from the efforts on the day but long term it aint great. Mention underage achivements on here and it only hype. Fair plau to st galls and cargin tho. Be a while before we see their likes again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 07, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
Superb game today by two very well drilled teams. As good a spectacle as you would see anywhere. I had to leave six or seven minutes early and missed Cargins late comeback. Credit to both teams that match will be remembered for many years.

Marty Kane would strengthen the Cargin defence and now John Carron back too gives Mr Cassidy a selection headache of the kind he wont mind for the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
I take your point Mickey but there were quite a few under 30's who were excellent today  too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 07, 2018, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 07, 2018, 12:19:12 AM
8 antrim players getting to the pinacle of schools football and receiving a hogan cup medal in croke park might explain some of the hype in what otherwise is an absolute bleak outlook for the county? Care to explain the rest?

Mainstay of johnnies 3 in a row team on verge of competing in county finals in both codes. Hype justified.

Congratulations to st teresas/o donnells/mitchells/pearses in reaching county b final again along with rossa. Adh mor
Rossa in the minor B Championship and didn't play in any league this year! what's that all about? should they be allowed to do that? if all clubs decided to play championships only where would that leave us.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2018, 06:44:11 PM
Massive win for Creggan.  Glenravel won junior and St endas beat money glass.

Creggan in their first final in 41 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 07, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
Couldn't believe St John's played one man up front during the entire second half with a huge wind at their back. Having said that, Creggan looked good value for their win to set up a tasty first ever all country final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2018, 07:29:02 PM
How are the younger creggan guys looking? Kevin small and liam quinn look like decent county prospects.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2018, 07:40:19 PM
Duneane parish county final.  MR2 must be in meltdown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 07, 2018, 07:42:31 PM
A South west treble is still on course then!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 07, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2018, 07:40:19 PM
Duneane parish county final.  MR2 must be in meltdown.

MR2 has gone AWOL........Foreign Legion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 08, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
Cargin v St Galls was a wonderful game.  Credit to both teams and creggans pitch looked in fantastic shape.
Creggan got by st Johns without too much worry -  hard to determine outcome of final but it should not be lacking intensity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2018, 08:58:23 AM
very pleased with our Minors winning at the weekend. Sort of helped after a bad week with the both senior teams. Thats a second minor final in 3 years for the footballers with the hurlers in their 4th final in a row. Nice to see them progress along with the underage development in the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2018, 09:08:16 AM
DR there has never been any shortage of good footballers in Dunloy - it's just keeping them at it it seems!(from the outside anyway).

otbar I wasn't at the creggan game but it didn't seem like they won "without too much worry". Seemed tight enough?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 08, 2018, 09:23:29 AM
The conditions were horrendous.  exceptionally strong wind which tends to keep it a low scoring affair.  St Johns had chances to put pressure on without a doubt but it would of been a huge upset if the nipped it at the end.  Creggan maintained that gap fighting against a strong wind.  St johns left one man up and should of went for broke but did not.  Fitzpatrick was a big threat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2018, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2018, 09:08:16 AM
DR there has never been any shortage of good footballers in Dunloy - it's just keeping them at it it seems!(from the outside anyway).

otbar I wasn't at the creggan game but it didn't seem like they won "without too much worry". Seemed tight enough?

Aye there still is a drop off after minor for a lot of the young lads to either not play anymore or to just concentrate on the hurling itself. Hurlng will always be the main code in the club but its nice to see that we're still producing good footballers along side them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 08, 2018, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 07, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
Couldn't believe St John's played one man up front during the entire second half with a huge wind at their back. Having said that, Creggan looked good value for their win to set up a tasty first ever all country final.

Couldn't believe that either, bad, bad tactics, with a gale like that they should have had 3 up attacking, it cost them big time. But Creggan were the better team in the second half as St Johns handed them easy possession to carry up against that wind. Its funny but that daft goal separated the teams. Delighted for Creggan. St Johns won't won anything playing tactics like that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 08, 2018, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2018, 07:40:19 PM
Duneane parish county final.  MR2 must be in meltdown.

MR2 has gone AWOL........Foreign Legion?

He's been slabbering on other pages.. Maybe censorship.. :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 08, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Referees should:
• Not communicate with the media relating to any refereeing matters arising from any game.

I'm assuming that would include this forum!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2018, 04:32:28 PM
MR2 probably lying low till the hurling and football championships are over in case he gets the nod to perform the man in the middle role. Fair play to be in with that shout, a thumbs up from me anyway for commitment.

St Galls lost absolutely nothing in defeat on Saturday, contributing to a classic, with eight players in their mid thirties. Something I fear we will never see again in our lifetime. They mightnt have won the championship but showed us patches of football that took them to elite status at national club level.

And 100% fair play to Cargin for the comeback of all time!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 09, 2018, 07:48:26 AM
Yes Chapeau to Cargin and St Galls for that match. Really was one to remember, two teams going at it was a joy to behold and the resolution of both sides was admirable.

Final will be a different affair, can Cargin be as reckless against an organised Creggan team?  Creggan dont have the stars that st galls have but work so hard for each other and do the simple things well. Their form starts them as favourites but can Cargin's returning contingent make the difference?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 09, 2018, 08:42:04 AM
creggan surely be favourites going in.  Consistent all year - o cahan cup and pretty much league in bag also.  They work hard at a defensive system leaking little but cargin have plenty of talent to counteract this.  Was chatting to quite a few creggan players and they have it in the bag already which may be their undoing.  I heard whimpers of st johns for final location. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:04:11 AM
Certainly favourites going on form and accomplishments this season, Cargin will hope the recent championship defeats inflicted on Creggan in recent years will dampen their confidence.  Creggan won't give much away but are one dimensional which means they are easier to analyse. Cargin have more problems to fix but probably feel there is greater room for improvement. Will be interesting to see the respective approaches.

Corrigan as a final venue would be utter stupidity. City location for two SW Teams = less attendance = less revenue = people thinking the Antrim County board are idiots
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 09, 2018, 09:12:27 AM
Could not agree more around the venue.  The first location was ahoghil as it accommodates a crowd and attracts the derry supporters who would have interests in both teams.  Glenavy was the second option based on past few years but parking an issue and may as well travel to belfast.  Portglenone could hold claims to it as well - great setup.

Two good teams, two good managers, parish derby.   tick, tick, tick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2018, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 08, 2018, 04:32:28 PM
MR2 probably lying low till the hurling and football championships are over in case he gets the nod to perform the man in the middle role. Fair play to be in with that shout, a thumbs up from me anyway for commitment.

St Galls lost absolutely nothing in defeat on Saturday, contributing to a classic, with eight players in their mid thirties. Something I fear we will never see again in our lifetime. They mightnt have won the championship but showed us patches of football that took them to elite status at national club level.

And 100% fair play to Cargin for the comeback of all time!
Sounds like you need a hankie BS.....and you can use it again if an unlikely umpire's position becomes available
Wonder why you seem to require the "fair play to them" prefix when making reference to Cargin.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2018, 03:03:42 PM
If they take this anywhere else other than Ahoghill they need a good kick in the stones
10/15 minutes up the road for everyone
IFC in corrigan will make sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2018, 03:03:42 PM
If they take this anywhere else other than Ahoghill they need a good kick in the stones
10/15 minutes up the road for everyone
IFC in corrigan will make sense

Agreed Portglenone might also be in with a shout great set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
Portglenone or even whitehill could be good shouts too
Ahoghill has the experience of having had it before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
Hearing plans to play Minor A final before IFC final at Corrigan Park. Surely Dunloy would like it a bit more neutral
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 09, 2018, 06:23:50 PM
Glenavy best pitch in the county IMO and done a great job of hosting the final last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 09, 2018, 07:33:38 PM
Have not been down round Portglenones new pitch yet. Did they build up some vantage viewing points around it? By all accounts great job done in every other way.

Would guess it will be Ahoghill though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
Quote from: farset on October 09, 2018, 05:45:43 PM
Corrigan best surface though!! I'd want to be playing there.

Probably is but surely geography has to be taken into consideration
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 09, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
Quote from: farset on October 09, 2018, 05:45:43 PM
Corrigan best surface though!! I'd want to be playing there.

Probably is but surely geography has to be taken into consideration

Big call saying any particular surface best when there a number of excellent surfaces out there right now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 10, 2018, 08:31:04 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
Hearing plans to play Minor A final before IFC final at Corrigan Park. Surely Dunloy would like it a bit more neutral

nothing would surprise me with our county  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 10, 2018, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 12:36:22 PM
If Casement Park sitting ready to be played on, would you still want it played at Ahoghill?

No, why would anyone not want it played at what would be a wonderful venue if its ever built?

But thats all what could be.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2018, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 07:48:26 AM
Yes Chapeau to Cargin and St Galls for that match. Really was one to remember, two teams going at it was a joy to behold and the resolution of both sides was admirable.

Final will be a different affair, can Cargin be as reckless against an organised Creggan team?  Creggan dont have the stars that st galls have but work so hard for each other and do the simple things well. Their form starts them as favourites but can Cargin's returning contingent make the difference?

Toals do not agree with you........but sure they go to lots of games  8) and go;

4/9 Cargin
13/8 Creggan

Handy money......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 10, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
I'm just talking about the surface and it being in Belfast.  You wouldn't complain travelling for the surface there. Corrigan every bit as good as what Casement was in my opinion.

That said I always remember the same people slabbering about having to play in Casement for hurling County finals involving two NA clubs.

naw your grand, we dont want to play in corrigan. Ahoghill will do us fine or even somewhere else halfway between until we get a county ground. until then we will continue 'slabbering' about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 10, 2018, 04:17:02 PM
Yeah look in this instance Ahoghill makes sense. Randalstown would have been perfect as well had they decent vantage.

No need to ask supporters to travel to Belfast when nothing more available there right now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
I'm just talking about the surface and it being in Belfast.  You wouldn't complain travelling for the surface there. Corrigan every bit as good as what Casement was in my opinion.

That said I always remember the same people slabbering about having to play in Casement for hurling County finals involving two NA clubs.

naw your grand, we dont want to play in corrigan. Ahoghill will do us fine or even somewhere else halfway between until we get a county ground. until then we will continue 'slabbering' about it.

Well if, as I've heard, you are going to be playing your minor final before the IFC final, you'd hardly expect your slabbering to work with 3 Belfast clubs involved.

What 3 Belfast clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2018, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 08:47:30 PM
I'm new to this so don't really know the characters but of course St Endas are Belfast.
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Afraid not, St Enda's play in South West competitions....including O'Cahan, Mc Cormick, as well as Laverty and Breslin cups and participate in all juvenile leagues (under12 to under-18.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 10, 2018, 09:37:31 PM
St Endas from a competing point of view are a SW club but location is more Belfast so its really 50/50 for me.

Reading a fine article on social media about these fights during/after matches etc and about the passion from clubs. It did make a lot of sense. Our PRO got a mention in it though maybe a bit that should have been left out  :-X

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
He will say St. Enda's aren't a Belfast team....

And you are correct! They could be SW or NA.. don't forget SA couldn't cater for their teams a few years back so they came to the dark side  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2018, 10:51:42 PM
 Not debating that fact. A damn good club by the way!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
to be fair i was wondering that about Glenravel this year. they won the junior in 2016 and went up for one year and then straight back down again and win it again. whats the point in that? All they did was prove that they are still a strong junior team. Cant see any merit in how that will ever improve a team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2018, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2018, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 07:48:26 AM
Yes Chapeau to Cargin and St Galls for that match. Really was one to remember, two teams going at it was a joy to behold and the resolution of both sides was admirable.

Final will be a different affair, can Cargin be as reckless against an organised Creggan team?  Creggan dont have the stars that st galls have but work so hard for each other and do the simple things well. Their form starts them as favourites but can Cargin's returning contingent make the difference?

Toals do not agree with you........but sure they go to lots of games  8) and go;

4/9 Cargin
13/8 Creggan

Handy money......?

Toals must believe Cargin's walking wounded will have visited Lourdes first.......

It's a tight call. On one hand you have a solid team playing competently for the past 5 or 6 years, league leaders and O'Cahon Cup winners........against a team that has struggled with injuries and player loss all year but are finding their feet and have had 3 hard championship games under their belt.

I know where my moneys going ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 09:09:13 AM
Championship should be aligned with leagues.

As such this yr St.Endas should be playing Senior, Glenravel Junior. End of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 11, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2018, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 07:48:26 AM
Yes Chapeau to Cargin and St Galls for that match. Really was one to remember, two teams going at it was a joy to behold and the resolution of both sides was admirable.

Final will be a different affair, can Cargin be as reckless against an organised Creggan team?  Creggan dont have the stars that st galls have but work so hard for each other and do the simple things well. Their form starts them as favourites but can Cargin's returning contingent make the difference?

Toals do not agree with you........but sure they go to lots of games  8) and go;

4/9 Cargin
13/8 Creggan

Handy money......?

Toals must believe Cargin's walking wounded will have visited Lourdes first.......

It's a tight call. On one hand you have a solid team playing competently for the past 5 or 6 years, league leaders and O'Cahon Cup winners........against a team that has struggled with injuries and player loss all year but are finding their feet and have had 3 hard championship games under their belt.

I know where my moneys going ;)

Creggan 2/1 on PaddyPower
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 11, 2018, 09:27:52 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 09:09:13 AM
Championship should be aligned with leagues.

As such this yr St.Endas should be playing Senior, Glenravel Junior. End of.

Should be aligned with the leagues, the thing being even this year, the best div 2 teams didn't actually play IFC they played SFC in st Bridget's and Aldergrove. Makes a bit of a mockery that you've 2 div 2 teams playing senior yet a mid table div 1 playing intermediate, not all the clubs fault the county should set it out at the start of the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 11, 2018, 09:27:52 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 09:09:13 AM
Championship should be aligned with leagues.

As such this yr St.Endas should be playing Senior, Glenravel Junior. End of.

Should be aligned with the leagues, the thing being even this year, the best div 2 teams didn't actually play IFC they played SFC in st Bridget's and Aldergrove. Makes a bit of a mockery that you've 2 div 2 teams playing senior yet a mid table div 1 playing intermediate, not all the clubs fault the county should set it out at the start of the year

Yep and I would nearly go another layer and give clubs who want to play Intermediate or Junior after finishing in a promotion spot the option of playing in those Championships provided they waive promotion to the Senior or Intermediate leagues.  If they feel they are not ready for the step up in Championship class they should not be taking up a spot in the higher league when perhaps there are other clubs that would feel that they are progressing and would take the opportunity to move on up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
to be fair i was wondering that about Glenravel this year. they won the junior in 2016 and went up for one year and then straight back down again and win it again. whats the point in that? All they did was prove that they are still a strong junior team. Cant see any merit in how that will ever improve a team.

My bro in law lives up there and from what he's told me, they had 5 retirements at the start of the year and 2 in the states. 4 came back to play through the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 11, 2018, 09:40:24 AM
themac_23 quote:

'Should be aligned with the leagues, the thing being even this year, the best div 2 teams didn't actually play IFC they played SFC in st Bridget's and Aldergrove. Makes a bit of a mockery that you've 2 div 2 teams playing senior yet a mid table div 1 playing intermediate, not all the clubs fault the county should set it out at the start of the year'



St Brigids didn't play intermediate as they won it last year and had to go up even though they asked to be kept in intermediate but rightly so they were told no

Aldergorve did play in it but were beat comfortably in the premlim stage by Gort Na Mona

St Endas worthy favourites but Gort Na Mona will give it a good rattle and might surprise a few.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 11, 2018, 10:08:05 AM
Totally agree that Championship should be aligned with league positions across all counties (and promotion up the grade if you win one the previous year eg JFC to IFC). 

It would do away with any of the arguing about "they shouldn't be in this grade".  If your league position dictates that you are senior, even if its a tough ask, then so be it.

There may be arguments against this, thoughts?

On a side note, St Endas have made brilliant progress.  Played them a few years ago in preseason and have had the benefits of some of the young lads playing on our school teams.  Good luck to them in the final and it would be good to see them play at senior for the foreseeable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Peileadoir on October 11, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
St . Enda's  knew that some people would find it strange that they entered the IFC but most people probably dont know that they have never won any adult county football championship at either Junior, Intermediate or Senior grade in their history. They played senior for most of the 90's and noughties before dropping down to intermediate so seem to have set their sights on winning their first title before they consider themselves a proper senior club. If more established clubs like Rossa and the Johnnies can enter and win intermediate grade championships why cant they aspire to that too.
Big favourites for the final but write off Gorts at their peril. In Sean McKenna they have a very astute coach who will have them set up really well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 11, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 11, 2018, 09:40:24 AM
themac_23 quote:

'Should be aligned with the leagues, the thing being even this year, the best div 2 teams didn't actually play IFC they played SFC in st Bridget's and Aldergrove. Makes a bit of a mockery that you've 2 div 2 teams playing senior yet a mid table div 1 playing intermediate, not all the clubs fault the county should set it out at the start of the year'



St Brigids didn't play intermediate as they won it last year and had to go up even though they asked to be kept in intermediate but rightly so they were told no

Aldergorve did play in it but were beat comfortably in the premlim stage by Gort Na Mona

St Endas worthy favourites but Gort Na Mona will give it a good rattle and might surprise a few.

Apologies, you're correct aldergrove did play IFC. My point is that it shouldn't be down to clubs to chose what level they play at, I don't blame the clubs I blame lack of clarity from the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
to be fair i was wondering that about Glenravel this year. they won the junior in 2016 and went up for one year and then straight back down again and win it again. whats the point in that? All they did was prove that they are still a strong junior team. Cant see any merit in how that will ever improve a team.

My bro in law lives up there and from what he's told me, they had 5 retirements at the start of the year and 2 in the states. 4 came back to play through the year.

Still a Div 3 team and may be again next year with them, Antrim, Ardoyne and Lisburn all pushing for 2 promotion places. Endas had a very solid season in Div 1 thanks to developing over the years in the SW  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
He will say St. Enda's aren't a Belfast team....

And you are correct! They could be SW or NA.. don't forget SA couldn't cater for their teams a few years back so they came to the dark side  ;)

Next thing you'll be telling us is Aghagallon are an Armagh team!   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: Peileadoir on October 11, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
St . Enda's  knew that some people would find it strange that they entered the IFC but most people probably dont know that they have never won any adult county football championship at either Junior, Intermediate or Senior grade in their history. They played senior for most of the 90's and noughties before dropping down to intermediate so seem to have set their sights on winning their first title before they consider themselves a proper senior club. If more established clubs like Rossa and the Johnnies can enter and win intermediate grade championships why cant they aspire to that too.
Big favourites for the final but write off Gorts at their peril. In Sean McKenna they have a very astute coach who will have them set up really well.

Yeah look no doubt different clubs will have differing reasons for the choices they make. As an earlier poster has said it is not the clubs fault but rather the county for presenting such options.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 11, 2018, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
He will say St. Enda's aren't a Belfast team....

And you are correct! They could be SW or NA.. don't forget SA couldn't cater for their teams a few years back so they came to the dark side  ;)

Next thing you'll be telling us is Aghagallon are an Armagh team!   ;)

Armagh schooling prob a good help. As is Derry schooling for Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 11, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
to be fair i was wondering that about Glenravel this year. they won the junior in 2016 and went up for one year and then straight back down again and win it again. whats the point in that? All they did was prove that they are still a strong junior team. Cant see any merit in how that will ever improve a team.

My bro in law lives up there and from what he's told me, they had 5 retirements at the start of the year and 2 in the states. 4 came back to play through the year.

to be fair that can impact into a senior team but thats a problem for the internal structures within a club that the minors arent progressing into the adult set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 01:26:30 PM
Does it need to be stopped? Unfortunately sometimes an outsider is the best way to go. Avoid preconceived ideas about players or indeed from players. Can cut the other way of course where an outsider does not get the same respect but I think this is up to any individual club as to how they wish to play it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 01:32:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
to be fair i was wondering that about Glenravel this year. they won the junior in 2016 and went up for one year and then straight back down again and win it again. whats the point in that? All they did was prove that they are still a strong junior team. Cant see any merit in how that will ever improve a team.

My bro in law lives up there and from what he's told me, they had 5 retirements at the start of the year and 2 in the states. 4 came back to play through the year.

to be fair that can impact into a senior team but thats a problem for the internal structures within a club that the minors arent progressing into the adult set up.

Looking at the Saffron Gael photos from Sunday the majority of that Glenravel squad looks really fresh faced. DR is correct that it is vital to assimilate youth into senior ranks but I suppose it depends how many you are needing to step up. I always think that if you can get 4 ex minors blooded into senior football any given year you should be in a good place. Very rare though that you would get more than one or two max becoming a mainstay of a team within a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 11, 2018, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.

with the IFC in Corrigan

Common sense prevails - good stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM

''The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years''


Certainly not doubting the success of the strategy, it was the aesthetics of having outside managers that was the opinion.

The above quote is a nice ideal but will be highly surprising if it happens (other than the odd year).  Once a club embarks on outside managers, its rare they revert back to their own.  The 'didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level' excuse doesn't wash either as Paul McIvor and Paul Mellon were hardly seasoned managerial campaigners when they managed Creggan and KM has been around a fair few clubs now. Mickey Moran was the only one with a high profile and track record for success. I'm not sure the others had managerially won anything of note when they joined Creggan (will stand corrected of course), so Id safely say an insider would have at least been worth a punt, even for a season.

The strategy can work, of course it can, but again the point as to roping journeymen into managing GAA clubs is a poor aesthetic.   I'm sure someone on this board can point to a successful team that simply refuses to appoint outside men, but I'm guessing they are the exception to the rule. 




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 11, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.

Good to see the chair of CCC making the proper decisions for a change, must be time for gathering support for County Chair  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 11, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.

Good to see the chair of CCC making the proper decisions for a change, must be time for gathering support for County Chair  ::)

Is that how fickle your potential support would be?

Probably the exception rather than the rule though nothing would have surprised me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 07:58:42 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/junior-hurling-championship/

This is more the rule
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 11, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
Sometimes better focusing on your own house
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people

What have Creggan ever done on you? You're a bitter bitter man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people

What have Creggan ever done on you? You're a bitter bitter man.
How does being against paid managers in a volunteer organisation make me bitter? Creggan is a smashing club in many ways and have done nothing on me. If Cargin win it, it will be with the help of Bellaghy and i'm against their decision to pay a manager too. Having an opinion doesn't make me bitter at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 11, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
The good news is we have a home draw in Ulster this year but:



Antrim v Tyrone/Derry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 11:34:28 PM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

Dunloy. Better parking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 11, 2018, 11:45:37 PM
Terrible draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:55 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 11, 2018, 11:45:37 PM
Terrible draw

Why? Is it better to be hammered by Fermangh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 12, 2018, 10:24:16 AM
CSC the line in bold may have been true at one stage back in the 90s perhaps, but i'm guessing on the scale of Antrim clubs based on membership Creggan sit well up there with the larger clubs and i'd say have more membership than Cargin these days.

If you look further North into the Glens you'll see what a true small club is in terms of both membership and playing numbers!

Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2018, 10:54:25 AM
Fair play to creggan. An outside manager diminishes nothing in this at all -utter nonsense and petty begrudging. It's great to see a different club in the final and would be good to see them get over the line though I would still fancy cargin to win it.

Terrible draw. Apparently we would only have an option of a home game depending on the result.(Were we to have a home ground).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.

Bullshit

Sorry should have added 'if I dont throw somebody a few quid to mind it'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Knock Yer Mucker In on October 12, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 11, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
The good news is we have a home draw in Ulster this year but:



Antrim v Tyrone/Derry

Home draw?, you haven't a ground to take the crowd. It will be moved to a neutral venue due to the support Tyrone will carry for them, no facilities for a game of this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
What's the salary these days for a club manager. Admire LD for not paying their own guys on principle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
What's the salary these days for a club manager. Admire LD for not paying their own guys on principle

If you have to admire a club for this then we are all up the creek.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.

Bullshit

Sorry should have added 'if I dont throw somebody a few quid to mind it'.

As much as you'd love that to be true because it would help you with your stereotyping, that has never happened around Corrigan and 'paying someone to look after your car' is not a thing. You are no better than the people around Corrigan despite what you might believe.

You, my friend, are a ballbag.

Lol you are some humpy bollox. Happy enough to throw a bit of slagging but cant take it back. Ok Im a ballbag lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 12, 2018, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.

Bullshit

Sorry should have added 'if I dont throw somebody a few quid to mind it'.

As much as you'd love that to be true because it would help you with your stereotyping, that has never happened around Corrigan and 'paying someone to look after your car' is not a thing. You are no better than the people around Corrigan despite what you might believe.

You, my friend, are a ballbag.

Jaysus lad, if you're throwing out stick about SW Hillbillies and stereotypes, you're gonna have to take some stick back in return.

You'll need a thicker skin round these parts!  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 12, 2018, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.

Bullshit

Sorry should have added 'if I dont throw somebody a few quid to mind it'.

As much as you'd love that to be true because it would help you with your stereotyping, that has never happened around Corrigan and 'paying someone to look after your car' is not a thing. You are no better than the people around Corrigan despite what you might believe.

You, my friend, are a ballbag.

Lol you are some humpy bollox. Happy enough to throw a bit of slagging but cant take it back. Ok Im a ballbag lol.

Great exchanges.  Would read again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 12, 2018, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
What's the salary these days for a club manager. Admire LD for not paying their own guys on principle

If you have to admire a club for this then we are all up the creek.

Teams pay for strength and conditioning and no complaints. Why is it an issue paying a manager to supply a service. Antrim is an unsuccessful county and have not to many experienced managers but more a case of pass the baton to a club man who wants to give it a go.  Teams are fully entitled to covers a managers cost and this is not entirely a negative but more so they want to prosper and make their club better.  The gaa on a whole does not run on air. Plenty of people outside of managers are getting big salaries for little effort and at least a manager can be held accountable. Maybe if we paid an outsider to push the casement bid from the start we would be getting places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
What's the salary these days for a club manager. Admire LD for not paying their own guys on principle

If you have to admire a club for this then we are all up the creek.
I admire that the men involved were club men, doing it for their own club and for FREE. They weren't lured away but their greed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 12, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
What's the salary these days for a club manager. Admire LD for not paying their own guys on principle

If you have to admire a club for this then we are all up the creek.
I admire that the men involved were club men, doing it for their own club and for FREE. They weren't lured away but their greed
dont think St. John's r paying or st galls or St. Paul's or st Teresa's or rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2018, 02:13:54 PM
Where has the 250k figure come from? Who came up with that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on October 12, 2018, 02:17:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 12, 2018, 02:13:54 PM
Where has the 250k figure come from? Who came up with that?

From their main contributor over the years. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
Literally dont know where to start on replying to a couple of the comments above so maybe just best to bow out at this stage.  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
Literally dont know where to start on replying to a couple of the comments above so maybe just best to bow out at this stage.  :-X

Thought that myself!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.

Bullshit

Sorry should have added 'if I dont throw somebody a few quid to mind it'.

As much as you'd love that to be true because it would help you with your stereotyping, that has never happened around Corrigan and 'paying someone to look after your car' is not a thing. You are no better than the people around Corrigan despite what you might believe.

You, my friend, are a ballbag.

Lol you are some humpy bollox. Happy enough to throw a bit of slagging but cant take it back. Ok Im a ballbag lol.

Haha have to say my self awareness meter wasn't on there when I wrote that.

Apologies and touché!

Haha good stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 14, 2018, 04:06:10 PM
I see Rossa have gave themselves a chance of staying in Div 1 today .... pressure on St Teresa's now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2018, 06:58:00 PM
Aye plenty of business left in all divisions from what I can see. What is the position with regard cut off date and also when teams finish level on points?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2018, 07:45:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 14, 2018, 06:58:00 PM
Aye plenty of business left in all divisions from what I can see. What is the position with regard cut off date and also when teams finish level on points?
Last round scheduled 27th Oct.....teams finishing on level points separated by head to head in league meetings home and away..if one win apiece then score difference comes into play to determine position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2018, 07:53:00 PM
Thanks. Must get back to studying the tables to see what is at stake where. Bit of working out in Div 2 mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2018, 08:08:03 PM
So I make it if GNM beat Moneyglass then a win or draw good enough for St Brigids against Randalstown for promotion.

If GNM get beat by Moneyglass then could have a 3 way tie for promotion spots with them, Aldergrove (if they beat Dunloy)  and a loser in Brigids v Randalstown. Does it go to points diff straight away in this case of some sort of head to head mini league?

Trying to work out the permutations for draws too head frying. Sets it up nicely all the same with 3 teams having promotion in their own hands.

Is there U21 pencilled in for the last weekend in Oct also?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 14, 2018, 08:41:59 PM
Two  teams  tied     =  head to head,  if even,  score difference

Three team tie = overall score difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
some craic with our game on sat against Moneyglass. Both teams had it as a draw but ref had it as a one point win to Moneyglass. lol it was a pointless game and no one could see how it was anything other than a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
I've heard the u21 championship is due to kick off this weekend a lot of teams still involved in other competitions - pity there wasn't a few more months in the year !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
I've heard the u21 championship is due to kick off this weekend a lot of teams still involved in other competitions - pity there wasn't a few more months in the year !!

It is an arguement that has been gone over and over on here but there is still no solution.

We shorterned the county season and what difference really has it had on the club season? Zero we are still playing our most important matches in October and into November.

Realistically what games of any value were played in the summer months?

U21 is a prime example and it has been pushed about for nearly all of its existence, but now it is running straight into College football at the back end of the year. So players will have been slogging with their teams since preseason this year right through to the end of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 09:50:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
I've heard the u21 championship is due to kick off this weekend a lot of teams still involved in other competitions - pity there wasn't a few more months in the year !!

It is an arguement that has been gone over and over on here but there is still no solution.

We shorterned the county season and what difference really has it had on the club season? Zero we are still playing our most important matches in October and into November.

Realistically what games of any value were played in the summer months?

U21 is a prime example and it has been pushed about for nearly all of its existence, but now it is running straight into College football at the back end of the year. So players will have been slogging with their teams since preseason this year right through to the end of the year.

i agree I think the u21 hurling should be played off in 4 weeks in june , and the u21 football mid july to mid august however I'm sure people will find problems with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 15, 2018, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
some craic with our game on sat against Moneyglass. Both teams had it as a draw but ref had it as a one point win to Moneyglass. lol it was a pointless game and no one could see how it was anything other than a draw.

Situation like that can the two teams not get their heads together and agree and get it changed? While referees can make errors you would expect good sportsmanship to prevail. Good that it was a match of little significance but same thing could happen in in a game of high significance. I suppose had it mattered would the 'winning' team be as willing to hold their hands up. I would like to think in all cases the answer would be yes and in doing so shows great sporting integrity and the difference between the battle on the pitch and the respect off it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 15, 2018, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 15, 2018, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
some craic with our game on sat against Moneyglass. Both teams had it as a draw but ref had it as a one point win to Moneyglass. lol it was a pointless game and no one could see how it was anything other than a draw.

Situation like that can the two teams not get their heads together and agree and get it changed? While referees can make errors you would expect good sportsmanship to prevail. Good that it was a match of little significance but same thing could happen in in a game of high significance. I suppose had it mattered would the 'winning' team be as willing to hold their hands up. I would like to think in all cases the answer would be yes and in doing so shows great sporting integrity and the difference between the battle on the pitch and the respect off it.

Happened to Creggan 'v' Ahoghill in 93. We needed to win the match to win Div 2. Ahoghill were leading by a point with 10mins to go and the ref blew it up for full time. Creggan argued with the ref that he blew it up early and Ahoghill confirmed Creggan's position. After a 10 min break the game restarted and we won by 2. Never experienced it before of after.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 15, 2018, 07:06:06 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 09:38:49 AM
I've heard the u21 championship is due to kick off this weekend a lot of teams still involved in other competitions - pity there wasn't a few more months in the year !!

No fixtures up as yet. Has it been delayed because of the business still to be done in the leagues. Last weekends results did not really do much to alleviate the number of teams with all to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2018, 01:45:11 PM
So last night's result in which St Teresa's gained the points over Glenavy means Rossa will face the prospect of life in Division Two next year.
Sorry to see them go but bit of a head scratcher as to how a club which secured both minor and u-21 titles last year find themselves in such predicament..... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
If you look at what happened their hurlers towards the tail end of the season it makes sense. they lost a lot of players to america and other commitments which meant towards the end they were shipping a lot of scores.

They have been relegated in that as well to D2.

As you say its a bit of a surprise considering how good they were at Minor and U21 last season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 17, 2018, 03:56:27 PM
Takes a few yrs sometimes for lads to mature into senior competition and certainly losing key personnel not easy for any side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 18, 2018, 07:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 17, 2018, 03:56:27 PM
Takes a few yrs sometimes for lads to mature into senior competition and certainly losing key personnel not easy for any side.

Though Div 2 no walk in the park for getting back out of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 18, 2018, 09:48:05 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 18, 2018, 07:49:03 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 17, 2018, 03:56:27 PM
Takes a few yrs sometimes for lads to mature into senior competition and certainly losing key personnel not easy for any side.

Though Div 2 no walk in the park for getting back out of.

Anyone remember last year the county released a draft of proposals for a league change, wonder will they look at that again next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 18, 2018, 10:28:13 AM
What were last years proposals does anyone remember?

I think any restructuring needs to be laid out at the beginning of the year so that teams know what they are playing for.

Otherwise you could have a situation where teams have got to now and been eliminated from promotion and wish to field their U21s ahead of next months Championship only to find out that had they maybe fielded their strongest team and finished a position or two higher in the league they would in fact have been promoted.

Yes there is always the argument that for the integrity of competitions every side should be giving their all in training and matches until a season ends but given the amateur nature of our game and commitment involved it is understandable also that teams tail off when they think they have nothing left to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 18, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
And just looking at tables not sure what resteucturing would work.  Maybe 3 up from Div 3 and 1 down from Div 2 would help St Pauls. Create a 2 way league of 14 games in Div 3 and a one way league of 13 games in Div 2.  Then free up some time to play U21 on the assumption Div 2 and Div 3 teams potentially having more u21s in starting 15.

Jaysus could actually see this working. Play the U21 football Championship when there is the lull in fixtures ahead of Ulster Championship and into June when county involvement has passed.  Impact on Div 1 teams should be mininal and space cleared up in Div 2 and Div 3 fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 18, 2018, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: farset on October 18, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
I'm sure St Paul's are already plotting and scheming about changing league formats given their relegation to Division 3. Isnt that how the hurling leagues were messed up a few years ago into a 19 team Division 3 because of their 'proud hurling tradition'?

This was the exact reason i was thinking it might raise its head again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 18, 2018, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: farset on October 18, 2018, 11:05:31 AM
I seem to recall that a motion was passed a few years ago that league structures passed had to remain in place for 2 years and also that any changes proposed would have a one year delay added to them to avoid exactly clubs chopping and changing to suit themselves.

I would leave well alone. Division 1 is where it should be at. Division 2 is as competitive as ever. Division 3 is what it is unfortunately. A couple of teams maybe capable of playing Division 2 and Intermediate but fairly weak if we're all honest. It's up to those clubs to get up to a good standard. I don't think we are able to legislate them into being better.

Clubs like LLL, Pearses etc will probably always be in the bottom tiers. ODs made the step up last year and are on -2 points for the year. St Paul's need to take their medicine.

I cant really remember to be honest but i THINK it was an 8 team 1a 8 team 1b 8 team div 2 and rest div 3? i think it was something like that.

I completely agree with you by the way, if anything St Pauls are being given a good chance to get themselves back to basics, there are 3 clubs playing Div 1 football who went to div 3 and rebuilt, St Teresas, Aghagallon and St Endas all built their foundations in Div 3, sometimes it takes to be winning games to develop a style of play and let some of your younger players break through playing winning football rather than trying to just gather enough points to avoid relegation in div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 18, 2018, 12:19:30 PM
Div 2 has been the most competitive league for a long time now. Div 1 and Div 3 have massive disparity in top and bottom half. Still could have decent leagues with the bottom half of 1 and top half of 2 and likewise 2 and 3. Problem with that is you have not enough numbers at top of Div 1 or bottom of Div 3 to make up another 2 competitive leagues.

Not sure what happened ODees this year. They were always going to be up against it but they got absolutely mauled in both the league and Championship. Antrim last year I thought put it up to a lot of teams in Div 2 and could maybe have kicked on had they gained a foothold. I thought if they could have bounced back up for a 2nd year in 3 in Div 2 they might still have kicked on. Instead they seem to have gone backwards this year.  Funny thing is Antrims manager went to ODees if I am correct. Maybe better all round if he had stayed put.  Hard to know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 18, 2018, 09:33:07 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 18, 2018, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: farset on October 18, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
I'm sure St Paul's are already plotting and scheming about changing league formats given their relegation to Division 3. Isnt that how the hurling leagues were messed up a few years ago into a 19 team Division 3 because of their 'proud hurling tradition'?

This was the exact reason i was thinking it might raise its head again.
How could St Pauls gerrymander the leagues on their own? surely not possible....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 19, 2018, 10:49:02 AM
Of course everything should be laid out at the beginning of the season but history tells us that is not always how it works.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2018, 11:11:59 AM
Any new proposals to league format would need a club to propose the motion or referral, a club member to make a strong argument to support the proposal. And this sequence of events, all club delegates get a chance to vote for or against the said proposal. It's called  democracy. In fairness the St Paul's hurlers case was a very lengthy in depth discussion and was secured mostly because of a sincere and emotional plea (supported by an argument that found enough support in the room) by a St Paul's delegate with plenty of clout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
In any event the only way around the topic of discussion (How to keep league's competitive) would be a top 8 division one, with 14 games ( seven home/seven away) with two relegated each year.

That may leave a 16 team division Two, with one round of 15 games. Two up and two down would leave that league very competitive too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Excitement building in the SW for its first ever all country final. Expect a big crowd with no more than a point or two between the sides, who need no introduction to each other.

I think Cargins experience of being here before, plus the return of three or four big players recently to the training, might give them the edge. Equally I wouldnt be surprised if Creggan pull it off, to provide Kevin Madden (and Gerard Mc Nulty) with an unprecedented quad of four titles in 2018.

May the best team on the day win, and let's hope it is a good advertisement for football in South West Antrim.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 19, 2018, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2018, 11:11:59 AM
Any new proposals to league format would need a club to propose the motion or referral, a club member to make a strong argument to support the proposal. And this sequence of events, all club delegates get a chance to vote for or against the said proposal. It's called  democracy. In fairness the St Paul's hurlers case was a very lengthy in depth discussion and was secured mostly because of a sincere and emotional plea (supported by an argument that found enough support in the room) by a St Paul's delegate with plenty of clout.

Useful insight.

Any insight on why U21 deferred? While I am not a fan of it being played at the tail end of the year I do think in this instance common sense has prevailed with a fair bit of important action still to be played out at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2018, 08:30:07 PM
The minor final is probably a surprise with aghagallon Ballymena and st brigids all fancied to win it this year...any predictions out there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Excitement building in the SW for its first ever all country final. Expect a big crowd with no more than a point or two between the sides, who need no introduction to each other.

I think Cargins experience of being here before, plus the return of three or four big players recently to the training, might give them the edge. Equally I wouldnt be surprised if Creggan pull it off, to provide Kevin Madden (and Gerard Mc Nulty) with an unprecedented quad of four titles in 2018.

May the best team on the day win, and let's hope it is a good advertisement for football in South West Antrim.
Think you need to thumb back through the record books BS.....and take a peek at 2015 and see the unprecedented four titles in that year being brought to Toome.... :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2018, 10:04:30 PM
That being the case CB I thank you for putting the record straight. Good achievement in anyone's book...credit where it's due. Obviously Cargin arnt motivated by anything else but the Mc Namee cup, and your  highly paid manager wasn't  brought in to deliver anything less, so your seasons plaudits will be decided by 4.30 pm on Sunday. If I was still a betting man I'd have a few quid on Cargin but wouldn't be wading in too heavily as I think it will be close.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2018, 10:24:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2018, 10:04:30 PM
That being the case CB I thank you for putting the record straight. Good achievement in anyone's book...credit where it's due. Obviously Cargin arnt motivated by anything else but the Mc Namee cup, and your  highly paid manager wasn't  brought in to deliver anything less, so your seasons plaudits will be decided by 4.30 pm on Sunday. If I was still a betting man I'd have a few quid on Cargin but wouldn't be wading in too heavily as I think it will be close.
Think if you care to have a peek back at the record books BS you will find Cargin have claimed 20+ league titles, and a simllar number of O'Cahan cups and just 7 senior titles (have appeared in 17 finals) not to mention junior, Intermediate, u-21 and minor titles and you would suggest a single minded approach.
Will make enquiries to find out as to the figure earned by our "highly paid manager"....... think anything other than expenses would not be quite legal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
Expenses lol. Sure do let us know what the mileage allowance is from Ballynease to Toome lol.

That's an admirable roll of honour to be fair.  Cargin flew the flag for SW for years, and continue to do so. Creggan wanting now to make their own history this weekend so a lot at stake between two neighbouring parishes. Really looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 20, 2018, 08:08:37 AM
I have nothing against outside managers and think it is something we just have to accept.

I do hold in the highest esteem though club volunteers from those that manage the adults right through to juvenille for the love of their club rather than any financial reimbursement. And add to that those who cut the grass, line the pitches, look after the running and administration, mind the club shop, organise fundraising etc etc.

Lot to make a club work and a lot of people involved and while days like Sunday are the pinnacle equally important is the provision of sport for our young members and all that they get from it beyond the game itself. 

A day like Sunday may see a small number of individuals who get some form of financial reimbursement for their efforts but there will be a lot of people in attendance who have contributed greatly to arriving at this point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2018, 08:40:32 AM
100% agree with that and to be fair to Cassidy he does make himself available to Wolfe Tones regularly at all levels including  managing their excellent minor team to an all county title last Sunday. He definitely does know how to get a team over the line, and that's the reason clubs (or individuals) are happy to fund those expenses (lol).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on October 20, 2018, 09:11:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2018, 11:11:59 AM
Any new proposals to league format would need a club to propose the motion or referral, a club member to make a strong argument to support the proposal. And this sequence of events, all club delegates get a chance to vote for or against the said proposal. It's called  democracy. In fairness the St Paul's hurlers case was a very lengthy in depth discussion and was secured mostly because of a sincere and emotional plea (supported by an argument that found enough support in the room) by a St Paul's delegate with plenty of clout.

"Clout" being the operative word, sincere and emotional shouldn't get in the way of good sense. You are where you are on merit in any given season, why should it be anyone else's problem or should your club's proud history come in to it? And the people who voted for it as a wee favour, sure it only involves the little leaguers. Hey that's democracy, hold power on the lobby room floor and you can twist this county any way you like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2018, 08:40:32 AM
100% agree with that and to be fair to Cassidy he does make himself available to Wolfe Tones regularly at all levels including  managing their excellent minor team to an all county title last Sunday. He definitely does know how to get a team over the line, and that's the reason clubs (or individuals) are happy to fund those expenses (lol).
Think you are being a trifle disingenuous BS......surely you do 'employ' an outside manager at Casement's and indeed several from your club are working in other units.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
Hats off to Saffron Gael for their fantastic coverage in the build up to tomorrows county senior final. Since the demise of the County Antrim Post, SG has really stepped up to the plate, not just for high profile finals but right across the spectrum of Gaa activity.

The significance of this consistent exposure cannot be underestimated. It provides an almost unrivalled platform in promoting Gaelic Games and especially to the younger generation of readers who are really switched on to modern forms of communication.

I'd go further and suggest that this private venture should be adequately part funded out of county coffers, that's how significant this exposure is in my book. And a big shout out too obviously to the unreplacable Sean Kelly who has developed probably the best county Facebook in the country.

Added together, Curly Paddy Sean (and their teams obviously) deserve the highest praise for their outstanding contributions to Antrim Gaa.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
I see the argument for and against outside managers from both sides, and for half a dozen years I was happy to take "Expenses" where clubs were happy to offer them.

If the Gaa feel it's against the ideals of the association then they need to change the rules or at least make some proper call on the whole reimbursement thing. In the absence of that their is a vacuum that allows for a club to do what it wants in this regard.

Until that happens you just have to go with the flow because something that cannot be properly policed is not going to change any soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 20, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2018, 09:49:20 AM

If the Gaa feel it's against the ideals of the association then they need to change the rules or at least make some proper call on the whole reimbursement thing. In the absence of that their is a vacuum that allows for a club to do what it wants in this regard.

Until that happens you just have to go with the flow because something that cannot be properly policed is not going to change any soon.

I think the rules of the GAA are fairly clear - expenses should be for genuine travel to and from games/training/meetings.  Payment should not be any more than Civil Service rates.  In an amateur association I question wether anyone should be claiming even these basic expenses.  The real problem however lies with the clubs/counties who deliberately abuse the rules to pay "managers" who are only interested in earning money.  a rule that stipulates managers must be a member of the club would go a long way to sorting out the money grabbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 20, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 20, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2018, 09:49:20 AM

If the Gaa feel it's against the ideals of the association then they need to change the rules or at least make some proper call on the whole reimbursement thing. In the absence of that their is a vacuum that allows for a club to do what it wants in this regard.

Until that happens you just have to go with the flow because something that cannot be properly policed is not going to change any soon.

I think the rules of the GAA are fairly clear - expenses should be for genuine travel to and from games/training/meetings.  Payment should not be any more than Civil Service rates.  In an amateur association I question wether anyone should be claiming even these basic expenses.  The real problem however lies with the clubs/counties who deliberately abuse the rules to pay "managers" who are only interested in earning money.  a rule that stipulates managers must be a member of the club would go a long way to sorting out the money grabbers.
Clubs paying managers more than travelling expenses are cheating - plain and simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Wasn't that long a go that a well known GAA manager wanted to poach players from other teams for his own club...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 20, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
I see the argument for and against outside managers from both sides, and for half a dozen years I was happy to take "Expenses" where clubs were happy to offer them.

If the Gaa feel it's against the ideals of the association then they need to change the rules or at least make some proper call on the whole reimbursement thing. In the absence of that their is a vacuum that allows for a club to do what it wants in this regard.

Until that happens you just have to go with the flow because something that cannot be properly policed is not going to change any soon.

integrity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 20, 2018, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
Hats off to Saffron Gael for their fantastic coverage in the build up to tomorrows county senior final. Since the demise of the County Antrim Post, SG has really stepped up to the plate, not just for high profile finals but right across the spectrum of Gaa activity.

The significance of this consistent exposure cannot be underestimated. It provides an almost unrivalled platform in promoting Gaelic Games and especially to the younger generation of readers who are really switched on to modern forms of communication.

I'd go further and suggest that this private venture should be adequately part funded out of county coffers, that's how significant this exposure is in my book. And a big shout out too obviously to the unreplacable Sean Kelly who has developed probably the best county Facebook in the country.

Added together, Curly Paddy Sean (and their teams obviously) deserve the highest praise for their outstanding contributions to Antrim Gaa.

Totally agree

Fantastic service.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2018, 07:03:35 PM
Sounded like a comfortable enough win for st endas. Be interesting to see what they do in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 20, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Wasn't that long a go that a well known GAA manager wanted to poach players from other teams for his own club...
more details required if u want a debate....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2018, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 20, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Wasn't that long a go that a well known GAA manager wanted to poach players from other teams for his own club...
more details required if u want a debate....

No debate required.

Those without sin cast the first stone and all that jazz.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 21, 2018, 05:13:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2018, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 20, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Wasn't that long a go that a well known GAA manager wanted to poach players from other teams for his own club...
more details required if u want a debate....

No debate required.

Those without sin cast the first stone and all that jazz.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 21, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
Really good to see our minors win today. Game was far easier than I could of ever hoped for.  St Galls just didn't use the wind at all in the second half.

But it's a second title in 3 years for this group and a county Hurling final next week as well.

The senior game I left at half time. What a big pile of cow dung that was to watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 06:06:25 PM
Aye Christ that is nearly as bad as it get bar a 0 0 draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2018, 06:41:07 PM
Not sure ned.

Just looking through the tables there. How have o'donnels ended up on minus points? Do you get points deducted for not fielding or was it something else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.

When head to head is equal

Overall scoring difference is the determining factor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 06:48:02 PM
You get points deducted if you are found to have had chips in the changing rooms.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.

When head to head is equal

Overall scoring difference is the determining factor

Yeah looks like Glenravel take the head to head by the narrowest of margins. They won by 5 in Lisburn. Lisburn won by 4 in Glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.

When head to head is equal

Overall scoring difference is the determining factor

Yeah looks like Glenravel take the head to head by the narrowest of margins. They won by 5 in Lisburn. Lisburn won by 4 in Glenravel.
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Overall scoring difference in the competition  is thecdetetiming factor     not the difference in the games between the two tied teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.

When head to head is equal

Overall scoring difference is the determining factor

Yeah looks like Glenravel take the head to head by the narrowest of margins. They won by 5 in Lisburn. Lisburn won by 4 in Glenravel.
[/quote

Overall scoring difference in the competition  is thecdetetiming factor     not the difference in the games between the two tied teams

Assumed that was only if head to head scoring diff tied. Bit silly to go past that first if scoring difference a consideration
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 21, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 21, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
Really good to see our minors win today. Game was far easier than I could of ever hoped for.  St Galls just didn't use the wind at all in the second half.

But it's a second title in 3 years for this group and a county Hurling final next week as well.

The senior game I left at half time. What a big pile of cow dung that was to watch.
Congratulations to Dunloy on this achievement -  a proper GAA club with great facilities, great coaches and great players - the winning combination!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 07:13:46 PM
Great to see a club as healthy as Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Antrim Senior Football Final 2018

lugubrious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 21, 2018, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 21, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: ned on October 21, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
How are league positions in Football leagues decided? Glenravel top of division 3 by two points can only be caught by Lisburn. It's one win each against each other with Glenravel edging scoring by one point. On the other hand Lisburn have a superior points difference. Hoping for a nice double to round off the year.

When head to head is equal

Overall scoring difference is the determining factor

Yeah looks like Glenravel take the head to head by the narrowest of margins. They won by 5 in Lisburn. Lisburn won by 4 in Glenravel.
[/quote

Overall scoring difference in the competition  is thecdetetiming factor     not the difference in the games between the two tied teams

Assumed that was only if head to head scoring diff tied. Bit silly to go past that first if scoring difference a consideration

Head to head is a sound factor  when teams finish level on points
Ardoyne level.on.points with Lisburn   but   lisburn beat them twice in league .

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
That sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2018, 07:37:24 PM
Lisburn a game left too but with top two up hardly matters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2018, 07:40:28 PM
Dunloy who definitely don't concentrate on football win a second minor title in three years. Sincere congrats to them, their structures, their ethos, and talking to a few of their clubmen the conveyor belt is well under way for years to come. Whilst fantastic for Dunloy......a very sad reflection on the rest of us and especially the football only clubs. St Galls a very poor second fiddle on the day.

Question for county minor or under 21 managers? Why is there only one Dunloy player on the county radar (Deaghlan Smyth). Open your eyes please.








Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 07:47:06 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Antrim Senior Football Final 2018

lugubrious.

Aye though semi final was a belter so not all bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 21, 2018, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Antrim Senior Football Final 2018

lugubrious.

Not a word you would see on this thread every day. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senior title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 wides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players today. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, Ciaran Bradley superb and the TS express keeps rolling on. The Mc Namee cup is in Toome, enjoy, we will be there to support you against Gweedore, but if you're going to have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2018, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senuor title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 sides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players todsy. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, and Ciaran Bradley superb throughout. The cups in Toome, enjoy, but if you're going yo have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Poor shot selection contributes to that stat -.in a swirling wind it was hail mary stuff. Thought Creggan set up not to lose - they had 14 men in their half for long periods of the game. Replica of the 5-3 game a few years ago. Cargin ran into a wall at half way li e and the game continued in that vein.  A more remarkable stat was that Cargin scores were all from play. In last ten minutes Creggan still refused to change their system even though they were a point down. Either a lack of courage or can only play one way. Dreadful. Cargin wont win ulster playing like that but hard to tell when dealing with a system such as that. Creggan have personnel to play another way but not sure whether they dont fully trust their defence to do their jobs hence why they rigidly employ the system they do.   That match killed any neutrals watching antrim championship football for a few years.

Ps well.done to ahoghill - superbly run day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
RE: League positions

If two teams are on equal points, it goes to head to heads.
If three teams are on equal points, head to heads go out the window and it comes down to points difference.

Same figuring out for next weekend in Div 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2018, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Antrim Senior Football Final 2018

lugubrious.

Jeez I am really sorry that u left Ahoghill feeling sad today....will ask the Cargin lads (but to be honest can't speak for Creggan) if they would they consider replaying and hope to please you....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2018, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Antrim Senior Football Final 2018

lugubrious.

Jeez I am really sorry that u left Ahoghill feeling sad today....will ask the Cargin lads (but to be honest can't speak for Creggan) if they would they consider replaying and hope to please you....

Please don't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2018, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2018, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: bogieman on October 21, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Antrim Senior Football Final 2018

lugubrious.

Jeez I am really sorry that u left Ahoghill feeling sad today....will ask the Cargin lads (but to be honest can't speak for Creggan) if they would they consider replaying and hope to please you....

Please don't.

Well I did ask and I am so sure they are disappointed to leave Clooney with their 3rd title in four years not having pleased yourself. >:(

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2018, 06:40:19 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2018, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senuor title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 sides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players todsy. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, and Ciaran Bradley superb throughout. The cups in Toome, enjoy, but if you're going yo have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Poor shot selection contributes to that stat -.in a swirling wind it was hail mary stuff. Thought Creggan set up not to lose - they had 14 men in their half for long periods of the game. Replica of the 5-3 game a few years ago. Cargin ran into a wall at half way li e and the game continued in that vein.  A more remarkable stat was that Cargin scores were all from play. In last ten minutes Creggan still refused to change their system even though they were a point down. Either a lack of courage or can only play one way. Dreadful. Cargin wont win ulster playing like that but hard to tell when dealing with a system such as that. Creggan have personnel to play another way but not sure whether they dont fully trust their defence to do their jobs hence why they rigidly employ the system they do.   That match killed any neutrals watching antrim championship football for a few years.

Ps well.done to ahoghill - superbly run day.

Dunno why Creggan did not have confidence in their defense...Cargin only managed to win a single free inside their half for the entire 60+ minutes, never mind in close proximity to their posts.
Superb defending or what......
Code Select
;) 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 22, 2018, 06:50:38 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
RE: League positions

If two teams are on equal points, it goes to head to heads.
If three teams are on equal points, head to heads go out the window and it comes down to points difference.

Same figuring out for next weekend in Div 2.

League Regulations here: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf (https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf)
Point 3.07

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal
points, the following criteria shall be used:

a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the
meetings between the teams shall be the deciding
factor, except for in a one round league where the
deciding factors will be from b to d below .
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus
points conceded in the games played between the
teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be
decided as per b above
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 22, 2018, 08:12:28 AM
Good work.

I think if GNM win as I suspect they will then they will be on the same points as the winners of St Brides and Randalstown. League winner will then depend on who comes through that tie. Randalstown and GNM win both promoted with Randalstown league winners. St Bridgids and GNM both win then both promoted with GNM league winners by my reckoning. GNM losing and Aldergrove winning with a winner in the other game, or indeed a draw in other game, a step too far for my brain this early.

And Glenravel Div 3 winners at that rate. Well done to them on a successful season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senior title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 wides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players today. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, Ciaran Bradley superb and the TS express keeps rolling on. The Mc Namee cup is in Toome, enjoy, we will be there to support you against Gweedore, but if you're going to have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Bannside I have to correct your stat Kickams hit 12 wides to Cargins 7 - a lot of wides down to poor shot selection and not judging the conditions, Creggan played with fear of losing and cargin were very happy just to keep ball. Creggan are a good footballing team with pace in abundance -  with a big pitch like ahoghills I felt they could have opened cargin up, very naïve but I have no doubt about it therday will come - I would also expect KM to be at the helm next year again.  As you can tell I am very disappointed by kickams performance think there is a lot more football in them.

Any updates on the manager merry-go-round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 22, 2018, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senior title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 wides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players today. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, Ciaran Bradley superb and the TS express keeps rolling on. The Mc Namee cup is in Toome, enjoy, we will be there to support you against Gweedore, but if you're going to have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Bannside I have to correct your stat Kickams hit 12 wides to Cargins 7 - a lot of wides down to poor shot selection and not judging the conditions, Creggan played with fear of losing and cargin were very happy just to keep ball. Creggan are a good footballing team with pace in abundance -  with a big pitch like ahoghills I felt they could have opened cargin up, very naïve but I have no doubt about it therday will come - I would also expect KM to be at the helm next year again.  As you can tell I am very disappointed by kickams performance think there is a lot more football in them.

Any updates on the manager merry-go-round?

First things first, congrats to CB, I think, while a close game, Cargin deserved to win it. The Creggan lads are disappointed. Think there was a combination of factors that hurt the performance, most notably was Cargin. They did a great job disrupting Creggans running game with a great defensive performance. Think at the end of the day, Creggan were missing an old head up front (Mark Dougan's Absence in terms of free taking and winning frees was a big loss). Very young team, 4 of the forwards were U20, and should learn from this experience)

Well done Cargin and enjoy the well earned celebrations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:47:24 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 22, 2018, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senior title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 wides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players today. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, Ciaran Bradley superb and the TS express keeps rolling on. The Mc Namee cup is in Toome, enjoy, we will be there to support you against Gweedore, but if you're going to have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Bannside I have to correct your stat Kickams hit 12 wides to Cargins 7 - a lot of wides down to poor shot selection and not judging the conditions, Creggan played with fear of losing and cargin were very happy just to keep ball. Creggan are a good footballing team with pace in abundance -  with a big pitch like ahoghills I felt they could have opened cargin up, very naïve but I have no doubt about it therday will come - I would also expect KM to be at the helm next year again.  As you can tell I am very disappointed by kickams performance think there is a lot more football in them.

Any updates on the manager merry-go-round?

First things first, congrats to CB, I think, while a close game, Cargin deserved to win it. The Creggan lads are disappointed. Think there was a combination of factors that hurt the performance, most notably was Cargin. They did a great job disrupting Creggans running game with a great defensive performance. Think at the end of the day, Creggan were missing an old head up front (Mark Dougan's Absence in terms of free taking and winning frees was a big loss). Very young team, 4 of the forwards were U20, and should learn from this experience)

Well done Cargin and enjoy the well earned celebrations

Why did Dougan not play a part he seemed to be going well in the warm up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 22, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:47:24 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 22, 2018, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senior title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 wides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players today. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, Ciaran Bradley superb and the TS express keeps rolling on. The Mc Namee cup is in Toome, enjoy, we will be there to support you against Gweedore, but if you're going to have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Bannside I have to correct your stat Kickams hit 12 wides to Cargins 7 - a lot of wides down to poor shot selection and not judging the conditions, Creggan played with fear of losing and cargin were very happy just to keep ball. Creggan are a good footballing team with pace in abundance -  with a big pitch like ahoghills I felt they could have opened cargin up, very naïve but I have no doubt about it therday will come - I would also expect KM to be at the helm next year again.  As you can tell I am very disappointed by kickams performance think there is a lot more football in them.

Any updates on the manager merry-go-round?

First things first, congrats to CB, I think, while a close game, Cargin deserved to win it. The Creggan lads are disappointed. Think there was a combination of factors that hurt the performance, most notably was Cargin. They did a great job disrupting Creggans running game with a great defensive performance. Think at the end of the day, Creggan were missing an old head up front (Mark Dougan's Absence in terms of free taking and winning frees was a big loss). Very young team, 4 of the forwards were U20, and should learn from this experience)

Well done Cargin and enjoy the well earned celebrations

Why did Dougan not play a part he seemed to be going well in the warm up?

He damaged his hamstring about 3-4 weeks ago, (no sure how bad, but was considered a high risk of it going again) still, I would have put him on for the last 5-10 mins just to have an experienced voice on the pitch)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2018, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 21, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 21, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
Really good to see our minors win today. Game was far easier than I could of ever hoped for.  St Galls just didn't use the wind at all in the second half.

But it's a second title in 3 years for this group and a county Hurling final next week as well.

The senior game I left at half time. What a big pile of cow dung that was to watch.
Congratulations to Dunloy on this achievement -  a proper GAA club with great facilities, great coaches and great players - the winning combination!

It was def a good feeling seeing them lifting the title again. We waited over 30 years to win it last time so to not have to wait so long again was good to see.

I think it's of no coincidence that since the development committees have been set up for all 3 codes within the club and the academy being completed that we have seen the underage success we have enjoyed. The minor winning team from 2016 were the first group to get in there at underage level and the rest have followed behind them.

Of course a 'building' doesnt Make any success but along with good coaches and organisation and time out into it you see the rewards from it.

This weekend they are in the county Hurling final against lgiel. It would be wonderful to complete the minor double again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 22, 2018, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 22, 2018, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 22, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Another senior title for Cargin and Damien Cassidy. Went exactly as I expected...not much at all between two evenly matched teams. Creggan had 13 wides versus Cargins 5, so that's not a good stat from Creggans point of view.

Reinforces my view that Antrim football is wide open between four or five clubs....as I said at the start of the year! Nothing has changed in that regard.

Well done Cargin. Some great players today. Mick the best player on the pitch, Justy solid, Jamie Gribben well done, Marty Kane made a noticeable difference, Ciaran Bradley superb and the TS express keeps rolling on. The Mc Namee cup is in Toome, enjoy, we will be there to support you against Gweedore, but if you're going to have any kind of crack at Ulster you'll need to be better than today.

Bannside I have to correct your stat Kickams hit 12 wides to Cargins 7 - a lot of wides down to poor shot selection and not judging the conditions, Creggan played with fear of losing and cargin were very happy just to keep ball. Creggan are a good footballing team with pace in abundance -  with a big pitch like ahoghills I felt they could have opened cargin up, very naïve but I have no doubt about it therday will come - I would also expect KM to be at the helm next year again.  As you can tell I am very disappointed by kickams performance think there is a lot more football in them.

Any updates on the manager merry-go-round?

First things first, congrats to CB, I think, while a close game, Cargin deserved to win it. The Creggan lads are disappointed. Think there was a combination of factors that hurt the performance, most notably was Cargin. They did a great job disrupting Creggans running game with a great defensive performance. Think at the end of the day, Creggan were missing an old head up front (Mark Dougan's Absence in terms of free taking and winning frees was a big loss). Very young team, 4 of the forwards were U20, and should learn from this experience)

Well done Cargin and enjoy the well earned celebrations

Fair play Kickham..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 22, 2018, 10:34:17 AM
Congratulations to Cargin on their win. Possibly the worst Antrim Senior Football final I was ever at but a win is a win and at the end of the day Cargin will not care how they got it and they went home with the trophy.

Really glad the minor game was on beforehand to see football the way it should be played by a fantastic Dunloy minor team. The score line flattered st galls the gap between the 2 was a lot more that the 9 point margin at the end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
How will Cargin fair in Ulster. Thats the real question here. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 22, 2018, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
How will Cargin fair in Ulster. Thats the real question here.

Hard to tell based on yesterdays match.  If they are as ponderous going forward then they will not fare well.  If they attack at speed and with combinations like they did against st galls (and in glimpses in yesterdays match), then they have every chance. 

I'd expect a bruising encounter, Gweedore are a physical outfit and wont be  standing back. 

Possibly not one for the neutral again unless Cargin get their noses in front. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 22, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 22, 2018, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 21, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 21, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
Really good to see our minors win today. Game was far easier than I could of ever hoped for.  St Galls just didn't use the wind at all in the second half.

But it's a second title in 3 years for this group and a county Hurling final next week as well.

The senior game I left at half time. What a big pile of cow dung that was to watch.
Congratulations to Dunloy on this achievement -  a proper GAA club with great facilities, great coaches and great players - the winning combination!

It was def a good feeling seeing them lifting the title again. We waited over 30 years to win it last time so to not have to wait so long again was good to see.

I think it's of no coincidence that since the development committees have been set up for all 3 codes within the club and the academy being completed that we have seen the underage success we have enjoyed. The minor winning team from 2016 were the first group to get in there at underage level and the rest have followed behind them.

Of course a 'building' doesnt Make any success but along with good coaches and organisation and time out into it you see the rewards from it.

This weekend they are in the county Hurling final against lgiel. It would be wonderful to complete the minor double again.
I think I know the answer to this but I'll ask anyway - do Dunloy pay outside coaches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2018, 01:53:13 PM
The only ones paid in our club is a strength and conditioning coach in a gym etc. No one that manages any team in any code gets paid in our club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2018, 03:04:48 PM
I think the question he asked was there any coached paid. And there have been, don't want to mention the peoples names as I don't think its fair as its common practise now days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 22, 2018, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2018, 03:04:48 PM
I think the question he asked was there any coached paid. And there have been, don't want to mention the peoples names as I don't think its fair as its common practise now days

There is a significant difference in paying for a Strength and Conditioning person than someone to coach/ manage the team.

Unless you know something the rest of us dont?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 22, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
It's been happening for years. I was at a wedding party a few weeks ago across the bann, one of the oul timers there was talking about it and how his brother got paid 40 years ago in turf and sticks for the winter from a club! Also he got his dinner in a house close to the pitch before "Training"

Personally I don't agree with paying huge amount of money to lads but it's a part of the game now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 22, 2018, 03:16:44 PM
My bad. Forgot to say congratulations to Cargin. Some legacy from a lot of those lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 22, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
Dunsilly King

'I think the question he asked was there any coached paid. And there have been, don't want to mention the peoples names as I don't think its fair as its common practise now days'

I can assure you anyone from Dunloy who has managed or coached at any code has never received a penny.

When on the rare occasion someone from outside the club comes in and coaches etc they will get paid just like every other club in the GAA. You wouldn't expect anyone to travel to another club and put in hours and get nothing for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
I wasn't suggesting you paid your inside coaches, it was in reference to 'Belfast Gaa man' question about paying outside coaches that I responded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2018, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2018, 03:04:48 PM
I think the question he asked was there any coached paid. And there have been, don't want to mention the peoples names as I don't think its fair as its common practise now days

None of our coaches are paid to take any teams.  I dont think I made that any clearer.
If a team wants to pay for a strength and conditioning coach or go to the gym to come in at various stages in the year then they can if they sort it out themselves.

We don't pay anyone to coach a team or manage them. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 22, 2018, 05:21:17 PM
You can be 100% guaranteed that DC will have negotiated a sizable bonus in the event of winning the Mc Namee cup. And whilst the club will not be paying these "additional expenses" lol this duty will indeed fall to a few local businessmen. On top of the basic expense account.

That's largely the nature of the relationship between clubs chasing glory, and paid managers, and like it or not thats the way its going to stay until the Gaa make their rules more transparent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 22, 2018, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on October 22, 2018, 06:50:38 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
RE: League positions

If two teams are on equal points, it goes to head to heads.
If three teams are on equal points, head to heads go out the window and it comes down to points difference.

Same figuring out for next weekend in Div 2.

League Regulations here: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf (https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf)
Point 3.07

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal
points, the following criteria shall be used:

a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the
meetings between the teams shall be the deciding
factor, except for in a one round league where the
deciding factors will be from b to d below .
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus
points conceded in the games played between the
teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be
decided as per b above

For division 2A teams ...rule b to d will apply  as  it was a one round league  and not head to head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 22, 2018, 05:21:17 PM
You can be 100% guaranteed that DC will have negotiated a sizable bonus in the event of winning the Mc Namee cup. And whilst the club will not be paying these "additional expenses" lol this duty will indeed fall to a few local businessmen. On top of the basic expense account.

That's largely the nature of the relationship between clubs chasing glory, and paid managers, and like it or not thats the way its going to stay until the Gaa make their rules more transparent.
[/quote

Pot and kettle springs to mind BS, as does those living in a greenhouse...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 22, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 22, 2018, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on October 22, 2018, 06:50:38 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
RE: League positions

If two teams are on equal points, it goes to head to heads.
If three teams are on equal points, head to heads go out the window and it comes down to points difference.

Same figuring out for next weekend in Div 2.

League Regulations here: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf (https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf)
Point 3.07

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal
points, the following criteria shall be used:

a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the
meetings between the teams shall be the deciding
factor, except for in a one round league where the
deciding factors will be from b to d below .
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus
points conceded in the games played between the
teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be
decided as per b above

For division 2A teams ...rule b to d will apply  as  it was a one round league  and not head to head.

Ah. So even though all teams in 2A will have played each other twice it still counts as a one way league? Flip back to the calculator though I am guessing will still work out as I suggested this morning provided GNM win as rule b will have the same impact as rule a in this instance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 22, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 22, 2018, 01:53:13 PM
The only ones paid in our club is a strength and conditioning coach in a gym etc. No one that manages any team in any code gets paid in our club.
Exactly as  thought. You don't get a coming together like you have in Dunloy with some manager/s being paid and some not. There are a few Belfast clubs who paid in the past and they have fallen down the Divisions since the money ran out and are now having to rebuild through their juveniles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
You live in a black and white world belfast gaa man.

If you can't get volunteers , or more to the point competent volunteers, to look after your team you have to look outside. That's just how it is.

I very much doubt all teams that have to go outside fall down the divisions.

We would all like our clubs to have nothing but local people at the helm but it isn't always feasible and that is not necessarily a reflection on a) the club or b) the people in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 22, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 22, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 22, 2018, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on October 22, 2018, 06:50:38 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
RE: League positions

If two teams are on equal points, it goes to head to heads.
If three teams are on equal points, head to heads go out the window and it comes down to points difference.

Same figuring out for next weekend in Div 2.

League Regulations here: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf (https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf)
Point 3.07

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal
points, the following criteria shall be used:

a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the
meetings between the teams shall be the deciding
factor, except for in a one round league where the
deciding factors will be from b to d below .
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus
points conceded in the games played between the
teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be
decided as per b above

For division 2A teams ...rule b to d will apply  as  it was a one round league  and not head to head.

Ah. So even though all teams in 2A will have played each other twice it still counts as a one way league? Flip back to the calculator though I am guessing will still work out as I suggested this morning provided GNM win as rule b will have the same impact as rule a in this instance.

That's a good point to be fair , was thinking in terms of some teams playing more home than away games . Definitely  a tight call for all three front runners.It could go anyway between  st.brids  , TNog  and GNM. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 22, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 22, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 22, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 22, 2018, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on October 22, 2018, 06:50:38 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: farset on October 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
RE: League positions

If two teams are on equal points, it goes to head to heads.
If three teams are on equal points, head to heads go out the window and it comes down to points difference.

Same figuring out for next weekend in Div 2.

League Regulations here: https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf (https://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2018-All-County-League-Regulations.pdf)
Point 3.07

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal
points, the following criteria shall be used:

a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the
meetings between the teams shall be the deciding
factor, except for in a one round league where the
deciding factors will be from b to d below .
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus
points conceded in the games played between the
teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be
decided as per b above

For division 2A teams ...rule b to d will apply  as  it was a one round league  and not head to head.

Ah. So even though all teams in 2A will have played each other twice it still counts as a one way league? Flip back to the calculator though I am guessing will still work out as I suggested this morning provided GNM win as rule b will have the same impact as rule a in this instance.

That's a good point to be fair , was thinking in terms of some teams playing more home than away games . Definitely  a tight call for all three front runners.It could go anyway between  st.brids  , TNog  and GNM.

Ultimately the real prize is promotion. GNM are my favourites to go up.

Head says St Brides to join them but I hope I am wrong. Nothing against them but Randalstown were my dark horse tip for promotion at the start of the year for anyone who would listen to me so would like to be correct with that one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 22, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Aghagallon beat St Brigid's in the U14 County Final.  More hype  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 23, 2018, 12:33:27 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 22, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
How will Cargin fair in Ulster. Thats the real question here.

Please don't...


ask this question... ...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 23, 2018, 07:53:28 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 22, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Aghagallon beat St Brigid's in the U14 County Final.  More hype  ;)

Yeah look all you can ask for is success and then see if you can breed it through. No guarantees but still better to be winning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 23, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 23, 2018, 07:53:28 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 22, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Aghagallon beat St Brigid's in the U14 County Final.  More hype  ;)

Yeah look all you can ask for is success and then see if you can breed it through. No guarantees but still better to be winning.

We've had a great year at underage alright, winning either SW or County titles at each age group from U12 up.  Added to that our large representation on the MacRory / Hogan winning team.

Biggest disappointment was the semi-final loss to St.Galls in the minor championship.  We just didn't turn up for that game, particularly as there was a real buzz around the team and that it would be our best chance to win a minor title.

Still, as Hectic says, the challenge is transferring that underage success into senior, but hopefully we're going in the right direction!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.

They've been 1st or 2nd in Antrim for over 30 years now, before and after St Galls mighty team and perhaps would have been unstoppable but for the 2000 row (and subsequent suspensions) with St Pauls, which let St Galls emerge from the doldrums.   Surely they deserve some credit, if for nothing else, keeping Antrim club football at a good level?  St Pauls, Johnnies, Portglenone & Lamh Dhearg have failed to stay the course for any more than a few seasons. Perhaps Creggan will be different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.

They've been 1st or 2nd in Antrim for over 30 years now, before and after St Galls mighty team and perhaps would have been unstoppable but for the 2000 row (and subsequent suspensions) with St Pauls, which let St Galls emerge from the doldrums.   Surely they deserve some credit, if for nothing else, keeping Antrim club football at a good level?  St Pauls, Johnnies, Portglenone & Lamh Dhearg have failed to stay the course for any more than a few seasons. Perhaps Creggan will be different

Why would they deserve credit? They are in a championship to win it and being in the top two when there are only two serious contenders (for the most part) to me is not a recipe for greatness.

IMO taking that prviliged position in Antrim (only one team to beat) and developing it into a successful Ulster campaign or even beyond would make them great. However they repeadtedly failed to do so, therefore they can be content with being Antrim Champs but thats as far as it goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2018, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.

They've been 1st or 2nd in Antrim for over 30 years now, before and after St Galls mighty team and perhaps would have been unstoppable but for the 2000 row (and subsequent suspensions) with St Pauls, which let St Galls emerge from the doldrums.   Surely they deserve some credit, if for nothing else, keeping Antrim club football at a good level?  St Pauls, Johnnies, Portglenone & Lamh Dhearg have failed to stay the course for any more than a few seasons. Perhaps Creggan will be different

Why would they deserve credit? They are in a championship to win it and being in the top two when there are only two serious contenders (for the most part) to me is not a recipe for greatness.

IMO taking that prviliged position in Antrim (only one team to beat) and developing it into a successful Ulster campaign or even beyond would make them great. However they repeadtedly failed to do so, therefore they can be content with being Antrim Champs but thats as far as it goes.

Aren't we talking about Antrim Championship here?  Do Crossmaglen look at St Galls and laugh at their 1 AI despite numerous attempts at it? No is the answer.

St Galls are the best team to come out of Antrim - end of - but to deny Cargin as the high level barometer of Antrim football for 30 years is simply incorrect.

Presently there appears no team in Antrim bar St Galls and Cargin to provide such a level.  One wonders if we will see the likes of St Galls / Cargin again.  possibly we will have more competition but at a lower level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.

They've been 1st or 2nd in Antrim for over 30 years now, before and after St Galls mighty team and perhaps would have been unstoppable but for the 2000 row (and subsequent suspensions) with St Pauls, which let St Galls emerge from the doldrums.   Surely they deserve some credit, if for nothing else, keeping Antrim club football at a good level?  St Pauls, Johnnies, Portglenone & Lamh Dhearg have failed to stay the course for any more than a few seasons. Perhaps Creggan will be different

Why would they deserve credit? They are in a championship to win it and being in the top two when there are only two serious contenders (for the most part) to me is not a recipe for greatness.

IMO taking that prviliged position in Antrim (only one team to beat) and developing it into a successful Ulster campaign or even beyond would make them great. However they repeadtedly failed to do so, therefore they can be content with being Antrim Champs but thats as far as it goes.

Aren't we talking about Antrim Championship here?  Do Crossmaglen look at St Galls and laugh at their 1 AI despite numerous attempts at it? No is the answer.

St Galls are the best team to come out of Antrim - end of - but to deny Cargin as the high level barometer of Antrim football for 30 years is simply incorrect.

Presently there appears no team in Antrim bar St Galls and Cargin to provide such a level.  One wonders if we will see the likes of St Galls / Cargin again.  possibly we will have more competition but at a lower level.

I at no point was denying Cargin's Antrim championship pedigree. My arguement was that you called them great, to be great I simply pointed out that for me that to be regarded as that they would have needed to do a bit more than win a two horse race ever year.

The longevity in their competitivenss is to be admired, but again IMO not an arguement for greatness.

It's all a game of opinions in here and I am just expressing mine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 03:50:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
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Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.


They've been 1st or 2nd in Antrim for over 30 years now, before and after St Galls mighty team and perhaps would have been unstoppable but for the 2000 row (and subsequent suspensions) with St Pauls, which let St Galls emerge from the doldrums.   Surely they deserve some credit, if for nothing else, keeping Antrim club football at a good level?  St Pauls, Johnnies, Portglenone & Lamh Dhearg have failed to stay the course for any more than a few seasons. Perhaps Creggan will be different

Why would they deserve credit? They are in a championship to win it and being in the top two when there are only two serious contenders (for the most part) to me is not a recipe for greatness.

IMO taking that prviliged position in Antrim (only one team to beat) and developing it into a successful Ulster campaign or even beyond would make them great. However they repeadtedly failed to do so, therefore they can be content with being Antrim Champs but thats as far as it goes.

Aren't we talking about Antrim Championship here?  Do Crossmaglen look at St Galls and laugh at their 1 AI despite numerous attempts at it? No is the answer.

St Galls are the best team to come out of Antrim - end of - but to deny Cargin as the high level barometer of Antrim football for 30 years is simply incorrect.

Presently there appears no team in Antrim bar St Galls and Cargin to provide such a level.  One wonders if we will see the likes of St Galls / Cargin again.  possibly we will have more competition but at a lower level.

I at no point was denying Cargin's Antrim championship pedigree. My arguement was that you called them great, to be great I simply pointed out that for me that to be regarded as that they would have needed to do a bit more than win a two horse race ever year.

The longevity in their competitivenss is to be admired, but again IMO not an arguement for greatness.

It's all a game of opinions in here and I am just expressing mine.

It is a matter of opinion Nag and indeed you are quite entitled to your own opinion but unless you are from Milltown or indeed MR2 in disguise I would suggest that from your own perspective the team which has won the last 3 from 4 Antrim titles may not be entitled to be called 'great' they would rate well above your own unit.
Would detect a slight tinge of green.... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2018, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 03:50:27 PM
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Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 23, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM
Donegal champions look good so i think cargin are up against it.

Would you suggest that while the Antrim Championship, for the first time in decades looks like a real competition between 4 or 5 clubs, the overall quality of the teams has dipped as Cargin and St Galls have regressed?

You may be right in ur assumption that both Cargin and St Gall's have 'regressed' but the fact is Mac Namee resides in Toome again and are any teams in our county capable of the sort of football produced by those two in that never to be forgotten semi final....

Quick answer - nope, no other teams in Antrim are capable of what Cargin and St Galls brought to the table this year. But was this the swansong of two great teams, and what will we be left with once they are gone?

I would hardly think you can describe the recent Cargin team as 'Great'?

St Galls yes for what they achieved beyond Antrim, but Cargin no.


They've been 1st or 2nd in Antrim for over 30 years now, before and after St Galls mighty team and perhaps would have been unstoppable but for the 2000 row (and subsequent suspensions) with St Pauls, which let St Galls emerge from the doldrums.   Surely they deserve some credit, if for nothing else, keeping Antrim club football at a good level?  St Pauls, Johnnies, Portglenone & Lamh Dhearg have failed to stay the course for any more than a few seasons. Perhaps Creggan will be different

Why would they deserve credit? They are in a championship to win it and being in the top two when there are only two serious contenders (for the most part) to me is not a recipe for greatness.

IMO taking that prviliged position in Antrim (only one team to beat) and developing it into a successful Ulster campaign or even beyond would make them great. However they repeadtedly failed to do so, therefore they can be content with being Antrim Champs but thats as far as it goes.

Aren't we talking about Antrim Championship here?  Do Crossmaglen look at St Galls and laugh at their 1 AI despite numerous attempts at it? No is the answer.

St Galls are the best team to come out of Antrim - end of - but to deny Cargin as the high level barometer of Antrim football for 30 years is simply incorrect.

Presently there appears no team in Antrim bar St Galls and Cargin to provide such a level.  One wonders if we will see the likes of St Galls / Cargin again.  possibly we will have more competition but at a lower level.

I at no point was denying Cargin's Antrim championship pedigree. My arguement was that you called them great, to be great I simply pointed out that for me that to be regarded as that they would have needed to do a bit more than win a two horse race ever year.

The longevity in their competitivenss is to be admired, but again IMO not an arguement for greatness.

It's all a game of opinions in here and I am just expressing mine.

It is a matter of opinion Nag and indeed you are quite entitled to your own opinion but unless you are from Milltown or indeed MR2 in disguise I would suggest that from your own perspective the team which has won the last 3 from 4 Antrim titles may not be entitled to be called 'great' they would rate well above your own unit.
Would detect a slight tinge of green.... ???

Not even a slight tinge of green and not looking to get into a major discussion over it. The point was raised that they were 'great'
IMO winning a two horse in the main would not lead me to think of greatness.

That is just my opinion and of course Cargin people will have a different one which is completely fine by me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 23, 2018, 04:45:18 PM
Have Cargin ever won a match in Ulster? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 23, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
Jaysus lads lets get behind our county champions. They are representing us all at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2018, 07:09:03 PM
Cargin back training tonight.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 23, 2018, 07:15:12 PM
Could we all have a look at ourselves here. 4 south west teams are representing our fine county in Ulster, let's get behind them these next load of weekends and cheer them on.

Spread the love ladies & gents.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 23, 2018, 11:24:28 PM
Quote from: farset on October 23, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
Jesus could you all not quote every conversation?

+1

I was also getting close to asking the same thing...  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2018, 12:18:22 AM
Not long home from SW annual dinner presentation in Dunsilly Hotel. Gaa thriving in country areas, probably getting stronger every year. Teams winning and clubs getting their facilities in order....Moneyglass Glenavy Cargin latest three clubs to have large capital projects ongoing, which will result in superb facilities for future generations.

Michael Hasson reported a very positive upbeat report on new Casement Park project, all Antrim Gaels need this sooner rather than later. But good to hear that our Ulster President feels that we are moving solidly in right direction with the project.

From where it was 20 - 25 years ago, SW Antrim Gaa in rude health. Lisburn now making very positive strides....a huge city with massive potential, and the other large town Ballymena brought home a lot of underage silverware, so those are good barometers too. Dunloy thriving, Aghagallon thriving. Well done to everyone in these clubs making it happen.

Well done SW. 2018 was truly a great year. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 24, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
Are St Pats Lisburn promoted  ?

Have they ever got out of the bottom rung before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2018, 08:59:58 AM
Bs I stopped when I read Lisburn is a huge city ;D

I was wondering that myself gold. I read Lisburn promoted but not sure they have been out of bottom tier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2018, 09:11:19 AM
Lisburn promoted to division two Gold for I think the first time ever.

For those old enough to recall the "O Hara Report" which was delivered around 1996, there were some strong recommendations, the biggest was the development of our games in certain areas - and the development of proper facilities . One was South Belfast and St Brigids have admirably ticked that box. The other big area was Lisburn.....a town with hundreds of "nationalist" families but with a large soccer tradition. This can be a big area of progress too, now that the ball is starting to roll there.

The lower Falls needed a proper facility and now Davitts have obtained that. That's a great asset in a massive soccer playing area. And St Endas are doing a great job too on and off the pitch, in their large catchment area.

Two decades later I think Paddy O Hara would be very happy with the way our county us positioning itself for future growth and prosperity, as many of his strongest recommendations are coming to fruition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
LOL ITG. Does it have a cathedral and all that! Ok there was a bit of artistic licence taken there...but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2018, 09:50:53 AM
 
Quote from: bannside on October 24, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
LOL ITG. Does it have a cathedral and all that! Ok there was a bit of artistic licence taken there...but you know what I mean.

I know :D

I admire your optimism bs and lisburn improving can only be good for us but we are stI'll in a mess with a long way to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 24, 2018, 12:18:22 AM
Not long home from SW annual dinner presentation in Dunsilly Hotel. Gaa thriving in country areas, probably getting stronger every year. Teams winning and clubs getting their facilities in order....Moneyglass Glenavy Cargin latest three clubs to have large capital projects ongoing, which will result in superb facilities for future generations.

Michael Hasson reported a very positive upbeat report on new Casement Park project, all Antrim Gaels need this sooner rather than later. But good to hear that our Ulster President feels that we are moving solidly in right direction with the project.

From where it was 20 - 25 years ago, SW Antrim Gaa in rude health. Lisburn now making very positive strides....a huge city with massive potential, and the other large town Ballymena brought home a lot of underage silverware, so those are good barometers too. Dunloy thriving, Aghagallon thriving. Well done to everyone in these clubs making it happen.

Well done SW. 2018 was truly a great year.
Yes genuine congratulations to SW Antrim gaels on their achievements on and off the pitch. If Snailfast, sorry I mean Gaelfast, ever gets moving we could have a very strong county overall in the future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 24, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
Was it last year that Belfast won everything?

I seem to recall some healthy jesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 24, 2018, 01:53:46 PM
Lisburn improving year on year and I will watch them with interest next year in Div 2. Was Antrim town i.e. Comgalls included in this plan? They had made good progress for a number of years there but have fallen well back this year and took an absolute hammering from Lisburn last day out so maybe have to measure these things over a longer period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
Both regions need to be performing in order to develop a mutual respect and that needs to be earned. The county needs both regions pulling their weight.

I don't know if it's the social media thing but there definitely seems to be a helluva lot more underage activity, blitz competition, challenge competions, go games  etc and more of a coaching focus across the board than say a decade ago. Anyone else see that or am I imagining it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2018, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 24, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 24, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
Was it last year that Belfast won everything?

I seem to recall some healthy jesting.
Yes.
That came after SW won everything the year previous and some serious obituaries posted about Belfast GAA.
It's all guff.

Hi HS mate.. City GAA is finished  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 25, 2018, 08:23:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 24, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
Both regions need to be performing in order to develop a mutual respect and that needs to be earned. The county needs both regions pulling their weight.

I don't know if it's the social media thing but there definitely seems to be a helluva lot more underage activity, blitz competition, challenge competions, go games  etc and more of a coaching focus across the board than say a decade ago. Anyone else see that or am I imagining it?

No, I don't think you're imagining it.  Our end of year party with our U8's (P1 - P4s) we had something like 80 kids there.  But the best thing about it is the amount of parents willing to help and assist the coaches.

I don't think I had a proper training session until I was U12, but now we have kids coming up still in nappies, all decked out in the club gear.  Long may it continue!

As you move up the age groups, the structured Go Games are a godsend as well.  And the week we're not at Go Games there's normally a tournament or a blitz or friendly happening.  It never quits!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2018, 09:49:11 AM
That's fantastic Gs man. I know our club has really upped the ante regarding juveniles too, and it appears many clubs have. This increased attention to our youth at such an early age will pay huge dividends for the next generation.

I've no doubt the two single biggest areas we were underperforming in for many years were (a) lack of quality coaching and game provision for our youngest participants (age 6 to 12) and (b) I don't think our county development squad sector was on par with many other counties for a lengthy period. (For many reasons, lack of finance being a large contributor)

I think these two areas are now improving and are good omens for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
BS you didn't suffer too badly for it with all the minor titles stinsons won so can't have been too bad...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2018, 11:35:44 AM
Just going to say that myself. SS were a serious force back in my day at underage and then on wards with the number of titles that they picked up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 25, 2018, 11:46:28 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 24, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
Are St Pats Lisburn promoted  ?

Have they ever got out of the bottom rung before?


Lisburn must beat st.malachys to ensure promotion to Div 2.

Regulation 3:07  does not clearly establish  how teams are promoted when there is a tie . So st Patrick's need a draw or win to ensure a minimum of 2nd place.

Lisburn played intermediate football in 1990 /1991.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:03:22 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 25, 2018, 11:46:28 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 24, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
Are St Pats Lisburn promoted  ?

Have they ever got out of the bottom rung before?


Lisburn must beat st.malachys to ensure promotion to Div 2.

Regulation 3:07  does not clearly establish  how teams are promoted when there is a tie . So st Patrick's need a draw or win to ensure a minimum of 2nd place.

Lisburn played intermediate football in 1990 /1991.

No I had a good look at that the other day and Lisburn are promoted this year already as 3:07 A would apply in the unlikely event that St Mals beat them. That is they have head to head outcome in their favour against Ardoyne. Effectively the hammering they gave Antrim and Ardoyne losing to Glenravel last weekend assured the fate of Lisburn, Glenravel and Ardoyne for next season and indeed the final standings of all 4 teams.

If I were in Lisburns shoes (and provided they have entered u21 this year) I would get the U21s out on Saturday and get them a competitive game ahead of the Championship. Might be a few teams doing that anyway though hopefully not the like of Moneyglass or others who while have nothing to play for themselves must protect the integrity of competition given they still can have a say in final standings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2018, 11:35:44 AM
Just going to say that myself. SS were a serious force back in my day at underage and then on wards with the number of titles that they picked up.
4 in a row minors in late 90s / early noughties. Two in years where antrim got to the ulster minor final and one where st louis got to a final in croke park so minor football was strong enough then too.

Delgany Lisburn are 2nd in the table on the antrim website and have less of a scoring difference tahn ardoyne on head to head so presumably are getting up on head to head? I am not sure if they can win division 3 but
I think I read they can. If they can then presumably a win would do it as they have a better scoring difference than glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 25, 2018, 12:17:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2018, 11:35:44 AM
Just going to say that myself. SS were a serious force back in my day at underage and then on wards with the number of titles that they picked up.
4 in a row minors in late 90s / early noughties. Two in years where antrim got to the ulster minor final and one where st louis got to a final in croke park so minor football was strong enough then too.

Delgany Lisburn are 2nd in the table on the antrim website and have less of a scoring difference tahn ardoyne on head to head so presumably are getting up on head to head? I am not sure if they can win division 3 but
I think I read they can. If they can then presumably a win would do it as they have a better scoring difference than glenravel.
Head to head applies when teams are on the same points. Lisburn beat Ardoyne twice so are promoted. Glenravel beat Lisburn by 5 and Lisburn beat Glenravel by 4 so Glenravel have better head to head by 1 point so win the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:18:44 PM
Does anyone have full u21 line up fixtures etc or is there a link to it anywhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 25, 2018, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:18:44 PM
Does anyone have full u21 line up fixtures etc or is there a link to it anywhere?

https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/u21f-championship-phase-1 (https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/u21f-championship-phase-1)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 25, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
BS you didn't suffer too badly for it with all the minor titles stinsons won so can't have been too bad...

Maybe give Ahoghill a bit of credit in all this too - SS was an amalgamated team after all.  we'll soon find out if Portglenone can stand on their own two feet or not  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:18:44 PM
Does anyone have full u21 line up fixtures etc or is there a link to it anywhere?

In fact just seeing link now on fixtures section of county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on October 25, 2018, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:18:44 PM
Does anyone have full u21 line up fixtures etc or is there a link to it anywhere?

https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/u21f-championship-phase-1 (https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/u21f-championship-phase-1)

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 25, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
BS you didn't suffer too badly for it with all the minor titles stinsons won so can't have been too bad...

Maybe give Ahoghill a bit of credit in all this too - SS was an amalgamated team after all.  we'll soon find out if Portglenone can stand on their own two feet or not  :)

Aye Ahoghill big contributers to some really good SS teams. Remeber playing against Kellys, Hardys, Graffins etc all big big players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 25, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
BS you didn't suffer too badly for it with all the minor titles stinsons won so can't have been too bad...

Maybe give Ahoghill a bit of credit in all this too - SS was an amalgamated team after all.  we'll soon find out if Portglenone can stand on their own two feet or not  :)

I wasn't not giving them credit - I was just talking about Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 25, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 25, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
BS you didn't suffer too badly for it with all the minor titles stinsons won so can't have been too bad...

Maybe give Ahoghill a bit of credit in all this too - SS was an amalgamated team after all.  we'll soon find out if Portglenone can stand on their own two feet or not  :)

Aye Ahoghill big contributers to some really good SS teams. Remeber playing against Kellys, Hardys, Graffins etc all big big players.

where the graffins not cargin men?

thought Belfast saffrons would have kicked on a bit more at underage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Paddy Graffin was Ahoghill then Cargin then Ahoghill again.

Paddy Logan also probably one of stinsons most vital ever at underage.

Anyway I wasn't taking away from Ahoghill I just think Portglenone(be it through stinsons or not) obviously were doing something right to produce so many decent players last 20 or so years(Madden, Convery, Storeys, McKeever etc etc etc.).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Paddy Graffin was Ahoghill then Cargin then Ahoghill again.

Paddy Logan also probably one of stinsons most vital ever at underage.

Anyway I wasn't taking away from Ahoghill I just think Portglenone(be it through stinsons or not) obviously were doing something right to produce so many decent players last 20 or so years(Madden, Convery, Storeys, McKeever etc etc etc.).

Few McKeevers, McCarry, McCann, Docherty and a good few other Antrim senior players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2018, 07:31:32 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 25, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 25, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
BS you didn't suffer too badly for it with all the minor titles stinsons won so can't have been too bad...

Maybe give Ahoghill a bit of credit in all this too - SS was an amalgamated team after all.  we'll soon find out if Portglenone can stand on their own two feet or not  :)

Aye Ahoghill big contributers to some really good SS teams. Remeber playing against Kellys, Hardys, Graffins etc all big big players.

where the graffins not cargin men?

thought Belfast saffrons would have kicked on a bit more at underage
Don't think the 2 clubs could make it work and parted ways after 1 year just - real pity and their players have sanctioned out all over the place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2018, 08:11:56 AM
What two clubs were involved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on October 26, 2018, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 25, 2018, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Paddy Graffin was Ahoghill then Cargin then Ahoghill again.

Paddy Logan also probably one of stinsons most vital ever at underage.

Anyway I wasn't taking away from Ahoghill I just think Portglenone(be it through stinsons or not) obviously were doing something right to produce so many decent players last 20 or so years(Madden, Convery, Storeys, McKeever etc etc etc.).

Few McKeevers, McCarry, McCann, Docherty and a good few other Antrim senior players.

McKeever more due to genetics. 😜 His cousin played for Antrim and his great uncle captained the County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 26, 2018, 05:30:28 PM
Heard MR2 has emigrated...... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2018, 08:11:56 AM
What two clubs were involved?
St Teresa's and Davitts
What's the story with Ahoghill at juvenile level now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:15:43 AM
St malachys and dunloy have conceded so i think lisburn win 3 if i'm right? Gorts now can't get promoted so division 2 between 3 teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 27, 2018, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:15:43 AM
St malachys and dunloy have conceded so i think lisburn win 3 if i'm right? Gorts now can't get promoted so division 2 between 3 teams.
Think u mean Aldergrove can't get promoted ITG..... ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:48:38 AM
Oops good point. Yes aldergrove.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 27, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Does dunloy' s  scores not be wiped off against other teams as it is seen as an unfair advantage.
If it is , aldergrove  back in it  and st Brigid need to beat TNog, as theybeat dunloy  7 -12  To 0 -8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Under Lights on October 27, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:15:43 AM
St malachys and dunloy have conceded so i think lisburn win 3 if i'm right? Gorts now can't get promoted so division 2 between 3 teams.

Any confirmation that they are champions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on October 27, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:15:43 AM
St malachys and dunloy have conceded so i think lisburn win 3 if i'm right? Gorts now can't get promoted so division 2 between 3 teams.

Any confirmation that they are champions?

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/10/24/con-magees-secure-promotion/?fbclid=IwAR2vtj-HlRQw2Ajuk70JQth9QtRIxrQp-6ZG4zVrXBUxJ56mAYm-YfnHGv8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 10:50:02 AM
Thats a balls that a team that have a say in final outcome are conceding. Absolutely shafts sporting integrity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 11:04:55 AM
And to add to that I would dock points for next season. Heard on grapevine a Div 3 team threw last weekends game. Dont know if that is correct but it is certainly the rumour. If that is the case they effectively ruled out a rivals chance for promotion.

Lads train hard all year to achieve goals so if any skullduggery exists it should be punished where it hurts i.e. on next years league table.

And I exempt St Mals from criticism as their game today was a dead rubber. Had Lisburn and Glenravel been equal on score difference then points scored could have come in but that is hypothetical now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 12:10:06 PM
Scoring difference would be from the matches played between the teams level on points and not other games. If this was still even would go to points scored. In this case you would think the fairest way to do it is to remove scores against teams who did not complete fixtures against competing teams. Would depend what is written in the rules though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 27, 2018, 01:58:04 PM
There s  the thing though. There is no clear explicit rules to deal with any of these scenarios . Poor rules all round 
And definitely need updated and revised
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 27, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
really we need the leagues run off before championship while all teams have some sort of interest in competitive football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 03:32:27 PM
St brigids promoted after beating randalstown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 27, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
really we need the leagues run off before championship while all teams have some sort of interest in competitive football

Agreed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 04:20:27 PM
Gorts win the league. The problem you guys talk about has been a problem for years and is really a problem in any sport. The county season is probably the thing that kills it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 04:46:57 PM
Well done GNM. And of course St Brigids.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Under Lights on October 27, 2018, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on October 27, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:15:43 AM
St malachys and dunloy have conceded so i think lisburn win 3 if i'm right? Gorts now can't get promoted so division 2 between 3 teams.

Any confirmation that they are champions?

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/10/24/con-magees-secure-promotion/?fbclid=IwAR2vtj-HlRQw2Ajuk70JQth9QtRIxrQp-6ZG4zVrXBUxJ56mAYm-YfnHGv8

The table on the Antrim page shows Lisburn top of D3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:05:37 PM
There were a few comments on facebook to suggest the article may not be right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
My money would be on the article being correct and the table wrong having studied the rule. Hairs breadth in it. Anyone from the clubs on here able to confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 27, 2018, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: farset on October 27, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
I see. My apologies then. I just assumed they'd have it correct.

Looking through their results, they both beat each other once. Con Magees once by 5 and St Patrick's once by 4. Does head to heads go to score difference?

A Head to head outcome. B score difference in matches played between the teams. C most points for in season D play off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 28, 2018, 01:07:11 AM
Quote from: farset on October 27, 2018, 09:47:15 PM
Well then in that case Con Magee's are Division 3 league champions by one point.

My guess is that the algorithms on county table have not been expanded to include the extreme outliers. One kick of the ball over the bar is as close as you will ever get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 28, 2018, 01:12:57 AM
And on that basis it has been a hell of a competitive season in Div 3 and an honorable mention to Ardoyne who missed out by a single victory. Hopefully we will see at least one of these clubs continuing forward like Aghagallon, St Endas and St Teresas have in recent seasons. Always good to see different clubs pushing for the top table. Healthy for the spread of interest in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on October 28, 2018, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 28, 2018, 01:12:57 AM
And on that basis it has been a hell of a competitive season in Div 3 and an honorable mention to Ardoyne who missed out by a single victory. Hopefully we will see at least one of these clubs continuing forward like Aghagallon, St Endas and St Teresas have in recent seasons. Always good to see different clubs pushing for the top table. Healthy for the spread of interest in the county.

On the flip side St Paul's as a club shouldn't be in Division 3 and Ardoyne and Antrim are not far off the second teir either. Not sure the high scoring margins helps any club develop. A two section expanded second division might be healthier, leaving a six club Division three more competitive. Would advocate play offs then at end of the year between teams at either end of the divisions for right to enter the division above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 28, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: farset on October 28, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: ned on October 28, 2018, 09:15:05 AM
On the flip side St Paul's as a club shouldn't be in Division 3 and Ardoyne and Antrim are not far off the second teir either. Not sure the high scoring margins helps any club develop. A two section expanded second division might be healthier, leaving a six club Division three more competitive. Would advocate play offs then at end of the year between teams at either end of the divisions for right to enter the division above.

St Paul's are a Div 3 club now because they finished 2nd bottom of Division 2. The only team below them were ODs.

That's the attitude that makes people feel sympathy for them. There has to be parity. Antrim were up in Div 2 recently and got relegated. But longer since Ardoyne were there but they weren't good enough to get promoted unfortunately for them.

The problem with Div 3 is that there are a few clubs which aren't even at All County Div 3 standard. LLL and St Agnes should be playing South Antrim. Antrim only finished 4 points above St Malachy's like!!

League table always a good indicator of where teams are at.

Ardoyne and antrim were the 2 teams relegated from div 2 the previous season. There is a competitive 4-5 teams then a massive drop off going by results but I'm sure that's the case in a lot of counties. Nothing much can be done about it really we can't just keep making divisions bigger because other teams aren't up to standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 28, 2018, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: farset on October 28, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
I'm not sure that Ardoyne were in Div 2 last year. Can't remember them being there

Yes he's right Antrim and ardoyne were in div 2 last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 28, 2018, 12:26:15 PM
Quote from: farset on October 28, 2018, 12:01:44 PM
Well then that indicates that the 4 or 5 clubs at the top of Division 3 are close enough to each other. As someone pointed out, the bottom of the division is where the problems lie but there's no solution to that if those clubs feel like they want to enter that competition bar a change if league format. I don't think this would be appealing to anyone really as they are all OK the way they are.

Can't see another league change really, I don't think there's enough clubs to really change much to make the bottom division any different really. Unless they went back to reserve teams being in the ACL but don't think too many be in favour of that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 29, 2018, 08:31:58 AM
Glenravel well beat or did the late goals flatter the Donegal side?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 29, 2018, 08:35:07 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 29, 2018, 08:31:58 AM
Glenravel well beat or did the late goals flatter the Donegal side?

Just saw result. Depressing seeing our teams well beaten in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 29, 2018, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 29, 2018, 08:31:58 AM
Glenravel well beat or did the late goals flatter the Donegal side?

Two goals (last min and stoppage time) put the gloss on.

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/10/28/late-goals-kill-of-con-magee-hopes-as-red-hughs-book-semi-final-spot/amp/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2018, 09:17:15 AM
The two late goals flattered the scoreline I thought. Glenravel made a great comeback in the third quarter and brought the tie back to within a goal, but Red Hughs found more in the last five minutes to find the net twice and put the gloss on what was a closer game than the scoreline suggests.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 29, 2018, 04:23:55 PM
Mark Sweeney playing for St Judes in the Dublin county final tonight

No mean feat getting to that level

One of Sweeney's friends from home put him in touch with Chris Guckian, the current captain of the senior team. For the Antrim man, getting the right fit for his football and his personality was key.

"Chris phoned me, and we had a couple of chats on the phone, he was just telling me when training was and offering me a lift up, I phoned Kieran McGovern, another one of the players, and his attitude was, 'come up and we will see what you are about'. I was taken a bit aback and then I had the bit between my teeth to prove my worth.

"That's the thing about St Jude's, they will never go chasing players but if you are in the area and you are fit and able to play football and willing to commit to the standards the lads want then you will be welcome.

"I was struck by how close the team were. I'd never seen that before in a group, it was something that was infectious, I couldn't get over how these lads had created such an honest environment where they were challenging each other verbally and physically in every single training session, the sole purpose was to get the best out of each other and the team. That was completely new to me even with Antrim and Queen's University, I just thought this was class and something I could really get my teeth into.

"You are at inter-county level when you are competing at senior in Dublin, especially at this stage of the competition, the pace, the thought process is up there. When you are coming from intermediate, it was a massive step up the first couple of years. It was more a step up in mindset, even compared to some of the county set-ups - it surpasses some of them."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 30, 2018, 04:04:14 PM
Three nominated for County chair...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Under Lights on October 30, 2018, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 29, 2018, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 29, 2018, 08:31:58 AM
Glenravel well beat or did the late goals flatter the Donegal side?

Two goals (last min and stoppage time) put the gloss on.

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/10/28/late-goals-kill-of-con-magee-hopes-as-red-hughs-book-semi-final-spot/amp/

Have they been presented with the league trophy yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 30, 2018, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2018, 04:04:14 PM
Three nominated for County chair...........
Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 31, 2018, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 30, 2018, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2018, 04:04:14 PM
Three nominated for County chair...........
Who?
Ciaran Mc Cavanagh, Joe Edwards, and Owen Elliot according to Gaelic Life.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2018, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 31, 2018, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 30, 2018, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 30, 2018, 04:04:14 PM
Three nominated for County chair...........
Who?
Ciaran Mc Cavanagh, Joe Edwards, and Owen Elliot according to Gaelic Life.......
3 experienced men there . Good to see. Would be good to hear their visions for the future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Hmmm certainly at least one name there would not have me dancing a jig but sure we prob all have our own views.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Hmmm certainly at least one name there would not have me dancing a jig but sure we prob all have our own views.

Hard for JE to make good on his past, CMcC know very little about & carries the hopes & support & PR of the SV machine now that Collies away, same faces behind this lad so is it going to be any different?  OE genuine straight arrow, would be good to hear what he has to say, doesn't do bells and whistles (pardon the pun) his commitment and record to the County is without question though,  may bring a much needed fresh approach.... However that doesn't get you votes in this day and age   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 03, 2018, 09:05:42 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Hmmm certainly at least one name there would not have me dancing a jig but sure we prob all have our own views.

Hard for JE to make good on his past, CMcC know very little about & carries the hopes & support & PR of the SV machine now that Collies away, same faces behind this lad so is it going to be any different?  OE genuine straight arrow, would be good to hear what he has to say, doesn't do bells and whistles (pardon the pun) his commitment and record to the County is without question though,  may bring a much needed fresh approach.... However that doesn't get you votes in this day and age

Look out at the reality of what the u21 championship is facing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 03, 2018, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Hmmm certainly at least one name there would not have me dancing a jig but sure we prob all have our own views.

Hard for JE to make good on his past, CMcC know very little about & carries the hopes & support & PR of the SV machine now that Collies away, same faces behind this lad so is it going to be any different?  OE genuine straight arrow, would be good to hear what he has to say, doesn't do bells and whistles (pardon the pun) his commitment and record to the County is without question though,  may bring a much needed fresh approach.... However that doesn't get you votes in this day and age

The question I would ask and it should be the criteria applied when giving a vote, what strategic abilities have they displayed in their careers, both in the business and clubs they served in. A chairman has to have a vision, a track record in delivering. Being committed and having served in committees isn't enough at this level. This role requires vision, determination and networking skills. Give me a dyed in the wool gaa man who has a successful business back ground any day for this job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2018, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 03, 2018, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Hmmm certainly at least one name there would not have me dancing a jig but sure we prob all have our own views.

Hard for JE to make good on his past, CMcC know very little about & carries the hopes & support & PR of the SV machine now that Collies away, same faces behind this lad so is it going to be any different?  OE genuine straight arrow, would be good to hear what he has to say, doesn't do bells and whistles (pardon the pun) his commitment and record to the County is without question though,  may bring a much needed fresh approach.... However that doesn't get you votes in this day and age

The question I would ask and it should be the criteria applied when giving a vote, what strategic abilities have they displayed in their careers, both in the business and clubs they served in. A chairman has to have a vision, a track record in delivering. Being committed and having served in committees isn't enough at this level. This role requires vision, determination and networking skills. Give me a dyed in the wool gaa man who has a successful business back ground any day for this job
sounds like a vote for c mc c?
JE wasn't the chairperson secretary or treasurer on the former county board. R u ruling out everyone from that era?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 04, 2018, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 03, 2018, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2018, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 01, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Hmmm certainly at least one name there would not have me dancing a jig but sure we prob all have our own views.

Hard for JE to make good on his past, CMcC know very little about & carries the hopes & support & PR of the SV machine now that Collies away, same faces behind this lad so is it going to be any different?  OE genuine straight arrow, would be good to hear what he has to say, doesn't do bells and whistles (pardon the pun) his commitment and record to the County is without question though,  may bring a much needed fresh approach.... However that doesn't get you votes in this day and age

The question I would ask and it should be the criteria applied when giving a vote, what strategic abilities have they displayed in their careers, both in the business and clubs they served in. A chairman has to have a vision, a track record in delivering. Being committed and having served in committees isn't enough at this level. This role requires vision, determination and networking skills. Give me a dyed in the wool gaa man who has a successful business back ground any day for this job

To fair DK that's a dangerous and slightly naïve position to take, the GAA family: clubs, teams, &  county are made up of people from all backgrounds and abilities, that's why we are the envy of so many sports out there, from MD's to tradespeople  who all do a successful and fantastic job. So in your opinion just because you run a successful business guarantee's you will be a successful county chair? CmcC may be successful individual in his personal life and well done to him, however he is by association the selected candidate of SV by the looks of it, decisions will be guided in the future by people/group that put him there surely based on the past.  Different face same message and delivery possibly, the question begs then what will change? Don't get me wrong they have done a fantastic job raising profile and money btw and full credit where its due.  We only need to look at the previous chair and how going off message or not meeting alleged commitments or agreements resulted in a changing of the front guard. I'm not saying CmcC wont have the ability to deliver or do a great job, however does he have the freedom to deliver his vision or agenda? I'm going to go to this CCC/ club meeting tomorrow night and hear what the real issues where with the fixtures and the reserve my own judgement til after the on OE. Personally JE imo had his chance and just alienated the county as a whole with his my way or no way approach. So imo its a two horse race plain and simple which is disappointing I would have loved to have seen 3 or 4 running.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2018, 10:30:42 AM
This meeting tomorrow night to address the fixtures issue should be applauded. This is an opportunity for club officials to attempt to understand the problems the schedulers have, and they are numerous. Trust me there is no easy fix to this, but if anyone thinks they can magically provide a solution, well I'm sure your contribution will be most welcome. That will be a lot better than coming on here blaming people who devote hours and hours of their time trying to make sure our games run off as smoothly as possible.

I was at a CC meeting around March when fixtures was the big item on the clar. I vividly recall JE speaking from the floor (as a St Paul's club delegate, not a county board delegate) saying that having done the job himself in the past, and now with so many new regulations from Croke Pk about enforced closed Sunday's for inter county fixtures, that in Joes exact words "the issue has reached a point where it is impossible, that quite simply three into two won't go"!

So to anyone who wants to use fixture congestion as a stick to beat county board, (no matter who the top two or three executive officials are) is plain wrong....and if you care to attend tomorrow night with your proposed solutions, I'm certain you will get a first hand understanding of the complexity of the situation.

This current (outgoing) board should be applauded for facilitating this meeting, instead of burying their heads and pretending there isn't a problem in the area of fixtures. That's my view anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2018, 01:54:03 PM
Good win for st endas. Seemed comfortable enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 04, 2018, 06:10:08 PM
Good to see St Endas keeping the flag flying.

Re fixtures. What works in other counties?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2018, 07:00:45 PM
Superb win for St Enda Well done to Fitzy, Pat Hughes and all involved. Push on now for the provincial.

Cargin went out with their swords up but that was an excellent Gweedore team. Hard to beat fast one touch football with the superb Cian Mulligan best on view. Cargin to their credit didn't throw in the towel and only for conceding an unlucky goal near the end might have taken the game to a replay.

I didn't think Michael Magill did enough wrong to be taken off. Think DC got that call wrong, especially when Cargin had the breeze in the second half. A lot of Cargin support around me thought the same.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 05, 2018, 10:23:21 AM
Yep Cargin will rue the last ten mins of the first half where there was brutal a opening up of their defence. They kicked a few into the keepers hands, which against a running team, is criminal. Looked a different set up completely in the 2nd half, much more mobile and aggressive which Gaoth Dobhair struggled with but, with such a forward press, were susceptible on the counter attack and ultimately proved their undoing with the last goal.  Goath Dobhair weaved some lovely patterns and have the support game down to a tee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: farset on November 05, 2018, 12:31:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't

I am and my club have too. These GAA prostitutes have become completely acceptable.unfortunately.

Even in a big club with past players of great quality and excellent experience of big games find it difficult to entice these ex players into taking their club team, that's sad but there are a few factors, underachieving and being the brunt of your fellow clubmens criticism is one reason, time and commitment another, management skills and passion another, easier to play than manage..

An outsider no baggage and with ability to commit to looking after a senior set up for three years is harder than you may think

Now the likes of Dunloy and Loughgiel do very on this and hopefully that continues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 05, 2018, 01:07:50 PM
Cant expect an outsider to come in and do it for nothing. He is giving up his family/free time , possibly putting work commitments on hold for the benefit of another club. Nothing wrong with an outsider being paid but I agree some are taking the micky out of it getting 100 quid for a hour and a half session - Madness!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: farset on November 05, 2018, 12:59:40 PM
And where does this money come from? The hard fundraising efforts of members straight into the pockets of people like those mentioned.

If they are so passionate about our games, they'd do it for free.

Unless the club has a few quid (and trust me no club has the money like they did) it's coming from a rich benefactor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 05, 2018, 01:24:10 PM
You don't know Pat Hughes situation with ODS so there should be no further comment.

Players do it for the love of their clubs, for their families and communities.

Wouldn't be to many outside managers if it was just travel costs - sadly that's the GAA now and doesn't look like changing anytime soon

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 01:32:09 PM
Think you are making a lot of accusations without knowing too many facts, unless you want to share this info.. as I've said the club in most cases won't be paying expenses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 05, 2018, 01:34:56 PM
Agree with MR2. Often not the club but good business men from the club who want to see some success at senior level. Imagine wanting your own club to succeed what an awful thought  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 02:16:05 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/fixtures-review-club-forum

Fixtures review tonight, what's the outcome?

I think if they split div 1 up they may as well just properly reconfigure the leagues to 4.

Div 1/2: 8 teams
Div 3/4: 9 teams

On one hand that step up from div 2 will be even more daunting now, but frankly you can't see much changing from the way it is now.

Also chatting with some other lads as to why reserve teams were ever pushed into their own leagues? It'll own serve to strengthen football and the teams that are involved and give a chance at development for younger lads compared to now where one week you might play a reserve team that'll duff you and the next might end up with a no show.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: farset on November 05, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 05, 2018, 01:07:50 PM
Cant expect an outsider to come in and do it for nothing. He is giving up his family/free time , possibly putting work commitments on hold for the benefit of another club. Nothing wrong with an outsider being paid but I agree some are taking the micky out of it getting 100 quid for a hour and a half session - Madness!

Are the players not taking time out, away from their families and putting work commitments on hold?

I have no problem reimbursing their travel costs but ultimately I think its an ego thing with a lot of them and not a service offered from some sort of sympathy for the requesting club.

If it's for the love of the game then take a team in your own club either at U8 level or at senior. If those positions are taken then spend time with your family or don't put the work commitments on hold. Or do it for free.vecause you love it.

It's a disgrace in my opinion. Like your man Pat Hughes... His club is clearly struggling yet he is out getting paid by another club who had to fund raise to pay him. No other word for it but mercenary.

I presume you're an O'Dees man?  Sure O'Dees pay a fortune to managers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 05, 2018, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: farset on November 05, 2018, 12:59:40 PM
And where does this money come from? The hard fundraising efforts of members straight into the pockets of people like those mentioned.

If they are so passionate about our games, they'd do it for free.

Unless the club has a few quid (and trust me no club has the money like they did) it's coming from a rich benefactor

Yeah this sort of funding comes from an individual or a syndicate specifically for this purpose. Club fundraising has enough directions to go and does not qualify for spend on one of many teams fielded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't
This year fairly sure LD, St Pauls, St Teresas, St Galls, Rossa and St Johns aren't paying their senior football managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't
This year fairly sure LD, St Pauls, St Teresas, St Galls, Rossa and St Johns aren't paying their senior football managers

I'm sure all have in the past though, and thats my point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2018, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't
This year fairly sure LD, St Pauls, St Teresas, St Galls, Rossa and St Johns aren't paying their senior football managers

I'm sure all have in the past though, and thats my point
I think you are wrong on this - only think St Pauls did in the past
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bit of banter on November 05, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
Farset your attack on Pat Hughes is a disgrace, wonder would you be as quick to say it to his face. Pat is along with Fitzy, i dont know him to be a coach or manager but a very good friend of Franks who travels the country watching football. Hes a former Chairman of the o donnells club who has no doubt put his whole life into the club and was heavily involved with them winning a few junior championships. Why have u singled out Frank and Pat at St Endas, plenty of clubs paying managers. Is it right or wrong is a debate but to pick certain people out on a forum where u can hode behind your key board is very poor. Pats certainly not responsible for ODs poor showing this year or any year but i know hes a true ODs member, supporter and volunteer. St Endas have a great man helping out with their senior team SO WHAT !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 05, 2018, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: bit of banter on November 05, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
Farset your attack on Pat Hughes is a disgrace, wonder would you be as quick to say it to his face. Pat is along with Fitzy, i dont know him to be a coach or manager but a very good friend of Franks who travels the country watching football. Hes a former Chairman of the o donnells club who has no doubt put his whole life into the club and was heavily involved with them winning a few junior championships. Why have u singled out Frank and Pat at St Endas, plenty of clubs paying managers. Is it right or wrong is a debate but to pick certain people out on a forum where u can hode behind your key board is very poor. Pats certainly not responsible for ODs poor showing this year or any year but i know hes a true ODs member, supporter and volunteer. St Endas have a great man helping out with their senior team SO WHAT !
Indeed it is, there's plenty of instances you could have quoted long before you might have cast so much as a glance at Pat and Frank. While I was never an advocate for paid managers in my experience players can sometimes take the piss if they have been looking at the same club coaches for years and years. Often they feel they are ready to go to the next level and the club coach hasn't got what it takes, more often than not money spent makes little or no difference. Hence all so called paid managers should not be tarred with the same brush.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2018, 05:19:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't
This year fairly sure LD, St Pauls, St Teresas, St Galls, Rossa and St Johns aren't paying their senior football managers

I'm sure all have in the past though, and thats my point
Honestly can't remember Rossa paying anyone.

Probably correct on that one, struggling to remember an outside manager at Rossa and I'm going back a few more years than yourself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges

The lad made a post and people commented on it and discussed it. Settle Petal!

Reserve leagues are hard to call. Some clubs struggle to put out 2 teams and I think a 13 a side game would be better for reserve teams. Possibly a bit more common sense used with fixtures also. One problems could be refs for all these games!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges

The lad made a post and people commented on it and discussed it. Settle Petal!

Reserve leagues are hard to call. Some clubs struggle to put out 2 teams and I think a 13 a side game would be better for reserve teams. Possibly a bit more common sense used with fixtures also. One problems could be refs for all these games!

Sure there's plenty of refs!

We had the reserves into lower leagues before, I thought it worked well, though we'd decent numbers

We had a div 4 and div 3 team as did Cargin, we also had entered a team in div 4 hurling and won the leagues two years in a row..

leagues shouldn't all be on a Sunday, games can be played Friday and Saturday nights come the summer, think other counties do this so be interesting to hear how it works
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges

The lad made a post and people commented on it and discussed it. Settle Petal!

Reserve leagues are hard to call. Some clubs struggle to put out 2 teams and I think a 13 a side game would be better for reserve teams. Possibly a bit more common sense used with fixtures also. One problems could be refs for all these games!

Sure there's plenty of refs!

We had the reserves into lower leagues before, I thought it worked well, though we'd decent numbers

We had a div 4 and div 3 team as did Cargin, we also had entered a team in div 4 hurling and won the leagues two years in a row..

leagues shouldn't all be on a Sunday, games can be played Friday and Saturday nights come the summer, think other counties do this so be interesting to hear how it works

Exactly, a Cargin/Galls reserve team would give a fair number of teams a hard time and allows teams to build depth. Mean that the games being played would allow biggers clubs with more players to get more football and more football means less drop off. Most of it all it stops the current reserve set up to stop being a pub team spectacle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges

The lad made a post and people commented on it and discussed it. Settle Petal!

Reserve leagues are hard to call. Some clubs struggle to put out 2 teams and I think a 13 a side game would be better for reserve teams. Possibly a bit more common sense used with fixtures also. One problems could be refs for all these games!

Sure there's plenty of refs!

We had the reserves into lower leagues before, I thought it worked well, though we'd decent numbers

We had a div 4 and div 3 team as did Cargin, we also had entered a team in div 4 hurling and won the leagues two years in a row..

leagues shouldn't all be on a Sunday, games can be played Friday and Saturday nights come the summer, think other counties do this so be interesting to hear how it works

Nice to see you back, although I saw enough of you over the last few weeks.  :-X

Same old faces with the whistle in both codes which doesn't do anybody any good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges

The lad made a post and people commented on it and discussed it. Settle Petal!

Reserve leagues are hard to call. Some clubs struggle to put out 2 teams and I think a 13 a side game would be better for reserve teams. Possibly a bit more common sense used with fixtures also. One problems could be refs for all these games!

Sure there's plenty of refs!

We had the reserves into lower leagues before, I thought it worked well, though we'd decent numbers

We had a div 4 and div 3 team as did Cargin, we also had entered a team in div 4 hurling and won the leagues two years in a row..

leagues shouldn't all be on a Sunday, games can be played Friday and Saturday nights come the summer, think other counties do this so be interesting to hear how it works

Nice to see you back, although I saw enough of you over the last few weeks.  :-X

Same old faces with the whistle in both codes which doesn't do anybody any good.

Course starts in January, I'd be keen to see fresh new blood
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 05, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Christ you lot would rather bicker about him and him than actually discuss football. Completely endemic of whats wrong with this county, politics and grudges

The lad made a post and people commented on it and discussed it. Settle Petal!

Reserve leagues are hard to call. Some clubs struggle to put out 2 teams and I think a 13 a side game would be better for reserve teams. Possibly a bit more common sense used with fixtures also. One problems could be refs for all these games!

Sure there's plenty of refs!

We had the reserves into lower leagues before, I thought it worked well, though we'd decent numbers

We had a div 4 and div 3 team as did Cargin, we also had entered a team in div 4 hurling and won the leagues two years in a row..

leagues shouldn't all be on a Sunday, games can be played Friday and Saturday nights come the summer, think other counties do this so be interesting to hear how it works

Nice to see you back, although I saw enough of you over the last few weeks.  :-X

Same old faces with the whistle in both codes which doesn't do anybody any good.

Course starts in January, I'd be keen to see fresh new blood

I've hung my whistle up pal. Oul hamstring couldn't take it anymore.

I much prefer a white coat these days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah you've said that before.. I doubt it though.

Referees who do the fitness tests and pass the written tests do the championship games. That's why you have the same faces PJ. You being an aul ref would know that surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah you've said that before.. I doubt it though.

Referees who do the fitness tests and pass the written tests do the championship games. That's why you have the same faces PJ. You being an aul ref would know that surely?

Don't doubt me mate, you know nothing about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah you've said that before.. I doubt it though.

Referees who do the fitness tests and pass the written tests do the championship games. That's why you have the same faces PJ. You being an aul ref would know that surely?

Don't doubt me mate, you know nothing about it.
[/quote

You're just an anonymous hackler on discussion board as far as I know, until I know you personally then I'll hold judgment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah you've said that before.. I doubt it though.

Referees who do the fitness tests and pass the written tests do the championship games. That's why you have the same faces PJ. You being an aul ref would know that surely?

Don't doubt me mate, you know nothing about it.
[/quote

You're just an anonymous hackler on discussion board as far as I know, until I know you personally then I'll hold judgment.

Only you could take a simple comment and twist it. I thought your recent warning from the powers that be would of been enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah you've said that before.. I doubt it though.

Referees who do the fitness tests and pass the written tests do the championship games. That's why you have the same faces PJ. You being an aul ref would know that surely?

Don't doubt me mate, you know nothing about it.
[/quote

You're just an anonymous hackler on discussion board as far as I know, until I know you personally then I'll hold judgment.

Only you could take a simple comment and twist it. I thought your recent warning from the powers that be would of been enough.

Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Yeah you've said that before.. I doubt it though.

Referees who do the fitness tests and pass the written tests do the championship games. That's why you have the same faces PJ. You being an aul ref would know that surely?

Don't doubt me mate, you know nothing about it.
[/quote

You're just an anonymous hackler on discussion board as far as I know, until I know you personally then I'll hold judgment.

Only you could take a simple comment and twist it. I thought your recent warning from the powers that be would of been enough.

Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw

Right well now you've had your rant, can we discuss as adults?

How many nights a week were you out on average last season? And how many nights a week were you involved with the same club? my own club had Vincent Boyle 5 nights out of the 7 one week and 4 the next week. Now, how fair is that on my club and on Vincent? Surely you'd get scunnered coming to one club all the time. In no way am I criticising refs or the county board, I'm merely stating that extra reserve games could impact on refs. Reserve leagues are something that need looked at as it's been poor at times as last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on November 05, 2018, 11:33:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2018, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
If you're from a Belfast club Farset then they will have brought a manager in, I can't think of one which hasn't
This year fairly sure LD, St Pauls, St Teresas, St Galls, Rossa and St Johns aren't paying their senior football managers

I'm sure all have in the past though, and thats my point

St. John's have never paid a manager in any code.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 05, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw
[/quote]


Why bite ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 05, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw


Why bite ?
[/quote]

Bite on what? I made the observation and it was twisted.

What was the outcome of the meeting does anybody know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 06, 2018, 12:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 05, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw


Why bite ?


To be fair to the CCC they presented all the issues and Owen Elliott spoke very honestly about the constraints with Croke & Ulster before you even get basic fixtures on the calendar. I genuinely had no idea of the time & commitment involved so I tip my hat to them I certainly wouldn't be arsed or have the patience to do it. Joe E I thought spoke well with his contributions around player burn out etc however I personally felt he was using it as a platform for the up coming elections. It was a great idea to open it to all for anyone who had an idea or criticism to have there say, it was refreshing on that point alone. Some people unfairly imo had a pop at the start of the meeting around loyalty's i.e. Hurling/Football but that was dealt with and we got down to the problems fairly quickly. Thought there would have been a bigger turnout and disappointing to see to very few players in attendance.  I'm a fan of this approach and it should be a more regular event across all the issues in the county, whoever the incoming executive are they should take heed from what was a positive and constructive forum.

Bite on what? I made the observation and it was twisted.

What was the outcome of the meeting does anybody know?
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2018, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 06, 2018, 12:31:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 05, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw


Why bite ?


To be fair to the CCC they presented all the issues and Owen Elliott spoke very honestly about the constraints with Croke & Ulster before you even get basic fixtures on the calendar. I genuinely had no idea of the time & commitment involved so I tip my hat to them I certainly wouldn't be arsed or have the patience to do it. Joe E I thought spoke well with his contributions around player burn out etc however I personally felt he was using it as a platform for the up coming elections. It was a great idea to open it to all for anyone who had an idea or criticism to have there say, it was refreshing on that point alone. Some people unfairly imo had a pop at the start of the meeting around loyalty's i.e. Hurling/Football but that was dealt with and we got down to the problems fairly quickly. Thought there would have been a bigger turnout and disappointing to see to very few players in attendance.  I'm a fan of this approach and it should be a more regular event across all the issues in the county, whoever the incoming executive are they should take heed from what was a positive and constructive forum.

Bite on what? I made the observation and it was twisted.

What was the outcome of the meeting does anybody know?
[/quote]Where there any proposals from CCC about how they might do things better next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 05, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Warning? Now you're making things up now.  I was asked to not talk about games that I could be involved with, not fair as some people think I'd be biased, agsin no one at county level believes that refs would be biased, otherwise they wouldn't get games!

I did just that, senior championship is over now. I was still on the site btw


Why bite ?

Bite on what? I made the observation and it was twisted.

What was the outcome of the meeting does anybody know?
[/quote]

I had written a post last night but my phone died!

Anyways the point of my rant to you was the,

"Same old faces with the whistle in both codes which doesn't do anybody any good." something that does not encourage people to stay refereeing or bringing in new faces

In relation to fixing the reserve leagues,

Finding a formula to put it into a workable fixture program is the hardest part.

Games should be fixed for Friday and Saturday nights along with the normal Wednesday and Sunday fixtures. This will help with in a few ways, more neutrals able to watch a number of games more exposure of players to county managers and a welcome increase at the gate, works great for a club entering 2 teams as the flexibility of getting two teams out over the weekend is easier than at the same day..
A robust grading system to ensure there is no senior players playing for the reserves (B) team needs to be monitored and clubs need to be honest also. This doesn't address the player who won't play for the reserves as he feels that's a step down to sitting on the bench, whereas if it was on a different day the senior manager will take that game in and see what's on offer rather than what he sees at the training pitch

Clubs at the start of the year need to know full well what's available team wise before entering teams in leagues and championships a panel needs to be 25 strong, injuries suspensions and holiday's (stags) will be able to facilitate the natural drop off over the season.. I've seen senior managers having to play most seasons at least once or twice in games that I have been involved, It should get to that though

Back, not in the too distant past, we did have the reserve teams playing in lower leagues as a stand alone team, I thought it worked well and we had 3 teams at senior level in total plus a Southy team, Cargin were able to have the same, so it allowed players (like myself) to play against senior teams of a different level to your own club. We did it at hurling also and our second team at the time managed promotion twice, we did it as the South Antrim league stopped one year and we asked to go All county and they said no problem...
As for not enough refs to do the games this will always be a problem as you have ejjits coming on during the game or after the game abusing referees, why anyone would put their name forward to be a ref is beyond me, I started refereeing about 10 years or more, I stopped a couple of times while I took our senior team (though did the odd juvenile games)
In my view there far more abuse to referees now than back then.. Believe it or not you have keyboard warriors hiding behind the computer naming refs' and verbally/bullying referees, this is something they find acceptable.. certainly criticism is fair enough as like players ref's won't get everything right but I seen it at the minor hurling final replay, the senior football final and some drunkard did it at the senior hurling final, I even had a scribe of note verbally abuse me after the Cargin v Lamhs game, I should have reported him but I give him enough stick on here

As for Vincent doing so many of your games that's one reason, he's probably close to the ground, I do a lot of St Enda's games as its nearby, and don't feel embarrassed at all, handier for me, the players generally know my style of ref'ing so not an issue


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on November 06, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Down football has:
All County FL 1-4
AC reserve football league (decent standard, possibly like Div3)
East Down/South Down reserve league (for weaker seconds teams and thirds teams)

Championship status aligned with league status and winners must move up a grade the following season.

I feel that structure works very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 06, 2018, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: outinfront on November 06, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Down football has:
All County FL 1-4
AC reserve football league (decent standard, possibly like Div3)
East Down/South Down reserve league (for weaker seconds teams and thirds teams)

Championship status aligned with league status and winners must move up a grade the following season.

I feel that structure works very well.

Are most senior football games played on a friday night in Down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2018, 05:09:16 PM
Anything about minor leagues discussed last night? quite a few no fields in A and B leagues this year....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2018, 06:55:36 PM
I'd say if we had a dozen more good floodlit pitches, particularly in the city, that would give the fixture organisers a better chance of rattling through the backlog. Of course it's not a sole solution but it's worth noting there are 28 floodlit pitches in Derry and I'd hazard a guess roughly the same in Down. Tyrone have more than that, well into the thirties I'd be prepared to wager.

How many football playing clubs in Antrim have floodlights? Anyone want to list them...it won't take long!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 06, 2018, 06:57:17 PM
Casement Park had floodlights....look what happened there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2018, 06:55:36 PM
I'd say if we had a dozen more good floodlit pitches, particularly in the city, that would give the fixture organisers a better chance of rattling through the backlog. Of course it's not a sole solution but it's worth noting there are 28 floodlit pitches in Derry and I'd hazard a guess roughly the same in Down. Tyrone have more than that, well into the thirties I'd be prepared to wager.

How many football playing clubs in Antrim have floodlights? Anyone want to list them...it won't take long!

Tir na og
Ahoghill
PG1
Toome
Ballymena

The 4 council set ups in Belfast.. Ormeau Park, Cricky, Sally Gardens & the college near O'Dees.

Do Lamh Dhearg or St Galls have lights?

Any other that I've missed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 07:58:28 PM
St Marys college and Queens have flood lights, Lamhs will have flood lights once their new pitch is done. We have none, I'd be happy to get new changing rooms..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 06, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
MR2, St Marys and Queens aren't Antrim clubs. So none in Belfast 🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 06, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2018, 06:55:36 PM
I'd say if we had a dozen more good floodlit pitches, particularly in the city, that would give the fixture organisers a better chance of rattling through the backlog. Of course it's not a sole solution but it's worth noting there are 28 floodlit pitches in Derry and I'd hazard a guess roughly the same in Down. Tyrone have more than that, well into the thirties I'd be prepared to wager.

How many football playing clubs in Antrim have floodlights? Anyone want to list them...it won't take long!

Tir na og
Ahoghill
PG1
Toome
Ballymena

The 4 council set ups in Belfast.. Ormeau Park, Cricky, Sally Gardens & the college near O'Dees.

Do Lamh Dhearg or St Galls have lights?

Any other that I've missed?

Falls park now has a floodlit pitch. 3G
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 06, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2018, 06:55:36 PM
I'd say if we had a dozen more good floodlit pitches, particularly in the city, that would give the fixture organisers a better chance of rattling through the backlog. Of course it's not a sole solution but it's worth noting there are 28 floodlit pitches in Derry and I'd hazard a guess roughly the same in Down. Tyrone have more than that, well into the thirties I'd be prepared to wager.

How many football playing clubs in Antrim have floodlights? Anyone want to list them...it won't take long!

Tir na og
Ahoghill
PG1
Toome
Ballymena

The 4 council set ups in Belfast.. Ormeau Park, Cricky, Sally Gardens & the college near O'Dees.

Do Lamh Dhearg or St Galls have lights?

Any other that I've missed?

Falls park now has a floodlit pitch. 3G

Yes forgot that, have done couple games there, great set up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
We'd better not get into covered stands then. Not one in the county.

It takes a hell of a lot of work to put proper facilities in place and maybe we have to ask ourselves if we really do have the same passion for GAA as there are in other counties.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 06, 2018, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
We'd better not get into covered stands then. Not one in the county.



It takes a hell of a lot of work to put proper facilities in place and maybe we have to ask ourselves if we really do have the same passion for GAA as there are in other counties.

Take a wee trip to Toome BS......find the passion... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 11:27:22 PM
So BS people in Belfast or North Antrim don't have passion for the GAA because they don't have stands at their pitches? MR2 gives up 7 nights a week to ref but he has no passion as his club doesn't have a stand? I help out with my daughters Un8 Camogie team and umpire for a club ref when asked, I don't have passion as my club has no stand?

Fair play to those clubs who have stands and who have improved their grounds but I'd rather have a trophy cabinet full of county titles and an All Ireland than a stand.

Fir Coat and no knickers come to mind in some cases.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 07, 2018, 08:47:17 AM
Floodlights in Aghagallon too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2018, 09:15:09 AM
In Belfast we had decent facilities 30 odd years ago compared with the country teams and we had a social club that paid for things and so on, we didnt need to do fundraising and lottos, we had a brand new club with 2 new prunty pitches, but with the peace process kicking in people started heading into town, the clubs that were making a few pound lost their steady money and everything became harder.

Dual clubs funding teams from under 12 up were finding it difficult, hurls aint cheap and there was never a juvenile membership, kids never paid a fee at the start of the year and thats only lately come in.. plans to have floodlights were put in place by us many years ago, never happened though as the money dried up.

We have over the past 15 plus years though got into using our big memebership and fundraising is the only way we can bring money into the club for development, the bar is still there but it would being doing just enough to cover some expenses (I could be corrected by my mate though)

So this is were we are at, we've tried going down the route of drawing money from various government departments for sports and so on and that will continue, but I think we are a long way away from getting stands and 3g pitches with floodlights, though that is a goal at the minute.. getting a handball court and a hurling wall are all things that we are looking at.

Generating the money for that is not about passion for the club, you only have to head down to the club on a Saturday morning or go to one of our brilliant under age tournaments that we run on May day and the Pat Sheehan hurling tournamnet to see passion and drive, and while we have had success over the years its not down to being lucky, thats come about by hard work from a lot of people who gave up all their free time, Liam Stewart Vincent Ward Hilary McDaniel then the youth development team that brought through the current senior team that won All Irelands and now our current committee which is run by committed team that is keeping us afloat and chipping away at getting our goals..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2018, 09:44:08 AM
our flood lights are for training only. they are due to be upgraded so they can be used to play matches but thats for another phase down the line.

were currently finishing off the outdoor 4G pitch at the side of the academy which will be flood lit when its done. All down to money of when it all gets finished off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:26:17 AM
Great, seems I've touched a raw edge.

Before the snowflakes start to pile up, please take time to understand the context of my point. It is as follows. AS A COUNTY how do we stack up???

Yes there are hundreds of exceptionally loyal and passionate individuals working in our clubs. Every club could put forward a couple of dozen names of people who do much more than their share so no need to start throwing out their names or we could be here a long time!

To reinforce my original point, Id say the average crowd at most club league games would be 100 people. In Derry or Tyrone this would be X3 or X4. That's just one indicator.

Do we support our county team in reasonable numbers? Definitely not is the answer. Thats another indicator. Even the vast majority of Ex county players couldn't be bothered going to support us.

Facility wise we are a mile off neighbouring counties, if second pitches, covered stands and floodlights are a barometer. And I'd really prefer not to mention that we are graded as 28th in Ireland in football for a reason.

Unfortunately these are NOT good stats. As a proud and passionate Gaa person ( like many others on here) Id much prefer not to feel the need to highlight them. In fact it gives me no pleasure at all in doing so.

But we are where we are for a reason. I think on reflection, as a county we stagnated badly for at least one if not two generations and thankfully I really do believe that we are on a big progress curve, or at worst we are finally reversing out of this depressing era. But we have a lot more work to do to start living up to our potential.







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:33:35 AM
MR2, your point about the "passionate" work going on at under age level, the Pat Sheehan tournament etc is exactly the type off work I'm alluding to. Many clubs are putting renewed focus on juvenile development, and this will pay off big time for clubs and bring through much bigger numbers. Not all will be superstars (hopefully lots will be) but the upside will see increased loyalty to Gaa ideals and a greater possibility of being active club members beyond their playing years.

As someone who has his ear to the ground in the city would you agree that across the board there is much more happening than say ten years ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
PaddyJohn, Dunloy is not a typical club. It probably ticks every box as an ideal club. Almost everyone in the parish is involved in some way in the GAA. Plus it's a dual club, treble including camogie. If we had more clubs like Dunloy Antrim as a county would not be in, or ever would have been in doldrums the way it has been for far too long.

Please don't try to get personal, I put you down for better than that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 07, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
PaddyJohn, Dunloy is not a typical club. It probably ticks every box as an ideal club. Almost everyone in the parish is involved in some way in the GAA. Plus it's a dual club, treble including camogie. If we had more clubs like Dunloy Antrim as a county would not be in, or ever would have been in doldrums the way it has been for far too long.

Please don't try to get personal, I put you down for better than that!

Not getting personal at all, please don't think I was. 

I just don't understand how a clubs facilities equate to how passionate its members are. The finance side of things are normally the stumbling block. I know of a club in Tyrone who have a stand which were sponsored by 3 local engineering firms at no cost to the club. How many clubs in Antrim can boast that kinda financial support? No doubt clubs have improved their pitches and grounds, none more so than your own club which is a credit to the members so the passion is there but is there more passion in PG1 than say St Galls who need new changing rooms?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
PaddyJohn, Dunloy is not a typical club. It probably ticks every box as an ideal club. Almost everyone in the parish is involved in some way in the GAA. Plus it's a dual club, treble including camogie. If we had more clubs like Dunloy Antrim as a county would not be in, or ever would have been in doldrums the way it has been for far too long.

Please don't try to get personal, I put you down for better than that!

Not getting personal at all, please don't think I was. 

I just don't understand how a clubs facilities equate to how passionate its members are. The finance side of things are normally the stumbling block. I know of a club in Tyrone who have a stand which were sponsored by 3 local engineering firms at no cost to the club. How many clubs in Antrim can boast that kinda financial support? No doubt clubs have improved their pitches and grounds, none more so than your own club which is a credit to the members so the passion is there but is there more passion in PG1 than say St Galls who need new changing rooms?

Interesting debate this one as we've been in review of what we need down our way and TBH we need a second pitch fully floodlit but due to the lack of available ground running into our current facilities and a hoor building a house where we might have been able to develop.
That might still happen thanks to the bigotry of our local council who in an attempt to steam roll a Sport NI funded facility meant for all sporting organisations on the peninsula attempted to bypass it's GAA responsibilities and go full hog into a soccer pitch elsewhere. They've been pulled up on that and are now looking at the feasibility of developing a second pitch elsewhere away from the soccer crowd with two sites on offer, one in our parish and another in Portaferry. Either way I'd be happy with access to it even not on our door but close by and shared with ourselves, Portaferry and Ballycran to utilise it better and IMO that is the way forward for clubs not able to have the financial clout to go it alone.
Currently Ballycran are traveling to Belfast and Kilcoo to prepare for the upcoming Ulster final and we've been there too and it's far from ideal.

In the meantime we did build a new gym to a very high standard of gear not only to be used by our players but also the entire community (Monthly DD  8)  ) and that in time will become a revenue stream for us all being well and is bringing new members into the club.
It takes a few enlightened and dedicated members to drive these types of projects through to completion even if financially viable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on November 07, 2018, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 06, 2018, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: outinfront on November 06, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Down football has:
All County FL 1-4
AC reserve football league (decent standard, possibly like Div3)
East Down/South Down reserve league (for weaker seconds teams and thirds teams)

Championship status aligned with league status and winners must move up a grade the following season.

I feel that structure works very well.

Are most senior football games played on a friday night in Down?

Friday night is the norm for games yes, with a few being played midweek at start of season.  Last few league games played on a Saturday or Sunday due to light.
We played Div2 this year and I cant remember too many, if any,  of these league games being under lights.

All county reserve games usually at 2pm on a Sunday.
East and South Down reserve games generally Sunday evenings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
I do get your point PJ that having great facilities dosent necessarily equate to a club having great passion, but if a club can enlist 50 or 60 people for a year to go knocking doors across the province it's a reasonably good litmus test. Having done that I applaud others others who do. It's hard work and this won't happen without a club having enough "passionate" people to make this happen.

I feel the "passion" level in say Tyrone is noticeably higher than in Antrim. Practically every Gaa small parish has the facilities which include the lot....2nd pitch, covered facilities, floodlights, and bring hundreds to run of the mill league matches. I've been at league play offs in Tyrone recently where 5 or 6 thousand people are in attendance.

Now that's a level of commitment we in Antrim sadly arnt matching across the board, even if some clubs do punch above their weight in this regard. The thousands of passionate gaels in Antrim could possibly be measured in tens of thousands elsewhere.

That's not to say we couldn't fill out a big stadium if we get to an Ulster final every 40 years. The demand for tickets would be huge, but the following Sunday a lot of these fairwell supporters would be back out playing golf.

Not wanting to come across as too pessimistic though, I'm simply forwarding an opinion that as a county sometimes there has been a high degree of apathy. However I do genuinly believe we are starting to turn a large corner, and many clubs are finally starting to get their act together.

That, plus a lot of very necessary and largely unheralded ground work has been done in recent years. To the extent I believe we will have some great days out in the future, a prospect I despaired of ever seeing in my anticipated lifetime!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
PaddyJohn, Dunloy is not a typical club. It probably ticks every box as an ideal club. Almost everyone in the parish is involved in some way in the GAA. Plus it's a dual club, treble including camogie. If we had more clubs like Dunloy Antrim as a county would not be in, or ever would have been in doldrums the way it has been for far too long.

Please don't try to get personal, I put you down for better than that!

Not getting personal at all, please don't think I was. 

I just don't understand how a clubs facilities equate to how passionate its members are. The finance side of things are normally the stumbling block. I know of a club in Tyrone who have a stand which were sponsored by 3 local engineering firms at no cost to the club. How many clubs in Antrim can boast that kinda financial support? No doubt clubs have improved their pitches and grounds, none more so than your own club which is a credit to the members so the passion is there but is there more passion in PG1 than say St Galls who need new changing rooms?

Interesting debate this one as we've been in review of what we need down our way and TBH we need a second pitch fully floodlit but due to the lack of available ground running into our current facilities and a hoor building a house where we might have been able to develop.
That might still happen thanks to the bigotry of our local council who in an attempt to steam roll a Sport NI funded facility meant for all sporting organisations on the peninsula attempted to bypass it's GAA responsibilities and go full hog into a soccer pitch elsewhere. They've been pulled up on that and are now looking at the feasibility of developing a second pitch elsewhere away from the soccer crowd with two sites on offer, one in our parish and another in Portaferry. Either way I'd be happy with access to it even not on our door but close by and shared with ourselves, Portaferry and Ballycran to utilise it better and IMO that is the way forward for clubs not able to have the financial clout to go it alone.
Currently Ballycran are traveling to Belfast and Kilcoo to prepare for the upcoming Ulster final and we've been there too and it's far from ideal.

In the meantime we did build a new gym to a very high standard of gear not only to be used by our players but also the entire community (Monthly DD  8)  ) and that in time will become a revenue stream for us all being well and is bringing new members into the club.
It takes a few enlightened and dedicated members to drive these types of projects through to completion even if financially viable.

was in your facilities earlier this year JC and got a look around them. its some job thats been done to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 07, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
PaddyJohn, Dunloy is not a typical club. It probably ticks every box as an ideal club. Almost everyone in the parish is involved in some way in the GAA. Plus it's a dual club, treble including camogie. If we had more clubs like Dunloy Antrim as a county would not be in, or ever would have been in doldrums the way it has been for far too long.

Please don't try to get personal, I put you down for better than that!

Not getting personal at all, please don't think I was. 

I just don't understand how a clubs facilities equate to how passionate its members are. The finance side of things are normally the stumbling block. I know of a club in Tyrone who have a stand which were sponsored by 3 local engineering firms at no cost to the club. How many clubs in Antrim can boast that kinda financial support? No doubt clubs have improved their pitches and grounds, none more so than your own club which is a credit to the members so the passion is there but is there more passion in PG1 than say St Galls who need new changing rooms?

Interesting debate this one as we've been in review of what we need down our way and TBH we need a second pitch fully floodlit but due to the lack of available ground running into our current facilities and a hoor building a house where we might have been able to develop.
That might still happen thanks to the bigotry of our local council who in an attempt to steam roll a Sport NI funded facility meant for all sporting organisations on the peninsula attempted to bypass it's GAA responsibilities and go full hog into a soccer pitch elsewhere. They've been pulled up on that and are now looking at the feasibility of developing a second pitch elsewhere away from the soccer crowd with two sites on offer, one in our parish and another in Portaferry. Either way I'd be happy with access to it even not on our door but close by and shared with ourselves, Portaferry and Ballycran to utilise it better and IMO that is the way forward for clubs not able to have the financial clout to go it alone.
Currently Ballycran are traveling to Belfast and Kilcoo to prepare for the upcoming Ulster final and we've been there too and it's far from ideal.

In the meantime we did build a new gym to a very high standard of gear not only to be used by our players but also the entire community (Monthly DD  8)  ) and that in time will become a revenue stream for us all being well and is bringing new members into the club.
It takes a few enlightened and dedicated members to drive these types of projects through to completion even if financially viable.

was in your facilities earlier this year JC and got a look around them. its some job thats been done to it.

Just need that to translate to the field but it will take time and a huge effort.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 07, 2018, 02:03:52 PM
Any new thinking on display at the fixtures meeting? forum very busy of late so sorry I've missed them....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 07, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 07, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
PaddyJohn, Dunloy is not a typical club. It probably ticks every box as an ideal club. Almost everyone in the parish is involved in some way in the GAA. Plus it's a dual club, treble including camogie. If we had more clubs like Dunloy Antrim as a county would not be in, or ever would have been in doldrums the way it has been for far too long.

Please don't try to get personal, I put you down for better than that!

Not getting personal at all, please don't think I was. 

I just don't understand how a clubs facilities equate to how passionate its members are. The finance side of things are normally the stumbling block. I know of a club in Tyrone who have a stand which were sponsored by 3 local engineering firms at no cost to the club. How many clubs in Antrim can boast that kinda financial support? No doubt clubs have improved their pitches and grounds, none more so than your own club which is a credit to the members so the passion is there but is there more passion in PG1 than say St Galls who need new changing rooms?

Interesting debate this one as we've been in review of what we need down our way and TBH we need a second pitch fully floodlit but due to the lack of available ground running into our current facilities and a hoor building a house where we might have been able to develop.
That might still happen thanks to the bigotry of our local council who in an attempt to steam roll a Sport NI funded facility meant for all sporting organisations on the peninsula attempted to bypass it's GAA responsibilities and go full hog into a soccer pitch elsewhere. They've been pulled up on that and are now looking at the feasibility of developing a second pitch elsewhere away from the soccer crowd with two sites on offer, one in our parish and another in Portaferry. Either way I'd be happy with access to it even not on our door but close by and shared with ourselves, Portaferry and Ballycran to utilise it better and IMO that is the way forward for clubs not able to have the financial clout to go it alone.
Currently Ballycran are traveling to Belfast and Kilcoo to prepare for the upcoming Ulster final and we've been there too and it's far from ideal.

In the meantime we did build a new gym to a very high standard of gear not only to be used by our players but also the entire community (Monthly DD  8)  ) and that in time will become a revenue stream for us all being well and is bringing new members into the club.
It takes a few enlightened and dedicated members to drive these types of projects through to completion even if financially viable.

was in your facilities earlier this year JC and got a look around them. its some job thats been done to it.

Just need that to translate to the field but it will take time and a huge effort.

was down with our senior camogs to play yours that day in the summer the hurlers were playing Nenagh after it. that seemed to be the general thinking from anyone i chatted to in the club that day was that hopefully it would help to improve the talent already there.

to be fair you have a great set up down there anyway, much the same as Ballycran and Portaferry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2018, 05:08:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on November 07, 2018, 08:47:17 AM
Floodlights in Aghagallon too.

Sure that's in Armagh/Down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 08, 2018, 10:53:18 AM
If only we had half the facilities of the Lurgan teams!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
I am a big fan of the county trying a new format for the u21 which gave the teams at least 4 games and it seems to have started well - anybody else hear how it's going?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 11, 2018, 11:16:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
We'd better not get into covered stands then. Not one in the county.

It takes a hell of a lot of work to put proper facilities in place and maybe we have to ask ourselves if we really do have the same passion for GAA as there are in other counties.

There is a covered stand in Antrim, with about 60 green seats, 60 white seats, and 60 orange seats...
Some passion...  8)

Ps 2 bites of the cherry already, when's the third ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/46164172
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 12, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
St.Pauls trying to save themselves from Division 3 football next year. Proposing 3 x team leagues 1A, 1B ,2A and a 10 team - div 2B.  Totally ignoring promotion and relegation. A team that won four games all year - worthy of Div2 A status .....Jesus weep for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 12, 2018, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 12, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
St.Pauls trying to save themselves from Division 3 football next year. Proposing 3 x team leagues 1A, 1B ,2A and a 10 team - div 2B.  Totally ignoring promotion and relegation. A team that won four games all year - worthy of Div2 A status .....Jesus weep for them

How would their proposals work exactly? any links to them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 12, 2018, 07:24:12 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 12, 2018, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 12, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
St.Pauls trying to save themselves from Division 3 football next year. Proposing 3 x team leagues 1A, 1B ,2A and a 10 team - div 2B.  Totally ignoring promotion and relegation. A team that won four games all year - worthy of Div2 A status .....Jesus weep for them

How would their proposals work exactly? any links to them?
[/quote

Using the current league positions-  teams in 1-8   - div 1A

Teams 9 -16  = 1B

Teams 17 -24= 2A

Rest  = 2B

I no consideration given to promotion

I'm sure GNM   St.Brigids will like that proposal !!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 12, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
What am I missing here? St Pauls right now are in bottom 10. You sure it is not a 10 team 2A and an 8 team 2B?  Even at that there would probably be debate as to whether St Pauls and ODs or Ardoyne and Antrim would get the extra 2 places from the bottom 10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 12, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 12, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
What am I missing here? St Pauls right now are in bottom 10. You sure it is not a 10 team 2A and an 8 team 2B?  Even at that there would probably be debate as to whether St Pauls and ODs or Ardoyne and Antrim would get the extra 2 places from the bottom 10.
Restructure of the All County Football Leagues for the 2019 Season

The All County Football League to be restructured on a pilot basis for 1 year to the following;

Div 1A – 8 team league (top 8 placed teams in 2018 season)
Div 1B – 8 team league (9-16 placed teams in 2018 season)
Div 2A – 8 team league (17-24 placed teams in 2018 season)
Div 2B – 10 team league (25-34 placed teams in 2018 season)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 12, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 12, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 12, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
What am I missing here? St Pauls right now are in bottom 10. You sure it is not a 10 team 2A and an 8 team 2B?  Even at that there would probably be debate as to whether St Pauls and ODs or Ardoyne and Antrim would get the extra 2 places from the bottom 10.
Restructure of the All County Football Leagues for the 2019 Season

The All County Football League to be restructured on a pilot basis for 1 year to the following;

Div 1A – 8 team league (top 8 placed teams in 2018 season)
Div 1B – 8 team league (9-16 placed teams in 2018 season)
Div 2A – 8 team league (17-24 placed teams in 2018 season)
Div 2B – 10 team league (25-34 placed teams in 2018 season)

Surely that cant be right? if that is their proposals my reading of it is that O'ds and St Pauls stay 2a and Lisburn and Glenravel would be 2b, that cant be right, and if you changed the 2 teams then the re structure wouldn't save St Pauls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 12, 2018, 08:13:43 PM
You got to hand it to them if true. That is as barefaced as you are likely to get. But it is also highly disrespectful to their fellow clubs. I read an article recently about Lisburn and the years of work they have put in to get where they are now. If St Pauls have taken their eye off the ball during this same period what do they think gives them the right to ride rough shod over huge effort from a club like Naomh Padraig. No shame whatsoever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 10:55:48 PM
St Paul's can f**k off and suck it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 13, 2018, 12:59:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 06, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 05, 2018, 11:56:14 PMwarning? ... C/S is over now. I was still on the site btw
Why bite ?
Bite on what? I made the observation....

Hook, line and...
Why lower yourself begs the question.

Ps nothing wrong with Friday evening games, club singular...

Pss Senior and reserves on Sundays are great

Psss HS, surely common sense prevails, who doesn't have it that changes can only take place after following year ?  If not, why not, has anyone sensible proposed it before ?

Pssss someone sensible tell st. Paul's to take their oil...
Seem to remember advice like this before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2018, 07:38:46 AM
There are a lot of clubs over the years that made proposals to 'improve' the leagues to save their own skin, some have actually been successful with it, so the form and results have worked..

Some posters letting themselves down a bit with their language but these things happen, until a policy is in place to ensure changes are always made the following year then clubs in danger of dropping leagues will do this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 09:23:13 AM
The real problem is that St Pauls proposal is a good one, but done for the wrong reasons. I think if it were implemented this year coming they'd have to be some sort of playoff so the likes of St Pats aren't shafted. But who wants to play a crucial game to define their year before anythings started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on November 13, 2018, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 09:23:13 AM
The real problem is that St Pauls proposal is a good one, but done for the wrong reasons. I think if it were implemented this year coming they'd have to be some sort of playoff so the likes of St Pats aren't shafted. But who wants to play a crucial game to define their year before anythings started.
It could be implemented but taken into account the finishing positions with promotion/relegation taking place before being applied.
Rossa/Glenavy swapped with Gort na Mona/St Brigids
St Paul's/O'Donnell's swapped with Glenravel/Lisburn

St Paul's would still be in the bottom league which they wouldn't like but it is the only fair place to take with the teams in the promotion/relegation places. Tough suppose it has no impact on the current Div 1/Div 2 as they would be in St Paul's new proposed 1B.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 13, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Why are St Paul's so against being in the bottom league?  If they haven't been good enough for division 2, then what's their issue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2018, 10:25:47 AM
ill never understand teams that want the leagues constantly changed every single season just because it doesn't suit them.

theres no doubt that their proposal looks good but their motives leave a lot to be desired. the teams that won promotion should all have that honoured and those relegated this year should stay the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 10:47:19 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on November 13, 2018, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 09:23:13 AM
The real problem is that St Pauls proposal is a good one, but done for the wrong reasons. I think if it were implemented this year coming they'd have to be some sort of playoff so the likes of St Pats aren't shafted. But who wants to play a crucial game to define their year before anythings started.
It could be implemented but taken into account the finishing positions with promotion/relegation taking place before being applied.
Rossa/Glenavy swapped with Gort na Mona/St Brigids
St Paul's/O'Donnell's swapped with Glenravel/Lisburn

St Paul's would still be in the bottom league which they wouldn't like but it is the only fair place to take with the teams in the promotion/relegation places. Tough suppose it has no impact on the current Div 1/Div 2 as they would be in St Paul's new proposed 1B.


Well it wouldn't affect Rossa/Glenavy as the top 3 leagues would look like this.

1A
Creggan
Galls
Cargin   
Johnnies
LD
PG1
Ednas
AG

1B
Ahoghill
T's
Rossa
Glenavy
Gort
Brigids
Randalstown
Aldergrove

2A
Moneyglass
Dunloy
Ballymena
Sarsfields
Davitts
Rasharkin
Pauls
O'D's


The only teams it affects are Lisburn and Glenravel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 13, 2018, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2018, 10:25:47 AM
ill never understand teams that want the leagues constantly changed every single season just because it doesn't suit them.

theres no doubt that their proposal looks good but their motives leave a lot to be desired. the teams that won promotion should all have that honoured and those relegated this year should stay the same.

Also, we are wasting our time debating leagues, instead of coaching structures etc.

I would rather the same effort went into looking at the underage leagues to made sure they are still being effective at developing youth, rather than political games about senior leagues.

No other county changes / debates changing their leagues as Antrim does
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on November 13, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
What is all this 1a/b/2a/b nonsense?  Call it what it is Div 1,2,3,4.
Teams have earned the right to be where they are next year.  I agree with a previous poster, any new proposals should take place the following year, or at least should not affect rightly promoted teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 13, 2018, 11:24:37 AM
Are St Pauls not just trying to pull a fast one here?
GNM and St Brigids battled to get promoted to the top tier and this proposal would put them in the 2nd tier - brass neck St Pauls and should be laughed out the door
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on November 13, 2018, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 10:47:19 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on November 13, 2018, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 09:23:13 AM
The real problem is that St Pauls proposal is a good one, but done for the wrong reasons. I think if it were implemented this year coming they'd have to be some sort of playoff so the likes of St Pats aren't shafted. But who wants to play a crucial game to define their year before anythings started.
It could be implemented but taken into account the finishing positions with promotion/relegation taking place before being applied.
Rossa/Glenavy swapped with Gort na Mona/St Brigids
St Paul's/O'Donnell's swapped with Glenravel/Lisburn

St Paul's would still be in the bottom league which they wouldn't like but it is the only fair place to take with the teams in the promotion/relegation places. Tough suppose it has no impact on the current Div 1/Div 2 as they would be in St Paul's new proposed 1B.


Well it wouldn't affect Rossa/Glenavy as the top 3 leagues would look like this.

1A
Creggan
Galls
Cargin   
Johnnies
LD
PG1
Ednas
AG

1B
Ahoghill
T's
Rossa
Glenavy
Gort
Brigids
Randalstown
Aldergrove

2A
Moneyglass
Dunloy
Ballymena
Sarsfields
Davitts
Rasharkin
Pauls
O'D's


The only teams it affects are Lisburn and Glenravel


I disagree, it effects a lot more .. what about Div 1 Clubs who would effectively relegated? Teresas and Ahoghill? GNM and St Brigids don't get promoted don't get to play the "top" teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2018, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 13, 2018, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2018, 10:25:47 AM
ill never understand teams that want the leagues constantly changed every single season just because it doesn't suit them.

theres no doubt that their proposal looks good but their motives leave a lot to be desired. the teams that won promotion should all have that honoured and those relegated this year should stay the same.

Also, we are wasting our time debating leagues, instead of coaching structures etc.

I would rather the same effort went into looking at the underage leagues to made sure they are still being effective at developing youth, rather than political games about senior leagues.

No other county changes / debates changing their leagues as Antrim does

nail on the head!

thats where the time and effort should be put into rather than fannying about changing senior leagues to suit peoples own interests.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: outinfront on November 13, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
What is all this 1a/b/2a/b nonsense?  Call it what it is Div 1,2,3,4.
Teams have earned the right to be where they are next year.  I agree with a previous poster, any new proposals should take place the following year, or at least should not affect rightly promoted teams.

I don't understand all this stuff about top tier. They're still moving up in effect as they'll be playing with 2 teams better than them and frankly relegated/promoted teams are usually close enough in ability. But by that logic we can't ever change the leagues because then someone will lose out getting to the "top tier". The league structures are broken and need to be addressed. Like I said previously, St Pauls are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons but the new proposed div 1 with those teams is about right.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 13, 2018, 12:11:19 PM
Whats wrong with the 3 league system?  It worked fine this past couple of years has it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 13, 2018, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: outinfront on November 13, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
What is all this 1a/b/2a/b nonsense?  Call it what it is Div 1,2,3,4.
Teams have earned the right to be where they are next year.  I agree with a previous poster, any new proposals should take place the following year, or at least should not affect rightly promoted teams.

I don't understand all this stuff about top tier. They're still moving up in effect as they'll be playing with 2 teams better than them and frankly relegated/promoted teams are usually close enough in ability. But by that logic we can't ever change the leagues because then someone will lose out getting to the "top tier". The league structures are broken and need to be addressed. Like I said previously, St Pauls are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons but the new proposed div 1 with those teams is about right.

Can someone please explain how the leagues are broken?

Leagues are there to determine standings, from 1st to last in the county. And the Antrim leagues do that.

If a club wants to progress, it needs to focus on youth development and build from the ground up.

If a team is too good for one league, but not good enough for the league above, then they need to focus on raising their standards. The league structure works. If we look at Div 1 over the past 20 odd years, the following teams have all moved up the ranges to the top table (and some have gone down rebuilt and come back up)
1A
Creggan
PG1
Ednas
AG
Ahoghill
T's
Brigids
Aldergrove
Ballymena

The same is prob true between Div 2/3. Stop changing the leagues, lets get serious about youth development
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 13, 2018, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: outinfront on November 13, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
What is all this 1a/b/2a/b nonsense?  Call it what it is Div 1,2,3,4.
Teams have earned the right to be where they are next year.  I agree with a previous poster, any new proposals should take place the following year, or at least should not affect rightly promoted teams.

I don't understand all this stuff about top tier. They're still moving up in effect as they'll be playing with 2 teams better than them and frankly relegated/promoted teams are usually close enough in ability. But by that logic we can't ever change the leagues because then someone will lose out getting to the "top tier". The league structures are broken and need to be addressed. Like I said previously, St Pauls are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons but the new proposed div 1 with those teams is about right.

Actually the top 2 leagues are fine, the 1 league where there is a massive gulf in class is the bottom division which their proposal doesn't actually address, it's literally just smacks of 'how do we save ourselves'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 13, 2018, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 10:47:19 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on November 13, 2018, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 13, 2018, 09:23:13 AM
The real problem is that St Pauls proposal is a good one, but done for the wrong reasons. I think if it were implemented this year coming they'd have to be some sort of playoff so the likes of St Pats aren't shafted. But who wants to play a crucial game to define their year before anythings started.
It could be implemented but taken into account the finishing positions with promotion/relegation taking place before being applied.
Rossa/Glenavy swapped with Gort na Mona/St Brigids
St Paul's/O'Donnell's swapped with Glenravel/Lisburn

St Paul's would still be in the bottom league which they wouldn't like but it is the only fair place to take with the teams in the promotion/relegation places. Tough suppose it has no impact on the current Div 1/Div 2 as they would be in St Paul's new proposed 1B.


Well it wouldn't affect Rossa/Glenavy as the top 3 leagues would look like this.

1A
Creggan
Galls
Cargin   
Johnnies
LD
PG1
Ednas
AG

1B
Ahoghill
T's
Rossa
Glenavy
Gort
Brigids
Randalstown
Aldergrove

2A
Moneyglass
Dunloy
Ballymena
Sarsfields
Davitts
Rasharkin
Pauls
O'D's


The only teams it affects are Lisburn and Glenravel

What about the teams that finished 9th amd 10th in Div 1 had they known there was top flight to play for. Or teams that finished 5th and 6th in Div 2 that would now be competing to get into div 2 next season as opposed to fighting to get into Div 1? Div 2 a really competitive league that is hard to call at the beginning of the season. Lot more teams impacted than initially appears.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2018, 03:33:48 PM
I'm in favour of a league system that means every game is really competitive. Three divisions of 8 (call them what they are div 1 2 and 3) would see 14 game league's (2 less than at present) and with 2 up and 2 down it would be ultra competitive.

I'd that's what ut takes for Antrim club football to get to a higher level then that could only be good in the long run. The top two dominance of St Galls and Cargin for so long meant other clubs didn't feel their efforts would be rewarded, but now that things are levelling out a bit, div 1 would be keenly contested as would divs two and 3. Every game would  like a mini championship match in effort.

Having said that, I would wait a year until it is implemented and give clubs fair warning of the intent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2018, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2018, 03:33:48 PM
I'm in favour of a league system that means every game is really competitive. Three divisions of 8 (call them what they are div 1 2 and 3) would see 14 game league's (2 less than at present) and with 2 up and 2 down it would be ultra competitive.

I'd that's what ut takes for Antrim club football to get to a higher level then that could only be good in the long run. The top two dominance of St Galls and Cargin for so long meant other clubs didn't feel their efforts would be rewarded, but now that things are levelling out a bit, div 1 would be keenly contested as would divs two and 3. Every game would  like a mini championship match in effort.

Having said that, I would wait a year until it is implemented and give clubs fair warning of the intent.

We won 13 out of 14  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 13, 2018, 04:01:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2018, 03:33:48 PM
I'm in favour of a league system that means every game is really competitive. Three divisions of 8 (call them what they are div 1 2 and 3) would see 14 game league's (2 less than at present) and with 2 up and 2 down it would be ultra competitive.

I'd that's what ut takes for Antrim club football to get to a higher level then that could only be good in the long run. The top two dominance of St Galls and Cargin for so long meant other clubs didn't feel their efforts would be rewarded, but now that things are levelling out a bit, div 1 would be keenly contested as would divs two and 3. Every game would  like a mini championship match in effort.

Having said that, I would wait a year until it is implemented and give clubs fair warning of the intent.

Thats it in a nutshell. I dont mind change for the better, in fact I am all for it. But this slippy nonsense of changing at this stage for self preservation is bullshit. Even to accept the proposal but on the basis of where teams are due to begin next year i.e. St Pauls in bottom tier still does a disservice to teams that a place higher in their league would mean playing in a higher division next season. Bring it in for 2020 for sure but even at that would have to be on the basis of the 2 teams finishing bottom of Div 2 going into the bottom tier in place of the top 2 in division 3. Otherwise division 3 next year may as well not be played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2018, 04:36:05 PM
Trivia Question. Which player(s) would have the greatest set of medals in the history of Antrim club football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
Guess...

Terry O'Neill (minor/u21/senior football)

though he doesn't play hurling

so maybe either...

CJ McGourty of Kieran. (Kieran a bit older so less underage but maybe more senior?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2018, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 13, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
Guess...

Terry O'Neill (minor/u21/senior football)

though he doesn't play hurling

so maybe either...

CJ McGourty of Kieran. (Kieran a bit older so less underage but maybe more senior?)

Few Antrim medals also for Kieran too I'd imagine, three intermediate hurling two Ulster's, and whatever football he has
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2018, 08:59:35 PM
Plenty of medals there too obviously but don't think that is the right answer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2018, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2018, 04:36:05 PM
Trivia Question. Which player(s) would have the greatest set of medals in the history of Antrim club football?
Andy McCallin?

Good shout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
Kevin armstrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2018, 10:01:56 PM
Portglenone GAC mourn the passing of club referee, and highly esteemed committee member Paul Mc Keever. May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2018, 10:15:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2018, 10:01:56 PM
Portglenone GAC mourn the passing of club referee, and highly esteemed committee member Paul Mc Keever. May he rest in peace.

Absolutely shocking and gutting BS. I bought a few cars off him and got to know him very well.

Sympathies to all the Casement club and to the McKeever family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 13, 2018, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2018, 10:01:56 PM
Portglenone GAC mourn the passing of club referee, and highly esteemed committee member Paul Mc Keever. May he rest in peace.

Sympathies to the McKeever family and the casements club
coming so soon too after the death of Kevin Carey
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2018, 10:33:09 PM
Never great when a distinguished club Gael passes away! Sympathies to the McKeever family and club..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 14, 2018, 06:02:17 AM
Terribly sad news about Paul McKeever. Absolutely smashin fella, courteous, accommodating, a massive Gael and most of all a family man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2018, 07:27:35 AM
Gees. I played against him since under 12. Great wee underage player. Very sad to hear that :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 14, 2018, 10:11:19 AM
Paul McKeever was a gentleman on and off the pitch. A tragic loss to his family and everyone who knew him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2018, 04:56:01 PM
Paul's funeral is at 11am on Saturday morning in Portglenone. The turnout for his wake has been nothing short of phenomenal, and a testimony to the esteem that Paul was held in family, community, business and sporting circles.

A huge percentage have been from the GAA, with hundreds of high profile players, managers, referees and officials lining up for hours to pay their final respect. A special mention to Tyrone Gaels who turned up in huge numbers, many All Stars amongst them, and also the entire Coalisland team, complete in club gear who queued for 2 hours just to gain entrance to the Paul's house where he is reposing. Coalisland were managed by Paul's brother John for several seasons and it was obvious a special relationship existed between them.

Pauls passing will cast a huge shadow in the parish, but he leaves behind a rich legacy, amongst that, an under 8 team that he was hugely influential in developing that took part in many top blitz competitions throughout Ulster, generally performing with distinction. The club will remember this year group as Paul's team.

At sad times like this you really do see the very very best of the GAA at work....sometimes we are far too hard on ourselves!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on November 16, 2018, 06:04:41 PM
Well said!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2018, 07:27:02 PM
So sad! I did the line for Paul a few times over the years! Never stopped smiling throughout the games! A gent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
I went over last night myself. Absolutely unbelievable.

RIP Paul, one of lifes good guys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
I went over last night myself. Absolutely unbelievable.

RIP Paul, one of lifes good guys.

What a fitting tribute to a fine young man in Portglenone this morning...

Would break you heart. Cancer can f**k off!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2018, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
I went over last night myself. Absolutely unbelievable.

RIP Paul, one of lifes good guys.

What a fitting tribute to a fine young man in Portglenone this morning...

Would break you heart. Cancer can f**k off!

Would of brought a tear to a stone.

A fine man from a fine family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2018, 02:06:27 PM
Nice sentiments there, and a nice show of respect here too over the last few days hasn't  gone unnoticed. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2018, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2018, 02:06:27 PM
Nice sentiments there, and a nice show of respect here too over the last few days hasn't  gone unnoticed. Thanks for that.

Can't underestimate the GAA family
We fight all year whether it's on the pitch or verbally on here but when it comes to it we're all one as the last few days in portglenone have proved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Well done to St Endas, Ulster final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Well done to St Endas, Ulster final

And well done to Fitzy and Pat...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Well done to St Endas, Ulster final

And well done to Fitzy and Pat...... ;)

A club that used their money wisely and managed to represent Antrim well  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clarshack on November 17, 2018, 10:52:40 PM
Heard St. Enda's are a young team with a lot of u21's. Good Manager as well helps.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 17, 2018, 10:52:40 PM
Heard St. Enda's are a young team with a lot of u21's. Good Manager as well helps.

A lot more ambition than some helps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
Can you translate that last comment please  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 11:15:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
Can you translate that last comment please  ;)

After 7 championships it's simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2018, 11:18:59 PM
Surerb. Fantastic St  Endas. Big club going the right way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2018, 11:25:16 PM
Great to see an antrim team in an ulster football final.

Mr i have no idea whether you are making compliments or digs ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 17, 2018, 11:39:31 PM
Yes it is great to see an Antrim team in the final, but lads St Endas are a senior team playing at intermediate football. I'm delighted for them, but call it for what it is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 11:45:52 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 17, 2018, 11:39:31 PM
Yes it is great to see an Antrim team in the final, but lads St Endas are a senior team playing at intermediate football. I'm delighted for them, but call it for what it is

Kerry (one example) get away with this every year. Plenty other counties at it also. You call it as it is for that as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2018, 08:32:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Well done to St Endas, Ulster final

And well done to Fitzy and Pat...... ;)

A club that used their money wisely and managed to represent Antrim well  :D

Seems you do have problems with some individuals and clubs.....does your unashamed prejudice reflect in 'decisions made', I wonder.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 18, 2018, 08:40:33 AM
A great achievement for our young lads and so much potential yet to be realised. Should be a great final. Naomh Éanna abú!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2018, 08:32:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Well done to St Endas, Ulster final

And well done to Fitzy and Pat...... ;)

A club that used their money wisely and managed to represent Antrim well  :D

Seems you do have problems with some individuals and clubs.....does your unashamed prejudice reflect in 'decisions made', I wonder.....

Does it come across in your write ups for the games? Your prejudice is rooted from unashamed jealousy, you're rude obnoxious and frankly very predictable.

If you ever spoke to me like you did after the Cargin Lamhs game in the street you get a proper response.

As for me refereeing I don't see clubs I ref the game, this is were you'd fail miserably as you're hatred is deep rooted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2018, 09:48:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2018, 08:32:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Well done to St Endas, Ulster final

And well done to Fitzy and Pat...... ;)

A club that used their money wisely and managed to represent Antrim well  :D

Seems you do have problems with some individuals and clubs.....does your unashamed prejudice reflect in 'decisions made', I wonder.....

Does it come across in your write ups for the games? Your prejudice is rooted from unashamed jealousy, you're rude obnoxious and frankly very predictable.

If you ever spoke to me like you did after the Cargin Lamhs game in the street you get a proper response.

As for me refereeing I don't see clubs I ref the game, this is were you'd fail miserably as you're hatred is deep rooted

Thanks a lot for your comments......such will be taken on board and carefully considered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 10:58:45 AM
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Well done to St Endas, Ulster final

And well done to Fitzy and Pat...... ;)

A club that used their money wisely and managed to represent Antrim well  :D

Seems you do have problems with some individuals and clubs.....does your unashamed prejudice reflect in 'decisions made', I wonder.....

Does it come across in your write ups for the games? Your prejudice is rooted from unashamed jealousy, you're rude obnoxious and frankly very predictable.

If you ever spoke to me like you did after the Cargin Lamhs game in the street you get a proper response.

As for me refereeing I don't see clubs I ref the game, this is were you'd fail miserably as you're hatred is deep rooted

Thanks a lot for your comments......such will be taken on board and carefully considered.

Harder to hide behind the keyboard when people know who you are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 18, 2018, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: Last Man on November 18, 2018, 08:40:33 AM
A great achievement for our young lads and so much potential yet to be realised. Should be a great final. Naomh Éanna abú!

Superb result and fair play!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 06:15:58 PM
Aye little over a year ago St Endas were playing Div 2 and a couple of yrs before that they were in Div 3. Hardly an established Senior team. Well done to them and best of luck in the final.

A word on the U21 championship. While I maintain my gripe about the time of the year I am impressed by what the seeding groups are bringing to it. This is an age where some guys can see little else football in a year so a guarantee of 4 games is positive. Also it has done away with the scenrio where 2 of the best teams draw each other in the qualifying round with the winners going on to contest the A comp and the losers cantering through the B competition.

Finally when is the county meeting where St Pauls are hoping for enough clubs to support the motion that a full years football and potentially years of development work in some clubs as well as all associated sporting integrity is less important than St Pauls avoiding competing in the bottom tier next season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:21:09 PM
County convention is on 5th December.

The hot bed of club development didn't field against St. Brigid s in U21 on Sat.

Maybe the thought St.Brigids might beat them or maybe ridicule them for their pathetic motion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 07:27:30 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:21:09 PM
County convention is on 5th December.

The hot bed of club development didn't field against St. Brigid s in U21 on Sat.

Maybe the thought St.Brigids might beat them or maybe ridicule them for their pathetic motion.

Look lads it's a motion, nothing else and believe it or not plenty clubs put motions in place every year to save their bacon! I've been banging on about this stuff for years and we are still doing the same thing, if the rule is still available to allow changes before the season starts then clubs will continue to do it. This isn't a new thing and many county committees in the past have allowed this..

Getting personal  on this is not the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
Antrim clubs turned this option down before the season started. They voted to retain a three division league for 2018. You can't change the rules to suit yourself !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 07:35:41 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
Antrim clubs turned this option down before the season started. They voted to retain a three division league for 2018. You can't change the rules to suit yourself !

So if that's the case why is it still an option? Clubs won't forward a proposal if it can't be put in place the next season.

Again I wouldn't knock them. A lot of clubs forward motions and in most cases it's selfish to a point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:50:59 PM
If approved   .....if should be ratified for 2020  not next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Yeah look it is current hence worth commenting on in my opinion. Yes other clubs have actually succeeded in saving their bacon with this type of motion in the past. Sarsfields immediately spring to mind if I am correct. Certainly there was a recent case but in that case, again if memory serves me correct, leagues were expanded and a few clubs benefited rather than Sarsfields benefiting at the expense of others.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 08:00:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:50:59 PM
If approved   .....if should be ratified for 2020  not next year

It cannot work in its current guise for 2020 either. That would make 2019's Div3 pointless. I dont think they like of St Pauls, ODees and Ardoyne who will be gunning for promotion would nor should accept their league efforts in 2019 being worthless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Yeah look it is current hence worth commenting on in my opinion. Yes other clubs have actually succeeded in saving their bacon with this type of motion in the past. Sarsfields immediately spring to mind if I am correct. Certainly there was a recent case but in that case, again if memory serves me correct, leagues were expanded and a few clubs benefited rather than Sarsfields benefiting at the expense of others.

I could and have in the past named plenty teams who wouldn't take their medicine. That's not the point.. the county need to put measures in place (as Hardststion as mentioned) to make it fair and just.. proposals can be positive btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2018, 08:23:41 PM
Excellent point   hectic
Makes the motion  even less worthy of even being considered at convention.  Could be thrown out  as being " out of order " in line with county bye laws etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 18, 2018, 09:50:22 PM
Two clubs to be embarrassed, is motions going forward on 5th Dec to stop these things from being possible;
1. St. Paul's looking to change leagues without a years notice because of the way they performed - the league does not lie...
2. St Enda's - imagine a Div 1 team playing intermediate, and getting congratulated on it. There are counties that have 3 divisions, called senior, intermediate and junior. Why worry what other counties do anyways, it's embarrassing for those doing it too.

Ps Cb and mr2, if I start a new thread, the naughty room, would you guys go to it when having a tiff please, it's a bit much to have to read your childish dribble to get onto more interesting posts

Pss what about a new motion on here, only requote one comment, not the whole stream of them - please

Psss u21 groups help, but maybe could have some additional prior seeding, do comgalls, glenavy, et al., really want to play their next games ?

RIP Paul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 09:57:49 PM
Should Div 2 teams be playing senior? Or Div 3 be playing Intermediate?

I'll go back to what is available at the minute, teams can nominate their championship, a motion needs to be made to change that, until then, thems the rules!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2018, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Yeah look it is current hence worth commenting on in my opinion. Yes other clubs have actually succeeded in saving their bacon with this type of motion in the past. Sarsfields immediately spring to mind if I am correct. Certainly there was a recent case but in that case, again if memory serves me correct, leagues were expanded and a few clubs benefited rather than Sarsfields benefiting at the expense of others.

I could and have in the past named plenty teams who wouldn't take their medicine. That's not the point.. the county need to put measures in place (as Hardststion as mentioned) to make it fair and just.. proposals can be positive btw

DUNLOY
AGHGALLON
SARSFIELDS
All took the medicine over the past 4 years. It hasn't done them much harm to fair to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 10:08:32 PM
Lot of times clubs in denial as to their true position. Especially ones on the way down. Have to bottom out sometimes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 10:09:08 PM
Us being relegated pushed us on to win an All Ireland and a few senior titles..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 10:14:51 PM
Yeah sometimes need that knock to evaluate and change/refocus. Still need the talent to get to the top end of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Yeah look it is current hence worth commenting on in my opinion. Yes other clubs have actually succeeded in saving their bacon with this type of motion in the past. Sarsfields immediately spring to mind if I am correct. Certainly there was a recent case but in that case, again if memory serves me correct, leagues were expanded and a few clubs benefited rather than Sarsfields benefiting at the expense of others.

I could and have in the past named plenty teams who wouldn't take their medicine. That's not the point.. the county need to put measures in place (as Hardststion as mentioned) to make it fair and just.. proposals can be positive btw

DUNLOY
AGHGALLON
SARSFIELDS
All took the medicine over the past 4 years. It hasn't done them much harm to fair to them

ill have to agree with this. we went to D3 and we fully deserved to be there for the duration until we got our act together and started to move up a bit to a higher league. No complaints or excuses

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 19, 2018, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 19, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 18, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Yeah look it is current hence worth commenting on in my opinion. Yes other clubs have actually succeeded in saving their bacon with this type of motion in the past. Sarsfields immediately spring to mind if I am correct. Certainly there was a recent case but in that case, again if memory serves me correct, leagues were expanded and a few clubs benefited rather than Sarsfields benefiting at the expense of others.

I could and have in the past named plenty teams who wouldn't take their medicine. That's not the point.. the county need to put measures in place (as Hardststion as mentioned) to make it fair and just.. proposals can be positive btw

DUNLOY
AGHGALLON
SARSFIELDS
All took the medicine over the past 4 years. It hasn't done them much harm to fair to them

ill have to agree with this. we went to D3 and we fully deserved to be there for the duration until we got our act together and started to move up a bit to a higher league. No complaints or excuses
[/quote

as i said on here before, st endas 2 years in Div 3 doesn't seem to have done them too badly, go down regroup with less pressure get a style of football that suits your players and build from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 19, 2018, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
Antrim clubs turned this option down before the season started. They voted to retain a three division league for 2018. You can't change the rules to suit yourself !
Is the Gaelfast chief the architect of this self serving motion? I hope not !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 19, 2018, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 09:57:49 PM
Should Div 2 teams be playing senior? Or Div 3 be playing Intermediate?

I'll go back to what is available at the minute, teams can nominate their championship, a motion needs to be made to change that, until then, thems the rules!!

I'm of the opinion that you have to earn senior championship credentials, and achieving division 1 league status is the way to go about it - the leagues don't lie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 19, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 19, 2018, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
Antrim clubs turned this option down before the season started. They voted to retain a three division league for 2018. You can't change the rules to suit yourself !
Is the Gaelfast chief the architect of this self serving motion? I hope not !

Surely not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 19, 2018, 09:52:47 PM
Yeah look I have a lot less issue with clubs throwing in a motion to suit themselves with no impact on others. The arrogance of St Pauls totally reeks.

Lisburn have been working hard for 20 yrs or more including direct investment in their school football as well as around the club. This year has saw them promoted to Div 2 off the back of year on year on year improvement. St Paul are basically saying you can take all that effort and ffffff off out of our way as we are too good to play in the bottom tier. The rest is all decoration. St Teresas, Ahoghill and Genravel would be equally shafted while GNM and St Brides will have ambitions of getting a foothold in Div 1.

Yes the rules around motions are there to be abused but on this proposal St Pauls are not only abusing the loophole in the rules but moreso showing total disrespect for fellow clubs. It says a lot about them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2018, 09:58:54 PM
Still getting worked up over something that more than likely won't get passed. Motions have been happening for years and most clubs have done it, I'm sure your club also Hectic will have put in a motion that would have affected another club.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 19, 2018, 10:08:04 PM
Not sure if they have MR but it is possible as I am not party to that information. Maybe the social media age brings these things into sharper focus. I dont believe this motion will get the support but then again St Pauls clearly feel they have a chance and would know more about the workings than me.  I simply believe in fair play and sporting merit. I imagine given the job you do you hold those values pretty high yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 19, 2018, 10:08:04 PM
Not sure if they have MR but it is possible as I am not party to that information. Maybe the social media age brings these things into sharper focus. I dont believe this motion will get the support but then again St Pauls clearly feel they have a chance and would know more about the workings than me.  I simply believe in fair play and sporting merit. I imagine given the job you do you hold those values pretty high yourself.


I've managed juvenile and senior teams and played for many years, I've been affected as a player and lost our position to senior status on 3 occasions once a manager and twice as a player and it's shit! I've been also on the end of gaining promotion because of other clubs motions.

It's human nature to protect your status but let's see how it pans out before internet murders  ;)

It's actually easier as a ref as it makes no difference!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 20, 2018, 07:03:14 AM
Fair point re playing and managing. The sacrifice involved in either (and indeed refereeing) should be respected. Of course there is a lot of enjoyment to be had as well but the field of play is where it should happen. We battle on the pitch but we shake hands as we leave it.

But the solution is the one you have brought up before i.e. close the loophole.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 20, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
I'm hearing dunloy played an illegible player against Aghagallon whats happening there?  are they just losing the points and the player gets suspended or will there be further action ? Wouldn't expect that from a club like dunloy more likely for something like that to happen around our parts LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 20, 2018, 04:00:55 PM
Lots of 0-0 to 0-0 in U21 and from a lot of clubs which is disappointing to see - would Sunday have been a better day for this competition?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2018, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 20, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
I'm hearing dunloy played an illegible player against Aghagallon whats happening there?  are they just losing the points and the player gets suspended or will there be further action ? Wouldn't expect that from a club like dunloy more likely for something like that to happen around our parts LOL

theres a lot more to it that we just played an illegal player. i wont go into names but suffice to say they lied about their age to allow themselves to be able to play for the U21's. he had never ever played for us and was a member of another club, not in this county, before transferring to ourselves prior to the U21 championship. transfer form had him the correct age, signed official transfer papers, player themselves confirmed it was correct but unfortunately he lied about it

the club have already notified the county the moment the deceit was found out. hes no longer involved with our club nor probably will ever be after this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2018, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2018, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 20, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
I'm hearing dunloy played an illegible player against Aghagallon whats happening there?  are they just losing the points and the player gets suspended or will there be further action ? Wouldn't expect that from a club like dunloy more likely for something like that to happen around our parts LOL

theres a lot more to it that we just played an illegal player. i wont go into names but suffice to say they lied about their age to allow themselves to be able to play for the U21's. he had never ever played for us and was a member of another club, not in this county, before transferring to ourselves prior to the U21 championship. transfer form had him the correct age, signed official transfer papers, player themselves confirmed it was correct but unfortunately he lied about it

the club have already notified the county the moment the deceit was found out. hes no longer involved with our club nor probably will ever be after this.

Well done.. no fault with use there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 20, 2018, 09:32:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2018, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 20, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
I'm hearing dunloy played an illegible player against Aghagallon whats happening there?  are they just losing the points and the player gets suspended or will there be further action ? Wouldn't expect that from a club like dunloy more likely for something like that to happen around our parts LOL

theres a lot more to it that we just played an illegal player. i wont go into names but suffice to say they lied about their age to allow themselves to be able to play for the U21's. he had never ever played for us and was a member of another club, not in this county, before transferring to ourselves prior to the U21 championship. transfer form had him the correct age, signed official transfer papers, player themselves confirmed it was correct but unfortunately he lied about it

the club have already notified the county the moment the deceit was found out. hes no longer involved with our club nor probably will ever be after this.

That story is absolutely nuts!

Wtf was he at?! Trying to impress a woman or what? Crazy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 20, 2018, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2018, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 20, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
I'm hearing dunloy played an illegible player against Aghagallon whats happening there?  are they just losing the points and the player gets suspended or will there be further action ? Wouldn't expect that from a club like dunloy more likely for something like that to happen around our parts LOL

theres a lot more to it that we just played an illegal player. i wont go into names but suffice to say they lied about their age to allow themselves to be able to play for the U21's. he had never ever played for us and was a member of another club, not in this county, before transferring to ourselves prior to the U21 championship. transfer form had him the correct age, signed official transfer papers, player themselves confirmed it was correct but unfortunately he lied about it

the club have already notified the county the moment the deceit was found out. hes no longer involved with our club nor probably will ever be after this.

Fair play. 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2018, 08:46:58 AM
it pure madness and ive never heard of anyone doing this before.

the fact that we got an official transfer form from the other club, signed by the relevant people to say all was in order that he was able to play U21 and senior football. we thought nothing off it until someone got suspicious about his age as they weren't sure if he was or wasn't 21 after the first game.

it wasnt till afterwards that we found out that he lied about his DOB and was actually in fact 22 and not 21 that we then notified the county ourselves.

Through absolutely no fault of our club we have been left in a position where we could be fined, deducted points etc. and the young fellas punished over the lies of someone. You assume that an official transfer form is an official document and you take it as gospel but it opens up the question now of how does a club check these things themselves?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2018, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 21, 2018, 08:46:58 AM
it pure madness and ive never heard of anyone doing this before.

the fact that we got an official transfer form from the other club, signed by the relevant people to say all was in order that he was able to play U21 and senior football. we thought nothing off it until someone got suspicious about his age as they weren't sure if he was or wasn't 21 after the first game.

it wasnt till afterwards that we found out that he lied about his DOB and was actually in fact 22 and not 21 that we then notified the county ourselves.

Through absolutely no fault of our club we have been left in a position where we could be fined, deducted points etc. and the young fellas punished over the lies of someone. You assume that an official transfer form is an official document and you take it as gospel but it opens up the question now of how does a club check these things themselves?

It will from here on in ensure you ask the lad for a passport or other ID to keep yourself right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 21, 2018, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 21, 2018, 08:46:58 AM
it pure madness and ive never heard of anyone doing this before.

the fact that we got an official transfer form from the other club, signed by the relevant people to say all was in order that he was able to play U21 and senior football. we thought nothing off it until someone got suspicious about his age as they weren't sure if he was or wasn't 21 after the first game.

it wasnt till afterwards that we found out that he lied about his DOB and was actually in fact 22 and not 21 that we then notified the county ourselves.

Through absolutely no fault of our club we have been left in a position where we could be fined, deducted points etc. and the young fellas punished over the lies of someone. You assume that an official transfer form is an official document and you take it as gospel but it opens up the question now of how does a club check these things themselves?

Fair play for notifying the County yourselves.

Birth certs or id with club transfers under the age of 21 may be the way to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2018, 09:21:54 AM
problem is he did have id, problem with that is that it was fake!

I mean clubs cant check for things like this at all. Unless we ask for birth certs etc up front is the only way.

but you would assume that once a player is transferred that the information is always correct
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2018, 09:24:34 AM
A rare situation indeed. Looks like Dunloy did all they could to be fair. Should be interesting to see how this one plays out. Owen Elliott wasn't expecting this to land in his lap. I wonder has there ever been a precedent....especially to the extent that the original club signed the transfer with details intact. Messy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2018, 09:36:15 AM
Lets hope the county use some common sense here. Dunloy did all in good faith and as soon as they knew something was wrong they alerted the county, any punishment would to much in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
aside from that madness going on last night U21 game was a really entertaining affair. Moneyglass set up very defensively even with the wind at their backs and did so very well.

a degree of fortune with a few of their goals but all in a draw was a fair result. the Number 12 for Moneyglass, Ronan Graham is he? was very good, excellent on the ball and very strong going forward. Coniall prenter at full forward was also very good.

that being said we were 9 down at one point and managed to score 1-06 to get a draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 21, 2018, 10:04:33 AM
that is madness. Surly you need some form of official documentation to transfer with DOB and address on it ? No Fault of Dunloys what so ever and was surprised when I heard the news but that clears it up. Going by the SG report the number 12 was Dermot Mcerlain hes been a county minor and u21 the past few seasons very good player great in the air
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 21, 2018, 10:24:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 21, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
aside from that madness going on last night U21 game was a really entertaining affair. Moneyglass set up very defensively even with the wind at their backs and did so very well.

a degree of fortune with a few of their goals but all in a draw was a fair result. the Number 12 for Moneyglass, Ronan Graham is he? was very good, excellent on the ball and very strong going forward. Coniall prenter at full forward was also very good.

that being said we were 9 down at one point and managed to score 1-06 to get a draw.
[DR does the draw potentially make things very messy.. Assume top 2 go into A competition, bottom 2 into B. If you were deducted the 2 points for the Aghagallon game that  would leave yourselves and Mglass on 3 each . How would that play out ...could get messy On a side note are all memberships not held on a central database with all dates of birth entered when a juvenille is first registered. Would the transfer form not be picking up the details  the membership database  that were registered in the first instance.....Was the guy in question registered correcly in the first instance by his original club ?/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 21, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
belfastsaff

'Going by the SG report the number 12 was Dermot Mcerlain hes been a county minor and u21 the past few seasons very good player great in the air'

Yes it was Dermot he's a super player and was very impressive last night.

At 9 points down with all that's been happening off the pitch we could have threw the head up but we didn't. Fantastic group of players and hopefully the result last night will be enough to take us into the A
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Megaman on November 21, 2018, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 21, 2018, 09:21:54 AM
problem is he did have id, problem with that is that it was fake!

I mean clubs cant check for things like this at all. Unless we ask for birth certs etc up front is the only way.

but you would assume that once a player is transferred that the information is always correct

Just out of interest, with the population and numbers Dunloy have,  why do yous need to take a player from another club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 21, 2018, 10:59:05 AM
Megaman

'Just out of interest, with the population and numbers Dunloy have,  why do yous need to take a player from another club?'

The player had recently moved to live in Dunloy from a club within a different county. It would be normal practice for a transfer to take place when this happens and I myself know of quite a few. The circumstances of the actual transfer is the problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Megaman on November 21, 2018, 11:05:22 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 21, 2018, 10:59:05 AM
Megaman

'Just out of interest, with the population and numbers Dunloy have,  why do yous need to take a player from another club?'

The player had recently moved to live in Dunloy from a club within a different county. It would be normal practice for a transfer to take place when this happens and I myself know of quite a few. The circumstances of the actual transfer is the problem

Fair enough, wasnt saying they did anything wrong btw. Obviously the player is to blame which could affect the other players which is a shame.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 21, 2018, 11:22:42 AM
Inter county  transfers are all processed on line now.
I wouldn't know what documents a player is asked for  but  it would be open to abuse
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 21, 2018, 11:23:50 AM
Megaman

'Fair enough, wasnt saying they did anything wrong btw. Obviously the player is to blame which could affect the other players which is a shame'

Indeed it is a shame and the heart they showed last night showed just what it means to them and hopefully it continues but we will have to wait and see what happens



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 21, 2018, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2018, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 21, 2018, 08:46:58 AM
it pure madness and ive never heard of anyone doing this before.

the fact that we got an official transfer form from the other club, signed by the relevant people to say all was in order that he was able to play U21 and senior football. we thought nothing off it until someone got suspicious about his age as they weren't sure if he was or wasn't 21 after the first game.

it wasnt till afterwards that we found out that he lied about his DOB and was actually in fact 22 and not 21 that we then notified the county ourselves.

Through absolutely no fault of our club we have been left in a position where we could be fined, deducted points etc. and the young fellas punished over the lies of someone. You assume that an official transfer form is an official document and you take it as gospel but it opens up the question now of how does a club check these things themselves?

It will from here on in ensure you ask the lad for a passport or other ID to keep yourself right

Does the transfer form not require the person in question to put on his current GAA ID and his old club secretary should be able to provide it if he doesn't know it.

Once the GAA had ratified the transfer then those details should be passed to Dunloy, but evidently a lot of things didn't happen.

How did he think he would get away with it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 21, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
Was a different name put on the teamsheet, nevermind bluffing his age?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 21, 2018, 01:11:29 PM
But why did he want to play at an age lower than himself??!

Like what had he to gain?
If I won an u-16/u-21 now wtf would be the point? I'd know it was tainted as I'm ancient!

He had to be trying to impress some local girl or something (or doing it to keep up a lie he'd told about a false age or something).

It's a rare one as Bannside said.

Agree Dunloy should not be punished
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
no his official name and his new player number that he got when he was registered with us. he was on the team sheet and played the first game. it was only after the game that we found out that he had lied about his DOB.

it seems from what ive heard is that he lied to his own club as well where he came from about it as well. i seen the transfer form myself and it was fully legit and signed by the required parties

Its def a first that ive had to be involved with in my time. everyone who is registered with us from anew is children and its the parents who fill in all the forms and the details that are used for the rest of their involvement with the club. you always take these things at face value and its very hard to get that wrong at a young age but its the adult transfers that can cause the problems now it seems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 21, 2018, 01:40:18 PM
Intercounty transfers are done online these days.

The new club instigates it, the player then completes his details, goes to his parent club for approval then both county sec's for approval.

So none of the above picked this up?

Seems all rather strange.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 21, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
Sounds like a bollix alright but at the same time shows how tight clubs have to be with their administration. Certainly for the like of AccessNI there are valid forms of ID that must be submitted. Do you blame the player or do you blame the administration process? Or both?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2018, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
Sounds like a bollix alright but at the same time shows how tight clubs have to be with their administration. Certainly for the like of AccessNI there are valid forms of ID that must be submitted. Do you blame the player or do you blame the administration process? Or both?

Not like they are dealing with a cub here, the lad is regarded as a senior player here so would know full well the rights and wrongs of this and cheating the system.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2018, 02:11:38 PM
nope, nothing at all. his DOB on the transfer form was deemed as legit as it came from another club in another county.

why should we be double checking something like that to make sure its ok if its come from an official channel.

plus someone said about a data base for the information. the servasport system only has access to your own clubs information of the people who are registered within it. You cant access a mass data base of information about any other person other than who you have yourselves.

ive found the whole thing an eye opener as it shows that a system can be abused unless very stringent checks are carried out.

As Hectic say, they are adults and fully aware that to declare yourselve as being able to play a grade is your own responsibility
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 21, 2018, 04:20:20 PM
Must be a fairly unique situation you would think/hope. Dunloy should be pretty strong this season generally I would imagine.

Will be interesting to see the outcome here. You dock them points potentially throwing them into the B competition and potentially they win it at a canter.

With that there goes one of the benefits of the groups in terms of making more balanced conpetitions. Granted going by results Moneyglass seem in and around the A level anyway.

You leave them where they finish and you are potentially not backing Moneyglass's claims for a shot at A championship based on eligibility of Dunloys win against Aghagallon.

And of course there are the Dunloy lads cheated by their 'team mate'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 21, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2018, 04:20:20 PM
Must be a fairly unique situation you would think/hope. Dunloy should be pretty strong this season generally I would imagine.

Will be interesting to see the outcome here. You dock them points potentially throwing them into the B competition and potentially they win it at a canter.

With that there goes one of the benefits of the groups in terms of making more balanced conpetitions. Granted going by results Moneyglass seem in and around the A level anyway.

You leave them where they finish and you are potentially not backing Moneyglass's claims for a shot at A championship based on eligibility of Dunloys win against Aghagallon.

And of course there are the Dunloy lads cheated by their 'team mate'

In these situations, the sec and chairman of the club are usually in danger, with like year long suspensions etc.

In this case, I couldn't see that occurring, as Dunloy seem to have behaved honourably
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 21, 2018, 05:13:54 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 21, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 21, 2018, 04:20:20 PM
Must be a fairly unique situation you would think/hope. Dunloy should be pretty strong this season generally I would imagine.

Will be interesting to see the outcome here. You dock them points potentially throwing them into the B competition and potentially they win it at a canter.

With that there goes one of the benefits of the groups in terms of making more balanced conpetitions. Granted going by results Moneyglass seem in and around the A level anyway.

You leave them where they finish and you are potentially not backing Moneyglass's claims for a shot at A championship based on eligibility of Dunloys win against Aghagallon.

And of course there are the Dunloy lads cheated by their 'team mate'

In these situations, the sec and chairman of the club are usually in danger, with like year long suspensions etc.

In this case, I couldn't see that occurring, as Dunloy seem to have behaved honourably
who investigate these issues? Mr Elliott couldn't of course...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2018, 05:34:48 PM
Why could he not investigate? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 21, 2018, 05:41:28 PM
He's from dunloy and dunloy are in the dock. Can remember teams being put out for fielding illegal players
There has to b a level playing pitch for all teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 21, 2018, 05:42:47 PM
No one has answered....why the hell would or has he, The Player, done this?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2018, 05:48:56 PM
The Elliott you speak of Belfast Gaa Man is not a Cuchullian. Owen is an All Saint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2018, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 21, 2018, 05:48:56 PM
The Elliott you speak of Belfast Gaa Man is not a Cuchullian. Owen is an All Saint.

Oh dear!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 21, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Scundered then.  Just sacked my spad! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 21, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Scundered then.  Just sacked my spad!

:-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 21, 2018, 09:09:46 PM
Genuine mistake Belfast GAA man. I thought there was a Dunloy connection through hurling familywise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2018, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 21, 2018, 09:24:34 AM
A rare situation indeed. Looks like Dunloy did all they could to be fair. Should be interesting to see how this one plays out. Owen Elliott wasn't expecting this to land in his lap. I wonder has there ever been a precedent....especially to the extent that the original club signed the transfer with details intact. Messy.

Genuine mistake! This post was up a page back, Owen been doing the CCC for a while now, and if you're a GAA man that be not too difficult work out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 21, 2018, 09:55:02 PM
You been drinking hon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2018, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 21, 2018, 09:55:02 PM
You been drinking hon

Nope, have you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 21, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Don't swallow your Whistle ref. You post didn't make any sense. Obvs you're a biggerand better GAA man than me

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2018, 10:53:45 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 21, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Don't swallow your Whistle ref. You post didn't make any sense. Obvs you're a biggerand better GAA man than me

Ok, keep your pants on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 22, 2018, 07:37:07 AM
We have been docked the 2 points for the Aghagallon game and will play Moneyglass in a winner takes all game to see who will progress to the A competition.

The player in question will be banned for how long no one in our club cares as he wont be back in the gates again

No official from Dunloy has been punished and rightfully so as no one done anything wrong on our behalf

Owen Elliott has no Dunloy connections but I must say he and his committee have reached the right decision on this one

We move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2018, 07:41:05 AM
That's the fairest result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 22, 2018, 07:47:44 AM
Don't get your shorts in a knot mister2, just because you must know ever so much about antriim gaa.

A tad obnoxious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on November 22, 2018, 08:19:29 AM
Bizarre aright. I wouldn't be too hard on the player either though (not knowing the full ins and outs) - awful stupid thing to do, but young, mebbe had mates playing etc? Shouldn't drive him away for life (assuming he'd genuine reasons for transferring in first place).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 22, 2018, 08:39:48 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 22, 2018, 07:37:07 AM
We have been docked the 2 points for the Aghagallon game and will play Moneyglass in a winner takes all game to see who will progress to the A competition.

The player in question will be banned for how long no one in our club cares as he wont be back in the gates again

No official from Dunloy has been punished and rightfully so as no one done anything wrong on our behalf

Owen Elliott has no Dunloy connections but I must say he and his committee have reached the right decision on this one

We move on

Christ, if that's your clubs policy, droop your heads...

A young kid, who wants to play football, makes a mistake and regardless of real reason or juicy gossip, he's getting thrown in the trash bin.

When you lookout for your own wanes, for even longer than 22 years, you understand only some mistakes they make, not all, and try to keep them on track, that's called progress...
transgression, reasoning, punishment, restorative justice, result.

Ijustkeepdroppingballs, be a real gaa/club man and mentor, find that kid, put your arm around him, communicate your pain to him, and get him back playing football again. He'll learn from this hopefully, and maybe become one of you future stalwarts; Be a mature man, a real man.

Ps his registration details are bound to be correct by now....
Pss keep an eye on him

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 22, 2018, 08:39:56 AM
its probably a fair solution to this but at the same time a bit unfair on the players to be yet again asked to play another game.

our lads played a school game Tuesday after playing an ulster hurling final on the Sunday and then an U21 game Tuesday night. this is yet another game for them to play in what seems to be an never ending season.

but as i said its probably a fair outcome from the whole thing as under the rules we did field a player who was over age
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2018, 08:42:38 AM
Quote from: bogieman on November 22, 2018, 07:47:44 AM
Don't get your shorts in a knot mister2, just because you must know ever so much about antriim gaa.

A tad obnoxious.

You'll need thicker skin than that being on here.. don't be a snowflake
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 22, 2018, 08:52:48 AM
In the circumstances it seems a fair outcome. However are we not at the mercy of regulations as with other things discussed here?

Firstly do these groups fall under the league regulations (again discussed previously) and if so does it not then move on to C i.e. highest score for? Or are there other regulations for when a team has to forfeit a game.

Yes probably a sensible outcome but are we ignoring regulations in the process on this one? If so a dangerous precedent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2018, 08:56:50 AM
The matter seems to have been handled sensibly by CCC, it could have got a lot messier and there wouldn't be any winners in that. The extra game DR might be an inconvenience but it's better than some of the other possible outcomes.

Agree with Bogieman too...great post by the way. The kid did the wrong thing (for whatever the reason) but throwing him into oblivion wouldn't be in keeping with the club's or the GAAs welfare policy. He made a mistake as we all do, but the GAA has a much bigger role to play in our communities than fulfilling a sporting competition. As Bogieman says, be bigger than that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 22, 2018, 09:01:20 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2018, 08:56:50 AM
The matter seems to have been handled sensibly by CCC, it could have got a lot messier and there wouldn't be any winners in that. The extra game DR might be an inconvenience but it's better than some of the other possible outcomes.

Agree with Bogieman too...great post by the way. The kid did the wrong thing (for whatever the reason) but throwing him into oblivion wouldn't be in keeping with the club's or the GAAs welfare policy. He made a mistake as we all do, but the GAA has a much bigger role to play in our communities than fulfilling a sporting competition. As Bogieman says, be bigger than that.

agreed BS.

what it does though is set up a good game between ourselves and Moneyglass if Tuesday night is anything to go by
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2018, 09:02:38 AM
I think the problem here Hectic lies in that there may not have been a precedent. Could be wrong in that. In any event a national inquiry into it would run for months and no one would be playing anything. In this case common sense has been used and I don't think there would be too many objections to this at CC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 22, 2018, 09:03:28 AM
Hectic

'Firstly do these groups fall under the league regulations (again discussed previously) and if so does it not then move on to C i.e. highest score for?'


We asked that question but were told it was on head to head basis. We are happy enough with that and the best team will go through on Saturday whether that's us or Moneyglass time will tell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2018, 09:06:27 AM
DR I missed your game on Tuesday but a couple of my son's and their friends were at it, and I believe you got out of jail....or made the comeback of all time depending on what version you believe. I'll definitely make a point of seeing the "replay!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 22, 2018, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2018, 08:56:50 AM

Agree with Bogieman too...great post by the way. The kid did the wrong thing (for whatever the reason) but throwing him into oblivion wouldn't be in keeping with the club's or the GAAs welfare policy. He made a mistake as we all do, but the GAA has a much bigger role to play in our communities than fulfilling a sporting competition. As Bogieman says, be bigger than that.

Yeah it is a bit of a kick in the stones and embarrassing for a club like Dunloy who are doing brilliant work at underage but hopefully when that settles down there is a way back in for this lad. I think with young fellas in particular we have to understand mistakes in judgement can be made and as such a life sentence does not need to be passed down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 22, 2018, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 22, 2018, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2018, 08:56:50 AM

Agree with Bogieman too...great post by the way. The kid did the wrong thing (for whatever the reason) but throwing him into oblivion wouldn't be in keeping with the club's or the GAAs welfare policy. He made a mistake as we all do, but the GAA has a much bigger role to play in our communities than fulfilling a sporting competition. As Bogieman says, be bigger than that.

Yeah it is a bit of a kick in the stones and embarrassing for a club like Dunloy who are doing brilliant work at underage but hopefully when that settles down there is a way back in for this lad. I think with young fellas in particular we have to understand mistakes in judgement can be made and as such a life sentence does not need to be passed down.

Agree...great post Bogieman. I couldn't understand it but as H says it may have been to play with his mates or whatever and at 21 or 22 years of age or whatever he is he's only a child and could do with a hand or an arm round the shoulder as Bogieman says

When I look back at the decisions I made at that age, some of which were massive and life changing, made with no guidance, I hadn't a clue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 22, 2018, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2018, 09:06:27 AM
DR I missed your game on Tuesday but a couple of my son's and their friends were at it, and I believe you got out of jail....or made the comeback of all time depending on what version you believe. I'll definitely make a point of seeing the "replay!

yeah we made very hard work of it. 3 of the 4 goals were criminal to concede and made our job harder than it should of been.

at the end up we were lucky to get a draw but being 9 points down they didn't drop the heads and stuck at it to get a result.

was impressed with Moneyglass. very well organised defensively and able to translate the blanket defence into a good counter attack each time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 22, 2018, 10:32:21 AM

The Dunloy v Moneyglass U21 A championship play off game is set for Ahoghill 2pm on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 22, 2018, 10:57:31 AM
Looks as well like a number of teams did not field in at least 1 game in U21 groups. What is the craic here? Do these teams get booted out or do they get to come back in when it splits into A and B?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2018, 02:58:56 PM
Well if Dunloy didn't get booted out for cheating they can hardly boot out teams who tried unsuccessfully to field within the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 22, 2018, 03:05:09 PM
Haha and that is how quickly things can deteriorate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 22, 2018, 03:18:00 PM
Very good Bfast GAA man lol , what way does the seeding work for the u21 does 1st play second in another group ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 22, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 22, 2018, 03:18:00 PM
Very good Bfast GAA man
lol , what way does the seeding work for the u21 does 1st play second in another group ?

Open draw for qtr finals....

Gall's v Cargin Sat 3.30 Woodlands A (preliminary)

Casement's v Aghagallon Sun 2.00 Crumlin A (preliminary)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 22, 2018, 06:10:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2018, 02:58:56 PM
Well if Dunloy didn't get booted out for cheating they can hardly boot out teams who tried unsuccessfully to field within the rules

Up the dose..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 23, 2018, 08:38:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 22, 2018, 06:10:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2018, 02:58:56 PM
Well if Dunloy didn't get booted out for cheating they can hardly boot out teams who tried unsuccessfully to field within the rules

Up the dose..

;) Everyone loves a good wum on a forum lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
whos favourites for u21s then?

Dunloy, galls, aghagallon, brigids id go for

creggan surely in with a shout aswell with the forwards they have on offer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
whos favourites for u21s then?

Dunloy, galls, aghagallon, brigids id go for

creggan surely in with a shout aswell with the forwards they have on offer

Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way.
Have 10 or 11 regular seniors included and the same panel available from last year.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 11:47:15 AM
I hear st pauls are currently filing a motion so that all clubs can go through to the A section......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 23, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 23, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.

The Randalstown lads have lost nobody from last year....a big complement of 'seniors' included and they were very close to winning promotion.....cute management...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 23, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.

The Randalstown lads have lost nobody from last year....a big complement of 'seniors' included and they were very close to winning promotion.....cute management...

is that's the case then surely aghagallon should be considered as favourites, have a very young squad more than holding their own in div 1. plus their minors won the league. plus they have some amount of lads with Hogan cup medals in their back pocket
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 23, 2018, 02:29:57 PM
looks like we have an Armagh man here, yes they are a serious outfit but beaten easily by a good dunloy team be interesting to see how they do on sunday would expect them to win  IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 23, 2018, 02:29:57 PM
looks like we have an Armagh man here, yes they are a serious outfit but beaten easily by a good dunloy team be interesting to see how they do on sunday would expect them to win  IMO

Not at all, well documented that they have a very youthful side along with the numbers they had representing st ronans (saffron gael)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on November 23, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Well we at Naomh Eanna would have thought that we would be pretty competitive in the U-21 Championship until the head of the CCC told us last night that we were being ejected from the A competiton but we could play in the B. Told us we had to play a game by 1st December (same day as our Ulster Final) but wasnt prepared to give us an extra 2-3 days grace. So if Rossa beat LD at the weekend they will go through despite us finishing 2nd in the group and not having lost any matches on the pitch. Only in Antrim would this happen. We weren't looking any favours just a bit of common sense and flexibility by the CCC.
Would the head of CCC have taken this stance if he thought here was a chance of getting a vote from us at County Convention for Chairman. I dont think so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 23, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.

The Randalstown lads have lost nobody from last year....a big complement of 'seniors' included and they were very close to winning promotion.....cute management...

is that's the case then surely aghagallon should be considered as favourites, have a very young squad more than holding their own in div 1. plus their minors won the league. plus they have some amount of lads with Hogan cup medals in their back pocket

Of course Agjagallon are contenders but they were brushed aside by Dunloy in round one and had to rely of a 1-03 total without reply in the last few minutes to gain a narrow win over Moneyglass.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 03:12:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 23, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 23, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 23, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
Country Bumpkin

'Got to include Tir na Nog......beat Dunloy in last year's B final and Creggan on the way'

You sure do they were impressive against us in final last year and blitzed Cargan in group game this year. They play the same system with U21 and Senior and it works for them.

they were good against us but to be fair we didnt play as well as we should have. got unlucky with a shot that hit the bar, bounced down and out only for them to go up the pitch and score.

thems the breaks i suppose but never the less they are still a good outfit.

The Randalstown lads have lost nobody from last year....a big complement of 'seniors' included and they were very close to winning promotion.....cute management...

is that's the case then surely aghagallon should be considered as favourites, have a very young squad more than holding their own in div 1. plus their minors won the league. plus they have some amount of lads with Hogan cup medals in their back pocket

Of course Agjagallon are contenders but they were brushed aside by Dunloy in round one and had to rely of a 1-03 total without reply in the last few minutes to gain a narrow win over Moneyglass.......

wasn't at either game so cant comment. both dunloy and moneyglass seem to be 2 good sides so losing to a cheating dunloy (just joking) doesn't seem that bad as it was the 1st game. also think with the new format, teams can afford an off performance in the group stage and get away with it.

look not saying aghagallon will win it, just was making a comment regarding the randalstown debate.

my pick are creggan, having  forwards like the 2 smalls, quinn and mcateer at u21 level is absolute deadly. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 23, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Footblock on November 23, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Well we at Naomh Eanna would have thought that we would be pretty competitive in the U-21 Championship until the head of the CCC told us last night that we were being ejected from the A competiton but we could play in the B. Told us we had to play a game by 1st December (same day as our Ulster Final) but wasnt prepared to give us an extra 2-3 days grace. So if Rossa beat LD at the weekend they will go through despite us finishing 2nd in the group and not having lost any matches on the pitch. Only in Antrim would this happen. We weren't looking any favours just a bit of common sense and flexibility by the CCC.
Would the head of CCC have taken this stance if he thought here was a chance of getting a vote from us at County Convention for Chairman. I dont think so.
I hear the LD boys are fairly raging about NE cancelling their U21 game with LD 3 times at short notice.... Did NE really want the whole competition put on hold for them until December?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 23, 2018, 05:33:57 PM
Aye it's every day anantrim team gets to ulster final. What's the view like on that high horse. Could have easily caught games up in December. Rest of the teams could plough on with their games.

The problem now will be, you have a team capable of winning A playing in B.


Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 23, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Footblock on November 23, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Well we at Naomh Eanna would have thought that we would be pretty competitive in the U-21 Championship until the head of the CCC told us last night that we were being ejected from the A competiton but we could play in the B. Told us we had to play a game by 1st December (same day as our Ulster Final) but wasnt prepared to give us an extra 2-3 days grace. So if Rossa beat LD at the weekend they will go through despite us finishing 2nd in the group and not having lost any matches on the pitch. Only in Antrim would this happen. We weren't looking any favours just a bit of common sense and flexibility by the CCC.
Would the head of CCC have taken this stance if he thought here was a chance of getting a vote from us at County Convention for Chairman. I dont think so.
I hear the LD boys are fairly raging about NE cancelling their U21 game with LD 3 times at short notice.... Did NE really want the whole competition put on hold for them until December?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2018, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 23, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
Quote from: Footblock on November 23, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Well we at Naomh Eanna would have thought that we would be pretty competitive in the U-21 Championship until the head of the CCC told us last night that we were being ejected from the A competiton but we could play in the B. Told us we had to play a game by 1st December (same day as our Ulster Final) but wasnt prepared to give us an extra 2-3 days grace. So if Rossa beat LD at the weekend they will go through despite us finishing 2nd in the group and not having lost any matches on the pitch. Only in Antrim would this happen. We weren't looking any favours just a bit of common sense and flexibility by the CCC.
Would the head of CCC have taken this stance if he thought here was a chance of getting a vote from us at County Convention for Chairman. I dont think so.
I hear the LD boys are fairly raging about NE cancelling their U21 game with LD 3 times at short notice.... Did NE really want the whole competition put on hold for them until December?

I'm sure they didn't but St Endas have a chance at representing Antrim in the later stages of all Ireland club championships, and some counties see that as an opportunity to promote their GAA on a national stage, think it's hard on them but they should concentrate solely on the final they are in,and send out a weaker under 21 team and hope for the best.

Playing this competition always throws up fixture issues, hard to please everyone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on November 23, 2018, 09:45:32 PM
MR2  we would have fielded an understrength team but when 8 starters on your senior team are u-21 and another 5 or 6 subs it doesnt leave you with many players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2018, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: Footblock on November 23, 2018, 09:45:32 PM
MR2  we would have fielded an understrength team but when 8 starters on your senior team are u-21 and another 5 or 6 subs it doesnt leave you with many players.

Yeah it tough on yous, and even tougher on the ones in the B championship once you have your full allocation! As a club you have to weigh up your targets this year and it's an Ulster championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 08:13:05 AM
Hard to know what to make of all that. We should be supporting our clubs efforts in Ulster but at the same time U21 needs to keep moving.

Could they not have let St Endas U21s finish up group midweek and do the draw anyway based on either/or pairings. Plenty of the games have been played on week days already and plenty of teams have not fulfilled fixtures already. Plus they allowed a bit of movement on Dunloy.

As MR2 alludes it could make a balls of the B championship to the point it renders the groups ( along with the time of year responsible for the fixture pile ups in the first place) pointless.

Hopefully some solution to fixtures can be found next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2018, 09:26:03 AM
Personally I think this is hard on St Endas. It's possible that they could lose the intermediate club final (hope I'm wrong here) but go on to be county under 21 champions...and at the minute in my book they would be favourites to do so!

We won the county intermediate a few years ago but I think our club celebrated an under 21 title much more so around the same time.

If it's not too late, surely a way could be found to keep the best teams in the competition. Otherwise both A and B Grade competitions lose a bit of their meaning.

The only other solution I can think of is when St Endas win the B competition they play off with the winners of the A grade to see who represents Antrim in the Creggan tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 10:39:07 AM
Surely the whole point in A and B is to create a competition for the lower ranked teams. Otherwise why have a B?
I think this decsision on St Endas needs revisited as a matter of urgency.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Should St Endas not be serious contenders for A? The like of them and Randalstown who have a large contingent on good senior teams gives a really strong base for winning this competition as we have seen historically.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
Still think we have a duty to support our teams competing in Ulster. I have a lot of sympathy with St Enda's here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 24, 2018, 12:42:27 PM
St Enda's may have success winning two B championships this year, the history books will be kinder to them...

Above are the illustrious seniors and A's, around are the illustrious medians and B's.  Do they deserve a crown of the virtues, or a pusillanimous crown ?

Ps The dreadnoughts play div 2 football, worthy competitors. Proper county administration.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on November 24, 2018, 02:38:23 PM
Pusillanimous
Showing a lack of courage or determination;

For those like me who didn't know what it meant 😳😳😳
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 24, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
Do the teams that lose in the u21 prelim round play in the b grade ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2018, 03:34:42 PM
Dunloy will take some stopping on today's form. Tuesday's draw might just have wakened them up a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 05:16:37 PM
Any new faces on the antrim panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 05:30:09 PM
So st Endas have no class? Because the county decided to inforce this... catch a grip.


Quote from: farset on November 24, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
St Enda's are going to play in the B? How is that fair on the teams who are at their level in the B? If they had any class they would pull out themselves instead of bulldozing all the B teams out of their way to win a championship they were too strong for at the expense of the teams playing THEIR championship. But they have form in that regard

If you fail to field or break the rules like Dunloy surely that should amount to you getting booted out of the competition?? Do these competitions not have rules?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 05:33:01 PM
You are a complete idiot... don't like the twitter posts then unfollow the page. You should try chanel your energy and efforts into positive actions rather that this negative hatred which currently seems to mostly be vented towards st endas.


Quote from: farset on November 24, 2018, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 10:39:07 AM
Surely the whole point in A and B is to create a competition for the lower ranked teams. Otherwise why have a B?
I think this decsision on St Endas needs revisited as a matter of urgency.

I don't think there's any way around it. They are in a unique position of being in an Ulster Intermediate (cough) Championship final.

Kind of like Man Utd the time they pulled out of the FA cup because they were in the World club.

What do they want the rest of the teams to do? Hang about and train until they are good to play in the championship? As I said if they had any class, they'd pull out of the B but my bet will be that they'll play in it and swat the B teams to the side like flies and then post 5000 twitter posts about being champions lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 24, 2018, 06:06:37 PM
U21 group 5, what happens now in this farce. NE in B?, who from LD & ODR go into A. Both have a win each and 2 losses, both likley to struggle in A based on results.
LD had their game V NE postponed on 3 occasions. Can ODR claim points in their game v NE following their demotion to B


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2018, 07:04:27 PM
The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 07:08:35 PM
Rossa beat ld today... both now on 2 points. So they have to play each other again on Tuesday night in a playoff to see who goes into the A competition. Laughable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 07:10:29 PM
Agree. Dilutes the whole competition and at this time of your pitches, lights and weather arent great. Would avoid many of the problems we have already encountered in this competition so far.

Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 07:11:48 PM
No seeding. Open draw. Pure luck. Best team should still win it. Those knocked out in round 1 can go play for a shield or else dont have a shield.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 07:12:35 PM
Nonsense

Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on November 24, 2018, 07:12:47 PM
This farce from the CCC gets worse. As of today's game between LD and ODR, Naomh Eanna finished 2nd in the section on score difference even though we only played 1 game and yet we havent been awarded a place in the 'A' competition. To my astonishment I have just discovered that CCC are now making LD and ODR play again on Tuesday night at Jordanstown to see who goes forward to the A competition.
Honestly talk about winging it and making it up as you go along. Have the CCC no shame? They should be seriously embarrassed. We may not win the A championship as there are a number of good teams like Gall's, Dunloy, Creggan, Portglenone et al but we would like to be afforded the opportunity. So much for supporting Antrim's representatives in Ulster.
As for entering the B championship Farset can make all the snide comments he wants but without having spoken to our players I would say that they would have no inclination to enter any such competition not out of snobbery but out of respect for legitimate B clubs who would aspire to win this. By relegating us to the B competition the CCC have show massive disrespect to the sides in the B competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2018, 07:04:27 PM
The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:18:28 PM
Quote from: breakingball on November 24, 2018, 07:11:48 PM
No seeding. Open draw. Pure luck. Best team should still win it. Those knocked out in round 1 can go play for a shield or else dont have a shield.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

Dont agree. For example Aghagallon could meet creggan. 2 geniune contenders while loser into b comp and romps it

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2018, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2018, 07:04:27 PM
The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

Did portglenone not draw with creggan so you would expect to do something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:22:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2018, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2018, 07:04:27 PM
The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

Did portglenone not draw with creggan so you would expect to do something.

Yeah defintly, just naming ones of the top of my head. Could easily beat Aghagallon tomorrow. But again as i said....div 1  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

Full of under 21's? How many 3/4? Certainly I can remember only ever getting 3 or 4 from minor or under 21 teams progressing to a senior team, probably different for lower placed senior teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

Full of under 21's? How many 3/4? Certainly I can remember only ever getting 3 or 4 from minor or under 21 teams progressing to a senior team, probably different for lower placed senior teams

Jesus. St endas not have 10 u21 starters? Thought a man from the mighty st galls would know everything....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:35:50 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

Full of under 21's? How many 3/4? Certainly I can remember only ever getting 3 or 4 from minor or under 21 teams progressing to a senior team, probably different for lower placed senior teams

Jesus. St endas not have 10 u21 starters? Thought a man from the mighty st galls would know everything....

Intermediate football isn't my thing, so I'll bow to your knowledge..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:40:21 PM
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All championship should be knockout, save the hassle. Have a seeded draw to avoid 2 of the big guns meeting eachother in the 1st round. Seed teams based on their senior league position. Simple.

How do you seed under 21? No league to gauge and form changes from one year to the next! Not simple enough

As i said senior league position. 9/10 your gonna get a winner of the u21 cship based on a strong senior team. Cant think of any recent winners that have came from teams in the lower half of div2/3.

The amount of non fixtures in this years comp has been an embarrassment. Seeded draw along with straight knockout is the way it should be imo. Still have the a and b comps

Senior? More than half the lads at under 21 never play senior! You can't look at senior places. Open draw job done best team wins, if the best team knocks out the '2nd' best team in first round so be it, we got Cargin one year after losing All Ireland and got knocked out in first round! No complaints

Really??? Take a look at creggan, aghagallon, r'town, st endas, dunloy. Senior teams full of u21s

Full of under 21's? How many 3/4? Certainly I can remember only ever getting 3 or 4 from minor or under 21 teams progressing to a senior team, probably different for lower placed senior teams

Jesus. St endas not have 10 u21 starters? Thought a man from the mighty st galls would know everything....

Intermediate football isn't my thing, so I'll bow to your knowledge..

By the looks of things, itl not be long til youl be following in your hurlers footsteps. Them old horses cant run forever you know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:47:09 PM
Ah sure we can win everything, it's good to see other teams compete. We might even end up at Junior level..

I'd say Cargin ourselves won't be competing at the top table for a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 07:52:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 07:47:09 PM
Ah sure we can win everything, it's good to see other teams compete. We might even end up at Junior level..

I'd say Cargin ourselves won't be competing at the top table for a while

I think your right you know. Best years behind for sure....*wins next 10 antrim chsips between them*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 24, 2018, 08:39:21 PM
Talked to a few u21 managers from city and country and they r puzzled about Saturday afternoon matches on instead of Sunday. A lots of lads missing with Saturday jobs in run up to Christmas. For the knock out phase Sundays please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 24, 2018, 08:39:21 PM
Talked to a few u21 managers from city and country and they r puzzled about Saturday afternoon matches on instead of Sunday. A lots of lads missing with Saturday jobs in run up to Christmas. For the knock out phase Sundays please

As many lads have the same jobs on a Sunday leading up to Xmas surely!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Footblock on November 24, 2018, 07:12:47 PM
This farce from the CCC gets worse. As of today's game between LD and ODR, Naomh Eanna finished 2nd in the section on score difference even though we only played 1 game and yet we havent been awarded a place in the 'A' competition. To my astonishment I have just discovered that CCC are now making LD and ODR play again on Tuesday night at Jordanstown to see who goes forward to the A competition.
Honestly talk about winging it and making it up as you go along. Have the CCC no shame? They should be seriously embarrassed. We may not win the A championship as there are a number of good teams like Gall's, Dunloy, Creggan, Portglenone et al but we would like to be afforded the opportunity. So much for supporting Antrim's representatives in Ulster.
As for entering the B championship Farset can make all the snide comments he wants but without having spoken to our players I would say that they would have no inclination to enter any such competition not out of snobbery but out of respect for legitimate B clubs who would aspire to win this. By relegating us to the B competition the CCC have show massive disrespect to the sides in the B competition.

Agree with these sentiments.

Though would still enter the B. Even to make a point. Barrier would be other B teams but then it could be paying them more respect proving you can win B than operating on the assumption you will.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 09:43:34 PM
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The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

Pretty sure Aghagallon played Div 2 when they won it. 2016? Could be wrong.

And beaten finalists the year before as a div 3 team. Again could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 24, 2018, 09:49:26 PM
U r such a yes man ! We live in a country where shops are not allowed to open until 1 on Sundays. 11 s 1130 starts would work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 24, 2018, 10:08:38 PM
Surely Saturday soccer is more of a negative force
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:12 PM
How many kids play soccer? I've no time for soccer lads tbh, if you love your club and GAA it's a simple choice.

If a club mate chooses soccer over a club match in my team he wouldn't be playing for me. Kids work all week during Xmas, I'll be doing a game on Tuesday night, shops are opened and some lads might be away at college..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 10:22:45 PM
Quote from: Hectic on November 24, 2018, 09:43:34 PM
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The top teams don't look to be coming from any of the top senior teams at all though.Not fair at all.

The best you could do is from 3 years previous in the minor.

Creggan won the senior league and the team that beats them in the u21s will be the winner. Aghagallon, st galls, st brigids will be the 1s to compete with them, all div 1.

Look at the 6 previous years winners. Rossa-div 1. Aghagallon-div1. St johns x 3-div1. Pg1-div 1 or on the cusp of being promoted.

No disrespect to antirm town and st pauls, theyl not be winning it.

Only fair that geniune contenders ie creggan,galls are seeded. But again lads, just my opinion

Pretty sure Aghagallon played Div 2 when they won it. 2016? Could be wrong.

And beaten finalists the year before as a div 3 team. Again could be wrong.

Think they won the league and intermediate when they won it.

Look my point was that this years format is a farce. Laughable that rossa and ld play again in 3 days time.

Back to the old format with some sort of seeding to allow for an ultra competitive cship with the best playing the best. Seeding also helps the lesser teams as they will also have a genuine chance of silverware. No point the loser of creggan v dunloy (hypothetical) going into the b comp as they will walk it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:12 PM
How many kids play soccer? I've no time for soccer lads tbh, if you love your club and GAA it's a simple choice.

If a club mate chooses soccer over a club match in my team he wouldn't be playing for me. Kids work all week during Xmas, I'll be doing a game on Tuesday night, shops are opened and some lads might be away at college..

Interested to hear your thoughts on players from other clubs who dont enter a team at u21 playing for a different club? Rossa seem to have a couple every year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:12 PM
How many kids play soccer? I've no time for soccer lads tbh, if you love your club and GAA it's a simple choice.

If a club mate chooses soccer over a club match in my team he wouldn't be playing for me. Kids work all week during Xmas, I'll be doing a game on Tuesday night, shops are opened and some lads might be away at college..

Interested to hear your thoughts on players from other clubs who dont enter a team at u21 playing for a different club? Rossa seem to have a couple every year

Do all clubs have an under21 team?  Should  players not play at all or if there is a sanction you can play for a club for a season? We didn't field one year at under 21 hurling. We didn't have the ability to move to another club, I wish we did but I lost out, along with others. you can now and people do it..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:12 PM
How many kids play soccer? I've no time for soccer lads tbh, if you love your club and GAA it's a simple choice.

If a club mate chooses soccer over a club match in my team he wouldn't be playing for me. Kids work all week during Xmas, I'll be doing a game on Tuesday night, shops are opened and some lads might be away at college..

Interested to hear your thoughts on players from other clubs who dont enter a team at u21 playing for a different club? Rossa seem to have a couple every year

Do all clubs have an under21 team?  Should  players not play at all or if there is a sanction you can play for a club for a season? We didn't field one year at under 21 hurling. We didn't have the ability to move to another club, I wish we did but I lost out, along with others. you can now and people do it..

Dont blame any player for doing so under those circumstances.
Personally would never do it myself. Surely would have a negative effect to some degree. How would the lsds sitting on the bench feel, playinh for a club all their life then all of a sudden their place gets taken by a lad who is gonna play 4/5 games. Dont agree with it myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 12:59:10 AM
Quote from: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 12:33:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: The gooch on November 24, 2018, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:12 PM
How many kids play soccer? I've no time for soccer lads tbh, if you love your club and GAA it's a simple choice.

If a club mate chooses soccer over a club match in my team he wouldn't be playing for me. Kids work all week during Xmas, I'll be doing a game on Tuesday night, shops are opened and some lads might be away at college..

Interested to hear your thoughts on players from other clubs who dont enter a team at u21 playing for a different club? Rossa seem to have a couple every year

Do all clubs have an under21 team?  Should  players not play at all or if there is a sanction you can play for a club for a season? We didn't field one year at under 21 hurling. We didn't have the ability to move to another club, I wish we did but I lost out, along with others. you can now and people do it..

Dont blame any player for doing so under those circumstances.
Personally would never do it myself. Surely would have a negative effect to some degree. How would the lsds sitting on the bench feel, playinh for a club all their life then all of a sudden their place gets taken by a lad who is gonna play 4/5 games. Dont agree with it myself.

Players have to play themselves onto a team, whether they have been there all their short lived or came from another club.. managers will never ask for a sanction unless their team is struggling I believe, or should be the case..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2018, 08:54:20 AM
The 'sanction' is a relatively new development and one which has never been utilised at Cargin or at any, or very few from South West
Surely an amalgamation of several clubs at under-21 level to include a couple from the first division ensures a big advantage.
Are we to anticipate a time in the future when Cargin, Creggan, and Moneyglass for example will ditch individual identities and pride within and get together for an attempt at short term gain..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 25, 2018, 08:54:20 AM
The 'sanction' is a relatively new development and one which has never been utilised at Cargin or at any, or very few from South West
Surely an amalgamation of several clubs at under-21 level to include a couple from the first division ensures a big advantage.
Are we to anticipate a time in the future when Cargin, Creggan, and Moneyglass for example will ditch individual identities and pride within and get together for an attempt at short term gain..?

Think its more of a city thing. Cant see many players from SW willing to represent another club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 25, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
In football. There have been combination teams from N Antrim playing A Championship in the minor and maybe even u21 hurling in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on November 25, 2018, 09:44:43 AM
Do portglenone not have rasharkin players at the minute or maneyglass have ahoghill players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 25, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
U21 Football needs a serious overhaul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 10:09:46 AM
Quote from: breakingball on November 25, 2018, 09:44:43 AM
Do portglenone not have rasharkin players at the minute or maneyglass have ahoghill players?

Havent a clue. Suppose im justt speaking from the point of view from my own club. Were fortunate enough to have never been in a situation were our players have had to play for another club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
I remember a team made up of 2 SW clubs which won a few minors.. god strange how the memory fades
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 10:12:43 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 25, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
U21 Football needs a serious overhaul.

Group stage is a farce. Always admired the county board for not having round robin football cship like armagh donegal etc have. Championship not matter what code should be straight knockout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 25, 2018, 10:13:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 25, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
U21 Football needs a serious overhaul.

It was overhauled  into 5 groups of 4vteams this year.
Clubs accepted this change.  The main problem with the competition is the timing of it . Too late in year ...Too many u21s away at uni.... No one would be anticapated st endas getting to Ulster final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 10:18:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
I remember a team made up of 2 SW clubs which won a few minors.. god strange how the memory fades

Haha i assume you mean sean stinsons. They were a team around for years, not just the best player plucked fron davitts to play for rossa for 4 games a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 25, 2018, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 25, 2018, 10:13:59 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 25, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
U21 Football needs a serious overhaul.

It was overhauled  into 5 groups of 4vteams this year.
Clubs accepted this change.  The main problem with the competition is the timing of it . Too late in year ...Too many u21s away at uni.... No one would be anticapated st endas getting to Ulster final

Yep. As I say needs a serious overhaul.

Throw in clashing with league business initially then senior championship business on reschedule Throw in combo teams and apparent making up of the rules as they go.

Yes groups good in theory....

In this case like sticking a tiara on a pig.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
I remember a team made up of 2 SW clubs which won a few minors.. god strange how the memory fades

The 11th commandment is thou shalt not slag off Belfast clubs or MR will get p***ed off ;D

Sean Stinsons was slightly different - there was never a portglenone or ahoghill team to leave in those days to go to sean stinsons so you lpayed for stinsons from a young age. Also it was an independent entity as opposed to playing for another club.

It happens in the country too - you could rhyme off maybe 5 - 10 boys of some kind of profile. I think quite a few were fallings out mind but even still it happens. It just seems a bit more prevalent in the city.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2018, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
I remember a team made up of 2 SW clubs which won a few minors.. god strange how the memory fades

The 11th commandment is thou shalt not slag off Belfast clubs or MR will get p***ed off ;D

Sean Stinsons was slightly different - there was never a portglenone or ahoghill team to leave in those days to go to sean stinsons so you lpayed for stinsons from a young age. Also it was an independent entity as opposed to playing for another club.

It happens in the country too - you could rhyme off maybe 5 - 10 boys of some kind of profile. I think quite a few were fallings out mind but even still it happens. It just seems a bit more prevalent in the city.

Goes a bit far when a serious div one team supplements with players from a club from the top division as well as a couple from lower divisions.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
I remember a team made up of 2 SW clubs which won a few minors.. god strange how the memory fades

The 11th commandment is thou shalt not slag off Belfast clubs or MR will get p***ed off ;D

Sean Stinsons was slightly different - there was never a portglenone or ahoghill team to leave in those days to go to sean stinsons so you lpayed for stinsons from a young age. Also it was an independent entity as opposed to playing for another club.

It happens in the country too - you could rhyme off maybe 5 - 10 boys of some kind of profile. I think quite a few were fallings out mind but even still it happens. It just seems a bit more prevalent in the city.

Just a bit of balance Tommy  ;D

Dress it up all you want, it was a team made up of two clubs, who when they got to senior played for the 'own' clubs...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2018, 12:48:23 PM
As I remember Stimson's was an amalgamation of two junior clubs to make up a juvenile entity.....participating in S West juvenile competition to minor level only....
Such was certainly successful as the lads who participated within the ranks ensured the health of their parent clubs underlined by their respective current well being.
Both Casement's and St Mary's are strong senior clubs based in the top division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
I remember a team made up of 2 SW clubs which won a few minors.. god strange how the memory fades

The 11th commandment is thou shalt not slag off Belfast clubs or MR will get p***ed off ;D

Sean Stinsons was slightly different - there was never a portglenone or ahoghill team to leave in those days to go to sean stinsons so you lpayed for stinsons from a young age. Also it was an independent entity as opposed to playing for another club.

It happens in the country too - you could rhyme off maybe 5 - 10 boys of some kind of profile. I think quite a few were fallings out mind but even still it happens. It just seems a bit more prevalent in the city.

Just a bit of balance Tommy  ;D

Dress it up all you want, it was a team made up of two clubs, who when they got to senior played for the 'own' clubs...

I don't see an issue with it. Or playing underage with another club as your own team can't field.

If you leave your own club for glory hunting reasons that is different but not the case here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 12:59:47 PM
On a completely separate note... BS what was the answer to the medals question?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2018, 04:49:27 PM
Casements progress to the U 21 quarter final U 21 after beating Aghagallon today in Creggan.

The answer ITG is Andrew Mc Clean and Kevin Niblock. Both are from the 1985 year group, and along with Paul Veronica won practically everything possible. A couple of minor medals, three under 21 chips, 9 seniors, two Ulsters, one All Ireland club senior, as well as four or five National seven a sides. 

If anyone can beat this please let us know.....but I doubt it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
Very poor game up in creggan today for the neutral. A lot of wides and very sloppy play. Aghagallon were very poor, expected much better given the hype around them. Did notice that pg1 had hasson of rasharkin in nets, come on lads yous arent rossa!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 25, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Took the trip down to kickams to watch the u21 game, a very poor game. despite casements and kickams drawing in the group stage I would expect kickams to progress to the semi finals after watching that today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 25, 2018, 04:49:27 PM
Casements progress to the U 21 quarter final U 21 after beating Aghagallon today in Creggan.

The answer ITG is Andrew Mc Clean and Kevin Niblock. Both are from the 1985 year group, and along with Paul Veronica won practically everything possible. A couple of minor medals, three under 21 chips, 9 seniors, two Ulsters, one All Ireland club senior, as well as four or five National seven a sides. 

If anyone can beat this please let us know.....but I doubt it!

Cheers bs. You have a closer knowledge of it than me so i will take your word for it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 25, 2018, 09:36:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 25, 2018, 04:49:27 PM
Casements progress to the U 21 quarter final U 21 after beating Aghagallon today in Creggan.

The answer ITG is Andrew Mc Clean and Kevin Niblock. Both are from the 1985 year group, and along with Paul Veronica won practically everything possible. A couple of minor medals, three under 21 chips, 9 seniors, two Ulsters, one All Ireland club senior, as well as four or five National seven a sides. 

If anyone can beat this please let us know.....but I doubt it!
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Cheers bs. You have a closer knowledge of it than me so i will take your word for it!

Some medal haul. Niblock my favorite player to watch over past 15 years. Serious talent who coulda made most county teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 09:42:03 PM
I would have said sean kelly. Stood out even at sigerson which is rare to see for an antrim player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 25, 2018, 09:48:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 25, 2018, 09:42:03 PM
I would have said sean kelly. Stood out even at sigerson which is rare to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 26, 2018, 07:50:51 AM
Bannside

'Dunloy will take some stopping on today's form. Tuesday's draw might just have wakened them up a bit'

Much more like the thing Bannside after a sluggish 1st half where we missed 4/5 goal chances we controlled the 2nd half and it was a joy to watch. Tough assignment coming up quarter final on Saturday in Woodlands against St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket....But the question was simply which players have the largest collection of medals. On that basis the three 1985s from St Galls had a great platform early in their career, e.g. in 2003 they won all three medals minor U21 and senior. 

If Andy Mc Clean has a Sigerson medal (he was on UUJ panel) he would be out on his own then. Not sure if he has or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:56:37 AM
Dunloy will take some stopping no doubt. Their link up play is superb, and they have decent players in every position. Will take a good team to beat them this year, now that football is their sole focus for the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 26, 2018, 10:33:54 AM
was impressed with our second half on sat. we tagged 5 points in a row and then the goal killed it.

as you say BS the link up play from defence to attack is very good and it made the difference to them. with the entire out field team also playing hurling you can see that fast pace that they are so used to playing at and it stood to them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2018, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket....But the question was simply which players have the largest collection of medals. On that basis the three 1985s from St Galls had a great platform early in their career, e.g. in 2003 they won all three medals minor U21 and senior. 

If Andy Mc Clean has a Sigerson medal (he was on UUJ panel) he would be out on his own then. Not sure if he has or not.

13 senior and 4 under 21's and a minor the likes of the mcgourtys have and add in the sevens and that a nice medal haul and a few hurling for Cairan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2018, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation. IMO

Fixed that for ye..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2018, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Brilliant no doubt but Kelly for me has been most gifted in antrim for many a year. Again IMO lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Massive shout there. Impossible to compare the 2 IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2018, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Massive shout there. Impossible to compare the 2 IMO.

Sean Kelly probably being the second best player of that generation... IMO.  I just think that if they marked each other, McCann would have too much athleticism.  Football ability, they would be neck and neck.

Of course it's in my opinion, who else's opinion would it be?

So for that comment when Aidso Gallagher marked Mick he won most battles, as we won most games, so is he a better player?.. and why would a defender be marking a midfielder? totaly different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 26, 2018, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Massive shout there. Impossible to compare the 2 IMO.

Sean Kelly probably being the second best player of that generation... IMO.  I just think that if they marked each other, McCann would have too much athleticism.  Football ability, they would be neck and neck.

Of course it's in my opinion, who else's opinion would it be?


Sean, whilst superb at club level was unfortunately found out at Inter County level.  Niblock for me was St Gall's greatest player and turned in performances at county level also. A class act.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 26, 2018, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Do we forget Michael Mc Cann was the recipient of a replacement All Star award and a couple of Ulster's.....and he is still in his prime...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2018, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 26, 2018, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Massive shout there. Impossible to compare the 2 IMO.

Sean Kelly probably being the second best player of that generation... IMO.  I just think that if they marked each other, McCann would have too much athleticism.  Football ability, they would be neck and neck.

Of course it's in my opinion, who else's opinion would it be?


Sean, whilst superb at club level was unfortunately found out at Inter County level.  Niblock for me was St Gall's greatest player and turned in performances at county level also. A class act.

All about opinions I suppose, for me Sean had/has everything in his locker, on and off the field and a outstanding role model for everyone in our club.. A leader on the pitch and now off it, we've been lucky to have so many of them with the same attitude, which is why we were so successful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 26, 2018, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Massive shout there. Impossible to compare the 2 IMO.

Sean Kelly probably being the second best player of that generation... IMO.  I just think that if they marked each other, McCann would have too much athleticism.  Football ability, they would be neck and neck.

Of course it's in my opinion, who else's opinion would it be?


Sean, whilst superb at club level was unfortunately found out at Inter County level.  Niblock for me was St Gall's greatest player and turned in performances at county level also. A class act.

When was he found out? He was a ball playing half back and due to our lack of corner backs he ended up there half the time and still did a decent job.

not denying Mick McCann has been fantastic too. We have been lucky to have both and could be a while before our county sees the likes again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on November 26, 2018, 01:58:47 PM


Do we forget Michael Mc Cann was the recipient of a replacement All Star award and a couple of Ulster's.....and he is still in his prime...
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When was this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 26, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
Sean, whilst superb at club level was unfortunately found out at Inter County level.  Niblock for me was St Gall's greatest player and turned in performances at county level also. A class act.
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When was he found out? He was a ball playing half back and due to our lack of corner backs he ended up there half the time and still did a decent job.

not denying Mick McCann has been fantastic too. We have been lucky to have both and could be a while before our county sees the likes again.
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Corner back? I'm actually struggling to remember a good game he played for the county, not even an outstanding game.  Look super club player, top top club player,  but wasn't county grade. Some players are made for club and some for county, lucky ones for both. Sean was club. Niblock and Aidso were both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on November 26, 2018, 04:19:32 PM
not saying niblock was the best but was/is my favourite player to watch in antrim football. does things most players cant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
Farset you are 100% entitled to your opinion and plenty will agree with you, but to say that Mick would have been FAR better athletically is well off the mark IMO.

Both had Rolls Royce engines, and both had the early sprint speed as well as high endurance, which is quite rare because usually you have one or the other.

Mick had a better county career and was a better fielder of a ball, but Sean Kelly oozed class, totally selfless, and always made it look simple. Two real gooduns. I'd still say that Niblock is the supporters choice though as Antrims best player of the last 15 years. Feel free to disagree it's only one opinion!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on November 26, 2018, 05:11:36 PM
They will need a solid keeper before winning anything! Was at the games against A'Gallon/B'Mena and M'Glass and before winning anything they need a keeper who can kick the ball out and not leak soft goals. It's the most important position on the pitch nowadays.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 26, 2018, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on November 26, 2018, 01:58:47 PM


Do we forget Michael Mc Cann was the recipient of a replacement All Star award and a couple of Ulster's.....and he is still in his prime...

When was this?
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Replacement All Star in 2010....
Ulster's in 09, 10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2018, 05:50:58 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 26, 2018, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
If we are talking best footballers of their generation then Sean Kelly and Mick Mc Cann are up there in that elite bracket...

Put Mick McCann on Sean Kelly though and what happens?

Mick McCann by far and away the best player of his generation.

Massive shout there. Impossible to compare the 2 IMO.

Sean Kelly probably being the second best player of that generation... IMO.  I just think that if they marked each other, McCann would have too much athleticism.  Football ability, they would be neck and neck.

Of course it's in my opinion, who else's opinion would it be?


Sean, whilst superb at club level was unfortunately found out at Inter County level.  Niblock for me was St Gall's greatest player and turned in performances at county level also. A class act.

When was he found out? He was a ball playing half back and due to our lack of corner backs he ended up there half the time and still did a decent job.

not denying Mick McCann has been fantastic too. We have been lucky to have both and could be a while before our county sees the likes again.

Nobody is talking about the man being a role-model on or off the pitch or how nice a guy he is. He is all of those things and more without a doubt but he didn't have the dyanism, athleticism, explosiveness or ability of Mick McCann IN MY OPINION.

He was a great player. Not criticising him at all. Just think Mick was better.

Mick didn't always play midfield. Just because St Galls had a better team doesn't make Mick a lesser player. Aidso was put on to spoil him quite a bit and then the half back and half forwards of St Galls picked up the loose and breaking ball.

Mick McCann would be the best player, even now, on the St Galls team.

Well apples and oranges really, difficult for me to compare, essentially a midfield player and a halfback player making each other?  can't remember mick playing for a period as a half back or being picked up by Sean so I get your opinion that he was better player, but the other bit of if they were marking each other stuff, but like saying Batman is better than Superman  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ahoy hoy on November 26, 2018, 06:31:17 PM
Quote from: farset on November 26, 2018, 05:57:44 PM
Aye Superman would knock Batman's ballix in.

Spide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 06:35:29 PM
Batman wouldn't stand a chance with the hulk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2018, 06:41:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 26, 2018, 06:35:29 PM
Batman wouldn't stand a chance with the hulk

Horses for courses, as they say!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 27, 2018, 10:58:32 AM
have many clubs appointed managers yet or is it much the same? 
LD- Bunting Lynch etc there again
St Johns - expect the same
ST Galls - Would expect an inside man but not Kelly
Rossa - Would expect a change
St Ts - Hearing a change
Cargin - Cassidy in again
Creggan - Madden in again
St Endas - Would be a big shock if fitzy and co don't stay on
Casements - the fella donnely is taking Glen Maghera
Ahoghill - Announced on their facebook page the management team stepped away
Aghagallon - Think Kevin Murray will be there for a few years yet

Anyone shed any light on this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 29, 2018, 06:01:43 AM
Quote from: Footblock on November 24, 2018, 07:12:47 PM
This farce from the CCC gets worse. As of today's game between LD and ODR, Naomh Eanna finished 2nd in the section on score difference even though we only played 1 game and yet we havent been awarded a place in the 'A' competition. To my astonishment I have just discovered that CCC are now making LD and ODR play again on Tuesday night at Jordanstown to see who goes forward to the A competition.
Honestly talk about winging it and making it up as you go along. Have the CCC no shame? They should be seriously embarrassed. We may not win the A championship as there are a number of good teams like Gall's, Dunloy, Creggan, Portglenone et al but we would like to be afforded the opportunity. So much for supporting Antrim's representatives in Ulster.
As for entering the B championship Farset can make all the snide comments he wants but without having spoken to our players I would say that they would have no inclination to enter any such competition not out of snobbery but out of respect for legitimate B clubs who would aspire to win this. By relegating us to the B competition the CCC have show massive disrespect to the sides in the B competition.






Foot block to be fair when I read this I felt a lot of sympathy for the club and team like others on this board I'm sure. However now that I have heard the full story from a senior member of the CB last night (who again would have had sympathy also), who took me through the processes and communication that took place with your club and the other clubs in your group throughout the month of November from the CCC.  I would suggest you go back to your senior club officials who should be suitably embarrassed if the process that was outlined to me occurred! Get them to explain to those lads in the U21 panel what did go on and why you are now in the B competition! What I will say if what was explained to me last night did happen as outlined who do youse really think youse are? If some of the clubs out there hear what your club allegedly asked the CCC to do then you could quickly get a reputation that you will find had to shake .... such arrogance and total disrespect for the other teams in the competition.  God help us if that's the attitude of your representative that's running for County Chair and wins!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2018, 11:07:54 AM
I see that NE are on fixture list for U21 B next week. Have they swallowed their pride and dropped down into B C/ship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 29, 2018, 11:21:44 AM
The truth will set you free!!!!! Or make a laughing stock out of you!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 29, 2018, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 08:13:11 AM
Details, man. Details!
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I wish I could Farset but as the old saying goes " Nothing remains a secret in the GAA" as the CB member reminded me of last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2018, 11:34:48 AM
our lads have had to endure countless games during all of the U21 championship

3rd v Aghagallon U21 football
11th v Dungannon Ulster Minor hurling semi final
13th v ballymena U21 football
18th v Dungiven Ulster minor hurling final,
20th v Moneyglass U21 football (schools football match that day as well)
24th v Moneyglass U21 football

6 games in a month and thats not counting schools matches but thats the price you pay for having success in your club and you roll with it and work around it the best you can.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 29, 2018, 11:37:29 AM
Well said DR and they couldn't even play 1 over 4 weeks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
Good luck to NE in the Ulster final but how is it fair on genuine B u21 teams that they are in the B when they sound like a genuine top A team? They could run up big wins and that's no good for anyone....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
Good luck to NE in the Ulster final but how is it fair on genuine B u21 teams that they are in the B when they sound like a genuine top A team? They could run up big wins and that's no good for anyone....

Why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist over a 'b' competition ? The county has tried a group stage championship when in reality we've only ever had straight knockout competitions, the county has tried to give under 21's more games at a grade that is usually forgotten about in terms of fixtures, and when the county do something positive they get hammered for it!

A 21 year old is only concerned with winning the top level grade of their club (be that Junior, Intermediate or senior), everything else won't be remembered.. different if you are 12/14/16 when those thing matter..

Hopefully St Enda's win at the weekend, they are up against a top team and won't get it easy but they have adapted well to the Ulster games and will be a huge spring board to greater things next year at Senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2018, 01:36:55 PM
I think its more the poor timing of it thats causing the problems. the U21 hurling championship has been done and dusted ages ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 29, 2018, 01:36:55 PM
I think its more the poor timing of it thats causing the problems. the U21 hurling championship has been done and dusted ages ago


Knock out competition...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 29, 2018, 01:36:55 PM
I think its more the poor timing of it thats causing the problems. the U21 hurling championship has been done and dusted ages ago


Knock out competition...

true but it should of been run off earlier.

if, and i say if, we win this weekend against yourselves then we are into the Ulster Minor football championship which causes even more hashes for ourselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2018, 02:21:01 PM
Knock out competition is correct. Refs aswell as players are under enough pressure with games at this time of year.  4 weeks would have it done. If
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on November 29, 2018, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 29, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 29, 2018, 01:36:55 PM
I think its more the poor timing of it thats causing the problems. the U21 hurling championship has been done and dusted ages ago


Knock out competition
true but it should of been run off earlier.

if, and i say if, we win this weekend against yourselves then we are into the Ulster Minor football championship which causes even more hashes for ourselves.

In recent years Slaughneil have had to sacrifice there chances of winning an u21 football and hurling championship through the success of there senior teams. That's the price of being successful. There young lads they should love having matches every few days to keep them rolling into next year for senior etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on November 29, 2018, 04:17:59 PM
With no Creggan tournament in ulster this year all this seems pointless seeding teams A and B.
Derry championship A section was 4 games and Magherafelt won. It's that simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 29, 2018, 05:00:27 PM
What happened to this years Creggan u21 tournament, is it just a case of no room in the schedule for it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on November 29, 2018, 06:41:23 PM
Some county's play u20 club instead of u21 as its gong to u20 in next year or 2 so last year was end of it Plus Derry u21 is 13 a side not 15 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2018, 07:17:16 PM
Don't think they r even bothering with refs for the b championship as MR2 deems it a waste of time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 07:28:34 PM
It's a waste in that the games should have been a knockout competition, and we wouldn't have the amount of gurning on here, mainly from yourself  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2018, 08:21:50 PM
All you city boys need to dry your eyes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
Why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist over a 'b' competition ?

A 21 year old is only concerned with winning the top level grade of their club (be that Junior, Intermediate or senior), everything else won't be remembered..

Your first statement smacks completely of snobbery and condescension. To a St Galls team it might only be a B. To others and genuine B teams it is important to those players.

For many of these 20 year olds it could well be their last go at playing with team mates or even playing at all such is the culture of post 21 year old GAA. The B championship having more games could well persuade some yougg lads to stick at it especially if they got a run or even a bit of success.

St Enda's being in it will have knocked the stuffing out of most of not all teams and if they had anything about them they'd withdraw in protest. As DR already pointed out, they got on and get on with their various competitions. St Enda's wanted the world to stop for them and have thrown the rattle out of the pram. County made the right decision to punish them and then made the wrong decision in allowing them to enter the B.

Snobbery has nothing to do with it, but sure carry on with your attacks at St Endas.. showing yourself up big time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Snobbery has everything to do with it. Otherwise why would you write 'why are people getting their knickers in a twist over a B competition'?

Maybe you don't like that. What else is it if not snobbery or condescension.

At under 21 level (in my view is senior level) b competition is pointless.. now if they doesn't sit well with you I'm sorry. Get them all in one competition and play it off. If you think I'm a snob then fine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on November 29, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
If your fit to field an u21 team bung them all in 1 championship and rifle the games out! All on the day and forget the group bulls**t
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 11:07:14 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on November 29, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
If your fit to field an u21 team bung them all in 1 championship and rifle the games out! All on the day and forget the group bulls**t

Ah but what about the snowflakes?  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 11:28:39 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 11:26:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 11:07:14 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on November 29, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
If your fit to field an u21 team bung them all in 1 championship and rifle the games out! All on the day and forget the group bulls**t

Ah but what about the snowflakes?  :o

Zzzzz

Surprised you didn't manage to give off about Fitzy and paddy in a post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 11:38:40 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 11:35:56 PM
Why would that be relevant to your snobbery or your snowflake comment?

You've managed to put it in most of your recent posts so...

this is my view on it you're entitled to yours
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2018, 11:54:49 PM
Pick me pick me! notice me love me!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Snobbery has everything to do with it. Otherwise why would you write 'why are people getting their knickers in a twist over a B competition'?

Maybe you don't like that. What else is it if not snobbery or condescension.

At under 21 level (in my view is senior level) b competition is pointless.. now if they doesn't sit well with you I'm sorry. Get them all in one competition and play it off. If you think I'm a snob then fine
We have B competitions at every other level, why wouldn't we at U21? In fact, at senior, we have ABC and D competitions.


At senor level we have junior intermediate and senior and that's fine.. the b competition is relativity new, certainty wasn't about in my day, think my sons team won a b hurling competition at casement many moons ago and that would have been one of the early ones..

I'm just not a fan of it, Rossa were in one this year, I did the line at it at Lamhs, I thought the standards of both teams were good enough for them to be in the a championship tbh..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 30, 2018, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Snobbery has everything to do with it. Otherwise why would you write 'why are people getting their knickers in a twist over a B competition'?

Maybe you don't like that. What else is it if not snobbery or condescension.

At under 21 level (in my view is senior level) b competition is pointless.. now if they doesn't sit well with you I'm sorry. Get them all in one competition and play it off. If you think I'm a snob then fine
We have B competitions at every other level, why wouldn't we at U21? In fact, at senior, we have ABC and D competitions.


At senor level we have junior intermediate and senior and that's fine.. the b competition is relativity new, certainty wasn't about in my day, think my sons team won a b hurling competition at casement many moons ago and that would have been one of the early ones..

I'm just not a fan of it, Rossa were in one this year, I did the line at it at Lamhs, I thought the standards of both teams were good enough for them to be in the a championship tbh..

agreed, dont see the draw in it, if you're going to have a B comp for u21 run it like the Junior b in the hurling, weaker teams play it before the actual championship, straight knock out and the winner goes into the championship proper, would be better than the grading games etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 30, 2018, 10:44:20 AM
i dont understand it either myself.

we were in the B last year and got to the county final. i was part of the management and loved the whole run to it. we have never won an U21 football title of any kind so had we won it we would of celebrated like it was an all ireland! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 30, 2018, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Snobbery has everything to do with it. Otherwise why would you write 'why are people getting their knickers in a twist over a B competition'?

Maybe you don't like that. What else is it if not snobbery or condescension.

At under 21 level (in my view is senior level) b competition is pointless.. now if they doesn't sit well with you I'm sorry. Get them all in one competition and play it off. If you think I'm a snob then fine
We have B competitions at every other level, why wouldn't we at U21? In fact, at senior, we have ABC and D competitions.


At senor level we have junior intermediate and senior and that's fine.. the b competition is relativity new, certainty wasn't about in my day, think my sons team won a b hurling competition at casement many moons ago and that would have been one of the early ones..

I'm just not a fan of it, Rossa were in one this year, I did the line at it at Lamhs, I thought the standards of both teams were good enough for them to be in the a championship tbh..

agreed, dont see the draw in it, if you're going to have a B comp for u21 run it like the Junior b in the hurling, weaker teams play it before the actual championship, straight knock out and the winner goes into the championship proper, would be better than the grading games etc.
What's the draw in B competitions at U12, U14, U16 and minor? What's the draw in intermediate and junior championships?
To give competitive championship games to teams playing at a lower standard.
The exact same principle applies to U21.
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't remember anyone complaining about B competitions in any other grade. Why is U21 different?

I personally don't see it.. if you're happy with it that's great. I'm not complaining either. Ones complaining about st endas being dropped into it for failure to field.

Like I've said before straight knock out competitions at senior level at juvenile level if you want B competition then great, but got me under 21 is a senior competition that like the hurling should be played as a knockout on level competition..

DR in all honesty with the success you'd had at minor football level you shouldn't have been in the b competition  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 30, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 30, 2018, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Snobbery has everything to do with it. Otherwise why would you write 'why are people getting their knickers in a twist over a B competition'?

Maybe you don't like that. What else is it if not snobbery or condescension.

At under 21 level (in my view is senior level) b competition is pointless.. now if they doesn't sit well with you I'm sorry. Get them all in one competition and play it off. If you think I'm a snob then fine
We have B competitions at every other level, why wouldn't we at U21? In fact, at senior, we have ABC and D competitions.


At senor level we have junior intermediate and senior and that's fine.. the b competition is relativity new, certainty wasn't about in my day, think my sons team won a b hurling competition at casement many moons ago and that would have been one of the early ones..

I'm just not a fan of it, Rossa were in one this year, I did the line at it at Lamhs, I thought the standards of both teams were good enough for them to be in the a championship tbh..

agreed, dont see the draw in it, if you're going to have a B comp for u21 run it like the Junior b in the hurling, weaker teams play it before the actual championship, straight knock out and the winner goes into the championship proper, would be better than the grading games etc.
What's the draw in B competitions at U12, U14, U16 and minor? What's the draw in intermediate and junior championships?
To give competitive championship games to teams playing at a lower standard.
The exact same principle applies to U21.
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't remember anyone complaining about B competitions in any other grade. Why is U21 different?

the main difference i see is that at all those other age groups there are leagues etc, u21 is different in that sense, if you ran a b championship like the junior B with the winner taking up a place in the A championship i dont think it would be a bad thing, clubs are getting games against teams of a similar standard and the carrot is a crack at an A team at the end, given there is no ulster for u21 b i dont see why it would be a problem. DR, if you had won an u21 in the kind of format i mentioned would it have diminished it, i dont think it would, would still be an achievement and set you up for a game in the A with a medal already in the pocket. i think a few years ago didnt Glenravel win junior b and maybe actually win the Junior or possibly got to a final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 30, 2018, 11:43:06 AM
All the recent posts have valid points for further discussion. But does anyone know if St Endas are gonna play in B c/ship next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 30, 2018, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 30, 2018, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 30, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: farset on November 29, 2018, 10:28:18 PM
Snobbery has everything to do with it. Otherwise why would you write 'why are people getting their knickers in a twist over a B competition'?

Maybe you don't like that. What else is it if not snobbery or condescension.

At under 21 level (in my view is senior level) b competition is pointless.. now if they doesn't sit well with you I'm sorry. Get them all in one competition and play it off. If you think I'm a snob then fine
We have B competitions at every other level, why wouldn't we at U21? In fact, at senior, we have ABC and D competitions.


At senor level we have junior intermediate and senior and that's fine.. the b competition is relativity new, certainty wasn't about in my day, think my sons team won a b hurling competition at casement many moons ago and that would have been one of the early ones..

I'm just not a fan of it, Rossa were in one this year, I did the line at it at Lamhs, I thought the standards of both teams were good enough for them to be in the a championship tbh..

agreed, dont see the draw in it, if you're going to have a B comp for u21 run it like the Junior b in the hurling, weaker teams play it before the actual championship, straight knock out and the winner goes into the championship proper, would be better than the grading games etc.
What's the draw in B competitions at U12, U14, U16 and minor? What's the draw in intermediate and junior championships?
To give competitive championship games to teams playing at a lower standard.
The exact same principle applies to U21.
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't remember anyone complaining about B competitions in any other grade. Why is U21 different?

I personally don't see it.. if you're happy with it that's great. I'm not complaining either. Ones complaining about st endas being dropped into it for failure to field.

Like I've said before straight knock out competitions at senior level at juvenile level if you want B competition then great, but got me under 21 is a senior competition that like the hurling should be played as a knockout on level competition..

DR in all honesty with the success you'd had at minor football level you shouldn't have been in the b competition  ;)

i agree totally with you there. we shouldnt of been but it mattered not as we got chinned in the final by Aldergrove  :o ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 05:36:14 PM
Dunloy are as good a football team at that level I've seen for a right few years, fast direct clinical athletic and look like they are really enjoying it.. Beat us handy today and good luck to them.

Endas doing well also! Hopefully they win tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2018, 06:00:44 PM
Dunloy impressive once again. With St Endas the B competition, Dunloy now carry the favourites tag. Plenty of football to play yet, Rossa haven't gone away, St Brigids unexposed so far but quietly confident and the winners of us and Creggan tomorrow will give this competition a lash too.

Go on St Endas be good to see an Antrim team progress to the semi final for the first time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 06:10:17 PM
Winning well now.. Fair play lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 05:45:03 PM
They are up by 3 at half time.
Good on them. Something you'd expect from a senior team.

Hammered a team that were winning the Cavan senior championship five years ago! Some set up at St endas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2018, 06:40:10 PM
Well done St Endas. This can provide proper impetus to the continuing  development of Gaa in the hugely populated area that is North Belfast. For Antrim to prosper we need all areas pulling out the stops, and quite frankly North Belfast has not fulfilled it's potential for too long.

As the article in today's Irish News points out, St Endas Gac was the main hub of Irish culture in the area, and as a result suffered more than their share of tragedy during the troubles. For that reason alone, and in memory of those who suffered most directly, today's victory is a firm reminder that the Gaels of this area are beginning to prosper once again.

Sincere congratulations to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 06:44:45 PM
The move to the south west paying off for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 06:44:45 PM
The move to the south west paying off for them.

So what paid off for us winning all Ireland's then?  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:58:16 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 06:55:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 06:44:45 PM
The move to the south west paying off for them.

So what paid off for us winning all Ireland's then?  :)

It's not always about St Galls.

I'm taking the piss!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 01, 2018, 07:20:15 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 05:45:03 PM
They are up by 3 at half time.
Good on them. Something you'd expect from a senior team.

Hammered a team that were winning the Cavan senior championship five years ago! Some set up at St endas

Well then clearly that makes more the point that they were in the wrong championship for their ability, wee man.

For the St Enda's club and kids it's brilliant and I'm sure they'll go from strength to strength and as BS rightly pointed out, they've been on the receiving end of sectarianism in its most disgusting form BUT that doesn't take away the fact that a mid table Antrim Division 1 team won an Ulster Intermediate championship. You'd need to ask questions if they didn't win it.

In the context that Antrim are playing Division 4 of NFL and Cavan are in Div 2 . I think it's a fairly equitable match up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 06:44:45 PM
The move to the south west paying off for them.

So what paid off for us winning all Ireland's then?  :)

The imports.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2018, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 07:23:36 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 01, 2018, 07:20:15 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2018, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 05:45:03 PM
They are up by 3 at half time.
Good on them. Something you'd expect from a senior team.

Hammered a team that were winning the Cavan senior championship five years ago! Some set up at St endas

Well then clearly that makes more the point that they were in the wrong championship for their ability, wee man.

For the St Enda's club and kids it's brilliant and I'm sure they'll go from strength to strength and as BS rightly pointed out, they've been on the receiving end of sectarianism in its most disgusting form BUT that doesn't take away the fact that a mid table Antrim Division 1 team won an Ulster Intermediate championship. You'd need to ask questions if they didn't win it.

In the context that Antrim are playing Division 4 of NFL and Cavan are in Div 2 . I think it's a fairly equitable match up.

So by that calculation, where does that put St Galls' win?

In all seriousness though, that's pure balls.

Take a walk pal and chill out. An Antrim team has just won an Ulster title. Lets celebrate and congratulate them. After everything they've been through they deserve it.

Don't begrudge them it and the impact it'll have on the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2018, 07:36:53 PM
Exactly. We are probably number 9 in ulster in the football. This is a great achievement and ultimately a big building block for the st endas club. Fair play to them.

Look at what kerry are doing if you want to see unfair. Division one clubs in junior.

U21 championship looks like it could be quite interesting. Rossa perhaps surprising winners at randalstown. They have a few good players mind. That fella mcenhill looks a great wee player. Looks like no clear favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2018, 01:37:02 AM
Again superb win, dominated from start to finish, now they have a couple weeks to get back to training and preparing for a semi final. One match from Croke Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on December 02, 2018, 05:05:00 AM
Quote from: farset on December 01, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
Please don't try to equate their genuine and horrific loss to my and others' criticism that they have only won a championship that they shouldnt be in. I've lost two members of my family to loyalists. I know what it's like so don't equate what I'm saying to what you're accusing me of.

The impact for the club will be amazing for them and they will make hay. Of that I have no doubt.

BUT its my opinion that its a hallow victory and one that they should always have won anyway and they'll know that in their heart of hearts.

Anyway I'm away to take a walk and chill.
what a sick little mind space you exist in Farset. There is nothing about our club that trades on sympathy. We are lucky enough to have the bones of a young team who won feile, Paul mcgirr, mmmm is it just me or might there be trend appearing? Oh wait as a club you've never won didly at senior nor have you shown any potential as a contender at intermediate. But hey this year we get our shit together boo fcking boo. Keep er lit with that persecution complex, or perhaps divert your energies in a more positive direction. Btw I'm semi lit so this should not be construed as a rational debate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 02, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
I came in here to congratulate St endas on a fantastic win and Christ the light....what the hell is going on😂. Great win for them and I would know a lot of these young lads. Under different circumstances my eldest lad could have been the playing with them as he was a belated part of that minor squad with Niall McKeown, Joe Maskey and Eoin Nagle so I saw them a few times. Great win and anyone trying to take away from it need to look at themselves. Also I recall that the team they beat in the final were an absolute monster Cavan club for years and we played them at least twice in Ulster senior championship.

Also a wee touch of Cross in the set up as the PRO is an old neighbour of mine at home and a member of the Donaldson family who are now heavily invested in our club as players and coaches. Well done to James and big congratulations to St Endas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 02, 2018, 08:52:18 AM
Great result for st Enda's, as BC said, a massive Cavan club who are used to playing senior Ulster, st Enda's will enjoy it and I'm sure fitzy will have them back focused for a good rattle at the AI. Absouluty no reason why not! As last man said, this team is backbones by lads who won an A feile, Paul McGirr etc, it shows that out the work in underage and it can bring success at senior level!hoping they  Go on and win the whole thing now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2018, 10:02:21 AM
No reason not to go on and win it now, Antrim teams are expected to win Ulster in hurling, not always the case lately but traditionally they do, in football it's an achievement to win one game or as Dunloy and Moneyglass reach a final, to win it they are now on equal status with the other winners, they'll face the Connaught champions I think..

St endas have the right age structure within the team, plenty of fitness and they never panic, the Cavan team drew level straight after the break but St endas pulled away, they had a ball hit the crossbar and St Endas went straight up the other end and Maskey buried it.

I'll certainly be backing them in the next match. Three teams to support in the club series,  its just a pity Cushendun can't be there also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: skeog on December 02, 2018, 10:06:31 AM
Brilliant performance from a club who have suffered over the years.Enjoy the moment Antrim on the rise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 02, 2018, 03:39:36 PM
I might be wrong. But I think 2 years ago the All-Ireland IFC winners were a team from Kerry who won division 1 (actually beating the senior championship winners in the league final).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 02, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
Also well done to Endas.  They beat a dogged team who are a traditional div 1 Cavan team. We failed in extra time and will see it as a case of "what could have been".

However surely it's time Antrim aligned leagues with a Championships (with winners playing grade above the following year)? It would do away with any of the criticism?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2018, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: outinfront on December 02, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
Also well done to Endas.  They beat a dogged team who are a traditional div 1 Cavan team. We failed in extra time and will see it as a case of "what could have been".

However surely it's time Antrim aligned leagues with a Championships (with winners playing grade above the following year)? It would do away with any of the criticism?

A hundred percent and this needs to be done throughout the country. Once it is uniformed then there won't be complaints. Kerry have a farce of a championship tbf..

Ballycastle were a div 2 team and played senior, and have done before when in div 2 .. someone had mentioned Rossa and the johnnies playing intermediate, they were Div 2 teams at the time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2018, 05:03:29 PM
Creggan beat Casements by two points to progress. A big strong team with quality in the right places.

That's St Brigids, Rossa, Creggan and Dunloy into the last four. All to play for and turning into a good competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 02, 2018, 09:41:34 PM
St Endas trying to slip back into A championship on appeal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2018, 08:22:35 AM
was told last night that we play Rossa in the semi finals? not sure how true that is at this stage. anyone else heard the draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2018, 08:22:35 AM
was told last night that we play Rossa in the semi finals? not sure how true that is at this stage. anyone else heard the draw


Cuchullian's v O D Ross's

and

Kickham's Creggan v St Brigid's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2018, 08:22:35 AM
was told last night that we play Rossa in the semi finals? not sure how true that is at this stage. anyone else heard the draw


Cuchullian's v O D Ross's

and

Kickham's Creggan v St Brigid's

When are these games being played? this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2018, 09:25:30 AM
we have the ulster minor against Bellaghy this weekend. not sure of any dates for the U21 football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2018, 09:25:30 AM
we have the ulster minor against Bellaghy this weekend. not sure of any dates for the U21 football

Id say with that team you could do very well, especially on that type of surface at Woodlands, it suits the speed of your players. the goals you scored came from direct football, very refreshing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2018, 09:39:55 AM
yeah to be fair it was a very good game between the teams. whats refreshing to see is so many teams wanting to play open football and not sit back defending.

all this talk of football being dead and dying yet all ive seen is some great games and fantastic scores
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2018, 09:39:55 AM
yeah to be fair it was a very good game between the teams. whats refreshing to see is so many teams wanting to play open football and not sit back defending.

all this talk of football being dead and dying yet all ive seen is some great games and fantastic scores

The problem of senior teams now is the fear of defeat, possession is king, be that 15 men behind the ball or 2 extra defenders.. very rare to seen two teams actually go at it, when they do, it really makes for an entertaining game, that will get knocked out of them come senior though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2018, 10:05:39 AM
I'm enjoying it too tbh. Good to see emerging talent and there are plenty of quality players out there at this level. I hope the respective county managements at minor under 21 and senior are all keeping a close eye out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen

In saying that I noticed St Enda's hitting long range points during their campaign as teams were defending in high numbers against them, whether they'd be doing that against the better teams I'm not sure..

Every club training session was always about kicking scores, shooting for points.. now its about possession, it takes a good manager to work a system and trust it to beat the blanket defence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen

Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:18:22 PM
Dunloy v Rossa on Wed 12th Dec....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen

Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen

In saying that I noticed St Enda's hitting long range points during their campaign as teams were defending in high numbers against them, whether they'd be doing that against the better teams I'm not sure..

Every club training session was always about kicking scores, shooting for points.. now its about possession, it takes a good manager to work a system and trust it to beat the blanket defence

It's as simple as following the managers game plan to the death or your off, every young minor talent wants to break onto the senior team and show what he can do (again Cian McConville the year with cross) but if you come on and don't do as the manager instructs it's a crime. I know lads in my own who can kick her 55 yards over the black spot or kick a pass you'd swear he had a sat nav on it to the Mans chest but there made abide by the management teams , play the ball through the hands and work it into scoreable positions. Load of balls in my eyes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen

Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
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Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?

Are you blind? Read what I said? Yes the tackle was high and clothesline like but the player was on the way down as he came in to tackle? It's another thing creeping into the game is boys ducking or going down At the smallest hint of a tackle and buying easy frees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 03, 2018, 02:34:53 PM
It was the follow up punch with his right  that did for him
Linesman onto ref  right away .Poor tackle in first place  then led to his dismissal . It was hard but fair

What did Magee do to get straight red .   Costly red !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
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Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?

Are you blind? Read what I said? Yes the tackle was high and clothesline like but the player was on the way down as he came in to tackle? It's another thing creeping into the game is boys ducking or going down At the smallest hint of a tackle and buying easy frees.

Jeez Derryman u are really a messenger of doom......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:18:22 PM
Dunloy v Rossa on Wed 12th Dec....

3:30pm throw in time.  :o

tell me thats a typo on the county web site  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 03, 2018, 02:34:53 PM
It was the follow up punch with his right  that did for him
Linesman onto ref  right away .Poor tackle in first place  then led to his dismissal . It was hard but fair

What did Magee do to get straight red .   Costly red !

If so then I stand corrected! I was in between watching and eating a feed! Did see Ref liazing with the linesman over it for a while to be honest. If he struck then fair.
Yes McGee very soft but he was on a yellow I think aswell but recieved straight red.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
[/quote
Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?

Are you blind? Read what I said? Yes the tackle was high and clothesline like but the player was on the way down as he came in to tackle? It's another thing creeping into the game is boys ducking or going down At the smallest hint of a tackle and buying easy frees.

Jeez Derryman u are really a messenger of doom......

Maybe cause I talk some sense country bumpkin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 02:50:08 PM
The first tackle was reckless but a yellow, when he dug him in the bake with the right hand then it was a red!  Was handy for him that he ducked down just enough to take one on the cheek!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
[/quote
Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?

Are you blind? Read what I said? Yes the tackle was high and clothesline like but the player was on the way down as he came in to tackle? It's another thing creeping into the game is boys ducking or going down At the smallest hint of a tackle and buying easy frees.

Jeez Derryman u are really a messenger of doom......

Maybe cause I talk some sense country bumpkin?

Then u are an imposter......not a Ferryman......lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
[/quote
Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?

Are you blind? Read what I said? Yes the tackle was high and clothesline like but the player was on the way down as he came in to tackle? It's another thing creeping into the game is boys ducking or going down At the smallest hint of a tackle and buying easy frees.

Jeez Derryman u are really a messenger of doom......

Maybe cause I talk some sense country bumpkin?

Then u are an imposter......not a Ferryman......lol

It's Derryman* not ferryman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Come senior the fast flowing football that these u21 teams are showing will be worth nothing , when it comes to Senior football you play how your instructed and to a game plan , there no solo runs 50 yards are pinging points from the 50! Itl be worked into a better position and a shot from the 21! No team wants to shoot at senior level no more. Only player doing it this year was Rian O'Neill from Crossmaglen
[/quote
Dunno if you watched Gall's v Cargin in SFC semi, but free flowing football with a lotta long range scores in abundance between arguably still the best two teams in the county.

And if you went to the final you'll have seen the score line of 5-4 and neither team wanting to shoot? Bar Tomas McCann wonder shot from the sideline mid second half. The games going to the dogs.
The ulster final was terrible yday, beggan could have won it 2/3 times for them and choked. And felt the Scotstown red card decision was harsh.

What?

Are you blind? Read what I said? Yes the tackle was high and clothesline like but the player was on the way down as he came in to tackle? It's another thing creeping into the game is boys ducking or going down At the smallest hint of a tackle and buying easy frees.

Jeez Derryman u are really a messenger of doom......

Maybe cause I talk some sense country bumpkin?

Then u are an imposter......not a Ferryman......lol

It's Derryman* not ferryman

But how do you get over the river then...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 03, 2018, 06:44:06 PM
Saddo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on December 03, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Ciaran McCavanagh new chairman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 03, 2018, 09:17:43 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on December 03, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Ciaran McCavanagh new chairman.
what was the vote result?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on December 03, 2018, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 03, 2018, 09:17:43 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on December 03, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Ciaran McCavanagh new chairman.
what was the vote result?
74; 41; 18. OE was 2nd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 03, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
Tks
Any motions passed ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on December 03, 2018, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 03, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
Tks
Any motions passed ?
St.Pauls withdrew theirs, all I've heard so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ahoy hoy on December 03, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Any truth that st endas celebrated their victory with a spot of afternoon tea in the merchant?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on December 04, 2018, 06:22:56 AM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 03, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Any truth that st endas celebrated their victory with a spot of afternoon tea in the merchant?
Any truth that you have anything important or interesting to report??🙄🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2018, 07:59:20 AM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 03, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Any truth that st endas celebrated their victory with a spot of afternoon tea in the merchant?

Who gives a f**k how they celebrated!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ahoy hoy on December 04, 2018, 08:09:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on December 04, 2018, 06:22:56 AM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 03, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Any truth that st endas celebrated their victory with a spot of afternoon tea in the merchant?
Any truth that you have anything important or interesting to report??🙄🙄

1st club in Ireland to drink prosecco out of a trophy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2018, 10:25:41 AM
Congrats St.Enda's!  Great win!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 04, 2018, 11:17:37 AM
What way do you folks think the Bellaghy v Dunloy Minor game will turn out this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on December 04, 2018, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 04, 2018, 08:09:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on December 04, 2018, 06:22:56 AM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 03, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Any truth that st endas celebrated their victory with a spot of afternoon tea in the merchant?
Any truth that you have anything important or interesting to report??🙄🙄

1st club in Ireland to drink prosecco out of a trophy
Thought for the day lad.....Should I waste time slating men who have achieved more than me or should I perhaps look to myself and use their example to achieve my own personal goals!
Hope the Prosecco continues to flow at Hightown btw! 🥂🍾
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 04, 2018, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 04, 2018, 11:17:37 AM
What way do you folks think the Bellaghy v Dunloy Minor game will turn out this weekend?

Bellaghy will be the favs for the game and rightly so. they have been producing serious teams this past year and should really of had 2 in a row this year.

their U16's should of won derry this year to be fair so they do have a good strong line of good footballers coming through.

We will give them a good game of that ive no doubt. Love to see us upset the odds and get a win in this competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on December 04, 2018, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2018, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 04, 2018, 11:17:37 AM
What way do you folks think the Bellaghy v Dunloy Minor game will turn out this weekend?

Bellaghy will be the favs for the game and rightly so. they have been producing serious teams this past year and should really of had 2 in a row this year.

their U16's should of won derry this year to be fair so they do have a good strong line of good footballers coming through.

We will give them a good game of that ive no doubt. Love to see us upset the odds and get a win in this competition.

Watched dunloy v st galls, very impressive team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 04, 2018, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2018, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 04, 2018, 11:17:37 AM
What way do you folks think the Bellaghy v Dunloy Minor game will turn out this weekend?

Bellaghy will be the favs for the game and rightly so. they have been producing serious teams this past year and should really of had 2 in a row this year.

their U16's should of won derry this year to be fair so they do have a good strong line of good footballers coming through.

We will give them a good game of that ive no doubt. Love to see us upset the odds and get a win in this competition.

Be a good tight game , they have few good marquee forwards I think will be too much for your back line over 60 mins and a few good fast backs who like to attack although you's have a good forward or 2 and strong in midfield.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 05, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
Yeah they are an impressive side and have had plenty of their lads in the Derry squads this past few years. Backed by the U16's who are also very strong they are a tough team and one that could go the distance.

the most of our lads all play hurling as well and have probably played more games compared to Bellaghy since they won Derry which could give us a slight edge there in terms of match sharpness but look everythings a bonus at this stage to us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2018, 11:26:49 AM
Derry underage very strong these days so you'd have to make them favourites. I went to ballinascreen against Rossa last year and there was quite a bit of a gap between the teams. Hopefully won't be the same but the Derry team would always be the favourites in these games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 05, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 05, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
Yeah they are an impressive side and have had plenty of their lads in the Derry squads this past few years. Backed by the U16's who are also very strong they are a tough team and one that could go the distance.

the most of our lads all play hurling as well and have probably played more games compared to Bellaghy since they won Derry which could give us a slight edge there in terms of match sharpness but look everythings a bonus at this stage to us.

Won't have said match fitness is going to be a difference as hurling and football are 2 different games.. dungiven gave yous a schooling in ulster minor hurling final and the man That did the damage can only hurl off 1 side so that theory I don't believe although I believe your minors are well represented in your u21 set up.. will be tight but can see them taking it in the end up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 02:47:55 PM
Does anyone know if the u21 B game is on in Belfast tonight as it has been postponed previously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 05, 2018, 03:38:17 PM
Big Ball Wee Ball

'Does anyone know if the u21 B game is on in Belfast tonight as it has been postponed previously'

It had previously being scheduled for Tuesday 4th when the original fixture came out. It has been moved one day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2018, 05:29:25 PM
Colaiste Feirste is a great location to watch a match and you would think both those clubs would have some good players - think I'll take a trip to that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on December 05, 2018, 07:15:03 PM
Lads, don't bother heading to NÉ v LD match tonight. We won't be there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 07:21:38 PM
Thanks, saves a trip. BTW did something happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2018, 07:29:42 PM
County not updating website probably! don't think NE fancied B or they haven't sobered up ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on December 05, 2018, 08:02:16 PM
As stated last week we never had any intention of playing in the B championship. It wouldn't have been fair to legitimate B teams and if CCC didn't want us in the A championship we certainly werent going to risk injuries for an All-ireland semi-final in the B championship which wouldn't have meant anything to us.Thats a pity as it would have been a cracking last 4 with us, Dunloy, Creggan and Naomh Brígid.  We won't know who the best U-21 team was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2018, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: Footblock on December 05, 2018, 08:02:16 PM
As stated last week we never had any intention of playing in the B championship. It wouldn't have been fair to legitimate B teams and if CCC didn't want us in the A championship we certainly werent going to risk injuries for an All-ireland semi-final in the B championship which wouldn't have meant anything to us.Thats a pity as it would have been a cracking last 4 with us, Dunloy, Creggan and Naomh Brígid.  We won't know who the best U-21 team was.

Well we do, it will be the winners from Rossa, Dunloy, Creggan and St Brids...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2018, 08:56:24 PM
A LD mate tells me NE didn't say they weren't turning up until late this afternoon and NE did the same thing the last time they were due to play...out of order
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
I'm surprised NE pulled out of the u21 B. After all they played in B (intermediate) Championship against "legitimate" B standard teams while playing Div 1. Pure arrogance.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on December 05, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
I'm surprised NE pulled out of the u21 B. After all they played in B (intermediate) Championship against "legitimate" B standard teams while playing Div 1. Pure arrogance.

Nail on the head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on December 05, 2018, 10:39:19 PM
Says on website creggan at home to brids. Thats 100%?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: The gooch on December 05, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
I'm surprised NE pulled out of the u21 B. After all they played in B (intermediate) Championship against "legitimate" B standard teams while playing Div 1. Pure arrogance.

Nail on the head

Intermediate is not a 'b' championship I'm afraid. Junior is not a 'c' championship either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 05, 2018, 11:37:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: The gooch on December 05, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
I'm surprised NE pulled out of the u21 B. After all they played in B (intermediate) Championship against "legitimate" B standard teams while playing Div 1. Pure arrogance.

Nail on the head

Intermediate is not a 'b' championship I'm afraid. Junior is not a 'c' championship either

I think you'll find it is! If you can play senior league you can play senior championship! An intermediate is a B championship me man! And the fact your arguing the fact makes it even worse. It looks bad playing senior league and dropping to a lower championship! Yes Banagher were the best intermediate team in Derry but they played in intermediate league and championship to regain senior status for 2019.

A) Senior
B) Intermediate
C) Junior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 05, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Won't have said match fitness is going to be a difference as hurling and football are 2 different games.. ...

... Bollocks

Ps. Footblock, you're a bollocks or only talk ballocks ...

Pss st Enda's, more bollocks - senior, intermediate and u21
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on December 06, 2018, 04:53:40 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 05, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Won't have said match fitness is going to be a difference as hurling and football are 2 different games.. ...

... Bollocks

Ps. Footblock, you're a bollocks or only talk ballocks ...

Pss st Enda's, more bollocks - senior, intermediate and u21

Might I refer you to my earlier comment. Don't worry you can't keep this up, the angst will pass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2018, 06:26:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: The gooch on December 05, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
I'm surprised NE pulled out of the u21 B. After all they played in B (intermediate) Championship against "legitimate" B standard teams while playing Div 1. Pure arrogance.

Nail on the head

Intermediate is not a 'b' championship I'm afraid. Junior is not a 'c' championship either
?
You're gonna have to explain that one to me.

The teams that play in those championships are the clubs senior teams, they are not the clubs b team or c team. You can have a junior 'b' competition but they must win the junior 'b' competition to play in the junior competition proper...

All saints this year won Junior 'b'  and played in a all Ireland 'championship' which I think is a great idea, but I'm not hung up on a under21 championship unless the competition was played first and the winners then entered the real championship.


If you've played before then you'll know, you play and want to get on your senior team, regardless of the championship they are in.. you don't strive to get on the b team but this may be the level you're at (not you personally) and that's fine.

I get senior is 'a' and intermediate is 'b' and so on but I wouldn't be little Rossa's All Ireland win in Ctoke Park, or Creggan's Junior All Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 06, 2018, 08:47:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 05, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 05, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
Yeah they are an impressive side and have had plenty of their lads in the Derry squads this past few years. Backed by the U16's who are also very strong they are a tough team and one that could go the distance.

the most of our lads all play hurling as well and have probably played more games compared to Bellaghy since they won Derry which could give us a slight edge there in terms of match sharpness but look everythings a bonus at this stage to us.

Won't have said match fitness is going to be a difference as hurling and football are 2 different games.. dungiven gave yous a schooling in ulster minor hurling final and the man That did the damage can only hurl off 1 side so that theory I don't believe although I believe your minors are well represented in your u21 set up.. will be tight but can see them taking it in the end up

To be fair bellaghy have done very little in terms of games since the county final. they have been training and in the gym whereas our lads have been playing hurling and U21 football.

all the pitch sessions and gym session cant replicate 60mins of competitive match time.

but Bellaghy are the overwhelming favourites, we have nothing to lose on Sunday as everything's a bonus at this stage of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: farset on December 06, 2018, 08:33:17 AM
Nobody belittling anyone's All Ireland wins.

But the intermediate is a B championship for those teams not strong enough to play A and likewise with Junior and even Junior B.

You don't have to have a second team to admit you are playing B.

Take Money glass for example. Not strong enough to play Senior so they played at the secondary/B level in the Intermediate. Who beat them?

Yes the team that won it and should have been playing in the A. I'm glad more people can see it for what it is.

In all my days it's never been known as, a b or c competitions, you play for your senior club team and you are a senior player, what grade they play in is the level they are at, junior intermediate or senior championship. If you want to see it as so then fine, I'll not argue with you or HS on it, it's my view on those competitions just.

You can harp on about St Endas all year but you need to submit a motion through your club and insist that clubs play the level of the league they are in, no one will think that's s bad idea, if a county has four leagues it's simple. Div4 Junior b winners play junior in junior proper and that's your div 3 sorted. All division 2 teams play intermediate,  so the likes of Ballycastle last year should have played (and won) intermediate, and only division one teams play senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on December 06, 2018, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: farset on December 06, 2018, 08:33:17 AM
Nobody belittling anyone's All Ireland wins.

But the intermediate is a B championship for those teams not strong enough to play A and likewise with Junior and even Junior B.

You don't have to have a second team to admit you are playing B.

Take Money glass for example. Not strong enough to play Senior so they played at the secondary/B level in the Intermediate. Who beat them?

Yes the team that won it and should have been playing in the A. I'm glad more people can see it for what it is.

In all my days it's never been known as, a b or c competitions, you play for your senior club team and you are a senior player, what grade they play in is the level they are at, junior intermediate or senior championship. If you want to see it as so then fine, I'll not argue with you or HS on it, it's my view on those competitions just.

You can harp on about St Endas all year but you need to submit a motion through your club and insist that clubs play the level of the league they are in, no one will think that's s bad idea, if a county has four leagues it's simple. Div4 Junior b winners play junior in junior proper and that's your div 3 sorted. All division 2 teams play intermediate,  so the likes of Ballycastle last year should have played (and won) intermediate, and only division one teams play senior

we have 3 football leagues, surely its a straight forward scenario in terms of what cship teams should be playing in. fair play to st endas for their success but surely at the start of the year they had a fair idea they would be overwhelming favourties for intermediate. worked out well for them but they had an unfair advantage imo. after all they were playing a superior standard of teams all year in div 1 and managed a fantastic win against cargin on the way.

change it to make leagues and chsip reflect each other, after all that's the standard at which teams are competing at all year, why drop down a level for cship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
so, I think there is only one reason NE won't play Antrim intermediate c/s next year, FF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 06, 2018, 10:06:10 AM
Quote from: Footblock on December 05, 2018, 08:02:16 PM
As stated last week we never had any intention of playing in the B championship. It wouldn't have been fair to legitimate B teams and if CCC didn't want us in the A championship we certainly werent going to risk injuries for an All-ireland semi-final in the B championship which wouldn't have meant anything to us.Thats a pity as it would have been a cracking last 4 with us, Dunloy, Creggan and Naomh Brígid.  We won't know who the best U-21 team was.

ive seen some arrogance in my time but this is up there with the worst.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 06, 2018, 10:15:48 AM
yes st endas have a lot of players playing in there 'senior team' and would claim this is the reason they would be favourites for the u21s - however they are an A team playing B football at senior level :-X
IMO they have had chances in the past to win the intermediate championship when they were playing in division 2 and bottled it so they have an unfair advantage this year by playing in a higher league at a higher standard - they have abused the system and the word karma comes to mind as they are unable to compete in the u21 championship - do them no harm pure arrogance that statement who do you think you are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...

I agree with ITG.. One tube doesn't represent the views of the whole club, there are other people on this forum who spout and ganch (myself included) and I'm sure the club doesn't agree with them. The arrogance from the poster is unreal and verging on a wind up surely.

St Endas can go back to being a city club again after this  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
so, I think there is only one reason NE won't play Antrim intermediate c/s next year, FF.

You can play intermediate again I think, just not in Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 06, 2018, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...

agreed, my post was directed at the poster and not the club.

im like everyone else who was very happy to see them win at the weekend. would love to see them go all the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 06, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
so, I think there is only one reason NE won't play Antrim intermediate c/s next year, FF.

You can play intermediate again I think, just not in Ulster

Can't play in Ulster at that grade for 5 years IIRC, re Keady and Lisbellaw hurlers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 06, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
so, I think there is only one reason NE won't play Antrim intermediate c/s next year, FF.

You can play intermediate again I think, just not in Ulster

Can't play in Ulster at that grade for 5 years IIRC, re Keady and Lisbellaw hurlers.

Yes smarty pants! Us included
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on December 06, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 06, 2018, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...

agreed, my post was directed at the poster and not the club.

im like everyone else who was very happy to see them win at the weekend. would love to see them go all the way.

aye fair play to them, always good to have an ulster winner, great achievement!

for what its worth I don't think they woulda won the u21 anyway, as I said other week, it will be some team to stop creggans forwards. creggan dunloy final for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 06, 2018, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 06, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on December 06, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
so, I think there is only one reason NE won't play Antrim intermediate c/s next year, FF.

You can play intermediate again I think, just not in Ulster

Can't play in Ulster at that grade for 5 years IIRC, re Keady and Lisbellaw hurlers.

Yes smarty pants! Us included

You're in Div1 hurling next year, so senior is your level and not some "B" competition to make you feel good about yourselves. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 02:29:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2018, 12:33:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2018, 06:26:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: The gooch on December 05, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 05, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
I'm surprised NE pulled out of the u21 B. After all they played in B (intermediate) Championship against "legitimate" B standard teams while playing Div 1. Pure arrogance.

Nail on the head

Intermediate is not a ‘b’ championship I’m afraid. Junior is not a ‘c’ championship either
?
You’re gonna have to explain that one to me.

The teams that play in those championships are the clubs senior teams, they are not the clubs b team or c team. You can have a junior ‘b’ competition but they must win the junior ‘b’ competition to play in the junior competition proper...

All saints this year won Junior ‘b’  and played in a all Ireland ‘championship’ which I think is a great idea, but I’m not hung up on a under21 championship unless the competition was played first and the winners then entered the real championship.


If you’ve played before then you’ll know, you play and want to get on your senior team, regardless of the championship they are in.. you don’t strive to get on the b team but this may be the level you’re at (not you personally) and that’s fine.

I get senior is ‘a’ and intermediate is ‘b’ and so on but I wouldn’t be little Rossa’s All Ireland win in Ctoke Park, or Creggan’s Junior All Ireland
The teams (or at least the vast majority) that play in B competitions at juvenile and indeed the U21B are not the clubs’ 2nd teams either. They are their 1st teams playing in the 2nd tier competition.
Intermediate & Junior are not for reserve teams but they are 2nd & 3rd tier competitions. Effectively, Senior is A, Intermediate is B and Junior is C.
I don’t see why calling them B & C competitions diminishes the clubs’ efforts any more than calling them Intermediate & Junior.

Aye alright.. from now on its 'a' 'b' and 'c' competitions .. will the junior b championship be the 'cb' championship? asking for a friend.

Jeeze tough crowd this week. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 04:33:12 PM
OK, D grade it is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 05:17:13 PM
What is your logic here MR?

It's ok to play A and B at minor level - not ok at u21 but ok again in the form of intermediate and junior at adult age group? I am not sure I follow your train of thought.

A B and C or senior intermediate junior are just labels so that hardly matters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2018, 05:39:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 05:17:13 PM
What is your logic here MR?

It's ok to play A and B at minor level - not ok at u21 but ok again in the form of intermediate and junior at adult age group? I am not sure I follow your train of thought.

A B and C or senior intermediate junior are just labels so that hardly matters.

There is no logic! I had said in an earlier post why are we getting our knickers in a twist over the 'b' grade under 21! It's not like it's a big competition, in my view it should be played off and winners go into the under 21 proper..

So I was accused of belittling it! That's it.

As for junior intermediate and senior,  some posters view it similar to a b c competition, I personally don't.. no biggy. If you want to call it that then fine.

So we are looking forward to the all Ireland b hurling semi final..

Do they still run intermediate and junior county teams? Or b and c county teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on December 06, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Footlocker did you not ask CCC to call LD this time instead of St galls last time and see if they would like to concede seeing as youse are the best team!! I still cant believe that youse had the B***s and arrogance to do that... MR ask you club secretary she'll confirm its not BS....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 07, 2018, 08:26:03 AM
Brendan Crossan in todays Irish News has a good appraisal of "Saffron Vision" as it will be fondly recalled in years to come. A good read for those who were (or remain) sceptical about the achievements of this group of men who literally stepped up when our county needed them most.

The names of four are acknowledged in the article, (Colie Donnelly, Pol Mc Canna, Terry Reilly and Alex Mc Quillan)and they deserve nothing but the highest praise, as do a few others who were extremely prominent behind the scenes, men like Tony Chivers and Dick Mc Keague.

Their ambition and effort kick started the process of restoring pride in Antrim Gaa and saw this process off to a great start. If Antrim ever fulfils its vast potential then the efforts of these men will be long remembered. Thanks gentlemen for your vast and selfless contribution.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 07, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
agreed BS. they do a lot of work both on and behind the scenes and have gotten antrim to a good footing compared to the shape we had got ourselves in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2018, 08:46:48 PM
Good luck to Dunloy tomorrow. Really fancy them to give the tournament a real go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 09, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
All the best to Dunloy today. Special group of lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
As I thought Bellaghy just far too strong. Derry champs have a good record in this competition, and this Bellaghy team is a good one. Will take all the beating in this year's St Pauls tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
St brigids 6 points up on creggan at half time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
As I thought Bellaghy just far too strong. Derry champs have a good record in this competition, and this Bellaghy team is a good one. Will take all the beating in this year's St Pauls tournament.
the score?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
As I thought Bellaghy just far too strong. Derry champs have a good record in this competition, and this Bellaghy team is a good one. Will take all the beating in this year's St Pauls tournament.
the score?

Was a big enough score between them.. 13 point difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2018, 04:39:10 PM
Big result for st brigids. Creggan have some of their best senior players playing at that age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 05:36:22 PM
talking to a disgruntled longstanding volunteer coach today who was telling me the Gaelfast coaching positions required 3 years PAID coaching experience. He has been coaching for longer than this and feels he is losing out because of doing his coaching voluntarily. This has to be wrong surely? He has lots of coaching qualifications too which again he did on his own time.

Surely qualifications and experience should override whether you have been paid before or not? This is discrimination against volunteers - please someone tell me what he told me is wrong.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2018, 06:25:34 PM
St Brigids impressive. I quietly fancied Creggan beforehand but I was well off the mark. James Smyth, Patrick Finnegan and Peter Webb particularly impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 05:36:22 PM
talking to a disgruntled longstanding volunteer coach today who was telling me the Gaelfast coaching positions required 3 years PAID coaching experience. He has been coaching for longer than this and feels he is losing out because of doing his coaching voluntarily. This has to be wrong surely? He has lots of coaching qualifications too which again he did on his own time.

Surely qualifications and experience should override whether you have been paid before or not? This is discrimination against volunteers - please someone tell me what he told me is wrong.......

Was that specified in the application form that they were looking coaches who've been paid and doing coaching as a full time job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: farset on December 09, 2018, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

You sound a bit like a bad winner. You came on here solely to talk about Bellaghy and Dunloy a week or so ago. At least you'll now head off to the Armagh thread (if you haven't already been there).

We'll done Bellaghy Wolfe Tones and hard luck to the proud young men of Dunloy.

In no way a bad winner? I'm literally pointing out my prediction from the middle of the week? I didn't no that was exactly a crime but sure. Very much so hard luck to dunloy I'm sure they trained hard and prepared well for the game but it didn't pan out. I'm sure they will be strong on the minor count come Wednesday night at u21 game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on December 09, 2018, 08:36:33 PM
someone talking some sense for a change

Quote from:  :D on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on December 09, 2018, 08:38:07 PM
Unlucky gooch

Quote from: The gooch on December 06, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 06, 2018, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...

agreed, my post was directed at the poster and not the club.

im like everyone else who was very happy to see them win at the weekend. would love to see them go all the way.

aye fair play to them, always good to have an ulster winner, great achievement!

for what its worth I don't think they woulda won the u21 anyway, as I said other week, it will be some team to stop creggans forwards. creggan dunloy final for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on December 09, 2018, 08:47:11 PM
You can all moan and cry about St Endas winning the intermediate but it happened so get over it.

If they were beat would anyone have complained that they shouldn't have been in it?

They aren't the first div1 team to do it, in fact it happens most years and they certainly wont be the last.

Will gort na mona play senior championship next year? I'm gona guess no.

Until Antrim align league and championship like in Tyrone then this will keep happening.

I do think we handled the whole u21 situation poorly but circumstances and priorities kept changing after we won each game in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria

So the disgruntled friend you know applied for a job without having the essential criteria?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: east down gael on December 10, 2018, 01:26:17 AM
It's strange that naomh eanna get people in Antrim saying they shouldn't be playing in intermediate.no one else in Ulster has even mentioned it.with all respect to Antrim football,playing division one in your county does not mean you are guaranteed to win Ulster intermediate.they played intermediate as they hadn't won the championship at that grade to move up to senior.that makes perfect sense to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 10, 2018, 08:15:03 AM
Fair play to Bellaghy yesterday they were the better team and fully deserved the win and I hope they go all the way

Tough to take but with a good few of them  involved wednesday night against Rossa they wont be feeling sorry for themselves they will be ready to go again with hopefully a better outcome

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 10, 2018, 08:18:28 AM
Was impressed by St Brigid's yesterday......they have improved a lot from last year, and will prove worthy finalists....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2018, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: east down gael on December 10, 2018, 01:26:17 AM
It's strange that naomh eanna get people in Antrim saying they shouldn't be playing in intermediate.no one else in Ulster has even mentioned it.with all respect to Antrim football,playing division one in your county does not mean you are guaranteed to win Ulster intermediate.they played intermediate as they hadn't won the championship at that grade to move up to senior.that makes perfect sense to me.

It's only a couple of begrudgers and hard to know whether they are on the wind up or not so not sure that it's reflective really. Most people are happy for them. Most division 1 teams in antrim wouldn't win ulster intermediate anyway lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 10, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
Hard luck Dunloy.  Yis have had a great season all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on December 10, 2018, 10:22:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.

Add in Mageean, possibly MacLarnon cup, it is a heavy workload

Derry club / school programs are well aligned, and in the past usually worked well with each other to streamline training. Plus Bellaghy are purely football focused, which is a huge advantage when it comes to preparation at this stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thewobbler on December 10, 2018, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.

The first rule of the GAA is that if a small window opens up for a competition to be played, then one will be jammed in there, and everyone will want to win it.

Clubs and players either need to prioritise, or put themselves through the mill. There's genuinely. I way around it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 10, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on December 10, 2018, 10:22:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.

Add in Mageean, possibly MacLarnon cup, it is a heavy workload

Derry club / school programs are well aligned, and in the past usually worked well with each other to streamline training. Plus Bellaghy are purely football focused, which is a huge advantage when it comes to preparation at this stage

absolutly.

the night we played moneyglass in the group stage in Ahoghill on the Tuesday night the most of them lads had played a schools football match that afternoon and came straight from it and proceeded to play an U21 game.

that pure madness that its expected of our young lads. It was the same for the Moneyglass lads as well and no doubt other fellas that evening.

our competitions should be run off at underage level before the schools go back, end of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 10, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on December 10, 2018, 10:22:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.

Add in Mageean, possibly MacLarnon cup, it is a heavy workload

Derry club / school programs are well aligned, and in the past usually worked well with each other to streamline training. Plus Bellaghy are purely football focused, which is a huge advantage when it comes to preparation at this stage

absolutly.

the night we played moneyglass in the group stage in Ahoghill on the Tuesday night the most of them lads had played a schools football match that afternoon and came straight from it and proceeded to play an U21 game.

that pure madness that its expected of our young lads. It was the same for the Moneyglass lads as well and no doubt other fellas that evening.

our competitions should be run off at underage level before the schools go back, end of.

DR ivery difficult to achieve

At Minor level very difficult ....might be slightly easier below minor level as not all county leagues
Minor Football league 12 games
Minor Hurling 11 games
MFC 4 games
MHC 3 games

Approx 30 games

Throw in 2-3 weeks exam time

Laverty Cup  not to mention some overlap in minor panels at one end with U16 and at the other end senior

Not sure how you solve it

Very difficult for a successful dual club


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 10, 2018, 01:45:22 PM
the structures in terms of dates is the bother. we played the last minor game in the league in August with the championship starting at this point and ending 2 months later in Oct exactly. why did it take 2 months to play 3 rounds of football? a quarter final in September was the only game played that month.

2 full months to play 3 rounds of football is total nonsense.

These things are only difficult if they are allowed to made so. Im pretty sure at the start of the year when the fixtures were announced it didnt allow for 6 minor league games in September to be fixed so why are these things allowed to be drawn out over such a long period when its clear it should of been concluded ages ago.

had we won yesterday when was the U21 final proposed to be played or was it a case of waiting to see how far we got or would they have expected us to play in an U21 final (if we win weds night) and a minor match all in one weekend?

it wasnt thought through at all and fact were nearly at Christmas and still playing a 2018 competition is a f**king joke.

im not ungrateful for being in this position as a club, its great to see this success at underage but there must be lessons learned from this in order to protect the youth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 02:18:03 PM
Championships are played after leagues, always have been and this has been fixed around originally all Ireland senior championship.

Club championships have been played late September early October to accommodate everyone coming into the Ulster club series peaking and it would be completely unfair to have played your club finals in July when the winners would wait 2 months before the Ulster club series.. the minor club runs similar as does the Ulster hurling at minor.. I agree that the under 21 should be run off in early May, over the course of three four weeks and no league system either.

But these dates have been around for a while and people only complaining now? Think yourselves lucky to be competing at minor and under 21 at the business end of things. Clubs like Davitts Or Glenravel would love to have your problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The gooch on December 10, 2018, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: breakingball on December 09, 2018, 08:38:07 PM
Unlucky gooch

Quote from: The gooch on December 06, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 06, 2018, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
One eejit on a forum does not represent an entire club so I would be reluctant to chastise the club over one person...

agreed, my post was directed at the poster and not the club.

im like everyone else who was very happy to see them win at the weekend. would love to see them go all the way.

aye fair play to them, always good to have an ulster winner, great achievement!

for what its worth I don't think they woulda won the u21 anyway, as I said other week, it will be some team to stop creggans forwards. creggan dunloy final for me

Ah sure i can be wrong sometimes ;) thats some result for st brides, fair play to them. Dunloy for the win!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 10, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 02:18:03 PM
Championships are played after leagues, always have been and this has been fixed around originally all Ireland senior championship.

Club championships have been played late September early October to accommodate everyone coming into the Ulster club series peaking and it would be completely unfair to have played your club finals in July when the winners would wait 2 months before the Ulster club series.. the minor club runs similar as does the Ulster hurling at minor.. I agree that the under 21 should be run off in early May, over the course of three four weeks and no league system either.

But these dates have been around for a while and people only complaining now? Think yourselves lucky to be competing at minor and under 21 at the business end of things. Clubs like Davitts Or Glenravel would love to have your problem.

Is it a mistake on the county website?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 10, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: farset on December 09, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria

So the disgruntled friend you know applied for a job without having the essential criteria?

😂
No he couldn't that's the point - discrimination against volunteers - MR2 as usual towing the county board line - yawn yawn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 10, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: farset on December 09, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria

So the disgruntled friend you know applied for a job without having the essential criteria?

😂
No he couldn't that's the point - discrimination against volunteers - MR2 as usual towing the county board line - yawn yawn

I'm not, I just think applying for a post without having at the very least the essential criteria is silly.. t

There is a reason for this I'm sure.. being a coach as a full time job and getting paid to do it is very different to heading to  the club and coaching it 2 hours a week. Just my view
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 10, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.

I understand and sympathise with yourselves! A great Bellaghy team as you say who will more than likely win the competition and riddled with Derry minors and coming form successful MacRory teams in St Pats Maghera and St Mary's Magherafelt. Tired legs begin to show towards the end as you said and just looked that wee bit sluggish but no mean feat getting to ulster it's a big achievement and well done to Dunloy. Your game on Wednesday eve will be a great game and would fancy yourselves to progress to the final it's a pity there is no Ulster tournament to see what that group of lads would be like against the best u21 sides in ulster.

In your statement all 15 are dual players that's incorrect as I'm pretty sure Daithi McGuigan didn't play hurling for your minors this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 10, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 10, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: farset on December 09, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria

So the disgruntled friend you know applied for a job without having the essential criteria?

😂
No he couldn't that's the point - discrimination against volunteers - MR2 as usual towing the county board line - yawn yawn

I'm not, I just think applying for a post without having at the very least the essential criteria is silly.. t

There is a reason for this I'm sure.. being a coach as a full time job and getting paid to do it is very different to heading to  the club and coaching it 2 hours a week. Just my view

So jobs for the boys and the usual faces on the paid coaching merry go round, there's a fuckin shock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 09:44:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 10, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 10, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: farset on December 09, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria

So the disgruntled friend you know applied for a job without having the essential criteria?

😂
No he couldn't that's the point - discrimination against volunteers - MR2 as usual towing the county board line - yawn yawn

I'm not, I just think applying for a post without having at the very least the essential criteria is silly.. t

There is a reason for this I'm sure.. being a coach as a full time job and getting paid to do it is very different to heading to  the club and coaching it 2 hours a week. Just my view

So jobs for the boys and the usual faces on the paid coaching merry go round, there's a fuckin shock

You're not making any sense, do you normally apply for jobs that you've no paid experience in? I've done a few first aid courses over the years but I'll not be applying for a doctors job!

Get yourself a qualification in sport studies and a paid job in coaching and apply for the job. I've coached kids for many years but would feel someone who coaches for a living would be better placed than a two night a week trainer, who's probably brilliant but we'd have whingers on complaining about unqualified with poor experience getting jobs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 11, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
They are going into schools to try and improve participation, not taking the Dubs senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ON THE HILL on December 11, 2018, 08:11:02 AM
Is under 21 ulster not on this year ? im sure i seen somewhere the draw is in 2 weeks time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2018, 08:34:55 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 10, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 09, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Told you boys Bellaghy wouldent be a push over. Lorcan Brady and Paul Cassidy hard stooped and Conleth McShane that attacking threat from half back! Dunloy never looked liked even shaping and if it wasn't for a penalty that was scored by a rebound it would of been embarrassing for them. Bellaghy should go on and win it now in fairness but cross will take a stopping too. Dunloy probably weakest side in it.

we were beat, and well beat at that, by the team that will probably win the competition. they are a very good team and have 5 derry minors in their squad and were well worth their win.

our boys looked exhausted in the final 15 mins, something of which was pointed out to me as well by Bellaghy supporters i was standing with watching the match. that was their first competitive game since their county final where as we have had a multitude of games. one of our lads told me sat evening when i asked him was he looking forward to Sunday that he was knackered and sore. they now have another game Wednesday night to play in.

i know people will say things like its a good complaint to have or your victims of your own success but at some point there has to be some sort of common sense that looks at the timing of events like the U21 football so as it doesn't be run off during the middle of the ulster minor hurling and football competitions.

all 15 of our minors are dual players and some of them are U16's so they have played for 4 teams for the duration of this season. i just feel that all our championships need run off before the schools start back again so that young players are actually given a break.

I understand and sympathise with yourselves! A great Bellaghy team as you say who will more than likely win the competition and riddled with Derry minors and coming form successful MacRory teams in St Pats Maghera and St Mary's Magherafelt. Tired legs begin to show towards the end as you said and just looked that wee bit sluggish but no mean feat getting to ulster it's a big achievement and well done to Dunloy. Your game on Wednesday eve will be a great game and would fancy yourselves to progress to the final it's a pity there is no Ulster tournament to see what that group of lads would be like against the best u21 sides in ulster.

In your statement all 15 are dual players that's incorrect as I'm pretty sure Daithi McGuigan didn't play hurling for your minors this year.

he played for the U16 hurlers. it was more a point of the amount of games these fellas have had to play during a year and some of it condensed into a small window. But Bellaghy are a supurd side and look physically strong and fit as well. their score taking is excellent. i know they kicked alot of wides but they created a lot of scoring chances

whats the cut off date for underage leagues to be completed by?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 11, 2018, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 11, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
They are going into schools to try and improve participation, not taking the Dubs senior team.

I can understand having a criteria like a sports science degree or at least a teaching degree with a background in coaching of some sort, but to put down as an essential criteria of being in a paid coaching role intentionally reduces to pool of available "talent" and may reek a bit of jobs for the boys.

TBH a lad with a bit of enthusiasm is more beneficial going into primary schools in particular and some of those paid coaches I've had dealings with would be a bit lacking in that regard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Megaman on December 11, 2018, 10:31:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 09:44:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 10, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2018, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 10, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: farset on December 09, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
Yes 3 years paid experience part of essential criteria

So the disgruntled friend you know applied for a job without having the essential criteria?

😂
No he couldn't that's the point - discrimination against volunteers - MR2 as usual towing the county board line - yawn yawn

I'm not, I just think applying for a post without having at the very least the essential criteria is silly.. t

There is a reason for this I'm sure.. being a coach as a full time job and getting paid to do it is very different to heading to  the club and coaching it 2 hours a week. Just my view

So jobs for the boys and the usual faces on the paid coaching merry go round, there's a fuckin shock

You're not making any sense, do you normally apply for jobs that you've no paid experience in? I've done a few first aid courses over the years but I'll not be applying for a doctors job!

Get yourself a qualification in sport studies and a paid job in coaching and apply for the job. I've coached kids for many years but would feel someone who coaches for a living would be better placed than a two night a week trainer, who's probably brilliant but we'd have whingers on complaining about unqualified with poor experience getting jobs!

What absolute nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 11, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
They are going into schools to try and improve participation, not taking the Dubs senior team.

So how do you think it should be done? what would be the essential criteria?

Proven track record?
Experience of coaching in schools?
etc...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Yes... Clubs have been sending coaches into schools for years for no money...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Yes... Clubs have been sending coaches into schools for years for no money...

Clubs going into schools has been done when I was at primary school, they went in so that they could take the best kids in those days ;D

We've done it for years at various different times, as schools don't have the funding for it but you get nothing for nothing nowadays, everyone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 11, 2018, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Yes... Clubs have been sending coaches into schools for years for no money...

Clubs going into schools has been done when I was at primary school, they went in so that they could take the best kids in those days ;D

We've done it for years at various different times, as schools don't have the funding for it but you get nothing for nothing nowadays, everyone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

I've no problem with coaches going into the schools during school hours and getting paid, I think it is a good idea and long may it continue, but there is still an extremely large need for volunteer coaches within the clubs in the evenings because if there isn't there's absolutely no point in sending coaches into the schools during the day.

There needs to be a development pathway and that's very much based around the club structures and not like Rugby where schools rugby seems to operate totally separately from their club structures. (Based upon my forrays at the oval ball game back in the day).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 11, 2018, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Yes... Clubs have been sending coaches into schools for years for no money...

Clubs going into schools has been done when I was at primary school, they went in so that they could take the best kids in those days ;D

We've done it for years at various different times, as schools don't have the funding for it but you get nothing for nothing nowadays, everyone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

I've no problem with coaches going into the schools during school hours and getting paid, I think it is a good idea and long may it continue, but there is still an extremely large need for volunteer coaches within the clubs in the evenings because if there isn't there's absolutely no point in sending coaches into the schools during the day.

There needs to be a development pathway and that's very much based around the club structures and not like Rugby where schools rugby seems to operate totally separately from their club structures. (Based upon my forrays at the oval ball game back in the day).

There is little or none at all in juvenile terms with rugby at clubs, its improved slightly but very much all concentrated at school level with most schools putting a lot of money into it, they normally have a director of rugby who is a head coach, generally from my experience from another country (3 schools that I know of) who has no teaching to do but work on the coaching of the schools rugby teams.

Schools generally had some dedicated teachers from GAA backgrounds that took the teams and put their heart and soul into it but with the increase workload of teachers its getting harder and harder to have that.. I'd watch my daughters play hockey on a Saturday morning, the school has all their pitches being used for rugby from 1st year right through, and hockey also, all playing the same school, there are plenty of teachers there doing their bit, some may get extra points on the pay scale some don't but they put a good bit of effort behind it..

I don't know the system at schools anymore but when we went there was no coaching other that the one or two sessions leading up to the games, and after the league games and cup games stopped there was no more to do with hurling or football for the year..

Primary school different again I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 11, 2018, 12:27:08 PM
I can say whole heartedly that we have about 5-6 staff out taking GAA every day of the week after school on a voluntary basis.  Most year groups will get 2 coaching sessions a week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job

People on shift work. That is how we worked within our club when I was involved.I am not currently so am not sure we still do that but it went on for years and I doubt it's any different in a lot of places.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job

People on shift work. That is how we worked within our club when I was involved.I am not currently so am not sure we still do that but it went on for years and I doubt it's any different in a lot of places.

Well fair play to them, I'm only refereeing now and I find it difficult enough to fit in with a busy family life, nevermind looking after a club team and coaching at a school.. It certainly reaps benefits for the club, mixed parish or will they all head to same club afterwards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 11, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
I'm hearing that Barry Dillon has been appointed the new Portglenone manager, ambitious appointment from them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2018, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: outinfront on December 11, 2018, 12:27:08 PM
I can say whole heartedly that we have about 5-6 staff out taking GAA every day of the week after school on a voluntary basis.  Most year groups will get 2 coaching sessions a week.

the coaching and work put into the kids in our Primary School is fantastic. they have done a superb job with them all and the results have shown. its nice to see that the work being put in by the school is helping them along in their coaching and development in the hurling esp.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 11, 2018, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job

People on shift work. That is how we worked within our club when I was involved.I am not currently so am not sure we still do that but it went on for years and I doubt it's any different in a lot of places.

Well fair play to them, I'm only refereeing now and I find it difficult enough to fit in with a busy family life, nevermind looking after a club team and coaching at a school.. It certainly reaps benefits for the club, mixed parish or will they all head to same club afterwards?

Most of our players stem from Bredagh and Carryduff, but we would also get a mix from St Brigids, St Endas, St Galls, Glenavey, Rossa, St Teresa's etc.  We are definitely seeing this starting to pay off, with our Y10 team winning the Corn Na nOg Shield there; first ever A title for the school.  Schools and clubs have to put in the hard graft to reap the rewards. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job

People on shift work. That is how we worked within our club when I was involved.I am not currently so am not sure we still do that but it went on for years and I doubt it's any different in a lot of places.

Well fair play to them, I'm only refereeing now and I find it difficult enough to fit in with a busy family life, nevermind looking after a club team and coaching at a school.. It certainly reaps benefits for the club, mixed parish or will they all head to same club afterwards?

Small area with 2 primary schools attached to one club and the nearest club about 8 miles away.

As others have said this would probably be common place too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 11, 2018, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: outinfront on December 11, 2018, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job

People on shift work. That is how we worked within our club when I was involved.I am not currently so am not sure we still do that but it went on for years and I doubt it's any different in a lot of places.

Well fair play to them, I'm only refereeing now and I find it difficult enough to fit in with a busy family life, nevermind looking after a club team and coaching at a school.. It certainly reaps benefits for the club, mixed parish or will they all head to same club afterwards?

Most of our players stem from Bredagh and Carryduff, but we would also get a mix from St Brigids, St Endas, St Galls, Glenavey, Rossa, St Teresa's etc.  We are definitely seeing this starting to pay off, with our Y10 team winning the Corn Na nOg Shield there; first ever A title for the school.  Schools and clubs have to put in the hard graft to reap the rewards.

Any Down coaches going into you considering you're on the Down side of the Lagan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 11, 2018, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: farset on December 11, 2018, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 10, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
In your statement all 15 are dual players that's incorrect as I'm pretty sure Daithi McGuigan didn't play hurling for your minors this year.

You're either a 17 year old looking to talk about Bellaghy all the time, a parent of one of the kids or their coach or something. You won the game. Well done. Don't be a bad winner.

Bellaghy are amazing. They beat a good Dunloy team. Bellaghy are class. Dunloy should bow to their superiority. Bellaghy are strong. Dunloy aren't as good as them.

There you go. What you want everyone to say really.

And me from Slaughtneil too?? So Iv no allegiance to any of the 2 sides just merely stating facts Farset. Something a lot of people on here can't!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 11, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
Dunsilly King

'I'm hearing that Barry Dillon has been appointed the new Portglenone manager, ambitious appointment from them'

I heard today he was on the final shortlist for Kilrea job with 2 other contenders but he's maybe withdrew from that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 11, 2018, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 11, 2018, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: outinfront on December 11, 2018, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.

So who is going to head into schools during a working day and give up 2 hours of their time 2 or 3 days a week? unless the person is retired and ha sthe time you'll struggle, maybe its different up the country, or someone in a flexible job

People on shift work. That is how we worked within our club when I was involved.I am not currently so am not sure we still do that but it went on for years and I doubt it's any different in a lot of places.

Well fair play to them, I'm only refereeing now and I find it difficult enough to fit in with a busy family life, nevermind looking after a club team and coaching at a school.. It certainly reaps benefits for the club, mixed parish or will they all head to same club afterwards?

Most of our players stem from Bredagh and Carryduff, but we would also get a mix from St Brigids, St Endas, St Galls, Glenavey, Rossa, St Teresa's etc.  We are definitely seeing this starting to pay off, with our Y10 team winning the Corn Na nOg Shield there; first ever A title for the school.  Schools and clubs have to put in the hard graft to reap the rewards.

Any Down coaches going into you considering you're on the Down side of the Lagan?

We have had a few "guests" in on occasion to motivate the young ones and give them something a bit different but the guts of coaching is done by the staff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 11, 2018, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Quoteeveryone looking paid and the days of the volunteers is finished unfortunately

That is not true at all.
The days of volunteers are finished - what nonsense! 99% of us are volunteers and getting no coin for our efforts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ON THE HILL on December 11, 2018, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 11, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
Dunsilly King

'I'm hearing that Barry Dillon has been appointed the new Portglenone manager, ambitious appointment from them'

I heard today he was on the final shortlist for Kilrea job with 2 other contenders but he's maybe withdrew from that

shocking appointment if true, got sack last year from ballinascreen who better than PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 11, 2018, 11:08:48 PM
Quote from: farset on December 11, 2018, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 11, 2018, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: farset on December 11, 2018, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 10, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
In your statement all 15 are dual players that's incorrect as I'm pretty sure Daithi McGuigan didn't play hurling for your minors this year.

You're either a 17 year old looking to talk about Bellaghy all the time, a parent of one of the kids or their coach or something. You won the game. Well done. Don't be a bad winner.

Bellaghy are amazing. They beat a good Dunloy team. Bellaghy are class. Dunloy should bow to their superiority. Bellaghy are strong. Dunloy aren't as good as them.

There you go. What you want everyone to say really.

And me from Slaughtneil too?? So Iv no allegiance to any of the 2 sides just merely stating facts Farset. Something a lot of people on here can't!

You know the names of some Dunloy U16s ffs all the way from Slaughtneil (or so you say). That's a bit weird for an adult.

Far a start I went to St Pats in Maghera which the lad I mentioned attends. Your also forgetting that the antrim minor hurling league includes the likes of SNeil , dungiven , Swatragh and screen etc so I'd know a good few players From antrim under age club teams. Your again presuming I'm an adult? I'm 19. You love to presume Farset
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 12, 2018, 12:19:02 AM
Quote from: farset on December 11, 2018, 11:24:36 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 11, 2018, 11:08:48 PM
Quote from: farset on December 11, 2018, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 11, 2018, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: farset on December 11, 2018, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 10, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
In your statement all 15 are dual players that's incorrect as I'm pretty sure Daithi McGuigan didn't play hurling for your minors this year.

You're either a 17 year old looking to talk about Bellaghy all the time, a parent of one of the kids or their coach or something. You won the game. Well done. Don't be a bad winner.

Bellaghy are amazing. They beat a good Dunloy team. Bellaghy are class. Dunloy should bow to their superiority. Bellaghy are strong. Dunloy aren't as good as them.

There you go. What you want everyone to say really.

And me from Slaughtneil too?? So Iv no allegiance to any of the 2 sides just merely stating facts Farset. Something a lot of people on here can't!

You know the names of some Dunloy U16s ffs all the way from Slaughtneil (or so you say). That's a bit weird for an adult.

Far a start I went to St Pats in Maghera which the lad I mentioned attends. Your also forgetting that the antrim minor hurling league includes the likes of SNeil , dungiven , Swatragh and screen etc so I'd know a good few players From antrim under age club teams. Your again presuming I'm an adult? I'm 19. You love to presume Farset

OK but at 19 you are an adult 🤔

Correct at 19 I am an adult. Although in your previous statement your making me out to a be 60 yo peado out watching u16 hurlers. Far from the case
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2018, 08:46:49 AM
U21 semi final the night. Correct me if im wrong but is the entrance to Coláiste Feirste on the Falls Road at the corner there?

ive never been up to it for a match so its to save me getting lost trying to find my way into it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 12, 2018, 09:31:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2018, 08:46:49 AM
U21 semi final the night. Correct me if im wrong but is the entrance to Coláiste Feirste on the Falls Road at the corner there?

ive never been up to it for a match so its to save me getting lost trying to find my way into it.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Coláiste+Feirste/@54.589881,-5.9706485,17.62z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x48610880e382365d:0x11e10bc315b9e5b5!8m2!3d54.5914022!4d-5.9711658?hl=en (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Col%C3%A1iste+Feirste/@54.589881,-5.9706485,17.62z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x48610880e382365d:0x11e10bc315b9e5b5!8m2!3d54.5914022!4d-5.9711658?hl=en)

entrance just past West Belfast sports & social club on the left hand side if travelling from the whiterock road side
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
cheers DK, i had an idea thats where it was at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2018, 10:07:00 AM
Beechmount leisure center, back in the day entrance! the pitch is located on the old gravel pitch which i still bear the scars from many a fall or tackle made on that pitch while playing school games!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ahoy hoy on December 12, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
First of all the facilities at Coláiste Feirste are some of the best ive seen in a long term. for watching a game thats the best ive been to in an age.

In terms of the game i thought we were comfortable throughout the match and defended very well. Rossa started well and both teams were nip and tuck at 0-04 each until we got 3 points in front and took that lead into half time.

Im not sure but is that our first U21 football final we have qualified for? i know we have never won it before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 13, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
Aho hoy

'I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight'

They sure did. Some of their players behaviour was disgusting but not unexpected thankfully we kpet our heads.

Roll on Saturday where we will play our toughest test to date agaisnt a good St Brigids side 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 13, 2018, 12:01:35 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 13, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
Aho hoy

'I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight'

They sure did. Some of their players behaviour was disgusting but not unexpected thankfully we kpet our heads.

Roll on Saturday where we will play our toughest test to date agaisnt a good St Brigids side

Any idea of Venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 13, 2018, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
First of all the facilities at Coláiste Feirste are some of the best ive seen in a long term. for watching a game thats the best ive been to in an age.

In terms of the game i thought we were comfortable throughout the match and defended very well. Rossa started well and both teams were nip and tuck at 0-04 each until we got 3 points in front and took that lead into half time.

Im not sure but is that our first U21 football final we have qualified for? i know we have never won it before.

Good enough for county games DR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 13, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: Derryboy99 on December 13, 2018, 12:01:35 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 13, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
Aho hoy

'I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight'

They sure did. Some of their players behaviour was disgusting but not unexpected thankfully we kpet our heads.

Roll on Saturday where we will play our toughest test to date agaisnt a good St Brigids side

Any idea of Venue?

Ballycastle i heard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 12, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight

Little talk about permitted 'sanctions' but was wondering if such are restricted. 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 13, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Derryboy99

'Any idea of Venue?'

Double header in Woodlands with B final 2 and 3.30
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 13, 2018, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
First of all the facilities at Coláiste Feirste are some of the best ive seen in a long term. for watching a game thats the best ive been to in an age.

In terms of the game i thought we were comfortable throughout the match and defended very well. Rossa started well and both teams were nip and tuck at 0-04 each until we got 3 points in front and took that lead into half time.

Im not sure but is that our first U21 football final we have qualified for? i know we have never won it before.





Good enough for county games DR?

Parking would be an issue for a large crowd there but in terms of spectating its the best ive been to. you would be out a few quid in balls as well flying into the houses behind the goals all the same lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2018, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 13, 2018, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 09:02:40 AM
First of all the facilities at Coláiste Feirste are some of the best ive seen in a long term. for watching a game thats the best ive been to in an age.

In terms of the game i thought we were comfortable throughout the match and defended very well. Rossa started well and both teams were nip and tuck at 0-04 each until we got 3 points in front and took that lead into half time.

Im not sure but is that our first U21 football final we have qualified for? i know we have never won it before.





Good enough for county games DR?

Parking would be an issue for a large crowd there but in terms of spectating its the best ive been to. you would be out a few quid in balls as well flying into the houses behind the goals all the same lol

Pitch would be too small for adult games. It's only 130 metres long as are a lot of these 3G pitches in Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
it was hard to tell there last night if it was the full size. How big is that pitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2018, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
it was hard to tell there last night if it was the full size. How big is that pitch?

I was at a schools game there last year and IIRC there's one line across the middle of the pitch where 65's were taken from in both directions.
Ormeau Park GAA pitch is the same and the Ballycran Keeper I was talking too thinks its the same up in Cherryvale as he tells me he was hitting the other 21 in a recent game up there with no wind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2018, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 12, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight

Little talk about permitted 'sanctions' but was wondering if such are restricted. 8)
2 per club I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 04:48:49 PM
B final between Lamh Dhearg and Moneyglass is wednesday night at 8 at Coláiste Feirste
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2018, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 12, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight

Little talk about permitted 'sanctions' but was wondering if such are restricted. 8)
2 per club I believe

i always thought it was 5 per club, maybe thats been changed or i picked it up wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 13, 2018, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
it was hard to tell there last night if it was the full size. How big is that pitch?

I was at a schools game there last year and IIRC there's one line across the middle of the pitch where 65's were taken from in both directions.
Ormeau Park GAA pitch is the same and the Ballycran Keeper I was talking too thinks its the same up in Cherryvale as he tells me he was hitting the other 21 in a recent game up there with no wind.

oh for def a hurling match would be no use to it with the distance then.

i looked at a pic i took last night and your right there is two 45 yard lines and then a big space between them with a small half way mark to define it for throw in's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 13, 2018, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2018, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 12, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight

Little talk about permitted 'sanctions' but was wondering if such are restricted. 8)
2 per club I believe

Maximum of 5 sanctions into a team is allowed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2018, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 13, 2018, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2018, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on December 12, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
I see st teresas/davitts/rossa took some tanking tonight

Little talk about permitted 'sanctions' but was wondering if such are restricted. 8)
2 per club I believe

Maximum of 5 sanctions into a team is allowed

Five is closer to the mark......bit of a joke when high profile div one clubs employ the 'sanction' loophole to gain recruits from  other units in the same division.
Do not believe the under-21 finalists have made use of such to supplement their teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
It's either that or club players from teams who can't put a team into the competition lose out at that level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2018, 08:59:14 PM
It's 2 per club. See county web / resources/ transfer sanction form/ red writing on form
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 13, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
It's either that or club players from teams who can't put a team into the competition lose out at that level

Or they could pool together to form a team of their own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2018, 10:50:17 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 13, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
It's either that or club players from teams who can't put a team into the competition lose out at that level

Or they could pool together to form a team of their own.

Like Sean Stinson?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 14, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Sean Stinsons no longer exists
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2018, 09:00:09 AM
Quote from: Caesar on December 14, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Sean Stinsons no longer exists

I know, I was using them as a 'club' that brought together two clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2018, 09:31:27 AM
Sean Stinsons was formed as a 'juvenile' unit of our association way back in the late 70s (1978 possibly) and involved an amalgamation of youngsters from neighbouring 'junior' clubs, Casement's and St Mary's.
The formation ensured the progress of both the clubs involved which is underlined in their respective current status.
St Mary's in particular based in an area in which the majority of the surrounding population are not friends of our Association.

Stinson's gained success in the All County stage in a four in a row minor titles 95/98.

There have been more than a few attempts made at replication in our county......without longevity......none were successful.

I struggle to understand those who would draw comparison to the current 'sanction' system...with Sean Stinson's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2018, 09:39:38 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 14, 2018, 09:31:27 AM
Sean Stinsons was formed as a 'juvenile' unit of our association way back in the late 70s (1978 possibly) and involved an amalgamation of youngsters from neighbouring 'junior' clubs, Casement's and St Mary's.
The formation ensured the progress of both the clubs involved which is underlined in their respective current status.
St Mary's in particular based in an area in which the majority of the surrounding population are not friends of our Association.

Stinson's gained success in the All County stage in a four in a row minor titles 95/98.

There have been more than a few attempts made at replication in our county......without longevity......none were successful.

I struggle to understand those who would draw comparison to the current 'sanction' system...with Sean Stinson's.
Quote from: stiffler on December 13, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
It's either that or club players from teams who can't put a team into the competition lose out at that level

Or they could pool together to form a team of their own.

See above post, they could pull together to form their own club, Like Sean Stinsons did a while back

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2018, 09:50:17 AM
As a juvenile club, Stinsons were not allowed to participate in adult (u-21) competition....... 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 14, 2018, 09:51:02 AM
U21 final is sat in woodlands at 4:30pm.

not much of a travel for St Brigids but sure what can you do at this stage of the year for a pitch.

not seen anything of them other than the minor game we played in the semi final, what sort of team are they
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 14, 2018, 12:31:51 PM
this all started with someone saying rossa/st teresas/davitts were beat by Dunloy - is this person saying they had more than 2 sanctions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 14, 2018, 03:06:40 PM
I hear the county board are telling the clubs age grade changes are happening without any debate like they did last Christmas. Do they think everyone is asleep at Christmas! Bad start from new chairman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on December 15, 2018, 06:08:49 AM
Same Horse different Jockey GAA Man slap it up them they voted the puppet in..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 15, 2018, 09:41:33 AM
Absolute madness if today's county under 21 final goes ahead. Storm Dierdre expected to peak over North Eastern Counties (Yes that's Belfast) late pm/early evening with gusts of wind of 65mph expected.

Come on fixture secretary please do the right thing here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 15, 2018, 09:41:33 AM
Absolute madness if today's county under 21 final goes ahead. Storm Dierdre expected to peak over North Eastern Counties (Yes that's Belfast) late pm/early evening with gusts of wind of 65mph expected.

Come on fixture secretary please do the right thing here.

It's in some state here now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 09:48:24 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on December 15, 2018, 06:08:49 AM
Same Horse different Jockey GAA Man slap it up them they voted the puppet in..
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 14, 2018, 03:06:40 PM
I hear the county board are telling the clubs age grade changes are happening without any debate like they did last Christmas. Do they think everyone is asleep at Christmas! Bad start from new chairman

Good to see the usual county committee bashing is alive and well, the mans in the job a couple of weeks and couple of faceless balloons start attacking him!

Let's judge people on their whole time in office eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 15, 2018, 10:42:22 AM
a couple of facts

- clubs were told at a monthly county meeting in September there would be no change until 2020 when Croke Park were making the changes compulsory
- without further discussion clubs are informed by email on 14th Dec that the county is unilaterally bringing changes it doesn't have to make in 2019
- clubs are asking to register disapproval by 28th Dec

If saying this isn't a good way of treating our clubs make me a balloon then I'm a balloon!

I said it wasn't a good start for the new chairman but that doesn't mean he might not end up being a great chairman

MR2 we are all faceless on this forum that's how forums work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 15, 2018, 10:42:22 AM
a couple of facts

- clubs were told at a monthly county meeting in September there would be no change until 2020 when Croke Park were making the changes compulsory
- without further discussion clubs are informed by email on 14th Dec that the county is unilaterally bringing changes it doesn't have to make in 2019
- clubs are asking to register disapproval by 28th Dec

If saying this isn't a good way of treating our clubs make me a balloon then I'm a balloon!

I said it wasn't a good start for the new chairman but that doesn't mean he might not end up being a great chairman

MR2 we are all faceless on this forum that's how forums work

I'm not faceless nor is bandside and a few others here, plenty well known even if they think they ain't!

Having a pot shot at people is cheap, I've been guilty of it to in the past, it's frustrating as a manager or player when things at committee level go against your judgement, but these people put their head on the blocks, they are voted in and we won't see eye to eye on things but there is a process and should you feel strongly about it, get involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 12:04:50 PM
As for bringing in the changes it's going to happen anyway, other counties have already started it.. a year early means it's tough on that kid that will miss out and a managers team will not have the players he thought he had, but it will be the same for everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 15, 2018, 02:04:24 PM
Under-21 final will now be Tuesday evening......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 15, 2018, 02:26:42 PM
Common sense prevails re  U 21 final. Good call, fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 15, 2018, 02:47:27 PM
Despite previous Under-21 final will now proceed tomorrow, Sun 16th at Colaiste Feriste......3pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 15, 2018, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: farset on December 15, 2018, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 15, 2018, 10:42:22 AM
a couple of facts

- clubs were told at a monthly county meeting in September there would be no change until 2020 when Croke Park were making the changes compulsory
- without further discussion clubs are informed by email on 14th Dec that the county is unilaterally bringing changes it doesn't have to make in 2019
- clubs are asking to register disapproval by 28th Dec

If saying this isn't a good way of treating our clubs make me a balloon then I'm a balloon!

I said it wasn't a good start for the new chairman but that doesn't mean he might not end up being a great chairman

MR2 we are all faceless on this forum that's how forums work

I'm not faceless nor is bandside and a few others here, plenty well known even if they think they ain't!

Having a pot shot at people is cheap, I've been guilty of it to in the past, it's frustrating as a manager or player when things at committee level go against your judgement, but these people put their head on the blocks, they are voted in and we won't see eye to eye on things but there is a process and should you feel strongly about it, get involved

+1.

I've been guilty of it too and have apologised when wrong but ffs he's only in the job a week and he's getting a hard time on here for carrying out a Croke Park DIRECTIVE.

As Mr said, it's happening anyway. We might as well get the structures on place. I take it you wanted a go at Féile Belfast GAA man?

The problem with this change  is that it is completely geared to the education system in the south   and shows no regard to students sitting gcses and a levels here.

Personally  think  it will make little difference to the issues surrounding  15 -19 age groups and participation levels.

Alot of talk about players joining on sanctions   but think it reflects low numbers all round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 15, 2018, 04:21:09 PM
it is not a DIRECTIVE to change until 2020 - ask your club for details of the communications / my club hasn't competed at National Feile level in long time and not expecting it to next year

So everyone else appears to think this has been handled well? 14th December communication...

Apart from paid referees and paid coaches the rest of us are hard working volunteers and I believe in communicating and discussing important issues with them not issuing emails

Who knows whether u19 will work but this no way to go about a big change that doesn't yet have to happen

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on December 15, 2018, 04:23:14 PM
Do you honestly think this has been well handled by the County?

Clubs informed in the middle of the season that it would remain status quo for 2019 and any changes taking affect 2020 only to be told on the 13 Dec (after AGM's) that everything is changing a year early.

The change is inevitable but it has been handled dreadfully.

Too many unanswered questions, Feile for one, will Camogie move in line, how does it impact the competitions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 15, 2018, 04:53:58 PM
Wind you neck in Farset. Last minute communications appear underhand. A lot of clubs have coaches selected and training plans ready or training is underway. As volunteers coaches tend to work with age groups where their kids are involved and last minute changes like this will have a negative impact IMO. Very badly handled. Wonder will there be a drop off in participation especially at u19 & U18 level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 06:07:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 15, 2018, 04:21:09 PM
it is not a DIRECTIVE to change until 2020 - ask your club for details of the communications / my club hasn't competed at National Feile level in long time and not expecting it to next year

So everyone else appears to think this has been handled well? 14th December communication...

Apart from paid referees and paid coaches the rest of us are hard working volunteers and I believe in communicating and discussing important issues with them not issuing emails

Who knows whether u19 will work but this no way to go about a big change that doesn't yet have to happen

So referees and paid coaches aren't hard working? I get expenses, I don't get paid, I've a job..  :D

You volunteer like thousands of people do because you want to. Not on your own in that department two nights a week and a match.. ive done it for years!  Good for you. You're a professional moaner though..

The changes are the same for every club, it's crap but coming anyway. We've people in place and that will change, I nearly stepped back into managing again and would have had to deal with it myself and would have been annoyed but at least I'd accept it and move on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 15, 2018, 07:50:42 PM
Beware of touts I was always told.
In Sept clubs advised no change, now after AGMs there is a will to change something that is not being implemented nationwide until 2020. Feel sorry for lads that will not be able to play Feile and those who are 18 and miss out on minor.
Following a late directive is not really planning for future implementation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2018, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 15, 2018, 07:50:42 PM
Beware of touts I was always told.
In Sept clubs advised no change, now after AGMs there is a will to change something that is not being implemented nationwide until 2020. Feel sorry for lads that will not be able to play Feile and those who are 18 and miss out on minor.
Following a late directive is not really planning for future implementation

Would you also feel sorry for the lads the following year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on December 16, 2018, 07:08:34 AM
So referees and paid coaches aren't hard working? I get expenses, I don't get paid, I've a job..



Now Now MR you get a match fee plus travelling expenses for mileage... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) the refs in the south have to declare their match fee to the revenue.....  and i do agree we all work hard irresespective wheter we get a fee or expenses or nought...thats the GAA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 16, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
A few quid, for having to listen to an hour of non stop shite. An absolute bargain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 16, 2018, 04:51:57 PM
St Brigids u21 champions after a good win over Dunloy today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 16, 2018, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 16, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
A few quid, for having to listen to an hour of non stop shite. An absolute bargain.

Need to get some money to put up with that shite!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 16, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
It was never enough, I can tell ya. And now HMRC want 20% lol? End of refereeing,  as we know it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on December 16, 2018, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: stiffler on December 16, 2018, 04:51:57 PM
St Brigids u21 champions after a good win over Dunloy today.

What happened with flood lights?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
Great boost to St Brigids for division 1 next year. R they intermediate or senior championship next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2018, 09:09:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
Great boost to St Brigids for division 1 next year. R they intermediate or senior championship next year?

We won't know till they decision suppose.. as the  option is still available, great win for a new (ish) Belfast club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 16, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Commiserations to Dunloy who lost nothing in defeat and will be back competing for this title again next year. But sincere congrats to St Brigids who posted a flag in the ground for the City, first one of the year, and a big statement of intent for their future.

Antrim needs a strong base in the city and St Brigids have now scored their biggest ever success. Well done, enjoy and go build on that. Greg Finnegan has seen a fair bit in his football career, but today could be the highlight, and to do it with his son Patrick leading from front must be particularly satisfying. On today's display Antrim football is not in bad shape. Hopefully St Brigids will go on to hold their own in the Creggan tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2018, 08:36:45 AM
we shot ourselves in the foot in the second half with some poor shooting. had we not missed all them chances esp when we were in front it would have made a difference.

A pity but at the same time not too disappointed at losing. Brigids were the strong favourites for the competition and have looked strong all the way through the competition and were worthy winners at the end up.

B county final last year and A county final the following year so we are making big strides there. The lads can now take a well deserved rest now after being on the go for so long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on December 17, 2018, 09:09:48 AM
Before the creation of St Brigid's what clubs would the players from their catchment area have went to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 17, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Commiserations to Dunloy who lost nothing in defeat and will be back competing for this title again next year. But sincere congrats to St Brigids who posted a flag in the ground for the City, first one of the year, and a big statement of intent for their future.

Antrim needs a strong base in the city and St Brigids have now scored their biggest ever success. Well done, enjoy and go build on that. Greg Finnegan has seen a fair bit in his football career, but today could be the highlight, and to do it with his son Patrick leading from front must be particularly satisfying. On today's display Antrim football is not in bad shape. Hopefully St Brigids will go on to hold their own in the Creggan tournament.

I thought there was no Creggan tournament this year?
EDIT: I now see that there is.  Was there an issue about u20/u21 teams?
I would say Carryduff will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 17, 2018, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: outinfront on December 17, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Commiserations to Dunloy who lost nothing in defeat and will be back competing for this title again next year. But sincere congrats to St Brigids who posted a flag in the ground for the City, first one of the year, and a big statement of intent for their future.

Antrim needs a strong base in the city and St Brigids have now scored their biggest ever success. Well done, enjoy and go build on that. Greg Finnegan has seen a fair bit in his football career, but today could be the highlight, and to do it with his son Patrick leading from front must be particularly satisfying. On today's display Antrim football is not in bad shape. Hopefully St Brigids will go on to hold their own in the Creggan tournament.

I thought there was no Creggan tournament this year?
EDIT: I now see that there is.  Was there an issue about u20/u21 teams?
I would say Carryduff will be hard to beat.




When Does this tournament start? / When is the draw made?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
must say on another note i was disappoint in the Brigids line and management constantly calling for a black card in the second half to get a player out of the game.

they were pissed at the ref black carding two of their players in the first half so felt the need to constantly harass the ref to try and get him to get our players out of the game. at the end up the black card and red card we did get were totally deserved at the end of the game and down to frustration.

it was very poor imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 17, 2018, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: toby47 on December 17, 2018, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: outinfront on December 17, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Commiserations to Dunloy who lost nothing in defeat and will be back competing for this title again next year. But sincere congrats to St Brigids who posted a flag in the ground for the City, first one of the year, and a big statement of intent for their future.

Antrim needs a strong base in the city and St Brigids have now scored their biggest ever success. Well done, enjoy and go build on that. Greg Finnegan has seen a fair bit in his football career, but today could be the highlight, and to do it with his son Patrick leading from front must be particularly satisfying. On today's display Antrim football is not in bad shape. Hopefully St Brigids will go on to hold their own in the Creggan tournament.

I thought there was no Creggan tournament this year?
EDIT: I now see that there is.  Was there an issue about u20/u21 teams?
I would say Carryduff will be hard to beat.




When Does this tournament start? / When is the draw made?

Launch is Dec 27th, no idea about when it starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: farset on December 17, 2018, 02:43:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 17, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
must say on another note i was disappoint in the Brigids line and management constantly calling for a black card in the second half to get a player out of the game.

they were pissed at the ref black carding two of their players in the first half so felt the need to constantly harass the ref to try and get him to get our players out of the game. at the end up the black card and red card we did get were totally deserved at the end of the game and down to frustration.

it was very poor imo.

It's frustrating and the ugly part of our games.  While you mightn't like it, there will have been loads of supporters and people on the Dunloy line in the past calling out refereeing decisions including black cards.  One of those things that you have to just take on the chin and know that you are better than that.

aw i dont have any problem with supporters doing it, you have no control over that aspect of a game. Or a line calling out for a foul, again thats no bother to me. its seeing managers and subs roaring out 'black card ref, black card' time and again to try and get a young fella put out of the game because they felt aggrieved at him giving them 2 in the first half.

its very very poor to see that going on.

But it makes no difference to the result now. St Brigid's were worthy winners this year, they will do well in Senior if they keep going the way they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2018, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: farset on December 17, 2018, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on December 17, 2018, 09:09:48 AM
Before the creation of St Brigid's what clubs would the players from their catchment area have went to?

Oxford and Cambridge boat clubs.
Think most of them went to Naomh Pol Naomh Gall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on December 17, 2018, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 17, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
must say on another note i was disappoint in the Brigids line and management constantly calling for a black card in the second half to get a player out of the game.

they were pissed at the ref black carding two of their players in the first half so felt the need to constantly harass the ref to try and get him to get our players out of the game. at the end up the black card and red card we did get were totally deserved at the end of the game and down to frustration.

it was very poor imo.

Thought the game was played in the right spirit for the vast majority of it.  There may have been calls from the St Brigids sideline for black cards - I couldn't hear if they did/did not as I was at the top of the stand and they were on the far side. However, I'll take DRs word for it. The reaction of some Dunloy players towards the end (DR puts it down to frustration) was also a little disappointing and not the best way to react in defeat. In fairness to the Dunloy line they prevented their players from escalating things on the final whistle.

Great game of football and end to end stuff with either side unlucky come out on the wrong side of the result at the end. St Brigids had that little bit more composure when it counted. One u21 win however does not make a senior club! Let's see if they can back it up in the years ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
it was a good game to be fair and its the way football should be played. Not defensive borefests but two teams who want to play fast attacking football.

its renewed my faith in the game again after watching some pure garbage this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 18, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
Pjoe

'The reaction of some Dunloy players towards the end (DR puts it down to frustration) was also a little disappointing and not the best way to react in defeat. In fairness to the Dunloy line they prevented their players from escalating things on the final whistle'

The 1st slap threw at the end was from a St Brigids player. Dunloy players were restrained straight away as even in defeat we have a bit of class and not going to ruin a fantastic season for this group of players at the very end off it. The starting 15 we lose one next year so we will get another go at St Brigids all being well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
it was a good game to be fair and its the way football should be played. Not defensive borefests but two teams who want to play fast attacking football.

its renewed my faith in the game again after watching some pure garbage this year.

Yes I noticed that all the games at Under 21 and Minor have been played the way it should (from a entertaining point of view). Obviously some managers would disagree and want a tight affair with plenty of possesion, but they have been sold on the idea of keep ball wins games...

Once these lads hit senior that will be knocked clean out of them unfortunately  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2018, 03:45:48 PM
we did come up against a few teams who wanted to defend all the game but when you have a team thats fit and full of running for an hour that sort of defensive boke wont work.

but then again you cant force a team to play a way. if they want to score 4 points in a game and go home happy thats up to them lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 02:01:53 PM
I see Ahoghill had 2 players in the moneyglass u21 team that won last night so sanctions aren't just a city way of strengthening your team as previous posters have suggested
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2018, 03:03:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 02:01:53 PM
I see Ahoghill had 2 players in the moneyglass u21 team that won last night so sanctions aren't just a city way of strengthening your team as previous posters have suggested

Only spotted one St Mary's man in the Mg team......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 20, 2018, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 02:01:53 PM
I see Ahoghill had 2 players in the moneyglass u21 team that won last night so sanctions aren't just a city way of strengthening your team as previous posters have suggested

Any Fermanagh men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 04:05:01 PM
Ahoghill's twitter named 2 players - have they no underage teams at all now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2018, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 04:05:01 PM
Ahoghill's twitter named 2 players - have they no underage teams at all now?

Only one Mary's man, R Graham on the team....

Ahogjill do not participate in u-age football......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2018, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 04:05:01 PM
Ahoghill's twitter named 2 players - have they no underage teams at all now?

Only one Mary's man, R Graham on the team....

Ahogjill do not participate in u-age football......

Under age? under 21 is an adult competition no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on December 20, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2018, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 04:05:01 PM
Ahoghill's twitter named 2 players - have they no underage teams at all now?

Only one Mary's man, R Graham on the team....

Ahogjill do not participate in u-age football......

Under age? under 21 is an adult competition no?
You're not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2018, 08:20:09 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 20, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2018, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2018, 04:05:01 PM
Ahoghill's twitter named 2 players - have they no underage teams at all now?

Only one Mary's man, R Graham on the team....

Ahogjill do not participate in u-age football......

Under age? under 21 is an adult competition no?
You're not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

Did you remember your other password then CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
At the u21 final the other night a big lad got carried off after landing on the 4g. Is there any research on grass v artificial surfaces injury wise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on December 21, 2018, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
At the u21 final the other night a big lad got carried off after landing on the 4g. Is there any research on grass v artificial surfaces injury wise?
How'd he come down?

There'd be a lot of boys complaining if you're doing preseason on that surface. There's no give compared to sod.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2018, 04:04:03 PM
He caught a high ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2018, 04:18:05 PM
I'm hearing the county has thought better of the age grade changes. Fair play to them for not stubbornly sticking to a poor decision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2018, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on December 21, 2018, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
At the u21 final the other night a big lad got carried off after landing on the 4g. Is there any research on grass v artificial surfaces injury wise?
How'd he come down?

There'd be a lot of boys complaining if you're doing preseason on that surface. There's no give compared to sod.

Plenty of professional clubs in soccer using 4g, you'd be best to get and idea from them I'd say.. as for the lad during week he went up for a high ball and came down hard, not sure it was ankle leg injury or he landed on his head. Other lad came off to, twisted his ankle..

It's a fast pitch as are all 4g, I'd like to know which would be the best footwear for 4g as it may be a factor.. in the height of summer some pitches are rock hard also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2018, 05:17:47 PM
All good points . Just need a study done. I think the 4gs I'm Belfast have been a great addition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: drillsergeant on December 23, 2018, 08:30:48 AM
Is there any truth that Dillion is the new Roger Casement's Portglenone Manager for 2019 as I heard from another source that he has come to a agreement with Pearce's Kilrea.

Also many other manager changes as lately? Cassidy committed to another year with the champions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2018, 12:44:37 PM
What a brilliant tournament Naomh Pol run every year - maith sibh! looks like Bellaghy are something else....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 04, 2019, 11:44:00 AM
Yes Barry Dillon has been appointed Portglenone manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 04, 2019, 02:53:51 PM
what's he won before and how much is he getting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 04, 2019, 05:25:51 PM
Why would anyone tell you whats expenses he is getting, you'll only criticise any way, as its the only reason you are asking. Dillon is an excellent coach. He has coached Derry seniors and their U21s, Ballinascreen to county final ( best as they could do as Slaughtneil were unbeatable at the time in Derry) Currently coaches UUJ in sigerson. And just to burst your bubble, takes Red Hughs into the All Ireland semifinal this month. Fair play to Portglenone for having the ambition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 11:51:39 AM
Great experience. Just amazes me the amount of money many SW clubs have to spend when Belfast clubs are selling tickets to cover the league fees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2019, 03:58:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 11:51:39 AM
Great experience. Just amazes me the amount of money many SW clubs have to spend when Belfast clubs are selling tickets to cover the league fees

How many outside coaches are coaching around the city?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2019, 07:33:25 PM
Gorts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on January 06, 2019, 07:49:38 PM
St Paul's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on January 06, 2019, 08:00:19 PM
Paddy Linden?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 06, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Was anyone in Glenavy to witness that complete hammering today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 06, 2019, 10:03:02 PM
Yip, very poor.

Starting with the keeper... surely we have more than 1 in the whole county?

Playing 2 sweepers. Very negative and defensive but still shipping 2.8 in first quarter.

Armagh were more aggressive in the tackle and won near all the individual battles all over the park.

Game was over after 15 mins which made the 2nd half a non-event. A last minute goal put a respectable gloss on the score.

Quote from: JimStynes on January 06, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Was anyone in Glenavy to witness that complete hammering today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 07, 2019, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

Cargin and creggan paying around the 20k figure to  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW

Belfast and Dublin would be more open to this type of stuff to be fair.. would be down to mainly (in my view) fall outs between players committiee men and so on, chasing medals would be lower end stuff TBH.. when you have as many clubs in Belfast within a small area that gives people choice unfortunately, the sticking to one club may not suit everyone, parish clubs are completly different and most clubs in Belfast would love that but not many people always live within thier parish as such, if they do then after they get married they move out of that area in most cases..

I lived less than half a mile from Naomh Gall, but half a mile the other direction was the lower Falls clubs and I passed O'donnell's and Corrigan before hitting the club.. In Belfast it's generally made up of kids that went to a certain primary school (St Galls, St Finians for instance) and that paved the way to join a club. the other and biggest factor was always being associated with a family that was in the club and that was the natural progression and would be the main factor to our recruitment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW

Belfast and Dublin would be more open to this type of stuff to be fair.. would be down to mainly (in my view) fall outs between players committiee men and so on, chasing medals would be lower end stuff TBH.. when you have as many clubs in Belfast within a small area that gives people choice unfortunately, the sticking to one club may not suit everyone, parish clubs are completly different and most clubs in Belfast would love that but not many people always live within thier parish as such, if they do then after they get married they move out of that area in most cases..

I lived less than half a mile from Naomh Gall, but half a mile the other direction was the lower Falls clubs and I passed O'donnell's and Corrigan before hitting the club.. In Belfast it's generally made up of kids that went to a certain primary school (St Galls, St Finians for instance) and that paved the way to join a club. the other and biggest factor was always being associated with a family that was in the club and that was the natural progression and would be the main factor to our recruitment.

How'd Mickey Pollock end up at St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW

Belfast and Dublin would be more open to this type of stuff to be fair.. would be down to mainly (in my view) fall outs between players committiee men and so on, chasing medals would be lower end stuff TBH.. when you have as many clubs in Belfast within a small area that gives people choice unfortunately, the sticking to one club may not suit everyone, parish clubs are completly different and most clubs in Belfast would love that but not many people always live within thier parish as such, if they do then after they get married they move out of that area in most cases..

I lived less than half a mile from Naomh Gall, but half a mile the other direction was the lower Falls clubs and I passed O'donnell's and Corrigan before hitting the club.. In Belfast it's generally made up of kids that went to a certain primary school (St Galls, St Finians for instance) and that paved the way to join a club. the other and biggest factor was always being associated with a family that was in the club and that was the natural progression and would be the main factor to our recruitment.

How'd Mickey Pollock end up at St Galls?

I've no idea. Like asking how did Magill end up leaving Tir Na Og.. Like i said in my post there are various factors.. take one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW

Belfast and Dublin would be more open to this type of stuff to be fair.. would be down to mainly (in my view) fall outs between players committiee men and so on, chasing medals would be lower end stuff TBH.. when you have as many clubs in Belfast within a small area that gives people choice unfortunately, the sticking to one club may not suit everyone, parish clubs are completly different and most clubs in Belfast would love that but not many people always live within thier parish as such, if they do then after they get married they move out of that area in most cases..

I lived less than half a mile from Naomh Gall, but half a mile the other direction was the lower Falls clubs and I passed O'donnell's and Corrigan before hitting the club.. In Belfast it's generally made up of kids that went to a certain primary school (St Galls, St Finians for instance) and that paved the way to join a club. the other and biggest factor was always being associated with a family that was in the club and that was the natural progression and would be the main factor to our recruitment.

How'd Mickey Pollock end up at St Galls?

I've no idea. Like asking how did Magill end up leaving Tir Na Og.. Like i said in my post there are various factors.. take one

Relax kid. Stop taking it so personal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW

Belfast and Dublin would be more open to this type of stuff to be fair.. would be down to mainly (in my view) fall outs between players committiee men and so on, chasing medals would be lower end stuff TBH.. when you have as many clubs in Belfast within a small area that gives people choice unfortunately, the sticking to one club may not suit everyone, parish clubs are completly different and most clubs in Belfast would love that but not many people always live within thier parish as such, if they do then after they get married they move out of that area in most cases..

I lived less than half a mile from Naomh Gall, but half a mile the other direction was the lower Falls clubs and I passed O'donnell's and Corrigan before hitting the club.. In Belfast it's generally made up of kids that went to a certain primary school (St Galls, St Finians for instance) and that paved the way to join a club. the other and biggest factor was always being associated with a family that was in the club and that was the natural progression and would be the main factor to our recruitment.

How'd Mickey Pollock end up at St Galls?

I've no idea. Like asking how did Magill end up leaving Tir Na Og.. Like i said in my post there are various factors.. take one

Relax kid. Stop taking it so personal.

I didnt as I'm not MP.. I gave factors but you thought you'd try and be funny  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 04:22:15 PM
Its inevitable that some clubs, due to a lack of experience/expertise, will have to get someone in to help their club.

But we don't want to turn the club game into the county game - teams with the most money - Dublin - are winning all round them with pockets full of money to keep it going....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on January 07, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2019, 05:53:24 PM
No doubt there will b one or two but can't think of any. Seems to b rife in SW

Who is there is the SW?
off the top of my head Cargin Creggan pg1 aghagallon glenavy

You left out St Endas  ;) 

depending on how wel they do that will be a Belfast club or a SW one  :o
How many players transferred between the Belfast clubs. Always seemed to b rile in Belfast.  Not as much in the SW

Belfast and Dublin would be more open to this type of stuff to be fair.. would be down to mainly (in my view) fall outs between players committiee men and so on, chasing medals would be lower end stuff TBH.. when you have as many clubs in Belfast within a small area that gives people choice unfortunately, the sticking to one club may not suit everyone, parish clubs are completly different and most clubs in Belfast would love that but not many people always live within thier parish as such, if they do then after they get married they move out of that area in most cases..

I lived less than half a mile from Naomh Gall, but half a mile the other direction was the lower Falls clubs and I passed O'donnell's and Corrigan before hitting the club.. In Belfast it's generally made up of kids that went to a certain primary school (St Galls, St Finians for instance) and that paved the way to join a club. the other and biggest factor was always being associated with a family that was in the club and that was the natural progression and would be the main factor to our recruitment.

How'd Mickey Pollock end up at St Galls?

I've no idea. Like asking how did Magill end up leaving Tir Na Og.. Like i said in my post there are various factors.. take one

Relax kid. Stop taking it so personal.

I didnt as I'm not MP.. I gave factors but you thought you'd try and be funny  :D

I wasn't trying to be funny! I was asking a simple question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 04:27:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 04:22:15 PM
Its inevitable that some clubs, due to a lack of experience/expertise, will have to get someone in to help their club.

But we don't want to turn the club game into the county game - teams with the most money - Dublin - are winning all round them with pockets full of money to keep it going....

Having a bit of luck, decent structures and committed players will take you a lot further (at club level) than having a few pound.. Davitts have more money than most clubs for years in Belfast..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 07, 2019, 04:51:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 04:27:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2019, 04:22:15 PM
Its inevitable that some clubs, due to a lack of experience/expertise, will have to get someone in to help their club.

But we don't want to turn the club game into the county game - teams with the most money - Dublin - are winning all round them with pockets full of money to keep it going....

Having a bit of luck, decent structures and committed players will take you a lot further (at club level) than having a few pound.. Davitts have more money than most clubs for years in Belfast..

agree with this. its all about having a lot of luck with your youth in terms of good players, they all stay together right up through and the coaching they get along the way.

you can throw all the money in the world at a senior team and coaches etc but they wont ever play like Dublin if the players aint there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 07, 2019, 10:48:07 PM
Madness that our County team were EIGHTEEN to 2 down at half time yesterday and  no one on here appears to give a f**k. Bitching about transfers

Literally just accepting being worse than shite and not laying a glove on the opposition.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 11:10:51 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 07, 2019, 10:48:07 PM
Madness that our County team were EIGHTEEN to 2 down at half time yesterday and  no one on here appears to give a f**k. Bitching about transfers

Literally just accepting being worse than shite and not laying a glove on the opposition.

With the squad available was that as good as we can be? The score line at home against a mediocre team was crap.. can be no positives from that at all..

With the pool of players that have made themselves available we are well below standard unfortunately.. what else can be said?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 07, 2019, 11:26:52 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 07, 2019, 10:48:07 PM
Madness that our County team were EIGHTEEN to 2 down at half time yesterday and  no one on here appears to give a f**k. Bitching about transfers

Literally just accepting being worse than shite and not laying a glove on the opposition.

Was thinking that myself. Can't understand how a goalkeeper can't be found.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 08, 2019, 12:45:07 AM
Second rate performances are accepted because we've come to expect nothing else. It's the reality of where we are.

Heard that Mr Donnelly was unpopular with some PG1 players due to outside interference.... or maybe inside interference depending on what way you look at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 08, 2019, 08:50:51 AM
Fair play to the county lads who have made themselves available but the truth is most of them would not be playing for most other county teams. That's the reality of where we are. I feel sorry for the management who can only work with what they've got. Until we change the mindset throughout the county so that all club players want to play for the county team, we are not going to improve.

If the county were to break the bank and bring in a big name manager for a year or two, would that help? The right person might be able to get better commitment from a few of the missing players which in turn would make it a more attractive prospect for the rest of the players to commit to.

Having said that I would question the amount of genuine county quality players there are in the county who have not committed. There's not as many as some people like to believe.

In reply to the above post, I heard Donnelly was very popular with the Pg1 players and they wanted him back. They have a good young squad and there is no doubt they made a lot of progress under him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronog67 on January 08, 2019, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 07, 2019, 11:26:52 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 07, 2019, 10:48:07 PM
Madness that our County team were EIGHTEEN to 2 down at half time yesterday and  no one on here appears to give a f**k. Bitching about transfers

Literally just accepting being worse than shite and not laying a glove on the opposition.

Was thinking that myself. Can't understand how a goalkeeper can't be found.

There are plenty of strong keepers in Antrim, Nugent is a strong keeper. Why has Lenny has tried to train a full forward to do nets is beyond me! He needs to be questioned on this and held accountable.  Why has Ronan Hanna, Kerrs understudy, not been approached? One of the best keepers in Ulster at Minor and u21, having played with him on development squads I saw it first hand. Speaking to him over Christmas he said he has never been asked to even attend a trial.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 08, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
the creggan goalkeeper oisin kerr I think that's his name is a strong goal keeper also defiantly upto that standard, Nugent should be number 1 IMO with young Hasson competing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on January 09, 2019, 08:31:43 PM
Happy new year.
Have only seen two really one sided matches so for this year, both rubbish, and it was more expensive to watch club minors playing than it was a senior county game !

Ps. There's more than a keeper Antrim need.
Pss. And unfortunately Christmas is just past...  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2019, 11:34:08 PM
That was a good bit better tonight. Marty Johnston and Ryan Murray both made a good difference, and new boys Eoin Mc Keown Eoghan Mc Cabe Patrick Finnegan and Fergal Burke all showed up well too.

Tackling much better and only one sweeper instead of two freed us up a bit more going forward. We've a couple of huge games coming up and some really hard work going on behind the scenes, so let's get behind the team and management and see how that goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2019, 11:46:45 PM
I was at the Armagh game on Sunday, so amazed to hear this result tonight. Must've been like chalk and cheese. You'd have thought St Mary's would be going ok at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2019, 08:30:08 AM
I meant to say Fintan Burke.... quite impressed with him tbh! The Ranch wouldn't have the same big names as last year which makes their draw with Monaghan at the weekend all the more impressive.

Lenny still has a few St Endas lads to call on, plus possible first choice midfielders Conor Murray and Stephen Beattie who are on injured list, so I'm still optimistic that we will be competitive in our division.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on January 10, 2019, 10:48:24 AM
Bannside, in fairness, you have to be the most optimistic supporter I have ever come across.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2019, 12:18:24 PM
If we beat youse in two weeks Shawshank I'll do a wee tour of every pub in Kilrea that night with my Antrim colours on. If we lose you won't see me for weeks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 11, 2019, 08:40:59 AM
St marys were poor. Offered little.

Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2019, 11:46:45 PM
I was at the Armagh game on Sunday, so amazed to hear this result tonight. Must've been like chalk and cheese. You'd have thought St Mary's would be going ok at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 11, 2019, 08:45:38 AM
Two tough games to start. If we lose both our year is already effectively over. Bar maybe a win or two in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
Are there any Aghagallon lads coming through the senior county team? They are one of the upcoming club teams....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryboy99 on January 11, 2019, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on January 08, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
the creggan goalkeeper oisin kerr I think that's his name is a strong goal keeper also defiantly upto that standard, Nugent should be number 1 IMO with young Hasson competing

Oisin is the best Keeper in Antrim without a shadow of a doubt. Was on the county panel a few years ago and was sub to Kerr. Has a young family now can't see him committing to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 11, 2019, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
Are there any Aghagallon lads coming through the senior county team? They are one of the upcoming club teams....
They have two fellas up at it who were u21 this year, both players looked average in the u21 championship and were non existent come the knock out stage so I don't know how Lenny can justify a call up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 11, 2019, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
Are there any Aghagallon lads coming through the senior county team? They are one of the upcoming club teams....

3 featured in McKenna Cup, Pat Brannigan, Ruairi McCann and Eunan Walsh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 11, 2019, 02:48:43 PM
Oisin Lennehan is also on the panel but is currently out with an ankle injury
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 11, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 11, 2019, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
Are there any Aghagallon lads coming through the senior county team? They are one of the upcoming club teams....

3 featured in McKenna Cup, Pat Brannigan, Ruairi McCann and Eunan Walsh.

Think Ruairi Mc Cann is from Creggan......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 11, 2019, 10:20:35 PM
There are 2.

1 from Creggan 1 from aghagallon.

Quote from: country bumpkin on January 11, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 11, 2019, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
Are there any Aghagallon lads coming through the senior county team? They are one of the upcoming club teams....

3 featured in McKenna Cup, Pat Brannigan, Ruairi McCann and Eunan Walsh.

Think Ruairi Mc Cann is from Creggan......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2019, 07:31:35 PM
Lots of good sound bites and presentations going about on Gaelfast but does anyone know when the coaches start coaching? the initiative was launched in March 18 and here we are in Jan 19....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2019, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2019, 07:31:35 PM
Lots of good sound bites and presentations going about on Gaelfast but does anyone know when the coaches start coaching? the initiative was launched in March 18 and here we are in Jan 19....

Why not ask your club secretary? They'll have more info on this than most of the posters on here I'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2019, 09:56:26 PM
He s a busy man with no time for spoofers like me !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on January 12, 2019, 10:48:10 PM
Yeah they will probably just keep it all a secret from the public, only letting the club secretary's know. No reason to publicise  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2019, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 12, 2019, 10:48:10 PM
Yeah they will probably just keep it all a secret from the public, only letting the club secretary's know. No reason to publicise  ::)

I was being funny, but a stalker like you could resist ya wally!

The Galefast was very much explained when the post was announced,  but hey carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 14, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
Great win for St Brigids and Antrim yesterday in ulster u21 at Creggan

Some v classy forwards who can hopefully kick on for our County's sake

St Endas game live on TG4?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 14, 2019, 09:10:39 AM
Quote from: Gold on January 14, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
Great win for St Brigids and Antrim yesterday in ulster u21 at Creggan

Some v classy forwards who can hopefully kick on for our County's sake

St Endas game live on TG4?

Yeah TG4 2pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 14, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Great. Other than Galls footballers I cant recall any of our football teams being live on TV
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 14, 2019, 12:45:09 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 14, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Great. Other than Galls footballers I cant recall any of our football teams being live on TV
Linfield be on regularly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 14, 2019, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Gold on January 14, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Great. Other than Galls footballers I cant recall any of our football teams being live on TV

Tommy Murphy final 2008 Antrim 3-12 Wicklow 1-15......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 15, 2019, 09:08:16 AM
Made the trip over to Jtown last night to watch the seniors in a friendly v jtown. Jtown weren't far off full strength with McHugh Karl McK lee Brennan mckinless and a few other notable county players all featuring. However after what I seen last night it might be a long year in division 4. This is what I took from the game:

1. A few players are not upto the standard not naming names but a few players from aghagallon and Ballymena.

2. James Smith from St bridgets was excellent chipping in with 1.4/5 from play and that's with playing a tough ulster match yesterday - we will need him this year.

3. Ricky  J needs to be the county full back

4. Paddy Nugent needs to be number 1

5. We are really struggling at midfield and I feel in a few weeks time Chrissy McK and Bradley could dominate us.

6. Despite setting up defensively still leaked goals and let Jtown walk through the defence. I have no issue with setting up defensively however when attacking antrim did not commit enough players to the attack still holding 2/3 spare men in defence.

Take a chance we cant get relegated from division 4!!   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 15, 2019, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on January 15, 2019, 09:08:16 AM
Made the trip over to Jtown last night to watch the seniors in a friendly v jtown. Jtown weren't far off full strength with McHugh Karl McK lee Brennan mckinless and a few other notable county players all featuring. However after what I seen last night it might be a long year in division 4. This is what I took from the game:

1. A few players are not upto the standard not naming names but a few players from aghagallon and Ballymena.

2. James Smith from St bridgets was excellent chipping in with 1.4/5 from play and that's with playing a tough ulster match yesterday - we will need him this year.

3. Ricky  J needs to be the county full back

4. Paddy Nugent needs to be number 1

5. We are really struggling at midfield and I feel in a few weeks time Chrissy McK and Bradley could dominate us.

6. Despite setting up defensively still leaked goals and let Jtown walk through the defence. I have no issue with setting up defensively however when attacking antrim did not commit enough players to the attack still holding 2/3 spare men in defence.

Take a chance we cant get relegated from division 4!!   

What was the starting team? Or what sort of strength were we fielding?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2019, 12:05:37 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on January 15, 2019, 09:08:16 AM
Made the trip over to Jtown last night to watch the seniors in a friendly v jtown. Jtown weren't far off full strength with McHugh Karl McK lee Brennan mckinless and a few other notable county players all featuring. However after what I seen last night it might be a long year in division 4. This is what I took from the game:

1. A few players are not upto the standard not naming names but a few players from aghagallon and Ballymena.

2. James Smith from St bridgets was excellent chipping in with 1.4/5 from play and that's with playing a tough ulster match yesterday - we will need him this year.

3. Ricky  J needs to be the county full back

4. Paddy Nugent needs to be number 1

5. We are really struggling at midfield and I feel in a few weeks time Chrissy McK and Bradley could dominate us.

6. Despite setting up defensively still leaked goals and let Jtown walk through the defence. I have no issue with setting up defensively however when attacking antrim did not commit enough players to the attack still holding 2/3 spare men in defence.

Take a chance we cant get relegated from division 4!!   

Can't fault your honesty..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2019, 01:12:53 PM
Totally agree. I know we have to defend but jesus who cares if we only score 0-8.

Need to attack in numbers

Few young cracking forwards we need playing like Smith.

Young boy Henvey for Brigids is still in school but scored and involved in all goals the other day. Check the highlights. Need to bring proper forwards through to assist Murray etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2019, 06:31:24 PM
Saw Jose Brolly's son a few years ago and he was a cracker - is he one of the main men in the St Brigids u21 team ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
He's a sub. Still a few years left at u21 though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
He's a sub. Still a few years left at u21 though.

Still a minor, very good, smart on the ball and always talking  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 15, 2019, 09:03:08 PM
Fixtures /CCC meeting last night with clubs proposal some major changes to league and championship structures.
1. Div 1 = SFC , DiV 2 = IFC   DiV 3 = JFC
relegation play offs for losing teams in championship
Losing club relegated.  League football  no bearing on outcome

And / or
Div 2 / 3 winners promoted
Runners up playoff with 2nd bottom team

Proposals to be discussed at next county committee meeting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2019, 10:48:05 PM
V interesting

I like it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 16, 2019, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 15, 2019, 09:03:08 PM
Fixtures /CCC meeting last night with clubs proposal some major changes to league and championship structures.
1. Div 1 = SFC , DiV 2 = IFC   DiV 3 = JFC
relegation play offs for losing teams in championship
Losing club relegated.  League football  no bearing on outcome

And / or
Div 2 / 3 winners promoted
Runners up playoff with 2nd bottom team

Proposals to be discussed at next county committee meeting

My only thing being that i think the championship winner should get promotion so the following year they are playing a grade up. ie if you win JFC you also get promotion to Div 2, if its the same team that win the league then the next team down gets promotion also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 16, 2019, 10:04:09 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 16, 2019, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 15, 2019, 09:03:08 PM
Fixtures /CCC meeting last night with clubs proposal some major changes to league and championship structures.
1. Div 1 = SFC , DiV 2 = IFC   DiV 3 = JFC
relegation play offs for losing teams in championship
Losing club relegated.  League football  no bearing on outcome

And / or
Div 2 / 3 winners promoted
Runners up playoff with 2nd bottom team

Proposals to be discussed at next county committee meeting

My only thing being that i think the championship winner should get promotion so the following year they are playing a grade up. ie if you win JFC you also get promotion to Div 2, if its the same team that win the league then the next team down gets promotion also.

Agree with the promotion option summarised above, they operate a similar system in Tyrone, however the relegation via championship is nonsensical you could hypothetically lose all your league games, get a bye into the quarter final of the championship get beat there and still stay up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on January 16, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
League relegation should only be linked with league performance.
Winning a championship means you should play up the following year eg win JFC play IFC next year.
In Down winning a championship does not gain you league promotion but promotes you up a level for next season's Championship.
In Tyrone winning a championship promotes you for the next year in both Championship level and Division status.

My club Bredagh have won two IFCs recently and have played up in SFC (winning championships is the ultimate goal) but we have not yet managed to get promotion from Div2 to 1, which is where you need to be if you are to compete in the SFC.  You need them competitive games week in week out to improve.  However getting promotion from Div2 is a very difficult task.  Obviously I would say the Tyrone reward system is good.  What do others feel about that? Benefits and downsides?

Also good luck to St Enda's this weekend, some past pupils playing and it will be great to see it on TG4!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on January 16, 2019, 01:07:47 PM
Take it that if passed the above proposals would take effect next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 16, 2019, 04:35:01 PM
No, trying to implement for the incoming season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2019, 07:19:01 PM
Is this is all because st Endas were div 1 and intermediate last year? Can't remember too much talk about it before...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2019, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2019, 07:19:01 PM
Is this is all because st Endas were div 1 and intermediate last year? Can't remember too much talk about it before...

Personally I don't think that was the reason, it's right that clubs do that in fairness though.. be interesting to see (if done when the hurling leagues/championship) if let's say Ballycastle are relegated in hurling and compete in the intermediate hurling championship.. would be a one sided competition in all fairness.

We as a club can't compete in the All Ireland club series for five years (though not sure it's still in place) in hurling so we'll have to compete at a level well above our standard, being a yo-yo club that's not fair also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 16, 2019, 10:51:29 PM
Was the five year rule not reduced by Ulster gaa because lots of teams were being disadvantaged by this rule?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2019, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: delgany on January 16, 2019, 10:51:29 PM
Was the five year rule not reduced by Ulster gaa because lots of teams were being disadvantaged by this rule?

I'm not sure tbh, but it's unfair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 16, 2019, 11:14:48 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2018/03/03/news/controversial-ulster-club-hurling-rule-cut-again---this-time-from-three-years-to-two-1268779/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2019, 11:22:15 PM
Well that makes sense, I like the line about players who are 29/30 and wondering if they'll get to that stage again and retiring before their time!

Ourselves Cloghmills and others of that level will like that move, our current squad will throw their heap into senior championship for two years, that will hopefully bring on their experience at a level and benefit the clubs profile in attracting juveniles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 17, 2019, 08:50:54 AM
a sensible outcome to all of this.

2 years is more a realistic time to be up a grade to see if your capable of holding your own. then you can make the choice to stay or go back down.

id rather clubs tried to stick it out to try and improve themselves as a senior team but for the likes of cloughmills its very difficult due to not having an underage set up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on January 17, 2019, 09:07:24 AM
Has it been the case in Antrim this past while that a football club can just decide at the season's start what championship they want to play in for the year ahead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on January 17, 2019, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 17, 2019, 09:07:24 AM
Has it been the case in Antrim this past while that a football club can just decide at the season's start what championship they want to play in for the year ahead?

Yes. St Edna's playing Intermediate is the one that has currently had a lot of people talking.
Although I know of several times where teams winning the JFC have remained in that grade the following year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 17, 2019, 03:15:26 PM
there is no joking about this situation st endas should be winning this all Ireland. They are a decent division 1 team putting some good performances and results in all year in div 1. The team they play at the weekend are a Division 2 team - people aren't happy with what they have done but it will be even more embarrassing for them if they don't win it now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 17, 2019, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 02:30:44 PM
Glad that divisions will determine your championship. Feel for the Gorts and I suppose everyone else St Enda's beat because being a Div 1 team they robbed the genuine Div 2 clubs of the chance to win their championship but this year a new year and hopefully lessons learned.

Good luck to St Enda's at the weekend though. They should win being a Div 1 team against a Div 2 side. 👀

the year we got to the ulster final against Ballinagh from Cavan they were a Div1 team and had county senior players in their team. It seems to happen not only in our own county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on January 17, 2019, 03:15:26 PM
there is no joking about this situation st endas should be winning this all Ireland. They are a decent division 1 team putting some good performances and results in all year in div 1. The team they play at the weekend are a Division 2 team - people aren't happy with what they have done but it will be even more embarrassing for them if they don't win it now.

Don't talk shit. As said by others division 1 teams from other counties go into this plus it is not like we are a strong football county. The only embarassing thing is your post. Incredibly petty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 17, 2019, 05:28:13 PM
Farset away climb back underneath that rock you came out from under. 🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈


Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 02:30:44 PM
Glad that divisions will determine your championship. Feel for the Gorts and I suppose everyone else St Enda's beat because being a Div 1 team they robbed the genuine Div 2 clubs of the chance to win their championship but this year a new year and hopefully lessons learned.

Good luck to St Enda's at the weekend though. They should win being a Div 1 team against a Div 2 side. 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 17, 2019, 05:29:20 PM
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 only thing embarrassing it's your post. Muppet.


Quote from: belfastsaff on January 17, 2019, 03:15:26 PM
there is no joking about this situation st endas should be winning this all Ireland. They are a decent division 1 team putting some good performances and results in all year in div 1. The team they play at the weekend are a Division 2 team - people aren't happy with what they have done but it will be even more embarrassing for them if they don't win it now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2019, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 05:04:22 PM
We aren't a strong football county??

I think you are confusion club football with County football. Using your logic Tyrone and Donegal teams should be winning Senior, Intermediate and Junior every year.

St Galls over the years and this year arguably Cargin have proved that our clubs are strong or certainly comparable with some of the highest standards.

Every single team that St Enda's have beaten in this championship have been Division 2. That's just a fact. Spideal are too so yes they should win it.

They are favourites but that's based on how they have played, there is no guarantee of course as the Galway champions have beaten all before them.. there is some who feel this is tainted but until it's a rule set in stone with all the counties adhering to it then I've no qualms at all..

Good luck to St Endas, I wish them the very best.. Gorts would have given it a go but would have fallen at the first hurdle I feel.. I don't think you'd have any Gorts men complaining.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 17, 2019, 06:16:30 PM
These are not rules .They are proposals from CCC.
They make a mockery of league football. They have to be discussed at county committee in two weeks.

A Losers championship/knockout  is a poor idea.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 17, 2019, 06:49:56 PM
Broken record. You've made your point. Everyone has heard it. Get over it.

Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: breakingball on January 17, 2019, 05:28:13 PM
Farset away climb back underneath that rock you came out from under. 🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈


Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 02:30:44 PM
Glad that divisions will determine your championship. Feel for the Gorts and I suppose everyone else St Enda's beat because being a Div 1 team they robbed the genuine Div 2 clubs of the chance to win their championship but this year a new year and hopefully lessons learned.

Good luck to St Enda's at the weekend though. They should win being a Div 1 team against a Div 2 side. 👀

What is factually untrue about what I wrote? Or do you just want to insult people who you disagree with.

St Enda's have played Division 2 teams in every single fixture they have played in the championship to date. They play a division 2 club at the weekend too. All facts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on January 17, 2019, 06:54:54 PM
You are wrong.

Senior championship does not equal division 1. They aren't linked like they are in Tyrone.

We had a division 2 teams playing junior with division 3 teams. Didn't hear anyone complain.


Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 06:02:04 PM
Whether or Gorts or Moneyglass (or whoever would have went on to win the Intermediate) would have fallen at the first hurdle is simply subjective and besides the point. St Enda's were the only Division 1 club in the championship lol.

If say Gorts or Moneyglass (choosing these clubs because they were beaten by St Enda's) had have won the county intermediate and been beaten in the first round or the final, then they would be able to look back at it proudly as a club genuinely at that level. The same cannot be said of the men from Glengormely who were playing at a level above EVERYONE to date. That's just a fact, whether the rules allowed them to or not. I'm glad the new rules will address that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2019, 08:15:26 PM
I hear St Johns were totally embarrassed at beating a second division team twice last year in the championship.. had they had won the championship they would have handed back the medals...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 17, 2019, 09:03:51 PM
Quote from: farset on January 17, 2019, 05:04:22 PM
We aren't a strong football county??

I think you are confusion club football with County football. Using your logic Tyrone and Donegal teams should be winning Senior, Intermediate and Junior every year.

St Galls over the years and this year arguably Cargin have proved that our clubs are strong or certainly comparable with some of the highest standards.

Every single team that St Enda's have beaten in this championship have been Division 2. That's just a fact. Spideal are too so yes they should win it.

Cargin haven't done anything outside Ulster. One club have proved themselves to be good. That does not prove our club football to be strong and never has.

Tyrone Donegal etc have lots of strong teams. We have only ever had one. Kilcar , murphy's team and now gweedore have now all threatened or won. . Tyrone club football is an enigma but is much stronger than ours and always has been.

Your embarrassing comment is pathetic. We have a club team doing well and you would have thought people could have been happy for them. How often does any Antrim team do anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2019, 07:12:56 AM
What club are you from Farset?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2019, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2019, 07:12:56 AM
What club are you from Farset?

Farset is on the Springfield rd.. so I'm guessing either the Johnnies or Gorts  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on January 18, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2019, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2019, 07:12:56 AM
What club are you from Farset?

Farset is on the Springfield rd.. so I'm guessing either the Johnnies or Gorts  8)

Or Clonard????? lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2019, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: farset on January 18, 2019, 03:16:30 AM
Broken record or not... The point still stands that they chose to play in a championship below. No amount of feel good factor or name calling will change that.

They play another team from Division two at the weekend. They should win it.

Definitely a broken record.

Sure all division 2 teams are the same standard  :o

The classic damned if they do and damned if they don't kind of post.

Sure they should just pull out of the game now or the other team shouldn't even show up :o

Incredibly bitter viewpoint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2019, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2019, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2019, 07:12:56 AM
What club are you from Farset?

Farset is on the Springfield rd.. so I'm guessing either the Johnnies or Gorts  8)

I only noticed your previous response to Farset, it was a very good question and one that hasn't been answered yet.

County should be getting behind them and hoping they do the job.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on January 18, 2019, 11:11:51 AM
Matching leagues to cships would certainly do away with these sort of conversations occurring but I realise it may present other issues and not everyone will agree regardless. These league mirroring cship ideas have been thrown about board rooms for years. I can't see it changing, as a county we're too divided on our views on this.

Personally I don't see any harm in trialling it for a number of seasons to see how it works. But there has to be no tinkering with leagues for a few years (simple 1 up, 1 down consistently) so teams find their genuine level and then a league matching cship level structure might work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on January 18, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
In Down the senior Championship is Division 1 + top 4 of division 2/top 3 plus intermediate winner if lower than 4th in div2. 

I think the criticism of St Enda's is harsh.  I understand what's being said but the team that they beat in Ulster final (Mullahoran) are in truth a Div1 side (one of the most successful senior clubs in Cavan).  Having not won an Intermediate title and having climbed up the leagues it was probably a natural progression to help bring through the younger players and set the club up as a senior football club for the future.  If we had managed to beat Mullahoran and met St Enda's there would have been no yapping from me about them. In saying that the leagues should be aligned with Championship and that will remove such issues.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Option on January 18, 2019, 11:46:19 AM
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Let's face it - continually taking the bait when farset puts out the stall is only adding to his enjoyment. Been said previously but let him bark at the moon. The sentiment in the county is clear and that is that the reasonable and rationale will support our own as they move into the provincial and national competitions.

Once the 2019 championship draws are made there will be no hiding place for farset.  The veil will shift and we will see whether farset is a champion of a level playing field, fairness and a modern day Luz Long or as I suspect an individual with an unhealthy obsession with St Endas.

Will Farset shift his attention and vitriol to a potentially IFC playing D1 team from the top of the Mona?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on January 18, 2019, 12:16:33 PM
Point of note to Farset. As you know we play the Galway champions on Sunday. The Galway championships are not aligned with league standings either. Oughterard finished 8th in Division 1 in Galway this year and played Intermediate Championship. Just proves that because you play in Divison 1 you will not automatically win an Intermediate Championship as we have discovered throughout the years. We were promoted to Divison 1 in 1989 and for the next 4 years we played Intermediate Championsiup and could not win it before we bit the bullet and moved to play at Senior level in a championship that we were never going to win. Other Division 1 teams have played at IFC level in recent years and it is not just confined to Antrim as shown above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2019, 12:27:06 PM
its clear NE are a coming team - where are they getting the players from? is a school involved or just hard work over a number of years? interested to know.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on January 18, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
Quote from: farset on January 18, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: outinfront on January 18, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
but the team that they beat in Ulster final (Mullahoran) are in truth a Div1 side (one of the most successful senior clubs in Cavan). 

In saying that the leagues should be aligned with Championship and that will remove such issues.

I've heard that argument before about them beating Mullahoran and how much pedigree they have. One. They were a Div 2 team but even if they were at senior standard, all that happened was that two senior teams played against each other and the Antrim senior team won. That proves nothing other than that St Enda's are a capable side.


Your second point is making the point that I have been making all along in that they shouldn't have been in the championship being a Div 1 team.

So to say that the criticism is harsh but agree that championships should be aligned with leagues is a bit contradictory don't you think?

Anyway I'll scuttle off now and stop being a naysayer.


I agree with aligning leagues and championship, removing such issues, and have outlined how it's done in my county.  The more counties where this is the case then the less controversy there can be. This I agree with you on.
I also see that you are stating facts and have no qualms about that either.

Having played against Burt & Donaghmoyne in 2016, Mullahoran this year and St Enda's not so long ago, I do not feel that Enda's are lightyears ahead of this current championship level.  They have performed brilliantly and gone on a great run but on another day they could have been beaten. I said that I would have had no issue with playing them in the Ulster IFC this year, Div1 or not. 

Ok I get what you are saying how this looks contradictory but I just mean that I can see reasons for having done it; the reasons I outlined which aren't in the quote:  Player development, overall club development, not having won an IFC before, Enda's have been on an upward progression and this decision seemed logical, etc. 

I just feel that championship entry should be dictated, therefore there can be no arguments.  I think we agree here yes?

Anyway I'm done with St Enda's, I'm not that big a fan haha!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2019, 01:31:05 PM
Quote from: farset on January 18, 2019, 11:32:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2019, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2019, 07:12:56 AM
What club are you from Farset?

Farset is on the Springfield rd.. so I'm guessing either the Johnnies or Gorts  8)

The same farset River that flows into the Lagan at High Street after flowing through much of Belfast. Good one, Columbo. 😂

Look ill not post again about it but St Enda's heads are buried in the sand and they are pretending here and they all know it. Whatever they achieve will be a hallow victory. You know it and I know and they know know it.

When Ahoghill won the Junior All Ireland, Shamrocks won theirs as well as St Galls won theirs I was a proud Antrim man. I was at Galls two all Ireland finals cheering them on and was also there for Loughiels and Rossas wearing my Antrim colours.

Any time Antrim clubs went out into Ulster and beyond I supported their teams because they were men playing at their level giving it their all. I have nothibg personal against St Enda's people. I know quite a few but their decision to play Intermediate was disengenous. Remember the ONLY club from Div 1 to do so at the expense of Div 2 clubs.

If they win and they should it won't be any significant achievement in my eyes in stark contrast to St Galls footballers was to them or Loughiels was to them or even when St Galls intermediate hurlers getting beaten that time with a certain wee tiny guy as their manager. The difference is that they were all playing according to their Division. Nothing subjective about it at all. Just facts.

Ignore it. Call me a negative begrudger. Say I have an agenda if you want. I don't. I'm just pointing out facts that many people agree with. I hope that the teams who didn't play the system for some hallow victory wins at the weekend and that is the Galway men but they'll be up against it playing against a senior team. It's about fairness and sportmanlike behaviour.

I think everyone from Belfast Knows where the Farset river is, it makes its way from High street up towards the Springfield area.. you also have the Farset centre at the roundabout on the Springfield rd, some posters, (might not be you) will use a name thats may represent them.. Its not unusable to suggest you are from an area where this river flows, now it can't be the Shankill or High street Miss Marple so....

As for the wee tiny guy that got to Croke, you forgot he was also baldy  ;D

St Enda's havent done anything wrong, move on and get on with it, you are waffling on as if you are some sort of saint, hidding behind a keyboard without anyone having a chance to question your moral compass..

I don't think there is a club that hasnt got shit on its shoes!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2019, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 18, 2019, 02:41:03 PM
Belfast - Béal Feirste - The mouth of the Farset.

I think we can gather that he is from Belfast. Nothing else.

However, I find it hard to believe that a river could make its way from High St to the Springfield.

I read that somewhere, not sure to be honest. But he's a bitter man, I gather that much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2019, 10:51:28 AM
All the best to St Endas today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2019, 11:07:38 AM
Yes good luck to the Hightown men, fancy them strongly today to win a tight match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 20, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
What a goal Joe Maskey!!!

Ref is trying to ride St Endas. 3 yellows for f all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 20, 2019, 02:35:33 PM
This ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2019, 05:06:33 PM
Superb performance from St Endas. Well played lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 21, 2019, 09:14:09 AM
well done st endas no surprises  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 21, 2019, 09:26:48 AM
Well done St.Enda's, great result!

All the best for the final.

I assume it'll be televised?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 21, 2019, 01:10:19 PM
I think from past memory its broadcast via TG4 youtube are they not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 21, 2019, 02:38:41 PM
Didn't want to sound mean spirited but there was quite a gap alright - have seen St Enda's a few times this year and they never looked as good as yesterday - sorry just saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 22, 2019, 12:25:09 AM
It was fantastic to see an Antrim football team playing with such abandon

No fear, scowls or head down accepting 2nd best.

We need to have respect for ourselves and each other. Other counties dont let anyone say a bad word about anything to do with their County, let alone their football or hurling teams

Slabbering and doing our own and ourselves down continues that spiral of rubbish.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 22, 2019, 10:00:17 AM
Quote from: Gold on January 22, 2019, 12:25:09 AM
It was fantastic to see an Antrim football team playing with such abandon

No fear, scowls or head down accepting 2nd best.

We need to have respect for ourselves and each other. Other counties dont let anyone say a bad word about anything to do with their County, let alone their football or hurling teams

Slabbering and doing our own and ourselves down continues that spiral of rubbish.


I think there's a difference between slabbering and pointing out that Endas looked comfortably ahead of the competition. You'd see most other matches at this stage have maybe a point or two in it. Frankly, they took their foot of the gas from my perspective and the ref maybe gave them Galway lads a few decisions they probably wouldn't have gotten elsewhere. Sure the 14 should have been off with a black card in the first half when he dragged down 3.

All in all, we can celebrate a title if it comes to it and nobody will begrudge them with other counties known for gaming the system in the same way (Kerry are the worst culprits) but when it comes down to it it's not a competition they should have been in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 22, 2019, 11:08:47 AM
i said previously before in another post the year we got to the same ulster final we got beaten by a Cavan D1 side with county players in it. It is what it is and you just deal with it.

I dont understand the constant begrudging towards St Endas on here at all. it stinks of nothing more than jealously imo.

I for one am glad to see them do so well and fingers crossed win an All Ireland. At a time when our county team cant go any farther in terms of bad results and moral we have one of our own teams in an All Ireland club final but to some its just yet another chance to moan and get digs in at the club.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 22, 2019, 12:09:28 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/summer-of-69-when-the-city-boys-from-belfast-brought-all-ireland-glory-to-antrim-1.3761773

Interesting Read from Saturday's Irish Times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 23, 2019, 05:52:44 PM
any news on Casement due or where is it all at?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: dec on January 23, 2019, 05:58:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2019, 12:09:28 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/summer-of-69-when-the-city-boys-from-belfast-brought-all-ireland-glory-to-antrim-1.3761773

Interesting Read from Saturday's Irish Times.

If I remember correctly Tom Humphries' book Green Fields had a chapter about this team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on January 24, 2019, 09:18:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2019, 12:09:28 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/summer-of-69-when-the-city-boys-from-belfast-brought-all-ireland-glory-to-antrim-1.3761773

Interesting Read from Saturday's Irish Times.

Thanks for the link Bannside. Great read. Oh what could have been!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2019, 12:10:28 PM
Indeed Dec....chapter 5 of particular interest. A terrific read it must be said. MC himself "lent" me the book when our paths crossed with the county under 21s in 2005 and 2006.

On which point Ned, I will contest that the team of 06 could have matched the achievements of 69. We had players like both Mc Canns, Loughrey, Niblock, Andy Mc Clean, Paddy Cunningham, Pollock, and  more than a few other very capable players (at that time Conor Mc Goldrick and David Mc Alernon were as good as any of the above mentioned) who went on to play senior level. Those 6 above were on the field against Kerry's all Ireland winning team in 09, when we put them to the pin of their collar. I will contend till my dying day that the availability of CJ and Crozier (let's not get started on that)  would have been sufficient to get by against Tyrone who beat us by 2 points in Omagh.

We don't need reminding that Tyrone lost by a point to Mayo in extra time, and a lot of that Mayo team have contested 4 or 5 All Ireland finals.

Definitely a very possible All Ireland title where we contrived to beat ourselves off the pitch!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 25, 2019, 01:10:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2019, 12:10:28 PM
Indeed Dec....chapter 5 of particular interest. A terrific read it must be said. MC himself "lent" me the book when our paths crossed with the county under 21s in 2005 and 2006.

On which point Ned, I will contest that the team of 06 could have matched the achievements of 69. We had players like both Mc Canns, Loughrey, Niblock, Andy Mc Clean, Paddy Cunningham, Pollock, and  more than a few other very capable players (at that time Conor Mc Goldrick and David Mc Alernon were as good as any of the above mentioned) who went on to play senior level. Those 6 above were on the field against Kerry's all Ireland winning team in 09, when we put them to the pin of their collar. I will contend till my dying day that the availability of CJ and Crozier (let's not get started on that)  would have been sufficient to get by against Tyrone who beat us by 2 points in Omagh.

We don't need reminding that Tyrone lost by a point to Mayo in extra time, and a lot of that Mayo team have contested 4 or 5 All Ireland finals.

Definitely a very possible All Ireland title where we contrived to beat ourselves off the pitch!!

Not a chance. We might have taken the scalp off of Kerry in the back door, but that final against Tyrone was won by them at a canter. They'd so much take the foot off the gas than they stuck her in neutral and coasted to the end of the match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2019, 04:57:16 PM
You've picked that up incorrectly inabsentia! The All Ireland we conspired to lose was the 2006 All Ireland under 21 series. We had a terrific squad, but ended up losing 0 -13 to 0 -11 in the Ulster semi in Healy Pk, with a couple of players unavailable that in IMO would have tipped the scales in our favour.

Look we will never know for sure but Justin Crozier turned out to be a superb player ( played for Antrim seniors since he was 19) and at 18 CJ was on fire. I'm convinced with those two we would have taken Tyrones scalp and gone on to something memorable.

But it's easy to be wise in hindsight. Outside our own tight group no one else could see that potential at the time. But now, looking back, that indeed was a superb batch and at full strength it would have taken a special team to beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2019, 05:00:42 PM
Moving to the present tense, good luck to Lenny and everyone involved on Sunday. We couldn't have asked for a tougher opener, but let's get behind the boys and hope we can be competitive from the start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 26, 2019, 04:01:45 PM
No Cargin and St Galls players starting tomorrow - can't imagine that's happened in recent history

Are the Cargin boys staying away for a specific reason as a group? There is a St Galls lad in the subs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on January 26, 2019, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2019, 04:57:16 PM
You've picked that up incorrectly inabsentia! The All Ireland we conspired to lose was the 2006 All Ireland under 21 series. We had a terrific squad, but ended up losing 0 -13 to 0 -11 in the Ulster semi in Healy Pk, with a couple of players unavailable that in IMO would have tipped the scales in our favour.

Look we will never know for sure but Justin Crozier turned out to be a superb player ( played for Antrim seniors since he was 19) and at 18 CJ was on fire. I'm convinced with those two we would have taken Tyrones scalp and gone on to something memorable.

But it's easy to be wise in hindsight. Outside our own tight group no one else could see that potential at the time. But now, looking back, that indeed was a superb batch and at full strength it would have taken a special team to beat them.

Tyrone squad who beat you in Ulster semi-final, won Ulster but lost All-Ireland semi-final. And you reckon you conspired to lose the All-Ireland ;D Was at that game in Omagh, Tyrone were poor, Antrim were dort. Tyrone played in second gear.

Jonathan Curran (Coalisland), PJ Quinn (Moortown), Stephen McNulty (Clonoe), Damian Burke (Clonoe), Brendan Boggs (E. R. Uí Néill), Justin McMahon (Omagh), John Gilmore (Cookstown), Raymond Mulgrew (Cookstown), Shane O'Hagan (Clonoe), Marc Cunningham (Killeeshil), Martin McCreesh (Rock), Finbar McGill (An Charraig Mhór), Caolan Tierney (Errigal Ciaran), Colm Cavanagh (Moy), Damian McDermott (Errigal Ciaran), Daren McCann (Errigal Ciaran), Martin Murray (Cookstown), Sean O'Neill (Dromore), Cathal O'Neill (Derrytresk), Ronan McRory (Errigal Ciaran), Cathal McCarron (Dromore), Dean O'Neill (Omagh), Cathal McCarron (Omagh), Niall Kerr (Coalisland), Michael Murphy (Capt.) (Galbally)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2019, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 26, 2019, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2019, 04:57:16 PM
You've picked that up incorrectly inabsentia! The All Ireland we conspired to lose was the 2006 All Ireland under 21 series. We had a terrific squad, but ended up losing 0 -13 to 0 -11 in the Ulster semi in Healy Pk, with a couple of players unavailable that in IMO would have tipped the scales in our favour.

Look we will never know for sure but Justin Crozier turned out to be a superb player ( played for Antrim seniors since he was 19) and at 18 CJ was on fire. I'm convinced with those two we would have taken Tyrones scalp and gone on to something memorable.

But it's easy to be wise in hindsight. Outside our own tight group no one else could see that potential at the time. But now, looking back, that indeed was a superb batch and at full strength it would have taken a special team to beat them.

Tyrone squad who beat you in Ulster semi-final, won Ulster but lost All-Ireland semi-final. And you reckon you conspired to lose the All-Ireland ;D Was at that game in Omagh, Tyrone were poor, Antrim were dort. Tyrone played in second gear.

Jonathan Curran (Coalisland), PJ Quinn (Moortown), Stephen McNulty (Clonoe), Damian Burke (Clonoe), Brendan Boggs (E. R. Uí Néill), Justin McMahon (Omagh), John Gilmore (Cookstown), Raymond Mulgrew (Cookstown), Shane O'Hagan (Clonoe), Marc Cunningham (Killeeshil), Martin McCreesh (Rock), Finbar McGill (An Charraig Mhór), Caolan Tierney (Errigal Ciaran), Colm Cavanagh (Moy), Damian McDermott (Errigal Ciaran), Daren McCann (Errigal Ciaran), Martin Murray (Cookstown), Sean O'Neill (Dromore), Cathal O'Neill (Derrytresk), Ronan McRory (Errigal Ciaran), Cathal McCarron (Dromore), Dean O'Neill (Omagh), Cathal McCarron (Omagh), Niall Kerr (Coalisland), Michael Murphy (Capt.) (Galbally)

As did Dublin when they played Tyrone last year..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on January 26, 2019, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2019, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 26, 2019, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2019, 04:57:16 PM
You've picked that up incorrectly inabsentia! The All Ireland we conspired to lose was the 2006 All Ireland under 21 series. We had a terrific squad, but ended up losing 0 -13 to 0 -11 in the Ulster semi in Healy Pk, with a couple of players unavailable that in IMO would have tipped the scales in our favour.

Look we will never know for sure but Justin Crozier turned out to be a superb player ( played for Antrim seniors since he was 19) and at 18 CJ was on fire. I'm convinced with those two we would have taken Tyrones scalp and gone on to something memorable.

But it's easy to be wise in hindsight. Outside our own tight group no one else could see that potential at the time. But now, looking back, that indeed was a superb batch and at full strength it would have taken a special team to beat them.

Tyrone squad who beat you in Ulster semi-final, won Ulster but lost All-Ireland semi-final. And you reckon you conspired to lose the All-Ireland ;D Was at that game in Omagh, Tyrone were poor, Antrim were dort. Tyrone played in second gear.

Jonathan Curran (Coalisland), PJ Quinn (Moortown), Stephen McNulty (Clonoe), Damian Burke (Clonoe), Brendan Boggs (E. R. Uí Néill), Justin McMahon (Omagh), John Gilmore (Cookstown), Raymond Mulgrew (Cookstown), Shane O'Hagan (Clonoe), Marc Cunningham (Killeeshil), Martin McCreesh (Rock), Finbar McGill (An Charraig Mhór), Caolan Tierney (Errigal Ciaran), Colm Cavanagh (Moy), Damian McDermott (Errigal Ciaran), Daren McCann (Errigal Ciaran), Martin Murray (Cookstown), Sean O'Neill (Dromore), Cathal O'Neill (Derrytresk), Ronan McRory (Errigal Ciaran), Cathal McCarron (Dromore), Dean O'Neill (Omagh), Cathal McCarron (Omagh), Niall Kerr (Coalisland), Michael Murphy (Capt.) (Galbally)

As did Dublin when they played Tyrone last year..

They certainly conspired to win that All-Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 27, 2019, 08:59:22 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 26, 2019, 04:01:45 PM
No Cargin and St Galls players starting tomorrow - can't imagine that's happened in recent history

Are the Cargin boys staying away for a specific reason as a group? There is a St Galls lad in the subs




Not sure enough has been said about this? Questions must be asked .  The two best teams in antrim can only manage 1 sub between them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 27, 2019, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 26, 2019, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2019, 04:57:16 PM
You've picked that up incorrectly inabsentia! The All Ireland we conspired to lose was the 2006 All Ireland under 21 series. We had a terrific squad, but ended up losing 0 -13 to 0 -11 in the Ulster semi in Healy Pk, with a couple of players unavailable that in IMO would have tipped the scales in our favour.

Look we will never know for sure but Justin Crozier turned out to be a superb player ( played for Antrim seniors since he was 19) and at 18 CJ was on fire. I'm convinced with those two we would have taken Tyrones scalp and gone on to something memorable.

But it's easy to be wise in hindsight. Outside our own tight group no one else could see that potential at the time. But now, looking back, that indeed was a superb batch and at full strength it would have taken a special team to beat them.

Tyrone squad who beat you in Ulster semi-final, won Ulster but lost All-Ireland semi-final. And you reckon you conspired to lose the All-Ireland ;D Was at that game in Omagh, Tyrone were poor, Antrim were dort. Tyrone played in second gear.

Jonathan Curran (Coalisland), PJ Quinn (Moortown), Stephen McNulty (Clonoe), Damian Burke (Clonoe), Brendan Boggs (E. R. Uí Néill), Justin McMahon (Omagh), John Gilmore (Cookstown), Raymond Mulgrew (Cookstown), Shane O'Hagan (Clonoe), Marc Cunningham (Killeeshil), Martin McCreesh (Rock), Finbar McGill (An Charraig Mhór), Caolan Tierney (Errigal Ciaran), Colm Cavanagh (Moy), Damian McDermott (Errigal Ciaran), Daren McCann (Errigal Ciaran), Martin Murray (Cookstown), Sean O'Neill (Dromore), Cathal O'Neill (Derrytresk), Ronan McRory (Errigal Ciaran), Cathal McCarron (Dromore), Dean O'Neill (Omagh), Cathal McCarron (Omagh), Niall Kerr (Coalisland), Michael Murphy (Capt.) (Galbally)

Was at this match. Antrim were terrible. Raymond Mulgrew superb for tyrone. Antrim never looked like competing but dragged themaelves to a honourable acoreline
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2019, 10:16:13 AM
Sure Spike! Antrim were 4 down, 3 down and 3 down again, and each time we came back to draw level. Tyrone went 2 up about near the end and we we going strong again at the finish, but the clock ran out. If Justy and CJ had been available (and they should have except for some very poor decision making by people who I'd expected more of) theres more than every chance we would have come out of Healy Park with a result.

But yea Spike, stick to the "we were shit" line. Despite the fact that Tyrone fielded around 10 players who at one stage or another represented Tyrone seniors during their golden era. Were you expecting a nice free flowing game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 27, 2019, 10:54:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 27, 2019, 10:16:13 AM
Sure Spike! Antrim were 4 down, 3 down and 3 down again, and each time we came back to draw level. Tyrone went 2 up about near the end and we we going strong again at the finish, but the clock ran out. If Justy and CJ had been available (and they should have except for some very poor decision making by people who I'd expected more of) theres more than every chance we would have come out of Healy Park with a result.

But yea Spike, stick to the "we were shit" line. Despite the fact that Tyrone fielded around 10 players who at one stage or another represented Tyrone seniors during their golden era. Were you expecting a nice free flowing game?

So 3 other posters (impartial - lets be honest you are not), say the match was rubbish and you describe it as some latter day classic.  Just bringing some realism here.  Take the blinkers off man. The game was rubbish and so were antrim. Tyrone didnt get out of 2nd gear regardless of the obviously superior talent they had on display. Poor match, and a  poor antrim display tbough antrim on paper should have made a better fist of it.  . IF justy and IF Cj......pointless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2019, 06:22:12 PM
All opinions that people are entitled to. I'll continue to disagree wholeheartedly though and maintain that 2006 was a big opportunity missed.

Once again back to the present tense. Today our senior footballers emptied their tank and went toe to toe with our neighbours and hot favourites to win division four. Plenty to like about the way we went about out business, and it was a joy to pull back from three down and go level with a few minutes left.

I think this division is not as cut and dried as people think and Derry in particular will do well to go through undefeated. We really could do with a result in Wexford next Sunday and on today's performance we shouldn't be far off away.

We lost the points today but our pride didn't take a hit in the process which was important.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 27, 2019, 10:11:47 PM
Yes, agreed Bannside. I went along today in trepidation but in truth it was a much more positive performance than I had expected. Very unlucky to not get the draw; thought after the penalty save the ref could have blown and no one too disappointed. Even after their winning point we had two spells of possession but made the wrong decisions on the ball.

But there was much to take heart from. Three of today's games in the division ended in 1 point margins so it's gong to be a tight division. Hopefully the boys take confidence from today into the Wexford game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 29, 2019, 04:43:38 PM
Anyone know when the league and championship fixtures are announced?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 29, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
The league format was agreed last night. Championship draws next  Monday 4th feb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 30, 2019, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 29, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
The league format was agreed last night. Championship draws next  Monday 4th feb

What was agreed on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 30, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 30, 2019, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 29, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
The league format was agreed last night. Championship draws next  Monday 4th feb

What was agreed on?

Div 1  and 2     now 22 league matches   11 @ Home / Away.
11th in div 1   plays second in div 2  promotion/ relegation playoff over two legs

Div 3    18 games
11th in div  2  play 2nd in div 3  playoff

Championship allignment  to leagues in 2020.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2019, 03:39:51 PM
sure about Div 1 football? I heard it's the same as last year / 11 games the split and 5 more games = 16 in total
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 30, 2019, 03:49:48 PM
Div 1 & 2 Fball leagues remain with the split as per last couple of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AggiesTillDeath8 on January 30, 2019, 03:57:28 PM
Alright gents, who were our best  (and worst) performers in the encouraging display against Derry on Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2019, 09:44:40 PM
Just read that the head of the GAA Tom Ryan is worried about an overspend at Casement...is he taking the piss! Or even worse is this the start of the GAA pulling out of casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on February 03, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
3rd of feb and county footballers year is as good as over barring a win or two in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on February 04, 2019, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: breakingball on February 03, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
3rd of feb and county footballers year is as good as over barring a win or two in the qualifiers.

What would the general feeling be for a two tiered championship in Antrim?

Read the article the other day where Declan Lynch was saying the League is the main part of Antrim's season as they aren't going to win Ulster/Sam, it's a sad reality that any ambitions for Antrims season is over already.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on February 04, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
Quote from: toby47 on February 04, 2019, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: breakingball on February 03, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
3rd of feb and county footballers year is as good as over barring a win or two in the qualifiers.

What would the general feeling be for a two tiered championship in Antrim?

Read the article the other day where Declan Lynch was saying the League is the main part of Antrim's season as they aren't going to win Ulster/Sam, it's a sad reality that any ambitions for Antrims season is over already.

To put it in perspective, I don't think we'd won a championship match for about 4-5 years previous to 2009 and then we got to the ulster final. So I'd disagree with the idea of a two tiered championship.

On the other hand, teams seem to have actually progressed in the interim years whereas we've stood still. Some teams have actually regressed, reformed and climbed back up in that time as well.

Is there something we aren't doing? This Gaelfast program can't come fast enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on February 04, 2019, 11:05:58 AM
I believe the antrim team yesterday had 5/6 maximum of the best footballers in county , two johnstones , fitzy ( who didn't start ?) , McBride , murray and delargy. Fine margins it came down to in the derry and yesterdays wexford game hitting the woodwork doesn't help things. Lennie's time has to be up we need something new to get us out of the basement. Seasons over unless we get a good draw in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2019, 12:39:45 PM
Can Lenny be held accountable? He can only work with what he has.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on February 04, 2019, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on February 04, 2019, 11:05:58 AM
I believe the antrim team yesterday had 5/6 maximum of the best footballers in county , two johnstones , fitzy ( who didn't start ?) , McBride , murray and delargy. Fine margins it came down to in the derry and yesterdays wexford game hitting the woodwork doesn't help things. Lennie's time has to be up we need something new to get us out of the basement. Seasons over unless we get a good draw in the qualifiers.

We can't keep going with this managerial roundabout when it's clearly not the issue.
There is no grade where Antrim are competitive in football. They might get the odd year where they catch someone on the bounce at minor, but as a whole it's not something to be relied on.

Starting with the senior team is treating the symptoms rather than the cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2019, 01:52:52 PM
Long drive home especially knowing there was very little between the teams. We had at least equal possession, and had chances to take something from the game, but imo we are missing a few scoring forwards, or players who can score freely from 40 yards. There's not many names I can think of that can do that, although when you see the Sunday Game last night on TV the long distance scores were popping over from everywhere. It's really the only way to break the blanket defence, and Wexfird scored five or six from distance yesterday, and in the end that made the difference.

Heard the St Brigids game was a clinker. They didn't let themselves or the county down...and should use this experience as a platform to start fulfilling their potential at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 04, 2019, 05:46:50 PM
The game is full of players who can't score from 40 yards because the time they spend in the gym is at the expense of time practicing skills including shooting.  I wonder how much time the current squad have spent focusing on shooting and composure, versus time doing fitness?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
100% Spartacus. The same composure we needed last week in the final few minutes against Derry was missing yesterday too. Marquee forwards would lap up those chances....unfortunately they are in short supply atm.

But the effort was good again and some of our play was quite good. We're three or four players short of the type of team needed to win the two we've now lost. Conor Murray and the Healy brothers will offer a welcome boost when they return - all players who can drop a shoulder, take their man on, and pop one or two each over the bar.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 05, 2019, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 30, 2019, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 29, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
The league format was agreed last night. Championship draws next  Monday 4th feb

What was agreed on?

Did this happen last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2019, 11:34:37 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 05, 2019, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 30, 2019, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 29, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
The league format was agreed last night. Championship draws next  Monday 4th feb

What was agreed on?

Did this happen last night

was about to ask this myself. it was supposed to be last night but it doesnt seem to have been done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Megaman on February 05, 2019, 12:48:09 PM
think i read somewhere that that it was put back to Monday 11th.

Not sure where i saw that or who told me or i could be just making it up lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2019, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 05, 2019, 12:48:09 PM
think i read somewhere that that it was put back to Monday 11th.

Not sure where i saw that or who told me or i could be just making it up lol

i had forgot about it competently last night and then today had to do a double check but couldn't see anything at all about it today.

is there a full list anywhere of who is entered what this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 05, 2019, 04:04:50 PM
Naomh Eanna in for the Junior championship?? :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Well it's two div1 teams in the final at Croker, so that should persuade the begrudgers to support St Enda's  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 05, 2019, 07:52:15 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/senior-leagues-are-scheduled-to-commence

Bit of common sense..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: farset on February 05, 2019, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Well it's two div1 teams in the final at Croker, so that should persuade the begrudgers to support St Enda's  ;)

100%. Two teams who used the system to get where they are. Couldn't care who wins the final. Both teams should never have been in it.

I can't see any team in Div 1 this year entering the Intermediate and that's the way it should be.
I think the county fixed that.. will there be any teams from div 2 playing senior?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 05, 2019, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: farset on February 05, 2019, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Well it's two div1 teams in the final at Croker, so that should persuade the begrudgers to support St Enda's  ;)

100%. Two teams who used the system to get where they are. Couldn't care who wins the final. Both teams should never have been in it.

I can't see any team in Div 1 this year entering the Intermediate and that's the way it should be.

😴😴😴
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 06, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Having crossed paths many times over the past few years with St.Enda's at various underage teams I've been involved with I couldn't say a bad word about the club.  Great bunch of coaches and we've always made to feel very welcome.

Best of luck from Aghagallon. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on February 06, 2019, 10:10:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2019, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: farset on February 05, 2019, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Well it's two div1 teams in the final at Croker, so that should persuade the begrudgers to support St Enda's  ;)

100%. Two teams who used the system to get where they are. Couldn't care who wins the final. Both teams should never have been in it.

I can't see any team in Div 1 this year entering the Intermediate and that's the way it should be.

😴😴😴

Well technically the Kerry team didn't 'play' any system as they were not eligible to enter the Kerry SFC.  Enda's (open to criticism) did not break any rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 06, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: outinfront on February 06, 2019, 10:10:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2019, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: farset on February 05, 2019, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Well it's two div1 teams in the final at Croker, so that should persuade the begrudgers to support St Enda's  ;)

100%. Two teams who used the system to get where they are. Couldn't care who wins the final. Both teams should never have been in it.

I can't see any team in Div 1 this year entering the Intermediate and that's the way it should be.

😴😴😴

Well technically the Kerry team didn't 'play' any system as they were not eligible to enter the Kerry SFC.  Enda's (open to criticism) did not break any rules.

But they did break rules. They broke the golden rule of being successful and winning!! Meanwhile jealous clubs slate them..

Nice to see the South West Board giving them a few quid also. We always look after our own down here.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on February 06, 2019, 12:34:55 PM
Kilcummin 1/2  Draw 15/2 Naomh Eanna 2/1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: outinfront on February 06, 2019, 12:34:55 PM
Kilcummin 1/2  Draw 15/2 Naomh Eanna 2/1

I think the bookies have this wrong, the Kerry lads would be slight favs for me but not by much, seems Fitzy and Paddy have them tuned in just right..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 06, 2019, 01:00:09 PM
I heard this morning that both C'Dall & St Endas asked for the throw in times to be moved so supporters could attend both, Croke Park declined.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 06, 2019, 05:48:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 06, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Having crossed paths many times over the past few years with St.Enda's at various underage teams I've been involved with I couldn't say a bad word about the club.  Great bunch of coaches and we've always made to feel very welcome.

Best of luck from Aghagallon.
Aghagallon/Clann Eireann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on February 07, 2019, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 06, 2019, 01:00:09 PM
I heard this morning that both C'Dall & St Endas asked for the throw in times to be moved so supporters could attend both, Croke Park declined.

Its daft Cushendall's is a standalone fixture so could easily have been moved back, even an hour to 2 o'clock would have made attending both possible.

Maybe has to do with the TG4 coverage of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 07, 2019, 08:52:30 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 06, 2019, 05:48:14 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 06, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Having crossed paths many times over the past few years with St.Enda's at various underage teams I've been involved with I couldn't say a bad word about the club.  Great bunch of coaches and we've always made to feel very welcome.

Best of luck from Aghagallon.
Aghagallon/Clann Eireann

:o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 11:00:55 AM
Is the st endas game on anywhere?

I would suspect the other hurling match was on at that time though not sure?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on February 07, 2019, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 11:00:55 AM
Is the st endas game on anywhere?

I would suspect the other hurling match was on at that time though not sure?

Only streaming via TG4 online I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on February 07, 2019, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on February 07, 2019, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 11:00:55 AM
Is the st endas game on anywhere?

I would suspect the other hurling match was on at that time though not sure?

Only streaming via TG4 online I think.

Will most likely streamed live on TG4 you tube channel which means anyone anywhere should be able to watch it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on February 07, 2019, 12:32:05 PM
Intersting quote from Kilcummin member Sean Kelly (former Uachtaran)  who was responsible for awarding Junior and Intermediate finals to Croke Park. He was talking about why Kerry clubs do so well in the Junior and Intermdiate Club All-Ireland.

"Naturally while that's great for Kerry, I thought that it would be more equal that more counties would get the opportunity to be in Croke Park through the clubs.
"But that's the way it worked out. There's a reason for that as Kerry have only eight senior clubs, so therefore we'd be number nine whereas other counties would have 16 or more senior clubs so the intermediate champions would be number 17"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2019, 03:21:14 PM
Good Luck to NE tomorrow - regardless of the rights and wrongs of the grading its great to see an Antrim team in Croker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 08, 2019, 05:53:17 PM
good luck to St Endas. would love to see them win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Johnny McCumiskey on February 08, 2019, 09:33:25 PM
Good luck St Endas in your All Ireland  final tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2019, 07:38:54 AM
Go St Endas. Do yourselves and Antrim proud.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on February 09, 2019, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
Well it's two div1 teams in the final at Croker, so that should persuade the begrudgers to support St Enda's  ;)

There's one word to describe this, but I don't know if it's because of your perfunctory investigation or your biased presentation, the smiley suggests the latter.

P.s. Kilcummin weren't even division 2 champions last year. Now we have a new year and a new club championship.
P.s.s.  The reply options don't have a suitable simley for antrim football today, but one is close...  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 09, 2019, 04:44:57 PM
Mon Endas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
crap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
crap

They need to cover that ball going into to the full forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
That Kevin McCarthy boy would be better than any forward  in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
That Kevin McCarthy boy would be better than any forward  in Antrim.

23 for the Kerry lads is unmarkabke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 09, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Division 1  in Kerry    beginning to show up the difference between the sides. ENDAS making some poor decisions in attack. Rory Scott not on the ball enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 06:04:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 09, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Division 1  in Kerry    beginning to show up the difference between the sides. ENDAS making some poor decisions in attack. Rory Scott not on the ball enough

Huge step up, the big spaces of Croke hasn't worked out in St Endas favour and some poor decision making
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
That McCarthy boy has tore them apart. He's like Clifford was at minor level the other year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 09, 2019, 06:16:23 PM
The bookies had it wrong according to some experts  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 09, 2019, 06:16:23 PM
The bookies had it wrong according to some experts  ::)

Hindsight is a wonderful thing stalker, predicted the other game, can't win them all sweetpea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on February 09, 2019, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 09, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Division 1  in Kerry    beginning to show up the difference between the sides. ENDAS making some poor decisions in attack. Rory Scott not on the ball enough

Only one word now; deranged

Ps. The result shows the level...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 11:33:31 PM
East Kerry senior league team, with the likes of Crokes and Austin Stacks in their league shows what this team is up against every week, few Kerry panellists also.

Finding space and taking their chances they'd have been more than a match for our senior champions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 10, 2019, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: bogieman on February 09, 2019, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 09, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Division 1  in Kerry    beginning to show up the difference between the sides. ENDAS making some poor decisions in attack. Rory Scott not on the ball enough

Only one word now; deranged

Ps. The result shows the level...
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Jog on you  clown       the difference in standards   is clearly evident .   St endas  have taken stick for playing intermediate   but  the Kerry team are not an intermediate team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on February 10, 2019, 08:22:49 AM
Kilcummin were the better team. However endas started the game far too open at the back and left the full backline out to dry for 10 minutes which essentially ended the match. From there on endas had to go for broke. Over time they tired and the ability of the Kerry team enabled them to exploit the spaces and tired legs of endas. Valiant effort all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on February 10, 2019, 09:17:50 AM
I'll complete my last statement, and try and make it as unambiguous as possible;
The result shows the level between a 2018 Div 2 Kerry team and a 2018 Div 1 Antrim team.

Embarrassment had some Antrim men trying to disiguse this fact, whitewashing... some were quite entertaining in the stealth

It's over now, let's move on, I don't want to have to go down a few levels.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2019, 10:32:45 AM
I had never heard of Kevin McCarthy before so didn't realise he actually was a Kerry senior since 2 years ago. Google also threw up a few issues with him which is maybe why we didn't see him last year  ???

Bogieman yesterday just showed Kerry football is better than Antrim football. The main embarrassment is that post - not sure if the parts that make sense or the parts that don't are the most embarrassing.

Great run by stendas. Hopefully they'll push on in the senior championship now. Would be good to see a few teams outside the usual suspects challenging.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 10, 2019, 03:57:19 PM
You can't get relegated form Div 4 ?  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 11, 2019, 08:45:27 AM
championship draws moved again to next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
The few who travelled to support Antrim footballers were put through the entire gamut of emotions yesterday.

Pride at such a gutsy on the front foot effort from the first whistle. Disappointment at not being composed enough to take four or five fairly easy chances that would have given us a proper lead with the wind, especially when we were totally dominating the game.

Anger at the wee useless, completdly out of his depth Sligo referee who played to the home crowd giving Leitrim many soft frees to bring them back into it. He signalled for a superb Ryan Murray point, Neither umpire objected, keeper went to kick the ball out....next thing the wee git got into a conversation on his head set with the LINESMAN, who said it was wide. That's with 5 mins to go with the game in the melting pot. Ryan contested the decision too vigorously for his liking and got a red card. Our best player removed for the final die dog last few minutes.

Declan Lynch was superb throughout, but he contested a debatable foul with the ref who brought the ball forward TWENTY yards, right into the scoring zone. Another point he scored for them.

For the first time ever I met a referee coming off the pitch and called him out for what he was. He got every barrel I had and I can definitely say that if that kind of inept inconsistent refereeing performance was against a team with a large passionate support, he would have needed the guards to get him off the pitch.

A really frustrating day but plenty of positives about the fight and spirit in the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 11, 2019, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
The few who travelled to support Antrim footballers were put through the entire gamut of emotions yesterday.

Pride at such a gutsy on the front foot effort from the first whistle. Disappointment at not being composed enough to take four or five fairly easy chances that would have given us a proper lead with the wind, especially when we were totally dominating the game.

Anger at the wee useless, completdly out of his depth Sligo referee who played to the home crowd giving Leitrim many soft frees to bring them back into it. He signalled for a superb Ryan Murray point, Neither umpire objected, keeper went to kick the ball out....next thing the wee git got into a conversation on his head set with the LINESMAN, who said it was wide. That's with 5 mins to go with the game in the melting pot. Ryan contested the decision too vigorously for his liking and got a red card. Our best player removed for the final die dog last few minutes.

Declan Lynch was superb throughout, but he contested a debatable foul with the ref who brought the ball forward TWENTY yards, right into the scoring zone. Another point he scored for them.

For the first time ever I met a referee coming off the pitch and called him out for what he was. He got every barrel I had and I can definitely say that if that kind of inept inconsistent refereeing performance was against a team with a large passionate support, he would have needed the guards to get him off the pitch.

A really frustrating day but plenty of positives about the fight and spirit in the squad.

Good report. Cheers BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2019, 10:30:09 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 11, 2019, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
The few who travelled to support Antrim footballers were put through the entire gamut of emotions yesterday.

Pride at such a gutsy on the front foot effort from the first whistle. Disappointment at not being composed enough to take four or five fairly easy chances that would have given us a proper lead with the wind, especially when we were totally dominating the game.

Anger at the wee useless, completdly out of his depth Sligo referee who played to the home crowd giving Leitrim many soft frees to bring them back into it. He signalled for a superb Ryan Murray point, Neither umpire objected, keeper went to kick the ball out....next thing the wee git got into a conversation on his head set with the LINESMAN, who said it was wide. That's with 5 mins to go with the game in the melting pot. Ryan contested the decision too vigorously for his liking and got a red card. Our best player removed for the final die dog last few minutes.

Declan Lynch was superb throughout, but he contested a debatable foul with the ref who brought the ball forward TWENTY yards, right into the scoring zone. Another point he scored for them.

For the first time ever I met a referee coming off the pitch and called him out for what he was. He got every barrel I had and I can definitely say that if that kind of inept inconsistent refereeing performance was against a team with a large passionate support, he would have needed the guards to get him off the pitch.

A really frustrating day but plenty of positives about the fight and spirit in the squad.

Good report. Cheers BS

Bar abusing the ref  ;)

Very frustrating as a supporter, there has been some even higher profile games (especially football) that I'm questioning most of the decisions. Must be even worse travelling away to Leitrim and being short changed by the officials (allegedly of course  :o )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 12, 2019, 08:44:30 AM
The really annoying thing was that even allowing for the diabolical referee, we had more than enough chances to put the game out of Sligos reach. A victory would have opened up the league table, and on the grounds that Derry should beat Leitrim, it would mean that we were back in the promotion hunt...especially with London beating Wexford!

We were as good as any of the 3 teams we have played...but both Derry and Leitrim have 6 points, and Antrim have zero!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 12, 2019, 09:56:00 AM
When you aren't taking chances that tells you something about a players ability and in turn the quality of an overall team ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 12, 2019, 04:28:23 PM
Here's last year's Div 1 top 6 in order
1)Creggan
2)NG
3)Cargin
4)NEoin
5)LD
6)PG1

anyone think NEanna will break into this and at who's expense?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 13, 2019, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 12, 2019, 04:28:23 PM
Here's last year's Div 1 top 6 in order
1)Creggan
2)NG
3)Cargin
4)NEoin
5)LD
6)PG1

anyone think NEanna will break into this and at who's expense?

Don't see it. Perhaps PG1 if their trajectory has been stunted somehow.  NEanna were very fit last year and came out of the blocks quickly, expect the same in the league this year but suspect they are way off a senior championship tilt.

ps love Bannside's Antrim optimism, got to give it to the guy, we're bottom of Div 4 and he can still see the bright side. Supporter of the year already!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on February 13, 2019, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 13, 2019, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 12, 2019, 04:28:23 PM
Here's last year's Div 1 top 6 in order
1)Creggan
2)NG
3)Cargin
4)NEoin
5)LD
6)PG1

anyone think NEanna will break into this and at who's expense?

Don't see it. Perhaps PG1 if their trajectory has been stunted somehow.  NEanna were very fit last year and came out of the blocks quickly, expect the same in the league this year but suspect they are way off a senior championship tilt.

ps love Bannside's Antrim optimism, got to give it to the guy, we're bottom of Div 4 and he can still see the bright side. Supporter of the year already!

It's an odd one though isn't it. The bare minimum between two of the better teams and then a bit in it against Wexford who got turned over themselves by London (not as a disservice to London).

Think it's highlighting the inexperience of the squad at the minute. If we were looking at players on the team who would have 20/30+ senior matches under their belt etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 13, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
I would expect St. Endas and St. Brigids to be well prepared for the start of the season, and probably get a few good results early, but I'd be surprised if either finish the season in the top 6. Aghagallon were unlucky to miss out last year and probably wont be far away again. Portglenone have a strong up and coming young team and I would expect them to make the top 6 again. On their day they could beat anyone but it seems they struggle for consistency. They were poor in the championship last year so will be interesting to see if they can kick on this year

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2019, 07:01:14 PM
If Portglenone Aghagallon and St Endas are going to fulfil the potrntial people talk of, well it's time to see tangible evidence of that in 2019. St Brigids possibly in the same boat, they made many admirers in the Creggan tournament and will be desperate not to yo yo down again. The three above first mentioned should each have a target of a top four finish, anything less would be seen as a poor year for them.

Confident that PG1 will indeed make the top four. Then again I'm the eternal optimist lol!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 14, 2019, 11:23:41 AM
I see no-one is predicting anyone slipping out of top 6 !
From what I saw of NG last year their best players were all their oldest players and this can't go on forever. Don't think it will be this year but surely they will need to rebuild at some stage......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2019, 07:31:27 PM
Is the u16 all county football championship a new thing or have I just missed it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2019, 07:44:53 PM
In other years U-16 SW winners played off against SA winners in an all county final ITG.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2019, 07:46:06 PM
Yeah I thought it may have changed last year or two. Looking forward to seeing senior draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on February 18, 2019, 08:29:13 PM
U16 is now working on an all county basis like minor and senior as far as i know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on February 19, 2019, 10:08:59 AM
Any word on league fixtures?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 19, 2019, 11:16:48 AM
Dates for fixtures have been released to clubs but not actual match fixtures !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 25, 2019, 03:43:31 PM
Not a word about the championship draw. Creggan have avoided the big two again for the 2nd year in a row until the final. Seen St Brigids had a very competitive performance against ballinderry in the Ulster league. They are up and coming but a few years down the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
Beat again by a point after having a decent lead up as well :( Disappointing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 02, 2019, 05:04:05 PM
A report says there were 86 spectators at the game. Feel sorry for all division 4 players. GAA is letting them down . Give them a chance to play in Croke Park in a B championship after all they are asked to give the same commitment as division 1 players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleaf93 on March 02, 2019, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 02, 2019, 05:04:05 PM
A report says there were 86 spectators at the game. Feel sorry for all division 4 players. GAA is letting them down . Give them a chance to play in Croke Park in a B championship after all they are asked to give the same commitment as division 1 players.
Surely Waterford v Antrim is exactly the type of fixture we will get in a B championship? Today clearly shows the appetite for such fixtures just isn't there unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 02, 2019, 05:43:10 PM
#buildcasementnow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on March 02, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Waterford are (probably) worst team in the country and they beat us. Another blow.

5 points up after 53 minutes.
20 minutes later we fail to score another point and they tag on 1-3 to win by 1. Shambles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 02, 2019, 08:30:58 PM
Div 2 team according to Bannside  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2019, 09:08:24 PM
Waterford hammered Wexford however we are beginning to look very close to being the worst team in ireland :(

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 03, 2019, 02:15:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 02, 2019, 09:08:24 PM
Waterford hammered Wexford however we are beginning to look very close to being the worst team in ireland :(

We are the worst team in Ireland.

Do what you've always done, and you'll get what you always got.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2019, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: oakleaf93 on March 02, 2019, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 02, 2019, 05:04:05 PM
A report says there were 86 spectators at the game. Feel sorry for all division 4 players. GAA is letting them down . Give them a chance to play in Croke Park in a B championship after all they are asked to give the same commitment as division 1 players.
Surely Waterford v Antrim is exactly the type of fixture we will get in a B championship? Today clearly shows the appetite for such fixtures just isn't there unfortunately
What would you do then to motivate Div 4 players? Just leave as is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2019, 10:18:45 AM
Ok so bring in a new management team, all the latest vibrant training techniques and stat analysis with gps systems and we'll still be were we are because, all that stuff means feck all as we don't have the players!

Our squad is what's available and there is nothing out there at the moment to improve it. There is something wrong at the source that's not able to produce county standard players!

Those areas need fixing first before we start blaming players management and the volunteers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on March 04, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
Surly Lenny cannot get another year ? Yes it might not all be his fault but he has to take some of the blame and without naming players some of them shouldn't be n the squad never mind the starting 15. He might not have the best players available but its quite obvious he doesn't know how to manage these players as a group and having them play together - also his tactics stink 2 sweepers and a 'blocker' I've never heard the likes of it no sympathy for him if he is going to try and play football like that. I went over to watch them against the POLY and made my views clear we wouldn't get anywhere and I was right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 05, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 04, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
Surly Lenny cannot get another year ? Yes it might not all be his fault but he has to take some of the blame and without naming players some of them shouldn't be n the squad never mind the starting 15. He might not have the best players available but its quite obvious he doesn't know how to manage these players as a group and having them play together - also his tactics stink 2 sweepers and a 'blocker' I've never heard the likes of it no sympathy for him if he is going to try and play football like that. I went over to watch them against the POLY and made my views clear we wouldn't get anywhere and I was right.


Lenny will get another year coz he's cheap and he cant get relegated.

Maybe someone at county board level should ask themselves why the best players in the county are not offering themselves to play for the county. Damning indictment of  the set up.  As PJ just said 'Do what you've always done, and you'll get what you always got'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2019, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 05, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 04, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
Surly Lenny cannot get another year ? Yes it might not all be his fault but he has to take some of the blame and without naming players some of them shouldn't be n the squad never mind the starting 15. He might not have the best players available but its quite obvious he doesn't know how to manage these players as a group and having them play together - also his tactics stink 2 sweepers and a 'blocker' I've never heard the likes of it no sympathy for him if he is going to try and play football like that. I went over to watch them against the POLY and made my views clear we wouldn't get anywhere and I was right.


Lenny will get another year coz he's cheap and he cant get relegated.

Maybe someone at county board level should ask themselves why the best players in the county are not offering themselves to play for the county. Damning indictment of  the set up.  As PJ just said 'Do what you've always done, and you'll get what you always got'

Who are these better players Spike? Have they refused to play? Wasted their chance to play for their county?

Teams/players  are doing the usual nowadays, if we don't like the set up they don't bother.

If they (whoever they are, as I'm keen to know) turned up and committed would we be any better?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 05, 2019, 09:37:49 PM
The apathy towards the county board and the county team will never change in some sections of the county. People see another West Belfast man being appointed county manager and decide f**k it, I'm
not playing, it'll be the same as the last time and they are proven correctly.
The county teams playing in Corrigan when Creggan could of held a NFL/NHL game for instance, are we promoting GAA in the country? What kinda signals is that sending to country gaels? Again, those with an agenda can use that as a vehicle to spout.

I don't know what players are better or worse than those already there but surely we are better than we are showing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2019, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 05, 2019, 09:37:49 PM
The apathy towards the county board and the county team will never change in some sections of the county. People see another West Belfast man being appointed county manager and decide f**k it, I'm
not playing, it'll be the same as the last time and they are proven correctly.
The county teams playing in Corrigan when Creggan could of held a NFL/NHL game for instance, are we promoting GAA in the country? What kinda signals is that sending to country gaels? Again, those with an agenda can use that as a vehicle to spout.

I don't know what players are better or worse than those already there but surely we are better than we are showing.

Are we? We can only play with what's available. These lads have committed. The ones that I've yet to hear about that are so much better,  (but clearly not  interested) I'd like to hear.

The expensive option will improve what? We'd still have the same players interested in putting on the Saffron top.

The Dub manager wouldn't be able to improve our worth, unless he brings up his dub reserves.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 05, 2019, 11:22:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2019, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 05, 2019, 09:37:49 PM
The apathy towards the county board and the county team will never change in some sections of the county. People see another West Belfast man being appointed county manager and decide f**k it, I'm
not playing, it'll be the same as the last time and they are proven correctly.
The county teams playing in Corrigan when Creggan could of held a NFL/NHL game for instance, are we promoting GAA in the country? What kinda signals is that sending to country gaels? Again, those with an agenda can use that as a vehicle to spout.

I don't know what players are better or worse than those already there but surely we are better than we are showing.

Are we? We can only play with what's available. These lads have committed. The ones that I've yet to hear about that are so much better,  (but clearly not  interested) I'd like to hear.

The expensive option will improve what? We'd still have the same players interested in putting on the Saffron top.

The Dub manager wouldn't be able to improve our worth, unless he brings up his dub reserves.

You're right we can only play with who makes themselves available. Maybe the more expensive option would make it more attractive to play for the county.

Same oul sh!t year in and year out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 06, 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Maybe the more expensive option would make it more attractive to play for the county.

How? What could be done that isn't being done? Really? I can think of absolutely nothing and certainly nothing that would stop a fella committing. Have you any examples of how spending more money on the team set up would attract the mythical better players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 06, 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Maybe the more expensive option would make it more attractive to play for the county.

How? What could be done that isn't being done? Really? I can think of absolutely nothing and certainly nothing that would stop a fella committing. Have you any examples of how spending more money on the team set up would attract the mythical better players?

Maybe going for the more expensive option would show the county are ambitious instead of appointing the same sort of manager that we always go for, a cheap option.

I'm not having a pop at Lenny here either. He man enough to put his name forward for the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 06, 2019, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2019, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 05, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 04, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
Surly Lenny cannot get another year ? Yes it might not all be his fault but he has to take some of the blame and without naming players some of them shouldn't be n the squad never mind the starting 15. He might not have the best players available but its quite obvious he doesn't know how to manage these players as a group and having them play together - also his tactics stink 2 sweepers and a 'blocker' I've never heard the likes of it no sympathy for him if he is going to try and play football like that. I went over to watch them against the POLY and made my views clear we wouldn't get anywhere and I was right.


Lenny will get another year coz he's cheap and he cant get relegated.

Maybe someone at county board level should ask themselves why the best players in the county are not offering themselves to play for the county. Damning indictment of  the set up.  As PJ just said 'Do what you've always done, and you'll get what you always got'

Who are these better players Spike? Have they refused to play? Wasted their chance to play for their county?

Teams/players  are doing the usual nowadays, if we don't like the set up they don't bother.

If they (whoever they are, as I'm keen to know) turned up and committed would we be any better?

Quick test MR - run your eye down both the Cargin & St Galls teamsheets from the 2018 county semi final and tell me what players are better than what we have in the county squad at the moment. 
Quick hint - a combo of non-county players from those two club sides sides would beat our current county team. Our county champions representation is nothing short of shameful from the county boards perspective.  where else would it be allowed to happen? why is it always the stay-aways fault?

Sure the Antrim County Footballer advert sells itself:

1) Guaranteed Division 4 football every year - and that's a promise!
2) Same day return on Air conditioned bus for cold February trips to Waterford
3) Early wake up call for day trips. *02 to 02 Networks Only*
4) Expenses treated on a 'paid when paid' basis
5) No overseas trips - help the environment!
6) If injured on duty, we will help you fill your forms out so you can claim off clubs insurance!
7) Free tickets to national league Division 4 games. (Limited to 2 per player) *may be subject to checks*
8) Guaranteed visit to two away County Grounds each championship season *Note this may increase if win in qualifiers. Unlikely*
9) Guaranteed West Belfast Manager with no intercounty experience - You learn as he learns - double bonus! One on one coaching as we limit amount of 'hanger ons' like physios, doctors, assistant managers, coaches, Trainers etc etc
10) To progress you train on your own - save the County Board money so they can invest in a new stadium / stand / county ground / addiction recovery / other ventures undisclosed. Individual training helps build mental strength!
11) You can visit GAA and Antrim County's greatest White Elephant  - Dunsilly - where you can park and view (for a brief period) *stay off the grass*
12) In case it is actually used, you are entitled to a free bus ticket from Enkalon Industrial Estate Car Park to Dunsilly if crowd more than 10 people.  *u16 matches only*
13) One free pass each season to visit the wild grasslands of Casement. *No photography allowed* *No friends or family allowed*
14) Free Soup and Sandwich with every away trip *water excluded* *if under 18, sandwich excluded*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 06, 2019, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 06, 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Maybe the more expensive option would make it more attractive to play for the county.

How? What could be done that isn't being done? Really? I can think of absolutely nothing and certainly nothing that would stop a fella committing. Have you any examples of how spending more money on the team set up would attract the mythical better players?

Maybe going for the more expensive option would show the county are ambitious instead of appointing the same sort of manager that we always go for, a cheap option.

I'm not having a pop at Lenny here either. He man enough to put his name forward for the job.

Lenny is a bit of a victim of past regimes. He ticks all the boxes for the typical Antrim manager that has brought zero success down for generations.  Quite simply, after years of service, how could we expect players to turn up for more of the same guff in Div 4?  Things wont ever change until the county board out their hand in their pocket, provide for and make it attractive to play for Antrim again.  How long will it take for Fitz, McBride and the Murrays to get fed up and decide to concentrate on their family lives and club careers than with antrim county?   It must be fairly disheartening for those boys when you play local club sides with better players than your county teammates. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on March 06, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
Its the county boards fault  >:(
Its Lenny's fault  >:(
Its the stay away players fault  >:(

What in the name of fcuk is wrong with us in this county with the endless blame game.

Perhaps, as a whole, the football (and indeed players) in this county are not as good as we would like to believe. Back to basics and improve fundamental coaching at undergrad and 'build' better players. Its a long term strategy and you won't see any fruits of it for 5-10 years (at least).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 06, 2019, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 06, 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Maybe the more expensive option would make it more attractive to play for the county.

How? What could be done that isn't being done? Really? I can think of absolutely nothing and certainly nothing that would stop a fella committing. Have you any examples of how spending more money on the team set up would attract the mythical better players?

Maybe going for the more expensive option would show the county are ambitious instead of appointing the same sort of manager that we always go for, a cheap option.

I'm not having a pop at Lenny here either. He man enough to put his name forward for the job.

Lenny is a bit of a victim of past regimes. He ticks all the boxes for the typical Antrim manager that has brought zero success down for generations.  Quite simply, after years of service, how could we expect players to turn up for more of the same guff in Div 4?  Things wont ever change until the county board out their hand in their pocket, provide for and make it attractive to play for Antrim again.  How long will it take for Fitz, McBride and the Murrays to get fed up and decide to concentrate on their family lives and club careers than with antrim county?   It must be fairly disheartening for those boys when you play local club sides with better players than your county teammates.

Quote from: cfclg on March 06, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
Its the county boards fault  >:(
Its Lenny's fault  >:(
Its the stay away players fault  >:(

What in the name of fcuk is wrong with us in this county with the endless blame game.

Perhaps, as a whole, the football (and indeed players) in this county are not as good as we would like to believe. Back to basics and improve fundamental coaching at undergrad and 'build' better players. Its a long term strategy and you won't see any fruits of it for 5-10 years (at least).

If any one wants to talk about the state of the current county team they need only look back to last year's county final.

One of the worst displays of football and coaching from both sides. Both set ups being heavily invested in and yet come up with that unbelievable spectacle of a game.

Supposedly the two best teams in the county and neither could muster 5 minutes of actual football in the game. The problem runs a lot deeper than who the current county manager is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on March 06, 2019, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 06, 2019, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2019, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 05, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 04, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
Surly Lenny cannot get another year ? Yes it might not all be his fault but he has to take some of the blame and without naming players some of them shouldn't be n the squad never mind the starting 15. He might not have the best players available but its quite obvious he doesn't know how to manage these players as a group and having them play together - also his tactics stink 2 sweepers and a 'blocker' I've never heard the likes of it no sympathy for him if he is going to try and play football like that. I went over to watch them against the POLY and made my views clear we wouldn't get anywhere and I was right.


Lenny will get another year coz he's cheap and he cant get relegated.

Maybe someone at county board level should ask themselves why the best players in the county are not offering themselves to play for the county. Damning indictment of  the set up.  As PJ just said 'Do what you've always done, and you'll get what you always got'

Who are these better players Spike? Have they refused to play? Wasted their chance to play for their county?

Teams/players  are doing the usual nowadays, if we don't like the set up they don't bother.

If they (whoever they are, as I'm keen to know) turned up and committed would we be any better?

Quick test MR - run your eye down both the Cargin & St Galls teamsheets from the 2018 county semi final and tell me what players are better than what we have in the county squad at the moment. 
Quick hint - a combo of non-county players from those two club sides sides would beat our current county team. Our county champions representation is nothing short of shameful from the county boards perspective.  where else would it be allowed to happen? why is it always the stay-aways fault?

Sure the Antrim County Footballer advert sells itself:

1) Guaranteed Division 4 football every year - and that's a promise!
2) Same day return on Air conditioned bus for cold February trips to Waterford
3) Early wake up call for day trips. *02 to 02 Networks Only*
4) Expenses treated on a 'paid when paid' basis
5) No overseas trips - help the environment!
6) If injured on duty, we will help you fill your forms out so you can claim off clubs insurance!
7) Free tickets to national league Division 4 games. (Limited to 2 per player) *may be subject to checks*
8) Guaranteed visit to two away County Grounds each championship season *Note this may increase if win in qualifiers. Unlikely*
9) Guaranteed West Belfast Manager with no intercounty experience - You learn as he learns - double bonus! One on one coaching as we limit amount of 'hanger ons' like physios, doctors, assistant managers, coaches, Trainers etc etc
10) To progress you train on your own - save the County Board money so they can invest in a new stadium / stand / county ground / addiction recovery / other ventures undisclosed. Individual training helps build mental strength!
11) You can visit GAA and Antrim County's greatest White Elephant  - Dunsilly - where you can park and view (for a brief period) *stay off the grass*
12) In case it is actually used, you are entitled to a free bus ticket from Enkalon Industrial Estate Car Park to Dunsilly if crowd more than 10 people.  *u16 matches only*
13) One free pass each season to visit the wild grasslands of Casement. *No photography allowed* *No friends or family allowed*
14) Free Soup and Sandwich with every away trip *water excluded* *if under 18, sandwich excluded*

Best post in a long time....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2019, 09:07:26 PM
Best post? f**k!

Talking about dads army match with players who have been there done it with Antrim and have no intention of playing again and with the effort they put into the cause means they owe the county nothing.

Listing stuff that's not exactly true but sure carry on, completely delusional about what a county executive can actually afford. Paying a management team plus all your perks would cost what Spike? You seem to have a fantastically view of how the county (this country) can afford half the crap that you spelled out there.

Again list me these real available players that you keep going on about or shut up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 07, 2019, 06:14:38 AM
Just keep blaming the stay aways MR.......backing up your paymasters the establishment again.

27 and 28 year old players are dads army???    With respect, even looking at the guys in their early to mid thirties, counties like ours cant afford to let them drift away so more should be done to accomodate them.  Theyre not staying away because of the shift they put in before, they're staying away because it was rubbish before and they cant stand to.waste more of their valuable time continuing that rubbish.  Im guessing you never represented the county so you maybe dont understand whats involved.   You're 'love of the jersey is enough' stuff is 70's thinking from some genius down the casement social club.  come into this century please. Yesterdays man.

Anything ive mentioned is the MINIMUM for a county set up. We've no pitch, (actually used) centre of excellence and a manager on two bob and a free tracksuit 5 mins from casement park coz he's handy.

We're getting what we put in at the moment. Viscous cycle due to lack of investment.

Step back and look at the big picture - no ground, no actually used centre of excellence, no club ground with a stand, poor attendances, poor brand of football, poor underage teams, and div 4 football to watch......and somehow the head men in the county are blameless and its other peoples fault?

Start with some pride - thats free alongside hope and aspiration - theyre free too.  A top man to instill, drive and develop that - unfortunately he's not free

Positives are we have a large population  - somehow that needs to be dipped into and nurtured. That takes work, time, marketing  and good sense.   Antrim love trying to take cheap shortcuts and the easy road every....single....time.  That has to change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2019, 07:47:58 AM
Not blaming the stay always as such you just haven't yet mentioned any actual players who are willing to play! It's a strange one..

Also explain to us where we get the money from to transform Antrim?

Get your head out of the fiction books and deal with the reality.

Give me a list of of how we can go forward with your plans and I'll listen.

As for not playing senior county (along with 95% of the club players in the county) that means what? I did play juvenile county hurling but hey that was a hundred years ago  ;D

I've had more run ins with the county as a player and as manager so I wouldn't be high on their best friends list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2019, 07:53:52 AM
I'd like to correct a few points that have been made here recently, and the biggest one is that the funding allocated for the running of senior football is inadequate or that the county are cheapskating in any way. That assumption is well wide of the mark. The players are exceptionally well treated and get everything inter county players are entitled to, gear, meals, travelling expenses, food, proper hotels and travel etc etc. Lenny has access to excellent "county board" support throughout, and has the team built around him (support staff) where and when he needs it. To say otherwise is cheap and unfounded, and needs challenged.

Lenny put his hand up for this gig and has got it mostly on his own terms. I've spoken to him occasionally and he bleeds Saffron like us all, and is putting in serious work behind the scenes. He has invested serious energy in this, and to be fair, the players are all in agreement that the set up is by some distance the most professional they've seen to date.

Look, every team has a bad day at the office, and hopefully Waterford was that. In Leitrim they are 5/5, promoted and there's a real buzz. We are better than them, and I've no doubt whatsoever about that. We were every bit as good as Derry all over the pitch. Both those teams are now promoted.

Having said that, last Saturday was a disaster and being 5 points up, Lenny needs to ask himself the question why he decided to throw on four rookies in the last 15 minutes where the game was lost. Definitely not his finest ever game management it needs to be said. That was a time for experienced heads to be on the pitch. Hopefully valuable lessons learnt.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 07, 2019, 09:07:50 AM
MR you wont/dont listen.  You want better players for the county - go and beg and cajole cargin and st galls players to turn up. You want to see better football, go and get better managers. You want better underage players, dip your hand in your pocket and invest in coaching and facilities. The fermanaghs, leitrims, longfords, wexfords, wicklows of this world all manage to do it for at least one of their codes and we're twice the size of them!!
You're the only man on here that gets paid remuneration by the county board for services rendered - id say that tinges you with bias towards your paymasters.

BS, with respect, (and i do respect your opinion) Lenny was the cheap managerial option of the candidates that stood so please dont patronise us with all this intangible 'behind the scenes' guff and supportive board. Thats like me saying im supportive to hmrc  when i send my money to vat man on time. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2019, 10:24:34 AM
Spike I feel your hurt more than you know. Problem is we need hundreds hurting and tbh across the county there's not too many losing sleep over how our county footballers are performing.

Also, a bit of debate here (or anywhere) is worthwhile as long as it's subjective and for the right reasons. Trust me, nearly everyone that is remotely interested does consult this forum on a regular basis, so it's a reasonable platform for measured debate.

It is or will be a matter of public record that the budget for preparation of senior football is vastly improved in the last few years. YES, traditionally that was a problem, but generally there's enough in the pot now to ensure that we really can't harp on that the reason we are still underachieving is because of lack of finance. We don't have trips to La Manga or cars for each player, but all reasonable financial bases are covered.... and I'm not being patronising by pointing that out. So for now we can remove that from the list of excuses we continually churn out.

Lenny's programme and wish list wasn't coming in noticeably cheaper than the other candidates. He has a few months left this year to show us what he is building, and hopefully that's two good wins in the league and a competitive run or two in the qualifiers. In the meantime we should get behind him and ensure we all do what we can to get the county's best players out wearing Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on March 07, 2019, 11:02:56 AM
Spike - Reply #17687
Best post ? My bollocks !

I would think bannside is pretty close to the mark with his corrective post.

Anyways, antrim are where the are now, and that is bottom.

The main stakeholders are made up of four groups; players, management and backroom, fans and county board. During my time in antrim, the players have changed, the management has changed, the fans have dwindled, and the county board have cosmetically changed.

So for me the common denominator to the dire situation is the culture remains the same. As with most, but unfortunately not all, volunteers, credit must be given to the guys who step up to the plate at all levels within the county and club organisation. But, here's the thing, until there is a step change in culture, it will likely stay the same.

Where will the step change come from, that's like a secret any successful organisation already knows, and most folks think it can be bought; it can't for most, and there is nobody coming up from croke, and also, nobody actually wants the Midas Touch...
Most of it is called work; shoulders to the wheel, pulling on the oars, planning, organisation, management, leadership, gratitude and comradery.
The rest is a bit of magic; where from ? Je ne sais pas. Perhaps from a positive and coherent culture, where all involved retrospect instead of complaining and criticising.

When the stakeholders jell using effective teams and the "magic" formula balances, then there may be a new quantum state created with natural stoichiometry, and successful may follow.

So, ostracise the negativity, not the individuals and create positivity, it's about evolution, not revolution.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on March 07, 2019, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 07, 2019, 10:24:34 AM
Spike I feel your hurt more than you know. Problem is we need hundreds hurting and tbh across the county there's not too many losing sleep over how our county footballers are performing.

Also, a bit of debate here (or anywhere) is worthwhile as long as it's subjective and for the right reasons. Trust me, nearly everyone that is remotely interested does consult this forum on a regular basis, so it's a reasonable platform for measured debate.

It is or will be a matter of public record that the budget for preparation of senior football is vastly improved in the last few years. YES, traditionally that was a problem, but generally there's enough in the pot now to ensure that we really can't harp on that the reason we are still underachieving is because of lack of finance. We don't have trips to La Manga or cars for each player, but all reasonable financial bases are covered.... and I'm not being patronising by pointing that out. So for now we can remove that from the list of excuses we continually churn out.

Lenny's programme and wish list wasn't coming in noticeably cheaper than the other candidates. He has a few months left this year to show us what he is building, and hopefully that's two good wins in the league and a competitive run or two in the qualifiers. In the meantime we should get behind him and ensure we all do what we can to get the county's best players out wearing Saffron.

Don't believe you can. We have improved our investment, but are we still lagging behind other counties? That's the benchmark. I know that Down's investment in the senior team has gone up in the past year. So even though they have fallen to Div 3, the county have stepped up their game in regards to support to the program. This is the  critical point. We need Antrim leading and being innovative, not being 5 years behind the rest of the country.

We need a two pronged approach. You have to start with the youth and the senior team at the same time.

We need to maximise our current league position which will give the footballers a better platform to improve the county's standing in the future. There is no reason why Antrim shouldn't be performing to the same level as Fermanagh, Sligo etc

Youth wise, we need a better development approach, one that is not a cookie cutter program, but one tailored to Antrim's needs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 07, 2019, 11:25:32 AM
BS, That's fine and a measured response so thank you.

You're right also that it does turn my gut to see that Antrim team on the field, ploughing away in Div 4 and more than slightly frustrating.  I sincerely hope that the county board are backing the manager (ill take your word that they are), as they rightly should be. 

Antrim have a huge image problem at the moment, allied to their morose fortunes.  A lot of people don't, wont, cant engage with the county set up and see it as an old boys clubs, a collection of unknown average talent or a West Belfast harem with poor facilities, poor product, poor facilities and amateur set up.  Rugby and soccer are encroaching in traditional GAA areas and the line often spouted is that the facilities, organisation of matches, welfare and benefits all are on an upper level to that which the majority of Antrim clubs and county offer.  And they engage with the player and their family, make them feel wanted, whereas the GAA has an air that you're expected to do your bit 'just coz'

We have to raise our game (no pun intended), in all sectors. Antrim county needs to be the pinnacle of a players career not a box ticking exercise.  The huge visual image problems of Dunsilly and Casement need sorted. A County ground needs picked and a stand built asap whether (depending on point of view & for hurlers too) that be Dunsilly, Ballymena, Ahoghill, Cargin, St Endas, Creggan, Portglenone, Hannahstown, Dunloy or Corrigan. The debate needs to start as we cant continue looking like beggars and vagabonds.  Casement isn't just a county disgrace, its now a national disgrace.

Fundraising needs a book written about it, underage structures and a top/proven/known/successful manager are now necessities.  We're in a dangerous viscous cycle of underperformance.

The straight road isn't always the easiest way, Antrim cant afford to take shortcuts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on March 07, 2019, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 06, 2019, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 06, 2019, 09:51:14 AM
Maybe the more expensive option would make it more attractive to play for the county.

How? What could be done that isn't being done? Really? I can think of absolutely nothing and certainly nothing that would stop a fella committing. Have you any examples of how spending more money on the team set up would attract the mythical better players?

Maybe going for the more expensive option would show the county are ambitious instead of appointing the same sort of manager that we always go for, a cheap option.

I'm not having a pop at Lenny here either. He man enough to put his name forward for the job.

Lenny is a bit of a victim of past regimes. He ticks all the boxes for the typical Antrim manager that has brought zero success down for generations.  Quite simply, after years of service, how could we expect players to turn up for more of the same guff in Div 4?  Things wont ever change until the county board out their hand in their pocket, provide for and make it attractive to play for Antrim again.  How long will it take for Fitz, McBride and the Murrays to get fed up and decide to concentrate on their family lives and club careers than with antrim county?   It must be fairly disheartening for those boys when you play local club sides with better players than your county teammates.

Quote from: cfclg on March 06, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
Its the county boards fault  >:(
Its Lenny's fault  >:(
Its the stay away players fault  >:(

What in the name of fcuk is wrong with us in this county with the endless blame game.

Perhaps, as a whole, the football (and indeed players) in this county are not as good as we would like to believe. Back to basics and improve fundamental coaching at undergrad and 'build' better players. Its a long term strategy and you won't see any fruits of it for 5-10 years (at least).

If any one wants to talk about the state of the current county team they need only look back to last year's county final.

One of the worst displays of football and coaching from both sides. Both set ups being heavily invested in and yet come up with that unbelievable spectacle of a game.

Supposedly the two best teams in the county and neither could muster 5 minutes of actual football in the game. The problem runs a lot deeper than who the current county manager is.

Interesting reading folks. On last years county final, it was crap. Creggan playing 3 sweepers for an entire match, even when loosing, dictated the nature of the game. Couldn't get over them standing inside the 45 in the last 15 mins when they were loosing the game. However to pick out a game and  to suggest that represents us (Antrim) is bollix, where you at the semi final when St Galls played Cargin, one of the best games of football I have seen in a long long time. Quality football from both teams. Cargin put it up to gweedore in the Ulster club, infact there were 2 in it with 3 mins to go. Dweedore eventually won it, so prespective NAG


Antrim are better than this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2019, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 07, 2019, 09:07:50 AM
MR you wont/dont listen.  You want better players for the county - go and beg and cajole cargin and st galls players to turn up. You want to see better football, go and get better managers. You want better underage players, dip your hand in your pocket and invest in coaching and facilities. The fermanaghs, leitrims, longfords, wexfords, wicklows of this world all manage to do it for at least one of their codes and we're twice the size of them!!
You're the only man on here that gets paid remuneration by the county board for services rendered - id say that tinges you with bias towards your paymasters.

BS, with respect, (and i do respect your opinion) Lenny was the cheap managerial option of the candidates that stood so please dont patronise us with all this intangible 'behind the scenes' guff and supportive board. Thats like me saying im supportive to hmrc  when i send my money to vat man on time.

I get expenses to referee our games, the car won't drive without fuel, but hey you're a smart guy, you'd know that.. I've no bias even with Lenny, a clubman at the wheel who was manager or our club at the time I looked after our hurlers..

I'm dealing with facts, we don't have the talent yet to compete, a young up and coming manager with the funds that were available would have not been able to entice these footballers you are going on about (or not, beingthe case)

The only bias on here is wanting to have a S/W man at the wheel, It makes no difference who's at the wheel, when Baker took the team we ad a group of lads that were at their peak, the same lads you talk about from the Galls Cargin game, what year was that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 07, 2019, 04:42:42 PM
Id settle for a great manager from anywhere. Maybe we've just been picking all the wrong ones as past century and theyve all coincidentally been from west belfast.  Ho hum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2019, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 07, 2019, 04:42:42 PM
Id settle for a great manager from anywhere. Maybe we've just been picking all the wrong ones as past century and theyve all coincidentally been from west belfast.  Ho hum.

Put your name in the hat next time, when the Antrim fundraisers comes passing stick a couple quid in the box
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 07, 2019, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2019, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 07, 2019, 04:42:42 PM
Id settle for a great manager from anywhere. Maybe we've just been picking all the wrong ones as past century and theyve all coincidentally been from west belfast.  Ho hum.

Put your name in the hat next time, when the Antrim fundraisers comes passing stick a couple quid in the box

Already do...cant be manager though......im not from west belfast.....rules me out apparently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 07, 2019, 10:11:30 PM
Surely everyone can see we are at an all team low. Is it much to ask the chairman to outline his plan in some detail?
Not general statements like   Get casement opened. But here's exactly what we are going to do?

We need some hope not soundbites

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2019, 10:33:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2019, 10:03:07 PM
Yeah, it is very odd that over the years the vast majority of Antrim football managers have been from west Belfast clubs.
It is also very strange that over the years the vast majority of Antrim championship winners have been west Belfast clubs as well.

Funny old world.

*Belfast Select clubs  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on March 08, 2019, 10:10:08 AM
Casement is a big issue imo.  It must have a knock-on effect with participation levels.  Going to see Antrim play in the county ground would be a much more inspirational experience for younger players.  The same for club championship games hosted at Casement.  It would inspire them to think I want to play here in this 'stadium', in front of these crowds, etc etc.  Secondly I feel there are too many clubs in Belfast (different argument, I understand the pride in a club's history).  But there's clubs struggling to field teams, very few at training, etc.  Then schools, some schools with big numbers that were once MacCrory and McLarnon level are playing at C now, and in some cases struggling.  Other schools have dropped to D, E and lower.  This could be a case of chicken/egg but all are contributing factors.  Is it participation, is it coaching, is it lack of inspiration, or is it something else? What do you guys think needs addressed first? Trying to be constructive rather than going over west Belfast vs country...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2019, 10:24:45 AM
Bogieman makes a great point about the need for creating an ethos with positivity, creativity and comradeship at the centre....if we are ever going to pull ourselves out of this ongoing cycle of mediocrity. As well as the hard work too that is also mentioned. Outinfront mentions this now too. Great.

Its obvious there must be some correlation between our divisiveness amongst ourselves and our lack of progress. There can't be a county in Ireland with so much division. The country v city divide is obvious.... SW gaels believe they have been a very poor relation for too long (rightly or wrongly) but there's a bigger divide in my opinion between Football and Hurling.

I've attended County Committee meetings just after a poor football championship performance and there is literally zero conversation or debate about it. In other counties this would be top item on the clar, with active debate for hours. In my opinion at least 50% of delegates switch off immediately. same when the topic returns about a new football manager. Honestly, many in the room feel it's a waste of time talking about it. Quite frankly the apathy starts there and then.

Belfast Gaaman makes another great point. What exactly is Ciaran Mc Cavanagh going to do, to lead and be seen to instigate a tangible programme of recovery. So far nothing, and for many of us that's an absolute priority.

I understand why Colie Donnelly didn't make this a bigger priority....his tenure had other more pressing issues to deal with....but Mc Cavanagh as a businessman should know that a vibrant senior football set up will inspire future generations much quicker than anything. With Gaelfast getting going, those kids and also the country kids too must be able to look up to our current players and aspire to follow in their footsteps.

I've long advocated a football sub committee needs to be set up to oversee a joined up approach for short medium and long term programme. To make sure every possible box is ticked, from juvenile development, coaching the coaches, marketing, budgeting, goal setting and measurement, financing etc etc. IMO a vibrant committee dedicated to making this work will start this process, which as CFCLG rightly says, could take ten years or longer.

So please Mr Mc Cavanagh, over to you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 08, 2019, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2019, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2019, 10:33:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2019, 10:03:07 PM
Yeah, it is very odd that over the years the vast majority of Antrim football managers have been from west Belfast clubs.
It is also very strange that over the years the vast majority of Antrim championship winners have been west Belfast clubs as well.

Funny old world.

*Belfast Select clubs  ::)
Indeed. In this last 50 years, 1 club outside of west Belfast has had Antrim championship success, winning a handful of championships. Of that handful of championships, how many were overseen by an outsider more interested in squeezing the last drop out of a club before moving on to the next on the mercenary merry-go-round?

Doesn't leave a pile of homegrown (non-west Belfast) successful managers.

Yep , 3 of the last 4 county champs are from outside west Belfast and lo and behold the current County champs and league champs are from outside west Belfast.

Equally funny is how, since the finals are mixed now between the SW and West Belfast, how more balanced the winners seem to be.

Still don't see an non-west Belfast manager being recruited though. 

The small and only modicum of success we have had in the past 70 years has been with an outside manager when we ditched the west Belfast 'jobs for the boys' model.

Funny old world

btw, this isn't an anti-west Belfast piece - the best man we can get should get the job - its a comment that in the entire history of Antrim GAA the only two non-west Belfast managers have been an Armagh man and a Derry man.  It looks and sounds unbalanced and regardless of the rights and wrongs of the appointments in the past, the optics of such are poor.

At least Lenny had a club CV, some very ropey appointments made in the not so distant past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 08, 2019, 11:06:59 AM
Bannside, you've maybe hit the nail on the head:

I've attended County Committee meetings just after a poor football championship performance and there is literally zero conversation or debate about it. In other counties this would be top item on the clar, with active debate for hours. In my opinion at least 50% of delegates switch off immediately. same when the topic returns about a new football manager. Honestly, many in the room feel it's a waste of time talking about it. Quite frankly the apathy starts there and then.

Perhaps acceptance of mediocrity and apathy are our worst enemies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
To be fair I think Kevin Madden should have been given a crack(or should be at some point) but apart from him I don't think there's really anyone (that I know of anyway) and Harbison has experience at a very high level with St Galls so to be fair to him didn't not deserve a crack either. I do think SW top teams have tended to have outsiders.

I am just not convinced the players at there at the minute no matter who is in charge. MR is getting very defensive on this but he's probably right about the sets of players who are arguably the best in the county (if for arguments sake they are better than the current incumbents) are too old.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2019, 10:33:49 PM
It's not  that I'm defensive, I'd love nothing more for the mcanns Niblock Kelly and the flipping rest to be 10 years younger but they've done their bit, not spring chicks anymore, Spike for some reason had everyone at 28! Doh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 12:36:42 PM
Did i MR? Please get your facts right. You've the entire st galls and cargin squads as over the hill apart from mccabe.  Perhaps stick to watching hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 08, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
To be fair I think Kevin Madden should have been given a crack(or should be at some point) but apart from him I don't think there's really anyone (that I know of anyway) and Harbison has experience at a very high level with St Galls so to be fair to him didn't not deserve a crack either. I do think SW top teams have tended to have outsiders.

I am just not convinced the players at there at the minute no matter who is in charge. MR is getting very defensive on this but he's probably right about the sets of players who are arguably the best in the county (if for arguments sake they are better than the current incumbents) are too old.

Seeing as we are in Div 4, id like to know what the cut off point for being too old is? 25, 30, 35? 

Madden has won nothing of note in  his managerial career so why should he be entitled.to a crack at it?  Hiring him.is perpetuating the previous routes except he has a different postcode.  Lets get the qualified men in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2019, 12:48:06 PM
Division 4 still requires a lot of commitment and that's harder for older guys to give. These guys are not not being picked - they aren't available unless I am mistaken?

Who are these qualified men? Do you mean outsiders?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
You are forgetting Jody Gormley? That's probably wise in fairness.
The SW club that have won 3 of the last 4 championships have been managed by 2 different Derry men for 2? of those successes.

Who are these SW men who you feel should be getting the gig? Who is getting knocked back?
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Forgot about jody, my bad.   Didnt he reach croke park in the TM cup final?

St galls obviously thought the outside manager route was a good option too.  Seemed to work for them.

In case you missed it, mckeever has got blew away twice now, doubt he'll be back for a third round of andytown interviews. Who'd put their name in for a job that they'll never get??  Anyways, as said previously, get the best man possible, not the bargain bucket guy....from wherever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2019, 12:48:06 PM
Division 4 still requires a lot of commitment and that's harder for older guys to give. These guys are not not being picked - they aren't available unless I am mistaken?

Who are these qualified men? Do you mean outsiders?

I mean anyone.....as long as they are qualified.....and can drag stayaways back.( and not the old boys even though MR doesnt seem to realise what age his clubmates are)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2019, 01:52:10 PM
McKeever v Lenny Harbinson in the last interview process. Lenny has more in his bag without a doubt.

Does he? Our best talent seemingly dont agree. He certainly had more ex-team mates in the interview panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 04:01:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2019, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 09, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2019, 01:52:10 PM
McKeever v Lenny Harbinson in the last interview process. Lenny has more in his bag without a doubt.

Does he? Our best talent seemingly dont agree. He certainly had more ex-team mates in the interview panel.
He's the only man to take an Antrim club to All Ireland glory, so, yes.
If players aren't playing for him - that happens. I don't think there is anything to suggest it wouldn't have happened to McKeever as well.Let's not forget that McKeever was run out of Coalisland early last season and they went on to win the Tyrone championship.

Lets not forget Lenny took an established succesful team that had already been to an AI. Its not like he took say,Rossa to an AI win. Guess we'll never know about mckeever though he certainly would have had more say with the SW stayaways, cant say about the city stay aways. Would have at least been a 'seemingly' fresh approach rather than a continuation of the same dross
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 09, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2019, 04:41:02 PM
Jeez, way to take away from a man guiding a club to an All Ireland title! "They were a good team anyway"  ::)
Whatever you think. For me, his managerial success stacks very well against anything we have in the county, McKeever included and I imagine that influenced the decision to appoint him a lot more than a postcode.
I don't think that will satisfy the chip on your shoulder though.

Hey, no chip here, i just want a decent manager for once.    Proof is in the pudding - Lennys just another dud by the looks of it.  There for all to see. Cheapest man got the job.

Ps if youre going to quote me in brackets at least use the correct wording.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Did McKeever win an AI IFC title with Fr Rocks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2019, 06:43:20 PM
Yes PJ. Cookstown beat the Kerry champs in the final. John was 32 at the time. Still young enough to have a proper crack at Antrim in the near future. If you talk to the vast majority of the players in the two clubs he has taken since, Ballinderry Shamrocks and Na Fianna Coalisland, most of whom were present at his brothers wake, you will have no doubt of the esteem in which he is held. He certainly wasn't run out of Coalisland, things happen in management especially in a third year, and I know for a fact John and Conleith Gilligan were an exceptionally well considered management team.

Of course Kevin Madden has obvious credentials almost landing a treble last year with Creggan. Both know their way round a football team, I don't think anyone should dispute that, regardless of where they are from.

In any event Lenny has the job and hopefully he can put something memorable or competitive together in the next few months and he deserves our full support whilst he tries to turn things around. As I said before our performances were decent up until the Waterford game, and maybe he got a bit complacent when we came from behind to go five points up. It happens.

At the same time the league table doesn't lie and tbh it's very painful reading atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Did McKeever win an AI IFC title with Fr Rocks?

Yes brilliant so should Seamus Shannon get the Antrim senior hurling job as  he's won intermediate hurling with Rossa and won Antrim championship as a player. More than McKeever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 09, 2019, 06:43:20 PM
Yes PJ. Cookstown beat the Kerry champs in the final. John was 32 at the time. Still young enough to have a proper crack at Antrim in the near future. If you talk to the vast majority of the players in the two clubs he has taken since, Ballinderry Shamrocks and Na Fianna Coalisland, most of whom were present at his brothers wake, you will have no doubt of the esteem in which he is held. He certainly wasn't run out of Coalisland, things happen in management especially in a third year, and I know for a fact John and Conleith Gilligan were an exceptionally well considered management team.

Of course Kevin Madden has obvious credentials almost landing a treble last year with Creggan. Both know their way round a football team, I don't think anyone should dispute that, regardless of where they are from.

In any event Lenny has the job and hopefully he can put something memorable or competitive together in the next few months and he deserves our full support whilst he tries to turn things around. As I said before our performances were decent up until the Waterford game, and maybe he got a bit complacent when we came from behind to go five points up. It happens.

At the same time the league table doesn't lie and tbh it's very painful reading atm.

Yeah BS, spoke to a few of the players at Pauls wake, a surreal experience sharing a minibus with a few AI winners. John is held on high esteem and I'm not surprised. A man who carries himself with great dignity and class.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2019, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 09, 2019, 06:43:20 PM
Yes PJ. Cookstown beat the Kerry champs in the final. John was 32 at the time. Still young enough to have a proper crack at Antrim in the near future. If you talk to the vast majority of the players in the two clubs he has taken since, Ballinderry Shamrocks and Na Fianna Coalisland, most of whom were present at his brothers wake, you will have no doubt of the esteem in which he is held. He certainly wasn't run out of Coalisland, things happen in management especially in a third year, and I know for a fact John and Conleith Gilligan were an exceptionally well considered management team.

Of course Kevin Madden has obvious credentials almost landing a treble last year with Creggan. Both know their way round a football team, I don't think anyone should dispute that, regardless of where they are from.

In any event Lenny has the job and hopefully he can put something memorable or competitive together in the next few months and he deserves our full support whilst he tries to turn things around. As I said before our performances were decent up until the Waterford game, and maybe he got a bit complacent when we came from behind to go five points up. It happens.

At the same time the league table doesn't lie and tbh it's very painful reading atm.

Yeah BS, spoke to a few of the players at Pauls wake, a surreal experience sharing a minibus with a few AI winners. John is held on high esteem and I'm not surprised. A man who carries himself with great dignity and class.

Are we talking about a senior team here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 10, 2019, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Did McKeever win an AI IFC title with Fr Rocks?

Yes brilliant so should Seamus Shannon get the Antrim senior hurling job as  he's won intermediate hurling with Rossa and won Antrim championship as a player. More than McKeever

Why not?

Personally im in favour of a young coach. Id like to see John get a go

Those boys in their 30s are still unfortunatly our best players....still good enough to get us out of Div 4. Life gets in the way but would be nice to have at least a few of them to have assisted brjnging younger players on.

We lost 3 games by a point....if we had (to take 1 example) say Tomas McCann we may well have won all 3.

Would John McKeever have been more likely to cajole a Tomas out (or say he would be happy to work round his work and family schedule)....i dont know.

Are the current mgt team too rigid re attendance at everything......i dont know. 

Just disapointed as a fan that we went from a resurgence of sorts 10 yrs ago for a few years to the bottom. Those days in Clones, Tullamore and Newbridge were class....like we suddenly had a proper county team. Besting Meath in Div 2 at Casement.

Kerry football fans are notoriously demanding re their team.  Here we dont have radio shows discussing our team or holding the mgt to account...we have about 5 of us who care on Gaaboard discussing it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Did McKeever win an AI IFC title with Fr Rocks?

Yes brilliant so should Seamus Shannon get the Antrim senior hurling job as  he's won intermediate hurling with Rossa and won Antrim championship as a player. More than McKeever

You're being a bit disrespectful there to Mr Shannon and also John McKeever. Any All Ireland is hard won as you know. I'm sure John could of tapped into the knowledge of Peter Canavan and also Mickey Harte if advice was needed. Youth is the way forward and a young coach sometimes deserves a chance.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Did McKeever win an AI IFC title with Fr Rocks?

Yes brilliant so should Seamus Shannon get the Antrim senior hurling job as  he's won intermediate hurling with Rossa and won Antrim championship as a player. More than McKeever

You're being a bit disrespectful there to Mr Shannon and also John McKeever. Any All Ireland is hard won as you know. I'm sure John could of tapped into the knowledge of Peter Canavan and also Mickey Harte if advice was needed. Youth is the way forward and a young coach sometimes deserves a chance.

Jody Gormley? No disrespect at all, I ask the question should Shannon get the job (should he ask) because he won an Antrim senior title as a player and coached his club to intermediate glory at Croke?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2019, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Did McKeever win an AI IFC title with Fr Rocks?

Yes brilliant so should Seamus Shannon get the Antrim senior hurling job as  he's won intermediate hurling with Rossa and won Antrim championship as a player. More than McKeever

You're being a bit disrespectful there to Mr Shannon and also John McKeever. Any All Ireland is hard won as you know. I'm sure John could of tapped into the knowledge of Peter Canavan and also Mickey Harte if advice was needed. Youth is the way forward and a young coach sometimes deserves a chance.

Jody Gormley? No disrespect at all, I ask the question should Shannon get the job (should he ask) because he won an Antrim senior title as a player and coached his club to intermediate glory at Croke?

Why wouldn't he ask? If he had confidence in his own ability to manage the hurlers get his name in the hat surely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2019, 05:31:00 PM
Just disapointed as a fan that we went from a resurgence of sorts 10 yrs ago for a few years to the bottom. Those days in Clones, Tullamore and Newbridge were class....like we suddenly had a proper county team. Besting Meath in Div 2 at Casement.

Kerry football fans are notoriously demanding re their team.  Here we dont have radio shows discussing our team or holding the mgt to account...we have about 5 of us who care on Gaaboard discussing it

Very well said and this sums it up for me. Jeez, for a few years there I never missed a match. My kids, admittedly they are older now and more wordly wise, pestered me to go to every game, with no worries about distance. And we went - some brilliant days and nights  that I hoped were the start of something, rather than the effing highlight of a lifetime supporting the Saffrons. Now I can barley convince myself to go to Corrigan. On my own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on March 10, 2019, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2019, 05:31:00 PM
Just disapointed as a fan that we went from a resurgence of sorts 10 yrs ago for a few years to the bottom. Those days in Clones, Tullamore and Newbridge were class....like we suddenly had a proper county team. Besting Meath in Div 2 at Casement.

Kerry football fans are notoriously demanding re their team.  Here we dont have radio shows discussing our team or holding the mgt to account...we have about 5 of us who care on Gaaboard discussing it

Very well said and this sums it up for me. Jeez, for a few years there I never missed a match. My kids, admittedly they are older now and more wordly wise, pestered me to go to every game, with no worries about distance. And we went - some brilliant days and nights  that I hoped were the start of something, rather than the effing highlight of a lifetime supporting the Saffrons. Now I can barley convince myself to go to Corrigan. On my own.


Interesting point you raise Brendan & its a circular issue. On the one hand supporters demand and deserve a team winning and progressing up the divisions. On the other hand the players & management deserve to have supporters turn out to back them (regardless of results). Players feed off supporters and will raise their game.

However, when you have 86 (maybe 20 from Antrim) as a total crowd in Waterford you can kind of see why it was a flat performance. Not saying that excuses the flat and poor performance on and off the pitch. But I could also argue its less effort for the supporters to turn out for a game than it is for the players to commit to 3,4,5 sessions a week. So I think the apathy from lots of people within the county seeps through to the players. If "regular punters" within the county really wanted to effect a change in the fortunes of Antrim football then the easiest and most impactful thing they can do is attend the games. Don't underestimate the impact this would have on players & management and as a consequence their performances. Like I say its a circular issue and EVERYONE has their part to play (and not just on forums like this).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 10, 2019, 10:17:01 PM
I hope the players aren't doing 5 sessions a week with the county. I'm no expert but that would surely be wildly excessive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 11, 2019, 09:15:54 AM
There's no doubt the players must find it hard to rise to the occasion when there basically is no occasion- playing in Div 4 in an empty ground on a wet and windy day.

At some stage in the future we must push the boat out and go for a really big name external manager to create a buzz which I have no doubt would get another 20% out of the players and lift us off the bottom.

It's worked elsewhere: Paidi, Westmeath; Davy Fitz, Wexford; Anthony Daly, Dublin.  All those Counties and others went on an upward curve.

And that's with all respect to Lenny and his team who have put their shoulder to the wheel, but it's a fairly impossible job for him and that wee bit of luck seems to be avoiding them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on March 11, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
I'm lead to believe the county footballers do go 5 sessions a week -  no wonder the old hands wont commit to that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 11, 2019, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 11, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
I'm lead to believe the county footballers do go 5 sessions a week -  no wonder the old hands wont commit to that

Sure thats mental.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on March 11, 2019, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 11, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
I'm lead to believe the county footballers do go 5 sessions a week -  no wonder the old hands wont commit to that

What exactly does that mean?
2 Pitch sessions + a match (or 3rd pitch session)
+
2 Gym sessions

Be club players doing that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 11, 2019, 10:24:38 AM
PJoe hit the nail on the head. The sad reality is that there are whole generations of Antrim GAA supporters who have had very little to cheer about or get behind. It is not popular or appealing to be an Antrim supporter anymore and can you blame them? This is the biggest problem that needs addressed to put a bit of life back into the county, and it will benefit hugely on and off the pitch.

Imagine having a county team players were dying to play for, or that big sponsors were keen to be associated with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on March 11, 2019, 10:26:45 AM
yes and as a team which means travelling to a certain gym to do it together meaning being out of the house. We don't have the quality to get out of division 4 plain and simple and if some of the current starting 15 continue to play and start its going to be a long stay in division 4. Its totally embarrassing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2019, 12:26:21 PM
BelfastSaff that's a terribly depressing post. Most on here do think the quality is there, but getting the right players on the pitch seems to be the problem. And if you talk to Lenny he will present a strong case that he has at some point thrown an olive branch or an invitation to most or all of the missing names that we all know are still some of the top ballers in the county.

I much prefer to think that if Conor Murray and Peter Healy had been available from the start of the league we would be sitting pretty up around the top and pushing for promotion. Just those two players, that's all. Those are the fine margins we are talking about here!

Had we beaten Waterford, we would be sitting here fairly optimistic of winning our last two and talking about a point the referee gave Derry that everyone thought was wide, and a perfectly good Ryan Murray against Leitrim that was disallowed. Again....the thinnest of margins.

Waterford was a disaster, an event which left us rock bottom, and rightly opened up this flurry of activity on this forum. Lets try to win these last two and hopefully the horizon gets a bit brighter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AggiesTillDeath8 on March 11, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
A grain of rice tips the scales folks. We showed against Derry that having greater pedigree and footballing history doesn't win games, and we came damn close to upsetting them. The problem is when the belief goes after a few disappointing results. In regards to getting the right players out on the pitch- I believe that the Aghagallon duo Eunan Walsh and Oisin Leneghan should be given more minutes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
here's how many Belfast clubs have no minor football teams of their own:
St Agnes
Eire Og
St Johns
Davitts
St Teresa's
Gorts
O'Ds

and there may be more - sorry state of affairs and no doubt Casement related
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 11, 2019, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
here's how many Belfast clubs have no minor football teams of their own:
St Agnes
Eire Og
St Johns
Davitts
St Teresa's
Gorts
O'Ds

and there may be more - sorry state of affairs and no doubt Casement related

Sad state of affairs surely. Do these team amalgamate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 11, 2019, 01:53:30 PM
St Johns dont have a minor team ?????  Bit shocking that, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2019, 01:56:58 PM
don't think Pearses and Ardoyne have minor teams either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 11, 2019, 01:59:48 PM
Whats the problem here?  It cant be a population thing obviously as this would be more an issue with rural clubs you'd imagine?  Are clubs doing enough to keep their players involved up to minors?

Find it shocking that some division 1 senior teams aren't fielding minor teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 11, 2019, 02:48:11 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 11, 2019, 01:59:48 PM
Whats the problem here?  It cant be a population thing obviously as this would be more an issue with rural clubs you'd imagine?  Are clubs doing enough to keep their players involved up to minors?

Find it shocking that some division 1 senior teams aren't fielding minor teams?

Every club goes through a bad spell of losing players, but its worrying that so many teams in the city haven't minor teams, is it such a big issue in country clubs?

What is being done to rectify it? Does Gaelfast cover all bases?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 11, 2019, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
here's how many Belfast clubs have no minor football teams of their own:
St Agnes
Eire Og
St Johns
Davitts
St Teresa's
Gorts
O'Ds

and there may be more - sorry state of affairs and no doubt Casement related

That's unreal! How can these teams not get 15 players ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2019, 07:05:09 PM
Have these clubs got hurling at minor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2019, 07:20:00 PM
There's 5 of these clubs wouldn't field too regularly at underage (unless through amalgamations).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2019, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2019, 07:05:09 PM
Have these clubs got hurling at minor?
No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 12, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 11, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
here's how many Belfast clubs have no minor football teams of their own:
St Agnes
Eire Og
St Johns
Davitts
St Teresa's
Gorts
O'Ds

and there may be more - sorry state of affairs and no doubt Casement related

3 Division one clubs in that list is scary, if St Johns aren't fielding at Minor that should have alarm bells ringing, one of the biggest clubs in the county and a history of great underage Success. in fairness, its hard to blame the clubs, too many distractions now a days too, ie kids would rather sit in front of a tv screen/ computer rather than play sport, minor has always been a tough age to get players out id say now its much more difficult.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 12, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
we didnt have a minor football team for a few seasons. sometimes it happens that you dont have enough for some reason.

but its a matter for the club to address and see what can be done to keep the young lads at it from the underage up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
very relaxed attitude DR - its not one club in Belfast but 9! and 3 of them are Div 1 sides - alarms bells have to be ringing loudly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2019, 02:20:33 PM
Out of that list though there are about 5 clubs that wouldn't field very often at minor? (Unless they have changed but definitely when I was playing!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 12, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
very relaxed attitude DR - its not one club in Belfast but 9! and 3 of them are Div 1 sides - alarms bells have to be ringing loudly

its not a relaxed attitude from myself you should be addressing rather its the ones of the clubs.

If they are able to field at underage successfully then they need to be asking the hard questions of themselves as to what they are doing wrong that this is happening.

looking around to Gaelfast wont solve the problem, it will take years to really kick in - if its a success that is - and at that it wont guarantee that it will make kids stay on after U16

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on March 13, 2019, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 12, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
very relaxed attitude DR - its not one club in Belfast but 9! and 3 of them are Div 1 sides - alarms bells have to be ringing loudly

its not a relaxed attitude from myself you should be addressing rather its the ones of the clubs.

If they are able to field at underage successfully then they need to be asking the hard questions of themselves as to what they are doing wrong that this is happening.

looking around to Gaelfast wont solve the problem, it will take years to really kick in - if its a success that is - and at that it wont guarantee that it will make kids stay on after U16

100% correct. The hard questions need to be asked at the highest level within the county. Kids at 16/17/18 years of age don't suddenly disappear. They move to other hobbies/interests that fit into their busy lives more easily. At minor level within Antrim, how many games will they get (in either code) versus number of training sessions? Local soccer and rugby clubs guarantee a game every Saturday. We simply aren't doing that. Kids want to play matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 13, 2019, 06:11:32 PM
We need a Belfast action plan focused on late teens. If we wait on Gaelfast we r waiting 10 years plus.
Picking up on an earlier post these issues are not debated enough as there seems to be an attitude that if you speak up you are just a slabber
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 13, 2019, 07:37:02 PM
"Kids at 16/17/18 years of age don't suddenly disappear."
I believe that one of the main contributing factors to the problem , is the exam system. Young players are faced with exams from 4th year to 7th year,non stop.They are under pressure to succeed by their parents. Football / hurling are side stepped.
We set our fixtures for these age groups at the worst time in their education.  We need to adopt a more flexible approach , winter leagues, flood light matches, blitzes, smaller sided games ,  Friday night games. The fixtures have to reflect how these young people manage their time, not the other way around.
Schools football is all tidied up by March. By not having players available , teams are unable to field , they are encouraged not to participate.
There are so many conflicting situations , county , dev sq. , schools , club. Clubs are bottom of the pile. The best way forward at that age ....is extremely difficult in urban areas .


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 13, 2019, 06:11:32 PM
We need a Belfast action plan focused on late teens. If we wait on Gaelfast we r waiting 10 years plus.
Picking up on an earlier post these issues are not debated enough as there seems to be an attitude that if you speak up you are just a slabber

Have you an action plan laid out? Genuine question and what actions are you putting in place at this level?

Slabbers are just people who talk about things, don't do anything and give off about other people actually trying, surely not you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2019, 10:59:38 PM
Maybe it suits a few big clubs in the city for other clubs to fold, you know a few decent lads may end up down the lane or up the road..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2019, 10:59:38 PM
Maybe it suits a few big clubs in the city for other clubs to fold, you know a few decent lads may end up down the lane or up the road..

I've said for years, there are toooooooo many clubs in Belfast. That's what needs looked at
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 13, 2019, 11:23:28 PM
MR2 I just would like the leadership to try something different instead of just doing the same things. My plan would b
1) A Belfast league
2) put money into secondary schools coaching not just primary
3) run the league before exams and championship after exams
But I don't really care what the plan is as long as there is a plan by those who have put themselves forward to lead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 11:44:01 PM
Gaelfest is one plan, leadership has changed very recently so that needs time to flourish. The schools have had varied attempts to improve on their worth but unfortunately not enough kids are interested, so if you've not got them at primary school level then they are completely lost come secondary school!

A Belfast league? The reason we go all county is to give kids more games, the reason these games aren't played can be as you've mentioned is schools, exams and so on, one other reason is having games on a Friday night, where travel to Ballycastle is difficult, the sensible fixture should be Belfast games should be during the week while weekend games should be against teams from 30 plus miles away..

how can soccer be played ever weekend on grass pitches from August through to May?! Should we look at changing the dates ?

Rugby at juvenile level is only played at school level competition wise in the north, they don't play for clubs as such until they play for senior clubs or old schools clubs.

At a leadership level putting measures in place quickly to change current systems is harder than we think I'd imagine. If someone put your proposal in place and it didn't work then where do we go?

The beauty of being a member of a club is you can put these proposals to your club committee and they can bring that to the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on March 14, 2019, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2019, 10:59:38 PM
Maybe it suits a few big clubs in the city for other clubs to fold, you know a few decent lads may end up down the lane or up the road..

I've said for years, there are toooooooo many clubs in Belfast. That's what needs looked at

While living in the states, my children played for a club in /NJ.

The run teams from U8 to U14.

At U 16 they stop and the kids then move to the senior club in the area.

The players and families have two allegiances. They have a loyalty to juvenile club and the senior club.

This is something that I think could work well.

Keep the individual clubs but look at establishing a Kerry like regional teams to play in a county championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 14, 2019, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 11:44:01 PM
Gaelfest is one plan, leadership has changed very recently so that needs time to flourish. The schools have had varied attempts to improve on their worth but unfortunately not enough kids are interested, so if you've not got them at primary school level then they are completely lost come secondary school!

A Belfast league? The reason we go all county is to give kids more games, the reason these games aren't played can be as you've mentioned is schools, exams and so on, one other reason is having games on a Friday night, where travel to Ballycastle is difficult, the sensible fixture should be Belfast games should be during the week while weekend games should be against teams from 30 plus miles away..

how can soccer be played ever weekend on grass pitches from August through to May?! Should we look at changing the dates ?

Rugby at juvenile level is only played at school level competition wise in the north, they don't play for clubs as such until they play for senior clubs or old schools clubs.

At a leadership level putting measures in place quickly to change current systems is harder than we think I'd imagine. If someone put your proposal in place and it didn't work then where do we go?

The beauty of being a member of a club is you can put these proposals to your club committee and they can bring that to the county.

There is something worth looking at in the idea of a Belfast league, maybe as a pre regular league competition or at the end of the playing calendar. Even a south Belfast league would be worthwhile as a mini competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on March 15, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
Games are needed.  That's why young lads play.  Training to match ratio is wrong all over the GAA,, notjust Antrim.  Same in schools football, although this is improving.

Am I right in saying that the championships in Antrim are regionalised, with the winners playing eachother in an all county final?
Could leagues not be regionalised for a round of fixtures (all teams play each other once,), then a split in the leagues with top half and bottom half playing in respective all county leagues (again all playing the once, twice may not work?)  Less travel and more games

The importance of school football cannot be overlooked.  It keeps many lads playing and also gets some lads involved who maybe didn't previously play, or weren't club members.  It can be difficult for staff to give up their time but it is essential in my eyes to keep these lads interested.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on March 15, 2019, 09:49:38 AM
Who would be seen as the progressive clubs in South Antrim (Belfast) ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on March 15, 2019, 09:56:50 AM
From an outsider I would say:
St Brigids and St Endas seem to be heading the right direction.
Rossa appeared to be but maybe have taken a backward step recently?
Lamh Dearg won the SFC 2 seasons ago but don't know much about their under age teams.

Open to correction on any of the above points!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 15, 2019, 10:07:29 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on March 15, 2019, 09:49:38 AM
Who would be seen as the progressive clubs in South Antrim (Belfast) ??

Playing teams or facilities wise or complete package?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2019, 10:10:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 11:44:01 PM
Gaelfest is one plan, leadership has changed very recently so that needs time to flourish. The schools have had varied attempts to improve on their worth but unfortunately not enough kids are interested, so if you've not got them at primary school level then they are completely lost come secondary school!

A Belfast league? The reason we go all county is to give kids more games, the reason these games aren't played can be as you've mentioned is schools, exams and so on, one other reason is having games on a Friday night, where travel to Ballycastle is difficult, the sensible fixture should be Belfast games should be during the week while weekend games should be against teams from 30 plus miles away..

how can soccer be played ever weekend on grass pitches from August through to May?! Should we look at changing the dates ?

Rugby at juvenile level is only played at school level competition wise in the north, they don't play for clubs as such until they play for senior clubs or old schools clubs.

At a leadership level putting measures in place quickly to change current systems is harder than we think I'd imagine. If someone put your proposal in place and it didn't work then where do we go?

The beauty of being a member of a club is you can put these proposals to your club committee and they can bring that to the county.
I wish the process of putting a motion to your club / getting club agreement / get board and other clubs agreement was that easy. The set up makes change very slow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:06 AM
Both I guess, they not go hand in hand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on March 15, 2019, 10:15:27 AM
We all have various 'tweaks' to current systems to improve the situation for young men/ladies in either code. Here's what i'm thinking for u16 & minor:

Trying to keep these high level:
1. Organise our fixtures to accommodate the exam timetable.
2. Increase the number of games dramatically.
3. Schedule these fixtures in a logistically sensible way (i.e Belfast teams can play each other mid week/friday night. NA would do the same. NA vs Belfast games must be a sat/sun).

If we could tick these boxes it would be a great start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2019, 10:21:39 AM
If you look at underage leagues though there are a load of games where teams are not fielding. How would more games help that? I think it's deeper than just the more games thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 15, 2019, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:06 AM
Both I guess, they not go hand in hand?

Some say they and some say they don't. Look at St Galls, 10/11 in a row without massive facilities.

Sarsfields new set up is impressive and great to see them thriving, I'm sure they'd love to stay in Div2 for another year and build from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on March 15, 2019, 11:26:04 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 14, 2019, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2019, 11:44:01 PM
Gaelfest is one plan, leadership has changed very recently so that needs time to flourish. The schools have had varied attempts to improve on their worth but unfortunately not enough kids are interested, so if you've not got them at primary school level then they are completely lost come secondary school!

A Belfast league? The reason we go all county is to give kids more games, the reason these games aren't played can be as you've mentioned is schools, exams and so on, one other reason is having games on a Friday night, where travel to Ballycastle is difficult, the sensible fixture should be Belfast games should be during the week while weekend games should be against teams from 30 plus miles away..

how can soccer be played ever weekend on grass pitches from August through to May?! Should we look at changing the dates ?

Rugby at juvenile level is only played at school level competition wise in the north, they don't play for clubs as such until they play for senior clubs or old schools clubs.

At a leadership level putting measures in place quickly to change current systems is harder than we think I'd imagine. If someone put your proposal in place and it didn't work then where do we go?

The beauty of being a member of a club is you can put these proposals to your club committee and they can bring that to the county.

There is something worth looking at in the idea of a Belfast league, maybe as a pre regular league competition or at the end of the playing calendar. Even a south Belfast league would be worthwhile as a mini competition

I swear people forget so easily how things were set up before. Underage wasn't all county 11 years ago and it had its drawbacks. The main one? There isn't  enough teams to have proper divisions. One week we'd play a fantastic Creggan team and beat by 5/6 the next week we held St Comgalls to two points over 60 minutes. Swings and roundabouts.

This is like people saying we need to look at adding more divisions, 11/12 years ago we had divisions and it fostered a more competitive scene as reserve teams of varying quality were spread throughout these divisions. A galls/cargin second team was regularly finishing quite competitively in div 2/3.  It also meant that reserve matches didn't swing wildly from one week to the next as they do now as it was in essence an actual seperate team.

We don't have the depth of other counties in terms of numbers of teams and I still a home/away fixture set is a more accurate setup than the current implementation of the top/bottom.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on March 15, 2019, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2019, 10:21:39 AM
If you look at underage leagues though there are a load of games where teams are not fielding. How would more games help that? I think it's deeper than just the more games thing.

Yes, there are many different strands to this issue. This might relate back to MR2's point about too many clubs in Belfast. Or maybe the way the fixtures were scheduled in the first place. A minefield
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2019, 05:46:53 PM
If I'm reading the minor fixtures right from county web Div 2 teams have 8 league matches and div 1 teams 12. U could hardly call that a season as championship is knockout....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2019, 05:57:12 PM
12 games plus c'ship plus regional championship probably enough for that age. Factor in exams, games with other age groups and games with other codes then I think it's ok.

(Not sure if Belfast has a south Belfast c'ship but there is a south west one)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 15, 2019, 06:13:09 PM
There is great sense on having 3  fixtures  in July!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2019, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2019, 05:57:12 PM
12 games plus c'ship plus regional championship probably enough for that age. Factor in exams, games with other age groups and games with other codes then I think it's ok.

(Not sure if Belfast has a south Belfast c'ship but there is a south west one)
Yes think it's over already
Surely 8 in div 2 is light...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2019, 07:33:22 PM
Yeah 8 maybe a wee bit light. 12 league games in the top one not bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 15, 2019, 07:45:39 PM
Only a panel of 22 named for this weeken?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2019, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 15, 2019, 07:45:39 PM
Only a panel of 22 named for this weeken?

Time to get those stay aways back on board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 15, 2019, 09:26:17 PM
Not one player from St Galls MR. Have you any insight as to how this can be? Even excusing the over thirties who feel they have done that particular shift, surely your proud club has several good enough to make the team/squad!! Are they not being encouraged to go? I'd have thought with Lennys strong connection there your club would be pulling a bit more with him? From the outside it certainly doesn't look like he is getting much support from St Galls.

No one from Cargin either CB? Why would you say this is the case?

We have a must win home game tomorrow and the silence is deafening!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2019, 09:40:37 PM
McCabe not available?

We've not contested a final in a few years, we'd be well down on the pecking order at county level. Creggan the johnnies, Cargin and Lamhs are the new kingpins.

Add in your up and coming teams like  Endas and that's our future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 15, 2019, 10:52:54 PM
Mc Cabe is no longer available apparently!!

Pity because I thought he was shaping well and has the engine to play at this level. Looks like he doesn't fancy hanging around fighting for his place...at least that's the way it's coming across!

I'm sure the aforementioned clubs will be flattered by your admiration...but back to my previous question...have St Galls not got two or three players that should be in there doing their best for their clubman Lenny and more so for their county? Backs to the wall at the bottom of the NFL and players are deserting the ranks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 15, 2019, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2019, 09:40:37 PM
McCabe not available?

We've not contested a final in a few years, we'd be well down on the pecking order at county level. Creggan the johnnies, Cargin and Lamhs are the new kingpins.

Add in your up and coming teams like  Endas and that's our future

It's hardly a 'must win'; group games in the McKenna Cup carry more weight than this. The points do nothing to either team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2019, 11:28:36 PM
It would be nice to not finish last in the league though.... (either full stop or the last team from Ireland- no offense to London...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2019, 11:53:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 15, 2019, 10:52:54 PM
Mc Cabe is no longer available apparently!!

Pity because I thought he was shaping well and has the engine to play at this level. Looks like he doesn't fancy hanging around fighting for his place...at least that's the way it's coming across!

I'm sure the aforementioned clubs will be flattered by your admiration...but back to my previous question...have St Galls not got two or three players that should be in there doing their best for their clubman Lenny and more so for their county? Backs to the wall at the bottom of the NFL and players are deserting the ranks.

I jest to a certain point, I know nothing of the inner workings of the Antrim senior football team, nor do I claim to have the reason, real reason as to why we are so poor lately, seems plenty of experts do and if you've actually no knowledge of playing for Antrim you'd do well to keep very quiet (according to spike, that is!)

But the division between SW and Belfast may be one factor, a non SW manager in our management may have kept the SW better players (Cargin) from playing. Not going for a 'younger' more experienced manager seems to be a stumbling block, not going for the more expensive choice seems to be a stumbling block to Antrim's fortune. I could go on. From a Galls perspective I've no idea why we haven't been more active for Antrim, I genuinely believe our best players over the years have given their all for the county, and with work and family commitments can't give for both county and club.

We really shouldn't be needing players in their 30's to still be playing county football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 16, 2019, 06:51:19 AM
MR, you do me a disservice. I merely wish you could empathise with the county player a bit more.  Its more complicated than simply turn up and play for the love of the jersey......which brings me on to my point,  the apathy towards playing for antrim (regardless of age) is a serious concern amd the postings regarding minor football in belfast is alarming and must be addressed.

St Galls and Cargin are still the two best teams in the county and neither now have any representation in the county set up. While ive been critical of Lennys appointment i know he is a symptom and not the cause of our lowly status.   

We've now  had multi generational lack of success and perhaps the rot has well and truly set in and the viscous cycle is well under way. In the short term we need a new tack, an inspiring manager,  and create Antrim County football as the ultimate destination and not just a box tick.   Long term, a school in belfast and a school in SW Antrim need to be targeted as a future mccrory cup winning sides.  Success breeds success after all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
Indeed ITG we need to get something from last two games to avoid the dreaded worst team in Ireland label. No one has any appetite for that. From that perspective at least one of the last two is a "must win".

The inter county landscape has changed rapidly in recent years, and the sheeer commitment level demanded is simply too much for many. Four or five sessions per week is scaring players away, the negative impact that has on social lives, relationships, job prospects, and impact on club participation, makes many wonder is the sacrifice necessary.....especially when you wouldn't get a hundred supporters to bother to turn up and support you.

I totally understand that. Unfortunately there is no quick fix unless you restrict the squad training nights to two....one in SW and one in the city. That might make a difference to many who won't commit at present.

We've lost three players in recent weeks due to walk aways and three or four injuries which hasn't helped Lennys case. In my opinion he really needs to bring in four or five players to freshen things up, and create a competitive environment at training. Otherwise we really are in a race to the bottom at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
Phew. Decent win today so maybe not the worst team in Ireland after all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 16, 2019, 06:14:51 PM
Delighted for the lads today. The many things wrong with Antrim football are nothing to do with those lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Thrilled to see the passion displayed by the Men in Saffron earlier today. We were a different league from Wicklow and there were some absolutely standout performances, notably Patrick Gallagher who kept us in the game with three terrific blocks or tackles when we were behind in the first quarter. Matt Fitz was exceptional scoring 2 -03, Eoin Nagle looks full of promise (what a pass for Fitzys goal) and Paddy Mc Cormick gets better and better. We were full value for our ten point victory.

Our second half today was as good as I've seen for quite a while, especially with pressure on to deliver a performance....and Antrim did that. Credit where it's due to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 23, 2019, 01:27:54 PM
Good luck to the county team v Limerick.
Anyone think it would be good to play the last round of Div 4 fixtures in Croke as a reward to the players who won't get their by the championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 23, 2019, 11:02:40 PM
No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2019, 10:06:14 AM
Ok Brendan well said  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 10:51:33 AM
We, and every other division 4 team, are given the opportunity to play in Croker if we finish top 2 in the league....

Likewise division 2 and 3. Division 3 teams are unlikely to make it there either and then there's hurling...

Not sure the rationale in your suggestion other than you want to see Antrim in Croke Park lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 02:41:35 PM
Good win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 24, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
Big boost for the footballers today, coming from behind to win when so often it's the other way around.  Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2019, 04:03:36 PM
It's obvious there are players in Antrim who take great pride in being handed a county jersey and after another two well earned points today in Kilmallock we finish the division in third place after losing three games by a point. The long road home will be a bit quicker after another good second half display, and now Lenny can focus on getting his best players in the right frame of mind for the summer. There are definitely several players who can add to his options, and no doubt he will have scouts at the Antrim league games starting next week.

Reiterating what I've said on several occasions, if we can add just add the likes this years unavailable players such as Conor Murray, two Healys, Paddy Mc Aleer etc to the squad then I think we can realistically aspire to get out of the basement division and be competive in division three at the very least. The loss of these four hurt us particularly hard this year imo, all have great engines and would really suit our current style.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Just think everyone should get a chance to play in Croke and where you are born doesn't dictate if you do or not which currently is the situation for over 50% of county players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2019, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
Just think everyone should get a chance to play in Croke and where you are born doesn't dictate if you do or not which currently is the situation for over 50% of county players

I'm sorry, you have to earn the right to play in Croke, the Dubs should be playing their home games in Parnell Park also.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 24, 2019, 06:50:30 PM
MR2, what did U2, Beyonce & Bruce Springsteen win to earn the right to play there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2019, 06:53:19 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 24, 2019, 06:50:30 PM
MR2, what did U2, Beyonce & Bruce Springsteen win to earn the right to play there

Are you being serious?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 24, 2019, 07:00:03 PM
Thread just got interesting....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 07:16:04 PM
We had the opportunity to play in Croke Park by being able to finish top two division 4. Our hurlers did not have that though with the tiering of championships more "lesser" counties will have that opportunity so to be fair to the Gaa division 1-4 you all get that chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 24, 2019, 08:05:47 PM
We need to swap hurls and footballs to mics and discoballs then. Croke Pk is for the GAA folk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
Is right BigBall - GAA HQ is guilty of in your face Elitism - Leinster counties get to play routinely at Croke and our lads get Corrigan !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 08:33:33 PM
We had casement and we gave it away!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2019, 09:31:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
Is right BigBall - GAA HQ is guilty of in your face Elitism - Leinster counties get to play routinely at Croke and our lads get Corrigan !

Oh dear!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2019, 06:51:28 PM
The football league is almost upon us once again and this year I foresee the most open division one league in memory. The race to the top six will be interesting with most teams quietly fancying their chances of achieving that. No one looks unbeatable at this stage and it wouldn't surprise me if four or five points separated the top half dozen positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on March 27, 2019, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2019, 06:51:28 PM
The football league is almost upon us once again and this year I foresee the most open division one league in memory. The race to the top six will be interesting with most teams quietly fancying their chances of achieving that. No one looks unbeatable at this stage and it wouldn't surprise me if four or five points separated the top half dozen positions.

Cargin, Creggan and St Galls still ahead of the rest in league & championship. More wishful thinking Bannside without any logic applied
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 27, 2019, 12:18:49 PM
I would see St Johns as one of the favourites as they have been very close in the last 2 years and still have a young side. Also LD/NE and Aghagallon will be close too - very wide open imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ahoy hoy on March 27, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
anyone have the dates for the senior football championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
It never stops with dates of games!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2019, 07:27:05 PM
I see it as wide open between seven or eight teams all beating each other. Maybe I'll be wrong but I don't see any super forces out there the way St Galls and Cargin undeniably were a few years ago. I predict things will continue to level out even further this year....but time will tell. Atm probably about 8 clubs will fancy their chances of finishing in the top 4. That's healthy and should make for plenty of competitive action in the months ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 27, 2019, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: ahoy hoy on March 27, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
anyone have the dates for the senior football championship?

All fixture dates are provisionally arranged

https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/antrim-2019-fixture-calendar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 29, 2019, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
For what it's worth I think we will be much improved this year. A lot of posters don't see us in the top half dozen (we finished 9th in the league last year) but if we weren't top four this year I'd be disappointed.


Always love your optimism Bannside!  keep it up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 29, 2019, 10:11:22 AM
Straight fight between Cargin and St Galls for the league provided Cargin can keep their squad which was decimated last year (and still won the championship!) and St Galls don't have too many retirees. St Galls are slick, but can they sustain another season of it after the effort they put into last years big push. 

Creggan pounced on the stumbles of the big 2 last year but need to develop to be more than just a counter attack team to have a shot again. Last years shambolic final showed a team could conceivably play 'keep ball' against them for 15 minutes as they wont come out.

St Johns had their 'one swallow summer' in 2018, potential for top 4, no chance of top 2.
Lamhs can be top 2 or top 4, difficult to know which side will turn up. Conor Murray will be a big asset returning.
I think the bottom half are very evenly matched, the relegation battle will be fierce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2019, 11:41:04 AM
I notice Domhnall Nugent playing hurling for st johns so must have moved back there. I would say he's a big addition in both football and hurling for them (assuming he still plays football).

Whatever about Creggan in the county final they still won last year's league so I suspect shouldn't be discounted. They might have learnt from last year.

Be interesting to see how St Endas do. You would have to expect that at some point St Brigids with what they have coming through will make a breakthrough though I suspect a little early. A lot of Creggan's better players are round the u21 mark and they seemed to take care of them at that age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AggiesTillDeath8 on March 29, 2019, 05:09:29 PM
LD are no longer the title force they once were, I believe the Fermanagh man, O'Flaherty, is no longer with them, Nugent is also a big loss. C. Murray's comeback is a big plus but he may not be right for most of the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 29, 2019, 10:43:32 PM
Not often I say this but that's good fixture decision to have a big game on Saturday afternoon and the rest on Sunday giving supporters a chance to see more than one game. Good if this becomes the norm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 30, 2019, 04:40:38 PM
Maybe it's only to allow all the Belfast wives to hit the bottle tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2019, 04:58:31 PM
1 point win for ld. interesting result though only 1st league game so hard to read too much into it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 30, 2019, 08:25:59 PM
Was at it . Cunningham's frees outstanding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 30, 2019, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 30, 2019, 04:40:38 PM
Maybe it's only to allow all the Belfast wives to hit the bottle tomorrow

I assume it's because St Johns are having a big do in the Europa tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 31, 2019, 07:18:45 PM
Good win for NE today and great start by the Gorts the stand out results today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on April 01, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 31, 2019, 07:18:45 PM
Good win for NE today and great start by the Gorts the stand out results today

Gorts playing near the full match a man down. Surely times up on the escape act for Teresa's this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on April 04, 2019, 03:41:24 PM
St Teresa's getting hammered by Gort Na Mona doesn't bode well for them. Still very early days but that could be a big two points come the end off the season.

Time may also be up for Clooney Gaels. They have narrowly avoided relegation for a few years now, and with a focus on hurling and very little coming through the underage ranks, it appears only a matter of time before they make the drop.

Fair play to both Gort Na Mona and St Brigids who picked up impressive wins on the opening day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 05, 2019, 11:42:53 AM
Mark Sweeney will be a big miss off the Antrim panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 05, 2019, 01:11:00 PM
Big miss indeed, Mark's commitment levels over recent years beyond reproach. But really its not hard to understand, from two games into the league the footballers faced training multiple times per week with promotion off the agenda and a championship match v Tyrone to come. I am sure it was not an appealing prospect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 05, 2019, 08:25:10 PM
Mark was well respected within the squad and had developed into an excellent player, indeed one of Antrims main men. His decision to leave the panel was largely due to his increasing work commitments in Dublin where it wasn't easy to pull out of work three or four times a week at 5pm to get ahead of the traffic in time for training. He owes Antrim nothing and I'm sure the door is always open for his return should he decide to go back to the well one more time next year.

On the other foot, isn't it a good job not everyone adopted the same attitude towards having nothing else to play for!!!! Fair play to the rest who did decide to shoulder on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 09, 2019, 05:22:43 PM
Is gaelfast a county wide project now ? I see they r running an Easter camp in Dunloy. Nothing against North Antrim and Southwest getting funding but this spreading out of resources doesn't look like a Belfast project where the chronic need has been identified. Are they just claiming existing initiatives with this Dunloy Easter camp...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2019, 08:30:17 AM
to be honest i hadnt heard of this camp until i seen your post. Its not something we were advertising through our own club as we didnt have a previous easter camp.

id say they are just using our indoor facilities up till the 1pm time as theres a double Div1 fixture that day in our pitch against Cushendall so they wont be on the pitches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 10, 2019, 09:27:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 09, 2019, 05:22:43 PM
Is gaelfast a county wide project now ? I see they r running an Easter camp in Dunloy. Nothing against North Antrim and Southwest getting funding but this spreading out of resources doesn't look like a Belfast project where the chronic need has been identified. Are they just claiming existing initiatives with this Dunloy Easter camp...

And nothing in Cherryvale.  ;)

Might have to remind Dr Paul that this isn't purely an Antrim initiative next time I see him.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 10, 2019, 10:10:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 10, 2019, 08:30:17 AM
to be honest i hadnt heard of this camp until i seen your post. Its not something we were advertising through our own club as we didnt have a previous easter camp.

id say they are just using our indoor facilities up till the 1pm time as theres a double Div1 fixture that day in our pitch against Cushendall so they wont be on the pitches.

On the Thursday or Friday? I saw the dates were 25th & 26th April? Maybe I saw wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2019, 10:13:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 10, 2019, 10:10:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 10, 2019, 08:30:17 AM
to be honest i hadnt heard of this camp until i seen your post. Its not something we were advertising through our own club as we didnt have a previous easter camp.

id say they are just using our indoor facilities up till the 1pm time as theres a double Div1 fixture that day in our pitch against Cushendall so they wont be on the pitches.

On the Thursday or Friday? I saw the dates were 25th & 26th April? Maybe I saw wrong

:o my bad, i didnt read the dates for it!  :D

again it really shows how much i know about it lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 10, 2019, 01:45:17 PM
Poor city gaels get shafted again by their own!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 10, 2019, 06:39:39 PM
Solution would be to move Belfast up to the Glens, less to cry about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 10, 2019, 07:23:47 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 10, 2019, 06:39:39 PM
Solution would be to move Belfast up to the Glens, less to cry about
Just pointing out a fact not crying about it and no need to dry my eyes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
St. Paul's getting beat by Pearse's a pretty big result. Some interesting results too. St galls still will be there or thereabouts I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on April 11, 2019, 10:33:52 AM
massive result - how the mighty have fallen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 11, 2019, 10:42:11 AM
Have gotten to two league games. Portglenone and Creggans in the opening round. Creggan got off to a flyer and took a good lead, in total control playing good football, but Portglenone gradually got back into the game, couldn't decide whether it was a case of Creggan taking the foot off the gas or Portglenone digging in. Creggan put the game to rest in the final five anyway, and deservedly so. Not surprised to see Portglenone win convincingly in Gort Na Mona last night following their performance against Creggan. Same with Creggans result as well last night. Went to Cargins game last night. Average enough game, with spells of good football. Cargin like last year not busting a gut in the early stages with fitness etc. Lamh Dhearg after their first roundover the Johnnies looked poor to. Cargin won by 3/4 but could have won by 7/8 due to their sloppiness. Also the ref gave Lamh Dhearg 2/3 ridiculously easy frees in the second half which kept them in the game,  Ryan Murray was flying. Lets just say both teams have a bit of work to do. See St Galls up and flying early the year, same as last.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 11, 2019, 02:59:29 PM
St Paul's have been struggling at senior football for a number of years so no big surprise to me. With their recently departed chairman in charge of AllAntrimFast they will surely get some help there !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 11, 2019, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 11, 2019, 02:59:29 PM
St Paul's have been struggling at senior football for a number of years so no big surprise to me. With their recently departed chairman in charge of AllAntrimFast they will surely get some help there !

Surely a few extra quid from those wealthy culchies running a camp in Dunloy will help? I'm assuming any money raised will go to Gaelfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
Money won't win championships, or All Ireland's  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 12, 2019, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 11, 2019, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 11, 2019, 02:59:29 PM
St Paul's have been struggling at senior football for a number of years so no big surprise to me. With their recently departed chairman in charge of AllAntrimFast they will surely get some help there !

Surely a few extra quid from those wealthy culchies running a camp in Dunloy will help? I'm assuming any money raised will go to Gaelfast?

we get money for this?  ;D happy days lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 13, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
All banter aside I see Gaelfast was in crumlin  yesterday as well as running the Easter camp in Dunloy so this must mean they are taking over existing programs in all of the county. Anyone know if that's the plan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2019, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 13, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
All banter aside I see Gaelfast was in crumlin  yesterday as well as running the Easter camp in Dunloy so this must mean they are taking over existing programs in all of the county. Anyone know if that's the plan?

Why don't you ask someone that works for Gaelfast? That's a better plan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 13, 2019, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2019, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 13, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
All banter aside I see Gaelfast was in crumlin  yesterday as well as running the Easter camp in Dunloy so this must mean they are taking over existing programs in all of the county. Anyone know if that's the plan?

Why don't you ask someone that works for Gaelfast? That's a better plan
super idea GRMA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fuzzman on April 17, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
Where do you lads think the Antrim v Derry/Tyrone game will be held?
Is it likely to be a neutral venue like Armagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 17, 2019, 11:28:41 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 17, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
Where do you lads think the Antrim v Derry/Tyrone game will be held?
Is it likely to be a neutral venue like Armagh?

Id heard there the other week that it was going to be in Armagh. nothing official tho
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on April 17, 2019, 12:19:43 PM
Is it not the case that Antrim would need to find a venue to play Derry, but if in the likely event that Tyrone win the preliminary game then they would have home advantage to play Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 17, 2019, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: jdyok on April 17, 2019, 12:19:43 PM
Is it not the case that Antrim would need to find a venue to play Derry, but if in the likely event that Tyrone win the preliminary game then they would have home advantage to play Antrim.

no, tyrone cant play 2 home games in a row, nor derry cant play 2 away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 18, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
what's needed to host a county championship match? would temporary seating be an option at one of our grounds to give the team a home game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on April 23, 2019, 06:58:15 AM
Must give credit to our new County Chair for his alleged open, frank and honest approach recently in different discussions that have taken place around the Casement debacle, Casement does not belong to Antrim anymore and Corrigan will be the new county ground after its developed... whatever your club loyalties,  at least we now seem to be getting on with the basics internally and for that if true he must be credited for his direct and get things done approach long overdue. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 23, 2019, 03:51:10 PM
Is this in an interview with him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on April 23, 2019, 04:20:39 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on April 23, 2019, 06:58:15 AM
Must give credit to our new County Chair for his alleged open, frank and honest approach recently in different discussions that have taken place around the Casement debacle, Casement does not belong to Antrim anymore and Corrigan will be the new county ground after its developed... whatever your club loyalties,  at least we now seem to be getting on with the basics internally and for that if true he must be credited for his direct and get things done approach long overdue.
The smart thing would be to create two /3 county grounds.

Corrigan, Toome, Ballycastle.

spread the games.
Down , Armagh, Donegal, Fermanagh, Monaghan have two locations,,  Tyrone and Derry at least two.

Antrim, if interested in developing the whole county, should have a major centre in Belfast and two in the regions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
interesting article in todays irish news about the minor management disappointed in the lack of our players in the county panel.

he should do a bit of research into why our lads dont want to play rather than wonder why. he would get a good eye opener as to the reasons.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2019, 01:28:35 PM
What are the reasons DR? (I genuinely don't know so interested what they are)

Main thing that has stood out to me last few years is the lack of players your club has had given the success your club has had but in terms of conditions etc I wouldn't know.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2019, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2019, 01:28:35 PM
What are the reasons DR? (I genuinely don't know so interested what they are)

Main thing that has stood out to me last few years is the lack of players your club has had given the success your club has had but in terms of conditions etc I wouldn't know.



our lads went before and after they were there the management told the clubs management they were ok, that they were nothing special, that the county already had 4 or 5 of the same type of our best.

the young lads were told this and what was thought of them. naturally they said the county could go f**k themselves. they went on and won both the county minor hurling and football titles that season.

these lads are exceptionally good players and all were on the U21 team last year that got to the county final, the same lads who were deemed average at best.

id love them to be playing county and at a big scale but why would they when our hurling set up is on par with a county set up? they are well looked after, trained well, coached well, given gym programmes and rehab, physio treatment etc. They will go to whats the best around and our senior hurling set up is as good as it gets.

footballs a second sport despite the lads loving playing it

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 24, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Would the manager not be better talking about the players he has instead? Reads like a post mortem days BEFORE the match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 24, 2019, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 24, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Would the manager not be better talking about the players he has instead? Reads like a post mortem days BEFORE the match

Correct me if I'm wrong but is minor club football in Antrim not still U18?

So if this years minor IC team are U17, a better barometer of club strength would have been last years club U16 champions, no?

Might still be Dunloy for all i know...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2019, 04:52:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 24, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Would the manager not be better talking about the players he has instead? Reads like a post mortem days BEFORE the match

Lol exactly.You would think wouldn't you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
Some interesting results in division 1. St Brigid st galls draw, st endas beat by gorts and Cargin beating Creggan well. (The rest probably as expected).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 28, 2019, 10:07:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
Some interesting results in division 1. St Brigid st galls draw, st endas beat by gorts and Cargin beating Creggan well. (The rest probably as expected).

St Endas getting bt is a surprise, looks like they aren't going to push on this season, four games in they should be improving instead of regressing, getting into the top 6 is crucial to their development. Casements doing well to date, but they lost the only game they played against one of the top teams, jurys out? Grt result for St Brigids. They won't be dropping down. Went to Creggans game, out classed and in truth could have lost by a lot more. They were short four good players but Cargin were short three starters I counted as well. I think they play St Galls next, its a big game for them I feel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 28, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
With NE paying a hurling manager too this year maybe the players are being stretched more than before. They r flying in the hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on April 28, 2019, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 28, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
With NE paying a hurling manager too this year maybe the players are being stretched more than before. They r flying in the hurling
No different from any other season tbf, injuries to a couple of our work horse players has left us stretched us to the point that any amount  of talent will not compensate for. We need to get a grip of this soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 30, 2019, 10:33:40 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 28, 2019, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 28, 2019, 01:44:49 PM
With NE paying a hurling manager too this year maybe the players are being stretched more than before. They r flying in the hurling
No different from any other season tbf, injuries to a couple of our work horse players has left us stretched us to the point that any amount  of talent will not compensate for. We need to get a grip of this soon.

its difficult to do but with a bit of common sense it can work. we have a good balance at the moment with the hurling set up and players get rested from training for both teams. same goes with matches as well, they dont get played all the time if they hurled at the weekend for instance and then ask them to play on a weds night in the football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2019, 03:22:01 PM
Some interesting results again last night. Portglenone drawing with the johnnies. St Teresa seem to have stepped it up a bit too. You'd have expected st brigids to be too strong for them.

Division 2 seems quite open as well with results looking up and down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 02, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
Didn't make any games yesterday evening, but for me the notable result was three defeats in a row for Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2019, 03:32:41 PM
Where is the corner forward Liam Quinn? I thought he was one of their better players last year but doesn't look to be about this year.

(I suspect with winning the league last year they may be more worried about peaking for c'ship too.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 02, 2019, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 02, 2019, 03:32:41 PM
Where is the corner forward Liam Quinn? I thought he was one of their better players last year but doesn't look to be about this year.

(I suspect with winning the league last year they may be more worried about peaking for c'ship too.)

Liam Quinn is injured - think he played in their first league game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
Saffron Gael coverage is top class across all leagues - fair play
No big surprises for me in Div 1 except Aghagallon's performance and maybe Creggan going to concentrate on Championships
Rossa shoe in for Div 2 and NPol finding their feet in Div 3 and will climb up the league in the weeks and months ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2019, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
Saffron Gael coverage is top class across all leagues - fair play
No big surprises for me in Div 1 except Aghagallon's performance and maybe Creggan going to concentrate on Championships
Rossa shoe in for Div 2 and NPol finding their feet in Div 3 and will climb up the league in the weeks and months ahead

It really does make you more interested and aware as to what's going on. Great service. Not so sure on st pauls - I think they might be a while down in that division yet though I see they have been winning at feile level so maybe will come good when they get some of their youth through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 02, 2019, 11:30:49 PM
Just to back up comments on Saffron Gael - superb really. I hope those involved are getting something out of it, I know individuals and clubs can sponsor, buy ads etc. Keep it up folks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 03, 2019, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 02, 2019, 03:32:41 PM
Where is the corner forward Liam Quinn? I thought he was one of their better players last year but doesn't look to be about this year.

(I suspect with winning the league last year they may be more worried about peaking for c'ship too.)

What, they didn't peak for the championship last year? They are not St Galls or Cargin who know what it takes. No, make no mistake this is a slump, and certainly not by design. Loosing three league games in a row to your main contenders is not preparation for anything. Cargin won the championship last year and came third in the league and as far I am know played most of the league with many injuries. There will be concern in Creggan at this dip.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on May 03, 2019, 04:53:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
Saffron Gael coverage is top class across all leagues - fair play
No big surprises for me in Div 1 except Aghagallon's performance and maybe Creggan going to concentrate on Championships
Rossa shoe in for Div 2 and NPol finding their feet in Div 3 and will climb up the league in the weeks and months ahead

To be fair to them, they did play the johnnies, Galls, Creggan and Cargin in four out of the first five matches. No mean feat to get results out of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
I see Glenarm is the latest place Gaelfast has visited following Crumlin and Dunloy. It looks like my fears are true and Gaelfast is just claiming Go Games, Easter Camps etc that were already happening and going to places where GAA is already strong

Anyone else see it too? I had hoped this would bring NEW initiatives to parts of Belfast where GAA is weak
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2019, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
I see Glenarm is the latest place Gaelfast has visited following Crumlin and Dunloy. It looks like my fears are true and Gaelfast is just claiming Go Games, Easter Camps etc that were already happening and going to places where GAA is already strong

Anyone else see it too? I had hoped this would bring NEW initiatives to parts of Belfast where GAA is weak

Look at you! Would you wind your neck in. Embarrassing tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2019, 09:24:29 AM
embarrassing? committed Gael wondering what's going on that's all - wind your neck in lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2019, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2019, 09:24:29 AM
embarrassing? committed Gael wondering what's going on that's all - wind your neck in lad

Go and ask the workers at Gaelfast, not sure on the committed Gael if all you've done is run it down. One man up at Glenarm, which unless you've been told porkies isn't a strong Gael area.

I get it if you've missed the boat on a job with Gaelfast but go ask questions to people who know, you'll not get them on this site
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 07, 2019, 07:22:26 PM
The Gaelfast official twitter bio says it's pioneering initiative to re-ignite enthusiasm and involvement in the GAA in Belfast and Antrim.

Surely Glenarm deserve something to? Let's not make a country/city split over this, sure if it benefits the whole county then it's a good thing is it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2019, 08:52:40 AM
the gaelfast event ran at our place was a great success. woody was there and took the whole thing with hired coaches from different clubs who have all got jobs with them.

my nephew was there for the 2 days and loved it. If your getting one of the best coaches about in Woody then its a win win for everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2019, 11:59:43 AM
I actually did a football session with him many years ago and have to say I thought he was fantastic. (I don't know why he was there for a football session mind but I think it was to mix it up!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 09, 2019, 07:42:44 AM
no big shocks last night , st johns and cargin would be have been a good one for the neutral, good wins for gorts Ld and pg1. Kickams back on track also. The lurgan men will be glad to see them first 6 fixtures out of the way and will hope to try and pick up a few points now however the men visiting from the glen road will be as hungry as any.

Glenravel seemed to have picked things up in div 2 and nobody will be touching rossa this year- resharkin and Lisburn look in real danger.

tight at the top of division 3 to!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 09, 2019, 09:15:52 AM
Rossa would be a decent division one side when they have all their players available. The last couple of years must have been very frustrating for them.

Wouldn't read too much into the Casements win as St Endas were missing half the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2019, 07:22:26 PM
The Gaelfast official twitter bio says it's pioneering initiative to re-ignite enthusiasm and involvement in the GAA in Belfast and Antrim.

Surely Glenarm deserve something to? Let's not make a country/city split over this, sure if it benefits the whole county then it's a good thing is it not
I would love all Antrim to get money but this is money for Belfast only - see launch article from county website
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 09, 2019, 07:39:09 PM
The county website info is specifically Belfast.
No doubt that other areas need help too. You should ask the Gaelfast team next time they are in Belfast to clarify this ie not up the country.. Looking at minor leagues some traditionally strong city clubs are in Div, there must be an issue with participation lwvels.
Dunloy leading the way with no Gaelfast assistance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2019, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2019, 07:22:26 PM
The Gaelfast official twitter bio says it's pioneering initiative to re-ignite enthusiasm and involvement in the GAA in Belfast and Antrim.

Surely Glenarm deserve something to? Let's not make a country/city split over this, sure if it benefits the whole county then it's a good thing is it not
I would love all Antrim to get money but this is money for Belfast only - see launch article from county website
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched

Are you still pissed at not getting selected for the post?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 10, 2019, 12:07:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2019, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2019, 07:22:26 PM
The Gaelfast official twitter bio says it's pioneering initiative to re-ignite enthusiasm and involvement in the GAA in Belfast and Antrim.

Surely Glenarm deserve something to? Let's not make a country/city split over this, sure if it benefits the whole county then it's a good thing is it not
I would love all Antrim to get money but this is money for Belfast only - see launch article from county website
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched

Are you still pissed at not getting selected for the post?
Don't know why I'm replying to this nonsense but I never applied for a Gaelfast post nor have any plan to. Read the county website link I posted and you will see the facts that this was to be Belfast only, Belfast City Council etc
I welcome all money for Antrim and for Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 10, 2019, 12:07:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2019, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2019, 07:22:26 PM
The Gaelfast official twitter bio says it's pioneering initiative to re-ignite enthusiasm and involvement in the GAA in Belfast and Antrim.

Surely Glenarm deserve something to? Let's not make a country/city split over this, sure if it benefits the whole county then it's a good thing is it not
I would love all Antrim to get money but this is money for Belfast only - see launch article from county website
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched

Are you still pissed at not getting selected for the post?
Don't know why I'm replying to this nonsense but I never applied for a Gaelfast post nor have any plan to. Read the county website link I posted and you will see the facts that this was to be Belfast only, Belfast City Council etc
I welcome all money for Antrim and for Belfast

Id say 95% of the stuff is coming to Belfast, 5% heading out but staying in Antrim is a good thing to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 12, 2019, 08:58:45 PM
Expected teams at top of Div 1 and Ahoghill looked doomed at the bottom....not sure who will join them in being relegated though....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 13, 2019, 08:48:12 AM
Div 2 looks as tight as ever, a few points seperating a 5 or 6 teams. Few shocks this year, Tir Na Og seem to be struggling. Hand fancied them to kick on this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on May 13, 2019, 09:00:20 AM
manager walked out after a few games due to players not committing - st galls will be kicking themselves after yesterdays result -  no surprises with the top 6 and bottom 6 , ld struggled past st endas I see and cargin put casements in their box- ahoghill struggling big time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 17, 2019, 06:30:44 PM
Anyone at saffron business forum today? Did the chairman give a casement update?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 20, 2019, 07:29:43 PM
There's going into a first round Ulster Championship game under the radar, and then there's this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 20, 2019, 09:23:07 PM
Sssssshhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 21, 2019, 03:56:45 PM
the lack of a build up is part of a cunning plan to lull Tyrone into over confidence!  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 21, 2019, 04:49:05 PM
Can we not discuss Brexit instead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
It seems an easier challenge than antrim beating tyrone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2019, 09:25:14 AM
whens the the qualifiers?

thats what we should be looking to cause unless the Tyrone players go on the piss sat night and play with 10 players we wont get close to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 22, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
they can go on the Piss on sat night if they want as the match in sat evening! You mustn't have bought your ticket yet!

Pointless match just shows need for tiered Championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 22, 2019, 09:16:18 PM
The preparation sounds like it's been a bit of a joke. Fair played to the lads who are hanging in and trying their best because it couldn't be easy being an Antrim footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on May 22, 2019, 10:45:23 PM
Catch yourselves on lads, it's a football match between 30-42 or so local men, all of whom are super fit and surely playing competitive football most of their lives, how can it not be finely balanced ?

Assuming Antrim pick from a potential players pool of 109,653 twenty to thirty-four year old taigs, spread in 34 senior teams, Tyrone from an equivalent pool of 48,019 in 49 senior teams,  this is an imbalance.

The math is elementary, we all know it...
Must be a culture thing; twenty year CB compunction maybe, or more...

Ps and they say there are too many teams in Belfast... 8)

Pss we'll park casement in the shortstay for now.

Psss the phrase brexit will be consigned to the history books soon, same as Ukexit or GB&Niexit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 23, 2019, 09:17:27 AM
Best of luck to all concerned.  Hopefully the players will rise to the occasion.  If we scrap for every ball and play a good brand of football then that's all we ask, put some pride into the jersey.  I'll only be on here moaning on Sunday if we are pedestrian and use negative tactics (the Marshes last year).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 23, 2019, 09:27:40 AM
In Colm Coopers book he has a chapter where he talks about his admiration for players in the weaker counties. Its easy for players in Tyrone and Kerry to be highly motivated and giving a massive commitment when they are seen as heroes in their community, have big financial backing and a realistic chance of reaching the latter stages of the All Ireland and playing in front of 40,000 people.

In Antrim we have players putting in the same hours every week, making the same commitment and getting no thanks or respect from anyone. Playing in front of just 30 people at Corrigan Park. Some of them probably getting bad manners for choosing to commit to county instead of just their own club. Its hard to find a good reason why any of them would want to be there, but they are. 

Lets keep that in mind if they are hammered by Tyrone and are being ridiculed in the media and throughout the country.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2019, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 22, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
they can go on the Piss on sat night if they want as the match in sat evening! You mustn't have bought your ticket yet!

Pointless match just shows need for tiered Championship

no, most def not.

I dont want to see our county get beat but thats the reality of where we are. we not good enough to compete and a tiered championship is whats needed. Its been required for a long time but sadly theres too many counties feel they should be competing for Sam, despite the fact that they will never come close to winning it.

The hurling has proved that it works and that teams are where they can be to compete and get more games. Its just the lack of coverage thats killing  it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 24, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Good luck to the boys tomorrow night and regardless of the result fair play to them for the effort they put in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 25, 2019, 07:23:44 PM
Wheres Bannside at?  Need some optimism at this juncture 😕
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 25, 2019, 07:39:49 PM
Wouldn't be too hard on the team.  Nightmare draw and played with a bit of enterprise.  Some good spells going forward.  Just a group of decent club players plugging away against a top team who are years in the making.  Fitzpatrick is really the only quality we have.  He'd make a lot of teams.  No quick fixes, when you're at the bottom it's tough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on May 25, 2019, 08:33:14 PM
Definitely no shame in that performance from Antrim, never realised there were so many not wanting to play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 25, 2019, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2019, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on May 25, 2019, 08:33:14 PM
Definitely no shame in that performance from Antrim, never realised there were so many not wanting to play
That's a red herring. They wouldn't be a pile better than the lads who were playing. Not a jot of difference would it make.

Ah come on........a cargin / st galls  combo would be better on their own
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2019, 07:10:27 AM
Slightly improve? We have 4 players of county grade playing and no one from our top two clubs are deemed good enough or worth chasing.  No one is expecting us to beat a tyrone but never has the gulf been bigger than right now. If tyrone hadnt taken the foot off the gas it could have been truely shocking. If there has been a worse antrim team in living memory then please remind us as ive never seen it.  Ten years ago we looked to be finally starting to competete, now we look in reverse. Regardless of talent, physically we dont look at it. And that is unforgiveable.

Mentally Antrim looked beat before the game started. That cant be right and since when do you see players and management  chatting and laughing during a hiding in a championship match?

Big problems but sure we say that every year and it never changes. Casement, dunsilly, div 4, lenny, that tyrone match, idiocy of corrigan......we're at rock bottom.

Only way is up - can Saffron Vision PLEASE action the playing side this summer as a priority!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 26, 2019, 08:31:33 AM
The Antrim Twitter feed is constantly going about how the poor lads have no home ground #ReBuildCasement. Needless to say they never respond to retorts from Antrim gaels asking why they closed it down years before they needed to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 08:55:21 AM
Physically we had one or two players that met the Tyrone lads. There is no reason if you're a county player to at the very least present yourself physically at the same  level of the opposition.

On the match it was akin to Liverpool playing Southend. The difference between a div 1 team and a rock bottom div 4 team is very evident.

Tyrone got their scores as you'd expect very easily and we fought very hard for each of our scores and the chances we had to improve on that were lost in case to losing possession in a tackle.

I thought when we had possession we were very good, took the goals well and didn't embarrass themselves with our discipline.

I don't think in all honesty had we our best players available we'd have improved much on that score line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2019, 09:16:13 AM
The age demographic of Cargin and st galls should be taken into consideration too.

Really I doubt what happened yesterday would ever have been much different. Look what happened Louth and they are division 3 and weren't that far from promotion.

Those 2 games illustrated the huge difference between the top few teams and the lower reaches of the league.

Mr I would disagree with your first point. The setups of Tyrone, Dublin etc etc are hugely professional on the fitness and conditioning side. They also have squads with a lot of continuity. The fitness levels Tyrone have takes a few years to get too. We have massive flux every year so only see gains year on year with a few players.We were always going to struggle to match their fitness levels.

Yesterday illustrated that the football championship in current format really doesn't work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2019, 09:35:59 AM
Might be a bit harsh but for people to say we were beat the way we were because of no cargin or st galls players is nonsense. They are ageing teams.

Our best are just a million miles away from Tyrone and there is probably a phd's worth of reasons as to why.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
I get what you are saying but, if I'm training for something I'll get myself to a level that I want to compete at, you set goals and try and achieve them.

I pay 30 odd quid a month for gym membership if I wanted to physically get to a standard I'd have to put the effort in and work out. Some people go to the gym and fart about the ones that don't are on show yesterday, unfortunately being a gifted footballer won't cut the mustard if you are easily beat in a a tackle or unable to win the race to a ball.

Having a fitness coach or dietician telling you what you already know you need to do is a cop out IMO of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 26, 2019, 10:00:31 AM
Did the BBC only realise Casement was closed yesterday? they are a bit late with their correct shaming of the GAA for neglecting our 2nd city

As Lenny said Gaelfast is a primary school initiative we need something aimed at teenagers or we will have to wait to 2030 to see improvement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2019, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
I get what you are saying but, if I'm training for something I'll get myself to a level that I want to compete at, you set goals and try and achieve them.

I pay 30 odd quid a month for gym membership if I wanted to physically get to a standard I'd have to put the effort in and work out. Some people go to the gym and fart about the ones that don't are on show yesterday, unfortunately being a gifted footballer won't cut the mustard if you are easily beat in a a tackle or unable to win the race to a ball.

Having a fitness coach or dietician telling you what you already know you need to do is a cop out IMO of course

This is elite level stuff though with a lot of sports science behind it. I don't think joe bloggs off the street could get to those levels without a very qualified fitness coach. A lot of pts in gyms would not be in that camp I suspect.

I get part of what you are saying but the level of the top teams in fitness and conditioning is very advanced. Personally I think you can get yourself very fit but I don't think you can get to that level.

To me it is one of the big reasons the gaps are starting to become what they are in inter county football. Yes ability and to be honest mainly organisation but the difference in conditioning between top and bottom teams is huge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 26, 2019, 12:36:31 PM
We were much improved on the shambles in Newry last year so management and players deserve some credit for that.  I can't get my head around the two tier system - I'd fear we would disappear off the map altogether.  Still think playing like we did yesterday we would give quite a few teams across the country a game, it's not that long ago the same Tyrone team hammered Armagh in an All Ireland Quarterfinal. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 12:50:35 PM
On a positive note, we had some players on show yesterday that didn't look out of place in a top tier team, we just need 20 of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 26, 2019, 03:08:34 PM
I think most of St Galls main men are 30 plus and wouldn't have time for county commitment - Cargin should have plenty involved but I'd say their Derry managers over the last few years don't get a F... about Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 03:10:40 PM
Most of Cargin's would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
I get what you are saying but, if I'm training for something I'll get myself to a level that I want to compete at, you set goals and try and achieve them.

I pay 30 odd quid a month for gym membership if I wanted to physically get to a standard I'd have to put the effort in and work out. Some people go to the gym and fart about the ones that don't are on show yesterday, unfortunately being a gifted footballer won't cut the mustard if you are easily beat in a a tackle or unable to win the race to a ball.

Having a fitness coach or dietician telling you what you already know you need to do is a cop out IMO of course

You know whats so funny about your last sentence is that your that ignorant or stupid you don't know your one or the other.
Quote from: Sportacus on May 26, 2019, 12:36:31 PM
We were much improved on the shambles in Newry last year so management and players deserve some credit for that.  I can't get my head around the two tier system - I'd fear we would disappear off the map altogether.  Still think playing like we did yesterday we would give quite a few teams across the country a game, it's not that long ago the same Tyrone team hammered Armagh in an All Ireland Quarterfinal. 


You do realise Tyrone took off their three main scoring men 5 minutes into the second half which meant we didn't get bt by 30 pts. There are about 4 teams at best we would beat. Our league performance is evidence if that this year and the last 5 ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 04:28:59 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 03:10:40 PM
Most of Cargin's would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Crozier & Tomas McCann

Thats 4, hardly 'most' 30/31 yr olds badly needed, big experience
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
I get what you are saying but, if I'm training for something I'll get myself to a level that I want to compete at, you set goals and try and achieve them.

I pay 30 odd quid a month for gym membership if I wanted to physically get to a standard I'd have to put the effort in and work out. Some people go to the gym and fart about the ones that don't are on show yesterday, unfortunately being a gifted footballer won't cut the mustard if you are easily beat in a a tackle or unable to win the race to a ball.

Having a fitness coach or dietician telling you what you already know you need to do is a cop out IMO of course

You know whats so funny about your last sentence is that your that ignorant or stupid you don't know your one or the other.
Quote from: Sportacus on May 26, 2019, 12:36:31 PM

Funny or arrogant? Getting fit and doing strength and conditioning is about being committed, no one said it's easy, if it was then we'd all be at it, but if you're serious about being a county footballer ( any county ) you'll (or should) make yourself the best you can be. And in today's environment that's improving your body strength and that involves doing weights, it won't take a season or two but you can with coaching from a PT get physically into shape.

Yesterday's game, the first comment was men against boys and that was about the physical side of things, never mind the footballing terms.

Training for triathlons I'd have been up at 6.30, hitting the pool for 60-80 lengths before work back after work for running, weights followed by a spin on the bike, that was when I was mid 40's! These lads are young men with the chance to play in big games representing their county. I can't totally blame management for players not being physically fit, unless they've not done any training
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2019, 06:15:57 PM
Not often i agree with MR but hes spot on here. Bit of ownership needed for some 'wannabe' county players.  You need the physicality before even attempting to play county...it looked like men against boys yesterday.  Where were the coahes?  What have these do called county men been doing with their physiques as past few years???? Amatuers in a sport that isnt amateur any more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 04:28:59 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 26, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 03:10:40 PM
Most of Cargin's would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Crozier & Tomas McCann

Thats 4, hardly 'most' 30/31 yr olds badly needed, big experience
Sorry, I updated. You tell me, what Cargin players under 30 would make a real difference to Antrim?



John McNabb; Marty Kane Justin Crozier James Laverty
Paul McCann jamie gribben ciaran bradley john carron gerard mccann to name but a few .....  ffs thats not even mentioning the over 30s who are still the fittest men in the county!  Mick mccann has been the greatest player antrim has produced in a lifetime with fitness levels up with the best of them at 33 and hes sitting at home with the feet up.coz we're a shambles!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2019, 07:00:00 PM
So no matter what names we put forward arent good enough?    Convienent that.    Would they be better? Simple answer yes.  And thats just the cargin players


Mick mccann an alright club player??? How many club matches do you watch?? Obviously none.
Ffs hes the best player in the county  now and as past 15 years and still one of the fittest, still only 33. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2019, 09:00:11 PM
Nothing was as bad as yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 26, 2019, 10:02:16 PM
Dont you mean 'some' cargin and st galls.players played in those games?? 

We've hit rock bottom and are getting worse.  Players yesterday in the main arent county quality.   Management doeant appear to be county level.  Strength and conditioning doesnt appear to be county level. 

If ever the county board needed a wake up call to the dire state of our county panel then yesterday was it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 10:28:11 PM
We scored 2-09 against a top tier competitive team. We could have scored more but didn't take some chances, Tyrone would hammer all div 4 teams.

My gripe is we should be at least looking to have our whole  squad up to a physical standard (there was a few meeting the standard) then the management can at least put their plan in place!

In general we've always had players that were physically smaller than our opponents! Hurling also, we need to produce bigger players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 27, 2019, 08:52:08 AM
Tyrone are one of the very best conditioned teams in the country. Their preparation is on another level. We are simply not in a position to match them at this stage.

I also think nerves played a big part on our own fitness levels. A lot of our players looked nervous and probably had heavy legs. They looked off the pace by their own standards in the first half, never mind Tyrone's standards.

Fair play to them for persevering and playing with a bit of pride in the second half when it would have been easy to capitulate completely.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 27, 2019, 09:05:11 AM
Antrim away to Louth next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 28, 2019, 09:13:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2019, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 26, 2019, 10:02:16 PM
Dont you mean 'some' cargin and st galls.players played in those games?? 

We've hit rock bottom and are getting worse.  Players yesterday in the main arent county quality.   Management doeant appear to be county level.  Strength and conditioning doesnt appear to be county level. 

If ever the county board needed a wake up call to the dire state of our county panel then yesterday was it
We've been the whipping boys of Ulster football for 40 years. We've had worse days than yesterday. Many of them.
We don't have the players in the entire county to make us competitive with anyone in Ulster.

Id say thats spot on to describe where we are.

We have been the weakest county in Ulster for a long long time and only for the tiered structure in Hurling we would be the same in it as well.

I watched the game sat night and was impressed with how the lads stuck to it and never gave up. took some good scores but truth be told Tyrone werent even going full pace at us and were taking players off to rest them very early doors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2019, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 10:28:11 PM
We scored 2-09 against a top tier competitive team. We could have scored more but didn't take some chances, Tyrone would hammer all div 4 teams.

My gripe is we should be at least looking to have our whole  squad up to a physical standard (there was a few meeting the standard) then the management can at least put their plan in place!

In general we've always had players that were physically smaller than our opponents! Hurling also, we need to produce bigger players

They would hammer most division 2 teams. Also look what Dublin did to Louth who had 14 men for most of the game.

Agree on the physical size. Hurling and football we always seem to not produce many physically big players for whatever reason.

We have won about 5 ulster c'ship matches in my lifetime and I'm far from a child! It is beginning to look like there will be a second tier. It will be interesting to see how that pans out. It could help us or it could be the death of county football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gelvis on May 28, 2019, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2019, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2019, 10:28:11 PM
We scored 2-09 against a top tier competitive team. We could have scored more but didn't take some chances, Tyrone would hammer all div 4 teams.

My gripe is we should be at least looking to have our whole  squad up to a physical standard (there was a few meeting the standard) then the management can at least put their plan in place!

In general we've always had players that were physically smaller than our opponents! Hurling also, we need to produce bigger players

They would hammer most division 2 teams. Also look what Dublin did to Louth who had 14 men for most of the game.

Agree on the physical size. Hurling and football we always seem to not produce many physically big players for whatever reason.

We have won about 5 ulster c'ship matches in my lifetime and I'm far from a child! It is beginning to look like there will be a second tier. It will be interesting to see how that pans out. It could help us or it could be the death of county football.

I see there has been a similar discussion about size and conditioning on the Derry pages after their game v Tyrone.  Derry would surely have a more settled squad than Antrim over the last few years and also have the well conditioned S'neil players.

Are Tyrone doing something different to both of us then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2019, 09:39:46 AM
Yes lol. They have had a stable squad for years now and anyone that comes in it takes a few years to get them up to the fitness level required. I think Peter Donnelly who used to play for them is their conditioning guy and seems to do a great job of it. I actually think Dublin's physical conditioning is a level up from Tyrone too.

Derry haven't been that settled either squad wise - similar to us really. If you read into it they have quite a few dropouts. Club football conditioning is a different level to county so even boys looking good at club level it still takes a big step up. Really I think they have the same kind of issues to us though their club football is of a higher standard I would think.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 28, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
taken from the President John Horan this morning on RTE radio.

With the big gap in result, if you look at the [football qualifier] draw we've made this morning, you see a large number of Divison 3 and 4 teams are already in the qualifier section.

Our hope will be at the next central council meeting in June to bring forward proposals to look at the introduction of a Tier 2 Championship for those teams in Division 3 and 4.

There's an appetite out there within the organisation to go ahead with a Tier 2 Championship and now is the time to grab that while the appetite is out there and I think we will possibly get it through at Central Council.

If we do we'll call a Special Congress in September/October to look at putting it forward to maybe having it introduced next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 05, 2019, 03:01:14 PM
County footballers away to Louth this weekend in the qualifiers. Probably a 50/50 game. Hopefully they can follow the hurlers example last weekend and get a good win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 05, 2019, 05:48:11 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 28, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
taken from the President John Horan this morning on RTE radio.

With the big gap in result, if you look at the [football qualifier] draw we've made this morning, you see a large number of Divison 3 and 4 teams are already in the qualifier section.

Our hope will be at the next central council meeting in June to bring forward proposals to look at the introduction of a Tier 2 Championship for those teams in Division 3 and 4.

There's an appetite out there within the organisation to go ahead with a Tier 2 Championship and now is the time to grab that while the appetite is out there and I think we will possibly get it through at Central Council.

If we do we'll call a Special Congress in September/October to look at putting it forward to maybe having it introduced next year.
I really don't think this works for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 05, 2019, 10:49:17 PM
If the tiered system runs in parallel to the existing provincial championship, and grade 2 or B only kicks in after a lower level team gets their fair crack at the provincial, then it can work. I don't think there was too much wrong with the old Tommy Murphy Cup. We reached 2 finals in a row, winning it in 2008, the year before reaching the Ulster Final and winning first of 2 successive promotions.

We broke our dismal Ulster Championship sequence in 2000, year after winning the old All Ireland B Championship.

Surely those 2 wins can be seen as having had some part in the subsequent successful seasons?

Under the Tommy Murphy Cup format our match this weekend would be in the 2nd tier, in a completion we could compete in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 05, 2019, 11:22:14 PM
That would be fair enough Brendan, I wouldn't want to see us being excluded from the big day in the Ulster Championship.  But I fear a lot of people envisage a hurling system.  Now should our hurlers win this weekend then there will be a big buzz and maybe it proves that it can work, but I'd fear if we are dropped into a lower tier in football  then it will be a big setback for football in the County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2019, 11:54:25 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 05, 2019, 11:22:14 PM
That would be fair enough Brendan, I wouldn't want to see us being excluded from the big day in the Ulster Championship.  But I fear a lot of people envisage a hurling system.  Now should our hurlers win this weekend then there will be a big buzz and maybe it proves that it can work, but I'd fear if we are dropped into a lower tier in football  then it will be a big setback for football in the County.

Big set back? Ok let's visualise where we are currently and for the best part of 60 plus years. Bottom run of the ladder, we get get set back any further than we currently are and have been. Playing our level and competing with similar teams, with a view of promotion to a higher tier would be a better carrot than what we have now.

I struggle to understand how the likes of Louth Wicklow Clare Sligo and up on till recently Leitrim get out playing in their current championship format.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2019, 07:33:41 AM
It would be a big setback if we were constantly improving and competing but we are not.

How would it set us back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 06, 2019, 08:09:49 AM
If we stay in Ulster Championship then fair enough, I said that.  But there's an agenda from some to see a fully blown 2nd tier which I would oppose because any little crumb of profile that we enjoy at the moment would go up in smoke. Such a 2nd tier would be a backwater.  Media won't be interested, supporters won't be interested, coverage will be next to nothing and apathy will multiply.  I'm not in favour of the rich getting richer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2019, 08:48:17 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 06, 2019, 08:09:49 AM
If we stay in Ulster Championship then fair enough, I said that.  But there's an agenda from some to see a fully blown 2nd tier which I would oppose because any little crumb of profile that we enjoy at the moment would go up in smoke. Such a 2nd tier would be a backwater.  Media won't be interested, supporters won't be interested, coverage will be next to nothing and apathy will multiply.  I'm not in favour of the rich getting richer.

But in favour of the humiliating defeats against Tyrone Donegal Monagahan Armagh (Ive left out Fermanagh, Cavan, Down and Derry who ant present would beat us also)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2019, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 06, 2019, 08:09:49 AM
If we stay in Ulster Championship then fair enough, I said that.  But there's an agenda from some to see a fully blown 2nd tier which I would oppose because any little crumb of profile that we enjoy at the moment would go up in smoke. Such a 2nd tier would be a backwater.  Media won't be interested, supporters won't be interested, coverage will be next to nothing and apathy will multiply.  I'm not in favour of the rich getting richer.

This year on year beating we are getting is not improving us at all though and you can see more and more apathy towards the county setup. Something has to give.

I would agree to a point though that I would worry about the GAA's agenda with 2nd tiers. I also am not sure I subscribe to the theory that throwing more money at it will solve the issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 06, 2019, 08:57:33 AM
lets be truthful, we arent good enough to compete at the level we are in. We're the Waterford in Munster, the Louth in Leninster, the Leitrim in Connaght. we are that team that everyone wants to draw for a guaranteed win.

It pains me to write that but its the very harsh truth. We are where we deserve to be.

My first reaction to the tiered hurling was the one of anger and disgust. how could we be treated like this, we are too good for this Christy Ring shite!

But the hard truth was that it was our level and we, at that time, were not good enough. Fast forward a few years and were in the Joe McDonagh cup, a competition that the media ignore but one that has produced the most competitive hurling we have had in years. We have 5 teams who all can beat each other, who are all on their day on a same level with each other. the games are extremely competitive with a massive prize at the other end for the winner and a massive drop down for the bottom team.

The two tiers will come in, no matter how much we moan about it, mainly because the bigger counties dont want to play a pointless game e.g. Dublin v Louth. No one gains from that game or a fixture like that.

I dont know what format it will take but if it gives us 4 good games like our hurlers are getting how can that be a bad thing? If we win on sat we have a final in Croke Park and then another guaranteed game in the Liam McCarthy Cup. 6 championship  games, all at a level we can compete at.

to me that is better than 2 beatings every single season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2019, 09:53:34 AM
My view would be the same as yours DR. I don't think we would lose anything from being in a 2nd tier. We might get more winnable games.(Although I would be hopeful we will win saturday night)

I'm not sure on the GAA's agenda on it but that's a different story. To be honest if they do this they should be able to compress the county season making more time for club football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2019, 10:27:10 AM
They have to make it better than the Tommy Murphy if it is to fly at all though. As someone else said in some post somewhere on this board it is very likely this will happen whether we like it or not anyway. They can't just make it best of some set of losers so need to think very carefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 06, 2019, 11:00:46 AM
Is the hurling model a true comparison? We'd be upper 2nd tier in hurling so it's always going to offer possibilities to Antrim. I just don't think it's the answer in football, more like just another straw to clutch at and the impact could be quite negative. For instance young lads need to have the dream of playing for their County on the big day.  I don't think there will be any big days for us in 2nd tier.  Don't forget we've been to an Ulster Final more recently than Armagh and Cavan who are both enjoying the limelight at the moment and their young lads, 11 and 12 year olds, will be catching the bug.  Our answers lie in a whole series of things that need to be done within our county to get the County team motoring again, not changing the competition.  We'll be so far down the pecking order in a 2nd tier that I would fear the life will go out of the thing altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 06, 2019, 12:07:07 PM
id say you will find the provisional championships go the same way as the hurling - group games where the winners go through to the Ulster final for instance and the bottom team relegated to the 2nd tier.

the winners of the second tier play a 3rd/4th place team in the next round.

Its only a rough idea but its more or less the same model as the hurling. they still have the lenister and munster finals in each case.

On another note i do think that we will beat Louth this weekend and move onto another game but if getting 2 games a year guaranteed is what people want to stay in the current format then we will continue down the same path we are on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2019, 01:53:51 PM
Sportacus is the big day really a big day any more though? There was barely a post on here in the run up to the tyrone game and the attendance wasn't great either. I didn't see that as a big day and thought there was less enthusiasm about it than there has been in a long time in antrim and that is saying something.

The Louth game is a different prospect - we have a genuine chance of winning it. At least most games should be winnable or there's a glimmer of hope.

Sadly our county team has never been motoring during my life anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 06, 2019, 03:18:33 PM
I can't say we've had too many big days, but there's always a bit of profile and talk in the run up to the first round.  This year was extreme because it was Tyrone. I'm not arguing that we don't need a big change, I'm just arguing that 2nd tier could see us disappear altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 06, 2019, 04:48:34 PM
i know what your saying Sportacus but at the same is that any different to whats happening to us now.

we're now of them counties referred to as in serious need of help to find out whats going on in the media but in reality they dont actually give one toss about us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 07, 2019, 03:54:47 PM
Casement / Gaelfast for secondary schools / 2nd tier championship

These 3 ALL done well are what we need - 1 won't improve the space we are in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2019, 08:25:48 PM
7 points up. Louth down to 13. Hopefully we can hold on to that lead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 08, 2019, 08:40:14 PM
Louth for the 2nd tier.  Shouldn't be playing at our level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
Yeeeooo. Something to shout about today after the disappointment of the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 08, 2019, 09:26:58 PM
gaelfast kicking in already  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 09, 2019, 12:22:22 AM
Great to see that win tonight. After a shaky first quarter where we gifted them most of their scores, it was encouraging to see Antrim players driving at the Louth defence, taking men on, breaking tackles, making smart passes and working either a score or drawing a foul. In the second half when a Louth assault might have been expected, we pushed on from the throw in and grabbed control of the game.

Haven't seen as positive a performance in the Championship in a very long time, too long. And yes there were mistakes tonight for sure, around some decision making, and handling....but overall this was a brilliant performance.The desire and commitment was at times matched by skill and smart play, some of the passes into the forward line were 100% accurate and they usually led to scores. Some of our points were absolute top drawer as were the two goals.

Fair play to this squad and management. After a difficult league and heavy USFC defeat it might have been easy to drop the head and exit meekly. They have done the opposite.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 09, 2019, 12:46:02 AM
Delighted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2019, 09:27:00 AM
Agree wholeheartedly with you Brendan. The vast majority of the football people in the county have turned their back on these lads and support even from within some of their own clubs is lukewarm to say the least. Football is mostly about pride and yesterday this group stood tall when all around were castigating them. Yesterday they did it for themselves and that's what made this victory all the sweeter.

Louth were 1/4 in the book, and finished joint top of division three, narrowly missing promotion to division two on score difference. They were at home. They were six points up after twelve minutes.
That's the mountain our men faced down, in a glorious spell turned six down to nine up in a thirty minute spell of total dominance.

We talk of the players missing, the greats from Cargin or St Galls (and they were) but I've seen them too,  on good days and bad, and don't recall them producing anything quite as memorable as yesterday.

It's only one win, that's all, nothing else. But some highly valuable pride has been restored and for that alone it would be good if the football people in the county get behind them next day out wherever that may be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 09, 2019, 10:13:29 AM
But it only takes a win to relight the fire Bannside.  I think people are just disillusioned with being stuck in Division 4 and having no home.  So all the greater achievement for these lads who rolled up their sleeves all winter.  And they will see the support grow quickly, that's just the way it goes, we're not Mayo (yet).  They won plenty of admirers in the Tyrone game and backed it up yesterday.  Lenny too.  Can't wait for Monday morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AggiesTillDeath8 on June 09, 2019, 12:12:31 PM
Have to congratulate Lennie Harbinson on preparing the lads for that performance. We were really well set up, breaking with composure and accurate kick passes into Ryan Murray with players breaking off his shoulder at pace had Louth scrambling throughout the 70 mins. Defensively we were excellent, Decky Lynch cut out a number of passes and when they tried to play the ball in high to the big full forward Conor Grimes (who has hurt us in the past), Johnston defended heroically. Yesterday's performance showed a style of confident, composed football which I hadn't seen from Antrim in years and it has given the squad and management a victory that they deserve. Roll on the next round #LennyHarbinsonsSaffronArmy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2019, 01:08:56 PM
Our under 20s looked very good at times yesterday too, drawing with Cavan and finishing their league campaign unbeaten after three. Obvious progress in this sector, with half a dozen players or more marking themselves out for senior activity in the near future. Well done to Hugh and backroom team, this set up has been impressive and the panel has responded. Question.....how many McRory cup medalists are on this panel from either St Marys Mfelt (2017) or St Ronan's (2018).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 09, 2019, 07:00:28 PM
Super result all right and these lads are to be commended for sticking at it

Strange a full set of Div 1 fixtures played today...

Naomh Eanna seem to be in free fall but big 6 looking like being same as last year in Div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on June 10, 2019, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2019, 01:08:56 PM
Our under 20s looked very good at times yesterday too, drawing with Cavan and finishing their league campaign unbeaten after three. Obvious progress in this sector, with half a dozen players or more marking themselves out for senior activity in the near future. Well done to Hugh and backroom team, this set up has been impressive and the panel has responded. Question.....how many McRory cup medalists are on this panel from either St Marys Mfelt (2017) or St Ronan's (2018).

Totally agree with you, Antrim were by far the better team. And only for a crazy 5 minute spell straight after half time should've been out of sight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 09:00:21 AM
Kildare. Not sure how to feel about that one. Hopefully they're wounded by the dublin defeat!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 09:00:21 AM
Kildare. Not sure how to feel about that one. Hopefully they're wounded by the dublin defeat!

It could have been a lot worse
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 09:11:37 AM
Yeah. They're a lot weaker without Daniel Flynn but you would still have them as favourites. Still - nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 10, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Would expect them to be a big strong athletic team, but their shooting has always let them down, so a punchers chance.  Is there any possibility of getting them into an Antrim ground?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 10, 2019, 11:37:26 AM
Tough enough draw but some good signs from us in the last 2 games so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 10, 2019, 12:53:16 PM
Will this be another 'away' game then

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 10, 2019, 01:43:34 PM
Take them to Ballycastle, the most northern part of the county. They'll never cope with the wind and rain, even in June  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AggiesTillDeath8 on June 10, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
Louth came off a complete battering by the dubs and were in poor form when we beat them. Hopefully Kildare will be similarly depleted in morale- another great opportunity to take a bigger scalp as far as I'm concerned. The lads will be growing in confidence and, as Paddy McBride has tweeted, #WhiterockOrNowhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2019, 10:25:31 PM
Corrigan it seems for the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 12, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
Seems only sensible that we play our home tie in a home venue.  What is Corrigan's official capacity and are there any other grounds in the county that can hold greater numbers with sign off & approvals from police/health and safety?    All ticket affair then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2019, 09:11:45 AM
Quote from: AggiesTillDeath8 on June 10, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
Louth came off a complete battering by the dubs and were in poor form when we beat them. Hopefully Kildare will be similarly depleted in morale- another great opportunity to take a bigger scalp as far as I'm concerned. The lads will be growing in confidence and, as Paddy McBride has tweeted, #WhiterockOrNowhere

We got battered too so were coming from a similar place.

I wonder would it be all ticket. Not much time to sort out the logistics of that. Is the safety check a capacity check?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 12, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
Seems only sensible that we play our home tie in a home venue.  What is Corrigan's official capacity and are there any other grounds in the county that can hold greater numbers with sign off & approvals from police/health and safety?    All ticket affair then

think Brendan Crossen was saying on twitter that it would be 2000 capacity. it will be an all ticket game at that rate then.

I dont know what the safe capacity is for Corrigan at all tbh. Someone here might know better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 12, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 12, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
Seems only sensible that we play our home tie in a home venue.  What is Corrigan's official capacity and are there any other grounds in the county that can hold greater numbers with sign off & approvals from police/health and safety?    All ticket affair then

think Brendan Crossen was saying on twitter that it would be 2000 capacity. it will be an all ticket game at that rate then.

I dont know what the safe capacity is for Corrigan at all tbh. Someone here might know better

332 (including both teams)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2019, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 12, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 12, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
Seems only sensible that we play our home tie in a home venue.  What is Corrigan's official capacity and are there any other grounds in the county that can hold greater numbers with sign off & approvals from police/health and safety?    All ticket affair then

think Brendan Crossen was saying on twitter that it would be 2000 capacity. it will be an all ticket game at that rate then.

I dont know what the safe capacity is for Corrigan at all tbh. Someone here might know better

332 (including both teams)

:P lol

id say Kildare will have a large support for the game so 2000 wouldnt cover everyone who wants to go to the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2019, 11:45:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 12, 2019, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 12, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 12, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
Seems only sensible that we play our home tie in a home venue.  What is Corrigan's official capacity and are there any other grounds in the county that can hold greater numbers with sign off & approvals from police/health and safety?    All ticket affair then

think Brendan Crossen was saying on twitter that it would be 2000 capacity. it will be an all ticket game at that rate then.

I dont know what the safe capacity is for Corrigan at all tbh. Someone here might know better

332 (including both teams)

:P lol

id say Kildare will have a large support for the game so 2000 wouldnt cover everyone who wants to go to the game.

DR you volunteering Dunloy again?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2019, 12:17:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2019, 11:45:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 12, 2019, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 12, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 12, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
Seems only sensible that we play our home tie in a home venue.  What is Corrigan's official capacity and are there any other grounds in the county that can hold greater numbers with sign off & approvals from police/health and safety?    All ticket affair then

think Brendan Crossen was saying on twitter that it would be 2000 capacity. it will be an all ticket game at that rate then.

I dont know what the safe capacity is for Corrigan at all tbh. Someone here might know better

332 (including both teams)

:P lol

id say Kildare will have a large support for the game so 2000 wouldnt cover everyone who wants to go to the game.

DR you volunteering Dunloy again?  ;D

lol to be honest i wouldn't mind if we did. There's a mass of car parking with the parish hall and the chapel there along with the pitch. so long as i get in for free i dont mind! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on June 12, 2019, 12:29:41 PM
Corrigan seems to have passed approvals from police/health and safety etc according to Antrims twitter.

Seems to be all systems go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2019, 12:50:04 PM
I still think that we take it to Ballycastle or Dunloy.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on June 12, 2019, 01:10:31 PM
Following a meeting this morning between representatives of the Antrim County Committee, Ulster GAA and Belfast City Council (certifying authority) it has agreed that Corrigan Park can host the All-Ireland qualifier game v Kildare on 22 June.

It will be an all ticket game with a capacity on the day of 2,122. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on June 12, 2019, 01:23:37 PM
You guys should be on buying 10 tickets each and selling them on to Antrim folk. Don't let a Kildare man near the place and turn it into a fortress.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2019, 01:59:08 PM
Ticket prices are as follows:
€20/£18 Adults
€15/£14 Student/OAPs
€5/£5 Juveniles (no group passes)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2019, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: toby47 on June 12, 2019, 01:23:37 PM
You guys should be on buying 10 tickets each and selling them on to Antrim folk. Don't let a Kildare man near the place and turn it into a fortress.

At £20 you might not get that many  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 05:46:15 PM
I see fixtures have been refixed due to the Kildare match which is right but cargin and st galls matches? Just saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2019, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 05:46:15 PM
I see fixtures have been refixed due to the Kildare match which is right but cargin and st galls matches? Just saying

Are they playing teams with county players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 08:57:01 PM
Cargin v gorts
Galls v St theresa s
Don't think any of those clubs have county players but could b wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2019, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 08:57:01 PM
Cargin v gorts
Galls v St theresa s
Don't think any of those clubs have county players but could b wrong

You've obviously not been watching Antrim at all, bit of a bluffer it seems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
The bluffers are the Cargin and st galls men who have won 17 out of the last 18 senior championships and haven't one player between them prepAred to put a shift for their county
I'd make them play each other when the county match is on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2019, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
The bluffers are the Cargin and st galls men who have won 17 out of the last 18 senior championships and haven't one player between them prepAred to put a shift for their county
I'd make them play each other when the county match is on

Ah so you don't know who plays for Antrim from Belfast. And you being a Belfast GAA man it seems strange. Awk well, crack on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 14, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
MR2, you can't hide behind a bit of banter on this one. Cargin +  St Galls have not put their shoulders to the wheel. For Lenny I'm sure it is disappointing given his efforts with the  Milltown lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 14, 2019, 04:11:55 PM
He's got you here MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2019, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 14, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
MR2, you can't hide behind a bit of banter on this one. Cargin +  St Galls have not put their shoulders to the wheel. For Lenny I'm sure it is disappointing given his efforts with the  Milltown lads

Our best players are 33 and older ffs, catch yourself on! one player one of our best forwards was asked to be a bit part player, the term "youd be a great impact sub" was used..

Its disappointing that knowledgeable supporters on here are looking to dads army to bring Antrim forward. these lads and i cant talk about the Cargin players reasons, but they have given the county a hell of a lot more effort than the keyboard warriors on here who'd have little or no knowledge of the effort thats required to be an intercounty footballer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 14, 2019, 05:12:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
The bluffers are the Cargin and st galls men who have won 17 out of the last 18 senior championships and haven't one player between them prepAred to put a shift for their county
I'd make them play each other when the county match is on

Is that not an oxymoron, bluffers winning all those championships.
From my knowledge Kevin O Boyle is injured and would have been available. As far as I know some of those bluffers from Carlin were prepared to make themselves available but not training fill tilt from December 4/5 nights a weeks at a cost to there businesses. They were prepared to commit on a lesser demanding schedule but Lenny didn't agree to it. That is his prerogative. Unless you want the Gaa to go semi professional so players can put their careers on the back burner?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 14, 2019, 05:52:54 PM
Oh MR2, the arrogance sounds like a DUP conference. Clubs up & down the country would love to have 'County Standard Impact Subs' unless they were Corporal Pike from Dads Army.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2019, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 14, 2019, 05:52:54 PM
Oh MR2, the arrogance sounds like a DUP conference. Clubs up & down the country would love to have 'County Standard Impact Subs' unless they were Corporal Pike from Dads Army.

Calling you up on bullshit isn't arrogance, but carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 14, 2019, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 14, 2019, 05:12:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 13, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
The bluffers are the Cargin and st galls men who have won 17 out of the last 18 senior championships and haven't one player between them prepAred to put a shift for their county
I'd make them play each other when the county match is on

Is that not an oxymoron, bluffers winning all those championships.
From my knowledge Kevin O Boyle is injured and would have been available. As far as I know some of those bluffers from Carlin were prepared to make themselves available but not training fill tilt from December 4/5 nights a weeks at a cost to there businesses. They were prepared to commit on a lesser demanding schedule but Lenny didn't agree to it. That is his prerogative. Unless you want the Gaa to go semi professional so players can put their careers on the back burner?
im sure Cargin players aren't the only players who have businesses and jobs surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2019, 10:44:19 AM
f**k me you would swear the way people were posting here that certain clubs were obliged to have players on the county panel!

whats sort of thinking is that? that players should commit to something they dont want to just because they play for Cargin or St Galls?

aye dead on lads.

I dont know anything about any of the lads who havent committed but the lads from St Galls and Cargin dont owe anyone anything at County level with the amount of games they have played over the last 10-15 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 15, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
And we can add Dunloy to the list of clubs not providing players to the county footballers. Imagine how strong we could be !
My gripe with st galls and Cargin is that there seems to be a team decision to sod the county and concentrate on club football and if everyone took that stance we would have no county team. Not sure what's driving it in st galls but Derry managers in Cargin cant be good for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 15, 2019, 12:16:11 PM
It's an individual decision decision for any lad to commit to County if he's asked, it's not a club issue.  Individually they all have their own lives to lead and if they opt in or out is entirely their own business in an amateur sport where the demands are essentially professional.  We'd all love to see all our best players on the one panel, which probably rarely happens in any county, but if we get a few more wins under our belt then the whole county set up will become more attractive - it's chicken and egg. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 15, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
And we can add Dunloy to the list of clubs not providing players to the county footballers. Imagine how strong we could be !
My gripe with st galls and Cargin is that there seems to be a team decision to sod the county and concentrate on club football and if everyone took that stance we would have no county team. Not sure what's driving it in st galls but Derry managers in Cargin cant be good for Antrim

Sure someone said above Kevin o'boyle would be there only he is injured... doesn't sound like a team decision??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 15, 2019, 02:45:10 PM
Can't imagine the best 2 clubs in Dublin/Tyrone /Kerry/Mayo even Kildare will not be represented on their county panels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2019, 03:18:49 PM
Kildare's best player, by a long way, does not play. Happening everywhere outside the main contenders.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 15, 2019, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 15, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
And we can add Dunloy to the list of clubs not providing players to the county footballers. Imagine how strong we could be !
My gripe with st galls and Cargin is that there seems to be a team decision to sod the county and concentrate on club football and if everyone took that stance we would have no county team. Not sure what's driving it in st galls but Derry managers in Cargin cant be good for Antrim

Sit down pal and relax, you've more to worry about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 15, 2019, 07:47:18 PM
Kildares best player not lining out is not the same as  2 top clubs with no representation. 2 top teams with no players rigging out is hard to comprehend. That was the point of the posts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2019, 08:19:14 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 15, 2019, 07:47:18 PM
Kildares best player not lining out is not the same as  2 top clubs with no representation. 2 top teams with no players rigging out is hard to comprehend. That was the point of the posts

It's not as black and white as two clubs not togging out. Look at the age demographic of the players from those two clubs and look at the lifespan of a county footballer these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2019, 08:19:14 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 15, 2019, 07:47:18 PM
Kildares best player not lining out is not the same as  2 top clubs with no representation. 2 top teams with no players rigging out is hard to comprehend. That was the point of the posts

It's not as black and white as two clubs not togging out. Look at the age demographic of the players from those two clubs and look at the lifespan of a county footballer these days.

This guy is a complete WUM, obviously has no idea about what age or history these players, from both clubs have given to the county. They, by their own admission, are mainly at county level, past their best, considering the level they know you have to be at, at county level and the commitment required to be so.

I'd struggle to believe this poster would know the difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2019, 09:35:06 PM
One of your guys played most of the league too. I think his name is McCabe? He's not in the panel now but I see him in u20 team so it isn't like you had none all year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2019, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2019, 09:35:06 PM
One of your guys played most of the league too. I think his name is McCabe? He's not in the panel now but I see him in u20 team so it isn't like you had none all year.

Yes, young Mccabe played, in fact I refd a challenge game and he played well. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 01:30:04 AM
Tommy G & MR2, get a room lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
The only club in Wexford had one starter against Kilkenny, but sure they'd have needed all of them to get over the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2019, 07:34:31 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 01:30:04 AM
Tommy G & MR2, get a room lads

;D

Good debate. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 02:39:47 PM
Another nonsense post from MR2.
Only 1 club in Wexford???????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2019, 07:41:07 PM
What price r we against Kildare?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2019, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 02:39:47 PM
Another nonsense post from MR2.
Only 1 club in Wexford???????

Yes, they've won countless titles these last few years and have provided one starter! You truly are a dunce
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 08:50:39 PM
MR2 utter tripe and nonsense again. No facts, info  etc. Throw in the towel please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2019, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 08:50:39 PM
MR2 utter tripe and nonsense again. No facts, info  etc. Throw in the towel please

Bar St Martins win in 2017 OTB have been been a bit like StGalls during their run. OTB have one player on the team. Check out the team sheet from their last game. By far one of the best and consistent club teams in Ireland recently.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 09:39:12 PM
Mairtin Naofa and the Ballagh have no football pedigree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2019, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 09:39:12 PM
Mairtin Naofa and the Ballagh have no football pedigree

I knew I should've got involved in this discussion with a twit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 09:49:24 PM
Crack on MR2, you a great advocate for the county & St Galls tripe talk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2019, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2019, 09:49:24 PM
Crack on MR2, you're  a great advocate for the county & St Galls tripe talk

I'm interested in you're view. Was chatting to some lads from a team today about the same thing, and it's strange that people have these views, I said when you get the chance, ask these players why. Seems people would rather make stuff up, far better craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 17, 2019, 09:01:17 AM
was up in lisburn with our seniors yday. we ended up winning by 1 point in a well contested game.

we were missing over 20 players from our squad due to the U21 hurling on the night (which has now been cancelled!) and other games so to get a result there down that much was pretty pleasing.

what i was impressed with was how Lisburn played. they def do not deserve to be bottom without a point to their name. they played really good football for long periods and kicked 4 unreal points during the game. It just shows how competitive that Division 2 is this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2019, 09:03:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 17, 2019, 09:01:17 AM
was up in lisburn with our seniors yday. we ended up winning by 1 point in a well contested game.

we were missing over 20 players from our squad due to the U21 hurling on the night (which has now been cancelled!) and other games so to get a result there down that much was pretty pleasing.

what i was impressed with was how Lisburn played. they def do not deserve to be bottom without a point to their name. they played really good football for long periods and kicked 4 unreal points during the game. It just shows how competitive that Division 2 is this year.

It's a seriously good competitive league, have done a few games lately and it's generally nip and tuck the whole way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 17, 2019, 09:54:39 AM
it really is. ive been impressed with the teams in it and how tight the league is overall. the teams are very evenly matched and with Rossa getting beat yday its made the promotion race very interesting now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2019, 10:05:03 AM
Does it split at half way and go to a top and bottom 6? (or whatever the number is)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2019, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2019, 10:05:03 AM
Does it split at half way and go to a top and bottom 6? (or whatever the number is)

Yes - splits after last round of games next weekend

I think the remaining 5 games will be played before cship this year as opposed to last year when there was still a couple to be played in November, including the important St Brigids randalstown game which had a big bearing on promotion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2019, 10:34:34 AM
That sounds very efficient for antrim standards lol. Yeah those leagues look to be working out quite well this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 17, 2019, 10:49:36 AM
In Division One, very little separates the top 6 teams who all look capable of beating each other. Should be very interesting after the split! The bottom half will be very close too. St Bridgets and Aghagallon should be comfortable after the split but it is looking ominous for St Teresas and Clooney. I wouldn't be surprised if St Endas end up in danger of relegation with some of their better players bound for America for the summer.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 17, 2019, 10:51:43 AM
aye we arent allow to refix games so they all have to be played before the final games next week at the split.

it does make sense to get the games all played in a time frame as no one needs games being played after championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2019, 08:53:39 AM
Good to see our allocation of tickets for Saturdays big game against Kildare has sold out. Our players and management have put in a hard shift throughout the year and deserve nothing less than some proper support for 70 minutes on Saturday.

On our very best form we have a good chance of remaining in the competition come Monday mornings draw. We are under no pressure whatsoever, outside the panel very few expect anything but a drubbing, as is reflected in the bookies odds. But we are on a mini high after the Louth performance and Kildare are exactly the opposite after shipping a hefty defeat to the Dubs.....plus we have home advantage. All in all I fully expect us to be competitive throughout and won't be surprised in the least if we cause the biggest upset for quite a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ahoy hoy on June 20, 2019, 04:27:29 PM
Anyone seen this lad Connor Mcstay from Aghagallon play? Apparently he got called up to the squad for Kildare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 20, 2019, 04:57:04 PM
No and congratulations to him but seems very late in the day. Did someone get injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 20, 2019, 05:44:06 PM
Will you be able to get a ticket/pay in on the day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 21, 2019, 09:10:53 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on June 20, 2019, 05:44:06 PM
Will you be able to get a ticket/pay in on the day?

No.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 21, 2019, 01:03:58 PM
what do we think for tomorrow?
I think Antrim will be able to push them hard but my fear is they will take over the game in the last 20 minutes as our bench will be very light and inexperienced and they will have more depth but you never know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on June 22, 2019, 02:34:56 PM
Anyone got a spare ticket?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 22, 2019, 06:41:58 PM
MR2 you are normally a good man for a positive outlook - what u think after 2day? For me the gulf is so obvious we need a 2nd tier championship , done properly,  more than ever.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2019, 06:50:41 PM
Think its Bannside yer lookin for tbh..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 22, 2019, 07:36:50 PM
No shame losing to Kildare. Can't really blame the fellas on the panel, just a massive gulf in class at present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2019, 08:46:23 PM
From the start there was only one team, Kildare are like a lot of division one teams physically bigger in all departments, core strength and fitness levels are 3 divisions above Antrim, that doesn't happen overnight and would have made no difference had we played the great Andy McCallin when he was in his pump!

If you think a dads army team would have made a difference then you are just confirming that you are not wise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 23, 2019, 09:09:40 AM
This leaves us in an awkward quandry.  Our fittest, strongest and most intelligent footballers, capable of putting it up to kildare, are training at home with their clubs.  And yet, we have people on here believeing they wouldnt make a difference or shouldnt be approached. Beggars cant be choosers. The gulf is widening at rate faster than ever before and the 'dads army' and others solution, is just a respite to address the slide.  Alarmingly our current squad has less than 5 players capable of playing in higher divisions.    If we are accepting the current squad is our best then it requires serious attention in terms of strength and physicality - we look like men against boys and i wonder what misinformation has been passed to these fellas as past couple of years.   Tactically we are naive and game management absent.  Nows the time to act before we slide into london territory
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2019, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2019, 09:30:55 AM
"Capable of putting it up to Kildare".

My hole. Where are you pulling that from?
All of these players you have in mind have played for Antrim over the last 5 years and we still never put it up to anyone.

Exactly. Time after time you read the same shite here. I don't know what capable in division one even means. So if you play for a team who are in division two are you not capable of playing in division one?

Our hurlers and footballers have been very poor on the strength and conditioning front for years. It takes years too but we can't get player commitment year on year to get the years of development required so it is a difficult problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 23, 2019, 10:50:13 AM
Deluded comments and yet fairly typical.  'Putting it up' means at least challenge.   We've employed bargain bucket managers for last few years and we've got what we've deserved.  Even with all our best players playing we cant overcome the tactics of the incompetent on the line and the lack of training discipline from so called stars.   

No one is suggesting antrim are a div 1 or even a div 2 team but we certainly should not be in the position we are now taking hidings.   Kildare wont be winning an all ireland anytime soon.

We've all the excuses we'll ever need for mediocrity amd we use every one of them  -  just go through the list: manager, squad, county ground, training facilities, coaches, underage structures, investment, the fans ourselves - all rubbish......we all need to have a look at ourselves.

Are we resigning ourselves to mediocrity?  If so then change nothing and we'll all be more content
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2019, 01:14:22 PM
One manager/coach/fitness coach would not have got our players to a level that could compete with a division one team. And this same coach would not have been able to get these players you talked about to commit to the regime required to reach that level. Mainly because they need to be training hard for at least 3 seasons to be conditioned to at least match teams physically before the football ability kicks in.

Now it's achievable as you only have to look at Loughery yesterday for Cork, was one of the best players on the pitch, but he's playing possibly higher grade of club football and a higher standard of county, a county that has more money to spend on things that will improve our basic standards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 23, 2019, 04:20:27 PM
James Loughrey is one of the few Antrim players that had the fitness, conditioning & athleticism needed even when he was with Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 23, 2019, 06:04:02 PM
Perhaps Loughery is one of the few antrim footballers to do what is necessary is get the physique of a modern intercounty player.   All these spoofers and apologists on here denying whats right in front of them - there is NO excuse why antrim's footballers do not have the physique of a div 1 footballer. None whatsoever. Anyone saying different is someone used to taking the easy road through life.  Its feckin hard and takes sacrifices - thats why antrim arent at it.   Antrim dont appear (happy to be proved wrong) to have the talent / ability of a div 1 team but they should at least have the physicality.  Fecks sake there is enough information available to do it.   

Antrim's problem appears to be attitude, exacerbated by pisspoor  managers and 'quick fix' supporters and county admins. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2019, 06:28:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 23, 2019, 06:04:02 PM
Perhaps Loughery is one of the few antrim footballers to do what is necessary is get the physique of a modern intercounty player.   All these spoofers and apologists on here denying whats right in front of them - there is NO excuse why antrim's footballers do not have the physique of a div 1 footballer. None whatsoever. Anyone saying different is someone used to taking the easy road through life.  Its feckin hard and takes sacrifices - thats why antrim arent at it.   Antrim dont appear (happy to be proved wrong) to have the talent / ability of a div 1 team but they should at least have the physicality.  Fecks sake there is enough information available to do it.   

Antrim's problem appears to be attitude, exacerbated by pisspoor  managers and 'quick fix' supporters and county admins.

So you agree it's a players responsibility to achieve this level of fitness that Loughrey has got to, was personal thing by him I assume, as there was no 'special' coach's doing that when he was at Antrim. It was his own, and by the way, just right to do so.

You do some spoofing, we are not at the level, nor is it down to people on the internet discussing it. If players have excuses not to play, you'll just have to accept them. Changing the management may bring a new set up and players but I doubt they'd have the impact against a division one team unless they manage to play, at a minimum, div 2 football.

Antrim seniors need a successful juvenile conveyor belt of talent feeding through to a senior set up, were they have competed with the teams in Ulster and started their conditioning from an earlier age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 23, 2019, 07:23:27 PM
Of course its a players responsibilty allied to the manager and county board doing all they can to facilitate.    If u remember, i know the reason why players stay away - you never appeared to accept these MR2.   I never said antrim could compete at div 1, i said they should have no excuses for not having the physicality.  And lastly, antrim should not be gettings hidings from anyone, save dublin.  Honestly, its like debating with jamie bryson on the stephen nolan show here.  Try debating what you actually read and not what you think you read.  Actually agree with you on your last paragraph.

Bottom line, antrims attitudes need to change. Players and other stakeholders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 23, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Fair play to Loughery. He's trained that hard to play in Div 3 NFL with his adopted county next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 23, 2019, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2019, 07:44:50 PM
You're right. I can't believe it has taken 40 years for someone to finally come up with the winning formula. "Antrim's attitudes need to change."

Pin it to the wall.

Sometimes the obvious things are right in front of you  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 23, 2019, 10:15:58 PM
So we send Lenny & management packing and we get on the phone to Malachy O'Rourke and bring a few back from Cargin and St Galls or we sit tight with current set up and hope they build on this season and bring back the pride?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2019, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 23, 2019, 10:15:58 PM
So we send Lenny & management packing and we get on the phone to Malachy O'Rourke and bring a few back from Cargin and St Galls or we sit tight with current set up and hope they build on this season and bring back the pride?

Look we could spend thousands on a management team with all the extras but still perform the same way.

Well done to all involved on that panel your commitment can't be faulted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 24, 2019, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 23, 2019, 06:04:02 PM
Perhaps Loughery is one of the few antrim footballers to do what is necessary is get the physique of a modern intercounty player.   All these spoofers and apologists on here denying whats right in front of them - there is NO excuse why antrim's footballers do not have the physique of a div 1 footballer. None whatsoever. Anyone saying different is someone used to taking the easy road through life.  Its feckin hard and takes sacrifices - thats why antrim arent at it.   Antrim dont appear (happy to be proved wrong) to have the talent / ability of a div 1 team but they should at least have the physicality.  Fecks sake there is enough information available to do it.   

Antrim's problem appears to be attitude, exacerbated by pisspoor  managers and 'quick fix' supporters and county admins.

Loughrey was a freak athlete by our standards prior to he even doing the weights and bulking up. His commitment was 2nd to none prior to be going to Cork to get married. He was our best player bar none...breaking the gain line, punching holes in the opposition backline and laying off to the scorers. Massive loss

We could do with a top manager to get the buy in from all players. Clare have got to Div 2. They stayed there for a year and have improved. If they can we can..we have to aim high and stop being negative. We got there 10 yrs ago, beat Meath but went down.
In our biggest games in the qualifiers around then we had our captain etc not play due to pre booked holidays. That didnt help us kicking on
We need serious buy in if we are to have any chance. We can do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on June 29, 2019, 07:20:01 AM
Was at Aghagallon v L Dhearg last night, I could go off on a rant and say this and that and feed the trolls and upset MR2 but all I will say is that PH who was allegedly suspended by his own committee on advice of CCC due to numerous complaints in the past, should not have been allowed back period!

His connections to the LD club via family and chair of refs committee from the club he should never have been appointed (spectators opinions not mine) throughout the game. That's the local clubs argument no doubt.

I really do hope this game is on video, players and managers reacted and that's their problem but if they look at the video and the refs performance in relation to decision making then I would say they would have to hold their hands up!  Refs have a duty of care like everyone and last night was an example to all in relation to complete ignorance of this and created such a volatile situation which could have turned really serious but for a few level headed people on both sides.

Pity big AMcC (eyes and ears top accessor) wasn't at this oh that's right he doesn't go to LD games he just reports on everyone else .   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 29, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on June 29, 2019, 07:20:01 AM
Was at Aghagallon v L Dhearg last night, I could go off on a rant and say this and that and feed the trolls and upset MR2 but all I will say is that PH who was allegedly suspended by his own committee on advice of CCC due to numerous complaints in the past, should not have been allowed back period!

His connections to the LD club via family and chair of refs committee from the club he should never have been appointed (spectators opinions not mine) throughout the game. That's the local clubs argument no doubt.

I really do hope this game is on video, players and managers reacted and that's their problem but if they look at the video and the refs performance in relation to decision making then I would say they would have to hold their hands up!  Refs have a duty of care like everyone and last night was an example to all in relation to complete ignorance of this and created such a volatile situation which could have turned really serious but for a few level headed people on both sides.

Pity big AMcC (eyes and ears top accessor) wasn't at this oh that's right he doesn't go to LD games he just reports on everyone else .

What went down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 29, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
 ;D ;D not bad Hardstation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 29, 2019, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 29, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on June 29, 2019, 07:20:01 AM
Was at Aghagallon v L Dhearg last night, I could go off on a rant and say this and that and feed the trolls and upset MR2 but all I will say is that PH who was allegedly suspended by his own committee on advice of CCC due to numerous complaints in the past, should not have been allowed back period!

His connections to the LD club via family and chair of refs committee from the club he should never have been appointed (spectators opinions not mine) throughout the game. That's the local clubs argument no doubt.

I really do hope this game is on video, players and managers reacted and that's their problem but if they look at the video and the refs performance in relation to decision making then I would say they would have to hold their hands up!  Refs have a duty of care like everyone and last night was an example to all in relation to complete ignorance of this and created such a volatile situation which could have turned really serious but for a few level headed people on both sides.

Pity big AMcC (eyes and ears top accessor) wasn't at this oh that's right he doesn't go to LD games he just reports on everyone else .

What went down?

Aghagallon were rabbed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
A bit of debate over the final score in the Ballymena M'Glass game to. Ballymena and reporters had Ballymena winning the game by a point and ref had it a draw.

PH is a shocking ref, shouldn't be allowed to put a whistle to his mouth unless it's calling his dog back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2019, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 29, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on June 29, 2019, 07:20:01 AM
Was at Aghagallon v L Dhearg last night, I could go off on a rant and say this and that and feed the trolls and upset MR2 but all I will say is that PH who was allegedly suspended by his own committee on advice of CCC due to numerous complaints in the past, should not have been allowed back period!

His connections to the LD club via family and chair of refs committee from the club he should never have been appointed (spectators opinions not mine) throughout the game. That's the local clubs argument no doubt.

I really do hope this game is on video, players and managers reacted and that's their problem but if they look at the video and the refs performance in relation to decision making then I would say they would have to hold their hands up!  Refs have a duty of care like everyone and last night was an example to all in relation to complete ignorance of this and created such a volatile situation which could have turned really serious but for a few level headed people on both sides.

Pity big AMcC (eyes and ears top accessor) wasn't at this oh that's right he doesn't go to LD games he just reports on everyone else .

What went down?
From what I hear an Aghagallon sub entered the pitch and a melee started after a heavy LD challenge and the Aghagallon crowd jostled the ref when he left the pitch at the end and there were fears for his safety - bad craic. Heard ref was poor too but obviously no excuse for being jostled by a crowd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 29, 2019, 02:45:34 PM
Ref  is n't a good advertisement for the role on the field.
Give respect  - get respect  isn't part of his vocabulary .
He gives zero respect ,  is vulgar and ignorant to everyone on the pitch. Thinks his comebacks are funny !  Isnt fully aware of some of the rules.  I'm surprised it has taken this long to come to the fore. He isnt fit to wear the shirt!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on June 29, 2019, 08:40:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2019, 10:13:12 AM
Wow, I'm just thankful you didn't go off on a rant.

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 30, 2019, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
A bit of debate over the final score in the Ballymena M'Glass game to. Ballymena and reporters had Ballymena winning the game by a point and ref had it a draw.

PH is a shocking ref, shouldn't be allowed to put a whistle to his mouth unless it's calling his dog back.

Heard it was a bit of a hash at the end of it.

Happened us in Lisburn the other week. We were winning at a stage by a point but the ref had it 2 points to the other team. The Lisburn bench even laughed when he shouted out the score at that point. Thank fully we ended up winning by a point but we should of won by 2 points.

Ref admitted at the end he realised that he had it wrong when he heard their bench laughing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 30, 2019, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 30, 2019, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
A bit of debate over the final score in the Ballymena M'Glass game to. Ballymena and reporters had Ballymena winning the game by a point and ref had it a draw.

PH is a shocking ref, shouldn't be allowed to put a whistle to his mouth unless it's calling his dog back.

Heard it was a bit of a hash at the end of it.

Happened us in Lisburn the other week. We were winning at a stage by a point but the ref had it 2 points to the other team. The Lisburn bench even laughed when he shouted out the score at that point. Thank fully we ended up winning by a point but we should of won by 2 points.

Ref admitted at the end he realised that he had it wrong when he heard their bench laughing.

Was there not a saga last year involving Glenravel and Antrim Town? The afore mentioned Mr Hughes was the man in charge that day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 01, 2019, 08:20:11 AM
interesting rematch on wednesday night with Moneyglass playing Ballymena again after the drawn/wasnt drawn game on friday night.

If moneyglass can get a result you would have to fancy them to take the second spot in D2.

we have a crappy run now of 4 away games and 1 at home but thats the joys of having already played at home to the other teams earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on July 02, 2019, 06:24:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2019, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 30, 2019, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
A bit of debate over the final score in the Ballymena M'Glass game to. Ballymena and reporters had Ballymena winning the game by a point and ref had it a draw.

PH is a shocking ref, shouldn't be allowed to put a whistle to his mouth unless it's calling his dog back.

Heard it was a bit of a hash at the end of it.

Happened us in Lisburn the other week. We were winning at a stage by a point but the ref had it 2 points to the other team. The Lisburn bench even laughed when he shouted out the score at that point. Thank fully we ended up winning by a point but we should of won by 2 points.

Ref admitted at the end he realised that he had it wrong when he heard their bench laughing.

Was there not a saga last year involving Glenravel and Antrim Town? The afore mentioned Mr Hughes was the man in charge that day.


He was and thus the reason he was put out to grass after a number of similar incidents that year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on July 02, 2019, 08:40:43 AM
None the less folks, he does not deserve a character assassination on here. Players often do worse and there's little spoke of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 02, 2019, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 02, 2019, 08:40:43 AM
None the less folks, he does not deserve a character assassination on here. Players often do worse and there's little spoke of it.

I always told never to swear at a woman or insult people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 02, 2019, 03:42:20 PM
Quote from: Peter john on July 02, 2019, 12:41:56 PM
Likewise Dr, if all saints get the win they'll fancy there chances, big game for yourselves in Randalstown, anyone off the top 5 will fancy a crack at div 1, especially Whitehill if they get momentum with 4h games and new manager

yeah thats true. that top half of the table is very evenly matched this year. Not much between the sides.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2019, 07:53:11 PM
St Johns bad or LD good last night? Bit of surprise after LD drew with Aghagallon just a few days ago....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 04, 2019, 08:00:08 PM
St. John's, though not 100% sure on this, looked to be missing a few. Fitzpatrick who is playing superb a big miss too. Championship would be different I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2019, 08:09:08 PM
Yeah wouldn't read too much into results in July
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 05, 2019, 10:20:47 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2019, 08:09:08 PM
Yeah wouldn't read too much into results in July

id agree there, theres a lot of teams who arent in the position to win leagues/promotions and are trying out players etc at this stage of the year along with holidays. you wouldnt read into any of the results at the moment for some teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 10, 2019, 01:47:11 PM
although July Cargin getting well beat by LD was a bit of surprise - Creggan seem to be flying while St Enda's and St Teresa's look relegation favs in Div 1 from a look at recent results...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2019, 01:53:16 PM
Surprised at st endas demise. Not sure if they have those two Healys available who seem like their better players.

Lamhs putting up some big scores.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 10, 2019, 09:23:25 PM
Ahoghill,s annual Houdini act looking good again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 11, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
what happened St Endas this season in D1? i was surprised as i thought they were more than good enough to go up and make a mark this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 11, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
Not a bad team but they are missing a few of their main players (Eastwood, the Healey Brothers etc) and its possible their All Ireland run is catching up with them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 11, 2019, 09:15:15 AM
seems to be a fair split in the middle of the league with the teams at the top and bottom. That being said its a very competitive league, much like D2 and the top of D3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
The splits seem like a good job. Give impetus early in the season and then for the top or bottom later. Hard to preserve interest for everyone all along but seems to keep it as interesting as it possibly can.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 11, 2019, 04:04:06 PM
Looks like Cargin put out their reserve team V LD or have the Lamhs peaked too soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 11, 2019, 10:49:20 PM
Does anyone know how our County delegates are likely to vote on the 2nd tier proposals?  Has it been well considered?  I hope against.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 12, 2019, 12:48:25 PM
Is there vote on it due soon?
Also what about that change to u17 u19 etc at club level? Is that over the line?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 15, 2019, 10:19:54 PM
Belfast GAA man, good questions but no answers yet. I've been asking lads in work from across the county and no one knows. Have asked club committee as well and same applies. Anyone on here know.
Did hear that Casement likely to be delayed by another year at least - anyone else know anything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 17, 2019, 10:37:24 PM
I think the GAA hierarchy is County focused and the clubs issues are well down the pecking order and that's why this underage issue has rumbled on for years now without an effort to sort it out.

One county has u17/u19 another has u16/u18 what a shambles but sure as long as Croke is full and Sky are happy  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 03, 2019, 07:21:52 AM
If I where Galls I'd get the game on video on Sunday, the travelling clown is back out! Far too many conflicts of interest with LD and the Chair of the Committee knows it (safe pair of hands by the look of it)! And big A Mc C cant go to this one!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2019, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on August 03, 2019, 07:21:52 AM
If I where Galls I'd get the game on video on Sunday, the travelling clown is back out! Far too many conflicts of interest with LD and the Chair of the Committee knows it (safe pair of hands by the look of it)! And big A Mc C cant go to this one!!!

Settle petal. You'll do yourself an injury
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2019, 09:25:12 PM
I see St Teresa's are finally relegated from Division 1 . I suppose the lack of juvenile teams had to kick in at some stage. Looks like St Endas are getting it together to stave off relegation and at the top it looks like 5 very even teams....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2019, 08:28:57 AM
Two championship goals for loughrey. Not bad for a corner back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 05, 2019, 10:02:29 AM
Rossa beat at Ballymena at the weekend in D2. Bit of a turn up there. Rossa have Moneyglass at home in the next game in what could be a winner takes all game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2019, 11:27:54 AM
Relegation in 1 interesting also. I think st teresas are down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 06, 2019, 07:14:28 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2019/08/06/news/i-would-consider-a-return-to-antrim-cargin-ace-tomas-mccann-1678331/

Bring him home!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 06, 2019, 09:27:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 06, 2019, 07:14:28 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2019/08/06/news/i-would-consider-a-return-to-antrim-cargin-ace-tomas-mccann-1678331/

Bring him home!

Some contributors on the site would have you believe he is part of 'Dads Army' and we don't need him  ???

We should be doing all we can to accommodate our top talent - we have don't have the luxury of other counties to pick and choose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 06, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2019, 11:27:54 AM
Relegation in 1 interesting also. I think st teresas are down?
Yes St Teresas definitely down
Looks like St Pauls are nearly over the line for promotion in Div 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 14, 2019, 10:35:56 PM
Absolute disgrace that the county couldn't be bothered heading to the country to a Div1 trophy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 14, 2019, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 14, 2019, 10:35:56 PM
Absolute disgrace that the county couldn't be bothered heading to the country to a Div1 trophy.


Very strange.....and very disrespecting.   I see rossa.got presented the div 2 trophy.  Are the county bord cutting back on fuel.costs or is it because of the club that won grates with them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 14, 2019, 11:26:36 PM
Are u saying the county didn't turn up for Cargin b cos Cargin don't turn up for the county..... :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 14, 2019, 11:29:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 14, 2019, 11:26:36 PM
Are u saying the county didn't turn up for Cargin b cos Cargin don't turn up for the county..... :o

Im.just wondering why they didnt show up for their 2nd biggest football competition trophy award.   Any reason other than 'it was stolen on the way to the match' is unacceptable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 14, 2019, 11:31:24 PM
That's the Div 1 league as good as over with Cargin winners after the most competitive league in memory. Top four positions sorted for next years cship seeding too...the scene is set now for a memorable championship. Can South West consolidate its position as the new power base, or can Galls Johnnies or LD....or indeed improving Rossa put a spanner in those works? Should be an interesting couple of months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 15, 2019, 07:11:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 14, 2019, 11:26:36 PM
Are u saying the county didn't turn up for Cargin b cos Cargin don't turn up for the county..... :o

What would of happened if Creggan had won?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2019, 08:22:18 AM
I see mick Mccann kicking off on Twitter and a few boys who have played county chiming in too. Doesn't look good for the county. Very strange how this happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 15, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
This is a sickener for the players and I saw it happen to my own club a few years ago as well at underage.  We had to hand them a trophy off a shelf from our club room to save face.  Is it silence so far from the County?  An explanation or apology is necessary and pretty quickly- maybe there was a genuine reason so let's see what they say.  The old ways need to change, otherwise we'll be bottom of the pile for plenty more years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 15, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
They are quick enough to fine clubs for not returning trophies  every March .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 15, 2019, 11:40:46 AM
All down the years, it was always "oh, sure, leagues don't matter".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
This is a sickener for the players and I saw it happen to my own club a few years ago as well at underage.  We had to hand them a trophy off a shelf from our club room to save face.  Is it silence so far from the County?  An explanation or apology is necessary and pretty quickly- maybe there was a genuine reason so let's see what they say.  The old ways need to change, otherwise we'll be bottom of the pile for plenty more years to come.

no they have replied that it was organised to be presented at the official opening of Cargin's clubrooms which was to be tomorrow but it was postponed so the presentation has been postponed until that happens.

(Edit) although creggan could have won the league last night too I believe?? That would have been a mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 15, 2019, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
This is a sickener for the players and I saw it happen to my own club a few years ago as well at underage.  We had to hand them a trophy off a shelf from our club room to save face.  Is it silence so far from the County?  An explanation or apology is necessary and pretty quickly- maybe there was a genuine reason so let's see what they say.  The old ways need to change, otherwise we'll be bottom of the pile for plenty more years to come.

no they have replied that it was organised to be presented at the official opening of Cargin's clubrooms which was to be tomorrow but it was postponed so the presentation has been postponed until that happens.

(Edit) although creggan could have won the league last night too I believe?? That would have been a mess.
The person managing the Cargin Twitter account didn't seem to know that.  Makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 15, 2019, 12:17:02 PM
Creggan must be delighted with the crystal ball reading Antrim did, predicting they wouldnt win the league.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2019, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
This is a sickener for the players and I saw it happen to my own club a few years ago as well at underage.  We had to hand them a trophy off a shelf from our club room to save face.  Is it silence so far from the County?  An explanation or apology is necessary and pretty quickly- maybe there was a genuine reason so let's see what they say.  The old ways need to change, otherwise we'll be bottom of the pile for plenty more years to come.

no they have replied that it was organised to be presented at the official opening of Cargin's clubrooms which was to be tomorrow but it was postponed so the presentation has been postponed until that happens.

(Edit) although creggan could have won the league last night too I believe?? That would have been a mess.
The person managing the Cargin Twitter account didn't seem to know that.  Makes you wonder.

yeah all very odd and would only happen in antrim lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 15, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on August 15, 2019, 12:17:02 PM
Creggan must be delighted with the crystal ball reading Antrim did, predicting they wouldnt win the league.

Would have been very long odds for Creggan to win by double figures last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 16, 2019, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 15, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on August 15, 2019, 12:17:02 PM
Creggan must be delighted with the crystal ball reading Antrim did, predicting they wouldnt win the league.

Would have been very long odds for Creggan to win by double figures last night

Worse than the odds that one of the two teams on the pitch would be the winner of the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
County chairman has now spoke out about it which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 16, 2019, 08:26:09 AM
i see they got it all sorted yesterday which was good to see.

Now i wonder if anyone would mind us causing a fuss about the fact no one turned up to present us the D1 hurling league trophy last week there   ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 16, 2019, 08:31:27 AM
Thats the 4th biggest trophy in antrim.....priorities priorities   :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 16, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 16, 2019, 08:31:27 AM
Thats the 4th biggest trophy in antrim.....priorities priorities   :P

lol ill not lose any sleep over not seeing a league trophy

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 16, 2019, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 16, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 16, 2019, 08:31:27 AM
Thats the 4th biggest trophy in antrim.....priorities priorities   :P

lol ill not lose any sleep over not seeing a league trophy

Well you should.. standards n all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 16, 2019, 11:59:20 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 16, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 16, 2019, 08:31:27 AM
Thats the 4th biggest trophy in antrim.....priorities priorities   :P

lol ill not lose any sleep over not seeing a league trophy

Don't you just love hurling! These footballing people need a bit more of that sort of attitude.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 16, 2019, 12:38:20 PM
I'm sure if Antrim won Division 1 of the NHL or NFL they would be v happy not to have a presentation from the Hogan stand for their endeavours. Whats the saying, show respect get respect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
County chairman has now spoke out about it which is a good thing.
The chairman spoke well on the matter and was manly about it.
Cassidy has some neck complaining about OUR county but sure he has his big pay cheque to comfort him. There has never been less Cargin players representing Antrim than since he came to Cargin. Go and work for YOUR county Cassidy as you are doing nothing for OURs >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 17, 2019, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
County chairman has now spoke out about it which is a good thing.
The chairman spoke well on the matter and was manly about it.
Cassidy has some neck complaining about OUR county but sure he has his big pay cheque to comfort him. There has never been less Cargin players representing Antrim than since he came to Cargin. Go and work for YOUR county Cassidy as you are doing nothing for OURs >:(

Who urinated on your pastie bap?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2019, 08:28:40 PM
Good win for aghagallon over st endas. Would have predicted the other way round but six point win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2019, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 17, 2019, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
County chairman has now spoke out about it which is a good thing.
The chairman spoke well on the matter and was manly about it.
Cassidy has some neck complaining about OUR county but sure he has his big pay cheque to comfort him. There has never been less Cargin players representing Antrim than since he came to Cargin. Go and work for YOUR county Cassidy as you are doing nothing for OURs >:(

Who urinated on your pastie bap?
Its a pastie wrap these days!  ;D
It just doesn't sit well with me when a hired hand from another county takes to twitter to lambast our county chairman who seems to me from his work at st enda's and the county to be a hard working volunteer - he admitted it was a mistake and has given his word it won't happen again - Cassidy is just trying to whip up the bad feeling against the county in Cargin for his own ends - its all about him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 20, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
This just reappeared on Twitter. A classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrooZwU2Hh8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 20, 2019, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2019, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 17, 2019, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
County chairman has now spoke out about it which is a good thing.
The chairman spoke well on the matter and was manly about it.
Cassidy has some neck complaining about OUR county but sure he has his big pay cheque to comfort him. There has never been less Cargin players representing Antrim than since he came to Cargin. Go and work for YOUR county Cassidy as you are doing nothing for OURs >:(

Who urinated on your pastie bap?
Its a pastie wrap these days!  ;D
It just doesn't sit well with me when a hired hand from another county takes to twitter to lambast our county chairman who seems to me from his work at st enda's and the county to be a hard working volunteer - he admitted it was a mistake and has given his word it won't happen again - Cassidy is just trying to whip up the bad feeling against the county in Cargin for his own ends - its all about him

A bit harsh - Cassidy is no different from any other mercenary manager - the ones from Antrim don't care about Antrim county either as the success of the county wont help them keep their jobs.  Im sure loyal Antrim men will be donning opposition county tracksuits in coaching or managerial roles if they come up.    Mercenary managers look after Nr 1.....and that is themselves -  not the club nor county that they manage.   I suspect Cassidy just venting or trying to encourage an 'us against them', which judging by the County Board's and Cargin's past relationship, requires much work  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 20, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
never understood the want to take another club. Its just not something i would have any passion for or the same heart in it as i would for my own club.

each to their own by all means buts just not something that would ever interest me. i was offered a paid coaching role a year ago at another club but to be honest id rather put my time into helping one of our own teams - even throwing water onto the pitch if needs be.

I like Damian by the way and his coaching and the results he gets speaks for themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Some good matches coming up this weekend. Whats our predictions for the following:

Moneyglass Vs Dunloy
Rasharkin Vs Randalstown
Davitts Vs Sarsfields
Lamh Dhearg Vs Ahoghill
Aghagallon Vs St Teresas
Portglenone Vs St Brigids
Gort Na Mona Vs Rossa

My predictions are Dunloy, Randalstown, Sarsfields, LD, Aghagallon, Portglenone and Rossa. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 21, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Some good matches coming up this weekend. Whats our predictions for the following:

Moneyglass Vs Dunloy
Rasharkin Vs Randalstown
Davitts Vs Sarsfields
Lamh Dhearg Vs Ahoghill
Aghagallon Vs St Teresas
Portglenone Vs St Brigids
Gort Na Mona Vs Rossa

My predictions are Dunloy, Randalstown, Sarsfields, LD, Aghagallon, Portglenone and Rossa.

Same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2019, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 21, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Some good matches coming up this weekend. Whats our predictions for the following:

Moneyglass Vs Dunloy
Rasharkin Vs Randalstown
Davitts Vs Sarsfields
Lamh Dhearg Vs Ahoghill
Aghagallon Vs St Teresas
Portglenone Vs St Brigids
Gort Na Mona Vs Rossa

My predictions are Dunloy, Randalstown, Sarsfields, LD, Aghagallon, Portglenone and Rossa.

Same
Gorts for me / very strong at home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2019, 11:24:33 AM
Moneyglass for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 23, 2019, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2019, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 21, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Some good matches coming up this weekend. Whats our predictions for the following:

Moneyglass Vs Dunloy
Rasharkin Vs Randalstown
Davitts Vs Sarsfields
Lamh Dhearg Vs Ahoghill
Aghagallon Vs St Teresas
Portglenone Vs St Brigids
Gort Na Mona Vs Rossa

My predictions are Dunloy, Randalstown, Sarsfields, LD, Aghagallon, Portglenone and Rossa.

Same
Gorts for me / very strong at home

:o They won five league games of which two were against St Enda's and St Bridigs. Won three away and two at home. Do you constantly talk shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2019, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 23, 2019, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2019, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 21, 2019, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Some good matches coming up this weekend. Whats our predictions for the following:

Moneyglass Vs Dunloy
Rasharkin Vs Randalstown
Davitts Vs Sarsfields
Lamh Dhearg Vs Ahoghill
Aghagallon Vs St Teresas
Portglenone Vs St Brigids
Gort Na Mona Vs Rossa

My predictions are Dunloy, Randalstown, Sarsfields, LD, Aghagallon, Portglenone and Rossa.

Same
Gorts for me / very strong at home

:o They won five league games of which two were against St Enda's and St Bridigs. Won three away and two at home. Do you constantly talk shite.
Hadn't check league table before post but I have now and they beat St Teresa's St Enda and St Brigids at home and won 3 away so yes I do talk some shite but I can add up ! (league table 12 points)
Having played and coached against them over the years they always seem more up for it at home on the tight pitch that's all :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on August 23, 2019, 02:54:55 PM
It's championship, it's at a neutral venue. They may well win but it won't have much to do with their home form
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
U r right - I've lost the plot ! away to book a holiday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 23, 2019, 04:52:56 PM
Would Moneyglass not be in with a good chance of beating Dunloy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2019, 05:11:21 PM
Definitely on league standings. I think Dunloy's standard will vary depending on how many hurlers are available. Dunloy won the league game though I think.(Well the 2nd one - not sure about first)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 23, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
Toby 47.... your post reminiscing about that particular encounter against Derry nineteen years ago always touches a raw nerve with me. Casement Park in full flow, thousands of Antrim supporters full vocal and Saffron everywhere, and our boys forcing the much vaunted Oak Leaf onto the ropes. Derry were probably a top six team then, NFL div one winners in that era. Kevin Madden's point with his left foot, practically on the goal line....what a score. A timely reminder what pure pride passion endeavour and team spirit can deliver. Like the day our hurlers beat Offaly in 89, two days of a lifetime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 23, 2019, 11:20:53 PM
I think Derry were actually National League champions that year? Yeah that was some day. 19 effing years. Even now its a decade since our 'breakthrough' year of '09..there was so much promise around that team and era and it lasted a good few seasons. Hopefully we can get that back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 24, 2019, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Some good matches coming up this weekend. Whats our predictions for the following:

Moneyglass Vs Dunloy
Rasharkin Vs Randalstown
Davitts Vs Sarsfields
Lamh Dhearg Vs Ahoghill
Aghagallon Vs St Teresas
Portglenone Vs St Brigids
Gort Na Mona Vs Rossa

Moneyglass, Randalstown, Sarsfields, Lamh Dhearg, Aghagallon, Portglenone, Rossa

My predictions are Dunloy, Randalstown, Sarsfields, LD, Aghagallon, Portglenone and Rossa.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 26, 2019, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 23, 2019, 11:20:53 PM
I think Derry were actually National League champions that year? Yeah that was some day. 19 effing years. Even now its a decade since our 'breakthrough' year of '09..there was so much promise around that team and era and it lasted a good few seasons. Hopefully we can get that back.

'09 was the real waste - we had a young talented team that got promoted up the divisions for the first time in years.  If we'd steadied the ship then and not messed Baker around we could have had a real foundation for future years.  2000 was the plucky underdog catching Derry cold in the 2nd half with two fortunate (but well taken) goals. We had them reeling but Derry showed us what was what in the replay.  McGreevy, McManus, Quinn, Doyle and Brady were good enough for the '09 team and dragged that '00 team above themselves to 2 terrific days out as the underdog, but the rest of the squad were limited. 

The '09 team had potential to go somewhere, some genuine top level footballers and yet the powers that be decided to interfere.  Oh well, they gave us some good days out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2019, 02:52:05 PM
Championship pretty much to script at the weekend. Dunloy moneyglass the only result not everyone predicted.

Agreed spike. Coleman and Morris coming in also a bit help in 2000. 2009 we had decent enough players then for various reasons we never seem to get our best selection out there.

After 2000 I wasn't sure I would ever see an Antrim team in an Ulster final so at least i have that lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 26, 2019, 02:55:50 PM
The great days of 09..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2019, 08:51:06 AM
we just didn't play well at all on Sat evening. Moneyglass were superb and everything they hit went over the bar, it was a pretty impressive display from them and they would be my favs to win it now.

Portglenone was a good venue for a double header and the club had everything sorted to perfection. a good show from them. that pitch is like a carpet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2019, 07:47:03 PM
Our groundsmen will be chuffed to hear that DR.

Moneyglass looked comfortable throughout and will take a bit of beating alright, but there are still one or two clubs who will give them a run for their money. Keelan Molloy is a joy to watch in full flight, but he's lost to the small ball so we will only see the odd glimpse here and there of his ability. Def a county senior panellist if he ever thought about a change of scenery for a year...lol.

If the games I saw Tir Na Nog looked in decent shape too, moved well, and can't be completely discounted. Portglenone made hard work of dispatching gutsy St Brigids, we can thank our keeper Ryan O Neill for a few saves that allowed us just a bit of breathing space throughout.

Anyone standing out that Lenny should be looking for next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on August 28, 2019, 07:57:53 AM
plain and simply I cant see the reasons why lenny has been given another year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 28, 2019, 10:10:53 AM
If anyone had asked me 2 years ago that after two years of failure to get out of division 4, that I'd support a third year for the same manager (no matter who he was) I'd have said not a chance. But sometimes there's a need to step back and take a wider view of things and not jump to irrational decisions. Or as Hardstation rightly says, why advocate change just for changes sake.

I base my support for another term on two main factors. One, we were very unlucky against Derry where we had a good point disallowed, and robbed blind in Carrick On Shannon by a carnapicious wee Sligo ref who played to the large home support. I say robbed blind because in 40 years I never saw decisions like B Judge (some name) made that day. We were highly competitive in both games and lost both by one point. In effect our league as good as over, and we had a horrific championship draw with Tyrone to contend with.

At this stage Lenny is ten times wider about the players he can depend on, the new type of players that would come in and either make a difference or strengthen proper competition for match selection. He will know what needs freshened up and what the priorities are to eke out 10% or 20% improvement across the board that should give us a real chance of finally getting out of division four. If that means tweaking his ground rules to facilitate one or two additions during the campaign, then maybe that needs to be taken into consideration.

If we are still having this same discussion in 10 months, then I'd find it much harder to support a fourth term, but I hope and expect Lenny gets ratified for another year and be confident that being the case, there will be a noticeable improvement on the first two.







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 28, 2019, 10:27:34 AM
I just think an outside manager with charisma like Baker might bring all together and get a bit of a buzz again behind the county team

How people wanted Baker out after our achievements was beyond me. Granted we had some cracking players with drive and bite at that stage, our half back line in particular had pace and drive, something that has been sorely lacking before and since

To be honest it is totally flat at the moment and whether that has anything to do with the management I don't know.

Agree there is no point to change for change shake but if anyone worthwhile wants to breath life and charisma into us I'd be all for it now, not next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 28, 2019, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 28, 2019, 10:10:53 AM
If anyone had asked me 2 years ago that after two years of failure to get out of division 4, that I'd support a third year for the same manager (no matter who he was) I'd have said not a chance. But sometimes there's a need to step back and take a wider view of things and not jump to irrational decisions. Or as Hardstation rightly says, why advocate change just for changes sake.

I base my support for another term on two main factors. One, we were very unlucky against Derry where we had a good point disallowed, and robbed blind in Carrick On Shannon by a carnapicious wee Sligo ref who played to the large home support. I say robbed blind because in 40 years I never saw decisions like B Judge (some name) made that day. We were highly competitive in both games and lost both by one point. In effect our league as good as over, and we had a horrific championship draw with Tyrone to contend with.

At this stage Lenny is ten times wider about the players he can depend on, the new type of players that would come in and either make a difference or strengthen proper competition for match selection. He will know what needs freshened up and what the priorities are to eke out 10% or 20% improvement across the board that should give us a real chance of finally getting out of division four. If that means tweaking his ground rules to facilitate one or two additions during the campaign, then maybe that needs to be taken into consideration.

If we are still having this same discussion in 10 months, then I'd find it much harder to support a fourth term, but I hope and expect Lenny gets ratified for another year and be confident that being the case, there will be a noticeable improvement on the first two.

BS, our squad is the only one in Ireland that is getting physically smaller in size and body shape. Never mind the tactics, that is unforgivable.  Lenny was a poor choice to start with, he extinguished our last hope of getting the stayaways to come back with his banality and in two years has actually regressed us as a footballing force (which was quite the achievement given how how poor the previous regime had left us) .......why oh why would we give him a another term.  You're basing it on coming within a point of derry in a league game as a reason to keep him on??! Holy Christ. 

There has not been one positive that Lenny has brought to Antrim, not one. Jobs for the boys if he gets another year. 

Gold is right in that the whole thing is flat, we need new blood - but a considered choice and not another bargain bucket.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 28, 2019, 09:39:24 PM
So we get rid of LH and start the cycle again? Or do we give him one more chance?

Do we hijack the Johnny McBride ticket from Derry? Do we go back to John McKeever and offer him the job or do we go back to West Belfast and get somebody from there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 28, 2019, 11:30:33 PM
Spike I share your hurt, but trying to be rational about the matter, I base my support on deserving a draw at least against Derry and Leitrim (the two teams who went up) and also an exceptionally good performance against Louth who were level at top of division three. But yes...2019 was overall disappointing for various reasons. The loss of four big players from the year before didnt help, all players I'd have expected to start and make a difference.

The stay away supporters wont appreciate how Paddy Mc Aleer was progressing, or 2018 POY Peter Healey, or Conor Murray who is one of the best in the county atm. Kristian Healey and Mark Sweeney (Dublin club player of the year with St Judes) were missing for personal reasons, and all 5 above have the physique and technical ability to be in or around our first 15. Marty Johnston was out hurt too for a long time. So if you can work with that, this is largely what I'm basing my support for Lenny for another term. Regarding physique, the POY last year was the diminutive Patrick Mc Cormack.

Lenny does need to look at things now with the benefit of two years at the helm, and should be shrewd enough to know that it needs some tweaks to inject fresh impetus and reinvigorate both the squad and the supporters. As Gold rightly states, the scene has gone a bit flat in recent years, and the missing supporters are waiting on something exciting to draw them back again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 31, 2019, 11:14:48 PM
BS, I  need your positivity - you should bottle it and sell it.

Paddy McCormaick is a nice footballer, but has limits (needs a few years). 

Connor murray is a good footballer but you need a workhorse with him as conor doesn't like the tracking back.  Mark sweeney is def county grade. marty is a squad man, and to be frank, you must be watching a different kristian than i am. 

Lenny started stale and has continued thus. Sadly, if you watch cargin or at galls when at full strength, the best players on the pitch are from those 2 clubs (aging as they are) and lenny seemingly cant get players (even the ones who are not well into their thirties) from those clubs to play.  Big problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 03, 2019, 07:28:19 AM
Looking at players looking at managers debating who's up to the grade who isn't! We had two great Minor/U20 squads that proved they have the ability to play football if kept together and worked with in a strategic manner for the next 3 years and then resign ourselves to fact that we may progress out of Div4 then which would be realistic and possibly compete. These kids have been virtually ignored or lost interest as they are being looked after through their clubs or universities where the penny has dropped. 

Ask yourselves this, would you write a cheque to Antrim? If so would you have the confidence that it would be invested wisely? Then you ask yourself the question, is the brains there within the present executive that exists?

I would say no,  as its been a musical chair exercise for years and if that doesn't change and we don't purge the present committees and senior executive then we will continue to have "no pot to piss in" and invest strategically for the young talent that eventually walk away due to the lack of leadership and intelligence!

We need to get people involved that have nothing to prove to anyone, possibly retired from professional life and used to doing deals and don't need the cash as part of their everyday week to week budgets! A total clean house from the top and build slowly but intelligently with proper investment that is totally transparent to all the clubs and maybe then we will get the buy in from all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 04, 2019, 08:25:53 AM
"Looking at players looking at managers debating who's up to the grade who isnt".

Youve lost me. Has somebody done something wrong?? Is this something we shouldn't do?

To me the county panel should consist of the best players in the county, at that particular time, whether they are aged 18 or 34. There are indeed some excellent footballers in or around the 20 year old age group....let them shine in the next few weeks with their clubs and I am quite confident their talent will be noted!

You suggest getting rid of whole county board, get whole new group of experienced professionals in. "Its been a musical chair exercise for years"......then you go on to advocate moving those same chairs again!!!

Gaelfast....which extends into other areas of the county too, is a major part of the strategic plan, but one that requires both buy in and patience.. And yes, Croke Park did write the cheque because they did see a calibre of executive they could do business with.

Of course not everything's rosy in the garden, but there is a lot of good work going on if you actually choose to want to see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 04, 2019, 11:53:25 AM
 To me the county panel should consist of the best players in the county, at that particular time, whether they are aged 18 or 34. There are indeed some excellent footballers in or around the 20 year old age group....let them shine in the next few weeks with their clubs and I am quite confident their talent will be noted! [/

I haven't seen this happening and they've been shinning for a while?

You suggest getting rid of whole county board, get whole new group of experienced professionals in. "Its been a musical chair exercise for years"......then you go on to advocate moving those same chairs again!!!

I havent advocated moving any chairs Ive suggested getting rid of all the dead wood that's been involved for years in those chairs and achieved nought but take up a different role because of mate rates! Attract people that have achieved success in their lives that have genuinely walked away in their droves to other sports.

Gaelfast....which extends into other areas of the county too, is a major part of the strategic plan, but one that requires both buy in and patience.. And yes, Croke Park did write the cheque because they did see a calibre of executive they could do business with.


To my knowledge and I stand to be corrected haven't engaged with UU or Queens where that talent is in abundance as part of their strategic plan.... We expect Croke to write a cheque, talking about the corporate approach to save us going back cap in hand to sponsor's and virtually pleading with them to stay at reduced rates! We are not an attractive prospect plain and simple.

Of course not everything's rosy in the garden, but there is a lot of good work going on if you actually choose to want to see it.

We agree on something its not... work with everyday bannside and yes some fantastic work at grass root club level but not at high level imo.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 04, 2019, 12:16:53 PM
Whatwillbewillb, who are the young players who "have been shining for a while" that you feel have been over-looked by Lenny and the county set up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 04, 2019, 02:15:54 PM
The senior management team will know every player that has featured for the under 20s of the last few years, and the few years before that. They have scouts at many games, and will have at upcoming championship matches over the coming weeks and months. Hopefully the players you feel are worthy of inclusion on senior panel do enough to catch the eye. If not feel free to pm the names of those you feel are not getting due consideration. But theres a good chance they are already on Lennys radar if they're up to the required standard.

Putting their names out here is not a good idea. Every Tom Dick and Harry will have an opinion and youd be surprised how negative people can be. Better for them to do their talking on the pitch. We dont have hundreds of class acts so they have a bit of class, that should stand out.

You mention Higher Level. Are these guys you talk of playing Sigerson? Because that's the minimum standard I would suggest!  I'm not debating here with you by the way. We are all looking for the Antrim to fulfil their potential.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 06:32:18 AM
Respectfully bannside, I feel your still missing my point.

You mention Higher Level. Are these guys you talk of playing Sigerson? Because that's the minimum standard I would suggest!  I'm not debating here with you by the way. We are all looking for the Antrim to fulfil their potential.

Your still at 10 so to speak Im at 3 in relation to this talent, it needs to be assembled separately and then worked with and investment put in  to eventually become our senior panel. We need to accept the fact that Div4 is a reality for the next few years which is realistic and build with a specific focus, most of these young guns will I'm sure play Sigerson for their universities as well as lads that aren't at uni.

Lots of genuine lads on here talking about Cargin Galls etc and the older lads that can still do a job, where's the vision? BTW I know Lennie and most of the senior management of both codes a long time, this is not a criticism around those lads in any way.  I squarely leave the blame of where we are today as previously said with the decision makers around all the committee's for years (same faces different roles) in the county for lack of vision, couldn't do it then cant do it now! 

Corporately why would you work your backside off  encourage substantial investment/sponsorship  into the County when I know probably like you that this would be squandered or disappear on "self help" scenarios and never reach the likes of Lennie or other committed lads managing teams within the County levels looking with some intelligence to the future without the financial and full support of the county. 

Who made the decision allegedly and ridiculous if this did happen, to pay all the players before last season started a set one off figure to cover expenses for the year? Which btw I believe  goes against all GPA rules ? This would be an example of what I'm talking about if this actually did happen, and I accept that this may just be a scurrilous rumour, clubs need to be included it needs to be open a fully transparent.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 05, 2019, 08:19:45 AM
Players from the previous years championship panel receive a bit of a grant (which is paid by the GPA not the county) that they are given at the start of the following season. Perhaps this is what you mean as there were definitely no expenses paid in advance.

All players need to submit monthly expense claims (mileage + £20 per week food allowance) which need to be signed off by management and the county treasurer before payment each month.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 12:11:56 PM
Thanks for that Caesar I am aware of the procedure but that wasn't what I was saying, no arguement with what GPA do annually it's the last paragraph I have issue with as allegedly some players have indicated that's not what has transpired, one lad supposedly took his and spun off to America. Agreed that's what should have occurred as indicated in your response. Open and transparent .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2019, 12:45:53 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 12:11:56 PM
Thanks for that Caesar I am aware of the procedure but that wasn't what I was saying, no arguement with what GPA do annually it's the last paragraph I have issue with as allegedly some players have indicated that's not what has transpired, one lad supposedly took his and spun off to America. Agreed that's what should have occurred as indicated in your response. Open and transparent .

Can you name this person ? If so it's just hearsay by an anonymous person on an Internet forum. You're neither open or transparent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 05, 2019, 01:08:21 PM
The Antrim Football thread on the Gaaboard demands transparency
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 05, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 05, 2019, 01:08:21 PM
The Antrim Football thread on the Gaaboard demands transparency

And a football team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 05, 2019, 03:03:58 PM
Weekend Championship Predictions

St Galls v Aghagallon - St Galls by 4
Cargin v Rossa - Cargin by 8
St Johns v Portglenone - St Johns by 3
Creggan v Lamh Dhearg - Creggan by 2

Naomh Seamus v Ballymena - Ballymena by 3
Moneyglass v Randalstown - Moneyglass by 4
Sarsfields v Glenravel - Sarsfields by 2
St Paul's v St Joseph's - Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 03:08:09 PM
Want we to PM you MR2 like before? That's neither open or transparent?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2019, 03:21:22 PM
Some interesting games there. Creggan LD a big one. Be interesting to see what Portglenone do against st johns though I would expect st johns to be too strong.

Based on league form Glenavy should beat st pauls by 5-10 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2019, 04:10:12 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 03:08:09 PM
Want we to PM you MR2 like before? That's neither open or transparent?

You're hiding behind a computer and giving off, you're not as open because you're hiding.

I feel it's unfair to throw stones. The perfect storm you want is not available, it's not available in most counties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 05:30:52 PM
MR2 you must have been given a nod & wink for championship game maybe even a final Totes reads this board on a regular basis ;) Don't want to get into a slanging match MR2 but happy to trade if that's what you want. Bannside, Ceasar & I were having a reasonable discussion and if true it will out in good time Ref "expense gate"  and you decided to weigh in. Happy to let it rest or up for the sport I'll leave it with ya.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2019, 08:26:40 PM
Some weekends football ahead. Good chance I'll see all four QFs as well as the intermediate double header here in Portglenone on Saturday night. Four SW v City clashes to add to the spice, we will all be a bit wiser come Monday. May some county stars of the future stand out, and may the best teams win. Looking forward to us v St John's...both teams seem to have days where they look great followed by days they can look very average....but if both teams bring their A games it should be a cracker!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2019, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 05, 2019, 05:30:52 PM
MR2 you must have been given a nod & wink for championship game maybe even a final Totes reads this board on a regular basis ;) Don't want to get into a slanging match MR2 but happy to trade if that's what you want. Bannside, Ceasar & I were having a reasonable discussion and if true it will out in good time Ref "expense gate"  and you decided to weigh in. Happy to let it rest or up for the sport I'll leave it with ya.

I've nothing to hide, you clearly do, otherwise you'd have a proper open discussion about it. Instead of hiding  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2019, 08:52:33 PM
Ballymena beat. Not sure if that is an upset or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2019, 10:46:04 PM
Ballymena 5 up and cruising with an extra man ITG and somehow Aldergrove managed to pip them at the post. Two decent sides at the grade but Moneyglass looked sharp in seeing off a decent Randalstown in the second match here, and I'd see them as favourites to lift the Intermediate title.

St Galls and Cargin did enough respectively to see off Aghagallon and Rossa as expected, tomorrow will see who joins them in the senior semis.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 08, 2019, 07:35:07 AM
MR2 come on get real, you wouldn't expect anyone to come on here and directly name present county panel lads that spoke in confidence about what allegedly occurred you wouldn't!  You've nothing to hid because we all know who you are and posters have over time and postings have highlighted this, its not that you "stood tall" and outed yourself!

Surely you have to admit that you have tempered your comments over time on the board only because you have allegedly been spoken to in the past about your comments from the county board while you continue to ref and I have no issue with this to be fair? As I said don't want to get into a spat with you, btw good luck today Glenavy should progress without too much trouble.

Back to my original posting, Bannside watched some great youngster's yesterday, young Adam Loughran from St Mary's Agahagallon looks a fabulous talent as does young Connor Morris from St James's to name a few young guns from yesterday's games. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2019, 07:47:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 07, 2019, 10:46:04 PM
Ballymena 5 up and cruising with an extra man ITG and somehow Aldergrove managed to pip them at the post. Two decent sides at the grade but Moneyglass looked sharp in seeing off a decent Randalstown in the second match here, and I'd see them as favourites to lift the Intermediate title.

St Galls and Cargin did enough respectively to see off Aghagallon and Rossa as expected, tomorrow will see who joins them in the senior semis.

What videos I saw looked like a great atmosphere for Randalstown moneyglass. They look like two teams on the up which is good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
100% agree Whatwillbe, those two definitely caught the eye, with Adam Loughran in particular cementing his reputation as the best young player in the county atm. No doubt both will be high on the list of Lenny scouting team. I really liked Aaron Mc Neilly too from Tir Na Nog, up there as the classiest act on the day along with the peerless Patrick Mc Cormack and Justin Crozier. Plenty of young talent starting to emerge, Bugsy Mc Erlean another with obvious claims too, even if he was a bit quiet by his own standard last night. Smiley Duffin superb too last night imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2019, 05:03:40 PM
Draw between St. John's and Portglenone. Didn't see that coming. Bs's optimism must be rubbing off ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2019, 07:52:20 PM
St Johns replay on Wednesday night  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 08, 2019, 07:54:28 PM
The lunatics are back in charge of the asylum, Jesus Wept!!  Seriously is this county expecting St. John's to play the replay on Wed night, with the hurling semi final on Sunday?  What about player welfare, the integrity of competitions, being fair etc. etc.  Surly this is a wind up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2019, 08:47:12 PM
Reading the twitter thread from the county message about the replay. Some uproar. It is ridiculous mind.

Interesting results at the weekend. Ld making a big statement. Intermediate not quite going as expected in almost every game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2019, 09:49:29 PM
Another cracking days sport. Us and St John's will battle it out one more time, and I expect nothing less than another close full blooded encounter. We dont fear them at all, they're a bit like ourselves, hit or miss, theyll not fear us either.....so it will be all down to who ever brings their A game on the night.

Lamh Dhearg made a big statement tonight. They looked good all over the pitch....it will take a good team to beat them methinks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 08, 2019, 09:54:32 PM
were LD good or Creggan meek BS? Perhaps a mixture of both?   heard from a couple of people who were at the match that said creggan were never in it and looked a bit tepid even after LDs red card. LD is cruise mode?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2019, 10:44:43 PM
I expected much better from Creggan tbh Spike. They just didn't fire and that can happen and you don't see it coming. I thought they had the momentum approaching HT, three scores on the bounce and a man extra on the pitch. But that ten mins was their only real spell of dominance. I liked the shape of LD, they just stifled Creggan from the get go. It was the best team performance in the quarter finals in my book.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 08, 2019, 11:16:55 PM
LD big, mobile and they have a nasty streak.  They look as good as the year they won it.  But Creggan never really got going.  In 2nd half LD messed about time wasting and trying to make the game disjointed.  I think they would have won by more if they had just played attacking football.  Creggan were supposed to be the coming team, but they looked a long way off tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2019, 08:40:49 AM
I'd prefer not to discuss the referee Peter John, with emotions still running high from yesterday. To be fair that wasn't as easy game to referee yesterday, all the more reason a referee should trust his linemen and umpires, but time after time BT refused to do so. Why not Brendan, that's the question I would put to him if he reads on here which according to Whatwillbe, he does. Why not??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 09, 2019, 12:10:29 PM
I agree Hardstation, imagine the audacity of us promoting two codes!! 

Peter John your guff doesn't even merit a response! 

Bannside, you're a reasonable guy and fair play, I read your first sentence about not talking about the referee and then you go on to do so, strange!  But as for him not consulting his officials, his two linesmen were the reason St. Johns got two red cards, fully justifiable I may add, both 100% correct decisions, so not sure where your coming from on that one.

Bannside I'd be interested on your thoughts of forcing St. Johns to play on Wednesday night giving their hurling commitments?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 09, 2019, 01:00:28 PM
As a neutral at the Portglenone vs St Johns game it was a highly entertaining game of football! Portglenone must be kicking themselves for not getting the win, but actually they were lucky to force a replay in the end. Would expect St Johns to kick on and win it the next day.

A replay in three days time if far from ideal for both teams,especially for a dual club with being tasked with 3 championship games in week!

I would agree with Bannside though that there was an occasion in the second half when the lines man was clearly demonstrating to the referee that Paddy McBride had struck an opponent, but that no card was given. In truth McBride was involved in several incidents where he was very lucky to stay on the field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2019, 01:06:56 PM
Ahh now lads, we've been down this road before. Don't slate St Johns, they are just misunderstood!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2019, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2019, 07:52:20 PM
St Johns replay on Wednesday night  8)

With Portglenone hosting a relegation/promotion play off match on wednesday night,would this not also lead to problems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 09, 2019, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: Caesar on September 09, 2019, 01:00:28 PM
As a neutral at the Portglenone vs St Johns game it was a highly entertaining game of football! Portglenone must be kicking themselves for not getting the win, but actually they were lucky to force a replay in the end. Would expect St Johns to kick on and win it the next day.

A replay in three days time if far from ideal for both teams,especially for a dual club with being tasked with 3 championship games in week!

I would agree with Bannside though that there was an occasion in the second half when the lines man was clearly demonstrating to the referee that Paddy McBride had struck an opponent, but that no card was given. In truth McBride was involved in several incidents where he was very lucky to stay on the field.

So as a neutral presumably you'll be able to confirm the constant targeting of certain St John's players (one in particular) and the failure of BT to book a Portglenone player for a deliberate trip (he even pointing towards his foot when he gave the free). Just in the interests of having a balanced debate.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 09, 2019, 03:54:15 PM
I cant say I noticed any St Johns players in particular getting singled out but I am sure it's possible. Portglenone were certainly no angels themselves but they kept their discipline a bit more than St Johns. Portglenone probably thought they had another round to play in the bag.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2019, 04:06:30 PM
In reply to Memory Man, I'm not so sure that enquiring why a referee chose to not consult with umpires, on several significant occasions,  especially in a game where a couple of extra eyes on proceedings would be useful, is any form of abuse... but then again, in a mild form maybe it is....but there you go, we all have flaws when we are emotionally attached!

Wednesday is indeed a quick turnaround for both teams, is there a preferred date which you consider more appropriate to play it? If St Johns win their hurling semi final, when would there ever be a suitable date that would not hold up the progress of the football championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2019, 08:07:48 PM
It is a shame after a good weekend of championship games this is what people end up talking about. Typical.

When are the draws being made for the next round?

Well senior is made but intermediate and junior?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 09, 2019, 09:12:46 PM
Lenny ratified for another year.  Dear God. The success of failure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 09, 2019, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 09, 2019, 07:30:16 PM
I don't know why we can't just get a winner on the day and avoid this congestion. Or at least try, by having 2 x 10 mins of extra time.

The Johnnies' hurlers are getting a serious shafting here. Never mind their players having to play 3 championship games in a week, it is likely they have been unable to get a proper training session in the 2 weeks before a championship semi final.

Agreed. Just have a winner on the day. 2 x 10 mins extra time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2019, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2019, 08:07:48 PM
It is a shame after a good weekend of championship games this is what people end up talking about. Typical.

When are the draws being made for the next round?

Well senior is made but intermediate and junior?

Senior is st galls v cargin and LD v st John's or portglenone
Intermediete is moneyglass v Glenravel and st Paul's v aldergrove
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2019, 09:48:54 PM
It'll be a LD V Galls SFC final & M'Glass V St Pauls final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 09, 2019, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2019, 04:06:30 PM
In reply to Memory Man, I'm not so sure that enquiring why a referee chose to not consult with umpires, on several significant occasions,  especially in a game where a couple of extra eyes on proceedings would be useful, is any form of abuse... but then again, in a mild form maybe it is....but there you go, we all have flaws when we are emotionally attached!

Wednesday is indeed a quick turnaround for both teams, is there a preferred date which you consider more appropriate to play it? If St Johns win their hurling semi final, when would there ever be a suitable date that would not hold up the progress of the football championship?

Bannside I never once mentioned abuse or accusing you of abusing the referee... but totally agree with you when you're emotionally attached the flaws surface with us all, especially when you've been with the one club for nearly 50 years.  :) 

The common sense approach would be to play the replay on Sunday 22nd, the scheduled date for football semi finals, play St. Galls and Cargin and replay on that date.  It has no effect on hurling schedule.  There is scope and space in the calendar before Ulster kicks in.  Is this not the very reason Croke Park brought forward the All Ireland Finals last year, to give counties more space for club games?  Surly we don't have to shoe horn everything into a very tight timeframe.  I just feel the integrity of our championships is being compromised by a few small minded, petty and bitter little men, who would be welcome in a certain political party with their unwavering overuse of; NO, NO NEVER!!

Unfortunately I don't hold out much hope for common sense to prevail, as we still have a small minority of people with their own agenda's, not the betterment of Antrim GAA which should be all our agenda's.  There is no doubt the county is in better hands these last few years and great strides are being made on a number of fronts, but there are still a few poisonous apples in the mix, but their time will come to an end too.  I like you Bannside am an eternal optimist, see you Wednesday night under the lights somewhere!  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 10, 2019, 09:12:54 AM
Referees aren't allowed to send off county players; the other officials must be suppressed, especially in champo. The chairman must lead the charge...

Cup games should always finish on the day; one shot one kill, clean.

Ps good luck to Lenny.

Pss there have been many wee men doing a fine job in casement over the years; most who are sore now have probably been on the wrong side of a correct decision. I'll not talk about some of the big men in casement, if you have nothing...

Psss has there been a suitable logical explanation why casement was closed and unable to host games this past few years ?

Pssss it would seem that any referee that blows the whistle more than once in an incident is either too nervous or insecure to be doing the game; some poor decisions this past while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 10, 2019, 09:13:32 AM
in this day and age where the championship season is condensed, all games should be finished on the day. Extra time if need be and other entertaining ways perhaps. Simply dont have the time available and we have to fair to the participants and supporters.

I wouldnt say its due to poisoned apples in the county board, greed perhaps, laziness if i was harsh, but not malignant characters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 10, 2019, 09:21:13 AM
Spike appreciate your diplomacy and where you're coming from, however unfortunately the reality is, there still exists poisonous individuals within CCC in particular, who have their own agenda and will never change their ways.  The head of CCC has his work cut out with such dinosaurs and needs a complete clear out of current personnel.  They have been there far too long!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 10, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
I dont doubt they are backward, have their own agenda or have been there too long.  We may have  amateur status but Antrim GAA (like all counties) needs to be professionally run these days, whether that be on the training pitch or the board.   Bannside mentions a lot of great things happening at board level, and we can only take his valued word on that, but the optics that most supporters can see - County Senior Team, County Manager, Casement, Dunsilly, Attendances, Club Championships, Underage Coaching, Referee Quality etc still look like a shambles.     

Perhaps our sponsorship and Admin and fundraising are at record levels, congrats and well done if that is the case - but again its all 'behind the scenes', , cant be scrutinised or measured, and also intangible.   

All very important, but surely the investment in the footballers/hurlers of the clubs and county, and a proper venue (not corrigan), is of immediate priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
The SFC semi replay will be in Colaiste Feirste at 8pm.. Shambles absolute shambles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 02:47:10 PM
i agree paddy john, a club championship game should not be decided on a 4G pitch on a Wednesday night at 8PM .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on September 10, 2019, 02:57:48 PM
Is that true? That is absolutely crazy! Totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on September 10, 2019, 03:01:26 PM
What's the problem with extra time for all knockout championship games except a final perhaps. Not easy for the dual clubs when it has to go to the replay. I have heard it said to my own club from a senior CCC man in the past "It's your club's choice to field in both codes"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 10, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
Quote from: outinfront on September 10, 2019, 02:57:48 PM
Is that true? That is absolutely crazy! Totally unacceptable.

Unbelievable, is there one ounce of wit in there. What is wrong with Ahogill under lights?  We are continually let down. How insulting, a f**king school pitch never mind 3 bloody G


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 10, 2019, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
The SFC semi replay will be in Colaiste Feirste at 8pm.. Shambles absolute shambles

Jesus wept.

The next venue will be whiterock carpark
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on September 10, 2019, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
The SFC semi replay will be in Colaiste Feirste at 8pm.. Shambles absolute shambles


That's quite a small pitch for a senior football game, no?

There's only one 65M line so it's only 130 metres long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2019, 03:22:35 PM
Our club has been thrown into complete disarray half an hour ago with this late development. We havent trained or played on a 3G pitch, different feel to it completely. I've talked to a few of our top club officials and those involved in the team management, and at this stage I would very much doubt if we will be there.

I'm a big supporter of the new administration but if Ciaran Mc Cavanagh wants to lend his support to this (and I know he has)  then the gloves are off because I'm led to believe this decision comes from the top down. This would not happen in any other county full stop, and totally degrades the value  of our biggest domestic competition.

In case I am reading this too close to the action  can I take a quick straw poll from neutral people on here with no affiliation to Casements or St John's. Would YOUR club fulfil this fixture at a days notice, to play on a false surface that you were completely unused to??

I had genuine sympathy for the plight of St John's dual players, and would have supported a compromise if it was sensible, but this latest development stinks from a great height, and wont go down easily.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on September 10, 2019, 03:25:46 PM
I am not usually one to comment on another County's operating but I honestly find that totally unacceptable.  Shouldn't happen in championship, junior, intermediate or senior. 
Farcical!
Also what exactly is the compromise here for Johnnies dual players?  Is it less travel? Different surface? Whilst playing on grass feels heavier on the legs, 3G allows for greater speeds to be reached,is much less forgiving and can result in increased soreness which can be felt longer after the game!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 10, 2019, 03:29:25 PM
The board will be trying to call your bluff BS - they know its championship and will dare you not to turn up and basically jettison your season.

Unacceptable in its entirety.

And you wonder why contributors on this board doubt our county board. Read above.

ps could they have got the venue any closer to St John's pitch????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 10, 2019, 03:39:11 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 10, 2019, 03:29:25 PM
The board will be trying to call your bluff BS - they know its championship and will dare you not to turn up and basically jettison your season.

Unacceptable in its entirety.

And you wonder why contributors on this board doubt our county board. Read above.

ps could they have got the venue any closer to St John's pitch????
Yes, O'Donnells.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 03:39:56 PM
BS, Id be nowhere near it. Let them slide on and pull all county players and facilities from county use for games also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 10, 2019, 03:49:48 PM
To change a venue 24 hours before a championship quarter final to an artificial 3G pitch which is used by St Johns club as a training pitch is an absolute farce!

Undisguised favouritism.

McCavanagh has let himself down big time and lost all respect.

Every neutral in the county should now be supporting Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
i would presume this gives Portglenone extra motivation and I hope they win and slap it up the county. I wouldn't be hosting any more games for a long time the county will suffer if they were unable to use their facilities
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 10, 2019, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 03:39:56 PM
BS, Id be nowhere near it. Let them slide on and pull all county players and facilities from county use for games also.

Thats the nuclear option - only used by Cargin (who appear to refuse to bootlick the county board). 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 10, 2019, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
i would presume this gives Portglenone extra motivation and I hope they win and slap it up the county. I wouldn't be hosting any more games for a long time the county will suffer if they were unable to use their facilities

How often do the county use their facilities?  Creggan, Ahoghill, Dunloy and Ballycastle seem to get a good turn. portglenone much??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 10, 2019, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
i would presume this gives Portglenone extra motivation and I hope they win and slap it up the county. I wouldn't be hosting any more games for a long time the county will suffer if they were unable to use their facilities

How often do the county use their facilities?  Creggan, Ahoghill, Dunloy and Ballycastle seem to get a good turn. portglenone much??

5/6 so far this season alone.

Shambolic call from the county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 10, 2019, 05:56:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2019, 03:22:35 PM
Our club has been thrown into complete disarray half an hour ago with this late development. We havent trained or played on a 3G pitch, different feel to it completely. I've talked to a few of our top club officials and those involved in the team management, and at this stage I would very much doubt if we will be there.

I'm a big supporter of the new administration but if Ciaran Mc Cavanagh wants to lend his support to this (and I know he has)  then the gloves are off because I'm led to believe this decision comes from the top down. This would not happen in any other county full stop, and totally degrades the value  of our biggest domestic competition.

In case I am reading this too close to the action  can I take a quick straw poll from neutral people on here with no affiliation to Casements or St John's. Would YOUR club fulfil this fixture at a days notice, to play on a false surface that you were completely unused to??

I had genuine sympathy for the plight of St John's dual players, and would have supported a compromise if it was sensible, but this latest development stinks from a great height, and wont go down easily.



If this is true then it just confirms once again what I have been saying a full purge of the structure is needed in the county. Most clubs voted these people in so its hard to be sympathetic to be fair, however its a ridiculous situation, do as I say not as I do... 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2019, 07:18:04 PM
The result of the straw poll suggests that nobody on here would remotely agree with the decision that has been forced on us to turn up and play on an alien surface, with a days notice, on a pitch that apparently St John's occasionally use for training. What boots do players bring, what studs  the free kicking technique will probably be different, all sorts of things like that.

Is there a car park? Has the venue been passed for senior cship status? What about players and officials safety etc?. How much spectator capacity is there? All sorts of rumours that the pitch isnt standard size.....so many questions, as the ground is only open a few months and most of us havent ever been there!

For anyone with any interest in promoting integrity in sport to consider that equitable is truly beyond me...and opens a can of worms that will be difficult to put back in the box.

The sad thing is that it takes more than one person to make a call like this. How many officials were happy to give the green light to this preposterous proposal?? These are important questions that will now be subject to close scrutiny!

Our management and players are meeting right now to discuss our next move. What a shambles when the focus should be football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 07:51:31 PM
The buck stops with the county. End of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Is there any reason why it can't be in ahoghill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Is there any reason why it can't be in ahoghill

To appease St Johns. I can see their point of view also, 3 times out of the city in a week, 1 of those to the furtherest away pitch they can go to in the county. Takes a bit of fuel at 1.25/1.30 a litre. As another poster said, PG1s biggest game of the year and it's moved 24hours before due to county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2019, 08:24:07 PM
I actually do see this from St Johns point of view too Hardstation. We are all Gaels and there are many very reasonable St Johns folk I hold high esteem who deserve their case to be heard too... As an idea off the top of my head....what about Ahoghill on FRIDAY  night.

Our pitch could hold the St Johns v Dall hurling semi under lights NEXT WED night.

And Moneyglass v Ahoghill div one relegation playoff match originally down for tomorrow night at our pitch could go ahead as planned.

Would this not be a better compromise???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2019, 08:37:41 PM
As someone suggested play the replay the day of the semi and if the final is delayed so be it
LD wouldn't mind that id imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 08:45:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2019, 08:24:07 PM
I actually do see this from St Johns point of view too Hardstation. We are all Gaels and there are many very reasonable St Johns folk I hold high esteem who deserve their case to be heard too... As an idea off the top of my head....what about Ahoghill on FRIDAY  night.

Our pitch could hold the St Johns v Dall hurling semi under lights NEXT WED night.

And Moneyglass v Ahoghill div one relegation playoff match originally down for tomorrow night at our pitch could go ahead as planned.

Would this not be a better compromise???

But then the Dall are being brought into this also. What happens if they've lads away and due home this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2019, 08:51:55 PM
Good point PaddyJohn to be fair. It dosent get any easier!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 10, 2019, 08:58:53 PM
You guys voted in the board, you must back their decision making now, maybe all the facts aren't known...

As regards match tomorrow night;
Suck it up, buttercup - both clubs

Ps Next year, play to finish.

Pss. If it's got a 65m line, then it's a proper pitch

Psss parking ? It's held bigger events than this, get on with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 10, 2019, 09:53:24 PM
Lads, lads calm down with the faux outrage, you are like the Belfast Telegraph headline writer's.  Where was the out pouring of indignation for St. Johns expecting to play 3 games in 8 days and travel the length and breadth of the county?  The rednecks have to come to the Falls Rd and the place is in meltdown.

The four football quarter finals were in the South West at the weekend, the two hurling semi's are in Ballycastle on Sunday.  Rossa, St. Galls, Lamh Dhearg and ourselves all travelled at the weekend, not a word.  We're going to Ballycastle on Sunday for the second time in two years for a SHC semi final, never mind Dunloy for drawn semi final in hurling last year.  Not a word.  The diesel bill is through the roof FFS!

I can assure you all, we don't want to particularly play tomorrow night or on the 4G either, certainly increases the chances of injury and prolongs the recovery for our dual players but that doesn't really seem to resonate with the majority of you, except for our good friend Hardstation., the voice of reason, up the Rossa:)

Bannside whilst your suggestion is very admirable, its a bit late.  Call me cynical but I find it funny you didn't offer that solution when the replay was first muted, you all just assumed, the Johnnies men would traipse back up the M2 on Wed night.  I must admit it was a stroke of genius who ever came up with Colaiste Féirste, and honestly I don't know if it was a fellow clubman or someone with a modicum of decency and sense of fair play in the county. 

Bannside we too had a few members advocating the nuclear option of not turning up but in all seriousness that doesn't really benefit anyone does it?  I hope PG1 reach a sensible decision and don't let the Brexiteer's/ Little Englanders prevail and come see the lovely sights of the Falls Rd under lights tomorrow night.

The best scenario for all involved was the solution we put to the county, which would have no bearing on the hurling so as not to drag Cushendall into this debacle but as I said in an earlier post, common sense wouldn't prevail and we are where we are.  There is room in the fixture schedule to push the football championship back a week.  I still hope common sense will prevail and a reprieve will be granted to Portglenone and ourselves at the 11th hour and the replay will be on Sun 22nd Sept.

In the meantime keep the posts coming, haven't had this much craic on here in a long time.  ;)

Up the Johnnies.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 10, 2019, 11:15:00 PM
Memory man, you clearly don't get it. It has nothing to do with St Johns or Portglenone for me. It's utterly pathetic that a senior championship game is being played on a 3G school pitch.... let me say it again for you... a 3G school pitch. Embarrassing. The CB are clowns, insulting clowns, because you are focused on yourselves you can't see you to are being insulted to. We are a laughlin stock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2019, 11:33:58 PM
I totally get that this should be at a SA venue, in fact I was surprised on Sunday when I heard it was back at Ahoghill. But it's the one day notice, the provision of an artificial pitch which demeans the competition, the lack of opportunity to practice on the surface, the apparent lack of spectator space, and obvious health and safety concerns for players supporters and of course match officials too. Theres a lot of aspects here that are being glossed over in the rush to complete the fixture, so let's hope it passes off without too much incident or rancour and the process can begin to ensure that lessons are learnt to make sure the like of this dosent happen again.

Memory Man is right here in that there dosent seem to be any common sense involved in this at all, for BOTH clubs. There are enough sensible people that could have reached a compromise if that approach had been advocated.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 11, 2019, 06:54:11 AM
Yep, this has nothing to do with south or sw antrim venues - its about the pitch itself  and the apparent intervention by senior board members to get it moved to such an inadequate venue.  Surely theres another pitch in our glorious city capable of holding a match???

My personal opinion is that unless you move the hurling championship to another part of the year then this conjestion is the price you pay for success and participation in dual codes. Midweek matches seemingly ok for league campaigns but not championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 11, 2019, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 10, 2019, 11:15:00 PM
Memory man, you clearly don't get it. It has nothing to do with St Johns or Portglenone for me. It's utterly pathetic that a senior championship game is being played on a 3G school pitch.... let me say it again for you... a 3G school pitch. Embarrassing. The CB are clowns, insulting clowns, because you are focused on yourselves you can't see you to are being insulted to. We are a laughlin stock

God love these professional athletes having to get wee sore muscles playing on 3G for an hour  ::) ::) ::)

Get on with it lads. Bring the foam rollers and the resistance bands and youz will be graaaaand.  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2019, 08:57:16 AM
This thread has never ben so busy  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 11, 2019, 08:58:18 AM
Dunsilly King, read my post I clearly do get it, we don't want to play 3 Championship games in 8 days and on a 4G surface, I cant be any clearer. ::)

Bannside again totally agree with you, there should have been consultation with both clubs before the knee jerk reaction to re fix the game for Wed night was issued, but it smacks of box ticking, get the games played, move on.  No consideration for player welfare or people's lives and commitments.  I fully understand the frustration for PG1 to get to Belfast mid week on an autumn night, i'm sure some kids will miss out too given the time they would get home.  It has implications for us too with work commitments and people requiring flights etc. , all these things need changed and sorted.

Surly there must be a plan set at the start of the year with contingences built in for abnormal events like draws!! Imagine a game going to a draw, that never happens!  It was Dunloy last year who got shafted, us this year, God knows who next year, may even be St. Enda's now they are Div 1 hurling and football next year.  We are a dual county and invariably your best footballers are also your best hurlers, they are talented people.

I appreciate its easy to criticise on here and we all do our bit but in reality we need to clear the dinosaurs from the sub committees and the divisional boards, the clue is in the title, DIVISIONAL!  We need one county board for the whole county, dissolve South, South West and North Antrim Boards.  It is a legacy from the past, and set up for the right reasons given the conflict etc. and the difficulties of travel during the troubles.  But its the power hungry, insular individuals with no regard for others, I repeat they are poison, hence the apathy towards the County at times. They just look out for their own and their own patch.  The good people on these boards could fulfil the roles within one County Board, there's plenty of jobs to be done.

Ciaran is doing a good job following on from the great work done by Saffron Vision under Collie, Terry and Paul McCann.  There is a lot good about Antrim GAA but there is a lot still needs improved.  But we need more people to take on very important roles lower down the order.  The one big failing I see is the lack of communication in how decisions are made and the reasons why.  Sean does a brilliant job of PRO promoting our games etc and long may it continue but I would like to see greater transparency and communications.  Publish the fixtures plan, venues, times, contingencies.  Don't say they are sent to your club secretary.  Put them on the website for all to see.  Everybody should have known before a ball was kicked at the weekend what the next stage was if any of the four games ended in a replay.  It looks from the outside we're making this up on the hoof.  We have a full time secretary and administrator and now we're advertising for a Financial Controller, and we are becoming more professional.   Lets get our priorities right, give our blue ribbon events (SFC & SHC) the status and recognition they deserve.  Is that too much to ask?

The most galling thing about this is the fact there is a solution in front of them but no-one will grow a pair and make the call.  Ciaran did the right thing with the league and the error with Cargin and the trophy and got widely applauded  for it.  Time for another big decision.  Its now 8.50am the clock is ticking, please someone make the right decision for all concerned.  I know you read this page.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2019, 09:05:11 AM
100% great post Memory Man, to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 09:48:04 AM
"we don't want..."
I'm reading this expression in nearly every post, it's wearing a bit thin now; the leaders are there to make most of the people happy most of the time, again, you voted for them. Snowflakes come to mind.

It's 9:30am, the only big decision to be made now, is to finish all games "on the day" going forward, now that would be leadership.


As regards the divisional boards, most do an exemplary job
NA have the hurling well organised, with many non-NA clubs participating
SW had the football well organised, with some non-SW clubs participating
The football was deteriorating in the big smoke, so the county took the SW structures and started all county underage football, to try and improve the level and participation of the lesser division. This vision does not address the root cause of the issue, so the problems will manifest themselves again shortly. The root cause has been discussed many times before.

ps enjoy tonight, it favours fast football for the teams with the skills

pss will it be finished tonight ?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 11, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
peter john take your comments else where.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 10:49:35 AM
wow, who is the moderator ?
PJ's post didn't last long...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2019, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: referee on September 11, 2019, 10:42:11 AM
Who is the whistler tonight, nobody down for it on the Antrim gaa Web page

Could you not do it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 10:49:35 AM
wow, who is the moderator ?
PJ's post didn't last long...

What did he say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: referee on September 11, 2019, 10:55:15 AM
I made a balls of the first match, and you can't get the replay Anyway 😏,there is no one down for it so there maybe a chance that it's not on🤷🏻‍♂️

maybe you can answer something i am curious about:
whistle is blown, signal made to show penalty, most stop playing, and pearsie bangs the ball into the net. The goal stands.
Is this part of a new advantage rule ?
Play to the whistle ?



(https://i1.wp.com/thesaffrongael.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/PORTGLENONE-V-ST-JOHNS-23-copy.jpg?resize=1200%2C600&ssl=1)

ps thanks again for advice on the pictures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 11, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: referee on September 11, 2019, 10:55:15 AM
I made a balls of the first match, and you can't get the replay Anyway 😏,there is no one down for it so there maybe a chance that it's not on🤷🏻‍♂️

Ah now Brendan don't be too hard on yourself anyone can get mixed up in the signal for advantage and blowing the whistle while making the penalty signal, plus I would blame your linesmen, after all they threw you under the bus making your job harder by telling you what was going on, like how could you ignore it when you are told....................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 11:26:45 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 10:49:35 AM
wow, who is the moderator ?
PJ's post didn't last long...

What did he say?

he was describing what he saw towards the end of the first match when pg1 were ahead, bit like a biased match report, but he seemed to break a few rules, so all evidence was wiped...
belfastsaff saw it before the cleansing...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 11, 2019, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: referee on September 11, 2019, 10:42:11 AM
Who is the whistler tonight, nobody down for it on the Antrim gaa Web page

From what I hear it is Snoop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 11, 2019, 02:41:38 PM
Quote from: Peter john on September 11, 2019, 02:27:01 PM
I thought I was being a bit harsh belfast saff, but on reflection I'm not, they're are a dirty shower, their basic skill is intimidation of the highest  degree, thugs when they don't get there own way

Now now Peter John , I feel that you have something you want to get off your chest, let it all out and un-burden yourself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 11, 2019, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: referee on September 11, 2019, 12:57:21 PM
Bogieman how did you guess I was a ref🤔, if I blow my whistle and signal for a penalty I have my hands out wide, and unless I'm an octopus I surely can't have my hand up in the air for advantage 🙋‍♂️,but you obviously know the rulebook, one for the Johnnies and one totally different for the other team

what does it matter what you are doing with your arms, the whistle is the only unquestioned signal, but questioned many times...


ps Most referees seem to blow the whistle and then have a little time to make up their mind why they blew it and raise an arm or two in a certain direction whilst being questioned.

pss back to the ould days, when the gentlemen players couldn't agree on an incident, they "referred" to a neutral, which probably didn't happen that often, not like the dictatorial enforcement these days. I like to think of the hurling that when the honest players hear the whistle, they mostly already know what its for and get on with it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Memory Man on September 11, 2019, 03:17:12 PM
Agh here we go the bould Peterjohn is back, positive as always, I thought you got the message this morning, but obviously not.  Clearly you're the Village Idiot!  Enough said. ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 11, 2019, 06:04:46 PM
Let's all pull together, for the sake of Antrim Football now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 11, 2019, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 11, 2019, 06:04:46 PM
Let's all pull together, for the sake of Antrim Football now.

Let the pulling and hauling begin tonight when poor Snoop has to throw the ball in on the mess left by Toland and the CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 11, 2019, 10:29:44 PM
A rather tame ending to the saga. Fancy LD v Cargin final now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 11, 2019, 10:43:15 PM
Great pace in PG1 attack but size of pitch was an advantage. Some amount of Antrim clubs represented in the stand. A  midweek match was a bonus for the neutral spectator.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2019, 11:21:47 PM
Fair play to both teams for keeping the lid on things and in the end the faster pitch suited us with the bit of pace we have. A decent game...not a classic...and we will need to improve to be competitive with LD. But we are a young team still progressing and tonight will stand us in good stead after faltering so badly when it mattered last year. We didnt fear St John's at any stage, and I hope that dosent come across as disrespectful. With their tradition I'm sure they will be back before long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 11, 2019, 11:54:45 PM
Half time /full time wasn't a bad punt!

NE could have used their 'hurlers' tonight! Can't see PG1 getting past LD, although it's all still very open! Double header semis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 12, 2019, 07:56:30 AM
So it would appear the leaders made the correct decision, most followers happy and everything on schedule.

Superb pitch condition
Excellent viewing westside
Standard viewing eastside
Convenient location
Ample parking
Ice cream

Good evening out with half decent fare on offer for a Wednesday, only downside was no coffee, did I miss the anthem ?  8)

The was some nonsense talked prior to this match...


Ps some odds on the jonnies for the hurling, because they were fair saving themselves for it last night.

Pss anyone a link to where it explains what warrants yellow cards instead of black, and vice versa ?

psss I completely disagree with boys wearing tights, but would make an exception there, maybe even get the old rollerskate knee and elbow pads out... bet a few boys had the knee skin slicking to the bedsheets last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 12, 2019, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: The Memory Man on September 11, 2019, 08:58:18 AM
Ciaran is doing a good job following on from the great work done by Saffron Vision under Collie, Terry and Paul McCann.  There is a lot good about Antrim GAA but there is a lot still needs improved.  But we need more people to take on very important roles lower down the order.  The one big failing I see is the lack of communication in how decisions are made and the reasons why.  Sean does a brilliant job of PRO promoting our games etc and long may it continue but I would like to see greater transparency and communications.  Publish the fixtures plan, venues, times, contingencies.  Don't say they are sent to your club secretary.  Put them on the website for all to see.  Everybody should have known before a ball was kicked at the weekend what the next stage was if any of the four games ended in a replay.  It looks from the outside we're making this up on the hoof.  We have a full time secretary and administrator and now we're advertising for a Financial Controller, and we are becoming more professional.   Lets get our priorities right, give our blue ribbon events (SFC & SHC) the status and recognition they deserve.  Is that too much to ask?

The most galling thing about this is the fact there is a solution in front of them but no-one will grow a pair and make the call.  Ciaran did the right thing with the league and the error with Cargin and the trophy and got widely applauded  for it.  Time for another big decision.  Its now 8.50am the clock is ticking, please someone make the right decision for all concerned.  I know you read this page.......

If only Memory Man if Only............. Great PR piece though " Eventually we all have to accept full and total responsibility for our actions, everything we have done and have not done"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2019, 08:43:30 AM
Because no one in Portglenone knew the venue, we had a completely wrong first assumption that the pitch was very small, and above all else that's what we feared most. We had three people including myself visit the venue and after this we had no concerns at all. In fact we said bring it on. We knew the faster pitch would suit us too.

So, in all sincerity I can hold my own hands up and say my own initial response was over the top and wrong. The venue is superb and should be used more often if possible. And Im not just saying that because we came out on the right side.

St John's did undoubtedly miss a few of their hurlers and if they can manage that issue in house have enough quality to bounce back. And although it's none of my business, there still seems to be disciplinarian issues there to sort out.......which werent there for a few years but seems to be back again!

Hopefully that puts any residual ill will between the clubs behind us and except I have strong connections and a long affinity with Ruairi Og, I'd be wishing St John's and Michael Johnston well at the weekend.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 12, 2019, 09:05:46 AM
Followed the match on twitter last night with the clips and scores coming through more or less in real time.

Couple of cracking goals.

Pitch and floodlights looked great to me.  Spectators looked like they were enjoying themselves.

Much ado about nothing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 12, 2019, 09:13:24 AM
Portglenone played with pace and power and I personally felt were more physical than st johns who tried the usual bullying act.
With forwards like Bam,fitzy, conal Kelly, McBride, mcallin and johnty how can st johns only register 2-6 ( two flukes of goals at that ) - I tell you why the puke defensive football that costs them. They done the exact same last year let the shackles off and play a bit would you!! Fair play to Portglenone will be a very interesting game against LD now. Both teams were the underdogs to come through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2019, 09:17:26 AM
i was going to say before the game that i thought it was a grand venue lol but everyone was that pissed about nothing that it would of been missed amongst all the arguing voices lol

was at it twice last year for the U21's and found it great to watch a match on that terrace side. parking a bit tight but sure was it any different than when casement park was open for a big game? followed it on twitter from Seans great coverage (as usual) and it seemed a great advertisment for our local game.

I do sympathise with the Johnies from a dual club point of view as the hurling on sunday will always be the back of the mind as well incase someone got hurt etc.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 12, 2019, 09:25:44 AM
Regardless of the game, and just to be pedantic.......its 'PPS' and not 'PSS'  :-*

PG1 are a good young team, hungry and very game. The Johnnies have a good spine, some great forwards, but are poor around the periphery and management leave a lot to be desired from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 12, 2019, 09:32:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 12, 2019, 08:43:30 AM
Because no one in Portglenone knew the venue, we had a completely wrong first assumption that the pitch was very small, and above all else that's what we feared most. We had three people including myself visit the venue and after this we had no concerns at all. In fact we said bring it on. We knew the faster pitch would suit us too.

So, in all sincerity I can hold my own hands up and say my own initial response was over the top and wrong. The venue is superb and should be used more often if possible. And Im not just saying that because we came out on the right side.

St John's did undoubtedly miss a few of their hurlers and if they can manage that issue in house have enough quality to bounce back. And although it's none of my business, there still seems to be disciplinarian issues there to sort out.......which werent there for a few years but seems to be back again!

Hopefully that puts any residual ill will between the clubs behind us and except I have strong connections and a long affinity with Ruairi Og, I'd be wishing St John's and Michael Johnston well at the weekend.

Didn't post anything about the pitch before the game because I didn't have a horse in the race as they say, but there is a feeling that 3G pitches are terrible and not geared for good football. The opposite is actually true with the newer pitches. I've been on that one from last night and the surface is unreal, the lights are also top class. I know footballing purists want games played on grass but give me a good 3G over a poor grass any day. Especially teams who want to play fast flowing football a 3G pitch suits them to the ground.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 12, 2019, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2019, 09:17:26 AM


followed it on twitter from Seans great coverage (as usual) and it seemed a great advertisment for our local game.


Agreed, coverage was first class.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2019, 10:10:37 AM
Agreed. I was sitting refreshing regularly.

It has been the most talked about game in years after all lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 12, 2019, 10:34:29 AM
Would you listen to ya, its a school pitch, a 3G school pitch. As for 3/4G, research coming out of Holland showing increased injuries from training on 3/4G pitches as they have poor 'give' in them compared to grass pitches. Not a club in Belfast has match lights with half decent spectator facilities, that's the story here. Embarrassing for them and the CB to take a championship game to a school pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 12, 2019, 11:23:00 AM
Ach I Hope their wee arms and legs aren't really sore today, poor wee craters!

Anyway, DK can you tell me what the difference in a 3G pitch and a 'school' 3G pitch is please? Or are you just using the word 'school' for dramatic effect because you have a problem with these surfaces yourself?

All the coverage and promo of the game, plus comments on the quality and speed of play are very positive reading & viewing from what I can make out.

Great move Antrim County Board. Forward thinking group of people.

Uppa saffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 12, 2019, 11:57:39 AM
A 3G pitch today is in a completely different league than 3G (or 2G) pitches 10 years ago in terms of shock absorption etc. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 12, 2019, 12:02:06 PM
"Great move by the county board"....

For a county chairman to overrule the fixtures committee and switch a championship venue at the last minute to a 3G pitch, which St Johns use as a training pitch was a major insult to Portglenone.

To put St Johns in the position of having to play 3 senior championship games in one week is also out of order.

Lets not pretend that this whole debacle was not a total farce and embarrassment for the county just because the evening passed without incident and most people are happy with the result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 12, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
Is the redevelopment of Corrigan going to have lights ? At least that would give us one Belfast venue with grass and lights..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 12, 2019, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 12, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
Is the redevelopment of Corrigan going to have lights ? At least that would give us one Belfast venue with grass and lights..

Corrigan is not the answer, get your head out of the notion that Belfast is the centre of the world
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 12, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on September 12, 2019, 11:23:00 AM
Ach I Hope their wee arms and legs aren't really sore today, poor wee craters!

Anyway, DK can you tell me what the difference in a 3G pitch and a 'school' 3G pitch is please? Or are you just using the word 'school' for dramatic effect because you have a problem with these surfaces yourself?

All the coverage and promo of the game, plus comments on the quality and speed of play are very positive reading & viewing from what I can make out.

Great move Antrim County Board. Forward thinking group of people.

Uppa saffs

If can't recognise that playing a senior club championship game on a school pitch sums up the infrastructure embarrassment we have in the county, well there is little point in trying, your brain dead mate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 12, 2019, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 12, 2019, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 12, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
Is the redevelopment of Corrigan going to have lights ? At least that would give us one Belfast venue with grass and lights..

Corrigan is not the answer, get your head out of the notion that Belfast is the centre of the world
:) Belfast is definitely not the centre of the world and especially the Antrim GAA world. PG1, Ahoghill and I think Cargin and Ballymena have flood lit pitches and fair play to them. I think LD's light's are knackered so would be good if a Belfast club could, by whatever means, get lights for the betterment of the games in the county - that's all Calm Down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2019, 01:28:20 PM
in truth we really do need more flood lit pitches. its not fair on the clubs like ahoghill whos asked all the time to facilitate games, not just the football but camogie, hurling etc.

if anything they should be commended for the good work they do in organising and running the games rather than looking for negatives to run the county down with all the time.

Belfast badly needs a flood lit pitch, its a no brainer but we can just sit and wait for our county to fund it. it comes from the clubs themselves who, truth be told, can just afford to keep themselves running so flood lights are quite far down the list of needed items.

Weve a set in the pipe line to replace ours we have as they aint up to scratch. but thats down the line, as we have other projects that are further up the list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 12, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
And a scoreboard , as well.
I thought the ref managed the game very well!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2019, 02:28:01 PM
Fair play to county PRO Sean Kelly he is really something else...between twitter Instagram facebook etc he is getting some big viewing numbers. Don't think there could be a better person promoting our games, all for no personal gain. I think he's on year 4 of his term and won't be easily replaced when his time is up. Between Sean and the Saffron Gael team we are truly blessed atm in the promotion of Antrim Gaa.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 12, 2019, 02:40:43 PM
BS you must be quietly confident about your chances now? a real workman performance last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2019, 02:45:30 PM
See the highlights up on the FB page also now. Great coverage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 12, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 12, 2019, 02:45:30 PM
See the highlights up on the FB page also now. Great coverage.

Just seen that ,Casemetst really running through them with no runners following them. Great win for them. St John's number 11 could be in a bit of bother after throwing something at the ref and hitting him when he was sent off. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on September 12, 2019, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 12, 2019, 02:28:01 PM
Fair play to county PRO Sean Kelly he is really something else...between twitter Instagram facebook etc he is getting some big viewing numbers. Don't think there could be a better person promoting our games, all for no personal gain. I think he's on year 4 of his term and won't be easily replaced when his time is up. Between Sean and the Saffron Gael team we are truly blessed atm in the promotion of Antrim Gaa.

Completely agree. Fantastic work being done here. We need to bring in the next generation of PRO's now as an understudy to step in and keep it all going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 12, 2019, 03:36:21 PM
Quote from: cfclg on September 12, 2019, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 12, 2019, 02:28:01 PM
Fair play to county PRO Sean Kelly he is really something else...between twitter Instagram facebook etc he is getting some big viewing numbers. Don't think there could be a better person promoting our games, all for no personal gain. I think he's on year 4 of his term and won't be easily replaced when his time is up. Between Sean and the Saffron Gael team we are truly blessed atm in the promotion of Antrim Gaa.

Completely agree. Fantastic work being done here. We need to bring in the next generation of PRO's now as an understudy to step in and keep it all going.

Agreed 100%, maybe an incentive would be good to keep him there! I'm sure there is only so much 'love for the game' can keep one person going up and down the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 12, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
The problem regarding floodlights at pitches in the city might not be as straight forward as some people think.

A lot of the Belfast clubs may run into issues associated with light pollution, power infrastructure or planning permission.

Its not just about the money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2019, 07:24:31 PM
BelfastSaff if you had asked me that question a week ago I'd have said we would be reasonably optimistic about our chances if we got to meet Lamh Dhearg, (we beat them home and away in the league) but they were very impressive on Sunday night and had that look about them, playing on the edge but under control, and very strong all over the pitch. Mairtin Lynch knows how to time his run and with two Murrays back and flying I'd say they are favourites to win the title in my book.  If we can find 15% - 20% on last night and Lamhs have an off day we could snatch it, but it's probably a year too early for us if I'm being honest. Although I expect last night will bring us on a bit  hopefully anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 12, 2019, 07:53:09 PM

gratias tibi spike; marcus et cornelius, ante multos annos

apologies, i got confused between my scriptum scriptum and super script usage, and won't argue with the post scriptum secundum
I'd rather not be associated with the PPS (syndrome)... seems only young boys have it...

Pss we may look back in future years and wonder why anyone would want to play on the green gold

Ps2 every club should aspire to be dual, with handball during the winter  8)

Ps3 hows this for a thought DK, if you have nothing good to say,, ...

Ps4 threw his gumshield, missed him of(f) course

Ps5 apart from the lack of coffee, I had another complaint, the scoreboard was to(o) bright, but a little knob can fix that

Ps6 there are 2 gaa floodlit pitches in belfast

Ps7 there are no stands at antrim pitches, well, none open yet

Ps6 i salute the pro
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
Not being from the hurling side of the house, but again to highlight the basic issues within the county Kevin Parke is due to referee one of the Intermediate Semi Finals tomorrow and his own club sits in the other semi final? Seen this back in the football 1/4 finals also.... putting the lad in a situation that could blow up in his face.. or maybe we just dont have them MR2 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
BS two minor semis look to be potentially great contests, St James v St BT9ers should be nip & tuck, fancy Galls to edge Cargin however (P Hughes) down to ref so this one could be a disaster for both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2019, 07:39:34 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
Not being from the hurling side of the house, but again to highlight the basic issues within the county Kevin Parke is due to referee one of the Intermediate Semi Finals tomorrow and his own club sits in the other semi final? Seen this back in the football 1/4 finals also.... putting the lad in a situation that could blow up in his face.. or maybe we just dont have them MR2 ?

I take it you and Stillwater have looked at the fixtures for senior hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2019, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
BS two minor semis look to be potentially great contests, St James v St BT9ers should be nip & tuck, fancy Galls to edge Cargin however (P Hughes) down to ref so this one could be a disaster for both teams.

That man must have some serious videos of yer man Anto in compromising positions for the fixtures he is being awarded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2019, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 12, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
The problem regarding floodlights at pitches in the city might not be as straight forward as some people think.

A lot of the Belfast clubs may run into issues associated with light pollution, power infrastructure or planning permission.

Its not just about the money.

yeah thats also a factor to take into account as well with regards to flood lights. When we were getting planning approval for our new 4G pitch you need to do lighting diagrams to show the spread of the lighting in the surrounding area and the potential pollution it will cause.

I did a planning application for a new 4G pitch at a belfast school a few years back and it was beside houses. the amount of objections to the lighting there in the estates was massive as they didnt want it shining in their windows etc. It took a lot of meetings, planning meetings, drawings and lighting consultants to even get it to be considered before it got an approval from the planners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 13, 2019, 09:52:20 AM
As a few posters think its a great concept playing championship football on 3 or 4G.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/staggering-amount-of-injuries-on-4g-pitches-compared-to-grass-1.3641369 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/staggering-amount-of-injuries-on-4g-pitches-compared-to-grass-1.3641369)

https://turfmatters.co.uk/injuries-4g-pitches/ (https://turfmatters.co.uk/injuries-4g-pitches/)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/15/why-3g-pitches-are-being-ripped-up-in-holland-over-health-fears/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/15/why-3g-pitches-are-being-ripped-up-in-holland-over-health-fears/)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 13, 2019, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 13, 2019, 09:52:20 AM
As a few posters think its a great concept playing championship football on 3 or 4G.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/staggering-amount-of-injuries-on-4g-pitches-compared-to-grass-1.3641369 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/staggering-amount-of-injuries-on-4g-pitches-compared-to-grass-1.3641369)

https://turfmatters.co.uk/injuries-4g-pitches/ (https://turfmatters.co.uk/injuries-4g-pitches/)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/15/why-3g-pitches-are-being-ripped-up-in-holland-over-health-fears/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/15/why-3g-pitches-are-being-ripped-up-in-holland-over-health-fears/)


Stop arguing with logic and sensible discussion points DK!!  We're sick of listening to experts around Antrim.   We demand mediocrity and half-assed administration, playing facilities and county senior set ups!   Its our right as one of the worst run counties in Ireland!!    Stick your sensible player welfare warnings where the sun dont shine  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 13, 2019, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 12, 2019, 07:53:09 PM

gratias tibi spike; marcus et cornelius, ante multos annos

apologies, i got confused between my scriptum scriptum and super script usage, and won't argue with the post scriptum secundum
I'd rather not be associated with the PPS (syndrome)... seems only young boys have it...

Pss we may look back in future years and wonder why anyone would want to play on the green gold

Ps2 every club should aspire to be dual, with handball during the winter  8)

Ps3 hows this for a thought DK, if you have nothing good to say,, ...

Ps4 threw his gumshield, missed him of(f) course

Ps5 apart from the lack of coffee, I had another complaint, the scoreboard was to(o) bright, but a little knob can fix that

Ps6 there are 2 gaa floodlit pitches in belfast

Ps7 there are no stands at antrim pitches, well, none open yet

Ps6 i salute the pro

I was sent a clip of this which someone took on their phone, he didn't miss, long suspension coming his way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 13, 2019, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 12, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on September 12, 2019, 11:23:00 AM
Ach I Hope their wee arms and legs aren't really sore today, poor wee craters!

Anyway, DK can you tell me what the difference in a 3G pitch and a 'school' 3G pitch is please? Or are you just using the word 'school' for dramatic effect because you have a problem with these surfaces yourself?

All the coverage and promo of the game, plus comments on the quality and speed of play are very positive reading & viewing from what I can make out.

Great move Antrim County Board. Forward thinking group of people.

Uppa saffs

If can't recognise that playing a senior club championship game on a school pitch sums up the infrastructure embarrassment we have in the county, well there is little point in trying, your brain dead mate.

Still waiting on your definition of School 3G and ordinary 3G 'Mate'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2019, 07:39:34 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
Not being from the hurling side of the house, but again to highlight the basic issues within the county Kevin Parke is due to referee one of the Intermediate Semi Finals tomorrow and his own club sits in the other semi final? Seen this back in the football 1/4 finals also.... putting the lad in a situation that could blow up in his face.. or maybe we just dont have them MR2 ?

I take it you and Stillwater have looked at the fixtures for senior hurling?

Congrats MR2 does this mean that the Senior Final is yours? That doesn't make it right mo chara it just means that the committee doesn't have the refs with enough experience or numbers  .. Totes I'm sure has a plan with big Anto, what happened to Owen Elliott, Duffy Kelly ? Kelly and Duffy reffd both codes did they not..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2019, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2019, 07:39:34 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
Not being from the hurling side of the house, but again to highlight the basic issues within the county Kevin Parke is due to referee one of the Intermediate Semi Finals tomorrow and his own club sits in the other semi final? Seen this back in the football 1/4 finals also.... putting the lad in a situation that could blow up in his face.. or maybe we just dont have them MR2 ?

I take it you and Stillwater have looked at the fixtures for senior hurling?

Congrats MR2 does this mean that the Senior Final is yours? That doesn't make it right mo chara it just means that the committee doesn't have the refs with enough experience or numbers  .. Totes I'm sure has a plan with big Anto, what happened to Owen Elliott, Duffy Kelly ? Kelly and Duffy reffd both codes did they not..

I take it you haven't watched many games this year or the past 3 years? I'm not engaging on this subject while we have championship. I'll certainly chat about it afterwards, it's not fair on clubs or players to have a ref discussing these matters, nor is it fair to slinging mud at officials
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 13, 2019, 02:40:48 PM
MR2, you did a game I was at once, and I was very very disappointed you looked nothing like your picture...  ;)

(https://www.adressa.no/incoming/article1168055.ece5/BINARY/w980/sb01)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2019, 03:36:52 PM
yup. thats exactly how he looked to me lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 05:49:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2019, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2019, 07:39:34 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 13, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
Not being from the hurling side of the house, but again to highlight the basic issues within the county Kevin Parke is due to referee one of the Intermediate Semi Finals tomorrow and his own club sits in the other semi final? Seen this back in the football 1/4 finals also.... putting the lad in a situation that could blow up in his face.. or maybe we just dont have them MR2 ?

I take it you and Stillwater have looked at the fixtures for senior hurling?

Congrats MR2 does this mean that the Senior Final is yours? That doesn't make it right mo chara it just means that the committee doesn't have the refs with enough experience or numbers  .. Totes I'm sure has a plan with big Anto, what happened to Owen Elliott, Duffy Kelly ? Kelly and Duffy reffd both codes did they not..

I take it you haven’t watched many games this year or the past 3 years? I’m not engaging on this subject while we have championship. I’ll certainly chat about it afterwards, it’s not fair on clubs or players to have a ref discussing these matters, nor is it fair to slinging mud at officials

Fair enough MR2 and I genuinely hope your in the Hat for the SHC Final, I have watched many games this year including some of yours,  I'm not slinging mud I know those officials a long time back in the days when they played and things haven't changed much to be fair. Good luck over the weekend have a goodn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 13, 2019, 05:59:59 PM
Good Luck MR2. The most difficult and selfless job in the Gaa is serving your club as referee. The vast majority of us havent got the courage or selflessness to do it, so those who do deserve nothing but praise for keeping our games flowing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 14, 2019, 12:55:50 PM

yes, I agree, well done and good luck to all the referees and officials at the weekend games, i hope you all get what you deserve...  ;)

BS, praise indeed for referees keeping the games happening, you're stretching it a bit far by saying they keep them flowing; the rules are such that they insist on dictatorial enforcement by the referee these days, where context of the game and live play, incidental contact and common sense are unduly overruled by the assessors box ticking exercise to get a good performance score...

Unfortunately, too much is expected for the referee to make a good game of it; 30 other men are on the pitch.

The players and coaches mostly seem to be the ones that cause the problems, which fuel the fans discontent, and fan the gobsh1tes into overdrive. If the players play good honest ball and curb the off the ball nonsense, the game quality and flow would improve; so, its mostly up to the teams to improve the games, not the referees.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 14, 2019, 01:52:42 PM
Shouldnt allow this day to pass without giving a huge shout out to our men of 69, who won Antrims only grade a football All Ireland title by defeating Roscommon. I was seven at the time but can clearly recall listening to the match on the radio, probably thinking this was normal!

Fair play to Andy for pulling this reunion together, I hope you have a fantastic night. And lets hope its not another 50!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 19, 2019, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on September 19, 2019, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2019, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 17, 2019, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
County chairman has now spoke out about it which is a good thing.
The chairman spoke well on the matter and was manly about it.
Cassidy has some neck complaining about OUR county but sure he has his big pay cheque to comfort him. There has never been less Cargin players representing Antrim than since he came to Cargin. Go and work for YOUR county Cassidy as you are doing nothing for OURs >:(

Who urinated on your pastie bap?
Its a pastie wrap these days!  ;D
It just doesn't sit well with me when a hired hand from another county takes to twitter to lambast our county chairman who seems to me from his work at st enda's and the county to be a hard working volunteer - he admitted it was a mistake and has given his word it won't happen again - Cassidy is just trying to whip up the bad feeling against the county in Cargin for his own ends - its all about him

Sitting here having lunch reading the Irish News on line and looks like Cassidy has put a dent in your rant. Was thinking of taking a scoot up to see this game. Heard last years was a classic.
Where you expecting him to admit it? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2019, 08:27:36 PM
LD and Cargin for the senior final ?
What's the betting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2019, 06:57:19 PM
Portglenone penalty last kick of game to draw. Sounded exciting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 21, 2019, 08:28:12 PM
Smashing game - LD will be kicking themselves - not sure whether they eased up or PG1 were really good at the end
Wonder where the replay will be !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2019, 09:05:11 PM
 ;D here we go again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 21, 2019, 09:07:11 PM
Will this be another midweek game in Colaiste Feirste?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2019, 02:32:13 AM
I'd say Corrigan next Saturday but who knows. LD a seasoned team, a good outfit, well coached and know what theyre about....but we showed them far too much respect today, stood off them and allowed them to dictate the pace of the game. We played very average,  still scored 3 -10, but we are a much better team than what we showed today. If we bring our A game to the replay we can win this because tbh we wuz very middin today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2019, 07:25:56 PM
Cargin through - looked to be easy enough I think.

Intermediate final moneyglass v aldergrove and junior Lisburn v ardoyne
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 23, 2019, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2019, 02:32:13 AM
I'd say Corrigan next Saturday but who knows. LD a seasoned team, a good outfit, well coached and know what theyre about....but we showed them far too much respect today, stood off them and allowed them to dictate the pace of the game. We played very average,  still scored 3 -10, but we are a much better team than what we showed today. If we bring our A game to the replay we can win this because tbh we wuz very middin today!

LD won that game about 4 times, how they lost it is a mystery. I can't even put it down to Casements Character as I thought it was LD thinking they had the job done. Casements will be very disappointed with their performance for sure, especially when you consider how they approached both St Johns games. On another note the ref was so poor. McKeevers catch that led to the gl, as obvious a foul as you will see, using your knee to fetch, planting it on a mans back for leverage is a foul foul foul every time. Fitzsimmons hit on McKeever, clear yellow. Mc Keever hadn't the ball, he had off loaded it. Such basics he totally unaware of.
St Galls V Cargin, a totally dominant display from Cargin. Only winning by five will be the question being asked. Grt to see Kevin O Boyle back playing again and hopefully back in an Antrim jersey. They looked v organised and physical. St Galls didn't turn up or weren't allowed to turn up. Hard to see where they go from here. There more senior players were not at the races. The ref did a good job, consistent and blew the tackles that were needed.

BTW when is the replay?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2019, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 23, 2019, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2019, 02:32:13 AM
I'd say Corrigan next Saturday but who knows. LD a seasoned team, a good outfit, well coached and know what theyre about....but we showed them far too much respect today, stood off them and allowed them to dictate the pace of the game. We played very average,  still scored 3 -10, but we are a much better team than what we showed today. If we bring our A game to the replay we can win this because tbh we wuz very middin today!

LD won that game about 4 times, how they lost it is a mystery. I can't even put it down to Casements Character as I thought it was LD thinking they had the job done. Casements will be very disappointed with their performance for sure, especially when you consider how they approached both St Johns games. On another note the ref was so poor. McKeevers catch that led to the gl, as obvious a foul as you will see, using your knee to fetch, planting it on a mans back for leverage is a foul foul foul every time. Fitzsimmons hit on McKeever, clear yellow. Mc Keever hadn't the ball, he had off loaded it. Such basics he totally unaware of.
St Galls V Cargin, a totally dominant display from Cargin. Only winning by five will be the question being asked. Grt to see Kevin O Boyle back playing again and hopefully back in an Antrim jersey. They looked v organised and physical. St Galls didn't turn up or weren't allowed to turn up. Hard to see where they go from here. There more senior players were not at the races. The ref did a good job, consistent and blew the tackles that were needed.

BTW when is the replay?

How have you got on this year in your championship games that you've reffed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 23, 2019, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 23, 2019, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2019, 02:32:13 AM
I'd say Corrigan next Saturday but who knows. LD a seasoned team, a good outfit, well coached and know what theyre about....but we showed them far too much respect today, stood off them and allowed them to dictate the pace of the game. We played very average,  still scored 3 -10, but we are a much better team than what we showed today. If we bring our A game to the replay we can win this because tbh we wuz very middin today!

LD won that game about 4 times, how they lost it is a mystery. I can't even put it down to Casements Character as I thought it was LD thinking they had the job done. Casements will be very disappointed with their performance for sure, especially when you consider how they approached both St Johns games. On another note the ref was so poor. McKeevers catch that led to the gl, as obvious a foul as you will see, using your knee to fetch, planting it on a mans back for leverage is a foul foul foul every time. Fitzsimmons hit on McKeever, clear yellow. Mc Keever hadn't the ball, he had off loaded it. Such basics he totally unaware of.
St Galls V Cargin, a totally dominant display from Cargin. Only winning by five will be the question being asked. Grt to see Kevin O Boyle back playing again and hopefully back in an Antrim jersey. They looked v organised and physical. St Galls didn't turn up or weren't allowed to turn up. Hard to see where they go from here. There more senior players were not at the races. The ref did a good job, consistent and blew the tackles that were needed.

BTW when is the replay?

thursday in ahoghill 7.45
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2019, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 23, 2019, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 23, 2019, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2019, 02:32:13 AM
I'd say Corrigan next Saturday but who knows. LD a seasoned team, a good outfit, well coached and know what theyre about....but we showed them far too much respect today, stood off them and allowed them to dictate the pace of the game. We played very average,  still scored 3 -10, but we are a much better team than what we showed today. If we bring our A game to the replay we can win this because tbh we wuz very middin today!

LD won that game about 4 times, how they lost it is a mystery. I can't even put it down to Casements Character as I thought it was LD thinking they had the job done. Casements will be very disappointed with their performance for sure, especially when you consider how they approached both St Johns games. On another note the ref was so poor. McKeevers catch that led to the gl, as obvious a foul as you will see, using your knee to fetch, planting it on a mans back for leverage is a foul foul foul every time. Fitzsimmons hit on McKeever, clear yellow. Mc Keever hadn't the ball, he had off loaded it. Such basics he totally unaware of.
St Galls V Cargin, a totally dominant display from Cargin. Only winning by five will be the question being asked. Grt to see Kevin O Boyle back playing again and hopefully back in an Antrim jersey. They looked v organised and physical. St Galls didn't turn up or weren't allowed to turn up. Hard to see where they go from here. There more senior players were not at the races. The ref did a good job, consistent and blew the tackles that were needed.

BTW when is the replay?

thursday in ahoghill 7.45
that was the plan the last time PG1 drew then st johns complained and it went to Colaiste Feirste - what's different this time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 23, 2019, 04:20:10 PM
Hmmmmm the opposition is for a start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2019, 08:20:24 PM
Neither Ahoghill or Colaiste Fierste!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2019, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2019, 08:20:24 PM
Neither Ahoghill or Colaiste Fierste!

Where??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2019, 08:36:04 PM
At this exact minute county website says Ahoghill 7.45pm. But that arrangement didnt stick last time so good chance it wont be there on Thursday. Thats my guess anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 23, 2019, 08:50:18 PM
No doubt the city clubs will continue to cry about playing consecutive games up the country.  I was hoping to see Colaiste Feirste as last reports were positive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2019, 09:10:19 PM
Just do whatever is fair. As Memory Man correctly stated, there needs to be integrity in sport or its worthless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Strong rumours floating around that LD want to take this to the Dub under lights.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2019, 10:07:20 PM
Does Chris Kerr not play for St Galls anymore ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 23, 2019, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 23, 2019, 10:07:20 PM
Does Chris Kerr not play for St Galls anymore ?

I think he's long term injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on September 23, 2019, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 23, 2019, 10:07:20 PM
Does Chris Kerr not play for St Galls anymore ?

Injured. I believe he done his cruciate. I thought it was a strange decision to bring back Gallagher.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 24, 2019, 09:13:26 AM
I am hearing rumours that the LD vs PG1 replay on Thursday has been switched to The Dub, despite having been announced only yesterday as being at Ahoghill?

Can anyone confirm? Another shambles if true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 24, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
Confirmed Thursday 8pm, the Dub
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2019, 09:24:01 AM
Correct. Dub Pavillion - Throw In 8pm Thursday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Strong rumours floating around that LD want to take this to the Dub under lights.

I guess LD got what they wanted.

Tail wagging the Dog again. Boys do we badly need a county ground, and not St Johns up graded with shite car parking facilities
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2019, 09:43:30 AM
Is the guy in charge of the Ahoghill Sweet shop in charge of the re-fixes? :)
Seems like that is first option before other pitches availability is checked out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2019, 09:48:41 AM
Casements have no problem with this, fair play dictated that the replay would be at a South Antrim venue. Nothing wrong with this venue...good pitch, good lights, good seating accomodation.
Hopefully we play to our full potential...if we bring our A game this will be another cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 24, 2019, 09:51:22 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Strong rumours floating around that LD want to take this to the Dub under lights.

I guess LD got what they wanted.

Tail wagging the Dog again. Boys do we badly need a county ground, and not St Johns up graded with shite car parking facilities

Remind me again about how much car parking there was in the old Casement or in the new one if it ever happens or any other county ground ffs. St John's will do perfectly well for Div 3 or 4 NL games. If you think that a 35,000 seater Casement will be opened for club games or NL games, then you're deluded. Maybe for the first year of so but after that, forget about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: drillsergeant on September 24, 2019, 11:28:19 AM
Former Antrim star and highly regarded coach Kevin Madden is to join Tyrone's backroom team.

Confirming Madden's arrival on the Tyrone scene, manager Mickey Harte said: "He's joining our backroom team for the 2020 season and we're all very pleased to have him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: drillsergeant on September 24, 2019, 11:28:19 AM
Former Antrim star and highly regarded coach Kevin Madden is to join Tyrone's backroom team.

Confirming Madden's arrival on the Tyrone scene, manager Mickey Harte said: "He's joining our backroom team for the 2020 season and we're all very pleased to have him.

Fair play Kevin. A gent and one of the better managers to be involved with from a refereeing position!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2019, 01:15:35 PM
Good luck to Kevin - a big appointment and if he gets well paid for it, good luck with that too.....if he dosent take it someone else will!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
would 5/6 years at Creggan and not delivering a Championship with a talented squad not be seen as failure? Maybe he did a good interview
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
would 5/6 years at Creggan and not delivering a Championship with a talented squad not be seen as failure? Maybe he did a good interview

The quick answer is 'Yes' - no championship success in over 10 years in management with a number of clubs.   But this is Antrim where regression is interpreted as success, and for a bonus, get to pay for that regression.

The Tyrone supporters don't appear happy that KM is replacing Stephen O'Neill -  Owen Mulligan said 'we have just replaced Messi with Ian Dowie'  :) 

Think its safe to say Tyrone players will be booking their summer holidays early this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2019, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
would 5/6 years at Creggan and not delivering a Championship with a talented squad not be seen as failure? Maybe he did a good interview

The quick answer is 'Yes' - no championship success in over 10 years in management with a number of clubs.   But this is Antrim where regression is interpreted as success, and for a bonus, get to pay for that regression.

The Tyrone supporters don't appear happy that KM is replacing Stephen O'Neill -  Owen Mulligan said 'we have just replaced Messi with Ian Dowie'  :) 

Think its safe to say Tyrone players will be booking their summer holidays early this year.

To be fair about it, Maddens coaching experience would be considerable in comparison to O'Neills, which was absolutely zero. Mulligan's comment has nothing whatsoever to do with coaching.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 03:27:46 PM
Mulligan's comment has nothing whatsoever to do with coaching.
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How do you know that? Mulligan was simply replying to the news of the replacement.

Plenty of journeymen coaches about, flag carriers and waterboys - not too many Stephen O'Neills......but there is one more Ian Dowie now!  :P

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2019, 03:30:19 PM
Maybe Kevin Madden is a better coach than Stevie the great. He's definitely much more experienced and I'd take anything Mulligan has to say with a large pinch of salt. Tyrone a top four county atm, Kevin and Hartes challenge is to maintain or better that, and with Galway Cork and Donegal breathing down their neck, thats not a given.

No Peter John, KM has been too busy elsewhere to commit anything back to the club...I'd say that boat has well and truly sailed long ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 03:52:35 PM
Perhaps BS, but the majority of players from Creggan don't believe he's a great coach, and The Loup fellas have a lot of choice words about his abilities.  Harte has also got rid of Peter Donnelly who most certainly is a better and more experienced coach than KM so other than freshening things up its hard to see why Harte would deliberately weaken his backroom team  - unless the guys didn't want to work with Harte anymore and he needed a Yes man.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2019, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2019, 03:30:19 PM
Maybe Kevin Madden is a better coach than Stevie the great. He's definitely much more experienced and I'd take anything Mulligan has to say with a large pinch of salt. Tyrone a top four county atm, Kevin and Hartes challenge is to maintain or better that, and with Galway Cork and Donegal breathing down their neck, thats not a given.

No Peter John, KM has been too busy elsewhere to commit anything back to the club...I'd say that boat has well and truly sailed long ago.

always wondered if he had held a role at his own club over the years.

Each to their own, some people would rather be paid to coach another club than give up that time for free for their own club. Its not a criticism of the man but its just the way the game is. Ive been doing it for 8 years in a row now in my own club and i wouldnt be interested in doing it for money. you just dont have that emotional connection to another club when involved with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on September 24, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2019, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2019, 03:30:19 PM
Maybe Kevin Madden is a better coach than Stevie the great. He's definitely much more experienced and I'd take anything Mulligan has to say with a large pinch of salt. Tyrone a top four county atm, Kevin and Hartes challenge is to maintain or better that, and with Galway Cork and Donegal breathing down their neck, thats not a given.

No Peter John, KM has been too busy elsewhere to commit anything back to the club...I'd say that boat has well and truly sailed long ago.

always wondered if he had held a role at his own club over the years.

Each to their own, some people would rather be paid to coach another club than give up that time for free for their own club. Its not a criticism of the man but its just the way the game is. Ive been doing it for 8 years in a row now in my own club and i wouldnt be interested in doing it for money. you just dont have that emotional connection to another club when involved with it.

He coaches underage in Moneyglass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
Theres different ways to look at this I think and maybe theres no right or wrong answer. I never once went looking for a club job but invitations and offers came and you decide at the time what your response would be. I did 5 years in Derry with various clubs and if i had wanted probably could still be doing " the circuit". But thats what it is, and ultimately you become a mercenary and either do it for the money or are percieved to be doing it for the money. In any event, i dont think anyone in the association has proper credit until they at the very least do a reasonable voluntary stint within your own club. Kevin may still do that sometime in the future, who knows, hes still young enough.

Teams I've managed have done well enough...lost a couple of county senior finals....but my biggest thrill was winning a reserve plate and then a reserve championship with Portglenone, a few of my sons and their mates all coming through together, and seeing them progress into the seniors gives you some feeling of acomplishment that would be hard to replicate with an outside club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 04:35:13 PM
You are right on the account that you couldn't replicate winning something with another club other than your own.

Your mention of doing 'the circuit' is precisely why these mercenary coaches and managers are largely disparaged and rightly so IMO. Its not for the love of the game, its for the love of their lifestyles and an ego trip.

Unfortunately there appears no way to stop it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 07:04:33 PM
God there's some hateful cnuts on this board.

S/W men complaining about S/W managers doing well! Complaining about managers being paid and I can think of only a few who haven't paid, either currently or in the past, and the same ones cheering on their team while a 'mercenary' gets looked after.

Same posters looking the county board to spend big money on outside managers or inside managers to improve our team! Catch yourself on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 07:12:31 PM
To be fair MR2, we've all seen your refereeing performances and no one on this board gets called called a hateful cnut more than you.  Kudos to a man who knows one when he sees one. Respect bro
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 07:15:01 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 07:12:31 PM
To be fair MR2, we've all seen your refereeing performances and no one on this board gets called called a hateful cnut more than you.  Kudos to a man who knows one when he sees one. Respect bro

You're getting confused again, stick to the topic. If you keep tripping yourself up then step away. Lot of hate in you. You must be great craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 07:20:13 PM
If i reach the levels of hate that you feel when you read who gets to referee the big matches you be sure to let me know.  Thanks for looking out for me. Peace xx
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 07:20:13 PM
If i reach the levels of hate that you feel when you read who gets to referee the big matches you be sure to let me know.  Thanks for looking out for me. Peace xx

Again your bitterness is at another level. Very sad. I pity you and ones that have to stick your bile
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 07:32:48 PM
From a man who resorts to personal comments on most his posts, ill take that as a compliment.   Thank you Preacher. Amen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 07:32:48 PM
From a man who resorts to personal comments on most his posts, ill take that as a compliment.   Thank you Preacher. Amen.

You've attacked me, I never brought you into but hey, carry on with whatever floats your boat. Who else can you verbally attack while being a gutless keyboard warrior ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2019, 11:23:36 PM
Anytime I've spoken to KM he's been an absolute gent. Does anybody know the reason why he hasn't yet coached his own club? Maybe he doesn't feel he can be a prophet in his own land. Maybe he thinks he's given enough time to PG1 and wants to learn his trade elsewhere. Who knows. One thing I do know is that it's his choice what he does.

Good luck on Saturday MR2, but please keep up with play  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 25, 2019, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
Theres different ways to look at this I think and maybe theres no right or wrong answer. I never once went looking for a club job but invitations and offers came and you decide at the time what your response would be. I did 5 years in Derry with various clubs and if i had wanted probably could still be doing " the circuit". But thats what it is, and ultimately you become a mercenary and either do it for the money or are percieved to be doing it for the money. In any event, i dont think anyone in the association has proper credit until they at the very least do a reasonable voluntary stint within your own club. Kevin may still do that sometime in the future, who knows, hes still young enough.

Teams I've managed have done well enough...lost a couple of county senior finals....but my biggest thrill was winning a reserve plate and then a reserve championship with Portglenone, a few of my sons and their mates all coming through together, and seeing them progress into the seniors gives you some feeling of acomplishment that would be hard to replicate with an outside club.

couldnt agree more BS.

Ive seen Feile winning teams with the club and the lads got all the way to the All Ireland Final that year. I now see these kids pulling on the senior shirt in this weekends County Final and i couldnt be more happy for them all. youve seen them progress from a child to a man and representing the club at the top level.

I seen our Junior Camogiers win a shield. its the competition no one wants to be in or win but these girls won it 6 years ago and celebrated it like a championship. why? because they had never won anything in their career up to that point.

its that sort of pride you dont get without being paid for it. its seeing progression in the youth to senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 25, 2019, 09:27:37 AM
Picking up on an earlier point I'd say St Galls need to let a few older lads retire with their massive haul of medals and do a bit of rebuilding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:34:59 AM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.

Milltown why would you be getting involved at all on any discussion, everyone knows who you are and surely you are not making your job in the middle of the field any easier?? Very naive of you to start picking fights on here when you and your colleagues are easy picking for criticism, seems like an ego trip to me, maybe it is true that some refs only ref to hog the spotlight................just a thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2019, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 25, 2019, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 24, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
Theres different ways to look at this I think and maybe theres no right or wrong answer. I never once went looking for a club job but invitations and offers came and you decide at the time what your response would be. I did 5 years in Derry with various clubs and if i had wanted probably could still be doing " the circuit". But thats what it is, and ultimately you become a mercenary and either do it for the money or are percieved to be doing it for the money. In any event, i dont think anyone in the association has proper credit until they at the very least do a reasonable voluntary stint within your own club. Kevin may still do that sometime in the future, who knows, hes still young enough.

Teams I've managed have done well enough...lost a couple of county senior finals....but my biggest thrill was winning a reserve plate and then a reserve championship with Portglenone, a few of my sons and their mates all coming through together, and seeing them progress into the seniors gives you some feeling of acomplishment that would be hard to replicate with an outside club.

couldnt agree more BS.

Ive seen Feile winning teams with the club and the lads got all the way to the All Ireland Final that year. I now see these kids pulling on the senior shirt in this weekends County Final and i couldnt be more happy for them all. youve seen them progress from a child to a man and representing the club at the top level.

I seen our Junior Camogiers win a shield. its the competition no one wants to be in or win but these girls won it 6 years ago and celebrated it like a championship. why? because they had never won anything in their career up to that point.

its that sort of pride you dont get without being paid for it. its seeing progression in the youth to senior level.

In a nutshell, thats it. Good man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:34:59 AM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.

Milltown why would you be getting involved at all on any discussion, everyone knows who you are and surely you are not making your job in the middle of the field any easier?? Very naive of you to start picking fights on here when you and your colleagues are easy picking for criticism, seems like an ego trip to me, maybe it is true that some refs only ref to hog the spotlight................just a thought

Easy pickings? ego trip? Honestly listen to yourself, me discussing anything on here won't change peoples views on refereeing or referees. I've never had a view that someone suddenly stops playing and takes up refereeing to get abuse from the crowd, online trolls or players and management to have a ego trip or hog the limelight! And if they do then its very strange.. There is certainly no fun in listening to grown men hurl abuse from behind the wire. the Ref is un biased, regardless of what I've heard recently on here, and if his judgement is wrong or makes a mistake, hey then he's human also, he'll finish that game and think about just like a player/supporter and manager, could he have been better..

We don't have enough ref's and would love more ex players to get involved, to keep ref's involved it has to be a recgonised that they leave becaause they get abuse and can't be bothered with it, but some obviously stay on cause they like getting that abuse :-\ (shakes head)

As a players suppoter, manager and ref I still would be at odds with some calls made in games, as we all have view on it, when the whistle goes and he gives his reasons then step away and accept it..

I can't change views on this and don't intend to, I'd hope to stay on and continue to be involved in refereeing, as for must parts its a great way to watch our sports, but if I feel that its getting to a point that its not worth the effort then someone else on here could make a contribution to refereeing.

On another note, refereeing a kids under 10 tournament and a senior final is no different to the man in the middle TBH..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:34:59 AM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.

Milltown why would you be getting involved at all on any discussion, everyone knows who you are and surely you are not making your job in the middle of the field any easier?? Very naive of you to start picking fights on here when you and your colleagues are easy picking for criticism, seems like an ego trip to me, maybe it is true that some refs only ref to hog the spotlight................just a thought

Easy pickings? ego trip? Honestly listen to yourself, me discussing anything on here won't change peoples views on refereeing or referees. I've never had a view that someone suddenly stops playing and takes up refereeing to get abuse from the crowd, online trolls or players and management to have a ego trip or hog the limelight! And if they do then its very strange.. There is certainly no fun in listening to grown men hurl abuse from behind the wire. the Ref is un biased, regardless of what I've heard recently on here, and if his judgement is wrong or makes a mistake, hey then he's human also, he'll finish that game and think about just like a player/supporter and manager, could he have been better..

We don't have enough ref's and would love more ex players to get involved, to keep ref's involved it has to be a recgonised that they leave becaause they get abuse and can't be bothered with it, but some obviously stay on cause they like getting that abuse :-\ (shakes head)

As a players suppoter, manager and ref I still would be at odds with some calls made in games, as we all have view on it, when the whistle goes and he gives his reasons then step away and accept it..

I can't change views on this and don't intend to, I'd hope to stay on and continue to be involved in refereeing, as for must parts its a great way to watch our sports, but if I feel that its getting to a point that its not worth the effort then someone else on here could make a contribution to refereeing.

On another note, refereeing a kids under 10 tournament and a senior final is no different to the man in the middle TBH..

You seem to be missing my point, I did not suggest that you took up refereeing because you like getting abuse (but hey who knows what floats your boat), what I was saying is that you are naive to come on here and start picking fights with other contributors from other clubs. As you will be aware it does not take a lot for a ref to be accused of being biased and you getting involved in arguments with other clubs members on here may come back to bite you on the back side as it is clear that everyone knows who you are.

For me you are probably one of the most physically fit refs in the county but your rise through to county semi finals seems to be amazing in such a short space of time.................keep up the good work and keep carrying the right guy's kit bag :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:34:59 AM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.

Milltown why would you be getting involved at all on any discussion, everyone knows who you are and surely you are not making your job in the middle of the field any easier?? Very naive of you to start picking fights on here when you and your colleagues are easy picking for criticism, seems like an ego trip to me, maybe it is true that some refs only ref to hog the spotlight................just a thought

Easy pickings? ego trip? Honestly listen to yourself, me discussing anything on here won't change peoples views on refereeing or referees. I've never had a view that someone suddenly stops playing and takes up refereeing to get abuse from the crowd, online trolls or players and management to have a ego trip or hog the limelight! And if they do then its very strange.. There is certainly no fun in listening to grown men hurl abuse from behind the wire. the Ref is un biased, regardless of what I've heard recently on here, and if his judgement is wrong or makes a mistake, hey then he's human also, he'll finish that game and think about just like a player/supporter and manager, could he have been better..

We don't have enough ref's and would love more ex players to get involved, to keep ref's involved it has to be a recgonised that they leave becaause they get abuse and can't be bothered with it, but some obviously stay on cause they like getting that abuse :-\ (shakes head)

As a players suppoter, manager and ref I still would be at odds with some calls made in games, as we all have view on it, when the whistle goes and he gives his reasons then step away and accept it..

I can't change views on this and don't intend to, I'd hope to stay on and continue to be involved in refereeing, as for must parts its a great way to watch our sports, but if I feel that its getting to a point that its not worth the effort then someone else on here could make a contribution to refereeing.

On another note, refereeing a kids under 10 tournament and a senior final is no different to the man in the middle TBH..

You seem to be missing my point, I did not suggest that you took up refereeing because you like getting abuse (but hey who knows what floats your boat), what I was saying is that you are naive to come on here and start picking fights with other contributors from other clubs. As you will be aware it does not take a lot for a ref to be accused of being biased and you getting involved in arguments with other clubs members on here may come back to bite you on the back side as it is clear that everyone knows who you are.

For me you are probably one of the most physically fit refs in the county but your rise through to county semi finals seems to be amazing in such a short space of time.................keep up the good work and keep carrying the right guy's kit bag :o :o

Rise quickly lol.. Ive been refereeing over 11 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:34:59 AM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.

Milltown why would you be getting involved at all on any discussion, everyone knows who you are and surely you are not making your job in the middle of the field any easier?? Very naive of you to start picking fights on here when you and your colleagues are easy picking for criticism, seems like an ego trip to me, maybe it is true that some refs only ref to hog the spotlight................just a thought

Easy pickings? ego trip? Honestly listen to yourself, me discussing anything on here won't change peoples views on refereeing or referees. I've never had a view that someone suddenly stops playing and takes up refereeing to get abuse from the crowd, online trolls or players and management to have a ego trip or hog the limelight! And if they do then its very strange.. There is certainly no fun in listening to grown men hurl abuse from behind the wire. the Ref is un biased, regardless of what I've heard recently on here, and if his judgement is wrong or makes a mistake, hey then he's human also, he'll finish that game and think about just like a player/supporter and manager, could he have been better..

We don't have enough ref's and would love more ex players to get involved, to keep ref's involved it has to be a recgonised that they leave becaause they get abuse and can't be bothered with it, but some obviously stay on cause they like getting that abuse :-\ (shakes head)

As a players suppoter, manager and ref I still would be at odds with some calls made in games, as we all have view on it, when the whistle goes and he gives his reasons then step away and accept it..

I can't change views on this and don't intend to, I'd hope to stay on and continue to be involved in refereeing, as for must parts its a great way to watch our sports, but if I feel that its getting to a point that its not worth the effort then someone else on here could make a contribution to refereeing.

On another note, refereeing a kids under 10 tournament and a senior final is no different to the man in the middle TBH..

You seem to be missing my point, I did not suggest that you took up refereeing because you like getting abuse (but hey who knows what floats your boat), what I was saying is that you are naive to come on here and start picking fights with other contributors from other clubs. As you will be aware it does not take a lot for a ref to be accused of being biased and you getting involved in arguments with other clubs members on here may come back to bite you on the back side as it is clear that everyone knows who you are.

For me you are probably one of the most physically fit refs in the county but your rise through to county semi finals seems to be amazing in such a short space of time.................keep up the good work and keep carrying the right guy's kit bag :o :o

Rise quickly lol.. Ive been refereeing over 11 years

Forgive me, relatively quick rise over the last few years in the quality of game you are getting

Again, however I note that you have failed to deal with the main point of my post, but hey you keep picking you easy points to score off.

BTW I am a big fan of refs as my dad is one (albeit coming to the end of his time at it), my point was why expose yourself on here as people will have enough of a stick to beat you with be they fair or not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 12:32:17 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:34:59 AM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 24, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I hate to point out the obvious but you cant verbally attack someone while being a gutless keyboard warrior. 2 different mediums you see Milltown.  That is your name isnt it? Milltown. Unusual surname though - french?    Just pulling your leg big guy.

Anywho,   Any chance you could get back on trend with some Antrim football topics rather than fill these pages with commentary of  your concern for my wellbeing and diminishing mental health?

Refereeing performances of the 2 semi finals? Favourites to win championship? What went wrong with st galls?

As I said before unfair to discuss from my perspective on club championship games. I'll take up questions after the under 21 championship.

We can discuss then.

Milltown why would you be getting involved at all on any discussion, everyone knows who you are and surely you are not making your job in the middle of the field any easier?? Very naive of you to start picking fights on here when you and your colleagues are easy picking for criticism, seems like an ego trip to me, maybe it is true that some refs only ref to hog the spotlight................just a thought

Easy pickings? ego trip? Honestly listen to yourself, me discussing anything on here won't change peoples views on refereeing or referees. I've never had a view that someone suddenly stops playing and takes up refereeing to get abuse from the crowd, online trolls or players and management to have a ego trip or hog the limelight! And if they do then its very strange.. There is certainly no fun in listening to grown men hurl abuse from behind the wire. the Ref is un biased, regardless of what I've heard recently on here, and if his judgement is wrong or makes a mistake, hey then he's human also, he'll finish that game and think about just like a player/supporter and manager, could he have been better..

We don't have enough ref's and would love more ex players to get involved, to keep ref's involved it has to be a recgonised that they leave becaause they get abuse and can't be bothered with it, but some obviously stay on cause they like getting that abuse :-\ (shakes head)

As a players suppoter, manager and ref I still would be at odds with some calls made in games, as we all have view on it, when the whistle goes and he gives his reasons then step away and accept it..

I can't change views on this and don't intend to, I'd hope to stay on and continue to be involved in refereeing, as for must parts its a great way to watch our sports, but if I feel that its getting to a point that its not worth the effort then someone else on here could make a contribution to refereeing.

On another note, refereeing a kids under 10 tournament and a senior final is no different to the man in the middle TBH..

You seem to be missing my point, I did not suggest that you took up refereeing because you like getting abuse (but hey who knows what floats your boat), what I was saying is that you are naive to come on here and start picking fights with other contributors from other clubs. As you will be aware it does not take a lot for a ref to be accused of being biased and you getting involved in arguments with other clubs members on here may come back to bite you on the back side as it is clear that everyone knows who you are.

For me you are probably one of the most physically fit refs in the county but your rise through to county semi finals seems to be amazing in such a short space of time.................keep up the good work and keep carrying the right guy's kit bag :o :o

Rise quickly lol.. Ive been refereeing over 11 years

Forgive me, relatively quick rise over the last few years in the quality of game you are getting

Again, however I note that you have failed to deal with the main point of my post, but hey you keep picking you easy points to score off.

BTW I am a big fan of refs as my dad is one (albeit coming to the end of his time at it), my point was why expose yourself on here as people will have enough of a stick to beat you with be they fair or not

Coming on here and exposing myself (oh matron) as you put it to get more abuse is not the reason, other people on this site in the past highlighted who I am, I didn't so hopefully that clears that up. I'm not worried too much tbh as how I conduct myself outside of this fourm is not what you read. My banter to other clubs is just that, anyone reading to much into that is very easily lead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on September 25, 2019, 01:30:53 PM
For what it's worth - and this would be a viewpoint of many in my own club - MR2 is one of the top guys with the whistle in Antrim in both codes. Communicates well with the players and is very fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 25, 2019, 08:10:02 PM
 
good man, there needs to be more positivity towards the referees, the good ones anyways

the club should take the responsibility to sort out the gabshites, they know who they are...

mr2, i get a bit bored with the personal attacks after a while
don't bite, but if you must, and go past two 1to1 posts, move it to another thread, I'll start one as you as the most recent common denominator - and that is not an accusation of wrongdoing


pps it's not hard to work out the click; remove the ulster ones, well the sw ones, and as well as the refs, look at the linesmen...

ps2 don't forget big .- -. - ---

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:02:35 PM
I have no problem with MR2 at all, I was trying to proffer him a little support and discourage him from bringing any further criticism his way but alas he appears to not wish to accept such rational advice

Good luck MR2 with the rest of the season and I hope that in the future you can separate advice from criticism
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2019, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 09:02:35 PM
I have no problem with MR2 at all, I was trying to proffer him a little support and discourage him from bringing any further criticism his way but alas he appears to not wish to accept such rational advice

Good luck MR2 with the rest of the season and I hope that in the future you can separate advice from criticism

You're 'advice' from your first 2 posts you put up were directed towards a ref. Advice or not it seems your rational on advice is a bit skewed  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 25, 2019, 10:04:46 PM
Apologies if an observation was not welcomed, I didn't think I would have to be a referee to point out something which I thought was pretty obvious

Anyway as I said good luck this weekend and I hope you do my club a favour this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 25, 2019, 11:04:07 PM
give yourselve the benefit of the doubt, and remain silent...  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2019, 06:58:57 AM
MR2 you mentioned that the county presently doesn't have enough Refs, where did Hassan, Elliott Kelly, Duffy and I'm sure there are others go within Antrim? Most of the lads are still refereeing in other counties at the minute as I have watched games in Derry & Down and University Games where those lads are still in the middle, still fit and going well from what I've seen?  Elliott referred the Derry Senior championship last week!  Why are they not refn in Antrim anymore ? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2019, 07:06:14 AM
Bannside great to see the club organising the Tournament in memory of Paul Mc Keever, what a fantastic pic in todays Irish News (Online) of him,  the one with the cubs around him celebrating, reminds all of us I'm sure of days like those we all had and experienced, GAA in its purest and unspoilt form. Congrats   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2019, 07:54:21 AM
Is bannside not a ballymena man? Only a blow in to Portglenone  ;)
Or am I confusing him with someone else??

Great to see a tournament dedicated to Paul McKeever. Absolutely tragic times for the family and club and hopefully this is an annual event and gives them something to keep his name alive for many years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2019, 08:44:48 AM
Thanks for those kind sentiments, and if you excuse the play on words lol, whatwillbwillb tonight with our replay against LD....because no matter what happens with our seniors - there is a far bigger emphasis in our club atm with our juvenile section.

Paul Mc Keever RIP was at the core of a group of forward thinking individuals in our club, around 4 or 5 years ago, who immersed themselves in under 6s and under 8s, literally throwing the kitchen sink at providing the very best for them. It didnt take long for "Pauls team" to catch the eye at numerous blitz competitions throughout Ulster, his own wee men Ryan and Conor at the forefront. Sadly Paul got called prematurely from this life, and his presence is still sorely missed around these parts and will be for some time.

Every parish has their own tragedies, and deal with it in their own way. Roger Casements will attempt to preserve Pauls legacy (as the epitome of the ultimate selfless clubman) with a top class invitational 32 club juvenile competition which should attract a massive crowd to the town on Saturday in support of two very worthy cancer charities, Friends of the Cancer Centre and Cancer Focus Ni, who both provided vital counselling to Pauls family before and after his untimely passing.

If your'e free on Saturday evening come along and witness what will truly be a memorable spectacle.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2019, 08:52:25 AM
Still 100% a blow in Jim, wont ever dispute that lol. Still a soft spot for All Saints too, great memories, great club too from where it all began. I cant ever adopt the oneclubonelove mantra but there you go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2019, 09:10:43 AM
Great to see BS, a fitting legacy to a great servant of Portglenone. Im sure there will be a lot of pride and a wee lump in the throat at what was achieved in his name.
.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 26, 2019, 09:11:34 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 26, 2019, 08:52:25 AM
Still 100% a blow in Jim, wont ever dispute that lol. Still a soft spot for All Saints too, great memories, great club too from where it all began. I cant ever adopt the oneclubonelove mantra but there you go.

Sure Jim's an Armagh man anyway....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2019, 09:45:38 AM
Definitely Spike. Every club needs a Paul Mc Keever or two. I know people tend to wax lyrical about the deceased, but Paul truly was a one off. His passing was a touchstone moment within the club when his peers bonded even further to the ideal that promoting the juveniles of the club was by far the single biggest club priority. The new pitch development etc was always with the current juveniles in mind, and was just one element of Pauls forward thinking, in tandem with a few others who are still actively driving juvenile development as the key priority in Portglenone.

If more clubs adopted this philosophy I think the standard of football in the county would rise noticably. Antrim has lost too many quality players over the years by taking our eye of the ball with juveniles when they are at their very most impressionable age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 26, 2019, 01:21:07 PM
who do you all fancy tonight? cases for both to win it - looking forward to seeing a big Antrim match at Queens - it should be our Belfast hub for big matches with Casement extinct - a Stand, parking, modern hospitality etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 26, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Too close to call tonight's game. Get there early for the stand, heard it holds 250 max.
Belfast hub, not with the weather expected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2019, 07:11:52 PM
LD by 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 26, 2019, 07:39:40 PM
Draw after normal time again and LD to pull away in extra time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2019, 08:08:13 PM
PG1 by 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2019, 09:07:35 PM
Looks like a close one again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2019, 09:24:45 PM
Damn it no updates in seven minutes lol.

Either tight or lost internet. (Great update service again)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2019, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2019, 09:24:45 PM
Damn it no updates in seven minutes lol.

Either tight or lost internet. (Great update service again)

Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2019, 09:33:09 PM
Is there extra time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2019, 09:33:43 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 26, 2019, 07:39:40 PM
Draw after normal time again and LD to pull away in extra time

Let's see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
Great coverage I have to say.

Haven't been this interested in the football championship in quite a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2019, 09:34:31 PM
I wonder is there a bit of niggle in it. In the 2 short clips they've put up, there has been "afters".

Every video that's been put up Gerard McAleese has been involved in the afters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:05:18 PM
Christ check this one out from Cunningham. To be doing this at 10pm at night in those conditions...

https://twitter.com/aontroimgaa/status/1177327533215354893?s=21
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:11:16 PM
Hard to tell from the footage but looks to be outside of the boot too?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:14:39 PM
Free kicks now. Some battle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:29:18 PM
4-4 after 5. Sudden death. One of the Casement's scores could have done with Hawkeye.

6-6 now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on September 26, 2019, 10:35:16 PM
Replay.

Making it up as they go along?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2019, 10:35:31 PM
Another replay!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 26, 2019, 10:36:27 PM
FFS What a joke at half 10 at night. Looked like it was going to go on all night. Either kick pens or play a replay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Nanderson on September 26, 2019, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on September 26, 2019, 10:35:16 PM
Replay.

Making it up as they go along?
can they just decide to do that? Would have been a better rule to make the kicks progressively harder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 26, 2019, 10:37:21 PM
Nearly 6000 viewers at the finish there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 26, 2019, 10:40:37 PM
Were the frees taken from the 45 metre line? I thought I heard Sean saying on his live feed that the frees were being taken from 33 metres.Could be wrong though.If that was the case the teams would have been there all night so a replay would seem to be a correct decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:43:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2019, 10:36:38 PM
One of PG1's looked wide to me.

Albeit I was watching on my phone on a ropey enough live feed.

Great stuff, Sean Kelly though.

Have watched it a few times and am still not convinced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 26, 2019, 10:46:00 PM
I thought it looked wide left (looking at the posts)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:49:32 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 26, 2019, 10:46:00 PM
I thought it looked wide left (looking at the posts)

Were you at it?

On camera, from right behind him looked like over the top of the right hand post at best.

Looks and sounds like neither team deserved to lose and, rules be damned, these are amateur players in terrible conditions at 10.30pm at night. Feels like common sense to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2019, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 10:29:18 PM
4-4 after 5. Sudden death. One of the Casement's scores could have done with Hawkeye.

6-6 now

Yeah looked wide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 26, 2019, 10:54:19 PM
Sean Kelly super PRO.  Players held their nerve well.  Ciaran McCavana meant well I've no doubt, but seriously why is it always Antrim.  I mean, making the rules up as we go along, that's ridiculous.
Some seriously bad sportsmanship as well from the sidelines, hackling the kickers - there are some dickheads about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 26, 2019, 11:02:53 PM
I thought the rule was a further 2 x 5min period of extra time if it was a draw after first period of extra time?

After the St. John's portglenone game, the general consensus was that games should be finished on the day, now people are happy with a 2nd replay on this occasion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 26, 2019, 11:06:39 PM
I don't think anyone is "happy". I think it's that people would prefer that, under incredibly rare and unlikely circumstances, common sense is allowed to prevail. It was 10.30 at night in the cold and wet and you've leads who have to get up and go to school, college and work in the morning. Significant chance of injury out there too. Not ideal, but the correct decision.

Jerome got great footage at the death in extra time. Casement's defender coming out celebrating PC missing the free pushes LD man in the back and then promptly falls to ground turning injury. Ref having none of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 26, 2019, 11:21:45 PM
What a game! Had everything in it! Including dodgy decisions and uncertainties of rules.

So do yellow cards carry to extra time or not??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 26, 2019, 11:30:50 PM
Crazy!

Hard to look past cargin at this point.  So much emotion put into the past two games, v tired legs going into the final for both teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on September 26, 2019, 11:52:46 PM
Wow...what a finish to the game tonight!!! Glad to see the county chairman step in and show some leadership. Seems to be no consistency of GAA rules on how to settle a tie after extra time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 26, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2019, 11:02:53 PM
I thought the rule was a further 2 x 5min period of extra time if it was a draw after first period of extra time?

After the St. John's portglenone game, the general consensus was that games should be finished on the day, now people are happy with a 2nd replay on this occasion.

Extra 5 mins each way , after extra time abandoned  last year for 33 m free kicks. 2020 will see a straight forward penalty shoot out from 11m !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2019, 01:29:14 AM
Just my opinion but 100% hats off to Ciaran Mc Cavanagh on making a brave and very sensible call. As a parent of one of the freetakers I can tell you that the emotional turmoil that would follow the first unlucky person to miss would simply not be worth it. Some things are more important than football...believe it or not!

Fair play, a big call that should meet with approval by all level headed people. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 27, 2019, 06:01:23 AM
Quote from: delgany on September 26, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2019, 11:02:53 PM
I thought the rule was a further 2 x 5min period of extra time if it was a draw after first period of extra time?

After the St. John's portglenone game, the general consensus was that games should be finished on the day, now people are happy with a 2nd replay on this occasion.

Extra 5 mins each way , after extra time abandoned  last year for 33 m free kicks. 2020 will see a straight forward penalty shoot out from 11m !

Not sure what the Antrim Championship regulations are for this year. Would be interested to see them if anyone has a link.

Last set I saw from a year or two ago there was no mention of free kicks, just extra time. The extra 10 mins each way followed by 5 mins each way I think was for the National Leagues. Again dont know if this was to follow into club championship games.

The one rule that was in place previously was that replays must be within 4 days of a drawn game which might explain the St Johns thing if that is still written in.

I found it painful watching the frees last night. The more it went on the more I was thinking screw this for a way to seperate teams that had fought so closely over 2 matches. But again great if someone had the latest regulations purely for interest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 27, 2019, 06:04:37 AM
And as for the shouting and heckling of kick takers. Those who were at it hang your head in shame.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 27, 2019, 06:01:23 AM
Quote from: delgany on September 26, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2019, 11:02:53 PM
I thought the rule was a further 2 x 5min period of extra time if it was a draw after first period of extra time?

After the St. John's portglenone game, the general consensus was that games should be finished on the day, now people are happy with a 2nd replay on this occasion.

Extra 5 mins each way , after extra time abandoned  last year for 33 m free kicks. 2020 will see a straight forward penalty shoot out from 11m !

Not sure what the Antrim Championship regulations are for this year. Would be interested to see them if anyone has a link.

Last set I saw from a year or two ago there was no mention of free kicks, just extra time. The extra 10 mins each way followed by 5 mins each way I think was for the National Leagues. Again dont know if this was to follow into club championship games.

The one rule that was in place previously was that replays must be within 4 days of a drawn game which might explain the St Johns thing if that is still written in.

I found it painful watching the frees last night. The more it went on the more I was thinking screw this for a way to seperate teams that had fought so closely over 2 matches. But again great if someone had the latest regulations purely for interest.
It is 4 days or as directed by CCC so if they wanted to show a bit of common sense or consideration of player welfare they could, but they won't.
Long and the short of it is, they should have thought about fair or reasonable free kicks were before putting them into place. What can't take place is the cou ty chair deciding on the hoof that it's late and sure we'll just have a replay. A complete and total farce
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
He didn't decide on the hoof. He consulted with both managers and it was agreed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2019, 07:59:15 AM
I'm sure I heard a manager saying "we aren't taking another kick" when McCavana called them over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 08:15:28 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
He didn't decide on the hoof. He consulted with both managers and it was agreed.
Ah I see, well that's OK then. Sure we'll just have a set of rules for each game agreed between the County chair and the teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Has "realist" in his name. Isn't capable of being realistic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2019, 08:42:19 AM
first of all the coverage from our PRO was superb as always last night. being able to follow the game live at that stage was top notch. well done Sean.

Secondly free kicks is an utter bullshittery way to decide a game. if it finish level after extra time then its another replay. its not ideal for the time frame for the clubs or the club waiting them in the final but it seems fairly unanimous  that no one likes free kicks.

well that and the same 5 kickers just kept going and going which was nonsense.

What are the actual rules, the official ones for this situation?

Well done to Ciaran for coming out yet again and giving a reason for stopping the free kicks.

On a negative - the st johns boys will feel very aggrieved at this as they were told the final couldn't be moved back so they had to play their game when it was set

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2019, 08:43:38 AM
I think the chairman deserves a lot of credit for this. If he hadn't done it I would expect the same people to be giving off about free kicks etc etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 27, 2019, 08:44:50 AM
Portglenone played 5 mins of the extra time unjustly with 14 men, with Ronan Delargy who had been sent off incorrectly before being allowed to return to the pitch.

Also, wishing a speedy recovery to big Pierce Fitzsimons who was stretchered off with what appears to be a knee injury.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb1 on September 27, 2019, 09:04:17 AM
Noticed one Portglenone player hitting his frees off the deck, is this allowed? You could hear a few Lamh Dearg boys protesting. I always thought it was out of the hands.

Stupid way to end the game anyway in all fairness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2019, 09:18:54 AM
all proceeds of the 3rd game to go to charity - Deter MND and the Paul McKeever Cancer focus.

well done and great to see two charities benefit from this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 09:26:11 AM
Morally the decision was a good one but that does not get away from the fact that rules were just created ad hoc last night and that has to be questioned.

Surely clubs were advised of the championship regulations in advance of this years competition? A quick glance at a couple of other county websites shows that they have theirs available to view, Antrim's most recent version is from 2017.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
Regardless of the exact rules and regulations, it was a sensible call at 10.33pm.   Must be a better way to conclude these games though 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 09:35:27 AM
I don't buy that Spike, there are either rules or not. I do not favour any form of free kick or penalty shootout but if that was the rules then so be it. What would be the outcry today if another team had lost a free kick shootout in an earlier round?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Has "realist" in his name. Isn't capable of being realistic.
Not sure what your point is there.  I agree that free kicks is no way to finish a game. However the regulations were set by the county administration. To then decide during a game that those regulations aren't fit for purpose is an absolutely shambles. Perhaps a bit more forethought before competitions start would avoid such scenarios. Another 5 minutes of extra time ew would have been done and dusted before the free kicks were finished. And if that didn't sort, a replay and reschedule the final. And perhaps letting Cargin know about the rescheduling before anyone else would have been nice too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on September 27, 2019, 09:40:35 AM
Great to see proceeds of the replay are going to be split between two charities that mean an awful lot to people in the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2019, 09:48:30 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 09:35:27 AM
I don't buy that Spike, there are either rules or not. I do not favour any form of free kick or penalty shootout but if that was the rules then so be it. What would be the outcry today if another team had lost a free kick shootout in an earlier round?

I get your point but the two teams last night (who are the only ones relevant) 'appeared' to accept the decision.

Id ask where the referee was in all this, insisting on the additional 5 mins following the initial extra time.  The distance from goals for shooting last night didn't appear regulation either.  Whilst perhaps not a rule issue, the same 5 players taking the frees repeatedly seems a bit pointless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 27, 2019, 09:48:55 AM
Any idea when the replay is?

P.s. Great idea to donate the gate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
One thing I do disagree with was that all the commentary and reasoning from McCavana was around "that's no way to lose a semi-final" etc. In that instance I agree that rules are rules and they apply equally to everyone, and everyone should (although I acknowledge it's unlikely) have been aware of them in advance.

I'm surprised player welfare hasn't been mentioned at all from the CB as, to me, that's clearly a valid reason for McCavana taking the step he did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2019, 10:27:21 AM
Exactly Gallsman. Youll never please everyone but Ciaran made the right call and that was the concensus of almost everyone leaving the ground, from both clubs involved and neutrals alike.

Just saw the free take shoot out on Balls.ie Sean Kelly doing some job taking this drama to a wider platform and promoting Antrim GAA far and near. Top man altogether!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
Gallsman/Bannside - if the game was being played on Sunday at 3pm and had the same outcome, would he have stopped the shoot out or let it go on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 10:47:40 AM
I have absolutely no idea. Why are you asking me?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 10:59:42 AM
You mentioned player welfare but I doubt very much at that moment in time that had anything to do with his decision. I suspect is was more a decision based on 'Christ this is no way for either team to lose, it is cruel' so lets wrap it up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 27, 2019, 11:07:27 AM
Ahh lads, great spectacle for the neutral, two (amateur) teams away home happy they're still in the championship, charity benefitting from the replay, Antrim GAA getting great positive exposure up and down the country..... sure what more do ye want?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
Free kicks for deciding this is a load of balls anyway.

So should Dublin & Meath have been decided by frees in '91 at the end of the first replay?

F**k that.

Would have deprived us of one probably the most epic sequences of games ever. That is still talked about near 30 years later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 10:59:42 AM
You mentioned player welfare but I doubt very much at that moment in time that had anything to do with his decision. I suspect is was more a decision based on 'Christ this is no way for either team to lose, it is cruel' so lets wrap it up!

See basically all my previous posts. I think the right decision was made for the wrong reasons.

Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
One thing I do disagree with was that all the commentary and reasoning from McCavana was around "that's no way to lose a semi-final" etc. In that instance I agree that rules are rules and they apply equally to everyone, and everyone should (although I acknowledge it's unlikely) have been aware of them in advance.

I'm surprised player welfare hasn't been mentioned at all from the CB as, to me, that's clearly a valid reason for McCavana taking the step he did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 10:59:42 AM
You mentioned player welfare but I doubt very much at that moment in time that had anything to do with his decision. I suspect is was more a decision based on 'Christ this is no way for either team to lose, it is cruel' so lets wrap it up!

See basically all my previous posts. I think the right decision was made for the wrong reasons.

Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
One thing I do disagree with was that all the commentary and reasoning from McCavana was around "that's no way to lose a semi-final" etc. In that instance I agree that rules are rules and they apply equally to everyone, and everyone should (although I acknowledge it's unlikely) have been aware of them in advance.

I'm surprised player welfare hasn't been mentioned at all from the CB as, to me, that's clearly a valid reason for McCavana taking the step he did.

Erm, are they not the same thing.

"This is no way to lose a semi-final" == "this'll destroy the player that misses the free"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 27, 2019, 11:54:34 AM
well.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 10:59:42 AM
You mentioned player welfare but I doubt very much at that moment in time that had anything to do with his decision. I suspect is was more a decision based on 'Christ this is no way for either team to lose, it is cruel' so lets wrap it up!

See basically all my previous posts. I think the right decision was made for the wrong reasons.

Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
One thing I do disagree with was that all the commentary and reasoning from McCavana was around "that's no way to lose a semi-final" etc. In that instance I agree that rules are rules and they apply equally to everyone, and everyone should (although I acknowledge it's unlikely) have been aware of them in advance.

I'm surprised player welfare hasn't been mentioned at all from the CB as, to me, that's clearly a valid reason for McCavana taking the step he did.

Erm, are they not the same thing.

"This is no way to lose a semi-final" == "this'll destroy the player that misses the free"

Wtf are you on about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 27, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
This is a very dangerous precedent.  Imagine for example in a years time you're down the country somewhere with your club playing a minor championship game, and somebody from the county board just unilaterally moves the goalposts on the night - there'll be uproar - but what's to stop them now?Last night might have been seen as exceptional circumstances, but there will be other exceptional circumstances, and where do you draw the line?  The feel good factor from this decision will soon wear off and then we are left with a problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 12:09:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 27, 2019, 10:59:42 AM
You mentioned player welfare but I doubt very much at that moment in time that had anything to do with his decision. I suspect is was more a decision based on 'Christ this is no way for either team to lose, it is cruel' so lets wrap it up!

See basically all my previous posts. I think the right decision was made for the wrong reasons.

Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
One thing I do disagree with was that all the commentary and reasoning from McCavana was around "that's no way to lose a semi-final" etc. In that instance I agree that rules are rules and they apply equally to everyone, and everyone should (although I acknowledge it's unlikely) have been aware of them in advance.

I'm surprised player welfare hasn't been mentioned at all from the CB as, to me, that's clearly a valid reason for McCavana taking the step he did.

Erm, are they not the same thing.

"This is no way to lose a semi-final" == "this'll destroy the player that misses the free"

Wtf are you on about

Pretty obvious that:

"You mentioned player welfare but I doubt very much at that moment in time that had anything to do with his decision. I suspect is was more a decision based on 'Christ this is no way for either team to lose, it is cruel' so lets wrap it up!"

makes no sense. What else could it mean but player welfare! Whoever had the critical miss in the end would be pretty f**ked in the head.

Cruel? Cruel on who? The players that miss. Hence looking out for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 27, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
This is a very dangerous precedent.  Imagine for example in a years time you're down the country somewhere with your club playing a minor championship game, and somebody from the county board just unilaterally moves the goalposts on the night - there'll be uproar - but what's to stop them now?Last night might have been seen as exceptional circumstances, but there will be other exceptional circumstances, and where do you draw the line?  The feel good factor from this decision will soon wear off and then we are left with a problem.

Someone dropping dead in the stands and having a game abandoned isn't in the rulebook.

Yet you'd not see many complain.

Exceptional circumstances are exceptional for a reason - and in those circumstances folks in charge have to try and make the best decisions they can in the moment. You cannot legislate for everything in the rulebook.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 27, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
This is a very dangerous precedent.  Imagine for example in a years time you're down the country somewhere with your club playing a minor championship game, and somebody from the county board just unilaterally moves the goalposts on the night - there'll be uproar - but what's to stop them now?Last night might have been seen as exceptional circumstances, but there will be other exceptional circumstances, and where do you draw the line?  The feel good factor from this decision will soon wear off and then we are left with a problem.

Someone dropping dead in the stands and having a game abandoned isn't in the rulebook.

Yet you'd not see many complain.

Exceptional circumstances are exceptional for a reason - and in those circumstances folks in charge have to try and make the best decisions they can in the moment. You cannot legislate for everything in the rulebook.
The difference is that provisions for someone dropping dead isn't in the rule book. Using frees, rightly or wrongly, is. What shouldn't happen is just because it doesn't look like a good spectacle, that those rules can be changed in the middle of a game. As others have said, a precedent has been set
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 27, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Firstly can I say great game, however our CC took the rule book and fecked it out the window, he made the call on his own last night, common sense yes all day and it was late granted,  however rules are rules and that's why we have them and the CCC/CHC. Its not his call full stop, we can all make the case for common sense, player welfare etc. Has he and his committees this year not punished and fined clubs for managers etc taking teams off the pitch, and those same people claimed welfare, common sense in their defense etc etc . They where fined and banned for long periods of time this year, Aghagallon Minors being a prime example, destroyed their season this year. So again back to my point made in previous posts, this executive does what it wants when it wants! Delargy yellow card incident with referee and his officials, farcical.  Same five players taking the next round of frees? Anyone want to educate me on this one? Is not supposed to be a new set of players taking the next 5? MR2 you've gone quiet there ahead of your final wanna educate me on rule? Not talking about individuals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 27, 2019, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 27, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Firstly can I say great game, however our CC took the rule book and fecked it out the window, he made the call on his own last night, common sense yes all day and it was late granted,  however rules are rules and that's why we have them and the CCC/CHC. Its not his call full stop, we can all make the case for common sense, player welfare etc. Has he and his committees this year not punished and fined clubs for managers etc taking teams off the pitch, and those same people claimed welfare, common sense in their defense etc etc . They where fined and banned for long periods of time this year, Aghagallon Minors being a prime example, destroyed their season this year. So again back to my point made in previous posts, this executive does what it wants when it wants! Delargy yellow card incident with referee and his officials, farcical.  Same five players taking the next round of frees? Anyone want to educate me on this one? Is not supposed to be a new set of players taking the next 5? MR2 you've gone quiet there ahead of your final wanna educate me on rule? Not talking about individuals?

https://www.the42.ie/gaa-all-ireland-football-qualifiers-4055908-Jun2018/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 27, 2019, 12:52:03 PM
So much to debate about last night or what !
For me Queens was a brilliant venue for the brilliant contest we saw - everyone think it was a great venue? Quite sure the venue boosted the crowd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
so from that its the following:

Each team will nominate five free-takers and indicate to the referee in which order (1-5) they will take frees.

Players who have received a red or black card during the game are not permitted to take frees.

The frees in football will be kicked from the centre line marking the semi-circle (33m) from the hands or off the ground.

Only points will count.

Only the players involved in the free-taking shootout - as well as the referee, linesmen and two umpires – are allowed on the the pitch.

If the teams are still tied after five frees, sudden death kicks in and will involve the same five players in order.

If a player scores in sudden death and his direct opponent misses, the game is awarded to the team of the player who has scored.

The sudden death element will continue until such time as there is a definite outcome, returning to the first player and repeating the sequence again if required.

It seems the rules were followed correctly in this instance except for the fact it was stopped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on September 27, 2019, 12:56:14 PM
Don't think the powers that be thought about the free kicks too well.  The shoot outs are liable to go on for ages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on September 27, 2019, 01:06:10 PM
The Chairman's getting the flak on here but it wasn't solely his decision though.  He can quite clearly be seen talking to both coaches who were in agreement.

If one of the coaches wanted to play on, I'm sure they'd have played on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2019, 01:11:05 PM
If you do any coaching, try out a shooting drill from 33 metres and see just how many dont make it over the bar, even unopposed, or a team kicking about in the warm up before a game. A 90% return stat from last night was much higher than the norm. Then add in the sheer pressure.....believe me manys a half decent player has missed those!!

To reinforce my point, three years ago Conor Mc Aliskey from Clonoe missed a match winning 21 yard free to win a county semi final right in front of the goals. It happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barelegs on September 27, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
I'm fairly sure Central Council decided at the beginning of the year to switch to penalty kicks in the 'winner of the day' scenario but free kicks were in the competition regulations hence the free kicks last night.

To be honest it's probably a good job it went to a replay because had PG1 lost and had to play without a player wrongly sent off (even if he returned when the error was realised) because a yellow card was wrongly carried into extra time then we'd probably be looking at an appeal and rightly so.

Thought PG1 were the better team in the first half and LD probably the better side over the rest of the game on balance. PG1 were much more economical in front of the posts. Looking forward to game 3! Fitzsimmons will be a loss for LD had been having a great championship.

Thought the Dub was a great venue, it's just a pity no one looked into some sort of PA in advance. There were a lot of people wondering what was happening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 27, 2019, 01:51:25 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on September 27, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 27, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
This is a very dangerous precedent.  Imagine for example in a years time you're down the country somewhere with your club playing a minor championship game, and somebody from the county board just unilaterally moves the goalposts on the night - there'll be uproar - but what's to stop them now?Last night might have been seen as exceptional circumstances, but there will be other exceptional circumstances, and where do you draw the line?  The feel good factor from this decision will soon wear off and then we are left with a problem.

Someone dropping dead in the stands and having a game abandoned isn't in the rulebook.

Yet you'd not see many complain.

Exceptional circumstances are exceptional for a reason - and in those circumstances folks in charge have to try and make the best decisions they can in the moment. You cannot legislate for everything in the rulebook.

The difference is that provisions for someone dropping dead isn't in the rule book. Using frees, rightly or wrongly, is. What shouldn't happen is just because it doesn't look like a good spectacle, that those rules can be changed in the middle of a game. As others have said, a precedent has been set

I suppose the bottom line for me, and I'm sorry to say it, is I don't trust that individual officials from Boards won't take advantage of this in the future.  Can't predict how or when but I repeat it is a dangerous precedent.  Taken in isolation, it is great to see so much interest in Antrim football, hopefully Lenny can bottle some of it, and delighted to see the charities benefiting.  No doubt at all that the Chairman is acting in good faith.  Hopefully we'll never see freekicks again - must've been torturous for all involved.  Bannside can't even imagine what it must've been like as a parent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 27, 2019, 02:30:00 PM
I think it was absolutely the right intervention from the the Chairman and didn't hear one voice raised in opposition or disagreement on the night, including from within both playing squads. It resolved last night's issue and I am sure the Board or CCC will now look at the rules going forward, they will need to be clarified and implemented. The venue is ideal, there hundreds of neutrals there who took advantage of the location and the attraction of a big game under lights. Some of the football maybe lacked fluidity but, credit to both squads - couldn't beat it for drama!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2019, 03:13:20 PM
There are nights in football you never forget and last night will go down as one of them. Maybe not a classic for the neutral but when half the team are either living in your house or are welcome guests in it, you end up kicking every ball with them for better or worse, and then you get home and they meet up and start kicking every ball all over again....lets just say there hasnt been much work done today lol.

A similar thing happened when i played with Ballymena back in the eighties. We were just outof intermediate and drew the undisputed kingpins of Antrim football, a star studded Johhnies team on a preliminary senior cship, but we managed to get a massive result that day....funny enough it had to go to Portglenone because Ballymenas pitch wasnt c'ship standard at the time.

A week later we played LD at the same venue in the next round, and guess what....it finished a draw too! Three nights later the replay was in Hannahstown, and youve guessed....it too finished a draw! We played 10 mins extra time (i was off the field having been clattered into "accidentally" by a certain Brendan Toland lol) and in this peroid LD went SEVEN points clear all of a sudden. The game looked finally gone from us, and some of the crowd started to leave.

But in the second period of ten minutes the classy Barney Mc Cann scored THREE goals and All Saints ended up winning by four points!.....A game still talked about if not in Hannahstown, certainly still around Ballymena. For the record St Pauls put us out of our misery in the semi final!

This years saga is still running so who knows what way it will end, but I'm sure in 30 years many of those present last night will still recall last nights memorable occasion at the Dub arena.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on September 27, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Shocking intervention. But sure as long as no-one on the teams disagreed  ::) Whats the point of having rules if some lad with an ego can just overwrite them when he feels like it? They all signed up to it, if they need changed (and I'm not a fan of the rule), then there's a process to do that, the same process that set them. Unbelievable to see him striding in to call a halt  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 27, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Shocking intervention. But sure as long as no-one on the teams disagreed  ::) Whats the point of having rules if some lad with an ego can just overwrite them when he feels like it? They all signed up to it, if they need changed (and I'm not a fan of the rule), then there's a process to do that, the same process that set them. Unbelievable to see him striding in to call a halt  :-[
100%.Especially since it was Antrim's own bye laws that created the problem in the first place!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 27, 2019, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 27, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Shocking intervention. But sure as long as no-one on the teams disagreed  ::) Whats the point of having rules if some lad with an ego can just overwrite them when he feels like it? They all signed up to it, if they need changed (and I'm not a fan of the rule), then there's a process to do that, the same process that set them. Unbelievable to see him striding in to call a halt  :-[

I wouldn't be great at reading between the lines, however I am guessing you are not a fan of our County Chairman, are we sure it was a solo decision i.e. did he ring anyone in CCC to discuss first?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 27, 2019, 04:01:17 PM
No he's on Twitter last night at 11.20pm saying it was his decision. Thanks for that CD that's it cleared up for me. Don't let the fact of great game, great venue, great crowd/atmosphere cloud the issue, it was a clear breach of the rules. Fantastic btw the gates going to charities it was that or everyone free in for next instalment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on September 27, 2019, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 27, 2019, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 27, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Shocking intervention. But sure as long as no-one on the teams disagreed  ::) Whats the point of having rules if some lad with an ego can just overwrite them when he feels like it? They all signed up to it, if they need changed (and I'm not a fan of the rule), then there's a process to do that, the same process that set them. Unbelievable to see him striding in to call a halt  :-[

I wouldn't be great at reading between the lines, however I am guessing you are not a fan of our County Chairman, are we sure it was a solo decision i.e. did he ring anyone in CCC to discuss first?

I've no real knowledge of him - my view is based on last night, possibly coloured by some of the videos he has put up in the past. Regardless of who was involved in any conversation, it beggars belief that they could have been watching an ongoing competition, and decided it was within their remit to call a halt to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 27, 2019, 04:39:59 PM
CCC should interview match referee after receiving his report

Report of referee
The name of any official or spectator who interfered during the course of the game

Powers of referee
To terminate a game because of outside interference, or any other serious reason that merits such action

Charges under investigation:
Disruptive conduct by official causing premature termination of a game
Misconduct considered to have discredited the association


pps superb venue, 260 quid well spent, they missed a trick closing the coffee after half time

ps2 have free replay gate, donations at the gate by the charities, they'll not have their fees

ps3 get rid of the free kicks or penalties to conclude a game, i remember it being as many sets of additional 5 minutes at it needed

ps4 they could have tossed a coin


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 28, 2019, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 27, 2019, 04:11:29 PM
To insure that both Charities maximise the opportunity the County should let them do the gate themselves, I'm sure EG has had enough to fill as many of those envelopes he likes at this stage.

Have you proof of that? If not I think it's unfair to out someone in a public forum like this.

Player welfare or whatever reasons given, any player could miss a 21 yard free in the last kick of a game as previously highlighted. The game should've ended on the night, my opinion, bit know we have a rescheduled county final that two weeks ago couldn't be rescheduled...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 28, 2019, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on September 27, 2019, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 27, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Shocking intervention. But sure as long as no-one on the teams disagreed  ::) Whats the point of having rules if some lad with an ego can just overwrite them when he feels like it? They all signed up to it, if they need changed (and I'm not a fan of the rule), then there's a process to do that, the same process that set them. Unbelievable to see him striding in to call a halt  :-[
100%.Especially since it was Antrim's own bye laws that created the problem in the first place!

The kicking competition was created by Central Council not Antrim CCC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2019, 05:20:19 PM
Tight junior final by the looks of it. Two point win for Lisburn. Fair play to them. Good to see a strengthening GAA presence there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 28, 2019, 11:41:18 PM
Thanks to all who came our and supported our club tribute day in memory of Paul Mc Keever. It was a resounding success with Pauls team coming out on top of Glen Maghera in an exciting final. There wasnt a dry eye in the house...Glen hit the post and the crossbar but on the day that was in it there was only going to be one winner. Fair play to County Chairman and esteemed PRO Sean Kelly for making the trip to Portglenone to lend their support for a very worthy cause.

Earlier in the day our senior reserves won their championship to get the day off to a good start. Home and hosed as they say, the excitement building nicely around the town once more for the next installment of RC v LD (Version 3) on Monday night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 28, 2019, 11:47:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2019, 05:20:19 PM
Tight junior final by the looks of it. Two point win for Lisburn. Fair play to them. Good to see a strengthening GAA presence there.
28 years after last junior win , after two loses in the final , st Patrick's won the JFC, after a hard fought game against Ardoyne, with 14 men for over 50 mins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on September 30, 2019, 10:16:04 AM
What are the thoughts of a Div 2 team winning junior championship?

Alot was made of St endas playing intermediate last year, surely this is the exact same?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 30, 2019, 10:27:40 AM
Quote from: saffman on September 30, 2019, 10:16:04 AM
What are the thoughts of a Div 2 team winning junior championship?

Alot was made of St endas playing intermediate last year, surely this is the exact same?

they were relegated with 1 victory in 16 games so they are a junior team really, that's their level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
I wonder whats the plan tonight if draw after ET?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pearse Blue on September 30, 2019, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
I wonder whats the plan tonight if draw after ET?
Headers and Volleys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 30, 2019, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
I wonder whats the plan tonight if draw after ET?

God only knows, surely they cannot revert to a free kick/penalty scenario as the auspice of Mental Health and player welfare was used as the reason for halting it on Thursday night, has the County Chairman provided a rod for his own back or metaphorically tied the hands of the CCCC???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 30, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on September 30, 2019, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
I wonder whats the plan tonight if draw after ET?
Headers and Volleys

Jack change it. Best out of three.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2019, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 30, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on September 30, 2019, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
I wonder whats the plan tonight if draw after ET?
Headers and Volleys

Jack change it. Best out of three.

A sprint through Harryville in their GAA tops..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 30, 2019, 02:14:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
I wonder whats the plan tonight if draw after ET?

Penalties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on September 30, 2019, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 30, 2019, 10:27:40 AM
Quote from: saffman on September 30, 2019, 10:16:04 AM
What are the thoughts of a Div 2 team winning junior championship?

Alot was made of St endas playing intermediate last year, surely this is the exact same?

they were relegated with 1 victory in 16 games so they are a junior team really, that's their level


They entered junior championship prior to the league starting?

Based on your reply its okay to enter a lower competition if your expecting to be relegated?

Its a largely similar situation to that of st endas last year just differing in that st endas avoided relegation

Im not criticising nor defending either team but just asking the question as to what is the black and white lines regards entering championship tiers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on September 30, 2019, 03:13:32 PM
Championship to be aligned with league positions from next season is that correct?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 30, 2019, 03:30:43 PM
Rock paper scissors but take out the paper and scissors because it's not a nice way to lose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2019, 09:08:18 PM
By the look of it there will be a winner this evening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 30, 2019, 09:35:27 PM
LD win by 5.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 30, 2019, 10:00:25 PM
Goals absolutely killed it by the look of things.

Congrats LD. Wonder if they'll have anything left for the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 30, 2019, 11:45:22 PM
Congratulations to Lamh Dhearg on a deserved victory. No excuses from our camp....the better team won on the night. We will regroup and come back better next year, thats the challenge for us now. May the best team win Sundays final. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on October 01, 2019, 11:21:21 AM
Lamh Dhearg were deserved winners in the night. They look a good team who will put it up to Cargin in the final if they can recover in time!

Portglenone looked out on their feet in the second half. Almost as if 2 tough games against St. Johns, and 3 even tougher games against LD in less than 3 weeks were starting to take their toll...

Bannside there must be a lot of frustration in Portglenone?

No doubt LD and St Johns will share this frustration.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2019, 12:30:25 PM
I think in time Portglenone's feeling will be more fulfilment than frustration or maybe that depends on what their realistic aspirations were at the start of the year. They played in 6 championship games, twice as many as Cargin are likely to have played by teatime Sunday (notwithstanding another draw in the final....), and played a full role in an epic trilogy; that will stand to what looks like a young and emerging team.

Meanwhile this has been a terrific football championship so far. Do those games build momentum for LD, or is 4 big games in just over two weeks too much? We'll see.

An enticing minor final in prospect too between Cargin and Naomh Brid. Should be a great day of championship football.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2019, 12:37:51 PM
Yeah I would agree that this year is progress for Portglenone. They are young too and should improve from it.

Cargin starting to appear in quite a few underage finals again after a drought for a good while.
St Bridget's I suspect favourites.

I think Cargin will win the senior game by two or three.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 01, 2019, 12:39:27 PM
50 years ago we had a stand at Casement and a stand at Corrigan and now we have none! Sounds like we need someone on the county board with a specific remit to sort this out.
The football has been great this year but standing in grass and getting soaked last night and facing the same possibility on Sunday isn't the way to attract new followers to our games 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2019, 03:23:59 PM
Theres a real mixed bag of emotions round here today. We had a lot of the ball in the first half but scuffed three or four chances that should have gone over the bar and you just knew that would come back to bite us. But as ITG says we are young and can put some of this years highlights into the memory bank and kick on a bit further in the next year or two. We know where we are at and I think i did say in an earlier post that this year might be too early for us.

Its up to us and St Endas and St Marys Aghagallon, O Donovan Rossa (clubs with a good record in recent years at minor or under 20) to step up now and make every game in Antrim truly competitive and raise the standard throughout the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 01, 2019, 03:51:50 PM
BS a lot of learnings gained in your championship run... Reserve championship tucked away .... a sprinkling of talent in minor & u16 although light in numbers ..... you should be competitive over coming years.  Do you see yourselves or any of the 3 teams mentioned above lifting a SFC in the next 3 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2019, 04:25:40 PM
I wont duck that question Flanker, and say I think Portglenone can kick on and be a top two or three club in the near future. Id be really disappointed if we couldnt reach a final or two and win at least one in the next five years. Id be particularly excited though about what our club is doing way down the age groups and fully expect to see more than a few county titles in my lifetime. Thats because I know the work going on there is top notch, way better than anything before and i honestly believe that if clubs really got stuck properly into doing everything right in these formative years, Antrim football would be in a much more secure place in ten or twelve short years. Whatever comes from Gaelfast is added bonus territory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 01, 2019, 04:44:04 PM
Was Niall McKeever on the county panel this year? If not will he be back next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2019, 05:00:32 PM
No, and not sure whether that was Niall or Lennys choice, maybe both. Big Niall has had a bad run of niggly injuries including waiting now on surgery over the winter, but a fully fit and hungry NMK would still be a big asset. He took on the responsibility of  club senior captain this year and seems to be enjoying his football again. The county needs a couple of serious ball winners in the middle third because imo we struggled there last year and every county we played against seemed to have three or four brick shithouses in that area.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 01, 2019, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 01, 2019, 04:25:40 PM
I wont duck that question Flanker, and say I think Portglenone can kick on and be a top two or three club in the near future. Id be really disappointed if we couldnt reach a final or two and win at least one in the next five years. Id be particularly excited though about what our club is doing way down the age groups and fully expect to see more than a few county titles in my lifetime. Thats because I know the work going on there is top notch, way better than anything before and i honestly believe that if clubs really got stuck properly into doing everything right in these formative years, Antrim football would be in a much more secure place in ten or twelve short years. Whatever comes from Gaelfast is added bonus territory.
Agree 100% on this BS...Not enough do though....It is a long haul with lots of hard work and no short cuts. There are a few clubs who appear to be re visiting their juvenille set up ...how serious they are remains to be seen. If a few do others should follow. It is the only way to improve though. The closest working example is probably Dunloy with the recent minor / u21 /senior achievements resulting from their underage strategy and academy. Early signs from Saturday evening would be a positive indicator that you are getting a lot of things right and building a good foundation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 01, 2019, 05:40:45 PM
Was talking to a fella today about the same thing Flanker and he told me that he overheard someone from Dunloy complaining at the hurling final on Sunday that their under 12 footballers were at a top u 12 blitz competition earlier that day in Derry someehere with all the big clubs involved and won every game. Mind you he finished up by saying that someone should have burst the bloody ball lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 01, 2019, 11:12:04 PM
No doubt Dunloy are a leading light in club development. One question to the group is '''Are we the only county without a ground with a covered stand to host big games. Is there anything definite in the pipeline
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 01, 2019, 05:40:45 PM
Was talking to a fella today about the same thing Flanker and he told me that he overheard someone from Dunloy complaining at the hurling final on Sunday that their under 12 footballers were at a top u 12 blitz competition earlier that day in Derry someehere with all the big clubs involved and won every game. Mind you he finished up by saying that someone should have burst the bloody ball lol.

yeah they were there in Glenulin at the weekend and won every game and won the Cup competition. they are a cracking wee team and have barely lost a game at hurling as well. A lot of work put in to them in the academy from they were wee ones is paying off again.

its nice to see but having a building is pointless unless you have the coaches and the kids wanting to play.

I was at the game Monday night (with a hangover still!) and it was a very well run game. fair play to Ballymena as its a hard venue in the pitch dark to ensure so many peoples safety at one time as well looking after both teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 02, 2019, 10:47:40 AM
I've seen quite a lot of underage football over the last few years and I've really noticed a few clubs who had really talented U12 squads a few years ago fall away badly.  Kids skills not developing at all, while a few other clubs have climbed the ladder from nowhere.  The variation in coaching quality between our clubs seems to be very wide.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
I remember coaching under 12 years ago(early noughties) and Lisburn were a fantastic team. I wonder did any of them win the junior recently.

Dunloy always produce good footballers. It's balancing the dual side of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 12:07:43 PM
sorry i should edit that it was an U8 tournament they were at. They are the same at the hurling as well. very strong and some very talented wee lads.

sons of former senior players in that group like Gary & Greg O'Kanes, Paddy & Liam Richmond, Seamus & Damian McMullan so they have a decent talent in their genes lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 02, 2019, 01:06:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
I remember coaching under 12 years ago(early noughties) and Lisburn were a fantastic team. I wonder did any of them win the junior recently.

Dunloy always produce good footballers. It's balancing the dual side of it.

There was 9 starters and 6 subs in the Lisburn squad , last weekend , who played under age football  in the 2004 -2010 period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2019, 04:50:45 PM
I think it was 02 or 03 I coached and Kevin madden was Lisburn u12 coach at the time. I remember them being very good - possibly the best i saw in the sw that year. Not sure if they won it or not in the end.

Dr if your u12s are good I could see a long period of dominance coming in hurling at least!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2019, 04:50:45 PM
I think it was 02 or 03 I coached and Kevin madden was Lisburn u12 coach at the time. I remember them being very good - possibly the best i saw in the sw that year. Not sure if they won it or not in the end.

Dr if your u12s are good I could see a long period of dominance coming in hurling at least!

its the wee U8's who are very strong. The U10's are pretty handy as well atm in both grades like the 8's.

I think its a bit of luck in terms of numbers along with the ability of having the facility to train indoors no matter the weather.

we should be finishing off our new outdoor 4G pitch beside the Academy shortly so that give more room and be able to train at night in it and stay off the grass when its so wet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on October 02, 2019, 05:30:33 PM
Mind that wee Lisburn team. Madden was coaching there teams around that time.

They were a well drilled outfit & beat us in the SW final. Could have been 03/04.


Be interesting to know if any are still playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2019, 05:32:10 PM
Might have been. Showing my age and those years blurry as to which one it was lol.yeah I did think they won it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on October 02, 2019, 05:39:05 PM
Not certain on year at same time! Think it was the Johnstons & David McGuckins year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 02, 2019, 07:48:32 PM
PG1 are certainly on the up and their complex is superb which must be helping. So r Cargin in minor and senior finals and super new facilities.
Are the schools going good work up there or is it all the clubs work?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 02, 2019, 08:40:14 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on October 02, 2019, 05:30:33 PM
Mind that wee Lisburn team. Madden was coaching there teams around that time.

They were a well drilled outfit & beat us in the SW final. Could have been 03/04.


Be interesting to know if any are still playing


They won u12 cup in 2003 and u 14 Shield in 2004
Five from 03 still playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2019, 07:29:17 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!

Were you up at the match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!

It was £5 a head into the ground which means 860 people paid in on a wet and dark monday night

are you saying that some one has stolen money?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2019, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!

It was £5 a head into the ground which means 860 people paid in on a wet and dark monday night

are you saying that some one has stolen money?

I would hazard a guess and say there wasn't even 800 people at it... I was there seemed no more than 600/700 people, considering the weather that was a great turn out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2019, 09:29:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2019, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2019, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!

It was £5 a head into the ground which means 860 people paid in on a wet and dark monday night

are you saying that some one has stolen money?


I would hazard a guess and say there wasn't even 800 people at it... I was there seemed no more than 600/700 people, considering the weather that was a great turn out

I would of thought that sounded right from the crowd i seen there. there was loads of kids and young people there as well so £4600 was an impressive amount of money for the crowd that was there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!

And what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2019, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 03, 2019, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Only £4,600 to the Charities, that's a shock & very disappointing,  shudda let the Charities do the gates themselves !!!!

And what?

Don't feed the troll
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
Sticks & Stones Farset, kids and all MR2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2019, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 03, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
Sticks & Stones Farset, kids and all MR2.

How many did you think turned up? Someone I seen put nothing in and walked on in for free!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 03, 2019, 08:07:04 PM
Anyone give an estimate for the crowd at the Dub.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 04, 2019, 11:49:54 AM
Calm down everyone ! what's the chances of a Cargin double on Sunday? can't remember that being done in long time...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 04, 2019, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 04, 2019, 11:49:54 AM
Calm down everyone ! what's the chances of a Cargin double on Sunday? can't remember that being done in long time...

Does the big full forward not play on both teams ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 04, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Shivers? Yeah he does, however, he did not start against St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 04, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 04, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Shivers? Yeah he does, however, he did not start against St Galls

You would have give credit to the ccc for putting this game on with the senior game so that young Shivers might get injured or just generally fecked after the minor final and not to be able to play in the senior final. Fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 04, 2019, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 04, 2019, 11:49:54 AM
Calm down everyone ! what's the chances of a Cargin double on Sunday? can't remember that being done in long time...

I think St Bridget's just have a bit more craft in the minor, good outfit that wee cub Morgan is in a class of his own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 05, 2019, 06:36:47 PM
What price a Cargin double tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 05, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Seniors 1/2 LD 2/1
Don't think there r is any minor match odds
Who do u fancy big ball ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2019, 08:32:33 PM
Surprise in intermediate with aldergrove winning. Fair play to them. I don't ever remember them winning anything at adult level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2019, 12:03:02 AM
Fancy Cargin in minor & another draw in senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on October 06, 2019, 01:05:06 AM

willib, you're only a wanab, 'nuff said

Pps I think indiscipline will play a role tomorrow, in both games

Ps2 imagine who would bet on children playing football

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2019, 02:39:47 PM
What odds for Cargin double now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 06, 2019, 09:21:20 PM
See our own wee ref and his earpiece on the official GAA Facebook page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 06, 2019, 09:54:22 PM
Super final with big crowd . Michael mc cann Cargin s savoiur. LD some cracking new players with the Murray's quiet. Draw fair result imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 06, 2019, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2019, 12:03:02 AM
Fancy Cargin in minor & another draw in senior

Well how much did you win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: under the bar on October 06, 2019, 11:39:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 06, 2019, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2019, 12:03:02 AM
Fancy Cargin in minor & another draw in senior

Well how much did you win
Nice one. Joe Brolly comes up short again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 07, 2019, 09:17:40 AM
Joe came up short & so did I. Had Moneyglass & Aldergrove for a draw also. Ah well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 07, 2019, 02:13:24 PM
Very little chat about this game, few questions need to be asked, do Moneyglass have a choke mentality or did Aldergrove just want it more ? Was the winning free for Aldergrove a bit on the soft side?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 07, 2019, 05:13:50 PM
St brigids choked again also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 07, 2019, 05:21:02 PM
Always a perplexing time of the year. Two good teams going at it in a well attended county final and lots of wider interest.  Why oh why are we at the bottom of the heap in County football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2019, 05:22:00 PM
One of those two teams have no county players would be part of it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 07, 2019, 07:45:06 PM
I'd say Lenny will have seen plenty of young talent starting to emerge and expect half a dozen or more new faces in next years panel. He has been at, or represented at nearly every championship game including junior and intermediate, and will have a new shortlist of players he is keen on. I'd go as far as suggest too that Lenny he has a very open mind on recalling a few veterans (two or three from Mick Justy Tomas Pollock Niblock Paddy C etc) if they show any desire or hunger to commit to the cause. At this stage I'd be very optimistic that next year will see a more competitive panel...all we need is to get off to a good start in our first few matches and the momentum would grow from there.

It would be good too if the traditional support would return. An extra three or four hundred at our home games would make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 07, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 07, 2019, 05:13:50 PM
St brigids choked again also

Really? I saw them playing well against another good side and losing by 4 points. But if denigrating kids is your thing work away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 07, 2019, 09:29:29 PM
Not running down the lads but losing Minor finals has been a bad habit for your club. Hence the choke remark, just stating the facts
Brendan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 07, 2019, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 07, 2019, 09:29:29 PM
Not running down the lads but losing Minor finals has been a bad habit for your club. Hence the choke remark, just stating the facts
Brendan

Yeah lost two in 21 year history 🙄, does that constitute a habit?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KeyboardWarriorRepellent on October 07, 2019, 11:37:14 PM
Some harsh comments about a team that reaches the minor final...Opens the door for more negativity from the keyboard warriors on this forum..Coulda,woulda,shoulda... blah blah blah...Any good news anyone? or is that not allowed here..Let the negativity roll now.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 08, 2019, 06:25:18 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 07, 2019, 05:13:50 PM
St brigids choked again also

How did they choke in this final or the one versus Dunloy? I was at both games and the better team won both matches. That can happen. Losing doesn't equal choking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 08, 2019, 07:52:48 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 07, 2019, 07:45:06 PM
I'd say Lenny will have seen plenty of young talent starting to emerge and expect half a dozen or more new faces in next years panel. He has been at, or represented at nearly every championship game including junior and intermediate, and will have a new shortlist of players he is keen on. I'd go as far as suggest too that Lenny he has a very open mind on recalling a few veterans (two or three from Mick Justy Tomas Pollock Niblock Paddy C etc) if they show any desire or hunger to commit to the cause. At this stage I'd be very optimistic that next year will see a more competitive panel...all we need is to get off to a good start in our first few matches and the momentum would grow from there.

It would be good too if the traditional support would return. An extra three or four hundred at our home games would make a huge difference.

lenny can make all the short lists he wants bannside but nobody in the right mind would goto that set up. 5 nights a week for a div 4 push and at best a win in the qualifiers. I can see why the mick,justys ,Pollock and healys etc's don't go near it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 08, 2019, 09:25:52 AM
Positivity is this years county final . Remember lasts years 5 to 4 final . Also PG1 emergence as a serious team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 08, 2019, 09:27:59 AM
Harsh on St Brigids.  Got off to a horrible start and found it hard to break down a resolute defence. I don't think you could say players choked or didnt turn up. they got close and then Cargin got a breakaway point to seal the win.  These things happen, but to a man they gave their all.

In the Seniors LD looked 'up for it' while Cargin looked very flat.  The last few mins Cargin stepped it up a gear and LD collapsed.  The questions should be will Cargin be as poor again for such a long period or can LD start and maintain their pressure from the outset?  Makes for an intriguing match.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
Of the players you mention BelfastSaff Id expect Peter Healy to be involved. Hes still young and relatively fresh, two Sigerson cup finals under his belt and hopefully the hunger to represent Antrim in the coming years. Of the older brigade you mention Id say Lenny wouldnt go near any player who hasnt still got a fire burning for Antrim, but might put a bespoke plan in place for one or two vets who still show the essential desire.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
U21 championship starts this weekend. 7 groups of 3 with the top all into the 'A' along with one best placed runner up

all other teams into the 'B' championship. 11am starts for the games on a sunday morning. some very tough groups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 08, 2019, 01:12:45 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 08, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
U21 championship starts this weekend. 7 groups of 3 with the top all into the 'A' along with one best placed runner up

all other teams into the 'B' championship. 11am starts for the games on a sunday morning. some very tough groups
I see that. Cargin and LD down to play - surely they should have fixtures for the teams not involved instead of those 2? with many not playing this weekend - like the way they r running it instead of straight knockout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2019, 03:06:56 PM
st endas and ourselves are both in it whilst still being in the ulster hurling competitions. Its just one of them things that happens.

extremely poor timing for the competition yet again imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on October 08, 2019, 03:50:27 PM
St endas were actually kicked outt've the competition last year despite having an all ireland campaign.
Its just the way these things fall, fulfill fixtures and hope there isnt too much of an overlap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 08, 2019, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 08, 2019, 09:27:59 AM
Harsh on St Brigids.  Got off to a horrible start and found it hard to break down a resolute defence. I don't think you could say players choked or didnt turn up. they got close and then Cargin got a breakaway point to seal the win.  These things happen, but to a man they gave their all.

In the Seniors LD looked 'up for it' while Cargin looked very flat.  The last few mins Cargin stepped it up a gear and LD collapsed.  The questions should be will Cargin be as poor again for such a long period or can LD start and maintain their pressure from the outset?  Makes for an intriguing match.
I previously said St Brids choked in recent minor showpiece & had habit of losing finals. I stand corrected on this as it was just 2 finals but I'm sure numerous semis have been lost as well when they were expected to progress.
However, again they were the odds on favourites and failed to perform on the big day, ie choked. Its just my observation and opinion.
The favoured tactics of '' goals win games'' at all costs came up short & there did not appear to be a credible Plan B from the sideline. Perhaps they were too accustomed to winning that it was too big a challenge to come from behind despite their undoubted skill, flair and pace.
In work it was obvious that West Belfast clubs are envious of St Brids massive success at juvenile level over past 10 years and also of their perceived extensive financial resources.
A lot of clubs have not been fielding juvenile teams due to falling numbers while St Brids have had 2 teams in juvenile leagues @10/12/14
Despite the large player numbers and good support they seem to suffer stage fright at the business end of juvenile level...their day will come no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 08, 2019, 08:08:16 PM
Belfast as a whole needs to get their fingers out. A potential South West treble in the Football and 2/3 outta in the hurling won by NA clubs and people would argue that Gort Na Mona shouldn't of been in the Junior. Minor Football A + B won by SW clubs and Minor hurling won by a NA team. GAA in the city struggling? The good things outta the city this year was MR2 finally reaching his potential and Colm McDonald performances in the big games.  ;) :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 08, 2019, 09:05:37 PM
There is no doubt st brigids have been a powerhouse in underage football in Belfast for the last decade so it is surprising they haven't won the minor championship. Not sure why they can't get over the line but certainly the resources r there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2019, 09:25:12 PM
They have at least one u21 title and did pretty well in Ulster too. Pretty harsh on a bunch of u18s I would have thought and the last few comments sound a bit on the jealous side. They were 5th in the league so hardly raging hot favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 08, 2019, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 08, 2019, 10:16:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 08, 2019, 08:08:16 PM
Belfast as a whole needs to get their fingers out. A potential South West treble in the Football and 2/3 outta in the hurling won by NA clubs and people would argue that Gort Na Mona shouldn't of been in the Junior. Minor Football A + B won by SW clubs and Minor hurling won by a NA team. GAA in the city struggling? The good things outta the city this year was MR2 finally reaching his potential and Colm McDonald performances in the big games.  ;) :-X
We had this nonsense a couple of years ago when SW did the clean sweep. Football was dead in the city. SW patted themselves on the back. Such a progressive divisional board. The future of Antrim football lay in the SW. The following year they never won a single football title as they all went to Belfast clubs.
But sure, if it keeps you warm at night.

Ffs make it a bit harder for me to get a bite lol..

I'm trying to lighten up an otherwise wet and awful windy Tuesday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 08, 2019, 11:40:06 PM
Not sure where to start with tbh.

1 The club is called St Brigids / Naomh Brid. Not St Brids

2. 'odds on favourites' - with who? I'm not a gambler but where there odds available for this game? I doubt it. Certainly no one in Naomh Brid was certain of success against a very good Cargin team. Hopeful yes, but thats different.

3. "West Belfast clubs are envious of St Brids massive success at juvenile level over past 10 years" -but didn't you just say the club hasn't had success? So what massive success are you talking about?

4. 'extensive financial resources' - what evidence or relevance is this? Do you imagine the U12's are getting paid in haribos or something?

5. 'A lot of clubs have not been fielding juvenile teams due to falling numbers while St Brids have had 2 teams in juvenile leagues @10/12/14'

Apart from the fact that there is no U10 league, being able to field two teams in most age grades is purely down to volunteerism, hard work and maximising the playing pool. All good things surely?

6. "Despite the large player numbers and good support they seem to suffer stage fright at the business end of juvenile level" - come on pick a side, is it stage fright at the business end of juvenile level, or is it 'massive juvenile success?' It can't be both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 09, 2019, 08:35:25 AM
Some very silly comments about this Minor final which make me laugh reading it.

Its a final, both teams are there on merit and fully deserve to be in the final and therefore its a fair chance that either of them will win it. So if Naomh Brid didnt win its probably down to the fact that the other team was better than them. Thats life.

we didn't win a minor title for 36 years and it was down to the fact we weren't good enough. we lost a few finals but we met a better team in the final.

Ive no doubt that Naomh Brid will win the minor title at some point. i seen it first hand last season in the U21 final the quality that exists in the club and they will no doubt produce it

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2019, 10:32:25 AM
Yeah - move on children
Anyone know why the County Provincial championship draw is made 8/9 months in advance of the matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 09, 2019, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 09, 2019, 10:32:25 AM
Yeah - move on children
Anyone know why the County Provincial championship draw is made 8/9 months in advance of the matches?

To take our minds off the Antrim minor championship final result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 10, 2019, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 09, 2019, 11:19:22 PM
What age are you allowed to play u21,who are favs,Rossa,Dunloy,St Brigid's?
minor up I would think , one age group up rule. Maybe add Cargin to that favorites list...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 11, 2019, 08:42:55 AM
last year of minor is the youngest you can be to play U21
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2019, 10:27:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2019, 08:42:55 AM
last year of minor is the youngest you can be to play U21
is that new? Seems harsh on lads who are 18 in January
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 11, 2019, 12:34:25 PM
U21 age group ages appear strange. To be eligible the younger players must be final year minor ie not 17 years old. This my have an impact on weaker teams being able to field
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 11, 2019, 12:57:06 PM
The amalgamations at u21 are a bit of a farce too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 11, 2019, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 11, 2019, 12:57:06 PM
The amalgamations at u21 are a bit of a farce too.

who are they at this level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KeyboardWarriorRepellent on October 11, 2019, 11:44:21 PM
Whats this live stream gonna be like?. A first for Antrim lads.. all good or any negative vibes from the usual crew.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 12, 2019, 07:15:58 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 11, 2019, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 11, 2019, 12:57:06 PM
The amalgamations at u21 are a bit of a farce too.

who are they at this level

Not sure. Usually find out when you're playing a team and you realise 5/6 of the best players from several clubs are lined out for opposition as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 12, 2019, 09:49:26 AM
Dunloy Realist is that last yr minor rule an AntriM rule or a Croke one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2019, 10:21:02 AM
Aye new ground for Antrim, a free live stream of the county final replay. Sean Kelly has contracted in Jerome Quinn video for the day so the standard should be top class. The PR surrounding Antrim Gaa this year has been taken to a whole new level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on October 12, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Peter john on October 11, 2019, 01:33:00 PM
Next year that 17 Yr old will be able to play Sen/Res but not u21 this year, only in antrim, muppets

Not only in Antrim but in all counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
The idea of a live stream has been put forward before.. County board said there was no money available to fund it. Hopefully today goes well and we get a decent game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 12, 2019, 02:34:56 PM
Best of luck to both Cargin & Lamh Dearg this afternoon. Great championship to date this year.
Hope we get a good game with extra time & penalties!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 05:30:49 PM
Who won??? Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: An Watcher on October 12, 2019, 05:33:25 PM
All square in injury time I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: An Watcher on October 12, 2019, 06:09:46 PM
Extra time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 12, 2019, 06:18:52 PM
Congrats to Cargin. What a championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 07:26:56 PM
What was finucane doing for those two goals?? He really will be kicking himself.

Entertaining game - Murray's, Tomas McCann and Mckeown maybe the pick. Shivers and gribben have big futures too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 07:37:10 PM
Another fire to fight for the chairman to according to Facebook
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 07:56:02 PM
Jesus. Now the football will be peripheral.

(FYI a disabled Cargin supporter with a pass seemed to be denied access to the car park and then didn't get to the game).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 12, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 07:37:10 PM
Another fire to fight for the chairman to according to Facebook

Too obsessed with social media and likes

No doubt there will be a photo op with the disabled supporter in a few days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2019, 08:13:45 PM
An epic battle today, expect Cargin gang to be on soon enough giving out about the referee - their abuse from the crowd was in turn hilarious and pretty obscene. That was a very hard match to ref and he got the big calls spot on. Fair play to both sides, both contributed hugely to a very dramatic final. Some of the scores today were outrageous. Some championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 12, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 07:37:10 PM
Another fire to fight for the chairman to according to Facebook

Too obsessed with social media and likes

No doubt there will be a photo op with the disabled supporter in a few days

Obsessed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2019, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2019, 08:13:45 PM
An epic battle today, expect Cargin gang to be on soon enough giving out about the referee - their abuse from the crowd was in turn hilarious and pretty obscene. That was a very hard match to ref and he got the big calls spot on. Fair play to both sides, both contributed hugely to a very dramatic final. Some of the scores today were outrageous. Some championship.

Thought the ref did well. Fair play to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2019, 08:13:45 PM
An epic battle today, expect Cargin gang to be on soon enough giving out about the referee - their abuse from the crowd was in turn hilarious and pretty obscene. That was a very hard match to ref and he got the big calls spot on. Fair play to both sides, both contributed hugely to a very dramatic final. Some of the scores today were outrageous. Some championship.

Yeah hard game to ref. Threatened to boil over a few times but kept under control. All in all did not too bad to be fair. Some fans will always complain about the ref.

Some defining moments in the game.  Ld could have settled it first period of extra time but missed some but then Cargin 4 points up in normal time could have closed it out too so you could argue for both teams. Ld will be sore about the first half goals though.

Very entertaining all in all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2019, 08:13:45 PM
An epic battle today, expect Cargin gang to be on soon enough giving out about the referee - their abuse from the crowd was in turn hilarious and pretty obscene. That was a very hard match to ref and he got the big calls spot on. Fair play to both sides, both contributed hugely to a very dramatic final. Some of the scores today were outrageous. Some championship.

Got big calls alright but not sure about his watch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 08:25:53 PM
A lot of messing about was going on so I think plenty of injury time was needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2019, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 08:25:53 PM
A lot of messing about was going on so I think plenty of injury time was needed.

Over 4 mins in the second period of ET
Seemed long
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2019, 08:36:38 PM
Between Cargin being awarded a free and actually taking it there was a full 2 mins, thats just one play. Thought the time added on at end of normal time and ET was correct. The Cargin ones beside us screaming 'cheat!' at the ref were hilarious. I asked them for one example of what he got wrong and they clammed up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2019, 08:43:31 PM
Aye normal time was probably ok
The 4 minutes at the end of a 10 minute period just seemed strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2019, 08:52:24 PM
I thought it was about right there was that much messing about going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on October 12, 2019, 09:29:01 PM
Ref was good in my opinion. Terrific game with Lamh Dhearg's mini-comebacks each time they conceded a goal a joy to watch. Enthralling contest that could easily have gone to penalties. Well done to Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 12, 2019, 09:41:41 PM
Great game, some super scores, Cargin really clicked in extra time and played some super football.  Thought LD were better team until cargin got to grips with their midfield in 2nd half and then imposed themselves thereafter.  Conor murray and tomas mccann were unplayable today.     Thought additional minutes in normal and extra time were very strange. 

Ps what numpty thought it was a good idea to turn a disabled man with a ticket away from the game??  Surely anyone with any cop on would realise that was a) wrong and b) would reflect poorly on our occasion??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: under the bar on October 13, 2019, 12:30:10 AM
Any chance that the team from the Belfast can teach their supporters to pronouce the named of the club correctly? "Lamb Derg" makes everyone else cringe ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 13, 2019, 01:06:58 AM
I was neutral on the result until midweek until I seen maritin lynch spouting to the press that they would definitely win the replay.

I have no love for Cargin (mainly due to their "fans") but glad they won the replay after Lynch's arrogance / gamesmanship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2019, 03:03:53 AM
I thought injury time was fine. Normal time injury time just about covered how long the Cargin goalie was down for!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2019, 07:49:16 AM
Interesting way of looking at that Stiffler. I took the opposite view though. Heres a manager with 6 tough games played, weariness now a major factor, just after having lost a five point advantage and a lot of people thinking his team had just missed the boat. What would you do if a reporter called asking for a few quotes?

Lynch knew the quote could easily backfire but he took an opportunity to breath a bit of belief back into his players. He took that one for the team was the way I saw the comment. Id expect 9/10 good managers to do the same!

Epic effort by both clubs, great advert for Antrim football, commiseration to LD, and well done Carragan one more time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 13, 2019, 08:15:30 AM
I think you give mr lynch too much credit BS.  Some people just love a microphone. He gave cargin's teamtalk for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2019, 09:29:37 AM
What did Lynch say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 13, 2019, 09:59:19 AM
Perhaps we're just used to more humility 🤷‍♂️
Im sure LD will be back hungry again next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 13, 2019, 10:02:42 AM
The Chairman's apology statement to the disabled supporter is going down like a lead balloon.  The question on my mind is he says Belfast City Council wouldn't allow car access after 2pm.  What's that all about?  And no matter who sets the rules, are we seriously telling disabled patrons they must be in the ground TWO HOURS before throw-in, while the rest of us finish our dinner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 13, 2019, 10:49:01 AM
Best championship in living memory
Surely 5 players from LD , PG1 and Cargin is a must for Lenny. The big lad Dunne from LD and the big minor from Cargin would be top of my list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 13, 2019, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2019, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 13, 2019, 09:59:19 AM
Perhaps we're just used to more humility 🤷‍♂️
Im sure LD will be back hungry again next year
I think you are just looking a reason to be offended.

You'd be wrong again then

There was nothing offensive about his comments, only needless  bravado.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 13, 2019, 10:58:23 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 13, 2019, 10:49:01 AM
Best championship in living memory
Surely 5 players from LD , PG1 and Cargin is a must for Lenny. The big lad Dunne from LD and the big minor from Cargin would be top of my list

Yes, championship certainly felt a lot more even this year..  LD will surely have more representation at the county next year.  Who knows about cargin??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2019, 11:16:14 AM
Sweeney midfield for a very good Dublin club side. Must be doing alright. Ld some good wee players but might be a bit physically small for county is the only thing. Gribben from Cargin and Mckeown ld very good but a bit small.

Shivers a bit young yet but looks very useful.

Also would be good to see Tomas McCann back. Still got it as they say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2019, 11:19:57 AM
LD had 5 representatives on last years panel. (Murrays, Lynch, Quinn and Eoin Mc Keown). You could easily add another couple of names to that. A fit Pearse Fitz top of my list, and Marc Jordan others I'd be keen on. If every player in the county made themselves available we would be out of div 4 in a flash.

Im sure Lenny has got a lot of new names of his own now to consider, hopefully the best will get called up and accept the offer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2019, 11:25:59 AM
Tomas surely ITG sure hes only early thirties plenty of football in him. And yes Mark Sweeney too...playing better than ever now. Another couple of top quality marquee forwards are Conor Small and Adam Loughran. Pure quality and plenty of youth. Id be fairly sure those two are priorities on Lennys list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 13, 2019, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 12, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Peter john on October 11, 2019, 01:33:00 PM
Next year that 17 Yr old will be able to play Sen/Res but not u21 this year, only in antrim, muppets

Not only in Antrim but in all counties.
new rule?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 13, 2019, 05:19:58 PM
Dinner at 2pm on a Saturday... most of us still be eating our lunch.

Nothing to do with the chairman, but at least he is trying to explain the situation rather than shy away from it.

Quote from: Sportacus on October 13, 2019, 10:02:42 AM
The Chairman's apology statement to the disabled supporter is going down like a lead balloon.  The question on my mind is he says Belfast City Council wouldn't allow car access after 2pm.  What's that all about?  And no matter who sets the rules, are we seriously telling disabled patrons they must be in the ground TWO HOURS before throw-in, while the rest of us finish our dinner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 14, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
it was a fantastic football championship this year, Cargin coming out in top, well deserved winners as they had the better overall quality at the end. Cargins bench won it for them and I have to say the management of it as well. LD deserve massive credit for the way they played over the entire campaign. They will feel that they blew it last weekend being unable to see out the final ten minutes of the game, that will be the game that will hunt them, they had a championship in their hands and couldn't see it out. Felt sorry for them last week. Cargin could have been accused of the same thing trying to defend a four point lead in injury time of normal time on Saturday, but no one considered the refs contribution in all of it. He did the opposite of the ref the week before who didn't add on time for two black cards and stoppages in injury time. And that's at the heart of the problem with refs, you don't have any consistency even with such basics like that, they don't help themselves in any way. There were some brilliant passages of play and scores as well. I can't understand how LD remained so fresh over all those games, demonstrating no fatigue at all and literally having no bench. I would imagine there are few in Cargin would have thought they couldn't win extra time without Paul, Gerard and especially Mick Mc Cann. But it didn't hinder Cargin. I wonder how long they can go on, quite a few younger players making their way unto the team with Shivers starting at Mf on Saturday. The find for LD this season has to be Jordan, he played some ball, surely has to be invited to the county squad. The two Murrays, although Ryan was v poor most of the championship and Lynch the only county standard I seen. Rice did well but only club standard. Cargin, Croizer, T McCann, M Mc Cann and C Bradley at county standard for me. Delighted to see football in the front window again in our county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 14, 2019, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol
I'm hearing one team yesterday had only 14 b cos they couldn't play 17 year olds and another used 17 yr olds to field. Do these things not get discussed at county meetings?
The chairman has shown this year common sense should override rules - time to step in and end this ban on 1st year minors at least for the knockout phase
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 14, 2019, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol

Why were they even togged out then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 14, 2019, 01:26:09 PM
Its madness, my own club had to withdraw from the competition over it. Then not allowed to amalgamate to give the remaining lads football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 14, 2019, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 14, 2019, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol

Why were they even togged out then

Truthfully, to make things look good and help in the warm up.

ive total sympathy for them as its a silly rule
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2019, 02:42:23 PM
Ive never heard anyone ever say Justy Mick or Tomas were not county standard. Youre stating the obvious there DK. But if they gave 9 months to Antrim from Nov onwards they might not have the freshness they have atm. County football a big commitment, those boys know that....question is...have they got the hunger for it still? Thats the real question!

LD will be kicking themselves when they review the replay. PC looked a banker to score a goal but looked to have too much time on his hands and scuffed his effort. The one man you would have put the house on. Another 3 points were missed due to a superb near post save by John Mc Nabb...but go onto Antrim twitter feed now and see that Rice should have tossed the ball across the square to an unmarked Mc Crudden for a tap in. Theres 6 points just there that made a significant difference.

DK is right when he says Cargins bench (greater strength in depth) got them over the line. Kevin Mc Shane, Pat Shivers, Ciaran Close all played important roles when introduced. Now that football is enjoying a revival of sorts it would be good if Cargin can get through a couple of rounds in the Ulster Championship and show that Antrim Football is not as far away as some people think.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2019, 03:04:43 PM
BS and you are forgetting to mention two stinker goals which should never have been conceded!

Yeah Cargin had a much better bench. Close has still got it.Shivers was on from the start BS lol.(I suspect you just mean from the first game to the second mind..)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2019, 03:41:38 PM
Exactly ITG when things like this happen you just know its not going to be your day. 12 point turnaround right there. Credit to Cargin though, three top trophys for their dinner dance...its their year again, without question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Cargin had always a good outlet at FF for high balls in - between Magill who's still a handful and Shivers who looks like he could be very good.

LD struggled past the 45 or so till they put Murray in. While he was great he's not an outlet for the high balls the way Magill etc is.

I thought Tomas McCann took the game by the scruff of the neck and really was the catalyst for Cargin winning.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2019, 04:17:35 PM
Cargin kept their composure throughout and in Michael Magill a matchwinner on the edge of the square. Thought Ciaran Bradley picked him out really well for his second goal. Cargin should be nicely battle hardened for their tie with Derrygonnelly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2019, 05:09:04 PM
I think Derrygonnelly are handy enough so I think they are in for a battle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 15, 2019, 08:39:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol

Decent game in wet conditions.  Dunloy worthy of the win.  Although I thought you might have blew it first half.  You had all the posession but didn't do much with it going forward.  We played poorly but I thought we'd come out second half and go a bit more direct.  Didn't happen.


Dunloy far more clinical up front 2nd half and deservedly got their goals to win it.


Black card issue happened at a bad time for us too.
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 15, 2019, 09:35:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 14, 2019, 03:41:38 PM
Exactly ITG when things like this happen you just know its not going to be your day. 12 point turnaround right there. Credit to Cargin though, three top trophys for their dinner dance...its their year again, without question.

Lol BS, i hope you're not suggesting that LD should have won by 10 points on saturday and begrudging Cargin their victory??  Ifs, buts and maybes.  Teams react to different scenarios - LD could have been cagier if they hadn't conceded a goal early and needed to be brave following that.  Cargin may have chased harder if they were a few points down - like in extra time where they didn't panic, played the better football, and got the win.  Thats competition and thats life, ebbs and flows, action and reaction.  Two good sides who will provide an interesting battle next year. 

Ulster, as always, will be a gauge of Antrim football standards.  As a well travelled man BS, how much do you know about Derrygonnelly's strengths and weaknesses? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 15, 2019, 09:55:48 AM
Spike BS is blinded by his desire for Casemenst to do well. In his head he rationalises that LD could have won by that margin so he can convince himself and Casements players they could have won that championship this year or even next. The absence of logic in many of his posts is obvious, but I do love his optimism. I prefer people who see the glass half full to half empty.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2019, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 15, 2019, 08:39:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol

Decent game in wet conditions.  Dunloy worthy of the win.  Although I thought you might have blew it first half.  You had all the posession but didn't do much with it going forward.  We played poorly but I thought we'd come out second half and go a bit more direct.  Didn't happen.


Dunloy far more clinical up front 2nd half and deservedly got their goals to win it.


Black card issue happened at a bad time for us too.


Whos the no 11 for yourselves? very good footballer. A lot seemed to go through him.

the lad in the corner, no.15 i think he was, hit a peace of a score towards the end of the game as well.

That new rule this year has killed a lot teams this season and i heard some teams played 17 year olds at the weekend without knowing this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 15, 2019, 10:44:42 AM
Its not a new rule. Its been like this for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 15, 2019, 11:02:54 AM
Ask your club Secretary. This rule has been about for donkeys. Maybe some clubs are only now adhering to this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 15, 2019, 11:26:10 AM
Posts about u21 are disheartening re the inconsistencies about playing first year minors. From previous posts some clubs found it difficult to field more than 15 and others have not entered a team. Brollys recent article about drop out rates should sound alarm bells at this level.
No doubt those clubs that played ineligible young lads will be booted out of the competition as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 15, 2019, 11:34:21 AM
Doesn't make any sense. A player in middle of October can't play U21 but come January 1st can play Senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on October 15, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
The rule about 17 year olds not being able to play was only brought in last year. It has not been about for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2019, 11:59:05 AM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on October 15, 2019, 10:44:42 AM
Its not a new rule. Its been like this for years.

It hasnt. its only in this year. we played fellas in first year of minor in last years U21 football & hurling championship. Id think someone would of pointed out we were in the wrong before we won the hurling and reached the football final.

Its affected alot of clubs this year in both codes. Ballycastle didnt field in the hurling due to lack of nos due to the new rule and this was the team we beat in the final the season prior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 15, 2019, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2019, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 15, 2019, 08:39:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol

Decent game in wet conditions.  Dunloy worthy of the win.  Although I thought you might have blew it first half.  You had all the posession but didn't do much with it going forward.  We played poorly but I thought we'd come out second half and go a bit more direct.  Didn't happen.


Dunloy far more clinical up front 2nd half and deservedly got their goals to win it.


Black card issue happened at a bad time for us too.


Whos the no 11 for yourselves? very good footballer. A lot seemed to go through him.


That would be Adam Loughran.  Definitely county potential.  Think he's still only 18 or 19 too.  Was a big part of the St. Ronan's Hogan Cup winning squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2019, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 15, 2019, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2019, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 15, 2019, 08:39:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 14, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
seen the new rule change yesterday at U21 level in action. we were down in Aghagallon with the 21's and they had a player black carded. off he went and no one went on.

we said to the lads 'here you know that wasnt a red and you can bring on a player' to which they said they cant cause the the subs were all first year minors and they only had 15 players.

thats total nonsense of a rule change esp when you have 4 lads sitting there and clubs struggling with nos.

decent game between ourselves and some good scores taken. happy with our performance as it was the first time we had met up since the county final last year lol

Decent game in wet conditions.  Dunloy worthy of the win.  Although I thought you might have blew it first half.  You had all the posession but didn't do much with it going forward.  We played poorly but I thought we'd come out second half and go a bit more direct.  Didn't happen.


Dunloy far more clinical up front 2nd half and deservedly got their goals to win it.


Black card issue happened at a bad time for us too.


Whos the no 11 for yourselves? very good footballer. A lot seemed to go through him.


That would be Adam Loughran.  Definitely county potential.  Think he's still only 18 or 19 too.  Was a big part of the St. Ronan's Hogan Cup winning squad.

Absolutely. really good player, good feet on him and can move the ball really well. lots of potential with the lad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2019, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Footblock on October 15, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
The rule about 17 year olds not being able to play was only brought in last year. It has not been about for years.
do you have the details of it? can't see it on county website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 15, 2019, 03:56:38 PM
Belfast GAA - club secretary would probably be best option for this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2019, 04:25:51 PM
Done that big ball - he get a computer says no , just get On with it sort of reply
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 15, 2019, 05:06:06 PM
Its a directive from Croke Park, i'd imagine very little Antrim officials can do about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 15, 2019, 07:41:07 PM
Treoraí  Oifigiúil   Cuid I
Rule 6.17      Age Grades

Effective from January 1st 2018, the above Section shall read:

Adult: - Club Be Over 17 years - Inter-County Be Over 18 years

Under 21: - Club Be Under 21 years and Over 16 years - Inter-County Hurling Be Under 21 years and Over 18 years

Under 20: - Inter-County Football Be Under 20 years and Over 18 years Minor

(Under 18): - Club Be Under 18 and Over 14 years Minor

(Under 17): - Inter-County Be Under 17 and Over 15 years

Under 16: Be Under 16 years and Over 12 years

Under 14: Be Under 14 years and Over 10 years

Under 12: Be Under 12 years and Over 9 years

To be "Under" an age shall mean that the player shall celebrate the Upper Limit birthday (e.g. 21st. for Under 21 Grade) on the 1st. January of the Championship Year or on a later date. To be "Over" an age shall mean that the player shall have celebrated the Lower Limit birthday (e.g. 17th. to participate in Adult Grades (Club)) prior to the 1st. January of the Championship Year. Adult shall include Senior, Intermediate and Junior Grades.

Girls may participate only up to and including the Under 12 Grade.

Note: In the interests of the avoidance of any doubt regarding Age Grade eligibility, Championship Year shall mean the Calendar Year in which the Competition is commenced. In the event that the Competition is completed in a subsequent Calendar Year, such circumstances shall not be construed so as to allow a player who was ineligible, by reason of age, at the date of the commencement of the Competition to play in the Competition at any time up to and including the date of its conclusion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 15, 2019, 08:40:15 PM
first year minors CANT play senior/ reserve

Quote from: Peter john on October 15, 2019, 10:52:32 AM
It's only in this year typ, as I said how can a 17 Yr not play u21this year against an u21, but can play sen/res next yr next year against an opponent aged between 18-50 fs, Antrim County board are muppets
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 16, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
Under 21: - Club Be Under 21 years and Over 16 years

That would mean a 17 year old can play U21, i,e U17 this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2019, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 16, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
Under 21: - Club Be Under 21 years and Over 16 years

That would mean a 17 year old can play U21, i,e U17 this year.

that was my taking from that as well.

is this the official rule then or have antrim their own rule?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 16, 2019, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2019, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 16, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
Under 21: - Club Be Under 21 years and Over 16 years

That would mean a 17 year old can play U21, i,e U17 this year.

that was my taking from that as well.

is this the official rule then or have antrim their own rule?

antrim made there own rule.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 16, 2019, 11:06:10 AM
 https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-chiefs-to-reconsider-u21-club-restriction-on-u17s-37867059.html
The official guide I posted was from 2018.
This is an article from 2019. Not sure if there was any resolution and I still believe first years minors CANT play u21. DR mentioned team pulling out of hurling because of this. I suppose this issue should have been addressed earlier this year.
On separate point if a team turns up with 14 players are the opposition to match this or is it deemed 'Championship' and can line out 15?
An even match up on players might help those struggling to field especially in the grading league stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
yeah Ballycastle were forced to pull out of the hurling this year due to a lack of nos and not being able to play the first year minors was the main factor.

I know that teams can play with a player down if they want but the opposition isnt obliged to do the same. its only out of sportsmanship they would do it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2019, 01:35:38 PM
How many posters played senior at the age of 16? Was your welfare affected?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 16, 2019, 01:52:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
yeah Ballycastle were forced to pull out of the hurling this year due to a lack of nos and not being able to play the first year minors was the main factor.

I know that teams can play with a player down if they want but the opposition isnt obliged to do the same. its only out of sportsmanship they would do it.
Take it out of the teams hands and allow 13 against 13 if needed in the group stages would be a small change by the county that could make a big difference - common sense piece
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2019, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 16, 2019, 01:52:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
yeah Ballycastle were forced to pull out of the hurling this year due to a lack of nos and not being able to play the first year minors was the main factor.

I know that teams can play with a player down if they want but the opposition isnt obliged to do the same. its only out of sportsmanship they would do it.
Take it out of the teams hands and allow 13 against 13 if needed in the group stages would be a small change by the county that could make a big difference - common sense piece

ive seen in done in camogie league games in D2 & 3 where teams are stuggling to field so they are allowed to field with 13 if needs be. The other team isnt under a rule to field 13 but we always did it to ensure games were played.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2019, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2019, 01:35:38 PM
How many posters played senior at the age of 16? Was your welfare affected?

Avoiding the broken glass and blue bag brigade in the Falls Park was a cracking learning curve..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2019, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2019, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2019, 01:35:38 PM
How many posters played senior at the age of 16? Was your welfare affected?

Avoiding the broken glass and blue bag brigade in the Falls Park was a cracking learning curve..

Toughened you up! My only ever season at senior football was when I was 18! Came on against MacD's at Casement and Tully was their big player, elbowed me straight away off the ball and welcomed me onto the pitch! Learning curves were very steep..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 16, 2019, 06:23:19 PM
So have we had teams competing in and possibly winning U21 over the last number of years using ineligible players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 16, 2019, 06:25:49 PM
And if so do we need to put an '*' beside their names on the cups?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2019, 10:37:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2019, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2019, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2019, 01:35:38 PM
How many posters played senior at the age of 16? Was your welfare affected?

Avoiding the broken glass and blue bag brigade in the Falls Park was a cracking learning curve..

Toughened you up! My only ever season at senior football was when I was 18! Came on against MacD's at Casement and Tully was their big player, elbowed me straight away off the ball and welcomed me onto the pitch! Learning curves were very steep..

Without doubt, did me no harm at all. It was a tough apprenticeship but sure why would we change it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 17, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
im hearing the antrim footballers are meeting up for a session on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 17, 2019, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 17, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
im hearing the antrim footballers are meeting up for a session on Saturday.

Harp Bar?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2019, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2019, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 17, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
im hearing the antrim footballers are meeting up for a session on Saturday.

Harp Bar?

Why does everything in Antrim GAa have to suit the McCooeys ffs.. no pubs in the SW, after all it's the home of Football in Antrim.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2019, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 17, 2019, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2019, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 17, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
im hearing the antrim footballers are meeting up for a session on Saturday.

Harp Bar?

Why does everything in Antrim GAa have to suit the McCooeys ffs.. no pubs in the SW, after all it's the home of Football in Antrim.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The big lights of the city! Ruination of many a great prospect!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2019, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2019, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 17, 2019, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2019, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 17, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
im hearing the antrim footballers are meeting up for a session on Saturday.

Harp Bar?

Why does everything in Antrim GAa have to suit the McCooeys ffs.. no pubs in the SW, after all it's the home of Football in Antrim.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The big lights of the city! Ruination of many a great prospect!

Very true!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 17, 2019, 09:15:02 PM
Beer, burgers & bad women in Belfast. The decline of Antrim football since 1969, all summed up in a single sentence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2019, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 17, 2019, 09:15:02 PM
Beer, burgers & bad women in Belfast. The decline of Antrim football since 1969, all summed up in a single sentence.

They have beer, burgers and bad women in other counties too you know...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 18, 2019, 09:50:19 AM
Aye but their athletes don't party @ Paul Gascoigne levels though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 18, 2019, 01:13:29 PM
Any news of new additions to the county panel....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 18, 2019, 08:15:19 PM
Eamon Fyfe from Con Magees is the only one I heard of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2019, 08:27:40 PM
What is mcgarry from aldergrove like? Is he county material?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2019, 08:43:29 PM
Good player surely ITG. Couldnt be far away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 18, 2019, 08:57:57 PM
No

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 18, 2019, 08:27:40 PM
What is mcgarry from aldergrove like? Is he county material?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 19, 2019, 07:50:13 AM
Quote from: Peter john on October 18, 2019, 09:36:14 PM
Eamonn fyfe is not county standard even at div 4 level, and for what it's worth, commitment would be an issue there

He was on the panel a few years ago before he got a placement in the states. Played on the Queens sigerson team before injury struck so I don't know what you're basing your statement on.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2019, 05:35:48 PM
Rumour has it that the refs have been told to ask players for ID to check their ages in tomorrow's u21 matches.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 19, 2019, 07:17:23 PM
Well BFast GAA - if only that had happened last year. I also heard that because ineligible players were played last year that 2018 championship will be expunged. Pure chaos again...what will happen to teams that played ineligible players last weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2019, 07:41:46 PM
The team sheets would show up any issues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2019, 07:53:23 PM
Only if the correct ones go In
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 19, 2019, 08:49:16 PM
Glad the County Chairman spoke against 2nd Tier at Congress. It won't be good for Antrim.  Our problems at County level are our own fault, not the system.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 19, 2019, 08:50:17 PM
I cant see teams playing illegal players, surely if they are caught the sanctions imposed wouldn't be worth it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2019, 09:12:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2019, 07:53:23 PM
Only if the correct ones go In

I can't see a club sec allowing that to happen, as it's them and the illegal player that will suffer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 19, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
Illegal is probably the wrong word, likely players were ineligible due to their age. As MR2 says the team sheets for 2019 and 2018 can be checked and teams sanctioned as appropriate. Don't believe this was deliberately done but thems the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2019, 09:17:55 PM
I'm not up to speed on this but I'd imagine at the start of the year and during it clubs have county representatives that attend county meetings. Surely there is directions on new rules and any other business.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
I see Gregory Walsh back in the hotspot today in Glenavy, superb to see. A proper gent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2019, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
I see Gregory Walsh back in the hotspot today in Glenavy, superb to see. A proper gent.

Some achievement!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2019, 08:55:15 PM
Derrygonnelly were good today, Cargin didn't show up. Two very soft goals was ultimately the winning and losing of this game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 21, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
whats cargins record in Ulster? from memory i dont remember them winning any games this past few years in Ulster. I was in Armagh when they played Cross and that was the last Ulster match i seen them in.

I dont think our record is that great since St Galls last were in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2019, 10:42:20 AM
Cargin committed the cardinal sin in Ulster - conceding two comical goals early on against a well drilled counterattcking team.  Looked to be a few walking wounded from last weeks final also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 21, 2019, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2019, 10:42:20 AM
Cargin committed the cardinal sin in Ulster - conceding two comical goals early on against a well drilled counterattcking team.  Looked to be a few walking wounded from last weeks final also
Michael McCann didn't start - probably best club player in Antrim - massive Blow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 21, 2019, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2019, 10:42:20 AM
Cargin committed the cardinal sin in Ulster - conceding two comical goals early on against a well drilled counterattcking team.  Looked to be a few walking wounded from last weeks final also
Michael McCann didn't start - probably best club player in Antrim - massive Blow

true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 23, 2019, 01:45:46 PM
The Irish News club Team of the year looks on the money - wouldn't it be Great if all 15 were in county panel for starters ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 23, 2019, 01:55:16 PM
Can you post it on here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2019, 03:37:55 PM
Had a brief look at it earlier. From memory and subject to correction.....John Mc Nabb,
Kobo, Marty Kane, Decky Lynch
James Laverty, Niall Delargy, Ben Rice,
Mick Mc Cann, Marc Jordan,
Eoin Mc Keown, Paul Mc Cann, Conall Delargy,
Tomas, Conor Murray, Paddy Cunningham.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 23, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
no micko or croizer  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2019, 03:45:07 PM
Those two had great seasons to be fair. Dermot Mc Aleese had too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2019, 03:46:56 PM
Dermots got a call up from Lenny so hopefully he can kick on in Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 23, 2019, 03:48:08 PM
a fantastic player to, 3 number 6's that could slot in there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 23, 2019, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2019, 03:46:56 PM
Dermots got a call up from Lenny so hopefully he can kick on in Saffron.

Anybody else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2019, 06:31:36 PM
Id imagine Lenny is still piecing together the new faces he is interested in freshening up his panel. Early days as you cant train collectively for a month or so yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 24, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Took a run over to the Queens v Poly game. Young Fyfe well worth a look.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2019, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 24, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Took a run over to the Queens v Poly game. Young Fyfe well worth a look.

Don't let Peter John see that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
getting close now to the end of the U21 group games. this week should see the shape of who will go through on top into the A and the teams for the B championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2019, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
getting close now to the end of the U21 group games. this week should see the shape of who will go through on top into the A and the teams for the B championship

You'd fancy your chances in the top grade surely..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2019, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
getting close now to the end of the U21 group games. this week should see the shape of who will go through on top into the A and the teams for the B championship
Do teams get put out or does Everyone get a knock out game???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 24, 2019, 09:10:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2019, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
getting close now to the end of the U21 group games. this week should see the shape of who will go through on top into the A and the teams for the B championship
Do teams get put out or does Everyone get a knock out game???

Group winners and 2 best runners up are in quarters of A championship
Rest are in the B
I think anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 24, 2019, 09:51:31 PM
I think there are 19 teams, with all group winners plus 2 best runners up in A, the rest in B quarters with 3 lowest teams out. How the 3 lowest are deceived on I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 24, 2019, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
getting close now to the end of the U21 group games. this week should see the shape of who will go through on top into the A and the teams for the B championship

You'd fancy your chances in the top grade surely..

Id be confident that we can get back there again. Theres some really good strong teams there in St Brigid's, Rossa, Creggan/Cargin, Ballymena that anyone could lift it this year.

It all depends if we can get a result against Glenravel next week and then the draw there after
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2019, 09:46:47 AM
Tomas McCann back for the county. That's good news.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pearse Blue on October 25, 2019, 10:40:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2019, 09:46:47 AM
Tomas McCann back for the county. That's good news.
Welcome to the discussion board young McCann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2019, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 25, 2019, 10:40:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2019, 09:46:47 AM
Tomas McCann back for the county. That's good news.
Welcome to the discussion board young McCann

;D

I wasn't quite as good a footballer sadly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2019, 08:44:20 AM
Paddy Cunningham back now too. Didn't see that coming.

*no I am not paddy Cunningham either ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 27, 2019, 09:56:40 AM
Looks like Lenny is rewarding those who had good championship campaigns. Tomas and Paddy are two class acts who will bring a bit of composure and leadership to the forward division...then throw Dermot Mc Aleese, Marc Jordan (I assume hes in as well) Conor Small and Eamon Fyfe into that mix... all of a sudden there is serious competition for game time going on!

Theres 6 quality acts that werent there last two years!! Is it just me or does anyone else detect a bit of a feelgood factor for Antrim Football atm??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 28, 2019, 11:07:38 PM
Marc Jordan conformed, Im aboard Bannsides bus here, carry out n all!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2019, 12:11:39 AM
Big Marc confirmed, class! A really exciting player to watch in full flow. Peter Healy too, another flyer. Panel starting to resemble the countys best footballers for the first time in years.....can't wait to see the final ensemble! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 29, 2019, 12:49:53 AM
Yes, certainly seems to be a willingness among more players to get on board, which is just brilliant to see. Div 4 will be tough, games v Sligo, Wexford and Carlow will decide it. Imagine even half the crowd who turned out for championship final coming to those games? It would be a massive boost for the players.

Hopefully more good news to come, thinking of KOBO for example, recovered from injury and such a brilliant county player...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Definitely Brendan there is still a few big names out there Id love to see confirmed, but its probably a work in progress atm. Havent heard any mention of Conor Murray yet...arguably the best player in the county right now, plus Mark Sweeney whos turned into a class act these last few years but opted off the panel last year due to work committments. Hopefully they will be back in Saffron in 2020.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2019, 09:26:23 PM
Defo feel good factor coming from the most watched championship ever - our PRO made sure everyone got to watch it no matter where they were - top man

Is Gaelfast producing good Vibes too? lots of activity for sure but r any clubs feeling the benefit yet??????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2019, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2019, 09:26:23 PM
Defo feel good factor coming from the most watched championship ever - our PRO made sure everyone got to watch it no matter where they were - top man

Is Gaelfast producing good Vibes too? lots of activity for sure but r any clubs feeling the benefit yet??????

Surely Galefast is working at primary level? I doubt we'll see benefits until that process has run its course and hopefully numbers increase and sustainability resulting in bigger numbers playing our games. Success should be seen as increased numbers, better full time coaches, improved participation from schools. Once those targets are met (if that is their goal) we'll benefit in the long run..

I don't think this is a get rich quick scheme
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 30, 2019, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2019, 09:26:23 PM
Defo feel good factor coming from the most watched championship ever - our PRO made sure everyone got to watch it no matter where they were - top man

Is Gaelfast producing good Vibes too? lots of activity for sure but r any clubs feeling the benefit yet??????

Fair play to our PRO - has to take a lot of credit this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 30, 2019, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 30, 2019, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2019, 09:26:23 PM
Defo feel good factor coming from the most watched championship ever - our PRO made sure everyone got to watch it no matter where they were - top man

Is Gaelfast producing good Vibes too? lots of activity for sure but r any clubs feeling the benefit yet??????

Fair play to our PRO - has to take a lot of credit this year

Antrim PRO is unreal - if there's All Stars for PRO, he must get one!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2019, 09:37:04 AM
Sean Kelly top of the class. His skill set combined with Saffron Gael massive contribution too assures Antrim Gaels have the best PR in the country. Definitely a golden era for PR compared to the constant negativity of only a few years ago. But this has to be sustained, and county officers should make this a priority. The day its taken for granted is the day it all comes to an end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 30, 2019, 10:54:48 AM
Any word on the U21 Championship draw?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2019, 11:33:26 AM
done and all.

A championship

1 - Ballymena v Dunloy
2. St Johns v Randalstown
3. Creggan v Moneyglass
4. Rossa v St Brigids

Semi finals - 24th Nov
1 v 4
2 v 3

home venue in the quarter finals. Neutral there after

B Championship

Prelim - 3rd Nov
Glenavy v Aghagallon

First Round - 10th Nov
St Pauls v St Endas - can be moved to suit ulster final
Glenavy/Aghagallon v Cargin

Quarter Finals - 17th Nov
Portglenone v St galls
Glenavy/Aghagallon/Cargin v St Pauls/St Endas
Lamh Dherg v Gortnamona
Glenravel v Aldergrove - can be moved subject to Ulster championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 30, 2019, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2019, 11:33:26 AM
done and all.

A championship

1 - Ballymena v Dunloy
2. St Johns v Randalstown
3. Creggan v Moneyglass
4. Rossa v St Brigids

Semi finals - 24th Nov
1 v 4
2 v 3

home venue in the quarter finals. Neutral there after

B Championship

Prelim - 3rd Nov
Glenavy v Aghagallon

First Round - 10th Nov
St Pauls v St Endas - can be moved to suit ulster final
Glenavy/Aghagallon v Cargin

Quarter Finals - 17th Nov
Portglenone v St galls
Glenavy/Aghagallon/Cargin v St Pauls/St Endas
Lamh Dherg v Gortnamona
Glenravel v Aldergrove - can be moved subject to Ulster championship

Glenravel ran your lads close last night.. Were you missing a few?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2019, 12:02:21 PM
missing around 5/6 lads but that didnt take away from how Glenravel played.

they totally deserved to be winning at half time. they defended really well and we seemed to make more mistakes than we needed to. They got 4 goals in the first half that we just didnt defend at all.

second half was a different game and we did deserved to get a result at the end up but it was harsh on Glenravel as they worked their arses off for the whole hour of the game.

Also fair dues to them for moving the game to accommodate the hurling on our end. they could of refused to work with us and we would of had to just give them the points and take a fine as most the lads are in the hurling panel/team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 30, 2019, 01:43:30 PM
Any word on what the underage structure is this year?  Is it sticking with U14's/U16's or moving to 13's/15's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 30, 2019, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2019, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 29, 2019, 09:26:23 PM
Defo feel good factor coming from the most watched championship ever - our PRO made sure everyone got to watch it no matter where they were - top man

Is Gaelfast producing good Vibes too? lots of activity for sure but r any clubs feeling the benefit yet??????

Surely Galefast is working at primary level? I doubt we'll see benefits until that process has run its course and hopefully numbers increase and sustainability resulting in bigger numbers playing our games. Success should be seen as increased numbers, better full time coaches, improved participation from schools. Once those targets are met (if that is their goal) we'll benefit in the long run..

I don't think this is a get rich quick scheme
Definitely not a quick impact scheme but would love to hear some even small results like X club's juvenile membership growing rapidly or a new club being formed on the back of increased numbers but you are right MR2 we will have to be patient in the weeks and months ahead to see such thingS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2019, 07:46:32 PM
Probably the biggest obstacle qe have in Antrim especially Belfast is the lure of organised soccer. I recently talked to a schoolteacher in St Marys who named a dozen class acts at gaelic football who were going to be good county standard who fell through the net to soccer. Winning the battle for hearts and minds of GAA over soccer in nationalist areas is the first big test. Im happy to kerp the faith with Paul Donnelly and his troops that this can be achieved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 30, 2019, 07:47:56 PM
Eamon Fyfe confirmed now also. Somebody check on Peter John
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2019, 08:41:34 PM
Lol PJ. Good to see a Glenravel man on the panel after a few years. Alec Mc Quillan and Martin Mulholland were two of the best Saffrons ever in my time watching. Eamon has the world of ability too....hope he can kick on into a big player for us now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2019, 11:30:01 PM
The breaking news that Creagh Concrete are to step up their financial association with the county by sponsoring all 8 development squads is another fantastic boost for Antrim Gaa. The Mc Keague family firm has stood tall with Antrim through some dark days, a period of one negative story after another and of course  tough times of their own during a long and nasty recession.

They are a company on a big upward curve now and see the many positive changes happening throughout the county and look set to take their involvement with Antrim Gaa to the next level. It may take a decade to "make Antrim great" but developments like this one can really make it happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2019, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2019, 11:30:01 PM
The breaking news that Creagh Concrete are to step up their financial association with the county by sponsoring all 8 development squads is another fantastic boost for Antrim Gaa. The Mc Keague family firm has stood tall with Antrim through some dark days, a period of one negative story after another and of course  tough times of their own during a long and nasty recession.

They are a company on a big upward curve now and see the many positive changes happening throughout the county and look set to take their involvement with Antrim Gaa to the next level. It may take a decade to "make Antrim great" but developments like this one can really make it happen.

Who are the new senior sponsors BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2019, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2019, 08:41:34 PM
Lol PJ. Good to see a Glenravel man on the panel after a few years. Alec Mc Quillan and Martin Mulholland were two of the best Saffrons ever in my time watching. Eamon has the world of ability too....hope he can kick on into a big player for us now!

Alec has to be in the Top3 best Antrim players of all time I'd say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on October 31, 2019, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 31, 2019, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2019, 08:41:34 PM
Lol PJ. Good to see a Glenravel man on the panel after a few years. Alec Mc Quillan and Martin Mulholland were two of the best Saffrons ever in my time watching. Eamon has the world of ability too....hope he can kick on into a big player for us now!

Alec has to be in the Top3 best Antrim players of all time I'd say.

Really? Superlative free taker, longevity too but that's some claim. I'm not disputing your statement right enough. Trained with him regularly at club and can safely say he was Glenravel's greatest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2019, 02:43:05 PM
I'm with PaddyJohn on this. Havent seen many better than Alec for consistency over a period from around 1980 until early nineties. Best of his generation imo. Could have played anywhere, never wasted a ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2019, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: ned on October 31, 2019, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 31, 2019, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 30, 2019, 08:41:34 PM
Lol PJ. Good to see a Glenravel man on the panel after a few years. Alec Mc Quillan and Martin Mulholland were two of the best Saffrons ever in my time watching. Eamon has the world of ability too....hope he can kick on into a big player for us now!

Alec has to be in the Top3 best Antrim players of all time I'd say.

Really? Superlative free taker, longevity too but that's some claim. I'm not disputing your statement right enough. Trained with him regularly at club and can safely say he was Glenravel's greatest.

I'd be quite confident that 7/10 people would agree with me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2019, 08:57:38 PM
talking about best ever players is near impossible when comparing era's
Best stab would by decade - for starters

90s - Ciaran O'Neill, Aidan Donnelly, Terry McCrudden, John Rafferty
00s - Kevin Brady, Kevin McGourty,Sean Kelly,
10's - Michael McCann, CJ McGourty,Paddy Cunningam

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2019, 09:27:14 PM
All about opinions I suppose, no one can really claim to have the definitive answer. Thing about Alec is...he put everything into playing for the county, for about twelve years or more. In fairness Kevin Brady did too, and he is most worthy of a place in this discussion. They both gave club and county everything and never missed a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2019, 10:00:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2019, 09:35:51 PM
Joe Quinn, Kevin Madden, Loughrey, Niblock, Kobo all must be in with a shout.

Not going to argue with that, along with McCann, I can go back as far as Mickey Darragh and that auld team, Flash, and very young Jimmy Wilson
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2019, 10:24:27 PM
All class acts too no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2019, 10:31:00 PM
Take the 09 team that went toe to toe for most of the game in Tullamore against a Kerry team that went on to win that year. Would a fit and available Sean Kelly Kevin & Kieran Mc Gourty not gave given us an extra 5% or 10%?? And could that have won the game for us?

No one really saw that team coming....the quality of players were in our midst the whole time! Dont forget St Galls won the All Ireland club title too that year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 31, 2019, 11:44:22 PM
neither CJ nor Kevin stayed for long enough periods to make this list - by the way, a very interesting diversion on a discussion board! - James Loughrey one of the best and wouldn't it be great to have seen him playing even longer too. Tony Scullion is in that space where quality meets longevity, Mick McCann definitely on the shortlist. He was at the top of his game in successive promotions in 09 and 2010. Kevin O'B...Justin Crozier, Kevin Niblock, Paddy Cunningham, Tomas as well and those last two back on board.

Looking further back, Lenny was one of our best flair players, Donal Armstrong when we won the B championship, Aidan Donnelly, Mackers, Whitey with his overhead point!

This really is a talking point for an evening over a few pints.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 01, 2019, 08:33:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2019, 08:57:38 PM
talking about best ever players is near impossible when comparing era's
Best stab would by decade - for starters

90s - Ciaran O'Neill, Aidan Donnelly, Terry McCrudden, John Rafferty
00s - Kevin Brady, Kevin McGourty,Sean Kelly,
10's - Michael McCann, CJ McGourty,Paddy Cunningam

i still think that Michael McCann is a class act. hes the best player on the ball that Cargin have had this past lot of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 01, 2019, 08:56:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 01, 2019, 08:33:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 31, 2019, 08:57:38 PM
talking about best ever players is near impossible when comparing era's
Best stab would by decade - for starters

90s - Ciaran O'Neill, Aidan Donnelly, Terry McCrudden, John Rafferty
00s - Kevin Brady, Kevin McGourty,Sean Kelly,
10's - Michael McCann, CJ McGourty,Paddy Cunningam

i still think that Michael McCann is a class act. hes the best player on the ball that Cargin have had this past lot of years.
When I started this I had in mind what the player did for club and county - Paul McErlain,JOE QuinnDOnal Armstrong and Eddie Quinn should be added to my 90s list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
Sean Kelly at club level was probably as good as there was about in the country for a few years. At county he suffered a bit from plugging a gap at corner back and not playing where he would do his best job. I think this has happened a few of our players over the years as we have struggled to produce corner backs and have produced more half backs.(Oddly the same seems to happen in hurling)

Ronan Hamill wasn't bad either IIRC. Stephen Mulvenna in his era when he wasn't playing for Derry lol.

While Tony Scullion maybe wasn't quite as skillful as some of our best I think he has done more for Antrim than most with his engine and heart. Eddie Quinn was probably the best club player about for a while but didn't play too many years for the county IIRC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 01, 2019, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 30, 2019, 01:43:30 PM
Any word on what the underage structure is this year?  Is it sticking with U14's/U16's or moving to 13's/15's?

Age groups for 2020

Following central councils adoption of the "Academy Report" in June 2019, a direction was issued by An Ard Stiúrthóir on 2nd October 2019.

In that correspondence the Ard Stiúrthóir confirmed that the " Association Policy" was to change the age groups  to u13.u15 and u17 for 2020, but noted that other grades  i.e. 14, 16, and 18  could be allowed subject to prior approval from Central council.

Given that this is a policy and not a rule confusion exists thought-out the country

Its anticipated that a range of motions will be put to congress in Feb 2020 setting the 13,15 and 17 age groups into rule commencing Jan 2021 ( it's highly unlikely that they could be delivered any earlier as most counties will have competition schedules in place by the time congress meets in Feb 2020).

The County Chairman, Ciarán Mc Cavana, has been taking soundings  from both inside and outside the county over the last few weeks.

Based on that engagement  Antrim GAA will be retaining  the current u14 u16 and u18 age grades for 2020 .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
Disappointing not to see a " Call to Arms" in relation to supporting the Antrim representatives " Naomh Seamas" today at Corrigan in their bid with the Ulster intermediate 1/4 final on the county website...... wouldn't have taken much effort to post something about a rather small club in the south west of the county!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2019, 09:52:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
Disappointing not to see a " Call to Arms" in relation to supporting the Antrim representatives " Naomh Seamas" today at Corrigan in their bid with the Ulster intermediate 1/4 final on the county website...... wouldn't have taken much effort to post something about a rather small club in the south west of the county!

Seen loads of links to it on Antrim's Facebook page, it would get more views than the Antrim
Website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2019, 12:20:11 PM
Sean Kelly dosent miss many games and I'd be surprised if he wasnt the first man at Corrigan Pk and the last to leave, so hopefully Naomh Seamas will provide him with plenty of positive news to report, and if Aldergrove progress further in the competition  no doubt the PR will build accordingly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2019, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 03, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
Disappointing not to see a " Call to Arms" in relation to supporting the Antrim representatives " Naomh Seamas" today at Corrigan in their bid with the Ulster intermediate 1/4 final on the county website...... wouldn't have taken much effort to post something about a rather small club in the south west of the county!

i think thats pretty inaccurate there when you consider the coverage that was given on twitter and other social media platforms by the County for the game. the website is more or less an information service now as social media is based on twitter, FB and Instagram now these days.

the Aldergrove pages were rallying good support and had the support from other clubs as well wishing them well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 04, 2019, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 01, 2019, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on October 30, 2019, 01:43:30 PM
Any word on what the underage structure is this year?  Is it sticking with U14's/U16's or moving to 13's/15's?

Age groups for 2020

Following central councils adoption of the "Academy Report" in June 2019, a direction was issued by An Ard Stiúrthóir on 2nd October 2019.

In that correspondence the Ard Stiúrthóir confirmed that the " Association Policy" was to change the age groups  to u13.u15 and u17 for 2020, but noted that other grades  i.e. 14, 16, and 18  could be allowed subject to prior approval from Central council.

Given that this is a policy and not a rule confusion exists thought-out the country

Its anticipated that a range of motions will be put to congress in Feb 2020 setting the 13,15 and 17 age groups into rule commencing Jan 2021 ( it's highly unlikely that they could be delivered any earlier as most counties will have competition schedules in place by the time congress meets in Feb 2020).

The County Chairman, Ciarán Mc Cavana, has been taking soundings  from both inside and outside the county over the last few weeks.

Based on that engagement  Antrim GAA will be retaining  the current u14 u16 and u18 age grades for 2020 .

Good man, thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 07, 2019, 07:55:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Be wasting their time promoting football in a hurling only club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 07, 2019, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Kind of wonder what you are basing this on?
I would have thought the opposite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 07, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 07, 2019, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Kind of wonder what you are basing this on?
I would have thought the opposite.
Sarsfields, Rossa N Pol etc have teams at all ages and codes,  I think, so they are trying to make more clubs like that rather than go to the strong areas/clubs then you will have more kids playing overall. DO u think they should be in strong areas more?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 07, 2019, 10:50:47 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 07, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 07, 2019, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Kind of wonder what you are basing this on?
I would have thought the opposite.
Sarsfields, Rossa N Pol etc have teams at all ages and codes,  I think, so they are trying to make more clubs like that rather than go to the strong areas/clubs then you will have more kids playing overall. DO u think they should be in strong areas more?

I would like to fact check that 'at all ages all codes' point there for those three clubs for starters.

Point being you picked three of the biggest clubs who traditionally have under performed in recent years. My point is they should be helping/ advising the stronger clubs but pretty much leaving them as they are and concentrating on the weaker clubs who are struggling. From what I have seen and IMO this has not happened as of yet.

Not knocking their work because it is going to be a slow process which will take years, just merely looking at what I have seen to date.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 07, 2019, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: antone2907 on November 07, 2019, 10:36:26 AM
Matthew Fitzpatrick & Ryan Murray not on this years panel is a big blow to Antrim.

Would have been good if you had got them on the panel along with Cunningham and Thomas McCann

could be another long year in div 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2019, 03:11:03 PM
Hopefully Ryan will be available to join up with panel after Christmas. To be fair Lenny did well to get a few years from Matt Fitz...soccer was always his first love....but who knows maybe he too could rejoin the panel for the championship when the soccer dies down.

Still enough quality in the panel to be optimistic we can get promotion this year. A bit of positivity all round this year would be a big help. #LetsgetbehindLenny
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 07, 2019, 07:07:11 PM
Thoughts on the new jersey?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 07, 2019, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 07, 2019, 07:07:11 PM
Thoughts on the new jersey?

What happened Creagh Concrete - strange not seeing it on front.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on November 07, 2019, 07:19:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 07, 2019, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 07, 2019, 07:07:11 PM
Thoughts on the new jersey?

What happened Creagh Concrete - strange not seeing it on front.

They are sponsoring the development squads

Prices are ridiculous but that's hardly Antrim's fault
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 07, 2019, 07:26:59 PM
I like it. Looks smart, strange on Creagh on the front.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 08, 2019, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2019, 07:26:59 PM
I like it. Looks smart, strange on Creagh on the front.
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Is Antrim jersey on a 2 year cycle?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2019, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 07, 2019, 07:55:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Be wasting their time promoting football in a hurling only club
Where does anybody who wants to play football in Larne go then? Maybe Gaelfast could help establish a dual club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2019, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2019, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 07, 2019, 07:55:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Be wasting their time promoting football in a hurling only club
Where does anybody who wants to play football in Larne go then? Maybe Gaelfast could help establish a dual club

are you encouraging football in Cushendall?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2019, 01:04:39 PM
Cushendall have a football club close to them though.

Carnlough did used to have a football team I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2019, 01:29:07 PM
The Carnlough boys played for Glenarm footballers originally and in latter years Glenravel. Dont recall a Carnlough gaelic football team tho ITG.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2019, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2019, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2019, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 07, 2019, 07:55:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Well what do we think of Gaelfast so far?
Looks like it is active in the weak areas/clubs Colin Gaels , Ardoyne Pearses , Lower Falls , Larne and staying away from areas with stronger clubs. That's the right approach and looks like it's getting stronger all the Times

Be wasting their time promoting football in a hurling only club
Where does anybody who wants to play football in Larne go then? Maybe Gaelfast could help establish a dual club

are you encouraging football in Cushendall?
I'D be encouraging all codes in all places and would be great to see some clubs/codes emerge in areas not known to be GAA strong. I saw Gaelfast were in Larne recently and thought that was good to see. 10/12 years ago there was no St Brigids and look how strong they are now but they could haven't any hurling so an opportunity there too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2019, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 09, 2019, 01:29:07 PM
The Carnlough boys played for Glenarm footballers originally and in latter years Glenravel. Dont recall a Carnlough gaelic football team tho ITG.

My dad mentioned they had a team once. Must check I am not imagining things and it wasn't gleanarm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2019, 02:29:25 PM
I actually don't mind single code clubs. Us dual clubs collectively have won more, the Johnnies in football and Rossa in hurling mainly and both those teams have had success with their lesser codes.

And it never hampered my club. I'm still of the opinion we need a Belfast only hurling club or two to actually really give Belfast a chance at competing in Antrim and beyond
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2019, 06:03:43 PM
I wouldn't disagree with you on a hurling only club in Belfast that had a football club nearby for those who wanted to do both. But where does a young lad in south Belfast go to hurl or in Toomebridge.... - one of the great things about GAA is 2 sports to try before settling on 1 in Most cases
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 09, 2019, 06:24:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2019, 06:03:43 PM
I wouldn't disagree with you on a hurling only club in Belfast that had a football club nearby for those who wanted to do both. But where does a young lad in south Belfast go to hurl or in Toomebridge.... - one of the great things about GAA is 2 sports to try before settling on 1 in Most cases

But why should they have to settle for 1.  Playing 2 or 3 or 4 sports at underage only make them  better sports people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2019, 06:48:26 PM
A good few loughgiel and cushendall ones play football underage too. Less so at senior. McManus, graffin etc all played underage football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Latharna on November 09, 2019, 09:12:54 PM
First post fellas. im a larne man born and bred, now living in south Derry.growing up in larne it was all soccer, no football at all.introduced to it at St. Louis in Ballymena and played a bit there but then back home to nothing.nearest football club is st endas.i know my granda played football for larne,could be wrong on this but think they won an antrim junior championship a long time ago.would be great to see it being introduced in the town and really hope any effort through gaelfast is successful but it's a big ask, literally starting from scratch in terms of the football.that said there are 4-5000 people in larne parish so the numbers are there.but a big challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
Welcome Latharna. Developing Larne is a big ask but not impossible....especially if Gaelfast coaches go in for a few years and light the spark. Maybe start with an under 12 and under 14 team, that would be enough to get started if there were half a dozen mentors capable of looking after this and stepping up to under 16s in a few years. Wouldnt look any further than this to begin with. Good thing about Gaelfast is, they will also coach the coaches, so thats a huge bonus too.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on November 10, 2019, 02:25:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
Welcome Latharna. Developing Larne is a big ask but not impossible....especially if Gaelfast coaches go in for a few years and light the spark. Maybe start with an under 12 and under 14 team, that would be enough to get started if there were half a dozen mentors capable of looking after this and stepping up to under 16s in a few years. Wouldnt look any further than this to begin with. Good thing about Gaelfast is, they will also coach the coaches, so thats a huge bonus too.

It's been difficult enough at times keeping the hurling going, and the hurling club's been there for more than 50 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 10, 2019, 10:36:38 PM
Fair play to you for doing it and I hope Gaelfast will provide support.
Don't know if Gaelfast were involved but Greencastle Wolfe Tones recently played a football challenge game for the first time in years I just heard - great to Hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2019, 07:43:36 AM
I wouldn't think there is much interest in establishing football in the Larne club. They were founded as a hurling club and have always played hurling under difficult circumstances.

At the same time one of the underage lads did play football for St Enda's on the team that won the Paul McGirr Ulster U-16 tournament a few years back.

Also made the county U-16 squad I believe.

The priority in the Larne club is to build on the JHC 'B' victory by establishing an underage hurling structure with the assistance of Gaelfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2019, 07:55:02 AM
Maybe the majority of Latharna dont want a football near the place! Back to my point....half a dozen good men is all it takes to get an under 12 and 14 team started. With Gaelfast keeping an eye on coaching for a bit. Is that really too much to ask in a town with a sizeable nationalist population?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2019, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 11, 2019, 07:55:02 AM
[b]Maybe the majority of Latharna dont want a football near the place![/b] Back to my point....half a dozen good men is all it takes to get an under 12 and 14 team started. With Gaelfast keeping an eye on coaching for a bit. Is that really too much to ask in a town with a sizeable nationalist population?

Hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2019, 12:56:59 PM
Anyone know if Gaelfast have a plan to try and boost these places where support is required or do clubs/people approach Gaelfast? Aontroim ABU
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on November 11, 2019, 02:06:08 PM
Question (I should know this) but is Gaelfast aimed at early years children is that right? Why is specialist coaching needed for basically fundamentals training/child minding?  What is the thinking behind this?
Were other age groups discussed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2019, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: outinfront on November 11, 2019, 02:06:08 PM
Question (I should know this) but is Gaelfast aimed at early years children is that right? Why is specialist coaching needed for basically fundamentals training/child minding?  What is the thinking behind this?
Were other age groups discussed?

It's aimed at (I assume) developing coaches, encouraging clubs, working with schools and developing GAA within these schools, raising GAA profile and increasing numbers from some of the stuff mentioned.

There are millions of things that people what Gaelfest to do and what people think is 'more important' but I'm sure we've employed the right people with the best background and experience to hopefully get us the results we want.

I'm sure there is a blueprint to what they are working from, it might even be available. We are miles behind some cities in Ireland, Cork Dublin Galway and Limerick are streets ahead but we've got to start somewhere.

It won't be a quick fix that's for sure, soccer is taking loads of kids now and these lads are juggling both sports, something is going to give, structured games every weekend and a carrot of playing football in England (a pipe dream though) or fractured leagues, tournaments running into December  games being called off for any excuse you can think off, though in fairness to the CCC they have stamped a lot of this out over recent years..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 12, 2019, 09:31:05 PM
MR2 would be good to see the blueprint so we could all row in behind it but I have to say after a slow start Gaelfast seems to be everywhere atm and really upping their game. Not so long Ago the juvenile Antrim GAA scene finished in Sept for the year but not the case this year - that's my sense of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2019, 09:04:18 AM
all i see is Gaelfast out all the time in various primary schools and clubs. no matter where they are this is a good thing.

so far they seem to be putting in the hard work at the grass routes level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 13, 2019, 09:43:17 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2019, 09:04:18 AM
all i see is Gaelfast out all the time in various primary schools and clubs. no matter where they are this is a good thing.

so far they seem to be putting in the hard work at the grass routes level

Building a solid base within the primary schools and creating links to the club scene is definitely the way to go.

It's going to take years before the fruits of their effort is realised but should be more sustainable long term.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 13, 2019, 02:18:45 PM
The u21 is progressing well with QFinals this weekend

Predictions
A
St Brides & Dunloy favourites
B
St Galls  & AghagaLLon favorites

.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 13, 2019, 03:07:45 PM
hearing the mcnulty brothers from st endas are at the helm of kickams next year.... anyone shed any light
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 13, 2019, 03:07:45 PM
hearing the mcnulty brothers from st endas are at the helm of kickams next year.... anyone shed any light
with creggans long standing reluctance to have faith in their own it would be no surprise if they have gone down this road again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 14, 2019, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 13, 2019, 03:07:45 PM
hearing the mcnulty brothers from st endas are at the helm of kickams next year.... anyone shed any light
with creggans long standing reluctance to have faith in their own it would be no surprise if they have gone down this road again

That's clarified things - I initially thought we were talking Ardoyne.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 14, 2019, 11:37:55 PM
Wrong on both counts. Gerard McNulty hasnt taken a single cent from our club in 2
Years. Madden took us to our first senior county final in 40 years and our first ever division 1 league title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2019, 10:10:47 AM
I really dont understand peoples obsessions with who manages who and how much the are/might be getting. lol

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2019, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 13, 2019, 02:18:45 PM
The u21 is progressing well with QFinals this weekend

Predictions
A
St Brides & Dunloy favourites
B
St Galls  & AghagaLLon favorites

.........

A lot of good games this weekend in the competition

The Rossa v St Brigid's game will be a cracker. not much between the two sides

To be fair Creggan ran Brigids pretty close in their group game but ran out of steam near the end of it but they are missing two good players which will hamper them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2019, 10:15:36 AM
Took the dogs for a walk around the pitches at UUJ last night, the squad were out for a training session, hopefully the new members are slotting in ok and looking to impress.

The last remaining club team from Antrim was on the other pitch also, hopefully they get through the game on Sunday and set up a fantastic semi final in the club series
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
Who would people see as the favourites for the U-21? We have Moneyglass on Sunday which should be a tight one.

If we can get our full team out we have plenty of firepower. But there doesn't seem to be much between any of the teams left.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2019, 11:23:50 AM
to be honest St Brigids would be the favs as they have basically the same team that beat us last year bar maybe 1 or 2 players. they were very strong and impressed me last season so they should be there or there abouts

Use were unlucky last year against them earlier in the group but id fancy use to beat moneyglass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 11:59:46 AM
Heard St Brigids only lost one player from last years team. But their main man James Smith didn't play against us in the group game.
Wonder is he injured? Have Dunloy many of last years side?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Nothing personally but I'd say most people on this board buy club lotto, pay membership, help with fUndraising we need to keep our clubs going and every pound is hard got and boys like him, and others, take that money out of the association. - that's my problem with him and others but he takes the biscuit by taking a team in a neighbouring parish and not his own who gave him a good playing career
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2019, 01:45:27 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 11:59:46 AM
Heard St Brigids only lost one player from last years team. But their main man James Smith didn't play against us in the group game.
Wonder is he injured? Have Dunloy many of last years side?

Just the 2. one over age and one injured so its not too bad. we have a good chance again but again its literally all on the day as they have the talent to win it  and they are all flying fit from the hurling to win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
As mentioned on here before he lives in Moneyglass and coaches underage teams there. The managing your own club argument is a bit lame as none of us know ins and outs.

We always seem to get a brave of stick but off the top of head I reckon in division one alone Cargin, Creggan, Lamh dhearg, portglenone, Ahoghill, Aghagallon St Endas Gort na Mona and st galls all had either an outside manager or coach last year. There could be others.

I would prefer that we grow our own coaches within Creggan. We have a few good former players  involved with 21s so hope to see them stepping up in the future


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Didn't realise you had nearly all of last years team DR.

Some strong teams left all capable of a having a cut. Whoever comes through it wouid be brilliant to see the Antrim winners may go in and win Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2019, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
As mentioned on here before he lives in Moneyglass and coaches underage teams there. The managing your own club argument is a bit lame as none of us know ins and outs.

We always seem to get a brave of stick but off the top of head I reckon in division one alone Cargin, Creggan, Lamh dhearg, portglenone, Ahoghill, Aghagallon St Endas Gort na Mona and st galls all had either an outside manager or coach last year. There could be others.

I would prefer that we grow our own coaches within Creggan. We have a few good former players  involved with 21s so hope to see them stepping up in the future

This is the longest we have went with home grown managers, Since Lenny took us up the steps of the Hogan Stand we've had clubmen looking after us, same this year..

I'm not against it either btw, outside voice with no baggage is great
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 15, 2019, 02:28:50 PM
Have to agree with MR2 an outside man with no family names, favours to settle or friends to please can be the best for a team which wants players selected on merit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 02:32:28 PM
MR2 Inside managers yes but Big Paul Mellon who was in with us for a year was coaching your seniors the last 2 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2019, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 15, 2019, 02:32:28 PM
MR2 Inside managers yes but Big Paul Mellon who was in with us for a year was coaching your seniors the last 2 years

Yes we've had a coach for sure and even with past clubmen as managers we've always had am outside coach, I've always believed you need a coach who'll coach, the manager is the main cog in that machine though..

The set up for most teams should be, Manager, coach, adviser and two helpers to organise the pitches rigs and any other business.. I firmly believe the coach should be coaching only, that way he can keep his focus on that, obviously he'll need direction on the type of game plan so that he can implement drills to suit. Some clubs have that skill set within their club but I think that is good to have that outside voice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Nothing personally but I'd say most people on this board buy club lotto, pay membership, help with fUndraising we need to keep our clubs going and every pound is hard got and boys like him, and others, take that money out of the association. - that's my problem with him and others but he takes the biscuit by taking a team in a neighbouring parish and not his own who gave him a good playing career

Do you the reasons why he doesn't take his own club team? You are commenting on something that, like the rest of us, you know very little about.

In some clubs an outside voice is the best way forward and when people pay into the club lotto or whatever they do so knowing that is where the money is going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2019, 05:04:15 PM
A championship final and a division 1 league isn't bad going either. You do wonder can they put over the line with current crop of players but maybe they're just not quite there with or without him. All in all he hasn't done too bad I'd have said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2019, 06:22:50 PM
Kevin has lived in Moneyglass for ten years now and his young girls play underage football there and I know he does help out there from time to time. Was told he pays into Moneyglass Cairde Scheme for their new pitch fundraising plan too so it looks like thats where his club allegience lies at this stage. People move on, it happens, but he still has plenty of friends around Portglenone and maybe one day he will throw his hat into the ring here for free. Ok he never won a championship at Creggan but he went mighty close and won a good bit of other stuff during his time there. He has a big challenge at the minute with Tyrone and not many Antrim men can say they got an opportunity to do that! Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Nothing personally but I'd say most people on this board buy club lotto, pay membership, help with fUndraising we need to keep our clubs going and every pound is hard got and boys like him, and others, take that money out of the association. - that's my problem with him and others but he takes the biscuit by taking a team in a neighbouring parish and not his own who gave him a good playing career

Do you the reasons why he doesn't take his own club team? You are commenting on something that, like the rest of us, you know very little about.

In some clubs an outside voice is the best way forward and when people pay into the club lotto or whatever they do so knowing that is where the money is going.
Id say if you asked your hardworking voluntary treasurer he might well prefer to have faith in one of your own but here everyone is entitled to their opinion  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Nothing personally but I'd say most people on this board buy club lotto, pay membership, help with fUndraising we need to keep our clubs going and every pound is hard got and boys like him, and others, take that money out of the association. - that's my problem with him and others but he takes the biscuit by taking a team in a neighbouring parish and not his own who gave him a good playing career

Do you the reasons why he doesn't take his own club team? You are commenting on something that, like the rest of us, you know very little about.

In some clubs an outside voice is the best way forward and when people pay into the club lotto or whatever they do so knowing that is where the money is going.
Id say if you asked your hardworking voluntary treasurer he might well prefer to have faith in one of your own but here everyone is entitled to their opinion  :-X

In my club our treasurer was more than happy to pay the outside man, in fact she help to vote him in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2019, 11:25:42 PM
Generally there is a benefactor within a club who 'helps' or a few fundraisers that help..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 16, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Nothing personally but I'd say most people on this board buy club lotto, pay membership, help with fUndraising we need to keep our clubs going and every pound is hard got and boys like him, and others, take that money out of the association. - that's my problem with him and others but he takes the biscuit by taking a team in a neighbouring parish and not his own who gave him a good playing career

Do you the reasons why he doesn't take his own club team? You are commenting on something that, like the rest of us, you know very little about.

In some clubs an outside voice is the best way forward and when people pay into the club lotto or whatever they do so knowing that is where the money is going.
Id say if you asked your hardworking voluntary treasurer he might well prefer to have faith in one of your own but here everyone is entitled to their opinion  :-X

In my club our treasurer was more than happy to pay the outside man, in fact she help to vote him in.
With the McNultys doing it for free can you send your surplus to the financially struggling clubs? sounds like we need a solidarity fund
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2019, 03:47:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 16, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 14, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Will that mean double the money?
one of them was on the payroll last year and the other one must b replacing Madden which isn't a hard act to follow

What has Madden ever done on you?
Nothing personally but I'd say most people on this board buy club lotto, pay membership, help with fUndraising we need to keep our clubs going and every pound is hard got and boys like him, and others, take that money out of the association. - that's my problem with him and others but he takes the biscuit by taking a team in a neighbouring parish and not his own who gave him a good playing career

Do you the reasons why he doesn't take his own club team? You are commenting on something that, like the rest of us, you know very little about.

In some clubs an outside voice is the best way forward and when people pay into the club lotto or whatever they do so knowing that is where the money is going.
Id say if you asked your hardworking voluntary treasurer he might well prefer to have faith in one of your own but here everyone is entitled to their opinion  :-X

In my club our treasurer was more than happy to pay the outside man, in fact she help to vote him in.
With the McNultys doing it for free can you send your surplus to the financially struggling clubs? sounds like we need a solidarity fund

No bother. Sure we've been bailing the city clubs out as years....  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2019, 07:58:44 AM
Great to see Paul Buchanan in the line up for Ulster Gaa Coach of the Year. He has been at the very forefront of coaching juveniles at club (Lamh Dhearg) and school (De La Salle) and county development squads too for at least three decades. His committment alone has introduced Gaelic Games to thousands of juveniles over the years, all of who will testify to the big mans passion for promoting all things good about the GAA.

There is not one coach I can think of who has given his time so unselfishly working with so many people over such a sustained period, all quietly without looking for his name in lights. If ever a person was deserving of an honour like this its "Big Buch", so give him your support by going on to Antrim Facebook page and give him your vote. Just follow the link its simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 17, 2019, 04:59:29 PM
U21 football - handy win for Whitehill today but I hear that there was a 5 minute free for all in Rossa St Brigids today and match effectively abandoned. Anyone clarify
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 17, 2019, 04:59:29 PM
U21 football - handy win for Whitehill today but I hear that there was a 5 minute free for all in Rossa St Brigids today and match effectively abandoned. Anyone clarify

Spectators got involved on the pitch at the end of the game after Rossa missed a penalty. Looked very poor esp when supporters get involved. Ref blew the game up probably a bit early but he was left with no option.

Hard to know what the ramifications will be. Prob fines if the ref puts it on his report.

Good wins the day for Randalstown  and Creggan as well. That will be a good semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2019, 05:58:42 PM
Listed as a result on county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2019, 06:07:43 PM
Yeah game was basically on the blow so the ref blew the whistle. With a shuffle like that the ref did the right thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 17, 2019, 06:33:23 PM
Players subs supporters all involved. Can't be swept under carpet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 17, 2019, 06:36:38 PM
Good to see the Christmas spirit has started early among the young ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 17, 2019, 06:51:18 PM
Sounds serious enough if spectators got involved as well. Has to be repercussions for those involved before someone gets a serious injury
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 17, 2019, 08:25:42 PM
Too many of them learning their trade in The Holylands these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 17, 2019, 08:40:33 PM
The referees report will need to b perfect as no doubt st brigids barrister will b inspecting it to get boys off whether guilty or not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 17, 2019, 08:58:16 PM
It was always his practice to drop in to the referee's room for a one to one afterwards, in any case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2019, 09:05:33 PM
Strange one! Two clubs normally associated with excellent discipline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 17, 2019, 09:11:35 PM
Ya reckon? Although it was a small ball game championship match, I can well remember officiating at Shaw's Road & hearing an "everybody in" instruction being issued by an ex-county player. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2019, 09:27:28 PM
Strange one all the same, games today all started at 11! A lot of anger for that time in the morning.

My game had some friendly getting to know you stuff! Nothing else, haven't seen the other teams but was impressed with Tir na og
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2019, 09:49:33 PM
St Galls too slick for us, decent outfit although someone made a comment that St Galls had players from four different clubs! Tell me thats not correct MR2!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2019, 09:56:54 PM
Randalstown starting to improve a lot at underage. Big derby in the semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 17, 2019, 10:27:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2019, 09:05:33 PM
Strange one! Two clubs normally associated with excellent discipline.
You obviously weren't at the county final a few years ago when Aghagallon beat Rossa.  Was very very ugly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
I was at that match in Toome alright Spartacus. Within a few feet of said scuffle and was well placed to see what happened and the "principals" from each club who got involved. But I stand by my original opinion that the two clubs involved yesterday would not be clubs I would associate with ill discipline on a regular scale.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 18, 2019, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on November 17, 2019, 09:11:35 PM
Ya reckon? Although it was a small ball game championship match, I can well remember officiating at Shaw's Road & hearing an "everybody in" instruction being issued by an ex-county player.

I've played there for 17 years, and officiated too, and never have i heard a Rossa player shout that out in either code
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 18, 2019, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2019, 09:49:33 PM
St Galls too slick for us, decent outfit although someone made a comment that St Galls had players from four different clubs! Tell me thats not correct MR2!
2 sanctions allowed only atU21
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 18, 2019, 02:11:37 PM
Good win for our boys yesterday. Moneyglass were disappointing not helped by prenter and Kelly going off early doors. With a couple of lads to come back in we should be stronger the next day. Local derby so should be pretty tense. Any word on venues yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
Nothing as of yet tho I'm m waiting for us to be sent to Belfast for a neutral semi final lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 20, 2019, 08:52:24 AM
Quote from: Peter john on November 18, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Two good a semis, Dunloy v St Biddys and Creggan v tir na nog/Antrim 😂

Why the crying laughter emoji PJ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2019, 11:09:23 AM
Our games been fixed for Glenravel this sunday at 11am. other game is in Ahoghill.

both b semi finals are a double header at the 4G Coláiste Feirste
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 20, 2019, 04:06:10 PM
Brilliant to see more and more Gaelfast activity in r primary's schools almost daily. No doubt this will continue in the weeks and months ahead but what's the plan for these kids when they get to secondary schools? Danger this good work could be wasted is my sense of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2019, 05:22:56 PM
Thats because you/me/we all have been accustomed to having very little faith in the top officials in our county over a sustained period of time. The youngsters who are receiving the benefit of Gaelfast right now, most aged 6 to 12, thankfully have no inkling or clue about what went on before them, less do they care.

Men like Colie Donnelly Terry Reilly and Pol Mc Cann stepped up and hammered out a deal with HQ for the development of Gaelic Games in Irelands most underdeveloped area per head per capita.

As a result Gaelfast was borne and professional men like Paul Donnelly were recruited to roll out this ambitious programme. Of course their strategy will include continuation and sustainability via secondary education and making sire our best talent is known to development squad mentors. This will take ten years...but thankfully....at long last the process has begun. The day will come when Antrim are punching far higher than what we have become used to.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 20, 2019, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 20, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
Surely all the numbers Whitehall have and they take sanctions from a neighbouring club,surely playing them before club men off their own,they aren't the only club to do it,but then clubs wonder why the lads that were overlooked vfor say Antrim lads,stop playing and then people ask why they're not playing Res,why they quit , :-\

Or 2 young lads from Antrim don't have an Un21 team to play in and throw the head up and are lost to the association for good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 20, 2019, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 20, 2019, 10:09:32 PM
So it's ok for R/town to loose players but not Antrim what the f**k goes on in your head man


Who said Randalstown will lose players?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2019, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 20, 2019, 10:49:08 PM
Well how do you know Antrim would,what happens the rest of the Antrim players between 18/21 you Muppet,

You're losing it by being personal, Antrim and Randalstown obviously agreed to this, I've no issues with players opting out for a year or two with a club that will enable them to progress in a championship that they would not have been able to play in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 20, 2019, 11:52:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 20, 2019, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 20, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
Surely all the numbers Whitehall have and they take sanctions from a neighbouring club,surely playing them before club men off their own,they aren't the only club to do it,but then clubs wonder why the lads that were overlooked vfor say Antrim lads,stop playing and then people ask why they're not playing Res,why they quit , :-\

Or 2 young lads from Antrim don't have an Un21 team to play in and throw the head up and are lost to the association for good.
Peter John has a fair point They do and have lost some of their own. Sanctions from a number of clubs in a number of age groups. Poor form with the numbers and catchment area they have but not surprising. Then wonder why the Inevitable happens
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2019, 07:10:21 AM
Quote from: Peter john on November 20, 2019, 10:49:08 PM
Well how do you know Antrim would,what happens the rest of the Antrim players between 18/21 you Muppet,

It's all ifs and buts. If Antrim had enough between 18/21 then they'd have a team.

Muppet? I'll take that as a compliment mate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2019, 07:59:59 AM
This has happened with a number of other clubs too. Seems very personalised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 21, 2019, 09:49:42 AM
Peter John is as coherent as Rab-C Nesbit chatting while sucking a cola-cube.

This is U21 competitive football PJ, if 2-3 lads cant hack pushing for a place because theyve accomodated 2 lads from another club then I dismay at the attitude of players in this County.

Wise up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 21, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
Peter John seems to be talking about a specific situation within Whitehill which seems to be personal to him. If any clubs committee agree to take on players from other clubs to strengthen their own squads within competitions then its up to that club to take whatever comes off the back of that. And agree with NatSoSaff, them guys who dont get picked at u20 level and drop off reserve just because 2/3 outside players come in, dont have the right attitude in the first place.

Cargin won the minor and Senior this year, and had to call 6/7 players out of retirement to even field an u20 team, but the 10/11 players that had trained all year, you can be sure the majority of them will play senior football at some stage. All about attitude, all clubs have drop outs at that age, but its the ones with a strong mentality which you want to remain playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 22, 2019, 08:56:12 AM
Every club has sanctions and transfers at under age, ours included. Hell it was happening when i was playing at underage level as well.

It happens all the time and all your doing is offering someone the chance to play at their own age ground due to their own club not having a team.

they train like all the other players, they turn up and they get picked to play by the management of whatever team they play for.

If someone doesn't like it and they walk away, thats life. if a person feels they should be playing then they do something about it themselves. At u21 level your an adult now so therefore walking away is your own choice. what use will this person be at senior level if they dont get on?

Ive spent plenty of years working at underage level and now at adult level. At underage level you ensure that everyone gets the same chances, energy and training given to them. You ensure they all get to play and have that chance. At adult level you do the same but you expect the players to deal with not getting on every single game as an adult.

if someone wants to quit and walk away at adult level i wont run after them and treat them like a child to come back again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 22, 2019, 09:46:59 AM
Any predictions for the U21 semis this weekend? Tasty clashes all round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2019, 10:27:03 AM
St brigids get many suspended over the rossa match ? Otherwise they would favorites in A championship
St Galls in the b
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 22, 2019, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2019, 10:27:03 AM
St brigids get many suspended over the rossa match ? Otherwise they would favorites in A championship
St Galls in the b

When will that decision be made?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2019, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 22, 2019, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 22, 2019, 10:27:03 AM
St brigids get many suspended over the rossa match ? Otherwise they would favorites in A championship
St Galls in the b

When will that decision be made?
The club gets notified 2/3 days after the match of the suspensions provide there are any
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 22, 2019, 02:22:24 PM
Didn't hear any news of suspensions but I hear that it was a nasty affair and there's bound to be some missing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 23, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
Brendan Antrim did u hear anything in BT9? No doubt Dunloy realist would like to know !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 23, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
Looks like posh Belfast is all choked up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
St Brigids will be hot favourites to retain their county under 21 title after a polished display against a Dunloy team that were severly curtailed by the unavailability of Deaghlin Smyth and Kaolan Molloy. Greg Finnegans team have the benefit of having most of his winning panel from last year still available and the return of  his son Joseph from his travels adds extra physical presence to a strong squad.

I wasnt sure whether to go to Glenravel or Ahoghill and it sounds like I missed a cracker between Tir Na Nog and Creggan in the other semi. Randalstown won on penalties and have a punchers chance in the final now with a bit of momentum building nicely these last couple of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 24, 2019, 05:00:45 PM
When I saW quarter final draw I thought St Brigids for A and St Galls for B and that prediction looking good
Bannside did St Brigids have any missing from the row last week? All seems very hush hush
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2019, 06:10:43 PM
Full squad to choose from from what I saw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 25, 2019, 08:20:42 AM
Bannside, any truth on Owen D stepping down in his role with PG1 under Dillon? Also any truth in Dillon having talks with Lavey and Newbridge behind scenes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2019, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 24, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
St Brigids will be hot favourites to retain their county under 21 title after a polished display against a Dunloy team that were severly curtailed by the unavailability of Deaghlin Smyth and Kaolan Molloy. Greg Finnegans team have the benefit of having most of his winning panel from last year still available and the return of  his son Joseph from his travels adds extra physical presence to a strong squad.

I wasnt sure whether to go to Glenravel or Ahoghill and it sounds like I missed a cracker between Tir Na Nog and Creggan in the other semi. Randalstown won on penalties and have a punchers chance in the final now with a bit of momentum building nicely these last couple of years.

losing two players of that quality really hurt us. that being said St Brigids were very good and were fully deserved of their win. they were hitting points from all over the place at the end of the game.

that and not being able to train together much with the seniors in the Ulster championship. the joys of being a dual club i suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on November 25, 2019, 09:53:11 AM
DR, maybe you should take a leaf from Sneil on how to balance both codes. I read your posts before, I think? where you have suggested its literally hurling all the way until the hurlers are beat, then football. Some of that tackling work from the football would help improve your hurling tackling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2019, 10:01:51 AM
No truth in those rumours at all Rodger Mona.

Agree DR, you hung in well for a while but those two missing were a huge loss. Very impressed with Conor Kinsella. Maybe he should have been on James Smyth from the start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2019, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: shawshank on November 25, 2019, 09:53:11 AM
DR, maybe you should take a leaf from Sneil on how to balance both codes. I read your posts before, I think? where you have suggested its literally hurling all the way until the hurlers are beat, then football. Some of that tackling work from the football would help improve your hurling tackling.

yeah its not worked this year at all, well in terms of the the football it hasnt. Im a strong supporter of both codes so its hard to watch one clearly being hampered to accommodate the other. the lads love playing hurling and football esp the likes of Deaglan, Keelan, Conor, Coby etc.

If anything after the Sneill match it convinced me more that we got it completely wrong in terms of how the two codes work together this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2019, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 25, 2019, 10:01:51 AM
No truth in those rumours at all Rodger Mona.

Agree DR, you hung in well for a while but those two missing were a huge loss. Very impressed with Conor Kinsella. Maybe he should have been on James Smyth from the start.

agree with you BS. i noticed that in the first half after the damage was done! lol to be fair the lad is a class act of a player and he caused us all sorts of problems.

against a team as good as Brigids you can ill afford to not have players like Deaglan and Keelan on the pitch but it was what it was and you can only play lads who are fit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2019, 10:43:51 AM
Sent you a pm there DR.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 25, 2019, 10:43:51 AM
Sent you a pm there DR.

no bother
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2019, 12:54:55 PM
All good DR. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 25, 2019, 02:45:53 PM
Disappointing result for our lads yesterday. To lead most of the game and then lose out on penalties was sickening. But fair play to TNN they fought hard to stay in the game and took the better penalties to clinch it.

We missed 2 or 3 really good goal chances but for all our forward talent we just didn't seem to gel as a team. Our full-back line were excellent but at midfield we were completely over ran and when we looked home and hosed at 12-9 we kept playing the ball backwards and sideways into trouble instead of killing the game off.

The Biddies look like they will be hard to stop in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2019, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 25, 2019, 02:45:53 PM
Disappointing result for our lads yesterday. To lead most of the game and then lose out on penalties was sickening. But fair play to TNN they fought hard to stay in the game and took the better penalties to clinch it.

We missed 2 or 3 really good goal chances but for all our forward talent we just didn't seem to gel as a team. Our full-back line were excellent but at midfield we were completely over ran and when we looked home and hosed at 12-9 we kept playing the ball backwards and sideways into trouble instead of killing the game off.

The Biddies look like they will be hard to stop in the final

Was horrible way to lose but as you said you'd most of the chances but failed to get away from Tir na og, they'll have some tired legs to get ready for the final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 26, 2019, 04:32:00 PM
Cranfield you were hard done by, horrible way to lose. From a neutrals perspective great game. Creggan would have fancied themselves if they had of had a fit panel from start of the year with quinn and small imparticular suffering bad injuries. It was a good victory for whitehill, one they as a club needed with all the work they have been doing they deserve a final. Especially when Creggan have stolen so many of their players over the years im sure whitehill from a clubs perspective are quite happy to get 1 of on their old rivals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 26, 2019, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on November 26, 2019, 04:32:00 PM
Cranfield you were hard done by, horrible way to lose. From a neutrals perspective great game. Creggan would have fancied themselves if they had of had a fit panel from start of the year with quinn and small imparticular suffering bad injuries. It was a good victory for whitehill, one they as a club needed with all the work they have been doing they deserve a final. Especially when Creggan have stolen so many of their players over the years im sure whitehill from a clubs perspective are quite happy to get 1 of on their old rivals.

What players have they stole?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 26, 2019, 10:04:57 PM
So Kickhams have been apparently robbing TNN over the years but are now paying a fairly hefty price because they have paid handsomely for senior football managers... Tens of thousands of hard earned members funds floating down the Bann. Swings and roundabouts me thinks, but both not good or desirable traits in a club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2019, 10:33:23 PM
Its good to see an emerging Randalstown, their investment in facilities and in youth starting to pay dividends. Got a good bunch of minors and obviously under 21s, should be the basis there of a squad that can kick on and get back to division one after a long spell in the middle divisions. Ronan Rocks has the reigns there next year, hes a good man for them, will get TNN playing with a bit of confidence.

Creggan members definitely seem to be saying enough is enough with regard to paying big bucks after going for big names over the years. Next year a big one for them too but they should have enough quality to be back in the mix with the panel they have. Problem now is theres half a dozen clubs saying the same thing. Which keeps it all much more interesting!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2019, 11:01:01 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 26, 2019, 10:56:07 PM
Big statement BS,out off curiosity,what has Ronan Rocks done in management to suggest he will take whitehill to div 1

I think the players would be the main reason to get out of div2!

You don't have to be a special manager to get promotion, if you've the right set of players with the right attitude you could do well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 26, 2019, 11:11:13 PM
It is true that a few Randalstown players over the years deflected to Creggan. In the same way cargin profited except they got a good one in Magill.

I'm sure if you go through many clubs there have been deflections at some point. Quite a few from  Bellaghy to portglenone at a time.

Nothing to do with members saying enough is enough Bannside. We have made significant progress the last few years that we know we must build on now.  We have had 4 top 2 league finishes a first ever senior league title and our first championship final in 40 years. Think we have also won the last 3 or 4 O'Cathan cups.

Despite interest from other outsiders, Gerard was appointed because he was deemed the best candidate. If I'm not mistaken your club have been paying managers the last 4 or 5 years. Has that been a good investment for Casement's?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2019, 11:36:02 PM
Cranfield, its well known Creggan have been paying top dollar for at least ten years. Mickey M, Paul Mc I, Kevin M.....lets just say Casements arnt throwing this kind of dollar around!!! And yes Gerard is a good man around a team. As I say youve enough quality to be around the top end of things...but youve been there for a while now and Creggans challenge is not only to maintain that - but to find the next level. No ones writing youse off lets put it that way!

Re Ronan Rocks...I have a strong feeling he will get a good response from Randalstown and produce them playing good confident football. You may not agree Peter John....but time will tell. Just my opinion! Wouldnt be the first time Im wrong but I would be surprised if theyre not a division one team this time next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 27, 2019, 09:22:29 AM
randalstown have a good squad of players at their disposal. the two games we had with them in the league were very tight games each time. never much between them.

If they have that injection of young lads going into the panel for them it can only be a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 27, 2019, 09:54:14 AM
Cranfield lets not bring Cargin into it, leave them for another day. I was just making  the point that, the victory Whitehill got at the weekend would of been a good bit sweeter given the players they have lost to you in the past and the rivalry youns have had over the years. At the end of the day Whitehill are Creggans real rivals. Historically and geographically,

Also bannside regarding paying management, take creggans appointments from Mickey Moran all them years ago to Madden more recently. Plus whatever Martin McElhennon got for coaching. For an investment made over a 12 year period id be expecting more of a return other than 2 leagues and 2 ocathan cups. Especially when antrim was a 2 or 3 horse race over the years. Theyve probably blew every other club in antrim  out of the water if we are talking about money spent on management. No other club in antrim comes near them. I dont think McNulty could do any worse than the other managers as Creggan have a very good crop of players. Though agree with Bannside, can he take them that step further....I dont think so
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 27, 2019, 09:59:07 AM
Very Tight Division next year BS     Very competitive

Moneyglass

Ballymena

Aldergrove

Should all be at the business end as well with good  flow of young talent to push them on. (All either single code clubs or football dominant which makes a big difference)

Dunloy dependent on the balance with the hurling would be very strong contenders if they went for it...plenty of young talent there. Close to favourites if they went for it

Glenravel consolidated well last year  some excellent talent (forwards) coming through their as well although it might take another year or two

Glenavy, St P's, Davitts, St T's, Sarsfield's well capable of being in the mix if they can get some early momentum

Ardoyne will be happy to consolidate

Brave prediction as to who will come out of Div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 27, 2019, 10:55:11 AM
RM - That's a bit like saying Moneyglass are Cargins real rivals. In terms of Senior football that rivalry has lay dormant for a long time.

But I take your point that the victory will have been sweet for them. They lost players to us which I thought at the time was wrong in the same way that their best player going to Cargin was wrong. Not acting judge but when a club nurture a player from youth you want to see him or her stay there regardless of differences of opinions or fallouts.

FFS Antrim has been a 2 horse race with Galls and Cargin winning 20 of the last 21 championships! But LD creggan johnnies and casements make up a top 6 in antrim as competitive as it's been in a long time which is a good thing.

Bannside - nice deflection on the top dollar remark. The last number of years Casements have been managed by two derry coaches well experienced in the club and county circuit. You may have come to the party later than us but you are well and truly there now


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 27, 2019, 12:05:41 PM
Well to be honest i would say St.Galls and Moneyglass are Cargins two rivals, though i take your point regarding whitehill. Last time i mind them playing Creggan at a senior level was in C'ship in toome when they came out victors that day. Couple years later i recall 3 or 4 of them Whitehill men were togging out for the Kickhams. But your right, up to each club to call whilst keeping their own players at the same time.

Bannside, tell us all, whens this Portglenone team going to come into fruition? Its been a brave while since that u21 c'ship/ Intermediate they won and these guys have had one decent year (this year), if you would call having 4 x drawn games in chsip a good year.

Comes back to the same issue that i think Creggan have had, why pump money into management teams who have no record of winning championships. Why not go for a man with a proven record with the players you have? You may as well be pissing against a wall. Thats why i think Cargins had success. Couldnt beat St.Galls, went and got brennan, then cassidy. I think you must have too much money to throw about or just have no faith in your own coaches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 27, 2019, 12:26:47 PM
Aslo to steer of the topic, i heard Lenny had an in house game on Sunday past, where he had called a few South West players up to attend (outside of the panel) along with a few others. Any man any insight to how that went and if any of the players invited on Sunday even went or performed? Could name drop a few but would rather hear it from someone who has better inside knowledge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 27, 2019, 02:26:06 PM
I have to admit reading recent posts has punctured my positive view of SW clubs - while I know about the paid coaches I didn't realise there was a Merrygoround of players between the clubs and Bellaghy too - I thought SW had it over the city in terms of you play for local club for life  through bad times and good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 27, 2019, 02:27:04 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 27, 2019, 01:39:00 PM
Surely BS will know, once lennys biggest critic, now lennys best friend, wonder why 🤦🏻‍♂️

BS has always talked sense, he calls it as he sees it. I think you're out of order there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 27, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 27, 2019, 02:26:06 PM
I have to admit reading recent posts has punctured my positive view of SW clubs - while I know about the paid coaches I didn't realise there was a Merrygoround of players between the clubs and Bellaghy too - I thought SW had it over the city in terms of you play for local club for life  through bad times and good

Belfast GAA man, there isn't a merry-go-round as has been reported, and Creggan do not have a poaching culture, there isn't a recruiting drive in the pubs in Randalstown!!!

Tir nNog players transferred into Creggan for a number of reasons, including;fallout with Whitehill management, married into Creggan families and moved into the area, and the last one, players who are unhappy with their team's commitment will move to the senior team.

If we look at the final last year, only the goalkeeper was an outsider, who has moved in I believe. All the rest came up through the ranks and the Creggan coaching program.

During the past 10 -15 years, Creggan have lost players to Whitehill, and players to Cargin. The biggest one was Gerard O'Boyle to Cargin, and the driver for him going to Cargin was not poaching, but a fallout within the Creggan club.

Creggan is a split parish club. Out in the Creggan Townland, half of Creggan players would live in the Duneene parish and half in Randalsown. So you get the situation where Kevin O'Boyle grew up within two miles of Creggan pitch and is a Cargin man and the McAteers / Maguire's / McAuley's / Duffins / Mc Canns  live in Cargin's heartland, but are Creggan men.

So the insult about Creggan being a poaching club is BS.

From a rivalry POV, as a Creggan lad who grew up in Cranfield, Cargin is our No 1 rival, while the Creggan townies would view Tir Na Nog as their No 1 rival.

Years ago, the Cargin / Creggan rivalry was fierce, as you had brothers and cousins going up against each other. If you looked at the pictures in the Irish News regarding Millquarter PS, the school was split 50 -50. Caralane and Creggan Ps would vary, but neither would be 100% Creggan or Cargin, and this is where the major rivalry exists.

If you asked the Toome based Cargin lads, they would prob point to Moneyglass being the big rivalry

So long story short,
Creggan as a poaching club = BS
Creggan paying too much on coaches = probably
Creggan - Cargin rivalry = Fierce
Creggan - Whitehill rivalry = Fierce (but from my POV, not as great as Cargin)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2019, 05:23:15 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 27, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 27, 2019, 02:26:06 PM
I have to admit reading recent posts has punctured my positive view of SW clubs - while I know about the paid coaches I didn't realise there was a Merrygoround of players between the clubs and Bellaghy too - I thought SW had it over the city in terms of you play for local club for life  through bad times and good

Belfast GAA man, there isn't a merry-go-round as has been reported, and Creggan do not have a poaching culture, there isn't a recruiting drive in the pubs in Randalstown!!!

Tir nNog players transferred into Creggan for a number of reasons, including;fallout with Whitehill management, married into Creggan families and moved into the area, and the last one, players who are unhappy with their team's commitment will move to the senior team.

If we look at the final last year, only the goalkeeper was an outsider, who has moved in I believe. All the rest came up through the ranks and the Creggan poaching program.

During the past 10 -15 years, Creggan have lost players to Whitehill, and players to Cargin. The biggest one was Gerard O'Boyle to Cargin, and the driver for him going to Cargin was not poaching, but a fallout within the Creggan club.

Creggan is a split parish club. Out in the Creggan Townland, half of Creggan players would live in the Duneene parish and half in Randalsown. So you get the situation where Kevin O'Boyle grew up within two miles of Creggan pitch and is a Cargin man and the McAteers / Maguire's / McAuley's / Duffins / Mc Canns  live in Cargin's heartland, but are Creggan men.

So the insult about Creggan being a poaching club is BS.

From a rivalry POV, as a Creggan lad who grew up in Cranfield, Cargin is our No 1 rival, while the Creggan townies would view Tir Na Nog as their No 1 rival.

Years ago, the Cargin / Creggan rivalry was fierce, as you had brothers and cousins going up against each other. If you looked at the pictures in the Irish News regarding Millquarter PS, the school was split 50 -50. Caralane and Creggan Ps would vary, but neither would be 100% Creggan or Cargin, and this is where the major rivalry exists.

If you asked the Toome based Cargin lads, they would prob point to Moneyglass being the big rivalry

So long story short,
Creggan as a poaching club = BS
Creggan paying too much on coaches = probably
Creggan - Cargin rivalry = Fierce
Creggan - Whitehill rivalry = Fierce (but from my POV, not as great as Cargin)

Fixed that...

Sorry couldn't resist  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2019, 06:30:22 PM
MR you're a bad man lol.

Peter John, you can go back over my posts for as far as you want and you won't find anywhere evidence that I'm a critic of Lenny. I was supportive of John Mc Keevers bid and made no secret of that. But Lenny was always a credible candidate...when you deliver an Andy Markham you earn that credibility.

Lenny knows this year is all about securing promotion. I think that will be achieved but a good start at home to Wexford on 26th January and away to Sligo the following week is crucial. A bit more positivity all round from genuine Antrim football supporters would be good. Theres been way too much negativity over the years!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
You're 100% right Roger Mona, it's time Portglenone delivered too. Definitely a few very middling years finishing 7th 5th and 6th in the league and only one decent championship year in all that time. 2020 a particularly big year for us. But I think we are still on a nice progress curve, a fair bit more to come, and that should leave us "thereabouts" next year. We don't fear anyone now when we have a full team out and we honestly couldnt have said that a few years ago.

The way I see it there is half a dozen good teams that can all beat each other, and even those could lose on any given day to a team in the bottom half. But theres no great team around atm! The St Galls team of a decade ago would beat anything around at the minute out the gate! The same goes for Cargin too. The upside of that is all games are more meaningful, nothing can be taken for granted, and as clubs strive to be the best, hopefully the overall standard of football will keep improving.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 27, 2019, 09:29:20 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 27, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 27, 2019, 02:26:06 PM
I have to admit reading recent posts has punctured my positive view of SW clubs - while I know about the paid coaches I didn't realise there was a Merrygoround of players between the clubs and Bellaghy too - I thought SW had it over the city in terms of you play for local club for life  through bad times and good

Belfast GAA man, there isn't a merry-go-round as has been reported, and Creggan do not have a poaching culture, there isn't a recruiting drive in the pubs in Randalstown!!!

Tir nNog players transferred into Creggan for a number of reasons, including;fallout with Whitehill management, married into Creggan families and moved into the area, and the last one, players who are unhappy with their team's commitment will move to the senior team.

If we look at the final last year, only the goalkeeper was an outsider, who has moved in I believe. All the rest came up through the ranks and the Creggan coaching program.

During the past 10 -15 years, Creggan have lost players to Whitehill, and players to Cargin. The biggest one was Gerard O'Boyle to Cargin, and the driver for him going to Cargin was not poaching, but a fallout within the Creggan club.

Creggan is a split parish club. Out in the Creggan Townland, half of Creggan players would live in the Duneene parish and half in Randalsown. So you get the situation where Kevin O'Boyle grew up within two miles of Creggan pitch and is a Cargin man and the McAteers / Maguire's / McAuley's / Duffins / Mc Canns  live in Cargin's heartland, but are Creggan men.

So the insult about Creggan being a poaching club is BS.

From a rivalry POV, as a Creggan lad who grew up in Cranfield, Cargin is our No 1 rival, while the Creggan townies would view Tir Na Nog as their No 1 rival.

Years ago, the Cargin / Creggan rivalry was fierce, as you had brothers and cousins going up against each other. If you looked at the pictures in the Irish News regarding Millquarter PS, the school was split 50 -50. Caralane and Creggan Ps would vary, but neither would be 100% Creggan or Cargin, and this is where the major rivalry exists.

If you asked the Toome based Cargin lads, they would prob point to Moneyglass being the big rivalry

So long story short,
Creggan as a poaching club = BS
Creggan paying too much on coaches = probably
Creggan - Cargin rivalry = Fierce
Creggan - Whitehill rivalry = Fierce (but from my POV, not as great as Cargin)
Those excuses you gave for boys transferring are a load of shit. Marrying into a family/moving into the parish is no credible reason, anybody normal would play for the club they're at as Creggan is is only 5 mins down the road anyway. "Unhappy at the commitment levels so transfers to the senior club" is laughable, poor excuse for being a glory hunter. Not criticising the club as I'd assume they'd take what they can get, but boys giving these excuses for a transfer need to take a good look at themselves. They're not moving county, they're moving 5 mins down the road.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 27, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
You're 100% right Roger Mona, it's time Portglenone delivered too. Definitely a few very middling years finishing 7th 5th and 6th in the league and only one decent championship year in all that time. 2020 a particularly big year for us. But I think we are still on a nice progress curve, a fair bit more to come, and that should leave us "thereabouts" next year. We don't fear anyone now when we have a full team out and we honestly couldnt have said that a few years ago.

The way I see it there is half a dozen good teams that can all beat each other, and even those could lose on any given day to a team in the bottom half. But theres no great team around atm! The St Galls team of a decade ago would beat anything around at the minute out the gate! The same goes for Cargin too. The upside of that is all games are more meaningful, nothing can be taken for granted, and as clubs strive to be the best, hopefully the overall standard of football will keep improving.

Enjoyed reading that. BS half glass full mentality has now progressed to thinking because Casements had a few draws they are ready to deliver😂 They haven't beat any of the big four. St Johns are not in that four, especially under Adams who imo is crap with no ability to change the course of the game. No attacking mind at all. You reference the St Galls team of ten yrs ago, ffs they would have beaten any team in any era. Best club team to have come out of Antrim, GOAT period. The current Cargin team have a championship winning mentality. You say 5/6 teams on a par 😳🙈 Yet Cargin have won four out of the five and on what I seen this year have a manager who can change a game. Your optimism gets ahead of you. Casements now putting themselves under pressure. Do you ever learn. My team Creggan have a bit to go to recover from this year, injuries to our young forwards played it part. I heard one of our posters referencing the O Cahan cup wins.That was cringe worthy reading 🥴 Big year for both our clubs BS. You might be better concentrating on winning a league to build your belief you are ready to step up. Hearing LD management have stepped down which is a surprise considering how close they went, strange call.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2019, 05:55:04 AM
Some good points DK. That's interesting about LD management...I didnt know that they stood down. Just because I say PG1 no longer fear anyone dosent mean I'm saying we are going to start winning all round us. Like others we are in the bunch but need as you say to be more  consistent, especially in the league. No problem at all agreeing with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 28, 2019, 07:45:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 27, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
You're 100% right Roger Mona, it's time Portglenone delivered too. Definitely a few very middling years finishing 7th 5th and 6th in the league and only one decent championship year in all that time. 2020 a particularly big year for us. But I think we are still on a nice progress curve, a fair bit more to come, and that should leave us "thereabouts" next year. We don't fear anyone now when we have a full team out and we honestly couldnt have said that a few years ago.

The way I see it there is half a dozen good teams that can all beat each other, and even those could lose on any given day to a team in the bottom half. But theres no great team around atm! The St Galls team of a decade ago would beat anything around at the minute out the gate! The same goes for Cargin too. The upside of that is all games are more meaningful, nothing can be taken for granted, and as clubs strive to be the best, hopefully the overall standard of football will keep improving.

Enjoyed reading that. BS half glass full mentality has now progressed to thinking because Casements had a few draws they are ready to deliver😂 They haven't beat any of the big four. St Johns are not in that four, especially under Adams who imo is crap with no ability to change the course of the game. No attacking mind at all. You reference the St Galls team of ten yrs ago, ffs they would have beaten any team in any era. Best club team to have come out of Antrim, GOAT period. The current Cargin team have a championship winning mentality. You say 5/6 teams on a par 😳🙈 Yet Cargin have won four out of the five and on what I seen this year have a manager who can change a game. Your optimism gets ahead of you. Casements now putting themselves under pressure. Do you ever learn. My team Creggan have a bit to go to recover from this year, injuries to our young forwards played it part. I heard one of our posters referencing the O Cahan cup wins.That was cringe worthy reading 🥴 Big year for both our clubs BS. You might be better concentrating on winning a league to build your belief you are ready to step up. Hearing LD management have stepped down which is a surprise considering how close they went, strange call.

I think creggan should concentrate on winning championships and not leagues DK IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 08:30:49 AM
Dunsilly King, for a creggan man u speak alot of sense. lol.

Bannside i love your optimism though i fear sometimes you are blinded by it.  PG1 are still a while off yet. they are a good hard working bunch of lads but lack any pedigree up front, and when the games in the balance they lack the know how to get them over the line. They may not fear anyone, but likewise there is not many in the league that fear them. I hope they stay grounded and and kick on from last year, though i suspect a few of their lads may get ahead of themselves. A bit like creggan did after that final last year. The build up to that, reaching the final, winning an O'C cup and level expectation for this year past really took it out of them.

where you had lamh dearg who were disapointed with the year they had prior , played like men possessed this year.

Hats off to cargin, they are a hateful enough bunch but deserve alot of credit. as meat loaf would say... "2 out of 3 (cough) 4 out of 5 aint bad"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 28, 2019, 09:44:37 AM
I'd be surprised if LD management team stood down.. Unless they 1) married into another parish 2) fell out with club (lmao) or 3) went elsewhere for better commitment from players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 28, 2019, 09:56:55 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on November 28, 2019, 07:45:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 27, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 27, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
You're 100% right Roger Mona, it's time Portglenone delivered too. Definitely a few very middling years finishing 7th 5th and 6th in the league and only one decent championship year in all that time. 2020 a particularly big year for us. But I think we are still on a nice progress curve, a fair bit more to come, and that should leave us "thereabouts" next year. We don't fear anyone now when we have a full team out and we honestly couldnt have said that a few years ago.

The way I see it there is half a dozen good teams that can all beat each other, and even those could lose on any given day to a team in the bottom half. But theres no great team around atm! The St Galls team of a decade ago would beat anything around at the minute out the gate! The same goes for Cargin too. The upside of that is all games are more meaningful, nothing can be taken for granted, and as clubs strive to be the best, hopefully the overall standard of football will keep improving.

Enjoyed reading that. BS half glass full mentality has now progressed to thinking because Casements had a few draws they are ready to deliver😂 They haven't beat any of the big four. St Johns are not in that four, especially under Adams who imo is crap with no ability to change the course of the game. No attacking mind at all. You reference the St Galls team of ten yrs ago, ffs they would have beaten any team in any era. Best club team to have come out of Antrim, GOAT period. The current Cargin team have a championship winning mentality. You say 5/6 teams on a par 😳🙈 Yet Cargin have won four out of the five and on what I seen this year have a manager who can change a game. Your optimism gets ahead of you. Casements now putting themselves under pressure. Do you ever learn. My team Creggan have a bit to go to recover from this year, injuries to our young forwards played it part. I heard one of our posters referencing the O Cahan cup wins.That was cringe worthy reading 🥴 Big year for both our clubs BS. You might be better concentrating on winning a league to build your belief you are ready to step up. Hearing LD management have stepped down which is a surprise considering how close they went, strange call.

I think creggan should concentrate on winning championships and not leagues DK IMO

Where did you read that I said Creggan should concentrate on winning leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 10:40:14 AM
In fairness there is some craic on here at the minute.

Dunsilly King pretending to be a Creggan supporter my personal favorite  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 10:59:53 AM
Cranfield how can we be sure you are a creggan supporter and not an ex White Hill'ian?

How can we be sure Bannside is an out and out pg1 man and not an ex All-Saints top scorer?

im taking dunsilly king at his word, if creggan can pull men from Whitehill they may heave stretched on out to the antrim area and if im not mistaken they had a wee lad from st.comgalls who signed last year? seen him play few reserve games and come on a few senior games??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 11:10:52 AM
Have you never read his posts ye mad man  :o

The wee lad from antrim that you mentioned trained a couple of times but never kicked a ball for us so don't know what you were watching

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 11:55:56 AM
Thats a lie. That lad played reserve cship, reserve league and came on a number of senior games. I think he may however have transferred back to Antrim according to St.Comgalls men. Dont think his move panned out the way he wanted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 28, 2019, 12:00:27 PM
The Antrim lad either fell out with management, married back into Antrim or moved back for greater commitment levels.. Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2019, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 28, 2019, 12:00:27 PM
The Antrim lad either fell out with management, married back into Antrim or moved back for greater commitment levels.. Lol

Or all three!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
RM - Are you sure?  ::)

I double checked there and I have been told that that lad did play in the first reserve league game of the year so apologies about that!

He then packed it in. So he definitely didn't play in ANY senior games or in the reserve championship which didn't get going til August



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
palyed reserve c'ship and came on v cargin in toome. I was there when visiting in laws so saw it for myself. But sure it doesnt matter. The wee mans away to the place he never should have left.

Cranfield, did uns not have another guy signed for you as last couple years from lissan or somewhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 12:29:34 PM
I'm trying to think who you might be confusing him with but not sure.

Yes we had a fella Coey from Lissan who is married and living in Creggan



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 28, 2019, 01:02:50 PM
jaysus lads some clutch burning arguments here about a fella playing a few games and then not playing again and moving to another club lol

who opened this can of worms in the first place!! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 01:51:23 PM
Fair enough DR. Consider the matter closed  :-X

Has anyone seen the makeup of the county panel for this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2019, 02:10:29 PM
Pass me the popcorn lads...

County panel has lads like Eamon Fyfe who aren't good enough  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
Starred for Antrim underage

Fit to make Queens team

Knows where the net is

Think he qualifies PJ - When Glenravel get a man onto a county panel it's nearly always a good one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 28, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
i blame MR2 for everything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 03:21:47 PM
Not an argument just a conversation whilst all u other boys were away picking spuds.

Heard John Carron was back in panel. ruari mccann, owen mckeown, chris mcveigh,dermott mcerlain, ruari scott  and Conal Delargy all got texts to attend an in house game to get a look at them. Other than that iv nothing fresh

BS can you shed any light
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2019, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 28, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
i blame MR2 for everything.

Season is over for me so, gloves are off  ;)

So for the Cargin lads, what is the problem at Ulster? This year I really couldn't blame anyone on this, as there was a lot of tired legs out there against Derrygonnelly and to be fair to the Fermanagh lads, they were/are a decent team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 03:58:14 PM
Yea be interesting to know a Cargin perspective on their poor results in Ulster.

id say  your right MR2,  tired legs, played a a final plus a replay,  plus 8+ mins injury time when they had been 4 points up.... which forced extra time.

Duckser must of requested fergie time

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2019, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on November 28, 2019, 03:58:14 PM
Yea be interesting to know a Cargin perspective on their poor results in Ulster.

id say  your right MR2,  tired legs, played a a final plus a replay,  plus 8+ mins injury time when they had been 4 points up.... which forced extra time.

Duckser must of requested fergie time

Those lads were well aware of the timing lol. Only one watch on the pitch to adhere to !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 28, 2019, 04:52:06 PM
So to summarize SW transfers mentioned so far
Bellaghy to pg1
Randalstown to creggan
Antrim to creggan
Creggan to Cargin
Creggan to Antrim
Randalstown to cargin
Maybe the LD lads quit as they didn't get their transfer targets !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2019, 04:59:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 28, 2019, 04:52:06 PM
So to summarize SW transfers mentioned so far
Bellaghy to pg1
Randalstown to creggan
Antrim to creggan
Creggan to Cargin
Creggan to Antrim
Randalstown to cargin
Maybe the LD lads quit as they didn't get their transfer targets !

That's only among those clubs ;D To be fair there are a couple in there that are really due to circumstance. I think you could discount the Creggan to Cargin one anyway. I still think there's not that many. You'll always get some with politics etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2019, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 28, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
Starred for Antrim underage

Fit to make Queens team

Knows where the net is

Think he qualifies PJ - When Glenravel get a man onto a county panel it's nearly always a good one


I was being sarcastic. See peter Johns post a few pages back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2019, 07:26:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 28, 2019, 04:52:06 PM
So to summarize SW transfers mentioned so far
Bellaghy to pg1
Randalstown to creggan
Antrim to creggan
Creggan to Cargin
Creggan to Antrim
Randalstown to cargin
Maybe the LD lads quit as they didn't get their transfer targets !

Do the SW lads drive around in a mini bus and poach players? or go 3/4 generations back and take players due to that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2019, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 18, 2019, 09:36:14 PM
Eamonn fyfe is not county standard even at div 4 level, and for what it's worth, commitment would be an issue there


:-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 29, 2019, 08:28:46 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 28, 2019, 04:52:06 PM
So to summarize SW transfers mentioned so far
Bellaghy to pg1
Randalstown to creggan
Antrim to creggan
Creggan to Cargin
Creggan to Antrim
Randalstown to cargin
Maybe the LD lads quit as they didn’t get their transfer targets !

add ahoghill to pg1 in there and if I'm not mistaken rtown have an ex creggan forward playing for them at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 29, 2019, 09:01:33 AM
Who are the Bellaghy players supposedly playing for Portglenone? I wasn't aware of this.

Eamonn Fyfe is a good young player. Fair play to him for making the commitment. We cant fault the lads who are prepared to give it a go!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 29, 2019, 09:04:39 AM
Also let's not bother getting into the transfer policies of the Belfast clubs over the years or we will be here till Christmas!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 29, 2019, 10:16:52 AM
 ;D
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2019, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 18, 2019, 09:36:14 PM
Eamonn fyfe is not county standard even at div 4 level, and for what it's worth, commitment would be an issue there


:-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 29, 2019, 10:28:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2019, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 28, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
i blame MR2 for everything.

Season is over for me so, gloves are off  ;)

So for the Cargin lads, what is the problem at Ulster? This year I really couldn't blame anyone on this, as there was a lot of tired legs out there against Derrygonnelly and to be fair to the Fermanagh lads, they were/are a decent team.

4 championships in 5 seasons is some success in fairness and would be the envy of most clubs apart from St.Galls.

But at the same time 0 wins in Ulster for a team with that experience and quality has to be a bit of a failure?

Usually when a team has that roll of titles in a short space of time they make some sort of impact in Ulster.

Likss of Kilcoo, Scotstown, Cross, Slaughtneil and then Derrygonnelly this year won 2 matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2019, 10:57:49 AM
He's a young guy peterjohn. You are very harsh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: Peter john on November 29, 2019, 10:44:45 AM
Commitment to me is sticking it out for the season,if im proved wrong ill hold my hands up, lets just see how many games he starts in div 4 🤷🏻‍♂️

He got a placement in the states as far as I know as thats where he went.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2019, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: Caesar on November 29, 2019, 09:04:39 AM
Also let's not bother getting into the transfer policies of the Belfast clubs over the years or we will be here till Christmas!

Please shout out the Belfast clubs transfers. The SW clubs have been getting it in the neck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 01:05:44 PM
Pollock and Nugent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 29, 2019, 01:25:20 PM
pollock nugent, about 30 aldegrove men to lamh dearg, fitzpatrick in fact started at st.galls under age, the amount of GNMona men who left to go to OD's for the offer of free pints after games

and dont get me started on st. brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
Did the lord mayor not play for St Endas? Niall Ward played for Sars and then St Pauls and now Lisburn I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 29, 2019, 02:21:10 PM
Dont think he Niall Ward played for Sarsfields, his father and uncles did but not him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 29, 2019, 02:28:59 PM
PG1 indeed did facilitate a few transfers from across the Bann in their time, can think of three in particular who were living or married in PG1 but from Bellaghy/South Derry stock. It should be noted that this occurrence was eleven years ago and every current player on the present senior panel has been born and bred in the parish. Weve been trying hard to convince Justin Crozier and Tomas Mc Cann to swap allegiance( they now live in the parishtoo) but so far to no avail!

Hood Hearted meanwhile has had more clubs than John Daly. Right or wrong Big G?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on November 29, 2019, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
Did the lord mayor not play for St Endas? Niall Ward played for Sars and then St Pauls and now Lisburn I think.

a year for st johns after st pauls to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
thats probably a team folding. Eire Og struggle to field at juvenile level and are in amalgamations most of the time I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
thats probably a team folding. Eire Og struggle to field at juvenile level and are in amalgamations most of the time I think

Surely that doesn't help their cause. Poaching players isn't very sporting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
thats probably a team folding. Eire Og struggle to field at juvenile level and are in amalgamations most of the time I think

Surely that doesn't help their cause. Poaching players isn't very sporting

Poaching?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 09:18:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
thats probably a team folding. Eire Og struggle to field at juvenile level and are in amalgamations most of the time I think

Surely that doesn't help their cause. Poaching players isn't very sporting

Poaching?

Yeah.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 29, 2019, 09:39:22 PM
So what are we saying here that if a player wants to transfer to another club they should be refused entry?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 09:18:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
thats probably a team folding. Eire Og struggle to field at juvenile level and are in amalgamations most of the time I think

Surely that doesn't help their cause. Poaching players isn't very sporting

Poaching?

Yeah.

So they were illegally stole from another club? Poaching definition, in case you are confused with players willingly changing clubs for their own personal reasons.

A bit unfair to say that or post that about lads you've no idea as to why. But hey carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 09:18:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 29, 2019, 03:21:56 PM
I remember looking at last years list of transfers and and I think I counted 9 from Eire Og transferring to St Galls😳

Surely not....
thats probably a team folding. Eire Og struggle to field at juvenile level and are in amalgamations most of the time I think

Surely that doesn't help their cause. Poaching players isn't very sporting

Poaching?

Yeah.

So they were illegally stole from another club? Poaching definition, in case you are confused with players willingly changing clubs for their own personal reasons.

A bit unfair to say that or post that about lads you've no idea as to why. But hey carry on

Sure it has went on all week about Creggan so if you can't beat them, join them. 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 11:03:04 PM
Also did that St Galls Burke's not play for McDermotts at underage before they folded?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 11:03:04 PM
Also did that St Galls Burke's not play for McDermotts at underage before they folded?

He actually comes from a Mitchell's family which didn't have juvenile. But carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 06:46:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 11:03:04 PM
Also did that St Galls Burke's not play for McDermotts at underage before they folded?

He actually comes from a Mitchell's family which didn't have juvenile. But carry on

Thanks for clearing that up for me mate.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 08:10:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 06:46:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2019, 11:03:04 PM
Also did that St Galls Burke's not play for McDermotts at underage before they folded?

He actually comes from a Mitchell's family which didn't have juvenile. But carry on

Thanks for clearing that up for me mate.

Not a bother, knowing Sean he'd be happy to fill you in, with anything else you want to know ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting

Surely that's a failing on the divisional board though, no effort in keeping clubs going and arranging games for them. Look at the blitzes organised every Sunday in SW and NA. St Endas only started to achieve success when they left SA and came to the SW and NA underage leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting

Surely that's a failing on the divisional board though, no effort in keeping clubs going and arranging games for them. Look at the blitzes organised every Sunday in SW and NA. St Endas only started to achieve success when they left SA and came to the SW and NA underage leagues.

Was Sean Stinsons a failure of the SW boards having teams amalgamate? Or the current under age hurling amalgamation is that a failure of the NA board?

Who do you blame for the poor showing outside of Cargin for SW senior championships?

You're a laugh PJ, you SW ones were tearing strips out of yourselves on here and you thought I'll start a Belfast bashing post!

Your first attempt was pathetic as you couldn't even get the club right, your knowledge of Belfast clubs was summed up perfectly and your silly attempt at using St Endas as platform for upping the SW is wrong also and a disservice to the hardworking volunteers within that club who've set up a community Irish hub, has nowt to do with the SW and more about the geography and numbers in that area, and with the help of some blow ins  ;)

Hopefully more SW teams can push Cargin in the future but I doubt it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
You've a lot to answer for MR2! Poaching players and you robbed us at the start of the year too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
You've a lot to answer for MR2! Poaching players and you robbed us at the start of the year too.

Ah! Poor display against a team you be beating every week!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 30, 2019, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting
Well Belfast GAA man, glory hunting eh...Plenty of that in Belfast.
Best example Pollock from GnM to St Galls...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 06:39:48 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 30, 2019, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting
Well Belfast GAA man, glory hunting eh...Plenty of that in Belfast.
Best example Pollock from GnM to St Galls...
i wouldn't disagree with that and McGill to Cargin from Randalstown comes To mind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting

Surely that's a failing on the divisional board though, no effort in keeping clubs going and arranging games for them. Look at the blitzes organised every Sunday in SW and NA. St Endas only started to achieve success when they left SA and came to the SW and NA underage leagues.

Was Sean Stinsons a failure of the SW boards having teams amalgamate? Or the current under age hurling amalgamation is that a failure of the NA board?

Who do you blame for the poor showing outside of Cargin for SW senior championships?

You're a laugh PJ, you SW ones were tearing strips out of yourselves on here and you thought I'll start a Belfast bashing post!

Your first attempt was pathetic as you couldn't even get the club right, your knowledge of Belfast clubs was summed up perfectly and your silly attempt at using St Endas as platform for upping the SW is wrong also and a disservice to the hardworking volunteers within that club who've set up a community Irish hub, has nowt to do with the SW and more about the geography and numbers in that area, and with the help of some blow ins  ;)

Hopefully more SW teams can push Cargin in the future but I doubt it

I'd say the Stinsons team was more to help keep the game alive during very testing times in both Ahoghill & PG1, the troubles happened outside of the big smoke also ye know.

I was at the SW meeting the evening the St Endas rep spoke about wanting to move and the reasons for it, plain and simple there wasn't enough being done to promote the games in the city. The work being done in St Endas has been and will continue to make the club great and fair play to them but clearly playing in better run divisional board has helped.  I also attended the convention around 2010/2011 in Dunsilly and heard that there was only 5 games completed at U16 level in Football in SA that year.

I'm not Belfast bashing at all either and my knowledge of Belfast clubs is 100%.. I've reffed and played at majority of them during my time.

You'd better watch in case that chip falls off your shoulder mate.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2019, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting

Surely that's a failing on the divisional board though, no effort in keeping clubs going and arranging games for them. Look at the blitzes organised every Sunday in SW and NA. St Endas only started to achieve success when they left SA and came to the SW and NA underage leagues.

Was Sean Stinsons a failure of the SW boards having teams amalgamate? Or the current under age hurling amalgamation is that a failure of the NA board?

Who do you blame for the poor showing outside of Cargin for SW senior championships?

You're a laugh PJ, you SW ones were tearing strips out of yourselves on here and you thought I'll start a Belfast bashing post!

Your first attempt was pathetic as you couldn't even get the club right, your knowledge of Belfast clubs was summed up perfectly and your silly attempt at using St Endas as platform for upping the SW is wrong also and a disservice to the hardworking volunteers within that club who've set up a community Irish hub, has nowt to do with the SW and more about the geography and numbers in that area, and with the help of some blow ins  ;)

Hopefully more SW teams can push Cargin in the future but I doubt it

I'd say the Stinsons team was more to help keep the game alive during very testing times in both Ahoghill & PG1, the troubles happened outside of the big smoke also ye know.

I was at the SW meeting the evening the St Endas rep spoke about wanting to move and the reasons for it, plain and simple there wasn't enough being done to promote the games in the city. The work being done in St Endas has been and will continue to make the club great and fair play to them but clearly playing in better run divisional board has helped.  I also attended the convention around 2010/2011 in Dunsilly and heard that there was only 5 games completed at U16 level in Football in SA that year.

I'm not Belfast bashing at all either and my knowledge of Belfast clubs is 100%.. I've reffed and played at majority of them during my time.

You'd better watch in case that chip falls off your shoulder mate.

No chip, you started the bashing, no one is disagreeing about the state of the running of the leagues. That's why galefast is in place, Belfast needs to look at it's current set up and through very unfortunate events lately with the untimely death of Herron, there will be some changes.

If your knowledge of Belfast clubs was good you'd have known that the Burke's played juvenile for St Galls's, not McDermotts and the lack of divisional games in Belfast has not restricted them in winning championships Ulster's or even All Ireland's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2019, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2019, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting

Surely that's a failing on the divisional board though, no effort in keeping clubs going and arranging games for them. Look at the blitzes organised every Sunday in SW and NA. St Endas only started to achieve success when they left SA and came to the SW and NA underage leagues.

Was Sean Stinsons a failure of the SW boards having teams amalgamate? Or the current under age hurling amalgamation is that a failure of the NA board?

Who do you blame for the poor showing outside of Cargin for SW senior championships?

You're a laugh PJ, you SW ones were tearing strips out of yourselves on here and you thought I'll start a Belfast bashing post!

Your first attempt was pathetic as you couldn't even get the club right, your knowledge of Belfast clubs was summed up perfectly and your silly attempt at using St Endas as platform for upping the SW is wrong also and a disservice to the hardworking volunteers within that club who've set up a community Irish hub, has nowt to do with the SW and more about the geography and numbers in that area, and with the help of some blow ins  ;)

Hopefully more SW teams can push Cargin in the future but I doubt it

I'd say the Stinsons team was more to help keep the game alive during very testing times in both Ahoghill & PG1, the troubles happened outside of the big smoke also ye know.

I was at the SW meeting the evening the St Endas rep spoke about wanting to move and the reasons for it, plain and simple there wasn't enough being done to promote the games in the city. The work being done in St Endas has been and will continue to make the club great and fair play to them but clearly playing in better run divisional board has helped.  I also attended the convention around 2010/2011 in Dunsilly and heard that there was only 5 games completed at U16 level in Football in SA that year.

I'm not Belfast bashing at all either and my knowledge of Belfast clubs is 100%.. I've reffed and played at majority of them during my time.

You'd better watch in case that chip falls off your shoulder mate.

No chip, you started the bashing, no one is disagreeing about the state of the running of the leagues. That's why galefast is in place, Belfast needs to look at it's current set up and through very unfortunate events lately with the untimely death of Herron, there will be some changes.

If your knowledge of Belfast clubs was good you'd have known that the Burke's played juvenile for St Galls's, not McDermotts and the lack of divisional games in Belfast has not restricted them in winning championships Ulster's or even All Ireland's.

How's the Un21 final going?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2019, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2019, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2019, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Mitchells no juveniles / McDermotts club gone / St Aggies, Eire Og , Colin gaels rarely can field at u12 upwards so kids going from them to clubs that can field is not poaching - the SW examples provided the SW posters were all from clubs that were fielding and look more like glory hunting

Surely that's a failing on the divisional board though, no effort in keeping clubs going and arranging games for them. Look at the blitzes organised every Sunday in SW and NA. St Endas only started to achieve success when they left SA and came to the SW and NA underage leagues.

Was Sean Stinsons a failure of the SW boards having teams amalgamate? Or the current under age hurling amalgamation is that a failure of the NA board?

Who do you blame for the poor showing outside of Cargin for SW senior championships?

You're a laugh PJ, you SW ones were tearing strips out of yourselves on here and you thought I'll start a Belfast bashing post!

Your first attempt was pathetic as you couldn't even get the club right, your knowledge of Belfast clubs was summed up perfectly and your silly attempt at using St Endas as platform for upping the SW is wrong also and a disservice to the hardworking volunteers within that club who've set up a community Irish hub, has nowt to do with the SW and more about the geography and numbers in that area, and with the help of some blow ins  ;)

Hopefully more SW teams can push Cargin in the future but I doubt it

I'd say the Stinsons team was more to help keep the game alive during very testing times in both Ahoghill & PG1, the troubles happened outside of the big smoke also ye know.

I was at the SW meeting the evening the St Endas rep spoke about wanting to move and the reasons for it, plain and simple there wasn't enough being done to promote the games in the city. The work being done in St Endas has been and will continue to make the club great and fair play to them but clearly playing in better run divisional board has helped.  I also attended the convention around 2010/2011 in Dunsilly and heard that there was only 5 games completed at U16 level in Football in SA that year.

I'm not Belfast bashing at all either and my knowledge of Belfast clubs is 100%.. I've reffed and played at majority of them during my time.

You'd better watch in case that chip falls off your shoulder mate.

No chip, you started the bashing, no one is disagreeing about the state of the running of the leagues. That's why galefast is in place, Belfast needs to look at it's current set up and through very unfortunate events lately with the untimely death of Herron, there will be some changes.

If your knowledge of Belfast clubs was good you'd have known that the Burke's played juvenile for St Galls's, not McDermotts and the lack of divisional games in Belfast has not restricted them in winning championships Ulster's or even All Ireland's.

How's the Un21 final going?

Hammering session which tells me we were in the wrong grade. last weekends game was possibly the final, as is the case for the A grade final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2019, 05:02:31 PM
100% the wrong grade MR. Take care of that nice Roger Casement Centenary memorial cup!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
Two under 21 A championships in a row for St Brigids. Superb achievement - if this dosent kick start a memorable priod for the South Belfast men then nothing will. All achieved with the same group the whole way from under 16 and upwards managed by Greg Finnegan and with his own lads Patrick and Joseph leading from the front! Hard luck to Randalstown they had a lot of chances in the first 15 mins could have been well in front. They should be back again too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2019, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 01, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
Two under 21 A championships in a row for St Brigids. Superb achievement - if this dosent kick start a memorable priod for the South Belfast men then nothing will. All achieved with the same group the whole way from under 16 and upwards managed by Greg Finnegan and with his own lads Patrick and Joseph leading from the front! Hard luck to Randalstown they had a lot of chances in the first 15 mins could have been well in front. They should be back again too.

It's even more remarkable considering how bad the Belfast structures are and lack of games these lads have played..
8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on December 01, 2019, 08:20:20 PM
Another epic v Carryduff would be the ticket!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 02, 2019, 08:48:29 AM
Holy Ghost, iv beeen away all weekend coaching and look what iv missed. PJ and MR2 going at it hammer and tong with BS chipping in on analyses.

Thats what makes this a great discussion board.

Congrats on the two finals being won by two city teams by the way. Poor showing from Whitehill all the same.

Any man any news on the county seniors at the moment. alot of rumours circulating  as to who has been called up and who is standing out. Still think we are lacking in physicality around the middle and BS is there any truth in Lenny allowing a Cargin contingency of Mick, John C, Kobo and Justin along with Niall McKeever, Pollock, and M.Armstrong to come in at start of Nat League?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 02, 2019, 02:40:45 PM
Could u not tell from the Holy Ghost...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
Rodger you're going to have to sack your informant. Not a chance of those names returning en bloc for the NFL. Take that from me! Although I'd be sure Lenny has indeed touched base with all or most of them at some stage! Then theres the 6 names who supposedly got a message to take part in a trial game - in house match Sunday week ago. The three I checked out didnt hear a dicky bird!

Before that you asserted other nonsense about the PG1 management stepping down.  At this stage I say fair play to you, you are most definitely a serious contender for WUM of the year lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 03, 2019, 04:38:15 PM
BS if i cant put stuff im hearing up on this to seek clarity where else a i going to find these things out?

There are men on here with inside knowledge who can shed light on the things us nobles cant.

As for the PG1 management there was an element of truth within that though it never transpired. Dillon has stayed as hes getting a good rate for the job hes doing. So fair play to him.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on December 03, 2019, 05:05:07 PM
Dillon on £15k a year...take that as gospel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 03, 2019, 07:13:35 PM
You couldnt do a thing like that Loughshore!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 03, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on December 03, 2019, 05:05:07 PM
Dillon on £15k a year...take that as gospel
net or gross ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 03, 2019, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
Welcome Latharna. Developing Larne is a big ask but not impossible....especially if Gaelfast coaches go in for a few years and light the spark. Maybe start with an under 12 and under 14 team, that would be enough to get started if there were half a dozen mentors capable of looking after this and stepping up to under 16s in a few years. Wouldnt look any further than this to begin with. Good thing about Gaelfast is, they will also coach the coaches, so thats a huge bonus too.
Larne needs help but I see Gaelfast were in Carryduff. Do Carryduff really struggle... seems a strange pick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2019, 08:32:32 PM
150 at their early primary school sessions. A club on the up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2019, 09:09:39 AM
Strange pick alright . B good to know what the plan is as it is s confusing picture from outside. I'm sure some clubs are wondering what it is for them when they See that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 04, 2019, 09:16:37 AM
Is Gaelfast an Antrim initiative? Carryduff is a Down club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2019, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 03, 2019, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
Welcome Latharna. Developing Larne is a big ask but not impossible....especially if Gaelfast coaches go in for a few years and light the spark. Maybe start with an under 12 and under 14 team, that would be enough to get started if there were half a dozen mentors capable of looking after this and stepping up to under 16s in a few years. Wouldnt look any further than this to begin with. Good thing about Gaelfast is, they will also coach the coaches, so thats a huge bonus too.
Larne needs help but I see Gaelfast were in Carryduff. Do Carryduff really struggle... seems a strange pick

They do at hurling.

Gaelfast is a Belfast initiative supported by both Down and Antrim.

Wonder if Gaelfast will wing its way down the peninsula if it's able to go to Larne?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2019, 10:17:43 AM
Do they really Johnny? They are way better than they were a few years ago and sure they have even won some down underage championships have they not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2019, 11:57:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2019, 10:17:43 AM
Do they really Johnny? They are way better than they were a few years ago and sure they have even won some down underage championships have they not?

They did about 10 years ago then didn't field in a lot of underage age groups up until recently.

They seem dependent on the parents of the kids having a GAA background as they've U12's and U14's with a few Portaferry and Lavey natives along the line.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on December 04, 2019, 03:16:55 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 03, 2019, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 10, 2019, 08:10:50 AM
Welcome Latharna. Developing Larne is a big ask but not impossible....especially if Gaelfast coaches go in for a few years and light the spark. Maybe start with an under 12 and under 14 team, that would be enough to get started if there were half a dozen mentors capable of looking after this and stepping up to under 16s in a few years. Wouldnt look any further than this to begin with. Good thing about Gaelfast is, they will also coach the coaches, so thats a huge bonus too.
Larne needs help but I see Gaelfast were in Carryduff. Do Carryduff really struggle... seems a strange pick

Last time I heard they were this year's Antrim JHC 'B' Champions after a few years in the wilderness..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 04, 2019, 04:46:40 PM
Hereson for you all to ponder. Was  arguing with a man earlier with this one. He told me "no team in antrim would be capable of winning the derry Senior Championship" and "antrims top 4 would be lucky to make top 6 in Derry"

I tend to disagree, i think Antrims big 3, Cargin, Lamh Dearg and St.galls would beat most teams in Derry.

Any opinions on this? Would like to hear from the SW contingency, as to their thoughts on this,as they probably watch more football across the divide than the rest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 04, 2019, 04:59:55 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 04, 2019, 04:46:40 PM
Hereson for you all to ponder. Was  arguing with a man earlier with this one. He told me "no team in antrim would be capable of winning the derry Senior Championship" and "antrims top 4 would be lucky to make top 6 in Derry"

I tend to disagree, i think Antrims big 3, Cargin, Lamh Dearg and St.galls would beat most teams in Derry.

Any opinions on this? Would like to hear from the SW contingency, as to their thoughts on this,as they probably watch more football across the divide than the rest
I would tend to agree with him. Not one of Antrims clubs would win their championship think thats fairly obvious, although a few have the potential to make their top 6.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2019, 05:07:51 PM
Derry club football has always been a good bit stronger with the exception of the St Galls team.

This year aside Derry always do well in ulster. (Coleraine and Slaughtneil). We can barely win a game these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2019, 05:11:14 PM
IMO for many years the only Antrim teams that could have made division one in Derry would be St Galls and Cargin. But that has changed. Right now I'd say the top six teams in Antrim would hold their own with the top six in Derry. Thats not because Antrim standard has improved all of a sudden, it's more down to Derry having levelled off and no longer having a superpower with the present exception of Slaughtneil.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ON THE HILL on December 05, 2019, 08:12:44 AM
antrim teams would hold there own in league in derry...as most teams dont care about league...but they are way off winning a derry championship..ulster club has showing that..just not good enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 08:13:02 AM
BS, S'Neil havnt won a cship i 2 years. Yes a brilliant team but outside of that theres not much in derry IMO.

As for antrims top 6 who are we talking about here? Cargin , LD, Johnnies, Galls PG1 then Creggan?

The likes of LD, Cargin and perhaps Galls on their day i feel could hold their own in Derry. As for the rest I havnt seen much in terms of C'Ship pedigree that would suggest otherwise. I think the other 3 teams would struggle with the physicallity and would be lacking a bit of fire power up front
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 09:54:32 AM
If they're brilliant and haven't won a c'ship in 2 years though then surely the teams beating them must be pretty good...

Irish News doing a team of last 20 years for each county apparently(I rarely buy it these days). Any antrim team in it or anyone pick a team?

I would say 09 would probably dominate it. At least we have more wins in this last 20 than the previous 20 lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 05, 2019, 10:06:19 AM
I have watched plenty of Derry club football in recent years and the top 6 clubs in Antrim would all compete well in the top division in Derry.

Only Derry arrogance would have you believe otherwise.

Don't think any of them would be good enough to win the Derry championship at present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 10:14:22 AM
1. McGreevey
2. Mulholland
3  Tony Convery
4 KOBO
5 James Loughrey
6 Sean Kelly
7 Tony Scullion
8 Michael McCann
9 Joe Quinn
10 Aidan Gallagher
11 Fitzpatrick
12 Paddy McBride
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Kevin Madden?
15 Kevin Brady

Struggling with half forwards... One for discussion anyway. BS will have seen more football than the rest of us I suspect...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 10:14:22 AM
1. McGreevey
2. Mulholland
3  Tony Convery
4 KOBO
5 James Loughrey
6 Sean Kelly
7 Tony Scullion
8 Michael McCann
9 Joe Quinn
10 Aidan Gallagher
11 Fitzpatrick
12 Paddy McBride
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Kevin Madden?
15 Kevin Brady

Struggling with half forwards... One for discussion anyway. BS will have seen more football than the rest of us I suspect...


You seriously trying to tell me Fitzpatrick and McWide, deserve a place on that team ahead of Connor Murray, T.McCann, CJ, Niblock..... Tommy Gunn son, youv lost the run of yourself coming out with nonsense like that.

I hope your not in management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 10:28:06 AM
Awaiting BS's antrim team of last 20years..... will be a good read
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 10:14:22 AM
1. McGreevey
2. Mulholland
3  Tony Convery
4 KOBO
5 James Loughrey
6 Sean Kelly
7 Tony Scullion
8 Michael McCann
9 Joe Quinn
10 Aidan Gallagher
11 Fitzpatrick
12 Paddy McBride
13 Paddy Cunningham
14 Kevin Madden?
15 Kevin Brady

Struggling with half forwards... One for discussion anyway. BS will have seen more football than the rest of us I suspect...


You seriously trying to tell me Fitzpatrick and McWide, deserve a place on that team ahead of Connor Murray, T.McCann, CJ, Niblock..... Tommy Gunn son, youv lost the run of yourself coming out with nonsense like that.

I hope your not in management

I'm mainly starting a discussion and fotgot a few names over the last few years lol.

Yes Niblock without doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
and what about the other lads i named? not better than what u have in.

only 2 out of your 6 forwards has won a cship

Youve no creggan men also,  whatever your problem is with the kickhams. Cranfield will be fuming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 05, 2019, 11:58:33 AM
I'd say you are not far off with that team ITG.

Fitzpatrick is definitely one of the most talented players in Antrim. But I think he only made his debut recently so perhaps it is harder to include him. I know he played club up until a few years ago but did Martin Mulholland not retire from county early 2000's? Our own Enda McLernon was as good a county back around but again retired early and didn't play much beyond 2000.

Hard out leave out Paddy C and tomas. PC probably the one of deadliest free takers ever but not sure from play. Torn between Tomas and McBride

    1. Sean McGreevey
    2. Kevin O'Boyle
    3. Tony Convery
    4. Tony Scullion
    5. Sean Kelly
    6. Justin Crozier
    7. James Loughrey
    8. Joe quinn
    9. Aidan Galllagher
   10. Conor Murray
   11. Mick McCann
   12. Paddy McBride
   13. Kevin Brady
   14. Kevin Niblock
   15. Kevin Madden

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 05, 2019, 12:05:22 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
and what about the other lads i named? not better than what u have in.

only 2 out of your 6 forwards has won a cship

Youve no creggan men also,  whatever your problem is with the kickhams. Cranfield will be fuming

;D No real complaints. Bit like PC Mark dougan unplayable for club but not so much county.

Now if it was 1980-2000 big Teddy would be a cert  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
and what about the other lads i named? not better than what u have in.

only 2 out of your 6 forwards has won a cship

Youve no creggan men also,  whatever your problem is with the kickhams. Cranfield will be fuming

You're very sensitive. Should I change my team to be exactly the same as what you pick?

What Creggan players would be in it? Lots of very good players - but maybe not just quite stand out enough.

Winning club c'ships has nothing to do with anything when picking a successful county team. It takes more than one player.

I will admit I forgot a few half forwards though but wouldn't pick the same line as you might.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 01:16:04 PM
Mark Dougan?

Tell me you are joking. Not near that level

Wheres the evidence to suggest Madden, McWide and Co. are as good/ better than CJ, Tomas, Murray and Niblock

The difference in the lads i named is they have achieved things at club and county level and punched above their weight and stood out against top teams. Jesus christ mcbride was dreadful in cship this year and last year. Madden wouldnt know what a gold medal looked like if u set it on his forehead.

Its unbelievable we have all watched and know the same players we are talking about. All good players but some are different gravy.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on December 05, 2019, 01:25:12 PM
Kevin McGourty not included?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
and what about the other lads i named? not better than what u have in.

only 2 out of your 6 forwards has won a cship

Youve no creggan men also,  whatever your problem is with the kickhams. Cranfield will be fuming

You're very sensitive. Should I change my team to be exactly the same as what you pick?

What Creggan players would be in it? Lots of very good players - but maybe not just quite stand out enough.

Winning club c'ships has nothing to do with anything when picking a successful county team. It takes more than one player.

I will admit I forgot a few half forwards though but wouldn't pick the same line as you might.

Fair enough ITG, didnt mean to take it out on you, sorry. But your team selection in the forward line was brutal.

As for Creggan player, Ricky Johnston has been county full back as ten years. And from memory has marked the likes of Murphy and McManus very well. So theres one. You'll have to go back 50 years ago to get another at that level

And as for c'ships. Theres a wee thing called a "winning mentality" that any decent team should have. If you dont have a nucleus of cship winning players in your county squad then you dont have that within your squad. How would you expect the likes of C.Small, Pat Brannigan, E.Fyffe and players from clubs that arent even competitive at their club level to compete against other counties in and around their divisions, the likes of derry who have players from coleraine, mfelt, s'neil, b'derry who have all won c'ships in recent years



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 01:28:08 PM
Bannside any word of this team til i get a look at it....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
and what about the other lads i named? not better than what u have in.

only 2 out of your 6 forwards has won a cship

Youve no creggan men also,  whatever your problem is with the kickhams. Cranfield will be fuming

You're very sensitive. Should I change my team to be exactly the same as what you pick?

What Creggan players would be in it? Lots of very good players - but maybe not just quite stand out enough.

Winning club c'ships has nothing to do with anything when picking a successful county team. It takes more than one player.

I will admit I forgot a few half forwards though but wouldn't pick the same line as you might.

Fair enough ITG, didnt mean to take it out on you, sorry. But your team selection in the forward line was brutal.

As for Creggan player, Ricky Johnston has been county full back as ten years. And from memory has marked the likes of Murphy and McManus very well. So theres one. You'll have to go back 50 years ago to get another at that level

And as for c'ships. Theres a wee thing called a "winning mentality" that any decent team should have. If you dont have a nucleus of cship winning players in your county squad then you dont have that within your squad. How would you expect the likes of C.Small, Pat Brannigan, E.Fyffe and players from clubs that arent even competitive at their club level to compete against other counties in and around their divisions, the likes of derry who have players from coleraine, mfelt, s'neil, b'derry who have all won c'ships in recent years

Yes to be fair Johnston is a good shout.

I don't agree with your point in the last paragraph. A team having a winning mentality and a player having a winning mentality are a different thing altogether. You take hurling for example and Tommy Walsh who is now getting some success at intermediate level. He wasn't successful during the crux of his key playing days - did that mean he didn't have a winning mentality? No it didn't.

You will get more players from winning c'ship teams because they must be better to be in winning championship teams yes but you will get players from many smaller "unsuccessful" clubs in many counties. Walsh is one example but if you dug into it there are many more.

Also you asked if I had something against Creggan and then you put C Small as a guy from a club who's not even competitive at club level...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 05, 2019, 02:09:07 PM
Id like to make one change to my team your honour. Big Ricky into the full back line and the TS express out (not really his position). Ricky is the best man marker in county bar none. Didn't fully appreciate he's been playing half dozen years. Done the business on the likes of Murphy, Quigley etc it's a yes from me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 05, 2019, 02:11:15 PM
It shouldnt matter what club the player is from. Jack O Shea was a goodun and played for a div 3 club in Kerry. Declan Browne in Tipp. Cathal Mc Shane Brian Dooher and Stephen O Neill in Tyrone...all lower division clubs. History book is littered with examples like this so throw that silly argument out the window RM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 05, 2019, 02:25:39 PM
Some of the very best footballers I've seen in Antrim since 2000 wouldnt make my team....which makes this a controversial exercise no matter who you pick.

For example, Kevin Mc Gourty and Sean Kelly. Pure class both of them, but didnt put in enough hard yards in Saffron to justify putting them in at the expense of a Kevin Brady or a Martin Mulholland for example who did it year in year out for 12 years plus!

Then theres CJ who was in one year out the next. Had all the class but Antrim only saw it in glimpses while we were all waiting on him taking a game by the scruff of the neck and winning it on his own aka Stevie O Neill. But that didnt happen.

The Mc Gort I rated the highest of all, and the best club player in Antrim these last 20 years was Ciaran. But he didnt do it in Saffron either, albeit he hurled in Saffron and put in mighty shift as a dual player. Only so much you can commit to I suppose.

The best midfielder I saw wore Loughshore Green and very little Saffron. As John Morrison said, Eddie Quinn was the best in Ulster for a period. So he dosent make my team either.

Enda Mc Larnon probably the best out and out corner back I saw but left the scene in 2002 so we didnt see enough of him either.

One that got away was David Mc Alernon from Aghagallon. Went working overseas but when I coached him he was up there with Mick, Niblock, Loughrey etc as a class act. So we never got to know!

That still leaves plenty to pick from but by God how would you not have loved to see all these boys on the field together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2019, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
and what about the other lads i named? not better than what u have in.

only 2 out of your 6 forwards has won a cship

Youve no creggan men also,  whatever your problem is with the kickhams. Cranfield will be fuming

You're very sensitive. Should I change my team to be exactly the same as what you pick?

What Creggan players would be in it? Lots of very good players - but maybe not just quite stand out enough.

Winning club c'ships has nothing to do with anything when picking a successful county team. It takes more than one player.

I will admit I forgot a few half forwards though but wouldn't pick the same line as you might.

Fair enough ITG, didnt mean to take it out on you, sorry. But your team selection in the forward line was brutal.

As for Creggan player, Ricky Johnston has been county full back as ten years. And from memory has marked the likes of Murphy and McManus very well. So theres one. You'll have to go back 50 years ago to get another at that level

And as for c'ships. Theres a wee thing called a "winning mentality" that any decent team should have. If you dont have a nucleus of cship winning players in your county squad then you dont have that within your squad. How would you expect the likes of C.Small, Pat Brannigan, E.Fyffe and players from clubs that arent even competitive at their club level to compete against other counties in and around their divisions, the likes of derry who have players from coleraine, mfelt, s'neil, b'derry who have all won c'ships in recent years

You're full of absolute sh1t.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 02:41:42 PM
Paddy John whats wrong with you now. Can i no have an opinion and challenge opinions without being labelled"full of shit"

what am i full of shit about and what are looking to challenge me on? your on a discussion board so comments like that are very childish and disrespectful to guys like myself and BS who are genuine antrim men seeking debate and discussion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 05, 2019, 02:25:39 PM
Some of the very best footballers I've seen in Antrim since 2000 wouldnt make my team....which makes this a controversial exercise no matter who you pick.

For example, Kevin Mc Gourty and Sean Kelly. Pure class both of them, but didnt put in enough hard yards in Saffron to justify putting them in at the expense of a Kevin Brady or a Martin Mulholland for example who did it year in year out for 12 years plus!

Then theres CJ who was in one year out the next. Had all the class but Antrim only saw it in glimpses while we were all waiting on him taking a game by the scruff of the neck and winning it on his own aka Stevie O Neill. But that didnt happen.

The Mc Gort I rated the highest of all, and the best club player in Antrim these last 20 years was Ciaran. But he didnt do it in Saffron either, albeit he hurled in Saffron and put in mighty shift as a dual player. Only so much you can commit to I suppose.

The best midfielder I saw wore Loughshore Green and very little Saffron. As John Morrison said, Eddie Quinn was the best in Ulster for a period. So he dosent make my team either.

Enda Mc Larnon probably the best out and out corner back I saw but left the scene in 2002 so we didnt see enough of him either.

One that got away was David Mc Alernon from Aghagallon. Went working overseas but when I coached him he was up there with Mick, Niblock, Loughrey etc as a class act. So we never got to know!

That still leaves plenty to pick from but by God how would you not have loved to see all these boys on the field together.

Dont think anyone could argue with that. Words of wisdom from a true gael. And i think youv hit the nail on the head, equating talent to commitment in the saffron jersey. If sam maguire was won on talent alone, Antrim would of won one. Though with all other elements/ factors to get to them levels, structures, facilties mindset.....We are lacking in almost all of them

Thanks for your analyses on that BS. Youd put alot of men to sghame in this group whos input is.... "your full of shite"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 05, 2019, 03:03:34 PM
here is my stab at it
    1. Sean McGreevey
    2. Ricky Johnston
    3. Tony Convery
    4. Martin Mulholland
    5. James Loughery
    6. Justin Crozier
    7. Tony scullion
    8. Mick McCann
    9. Aidan Galllagher
   10. Tamos McCann
   11. Conor Murray
   12. Kevin Brady
   13. Paddy Hands
   14. Kevin Niblock
   15. Kevin Madden

I would say all of these men have served the county well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 05, 2019, 03:05:15 PM
PJ I wouldn't bother biting at that WUM.

After his short series of rants it isn't hard to figure out who he is  ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 03:18:44 PM
what the hell does WUM mean? BS called me that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 03:19:58 PM
Cranfield if i hadnt of went off on a rant you wouldnt have noticed you left your clubs best/ most consistent player out. Are you even a creggan man or one of those blow ins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on December 05, 2019, 03:05:15 PM
PJ I wouldn't bother biting at that WUM.

After his short series of rants it isn't hard to figure out who he is  ::)

i particularly liked how he called me out for not picking a Creggan player and then proceeded to name a Creggan player as being one of  "players from clubs that arent even competitive at their club level to compete against other counties"  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 05, 2019, 04:53:18 PM
team of the decade, differs from current crop selection. ITG. Do u think small and the players i stated are good enough to compete against other counties??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2019, 05:18:30 PM
i think they merit a chance anyway. I don't know but neither do you.

It was on the point of you talking about creggan when you said that about them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2019, 09:15:57 PM
Best club players and best county players should be 2 different teams imo. James loughrey best county player last 20 year Sean Kelly best club player last 20 years
Kevin Brady also brilliant for club and county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2019, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2019, 09:15:57 PM
Best club players and best county players should be 2 different teams imo. James loughrey best county player last 20 year Sean Kelly best club player last 20 years
Kevin Brady also brilliant for club and county

Would it be fair to say Sean Kelly was played out of position for county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2019, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2019, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2019, 09:15:57 PM
Best club players and best county players should be 2 different teams imo. James loughrey best county player last 20 year Sean Kelly best club player last 20 years
Kevin Brady also brilliant for club and county

Would it be fair to say Sean Kelly was played out of position for county?

You're a gabshite, but you're correct.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2019, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 05, 2019, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2019, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2019, 09:15:57 PM
Best club players and best county players should be 2 different teams imo. James loughrey best county player last 20 year Sean Kelly best club player last 20 years
Kevin Brady also brilliant for club and county

Would it be fair to say Sean Kelly was played out of position for county?

You're a gabshite, but you're correct.

I've never claimed to not being a gobshite  ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2019, 08:34:25 AM
 ;D

Yep you're right. So was Mulholland and a few other half backs. Finnegan got that a bit too. We've always struggled for corner backs so stuck our best half backs in there.

Kelly at half back was probably as good a club player as in Ireland for a few years. A joy to watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 08:48:47 AM
Indeed ITG. I said yesterday that Kieran Mc Gourty was imo the best club player of these last 20 years but Sean Kelly must sit jointly at that top table. Classy classy player.

Another omission upon afterthought was Michael Magill who was one of the most naturally gifted players probably in the province, but who should have got a lot lot more out of his county career. All about opinions though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2019, 09:25:15 AM
Very much so. The power and athleticism Magill had in earlier years was something else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2019, 09:44:04 AM
Martin Mulholland always played better at CHB when I saw him play there for Glenravel. Calm and composed. Alec McQuillan, now there was a half back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 10:19:02 AM
Kieran McGourty a super footballer and we didn't see enough of him in an antrim jersey, more s the pity. Sean Kelly super club player but couldn't seem to do it at county level whether as a corner back or right half back. Kevin Brady put in a great shift for antrim over the years, in fact that '09 contained most of our top talent as past 20 years. I think the majority of that team were the best we have seen.

McGreevy at his peak was top class, could have made it anywhere.  Loughrey still doing it, tomas mccann and conor murray were great, Niblock, gallagher and cj were tremendous.  and at the top of it all, imo the best player in Antrim this generation and former allstar nominee, was Michael McCann. Not a better player this county has produced in 40 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 10:21:26 AM
Youre right PJ, Alec could have played anywhere on the pitch or any sport for that matter. When he was in late teens I believe he held the rare achievement of playing in Ravenhill, Windsor Pk and Casement Park all in the same year. Not many can say that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2019, 10:22:01 AM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 10:19:02 AM
Kieran McGourty a super footballer and we didn't see enough of him in an antrim jersey, more s the pity. Sean Kelly super club player but couldn't seem to do it at county level whether as a corner back or right half back. Kevin Brady put in a great shift for antrim over the years, in fact that '09 contained most of our top talent as past 20 years. I think the majority of that team were the best we have seen.

McGreevy at his peak was top class, could have made it anywhere.  Loughrey still doing it, tomas mccann and conor murray were great, Niblock, gallagher and cj were tremendous.  and at the top of it all, imo the best player in Antrim this generation and former allstar nominee, was Michael McCann. Not a better player this county has produced in 40 years

Big shout there....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 10:34:00 AM
Agree with most of that Spike and for sure Micks name should rightly be up there when this debate is taking place. Niblock too must be in held in similar esteem. Loughrey too gave over 10 years service to club and county and deserves to be high on this shortlist too. We had a golden era around 2006 to 2010 and didnt know it/wasted it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 10:37:36 AM
We went toe to toe with Kerry for 64 minutes in Tullamore in 09 - and they went on to win that All Ireland. Throw Sean Kelly Kieran Mc Gourty and a 100% Michael Magill into that mix....and who knows what might have happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 10:42:29 AM
true, possibly our most glorious failure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 06, 2019, 11:46:17 AM
Big spake is right. Great player and a great year in 09 but too many off days in a saffron jersey after that when in his prime. Unplayable at club level (though Aidan Gallagher may disagree) and actually more effective the last number of years as cargin have dominated. But can't recall him playing for Antrim the way he has for cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 12:09:45 PM
There aren't many Antrim players who can say they have consistently performed (probably due to various managerial issues over the years) so we should be thankful some of them did, as our limited top men were always targeted. Off the top of the head Donegal, Galway, Kerry, Cavan, Fermanagh, Wicklow.....    and Aidso im sure would have thanked Big Burkey (another useful county man) for his assistance in club games.

I forgot about Joe Quinn when he burst onto the scene, John McManus was always a super player and had high hopes for Kevin Doyle.   

This exercise just highlights what talent we actually had
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 12:09:45 PM
There aren't many Antrim players who can say they have consistently performed (probably due to various managerial issues over the years) so we should be thankful some of them did, as our limited top men were always targeted. Off the top of the head Donegal, Galway, Kerry, Cavan, Fermanagh, Wicklow.....    and Aidso im sure would have thanked Big Burkey (another useful county man) for his assistance in club games.

I forgot about Joe Quinn when he burst onto the scene, John McManus was always a super player and had high hopes for Kevin Doyle.   

This exercise just highlights what talent we actually had


The talent we had was superb, the 1997 team that won the AI B title was very good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on December 06, 2019, 12:31:43 PM
Mick - no doubt a great player for Antrim and Club, he had a few good days in an Antrim Jersey... but I have to say, I've never rated him as highly as some people. To be considered as the best of the last 20-40 years, then for example, during that 10+ year period when St Galls and Cargin were both at the top of their powers, I think he should have pushed Cargin over the line more often. I can't remember him standing out whenever those two teams met – and I'm not say he had poor performances, he was always solid. There wasn't much between those two teams despite what the roll of honour says.

James Loughrey is the best I've seen for Antrim. Kobo not too far behind him – different type of player of course, as a corner back it's always difficult to stand out and take the glory... but I can't remember seeing many (if any) county forwards get much change from him -  and he's been up against a few good ones. Sean Kelly was a special talent as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 01:04:46 PM
Sure its all about opinions and certain matches people saw and didn't see, rose tinted memories and sure every player has had their off days.  For me the majority of big county performances as past 20 years for Antrim coincided with Michael McCann excelling so the likes the Donegal in Ballybofey, Cavan in Clones, Galway in Casement, Wicklow in Croker and Kerry in Tullamore hold great memories.  Easy to do so when the other years had so much drudgery. There isnt many average players in Antrim get an All Star nomination. But as i said, its a game of opinions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2019, 01:17:45 PM
He cleaned one of the McGee's out in that Donegal game but then the other one went on him and he wasn't as effective. It was too late for Donegal then. I think it was Eamon he cleaned out. Neil has since proved to have been as good a full back as is about. (with the help of a few dark arts lol) so no shame there in being nullified a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on December 06, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
True Spike, you make fair points and he was worthy of his nomination - he was excellent that year for us. The run we went on will live long in the memory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 01:51:35 PM
Did Mick ever line out for Ulster in the Railway Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 06, 2019, 01:52:58 PM
The last time we played Donegal in championship Odhran McNiallis cleaned Mick out for about 6 points.

Maybe it's a tad unfair to pick out one bad performance but that day he looked disinterested. Very talented player but in his prime he had tendency to not turn up in big games for club and county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 02:26:36 PM
Michael could be a 9/10 or a 5/10 on any given day. That's my problem with him - maybe we expected the Rolls Royce performance every day and that's probably not realistic.

For example his performance against Creggan in the 2018 county final had Damian Cassidy calling him a Rolls Royce. But a week later he didnt touch leather against Gweedore, he was man marked out of it from the first whistle. I think that's the inconsistency people are referring to. Whereas a Sean Kelly or KMG seemed to pull out a 8/10 every time it mattered. That's my point and I'm sure Cargin people who love the guy know exactly what I'm talking about. Despite this, for some moments of brilliance as Spike says in many of the games we recall, Mick does enough to make it into my top five.

The first Cargin player on my team of the decade or last 20 years would be the ultra consistent and dependable Justin Crozier without a doubt. With Kobo not far away when he was injury free which seems to be years ago and of course the TS Express himself.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 02:27:24 PM
CRF - Think you're being a bit harsh there, firstly McNiallis got 4 points, wasn't directly up against Michael in midfield, and Antrim's strange tactic was to not contest any kickouts and to let the opposition carry it unopposed to the Antrim 40 yard line.  No surprise but Donegal got 25 points and Antrim as a team gave up relatively early. 

Can't agree with you at all about Antrim's big Days - reference earlier posts - the only big days of success we have had and Michael played well. Go figure.  Same goes for Niblock, Gallagher and Loughrey - when they played well, Antrim played well.   At club level i think he has 5 or so championship medals - must have done well in some those matches

BS - thought Mick had a good 2nd half against Gweedore, was poor in the 1st. Sean K to me was a 7 to 9 out of 10 club player, a 5 out of 10 at county level. McGourty was a maverick at club level - superb when it mattered but sure for Antrim you never knew if he would actually show up for the match so utterly undependable. Crozier and Kobo great servants to Cargin and dependable every week for club or county.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion of players, some rate others, some dont, thats the great thing about sport.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 06, 2019, 02:50:08 PM
Wow..I can even begin to contest any of that Spike!

Fair play to you but in all seriousness how the heck do you know so much tactical detail about a particular game Mick...sorry I mean Spike  ;D

Great sensible mature debate on this board which isn't always the case!  8)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 02:58:11 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on December 06, 2019, 02:50:08 PM
Wow..I can even begin to contest any of that Spike!

Fair play to you but in all seriousness how the heck do you know so much tactical detail about a particular game Mick...sorry I mean Spike  ;D

Great sensible mature debate on this board which isn't always the case!  8)

Lol, the uncontested kickouts strategy sticks in my head as I couldn't believe we were persisting with it. I can still see the picture of Frank McGlynn running up and down the left wing with noone tackling him - don't think ill see tactics like that ever again - certainly not at county level, perhaps u12s  ;)

The Kobo 'magician act' is a close 2nd!!  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
The KMG I refer to is Kieran, who was TOTALLY dependable for St Galls, but of his four choices (St Galls F, St Galls H, Antrim H and Antrim F) unfortunately Antrim Football came fourth at all times. Therefore we didnt really see any of his ability at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 02:27:24 PM
CRF - Think you're being a bit harsh there, firstly McNiallis got 4 points, wasn't directly up against Michael in midfield, and Antrim's strange tactic was to not contest any kickouts and to let the opposition carry it unopposed to the Antrim 40 yard line.  No surprise but Donegal got 25 points and Antrim as a team gave up relatively early. 

Can't agree with you at all about Antrim's big Days - reference earlier posts - the only big days of success we have had and Michael played well. Go figure.  Same goes for Niblock, Gallagher and Loughrey - when they played well, Antrim played well.   At club level i think he has 5 or so championship medals - must have done well in some those matches

BS - thought Mick had a good 2nd half against Gweedore, was poor in the 1st. Sean K to me was a 7 to 9 out of 10 club player, a 5 out of 10 at county level. McGourty was a maverick at club level - superb when it mattered but sure for Antrim you never knew if he would actually show up for the match so utterly undependable. Crozier and Kobo great servants to Cargin and dependable every week for club or county.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion of players, some rate others, some dont, thats the great thing about sport.

So with all that talent and able to produce it when it mattered why did they go missing in Ulster club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
MR2, without sounding churlish, if it was a cakewalk winning Ulster then St Galls, for all their legendary status in Antrim, would have a better record than 3 out of 19. As you would know yourself, there are no easy games at that stage of competition.

I think Cargin show a naivety in Ulster that we don't see in Antrim. They tend to ship easy goals which, at that level of competition is very difficult to come back from. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
MR2, without sounding churlish, if it was a cakewalk winning Ulster then St Galls, for all their legendary status in Antrim, would have a better record than 3 out of 19. As you would know yourself, there are no easy games at that stage of competition.

Nothing churlish about it. Winning one game every so often would suffice.

We've lost the odd final to and a few semis in those years, even our 82 team managed back to back finals

They say you need a run at winning your own county to get a feel for Ulster, it's a simple question, as a supporter of Antrim clubs in Ulster at both codes I'd question that, same way at Newry I questioned Dunloy v S'nel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 06, 2019, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
MR2, without sounding churlish, if it was a cakewalk winning Ulster then St Galls, for all their legendary status in Antrim, would have a better record than 3 out of 19. As you would know yourself, there are no easy games at that stage of competition.

Nothing churlish about it. Winning one game every so often would suffice.

We've lost the odd final to and a few semis in those years, even our 82 team managed back to back finals

They say you need a run at winning your own county to get a feel for Ulster, it's a simple question, as a supporter of Antrim clubs in Ulster at both codes I'd question that, same way at Newry I questioned Dunloy v S'nel

how'd they manage that ? Must have been some team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
I think Cargin show a naivety in Ulster that we don't see in Antrim. They tend to ship easy goals which, at that level of competition is very difficult to come back from.   They were unlucky against Crossmaglen and  Gweedore but were poor against derrygonnelly and killyclogher.   None of them bad sides.

I personally think this Cargin team have regressed since 2015, but just not as much as st galls. The Antrim championship is more even but of lesser quality as the two top teams aren't what they once were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on December 06, 2019, 03:53:17 PM
To be fair, I think Cargin only started to get a crack at ulster when the team was slightly (and then more gradually) in decline i.e. the last 5 years. That was down to St Gall's brilliance, so fair play to them, but it would have been interesting to see how their team from 2005 to 2012-ish got on in Ulster – I'm pretty confident that they would have progressed much further than of recent years.

Spike, may have picked you up wrong, but I think you are harsh on Sean Kelly labelling him as a  5/10 county level guy. It insinuates the old cliché that the player was a good club footballer but can't cut it at county. IMO he always seemed to get pigeon holed out of position, especially for our championship games. Think that's a fair mitigating factor?  If Mick was played half back  and Niblock was in midfield then we could make say the same about those guys. Kelly performed in enough high level club matches, ulster and beyond to quash the thought that he was not in the same grade as those guys?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: CountyColours on December 06, 2019, 03:53:17 PM
Spike, may have picked you up wrong, but I think you are harsh on Sean Kelly labelling him as a  5/10 county level guy. It insinuates the old cliché that the player was a good club footballer but can't cut it at county. IMO he always seemed to get pigeon holed out of position, especially for our championship games. Think that's a fair mitigating factor?  If Mick was played half back  and Niblock was in midfield then we could make say the same about those guys. Kelly performed in enough high level club matches, ulster and beyond to quash the thought that he was not in the same grade as those guys?

CC - i totally get where you are coming from and yes he should be up there based on what i saw of him for St Galls but i saw him play a few times for the county and he never really did it.  He had countless and i mean countless brilliant club games but im struggling to recall seeing him play well for antrim and he didn't go up to the county for a few years for some reason.  He was played out of position at corner back against wicklow in croke park and had a moment to forget for the goal, but was poor against sligo in the div 3 final at right half back where he had a nightmare trying to deal with Alan Costello.   

In no way am i suggesting Sean Kelly wasn't a super footballer - absolutely not, a wonderful player - i just didn't see him perform at county level and that could be either fitness/form issues or out of position - a range of issues that collectively stifled him.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2019, 04:38:44 PM
Fair comment. SK class act but just didnt really do it for the county. Exact same can be said for Kevin Mc G. What a pity though. Add Kevin to that list of quality players from our county, who were in their prime in 09, who didnt feature in Tullamore. No one can tell me there wasnt a collective 4 or 5 point advantage had all those featured. You only had to see some of these boys at Kilmacud every year to know they could mix it with the very best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 04:41:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: CountyColours on December 06, 2019, 03:53:17 PM
Spike, may have picked you up wrong, but I think you are harsh on Sean Kelly labelling him as a  5/10 county level guy. It insinuates the old cliché that the player was a good club footballer but can't cut it at county. IMO he always seemed to get pigeon holed out of position, especially for our championship games. Think that's a fair mitigating factor?  If Mick was played half back  and Niblock was in midfield then we could make say the same about those guys. Kelly performed in enough high level club matches, ulster and beyond to quash the thought that he was not in the same grade as those guys?

CC - i totally get where you are coming from and yes he should be up there based on what i saw of him for St Galls but i saw him play a few times for the county and he never really did it.  He had countless and i mean countless brilliant club games but im struggling to recall seeing him play well for antrim and he didn't go up to the county for a few years for some reason.  He was played out of position at corner back against wicklow in croke park and had a moment to forget for the goal, but was poor against sligo in the div 3 final at right half back where he had a nightmare trying to deal with Alan Costello.   

In no way am i suggesting Sean Kelly wasn't a super footballer - absolutely not, a wonderful player - i just didn't see him perform at county level and that could be either fitness/form issues or out of position - a range of issues that collectively stifled him.

So in your a opinion Sean was a bang average county player ? But the lads you've mentioned were top county players but couldn't perform for their club in Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on December 06, 2019, 04:49:33 PM
Fair points Spike, I can't argue with you there, and agree, we didn't see the best of Kelly in saffron for whatever the reason. Which is unfortunate, because he ticked alot of boxes re: what you want in a county footballer.

100% Bannside, those lads would have made a difference in '09, Especially with Kevin McG around the middle/ half forward line, it would have given us a serious option. Not sure if we would have beat Tyrone though, think they would have had another gear in them, but Kerry were there for the taking. We caught them off guard that day and they were fortunate to squeeze by.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 06:40:10 PM
MR2 - ill refer to earlier post - if you could actually read the words rather than imagining what you think you read , it would be a whole lot easier to understand.  Sean was a super player but i never saw that in an antrim jersey. Just my view.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 06:42:13 PM
Cc - agree, we were so close to kerry, tyrone probably too cute but would have went to the wire.

BS - yes, if only......those last couple of percents.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 06:40:10 PM
MR2 - ill refer to earlier post - if you could actually read the words rather than imagining what you think you read , it would be a whole lot easier to understand.  Sean was a super player but i never saw that in an antrim jersey. Just my view.

Ok so imagine this, you said he was 5-10 as a county player so he was in your opinion he was average! Take your green tinted glasses off please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 07:55:06 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 06, 2019, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
MR2, without sounding churlish, if it was a cakewalk winning Ulster then St Galls, for all their legendary status in Antrim, would have a better record than 3 out of 19. As you would know yourself, there are no easy games at that stage of competition.

Nothing churlish about it. Winning one game every so often would suffice.

We've lost the odd final to and a few semis in those years, even our 82 team managed back to back finals

They say you need a run at winning your own county to get a feel for Ulster, it's a simple question, as a supporter of Antrim clubs in Ulster at both codes I'd question that, same way at Newry I questioned Dunloy v S'nel

how'd they manage that ? Must have been some team

They won in 82 and lost final to Burren in 83. They were some team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2019, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 06:40:10 PM
MR2 - ill refer to earlier post - if you could actually read the words rather than imagining what you think you read , it would be a whole lot easier to understand.  Sean was a super player but i never saw that in an antrim jersey. Just my view.

Ok so imagine this, you said he was 5-10 as a county player so he was in your opinion he was average! Take your green tinted glasses off please

He had average performances for the county. Yes, i stand by that.    Im not saying he was an average footballer, for reasons only known to him he didnt transfer his st galls form to the county scene.   If you disagree then fair enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 08:13:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2019, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2019, 06:40:10 PM
MR2 - ill refer to earlier post - if you could actually read the words rather than imagining what you think you read , it would be a whole lot easier to understand.  Sean was a super player but i never saw that in an antrim jersey. Just my view.

Ok so imagine this, you said he was 5-10 as a county player so he was in your opinion he was average! Take your green tinted glasses off please

He had average performances for the county. Yes, i stand by that.    Im not saying he was an average footballer, for reasons only known to him he didnt transfer his st galls form to the county scene.   If you disagree then fair enough

So I did read you post well enough?

It's always about opinions I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 07, 2019, 10:46:48 AM
I think most of us on here in general agree about the players who make up the Antrim team (or panel at least) of the last twenty years. I think to be considered an Antrim "Great" you need to have given at least 8 or 10 unconditional years to the cause. Big Joe Quinn, Kevin Brady, Martin Mulholland, Kevin Niblock, guys like these are the true legends of Antrim Football.

Kevin Niblock played in Ulster finals and all Ireland club finals but was always proud to represent Antrim, even if that was in Division Four, and especially if he thought the set up could be better. He never complained, just got on with it. That's why he's Number 1 in my book.

I'm particularly pleased that almost everyone considered Tony Convery to be in their starting team. He would 100% be in mine too, but I thought I would have had to fight his case because he always kept under the radar, never sought the headlines. What a player he was, easily the best ever Casements player in that period too, and they got to 3 county finals in the noughties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 07, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
RM...good wee read for ya in todays Irish News. Write up about Cathal Mc Shane from lower division Leckpatrick wins an All Star. Shows what can be done if you've got the ability and the right attitude....no matter where a player is from!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 07, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
I passed casement an hour ago and there was a truck parked outside it . It must be lost  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2019, 12:32:48 PM
Fitzpatrick's defection to ground football is a big blow to Antrim and St. John's. St. John maybe on a downhill path since 2017 final ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 09, 2019, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 07, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
I passed casement an hour ago and there was a truck parked outside it . It must be lost  >:(
Must've run out of red diesel. Can anyone shed any light on the Casement debacle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 09, 2019, 12:44:23 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 09, 2019, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 07, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
I passed casement an hour ago and there was a truck parked outside it . It must be lost  >:(
Must've run out of red diesel. Can anyone shed any light on the Casement debacle

The grass is now four foot long. An inch up on last year. Toilets still the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
RM...good wee read for ya in todays Irish News. Write up about Cathal Mc Shane from lower division Leckpatrick wins an All Star. Shows what can be done if you've got the ability and the right attitude....no matter where a player is from!

BS, read it. Again i dont COMPLETELY disagree with what you have said. i do however want to scrutinise your logic and clarify my view.  Im basically saying, theres no coincidence that weaker counties who tend to do well (compete consistently) have a nucleus of players within their squads who have been successful at club level. Antrims squad should have similarities to armagh, laois, down, fermanagh etc..  on the make up of their squads with a heavy influx of players from winning clubs. Supplemented by the top players from other clubs.

Examples; Squad should have predominantly Cargin, LD, & perhaps few Galls players populating 50% of match day squads in an ideal world. Supplemented by the best of the rest. If everyone made themselves available theres no questioning that would be the case. Armagh have that with the cross/ Maghery contingency, Fermanagh with the Derrygonnelly and Roslea lads (2x finalists), Laois with Portlaois lads etc.. Them teams i would say are at a level antrim should be at and i would say at the moment, they would beat antrim 9 times out of 10

You however are trying to compare antrim to tyrone and other counties which have better structures, better coaching across the Schools and a better environment all round for Football in their counties. Their intermediate/ junior leagues play at a higher level than ours. Their colleges do better than ours, their development squads are consistently better than ours, their facilities are better than ours. Their clubs do better than ours in provincial games....Need i go on??

Thats why they can pull players with the calibre of mcshane, and the likes of dooher, o'neill and players from div 3. Antrims best lower league players on the panel at the moment are C.Duffin, E.Fyffe, P.McCormick or P.gallagher. I dare somebody to name me a player from the lower divisions that would start that antrim team week in week out or would stand out at senior club cship.

Looking at a match programme from a few years back antrim had 4/5 Ballymena men on the panel, 3 glenavy, 3 pg1, 2 st.endas, 2 aldegrove, 3 creggan, 4 st.johns under Geroid and co.
Any coincidence they under performed that year. Same could happen this year!

Alot of discussion recently regarding that 09 team. Best team in recent history?? What was the make up of that squad, Galls players who won all round them, Cargin players who won it 2 years prior.... supplemented by the best of the rest. UUJ won sigerson the year before with antrim players amongst the squad.

Wining breeds winning

You want to know why Antrim are the laughing stalk of ulster, look at the structures we have, coaching in schools and look what at the amount of players who have won absolutely nothing whether at club, county, schools or university level which makes up our county senior panel.

Too many optimists in this board and in our county and not enough realists who can see a glass half empty but know how to get it filled! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 09, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
i think you only have to look at schools like Cross and Passion where they have it nailed on big time. Thier hurling and camogie is competing with the best and their structures and coaching is fantastic. St Louis in Ballymena are coming up behind them now as their structures in all 3 codes is taking good shape.

our own primary school in Dunloy is fantastic and i cant emphasis that enough. our kids are playing non stop, taken to tournaments all the time and getting fantastic coaching from within the school and outside of it with the likes of woody playing a big role. The kids love him and what he brings to each session.

that along with the fact they use our academy for free and whenever they need it plays a massively important role within our own community.

There is good work being done at the moment in the county with the help of Gaelfast and the inner structures of the schools themselves but it will take time to grow. Its only a start of work that has to be done but there is a positive start there. were still a long way off but once the seed is sown it will grow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2019, 02:28:45 PM
How many Cross players are about the Armagh squad RM? There are also not very many Kilcoo players on the Down squad either.

Derrygonnelly maybe have a few in Fermanagh yes but I don't think you are right on Armagh and Down at least.

How do you know any of those guys would not make an impact at senior c'ship?? You don't!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 02:51:44 PM
TG, when Burren won the down cship they had 6 on it. A number of kilcoo men havnt committed for a number of reasons lately. Location being one of them, and the years they got kilcoo men out they done well.  the two Johnstons, Lavery, Devlin, Brannigans and O'Hanlon. As for Cross they have 6 in the armagh panel if Clarke declares himself available.

Read the link below and youll find Tally is seeking more Kilcoo involvement.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tally-keen-to-tempt-kilcoo-players-back-into-thick-of-it-for-down-38764418.html


And as for "How do you know any of those guys would not make an impact at senior c'ship?? You don't!!.... Well all i can say is iv watched Intermediate and Junior C'Ship games and alot of  them didnt stand out for me at that level. Infact i would say the likes of Seamus McGarry, Caolan Molloy, Dermot McErlaine stood out more in the Intermediate Cship  than the county guys did.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2019, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 02:51:44 PM
TG, when Burren won the down cship they had 6 on it. A number of kilcoo men havnt committed for a number of reasons lately. Location being one of them, and the years they got kilcoo men out they done well.  the two Johnstons, Lavery, Devlin, Brannigans and O'Hanlon. As for Cross they have 6 in the armagh panel if Clarke declares himself available.

Read the link below and youll find Tally is seeking more Kilcoo involvement.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tally-keen-to-tempt-kilcoo-players-back-into-thick-of-it-for-down-38764418.html


And as for "How do you know any of those guys would not make an impact at senior c'ship?? You don't!!.... Well all i can say is iv watched Intermediate and Junior C'Ship games and alot of  them didnt stand out for me at that level. Infact i would say the likes of Seamus McGarry, Caolan Molloy, Dermot McErlaine stood out more in the Intermediate Cship  than the county guys did.

What's the location of Kilcoo got to do with their county panel participation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2019, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 02:51:44 PM
TG, when Burren won the down cship they had 6 on it. A number of kilcoo men havnt committed for a number of reasons lately. Location being one of them, and the years they got kilcoo men out they done well.  the two Johnstons, Lavery, Devlin, Brannigans and O'Hanlon. As for Cross they have 6 in the armagh panel if Clarke declares himself available.

Read the link below and youll find Tally is seeking more Kilcoo involvement.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tally-keen-to-tempt-kilcoo-players-back-into-thick-of-it-for-down-38764418.html


And as for "How do you know any of those guys would not make an impact at senior c'ship?? You don't!!.... Well all i can say is iv watched Intermediate and Junior C'Ship games and alot of  them didnt stand out for me at that level. Infact i would say the likes of Seamus McGarry, Caolan Molloy, Dermot McErlaine stood out more in the Intermediate Cship  than the county guys did.

There is a lot of stuff in your last few points which I think is nonsense to be honest. I think you just don't rate the guys they're picked. That's fair enough but just say it. I doubt you have seen enough of them to say mind you. Molloy and a few other Dunloy ones could do a job but you'd rarely get a dunloy footballer for the county with hurling commitments. I rarely remember one.

Also they're division 2 players not division 3 and not one of the ones you mentioned played junior.

I'm not from moneyglass but anything I read about their c'ship games and Duffin was doing a lot of damage. Fyffe from Glenravel likewise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2019, 03:28:25 PM
If we had a St Galls or Cargin team like we did a decade ago I would totally agree that players from those clubs should form the basis of the county squad. That's because a Cargin/ St Galls select back then would beat a county select, they both had so many classy players.

Thats no longer the case. Cargin are holding on to their top team status atm but there are half a dozen teams not too far away and all those clubs have two or three players capable of being on a county panel.

You must not go to many county matches RM, because Peter Healy was probably the best player we had in 2018 and last year Paddy Mc Cormack was outstanding. So too was Patrick Gallagher who wasnt far away from that accolade either.  All "lower" division clubs!

This year in particular Lenny has taken a different approach. He had every championship game covered senior intermediate and junior. He went out if his way (as is his duty) to attract the best players in....no matter what club they played for.  He widened the net and went for a larger panel. He chased up a few of the outstanding players of this years championship....Dermot Mc Aleese,  Marc Jordan etc. He added a bit of experience and class in Tomas and Paddy Cunningham who are back. He chased up Conor Small who was missing last year and introduced a few young players Eamon Fyfe and Adam Loughran.

There are still players missing and everyone has their own opinion on who those players are. But you could find that the reason they are not there is not Lennys fault. Not all approaches are taken up!

What we do have now is a collection that involves the end result of a long period of attracting the best players to come in board. Mark Sweeney looks like being a big miss, and obviously Matt Fitz too. Paddy Mc Cormack is on work placement in Galway so he's out too for the year. But there is a good panel there to work with atm and they are working away. And no doubt there are half a dozen players on a reserve list if they are needed.

Every county misses out on players that we would love to have. Billy Joe Burns (St Pauls) is playing soccer Sean O Neill (Davitts)  is too. Keelan Molloy (Dunloy) arguably the best under 21 footballer in the county is hurling. Domnall Nugent is hurling. Some of these are lower division clubs too, but have the talent to play inter county football if circumstances permitted.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 09, 2019, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2019, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 02:51:44 PM
TG, when Burren won the down cship they had 6 on it. A number of kilcoo men havnt committed for a number of reasons lately. Location being one of them, and the years they got kilcoo men out they done well.  the two Johnstons, Lavery, Devlin, Brannigans and O'Hanlon. As for Cross they have 6 in the armagh panel if Clarke declares himself available.

Read the link below and youll find Tally is seeking more Kilcoo involvement.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tally-keen-to-tempt-kilcoo-players-back-into-thick-of-it-for-down-38764418.html


And as for "How do you know any of those guys would not make an impact at senior c'ship?? You don't!!.... Well all i can say is iv watched Intermediate and Junior C'Ship games and alot of  them didnt stand out for me at that level. Infact i would say the likes of Seamus McGarry, Caolan Molloy, Dermot McErlaine stood out more in the Intermediate Cship  than the county guys did.

There is a lot of stuff in your last few points which I think is nonsense to be honest. I think you just don't rate the guys they're picked. That's fair enough but just say it. I doubt you have seen enough of them to say mind you. Molloy and a few other Dunloy ones could do a job but you'd rarely get a dunloy footballer for the county with hurling commitments. I rarely remember one.

Also they're division 2 players not division 3 and not one of the ones you mentioned played junior.

I'm not from moneyglass but anything I read about their c'ship games and Duffin was doing a lot of damage. Fyffe from Glenravel likewise.

i seen Moneyglass 3 times this year and they have some fantastic players in their squad. good enough to play at a higher level if they were given the chance.

we have plenty of lads in the same boat but 90% of our football team are also hurling players as well. balancing that dual player status at club level is hard enough without also county commitments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2019, 03:59:15 PM
Definitely DR and those players are known to football management. I know you've got your finger on the pulse there and you are aware of a couple of approaches that were not taken up for the reason you speak of. It's time Dunloy threw up another Speedy Mc Allister who put football first lol. Frank Fitz senior told me once that when he managed Antrim in the eighties he wrote Speedys name at 11 and built a team around him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 04:20:31 PM
ITG, we are getting side tracked here. My comments were based on Bannsides post which he directed my way. You are coming at me with assumptions so please stick to what im saying and take it literally instead of interpreting my words to suit your agenda. I do rate an awful lot of the current antrim players, WITHIN the antrim club scene. Though because the other clubs outside of LD, Galls and Cargin havnt won a thing i fear for the over all mindset within the panel v other counties. Which is why i keep talking about the winning mentality, alot of our boys dont know how to win when it comes to the crunch

Moneyglass players you talk about, id like you to name the ones who stood out when it mattered. in the final against aldegrove the only men i seen that stood up was Dermot McEerlaine and their CHB. Both of which arent county players. Fyfe wasnt good v Moneyglass in the semi's but i wont dwell on him as he is very young

BS when you say them guys had a good year. What is a good year in your interpretation? Because from Lenny has came in, Antrim havent had a good year... so all this nonsense about his approach, trying things with men throughout all clubs, in all divisions in antrim is all mumbo jumbo. Now what looks like to be his last year, what has he went and done.....back to default..... Called in the guys who have cship pedigree. T.McCann and Cunningham, who are well in their 30's. So he obviously feels the need to call on men who have won something.  Im sure if he had of got a few more of the lads he had called upon he would of soon forgot about some of the current guys he has been working with. Also worth mentioning M.Fitzpatrick won a sigerson with St.Marys 2017, following year 2018,  id of said he was best club player in antrim. Really kicked him on

Someone put up a good argument against what im saying or atleast offer an alternative point of view instead of trying to twist my words. Im just saying what i think would be best for Antrim football at the moment, and having a panel of kids, from clubs who havent won anything or been to a final isnt going to cut it against the good counties in and around Div 3 if thats what we are aiming to get to and build from there

And obviously im not alone as Tally has called upon more Kilcoo involvement, McGeaney has 6 Cross men, Derry have 5 S'neil men, D'gonnely have 5 on fermanagh panel...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2019, 04:40:01 PM
What are you saying?

We need players with a winning mentality? We can't get those in antrim outside of winning club teams because we're antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 04:56:59 PM
Im saying, until other clubs step up and start winning things, which will make the club championship more competitive, and antrim step up their development across the board then we will be drifting in and out if div 3/4. And we wont have alot to pick from. So at the minute i think the current squad, if everyone made themselve available should have a nucleus of the top 3 teams best players supplemented by the rest to be competitive.

Trying to bring so many players through at the one time, who are naive and learning their trade and who had no on the field leaders,  was always going to be a disaster for Lenny. but i can see why he kept it going. It was a good cushion to fall back on when fingers were pointing at him with the results and performances. Bannside and the likes are always the optimistic kind who are always building for the future whether it be with his own club or county. But 10 /20 years down the line and youve damn all to show for it, you need a change of course.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2019, 04:59:23 PM
But theres hundreds of examples across the country that say you're wrong to exclude players from lower divisions, or from clubs that have never won anything. Ask anyone a few years older than yourself who was the best midfielder they ever saw and theres a good chance they will say Tony Mc Atamney. Played MF for Ulster too for half a dozen years when the Railway cup was massive. He was from a division three club. Should he not have been asked to play for Antrim because he was from a small parish or played with people who just werent as technically gifted or as athletically perfect as he was?


I do understand the point you are trying to make RM but it's too idyllic. In the GAA you play (or should) play for the parish you were born in and anything else is elitist and against the moral fabric that binds the association. A good player can come from any parish or club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
Just for the record...eternally optimistic Bannside came from a club (All Saints) who started in Div 5 without a pitch and finished up inside 10 years going to Div 1 with excellent playing facilities. That took a bit more than optimism.

Eternally optimistic Bannside moved and started family in Portglenone. Div 3 team with moderate facilities. Now well established in Div 1 on a continued upward curve I confidently predict, with superb facilities that will be even better in a few years. I'm not saying I did anything special to create this, it takes a lot of people to create something like this.

During that time I've seen county boards that were poor average and just plain bad. What we have now is a massive step up on that, with Saffron Business Forum, Gaelfast, and most clubs starting to get their act together in terms of proper juvenile focus and promotion of the game. 

I am 100% optimistic that Antrim are turning a big corner and if it takes 10 years that's ok. When clubs and schools clubs lock in, and produce more and more quality players the rest will look after itself. Why the need for such negativity? Get involved with the youth and go out and produce a couple of special players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2019, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 09, 2019, 04:56:59 PM
Im saying, until other clubs step up and start winning things, which will make the club championship more competitive, and antrim step up their development across the board then we will be drifting in and out if div 3/4. And we wont have alot to pick from. So at the minute i think the current squad, if everyone made themselve available should have a nucleus of the top 3 teams best players supplemented by the rest to be competitive.

Trying to bring so many players through at the one time, who are naive and learning their trade and who had no on the field leaders,  was always going to be a disaster for Lenny. but i can see why he kept it going. It was a good cushion to fall back on when fingers were pointing at him with the results and performances. Bannside and the likes are always the optimistic kind who are always building for the future whether it be with his own club or county. But 10 /20 years down the line and youve damn all to show for it, you need a change of course.

You do somewhere in there have a point - we want experienced leaders to bring youth through. We probably don't have the ones we'd want available though. While that is the case youth has to be picked.

There's nothing to say that can't work out though despite what you say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 09, 2019, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
Just for the record...eternally optimistic Bannside came from a club (All Saints) who started in Div 5 without a pitch and finished up inside 10 years going to Div 1 with excellent playing facilities. That took a bit more than optimism.

Eternally optimistic Bannside moved and started family in Portglenone. Div 3 team with moderate facilities. Now well established in Div 1 on a continued upward curve I confidently predict, with superb facilities that will be even better in a few years. I'm not saying I did anything special to create this, it takes a lot of people to create something like this.

During that time I've seen county boards that were poor average and just plain bad. What we have now is a massive step up on that, with Saffron Business Forum, Gaelfast, and most clubs starting to get their act together in terms of proper juvenile focus and promotion of the game. 

I am 100% optimistic that Antrim are turning a big corner and if it takes 10 years that's ok. When clubs and schools clubs lock in, and produce more and more quality players the rest will look after itself. Why the need for such negativity? Get involved with the youth and go out and produce a couple of special players.
Yes hopefully turning a corner, but I've said on here before, I've been following SW underage and I've noticed really strong U10/U12 teams in certain clubs not develop one iota as teenagers, which can only mean lack of coaching or lack of interest from the players/families. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2019, 06:25:28 PM
I personally think the penny has really only started to drop with certain clubs about the proper development of their juveniles. This should be a clubs main asset, every bit as important as it seniors.

We hope to get to a stage where all clubs are doing more (some much more) schools are doing a lot better and county development squads are upping their game across the board. That's 3 target areas that are all "work in progress" but if you have talent at all it should be noted and developed to a much higher level than say for example ten years ago when these three vital areas were underperforming.

Of course theres a lot more to do...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 10, 2019, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2019, 03:59:15 PM
Definitely DR and those players are known to football management. I know you've got your finger on the pulse there and you are aware of a couple of approaches that were not taken up for the reason you speak of. It's time Dunloy threw up another Speedy Mc Allister who put football first lol. Frank Fitz senior told me once that when he managed Antrim in the eighties he wrote Speedys name at 11 and built a team around him!

some player in his day and an even bigger character lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 10, 2019, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2019, 04:59:23 PM
But theres hundreds of examples across the country that say you're wrong to exclude players from lower divisions, or from clubs that have never won anything. Ask anyone a few years older than yourself who was the best midfielder they ever saw and theres a good chance they will say Tony Mc Atamney. Played MF for Ulster too for half a dozen years when the Railway cup was massive. He was from a division three club. Should he not have been asked to play for Antrim because he was from a small parish or played with people who just werent as technically gifted or as athletically perfect as he was?


I do understand the point you are trying to make RM but it's too idyllic. In the GAA you play (or should) play for the parish you were born in and anything else is elitist and against the moral fabric that binds the association. A good player can come from any parish or club.

BS you have a serious habit in going off topic and writing in a tangent. Where did u see a comment from myself which said to exclude players from lower divisions?  You havent. And what makes you think i dont know who Tony McAtamney was?

For some reason you and others in this group try and write a spree of stuff and arguing against things that havent been mentioned.... Iv never said anyone who is good enough from a lower club or unsuccessful clubs SHOULDNT get selected for Antrim so you must of dreamt that. From day dot all i have said was, as a template to progress, you find that other counties have a core of players from clubs which have had recent success within the county. Examples i gave were down, armagh, fermanagh, laois and derry.

I even gave examples of the number of players from clubs within each squad, and shared a link in which Tally called upon more kilcoo involvement even though he already had 4 on the panel from the year before

So you cant tell me im wrong, because what you have been rooting for and what Lenny has tried, backing youth and bringing in players who have never even played at a good club level, HAS FAILED!

So again, Lenny obviously recognises that, so has decided to call upon T.McCann and P.Cunningham who have what in common? And thats not including the players he has contacted that has refused to play.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
Let me summarise...

We need our best players playing?

Paddy Tally wants his best players playing - most of those happen to be from Kilcoo. This is not a shocker. It doesn't discount the likes of Harrison and boys like taht from lower clubs.

The clubs that win generally, generally, have better players with exceptions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 10, 2019, 12:05:39 PM
ITG, how do you think Lenny has done to date and whats your opinion on his approach.

And on your summary was i wrong to suggest the best players in antrim are predominantly within the top 3/4 teams in the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2019, 12:42:38 PM
You are basically stating the obvious here. Better teams GENERALLY have better players which is why they win. Other teams can have good players too but they will have less of them.

To be honest I think he has done as well as he has been allowed. If he could have had the best guys available he would have had the best guys available. It is more than just him that is meaning that some of these guys won't commit. Age demographics also a factor here too.

In any county you would expect 6 or 7 from your champions. In terms of the best from Cargin you would have Crozier, OBoyle, Laverty,two McCanns minimum and one or two others however this hasn't happened. Lenny can't make them play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 10, 2019, 01:07:47 PM
It wasnt that obvious when yourself BS and others were trying to justify Lenny having a squad of predominantly young and average players.

Lenny could of had P.Cunningham, Tomas, Crozier, some of the galls and LD men when he started but he chose not to.

The fact that you are happy enough with Lennys and the teams performances as last 3 years just shows you the mentality around the county, happy to be there. So again back to what iv said, no WINNING mentality. And wont have that until we see all this good work BS stated clubs are doing throughout the county come to fruition, (if theres many clubs really putting the work in) and hopefully in the 10 years that he talks about there will be 6/7 teams challenging for county titles. Then we could see something different.

But i wont hold my breathe

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 10, 2019, 01:20:07 PM
best two teams in the county are cargin and ld. 6/7 players from the remaining good enough to make up rest of 15 plain and simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2019, 01:31:22 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 10, 2019, 01:07:47 PM
It wasnt that obvious when yourself BS and others were trying to justify Lenny having a squad of predominantly young and average players.

Lenny could of had P.Cunningham, Tomas, Crozier, some of the galls and LD men when he started but he chose not to.

The fact that you are happy enough with Lennys and the teams performances as last 3 years just shows you the mentality around the county, happy to be there. So again back to what iv said, no WINNING mentality. And wont have that until we see all this good work BS stated clubs are doing throughout the county come to fruition, (if theres many clubs really putting the work in) and hopefully in the 10 years that he talks about there will be 6/7 teams challenging for county titles. Then we could see something different.

But i wont hold my breathe

I didn't know that Lenny chose not to have those guys - are you sure about that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on December 10, 2019, 01:40:11 PM
RM – it feels like you ranting and raving whilst running around in circles here. The club championship is arguable as competitive as it has been in a long time, therefore your point about clubs not stepping up is off point (there has been a kick of the ball in it between 4 or 5 teams over the last few years).

The unfortunate thing is that the reason it is more competitive of late is because St Galls and Cargin's (to a lesser degree) top players have got a bit older. As a lot of these players have got older, started families, progressed in their jobs etc. it has meant that the commitments of county football has moved down in their priorities – you can't hold that against them or management for that matter. Antrim aren’t the only county who are dealing with this issue. Look at the amount of county footballers from so called weaker counties and even some of the stronger counties stepping aside now.

Also, just because a player hasn't won anything at their club, uni, school level doesn't necessarily mean they haven’t got that "winning mentality". There are many players past and current who have represented Antrim, who haven’t won medals who in my opinion most certainly have a winning mentality. Saying that, based on our recent "winners"  LD are well represented, ideally it would be great to have a few more of the Cargin lads, and I don't think that the St Galls players are a huge loss (bearing in mind their best players are 34+ at the minute). Although I would love Kevin Niblock to give us one more year!

Antrim have a young side, but I think we are a stronger side this year after getting a few of the guys back (young and old). In particular Paddy Hands could be vital for us, and of course Tomas is a class act.  Healy and Jordan are a major plus as well. I fancy our chances of getting promoted this year. Give me optimism any day of the week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 10, 2019, 02:45:57 PM
I fail to see why Cunningham was invited back, more surprised he accepted. He has little pace, touched the ball twice I think in two finals against Cargin. Pace pace pace. His free taking is outstanding, always was
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 10, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
well he scored 4 points from play in a challenge match on Saturday so maybe there is life in the man yet
Quote from: Dunsilly King on December 10, 2019, 02:45:57 PM
I fail to see why Cunningham was invited back, more surprised he accepted. He has little pace, touched the ball twice I think in two finals against Cargin. Pace pace pace. His free taking is outstanding, always was
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on December 10, 2019, 03:38:47 PM
He was chipping in with points from play through-out the championship this year. But more importantly, he's very accurate from free-kicks, which in a low scoring game, on a wet and windy January day - could be vital for us. I think we lost three league games by a point last year. Would be interesting to know how many scoreable frees we missed across those games. McBride and Murray are decent from frees, but Paddy is a level above.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 10, 2019, 04:08:49 PM
Belfastsaff, did anyone else stand out in the challenge game? Who did they play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 10, 2019, 04:47:39 PM
"I fail to see why Cunningham was invited back"

"His free taking is outstanding"

These two sentiments are a mere dozen words apart.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 10, 2019, 08:08:19 PM
If Antrim had a club side that won Ulster this year (like Kilkoo) I'd say most of them would be worthy of a place on the county panel. But we dont'.  A decade ago Cargin & St Galls were beating the others by cricket scores. And Antrim team was winning Ulster titles.

It's great to see PC back, and Tomas too. Paddy scored seven points in a recent challenge, only two from frees, and has a clever football brain that can make up for a bit of loss of pace. Neither owe Antrim anything at this stage and are there to give it one last lash. It's great to see them back and a pity a few others didn't take up Lennys invitation.

Regarding Lenny - he will be disappointed the first two years didnt get us out of the basement division. He will throwing the kitchen sink to do that this year, and it would be great if the football people in the county got behind him from the start. Glenavy on Sunday 26th January is a huge game against Paul Galvins Wexford, but its winnable. If you have any ambition for Antrim football you should be there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on December 11, 2019, 05:53:07 AM
Christ Almighty lads its like a History lesson of Antrim football these last few pages. Even when we had all these lads years ago etc etc and great competitive club teams winning AI titles we still won feck all ! Its Div4 we cant go anywhere else so why not try a youthful approach and build something while we can, a lot of these kids are fearless and have raw talent so who knows maybe just maybe we will have something to get us excited like the old days when we where competitive but again won feck all..... Look at Kerry and the young lads now in the panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 11, 2019, 07:36:50 AM
I've looked at them. If we have a few Clifford's or O Sheas or Spillane floating around I've missed them. Who do you have in mind? (Apart from big Pat Chivers who is already well on the radar). Seriously, I'm not trying to be clever. Those Kerry guys are like racehorses with a complete range of skills to match. And if they don't belong to Cargin or Lamh Dhearg then there are people here who wouldn't have them on the panel!

I hope to God Lenny doesn't read this or his head will be turned. The county has been better trawled than ever this year for panellists, young players experienced players returning players cajoled players even players on a reserve list. There's still players missing that we all (and Lenny) would like to have but that's not realistic for a variety of reasons. The panel atm is strong enough to get us out of division four, so let's get behind them from the start this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 11, 2019, 07:59:07 AM
bannside you seem to have in-depth knowledge of the county football team, what is your role ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 11, 2019, 09:22:54 AM
Im starting to think BS is in-fact..... Lenny Harbison
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 11, 2019, 10:19:51 AM
Belfast Saff I dont have any current role in the county football set up. I did a spell with development squads through to under 21 and was privileged to have shared that time with players like Niblock, Aidso, Paddy C, Mick, Andy Mc Lean and many others. I was devastated by the lack of county board support at the time for a project I thought could go all the way with county under 21s in 2006, and fell out with the whole lot of them over it. It still hurts tbh. I felt there was an Ulster and All Ireland in them and everybody from the top down scorned at that. We were deprived of two key players for a showdown with Tyrone and lost by 2 points in Omagh. After that we will never know but Tyrone lost in extra time to Mayo, and many of those Mayo players have played in five senior All Ireland finals.

I've never wanted or sought any "role" since then. Around that time I was one of three persons who sought to head up a football board to run football, but I was narrowly defeated by an excellent gael, Michael Herron, who sadly passed away only last week.

I have spoken to Lenny twice since he got the job, enough to know he has canvassed dozens of players who found a reason to decline and also enough to get an insight into the quality of the work going on (I also know some of the panellists quite well so I get their honest feedback too).

Apart from that I'm just like us all here, hoping Antrim football can start fulfilling its potential and get rid of the negativity that has engulfed us for so long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2019, 09:28:21 AM
 https://t.co/wiI2Mq26Pc?amp=1 (https://t.co/wiI2Mq26Pc?amp=1)

(Irish news Antrim team of last twenty years)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 12, 2019, 10:35:44 AM
For me the main topic of discussion with this selection is how the author selected McBride ahead of Scullion at whb I, staggering!!! Just no comparison, and imo it questions the credibility of the authors knowledge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2019, 10:44:12 AM
Did you see Scullion's reply to him on twitter?? Quite damning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2019, 11:03:39 AM
All about opinions, and considering the views on here as a gauge, no one will be happy with his choice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 12, 2019, 11:48:42 AM
Overall I don't think the team is too far away, but saying McBride is the best half back Antrim have had in 20 years is laughable! haha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
McBride, Madden and Kelly wouldn't have made my team, none have done anything of note in a county jersey.  Valid pros and cons arguments for the rest.  How at least one of the McGourtys, Tomas McCann, Andy McLean, Tony Convery or Tony Scullion didn't make it for services given to the county team is beyond me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on December 12, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 12, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
McBride, Madden and Kelly wouldn't have made my team, none have done anything of note in a county jersey.  Valid pros and cons arguments for the rest.  How at least one of the McGourtys, Tomas McCann, Andy McLean, Tony Convery or Tony Scullion didn't make it for services given to the county team is beyond me.

I don't think length of service comes into it, its the best players regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 12, 2019, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 12, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 12, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
McBride, Madden and Kelly wouldn't have made my team, none have done anything of note in a county jersey.  Valid pros and cons arguments for the rest.  How at least one of the McGourtys, Tomas McCann, Andy McLean, Tony Convery or Tony Scullion didn't make it for services given to the county team is beyond me.

I don't think length of service comes into it, its the best players regardless.

Stupid comment Spike but considering your comments on Kelly and Madden previously, then understandable.

Kelly probably played below his high standards at county but still more than good enough to be in the team. IMO he was the best footballer in the county during this period. Madden was top scorer in entire national league a couple of years in early 2000s and only scoring forward we had for years. Him and Brady the only players we had that got picked for Railway Cup during that time.

Harshest exclusion was probably Tony Scullion. I'd have had him in for Colin Brady. The rest is splitting hairs. Big Tony Convery, Ricky Johnston, McGourtys, Conor Murray, Tomas MCann all class acts. Maybe the irish news could do a second 15 next week lol

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
CFD - Kelly 'probably' played below his high standards? I don't believe there is a doubt in that.   
Madden a good free taker playing in a poor team but Paddy Cunningham better free taker and better player. We cant have two free takers on the team lol! 
Still stick by my 'opinion'. Saw enough of all these fellows to form a valid opinion over the period. 

NAG1 - you're right, length of service shouldn't come into it (otherwise Kevin Doyle would be on the team) but its a nice bonus when trying to decide between some tight calls. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 12, 2019, 03:04:46 PM
Martin Mulholland and Anto Finnegan had to be considered also.

The more I think on the Paddy McBride, I think excluding him would be extremely harsh. It's not like you need to think back 15 or 20 years. I'd hazard a guess and say he's been our top scorer in championship the last 5 or 6 years. I was at the Kildare game this year and the man carried Antrim on his own. I think he scored something ridiculous like 0-6 from play.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2019, 03:12:37 PM
Agree on Martin Mulholland, sound defender. The other two would be in the squad....not the team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 12, 2019, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 12, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
CFD - Kelly 'probably' played below his high standards? I don't believe there is a doubt in that.   
Madden a good free taker playing in a poor team but Paddy Cunningham better free taker and better player. We cant have two free takers on the team lol! 
Still stick by my 'opinion'. Saw enough of all these fellows to form a valid opinion over the period. 

NAG1 - you're right, length of service shouldn't come into it (otherwise Kevin Doyle would be on the team) but its a nice bonus when trying to decide between some tight calls.

Paddy Cunningham made the team ya ballon lol Couldn't argue that Cunningham probably was a better free-taker but madden was fit to take men on & PC wasn't. Can you seriously not make case for McBride?

Forget the second 15 I wonder could they do a county 15 and then a cargin one?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2019, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on December 12, 2019, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 12, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
CFD - Kelly 'probably' played below his high standards? I don't believe there is a doubt in that.   
Madden a good free taker playing in a poor team but Paddy Cunningham better free taker and better player. We cant have two free takers on the team lol! 
Still stick by my 'opinion'. Saw enough of all these fellows to form a valid opinion over the period. 

NAG1 - you're right, length of service shouldn't come into it (otherwise Kevin Doyle would be on the team) but its a nice bonus when trying to decide between some tight calls.

Paddy Cunningham made the team ya ballon lol

Couldn't argue that Cunningham probably was a better free-taker but madden was fit to take men on & PC wasn't. Can you seriously not make case for McBride?

Forget the second 15 I wonder could they do a county 15 and then a cargin one?  ;D

Did you not read the line after that?? Read whats written, not what you want to read - ''We cant have two free takers on the team lol!''  Madden was a good player but Cunningham was better. Pretty straightforward. CJ McGourty was better than the both of them.

Of course McBrides a good player, but there are better half backs than him and also better half forwards. Thats why he'd make my squad and not my team.  I made a case for st galls players too like McLean but that appears to have been ignored.   Its not my fault if Creggan haven't produced a county player of note in 20 years  ;)

Real shame that Fitzpatrick isn't turning out for Antrim next year - big Loss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 12, 2019, 03:47:07 PM
I give you the two johnstons spike  8)

You won't care to admit (a little too close to home perhaps) but Marty J is another player who has dominated Mick McCann anytime they have met.

But you'll probably tell me that somebody else was supposed to be following Marty back  ;D

Antrim and Creggan could sure be doing with a fully fit Marty!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2019, 04:00:33 PM
'Marty J is another player who has dominated Mick McCann anytime they have met'

Jesus wept. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 12, 2019, 05:01:24 PM
Conor Murray not a better call than Paddy McBride? Tony Scullion should have been one of the first names on that team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2019, 06:56:55 PM
You can't pick on sentiment ffs! Picking a player because he played for years is wrong. Getting hard tackles in and making dead alley runs from half back line shouldn't mean you get picked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2019, 10:13:16 PM
Look none of these guys are bad footballers and the fact that we are discussing them at all backs that up. Cahir dosent know Antrim Football remotely like we do so let's not get carried away.

Tony Scullion played at RHB under 5 different managers so they cant all be wrong. And 15 years at Cargin in the same position. I think 90 % of readers here would have him in there.

Colm Brady a great servant and a super corner back, but not a recognised full back. I saw Tony Convery go toe to toe three times and break even minimum or come out on top of the peerless Enda Muldoon who Cahir picked on his Derry select. It was Tony or Martin Mulholland for me.

James Loughrey the greatest attacking no 7 we have seen possibly ever gets a sop vote at number 2. Just emphasises how far O Kane is away so no point in getting worked up. We know ourselves who's there or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 13, 2019, 09:26:38 AM
MR2 i hope you are a better ref than you are an analyst.

Again glad to see BS putting a bit or perspective within this group. Always very levelled headed with his comments.

But in all seriousness what has Cranfield been smoking to say Marty Johnston has always dominated Michael? Your heart in them games must have made you lose your vision. Two good players but at different levels. Though for Spike to come out and say Creggan havnt produced a player as last 20 years is totally disingenuous, i couldnt agree with that. He clearly doesnt remember guys like Mulholland, McKeown or Lee Johnston
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 13, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
I'm only going by what I saw in a few games  :-X

Really not sure what Mulholland you are referring to?

Never mind Marty & Mick RM, surely you cannot deny that anytime Ricky marks CJ he never handles it?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2019, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 13, 2019, 09:26:38 AM
MR2 i hope you are a better ref than you are an analyst.

Again glad to see BS putting a bit or perspective within this group. Always very levelled headed with his comments.

But in all seriousness what has Cranfield been smoking to say Marty Johnston has always dominated Michael? Your heart in them games must have made you lose your vision. Two good players but at different levels. Though for Spike to come out and say Creggan havnt produced a player as last 20 years is totally disingenuous, i couldnt agree with that. He clearly doesnt remember guys like Mulholland, McKeown or Lee Johnston

In the past 20 years for Antrim has there been better halfbacks that Crozier, Kelly and Loughrey?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 13, 2019, 11:24:29 AM
MR2 are u talking about them three in an antrim jersey or a club jersey
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2019, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 13, 2019, 11:24:29 AM
MR2 are u talking about them three in an antrim jersey or a club jersey

Both, again it's my opinion, I've watched enough games with these players to have an opinion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 13, 2019, 11:37:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2019, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 13, 2019, 09:26:38 AM
MR2 i hope you are a better ref than you are an analyst.

Again glad to see BS putting a bit or perspective within this group. Always very levelled headed with his comments.

But in all seriousness what has Cranfield been smoking to say Marty Johnston has always dominated Michael? Your heart in them games must have made you lose your vision. Two good players but at different levels. Though for Spike to come out and say Creggan havnt produced a player as last 20 years is totally disingenuous, i couldnt agree with that. He clearly doesnt remember guys like Mulholland, McKeown or Lee Johnston

In the past 20 years for Antrim has there been better halfbacks that Crozier, Kelly and Loughrey?

No I don't believe there has been
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2019, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on December 13, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
I'm only going by what I saw in a few games  :-X

Really not sure what Mulholland you are referring to?

Never mind Marty & Mick RM, surely you cannot deny that anytime Ricky marks CJ he never handles it?  ;)

He's not from Creggan - Glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Loughshore Green on December 16, 2019, 12:04:30 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 12, 2019, 04:00:33 PM
'Marty J is another player who has dominated Mick McCann anytime they have met'

Jesus wept.

Marty J a decent player but no were that calibre of Mick McCann....not even on the same spectrum. Some garbage posted here atm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 16, 2019, 07:47:19 PM
More importantly, the recent launch of the county's new strategic plan for the next 3 years was launched last week. Good bit of work and plenty of ambition, proper timescales and action plans.

A good road map for Antrim Gaa and one that should allow the county to attract appropriate sponsorship etc. Let's make it work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2019, 01:21:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 16, 2019, 07:47:19 PM
More importantly, the recent launch of the county's new strategic plan for the next 3 years was launched last week. Good bit of work and plenty of ambition, proper timescales and action plans.

A good road map for Antrim Gaa and one that should allow the county to attract appropriate sponsorship etc. Let's make it work.
Had a read of it there on county web and all seems a bit standard but welcome. What are the pieces that excite you BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 10:13:12 AM
Proof will be in the pudding. Have set themselves alot of big targets and if they achieve the half of them by the dates set i applaud them as it will be some achievement.

McCavanna doing a really good job with a great team behind him. Though something not within the document i wish they had put in, was improving the level of the refereeing within our county. Alot of really good and young refs which are welcomed but there are a few who even in terms of fitness cannot keep up with the play and a few others who clearly havent played the game and lack the common sense of how to implement the rules in certain scenarios and a few wee hitlers who cant seem to tell the time. I think if we invested more in our referees and had a level of consistency across the board then the standard of the football would go up, and coaches would be able to train their players accordingly. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2019, 10:55:57 AM
Any strategic plan is only as good as the people involved willing to work hard to achieve it. Its success will be totally down to the work rate and goodwill of many other components, clubs schools divisional boards etc, so it's up to all of us to do what we can to facilitate it.

I've been part and parcel of these things before on various county sub committees over the years and what I now know is that it's not how fancy the plan is, but how tightly it is actually measured against performance and timescales.

Our county board has a can do attitude atm which should be welcomed so theres a good chance we will see a lot of the plan being implemented, but again it should be highlighted it's not the boards plan....its our plan....put in place by representatives of our clubs. Question now is what can you do to assist it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2019, 11:04:36 AM
The bit that excites me most is the plan to install a director of football. That is a key position. Whilst I'm sure the role isnt remotely defined atm it means that at long last some joined up thinking and action plans can evolve, something badly missing for a long time.

Player development journey is crucial to this....sourcing and identifying elite potential at an early age, harnessing that and bringing said talent through to optimum level. At the minute far too many are slipping the net from 14 - 20, much more pro rata than most other counties imo.

And I'd be interested in this Academy that's mentioned. That's potentially very interesting.

Look we have all the facilities in the world on our doorstep. We just need to put the structure in place to get the benefit from them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2019, 11:18:16 AM
Referees are the lifeblood of the association RM as we all know. I'm in favour of remunerating them adequately.....i really struggle to see the sustainability of most form of volunteer, but especially refereeing,  as we edge closer to an "I do nothing for free - my time is too precious" society! At the same time they would be subject to to performance scrutiny including fitness etc. In short...the whole spectrum of referring could be taken to a higher level. I mean if the association can pay fat cat officials 85p a mile to go watch a match and then treat themselves to a big steak dinner, well it's only fair refs are treated better in my view.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 11:24:03 AM
Director of football is a tricky one. I think if we got someone top notch that had the ability to set out the structures and have the wit to implement them without interfering with management teams and coaches then it will be a really positive thinggoin forward. Though i cant see anyone who would be qualified enough within antrim to take on that role, and anyone that is appointed wont have any experience of it. Would it be a possibility to go with someone outside our county? I liked O'Rourkes 5 year plan the time he was in for the job, had a plan through out the development squads and within the schools but sadly Antrim chose not to make that investment. Theres a guy who had a vision for antrim football that we are only recognising now was a necessity.

Big appointment i hope they get that one right or the rest associated with it may fall apart
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 11:24:03 AM
Director of football is a tricky one. I think if we got someone top notch that had the ability to set out the structures and have the wit to implement them without interfering with management teams and coaches then it will be a really positive thinggoin forward. Though i cant see anyone who would be qualified enough within antrim to take on that role, and anyone that is appointed wont have any experience of it. Would it be a possibility to go with someone outside our county? I liked O'Rourkes 5 year plan the time he was in for the job, had a plan through out the development squads and within the schools but sadly Antrim chose not to make that investment. Theres a guy who had a vision for antrim football that we are only recognising now was a necessity.

Big appointment i hope they get that one right or the rest associated with it may fall apart

Whole heartily agree. The reason we have refs that arent up to scratch is due to lack of interest for the jobs. Who would want to be a ref. For what you put into it you never get the same back unless you are a totally selfless character. Pity we hadnt more like P.McKeever (RIP) who in my opinion was one of the best we had, played the game and was in the job for the right reasons. Seemed like players and managers could approach him without being talked down to or a fuss kicked up. Tend to feel that a few of the hurling refs who crossover and ref football have the right mannerism and attitude and seem to get less hassle. Is there anything to suggest why that would be the case? I know a few on here who i would be chatting to tend to agree

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2019, 11:35:20 AM
I'd imagine these are voluntary positions (director of football and director of hurling) and not of the full time paid variety. Where does the amateur ethos end the the professional one begin. And once you go down that path....some getting paid, others arnt...it is a fast track to a slippery slope!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 10:13:12 AM
Proof will be in the pudding. Have set themselves alot of big targets and if they achieve the half of them by the dates set i applaud them as it will be some achievement.

McCavanna doing a really good job with a great team behind him. Though something not within the document i wish they had put in, was improving the level of the refereeing within our county. Alot of really good and young refs which are welcomed but there are a few who even in terms of fitness cannot keep up with the play and a few others who clearly havent played the game and lack the common sense of how to implement the rules in certain scenarios and a few wee hitlers who cant seem to tell the time. I think if we invested more in our referees and had a level of consistency across the board then the standard of the football would go up, and coaches would be able to train their players accordingly.

Ok I'll bite, the players are well informed of the time during games, they'll ask every second and each time they time waste, the clock is stopped accordingly and they are informed.

Mona is a very good name for you, as you do nothing but complain... Invest in referees? This is where you have lost any degree of sense or knowledge of what its like for the referee team to get referee's to actually invest their time in covering our games. It's pricks like you that stand on the sideines thinking you know the rules and giving abuse to the referees, which actually see's a reduced amount of referees turning up in the new year. The game is not professional, players and officials invest a similar amount of time, we complain about investment into the teams and development squads, we complain about paying for this and that, so now you want to invest in making referees professional?

Christ do you actually think that referee's are doing this for a wage? The referee's that do championship have to pass written exams and a beep fitness test, something I doubt most people on here would pass. We don't have that many ex players willing to put their shoulder to the wheel and become a referee, why do you think that is?

Will be some craic next season when the new rules kick in, sin bin, and forward mark and all levels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 18, 2019, 01:02:18 PM
some good points
one element lacking was paid/paid not nature of the Director posts Usual GAA secrecy piece
why not say SAf Business Forum generating 100k and will pay for these 2 Director posts with full time employees then we know it is sustainable - look at the messes in Galway/Mayo wuth finances - secrecy doesn't inspire confidence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 01:08:07 PM
MR2 never fails to bite. And for your info i have never abused a referee in my life so dont form a picture of me in your head to suit your argument.

As for that spree of stuff you let put of you regarding what i said about investment in referees, it was BS who mentioned financial investment. Not Me! I was talking more about investment in training referees to a higher standard within the county, the amount of referees i have seen at games who failed to blow the mark or who have implemented or failed to implement the black card appropriately  was embarrassing. So backs my point up that we need more training for our referees so they can get things right.

Also why is it that when someone says something on this board that you may not agree with or find offensive that you respond with name calling.  Its that kind of nonsense and immaturity that brings down the standard of refereeing. Again proving my point for me.

you sound like the wee Hitler with the broken clock im talking about.

Tick Tock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 01:17:33 PM
For the record, let me make it clear. I have nothing but total respect for any man who gives up their time to referee our games. Its a lonely post where u commute far and near in the elements and get very little thanks for doing so. Without the officiating then there would be no games. And the genuine guys doing it for the greater good of the game or have that love for the game. Hats off to them guys!

On the other hand, referees some of which everyone will know who i am talking about, volunteer for different reasons. Some to feel significant, some to get out and about and some are pushed by their clubs. The ones who i have the gripe with, are the ones with small man syndrome, with the massive chip on their shoulder. who dont allow players and manages to question a decision or have a word. The ones who turn free flowing games into an awful spectacle and the ones who cannot admit they can make a mistake like everyone on the pitch. Who let their heart rule their head on the big occasions. Our county has had a brave few of them.

I am not talking about Toland, Laverty, McAuley or Doherty. 4 guys who i feel are very, knowledgeable, rational, fair, and who always would bring umpires when they can,  in league games which results in better referring performances as they have eyes around the pitch and can consult for the big decisions. All round makes for a better, fairer game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2019, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 01:08:07 PM
MR2 never fails to bite. And for your info i have never abused a referee in my life so dont form a picture of me in your head to suit your argument.

As for that spree of stuff you let put of you regarding what i said about investment in referees, it was BS who mentioned financial investment. Not Me! I was talking more about investment in training referees to a higher standard within the county, the amount of referees i have seen at games who failed to blow the mark or who have implemented or failed to implement the black card appropriately  was embarrassing. So backs my point up that we need more training for our referees so they can get things right.

Also why is it that when someone says something on this board that you may not agree with or find offensive that you respond with name calling.  Its that kind of nonsense and immaturity that brings down the standard of refereeing. Again proving my point for me.

you sound like the wee Hitler with the broken clock im talking about.

Tick Tock

Look it's very simple to work out who you are, club and attitude, that's fine your opinion on things is green tinted and I've no problem with that, I at least am not hiding behind a screen, my attitude in refereeing is very straight forward, the rules for black cards is simple, abuse to the referee, or deliberate pull down. I don't see the issue there. Yellow cards and red cards easy to work out also.

The problem is interpretation of the rules and that various from ref to ref, in all counties. As a supporter I'll have issues with a lot of calls referees do during games I attend, as a referee I can understand that he may not see it as you've seen and give him the benefit of the doubt.

All referee's that know of don't care who wins the game that they ref, they don't want handshakes or pats on the back after the game, they want a hassle free game and get in their car and head home without the vile remarks that come from the sideline. Be passionate about your club but don't become a lunatic shouting abuse.

How many names have you used now on the board Mona? As for using lines men and umpires I was given stick for taking advice from a lines man at a game, can't win.

As for free flowing football that's down to the players and management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2019, 02:24:10 PM
Did someone here recently mention that last years LD management team had stood down? Because that's not what I'm hearing! Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 02:27:47 PM
First time on this board, so please aim your frustration at myself for my comments and not who you presume I am. Also MR2 what the hell are you on about green tinted glasses? iv two tints to my glasses and neither are green. So again lets not make assumptions.

And as your you consulting a linesman, only a lunatic would hurl abuse at you for doing so.  So lets not get into specific incidents as i think we can make allowances for the odd bit of riff raff as its human nature heat of the moment stuff.

Free flowing football you are right is initially down to the teams but again, compared to down, tyrone or derry football, Antrim club games are known to be very stop start and referees to be inconsistent with their decisions. Not all, referees of course, but alot. So it is disingenuous to deflect the referees impact on the game within the county. They have a major responsibility and set the tone of games and how they are to be played. So considering all that, is it wrong for me to suggest our referees get investment with their training, officiating or BS's suggestion that they are financially facilitated? I think by doing so you would get a larger pool of referees which the county could grade better and the standard and integrity of our game would go up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 18, 2019, 02:24:10 PM
Did someone here recently mention that last years LD management team had stood down? Because that's not what I'm hearing! Can anyone confirm?

BS That was myself querying that. But as far as im aware the guy they had from Clonoe is back in Tyrone managing. Lynch is implementing his predecessor.

Any other news on management changes around the clubs? Kellys stepped down from galls, is he retired altogether or playing? McKenna away from Gort? Ahoghill job vacant? Geroid and st.johns? Cassidys staying? Murray still at aghagallon? Dillon with Casements?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2019, 03:32:58 PM
Barry Dillon still with us, Cassidy remains at Cargin, Adam's who had without question two extremely poor seasons at St John's has somehow managed to end up in Burren!

Think Fitzy is hanging on for another crack at St Endas after a poor term last year no doubt caused by fatigue. Martin Lynch has the hard work done at LD just needs to keep that momentum going to be in next years mix, so he's hanging on too.  Wee Gerard Mc Nulty taking over the reigns at Creggan from Kevin Madden.

Anyone with any more info to add to that in Div 1 or other divisions for that matter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 18, 2019, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 01:17:33 PM
For the record, let me make it clear. I have nothing but total respect for any man who gives up their time to referee our games. Its a lonely post where u commute far and near in the elements and get very little thanks for doing so. Without the officiating then there would be no games. And the genuine guys doing it for the greater good of the game or have that love for the game. Hats off to them guys!

On the other hand, referees some of which everyone will know who i am talking about, volunteer for different reasons. Some to feel significant, some to get out and about and some are pushed by their clubs. The ones who i have the gripe with, are the ones with small man syndrome, with the massive chip on their shoulder. who dont allow players and manages to question a decision or have a word. The ones who turn free flowing games into an awful spectacle and the ones who cannot admit they can make a mistake like everyone on the pitch. Who let their heart rule their head on the big occasions. Our county has had a brave few of them.

I am not talking about Toland, Laverty, McAuley or Doherty. 4 guys who i feel are very, knowledgeable, rational, fair, and who always would bring umpires when they can,  in league games which results in better referring performances as they have eyes around the pitch and can consult for the big decisions. All round makes for a better, fairer game.


Come on Mona you named the ref's you do not have a problem with, who are those that you do? Apart from MR2 that is. BTW MR2 is probably the fittest ref in the country, watching him he keeps up with the game and if you have a watch that works, I think he usually plays the correct amount of time.

Guys like you are a cancer in the Association, constant criticism with faux solutions 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 18, 2019, 05:15:27 PM
Thanks Calm Down. You are a real charmer.

Well honestly personally i dont have a problem with any of the guys, though if you want my opinion i think mcdonald is a consistent ref, im still not 100% which galls ref mr2 actually is so il hold fire until i find out more, i think your man mcdermott from whitehill is a terrible ref who makes the game all about himself,  your man from aldegrove  John Moran just leaves me scratching me head 90% of the time and could start a field fight at charity match. Vincent Boyle is past his best, Young lad eastwood is fair enough but with his lack of communication with his decisions tends to get targeted by management. I think McCotter, McKnight and the rest just need to be improved across the board. Im sure all good lads but from a football perspective the overall standard needs upped.

Sorry for having an opinion Calm Down, be interested to hear your view on the matter or would u prefer everyone to keep their mouths shut and be happy with how things are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 18, 2019, 05:29:59 PM
As far as opinions are concerned I am all for them, however constructive criticism as opposed to just blanket nastiness across the board is what I seek.

M Moran and O'Boyle I agree are men who have had better days, however keep games at a lower level going when others wont. McDermatt from Whitehill, I have seen him a few times and I think if the teams want to play football he will let the game go, however if teams want to engage in nonsense I will agree that he may try to take too firm grip off a game.

Tomas is a decent young ref, however will attitudes like you chase him away and McCotter et al, are they not at the wrong stage to be improved and be the difference to the future?

DID  you ever consider it might be the teams that are contributors to the spectacle and not the ref?? Also where is your solution to helping, I for one am past the age for reffing but could you pick up the whistle and be part of the solution not the problem?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 18, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 18, 2019, 03:32:58 PM
Barry Dillon still with us, Cassidy remains at Cargin, Adam's who had without question two extremely poor seasons at St John's has somehow managed to end up in Burren!

Think Fitzy is hanging on for another crack at St Endas after a poor term last year no doubt caused by fatigue. Martin Lynch has the hard work done at LD just needs to keep that momentum going to be in next years mix, so he's hanging on too.  Wee Gerard Mc Nulty taking over the reigns at Creggan from Kevin Madden.

Anyone with any more info to add to that in Div 1 or other divisions for that matter?

Niall Ward  taking over at Gorts .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2019, 08:15:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 18, 2019, 05:29:59 PM
As far as opinions are concerned I am all for them, however constructive criticism as opposed to just blanket nastiness across the board is what I seek.

M Moran and O'Boyle I agree are men who have had better days, however keep games at a lower level going when others wont. McDermatt from Whitehill, I have seen him a few times and I think if the teams want to play football he will let the game go, however if teams want to engage in nonsense I will agree that he may try to take too firm grip off a game.

Tomas is a decent young ref, however will attitudes like you chase him away and McCotter et al, are they not at the wrong stage to be improved and be the difference to the future?

DID  you ever consider it might be the teams that are contributors to the spectacle and not the ref?? Also where is your solution to helping, I for one am past the age for reffing but could you pick up the whistle and be part of the solution not the problem?

This is man (Moan) who says he doesn't give abuse to referees but gets torn into them on a public forum, ignore list for me calm down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 19, 2019, 08:48:53 AM
Men this is a forum... what else are you meant to do on it other than criticise or state an opinion. Believe me MR2 if i wanted to get tore into people on this forum i would be kicked off it if i started.

But here il say no more about it, dont want you boys taking anymore hissy fits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2019, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 19, 2019, 08:48:53 AM
Men this is a forum... what else are you meant to do on it other than criticise or state an opinion. Believe me MR2 if i wanted to get tore into people on this forum i would be kicked off it if i started.

But here il say no more about it, dont want you boys taking anymore hissy fits.
I agree with you RM - the point of a forum Is to give opinions and have debates - calling people faceless keyboard warriors is pointless. - Discussion boards are Discussion boards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2019, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2019, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on December 19, 2019, 08:48:53 AM
Men this is a forum... what else are you meant to do on it other than criticise or state an opinion. Believe me MR2 if i wanted to get tore into people on this forum i would be kicked off it if i started.

But here il say no more about it, dont want you boys taking anymore hissy fits.
I agree with you RM - the point of a forum Is to give opinions and have debates - calling people faceless keyboard warriors is pointless. - Discussion boards are Discussion boards

Debate ok, but ridicule referees players and officials while hiding behind the keyboard is unfair. But if you think its ok...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on December 20, 2019, 09:11:52 AM
MR2 you dont want people saying anything to referees on the pitch, over the fence or criticising them on a forum. Thats the problem with some refs, they cant take criticism and dont want to be scrutinised. Or is it that we are all just snowflakes on here?

Disagree with my points all you want, but do you not find it hypocritical you calling me a p***k, keyboard warrior etc... when youv sat behind a screen and typed that in. Especially when all iv done is gave my view on referees performances and my views on a range of other things relvant to the topics discussed.
I doubt if you werent behind a keyboard you would call too many a p***k so lets not lower the tone on here men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 20, 2019, 10:06:38 AM
A bit of criticism is ok here and there but best if it can be of the constructive variety and not of the petty kind. Antrim Gaa is finally going the right way but we have still a long way to go, and the occasional check or balance on that journey does no harm.

Every aspect of what we do can be improved, even the stuff we think we are doing well, and as long as this thread doesn't descend into a slanging match it can serve as a barometer for our thoughts and ambitions.

I've been as guilty as anyone over the years but I think it's too cheap to name names, especially when that person doesn't get the right of reply. For example "such a player is useless nowhere near good enough for county level". That's just too nasty to an amateur player out there doing his best and then gets hung out here to dry. And quite often it's not even necessary because if they aren't good enough they will get found out soon enough.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 20, 2019, 07:43:08 PM
Bannside you seem like a reasonable chap, would like to hear your views v those expressed by Roger recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
Any word if Cunningham and mcCann are shaping up in their county comebacks ? Think county have been training and playing games for a couple of months now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 20, 2019, 08:40:24 PM
Happy Christmas ye filthy animals...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 20, 2019, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 20, 2019, 08:40:24 PM
Happy Christmas ye filthy animals...

A memorable quote indeed!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2019, 11:22:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
Any word if Cunningham and mcCann are shaping up in their county comebacks ? Think county have been training and playing games for a couple of months now

Have seen Antrim's last few games in UUJ  ;)

Cunningham has equipped himself very well, McCann hasn't been there through injury
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 21, 2019, 12:05:43 AM
Man in the middle MR.  No doubt you can see up close how we are shaping up. Fair to say I think that the three pre season games to date we have done ok, but sure no one pays too much attention to pre season challenges but fair to say we have been holding our own, noticeably better than say this time last year. Wont matter a jot when Mc Kenna Cup starts in a fortnight and even that dosent matter that much when Paul Galvin brings his Wexford team to Glenavy on 26th January. That's when it matters and we all need to be there to shout the lads to two vital points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 12:25:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 21, 2019, 12:05:43 AM
Man in the middle MR.  No doubt you can see up close how we are shaping up. Fair to say I think that the three pre season games to date we have done ok, but sure no one pays too much attention to pre season challenges but fair to say we have been holding our own, noticeably better than say this time last year. Wont matter a jot when Mc Kenna Cup starts in a fortnight and even that dosent matter that much when Paul Galvin brings his Wexford team to Glenavy on 26th January. That's when it matters and we all need to be there to shout the lads to two vital points.

We've a few players injured or getting close to fitness, but for my limited knowledge of football we are on a better position than last at this stage as i  ;) a couple games last year and we are playing a lot better.

As for Galvin, he's having his own problems at the minute which sound very familiar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2019, 12:46:47 PM
We have been lacking players who can score from 40 yards- any of the new lads Looking like they can Do that ? Squad does seem stronger overall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2019, 12:46:47 PM
We have been lacking players who can score from 40 yards- any of the new lads Looking like they can Do that ? Squad does seem stronger overall

Bar Kerry I've not seen too many counties that have players that can take scores from 40 yards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2019, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2019, 12:46:47 PM
We have been lacking players who can score from 40 yards- any of the new lads Looking like they can Do that ? Squad does seem stronger overall

Bar Kerry I've not seen too many counties that have players that can take scores from 40 yards
Sure? With packed defenses at county level i think mos of the points scored come from this type of distance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2019, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2019, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2019, 12:46:47 PM
We have been lacking players who can score from 40 yards- any of the new lads Looking like they can Do that ? Squad does seem stronger overall

Bar Kerry I've not seen too many counties that have players that can take scores from 40 yards
Sure? With packed defenses at county level i think mos of the points scored come from this type of distance

I've done a few county friendly's lately and senior College games, I never heard their managers say shoot from distance, they are working the ball in regardless of the packed defence. You'll get the odd long distance one but nothing extra.

With the forward mark now you'll might see high ball heading into the forwards more often
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2019, 12:24:44 PM
It's a risk thing as much as ability sometimes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2019, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 22, 2019, 12:24:44 PM
It's a risk thing as much as ability sometimes.

But it doesn't happen though, shooting from distance is a lost skill, with the amount of training these lads do you'd wonder why they wouldn't have perfected it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2019, 12:48:47 PM
It's percentages etc. Recycle possession until you have a high percentage chance of scoring rather than a thirty to forty yard shot where a wide is a decent chance. There are probably more players can take the scores than do. It's just the direction of the game sadly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 01, 2020, 02:36:26 AM
Happy New Year lads. Doesn't matter if you're a chip eating Waa waa or a sheep loving culchie, we are all saffron at heart 👍👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 01, 2020, 11:16:08 AM
Happy New Year to all Saffron Gaaboarders as we enter a new decade. Let's make it a good one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 02, 2020, 09:49:49 AM
Promotion from Div 4
Casement work to begin
Seeing a Gaelfast plan

theres My wishes for the new Year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 03, 2020, 01:44:36 PM
Belfast GAA man you are over brimming with aau unhealthy dose of optimism. You are like Don Quixote sadly and only 1 of you wish list is realistic....promotion from Div 4 is achievable. Casement looks no close but may be delivered before anyone sees the Gaelfast plan publishe. Keep dreaming lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 03, 2020, 02:32:52 PM
The development plan for Gaelfast is to be undertaken in 2020 as outlined in the strategic plan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Degany - do you not think it strange the Plan is to be produced a year and half after Gaelfast started? have they just been winging it so far
BigBall - yes I am full of New Year optimism and will keep dreaming Of all 3 - maybe you are nursing a new Year hangover
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 03, 2020, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Degany - do you not think it strange the Plan is to be produced a year and half after Gaelfast started? have they just been winging it so far
BigBall - yes I am full of New Year optimism and will keep dreaming Of all 3 - maybe you are nursing a new Year hangover

IGaelfast have spent alot of time and effort with meetings / surveys of all stakeholders to establish a baseline audit of where antrim gaa is at.
They have reviewed and restructured the investment and purposes of development squads.
They have reviewed and restructured coaching within primary schools with a focus on links into clubs.
They have put coaching structures in place..to coach the club coaches .
Gaelfast is a long term project. Paul Donnelly is a very progressive leader. He has a long term vision .

In my experience , you have to test your practices to be the best practices that you can deliver,before articulating  it and documenting it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 03, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 02, 2020, 09:49:49 AM
Promotion from Div 4
Casement work to begin
Seeing a Gaelfast plan

theres My wishes for the new Year

I think we will see two out of these three.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 03, 2020, 05:41:04 PM
Paul Donnelly is a great fellow and can't doubt his commitment and passion for all things GAA. However post was filled in July 18 and I have the url for this below. It looks like no plan will be ready for a while - 2 years later.!!!!!!!!!
Brexit may be 'done' before this
and it's a little more of a complex enigma.
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2018/07/14/news/newly-appointed-gaelfast-chief-dr-paul-donnelly-makes-impassioned-appeal-to-clubs-and-for-casement-park-to-be-built-1382154/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 07:10:33 PM
All the talk when he got the job was that he blew everyone at interview with his PLan
The interview on that link highlights this is only a 5 year spending commitment only and there will be no plan in place for the first 2 years of it - he has very understanding employers!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2020, 11:07:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 07:10:33 PM
All the talk when he got the job was that he blew everyone at interview with his PLan
The interview on that link highlights this is only a 5 year spending commitment only and there will be no plan in place for the first 2 years of it - he has very understanding employers!!!!!!!1

How did your interview go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 11:33:38 PM
I didn't go for it but I do give about 20 hours a week volunteering To my club and just want the best for antrim and so the concern
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2020, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 11:33:38 PM
I didn't go for it but I do give about 20 hours a week volunteering To my club and just want the best for antrim and so the concern

Well done you on the twenty hours. Like most clubmen or other County volunteers then.

what would be your  plan? and have you factored in the costs for it and so on? I'd be interested to hear it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2020, 12:33:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2020, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2020, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 11:33:38 PM
I didn't go for it but I do give about 20 hours a week volunteering To my club and just want the best for antrim and so the concern

Well done you on the twenty hours. Like most clubmen or other County volunteers then.

what would be your  plan? and have you factored in the costs for it and so on? I'd be interested to hear it
Most clubmen do 20 hours a week volunteering? That's impressive!

Well if you're on committees within the club there's meetings if your kids are involved you'll be at the games helping out, if you look after a team there's untold hours go into that. Then there's the pints afterwards discussing the match! You've the club shop to look after too, or you can be a complete lazy feck, do nothing and expect everything, complain about others!

I know ones in our club would certainly put that amount of hours into it

Wish I'd twenty hours to give back to the club, I'm limited to looking after one of the teams just, I suppose I'd be less concerned about Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2020, 12:36:22 PM
I don't think the pints count ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2020, 01:19:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2020, 12:39:16 PM
There are people who would rack up 20 hours in the week. They'd be few though. Most clubmen wouldn't be doing anywhere near that.

Those that have retired or work less have more time to give.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 04, 2020, 04:17:58 PM
I work 40+ hours full time and was considering a second income from refereeing but could not fit this in with my 20 hour per week volunteering....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2020, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 04, 2020, 04:17:58 PM
I work 40+ hours full time and was considering a second income from refereeing but could not fit this in with my 20 hour per week volunteering....

Second income from refereeing   ;D

If there are any clampits out there refereeing for a second income they need bate up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 04, 2020, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2020, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 03, 2020, 11:33:38 PM
I didn't go for it but I do give about 20 hours a week volunteering To my club and just want the best for antrim and so the concern

Well done you on the twenty hours. Like most clubmen or other County volunteers then.

what would be your  plan? and have you factored in the costs for it and so on? I'd be interested to hear it
20 hours would be fairly standard for committee men who also take teams. MR2 u r no doubt a good gael but why are U so interested in my plan but not the guy in charge of Gaelfast? its not sh1T stirring to what to know the plan - this is a discussion Board ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2020, 12:50:54 PM
Good luck to everyone involved in Antrim Senior Football in 2020 which kick starts today in Ahoghill. Hope it's a great year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 05, 2020, 05:37:41 PM
Great to win today . Apart from McBride who stood out ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 05, 2020, 06:04:04 PM
I thought Peter Healy Marc Jordan and Paddy Gallagher had very sound games, and Ricky Johnston Niall Delargy and Conor Murray noticably picked things up a gear on their introduction. Mc Bride took both goals well. Lots to like and build on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CountyColours on January 06, 2020, 09:15:14 AM
Good result yesterday for the lads albeit with a bit of luck at the end. The main thing was we kept ourselves in the game and fair play to Paddy McBride who took his goals well. We have built a little bit of momentum which will be important leading into the Wexford game. With a few players still to come back from injuries I'd be optimistic we will be there or thereabouts come the end of the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 06, 2020, 09:57:00 AM
Great win for Saffs yesterday. We would of taken a draw after watching that 1st half. Points on the board though i think that league has alot of twists and turns to go yet.

Analysing that game, we played 2nd fiddle for long periods. Fermanagh were alot sharper, moved the ball quicker and were more physical. Thought they were getting caught up trying to be the type of players their manager once was, with all the off the ball antics instead of  concentrating on the scoreboard and i was glad they got their medicine at the end

Still think we need to strengthen in some areas. Thought GK was ropey enough with kickouts, think we have found out Rice isnt a Corner Back and is better out the pitch, still think we could do with a bit of presence in and around the middle. Inside forward line could do with a ball winner to allow us to be a bit more expansive when running the ball isnt on. Saying all that, a positive which was the grit to stay within touching distance and give ourselves a chance which we took is a trait i hope we can keep in each game, even if the quality isnt always there that mentality is a key asset.

Delargy and Ricky definately gave us a better platform though i thought Scott was very wasteful when he came on, giving the ball away on several occasions. Though we cant fault the lads effort.



MR2 looking at some of your most recent comments and especially the ones directed to myself and others who have had a different perspective to your own, i have picked up you come out with some rash comments to try and have the upper hand in your arguments. What is wrong with your man asking questions of Donnelly, or letting people scrutinise referees, or having an opinion on the current antrim team/ management? They should be able to do so on this forum without being called names or patronised when you come out with nonsense statements like "most volunteers do 20 hours a week"!

Most club volunteers do not do 20 hours or near it, you are talking on average 9/10. The fact you were factoring in pints as volunteering was hilarious reading... so how about in 2020 we let people have their say, challenge them and lets keep the childish/ farcical comments to a minimum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on January 06, 2020, 09:57:00 AM
Great win for Saffs yesterday. We would of taken a draw after watching that 1st half. Points on the board though i think that league has alot of twists and turns to go yet.

Analysing that game, we played 2nd fiddle for long periods. Fermanagh were alot sharper, moved the ball quicker and were more physical. Thought they were getting caught up trying to be the type of players their manager once was, with all the off the ball antics instead of  concentrating on the scoreboard and i was glad they got their medicine at the end

Still think we need to strengthen in some areas. Thought GK was ropey enough with kickouts, think we have found out Rice isnt a Corner Back and is better out the pitch, still think we could do with a bit of presence in and around the middle. Inside forward line could do with a ball winner to allow us to be a bit more expansive when running the ball isnt on. Saying all that, a positive which was the grit to stay within touching distance and give ourselves a chance which we took is a trait i hope we can keep in each game, even if the quality isnt always there that mentality is a key asset.

Delargy and Ricky definately gave us a better platform though i thought Scott was very wasteful when he came on, giving the ball away on several occasions. Though we cant fault the lads effort.



MR2 looking at some of your most recent comments and especially the ones directed to myself and others who have had a different perspective to your own, i have picked up you come out with some rash comments to try and have the upper hand in your arguments. What is wrong with your man asking questions of Donnelly, or letting people scrutinise referees, or having an opinion on the current antrim team/ management? They should be able to do so on this forum without being called names or patronised when you come out with nonsense statements like "most volunteers do 20 hours a week"!

Most club volunteers do not do 20 hours or near it, you are talking on average 9/10. The fact you were factoring in pints as volunteering was hilarious reading... so how about in 2020 we let people have their say, challenge them and lets keep the childish/ farcical comments to a minimum.

Most clubmen/women like committee members put in a awful lot of work that you or others may not see but take it for granted, some may put in more than 20 like the poster on here who is concerned about the Gaelfast plan, as for the pints I was taking the piss, I doubt very much anyone would have taken that one seriously.

As for your scrutinising referees/management/players that's fine knock yourself out, like you I'll have an opinion and if I disagree with yours or others I'll post it. You've posted plenty of rash comments also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 06, 2020, 11:50:36 AM
We had some good spells of play yesterday. Nice to see us break out of the ultra defensive mould that has been so tough to stomach in recent years. That being said, I'd be worried that we were very fortunate to beat a young fermanagh side that were extremely experimental, with up to 12 usual starters missing - if the fermanagh gentleman beside me was to be believed. We also were so untidy with our passing & finishing yesterday. The main positives were I thought Lynch and Healy were excellent at wing back, duffin and jordan done well against a physical midfield. Big mCcann showed well in full forward and mcBride was very sharp. Surely this team is capable of winning division 4. It was great to see T mcann, murray, cunningham all on the line watching on, exciting to see those guys back but we need them on the pitch as soon as can be.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2020, 07:34:23 PM
It's all about Wexford on 26th in Glenavy, that's the only show in town really and then a trip to Sligo the week after. If we can get points from those games we have a great chance of going up. Thats what this year is 99% about. Anything after that a bonus. Tomas will still be out and now Paddy C too who picked up a knock last week so it's up to other forwards in particular to step up to the plate. Conor Murrays return a massive boost.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 07, 2020, 10:04:48 AM
Your right there BS. Two crucial games. Though surely with a performanceon wednesday we could go in to the first game of the league with huge confidence. Hopefully lenny can give a few men game time that may have not featured last game. Id like to see Kerr give a chance to see what he is like as i dont think wev had anyone thats filled kerrs boots since he has gone. Also would like that FB line to get strengthened though without weakening our half back line. Wouldnt go with the lad mcauley at CHB either, need a bit more prsence in there if we have it. Perhaps Dermot McAleese or Niall Delargy both good on the ball and very effective with breaks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 07, 2020, 11:50:22 AM
So far things seem to be going well and the mood in the camp is good. The Mc Kenna Cup is really for trying things out, as much as Ulster Council will protest because it brings them in a few quid, really these matches are just glorified friendlies before the NFL starts. Lenny has gone with a much larger squad this year which no doubt will trim itself down in due course, but he can't be accused of not throwing the net out a good bit wider this year. You mention Dermot Mc Aleese and Niall Delargy....theyve both been out for a spell, Dermot with knee injury that required surgery and Niall took a few months out to sort out a recurring tendonitis problem, but they're both back up and at it now although Dermot is still a week or two behind. Lenny has proper options this year but probably his biggest challenge is to replace Paddy Mc Cormack who is on a years work placement. Really good corner backs arnt easy to find and often putting a half back in there dosent work, but all in all the panel is shaping up well. A fit Tomas, Paddy C and Conor Murray will give Lenny plenty of selection problems of the right kind!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2020, 04:10:35 PM
Goalkeeper does seem to a problem though I don't know if Kerr is the answer. LD, PG1 and Cargin didn't have great keeperS IMO in the latter stages of the championship. Maybe the options are in Div 2/3 teamS....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 07, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
Where is  your lad from last year Nugent? If there are better keepers elsewhere then why not. Its a pity Flood, Kerr and  O'Neill were all in around the same age. 3 good keepers IMO. Would easily make this current antrim team.

Few rumours circulating that Brendan Herron is back playing with Lamh Dearg after a recent spell in Derry with Baile Na Screen. Also can anyone on here that can confirm the following have retired....

-M.Dougan
-M.Magill
-K.Close
-Aidso
-Healy
-Kelly
-K.McGourty
-S.McVeigh

if so they would be huge losses to the club scene in antrim as they have been great servants to their clubs. Though iv heard they have all called it a day as work, families, injuries all being factors


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2020, 06:40:47 PM
Are you sure that is the same Brendan Herron?

Nugent is St. John's.

Can't answer whether those guys have retired. Would be a pity though. Close definitely had a big influence on county final this year but he has always been cursed by injury. A few of them would still have a bit left in the tank. McGourty must be the oldest there -39 /40 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 08, 2020, 08:45:24 AM
Yes same Brendan Herron. Brother of Micko. He definitely has left Baile Na Screen so id be interested to hear if he will give LD another year. That man deserved a cship medal.

Unless someone can enlighten us we will have to wait and see, though i agree. few of them regardless of age have still plenty to offer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2020, 09:22:11 AM
Ah I know Ballinascreen have a Benny Herron who's a completely different one which was why I asked. He played for Derry for a good few years. Didn't realise they had two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2020, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on January 08, 2020, 08:45:24 AM
Yes same Brendan Herron. Brother of Micko. He definitely has left Baile Na Screen so id be interested to hear if he will give LD another year. That man deserved a cship medal.

Unless someone can enlighten us we will have to wait and see, though i agree. few of them regardless of age have still plenty to offer.

Brendan would be older than Micko,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 08, 2020, 10:08:13 AM
Milltown what about that Galls contingency? Is that a load of gossip or any element of truth in it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2020, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on January 08, 2020, 10:08:13 AM
Milltown what about that Galls contingency? Is that a load of gossip or any element of truth in it?

Not sure, new management in place now former player looking after us in Paddy Murray, he knows the players well so I'd say we'll know on the first session who's making themselves available. We'd be hampered for sure losing so many experienced heads, but they owe the club nothing, they have, on both fronts, knocked their pan in for the club, and if they retire they'll be on the training ground with our kids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 09, 2020, 10:11:04 AM
any one at the game last night to give a review ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 09, 2020, 10:58:48 AM
Not much to say on the game last night. Down were just the superior team from the get go. Our lads just may put that game down as a learning curve. 7 points down at half time the game was over, only lost the 2nd half by a point which was a bit of improvement but overall were never really in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 09, 2020, 11:20:51 AM
McKenna cup is about trying out new players which was reflected in the experimental teams. Wouldn't be too worried about the result.

How did some of the new faces do? Saw on the Saffron Gael that Niall Delargy lined out at midfield?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 09, 2020, 11:33:57 AM
Big issue with fitness levels it seemed to me.  Down just changed gear when they needed to, especially up front.  Our defenders and midfielders struggled badly against their movement and speed when they stepped it up.
On a positive note if we keep working with the forwards they'll score plenty against a lot of teams, but I'd love to see the defenders being sharper and more aggressive, and coming out with the ball driving at the opposition, not just stopping on the half way line and passing it sideways.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 10, 2020, 12:51:47 PM
Hard to judge anything in January but that was a very poor down team and beat Antrim quite easily. Antrim seemed physically smaller than down and the defence was very loose with their marking. Couple of positives with Ruairi McCann having a good game in full forward and gave Kevin McKernan a tough time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2020, 01:25:48 PM
Yea a couple of good games in a row from Ruairi. Maybe this is the year he steps up. Adam Loughran looked particularly sharp in the last quarter albeit the game may have fizzled out a bit af that stage. High hope's for this lad!

Both corner backs were debutants too and their men 13 and 15 didnt score at all despite the scoreline....that's another (small) plus too. Wouldnt panic, we should have a stronger and more settled look come 26th.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 10, 2020, 02:01:59 PM
Adam is a class act and has it all but still very young. Hope there isn't too much expected of him at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2020, 03:38:32 PM
All in its own time JS. But the material looks good!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 10, 2020, 04:43:10 PM
His biggest asset is his attitude.  He'll not be there just for the craic, he'll be there to win things. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2020, 05:57:46 PM
Can't quite make iT out on Twitter but is that a Gaelfast plan unveiled at Croke today ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2020, 05:11:51 PM
Good to see a number of Antrim players playing Sigerson. Fyfe and Eastwood, at least, yesterday, and mcenhill and Quinn today. (Possibly McCabe LD too?).

Hopefully it will be good for the development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 13, 2020, 03:46:39 PM
Could anyone on here confirm if the Winter league is still a competition throughout ulster? If so is there any of our club teams involved? Couldnt find it anywhere on the web
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 13, 2020, 04:32:00 PM
https://ulster.gaa.ie/2019/12/ulster-club-football-league-2020-applications-now-open/ (https://ulster.gaa.ie/2019/12/ulster-club-football-league-2020-applications-now-open/)

Do you mean this? That is about all I could see and don't know any more myself. I know some south west teams have been in it in the past but can't recall seeing any belfast teams in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 13, 2020, 05:09:13 PM
Portglenone entered. Starts Sunday 26th. Not sure of the draw yet though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 14, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Aghagallon in it too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 14, 2020, 09:05:01 AM
The Antrim teams in the winter league this year are: Aghagallon, Portglenone, St Brigids & Cargin.

From Derry: Ballinascreen, Claudy, Ballinderry, Coleraine & Lavey.

From Tyrone: Killyclogher, Ardboe & Dungannon.

From Donegal: Kilcar.

From Down: Bryansford.

Not sure if the fixtures have been announced yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 14, 2020, 09:38:20 AM
Yeah thats the competition. I remember seeing teams playing in it years ago and remember going and watching Portglenone playing a year they got to the final of it but that was going back a few years. Maybe BS can recall that time. Good to see it still going but it doesnt seem to get alot of interest. Serious bit of travelling for glorified friendlies though some clubs may find it useful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 14, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
Useful for getting a few competitive games before the league starts, but I don't think anyone takes it too seriously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2020, 02:58:16 PM
we used to enter it for the hurling but dont anymore. pointless games played on pitches that werent fit for the games and you had teams not play the final group games when they were out of the running.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on January 14, 2020, 03:31:31 PM
Ulster League Fixtures

FIXTURES:
2020 Ulster GAA Football Intermediate Club League
02-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 1
Neutral Venue TBC   11:00   Ballinderry Shamrocks      V      Kilcar
Toome   11:00   Cargin Erin's Own      V      Eoghan Rua
Bryansford   11:00   Bryansford       V      St Brigid's
Aghagallon   11:00   Aghagallon St Mary's      V      Dungannon Thomas Clarke's
Killyclogher   11:00   Killyclogher St Mary's      V      Ballinascreen St Colm's
Claudy   11:00   Claudy John Mitchel's      V      Portglenone Roger Casement's
Lavey   11:00   Lavey Erin's Own      V      Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa

09-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 2
Dungannon   11:00   Dungannon Thomas Clarke's      V      Bryansford
Ardboe   11:00   Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa      V      Claudy John Mitchel's
Kilcar   11:00   KIlcar      V      Killyclogher St Mary's
Ballinascreen   11:00   Ballinascreen St Colm's      V      Cargin Erin's Own
Coleraine   11:00   Eoghan Rua      V      Portglenone Roger Casement's
Belfast   11:00   St Brigid's      V      Lavey Erin's Own
Ballinderry   11:00   Ballinderry Shamrock's      V      Aghagallon St Mary's
   
16-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 3
Portglenone   11:00   Portglenone Casement's      V      Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa
Killyclogher   11:00   Killyclogher St Mary's      V      Cargin Erin's Own
Claudy   11:00   Claudy John Mitchel's      V      Kilcar
Dungannon   11:00   Dungannon Thomas Clarke's      V      Eoghan Rua
Bryansford   11:00   Bryansford      V      Ballinderry Shamrocks
Aghagallon   11:00   Aghagallon St Mary's      V      Lavey Erin's Own
Belfast   11:00   St Brigid's      V      Ballinascreen St Colm's




2020 Ulster GAA Football Intermediate Club League
02-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 1
SECTION A
Tattyreagh   11:00   Tattyreagh St Patrick's      V      Greenlough Oliver Plunkett's
Portadown   11:00   Tír na nÓg      V      Banagher St Mary's

SECTION B
Letterkenny   11:00   Letterkenny Gaels      V      Naomh Eoghan
Steelstown   11:00   Steelstown Brian Óg's      V      Naomh Bríd

SECTION C
Foreglen   11:00   Foreglen William O'Brien's      V      Doire Trasna
Leckpatrick   11:00   Owen Roes O'Neill's       V      Naomh Muire

SECTION D
Tullysaran   11:00   Tullysaran O'Connell's      V      Aghaloo O'Neill's
Ballymaguigan   11:00   Ballymaguigan St Trea's      V      Tyholland St Patrick's

SECTION E
Saul   11:00   Saul St Patrick's      V      Clan na nGael
Annaclone   11:00   Annaclone      V      Killanny Geraldines

SECTION F
Glenullin   11:00   Glenullin John Mitchel's      V      Sarsfield's
Castledawson   11:00   Castledawson St Malachy's      V      Con Magee's Glenravel


09-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 2
SECTION A
Greenlough   11:00   Greenlough Oliver Plunkett's      V      Tír na nÓg
Banagher   11:00   Banagher St Mary's      V      Tattyreagh St Patrick's

SECTION B
Letterkenny   11:00   Letterkenny Gaels      V      Steelstown Brian Óg's
Newtownstewart   11:00   Naomh Eoghan      V      Naomh Bríd

SECTION C
Leckpatrick   11:00   Owen Roes O'Neill's      V      Doire Trasna
Naomh Muire   11:00   Naomh Muire       V      Foreglen William O'Brien's

SECTION D
Aghaloo   11:00   Aghaloo O'Neill's      V      Tyholland St Patrick's
Tullysaran   11:00   Tullysaran O'Connell's      V      Ballymaguigan St Trea's

SECTION E
Saul   11:00   Saul St Patrick's      V      Annaclone
Killanny   11:00   Killanny Geraldines      V      Clan na nGael

SECTION F
High Moss   11:00   Sarsfield's      V      Castledawson St Malachy's
Glenravel   11:00   Con Magee's      V      Glenullin John Mitchel's



16-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 3
SECTION A
Greenlough   11:00   Greenlough Oliver Plunkett's      V      Banagher St Mary's
Portadown   11:00   Tír na nÓg      V      Tattyreagh St Patrick's

SECTION B
Naomh Bríd   11:00   Naomh Bríd      V      Letterkenny Gaels
Newtownstweart   11:00   Naomh Eoghan      V      Steelstown Brian Óg's

SECTION C
Foreglen   11:00   Foreglen William O'Brien's      V      Owen Roes O'Neill's
Derry   11:00   Doire Trasna      V      Naomh Muire

SECTION D
Tyholland   11:00   Tyholland St Patrick's      V      Tullysaran O'Connell's
Ballymaguigan   11:00   Ballymaguigan St Trea's      V      Aghaloo O'Neill's

SECTION E
Lurgan   11:00   Clan na nGael      V      Annaclone
Killanny   11:00   Killanny Geraldines      V      Saul St Patrick's

SECTION F
Castledawson   11:00   Castledawson St Malachy's      V      Glenullin John Mitchel's
High Moss   11:00   Sarsfield's      V      Con Magee's



2020 Ulster GAA Football Junior Club League
02-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 1
SECTION A
Belfast   11:00   Na Piarsaigh      V      Cookstown Fr Rock's
Glenelly   11:00   Glenelly St Joseph's      V      Ballerin Sarsfield's

SECTION B
Castlederg   11:00   Castlederg St Eugene's      V      Urney St Columba's
Craigbane   11:00   Craigbane St Joseph's      V      Limavady Wolfhounds

SECTION C
Drumalee   11:00   Drumalee      V      Brackaville Owen Roes
Derrynoose   11:00   Derrynoose St Mochua's      V      Kildress Wolfe Tones

SECTION D
Templeport   11:00   Templeport St Aidan's      V      Drumragh Sarsfield's
Aughnamullen   11:00   Aughnamullen Sarsfield's      V      Brocagh Emmet's


09-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 2
SECTION A
Ballerin   11:00   Ballerin Sarsfield's      V      Cookstown Fr Rock's
Belfast   11:00   Na Piarsaigh      V      Glenelly St Joseph's

SECTION B
Limavady   11:00   Limavady Wolfhounds      V      Castlederg St Eugene's
Urney   11:00   Urney St Columba's      V      Craigbane St Joseph's
                  
SECTION C                  
Brackaville   11:00   Brackaville Owen Roes      V      Derrynoose St Mochua's
Kildress   11:00   Kildress Wolfe Tones      V      Drumalee

SECTION D
Brocagh   11:00   Brocagh Emmet's      V      Templeport St Aidan's
Drumragh   11:00   Drumragh Sarsfield's      V      Aughnamullen Sarsfield's


16-02-2020 (SUN)
ROUND 3
SECTION A
Cookstown   11:00   Cookstown Fr Rock's      V      Glenelly St Joseph's
Ballerin   11:00   Ballerin Sarsfield's      V      Na Piarsaigh

SECTION B
Castlederg    11:00   Castlederg St Eugene's      V      Craigbane St Joseph's
Urney   11:00   Urney St Columba's      V      Limavady Wolfhounds

SECTION C
Drumalee   11:00   Drumalee      V      Derrynoose St Mochua's
Kildress   11:00   Kildress Wolfe Tones      V      Brackaville Owen Roes

SECTION D
Templeport   11:00   Templeport St Aidan's      V      Aughnamullen Sarsfield's
Drumragh   11:00   Drumragh Sarsfield's      V      Brocagh Emmet's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 14, 2020, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 14, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
Useful for getting a few competitive games before the league starts, but I don't think anyone takes it too seriously.

Kilcoo won it last year - not sure what they're at this sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2020, 01:37:28 PM
U would have to feel sorry for Lenny given the artilce in the Irish news today given the constant turnover of players he has to deal with - very hard to build a team and understandings without a settled Team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2020, 05:35:01 PM
There has been a high turnover of players alright and the likes of Fitzy and Paddy Mc Cormack were two of his best players last year, their loss is substantial..but a good argument can be made that we have the strongest panel available for some while. It was a good article though and you couldn't argue with one word of it.

Sunday is going to be a good test of our ability to get out of this division, and Wexford won't be anyones pushover. Hopefully a good crowd can get up to Glenavy and get behind the team and help them settle down for two very important points to take to Sligo the following week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 21, 2020, 12:20:20 AM
Civil unrest starting to appear in the Deep South west?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 21, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
So div 2/3 leagues are starting on 1st March - a day after winter ends !! Whats the rush
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 21, 2020, 08:15:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2020, 12:20:20 AM
Civil unrest starting to appear in the Deep South west?

What are you referring to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 21, 2020, 08:21:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 21, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
So div 2/3 leagues are starting on 1st March - a day after winter ends !! Whats the rush

seen that last night. Div 1 starts 29th March and the hurling leagues 19th April.

whats the panic to get games started so early?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 21, 2020, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 21, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
So div 2/3 leagues are starting on 1st March - a day after winter ends !! Whats the rush

And the leagues still won't be wrapped up until November.

It is a bit early alright but If it's done according to plan then it will be finished by by August and then championship played in August and Sept. That's a 6 month league season which is fair enough when you compare it to other field sports like soccer and rugby.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 21, 2020, 08:27:07 AM
Leagues to be completed before championship starts.

Championship probably starting in mid June in order to condense all completions into the calendar year.

All Ireland Club semi finals 12 December 2020 with final the first week in January 2021
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 21, 2020, 08:54:46 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 21, 2020, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 21, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
So div 2/3 leagues are starting on 1st March - a day after winter ends !! Whats the rush

And the leagues still won't be wrapped up until November.

It is a bit early alright but If it's done according to plan then it will be finished by by August and then championship played in August and Sept. That's a 6 month league season which is fair enough when you compare it to other field sports like soccer and rugby.

that was the case last year too, but leagues started on 31st March, so why 4 weeks earlier this year (for div 2/3)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 21, 2020, 09:24:44 AM
Reasons for the change were stated as, the condensing of the national GAA calendar and players disdain for mid week fixtures so more games to be played on Sundays.

To me it shows a real disregard to Division 2 teams with county players as 3 national league fixtures will clash with Div 2 league games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2020, 09:51:43 AM
Club final first week in January. They really don't give a crap about the club player :(

At least the leagues will be finished early.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 21, 2020, 10:52:43 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on January 21, 2020, 09:24:44 AM
Reasons for the change were stated as, the condensing of the national GAA calendar and players disdain for mid week fixtures so more games to be played on Sundays.

To me it shows a real disregard to Division 2 teams with county players as 3 national league fixtures will clash with Div 2 league games.

The Division 2 clubs who have county players have the option to call off any league games that would clash with county games on a Sunday / weekend.

The option then would be to play the fixture midweek.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 21, 2020, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 21, 2020, 10:52:43 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on January 21, 2020, 09:24:44 AM
Reasons for the change were stated as, the condensing of the national GAA calendar and players disdain for mid week fixtures so more games to be played on Sundays.

To me it shows a real disregard to Division 2 teams with county players as 3 national league fixtures will clash with Div 2 league games.

The Division 2 clubs who have county players have the option to call off any league games that would clash with county games on a Sunday / weekend.

The option then would be to play the fixture midweek.

Where do you play the midweek games in March if clubs don't have floodlights?

Why not align the start date of Division 2 with Division 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on January 21, 2020, 11:20:12 AM
Div 1 and 2 should be started together on 29th March. Let Div 3 start on 1st March.

If you are a Div 2 team with a county player, you have the option to call your games off and the CCC will then refix. Refix to the dates that the additional Div 1 Fixtures will be played after there later start. Anyone else confused yet?

With the Senior Hurling starting on the 19th April, does that mean there will be fixtures during the Joe McDonagh campaign?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 21, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on January 21, 2020, 11:20:12 AM
Div 1 and 2 should be started together on 29th March. Let Div 3 start on 1st March.

If you are a Div 2 team with a county player, you have the option to call your games off and the CCC will then refix. Refix to the dates that the additional Div 1 Fixtures will be played after there later start. Anyone else confused yet?

With the Senior Hurling starting on the 19th April, does that mean there will be fixtures during the Joe McDonagh campaign?

Joe McDonagh fixtures are played on a Saturday.

Players usually have the option of playing for their club on the Sunday - has happened before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on January 21, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
This is just the start of it. We need a complete overhaul in the way fixtures are played in our county. Mindsets need to change because croke park aren't for shifting. 2021 will be packed tight. I don't envy the job of whoever is doing the schedules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 21, 2020, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 21, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
This is just the start of it. We need a complete overhaul in the way fixtures are played in our county. Mindsets need to change because croke park aren't for shifting. 2021 will be packed tight. I don't envy the job of whoever is doing the schedules.

Do you think ultimately they will shift from the hurling one week football the next? With the calendar being condensed will they maybe make it that hurling and football be played same week for example a hurling game tues/ wed and football thurs/fri just seems that something is going to have tk five somewhere along h the line, that'll be a disaster for dual clubs though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 22, 2020, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 21, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on January 21, 2020, 11:20:12 AM
Div 1 and 2 should be started together on 29th March. Let Div 3 start on 1st March.

If you are a Div 2 team with a county player, you have the option to call your games off and the CCC will then refix. Refix to the dates that the additional Div 1 Fixtures will be played after there later start. Anyone else confused yet?

With the Senior Hurling starting on the 19th April, does that mean there will be fixtures during the Joe McDonagh campaign?

Joe McDonagh fixtures are played on a Saturday.

Players usually have the option of playing for their club on the Sunday - has happened before

Yeah they have done that last year. we played our D1 league games in the hurling minus our county players last season and id expect it to be the same this year. we didnt have them for any football games either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on January 22, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 21, 2020, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 21, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
This is just the start of it. We need a complete overhaul in the way fixtures are played in our county. Mindsets need to change because croke park aren't for shifting. 2021 will be packed tight. I don't envy the job of whoever is doing the schedules.

Do you think ultimately they will shift from the hurling one week football the next? With the calendar being condensed will they maybe make it that hurling and football be played same week for example a hurling game tues/ wed and football thurs/fri just seems that something is going to have tk five somewhere along h the line, that'll be a disaster for dual clubs though

I don't know what the solution will be but the way you are thinking there is an example of how the way we think about fixtures will have to change. I agree, the hardest hit will be the dual clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2020, 01:34:47 PM
Its the same problems every year and I've yet to hear one proper solution, the facts are we are a dual county we have dual clubs and we have dual players.

We run our leagues off based on accommodating the county teams and trying to be understanding to the dual element we have, you can't please everyone, there are no counties out there that are dual (Cork, Dublin Galway and co) that have the perfect set up, if they did we'd all use them, they use the starred formats or similar ones, we tried that in the past and the clubs were cracking up as they didn't get to use their star players.

We've tried play off's in the past too and that didn't go down well with some, there has been numerous attempts by people to keep everyone happy, its impossible. Croke give the county a timetable and we have to fit our competitions into that.. We want our county winners to have the best prep before their attempt in the Ulster club championships to its got to be timed right (unlike last year for an injury ravaged Cargin team) but that was unheard of due to the replays.

So i'd be all ears to hear of the decent solutions you have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 22, 2020, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2020, 01:34:47 PM
Its the same problems every year and I've yet to hear one proper solution, the facts are we are a dual county we have dual clubs and we have dual players.

We run our leagues off based on accommodating the county teams and trying to be understanding to the dual element we have, you can't please everyone, there are no counties out there that are dual (Cork, Dublin Galway and co) that have the perfect set up, if they did we'd all use them, they use the starred formats or similar ones, we tried that in the past and the clubs were cracking up as they didn't get to use their star players.

We've tried play off's in the past too and that didn't go down well with some, there has been numerous attempts by people to keep everyone happy, its impossible. Croke give the county a timetable and we have to fit our competitions into that.. We want our county winners to have the best prep before their attempt in the Ulster club championships to its got to be timed right (unlike last year for an injury ravaged Cargin team) but that was unheard of due to the replays.

So i'd be all ears to hear of the decent solutions you have.

I don't envy any man or woman who sits on a fixture committee. Where do you get the days of the week and more importantly referees??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 22, 2020, 03:37:54 PM
anyone a stab at what the team is going to be for sunday ?
I'm going with

oisin kerr

rdelargy
ricky j
Patrick Gallagher

Niall Delargy
Decky Lynch
peter healy

marc Jordan
Conor murray

fintan burke
paddy McBride
Eunan walsh


Oran eastwood
R McCann
conor small

don't think it will be to far away from that based on what ive seen this year....






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 22, 2020, 04:31:52 PM
Unfortunately the elite growing manifestation of our games and the veering off towards professionalism, which is reflected in the county football/ hurling annual training and competition schedules, has little to no room for our county boards to provide anything other than a hectic calendar of fixtures. They are trying their best!! They are living off, the scraps of the table which croke park allocates them in terms of dates. The hierarchy of the GAA are completely ruining the whole ethos of our games and leaving the county players with very little opportunity to play with their clubs for most of the season. and if they do they run the risk of getting injured as most club games fall a day or two later following a county game. Thats not including the S&C they are expected to partake in with the county set ups. It has a negative knock on effect for club teams who may have 2/3/4 county players that are ultimately left to pay the price.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2020, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on January 22, 2020, 03:37:54 PM
anyone a stab at what the team is going to be for sunday ?
I'm going with

oisin kerr

rdelargy
ricky j
Patrick Gallagher

Niall Delargy
Decky Lynch
peter healy

marc Jordan
Conor murray

fintan burke
paddy McBride
Eunan walsh


Oran eastwood
R McCann
conor small

don't think it will be to far away from that based on what ive seen this year....
No Cunningham or McCann? much was made of their return...only saying like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 22, 2020, 09:19:12 PM
True but PC sat out a few weeks due to hamstring tweak after going well in a couple of pre season friendlies. Tomas out a bit longer nowhere near match fit so hes at least a few weeks behind Paddy. Hopefully both will have plenty of game time as league progresses. Dermot Mc Aleese back training too after a bit of surgery around Halloween. He wont be far away either before its over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 23, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
BS how do you know so much regarding affairs in panel. May i ask if u are giving a hand or take much to do with set up? Good to have a bit of inside knowkledge. Keeps the discussion board well informed. Much appreciated
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2020, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on January 23, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
BS how do you know so much regarding affairs in panel. May i ask if u are giving a hand or take much to do with set up? Good to have a bit of inside knowkledge. Keeps the discussion board well informed. Much appreciated


Training sessions are an open affair, they train at J'town, I've been down a few times, you'll get plenty insight if you go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
See Ross Carr has taken over the reins at Ardoyne.  Sounds like a decent appointment for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 23, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
See Ross Carr has taken over the reins at Ardoyne.  Sounds like a decent appointment for them.
No doubt very expensive, at least in line with SW clubs salary structure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2020, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on January 23, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
BS how do you know so much regarding affairs in panel. May i ask if u are giving a hand or take much to do with set up? Good to have a bit of inside knowkledge. Keeps the discussion board well informed. Much appreciated

Eh?? Check out the panel!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 23, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
Most of what I put on here is fairly common knowledge RM.....anything new that I might pick up occasionally that is of an insider only nature obviously needs to stay private!

Big big game on Sunday. Please God we can get off to a good start and keep Wexford on the  back foot, but it's not going to be easy. A big supportive crowd would be a real asset, nothing more than Lenny and the boys deserve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2020, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 23, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
See Ross Carr has taken over the reins at Ardoyne.  Sounds like a decent appointment for them.
No doubt very expensive, at least in line with SW clubs salary structure

SW clubs don't pay in Raffos chips and pastie baps.. they pay in red diesel & tins o boost.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2020, 11:48:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2020, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 23, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
See Ross Carr has taken over the reins at Ardoyne.  Sounds like a decent appointment for them.
No doubt very expensive, at least in line with SW clubs salary structure

SW clubs don't pay in Raffos chips and pastie baps.. they pay in red diesel & tins o boost.

I'd it under good authority that Ardoyne a weren't paying team..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 24, 2020, 08:13:34 AM
Any links to buy tickets for Sunday's game?

Can't find any online.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 24, 2020, 08:25:44 AM
*Brendan Antrim, i can obviously read and see what the panel is, im refering to BS's contribution as last couple of months. Him and Miltown to be fair to them keep the group well informed. i was just looking to know if there was any connections to our panel.

Im delighted to hear a gael like Ross Carr is with ardoyne. Hopefully inspire alot of young lads and that club to kick on and realise their potential.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2020, 08:37:01 AM
Well done Ardoyne, that's a great coup. Ross Carr a legend and what a footballer. Hopefully his involvement can result in the emergence of two or three elite players from the Ardoyne area in the next generation.

These areas are the real battleground to source potentially elite players of the future, get them early and a good grounding in the basic skills and enjoyment of the game, and into the ethos of the association. Weve lost far too many "potentials" to soccer over the years. I mean..theres literally thousands of young men in places like Ardoyne, The Markets, Lower Falls, (Davitts getting their show on the road now too) and North Belfast where St Endas have also got their act together. You couldnt put a number on the quality sportsmen in those areas that were lost to Antrim gaa. It's clear to see that there is obvious development in these areas which Gaelfast etc can further propagate and develop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 24, 2020, 08:55:26 AM
i see we have the re-emergence of a team to the South Antrim league this year in the form of Wolfe Tones from Greencastle. Good luck to them all and its good to see another new club, esp in a new area of the county that has no teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2020, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 24, 2020, 08:55:26 AM
i see we have the re-emergence of a team to the South Antrim league this year in the form of Wolfe Tones from Greencastle. Good luck to them all and its good to see another new club, esp in a new area of the county that has no teams.

Would be my nearest local team since moving outta Belfast over 20 years!

Good luck to them, southy football I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2020, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2020, 11:48:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2020, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 23, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
See Ross Carr has taken over the reins at Ardoyne.  Sounds like a decent appointment for them.
No doubt very expensive, at least in line with SW clubs salary structure

SW clubs don't pay in Raffos chips and pastie baps.. they pay in red diesel & tins o boost.

I'd it under good authority that Ardoyne a weren't paying team..
MR2 if your source is right that's brilliant that's he is doing it voluntary and fair play to him in an area that's had it Tight fo so long
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2020, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2020, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 24, 2020, 08:55:26 AM
i see we have the re-emergence of a team to the South Antrim league this year in the form of Wolfe Tones from Greencastle. Good luck to them all and its good to see another new club, esp in a new area of the county that has no teams.

Would be my nearest local team since moving outta Belfast over 20 years!

Good luck to them, southy football I believe
really is a great story to hear and fair play to the volunteers down there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 24, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2020, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2020, 11:48:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2020, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 23, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 23, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
See Ross Carr has taken over the reins at Ardoyne.  Sounds like a decent appointment for them.
No doubt very expensive, at least in line with SW clubs salary structure

SW clubs don't pay in Raffos chips and pastie baps.. they pay in red diesel & tins o boost.

I'd it under good authority that Ardoyne a weren't paying team..
MR2 if your source is right that's brilliant that's he is doing it voluntary and fair play to him in an area that's had it Tight fo so long
No doubt about the football calibre of the new manager but I can't see that being done on the cheap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2020, 08:39:15 PM
Sure if it's for decent expenses what's the problem? Outside your own club who would you take for free, give up 4 days a week or more? Even if players chipped in £2 a session, what's the problem? Some people more interested in what's in it for Ross!  I'm sure Ardoyne came looking for him, not the other way around. Hope it goes well for both parties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2020, 09:48:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2020, 08:39:15 PM
Sure if it's for decent expenses what's the problem? Outside your own club who would you take for free, give up 4 days a week or more? Even if players chipped in £2 a session, what's the problem? Some people more interested in what's in it for Ross!  I'm sure Ardoyne came looking for him, not the other way around. Hope it goes well for both parties.
The problem is 3 things
- it is against the rules of the GAA - professionalism
- it means richer clubs can buy a better chance at success
- it tells your own club members that they r not good enough to take the team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 24, 2020, 09:54:00 PM
BS, agree with best wishes to Ross & Ardoyne. However anyone who thinks this is a £2per session cost to players is kidding themselves. This will be will be like the sums bandied about last year for SW clubs and from memory £30K was mentioned and for a very small city club that's a huge outlay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
BigBall best wishes my .....!
https://www.gaa.ie/news/payment-managers-strike-the-heart-gaa-ethos/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2020, 10:55:16 PM
Big shout out to Sean Kelly on a great video for the big game on Sunday. The man puts some time into his work and goes way and beyond the duty of a county PRO. Best in the business!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 25, 2020, 07:27:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2020, 10:55:16 PM
Big shout out to Sean Kelly on a great video for the big game on Sunday. The man puts some time into his work and goes way and beyond the duty of a county PRO. Best in the business!

He really does do a great job and seems to love his role too.  Him and his wee girl doing some serious travelling! Lovely fella too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 26, 2020, 05:41:01 PM
Super win for the county today - I thought the scoreline didn't reflect The ease of win as we had too many wides but good day all round....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 26, 2020, 06:36:18 PM
Great opening 15 minutes, then Wexford upped their intensity for a while and we stalled a bit, but great start again to second half pushed us through.  Goals win games and we got three.  Big McCann did everything right in full forward.  Hope we use him to the max.  Early ball and he'll cause panic in most defences. Not sure how good or poor Wexford are, but we look like we could give promotion a rattle, especially if we back it up next week in Sligo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2020, 06:55:07 PM
Sheer relief to get that monkey off our backs. All over the pitch we competed well and looked the better team throughout. There is a good system going that players are sticking to and it could be very effective in this division.

Some excellent performances, Oisin Kerr offers us much more assurance in goals and pulled off a first class fingertip save when it was needed. Paddy Gallagher superb throughout as well, and Big Ruairi stepping up all the time. A very satisfactory days work, excellent in places but a few players taking pot shots when a smarter pass would have been the option the only grey spot on an otherwise good day for Antrim.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2020, 07:13:51 PM
A very encouraging performance. Agree that Paddy Gallagher was terrific throughout, I would say nearly everyone posted strong performances today. Obviously McCann with left his mark his goals, I'd still like to see us feeding him more 50/50 balls, I think he would do well against most teams in this division in that scenario. Ricky was great too, full back line looks solid. Our third goal was started with a turnover from James McCauley, he played v well, Conor Murray did too...lots did.

In some ways the day me longed to Paddy C. Pure class and not just from frees.

Be interesting to see how Wexford get on, some fine individual players for sure and Ben Brosnan kicked a couple of great points. But they are lacking something...

Good days work. Felt good to watch it and well done Glenavy, well stewarded and well set up. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2020, 07:37:55 PM
Good point Brendan that everyone did their bit today. At around 45 or 50 mins I was saying to myself what changes are needed and there was nothing obvious! Also I thought that James Mc Auley had a great game, hes another very solid addition to the team. If we are still happy this time next week we will be nicely on our way. The real supporters will find their way to Sligo but it would be good if an extra hundred or two made the trip West.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 27, 2020, 04:13:06 PM
Important to keep grounded, that was a decent wexford team with a few main men missing like ourselves and we seem to have caught them cold. I dont think anyone could have predicted how well our men done yesterday. I liked niall delargy in that role which gave him a bit more freedom, i thought kerr was very composed and i thought defence was solid. Jordan impressed in midfield and offers us something different rather than just fielder. Though i feel that any teams that want to well against us will need to push up on our kick out. I think we could be vulnerable if forced to kick long and win breaks. Saying that it may benefit our forwards if we can get possession.

Not to take away from a great result!! Well done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2020, 07:48:18 PM
Lenny had the troops well up for that one - there was a feeling we had beaten ourselves down there last year. Agree RM a lot of very solid performances, not like anyone was stand out brilliant or stand out poor - just good solid performances all over the pitch. Sometimes when you have a Fitzy you feel everything has to go through him, but this year other players look ready to step up and carry more responsibility.

As you say let's not get carried away. The wides tally was starting to mount yesterday and other days that could come back to bite. A couple of players a bit too trigger happy for my own liking, get head up and keep playing the percentages.

Peter Healy another who impressed yesterday some workrate on him. I'd say his stats were good. Great to have him back again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 28, 2020, 09:51:50 AM
Like the look of big McCann at 14. Seems to have progressed and become a real handful up there. Also like the look of Niall Delargy in that more advanced role. Not a natural forward but a touch of class and a very intelligent and unselfish player who can take his man on and make things happen. Oisin Kerr seems a good addition to the team along with Healey. Would like to see a FF line of Eastwood, McCann and Small.

I am not as convinced about some of our defenders as you lot seem to be, but hoping to be proved wrong. Hopefully we can get a bit of momentum going and kick on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2020, 10:18:57 AM
No Cunningham in your ff line ? I know he isn't Brilliant from play but I d say the players love knowing that 90% og Frees will be scored
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 28, 2020, 10:52:00 AM
I think what Eastwood would contribute additionally from play would negate the couple of frees that might be missed without PC. Just my opinion. Its a nice problem for Lenny to have, picking between two quality but different kinds of players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
Surprised to see Naomh Eanna advertising for a hurling manager - they have been been paying big for hurling and Football managers in recent years - wonder is the chequebook feeling the Strain
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 28, 2020, 03:59:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
Surprised to see Naomh Eanna advertising for a hurling manager - they have been been paying big for hurling and Football managers in recent years - wonder is the chequebook feeling the Strain

Sambo away back to Cushendall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2020, 04:43:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
Surprised to see Naomh Eanna advertising for a hurling manager - they have been been paying big for hurling and Football managers in recent years - wonder is the chequebook feeling the Strain

Wrong thread  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2020, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2020, 04:43:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
Surprised to see Naomh Eanna advertising for a hurling manager - they have been been paying big for hurling and Football managers in recent years - wonder is the chequebook feeling the Strain

Wrong thread  ;)
they have a dual code  chequebook !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 29, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
Sounds like the so called 12 Apostles have run out of money... You can't pay for ever in amateur sports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Dont know what he Apostles is about but clubs like Naomh Eanna will be scundered when the money runs out and they have to ask their own to do it for free
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2020, 02:20:21 PM
Why the dislike against St Endas?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2020, 03:12:08 PM
If you look back on my posts you will see I'm against all clubs paying managers as it is a form of cheating in mt book

Naomh Eanna happen to be paying 2 that's all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2020, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2020, 03:12:08 PM
If you look back on my posts you will see I'm against all clubs paying managers as it is a form of cheating in mt book

Naomh Eanna happen to be paying 2 that's all

Cheating? Same as playing over age players or players under a different name?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 30, 2020, 04:36:09 PM
or players transferring clubs for glory. Like musical chairs in Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2020, 07:47:17 PM
Yes agree those are both cheating - what's your point lads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2020, 08:23:56 PM
I'm trying to work out is it an Ant and Dec partnership or just the one person
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2020, 08:29:16 PM
Cheating... Sorry but what a load of crap.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2020, 08:35:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2020, 08:29:16 PM
Cheating... Sorry but what a load of crap.
dont take my word for It
"We must be clear on the issue here: it is not about availing of the services of 'outsiders'; it is solely about making payments in breach of our amateur-status ethos."

https://www.gaa.ie/news/payment-managers-strike-the-heart-gaa-ethos/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2020, 08:51:14 PM
Previous statement still relevant.

Not every club can get managers from their own. Are they cheats because they pay someone?

There's a bit of an irony to the organisation that has pumped so much money into one county thus making them so dominant that the game is getting ruined calling people who pay money to managers cheats.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 30, 2020, 09:02:49 PM
Some interesting recent posts. IMO it's not cheating like ineligible players but paying for managers is against our ethos and this is therefore not a level playing field. Somewhat akin to the advantage that Dublin enjoyed and I consider this 'cheating'. St Endas aren't the only club in Belfast to do this but Ardoyne are now upping the ante with the cost of managers. This is sure to be a drain on club resources and city clubs would not be as wealthy as SW judging by the figures quoted on this board last year.
I don't get the Belfast musical chairs reference as players from clubs across the county have jumped ship for glory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2020, 09:16:18 PM
There are figures quoted in various sections of this message board with regard to paid managers which are most likely very exaggerated at best.

Also wrt Carr one post here said that he was doing it for free then the next one suddenly he is getting a fortune. Who do you believe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
 ;D

It is a strange one but who the feck knows anything about whether he's doing it for loads, nothing or whatever. I don't know his management history. Does he have much? Why pay a fortune if he doesn't?

The paid manager stuff ends up with a load of internet speculation which no one knows for sure and then it's said that much that crazy figures which are highly unlikely to be being paid seem to be taken as fact,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2020, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2020, 07:47:17 PM
Yes agree those are both cheating - what's your point lads?

My own club pays a manager. We simply can't get somebody within the club willing to take the senior set up on. We advertised internally at the end of September and not a sinner came forward so we went outside to see who was there and we got a man in. He's asked for club tracksuits etc and a few quid a week for diesel.

I wouldn't consider that cheating. Playing lads under false names etc is cheating. Tapping up players from other clubs, also cheating in my book.

Personally I'm not keen on paying lads massive coin to come and take teams, try to develop your own first and see what happens, but each club is different. Nobody knows what goes in each club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 31, 2020, 07:34:27 AM
I wont be long before the Revenue will get involved in this, long overdue imo !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: cfclg on January 31, 2020, 08:46:49 AM
I used to take a very strong 'nobody should be paid to manage/coach teams' approach but the reality is that a very large proportion of clubs are paying a coach or manager or both!

Unfortunately in modern society volunteers are becoming fewer and fewer. People enjoy the little free time they have in a week to do their own thing/spend time with family etc. The pace of the modern world has changed and we don't have the luxury of a large pool of volunteers anymore. It doesn't mean I agree with it, its just the way it is in 2020. I can't see this trend changing anytime soon.

Teams are also becoming more demanding in this 'elite' culture we have within the GAA. You have Junior clubs (my own club included) now wanting a full time strength and conditioning coach . Not everyone has those capabilities in house so you have to go out and get/pay someone.

Changed times. I feel old. I am old  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2020, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 31, 2020, 07:34:27 AM
I wont be long before the Revenue will get involved in this, long overdue imo !!

?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 31, 2020, 09:01:18 AM
You can throw all the money you want at a paid manager but without the proper underage development structures and efforts of volunteers within the club, it will never be sustainable.

I have no issue with managers being paid, but it is no substitute for the hard yards put in by the countless volunteers behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 31, 2020, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 31, 2020, 09:01:18 AM
You can throw all the money you want at a paid manager but without the proper underage development structures and efforts of volunteers within the club, it will never be sustainable.

I have no issue with managers being paid, but it is no substitute for the hard yards put in by the countless volunteers behind the scenes.

Exactly! totally agree.

put your money into the facilities, equipment and promoting/educating your own vols. they are the life blood of a club and need the investment, not some manager who might stay for a few seasons and leave.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 30, 2020, 09:02:49 PM
Some interesting recent posts. IMO it's not cheating like ineligible players but paying for managers is against our ethos and this is therefore not a level playing field. Somewhat akin to the advantage that Dublin enjoyed and I consider this 'cheating'. St Endas aren't the only club in Belfast to do this but Ardoyne are now upping the ante with the cost of managers. This is sure to be a drain on club resources and city clubs would not be as wealthy as SW judging by the figures quoted on this board last year.
I don't get the Belfast musical chairs reference as players from clubs across the county have jumped ship for glory.

Refs get paid, county secretaries get paid, umpteen coaches get paid in every county re schools etc, how many empolyees are there in the ulster council?...a lot, how many paid coaches are there in the ulster council...a lot. I haven't even got the length of Croke Park. Give my head peace, the hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2020, 09:31:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 31, 2020, 09:01:18 AM
You can throw all the money you want at a paid manager but without the proper underage development structures and efforts of volunteers within the club, it will never be sustainable.

I have no issue with managers being paid, but it is no substitute for the hard yards put in by the countless volunteers behind the scenes.

Same volunteers, I wouldn't be saying there is countless, getting people to join the committee and applying for managing juveniles and senior teams has always been a difficult task, plenty of the over the fence managers or barstool managers about. I most clubs its the same ones year on year doing the hard work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 31, 2020, 10:25:21 AM
does the rules outline specifically that managerial appointments are not to receive any funding? If so where do you draw the line when it comes to clubs paying trainers, strength and conditioning coaches/programmes, nutritionists, running coaches, pilates etc. etc....  majority of football, hurling and camogie clubs pay at least one/two of those mentioned.

Cannot regulate where money circulates within the GAA as club Volunteers with the time they have/ coaching training they have received are only able to contribute so much to a team. Any team that wants to improve will pay for expertise better than what they have at hand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 31, 2020, 10:29:59 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 30, 2020, 09:02:49 PM
Some interesting recent posts. IMO it's not cheating like ineligible players but paying for managers is against our ethos and this is therefore not a level playing field. Somewhat akin to the advantage that Dublin enjoyed and I consider this 'cheating'. St Endas aren't the only club in Belfast to do this but Ardoyne are now upping the ante with the cost of managers. This is sure to be a drain on club resources and city clubs would not be as wealthy as SW judging by the figures quoted on this board last year.
I don't get the Belfast musical chairs reference as players from clubs across the county have jumped ship for glory.

Refs get paid, county secretaries get paid, umpteen coaches get paid in every county re schools etc, how many empolyees are there in the ulster council?...a lot, how many paid coaches are there in the ulster council...a lot. I haven't even got the length of Croke Park. Give my head peace, the hypocrisy.
DK, if you are OK with paying managers then you have got this all wrong IMO.
I raise money for my club which has limited financial resources to buy equipment, rigs and maintain facilities and also has some historic debt.
Refs, ulster gaa coaches, Co secretaries etc are not paid by me but by central GAA funds.
Clubs paying for managers is not endorsed by the GAA and as these types of payments hinder my club I'm dead against it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:24:54 PM
Its straightforward for me
2 teams are level in terms of commitment & Talent - one has money and the other hasn't - one buys in a coach and give themselves the advantage - is this not chequebook success?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:24:54 PM
Its straightforward for me
2 teams are level in terms of commitment & Talent - one has money and the other hasn't - one buys in a coach and give themselves the advantage - is this not chequebook success?

one county with a big city gets minimal funding for coaches(or GPO's as they are called in Dublin) from Croke Park, whilst anotherwitha big city i.e. Dublin gets millions, is this not chequebook success.

The irony, the hypocrisy. are you a member of the said association?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:24:54 PM
Its straightforward for me
2 teams are level in terms of commitment & Talent - one has money and the other hasn't - one buys in a coach and give themselves the advantage - is this not chequebook success?

one county with a big city gets minimal funding for coaches(or GPO's as they are called in Dublin) from Croke Park, whilst anotherwitha big city i.e. Dublin gets millions, is this not chequebook success.

The irony, the hypocrisy. are you a member of the said association?
I agree with you completely! - Dublin's success is chequebook success - no level playing field at county level at all and dont want that for club game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 02:00:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:24:54 PM
Its straightforward for me
2 teams are level in terms of commitment & Talent - one has money and the other hasn't - one buys in a coach and give themselves the advantage - is this not chequebook success?

one county with a big city gets minimal funding for coaches(or GPO's as they are called in Dublin) from Croke Park, whilst anotherwitha big city i.e. Dublin gets millions, is this not chequebook success.

The irony, the hypocrisy. are you a member of the said association?
I agree with you completely! - Dublin's success is chequebook success - no level playing field at county level at all and dont want that for club game

Where have you been living, this has been happening for the past 25 yrs. Are you only realising that practically every club worth their salt have outside managers with the best being at the top clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2020, 02:00:17 PM
Clubs will do what's best for themselves in any given situation. Yes sure payment is against the "ethos" of the association - but that is an organisation whose HQ pays itself well, and is not in a great position to pontificate to others about the volunteer or amateur ethos.

That's a throw back sentiment to the days hardly anyone from the top down got remunerated. The association itself went from dedicated volunteers running our games ( I instantly thank of selfless men like Gerry Barry RIP) to semi professional and now employs many full time professionals not only at national level but provincial and county too.

Should they be dictating to ambitious clubs how to prepare their teams and have a view on their financial implications. They know this cannot be policed and as it's a battle they will not win  it's no great surprise that the matter has never been properly raised at convention level, despite the fact that this subject is a very large elephant in the room, no one at HQ level wants to see it or address it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 31, 2020, 02:02:45 PM
lets be realistic also. dublins money may have contributed to their success yes, but the population of dublin is 3/4 times that of belfast. within that quantity, theres a higher amount of people play GAA considering Antrim is 55% unionist. Within Antrims Nationalist communities (who are more prone to participating in GAA) what percentage of them are participating within a club. Significantly lower i would imagine than Dublins.

I would presume ratio per head that are GAA club members would be alot higher in rural areas than it would be belfast. So lets just add a bit of context. Unless there is a drive to improve participation, levels of coaching, refereeing and all related, money will only take us so far.

Plus with Antrim Boards track record i dont blame Head quarters for being reluctant to throw money our way. For years the werent accountable to anybody. Glad to see we are moving on

Antrim were 7th on the list of money allocated and are in Div 4 still. Have a look below


https://twitter.com/SeanMcGoldrick1/status/1093268753725431808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1093268753725431808&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fsport%2Fgaa%2F2019%2F0614%2F1055359-dublin-funding%2F
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 02:18:21 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 02:00:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 31, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 01:24:54 PM
Its straightforward for me
2 teams are level in terms of commitment & Talent - one has money and the other hasn't - one buys in a coach and give themselves the advantage - is this not chequebook success?

one county with a big city gets minimal funding for coaches(or GPO's as they are called in Dublin) from Croke Park, whilst anotherwitha big city i.e. Dublin gets millions, is this not chequebook success.

The irony, the hypocrisy. are you a member of the said association?
I agree with you completely! - Dublin's success is chequebook success - no level playing field at county level at all and dont want that for club game

Where have you been living, this has been happening for the past 25 yrs. Are you only realising that practically every club worth their salt have outside managers with the best being at the top clubs.
Did Naomh Gall not winning all their 13 championships and All-Ireland title with their own voluntary managers? Micky Culbert, Lenny etc - surely a club worth its salt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 02:41:39 PM
If your club paid their senior manager would you walk away from them? (Circumstances seem to be irrelevant so should not be considered in your answer...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 02:41:39 PM
If your club paid their senior manager would you walk away from them? (Circumstances seem to be irrelevant so should not be considered in your answer...)
Strongly object and then keep working for the club - one club man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2020, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 02:41:39 PM
If your club paid their senior manager would you walk away from them? (Circumstances seem to be irrelevant so should not be considered in your answer...)
Strongly object and then keep working for the club - one club man

Do they pay outside strength and conditioning coaches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 02:41:39 PM
If your club paid their senior manager would you walk away from them? (Circumstances seem to be irrelevant so should not be considered in your answer...)
Strongly object and then keep working for the club - one club man

Then they'd be cheating though...

You can walk away without moving club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2020, 07:42:32 PM
We have always had bother beating Sligo, in fact they have had the upper hand on us in recent years. Hopefully we can reverse that trend on Sunday and go top or joint top of the division. This fixture was always going to be difficult especially at a ground we have struggled to get anything out of...but I'm optimistic we can get a foothold in the game early and settle any nerves. If we get a good start our fitness levels should see us through. Good luck to all involved, four points out of four was the big start we hoped for, let's make that happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 31, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 02:41:39 PM
If your club paid their senior manager would you walk away from them? (Circumstances seem to be irrelevant so should not be considered in your answer...)
Strongly object and then keep working for the club - one club man

Then they'd be cheating though...

You can walk away without moving club.
My club doesn't have surplus cash washing about to pay the mercenaries so I've no worry on that front
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2020, 08:23:07 PM
I suspect the sums talked about have quite a bit of poetic license in them so it might not take as much as you think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2020, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: Peter john on January 31, 2020, 08:29:45 PM
Minor football on the same day as senior and Res,minor hurling also starting the 19th April same day as hurling leagues for Sen /Res start,a real brainwave there  ::)

Minors playing minor, reserves playing reserve, and seniors playing senior, no team should be reliant on  either team and should have a panel to cover. Otherwise don't enter a team. That's the problem actually.

As a senior manager I've done that and pushed the boat out and luckily managed to (most times) get it right.

The question is whether we have enough referees  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2020, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: Peter john on January 31, 2020, 08:29:45 PM
Minor football on the same day as senior and Res,minor hurling also starting the 19th April same day as hurling leagues for Sen /Res start,a real brainwave there  ::)

Minors playing minor, reserves playing reserve, and seniors playing senior, no team should be reliant on  either team and should have a panel to cover. Otherwise don't enter a team. That's the problem actually.

As a senior manager I've done that and pushed the boat out and luckily managed to (most times) get it right.

The question is whether we have enough referees  ;)

Yeah but you have a big player base. Not all clubs do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2020, 09:57:32 AM
Quote from: Peter john on February 01, 2020, 08:58:43 AM
MR,surely there'll be teams in both codes(FB 2/3_H2/3/4)that will depend on their last yr minors to field,Sen/Res teams,and what you are basically saying as a county is,no adult football or hurling for a last year minor,in what people are talking about the age group between 19-21 is the hardest group to retain numbers,now lads at 18 will just drift away too,just my opinion

I know what you're saying but, you've got to as a club look at your numbers before planning things, it's unfair to the players also to be asked to play too many games and the fact that minors who have a whole year of playing games at their level could be stopping the development of that age group you talk about, 19-20 year olds.. there are arguments for both definitely and the smaller sized clubs that do  need those young lads will feel it the most.

We'll probably end up doing reserve and senior games this season  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardtole on February 01, 2020, 11:25:40 AM
I'm from a relatively small junior club, intermediate for spells too and I would doubt if our senior team have ever fielded without at least one minor player. At times id say we have fielded 3 or more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2020, 01:30:51 PM
Cahir O Kane predicts Sligo by two points in his match preview Thinks that Sligo will have the stronger bench! As if he has one notion about the Sligo bench...but I suppose that fits his pre competition prediction that Antrim will not gain promotion this year. I said before and I say it again, the man knows nothing about Antrim football. How does he get the remit to write about us. Go on 2moro lads....I want to see this particular Derry hack eat a large slice of humble pie until he learns to treat us with a bit more respect.

Antrim by 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2020, 03:56:56 PM
Wexford 2 -10 Carlow 1 - 06 result. Our victory last week not too shabby by the look of things!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2020, 08:21:23 PM
Yes . Good luck to Lenny and the team tomorrow. If they work as hard as last Sunday they won't be far away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2020, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2020, 08:21:23 PM
Yes . Good luck to Lenny and the team tomorrow. If they work as hard as last Sunday they won't be far away

But what if Antrim are paying for his petrol? Would you be supportive?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 01, 2020, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 01, 2020, 01:30:51 PM
Cahir O Kane predicts Sligo by two points in his match preview Thinks that Sligo will have the stronger bench! As if he has one notion about the Sligo bench...but I suppose that fits his pre competition prediction that Antrim will not gain promotion this year. I said before and I say it again, the man knows nothing about Antrim football. How does he get the remit to write about us. Go on 2moro lads....I want to see this particular Derry hack eat a large slice of humble pie until he learns to treat us with a bit more respect.

Antrim by 4.

Yeah why doesent a perennial Div4 team get more respect, it's a mystery
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2020, 09:43:09 PM
I'm hoping in 6 weeks you can drop the "perennial" jibe. In fact I'm confident of it! Take it you're not heading down tomorrow yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on February 02, 2020, 07:41:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 01, 2020, 09:43:09 PM
I'm hoping in 6 weeks you can drop the "perennial" jibe. In fact I'm confident of it! Take it you're not heading down tomorrow yourself?

You never learn🙈
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 02, 2020, 07:48:40 PM
What was performance like BS ? Seemed to be close whole wAy through...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
Just in the door and sick as a dog. It was close from start to finish, a real dogfight - the type of one you hate to lose. Sligo were a bit better than I had thought, a young fast hungry team, in your face all over the pitch. Midway through the first half, when we were a point up we missed an absolute sitter for a goal. That might have settled us, but only might. Oran Eastwood scored a beauty but shaved the outside of the post for an equaliser with 2 minutes left. Small margins that Cahir must have a crystal ball to see, because their wasnt a kick of the ball between the two teams all day. Those misses usually balance themselves out but Sligo were more economical in their wastage. A very frustrating day for all concerned! It means our next two against London away and Carlow at home are must wins in order to get back in the race.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on February 02, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
I'm sure you'll feel much better after a nice cup of tea and a large slice of that humble pie you'd intended for Mr O'Kane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2020, 08:54:51 PM
Did the sin bin make a difference today? I noticed we were level then 3 down during that period?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2020, 08:58:55 PM
I'll have a slice of that if we dont get promoted Earnesto. Cahir predicted we wouldnt, then devalued our victory against Wexford by saying he wasnt sure we beat much. (Wexford won their next game by 7 points). Maybe Cahir can be a bit more generous of spirit towards the county that hes writing about and you'll find I will meet him halfway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2020, 09:03:49 PM
There is no doubt that was a factor MR2. It made our job much more difficult. The player himself will know that, theres no point in hanging him out here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2020, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 02, 2020, 09:03:49 PM
There is no doubt that was a factor MR2. It made our job much more difficult. The player himself will know that, theres no point in hanging him out here.

Look these things happen in games, that's the whole point of the black card, I wouldn't have been the nicest defender,  so dragging a player down or tripping a player would have made me see a few.

Obviously there is a big push on how we speak to refs, it was part of our in house training and the refs were told to use it (black card) more often!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
A few of our players had a go at the ref after the match... thinking there was another minute or two to be played. He had said something to Paddy Cunningham just before Paddy sent the ball over the bar to put one between them. Sounds like the ref changed his mind because Antrim players were not a bit happy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 03, 2020, 06:56:39 AM
Young Loughran left at home yesterday Bannside, the cub is one of the best young talents we have and good for a couple of points and assists as he has proved in the limited game time lenny has given him.. bad call, game like that made for his ability,it seems the Lamhs are dominating or should I say dictating maybe the squad! Should have been 2 out of 2 yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2020, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 03, 2020, 06:56:39 AM
Young Loughran left at home yesterday Bannside, the cub is one of the best young talents we have and good for a couple of points and assists as he has proved in the limited game time lenny has given him.. bad call, game like that made for his ability,it seems the Lamhs are dominating or should I say dictating maybe the squad! Should have been 2 out of 2 yesterday.

Are you basing this on the one game you've watched this year? Or from what you have seen from the training sessions you've attended maybe even the challenge games possibly? Or is it your own assumption that he should have played him? I'm basically getting had Loughran been playing we would have won? Those other claims are daft BTW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 03, 2020, 11:13:45 AM
BS im not  big fan of Cahair O'Kane and his views on antrim football, though when he calls it you have to give hime credit. Again love your optimism but our county have always struggled on the road. When ever we take one or two steps forward we always seem to take one back. By your own analyses Wexford game was the test of this current squad, with that convincing win we would have assumed Sligo away would be tight but we had capabilities to get us over the line. i myself wasnt at the game on sunday though i followed the match report and going by Lennys squads as last couple of years i cant see us in games when we are chasing, having the capacity  to get ourselves back in front of teams and sustaining it. If we start well we are usually good on the counter and are hard to break down. but chasing the game doesnt suit this squad of boys. Plenty of pace, determination and nice footballers but i think we are missing Fitzy and Tomas, or a character like Michaeal McCann or Aidso who could of dictated the play round the middle.

Sometimes i wonder with the age profile /All round calibre of this squad would another year or 2 in div4 be the worst thing. Especially when you see Derry and some of the teams in Div 3 who in my opinion have more established squads, and arent doing so well.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 03, 2020, 11:48:31 AM
Good points RM, those four would be a huge help to any team. Smiley and Marc Jordan are in the middle grafting away, giving their all, but probably not first choice county midfielders in the traditional sense. Both are footballers and it's difficult to do the donkey work and and the sublime footballer all at the same time.

Whatwillbe, for what it's worth I'm a big fan of Adam. He would be getting game time if I had any say, but those are Lennys calls. MR2 that's based on seeing him 6 or 8 times, especially when he was the best player on the field in Creggan when St Galls played Aghagallon in the c'ship. Plus....talking to a few Portglenone lads on the under 20 panel say hes standout. That's good enough for me in some combo with PC Conor M Ruairi Mc Bride etc.

I like his style of play. A playmaker with the head up, a clever player who creates space and brings others into the game, not greedy nor all about him. Good feet for scoring. But Lenny obviously hasnt seen what I see and it's his opinion that matters. I would like to see more pace in the forward line, Tomas, Adam and Conor Small do that but it's unlikely we will see them play together in the right formation as there wont be many marks made inside.....but then again there were very few yesterday that I recall.

Cahir got his prediction right yesterday RM so yes credit to him for that. Sligo were a bit better than I thought, we were 20% down performance wise on last week, the two factors meaning we lost by a point, but if Mc Bride had tapped in from two yards midway through the first half (look it happens) we would be having a different conversation! That's the margins we are talking about.

Hopefully we get four points from our next two and that's us back in the mix.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 03, 2020, 12:26:16 PM
I wasn't there yesterday, so fair play to Bannside and anyone else who made the journey. Its been a while since I was at an away league game, Wicklow in fact, when we last got promotion.

I listened to the Ocean FM commentary - love those unashamedly one sided commentaries and fair play to Ocean FM - and I thought that it was sounding like we were in for a draw which would have been fine by me. This isn't a disaster though, a win in London looks entirely within reach and then its all attention on the home game v Carlow, which becomes a must win. If we end up with 6 points after 4 games promotion will be in our own hands.

Heads up all round, and it is important too that a decent crowd turn up late Feb for the Carlow game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on February 03, 2020, 10:54:55 PM
Apologies if already discussed (but only trawled back a few pages) when do the league fixtures come out?

And seeing chat about Minor, Senior Reserve and Senior all on the one day.  Interesting alright.

Always liked Senior Reserve games played ahead of Senior games but personally I think to then add the Minor games is lunacy.

Getting into massive crossover of players in a lot of cases I would have thought and requires a lot of referees. I assume lads will be out officiating more than one game while players will be getting the miles into the legs too.

But this obviously has not been arrived at without thought and reason. Can anyone enlighten me as to the benefits to be had here.  Certainly might get some lads out of their beds ona Sunday. But beyond that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 04, 2020, 07:02:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2020, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 03, 2020, 06:56:39 AM
Young Loughran left at home yesterday Bannside, the cub is one of the best young talents we have and good for a couple of points and assists as he has proved in the limited game time lenny has given him.. bad call, game like that made for his ability,it seems the Lamhs are dominating or should I say dictating maybe the squad! Should have been 2 out of 2 yesterday.

Are you basing this on the one game you've watched this year? Or from what you have seen from the training sessions you've attended maybe even the challenge games possibly? Or is it your own assumption that he should have played him? I'm basically getting had Loughran been playing we would have won? Those other claims are daft BTW

Come on MR2 catch a grip, I've watched this cub for a number of years from his Mc Crory/Hogan Cup performances to club and county so maybe I would have an edge over you on that one? It would be my opinion had he been there and given 20 minutes or more he would have made a significant impact as he tends to do when used, as to the other claims let wait and see, hopefully my sentiments are proved totally incorrect. Cheers Bannside glad you agree ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 04, 2020, 07:07:08 AM
He's only out of minor so it's a bit much to expect him to be changing how games go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 04, 2020, 09:29:50 AM
Quote from: Hectic on February 03, 2020, 10:54:55 PM
Apologies if already discussed (but only trawled back a few pages) when do the league fixtures come out?

And seeing chat about Minor, Senior Reserve and Senior all on the one day.  Interesting alright.

Always liked Senior Reserve games played ahead of Senior games but personally I think to then add the Minor games is lunacy.

Getting into massive crossover of players in a lot of cases I would have thought and requires a lot of referees. I assume lads will be out officiating more than one game while players will be getting the miles into the legs too.

But this obviously has not been arrived at without thought and reason. Can anyone enlighten me as to the benefits to be had here.  Certainly might get some lads out of their beds ona Sunday. But beyond that?

apparently they were sent out last night to the club secretary's. havent heard them yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2020, 08:28:35 PM
Laochra lao vs Eire og Antrim division three match just on tg4 there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

Tells it's own tale I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

Tells it's own tale I suppose.

Swings and roundabouts really, I can remember our club had 3 senior teams playing all county and two senior hurling teams playing all county, plus our divisional teams.

You'll probably find in most cases the club can't find anyone to commit to looking after the team, he's the guy that actually gets the lads out, the players are there, just lost interest and need to be brought back!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 04, 2020, 10:03:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

What teams have entered?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 04, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 04, 2020, 10:03:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

What teams have entered?

St Paul's/ st galls/ st brigids/ GnaM/ ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 05, 2020, 09:48:51 AM
i think from my own experience there would be more of an appetite to play reserves if the leagues were structured back the way they were. there are many good players within some of the bigger clubs who could play against div 2/3 teams. i remember St.Galls, Cargin and johnnies reserves playing the likes of ahoghill, st.treseas and st.brigids seniors in Div 3. Theres no incentive for div 1 reserve players to go and train to play before a senior game against an opposition reserve team with 13 men or a team who have pulled men out of retirement to fulfill a fixture. Which has happened. Not good for antrim football and doesnt give young lads a stepping stone to play senior football. Credit to the likes of Portglenone who have been successful at fielding two really strong senior and reserve teams when alot of the bigger clubs have failed to get keep players on board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2020, 11:57:23 AM
it seems to be a problem now for a lot of years and is affecting both codes.

I rem playing reserve football when i was just out of minor when we were a Div 1 team and there was a load of fixtures to be played (quite some time ago). We dont have a reserve team now due to a lack of numbers sadly and a decline in football in general in the club which has been turned around a bit.

This season we have 2 U12 hurling teams and 2 U14 hurling teams competing in A & B leagues but just the one in each code for football. there isn't the desire for the football in the same vain as hurling within the club.

Ive always put it down to the fact that football just isn't as good a game as hurling is for the kids. they prefer to play hurling over football and that continues right up to adult level as well. If your not a dual club well then you wont have that sway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 05, 2020, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

Tells it's own tale I suppose.

Swings and roundabouts really, I can remember our club had 3 senior teams playing all county and two senior hurling teams playing all county, plus our divisional teams.

You'll probably find in most cases the club can't find anyone to commit to looking after the team, he's the guy that actually gets the lads out, the players are there, just lost interest and need to be brought back!
I have a suggestion. Why don't we just agree to pay the reserve team managers - seems to be OK for senior teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 05, 2020, 04:17:43 PM
Agree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 05, 2020, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 04, 2020, 10:03:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

What teams have entered?

St Paul's/ st galls/ st brigids/ GnaM/ ....
I think Belfast clubs are putting their 2nd teams into the South antrim league to save on traveling - don't think there is same set up in SW?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2020, 06:35:40 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 05, 2020, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 04, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2020, 07:10:24 AM
Have city teams not entered reserve teams in the ACFL?

4 belfast clubs out of 10 in Reserve Div 1
0 Belfast clubs out  7 in reserve div 2

Tells it's own tale I suppose.

Swings and roundabouts really, I can remember our club had 3 senior teams playing all county and two senior hurling teams playing all county, plus our divisional teams.

You'll probably find in most cases the club can't find anyone to commit to looking after the team, he's the guy that actually gets the lads out, the players are there, just lost interest and need to be brought back!
I have a suggestion. Why don't we just agree to pay the reserve team managers - seems to be OK for senior teams

You might just get the nod then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 05, 2020, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 05, 2020, 09:48:51 AM
i think from my own experience there would be more of an appetite to play reserves if the leagues were structured back the way they were. there are many good players within some of the bigger clubs who could play against div 2/3 teams. i remember St.Galls, Cargin and johnnies reserves playing the likes of ahoghill, st.treseas and st.brigids seniors in Div 3. Theres no incentive for div 1 reserve players to go and train to play before a senior game against an opposition reserve team with 13 men or a team who have pulled men out of retirement to fulfill a fixture. Which has happened. Not good for antrim football and doesnt give young lads a stepping stone to play senior football. Credit to the likes of Portglenone who have been successful at fielding two really strong senior and reserve teams when alot of the bigger clubs have failed to get keep players on board.

No incentive to train div 1 and then play reserve v a gather up and line some 50 year old who looks like hes 5 mins from having a heart attack. 1 week your own reserve team could be decent and the next a gather up. Its shit and falling apart, mad the Johnnies have no team now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2020, 10:34:15 PM
There are some 50 year olds who lined out last season and are a few years off a heart attack yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2020, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2020, 10:34:15 PM
There are some 50 year olds who lined out last season and are a few years off a heart attack yet!

I'm 48, lined out in a few games last year! Age is only a number  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2020, 11:06:54 PM
Same here. Except for the 48 bit  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2020, 11:23:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2020, 11:06:54 PM
Same here. Except for the 48 bit  :)

Good on ya!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2020, 07:39:35 AM
Big derby in the club c'ship bs.

Not sure too many standout fixtures early on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
LD and St.Endas looks tasty enough fixture. Think St. Endas can cause most teams trouble if they commit this year and dont loose any players. Especially if they taken for granted.

Portglenone V Ahogill... i think local derby in championship could be tighter than expected though i feel whoever comes through that wont get past Creggan. Creggan need a big year this year to prove they werent a one hit wonder 2 years ago as they were awful last year with their championship display


If Aghagallon get past GNM and set up a replay with St.Galls i suspect they would fancy themselves in that game. Unfortunately teams no longer fear what was once a great Galls team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
LD and St.Endas looks tasty enough fixture. Think St. Endas can cause most teams trouble if they commit this year and dont loose any players. Especially if they taken for granted.

Portglenone V Ahogill... i think local derby in championship could be tighter than expected though i feel whoever comes through that wont get past Creggan. Creggan need a big year this year to prove they werent a one hit wonder 2 years ago as they were awful last year with their championship display


If Aghagallon get past GNM and set up a replay with St.Galls i suspect they would fancy themselves in that game. Unfortunately teams no longer fear what was once a great Galls team

If Aghagallon (should they beat Gorts) beat us then they will have improved greatly from last year, good championship draw, no big hitters out early I suspect, If Lamhs get turned over by St Enda's that would be a major surprise considering they have been contending championships for a the last few years, having won one also in that period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
MR2 agree that would be a big shock if Endas were to dump  LD out but they have 5 county senior players and a decent squad. That to me wouldnt be unthinkable.

Regarding Aghagallon i thought last year in Creggan they were capbale of beating St.Galls though very naive towards the end. They also have 3 or 4 county men now and i expect them to kick on. Again would be an upset but Antrim Championships probably as open as its ever been
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 06, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs St Enda's the standout fixture.

LD will be deserved favourites but I agree that there is a lot of potential in that St Endas team and they will not be easy beat.

Portglenone and Ahoghill is another interesting one but the rest should be straight forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
MR2 agree that would be a big shock if Endas were to dump  LD out but they have 5 county senior players and a decent squad. That to me wouldnt be unthinkable.

Regarding Aghagallon i thought last year in Creggan they were capbale of beating St.Galls though very naive towards the end. They also have 3 or 4 county men now and i expect them to kick on. Again would be an upset but Antrim Championships probably as open as its ever been

How many current county players on the Antrim team from Cargin? Is it important to have county players to be competitive? and on that reasoning Cargin shouldn't be competing at all ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 06, 2020, 10:57:04 AM
the average age of the Aghagallon team that started against St. Galls was something like 20 years and 8 months! The team is even younger this year again so it'll be a while yet before they'll be competing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 11:01:57 AM
The difference with Cargin is almost all that team has started in Senior, U21 or Minor county teams right up through. Though the longer they go without having men playing at County level i suspect alot of teams will catch up with them as we have seen in recent years. Same with St.Galls, at a time your starting 15 had all played Senior County whether that be for Antrim, Fermanagh, Cavan or other. You cant tell me having county men is a bad thing within a squad. Especially when antrim are out so early, they tend to get back to their clubs in good time and in decent shape
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 06, 2020, 12:43:22 PM
is there anywhere to see the draw for the U16, minor and U21? they havent posted it up online still from last nights draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 11:01:57 AM
The difference with Cargin is almost all that team has started in Senior, U21 or Minor county teams right up through. Though the longer they go without having men playing at County level i suspect alot of teams will catch up with them as we have seen in recent years. Same with St.Galls, at a time your starting 15 had all played Senior County whether that be for Antrim, Fermanagh, Cavan or other. You cant tell me having county men is a bad thing within a squad. Especially when antrim are out so early, they tend to get back to their clubs in good time and in decent shape

Sure we never trained till after the county final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Yeah i heard that was true. Shows you how bad Antrim Championship was at a time when you guys were trying to peak for December.

Id say St.Galls may have started training after the last county final aswell ..... only this time in preperation for 2020 chsip.

;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 06, 2020, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 11:01:57 AM
The difference with Cargin is almost all that team has started in Senior, U21 or Minor county teams right up through. Though the longer they go without having men playing at County level i suspect alot of teams will catch up with them as we have seen in recent years. Same with St.Galls, at a time your starting 15 had all played Senior County whether that be for Antrim, Fermanagh, Cavan or other. You cant tell me having county men is a bad thing within a squad. Especially when antrim are out so early, they tend to get back to their clubs in good time and in decent shape
Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Yeah i heard that was true. Shows you how bad Antrim Championship was at a time when you guys were trying to peak for December.

Id say St.Galls may have started training after the last county final aswell ..... only this time in preperation for 2020 chsip.

;)

I'd say if Cargin used same tactic they might beat the Fermanagh champs, get past the first round  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 06, 2020, 06:38:00 PM
Two of the best were from Armagh. John Raff and Dr Gentleman Mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 06, 2020, 06:38:00 PM
Two of the best were from Armagh. John Raff and Dr Gentleman Mark.

John is a legend! Wonderful player and brilliant manager! And ferocious trainer both on himself during his playing days and coaching
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 07, 2020, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Yeah i heard that was true. Shows you how bad Antrim Championship was at a time when you guys were trying to peak for December.

Id say St.Galls may have started training after the last county final aswell ..... only this time in preperation for 2020 chsip.

;)

I'd say if Cargin used same tactic they might beat the Fermanagh champs, get past the first round  ;D

I would say YOU are right. Either that or they just havent the stones to win in ulster.

Or maybe it was the replay followed by the 20 additional minutes given injury time the week before at Corrigan. Apparently McCavanna was for throwing the leg over the fence as he done at the Dub to call an end to the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2020, 01:57:19 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 07, 2020, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Yeah i heard that was true. Shows you how bad Antrim Championship was at a time when you guys were trying to peak for December.

Id say St.Galls may have started training after the last county final aswell ..... only this time in preperation for 2020 chsip.

;)

I'd say if Cargin used same tactic they might beat the Fermanagh champs, get past the first round  ;D

I would say YOU are right. Either that or they just havent the stones to win in ulster.

Or maybe it was the replay followed by the 20 additional minutes given injury time the week before at Corrigan. Apparently McCavanna was for throwing the leg over the fence as he done at the Dub to call an end to the game.

Happy for the extra minutes in The first game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 04:29:32 PM
Massive congrats to Davitts today on the official Opening of their new place - they really had to be patient and thoroughly deserve their high quality new home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
100%. A club with a big heart, been playing both codes for years and kept the game going in a "tight" area during the tough days of the troubles. They can now look forward to being the hub of their large community and hopefully drive onwards and upwards to the top divisions in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2020, 04:48:38 PM
Looks like an excellent setup and apparently numbers very good underage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
100%. A club with a big heart, been playing both codes for years and kept the game going in a "tight" area during the tough days of the troubles. They can now look forward to being the hub of their large community and hopefully drive onwards and upwards to the top divisions in the not too distant future.
yeah McDermotts , Dwyers and clonard have all stopped fielding teams in the lower falls with no facilities a major issue. The Davitts have kept the GAA flag and deserve what they got
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2020, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
100%. A club with a big heart, been playing both codes for years and kept the game going in a "tight" area during the tough days of the troubles. They can now look forward to being the hub of their large community and hopefully drive onwards and upwards to the top divisions in the not too distant future.
yeah McDermotts , Dwyers and clonard have all stopped fielding teams in the lower falls with no facilities a major issue. The Davitts have kept the GAA flag and deserve what they got

Beechmount would be viewed as mid Falls, an area which never had a club, well not in over 40 odd years that I can remember, St Paul's parish would have been the St Paul's club we have now but obviously they are based on Shaws rd. the demise of those clubs haven't really benefited Davitts I don't think as from what I can see it's all Davitts past present players looking after things, they've always been involved with the local primary's also.

The success of Davitts will be bringing through the numbers they have to senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2020, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
100%. A club with a big heart, been playing both codes for years and kept the game going in a "tight" area during the tough days of the troubles. They can now look forward to being the hub of their large community and hopefully drive onwards and upwards to the top divisions in the not too distant future.
yeah McDermotts , Dwyers and clonard have all stopped fielding teams in the lower falls with no facilities a major issue. The Davitts have kept the GAA flag and deserve what they got

Beechmount would be viewed as mid Falls, an area which never had a club, well not in over 40 odd years that I can remember, St Paul's parish would have been the St Paul's club we have now but obviously they are based on Shaws rd. the demise of those clubs haven't really benefited Davitts I don't think as from what I can see it's all Davitts past present players looking after things, they've always been involved with the local primary's also.

The success of Davitts will be bringing through the numbers they have to senior.
sirely Davitts clubrooms is in lower whack MR2 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2020, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2020, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
100%. A club with a big heart, been playing both codes for years and kept the game going in a "tight" area during the tough days of the troubles. They can now look forward to being the hub of their large community and hopefully drive onwards and upwards to the top divisions in the not too distant future.
yeah McDermotts , Dwyers and clonard have all stopped fielding teams in the lower falls with no facilities a major issue. The Davitts have kept the GAA flag and deserve what they got

Beechmount would be viewed as mid Falls, an area which never had a club, well not in over 40 odd years that I can remember, St Paul's parish would have been the St Paul's club we have now but obviously they are based on Shaws rd. the demise of those clubs haven't really benefited Davitts I don't think as from what I can see it's all Davitts past present players looking after things, they've always been involved with the local primary's also.

The success of Davitts will be bringing through the numbers they have to senior.
sirely Davitts clubrooms is in lower whack MR2 ?
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The pub is  but the pitch is not, and stop calling me 'sirely'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2020, 02:52:18 PM
Half time and we are 0-9 to 0 -1 ahead in Ruislip,  but facing into a huge wind in the second half. Fingers crossed for a big second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2020, 03:22:58 PM
Come on lads we need another score. London four points on the bounce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2020, 03:33:11 PM
See it out now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2020, 03:38:28 PM
Job done. If we can beat Carlow in two weeks we are firmly back in the hunt. All to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2020, 05:37:59 PM
Carlow beat by limerick? Whole thing quite open but Carlow still a must win! Good to get another win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 09, 2020, 06:21:59 PM
Limerick are going to be tough to beat, especially away (think that is away?). But if we end the league with only one defeat we will go up. Head to head win over Wexford night come into play. Huge game coming up v Carlow at home. It appears they aren't the team they were two seasons ago, a repeat of performance against Wexford could see us home in Carlow game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2020, 06:38:20 PM
Next two are both at home. Carlow 2 weeks and Limerick in 3 weeks. Tomas Mc Cann not far away now and a good chance he will make a return in one of these matches. These are massive games hopefully home advantage can swing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 09, 2020, 08:05:17 PM
Well done everyone.  Would be great to see a promotion push, and would that mean a day in Croke Park?  I hope the games are played in Glenavy.  Great wee spot and friendly stewards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 11, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2020, 01:57:19 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 07, 2020, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Yeah i heard that was true. Shows you how bad Antrim Championship was at a time when you guys were trying to peak for December.

Id say St.Galls may have started training after the last county final aswell ..... only this time in preperation for 2020 chsip.

;)



I'd say if Cargin used same tactic they might beat the Fermanagh champs, get past the first round  ;D

I would say YOU are right. Either that or they just havent the stones to win in ulster.

Or maybe it was the replay followed by the 20 additional minutes given injury time the week before at Corrigan. Apparently McCavanna was for throwing the leg over the fence as he done at the Dub to call an end to the game.

Happy for the extra minutes in The first game?

As a spectator. No i nearly had a heart attack but got my moneys worth. Dont think anyone can argue with extra time or injury time, but 8minutes on top of what was added was mad. The ref wasnt even being subtle about what he was trying to do. God Bless him all the same, wouldnt want to be in the middle of trying to officiate that  with the amount of off the ball incidents and coaches encroaching the pitch every 2 minutes. you would need really good umpires/ Linesmen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 11, 2020, 09:54:07 AM
3 games in BS Who have been the best 3 or 4 players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 11, 2020, 10:40:58 AM
More importantly.... how did young loughran do BS? Did he live up to the hype? Also what was story with D.McAleese playing 3? Read he kicked 3 points? Have we another Brendan Rogers in our hands? Slaughtneil not Leicester
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
Harder question to answer than I thought! Against Wexford nearly everyone did their job well, but likewise against Sligo nearly everyone was average enough, no one stood out. I didn't make it to Ruislip but I was told it was nearly impossible to play good football, mostly real backs to the wall stuff. If you put me in a corner I'd say Paddy Gallagher and Big Ricky, with honourable mention to Paddy Cunningham for his vital scores from frees.

Dermot Mc Aleese chipped in with three important scores on Sunday and is a big addition to the starting 15, likewise Tomas is not far away and the icing on the cake for me in the forward line would be Adam Loughran. Those three should bring a lot more energy punch and scoring threat to our forward division. It's all in our own hands but I still believe we will be in Division 3 next year but we need to win our next two at home for that to happen.

RM, I don't expect to see Dermot at full back, just a jersey number and young Adam didn't see game time as it wasn't the type of game to suit him. His day will come.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2020, 09:05:31 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 11, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2020, 01:57:19 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 07, 2020, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2020, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 06, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
Yeah i heard that was true. Shows you how bad Antrim Championship was at a time when you guys were trying to peak for December.

Id say St.Galls may have started training after the last county final aswell ..... only this time in preperation for 2020 chsip.

;)



I'd say if Cargin used same tactic they might beat the Fermanagh champs, get past the first round  ;D

I would say YOU are right. Either that or they just havent the stones to win in ulster.

Or maybe it was the replay followed by the 20 additional minutes given injury time the week before at Corrigan. Apparently McCavanna was for throwing the leg over the fence as he done at the Dub to call an end to the game.

Happy for the extra minutes in The first game?

As a spectator. No i nearly had a heart attack but got my moneys worth. Dont think anyone can argue with extra time or injury time, but 8minutes on top of what was added was mad. The ref wasnt even being subtle about what he was trying to do. God Bless him all the same, wouldnt want to be in the middle of trying to officiate that  with the amount of off the ball incidents and coaches encroaching the pitch every 2 minutes. you would need really good umpires/ Linesmen
Was less than 8 I think and the players seemed to be well of the clock on the refs arm, the only one that matters I suppose, but hey whatever suits your opinion  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2020, 03:26:37 PM
I thought you meant Tomas there and was wondering where you'd been then realised it was Michael. Happy days. I didn't see that coming.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/51478119 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/51478119)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 12, 2020, 03:30:21 PM
Undoubtedly still talented enough, just hope the attitude is right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 12, 2020, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: Caesar on February 12, 2020, 03:30:21 PM
Undoubtedly still talented enough, just hope the attitude is right

Why wouldn't it be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 12, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 12, 2020, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: Caesar on February 12, 2020, 03:30:21 PM
Undoubtedly still talented enough, just hope the attitude is right

Why wouldn't it be?

My thoughts to, why wouldn't it be. One of the best we have produced, a leader for both county and club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 12, 2020, 09:09:05 PM
What about any of the St Galls old guard.
Surely some would be beneficial to younger lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 12, 2020, 10:29:33 PM
Fantastic news.

Hope they all stay on next year if we get promoted

Fantastic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
Squad now with 3 former stalwarts of Antrim and a guy who couldnt make the meath panel.

Great to see and Michael McCann would walk on to any county panel, but im a bit disillusioned regarding Lenny's original pitch when he was appointed which was about bringing through fresh blood and improving the young players our county have. To date i cant see anyone who Lenny has really improved or playing at a higher level than they were before or what was expected of them. Hence the move to turn to the old guard to improve his squad and squeeze out a bit of success so he may have some sort of legacy with Antrim as manager.

Not a personal attack on him as iv alot of respect of what he has achieved previously though regarding the current crop i havnt seen an awful lot of change. Though maybe playing with cooler more experienced heads may get more out of the younger men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2020, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
Squad now with 3 former stalwarts of Antrim and a guy who couldnt make the meath panel.

Great to see and Michael McCann would walk on to any county panel, but im a bit disillusioned regarding Lenny's original pitch when he was appointed which was about bringing through fresh blood and improving the young players our county have. To date i cant see anyone who Lenny has really improved or playing at a higher level than they were before or what was expected of them. Hence the move to turn to the old guard to improve his squad and squeeze out a bit of success so he may have some sort of legacy with Antrim as manager.

Not a personal attack on him as iv alot of respect of what he has achieved previously though regarding the current crop i havnt seen an awful lot of change. Though maybe playing with cooler more experienced heads may get more out of the younger men

Not a personal attack, your full of shit lad.. Id be disappointed in a manager that just stuck to the norm and didn't develop, but hey go and lambast someone for actually making an attempt to get promotion..

As for not developing younger lads or players that haven't been on a panel before, there are plenty of young new county players over the last few years, have they developed to the point that you think they should, maybe not, but we are a div 4 team and have been for many years, getting into div 3 the odd time but we are a yoyo team and even with all the best players we had, back in the day, we were not pulling up tress, bar the Ulster final, we've failed before it and after that glorious day in Clones sadly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 09:29:36 AM
Jesus MR2 scrutinising management isnt something that you should be taking so personal. It wasnt a personal attack, i think what iv outlined is something which the antrim board will obviously be thinking when they review the teams performance. I dare not say anything regarding refs or management if i think there is patches in their performance which could be scrutinised. Obviously i think he is doing right, bringin back paddy and the two cargin lads (as u seen i had mentioned it in previous posts), they will definitely bring us closer to a shot at promotion, but why sell the pitch that the job he took on was focused on bringing through youth and building antrim for the future regardless of results? I dont think Paddy, Mick or Tomas are there just for the ride or to sit on the bench. So obviously going back to the old guard will be at the expense of some of the other lads who are new to the panel or are young still.

My analyses is just that, like in this forum, its alright being optimistic but at some point you realise that youth requires experienced players/ leaders on the field to bring them on. Lennys first couple of years seriously lacked that. Now he has went back on his original stance and brought in men who he may of asked but hadnt really chased (as he has done this time from November) all for the greater good of the county promotion chase. Though to some of the younger lads on the panels expense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2020, 10:04:23 AM
He can't really win with you can he ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2020, 10:10:03 AM
I'd say that's fair comment RM, nothing in that that anyone should take exception to. Lenny came in looking at a five year plan and part of that was to go with the guys who put their hands up. Nothing wrong with that. However.....in Lennys defence, I know for a fact that behind the scenes strong overtures were put out to four or five experienced players, all who found a reason to decline. That's not something everyone is aware of.

Now in year three there is a serious push for promotion. The five year plan is on standby until the first target has been reached, the bottom line target of promotion to div 3. That's the only show in town right now, and Lenny is rightly throwing the kitchen sink at achieving this. The Tomas Paddy and Micks will see a good set up, much improved since the days when a manager was given a bag of balls and told to get on with it. (Ok ok I know that's a bit harsh). Problem is....all other counties have moved on too, and this hasn't made our prospects any easier just because we are getting our act together.

I can vouch for the fact that Lenny has put in serious work, good quality work too, all modern sports science, analysis, systems, etc. But the fact remains that we need all our best players out for any management team to succeed.

Paddy Mick and Tomas are welcomed back by all and sundry. They are proven and still capable of offering something meaningful, and at the end of the day if that helps get us out of the basement division then it will be seen as a good call all round. They mightnt all get ( or shouldn't expect) 70 minutes game time, but if these three collectively light the spark that gets us over the line then fair play to all concerned.

I know its early days, very early but IF we can get out this year, hopefully we can get the two Paddy Mcs back ( Mc Aleer and Mc Cormack) the two Fitzys (Pearse and Matt) and the two Murrays (Conor for another term and proven brother Ryan) then I've no doubt whatsoever we can be most competitive in Div 3.

It's all about Carlow and Limerick though. In two and a half weeks we will know if we are still on course, and as I say I think we will be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 10:52:10 AM
To be honest men i agree with what alot of whats said on here, i just offer a perspective from the other side of the coin, stuff that i dont feel is right. Like all managers no one should be outside of scrutiny. Thats part and parcel what they have signed up for. and to be honest what harm are we doing stating perspectives on this forum. Its not as if we are lambasting him at matches and trying to create unrest. Lennys 5 year plan hasnt went to plan for a number of reasons. i never once criticised his set up or his methods, i would say its more so to do with him placing all his chips on men within the panel who were just happy to be there or havnt had the quality he needed. As iv said in previous comments he needed pedigree and experience and he now he has went and got it. Which to be honest has contradicted what he had set out to do originally. The lads he was backing on to come through either havnt or have had other commitments. But if he turns the corner, gets promotion and actually BRINGS THROUGH 5 or 6 lads who he developed then il be the first to congratulate him.

BS are you referring to P.Fitzsimmons, as in midfield for Lamh Dearg? i dont recall him playing county or have i missed something. Have u seen much of him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
Carlow and Limerick was on TG4 (well highlights). Limerick were probably lucky enough but Carlow sometimes don't help themselves with discipline. The two Murphys are particularly indisciplined. One punched someone on the face as he was running with the ball then kicked off a stink when he got sent off. Limerick had a full forward on view who looks like he will take some watching.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2020, 12:27:13 PM
Definitely ITG Daniel someone ran riot against Cork in the Mc Grath cup final a month ago. Re Pearse Fitz, son of Frank, midfield for LD, has turned into a really good player in my book and picked up a nasty knee injury against us in the replayed match at the Dub. I'd be surprised if he wasn't on Lennys radar before the accident. As I say it's just in my book (and that's not the one that really matters lol) but I believe he would definitely be a positive addition. Obviously I'm taking the optimistic view that Matt Fitz can be enticed back again at some stage and that's not a given.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
yea i know him ws just wondering if he had been called up before as i hadnt heard. But yeah big lad, wonder if lennys thinking he needs a big lad like that round the middle as i think we will get penned in against a team that pushes up on our kick out. Then again thats maybe why Michaels back. Though i cant recall him in midfield as last couple of years. Be interesting to see what shape this team will take when every ones fit and who will lose out in a starting place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 13, 2020, 03:30:37 PM
Have Cargin not got any top players in their mid 20's ? I know they won minor but for county senior it only seems to be the 30+s that get a mention.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on February 13, 2020, 03:32:57 PM
With reference to M Fitz, we'd need a Keystone in Antrim ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 13, 2020, 03:30:37 PM
Have Cargin not got any top players in their mid 20's ? I know they won minor but for county senior it only seems to be the 30+s that get a mention.....

None than i could say thats better than whats up already
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 13, 2020, 03:48:00 PM
Anything I've heard Lenny say, his strategy is pretty simple.  Get promoted, player at a higher level which will improve the players decision making, and that will make us more competitive in the Championship.
Bringing Michael and Paddy C boosts our promotion chances.  They helped us get to Div 2 not too long ago.  Makes sense and they young lads can learn from them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2020, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on February 13, 2020, 09:29:36 AM
Jesus MR2 scrutinising management isnt something that you should be taking so personal. It wasnt a personal attack, i think what iv outlined is something which the antrim board will obviously be thinking when they review the teams performance. I dare not say anything regarding refs or management if i think there is patches in their performance which could be scrutinised. Obviously i think he is doing right, bringin back paddy and the two cargin lads (as u seen i had mentioned it in previous posts), they will definitely bring us closer to a shot at promotion, but why sell the pitch that the job he took on was focused on bringing through youth and building antrim for the future regardless of results? I dont think Paddy, Mick or Tomas are there just for the ride or to sit on the bench. So obviously going back to the old guard will be at the expense of some of the other lads who are new to the panel or are young still.

My analyses is just that, like in this forum, its alright being optimistic but at some point you realise that youth requires experienced players/ leaders on the field to bring them on. Lennys first couple of years seriously lacked that. Now he has went back on his original stance and brought in men who he may of asked but hadnt really chased (as he has done this time from November) all for the greater good of the county promotion chase. Though to some of the younger lads on the panels expense.

It's not personal tbf, BS is probably over the top positive and you can be sometimes over the top negative, it's a forum and debating is good, can be very constructive can be a bitta banter and for some having digs while sitting behind a screen is easy.

I've been very critical in the past about plenty things county and county committee level wise, my roles were different being a club senior manager, so from a selfish point I've said things (I've said it face to face also) that on reflection I should have bit my tongue.

Lenny is a clubman so maybe I'm slightly defensive there but we've underperformed as a full team, players managers for a long time. Until we develop consistently from juveniles through our schools and at club level we'll be yo-yo'ing.

Took a walk down to the college tonight, good squad down training away, hopefully win our next two games, no reasons left now that we can't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2020, 09:08:57 PM
RM one thing on your opinions though... You seemed to be saying that Cunningham and the McCann brothers weren't invited back and that was LH's strategy. Everyone else says that they weren't available / wouldn't play. 

Where did you get that from? If you are wrong there then you are forming an opinion on him going for youth then back tracking when he actually had no choice but now does... Whatever has caused the turnaround in players like this committing I don't know but long may it continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 13, 2020, 10:05:35 PM
On all known club form despite turning 35 in a few months Mick is still up there as one of the best in the county and on that basis it's good to have him. Hopefully he can still work his magic at inter county level, I don't think he got proper closure during his last sojourn and 2020 or 2021 might provide that. Michael has now got a great chance to use his influence to make a positive contribution in whatever way he can. It's not about him....its never about any individual....it's about what he can do to help us achieve our target this year in whatever capacity he is needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2020, 11:00:18 PM
Lenny knows best lads and Mick McCann wouldn't of put himself in this position if he thought that he couldn't bring something positive to the set up. Let's enjoy the rest of the season and it's ups and downs.

Saffs Abu.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 13, 2020, 11:17:56 PM
Especially the ups!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2020, 07:38:50 PM
Best of luck to the under 20s tomorrow against Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 14, 2020, 11:54:10 PM
Did that Derry side reach an All Ireland minor final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 15, 2020, 07:28:23 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 14, 2020, 11:54:10 PM
Did that Derry side reach an All Ireland minor final?
No it was last year's under 20 team   that got to the minor  final in 2017
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 15, 2020, 11:12:18 AM
Thanks.  I saw them in Croke Park.  They were a good team but I think they got mullered by David Clifford.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 15, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
Hadn't far to travel today for the championship game with Derry, game called off, I'm hearing from v good sources it was because Antrim hadn't lined the pitch, only flags put out, surface was fine. If this is true and I had no reason to doubt my source, like wtf is going on, seriously wtf???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 16, 2020, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 15, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
Hadn't far to travel today for the championship game with Derry, game called off, I'm hearing from v good sources it was because Antrim hadn't lined the pitch, only flags put out, surface was fine. If this is true and I had no reason to doubt my source, like wtf is going on, seriously wtf???

Maybe an oversight? 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 16, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
Wicklow three points up 5 mins left. Stay that way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 16, 2020, 02:40:55 PM
Wicklow won by 5. League wide open...though we have to go there in a month. No easy games in this division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2020, 03:06:31 PM
Wicklow a tough place to get a result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on February 17, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 15, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
Hadn't far to travel today for the championship game with Derry, game called off, I'm hearing from v good sources it was because Antrim hadn't lined the pitch, only flags put out, surface was fine. If this is true and I had no reason to doubt my source, like wtf is going on, seriously wtf???

I was told this as well from a ref. How embarrassing, if true surely Antrim shouldn't get playing in the rescheduled game. The pitch was playable on Saturday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on February 17, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Lads does anyone have the fixtures for Div 2 & 3? it is due to start in less than 2 weeks and the County website does not have them detailed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2020, 12:20:39 PM
Ardoyne v randalstown
Dunloy v st Theresa's
Ballymena v aldergrove
Moneyglass v st Paul's

Sunday march 1st
That's all I know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2020, 08:19:51 PM
Saffron Gael has just completed a trawl through all the club managements for the coming season. St Galls taking things seriously two lough shore men involved in a SIX man management team. Six men picking a team....that could be fun. Big Sean Fleming going to get plenty of advice too. Six at Rossa?as well!

Serious question though. Does anyone know exactly who is allowed inside the wire. Eg are all six allowed??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 17, 2020, 09:11:37 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on February 17, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 15, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
Hadn't far to travel today for the championship game with Derry, game called off, I'm hearing from v good sources it was because Antrim hadn't lined the pitch, only flags put out, surface was fine. If this is true and I had no reason to doubt my source, like wtf is going on, seriously wtf???

I was told this as well from a ref. How embarrassing, if true surely Antrim shouldn't get playing in the rescheduled game. The pitch was playable on Saturday
Lads, when was the last time any of you lined a pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 17, 2020, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 17, 2020, 09:11:37 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on February 17, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 15, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
Hadn't far to travel today for the championship game with Derry, game called off, I'm hearing from v good sources it was because Antrim hadn't lined the pitch, only flags put out, surface was fine. If this is true and I had no reason to doubt my source, like wtf is going on, seriously wtf???

I was told this as well from a ref. How embarrassing, if true surely Antrim shouldn't get playing in the rescheduled game. The pitch was playable on Saturday
Lads, when was the last time any of you lined a pitch.

Sure what would it matter it the rain would of washed it off?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2020, 09:28:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 17, 2020, 08:19:51 PM
Saffron Gael has just completed a trawl through all the club managements for the coming season. St Galls taking things seriously two lough shore men involved in a SIX man management team. Six men picking a team....that could be fun. Big Sean Fleming going to get plenty of advice too. Six at Rossa?as well!

Serious question though. Does anyone know exactly who is allowed inside the wire. Eg are all six allowed??

Paddy is his own man, he'll be picking his team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2020, 08:22:50 AM
Cant see those two Lough Shore men there as Yes men MR2, I'd be surprised if that arrangement sticks for the season...unless of course they are being nicely remunerated to take the coaching and leave the big decisions to the gang of four. Anyways good luck with it, every club does what it thinks is best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 18, 2020, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2020, 08:22:50 AM
Cant see those two Lough Shore men there as Yes men MR2, I'd be surprised if that arrangement sticks for the season...unless of course they are being nicely remunerated to take the coaching and leave the big decisions to the gang of four. Anyways good luck with it, every club does what it thinks is best.

BS did it name who these two loughshore men were? I think you have a point on the number of coaches/management team that are allowed within the wire. St.Johns have been notorious for having 6-8 men along the 2 lines all encroaching the field and taking turns at having a go at  refs or opposition players. Would think even in terms of safety that the county board and refs need to make it clear the number of selectors/ coaches  that are allowed along the line before throw in. For instance, if a brawl were to start, which wouldnt be anything out of the ordinary with the likes of Casements, Johnnies, LD or Aghagallon, then id be concerned with the amount of bodies in and around that line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2020, 09:12:01 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on February 17, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Lads does anyone have the fixtures for Div 2 & 3? it is due to start in less than 2 weeks and the County website does not have them detailed

First few weeks D2

ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 1 March R01 Ciceam Ard Eoin CLG, Béal Feirste v Tír na nÓg CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 1 March R01 Cúchullain CLG , Dun Láthaí v Naomh Treasa CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 1 March R01 Na Naomh Uile CLG Baile Meanach v Naomh Seamas CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Eargnait v CLG Naomh Pól CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm

ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 8 March R02 Naomh Pól CLG, Béal Feirste V Na Naomh Uile CLG Baile Meanach 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 8 March R02 Naomh Seosamh CLG, Lann Abhaigh V Cúchullain CLG , Dun Láthaí 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 8 March R02 Pádraig Sairséil CLG, Béal Feirste Ciceam V Ard Eoin CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 8 March R02 Tír na nÓg CLG V Naomh Eargnait CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 8 March R02 Naomh Treasa CLG, Béal Feirste V Conn Mag Aoidh CLG 2:30pm

ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 15 March R03 Micheál Mac Daibhéid CLG, Béal FeirsteNaomh V Pól CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 15 March R03 Na Naomh Uile CLG Baile Meanach Naomh Eargnait CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 15 March R03 Ciceam Ard Eoin CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Treasa CLG, Béal Feirste 2:30pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 15 March R03 Cúchullain CLG , Dun Láthaí Naomh Seamas CLG 2:30pm
ACFL DIV 2 Sunday 15 March R03 Pádraig Sairséil CLG, Béal Feirste Tír na nÓg CLG 2:30pm

And Division 3

ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 1 March R01 Éire Óg CLG V Laochra Loch Lao CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 1 March R01 Mac Uilin CLG V Na Piarsaigh CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Comhghall CLG V Naomh Maoileachlainn 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Muire CLG,Ros Earcain Naomh Pádraig CLG, Lois na gCearrbhach1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Úna CLG, Béal Feirste V Uí Dhonaill CLG 1:00pm

ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 8 March R02 Laochra Loch Lao CLG Mac Uilin CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 8 March R02 Na Piarsaigh CLG Naomh Comhghall CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 8 March R02 Naomh Maoileachlainn Naomh Muire CLG,Ros Earcain 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 8 March R02 Naomh Pádraig CLG, Lois na gCearrbhachNaomh Úna CLG/St Agnes GAC 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 8 March R02 Uí Dhonaill CLG Éire Óg CLG 1:00pm

ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 15 March R03 Éire Óg CLG Na Piarsaigh CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 15 March R03 Mac Uilin CLG Naomh Maoileachlainn 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 15 March R03 Naomh Comhghall CLG Naomh Pádraig CLG, Lois na gCearrbhach1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 15 March R03 Naomh Muire CLG,Ros Earcain Uí Dhonaill CLG 1:00pm
ACFL DIV 3 Sunday 15 March R03 Naomh Úna CLG, Béal Feirste Laochra Loch Lao CLG 1:00pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2020, 09:17:16 AM
Division 1

ACFL Div 1 Sunday 29 March R01 Ciceam An Creagan Ruairí Mhic Asmaint CLG 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 29 March R01 Clan na hEireann Carraigín Ó Donnabháin Rosa CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 29 March R01 Gort na Móna CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Galláin1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 29 March R01 Lámh Dhearg CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Eochaille1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 29 March R01 Naomh Bríd CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Gall CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 29 March R01 Naomh Éanna CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Eoin CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm

ACFL Div 1 Wednesday 1 April R02 Naomh Eoin CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Bríd CLG, Béal Feirste 7:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Wednesday 1 April R02 Naomh Gall CLG, Béal Feirste Lámh Dhearg CLG, Béal Feirste 7:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Wednesday 1 April R02 Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Eochaille Gort na Móna CLG, Béal Feirste 7:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Wednesday 1 April R02 Ó Donnabháin Rosa CLG, Béal Feirste Ciceam An Creagan 7:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Wednesday 1 April R02 Ruairí Mhic Asmaint CLG Naomh Éanna CLG, Béal Feirste 7:00pm

ACFL Div 1 Sunday 5 April R03 Ciceam An Creagan Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Galláin1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 5 April R03 Clan na hEireann Carraigín Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Eochaille1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 5 April R03 Gort na Móna CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Gall CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 5 April R03 Naomh Bríd CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Éanna CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 5 April R03 Lámh Dhearg CLG, Béal Feirste Naomh Eoin CLG, Béal Feirste 2:30pm
ACFL Div 1 Sunday 5 April R03 Ó Donnabháin Rosa CLG, Béal Feirste Ruairí Mhic Asmaint CLG 2:30pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
Question to MR2 as he is our onboard refereeing cognoscenti. Who exactly is allowed inside the line. I'd have thought manager, assistant manager, physio, a designated linesman, and the club secretary or his representative to write out subs etc. That's 5. But no exaggeration I saw matches last year with a dozen or more inside. What's the ruling and what is the penalty for infringement, and have any penalties actually been enforced?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
The Antrim v Derry U 20 match is now on Friday night at the Dub. Thats a great venue for it and hopefully a decent crowd shows up to support our young players. It could be a cracking match too.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
Question to MR2 as he is our onboard refereeing cognoscenti. Who exactly is allowed inside the line. I'd have thought manager, assistant manager, physio, a designated linesman, and the club secretary or his representative to write out subs etc. That's 5. But no exaggeration I saw matches last year with a dozen or more inside. What's the ruling and what is the penalty for infringement, and have any penalties actually been enforced?

from when i was with our senior hurlers you were allowed the manager (Bainisteoir), then a runner, (Maor Fóirne) a doctor/physio and thress stickmen/water (Maoir Uisce ) which amounted to 6 plus other selectors. the only ones allowed on the pitch were the Maor Fóirne and the stickmen (2 for football and 3 for hurling)

you can have more selectors but they are supposed to be in the sub bench area and cant leave it.

championship games they are supposed to be strict about this but league it seems much looser.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on February 18, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 18, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
Question to MR2 as he is our onboard refereeing cognoscenti. Who exactly is allowed inside the line. I'd have thought manager, assistant manager, physio, a designated linesman, and the club secretary or his representative to write out subs etc. That's 5. But no exaggeration I saw matches last year with a dozen or more inside. What's the ruling and what is the penalty for infringement, and have any penalties actually been enforced?

from when i was with our senior hurlers you were allowed the manager (Bainisteoir), then a runner, (Maor Fóirne) a doctor/physio and thress stickmen/water (Maoir Uisce ) which amounted to 6 plus other selectors. the only ones allowed on the pitch were the Maor Fóirne and the stickmen (2 for football and 3 for hurling)

you can have more selectors but they are supposed to be in the sub bench area and cant leave it.

championship games they are supposed to be strict about this but league it seems much looser.

To the best of my knowledge you can have.

Bainisteoir (Cannot enter the field of play)
Maor Foirne (Can enter the field of play after a score/wide of during a serious injury)
2 x Maor Uisce (Football permits 2 they must be stationed on the 45 at opposite sides of the pitch they should not enter the field)
Doctor
Physio
Club Secretary

Clubs can manipulate this by filling the Doctor and Club secretary roles with selectors and the same with Maor Uisces staying around the bench area rather than the designated areas. Generally in my experience it isn't enforced at Antrim championship games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on February 18, 2020, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on February 18, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 18, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
Question to MR2 as he is our onboard refereeing cognoscenti. Who exactly is allowed inside the line. I'd have thought manager, assistant manager, physio, a designated linesman, and the club secretary or his representative to write out subs etc. That's 5. But no exaggeration I saw matches last year with a dozen or more inside. What's the ruling and what is the penalty for infringement, and have any penalties actually been enforced?

from when i was with our senior hurlers you were allowed the manager (Bainisteoir), then a runner, (Maor Fóirne) a doctor/physio and thress stickmen/water (Maoir Uisce ) which amounted to 6 plus other selectors. the only ones allowed on the pitch were the Maor Fóirne and the stickmen (2 for football and 3 for hurling)

you can have more selectors but they are supposed to be in the sub bench area and cant leave it.

championship games they are supposed to be strict about this but league it seems much looser.

To the best of my knowledge you can have.

Bainisteoir (Cannot enter the field of play)
Maor Foirne (Can enter the field of play after a score/wide of during a serious injury)
2 x Maor Uisce (Football permits 2 they must be stationed on the 45 at opposite sides of the pitch they should not enter the field)
Doctor
Physio
Club Secretary

Clubs can manipulate this by filling the Doctor and Club secretary roles with selectors and the same with Maor Uisces staying around the bench area rather than the designated areas. Generally in my experience it isn't enforced at Antrim championship games

You are spot on 7 is supposed to be the number

The problem with Antrim as with all counties is that there are far too many ego's on the line who will not listen to any officials. I have witnessed linesman getting dogs abuse for merely trying to get the line clear so they can see/run up and down. sooner the better the CB start to hand out fines
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on February 18, 2020, 01:10:25 PM
A team could have 10-15 subs on any given day on top of all that.

Is the issue the number; or the behaviour?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on February 18, 2020, 01:19:35 PM
Panels should be limited to 24, again we know this isn't enforced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on February 18, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
It's a panel of 30 for club level though, in Rule.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 18, 2020, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: Ernesto on February 18, 2020, 01:10:25 PM
A team could have 10-15 subs on any given day on top of all that.

Is the issue the number; or the behaviour?

The number of subs are irrelevant as they shouldnt be on the pitch. The coaches/ men on the line are the ones who are entitled to cross the line to treat players or for instruction. Obviously the reason this was brought up was because some clubs are taking full advantage of a very unclear rule on who should be allowed in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2020, 05:50:35 PM
Bs what is this sacrilege of a hurling match at Portglenone ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2020, 05:54:56 PM
And the CCC seemingly powerless to enforce their own regulations because same clubs getting away with it time after time. To the extent it must be seen now as a deliberate tactic to impose themselves on either the referee the opposition or both. If it's not dealt with (and seen to be) how long will it be before every club starts adopting the same tactic??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2020, 06:00:22 PM
Indeed ITG indeed! And I'll be able to see the first twenty minutes without leaving the house. Then it's off to Glenavy to watch the proper game lol.

Not bumming up our pitch but it will be good to firm on Sunday regardless of the weather.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2020, 06:24:12 PM
No. Glenavy it is for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 18, 2020, 06:29:15 PM
Quote from: Ernesto on February 18, 2020, 01:10:25 PM
A team could have 10-15 subs on any given day on top of all that.

Is the issue the number; or the behaviour?

My tactics were to order all subs to stand outside the wire (where there was one)  & insist that the 2 sets of mentors occupied opposite sidelines, well away from each other!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2020, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on February 18, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 18, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
Question to MR2 as he is our onboard refereeing cognoscenti. Who exactly is allowed inside the line. I'd have thought manager, assistant manager, physio, a designated linesman, and the club secretary or his representative to write out subs etc. That's 5. But no exaggeration I saw matches last year with a dozen or more inside. What's the ruling and what is the penalty for infringement, and have any penalties actually been enforced?

from when i was with our senior hurlers you were allowed the manager (Bainisteoir), then a runner, (Maor Fóirne) a doctor/physio and thress stickmen/water (Maoir Uisce ) which amounted to 6 plus other selectors. the only ones allowed on the pitch were the Maor Fóirne and the stickmen (2 for football and 3 for hurling)

you can have more selectors but they are supposed to be in the sub bench area and cant leave it.

championship games they are supposed to be strict about this but league it seems much looser.

To the best of my knowledge you can have.

Bainisteoir (Cannot enter the field of play)
Maor Foirne (Can enter the field of play after a score/wide of during a serious injury)
2 x Maor Uisce (Football permits 2 they must be stationed on the 45 at opposite sides of the pitch they should not enter the field)
Doctor
Physio
Club Secretary

Clubs can manipulate this by filling the Doctor and Club secretary roles with selectors and the same with Maor Uisces staying around the bench area rather than the designated areas. Generally in my experience it isn't enforced at Antrim championship games

Its hard to properly enforce at club league game level tbf, at championship level I haven't had too many issues from the clubs, they generally get the email form the county with the regulations relating to the procedures. If all the grounds had the best facilities to look after subs and coaches, doctors and the rest then it would be easier to fix that problem.

Corrigan will hopefully have that sorted with their new set up, Glenavy have a very good set up for that also, that's what we need to look at, the encroaching of subs and coaches on tight pitches make it worse and can actually hype up their teams when they are so close to the field. Only have to look at the county final when a ball is played close to the line, every tackle is acted on by management and subs! 

Fix some of those issues then it will go a long way towards helping out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2020, 08:07:57 AM
I understand your logic MR2 but what I'm saying is that the CCC need to clamp down on clubs who deliberately flout these rules. Certain clubs are particularly blatant in their disregard for these guidelines...yet have been getting away with it for a long time as if they are beyond reproach. High time for these guidelines to be enforced  before other clubs adopt the same "tactic" as the norm, and the practice escalates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walt Jabsco on February 19, 2020, 03:11:22 PM
BS it is the same all over the country. Some CCCs are dependent on some clubs to host games and they play on it holding the CCC more or less to ransom whereby clamp down on us then find another venue.  Think of the poor linesmen and sideline officials trying to carry out their duties with two coach loads of bodies in close proximity.

In my experience sanctions are only applied at provincial and national level to offending teams
The regulations governing presentation of matches is rolled out every year without fail but seldom are they enforced

Found them
      https://ulster.gaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Match-Regulations-2018.pdf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 19, 2020, 03:15:16 PM
I'm hearing Naomh Pol and Gort Na Mona have no minor teams this year and Davitts/St John have Amalgamated - sorry state of affairs - maybe something Gaelfast could look at? drop of at this age seems to be getting worse in Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Gaa in Belfast is in a sorry state, many clubs there really starting to feel the pinch with dropping participation rates. Can anyone there with a finger on the pulse say what the problem is. Belfast schools poor this year too in Ulster colleges! Is there any light on the horizon there outside of Gaelfast which is ten years away from seeing dividends.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2020, 08:56:48 AM
Did anyone read Brendan Crossans piece yesterday in the Irish News about Lenny Harbinsons proposals (or personal views) on the restructuring of the gaa, its games and its governance. Easily the best bit of forward thinking I have come across to date. Well worth a discussion if anyone could paste it up here, that's beyond my capability lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:24:09 AM
It's been posted on the Gaelic Football Rules and Regulations page if anyone wants to pick up the discussion there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 20, 2020, 01:02:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Gaa in Belfast is in a sorry state, many clubs there really starting to feel the pinch with dropping participation rates. Can anyone there with a finger on the pulse say what the problem is. Belfast schools poor this year too in Ulster colleges! Is there any light on the horizon there outside of Gaelfast which is ten years away from seeing dividends.
The problem is easy to indentify and hard to fix - Drop off at 15/16 years is scary - after Feile and with no strong schools in Ulster competitions the boys lose interest in their droves. No Naomh Treasa, O'Ds, Ardoyne, Pearses, Eire Og, Aggies, Colin gaels minor teams also. Solutions hard to think off but hope Is being looked at and Gaelfast Good primary school work won't be wasted when kids get to this age
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 20, 2020, 01:08:23 PM
LENNY'S PLAN
(Based on 2020 National Football League, with current standings taken as final positions)

- No pre-season competitions
- No provincial championships
- Championship and league blended together
- Organised in four groups of eight, without New York
- Groups seeded, with two teams from each 2020 NFL division in each group
- Double round league, fourteen games each, home and away
- Top four in each group go through to All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals
- Bottom four in each group move into All-Ireland IFC quarter-finals
- Both competitions open draw
- Two competitions run side-by-sid
- Two options for Championship dates – either May 17 to June 28, or August 9 to September 20
- All-Ireland SFC and IFC finals played on the same weekend, if not together

Groups seeded, randomly generated
Group A: Galway, Meath, Westmeath, Clare, Cork, Derry, Sligo, London
Group B: Mayo, Kerry, Laois, Kildare, Longford, Down, Carlow, Wexford
Group C: Tyrone, Donegal, Armagh, Fermanagh, Offaly, Tipperary, Antrim, Waterford
Group D: Dublin, Monaghan, Cavan, Roscommon, Leitrim, Louth, Limerick, Wicklow

Group stage fixtures
January 4/5
Group A: Meath v Galway, London v Westmeath, Sligo v Clare, Cork v Derry
Group B: Kerry v Mayo, Laois v Wexford, Kildare v Carlow, Longford v Down
Group C: Donegal v Tyrone, Armagh v Waterford, Fermanagh v Antrim, Offaly v Tipperary
Group D: Monaghan v Dublin, Cavan v Wicklow, Roscommon v Limerick, Leitrim v Louth

January 11/12
Group A: Westmeath v Clare, Galway v Sligo, London v Derry, Cork v Meath
Group B: Laois v Kildare, Mayo v Carlow, Wexford v Down, Kerry v Longford
Group C: Armagh v Fermanagh, Tyrone v Antrim, Waterford v Tipperary, Donegal v Offaly
Group D: Cavan v Roscommon, Dublin v Limerick, Wicklow v Louth, Monaghan v Leitrim

January 18/19
Group A: Sligo v Cork, London v Clare, Meath v Westmeath, Derry v Galway
Group B: Carlow v Longford, Wexford v Kildare, Kerry v Laois, Down v Mayo
Group C: Antrim v Offaly, Waterford v Fermanagh, Donegal v Armagh, Tipperary v Tyrone
Group D: Limerick v Leitrim, Wicklow v Roscommon, Monaghan v Cavan, Louth v Dublin

January 25/26
Group A: Galway v Westmeath, Clare v Meath, Cork v London, Derry v Sligo
Group B: Mayo v Laois, Kildare v Kerry, Longford v Wexford, Down v Carlow
Group C: Tyrone v Armagh, Fermanagh v Donegal, Offaly v Waterford, Tipperary v Antrim
Group D: Dublin v Cavan, Roscommon v Monaghan, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Louth

February 1/2
Break week

February 8/9
Group A: Clare v Cork, London v Galway, Meath v Sligo, Westmeath v Derry
Group B: Kildare v Longford, Wexford v Mayo, Kerry v Carlow, Laois v Down
Group C: Fermanagh v Offaly, Waterford v Tyrone, Donegal v Antrim, Armagh v Tipperary
Group D: Roscommon v Leitrim, Wicklow v Dublin, Monaghan v Limerick, Cavan v Louth

February 15/16
Group A: Derry v Meath, Sligo v London, Clare v Galway, Cork v Westmeath
Group B: Down v Kerry, Carlow v Wexford, Kildare v Mayo, Longford v Laois
Group C: Tipperary v Donegal, Antrim v Waterford, Fermanagh v Tyrone, Offaly v Armagh
Group D: Louth v Monaghan, Limerick v Wicklow, Roscommon v Dublin, Leitrim v Cavan

February 22/23
Group A: Sligo v Westmeath, London v Meath, Galway v Cork, Derry v Clare
Group B: Carlow v Laois, Wexford v Kerry, Mayo v Longford, Down v Kildare
Group C: Antrim v Armagh, Waterford v Donegal, Tyrone v Offaly, Tipperary v Fermanagh
Group D: Limerick v Cavan, Wicklow v Monaghan, Dublin v Leitrim, Louth v Roscommon

February 29 / March 1
Group A: Galway v Meath, Westmeath v London, Clare v Sligo, Derry v Cork
Group B: Mayo v Kerry, Wexford v Laois, Carlow v Kildare, Down v Longford
Group C: Tyrone v Donegal, Waterford v Armagh, Antrim v Fermanagh, Tipperary v Offaly
Group D: Dublin v Monaghan, Wicklow v Cavan, Limerick v Roscommon, Louth v Leitrim

March 7/8
Break week

March 14/15
Group A: Clare v Westmeath, Sligo v Galway, Derry v London, Meath v Cork
Group B: Kildare v Laois, Carlow v Mayo, Down v Wexford, Longford v Kerry
Group C: Fermanagh v Armagh, Antrim v Tyrone, Tipperary v Waterford, Offaly v Donegal
Group D: Roscommon v Cavan, Limerick v Dublin, Louth v Wicklow, Leitrim v Monaghan

March 21/22
Group A: Cork v Sligo, Clare v London, Westmeath v Meath, Galway v Derry
Group B: Longford v Carlow, Kildare v Wexford, Laois v Kerry, Mayo v Down
Group C: Offaly v Antrim, Fermanagh v Waterford, Armagh v Donegal, Tyrone v Tipperary
Group D: Leitrim v Limerick, Roscommon v Wicklow, Cavan v Monaghan, Dublin v Louth

March 28/29
Group A: Westmeath v Galway, Meath v Clare, London v Cork, Sligo v Derry
Group B: Laois v Mayo, Kerry v Kildare, Wexford v Longford, Carlow v Down
Group C: Armagh v Tyrone, Donegal v Fermanagh, Waterford v Offaly, Antrim v Tipperary
Group D: Cavan v Dublin, Monaghan v Roscommon, Wicklow v Leitrim, Louth v Limerick

April 4/5
Break week

April 11/12
Group A: Cork v Clare, Galway v London, Sligo v Meath, Derry v Westmeath
Group B: Longford v Kildare, Mayo v Wexford, Carlow v Kerry, Down v Laois
Group C: Offaly v Fermanagh, Tyrone v Waterford, Antrim v Donegal, Tipperary v Armagh
Group D: Leitrim v Roscommon, Dublin v Wicklow, Limerick v Monaghan, Louth v Cavan

April 18/19
Group A: Meath v Derry, London v Sligo, Galway v Clare, Westmeath v Cork
Group B: Kerry v Down, Wexford v Carlow, Mayo v Kildare, Laois v Longford
Group C: Donegal v Tipperary, Waterford v Antrim, Tyrone v Fermanagh, Armagh v Offaly
Group D: Monaghan v Louth, Wicklow v Limerick, Dublin v Roscommon, Cavan v Leitrim

April 25/26
Group A: Westmeath v Sligo, Meath v London, Cork v Galway, Clare v Derry
Group B: Laois v Carlow, Kerry v Wexford, Longford v Mayo, Kildare v Down
Group C: Armagh v Antrim, Donegal v Waterford, Offaly v Tyrone, Fermanagh v Tipperary
Group D: Cavan v Limerick, Monaghan v Wicklow, Leitrim v Dublin, Roscommon v Louth

Championship schedule
- Either May 17 to June 28, or August 9 to September 20
- If May / June, club fixtures come in straight after inter-county championships end
- If August / September, inter-county teams break on April 26 and club league fixtures are played through May, June and early July, with club championships played from September 27 onwards

May 2/3: Break week

May 9/10: Break week

May 16/17
All-Ireland SFC and IFC round one (lowest ranked team at home where applicable)
All-Ireland SFC: Westmeath v Galway, Donegal v Mayo, Kildare v Dublin, Fermanagh v Roscommon, Tyrone v Galway, Cavan v Armagh, Laois v Monaghan, Clare v Kerry
All-Ireland IFC: Sligo v Derry, Waterford v Offaly, Louth v Down, Carlow v Cork, Limerick v Wicklow, Wexford v Longford, London v Leitrim, Antrim v Tipperary

May 23/24: Break week

May 30/31
All-Ireland SFC and IFC quarter-finals (neutral, games paired)
All-Ireland SFC: Tyrone v Kerry, Armagh v Dublin, Monaghan v Roscommon, Galway v Donegal
All-Ireland IFC: Down v Limerick, Cork v Tipperary, Offaly v Longford, Derry v Leitrim

June 6/7: Break week

June 13/14
All-Ireland SFC and IFC semi-finals
All-Ireland SFC: Kerry v Dublin, Monaghan v Donegal
All-Ireland IFC: Down v Cork, Longford v Derry

June 20/21: Break week

June 27/28
All-Ireland SFC final: Dublin v Donegal
All-Ireland IFC final: Cork v Derry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 20, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
Serious amount of mismatches there and games I wouldn't even bother watching. Something needs to change though. A 2 or even 3 tier championship needs to happen, even if it is merged with the leagues as well. The league is the most interesting competition nowadays. Some great games and evenly matched teams playing each other weekly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 20, 2020, 01:02:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Gaa in Belfast is in a sorry state, many clubs there really starting to feel the pinch with dropping participation rates. Can anyone there with a finger on the pulse say what the problem is. Belfast schools poor this year too in Ulster colleges! Is there any light on the horizon there outside of Gaelfast which is ten years away from seeing dividends.
The problem is easy to indentify and hard to fix - Drop off at 15/16 years is scary - after Feile and with no strong schools in Ulster competitions the boys lose interest in their droves. No Naomh Treasa, O'Ds, Ardoyne, Pearses, Eire Og, Aggies, Colin gaels minor teams also. Solutions hard to think off but hope Is being looked at and Gaelfast Good primary school work won't be wasted when kids get to this age
This is a very sad state of affairs for Gaelic games in the city. I have to say that Gaelfast would be better getting their teeth into tackling the stupendous lack of minor players as opposed to posing for Fencing photographs. Some clubs obviously need help ASAP for older teens - last year only 1 City club in minor hurling A champo as well. Get your finger out lads

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2020, 04:19:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 20, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
Serious amount of mismatches there and games I wouldn't even bother watching. Something needs to change though. A 2 or even 3 tier championship needs to happen, even if it is merged with the leagues as well. The league is the most interesting competition nowadays. Some great games and evenly matched teams playing each other weekly.

that proposal looks great on paper but what the hell are clubs supposed to do? just play most the year without their best players throughout the league campaign? championship in October basically with pitches into the arse and poor weather and then knocking on the ulster and all Ireland series into Christmas time. no break for the players and back at it in Jan again.

never, ever, ever will it work because if your from dublin or kerry etc youll spend all year playing if your from a good club side as well.

i would be behind a tiered championship even at our own expense. its the only way it will ever work, the same as the hurling. its works and its proved itself that it works.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 20, 2020, 05:08:14 PM
The irony of it all, a good posters on here bemoaning managers allegedly getting paid. Well haven't the volunteers in these clubs failed miserably. You see, to engage these players at that age you need skills and knowledge and it's clear what has happened is beyond their abilities. No doubt there will be a good few who will take exception to my comments but the facts speaks volumes. I would genuinely love to know have 2 or 3 of these clubs joined forces to to financially contribute to paying for a full time coach who would specifically targetted each of their primary schools and their their secondary schools whilst promoting a culture of love your club what the outcome would be from 15-18. That's what I would call self help. The old model has failed them badly and requires a 2020 model for change and growth
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 20, 2020, 08:07:34 PM
I like debate so I won't take exception to your comments and yes maybe the clubs do need to up theiir game but Belfast's problems are numerous
- to many clubs fighting for players
- lack community GAA spirit evident in many SW & NA clubs
- a severe mental health crisis affecting West & North Belfast's teenagers leading to many lost lives
- years of under investment by Belfast City Council V investment in soccer
- the loss of Casement
So for these reasons we need Gaelfast to help us help ourselves with our teenager problems which is showing itself in minor football teams getting fewer and fewer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2020, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 20, 2020, 08:07:34 PM
I like debate so I won't take exception to your comments and yes maybe the clubs do need to up theiir game but Belfast's problems are numerous
- to many clubs fighting for players
- lack community GAA spirit evident in many SW & NA clubs
- a severe mental health crisis affecting West & North Belfast's teenagers leading to many lost lives
- years of under investment by Belfast City Council V investment in soccer
- the loss of Casement
So for these reasons we need Gaelfast to help us help ourselves with our teenager problems which is showing itself in minor football teams getting fewer and fewer

It's not Gaelfast's main agenda at that level I'd suspect, driving and developing a passion to our youngsters, under 6/8/10's who'll hopefully filter into regular leagues with good structures and better coaching at schools and clubs will help with retention.

You'll get better results from that than trying to encourage our current 16/17 to 'stay on'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 21, 2020, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
BS you say 15-18 yr olds aren't in his remit but fairly sure Gaelfast doing work with county squads at that age? I Understand new programs take time to be a success but we can't afford to ignore this key age group for another 3 to 4 years IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 21, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Perhaps if there was a precise plan published for Gaelfast we would be not be surmising on remits. If we can't tackle drop out rates at older teen age then we will not fully maximise the benefits of Gaelfast. Outside the city we are doing OK but I grew up in Belfast and its agonising to see the disparity to SW & NW.
There are many issues in Belfast and its not fair to level all the criticism at volunteers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 21, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Perhaps if there was a precise plan published for Gaelfast we would be not be surmising on remits. If we can't tackle drop out rates at older teen age then we will not fully maximise the benefits of Gaelfast. Outside the city we are doing OK but I grew up in Belfast and its agonising to see the disparity to SW & NW.
There are many issues in Belfast and its not fair to level all the criticism at volunteers

Who's blaming volunteers?

Over the next 5 years Gaelfast has been instructed to generate a better GAA Belfast with our youngest gaels and school kids, The the reasons why we lose teenagers are plenty, they are not bothered anymore/lost interest, drink/drugs, other sports, poor leagues not structured like soccer, going away to college and so on.

Some of these problems lie everywhere, not just in Belfast. Rural clubs will tell you low birth rates hit them the hardest and for the older players it would be moving away due to work.

Growing up in Belfast, outside of rioting the GAA didn't have too many distractions and schools were very much involved with the coaching and GAA development. Clubs had more money and life wasn't in the fast lane it is now, being brought to Croke park was cheap, if not long, but the craic on the way down was great, the manager had a bus that picked everyone up for games and dropped them off at night. Numbers were not a issue, distractions were less, the peace process has played a part, as its no coincidence that the opening up of the city as enable kids to try other sports.

Gaelfast has 5 years to spend £1 million. £2000 grand a year, plenty of money but to fix the problems that have been brought up its not a lot. Compare that money to what Dublin gets and how they have used it.

I'd give it time, stop looking at fixing problems further up the ladder and start at the bottom rung of the ladder, building better foundations will give us a better future.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 21, 2020, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 21, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Perhaps if there was a precise plan published for Gaelfast we would be not be surmising on remits. If we can't tackle drop out rates at older teen age then we will not fully maximise the benefits of Gaelfast. Outside the city we are doing OK but I grew up in Belfast and its agonising to see the disparity to SW & NW.
There are many issues in Belfast and its not fair to level all the criticism at volunteers

Who's blaming volunteers?

Over the next 5 years Gaelfast has been instructed to generate a better GAA Belfast with our youngest gaels and school kids, The the reasons why we lose teenagers are plenty, they are not bothered anymore/lost interest, drink/drugs, other sports, poor leagues not structured like soccer, going away to college and so on.

Some of these problems lie everywhere, not just in Belfast. Rural clubs will tell you low birth rates hit them the hardest and for the older players it would be moving away due to work.

Growing up in Belfast, outside of rioting the GAA didn't have too many distractions and schools were very much involved with the coaching and GAA development. Clubs had more money and life wasn't in the fast lane it is now, being brought to Croke park was cheap, if not long, but the craic on the way down was great, the manager had a bus that picked everyone up for games and dropped them off at night. Numbers were not a issue, distractions were less, the peace process has played a part, as its no coincidence that the opening up of the city as enable kids to try other sports.

Gaelfast has 5 years to spend £1 million. £2000 grand a year, plenty of money but to fix the problems that have been brought up its not a lot. Compare that money to what Dublin gets and how they have used it.

I'd give it time, stop looking at fixing problems further up the ladder and start at the bottom rung of the ladder, building better foundations will give us a better future.
I hear what you are saying about giving GFast time but I was Shocked when I heard Naomh Pol had no minor football or hurling team. Naomh Pol is famous at this grade through previous success and the Ulster Minor tournament they hold. They have a good complex and had loads of good leaders at committee level including PD in recent years. Don't think this should wait 4 or 5 years to get some attention that's all - its a wake up call to all belfast and Antrim gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2020, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 21, 2020, 05:47:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 21, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 20, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
I don't think 15 -18 year olds are in Paul Donnellys remit. Most will have already made their minds up at 15 that playing Gaa competitively is not for them. The battle for hearts and minds lies with the 6 -12 year olds....youngsters aiming to be the next Neil Mc Manus or Conor Murray, playing for club and county.
Gaelfast will make a huge difference, that and the social media provided by Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael which means the youngsters can see their photos and match reports and start seeing a bigger picture for themselves as they get older.

Maybe we just have to accept that sometimes it needs to hit rock bottom before the cycle begins to turn. I don't think anyone can deny that Gaelic Games in Belfast has slipped down the pecking order in terms of teenagers priorities. Three or four years should start to see a difference and that will be good for everyone.
Perhaps if there was a precise plan published for Gaelfast we would be not be surmising on remits. If we can't tackle drop out rates at older teen age then we will not fully maximise the benefits of Gaelfast. Outside the city we are doing OK but I grew up in Belfast and its agonising to see the disparity to SW & NW.
There are many issues in Belfast and its not fair to level all the criticism at volunteers

Who's blaming volunteers?

Him. Seemingly, they're useless and until some man is getting a few bob the whole thing is fcuked.

Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 20, 2020, 05:08:14 PM
The irony of it all, a good posters on here bemoaning managers allegedly getting paid. Well haven't the volunteers in these clubs failed miserably. You see, to engage these players at that age you need skills and knowledge and it's clear what has happened is beyond their abilities.

Without our volunteers our clubs wouldn't function. These paid managers don't look after the under 6's or even the minors, so they don't develop anyone in fairness, that's all done before they become seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 21, 2020, 08:41:07 PM
I hope most of u aren't involved, because if going by your ability to read any wonder clubs in Belfast with kids from 16-18 are fecked. Yes the volunteers in the clubs that can't feild minor teams with the populations they have, have failed. Dublin recognised this 15 years ago and put paid skilled coaches into every club who matched the funding offered with 50% if their own resources whose remit was to coach the volunteers to be better coaches, coaches the kids and go into the clubs primary schools to coach. I could go on but its clear how dead the thinking is here. Backwoods stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 21, 2020, 09:16:38 PM
Great result for the U20's. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 21, 2020, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 21, 2020, 09:16:38 PM
Great result for the U20's.

Looks like Shivers lorded it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2020, 10:17:22 PM
When was the last time an Antrim team beat a Derry team in the championship? I am not that young and I certainly can't remember a time...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 21, 2020, 10:35:19 PM
Big Shivers played very well, but there was a lot more to the win than that. Very strong team performance especially at the beginning of the second half, playing into a gale force wind, we got the scores then that were the difference in the end. Derry poor going forward, didn't score for more than 30 mins play, but they were under big pressure from our lads when in possession.

Very encouraging result and performance. Maybe more to come from some of our players too, great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2020, 10:38:31 PM
Yea a brave while ITG this one is sweet because the Derry ones I was talking to before the match had the result as a foregone conclusion. Seems like the Derry team thought that too! That's championship football every team deserves respect in a two team shootout.

Well done Hugh Colm Niall and Benny hope I havent left anyone out. Terrific result that should give the county a lift and our many knockers a wee wake up call that we are producing good footballers too.

Big Pat, Classy Adam, Bronze Luke and Eoghan Mc Menamin my pick on the night where everybody stood tall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
42 minutes Brendan Derry went without a score. Unbelievable statistic. Again, well done one and all. Hopefully Luke is fit to start in the next round. That's vital.

Cant see the match 2moro being played. Glenavy pitch couldn't hold out to that weather.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2020, 09:33:36 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/authors/john-fogarty/

Great article here in the Irish Examiner about Paul Donnelly presenting a strong argument that Antrim deserve more proportate funding from HQ for development of Gaelic Games in Irelands second largest city. Fair play to John Fogarty for providing that platform.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
The above read provides a fascinating insight into what's really going on with Gaelfast. Paul Donnelly starting to look like a terrific appointment and a really safe pair of hands. Less than a year in and most of his foundations are in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 22, 2020, 02:14:48 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched
Don't agree with your Gaelfast sentiment. 2 years in and cannot see much progress except for a Social Media presence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 22, 2020, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 21, 2020, 08:41:07 PM
I hope most of u aren't involved, because if going by your ability to read any wonder clubs in Belfast with kids from 16-18 are fecked. Yes the volunteers in the clubs that can't feild minor teams with the populations they have, have failed. Dublin recognised this 15 years ago and put paid skilled coaches into every club who matched the funding offered with 50% if their own resources whose remit was to coach the volunteers to be better coaches, coaches the kids and go into the clubs primary schools to coach. I could go on but its clear how dead the thinking is here. Backwoods stuff
Love the banter DK but feel you are harsh on volunteer and failure. Perhaps they underachieved or had a weak pool of players. Money isn't the panacea for all ills otherwise teams like Creggan would have bought a few all county titles with the vast sums of money spent on managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2020, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 22, 2020, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 21, 2020, 08:41:07 PM
I hope most of u aren't involved, because if going by your ability to read any wonder clubs in Belfast with kids from 16-18 are fecked. Yes the volunteers in the clubs that can't feild minor teams with the populations they have, have failed. Dublin recognised this 15 years ago and put paid skilled coaches into every club who matched the funding offered with 50% if their own resources whose remit was to coach the volunteers to be better coaches, coaches the kids and go into the clubs primary schools to coach. I could go on but its clear how dead the thinking is here. Backwoods stuff
Love the banter DK but feel you are harsh on volunteer and failure. Perhaps they underachieved or had a weak pool of players. Money isn't the panacea for all ills otherwise teams like Creggan would have bought a few all county titles with the vast sums of money spent on managers

Cargin do alright as do S'neil with outside managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 22, 2020, 03:15:59 PM
Must be an average group of players that results in failure to win titles then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gall the way on February 22, 2020, 03:17:23 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 22, 2020, 02:14:48 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched
Don't agree with your Gaelfast sentiment. 2 years in and cannot see much progress except for a Social Media presence

Been publicly critical myself on here in the past of Gaelfast, particularly those involved in setting it up, but I have to say Paul Donnelly and the team seemed to have done some great work. 2 years looks like an unfair timeline in fairness. Do I not remember the recruitment of staff being advertised just last year? Hardly hold those people accountable for 2 years worth?
Just read the article by Fogarty, looks like there's a plan also in the making after in depth consultation, so I look forward to seeing that considering it's being prepared the right way. Happy to wait and be positive (which as I say, I wasn't before). Senior teams seeing a bit of a purple patch, U20s win last night and this article all give me hope! If we all don't pull together we might lose this opportunity!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2020, 03:37:24 PM
Sligo losing late on to Waterford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
Yea it's just over. Waterford beat Sligo by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2020, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
Yea it's just over. Waterford beat Sligo by 2

Strange league! A win tomorrow would hopefully set up a promotion push
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 22, 2020, 04:40:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2020, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
Yea it's just over. Waterford beat Sligo by 2

Strange league! A win tomorrow would hopefully set up a promotion push

I think the league is a super competition.  Teams playing at their own level and this is borne out by the various results in all the leagues.

I've always said the GAA is the only organisation where the league is secondary to the cup competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2020, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 21, 2020, 08:41:07 PM
I hope most of u aren't involved, because if going by your ability to read any wonder clubs in Belfast with kids from 16-18 are fecked. Yes the volunteers in the clubs that can't feild minor teams with the populations they have, have failed. Dublin recognised this 15 years ago and put paid skilled coaches into every club who matched the funding offered with 50% if their own resources whose remit was to coach the volunteers to be better coaches, coaches the kids and go into the clubs primary schools to coach. I could go on but its clear how dead the thinking is here. Backwoods stuff
what would your plan be for Belfast DK ? U seem to think it's easy fixed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2020, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
Yea it's just over. Waterford beat Sligo by 2

Jaysus. Still a must win game tomorrow. A win would set us up nicely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 23, 2020, 05:13:10 PM
For the record....I really can't stand Carlow.

Just had to get that off my chest.  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 23, 2020, 06:52:55 PM
Draw was probably the fair result in the end. I thought the ref was very harsh on Antrim at times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2020, 07:00:41 PM
Hard to like surely Brendan. A lot of big men who play it on the edge like no other team in Division Four that I've seen for quite azwhile...since the last twice we played them in fact. Our hurlers found the same thing too!

I watched their warm up and could tell how well up the were for this one....and maybe we underestimated that a bit because we were very slow to settle and get into any rhythm. It took half time to settle us but when both teams went really at it in the second half I could see we were better than them....but why did we leave it for 40 minutes to get into the groove? The real answer is because I think they rattled us tbh. That plus the conditions suited them a lot more than us but I saw that coming. We could have won it with chances at the end...but then again Carlow had a narrow wide with the last play of the game and I've seen those go over. A draw probably a fair result but it leaves our task just that bit harder now, but still achievable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2020, 07:11:00 PM
Agree JS, and everyone around me said the same. Carlow had a point given that I thought was wide half way through the second half. I had a perfect view of it too. Colm Duffin thought his free was over and the cheer went up fron the crowd in the far side who had a good view....but that was waved wide. Theres two points we were on the wrong side of. Not only that, but normally reliable Paddy C had a day to forget kicking a a couple wide and dropping a few frees into their keepers arms at times when we just needed a score to give us composure. It happens, there will always be a middling performance here and there in any season.

Mick Mc Cann did offer us some needed composure when he entered the fray, and Conor Small and Oran Eastwood definitely made more things happen up front when they were introduced, especially Oran who stepped up and saved our bacon when it mattered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 23, 2020, 07:51:27 PM
I'd like to see a video of the late Duffin free, I certainly thought it was over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on February 24, 2020, 11:24:50 AM
Very frustrated watching that match yesterday in difficult conditions. Carlow arent a great side but as BS said, looked alot hungrier and sharper than us. Was waiting for the likes of Cunningham or someone to step up and give us a bit of composure and manage the game to suit us against the wind but we just havent got that cuteness or awareness of how manage conditions. All that said fair play for the lads in the last 15 who squeezed a result out for us. Eastwood in particular. Doesnt look like div 3 will be acheivable unless we come acroos a couple of upsets in the other games. Wexford have now won 3 on the trot from their defeat to Antrim. Not as a bad a side as they shown that day against us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 24, 2020, 11:53:21 AM
Promotion is still there for us, if we win on Sunday and head into last two games v Wicklow and Waterford knowing that two wins takes us up....I'd settle for that. We can finish on 11 points, that takes us up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 24, 2020, 12:20:46 PM
I thought Carlow were better than us yesterDay but this bunch has shown great character so far this year and never gave up yesterday so fair play - if Limerick and wexford dont draw it is still in our own hands
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2020, 02:21:24 PM
Division 2 and 3 to start this weekend for the football. i really to god dont understand the thought process behind this of playing games at this stage of the year when pitches are into the arse.

i was looking at ours on Sunday morning and its not been touched since last year and was saturated. the main pitch is closed till May, as it is every year, and wont be used at all.

with the fixtures list we will have 8 football league games played before the hurlers start their D1 games. pure madness

Sorry meant to add, well done to Portglenone on Sunday for their perfect hosting of the National League game against Meath. Well organised and plenty of stewards about looking after things. Pitch as always was top notch considering the weather we've been having.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 24, 2020, 03:04:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2020, 02:21:24 PM
Division 2 and 3 to start this weekend for the football. i really to god dont understand the thought process behind this of playing games at this stage of the year when pitches are into the arse.

i was looking at ours on Sunday morning and its not been touched since last year and was saturated. the main pitch is closed till May, as it is every year, and wont be used at all.

with the fixtures list we will have 8 football league games played before the hurlers start their D1 games. pure madness

Sorry meant to add, well done to Portglenone on Sunday for their perfect hosting of the National League game against Meath. Well organised and plenty of stewards about looking after things. Pitch as always was top notch considering the weather we've been having.

Agreed, crazy, also given the div 3 and 2 football leagues will be finished at the end of June, the championship preliminary rounds are scheduled for 14th August, I think it's 6/7 weeks between leagues ending and championship football starting, surely that's too long?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 24, 2020, 03:45:21 PM
Would some division 2 games not be called off as county team playing at 2pm on Sunday ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
i dont understand how they could as we played the most of our D2 league last season minus all our county hurlers plus some of the dual players lol :D

no point in feeling sorry for yourselves, you just get out and play the games and give other lads their chances.

theres a county meeting tonight so id say they will confirm all the fixtures for the weekend at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on February 25, 2020, 09:41:14 AM
Are these games still going ahead? Cannot see anything on the County Website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on February 25, 2020, 10:38:46 AM
DR - point well made. 15 + men (30 If you include opposition) are denied football or hurling because one or two are away with the County. Regular programme of fixtures will ultimately develop all our players and improve standards.

The schedule for 2020 leagues looks to be very stop start - bursts of football, then bursts of hurling and so on.

On fixtures, our Secretary says not discussed last night. General dates but no actual fixtures and it's still a work in progress. The schedule of fixtures originally circulated has been changed too.

In summary, Div 2 and 3 football clubs will be playing on Sunday (no word on div1 and 2 reserve).  It seems you won't know who/where, but watch this space.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Ernesto on February 25, 2020, 10:38:46 AM
DR - point well made. 15 + men (30 If you include opposition) are denied football or hurling because one or two are away with the County. Regular programme of fixtures will ultimately develop all our players and improve standards.

The schedule for 2020 leagues looks to be very stop start - bursts of football, then bursts of hurling and so on.

On fixtures, our Secretary says not discussed last night. General dates but no actual fixtures and it's still a work in progress. The schedule of fixtures originally circulated has been changed too.

In summary, Div 2 and 3 football clubs will be playing on Sunday (no word on div1 and 2 reserve).  It seems you won't know who/where, but watch this space.

we played multiple league games last year with a bare minimum panel - Rossa away we travelled with 17 players and not one of them was one of our senior hurlers in the starting team. All 17 lads got a good game against a strong team and gave a good account of themselves, despite falling away towards the end of the game.

Moneyglass away, glenavy home, Rossa Home, Ballymena away, Sarsfields home and away, lisburn away - all of those games played with no county players, no dual players (who would start for our senior hurlers in a league game a few days later) and played every game. (only winning 2 of them in that lot).

Any team who wants to cancel a game as they could be missing a few players your denying your whole panel a game and showing very poor faith in the rest of the team to go out and play games and make the step up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 25, 2020, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 25, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Ernesto on February 25, 2020, 10:38:46 AM
DR - point well made. 15 + men (30 If you include opposition) are denied football or hurling because one or two are away with the County. Regular programme of fixtures will ultimately develop all our players and improve standards.

The schedule for 2020 leagues looks to be very stop start - bursts of football, then bursts of hurling and so on.

On fixtures, our Secretary says not discussed last night. General dates but no actual fixtures and it's still a work in progress. The schedule of fixtures originally circulated has been changed too.

In summary, Div 2 and 3 football clubs will be playing on Sunday (no word on div1 and 2 reserve).  It seems you won't know who/where, but watch this space.

we played multiple league games last year with a bare minimum panel - Rossa away we travelled with 17 players and not one of them was one of our senior hurlers in the starting team. All 17 lads got a good game against a strong team and gave a good account of themselves, despite falling away towards the end of the game.

Moneyglass away, glenavy home, Rossa Home, Ballymena away, Sarsfields home and away, lisburn away - all of those games played with no county players, no dual players (who would start for our senior hurlers in a league game a few days later) and played every game. (only winning 2 of them in that lot).

Any team who wants to cancel a game as they could be missing a few players your denying your whole panel a game and showing very poor faith in the rest of the team to go out and play games and make the step up

DR I understand what your saying, but is that approach not exactly the approach Croke Park wants clubs to take so that county players focus on county with minimal games for the club during the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing senior inter-county football make its debut in Portglenone on Sunday in a game that is simply must win at this stage round 5 of the league. Limerick are going well, unbeaten in four, and will pose a considerable threat. Glenavy are traditionally good supporters of the county team and although they might feel a bit aggrieved at losing the venue, I am sure that on this occasion they understand the rationale.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 25, 2020, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 24, 2020, 03:45:21 PM
Would some division 2 games not be called off as county team playing at 2pm on Sunday ?
Can anyone confirm this week's div 2/3 fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 25, 2020, 10:37:04 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 25, 2020, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 24, 2020, 03:45:21 PM
Would some division 2 games not be called off as county team playing at 2pm on Sunday ?
Can anyone confirm this week's div 2/3 fixtures

Fixtures from initial list will proceed as planned however  some are off.
E.g Glenavy , moneyglass games are off
Div2 clubs with county players are off from what I was told on Monday.
All others throwing in at 1pm

Unlike BS ,we cant all  be in portglenone !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 25, 2020, 11:09:54 PM
Div2
Ardoyne v Tir Nog,
Dunloy v st treasa
Bmena  v aldergrove
Mglass  v st Paul's

Div2
Eire og   v LLL
Bcastle  v pearses
Antrim  v Mals
Rasharkin v Lisburn
Aggies   v O'DS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2020, 08:36:23 AM
the weather will play a big part in it as well.

it snowed against yesterday evening in our area and lay for a bit and then rained on top of it. the weather isnt looking good the rest of the week so id say at the moment our pitch wont be open if it doesnt fair up in any way at all.

be plenty of other pitches like that this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on February 26, 2020, 10:35:25 AM
Thanks for the updates Delgany. You've either a damn good inside line of information or our Secretary is slow in circulating information - lol.

Would you have reserve fixtures for the weekend, if possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2020, 12:04:05 PM
ACFL DIV 2 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Conn Mag Aoidh CLG Bye
ACFL DIV 2 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Na Naomh Uile CLG Baile Meanach v Tír na nÓg CLG 2:30pm
ACFL DIV 2 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Eargnait CLGv  Naomh Seosamh CLG, Lann Abhaigh 2:30pm
ACFL DIV 2 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Muire CLG,Ros Earcain v Naomh Seamas CLG 2:30pm

Ernesto if you send me your email by PM ill email you all the league fixtures for the this year if you want.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 26, 2020, 12:44:08 PM
No Belfast teams in Reserve this year or have
games been called off? Hopefully games are not off because of county games, 40 players could be missing out over 1 or 2 players & this would be a poor way to start leagues. Can anyone shed any light on this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2020, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 26, 2020, 12:44:08 PM
No Belfast teams in Reserve this year or have
games been called off? Hopefully games are not off because of county games, 40 players could be missing out over 1 or 2 players & this would be a poor way to start leagues. Can anyone shed any light on this

None in Div 2 this year

Div 1 reserve has the following

ACFL Div 1 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Ciceam An Creagan v Ruairí Mhic Asmaint CLG 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Clan na hEireann Carraigín v Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Galláin 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Gort na Móna CLG, Béal Feirste v Naomh Muire CLG, Achadh Eochaille 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Bríd CLG, Béal Feirste v Naomh Gall CLG, Béal Feirste 1:00pm
ACFL Div 1 Res Sunday 1 March R01 Naomh Éanna CLG, Béal Feirste v Naomh Pól CLG, Béal Feirste
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2020, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 26, 2020, 12:44:08 PM
No Belfast teams in Reserve this year or have
games been called off? Hopefully games are not off because of county games, 40 players could be missing out over 1 or 2 players & this would be a poor way to start leagues. Can anyone shed any light on this
[/quote]

Maybe the club or the managers don't want to start the new season without their county player? And possibly their teams mates feel the same, just a thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 26, 2020, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing senior inter-county football make its debut in Portglenone on Sunday in a game that is simply must win at this stage round 5 of the league. Limerick are going well, unbeaten in four, and will pose a considerable threat. Glenavy are traditionally good supporters of the county team and although they might feel a bit aggrieved at losing the venue, I am sure that on this occasion they understand the rationale.

Hopefully Lenny starts with Michael McCann on Sunday – we NEED game management and leadership to go hand in hand with the youth and talent we already have throughout the next 3 games. U have ne info if Thomas McCann is ready to go yet BS?
Where do the U21's play tyrone this weekend? we ne chance of de-fying the odds again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 26, 2020, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing senior inter-county football make its debut in Portglenone on Sunday in a game that is simply must win at this stage round 5 of the league. Limerick are going well, unbeaten in four, and will pose a considerable threat. Glenavy are traditionally good supporters of the county team and although they might feel a bit aggrieved at losing the venue, I am sure that on this occasion they understand the rationale.

Why was it moved from Glenavy BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 26, 2020, 02:30:53 PM
I think we are at the stage that league Games should be played without county players but all clubs must have their count men for championship. can't have club players in long periods of no games because of county game ever growing demands
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2020, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 26, 2020, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing senior inter-county football make its debut in Portglenone on Sunday in a game that is simply must win at this stage round 5 of the league. Limerick are going well, unbeaten in four, and will pose a considerable threat. Glenavy are traditionally good supporters of the county team and although they might feel a bit aggrieved at losing the venue, I am sure that on this occasion they understand the rationale.

Hopefully Lenny starts with Michael McCann on Sunday – we NEED game management and leadership to go hand in hand with the youth and talent we already have throughout the next 3 games. U have ne info if Thomas McCann is ready to go yet BS?
Where do the U21's play tyrone this weekend? we ne chance of de-fying the odds again?

games fixed for Lavey on Sat for 2.30pm.

handy enough and a good pitch to watch a game at
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Lavey handy, good pitch and only half a dozen miles from here. Good luck to Hugh and the boys, its 70 minutes football and anything can happen.

Gs man the thinking behind the switch from Glenavy was straightforwardly on the basis that Glenavy pitch was heavy against Carlow and our hurlers reported good to firm conditions in Portglenone...as I forecasted! Theres no agenda at play except a better playing surface that's all. I'm sure Glenavy as the good football men that they are understand this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2020, 02:52:29 PM
I think that it is a bit optimistic to expect to see any game time from Tomas on Sunday. Hes put in a lot of work to recover from a recurring injury and isn't far away...but hasnt played any football for months and that's probably too big a risk in a game if this importance. I'd be thinking the last 15 against Wicklow might be a more realistic timeframe!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2020, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Lavey handy, good pitch and only half a dozen miles from here. Good luck to Hugh and the boys, its 70 minutes football and anything can happen.

Gs man the thinking behind the switch from Glenavy was straightforwardly on the basis that Glenavy pitch was heavy against Carlow and our hurlers reported good to firm conditions in Portglenone...as I forecasted! Theres no agenda at play except a better playing surface that's all. I'm sure Glenavy as the good football men that they are understand this.

pitch was in fantastic shape on sunday for the hurling. was on it at half time very briefly and it held up really well for 30mins hurling and the time of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2020, 03:58:56 PM
Cheers DR the grounds sub committee do a lot of work to keep it in good shape and the specification involved in its build included volumes of pipework stone and sand that the builder said at the time was the highest spec he had ever been commissioned to do. It's always a compliment to hear others appreciating this, albeit the club is now inundated with requests from far and near for training or matches (Cushendall & Slaughtneil in their all Ireland club preparations etc) when many other grounds are out of commission. The floodlights are also high spec too!  Definitely a big asset to Portglenone club having these facilities to use for their own preparations, coupled with the weights room now fully equipped too....mostly about preparing the next generation if the truth was told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on February 27, 2020, 10:48:39 AM
Be interesting to see the team on Sunday and the result.

Dermot Mclaeese seemed to be our best performer vs London and was hooked off at ht against Carlow - whats that about?

Eastwood saved our skin v Carlow will he start over paddy hands for the frees?

Feel antrim played with basically a double sweeper in ineffective - play a bit of football there is more than enough good runners and footballers on that team now. Not to many players missing off the panel now its do or die time on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 27, 2020, 11:11:22 AM
See the League games are now at 12 on Sunday, assume thats so they dont clash with the county game, only 2 div 2 games on and full card in div 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 27, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Lavey handy, good pitch and only half a dozen miles from here. Good luck to Hugh and the boys, its 70 minutes football and anything can happen.

Gs man the thinking behind the switch from Glenavy was straightforwardly on the basis that Glenavy pitch was heavy against Carlow and our hurlers reported good to firm conditions in Portglenone...as I forecasted! Theres no agenda at play except a better playing surface that's all. I'm sure Glenavy as the good football men that they are understand this.

Portglenone pitch was excellent last Sunday DR - very well organised and loads of yellow coats about to help.  Very well run.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on February 27, 2020, 08:41:58 PM
Div 2, Div 2 Reserve and Div 3 Fixtures now all live on the county website:
https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/acfl-div-2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 28, 2020, 06:40:28 AM
Youre obviously mistaking Marty 34s comments up with mine....of course I was at Glenavy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 28, 2020, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: marty34 on February 27, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Lavey handy, good pitch and only half a dozen miles from here. Good luck to Hugh and the boys, its 70 minutes football and anything can happen.

Gs man the thinking behind the switch from Glenavy was straightforwardly on the basis that Glenavy pitch was heavy against Carlow and our hurlers reported good to firm conditions in Portglenone...as I forecasted! Theres no agenda at play except a better playing surface that's all. I'm sure Glenavy as the good football men that they are understand this.

Portglenone pitch was excellent last Sunday DR - very well organised and loads of yellow coats about to help.  Very well run.

Really was. the intermediate football championship last year showed that its a perfect venue for hosting big games.

Next up BS is to get a wee terraced area built on the far side  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 28, 2020, 06:07:16 PM
PG1 & Glenavy are both super venues and I have enjoyed the recent games but both lack a covered stand. On back road from Ballymena to Belfast I see that there's a lot of digging going on. Are LD building a sneaky stand? to get games before Corrigan is ready.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 28, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 28, 2020, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: marty34 on February 27, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Lavey handy, good pitch and only half a dozen miles from here. Good luck to Hugh and the boys, its 70 minutes football and anything can happen.

Gs man the thinking behind the switch from Glenavy was straightforwardly on the basis that Glenavy pitch was heavy against Carlow and our hurlers reported good to firm conditions in Portglenone...as I forecasted! Theres no agenda at play except a better playing surface that's all. I'm sure Glenavy as the good football men that they are understand this.

Portglenone pitch was excellent last Sunday DR - very well organised and loads of yellow coats about to help.  Very well run.

Really was. the intermediate football championship last year showed that its a perfect venue for hosting big games.

Next up BS is to get a wee terraced area built on the far side  ;D

I'd say there is space on the far side - that's where I was. Narrow at corner but then it opens up - would make a nice bank/hill.

If possible a stand would be excellent.  Is that part of the club grounds behind the wire on that side BS? There's more ground outside the fence - seems to be part of club grounds???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 29, 2020, 12:15:46 AM
Casements are taking a bit of a breather from a gigantic fundraising effort a couple of years ago but the club would have ambition for a second phase development when they get a second wind. Amongst other priorities that includes a covered terrace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 29, 2020, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 28, 2020, 06:07:16 PM
PG1 & Glenavy are both super venues and I have enjoyed the recent games but both lack a covered stand. On back road from Ballymena to Belfast I see that there's a lot of digging going on. Are LD building a sneaky stand? to get games before Corrigan is ready.
think They are building new pitch not Stand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 29, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Our under 20s lost by 2 points to Tyrone but deserve a lot of credit for hanging in to the end, if anything finishing stronger than Tyrone. Not much between the teams just the class of a certain Darragh Canavan made the difference. Maybe we should have made more of the wind in the first half, but big shout out to all involved for a gutsy effort.

Sligo took points off Wexford today down there too....this league is the most competitive I've ever seen it, literally no match is a sure thing! All very much in our hands now. 2 points tomorrow and we are bang on schedule.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2020, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 29, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Our under 20s lost by 2 points to Tyrone but deserve a lot of credit for hanging in to the end, if anything finishing stronger than Tyrone. Not much between the teams just the class of a certain Darragh Canavan made the difference. Maybe we should have made more of the wind in the first half, but big shout out to all involved for a gutsy effort.

Sligo took points off Wexford today down there too....this league is the most competitive I've ever seen it, literally no match is a sure thing! All very much in our hands now. 2 points tomorrow and we are bang on schedule.

Going to be a huge game, Limerick are coming up for a win, I hope we come out of this with a win but Limerick are doing very well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 29, 2020, 10:58:52 PM
Unfortunately I won't be there tomorrow, due to an entirely avoidable fixture clash between south Antrim Feile fixtures and the county game.. Strange how we disadvantage ourselves on a regular basis. I do feel though that a win is in our grasp, that we can then set up an exciting finale to the league campaign.

The same applies to our hurlers - win tomorrow and we are effectively in league final. Wouldn't two wins just be the perfect Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 01, 2020, 05:21:13 PM
At Feile too. What a win ! Match report pleas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 02, 2020, 08:20:27 AM
Great performance yesterday. Good to see the lads working hard for each other and a bit of quality coming off the bench.

Well hosted by Portglanone. Seems to be a good venue option for these games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2020, 08:51:49 AM
Superb performance from our boys yesterday. Everyone stood tall to pull off a great result that's keeps our promotion hopes fully intact. There was everything to like about this display, at times we played superb football, but there was a hunger about it - you could see the boys really working hard all over the pitch. The subs all made an impact too, (what a score from Dermot Mc Aleese) there is proper competition for every starting jersey and even the match day panel. Feet on the ground warning, Wicklow away is not a given, but on yesterdays performance we will be hard to stop. Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
Very quiet here considering the excellent performance yesterday. The faster pitch definitely suited our style especially against such a huge team. Id be confident that we could have taken both points off Carlow too had that game also been at Portglenone but our thinking hats weren't on properly!

Some great individual performances too, Smiley Duffin puts in some shift, James Mc Auley looking good at six, and Odhran Eastwood full of confidence he is a real option up front now! Mick Mc Cann steadied the ship again when he entered the fray, looked like he hasn't been away! Good to see proper competition now for every jersey, that should lift the bar at training.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 02, 2020, 07:30:40 PM
Some days it all just clicks and it sounds like yesterday was such a day. I was sorry to have missed it but as usual the twitter updates and social media coverage were top drawer.

It's as tight a division as I remember but confidence should be high now. We have travelled to Wicklow and won a few times over the years and can do so again, that would set up a promotion clash on the last day just where we want it - at home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2020, 09:08:14 AM
having most of the best Players playing this year is making the difference i'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2020, 09:12:10 AM
its been a fantastic start in both codes for Antrim this year. a really good positive vibe and long may it continue.

It has been a long time since we have had such a good start to a season as Antrim supporters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2020, 09:28:38 AM
We now seem to have out best players available in both codes. It's been a long time since this has happened.

I was really pleased with both those results at the weekend. Hopefully we can build on them too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
yeah im the same. the hurlers go to Offaly this weekend with their fate in their own hands knowing a win will send us into the final v Kerry and Offaly need to win by more than 8 points to stop us.

the footballers have gotten out a seriously strong panel of players who are fighting for a shirt on the team rather than just been handed one.

good times
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 03, 2020, 11:14:11 AM
Great weekend past for Antrim.

Under 16 & 17 Footballer with wins over Armagh
Under 20's battling all the way with Tyrone and looking very capable at that level.
Hurlers with an excellent away result in Kerry
Footballers with a completely dominant display in Portglenone.

Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on March 03, 2020, 12:50:27 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 03, 2020, 11:14:11 AM
Great weekend past for Antrim.

Under 16 & 17 Footballer with wins over Armagh
Under 20's battling all the way with Tyrone and looking very capable at that level.
Hurlers with an excellent away result in Kerry
Footballers with a completely dominant display in Portglenone.

Long may it continue.

Agreed, one of the best weekends we have had in along time. Enjoyed Sundays game. V positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 03, 2020, 07:04:18 PM
Interesting stat...Tyrone didnt score from play in the under 20 match for 33mins. They did manage two excellent frees against the wind, but remarkably these were Tyrones only scores in the first half. Add that to the other excellent stat in the previous round where Derry didnt score at all for 42 minutes.

This makes pleasing reading, well done to Hugh and all involved in producing a most competitive team this year. Plus...its quite obvious that there is some quality emerging further down the conveyor belt. The future is indeed starting to look a bit brighter!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: lenny on March 03, 2020, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 03, 2020, 07:04:18 PM
Interesting stat...Tyrone didnt score from play in the under 20 match for 33mins. They did manage two excellent frees against the wind, but remarkably these were Tyrones only scores in the first half. Add that to the other excellent stat in the previous round where Derry didnt score at all for 42 minutes.

This makes pleasing reading, well done to Hugh and all involved in producing a most competitive team this year. Plus...its quite obvious that there is some quality emerging further down the conveyor belt. The future is indeed starting to look a bit brighter!

A lot of credit due to lenny harbinson also for his management of the senior team. That was a brilliant result v limerick who'd been looking good this season. Big score and a good spread of scorers but eastwood looks like a real talent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 03, 2020, 07:45:23 PM
Lenny does indeed deserve a lot of credit especially for altering his thinking in some key areas. The main one was to keep a larger panel than before and this results in not needing to wrap players up in cotton wool at training. It means players have to work harder for game minutes. Secondly he was much more proactive about getting certain players back in (some came others didnt...I know of at least two Cargin players who decided against it) and this definitely has got a number of supporters back. To facilitate this the sessions run a bit longer, like a double session gym and pitch, but this is only three times a week now instead of four or possibly five last year. That's made a difference too. Definitely things have been lifted a level this year and the results are starting to show that.

2 wins from promotion, that will be target achieved for the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 03, 2020, 10:01:59 PM
https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/309286
The geography of the school can be a bit confusing for the southern media !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 04, 2020, 10:58:54 AM
Yes - apologies, got that wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on March 04, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2020, 09:28:38 AM
We now seem to have out best players available in both codes. It's been a long time since this has happened.

I was really pleased with both those results at the weekend. Hopefully we can build on them too.

Certainly seems like a strong panel. If we also had a number of players who were on the panel in the past two seasons we could truly say its the best players out there e.g. Mark Sweeney, Fitzy, Patrick McCormick, Ryan Murray, Paddy McAleer.  I know they are all not available for valid reasons - but think how strong the 30 panel would be with those 5 added!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2020, 01:27:47 PM
Agree 100% with that. All quality players up there with the best in the county. Hopefully some of them will be back next year if not before!! Plus definitely a handful of under 20s arnt far from a place in the set up either. Hopefully if we can win these last two games in Div 4 there will be a strong panel available next year to consolidate that momentum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 04, 2020, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

And if they win and we have a few more Antrim players playing McCrory next year then happy days. With Brigids doing well in Antrim underage and Bredagh and Carryduff likewise in Down it was only a matter of time before a breakthrough was made in Knock (although I appreciate they have many Ards Hurlers so there's a split emphasis)

The U20s narrowly beaten by Tyrone the other day had a number of the Hogan Cup winning Lurgan team playing. Success breeds success and the more we have playing at that level the better

Great week for Antrim, tinged with sadness at a real one that got away v Tyrone U20s on Saturday

This Wicklow game is massive with them going for promotion too

Casements pitch is superb by the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

The Gaelfast coaches are never out of the place...  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gall the way on March 04, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

The Gaelfast coaches are never out of the place...  ;)


Guessing by your statement they aren't in there? Is it not a Down school? Would Down not bother doing something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on March 04, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

The Gaelfast coaches are never out of the place...  ;)


Guessing by your statement they aren't in there? Is it not a Down school? Would Down not bother doing something?

It's also a Belfast school and meant to be part of Gaelfast...

but you knew that anyway, didn't you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gall the way on March 05, 2020, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on March 04, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

The Gaelfast coaches are never out of the place...  ;)


Guessing by your statement they aren't in there? Is it not a Down school? Would Down not bother doing something?

It's also a Belfast school and meant to be part of Gaelfast...

but you knew that anyway, didn't you.

I know it's a Belfast school, but does that mean Down take a back seat and Antrim sort their clubs and schools in Belfast for them? I'd much rather Gaelfast looked after the Antrim schools and clubs. It was our own county board who secured the money after all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: Gall the way on March 05, 2020, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on March 04, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

The Gaelfast coaches are never out of the place...  ;)


Guessing by your statement they aren't in there? Is it not a Down school? Would Down not bother doing something?

It's also a Belfast school and meant to be part of Gaelfast...

but you knew that anyway, didn't you.

I know it's a Belfast school, but does that mean Down take a back seat and Antrim sort their clubs and schools in Belfast for them? I'd much rather Gaelfast looked after the Antrim schools and clubs. It was our own county board who secured the money after all.

Was it?

Have a wee read and see who co signed it.

Ref Collie Donnelly at its launch....

`This is a direct, hands-on approach which builds from the grass roots up and both  Antrim County Board & Down County Boards are delighted to be running the program and for the support which we have received from the GAA nationally, provincially and indeed from Belfast City Council.

https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched


Don't get me wrong Antrim CB were the main drivers in this and PD is doing a great job and fair play to him and his team, but reminding them of their initial objectives used to secure said funding does no harm.

Hope to see big Anton back down in the Ards this summer  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gall the way on March 05, 2020, 03:18:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: Gall the way on March 05, 2020, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 05, 2020, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on March 04, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 04, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
In slightly related news at the Dub tonight Our Lady's and St Pats Knock qualified for the McLarnon Cup final, beating St Pauls Dungannon by a point. The school is in Down but at least 6 of the team are St Brigids lads. Great achievement for the school under Frankie Wilson's management.

A Belfast team all the same

The Gaelfast coaches are never out of the place...  ;)


Guessing by your statement they aren't in there? Is it not a Down school? Would Down not bother doing something?

It's also a Belfast school and meant to be part of Gaelfast...

but you knew that anyway, didn't you.

I know it's a Belfast school, but does that mean Down take a back seat and Antrim sort their clubs and schools in Belfast for them? I'd much rather Gaelfast looked after the Antrim schools and clubs. It was our own county board who secured the money after all.

Was it?

Have a wee read and see who co signed it.

Ref Collie Donnelly at its launch....

`This is a direct, hands-on approach which builds from the grass roots up and both  Antrim County Board & Down County Boards are delighted to be running the program and for the support which we have received from the GAA nationally, provincially and indeed from Belfast City Council.

https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched


Don't get me wrong Antrim CB were the main drivers in this and PD is doing a great job and fair play to him and his team, but reminding them of their initial objectives used to secure said funding does no harm.

Hope to see big Anton back down in the Ards this summer  ;)

Fair point re the C Donnelly post. I stand corrected, I'd just hate to see resources thinned too much!
Unlucky on the guess though, big man's a good club mate of mine but we're not the same person lol, I'm a fair bit smaller than him and he isn't as good as I was  ;). I'll tell him you were asking for him. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 06, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Gaelfast just seems to be scatter gun - loads of good work but all over the show. while Its clear it is a Belfast and Antrim initiative i was dismayed to here PD in his speech to Croke Park conference, i viewed on gaelfast twitter, talk about Gaelfast training teachers in st marys training college to be gaa coaches in Belfast, Antrim and throughout the north of Ireland - so we are giving the ulster councils a boost now ! Jesus wept
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 06, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Gaelfast just seems to be scatter gun - loads of good work but all over the show. while Its clear it is a Belfast and Antrim initiative i was dismayed to here PD in his speech to Croke Park conference, i viewed on gaelfast twitter, talk about Gaelfast training teachers in st marys training college to be gaa coaches in Belfast, Antrim and throughout the north of Ireland - so we are giving the ulster councils a boost now ! Jesus wept

Jesus man, you really are a dark cloud on Gaelfast.... give it a chance, we won't see results today or tomorrow. It's like you've started an account on here to give off about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 06, 2020, 12:05:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 06, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Gaelfast just seems to be scatter gun - loads of good work but all over the show. while Its clear it is a Belfast and Antrim initiative i was dismayed to here PD in his speech to Croke Park conference, i viewed on gaelfast twitter, talk about Gaelfast training teachers in st marys training college to be gaa coaches in Belfast, Antrim and throughout the north of Ireland - so we are giving the ulster councils a boost now ! Jesus wept

Jesus man, you really are a dark cloud on Gaelfast.... give it a chance, we won't see results today or tomorrow. It's like you've started an account on here to give off about it
Its like u have started account here to be the county/gaelfast' yes man and to stop discussion and debate. I care about Gaelfast because its a massive opportunity but resources are being 'thinned' as a recent poster has mentioned.
If you don't like debate U attack the person - wise up and let debate flow. Gaelfast is a 5 out of 10 for me at the moment but needs to be more structured and still almost 2 years after appointment of the chief No issued plan for the clubs and volunteers to see and back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 06, 2020, 12:05:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 06, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Gaelfast just seems to be scatter gun - loads of good work but all over the show. while Its clear it is a Belfast and Antrim initiative i was dismayed to here PD in his speech to Croke Park conference, i viewed on gaelfast twitter, talk about Gaelfast training teachers in st marys training college to be gaa coaches in Belfast, Antrim and throughout the north of Ireland - so we are giving the ulster councils a boost now ! Jesus wept

Jesus man, you really are a dark cloud on Gaelfast.... give it a chance, we won't see results today or tomorrow. It's like you've started an account on here to give off about it
Its like u have started account here to be the county/gaelfast' yes man and to stop discussion and debate. I care about Gaelfast because its a massive opportunity but resources are being 'thinned' as a recent poster has mentioned.
If you don't like debate U attack the person - wise up and let debate flow. Gaelfast is a 5 out of 10 for me at the moment but needs to be more structured and still almost 2 years after appointment of the chief No issued plan for the clubs and volunteers to see and back.

If you want to view my posts over the years about the county then go ahead, they've been colourful to the point of cheering on Donegal over us! Ive been pulled many a time over my views personally as I don't hide, nor should I. I've no business with the county board either, so no loyalties.

What I have come to understand though is that the difficulties CB's are under. And that is through actual debate face to face with ones within that sector.

Now its all well and good to 'say' you do this and you do that but no one knows you or what axe you have to grind but I feel your expectations are way to high after 18 months or so plus the actual budget Gaelfast has to work with.. With the name of the venture, its for Belfast, if there are schools within Belfast that will get benefit from this and they are in Co. Down then that's ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 06, 2020, 03:16:27 PM
Gaelfast is an exciting initiative in theory and no doubt has many challenges to overcome. Some valid comments in recent posts but I would have to say that I am currently underwhelmed. 18 months in and I have no idea how effective it is or what the clearly defined goals are. The lack of a specific plan to guage progress is not good, should we not be able to see an uplift in participation levels, what are the benchmarks, is Belfast the primary target etc.
I'm of the opinion that if something is not measured then its not managed. Lots of positive social media posts won't convince me of Gaelfasts validity or longevity.  Let's open the debate and encourage those in the know to update us accordingly so we can fully back and support the project. We all want Antrim to improve but we can only rally round the flag if we can understand cause
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 06, 2020, 03:16:27 PM
Gaelfast is an exciting initiative in theory and no doubt has many challenges to overcome. Some valid comments in recent posts but I would have to say that I am currently underwhelmed. 18 months in and I have no idea how effective it is or what the clearly defined goals are. The lack of a specific plan to guage progress is not good, should we not be able to see an uplift in participation levels, what are the benchmarks, is Belfast the primary target etc.
I'm of the opinion that if something is not measured then its not managed. Lots of positive social media posts won't convince me of Gaelfasts validity or longevity.  Let's open the debate and encourage those in the know to update us accordingly so we can fully back and support the project. We all want Antrim to improve but we can only rally round the flag if we can understand cause

How long is the funding for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 06, 2020, 06:15:34 PM
Gaelfast', a  Five Year Plan to promote Gaelic games in schools across Belfast unveiled today
• Specialist GAA Coaching opportunities for Belfast Schools
• In excess of £1m funding for the initiative

A plan to strengthen and promote Gaelic games across Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 09:30:50 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 06, 2020, 06:15:34 PM
Gaelfast', a  Five Year Plan to promote Gaelic games in schools across Belfast unveiled today
• Specialist GAA Coaching opportunities for Belfast Schools
• In excess of £1m funding for the initiative

A plan to strengthen and promote Gaelic games across Belfast

So after 18 months into a five year budget of just 1 million quid you're disappointed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 06, 2020, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2020, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 06, 2020, 03:16:27 PM
Gaelfast is an exciting initiative in theory and no doubt has many challenges to overcome. Some valid comments in recent posts but I would have to say that I am currently underwhelmed. 18 months in and I have no idea how effective it is or what the clearly defined goals are. The lack of a specific plan to guage progress is not good, should we not be able to see an uplift in participation levels, what are the benchmarks, is Belfast the primary target etc.
I'm of the opinion that if something is not measured then its not managed. Lots of positive social media posts won't convince me of Gaelfasts validity or longevity.  Let's open the debate and encourage those in the know to update us accordingly so we can fully back and support the project. We all want Antrim to improve but we can only rally round the flag if we can understand cause

How long is the funding for?



Gaelfast led by PD  is miles ahead of any organisation on Antrim in monitoring and measuring the impact of their work.
They audit and evaluate the impact of everything they are doing.

The impact of their work in schools , does not correlate to an immediate up turn in attendance at clubs, that is down to clubs linking effectively Into their feeder schools.That takes time.

It is a benefit to everyone , if the student teachers are trained to coach gaelic games properly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2020, 04:49:11 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nvtv.co.uk/shows/take-your-points-the-gaa-show-19-06-03-2020/&ved=2ahUKEwipivn344joAhVNSsAKHV1NAbgQhlR6BAgDEBE&usg=AOvVaw3kcByQcak7htZK9AVRUh6-


A well articulated insight from Paddy Cunningham about his return to the county panel. He goes a long way to praise the professionalism of the current set up. Hopefully a win against Wicklow takes us closer to finally getting out of the basement division and a well deserved match at Croke Pk where Paddy can sign off in style on the national stage.

Emphasis on the word hopefully. Wicklow will be a firm test for us in one week. We need to be 100% right for this mentally...Paddy has seen one or two of these opportunities slip over the years himself...nothing less than a very good performance will get the job done down there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2020, 08:42:19 PM
Antrim getting a bit of decent PR for a change, Cahal Carville in the above interview waxing lyrical about Antrims PR guru Sean Kelly. Maybe, just maybe we are starting to win over some hearts and minds. If our footballers and hurlers win their games this weekend coming there will be a vibe of the positive kind not seen for a good few years! Meanwhile....another feet on the ground alert, Wicklow nor Kerry will roll over easily.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: Peter john on March 09, 2020, 10:43:50 PM
All fun and games in the Bearpit yesterday,they definitely weren't shaking hands lol

First match and I'd say teams are ready to 'get to know you' early on, so da speak, Moneyglass that bit sharper and fitter, surprised and glad the county allowed its players to play for their clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2020, 07:07:52 AM
I remember seeing those two play sevens years ago and it was messy. They really don't like each other!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2020, 07:07:52 AM
I remember seeing those two play sevens years ago and it was messy. They really don't like each other!

Was that the Glenravel tournament? Remember that myself..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2020, 09:11:07 AM
The very one. It got pretty brutal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2020, 09:23:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2020, 09:11:07 AM
The very one. It got pretty brutal.

It did get brutal. Really shocking stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 10, 2020, 03:18:53 PM
Long time ago that one, would have had no bearing on Sundays game or on these sets of players. MR2 was close enough to judge and his evaluation of early season getting to know each other would be pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2020, 10:23:02 PM
Heard a rumour this evening that the fixtures folk are seriously considering the games this weekend due to the coronavirus.. Key word here being rumour!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2020, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 10, 2020, 03:18:53 PM
Long time ago that one, would have had no bearing on Sundays game or on these sets of players. MR2 was close enough to judge and his evaluation of early season getting to know each other would be pretty accurate.

Who said it would of had a bearing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 10, 2020, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2020, 10:23:02 PM
Heard a rumour this evening that the fixtures folk are seriously considering the games this weekend due to the coronavirus.. Key word here being rumour!!

CCC have offered clubs opportunity to move matches to  Sat, to allow members to attend  inter county games on Sun !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 12, 2020, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 10, 2020, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2020, 10:23:02 PM
Heard a rumour this evening that the fixtures folk are seriously considering the games this weekend due to the coronavirus.. Key word here being rumour!!

CCC have offered clubs opportunity to move matches to  Sat, to allow members to attend  inter county games on Sun !

All GAA units and club activities in Antrim are suspended from tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 12, 2020, 01:49:44 PM
Dunloy has followed suit and all training etc is cancelled from this moment.

A bit of sense at last and good to see ireland proactive whereas over the water they dither away at stopping this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2020, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 12, 2020, 01:49:44 PM
Dunloy has followed suit and all training etc is cancelled from this moment.

A bit of sense at last and good to see ireland proactive whereas over the water they dither away at stopping this.

sure we stopped everything last week ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2020, 02:11:49 PM
Quote from: Peter john on March 12, 2020, 02:05:56 PM
NFL fixtures going ahead, but county chair thinks hold on a minute let me be the first to stop all activities, just like the player welfare stunt at the dub in the championship,all about his profile, its a serious problem dont get me wrong but really its all about him

I don't think we need to get you wrong, he has simply taken the most appropriate and sensible position to take give the current circumstances.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 12, 2020, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: Peter john on March 12, 2020, 02:05:56 PM
NFL fixtures going ahead, but county chair thinks hold on a minute let me be the first to stop all activities, just like the player welfare stunt at the dub in the championship,all about his profile, its a serious problem dont get me wrong but really its all about him

Jaysus man, the country is going into lockdown but you're getting a dig in at the county chair.   ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 12, 2020, 02:28:09 PM
Same thing announced in Derry today too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 12, 2020, 02:28:09 PM
Same thing announced in Derry today too.

And Down.

Proper action.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 12, 2020, 02:53:18 PM
ALL GAA UNITS AND ACTIVITIES SHUT DOWN TO 29TH MARCH THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 12, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 12, 2020, 02:28:09 PM
Same thing announced in Derry today too.

And Down.

Proper action.

It's our county chairman's ego though...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 12, 2020, 04:55:47 PM
Quote from: Peter john on March 12, 2020, 02:05:56 PM
NFL fixtures going ahead, but county chair thinks hold on a minute let me be the first to stop all activities, just like the player welfare stunt at the dub in the championship,all about his profile, its a serious problem dont get me wrong but really its all about him

Wise up ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2020, 07:58:58 PM
he didn't have a choice - ironic though schools are open with kids in greater numbers than would be at our training sessions and matches. As usual the 6 counties an after Thought when Dublin GAA make their decisions!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2020, 09:27:01 PM
It's not the Gaa's fault we're not closing our schools up here Dublin or otherwise. What should they do? Leave everything on because the uk government won't shut schools?

Comment makes as much sense as blaming the Antrim chairman for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2020, 09:46:53 PM
No one wants a United Ireland more than me But reality is we r one sporting organization in the 6 counties banning activity when everyone else is playing away ... pissing in the wind comes to
Mind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2020, 09:53:35 PM
So just carry on in the six counties and never mind the rest? The schools will shut soon enough and the Gaa have done the right thing here. Pissing in the wind or not it's a responsible decision. Every little will hopefully help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 13, 2020, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2020, 09:46:53 PM
No one wants a United Ireland more than me But reality is we r one sporting organization in the 6 counties banning activity when everyone else is playing away ... pissing in the wind comes to
Mind

rugby and soccer (SBYL anyway) all stopped as well.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2020, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2020, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2020, 09:46:53 PM
No one wants a United Ireland more than me But reality is we r one sporting organization in the 6 counties banning activity when everyone else is playing away ... pissing in the wind comes to
Mind

rugby and soccer (SBYL anyway) all stopped as well.
Crazy time all Right - the advice in the free state is gatherings of up to 100 ok iNdoors and 500 outdoors - GAA on solo run here imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Favourite club championship game in the last 20 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2020, 08:50:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Favourite club championship game in the last 20 years?

10 years ago today, Croke Park  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 17, 2020, 11:06:49 AM
PG1 v LD under ligts at Queens - drama unbelievable and free takers B...s of steel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
Assuming it involves Antrim clubs PJ.

Biased... but I was on the line in 2009 when PGI beat Creggan by a point. Paul and Brian Mc Iver were preparing Creggan and we nipped them with a majestic Tony Convery point in the last minute of a cliffhanger.

Allowed a couple of answers? The match at the Dub as mentioned above will be hard to top...it had the lot!

But the greatest...St Galls beating Nemo in Portlaoise in the All Ireland Semi. Cork had 9 Cork senior panellists and St Galls held them scoreless from play for 40 minutes.  We wont see a performance like that again from an Antrim club team in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2020, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 17, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
Assuming it involves Antrim clubs PJ.

Biased... but I was on the line in 2009 when PGI beat Creggan by a point. Paul and Brian Mc Iver were preparing Creggan and we nipped them with a majestic Tony Convery point in the last minute of a cliffhanger.

Allowed a couple of answers? The match at the Dub as mentioned above will be hard to top...it had the lot!

But the greatest...St Galls beating Nemo in Portlaoise in the All Ireland Semi. Cork had 9 Cork senior panellists and St Galls held them scoreless from play for 40 minutes.  We wont see a performance like that again from an Antrim club team in my lifetime.

Yeah the match at Portlaois was something else! The cheeky feckers dandered into hotel for brunch! They got a lovely welcome  ;D  that was Rafferty at his best. No hotel for our lads they stayed at priest lodgings had mass that morning! Made a good few bob that day in the bookies, they had us at 6/1 or something more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 17, 2020, 03:42:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 17, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
Assuming it involves Antrim clubs PJ.

Biased... but I was on the line in 2009 when PGI beat Creggan by a point. Paul and Brian Mc Iver were preparing Creggan and we nipped them with a majestic Tony Convery point in the last minute of a cliffhanger.

Allowed a couple of answers? The match at the Dub as mentioned above will be hard to top...it had the lot!

But the greatest...St Galls beating Nemo in Portlaoise in the All Ireland Semi. Cork had 9 Cork senior panellists and St Galls held them scoreless from play for 40 minutes.  We wont see a performance like that again from an Antrim club team in my lifetime.

Antrim clubs yeah..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2020, 04:09:25 PM
The semi final a couple of years ago when Tomas scored that goal past about 44 blue jerseys is hard to beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2020, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2020, 04:09:25 PM
The semi final a couple of years ago when Tomas scored that goal past about 44 blue jerseys is hard to beat

Was a classic, though I was eating dinner at Zen that night. They are a great team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.


That breakthrough team reminds me so much of our team of the 2000, great mix of kids coming through with that older heads for experience! Great times and an exciting team to watch, not so much when playing against them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 19, 2020, 01:50:50 PM
i was at quite a few of the ulster games for st galls, st pauls, cargin etc over the years and you got to see some fantastic club sides in action.

But it was a great time to be following the team. yes there was the disappointment of not winning the All ireland through that period but its a time you would never have swooped for the journeys, matches, venues, nights away etc.

we have had a good run at underage for a while which has fed into the current senior team but its just a time game to see if it will reap the rewards again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 19, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.


That breakthrough team reminds me so much of our team of the 2000, great mix of kids coming through with that older heads for experience! Great times and an exciting team to watch, not so much when playing against them!

Isn't that the truth. Some fine hurlers on that team and they played as a team.

Your heart always sank when Nigel Elliott trotted out to midfield and the corner back was sent with him and you standing in an acre of space with Ally Elliott or Greg O'Kane for company and Pappy pinging the ball straight to them no matter what you tried to do.
Chastening experience I can tell you.

They deserved an AI but alas it wasn't to be. Great time over a long duration.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 19, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.


That breakthrough team reminds me so much of our team of the 2000, great mix of kids coming through with that older heads for experience! Great times and an exciting team to watch, not so much when playing against them!

Isn't that the truth. Some fine hurlers on that team and they played as a team.

Your heart always sank when Nigel Elliott trotted out to midfield and the corner back was sent with him and you standing in an acre of space with Ally Elliott or Greg O'Kane for company and Pappy pinging the ball straight to them no matter what you tried to do.
Chastening experience I can tell you.

They deserved an AI but alas it wasn't to be. Great time over a long duration.

;D i used to feel sorry for anyone having to mark Ally as he was that good. took serious punishment in his day from defenders but he never let it phase him.

I mind Gerard McGratten bursting onto the scene for Down with the helmet strap hanging loose and all us in training and matches wanting to copy him! lol ourselves and Ballygalget and Ballycran had some serious tussles over that period of time so much so that you knew that going into those grounds you were lucky to get a result.

think i remember us robbing Ballygalget in Corrigan one day in a semi final. no idea what year it was mind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 19, 2020, 07:16:22 PM
Who do we think will Be the football team of the next 5 years

- Cargin - more to come
- St Brides - 2 x u21 titles I think
- PG1 - young team
- Aghagallon - younger team with a few showing well for county
..................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 07:42:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 19, 2020, 07:16:22 PM
Who do we think will Be the football team of the next 5 years

- Cargin - more to come
- St Brides - 2 x u21 titles I think
- PG1 - young team
- Aghagallon - younger team with a few showing well for county
..................

Cargin, minor champions and history

No tradition with the rest, so they could win the odd one here and there between them but these titles generally go with your 'bigger' teams.

You only have to look at the figures for previous 40 years? The Ports got to a few finals but came up short, new team now, Rossa might come good again, the Johnnies not great last year but will bounce back no doubt. Cargin still very hungry and not ageing as quick as people think. Lamhs will have felt very disappointed in themselves and will be close again.

Prediction. No winners this year! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2020, 09:23:16 AM
i put nothing into winning senior titles with minor titles. we have 2 of them in recent years but it wont translate into a senior/intermediate title.

the potential is there with what we had with the U21s but with the hurling being a stronger game it will always mean that football is a second code for them.

If we put our strongest 15 on the pitch id be more than confident of us holding our own in Div 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.


That breakthrough team reminds me so much of our team of the 2000, great mix of kids coming through with that older heads for experience! Great times and an exciting team to watch, not so much when playing against them!

Isn't that the truth. Some fine hurlers on that team and they played as a team.

Your heart always sank when Nigel Elliott trotted out to midfield and the corner back was sent with him and you standing in an acre of space with Ally Elliott or Greg O'Kane for company and Pappy pinging the ball straight to them no matter what you tried to do.
Chastening experience I can tell you.

They deserved an AI but alas it wasn't to be. Great time over a long duration.

;D i used to feel sorry for anyone having to mark Ally as he was that good. took serious punishment in his day from defenders but he never let it phase him.

I mind Gerard McGratten bursting onto the scene for Down with the helmet strap hanging loose and all us in training and matches wanting to copy him! lol ourselves and Ballygalget and Ballycran had some serious tussles over that period of time so much so that you knew that going into those grounds you were lucky to get a result.

think i remember us robbing Ballygalget in Corrigan one day in a semi final. no idea what year it was mind

That was 93 or 94.

We'd lost a few lads to suspension in the Down final and were that stuck that Graham ended up coming out of goals and was put in corner forward and put over two fantastic points in a matter of minutes still with his keepers hurl. Graham was a flying machine back in his day.

We couldn't close it out that day and were made pay by a team who knew how to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2020, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.


That breakthrough team reminds me so much of our team of the 2000, great mix of kids coming through with that older heads for experience! Great times and an exciting team to watch, not so much when playing against them!

Isn't that the truth. Some fine hurlers on that team and they played as a team.

Your heart always sank when Nigel Elliott trotted out to midfield and the corner back was sent with him and you standing in an acre of space with Ally Elliott or Greg O'Kane for company and Pappy pinging the ball straight to them no matter what you tried to do.
Chastening experience I can tell you.

They deserved an AI but alas it wasn't to be. Great time over a long duration.

;D i used to feel sorry for anyone having to mark Ally as he was that good. took serious punishment in his day from defenders but he never let it phase him.

I mind Gerard McGratten bursting onto the scene for Down with the helmet strap hanging loose and all us in training and matches wanting to copy him! lol ourselves and Ballygalget and Ballycran had some serious tussles over that period of time so much so that you knew that going into those grounds you were lucky to get a result.

think i remember us robbing Ballygalget in Corrigan one day in a semi final. no idea what year it was mind

That was 93 or 94.

We'd lost a few lads to suspension in the Down final and were that stuck that Graham ended up coming out of goals and was put in corner forward and put over two fantastic points in a matter of minutes still with his keepers hurl. Graham was a flying machine back in his day.

We couldn't close it out that day and were made pay by a team who knew how to win.

yeah it was around that time we played you. i def mind the old stand was still there and we literally stole the game.

1990 we played in the final at casement and there was a fella playing corner forward with really long hair. cannot mind his name at all for the life of me.Would you rem who he was JC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 20, 2020, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2020, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
our first hurling championship win in 1990. i was only 13 at the time so didn't really full appreciate what it meant to the older people around me and how much the club desperately wanted to win it.

i was lucky enough to have been to every game that year right up to the All Ireland semi final against Glenmore in Nolan Park and witnessed that first piece of history and therein the next lot of years and the success it brought.


That breakthrough team reminds me so much of our team of the 2000, great mix of kids coming through with that older heads for experience! Great times and an exciting team to watch, not so much when playing against them!

Isn't that the truth. Some fine hurlers on that team and they played as a team.

Your heart always sank when Nigel Elliott trotted out to midfield and the corner back was sent with him and you standing in an acre of space with Ally Elliott or Greg O'Kane for company and Pappy pinging the ball straight to them no matter what you tried to do.
Chastening experience I can tell you.

They deserved an AI but alas it wasn't to be. Great time over a long duration.

;D i used to feel sorry for anyone having to mark Ally as he was that good. took serious punishment in his day from defenders but he never let it phase him.

I mind Gerard McGratten bursting onto the scene for Down with the helmet strap hanging loose and all us in training and matches wanting to copy him! lol ourselves and Ballygalget and Ballycran had some serious tussles over that period of time so much so that you knew that going into those grounds you were lucky to get a result.

think i remember us robbing Ballygalget in Corrigan one day in a semi final. no idea what year it was mind

That was 93 or 94.

We'd lost a few lads to suspension in the Down final and were that stuck that Graham ended up coming out of goals and was put in corner forward and put over two fantastic points in a matter of minutes still with his keepers hurl. Graham was a flying machine back in his day.

We couldn't close it out that day and were made pay by a team who knew how to win.

yeah it was around that time we played you. i def mind the old stand was still there and we literally stole the game.

1990 we played in the final at casement and there was a fella playing corner forward with really long hair. cannot mind his name at all for the life of me.Would you rem who he was JC?

Probably Philbin Savage.

Having long hair was the default setting back then  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 11:32:24 AM
JC you're way older than I thought you were lol

Yeah those were good times hurling wise. Even our county teams were doing pretty well. I really enjoyed the league games back then when we were able to give a lot of teams a real rattle in casement and beat a lot of them bar them Tipp so and sos who we nearly beat bar Bobby Ryan lifting the ball and putting off our penalty taker in casement that time >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 12:09:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 11:32:24 AM
JC you're way older than I thought you were lol

Yeah those were good times hurling wise. Even our county teams were doing pretty well. I really enjoyed the league games back then when we were able to give a lot of teams a real rattle in casement and beat a lot of them bar them Tipp so and sos who we nearly beat bar Bobby Ryan lifting the ball and putting off our penalty taker in casement that time >:(

I was only a young cub back then and thrown in at the deep end against men with hairy arms and legs that I'd never seen the likes off before  ;D
Brian Donnellys arms were thicker than my legs FFS.

We'd Tipp on the rack in Ballycran back in the day until a certain Nicky English went and told Babs Keating to put him on, the hoor came on in the last few minutes and scored 1-2..
Sean McGuinness then went and started a row in the Tipp changing room after the game over something Declan Carr had put in the papers at the time about setting up a special province for the likes of Antrim and Down and other lesser counties rather than give them a semi-final slot.
Cork we could never work with either. Kilkenny we'd beat in Nowlan park, Offaly a few times during those years, Clare once, and got close to Limerick in 96 in the Athletic Grounds and they went on to get to the AI final. Beating the likes of Laois, Dublin, Westmeath, Carlow and Kerry were a given back then...

Antrim may get back there but I can't see Down ever doing it again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 12:17:52 PM
Actually I think we beat Tipp in Cushendall this century.

Sounds like u14s when I fist started as a 12 year old and some boys came out to mark you with moustaches before I even knew what facial hair looked like ;D

Dunno if either of us will get back there but we can only hope. The gap is widening.

We have never been able to work with Cork or Limerick. Limerick especially. We should have beat waterford one day in casement(and may have beat them I can't recall) but the ref needed a few guards round him to get off the field he was that bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2020, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 12:17:52 PM
Actually I think we beat Tipp in Cushendall this century.

Sounds like u14s when I fist started as a 12 year old and some boys came out to mark you with moustaches before I even knew what facial hair looked like ;D

Dunno if either of us will get back there but we can only hope. The gap is widening.

We have never been able to work with Cork or Limerick. Limerick especially. We should have beat waterford one day in casement(and may have beat them I can't recall) but the ref needed a few guards round him to get off the field he was that bad.

;D ;D ;D ;D when i was playing st pauls were the best team in the city. Kieran Killyleagh, the gamble brothers, Joe quinn were all playing then. i was only like a skinny wain and these lads were massive, all with facial hair when they were last year of u16 and me still and u14 with no pubes! lol

never understood how st pauls didnt translate that into senior success in the hurling as they were very good at underage level. football wise they did but not in hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 01:44:20 PM
It was a couple of your boys I was referring to DR  ;D Ernie was a fully grown man by about 13 lol

Yeah St Pauls had some real good ones. Not sure Quinn played hurling at senior level if you're referring to them. The Gambles never seemed to play as much.

On another st pauls note that Ó Caireallain family seem very successful and were very handy hurlers too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2020, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 01:44:20 PM
It was a couple of your boys I was referring to DR  ;D Ernie was a fully grown man by about 13 lol

Yeah St Pauls had some real good ones. Not sure Quinn played hurling at senior level if you're referring to them. The Gambles never seemed to play as much.

On another st pauls note that Ó Caireallain family seem very successful and were very handy hurlers too.

;D aye now he was always alot bigger than all of us at that stage.

they all played around U14, 16 and minor. towards U21 time they didnt play anymore. i rem marking Joe when i was still an U16 in a Minor championship match up in Dunloy. he was bloody massive compared to me. lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 02:00:11 PM
I remember reading the pen pictures for the minor football final when st pauls played stinsons. The biggest other player would probably have been about 10.5 or 11 stone and Joe Quinn was listed as 13.5 lol He was huge. (I actually think he might have missed that final with a knee injury IIRC).

(Logan may have bene that big too but he was probably about 13 or 14 at that time I think).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 20, 2020, 02:18:56 PM
that St Pauls team of the 90s was some Team - Finnegans,Donnellys, MCerlain, Kennedy, Mulvenna, McGreevy etc . Think a lot of their kids though have played for St Brides which hasn't helped St Pauls in recent years. I suppose the chaps weren't in existence in the 1990s so fair enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2020, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 02:00:11 PM
I remember reading the pen pictures for the minor football final when st pauls played stinsons. The biggest other player would probably have been about 10.5 or 11 stone and Joe Quinn was listed as 13.5 lol He was huge. (I actually think he might have missed that final with a knee injury IIRC).

(Logan may have bene that big too but he was probably about 13 or 14 at that time I think).

aye joe was very big for his age. he was like 3 stone heavier than me at that time lol to be fair he was dead on as hell to play against.

Paddy Logan was a big fella as well. same as Tony Convery too at that time. Stensions were a solid team of lads who had plenty of sucess at that time. they beat us in the minor final i think in 98 was it? the younger brother was playing in it that day in casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 04:13:45 PM
Ai Joe Quinn was strong as an ox but no dirt in him. I thought your strong minor teams were pre 98 but can't recall exactly - if I were to guess I would say 96. I can't find a wiki or anything with years for who won the minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2020, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 04:13:45 PM
Ai Joe Quinn was strong as an ox but no dirt in him. I thought your strong minor teams were pre 98 but can't recall exactly - if I were to guess I would say 96. I can't find a wiki or anything with years for who won the minors.

We got to the minor football final in 88, beat by Lamhs in the final, think they had lost a couple of finals in a row during that time or leading up to it, they backboned the team that 'won' a senior championship a few years later.

But Dunloy nearly beat us in the first round that year, was a tough match down in Dunloy, they had all those flipping great hurlers on the team and we just hung on, our bus had broke down before we even left our clubhouse so we ended up getting taxis down to Dunloy! was mental thinking back. I was a 16 year old half back on that team and couldn't tell ya who I was marking but he was quick!

The majority of that team went on to win their first senior hurling title in 1990!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 04:34:53 PM
Dunloy have had some great footballers over the years but they mainly stuck to the hurling. You can always see it in the minors when they have the ability to commit to both they are as good as is about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 21, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
Must b very frustrating for boys from Dunloy who pefer football...or do they not exist????????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 22, 2020, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 21, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
Must b very frustrating for boys from Dunloy who pefer football...or do they not exist????????????

they do to be fair. Conor Kinsella, Seaan Elliott, Deaglan Smith, Anton McGrath, Callum Scullion etc all love playing football and they are all in the senior hurling panel. the likes of Conal Gillan, Karl Fitzpatrick etc are all very commited footballers only but we also have a very strong soccer team here in Dunloy that are top of the Ballymena Intermediate league over teams like Glebe Rangers, Belfast Celtic, Ballymoney United etc and are wanting to push into the Irish league so its taking lads away.

the problem is that hurling is just more poplar a sport in Dunloy. Football is a second game for many and its very hard to watch at times. we have lots of good committed football people in the club and players but its always going to be second fiddle.

To put it in context, we have 2 U14 hurling teams at A & B grade and only one U14 football team. Football just isnt a good game to spectate at is the bother and the younger ones prefer the pace and intensity of the hurling over it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 22, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 22, 2020, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 21, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
Must b very frustrating for boys from Dunloy who pefer football...or do they not exist????????????

they do to be fair. Conor Kinsella, Seaan Elliott, Deaglan Smith, Anton McGrath, Callum Scullion etc all love playing football and they are all in the senior hurling panel. the likes of Conal Gillan, Karl Fitzpatrick etc are all very commited footballers only but we also have a very strong soccer team here in Dunloy that are top of the Ballymena Intermediate league over teams like Glebe Rangers, Belfast Celtic, Ballymoney United etc and are wanting to push into the Irish league so its taking lads away.

the problem is that hurling is just more poplar a sport in Dunloy. Football is a second game for many and its very hard to watch at times. we have lots of good committed football people in the club and players but its always going to be second fiddle.

To put it in context, we have 2 U14 hurling teams at A & B grade and only one U14 football team. Football just isnt a good game to spectate at is the bother and the younger ones prefer the pace and intensity of the hurling over it.

But them dual skills will always be a benefit to the hurlers. The more sport they play, when kids are young, the better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2020, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 22, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 22, 2020, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 21, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
Must b very frustrating for boys from Dunloy who pefer football...or do they not exist????????????

they do to be fair. Conor Kinsella, Seaan Elliott, Deaglan Smith, Anton McGrath, Callum Scullion etc all love playing football and they are all in the senior hurling panel. the likes of Conal Gillan, Karl Fitzpatrick etc are all very commited footballers only but we also have a very strong soccer team here in Dunloy that are top of the Ballymena Intermediate league over teams like Glebe Rangers, Belfast Celtic, Ballymoney United etc and are wanting to push into the Irish league so its taking lads away.

the problem is that hurling is just more poplar a sport in Dunloy. Football is a second game for many and its very hard to watch at times. we have lots of good committed football people in the club and players but its always going to be second fiddle.

To put it in context, we have 2 U14 hurling teams at A & B grade and only one U14 football team. Football just isnt a good game to spectate at is the bother and the younger ones prefer the pace and intensity of the hurling over it.

But them dual skills will always be a benefit to the hurlers. The more sport they play, when kids are young, the better.

id def agree with you on that. There seemed to be an attitude last season in the club that they needed to be hurling first and foremost and the football could be done without.

all blown out of the water when we played Sneill who play both successfully and they beat us well. they were bigger, stronger and more physical in most positions.

Id prefer our lads to be playing both but it is a hard balancing act esp when we have so many lads now hurling county as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 23, 2020, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 04:13:45 PM
Ai Joe Quinn was strong as an ox but no dirt in him. I thought your strong minor teams were pre 98 but can't recall exactly - if I were to guess I would say 96. I can't find a wiki or anything with years for who won the minors.

Yep - the Stinsons v Dunloy minor final was 96
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2020, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on March 23, 2020, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2020, 04:13:45 PM
Ai Joe Quinn was strong as an ox but no dirt in him. I thought your strong minor teams were pre 98 but can't recall exactly - if I were to guess I would say 96. I can't find a wiki or anything with years for who won the minors.

Yep - the Stinsons v Dunloy minor final was 96

good game between the sides but your lads had a bit more than us over the 15. i used to have a video of the game years ago but lost it after lending it to someone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 23, 2020, 08:25:40 PM
Was down walking the dog at the weekend at Musgrave and St Brides have done some job with the 2 pitches now - anyone know if they own the pitches outright Or do the council? the Changing rooms look like the same as Woodlands which is council...
No matches to Discuss!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2020, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 23, 2020, 08:25:40 PM
Was down walking the dog at the weekend at Musgrave and St Brides have done some job with the 2 pitches now - anyone know if they own the pitches outright Or do the council? the Changing rooms look like the same as Woodlands which is council...
No matches to Discuss!!!

I think the council still look after the grounds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2020, 06:01:32 PM
same for us, its not a real source of income. we are thinking of ditching our licence to go for the lesser one of 12 or so days you can use it.

Our income was the lotto, club draw, academy and gym. All of them are now gone and we have only the Club Dunloy money coming in. tis scary times for the clubs.

Interesting question. We have all paid our insurances for the GAA, LGFA and Camogie association - if no games are played will anything get returned or will it be a case of thousands of pounds lost to insurance companies.

The camogie association asked - sorry demands -£350 up front before you can even register a player for your club. again if no games are played do clubs get it back?

I cant see any league games ever being played this year, championship at a push, but the reality is we could see a full wipe out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 25, 2020, 08:44:30 PM
Hard times ahead indeed for the clubs, on the plus side UK Gov grants etc may be available, we can postpone club fees and insurance to Croker. If we all save money wisely the paid club managers in SW will still get 80% of their salary while on furlough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
i know what u mean but the General fundraising goes on around bar in r club. Surely the clubs won't have to pay the same amount of fees and insurance this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
i know what u mean but the General fundraising goes on around bar in r club. Surely the clubs won't have to pay the same amount of fees and insurance this year?

Was there not an email out there recently for clubs about this from Croke?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 25, 2020, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
i know what u mean but the General fundraising goes on around bar in r club. Surely the clubs won't have to pay the same amount of fees and insurance this year?

Was there not an email out there reciting clubs about this from Croke?

Clubs have already paid Player Injury fund fees to croke park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 26, 2020, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 25, 2020, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
i know what u mean but the General fundraising goes on around bar in r club. Surely the clubs won't have to pay the same amount of fees and insurance this year?

Was there not an email out there reciting clubs about this from Croke?

Clubs have already paid Player Injury fund fees to croke park

Thats true. all clubs must of paid prior to any of the leagues starting in any shape so everyone will have paid around £4000 at a min for the GAA player injury fund. the camogie is a different insurance (costs us around £2800) and then the LGFA is another insurance set up.

The registration fees are all paid as well with no one being allowed to play without it being done as well. Its alot of money we have all paid up front for a potential for no games to be played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2020, 10:01:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2020, 10:36:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
i know what u mean but the General fundraising goes on around bar in r club. Surely the clubs won't have to pay the same amount of fees and insurance this year?
Would they in turn be reducing or scrubbing their membership fees?
No - membership fees dont cover insurance and league fees in our club and I'd say Many. With Clubs loss of income members Will not expect that. The county has Saffron business Forum and CLub Aontroma going well and doesnt need to profit from the clubs - surely the GAA can do a deal with the insurnace people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2020, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 25, 2020, 08:44:30 PM
Hard times ahead indeed for the clubs, on the plus side UK Gov grants etc may be available, we can postpone club fees and insurance to Croker. If we all save money wisely the paid club managers in SW will still get 80% of their salary while on furlough
those guys are self employed so no scheme yet norht of the border
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2020, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 26, 2020, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2020, 10:01:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2020, 10:36:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 25, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
The many clubs who Rely on the social club for income will be getting in tight for the next while - Hope Govt or Croke will step up. Fundraising generally will be well done - tough times

I'd say the clubs don't make much money bar Davitt's, hasn't been much profit from our club since the peace process
i know what u mean but the General fundraising goes on around bar in r club. Surely the clubs won't have to pay the same amount of fees and insurance this year?
Would they in turn be reducing or scrubbing their membership fees?
No - membership fees dont cover insurance and league fees in our club and I'd say Many. With Clubs loss of income members Will not expect that. The county has Saffron business Forum and CLub Aontroma going well and doesnt need to profit from the clubs - surely the GAA can do a deal with the insurnace people
Ye think? There's boys going to be getting it tight over the next while who could be doing with the few quid back. Remember that many clubs have a player membership at a much higher rate than a social membership. With no games being played, effectively everyone is a social member. If clubs are going to the county looking for a reduction/scrubbing of fees due to no games being played, it would be fairly hypocritical not to reciprocate that to its own members.

There will be many who have no issue paying anyway but please don't overlook those who will be struggling.
Of course ! That's obvious a chara.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 06:47:05 PM
Jesus. I have a funny feeling he is one of the contributors here.

Hope he gets through this ok :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 06:54:26 PM
I mind him asa a hurler from university. That is frightening. Hope he pulls through :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2020, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 06:47:05 PM
Jesus. I have a funny feeling he is one of the contributors here.

Hope he gets through this ok :o

its not Last Man, Hurled against Nial for a good few seasons, decent fella. really hope he pulls through, only 43?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 06:56:53 PM
Ah thought it was. Yeah I would guess he is about that age. Very capable fella too. Big in Kevin winters and the Irish language stuff too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2020, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 06:56:53 PM
Ah thought it was. Yeah I would guess he is about that age. Very capable fella too. Big in Kevin winters and the Irish language stuff too.

Frighting, if that doesn't bring it home to you it never will
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on March 30, 2020, 12:16:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 06:56:53 PM
Ah thought it was. Yeah I would guess he is about that age. Very capable fella too. Big in Kevin winters and the Irish language stuff too.

Murph is a great bloke, one of the best. Though I thought he was a bit older than that tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 30, 2020, 02:39:12 PM
Great Gael - our prayers are with him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
I see the Ulster council summarising support available For clubs both sides of the border from the governments but there was no support from the GAA itself. Surely having just given all Our insurance and league fees in Croke could let Clubs know they will be getting something back even if they don't know amount yet?????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 01, 2020, 09:42:04 PM
Well siad Belfast GAA, an unusual factually accurate post. Ulster GAA council have communicated this well but shame on Croke. The bean counter managers with there snouts in the trough have said nothing. I expect their main interest is raising their median salary above 125,000.  Clubs have been left in limbo as usual. Time for leadership to be demonstrated at the GAA top table in line with others
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 01, 2020, 09:50:47 PM
GAA Director General Tom Ryan told employees that their wages would be cut by between 10-20% on a sliding scale for the month of April. Those earning up to €38,000 would face a drop of 10%, while those in the €38,000-76,000 will be subject to a 15% cut.
All told, 500 employees paid by Central Council, will be affected. However, this cost cutting measure will be reviewed on a monthly basis.

Must've been reading your post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 01, 2020, 11:27:58 PM
So do you want Croke to Hold on to the clubs money to pay their staff salaries? ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Clubs dont pay a huge amount of money to the Central Council at Croke Park, other than Player Injury Fund. They would pay more fees to their own county boards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 02, 2020, 07:51:51 AM
Adopt a Robin Hood style approach and redistribute the Wealth more evenly. Croke have millions of funds in reserve... I know one of the bean counters BTW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Clubs dont pay a huge amount of money to the Central Council at Croke Park, other than Player Injury Fund. They would pay more fees to their own county boards.
Between both I'd say £20k For most clubs for nothing in return yet or in the foreseeable Future - this could push many clubs right to wire
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 02, 2020, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Clubs dont pay a huge amount of money to the Central Council at Croke Park, other than Player Injury Fund. They would pay more fees to their own county boards.
Between both I'd say £20k For most clubs for nothing in return yet or in the foreseeable Future - this could push many clubs right to wire

Need to start asking the CB's to cut their fees.

They're not paying for development squads, senior teams training or referee's fees at the minute or for the foreseeable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 02, 2020, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Clubs dont pay a huge amount of money to the Central Council at Croke Park, other than Player Injury Fund. They would pay more fees to their own county boards.
Between both I'd say £20k For most clubs for nothing in return yet or in the foreseeable Future - this could push many clubs right to wire

Need to start asking the CB's to cut their fees.

They're not paying for development squads, senior teams training or referee's fees at the minute or for the foreseeable.

Clubs have paid PIF to date which would range from €900 to €6500, depending on number of  teams being fielded.
Clubs contribution to PIF represents about 20% of the overall cost of the scheme . GAA  put €6million into the pot .
No fees to Antrim GAA have been paid or asked for
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2020, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 02, 2020, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: delgany on April 02, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
Clubs dont pay a huge amount of money to the Central Council at Croke Park, other than Player Injury Fund. They would pay more fees to their own county boards.
Between both I'd say £20k For most clubs for nothing in return yet or in the foreseeable Future - this could push many clubs right to wire

Need to start asking the CB's to cut their fees.

They're not paying for development squads, senior teams training or referee's fees at the minute or for the foreseeable.

Clubs have paid PIF to date which would range from €900 to €6500, depending on number of  teams being fielded.
Clubs contribution to PIF represents about 20% of the overall cost of the scheme . GAA  put €6million into the pot .
No fees to Antrim GAA have been paid or asked for
Don't think that's right. Ive it on good info that all fees to all association are paid Already
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on April 02, 2020, 04:10:05 PM
Id say you're right my understanding is that most if not all have been paid already... in such difficult times, they all need to step up and do the right thing by all clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2020, 06:20:22 PM
One of our club legends Liam Stewart, a chairman of our club for decades and one of the men behind the recent and past successes of our club is fighting for his life with the Coronavirus at the minute, we hope that Liam will pull through this, his biggest battle!

Thoughts prayers and love going out to a great clubman, chairman and our current Vice President.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2020, 06:55:04 PM
 :( best wishes to the guy. I don't know him but know the name. Anything to Karl?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2020, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2020, 06:55:04 PM
:( best wishes to the guy. I don't know him but know the name. Anything to Karl?

Father
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2020, 06:59:22 PM
Thought that. Sadly I think will be more and more comments like this on this board soon. There was a 70 plus year old from the Glens (cushendall I think) who got released from Antrim area hospital yesterday after having made a recovery. Hopefully it will be the same outcome. Haven't heard any more on Niall Murphy either :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 03, 2020, 09:58:12 AM
Hope Liam pulls through, never missed a match at Milltown and loved a chat. Funny I saw Karl out for a run the other day, flying.

I heard last night that Murph had improved slightly, they had reduced his sedation so hopefully he keeps improving
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2020, 11:11:59 AM
Thanks for that tyrdub. Hopefully improvement continues on all fronts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 09, 2020, 07:37:52 PM
With less timE for the season this year if we get one at all maybe we have only space for a club season and no county football....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2020, 10:41:28 AM
i dont think there will be any inter county action this year at all. with how things are going it will take some time for normality to come back in this island.

it could be another 4 weeks before we see some sort of relaxation but theres no way they will permit any form of sports where people can crowd together. Id love to see it all back again but to be realistic i cant see it happening.

i dont see a club scene happening either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2020, 10:43:51 AM
If it were to come back would you really be comfortable in such a crowd of people too?

I imagine the year isn't far of a write off for club and county though people will be itching to play and see games again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2020, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 10, 2020, 10:43:51 AM
If it were to come back would you really be comfortable in such a crowd of people too?

I imagine the year isn't far of a write off for club and county though people will be itching to play and see games again.

25 plus players in a changing room! No more huddles or hairdryer treatment from the managers! I'll just take numbers when refereeing and carry a can of Pepper spray!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 10, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
https://ulster.gaa.ie/covid-19/financial-information/

No Mention of monies paid to county boards for leagues and championship entry fees coming back to the clubs. Croke seems to be sidestepping their role and hand passIng to govts............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 10, 2020, 11:59:31 PM
Niall Murphy out of ICU.

Great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2020, 08:21:54 AM
A video on Antrim twitter of him. Great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 14, 2020, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 10, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
https://ulster.gaa.ie/covid-19/financial-information/

No Mention of monies paid to county boards for leagues and championship entry fees coming back to the clubs. Croke seems to be sidestepping their role and hand passIng to govts............
If your holiday is delayed long enough or cancelled you generally get a refund. While both Governments have stepped into supporting tax payers etc it seems that as Easter has come and gone and with no end to lock down in sight that the Croke Pk mandarins, as Pontius Pilate did, are washing their hands. If we don't push for refunds to the clubs then the clubs "blood will be on us and our children". Shame on them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 15, 2020, 09:40:36 AM
Ulster GAA announced changes to competitions including cancelling some. Seems sensible.

They also said there would be no refunds for season ticket holders. Seems mercenary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 15, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
Sad to hear of the passing of Paddy McIlvenny. An absolute gentleman.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 15, 2020, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 15, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
Sad to hear of the passing of Paddy McIlvenny. An absolute gentleman.
Well said - great gael and a friendly face in Casement Social Club for years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 15, 2020, 10:33:34 PM
That's shocking. Paddy will be remembered as a true gentleman. God rest his soul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 19, 2020, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 15, 2020, 09:40:36 AM
Ulster GAA announced changes to competitions including cancelling some. Seems sensible.

They also said there would be no refunds for season ticket holders. Seems mercenary.
Anyone surprise to hear That 80% of money raised by Croke goes back to the clubs according to recent interviews? I am ! or maybe a fair cut isn't coming North
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 11:22:21 AM
I have a few points on recent posts and welcome discussion / opinions.

1. Insurance Ireland have been asked to look positively into refunds to Southern motorists re insurance premiums as there are fewer cars on roads. = less accidents.
GAA hQ can raise the issue of refunds for insurance or lesser premiums in 2021 for clubs. Croke can surely strike a deal on our behalf.

2.  Also what's the view on GAA refunding a % of this years fees, our clubs have more pressing bills to be paid

3. Has Gaelfast gone into self isolation?
All quiet as far as I can see and wee uns across the county are at a loose end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 11:22:21 AM
I have a few points on recent posts and welcome discussion / opinions.

1. Insurance Ireland have been asked to look positively into refunds to Southern motorists re insurance premiums as there are fewer cars on roads. = less accidents.
GAA hQ can raise the issue of refunds for insurance or lesser premiums in 2021 for clubs. Croke can surely strike a deal on our behalf.

2.  Also what's the view on GAA refunding a % of this years fees, our clubs have more pressing bills to be paid

3. Has Gaelfast gone into self isolation?
All quiet as far as I can see and wee uns across the county are at a loose end

Is this a joke question?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2020, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 11:56:20 AM

Is this a joke question?

Poor auld gaelfast gets an awful bad rep round here lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 20, 2020, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 11:56:20 AM

Is this a joke question?

Poor auld gaelfast gets an awful bad rep round here lol

I get the concerns around the money that's fine, we have started a quiz on Friday nights, we had 65 entries for a £5 per team and we will use that money going forward for bills, that's all we can do. Not perfect but every bit helps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
That's pretty good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 20, 2020, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 11:56:20 AM

Is this a joke question?

Poor auld gaelfast gets an awful bad rep round here lol

I get the concerns around the money that's fine, we have started a quiz on Friday nights, we had 65 entries for a £5 per team and we will use that money going forward for bills, that's all we can do. Not perfect but every bit helps

All fund raisers are critical MR2
and well done on the quiz but TBH that amount won't keep you afloat. Clubs will soon be in crisis and the lack of leadership from Croke is a poor show.
The lack of activity from Galefast is not great IMO. Could the guys not run county online style competitions, send coaching videos, training schedules to clubs etc to help kids keep interested and active. Just a thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 20, 2020, 01:48:15 PM
If Croke  isn't on to the Insurers for a rebate they are asleep at the Wheel - paying for insurance you aren't using is Forest Gump stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 20, 2020, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 20, 2020, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 11:56:20 AM

Is this a joke question?

Poor auld gaelfast gets an awful bad rep round here lol

I get the concerns around the money that's fine, we have started a quiz on Friday nights, we had 65 entries for a £5 per team and we will use that money going forward for bills, that's all we can do. Not perfect but every bit helps

All fund raisers are critical MR2
and well done on the quiz but TBH that amount won't keep you afloat. Clubs will soon be in crisis and the lack of leadership from Croke is a poor show.
The lack of activity from Galefast is not great IMO. Could the guys not run county online style competitions, send coaching videos, training schedules to clubs etc to help kids keep interested and active. Just a thought

The Gaelfast facebook page had videos and a load of activity based challenges on it - if youd be bothered to look !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 20, 2020, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Funnily enough Gaelfast , is aimed at primary school aged children .
Ulster GAA  coaches are also uploading activities.
There is plenty to do but for most children , an open space is a major problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 20, 2020, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Funnily enough Gaelfast , is aimed at primary school aged children .
Ulster GAA  coaches are also uploading activities.
There is plenty to do but for most children , an open space is a major problem

My take on it could parents, or a parent, not go for a kick-about with their son/daughter for half an hour every day?

Go into the back garden or yard and do a kick about.  You don't need videos or Facebook to do that.

Spend some time with the child(ren) playing a bit of sport - plus a bit of quality bonding time.

But this craic of watching You Tube or Twitter to see what others are doing...wtf...just get people and have a kick about. Have a bit of fun. Let the kids be kids!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available

What parents can not kick about with their kids for half an hour every day nowadays?  The vast vast majority can go out.

As for they're not all into the GAA...wtf...they're are going out for a kick about - not training for an All'Ireland Final.  They don't have to be a GAA Coaching Officer.

It's only half an hour per day - every parent has half an hour per day.  This excuse of not having time but they can spend 3 hours a night on the phone or watching Netflix.  Pure waffle.

Just go out and have a bit of craic - have a bit of fun, not running a drill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 20, 2020, 07:34:12 PM
Anybody for the Saffron Gael quiz starting here at 8pm. Darren Mc Keown is odds on according to Paddy Power.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 07:40:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 20, 2020, 07:34:12 PM
Anybody for the Saffron Gael quiz starting here at 8pm. Darren Mc Keown is odds on according to Paddy Power.

Lol we had a cracking night on Friday 65 club families battling it out. On the night we finished 10th considering the amount of refreshments that wasn't bad!

Hopefully it's a success and might join up next time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 20, 2020, 09:53:06 PM
Conall and myself teamed up. 23/36. I'd like to thank Conall for his correct answer. Well done to Dunloys own famous quiz master himself  Vincent Rainey from Quiz Fortune.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 20, 2020, 09:53:06 PM
Conall and myself teamed up. 23/36. I'd like to thank Conall for his correct answer. Well done to Dunloys own famous quiz master himself  Vincent Rainey from Quiz Fortune.

Listened in on it, really enjoyed it. Laughed and some of the banter going on. Hopefully he'll keep that going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available

What parents can not kick about with their kids for half an hour every day nowadays?  The vast vast majority can go out.

As for they're not all into the GAA...wtf...they're are going out for a kick about - not training for an All'Ireland Final.  They don't have to be a GAA Coaching Officer.

It's only half an hour per day - every parent has half an hour per day.  This excuse of not having time but they can spend 3 hours a night on the phone or watching Netflix.  Pure waffle.

Just go out and have a bit of craic - have a bit of fun, not running a drill.
Ok Marty so your Logic is let the unqualified parents have a kick about with the kids and let the 8 or 9 qualified specialists do nothing? surely the qualified and experienced coaches could keep the kids interested better? I see last gaelfast activites were posted in March - they must be on that paid leave Scheme or else leaving to the parents makes no sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available

What parents can not kick about with their kids for half an hour every day nowadays?  The vast vast majority can go out.

As for they're not all into the GAA...wtf...they're are going out for a kick about - not training for an All'Ireland Final.  They don't have to be a GAA Coaching Officer.

It's only half an hour per day - every parent has half an hour per day.  This excuse of not having time but they can spend 3 hours a night on the phone or watching Netflix.  Pure waffle.

Just go out and have a bit of craic - have a bit of fun, not running a drill.
Ok Marty so your Logic is let the unqualified parents have a kick about with the kids and let the 8 or 9 qualified specialists do nothing? surely the qualified and experienced coaches could keep the kids interested better? I see last gaelfast activites were posted in March - they must be on that paid leave Scheme or else leaving to the parents makes no sense

You know how the scheme works, once that kicks in you can't work, so any uploading of videos or carrying out work then you are in breach of the scheme and won't get paid!

Now with that explained tell me how you expect people who are effectively on partially paid 'leave' going to carry out their duties when they have been told they can't?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available

What parents can not kick about with their kids for half an hour every day nowadays?  The vast vast majority can go out.

As for they're not all into the GAA...wtf...they're are going out for a kick about - not training for an All'Ireland Final.  They don't have to be a GAA Coaching Officer.

It's only half an hour per day - every parent has half an hour per day.  This excuse of not having time but they can spend 3 hours a night on the phone or watching Netflix.  Pure waffle.

Just go out and have a bit of craic - have a bit of fun, not running a drill.
Ok Marty so your Logic is let the unqualified parents have a kick about with the kids and let the 8 or 9 qualified specialists do nothing? surely the qualified and experienced coaches could keep the kids interested better? I see last gaelfast activites were posted in March - they must be on that paid leave Scheme or else leaving to the parents makes no sense

You know how the scheme works, once that kicks in you can't work, so any uploading of videos or carrying out work then you are in breach of the scheme and won't get paid!

Now with that explained tell me how you expect people who are effectively on partially paid 'leave' going to carry out their duties when they have been told they can't?
I wasn't aware they were in that scheme. That explains it then. Must have missed that announcement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 21, 2020, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available

What parents can not kick about with their kids for half an hour every day nowadays?  The vast vast majority can go out.

As for they're not all into the GAA...wtf...they're are going out for a kick about - not training for an All'Ireland Final.  They don't have to be a GAA Coaching Officer.

It's only half an hour per day - every parent has half an hour per day.  This excuse of not having time but they can spend 3 hours a night on the phone or watching Netflix.  Pure waffle.

Just go out and have a bit of craic - have a bit of fun, not running a drill.
Ok Marty so your Logic is let the unqualified parents have a kick about with the kids and let the 8 or 9 qualified specialists do nothing? surely the qualified and experienced coaches could keep the kids interested better? I see last gaelfast activites were posted in March - they must be on that paid leave Scheme or else leaving to the parents makes no sense

No, my point was somebody above mentioned parents don't have time or are not 'into' the GAA or are not available etc.

My response was to that statement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 12:25:33 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 21, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 20, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Well Delgany, alas I had looked at the Facebook site but this is for u6 to u12 and was posted in March. Does this mean that the rest of the kids can bore themselves to death or for for carry outs.
I also looked at twitter but the only activity I seen is that some Galefast coaches are cycling all over the county, at least they're keeping fit themselves during "furlough"

Honestly, give it up, its getting boring now. The place is in lockdown, clubs have told our kids to stay in for their health and to save lives. It's Gaelfast, built up Belfast where gardens are limited or not there.

Parks should be closed and kids not encouraged to go there or meet up with friends to do so. We'll just have to start again when it is safe to train.

Not all parents will be able to go for a kick about, not all parents are into playing GAA or have the time and not all parents available

What parents can not kick about with their kids for half an hour every day nowadays?  The vast vast majority can go out.

As for they're not all into the GAA...wtf...they're are going out for a kick about - not training for an All'Ireland Final.  They don't have to be a GAA Coaching Officer.

It's only half an hour per day - every parent has half an hour per day.  This excuse of not having time but they can spend 3 hours a night on the phone or watching Netflix.  Pure waffle.

Just go out and have a bit of craic - have a bit of fun, not running a drill.
Ok Marty so your Logic is let the unqualified parents have a kick about with the kids and let the 8 or 9 qualified specialists do nothing? surely the qualified and experienced coaches could keep the kids interested better? I see last gaelfast activites were posted in March - they must be on that paid leave Scheme or else leaving to the parents makes no sense

You know how the scheme works, once that kicks in you can't work, so any uploading of videos or carrying out work then you are in breach of the scheme and won't get paid!

Now with that explained tell me how you expect people who are effectively on partially paid 'leave' going to carry out their duties when they have been told they can't?
I wasn't aware they were in that scheme. That explains it then. Must have missed that announcement.

I think the lockdown would have especially been targeted to that particular group when he GAA were the first organisation to come out with the lockdown of pitches and games/training
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 10:13:19 PM
No one knows for sure if Gaelfast coaches are on "that paid leave scheme" , it's just an another assumption then.
Just to be clear : Businesses etc can furlough their workforce but do not have to put 100% of staff on the scheme. Eg Next retained warehouse staff on full pay but furloughed shop staff
I would hope that the GAA would not put employees on a UK / HMRC scheme to shut themselves down in Ireland - oxymoron or what.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2020, 10:25:41 PM
Did you not get the job? Jesus there is some cynicism from two boys on here about this gaelfast.

That last post is ridiculous. Don't take money from the brits. Just run yourself into the ground instead. Great idea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 10:13:19 PM
No one knows for sure if Gaelfast coaches are on "that paid leave scheme" , it's just an another assumption then.
Just to be clear : Businesses etc can furlough their workforce but do not have to put 100% of staff on the scheme. Eg Next retained warehouse staff on full pay but furloughed shop staff
I would hope that the GAA would not put employees on a UK / HMRC scheme to shut themselves down in Ireland - oxymoron or what.

The scheme is available in the south also. There's no assumption they are furloughed. Now get some sleep
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:04:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2020, 10:25:41 PM
Did you not get the job? Jesus there is some cynicism from two boys on here about this gaelfast.

That last post is ridiculous. Don't take money from the brits. Just run yourself into the ground instead. Great idea.
ITG, your opinion but wind your neck in. Next thing will be the Shinners take up on the scheme.. Lol
The irony is that UK scheme closes GAA scheme when kids need it most. Have a laugh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 10:13:19 PM
No one knows for sure if Gaelfast coaches are on "that paid leave scheme" , it's just an another assumption then.
Just to be clear : Businesses etc can furlough their workforce but do not have to put 100% of staff on the scheme. Eg Next retained warehouse staff on full pay but furloughed shop staff
I would hope that the GAA would not put employees on a UK / HMRC scheme to shut themselves down in Ireland - oxymoron or what.

The scheme is available in the south also. There's no assumption they are furloughed. Now get some sleep
MR2, typical comedy answer, you suggested they were on the UK scheme. The UK and ROI schemes are quite different but as a know it all you are bound to know this. Please doze off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 10:13:19 PM
No one knows for sure if Gaelfast coaches are on "that paid leave scheme" , it's just an another assumption then.
Just to be clear : Businesses etc can furlough their workforce but do not have to put 100% of staff on the scheme. Eg Next retained warehouse staff on full pay but furloughed shop staff
I would hope that the GAA would not put employees on a UK / HMRC scheme to shut themselves down in Ireland - oxymoron or what.

The scheme is available in the south also. There's no assumption they are furloughed. Now get some sleep
MR2, typical comedy answer, you suggested they were on the UK scheme. The UK and ROI schemes are quite different but as a know it all you are bound to know this. Please doze off


What is it you want a furloughed outfit to do? Spit it out please, they are 100% out of work and not allowed to work.

You're an embarrassment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that you're a referee and used to self isolation I would have said it's getting to you.
Getting bored now so this will likely be my last post before I furlough.
If Ulster GAA  can communicate via twitter and Facebook positively then so can gaelfast, IMO.
Ulster still open for business, maybe on the southern scheme.. Ha ha.
At least we know Gaelfast are furloughed cos you said it so it must be true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2020, 07:11:54 AM
We'll miss you ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2020, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that you're a referee and used to self isolation I would have said it's getting to you.
Getting bored now so this will likely be my last post before I furlough.
If Ulster GAA  can communicate via twitter and Facebook positively then so can gaelfast, IMO.
Ulster still open for business, maybe on the southern scheme.. Ha ha.
At least we know Gaelfast are furloughed cos you said it so it must be true.

If all are furloughed then how can they send messages on a public forum? That would  then suggest they are not furloughed?

Don't take my word for it, but get your facts right before publicly bashing people on a public forum.

What the GAA do or Ulster GAA do is up to them, they may have some staff furloughed  others on full pay I'd assume they are a separate entity, that part I don't know, but I have had communication with one of the lads and they did have plenty material to do things but it's not allowed through the furloughed scheme.

On being furloughed through my own job, I'm not allowed to talk to my clients, there's a colleague who is working and they must communicate through her, she will email me or phone me on said issue, I can't directly be seen to help/work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 22, 2020, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2020, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that you're a referee and used to self isolation I would have said it's getting to you.
Getting bored now so this will likely be my last post before I furlough.
If Ulster GAA  can communicate via twitter and Facebook positively then so can gaelfast, IMO.
Ulster still open for business, maybe on the southern scheme.. Ha ha.
At least we know Gaelfast are furloughed cos you said it so it must be true.

If all are furloughed then how can they send messages on a public forum? That would  then suggest they are not furloughed?

Don't take my word for it, but get your facts right before publicly bashing people on a public forum.

What the GAA do or Ulster GAA do is up to them, they may have some staff furloughed  others on full pay I'd assume they are a separate entity, that part I don't know, but I have had communication with one of the lads and they did have plenty material to do things but it's not allowed through the furloughed scheme.

On being furloughed through my own job, I'm not allowed to talk to my clients, there's a colleague who is working and they must communicate through her, she will email me or phone me on said issue, I can't directly be seen to help/work.
Are the referees eligible for any of the Schemes North our South? most must be down a right few grand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2020, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 22, 2020, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2020, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that you're a referee and used to self isolation I would have said it's getting to you.
Getting bored now so this will likely be my last post before I furlough.
If Ulster GAA  can communicate via twitter and Facebook positively then so can gaelfast, IMO.
Ulster still open for business, maybe on the southern scheme.. Ha ha.
At least we know Gaelfast are furloughed cos you said it so it must be true.

If all are furloughed then how can they send messages on a public forum? That would  then suggest they are not furloughed?

Don't take my word for it, but get your facts right before publicly bashing people on a public forum.

What the GAA do or Ulster GAA do is up to them, they may have some staff furloughed  others on full pay I'd assume they are a separate entity, that part I don't know, but I have had communication with one of the lads and they did have plenty material to do things but it's not allowed through the furloughed scheme.

On being furloughed through my own job, I'm not allowed to talk to my clients, there's a colleague who is working and they must communicate through her, she will email me or phone me on said issue, I can't directly be seen to help/work.
Are the referees eligible for any of the Schemes North our South? most must be down a right few grand

Sure it's voluntary  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 23, 2020, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2020, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 22, 2020, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2020, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
If it wasn't for the fact that you're a referee and used to self isolation I would have said it's getting to you.
Getting bored now so this will likely be my last post before I furlough.
If Ulster GAA  can communicate via twitter and Facebook positively then so can gaelfast, IMO.
Ulster still open for business, maybe on the southern scheme.. Ha ha.
At least we know Gaelfast are furloughed cos you said it so it must be true.

If all are furloughed then how can they send messages on a public forum? That would  then suggest they are not furloughed?

Don't take my word for it, but get your facts right before publicly bashing people on a public forum.

What the GAA do or Ulster GAA do is up to them, they may have some staff furloughed  others on full pay I'd assume they are a separate entity, that part I don't know, but I have had communication with one of the lads and they did have plenty material to do things but it's not allowed through the furloughed scheme.

On being furloughed through my own job, I'm not allowed to talk to my clients, there's a colleague who is working and they must communicate through her, she will email me or phone me on said issue, I can't directly be seen to help/work.
Are the referees eligible for any of the Schemes North our South? most must be down a right few grand

Sure it's voluntary  ;D
Just like the SW senior football managers and a few senior football managers in Belfast ! A few house extensions not happening this year with clubs Not in a position to pay Retainers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2020, 09:25:20 AM
All your posts seem to revolve around money...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 24, 2020, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2020, 09:25:20 AM
All your posts seem to revolve around money...
I wouldn't disagree with you at the moment with no matches or training to debate
Paying managers does the following
- takes money Out of the association that could be Used to build even better facilities and even better equip and develop the kids
- it tells own club coaches that they are not Good enough to take their team
- I know of 2 examples were when the money ran out and the clubs found it difficult to get not paid senior managers because they wanted the Same as the last guy got
Happy to debate the Points above a chara

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2020, 09:14:13 AM
My club have paid managers. It is not as black and white as you make out. There are many factors for a lot of clubs in going outside.

Any which way there will be a lot less money to pay any manager now and it doesn't escape the fact that you seem obsessed with money in the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 25, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
I'm obsessed With money being taken out of the game so u r right !
Give me the volunteers of the best volunteer association in the world any day. Fairly sure u r A good volunteer too because u care about It like me. Chase the money men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2020, 09:17:20 PM
In my time I did a lot of underage coaching but I have moved away from my local club and haven't got involved in another. That may change based on kids etc though.

Paid coaches are necessary for some clubs and I have seen that. Yes there are mercenaries about who I would rather not have about too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 26, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
ive never been a fan of paid managers for our games esp in your own club, its just wrong when you have others there doing it for nothing, administrating and running the club for nothing and the players getting nothing. Yet you have an outsider to your clubs coining in and getting a lot pounds to manage a team.

we have new coaches/managers all the time at underage and adult level. they get good help from others in the club and they learn their wares along the way. they are encouraged to take part in coaching seminars within the club and they get a feel for whats going on and learn the ropes. they usually all stick about and thats where you get your future adult managers.

you show faith in your own members and vols who give up everything for your club - not in someone who will leave as soon as the money runs out, a better offer comes in or a good team disappears. they wont be there for years to come when potentially you might need their experience to hand onto others.

i got involved 8 years ago and hadnt a bloody clue what i was doing or what was going on but i watched and learned from others in charge. Good people, knowledgeable men and woman who were doing the same as me and giving up their free time for the club. 8 years later im still doing it and still learning from good people around me and hopefully passing on that same help i got to others as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2020, 07:25:34 PM
Ok to to pay physiotherapist and masseuse  ;)

If someone within the club is willing to pay expenses it won't close the club down nor will you see people creating a fuss. Now if the club has to dig that money from their own funding bar returns then that's different, then club members may feel aggrieved, again I get that also.

I remember looking after the southy teams and before mobile phones I'd have been using house phones, we claimed that payment every year, collected it on St Patrick's day and spent it generally that day also, in the club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 27, 2020, 12:48:56 PM
the physio ones is always a grey area for me lol your asking some one to practice their profession for free at unsociable hours. if you've worked all day and then have to come home and stand at a training session for lads or girls to work on them for free for another few hours you aint going to get many vols for that lol

i agree with you about an 'external funder' who maybe wants to spend their money on that person but at the same time if the clubs put more time into those who wanted to do it for free then that individual wouldn't need to waste their money on a mercenary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 27, 2020, 12:48:56 PM
the physio ones is always a grey area for me lol your asking some one to practice their profession for free at unsociable hours. if you've worked all day and then have to come home and stand at a training session for lads or girls to work on them for free for another few hours you aint going to get many vols for that lol

i agree with you about an 'external funder' who maybe wants to spend their money on that person but at the same time if the clubs put more time into those who wanted to do it for free then that individual wouldn't need to waste their money on a mercenary

So do away with sponsors? we never had that back in the day on my shirt, now its standard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 27, 2020, 07:12:45 PM
sorry our misinterpreting what i meant.

A sponsor gets what they paid for - exposure and advertising of their business and will get a return for their money

i was meaning that an outside source paying for a manager to take a senior side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2020, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 27, 2020, 07:12:45 PM
sorry our misinterpreting what i meant.

A sponsor gets what they paid for - exposure and advertising of their business and will get a return for their money

i was meaning that an outside source paying for a manager to take a senior side.

No I meant that an outside sponsor can bank roll clubs to provide better facilities this in turn puts them at a better advantage to the next club. But I'm not against it I'm just showing that there is money in GAA and if they have the means to use it then so be it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2020, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2020, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 27, 2020, 07:12:45 PM
sorry our misinterpreting what i meant.

A sponsor gets what they paid for - exposure and advertising of their business and will get a return for their money

i was meaning that an outside source paying for a manager to take a senior side.

No I meant that an outside sponsor can bank roll clubs to provide better facilities this in turn puts them at a better advantage to the next club. But I'm not against it I'm just showing that there is money in GAA and if they have the means to use it then so be it.

Name me an Antrim club that's been bankrolled for better facilities?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 28, 2020, 11:43:21 AM
the costs each year to a club are unreal. they have to pay more than any other sporting organisation about just to keep things going.

You have your insurance for the grounds and properties itself. within that you have rates, bin collections, oil bills, electric bills, potentially telephone bills, grounds maintenance, repairs to equipment etc etc. Clubs that have social clubs have then all thier fees to be included into the mix as well as well as legal costs for licencing etc.

After that your into players insurance for the GAA which varies based on the no of teams you have in hurling and football but is usually around £4-6k.

Camogie is a bit different. You have to pay an All Ireland levy of 350 euro just to be allowed to register a player on the system to play. After that you have the injury insurance fee which is around £2.5k per club. The ladies football will also be the same carry on.

All of the above requires a lot of money and for a club like ourselves it takes on average over £2k per week (last time it was worked out) to run it for a year. The above is all done for free by people and looked after and ran for each season for free the same as every other club around. We need that income from lottos, bars, draws, sponsorship, fundraisers etc to keep the doors open and provide the opportunity for our youth to play our great games.


then you go and hand £20k to someone to take a senior team for a year in the club. Go figure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 28, 2020, 12:00:47 PM
Totally agree DR.

Point is, more time, money and resources should be spent on starting out at U6's (Nursery), U8's and U10's and putting every effort into these age groups.  That's not meaning neglecting the other teams but a lot more emphasis on these 3 teams.  Clubs should put a development plan like this in place.

Unfortunately the majority of club members think that the senior team is the pinacle and keep pumping money and resources etc. into it without any solid foundation.  Throwing money after money.  The 'get success quick' muppets who think this is the way to go.  They are chasing their tail.  New season, new manager but same result - no plan or structure.

Working up obviously takes a lot of time but it also take a lot of buy in from club members which is harder to attain as they see the senior team as the flagship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2020, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2020, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2020, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 27, 2020, 07:12:45 PM
sorry our misinterpreting what i meant.

A sponsor gets what they paid for - exposure and advertising of their business and will get a return for their money

i was meaning that an outside source paying for a manager to take a senior side.

No I meant that an outside sponsor can bank roll clubs to provide better facilities this in turn puts them at a better advantage to the next club. But I'm not against it I'm just showing that there is money in GAA and if they have the means to use it then so be it.

Name me an Antrim club that's been bankrolled for better facilities?

Can, I'm sure there are club sponsors which pay a annual fee which pays for facilities and up keep of facilities, there are plenty cases of this in Dublin clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2020, 01:28:18 PM
Who in antrim is paying 20k to their managers?

Very few would be - maybe one or two...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2020, 03:27:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2020, 01:28:18 PM
Who in antrim is paying 20k to their managers?

Very few would be - maybe one or two...

I've heard of 2 clubs paying managers huge money to clubs but that's rumours..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2020, 03:37:27 PM
Yeah but there'd be very few clubs in the county capable of that. I know the two you are talking about and would guess they are situated rather closely together lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
Well they won't be paid this year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 28, 2020, 04:24:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
Well they won't be paid this year!

Would they be on 80% furlough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2020, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2020, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 28, 2020, 04:24:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
Well they won't be paid this year!

Would they be on 80% furlough
Yes, 80% of what they're declaring.

Put them on a retainer, they'll understand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 28, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2020, 01:28:18 PM
Who in antrim is paying 20k to their managers?

Very few would be - maybe one or two...

to be fair i used that total on a numbers i heard threw about for some people to be paid to take teams. its pure conjecture but at the same times its more to do with the wastage given to mercenaries.

You can throw all the money you want at a senior team manager but without the years of hard work put in at under age it will amount to a small gain and long term loss.

Coach the coaches you have and it will produce the next line of senior managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2020, 08:44:11 PM
I think I've said before that my own club have used outside managers in the past, due to the fact that we don't have the people within our own club to want to take senior teams. We've no end of people wanting to take underage teams but nobody wants to step up to the senior set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?

No, if no one is willing to take the team within the club the committee will look after it or one of the players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?

No, if no one is willing to take the team within the club the committee will look after it or one of the players
Exactly - clubs, with no money to pay out, always find a way. That's Why I think the argument that we had noBody is a red herring - they are looking a short Cut to success, tell themselves thry have no-one, and do long term damage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2020, 02:28:28 PM
You'd be going round begging. The club I speak of does that year on year and that is why people get paid from time to time. Many clubs are not doing this to covet success. It's a simplistic view.

Mercenaries and the ones getting the "big guns" are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?

No, if no one is willing to take the team within the club the committee will look after it or one of the players
Exactly - clubs, with no money to pay out, always find a way. That's Why I think the argument that we had noBody is a red herring - they are looking a short Cut to success, tell themselves thry have no-one, and do long term damage

So you'd be happy that the committee looks after the team? Organised training match arrangements and picking a team? Hmmm, interesting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 04:36:02 PM
It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 29, 2020, 05:05:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 04:36:02 PM
It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen

thats a good point there.

if your club constantly wants a 'big gun' or an outside coach each year to take the senior team then the expectation amongst players and supporters will always be high. it creates a scenario where other people may not feel good enough to fill those boots and the players will react the same way.

Ive seen it an extent before where players think that a better know person will bring success as opposed to someone who may not come with a name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 04:36:02 PM
It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen

I wouldn't encourage it by any means, and if you have to cajole someone into the job then you're beat before a ball is struck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 29, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Senior teams expect to have someone leading a team that knows what they are doing, well organised, tactical, understanding of physical fitness. A person who they respect and look to for inspiration. Some clubs have to look outside their structures in order to achieve that goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 29, 2020, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 29, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Senior teams expect to have someone leading a team that knows what they are doing, well organised, tactical, understanding of physical fitness. A person who they respect and look to for inspiration. Some clubs have to look outside their structures in order to achieve that goal.

Problem is players expect too much and won't put in the required hard work and when it goes belly up: the manager is at fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 02:41:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 29, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Senior teams expect to have someone leading a team that knows what they are doing, well organised, tactical, understanding of physical fitness. A person who they respect and look to for inspiration. Some clubs have to look outside their structures in order to achieve that goal.
Paid doesn't mean good and not paid mean bad - the most successful team in recent History is St Galls had all their own lads in and made their success all the better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 30, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
From reading the different county groups , managers who are getting paid and dont cut the mustard,  get the P45 swiftly enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 30, 2020, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 30, 2020, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
From reading the different county groups , managers who are getting paid and dont cut the mustard,  get the P45 swiftly enough.
And generally find some other bunch of mugs ready to pay them for another year.

It's a managerial roundabout, once your on it it's hard to get off it. Plenty of managers have been about different counties, achieved Nanda but keep being hired.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 05:06:15 PM
I still really don't think there are that many in antrim who'd be paying that much. There is a lot lot more money about tyrone and derry football than there would be in antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 30, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman

What if the players are contributing to the 'fees' themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 06:45:59 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman

What if the players are contributing to the 'fees' themselves

If the players want to that's fine, as long as they pay their club fees also !

The club can't be out of pocket for anything other than petrol in my view
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 30, 2020, 09:01:46 PM
St Galls have been known to pay too. John Raff and James Mc Cartan come to mind....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman

What if the players are contributing to the 'fees' themselves
then the richest teams are then trying to buy success to Follow your Logic - more money, better coach = success - Nonsense...............Slaughtneil
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 09:37:21 PM
So have they never paid? I am not sure I follow your logic... That or you're wrong.

Slaughtneil or kilcoo are not good examples. Cross tend to stay local.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman

What if the players are contributing to the 'fees' themselves
then the richest teams are then trying to buy success to Follow your Logic - more money, better coach = success - Nonsense...............Slaughtneil

S'neil? Are you being serious?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 30, 2020, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 30, 2020, 09:46:47 PM
Sure go the whole hog and buy the players and all.
There's a few clubs who pick up a transfer or two , both inter county and  internally. Success is attractive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 30, 2020, 09:46:47 PM
Sure go the whole hog and buy the players and all.
There's a few clubs who pick up a transfer or two , both inter county and  internally. Success is attractive.

Back in the day 70's 80's there was a few jobs given to country players to secure such services
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman

What if the players are contributing to the 'fees' themselves
then the richest teams are then trying to buy success to Follow your Logic - more money, better coach = success - Nonsense...............Slaughtneil

S'neil? Are you being serious?
bad example! Lockdown losing it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman

What if the players are contributing to the 'fees' themselves
then the richest teams are then trying to buy success to Follow your Logic - more money, better coach = success - Nonsense...............Slaughtneil

S'neil? Are you being serious?
bad example! Lockdown losing it

Hurling manager local?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 01, 2020, 10:06:46 AM
i think thats it in a nutshell HS. If your standing in the rain taking a team for free and on the same pitch see another person taking an adult team for a wage you start to question why your putting yourself through it at times.

Once that starts then your into problems for your club as no one will want to do anything for free when others are getting a ££ in their pocket.

I've been involved with our senior hurling, football and camogie set up in this last 8 years and i know how hard it all is, how much time it takes up and the commitment level involved but at the same time none of us got paid for it - other than say a physio brought in out of hrs or the gym work. Our senior football management last season, we all took turns at washing the shirts. Its just part an parcel of the fabric of our set ups that everyone does their bit.

As you say HS, if we were all standing with our hand out wanting money for washing them well then we are going down a route that will never be sustainable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 01, 2020, 10:25:20 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 09:46:58 AM
Bad example or not, it is being overlooked that his fundamental point is 100% correct. I don't see any justification for it at all. It is a scourge on our games. Not only is it a widespread flaunting of the rules, it completely flies in the face of what the association stands for and undermines the efforts of the countless volunteers in our clubs. The horse has bolted with the GAA though and we are heading for hell in a handcart as the selfishness of the here and now prevails. People will continue to make watery excuses for what they know is morally wrong and bit by bit we'll reach the day where no man will wash a kit, line a pitch, take the U12s or fill the water bottles without having his hand out. And sure, if you can't get anyone to do it, pay a man.

Very true.

The point is that the GAA has changed so much this past 20 years and it'll be changing rapidly as each year goes on.

Money
GPAand club version.
Sky and tv deals.
Spy
Sponsorship
Paid club managers etc.
Professionalism.

Add to the list.

The thing with these is they developed oranically as time moved on.

Where will it stop?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 09:46:58 AM
Bad example or not, it is being overlooked that his fundamental point is 100% correct. I don't see any justification for it at all. It is a scourge on our games. Not only is it a widespread flaunting of the rules, it completely flies in the face of what the association stands for and undermines the efforts of the countless volunteers in our clubs. The horse has bolted with the GAA though and we are heading for hell in a handcart as the selfishness of the here and now prevails. People will continue to make watery excuses for what they know is morally wrong and bit by bit we'll reach the day where no man will wash a kit, line a pitch, take the U12s or fill the water bottles without having his hand out. And sure, if you can't get anyone to do it, pay a man.

Well I've news for you, this has been going on for donkey's years, I can remember all sorts of dealings in clubs regarding money being used as a sweetener back in the 80's. the rights and wrongs of it have been discussed for years, nothing ever done about it. officially as long as the club isn't paying someone directly from their own coffers then its not breaking any rules, paying someone travel expenses should be ok.

I've been coaching from under 12 up through all ages and through to senior and still looking after our South Antrim hurlers, I personally have no problems with what goes on if there is someone being paid, not by the club though, if the club were just paying travel, then that's fine, if we'd a manager/coach coming from Tyrone then pay his fare.

If someone within the club wants to pay anything on top of that then that's between them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 11:46:48 AM
If it is not wrong, let's do it up front then. Let's call it what it is. If it doesn't break our rules and if it doesn't move us away from our amateur status, fine, let's go legit with it, sure it's not wrong. Or we continue to sneakily pay people undeclared sums of dough on the sly and turn a blind eye to it happening at all.

Like I said this is my personal view on it, the rules are in place and its up to Croke park to enforce them, and they can do that in Dublin first, see how well that goes down.

Some clubs like Dunloy have a huge wealth of experienced ex players, now fathers of players who are keen to put their shoulder behind the wheel and able to rotate them throughout the levels and long may it continue, other clubs do not, other clubs do better when someone from outside the club is given more respect than the ex players within it.

Its a huge responsibility looking after a senior team, some people have what it takes and others don't want to take that on, even a successful club like ours struggles to get managers.

I've seen both sides of it and was approached by a club to look after them a few seasons ago, I declined, as someone has mentioned you are then on a circuit.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 02:17:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 12:45:15 PM
Look, I'm aware that clubs can struggle to get managers from within the club to take their team but here's the fact, if they'd no money to pay an outside man, they'd still find someone to take them. Clubs aren't paying outside men out of necessity, they do it because they want to.

Yes and they behave in the past, committee looks after it or a collection of senior players muck in, not an ideal situation and never works well.

But if the club itself is not out of money and someone with a few pounds is looking to spend it I've no problem with that personally, does it go against the ethos? Yes is the simple answer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 01, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
There are a variety of reasons why clubs look for  outside managers.
1. They have no suitable candidates within the club - it's a big step up from under age to senior club football and takes a lot of planning and prep time .
2. They could have an up and coming young squad that could improve the clubs status in the parish by incremental improvement and focusing their capabilities.
3. It should be a long term investment in the club by improving standards .

If a club had that capability within their membership , it's clearly a positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 01, 2020, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 03:33:19 PM
Waffle. In summary, pay money to get a better manager.

As I say, would you be happy to extend that to players?

You cant apply your reasons to every club in the county. Each one has a variety of circumstances.

Clubs are generally restricted to the players in their parish,  so  u cant  really extend that to players - they should strive to play for their clubs and they generally pay the club fof the pleasure  via their membership .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
Think dealing with one issue at a time is what's needed.

So in summary (for me) the club should not be paying for any manager unless it's travel expenses
Should a clubman want to pay for it with his own money then the club isn't losing out, I'm fine with that.

Players coming in from outside (lads from other counties) because they've been 'bought', not in favour but have seen players get jobs as sweeteners in the past, in most clubs in Belfast back in the day, don't think it's as much now tbf.

Some clubs just don't have the experience ex players to coach/manage a senior team, and until they do they might just go outside.

Some clubs are really successful with outside managers rather than home managers and that's been proven on quite a few occasions recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 05:29:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
Think dealing with one issue at a time is what's needed.

So in summary (for me) the club should not be paying for any manager unless it's travel expenses
Should a clubman want to pay for it with his own money then the club isn't losing out, I'm fine with that.

Players coming in from outside (lads from other counties) because they've been 'bought', not in favour but have seen players get jobs as sweeteners in the past, in most clubs in Belfast back in the day, don't think it's as much now tbf.

Some clubs just don't have the experience ex players to coach/manage a senior team, and until they do they might just go outside.

Some clubs are really successful with outside managers rather than home managers and that's been proven on quite a few occasions recently
So it is ok to forego the founding principles of the association in order to achieve success or to make a quick buck?
For managers anyway but not for players.

I see.

As long as the club is not paying, me personally I've no issues with it

Who's making a quick buck? Have you ever managed a senior team? There's nothing quick about it, I'd say it's worse than refereeing, I've done both I know which had less hassle.

Again for players being 'paid' you'd have to be a fool to think that it hasn't went on or won't continue, is it right? no, but if someone is willing to pay for it more fool him, just as long as the club isn't.

As for forgoing the founding principles of the association, I haven't, I've never paid nor set on a committee that has agreed to it.

I'm only debating, what's your way of fixing the current problems and what's Crokes way of dealing with it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 01, 2020, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 01, 2020, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 03:33:19 PM
Waffle. In summary, pay money to get a better manager.

As I say, would you be happy to extend that to players?

You cant apply your reasons to every club in the county. Each one has a variety of circumstances.

Clubs are generally restricted to the players in their parish,  so  u cant  really extend that to players - they should strive to play for their clubs and they generally pay the club fof the pleasure  via their membership .
Leaving aside the practicality of paying players to come in, are you in favour in principle?

I wouldnt accept a player  getting paid to play for his club.
But I accept the fact that some clubs have to  look outside their club for a manager who expects to be compensated for his time.
Ideally, ever club should be self sufficient in this regard,  but every club is at a different stage of coaching development, despite the on going  coaching programmes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 05:58:47 PM
Close the loophole then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2020, 05:58:47 PM
Close the loophole then.
How do you do that? It's almost impossible while people deem it acceptable behaviour.

Does Croke Park accept it?

If they come down on these actions how long will it be allowed to continue?

If managers have to be ex players and paid members of a club that's one way.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 01, 2020, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 05:54:25 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 01, 2020, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 01, 2020, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2020, 03:33:19 PM
Waffle. In summary, pay money to get a better manager.

As I say, would you be happy to extend that to players?

You cant apply your reasons to every club in the county. Each one has a variety of circumstances.

Clubs are generally restricted to the players in their parish,  so  u cant  really extend that to players - they should strive to play for their clubs and they generally pay the club fof the pleasure  via their membership .
Leaving aside the practicality of paying players to come in, are you in favour in principle?

I wouldnt accept a player  getting paid to play for his club.
But I accept the fact that some clubs have to  look outside their club for a manager who expects to be compensated for his time.
Ideally, ever club should be self sufficient in this regard,  but every club is at a different stage of coaching development, despite the on going  coaching programmes.
Every club is in a different stage of their development in many regards. Some clubs have a better half back line than others, that doesn't mean clubs should be looking to outside players to strengthen it. You play the best hand you're dealt. Breaking the rules undermining the ethos of the association through underhanded payments shouldn't be the go to option.

With good coaching from your manager , youd expect a player to improve , so long as the coach knows what they are doing and that is the conundrum for many clubs . A good coaching system takes time to evolve and improve.

I have no interest  in players being head- hunted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 01, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
i look at Creggan to show why it doesnt work. For the record ive nothing against Creggan club, in fact they have made good strides to promote all 3 codes within themselves.

But, and there's always a but, they have thrown money (or an outside source has - i cant obviously confirm this) on outside men to come in and take their senior football team to try and bring success. It hasnt other than a few league titles which count for nothing imo.

For me personally i see that as an utter waste of time and money, time and money that would of been better vested into coaching and improving  the existing structures within the club itself. Obviously there will be people who disagree and thing its a good idea and that the right person wasnt there within the club to take the job on but ive yet to see a manager win a football or hurling championship for a club.

Its the lads and girls who have come through the underage set up with the help of coaches and managers that got them to that point. those people helped them get there and its those people you invest in so that they dont feel like its a waste of time or they are unappreciated for doing it all for free.

I was approached a few seasons back to take a senior camogie team in Derry. It was paid work but i turned it down to take on something else in my club for free at underage. Its your own club, its what your brought up supporting and playing for and money cant compare to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 01, 2020, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 01, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
i look at Creggan to show why it doesnt work. For the record ive nothing against Creggan club, in fact they have made good strides to promote all 3 codes within themselves.

But, and there's always a but, they have thrown money (or an outside source has - i cant obviously confirm this) on outside men to come in and take their senior football team to try and bring success. It hasnt other than a few league titles which count for nothing imo.

For me personally i see that as an utter waste of time and money, time and money that would of been better vested into coaching and improving  the existing structures within the club itself. Obviously there will be people who disagree and thing its a good idea and that the right person wasnt there within the club to take the job on but ive yet to see a manager win a football or hurling championship for a club.

Its the lads and girls who have come through the underage set up with the help of coaches and managers that got them to that point. those people helped them get there and its those people you invest in so that they dont feel like its a waste of time or they are unappreciated for doing it all for free.

I was approached a few seasons back to take a senior camogie team in Derry. It was paid work but i turned it down to take on something else in my club for free at underage. Its your own club, its what your brought up supporting and playing for and money cant compare to it.
Agree with your take on this and Now Creggan are in the habit of doing it its then hard to stop. Great club Naomh Eanna is in many ways, they Too seem to making same mistake and will find hard to turn back to their own having sent the message out that their coaches arent up to scratch. Like you have to back an inexperienced player and be Patient you should do the same with a manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2020, 11:41:39 PM
Different subject altogether...but wasnt that a superb evenings entertainment last night by the Mc Curry family that was streamed live during the lockdown to provide funds for a most worthy cause. Big shout out to Sean Kelly one more time and to Big Martin Mc Carry the county IT officer. Still 600 online viewing at 1am and a good few thousand pounds raised in the night.

Would any other county have a PR set up like ours??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on May 04, 2020, 08:06:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2020, 11:41:39 PM
Different subject altogether...but wasnt that a superb evenings entertainment last night by the Mc Curry family that was streamed live during the lockdown to provide funds for a most worthy cause. Big shout out to Sean Kelly one more time and to Big Martin Mc Carry the county IT officer. Still 600 online viewing at 1am and a good few thousand pounds raised in the night.

Would any other county have a PR set up like ours??

Fair play to them near 20k raised since lock down I think I saw, great work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 04, 2020, 09:08:34 AM
Ans a wee bit of hope of a proper club season from recent Irish govt statements :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 11, 2020, 10:39:07 AM
Good To see GAA president on sunday Game last night commit to not leaving the 6 counties out if the law is different to the 26 counties about playing sport - I'd say there are plenty who would sell us out to get a championShip played.

He seemed to be saying National League would not be finished which is hard on us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 14, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
Strange week in GAA circles.
John Horan saying unlikely to be matches this year, Sir Lord Cavanagh OBE with a forelock touch, CPA poll with small majority of players willing to return to playing and training this year, Cork Jonty superfan passing away,  massive potential black hole in GAA finances. 
Any good news out there in Antrim.... excluding senior managers on 80% furlough, committee's taking teams and physios back working in NHS.. Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 14, 2020, 10:56:16 PM
Sean Cavanagh doesn't know difference between nationality and jurisdiction. Good news is we are best volunteer organisation In world and will outlast professional sports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 23, 2020, 07:50:00 PM
All very quiet in The GAA world. Anyone some good news or something different to report, I'm fed up being sad and dancing with my sister. Cmon lads give us a few stories about illegal pitch usage, any transfer rumours and how managers are managing on furlough... Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2020, 10:22:37 PM
McGourtys have come back to the county set up apart from CJ, he's signed for Ardboe and Tyrone. Damien Cassidy still getting 100k a year in Toome and a years supply of eels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 24, 2020, 10:24:24 AM
Tough times  here my Good/Bad GAA news

Good - pitches looking greaT / players gettign all injuries cleared up / shouldnt hear about burnout for a long time / charity fundraising

Bad - GAA wanting to take return to action Slower than Govt advice / Irish News snorefest

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 26, 2020, 12:39:19 AM
Thanks Kenny : shafting club players. Elitist crap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2020, 06:27:12 PM
I read this earlier wondering who the hell kenny was until I saw an article on Lenny's comments.

Inter county really should not come back first. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 27, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
Really Lenny? everyone is locked down and stir crazy and you want the few to get out and about and back to normal - wise up and Think of others
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2020, 10:20:29 AM
Anyone put up the interview?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 27, 2020, 10:27:46 AM
It's on BBC NI Sport website Darren.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 27, 2020, 10:27:46 AM
It's on BBC NI Sport website Darren.

Read it, I see his view on it, less hassle for 32 ' teams' than thousands of teams starting back right across the country.

Personally I want it back but when it's safe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 27, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
Come on MR2 stop closing ranks with your club matE. 
First priority is getting the kids back out before the adults
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2020, 11:12:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 27, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
Come on MR2 stop closing ranks with your club matE. 
First priority is getting the kids back out before the adults

You didn't read my post then? I said I want it back, when it's safe. I can see his point because it's safer to look after 32 county teams, rather than thousands of kids and adult players.

In your view you want kids back, that's fine. That's your view, I just want people to play once it's safe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 28, 2020, 12:42:16 PM
I do undeRstand its easier to get less teams out I Just think all GAA energies should be getting used on plans to get the kids on pitches again and not on small number of adults by comparison - Lenny was just me me me - not like him actually
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2020, 09:36:26 PM
Just listened to Whitey and Anto there in conversation about our victory over Down in 2000. What a day that was. Thanks for bringing back the memories. Brian Hugh and JC were a very good management team, all great passionate Antrim Gaa men.


I was taking a training session with Antrim under 16s that morning and after it was over we all headed down to Casement for the game. I told them to meet outside the gate and we would all walk in together. I pulled up with 200 Antrim Flags I had got made during the week and gave all the players a batch each to give away to Antrim supporters in the crowd. That was the time no one would have bought a flag so I think the players might have got some surprise when they ran onto the pitch and seen the colour. The truth was we knew it was on the cards. Antrim had beaten Galway two weeks before in a tough pre championship challenge down in Galway, so I wasnt surprised. I think it was Barney Eastwood who paid for the flags in the end. What a day...I saw a lot of tears being shed that the monkey was finally off our back. A great group who stood even taller a few weeks later in another classic against Derry. The best of times...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 28, 2020, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 28, 2020, 09:36:26 PM
Just listened to Whitey and Anto there in conversation about our victory over Down in 2000. What a day that was. Thanks for bringing back the memories. Brian Hugh and JC were a very good management team, all great passionate Antrim Gaa men.


I was taking a training session with Antrim under 16s that morning and after it was over we all headed down to Casement for the game. I told them to meet outside the gate and we would all walk in together. I pulled up with 200 Antrim Flags I had got made during the week and gave all the players a batch each to give away to Antrim supporters in the crowd. That was the time no one would have bought a flag so I think the players might have got some surprise when they ran onto the pitch and seen the colour. The truth was we knew it was on the cards. Antrim had beaten Galway two weeks before in a tough pre championship challenge down in Galway, so I wasnt surprised. I think it was Barney Eastwood who paid for the flags in the end. What a day...I saw a lot of tears being shed that the monkey was finally off our back. A great group who stood even taller a few weeks later in another classic against Derry. The best of times...

Class BS

If only we'd more like you

Class day...minor match roasting, senior game in a deluge and hailstones
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 06, 2020, 07:37:10 PM
Was down at Musgrave today with the dog and a soccer team was training on one of ST brigids pitches. the Pitches are in terrible state and looks lije lots of people having been using them. I suppose bigger fences only solution
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2020, 02:18:09 PM
Bs any comments on the saffron Gael's portglenone best 15?? I would expect it to provoke some debate haha.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
To be fair it's a good selection I wouldnt have any major problem with it ITG. Kevin Kidd himself (the author) would definitely have made it if someone else had been writing it. I liked the way he said Tony Convery was the finest ever. I would share that view too from what I've seen..although Tony Mc Atamney was out on his own for the decade he gave Antrim and Ulster as well as Casements. Kevin Madden was something else too for a few big years before his condition stopped him from playing on. Good to see Niall Breslin there too...I'll contend that if him and Alastair Mc Donnell (what a player - captain Antrim minors for 3 years) there would have been a few more medals around.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2020, 07:16:44 PM
It threw up a few discussions within our WhatsApp group when our clubs best 15 went up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2020, 07:38:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 07, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
To be fair it's a good selection I wouldnt have any major problem with it ITG. Kevin Kidd himself (the author) would definitely have made it if someone else had been writing it. I liked the way he said Tony Convery was the finest ever. I would share that view too from what I've seen..although Tony Mc Atamney was out on his own for the decade he gave Antrim and Ulster as well as Casements. Kevin Madden was something else too for a few big years before his condition stopped him from playing on. Good to see Niall Breslin there too...I'll contend that if him and Alastair Mc Donnell (what a player - captain Antrim minors for 3 years) there would have been a few more medals around.

Yeah there were a few boys peaked or traveled quite young. Always thought Paul storey was superb too but seemed to drop off the scene for whatever reason. I would have played against these boys more from underage. Very good selection though.

It's a great idea mr. Not too many pre noughties players on st galls team which I am sure ruffled a few feathers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on June 08, 2020, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 06, 2020, 07:37:10 PM
Was down at Musgrave today with the dog and a soccer team was training on one of ST brigids pitches. the Pitches are in terrible state and looks lije lots of people having been using them. I suppose bigger fences only solution


St Brigids (Committee?) Members down at Musgrave tonight I see, asking people to clear both pitches.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 09, 2020, 09:50:37 AM
very hard to control pitches when there's no one around to keep an eye on it all the time sadly.

we had to put individuals off ours at the very start of this but since then no one has been on using them. Its just a case of continuously putting that message out there that no one is allowed to use them or train on them.

Thankfully its not long to go now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 09, 2020, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 09, 2020, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 09, 2020, 09:50:37 AM
very hard to control pitches when there's no one around to keep an eye on it all the time sadly.

we had to put individuals off ours at the very start of this but since then no one has been on using them. Its just a case of continuously putting that message out there that no one is allowed to use them or train on them.

Thankfully its not long to go now!
The individuals on your pitch are likely to have been members or have some association with your club/community. The Brigid's problem is that their pitch is in the middle of a busy public park. It's going to be difficult to get the message to every Tom, Dick & Harry. It's going to be even more difficult to get them to care.

Aw def i agree with that, its much more difficult for them to keep folk off their pitch.

on a better note its good to see the walk way busy there this morning around ours. I was around it there this morning and theres a good few taking advantage of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 09, 2020, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 09, 2020, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 09, 2020, 09:50:37 AM
very hard to control pitches when there's no one around to keep an eye on it all the time sadly.

we had to put individuals off ours at the very start of this but since then no one has been on using them. Its just a case of continuously putting that message out there that no one is allowed to use them or train on them.

Thankfully its not long to go now!
The individuals on your pitch are likely to have been members or have some association with your club/community. The Brigid's problem is that their pitch is in the middle of a busy public park. It's going to be difficult to get the message to every Tom, Dick & Harry. It's going to be even more difficult to get them to care.

The major problem for St Brides is that I'm not sure it's really a 'GAA' pitch as the council own it. Would Croke be able wield power over council pitches? It would be hard and unfair to penalise a club in these circumstances

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 09, 2020, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 09, 2020, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 09, 2020, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 09, 2020, 09:50:37 AM
very hard to control pitches when there's no one around to keep an eye on it all the time sadly.

we had to put individuals off ours at the very start of this but since then no one has been on using them. Its just a case of continuously putting that message out there that no one is allowed to use them or train on them.

Thankfully its not long to go now!
The individuals on your pitch are likely to have been members or have some association with your club/community. The Brigid's problem is that their pitch is in the middle of a busy public park. It's going to be difficult to get the message to every Tom, Dick & Harry. It's going to be even more difficult to get them to care.

The major problem for St Brides is that I'm not sure it's really a 'GAA' pitch as the council own it. Would Croke be able wield power over council pitches? It would be hard and unfair to penalise a club in these circumstances
Sorry, I didn't realise the council owned it. In that case, I'm not sure why their members would give much of a shite that people are on it.

I think they have a management agreement with the council. The council maintain the pitch but ultimately St Brides are still responsible for who uses it.?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
I doubt Croke Park would actually do anything when non members have climbed a fence and played soccer on a 'council' pitch

Jesus slow news days! Non story be different if your manager held a proper training session on their own pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2020, 10:00:21 PM
They can't be policed 24 7. As long as it's not "sanctioned " or encouraged I am sure not much would be done. Plenty of pitches very open so difficult to police.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2020, 07:28:22 AM
Young fellas climbing over a gate and kicking a ball around. What is West Belfast coming to. That place is in disarray. Wouldnt have seen behaviour like that when our generation was that age!

Should be emergency powers drafted to swoop as many of those lads and put them away for a long time for terrorising the community.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 10, 2020, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 10, 2020, 07:28:22 AM
Young fellas climbing over a gate and kicking a ball around. What is West Belfast coming to. That place is in disarray. Wouldnt have seen behaviour like that when our generation was that age!

Should be emergency powers drafted to swoop as many of those lads and put them away for a long time for terrorising the community.

Was thinking the same thing. Though it would be frustrating arriving back and the pitch not being in good shape before games start back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2020, 09:43:20 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 10, 2020, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 10, 2020, 07:28:22 AM
Young fellas climbing over a gate and kicking a ball around. What is West Belfast coming to. That place is in disarray. Wouldnt have seen behaviour like that when our generation was that age!

Should be emergency powers drafted to swoop as many of those lads and put them away for a long time for terrorising the community.

Was thinking the same thing. Though it would be frustrating arriving back and the pitch not being in good shape before games start back.

The main pitch in musgrave is yellow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 10, 2020, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 10, 2020, 07:28:22 AM
Young fellas climbing over a gate and kicking a ball around. What is West Belfast coming to. That place is in disarray. Wouldnt have seen behaviour like that when our generation was that age!

Should be emergency powers drafted to swoop as many of those lads and put them away for a long time for terrorising the community.
ITs not young fellas jumping a fence I've an issue with its organised training by other sports - its  brass necked and dont think GAA teams would do it - I know St Brigets have plenty of money but not fair to be picking up a repair bill either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 10, 2020, 02:20:45 PM
I think that Belfast Corporation have furloughed syaff and they are now unable to maintain pitches as they would normally do.
I also heard that staff from parks Sept have been tasked with tidying up the lough shore after after last week's gorse fire.
I agree that St Brides should not be left to foot any repair bills
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 16, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
Well lads, I see that Derry have announced champo structure. Any insight into what's happening in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2020, 04:42:02 PM
Those saffron gael best ever club teams are some nonsense eh  ;)

Just joking - they are a great read particularly at this time. Hope some people on here paid attention to today's one. ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 16, 2020, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 16, 2020, 04:42:02 PM
Those saffron gael best ever club teams are some nonsense eh  ;)

Just joking - they are a great read particularly at this time. Hope some people on here paid attention to today's one. ;D

Some bribes handed out 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2020, 08:12:22 PM
The picks for all the teams have been great, and stirred some banter on clubs own private pages!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2020, 08:19:28 PM
Great idea. Really enjoyed reading them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 16, 2020, 09:36:27 PM
Is that the first father son combination
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2020, 10:01:27 PM
The mcveighs? Maybe on the one team. There's a corner forward there who may have had a son on the portglenone team too. I think anyway?

I mind playing against them two mcveighs in the one team when Sean was young.  The da was a hardy boy then. I never saw enough of Sean but I suspect at club level he would have been too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 16, 2020, 10:18:17 PM
Yes the delargys
Is gerry mccann the father of barney and bugsy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2020, 11:14:44 PM
Lol. Gerry Mc Cann number 14 is Barney and Peter's brother...but you're not wrong so work that riddle out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2020, 11:24:02 PM
Mc Canns were all gooduns tbh. Enda was same age as me...I couldn't have laced his boots...but he badly injured a knee in a car accident coming home from Mc Naughtons in Waterfoot one Sunday night and it never properly mended. Gerard Barney Peter  and Paul all wore Saffron at some stage, but for me Enda was the best of the lot. A certain county star of the future for a long time if it hadn't been for the accident. Their sister Mary is the wife of Mickey and mother of Sean and Rory. Great clan they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2020, 07:14:29 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 16, 2020, 10:18:17 PM
Yes the delargys
Is gerry mccann the father of barney and bugsy

;D Two of them boys would do some laughing and one not so much ;D Never heard of Enda.

Is Sean not mickey's son and they were both on that team?

[Edit] ignore I just read your post properly BS. So two father and son combinations then that I have seen. Surprised st johns or someone like that wouldn't have one but I guess depends on the era of who picked it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2020, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2020, 07:14:29 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 16, 2020, 10:18:17 PM
Yes the delargys
Is gerry mccann the father of barney and bugsy

;D Two of them boys would do some laughing and one not so much ;D Never heard of Enda.

Is Sean not mickey's son and they were both on that team?

[Edit] ignore I just read your post properly BS. So two father and son combinations then that I have seen. Surprised st johns or someone like that wouldn't have one but I guess depends on the era of who picked it.

We'd have had a couple of father son combinations on both our senior teams no doubt, but its all personal choice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2020, 08:57:23 PM
If the hairdressers aRe opening it must full steam ahead for CUl Camps ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on June 19, 2020, 08:34:02 AM
See the county released a tweet to say plans for league and championship to be released today, I thought it would just be championship, suppose league be good too, as much football as possible for lads, Tyrone seem to have a good model, though easier for them cause they don't have hurling to factor in which we obviously do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 19, 2020, 10:26:59 AM
talk of football being a group stage with knockout after they are finished. League to start when championship finishes for both codes minus county players.

Heard that hurling will be run first tho again that was only chat at the start of the week.

Personally i wouldnt want underage back till further down the line and just play senior games. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 19, 2020, 07:51:33 PM
SFC   3  teams in  3 GROUPS , 4 in another  Qtr , Semi & Final
IFC     6 teams in 2 groups ,semis &   final
JFC    as IFC.. 5 teams per group

Home matches and away matches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 19, 2020, 08:01:50 PM
6 or 7 league matches during inter county season .
No relegation or promotion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on June 20, 2020, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: Peter john on June 20, 2020, 04:09:04 PM
What's the point in league football if there is no promotion or relegation
True, league games will be played like friendlies i would imagine, especially since they come after the championship and there are no implications on the results
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 20, 2020, 06:36:02 PM
And they will be played in autumn and winter with no county men - madness 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 20, 2020, 06:42:35 PM
Would everyone be happy enough with finishing the season after the championship? The league might not have appetite at that stage but then with fellas not having much football they might be glad of a few league games. I like the championship format that they have planned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2020, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 20, 2020, 06:36:02 PM
And they will be played in autumn and winter with no county men - madness

If there is no Promotion or relegation then playing without your county players it won't make a pile of difference surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 20, 2020, 08:12:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 19, 2020, 10:26:59 AM
talk of football being a group stage with knockout after they are finished. League to start when championship finishes for both codes minus county players.

Heard that hurling will be run first tho again that was only chat at the start of the week.

Personally i wouldnt want underage back till further down the line and just play senior games.
You are very hard on the kids DR. I don't think they will be any Worse at social distancing Thsn adults with the adrenaline running . The kids need it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 21, 2020, 12:16:30 PM

Dual club players will suffer with the fixtures recently issued . I was hoping for straight knock out for championship and then league to cater for majority of players to get games and Co players to be released. It's gonna be tough for a lot of teams and that's before injuries, suspensions etc. Think we deserved better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 23, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
I hear they are Redoing the fixTures after the backlash and the changes in the GAA deadlines. There is a bit of 26/6 divide at the moment and I hope it is temporary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 23, 2020, 04:43:27 PM
Championship for winning and the league for playing...getting a few games in. A month ago we didnt know if a ball was going to be kicked this year. Now we have club and county championships, a league for club players for a bit of enjoyment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on June 23, 2020, 04:50:43 PM
Fixtures got updated. Bit more spread out which is good to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 24, 2020, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 20, 2020, 08:12:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 19, 2020, 10:26:59 AM
talk of football being a group stage with knockout after they are finished. League to start when championship finishes for both codes minus county players.

Heard that hurling will be run first tho again that was only chat at the start of the week.

Personally i wouldnt want underage back till further down the line and just play senior games.
You are very hard on the kids DR. I don't think they will be any Worse at social distancing Thsn adults with the adrenaline running . The kids need it

it seems that way but im looking at it from a responsibility of a club perspective for them. theres an awful bit of pressure on a vol to look after them and make sure they adhere to the rules and guidelines. should anything happen then who will get the blame? it will be the club, covid officer, coach etc who will get blamed by parents - ignoring the fact that they could/might get it anywhere - the club will be the easy way out as they provided somewhere for them to be together.

im a massive advocate of investing in our youth through development of them at school, improving our coaches, spending the investment in them rather than paying a mercenary manager for senior teams and ive been consistent on that, but i believe in protecting them and those who will be looking after them as well.

ive seen the arrangements for the adult teams to return to train in our club and its very strict and has to be run perfectly so as to ensure that it will work and wont cause any potential overlaps if theres other teams there and to then throw 30 kids into the mix is just too much.

let the senior set up run to the end of july and if things are still as good, if not better, then we can get them back again and out playing again. as has been said before, if parents arent comfortable with sending their kids to school and their safety then how can they feel safe sending them to play a close contact sport, it cant be one or the other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2020, 10:37:04 AM
Outdoors vs indoors though DR. Big difference in risk based on what you read. (How accurate that is though who knows)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 27, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
So counties aren't to have access to club players unTil club championship is over but Croke isn't going to punish anyone who ignores this ... this is Nonsense which looks like a lack of Backbone....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 28, 2020, 09:48:09 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0627/1150059-common-sense-needed-on-county-access-to-club-players/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on June 28, 2020, 06:51:56 PM
Several counties have been training for weeks now. Insurance is no issue as players can rock up next club sessions and say injury happened there. With such a lenient and hapless response from croke park to there own rules its no wonder clubs all over are flouting covid guidance. Total lack of desire to enforce there own rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 29, 2020, 06:27:54 PM
Providing guidelines and instructions for your organisation then undermining them with no punishment for non-compliance smacks of corruption ie morally bankrupt. If the big wigs in Croker do it this trickles down to county boards and then club committees. Not playing by your rules breads mistrust and all the pokers will be eating from the same trough. George Orwell eat your heart out. You cab bet tat there'll be junkets and jamborees galore as the volunteer body watches as Rome burns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2020, 07:48:37 PM
Get involved, change it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 29, 2020, 08:14:18 PM
I must do that, von Ribbentrop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
would a referee Tell the players the playing rules and then say he wasn't going to enforce them? This is Father ted stuff - Wise Up Croke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2020, 11:01:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
would a referee Tell the players the playing rules and then say he wasn't going to enforce them? This is Father ted stuff - Wise Up Croke

That happens a lot  :D

It's a completely new environment since Covid, let's see what happens and maybe fix things as we go along as it's ever changing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on June 30, 2020, 10:41:28 AM
Well Milltown, have you received your appointments for the games yet? Some tasty ones in prospect which I am sure you will like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 30, 2020, 11:11:00 AM
Craggy Island it is then - next time a club member Breaks a rule and is pulled by committee he should just say ' I didn't thnk you were enforcing that rule'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 30, 2020, 09:33:38 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/it-is-hypocrisy-michael-duignan-blasts-the-gaa-and-inter-county-managers-over-training-row-39326808.html

Not Just a slabber from Belfast dismayed with Croke on this - are we grassroots or elitist organisation?  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2020, 09:41:59 PM
I think the last few weeks, this last one in particular,  have answered that question  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2020, 08:30:33 PM
Are ROssa putting up a stand? Fair play to them as I don't think there are many grants about - their memBers must be stepping up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 06, 2020, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2020, 11:01:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
would a referee Tell the players the playing rules and then say he wasn't going to enforce them? This is Father ted stuff - Wise Up Croke

That happens a lot  :D

It's a completely new environment since Covid, let's see what happens and maybe fix things as we go along as it's ever changing.
The U turn has been forced - think you were at a table for 1 defending this MR2 ! 2 weeks to matches Happy days!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 07, 2020, 01:02:02 PM
What about Casements away in Donegal at the weekend playing a game.  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 07, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
That is permissible under current regulations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 07, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 07, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
That is permissible under current regulations

Yeah, just such a shame that they had to travel that far to get a game, was hoping wed have come into line with the south in this area. Fair play to them, shows some commitment to travel that for a challenge game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 07, 2020, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 07, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 07, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
That is permissible under current regulations

Yeah, just such a shame that they had to travel that far to get a game, was hoping wed have come into line with the south in this area. Fair play to them, shows some commitment to travel that for a challenge game

With the current  SF -DUP standoff   I think it has been put on the long finger !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 07, 2020, 08:24:21 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 07, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 07, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
That is permissible under current regulations

Yeah, just such a shame that they had to travel that far to get a game, was hoping wed have come into line with the south in this area. Fair play to them, shows some commitment to travel that for a challenge game

With the current  SF -DUP standoff   I think it has been put on the long finger !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2020, 10:12:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 07, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 07, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
That is permissible under current regulations

Yeah, just such a shame that they had to travel that far to get a game, was hoping wed have come into line with the south in this area. Fair play to them, shows some commitment to travel that for a challenge game

Could have went to Louth, 60 minutes away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 12, 2020, 10:46:24 AM
R antrim the only county in thr north to cancel Cul Camp This year? Always a great event for attracting youngsters to our gamEs. U would have thought by August you could have done something and Gaelfast must be back soon with furlough ending soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 12, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
Don't know what's going on re CulCamp in other counties but agree with decision not to hold in Antrim. Too much at stake for everyone involved. Staffed mostly by volunteers, can't see these guys running around in PPE and Galefist still likely to be furloughed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 12, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 12, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
Don't know what's going on re CulCamp in other counties but agree with decision not to hold in Antrim. Too much at stake for everyone involved. Staffed mostly by volunteers, can't see these guys running around in PPE and Galefist still likely to be furloughed
What are u talking about Bin Ball? Kids training has been allowed since end of June with no PPE in sight!! Full senior matches next week too with no mention of PPE - have you been asleep for a few weeks????? Summer schemes with Smaller groups are being advetised left right and centre
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 12, 2020, 11:42:53 PM
Love your enthusiasm BF GAA but you're over optimistic. Stay Alert and think safety first. Normally 100 kids go to CulCamp, who'd be responsible for taking care in your club. Perhaps 200 weans would be interested as majority holidays are cancelled.  Most serious clubs have PPE, sanitisers etc readily available. I hope that's not the typical approach of city clubs, if it is then please hand yourselves in. You're adopting a light touch approach to Covid19 and any slip up at your club could be catastrophic with the minimum impact being a 2 week self isolation period for the entire club and perhaps others. 3 clubs isolated in Cork this wee. Wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 14, 2020, 10:00:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 12, 2020, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 12, 2020, 10:46:24 AM
R antrim the only county in thr north to cancel Cul Camp This year? Always a great event for attracting youngsters to our gamEs. U would have thought by August you could have done something and Gaelfast must be back soon with furlough ending soon
Tyrone not doing them either.

Neither are Down thankfully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on July 17, 2020, 09:30:12 AM
Any information anywhere on juvenille games guidelines

With u16 & Minor games starting over the next few weeks

What are the guidelines for travel to away fixtures ?

I assume each player has to make his own way .. No lift sharing unless from the same family ?

Are family members who supply the lift allowed into the home teams ground ?

Are family members who supply the lift allowed to watch the game ?

If they are not allowed into the ground or to spectate are they expected to just park on the road and wait for a few hours (obviously depends on how far away the game js)

Has anyone seen or got guidelines on this ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 17, 2020, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: Flanker on July 17, 2020, 09:30:12 AM
Any information anywhere on juvenille games guidelines

With u16 & Minor games starting over the next few weeks

What are the guidelines for travel to away fixtures ?

I assume each player has to make his own way .. No lift sharing unless from the same family ?

YES AND YES

Are family members who supply the lift allowed into the home teams ground ?

NO

Are family members who supply the lift allowed to watch the game ?

NO

If they are not allowed into the ground or to spectate are they expected to just park on the road and wait for a few hours (obviously depends on how far away the game js)

YES

Has anyone seen or got guidelines on this ? YES Antrim released them earlier and had a presentation last night I think on this exact subject.

Hope that clears it up for you. Crazy to think that any juvenile activity was going to be realistic with the current restrictions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on July 17, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 17, 2020, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: Flanker on July 17, 2020, 09:30:12 AM
Any information anywhere on juvenille games guidelines

With u16 & Minor games starting over the next few weeks

What are the guidelines for travel to away fixtures ?

I assume each player has to make his own way .. No lift sharing unless from the same family ?

YES AND YES

Are family members who supply the lift allowed into the home teams ground ?

NO

Are family members who supply the lift allowed to watch the game ?

NO

If they are not allowed into the ground or to spectate are they expected to just park on the road and wait for a few hours (obviously depends on how far away the game js)

YES

Has anyone seen or got guidelines on this ? YES Antrim released them earlier and had a presentation last night I think on this exact subject.

Hope that clears it up for you. Crazy to think that any juvenile activity was going to be realistic with the current restrictions.

Thanks NAG1 Appreciate that

I can see the benefits of juvenille activity and that the 5 or 6 games will be good for general health and well being but given the current situation are the benefits outweighed by the logistical issues of transport and the boredom for the parent plus the although reasonably limited health risk

Crazy that hundreds of parents will be travelling around the country sitting on country roads for a few hours though

You could have 20 parents driving from Dunloy/Rasharkin/Glenravel to Aghagallen/Aldergrove/Glenavy or similar (circa 4 hours give or take for travel and game)

The 20 away parents could be 5-10metres apart 2-3 metres from the sideline   It would kill the boredom

At least the home team parents could go home for an hour

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Taylor on July 17, 2020, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Flanker on July 17, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 17, 2020, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: Flanker on July 17, 2020, 09:30:12 AM
Any information anywhere on juvenille games guidelines

With u16 & Minor games starting over the next few weeks

What are the guidelines for travel to away fixtures ?

I assume each player has to make his own way .. No lift sharing unless from the same family ?

YES AND YES

Are family members who supply the lift allowed into the home teams ground ?

NO

Are family members who supply the lift allowed to watch the game ?

NO

If they are not allowed into the ground or to spectate are they expected to just park on the road and wait for a few hours (obviously depends on how far away the game js)

YES

Has anyone seen or got guidelines on this ? YES Antrim released them earlier and had a presentation last night I think on this exact subject.

Hope that clears it up for you. Crazy to think that any juvenile activity was going to be realistic with the current restrictions.

Thanks NAG1 Appreciate that

I can see the benefits of juvenille activity and that the 5 or 6 games will be good for general health and well being but given the current situation are the benefits outweighed by the logistical issues of transport and the boredom for the parent plus the although reasonably limited health risk

Crazy that hundreds of parents will be travelling around the country sitting on country roads for a few hours though

You could have 20 parents driving from Dunloy/Rasharkin/Glenravel to Aghagallen/Aldergrove/Glenavy or similar (circa 4 hours give or take for travel and game)

The 20 away parents could be 5-10metres apart 2-3 metres from the sideline   It would kill the boredom

At least the home team parents could go home for an hour

Crazy - the parents could go to the local pub or cinema while they are waiting for their kid  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 17, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
I see John Horan IS complaining with about only 200 of a crowd at games in the 26 and no mention of no crowds allowed in the 6 counties.
He needs reminded we are a 32 couNty organisation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive

Where did you see this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive

Where did you see this?

Part of a managers whatsapp so it was on it, just in when i posted it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive

Where did you see this?

Part of a managers whatsapp so it was on it, just in when i posted it

See if you can get the original source as this is causing us a world of pain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive

Where did you see this?

Part of a managers whatsapp so it was on it, just in when i posted it

See if you can get the original source as this is causing us a world of pain.

Aye I'll try, I know the person who'll have sent that infor works for the council so I'll be surprised if its not correct
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive

Where did you see this?

Part of a managers whatsapp so it was on it, just in when i posted it

See if you can get the original source as this is causing us a world of pain.

Aye I'll try, I know the person who'll have sent that infor works for the council so I'll be surprised if its not correct

Official Antrim GAA
37m ·
Attendance at Youth Games.
Clarification that a parent or guardian who is transporting a child to an official youth fixture up to & including U.18 level, may remain in attendance at the fixture, & won't be considered to have breached the guideline of having No Spectators at games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 04:07:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2020, 02:24:50 PM
up to under 18's parents transporting players to games are 'assisting' and therefore can be admitted to the ground providing they are social distancing and names are recorded.. from the N.I executive

Where did you see this?

Part of a managers whatsapp so it was on it, just in when i posted it

See if you can get the original source as this is causing us a world of pain.

Aye I'll try, I know the person who'll have sent that infor works for the council so I'll be surprised if its not correct

Official Antrim GAA
37m ·
Attendance at Youth Games.
Clarification that a parent or guardian who is transporting a child to an official youth fixture up to & including U.18 level, may remain in attendance at the fixture, & won't be considered to have breached the guideline of having No Spectators at games

Got it there now from the Ulster Coucil;


In the 'Six Counties' no spectators are permitted to attend games. While the maximum number currently permitted at an outdoor gathering is 30, an exemption has been applied to allow that number to be exceeded if you are "taking part in, or assisting with, a sporting event." As supporters have no direct role in the actual staging of the event, it unfortunately means that they cannot be present. It is hoped that there will be some relaxation of this guideline in the near future but, for now, we appeal to supporters to act in the overall public interest and stay away from games. By doing this we hasten the day when we can go back to attending our great games. 


Clarification has been received in relation to parents 'attending' underage games (U-18 and below). In this respect where a parent is transporting a child to play in a game they are deemed to be 'assisting with' the fixture and are therefore permitted to attend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Taylor on July 17, 2020, 04:46:51 PM
Is that anywhere online Johnny?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2020, 06:38:32 PM
Regarding the underage stuff the county have been all over social media about it. They maybe read it here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 17, 2020, 06:41:29 PM
DIVIDED IRELAND - ALTERNATIVE ULSTER

In counties Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan the maximum number of patrons permitted to attend a fixture is 200.  This includes players, match officials and all those personnel with a direct role in the management of the fixture on the day.  This is likely to equate to around 80 to 90 people, so the maximum number of spectators permitted to attend a game will therefore be circa 110/120.

In the 'Six Counties' no spectators are permitted to attend games. While the maximum number currently permitted at an outdoor gathering is 30, an exemption has been applied to allow that number to be exceeded if you are "taking part in, or assisting with, a sporting event."  As supporters have no direct role in the actual staging of the event, it unfortunately means that they cannot be present.

HAVE WE BEEN SOLD OUT AGAIN BY OUR FREE STATE BUDDIES
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 17, 2020, 09:51:59 PM
Yeah at the Start Mr Horan said ' we will be moving at the Speed of the slowest jurisdiction' - that didn't last long!
Croke Park has no time for us Northerners and never has
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2020, 12:14:12 AM
Great to be back, some teams looked sharper than others!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 18, 2020, 09:13:01 AM
Great to see a return to action in reserve football last night and the Saffron Gael reports were as always very welcome
Interesting video on Official Antrim twitter of game at Misgrave clearly shows cameraman on the pitch and obviously the bloke capturing the official video was as well, double standards in evidence here imho.
Anyway, to get seeing a game soon just head to Belfast, drop off the good lady wife at Boucher Rd shop centre and walk into Musgrave (check the fixtures first before setting off).
A council facility with spectators in attendance judging by Off Antrim twitter feed last night - no one can keep you out!  LOLS and great to be back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2020, 09:42:57 AM
Cherryvale the same.

Great to see things back. Agree on the division between north south here. It really shouldn't be.

I haven't seen too many ringers on the reserve teams I have seen thus far lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2020, 10:23:22 AM
Some ringers alright! But sure playing the reserve before senior will get that happening.

Council pitches and pitches with paths around the grounds which don't belong to the club, is not a problem. The club is not breaking the rules. You'll get numpties looking the council to close the parks other areas that have visual access from the road!

In my experience you'll get 20 people down to watch a reserve game, if you're lucky
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
I would expect if you could you'd get more at any game at the minute with people haven't been housebound.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2020, 09:32:49 AM
St JOhns LD a good choice for the streamEd game this weekend - never much between them.
Going to be difficult to enforce that rule if you have been out of country in last 14 days you cant play piece...If you get too much tan you will be under suspicioN !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 23, 2020, 06:02:59 PM
15 club games streamed live, at a very reasonable £3 per game. No one can complain about that. Once again top marks to our county PRO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 23, 2020, 06:18:52 PM
Looks like we will be able to attend the games now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 24, 2020, 06:46:08 AM
How do we see this weekends championship games going. Looking forward to seeing Lamh Dhearg vs St Johns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 24, 2020, 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on July 24, 2020, 06:46:08 AM
How do we see this weekends championship games going. Looking forward to seeing Lamh Dhearg vs St Johns
Yeah thatS the pick of the round. I suppose we dont know how St Johns will be able to manage beiNg the only club challenging for senior titles in both codes. Given this I'd go for LD at home with 2 or 3 to spare. Dont think the teams like each other so will be a bit of needle tOo
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Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 24, 2020, 07:12:47 PM
Hi folks, I know there's no Cul Camp in Antrim this year but do you think we could still collect the registration fees from the weans, add a few balls of money from our rear pockets and invite "Dean Rock Free Taking Project" to come up for 1 session.  We could just afford this. Asking for a friend. LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 24, 2020, 07:59:41 PM
Not tiredNess just LD have focus on 1 code St John on 2. LD will in this Shortest of seasonS had more time with their full team and are at HOme. Part from that not a lot between theM
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Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 26, 2020, 04:55:25 PM
anyonE know why st johns keeper got sent off? killed the Game a wee bit and as predicted not much between theM
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Post by: CK_Redhand on July 26, 2020, 05:42:47 PM
Verbals to umpire after goal.  Ball possibly went out of play in the build up
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Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 26, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
maybe you are Allowed to do that in Derry! thought it was a black card offence anyway
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Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2020, 07:50:34 PM
Johnnies only two from play. Is Fitzpatrick injured? Cunningham not playing either. Still early days I guess.
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Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2020, 08:29:44 PM
Ahoghill has a big win over portglenone. Didn't see that one coming.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 26, 2020, 09:43:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2020, 08:29:44 PM
Ahoghill has a big win over portglenone. Didn't see that one coming.

Went to it. Casements have done some slabbering from last yrs epic replays with LD about this was the year😂😂😂
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Post by: paddyjohn on July 26, 2020, 10:40:05 PM
Hope everybody had tickets  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 27, 2020, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 26, 2020, 09:43:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2020, 08:29:44 PM
Ahoghill has a big win over portglenone. Didn't see that one coming.

Went to it. Casements have done some slabbering from last yrs epic replays with LD about this was the year😂😂😂
Bit of shock all right - anyone at it Or hear what the story of the Match waS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2020, 08:28:30 PM
Group championship matches set up is completely different to knock out games, preparation and application can be different.

Some work it well, some don't!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2020, 09:45:59 PM
Preparation a different ball game this year though. Ho are these groups working? Top two from each into semis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2020, 09:58:30 PM
Spoke to a few PG1 people today, not one complaint about losing. They said they lost to a far better side on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 28, 2020, 10:04:34 AM
Ahoghill thoroughly deserved their victory. Brought championship intensity to the game that Casements simply didnt match in the day. No excuses the better team won.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 30, 2020, 08:56:42 AM
Looking down through championship results last night, can someone explain the point of John Mitchells?  They have played 2 games, scored 1 point and conceded over 90.  That is just a waste of time for everyone involved, the John Mitchells players, the opposition players, all the managers, officials and anyone who bothers to show up to watch.  This has been going on for years and years when you look back through it.  I do believe they maybe play in another more casual league if you like but they seem to enter the Junior championship every year and take a complete pasting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2020, 09:32:35 AM
They don't seem to be in the league this year. I have played against them a few times over the years and there tend to be boys who end up playing who can't even hand to toe the ball. They just struggle to get numbers I think but want to keep the GAA club going there.

Some interesting results last night. Rossa drawing with St Johns a standout one. I thought Creggan might snatch that game too. Cargin looked to struggle a bit with Aghagallon. The usual suspects do look the teams to beat though. I would still imagine cargin are favourites. Intermediate looks interesting. Looks like dunloy, moneyglass, ballymena and st pauls the four front runners for now. Didn't expect Laochra Loch Lao to beat st malachys but the rest of the junior went as expected to. Pearses might be one to watch too.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on July 30, 2020, 09:42:50 AM
I think Mitchells play in the South Antrim league, where they are a little more competitive.  Curious about the Senior and Intermediate championship, can clubs get relegated from each? Will there definitely be no Ulster championship for any of the Senior, Intermediate or Junior grades? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
I don't know how it works tintin.

What stages of knockout do these groups even lead to? I am assuming semi finals so top in every group in senior and top two in intermediate and junior?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 30, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Reading reports of Cargin, how come none of the McCann's playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 30, 2020, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
I don't know how it works tintin.

What stages of knockout do these groups even lead to? I am assuming semi finals so top in every group in senior and top two in intermediate and junior?
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
I don't know how it works tintin.

What stages of knockout do these groups even lead to? I am assuming semi finals so top in every group in senior and top two in intermediate and junior?

SENIOR - Qtr finals
IFC/JFC   - Top 2 in each group into semi s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2020, 11:11:45 AM
I actually just saw a clip of it on twitter(Sidebottom said it was wide).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 30, 2020, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2020, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2020, 09:32:35 AM
They don't seem to be in the league this year. I have played against them a few times over the years and there tend to be boys who end up playing who can't even hand to toe the ball. They just struggle to get numbers I think but want to keep the GAA club going there.

Some interesting results last night. Rossa drawing with St Johns a standout one. I thought Creggan might snatch that game too. Cargin looked to struggle a bit with Aghagallon. The usual suspects do look the teams to beat though. I would still imagine cargin are favourites. Intermediate looks interesting. Looks like dunloy, moneyglass, ballymena and st pauls the four front runners for now. Didn't expect Laochra Loch Lao to beat st malachys but the rest of the junior went as expected to. Pearses might be one to watch too.
Rossa actually beat them. Only the Johnnies' umpire couldn't resist a bit of cheating  ;D. Appeared to be one of our referees too!

Is he still a ref?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 30, 2020, 12:50:56 PM
Casements beat again. Creggan off the mark. Was tempted to go to the Casements game again, but after watching them at the weekend I couldn't see them winning. Decided to watch Cargin and Aghagallon. Cargin have alot of depth in their panel. The players that weren't playing and then the players who went off for injuries. Well over half their championship winning team off from last season and they still won. Aghagallon lively without having any real forward punch, their keeper has a beautiful kickout, is he on the any county squads? But if they couldn't bt them with so many players missing they never will.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 30, 2020, 01:04:31 PM
Was at our game last night v Davitts. Ended up a comfortable win for them.

it shows that when they all train and play together regularly we have a very good side. Seaan Elliott was fantastic as was Keelan molloy.

Sets up a good game on Sunday against Moneyglass tho it isnt a do or die game on the result. Glenravel got another good win to keep them two wins from two as well. Sets the group up well now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on July 30, 2020, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 30, 2020, 12:50:56 PM
Casements beat again. Creggan off the mark. Was tempted to go to the Casements game again, but after watching them at the weekend I couldn't see them winning. Decided to watch Cargin and Aghagallon. Cargin have alot of depth in their panel. The players that weren't playing and then the players who went off for injuries. Well over half their championship winning team off from last season and they still won. Aghagallon lively without having any real forward punch, their keeper has a beautiful kickout, is he on the any county squads? But if they couldn't bt them with so many players missing they never will.
Stewards at Ahoghill and Cargin have a lot to answer for if you've been to both grounds involving different clubs. You're allowed one club's ticket to see only that club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 30, 2020, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on July 30, 2020, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 30, 2020, 12:50:56 PM
Casements beat again. Creggan off the mark. Was tempted to go to the Casements game again, but after watching them at the weekend I couldn't see them winning. Decided to watch Cargin and Aghagallon. Cargin have alot of depth in their panel. The players that weren't playing and then the players who went off for injuries. Well over half their championship winning team off from last season and they still won. Aghagallon lively without having any real forward punch, their keeper has a beautiful kickout, is he on the any county squads? But if they couldn't bt them with so many players missing they never will.
Stewards at Ahoghill and Cargin have a lot to answer for if you've been to both grounds involving different clubs. You're allowed one club's ticket to see only that club.

He's maybe bought tickets for each club or maybe he's a journo?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 30, 2020, 10:18:18 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on July 30, 2020, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 30, 2020, 12:50:56 PM
Casements beat again. Creggan off the mark. Was tempted to go to the Casements game again, but after watching them at the weekend I couldn't see them winning. Decided to watch Cargin and Aghagallon. Cargin have alot of depth in their panel. The players that weren't playing and then the players who went off for injuries. Well over half their championship winning team off from last season and they still won. Aghagallon lively without having any real forward punch, their keeper has a beautiful kickout, is he on the any county squads? But if they couldn't bt them with so many players missing they never will.
Stewards at Ahoghill and Cargin have a lot to answer for if you've been to both grounds involving different clubs. You're allowed one club's ticket to see only that club.

Not complicated, the brother in law had the ticket for the Cargin game and couldn't go, offered it to me 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2020, 12:23:30 AM
So you're not a Cargin man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2020, 08:18:06 AM
Are there rules around this?

What are stewards supposed to do especially if you're an away fan who they don't know? Do they check id? (That is if there are rules in the first place...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2020, 09:05:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 31, 2020, 08:18:06 AM
Are there rules around this?

What are stewards supposed to do especially if you're an away fan who they don't know? Do they check id? (That is if there are rules in the first place...)

Club Covid officer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2020, 09:18:14 AM
If you're not checking symptoms / whether a person should be isolating for people who bought a ticket then why should you be checking it on people who's name isn't on the ticket? I don't know the answer here but I'm not sure the problem?

You've been to two different grounds on two different tickets. Sure what about home and away games for your own team? That's two different grounds.

I think a problem has been brought up where there isn't one perhaps...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 31, 2020, 10:06:32 AM
The 'home' clubs have no responsibility to 'away' supporters. All supporters are advised to wear a mask and bring hand sanitiser. The season ticket is the method used by each club to track and trace in the event of a covid alert. Each club should have a list of ticket holders, match day panels and club officials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2020, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2020, 12:23:30 AM
So you're not a Cargin man?

Actually a 'blow in' with an unhealthy interest in the Gaa and go to lots and lots of games watching many teams both in Antrim Derry Down Tyrone and Armagh. As you've gather the wife and in laws etc from Carlin so would support them, but not exclusively.

The approach in controlling the numbers attending games is sound, as it ensures social distancing, therefore who attends is irrelevant as long as social distancing is respected. But in fact it is at odds with the amount of people who now attend bars, restaurants etc where social distancing under the influence is a fairy tale. Don't mention going into shops without masks🤷‍♂️
See Derry Gaa advertising more tickets for club championship games due to increased attendance based on individual ground risk assessments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on July 31, 2020, 05:12:24 PM
I thought you said you supported Creggan DK  ;)

Next thing you'll be saying your a cargin blow in from bellaghy  ;D

Went to the Creggan Portglenone match on Wednesday night. We never really looked in trouble even when they got the goal. Couldn't believe how far off last years standard PG1 were. Looked like a team with no confidence and no idea how to create chances from play. We played ok but Marty J, 2 conor McCann's and conor small didn't start.

On to Ahoghill at home on Sunday. After their result against PG1 we won't be taking them lightly that's for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 31, 2020, 09:12:45 PM
Really enjoying the championship to datE.
I think we should retain this format next year. EverYone knows the have a number of games before knock out . Anyone disagree ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2020, 09:16:34 PM
I don't think the round robin would work as well if there had been a full league to be honest. However for this year it is a great job yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2020, 10:04:41 PM
Knockout all the way!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 01, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 31, 2020, 09:21:30 PM
It'd be rough on the dual clubs. Last year's championship fixtures were a struggle to fit in without extra games.
I buy that but less league matches could help with that or Less league matches with county players. maybe i'm just enjoying gettinG out of house ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 02, 2020, 03:20:55 PM
Strange game between St. Gall's and St. Enda's. Five points apiece at the half after some really poor stuff from both sides. The heavens opened at the start of the second half with the elements in St. Enda's favour. St. Gall's quickly down to 14 men but went 6 points up. The weather improved and St. Enda's scored 1-05 without reply.

Only recognise about 10% of the names these days but good to see a few of the old guard still knocking about the place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 03, 2020, 09:06:17 AM
Just the 47 points defeat for John Mitchells yesterday, in 3 games they have scored a total of 2 points & conceded a total of 144, giving them a points difference of minus (-) 142 (https://assets.theforum365.com/emoticons/picard.gif)

Why is this being allowed to happen?  I'm not picking on the club but it just seems a complete waste of time for all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 03, 2020, 09:29:58 AM
Can someone throw in the towel then!  The team they played yesterday lost their 1st championship match by 11 points so they had a score difference of -11 going into the game.  After playing John Mitchells yesterday, they now have a +36 score difference LOLOLOLOL.  Makes a bit of a mockery of the thing does it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2020, 12:04:08 AM
Jerome's doing a fine job on the coverage with decent co-commentators. Kerr and McGourty did well. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 05, 2020, 12:39:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 03, 2020, 09:33:15 AM
Obviously they don't want to throw the towel in and they continue to fulfil their fixtures. I wouldn't let it bother you.

Ah here it is a joke. Only a few we all know wanna keep that club entering and its not for the platers benefit.
The players arent up to it and couldnt enjoy the 'sport.'....how can you not score a point in a champiosnip match.....how can you not solo a ball?.

Why should teams have to play them? Let them play south antrim b or whaatever.

that last 3 games is beyond anything ive ever seen at any age or level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 07:13:57 AM
It has been happening for a long time not just this year it's just the group games highlight it more. It was just a bye before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 05, 2020, 08:47:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2020, 12:04:08 AM
Jerome's doing a fine job on the coverage with decent co-commentators. Kerr and McGourty did well. Keep it up.

The commentating on the St.Endas / St.Galls match was poor! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Quotethey are shite but if the GAA was do away with shite football Antrim would have been wrapped up years ago.

;D Funny and sad all at the same time haha.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 05, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
For someThing completely different I notice 2 clubs who have been succesful at juvenile football for 10 years havebt got close to the Div 1 ranks - SarsFields and St Pauls and yet LD and St Johns are top DIV 1 teams with rare juvenile succeses - what you think? similar examples in SW????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 02:37:04 PM
Have they won much that much at underage though? Or how recently are we talking?

If you have a solid senior team you can usually get away with a couple of players a year and not need significant success. On the same note it will be interesting to see how Cargin fare with them having quite a few barren years at minor etc though they now have good teams coming through.

I was talking to a guy from Sarsfields who says they are very young this year. Maybe too much of a big bang approach just with whatever circumstances.

The successful teams of the latter years in SW underage would tend to have made it to division 1. Rasharkin always used to be great at underage and maybe didn't do as much at senior but they have dropped off this last number of years. Ballymena have been improving a lot at underage but look to be moving division one direction too.

Player retention urban v rural maybe a thing there too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 02:56:41 PM
Yeah I would say a bit early too. St Pauls do look to be getting better. I think sarsfields have lost quite a few so will likely get worse before better but will get better I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 05, 2020, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2020, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 05, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
For someThing completely different I notice 2 clubs who have been succesful at juvenile football for 10 years havebt got close to the Div 1 ranks - SarsFields and St Pauls and yet LD and St Johns are top DIV 1 teams with rare juvenile succeses - what you think? similar examples in SW????????
I would have thought it was a bit early for this? In that, Sarsfields and St Paul's juvenile teams haven't come right through yet. I don't recall any minor titles? St Johns are backboned by lads with a couple of minors. LD have lads with an Ulster minor title.
That's right about no minor finals for Sarsfields and Stpauls maybe their boys are being lost at 16/17 - what a wastE of the work at u6 to u16
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 05, 2020, 03:54:19 PM
My summary on city clubs 
LD and Johnnies have been at the top end but fallow years may be ahead of them due to lower underage numbers recently. Don't know what young players have migrated to senior set ups or strength of 2nd teams.
St Teresa's appear to be on slide because low of apparent numbers underage. GnM still battling hard but again don't know about juveniles or reserves. Davitts have been working hard and will get a massive lift from own pitch
.
Watched StPols reserve team recently, a team with a lot of youngsters but they were all on the line as maybe 2 over 50 year olds were actually playing and lads didn't get a run out.
The full back line was younger in age than 1 player.
We called them Dads Army!!.!!

Clubs won't make progress with this policy, youngster will do other sports  and any underage work is pissed up against the wall. PD of Gaelfast did good work for juvenile team and St Paul's improvement could be shortlived.

Don't know who's at fault on these situations. the manager, older players or the club but on the reverse of this if Sarsfields are sticking to young lads then they will defo come out stronger. From memory they had good Feile team to build on as well.
St Galls always bring a few through every year. Rossa, St Endas and St Brigids also reaping benefit from investment in kids and despite Joe Bs ego I don't think he would be allowed to play in place of children!!!!!!!!! LOL
A mixed bag of thoughts from me. Any opinions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 05, 2020, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 02:37:04 PM
Have they won much that much at underage though? Or how recently are we talking?

If you have a solid senior team you can usually get away with a couple of players a year and not need significant success. On the same note it will be interesting to see how Cargin fare with them having quite a few barren years at minor etc though they now have good teams coming through.

I was talking to a guy from Sarsfields who says they are very young this year. Maybe too much of a big bang approach just with whatever circumstances.

The successful teams of the latter years in SW underage would tend to have made it to division 1. Rasharkin always used to be great at underage and maybe didn't do as much at senior but they have dropped off this last number of years. Ballymena have been improving a lot at underage but look to be moving division one direction too.

Player retention urban v rural maybe a thing there too.

Cargin are looking good at underage again! They'll get a few top class players coming out of that minor team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on August 05, 2020, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 07:13:57 AM
It has been happening for a long time not just this year it's just the group games highlight it more. It was just a bye before.
Have Mitchels got any underage structures or where are they based?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
HS would know better. i think they are twinbrook? Not aware of underage structures but don't know the belfast underage scene that well.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
HS would know better. i think they are twinbrook? Not aware of underage structures but don't know the belfast underage scene that well.

Poleglass, no real tradition in that relatively young 'Belfast' outskirts...

Haven't ref'd Mitchels in years and can't remember the last juvenile game either, been a while..

Always said there are too many clubs in Belfast, but I get tradition and members and families wanting to keep it going..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 07:49:37 PM
Are they not a club that have been going years? Gilly mcilhatton is Mitchells isn't he?

[edit] they're going from 1899.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 05, 2020, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 07:49:37 PM
Are they not a club that have been going years? Gilly mcilhatton is Mitchells isn't he?

[edit] they're going from 1899.
Yes oldest club in Belfast - if Gaelfast get off holiday soon they should meet up with them and see what can be done at juveniLe level - have to admire their character in keeping going . there has been rightly big fuss about Greencastle reforming so County/Gaelfast should make same uss over Mitchels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2020, 08:21:15 PM
They got a pitch out in Poleglass maybe 15 years ago or so but I'm not sure they ever used it much. I don't know where their traditional base was but a load of boys from Andytown would have played for them in the 70s & 80s. Has been kept going almost single-handedly by Gilly this last 30 years.

I mind playing on it 15-20 years ago. Some boy was shooting a BB gun at players on the field as we were playing. We weren't sorry we never ended up going back there lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 05, 2020, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2020, 08:21:15 PM
They got a pitch out in Poleglass maybe 15 years ago or so but I'm not sure they ever used it much. I don't know where their traditional base was but a load of boys from Andytown would have played for them in the 70s & 80s. Has been kept going almost single-handedly by Gilly this last 30 years.

I mind playing on it 15-20 years ago. Some boy was shooting a BB gun at players on the field as we were playing. We weren't sorry we never ended up going back there lol.
.  Oldest club in existence in Antrim

John Mitchel's – 1900
John Mitchel's club was formed in the New Lodge Rd area in 1900 and are the oldest team in Antrim. The club moved to the Falls Rd district in 1906. Their headquarters were held in a large military hut on the Willowbank Ground at Broadway. They rejoined the South Antrim Leagues in 1907 as a Football and Hurling club. They were previously only a Hurling Club. The Club went out of existence during the turbulent period of the 1920's, but reformed in 1930 and in 1935 won the South Antrim Junior Hurling Championship.Mitchel's have won many trophies, too numerous to list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 05, 2020, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
HS would know better. i think they are twinbrook? Not aware of underage structures but don't know the belfast underage scene that well.

Poleglass, no real tradition in that relatively young 'Belfast' outskirts...

Haven't ref'd Mitchels in years and can't remember the last juvenile game either, been a while..

Always said there are too many clubs in Belfast, but I get tradition and members and families wanting to keep it going..

How many clubs are there in Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 05, 2020, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 05, 2020, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
HS would know better. i think they are twinbrook? Not aware of underage structures but don't know the belfast underage scene that well.

Poleglass, no real tradition in that relatively young 'Belfast' outskirts...

Haven't ref'd Mitchels in years and can't remember the last juvenile game either, been a while..

Always said there are too many clubs in Belfast, but I get tradition and members and families wanting to keep it going..

How many clubs are there in Belfast?

Lagmore gaels
Mitchels
St Pauls
Sarsfields
Rossa
Lamh Dhearg
St Teresas
Gort Na Mona
St Johns
O 'Ds
St Galls
Davits
Laochra Loch lao
St Endas
Pearses
Ardoyne
East Belfast
Eire og
St Aggies
St Brides

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2020, 08:21:15 PM
They got a pitch out in Poleglass maybe 15 years ago or so but I'm not sure they ever used it much. I don't know where their traditional base was but a load of boys from Andytown would have played for them in the 70s & 80s. Has been kept going almost single-handedly by Gilly this last 30 years.

I can go back to when I was 18 and playing on that pitch in Poleglass! That's not 15 years ago unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 05, 2020, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 05, 2020, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 05, 2020, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
HS would know better. i think they are twinbrook? Not aware of underage structures but don't know the belfast underage scene that well.

Poleglass, no real tradition in that relatively young 'Belfast' outskirts...

Haven't ref'd Mitchels in years and can't remember the last juvenile game either, been a while..

Always said there are too many clubs in Belfast, but I get tradition and members and families wanting to keep it going..

How many clubs are there in Belfast?

Lagmore gaels
Mitchels
St Pauls
Sarsfields
Rossa
Lamh Dhearg
St Teresas
Gort Na Mona
St Johns
O 'Ds
St Galls
Davits
Laochra Loch lao
St Endas
Pearses
Ardoyne
East Belfast
Eire og
St Aggies
St Brides

Anyone else?

St Endas are SW...  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 05, 2020, 11:31:09 PM
And St Brides is a primary school
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 11:34:04 PM
Nearly as many clubs in Belfast as there are in the county!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 11:35:41 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 05, 2020, 11:31:09 PM
And St Brides is a primary school

Forgot Bredagh ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 05, 2020, 11:37:38 PM
St Malachys
Carryduff
Also Dwyers and McDermotts both folded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2020, 08:21:15 PM
They got a pitch out in Poleglass maybe 15 years ago or so but I'm not sure they ever used it much. I don't know where their traditional base was but a load of boys from Andytown would have played for them in the 70s & 80s. Has been kept going almost single-handedly by Gilly this last 30 years.

I can go back to when I was 18 and playing on that pitch in Poleglass! That's not 15 years ago unfortunately
Did Mitchell's own it then? I remember them sort of celebrating getting the pitch. Maybe it just got done up.

Well it was Mitchels that played on it, was a div 2 senior hurling game, we were short on a team and I can remember that both managers played, they were both in their 60's  ;D

Not sure where they played previously to that, I'd assume the falls park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 06, 2020, 10:33:59 AM


Well it was Mitchels that played on it, was a div 2 senior hurling game, we were short on a team and I can remember that both managers played, they were both in their 60's  ;D

Not sure where they played previously to that, I'd assume the falls park
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60 Yr old players.
That's worse than St Paul's DADS ARMY from last week reserve game.  I'd be afraid of a herat attack
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 06, 2020, 10:33:59 AM


Well it was Mitchels that played on it, was a div 2 senior hurling game, we were short on a team and I can remember that both managers played, they were both in their 60's  ;D

Not sure where they played previously to that, I'd assume the falls park
60 Yr old players.
That's worse than St Paul's DADS ARMY from last week reserve game.  I'd be afraid of a herat attack
[/quote]

Was gilly for Mitchels and Pat Sheehan from our club, was in his tan suit too, told him to stay in the corner and be the 15th man, didn't stop him doubling on balls as they made their way into the box!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 06, 2020, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 05, 2020, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 05, 2020, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 05, 2020, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
HS would know better. i think they are twinbrook? Not aware of underage structures but don't know the belfast underage scene that well.

Poleglass, no real tradition in that relatively young 'Belfast' outskirts...

Haven't ref'd Mitchels in years and can't remember the last juvenile game either, been a while..

Always said there are too many clubs in Belfast, but I get tradition and members and families wanting to keep it going..

How many clubs are there in Belfast?

Lagmore gaels
Mitchels
St Pauls
Sarsfields
Rossa
Lamh Dhearg
St Teresas
Gort Na Mona
St Johns
O 'Ds
St Galls
Davits
Laochra Loch lao
St Endas
Pearses
Ardoyne
East Belfast
Eire og
St Aggies
St Brides

Anyone else?

St Endas are SW...  ;)

Is that too many clubs do you reckon or over saturated in certain areas?

You'd imagine Bredagh, East Belfast, Carryduff and St. Brigid's will/can stand steong going forward?

But you'd think in Ireland's second city that all them clubs could field teams at underage and senior etc?

Is there a Trinity Gaels at underage or is that somewhere else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2020, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2020, 02:31:45 PM
The most saturated is west Belfast where you have about 14 clubs. I think west Belfast has somewhere in the region of 90,000 people. I'm sure someone looking from the outside in would be dividing those figures and thinking "Fcuk, we'd love to be working with that" but alas it's never that easy.

Can only go with the numbers that are turning up... clubs actually do have bigger numbers that my day, a lot of that is down to ladies football!

We are donkeys years behind Dublin in harnessing those numbers, Galefast is here to hopefully rectify that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 06, 2020, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2020, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2020, 02:31:45 PM
The most saturated is west Belfast where you have about 14 clubs. I think west Belfast has somewhere in the region of 90,000 people. I'm sure someone looking from the outside in would be dividing those figures and thinking "Fcuk, we'd love to be working with that" but alas it's never that easy.

Can only go with the numbers that are turning up... clubs actually do have bigger numbers that my day, a lot of that is down to ladies football!

We are donkeys years behind Dublin in harnessing those numbers, Galefast is here to hopefully rectify that

True, times are changing.

You'd think underage would be strong enough and at senior then there would be issues re: numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2020, 09:26:48 AM
East Belfast are the current fad for people to attend. After a few years of getting tanked and playing at D4 level you will find people drift off - they always do. Also the large numbers look nice on paper but in reality when you have 40 players and only 15/20 will play it also tests peoples 'commitment' when they arent getting on the pitch.

the feel good factor is all fair and well but the need to be making progress at underage level very quickly and get that in play. without it they wont survive.

I really hope it works out for them and they flourish but i was involved in helping Ballymoney set up the first GAA team with their footballers for a season and its really really hard to sustain it, no matter how many good luck messages you get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2020, 09:38:42 AM
Was such a big thing seeing, and actually playing against that Ballymoney team, think it was played at the school, small enough pitch with barely 15 in attendance.

As you say maintaining this needs to be done from the bottom up and interaction from the schools in at area... otherwise you can't feed into it and eventually it falls apart..

Like you I genuinely wish them well and I hope they have looked at the structures required to achieve a lasting membership and budding future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2020, 09:49:53 AM
I haven't heard much about underage setups etc from them. Interesting about Ballymoney - I'd forgot about them. You would imagine though that there would be significantly more numbers than Ballymoney might have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2020, 09:50:05 AM
yeah they did play there. i played the first season despite only wanting to help them on the coaching side of things. eventually i got dragged out of retirement to play a few games. even played in their first ever win! lol

but it was never getting any support in the local community from nationalists in the town with the fear of reprisals from loyalists in the town. Ballymoney is not a diverse town and its still stuck in the 1970's where the only thing they have is band parades.

I think East Belfast have put the right messages out there online and are saying the right things for them to survive but they need underage structures in play from next season to be able to sustain themselves over the years.

Really hope they do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2020, 09:58:08 AM
I sometimes click into the twitter replies on their tweets and there are still a good few neanderthals out there. The old they name their grounds after terrorists will always be used :( There are "notorious" people on social media who stir things up.

The East Belfast one is interesting with demographics. East Belfast would have a lot of adults have moved in from the country in antrim, tyrone etc etc and that would seem to be their player base just yet. You would hope they could link up with schools for underage. It could end up just being the children of those people and it's a club that just reflects changing demographics as opposed to a club which attracts a lot of cross community but I would hope they get some buy in from cross community too and between the two can maybe move up divisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 07, 2020, 11:44:58 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 07, 2020, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2020, 09:58:08 AM
I sometimes click into the twitter replies on their tweets and there are still a good few neanderthals out there. The old they name their grounds after terrorists will always be used :( There are "notorious" people on social media who stir things up.

The East Belfast one is interesting with demographics. East Belfast would have a lot of adults have moved in from the country in antrim, tyrone etc etc and that would seem to be their player base just yet. You would hope they could link up with schools for underage. It could end up just being the children of those people and it's a club that just reflects changing demographics as opposed to a club which attracts a lot of cross community but I would hope they get some buy in from cross community too and between the two can maybe move up divisions.
That would depend on these people settling there for life. I would imagine a lot of boys from out the country would live in east Belfast in their 20s but look to move home or elsewhere after that.

They could do worse than follow the Bredagh model who hurling wise had mostly relied on people moving into the area to live to play on their adult teams until they put down underage structures and no doubt early days were still reliant on the same families but that has grown now and they're thriving and should be looking upwards with lads who started in their underage ranks making their way onto their senior teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2020, 11:48:25 AM
Yeah JC that's what I could see that happening unless there gets too much unrest for them to continue but I'd be hopeful it won't come to that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 07, 2020, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2020, 09:38:42 AM
Was such a big thing seeing, and actually playing against that Ballymoney team, think it was played at the school, small enough pitch with barely 15 in attendance.

As you say maintaining this needs to be done from the bottom up and interaction from the schools in at area... otherwise you can't feed into it and eventually it falls apart..

Like you I genuinely wish them well and I hope they have looked at the structures required to achieve a lasting membership and budding future

Mind playing against them also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 12:05:12 AM
I hear county chair wrotE a threatening email to the s ClubS to close their social clubs even though tHey are breaking no rules.
He'd be better writing to his own club to stop paying managers which against Gaa rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 10, 2020, 10:19:05 AM
Incoherent email at 12:05am, were you in the Social Club when you heard this perhaps?? Hicccupppp
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 10:21:11 AM
Is it not posted in another thread? Doesn't look overly threatening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on August 10, 2020, 12:09:39 PM
Is there a copy of said email??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 12:22:00 PM
QuoteUlster GAA/Antrim GAA Directive to all club committees

Social Clubs
Advice from Ulster Council is that 99% of our social clubs should not be open as they operate as effective wet houses and not restaurant style operations, I have heard numerous stories of how clubs think they can circumvent guidelines and legislation , so things to consider if wishing to open a bar.

Does your club have adequate facilities with hygiene clearance to adhere to legislation if providing food?


If providing an outdoor beer garden , do you have table service in place, has outdoor beer garden been passed for insurance and meeting council legislation?


Is your social club operating a members only policy and are you logging time and date members enter and exit social club?


Financial viability of opening a social club in this climate, ,(without functions that are not allowed) is very limited , margins are low in social clubs added to this additional staff costs due to waitering service and extra hygiene costs , ask yourself would your social club actually make money in this current climate or is opening your social club actually costing your club money to stay open, I have heard stories of the bar gives us cash flow, Turnover is a lot difference than profit, running a social club to get turnover while it is loosing money is economic madness and no committee should allow this to happen.

Club Shops

Shops can open if you can implement safe guards,
If opening club shop to sell club gear, this can be organised for collection in a timely manner.


If wanting to open shop to sell tea/coffee etc at matches, the reality is you are attracting up to 400 people to one point at a pressure period of time, rush hour is half time, realistically social distancing at our club tea shops is unrealistic as most of them work out of a small container with a hatch or door, I seen one club trying their best , where a person buys cup of tea and then goes to a separate table to put in milk and sugar, but remember all people who bought a cup of tea went to that table and lifted the milk etc , so unless you are 100% sure that you can implement hygiene controls , I would ask you to keep shop shut during matches as precautionary measure .



Changing Rooms/Hall

All indoor facilities are closed except toilets if you have no other toilet options , so no changing in halls , no letting your hall out to five a side , no using hall as it was raining on a training day.

If a club uses indoor facilitates and they have a Covid issue , if a player etc tests positive and has been found to have been indoors in one of our clubs , .i.e. at video analyses or team meeting, this will be judged as close contact by public health authorities and club is a risk of being shut down and being removed from participation in all games and training, per Croke Park advice , Covid is 19 times more likely to spread if indoor usage of clubs, that is why they have closed indoor facilities.


Conclusion

Ask yourself do you or another club executive member want to explain to the press and local community or maybe even a judge , why due to flouting guidance your club is the centre of a Covid outbreak in your community, even worse do you want to have to attend a wake to apologise on behalf of club for being the source of a Covid outbreak that caused someone to die ?



During the eye of the storm when the country was in the Bhearna Bhaoil , CLG stood up and was counted, we seen all that is good about our association, so while we lobbied hard to get our youth back playing games with limited supporters, we agreed to act in a responsible manner, we are not a business , we are not a social club confederation , we are the GAA, who are held in high esteem within our communities , so please remember who you are and what you represent and help keep your community safe, keep up the good work and enjoy your games.

County chair

Is that it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on August 10, 2020, 01:52:24 PM
No real threats there from what I can read??
Very much highlighting potential issues more so than anything else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 02:14:52 PM
When this was first posted, I said there was nothing wrong in what was said...

The only problem I foresee will be... not finishing The championship this season ! One outbreak could spell trouble
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2020, 02:15:22 PM
id agree with that as well. theres nothing threatening there at all, more so its reminding people of the common sense that needs to be adhered to at this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 02:14:52 PM
When this was first posted, I said there was nothing wrong in what was said...

The only problem I foresee will be... not finishing The championship this season ! One outbreak could spell trouble

do you think the inter county scene will end up getting scrubbed at this rate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 10, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 02:14:52 PM
When this was first posted, I said there was nothing wrong in what was said...

The only problem I foresee will be... not finishing The championship this season ! One outbreak could spell trouble

do you think the inter county scene will end up getting scrubbed at this rate?

Just looking at the likes of Kildare for instance.... something like that could hit any county, creating a local lockdown which would last 2 weeks or more.

Fingers crossed it doesn't as the atmosphere and energy at the weekends games and last week was good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 02:41:15 PM
The intercounty season should be scrapped then if club needs more time it needs more time.

As you said before DR it's money but this year is a write off for it.

We've been lucky in antrim thus far that there has been less in the way of cases than there has been in some other counties. Like MR says the localised lockdowns could happen anywhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 10:21:11 AM
Is it not posted in another thread? Doesn't look overly threatening.
several clubs disgusted to have put time and effort into reopening within government guidelines, do nothing wrong, have no cases and then to be told to shut and not confuse turnover with profit ! That coherent enough?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 10:21:11 AM
Is it not posted in another thread? Doesn't look overly threatening.
several clubs disgusted to have put time and effort into reopening within government guidelines, do nothing wrong, have no cases and then to be told to shut and not confuse turnover with profit ! That coherent enough?

It's more coherent than your last post ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 10:21:11 AM
Is it not posted in another thread? Doesn't look overly threatening.
several clubs disgusted to have put time and effort into reopening within government guidelines, do nothing wrong, have no cases and then to be told to shut and not confuse turnover with profit ! That coherent enough?

It's more coherent than your last post ;D
Agreed - Lockdown fatigue and fat thumbs ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
What clubs have social clubs open?

What's the aim of the GAA? To promote happy hour? If they can't do what they are told then fine the said clubs. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
What clubs have social clubs open?

What's the aim of the GAA? To promote happy hour? If they can't do what they are told then fine the said clubs.

Obviously things were not out like that (said email) at the start, and clubs that could open due to having kitchen facilities waiting staff and outside areas, probably felt they they were working within the law... and they were

I completely agree with the chairs view on things and hard to argue against.

The social club is exactly that,  a social hub were members/friends can meet after games to have a pint or two and head home, there's no real money making going on anymore, not since the ceasefire!

Some exceptions of course, that the club does generate much needed funds.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 10, 2020, 06:25:06 PM
Can't argue against county email but found it a little condescending in 'tone'

Does anyone know how many clubs have a social club attached to the club? If they are loss making why would they be operating
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
What clubs have social clubs open?

What's the aim of the GAA? To promote happy hour? If they can't do what they are told then fine the said clubs.

Obviously things were not out like that (said email) at the start, and clubs that could open due to having kitchen facilities waiting staff and outside areas, probably felt they they were working within the law... and they were

I completely agree with the chairs view on things and hard to argue against.

The social club is exactly that,  a social hub were members/friends can meet after games to have a pint or two and head home, there's no real money making going on anymore, not since the ceasefire!

Some exceptions of course, that the club does generate much needed funds.

Any sane thinking person would agree with the chair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
What clubs have social clubs open?

What's the aim of the GAA? To promote happy hour? If they can't do what they are told then fine the said clubs.

Obviously things were not out like that (said email) at the start, and clubs that could open due to having kitchen facilities waiting staff and outside areas, probably felt they they were working within the law... and they were

I completely agree with the chairs view on things and hard to argue against.

The social club is exactly that,  a social hub were members/friends can meet after games to have a pint or two and head home, there's no real money making going on anymore, not since the ceasefire!

Some exceptions of course, that the club does generate much needed funds.

Any sane thinking person would agree with the chair.
so you and county chair are more medically qualified than the chief medical officerS ? GAA Social clubs provide community hubs for their membership and were breaking no laws
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:07:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 10, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
What clubs have social clubs open?

What's the aim of the GAA? To promote happy hour? If they can't do what they are told then fine the said clubs.

Obviously things were not out like that (said email) at the start, and clubs that could open due to having kitchen facilities waiting staff and outside areas, probably felt they they were working within the law... and they were

I completely agree with the chairs view on things and hard to argue against.

The social club is exactly that,  a social hub were members/friends can meet after games to have a pint or two and head home, there's no real money making going on anymore, not since the ceasefire!

Some exceptions of course, that the club does generate much needed funds.

Any sane thinking person would agree with the chair.
so you and county chair are more medically qualified than the chief medical officerS ? GAA Social clubs provide community hubs for their membership and were breaking no laws

Where did I say I was more qualified than anybody?

Why bring extra risk on to people by opening social clubs etc? If Clubs are that hard up for money then maybe they should think about pulling the pin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:15:08 PM
What clubs have got Social Clubs that are actually open on a daily basis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2020, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:15:08 PM
What clubs have got Social Clubs that are actually open on a daily basis?
St Galls, O'Dees, Davitts, Gort na Mona, St Paul's.

Lámh Dhearg, St. John's, Sarsfields I think are only open a few days a week but I'm not 100% on that.

Probably forgot some too.

So that's why Belfast GAA man is so angry, he will have to pay full price for a pint now.. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2020, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2020, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:15:08 PM
What clubs have got Social Clubs that are actually open on a daily basis?
St Galls, O'Dees, Davitts, Gort na Mona, St Paul's.

Lámh Dhearg, St. John's, Sarsfields I think are only open a few days a week but I'm not 100% on that.

Probably forgot some too.

So that's why Belfast GAA man is so angry, he will have to pay full price for a pint now.. 🤷‍♂️
Not really. There are other social clubs he could go to.

But surely it'll be a GAA club he'll want to go to..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 11:49:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2020, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:15:08 PM
What clubs have got Social Clubs that are actually open on a daily basis?
St Galls, O'Dees, Davitts, Gort na Mona, St Paul's.

Lámh Dhearg, St. John's, Sarsfields I think are only open a few days a week but I'm not 100% on that.

Probably forgot some too.

St Endas also has a bar... but that's a SW club  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 11, 2020, 12:15:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2020, 11:49:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2020, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 10:15:08 PM
What clubs have got Social Clubs that are actually open on a daily basis?
St Galls, O'Dees, Davitts, Gort na Mona, St Paul's.

Lámh Dhearg, St. John's, Sarsfields I think are only open a few days a week but I'm not 100% on that.

Probably forgot some too.

St Endas also has a bar... but that's a SW club  ;D

Damn sures they are.. fine club they also  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
we dont use our social club anymore, its pointless as people dont want to walk out of their way into the grounds to go to it so we have got rid of all of the drink now and its probably going to be an occasional licence for the place now.

Theres no many N Antrim clubs that do have theirs open at all anymore. To be honest they dont do much business at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 11, 2020, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 11, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
we dont use our social club anymore, its pointless as people dont want to walk out of their way into the grounds to go to it so we have got rid of all of the drink now and its probably going to be an occasional licence for the place now.

Theres no many N Antrim clubs that do have theirs open at all anymore. To be honest they dont do much business at all

Ours is only open on a Saturday night and Sundays from 3 to (ahem) 9 depending on whether the next monday is a bank holiday.

There's not the same profit to be made from them and they're a huge pain in the arse to run.

I think we're waiting on the go-ahead for the wet pubs to be allowed to open


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 11, 2020, 03:07:59 PM
GNM player tested positive.

Speedy recovery to the player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on August 11, 2020, 04:19:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 11, 2020, 03:07:59 PM
GNM player tested positive.

Speedy recovery to the player.

Ladies football mach called off last night too. Nobody tested positive but one of the players was in an establishment which had 4 members of staff tested positive, so precautionary only that the player gets tested too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 12, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
St Johns need to win tonight I'd say .. any stream of it happening?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2020, 07:53:45 PM
Ahoghill giving portglenone their fill of it again. Aghaghallon leading by a bit over st bridgids. Not sure what is happening with St. John's. Some interesting games on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2020, 09:35:51 PM
Any results from the senior? Aghagallon beat st Brigids with a bit to spare but haven't seen any other.

Ballymena look strong in intermediate. Dunloy just pipped Glenravel in other group.

Portglenone won by five or so as well in a six goal game.

[edit] in fact 7 goal game and portglenone by none.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 12, 2020, 10:45:03 PM
Casements hanging in there still after tonights result. Away to Creggan next week a tougher assignment. Still a battle on to make the quarter finals where the real action starts. Ahoghill gave us plenty to think about but they are no bad team to be fair.  They were missing a few tonight that would not have done their cause any harm, but thats championship, every team will have a few players missing for one reason or another - thats where the strength of your panel counts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2020, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 12, 2020, 10:45:03 PM
Casements hanging in there still after tonights result. Away to Creggan next week a tougher assignment. Still a battle on to make the quarter finals where the real action starts. Ahoghill gave us plenty to think about but they are no bad team to be fair.  They were missing a few tonight that would not have done their cause any harm, but thats championship, every team will have a few players missing for one reason or another - thats where the strength of your panel counts.

If you're only playing one sport you've better chance to recharge the batteries...

Johnnies had three or four lads rested tonight and 4 lads that hurled on Sunday playing tonight. Creggan will be in same boat Galls also, Rossa probably the most as do Dunloy! It's a tighter season/championship this year for dual clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 13, 2020, 09:28:30 AM
Yeah it was the same for ourselves last night. A few lads left off the panel after sundays hurling match against Ballycastle plus with a big game v Rossa on Sunday in the hurling.

Really tight game last night between ourselves and Glenravel. Eamon Fyfe is a fantastic footballer, a real classy player for Glenravel. He caused us all sorts of problems and his fielding for the mark was brilliant.

We got a goal when it was 0-08 to 1-06 and it was the games turning point as we never fell behind again.

Leaves the last games very interesting. Glenravel need to beat Moneyglass, we need to beat Glenavy and points difference will be in play. All we need to ensure is that we win regardless of the other results.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2020, 11:32:43 AM
really enjoying he club games from Down and dublin over the weekend on the TV - given there are few surprises in county footBall its very enjoyable seeing the ordinary lads and the countY players together.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
Great to see on hard ground too. Normally the club games are wars of attrition on boggy pitches by the time you get to see them live on tv.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2020, 10:03:05 AM
Rossa St Johns a knockout game tongiht? or does points difference count or head to head....anyone know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 19, 2020, 10:41:47 AM
Probably the most exciting match tonight. A win for either put them through. Point difference only comes into it if its a draw tonight and Rossa lose to LD next week. Both St Johns and Rossa would then finish on 2 points each and be equal on head to head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2020, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 19, 2020, 10:41:47 AM
Probably the most exciting match tonight. A win for either put them through. Point difference only comes into it if its a draw tonight and Rossa lose to LD next week. Both St Johns and Rossa would then finish on 2 points each and be equal on head to head.
good to know tks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 19, 2020, 09:10:53 PM
A two point win with 13 men gets us through to the quarters where it starts for real.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2020, 09:19:50 PM
Big comeback from Rossa.  Dunloy and moneyglass through in division 2 (the others had already made it).  Antrim and ardoyne through in that group and ballycastle pearses. Mitchell's conceded 16-23 to Antrim so it helped their score difference getting through.

Bs we never doubted you lol. Ahoghill must be a good bit better than people gave them credit for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 19, 2020, 09:42:24 PM
Ahoghill with their best 15 on the field have taken plenty of skelps over the years when least expected. A small parish playing both codes. You have to give them credit.

We have got a bit of our mojo back now, this result will bring us on another bit. Having said that there wont be much between most of the 8 teams that qualify. All four matches could be close enough to 50/50 calls. Great to see, better than the days of two stand out teams and the rest nowhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 19, 2020, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 19, 2020, 09:42:24 PM
Ahoghill with their best 15 on the field have taken plenty of skelps over the years when least expected. A small parish playing both codes. You have to give them credit.

We have got a bit of our mojo back now, this result will bring us on another bit. Having said that there wont be much between most of the 8 teams that qualify. All four matches could be close enough to 50/50 calls. Great to see, better than the days of two stand out teams and the rest nowhere.

Whats the story with Ahoghill and Portglenone at underage now Bannside?

Are any of the teams merged or have they both their own U6 up teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 19, 2020, 10:55:21 PM
The vast majority of Portglenone members were happy with the amalgamation until a couple of years ago a big push came to wear our own colours and build our own brand. That idea gathered momentum and the dam burst at an agm where  the annual standing motion to maintain the union was overwhelmingly defeated. It coincided with our new facilities and I suppose with that a desire to develop our own juveniles with a renewed vigour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NGBlue on August 20, 2020, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2020, 09:19:50 PM
Big comeback from Rossa.  Dunloy and moneyglass through in division 2 (the others had already made it).  Antrim and ardoyne through in that group and ballycastle pearses. Mitchell's conceded 16-23 to Antrim so it helped their score difference getting through.

Bs we never doubted you lol. Ahoghill must be a good bit better than people gave them credit for.

Word has it that antrim gave Mitchell's 2 players and played the game!! That's a rule break and would mean ods would go through?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
If this is true how did match go ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 20, 2020, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
If this is true how did match go ahead

How would it not? Both teams agree to it and stick 2 registered players on the team sheet, not the referees job to check players are who the team sheet says they are, 15 players on the sheet and 15 on the pitch nothing referee can do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NGBlue on August 20, 2020, 02:06:20 PM
I'm sure there will be some info on it soon enough. Silly on a antrims part thinking they could get away with it. I'd say ods and doyne would be both onto it as it hinders the draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 20, 2020, 02:57:54 PM
Whats the story with Mitchells ? Will they survive this season at all?

I was looking at their results and they've been on the end of some serious hammerings in the Antrim JFC.

Their hurling team closed down a good few years ago and a few of their hurlers were trying to get a game anywhere they could - think a few played for McDermotts after the Teresa's split, there was a Belfast Shamrocks amalgamation which didnt last too long.

Used to play on that pitch up near Poleglass on Pembrooke Loop Road if memory serves me correctly.

It seems they have slipped through the net with regards to catchment area, underage, primary school links etc and appear to be running on fumes. T

hey were a senior hurling club in the sixties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2020, 03:34:11 PM
They have three senior hurling titles to their name and two football. (Granted four of the five are over a century ago).

Quite sad to see really but difficult to get put out by score difference in that group when one team wins by 70+ and another wins by less than that. Once you get up to 20s, 30s and 40s it's inconsequential really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 20, 2020, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
If this is true how did match go ahead

How would it not? Both teams agree to it and stick 2 registered players on the team sheet, not the referees job to check players are who the team sheet says they are, 15 players on the sheet and 15 on the pitch nothing referee can do.
Stupid to play game then. If true Comghalls are out. ODs  will likely press for this to happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 20, 2020, 05:40:03 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 20, 2020, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
If this is true how did match go ahead

How would it not? Both teams agree to it and stick 2 registered players on the team sheet, not the referees job to check players are who the team sheet says they are, 15 players on the sheet and 15 on the pitch nothing referee can do.
Stupid to play game then. If true Comghalls are out. ODs  will likely press for this to happen

If this is found to be correct

It is possible that the scores from the Mitchells would be declared null and void , then

The following would apply - ?
Exceptions to (c):
Except where provided for otherwise in County Bye-Law or Competition Regulation,

(d) In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been
affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or
walk over, the tie shall be decided by the following means:
(i) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on
points), have played each other. (subtracting the total Scores Against from total
Scores For)
(ii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved, have played each
other, and have finished equal in (i)
(iii) A Play-Off (e) A Disqualification shall only affect further participation in the
current Championship involved and not the following year's Championship or
Qualification for it. In the context of a Disqualification, in any Promotion or
Relegation Process, a Team shall retain the points it has won in a Stage of the
Championship run on a League Basis.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 20, 2020, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 19, 2020, 10:55:21 PM
The vast majority of Portglenone members were happy with the amalgamation until a couple of years ago a big push came to wear our own colours and build our own brand. That idea gathered momentum and the dam burst at an agm where  the annual standing motion to maintain the union was overwhelmingly defeated. It coincided with our new facilities and I suppose with that a desire to develop our own juveniles with a renewed vigour.
and do the ahoghill boys sanction to you now or have u Dropped them completely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 20, 2020, 09:34:28 PM
I really couldnt tell you where they go tbh. Dont think many are coming to us lets put it that way. Moneyglass would get a few from what I hear maybe Tir Na Nog.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 20, 2020, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 20, 2020, 05:40:03 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 20, 2020, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
If this is true how did match go ahead

How would it not? Both teams agree to it and stick 2 registered players on the team sheet, not the referees job to check players are who the team sheet says they are, 15 players on the sheet and 15 on the pitch nothing referee can do.
Stupid to play game then. If true Comghalls are out. ODs  will likely press for this to happen

If this is found to be correct

It is possible that the scores from the Mitchells would be declared null and void , then

The following would apply - ?
Exceptions to (c):
Except where provided for otherwise in County Bye-Law or Competition Regulation,

(d) In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been
affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or
walk over, the tie shall be decided by the following means:
(i) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on
points), have played each other. (subtracting the total Scores Against from total
Scores For)
(ii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved, have played each
other, and have finished equal in (i)
(iii) A Play-Off (e) A Disqualification shall only affect further participation in the
current Championship involved and not the following year's Championship or
Qualification for it. In the context of a Disqualification, in any Promotion or
Relegation Process, a Team shall retain the points it has won in a Stage of the
Championship run on a League Basis.

Rule applied
JFC SEMIS
Pearses v St.Comgalls
Ballycastle v Ardoyne
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NGBlue on August 20, 2020, 10:06:52 PM
Have to feel for ods. A small club trying it's best and you have comgalls trying to pull a sly one, getting caught and no repercussions. Opens it up for others the try and bend the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2020, 10:08:26 PM
Have they really intended to pull a fast one here though? What would have happened if Mitchell's hadn't fielded? How would they have worked out score difference?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 20, 2020, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2020, 10:08:26 PM
Have they really intended to pull a fast one here though? What would have happened if Mitchell's hadn't fielded? How would they have worked out score difference?

It would have resulted in the rule being applied  and the same Semi finals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 20, 2020, 11:27:41 PM
If that is true, Mitchells have therefore conceeded the game and score difference will be null and void and it will go to head to head?

The Pearses and Ballycastle group is fairly weak. Best two teams (Ardoyne and Antrim) in the other group and they should both made it through to the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 20, 2020, 11:30:27 PM
All 4 intermediate finalists will fancy their chances. It'll all be who plays well on the day, not much between the 4. My money would be on Moneyglass v Dunloy final and maybe Moneyglass shading it with no hurling to worry about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2020, 11:44:49 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 20, 2020, 11:30:27 PM
All 4 intermediate finalists will fancy their chances. It'll all be who plays well on the day, not much between the 4. My money would be on Moneyglass v Dunloy final and maybe Moneyglass shading it with no hurling to worry about.

Dunloy might not have hurling to worry about  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2020, 07:09:06 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 20, 2020, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2020, 10:08:26 PM
Have they really intended to pull a fast one here though? What would have happened if Mitchell's hadn't fielded? How would they have worked out score difference?

It would have resulted in the rule being applied  and the same Semi finals

So much ado about nothing then...

I would say moneyglass and ballymena best in intermediate. Maybe ballymena to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2020, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2020, 11:44:49 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 20, 2020, 11:30:27 PM
All 4 intermediate finalists will fancy their chances. It'll all be who plays well on the day, not much between the 4. My money would be on Moneyglass v Dunloy final and maybe Moneyglass shading it with no hurling to worry about.

Dunloy might not have hurling to worry about  ;)

;D ;D ;D ;D

If results go against us this weekend then we can concentrate on our second game them lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 21, 2020, 02:39:52 PM
Does anyone know what dates the semi/quarter finals are set for across the three championships?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2020, 12:09:58 PM
Next 2 weekends I hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 23, 2020, 09:10:24 PM
SFC  30th Aug
Creggan   v (1) st galls or st endas
Aghagallon v LD @ Glenavy
1  v  PG1 or Ahoghill

1st Sept
Cargin   v Rossa or St.Johns @ Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2020, 08:32:30 PM
St galls vs portglenone pick of the quarter finals. Should get interesting now.

St. John's out and Rossa through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
I watched a bit of stgalls stendas. Stgalls looked very good. Stendas got a goal from the water break which looked a bit unusual to say the least... Their game with Portglenone should be very interesting.

It'll be interesting seeing what Rossa have in them against Cargin.

Creggan and Ld to win the other two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NGBlue on August 26, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Cargin and rossa could see an upset! If I'm right rossa pushed them 2 years ago?

Thoughts on the goal tonight? Tough luck for taking too long or hard done by? I can see both sides 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 26, 2020, 11:25:48 PM
All 4 senior quarters will be tight.

I expect Cargin and Lamh Dhearg to have a bit too much quality for Rossa and Aghagallon.

The other two I can't call.

As for the goal tonight...can't understand how it stood.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on August 27, 2020, 12:03:38 AM
Nothing wrong with the goal. The ref gave plenty of time. Only supposed to be 1 minute break and he gave St Galls plenty of warning. No issue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on August 27, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 23, 2020, 09:10:24 PM
SFC  30th Aug
Creggan   v (1) st galls or st endas
Aghagallon v LD @ Glenavy
1  v  PG1 or Ahoghill

1st Sept
Cargin   v Rossa or St.Johns @ Dunsilly

So Rossa have hurling QF on Saturday and football QF on Tuesday? Doesn't seem fair tbh. Surely they can push 1 game back?? How many dual players will be involved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2020, 09:42:00 AM
I was thinking that. There is a lot of overlap. You're not talking one or two - more likely to be half a team plus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 27, 2020, 09:42:31 AM
Saw a bit of the first half Vs St. Enda's and St. Gall's looked a mile ahead of where there were the first day. Kell, Aidso, Anto Healy and Terry all back in the team. Kell is 37 odd, the other three are 35/36. Niblock going 34. CJ and Burkey both 32. Can't last for ever!

Are Brady and Andy still playing? Brady would be the same age as Kell, Andy probably 35 at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2020, 09:48:32 AM
Brady came on as a sub. Don't know about McClean.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NGBlue on August 27, 2020, 10:07:14 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 27, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 23, 2020, 09:10:24 PM

Same with St Galls! Both teams will have played championship Sunday, last night, will play Sat and Tues and if any progress it would look like Saturday again! Madness, as is the times we're living in.
SFC  30th Aug
Creggan   v (1) st galls or st endas
Aghagallon v LD @ Glenavy
1  v  PG1 or Ahoghill

1st Sept
Cargin   v Rossa or St.Johns @ Dunsilly

So Rossa have hurling QF on Saturday and football QF on Tuesday? Doesn't seem fair tbh. Surely they can push 1 game back?? How many dual players will be involved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that

I've coached against my own club. It's strange but I lived to tell the tale.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2020, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: Peter john on August 27, 2020, 02:51:06 PM
Tyrdub,I think semis in both codes are next weekend, with LD hurling sat in junior, footbal on Sunday, winners off St Paul's or Ballymena  in junior hurling out next weekend when their football teams play in semi final off inter,dunloy likewise,apparently dates are set,as usual £££ is all that matters

Not a lot of cross over with Lamhs, certainly Dunloy and Rossa  would have a lot more, but i doubt money has anything to do with it seeing as there could be triple or more at these games and its not happening due to current situation..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2020, 03:22:51 PM
We have compressed the season (as in more than it needs to be but to be fair with the way things were at the start it wasn't a bad thing to give contingency) so I think allowances should be made here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that

I've coached against my own club. It's strange but I lived to tell the tale.
R u still welcome in your 'own' club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas to
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that

I've coached against my own club. It's strange but I lived to tell the tale.
R u still welcome in your 'own' club?

I'm back coaching with the underage teams. I was asked by a mate to help him out at a club and it happened that they were in the same league as my "home" club. There was no issue either of the 2 games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 05:30:05 PM
And my payment was a voucher for full club gear and a pair of dinner dance tickets.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 27, 2020, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas to
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that

I've coached against my own club. It's strange but I lived to tell the tale.
R u still welcome in your 'own' club?

I'm back coaching with the underage teams. I was asked by a mate to help him out at a club and it happened that they were in the same league as my "home" club. There was no issue either of the 2 games.
Is this the same with Aghagallon v LD
Something most of us would not contemplate is managing  a team against your own club in your own county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
I did it too a few years back, managing new club versus old club...and it definitely felt strange alright. But when you take a job on you have a responsibility to do it 100%. Kevin Murray and the Mc Nulty brothers will have only one loyalty next week. It just adds to the intrique of the championship.

On another note, big shout out once more to our esteemed PRO Sean who is making sure we all get to see as many games as possible. He has some energy and passion for Antrim GAA thats for sure!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 27, 2020, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
I did it too a few years back, managing new club versus old club...and it definitely felt strange alright. But when you take a job on you have a responsibility to do it 100%. Kevin Murray and the Mc Nulty brothers will have only one loyalty next week. It just adds to the intrique of the championship.

On another note, big shout out once more to our esteemed PRO Sean who is making sure we all get to see as many games as possible. He has some energy and passion for Antrim GAA thats for sure!
Sean Pro is fantastic, we can agree on that. He's also doing it for FREE...... That's passion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 27, 2020, 08:12:16 PM
Any word on who the men in the middle are for Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2020, 08:13:35 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on August 27, 2020, 08:12:16 PM
Any word on who the men in the middle are for Sunday?

On county website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 27, 2020, 08:25:02 PM
Cheers, couple of names I would not have expected in there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 27, 2020, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas to
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that

I've coached against my own club. It's strange but I lived to tell the tale.
R u still welcome in your 'own' club?

I'm back coaching with the underage teams. I was asked by a mate to help him out at a club and it happened that they were in the same league as my "home" club. There was no issue either of the 2 games.
Is this the same with Aghagallon v LD
Something most of us would not contemplate is managing  a team against your own club in your own county.
Hold on is that Murray managing against his 2 brothers on the LD team? surely stnad down for the game and Aghagallon would think more of him - what a situation for his Family
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 27, 2020, 08:46:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 27, 2020, 08:32:13 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on August 27, 2020, 08:25:02 PM
Cheers, couple of names I would not have expected in there

Hope St. John's & St. Gall's people have no plans on Saturday night.

Why so?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2020, 09:50:27 PM
done the minor hurling game tonight between ourselves. good job he blew it up on time or the score would of been worse :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 27, 2020, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 27, 2020, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 27, 2020, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Creggan v St endas to
Rossa v cargin
LD v aghagallon
Pg1 v St Galls

I think
Creggan v St Endas is the mcnulty brothers, with decades of servce to St Endas, taking a team against them and palyers they would have coached - If I Live to I'm 100 I'll never understand how men can do that

I've coached against my own club. It's strange but I lived to tell the tale.
R u still welcome in your 'own' club?

I'm back coaching with the underage teams. I was asked by a mate to help him out at a club and it happened that they were in the same league as my "home" club. There was no issue either of the 2 games.
Is this the same with Aghagallon v LD
Something most of us would not contemplate is managing  a team against your own club in your own county.
Hold on is that Murray managing against his 2 brothers on the LD team? surely stnad down for the game and Aghagallon would think more of him - what a situation for his Family
1 Murray in Aghagallon camp and 4 in LD team, panel and sidelines. Must be great craic at the Christmas Day dinner table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 27, 2020, 10:39:13 PM
Especially if one of them blows a 4 point lead in the final minute and it goes to extra time.

Hope St. John's & St. Gall's people have no plans on Saturday night.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 30, 2020, 03:56:01 PM
Great game in Corrigan Park there. Aghagallon ran LD all the way and LD got a late goal to get them over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2020, 04:57:52 PM
Sean laverty robbed aghagallon. Very poor performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2020, 05:19:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2020, 04:57:52 PM
Sean laverty robbed aghagallon. Very poor performance

Explain that one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 30, 2020, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2020, 05:19:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2020, 04:57:52 PM
Sean laverty robbed aghagallon. Very poor performance

Explain that one?

Come on MR2 you can't expect people to explain their nonsense unfounded comments, Sean had a good game as good or bad depending on how you see it to both teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 30, 2020, 07:45:53 PM
Aghagallon played very well and just lacked a few old heads when needed to get them over the linE. I'm sure they will be very close in months and years ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2020, 10:42:46 PM
Sean Laverty robbed this one, MR2 robbed that one, Eamon McAuley done that aswell.

Get a grip ffs lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2020, 01:07:31 AM
I was on there, thoroughly that game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on August 31, 2020, 11:54:06 AM
Was at that game, and have to say Sean had a fine performance in the middle. Though have to point out his man on the side line missed Murray striking McCann on the Aghagallon kickout 2nd half. Was standing opposite it and although wasnt a strike Tyson would of been proud of, was definetly a moment of madness from Murray.

On another note, can anyone on here confirm that Cargin have lost their goalie to suspension? Was told by another official that he was reported in a referees report for verbally abusing the ref during one of their championship games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 31, 2020, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 30, 2020, 03:56:01 PM
Great game in Corrigan Park there. Aghagallon ran LD all the way and LD got a late goal to get them over the line.
From Aghagallon lens they'll be disappointed. More scores on the doors but could not get this one over the line nor make most of black card. LD had better people management, and had role played this situation before (similar to PG1 scenario last year). Great game to watch on live stream
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 31, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Definitely thought a few decisions went against us but in reality we have no one to blame but ourselves. We had a few goal chances that we didn't take or someone slipped and we had a few sloppy handling errors in front of goals. More than enough chances to win the game. Very encouraging for us though. That LD team bullied us 2 years ago up in glenavy and we couldn't match them physically. We did yesterday and we had some good options to come off the bench as well. Plenty of football left in those young lads. Hopefully they all stick around and we can get the next batch of underage players through and try and get into that top 4/5 teams in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2020, 02:07:58 PM
You definitely did let that one slip yesterday JS, created more scores than LD over the hour and a bit more composure in the scoring zone and Aghagallon would be looking forward to meeting the winners of Cargin and Rossa in a county semi final.

LD will know that they didnt play well but still managed to pull out a result, and onwards they march, but St Marys can hold their heads up and have lots to look forward to in the coming years. Your age profile is probably the youngest in the league!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2020, 02:13:59 PM
Any predictions on the next two quarters?

Rossa are proving to be nobodys pushover in both codes and Portglenone have never beaten St Galls in a championship match but feel that on their day there is the talent now to do so. Bookies making St Galls hot favourites at 1/3.....I dont see it that way, even money game in my book!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2020, 02:17:05 PM
Cargin by 2 st galls by 4

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 31, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Cargin by 6
St galls by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 31, 2020, 04:12:33 PM
Are either of tomorrow's quarter finals being streamed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 31, 2020, 05:18:59 PM
Aghagallon joining Portglenone and Creggan as clubs pushing for a title in the years ahead. LD, Cargin on top for now, and St John's and Rossa always see themselves in that bracket.  Antrim football and future county managers should benefit a lot.  What could possibly go wrong!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2020, 07:32:35 PM
Casements v St Galls being streamed live on Antrim Facebook.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 01, 2020, 02:12:07 PM
Is the semi finals down for this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2020, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 01, 2020, 02:12:07 PM
Is the semi finals down for this weekend?

Very good coverage, except I keep waiting to see a replay of scores etc!! All square at half time, Portglenone have lost two key players to injury but plenty of Delargys available to keep the Casements show on the road.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 07:38:32 PM
Poor enough in the first half but has improved since the break. St. Gall's look quite leggy and Portglenone look at their best when running at them but are going away from it quite a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 07:51:10 PM
I'm neutral although to be honest would maybe slightly favour portglenone but that ref is shafting st galls. He is really bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2020, 08:02:47 PM
I'm totally neutral, and think the referee is doing well. Playing a totally fair game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 07:51:10 PM
I'm neutral although to be honest would maybe slightly favour portglenone but that ref is shafting st galls. He is really bad.

I thought there were some awful decisions but Kieran on commentary was calling them all as fouls. The one where they both went to lift the ball at the same time was crazy.

They must have thought it was done when Aidso's shot was saved, so to dig it out from that position was huge. Big stones on Brendan Bradley to put that equaliser over after missing the free Dunno how much St. Gall's have left in the legs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2020, 08:12:29 PM
Kieran is very good on commentary / analysis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2020, 08:13:33 PM
No sign of CJ? Maybe injured on Sunday in the hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 08:18:32 PM
That pollock one on half time too gallsman.

Agree on commentary Brendan. Wondering the same myself about cj. I think they are missing him.

Portglenone too much in the legs now I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:23:42 PM
They said at the start that CJ picked up a knock at the end of the Johnnies game on Sunday.

Pollock one there was definitely a free. He had a bad miss earlier in extra time too.

Gerard McAleese, there's a blast from the past. Trouble all night for St. Galls has been winning either primary or breaking ball, which is disappointing given how early McKeever went off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:24:51 PM
As I say that Aidso plucks a crucial one out of the sky. Possibly first one all night.

Edit: Ha, and another. And a third
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2020, 08:29:29 PM
Last few scorers for Naomh Gall: Gallagher, Niblock, Bradley. The old stagers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Wouldn't call Bradley an old stager to be honest.

If Portglenone end up losing this they really need to ask questions of themselves. Should have been out of sight and St. Gall's were out on their feet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 08:32:38 PM
Bad free to miss at the end. Entertaining game. Niblock some boy to win ball too.

First time I will have watched penalties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:34:12 PM
Yup, should have been the end of it. Not sure they needed to give quite so many frees away after it either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 08:34:33 PM
Cargin won by 22!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 08:35:27 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:34:12 PM
Yup, should have been the end of it. Not sure they needed to give quite so many frees away after it either.

Though on the flip side portglenone missed a few ones to almost put the game away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2020, 08:35:58 PM
Shouldn't this have been played on a pitch with floodlights?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 08:42:50 PM
Tough way to lose. Great service it has to be said. All free.

Creggan portglenone again now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 01, 2020, 08:44:13 PM
Great winning penalty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2020, 08:49:27 PM
That was a rollercoaster... we'd chances to win and Portglenone had chances to win it...

penalties unfortunately are in and that is known well before, so teams will have prepared.!

Our old guard are a fantastic bunch, and a great bunch of lads, we need to be rebuilding for the future now as I'm sure some lads will definitely hang up the boots!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 08:53:02 PM
Congratulations to Portglenone. Just about deserved to win having tried their best to throw it away a couple of times.

Entertaining game in the end, albeit quite low quality. Aidso coming up big at the end and dragging St. Gall's behind him showed just how much quality they have to replace. Can't speak for any of the lads as I'm away so long and have no idea what they'd be thinking but it'll surely be the last hurrah for three or four of them. Even if they'd won that, suspect they'd be in for a spanking in the next game. Don't think there's a championship left in the team so probably best to turn it over, even if that means some time in the doldrums.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 01, 2020, 08:55:26 PM
Bad way to lose....poor that it was in the dark too...how does  a County facility have no floodlights?

Bad missed free to kill it cost Galls...unlucky

Thought ref v v v sore on Galls all game

Galls old stagers still their best ans they played fantastic, eye pleasing stuff. If Aidso rolled that one in at end of normal time  it was game over. Niblock and Terry were immense

Hagan for PG1 a dnagerous leftie

Great nights entertainment...hard for anyone to lose that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 01, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
Bizarre watching some of the best players we've ever produced possibly end their careers in a penalty shoot out in the dark.

Only in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2020, 09:07:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 01, 2020, 09:05:46 PM
They have penalties in other counties too.

Rossa put the reserves out tonight to concentrate on the Dunloy game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 01, 2020, 09:11:41 PM
Have no problem with the penalties, everyone knew about it in advance, and especially given the fuss after McCavana waved off the first semifinal replay last year. Cracking penalties they were beaten by too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 09:25:39 PM
Agreed. Great penalties.

Great service it has to be said. Great to see these games and free at that.

I think portglenone just about deserved it. Good game which hopefully won't be remembered for the ref.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 01, 2020, 09:27:30 PM
So it was Sean Laverty on Sunday and Eamon McAuley tonight... who's turn is it next week???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2020, 09:52:18 PM
Some free kick by portglenone too for the leveller. Them and Creggan will be sick of the sight of each other.

You only had to read the comments to realise the ref was creating plenty of talking points... Any which way great game and great to be able to see it.

Cargin would have to be clear favourites father that win. I think everyone thought they'd win but be rattled.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 01, 2020, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 01, 2020, 09:27:30 PM
So it was Sean Laverty on Sunday and Eamon McAuley tonight... who's turn is it next week???

You don't need to wait till next week, there are still plenty of games left this week...

Ps real good penalties, quality under pressure
Pss we used to play till much darker in our street
Psss there are still floodlights in the county ground
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2020, 08:35:47 AM
fantastic coverage of the game yet again. cruel way to lose again but then again there are no replays allowed atm.

Really does make you cringe when you think that our own centre of excellence hasn't got flood lights at this stage. Has to be a priority for going on next year to get them in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2020, 08:40:19 AM
Relief to have got though last nights epic. Could have gone either way, both teams will watch the match and talk about ifs and buts. Portglenone are still a coming team and to get their first ever championship win against St Galls is another milestone.

St Galls lost nothing in defeat, truly hope we havent seen the last of some of their older statesmen who can all still play ball as witnessed last night. Niblock still easily the best ball winner in the county, please Lenny and Kevin go grab a coffee sometime.

Three SW teams in the semis is another first ever stat -  and Aghagallon so close to making it a full hand!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2020, 08:52:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 02, 2020, 08:40:19 AM
Relief to have got though last nights epic. Could have gone either way, both teams will watch the match and talk about ifs and buts. Portglenone are still a coming team and to get their first ever championship win against St Galls is another milestone.

St Galls lost nothing in defeat, truly hope we havent seen the last of some of their older statesmen who can all still play ball as witnessed last night. Niblock still easily the best ball winner in the county, please Lenny and Kevin go grab a coffee sometime.

Three SW teams in the semis is another first ever staristic, and Aghagallon so close to making it a full hand!

Yeah maybe we will get another 5-3 classic  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2020, 09:04:04 AM
aw good god no! lol

I left at half time of that final, id see enough of it to do me, esp after watching our minor footballers beforehand actually play football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 02, 2020, 09:12:38 AM
Assume CJ McGourty injured last night?  Massive loss.  St Galls win with him on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 02, 2020, 09:33:06 AM
Good to hear that Mike Literos getting a shout from California by Jerome LOL. Anyone else hear that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2020, 09:34:03 AM
Saw the facebook comment but hadn't it on at that point. Little to be doing lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2020, 09:49:44 AM
Re CJ - was he removed from the St Galls bench by the referee for constant verbals? Maybe carded? Not sure, heard that "rumour" maybe someone better placed can confirm!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2020, 09:53:12 AM
He does score a lot of frees dosent he, and I didnt see Bradso miss many!! Arguably the loss of Niall Mc Keever after 10 mins and Dermot Mc Aleese after 20 mins was a far bigger loss to Portglenone.

If and Buts Christmas Lights?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2020, 09:56:43 AM
He missed one that would have had a pretty major bearing though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2020, 10:03:55 AM
Id put Niall Mc Keever down for at least 4 clean catches that ended up in St Galls possession, and Dermot Mc Aleese for half a dozen penetrating runs plus about 3 points from play. Ifs and Buts.

Question is...why was Conor John NOT on the field?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2020, 10:11:13 AM
Exactly. Ifs and buts. They don't change anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 02, 2020, 11:58:21 AM
They dont but perhaps an * against the PG1 win considering its against a CJ McGourtyless St Galls, West Belfast?

If he is on the field, I dont see SGWB lose that game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 02, 2020, 12:28:39 PM
JFC Semi on hold, looks like O'Dees won their appeal, wonder where it goes from here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2020, 12:39:24 PM
No floodlights at a Belfast grass venue is a disgrace - is Corrigan getting them? are LD's bRoken?

Jerome Quinn fair play to you 2,100 plus watching the drama last night - take a bow Jerome and the 2 teams who were both worthy of a victorY
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 02, 2020, 12:28:39 PM
JFC Semi on hold, looks like O'Dees won their appeal, wonder where it goes from here

Where have you heard this from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on September 02, 2020, 12:54:01 PM
Was lucky to get a ticket to dunsilly last night courtesy of a friend of mine, and i have to say that was one of the best games id been to as long time. Casements definetly bring excitement to the championship with how they play and St.Galls were at the best iv seen them in years. Aidan Gallagher outstanding along with Niblock. Though you would of put your house on Bradley to slot that over and see them through. Honestly dont see what the unmerited criticism is, thought mcauley was 'fair' to both. you can always point to decisions not being called right but id be looking more at the consistency of ref decisions so players can respond and they know whats a tackle and whats a foul and to be honest McAuley very consistent last night.

Two big semi finals. Wouldnt like to call any, any with such a short turn around in games the depth of the panels will be a major factor on who gets there. Who all do we fancy to reach the final off the back of what wev seen so far. Im hope BS off the back of your previous comment regarding st.galls being heavy favourites that you got a nice wee lift from the bookies today having backed the black and gold
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 02, 2020, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 02, 2020, 12:28:39 PM
JFC Semi on hold, looks like O'Dees won their appeal, wonder where it goes from here

Where have you heard this from?

Paddy Tierney on Twitter:

The Antrim JFC semi-final between
@patrickpearses
and
@comgallsgaa
has been postponed after the Ulster Council upheld an appeal from
@GacOdonnells
  - case has been sent back to Antrim CCC for "reprocessing"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 02, 2020, 12:57:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2020, 12:39:24 PM
No floodlights at a Belfast grass venue is a disgrace - is Corrigan getting them? are LD's bRoken?

Jerome Quinn fair play to you 2,100 plus watching the drama last night - take a bow Jerome and the 2 teams who were both worthy of a victorY

City clubs spent all the money on outside coaches 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2020, 01:58:59 PM
I resisted the temptation to take advantage of the odds which I thought were wrong. I saw it as 50/50 all the way. Glad I didnt invest....the result was a draw and the bet would have been beaten. Yea Casements dont do it the easy way.  Saturday a new game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2020, 02:10:22 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 02, 2020, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 02, 2020, 12:28:39 PM
JFC Semi on hold, looks like O'Dees won their appeal, wonder where it goes from here

Where have you heard this from?

Paddy Tierney on Twitter:

The Antrim JFC semi-final between
@patrickpearses
and
@comgallsgaa
has been postponed after the Ulster Council upheld an appeal from
@GacOdonnells
  - case has been sent back to Antrim CCC for "reprocessing"

Wonder was it that boy who registered here complaining lol.

IMO the best way to resolve that would be to discount the Mitchels games and take the best score difference or head to head - whichever one it is supposed to be.

BS you don't do things the easy way. Should be another good one against Creggan. Cargin LD could be a clinker or a damp squib. Cargin look to be in cruise control thus far so unless LD step it up then Cargin may win handy enough. I see Shivers scored 7 points last night. I think he's going to be a good one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 02:36:08 PM
I see both Senior games set for Saturday

Creggan v PG1, 1pm Ahoghill

Cargin v LD 4pm, Hightown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 02, 2020, 02:38:53 PM
What is the predictions for the semis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 02, 2020, 02:38:53 PM
What is the predictions for the semis?

Cargin by 5

Creggan by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 03:44:11 PM
Any word on when the IFC semi finals are due to be played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 02, 2020, 03:53:09 PM
Watched the streamed game, enjoyed it, and congratulations to Casements, but I have to confess as the game moved on and went into injury time I could feel myself getting massively frustrated at players and clubs having to endure the shit facilities. Are our CB brain dead, a game that was streamed for all to see us (Co Antrim) taking penalties in the fecking dark, totally embarrassment. Cargin, Portglenone, Ahoghill and The Dub have lights. In a rush to get the championship done by 20th September, although we have up to the 14th October. An extra week to use those pitches that have lights rather than this embarrassment. like seriously wtf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2020, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 03:44:11 PM
Any word on when the IFC semi finals are due to be played?

we have been told that our game v Ballymena is Tuesday the 8th at 7:15pm in Ahoghill

No idea about the other one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2020, 05:18:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2020, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2020, 03:44:11 PM
Any word on when the IFC semi finals are due to be played?

we have been told that our game v Ballymena is Tuesday the 8th at 7:15pm in Ahoghill

No idea about the other one.

Same night and time in Portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2020, 06:56:35 PM
Free in Big Hoof too...and a  tenner to get out lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 02, 2020, 11:01:39 PM
Some of Eamonn McAuley's match report has (allegedly) been leaked, detailing abuse he (allegedly) received from St. Gall's players, substitutes and spectators. Nasty and unnecessary affair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2020, 09:19:33 AM
It was tight alright. We have been on the wrong end of a few tight ones against St Galls without managing to get over the line, including losing 3 county finals to them, so thats what was most important to be honest. To Portglenone its a milestone reached/achieved, and our hunger to do that was as much a testimony to the respect we have had for St Galls as being the outstanding team for a generation. The victory for us probably meant more than the defeat to St Galls from that perspective.

Of course its not the St Galls of ten years ago when they were in their pomp, but the inability to beat them when it mattered most was a statistic that dragged on for a long time.

This Casements team are out to make their own mark and if its not this year hopefully it wont be too far down the line. (If there are half a dozen clubs thinking the same thing it can only be good for Antrim football).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2020, 09:22:31 AM
Brothers on team PJ.
Mc Aleese, Convery, Hagan,  Kelly and Delargy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 03, 2020, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 02, 2020, 11:01:39 PM
Some of Eamonn McAuley's match report has (allegedly) been leaked, detailing abuse he (allegedly) received from St. Gall's players, substitutes and spectators. Nasty and unnecessary affair.

I have seen the actual leak and confirm that if what is written is true, which I have no reason to believe otherwise then the people mentioned get what they deserve
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 03, 2020, 12:33:02 PM
Was this after the game?

I thought the referee had a good enough game. Few debatable calls either way but that is always the case as both sides will always have a different opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 03, 2020, 03:59:55 PM
Tony the great would be their uncle PJ. Young Ryan shaping up particularly well, wouldnt be at least surprised to see him in Saffron in the next year or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 03, 2020, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: referee on September 03, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
Is the green army going to be stopped fellas,going along nicely,DC going for 3 in a row

Hard to see them being stopped, only thing that might catch them out is that they have not had a dogfight yet this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2020, 08:56:50 AM
Quote from: referee on September 03, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
Is the green army going to be stopped fellas,going along nicely,DC going for 3 in a row
3 in a row yeah his house extension must be some size now

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2020, 08:57:48 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 03, 2020, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: referee on September 03, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
Is the green army going to be stopped fellas,going along nicely,DC going for 3 in a row

Hard to see them being stopped, only thing that might catch them out is that they have not had a dogfight yet this year
it took 2 finals and 2 extra times to separate them Last Year so i'd say it will be clsoe again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2020, 08:56:50 AM
Quote from: referee on September 03, 2020, 06:35:24 PM
Is the green army going to be stopped fellas,going along nicely,DC going for 3 in a row
3 in a row yeah his house extension must be some size now

I heard he paid for the new development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on September 04, 2020, 10:30:26 AM
DC still coaches teams in his own club every year too, fair play to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2020, 10:12:21 PM
But not bellaghy seniors ? Too much like hard work. Gold digger
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2020, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2020, 10:12:21 PM
But not bellaghy seniors ? Too much like hard work. Gold digger

Bellaghy pay a man for that..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 05, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
So it's
Bellaghy / Cargin
V
St Endas / Creggan
In the Antrim final . Good luck to the 4 competing clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 05, 2020, 10:05:18 PM
What was Michael McCann sent off for today? From what I saw there seemed to be one punch throw and a bit of pushing and shoving but Michael didn't throw the punch.It seemed harsh 3 reds and a yellow for  a bit of handbags!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2020, 10:06:23 PM
Casements were flat today, no zip or energy and despite being a point up with a quarter left, never at any stage got into third never mind fourth gear. Not entirely sure whether that was down to Creggan being better or us being flat/tired, but we never found a dominant spell in the game at any, stage were second best on a day where the better team won. Creggan looked fresher and more up for the game and I dont think Casements can have any complaints.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 05, 2020, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 05, 2020, 10:06:23 PM
Casements were flat today, no zip or energy and despite being a point up with a quarter left, never at any stage got into third never mind fourth gear. Not entirely sure whether that was down to Creggan being better or us being flat/tired, but we never found a dominant spell in the game at any, stage were second best on a day where the better team won. Creggan looked fresher and more up for the game and I dont think Casements can have any complaints.

It looked like a straight red, in which case, very harsh. But maybe a second yellow. I assume a straight red means Mick misses the final. I hope not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 06, 2020, 01:26:31 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 05, 2020, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 05, 2020, 10:06:23 PM
Casements were flat today, no zip or energy and despite being a point up with a quarter left, never at any stage got into third never mind fourth gear. Not entirely sure whether that was down to Creggan being better or us being flat/tired, but we never found a dominant spell in the game at any, stage were second best on a day where the better team won. Creggan looked fresher and more up for the game and I dont think Casements can have any complaints.

It looked like a straight red, in which case, very harsh. But maybe a second yellow. I assume a straight red means Mick misses the final. I hope not.
He wasn't talking about the Cargin LD game..
But yes, if Antrim aren't corrupt they'll both be suspended as they got straight reds, although wouldn't be surprised if they got "rescinded" and they play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 06, 2020, 02:00:03 AM
Some entertainment over the passed week! It'll be interesting to see how the jfc plays out! Looks like it's Creggan to lose! Hopefully they can score a few more points in this final! Re red cards, couldn't see any from the stream, however when young shivers was on the floor I thought straight away it couldve only been one person, I was right!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 10:03:45 AM
McKeever went off early in the quarter final. Assume he hadn't recovered.

I thought Creggan would blow whoever came through the quarter final away as they'd be exhausted, so all credit to Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2020, 10:15:14 AM
Creggan are much more attacking than they were I think. I would e pact cargin to win by a few but would be nice to see a different winner for a change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on September 06, 2020, 11:03:44 AM
The live match streaming is superb, well done to the initiators and all now involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2020, 09:16:54 AM
be interesting to see what sort of team we put out tomorrow night against All Saints with the hurling final in front of us this Sunday.

Id say theres a good chance we wont be full strength for the semi final now which is a real pity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2020, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: Peter john on September 07, 2020, 11:05:25 AM
DR,did I hear that the IFC semis were down for Saturday past,with the hurling semis on yesterday,only in Antrim,probably the same for St Pauls also,with JHC and IFC again only in Antrim

Yeah originally id heard that the semi final in the football was to be on the Saturday with the hurling the next day (yesterday). Obviously that changed and it was moved to give some realistic time ,even still, its really tight to give a team 2 days rest then play another game and expect them to be fresh for another game on Sunday.

Something will obviously have to give and sadly i dont see us having a full team tomorrow night which is to be expected when we have a senior final on the sunday.

if we were to win tomorrow night is the final going to be the weekend of the 19th?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2020, 11:56:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2020, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: Peter john on September 07, 2020, 11:05:25 AM
DR,did I hear that the IFC semis were down for Saturday past,with the hurling semis on yesterday,only in Antrim,probably the same for St Pauls also,with JHC and IFC again only in Antrim

Yeah originally id heard that the semi final in the football was to be on the Saturday with the hurling the next day (yesterday). Obviously that changed and it was moved to give some realistic time ,even still, its really tight to give a team 2 days rest then play another game and expect them to be fresh for another game on Sunday.

Something will obviously have to give and sadly i dont see us having a full team tomorrow night which is to be expected when we have a senior final on the sunday.

if we were to win tomorrow night is the final going to be the weekend of the 19th?

Where the football finals due this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2020, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: Peter john on September 07, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
I think all hurling finals this Saturday and Sunday ,football finals the following week,

Ah, Footballers get an extra week to prepare ..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 07, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
DR, would you have many starters overlapping for each team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 07, 2020, 01:12:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2020, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: Peter john on September 07, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
I think all hurling finals this Saturday and Sunday ,football finals the following week,

Ah, Footballers get an extra week to prepare ..

Gives you another week to prepare for reffing it MR2 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2020, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 07, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
DR, would you have many starters overlapping for each team?

quite a few of the hurling panel

starters on Sunday past - Seaan Elliott, Keelan Molloy, Aaron Crawford, Conal Cunning, Connor Kinsella, Oran Quinn, Connor McKinley

On the bench - Ryan McGarry, Chrissy McMahon, Deaglan Smyth, Karl O'Kane, Callum Scullion, Anton McGrath, Ryan mcFarline, Ciaran McQuillan, Liam McCann, Kevin McQuillan, Oisin McErlaine

hopefully ive not missed anyone out there but all them lads are still with the football panel tomorrow night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 07, 2020, 04:06:37 PM
On another note, surely the county board could invest in a score board for dunsilly?

This and even some concrete steps at the hill would help nearly finish it.

Apart from the elephant in the room of the floodlights. Is this purely a funding issue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2020, 04:54:59 PM
Huge number of dual players alright DR. The vast majority would have hurlung as their No 1 sport, and are focussing on a county final against their biggest rivals in a few short days time. Ironically....Rossa hurlers have sound claims that but for their own dual exploits they may have had the 10% extra to get over the line yesterday. As I say, no easy answers and fair play to all the dual clubs/players out there trying to juggle both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2020, 09:28:10 AM
aw def BS. you could see that with the lads struggling there towards the end. Beattie was completly fuked at the end and couldnt run anymore and he had to come off.

Of course it worked in our favour this time but you cant not feel sympathy towards another dual club who are trying to be sucessfull on both fronts. Its not easy in normal times but this year its even harder for the clubs with next to no rest time given.

Something has to give and with a senior hurling final this sunday against Loughgiel, well you wont find many folk too upset in Dunloy if we lost tonight and none of the players are injured. Personally id love to see us win and make the final as theres no doubt we could (if we had a free run at it) win the IFC but thats the joys of being a dual club.

Football/hurling clubs dont have the same problems to deal with :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on September 08, 2020, 09:55:32 AM
It is true, Slaughtneil are just a club apart.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2020, 10:22:10 AM
They most def are that but when they have become more successful with the hurling the football has suffered. The same has happened with Dungiven and Lavey over the years.

You have to go back to 1969 for St Johns as the last team to win the football and hurling in the same year. Its very hard to do the double in Antrim compared to Derry where theres only 8 hurling teams take part in the whole thing compared to 37 teams in all the football competitions, so you cant compare one with the other.

I think only St Johns, Rossa and ourselves are the only clubs to do a minor football and hurling double (correct me if im wrong) so again, its very hard to be successful in both codes in a single season,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2020, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2020, 10:22:10 AM
They most def are that but when they have become more successful with the hurling the football has suffered. The same has happened with Dungiven and Lavey over the years.

You have to go back to 1969 for St Johns as the last team to win the football and hurling in the same year. Its very hard to do the double in Antrim compared to Derry where theres only 8 hurling teams take part in the whole thing compared to 37 teams in all the football competitions, so you cant compare one with the other.

I think only St Johns, Rossa and ourselves are the only clubs to do a minor football and hurling double (correct me if im wrong) so again, its very hard to be successful in both codes in a single season,

St Galls also  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
my bad  :o

what year did St Galls do it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2020, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
my bad  :o

what year did St Galls do it?

2001 and beat in both finals the year before!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:02:44 PM
Any word on whether McCann is appealing his red card from Saturday? Apparently he head butted and it was reported by the linesman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 08, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
why the various Posts on mc cann? another cargin lad wasw sent off - county players are allowed to be suspended
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 08, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
why the various Posts on mc cann? another cargin lad wasw sent off - county players are allowed to be suspended

Well sorry Mr Angry, I have not seen nor heard anyone claiming Kane's innocence whereas the social commentary is that Mick had done nothing bar a bit of grappling, therefore they hope he will be free for the final,

Can someone get Belfast Gaa Man some Tampax please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2020, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 08, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
why the various Posts on mc cann? another cargin lad wasw sent off - county players are allowed to be suspended

Well sorry Mr Angry, I have not seen nor heard anyone claiming Kane's innocence whereas the social commentary is that Mick had done nothing bar a bit of grappling, therefore they hope he will be free for the final,

Can someone get Belfast Gaa Man some Tampax please

I can't afford them, gave all my money to the outside manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2020, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 08, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
why the various Posts on mc cann? another cargin lad wasw sent off - county players are allowed to be suspended

Well sorry Mr Angry, I have not seen nor heard anyone claiming Kane's innocence whereas the social commentary is that Mick had done nothing bar a bit of grappling, therefore they hope he will be free for the final,

Can someone get Belfast Gaa Man some Tampax please

I can't afford them, gave all my money to the outside manager.

Sorry to hear that PJ, perhaps follow the link below and see if you can get it extended to clubs who engage these professional GAA Managers

https://www.change.org/p/target-end-pink-tax#:~:text=Gwen%20Chapman%20started%20this%20petition%20to%20Target%20and%202%20others&text=The%20pink%20is%20being%20marketed,so%20much%20they%20will%20struggle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on September 08, 2020, 04:44:55 PM
We did about enough to get over the line against the ports. Bit of luck from a free swung the balance of the game but you need that to win championships.

Watched the Cargin LD match on facebook. Can't comment on the sendings off as I didn't see any striking.

Looking forward to another lough shore final but hoping for a different outcome this time around.

Hopefully we will see a more open game this time and Cargin will come out and play a bit more rather than rely on our wastfulness in front of the sticks.

Any word of a venue yet? Heard PG1 mentioned





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2020, 07:13:07 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2020, 03:39:38 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 08, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
why the various Posts on mc cann? another cargin lad wasw sent off - county players are allowed to be suspended

Well sorry Mr Angry, I have not seen nor heard anyone claiming Kane's innocence whereas the social commentary is that Mick had done nothing bar a bit of grappling, therefore they hope he will be free for the final,

Can someone get Belfast Gaa Man some Tampax please

I can't afford them, gave all my money to the outside manager.

Sorry to hear that PJ, perhaps follow the link below and see if you can get it extended to clubs who engage these professional GAA Managers

https://www.change.org/p/target-end-pink-tax#:~:text=Gwen%20Chapman%20started%20this%20petition%20to%20Target%20and%202%20others&text=The%20pink%20is%20being%20marketed,so%20much%20they%20will%20struggle.

Thanks, by the time that I pay for the outside manager and his coach, video analysis, physio and outside catering then there's very little left in the pot, and that's only for the Un14s.

Also sponsored a seat in the new stand at Corrigan as the gaelfast money wasn't stretching. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 08, 2020, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2020, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
my bad  :o

what year did St Galls do it?

2001 and beat in both finals the year before!

That team won football and hurling every grade from U10 up with the exception of maybe one. They lost the Ulster Minor football to Clontibret in the semis and the hurling to Kevin Lynch's, after extra time I think.

Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant to the question of whether he'll be available to them and what that would mean for their chances in the final. Nobody is saying his status as their best player or being am Antrim senior should have any bearing on his suspension or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 08, 2020, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2020, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
my bad  :o

what year did St Galls do it?

2001 and beat in both finals the year before!

I was being facetious in response to Belfast Man having a hissy fit in response to my question based on the reasons laid out so eloquently by you 

That team won football and hurling every grade from U10 up with the exception of maybe one. They lost the Ulster Minor football to Clontibret in the semis and the hurling to Kevin Lynch's, after extra time I think.

Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant to the question of whether he'll be available to them and what that would mean for their chances in the final. Nobody is saying his status as their best player or being am Antrim senior should have any bearing on his suspension or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant and why more people are talking about it. It could have a massive bearing on the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2020, 09:25:44 PM
Fair play Dunloy...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2020, 09:27:42 PM
just back from our semi final v Ballymena. to be honest we were well in control for the game and looked the better side.

We even were able to take off Seaan Elliott, Keelan Molloy and Chrissy McMahon as a precaution for Sundays final. Ballymena came right back at us and took the last 4 scores to leave it a 3 point game but it was 5 mins into injury time when he blew it up.

Thank god we had no injuries so hopefully we will be good for Sundays hurling final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2020, 10:21:57 PM
Agree fully....fair play to Dunloy. All Saints would have been favourites too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2020, 08:43:36 AM
Did someone make a comment that north antrim don't do dual clubs? I see a lot of reference to that kind of comment on twitter but hadn't heard if someone said that.

Good win for Dunloy. I thought they'd be beat to be honest with the hurling though know there are a lot of good footballers in there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2020, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2020, 08:43:36 AM
Did someone make a comment that north antrim don't do dual clubs? I see a lot of reference to that kind of comment on twitter but hadn't heard if someone said that.

Good win for Dunloy. I thought they'd be beat to be honest with the hurling though know there are a lot of good footballers in there.

I remember heading down to Dunloy for the first round of the minor football championship 1988, thinking the same thing!  We scraped a 1 point win. Having hurled against those lads during that season I never thought, with the team we had, that we'd be lucky to get out of that ground!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2020, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2020, 08:43:36 AM
Did someone make a comment that north antrim don't do dual clubs? I see a lot of reference to that kind of comment on twitter but hadn't heard if someone said that.

Good win for Dunloy. I thought they'd be beat to be honest with the hurling though know there are a lot of good footballers in there.

Yeah some fella was a bit sore at us winning on Sunday past that he commented that North Antrim clubs wouldn't know what it was like to be a dual club lol

They were reminded that we've been playing football & hurling for over 100 years  ;D ;D and also that we have 6 senior football championships which is more than some better know clubs for the big ball. lol

All a bit of fun.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2020, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 09, 2020, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2020, 08:43:36 AM
Did someone make a comment that north antrim don't do dual clubs? I see a lot of reference to that kind of comment on twitter but hadn't heard if someone said that.

Good win for Dunloy. I thought they'd be beat to be honest with the hurling though know there are a lot of good footballers in there.

Yeah some fella was a bit sore at us winning on Sunday past that he commented that North Antrim clubs wouldn't know what it was like to be a dual club lol

They were reminded that we've been playing football & hurling for over 100 years  ;D ;D and also that we have 6 senior football championships which is more than some better know clubs for the big ball. lol

All a bit of fun.


;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 09, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant and why more people are talking about it. It could have a massive bearing on the outcome of the game.

I was being facetious in response to Belfast Man having a hissy fit in response to my question based on the reasons laid out so eloquently by you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2020, 02:26:39 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-county-pros-are-amateur-heroes/

Our esteemed PRO making the news himself for a change. Well worth a read.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 09, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 09, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant and why more people are talking about it. It could have a massive bearing on the outcome of the game.

I was being facetious in response to Belfast Man having a hissy fit in response to my question based on the reasons laid out so eloquently by you
Calm down Calm down. No Doubt the county Card will get saint Mick off cos even his brother, who also plays fr the county, says he should get off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 09, 2020, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 09, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 09, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant and why more people are talking about it. It could have a massive bearing on the outcome of the game.

I was being facetious in response to Belfast Man having a hissy fit in response to my question based on the reasons laid out so eloquently by you
Calm down Calm down. No Doubt the county Card will get saint Mick off cos even his brother, who also plays fr the county, says he should get off

Call me naive however I do not think that Thomas sits on the CCCC and when it comes to it this will not stop Saint Mick from playing for his County, however depending on the length of ban the County final and any championship games which follow either this year or not...............ye LD boys have taken this defeat badly  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 09, 2020, 08:59:37 PM
Were St. Paul's not supposed to walk this IFC final from some of the analysis on here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2020, 09:08:56 PM
Some comeback from moneyglass. I didn't think St. Paul's would have been close to them to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 09, 2020, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 09, 2020, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 09, 2020, 08:59:37 PM
Were St. Paul's not supposed to walk this IFC final from some of the analysis on here?
The Junior hurling maybe?

Ah, maybe that was it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2020, 07:54:28 AM
Moneyglass got out of jail last night.to set up an intriguing final against Dunloy. St Pauls pushed them to the very limit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 09:16:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2020, 07:54:28 AM
Moneyglass got out of jail last night.to set up an intriguing final against Dunloy. St Pauls pushed them to the very limit.

They certainly did, it appeared St Paul's has their number for long periods and that MGlass could not handle the intensity brought for them. It seemed they did not know how to win the game at the end up as they retreated and invited MGlass onto them even though the high press and deep ball in had worked well all night for them

St Paul's seemed to be aggrieved at the referee, however for long periods so where MGlass, does that mean that it was a job well done or that he was equally as bad to both teams, if that is possible?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2020, 10:47:07 AM
was surprised as well with that score last night. having seen Moneyglass a fair few times i thought they would be too strong for St Pauls but that wasnt the case. They were behind the whole game and managed to get it back again and into extra time.

Sets up a good final with Moneyglass favourites for it. Id say last year hurt them so they are desperate to right that this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2020, 10:47:07 AM
was surprised as well with that score last night. having seen Moneyglass a fair few times i thought they would be too strong for St Pauls but that wasnt the case. They were behind the whole game and managed to get it back again and into extra time.

Sets up a good final with Moneyglass favourites for it. Id say last year hurt them so they are desperate to right that this year.

DR getting in there early with the aul mind games, from what I seen last night and of last year's final if Dunloy bring a savagery intensity and physicality to the game it is Dunloy's to loose, MG only got in the game last night as St Pauls let them back into it IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 10, 2020, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2020, 10:47:07 AM
was surprised as well with that score last night. having seen Moneyglass a fair few times i thought they would be too strong for St Pauls but that wasnt the case. They were behind the whole game and managed to get it back again and into extra time.

Sets up a good final with Moneyglass favourites for it. Id say last year hurt them so they are desperate to right that this year.

DR getting in there early with the aul mind games, from what I seen last night and of last year's final if Dunloy bring a savagery intensity and physicality to the game it is Dunloy's to loose, MG only got in the game last night as St Pauls let them back into it IMO

I think that's slightly unfair St Paul's certainly brought a serious level of intensity but that's extremely had to sustain for 60 minutes never mind 80. Moneyglass after being overwhelmed stuck to their task and ground St Paul's down. They also kicked 6 wides in a row in the second half and dominated possession nearly all through it.

I think it's fairer to say an improved second half from Moneyglass and a tiring St Paul's team made the difference rather than St Paul's solely letting Moneyglass back into it.

Moneyglass possibly favourites based on the group game but that will count for nothing come Saturday week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 10, 2020, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 09, 2020, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 09, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 09, 2020, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 08, 2020, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
McCann is their best player.

That is irrelevant, we must not place any weight on that as he is a 'County Man'

It's relevant and why more people are talking about it. It could have a massive bearing on the outcome of the game.

I was being facetious in response to Belfast Man having a hissy fit in response to my question based on the reasons laid out so eloquently by you
Calm down Calm down. No Doubt the county Card will get saint Mick off cos even his brother, who also plays fr the county, says he should get off

Call me naive however I do not think that Thomas sits on the CCCC and when it comes to it this will not stop Saint Mick from playing for his County, however depending on the length of ban the County final and any championship games which follow either this year or not...............ye LD boys have taken this defeat badly  :'(
Cargin took Their chances and deserved to win - not a LD man just dont like county boys getting special treatment and we all know he Is going to get off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2020, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2020, 10:47:07 AM
was surprised as well with that score last night. having seen Moneyglass a fair few times i thought they would be too strong for St Pauls but that wasnt the case. They were behind the whole game and managed to get it back again and into extra time.

Sets up a good final with Moneyglass favourites for it. Id say last year hurt them so they are desperate to right that this year.

DR getting in there early with the aul mind games, from what I seen last night and of last year's final if Dunloy bring a savagery intensity and physicality to the game it is Dunloy's to loose, MG only got in the game last night as St Pauls let them back into it IMO

I wouldn't say mind games at all. they beat us this year in the group and well and truly beat us last year in the first round of the IFC. They would be justified as being favourites for this final.

I spoke their management last year after they beat us and they had been training 3 times a week working constantly on tactics and you could see that with how well drilled they were. We were lucky to even be out once in a month with a full panel to train and it showed each time we played them.

I like them as a team, i think they play good football and have a lot of good players.

They will be very hard to beat.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2020, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2020, 10:47:07 AM
was surprised as well with that score last night. having seen Moneyglass a fair few times i thought they would be too strong for St Pauls but that wasnt the case. They were behind the whole game and managed to get it back again and into extra time.

Sets up a good final with Moneyglass favourites for it. Id say last year hurt them so they are desperate to right that this year.

DR getting in there early with the aul mind games, from what I seen last night and of last year's final if Dunloy bring a savagery intensity and physicality to the game it is Dunloy's to loose, MG only got in the game last night as St Pauls let them back into it IMO

I wouldn't say mind games at all. they beat us this year in the group and well and truly beat us last year in the first round of the IFC. They would be justified as being favourites for this final.

I spoke their management last year after they beat us and they had been training 3 times a week working constantly on tactics and you could see that with how well drilled they were. We were lucky to even be out once in a month with a full panel to train and it showed each time we played them.

;) ;)

I like them as a team, i think they play good football and have a lot of good players.

They will be very hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2020, 04:31:47 PM
Any word on the red cards picked up by Kane and McCann? Have these been appealed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 10, 2020, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2020, 04:31:47 PM
Any word on the red cards picked up by Kane and McCann? Have these been appealed?

Christ man would you hold you whisht, you'll have Belfast GAA man wrecking the house if he reads that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 10, 2020, 05:14:14 PM
Belfast football is dead then? Can we start that row again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2020, 05:20:29 PM
or North Antrim is set to take over lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2020, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2020, 05:14:14 PM
Belfast football is dead then? Can we start that row again?
Any Belfast teams left at JF level? Ardoyne?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2020, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2020, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2020, 05:14:14 PM
Belfast football is dead then? Can we start that row again?
Any Belfast teams left at JF level? Ardoyne?

Ardoyne, Pearses & Antrim. You can take them from the SW saying we got St Endas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2020, 07:19:52 PM
What's the story with the junior? Sounds like a mess. O'Donnell's not gone yet either .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2020, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2020, 07:19:52 PM
What's the story with the junior? Sounds like a mess. O'Donnell's not gone yet either .

Antrim gave Mitchels the "lend" of a few lads for their game. O'Dees complaining about Score difference or something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2020, 07:44:20 PM
Yeah but it seems to be under investigation hence the delay. I saw a tweet from an ardoyne player which made it sound like it is really dragging out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2020, 08:13:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2020, 07:44:20 PM
Yeah but it seems to be under investigation hence the delay. I saw a tweet from an ardoyne player which made it sound like it is really dragging out.

I think Ulster council sent it back to the county to be looked at again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 10, 2020, 08:24:54 PM
Antrim v Mitchell's has been reviewed and recorded as FTF,  score difference had been re set. Antrim in Semi final , due to Head to head win over O'Ds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2020, 08:50:54 PM
Common sense. Why did it have to take so long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 11, 2020, 08:11:54 AM
Cargin into another Minor Final and young Johnson is another serious prospect coming through in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 11, 2020, 04:12:21 PM
Young Johnston is only 15 and he is already staring at minor level,he was also on st Mary's McCorry team last year, some going for a lad so young.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2020, 04:30:12 PM
Michaels lad isnt he? Hearing great reports about him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2020, 06:20:15 PM
A possible double double for the Toome lads.. some going there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 11, 2020, 06:52:19 PM
He would be a relation of Michael's bannside,Michael son is also a very good player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2020, 07:47:44 PM
The Toome conveyor belt is in full flow. Fair play...you put the work in Erins Boy you get the results. Hearing great reports too about Butchers fella as well...a chip off the block by all accounts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 11, 2020, 08:51:42 PM
Yeah bannside a few years ago we where wondering if we where going to be able to replace the likes of Tony Scullion ,Closy,Justy,Mick etc but it does now look that we have some seriously good players coming through again ,alot with good pedigree from  past names like the ONeills,McCanns,Gribbins,Shivers and Johnston's to name but a few all championship winning names with Cargin so the next generation is well and truly starting to make there Mark  on the senior team with more in the pipeline hopefully .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on September 12, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Used to hate playing Cargin at minor level. Always the right mix of ability and guile. There was a McLarnon (I think) who played minor around 1987. Thought he was a very skilful footballer, wonder did he play senior? That minor team was probably at the start of Cargin's rise at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: ned on September 12, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Used to hate playing Cargin at minor level. Always the right mix of ability and guile. There was a McLarnon (I think) who played minor around 1987. Thought he was a very skilful footballer, wonder did he play senior? That minor team was probably at the start of Cargin's rise at senior level.

87? If they still have lads playing who were minors at that period that's some going!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on September 12, 2020, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: ned on September 12, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Used to hate playing Cargin at minor level. Always the right mix of ability and guile. There was a McLarnon (I think) who played minor around 1987. Thought he was a very skilful footballer, wonder did he play senior? That minor team was probably at the start of Cargin's rise at senior level.

87? If they still have lads playing who were minors at that period that's some going!

Okay! Cargin won their second championship in 95 when some of the minors of that vintage would have progressed to senior.
Mind you it surprises me the number of players who appear to be still playing at least reserve football into their forties. Time for a comeback. Where's the Tramidol?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 12, 2020, 12:09:24 PM
Some acheivement alright  although I wouldn't be surprised if they lose both finals,Creggan and St Brigid's will be gunning for revenge.

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2020, 06:20:15 PM
A possible double double for the Toome lads.. some going there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
Brendan Toland doing the SFC final, give me strength, must be great to be a young aspiring referee in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Who would you prefer Calm Down, at least he's neutral
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Who would you prefer Calm Down, at least he's neutral

Conall Roberts, Karol Doherty, Snoop, McDermott from Whitehill, maybe one of those from our Ulster and national panels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Who would you prefer Calm Down, at least he's neutral
And more to the point a doubt a ref has ever reffed his own team in a county final I.e off course he will be neutral
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 09:19:44 PM
Calm down Calm Down you're frothing at the mouth lately. I merely meant that as he's from the Big Smoke then we can't say he's got a bias
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 09:21:30 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 09:19:44 PM
Calm down Calm Down you're frothing at the mouth lately. I merely meant that as he's from the Big Smoke then we can't say he's got a bias

I am perfectly calm and rational, indeed I would say it is you who is otherwise tonight given the resort to personal comments, no need to be like that Mr McDonald
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2020, 09:36:59 PM
Mckeown and mccotter are tWo good refs from the city. Thought Toland was on his way out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 09:21:30 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 13, 2020, 09:19:44 PM
Calm down Calm Down you're frothing at the mouth lately. I merely meant that as he's from the Big Smoke then we can't say he's got a bias

I am perfectly calm and rational, indeed I would say it is you who is otherwise tonight given the resort to personal comments, no need to be like that Mr McDonald
You've obviously opened the Monday club very early this week. Talking nonsense lad, pull down the shutter and go home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2020, 09:52:18 PM
Did he pick himself?  :DThought he was Chief of the refs. Decent ref but don't see him do any big game these days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2020, 09:52:18 PM
Did he pick himself?  :DThought he was Chief of the refs. Decent ref but don't see him do any big game these days

Did he? Wasn't aware it was in charge of appointments! That makes it worse for me, how do we encourage young people to get into reffing if there is mere corruption at the top with the same old names appointing themselves to the big games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 13, 2020, 10:14:21 PM
He loves making it all about himself too. Guarantee we'll be talking about him after the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
Ah hi lads would you catch yourselves on.. Toland is a decent ref, maybe the best in the county. I hope he refs the game to his usual high standards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 11:07:00 PM
Better than our National Intercounty ref Snoop?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 11:23:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 11:07:00 PM
Better than our National Intercounty ref Snoop?

Would they appoint Snoop as he's from the same parish as Cargin? Im not doubting snoop as I've know the man for years but he'd be in a no win situation there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 13, 2020, 11:31:32 PM
Refs will always get the abuse and every club will have that 1 ref they think is out to get them or they feel has shafted them before.Refs not helped by the county board and appeals process.majority of their decisons are overturned on appeal. Makes it a lot easier for people to pass judgement or question the ref. Think every red card this year has nearly being over turned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 13, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
Ah hi lads would you catch yourselves on.. Toland is a decent ref, maybe the best in the county. I hope he refs the game to his usual high standards.
Ok Brendan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 11:40:55 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 13, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
Ah hi lads would you catch yourselves on.. Toland is a decent ref, maybe the best in the county. I hope he refs the game to his usual high standards.
Ok Brendan


What?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 13, 2020, 11:57:49 PM
County chairman getting involved in refereeing decisons or providing statements against county officials.bad sign and not good for officials. Raises questions of a few people's integrity surely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 14, 2020, 07:36:55 AM
Many would say, EGOCENTRIC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 08:45:02 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 13, 2020, 11:57:49 PM
County chairman getting involved in refereeing decisons or providing statements against county officials.bad sign and not good for officials. Raises questions of a few people's integrity surely.

Pray tell wiyh regard to giving statements in relation to county officials?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 08:56:25 AM
If anything I would suggest the county chairman hasn't gone far enough, a notorious official had one team captain sent off for a non-existent indiscretion which would raise serious questions about his ability and/or impartiality.

The referee had to act on the information he was given but video evidence clearly shows that information was erroneous.

Quote from: 123Bigball on September 13, 2020, 11:57:49 PM
County chairman getting involved in refereeing decisons or providing statements against county officials.bad sign and not good for officials. Raises questions of a few people's integrity surely.

Is it safe to assume you are talking about the Mick McCann incident in the Semi final and the notorious official being Jarlath O'Donnell?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2020, 09:28:17 AM
It's a bit harsh starting to call honesty into question here is it not?

"If the official feels he made an honest assessment". What the hell is that statement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 10:04:02 AM
Happy to remove the posts to avoid any misunderstanding. For the record I'm not saying I feel there was anything untoward in the officiating. What is clear is that a player was sent off for something which simply didn't take place. That is a grave error. I think we can all agree we don't want to see such errors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:06:29 AM
What happens to the official then when the report and evidence is there to support the player.card overturned.ref not held accountable really.still get more games next season.same problems occur for another team next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:11:59 AM
Think a few of us should watch the video back on the Antrim Facebook page. If you watch clearly there a few strikes being thrown. Are we quick to judge the official based on a players reputation to date
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:06:29 AM
What happens to the official then when the report and evidence is there to support the player.card overturned.ref not held accountable really.still get more games next season.same problems occur for another team next year.

Lads do we really have enough officials to be sanctioning referees, I know Jarlath well and he is an honest man and maybe he mis-interpreted what he seen or thought he had seen at the time.

Perhaps instead of seeking to punish referees we should be questioning as to the process of appointments for all games not just the big games. Does anyone know what the process is? Do we have a panel who select the referees or is it a finger in the air job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 10:22:41 AM
I wouldn't have any issue with the referee on that particular incident,he was clearly acting on the advice of one of his officials. I think he's actually one of the better referees in the county.

The referee has an unenviable task with the new rules and they need all the help they can get.

Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:06:29 AM
What happens to the official then when the report and evidence is there to support the player.card overturned.ref not held accountable really.still get more games next season.same problems occur for another team next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 10:26:20 AM
I think you've inadvertently highlighted the real issue with officiating. Because the pool is so small,and understandably so given the abuse they take, county boards can't afford to punish an official for making a big mistake, so they continue to officiate big games no matter how poor their performance.



Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:06:29 AM
What happens to the official then when the report and evidence is there to support the player.card overturned.ref not held accountable really.still get more games next season.same problems occur for another team next year.

Lads do we really have enough officials to be sanctioning referees, I know Jarlath well and he is an honest man and maybe he mis-interpreted what he seen or thought he had seen at the time.

Perhaps instead of seeking to punish referees we should be questioning as to the process of appointments for all games not just the big games. Does anyone know what the process is? Do we have a panel who select the referees or is it a finger in the air job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 10:26:20 AM
I think you've inadvertently highlighted the real issue with officiating. Because the pool is so small,and understandably so given the abuse they take, county boards can't afford to punish an official for making a big mistake, so they continue to officiate big games no matter how poor their performance.



Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:06:29 AM
What happens to the official then when the report and evidence is there to support the player.card overturned.ref not held accountable really.still get more games next season.same problems occur for another team next year.

Lads do we really have enough officials to be sanctioning referees, I know Jarlath well and he is an honest man and maybe he mis-interpreted what he seen or thought he had seen at the time.

Perhaps instead of seeking to punish referees we should be questioning as to the process of appointments for all games not just the big games. Does anyone know what the process is? Do we have a panel who select the referees or is it a finger in the air job?

I do agree that due to a small pool the powers that be are somewhat hamstrung on who they can appoint, however I am sure Jarlath will not mind me saying it is quite some time since he officiated as a referee at SFC level, therefore why is he being rolled out to ref when the likes of Parke etc are at home?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!

No pop at either of the three parties here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:50:19 AM
What if jarlath seen more than we all seen or we can't see in the video. Camera doesn't go to incident straight away. Lahm dearg official not happy with something that has happened and is clearly seen pointing to umpires. Maybe him.amd jarlath hd better view.

Regardless be good to see both teams full out , big pitch, good referee and good honest,quality of football played after what we witnessed in final 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 10:53:25 AM
I'll balance it out with a positive - Antrim's promotion of club football and hurling during this difficult time has been excellent. Screening the semi finals free on Facebook was a great move, helped by the quality of the games of course.

Sean Kelly does a great job, as do the Saffron Gael lads. It's a credit to all involved.



Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 10:56:02 AM
I've spoken to say least 20 people, supporters from both teams, as well as neutrals, and to a man all said there was nothing in the incident which warranted a red.

Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:50:19 AM
What if jarlath seen more than we all seen or we can't see in the video. Camera doesn't go to incident straight away. Lahm dearg official not happy with something that has happened and is clearly seen pointing to umpires. Maybe him.amd jarlath hd better view.

Regardless be good to see both teams full out , big pitch, good referee and good honest,quality of football played after what we witnessed in final 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:59:11 AM
Then the appeals process should be handy.

Agree, Sean Kelly has been superb and coverage of games online has been great. Great to see hurling on tg4 yesterday. Saffron Gael top notch as always.

County panel back training this week, wonder will any new faces be added to squad after club championship performances
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:59:11 AM
Then the appeals process should be handy.

Agree, Sean Kelly has been superb and coverage of games online has been great. Great to see hurling on tg4 yesterday. Saffron Gael top notch as always.

County panel back training this week, wonder will any new faces be added to squad after club championship performances

Can it really be that handy if a qualified official has alerted the referee to what he has seen, surely it would take footage to show it didn't happen or a rescinded statement from Jarlath?

Sean Kelly is doing far more for our games in Antrim than a lot of committees over the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 11:31:44 AM
I'd be very surprised if there was a rescinded statement, how do you clearly see a headbutt, sure enough to alert the referee, and then later backtrack and say you were mistaken?

But the video is clear, nothing hapoened. That combined with multiple impartial eyewitness testimony should be enough to ensure justice prevails.


Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:59:11 AM
Then the appeals process should be handy.

Agree, Sean Kelly has been superb and coverage of games online has been great. Great to see hurling on tg4 yesterday. Saffron Gael top notch as always.

County panel back training this week, wonder will any new faces be added to squad after club championship performances

Can it really be that handy if a qualified official has alerted the referee to what he has seen, surely it would take footage to show it didn't happen or a rescinded statement from Jarlath?

Sean Kelly is doing far more for our games in Antrim than a lot of committees over the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 14, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!

No pop at either of the three parties here

You kinda did with Toland...

Always found Brendan a good referee. Fair and explained things and actually the opposite of making it about him. Also appears to have been involved in a serious number of games this year.

Haven't been on here in a good while and within a 10 minute read I can see why.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 12:50:32 PM
Ok. Goodbye then,thanks for your thoughts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 14, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!

No pop at either of the three parties here

You kinda did with Toland...

Always found Brendan a good referee. Fair and explained things and actually the opposite of making it about him. Also appears to have been involved in a serious number of games this year.

Haven't been on here in a good while and within a 10 minute read I can see why.

It was not a 'pop' at Totes was merely pointing out that there does not seem to be any encouragement or pathway for the upcoming referees if the old guard will not step aside, this was further highlighted in other posts as to lack of numbers, maybe put 2 and 2 together.

I have heard rumors as to the make up of the officiating teams for the finals next weekend and it appears that only a select few have been considered to partake and to a large degree the same people are doing both hurling and football speaks volumes as to the trust or otherwise in the rest of our officials

Oh and its easy to be involved in lots of games when you are retired and are the person who decides who is allocated which fixture
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 14, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!

No pop at either of the three parties here

You kinda did with Toland...

Always found Brendan a good referee. Fair and explained things and actually the opposite of making it about him. Also appears to have been involved in a serious number of games this year.

Haven't been on here in a good while and within a 10 minute read I can see why.

It was not a 'pop' at Totes was merely pointing out that there does not seem to be any encouragement or pathway for the upcoming referees if the old guard will not step aside, this was further highlighted in other posts as to lack of numbers, maybe put 2 and 2 together.

I have heard rumors as to the make up of the officiating teams for the finals next weekend and it appears that only a select few have been considered to partake and to a large degree the same people are doing both hurling and football speaks volumes as to the trust or otherwise in the rest of our officials

Oh and its easy to be involved in lots of games when you are retired and are the person who decides who is allocated which fixture

What are these rumours? Enlighten us pal...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 14, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
So far we've have a pop at The Chairman, Toland and Jarlath O'Donnell..

It's not even midday!

No pop at either of the three parties here

You kinda did with Toland...

Always found Brendan a good referee. Fair and explained things and actually the opposite of making it about him. Also appears to have been involved in a serious number of games this year.

Haven't been on here in a good while and within a 10 minute read I can see why.

It was not a 'pop' at Totes was merely pointing out that there does not seem to be any encouragement or pathway for the upcoming referees if the old guard will not step aside, this was further highlighted in other posts as to lack of numbers, maybe put 2 and 2 together.

I have heard rumors as to the make up of the officiating teams for the finals next weekend and it appears that only a select few have been considered to partake and to a large degree the same people are doing both hurling and football speaks volumes as to the trust or otherwise in the rest of our officials

Oh and its easy to be involved in lots of games when you are retired and are the person who decides who is allocated which fixture

What are these rumours? Enlighten us pal...

I would prefer not to indulge in presenting rumor as fact at this stage, however, if true I will post the overlaps and duplications, if not then I will hold my hands up and say I was incorrect, that ok for you 'buddy'?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
Well i suppose I may put my 2 cents in for whats its worth (feck all no doubt)

Brendan is Chair and allocates the hurling games along with Mark

There is someone else that allocates the football

CCC and the county Exc would have over seen appointments for finals and that may still be the case, a ref is nominated and needs ratified by others, in case there are objections and so on.

Appointments are (I'd assume) based on various reasons.. experience, fitness, knowledge and performances,, these are assessed, though this year has been different for obvious reasons.

The best referees get the nod for the main appointments as that what we want really, not all referees accept games and that's their choice also.

Appointments are not made by keyboard warriors with axes to grind, nor made by faceless headers who haven't the first clue, thankfully.

Clubs have no input of appointments, they may object and raise a point or two but ultimately the people that put themselves forward in these roles (spaces available if you like to join) are best placed

As for suspensions and appeals and all that other crap, they are not the concern of the referee, he fills in a report of the match and that's him done, he doesn't care as its out of his control. He may be asked to have a look at the report and see if he's happy with the content.

On the case in question the video I believe shows nothing of the incident (I only watched the match on the streaming) in question so i'd assume its irrelevant. As a referee you trust the word of your umpires and the linesmen, I mean why would they make it up? It makes no sense to bring hassle on yourself, the job is hard enough as it is.

This year, god only knows why, but there has been a marked rise is verbal abuse towards referee's.. Bullying a ref will not gain you any favours or change his mind, he may make mistakes and he'll make apologies for it, but if your are going to abuse him throughout the match, it doesnt help the cause of the team.

As for it being a small pool, it is, and the pool will only get smaller if we continue to lambast them. on a normal years assessments are given and reviewed. Fitness test and rules test are also done, you can't get championship games unless you pass them.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
Well i suppose I may put my 2 cents in for whats its worth (feck all no doubt)

Brendan is Chair and allocates the hurling games along with Mark

There is someone else that allocates the football

CCC and the county Exc would have over seen appointments for finals and that may still be the case, a ref is nominated and needs ratified by others, in case there are objections and so on.

Appointments are (I'd assume) based on various reasons.. experience, fitness, knowledge and performances,, these are assessed, though this year has been different for obvious reasons.

The best referees get the nod for the main appointments as that what we want really, not all referees accept games and that's their choice also.

Appointments are not made by keyboard warriors with axes to grind, nor made by faceless headers who haven't the first clue, thankfully.

Clubs have no input of appointments, they may object and raise a point or two but ultimately the people that put themselves forward in these roles (spaces available if you like to join) are best placed

As for suspensions and appeals and all that other crap, they are not the concern of the referee, he fills in a report of the match and that's him done, he doesn't care as its out of his control. He may be asked to have a look at the report and see if he's happy with the content.

On the case in question the video I believe shows nothing of the incident (I only watched the match on the streaming) in question so i'd assume its irrelevant. As a referee you trust the word of your umpires and the linesmen, I mean why would they make it up? It makes no sense to bring hassle on yourself, the job is hard enough as it is.

This year, god only knows why, but there has been a marked rise is verbal abuse towards referee's.. Bullying a ref will not gain you any favours or change his mind, he may make mistakes and he'll make apologies for it, but if your are going to abuse him throughout the match, it doesnt help the cause of the team.

As for it being a small pool, it is, and the pool will only get smaller if we continue to lambast them. on a normal years assessments are given and reviewed. Fitness test and rules test are also done, you can't get championship games unless you pass them.

Thank you for the insight MR2, I apologies if I misunderstood Brendan's role (I can see you're vested interest considering you were doing the SHC yesterday), can you please tell the room who allocates the football fixtures then?

As for referee abuse and making things up I could not agree more, as a retired referee with a good few year's service it would not make sense to make up incidents and unless the GAA take a strong hold on abuse i fear the organisation is going to continue down a dark path in regard to the club game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 02:57:27 PM
The video is far from irrelevant, the cameraman caught a prolonged scuffle on camera and there was nothing in it to warrant a red card for the player in question. Multiple independent witnesses have stated that there was nothing to warrant a red card.

I agree officials do a very difficult job, and they should be afforded some leeway for that. I wouldn't do it for love nor money. Some do a great job and nobody expects even the best of them to be flawless. However there is undoubtedly an element who consistently don't do a good job,and it's right and fair that they can be criticised accordingly,albeit without crossing into vitriolic abuse or threats. It goes without saying that's unacceptable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
Well i suppose I may put my 2 cents in for whats its worth (feck all no doubt)

Brendan is Chair and allocates the hurling games along with Mark

There is someone else that allocates the football

CCC and the county Exc would have over seen appointments for finals and that may still be the case, a ref is nominated and needs ratified by others, in case there are objections and so on.

Appointments are (I'd assume) based on various reasons.. experience, fitness, knowledge and performances,, these are assessed, though this year has been different for obvious reasons.

The best referees get the nod for the main appointments as that what we want really, not all referees accept games and that's their choice also.

Appointments are not made by keyboard warriors with axes to grind, nor made by faceless headers who haven't the first clue, thankfully.

Clubs have no input of appointments, they may object and raise a point or two but ultimately the people that put themselves forward in these roles (spaces available if you like to join) are best placed

As for suspensions and appeals and all that other crap, they are not the concern of the referee, he fills in a report of the match and that's him done, he doesn't care as its out of his control. He may be asked to have a look at the report and see if he's happy with the content.

On the case in question the video I believe shows nothing of the incident (I only watched the match on the streaming) in question so i'd assume its irrelevant. As a referee you trust the word of your umpires and the linesmen, I mean why would they make it up? It makes no sense to bring hassle on yourself, the job is hard enough as it is.

This year, god only knows why, but there has been a marked rise is verbal abuse towards referee's.. Bullying a ref will not gain you any favours or change his mind, he may make mistakes and he'll make apologies for it, but if your are going to abuse him throughout the match, it doesnt help the cause of the team.

As for it being a small pool, it is, and the pool will only get smaller if we continue to lambast them. on a normal years assessments are given and reviewed. Fitness test and rules test are also done, you can't get championship games unless you pass them.

Thank you for the insight MR2, I apologies if I misunderstood Brendan's role (I can see you're vested interest considering you were doing the SHC yesterday), can you please tell the room who allocates the football fixtures then?

As for referee abuse and making things up I could not agree more, as a retired referee with a good few year's service it would not make sense to make up incidents and unless the GAA take a strong hold on abuse i fear the organisation is going to continue down a dark path in regard to the club game

My vested interest is not about getting the top games never has been, I've been at this 14 years plus ... i answered the call at an AGM and was roped in, I was still playing and managing teams within club. Friday night before the county final i was ref'ing under 16 b league in Gorts and on Sat i was doing the line at the Minor b final, you take all the games and give it the same effort.

As for who allocates the football, I'd rather not name people other than lads I know who don't mind..

I've probably not endeared myself in certain places because of this board, maybe missed a few opportunities also, but my mussing's on here are just that, banter, wind up and a bitta craic to take the piss. I'm passionate about my club, but that stops when I'm refereeing

As a player/manager/supporter/ref I've been lucky to view all levels of these sports, from south Antrim championships to days out in Croke Park, its difficult not to view it through a biased approach when a call goes against you, but whats the alternatives here?

Coaching, assessments, rules tests and fitness tests are carried out, emails are sent on rules and questionnaires done also. I can't fault that side of things in fairness, there are open lines to the ref's committee and a Whatsapp page to talk over rules and other stuff..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
Well i suppose I may put my 2 cents in for whats its worth (feck all no doubt)

Brendan is Chair and allocates the hurling games along with Mark

There is someone else that allocates the football

CCC and the county Exc would have over seen appointments for finals and that may still be the case, a ref is nominated and needs ratified by others, in case there are objections and so on.

Appointments are (I'd assume) based on various reasons.. experience, fitness, knowledge and performances,, these are assessed, though this year has been different for obvious reasons.

The best referees get the nod for the main appointments as that what we want really, not all referees accept games and that's their choice also.

Appointments are not made by keyboard warriors with axes to grind, nor made by faceless headers who haven't the first clue, thankfully.

Clubs have no input of appointments, they may object and raise a point or two but ultimately the people that put themselves forward in these roles (spaces available if you like to join) are best placed

As for suspensions and appeals and all that other crap, they are not the concern of the referee, he fills in a report of the match and that's him done, he doesn't care as its out of his control. He may be asked to have a look at the report and see if he's happy with the content.

On the case in question the video I believe shows nothing of the incident (I only watched the match on the streaming) in question so i'd assume its irrelevant. As a referee you trust the word of your umpires and the linesmen, I mean why would they make it up? It makes no sense to bring hassle on yourself, the job is hard enough as it is.

This year, god only knows why, but there has been a marked rise is verbal abuse towards referee's.. Bullying a ref will not gain you any favours or change his mind, he may make mistakes and he'll make apologies for it, but if your are going to abuse him throughout the match, it doesnt help the cause of the team.

As for it being a small pool, it is, and the pool will only get smaller if we continue to lambast them. on a normal years assessments are given and reviewed. Fitness test and rules test are also done, you can't get championship games unless you pass them.

Thank you for the insight MR2, I apologies if I misunderstood Brendan's role (I can see you're vested interest considering you were doing the SHC yesterday), can you please tell the room who allocates the football fixtures then?

As for referee abuse and making things up I could not agree more, as a retired referee with a good few year's service it would not make sense to make up incidents and unless the GAA take a strong hold on abuse i fear the organisation is going to continue down a dark path in regard to the club game

My vested interest is not about getting the top games never has been, I've been at this 14 years plus ... i answered the call at an AGM and was roped in, I was still playing and managing teams within club. Friday night before the county final i was ref'ing under 16 b league in Gorts and on Sat i was doing the line at the Minor b final, you take all the games and give it the same effort.

As for who allocates the football, I'd rather not name people other than lads I know who don't mind..

I've probably not endeared myself in certain places because of this board, maybe missed a few opportunities also, but my mussing's on here are just that, banter, wind up and a bitta craic to take the piss. I'm passionate about my club, but that stops when I'm refereeing

As a player/manager/supporter/ref I've been lucky to view all levels of these sports, from south Antrim championships to days out in Croke Park, its difficult not to view it through a biased approach when a call goes against you, but whats the alternatives here?

Coaching, assessments, rules tests and fitness tests are carried out, emails are sent on rules and questionnaires done also. I can't fault that side of things in fairness, there are open lines to the ref's committee and a Whatsapp page to talk over rules and other stuff..

Your reluctance to provide viability as to how football games are allocated only make its more intriguing.

I have no doubt you are a passionate GAA man MR2 that is clear by the amount of games etc you seem to do.

Speaking to some ref's in Antrim they have told me they need see an assessment report, albeit that doesn't mean they have not been assessed 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
There is no mystery to it at all, there has been a dedicated person that allocates the football games for a while now, having been given games I know who it is, its not Brendan, can you at least accept that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
There is no mystery to it at all, there has been a dedicated person that allocates the football games for a while now, having been given games I know who it is, its not Brendan, can you at least accept that?

I have no problem accepting that at all, I have never once questioned your integrity nor you amplitude to be honest.

So does this man or woman phone or text you directly? Seems like a very time consuming task for one person. In my day, they used to post out reports and that is how you found out your game if not the newspaper, however I suspect with technology things may have moved on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
There is no mystery to it at all, there has been a dedicated person that allocates the football games for a while now, having been given games I know who it is, its not Brendan, can you at least accept that?

I have no problem accepting that at all, I have never once questioned your integrity nor you amplitude to be honest.

So does this man or woman phone or text you directly? Seems like a very time consuming task for one person. In my day, they used to post out reports and that is how you found out your game if not the newspaper, however I suspect with technology things may have moved on

Automated texting service that gives games, reminders before game starts and another text to report scores.. great set up, until recently but i think thats across the board (all counties having same issues)

This person would be out every night sometimes at 3 games per day recently during championship, you can not fault his attitude and application in fairness.

So can we talk about the game on Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
There is no mystery to it at all, there has been a dedicated person that allocates the football games for a while now, having been given games I know who it is, its not Brendan, can you at least accept that?

I have no problem accepting that at all, I have never once questioned your integrity nor you amplitude to be honest.

So does this man or woman phone or text you directly? Seems like a very time consuming task for one person. In my day, they used to post out reports and that is how you found out your game if not the newspaper, however I suspect with technology things may have moved on

Automated texting service that gives games, reminders before game starts and another text to report scores.. great set up, until recently but i think thats across the board (all counties having same issues)

This person would be out every night sometimes at 3 games per day recently during championship, you can not fault his attitude and application in fairness.

So can we talk about the game on Sunday?

Fair dues to that guy then

Sunday, hmm! Unfortunately, I think this comes back to the issue of the potential bans and appeals. I feel if Mick plays then this is equal to say psychologically 4 points against Creggan given the apparent lift they got from his sending off.

I think all we can hope for is a better game than 2 years ago.

What about the minor final, I understand these are the two best teams and should be competitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2020, 05:15:01 PM

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I have no problem accepting that at all, I have never once questioned your integrity nor you amplitude to be honest.

Amplitude??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 05:29:39 PM
I think Creggan will be a very different proposition this time round. They shot themselves in the foot two years ago with Madden's ridiculous ultra-defensive setup.

Cargin have the better footballers but as we saw with St Galls this year, there comes a point when that's not enough. Eventually the younger legs can bridge the gap.

I wouldn't like to call it but I'd give Creggan more of a chance than the bookies do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 05:49:03 PM
Both teams were very defensive that day as Tomas said last week in his interview.i think creggan kicked near 14 wide's that day and missed a series of what looked like scorable frees. Cargin seemed to retreat alot against LD and happy to try hit them on the break. Had serious numbers back at times. I think big pitch like pg1 will make this a different game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2020, 05:15:01 PM


I have no problem accepting that at all, I have never once questioned your integrity nor you amplitude to be honest.

Amplitude??
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Apologies I clearly meant 'aptitude'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 14, 2020, 06:12:46 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 11:31:44 AM
I'd be very surprised if there was a rescinded statement, how do you clearly see a headbutt, sure enough to alert the referee, and then later backtrack and say you were mistaken?

But the video is clear, nothing hapoened. That combined with multiple impartial eyewitness testimony should be enough to ensure justice prevails.


Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:59:11 AM
Then the appeals process should be handy.

Agree, Sean Kelly has been superb and coverage of games online has been great. Great to see hurling on tg4 yesterday. Saffron Gael top notch as always.

County panel back training this week, wonder will any new faces be added to squad after club championship performances

Can it really be that handy if a qualified official has alerted the referee to what he has seen, surely it would take footage to show it didn't happen or a rescinded statement from Jarlath?

Sean Kelly is doing far more for our games in Antrim than a lot of committees over the year
The video is clear because the camera was looking at the other melee over on the far right hand side you absolute gobshite. Mccann and herron were in the melee out of picture...
Both were sent off because they obviously warranted a straight red for one reason or another, and mccann should be suspended for the final. Although as its antrim and its cargin, i wouldnt be surprised if he got off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 14, 2020, 07:14:48 PM
I assume you were standing with Cargin ones  ;D
The camera showed a different melee to the one Mccann was involved in. Do try to keep up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 08:58:11 PM
Spread the love lads ffs..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 09:03:19 PM
Was there tickets available for neutrals at these games? I'd have thought with demand so high it would have been a draw within the club?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 14, 2020, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
You assume wrong. Unlike you I have no bias on this incident. I don't need to keep up, I saw it with my own eyes. You weren't there, so take your slabbering elsewhere.
Youve yapped all night regarding the integrity of officials, who saw reason to send players off, so you clearly are bothered ;D
Didn't need to be there, the game was streamed. As you were there, that would suggest you are a either a member of Cargin or LD, or got a ticket from a member of these clubs, which would explain your biased and ill-informed views on the matter.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 14, 2020, 09:26:16 PM
One of many possible explanations hardstation. Yer man there is all heat and no light so I'll leave him to his bluster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Peter john on September 14, 2020, 10:01:35 PM
Any chance off them playing in different kits for the senior final,clash off jerseys

Cargins away kit is best I've seen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:15:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Peter john on September 14, 2020, 10:01:35 PM
Any chance off them playing in different kits for the senior final,clash off jerseys

Cargins away kit is best I've seen!

The black one? That is pretty tasty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:15:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2020, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: Peter john on September 14, 2020, 10:01:35 PM
Any chance off them playing in different kits for the senior final,clash off jerseys

Cargins away kit is best I've seen!

The black one? That is pretty tasty

Yes, great design
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2020, 10:31:53 PM
On a related note, there was an email issued to clubs today regarding verbal abuse of referees and I think it is timely. The abuse of refs from players and sidelines is way beyond acceptable. It a wholesale thing now, even in juvenile games. There is no short term answer but the old 'give respect / get respect' isn't cutting it these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 14, 2020, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2020, 10:31:53 PM
On a related note, there was an email issued to clubs today regarding verbal abuse of referees and I think it is timely. The abuse of refs from players and sidelines is way beyond acceptable. It a wholesale thing now, even in juvenile games. There is no short term answer but the old 'give respect / get respect' isn't cutting it these days.

Brendan would be interested in seeing the tact being taken, do you happen to have the text of the email?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2020, 11:26:25 PM
Your club secretary will have it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 15, 2020, 10:21:43 AM
So what the story with Sunday then.450 max crowd or 450 including stewards and panels. Be some people coming in through the hedges looking to see the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Big boost for Cargin. Mick and Marty both cleared to play in Sundays final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Big boost for Cargin. Mick and Marty both cleared to play in Sundays final.

Wonder what the evidence was which was presented?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 11:10:39 AM
Heard BBC had videoed the game also and that video captured all of the incident and was used at the ccc hearing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:11:41 AM
Officials must have back tracked if they both exonerated! Them 2 officials judgement will be questioned at every opportunity now. Are we better to go back to if the ref didn't see it no one seen it then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 11:13:40 AM
Then what is the point in the other officials?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:14:59 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 11:10:39 AM
Heard BBC had videoed the game also and that video captured all of the incident and was used at the ccc hearing

Well then however said they did strike when they didn't should never get a game again in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:14:59 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 11:10:39 AM
Heard BBC had videoed the game also and that video captured all of the incident and was used at the ccc hearing

Well then however said they did strike when they didn't should never get a game again in Antrim.

Speaking to a gent last night who suggested our esteemed Chairman was giving a statement on behalf of Mick McCann that he witnessed the incident and that there was no strike. This raises real questions as to McCavana's role in the County Board, he is getting too involved in my opinion and it appears he does not know where his 'power' begins and ends. Further if this is the case if I were Big Ball Small Ball I would be driving to the County Office today and dropping off my Antrim referee jerseys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 16, 2020, 11:22:39 AM
What if our Chairman happened was at the match and happened to have a good view of the incident? Should he then simply stay quiet because he is the Chairman? Surely an independent witness with a useful contribution to make can make it, regardless of position within the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 16, 2020, 11:22:39 AM
What if our Chairman happened was at the match and happened to have a good view of the incident? Should he then simply stay quiet because he is the Chairman? Surely an independent witness with a useful contribution to make can make it, regardless of position within the county.

In a round about way you make my point, you believe as he is chairman his word is more believable than others?

How many independent witnesses do we listen to then, is his word more believable than the linesman who informed the ref of the transgression? Is he not neutral?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 16, 2020, 11:28:30 AM
I don't think anyone should be ruled out of giving their account just because of their status. Mistakes can be made, it is clear from the video there was no headbutt. Isn't it better that is resolved prior to the final rather than afterwards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:32:38 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 16, 2020, 11:28:30 AM
I don't think anyone should be ruled out of giving their account just because of their status. Mistakes can be made, it is clear from the video there was no headbutt. Isn't it better that is resolved prior to the final rather than afterwards?

How many times, the video does not show the full incident, so are you saying that Jarlath was mistaken in what he saw or is it the fact he down right lie and set out to stitch McCann up? Which is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:38:13 AM
But the BBC evidence which was presented must show the full incident. Therefore the officials are in question now surely. Stand down or be stood down.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:44:02 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:38:13 AM
But the BBC evidence which was presented must show the full incident. Therefore the officials are in question now surely. Stand down or be stood down.

Is this footage on the BBC website?

I don't think the officials are being stood down, McDonald was:

Referee for IHC final on Saturday past
Stanby ref for SHC final on Sunday past
Is Standby for IFC final on Saturday coming

The whole thing is a mess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 11:45:37 AM
What is this? The anti officials thread?

A mistake was made. You know... a mistake.

It's not the EPL where officials get stood down either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 11:45:37 AM
What is this? The anti officials thread?

A mistake was made. You know... a mistake.

It's not the EPL where officials get stood down either.

I am not having a pop at the officials, if anything I am somewhat bemused as to what weight is not attached to the words and report of neutral officials when the BBC and a county official can overule what they say they had seen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 11:50:11 AM
I recall talking to a barrister three years ago about a case he was on. He said that it consistently happened that if ten people seen an incident , that 3 out of that ten will have seen a slightly different version to the other seven. And that the devil was always in the detail of what each seen, although they all thought they seen the same thing. It was an insight to me.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:52:44 AM
It's a pretty big mistake to show 2 red cards for strikinghl/headbutting and for both to be exonerated. So there must be strong evidence in the players favour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 12:07:48 PM
Jesus lads!!
?
The referee is going with his  other official, be it a linesman or umpire, why are people questioning the referee?

For instance, i yellow carded two players on Sunday, based on what they said, granted on reflection one of them could have been a red after I after chatting to others after the game as the recording never showed much, but the aftermath of a ripped off helmet would be evidence enough..

asking for referees to stand down is all well and good lads but I really don't think some people on here know the extent of the referee recruitment lately, who wants to become a referee when you have people questioning them for every call?

a few things, not every tackle is a free, not every free is a card or sending off and your interpretation of the rules are different to the man in the middle whos got to react right away and may be in a different angle to you.

Some peoples knowledge of the rules (supporters) is terrible and i would think they would get less than half the questions right if they sat a test.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 12:10:31 PM
Well then are the 2 officials and umpires to blame in this case and not the referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2020, 12:15:48 PM
Popcorn anybody?

For once I agree with MR2..  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 12:24:21 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 11:45:37 AM
What is this? The anti officials thread?

A mistake was made. You know... a mistake.

It's not the EPL where officials get stood down either.

I am not having a pop at the officials, if anything I am somewhat bemused as to what weight is not attached to the words and report of neutral officials when the BBC and a county official can overule what they say they had seen

No you have saved yourself for the county chairman ;D

It's the stand down or be stood down language. Jesus. Boys who have done official for years and have made a mistake so should be hung out to dry. I think we're getting a bit carried away with things here :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on September 16, 2020, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 12:07:48 PM
Jesus lads!!
?
The referee is going with his  other official, be it a linesman or umpire, why are people questioning the referee?

For instance, i yellow carded two players on Sunday, based on what they said, granted on reflection one of them could have been a red after I after chatting to others after the game as the recording never showed much, but the aftermath of a ripped off helmet would be evidence enough..

asking for referees to stand down is all well and good lads but I really don't think some people on here know the extent of the referee recruitment lately, who wants to become a referee when you have people questioning them for every call?

a few things, not every tackle is a free, not every free is a card or sending off and your interpretation of the rules are different to the man in the middle whos got to react right away and may be in a different angle to you.

Some peoples knowledge of the rules (supporters) is terrible and i would think they would get less than half the questions right if they sat a test.

Hope Colm wasn't using the same umpires he'd down at our place a few weeks back.......
How one managed to give a 65 after every man and his dog (even the Irish News hack) saw that the ball had come off a forward was staggering..
He also sent one of our lads off on the say so of someone else and even the Ballycran supporters didn't know what it was for.

I think he's a dead on referee (hurling wise) just been badly served by those around him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2020, 01:12:45 PM
So it's Colm McDonalds turn to feel the wrath today..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 01:25:31 PM
Not from me, Colm acted on what he was told by Jarlath who I don not believe would have any reason to lie, therefore both at Scott free here, it is the basis of appeal and evidence submitted which our worries me.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 12:10:31 PM
Well then are the 2 officials and umpires to blame in this case and not the referee.

So how many seen it and informed him?

I thought it was just the one.


And the amount of information a mate of a friend knows who seen a video of angle form the side of the hedge that no one else seen ..

Anyways anyone got a spare ticket for the match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 01:32:45 PM
Seems to be a great hill behind one of the goals in pg1 beside a small graveyard. Could be a few heading for it as a view point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 01:33:49 PM
Is it live on anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 01:35:23 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 01:32:45 PM
Seems to be a great hill behind one of the goals in pg1 beside a small graveyard. Could be a few heading for it as a view point.

Could possible know someone in the graveyard, so may pay my respects  ;)

Yes games live, but Id rather go and not watch the match but record everything else! and sell it on Ebay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 16, 2020, 01:38:39 PM
Perhaps we should be appreciative that the correct decision was made in the end following evidence from 2 cameras and independent witnesses.  All of our clubs have felt the benefits / detriments of innocent players being involved / missing matches following harsh suspensions so the disciplinary committee are to be commended for using technology when it can clearly show innocence.

Jarlath perhaps had a poor or fleeting view of a struggle between 2 players. That's not to say he was quick to comment but perhaps in hindsight he is grateful the video showed a better angle than he had and im sure he was pleased that justice was served eventually.

The referee is innocent in all this and was only acting on the advice of his official. Jarlath should not be hounded because of this as again, it appears it was a quick view in real time without the benefit of instant reply.  jarlath has served antrim county for countless years and was trying to appraise a melee with large numbers of players involved which is difficult.

Neither Cargin nor Creggan can have any complaints now about the outcome of the match on Sunday.  It will be a tight game as they always are, hopefully a better fare than 2 years ago. Lets face it, it cant be any worse. Creggan will need to come out more and Cargin will need to ensure they are more direct if it is to be a spectacle at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Previous CCC's have stood referees down for " Mis-representing" in reports or blatantly telling fibs but this CCC or this Refs committee no chance, toothless tigers. No time has been put into referees or real recruitment apart from the usual, get one or your play away from home etc etc.. The players in question have all been there before and walked, its the usual story so why sound so shocked, and remember we all (Club Delegates) put them in at the top, so you reap what you sow.. If it had of been an O'Ds or Eire Og, Shane oneills etc you wouldn't have stood a pups chance.... The standard of officials at present is poor bar a few to say the least and whats in there have had no time or structure put into them to do the right thing always no matter who or what. Spoke with a national ref from Antrim recently at a match who is refereeing in Derry because he wasn't asked to stay on after he retired from national panel, but can referee in county finals elsewhere? Why? Its the Gaa, the story will never change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2020, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 16, 2020, 01:38:39 PM
Perhaps we should be appreciative that the correct decision was made in the end following evidence from 2 cameras and independent witnesses.  All of our clubs have felt the benefits / detriments of innocent players being involved / missing matches following harsh suspensions so the disciplinary committee are to be commended for using technology when it can clearly show innocence.

Jarlath perhaps had a poor or fleeting view of a struggle between 2 players. That's not to say he was quick to comment but perhaps in hindsight he is grateful the video showed a better angle than he had and im sure he was pleased that justice was served eventually.

The referee is innocent in all this and was only acting on the advice of his official. Jarlath should not be hounded because of this as again, it appears it was a quick view in real time without the benefit of instant reply.  jarlath has served antrim county for countless years and was trying to appraise a melee with large numbers of players involved which is difficult.

Neither Cargin nor Creggan can have any complaints now about the outcome of the match on Sunday.  It will be a tight game as they always are, hopefully a better fare than 2 years ago. Lets face it, it cant be any worse. Creggan will need to come out more and Cargin will need to ensure they are more direct if it is to be a spectacle at all.

The wisest post on here for a long time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Previous CCC's have stood referees down for " Mis-representing" in reports or blatantly telling fibs but this CCC or this Refs committee no chance, toothless tigers. No time has been put into referees or real recruitment apart from the usual, get one or your play away from home etc etc.. The players in question have all been there before and walked, its the usual story so why sound so shocked, and remember we all (Club Delegates) put them in at the top, so you reap what you sow.. If it had of been an O'Ds or Eire Og, Shane oneills etc you wouldn't have stood a pups chance.... The standard of officials at present is poor bar a few to say the least and whats in there have had no time or structure put into them to do the right thing always no matter who or what. Spoke with a national ref from Antrim recently at a match who is refereeing in Derry because he wasn't asked to stay on after he retired from national panel, but can referee in county finals elsewhere? Why? Its the Gaa, the story will never change.

We've also referee's that ref in other counties, One ref the Tyrone county final last week, another the Down semi final, and we have plenty ref's from Dpown and Derry refereeing in Antrim.

No time? I remember when I started you had the two or three day event in Dunsilly hotel, really good prep and training with various intercounty referees on board. no fitness test given and that was you.

It has evolved since, one year there was a health check on all referees, though they havent done it again as we lost a few after that with medical issues lol

Currently we follow the same protocol as all the other Ulster counties do, every Jan we have the in house day, includes going over rules new rules videos and reviewing what the county expects, talks from CCC and the main part of the night is done by two intercounty referees that are on the assessment panels also..

We have a beep test, thats a must pass, and you cant referee championship without passing it...

You have a rules test, again you must get 85% correct minimum, and the referee committee also email the referees questions on the rules throughout the year.

And you have the Assessors,  granted we could maybe do with more of this but struggling to get referees never mind an assessor, but they are being done, I'd 2 last year

I can't see what more you'd like them to do, but I'm interested in how you can improve whats being done already, anything extra would be of great help
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 02:38:17 PM
maybe this is already done, but the referees championship panel, do they meet regularly to review selected video footage of matches to try and get a uniform agreement about what a tackle is, what a foul is etc, so at least their is an attempt to get a uniform approach. ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 02:38:17 PM
maybe this is already done, but the referees championship panel, do they meet regularly to review selected video footage of matches to try and get a uniform agreement about what a tackle is, what a foul is etc, so at least their is an attempt to get a uniform approach. ??

I think there is always room for improvement, and there's not one referee who wouldn't take extra work if they felt it would help. We do have a system that the Intercounty referee's are available to chat and go over rules or other things they feel they need help on.

Whats a tackle? christ! your view on a tackle on a club man may be very different to that of the other supporter!

I've yet to hear a supporter shout at the ref that his own club player has fouled a player and you want a card dished out also!

If we are following a uniformed approach across Ulster then we are doing whats asked, and no doubt this is the approach from Croke Park, I can't see it being any different. but if you went on to any forum on GAA there will be people complaining about ref's up and down the country

Video footage of our own performance? or just in general? we do that all on the training day at the start of the year, its lasts for about 2 hours and to a man, everyone has a different approach.

We could maybe look at our own performances and I've done that recently, I've already made a point that there was a couple of calls i would have called different, but its split second decisions. 

Fine margins and all that can make a difference, but mistakes happen in all games, players and managers make more mistakes in games than referees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 16, 2020, 04:05:39 PM
123 big load of balls .

Good to see justice was done regarding the Cargin captain incident.

Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2020, 10:11:59 AM
Think a few of us should watch the video back on the Antrim Facebook page. If you watch clearly there a few strikes being thrown. Are we quick to judge the official based on a players reputation to date
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 04:38:45 PM
Lol,watch it without the green tinted glasses on. Don't forget there were 2 incidents not just the captain. All the more makes it a better game for neutrals. 2 teams at full strength
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 16, 2020, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:14:59 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 11:10:39 AM
Heard BBC had videoed the game also and that video captured all of the incident and was used at the ccc hearing

Well then however said they did strike when they didn't should never get a game again in Antrim.

Speaking to a gent last night who suggested our esteemed Chairman was giving a statement on behalf of Mick McCann that he witnessed the incident and that there was no strike. This raises real questions as to McCavana's role in the County Board, he is getting too involved in my opinion and it appears he does not know where his 'power' begins and ends. Further if this is the case if I were Big Ball Small Ball I would be driving to the County Office today and dropping off my Antrim referee jerseys

Calm Down Calm Down, you've a stroke looming.  Tranquillise yourself or stay in the Monday club please or climb back under your big rock you clown.
I've never been so badly and rudely insulted on this board before. How bloody dare you infer that I am a referee!!!!

PS Think it's unjust that 2 Cargin lads get reds overturned but it's a sign of the times and Co Board authority has crumbled like Trumps Mexican Wall and Brexit agreement. Didn't happen to Clifford in Kerry. Not fair on Creggan but we all expected this outcome to be likely one
Are we gonna get a ref from outside the county who we can't lambast.  Outcome not fair on the Antrim refs and match officials either

PPS, at least get my moniker right next time Climb Down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 16, 2020, 04:47:30 PM
I couldn't give a fiddler's f*ck who wins,no green tinted glasses here.

Maybe you should avoid slabbering with misplaced confidence on matters you didn't even see in future though, there's a good boy.

Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 04:38:45 PM
Lol,watch it without the green tinted glasses on. Don't forget there were 2 incidents not just the captain. All the more makes it a better game for neutrals. 2 teams at full strength
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 16, 2020, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 16, 2020, 11:14:59 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2020, 11:10:39 AM
Heard BBC had videoed the game also and that video captured all of the incident and was used at the ccc hearing

Well then however said they did strike when they didn't should never get a game again in Antrim.

Speaking to a gent last night who suggested our esteemed Chairman was giving a statement on behalf of Mick McCann that he witnessed the incident and that there was no strike. This raises real questions as to McCavana's role in the County Board, he is getting too involved in my opinion and it appears he does not know where his 'power' begins and ends. Further if this is the case if I were Big Ball Small Ball I would be driving to the County Office today and dropping off my Antrim referee jerseys

Calm Down Calm Down, you've a stroke looming.  Tranquillise yourself or stay in the Monday club please or climb back under your big rock you clown.
I've never been so badly and rudely insulted on this board before. How bloody dare you infer that I am a referee!!!!

PS Think it's unjust that 2 Cargin lads get reds overturned but it's a sign of the times and Co Board authority has crumbled like Trumps Mexican Wall and Brexit agreement. Didn't happen to Clifford in Kerry. Not fair on Creggan but we all expected this outcome to be likely one
Are we gonna get a ref from outside the county who we can't lambast.  Outcome not fair on the Antrim refs and match officials either

PPS, at least get my moniker right next time Climb Down

Big Ball Wee Ball my sincerest apologies, I was trying to maintain a relatively high level of grammar, however if you insist I will succumb to your common vernacular

Thank you for your concern, however, I am in fine fettle

I do agree the referee has been hung out to dry here by an inept county board, however, what do we expect if the most high Chairman is giving statements. The question begs did he approach the CCCC offering a statement or did they approach him?

P.s. Insulted at being mistaken for a referee? Do we not all aspire to be like MR2, or at least MR2 with more hair?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 05:18:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Previous CCC's have stood referees down for " Mis-representing" in reports or blatantly telling fibs but this CCC or this Refs committee no chance, toothless tigers. No time has been put into referees or real recruitment apart from the usual, get one or your play away from home etc etc.. The players in question have all been there before and walked, its the usual story so why sound so shocked, and remember we all (Club Delegates) put them in at the top, so you reap what you sow.. If it had of been an O'Ds or Eire Og, Shane oneills etc you wouldn't have stood a pups chance.... The standard of officials at present is poor bar a few to say the least and whats in there have had no time or structure put into them to do the right thing always no matter who or what. Spoke with a national ref from Antrim recently at a match who is refereeing in Derry because he wasn't asked to stay on after he retired from national panel, but can referee in county finals elsewhere? Why? Its the Gaa, the story will never change.

We've also referee's that ref in other counties, One ref the Tyrone county final last week, another the Down semi final, and we have plenty ref's from Dpown and Derry refereeing in Antrim.

No time? I remember when I started you had the two or three day event in Dunsilly hotel, really good prep and training with various intercounty referees on board. no fitness test given and that was you.

It has evolved since, one year there was a health check on all referees, though they havent done it again as we lost a few after that with medical issues lol

Currently we follow the same protocol as all the other Ulster counties do, every Jan we have the in house day, includes going over rules new rules videos and reviewing what the county expects, talks from CCC and the main part of the night is done by two intercounty referees that are on the assessment panels also..

We have a beep test, thats a must pass, and you cant referee championship without passing it...

You have a rules test, again you must get 85% correct minimum, and the referee committee also email the referees questions on the rules throughout the year.

And you have the Assessors,  granted we could maybe do with more of this but struggling to get referees never mind an assessor, but they are being done, I'd 2 last year

I can't see what more you'd like them to do, but I'm interested in how you can improve whats being done already, anything extra would be of great help

All looks and sounds good on paper MR2 and i would expect nothing but loyalty if i was was BT. However the reality as we all know is completely different and its been for all to see. Not getting into a ping pong with you on this you've done well personally, great to have a county senior medal if you ever actually get it, which i would say would be 50/50 but happy to stand corrected on that one, maybe that has changed in recent times also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 05:35:14 PM
No ping pong at all, I'm happy after my involvement for championship is over to have debate and an honest one.
I've no axe to grind nor do I have deep set loyalties, I've been at loggerheads in the past with county committees as a manager when things went against me, and put them on here!

The information I give on our set up is real, I'd be happy if we can curb the abuse. It's been getting worse and every club has it. No club is free from it. It'll take the club themselves to police it, I think if they do it'll make it better.

If you feel I've said untruths I'd like to know what they are? Club loyalty and biased opinions will always be at the forefront of some people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 05:53:18 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 05:18:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Previous CCC's have stood referees down for " Mis-representing" in reports or blatantly telling fibs but this CCC or this Refs committee no chance, toothless tigers. No time has been put into referees or real recruitment apart from the usual, get one or your play away from home etc etc.. The players in question have all been there before and walked, its the usual story so why sound so shocked, and remember we all (Club Delegates) put them in at the top, so you reap what you sow.. If it had of been an O'Ds or Eire Og, Shane oneills etc you wouldn't have stood a pups chance.... The standard of officials at present is poor bar a few to say the least and whats in there have had no time or structure put into them to do the right thing always no matter who or what. Spoke with a national ref from Antrim recently at a match who is refereeing in Derry because he wasn't asked to stay on after he retired from national panel, but can referee in county finals elsewhere? Why? Its the Gaa, the story will never change.

We've also referee's that ref in other counties, One ref the Tyrone county final last week, another the Down semi final, and we have plenty ref's from Dpown and Derry refereeing in Antrim.

No time? I remember when I started you had the two or three day event in Dunsilly hotel, really good prep and training with various intercounty referees on board. no fitness test given and that was you.

It has evolved since, one year there was a health check on all referees, though they havent done it again as we lost a few after that with medical issues lol

Currently we follow the same protocol as all the other Ulster counties do, every Jan we have the in house day, includes going over rules new rules videos and reviewing what the county expects, talks from CCC and the main part of the night is done by two intercounty referees that are on the assessment panels also..

We have a beep test, thats a must pass, and you cant referee championship without passing it...

You have a rules test, again you must get 85% correct minimum, and the referee committee also email the referees questions on the rules throughout the year.

And you have the Assessors,  granted we could maybe do with more of this but struggling to get referees never mind an assessor, but they are being done, I'd 2 last year

I can't see what more you'd like them to do, but I'm interested in how you can improve whats being done already, anything extra would be of great help

All looks and sounds good on paper MR2 and i would expect nothing but loyalty if i was was BT. However the reality as we all know is completely different and its been for all to see. Not getting into a ping pong with you on this you've done well personally, great to have a county senior medal if you ever actually get it, which i would say would be 50/50 but happy to stand corrected on that one, maybe that has changed in recent times also.

As MR2 has neglected to confirm or deny, I know from speaking with a ref who did a county final within the last few years you don't get a medal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 16, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Big boost for Cargin. Mick and Marty both cleared to play in Sundays final.
Surprise Surprise. Must be a few brown envelopes going about.
I wonder how the officials feel now having been undermined by the county..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 16, 2020, 05:53:18 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 05:18:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Previous CCC's have stood referees down for " Mis-representing" in reports or blatantly telling fibs but this CCC or this Refs committee no chance, toothless tigers. No time has been put into referees or real recruitment apart from the usual, get one or your play away from home etc etc.. The players in question have all been there before and walked, its the usual story so why sound so shocked, and remember we all (Club Delegates) put them in at the top, so you reap what you sow.. If it had of been an O'Ds or Eire Og, Shane oneills etc you wouldn't have stood a pups chance.... The standard of officials at present is poor bar a few to say the least and whats in there have had no time or structure put into them to do the right thing always no matter who or what. Spoke with a national ref from Antrim recently at a match who is refereeing in Derry because he wasn't asked to stay on after he retired from national panel, but can referee in county finals elsewhere? Why? Its the Gaa, the story will never change.

We've also referee's that ref in other counties, One ref the Tyrone county final last week, another the Down semi final, and we have plenty ref's from Dpown and Derry refereeing in Antrim.

No time? I remember when I started you had the two or three day event in Dunsilly hotel, really good prep and training with various intercounty referees on board. no fitness test given and that was you.

It has evolved since, one year there was a health check on all referees, though they havent done it again as we lost a few after that with medical issues lol

Currently we follow the same protocol as all the other Ulster counties do, every Jan we have the in house day, includes going over rules new rules videos and reviewing what the county expects, talks from CCC and the main part of the night is done by two intercounty referees that are on the assessment panels also..

We have a beep test, thats a must pass, and you cant referee championship without passing it...

You have a rules test, again you must get 85% correct minimum, and the referee committee also email the referees questions on the rules throughout the year.

And you have the Assessors,  granted we could maybe do with more of this but struggling to get referees never mind an assessor, but they are being done, I'd 2 last year

I can't see what more you'd like them to do, but I'm interested in how you can improve whats being done already, anything extra would be of great help

All looks and sounds good on paper MR2 and i would expect nothing but loyalty if i was was BT. However the reality as we all know is completely different and its been for all to see. Not getting into a ping pong with you on this you've done well personally, great to have a county senior medal if you ever actually get it, which i would say would be 50/50 but happy to stand corrected on that one, maybe that has changed in recent times also.

As MR2 has neglected to confirm or deny, I know from speaking with a ref who did a county final within the last few years you don't get a medal

Players who win get a medal, I wouldn't be looking for a medal, that's just me, others may want that but I don't see the point in that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 16, 2020, 07:42:51 PM
The officials weren't undermined, their incorrect decision was rectified. That's what the appeal process is there for. As for your brown envelope accusation, that sort of unfounded libellous post is legally actionable and I would hope the moderators would remove it and/or you if you don't retract it.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 16, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Big boost for Cargin. Mick and Marty both cleared to play in Sundays final.
Surprise Surprise. Must be a few brown envelopes going about.
I wonder how the officials feel now having been undermined by the county..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 16, 2020, 07:45:11 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 16, 2020, 07:42:51 PM
The officials weren't undermined, their incorrect decision was rectified. That's what the appeal process is there for. As for your brown envelope accusation, that sort of unfounded libellous post is legally actionable and I would hope the moderators would remove it and/or you if you don't retract it.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 16, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Big boost for Cargin. Mick and Marty both cleared to play in Sundays final.
Surprise Surprise. Must be a few brown envelopes going about.
I wonder how the officials feel now having been undermined by the county..
You're some craic bronco  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 16, 2020, 07:47:52 PM
Am I to assume you will not be retracting your statement?

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 16, 2020, 07:45:11 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 16, 2020, 07:42:51 PM
The officials weren't undermined, their incorrect decision was rectified. That's what the appeal process is there for. As for your brown envelope accusation, that sort of unfounded libellous post is legally actionable and I would hope the moderators would remove it and/or you if you don't retract it.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 16, 2020, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 16, 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Big boost for Cargin. Mick and Marty both cleared to play in Sundays final.
Surprise Surprise. Must be a few brown envelopes going about.
I wonder how the officials feel now having been undermined by the county..
You're some craic bronco  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 16, 2020, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 16, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Previous CCC's have stood referees down for " Mis-representing" in reports or blatantly telling fibs but this CCC or this Refs committee no chance, toothless tigers. No time has been put into referees or real recruitment apart from the usual, get one or your play away from home etc etc.. The players in question have all been there before and walked, its the usual story so why sound so shocked, and remember we all (Club Delegates) put them in at the top, so you reap what you sow.. If it had of been an O'Ds or Eire Og, Shane oneills etc you wouldn't have stood a pups chance.... The standard of officials at present is poor bar a few to say the least and whats in there have had no time or structure put into them to do the right thing always no matter who or what. Spoke with a national ref from Antrim recently at a match who is refereeing in Derry because he wasn't asked to stay on after he retired from national panel, but can referee in county finals elsewhere? Why? Its the Gaa, the story will never change.

We've also referee's that ref in other counties, One ref the Tyrone county final last week, another the Down semi final, and we have plenty ref's from Dpown and Derry refereeing in Antrim.

No time? I remember when I started you had the two or three day event in Dunsilly hotel, really good prep and training with various intercounty referees on board. no fitness test given and that was you.

It has evolved since, one year there was a health check on all referees, though they havent done it again as we lost a few after that with medical issues lol

Currently we follow the same protocol as all the other Ulster counties do, every Jan we have the in house day, includes going over rules new rules videos and reviewing what the county expects, talks from CCC and the main part of the night is done by two intercounty referees that are on the assessment panels also..

We have a beep test, thats a must pass, and you cant referee championship without passing it...

You have a rules test, again you must get 85% correct minimum, and the referee committee also email the referees questions on the rules throughout the year.

And you have the Assessors,  granted we could maybe do with more of this but struggling to get referees never mind an assessor, but they are being done, I'd 2 last year

I can't see what more you'd like them to do, but I'm interested in how you can improve whats being done already, anything extra would be of great help

So do all refs pass the beep test ?
Would it be level 7 or 8, they have to get to ?
If they dont get that level are they dropped from championship games ?
We had a ref, in IFC, who had no chance of making that level   his performance was terrible .Yet young fit and active refs were running the line at SFC matches.  Unfair on everyone involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2020, 09:14:58 PM
As I said in an earlier post the fitness test this year,  most people wouldn't have had it done due to COVID.

This was always stated every year, You must pass both fitness and rules test,  there's a level you've to get to, beep tests vary, it's run by various qualified coaching staff in Antrim, independent from the refereeing committee, I'm very fit run most day, gym most days, you'd need to be at a good enough level of fitness to get it.

At inter county it's a few steps above that as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 07:53:42 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

Before posting this, you did read my post, I've like put it up about this year being different. Or did you just think f**k it, I'll put it up anyways?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

Jesus lads comment on performance surely but do not be attacking any man about his personal appearance or fitness, I have a fair idea of who you are on about here and if you look through the County website and the SG you will see he is doing a huge amount of games in men's football, hurling and ladies football................giving people an outlet in these difficult times when you are sitting at home on your backside making cheap digs at him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2020, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

Jesus lads comment on performance surely but do not be attacking any man about his personal appearance or fitness, I have a fair idea of who you are on about here and if you look through the County website and the SG you will see he is doing a huge amount of games in men's football, hurling and ladies football................giving people an outlet in these difficult times when you are sitting at home on your backside making cheap digs at him

Agree totally with this.

Pretty easy for folk to sit behind a username and keyboard and then slate the ref and their performance but having a go at their appearance is just pathetic.

Again to echo the above im sure i know who they are on about and hes one of the hardest working refs in the county. He referees all 3 codes and whilst sometime i dont agree with his calls when im on the sideline he always does it fair and right. Like all our other refs hes out non stop and has a young family at home as well so maybe think about the sacrifices our refs make to be there.

without these folk the games will never happen. without these folk in your own clubs you wouldnt even have a home game to play!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 10:12:13 AM
There's some absolute weapons about hi.. 

I know the ref  and if you knew what the man has went through both mentally and psychically in his life then you'd should be shaking his hand rather than coming on a forum and having a pop at the man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 10:16:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 10:12:13 AM
There's some absolute weapons about hi.. 

I know the ref you mean and if you knew what the man has went through both mentally and psychically in his life then you'd should be shaking his hand rather than coming on a forum and having a pop at the man.

Completely agree PJ, however in Ciaran's defence I do think he was trying to make a point, albeit made in a very poor and clumsy way, he did say fair play etc to any ref.....................Let's think twice lads before we hit 'Post' and that is myself included
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 17, 2020, 12:22:27 PM
Can we move off the topic of referees? I think its unfair on those who put their hand up to do it.

We have loads of potentially great games coming up this weekend, Junior semi, Senior reserve final, IFC final, minor final, senior final and other fixtures. Could be some terrific games. Weather looks to be playing along too. Thats what its about surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 17, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

So players at Intermediate and junior dont put in the same effort as a senior club ? The point being made is that a ref is an integral part of the match day and needs to have a reasonable level of fitness , these days , as most clubs at senior , intermediate and junior levels are training at a much higher level than they did in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
are the finals on saturday been streamed live?

On another note i see the minor B semi finals are up now and we didnt make the cut. Glenravel didnt play us as they had a shut down due to a covid case with one of their ladies footballers. We got the points and a 1 point win.

We finished level on points with Creggan and Glenravel and lost out on points difference to Glenravel! lol you couldnt make that up. how can points difference be used to decide places when one team didnt play a fixture meaning we lose out on potential points difference?

Granted we might not of beaten them in the first place but points difference is now irrelevant in this case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

So players at Intermediate and junior dont put in the same effort as a senior club ? The point being made is that a ref is an integral part of the match day and needs to have a reasonable level of fitness , these days , as most clubs at senior , intermediate and junior levels are training at a much higher level than they did in the past.

Maybe you also didn't read my post, fitness test wasn't carried out this year, for obvious reasons, is that simple enough to understand? Or will I post it again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 02:21:36 PM
If that is the case it is absolutely ludicrous.

Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
are the finals on saturday been streamed live?

On another note i see the minor B semi finals are up now and we didnt make the cut. Glenravel didnt play us as they had a shut down due to a covid case with one of their ladies footballers. We got the points and a 1 point win.

We finished level on points with Creggan and Glenravel and lost out on points difference to Glenravel! lol you couldnt make that up. how can points difference be used to decide places when one team didnt play a fixture meaning we lose out on potential points difference?

Granted we might not of beaten them in the first place but points difference is now irrelevant in this case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 17, 2020, 12:22:27 PM
Can we move off the topic of referees? I think its unfair on those who put their hand up to do it.

We have loads of potentially great games coming up this weekend, Junior semi, Senior reserve final, IFC final, minor final, senior final and other fixtures. Could be some terrific games. Weather looks to be playing along too. Thats what its about surely

Here here.

I think Cargin will have too much for Creggan and will win by 3 or 4 but Creggan are much more offensive now so hopefully it should be a good game.

Intermediate I will pick Moneyglass but wouldn't be surprised either way. Depends on Dunly's celebrations.

Junior I think is the semi final of pearses and antrim? Antrim to win that one by 3 or 4 poonts.

Cargin look very strong in the minors so I expect them to come through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 03:38:21 PM
I'm going for

Cargin
Dunloy
Head says Ardoyne but heart wants Pearses!
Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 03:47:18 PM
The poor Pearses chairman I follow on twitter as for some reason he came up in my timeline once :(

is it not antrim against pearses?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
Choices are:

MFC: Cargin- think they have the edge over Brides
IFC: Moneyglass- Looking on Twitter I think the Dunloy celebrations will mean this game comes one week too early for them
SFC: Draw- So hard to call but if there is a winner on the day then I think the boost of the overturned suspensions can drive Erin's Own on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 03:47:18 PM
The poor Pearses chairman I follow on twitter as for some reason he came up in my timeline once :(

is it not antrim against pearses?

Is that yer man Michael O'Neill?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 04:04:59 PM
Yeah.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 03:47:18 PM
The poor Pearses chairman I follow on twitter as for some reason he came up in my timeline once :(

is it not antrim against pearses?

Is that yer man Michael O'Neill?

An absolute gent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 04:23:29 PM
I don't know him but reading his twitter feed would break your heart :(

I see he's not allowed out of hospital so the county twitter page said they're going to try and get him a live feed of the game. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2020, 04:25:02 PM
Id say sats game is going to be one game too many for some of our lads. The celebrations lasted 2 days for all the panel and 3 for a few hardy souls lol

Moneyglass will be well rested going into this game and will be rightly favourites.

Id love to see the lads win it but if truth be told no one would be too annoyed if we lost - and i don't mean that to sound disrespectful to Moneyglass but the Senior hurling title was of more importance in the club to win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:01:51 PM
Since calm down shouted at Me I took a wee break from this but looks likE no one else did !
No problem with McCann getting off as a club player did too. Feared a county stitch up only
Good luck to
Bellaghy/Cargin and St Endas / Creggan on Sunday

Is it being streamed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2020, 05:10:45 PM
Mr says yes. Must be Facebook?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2020, 05:17:24 PM
Intermediate on Saturday (4pm) being streamed live as well, and posdibly (tbc) the minor game at 1pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Sorry for any offence caused but I wasn't making any attack on any referee. I was just making a point on fitness as it had been brought up. Probably could and should have made it in a better way. The ref I was referring to had a very game in my opinion so I certainly wasn't making a dig and I know it's a thankless job which I did mention, so fair play to him and the rest.

Apologies all now let's hope we have some great football finals to enjoy this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 17, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

So players at Intermediate and junior dont put in the same effort as a senior club ? The point being made is that a ref is an integral part of the match day and needs to have a reasonable level of fitness , these days , as most clubs at senior , intermediate and junior levels are training at a much higher level than they did in the past.

Maybe you also didn't read my post, fitness test wasn't carried out this year, for obvious reasons, is that simple enough to understand? Or will I post it again?

Yes, I understood your point about the fitness test not taking place. My point was that an unfit referee should not be referring an IFC  or JHC or any other significant championship game, as it is disrespectful to both teams. The appointment of an unfit referee while other qualified refs are standing doing sideline official duties at senior games  is the bit that irritates more!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 05:29:57 PM
Neither Bellaghy or St Enda's are playing in the senior final, so you'll have difficulty streaming that nonexistent game.


Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:01:51 PM
Since calm down shouted at Me I took a wee break from this but looks likE no one else did !
No problem with McCann getting off as a club player did too. Feared a county stitch up only
Good luck to
Bellaghy/Cargin and St Endas / Creggan on Sunday

Is it being streamed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

So players at Intermediate and junior dont put in the same effort as a senior club ? The point being made is that a ref is an integral part of the match day and needs to have a reasonable level of fitness , these days , as most clubs at senior , intermediate and junior levels are training at a much higher level than they did in the past.

Maybe you also didn't read my post, fitness test wasn't carried out this year, for obvious reasons, is that simple enough to understand? Or will I post it again?

Yes, I understood your point about the fitness test not taking place. My point was that an unfit referee should not be referring an IFC  or JHC or any other significant championship game, as it is disrespectful to both teams. The appointment of an unfit referee while other qualified refs are standing doing sideline official duties at senior games  is the bit that irritates more!

Well we'll only know if he's unfit if he didn't pass the test, as the test wasn't required then you're making assumptions on his shape, meaning his unfit!??

I've ran plenty triathlons and I've seen some seriously looking unfit men come home in a sprint triathlon in just over 1.15mins . While I was coming in 15 mins later..

Qualified refs are people that have past the rules test, that actually was carried out. So again I feel you're making ill qualified judgements
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 17, 2020, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

So players at Intermediate and junior dont put in the same effort as a senior club ? The point being made is that a ref is an integral part of the match day and needs to have a reasonable level of fitness , these days , as most clubs at senior , intermediate and junior levels are training at a much higher level than they did in the past.

Maybe you also didn't read my post, fitness test wasn't carried out this year, for obvious reasons, is that simple enough to understand? Or will I post it again?

Yes, I understood your point about the fitness test not taking place. My point was that an unfit referee should not be referring an IFC  or JHC or any other significant championship game, as it is disrespectful to both teams. The appointment of an unfit referee while other qualified refs are standing doing sideline official duties at senior games  is the bit that irritates more!

Well we'll only know if he's unfit if he didn't pass the test, as the test wasn't required then you're making assumptions on his shape, meaning his unfit!??

I've ran plenty triathlons and I've seen some seriously looking unfit men come home in a sprint triathlon in just over 1.15mins . While I was coming in 15 mins later..

Qualified refs are people that have past the rules test, that actually was carried out. So again I feel you're making ill qualified judgements

Dont start on the rules test .... a very well known ref ... exclaimed that there was no square ball  rule in football for 4 years ... to me recently !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 17, 2020, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
South West Antrim is obviously where the big money is... ahem... Allegedly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 08:07:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 17, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Maybe thats why he was refereeing a junior game and not senior?

Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
I seen a ref in the junior hurling championship semi finals and no harm to that man but he certainly isn't padding any bleep test. It's a Hard gig and fair play to anyone who does it

So players at Intermediate and junior dont put in the same effort as a senior club ? The point being made is that a ref is an integral part of the match day and needs to have a reasonable level of fitness , these days , as most clubs at senior , intermediate and junior levels are training at a much higher level than they did in the past.

Maybe you also didn't read my post, fitness test wasn't carried out this year, for obvious reasons, is that simple enough to understand? Or will I post it again?

Yes, I understood your point about the fitness test not taking place. My point was that an unfit referee should not be referring an IFC  or JHC or any other significant championship game, as it is disrespectful to both teams. The appointment of an unfit referee while other qualified refs are standing doing sideline official duties at senior games  is the bit that irritates more!

Well we'll only know if he's unfit if he didn't pass the test, as the test wasn't required then you're making assumptions on his shape, meaning his unfit!??

I've ran plenty triathlons and I've seen some seriously looking unfit men come home in a sprint triathlon in just over 1.15mins . While I was coming in 15 mins later..

Qualified refs are people that have past the rules test, that actually was carried out. So again I feel you're making ill qualified judgements

Dont start on the rules test .... a very well known ref ... exclaimed that there was no square ball  rule in football for 4 years ... to me recently !

You can get the odd question wrong, only 85% pass rate, though it has changed slightly but there's still a square ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 08:21:23 PM
Knock the ref bashing on the head lads. It's out of order.

On the topic of outside managers, Cargin have done it for years and have won a SFC. Creggan are in the final and they do it also, neither club seems to dwindling in number and joining with other clubs. So maybe it's working.

The obsession with money being spent is embarrassing. Dunloy are possibly paying Eoin McNicholl a few quid for his services, SHC winners and IFC finalists. Are they wrong in getting an expert in to train them? IMO it's better paying a coach or manager to help than throwing into a social club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 08:53:05 PM
Does it work or would success come to that club if they just used the clubman who puts his name forward?

We've had different degrees of success over the years with outside managers, but both managers that played for us, managed to get us to Croke Park and the other (culbert) to an Ulster final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 08:56:41 PM
I agree with this. It shouldn't be permitted, it goes against the whole ethos of the GAA in my opinion. You should only be able to take ,or play for, your own club.

Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 08:47:18 PM
If you want a better full back is it ok to pay one to play for you?

Of course it is wrong. It is against the rules and ethos of the association.

It's just an accepted breach of the rules. And indeed one that is becoming expected and even demanded in some clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 08:59:44 PM
It undoubtedly does work in some cases. There's plenty of evidence for it. Sometimes an outsider can unite everyone in a way a clubman can't.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 08:53:05 PM
Does it work or would success come to that club if they just used the clubman who puts his name forward?

We've had different degrees of success over the years with outside managers, but both managers that played for us, managed to get us to Croke Park and the other (culbert) to an Ulster final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 09:01:21 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 08:56:41 PM
I agree with this. It shouldn't be permitted, it goes against the whole ethos of the GAA in my opinion. You should only be able to take ,or play for, your own club.

Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 08:47:18 PM
If you want a better full back is it ok to pay one to play for you?

Of course it is wrong. It is against the rules and ethos of the association.

It's just an accepted breach of the rules. And indeed one that is becoming expected and even demanded in some clubs.

So if a player moves to Dublin he should just stop? Or let's say there's a fall out, and no going back, we'd rather he just fucks off and plays ping pong...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 08:47:18 PM
If you want a better full back is it ok to pay one to play for you?

Of course it is wrong. It is against the rules and ethos of the association.

It's just an accepted breach of the rules. And indeed one that is becoming expected and even demanded in some clubs.

It's happened in the past, wether we like it or not, it's as much part of the game as bad refs!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 17, 2020, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 17, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Sorry for any offence caused but I wasn't making any attack on any referee. I was just making a point on fitness as it had been brought up. Probably could and should have made it in a better way. The ref I was referring to had a very game in my opinion so I certainly wasn't making a dig and I know it's a thankless job which I did mention, so fair play to him and the rest.

Apologies all now let's hope we have some great football finals to enjoy this weekend

Well said Ciaran as I said earlier I think your comments were clumsy as opposed to malicious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 09:15:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 09:06:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 08:47:18 PM
If you want a better full back is it ok to pay one to play for you?

Of course it is wrong. It is against the rules and ethos of the association.

It's just an accepted breach of the rules. And indeed one that is becoming expected and even demanded in some clubs.

It's happened in the past, wether we like it or not, it's as much part of the game as bad refs!!!
Not saying it hasn't but it's certainly becoming more prevalent and the history of it happening is irrelevant to the right/wrong debate.

Alcohol wasn't  part of the GAA ethos but drinks companies sponsored our hurling championship for years.  Gambling wasn't part yet we see bookies sponsor county teams in the past.

Times are moving on, everything is changing and wether you agree with it or not, it's here to stay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

99% percent?

So in Antrim let's say we have 30 clubs, how many are paying?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 17, 2020, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

You must dislike every senior and intermediate club in Antrim because at some stage they have all done it. You'll soon need therapy  8) :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 10:02:34 PM
Aghagallon
Ahoghill
Aldergrove
Cargin
St Brigid's
Creggan
St Galls
Rossa
St Johns
St Endas
Sarsfields
St Paul's
Ballymena
Tir Na Og
Glenravel
Glenavy
Dunloy
Moneyglass
PG1
St Teresas


Have I missed any Div1 or 2 teams there? Try and fill in the blanks and outside managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

99% percent?

So in Antrim let's say we have 30 clubs, how many are paying?
I think he's talking about people involved in clubs who aren't paid rather than clubs who don't pay.
count juvenile management Lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 10:02:34 PM
Aghagallon
Ahoghill
Aldergrove
Cargin
St Brigid's
Creggan
St Galls
Rossa
St Johns
St Endas
Sarsfields
St Paul's
Ballymena
Tir Na Og
Glenravel
Glenavy
Dunloy
Moneyglass
PG1
St Teresas


Have I missed any Div1 or 2 teams there? Try and fill in the blanks and outside managers
st Teresa's and St. John's ? Don't think so
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

99% percent?

So in Antrim let's say we have 30 clubs, how many are paying?
I think he's talking about people involved in clubs who aren't paid rather than clubs who don't pay.

Ah, I was thinking managers, as this was the topic in question, right yes no doubt 99% are doing things for nothing, but as for managers, that's silly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
This is absolutely spot on. I'd love someone to out a stop to it once and for all but can't see it happening.

Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 09:23:02 PM
Also irrelevant. Look, I'm not saying it will go away but you asked is it wrong. Yes, it is. Why? Because it is a dishonest act and an intentional breach of the rules by a club in order to gain an advantage. For me, that's the definition of cheating.

But it's an accepted cheating because clubs are inherently insular and selfish. As long as our wee club in our wee parish is benefiting we don't really care. And sure they've no way of catching us so we can fill our boots.

That's the reality and it looks like it is here to stay.

However, on the simple question- is it right or wrong? It's quite obviously wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 11:19:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

99% percent?

So in Antrim let's say we have 30 clubs, how many are paying?
I think he's talking about people involved in clubs who aren't paid rather than clubs who don't pay.
count juvenile management Lads

Then if I not 1% are being paid, that's not a bad stat in fairness. I thought it would be higher the way you were going on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 18, 2020, 08:56:53 AM
It's really going over ground isn't it, sometimes clubs just can't get someone from inside to do the job, or equally someone from inside who is up to the job and willing. In that case they have to go outside and unfortunately it's gonna cost money sometimes. Though in fairness I do k ow a few fellas taking teams and are doing it for genuine expenses although I accept they are few and far between
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 18, 2020, 08:56:53 AM
It's really going over ground isn't it, sometimes clubs just can't get someone from inside to do the job, or equally someone from inside who is up to the job and willing. In that case they have to go outside and unfortunately it's gonna cost money sometimes. Though in fairness I do k ow a few fellas taking teams and are doing it for genuine expenses although I accept they are few and far between

Problem being that it then becomes a vicious cycle, once you go for the 'perceived' better outsider it will then make the job of finding an internal suitable club member that bit more difficult. Think of the amount of these guys across Ulster, making serious serious money in some cases and for what?
You telling me that Cargin couldnt get someone from within their own club to run a team, probably most talented team in the county past 5 odd years and yet they need two mercenaries to get them over the line? Pure madness

You will soon end up in the position that Bellaghy found themselves in with DC and he was one of their own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 18, 2020, 10:25:29 AM
there are a lot of nuances at work here.  Once a talented manager is 'rewarded' for managing an outside team it will be rare that he will want to get off that gravy train to manage his own club for nought.  Some men don't want to take their own clubs as they are unrewarded that season or for the flak that comes their way and the irreparable damage to some relationships caused by team selection and treatment. 

All that aside, what is the answer? there are always loopholes.  eg You can only manage for the team you were first a registered member of? that draconian measure would then mean people who moved away from home could never manage a team and would never work in practice.

The horse has already bolted so perhaps going forward we should concentrate on the regulation, standards and control of this issue and manage these mercenaries going forward so that it is more transparent and quality is assured. Some sort of benefit in kind back to the originate club / county?

Either we do something collectively or we just moan about the issue and continue on as we are

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2020, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2020, 10:02:34 PM
Aghagallon
Ahoghill
Aldergrove
Cargin
St Brigid's
Creggan
St Galls
Rossa
St Johns
St Endas
Sarsfields
St Paul's
Ballymena
Tir Na Og
Glenravel
Glenavy
Dunloy
Moneyglass
PG1
St Teresas


Have I missed any Div1 or 2 teams there? Try and fill in the blanks and outside managers

you can remove us from anything to do with being paid as the management are 4 ex players and they have no strength and conditioning coaches either. Everyone is doing it for nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 18, 2020, 10:42:06 AM
That's the way it should be, good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 18, 2020, 01:15:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2020, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

99% percent?

So in Antrim let's say we have 30 clubs, how many are paying?
I think he's talking about people involved in clubs who aren't paid rather than clubs who don't pay.
Some facts for most clubs

We need new kit for Camogs.. Do a wine night fundraiser
U10s need footballs.. Organise a raffle
U16 hurlers need sliotars.. Organise a car wash
U14s away to Feile...Ask local businesses for donations
Senior Manager is paid... Ssshhhhhhhh ffs do not let on
Piss on the volunteers

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 18, 2020, 02:23:37 PM
Plenty of football entertainment for facebook fans this weekend. MFC & IFC on facebook tomorrow and the SFC final on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2020, 02:45:54 PM
Are st Brigid's much good at minor level? Cargin look like strong favourites though I don't know much about the age group.

Great again by Antrim board to get all these streamed - and they're free at that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 18, 2020, 02:57:28 PM
Cargin strong favourites for the minor. Only 4 NB players still in minor from last years final, i think the majority of Cargin are. Still, could be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2020, 03:13:59 PM
got a ticket for our game tomorrow. looking forward to it compared to last weekend!

Last weekend i couldn't settle for the fear of losing to Loughgiel lol so this weekend the expectation isnt as high so i can try and enjoy it :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City watcher on September 18, 2020, 04:47:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 17, 2020, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

You must dislike every senior and intermediate club in Antrim because at some stage they have all done it. You'll soon need therapy  8) :o
I can't say for certain that it hasn't happened but a paid Rossa manager doesn't come to mind.

But a paid strength and conditioning coach does come to mind hs ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2020, 08:11:19 PM
Fair play to the Antrim board or Sean Kelly if it is him streaming the Pearse's match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2020, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2020, 08:11:19 PM
Fair play to the Antrim board or Sean Kelly if it is him streaming the Pearse's match.

Great stuff for Mick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Well maybe if you'd have stepped in and offered you're services then we'd have a unbiased commentary  ;)


Fair play to the lads and giving us the game.

On the game, so many poor decisions and bad handling.. some going at Cargin now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 19, 2020, 02:24:12 PM
Our pitch is in pristine condition for tomorrows holding of county football final. RTE have a scaffolding going up today as well with Marty Morrissey expected to be  providing live commentary to the nation. Should be a cracking final.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 19, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 19, 2020, 02:24:12 PM
Our pitch is in pristine condition for tomorrows holding of county football final. RTE have a scaffolding going up today as well with Marty Morrissey expected to be  providing live commentary to the nation. Should be a cracking final.

Reason to mute then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 19, 2020, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

There were two of us, each asked to concentrate on the club we  knew best. Neutrality in commentators is vastly overrated!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City watcher on September 19, 2020, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 18, 2020, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: City watcher on September 18, 2020, 04:47:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2020, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 17, 2020, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 17, 2020, 06:16:20 PM
There are indeed. Not sure why that has you so riled up that you need to portray it as a Bellaghy/Cargin v St Enda's/Creggan final.

Most clubs have someone involved from outside these days in some capacity. Personally I wouldn't be in favour of that situation but it is what it is. Your facetious comments however indicate a rather unseemly jealousy of both teams reaching the final. Which is sad to see.
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Are there members not heavily involved IN the final bronco ?
unseemly jealousy ! U sound like A st brigids chap ! Just don't like paid coaches, and clubs who pay them,  when 99 percent do it for Free  . Simple to understand

You must dislike every senior and intermediate club in Antrim because at some stage they have all done it. You'll soon need therapy  8) :o
I can't say for certain that it hasn't happened but a paid Rossa manager doesn't come to mind.

But a paid strength and conditioning coach does come to mind hs ;)
Rossa employ a S&C coach? That surprises me!

As far as I'm aware yes they did. For both senior hurling and football teams this year.. are you not a Rossa man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Agreed. I generally find Brendan quite positive and even-handed but that was shockingly biased from him today. The commentary wasn't helped by them talking over each other either.

Still it's a great service and these are small quibbles with an otherwise excellent initiative from Antrim. Thanks to all involved.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Agreed. I generally find Brendan quite positive and even-handed but that was shockingly biased from him today. The commentary wasn't helped by them talking over each other either.

Still it's a great service and these are small quibbles with an otherwise excellent initiative from Antrim. Thanks to all involved.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Just turn it off, some bellends on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 19, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
St Brides jusT can't get over the line in the minor with the final defeats mounting - Well done Cargin They must be doing serious work at Juveniles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:50:52 PM
Take your own advice and if you don't like my comments on the game, ignore them. Instead of calling people bellends.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Agreed. I generally find Brendan quite positive and even-handed but that was shockingly biased from him today. The commentary wasn't helped by them talking over each other either.

Still it's a great service and these are small quibbles with an otherwise excellent initiative from Antrim. Thanks to all involved.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Just turn it off, some bellends on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
They didn't look to have the forwards. A few times they were in good positions and turned down a shot. Scoreline flattered them a bit I thought.

Scant consolation but three finals in a row is an acheivement in itself. The challenge is to get some of these boys to stay on right through to senior now.


Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 19, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
St Brides jusT can't get over the line in the minor with the final defeats mounting - Well done Cargin They must be doing serious work at Juveniles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 19, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
They didn't look to have the forwards. A few times they were in good positions and turned down a shot. Scoreline flattered them a bit I thought.

Scant consolation but three finals in a row is an acheivement in itself. The challenge is to get some of these boys to stay on right through to senior now.


Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 19, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
St Brides jusT can't get over the line in the minor with the final defeats mounting - Well done Cargin They must be doing serious work at Juveniles
St Brigids seem to choke in finals. 3 minor on the bounce and haven't played really well in these.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2020, 07:48:22 PM
They have won a couple of u21s have they not though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 19, 2020, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Agreed. I generally find Brendan quite positive and even-handed but that was shockingly biased from him today. The commentary wasn't helped by them talking over each other either.

Still it's a great service and these are small quibbles with an otherwise excellent initiative from Antrim. Thanks to all involved.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

I think I was fair, acknowledging the great play from Cargin but without hiding that I wanted our lads to win. What do you expect?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 19, 2020, 08:16:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 19, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
St Brides jusT can't get over the line in the minor with the final defeats mounting - Well done Cargin They must be doing serious work at Juveniles

Going to say this again for the craic. St Brides is a primary school. St Brigids is a GAA club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 08:52:22 PM
I have absolutely no problem with you wanting them to win but there were a few times I felt it crossed into blatantly misrepresenting what was happening on the pitch. Just my thoughts, please don't take them to heart. I know many people will not share my views. And as I said previously,thanks for providing your services,it is appreciated regardless of my views outlined above.


Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 19, 2020, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Agreed. I generally find Brendan quite positive and even-handed but that was shockingly biased from him today. The commentary wasn't helped by them talking over each other either.

Still it's a great service and these are small quibbles with an otherwise excellent initiative from Antrim. Thanks to all involved.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

I think I was fair, acknowledging the great play from Cargin but without hiding that I wanted our lads to win. What do you expect?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Well maybe if you'd have stepped in and offered you're services then we'd have a unbiased commentary  ;)


Fair play to the lads and giving us the game.

On the game, so many poor decisions and bad handling.. some going at Cargin now

"Poor decisions" are you digging out one of your colleagues??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 19, 2020, 10:12:22 PM
A good open minor final.  Congratulations to Cargin who were able to pick off their scores a little bit more efficiently although they were struggling in the past fifteen minutes.  St Brigid's must be kicking themselves- hit the crossbar, snatched at a good chance and ref turned down a score when the umpires couldn't agree.  Fair play to the lads commentating, calling it as they saw it, not hiding their true colours and giving a bit of background on the players which was good for the neutral. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Well maybe if you'd have stepped in and offered you're services then we'd have a unbiased commentary  ;)


Fair play to the lads and giving us the game.

On the game, so many poor decisions and bad handling.. some going at Cargin now

"Poor decisions" are you digging out one of your colleagues??

Eh?

Poor decisions by the players !!

I didn't mention the ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Well maybe if you'd have stepped in and offered you're services then we'd have a unbiased commentary  ;)

Fair play to the lads and giving us the game.

On the game, so many poor decisions and bad handling.. some going at Cargin now

"Poor decisions" are you digging out one of your colleagues??

Eh?

Poor decisions by the players !!

I didn't mention the ref

Apologies MR2, I was asking the question not making an accusation.

On that point do you think St Brigids were denied a stonewall penalty?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 19, 2020, 11:32:33 PM
Well done Brendan  a sound and fair analysis...cant be easy when your club is involved. Getting to within a point of an excellent Cargin team is no mean feat in itself. Keep up the good work there in South Belfast its only a matter if time until that work pays off at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2020, 12:25:18 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Well maybe if you'd have stepped in and offered you're services then we'd have a unbiased commentary  ;)

Fair play to the lads and giving us the game.

On the game, so many poor decisions and bad handling.. some going at Cargin now

"Poor decisions" are you digging out one of your colleagues??

Eh?

Poor decisions by the players !!

I didn't mention the ref

Apologies MR2, I was asking the question not making an accusation.

On that point do you think St Brigids were denied a stonewall penalty?

I only watched last ten minutes of first half and the second half, I didn't see penalty incident.

I seen plenty of St Brigids missing good opportunities to equalise, very wasteful when composure was needed. Lost a minor final myself, never forget a minute of that match, 32 years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 20, 2020, 12:35:10 AM
Can sympathise Milltown
Lost one 31 years ago
12 10
Still have sleepless nights about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 20, 2020, 08:13:26 AM
Yesterday's minor final wasnt the greatest match but some good talent on show for the future.  Conditions must have been more difficult than they appeared as shooting from both teams was poor with st brigids in particular missing a number, particularly scorable free kicks.  That will be the thing that they will run.
Watched a couple of the so called controversial moments. Due to the angle & height of the brigids free kick,  how any commentators or supporters in the ground can confidently call that over??  Penalty looks like theatrics at first point of shoulder contact. Soccer reaction.

Sympathise with brendan in that it cant be easy commentating on your club and try to remain neutral but, for instance, shouting 'go on brigids' when they were on the attack sounded a bit like fan zone stuff 😀    if seamus had been from cargin it could have descended into farce lol

St brigids will be disappointed with the wide count, leaving themselves with a lot to do in the last 10 mins whereas cargin had managed to keep chipping away at scores despite a lot of handling errors.    3 years in finals should be seen as a huge positive for brigids  - hopefully they can get those lads into the senior ranks.  Cargin will be satisfied there are a few lads there who look ready for the next step and have gained the confidence that comes with winning championships
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2020, 12:25:18 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 19, 2020, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 19, 2020, 02:17:50 PM
The commentary in the minor game is so anti Cargin. Congratulations Cargin

Well maybe if you'd have stepped in and offered you're services then we'd have a unbiased commentary  ;)

Fair play to the lads and giving us the game.

On the game, so many poor decisions and bad handling.. some going at Cargin now

"Poor decisions" are you digging out one of your colleagues??

Eh?

Poor decisions by the players !!

I didn't mention the ref

Apologies MR2, I was asking the question not making an accusation.

On that point do you think St Brigids were denied a stonewall penalty?

I only watched last ten minutes of first half and the second half, I didn't see penalty incident.

I seen plenty of St Brigids missing good opportunities to equalise, very wasteful when composure was needed. Lost a minor final myself, never forget a minute of that match, 32 years ago.

Wasn't fishing just wanted your honest and unbiased opinion, i was there as a neutral may I add and I think the ref got the pen 100% right, was a really well timed shoulder, the St Brigids player possibly guilty of being loose in possession.

Have to say some of the Cargin supporters where a little less than kind to the officials, really seems when they get together pack mentality kicks in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2020, 09:18:21 AM
Weekend feast of Antrim club football reaches it climax today. If anything the meeting of these two is the biggest yet for several reasons. Creggan have been knocking in the door for a good few years now with teams and managers that have c'ship winning expectations, but with no breakthrough. Should they fail to win today that heartache continues and winning the Antrim championship is going to get tougher in the coming years (as expected) teams start to level off. Cargin are the reigning champs, with all the pedigree and tradition. They love nothing better than keeping their closest rivals in the shade, with bragging rights in the parish secure for another year. Its what makes our association so great - the pride of the parish - and no other sport can get close to the emotions that run high.

Every final is important, but I am feeling that this is a particilarly important one for the two clubs involved today. O Kelly Park is looking absolutely stunning, I walked it yesterday, and the conditions will be perfect. May the best team win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2020, 09:54:38 AM
Big win for Creggan in the reserves and cargin in the minor so both going for the double.

I still think cargin will have too much but it would be nice to see a different winner for a change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2020, 11:19:42 AM
Yeah Creggan beat us handy enough yesterday, we'd a man sent off early on and that was that.

The game descended into a farce, fights breaking out everywhere, embarrassing tbh..

Anyways on to today's game, obviously anything will be better that their last final meeting and I think it will (fingers crossed)

Cargin big favourites and having seen Cargin labour over a few games they are battle harden, they manage to always find a purple patch and register a goal and a few points, unanswered, this is the downfall for some teams, if Creggan can stem that period they have a chance. If not Cargin will see it out 2/3 points and do what we done for years, good game management for the last 10 minutes.

On the other hand Creggan have impressed me this year, the final of two years ago is gone and they've been building with a new manager (of sorts) so if they press Cargin higher up the pitch, put pressure on  the kick outs and take their opportunities they have a chance, should they defend the game and allow Cargin more possession then they'll get beat again.

Yes show Cargin respect but don't walk off the field thinking you didn't go at them, you just have to look at the two hurling semis, that's the attitude you need.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:41:42 AM
I think Cargin have better players and obviously more experience but something I can't really explain is telling me Creggan might nick this by a point or two. Probably the desire to make amends for the manner they went about it last time will be driving them on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2020, 11:55:55 AM
Perfectly set up for a cliff hanger. Lets wait and see if ot turns out to be the showpiece of the year, or a win at all costs ugly spectacle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on September 20, 2020, 01:02:38 PM
I thought Brendan had a great game on the mic yesterday. Well researched.. apart from the three finals in a row comment.

St Galls played Dunloy in the 2018 final?

St Brigids were in the minor final in 2015, 2019 and this year.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 20, 2020, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 20, 2020, 01:02:38 PM
I thought Brendan had a great game on the mic yesterday. Well researched.. apart from the three finals in a row comment.

St Galls played Dunloy in the 2018 final?

St Brigids were in the minor final in 2015, 2019 and this year.

Yeah got that wrong sorry, it was a semi final defeat in 2018
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 01:15:41 PM
You're right, I was at that game and I made the same mistake in fairness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 20, 2020, 04:40:54 PM
Fair play to the two teams. Great match, some drama - as we have come to expect now! Creggan brought a lot to that match and deserve great credit. Mick McCann a cool cool head. Congratulations to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2020, 05:03:46 PM
Great game and unfortunately someone has to lose, the difference is being able to close it out, Cargin did, they have that experience to see it out.

The standard was a thousand times better that the last final between these two last time out..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 20, 2020, 05:09:58 PM
Hats off to both teams, great game of football and everything that's good with football, some great scores great tackling and some unbelievable fielding. Contrast to the derry game between slaughneil and glen, watched the first half here and such a negative game both teams dropping everyone behind the ball and every kick out short and slow build up play. The Antrim championship has been great, been refreshing seeing attacking football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2020, 06:26:00 PM
A cliffhanger of a game, credit to both teams for going out to win instead of trying not to lose. Creggan died with both boots on, never once yielding an inch in the physical exchanges and will be looking at the video replays to check out the ifs and bits that on another day would have seen them cross the winning line.

To have it in sight and not claim the prize will stay with them over the winter, and particularly the best player on the pitch Ruairi Mc Cann, the impressive Kevin Rice, Conor Mc Cann and Jamie Mc Cann who also caught the eye from a county perspective.

But cometh the moment cometh the man  and arguably Cargins greatest ever player stood up when it mattered most, the great Ciaran Close, the best club forward in Antrim for the last 15 years.

County legend Justin Crozier never put a foot wrong all day and Kobo the great got his moment in the sun with two raiders points to put the icing on the cake, which he will remember for manys a year when the dust settles on an illustrious football career. Marty Kane was coolness personified when Cargin really needed a leader, winning the dirty ball every time, and James Laverty was solid throughout and played a huge part in Cargins victory.

From a neutrals perspective it was great to see two heavyweights slogging it out across parish boundaries, and yet retain the sportsmanship at the end that is the foundation of our games.

Its over, Cargin are off once again with the Mc Namee, three in a row now to firmly cement their place at the top of the table. Licking their sores and looking for a place at that table are three or four  clubs who will be thinking that they arnt too far away. Thats for another day.

Well done Cargin. To the victor the spoils. What a great championship it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2020, 07:17:34 PM
Bs close is excellent but maybe not quite as good as you make him out there. Definitely fantastic to bring off the bench.

Fair play to cargin. Had hoped Creggan might do it but just that wee bit more experience told I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2020, 08:26:08 PM
All about opinions I suppose, but Kieran Close would be top of my pile by a distance if youre looking at the man who delivered time after time for Cargin, his greatest strength was to link up with others and his unselfishness. It was never all about him ( like the true greats like Gooch Cooper. It was about winning his own ball and getting the head up to provide killer passes to others. Close and Michael Magill were unstoppable in their pomp, and still doing it today at 37 coming 38 says it all. Changed the game in Cargins favour the minute he stepped on the pitch. IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2020, 08:30:46 PM
Big factor last year too. On the bench for the impact reason I suspect.

St galls have quite a few who would probably lay claim to what you say but anyway I don't want to take away from him as he's definitely a great wee player too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2020, 08:40:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2020, 08:26:08 PM
All about opinions I suppose, but Kieran Close would be top of my pile by a distance if youre looking at the man who delivered time after time for Cargin, his greatest strength was to link up with others and his unselfishness. It was never all about him ( like the true greats like Gooch Cooper. It was about winning his own ball and getting the head up to provide killer passes to others. Close and Michael Magill were unstoppable in their pomp, and still doing it today at 37 coming 38 says it all. Changed the game in Cargins favour the minute he stepped on the pitch. IMO.

In their pomp we were playing in Croke Park  ;)

But yes he was vital today and last year too, great to have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:41:22 PM
I thought he was poor. There was a blatant foul on a Cargin player at the end of normal time which he ignored, then the ball went up the other end and he gave a very soft free to Creggan. Conversely in extra time he did the opposite, giving Cargin a handy one and not giving Creggan one.

These were game changing decisions.

Also Creggan seemed to be getting away with a lot of persistent fouling with no cards being shown.

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:42:51 PM
Totally agree with this. Antrim had been a breath of fresh air this year compared to a free Derry games I've watched.


Quote from: themac_23 on September 20, 2020, 05:09:58 PM
Hats off to both teams, great game of football and everything that's good with football, some great scores great tackling and some unbelievable fielding. Contrast to the derry game between slaughneil and glen, watched the first half here and such a negative game both teams dropping everyone behind the ball and every kick out short and slow build up play. The Antrim championship has been great, been refreshing seeing attacking football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
How do you know he got it right? Umpire gave it a wide, the commentators were quite adamant it was wide too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 07:39:07 AM
Bronco was standing right behind it, again how he got a ticket for the final, being a neutral is beyond me. Like whom out the club would give away a ticket for that match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 21, 2020, 09:33:40 AM
Obviously disappointed today after yesterday. The lads were so close, just couldn't get enough on the board to create a winning position on Cargin. Was in the brother in laws last night and the banter was good. Unfortunately for us when Cargin got the run on us they had the ability to take hold of the game. Easily the best final in years, brilliant football in a splendid surface. I think Cargins bench won it, fresh players and good players, we hadn't the same depth. It really showed in extra time. Our lads can hold their heads high, what more could they give in comparison to two years ago.  By god I like to think their is a championship in them, but two final defeats in three years can break the best of them.
The ref was definitely poor, for both teams. The point being discussed, I hadn't a view to comment. The foul on Kane at the end was a real bottler from Toland, thank god😁. There was a spell in the game where u couldn't buy a foul, he let every tackle go. Congratulations to Cargin on getting three in a row. The brother in law said he thought they were finished 3 years ago, but gives great credit to Cassidy and Devlin for giving them new impetus by introducing as 6/7 new players into the team.
Finally it has been a great season of sport in football and hurling in such difficult times. A shout out to the CB for getting Jerome Quinn on board to stream the games, but initiative for all Antrim gaels. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2020, 09:45:02 AM
Definitely a few years ago you would have thought Cargin were aging and weren't going to continue their dominance especially as it had been a while since underage success but that has changed a lot. Shivers is a good one and there are quite a few younger players in there too who are decent.(Bradley, Gribben, McShane) The two minor wins will stand them in good stead too. They will lose KOBO, McCann(maybe x 2), Close, Crozier in the next 3 or 4 years but as evidenced yesterday there's a bit of life in them yet.

While I thought the Kane one was a free at the end I also though there was one the other end so at least they cancelled each other out. In terms of the perceived wide the commentators were adamant it was over but from what I saw I thought it was over and I thought one umpire gave it as over too did he not? I don't think the referee gave one team any more than the other to be honest so don't think the ref beat anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
I was there and had a perfect view of it, definitely a point.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
How do you know he got it right? Umpire gave it a wide, the commentators were quite adamant it was wide too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
You seem to be making a habit of snide comments. I suppose we should be grateful you aren't calling people bellends....



Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 07:39:07 AM
Bronco was standing right behind it, again how he got a ticket for the final, being a neutral is beyond me. Like whom out the club would give away a ticket for that match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2020, 10:03:04 AM
Clinking final, best in years.  Football in the county as a whole has got complely reignited after the lengthy domination by St Galls and Cargin who by the look of things will be at the top table for a while!

DC has won 3 on the trot, and all three have been exceptionally close games that could all have gone either way. Good luck or good management, it takes a bot of both. The punters paying for his services wont be complaining how they were won.

Creggan looked totally shattered walking off the pitch, the Mc Nulty brothers Gerard and Thomas got their troops emptying the tank and thats all you can ask. When you consider Gerard has been at Creggan for 3 years and has never asked or received a penny you have to pay tribute to that level of committment.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 10:07:15 AM
It was a great game,both teams gave everything. Creggan can take a bit of heart that they tried to go out and win it this time unlike the cautious approach 2 years ago. Ultimately as someone mentioned Cargin's deeper squad was maybe the difference. They had a bit more quality on the bench. It's been a great year for games in Antrim both football and hurling, long may it continue.

Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2020, 10:03:04 AM
Clinking final, best in years.  Football in the county as a whole has got complely reignited after the lengthy domination by St Galls and Cargin who by the look of things will be at the top table for a while!

DC has won 3 on the trot, and all three have been exceptionally close games that could all have gone either way. Good luck or good management, it takes a bot of both. The punters paying for his services wont be complaining how they were won.

Creggan looked totally shattered walking off the pitch, the Mc Nulty brothers Gerard and Thomas got their troops emptying the tank and thats all you can ask. When you consider Gerard has been at Creggan for 3 years and has never asked or received a penny you have to pay tribute to that level of committment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 21, 2020, 11:13:19 AM
Will Cargin be happy enough with no Ulster Championship this year?  Have they ever won a game in it? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 11:26:12 AM
I've said previously it's ridiculous that there is no provincial and all Ireland club this year. It should have been prioritised over inter-county.

Having said that I don't think Cargin would be in contention to win it and the three in a row is a magnificent acheivement in itself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 11:28:50 AM
CJ in his heyday better than Close for me,but to still be deciding championship finals at Kieran's age is no mean feat. Took his goal well ,although the less said about his subsequent point the better!

Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2020, 08:26:08 PM
All about opinions I suppose, but Kieran Close would be top of my pile by a distance if youre looking at the man who delivered time after time for Cargin, his greatest strength was to link up with others and his unselfishness. It was never all about him ( like the true greats like Gooch Cooper. It was about winning his own ball and getting the head up to provide killer passes to others. Close and Michael Magill were unstoppable in their pomp, and still doing it today at 37 coming 38 says it all. Changed the game in Cargins favour the minute he stepped on the pitch. IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2020, 11:30:32 AM
He's had a lot of injuries over the years. The bench thing works very well for him(and for Cargin obviously).

Yeah agreed on CJ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 21, 2020, 11:13:19 AM
Will Cargin be happy enough with no Ulster Championship this year?  Have they ever won a game in it?

I don't know why there is a issue with competing in Ulster, they did eventually run the Donegal champions close the year they won it, after having a nightmare first half.

Cassidy I thought would have been that magic touch needed and Brennan before him, with that wealth of experience.. I year gone and it may not happen .

Cargin have won a match in Ulster and the next game was close (I think) but after yesterdays game they have the mental strength needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2020, 11:35:58 AM
A good final to watch and again covered well by JQ a great service to the county.

The game itself, really poor standard of refereeing again. Didn't make the big calls at the end of the game when the game could have gone either way.

Creggan are getting a bit like PG1 at this stage, lots of decent nice footballers plenty of talent, but when heat comes on they are lacking that killer instinct that wins big games.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 21, 2020, 12:00:36 PM
What club is Jerome Quinn affiliated with in Antrim?  I know he is an Omagh man originally but not sure if he still resides there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2020, 12:02:57 PM
I thought he was more the down side of belfast. I know he is associated with east belfast gaels. I had thought Bredagh too but not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2020, 11:35:58 AM
A good final to watch and again covered well by JQ a great service to the county.

The game itself, really poor standard of refereeing again. Didn't make the big calls at the end of the game when the game could have gone either way.

Creggan are getting a bit like PG1 at this stage, lots of decent nice footballers plenty of talent, but when heat comes on they are lacking that killer instinct that wins big games.

A bit harsh to say the standard was really poor on two calls that would have effectively cancelled each other out and had no bearing on the game.

The game was good because of the standard of the refereeing also, the players knew what to expect and as for big calls he could have given a wide and could have as easily given a point.. No players getting sent off between two clubs in the one parish is down to controlling the game also. Nipping things in the bud early, that was done.

In no way am I just defending ref's here, not the case, these games can be very hard to ref, never mind a league encounter but a county final between these two is as big as, us v Cargin or Dunloy v Loughgiel in terms of each team fears losing more than winning, if that makes sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2020, 12:46:17 PM
CJ possibly a bit more gifted alright, but KC has been doing it year in year out for 16 years at least. As out and out traditional corner forwards go, KC was the type of player Id want kids to see. Movement off the ball, proper decision making, great eye for a score, totally unselfish, and streetwise as they go. I dont see many that tick all these boxes, not even on the national stage.

You pay money to watch these qualities, like Micks fetches, Niblocks ball winning, Sean Kelly controlling a game. The youngest of these are 35 now, where are the next batch coming from that are going to replace this kind of quality?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2020, 12:59:08 PM
Just think of the team the Antrim masters will have in a few years!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2020, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2020, 12:46:17 PM
CJ possibly a bit more gifted alright, but KC has been doing it year in year out for 16 years at least. As out and out traditional corner forwards go, KC was the type of player Id want kids to see. Movement off the ball, proper decision making, great eye for a score, totally unselfish, and streetwise as they go. I dont see many that tick all these boxes, not even on the national stage.

You pay money to watch these qualities, like Micks fetches, Niblocks ball winning, Sean Kelly controlling a game. The youngest of these are 35 now, where are the next batch coming from that are going to replace this kind of quality?

To be fair shivers looks to be real quality. I thought Kevin small would be that type of player but doesn't quite seem to be as outstanding as underage. (Probably Quinn too).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
Totally agree on him being the type of player you want to see, there's a very old-school corner forward quality he has which is thankfully a million miles from the muscle-bound workhorses you often see these days. Niblock is another forward I really enjoy watching. Great hands and intelligent at laying ball off to a runner.



Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2020, 12:46:17 PM
CJ possibly a bit more gifted alright, but KC has been doing it year in year out for 16 years at least. As out and out traditional corner forwards go, KC was the type of player Id want kids to see. Movement off the ball, proper decision making, great eye for a score, totally unselfish, and streetwise as they go. I dont see many that tick all these boxes, not even on the national stage.

You pay money to watch these qualities, like Micks fetches, Niblocks ball winning, Sean Kelly controlling a game. The youngest of these are 35 now, where are the next batch coming from that are going to replace this kind of quality?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 21, 2020, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: 1884 on September 21, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
What a championship we have had this year. SFC and IFC. Hurling championships were also as good as they've ever been. Perhaps the county board/GAA can learn from this. So many county championships have been a major success this year. Well done to all involved! Wasn't an easy year.

Leagues in Antrim?? Surely there is no point in the leagues and no appetite among players/clubs to continue with the few league games that have been scheduled. The rationale behind it for getting people games is lost in there being no promotion/relegation. This will result in teams not caring/nobody training etc. They won't even have any bite to them - less than preseason friendlies as there is nothing to play for.

To be fair I'd say most clubs could take or leave the leagues, I'd say some clubs will use it to maybe try out young lads who need a chance at senior but maybe was unfair to throw them on in championship etc and also to give lads game time who maybe bust a gut training there but very little to no game time but as I say if they were called off I doubt there would be too many complaints. Also justifies some managers brown envelopes... only jokin don't wanna open that can again lol  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
I was there and had a perfect view of it, definitely a point.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
How do you know he got it right? Umpire gave it a wide, the commentators were quite adamant it was wide too.
Another Cargin match you just happen to be at, there seems to be a pattern here....
You would say it was over of course. However the umpire gave it a wide and the two commentators said it was wide too. Umpire undermined by the referee which ultimately costed Creggan the championship. No two ways about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
I was there and had a perfect view of it, definitely a point.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
How do you know he got it right? Umpire gave it a wide, the commentators were quite adamant it was wide too.
Another Cargin match you just happen to be at, there seems to be a pattern here....
You would say it was over of course. However the umpire gave it a wide and the two commentators said it was wide too. Umpire undermined by the referee which ultimately costed Creggan the championship. No two ways about it.

If its high and above the posts (not over the posts, as thats a wide) the ref probably has a better view on it than the umpires, as he's behind it. Its ok to over-rule the umpires if its the correct call. That's what we want?

From my position on the sofa, I couldn't tell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 04:21:52 PM
I've also watched plenty of other games involving my own club. You just seem to have taken umbrage where my comments conflict with your warped views.

The umpires dithered and clearly weren't sure, but it definitely went over. The ref knew it and made the right call. You could easily make a more compelling case that the ref prevented Cargin winning it more easily by turning a blind eye to blatant fouls on Kane and McCann near the end.

I take no pleasure in the result other than the fact the better side won which is always good to see.

I have no problem criticising Cargin where it's warranted, and I fundamentally disagree with outside managers,without whom they might not have won any of the three in a row.

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
I was there and had a perfect view of it, definitely a point.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
How do you know he got it right? Umpire gave it a wide, the commentators were quite adamant it was wide too.
Another Cargin match you just happen to be at, there seems to be a pattern here....
You would say it was over of course. However the umpire gave it a wide and the two commentators said it was wide too. Umpire undermined by the referee which ultimately costed Creggan the championship. No two ways about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 04:38:31 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 04:21:52 PM
I've also watched plenty of other games involving my own club. You just seem to have taken umbrage where my comments conflict with your warped views.

The umpires dithered and clearly weren't sure, but it definitely went over. The ref knew it and made the right call. You could easily make a more compelling case that the ref prevented Cargin winning it more easily by turning a blind eye to blatant fouls on Kane and McCann near the end.

I take no pleasure in the result other than the fact the better side won which is always good to see.

I have no problem criticising Cargin where it's warranted, and I fundamentally disagree with outside managers,without whom they might not have won any of the three in a row.

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
I was there and had a perfect view of it, definitely a point.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 20, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
That was 100 percent a point, he got that one right. I didn't think he had a great game but that call in fairness was spot on.


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 20, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 20, 2020, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
So after all the tripe on here as last week, fair play to Toland. That's why he got the gig and Mick McCann is still the the best in the county.

I am the first to eat my hat in Colm O'Rourke style, fair play Totes did a fantastic job!

After an incident I witnessed yesterday, coupled with my attitude last week and Totes performance today I have a longer musing, however I will post tomorrow as I consider my words over a pint
Fantastic job, is this a joke? ;D he undermined his umpire and overruled a wide and gave a point which ultimately costed Creggan a championship. He also bottled a few certain creggan free kicks in the last minute or so of normal time up in the corner.
How do you know he got it right? Umpire gave it a wide, the commentators were quite adamant it was wide too.
Another Cargin match you just happen to be at, there seems to be a pattern here....
You would say it was over of course. However the umpire gave it a wide and the two commentators said it was wide too. Umpire undermined by the referee which ultimately costed Creggan the championship. No two ways about it.
Do you stop actual club members going to support their own teams by taking a ticket at those matches as well?
Taken umbrage with what? The umpire waved it wide, commentators said it was wide, and the referee went against him. Those are the facts. What's the point in having umpires then?
I think the few cert creggan fouls up in the corner in the last minute that the ref bottled would go against that claim. The 14 yard cargin free before that for a 'push' was dubious to say the least also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
I assure you I did not deprive anyone of a ticket.happy to allay that particular concern of yours(so thoughtful of you!).

Employing your own skewed logic,if a referee can't overrule an umpire,what's the point of having referees? The ref was better positioned and made the right call. End of story. Take your beating like a man and move on.

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Do you stop actual club members going to support their own teams by taking a ticket at those matches as well?
Taken umbrage with what? The umpire waved it wide, commentators said it was wide, and the referee went against him. Those are the facts. What's the point in having umpires then?
I think the few cert creggan fouls up in the corner in the last minute that the ref bottled would go against that claim. The 14 yard cargin free before that for a 'push' was dubious to say the least also.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
I assure you I did not deprive anyone of a ticket.happy to allay that particular concern of yours(so thoughtful of you!).

Employing your own skewed logic,if a referee can't overrule an umpire,what's the point of having referees? The ref was better positioned and made the right call. End of story. Take your beating like a man and move on.

Do you stop actual club members going to support their own teams by taking a ticket at those matches as well?
Taken umbrage with what? The umpire waved it wide, commentators said it was wide, and the referee went against him. Those are the facts. What's the point in having umpires then?
I think the few cert creggan fouls up in the corner in the last minute that the ref bottled would go against that claim. The 14 yard cargin free before that for a 'push' was dubious to say the least also.
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Glad you finally admitted you're a cargin man so, as if it wasn't blatantly obvious before.
He wasn't though, that's the whole point of having two umpires under the posts.
Take my beating? ;D Im not a creggan man and am not arsed who won. But i did say the referee would be a talking point after the game and i was proved right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 06:36:01 PM
Aye clearly not arsed. Not arsed to such an extent you're bickering and spouting nonsense all day over it lol.

I'm not a Cargin man, and it seems beyond your imagination to envisage other explanations for my presence,which doesn't surprise me. Good luck trying to make something else up to argue with though.

Congratulations to the men in green on a well-deserved victory.

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 05:19:33 PM
I assure you I did not deprive anyone of a ticket.happy to allay that particular concern of yours(so thoughtful of you!).

Employing your own skewed logic,if a referee can't overrule an umpire,what's the point of having referees? The ref was better positioned and made the right call. End of story. Take your beating like a man and move on.

Do you stop actual club members going to support their own teams by taking a ticket at those matches as well?
Taken umbrage with what? The umpire waved it wide, commentators said it was wide, and the referee went against him. Those are the facts. What's the point in having umpires then?
I think the few cert creggan fouls up in the corner in the last minute that the ref bottled would go against that claim. The 14 yard cargin free before that for a 'push' was dubious to say the least also.
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Glad you finally admitted you're a cargin man so, as if it wasn't blatantly obvious before.
He wasn't though, that's the whole point of having two umpires under the posts.
Take my beating? ;D Im not a creggan man and am not arsed who won. But i did say the referee would be a talking point after the game and i was proved right.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2020, 06:48:51 PM
Cargin won, Toland is the best football ref in the county and Mick McCann is the best Footballer in the county.

Fair play PG1 for the running of it and thanks to our volunteers who helped through this testing season. Down with the paid coaches and managers who are ruining our games.

Up the South West lads, Football in the city is dead 🤭🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 07:00:11 PM
Have to say the pitch at Portglenone was absolutely perfect. For me it's possibly the best ground in the county. Plenty of parking, great pitch,only thing missing is a stand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 08:25:08 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 21, 2020, 07:00:11 PM
Have to say the pitch at Portglenone was absolutely perfect. For me it's possibly the best ground in the county. Plenty of parking, great pitch,only thing missing is a stand.

And a team  :D

Only joking, lovely lads which are a joy to ref in fairness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2020, 09:50:49 PM
LOL MR. Fair play to every clubman who pulls on a referees jersey to honour their club. Its the hardest job of all. And you do both codes, so 100% hats off to you.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 10:08:55 PM
Talking of stands I was in Corrigan tonight looking after our Southy team, the stand is looking great and when it gets completely finished with terracing on the other side will it hold 5 thousand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2020, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 10:08:55 PM
Talking of stands I was in Corrigan tonight looking after our Southy team, the stand is looking great and when it gets completely finished with terracing on the other side will it hold 5 thousand?

Is this the prep for us for when we are told that we can't get access too the new Casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 08:30:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2020, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2020, 10:08:55 PM
Talking of stands I was in Corrigan tonight looking after our Southy team, the stand is looking great and when it gets completely finished with terracing on the other side will it hold 5 thousand?

Is this the prep for us for when we are told that we can't get access too the new Casement?

I don't really think Casement will be an option the way things are going at the minute, this is a immediate fix and ready for the new season, christ knows when Casement will be built so, personally I'd rather we had something than what we currently have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:51:13 AM
Casement isn't ours any more either even when it does eventually materialize. (I honestly think this decade might be a stretch for it but hope I'm wrong)  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 08:54:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:51:13 AM
Casement isn't ours any more either even when it does eventually materialize. (I honestly think this decade might be a stretch for it but hope I'm wrong)  :(

Was hoping to get a run out on it but christ I'll be near 60 at this rate  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:56:54 AM
You'll maybe still be able to ref in it if they don't have the fitness tests back by then ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2020, 08:57:06 AM
If I was a county football manager looking for a quick pitch with a firm surface all the year round, especially Jan to March when Mc Kenna Cup and NFL fixtures are taking place, then there is one option that stands out a mile. Although Id expect the new Casement will include the same high spec of sand stone and pipes and floodlighting that Portglenone has.

Our county matches may be played in Corrigan but again, if I was the manager of Antrim I'd be pushing to train at least once a week under floodlights on the pitch where the match is being played. That worked particularly well in the build up to the vital victory against Limerick in our last match.

Just saying!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 22, 2020, 01:33:28 PM
what do we do with Dunsilly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 22, 2020, 01:33:28 PM
what do we do with Dunsilly?

Dunsilly should be used for what it is, our center of excellence. I've ref'd many a county challenge game up there for minors and seniors, get more use of it that J'stown to what we currently are doing, put in proper gym/weights and conditioning rooms, hurling walls and handball courts, build on what we have..

Dunsilly played its part and will continue too no doubt, but I don't think it was going to be a county ground, I could be wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 22, 2020, 01:58:37 PM
Agreed MR, build it up a bit more, lights and gym etc and use it as the training hub. Tyrone don't play matches in Garvaghey.

BS is there any chat of Portglenone getting a stand or concrete terraces, there seems to be room at the far side?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 22, 2020, 02:28:11 PM
was at the camogie final on sunday past and yet again Portglenone had everything done to a T. well organised all over the pitch

That pitch surface has to be the best in the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2020, 04:41:43 PM
What you see in PG1 at the minute is phase one development. Whenever the club members get their second wind a sustained affort will be made to roll out phase two. The plans for that are adventurous, including a third pitch (or maybe a 4g training pitch) a fully covered stand, and more car parking.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 22, 2020, 06:11:02 PM
Great advertisement for football in Antrim on Sunday. Two teams playing attacking football and leaving everything on the pitch. Creggan extremely unlucky to be on the wrong side with Cargins experience and strength in depth winning the day.

I hope Lenny can convince Ruairi McCann to rejoin the panel a serious player.

A big weekend for the Parish of Duneane also, SFC, IFC, MFC and Reserve FC all residing in it currently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Is the peadar Hefron who is manager of St. Paul's the Creggan fella who got hurt in the bomb?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Is the peadar Hefron who is manager of St. Paul's the Creggan fella who got hurt in the bomb?

St Paul's Holywood? Or Shaws Rd?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 22, 2020, 07:58:20 PM
Some stat that when you think about it Points.... thats what you call "a good year for the parish".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on September 22, 2020, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2020, 04:41:43 PM
What you see in PG1 at the minute is phase one development. Whenever the club members get their second wind a sustained affort will be made to roll out phase two. The plans for that are adventurous, including a third pitch (or maybe a 4g training pitch) a fully covered stand, and more car parking.

What about getting a footpath from the town out to the pitch BS? Be great, not to mention safe, for people to walk out etc. from the town.

How much more ground around the current pitches have yous?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:09:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Is the peadar Hefron who is manager of St. Paul's the Creggan fella who got hurt in the bomb?

St Paul's Holywood? Or Shaws Rd?

Hollywood
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 22, 2020, 08:34:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:09:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 07:39:23 PM
Is the peadar Hefron who is manager of St. Paul's the Creggan fella who got hurt in the bomb?

St Paul's Holywood? Or Shaws Rd?

Hollywood

Yes , paedar  and paddy hannigan in charge in Holywood.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:54:18 PM
Thanks. I was just curious. Good to see him involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
Did he ever receive an apology from Creggan for the way he says they treated him?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
Did he ever receive an apology from Creggan for the way he says they treated him?

I was at a county final one year, you were obviously at it, it was Creggan v Cargin and he was there, I think supporting Creggan. He didn't seem outraged

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 11:14:19 PM
Or to put it another way, you don't know. Thanks anyway, suppose we should be grateful you didn't call anyone a bellend.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
Did he ever receive an apology from Creggan for the way he says they treated him?

I was at a county final one year, you were obviously at it, it was Creggan v Cargin and he was there, I think supporting Creggan. He didn't seem outraged
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 11:19:31 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 11:14:19 PM
Or to put it another way, you don't know. Thanks anyway, suppose we should be grateful you didn't call anyone a bellend.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
Did he ever receive an apology from Creggan for the way he says they treated him?

I was at a county final one year, you were obviously at it, it was Creggan v Cargin and he was there, I think supporting Creggan. He didn't seem outraged

Are you waiting on a Creggan spokesperson coming on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 22, 2020, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2020, 07:58:20 PM
Some stat that when you think about it Points.... thats what you call "a good year for the parish".

Certainly is Bannside when you consider also that Creggan were obviously the opposition to Cargin in the Senior final. Impressive return for the area.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 23, 2020, 08:38:42 AM
That would be ideal,but I'd settle for someone who knows the answer to my question instead of you.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 11:19:31 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 11:14:19 PM
Or to put it another way, you don't know. Thanks anyway, suppose we should be grateful you didn't call anyone a bellend.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
Did he ever receive an apology from Creggan for the way he says they treated him?

I was at a county final one year, you were obviously at it, it was Creggan v Cargin and he was there, I think supporting Creggan. He didn't seem outraged

Are you waiting on a Creggan spokesperson coming on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2020, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: Bronco on September 23, 2020, 08:38:42 AM
That would be ideal,but I'd settle for someone who knows the answer to my question instead of you.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 11:19:31 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 11:14:19 PM
Or to put it another way, you don't know. Thanks anyway, suppose we should be grateful you didn't call anyone a bellend.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 22, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
Did he ever receive an apology from Creggan for the way he says they treated him?

I was at a county final one year, you were obviously at it, it was Creggan v Cargin and he was there, I think supporting Creggan. He didn't seem outraged

Are you waiting on a Creggan spokesperson coming on?

Its been done already, so if you go back a few hundred pages, you'll get the answer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2020, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2020, 04:41:43 PM
What you see in PG1 at the minute is phase one development. Whenever the club members get their second wind a sustained affort will be made to roll out phase two. The plans for that are adventurous, including a third pitch (or maybe a 4g training pitch) a fully covered stand, and more car parking.

BS what is the story with the road running between the two pitches, granted it is a country lane type road but does it get closed on match days? Just thinking if there was ambition to host big games, this would be a consideration from a H&S point of view and not sure it would go down too well.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2020, 09:48:09 AM
The club can apply to either close the road in between, or turn it into one way traffic to expedite a faster getaway. Always plenty of stewards available too Nag to steward things. The second phase development should leave the club able to cater for larger spectators but that wont be for a few years at least, by which time the new Casement may be under development.

Having said that I dont think there is a huge aspiration amongst club members to start hosting county games. The priority is to build a facility for the next generation in Portglenone and especially to coincide with the emergence of a good conveyor belt of juvenile talent that is currently in development. Its all about them, and thats what has provided the energy to drive our facilities from the start. Its a medium - long term plan to be a big player in Antrim Gaa and beyond.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 23, 2020, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on September 22, 2020, 11:39:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 22, 2020, 07:58:20 PM
Some stat that when you think about it Points.... thats what you call "a good year for the parish".

Certainly is Bannside when you consider also that Creggan were obviously the opposition to Cargin in the Senior final. Impressive return for the area.
Money well spent in the SW super parish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on September 23, 2020, 05:24:57 PM
No money involved in the Minor or Intermediate grades
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:37:22 PM
Nor Peters brother Martin Doherty, nor Gerards brother Thomas who were both assistant managers to their brothers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2020, 07:52:49 PM
Any manager coming a distance is entitled to at the very least, travel expenses. After that the club should not be out of pocket on a manager.

Now, and this is the case in most clubs that 'pay'. A very successful clubman will generally front this money. That is between that person and the manager. Club is generally not involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

There's a saying down the country that Belfast should be pushed into the sea but it won't happen 😉🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
It's a bit much calling out people, particularly specific individuals, like this when you're  sitting behind anonymity on a message board   >:( It's poor form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

There's a saying down the country that Belfast should be pushed into the sea but it won't happen 😉🤷‍♂️
do u still believe in the tooth fairy in the country?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

There's a saying down the country that Belfast should be pushed into the sea but it won't happen 😉🤷‍♂️
do u still believe in the tooth fairy in the country?

Yeah of course we do. The Easter bunny gives him a lift
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2020, 09:46:33 PM
None of the four "outsiders" I mentioned took a penny from either Creggan or Moneyglass this year. I understand how some people might have difficulty believing that - but  on this subject I know that I'm100% right. Otherwise I would have no intention of bringing it up in the first place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 09:52:33 PM
Peter Dohertys son in law plays for MG. Thats why he took them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 23, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:59:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

There's a saying down the country that Belfast should be pushed into the sea but it won't happen 😉🤷‍♂️
do u still believe in the tooth fairy in the country?

Yeah of course we do. The Easter bunny gives him a lift
Not a free lift from the Easter Bunny though, Santa slips a wad of cash under the outsiders pillows after every session. An old fashioned Lucky Bag with no poor prizes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 23, 2020, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

That's not true at all, they took no money from Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 24, 2020, 12:19:54 AM
Alot of clubs paying someone within a setup ATM.weather it S&C coach,manager or coach. Some clubs even bring in keeper coaches. Suppose they all trying to compete at the top level. Cargins 3 in a row surely cost around 75k over the 3 years. They will hardly care with the success that comes. All the better if its a wealthy donor paying for it. Went through alot of club men before Brennan got them over the line again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 24, 2020, 10:50:40 AM
Well lads do we know if there will be any football league or are clubs indicating that they have no hunger for them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2020, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 23, 2020, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

That's not true at all, they took no money from Creggan.

Belfast Gaa man, what an inappropriate name you have as you clearly not impassioned with the core gaa values coming on here trying to vilify good Gaa men with not an iotoa of evidence to smear good peoples name, who in truth have made massive contributions to the mental health of the communities with the teams they have coached. Creggan did loose on Sunday, but we as a community have been treated to great summer from June when we were allowed to return to our games coming out of covid. Those players and the drive and expertise of the mangers/coaches have been a blessing to our community having an enjoyable three months. And I commend all those clubs and management teams to put themselves out there, at risk from covid to themselves and their families, for all our benefit, and yours, you de-energising hoor. ;D lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2020, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2020, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 23, 2020, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

That's not true at all, they took no money from Creggan.

Belfast Gaa man, what an inappropriate name you have as you clearly not impassioned with the core gaa values coming on here trying to vilify good Gaa men with not an iotoa of evidence to smear good peoples name, who in truth have made massive contributions to the mental health of the communities with the teams they have coached. Creggan did loose on Sunday, but we as a community have been treated to great summer from June when we were allowed to return to our games coming out of covid. Those players and the drive and expertise of the mangers/coaches have been a blessing to our community having an enjoyable three months. And I commend all those clubs and management teams to put themselves out there, at risk from covid to themselves and their families, for all our benefit, and yours, you de-energising hoor. ;D lol
Ouch ! the 'core values' of the GAA are not taking a team against your own club who Taught you so much - Creggan put out st endas I believe. What motivates people to do this, if not money, baffles me! I love the stories where a club man takes a team right thorugh from u12 to win a senior championship - they are the heroes of the GAA DK
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2020, 12:00:41 PM
I find your calling out of this specific guy, who I know nothing about might I add, in pretty poor form tbh. You'd think now the money think has been debunked you might stop but no :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 24, 2020, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2020, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2020, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 23, 2020, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 23, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
I didnt think Peter Doherty took payment for any of the jobs he has done so thats no suprise that Moneyglass Intermediate success was not delivered by a paid manager. Had Gerard Mc Nulty delivered for Creggan (they couldnt have got much closer to be fair) that success would also be cost free too.
there is a Saying in Belfast regarding Lagan and a bubble BS - The Mcnultys took Madden's 40 pieces of silver to coach against thier  own have no doubt about it

That's not true at all, they took no money from Creggan.

Belfast Gaa man, what an inappropriate name you have as you clearly not impassioned with the core gaa values coming on here trying to vilify good Gaa men with not an iotoa of evidence to smear good peoples name, who in truth have made massive contributions to the mental health of the communities with the teams they have coached. Creggan did loose on Sunday, but we as a community have been treated to great summer from June when we were allowed to return to our games coming out of covid. Those players and the drive and expertise of the mangers/coaches have been a blessing to our community having an enjoyable three months. And I commend all those clubs and management teams to put themselves out there, at risk from covid to themselves and their families, for all our benefit, and yours, you de-energising hoor. ;D lol
Ouch ! the 'core values' of the GAA are not taking a team against your own club who Taught you so much - Creggan put out st endas I believe. What motivates people to do this, if not money, baffles me! I love the stories where a club man takes a team right thorugh from u12 to win a senior championship - they are the heroes of the GAA DK
Maybe the motivation is that they want to manage a senior team and the opportunity presented itself? maybe his own club already had a management team in place who took them to an all Ireland Intermediate final and had a good working relationship with the club and players, should a coach with ambition just wait until that 1 job becomes available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2020, 02:12:24 PM
Jeepers lads this board is some craic.. Middle of a global pandemic and we are getting our knickers in a twist over the head of a few lads getting paid or not getting paid or whatever the case may be.

Surely those complaining should be looking to see how they can help their own club and divisional boards.. From my lofty perch it seems to me that City GAA is dropping in standards bar 1 or 2 clubs. Take a look at the amount of amalgamations there is, MR2 always said there was far to many clubs in the city, i never agreed but it's starting to look as if he was correct. A junior hurling title and a potential junior football title heading down to the city this season wouldn't exactly be a fruitful season for city teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2020, 03:27:32 PM
is there u21 this yeaR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2020, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2020, 03:27:32 PM
is there u21 this yeaR?

no, they gave it a miss this year when the new fixtures came out.

i think this would of been the last year of U21 grade anyway would it not as we are moving to U13, 15, 17 etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on September 24, 2020, 08:50:59 PM
Regards the McNultys @ Creggan I can guarantee you they didnt leave St. endas for money but for other reasons.

Thomas was actually still part of the st endas backroom that reached the AI Intermediate whilst Gerard was at Creggan so I think you'll find your barking up the wrong tree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2020, 09:48:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2020, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2020, 02:12:24 PM
Jeepers lads this board is some craic.. Middle of a global pandemic and we are getting our knickers in a twist over the head of a few lads getting paid or not getting paid or whatever the case may be.

Surely those complaining should be looking to see how they can help their own club and divisional boards.. From my lofty perch it seems to me that City GAA is dropping in standards bar 1 or 2 clubs. Take a look at the amount of amalgamations there is, MR2 always said there was far to many clubs in the city, i never agreed but it's starting to look as if he was correct. A junior hurling title and a potential junior football title heading down to the city this season wouldn't exactly be a fruitful season for city teams.
It's terrible. Although, only one club outside of Belfast winning a senior football championship since the 60s is a pretty sorry tale too.

That it is pal.. but no dodgy birth certificates down the country 😆
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 24, 2020, 10:49:13 PM

Maybe the motivation is that they want to manage a senior team and the opportunity presented itself? maybe his own club already had a management team in place who took them to an all Ireland Intermediate final and had a good working relationship with the club and players, should a coach with ambition just wait until that 1 job becomes available?
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Some worthy points the Mac but I would see it differently from you. Ambition is a key driver in some cases yet I would find it hard to see a Dunloy man coach Loughgiel or a Rossa coach take a senior Johnnies team no matter what was on offer support wise and when you add in the normal genuine reluctance to face your home club I find it hard to accept . In my humble opinion, in these circumstances,  it would be best to either: 1) go outside your own county or
2) fight to take your own club team to satisfy the desire to hold a senior coach/manager position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2020, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 24, 2020, 10:49:13 PM

Maybe the motivation is that they want to manage a senior team and the opportunity presented itself? maybe his own club already had a management team in place who took them to an all Ireland Intermediate final and had a good working relationship with the club and players, should a coach with ambition just wait until that 1 job becomes available?
Some worthy points the Mac but I would see it differently from you. Ambition is a key driver in some cases yet I would find it hard to see a Dunloy man coach Loughgiel or a Rossa coach take a senior Johnnies team no matter what was on offer support wise and when you add in the normal genuine reluctance to face your home club I find it hard to accept . In my humble opinion, in these circumstances,  it would be best to either: 1) go outside your own county or
2) fight to take your own club team to satisfy the desire to hold a senior coach/manager position.
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So you end up taking your senior team, you've been involved in managing juvenile teams, and you fancy taking on another challenge, no biggy.

Sean McGuinness took Antrim hurling to the brink, Jim Nelson came in and took it to another level. Sean went on and took Down to winning Ulster against Antrim, I'll never forget the resentment from Antrim men against big Sean, Sean is a hurling man through and through, the promotion of hurling in Ulster and raising standards, thats how I seen it at the time of what he was doing.

If managers are raising  standards in other clubs the Antrim benefits from that, Aghnagallon have been the best improvement team this year. Creggan for me played the best football and Cargin grinder out another win, Antrim will find players from those teams in the future.

Would a home grown manager done the same? Who knows? In the hurling front the Johnnies Rossa and Dunloy all home grown passionate men, this  year I think is the first time we ever in hurling had an outside manager ( I think) I think it worked very well for us in this strange season.

Never against it as players are fickle and strange beings... hearing the same voice or carrying baggage into having the same managers never helps. Complete outside faces/voices has a place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:37:29 AM
It shouldn't have a place in the GAA though, that's the point. What has made the GAA special is that you play (and manage) for your local club.

Increasingly however this has changed and both players and managers are making lucrative moves,and if we continue down this road we'll end up destroying the GAA. It needs to be stopped. That won't be easy but something needs to be done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 08:42:20 AM
It's already been established this guy didn't go to Creggan for a "lucrative" move. How often are players doing it? Not that often I'd suggest. Yes there are exceptions but they are exceptions.

I think it is over egged the whole thing. There are boys in counties with much more clout in them might be receiving a half decent, though not life changing in any way shape or form, amount of money but I don't think there are too many about here.

So you shouldn't manage or play for another club? What if you can't get a gig with your own? Suck it up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:46:46 AM
Destroying the GAA?

Jesus, seeing as you have put it like that .....

Players and managers are making lucrative moves, a lot of managers getting paid 'expenses' but players now making lucrative moves?

What's made the GAA special is that 99% of people grow up and play for their parish and never move or manage other clubs, that will continue to happen as clubs are made up of families and local schools and communities, hyperbole'ing stuff won't be making it anymore than what it is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 25, 2020, 09:08:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2020, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 24, 2020, 10:49:13 PM

Maybe the motivation is that they want to manage a senior team and the opportunity presented itself? maybe his own club already had a management team in place who took them to an all Ireland Intermediate final and had a good working relationship with the club and players, should a coach with ambition just wait until that 1 job becomes available?
Some worthy points the Mac but I would see it differently from you. Ambition is a key driver in some cases yet I would find it hard to see a Dunloy man coach Loughgiel or a Rossa coach take a senior Johnnies team no matter what was on offer support wise and when you add in the normal genuine reluctance to face your home club I find it hard to accept . In my humble opinion, in these circumstances,  it would be best to either: 1) go outside your own county or
2) fight to take your own club team to satisfy the desire to hold a senior coach/manager position.

So you end up taking your senior team, you've been involved in managing juvenile teams, and you fancy taking on another challenge, no biggy.

Sean McGuinness took Antrim hurling to the brink, Jim Nelson came in and took it to another level. Sean went on and took Down to winning Ulster against Antrim, I'll never forget the resentment from Antrim men against big Sean, Sean is a hurling man through and through, the promotion of hurling in Ulster and raising standards, thats how I seen it at the time of what he was doing.

If managers are raising  standards in other clubs the Antrim benefits from that, Aghnagallon have been the best improvement team this year. Creggan for me played the best football and Cargin grinder out another win, Antrim will find players from those teams in the future.

Would a home grown manager done the same? Who knows? In the hurling front the Johnnies Rossa and Dunloy all home grown passionate men, this  year I think is the first time we ever in hurling had an outside manager ( I think) I think it worked very well for us in this strange season.

Never against it as players are fickle and strange beings... hearing the same voice or carrying baggage into having the same managers never helps. Complete outside faces/voices has a place
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As usual MR2 your like the wee lassie swinging on her Falls Road lamppost, round and round going nowhere. Another mighty fine ramble and avoiding my points about not taking teams against your own club like the managers of Creggan + Aghagallon have done with varying success.
Using big Sean time in Antrim hurling as an example is flawed as its club were talking about .  I can't remember him taking another club though in Antrim to play against his beloved Sarsfields especially not 2 strong teams of the time inRossa & StPauls from the same parish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 25, 2020, 09:30:32 AM
to follow that logic MR2 if the managers can transfer about sure why dont the Players too and have a sky Sports transfer window... where is the line?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Players in Belfast and other cities, have moved around, it happens and the GAA is still going.

What are you doing about it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 25, 2020, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Players in Belfast and other cities, have moved around, it happens and the GAA is still going.

What are you doing about it?
I take a juvenile team and On club committee so that's my role. It's up to Croke to enforce the rules . That's their role
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 10:32:17 AM
Which specific rules? We already established that the boy you have called out wasn't taking any money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 25, 2020, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Players in Belfast and other cities, have moved around, it happens and the GAA is still going.

What are you doing about it?
I take a juvenile team and On club committee so that's my role. It's up to Croke to enforce the rules . That's their role

On club committee? has your club brought forward a motion to tackle this any further? Has your club refused kids from other clubs that wanted to move on due to various reasons?

Has your club in the past had outside managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 25, 2020, 11:03:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:46:46 AM
Destroying the GAA?

Jesus, seeing as you have put it like that .....

Players and managers are making lucrative moves, a lot of managers getting paid 'expenses' but players now making lucrative moves?

What's made the GAA special is that 99% of people grow up and play for their parish and never move or manage other clubs, that will continue to happen as clubs are made up of families and local schools and communities, hyperbole'ing stuff won't be making it anymore than what it is
Rules are rules MR2 and I'm glad I'm in the 99% majority. Why have rules, ethics etc amd not apply them. If you referee do you apply the rules 99% and turn a blind eye to 1%. Surely we applied 100% of Covid regulations
Wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 11:18:51 AM
Just a thought, has it ever occurred to you that perhaps the reason why so many of our clubs coaching standards are so poor is because its inside men have the lack of coaching expertise, repeating year after year, that has resulted in many many poor teams. Antrim has not one school playing Mac Rory and that is a direct result of clubs poor coaching. Cargin and Creggan have been bringing outside coaches for quite a while, mean while  have had their youth teams improve, their youth players playing in Mac Rory as a result, both Sean O Neill and Paudie Mc Laughlin from Cargin were on the St Pats Maghera team that were to play in last Marchs Mac Rory final that was cancelled. That has resulted in coaches from within those clubs learning from skilled outsiders and have introduced those methods to their youth teams. One of the main reasons Dublin improved was that they brought in paid GPO's to the clubs to improve coaching standards within clubs, ten years later look what they have become.

As I said just a thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 25, 2020, 11:03:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:46:46 AM
Destroying the GAA?

Jesus, seeing as you have put it like that .....

Players and managers are making lucrative moves, a lot of managers getting paid 'expenses' but players now making lucrative moves?

What's made the GAA special is that 99% of people grow up and play for their parish and never move or manage other clubs, that will continue to happen as clubs are made up of families and local schools and communities, hyperbole'ing stuff won't be making it anymore than what it is
Rules are rules MR2 and I'm glad I'm in the 99% majority. Why have rules, ethics etc amd not apply them. If you referee do you apply the rules 99% and turn a blind eye to 1%. Surely we applied 100% of Covid regulations
Wise up

Ok Bronco, have I mentioned that its not in the rules? Its down to Croke park to enforce them, if they believe that its breaking the rules then so be it, that's the chance a club takes, if its actually the club paying and not a generous clubman, or the players for that matter..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footballfan473 on September 25, 2020, 01:48:58 PM
Heard about this board through a friend. Some great discussion on here.. One myth I want to clear up though. Cargin & Moneyglass make up the parish  of Duneane and Creggan & Tir na Nog are both part of Randalstown parish.  There's a myriad of town lands that run through all country areas but Kickhams Creggan Gac are not based in the Duneane parish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2020, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: Footballfan473 on September 25, 2020, 01:48:58 PM
Heard about this board through a friend. Some great discussion on here.. One myth I want to clear up though. Cargin & Moneyglass make up the parish  of Duneane and Creggan & Tir na Nog are both part of Randalstown parish.  There's a myriad of town lands that run through all country areas but Kickhams Creggan Gac are not based in the Duneane parish.

A significant number of members and lands surrounding the pitch are part of Duneane Parish which is why it confuses some.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 04:37:57 PM
The St Galls man has no trouble with the rules because his own club are notorious for recruiting players from other clubs.

What a surprise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 25, 2020, 04:55:45 PM
Id say most clubs have a player from another club whether it be a blow in to the area or a player moving for their own reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 25, 2020, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: Footballfan473 on September 25, 2020, 01:48:58 PM
Heard about this board through a friend. Some great discussion on here.. One myth I want to clear up though. Cargin & Moneyglass make up the parish  of Duneane and Creggan & Tir na Nog are both part of Randalstown parish.  There's a myriad of town lands that run through all country areas but Kickhams Creggan Gac are not based in the Duneane parish.

A significant number of members and lands surrounding the pitch are part of Duneane Parish which is why it confuses some.

Im sure alot of the moneyglass team would be from ballyscullion parish too. Part of a different diocese all together I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 04:37:57 PM
The St Galls man has no trouble with the rules because his own club are notorious for recruiting players from other clubs.

What a surprise

We don't recruit, players come to us, if they work or have moved to the area should we just say no?

By recruiting your implying we pay them  ;D

You crack me up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 05:53:03 PM
I'm not implying you pay them. But the policy of taking players from smaller clubs in the area goes against what I believe the GAA should be all about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 06:26:33 PM
I recall our club secretary telling me two years ago, that 9, yes, let me repeat that, 9 players from Eire Og club transferred to St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 06:26:33 PM
I recall our club secretary telling me two years ago, that 9, yes, let me repeat that, 9 players from Eire Og club transferred to St Galls.

9? At senior level or juvenile or was it sanctioned players ?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

So you've no idea it was either sanctioned players that would be unable to play as the team may not have had a chance to field. Or direct transfers?

Ok would be a better post if you were able to provide the full story, it may actually be full transfers but I've no idea either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2020, 08:21:48 PM
Do Eire og have enough to field at underage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's clear what's happening,and disappointing that some continue to make excuses for it.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's clear what's happening,and disappointing that some continue to make excuses for it.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

As clear as Klopp was a poor manager for Liverpool  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's clear what's happening,and disappointing that some continue to make excuses for it.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

It was clear that fella a load of you were chastising was taking money for managing until it was clear that people were wrong about that too :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:28:43 PM
Eh?


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's clear what's happening,and disappointing that some continue to make excuses for it.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

As clear as Klopp was a poor manager for Liverpool  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:30:52 PM
Again - Eh? I didn't chastise anyone for taking money for managing,I simply stated that I don't think the GAA should permit people to manage outside their own club.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's clear what's happening,and disappointing that some continue to make excuses for it.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

It was clear that fella a load of you were chastising was taking money for managing until it was clear that people were wrong about that too :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

So you've no idea it was either sanctioned players that would be unable to play as the team may not have had a chance to field. Or direct transfers?

Ok would be a better post if you were able to provide the full story, it may actually be full transfers but I've no idea either.

Transfers  and sanctions are on two separate  lists .
In 2019 , St.Galls received 9 transfers ,5 from Eire Og , 6 transfers were u18s
Sarsfields  had 8 , 5 were u18
Ardoyne  had 11, all over 18

2020
Davitts had 9 , 3 were under 18.
St Galls had 7 , 4 were u18.

Players came from a range of clubs

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Yeah but you can prove anything with facts 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:30:52 PM
Again - Eh? I didn't chastise anyone for taking money for managing,I simply stated that I don't think the GAA should permit people to manage outside their own club.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's clear what's happening,and disappointing that some continue to make excuses for it.


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

It was clear that fella a load of you were chastising was taking money for managing until it was clear that people were wrong about that too :D

You're entitled to your opinion but thankfully not enough would agree with you hence it not being a rule.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 09:47:38 PM
So it wasn't 9 from Eire Og? Hmmm interesting I thought for sure it was 9, can you check that again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

So you've no idea it was either sanctioned players that would be unable to play as the team may not have had a chance to field. Or direct transfers?

Ok would be a better post if you were able to provide the full story, it may actually be full transfers but I've no idea either.

Transfers  and sanctions are on two separate  lists .
In 2019 , St.Galls received 9 transfers ,5 from Eire Og , 6 transfers were u18s
Sarsfields  had 8 , 5 were u18
Ardoyne  had 11, all over 18

2020
Davitts had 9 , 3 were under 18.
St Galls had 7 , 4 were u18.

Players came from a range of clubs

10 players under the age of 18 transferred to St Galls the past two years. So much for investing in underage coaching. More like investing in underage poaching ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Yeah but you can prove anything with facts 😉

Do you think , I randomly made that up ! THOSE  are directly from the completed official county transfer lists for 2019 and 20
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

So you've no idea it was either sanctioned players that would be unable to play as the team may not have had a chance to field. Or direct transfers?

Ok would be a better post if you were able to provide the full story, it may actually be full transfers but I've no idea either.

Transfers  and sanctions are on two separate  lists .
In 2019 , St.Galls received 9 transfers ,5 from Eire Og , 6 transfers were u18s
Sarsfields  had 8 , 5 were u18
Ardoyne  had 11, all over 18

2020
Davitts had 9 , 3 were under 18.
St Galls had 7 , 4 were u18.

Players came from a range of clubs

10 players under the age of 18 transferred to St Galls the past two years. So much for investing in underage coaching. More like investing in underage poaching ffs.

So you made it up? But now waffling something else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:56:42 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

So you've no idea it was either sanctioned players that would be unable to play as the team may not have had a chance to field. Or direct transfers?

Ok would be a better post if you were able to provide the full story, it may actually be full transfers but I've no idea either.

Transfers  and sanctions are on two separate  lists .
In 2019 , St.Galls received 9 transfers ,5 from Eire Og , 6 transfers were u18s
Sarsfields  had 8 , 5 were u18
Ardoyne  had 11, all over 18

2020
Davitts had 9 , 3 were under 18.
St Galls had 7 , 4 were u18.

Players came from a range of clubs

10 players under the age of 18 transferred to St Galls the past two years. So much for investing in underage coaching. More like investing in underage poaching ffs.


A transfer  into a club, does not always equate to a quality player .Alot of the time, young fellas move to play with their school mates and dont get a run in the new club and have a tendency  to drop out very quickly. Big fish in a wee pond ....springs to.mind. You also have the over - ambitious parent in the background  chasing glory through their children.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:57:27 PM
I don't doubt your figures at all. Wee joke m8.

The numbers don't lie, it's sad to see a club like St Galls going down that route but it is what it is.

Quote from: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Yeah but you can prove anything with facts 😉

Do you think , I randomly made that up ! THOSE  are directly from the completed official county transfer lists for 2019 and 20
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:58:07 PM
Zing!


Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 25, 2020, 07:30:35 PM
I have no idea, he just showed me the list of transfers at the start of the season. My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls

So you've no idea it was either sanctioned players that would be unable to play as the team may not have had a chance to field. Or direct transfers?

Ok would be a better post if you were able to provide the full story, it may actually be full transfers but I've no idea either.

Transfers  and sanctions are on two separate  lists .
In 2019 , St.Galls received 9 transfers ,5 from Eire Og , 6 transfers were u18s
Sarsfields  had 8 , 5 were u18
Ardoyne  had 11, all over 18

2020
Davitts had 9 , 3 were under 18.
St Galls had 7 , 4 were u18.

Players came from a range of clubs

10 players under the age of 18 transferred to St Galls the past two years. So much for investing in underage coaching. More like investing in underage poaching ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 09:59:30 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:57:27 PM
I don't doubt your figures at all. Wee joke m8.

The numbers don't lie, it's sad to see a club like St Galls going down that route but it is what it is.

Quote from: delgany on September 25, 2020, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Yeah but you can prove anything with facts 😉

Do you think , I randomly made that up ! THOSE  are directly from the completed official county transfer lists for 2019 and 20

Did you actually read his post and just see St Galls?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 25, 2020, 10:00:24 PM
Back to the football, last of the senior finals tomorrow; Ardoyne v St Comgalls. Again, being broadcast live on Antrim Facebook page. Ardoyne has a handy win over same opposition in the group stage. Finals can be different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 10:05:31 PM
Ardoyne seem to yo yo a bit in the football. Would maybe be good to see Antrim win it. Think it will be close and maybe Antrim to sneak it.

Minor b final on too - Creggan Glenravel. Suspect reading previous reports of games it may be tight too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 10:06:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2020, 10:01:47 PM
Is the consensus here that St. Gall's are actively pursuing players from Éire Óg? 9 of them? And we're believing that? Right...

9 but ended up being something different..

Our scouts are actively hanging around the Derriaghy area
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 25, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2020, 10:05:31 PM
Ardoyne seem to yo yo a bit in the football. Would maybe be good to see Antrim win it. Think it will be close and maybe Antrim to sneak it.

Minor b final on too - Creggan Glenravel. Suspect reading previous reports of games it may be tight too.

Depends how the soccer fixs are going ..for ardoyne. So going well at the minute  thanks to Jamie Bryson .. of all people !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:10:33 PM
If st galls are back scouting other clubs players, its a bit sick.  We've jested in the past about them hoovering up around Belfast and ulster, sending the bus to Crumlin for u12 players, but to see in in such stark terms is the antithesis of Gaa ethos. No real surprise then how they were the only all ireland champions with condemned changing rooms- blow ins who.dont care about the club in the long term.   

St galls were and are a mainstay of antrim.football - before their blow in success - they need real st galls people to support the club, invest in it and stay with it for the youth and greater good.  Every club has one or two blow in whom are assimilated, but not the numbers we are talking about here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 11:16:58 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:10:33 PM
If st galls are back scouting other clubs players, its a bit sick.  We've jested in the past about them hoovering up around Belfast and ulster, sending the bus to Crumlin for u12 players, but to see in in such stark terms is the antithesis of Gaa ethos. No real surprise then how they were the only all ireland champions with condemned changing rooms- blow ins who.dont care about the club in the long term.   

St galls were and are a mainstay of antrim.football - before their blow in success - they need real st galls people to support the club, invest in it and stay with it for the youth and greater good.  Every club has one or two blow in whom are assimilated, but not the numbers we are talking about here

My jaw dropped at 9 transfers to St Galls, was a quote on here from someone, but of course it's wrong. But you being daft and all will take that.

We've been winning and competing  Ulster championships since the 80's.  There's Not a club in Antrim that has not got players who have moved from club to club!

Blow in success  ;D I suppose we had it in 82 as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:22:02 PM
16 transfers in last 2 years alone.  Speaks for itself. Plastic titles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 11:24:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:22:02 PM
16 transfers in last 2 years alone.  Speaks for itself. Plastic titles.

We've won nowt lol 😂

Any teams that won titles at the weekend with blow ins?

Hmmmmm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:29:01 PM
Everyone has one or two, not a sizeable chunk of the team.  Long term its a problem, short term it isnt. Creggan and tir na nog having their own territorial battle over players so its not exclusively a st galls problem but certainly leaves a hollow feeling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:29:01 PM
Everyone has one or two, not a sizeable chunk of the team.  Long term its a problem, short term it isnt. Creggan and tir na nog having their own territorial battle over players so its not exclusively a st galls problem but certainly leaves a hollow feeling

So has there been a senior team at football recently won a title with an outside player in their ranks? Maybe even an ex county player? Not a squad type player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 11:33:49 PM
Shocking to see the scale of the operation laid out like that. Very disappointing behaviour.

Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:22:02 PM
16 transfers in last 2 years alone.  Speaks for itself. Plastic titles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:37:51 PM
you never read, just react.    Every team has one or two - not a plethora like at galls had.   The current county champions Cargin had a transfer who came on for the last ten mins, hardly integral but valued  See, it can be done, and I'd say he'll even stay around long enough to buy a raffle ticket at Christmas unlike those fermanagh st galls men 😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2020, 11:41:05 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 25, 2020, 11:33:49 PM
Shocking to see the scale of the operation laid out like that. Very disappointing behaviour.

Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:22:02 PM
16 transfers in last 2 years alone.  Speaks for itself. Plastic titles.

;D

Which is shocking?  all of it? Or just us? Is one player moving to another club shocking or players being lost forever?

Would you prefer players moving to other sports? Are you a GAA man or soccer?

So Spike, that person you mentioned wasn't integral to Cargin? f**k me, you really don't give a shit about him by sounds of it  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
16 players. 16 players, and you're bumbling about men you don't know the name of.

16 players, years of blow ins, pigeon shit in your changing rooms and you're hanging onto 'every team has one' lol.

Grow a set and take back your club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 12:27:18 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 25, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
16 players. 16 players, and you're bumbling about men you don't know the name of.

16 players, years of blow ins, pigeon shit in your changing rooms and you're hanging onto 'every team has one' lol.

Grow a set and take back your club.

Grow a set ;D. Clubs fine, even with pigeon shit in changing rooms it's managed to win some silverware over the years in hurling football and ladies football.

Brennan still coming back to buy raffles? You'll need them to pay for all managers you bring in.

As for bumbling, played against him many a time as a hurler, really lovely fella to boot, a gent to referee also, no mouthing. Obviously picked that up from his own club

You're a contradiction along with bronco.. either you're against players transferring (and managers) or not. 1 or a dozen is no difference

As for clubs losing players as they can't maintain teams that's sad, no one wants clubs to fold, unfortunately and I've said it many times, too many clubs not enough players. But hey, that's our fault

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2020, 07:45:56 AM
1 or 16 is a difference MR2.  1 is typical, 16 is not and past history suggests a club ethos.

Don't be blinded by the pursuit of shiny things at the expense of what really matters and thats the club being the heart of the community.   No one said people cant transfer but do you really expect these mass transfers to work out into integral club members in it for the long haul?  Surely some should have been encouraged to join other clubs in the area.  What happens to the st galls youngsters who are now sitting en masse on the subs bench? Its hardly encouraging for them.

Take Creggan for example, every man, woman and child is in it for the long haul. Events, fundraising, support.  They invest their time and energy into an ongoing project to which success is only a bonus.  When you win, with a collection of  players you've supported and encouraged since they were 5 years if age, it feels a much more integrated success and long after that success, you can still reminisce about the great times as they will still be about the club in some way.  From cradle to the grave.

I get that you and others don't really care as long as there's a trophy at the end of it, but for the sake of the st galls legacy and community there should at least be the attempt at curtailing the numbers somewhat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 09:05:15 AM
You've avoided my points that's fine

If you're going to talk about it then engage

Why is Eire Og  losing players?

Have we actively recruited them? And if so can you give me evidence of this

What's the alternative to kids playing for a club with no team? Not just Eire Og in this we've also been reliant on kids coming to us to field teams, same as most clubs in Belfast. But you'd know that but highlight us, good dodge

I've said repeatedly there's too many clubs in Belfast not enough players. What's your solution? Galefast hopefully will help.

Belfast isn't made up of parishes and communities, Gorts, Endas, Ardoyne and Pearses, possibly the only clubs that puck from their area, the rest don't, it's made up off families who where their from old parishes, the bed rock is there but it's ever changing, again that's the make up of a city, not a st Galls made problem

You seem smart enough with good posts but then let yourself down by Galls bashing

Talk me through some of the points I've listed

I'll also agree that 16 transfers is way too high
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2020, 10:48:20 AM
Its obvious rural and urban idea of parish is different. For years and years the predominant sport in the city for male youth was soccer. Properly organised games every week. On top of that many schools did not have a proper GAA ethos, and for the vast majority GAA was a peripheral organisation. Many schools could not get teachers to involve themselves in coaching. So for the majority, the cradle to the grave GAA ethos was non existent.

Despite this, City teams led the way for a long time in silverware count, and although Cargin and to a more recent extent Creggan led the challenge from SW, it was Citymen challenging SW to step up.

Now we have Gaelfast tackling many of the forementioned problems with adequate solutions and are promoting the game and raising awareness. Thats a massive start. School teacher participation is high and some city clubs are getting their act together, facilities and otherwise. The ones failing to do so will eventually fold and in SA there will end up about 8 - 10 good clubs, doing things right. Quality over Quantity.

Meanwhile back in SW many clubs have started to up the ante too in juvenile development and in facilities.   I think 10 years will see a massive step  up in properly organised clubs in both regions, numbers participating, facilities - hopefully resulting in a higher number of technically proficient players that can represent us at inter county level.

The Us v Them thing is ok for a bit of craic, hopefully the competition drives everyone on a bit further. How good would it be if Antrim are giving us big days out at provincial or national level for the next generation instead of the dross we have had to endure (proportionate to our size and potential) for the last 50 odd years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Time Hurler on September 26, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
In my experience almost all clubs have took in players from other clubs at underage or senior level.

At underage level it is mainly due to the players home club not being able to produce a team for said players. The player usually stays with 2nd club until he leaves minor and then decides to join 2nd club fully as he's played for them for up to 10 years at underage.

At senior level players transfer for a multitude of reasons, Fallings out with home club, moving for work, marriage etc or just wanted to play at a higher level.

Surely it is better that players are allowed to move clubs than lose them to another sport.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 26, 2020, 04:28:43 PM
Sad to see a referee trying to justify an inherently unfair approach by his own club to improving their fortunes.

As Victor Hugo said "Being good is easy, what is difficult is being just".....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 04:43:37 PM
Ardoyne off to a flyer with 3 first half goals. Are these teams in the same division?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
It's the outside manager and the 24 lads they've got from other clubs that's winning it for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
It's the outside manager and the 24 lads they've got from other clubs that's winning it for them

No, it's St galls that have them winning it! I can't believe it! The real team is putting in a better second half!

Game on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2020, 06:34:34 PM
MR2 we're not angry with you - we're disappointed  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 26, 2020, 06:54:07 PM
defending MR2 for a cahnge - If Eire Og fold of course you can't close your door on young lads who want to play - thats not glory hunting transfers that shouldn't happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 26, 2020, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 04:43:37 PM
Ardoyne off to a flyer with 3 first half goals. Are these teams in the same division?
Glad to see ardoyne win junior after Antrims underhand tactics in Mitchell's game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 09:31:32 PM
MR2 not an attack here, however an honest question! Are there any rules or advice that you are given as part of refs training in relation to PR and internet use? I am astonished that you have launched into an attack against Cargin today and you reffed them in a SFC final only last season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 26, 2020, 09:42:35 PM
Have to say I was taken aback at that too.


Quote from: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 09:31:32 PM
MR2 not an attack here, however an honest question! Are there any rules or advice that you are given as part of refs training in relation to PR and internet use? I am astonished that you have launched into an attack against Cargin today and you reffed them in a SFC final only last season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 26, 2020, 10:07:50 PM
An attack against Cargin ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 10:11:20 PM
'Twas a back hand handed sky dig, about Magill not being a mouth however that must have been taught to him by him original club, or something to that effect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2020, 10:19:11 PM
I think there is a rule that all posts on forums must be cleared by the head of the refs committee and croker..

I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 26, 2020, 10:23:21 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 09:31:32 PM
MR2 not an attack here, however an honest question! Are there any rules or advice that you are given as part of refs training in relation to PR and internet use? I am astonished that you have launched into an attack against Cargin today and you reffed them in a SFC final only last season?

Its not an attack but its certainly a wind up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2020, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 26, 2020, 10:19:11 PM
I think there is a rule that all posts on forums must be cleared by the head of the refs committee and croker..

I could be wrong though.
I'm sure that's as easily policed as the manager payment.

Was a serious point PJ how can a man claim to be impartial but clear spell out that he has a problem with a particular team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2020, 10:39:58 PM

I thought todays JFC final was a fitting end to the championship season. It ended up being a close match, despite Ardoyne scoring 3 early goals. There were tactical issues, some wonderful scores - points and goals -  a comeback, and some really strong performances from players on both sides. 

All eyes now on the county scene, we have the fixtures. Weekend of 17th / 18th October is vital for Antrim in both codes.

Well done Sean Kelly especially in the streaming of games. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2020, 10:54:22 PM
You should start leaking your referee reports to WhatsApp.

Not sure how you can leak a private email  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 11:02:31 PM
I see we have no refs appointed for the Hurling matches tomorrow, does that mean the league isn't being played out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 26, 2020, 11:02:31 PM
I see we have no refs appointed for the Hurling matches tomorrow, does that mean the league isn't being played out?
Nothing till following week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2020, 11:14:47 PM
Thats precisely what happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2020, 11:14:47 PM
Thats precisely what happened.
Antrim had the breeze and deployed their players better, Ardoyne had a sin bin and Antrim used the space better

Ardoyne eventually came back into it and managed to win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 26, 2020, 11:31:24 PM
Yes big weekend in 3 weeks. County Footballers and hurlers both in action in must win games to deliver on pre season targets.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 26, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Exactly. Maybe you should be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 26, 2020, 11:51:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 26, 2020, 11:14:47 PM
Thats precisely what happened.
Antrim had the breeze and deployed their players better, Ardoyne had a sin bin and Antrim used the space better

Ardoyne eventually came back into it and managed to win

Antrim will rue those first 5 mins in the first half .. cut open down the middle !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 26, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Exactly. Maybe you should be.

Ok, for dummies, where have I not been fair during games? I call it as I see it, I can't ref my club, and I'm well past the point of who wins!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 27, 2020, 12:00:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 26, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Exactly. Maybe you should be.

Ok, for dummies, where have I not been fair during games? I call it as I see it, I can't ref my club, and I'm well past the point of who wins!
No, for dummies ie you, ill spell it out for you ;D you said where have i been impartial. In other words, when have i ever been fair, basically saying that youve been biased. Look up the definition of impartial ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 27, 2020, 06:41:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 26, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Exactly. Maybe you should be.

Ok, for dummies, where have I not been fair during games? I call it as I see it, I can't ref my club, and I'm well past the point of who wins!

Always rob aghagallon. Call us Armagh bastards and everything  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on September 27, 2020, 07:52:02 AM
A Cargin man suggested to me that not losing a championship game where you've been the ref is much more impressive than the 3 in a row. He said they'd still be playing additional time if you were the ref last Sunday.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2020, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 27, 2020, 06:41:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 26, 2020, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2020, 10:41:27 PM
Eh? Where have I been impartial in my decisions during a game?

As regards to training, during season I'll not post about teams, never have since one poster brought it up years ago.

All referees are not bothered who wins or loses. They only want an easy 60 mins go home.

I seen a tweet from a ref the other week from a club referee which was a bit controversial and said referee was refereeing a club he'd gave off too! Are wee worried? No.

Please highlight where I'm being wrong? I've never ref'd Cargin where they have lost a championship match! I'd be more of a good luck charm to them  :D

Great club, properly focused with mad passionate support, my musings on here are a wind up
Exactly. Maybe you should be.

Ok, for dummies, where have I not been fair during games? I call it as I see it, I can't ref my club, and I'm well past the point of who wins!

Always rob aghagallon. Call us Armagh bastards and everything  :(

Who'd be a ref?!  ;D



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 27, 2020, 10:20:58 AM
Not you by the looks o things

*sniggers*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2020, 01:43:07 PM
Minor B for Glenravel yesterday, first one since 1964 according to their Facebook page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 27, 2020, 08:33:00 PM
Thats a good year group in Con Magees, didnt they win SW U 16 a few years ago plus the Alastair Breslin Memorial as well. A couple of really good players if I recall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on September 28, 2020, 09:05:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 27, 2020, 08:33:00 PM
Thats a good year group in Con Magees, didnt they win SW U 16 a few years ago plus the Alastair Breslin Memorial as well. A couple of really good players if I recall.

BS last year was the strong year group
They won SW u14A, U16A Got beat AET by St Bridgids by a point I think in last years MFC. At least 4 or 5 of them have played on their intermediate championship team this year. They have a few from the previous years team as well. Combine that with a few from this year and over that 3 year period they will have a good core group for the next 5-10 years. Expect them to establish themselves as top half div2 team and push on. It is a very competitive division though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2020, 10:41:34 PM
Hearing a few clubs have decided that they won't play in the league and have ceased activity for the year. Will the leagues even take place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2020, 10:54:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 28, 2020, 10:41:34 PM
Hearing a few clubs have decided that they won't play in the league and have ceased activity for the year. Will the leagues even take place?

Some clubs will play but not in the current format..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2020, 11:00:21 PM
I see Carey Faughs have pulled the pin, I think Rasharkin and Glenravel hurlers and Footballers have done the same. I heard Creggan also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2020, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 28, 2020, 11:00:21 PM
I see Carey Faughs have pulled the pin, I think Rasharkin and Glenravel hurlers and Footballers have done the same. I heard Creggan also.

Ref'd a game at the weekend, weather was great and great turnout for both teams, I don't see any reason other than possible outbreaks that a team shouldn't just go with it and play, reduce training play the games, no harm.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 29, 2020, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2020, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 28, 2020, 11:00:21 PM
I see Carey Faughs have pulled the pin, I think Rasharkin and Glenravel hurlers and Footballers have done the same. I heard Creggan also.

Ref'd a game at the weekend, weather was great and great turnout for both teams, I don't see any reason other than possible outbreaks that a team shouldn't just go with it and play, reduce training play the games, no harm.

My feeling on it too, lads had nothing at all there for months, now they've a chance to ply a bit of football and hurling with no pressure and just enjoy it, really can't see any down side, as you say if there's Covid issues then by all means call a game off but I'm sure all clubs will be able to get enough fellas out to fulfil games, plenty a lads I'm sure who didn't see much game time in championship who'd love games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2020, 10:15:06 AM
Its not been decided with ourselves if we will field or not in the football and hurling as well.

Will prob be decided tonight what we will do.

Personally i can see arguments for and against it but if we did field it would be teams of young lads minus all our county hurlers.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2020, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2020, 10:15:06 AM
Its not been decided with ourselves if we will field or not in the football and hurling as well.

Will prob be decided tonight what we will do.

Personally i can see arguments for and against it but if we did field it would be teams of young lads minus all our county hurlers.

Perfect, and if you can't field thats grand also..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 29, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2020, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2020, 10:15:06 AM
Its not been decided with ourselves if we will field or not in the football and hurling as well.

Will prob be decided tonight what we will do.

Personally i can see arguments for and against it but if we did field it would be teams of young lads minus all our county hurlers.

Perfect, and if you can't field thats grand also..

I see going by countys Facebook that they've reshuffled again so must have got some sorta indication from clubs that they'd field some sort of team and those that didn't they just pulled them out, gets lads games if nothing else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2020, 12:43:05 PM
Seen it there, Covid leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 29, 2020, 01:22:02 PM
I see on the Antrim fixtures website that Sarsfields home matches are held at the 'Bear Pit' Is this in anyway the official name for their field?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2020, 01:31:23 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 29, 2020, 01:22:02 PM
I see on the Antrim fixtures website that Sarsfields home matches are held at the 'Bear Pit' Is this in anyway the official name for their field?

I'd assume so... Our pitches are officially De-La-Salle Park but gets Milltown Row.. Anyone call it anything else? Always the Bear Pit to me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 29, 2020, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2020, 12:43:05 PM
Seen it there, Covid leagues

HOMEFIT POST COVID FOOTBALL- Some competitive games in there. So glad to see some format for those who want to play as a County and an association it seemed bleak in April/May time and for me the continuation of teams being afforded to play is another dial back to clubs getting the importance and recognition they deserve................long run the season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 29, 2020, 06:56:07 PM
Friendlies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 29, 2020, 06:56:07 PM
Friendlies

I'd imagine the Covid cup will be given to winners at the end!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 30, 2020, 08:07:34 PM
When is A National draw not a National draw..... see GAA newsletter September
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 03, 2020, 10:01:27 PM
https://t.co/hlTw8E0YIv

An excellent piece from Brendan Crossan highlighting the miraculous recovery from Covid of Gerald Mc Larnon and Niall Murphy after months in coma.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 05, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
So the u12 team looking forward to their championship Final don't get playing it b cos adults can't behave ! Blanket bans are lazy and punish the Innocent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 05, 2020, 10:46:21 PM
Have to agree with Belfast gaa man. GAA is peculiar organisation at times but more so at the moment. National Draw is RoI only and therfore not for the nation. Nothing from Ulster Council on this.
Today all club activities called off!!!!!  the u12s across the 32 are now kicking their heels because their older GAA members can't control the celebrations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
What's the alternative? Play it off once the ban ceases? I wouldn't put the blame of the crisis at the door of the GAA as it's not surprising that when wet pubs opened and students went back to college and we opened up primary and secondary schools that there would be a hike!

Hopefully it will reduce numbers and these games can be finished, the blaming of GAA by ones on the hill is exactly what you are doing. Club supporters are not blameless either, and need to share some of the blame and attention it's getting but there's a lot more to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bronco on October 05, 2020, 11:06:56 PM
Dry your eyes.

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 05, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
So the u12 team looking forward to their championship Final don't get playing it b cos adults can't behave ! Blanket bans are lazy and punish the Innocent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 05, 2020, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 05, 2020, 11:06:56 PM
Dry your eyes.

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 05, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
So the u12 team looking forward to their championship Final don't get playing it b cos adults can't behave ! Blanket bans are lazy and punish the Innocent
Bronco why do you give out about "unprovoked abuse" on the Man Utd thread and then engage in unprovoked abuse on this thread?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2020, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
What's the alternative? Play it off once the ban ceases? I wouldn't put the blame of the crisis at the door of the GAA as it's not surprising that when wet pubs opened and students went back to college and we opened up primary and secondary schools that there would be a hike!

Hopefully it will reduce numbers and these games can be finished, the blaming of GAA by ones on the hill is exactly what you are doing. Club supporters are not blameless either, and need to share some of the blame and attention it's getting but there's a lot more to it
Throw the kids championship under the bus with no mention of county teams  being cancelled. That's the peculiar decision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2020, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
What's the alternative? Play it off once the ban ceases? I wouldn't put the blame of the crisis at the door of the GAA as it's not surprising that when wet pubs opened and students went back to college and we opened up primary and secondary schools that there would be a hike!

Hopefully it will reduce numbers and these games can be finished, the blaming of GAA by ones on the hill is exactly what you are doing. Club supporters are not blameless either, and need to share some of the blame and attention it's getting but there's a lot more to it
Throw the kids championship under the bus with no mention of county teams  being cancelled. That's the peculiar decision

The county teams fall under elite teams. You haven't replied to my proposal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 06, 2020, 07:55:32 AM
Why are kids championships only taking place now? Why weren't they played off before now in the better weather when things opened up again? Genuine question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 08:34:18 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 06, 2020, 07:55:32 AM
Why are kids championships only taking place now? Why weren't they played off before now in the better weather when things opened up again? Genuine question.

Who knows, there was plenty opportunity with regards to timing, but with the condensed Championships was there enough referees to officiate them? I don't know, but I'm sure when the numbers go down the sensible option will be to play them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 06, 2020, 09:35:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 08:34:18 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 06, 2020, 07:55:32 AM
Why are kids championships only taking place now? Why weren't they played off before now in the better weather when things opened up again? Genuine question.

Who knows, there was plenty opportunity with regards to timing, but with the condensed Championships was there enough referees to officiate them? I don't know, but I'm sure when the numbers go down the sensible option will be to play them

No I'm sorry but there is no excuse for these not being played during the summer when the time and space was available to do so.

How many training sessions would these teams have had now in comparison to game time? These should have been well completed before the schools had got up and running again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on October 06, 2020, 09:43:28 AM
The dual clubs were playing 2/3 matches a week, they done well to get in as many games in as they did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 06, 2020, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on October 06, 2020, 09:43:28 AM
The dual clubs were playing 2/3 matches a week, they done well to get in as many games in as they did.

What were the matches they were playing then?
Surely a couple of matches to get going and then into a championship?

Or did they try to run a full seasons worth of fixtures into half a season at best?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 06, 2020, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: angermanagement on October 06, 2020, 09:43:28 AM
The dual clubs were playing 2/3 matches a week, they done well to get in as many games in as they did.

What were the matches they were playing then?
Surely a couple of matches to get going and then into a championship?

Or did they try to run a full seasons worth of fixtures into half a season at best?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

When the games opened up the priority was to get the senior competitions going, I don't think there was one argument for that at the time, we all praised the county board for running off the championships like they did and they were great games from minor up through junior interm and senior.

Then we have the pressure from media that has really been the reason for shutting down the games as clampits couldn't help themselves and partying hard in their locals then move to other locals and before you know it all these wee villages and towns had infections spread right across them..

Was that the fault of the county board? but its an easy out to complain I suppose.. The games were rescheduled when we had the opening up, did the clubs bring it to the attention of the county that this needs looked at as we may not get these games played?

This is the first time that clubs actually had priority with having all their county players for a good period without any activity from the county, which was a bonus also. I said in an earlier post we had plenty of opportunity but maybe the timing and doing the fixtures (I've never set in on fixture planning can't imagine it is easy) didn't allow for those games to be played
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2020, 11:42:00 AM
Damned if you and damned if you don't. The county board did well enough to run off whatever games were played and gave us all great enjoyment on Facebook and through the various streams and platforms that were used. Who could of envisaged this happening during March or April?

Yes some supporters have acted irresponsibly but it's human nature, I'm not condoning it but it happens with a crowd of so many people.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
And also, let's not forget the terrific work that the GAA have done all over the 32 counties for both sides of the divide here. It's easy to sit and have a pop at people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 06, 2020, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 06, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
And also, let's not forget the terrific work that the GAA have done all over the 32 counties for both sides of the divide here. It's easy to sit and have a pop at people.

Don't get me wrong PJ I'm not having a pop at anyone here, all im saying is that those giving off now about u12 competitions need a bit of reality. Agree with what you have said on the huge work done by clubs and volunteers, on / off the pitch within the club and especially within the community.

Be a seriously interesting stat if there was a way to compile in a monetary figure, all the money raised and volunteer time spent by all clubs up here. I would imagine it would shut some dissenters up who have been taking a pop at the association.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2020, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2020, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
What's the alternative? Play it off once the ban ceases? I wouldn't put the blame of the crisis at the door of the GAA as it's not surprising that when wet pubs opened and students went back to college and we opened up primary and secondary schools that there would be a hike!

Hopefully it will reduce numbers and these games can be finished, the blaming of GAA by ones on the hill is exactly what you are doing. Club supporters are not blameless either, and need to share some of the blame and attention it's getting but there's a lot more to it
Throw the kids championship under the bus with no mention of county teams  being cancelled. That's the peculiar decision

The county teams fall under elite teams. You haven't replied to my proposal
I wasn't sure there was a proposal hidden in your gobbledegook
I wasn't being overly critical and the crisis isn't Croke Pks fault. Put simply there are more u12 than county elites, look after the majority. Mol an Oige etc....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2020, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2020, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 06, 2020, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
What's the alternative? Play it off once the ban ceases? I wouldn't put the blame of the crisis at the door of the GAA as it's not surprising that when wet pubs opened and students went back to college and we opened up primary and secondary schools that there would be a hike!

Hopefully it will reduce numbers and these games can be finished, the blaming of GAA by ones on the hill is exactly what you are doing. Club supporters are not blameless either, and need to share some of the blame and attention it's getting but there's a lot more to it
Throw the kids championship under the bus with no mention of county teams  being cancelled. That's the peculiar decision

The county teams fall under elite teams. You haven't replied to my proposal
I wasn't sure there was a proposal hidden in your gobbledegook
I wasn't being overly critical and the crisis isn't Croke Pks fault. Put simply there are more u12 than county elites, look after the majority. Mol an Oige etc....

What's the alternative? gobbledegook?  Its Dick and Dora stuff really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2020, 02:05:31 PM
Anyway, amidst all the COVID stuff, sad news coming out of Pearses in North Belfast with the passing of Michael O'Neill. I don't know how many of you followed his story on Twitter but he was a brave man and a true gent.

May he rest in peace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2020, 02:17:29 PM
I followed him. Jesus that poor man had a terrible time of it. I didn't know him personally but came across very well especially with what he was facing. RIP. Reading someone saying they'd been diagnosed terminal and then seeing their thoughts was eye opening and awfully sad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 06, 2020, 03:38:52 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 05, 2020, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 05, 2020, 11:06:56 PM
Dry your eyes.

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 05, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
So the u12 team looking forward to their championship Final don't get playing it b cos adults can't behave ! Blanket bans are lazy and punish the Innocent
Bronco why do you give out about "unprovoked abuse" on the Man Utd thread and then engage in unprovoked abuse on this thread?
A soccer mam i should have known. The GAA was right to call a halt with the scenes. Then They should have asked all boards what chmapionships they had left to play and then make a decision - this was knee jerk and lazy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2020, 07:49:34 PM
Some very bitter and angry people on this board... jeez lads would ye ever settle and relax
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 06, 2020, 11:21:02 PM
County has announced a two week circuit breaker from training.  Why would you train on under these circumstances with the games shut down. The previous announcement was basically see you all next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 07, 2020, 11:10:24 AM
not sure if you know but kids up to u10 train all year except July & December regardless of games - if its only 2 weeks fair ennough but We seem to be going harder at this than Croke who say the games are paused only
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 07, 2020, 12:05:43 PM
Personally I'm not a believer in training in Oct / Nov.  Everyone needs a break. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on October 07, 2020, 02:52:30 PM
Can I ask those who support the cessation of all activities - why?

I understand Covid is on the rise, but to date there has been no linkage between outdoor participation in sport to the transmission of the virus.  Ergo cancelling sport will have no beneficial impact on the reduction of the spread!

Stopping youth sport will have a significant detrimental impact on the physical, social & emotional well being of our children.  Make no mistake, the season is over, for many children GAA would be the only structured physical activity they would get at this time of the year.

In my mind this was purely a PR move to counter the negative publicity generated recently.  Everyone knew the problem was the celebrations not the sport but out with the bath water went baby and all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 07, 2020, 04:24:05 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 07, 2020, 02:52:30 PM
Can I ask those who support the cessation of all activities - why?

I understand Covid is on the rise, but to date there has been no linkage between outdoor participation in sport to the transmission of the virus.  Ergo cancelling sport will have no beneficial impact on the reduction of the spread!

Stopping youth sport will have a significant detrimental impact on the physical, social & emotional well being of our children.  Make no mistake, the season is over, for many children GAA would be the only structured physical activity they would get at this time of the year.

In my mind this was purely a PR move to counter the negative publicity generated recently.  Everyone knew the problem was the celebrations not the sport but out with the bath water went baby and all.
Are you saying Steven Nolan is the NEw fixtures runai? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 07, 2020, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 07, 2020, 02:52:30 PM
Can I ask those who support the cessation of all activities - why?

I understand Covid is on the rise, but to date there has been no linkage between outdoor participation in sport to the transmission of the virus.  Ergo cancelling sport will have no beneficial impact on the reduction of the spread!

Stopping youth sport will have a significant detrimental impact on the physical, social & emotional well being of our children.  Make no mistake, the season is over, for many children GAA would be the only structured physical activity they would get at this time of the year.

In my mind this was purely a PR move to counter the negative publicity generated recently.  Everyone knew the problem was the celebrations not the sport but out with the bath water went baby and all.

You changed your name without consulting me?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: downjim on October 09, 2020, 10:22:50 AM
Are GAA social clubs closing in the city?
Does anyone know the law around this please?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2020, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: downjim on October 09, 2020, 10:22:50 AM
Are GAA social clubs closing in the city?
Does anyone know the law around this please?

Ours is closed, some never opened and there might be the odd one still open, whether there is an actual law I'm not sure as if you are meeting the requirements of what the Gov is asking you should be ok..

But a directive has come from Croke Park asking all clubs to cease as a place that serves drink!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: downjim on October 09, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
I am in no way advocating opening of bars but surely if bars are opened in the 6 counties they can be opened up. WOuld the GAA sanction a club if they opened this weeks in the 6 counties?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2020, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: downjim on October 09, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
I am in no way advocating opening of bars but surely if bars are opened in the 6 counties they can be opened up. WOuld the GAA sanction a club if they opened this weeks in the 6 counties?

Not sure, but given that's its a directive from headquarters, I think they'll expect us to close
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 09, 2020, 03:19:53 PM
Our match v Wicklow is being streamed next Saturday on GAAGO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 09, 2020, 08:25:06 PM
This is a huge game, not a given by any stretch but very winnable if we can produce anywhere near our best. If we can get over the line in Wicklow I can't see Waterford denying us promotion. 4 great additions to the squad can only help competition for places too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2020, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 09, 2020, 08:25:06 PM
This is a huge game, not a given by any stretch but very winnable if we can produce anywhere near our best. If we can get over the line in Wicklow I can't see Waterford denying us promotion. 4 great additions to the squad can only help competition for places too!

Has a squad been finalised? Names?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2020, 10:52:40 AM
The core of the team remains the same with a few stepping out and a few notables re introduced. Mark Sweeney Kobo Paddy Mc Cormack and Ryan Murray being the notables...all will be pushing hard for a starting berth and that increases competition for places. Great to have them throwing their weight behind the push for promotion. You want your best players making themselves available.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2020, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 11, 2020, 10:52:40 AM
The core of the team remains the same with a few stepping out and a few notables re introduced. Mark Sweeney Kobo Paddy Mc Cormack and Ryan Murray being the notables...all will be pushing hard for a starting berth and that increases competition for places. Great to have them throwing their weight behind the push for promotion. You want your best players making themselves available.

Thanks Bannside, had a look at them today.... fingers crossed we have game to play next week and see where that puts us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2020, 01:31:39 PM
If we can bring two points home from Wicklow next Saturday we will be in the driving seat. This is a big game for us, hopefully our greater hunger to get our of this division will see us through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2020, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 11, 2020, 01:31:39 PM
If we can bring two points home from Wicklow next Saturday we will be in the driving seat. This is a big game for us, hopefully our greater hunger to get our of this division will see us through.

It's in their hands, would Waterford travel considering they are out of contention?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2020, 04:04:43 PM
Will worry about that MR about 1.45pm on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
was stuck for wordS today which rarely happens to me when a parent asked me why is the training off for 2 weeks and the bars are still open? ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 11, 2020, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
was stuck for wordS today which rarely happens to me when a parent asked me why is the training off for 2 weeks and the bars are still open? ::)

Not like u to be stuck for words. We could use this as a caption. My first post would have been ' they keep them open to pay the manager of the football team'  Your that predictable 😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2020, 10:41:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
was stuck for wordS today which rarely happens to me when a parent asked me why is the training off for 2 weeks and the bars are still open? ::)

Whole thing is wrong when that happens.. but needs must for some clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2020, 11:13:55 AM
Yes PJ. Pity, he has lots to offer! Good age too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 12, 2020, 01:10:01 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 12, 2020, 10:56:06 AM
BS has Ruairi Mc Cann Aghagallon left the squad

He was at training at the weekend as far as I know. Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2020, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 12, 2020, 01:10:01 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 12, 2020, 10:56:06 AM
BS has Ruairi Mc Cann Aghagallon left the squad

He was at training at the weekend as far as I know. Where did you hear this?

I thought I seen him there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2020, 05:18:34 PM
Ruairi must have rejoined / been recalled. Another excellent addition to the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
No truth in that at all Peter John. Both got other priorities atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 12, 2020, 05:25:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 12, 2020, 05:18:34 PM
Ruairi must have rejoined / been recalled. Another excellent addition to the squad.
So this morning you said he left and now he's back?? ;D He was always on it you rocket. You're not much of an In The Know that you claim to be
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2020, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 12, 2020, 05:25:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 12, 2020, 05:18:34 PM
Ruairi must have rejoined / been recalled. Another excellent addition to the squad.
So this morning you said he left and now he's back?? ;D He was always on it you rocket. You're not much of an In The Know that you claim to be

I'd say BS is probably more in the know than most of us tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2020, 07:08:37 PM
Theres two Ruairi Mc Canns lol. Both decent players tbf. I was thinking of the Creggan version. Lol. First rule, read the question properly!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 12, 2020, 07:38:38 PM
https://twitter.com/conorulster/status/1315662312527847424?s=24

As if 2020 hasn't taken the royal p*ss enough, stop the world and let me off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2020, 09:52:43 PM
Funny... I think it has the potential to be quite good. If the first two or three are good it could catch on alright. I hope it goes well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
I'll be listening!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2020, 11:14:37 PM
How to leave a county panel in 10 days... 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2020, 11:18:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2020, 11:14:37 PM
How to leave a county panel in 10 days... 😉

Both codes!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 13, 2020, 06:01:46 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 12, 2020, 07:38:38 PM
https://twitter.com/conorulster/status/1315662312527847424?s=24

As if 2020 hasn't taken the royal p*ss enough, stop the world and let me off

It'll be more entertaining than most of the GAA podcasts!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2020, 09:00:00 AM
Ah hi, he may not be mans cup of tea but at least he's trying. Would love to hear the brothers on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2020, 09:01:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 13, 2020, 09:00:00 AM
Ah hi, he may not be mans cup of tea but at least he's trying. Would love to hear the brothers on it.

I'm sure he'll have some chat with them or about them no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 13, 2020, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 13, 2020, 09:00:00 AM
Ah hi, he may not be mans cup of tea but at least he's trying. Would love to hear the brothers on it.

Not sure that would be the best idea, maybe brother would be a better one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 13, 2020, 10:00:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2020, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 13, 2020, 09:00:00 AM
Ah hi, he may not be mans cup of tea but at least he's trying. Would love to hear the brothers on it.

Not sure that would be the best idea, maybe brother would be a better one.

Yep
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 13, 2020, 12:04:42 PM
Casement Park getting the green light eventually with work to commence this year.. That's the rumours anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 13, 2020, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 13, 2020, 12:04:42 PM
Casement Park getting the green light eventually with work to commence this year.. That's the rumours anyway

Anyone any idea on the planning side of things is this it now settled? or is there room for the residents to appeal to another process?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2020, 12:44:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2020, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 13, 2020, 12:04:42 PM
Casement Park getting the green light eventually with work to commence this year.. That's the rumours anyway

Anyone any idea on the planning side of things is this it now settled? or is there room for the residents to appeal to another process?

As I understand it we are at the same point the residents took to court the last time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 13, 2020, 12:58:19 PM
It could go to another appeal again if the residents wanted to.

Im not sure if it would be upheld this time around as the size of it was reduced plus the decision was approved by an actual minister and not a civil servant like last time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on October 13, 2020, 04:06:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2020, 01:12:07 PM
Not that I disagree with you but we were previously at this stage after Environment Minister Mark H Durkan approved planning permission.

Yeah, it's basically December 2013 again, albeit with different plans. Absolutely no guarantee of a different outcome
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 13, 2020, 07:39:19 PM
Residents, or anyone else, still have the option of seeking to have the planning approval judicially reviewed. They have to take that action within 28 days. I would like to think that this time round the GAA and Dept have made sure everything procedurally has been done properly. A JR can only review the process, not the planning decision
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2020, 07:56:27 PM
If, and it's a big if, if this gets the go ahead and all parties are reasonably happy, it will create much needed jobs for the build and infrastructure around the place, will be madness heading to my parents house but hopefully that'll be well planned!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 13, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
Just don't go when there is a game or something else on. Its not like it will have a game etc every night and day. 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2020, 08:46:13 PM
A huge step in the right direction. Fingers crossed things run a lot more smoothly this time round. Two wins at the weekend would cap a great week for Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 13, 2020, 09:01:25 PM
How many would have been at Casement on the big games?

20, 000+???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 13, 2020, 10:41:13 PM
There were some memorable packed houses in the early noughties. Attacking football and Antrim in with a chance.  We've enough good players knocking around to see days like that again in the near future. There'll be good times ahead when we shake Covid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
Antrim is the sleeping giant of all the counties. With a team on the pitch producing the goods, we could have a huge support base. I'm very optimistic that Antrim Gaa has a bright future, albeit this could still be a decade or even a full generation off.

The work Sean Kelly and Saffron Gael in particular is playing an enormous role in developing the mindset amongst juveniles that Gaa is a big sport, culture, way of life. We have lost that battle to soccer in particular over the years, and with Gaelfast and schools  changing that, clubs putting greater emphasis on treating their juveniles right from an an early age, then I think we have a lot to look forward to.

Saffron Vision too played a huge role. Ulster and officials at Croke Park realised they were doing business with professionals who they could invest in. Its been a long hard road but the signposts are now pointing to a much better place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2020, 10:33:02 AM
 There is almost unlimited potential. I see it at football games from u12 - u18, the talent in our county is huge. Small things can lead to big things - getting out of Division 4 is so important I think. Not because the standard in Div 3 is exponentially higher than 4, but promotion would be a lcear demonstration to those younger players that we are on the right track.

Also, success begets success. Long term achievements are built bottom up but top down can help too. The relative success of our football team between 2009 - 2012 brought big numbers to our games. Remember the 2010 season when we got promoted from 3 to 2? The stand at Casement was full 30 mins before games started, we had around 15 - 20,000 in Clones and thousands in Tullamore and Thurles.

Not to put pressure on the squad (both squads) but this weekend's games are really important. Promotion to Div 3, consolidation of that position, promotion then to Div 2 in a season or two...these are seemingly small steps with huge promise. The same principle applies to our hurlers.

The physical building of a new stadium is its own statement. I hope that we see diggers on site early next year. That can be the top down source of inspiration too.

Big weekend ahead. Big years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 14, 2020, 10:45:38 AM
Do we know if the announcement by the Executive will effect the Ulster Minor Championship are they considered 'elite'?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 14, 2020, 11:04:11 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 14, 2020, 10:45:38 AM
Do we know if the announcement by the Executive will effect the Ulster Minor Championship are they considered 'elite'?

Currently regarded as elite as far as I am aware. However this could change given the current state of things around that age groups with schools etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 14, 2020, 11:05:32 AM
We had some big crowds back in the old casement. 1990 Antrim hurling final, some crowd at it that day

https://freeimage.host/i/2DnPFn
(https://iili.io/2DnPFn.jpg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2020, 11:42:43 AM
Do we know if the announcement by the Executive will effect the Ulster Minor Championship are they considered 'elite'?

Yes, considered elite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 15, 2020, 07:08:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2020, 07:56:27 PM
If, and it’s a big if, if this gets the go ahead and all parties are reasonably happy, it will create much needed jobs for the build and infrastructure around the place, will be madness heading to my parents house but hopefully that’ll be well planned!  :D

Hope your right MR2, the contract needs to be heavily structured with Social Value clauses to insure local supply teams are from the area get the work, you hear this all the time and the reality is very little goes to the local trades/ companies.. and our local politician's need to be on this to insure this happens!  Buckingham Group (lead contractor) are an english firm,  as this would be beyond Heron Bros on their own financially,  assuming also the 5 other bidders don't JR the project in relation to all the changes that have made with substantial  increased costs... so in short in my be some time yet before it starts...hopefully thats not the case, but theres not much construction work next year out there on the books for the big local firms that didn't win the original tender.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 15, 2020, 08:25:01 AM
BS any word on team news for the weekend? Should we expect any surprises?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2020, 08:56:26 AM
No word yet Asaffgael. The four returnees are all pressing hard for game time and thats increased the competition for starting places as well as places in the 24. Great position for Lenny to be in, no complacency, and everyone bursting a gut at training to impress. I cant remember a time when we had such a high percentage of our better players available. With the obvious exception of Matt Fitz and the peerless Mr Niblock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
See the county minor football panel on Antrim Twitter feed. 31 players...of which only 5 are from the city clubs. This is a very rare statistic, anyone know the reasoning behind it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
See the county minor football panel on Antrim Twitter feed. 31 players...of which only 5 are from the city clubs. This is a cery rare statistic, anyone know the reasoning behind it?

Same could be said about the lack of Loughgiel and Ballycastle players that made themselves available for minor hurling, considering they were both finalists!

Kids are strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: restorepride on October 15, 2020, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 13, 2020, 09:01:25 PM
How many would have been at Casement on the big games?

20, 000+???
The largest I remember was the 1992 Ulster football semi-final, Down (reigning All Ireland champions) and Doire.  I think that there was 34,000 at that match.  As I state that, I'm nearly questioning myself!  But definitely over 30,00.  Doire won but lost to Dún na nGall in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 09:05:19 PM
I've seen plenty full or near full houses at Casement, unfortunately not many had Antrim playing there.

I remember a McKenna cup final that was rammed too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2020, 09:21:12 PM
I remember we played McDermotts in an intermediate final and it was a full stadium. Must have been 40k at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 09:05:19 PM
I've seen plenty full or near full houses at Casement, unfortunately not many had Antrim playing there.

I remember a McKenna cup final that was rammed too

Ulster hurling finals early 90s had a right few at them though maybe just seating packed. Antrim Horne a couple of times in noughties and Antrim down one Saturday night had a load at it too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on October 15, 2020, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: restorepride on October 15, 2020, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 13, 2020, 09:01:25 PM
How many would have been at Casement on the big games?

20, 000+???
The largest I remember was the 1992 Ulster football semi-final, Down (reigning All Ireland champions) and Doire.  I think that there was 34,000 at that match.  As I state that, I'm nearly questioning myself!  But definitely over 30,00.  Doire won but lost to Dún na nGall in the final.

https://youtu.be/Grr0nPdeWtE

It was definitely the largest crowd I remember
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 10:32:18 PM
That be up there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2020, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
See the county minor football panel on Antrim Twitter feed. 31 players...of which only 5 are from the city clubs. This is a cery rare statistic, anyone know the reasoning behind it?

Same could be said about the lack of Loughgiel and Ballycastle players that made themselves available for minor hurling, considering they were both finalists!

Kids are strange

Be something to do with how that final ended. Ended up a trade with some cowardly strokes by some lads with the stick at the final whistle. No love between the two groups.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2020, 08:49:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2020, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
See the county minor football panel on Antrim Twitter feed. 31 players...of which only 5 are from the city clubs. This is a cery rare statistic, anyone know the reasoning behind it?

Same could be said about the lack of Loughgiel and Ballycastle players that made themselves available for minor hurling, considering they were both finalists!

Kids are strange

Be something to do with how that final ended. Ended up a trade with some cowardly strokes by some lads with the stick at the final whistle. No love between the two groups.

That may be the case, as I said, kids are strange. Playing for your county should be top of your list.. In Antrim (I'm sure there are other counties in same place) we view the club more important, is that because we win more as a club than a county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2020, 09:51:21 AM
Well why then is it more of  a priority for SW minors than SA minors to play for their county. Not many are winning stuff with their clubs (except Cargin who are very well represented on the panel). Are there lots of talented minors in SA who dont care, or were they at trials and not get picked? No matter what way you look at it, 5/31 is not a normal statistic for this age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2020, 10:05:42 AM
These are not normal times we live in either though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2020, 10:40:50 AM
to be honest playing football for Antrim isnt very high on most our young lads agendas. There's not been much if any representation from our club at County level in football over the last 30 years and interest in the County football team would be very very low in our parts.

I suppose with hurling being more popular football will always be second best to many in the club but there has been a lot of talented underage players come through the ranks. There was some ill feeling after how the minors were overlooked a few years ago but id still hope that we would get more lads into development squads but i dont think any of them have (maybe im wrong here??).

The underage numbers are there - we can field 2 U12 and U14 hurling teams - so theres plenty of young lads playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 16, 2020, 11:47:38 AM
That's a seriously strong bench for tomorrow.

Paddy Cunningham
Tomas McCann
Mick McCann
Paddy McBride
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 16, 2020, 04:04:20 PM
Wats the team ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
Jesus !! Wicklow are 11 up and we are all over the place! A black now as well!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 17, 2020, 01:12:02 PM
Five hand passes given away directly! A shambles so far!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2020, 01:17:01 PM
Not good :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 01:18:44 PM
Penalty was harsh, I wouldn't have given it the rest we've won no kick outs they've pressed up on short kick outs and we can't get past half way!

I can't even say our shot selection is poor, we've had no shots !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2020, 01:23:47 PM
We can fist pass round the middle third and that's it defense started well but too much pressure on them. There's no one in the full forward line most of the time. Literally no one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 01:27:18 PM
Can't see us getting back in if we continue as we are, with the wind behind us now I'd like to see more going forward. If the points on, take it, need to eat into the score line to get a bit closer..

Few subs made and hopefully a shake up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2020, 01:33:25 PM
Even to draw level requires probably too much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 17, 2020, 01:38:53 PM
Penalty was very harsh and put us on the back foot. Couple of poor shot selections as well. We actually look leggy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 17, 2020, 01:40:42 PM
Inexplicable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 17, 2020, 01:47:53 PM
And thats the end of that. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 17, 2020, 01:34:31 PM
Wonder what BS makes off it,brutal tbh,so much for promotion

I don't think this ends promotion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2020, 02:03:58 PM
Score difference won't be good now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 17, 2020, 02:11:00 PM
There is 10 goals in this for them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 17, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
No one expected that sort of tanking!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 03:29:13 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 17, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
No one expected that sort of tanking!

Not at all, so the question is how far ahead were Wicklow in their training prep leading into this game? or, how far behind were we? Wicklow have never given us a tanking like that before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 17, 2020, 03:37:24 PM
Something about the name Lenny today it seems in the management world!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 17, 2020, 03:55:02 PM
Not even the best PRO in the country could dress that one up.  Unacceptable score line for a county team, and to do it in Division 4.  They should drive straight home, no Apple Green takeaway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 17, 2020, 05:21:07 PM
What was the problem?

Too overconfident?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2020, 05:24:34 PM
Just not good enough. Too many small players - no outlets for direct passing. Too many guys unable to break tackles. Too much passing round the middle third. Couldn't win the ball in midfield. Antrim can never hold seance furlong either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 17, 2020, 06:17:06 PM
Was that the best team that started today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 17, 2020, 06:17:51 PM
Its a difficult result to fathom, totally against all previous form. Im totally gutted, can hardly speak to be honest, but until its mathematically impossible we dont give up. Lenny and his backroom team didnt deserve that, far too many players looked second rate, couldnt win a ball, couldnt keep a ball, couldnt pass a ball....and looked badly off the pace.

Im hearing a strong rumour that Wicklow kept their collective training going throughout lockdown...that may explain why they looked at c'ship pace and we still were in league mode.

Too many players living on reputations, many which took a nosedive today. I really cannot think of one player who can come off the pitch and say they played well. That needs to be taken into account before taking a pop at management.

A truly horrendous performance, no other way of putting that display today. Come on Carlow they are a point up atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Were boys sent off ? Or were they on the drinK last night ? That's a scundering
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 17, 2020, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 17, 2020, 06:17:06 PM
Was that the best team that started today?
OMG, Complete stuffing by Wicklow, an embarrassing hammering. No excuses, awful performance and this is lowest county league possible. Sadly no momentum from Casement announcement, can't blame Gaelfast, all counties suffer from covid issue etc so what next. We need to pick the best team and I'm not sure we are, a display like today's undoubtedly calls the management into question also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2020, 06:58:08 PM
On the management I would ask what way were we trying to play? We're we trying to work the ball through the middle third and try to eventually break at pace? It was just hard to understand as ball was just fist passed about and there wasn't anyone in the ff line at all. Midfield should have been changed too. Murray probably not a midfielder  and would have added something further up the field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2020, 07:02:29 PM
Our U20s competed well this season. The same manager has had Ulster Championship wins at minor level as well, would he not be a good option to start from scratch and try to build a team. Calling older lads back in has proved disastrous. Very disapointing not to see the likes of Adam Loughran start today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Were boys sent off ? Or were they on the drinK last night ? That's a scundering

On the drink?

You not watch it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Were boys sent off ? Or were they on the drinK last night ? That's a scundering

On the drink?

You not watch it?
no working Today. What's your explanation for that drubbing ? Bad referee ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 17, 2020, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2020, 07:02:29 PM
Our U20s competed well this season. The same manager has had Ulster Championship wins at minor level as well, would he not be a good option to start from scratch and try to build a team. Calling older lads back in has proved disastrous. Very disapointing not to see the likes of Adam Loughran start today.

Adam gave Kevin Quinn a roasting in the championship but Quinn started today and Adam is on the bench. Ruairi McCann must be injured because I can't understand how he's not starting ff for that team. Biased views but that is surely not the best team that Antrim can put out. A complete tanking by Wicklow. Wicklow ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 09:14:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Were boys sent off ? Or were they on the drinK last night ? That's a scundering

On the drink?

You not watch it?
no working Today. What's your explanation for that drubbing ? Bad referee ?

So your views on the game are nonsense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 09:20:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 09:14:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Were boys sent off ? Or were they on the drinK last night ? That's a scundering

On the drink?

You not watch it?
no working Today. What's your explanation for that drubbing ? Bad referee ?

So your views on the game are nonsense
yes that's why I'm looking for yours and otherS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2020, 09:40:21 PM
Yes that is true i remember the game at Corrigan this year. Paddy Cunningham a great player but id prefer to be building for the future with Pat Shivers / Loughran or someone similar. Note that Wicklow have a young manager 32 yrs old i think, won an All Ireland U20 title with Kildare. Thought they loooked physically stronger, faster, fitter all round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 18, 2020, 08:55:59 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2020, 09:40:21 PM
Yes that is true i remember the game at Corrigan this year. Paddy Cunningham a great player but id prefer to be building for the future with Pat Shivers / Loughran or someone similar. Note that Wicklow have a young manager 32 yrs old i think, won an All Ireland U20 title with Kildare. Thought they loooked physically stronger, faster, fitter all round.

So we go for a new young manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2020, 09:35:44 AM
doesnt have to be young just dont think current man has been a success at bringing young players through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2020, 09:40:21 PM
Yes that is true i remember the game at Corrigan this year. Paddy Cunningham a great player but id prefer to be building for the future with Pat Shivers / Loughran or someone similar. Note that Wicklow have a young manager 32 yrs old i think, won an All Ireland U20 title with Kildare. Thought they loooked physically stronger, faster, fitter all round.

In fairness to your first sentence, Paddy didn't start, he came on mid second half, scored cracking point with first kick.

If I could be bothered looking back over posts I would but I'm sure there was some posters asking for Lenny to bring back the better older players that were playing well in championship.

You can't then turn round when he does and complain!

We didn't get our heads up after the penalty!

We didn't win kick outs, we didn't put a tackle in we couldn't pass the ball or hold on to it. There was a direct line into our fb line that we couldany close. I'd say the first five minutes we were well on top, that was it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 10:05:44 AM
Most of the older players that were brought back weren't playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 10:05:44 AM
Most of the older players that were brought back weren't playing.

Injured by all accounts... we'd the best squad for a while and we'd a horror show. Can it go down as a blip?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2020, 10:16:07 AM
Thomas McCann, Kevin O Boyle, Mark Sweeney, Paddy Cunningham. Who else was there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 10:19:15 AM
Sweeney isn't  that old. McCann and Cunningham were subs were they not? Sweeney's reasons were living in Dublin not retirement. He's being picked in the Dublin best club 15 regularly apparently. You couldn't not pick that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 10:55:06 AM
Oh didn't realise he was that old. I don't think taking them back was a mistake at all. I think it had to be done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2020, 11:35:04 AM
I made the case for Sweeney here a while back, his presence was missed I thought when he pulled off the squad for work reasons.

Who wants to be a manager? If we had got promoted, bringing back the vastly experienced Mick PC Tomas Kobo & Sweeney would be hailed as a masterstroke. Up to 12. 45pm yesterday we ALL thought that was a very strong possibility. A day later and their are dissenting voices that this was the wrong tactic.

We are now depending on an unusual sequence of results. Today Limerick need to beat Wexford, and then ironically we need that same Wexford team to beat flying Wicklow next week. Highly unlikely albeit still mathematically possible. Especially as those two teams meet a week later in the Leinster championship, so if Wexford have nothing to play for league wise, are they likely to have enough motive to try stop the Wicklow promotion march?

Plus...we have to win our last game with a squad thats mentally in rags. Its definitely not the Sunday morning I was looking forward to (Celtic getting hammered didnt help also) but we should be careful not to beat up the players or the management. They will be feeling immense pain already.

As manager I was on the wrong end of a defeat like that, ironically in a county final, when Lenny was managing a St Galls team that ran riot. Its a lonely place and sometimes not deserving of a hammering like that after the work you put in. It can take a long time to recover. But thats football, it can be very cruel at times.

We are ALL hurting right now, time for cool heads and to wait and see what happens over the next few days and weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 18, 2020, 11:48:48 AM
FFS lads its Div4, theres no doubting the younger talent we have which he hasn't used really and had no intention of doing. He played safe with the older lads without at anytime really developing a significant balance within the squad of young and older heads in his tenure.  A man that has never really run club teams proper, except nipping in to that fantastic Galls side for the AI campaigns and then getting out and traded on it ever since for a nice package. From day 1 looking to get out of Div4, instead of implementing a structure that would have had those kids well bedded in and established then look to kick on and making no excuses and secret about it across the county with the fantastic PRO we have..  Prawn Sandwich brigade, MR2 i know he's your clubman but he's not up to the task has neither the experience nor knowledge to really carve out what would be a great side in time with that young talent we have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 01:21:41 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 18, 2020, 11:48:48 AM
FFS lads its Div4, theres no doubting the younger talent we have which he hasn't used really and had no intention of doing. He played safe with the older lads without at anytime really developing a significant balance within the squad of young and older heads in his tenure.  A man that has never really run club teams proper, except nipping in to that fantastic Galls side for the AI campaigns and then getting out and traded on it ever since for a nice package. From day 1 looking to get out of Div4, instead of implementing a structure that would have had those kids well bedded in and established then look to kick on and making no excuses and secret about it across the county with the fantastic PRO we have..  Prawn Sandwich brigade, MR2 i know he's your clubman but he's not up to the task has neither the experience nor knowledge to really carve out what would be a great side in time with that young talent we have.

Clubman or not the result was poor, worse than poor in fact. Managers/coaches/trainers all have to take responsibility, that comes with the job. But 15 fit strong players with plenty of experience took to the field and played well below their own standards.

This was a collective result, if you can't look at it like that then you're playing the man not the ball!!

3 years my be the  tender for  management now so after this year in championship we'll be able to put forward these brilliant managers that'll bring us out of the doldrums..  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2020, 04:53:59 PM
If Sligo beat Limerick next week, in Sligo....and we beat Waterford in Portglenone, then we still go up. We still have a chance albeit its no longer in our own hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: An Watcher on October 18, 2020, 05:53:22 PM
Yeah seen that although sligo have nothing to play for other than championship places
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2020, 06:02:06 PM
Limerick are away from home, after losing two on the trot. A fifty fifty game which could go either way. Yesterday was a disaster from an Antrim point of view, but whilst all is still mathematically possible we should get behind the management and players. Not sure what the reason was for such a flat display, but if Sligo can do us a big favour we can still have a smile on our face this time next week. Plenty of time for post mortems....this week is about getting things mentally back on track.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 06:50:40 PM
Just watching the Kildare team v Cavan....

The stand out thing is physically they are a massive unit..

Height strength and power, I've ref'd a right few games over the years so have seen our lot, we don't have that many big players, why is that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 18, 2020, 07:53:09 PM
A draw between Wexford and Wicklow and a win for us leaves us all on 9. Then it comes down to score difference which is where yesterday's mailing really screw us. Need Limerick to lose to Sligo. Who knows? But it shouldn't have come to this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2020, 08:34:36 PM
As long as Sligo beat Limerick and we beat Waterford Brendan it dosent matter who wins between Wicklow and Wexford....as long as its not a draw! Admittedly, thats a lot of ifs.

I understand why people want to let off steam against the management, but Lenny/Brendan/Fintan werent playing and neither was Roy Mc Larnon. The players need to take a lot of responsibility for a performance like that. That isn't acceptable in a Saffron jersey, and only they can respond in a manner that takes responsibility for it.

If we had lost by two or three I'd be searching for the analysis why we lost. But when its a margin of this size, its the players who have to put their hands up highest. Jesus man - there was hardly a proper tackle put in all day. Boys carrying balls into tackles and getting dispossessed. Players taking three or four hand to toes and bounces before moving the ball. Juvenile stuff. Now thats something the management can change.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 19, 2020, 03:29:31 AM
Hearing that good few players only left for Wicklow at 5am on day of the game. Surely if true this wouldn't have helped their performance. Still have a chance next week so need to row in behind them, won't help next weeks cause everyone getting on their backs. Surely we see a big reaction next week and hopefully Sligo can do us a favour
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
After a few days and reading a lot of the posts on here I have reflected and I think for me the problem is that too many of our players were still playing 'club' football i.e. seeking too much time on the ball, running into tackles whilst in possession, giving the opposition attack too much space etc etc.

Whilst the Antrim Championship is competitive and great entertainment I think using the lack of progress in Ulster of any Antrim Champions in the last 7-10 years as a yard stick I think we can all agree that Antrim football is in a developmental period, we are a Div 4 team at present for a reason i.e. we deserve to be there, why did so many think that we had a divine right to stroll down on Saturday and collect the points? Is this a mentality which has crept into the players minds? Has the chat made them believe that the job was done before boarding the coach? Some of the chat here about Wicklow has been at best disrespectful, maybe this is the wake up call fans and players a like needed.

Our Hurlers have been plodding away all year without the Superstar status and look what they have achieved, I think it is time for our footballers to have a good, long hard look at them selves and assess their own mentality. As for those calling for the management to go, as MR2 said there were so many on heralding their work earlier in the year and saying how we should have the more experienced players back for the last push over the line.................stop making fools out of yourselves lads by now spouting other nonsense.

Hopefully Saturday was the wake up call and the players get back to base camp ready to knuckle down and with a bit of luck we can be looking forward to Div 3 football next year

On a good news point I see two of our younger referees are making the step up referee in the Ulster Minor Championship this weekend, good luck Conall Roberts and Cathel McDermott
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
After a few days and reading a lot of the posts on here I have reflected and I think for me the problem is that too many of our players were still playing 'club' football i.e. seeking too much time on the ball, running into tackles whilst in possession, giving the opposition attack too much space etc etc.

Whilst the Antrim Championship is competitive and great entertainment I think using the lack of progress in Ulster of any Antrim Champions in the last 7-10 years as a yard stick I think we can all agree that Antrim football is in a developmental period, we are a Div 4 team at present for a reason i.e. we deserve to be there, why did so many think that we had a divine right to stroll down on Saturday and collect the points? Is this a mentality which has crept into the players minds? Has the chat made them believe that the job was done before boarding the coach? Some of the chat here about Wicklow has been at best disrespectful, maybe this is the wake up call fans and players a like needed.

Our Hurlers have been plodding away all year without the Superstar status and look what they have achieved, I think it is time for our footballers to have a good, long hard look at them selves and assess their own mentality. As for those calling for the management to go, as MR2 said there were so many on heralding their work earlier in the year and saying how we should have the more experienced players back for the last push over the line.................stop making fools out of yourselves lads by now spouting other nonsense.

Hopefully Saturday was the wake up call and the players get back to base camp ready to knuckle down and with a bit of luck we can be looking forward to Div 3 football next year

On a good news point I see two of our younger referees are making the step up referee in the Ulster Minor Championship this weekend, good luck Conall Roberts and Cathel McDermott

Quite possible one of the best posts I've seen on this and one that i fully agree with.

Id said once before on here about our club football not being strong - within Antrim its competitive but outside of that its not.

We haven't an Ulster club title since 2009 and haven't won a game in ulster since 2012. Our record in the County is of a poor standard as well with the max of two games a year the norm for ourselves now.

Antrim are literally where they need to be in terms of our football and the lowest tier isn't an insult to us.

Our hurling thought itself better than it was for years and until we caught on that we are where we deserved to be it was only then that they could start building again to try to get to the top league. Sunday past was a culmination of a lot of hard work and Div. 1 status has been hard earned by Antrim.

I asked the question a few pages back about any of our lads in the football development squads. I mean if a club our size that fields at every grade in football in Antrim hasn't got anyone involved in the County then you have to wonder what's been done to get the best players into the set ups when a club as big as ours and with the fatalities isn't even involved with the county at underage level at any great level?

A great debate got started by a Loughgiel hurler at the weekend online about the possibility of a football team in their club. Loughgiel is one of the largest Clubs in the county so something like this should be a real good thing for Antrim if it could be got going. They have more hurlers and camogiers than most clubs in Antrim do so how could it not be a great thing to have more footballers produced. The same applies with Ballycastle who do have a senior team but are trying to produce underage teams now as well. This is the untapped resources that need investing in.

Its not just about us but its more to do with what's being done to improve the game in the County when clearly we've been going no where for a long long time.

We seem to be doing the same thing and its broken. It needs repaired, not another band aid stuck over it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2020, 11:57:13 AM
Loughgiel had a team in the 80s did they not? I noticed in lockdown curly had photos on of a team of theirs playing a glenravel team (though maybe it was a friendly).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 12:26:31 PM
yeah it was just a charity game they had
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 19, 2020, 03:14:48 PM
Fair points there DR, but why aren't players from your club going to the development squads etc? Just enquiring. Coming from a solely football club here I know but when it comes round to putting names forward for different age groups it does come down to the player themselves whether they go or not. There does seem to be more of an effort by Antrim this last 5-6 years with the development squads to be fair. Maybe that will have an impact who knows but they play in the same competitions as all the other counties at U14 / U15 / U17 level so not much else they can do bar improve the coaching.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 03:46:07 PM
To be honest EOC theres no interest for it in our players. I wont lie, I'm not sure if we do have any lads at the development squads - we could do, I might be wrong. I just cant understand the lack of interest in our players for the last 20 odd years towards the county teams and vise versa.

I've tried to do my part in the back ground with other posters on here to get some of our lads to go to the senior set up at the start of the year but it didn't go through which was a pity as they were more than good enough to fit into the panel.

Even when we won two minors in three years we never had a player in the county panel, something of which was noted within our club as a severe lack of respect towards the players and what was being done to develop them.

I know why they weren't there, it was down to the then management feeling they weren't good enough and !for every 'A.N Other' ( I wont use the lads name) we have 4 more of him better". I mean why would the players waste their time to go to a County team if their management think they are nothing more than bog standard.

I'd love to see more of our lads at the set ups but they all see hurling as a better option as they will have a chance to get somewhere whereas with football they wont get a look in.

The best players are not always from the top clubs - See Antrim hurlers - Stephen Rooney, St Pauls, Joe Maskey St Endas, Niall McKenna, Sarsfields all starting and holding regular places in the team despite playing at Junior, Intermediate and only out of intermediate level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
And our current captain DR, Conor McCann ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2020, 06:32:16 PM
DR, I can see how Dunloy felt bad about poor representation on football panels, we touched base about that a few times, but for some reason or other, the players wouldnt (or couldnt) commit. But youre right, the county managers of those particular age groups should have been making enquiries, not you and me! If they were at those matches they would have seen quite clearly that a few Dunloy lads were county standard.

Back when I was involved in dev squads etc I had at least three Dunloy lads in the panel, and they could all hold their own at that level. The managers and selectors need to fling their net far and wide to see whats available.

If there is anyone you think is being badly overlooked, pm me. Sometimes all it takes is a phone call and a bit of common sense to sort these things out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 06:42:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2020, 06:32:16 PM
DR, I can see how Dunloy felt bad about poor representation on football panels, we touched base about that a few times, but for some reason or other, the players wouldnt (or couldnt) commit. But youre right, the county managers of those particular age groups should have been making enquiries, not you and me! If they were at those matches they would have seen quite clearly that a few Dunloy lads were county standard.

Back when I was involved in dev squads etc I had at least three Dunloy lads in the panel, and they could all hold their own at that level. The managers and selectors need to fling their net far and wide to see whats available.

If there is anyone you think is being badly overlooked, pm me. Sometimes all it takes is a phone call and a bit of common sense to sort these things out.


The clever thing is when a team such as Dunloy were dominating that age group and above you ask some of that Dunloy management to come on board as a selector, you don't leave the best players out, a great way to bring players on board is when there are friendly/familiar faces.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 19, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Not only overlooked the Dunloy players but a year later the 2019 Minor manager bemoaned the lack of representation from Dunloy in the paper even though intercounty was now U17 level meaning Dunloys players were basically either U18 of u19 by that stage if you catch my drift. I can see why that would be frustrating DR
Fair point there MR2 on asking a Dunloy man in at that point to encourage.
Hope to see this years minors put up a good show on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 19, 2020, 07:43:09 PM
I'll never forget when we had a college all star who was playing for Armagh minors. The Antrim management didn't even know about it or who the player was, made no enquiries about him or anything.  Could you imagine an Armagh minor with a college All star being allowed to play for Down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 07:57:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 19, 2020, 07:43:09 PM
I'll never forget when we had a college all star who was playing for Armagh minors. The Antrim management didn't even know about it or who the player was, made no enquiries about him or anything.  Could you imagine an Armagh minor with a college All star being allowed to play for Down.

Mate of mine got one of those school all stars in hurling, the shock on his face in the photo says it all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
And our current captain DR, Conor McCann ;)

My bad  ;D

Connors been a fantastic captain for Antrim and decent to the panel This last lot of years. A lot of other lads should look at his example as to how he works hard to keep his place despite hurling outside of senior level.

I've always believed you need to look outside of the top teams and with the utmost respect to lads, not have older lads brought back again.  There's no future whatsoever in that.

The lads are all great servants to Antrim over the years but bringing back older lads will fill a void for a year or so and then leave a massive gap there when they are gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2020, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
And our current captain DR, Conor McCann ;)

My bad  ;D

Connors been a fantastic captain for Antrim and decent to the panel This last lot of years. A lot of other lads should look at his example as to how he works hard to keep his place despite hurling outside of senior level.

I've always believed you need to look outside of the top teams and with the utmost respect to lads, not have older lads brought back again.  There's no future whatsoever in that.

The lads are all great servants to Antrim over the years but bringing back older lads will fill a void for a year or so and then leave a massive gap there when they are gone.

A wee nod to the big ball crew eh  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
The new manager (hopefully a SW man) will go with youth and prove us wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
It seems like we are going over well trodden ground, is it maybe the case that an inside man doesn't work for Antrim for the reason of player attraction, am
I right I'm thinking Baker was able to get out a good spread for all corners of the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
The new manager (hopefully a SW man) will go with youth and prove us wrong  ;)

Tied up with the camogie at the moment or I'd of been free for a go  8) :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
It seems like we are going over well trodden ground, is it maybe the case that an inside man doesn't work for Antrim for the reason of player attraction, am
I right I'm thinking Baker was able to get out a good spread for all corners of the county?

Gleason has done tremendous work, as did Dinny back in the day.... Baker was great too..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2020, 09:25:17 PM
Jody Gormley was awful.

Wasn't great
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2020, 09:31:25 PM
Lenny has put through 50 - 60 players in his three years to date, from all corners of the county. One thing he cant be accused of is neglect, or favouritism towards any particular region. In his first year he threw open the gate for anyone who wanted to trial. What more could he do than that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 09:38:08 PM
I would like to see the likes of an upcoming manager like Conleth Gilligan in with say the like of Paddy Bradley, young fresh management team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 09:39:35 PM
That's all you can do, but unfortunately some players tend to be drawn to big names and not so much the pride of the jersey, course that's unfair on lads that do play have that pride and felt dejected after that result.

I'll only remember defeats, worst loser out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2020, 09:53:54 PM
Yeah I don't really think the city country thing exists as a big issue any more. It definitely did in my lifetime but I don't see it now. We just suffer the same problem counties up and down the country suffer of players not wanting to commit as the commitment for county these days is a lot.

Saturday wasn't good but I wouldn't be on a mission to get rid of Lenny.  There are much deeper issues with our county and the current climate is not the best time to really truly judge anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2020, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 09:38:08 PM
I would like to see the likes of an upcoming manager like Conleth Gilligan in with say the like of Paddy Bradley, young fresh management team

Would be sore on the wallet that one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 19, 2020, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2020, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 09:38:08 PM
I would like to see the likes of an upcoming manager like Conleth Gilligan in with say the like of Paddy Bradley, young fresh management team

Would be sore on the wallet that one

Absolutely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 10:31:07 PM
Peter John, read the posts above about an outside voice getting the best men out in all codes

Not an attack on Antrim men, however thinking outside of the box

Oh and I did not say get shot of Lenny, read my posts and tell me where I did
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2020, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 19, 2020, 10:31:07 PM
Peter John, read the posts above about an outside voice getting the best men out in all codes

Not an attack on Antrim men, however thinking outside of the box

Oh and I did not say get shot of Lenny, read my posts and tell me where I did

Why don't those 2 men put their efforts into taking their clubs back to their glory days  ( or day in PBs case) ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2020, 08:18:59 AM
We need an Antrim man in the job. Don't care who he is aslong as he doesn't want paid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2020, 09:57:30 AM
Paddy worked with our lads for a few seasons and was a great coach. Good breathe of fresh air into the panel and the lads loved him.

His approach, the drills, how he handled everything plus he was really good to get along with and the players all respected him. Still keeps in regular contact with how our footballers are doing so despite not being there for a few years he's got a vested interest in the players and how they do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 10:56:36 AM
If we want to go with outsiders at least get someone who has managed teams at a high l;evel with success. We cannot afford to be taking risks. Gilligan has managed nobody of note. Bradley has managed a few senior club teams and has won nothing or even got to finals. DR no disrespect but someone fresh off county football like Bradley and going in to take sessions in Dunloy who aren't leaders in innovation at football would certainly be fresh to your players. It would be the same if it was reversed and your recent retired county men going to take hurling sessions in Glenullin.

We need a person with proven managerial experience. Gilligan as coach or Ronan Devlin who by all accounts from Cargin and our young players in Creggan who went through the Convent in Magherafelt at Mac Rory is highly respected. Probably need both coaches if we wanted a genuinely progressive management. Kevin Madden is our best placed inside man who has club and intercounty management experience.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 11:04:28 AM
DK can you honestly tell us that Madden is the best man for the job after watching the county final of a couple of years ago, Creggan didn't loose that game on the pitch they lost it on the line, no tactical noose at all to change a game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 11:04:28 AM
DK can you honestly tell us that Madden is the best man for the job after watching the county final of a couple of years ago, Creggan didn't loose that game on the pitch they lost it on the line, no tactical noose at all to change a game

Don't agree, our players were afraid to go for it, Cargin likewise. We had enough chances to overturn a one pt defeat. I can still see 3 frees that were sitters missed. Tomas Mc Cann wouldn't have missed them if Cargin had them. Inexperience cost us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 11:12:56 AM
There must have been clear instruction from the line to 'keep the ball', I have never seen a team a point down with a few minutes to go kicking a free from 40 yards another 20 yards backwards...................
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
The man we need is John McKeever. Professional as they come and had plenty of contacts and help at hand if ever required. Well thought of around Tyrone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2020, 11:51:47 AM
Lads its a bit disrespectful talking about potential managers when we have a manager in place. Should we get the two results we require on Saturday, then the main objective of the season will have been attained. If not, we have an Ulster championship match within a couple of weeks. Can't we at least show some restraint until this has passed and see how the rest of the season pans out. Plenty of time for post mortems and ideas then, but atm it is disruptive in a week where the management and players need to reboot asap for a big game in a few days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 04:42:40 PM
I think whilst Cassidy has a 'way' with him when he is managing Cargin I feel that he would be too divisive a character now to unite the County, his attitude to other teams, managers and officials within the county I feel would rule him out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 05:13:07 PM
"his attitude towards other teams managers and officials within the county" - what on earth are you talking about. What manager doesnt question officials? The part about the other teams managers please explain?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
CD, what are u watching. Been to many games involving Creggan V Cargin and most semifinal and finals the past few years. Can't say Cassidy is any different to any other manager. Really puzzling comment. Haven't heard a Creggan player say a word about him. He has a go at refs, but who unfortunately doesn't.  But would agree he is the stand out name by a distance. The family connection tells me he is in Cargin next season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 06:55:09 PM
I have also been to many games involving Cargin and many other teams, we have obviously been talking to different people as well as so many players and managers a like have told me he is nothing more than hateful, as for him and referees I would say the CCCC are kept busy with him, but DK as you point out Refs are fair game by the look of it and yes I know I have been guilty in the past of giving refs a hard time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 07:09:02 PM
Ask yourself how and why did his time with Clonoe end, and yes he did pretty well with them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2020, 07:20:12 PM
Look as a player manager supporter I'd be questioning decisions of referees, and as long as there's no real malice in it then it's fine and most refs would be understandable to the frustration, but there's a line that shouldn't be crossed and can't be waved off with comments like, sure we all have gripes with refs and blame them when we lose!

That filters on to the team and out to supporters.. Kids now are getting worse, worst I've seen in years, they would have had some respect but that's gone, and the only place they hear it from is their coaches/senior players and management.

DC is vocal I'll give him that, times he steps over the line, I believe he's trying to gain an advantage some how. On a football front he's proved his worth in Antrim, probably a few wins in Ulster would have been nice. Would he be interested?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 07:45:27 PM
Yes CD your comments about DC very disingenuous. Been at most of his games in charge of Cargin and never seen him interact with any other teams managers or players.
Clonoe fellow I used to work with had nothing but high praise for him also.
He will be on Cargins sideline again next year so no point discussing Antrim and him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 07:52:53 PM
I believe he was loved for a while I'm Clonoe however that came to a less than pleasant end! I have no doubt as to his will and capability to win along with the brain, Devlin!!

I have witnessed and been told of his conduct and his shouting at other managers and players warning up, but hey I am just making that up 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
Oh and his own Club Bellaghy didn't want him last year, wasn't that he when told Cargin he was not taking the position again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Bellaghy wouldnt want a man who recently won an Ulster Club Minor with them, so they went for John McKeever instead who has won zero at senior level lol lol.  You havent a clue, you seem to have a personal gripe. Best to let it go CD.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 08:23:14 PM
No personal gripe with the man, however I can dislike his conduct.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 20, 2020, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Bellaghy wouldnt want a man who recently won an Ulster Club Minor with them, so they went for John McKeever instead who has won zero at senior level lol lol.  You havent a clue, you seem to have a personal gripe. Best to let it go CD.

Yeah the same JMK others on here have been touting to be the next Antrim manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 08:44:42 PM
CD you have come across as very spiteful. Those defeats have really hurt you. Play the ball and not the man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 06:53:20 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Bellaghy wouldnt want a man who recently won an Ulster Club Minor with them, so they went for John McKeever instead who has won zero at senior level lol lol.  You havent a clue, you seem to have a personal gripe. Best to let it go CD.

Who was the manager that won the Ulster minor with Bellaghy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 06:53:20 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Bellaghy wouldnt want a man who recently won an Ulster Club Minor with them, so they went for John McKeever instead who has won zero at senior level lol lol.  You havent a clue, you seem to have a personal gripe. Best to let it go CD.

Who was the manager that won the Ulster minor with Bellaghy?

In asking the question it is clear you know the answer

I note the point of DC not committing to Cargin at the start of last season has not been either confirmed nor denied by the Cargin cheerleaders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 08:44:42 PM
CD you have come across as very spiteful. Those defeats have really hurt you. Play the ball and not the man.

Also please do forgive if I refuse to take chastisement from Cargin in relation to being spiteful, the irony is more than amusing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 08:25:13 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 06:53:20 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 20, 2020, 08:13:10 PM
Bellaghy wouldnt want a man who recently won an Ulster Club Minor with them, so they went for John McKeever instead who has won zero at senior level lol lol.  You havent a clue, you seem to have a personal gripe. Best to let it go CD.

Who was the manager that won the Ulster minor with Bellaghy?

In asking the question it is clear you know the answer

I note the point of DC not committing to Cargin at the start of last season has not been either confirmed nor denied by the Cargin cheerleaders

I don't know so that's why I asked the question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 21, 2020, 10:40:18 AM
Calm Down would be the equivalent to Norris from Coronation St in this group. Wouldnt let the truth get in the way of a good story or bit of gossip.

Any statement that contains "I heard", "players and managers told me" or "i have been told" followed by a stupid remark aimed towards an individual should just be totally disregarded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 21, 2020, 10:40:18 AM
Calm Down would be the equivalent to Norris from Coronation St in this group. Wouldnt let the truth get in the way of a good story or bit of gossip.

Any statement that contains "I heard", "players and managers told me" or "i have been told" followed by a stupid remark aimed towards an individual should just be totally disregarded.

Roger great to hear from you, you may also wish to pick up on the points where I have mentioned the issues which I have witnessed myself, also whilst we are not all privy to conversations a lot of evidential fact is procured via hearsay of certain conversations and experiences shared from others

Anyway, will let you get back to Coronation Street, clearly a big fan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 21, 2020, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 08:44:42 PM
CD you have come across as very spiteful. Those defeats have really hurt you. Play the ball and not the man.

Also please do forgive if I refuse to take chastisement from Cargin in relation to being spiteful, the irony is more than amusing

I live in Creggan  :o, and I certainly won't be backing you, another Creggan man, with your spiteful one man assassination. You bring shame to our club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 12:01:32 PM
Oh no, what will I do without the support of DK?? This is why we are behind Cargin bootlicking attitudes like yours, too nice as a team too nice as a club, bow down and hand them another fecking County Title why don't you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 12:01:32 PM
Oh no, what will I do without the support of DK?? This is why we are behind Cargin bootlicking attitudes like yours, too nice as a team too nice as a club, bow down and hand them another fecking County Title why don't you

So who was the Bellaghy manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2020, 12:48:42 PM
Kieran Glackin with Frankie Donnelly assisting. Did a great job with that Bellaghy minor team, winning the St Pauls tournament.. Kieran is along with JMK at Bellaghy seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 12:58:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2020, 12:48:42 PM
Kieran Glackin with Frankie Donnelly assisting. Did a great job with that Bellaghy minor team, winning the St Pauls tournament.. Kieran is along with JMK at Bellaghy seniors.

Thanks BS.. Glackin is JMKs bro in law or am I totally wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2020, 01:05:53 PM
Correct PaddyJohn...Kieran is married to Johns sister.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 21, 2020, 01:07:13 PM
Bellaghy minor manager when they won ulster? I thought Damian was along the line along with K Glackin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
Actually didnt know DC was involved in that management team. Fair play so, more silverware to add to his impressive CV.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 21, 2020, 01:05:53 PM
Correct PaddyJohn...Kieran is married to Johns sister.

Thanks for clearing that up BS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2020, 01:30:04 PM
i think that cassidy had a major influence in that team. I've never seen an underage side so organised in terms of defensive setup. It was a senior setup for under 18s. (They had some great footballers too but were very well setup)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 21, 2020, 01:34:47 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/u-20-and-minor-inter-county-competitions-paused-until-further-notice-from-tomorr/
Minor and u20 competitons have been paused
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 21, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 20, 2020, 08:44:42 PM
CD you have come across as very spiteful. Those defeats have really hurt you. Play the ball and not the man.

Also please do forgive if I refuse to take chastisement from Cargin in relation to being spiteful, the irony is more than amusing

I think your statements regading Cargin being spiteful and your comments on DC's conduct with clubs to date, gives us an insight that you may have an anti Cargin agenda. Unfortunately for your club, since Mickey Moran took the reigns, your club/ contributors have spent the guts of a £200k on management teams that have all failed to win a C'Ship. Id be concentrating more on my own club if i were you that being fixated on your neighbours and how their management conduct themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 02:55:58 PM
Cargin agenda? I think not, however your mini psycho analysis of me falls a little short of the mark, however I suppose the amateur dramatics come from your life of watching Coronation Street

We are not the only club to have spent money and not won a championship. You have failed to mention what club you are affiliated with Roger? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 21, 2020, 04:26:35 PM
im on here as an antrim gael and to discuss things without looking through tinted glasses. I, like you have opinions on individuals, clubs etc... but iv realised from being on here, this board reflects the good and bad within antrim. The latter outweighing the good alot of the time. So as last while, havnt been engaging on things club related as it ends up a slegging match

To be fair, though i havnt always agreed with them and have been involved in banter with them, BS, MR2, DR and DK are usually fair and reasonable with some of their views and consistent when talking about all things saffron. Where alot of people on here are purely fixated on ruffling feathers of other clubs.

Il take back my Norris comment if you come out and tell the truth that you hate Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 04:47:37 PM
I do not take offence at the Norris comment, therefore no need for a retraction.

I do not have a Cargin agenda (however I do believe that their siege mentality is one of the things that enhances their drive) and perhaps my comments on DC could have been a little more refined in the manner they were delivered, however I promise to be a better Gael on how I speak to other thread members and to engage in a more meaningful and constructive manner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2020, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 04:47:37 PM
I do not take offence at the Norris comment, therefore no need for a retraction.

I do not have a Cargin agenda (however I do believe that their siege mentality is one of the things that enhances their drive) and perhaps my comments on DC could have been a little more refined in the manner they were delivered, however I promise to be a better Gael on how I speak to other thread members and to engage in a more meaningful and constructive manner

There ya go... I hate that the SW are ruining the football championship lately, even PG1 are beating Belfast teams for fun!

Anyways, all eyes for the Waterford game, can not slip up that one, especially if the other teams do us a favour, it would be horrendous !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 04:57:06 PM
Really we shouldn't be having a go at any one person or club. I like to keep it a general city thing 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
Agreed, however we must not take the local parish and any other rivalry disappear from our games even if we do offend the odd sole from time to time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
Agreed, however we must not take the local parish and any other rivalry disappear from our games even if we do offend the odd sole from time to time

Off course we shouldn't but there is a line and I feel it's been crossed a few times on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 07:03:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
Agreed, however we must not take the local parish and any other rivalry disappear from our games even if we do offend the odd sole from time to time

Off course we shouldn't but there is a line and I feel it's been crossed a few times on here.

For that I am not willing to be the scapegoat for everyone else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 07:03:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
Agreed, however we must not take the local parish and any other rivalry disappear from our games even if we do offend the odd sole from time to time

Off course we shouldn't but there is a line and I feel it's been crossed a few times on here.

For that I am not willing to be the scapegoat for everyone else

And I'd never accuse you of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 10:37:52 PM
https://www.wlrfm.com/2020/10/21/several-waterford-footballers-unwilling-to-travel-for-antrim-clash/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2020, 10:44:15 PM
This was talked about last week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2020, 10:44:15 PM
This was talked about last week

Sorry pal.. don't be red carding me now..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2020, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2020, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2020, 10:44:15 PM
This was talked about last week

Sorry pal.. don't be red carding me now..

Not on here in fairness so just a yellow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 22, 2020, 08:44:58 AM
Fixture conceded by Waterford;

https://www.wlrfm.com/2020/10/22/waterford-footballers-concede-antrim-game/ (https://www.wlrfm.com/2020/10/22/waterford-footballers-concede-antrim-game/)


Doesn't bode well for the upcoming championships.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
14 day quarantine with their work from travelling to the north  :(

We're like lepers up here lol.

Not good. The whole thing needs called off.

How do you combat the likes of that work thing? You would need to play all the games down south.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2020, 09:23:17 AM
the past few fixtures being conceded will see other games go that way. To try and continue with matches now is just pure folly.

We cant say its an 'elite sport' when we are armatures. We don't get continued testing done as its only done in the event of someone actually getting it and by that stage its too late.

Im all for our games to continue but not at the expense of lads getting the virus
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 22, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
14 day quarantine with their work from travelling to the north  :(

We're like lepers up here lol.

Not good. The whole thing needs called off.

How do you combat the likes of that work thing? You would need to play all the games down south.

From reading that I took it that it was being invoked by some employers outside of the guidelines. There is no stipulation to do so by law.
They also were using Ballymena as an excuse as if it is any worse or better than comparable towns in the South.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 22, 2020, 09:38:44 AM
Lads we have to look at the reality of it, Waterford have nothing to play for in the league, they can't go up nor down.

When it comes to Championship do we really think that teams with a good crack at Silverware are going to concede. Even if the 'lesser' teams do concede to the like of say Dublin what difference is this really to any Leinster championship match, they steam role them anyway and the province, that however opens up a whole different debate.

I think we have to accept this year is fraught with the unknown, however if we have 25 teams willing to give us a championship so be it, I would rather keep our audience and have a GAA feel good factor to some degree than loose young souls to the relentless drive of the EPL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 22, 2020, 09:42:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
14 day quarantine with their work from travelling to the north  :(

We're like lepers up here lol.

Not good. The whole thing needs called off.

How do you combat the likes of that work thing? You would need to play all the games down south.

If true, an absolute disgrace but it should be noted that this was a secondary complaint from them after the thinly veiled jibe that they wanted Antrim to come and meet them halfway to play at a neutral venue, which was rightly refused.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 22, 2020, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2020, 09:42:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 22, 2020, 09:07:27 AM
14 day quarantine with their work from travelling to the north  :(

We're like lepers up here lol.

Not good. The whole thing needs called off.

How do you combat the likes of that work thing? You would need to play all the games down south.

If true, an absolute disgrace but it should be noted that this was a secondary complaint from them after the thinly veiled jibe that they wanted Antrim to come and meet them halfway to play at a neutral venue, which was rightly refused.

A poor statement by Waterford IMO.

No issue with any team not feeling comfortable at the minute and not fielding a game, especially a meaningless one for them. However, don't try and push the blame towards the opposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2020, 09:55:20 AM
had a good read through it as well and its a very poor statement. They would be better deleting that as its an embarrassment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 22, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
It is a statement full of waffle and spin. Embarrassing is right. It doesn't help us either, we would have wanted Sligo going into their match believing promotion was still possible for them. They know it isn't now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2020, 10:26:35 AM
Not to impressed with statement, trying to suggest Antrim are complicit in it as well for not agreeing to a neutral venue. The bit that sticks out for me is the reference to Northern Ireland instead of Ulster. West brit language. Do they not realise the GAA is a 32 county association.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 22, 2020, 10:29:51 AM
There's enough wrong with the statement without bringing that into it. The COVID issue in urgent is clearly exacerbated by having two jurisdictions on the island. Michelle and Arlene agent setting policy in Donegal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 22, 2020, 10:31:07 AM
Alongside Covid concerns, it's a cost saving exercise - 3 buses required for 2 day trip, over night stay for 35 , cost approx £7k, for a dead rubber match for Waterford !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 22, 2020, 10:41:52 AM
It's 3.5 hours on empty roads. No need for hotels at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 22, 2020, 11:07:46 AM
Load of tents up in the Falls Park, Black hacs taking them to and fro the match, £3 return!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
No surprised and Waterford were waiting on Croke park to make it easy for them, it didnt happen so they have constructed a statement about employers and the like, a bit like Leitrim did against Down...

The employers would be leaving themselves wide open with statements like that too...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 22, 2020, 02:50:58 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2020, 10:26:35 AM
Not to impressed with statement, trying to suggest Antrim are complicit in it as well for not agreeing to a neutral venue. The bit that sticks out for me is the reference to Northern Ireland instead of Ulster. West brit language. Do they not realise the GAA is a 32 county association.
The National Draw is now for 26 counties also.. Are we being ostracised again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 22, 2020, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on October 22, 2020, 02:50:58 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2020, 10:26:35 AM
Not to impressed with statement, trying to suggest Antrim are complicit in it as well for not agreeing to a neutral venue. The bit that sticks out for me is the reference to Northern Ireland instead of Ulster. West brit language. Do they not realise the GAA is a 32 county association.
The National Draw is now for 26 counties also.. Are we being ostracised again
Take it down from the mast. Haven't even The wit to change the name of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 22, 2020, 10:02:16 PM
Antrim have offered to play in Dundalk !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2020, 10:06:53 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 22, 2020, 10:02:16 PM
Antrim have offered to play in Dundalk !

Like what the f**k!! After the statement they gave I'd have moved the game to Ballycastle!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: restorepride on October 22, 2020, 10:10:51 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 22, 2020, 10:26:35 AM
Not to impressed with statement, trying to suggest Antrim are complicit in it as well for not agreeing to a neutral venue. The bit that sticks out for me is the reference to Northern Ireland instead of Ulster. West brit language. Do they not realise the GAA is a 32 county association.
I agree totally - and rest assured that there are many Waterford Gaels with whom this does not rest easy.  I would have expected better from Port Láirge. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2020, 09:40:23 AM
Well done Antrim in calling their bluff. Really disappointed in the language and attitude shown by the Waterford county board. I would doubt this sits well with the majority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2020, 11:08:07 AM
apparently Waterford have accepted our offer and will play the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2020, 11:13:20 AM
Just to add to the farce that is going on our senior camogs have to give up home advantage against Carlow now and play it in Monaghan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2020, 11:28:18 AM
That is ridiculous and hardly makes you feel like we are a 32 county organisation >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 23, 2020, 12:33:59 PM
Not football but a related topic - Antrims camogs now have to play Carlow in Iniskeen, Monaghan instead of a home venue - wtffffffff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 23, 2020, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 23, 2020, 12:33:59 PM
Not football but a related topic - Antrims camogs now have to play Carlow in Iniskeen, Monaghan instead of a home venue - wtffffffff

Made all the more ridiculous by the fact that Monaghan has one of the highest R numbers in the South
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on October 23, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
Hopefully Carlow and Waterford get beat out the gate. Reflects really badly on both counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 23, 2020, 06:55:08 PM
I would expect to see a good few changes in the half back, mf and half forward lines for tomorrow's game. Has to be. Personally couldn't understand why he took Tomas McCann off, ball never crossed the half way line first half, then he gets hooked ten minutes into the second half after scoring from the first few balls that got the length of the pitch. Baffling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 23, 2020, 08:03:57 PM
Was it perhaps the fact that goose was cooked at that point last week and he was keeping Tomas wrapped up to avoid injury for tomorrow when it is win or bust?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 08:54:31 PM
Dont think so- if they were thinking that scientifically on the day they wouldnt of been been beaten by so much. I wish our Seniors good luck tomorrow anyway, bit of luck in that other game as well and could sneak up a division. Cant argue with that if it happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 23, 2020, 08:58:55 PM
I would honestly like to think it was just one of those days but honestly as per my previous posts I think the team began to believe their own hype, a massive this to earth last week, get the job done to tomorrow and hope for a massive slice of luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2020, 09:13:30 PM
Exactly men. Theyre out representing all of us and apart from a very poor "blip" last week were putting in a good shift up to that. Only thing we can do is wish everyone involved the best of luck tomorrow and in the next few weeks as we await the winners of Monaghan and Cavan.

Lenny and co can only say and do so much. At 2pm tomorrow the players need to make their own statement. I've no doubt they will.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 09:35:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 08:54:31 PM
Dont think so- if they were thinking that scientifically on the day they wouldnt of been been beaten by so much. I wish our Seniors good luck tomorrow anyway, bit of luck in that other game as well and could sneak up a division. Cant argue with that if it happens.

The players exempt on their performance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 09:52:19 PM
We were discussing why tomas was taken off. Players dont decide things like that. You are very touchy about Lenny
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 09:52:19 PM
We were discussing why tomas was taken off. Players dont decide things like that. You are very touchy about Lenny

Did I bring Lenny into this? It's a simple question, either you answer it or not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 10:03:34 PM
Of course players arent exempt but the buck stops with the manager. In saying that I havent a clue why you are asking this? I repeat we were discussing why tomas was taken off and dissecting that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 10:03:34 PM
Of course players arent exempt but the buck stops with the manager. In saying that I havent a clue why you are asking this? I repeat we were discussing why tomas was taken off and dissecting that.

We were 30 points down, keeping him on would have achieved what? We used all our allocation of subs, is it ok to take off certain players or should they stay on?

After that performance (as this is an Antrim thread talking about Antrim football) no one should escape criticism
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 23, 2020, 10:19:38 PM
It was all positive until the grim reaper arrived.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 24, 2020, 02:43:29 PM
Limerick beating Sligo out the gate  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 24, 2020, 03:44:01 PM
Limerick win by 3 - disastrous
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2020, 03:48:11 PM
Our own performance was a lot better today. Unfortunately Sligo couldnt get the other result we needed.....once again we narrowly miss out on promotion for the third year in a row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 24, 2020, 04:09:33 PM
Some difference in the Wicklow team and Waterford. Physically and tactically
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 24, 2020, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 24, 2020, 04:09:33 PM
Some difference in the Wicklow team and Waterford. Physically and tactically

Night and day. So pedestrian Waterford were today, no dnagerous player, nothing

Gutted again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2020, 04:50:47 PM
Another league another post mortem? Is it the case we just do not have the players, the physicality or indeed the 'professionalism' within the county to progress? Is Div 4 the level we are at without radical change?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
I blame the county board, management, players and whoever else I can think of.

It's over, we can't go back. Let's focus on the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2020, 05:07:14 PM
I'd say with the strength of football in SW it's time for a SW manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2020, 05:15:31 PM
SW manager for possibly the first time in history. Thats a big statement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2020, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 24, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
I blame the county board, management, players and whoever else I can think of.

It's over, we can't go back. Let's focus on the championship.

Whilst I agree apportioning blame will not solve anything if we do not learn from what is keeping us in Div 4 then there is no point in even thinking about championship! As Carl Sagan said to understand the present and plan for the future we must understand our past
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 24, 2020, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 24, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
I blame the county board, management, players and whoever else I can think of.

It's over, we can't go back. Let's focus on the championship.

Whilst I agree apportioning blame will not solve anything if we do not learn from what is keeping us in Div 4 then there is no point in even thinking about championship! As Carl Sagan said to understand the present and plan for the future we must understand our past
GAelfast have been researching all that for 2/3 years now so they should have all that soon...and maybe a plan :o :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 24, 2020, 07:20:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 24, 2020, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 24, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
I blame the county board, management, players and whoever else I can think of.

It's over, we can't go back. Let's focus on the championship.

Whilst I agree apportioning blame will not solve anything if we do not learn from what is keeping us in Div 4 then there is no point in even thinking about championship! As Carl Sagan said to understand the present and plan for the future we must understand our past
GAelfast have been researching all that for 2/3 years now so they should have all that soon...and maybe a plan :o :o :o

Anybody ever think that Antrim, regardless of manager etc. , just aren't good enough.

League never lies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 24, 2020, 08:04:48 PM
Mick McCann completely dictated that 2nd half today. Quality. Watched it again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2020, 08:20:09 PM
I would tend to agree. There is no blame here. That position is probably reflective of where we are. It's not like Wicklow only beat us - they were on another level.

Minors win infrequently, under 21s too. Granted that's in Ulster where most teams are at a much higher level but still. Division three on a good year and division four more often than not is where we are.

We do produce some real quality from time to time though. Mick McCann an example of that. I would have high hopes for Shivers too as I think he can be that kind of level.

That's not being defeatist. I have watched Antrim all my life and am very happy when we win games but more often than not that does not happen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on October 24, 2020, 09:21:40 PM
It was good to get the win today and I give the team credit for that but truth be told that was a very poor Waterford team and they where in the game until the last 15 minutes or so .We have been in D4 for a while now, all be it we have narrowly missed promotion the last few years and when we go up we only manage a year or two before we go back down so D4 is our level and unless we do something radical to change the standard of footballer we produce we are going to stay in this division. I think it is time to stop blaming managers and county boards and anybody else we can find to blame because they can't make D3 or D2 footballers from a county that simply hasn't got them.If Mick,Tomas and Paddy C had not of been playing today I think Waterford would have won today ! we still rely on these older player to beat poor teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 24, 2020, 10:41:06 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on October 24, 2020, 09:21:40 PM
It was good to get the win today and I give the team credit for that but truth be told that was a very poor Waterford team and they where in the game until the last 15 minutes or so .We have been in D4 for a while now, all be it we have narrowly missed promotion the last few years and when we go up we only manage a year or two before we go back down so D4 is our level and unless we do something radical to change the standard of footballer we produce we are going to stay in this division. I think it is time to stop blaming managers and county boards and anybody else we can find to blame because they can't make D3 or D2 footballers from a county that simply hasn't got them.If Mick,Tomas and Paddy C had not of been playing today I think Waterford would have won today ! we still rely on these older player to beat poor teams.

I think the above 2 posts are 100% the most sensible I've read on here
Every county thinks they're better than what they are
But as erinsboy said they're div 4 as while for a reason
Lets get them reasons ironed out
Not blame lenny or the players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 24, 2020, 11:04:48 PM
Its hugely frustrating to look forward to another year in the basement. I think we are better than that. Point lost in Sligo and a home draw to Carlow were the most costly days this year; taking last Saturday as an unexplainable blip.

So next year Louth and Leitrim will be down in 4, both beatable, and we have beaten both in recent times. Wexford you suspect will improve, Carlow too. It will be very hard to finish top 2.

'Sack' the manager? and what...who coming in will make a massive difference? What players aren't playing who should be? None except Matt Fitzpatrick.

Continuity I think is a valuable commodity here. Lenny and his team will have learned with each season. Lets put the lessons to work for next year,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 25, 2020, 07:44:57 AM
We're clearly not better than basement level Brendan. Currently or the previous 2 seasons. Could pick out close calls in this this game or that but over 3 seasons we are a division 4 team on merit. I said this last week but why was likes of Adam Loughran not given a run out yesterday, would of been great experience for him, we have to build on youth, check out Derrys young lineup since the league re-started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 08:37:43 AM
So we should go for youth now?

I'm all for that, get rid of the oldies and should get out of div 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 25, 2020, 08:51:44 AM
Sense the sarcasm there MR2. Maybe in 3 r 4 years we would get out of Division 4 with a sustainable team. Whats 3-4 years when you look at the last 30 or 40.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 25, 2020, 08:51:44 AM
Sense the sarcasm there MR2. Maybe in 3 r 4 years we would get out of Division 4 with a sustainable team. Whats 3-4 years when you look at the last 30 or 40.

It's all ifs buts and maybes

Let  the managers, whoever they may be, pick the best team available to them, not everyone wants to commit to county training, pre season is a slog and no one really sees the time and effort players put in.

It's hard prep to get to a standard physically that we need to be at, be as fit as we should, obviously have ball playing abilities! For whatever reasons we don't really have that type. Club football is (Or should be) a big level below county standards, we need to find players with a mindset who'll commit whole heartily, so much easier to do when you've a decent team. I just do see the commitment lads have for their club than they do for their county.

I could be wrong and apologies to some if I am, but I'm basing it on watching those other counties, at times, they die with their boots on, on that pitch and it shows.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 25, 2020, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: marty34 on October 24, 2020, 07:20:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 24, 2020, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 24, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
I blame the county board, management, players and whoever else I can think of.

It's over, we can't go back. Let's focus on the championship.

Whilst I agree apportioning blame will not solve anything if we do not learn from what is keeping us in Div 4 then there is no point in even thinking about championship! As Carl Sagan said to understand the present and plan for the future we must understand our past
GAelfast have been researching all that for 2/3 years now so they should have all that soon...and maybe a plan :o :o :o

Anybody ever think that Antrim, regardless of manager etc. , just aren't good enough.

League never lies.

As I said, they're in Div. 4 for a reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
surely if you cant get promotion after 3 tries you resign and u haVe given it your best shot ............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 02:57:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
surely if you cant get promotion after 3 tries you resign and u haVe given it your best shot ............

I wouldn't be so tough on the players. We'll need some of them next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 02:57:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
surely if you cant get promotion after 3 tries you resign and u haVe given it your best shot ............

I wouldn't be so tough on the players. We'll need some of them next year
I mean the manager of course - no blame on hiM but after 3 years give someone else a go - Lennie is a good antrim gael
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 02:57:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
surely if you cant get promotion after 3 tries you resign and u haVe given it your best shot ............

I wouldn't be so tough on the players. We'll need some of them next year
I mean the manager of course - no blame on hiM but after 3 years give someone else a go - Lennie is a good antrim gael

I was being sarcastic  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2020, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

Any of them playing last week?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

A question for you, in all your time coaching have you produced one senior intercounty player? remember be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

Discussion or repetition?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

A question for you, in all your time coaching have you produced one senior intercounty player? remember be honest.
Yes 2 for over the years - noT a big figure but a contribution since you asked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

A question for you, in all your time coaching have you produced one senior intercounty player? remember be honest.
Yes 2 for over the years - noT a big figure but a contribution since you asked

We've been div 4 for many years, dipped our toes into div3, we as clubs and county are not producing players good enough for div 3 football.  So begs the question, is our coaching right at club level and are our coaches doing the right things?

Is there a uniform approach required across all clubs to implement at the all ages? This would need to be monitored to help gauge the effectiveness of the coaching, I believe every club is great at doing the 'fundemental' coaching but under 12 up where are we going wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

A question for you, in all your time coaching have you produced one senior intercounty player? remember be honest.
Yes 2 for over the years - noT a big figure but a contribution since you asked
well done!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

A question for you, in all your time coaching have you produced one senior intercounty player? remember be honest.
Yes 2 for over the years - noT a big figure but a contribution since you asked

We've been div 4 for many years, dipped our toes into div3, we as clubs and county are not producing players good enough for div 3 football.  So begs the question, is our coaching right at club level and are our coaches doing the right things?

Is there a uniform approach required across all clubs to implement at the all ages? This would need to be monitored to help gauge the effectiveness of the coaching, I believe every club is great at doing the 'fundemental' coaching but under 12 up where are we going wrong?

I thought that was fairly obvious to all. Creggan at u16 and minor level would have played Lavey and Bellaghy at these age groups over the past ten years and have usually taken a thumping. The reason is coaching. You don't know what you don't know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2020, 02:57:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 26, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:19:23 AM
We are where we are because we deserve to be there. We've not been consistent enough to get out of div 4. There's no point in pinning blame on players or management.

Gaelfast may work and over time start producing results, I certainly hope it does as another poster said, we've not been competitive enough at minor and Un21s. Clearly there is an argument that not enough of our lads are playing college football, Lenny can't change that. He's played the hand he's been dealt. I agree with taking back a few of the older hands to help the cause this season and it worked to a certain extent.

Instead of spouting on here about clubs and things that don't concern you, why not out your shoulder to the wheel and help.
IVe been coaching kids for 20 plus years - dicussion boards are for spouting - the clue is in the name...discussion!

A question for you, in all your time coaching have you produced one senior intercounty player? remember be honest.
Yes 2 for over the years - noT a big figure but a contribution since you asked

We've been div 4 for many years, dipped our toes into div3, we as clubs and county are not producing players good enough for div 3 football.  So begs the question, is our coaching right at club level and are our coaches doing the right things?

Is there a uniform approach required across all clubs to implement at the all ages? This would need to be monitored to help gauge the effectiveness of the coaching, I believe every club is great at doing the 'fundemental' coaching but under 12 up where are we going wrong?

The last thing I am going to do is to comment on coaches in clubs, their ways and means etc, don't want to be on the naughty seat again  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 26, 2020, 03:00:32 PM
Not ating enough spuds and using the stretching machine enough!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2020, 03:12:27 PM
To be fair a lot of clubs are still producing quality players. Creggan, Moneyglass, Cargin, Aghagallon have all had plenty of players recently who have been key players in Macrory Cup teams. St Ronans Lurgan won it with 5 r 6 Aghagallon men starting about 2 years ago. St Pats Maghera, St Marys Magherafelt Macrory teams aren't easy to get on and the other clubs named regularly have players starting there.
Why are the Belfast schools like St Marys CBS and La Salle not in the Macrory cup (maybe they are?), there is numerous former Antrim players teaching in both places. This would be a massive help. I am sure Gaelfast are pushing this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2020, 03:48:17 PM
You could be right. Could maybe form a small part of wider strategy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2020, 03:51:38 PM
Gets you exposure to a much higher standard of football. I still believe that st galls having so many of their players playing sigerson really brought them on a lot too playing at that higher level.

It needs to be over a prolonged period of time though. We'd boys on county panels who weren't making the likes of st pats maghera mcrory teams though they would have been half decent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 26, 2020, 06:05:31 PM
County Louth 14 day incidence per 100,000 is 299.5.  Makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 27, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 24, 2020, 11:04:48 PM
Its hugely frustrating to look forward to another year in the basement. I think we are better than that. Point lost in Sligo and a home draw to Carlow were the most costly days this year; taking last Saturday as an unexplainable blip.

So next year Louth and Leitrim will be down in 4, both beatable, and we have beaten both in recent times. Wexford you suspect will improve, Carlow too. It will be very hard to finish top 2.

'Sack' the manager? and what...who coming in will make a massive difference? What players aren't playing who should be? None except Matt Fitzpatrick.

Continuity I think is a valuable commodity here. Lenny and his team will have learned with each season. Lets put the lessons to work for next year,
Lenny is a huge part to blame for the downfall of the senior teams as of recently, the way he sets his stall with 13 men behind the ball playing a hugely defensive system against teams like Wicklow is purely unacceptable. he has a crop of talent that has came through the ranks and is reluctant to use them and revert to players who are a few years by their sell-buy date. need to refocus with a manager with a clear strategy and a total organizational reform. Players that need to be given a chance in an attacking system that Antrim can actually put scores on the board. the quality is there. Management, not so much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 27, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 24, 2020, 11:04:48 PM
Its hugely frustrating to look forward to another year in the basement. I think we are better than that. Point lost in Sligo and a home draw to Carlow were the most costly days this year; taking last Saturday as an unexplainable blip.

So next year Louth and Leitrim will be down in 4, both beatable, and we have beaten both in recent times. Wexford you suspect will improve, Carlow too. It will be very hard to finish top 2.

'Sack' the manager? and what...who coming in will make a massive difference? What players aren't playing who should be? None except Matt Fitzpatrick.

Continuity I think is a valuable commodity here. Lenny and his team will have learned with each season. Lets put the lessons to work for next year,
Lenny is a huge part to blame for the downfall of the senior teams as of recently, the way he sets his stall with 13 men behind the ball playing a hugely defensive system against teams like Wicklow is purely unacceptable. he has a crop of talent that has came through the ranks and is reluctant to use them and revert to players who are a few years by their sell-buy date. need to refocus with a manager with a clear strategy and a total organizational reform. Players that need to be given a chance in an attacking system that Antrim can actually put scores on the board. the quality is there. Management, not so much.

What's the background team like in Antrim?

I'm glad you were not of the opinion we needed to bring back our better players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on October 27, 2020, 08:41:32 PM
I can't say I agree with any of antrimman comments ,the players past there sell by date are who?  Michael McCann was the best player on the pitch against Waterford Paddy Cuningham scored almost every time he had the ball ! Who are these young talented players that Lenny has waiting on the sideline? We played with 13 men behind the ball against Wicklow and they still run through the middle or our defence and scored  7 goals( it could have been 10 ) .We need to wake up and realise we don't have the talent in our county at present. Just look at other counties around us that are playing in higher divisions they all have at least a few top quality players .We don't have them and i think there is alot of reasons why ,college football being one but I think from a younger age in other counties players are taking football more serious and are conditioning themselves and changing there life stiles to make sure they are at the top of there game and they have a real desire to play for there county.In Antrim football is just a bit of fun and doing well with club can be the height of a lads dream.I do believe there is other talent in the county that don't make themselves available but I don't know of any that would make much difference to what Lenny already has .Pat Shivers ,Ruairi McCann Creggan and Adam loughran should be in that team but for one reason or another aren't. And there in could be the crux of the problem in most counties players really want to play for there county ,and do the work to get onto the panel that isn't the case in Antrim and playing for Antrim is not a priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2020, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: referee on October 27, 2020, 10:47:56 PM
I can't buy into this argument that one off the problems is not playing macrory cup football,derry have plenty of players that played macrory cup,they are in div3,Donegal don't have macrory cup but are still one off the top 6 teams in ireland

They've won All Ireland's and league 1 winners and a load of Ulster championships, they have been poor lately but better than us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2020, 07:19:06 AM
Do Donegal not have a very high standard of vocational schools? Fair observation though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 28, 2020, 08:25:58 AM
Derrys have went through a lean spell at county level for whatever reason. The quality players are still being produced every year, just look at Bellaghy and Lavey minors recently for example.
Macrory not the be all and end all but more teams and players playing in it would only help, wouldnt hinder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on October 28, 2020, 09:53:26 AM
Giving you an insiders view of Derry. We have struggled recently and dropped divisions, due to poor players and thats why we went to D3, but also we had a v poor manager who took us to D4, that could have been avoided. About 15 yrs ago I noticed a concerted effort from clubs to up the anti in their coaching standards and the amount of time given to it and I think Derry county are now starting to see the rewards at senior level. Glen won 4 ulster minors, Bellaghy & Lavey have to. Our county minor and u20 teams started winning Ulster championships as well. Last season we had schools in the final of the McLarnon and MacRory. So a very healthy picture. Out senior team is young and Gallagher is bringing through a lot of youth. I would like him to be more attractive going forward. I think our future is bright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 28, 2020, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on October 27, 2020, 08:41:32 PM
I can't say I agree with any of antrimman comments ,the players past there sell by date are who?  Michael McCann was the best player on the pitch against Waterford Paddy Cuningham scored almost every time he had the ball ! Who are these young talented players that Lenny has waiting on the sideline? We played with 13 men behind the ball against Wicklow and they still run through the middle or our defence and scored  7 goals( it could have been 10 ) .We need to wake up and realise we don't have the talent in our county at present. Just look at other counties around us that are playing in higher divisions they all have at least a few top quality players .We don't have them and i think there is alot of reasons why ,college football being one but I think from a younger age in other counties players are taking football more serious and are conditioning themselves and changing there life stiles to make sure they are at the top of there game and they have a real desire to play for there county.In Antrim football is just a bit of fun and doing well with club can be the height of a lads dream.I do believe there is other talent in the county that don't make themselves available but I don't know of any that would make much difference to what Lenny already has .Pat Shivers ,Ruairi McCann Creggan and Adam loughran should be in that team but for one reason or another aren't. And there in could be the crux of the problem in most counties players really want to play for there county ,and do the work to get onto the panel that isn't the case in Antrim and playing for Antrim is not a priority.
Some of what you say makes sense, Michael is an exception as far as I'm concerned as he has proven to do it against the best opposition in the country. Paddy Cunningham, yes was good at the weekend against Waterford, but I'm sure a Pat Shivers/Ruari mcCann(Aghagallon)/Eamon Fyfe/Conor Small/Odhran Eastwood could have given the same performance, yet not given the opportunity.
If we cant build a young team that can beat the Waterfords, The Wexfords this would be more beneficial to Antrim in the future.
Lets not forget, Recent Minor/U20 teams have beaten Donegal. Competed with Tyrone and Beaten Armagh at u17 level. the talent IS there.
Yet the old Antrim way applies, Rely on the old guard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2020, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 28, 2020, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on October 27, 2020, 08:41:32 PM
I can't say I agree with any of antrimman comments ,the players past there sell by date are who?  Michael McCann was the best player on the pitch against Waterford Paddy Cuningham scored almost every time he had the ball ! Who are these young talented players that Lenny has waiting on the sideline? We played with 13 men behind the ball against Wicklow and they still run through the middle or our defence and scored  7 goals( it could have been 10 ) .We need to wake up and realise we don't have the talent in our county at present. Just look at other counties around us that are playing in higher divisions they all have at least a few top quality players .We don't have them and i think there is alot of reasons why ,college football being one but I think from a younger age in other counties players are taking football more serious and are conditioning themselves and changing there life stiles to make sure they are at the top of there game and they have a real desire to play for there county.In Antrim football is just a bit of fun and doing well with club can be the height of a lads dream.I do believe there is other talent in the county that don't make themselves available but I don't know of any that would make much difference to what Lenny already has .Pat Shivers ,Ruairi McCann Creggan and Adam loughran should be in that team but for one reason or another aren't. And there in could be the crux of the problem in most counties players really want to play for there county ,and do the work to get onto the panel that isn't the case in Antrim and playing for Antrim is not a priority.
Some of what you say makes sense, Michael is an exception as far as I'm concerned as he has proven to do it against the best opposition in the country. Paddy Cunningham, yes was good at the weekend against Waterford, but I'm sure a Pat Shivers/Ruari mcCann(Aghagallon)/Eamon Fyfe/Conor Small/Odhran Eastwood could have given the same performance, yet not given the opportunity.
If we cant build a young team that can beat the Waterfords, The Wexfords this would be more beneficial to Antrim in the future.
Lets not forget, Recent Minor/U20 teams have beaten Donegal. Competed with Tyrone and Beaten Armagh at u17 level. the talent IS there.
Yet the old Antrim way applies, Rely on the old guard.

The old guard only came in this season! When some people wanted to see the 'old guard' as they were playing the best football on the club scene..

Very strange post tbf.... I think the players you mentioned there bar Shivers are playing or on the panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 28, 2020, 11:35:35 AM
Very strange post tbf.... I think the players you mentioned there bar Shivers are playing or on the panel

They are on the panel, and Pat Shivers is only one year out of minor, he is very young and no doubt will feature in near future.

One more point this campaign, i.e drawing with Sligo instead of losing by 1, or beating Carlow rather than settling for draw after we drew level.....either scenario would have seen us promoted this campaign. In that case there would be no talk of old guard v new crop, new manager needed etc. It would have been job done, that was a successful campaign, lets look to Championship with confidence.

Thats how fine the margins are.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 28, 2020, 11:56:24 AM
I am almost sure Lenny was going after this season regardless of promotion or not. I'm sure that was his position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on October 28, 2020, 01:01:52 PM
That was my understanding as well DK. If we are looking a new manager then the bare minimum that candidate must possess is recent intercounty experience and a good club record.

That leaves us with only two options within the county - Cassidy or Madden.
Cassidy staying at cargin by all accounts and madden likely to be still with Tyrone.

So if we go external do we go after someone like Tony McEntee?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 28, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
Won't happen. CB won't loosen the purse strings for that one. Did Aidan O'Rourke not have a master plan a few years back right down to development squads that was shot down and the CB went for a cheap option?

On the county team, I think Lenny done right going back to get them seasoned players as they are the best we have in quality. If Mick and Paddy C are still performing at a top level why should a younger person automatically deserve the right to play. Perform in training and when you get your chance and earn your place.

If Lenny goes, is there any other in county options?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 28, 2020, 03:00:39 PM
Has Lenny left?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 28, 2020, 07:07:32 PM
No PaddyJohn. Its two weeks to our championship and Lenny will be in charge as normal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 28, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
Brendan I can tell you are loyal to the cause and I wont fault you for that, but why would would we look ahead to a likely championship meeting with Div1 team Monaghan with confidence?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 28, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 28, 2020, 07:07:32 PM
No PaddyJohn. Its two weeks to our championship and Lenny will be in charge as normal.

Thought he had packed it in going by the board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 29, 2020, 07:18:03 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on October 28, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
Won't happen. CB won't loosen the purse strings for that one. Did Aidan O'Rourke not have a master plan a few years back right down to development squads that was shot down and the CB went for a cheap option?

On the county team, I think Lenny done right going back to get them seasoned players as they are the best we have in quality. If Mick and Paddy C are still performing at a top level why should a younger person automatically deserve the right to play. Perform in training and when you get your chance and earn your place.

If Lenny goes, is there any other in county options?

Agree re the older players....they're the best we have  so who cares if they're 32 or 22, play them.

We need them next year if we've any chance of getting out of a Division 4 with Louth, Wexford, Carlow, Sligo and Leitrim.....all of whom are capable of causing us problems on any given day.

I Fear we could remain in Div 4 for the foreseeable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 29, 2020, 09:06:49 AM
Can I ask a question here maybe DK may know, In our County training ground Dunsilly, is there any proposal for floodlights being put into place? It would be great for winter training for development squads. Great facilities up there, but not enough pitches in the county are floodlit. This is where Tyrone and Derry/Armagh could also have an advantage, as a good number of clubs particularly in Tyrone are floodlit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 29, 2020, 10:00:32 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 29, 2020, 09:06:49 AM
Can I ask a question here maybe DK may know, In our County training ground Dunsilly, is there any proposal for floodlights being put into place? It would be great for winter training for development squads. Great facilities up there, but not enough pitches in the county are floodlit. This is where Tyrone and Derry/Armagh could also have an advantage, as a good number of clubs particularly in Tyrone are floodlit.

I think you might be a bit mislead by his name, he is not actually the incumbent Regal Leader of Dunsilly, I am not actually sure if he is Cargin, Creggan, Whitehill or even St Enda's, alas this is the digital world we live in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 29, 2020, 10:00:37 AM
Are the columns not there for the flood lights?

I cant see the original planning application on line as it only goes back to 2010 so i dont know what was approved but Id assume that when it was done that was on the plans.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 29, 2020, 11:00:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 28, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
Brendan I can tell you are loyal to the cause and I wont fault you for that, but why would would we look ahead to a likely championship meeting with Div1 team Monaghan with confidence?

Well they are now a Div 2 team and I didn't actually say that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 29, 2020, 11:14:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2020, 10:00:37 AM
Are the columns not there for the flood lights?

I cant see the original planning application on line as it only goes back to 2010 so i dont know what was approved but Id assume that when it was done that was on the plans.
Yeah I thought that the last time I was up there, was there not enough funding at the time to input the floodlights?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 29, 2020, 01:37:29 PM
Was there not some issue about be too close to the M2 for lighting ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 29, 2020, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 29, 2020, 11:00:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 28, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
Brendan I can tell you are loyal to the cause and I wont fault you for that, but why would would we look ahead to a likely championship meeting with Div1 team Monaghan with confidence?

Well they are now a Div 2 team and I didn't actually say that.

They are still Division 1..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 29, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 29, 2020, 01:37:29 PM
Was there not some issue about be too close to the M2 for lighting ?

I know that when your wanting flood lights in any sports area you need to get a light pollution drawing done that shows the full spread of the light and if it will affect local housing etc. I cant see the lights being a problem for the M2 as its far enough away from it.

Id say its just down to the cash at the moment. Would be a great asset to the County going forth if we could get them in place.

That and another set of toilets on the pitch side of the set up would be a good help. Enjoyed watching the games at Dunsilly this year and its good viewing on that hill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 29, 2020, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on October 29, 2020, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 29, 2020, 11:00:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 28, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
Brendan I can tell you are loyal to the cause and I wont fault you for that, but why would would we look ahead to a likely championship meeting with Div1 team Monaghan with confidence?

Well they are now a Div 2 team and I didn't actually say that.

They are still Division 1..

🤦‍♂️ My mistake
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Cavan it is. 70 minutes football. Anything is possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2020, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Cavan it is. 70 minutes football. Anything is possible.
Youd have been happier with Cavan before today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 31, 2020, 04:04:10 PM
prob end up regretting this, but I think we've a shout against Cavan, that was their big performance, over 100 mins in the legs and a week turn around, we've a punchers chance alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2020, 09:46:14 AM
Two words: Physical conditioning, if nothing else will be enough to beat Us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 02, 2020, 01:09:21 PM
All teams at the weekend were well conditioned agreed, one other thing I couldn't help notice was that other counties had no problem playing younger players. Daragh Canavan (Tyrone), Oisin Gallen (Donegal), Ethan Doherty, Paul Cassidy (Derry). All no more than 19/20. Would love to see Antrims best youth thrown in there like that. 2-3 of our decent U20s team would be starting this Saturday if we were looking ahead to the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
I'd say Saturday night isnt the time to be thinking about certain Antrim players futures. Maybe best leaving that until the Mc Kenna cup or the next panel, bring half a dozen of them into the squad and let them fight for their places. Not saying some of them arnt good enough, but let them go into the existing mix and let them prove it. They will get their chance if they are good enough.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2020, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 02, 2020, 01:09:21 PM
All teams at the weekend were well conditioned agreed, one other thing I couldn't help notice was that other counties had no problem playing younger players. Daragh Canavan (Tyrone), Oisin Gallen (Donegal), Ethan Doherty, Paul Cassidy (Derry). All no more than 19/20. Would love to see Antrims best youth thrown in there like that. 2-3 of our decent U20s team would be starting this Saturday if we were looking ahead to the future.

I've ref'd a right few games and by your own words all teams were well conditioned, by the same token these lads that are well conditioned are young, as I look around the county we've maybe one lad at that age would be physically conditioned...

We don't have them, and unless they start conditioning at school age, as they are going elsewhere around the country we'll be left behind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2020, 09:36:57 AM
Good point MR. I would go a step further and say that the vast majority of inter county players would have been benefitting from structured strength and conditioning programmes in their schools from about 14/15 and upwards. Thats is, in a properly fitted out modern school gymnasium....or by arrangement eith a local gym owner.

They go from there to their clubs who more than likely also have this provision in place.

If that player goes through a county development squad process from 15 -18 all players S&C needs will be catered for or overseen by a designated S&C professional who will co ordinate and oversee individual player conditioning needs.

THATS 3 VERY PROMINENT OPPORTUNITIES that currently exist in other counties, for any player aspiring to play at the top level. I wonder how many current Antrim senior players managed to avail of that same opportunity during the key stages of their physical development years.

What annoys me far more than anything is that af least there is a joined up approach to these key aspects of player development in other counties. But sadly, no such policy exists in Antrim. If Ciaran Mc Cavanagh is remotely serious about developing football in the county, he will oversee the implementarion of a structured plan for football. You can be absolutely 100% guaranteed that there is one in place for hurling.

Thats right....there is a director of hurling in place....but not for football!  This in itself is a disgrace and must become an absolute priority if Antrim are to make any form of tangible progress in the coming years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 03, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
Just noticed last night a podcast with the director of hurling on Saffcast. As you say complete disgrace there isn't a similar structure in football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 04, 2020, 11:41:14 AM
Make or Break for Lenny this weekend guys? Or do you think he deserves another year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2020, 11:56:20 AM
I think like others have said this was as long as he was going to stay anyway?

Cavan are a funny one. I don't think we should be frightened of them. We have a much better chance than we would have had against Monaghan imo. Cavan still strong favourites mind you.

Yeah as people say I think our conditioning is quite far away from what "top" county teams have. I don't think Cavan would be as far advanced as some either as they seem to have a lot of churn in players and things like conditioning are helped massively by continuity in squads and management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 04, 2020, 01:10:37 PM
Any teams news yet? Do we expect any surprises?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 03, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
Just noticed last night a podcast with the director of hurling on Saffcast. As you say complete disgrace there isn't a similar structure in football.

Listened to it myself and i was wondering if there was a similar set up within the football set up? From listening to Neal the S&C will be involved with the football or did i pick that up wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2020, 01:59:11 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 03, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
Just noticed last night a podcast with the director of hurling on Saffcast. As you say complete disgrace there isn't a similar structure in football.

Listened to it myself and i was wondering if there was a similar set up within the football set up? From listening to Neal the S&C will be involved with the football or did i pick that up wrong?

The teams were doing all S&C all year anyways. Is this going to be a collective pre season thing ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2020, 02:46:06 PM
Some good hurling people in Antrim have rightly got together and put decent structures in place that lead to leaving Antrim hurling in a much better place. Its backed by county management committee all the way and funded where possible, with added financial involvement of corporate (or personal) generosity. Fair play indeed to everyone involved in this worthwhile initiative and hopefully our hurlers grow from strength to strength.

Is it too much to ask for a level playing field for football so that it can begin to put 50 years in the sporting wilderness behind it and look forward with optimism?

To be very honest this is something that should have been put in place long before now, and whilst the men behind Saffron Vision got through a lot of quality work, unfortunately they failed miserably to provide any meaningful strategy for county football at all.

This should now be priority number one for our current county management committee...or at the very least appoint a relevant sub committee of football people to make their own recomendations on the way ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2020, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2020, 02:46:06 PM
Some good hurling people in Antrim have rightly got together and put decent structures in place that lead to leaving Antrim hurling in a much better place. Its backed by county management committee all the way and funded where possible, with added financial involvement of corporate (or personal) generosity. Fair play indeed to everyone involved in this worthwhile initiative and hopefully our hurlers grow from strength to strength.

Is it too much to ask for a level playing field for football so that it can begin to put 50 years in the sporting wilderness behind it and look forward with optimism?

To be very honest this is something that should have been put in place long before now, and whilst the men behind Saffron Vision got through a lot of quality work, unfortunately they failed miserably to provide any meaningful strategy for county football at all.

This should now be priority number one for our current county management committee...or at the very least appoint a relevant sub committee of football people to make their own recomendations on the way ahead.

Is the answer to your question not already in your statement?

where are same said football men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2020, 03:29:16 PM
There are plenty of good football men Nag. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2020, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2020, 03:29:16 PM
There are plenty of good football men Nag. Why do you ask?

I am just wondering why these plenty of good football men havent done the same as the hurling lads did a number of years ago?

Genuine question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2020, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2020, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2020, 03:29:16 PM
There are plenty of good football men Nag. Why do you ask?

I am just wondering why these plenty of good football men havent done the same as the hurling lads did a number of years ago?

Genuine question.

I've no idea how its done but lets say there is a benefactor that is willing to put together a package that will allow them to put in place the right men and set up required to produce a successful team, now there are plenty of clubs that have done this, some have been successful with that and some not so much.

If behind the Antrim set up there is someone doing that, then its not the county's call I'd say, if the benefactor is only prepared to do it for the hurling team then is that wrong and should we not accept it?

Again I've no idea if that is the case.

The counties budget will be the same for each team, anything that comes in from an outside person will go to that team can't be helped, as NAG said, some great Antrim football men out there who could, if they want, put up the same package that would certainly give it a boost..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2020, 05:06:16 PM
Thats a fair question Nag. To be very honest I sincerely thought the last admin might have had some positive ideas on the subject, but obviously they didnt!

To their credit some forward thinking people from the hurling community decided themselves do get their own ball rolling. Maybe that all started from two or three people having  a conversation. Sometimes thats all it takes. A couple like Tony Shivers and a couple of the Mc Keagues can get a lot done.

Another admin set up is now in place, and we can only hope they open their eyes and see how much of a priority this now is. Quite frankly they need to acknowledge this without further delay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 04, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
What are the hurlers doing and what are the structures they have in place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 05, 2020, 08:59:13 AM
Are there any dual players who play for the county in both codes recently? Can't think of any but would be interesting to hear their view on the difference between the set-ups. (possibly Stephen Beatie but don't think he has been kicking ball for the county this year).

It's probably not as straightforward as saying both codes should get equal financial backing as the two are in different places at the minute, but you would expect the footballers are getting properly backed. Is this not the case recently? Or what amount of money will make a noticeable impact? And where will this come from? Genuine questions.

We need a big picture approach to football development including a Director (or sub committee) to oversee the progression. It's also important the next manager has Antrim's best interest at heart and is not just there to make a name for himself then move on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2020, 09:09:55 AM
I would also say that the hurlers are up and down and this is a good year whereas last year wasn't. If what the hurlers are doing is to be deemed successful then IMO it would take a few consistent years before you could say that.

Definitely going in the right direction but it is one year.(Not to be negative - I think there is huge potential in there if everyone is pulling in the right direction).

I can't think of dual players offhand. It would have to be St Johns / Rossa / St Galls. I imagine Nugent was probably our last dual player? (Though could be wrong). The ones I remember are Nugent, Herrons, I would say McGourtys but I don't think any of them played for the footballers and hurlers at the same time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2020, 09:09:55 AM
I would also say that the hurlers are up and down and this is a good year whereas last year wasn't. If what the hurlers are doing is to be deemed successful then IMO it would take a few consistent years before you could say that.

Definitely going in the right direction but it is one year.(Not to be negative - I think there is huge potential in there if everyone is pulling in the right direction).

I can't think of dual players offhand. It would have to be St Johns / Rossa / St Galls. I imagine Nugent was probably our last dual player? (Though could be wrong). The ones I remember are Nugent, Herrons, I would say McGourtys but I don't think any of them played for the footballers and hurlers at the same time.

Michael Armstrong most notable dual player at same time recently and could be again if injury free

Burkey played both for a period and CJ would have, but as you say not many at the same time, huge commitment.

Unfair to say the hurlers had a bad year last year as that is the most competitive division and championship I've seen for a while, every team has a chance of beating each other at time and that's been the case since its been introduced. This year we've had that run, which was in us, and we've been able to put together back to back results..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 05, 2020, 06:50:30 PM
Whilst no one will be more disappointed than Lenny that to date promotion to Div 3 has not been achieved during his tenure, I dont think he would hold up lack of finance as the reason. All the basic expenses were covered and players rightly had access to just about anything (within reason) that they needed.
So to be clear, this isnt a rant about that. In any event I dont think throwing a large pot of money at a problem is guaranteed to fix it anyway.

A far bigger priority is agreeing the formation of some kind of body or group to oversee the deliverance of a multi faceted programme that should facilitate any ambition that we aspire to. If thats a decade off, so be it,  but at least the seeds would be sown.

Much of the good work in hurling is going on quietly behind the scenes. Neil Peden (director of hurling) has a support structure he knows he can rely on. He has been tasked with overseeing a programme in the knowledge that if it hits its key targets, it will receive all the financial support it needs. The businessmen behind it will readily go that far if necessary.....because they have access to that vision...possibly even helped to shape it...and have confidence that it can be delivered. They are buying in.

Sadly there remains no vision for football. No plan. No director of football or sub committee. No joined up programme. Whos coaching the coaches and allowing them to share and participate in a vision?  Who is sourcing the elite players that we really need to be investing in?  Who is overseeing their S&C requirements? Who is tasked with selling a vision to half a dozen backers?

The answer is....no one. And it gets even worse.

IF Lenny steps down this weekend, or the match after that, who is tasked to find his replacement? Who will be qualified to evaluate the necessary credentials. What is the process. Is there even a process? Does it go to the clubs? Should it go to the clubs? Do the clubs even actually care?

Antrim Football is a mile away from where it needs to be.....but let us be brutally honest....entrenched in Div 4 is exactly where it deserves to be! It has been let down by county management committee time after time, year after year.

Please can someone within the present regime stand up and make a case for football.  Because if they don't we will still be having this conversation in another 10 years.

Or just forget about Casement Pk until we have a plan to put out a football team there that will do that project justice and attract a proper crowd to support it. Imagine a fine stadium like that and all the young lads walking past it saying who wants to play for that rubbish outfit!!

Surely thats a far bigger priority...because without pride there is nothing!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..

Is hurling not very different in that it is only played seriously by a few counties whereas football is taken serious enough by most counties. The divisions in football would be a lot more competitive than the hurling divisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 05, 2020, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..

Is hurling not very different in that it is only played seriously by a few counties whereas football is taken serious enough by most counties. The divisions in football would be a lot more competitive than the hurling divisions.

Define taken seriously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..

Is hurling not very different in that it is only played seriously by a few counties whereas football is taken serious enough by most counties. The divisions in football would be a lot more competitive than the hurling divisions.

Seriously? So we take Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal out of the mix, who's taking it seriously in the other counties?

That's a serious question
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2020, 05:47:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..

Is hurling not very different in that it is only played seriously by a few counties whereas football is taken serious enough by most counties. The divisions in football would be a lot more competitive than the hurling divisions.

Seriously? So we take Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal out of the mix, who's taking it seriously in the other counties?

That's a serious question

Maybe the phrase 'taking it seriously' wasn't the best way to word that but I had always thought, in terms of playing numbers and clubs, Gaelic football is the most popular, especially in Ulster, Leinster and Connaught. Maybe 7 counties would have hurling as their number 1 sport and then another 3/4 would have an even split (Galway for example) The thing that hurling seems to have done well, is put all the teams of equal ability together.

Back to my original question though, what is the hurling doing so well? Are they winning at underage? What are these structures that they have in place that the footballers don't? I heard this at a match last year as well and asked what the hurlers are doing differently and no one knew. It seems to be a big secret. I'm assuming they're getting more money pumped in? Are they getting access to better coaches and training methods?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 06:37:52 AM
There would be a support group led by a couple of influential businessmen who are helping to bring Antrim hurling forward. For sure they also have a long road to travel, but they are getting their house in order. Yes they might go up a division next year and struggle, but are expecting to make incremental progress in the coming years.

In any case we shouldnt even be comparing our lot to that of our hurlers. We arnt in competition with them. Is it really too much to expect our county officials to have some vision for football?? After all these years we still do not have a structured plan!

How hard would it be to put in place a sub group within the county and task them with the job of making our county teams at all age groups much more competitive by the time the new Casement Park opens and build on from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 06, 2020, 07:04:01 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 06, 2020, 05:47:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..

Is hurling not very different in that it is only played seriously by a few counties whereas football is taken serious enough by most counties. The divisions in football would be a lot more competitive than the hurling divisions.

Seriously? So we take Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal out of the mix, who's taking it seriously in the other counties?

That's a serious question

Maybe the phrase 'taking it seriously' wasn't the best way to word that but I had always thought, in terms of playing numbers and clubs, Gaelic football is the most popular, especially in Ulster, Leinster and Connaught. Maybe 7 counties would have hurling as their number 1 sport and then another 3/4 would have an even split (Galway for example) The thing that hurling seems to have done well, is put all the teams of equal ability together.

Back to my original question though, what is the hurling doing so well? Are they winning at underage? What are these structures that they have in place that the footballers don't? I heard this at a match last year as well and asked what the hurlers are doing differently and no one knew. It seems to be a big secret. I'm assuming they're getting more money pumped in? Are they getting access to better coaches and training methods?

Multiple factors

Darren Gleeson - serious coaching ability - outside manager- player buy-in, quality of the SHC, round Robin this year. Director of hurling with an overall plan and seems to be additional financial backing from donors

Football doesn't have all of those additional factors
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 06, 2020, 07:55:31 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 06, 2020, 07:04:01 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 06, 2020, 05:47:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
I still don't understand what the hurlers are doing that is so good? What is it that is so good that they're doing? Are they still not well off the pace and no where near the top teams? My lack of knowledge of hurling in the county is limited so I'm asking genuine questions here, not having a go.

Is there a full time S&C coach and S&C facility in the county? If not, then that would be a worthwhile investment. I can't believe the money that was spent at dunsilly, doesn't include a gym and floodlights.

If there are 4 hurling divisions and one team is in the second division (1b) then that's progress from being division 2.

If you are in division 4 and can't get out of that league then you're not doing as well.

Unless some people think div 4 football is better than div 1b hurling that is .

The problem football has is it's not tiered, the point of Antrim and Sligo Waterford and teams like that competing for Sam is very strange..

Is hurling not very different in that it is only played seriously by a few counties whereas football is taken serious enough by most counties. The divisions in football would be a lot more competitive than the hurling divisions.

Seriously? So we take Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal out of the mix, who's taking it seriously in the other counties?

That's a serious question

Maybe the phrase 'taking it seriously' wasn't the best way to word that but I had always thought, in terms of playing numbers and clubs, Gaelic football is the most popular, especially in Ulster, Leinster and Connaught. Maybe 7 counties would have hurling as their number 1 sport and then another 3/4 would have an even split (Galway for example) The thing that hurling seems to have done well, is put all the teams of equal ability together.

Back to my original question though, what is the hurling doing so well? Are they winning at underage? What are these structures that they have in place that the footballers don't? I heard this at a match last year as well and asked what the hurlers are doing differently and no one knew. It seems to be a big secret. I'm assuming they're getting more money pumped in? Are they getting access to better coaches and training methods?

Multiple factors

Darren Gleeson - serious coaching ability - outside manager- player buy-in, quality of the SHC, round Robin this year. Director of hurling with an overall plan and seems to be additional financial backing from donors

Football doesn't have all of those additional factors

But this didn't happen overnight. This has been a process to get Antrim to this point.

Key for me is the underage talent coming through this past 5 years say, through the clubs e.g. Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2020, 08:18:17 AM
The gap between lower tier hurling began when the back door was introduced, it allowed the bigger teams a second bite of the cherry and when the element of surprise goes it becomes harder to win.

Antrim failed to keep up with the other main counties at the time and gap widened, Dinny broke the mould for a period and in some occasions we were very unlucky, Tipp Wexford bring the notable games..

The introduction of the tiered system I feel has lifted our standard and our mentality has changed, we've accepted that we are a second tier team, but have plans to move up. The skills are there, and Gleason isn't stupid, he's seen that there's lads willing to buy in to his vision, Neil has a huge job and let's hope that position bears fruit at all levels..

As for underage we've never really competed, we ain't in our own

Counties that I feel hurling has taken over the big ball game is growing.

Carlow, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath. These are four counties that have beaten Antrim and football was their main sport. Kerry have made huge strides and really should be competing in the Munster championship.

Limerick, Galway, Tipp, Kilkenny, Waterford, Cork, Wexford, Clare and Dublin on their day can beat each other. Bar Dublin (Who for years we beat handy enough) hurling is the top sport, five Munster 3 from Leinster 1 Connaught.

There are 8 teams competing for Liam, 2 at the minute seem head and shoulders above the rest, that'll change.

Progressive teams coming up a division will develop further. Why the Sam Maguire has 33 teams trying to win it is beyond me, why football people can't see that is even more baffling. If someone can give me a decent sustainable reason why we enter a competition that we are 28th in and expect to win I'll listen, I doubt Bannside could find me an answer to that one.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 06, 2020, 08:30:04 AM
My original point still stands.

The seeds of this current structure (which is not perfect btw) were started by a group of committed people. This was way before any DOH was mentioned.

My question was why can a similar group of people get together for the promotion of football in the county and look at what they can do to develop it. Once this is in place I am sure the investment and backing would follow.

Could it be dare I say that all those committed football people (with the means) are already being tapped by clubs to pay for 'managers', therefore there is no excess to provide for anything above this.

I think this has to be the first step before a DOF, because if you have a DOF prior to this type of movement what are they working with?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 08:33:47 AM
Im all for a two tiered system in football MR. I'd have a top 8 competition (as its there already and is working well) and then a comperition with the other 24/26 involved.

The second tier competition needs properly marketed and resourced so thats its a really big honour to win it. It cant feel like a second class competition.

Some kind of promotion and relegation as well so that even counties in the top tier would keep gping until the end to stave off the prospect of relegation.

In league terms we are tier 4, so we cant think playing in a two tier system is in any way beneath us.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2020, 08:39:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2020, 08:33:47 AM
Im all for a two tiered system in football MR. I'd have a top 8 competition (as its there already and is working well) and then a comperition with the other 24/26 involved.

The second tier competition needs properly marketed and resourced so thats its a really big honour to win it. It cant feel like a second class competition.

Some kind of promotion and relegation as well so that even counties in the top tier would keep gping until the end to stave off the prospect of relegation.

In league terms we are tier 4, so we cant think playing in a two tier system is in any way beneath us.

That mindset of thinking we are above our station is killing us, if we are tier four Level we should win a tier four competition before moving up, win the third tier competition and move up again, once you are competing and winning these levels you'll earn the right to play with the big boys..

We can't match the big boys at the minute so Croke needs to adapt, the hurlers took their medicine without any complaints and have embraced it, why can't the footballers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 08:45:56 AM
Nag I wouldnt disagree with anything you are saying. Football dosent NEED a DOF, but a sub group primed to make some basic recomendations that could take it to the next level. I can think of dozens of people with the know how and interest to take this on if they were approached. The bigger plan and the structure to lead that could as you say Nag, evolve in the second phase.

We dont need yet another full blown talking shop with everybody lining up to highlight the usual problems, but struggle to provide any solutions.

As Nag says, a few good hurling people got together to see what hhey could do after a few disappointing seasons. The DOH thing evolved from that.

This can be as KISS as it needs to be, but needs to happen ASAP.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2020, 08:52:40 AM
how any COunty board can have a director of hurling and not a director of football is beyond me in the era of equality.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2020, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2020, 08:52:40 AM
how any COunty board can have a director of hurling and not a director of football is beyond me in the era of equality.......

So how did this come about? I'd be interested in knowing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2020, 09:09:15 AM
The restructuring of the hurling championship did play a massive part in how the Counties were forced to do the same. Antrim had to adapt to try and get to a higher level.

As MR says, Antrim did to an extend compete with Wexford, Tipp etc but fell short and in the forth coming years fall away off. We went to a level
(or results and performances dictated it) that we were able to compete at. Simply put we just weren't good enough to compete at a higher level. Antrim were at the level they deserved to be.

We were a division 2 side - not 1a or 1b - and we struggled at times at that level for a lot of years. The Christy Ring cup was the level again we were at and we struggled for a few years through that. But progress has been made.

Darren Gleeson has come in, Liam Sheedy has come in to help as well from time to time -  both All Ireland winners with Tipperary - quality assets. Antrim got a good management team of great former hurlers like Jim Close, Gary O'Kane, Johnny Campbell, Karl McKeegan etc. All those lads have won championships, all Ireland club titles, played in All Ireland semi finals and finals, and represented Antrim for years between them.

They have brought in the best hurlers from every club, no matter what level they are playing at, and gelled a good team together.

Yes there has been plenty of downs in that time but they have bounced back from them all. They seem to have learned and adapted.

I don't see any sort of improvement in our football fortunes this past years. We seem to be doing the same bloody thing year after year. We think we should be out of Div 4 - we don't get out of it. We enter the Ulster championship and get one game and then move to the qualifiers and if we are lucky get two more games. After its all over we then bemoan our fortunes and how things need to change.

Rinse and repeat for the following year.

Its depressing and its why there's very little appetite for football in the County. It has to change from top to bottom.

It may be on a lower level but within our club we have a hurling, football and camogie development committee with like minded folk in all of them. Their sole aims is to improve and promote the codes within the club and look to see how they can make it better all the time, address problems and find solutions to it. If we can do that on a club level surely it can be done at county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2020, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2020, 08:33:47 AM
Im all for a two tiered system in football MR. I'd have a top 8 competition (as its there already and is working well) and then a comperition with the other 24/26 involved.

The second tier competition needs properly marketed and resourced so thats its a really big honour to win it. It cant feel like a second class competition.

Some kind of promotion and relegation as well so that even counties in the top tier would keep gping until the end to stave off the prospect of relegation.

In league terms we are tier 4, so we cant think playing in a two tier system is in any way beneath us.

Thats the problem BS, it wont be marketed or covered well. We have seen the hurling and what way they have done wiht it but the reality is that no one cares about watching Louth v Leitrim in the hurling, much the same as they dont care about antrim v leitrim in the football. its of no interest whereas the top games like Dublin v Kerry and Tipp v Kilkenny are.

But getting on tv is the least of our concerns at the moment and a two/three tier system in football is needed to give us more competitive games at a level we can improve at and try to step up to each time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2020, 10:42:13 AM
While the Joe McDonagh isn't televised particularly well it's a fantastic tournament which will bring all the teams on.

I think to MR's point he could be right(heaven forbid). I honestly thought part of our drifting for a few years in the hurling was because we were far too good for the christy ring but nowhere near good enough for the liam mccarthy so one year we were hammering everyone to the next year we were getting hammered. The competitions weren't leveled right at all. The Joe MCDonagh has been great for Laois, Carlow, Westmeath and Antrim. In football arguably if you had two competitions we would fall into the camp of not being good enough to be competitive (draw dependent) but if you had four then we would be in with a shout. Yes that will mean the matches are against teams who won't be deemed to be glamorous fixtures but then we wouldn't be either so couldn't complain about that.

Anyway while we are in the ulster championship hopefully we have at least a chance against Cavan. They would be strong favourites but I'd rather we played them than Monaghan as experience wise / conditioning wise etc they're not quite as good as Monaghan and Monaghan tbh need to take a long hard look at themselves for why they didn't beat Cavan as they just sat back when they could have put up a bit of a winning margin and then when they went forward it was too late.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2020, 11:21:19 AM
The JMcD cup has been a fantastic competitive group for Antrim and the teams around them. As you say IMG the likes of Laois and Carlow have stepped up and been able to hold their own (whilst maybe not winning all the time) and its shown them where they need to be.

Antrim have gotten really good games v Westmeath, Carlow, Offaly, Laois, Kerry over the last few years where some of the teams have progressed into the Liam McCarthy Cup.

If we ever want to stay there we need to maintain standards and keep working.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
Yeah I do think the christy ring before the JMcD didn't really work and there's a lesson in there for the football community.

Anyway turning big game weekend into hurling talk lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 01:04:02 PM
Indeed ITG. Big match ahead tomorrow evening and its all about pride restoration. The players let Lenny down badly against Wicklow, and got a result against Waterford, albeit it was a bit of a dead rubber for them. Nevertheless a win is a win.

Our lads have nothing to lose tomorrow, just go out for over an hour and give it 100% of everything you have. Its 20 v 20 and lets hang in as long as possible to put doubts in their head, and maybe with good fortune we can get over the line. Stranger things have happened, and for the work Lenny and co have put in they deserve a break.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 01:08:06 PM
DR, the Cuchullian model is perfect. Three codes, own centre of excellence and facilities. Theres a passion in Dunloy for Gaelic games that is up there with the best parishes in the land. No wonder you have a strong conveyor belt of talent coming through.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
The Antrim Gaa strategic report for 2020 - 2022, (page 9 - first paragraph) lays down the recomendation for directors of Hurling and Football. Its on our county website for all to see. The action was to be completed in 2020, so we should not despair. Hopefully the topic will go to the higher end of the priority list when normal county business resumes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 01:50:44 PM
Interestingly, Mr Mc Cavanagh quoted in todays Irish News as saying with regard to football, " We're getting our structures and our house in order". Good stuff...we will take that as a positive sign and await further developments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 06, 2020, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2020, 01:50:44 PM
Interestingly, Mr Mc Cavanagh quoted in todays Irish News as saying with regard to football, " We're getting our structures and our house in order". Good stuff...we will take that as a positive sign and await further developments.

seen that as well myself. Neal touched on it in the podcast interview he just did there during the week so its good to see that those structures are being implemented.

Structure and development committees are a good thing for the development of the game.

Financially Antrim is in a much better shape and thats down to those behind the Saffron Business form and Saffron vison. we should be able to build on that as well to provide more support to the senior teams in the coming years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2020, 06:03:39 PM
Club aontroma gave 25k to corrigan for the stand and funded a few other things. I thought that was good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2020, 07:35:04 PM
Team announced - Mick McCann starts as does Cunningham. Interesting change in goalie. Good to see Murray(Conor) more forward. I think he's much better there than midfield. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2020, 07:51:19 PM
Strong enough looking team, plenty of experience across the pitch too. Come on lads...surely theres a big 70 minutes in you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2020, 09:45:42 PM
Eamon Fyfe off the panel I see.

Good luck lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 07, 2020, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2020, 07:51:19 PM
Strong enough looking team, plenty of experience across the pitch too. Come on lads...surely theres a big 70 minutes in you.

Your joking me, there are two if not three players not near the level. Tomas McCann on the bench, simply incredible. What is going on in LHs head. If anyone thinks PC ( class player in his day) is fit enough to start championship at this level I'm a monkeys uncle. We haven't a chance. I hope like you we can give it a go but my head keeps batting my heart down the lough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 12:42:58 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 07, 2020, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2020, 07:51:19 PM
Strong enough looking team, plenty of experience across the pitch too. Come on lads...surely theres a big 70 minutes in you.

Your joking me, there are two if not three players not near the level. Tomas McCann on the bench, simply incredible. What is going on in LHs head. If anyone thinks PC ( class player in his day) is fit enough to start championship at this level I'm a monkeys uncle. We haven't a chance. I hope like you we can give it a go but my head keeps batting my heart down the lough.

So the whole season is based on one player sitting on the bench? You're some lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 07, 2020, 01:12:50 AM
Read the post. There are 2/3 players are not up to it. They been involved in all our league games. If you can't see it nb.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 07, 2020, 01:15:49 AM
If that is a "strong" lineup then antrim are in for an absolute hiding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
Poor enough side alright but I'm sure everyone would pick a different team and we don't see what's going on at training. I see at least 3 on the bench I'd be starting though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
Poor enough side alright but I'm sure everyone would pick a different team and we don't see what's going on at training. I see at least 3 on the bench I'd be starting though.

This is it, when the job becomes available apply...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2020, 11:58:16 AM
best of luck to the team today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 12:07:33 PM
Let's play hard for 35 minuets, take stock and get at it again! If we don't shoot we won't score, too many times we try and get within 15 feet  before shooting!

The defence needs to stop the attack down the middle, foul them higher up the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 01:33:01 PM
Can we stop the game now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 07, 2020, 01:41:00 PM
I said it after last week that we have a great chance to get a win here. The difference between top counties and the likes of Cavan, Cavan bear a big team and then have no intensity against us. Big teams treat every game with the same intensity and prepare to that end look at when we play a Donegal or Tyrone, they come out of the blocks the same against Antrim as they do against a mayo or Dublin. That's the difference. We have them here let's get foot on the throat and get the win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 07, 2020, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2020, 07:51:19 PM
Strong enough looking team, plenty of experience across the pitch too. Come on lads...surely theres a big 70 minutes in you.

Your joking me, there are two if not three players not near the level. Tomas McCann on the bench, simply incredible. What is going on in LHs head. If anyone thinks PC ( class player in his day) is fit enough to start championship at this level I'm a monkeys uncle. We haven't a chance. I hope like you we can give it a go but my head keeps batting my heart down the lough.

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on November 07, 2020, 01:57:36 PM
Cunningham rolling back the gears best player on the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 02:20:28 PM
A few shots dropped short and a goal chance missed. That was the winning of the game. One thing that people can't shout about is a lack of effort, all the fellas on the pitch are busting their balls today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 02:20:28 PM
A few shots dropped short and a goal chance missed. That was the winning of the game. One thing that people can't shout about is a lack of effort, all the fellas on the pitch are busting their balls today.

Cavan dropped 4 or 5 in the first half and a couple already this half, seems to be a trend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
Poor enough side alright but I'm sure everyone would pick a different team and we don't see what's going on at training. I see at least 3 on the bench I'd be starting though.

This is it, when the job becomes available apply...

I'd charge a tenner a session so I'd be too expensive for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
Poor enough side alright but I'm sure everyone would pick a different team and we don't see what's going on at training. I see at least 3 on the bench I'd be starting though.

This is it, when the job becomes available apply...

I'd charge a tenner a session so I'd be too expensive for Antrim.
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Use Armagh men are gangsters!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 02:52:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 08:48:23 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 07, 2020, 06:40:01 AM
Poor enough side alright but I'm sure everyone would pick a different team and we don't see what's going on at training. I see at least 3 on the bench I'd be starting though.

This is it, when the job becomes available apply...

I'd charge a tenner a session so I'd be too expensive for Antrim.
[/quote
Use Armagh men are gangsters!

We are indeed!

That was a game that Antrim lost themselves. Enough chances to win 2 games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 07, 2020, 03:00:48 PM
Played almost half the game with an extra man. Opportunity missed there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 07, 2020, 03:01:04 PM
Every young footballer in the county should look up to a player like Mick McCann. True professional, and looks after himself for the age of him. Unlucky today, but I think time for a change next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 03:01:13 PM
Yes we could have won it, look at the chance we had at the end summed up some of our issues, missed opportunities.

Dads army were our best players. Seems Tomas didn't start because he was injured but monkeys know more  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2020, 03:07:36 PM
Gutted to lose that. So much good play and composure. Lenny had his men well set up, a good system in place and there was more than enough opportunity to go and win the game. Had Paddy Gallagher hit the net at the start of the second half, we would have been nicely in the driving seat. There was a clear push on Paddy that could easily have been a penalty. Such small margins make so much difference at this level.

I think the players made a big positive statement today. Burst a gut from start to finish and although defeated, not in a laughing stock sort of way that has sometimes been the case in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 07, 2020, 03:25:55 PM
Just so frustrating. Season after season, no wins in Ulster. We were well capable of winning that today. Some poor decisions especially in front of goal. Paddy C and Mick were great especially first half. Without them today we wouldn't have been in it, so does that mean we can't do without them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 07, 2020, 03:30:22 PM
Name me a better player than Mick McCann in the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 07, 2020, 04:08:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 07, 2020, 03:30:22 PM
Name me a better player than Mick McCann in the county?

Conor Murray quite possibly the closet to him.

That was so frustrating today from an extremely economic first half to a wasteful second. Effort across the board was fantastic and nobody will be more disappointed than the lads.

There has been debate regarding S&C on here as last week or so and someone rightly pointed out that it doesn't kick the ball over the bar. What it does do though is enable you to hold onto possession in physical contact it was clear today that when Antrim took contact they inevitably got turned over. It happened on many occasions and had as much of a bearing on losing the game as the missed goal chance or wides kicked. It also has a major bearing on power output and pace.

We as a county and clubs have a responsibility here also, need to ensure our players are on sensible and safe conditioning programmes from 13/14 up.

This allied with continued and were possible improved coaching of the skills of the game and tactics is the only way we are going to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 07, 2020, 04:13:44 PM
Mick will definitely 100% be back for another year or two. Tomas too....I'd be fairly certain about that!!

Kobo and PC probably considering their options. Both excellent today and have been terrific servants over the years.

Lenny went for experience today and to be fair none of his older brigade let him down.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 08, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
We played really well in first half, throwing the ball about and looking confident, although we only managed 6 points.  Second half was same old same old.  We got panicky, even Cunningham who was playing with composure started to snatch at things.  If Gallagher gets the goal we might have caused an upset. Run out of legs as well which looked inevitable after 20 minutes.
Special mentions for the goalkeeper, reminds me a bit of Sean Patton in Donegal who is excellent, Conor Murray who took it to them, and Mick McCann who was glorious. He'd look at home in any county jersey. If he was 25 we'd have a bright future, same impact as Murphy in Donegal, controlling the ball and steadying the ship time and  time again.
Al the same, if you were an out of work manager, Antrim must hold some appeal, there are some good players to work with, good ones coming through (who I'd like to have seen more of yesterday) and the only way is up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2020, 10:08:18 AM
Agreed, while there was some obvious negatives, this was a huge improvement on the last 2 games.

Mick McCann was possibly man of the match, the award only going to the winners by default.

The snap shots by Paddy was tiredness, there's no denying that, we are not at Cavan's fitness level nor have the S&C of these other teams in Ulster.

We didn't play like a div 4 team and while Cavan's own performance from previous week was down (largely in part to our tactics) we needed to make the most of the breakaway attacks and limit the mistakes, lost possession, drop balls into keeper, not breaking tackles, had we improved that we'd be getting ready for another winnable  game v Fermanagh or Down, strange!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 08, 2020, 11:35:28 AM
I for one take back a lot of the criticism I handed out in the aftermath of the Wicklow game, the boys gave their all and played to their potential yesterday, we cannot blame the current crop nor management for the S&C of the players, this is a thing which must be built up over years.

If Lenny decides to stay so be it, it's clear the players are backing him, if not I would be happy to support Mr Cassidy in taking the reins.

Let's look at Antrim as a 10 year project starting now by investing in the stars of tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2020, 01:16:24 PM
Yeah much improved yesterday coupLe of questions
- waht happened the big lad from Aghagallon who was very good early in year at the National leagues matches at Glenavy?
- was big Shivers not in panel?
- is Brolly's lad not county level now? always seemed to be excellent player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 08, 2020, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2020, 01:16:24 PM
Yeah much improved yesterday coupLe of questions
- waht happened the big lad from Aghagallon who was very good early in year at the National leagues matches at Glenavy?
- was big Shivers not in panel?
- is Brolly's lad not county level now? always seemed to be excellent player

He got 10 mins at the end yesterday. He's fit and healthy and had an excellent championship for our club and got the better of several of his Antrim team mates. Can't understand why he has hardly got a sniff since then. Shivers and Adam Loughran are two potential county stars if they can be guided properly and given access to all the S&C that the top counties get. Adam was DCU freshers player of the year as well. Studying down there will do him no harm. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2020, 01:26:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2020, 01:16:24 PM
Yeah much improved yesterday coupLe of questions
- waht happened the big lad from Aghagallon who was very good early in year at the National leagues matches at Glenavy?
- was big Shivers not in panel?
- is Brolly's lad not county level now? always seemed to be excellent player

Nothing happened.
Shivers not on panel
Brollys lad Not good enough?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 08, 2020, 01:35:56 PM
Left it behind us yesterday but an encouraging display and we had the chances. Mick McCann, Paddy hands conor Murray and oisin Kerr our best players. If paddy Gallagher's chance goes in I think we win.

I wouldn't be a big fan of the work Lenny has done to date but how disrespectful that our county chairman would go on a solo run and approach someone to take the team next year. All this is the week before our championship match. Could he not have waited until we were beaten?

Worse still the management track record of the individual in question is very limited and uninspiring  :(



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 08, 2020, 02:01:46 PM
Not much etiquette shown there. Who got approached?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 08, 2020, 02:14:13 PM
Although in fairness for county teams making a change this unusual year there is very little time to do it. Maybe was just trying to be pro-active
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 08, 2020, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 08, 2020, 02:14:13 PM
Although in fairness for county teams making a change this unusual year there is very little time to do it. Maybe was just trying to be pro-active

Before a team is knocked out??

Seems like the man likes the PR.

Antrim need to focus on Div. 4...and get out of it.  That'll be progress next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2020, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 08, 2020, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 08, 2020, 02:14:13 PM
Although in fairness for county teams making a change this unusual year there is very little time to do it. Maybe was just trying to be pro-active

Before a team is knocked out??

Seems like the man likes the PR.

Antrim need to focus on Div. 4...and get out of it.  That'll be progress next year.

This was the best year to get out .. no guarantee we'll be in a better position if there is a change in management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 08, 2020, 02:58:57 PM
Not sure a few days would have made much of a difference.

I don't think there was going to be a very long q to snap up a rookie with a couple of years club experience which didn't go so well.

Serious lack of ambition from our county chairman. If he was tapping up Jimmy McGuinness or Tony McEntee then I could maybe understand his solo run
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 08, 2020, 03:08:36 PM
How did his club experience not go so well? Did he take the team backwards? Should they have won a championship and didn't. Did he alienate players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 08, 2020, 03:47:02 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 08, 2020, 02:58:57 PM
Not sure a few days would have made much of a difference.

I don't think there was going to be a very long q to snap up a rookie with a couple of years club experience which didn't go so well.

Serious lack of ambition from our county chairman. If he was tapping up Jimmy McGuinness or Tony McEntee then I could maybe understand his solo run
Oh no thanks, we're hard enough to watch without Jim McGuinness getting involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2020, 07:35:24 PM
Madden ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 08, 2020, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on November 08, 2020, 03:08:36 PM
How did his club experience not go so well? Did he take the team backwards? Should they have won a championship and didn't. Did he alienate players?

An up and coming swatragh team didn't get past the quarter final stage in his 2 years and he wasn't offered another term. Sticking to the facts, hardly a CV that would merit being head hunted to manage a county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 08, 2020, 11:23:51 PM
Surely there would be more than one person in for the job or have they been working behind the scenes this while now to replace the current management and have narrowed it to MC Ginley. And is it certain he is taking over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 08, 2020, 11:49:41 PM
MC ginley could bring alot to the table with his own playing experience with Tyrone and what a setup should consist of.

Few faces into the squad. Bring few younger players in and let them learn from a Mick MC cann or paddy Cunningham

You could have had 2 Johnston's,shivers ,ruairi MC cann on that team yesterday easily . Young gribben another one who should be about county set ups. MC enhill from rossa another great young player who was about panel for a bit this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
One that was totally left behind them on Saturday. There for the taking but none of our players looked like they could actually go and take it.

We can chat and slabber all we want back and forward about Lenny and who could do this and that, but when it came down to it the players didn't have it when it counted.

Not one stood up to be counted when it really really mattered. Harsh but true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2020, 11:26:35 AM
Partially true Nag but a thats harsh! A division 4 team playing against a team that had played all year in Div 2 and just after knocking out a division one team a week earlier. Id argue quite a few performed really well, led by Oisin Kerr who was simply outstanding...but saying that...we should perhaps question that if this performance was in the locker, why did we not see more of it!

Apart from some awful shooting and decision making when the fat was in the fire we could have been talking about a tactical masterpiece and celebrating a rare and famous victory. Such thin margins!

Lets take a few days and feel the pulse of the county. In the meantime maybe Lenny would let us know his thoughts. Is he going to pitch hard for one more year. Pre Covid we were looking like almost certain promotion material. He has more competition for places than ever. His system looked good on Saturday. With some fresh faces amongst squad and backroom staff tightened up, could his proposal carry enough weight for another term. Or is it time to put hands up and say that maybe another camp can set up and bring fresh impetus to the situation.

Ultimately the call may go out to clubs for alternatives and the case for and against can be debated when all the relevant details are made known. May whats best for Antrim Football be the winner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 09, 2020, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 08, 2020, 11:49:41 PM
MC ginley could bring alot to the table with his own playing experience with Tyrone and what a setup should consist of.

Few faces into the squad. Bring few younger players in and let them learn from a Mick MC cann or paddy Cunningham

You could have had 2 Johnston's,shivers ,ruairi MC cann on that team yesterday easily . Young gribben another one who should be about county set ups. MC enhill from rossa another great young player who was about panel for a bit this year.

Seemed to be a trend with lenny during the leaguenot giving to many of these guys a chance, ryan mcnulty, eoin nagle, eamon fyffe, adam loughran just to name a few
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 10, 2020, 10:35:29 AM
I see that Lenny has not chosen to extend his 3 year tenure. Wishing him all the best in future endeavours, he is a committed Antrim Gael.
So who's next then lads.. Time for a SW manager perhaps given progression in the teams this area? Any good ideas lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2020, 10:40:18 AM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/antrim-football-management-statement


Thanks for the service Lenny.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2020, 10:48:23 AM
I think instead of being criticised he should be thanked for the time and service that he give towards Antrim football. Things didnt pan out how he wanted but he give it all he could. I wish him all the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2020, 10:49:03 AM
Very much so. He put a lot of time and effort into it and deserves credit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
Very good interview with Liam Bradley in the paper over the weekend.

Baker 3???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 10:54:23 AM
Two campaigns out of 3 we missed promotion by a point. If one of those losses had been a draw...or one of the draws a win. The time and effort the management team puts in, its enormous. And Lenny had no luck at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2020, 11:12:52 AM
Who is aghagallon manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 11:27:47 AM
Kevin Murray.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2020, 12:00:53 PM
Firstly lets give a big shout out to Lenny Brendan and Finty for a huge committment. They gave everything they had to take us to that extra level, and were very unfortunate that did not work out. Their efforts should be recognised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2020, 12:01:24 PM
We have plenty of decent gaffers on this board... Get your names in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2020, 12:08:09 PM
I've been involved with our senior hurlers, footballers and camogiers. By god it takes over your life and everything you do has to revolve around the team, trainings, matches, friendlies, player injuries, admin etc. Its something that takes over and your family, work and personal life all have to fit into it as well.

Id say a county set up is even more than that and fair play to any man or woman that takes it on. The expectations in our county are probably unrealistic due to how strong ulster football is and that along with the long running failures in our history whoever comes in to take the job on is expected to change it around instantly.

Its not a job for someone unless theres a long term plan in place and commitment to back that plan as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 10, 2020, 12:59:46 PM
Someone based with the Universities worth a shout? Deegan or Paul Rouse, could even give O'Rourke a chance to implement his grand idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 10, 2020, 01:32:11 PM
Did rouse not get the road from the loup after 1 season. And with the quality of players UUJ have had at his disposal they done nothing.

No need to rush this decision in the first few weeks. Should be plenty of interest for the job regardless of recent seasons and results.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 10, 2020, 01:32:15 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 10, 2020, 12:59:46 PM
Someone based with the Universities worth a shout? Deegan or Paul Rouse, could even give O'Rourke a chance to implement his grand idea

He would take Antrim to Division 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 02:52:19 PM
What SW clubs are doing well? Do you realise Cargin are the only team from SW since the late 60s to win the championship. If you are being serious and referring to Cargin then yes we have an outside manager currently. If you think were succesful would logic not tell you Antrim need to go and do the same. Seems its ok for the hurlers to do it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 10, 2020, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I didn't realise so many St Galls men have had the opportunity to manage Antrim. Any fecking wonder were in D4  ;)

MR2 for manager? Another Gt Galls man, eh? that could be our new slogan lads ?

MR2! MR2! MR2! MR2!  8) only having a laugh MR2  ;) 8)

Watched the game last night for the first, We certainly had the chance, but never went for it. Gallaghers gl chance was massive, v limited on the ball and it showed, whilst the Down player made the right call with a simple fist pass for a palm in, Gallagher has yet to see the Antrim player to his left utterly free for a palm in. Brilliant move. We got alot right. Mick Mc Cann the main driver. Hard to believe Lenny had him off the panel for the Wicklow game and then phoned him after the game to get him back in, seriously  ;D  Imagine if Lenny had of accommodated McCann's business commitments over the past two seasons, we would be out of D4. Lenny fell on that sword. Our captain did a brilliant man marking job to.
One dimensional tactics beat us in the end, when Cavan went to 14 on the black card we should have been going full press at the start of the second half on them as well as their Kickouts. That was our chance. But ultimately fitness and lack of conditioning took its toll in the final 10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 03:26:50 PM
I laughed hard there  ;D

So some points.
Tomas was injured and that's one reason why he didn't start and then came off
Mick was injured for the Wicklow game apparently, as I did a inhouse game at Dunsilly and that's was the reason I was given on the day
Mick McCann has been one of Antrim's best players for many years, and it showed during that game, Its a pity he wasn't moving the ball into a fit Kevin Niblock
I thought our kickout's were great and this was also mentioned during the halftime talks, we just lost possession on the ball.

I'm busy and the big ball game wouldn't be my first love 8)

As for Gall's men taking the team sure when you need experienced managers who have taken their club to winning Ulster (PJ) winning platers Ulster (Frank, PJ, Lenny) Managing an All Ireland (Lenny) and an All Ireland winning player (under 21) Culbert, that's not a bad set of lads to pull from in Antrim.

CV's mean nothing if we can't improve our worth, and get out of Div 4...

Hard work, buy in and a bitta luck is needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 10, 2020, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
Very good interview with Liam Bradley in the paper over the weekend.

Baker 3???

Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 11, 2020, 07:59:19 AM
What about this business forum putting up some money to go and fund a recognised management team and set up. Who'd want the job though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2020, 08:48:07 AM
We are constantly putting ourselves down.  Plenty of good footballers and plenty of good managers around who with any luck at all would have us playing at a higher level. No doubt about it.

Re Saffron Business Forum, yes Im sure they would contribute to the football pot if the right case was made. Another dozen or so businesses signed up would make a huge difference if you know of any. You will need a much more positive attitude though if you do feel like approaching them though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on November 11, 2020, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 10, 2020, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
Very good interview with Liam Bradley in the paper over the weekend.

Baker 3???

Yes

Baker Óg could be more of a shout....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 11, 2020, 10:53:42 AM
Quote from: JohnDenver on November 11, 2020, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 10, 2020, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
Very good interview with Liam Bradley in the paper over the weekend.

Baker 3???

Yes

Baker Óg could be more of a shout....

You've spent to long on that Jet plane John Denver.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on November 11, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 11, 2020, 10:53:42 AM
Quote from: JohnDenver on November 11, 2020, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 10, 2020, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 10, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
Very good interview with Liam Bradley in the paper over the weekend.

Baker 3???

Yes

Baker Óg could be more of a shout....

You've spent to long on that Jet plane John Denver.

;D ;D  He probably would have more experience than McGinley for being of a similar age. But then McGinley would have the McCann factor in possibly / probably persuading Mick and Tomas to stay on for another year at least. It's an attractive gig for somebody as getting out of division 4 (easier said than done) is the main aim and there's more than enough quality to do that with the right man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 11, 2020, 12:30:03 PM
Who would you all pick to get the job that is available and is a realistic option?

BS I am interested in your opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 11, 2020, 01:09:41 PM
Madden and McKeever?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2020, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?

Lot of jest to be fair, but the main point is, that in Antrim we just don't have the experience in house that will be able to get us the results and Baker and Gleason have shown that we seem to work better with outside coaches that can bring a different dimension, for whatever reason.

The big argument last time was that the SW has been poorly represented over the years in terms of management within the county, when the successful managers from the SW are looking after SW clubs I'd be all for it, that's not the case unfortunately, there are plenty of possibilities as Jim has mentioned above
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 11, 2020, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 11, 2020, 01:09:41 PM
Madden and McKeever?

McKeever staying with Bellaghy according to the Derry Post.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 11, 2020, 02:23:55 PM
names in the paper, their experience. Helps to clear the mud, so to speak.

Mc Ginley, taken Swatragh senior team for two seasons. two minor championship titles with Errigal. No senior championship finals or wins, nor has he any county management experience

Madden, managed 4 senior clubs, one championship final defeat with Creggan, coached Glenullin to their championship win. Intercounty, 2 years coaching Derry & this season coaching with Tyrone

Lynch, managed LD for past 4 /5 years. One senior championship win, beaten senior finalist. Did he manage their Ulster minor club winning team? No intercounty experience

McKeever, managed 4/5 senior teams, beaten Tyrone senior championship finalist, won an Ulster and All Ireland intermediate championship with Cookstown. No intercounty experience.

Cassidy, taken four senior clubs, 9 senior finals winning 6 in three counties, as we know led Cargin to their first historic 3 in a row. Won Ulster U21 & U18 club championships. Derry assistant manager for 3 seasons, won NFL and beaten All Ireland semi finalists and then Derry manager for 2 years, beaten NFL finalists.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mikhailov on November 11, 2020, 02:47:31 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 11, 2020, 02:23:55 PM
names in the paper, their experience. Helps to clear the mud, so to speak.

Mc Ginley, taken Swatragh senior team for two seasons. two minor championship titles with Errigal. No senior championship finals or wins, nor has he any county management experience

Madden, managed 4 senior clubs, one championship final defeat with Creggan, coached Glenullin to their championship win. Intercounty, 2 years coaching Derry & this season coaching with Tyrone

Lynch, managed LD for past 4 /5 years. One senior championship win, beaten senior finalist. Did he manage their Ulster minor club winning team? No intercounty experience

McKeever, managed 4/5 senior teams, beaten Tyrone senior championship finalist, won an Ulster and All Ireland intermediate championship with Cookstown. No intercounty experience.

Cassidy, taken four senior clubs, 9 senior finals winning 6 in three counties, as we know led Cargin to their first historic 3 in a row. Won Ulster U21 & U18 club championships. Derry assistant manager for 3 seasons, won NFL and beaten All Ireland semi finalists and then Derry manager for 2 years, beaten NFL finalists.

What club teams did Cassidy take. Clonoe & Cargin, who else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 11, 2020, 03:06:29 PM
Think he took his own club bellaghy to a championship early noughties. Not sure who the other one was but Dunsilly King will definitely know. Sounds like there's a strong possibility he might even know what Cassidy had for his breakfast if you get me  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 11, 2020, 03:17:10 PM
Your being sore on me. Took my time getting the info on line. Wikipedia a big help. I knew Maddens and McKeevers background well due to my SW interest in them.

Which brings me on to MR2 question of SW managers. Both McKeever and Madden have a sound grounding.

BTW I'm off isolating for the next number of days. Seriously pissed off with this covid stuff. Thats twice now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 11, 2020, 04:11:34 PM
Madden/McKeever, however Cassidy is a win at all costs Character, something that could be enstilled into our county and the grit and steel we lack county-wide. Could also look into Fearghal McCusker from Maghera or Sean Marty Lockheart.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2020, 04:37:31 PM
Of everyone listed above the absolute standout CV is Damien Cassidy, especially in terms of silverware. 6 county championships is an impressive tally. To balance that, his term as manager of Derry was underwhelming, when they had a terrific squad, and I know quite a few Cargin lads who think that his number two there Ronan Devlin deserves more credit than he gets. Nevertheless, if DCs name was in the hat it should receive serious consideration.

Mairtin Lynch is very good around a team. Squeezes every ounce from his players who respect him. Surrounds himself with good footballing people, and streetwise as they come. Would do a good job if he was a realistic possibility, but he has new committments at work and if I was being honest, I do think its time to come out of the city for a term. Win another cship with LD and will be very strong in the frame for again!

Paddy Bradley, has definitely kicked on as a coach since he helped out with Baker Honda and Fitzy in 2015. No objections at all as long Antrim is his only proper football committment. Could always have the oul boy in his corner which would not be a bad thing. But theres stronger preferences below.

Kevin Madden has more than enough on his CV to be given serious consideration. The Tyrone experience will enhance that. Id say he will stick with Tyrone and see what 2021 brings with Mc Shane back, and young Canavan  Mark Bradley etc, they must be a serious prospect for an AI. That opportunity would be too good to pass over. Certainly an Antrim manager at some stage when the timing fits.

John Mc Keever is another hugely serious option. His first proper experience was winning an All Ireland Intermediate with Cookstown when he was only mid thirties. Well thought of in Coalisland where he beat DC's Clonoe to reach a county final. Headhunted by many top teams across Mid Ulster, John leaves no stone unturned, always has a great backroom team (including Conleith Gilligan at Coalisland...now at Ulster champions Kilcoo along with Mickey Moran) and players love him. If he threw his name into the ring with say Kevin Brady coaching for example I would be delighted but it looks like he is planning year two with a young Bellaghy team that is still in development mode.

Enda Mc Ginley is an interesting development and it looks like this proposal is growing legs. A three time All Ireland winner who played the game intelligently (no wastage) and now writes about it intelligently too. Ulsters most highly decorated player of all time. Would surely entice a high profile No 2, imagine any one of Stevie O Neill, Brian Mc Guigan or similar alongside. That would be amazing, and if his first proper job at Swatragh was underwhelming, I have it on authority that he was well liked and thought of around the club. Certain to bring a top coach with him.

Personally I like the EMG idea to be honest, though a JMK/KB alliance being two honest SW men that might do the gig every bit as well, for a bit less, would stand alongside that as my own personal preference.

Just the opinion of one person.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2020, 04:56:54 PM
Another quick point.....whoever is given allocated the job....their very first phone call should be to talk to Hugh Mc Gettigan and build him into the backroom team. Hugh knows Antrim football just as well as anyone in the county, and will be there for 100% the right reason. Would be a great asset for any new management team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 11, 2020, 05:07:39 PM
BS any view from the players on how they felt about Lenny and his backroom during the term?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on November 11, 2020, 05:18:27 PM
Interesting read, couple if observations. Bannside references Derry as having a terrific squad. Seriously IMO a team that had no balls, couldn't put back to back Ulster championship wins until 2011, for one season where they returned to normal service. IMO Antrim had a better team at that time. There championship results support my position. A bit of guts in that team.
Bannside prefers a complete long shot, no barometer, nothing. A pure gamble. Do not understand your rationale at all. It should be either McKeever or Madden because they are Antrim men, EVERY TIME. Cassidy has some CV so clearly knows his job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2020, 06:45:15 PM
With EMG there is some element of a punt....that cannot be denied. Joe Mc Mahon alongside Ryan Mc Menamin made hard enough work with Fermanagh. Jody was a Tyrone midfielder who did not hit the heights for us either. I can't really put my finger on it...but I think EMG with a strong backroom team would do well. Its just instinct, obviously I cant back it up with anything more than that.

Im already sold on anything involving Mc Keever Madden Brady, as I said previously all these men would be more than capable of delivering our optimum potential. Would any of them do it for free? Thats the big question. Take money out of the equation and see how many are still standing! That would help shape my thinking too. Would Cassidy do it for free??

Who is available, thats the real question! Lets not talk about hypothetical situations. Some of those above are involved with other projects. That rules them out does it not? If they are available then they should fire their names into the mix otherwise its wasting time discussing it.

Jim Gavins good too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 11, 2020, 07:00:31 PM
Is Cassidy going with Cargan another year? If so EMG is the only name not with a job for next year then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on November 11, 2020, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 11, 2020, 04:56:54 PM
Another quick point.....whoever is given allocated the job....their very first phone call should be to talk to Hugh Mc Gettigan and build him into the backroom team. Hugh knows Antrim football just as well as anyone in the county, and will be there for 100% the right reason. Would be a great asset for any new management team.

Not sure if Hugh is retired yet, but he'd be a perfect fit for director of football, the same way Neal Pedan is director of hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 07:04:47 PM
If Antrim want someone that will do it for free I am pretty sure they would be the only team in Ireland that expect a man to do a 7 day a week job for nothing. Maybe why we are still in Division 4 given the last 2 cheap option appointments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?
St Johns - Kelly , LD - Lynch , Rossa Close i think, St Brides Eunan, St Galls Murray theres 5 Belfast div 1 clubs with their own volunteers unless you no different?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2020, 07:34:08 PM
Antrim are not looking anyone to do this for free. No one has ever said that. There is a lazy misconception that Lenny was a cheap option. But likewise it shouldnt be all about the money.

In any event if it was me I'd like to see what was the best VALUE. Everything has its price.

If one of the above mentioned was to say their usual package including backroom team was £xk, I would say look the deal is 50% of that and you can get 25%more if you get us promoted and another 25% for every championship game you win.

That might help with the shortlist, thats all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 11, 2020, 07:46:23 PM
Doubt that price structure would appeal.. You'd get better at club teams ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 07:51:50 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on November 11, 2020, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 11, 2020, 04:56:54 PM
Another quick point.....whoever is given allocated the job....their very first phone call should be to talk to Hugh Mc Gettigan and build him into the backroom team. Hugh knows Antrim football just as well as anyone in the county, and will be there for 100% the right reason. Would be a great asset for any new management team.
I'd say Brian White would be a good shout for director of football and coild take a longer view of things instead of just the cycle of manager after manager - look after the whole lot

Not sure if Hugh is retired yet, but he'd be a perfect fit for director of football, the same way Neal Pedan is director of hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?
St Johns - Kelly , LD - Lynch , Rossa Close i think, St Brides Eunan, St Galls Murray theres 5 Belfast div 1 clubs with their own volunteers unless you no different?
Tired of this now but for example Fay Devlin and Gavin McGeehan are also at St Galls. Dont argue when you arent up to speed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?
St Johns - Kelly , LD - Lynch , Rossa Close i think, St Brides Eunan, St Galls Murray theres 5 Belfast div 1 clubs with their own volunteers unless you no different?
Tired of this now but for example Fay Devlin and Gavin McGeehan are also at St Galls. Dont argue when you arent up to speed
yeah you seem to be expert in the murky world of brown envelopes - aRe you getting a turn yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: on the sideline on November 11, 2020, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 11, 2020, 06:45:15 PM
With EMG there is some element of a punt....that cannot be denied. Joe Mc Mahon alongside Ryan Mc Menamin made hard enough work with Fermanagh. Jody was a Tyrone midfielder who did not hit the heights for us either. I can't really put my finger on it...but I think EMG with a strong backroom team would do well. Its just instinct, obviously I cant back it up with anything more than that.

Im already sold on anything involving Mc Keever Madden Brady, as I said previously all these men would be more than capable of delivering our optimum potential. Would any of them do it for free? Thats the big question. Take money out of the equation and see how many are still standing! That would help shape my thinking too. Would Cassidy do it for free??

Who is available, thats the real question! Lets not talk about hypothetical situations. Some of those above are involved with other projects. That rules them out does it not? If they are available then they should fire their names into the mix otherwise its wasting time discussing it.

Jim Gavins good too!

Just interested how Enda McGinley is being mentioned as potential Antrim manager? What has he done in his managerial career so far that would elevate him into that kind of consideration? Genuine question
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?
St Johns - Kelly , LD - Lynch , Rossa Close i think, St Brides Eunan, St Galls Murray theres 5 Belfast div 1 clubs with their own volunteers unless you no different?
Tired of this now but for example Fay Devlin and Gavin McGeehan are also at St Galls. Dont argue when you arent up to speed
yeah you seem to be expert in the murky world of brown envelopes - aRe you getting a turn yourself?
good reply  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2020, 08:50:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 11, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 10, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Most defo needs to go to a SW man... with how well the SW west managers have been performing in the the clubs like Cargin these last few years and Creggan last year, even Aghagallon have done really well in the SW.. I'm sure anyone of those managers would love a crack at the job....oh wait
I say give it to a St Galls man, hasn't been enough of them given a chance in the last 15- 20 years (Cough Cough PJ O Hare, Mickey Culbert, Frank Dawson, Lenny)

I'm all for the best man for the job. The SW managers at the helm of the SW clubs that are doing well should get the nod, no?
The SW teams all have outside managerS? only trust their own coaches with the kids
Of the 12 Div 1 teams in Antrim, from my knowledge 9 of them have outsiders in their management team. 5 SW and 4 Belfast teams. What is your point going over that argument constantly?
St Johns - Kelly , LD - Lynch , Rossa Close i think, St Brides Eunan, St Galls Murray theres 5 Belfast div 1 clubs with their own volunteers unless you no different?
Tired of this now but for example Fay Devlin and Gavin McGeehan are also at St Galls. Dont argue when you arent up to speed

We talking managers or coaches/trainers background team?

We've plenty. That's what you'd expect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mikhailov on November 11, 2020, 09:09:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2020, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on November 11, 2020, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 11, 2020, 06:45:15 PM
With EMG there is some element of a punt....that cannot be denied. Joe Mc Mahon alongside Ryan Mc Menamin made hard enough work with Fermanagh. Jody was a Tyrone midfielder who did not hit the heights for us either. I can't really put my finger on it...but I think EMG with a strong backroom team would do well. Its just instinct, obviously I cant back it up with anything more than that.

Im already sold on anything involving Mc Keever Madden Brady, as I said previously all these men would be more than capable of delivering our optimum potential. Would any of them do it for free? Thats the big question. Take money out of the equation and see how many are still standing! That would help shape my thinking too. Would Cassidy do it for free??

Who is available, thats the real question! Lets not talk about hypothetical situations. Some of those above are involved with other projects. That rules them out does it not? If they are available then they should fire their names into the mix otherwise its wasting time discussing it.

Jim Gavins good too!

Just interested how Enda McGinley is being mentioned as potential Antrim manager? What has he done in his managerial career so far that would elevate him into that kind of consideration? Genuine question
Swatragh are looking him back. Must be good.

😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 11, 2020, 09:41:51 PM
Surely with the news that Harte isn't to get an extension at Tyrone, MC ginley will be throwing his name in for that job too.

Does this now encourage madden to move on and put his hand up for the Antrim job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 12, 2020, 11:31:33 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 11, 2020, 05:07:39 PM
BS any view from the players on how they felt about Lenny and his backroom during the term?
I have a few sources saying he was not popular in the camp
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 12:35:19 PM
Why don't we go for Mickey Harte?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on November 12, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 12:35:19 PM
Why don't we go for Mickey Harte?

Be cheaper to renovate Casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 12, 2020, 01:13:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 12:35:19 PM
Why don't we go for Mickey Harte?

Because BS wants to go for someone with zero experience in inter county and only two seasons (one of which was a half season due to covid) of club management,  not winning, nor not next to near close of winning a sen club championship. Go figure. Just because he has a feeling. 🤷‍♂️😳🤔

Can you feel it.....can you feel it.....can you feel it!!

Sing it.

😂😂😜😜😜😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 12, 2020, 01:13:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 12:35:19 PM
Why don't we go for Mickey Harte?

Because BS wants to go for someone with zero experience in inter county and only two seasons (one of which was a half season due to covid) of club management,  not winning, nor not next to near close of winning a sen club championship. Go figure. Just because he has a feeling. 🤷‍♂️😳🤔

Can you feel it.....can you feel it.....can you feel it!!

Sing it.

😂😂😜😜😜😜

BS could do a job actually..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 12, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
Well he has a similar record to EMcG, so he could go for it. You have a point if you live in BS head

BTW BS only having a laugh. Fecking day 4 of isolating. Only so much Netflix one can watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 11, 2020, 09:41:51 PM
Surely with the news that Harte isn't to get an extension at Tyrone, MC ginley will be throwing his name in for that job too.

Does this now encourage madden to move on and put his hand up for the Antrim job.
The soccer equivalent of your logic on McGinley and the Tyrone job - Was approached for the Port Vale job (which people are questioning whether he has the experience for), but should now apply for the Man Utd job as its available as he used to play for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2020, 03:18:18 PM
No offence taken DK, a bit of craic is always welcome!

What do you want in a manager? What do players want. What do supporters want. What does The Saffron Business Forum need to galvanise the business community or Club Aontroma to get more direct debits signed up. What do clubs want. Do the hurling clubs even care?

The answer to all these questions could throw up a different answer as people tend to view it from their own angle.

Ive stated clearly that all the people mentioned on that list are thete on merit and all could do a job. But the problem is, there isnt a list. The clubs are not involved. There is no director of football co ordinating anything.

Thats not to say a county board cant get involved, show a bit of leadership and ambition on the subject.  Having said that, clubs should have their say...thats the democratic process. Lets see who is recommended, or who is on the shortlist.... and take up the discussion from there. Interesting few days ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
Angermanagement...Hugh Mc Gettigan perfect choice if he was chosen as DOF. No better man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 12, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 12, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
Angermanagement...Hugh Mc Gettigan perfect choice if he was chosen as DOF. No better man.
hugh is as clueless as lenny  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2020, 04:42:50 PM
Entitled to your opinion of course...but who would you recommend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 12, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 12, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
Angermanagement...Hugh Mc Gettigan perfect choice if he was chosen as DOF. No better man.
hugh is as clueless as lenny  ;D
Harsh. Hes has done great work with Minor and U20 teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 12, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 12, 2020, 04:00:25 PM
Angermanagement...Hugh Mc Gettigan perfect choice if he was chosen as DOF. No better man.
hugh is as clueless as lenny  ;D

Very  hash and very disrespectful tbh.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2020, 07:01:50 PM
Tomorrow is the last day for nominations to coiste bainiste if any one on here would like to offer the benefit of their wisdom at a higher level. Who the holy heck wants to step into Sean Kellys shoes as PRO. As far as I know Sean has to step down. Then we are likely to find out how spoiled we actually were for the last four years!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2020, 07:35:51 PM
What was Baker Bradley able to do with Antrim players that no other Antrim manager has never really even nearly done since?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2020, 07:36:43 PM
Instil belief. Cahill was great at it in the hurling too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2020, 08:07:43 PM
Yeah that would be fair too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2020, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2020, 07:46:57 PM
It would be fair to say that Baker was working with better players than we currently have though?

Our best players now are lads who were playing under Baker, and them now 33-36. Have the likes of Loughrey, McClean, C Brady, K Brady, Scullion, Gallagher, Niblock, Close, T O'Neill been replaced with the same quality?

Did the managers on either side of Baker achieve similar success?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 12, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
So Antrim are apparently after a guy who has done nothing in his two years as a manager with a promising team. Jesus christ the night. I'd say there are even lads on the board with a better managerial CV than Mcginley. Bizarre. But they can't complain if these are the guys theyre going after. If there was a division 5, antrim would be in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2020, 09:41:33 PM
Are Swatragh the promising team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2020, 09:45:42 PM
They were never going to win Derry. Getting them much improved was surely the objective.

That being said definitely unproven but I would still say he's left swatragh in a much better place than when he started.

The Roscommon game under Dawson was the worst I ever saw.  Hard to know what to make of Mcginley to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 12, 2020, 09:56:43 PM
Left them in a better place ;D
They got beat by fkn Banagher last year for gods sake ;D, and lost to a brutal Magherafelt team this year. Fair enough they were defending champions etc but theyre shocking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Counties and clubs keep going after the big name
ie players who were great players in their day
Great players don't make great managers
Mickey Harte wasnt a big name player but look what hes done
But i suppose if the regular guy ( like us boys  on here ) don't apply  then what can you do
But if for example bannside and Milltown Row went up against Enda Mcginley and Bran McGuigan, who's going to get it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2020, 10:00:24 PM
To be fair magherafelt were defending champions. Slaughtneil did make them look ordinary but would have to most teams. I didn't realise banagher beat them the year before. Oops. Ok maybe I retract that he left them in a better place. I thought they had done better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 12, 2020, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Counties and clubs keep going after the big name
ie players who were great players in their day
Great players don't make great managers
Mickey Harte wasnt a big name player but look what hes done
But i suppose if the regular guy ( like us boys  on here ) don't apply  then what can you do
But if for example bannside and Milltown Row went up against Enda Mcginley and Bran McGuigan, who's going to get it ?
I'd rather bannside and MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2020, 10:05:32 PM
I'd rather Bannside and MR2 also, but not Belfast GAA man, he'd cost way to much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 12, 2020, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Counties and clubs keep going after the big name
ie players who were great players in their day
Great players don't make great managers
Mickey Harte wasnt a big name player but look what hes done
But i suppose if the regular guy ( like us boys  on here ) don't apply  then what can you do
But if for example bannside and Milltown Row went up against Enda Mcginley and Bran McGuigan, who's going to get it ?
I'd rather bannside and MR2

I do have some Croke Park experience  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Thatll do, you're hired !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2020, 10:17:04 PM
Cleaning the loo. Lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2020, 10:18:15 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Counties and clubs keep going after the big name
ie players who were great players in their day
Great players don't make great managers
Mickey Harte wasnt a big name player but look what hes done
But i suppose if the regular guy ( like us boys  on here ) don't apply  then what can you do
But if for example bannside and Milltown Row went up against Enda Mcginley and Bran McGuigan, who's going to get it ?

Houl on. Harte was our best player after McGuigan hit the states. Won fcuk all but still.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:23:05 PM
Some agenda against McGinley already and he hasnt even said he wants the job. With "Lost to a brutal Magherafelt team" the best one amongst the clueless comments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 12, 2020, 10:27:26 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 12, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
So Antrim are apparently after a guy who has done nothing in his two years as a manager with a promising team. Jesus christ the night. I'd say there are even lads on the board with a better managerial CV than Mcginley. Bizarre. But they can't complain if these are the guys theyre going after. If there was a division 5, antrim would be in it.

How would we be in a metaphorical Div 5, having finished 3rd in Div 4?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:51:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:23:05 PM
Some agenda against McGinley already and he hasnt even said he wants the job. With "Lost to a brutal Magherafelt team" the best one amongst the clueless comments.
I don't think it's so much an agenda against him. Surprise that someone with such a slim amount of management experience, let alone success, would be considered. And, if I'm honest, you'd probably be thinking the same if he had no connection to Cargin.
Define success, is it having to have won a senior champ? Not to many contenders within Antrim then. Nothing to do with his club connection.
Surely training methods, tactical awareness, ability to develop any youth we have is the criteria. A lazy analysis of a manager is on Senior Championships won. I rate Madden as a manager yet no senior championships as a manager. I would have no objection to him being Antrim manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:51:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:23:05 PM
Some agenda against McGinley already and he hasnt even said he wants the job. With "Lost to a brutal Magherafelt team" the best one amongst the clueless comments.
I don't think it's so much an agenda against him. Surprise that someone with such a slim amount of management experience, let alone success, would be considered. And, if I'm honest, you'd probably be thinking the same if he had no connection to Cargin.
Define success, is it having to have won a senior champ? Not to many contenders within Antrim then. Nothing to do with his club connection.
Surely training methods, tactical awareness, ability to develop any youth we have is the criteria. A lazy analysis of a manager is on Senior Championships won. I rate Madden as a manager yet no senior championships as a manager. I would have no objection to him being Antrim manager.

Did Madden win in another county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2020, 10:56:43 PM
Still think it's fairly arrogant of McGinley to possibly be thinking of going for the job and talking about director of football in the new Casement and him with no Derry titles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:51:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:23:05 PM
Some agenda against McGinley already and he hasnt even said he wants the job. With "Lost to a brutal Magherafelt team" the best one amongst the clueless comments.
I don't think it's so much an agenda against him. Surprise that someone with such a slim amount of management experience, let alone success, would be considered. And, if I'm honest, you'd probably be thinking the same if he had no connection to Cargin.
Define success, is it having to have won a senior champ? Not to many contenders within Antrim then. Nothing to do with his club connection.
Surely training methods, tactical awareness, ability to develop any youth we have is the criteria. A lazy analysis of a manager is on Senior Championships won. I rate Madden as a manager yet no senior championships as a manager. I would have no objection to him being Antrim manager.

Did Madden win in another county?
Manage a team to a championship in another county? Not that I know of anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:51:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:23:05 PM
Some agenda against McGinley already and he hasnt even said he wants the job. With "Lost to a brutal Magherafelt team" the best one amongst the clueless comments.
I don't think it's so much an agenda against him. Surprise that someone with such a slim amount of management experience, let alone success, would be considered. And, if I'm honest, you'd probably be thinking the same if he had no connection to Cargin.
Define success, is it having to have won a senior champ? Not to many contenders within Antrim then. Nothing to do with his club connection.
Surely training methods, tactical awareness, ability to develop any youth we have is the criteria. A lazy analysis of a manager is on Senior Championships won. I rate Madden as a manager yet no senior championships as a manager. I would have no objection to him being Antrim manager.

Did Madden win in another county?
Manage a team to a championship in another county? Not that I know of anyway

Coach manage, sure you were saying no difference to managers and coaches when talking about Naomh Gall  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2020, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2020, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:51:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 12, 2020, 10:23:05 PM
Some agenda against McGinley already and he hasnt even said he wants the job. With "Lost to a brutal Magherafelt team" the best one amongst the clueless comments.
I don't think it's so much an agenda against him. Surprise that someone with such a slim amount of management experience, let alone success, would be considered. And, if I'm honest, you'd probably be thinking the same if he had no connection to Cargin.
Define success, is it having to have won a senior champ? Not to many contenders within Antrim then. Nothing to do with his club connection.
Surely training methods, tactical awareness, ability to develop any youth we have is the criteria. A lazy analysis of a manager is on Senior Championships won. I rate Madden as a manager yet no senior championships as a manager. I would have no objection to him being Antrim manager.

Did Madden win in another county?
Manage a team to a championship in another county? Not that I know of anyway

Coach manage, sure you were saying no difference to managers and coaches when talking about Naomh Gall  ;)
Was just highlighting the hypocrisy of some people as regards paying people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on November 13, 2020, 08:29:55 AM
McGinley will go on to have a long and very successful career as a manager, be that with Antrim or whoever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 13, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
I see Frank Fitzsimmons is away to manage Leitrim, would he not have been an option for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2020, 01:03:09 PM
McGinley OUT!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 13, 2020, 01:55:37 PM
What a smashing idea. Bring back fitzy who was there the 3 years before Lenny and also failed to get out of division 4  :-\

Terry hyland is the manager of Leitrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on November 13, 2020, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
I see Frank Fitzsimmons is away to manage Leitrim, would he not have been an option for Antrim

Liatroim in Co Down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 13, 2020, 07:16:10 PM
Anyone hear who MC ginley is proposing to bring with him into the set up if he got the job.

Didn't MC Geeney walk straight into Kildare job with no managerial experience at any level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 13, 2020, 07:21:59 PM
Would yiz take Banty?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2020, 05:44:16 PM
waht is the process for appointing a new manager? do we involve the clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2020, 05:44:16 PM
waht is the process for appointing a new manager? do we involve the clubs?

Yes, clubs are asked to nominate, if you're a member of a club they'll have a process that you can nominate through your club.

You've till Wednesday to get your vote in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2020, 07:46:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2020, 05:44:16 PM
waht is the process for appointing a new manager? do we involve the clubs?

Yes, clubs are asked to nominate, if you're a member of a club they'll have a process that you can nominate through your club.

You've till Wednesday to get your vote in
Thanks - who are The confirmed candidates to vote for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 07:50:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2020, 07:46:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 15, 2020, 05:44:16 PM
waht is the process for appointing a new manager? do we involve the clubs?

Yes, clubs are asked to nominate, if you're a member of a club they'll have a process that you can nominate through your club.

You've till Wednesday to get your vote in
Thanks - who are The confirmed candidates to vote for?

Wouldn't know, your club secretary would have a fair idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 07:56:29 PM
Wouldn't imagine it's a vote, just nominations that clubs would want the county to seek?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 15, 2020, 08:03:40 PM
Antrim had an appointments committee, last time, who recommended the candidate for ratification by county executive  board/ county committee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 08:03:40 PM
Antrim had an appointments committee, last time, who recommended the candidate for ratification by county executive  board/ county committee.

Yes but I can remember something like this before, it's a good idea to seek nominations and then a committee can go after these people.

It's better than coming on the discussion board  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 15, 2020, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 08:03:40 PM
Antrim had an appointments committee, last time, who recommended the candidate for ratification by county executive  board/ county committee.

Yes but I can remember something like this before, it's a good idea to seek nominations and then a committee can go after these people.

It's better than coming on the discussion board  ;D

I was hoping that the county officers would take this opportunity to establish the same type of structures they have put in place for the senior hurlers. This is the time to put things in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2020, 09:12:46 AM
100% Delgany. We badly need a body or person to co ordinate football, make recomendations, offer support, sound out interest in future candidates, make sure we have some kind of joined up strategy re potentially elite players and their development etc etc.

I think Croke Pk did away with all these "sub committees" a few years back - thats not to say that we replace that space with Nothing!

Id prefer this was in place for this next appointment, but thats obviously far too late now. On that basis Ive no problem with the county chairman and one or two of his executive pro- actively going on a solo run to secure the availability of their preferred option. Theres always a risk involved in going on a solo run, but that is infinitely better than standing idly by and doing nothing. It signals ambition too which has been clearly lacking in some less than inspiring appointments over the years!

The County Chairmans recomendation to Antrim club delegates will obviously carry a lot of weight....and will pass easily....as the motion will be phrased to carry..... unless 50% of delegates in ths room object.  Nothing wrong with that I hear you say!!

I have seen this charade in action and Frankie Quinn is well aware of it, make no mistake. To object, a club delegate needs to raise their hand, or in the absence of a hand being raised it shall actually be assumed they support the recomendation!!

When anything to do with football is being discussed, many hurling only clubs switch off completely, and by doing nothing, their silence is interpreted as a vote in favour of the recomendation. For many of our hurling clubs, their only interest is to know the cost of the proposal - thats about the total limit of their concern!

Its absolutely vital we get this appointment right, whether its the official county board led one, or a late alternative proposal. As long as we get someone in who can take us to the next level thats the main thing at this stage. And after that, we expect Mr Mc Cavanagh to install a DOF who will in future preside over all matters of this type.

Coiste Baniste will get their opportunity to veto that recomendation at a later stage. Its called due process.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 16, 2020, 11:59:37 AM
By all accounts McGinley is in 'discussions' about taking the Antrim job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 16, 2020, 12:38:52 PM
I have seen this charade in action and Frankie Quinn is well aware of it, make no mistake. To object, a club delegate needs to raise their hand, or in the absence of a hand being raised it shall actually be assumed they support the recomendation!!


He'd know all about Charades the same boy Bannside!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
Its all about the way the proposal is positioned. There is some difference between "anyone opposing the recomendation please put up your hand" and "anyone who wishes to support this recomendation please put up your hand".

The apathy that existed towards anything football related from the hurling clubs practically guaranteed the executives proposal was passed.

Executive Officials do their term, come and go...but FQ is the one constant who should know exactly the difference between scenario A and Scenario B as listed above.

I called it out as a charade from the floor, on the night - and my opinion on that particular "charade" hasnt changed.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2020, 01:11:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 16, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
Its all about the way the proposal is positioned. There is some difference between "anyone opposing the recomendation please put up your hand" and "anyone who wishes to support this recomendation please put up your hand".

The apathy that existed towards anything football related from the hurling clubs practically guaranteed the executives proposal was passed.

Executive Officials do their term, come and go...but FQ is the one constant who should know exactly the difference between scenario A and Scenario B as listed above.

I called it out as a charade from the floor, on the night - and my opinion on that particular "charade" hasnt changed.

What way is it done in other dual counties? Do the hurling clubs step aside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 16, 2020, 02:40:55 PM
Bannside in relation to what you refer to, i actually think i was there in the night in question.

Was the issue not that you were not delegated by your club to attend this meeting? and this has been relayed to FQ? Hence the reason why you were shot down and asked to refrain from speaking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2020, 03:05:54 PM
Almost correct Stillwater2. There was no question that I had not been mandated by the club to attend (Im not that brazen lol) but that there was some rule which dictated that a change of delegate needed to be notified in advance (2 days or 2 hours or something). Funny that I could stay in the room but not permitted to talk!

Some very experienced club delegates beside me were telling me to stand my ground and that there was no such rule! (Still dont know if there is or not tbh). In any event I got to see the apathy for football and the charade I talk of being played out!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2020, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 16, 2020, 03:05:54 PM
Almost correct Stillwater2. There was no question that I had not been mandated by the club to attend (Im not that brazen lol) but that there was some rule which dictated that a change of delegate needed to be notified in advance (2 days or 2 hours or something). Funny that I could stay in the room but not permitted to talk!

Some very experienced club delegates beside me were telling me to stand my ground and that there was no such rule! (Still dont know if there is or not tbh). In any event I got to see the apathy for football and the charade I talk of being played out!

I doubt very much BS if a rule would have been invoked against you speaking if such a rule did not exist.

Again I am kind of lost as to why the hurling clubs appear to be getting blamed for the ills of the football fraternity in the county?
Clubs/ Delegates who are representing hurling clubs would not presume to speak up on footballing matters, this should be coming from the football clubs/ delegates.
Instead maybe of naval gazing and blaming hurling clubs for creating apathy maybe the football fraternity should get their heads together and come up with some plans to put to the county in terms of structures and in terms of coaching plans and even suggestions for the county management set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 17, 2020, 08:31:02 AM
I don't think anyone is suggesting hurling is to blame for the state of Antrim football, but it is unlikely that the hurling clubs will have any objections about the next football manager. It's not something they are worried about. And for this reason, the selection process seems flawed.

Would be interested to hear how it works in other dual counties if anyone knows. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2020, 08:33:58 AM
Nag no one at any stage is blaming hurling clubs for lack of football progress!!? Where do you get that from?

In fact come to think of it Im not sure the hurling clubs have actuslly that much to do with the recent mini revival of senior county hurling team. More like a handful of influential people got together and made it happen themselves.

Agree that football clubs need to be doing more to instigate a proper platform for progress. The reality is too many are wrapped up in their own affairs.

Id settle for a DOF with a proper support structure. That alone would be a good starting point. Its in the strategic plan for 2020 so maybe its in the offing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 18, 2020, 08:06:05 PM
Just seen this on Twitter

Paddy Bradiey was approached about and nominated for the vacant Antrim senior manager post, but has declined to allow his name to go forward.
He has committed to a second season with Loup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 18, 2020, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2020, 08:33:58 AM
Nag no one at any stage is blaming hurling clubs for lack of football progress!!? Where do you get that from?

In fact come to think of it Im not sure the hurling clubs have actuslly that much to do with the recent mini revival of senior county hurling team. More like a handful of influential people got together and made it happen themselves.

Agree that football clubs need to be doing more to instigate a proper platform for progress. The reality is too many are wrapped up in their own affairs.

Id settle for a DOF with a proper support structure. That alone would be a good starting point. Its in the strategic plan for 2020 so maybe its in the offing.

The county hurling team is doing well because they have a great squad of very talented hurlers. Furthermore they have great attacking threat and options; Ciaran Clarke, Conor McCann, James McNaughton, Neil McManus, Dan McCloskey, Niall McKenna, Domhnal Nugent and Keelan Molloy to name a few

They have pace all over the pitch. Those hurlers and the talent, pace and intensity they possess have nothing to do with a 'handful of influential people getting together'. It's a direct result of their individual talents and the development they received within their clubs.

The current management team are getting a lot out of them. That's why they're heading to Division 1 and are likely to win the second tier championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2020, 08:57:54 PM
We've had those players a few years now... i was at Corrigan two years ago a Kerry dumped us on are ass's we were second to every ball. Kerry bate us out the gate. All of those players were available, if they wanted to commit.

We've now got a squad of players who are willing to commit for a set up that they've bought into.

I can't remember, possibly Bradley's set up, that all the best Football players bought into it.

We've plenty to pick from, plenty of divisions in Antrim both football and hurling..

We've no reason to have players who'd prefer to win with their club than their county, that mindset seems to be brought about by a lack of success at inter county level.

What's more important? This is an unusually strange year for county teams as they have their full pick, I'd say that the hurlers are missing a few other starters on that team.. injury may be a factor.. have we everyone for the footballers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 18, 2020, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 18, 2020, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2020, 08:33:58 AM
Nag no one at any stage is blaming hurling clubs for lack of football progress!!? Where do you get that from?

In fact come to think of it Im not sure the hurling clubs have actuslly that much to do with the recent mini revival of senior county hurling team. More like a handful of influential people got together and made it happen themselves.

Agree that football clubs need to be doing more to instigate a proper platform for progress. The reality is too many are wrapped up in their own affairs.

Id settle for a DOF with a proper support structure. That alone would be a good starting point. Its in the strategic plan for 2020 so maybe its in the offing.

The county hurling team is doing well because they have a great squad of very talented hurlers. Furthermore they have great attacking threat and options; Ciaran Clarke, Conor McCann, James McNaughton, Neil McManus, Dan McCloskey, Niall McKenna, Domhnal Nugent and Keelan Molloy to name a few

They have pace all over the pitch. Those hurlers and the talent, pace and intensity they possess have nothing to do with a 'handful of influential people getting together'. It's a direct result of their individual talents and the development they received within their clubs.

The current management team are getting a lot out of them. That's why they're heading to Division 1 and are likely to win the second tier championship.

Great to see someone with a bit of sense, it boils down the quality of the coaching within the clubs to produce the player first, then add in the management, structure, supports, ambition and drive. Our football clubs are not producing enough players with quality. As I mentioned before our club Creggan have played local minor & u16 Derry clubs in friendlies and we seldom get close to them. Why is that do u think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2020, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 18, 2020, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 18, 2020, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2020, 08:33:58 AM
Nag no one at any stage is blaming hurling clubs for lack of football progress!!? Where do you get that from?

In fact come to think of it Im not sure the hurling clubs have actuslly that much to do with the recent mini revival of senior county hurling team. More like a handful of influential people got together and made it happen themselves.

Agree that football clubs need to be doing more to instigate a proper platform for progress. The reality is too many are wrapped up in their own affairs.

Id settle for a DOF with a proper support structure. That alone would be a good starting point. Its in the strategic plan for 2020 so maybe its in the offing.

The county hurling team is doing well because they have a great squad of very talented hurlers. Furthermore they have great attacking threat and options; Ciaran Clarke, Conor McCann, James McNaughton, Neil McManus, Dan McCloskey, Niall McKenna, Domhnal Nugent and Keelan Molloy to name a few

They have pace all over the pitch. Those hurlers and the talent, pace and intensity they possess have nothing to do with a 'handful of influential people getting together'. It's a direct result of their individual talents and the development they received within their clubs.

The current management team are getting a lot out of them. That's why they're heading to Division 1 and are likely to win the second tier championship.

Great to see someone with a bit of sense, it boils down the quality of the coaching within the clubs to produce the player first, then add in the management, structure, supports, ambition and drive. Our football clubs are not producing enough players with quality. As I mentioned before our club Creggan have played local minor & u16 Derry clubs in friendlies and we seldom get close to them. Why is that do u think?

Rubbish, we managed to play in three Ulster finals two All Ireland finals and win one! Cargin pushed us every year, two teams pushing and developing players.

Hurling produced 3 teams during that period, Cushendall, Loughgiel and Dunloy, one team won a final the other reached its first.

Clubs have been doing tremendous work. That's unfair on the coaches who have produced those players.

Why your club has failed to win a championship is because they have ran up against a strongly motivated quality team. It's a mind issue for me as they have the quality to play and beat the best teams in Antrim and pit themselves against the rest.

Ask yourself one question, does your club put the same effort into its under 10 as it does it's senior team?

What Derry teams have on us is better schools football. Why no one can see that is daft!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 18, 2020, 10:17:32 PM
Two schools who pull students from a large demographic area  and both pull from South west Antrim. Players who will have been coached within their clubs before any coach at a school gets a hold of them. I would say of the 2 clubs in the county final this year most of the players went to school in county Derry if not all of them.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2020, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 18, 2020, 10:17:32 PM
Two schools who pull students from a large demographic area  and both pull from South west Antrim. Players who will have been coached within their clubs before any coach at a school gets a hold of them. I would say of the 2 clubs in the county final this year most of the players went to school in county Derry if not all of them.

And that's bore fruit..

The clubs in Belfast, which have the most titles in Antrim have only had brief wins in McRory cup over the years. It's not enough and we don't produce enough kids at another level that will bring that through to county level.

The ones that have it, McCanns, lads from the recent Armagh school have shown that they can play at a bigger level because of the good conditioning they got.

The more school teams we can produce the better players, the more we'll compete.

I've seen it recently through refereeing schools games around the province. These are mature strong athletes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 18, 2020, 11:05:32 PM
Who are the "suprise new contenders" for the Antrim job the Irish News are reporting tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 19, 2020, 08:11:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 18, 2020, 11:05:32 PM
Who are the "suprise new contenders" for the Antrim job the Irish News are reporting tomorrow?

Micky Harte hopefully lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 19, 2020, 09:49:31 AM

A MANAGEMENT team of former Crossmaglen boss Tony McEntee and ex-Antrim ace Kevin Madden have thrown their hats into the ring to take over the Saffron reins from Lenny Harbinson.

Ever since the Belfast man stepped down last week, Tyrone's three-time All-Ireland winner Enda McGinley has been regarded as the clear front-runner – with his proposed backroom team expected to include another former Red Hand star, Stephen O'Neill.

However, McEntee and Madden added a major twist to proceedings when they entered the race before nominations closed yesterday lunchtime, while former Down and Armagh boss Paddy O'Rourke is also believed to be in the frame.

A management team of Derry's Paddy Bradley – whose father Liam led the Saffrons to the 2009 Ulster final - and ex-Antrim player Kevin Brady was also in the running, but have since withdrawn from the process.

Interviews with the Antrim County Board will take place over the course of the coming days, with an appointment expected early next week.

McEntee and Madden were also in contention for the Monaghan job when Malachy O'Rourke stepped aside last year and, having stayed in touch since their Ulster University days, the pair are keen to get involved on the inter-county stage together.

Madden was recently part of Mickey Harte's Tyrone backroom team, while McEntee – alongside Gareth O'Neill - led his home club to All-Ireland titles in 2011 and 2012.

The 2002 All-Ireland winner added to his reputation when he was part of Stephen Rochford's Mayo backroom team for three years, during which time the westerners were Dublin's greatest challengers in the search for Sam Maguire.

"Tony was always a guy I liked and respected both as a player and for what he's done in management," said Madden last night.

"I've never made any secret of the fact that I'm passionate to be involved in the management of my own county, and whenever you're talking about working with somebody of the calibre of Tony McEntee, and the CV he has, it is something I would be interested in doing.

"Antrim have been loitering around Division Four, we've been very unlucky the last couple of years to miss out on promotion, but I'd like to think myself and Tony would bring a real fresh energy and a serious standard of coaching.

"Tony has massive experience from his time with Mayo, he's a two-time All-Ireland winning club manager, and I just feel that together we could give the people of Antrim a football team that they would be proud of."

That said, Madden admitted he does have some reservations about the "integrity of the process to this point", with McGinley confirming in a weekend radio interview that he had already held talks about the vacancy.

"We've been nominated for the post and been asked to attend an interview, though we do have some concerns about the integrity of the process to this point," said Madden

"There's no ifs or buts about me and Tony McEntee wanting to come and manage Antrim, that's something we really want to do, but we have to make sure it's a level playing field we are entering."

On his recent role with Tyrone, Madden admitted he was saddened to be leaving following Mickey Harte's departure, but insisted the past year had proved "invaluable" in terms of the experience he has gained as a coach.

"Unbelievably so," he said.

"When you're tasked with coaching and communicating game-plans to take on the likes of Dublin, Kerry, Donegal and so on, you know you are operating at a high level. There's not a second wasted in those sessions leading into a game. It's intense, it's all game related and it pushes the boundaries of your comfort zone, which can only be a good thing.

"Although it was only a short period of time, it gave you a real appreciation about the level of detail and meticulous preparation involved in preparing a county like Tyrone, who have been among the top three or four teams in Ireland for a long time.

"It's been invaluable, and at the same time an enjoyable experience."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2020, 11:06:18 AM
Can't really complain much about the candidates this year! Will it come down to the cheapest option though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 19, 2020, 11:33:58 AM
That's a game changer there. No brainer IMO
Everything we should be looking in a new mgt team

Couldn't believe what I read on bbc yesterday that oneill is still going to manage a club team and double job with Antrim. That on its own is a red card.

Anyone know else is in for it? I heard either Aidan O'rourke or paddy Orourke mentioned. Not sure which
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2020, 01:26:19 PM
I would give it to McEntee and Madden. Getting someone like Tony McEntee along the line for Antrim would be huge. Madden would also bring qualities as well but I do think he may be overstating his role with Tyrone in the above article though this is not overly relevant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2020, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 19, 2020, 11:06:18 AM
Can't really complain much about the candidates this year! Will it come down to the cheapest option though?

How cheap will either of them be? I'd assume they'd be looking the same training conditions in place, the same effort from the county that the hurlers are getting ... Fairs fair, in fairness  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2020, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2020, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 19, 2020, 11:06:18 AM
Can't really complain much about the candidates this year! Will it come down to the cheapest option though?

How cheap will either of them be? I'd assume they'd be looking the same training conditions in place, the same effort from the county that the hurlers are getting ... Fairs fair, in fairness  ;)

There could be a cheap option in for it yet!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 19, 2020, 11:21:52 PM
Cant say Antrim haven't been a bit more ambitious this time out. 2 (or 4 if you count all of McGinleys) all Ireland winners.  McEntee more managerial experience than McGinley but then McG brings Stephen O'Neill as assistant manager who definitely has the kudos over Madden who is yet to crack senior management.  Tight call.  Players will definitely listen to McGinley, O'Neill and McEntee who have been there and won it all, and no one in Antrim is going to win a 'show us yer medals' contest. Every player on that Antrim squad will listen to whatever those 3 men say as Gospel so mentally, Antrim should improve and hopefully get out of Div 4.

McGinley and O'Neill bring the wow factor but McEntee brings more experience. The Cargin lads wont want Madden in there so to avoid friction, probably the McG & O'Neill combo works.

Either way, both options are huge step ups from what has gone on before so fair play to the county board and Chairman this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2020, 11:29:12 PM
Cargin calling the shots?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2020, 11:38:38 PM
If McGinley is manager then they'll all play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 20, 2020, 12:19:38 AM
Typical spike and his anti madden agenda.

Let's take personalities and club politics out of it.

2 management teams. One that has 20+ years of coaching experience at club & county.
McEntee has managed cross to win a couple of all-Ireland club titles and many have said the brains behind Rochford at Mayo when they got so close. He would command instant respect. Madden has managed various Derry clubs. Coached Glenullin to a championship. Took us to our first ever league title and only for horrendous finishing we would have had our first county title in 50 years. Has inter-county experience with Derry & Tyrone as well as being an Antrim man.

McGinley and O'Neill have about 4 years combined experience behind them with zero success. Oneill is in his first ever management job and he intends to continue with that as well as coach antrim. So we are going to employ McGinley as a county manager with a grand total of 2 years club experience where he wasn't even close to winning a championship ahead of Tony McEntee. I'm embarrassed for you  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 20, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Cranfield, in truth, the thing that's embarrassing here is you being KM's fanboy with your over the top reaction.... and also the fact that you didn't really read my post pointing out that McEntee/Madden is a credible combo. Please leave the personal insults at the door. I don't have an anti KM agenda, I just don't think we should be encouraging mediocrity, highlighted by your peculiar take on that dire county final and the tactics employed.. Please give The Baker the credit he deserves for winning that championship with Glenullin, We'll have agree to disagree.   

But Call a spade a spade - McEntee is the draw here, and a very credible draw at that, good experience, success, has won the lot, and if Antrim appoint him then no one can have any complaints. 

Whether you like it or not McGinley / O'Neill combo carries weight, not just for their 'wow' factor, prestige, medals, success and experience, but also because they carry no politics into the setup unlike the McEntee/Madden combo. a young Swatragh team were beat by the reigning Derry county champs this year - hardly an affront. Hes a young manager, drawing on his vast experience and success, working alongside a living football legend. Experience is certainly in McEntee's favour. If McEntee is appointed I for one will not be complaining. I'm happy with either appointment though id prefer the McG/O'Neill combo.

I'll repeat again just so you don't misunderstand me again: ''Either way, both options are huge step ups from what has gone on before so fair play to the county board and Chairman this time''

MR2 - I don't see Cargin calling the shots on this one but a settled and contented camp will do no harm.

Jim Stynes - Id say any of them that went up last year will expect to play this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2020, 01:13:03 AM
I'd like to see more Cargin lads on the team tbf.

Just that your post was a bit blackmaily tongue in cheek style.

Look there was huge interest last time and great to see same approach, speed of appointment is important as we want/need to hit the pitch running.

Be interested in seeing the commitment of coach if in fact he is properly on board, SON was a serious operator on the pitch, let's see how well he is on the line.

Is this another 3 year plan from both interviewees?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 20, 2020, 01:24:33 AM
There is always a 3 year plan!  ;D   

County board and chairman have been on the front foot and got good credible potentials. Id say McG has been on radar longer as the McEntee interest seems to have been a reaction from the weekends events.

The bigger question is McG, SON, or McE ready for Antrim? Mentality totally different from Tyrone or Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 20, 2020, 07:55:27 AM
Quote from: Cranfield on November 20, 2020, 12:19:38 AM
Typical spike and his anti madden agenda.

Let's take personalities and club politics out of it.

2 management teams. One that has 20+ years of coaching experience at club & county.
McEntee has managed cross to win a couple of all-Ireland club titles and many have said the brains behind Rochford at Mayo when they got so close. He would command instant respect. Madden has managed various Derry clubs. Coached Glenullin to a championship. Took us to our first ever league title and only for horrendous finishing we would have had our first county title in 50 years. Has inter-county experience with Derry & Tyrone as well as being an Antrim man.

McGinley and O'Neill have about 4 years combined experience behind them with zero success. Oneill is in his first ever management job and he intends to continue with that as well as coach antrim. So we are going to employ McGinley as a county manager with a grand total of 2 years club experience where he wasn't even close to winning a championship ahead of Tony McEntee. I'm embarrassed for you  ???
Thats a version of the county final I havent heard before Keep believing!!!
You need a bit more balance hopefully you arent one of the interviewers. You cant discount all the playing success Mcginley and O neill had at that ultimate level. McGinley I think won one or else two county minor champs with his club, Has madden even managed an underage team to a championship?. Why is McGinleys or O Neills 2 years as a senior club manager with no success more relevant than maddens 10 or so years as a club manager with zero success (if success is judged on championships)
I am balanced however and I would give it to McEntee and Madden. Seem like a stronger overall pairing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 20, 2020, 08:28:10 AM
So is it a two horse race then?  McGinley/O'Neill Vs Madden/McEntee.

Or does anyone know different?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 20, 2020, 10:56:41 AM
have Antrim put their money up? highest profile people interested Ever Or seen as stepping stone to bigger jobs for these boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2020, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 20, 2020, 10:56:41 AM
have Antrim put their money up? highest profile people interested Ever Or seen as stepping stone to bigger jobs for these boys

Doing it for free
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 20, 2020, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 20, 2020, 10:56:41 AM
have Antrim put their money up? highest profile people interested Ever Or seen as stepping stone to bigger jobs for these boys

I was wondering this myself.

The Armagh man is not coming cheap by any stretch and KM has been used to being well expensed in previous roles, so the whole package is going to take serious investment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 20, 2020, 12:23:33 PM
Armagh a good bit closer than Tipp....Less 45p  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 20, 2020, 12:43:54 PM
Its great to read about theses potential management teams. So to summarise we have

McEntee/Madden
McGinley/O'Neill
O'Rourke
Cassidy
McKeever

I think that's the names I read that were linked with the senior job. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. One comment on McEntee, I read above where some poster credited him with Mayo. I think Rockford has demonstrated his prowess by what he has contributed to Donegal's attacking game plan over the past two years. They are now serious All ireland contenders. Mayo have floundered since he left. Just an observation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2020, 05:07:57 PM
The first three on that list are in contention at this stage. DC choosing to remain at Erins Own with JMK fully committed to Wolfe Tones for another year.  Both would have been very strong candidates, all about timing. The board deserve credit for pushing the boat out further than ever. Good luck to the winning proposal, Antrim football needs a big lift and the players are there to do it. May God guide the decision makers over the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 20, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
McEntee/Madden or McGinley/O'Neil is a nice problem to have for Antrim. Both high profile and bringing plenty of outside experience. Some people will favour one pair over the other but everyone should be more than happy enough with whatever pair gets the gig. Antrim aren't really giving people a lot of reasons to attract big names so well done to the county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 21, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
Enda Mc Ginley appointed as new senior football manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2020, 04:17:46 PM
Just about to post that. Sean Kelly part of the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 21, 2020, 04:19:26 PM
Stephen ONeill, Stephen Quinn & Sean Kelly( st Galls ).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Who's Stephen Quinn?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 21, 2020, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Who's Stephen Quinn?

S&C ?/ Coach, involved with Tyrone football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 04:40:49 PM
Any complaints? Sounds like a good team and set up. Still would have liked some of Tony McEntee's input but overall it sounds like its a good setup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 21, 2020, 04:51:56 PM
For once we had great options. Good luck to them. Shrewd move bringing Sean kelly on board as well. Players will have instant respect. Exciting times ahead hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 21, 2020, 04:58:25 PM
I think we've missed a trick not going with the Madden/McEntee ticket, however best of luck to Enda McGinley and his team. They'll have my support for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 21, 2020, 05:10:25 PM
I would have preferred the Madden & McEntee ticket as well due to the gulf in experience but Enda McGinley has potential so hopefully he can turn the tide next year.
Glad to see Sean Kelly in backroom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mikhailov on November 21, 2020, 05:11:55 PM
Antrim must have some serious financial backing because they are going to need it to keep that set up happy. Was Cassidy an option or not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2020, 05:12:51 PM
I'd still of preferred bannside and Milltown Row
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 05:13:24 PM
McEntee ticket may have been an expensive one! I think that's a good set up and one that will get the players motivated and excited about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: on the sideline on November 21, 2020, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 21, 2020, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Who's Stephen Quinn?

S&C ?/ Coach, involved with Tyrone football

Used to coach for the Tyrone Co. Board, then the Ulster Council and is now a primary school teacher in Armagh somewhere. Definitely don't think he's a S&C coach though. Been with McGinley in Swatragh this past few years. Errigal man too. Decent coach from what I've heard of him.

As high profile as that management team sounds I don't think many/any of them have tasted much success with any of the teams they've coached/managed so far. Seems as though a high profile from your playing days is enough to get big jobs regardless of your management/coaching cv.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 21, 2020, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on November 21, 2020, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 21, 2020, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Who's Stephen Quinn?

S&C ?/ Coach, involved with Tyrone football

Used to coach for the Tyrone Co. Board, then the Ulster Council and is now a primary school teacher in Armagh somewhere. Definitely don't think he's a S&C coach though. Been with McGinley in Swatragh this past few years. Errigal man too. Decent coach from what I've heard of him.

As high profile as that management team sounds I don't think many/any of them have tasted much success with any of the teams they've coached/managed so far. Seems as though a high profile from your playing days is enough to get big jobs regardless of your management/coaching cv.



There in good company then, neither have we sideline!!! Sean Kelly a master stroke, absolute gent and what a player, would have made any county team in the land.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2020, 06:07:56 PM
Congratulations to the new and very exciting management team. Lets get fully behind them from day one. Hopefully the start of an exciting era for Antrim Football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2020, 05:12:51 PM
I'd still of preferred bannside and Milltown Row

Worked out too expensive as we'd Jim Gavin on our ticket!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 21, 2020, 09:26:19 PM
County board must be broke. Don't know how Mcginley got appointed over Mcentee when you look at the gulf in class regarding their CVs, at least Mcentee has a credible CV. Taking the cheap option the only explanation.
Maybe the county board should use some of the hurling money..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 21, 2020, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2020, 05:12:51 PM
I'd still of preferred bannside and Milltown Row

Worked out too expensive as we'd Jim Gavin on our ticket!

Jim Gavin didn't take a washer from Dublin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 21, 2020, 10:28:54 PM
Go luck to McGinley and his team. We'll looking forward to the next few years.

Quote from: Saffrongael on November 21, 2020, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2020, 05:12:51 PM
I'd still of preferred bannside and Milltown Row

Worked out too expensive as we'd Jim Gavin on our ticket!

Jim Gavin didn't take a washer from Dublin

I won't be replying to this  utter nonsense. 😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 21, 2020, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 21, 2020, 10:28:54 PM
Go luck to McGinley and his team. We'll looking forward to the next few years.

Quote from: Saffrongael on November 21, 2020, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2020, 05:12:51 PM
I'd still of preferred bannside and Milltown Row

Worked out too expensive as we'd Jim Gavin on our ticket!

Jim Gavin didn't take a washer from Dublin

I won't be replying to this  utter nonsense. 😂😂

It's a fact

Not every IC manager is Micky Harte
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 21, 2020, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 21, 2020, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on November 21, 2020, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 21, 2020, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Who's Stephen Quinn?

S&C ?/ Coach, involved with Tyrone football

Used to coach for the Tyrone Co. Board, then the Ulster Council and is now a primary school teacher in Armagh somewhere. Definitely don't think he's a S&C coach though. Been with McGinley in Swatragh this past few years. Errigal man too. Decent coach from what I've heard of him.

As high profile as that management team sounds I don't think many/any of them have tasted much success with any of the teams they've coached/managed so far. Seems as though a high profile from your playing days is enough to get big jobs regardless of your management/coaching cv.



There in good company then, neither have we sideline!!! Sean Kelly a master stroke, absolute gent and what a player, would have made any county team in the land.
kelly was great club player but don't remember him being good for county ? ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2020, 11:19:19 PM
The buckfast must be flowing tonight...

Good luck to the new manager and backroom team..

I'm glad we've sensible people looking after things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Take_her_back_ref on November 22, 2020, 08:48:48 AM
I'm surprised that Antrim went for McGinley/O'Neill over Madden/McEntee. Enda and Stevie could go in and do a fantastic job with Antrim and from what I hear Stevie seems to be pretty decent, but if you look at it, none of the top teams would take a punt on management with 3 years club management between them. Granted, Antrim aren't one of the top teams, but why should they not approach their management choices in the same way?

I suppose time will tell with this one. Good luck to them. If they do well we can thank you for preparing them for their homecoming a few years down the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
The only way is up. But we need a under 17 team that's actually starting to do strength and conditioning now, they need to be developing their game and challenging Ulster counties, they need to be progressing through the ranks and encouraged by club and county.

Sometime we look like we have zero ambition when there is in house bitching between clubs and managers. We are not in a position for our best players not committing. If they aren't the questions should be asked, what would bring you to the set up... 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 10:06:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2020, 09:51:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
The only way is up.
Don't bank on it.

We can't be relegated and haven't won a championship match in a while so..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2020, 10:27:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 10:06:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2020, 09:51:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
The only way is up.
Don't bank on it.

We can't be relegated and haven't won a championship match in a while so..
We could finish bottom.

3rd in div 4 feels like bottom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 22, 2020, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
The only way is up. But we need a under 17 team that's actually starting to do strength and conditioning now, they need to be developing their game and challenging Ulster counties, they need to be progressing through the ranks and encouraged by club and county.

Sometime we look like we have zero ambition when there is in house bitching between clubs and managers. We are not in a position for our best players not committing. If they aren't the questions should be asked, what would bring you to the set up... 

Regarding the U17's you're research mustn't have been very in depth. The 2020 U17 group have been on a tailored S&C plan from October 2019 set out and implemented by a qualified coach with periodic testing to ensure progression, which was evident.

2020 was obviously disjointed with only one U17 league game being played, a home win against Armagh. This particular group have been together from U15 and in that time have registered wins against, Derry, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Donegal and Tyrone within Ulster. Beat Louth, drew with Meath and run Dublin to within 2 points in Dublin and competed well against Mayo that same day.

Competitiveness at U17 level certainly isn't a problem there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 12:28:28 PM
So less than a year in we are doing this? Great fantastic news..

When these lads get to senior level they will at the very least physically prepared, providing they commit and buy into it..

We would need to continue this from here on in, it should not be just for a few years as that needs to be the new normal.

When we are competitive every year at that level then the confidence will move through to senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2020, 01:27:35 PM
This is brilliant, exactly what is needed. We need to make sure that this is not just one particularly well organised year group, but part of a bigger joined up programme from about under 15 right through. The next priority for CMC and co is to ensure that a management structure is in place to oversee this, a group (or person) charged with the responsibility of sourcing and mentoring every single player that is deemed to have potential to play senior county football.

The good thing is we seem to have leadership at board level that appears to have genuine ambition for Antrim football. Credit where its due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2020, 07:03:30 PM
When we were holding our own nicely for large spells a few weeks ago against Cavan who would have guessed they would be crowned Ulster champions. That is at least a crumb of encourage for the new management team, and its only fair and right to say that the system Lenny used against them was as effective as any.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 22, 2020, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 22, 2020, 07:03:30 PM
When we were holding our own nicely for large spells a few weeks ago against Cavan who would have guessed they would be crowned Ulster champions. That is at least a crumb of encourage for the new management team, and its only fair and right to say that the system Lenny used against them was as effective as any.

Ah come on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 22, 2020, 07:36:42 PM
I don't think we can compare the Cavan side from today to the one that played against Antrim. If antrim would have beaten Cavan they'd have been tanked in the next game and god knows what Donegal would have done. That Cavan team was full of hunger and desire tonight, a brilliant display and well worth their win.  Great to see them winning it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 22, 2020, 07:45:09 PM
That Cavan team today looked a different team today to be fair. Shows how a team can grow in confidence after a few wins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 23, 2020, 01:14:13 PM
Can't help but think we have missed a trick not going for McEntee and Madden. By all accounts McEntee was highly thought of in Mayo and that Mayo team pushed this nearly unbeatable Dublin team as close as anyone.

McEntee - won an all Ireland playing and managed cross to 2 club AI's.
Madden - Coach with Glenullin winning championship, Derry and Tyrone county coaching experience. Lead Creggan to county final and did improve them.

McGinley - won AI as player.  Managed Swatragh and is related to the McCanns
Stephen O'Neill - won AI as player. Managed Dungiven
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
Here we go. McGinley out!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2020, 01:42:20 PM
Stevie Quinn is well regarded as a coach and obviously the Sean Kelly effect would have also added significant value too. Probably a close shave, and only the co officials interviewing are in a position to say where the tipping point was in favour of EMG.

Kevin /Tony would have had support too, also Im sure Paddy O Rourke didnt go down without a fight, but the jury has ruled and the show must go on.

Enda has got the job and will need all our support to create a mindset for Antrim to kick on. Lets get behind him now and hope some tangible progress is forthcoming during his term. Upwards and onwards...Saffron Abu.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 23, 2020, 02:14:49 PM
Bannside - if you are going to try and come across as balanced at least try and be truthful.

It was out there weeks ago now that EMG had been approached and offered the position. Any other ticket in reality were at a disadvantage and possibly wasting their time. Was the interview process just a bluff?

Surprised you weren't backing the madden/McEntee ticket btw Bannside with the Antrim connection & you being a portglenone man and all.

I'd be fairly hopeful that EMG can evolve into a good manager but I fear for potential conflict due to the family connection. That's a difficult situation for him to manage given his lack of experience. Perhaps a bigger concern is the fact the oneill is double jobbing with managing a club. I don't agree with that and should have been made choose as we won't get his full attention.

Never heard of this Quinn fella you speak of. Glad to see sean in there even if he is number 4 in the setup I'd expect he will be a good sound board for the players they should be picking.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2020, 05:04:09 PM
I assume by your posts that you were very close to this process and understand that you are frustrated because you may never know the reason why your (preferred) ticket did not endure. Neither do I to be honest, I wasnt involved so how would I know. No doubt the board proactively went after their men, making it difficult for anyone to come from behind. Only time will tell if its the right decision but the reality is we may never know. But its done now, let it go, and get behind the successful application.

Whats the alternative?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 23, 2020, 05:16:12 PM
Decision made so its either get behind the man now, or dont up to yourself.
Sounds like Madden has more fans in Creggan than in Portglenone. Maybe Madden will be back at the helm in Creggan as hes now job hunting and hes so highly thought of there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on November 23, 2020, 05:36:26 PM
Enda Mc ginlay thinks it gonna be a split season and that's why Steven o Neil can double job. Not sure that will be the case. If Antrim draw Derry in championship there is some conflict there! Fair play Stevie though , must love helping Antrim and Derry football!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 23, 2020, 06:12:42 PM
EOC we are quite happy with the McNulty brothers in Creggan so we won't be bringing Madden or any previous managers back.

I have no inside knowledge of the process BS merely going by EMG interviews since the Cavan game which seemed to suggest he was considering the role.

We got two ex Tyrone all-stars with limited experience but undoubted potential. I've seen a time we might have jumped at that so it's not a bad appointment just not my preference as stated.

I'll be behind the team no matter who's in charge. Do people see many new faces being brought in? From ourselves I'd like to see Ruairi McCann and the Smalls back in and a few cargin men that have opted out along with some of there newer blood.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2020, 07:19:23 PM
Creggan people I talk too are very pleased with the Mc Nulty brothers, doing a fantastic job for free. The players you mention would be on my panel all day and there are a few others to boot. Good to see more positivity Cranfield. All in this together now.

Kevin Maddens day will still come, in management terms he is still young. Maybe the timing was wrong this time round as the EMG ticket was well advanced. Put it behind and get behind the new team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 07:26:03 PM
So all the complaining of not having a SW manager last time out has disappeared?

I was all for that happening....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2020, 07:45:49 PM
Youre such a beacon of impartiality MR...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2020, 08:04:27 PM
Convention time upon us once more  not too many challenging for the main positions, everybody here must be happy enough...lol.

Interesting challenge going on for the two Ulster Delegate positions. Five go to post, amongst them Sean Kelly who took us all by surprise with his unbelievable dedication and energy he brought to the PRO job for the last 5 years. He is up against a few experienced campaigners but imagine that bundle of Saffron energy let loose amongst the hallowed halls of Ulster council. Be fantastic to see him get a seat!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
I'd keep my counsel on that until we see how we do against them. Every team in Div 4 will raise their game for that one lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 08:55:54 PM
Must be loving the the buzz of taking teams...

After all those years you'd like the odd season to chill out, be more money at punditry surely? Sky, BBC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 08:55:54 PM
Must be loving the the buzz of taking teams...

After all those years you'd like the odd season to chill out, be more money at punditry surely? Sky, BBC

Would doubt it. Those gigs are a fee per show, Harte was on a significant salary in Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redzone on November 23, 2020, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 08:55:54 PM
Must be loving the the buzz of taking teams...

After all those years you'd like the odd season to chill out, be more money at punditry surely? Sky, BBC

Would doubt it. Those gigs are a fee per show, Harte was on a significant salary in Tyrone
Nobody really knows what harte was on in Tyrone, but it mighten have been as much people think, it was his own county after all. But I'd say he wouldn't be cheap to go elsewhere. I'm sure it's not the Louth county board who ate paying it either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 09:45:27 PM
To be honest, and I could be wrong on this, but I wouldn't be too sure Harte is a mercenary at all. Also reading this thread I would expect Damien Cassidy and those mcnulty boys to be driving ferraris based on what I read but I am not sure on the accuracy on the money managers are being paid at all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 09:57:49 PM
Mickey Harte will be driving to Louth for free! Mileage money only. £100 per mile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 09:45:27 PM
To be honest, and I could be wrong on this, but I wouldn't be too sure Harte is a mercenary at all. Also reading this thread I would expect Damien Cassidy and those mcnulty boys to be driving ferraris based on what I read but I am not sure on the accuracy on the money managers are being paid at all!

I'm certain Harte is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mikhailov on November 23, 2020, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 09:45:27 PM
To be honest, and I could be wrong on this, but I wouldn't be too sure Harte is a mercenary at all. Also reading this thread I would expect Damien Cassidy and those mcnulty boys to be driving ferraris based on what I read but I am not sure on the accuracy on the money managers are being paid at all!

I'm certain Harte is

I'm certain you are wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on November 23, 2020, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 09:45:27 PM
To be honest, and I could be wrong on this, but I wouldn't be too sure Harte is a mercenary at all. Also reading this thread I would expect Damien Cassidy and those mcnulty boys to be driving ferraris based on what I read but I am not sure on the accuracy on the money managers are being paid at all!

I'm certain Harte is

I'm certain you are wrong.

Just did it for the love of it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 10:08:08 PM
The bare minimum would be expenses. No one should out of pocket
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
I dunno much about louth's finances but if he was such a mercenary I would expect him to be going to a much bigger county.

Yeah no one could quibble with expenses etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mikhailov on November 23, 2020, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on November 23, 2020, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 23, 2020, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 09:45:27 PM
To be honest, and I could be wrong on this, but I wouldn't be too sure Harte is a mercenary at all. Also reading this thread I would expect Damien Cassidy and those mcnulty boys to be driving ferraris based on what I read but I am not sure on the accuracy on the money managers are being paid at all!

I'm certain Harte is

I'm certain you are wrong.

Just did it for the love of it ?

I didn't say he did. But he wasn't getting anywhere near the sort of money you are implying. Nowhere near the figures suggested. Antrim are paying big bucks for their new set up for sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 23, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
I dunno much about louth's finances but if he was such a mercenary I would expect him to be going to a much bigger county.

Yeah no one could quibble with expenses etc.
Morgan Fuels.

Statsports is the money man behind it apparently. Mickey Harte was on big money in Tyrone, Antrim couldn't afford him. But it's a big risk for his legacy going to the Louth. What can he actually achieve with them. At least with the likes of antirm the only way is up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 23, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
I dunno much about louth's finances but if he was such a mercenary I would expect him to be going to a much bigger county.

Yeah no one could quibble with expenses etc.
Morgan Fuels.

Statsports is the money man behind it apparently. Mickey Harte was on big money in Tyrone, Antrim couldn't afford him. But it's a big risk for his legacy going to the Louth. What can he actually achieve with them. At least with the likes of antirm the only way is up.

You got a link to that info  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 23, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
I dunno much about louth's finances but if he was such a mercenary I would expect him to be going to a much bigger county.

Yeah no one could quibble with expenses etc.
Morgan Fuels.

Statsports is the money man behind it apparently. Mickey Harte was on big money in Tyrone, Antrim couldn't afford him. But it's a big risk for his legacy going to the Louth. What can he actually achieve with them. At least with the likes of antirm the only way is up.

You got a link to that info  ;D

The link wouldn't want me to disclose that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 24, 2020, 09:55:13 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2020, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 23, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 23, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
I dunno much about louth's finances but if he was such a mercenary I would expect him to be going to a much bigger county.

Yeah no one could quibble with expenses etc.
Morgan Fuels.

Statsports is the money man behind it apparently. Mickey Harte was on big money in Tyrone, Antrim couldn't afford him. But it's a big risk for his legacy going to the Louth. What can he actually achieve with them. At least with the likes of antirm the only way is up.

You got a link to that info  ;D

The link wouldn't want me to disclose that

This is true, the Statsports are men from Gilesquay and by all accounts with their backing the Louth job is one of the most attractive in terms of finances
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 24, 2020, 11:08:04 AM
Late to the Party Guys, Great appointment last week. Hope we can build on from here on in.
we really need to improve the standard of the schools football and put a real emphasis on this in the coming years. probably sound like a broken record., but the population of St.Mary's CBS and St.Louis should be more than capable of competing at a MacRory Cup level. These are what we have to build for in the coming years and getting youngsters exposure to this high level football and getting more guys exposure to Sigerson level football when they reach that age. 
A goal should be an u17 Ulster within 4 years and maybe an u20 in five years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 24, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
Who is in charge of the U17s and U20s in 2021? I see Mickey Harte has taken on Louth U20s along with the seniors
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on November 24, 2020, 11:55:10 AM
I'd say it's the same as last year. Hugh McG with 20's and Donal Laverty & Paddy Kelly with U-17s.
Both seemed like good setups.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2020, 08:35:04 PM
No coincidence that Cavan and Tipperary made provincial breakthroughs at the weekend. Both had exceptionally good minor and under 21s teams if you go back half a dozen years. Hard work put in got its reward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2020, 08:36:07 PM
No pressure Donal and Paddy lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jeremiah on November 24, 2020, 09:11:55 PM
I know Hugh's taking Rossa next year. Under 20 usually early in the year so good chance he'll be able to do both
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 25, 2020, 10:08:49 AM
U20's were very impressive last year so hopefully Hugh and his staff are staying on or alternatively EMcG goes the route of Mickey Harte and gets directly involved with that group also.
Does anyone know if that U20 squad are losing many players from last year's squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2020, 01:03:13 PM
Pretty sure it reverts to under 19 this year, so there will be a 2 year drop off, probably a large % of the squad. In good hands with Hugh and his capable backroom team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 25, 2020, 03:02:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 25, 2020, 01:03:13 PM
Pretty sure it reverts to under 19 this year, so there will be a 2 year drop off, probably a large % of the squad. In good hands with Hugh and his capable backroom team.


County will remain U20 for 2021
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 29, 2020, 02:59:18 PM
are county teams alloWed to train now? Elite sport and all that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 30, 2020, 11:17:53 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 30, 2020, 04:17:09 PM
McGinley off the mark v quickly having senior trials at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 30, 2020, 04:35:38 PM
Could see this happening if the GAA thought they could have packed stadiums later in the year
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40097942.html
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 30, 2020, 04:38:22 PM
Indeed EOC. Another season without large attendances could be a disaster for the association.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannslide on December 01, 2020, 02:59:48 PM
Any news on front runners for St Enda's job?  Surely this would be an attractive challenge?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2020, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: bannslide on December 01, 2020, 02:59:48 PM
Any news on front runners for St Enda's job?  Surely this would be an attractive challenge?

Lenny I heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 01, 2020, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 30, 2020, 04:17:09 PM
McGinley off the mark v quickly having senior trials at the weekend.

Howd they go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2020, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 01, 2020, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 30, 2020, 04:17:09 PM
McGinley off the mark v quickly having senior trials at the weekend.

Howd they go?
This weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 02, 2020, 11:31:14 AM
Living in the future - none of this has happened yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 02, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
I thought they trained or met up last Saturday but Bannside can correct me if wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 02, 2020, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 01, 2020, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: bannslide on December 01, 2020, 02:59:48 PM
Any news on front runners for St Enda's job?  Surely this would be an attractive challenge?

Lenny I heard
Left Field here  - but maybe try one of their own?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2020, 06:48:48 PM
Dont think county training for next year is allowed to commence until January as per Croke Park guidelines.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2020, 08:48:32 PM
So what have we got in place at this stage.

Div 1.
Barry Dillon Portglenone
Sean Burns St Galls
Gerard Mc Nulty Creggan
Hugh Mc Gettigan Rossa
Damien Cassidy Cargin

Anyone able to stretch this out a bit further?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on December 02, 2020, 08:51:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2020, 08:48:32 PM
So what have we got in place at this stage.

Div 1.
Barry Dillon Portglenone
Sean Burns St Galls
Gerard Mc Nulty Creggan
Damien Cassidy Cargin

Anyone able to stretch this out a bit further?

Thought Paddy Murray was in at St.Galls ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on December 02, 2020, 09:18:35 PM
Hearing there are lots of new and old cargin and Creggan faces on the county panel.
50 odd on the panel and going 3 nites a week  from now to Christmas. 
Be interesting to see who makes the cut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 02, 2020, 10:00:04 PM
Quote from: Peter john on December 02, 2020, 06:53:47 PM
Hearing K Murray LD with some fella Hogan from pg1,and Lenny in for st endas job,with Seanie Burns at galls
biG chequebook in Ggormley then and bilingual no doubt !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 03, 2020, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 02, 2020, 08:48:32 PM
So what have we got in place at this stage.

Div 1.
Barry Dillon Portglenone
Sean Burns St Galls
Gerard Mc Nulty Creggan
Hugh Mc Gettigan Rossa
Damien Cassidy Cargin

Anyone able to stretch this out a bit further?
I heard Joe Brolly was taking St Brigids seniors, not sure if true. I also thought Paddy Murray was at St Galls for a more long term project and would be surprised if he wasn't there again this year. Again could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2020, 02:31:35 PM
Just managed to see Brendan Crossans excellent tribute in todays Irish News about our outgoing PRO Sean Kelly. Well worth a read....says it all really. What an operator Sean was for Antrim Gaa!! I dont think we will ever see his like again...unless he returns for another term sometime in the future.

To top it off I believe Sean Kelly and Glenravels Seamus Mc Mullan have been returned as Antrim delegates to Ulster. That being the case congratulations to both. They will both be superb ambassadors for the Saffron County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 07, 2020, 02:41:29 PM
Good to hear Antrim have gathered another strong panel. I'm hearing 9 Creggan, 7 Cargin, and the older hans have committed again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2020, 05:47:01 PM
9 from Creggan ... must be big panel ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 09, 2020, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2020, 05:47:01 PM
9 from Creggan ... must be big panel ?

I heard in around the 50 mark at the minute. Obviously McGinley & co are only starting out so I'm guessing they have assembled a big panel and will cut it down as they see fit.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: toby47 on December 09, 2020, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2020, 05:47:01 PM
9 from Creggan ... must be big panel ?

I heard in around the 50 mark at the minute. Obviously McGinley & co are only starting out so I'm guessing they have assembled a big panel and will cut it down as they see fit.

Are they not carrying out trials? Would this not be the reason for the high number?

No need to cut things down either at this stage I'd imagine... Plenty of the big counties have 'extras' to help with in house games and injuries.. Closing the panel only leads to disaster.. Keep the doors always open, players forms can change during the season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 09, 2020, 01:50:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: toby47 on December 09, 2020, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2020, 05:47:01 PM
9 from Creggan ... must be big panel ?

I heard in around the 50 mark at the minute. Obviously McGinley & co are only starting out so I'm guessing they have assembled a big panel and will cut it down as they see fit.

Are they not carrying out trials? Would this not be the reason for the high number?

No need to cut things down either at this stage I'd imagine... Plenty of the big counties have 'extras' to help with in house games and injuries.. Closing the panel only leads to disaster.. Keep the doors always open, players forms can change during the season

I'm not sure if they are 'trials' or not. I know they done fitness testing on Saturday past which would indicate its an extended panel rather than a trial.

No harm in carrying 50 men for a while (some will drop off, other can be told at a certain stage they aren't needed at the minute but can be brought back in if impressing on the club scene)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 13, 2020, 04:13:53 PM
Great for the counTy to win in Croke today - well Done. Wish there was B type championship for the footballers finished in Croke - some motivation to train
On a negative note whoever cut off the RTe coverage when the Antrim captain was startign his speech deserves a kicking and clearly doesnt understand GAA tradition >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
Is the new county management Team taking u20s to? see Micky Harte is in Louth and he knows a thing or 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2020, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
Is the new county management Team taking u20s to? see Micky Harte is in Louth and he knows a thing or 2

You want the lads being paid twice?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2020, 08:15:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2020, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
Is the new county management Team taking u20s to? see Micky Harte is in Louth and he knows a thing or 2

You want the lads being paid twice?
Just think it is smart and gives the u20s a Big lift
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 21, 2020, 08:00:11 AM
Caught most of the minor game yesterday, sounds like preparations cant have been easy but a poor enough showing all the same.
In reply to Belfast GAA man, Hugh McGettigan is the U20 manager the u20s have already commenced I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2020, 01:38:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 21, 2020, 08:00:11 AM
Caught most of the minor game yesterday, sounds like preparations cant have been easy but a poor enough showing all the same.
In reply to Belfast GAA man, Hugh McGettigan is the U20 manager the u20s have already commenced I believe.
Thanks - It's too early for Gaelfast to affect minor football yesterday but fingers crossed it gives us something to Cheer for soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2020, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2020, 01:38:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 21, 2020, 08:00:11 AM
Caught most of the minor game yesterday, sounds like preparations cant have been easy but a poor enough showing all the same.
In reply to Belfast GAA man, Hugh McGettigan is the U20 manager the u20s have already commenced I believe.
Thanks - It's too early for Gaelfast to affect minor football yesterday but fingers crossed it gives us something to Cheer for soon

Gaelfast is in primary schools, P1 up, that's 12/13 years away.. lets hope we can compete at minor, but we won't unless our schools start performing at Mcrory cup level..

I hope we get to that level, but I doubt we have enough time or money from this to actually achieve what the likes of Dublin did during their push for city GAA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 21, 2020, 01:53:34 PM
Were all the best players there or asked to play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 23, 2020, 01:46:24 PM
where there u20 trials recently? do We have any who would be in senior set up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2020, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 21, 2020, 01:53:34 PM
Were all the best players there or asked to play?

How do you judge that?  Is it your view on the best players or the managers/selectors?

I'd say this year at county juvenile level everything was haphazard due to the on off approach by the ulster gaa and beyond, no time was spent with these lads to actually prepare them right, I'd say a lot of players were overlooked or not available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2020, 07:38:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2020, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2020, 01:38:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 21, 2020, 08:00:11 AM
Caught most of the minor game yesterday, sounds like preparations cant have been easy but a poor enough showing all the same.
In reply to Belfast GAA man, Hugh McGettigan is the U20 manager the u20s have already commenced I believe.
Thanks - It's too early for Gaelfast to affect minor football yesterday but fingers crossed it gives us something to Cheer for soon

Gaelfast is in primary schools, P1 up, that's 12/13 years away.. lets hope we can compete at minor, but we won't unless our schools start performing at Mcrory cup level..

I hope we get to that level, but I doubt we have enough time or money from this to actually achieve what the likes of Dublin did during their push for city GAA

Do any Antrim schools play in the MacRory nowadays?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 07:55:50 PM
I don't think so. St Mary's did for a while but dropped down. Were St. Louis in the mclarnon final the other year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2020, 08:05:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 07:55:50 PM
I don't think so. St Mary's did for a while but dropped down. Were St. Louis in the mclarnon final the other year?

Unreal that Antrim don't have one team in the MacRory Cup, when you think Newry has 2, Enniskillen has one etc.  I don't think Derry City has a full school in it either, which is disappointing.

Are St. Mary's Belfast in the Mc Larnon nowadays?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 08:50:00 PM
I wouldn't say so hs. We got to an Ulster final during st galls dominant period which they had a lot to do with. Big leap from McRory to senior county but playing at that level a big help to young boys and a good platform for university for them where they can get exposed to higher standards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2020, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2020, 08:43:57 PM
I suppose it would be nice to have an Antrim school competing at the top level of colleges football but for me, just like having a very competitive club team in the county, it would probably have zero impact on the fortunes of our county teams.

Seriously?

Have you watch any top level college football lately?

The conditioning of those lads at 18 is on a par to the Methody lads or Inst!

Ref'd and did the line few times and was really impressed with the step up

If one or two lads could feed through from that to minor Under 20 and senior we'd be doing a lot better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2020, 09:30:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2020, 09:17:15 PM
Seriously, yeah. I don't think it would make a blind bit of difference to our senior county setup. An Antrim school competed for years in the MacRory Cup and we were still shite. Indeed, the last time an Antrim school won the MacRory Cup, it was another 15 campaigns before we won an Ulster championship match.
We have been the whipping boys for the best part of 50 years, with & without our schools competing at the top level of colleges football. So, while it would be nice to have, our problem is most certainly elsewhere IMO.

True enough but still no MacRory team in Antrim is a signal that things need a good shake up, especially with the population etc. Every other county in Ulster has at least 1 team in it, with asmaller population.

Is the talent just not their or is it the schools/teachers that have no interest?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 09:56:47 PM
While an Antrim team was in it were they really competing? We're they not taking hammering?

You have a point but it wouldn't do any harm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2020, 09:59:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 09:56:47 PM
While an Antrim team was in it were they really competing? We're they not taking hammering?

You have a point but it wouldn't do any harm.

Yeah, it definately wouldn't do any harm - at least 1 school. In comparsion, they usually have 3 teams in the Mageean, for a smaller area.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 10:05:48 PM
Yeah. More of the county plays hurling plus relatively speaking we are the strongest county in it though. Sadly the opposite in the football!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 10:14:12 PM
There are a few phds in it. How have we got so far behind. How do we start competing etc etc.

Anyway season of good will. Next year is going to be our year  ;D I do think this second tier championship could be a help to us and I would be , cautiously, optimistic about mcginley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2020, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2020, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 23, 2020, 09:56:47 PM
While an Antrim team was in it were they really competing? We're they not taking hammering?

You have a point but it wouldn't do any harm.
Probably a mixed bag over the years but as I said even an Antrim school winning the damn thing wasn't enough to stop us losing our next 14 championship matches in a row.

I agree that it wouldn't do any harm. How we get to that point is anyone's guess. There is a cart before the horse message somewhere in this I reckon.

It definately should be looked at - in terms of what happened and why, but more importantly, how can it be rectified?

Probably not on Gaelfest's agenda but with all that work going on at underage etc., it is the next on the agenda.

No point having all this work completed and then not pushing on by feeding it through a/the secondary schools.

In reality, there should be a Belfast school in the 'A' football competition in Ulster.

Are any of the schools playing A competition football in the earlier years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 23, 2020, 11:06:50 PM
i Know Ive askd this before but is there a Gaelfast plan we can see? 2020 has been a crXp year overall but a good year for planning. The main reason I ask is surely you cant just increase primary school numbers and stay as is at secondary school mccrory cup level in terms of coaches and organisatIon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2020, 11:26:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2020, 09:17:15 PM
Seriously, yeah. I don't think it would make a blind bit of difference to our senior county setup. An Antrim school competed for years in the MacRory Cup and we were still shite. Indeed, the last time an Antrim school won the MacRory Cup, it was another 15 campaigns before we won an Ulster championship match.
We have been the whipping boys for the best part of 50 years, with & without our schools competing at the top level of colleges football. So, while it would be nice to have, our problem is most certainly elsewhere IMO.

So is that a yes, you have seen the difference between second tier and top tier college football?

It's not Conal Heatly's year, 86? Can't remember year, but the standard from that team to now is night and day, our best footballers at university level struggle to make first teams.

We need a college team that's able to compete. Your view is slightly different. My view is the best colleges in hurling and football in Ireland generate better teams at senior (usually, there may be some exceptions)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 24, 2020, 09:21:39 AM
It's a mixture of everything! Increasing participation, being more competitive at underage county level, getting the schools playing at a higher level, getting a proper S&C faculty and structure in place for the elite players from 16+ And list goes on and on. These are deeper rooted problems that'll take years to fix.

I think the schools problem starts much earlier than the McCrory level age group.  I have taught in primary schools in Antrim, Armagh and Down. By far the more disorganised was Antrim. There was a lack of games and a lack of structure. The primary school competitions in the Armagh league are superb and they have really got their act together with this over the last few years. There are towns in Antrim with big catholic populations and they don't have primary school gaelic teams. Hopefully gaelfast is going to solve this but I wouldn't hold my breath. As I said these are deep rooted issues with no culture of Gaelic games in these places. People say Antrim has a massive advantage with population as well. But half the population is Protestant, north Antrim doesn't play football and a large proportion of the leftovers don't even know what GAA is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2020, 09:53:53 AM
Derry Down while not the power houses of yesterday are still a grade or two above us regardless of where they are in the league, Down played in an All Ireland final Not that long in the memory and Derry have won or played in plenty underage finals, we can't win a flipping match in Ulster!

If you don't see it as a positive steppingstone that's fine, a lot of effort from Gaelfast has went into coaching student teachers, giving them the tools to bring through kids from school age (primary, through to secondary)

There may not be any direct links to show improved players at county level, The McCanns though for me would be your stand out players at county, I think both played A level football. Few of the Agnahgallon lads have showed promise also.

I can't remember Belfast producing teams since that St Marys team, would love to see that team sheet interestingly enough, probably only had 1 or 2 players that went on lol

I personally feel that if Antrim want to produce players every year, they need better representation at college level, this drives numbers, interest, S&C , and work ethic which sometimes we lack.

If you look at the hurling in schools, and yes we get dicked every semifinal against those Kilkenny/Clare or Galway schools, but we end up producing good hurlers that go on and play county hurling, St Marys put a tremendous effort in over the years, maybe not produced the best teams lately, but I always remembered lads saying what the school had them doing for training, serious effort and commitment.

I'm not arguing you're wrong HS, and I'm not saying that it will turn us overnight, nothing will, but currently we have to do something, because whatever we are doing now has us in div4 forever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2020, 11:43:02 AM
I'm not Bannside nor do I have his optimism For all things football, but we need some push, and hopefully Gaelfast will bear fruit.

I think the money allocated and timeframe needs bettered tbh, as this looks a far bigger job than what was thought. Clubs need to reconnect with their closest estates, schools and youth clubs.

It's strange but in my day we had smaller numbers, but better participation. Now we have larger numbers at juvenile but many teams are not fielding !! Work that one out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 24, 2020, 12:00:59 PM
Loughrey and niblock did get third level though. They were sigerson players.

. Derry are a funny one. I just think their senior setup has been very poor for years. The standard of down player is not what it was.

Also competition from hurling is something high most of the others don't have(Maghera notable exception).

Like you say so many more layers to it than just schools but it wouldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 24, 2020, 12:34:00 PM
Yeah I know that but I do think it helps. The likes of Kelly or niblock, and a few others, just had great ability with or without McRory. A factory line of McRory players would produce more third level players you would think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 24, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 24, 2020, 12:34:00 PM
Yeah I know that but I do think it helps. The likes of Kelly or niblock, and a few others, just had great ability with or without McRory. A factory line of McRory players would produce more third level players you would think.

Mate of mine told me there were 90 fellas in his sons year trying to make the 1st year football squad at St Colmans Newry

Some difference from our schools id say

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 24, 2020, 09:29:35 PM
Playing McCrory also gives players a bigger profile and more opportunity to play high level in the Universities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 24, 2020, 10:08:33 PM
Yeah when you land up to queens or wherever there are a lot of people trying to make an impression and it's tough. I was from a year where county minors got to the Ulster final and one player from Antrim made a freshers team (in Belfast) that year - Kevin Brady. He was overage for that minor team too. (Incidentally he had played McRory).

It has been shown it can be done but I expect it's tougher.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Im hearing the Gaelfast chief Has been relieved of his duties - anybody hear why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 27, 2020, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Im hearing the Gaelfast chief Has been relieved of his duties - anybody hear why?

By Croke Park ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 08:41:59 PM
didnt hear the detail
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 27, 2020, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 24, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 24, 2020, 12:34:00 PM
Yeah I know that but I do think it helps. The likes of Kelly or niblock, and a few others, just had great ability with or without McRory. A factory line of McRory players would produce more third level players you would think.

Mate of mine told me there were 90 fellas in his sons year trying to make the 1st year football squad at St Colmans Newry

Some difference from our schools id say
And they're panicking over on the Down thread that Down schools have stopped winning things!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 08:41:59 PM
didnt hear the detail

So what did you hear?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 08:41:59 PM
didnt hear the detail

So what did you hear?
tjat the Gaelfast chief fell out with county officials and is gone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 08:41:59 PM
didnt hear the detail

So what did you hear?
tjat the Gaelfast chief fell out with county officials and is gone

Life's not as black and white... you said he fell out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannslide on December 28, 2020, 12:07:59 PM
So how do the new restrictions affect clubs who are already gaining?

Can players still train in gyms as long as they're on their own and can they still do individual sessions on club pitches?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 28, 2020, 02:22:53 PM
Who is/was the Gaelfast chief?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 28, 2020, 02:50:11 PM
Paul Donnelly of St. Paul's I think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 28, 2020, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 08:41:59 PM
didnt hear the detail

So what did you hear?
tjat the Gaelfast chief fell out with county officials and is gone

Life's not as black and white... you said he fell out?
MR2, I always got the impression you're usually in the know about high level county matters.
What can you tell us about the Gaelfast rumours in recent posts.
I've not been a big fan of the scheme to date as I would like to see the milestone markers and plans to measure progress and gauge success  but its been too clandestine.
Nevertheless a change of the top guy takes us to  year 3 of the plan and is a backward step. This is a sad state of affairs and the GAA public deserve to know more. It looks embarrassing for Antrim Gaels if there has been a power struggle at the top

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 12:59:14 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 28, 2020, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 27, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 08:41:59 PM
didnt hear the detail

So what did you hear?
tjat the Gaelfast chief fell out with county officials and is gone

Life's not as black and white... you said he fell out?
MR2, I always got the impression you're usually in the know about high level county matters.
What can you tell us about the Gaelfast rumours in recent posts.
I've not been a big fan of the scheme to date as I would like to see the milestone markers and plans to measure progress and gauge success  but its been too clandestine.
Nevertheless a change of the top guy takes us to  year 3 of the plan and is a backward step. This is a sad state of affairs and the GAA public deserve to know more. It looks embarrassing for Antrim Gaels if there has been a power struggle at the top

I know the dealings on this and wouldn't air it on a public forum.

Changes happen, the furlough has certainly taken the wind from the sails, it's like staring over and no doubt there has been issues that during that period Gaelfast couldn't do it's work, obviously due to Covid.

Whoever steps in I wish them well, always someone ready to knock them down when a role like this comes about. Not enough money in my opinion to do what's needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 29, 2020, 09:23:29 AM
Definitely nothing to be gained by airing this in public if you are a genuine Antrim Gael. Its obvious Covid had an imput...affecting this programme just like its affecting practically every other sector or way of life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 29, 2020, 09:53:21 AM
How many years is Gaelfast to run for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 29, 2020, 10:01:07 AM
Throwing money at the problems Antrim has certainly won't fix things but it would definitely help. But the money that was given for the GF project is nowhere near enough. It's only just scratching the surface. Would external men directly from Croke Park be a better option?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 29, 2020, 10:01:07 AM
Throwing money at the problems Antrim has certainly won't fix things but it would definitely help. But the money that was given for the GF project is nowhere near enough. It's only just scratching the surface. Would external men directly from Croke Park be a better option?

They are... the money is given, it has to be monitored by Croke Park, there would be a format that's being used, I'd assume a tried and tested one.

But the complexities of Belfast would require someone with on the ground knowledge? Would you be happy for a Croke Park manager to run things from Dublin? Or a qualified Belfast Gael who's experiencing in working sport development in the north?

The money is a pittance but better than what we've had before, if it's used wisely we'll continue to get more I'd assume..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros

They have been running it. Do you think Croke Park would give that money without checks and balances? The Dublin blueprint no doubt was used, but this is Belfast, you are saying you want a Dub up to run it?

How much will that eat into the funds?

Any ideas as to who you would like in place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 29, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros

They have been running it. Do you think Croke Park would give that money without checks and balances? The Dublin blueprint no doubt was used, but this is Belfast, you are saying you want a Dub up to run it?

How much will that eat into the funds?

Any ideas as to who you would like in place?

Well a dub might work out better than it has worked now. It seems Antrim always leads to an enviable fall out of some sort when a local man takes a role on within the county. Someone from outside the county may have been a better option.  I actually haven't witnessed much change so far with GF. I have seen a lot of good coaches but equally a lot of inexperienced coaches going into schools and taking PE lessons in order to get something on their CV. It is of course a good start but this is only scratching the surface as I said. I am not sure if this is following the blue print that Dublin had because it doesn't have the same funding that Dublin had to get theirs off the ground. Dublin also had the benefit of having won many All Irelands, having the national stadium in their city, massive financial backing from sponsors and running their CB like a large buiness. Dublin needed a good kickstart to get all going again. Antrim is basically starting from nothing. £1m over 5 years isn't anywhere near enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 05:01:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros

They have been running it. Do you think Croke Park would give that money without checks and balances? The Dublin blueprint no doubt was used, but this is Belfast, you are saying you want a Dub up to run it?

How much will that eat into the funds?

Any ideas as to who you would like in place?
Yes but I dont Think it is appropriate to discuss on a public forum with the siTuation vacant
Dublin was not in a good position 15 years ago and as Irelands 2nd city we surely must learn from them - and yes 200k a year is a pitance compared to Dublin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Im hearing the Gaelfast chief Has been relieved of his duties - anybody hear why?

This was your post? You think it's now not appropriate?

Quote from: JimStynes on December 29, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros

They have been running it. Do you think Croke Park would give that money without checks and balances? The Dublin blueprint no doubt was used, but this is Belfast, you are saying you want a Dub up to run it?

How much will that eat into the funds?

Any ideas as to who you would like in place?

Well a dub might work out better than it has worked now. It seems Antrim always leads to an enviable fall out of some sort when a local man takes a role on within the county. Someone from outside the county may have been a better option.  I actually haven't witnessed much change so far with GF. I have seen a lot of good coaches but equally a lot of inexperienced coaches going into schools and taking PE lessons in order to get something on their CV. It is of course a good start but this is only scratching the surface as I said. I am not sure if this is following the blue print that Dublin had because it doesn't have the same funding that Dublin had to get theirs off the ground. Dublin also had the benefit of having won many All Irelands, having the national stadium in their city, massive financial backing from sponsors and running their CB like a large buiness. Dublin needed a good kickstart to get all going again. Antrim is basically starting from nothing. £1m over 5 years isn't anywhere near enough.
Jim it's been running how many months?

When do you expect changes?

Why would an outsider be better placed to fix a Belfast thing?

What qualifications would you be any to see from a new chief?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 29, 2020, 05:21:23 PM
I believe every CLUB has a serious responsibility to provide the optimum opportunity for a potentially elite athlete to reach his or her full potential. Thats not to say our schools dont need to do more, or our county development squads dont need to do more, etc etc....but the ultimate responsibility in todays modern era lies with the club.

A club can produce great players if it has good structures along with capable and committed people. If every club set a target of having at least two or three potentially top inter county footballers in ten years, then we would we well on our way through the divisions of the NFL.

This we can do, its in our grasp. The rest if it happens is a welcome bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 29, 2020, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 29, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros

They have been running it. Do you think Croke Park would give that money without checks and balances? The Dublin blueprint no doubt was used, but this is Belfast, you are saying you want a Dub up to run it?

How much will that eat into the funds?

Any ideas as to who you would like in place?

Well a dub might work out better than it has worked now. It seems Antrim always leads to an enviable fall out of some sort when a local man takes a role on within the county. Someone from outside the county may have been a better option.  I actually haven't witnessed much change so far with GF. I have seen a lot of good coaches but equally a lot of inexperienced coaches going into schools and taking PE lessons in order to get something on their CV. It is of course a good start but this is only scratching the surface as I said. I am not sure if this is following the blue print that Dublin had because it doesn't have the same funding that Dublin had to get theirs off the ground. Dublin also had the benefit of having won many All Irelands, having the national stadium in their city, massive financial backing from sponsors and running their CB like a large buiness. Dublin needed a good kickstart to get all going again. Antrim is basically starting from nothing. £1m over 5 years isn't anywhere near enough.

They were never gonna throw millions at it to start with when you look at Antrim's track record. I'm sure if Croke Park deem it a success more funding will follow. From 2007 - 2018 Antrim received the 7th highest amount in coaching/development grants so it's not as if Antrim have never had a penny before.

Oh and sad to see Paul Donnelly go, some egos involved at top of Antrim gaa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 29, 2020, 06:39:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 29, 2020, 05:21:23 PM
I believe every CLUB has a serious responsibility to provide the optimum opportunity for a potentially elite athlete to reach his or her full potential. Thats not to say our schools dont need to do more, or our county development squads dont need to do more, etc etc....but the ultimate responsibility in todays modern era lies with the club.

A club can produce great players if it has good structures along with capable and committed people. If every club set a target of having at least two or three potentially top inter county footballers in ten years, then we would we well on our way through the divisions of the NFL.

This we can do, its in our grasp. The rest if it happens is a welcome bonus.

Good post Bannside but you forgot a crucial ingredient: parents.

I think parents have a huge role to play in their childrens' development.  I know they do by taking them to blitzes etc. but you can see the huge interest in kids whose parents take them to games etc.

Even a simple thing like taking them outside the house for a kickabout/puckabout is great and creates an interest.

Another point, which is out of their control to a certain extent is their class group at school, especially primary school.  E.G. if your son is in a class with a few lads who are mad for sport, then there's a good chance they'll be close friends up through school because of the sport interest etc.  Just an opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 07:08:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Im hearing the Gaelfast chief Has been relieved of his duties - anybody hear why?

This was your post? You think it's now not appropriate?

Was just quoting your earlier post!

Quote from: JimStynes on December 29, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 29, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
my Worry is that he saw no future in it as I think there is only 2 years fundign left.
I think it is obvious to get someone in to run it with experience on how Dublin have grown in last 10 years and more likely to be able to access the Euros

They have been running it. Do you think Croke Park would give that money without checks and balances? The Dublin blueprint no doubt was used, but this is Belfast, you are saying you want a Dub up to run it?

How much will that eat into the funds?

Any ideas as to who you would like in place?

Well a dub might work out better than it has worked now. It seems Antrim always leads to an enviable fall out of some sort when a local man takes a role on within the county. Someone from outside the county may have been a better option.  I actually haven't witnessed much change so far with GF. I have seen a lot of good coaches but equally a lot of inexperienced coaches going into schools and taking PE lessons in order to get something on their CV. It is of course a good start but this is only scratching the surface as I said. I am not sure if this is following the blue print that Dublin had because it doesn't have the same funding that Dublin had to get theirs off the ground. Dublin also had the benefit of having won many All Irelands, having the national stadium in their city, massive financial backing from sponsors and running their CB like a large buiness. Dublin needed a good kickstart to get all going again. Antrim is basically starting from nothing. £1m over 5 years isn't anywhere near enough.
Jim it's been running how many months?

When do you expect changes?

Why would an outsider be better placed to fix a Belfast thing?

What qualifications would you be any to see from a new chief?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 29, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
Those are definitely important considerations Marty. My point is that we continually yap on (and rightly) that more needd to be done at school and dev squad level. Those things are harder to deliver. But a club that can pull together half a dozen knowledgable individuals with the common interest of properly developing juveniles in their own club, can deliver quality players through their own conveyor belt.

Look what Sean Mc Gourty and Liam Stewart and a few stalwarts in St Galls delivered. Yes there are factors that can expedite this, but it can be done.

Cargin seem to have their conveyor belt going well. Three or four good players every year. Thats all any club needs. Its up to others to match this. And if/when they do, Antrim football will be in a much better place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 29, 2020, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 29, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
Those are definitely important considerations Marty. My point is that we continually yap on (and rightly) that more needd to be done at school and dev squad level. Those things are harder to deliver. But a club that can pull together half a dozen knowledgable individuals with the common interest of properly developing juveniles in their own club, can deliver quality players through their own conveyor belt.

Look what Sean Mc Gourty and Liam Stewart and a few stalwarts in St Galls delivered. Yes there are factors that can expedite this, but it can be done.

Cargin seem to have their conveyor belt going well. Three or four good players every year. Thats all any club needs. Its up to others to match this. And if/when they do, Antrim football will be in a much better place.

Agree Bannside.

The club, for the most part, is where it happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 29, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Anybody listen to Sean Kelly on Saffcast? I think he did more for Antrim Gaa than anyone ever did. His true legacy mightnt be appreciated until the next generation of Saffron Stars whom he has helped to harvest nuture and inspire all at once. "Some man for One Man comes to mind!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 29, 2020, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 29, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Anybody listen to Sean Kelly on Saffcast? I think he did more for Antrim Gaa than anyone ever did. His true legacy mightnt be appreciated until the next generation of Saffron Stars whom he has helped to harvest nuture and inspire all at once. "Some man for One Man comes to mind!

Steady on now, he was a PRO, a very good one but let's not lose the run of ourselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2020, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 29, 2020, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 29, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Anybody listen to Sean Kelly on Saffcast? I think he did more for Antrim Gaa than anyone ever did. His true legacy mightnt be appreciated until the next generation of Saffron Stars whom he has helped to harvest nuture and inspire all at once. "Some man for One Man comes to mind!

Steady on now, he was a PRO, a very good one but let's not lose the run of ourselves

The first one that actually gave us a media platform which allowed us to be updated on everything Antrim.

From Twitter/Facebook/instagram and other outlets from showing games he never missed a beat.

There wasn't a game he wasn't at! I don't know how he did it to be fair, them and saffron Gael produced a smooth access to all our games.

Generating a popular platform Antrim can improve its worth, and Sean was a integral part of that.

I've every confidence that our new PRO will take us further.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 30, 2020, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 29, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Anybody listen to Sean Kelly on Saffcast? I think he did more for Antrim Gaa than anyone ever did. His true legacy mightnt be appreciated until the next generation of Saffron Stars whom he has helped to harvest nuture and inspire all at once. "Some man for One Man comes to mind!
Bannside it was a great listen, as have all the saffcast interviews. Reading the Irish News yesterday I may be in the minority but I just hope our players keep the heads down and prepare well for the league. No need for the volume of interviews in the Irish News, lets do our talking on the field. Could be a good year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 30, 2020, 10:41:10 AM
Enjoyed reading Saffron Gaels interview with Enda Mc Ginley. Seems to like what he sees amongst some of the younger players.

His whole backroom team look very capable and highly regarded. SK needs no intro, SON was very highly respected when M Harte brought him in as forwards coach, and Stevie Quinn feedback was positive from the start. Great to see Oliver Lennon involved, very professional and liked by players, and who better than Roy Mc Larnon to make sure things are in place. All in all, a good set up, players buying in and enjoying the freshness.

We can be certain Leitrim Louth and Sligo will be saying the exact same.....going to be really interesting to see how things pan out.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 11:16:36 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 30, 2020, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 29, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Anybody listen to Sean Kelly on Saffcast? I think he did more for Antrim Gaa than anyone ever did. His true legacy mightnt be appreciated until the next generation of Saffron Stars whom he has helped to harvest nuture and inspire all at once. "Some man for One Man comes to mind!
Bannside it was a great listen, as have all the saffcast interviews. Reading the Irish News yesterday I may be in the minority but I just hope our players keep the heads down and prepare well for the league. No need for the volume of interviews in the Irish News, lets do our talking on the field. Could be a good year.

It's been a slow news week sporting wise, next thing we'll have Brendan Crossan in Cushendall again or talking to one of the McGourtys.

I agree, keep the head down and work hard. Stay outta the press
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 30, 2020, 11:23:52 AM
Hard to beat a good pint of plain in The Lurig all the same!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 30, 2020, 11:23:52 AM
Hard to beat a good pint of plain in The Lurig all the same!

Nowhere better on a cold day 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 30, 2020, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?
have girls teams only and no senior teams in any codE
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)

Haha, only wondering cause I knew they had no senior team so anyone who played the whole way through would eventually have to go somewhere else!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

Falls under Lisburn councils, I'm being funny ;)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, too many clubs in Belfast.

Gaelfast is developed to being children from p1 up, why are there still people looking at Gaelfast as a reason for teams not developing senior players? It's been running how many months before Covid?

There are some very ill informed 'Gaels' or people with agendas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 31, 2020, 12:52:00 PM
How long has Colin gaels been going?

Too many in the west. Are there too many in the north? South feels close enough to being about right. East well at least there now is one lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 31, 2020, 12:52:00 PM
How long has Colin gaels been going?

Too many in the west. Are there too many in the north? South feels close enough to being about right. East well at least there now is one lol.

Clubs don't want to lose their identity I get that. Dublin has 91 clubs, city and county, not sure of the city numbers, but they have the whole city on board, we've mainly West of the city, not that big as people think..

We need to have better structures to make it work better for what we have... all clubs need funding for a full time coach with all clubs, who's assigned to a local school that feeds players through to the club..

Coaches engage with parents at games after school clubs..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 02:22:09 PM
There needs to be full time games development officers/coaches in that area. Not someone coming into take a PE lesson once a week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?

What ages? Is that 30,000 under the age of 18?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:10:16 PM
It'll take a lot more than Gaelfast to sort that area out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 31, 2020, 08:31:59 PM
Happy new year to you all, I always enjoy the chat on this board. Hope to God we have plenty to cheer next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.

It's still a hell of a lot of people!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 09:00:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.

It's still a hell of a lot of people!

Lisburn GAA st Pats should have a person in there, a quality club with a decent senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.

It's still a hell of a lot of people!

Yeah, definately a club in there for sure.

If in Dunmurray area, who do you play for or is that the same area?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 10:16:15 PM
It's Lisburn borough...

Dummury area would have been Eire Og
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 31, 2020, 10:26:07 PM
Where is st agnes's catchment area vs Eire og?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 31, 2020, 10:26:07 PM
Where is st agnes's catchment area vs Eire og?

Agnes lower to upper Andytown, Eire O'g traditionally Upper Andersonstown ladybrook..

But clubs in Belfast are usually family oriented
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 10:16:15 PM
It's Lisburn borough...

Dummury area would have been Eire Og

Are they still going MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 10:48:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 10:16:15 PM
It's Lisburn borough...

Dummury area would have been Eire Og

Are they still going MR?

Yes, play out of woodlands
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 11:49:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.

It's still a hell of a lot of people!

Yeah, definately a club in there for sure.

If in Dunmurray area, who do you play for or is that the same area?

Lurgan has population of 30k. Within a 6 mile radius it has 9 clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 31, 2020, 11:57:01 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 10:16:15 PM
It's Lisburn borough...

Dummury area would have been Eire Og

Are they still going MR?

Yes...Perpetually Div 3

Antrim's problem is lack of physicality, lack of pace and intensity in our play and power (and culture and pride).

Tyrone Div 3 teams would compete with our Div 1 teams.

Physicality and conditioning is a pre requisite to competing.

How do we fix it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2021, 12:31:36 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 11:49:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.

It's still a hell of a lot of people!

Yeah, definately a club in there for sure.

If in Dunmurray area, who do you play for or is that the same area?

Lurgan has population of 30k. Within a 6 mile radius it has 9 clubs.

Within in a six mile radius of poleglass 8 or 9 west Belfast clubs, then st Pats in Lisburn...

The problem with this area is soccer, the biggest participated sport on this island unfortunately, and better run ffs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 01, 2021, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2021, 12:31:36 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 11:49:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 31, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on December 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM
Does anyone here know how long Colin Gaels have been running for? And if they've been going long enough to produce a couple of senior players where would they move to?

You'd never get City players moving amongst clubs. If they are born and started to play for a club, they will never ever move to another City team.  ;)
Its a real Shame that Colin Gaels hasnt worked - must be a massive population there in Twinbrook/Poleglass/Lagmore for a program like a well run Gaelfast to boost number and prodcie senior players in all codes

True, they's need a mini Gaelfast.

Must be a big population in that area?
around 30,000 . Too many clubs in parts Of west belfast - StPauls Rossa Sarsfields on top of each other but not in the Colin area

30, 000 in West Belfast or Twinbrook/Poleglass?
30,000 in the Colin Area which is TBrook / Pglass/Lagmore and Mount Eagles So at least half would be kids - Soccer rules the roost

So at most 15,000? I doubt that but. If we broke it down from 80 - 60 year olds 60-40 year olds and so on not as many as that 30,000 that was being said.

It's still a hell of a lot of people!

Yeah, definately a club in there for sure.

If in Dunmurray area, who do you play for or is that the same area?

Lurgan has population of 30k. Within a 6 mile radius it has 9 clubs.

Within in a six mile radius of poleglass 8 or 9 west Belfast clubs, then st Pats in Lisburn...

The problem with this area is soccer, the biggest participated sport on this island unfortunately, and better run ffs!

Yes. But there's about 100k ppl within that 6 miles radius of Poleglass. It's up to the GAA to get into that area and get some more participants. As I said the other day, 1 million over 5 years isn't going to solve that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 01, 2021, 01:29:04 AM
I'm with you and for many years I was at the coal face looking after under 10/12 hurling in my club for 6 years!

Tough gig considering the footballers same age,  had over twice as many!!!
Bastids!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 04, 2021, 10:32:09 PM
Fball leagues to start end Feb 21. What are the chances of getting things moving on this date
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2021, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 04, 2021, 10:32:09 PM
Fball leagues to start end Feb 21. What are the chances of getting things moving on this date

Seems premature, would be great
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 04, 2021, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 04, 2021, 10:32:09 PM
Fball leagues to start end Feb 21. What are the chances of getting things moving on this date

What leagues, the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 04, 2021, 11:00:31 PM
Email to club secretary re club leagues I believe
Adults fball league Feb and Hurling mid April
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2021, 11:01:47 PM
Was due to be split leagues... league games then a break, county they split then back to league and championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 04, 2021, 11:01:56 PM
28th is proposed date - issued this afternoon. Yet with another lock down and training curbs, I cant see it starting by then

Hurling 11th April
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 05, 2021, 11:53:42 AM
See Gaelfast chief story in Irish News today - He diD have a good CV hurling for Rossa / N Pol / Antrim and N Pol chairman but I though he was more into PR than actual brand new projects - not an easy job I suppose....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 05, 2021, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 05, 2021, 11:53:42 AM
See Gaelfast chief story in Irish News today - He diD have a good CV hurling for Rossa / N Pol / Antrim and N Pol chairman but I though he was more into PR than actual brand new projects - not an easy job I suppose....

I'd have thought his role in Sport NI and the fact that's he's got a doctorate in Sports Science would have cut a bit more delf with the interview panel than his playing and chairman stints otherwise you'd be giving the job to Sambo or Woody and hoping for the best in them managing a major project like this. Having good knowledge of the internal politics of Antrim GAA through his playing/chairman/development squad coaching would have given a greater insight of how this works.

I thought they'd gone about it the right way, from the ground up in the primary schools and build from there. Create the links to the clubs for the kids and improve the coaching/fixtures in the process gives Antrim GAA a bigger pool to work with up through the years and it was always going to be a 10 plus years project before you really reap the rewards like Dublin and Limerick in the hurling.

Where do I apply?   ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 07:02:33 AM
Until we deal with the role of the county secretary and make it significantly more accountable for the salary that is paid we will always struggle to attract the right people and keep them ... The GAA has changed significantly over the past 10 years and this role needs to be re-structured properly. The job specification needs to reflect the influence and responsibility that comes with it and it's attractive salary and expenses. It wouldn't be allowed to happen in the private sector as it presently sits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 07:02:33 AM
Until we deal with the role of the county secretary and make it significantly more accountable for the salary that is paid we will always struggle to attract the right people and keep them ... The GAA has changed significantly over the past 10 years and this role needs to be re-structured properly. The job specification needs to reflect the influence and responsibility that comes with it and it's attractive salary and expenses. It wouldn't be allowed to happen in the private sector as it presently sits.

Its funny that a role or position in the county is leaves you on peoples crosshairs...

Secretary, whether club or county is one of the most demanding roles, certainly the work of our current club sec and previous secretary's has been very demanding and not a role I'd put my hand up for whether its paid or not.

We had a role for Gaelfast and with the most qualified person we could get, yet for some on here they questioned his appointment and why was nothing happening, these people were demanding so much in 6 months. 

Outline the roles of the County Secretary, as I assume it would be similar to what the club sec does, i.e dealing with all the shit. Though I could be wrong, just curious. Maybe attach a link to the job description.

I've had many issues over my playing and managing years with the county, on decisions they took, mainly with the league set ups and so on. I can't imagine trying to please every chairman in the county can be easy. I say there will be plenty applying for this post when it becomes available, and no doubt plenty complaining when someone is in the post!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 07:02:33 AM
Until we deal with the role of the county secretary and make it significantly more accountable for the salary that is paid we will always struggle to attract the right people and keep them ... The GAA has changed significantly over the past 10 years and this role needs to be re-structured properly. The job specification needs to reflect the influence and responsibility that comes with it and it's attractive salary and expenses. It wouldn't be allowed to happen in the private sector as it presently sits.

You seem to be blaming the secretary on Gaelfast appointment which on paper ticked all the boxes?
Very Surprising the Irish New didn't ask why the chief left as no doubt it would be good information to see how best to take Gaelfast forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Would never Question the appointment, thought it was an excellent one MR nor what Gealfast is trying to achieve as it will be an uphill struggle for any individual and their team... Theres nothing more i would want than to see the FT post of County Secretary advertised and a completely independent body access all candidates in a proper , professional and open manner, and the best individual appointed on experience and qualifications and interpersonal skills simple and as straight forward as that... And to Belfast GAA Man where did i mention Gealfast or appointments by County Secretary in what I said...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Would never Question the appointment, thought it was an excellent one MR nor what Gealfast is trying to achieve as it will be an uphill struggle for any individual and their team... Theres nothing more i would want than to see the FT post of County Secretary advertised and a completely independent body access all candidates in a proper , professional and open manner, and the best individual appointed on experience and qualifications and interpersonal skills simple and as straight forward as that... And to Belfast GAA Man where did i mention Gealfast or appointments by County Secretary in what I said...

I think the likes of the the county sec job is like any job, your are in the role until you retire, I don't think there is a fixed time period, as its a fulltime post..

Are you advocating for a fixed term job? Would be very difficult to have someone leave a post to move to a job that will only be available for, lets say 5 years, don't you think?

Again I don't think the job is as comfy as you have made out, and not a post that I would care to do, even at club level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Would never Question the appointment, thought it was an excellent one MR nor what Gealfast is trying to achieve as it will be an uphill struggle for any individual and their team... Theres nothing more i would want than to see the FT post of County Secretary advertised and a completely independent body access all candidates in a proper , professional and open manner, and the best individual appointed on experience and qualifications and interpersonal skills simple and as straight forward as that... And to Belfast GAA Man where did i mention Gealfast or appointments by County Secretary in what I said...

I think the likes of the the county sec job is like any job, your are in the role until you retire, I don't think there is a fixed time period, as its a fulltime post..

Are you advocating for a fixed term job? Would be very difficult to have someone leave a post to move to a job that will only be available for, lets say 5 years, don't you think?

Again I don't think the job is as comfy as you have made out, and not a post that I would care to do, even at club level

And there in lies the problem, much like whats going on with the C19, where is the real accountability thats what I'm advocating for. . As previously stated in the private sector as you know, you fail in your role ultimately you will get the road and rightly so..unless your a Civil Servant ( not having a pop btw at our CS colleagues on the site) The GAA effectively is a large corporate business now at County and Croke level and because "you knew a man who knew a man" doesn't cut it anymore. I know a lot a good lads salt of the earth etc but thick as pig shit commercially etc and thats fine each to their own.  We cant have that at such imo a pivotal role in the association in the present day at this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Would never Question the appointment, thought it was an excellent one MR nor what Gealfast is trying to achieve as it will be an uphill struggle for any individual and their team... Theres nothing more i would want than to see the FT post of County Secretary advertised and a completely independent body access all candidates in a proper , professional and open manner, and the best individual appointed on experience and qualifications and interpersonal skills simple and as straight forward as that... And to Belfast GAA Man where did i mention Gealfast or appointments by County Secretary in what I said...

I think the likes of the the county sec job is like any job, your are in the role until you retire, I don't think there is a fixed time period, as its a fulltime post..

Are you advocating for a fixed term job? Would be very difficult to have someone leave a post to move to a job that will only be available for, lets say 5 years, don't you think?

Again I don't think the job is as comfy as you have made out, and not a post that I would care to do, even at club level

And there in lies the problem, much like whats going on with the C19, where is the real accountability thats what I'm advocating for. . As previously stated in the private sector as you know, you fail in your role ultimately you will get the road and rightly so..unless your a Civil Servant ( not having a pop btw at our CS colleagues on the site) The GAA effectively is a large corporate business now at County and Croke level and because "you knew a man who knew a man" doesn't cut it anymore. I know a lot a good lads salt of the earth etc but thick as pig shit commercially etc and thats fine each to their own.  We cant have that at such imo a pivotal role in the association in the present day at this level.

That's why I'm asking for a job description, I'm not sure, other than what our club sec does (and very good at it also) for us, what a county secretary is meant to do extra?

Has the role of a county secretary changed to include being commercially competent, or is that a role for someone else who has those skills?

I know the county secretary has a million and one jobs to do, not a post I'd put my hand up for
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 06, 2021, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 05, 2021, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 05, 2021, 11:53:42 AM
See Gaelfast chief story in Irish News today - He diD have a good CV hurling for Rossa / N Pol / Antrim and N Pol chairman but I though he was more into PR than actual brand new projects - not an easy job I suppose....

I'd have thought his role in Sport NI and the fact that's he's got a doctorate in Sports Science would have cut a bit more delf with the interview panel than his playing and chairman stints otherwise you'd be giving the job to Sambo or Woody and hoping for the best in them managing a major project like this. Having good knowledge of the internal politics of Antrim GAA through his playing/chairman/development squad coaching would have given a greater insight of how this works.

I thought they'd gone about it the right way, from the ground up in the primary schools and build from there. Create the links to the clubs for the kids and improve the coaching/fixtures in the process gives Antrim GAA a bigger pool to work with up through the years and it was always going to be a 10 plus years project before you really reap the rewards like Dublin and Limerick in the hurling.

Where do I apply?   ;D

MR2, I've been reading over previous articles and press releases on Gaelfast in recent days. Belfast was to be the focus of activity (20 Antrim clubs in greater Belfast area). Aim was apparently to increase participation in GAA especially in non traditional areas and in turn higher club members over time. However Galefast was surprisingly as far away from Belfast as possible in North Antrim clubs?
Was this part of the initial plan, was this a reason for lack of progress, was there buy in or approval for widening the scheme across Antrim before any tangible success in Belfast.
I can only assume that there was a fall-out over who was in control of the plan and its content. Was it a direct line to  Dublin for Galefast or was Antrim board in charge with its Gaelfast management committee. Were relationships fractured?
Who knows, but disappointing that a scheme launched with a fanfare in Belfast City Hall April 2018 is now rudderless.
Covid has had serious impact on Gaelfast in 2020 but almost 3 years on from launching this there is not much to report.
It now looks like a poisoned chalice for whoever bravely or perhaps foolishly sticks their head above the parapet to take it on. It has deteriorated into a shambles now really and future funding may not be forthcoming. Who would want to take on this fiasco
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 01:10:45 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Would never Question the appointment, thought it was an excellent one MR nor what Gealfast is trying to achieve as it will be an uphill struggle for any individual and their team... Theres nothing more i would want than to see the FT post of County Secretary advertised and a completely independent body access all candidates in a proper , professional and open manner, and the best individual appointed on experience and qualifications and interpersonal skills simple and as straight forward as that... And to Belfast GAA Man where did i mention Gealfast or appointments by County Secretary in what I said...
Apologies if i picked you up wronG u seemed to bring county sec into a post about the change at Gaelfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 01:10:45 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Would never Question the appointment, thought it was an excellent one MR nor what Gealfast is trying to achieve as it will be an uphill struggle for any individual and their team... Theres nothing more i would want than to see the FT post of County Secretary advertised and a completely independent body access all candidates in a proper , professional and open manner, and the best individual appointed on experience and qualifications and interpersonal skills simple and as straight forward as that... And to Belfast GAA Man where did i mention Gealfast or appointments by County Secretary in what I said...
Apologies if i picked you up wronG u seemed to bring county sec into a post about the change at Gaelfast

No worries B GAA M
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 06, 2021, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 05, 2021, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 05, 2021, 11:53:42 AM
See Gaelfast chief story in Irish News today - He diD have a good CV hurling for Rossa / N Pol / Antrim and N Pol chairman but I though he was more into PR than actual brand new projects - not an easy job I suppose....

I'd have thought his role in Sport NI and the fact that's he's got a doctorate in Sports Science would have cut a bit more delf with the interview panel than his playing and chairman stints otherwise you'd be giving the job to Sambo or Woody and hoping for the best in them managing a major project like this. Having good knowledge of the internal politics of Antrim GAA through his playing/chairman/development squad coaching would have given a greater insight of how this works.

I thought they'd gone about it the right way, from the ground up in the primary schools and build from there. Create the links to the clubs for the kids and improve the coaching/fixtures in the process gives Antrim GAA a bigger pool to work with up through the years and it was always going to be a 10 plus years project before you really reap the rewards like Dublin and Limerick in the hurling.

Where do I apply?   ;D

MR2, I've been reading over previous articles and press releases on Gaelfast in recent days. Belfast was to be the focus of activity (20 Antrim clubs in greater Belfast area). Aim was apparently to increase participation in GAA especially in non traditional areas and in turn higher club members over time. However Galefast was surprisingly as far away from Belfast as possible in North Antrim clubs?
Was this part of the initial plan, was this a reason for lack of progress, was there buy in or approval for widening the scheme across Antrim before any tangible success in Belfast.
I can only assume that there was a fall-out over who was in control of the plan and its content. Was it a direct line to  Dublin for Galefast or was Antrim board in charge with its Gaelfast management committee. Were relationships fractured?
Who knows, but disappointing that a scheme launched with a fanfare in Belfast City Hall April 2018 is now rudderless.
Covid has had serious impact on Gaelfast in 2020 but almost 3 years on from launching this there is not much to report.
It now looks like a poisoned chalice for whoever bravely or perhaps foolishly sticks their head above the parapet to take it on. It has deteriorated into a shambles now really and future funding may not be forthcoming. Who would want to take on this fiasco

So it failed because it dipped its toe into North Antrim..?

Galefast I'd assume was run by Paul and his team of coaches.. Again I'd assume that there was a manager of sorts from Croke Park looking in and monitoring the progress, completely correct when funding is approved.

As for the Antrim board, which has its own areas to look after, as in county teams all levels the clubs up and down the country, the fixtures, discipline CCC, the championships,  building Casement and the refereeing of our games, I'd assume they have plenty on their plate to work with.

I'm doing a lot of assuming, as like most, I'm not involved in that set up nor do I any real knowledge on it other than the what's put out on media platforms.

We've nearly had a year of inactivity, the focus of this project was looking at primary level kids, from the ground up. What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding, this is a genuine question btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 06, 2021, 02:21:40 PM
MR2,  serious points.
All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support.
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO.
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 02:29:35 PM

All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.  This was part of the plan
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support. I'm sure when Gaelfast was set up the plan was set out to those involved
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO. North Antrim not involved, I'll give you that
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this. This is the same point as above, understandable but S/W committee not involved with Galefast anyways
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required. Croke Park are involved from day one and a line manager reviews this I assume

If you know different I'd be interested in hearing

So back to my point, What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 06, 2021, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2021, 02:58:11 PM
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 06, 2021, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 02:29:35 PM

All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.  This was part of the plan
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support. I'm sure when Gaelfast was set up the plan was set out to those involved
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO. North Antrim not involved, I'll give you that
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this. This is the same point as above, understandable but S/W committee not involved with Galefast anyways
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required. Croke Park are involved from day one and a line manager reviews this I assume

If you know different I'd be interested in hearing

So back to my point, What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding
MR2,  you couldn't enjoy a pint with yourself.
Let's see the plan, measure the numbers  increase in members or participants and keep Croke involved and at the table to oversee and maintain funding
After Bannsides post I will let this matter drop as I've no hidden agenda. Like all Antrim Gaels just seeking the best for our county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 06, 2021, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 02:29:35 PM

All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.  This was part of the plan
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support. I'm sure when Gaelfast was set up the plan was set out to those involved
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO. North Antrim not involved, I'll give you that
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this. This is the same point as above, understandable but S/W committee not involved with Galefast anyways
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required. Croke Park are involved from day one and a line manager reviews this I assume

If you know different I'd be interested in hearing

So back to my point, What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding
MR2,  you couldn't enjoy a pint with yourself.
Let's see the plan, measure the numbers  increase in members or participants and keep Croke involved and at the table to oversee and maintain funding
After Bannsides post I will let this matter drop as I've no hidden agenda. Like all Antrim Gaels just seeking the best for our county

That's ok, I never brought the topic up, I was happy with the direction it was going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 06, 2021, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2021, 02:58:11 PM
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
I think I'll ignore the gagging order bannside! this is a discussion baord and has its own moderator. So your thinking is lets stay quiet and hope Gaelfast gets sorted out by the people who have been running it for the last 2/3 years
Censorship is wrong and it is all committed Gaels on this board - lets' not blow Gaelfast opportunity because We are afraid to speak up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 06, 2021, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2021, 02:58:11 PM
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
I think I'll ignore the gagging order bannside! this is a discussion baord and has its own moderator. So your thinking is lets stay quiet and hope Gaelfast gets sorted out by the people who have been running it for the last 2/3 years
Censorship is wrong and it is all committed Gaels on this board - lets' not blow Gaelfast opportunity because We are afraid to speak up

Couple questions then as you know more than me on this..

When did Gaelfast start it's recruitment for its coaches?

Out of the period that's it's up and running, how long have they been furloughed?

Who do they report to quarterly in Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 06, 2021, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 06, 2021, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 06, 2021, 02:58:11 PM
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
I think I'll ignore the gagging order bannside! this is a discussion baord and has its own moderator. So your thinking is lets stay quiet and hope Gaelfast gets sorted out by the people who have been running it for the last 2/3 years
Censorship is wrong and it is all committed Gaels on this board - lets' not blow Gaelfast opportunity because We are afraid to speak up

Couple questions then as you know more than me on this..

When did Gaelfast start it's recruitment for its coaches?

Out of the period that's it's up and running, how long have they been furloughed?

Who do they report to quarterly in Belfast?
Gaelfast reports jointly to a management committee which is made up by antrim GAA and croke park I believe monthly
Recruited staff 2 and half years ago and not working for 6/7 months


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2021, 10:31:29 PM
Im not pro board or anti board on this Belfastgaaman and Ive no doubt you are as committed or as passionate about Antrim succeeding as all on here.

We all have valid grievances and run ins at different times with officialdom - manys a time I sat on top of that list of persona non grata - but all Im saying is that there cannot be any merit debating the matter in this particular forum at this time. What might be the obvious outcome if the mud starts to sling. How would you see this pan out? What are you really hoping to achieve?

If and when a suitable replacement for PD is found, what recomendations would you like to see implemented or done differently. How can a negative situation be turned into a positive one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2021, 10:35:04 PM
So I remember seeing something on recruitment back in April 19.. So if I get that right that's about 10 months that the staff were fully implemented. Then furlough.

What's the plan? I haven't seen it. What does it consist of? Be interested in seeing the route you'd take

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2021, 04:48:34 PM
Ok here we go
target 10 Belfast pRimary schools who have little or no GAA
gets the coaches in to them and coach kids and teachers
link each of them up with a club
maKe all this public so clubs can row in behind
once primary teachers trained up a bit move half the coaches to 5 secondary schools with little or no GAA

I dnot have access to all the reports and Stats but that's the bones of it

Tear it To pieces boy and girls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 07, 2021, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 07, 2021, 04:48:34 PM
Ok here we go
target 10 Belfast pRimary schools who have little or no GAA
gets the coaches in to them and coach kids and teachers
link each of them up with a club
maKe all this public so clubs can row in behind
once primary teachers trained up a bit move half the coaches to 5 secondary schools with little or no GAA

I dnot have access to all the reports and Stats but that's the bones of it

Tear it To pieces boy and girls

Clubs attached to local schools was established in Ciara Ferry's time as Games Dev Manager. A few issues arose- some clubs were unable to provide support on the ground to the school.

Some primary schools were located close to smaller club units, who were unable to manage ...bigger clubs came along and edged them out .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 07, 2021, 10:20:50 PM
Start of league competitions pushed back due to cuurent Covid situation,  dates will be kept under review, with as much notice as possible to be given to start dates. No real surprise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on January 08, 2021, 05:33:04 PM
Been struck down with Covid the past number of weeks, so playing catch up

Colleges football -
When we discuss Colleges football, the focus should not be on the MacRory or McLarnon cup per se, it's the GAA culture within the schools that is important. I went to St Pats Maghera. During the first three years, PE classes were non apologetically GAA based with a little bit of other sports thrown in. But in 4th year PE was now totally focused on other sports, fitness elements.

In first year we had the 1st year championship, all classes represented.  This was a big deal. Each class picked their own team. We had a group stage and then semi finals and final. During the semis and final the whole of 1st and 2nd year watched, close to 500. This was held at the end of the year just before the St Mary's 1st year blitz and helped the teachers pick the squad. The atmosphere during the finals was electric and it helped establish the school spirit, and to be honest, St Pats became my second club because of it.

The real value of this process was that close to 100 boys were coached all year long on the "St Pats Way", and this went on for close to 3 years. The 100 boys fed back into around 15-20 clubs in the SW Antrim, S Derry area. That raised playing standards in the county and was a major contributing factor in regards to the standard of minor football in Derry at that time.

From a schools point of view, Big A was the main man for  MacRory, but there was a team of coaches who were involved at the various grades and who all helped Big A in Mac Rory. Also the focus was on competing at younger grades and winning MacRory Cups

This system was repeated for Hurling and camogie.

The focus in Antrim should be on how many schools in Antrim have a true GAA culture. How many schools have a systemic 7 year coaching program within the school to produce good players ( not good enough to wait for a good group every 10 years)

Gaelfast - my understanding was that some in the SW  were unhappy at the Belfast focus on the proposal and that it should have been county wide like Dublin's (granted Dublin is majority city). Feedback from the county executive was that Gaelfast was to be Belfast focused but coaches will also support the regional divisions to help improve standards county wide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 09, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
Who ever thought theY would miss mckenna cup ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 10, 2021, 12:18:50 PM
Even the McKenna's would not miss the McKenna cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 10, 2021, 08:06:07 PM
MR2 have you lost Your whistle? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 10, 2021, 08:06:07 PM
MR2 have you lost Your whistle? ;D

Sorry was I to respond to something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2021, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 10, 2021, 08:06:07 PM
MR2 have you lost Your whistle? ;D

Sorry was I to respond to something?
U usuallY comment back on all gaelfast posts but you haven't reCently - didnt have u down as a man who would obey a gagging order from a yes man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2021, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 10, 2021, 08:06:07 PM
MR2 have you lost Your whistle? ;D

Sorry was I to respond to something?
U usuallY comment back on all gaelfast posts but you haven't reCently - didnt have u down as a man who would obey a gagging order from a yes man

If he leaves me a question I'll respond. Would be rude if I didn't.

I'm sure all is well in Belfast GAA, now that there will be more openness in Gaelfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 11, 2021, 11:08:06 PM
Yes Man... now thats definitely a first! We definitely are living in strange times lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 12, 2021, 07:21:37 AM
Pity there wasn't a gagging order for a few other lads.. 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 12, 2021, 07:47:17 AM
Pity mainstream politics wouldn't stay out of local Gaa it doesn't mix, wishing PD every success in his new role at UU.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 12, 2021, 08:23:44 AM
Thats an interesting assertion Whatwillb.

Looks like the pandemic has caused chaos with GAA finances. The knock on effect does not look promising. Will there even be a NFL this year? That prospect is diminishing by the day due to counties simply not being able to absorb the expense of inter county competition without the standard €80k annual funding grant from Croke Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 12, 2021, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 12, 2021, 08:23:44 AM
Thats an interesting assertion Whatwillb.

Looks like the pandemic has caused chaos with GAA finances. The knock on effect does not look promising. Will there even be a NFL this year? That prospect is diminishing by the day due to counties simply not being able to absorb the expense of inter county competition without the standard €80k annual funding grant from Croke Park.

In the medium term this might not be the worst thing, a total reset for the game in terms of this professional type of preparation county teams are now going through.

This was never a sustainable process IMO and this crisis while wholly unwanted might be just what is required. Hopefully it will filter down to club teams as well and the will a revisiting of the crazy money that some clubs are paying out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on January 12, 2021, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2021, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 12, 2021, 08:23:44 AM
Thats an interesting assertion Whatwillb.

Looks like the pandemic has caused chaos with GAA finances. The knock on effect does not look promising. Will there even be a NFL this year? That prospect is diminishing by the day due to counties simply not being able to absorb the expense of inter county competition without the standard €80k annual funding grant from Croke Park.

In the medium term this might not be the worst thing, a total reset for the game in terms of this professional type of preparation county teams are now going through.

This was never a sustainable process IMO and this crisis while wholly unwanted might be just was is required. Hopefully it will filter down to club teams as well and the will a revisiting of the crazy money that some clubs are paying out.

Fair enough point but who's going to stop?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Not St Endas anyway as They have appointed another hiredhand Carl mcCabe of St Galls & Omagh. They seem addicted to the paid outsider in all Codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on January 12, 2021, 08:28:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Not St Endas anyway as They have appointed another hiredhand Carl mcCabe of St Galls & Omagh. They seem addicted to the paid outsider in all Codes

Must be serious money about Glengormley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 13, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Not St Endas anyway as They have appointed another hiredhand Carl mcCabe of St Galls & Omagh. They seem addicted to the paid outsider in all Codes

Are you helping to pay for the hired help?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2021, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Not St Endas anyway as They have appointed another hiredhand Carl mcCabe of St Galls & Omagh. They seem addicted to the paid outsider in all Codes

Are you helping to pay for the hired help?
[/quote No I have principles and U CAnt buy those
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 14, 2021, 11:42:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2021, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Not St Endas anyway as They have appointed another hiredhand Carl mcCabe of St Galls & Omagh. They seem addicted to the paid outsider in all Codes

Are you helping to pay for the hired help?
[/quote No I have principles and U CAnt buy those

Eat, sleep, work and complain about Clubs paying managers, repeat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 14, 2021, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2021, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 12, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Not St Endas anyway as They have appointed another hiredhand Carl mcCabe of St Galls & Omagh. They seem addicted to the paid outsider in all Codes

Are you helping to pay for the hired help?
[/quote No I have principles and U CAnt buy those

Would listen to yourself you muppet. County secretaries paid, 40 plus employees including coaches etc paid just in the Ulster council alone, never mind the multiple games development managers and gpo's in counties. Physio, masseurs, video analysis, club grounds men, pitch maintenance companies, I could write an essay and you blether on about managers. Antrim are so far behind because we have dinosaur's like you. Its a wonder your not giving out about Peter Quinn for not building the new croke park with volunteer brickies, electricians and jooiners etc. Those days are long gone, because people are so busy now and also the role is v specialised, and for clubs who have ambition they realise they need that expertise of its doesn't exist in their club. Most clubs don't. Might have it at underage which is simple coaching with young boys, but senior football is different gravy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 14, 2021, 03:46:15 PM
Only one issue with your sentiments there DK, we are where we are because of the dinosaurs that have played musical chairs with the roles over this last 15years within the county not BGAAM he pays into ever game and follows his county with bind faith id say, full clear out required a long long time ago, apart from that your spot on...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
Yeah I do rabbit on like a muppeT ! class ;D
Its unsustainable in club football IMO but sure ill keep it to myself and join LaLA land of the yes men
We do need some actual action to comment on For sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 15, 2021, 09:35:34 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
Yeah I do rabbit on like a muppeT ! class ;D
Its unsustainable in club football IMO but sure ill keep it to myself and join LaLA land of the yes men
We do need some actual action to comment on For sure

Based on what evidence, your opinion, thats not evidence. It is on the increase, thats evidence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
Yeah I do rabbit on like a muppeT ! class ;D
Its unsustainable in club football IMO but sure ill keep it to myself and join LaLA land of the yes men
We do need some actual action to comment on For sure

What kind of money do you think these guys are getting lol. This is not ferraris, yachts and 2nd houses - it's in most cases, in antrim club football particularly, probably little more than expenses.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2021, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
Yeah I do rabbit on like a muppeT ! class ;D
Its unsustainable in club football IMO but sure ill keep it to myself and join LaLA land of the yes men
We do need some actual action to comment on For sure

What kind of money do you think these guys are getting lol. This is not ferraris, yachts and 2nd houses - it's in most cases, in antrim club football particularly, probably little more than expenses.
the money mentionEd from the likes of cargin and cregan is 20 to 30k
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 10:42:38 AM
Yeah the money mentioned might be. How true that is is another matter altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 15, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 10:42:38 AM
Yeah the money mentioned might be. How true that is is another matter altogether.

Well to be fair the track record of the Cargin boss would lead you to believe that it would be significantly more than 'just over expenses'  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 15, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 10:42:38 AM
Yeah the money mentioned might be. How true that is is another matter altogether.

Well to be fair the track record of the Cargin boss would lead you to believe that it would be significantly more than 'just over expenses'  ;)

And if someone is willing to pay him his 'expenses' then so be it....

He's been great value for it in the Antrim Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 11:47:44 AM
There will be the odd exception but I imagine most of the ones won't exactly have life changing experiences based on what they get... I suspect a lot of what managers get is very much embellished. I wouldn't believe the half of it lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 12:18:24 PM
 I doubt those type of figures are to be believed.

Genuine question are there any division 1 clubs in Antrim that haven't paid an outside manager or football coach in the last 5 years? Cargin Creggan LD St endas Aghagallon portglenone st galls
ahoghill gort ma Mona have been paying. Not sure about the johnnies.

Go into division 2 and off the top of my head ballymena Whitehill Moneyglass Aldergrove have all had outsiders. You'd think by the chat from some on here that only 2 or 3 clubs paid and the rest had homegrown volunteers. Fake news!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 12:41:15 PM
Rossa, Johnnies would have...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 01:16:48 PM
Full house then MR! Let he who is without sin..



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 01:16:48 PM
Full house then MR! Let he who is without sin..

Sorry didn't finish that, they'd have home grown, we've also had home grown past 5 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2021, 01:40:56 PM
St Johns, LD, Rossa, St Tereasas, Sarsfields, St Agnes, Eire Og havent I believe - less moNey in city swashing about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Are you sure about that?

LD had the big heavy fella from Tyrone
Aggies had tiffi quinn errigal Ciaran
Johnnies Marron from Moneyglass
Teresa's big lad from Ahoghill
Ardoyne Ross carr

But you carry on BGM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2021, 03:14:25 PM
Any LD match ive seen its been Lynch and Mccruddent
St Johns - JohN Kelly or Nugent
Club men hardly getting paiD?
were the other assistants?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 03:29:33 PM
Yes both had external memory doing the coaching
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Are you sure about that?

LD had the big heavy fella from Tyrone
Aggies had tiffi quinn errigal Ciaran
Johnnies Marron from Moneyglass
Teresa's big lad from Ahoghill
Ardoyne Ross carr

But you carry on BGM

What Marron? And what lad from Ahoghill?

What club hasn't had some form of outside management or coaching?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 03:45:33 PM
Fella that used to go goals for them. Think it's Benny but not certain.

Aghoghill fella with St T was a neeson

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 15, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Are you sure about that?

LD had the big heavy fella from Tyrone
Aggies had tiffi quinn errigal Ciaran
Johnnies Marron from Moneyglass
Teresa's big lad from Ahoghill
Ardoyne Ross carr

But you carry on BGM

What Marron? And what lad from Ahoghill?

What club hasn't had some form of outside management or coaching?

Whatever club Belfast Gaa Man is from wouldn't dare to have had...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2021, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 15, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Are you sure about that?

LD had the big heavy fella from Tyrone
Aggies had tiffi quinn errigal Ciaran
Johnnies Marron from Moneyglass
Teresa's big lad from Ahoghill
Ardoyne Ross carr

But you carry on BGM

What Marron? And what lad from Ahoghill?

What club hasn't had some form of outside management or coaching?

Whatever club Belfast Gaa Man is from wouldn't dare to have had...
yip we struggle to pay the lEague fees nearly every year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2021, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2021, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2021, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 15, 2021, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: Cranfield on January 15, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Are you sure about that?

LD had the big heavy fella from Tyrone
Aggies had tiffi quinn errigal Ciaran
Johnnies Marron from Moneyglass
Teresa's big lad from Ahoghill
Ardoyne Ross carr

But you carry on BGM

What Marron? And what lad from Ahoghill?

What club hasn't had some form of outside management or coaching?

Whatever club Belfast Gaa Man is from wouldn't dare to have had...
yip we struggle to pay the lEague fees nearly every year

About time you opened a social club then.. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 15, 2021, 11:43:31 PM
Payment of management has always been a thorny issue for us Gaels. Here are my thoughts.

I would not be in favour of it but I know it goes on, a bit like the parish priest and adultery.. Lol, but over time people have looked the other way at this practice.
I grew up in Belfast and now live in my country mansion and I feel there's generally a different stance on this topic between Belfast & SW with country clubs being more Liberal IMO.  There could be many reasons for this, the traditional and historic over reliance on social clubs in Belfast (I benefited as a youth player from this income), greater parochial pull in the country and this is a possibly discussion for a different day.
However for me there's an easy way to show why we should not pay.
The rumours are annual amounts £10 - £30 K for coaches, if £15 k is taken then that's roughly 250 size 5 O'Neills f/balls foregone  or a new kit for every team in the club every year or a new minibus every few years... Etc. It could even pay insurance costs and fees each year or reduce the cost of membership in difficult times. Everyone benefits.
For clubs that use in house coaches how would they feel or react if paid managers come in. It's hardly a vote of confidence in their ability and if clubs insist on paying then could they pay their own ex players first....reward them for the years of self sacrifice and service.
Clubs in the SW have supposedly paid top dollar for a good number of years but this has not paid dividends  with silverware. I think that only Cargin from SW have won senior championship with St Galls/Johns/Pauls Rossa and L D all wining fromn1990 to 2020.  My fear is that the chase success at all costs culture could in the near future result in outside minor coaches being paid. This would be a fatal blow to our organisation. I know this idea can be scoffed at but 30 years ago were we paying outside managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 11:59:56 PM
30 years ago and more there was 'incentives' not just for managers but players also, especially in Belfast ffs..

Jobs, 'expenses' has been about for a long time, back when you had to make a call to arrange a game,  players notifications and the like, I'd have had those costs covered going back 20 years or more and that was for looking after the Southy team when I was player manager, so there was ones getting more than me for the senior teams.

Payments have been and will continue to be done.

Take the nolgastic glasses off, it happened

I definitely think the prices seem higher than the actual tbf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: Peter john on January 16, 2021, 01:16:06 PM
Milltown if memory serves me right,Fay Devlin and Gavin Mc Geehan were part of P Murray management last season,weren't driving for the loughshore for nothing

I think if you're driving any distance you won't use your own fuel, and why should they?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 06:18:42 PM
so are  youse boys saying make manager payments part of the rules so its not cheating and secretive? At least that with some caps on the amounts paid and proper penalties for breaking trules would be better than the murky stuff we have now. still have My doubts it can be afforded in Long run
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 06:18:42 PM
so are  youse boys saying make manager payments part of the rules so its not cheating and secretive? At least that with some caps on the amounts paid and proper penalties for breaking trules would be better than the murky stuff we have now. still have My doubts it can be afforded in Long run

Who's saying that?

If I've asked ( say I'm a manager) someone to travel 60 miles to coach or do strength conditioning, something I'm not skilled at I shouldn't pay him for coming up the road?

Very bizarre, and another thing if the players or an outside person pays for it then what's the issue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 16, 2021, 07:44:56 PM
MR2 Incoherent gobbledygook
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 06:18:42 PM
so are  youse boys saying make manager payments part of the rules so its not cheating and secretive? At least that with some caps on the amounts paid and proper penalties for breaking trules would be better than the murky stuff we have now. still have My doubts it can be afforded in Long run

Who's saying that?

If I've asked ( say I'm a manager) someone to travel 60 miles to coach or do strength conditioning, something I'm not skilled at I shouldn't pay him for coming up the road?

Very bizarre, and another thing if the players of an outside person pays for it then what's the issue?
The issue is that u Just cant have no rules about money or the richest just buy the championship with highly Paid coaches, managrs backrom teams, etc etc  - so you Want no rules on money???????? would like to ref a Match with no rules??????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 09:01:17 PM
I'm really surprised you 'two' came together straight after that.

Ok what's wrong with paying someone for traveling? But ok to pay a physio?

Answer me that you two or one I suspect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 09:01:17 PM
I'm really surprised you 'two' came together straight after that.

Ok what's wrong with paying someone for traveling? But ok to pay a physio?

Answer me that you two or one I suspect
Do You really have no worries about the richest clubs using ther money to buy their Way to success?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 09:01:17 PM
I'm really surprised you 'two' came together straight after that.

Ok what's wrong with paying someone for traveling? But ok to pay a physio?

Answer me that you two or one I suspect
Do You really have no worries about the richest clubs using ther money to buy their Way to success?

I'll ask one more time, if you don't want to answer it that's fine.

Do you expect to have someone drive 120 round trip for nothing? Do you think a physio should be doing it for nothing? And while I'm at it should referees get no expenses either?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 10:39:07 PM
reasonable expenses is no big issuE for me.
Ill ask u again Rich clubS paying big money for coaches etc is fair? when not every Club has money to do it
YouU are a tad paranoid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 10:44:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 10:39:07 PM
reasonable expenses is no big issuE for me.
Ill ask u again Rich clubS paying big money for coaches etc is fair? when not every Club has money to do it
YouU are a tad paranoid

Paranoid?

Listen if it's not in the rules it's wrong, there's ifs buts or maybes, what happens happens, it's up to Croke Park to stamp down on it..

By the same token expenses should be paid to all volunteers, no one should be out of pocket
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 10:44:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 10:39:07 PM
reasonable expenses is no big issuE for me.
Ill ask u again Rich clubS paying big money for coaches etc is fair? when not every Club has money to do it
YouU are a tad paranoid

Paranoid?

Listen if it's not in the rules it's wrong, there's ifs buts or maybes, what happens happens, it's up to Croke Park to stamp down on it..

By the same token expenses should be paid to all volunteers, no one should be out of pocket
Let's cut to chase - u think it ok example for a Sean kelly or ciaran mcgourty to be paid by St Johns to manage St Johns against st galls and beat st galls? when they learnt all they know at st galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 10:44:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 16, 2021, 10:39:07 PM
reasonable expenses is no big issuE for me.
Ill ask u again Rich clubS paying big money for coaches etc is fair? when not every Club has money to do it
YouU are a tad paranoid

Paranoid?

Listen if it's not in the rules it's wrong, there's ifs buts or maybes, what happens happens, it's up to Croke Park to stamp down on it..

By the same token expenses should be paid to all volunteers, no one should be out of pocket
Let's cut to chase - u think it ok example for a Sean kelly or ciaran mcgourty to be paid by St Johns to manage St Johns against st galls and beat st galls? when they learnt all they know at st galls

What chase? Those lads live in Belfast so no expenses would be given, and those lads wouldn't be accepted or go to the Johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 16, 2021, 11:27:25 PM
I'm not a fan of paying coaches but when a club is left without options within, what do they do?
The workload involved with senior management is heavy and there aren't always people stepping up to do it.
It's ok for people to say about coaches working with underage teams but in truth how many are capable of managing a group of 30 adults?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 17, 2021, 08:59:10 PM
As you may have seen I'm not a fan of paying coaches either but acknowledge that mileage and valid expenses go with the territory these days.
I understand that managing 30 adults would be difficult but so are positions such as club Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary.

I have yet to see a high profile retired 'outside' player come to my club for a 3 year stint and £10K on the side. Clubs can always manage to get through the tough times with their own good members.
If as a association we ignore payments that drain club funds then as I have said we will be paying for outside minor managers and maybe even club committees in the near future and further hinder clubs financial position.
When people start to get financial reward for performance then they start to put themselves first at the expense of the organisation they are working for.

Finally other posters who contribute to this board may disagee  with my perspectives but sometimes having conservative, old-fashioned and nostalgic views are a safeguard against the rapid change in GAA ethics that have stood us well to date.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2021, 01:26:02 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 17, 2021, 08:59:10 PM
As you may have seen I'm not a fan of paying coaches either but acknowledge that mileage and valid expenses go with the territory these days.
I understand that managing 30 adults would be difficult but so are positions such as club Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary.

I have yet to see a high profile retired 'outside' player come to my club for a 3 year stint and £10K on the side. Clubs can always manage to get through the tough times with their own good members.
If as a association we ignore payments that drain club funds then as I have said we will be paying for outside minor managers and maybe even club committees in the near future and further hinder clubs financial position.
When people start to get financial reward for performance then they start to put themselves first at the expense of the organisation they are working for.

Finally other posters who contribute to this board may disagee  with my perspectives but sometimes having conservative, old-fashioned and nostalgic views are a safeguard against the rapid change in GAA ethics that have stood us well to date.

My own club couldn't get a manager internally a few years ago, we went outside. What was our alternative? Not enter the leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Your prob left with no option PJ but it should only be a short term solution. Long term clubs should be coaching and encouraging existing club vols to step up to that senior plate otherwise clubs will be stuck in the same cycle each year of saying 'we have no one to take it, we will have to pay someone'.

Long term that £10k should be invested back into the club for coaches, kids etc. Not invested into your senior team for a short term gain for that person to leave potentially after one season.

Getting out of that continuous cycle of paying outsiders whilst relying on vols to coach your future senior player is so important. Put some faith in your own club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Your prob left with no option PJ but it should only be a short term solution. Long term clubs should be coaching and encouraging existing club vols to step up to that senior plate otherwise clubs will be stuck in the same cycle each year of saying 'we have no one to take it, we will have to pay someone'.

Long term that £10k should be invested back into the club for coaches, kids etc. Not invested into your senior team for a short term gain for that person to leave potentially after one season.

Getting out of that continuous cycle of paying outsiders whilst relying on vols to coach your future senior player is so important. Put some faith in your own club.

All jobs are generally advertised after they have been asked within the club, if no one will take the team then usually it would be back with the Com  to sort out, that's when a senior player will be asked to step in while they arrange a manager, that never happens and the senior player is left looking after the team and playing.....

Its harder than people think. If there are ones within the club that think clubs shouldn't have to to fork out, then step up to the plate, instead of the bitching behind peoples backs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 18, 2021, 09:25:30 AM
of course it is, its very hard to keep going each year relying on vols. We have had years where no one wanted the senior football, senior camogie, minor hurling, minor football etc. We have struggled to fill those voids and its see fellas and girls take jobs on that they necessarily didn't want to do but felt compelled to do.

But its taken development committees for each codes to be formed to sort that problem out if it arose. They can source out potential coaches to step into voids and also get some more experienced along with someone new to give them a hand, guide them along and give that new coach the confidence going forward. They generally tend to stay on when they know that backing is there.

Theres always people who others think shouldnt be taking a post but as you say MR2 they are the ones who wont step up to take that post. they are happier to bitch about them behind their backs than get out 4 nights a week to train the team, travel to matches and look after the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 09:35:47 AM
For me, I found it no different looking after the under 12's, South Antrim or senior teams, there is a degree of work and self expectation required.

I've looked after many a team within the club, and filled plenty of roles but its generally the same faces, popular teams have never any issues getting a manager to look after them, if there potential then they are all over it the 'in between' team that's maybe struggling is the hardest position to fill but the most important one..

I'm all for a set of managers, generally that have kids involved, to take a team from under 10 right through to minor under 21, they are familiar with the players and have respect from them, usually...

I wouldn't mind getting back into it again at juvenile, having taken the reserves last year it was a bitta craic, but when you are out of the loop you don't know a lot of these youngsters coming through.. Then at the same time I'm like, don I need the hassle lol! ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2021, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2021, 01:26:02 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 17, 2021, 08:59:10 PM
As you may have seen I'm not a fan of paying coaches either but acknowledge that mileage and valid expenses go with the territory these days.
I understand that managing 30 adults would be difficult but so are positions such as club Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary.

I have yet to see a high profile retired 'outside' player come to my club for a 3 year stint and £10K on the side. Clubs can always manage to get through the tough times with their own good members.
If as a association we ignore payments that drain club funds then as I have said we will be paying for outside minor managers and maybe even club committees in the near future and further hinder clubs financial position.
When people start to get financial reward for performance then they start to put themselves first at the expense of the organisation they are working for.

Finally other posters who contribute to this board may disagee  with my perspectives but sometimes having conservative, old-fashioned and nostalgic views are a safeguard against the rapid change in GAA ethics that have stood us well to date.

My own club couldn't get a manager internally a few years ago, we went outside. What was our alternative? Not enter the leagues?
If there Wasnt option of going outside? a way would be found and all the coacheS who are on circuit COuld go back to their vlubs and be available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 18, 2021, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Your prob left with no option PJ but it should only be a short term solution. Long term clubs should be coaching and encouraging existing club vols to step up to that senior plate otherwise clubs will be stuck in the same cycle each year of saying 'we have no one to take it, we will have to pay someone'.

Long term that £10k should be invested back into the club for coaches, kids etc. Not invested into your senior team for a short term gain for that person to leave potentially after one season.

Getting out of that continuous cycle of paying outsiders whilst relying on vols to coach your future senior player is so important. Put some faith in your own club.

All jobs are generally advertised after they have been asked within the club, if no one will take the team then usually it would be back with the Com  to sort out, that's when a senior player will be asked to step in while they arrange a manager, that never happens and the senior player is left looking after the team and playing.....

Its harder than people think. If there are ones within the club that think clubs shouldn't have to to fork out, then step up to the plate, instead of the bitching behind peoples backs!
Poor MR2, upset by bitches on a discussion board who share their views.  It's blue Monday after all.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
2 Our Fathers, 6 Hail Mary's and an act of contrition for the guilty
We've all stepped up to the plate in the past and will play our parts again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 18, 2021, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Your prob left with no option PJ but it should only be a short term solution. Long term clubs should be coaching and encouraging existing club vols to step up to that senior plate otherwise clubs will be stuck in the same cycle each year of saying 'we have no one to take it, we will have to pay someone'.

Long term that £10k should be invested back into the club for coaches, kids etc. Not invested into your senior team for a short term gain for that person to leave potentially after one season.

Getting out of that continuous cycle of paying outsiders whilst relying on vols to coach your future senior player is so important. Put some faith in your own club.

All jobs are generally advertised after they have been asked within the club, if no one will take the team then usually it would be back with the Com  to sort out, that's when a senior player will be asked to step in while they arrange a manager, that never happens and the senior player is left looking after the team and playing.....

Its harder than people think. If there are ones within the club that think clubs shouldn't have to to fork out, then step up to the plate, instead of the bitching behind peoples backs!
Poor MR2, upset by bitches on a discussion board who share their views.  It's blue Monday after all.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
2 Our Fathers, 6 Hail Mary's and an act of contrition for the guilty
We've all stepped up to the plate in the past and will play our parts again.

If you read the post, its club bitches I'm talking about, not the ones on here..

You talk a lot about the rights and wrongs of the way clubs go about things, but no depth to it other than no clubs should be paying managers physios coaches S&C.... Unfortunately  that horse has bolted and trying to get that genie back in the bottle will be some ask going forward.

So with that in mind, what is your solution to the questions presented?

How do you fill a position within the club that no one wants?

Should people be out of pocket when taking a team? 

How do we encourage these coaches to step up to the plate and take the team?

Be interesting to hear how your club has done this over the years, without spending money and keeping management positions for clubmen/women only
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 18, 2021, 12:30:21 PM
Just to add my tuppence worth... Ideally it would all be in house and voluntary but locals generally don't want the flak / time involved in managing a senior team. Generally if someone local does fancy it (as they do every so often) they would be given the role in a heartbeat over anyone outside.
I am not against paying managers, serious time involved if doing it properly. Could Antrim look at this method as a way of improving the standard of manager they have for their underage teams. Why not have better candidates with a record of success at other levels managing our youth rather than the first person who puts their hand up. Nothing against current Antrim underage managers not sure who they are but I have heard people complain about the standard of coaching in recent years. The U14s - U17s are the players we will be depending on for the next 15 years!! Kevin Brady (Antrim legend) for example has won Macrory Cups as a coach manager. Why could he not be our u15, U17 or U20 manager instead of being coach for the Loup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 18, 2021, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 18, 2021, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Your prob left with no option PJ but it should only be a short term solution. Long term clubs should be coaching and encouraging existing club vols to step up to that senior plate otherwise clubs will be stuck in the same cycle each year of saying 'we have no one to take it, we will have to pay someone'.

Long term that £10k should be invested back into the club for coaches, kids etc. Not invested into your senior team for a short term gain for that person to leave potentially after one season.

Getting out of that continuous cycle of paying outsiders whilst relying on vols to coach your future senior player is so important. Put some faith in your own club.

All jobs are generally advertised after they have been asked within the club, if no one will take the team then usually it would be back with the Com  to sort out, that's when a senior player will be asked to step in while they arrange a manager, that never happens and the senior player is left looking after the team and playing.....

Its harder than people think. If there are ones within the club that think clubs shouldn't have to to fork out, then step up to the plate, instead of the bitching behind peoples backs!
Poor MR2, upset by bitches on a discussion board who share their views.  It's blue Monday after all.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
2 Our Fathers, 6 Hail Mary's and an act of contrition for the guilty
We've all stepped up to the plate in the past and will play our parts again.

If you read the post, its club bitches I'm talking about, not the ones on here..

You talk a lot about the rights and wrongs of the way clubs go about things, but no depth to it other than no clubs should be paying managers physios coaches S&C.... Unfortunately  that horse has bolted and trying to get that genie back in the bottle will be some ask going forward.

So with that in mind, what is your solution to the questions presented?

How do you fill a position within the club that no one wants?

Should people be out of pocket when taking a team? 

How do we encourage these coaches to step up to the plate and take the team?

Be interesting to hear how your club has done this over the years, without spending money and keeping management positions for clubmen/women only
MR2, please read posts before commenting so that you understand the posts raised.
Then answer the questions asked not the questions you would like to answer

I have never stated that clubs should not be paying managers physios coaches S&C....just managers especially when there are decent resources within each club.
You have asked the following:

So with that in mind, what is your solution to the questions   

How do you fill a position within the club that no one wants?
Coach and encourage as always

Should people be out of pocket when taking a team?
No

How do we encourage these coaches to step up to the plate and take the team?
Development plan like most clubs have for underage coaches and an honest commitment to support coach 100%

Be interesting to hear how your club has done this over the years, without spending money and keeping management positions for clubmen/women only
My club is a sinner also like many others and we have paid and no doubt will continue to pay in the short term.

I have only said that I am against paying managers and I object at every AGM and I am vocal at other  meetings with similar content.
I'm would not see myself as a suitable candidate for senior manager and doubt others would see me as a solution but I and others have rallied in behind other members as required over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on January 18, 2021, 11:48:55 PM
There are two aspects to this. The first one Is related to resources for good management within your club. If you don't have it you need to look elsewhere. if you do you should encourage  it as much as you can.

The second point relates to actual standards and if you have the people within the club who can coach your senior team to the standards that both your club, and of equal importance, your county need. For example an Antrim Division I team should be aiming for a higher standard than our current Division I tankard, so that both club and county continually raise standards to compete at a consistently higher standard.

We should be aiming for the best standards in Ulster for club football and if that means bringing in an external coach to bring us to that level Then so be it.

This is one piece of the jigsaw if we want Antrim club standard to improve in 20~30years time to improve our standing in Ulster.

Please note that Burren brought in Jackie McManus in the 80's. That's right, one of the greatest club teams ever was bring in outside management from Antrim....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 19, 2021, 09:54:34 AM
Its an interesting debate here and one that has many rights and wrongs, depending on your own point of view.

How do you feel that its worked out for your own club KCSC? Your footballers have been paying for a manager for a number of years now since Micky Moran was it? correct me if im wrong here.

Do you feel that bringing in paid managers over this period of time has brought the senior team on or do you think otherwise? Its interesting to hear that side of things from clubs who bring managers in rather than source your own club. Since they started paying managers should, in that passing time, the club not of been investing as well in coaches to take that mantel on down the line. Or has that not been done at all?

Im not having a go at your club by the way, I do want to understand the long term plan of a club that pays managers year on end and if theres an end goal other than hope that they bring success (by using the unpaid underage coaches hard work to develop the kids)

We dont pay managers and i would oppose it in any shape if our senior hurlers or footballers or camogier managements were paid. Im in one of these set ups and have been for the past 7 years now.

I dont want paid. I dont go to the pitch for training and to matches twice a week for money. Ive been offered money to take other teams and turned it down as i couldnt care less about another club and how they do. I dont care about the development of their minors or U14's but i do care very much about our own players and wanting to see them do well and its why i spend countless hours doing it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 18, 2021, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 18, 2021, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2021, 09:07:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
Your prob left with no option PJ but it should only be a short term solution. Long term clubs should be coaching and encouraging existing club vols to step up to that senior plate otherwise clubs will be stuck in the same cycle each year of saying 'we have no one to take it, we will have to pay someone'.

Long term that £10k should be invested back into the club for coaches, kids etc. Not invested into your senior team for a short term gain for that person to leave potentially after one season.

Getting out of that continuous cycle of paying outsiders whilst relying on vols to coach your future senior player is so important. Put some faith in your own club.

All jobs are generally advertised after they have been asked within the club, if no one will take the team then usually it would be back with the Com  to sort out, that's when a senior player will be asked to step in while they arrange a manager, that never happens and the senior player is left looking after the team and playing.....

Its harder than people think. If there are ones within the club that think clubs shouldn't have to to fork out, then step up to the plate, instead of the bitching behind peoples backs!
Poor MR2, upset by bitches on a discussion board who share their views.  It's blue Monday after all.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
2 Our Fathers, 6 Hail Mary's and an act of contrition for the guilty
We've all stepped up to the plate in the past and will play our parts again.

If you read the post, its club bitches I'm talking about, not the ones on here..

You talk a lot about the rights and wrongs of the way clubs go about things, but no depth to it other than no clubs should be paying managers physios coaches S&C.... Unfortunately  that horse has bolted and trying to get that genie back in the bottle will be some ask going forward.

So with that in mind, what is your solution to the questions presented?

How do you fill a position within the club that no one wants?

Should people be out of pocket when taking a team? 

How do we encourage these coaches to step up to the plate and take the team?

Be interesting to hear how your club has done this over the years, without spending money and keeping management positions for clubmen/women only
MR2, please read posts before commenting so that you understand the posts raised.
Then answer the questions asked not the questions you would like to answer

I have never stated that clubs should not be paying managers physios coaches S&C....just managers especially when there are decent resources within each club.
You have asked the following:

So with that in mind, what is your solution to the questions   

How do you fill a position within the club that no one wants?
Coach and encourage as always

Should people be out of pocket when taking a team?
No

How do we encourage these coaches to step up to the plate and take the team?
Development plan like most clubs have for underage coaches and an honest commitment to support coach 100%

Be interesting to hear how your club has done this over the years, without spending money and keeping management positions for clubmen/women only
My club is a sinner also like many others and we have paid and no doubt will continue to pay in the short term.

I have only said that I am against paying managers and I object at every AGM and I am vocal at other  meetings with similar content.
I'm would not see myself as a suitable candidate for senior manager and doubt others would see me as a solution but I and others have rallied in behind other members as required over the years.


How do you fill a position within the club that no one wants?
Coach and encourage as always: When that doesn't happen, and there is no one putting their hand up, what's the best solution? This does happen

Should people be out of pocket when taking a team?
No: That's my view on it also, I'm not for paying managers a sum of money either, expenses yes...

How do we encourage these coaches to step up to the plate and take the team?
Development plan like most clubs have for underage coaches and an honest commitment to support coach 100%: Again back to the first question, the senior team can be too much for a underage coach to take on when stepping into a senior changing room, some people have it naturally, others struggle, and with all the support of others it may not turn out the best for the club.


As for my club we have an a huge depth of experience within the club to take hopefully produce managers of the future, have they taken on coaching badges at all? I'm not sure, I think all coaches need to go down that route and incorporate this into the style the club has always tried to play with.

In the past we have been lucky with past players as managers, Culbert, who started the revolution, and (may favourite) John Rafferty, then Lenny got us over the line.. We have had 'Others' that have been with us and been successful but home grown is best financially for the club, we wouldn't have a lot of money anyways, so I'm not entirely sure how it would be paid for...

But yes we would be guilty of 'paying' managers in the past and certainly encouraging coaches from outside, I still believe that's important, Its a different voice in the changing rooms and a different eye on styles of play.

As for not seeing yourself as a manager, don't short change yourself or your potential, fail to prepare, prepare to fail is the best advice anyone can take. Nothing is smooth but if you have a plan and more importantly the players buy into it, then you'll get the maximum out of them, sure that's all you can ask for.

Been offered a few manager roles in the past, would find it very strange to take a different team tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
So Dunsilly, i think, wanted everone to stay quiet on the board about the gaelfast chief leaving and now the TOR chairperson has left too and no mentioned of replacements - still All happy to keep heads in sand and pretend all is rosy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
So Dunsilly, i think, wanted everone to stay quiet on the board about the gaelfast chief leaving and now the TOR chairperson has left too and no mentioned of replacements - still All happy to keep heads in sand and pretend all is rosy?

I think it was mentioned that the Gaelfast chief had stepped down.. there was a right few posts on it

Now the Chairperson has stepped down? We can only talk about it if we know, do tell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 19, 2021, 03:42:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
So Dunsilly, i think, wanted everyone to stay quiet on the board about the gaelfast chief leaving and now the TOR chairperson has left too and no mentioned of replacements - still All happy to keep heads in sand and pretend all is rosy?

Your still sore at me calling you a muppet ;D  I take that back 8)
If you can find anywhere on this board where I said I wanted this kept quiet, find it and put it up. Trust me you will spent alot of time looking for it to realise your wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 03:58:22 PM
BBC radio ulster last night interView. Must have got the wrong poster - sorry! and ceasefire!
the county needs to come ouT and make a statement about the vacanCies - we deserve better in Antirm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 19, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
So Dunsilly, i think, wanted everone to stay quiet on the board about the gaelfast chief leaving and now the TOR chairperson has left too and no mentioned of replacements - still All happy to keep heads in sand and pretend all is rosy?

I think it was mentioned that the Gaelfast chief had stepped down.. there was a right few posts on it

Now the Chairperson has stepped down? We can only talk about it if we know, do tell
Gaelfast twitter has recent post with a link to BBC. GAA section is from 40 minutes in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 19, 2021, 05:41:42 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 19, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
So Dunsilly, i think, wanted everone to stay quiet on the board about the gaelfast chief leaving and now the TOR chairperson has left too and no mentioned of replacements - still All happy to keep heads in sand and pretend all is rosy?

I think it was mentioned that the Gaelfast chief had stepped down.. there was a right few posts on it

Now the Chairperson has stepped down? We can only talk about it if we know, do tell

Gaelfast twitter has recent post with a link to BBC. GAA section is from 40 minutes in.
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 12, 2021, 07:47:17 AM
Pity mainstream politics wouldn't stay out of local Gaa it doesn't mix, wishing PD every success in his new role at UU.


Well i did say!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Terry spoke very well and shows how hard Gaelfast is going to be...

The difficulty of replacing PD was highlighted very well by Terry, and to think people were questioning his credibility

Terry also mentioned that Gaelfast is actually only going 8 months full pelt once all the appointments were in place..

The clock is ticking so hopefully there is someone on board soon.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Terry spoke very well and shows how hard Gaelfast is going to be...

The difficulty of replacing PD was highlighted very well by Terry, and to think people were questioning his credibility

Terry also mentioned that Gaelfast is actually only going 8 months full pelt once all the appointments were in place..

The clock is ticking so hopefully there is someone on board soon.
interviewer didn't Ask why the 2 left just weeks aparT. Not too much to Asj for Antrim Gaels to know what's going on .m
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Terry spoke very well and shows how hard Gaelfast is going to be...

The difficulty of replacing PD was highlighted very well by Terry, and to think people were questioning his credibility

Terry also mentioned that Gaelfast is actually only going 8 months full pelt once all the appointments were in place..

The clock is ticking so hopefully there is someone on board soon.
interviewer didn't Ask why the 2 left just weeks aparT. Not too much to Asj for Antrim Gaels to know what's going on .m

Both lads are very approachable, next time you bump into them I'm sure they'll let you know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2021, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Terry spoke very well and shows how hard Gaelfast is going to be...

The difficulty of replacing PD was highlighted very well by Terry, and to think people were questioning his credibility

Terry also mentioned that Gaelfast is actually only going 8 months full pelt once all the appointments were in place..

The clock is ticking so hopefully there is someone on board soon.
interviewer didn't Ask why the 2 left just weeks aparT. Not too much to Asj for Antrim Gaels to know what's going on .m

Both lads are very approachable, next time you bump into them I'm sure they'll let you know
very helpful thankS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2021, 03:10:35 AM
4000 participants and 77 schools in the primary sector alone. Things going great pre Covid. Challenge now is to make sure it gets back on tracks when things return to normal. Money ringfenced to make that happen.TOR and PD both good Antrim gaels, Im sure their assistance will be quietly available to try to make personnel changes as seemless as possible.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 20, 2021, 06:31:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 20, 2021, 03:10:35 AM
4000 participants and 77 schools in the primary sector alone. Things going great pre Covid. Challenge now is to make sure it gets back on tracks when things return to normal. Money ringfenced to make that happen.TOR and PD both good Antrim gaels, Im sure their assistance will be quietly available to try to make personnel changes as seemless as possible.



Thats well and good bannside and the facts are the facts and can look impressive. There is a massive elephant now in the room and in Antrim Gaa, that doesn't sit comfortably with a lot of gaels, BGM is pushing a particular point and TBF members on the board probably know why the lads left in the manner that they did, this is better than strictly with the amount of dancing and gaslighting thats going on around the whole Gaelfast Topic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 20, 2021, 06:40:48 AM
I see the boxer Paddy Barnes done a zoom session with St Endas Glengormley u13s. They have over 60 u13s it said. That's unbelievable numbers. How do you even manage that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 20, 2021, 06:51:53 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 20, 2021, 06:40:48 AM
I see the boxer Paddy Barnes done a zoom session with St Endas Glengormley u13s. They have over 60 u13s it said. That's unbelievable numbers. How do you even manage that!

You may have cracked the Gaelfast issue WC, every Belfast club should build a Bunscoil onto its clubhouse problem solved !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on January 20, 2021, 08:25:20 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 20, 2021, 06:40:48 AM
I see the boxer Paddy Barnes done a zoom session with St Endas Glengormley u13s. They have over 60 u13s it said. That's unbelievable numbers. How do you even manage that!

Split Glengormley in 2!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2021, 09:05:57 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 20, 2021, 06:40:48 AM
I see the boxer Paddy Barnes done a zoom session with St Endas Glengormley u13s. They have over 60 u13s it said. That's unbelievable numbers. How do you even manage that!

Cousin of mine moved to Belfast from Tyrone as hes a doctor and has had his kids at St Endas. Loves the club and speaks very highly of how well looked after the kids are. Hes not from a GAA back ground at all but says that his young lads love going to training and matches with the Club

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2021, 09:42:45 AM
Probably similar demographic to Carryduff. Big, more affordable, commuter area for Belfast.They have now got huge numbers too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 20, 2021, 10:55:54 AM
Massive numbers. Gaelfast not needed in that area obviously. They should focus on Polegalss, Antrim town, Lisburn and those other places with big populations and struggling to get 15 players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2021, 11:28:19 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 20, 2021, 10:55:54 AM
Massive numbers. Gaelfast not needed in that area obviously. They should focus on Polegalss, Antrim town, Lisburn and those other places with big populations and struggling to get 15 players.

Agreed. getting into the primary schools in those places is vital to keeping the games going.

Its easy for places like ourselves, Loughgiel etc to keep the interest going. Its part and parcel of the community and our way of life and dont need that help but areas like Antrim, Lisburn etc do need to get the help as theres a massive area of players that could get involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 20, 2021, 01:37:53 PM
St.Patricks, Lisburn have begun to turn the corner with numbers, due to demographically changes. At senior level, they have a S A reserve team fielding for the past two years. 5 of U21s played senior football, last year.  Obviously won JFC in 2019. Senior Ladies showing incremental improvement. At underage they went through a sticky patch with numbers but numbers growing steadily, upto U12/13 once again, fielding stand alone teams.
Club is well organised for continued growth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 20, 2021, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: delgany on January 20, 2021, 01:37:53 PM
St.Patricks, Lisburn have begun to turn the corner with numbers, due to demographically changes. At senior level, they have a S A reserve team fielding for the past two years. 5 of U21s played senior football, last year.  Obviously won JFC in 2019. Senior Ladies showing incremental improvement. At underage they went through a sticky patch with numbers but numbers growing steadily, upto U12/13 once again, fielding stand alone teams.
Club is well organised for continued growth.

Hopefully, they can get some more help from Gaelfast and really start pushing on. There are 3 large Catholic primary schools in Lisburn that I know of and there is massive potential for big numbers of children playing GAA. Antrim is the same with well over 1000 chidden in their 2 main primary schools but they struggle for numbers. It's the same couple of men doing the work in those clubs. They need help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 20, 2021, 03:17:45 PM
All great suggestions lads, however that Elephant is still in the room, is Gaellfast now going to be used as the Trojan Horse that inspires the " The Cultural Renaissance " that Pearse & Plunkett etc kicked off all those years ago? Bannside thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2021, 08:37:01 PM
There is no doubt one of the upsides of such high participation numbers outlined by TR in the interview is the anticipated cultural renaissance coming down the tracks.

Paddy O Hara in his report into Antrim Football back around 1990 highlighted the absolute necessity to kick start GAA in South Belfast, North Belfast, Lisburn, Twinbrook/Poleglass and Antrim town. All massive catchment areas either doing nothing at all or massively underachieving.

Of these, St Brigids and St Endas are flourishing. The others still have work to do. (A massive plus is the Lower Falls area with Davitts getting its house in order).

No matter what priorities Gaelfast has laid down, there will be diffetences of opinion. Take quality over quantity just as one example. Would 10 coaches be better giving 25 schools fifteen hours a week each....10 x 25 x 15 equals 3750 man hours per week) or give 77 schools x 10 coaches just over 4 hours a week each. I dont know the answer, just asking a question. Which policy has a better chance of producing the next Kevin Niblock or Brian Fenton.

And if you were to develop that thought, would it merit focussing this energy and committment in the underdeveloped areas as a priority.

Whilst Gaelfast is all about developing an interest and love of our games, ultimately its success or otherwise will be measured in how our county minors under 20s and seniors are performing in 10 - 12 years. And that will not happen unless there is an ambitious joined up plan for post primary schools, and coordinating the natural progression of the potential senior county players through an additional 6 or 8 year programme (with a renewed interest in school / proper development squad activity or lack of).

As a county we do face into a challenge. If there were flaws in the system, they need to be highlighted, addressed and corrected. Though not necessarily on this forum for the world to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 20, 2021, 09:18:22 PM
There's just under 100 PS and 30 post primary schools in the maintained sector in Antrim, so gaelfast can focus on quality.
The big issue to tackle is transferring that investment in schools into the local club, that takes a long term investment of people connecting the club and school, in some areas that is not an issue,  like Dunloy for example. Establishing a Gaelic games culture in e.g poleglass/ twinbrook/ lisburn takes a very sustained amount of planning, organisation and commitment. It takes at least 3 generations to get to the level of Carryduff /St.Endas are good examples.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on January 20, 2021, 09:51:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 19, 2021, 09:54:34 AM
Its an interesting debate here and one that has many rights and wrongs, depending on your own point of view.

How do you feel that its worked out for your own club KCSC? Your footballers have been paying for a manager for a number of years now since Micky Moran was it? correct me if im wrong here.

Do you feel that bringing in paid managers over this period of time has brought the senior team on or do you think otherwise? Its interesting to hear that side of things from clubs who bring managers in rather than source your own club. Since they started paying managers should, in that passing time, the club not of been investing as well in coaches to take that mantel on down the line. Or has that not been done at all?

Im not having a go at your club by the way, I do want to understand the long term plan of a club that pays managers year on end and if theres an end goal other than hope that they bring success (by using the unpaid underage coaches hard work to develop the kids)

We dont pay managers and i would oppose it in any shape if our senior hurlers or footballers or camogier managements were paid. Im in one of these set ups and have been for the past 7 years now.

I dont want paid. I dont go to the pitch for training and to matches twice a week for money. Ive been offered money to take other teams and turned it down as i couldnt care less about another club and how they do. I dont care about the development of their minors or U14's but i do care very much about our own players and wanting to see them do well and its why i spend countless hours doing it.

I think it has worked TBH. My father and uncles have championship medals, and they always said during the wilderness years that the club doesn't need to be winning championships every year, the minimum standard is that they are really competing for championships and winning a few. To that end we are now competing at the highest level and are starting to win Div 1's and O'Cahan Cups. Much better than before.

The biggest impact to the club IMO was Sean McGettigan.

If we look back 20 years ago, Creggan were a mid table div 2 team, picked up a couple of intermediate championships, with a lot of young talent coming through, but could not get out of Div 2. Our internal managers were really committed but we weren't getting the best out of the team.

We brought Sean in and he really changed the standards within the club. Simple things like moving training from Tues - Thur - Sunday afternoon  to Tues - Friday, early Sunday morning training. Really forced the young ones to make the decision - Drink or football. Now we have a really strong culture towards, fitness, training and playing. That change IMO, only happened due to the outside voice.

Sean changed the system of training, a lot more with the ball in the fitness training and our preparation for games etc improved.

Bringing Micky Moran in was not a case of Creggan breaking the bank to get over the line. Micky was recovering from a very nasty public divorce from the Mayo county  and the press were hounding him. We needed someone in and he wanted a lower profile club to get away from the press but still coach.

He is married to Rita (McAteer) and he spends some time in Creggan and the arrangement was perfect. He further improved the standards and we started competing at the business end of the championship in semi finals etc.

I could go on but the outside managers have definitely improved the club, and even though we haven't won the big one, we are seriously challenging to win it.

The knock-on effect that this has had in the clubs is also important. Our players now have expectations in regards to how training should be run and what it takes to be successful. This has influenced the hurling team as well, as the dual players would not be happy working hard in football and pissing about in hurling. It is no coincidence that the hurlers improved during this time. talent was there but standards improved too.

Last point, when every manager comes in, the juvenile coaches would spend time watching the coaching sessions and taking note of approaches etc and then the approach, would start flowing into the underage coaching sessions. So the outside managers helps the development of underage coaches.

Our club have a number of good coaches, but they seem to enjoy working with the youth. Sean McAuley is a good example. Played for Maghera, Queens and Antrim and would have been influenced by some of the best coaches around Ulster. Sean has a passion working with underaged teams and doesn't enjoy working with seniors as much.

The club puts a lot of effort in making sure the underage coaching structures are in place, the same focus as the seniors. So all in all it works well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2021, 09:54:54 PM
Sorry Delgany I dont think sending coaches into 100 schools a week represents quality. I think that represents the exact opposite of quality!

Some clubs have established excellent links with their local primary school, indeed Dunloy are a shining example of what can be done. And there are a dozen other clubs who dont need to rely on Gaelfast (although why not enjoy it when its available). It must be said the majority of the clubs I have in mind are SW or NA.

There are dozens of schools with no natural link to a club. Should Gaelfast not prioritise these schools and attempt to generate Gaelic games and culture in places it is not traditionally evident?

Just probing...Im not certain myself what the best policy would be!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 20, 2021, 10:00:28 PM
I didn't mean that they would visit 100 schools a week, you mentioned 77 schools x 4 hours a week , what I meant was that with only 100 schools, all over the county they could spend quality time developing the structures - my poor sentence !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2021, 10:03:22 PM
Kickhams Big Sean learned his craft at Garron Tower lol before he was poached by St Pats.

Sean Mc Gettigan an Antrim legend, his fabled story about fundraising for the original Casement Park needs to be told as an inspiration of what one man can achieve when he knuckles down to it. Hugh a chip off the old block lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on January 21, 2021, 02:33:52 AM
I obviously dropped in the Sean  ref to see who was reading my post ;D ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 21, 2021, 11:27:48 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 20, 2021, 08:37:01 PM
There is no doubt one of the upsides of such high participation numbers outlined by TR in the interview is the anticipated cultural renaissance coming down the tracks.

Paddy O Hara in his report into Antrim Football back around 1990 highlighted the absolute necessity to kick start GAA in South Belfast, North Belfast, Lisburn, Twinbrook/Poleglass and Antrim town. All massive catchment areas either doing nothing at all or massively underachieving.

Of these, St Brigids and St Endas are flourishing. The others still have work to do. (A massive plus is the Lower Falls area with Davitts getting its house in order).

No matter what priorities Gaelfast has laid down, there will be diffetences of opinion. Take quality over quantity just as one example. Would 10 coaches be better giving 25 schools fifteen hours a week each....10 x 25 x 15 equals 3750 man hours per week) or give 77 schools x 10 coaches just over 4 hours a week each. I dont know the answer, just asking a question. Which policy has a better chance of producing the next Kevin Niblock or Brian Fenton.

And if you were to develop that thought, would it merit focussing this energy and committment in the underdeveloped areas as a priority.

Whilst Gaelfast is all about developing an interest and love of our games, ultimately its success or otherwise will be measured in how our county minors under 20s and seniors are performing in 10 - 12 years. And that will not happen unless there is an ambitious joined up plan for post primary schools, and coordinating the natural progression of the potential senior county players through an additional 6 or 8 year programme (with a renewed interest in school / proper development squad activity or lack of).

As a county we do face into a challenge. If there were flaws in the system, they need to be highlighted, addressed and corrected. Though not necessarily on this forum for the world to see.

Gaelfast needs to be doing more than going into schools a few hours a week to take some teacher's PE classes for them. They need to be targeting those schools in areas that have little to no GAA culture. They need to be coaching all the classes in the schools and arranging leagues for those emerging schools and give the children games to play. There is no point in those schools playing against established GAA schools as they will be completely embarrassed. I have taught in schools and children didn't even know what gaelic football goalposts looked like. Two children out of 500 had played GAA before and it was only because their uncle brought them to Creggan Cul camps.

It is like starting from scratch and it will take a lot more than Gaelfast going in for coaching a few hours a week. Going into to schools to coach is no different to what the Ulster council coaches were doing. In school and do a few hours of PE and then see you next week again. Playing tournaments and games is what children want to do. Arranging leagues and providing transport for the children is the only way you'll get children interested in playing. In a lot of these schools the teachers and principals couldn't care less either and they certainly won't pay for buses to children to go to a GAA tournament.  Creating a link with the local clubs then is the next step so that they're transferring this new sport that they play in school to a sport they play outside of school as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2021, 11:36:48 AM
What is the setup for games at school level, primary level that is?

We had, back in the day the like of the Raffo cup and league games, if memory serves me right.

Is there regular competitions/tournaments/training/league games going on? I'd like to think that its a lot more than it was in my day

I know at Secondary level it can get more intense, more so in the the grammar schools.. Seems to be more choice now though, I never went to a school that played soccer so it was hurling and football, and our teachers were the only ones that took these teams.

We'd a dedicated teacher for the hurling and he took the teams to many finals over the years, I remember as a primary 7 kid heading to Athlone for an All Ireland semi final, my eldest brother was on the team, sticks out in my memory, a Galway team, hammered us in the end though and if I can remember right we had a lot of good hurlers too!!

Do those teachers not exist anymore or do they have so much more on their plate that its difficult to do both?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 21, 2021, 01:08:23 PM
League fixtures, indoor 5 a side, championship games take place in schools affiliated to Cumann na Bunscoil in football & hurling.
There are 4 or 5 graded leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Teaching has changed. Its no longer 9 to 3.30pm. Any teachers I know complain about being up half the night with paperwork, marking tests or filling in forms. The gaa teacher who used to give up 10 hours a week to stay behind after school three days a week are like hens teeth. There arnt too many Paul Buchanans about any more! We just didnt appreciate them enough at the time, probably took their volunteer ethos for granted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on January 21, 2021, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Teaching has changed. Its no longer 9 to 3.30pm. Any teachers I know complain about being up half the night with paperwork, marking tests or filling in forms. The gaa teacher who used to give up 10 hours a week to stay behind after school three days a week are like hens teeth. There arnt too many Paul Buchanans about any more! We just didnt appreciate them enough at the time, probably took their volunteer ethos for granted.

Yeah you hear that a lot from them, especially these days. It's nonsense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 21, 2021, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Teaching has changed. Its no longer 9 to 3.30pm. Any teachers I know complain about being up half the night with paperwork, marking tests or filling in forms. The gaa teacher who used to give up 10 hours a week to stay behind after school three days a week are like hens teeth. There arnt too many Paul Buchanans about any more! We just didnt appreciate them enough at the time, probably took their volunteer ethos for granted.

Secondary schools certainly have the staff to manage multiple teams, the facilities to  support and the financial resources to support player development. Some of the Grammar schools employ games dev officers specifically for GAA

Primary schools are struggling to employ Male teachers as a starting point ( acknowledging that female staff do step up ) . Many don't have the resources and funding to spend on sport, due to the inadequate funding from NI EXec .....but that is another saga !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 21, 2021, 06:37:25 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 21, 2021, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Teaching has changed. Its no longer 9 to 3.30pm. Any teachers I know complain about being up half the night with paperwork, marking tests or filling in forms. The gaa teacher who used to give up 10 hours a week to stay behind after school three days a week are like hens teeth. There arnt too many Paul Buchanans about any more! We just didnt appreciate them enough at the time, probably took their volunteer ethos for granted.

Yeah you hear that a lot from them, especially these days. It's nonsense

Another Educational Expert !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 21, 2021, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Teaching has changed. Its no longer 9 to 3.30pm. Any teachers I know complain about being up half the night with paperwork, marking tests or filling in forms. The gaa teacher who used to give up 10 hours a week to stay behind after school three days a week are like hens teeth. There arnt too many Paul Buchanans about any more! We just didnt appreciate them enough at the time, probably took their volunteer ethos for granted.

Jesus Christ don't be saying that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 21, 2021, 07:09:29 PM
Have I touched a raw nerve? Ive tackled a few school principals about the lack of gaa activity and have got the consistent reply that its far harder now to get teachers to commit to after school activities than it was ten or twenty years ago.

Is that not accurate? Im not talking about the hard core here (Delgany maybe that is you) but the ones you expect to take an involvement... but cant wait to jump in the car and get out the school gates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 21, 2021, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2021, 07:09:29 PM
Have I touched a raw nerve? Ive tackled a few school principals about the lack of gaa activity and have got the consistent reply that its far harder now to get teachers to commit to after school activities than it was ten or twenty years ago.

Is that not accurate? Im not talking about the hard core here (Delgany maybe that is you) but the ones you expect to take an involvement... but cant wait to jump in the car and get out the school gates.

Definitely changing times for staff in schools, in terms of prep work, marking etc.  Demographic issue  as well,  just 15% of prim sch staff are males- about 1300 for all six county prim schools. So 650 in maintained sector
It is hard to get a GAA mad teacher into every school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 21, 2021, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 21, 2021, 07:09:29 PM
Have I touched a raw nerve? Ive tackled a few school principals about the lack of gaa activity and have got the consistent reply that its far harder now to get teachers to commit to after school activities than it was ten or twenty years ago.

Is that not accurate? Im not talking about the hard core here (Delgany maybe that is you) but the ones you expect to take an involvement... but cant wait to jump in the car and get out the school gates.

No, what you are saying is true. But people don't like to think teachers are busier these days. Sure we only work half a year and finish at 3 each day.

I've found the Antrim primary school leagues to be poor enough. There wasn't enough games or tournaments for the children. I now teach near Lurgan and it is much better organised but they have a few more things going for them like the proximity of schools. The South West primary schools were so spread out that it was always a pain in the ass to organise a tournament without having to get buses etc, plus some schools were far bigger or better than some schools. Not much fun for children when they're getting completely tanked every tournament. Whereas there are nearly 20 primary schools close to Lurgan that the most you need to drive is 5/6 mile. Because of the amount of schools it is easy to then divide teams up into size of schools to try and make it a fair competition. I think we had 12-14 blitzes in our league and then there are a good few stand alone tournaments spread out over the year. No soccer tournaments, all just GAA.

Maybe this has started in Antrim recently but Armagh clubs all pay money for coaches to go into schools and coach twice a week. It's a big enough investment but it helps out the club with numbers are underage level. There just seems to be more interest and more GAA people working in the schools around Lurgan and that makes a massive difference. A lot of the schools in Belfast, Crumlin, Antrim and Lisburn couldn't care less about GAA and were more soccer orientated. Silly things like non uniform days shows the difference in interest when there's hardly a GAA top in sight and in my school and my nephew's school it's nothing but club and county gear on those days. No one is driving it in the schools. There are huge numbers in these areas and very few people playing Gaelic or hurling.

Gaelfast has a much bigger task on its hands than Dublin GAA ever had and the money they're getting isn't going to scratch the surface.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
im hearing JImmy Darragh from the Ulster Council is temporary chief of Gaelfast chief but still no county statement on matter - pontius pilate at play by county Board? i also hear the county noard interfering in Gaelfast was a reason for both departUres - Happy Friday Gaels!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 22, 2021, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
im hearing JImmy Darragh from the Ulster Council is temporary chief of Gaelfast chief but still no county statement on matter - pontius pilate at play by county Board? i also hear the county noard interfering in Gaelfast was a reason for both departUres - Happy Friday Gaels!

Been saying this the last few weeks BGM....Political etc etc etc no one seems to be willing to grasp the proverbial nettle!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on January 22, 2021, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
im hearing JImmy Darragh from the Ulster Council is temporary chief of Gaelfast chief but still no county statement on matter - pontius pilate at play by county Board? i also hear the county noard interfering in Gaelfast was a reason for both departUres - Happy Friday Gaels!

Who's the two departures?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 22, 2021, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 22, 2021, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
im hearing JImmy Darragh from the Ulster Council is temporary chief of Gaelfast chief but still no county statement on matter - pontius pilate at play by county Board? i also hear the county noard interfering in Gaelfast was a reason for both departUres - Happy Friday Gaels!

Been saying this the last few weeks BGM....Political etc etc etc no one seems to be willing to grasp the proverbial nettle!!!

I don't understand what is the point you're making. Can you please provide some details
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 22, 2021, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 22, 2021, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 22, 2021, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
im hearing JImmy Darragh from the Ulster Council is temporary chief of Gaelfast chief but still no county statement on matter - pontius pilate at play by county Board? i also hear the county noard interfering in Gaelfast was a reason for both departUres - Happy Friday Gaels!

Been saying this the last few weeks BGM....Political etc etc etc no one seems to be willing to grasp the proverbial nettle!!!

I don't understand what is the point you're making. Can you please provide some details



We are not following a Gaa and whats good for Antrim agenda anymore thats the point Im making, the rest I'll leave to your own due diligence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 22, 2021, 09:57:39 PM
The day of relying on teachers to do the clubs job are over. We in Antrim are late to the party realising it. A question for u, when is the last time a Dublin college won the Hogan? You would think with all those GPOs in clubs the schools would have the players. The answer is they have the players but the teachers won't put in the extra free time. Also most primary schools teachers are female and have no football coaching knowledge. The Dublin GPOs are club focussed lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 10:37:02 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2021, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
im hearing JImmy Darragh from the Ulster Council is temporary chief of Gaelfast chief but still no county statement on matter - pontius pilate at play by county Board? i also hear the county noard interfering in Gaelfast was a reason for both departUres - Happy Friday Gaels!

Who's the two departures?
the chieF donnelly and chairman o reilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 23, 2021, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.

Great Scalp to get, wish we could get him, not as far for a start for him to travel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.

Don't get them started ffs  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 23, 2021, 06:08:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.

Lovely wee ground sure what wouldnt attract him to there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 23, 2021, 06:38:32 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 23, 2021, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.

Great Scalp to get, wish we could get him, not as far for a start for him to travel.

Don't see it ass great scalp, has he coached/won anything of note? Or than being an excounty player with a Celtic cross medal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 06:39:41 PM
He'll soon get his eyes opened in crumlin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 07:00:20 PM
We've welcomed many an Armagh man into Antrim before...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 07:00:20 PM
We've welcomed many an Armagh man into Antrim before...

County Armagh or Armagh City?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 23, 2021, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 06:39:41 PM
He'll soon get his eyes opened in crumlin

Aye from the bottom of the slop !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on January 23, 2021, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 23, 2021, 06:39:41 PM
He'll soon get his eyes opened in crumlin

Aye from the bottom of the slop !

It's a rough enough aul set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 11:58:50 PM
Jaysus lads enough of the Aldergrove bashing. A club who are doing their best through hard times for the parish and community. Yes it can be a rough set up but name me a perfect club?

A wee bit of respect for all our clubs wouldn't go a miss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 24, 2021, 12:16:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 11:58:50 PM
Jaysus lads enough of the Aldergrove bashing. A club who are doing their best through hard times for the parish and community. Yes it can be a rough set up but name me a perfect club?

A wee bit of respect for all our clubs wouldn't go a miss.
It's a wee joke ! Lighten up PJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2021, 01:03:15 AM
It's a well-run club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 24, 2021, 06:09:43 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 23, 2021, 06:08:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.

Lovely wee ground sure what wouldnt attract him to there
Not their team anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2021, 07:16:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 11:58:50 PM
Jaysus lads enough of the Aldergrove bashing. A club who are doing their best through hard times for the parish and community. Yes it can be a rough set up but name me a perfect club?

A wee bit of respect for all our clubs wouldn't go a miss.

What's going on with their ground at the minute? There was meant to be houses being built on the land a while back. I think they're in limbo and can't really commit to improving facilities or the pitch if they don't know they're going to be moved on from their pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 09:23:34 AM
Jesus lads! Aldergrove are a progressive club, intermediate champions recently and a yo yo club in div 1 but gaining loads of experience which will help improve them further..

Facilities wise they've better changing rooms than ours and I can remember not so so long ago that our own pitch, and other grounds like the Bear pit and similar surfaces.

In my playing days I can remember countless north Antrim and South west Antrim clubs were you got changed in the car, things have improved to the point that these places are as good if not better than some professional soccer grounds. 

Once they get a proper home I'm sure they'll surpass other facilities around the county

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 24, 2021, 09:38:06 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 23, 2021, 06:38:32 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on January 23, 2021, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 23, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
Good of Ronan Clarke to drive to Crumlin to take Aldergrove.

Great Scalp to get, wish we could get him, not as far for a start for him to travel.

Don't see it ass great scalp, has he coached/won anything of note? Or than being an excounty player with a Celtic cross medal

FFs DK Ive met the lad over the last few years absolute gent, great way with him, kids lap him up and Aldergrove have an abundance of young talent like ourselves..and so what if he doesn't have a CV established yet gotta start somewhere...look at Madden and the likes 10 fortunes for services and won FA ..mercenaries one and all... Its not all about the facilities ours are well past their sell by date.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 24, 2021, 09:45:58 AM
And another thing while Im on, why so quiet on Gealfast situation lads? Come out of the woodwork and bash the shite outta Aldergrove , but not whats going on behind the scenes at CB and officer levels around PD and why he jumped!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
It is not in our countys interest to have a full on discussion on this forum about Gaelfast. Every sports journalist in the country would be making hay on it come their next lazy news day. And once again Antrim Gaa would be a laughing stock. Is that really what anyone wants.

This shouldnt be mixed up with suppression of information.Or people being yes men. Its about trying to understand where the fault lines are, who is responsible, and how the situation can be corrected and put back on track. There are 4 partners involved in Gaelfast funding. In these exceptionally precarious times financially we need to ensure all those invested parties that these internal difficulties will be rectified.

Two very capable and respected people involved in the programme have stepped away. Neither have publicly articulated their views reasons....because...they still have the welfare and future of Antrim GAA at heart. They both have more than enough connections and clout to make sure that the people that need to know the facts have that information. We should respect that and take their lead in that regard.

If someone has overstepped their authority, or wrongly interfered with the way Gaelfast was being managed, then make no mistake this will be properly investigated and there should be no hiding place if anyone has overstepped their position.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on January 24, 2021, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
It is not in our countys interest to have a full on discussion on this forum about Gaelfast. Every sports journalist in the country would be making hay on it come their next lazy news day. And once again Antrim Gaa would be a laughing stock. Is that really what anyone wants.

This shouldnt be mixed up with suppression of information.Or people being yes men. Its about trying to understand where the fault lines are, who is responsible, and how the situation can be corrected and put back on track. There are 4 partners involved in Gaelfast funding. In these exceptionally precarious times financially we need to ensure all those invested parties that these internal difficulties will be rectified.

Two very capable and respected people involved in the programme have stepped away. Neither have publicly articulated their views reasons....because...they still have the welfare and future of Antrim GAA at heart. They both have more than enough connections and clout to make sure that the people that need to know the facts have that information. We should respect that and take their lead in that regard.

If someone has overstepped their authority, or wrongly interfered with the way Gaelfast was being managed, then make no mistake this will be properly investigated and there should be no hiding place if anyone has overstepped their position.

Where does Gaelfest go from here BS and what'll Croke Park be doing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
People hiding behind anonymous names on a public forum seeking information about people's reasons for stepping aside, shouldn't really be taken seriously.

There are lots of avenues this information can be found, if they are involved in their club or county I'm sure they could ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on January 24, 2021, 01:00:43 PM
If someone has overstepped their authority, or wrongly interfered with the way Gaelfast was being managed, then make no mistake this will be properly investigated and there should be no hiding place if anyone has overstepped their position.



Bannside lot time for you but get real on the last statement, who's gonna risk that one!!

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
People hiding behind anonymous names on a public forum seeking information about people's reasons for stepping aside, shouldn't really be taken seriously.


And again MR your still heavily involved like Bannside and credit again but you know they read this forum also so cant really expect you to call it out either!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2021, 01:02:18 PM
Exactly MR. Every club has 2 delegates to CC, thats the group of people who ultimately hold the ultimate authority in any county. Ask your club delegate whats happening, thats the system. Even
The elected county executive officers report to this body, and seek approval, consent or ratification for all decisions. Thats the system. Anyone operating outside those confines deserve to and will get their knuckles wrapped if or when appropriate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 01:19:32 PM
why havE you such faith in our county leadershp?
Div 4 football 3 years / casement closed 10 years / 2 senior peoplE resigned from Gfast and I could go on
if we all kept Quiet we woul still have the brits on our streets
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 24, 2021, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 01:19:32 PM
why havE you such faith in our county leadershp?
Div 4 football 3 years / casement closed 10 years / 2 senior peoplE resigned from Gfast and I could go on
if we all kept Quiet we woul still have the brits on our streets
County Committee Meeting Tomorrow night - 25th- so possibly an explanation will be given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 01:34:20 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 01:19:32 PM
why havE you such faith in our county leadershp?
Div 4 football 3 years / casement closed 10 years / 2 senior peoplE resigned from Gfast and I could go on
if we all kept Quiet we woul still have the brits on our streets

Would it not be out of respect that washing washing your dirt in public is not a good thing? Or do you normally go about your business like that? Seems strange why you'd want to have that attention.

Like what's said already there are plenty of avenues to get the information you need. Why you feel dragging it out on an anonymous forum is probably not the best way forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
So u thinK Croke who fork out  70% of the gaelfast moneY make their decisions after reading discussions boards ... wise up! too many yes men on this board  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
So u thinK Croke who fork out  70% of the gaelfast moneY make their decisions after reading discussions boards ... wise up! too many yes men on this board  :)

What are you on about?

If you want to sit behind a computer screen and not name yourself and have a go at people, then dive in, no one is stopping you.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
So u thinK Croke who fork out  70% of the gaelfast moneY make their decisions after reading discussions boards ... wise up! too many yes men on this board  :)

What are you on about?

If you want to sit behind a computer screen and not name yourself and have a go at people, then dive in, no one is stopping you.
tut tut usual reply when Have no argument - Most people remain anonYmous on these boards and thats how they are run. So wat gives any of us confidence Co board can sort this out?
why dontu find a discussioN board where u have give your name and photo?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 09:32:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
So u thinK Croke who fork out  70% of the gaelfast moneY make their decisions after reading discussions boards ... wise up! too many yes men on this board  :)

What are you on about?

If you want to sit behind a computer screen and not name yourself and have a go at people, then dive in, no one is stopping you.
tut tut usual reply when Have no argument - Most people remain anonYmous on these boards and thats how they are run. So wat gives any of us confidence Co board can sort this out?
why dontu find a discussioN board where u have give your name and photo?

Whatever, knock yourself out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2021, 04:35:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 05:30:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 24, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
So u thinK Croke who fork out  70% of the gaelfast moneY make their decisions after reading discussions boards ... wise up! too many yes men on this board  :)

What are you on about?

If you want to sit behind a computer screen and not name yourself and have a go at people, then dive in, no one is stopping you.
tut tut usual reply when Have no argument - Most people remain anonYmous on these boards and thats how they are run. So wat gives any of us confidence Co board can sort this out?
why dontu find a discussioN board where u have give your name and photo?

Tinder?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 27, 2021, 05:34:01 PM
Hi folks, anything of interest discussed at co committee meeting this week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 27, 2021, 08:52:27 PM
couple of pEople have spotted St Johns footballers training at Queens - must THink they are invisible!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannslide on January 27, 2021, 09:31:20 PM
If so this the club should surely deal with this if it's something organised
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2021, 10:49:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 27, 2021, 08:52:27 PM
couple of pEople have spotted St Johns footballers training at Queens - must THink they are invisible!

Queens have no posts up, have you any photos of this or are you just hearing this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 28, 2021, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2021, 10:49:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 27, 2021, 08:52:27 PM
couple of pEople have spotted St Johns footballers training at Queens - must THink they are invisible!

Queens have no posts up, have you any photos of this or are you just hearing this?

Also I would be fairly sure to train at the Dub you need a pitch booking. I would imagine the answer would be no when you made that phone call.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 28, 2021, 08:28:30 AM
Given the hugely positive impact the GAA has had in local communities throughout this pandemic, it would be very disappointing if any individual club behaved recklessly.

We all know there are parts of the media who would be delighted at the opportunity to bring negative attention to the GAA.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

or maybe just a couple of lads went to kick about and do a bit of running off their own bat to try and keep some sanity? the way things are, there's a lot of things id hammer people for but a few lads out kicking a ball in the open and doing a bit of running to maybe keep their heads right and keep the fitness going isnt one of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

or maybe just a couple of lads went to kick about and do a bit of running off their own bat to try and keep some sanity? the way things are, there's a lot of things id hammer people for but a few lads out kicking a ball in the open and doing a bit of running to maybe keep their heads right and keep the fitness going isnt one of them

I went for a run last night, so no doubt there will be a cry from some to say there's collective training from the referee's!


I jest, though I did a run I was on my own.....

I've absolutely no issues with a bunch of guys hitting a pitch and getting core and stamina training done, but they must not have any contact, the fact that they are on a pitch outside and away from each other is no different to me being down at the shore and passing hundreds of people walking along the pathway!

To me organised training is doing drills with the footballs and tackling, not lads running...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

or maybe just a couple of lads went to kick about and do a bit of running off their own bat to try and keep some sanity? the way things are, there's a lot of things id hammer people for but a few lads out kicking a ball in the open and doing a bit of running to maybe keep their heads right and keep the fitness going isnt one of them

I went for a run last night, so no doubt there will be a cry from some to say there's collective training from the referee's!


I jest, though I did a run I was on my own.....

I've absolutely no issues with a bunch of guys hitting a pitch and getting core and stamina training done, but they must not have any contact, the fact that they are on a pitch outside and away from each other is no different to me being down at the shore and passing hundreds of people walking along the pathway!

To me organised training is doing drills with the footballs and tackling, not lads running...

Yeah thats the way I see it, no doubt it was a few lads doing running and one of them probably had a football and they were knocking it about, as I say lot of things people should be hammered about but im not gonna hammer fellas for trying to keep themselves someway fit and getting outta the house.

Also, naming a club was unnecessary in my opinion, when there's no proof of any wrongdoing its just feeling rumours
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

or maybe just a couple of lads went to kick about and do a bit of running off their own bat to try and keep some sanity? the way things are, there's a lot of things id hammer people for but a few lads out kicking a ball in the open and doing a bit of running to maybe keep their heads right and keep the fitness going isnt one of them

I went for a run last night, so no doubt there will be a cry from some to say there's collective training from the referee's!


I jest, though I did a run I was on my own.....

I've absolutely no issues with a bunch of guys hitting a pitch and getting core and stamina training done, but they must not have any contact, the fact that they are on a pitch outside and away from each other is no different to me being down at the shore and passing hundreds of people walking along the pathway!

To me organised training is doing drills with the footballs and tackling, not lads running...

Yeah thats the way I see it, no doubt it was a few lads doing running and one of them probably had a football and they were knocking it about, as I say lot of things people should be hammered about but im not gonna hammer fellas for trying to keep themselves someway fit and getting outta the house.

Also, naming a club was unnecessary in my opinion, when there's no proof of any wrongdoing its just feeling rumours

Same bloke loves a good gossip though, I'd say he's into the soaps too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

or maybe just a couple of lads went to kick about and do a bit of running off their own bat to try and keep some sanity? the way things are, there's a lot of things id hammer people for but a few lads out kicking a ball in the open and doing a bit of running to maybe keep their heads right and keep the fitness going isnt one of them

I went for a run last night, so no doubt there will be a cry from some to say there's collective training from the referee's!


I jest, though I did a run I was on my own.....

I've absolutely no issues with a bunch of guys hitting a pitch and getting core and stamina training done, but they must not have any contact, the fact that they are on a pitch outside and away from each other is no different to me being down at the shore and passing hundreds of people walking along the pathway!

To me organised training is doing drills with the footballs and tackling, not lads running...

Yeah thats the way I see it, no doubt it was a few lads doing running and one of them probably had a football and they were knocking it about, as I say lot of things people should be hammered about but im not gonna hammer fellas for trying to keep themselves someway fit and getting outta the house.

Also, naming a club was unnecessary in my opinion, when there's no proof of any wrongdoing its just feeling rumours

Same bloke loves a good gossip though, I'd say he's into the soaps too
mgr and about 15 players is team traininG - not ok - all above mentoned stuff is ok - try playing the ball an not the man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on January 28, 2021, 11:00:48 AM
Sorry but this is wrong, they should not be training together at all, either small numbers, distance apart, whatever.

Directly from the Covid 19 regulations on NI Direct:

Indoor and outdoor gatherings (excluding private dwellings, weddings, and funerals)
Up to six people (including children of all ages) from a maximum of two households can meet outdoors, or in non-domestic indoor settings for a permitted reason.

You should maintain social distancing by being at least two metres apart, as well as good hand and respiratory hygiene practices.

You may not organise, operate or take part in an indoor or outdoor gathering which consists of more than six people.

The following exemptions apply:

a gathering in a workplace, if it is not possible to work at home
a gathering to provide emergency or medical assistance to any person
blood donation and vaccine sessions
elite sports (not spectators)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on January 28, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 28, 2021, 11:00:48 AM
Sorry but this is wrong, they should not be training together at all, either small numbers, distance apart, whatever.

Directly from the Covid 19 regulations on NI Direct:

Indoor and outdoor gatherings (excluding private dwellings, weddings, and funerals)
Up to six people (including children of all ages) from a maximum of two households can meet outdoors, or in non-domestic indoor settings for a permitted reason.

You should maintain social distancing by being at least two metres apart, as well as good hand and respiratory hygiene practices.

You may not organise, operate or take part in an indoor or outdoor gathering which consists of more than six people.

The following exemptions apply:

a gathering in a workplace, if it is not possible to work at home
a gathering to provide emergency or medical assistance to any person
blood donation and vaccine sessions
elite sports (not spectators)

Ditto:
Exercising and sports
Exercising outdoors
You should minimise time spent outside your home.

You can leave your home to exercise in a public outdoor place:

by yourself
with the people you live with
with your bubble
or, when on your own, with one person from another household
You should not travel more than 10 miles from your home in order to take exercise. If, when you arrive at your proposed destination, there are crowds which will make social distancing difficult you should find an alternative place to exercise.

Sporting activities
Indoor and outdoor sport is not permitted, other than at elite level.

Elite training and competition can continue, both indoors and outdoors.

Elite sporting events must be held behind closed doors without spectators.

The definition of an elite athlete is set out in the regulations(external link opens in a new window / tab).

Horse racing can take place behind closed doors, in line with the elite sport regulations and animal welfare considerations.

All sports facilities such as leisure centres, gyms, health clubs, swimming pools, tennis courts, golf courses, fitness and dance studios must close.

Other facilities, including activity centres, equestrian centres (access for the purpose of animal welfare is permitted), marinas, and venues relating to motor sport and water sport must also remain closed.

You cannot participate in personal one-to-one training sessions or group activities such as running or cycling.

Physical education delivered by or for schools, pre-schools and other education providers is permitted to continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 11:13:47 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2021, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

or maybe just a couple of lads went to kick about and do a bit of running off their own bat to try and keep some sanity? the way things are, there's a lot of things id hammer people for but a few lads out kicking a ball in the open and doing a bit of running to maybe keep their heads right and keep the fitness going isnt one of them

I went for a run last night, so no doubt there will be a cry from some to say there's collective training from the referee's!


I jest, though I did a run I was on my own.....

I've absolutely no issues with a bunch of guys hitting a pitch and getting core and stamina training done, but they must not have any contact, the fact that they are on a pitch outside and away from each other is no different to me being down at the shore and passing hundreds of people walking along the pathway!

To me organised training is doing drills with the footballs and tackling, not lads running...

Yeah thats the way I see it, no doubt it was a few lads doing running and one of them probably had a football and they were knocking it about, as I say lot of things people should be hammered about but im not gonna hammer fellas for trying to keep themselves someway fit and getting outta the house.

Also, naming a club was unnecessary in my opinion, when there's no proof of any wrongdoing its just feeling rumours

Same bloke loves a good gossip though, I'd say he's into the soaps too
mgr and about 15 players is team traininG - not ok - all above mentoned stuff is ok - try playing the ball an not the man

Again we are basing it on your intel.. pinch of salt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on January 28, 2021, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 28, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
heard From 2 people but id say no club comittee would ok it just a mgr going rogue and taking a cgance no one else would be over there

Question - when did this occur? evening, day, weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 28, 2021, 11:44:05 AM
MR2, I'm not surprised refs train on their own. 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on January 29, 2021, 10:05:12 AM
Has it ever been brought up at committee meetings within the county to move senior matches from a Sunday to a Friday/Saturday night. give players and coaches a chance to enjoy the weekend. Particularly Dual players who would have one weekend free every two months on estimate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 29, 2021, 10:35:02 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on January 29, 2021, 10:05:12 AM
Has it ever been brought up at committee meetings within the county to move senior matches from a Sunday to a Friday/Saturday night. give players and coaches a chance to enjoy the weekend. Particularly Dual players who would have one weekend free every two months on estimate.

It has , following the players forums, it was discussed and agreed that a  starred fixture on Friday would be of good for spectator no.s etc
Then Covid happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 29, 2021, 12:47:57 PM
Did we used to play matches on a Friday night? Many years ago in the early 2000s for about a season or 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2021, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2021, 12:47:57 PM
Did we used to play matches on a Friday night? Many years ago in the early 2000s for about a season or 2?

Here's the thing, fixtures are put out at the start of the year, there is no regulation saying that games can't be played on a Friday night, if the two clubs are happy to play then agreement with the CCC is usually given, this has happen before, the problem obviously is if there are other fixtures fixed for that time, minor, ladies or whatever then pitch availability may be the issue.

There are other factors too, Wed night games and then playing on the Friday, lads not getting back from work till late and so on..

But if they agreed on it as delgany has said then hopefully that'll be the case this year/next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
there were two teams training at the Dub yesterday, one hurling and one football. Under the circumstances there would not have been a pitch booking. But no doubt - it wasn't a group of lads meeting up for a kick / puck about - organised drills, cones, bags of balls. Its not on really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 01, 2021, 07:40:46 AM
Absolutely shocking and RECKLESS - at least no clubs pinpointed this time.
Some recent posters were dismissive of recent posts on the board about this but it would appear that training has been taking place.
MR2 will be wringing his hands but will still look for proof.
Have you any photos of the offenders Brendan???  LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 01, 2021, 09:26:23 AM
I hear some disturbing rumours coming out of Crumlin also this weekend, I stress rumours!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 01, 2021, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
there were two teams training at the Dub yesterday, one hurling and one football. Under the circumstances there would not have been a pitch booking. But no doubt - it wasn't a group of lads meeting up for a kick / puck about - organised drills, cones, bags of balls. Its not on really.

Brendan who were the teams involved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 01, 2021, 10:39:32 AM
I don't know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 01, 2021, 10:39:32 AM
I don't know

County Down teams or Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 01, 2021, 10:39:32 AM
I don't know

County Down teams or Antrim

Don't be trying to tar us with the same brush there MR2!!!

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 01, 2021, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 01, 2021, 10:39:32 AM
I don't know

County Down teams or Antrim

Don't be trying to tar us with the same brush there MR2!!!


1 co Down, 1 Antrim

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 01, 2021, 12:50:02 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 01, 2021, 09:26:23 AM
I hear some disturbing rumours coming out of Crumlin also this weekend, I stress rumours!

You keeping this to yourself or are you gonna spill em?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 01, 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
there were two teams training at the Dub yesterday, one hurling and one football. Under the circumstances there would not have been a pitch booking. But no doubt - it wasn't a group of lads meeting up for a kick / puck about - organised drills, cones, bags of balls. Its not on really.
Disappointing to hear that, whatever clubs involved have a severe lack of leadership at the top of their committees never mind their senior managers. Bigger question is what advantage they think they are gaining with the championship probably not until late July at the earliest. A bit brainless all round if you ask me. Nothing worse than stupid people who think they are smart!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 01, 2021, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 01, 2021, 12:50:02 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 01, 2021, 09:26:23 AM
I hear some disturbing rumours coming out of Crumlin also this weekend, I stress rumours!

You keeping this to yourself or are you gonna spill em?

Go on ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 01, 2021, 03:52:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 01, 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
there were two teams training at the Dub yesterday, one hurling and one football. Under the circumstances there would not have been a pitch booking. But no doubt - it wasn't a group of lads meeting up for a kick / puck about - organised drills, cones, bags of balls. Its not on really.
Disappointing to hear that, whatever clubs involved have a severe lack of leadership at the top of their committees never mind their senior managers. Bigger question is what advantage they think they are gaining with the championship probably not until late July at the earliest. A bit brainless all round if you ask me. Nothing worse than stupid people who think they are smart!!!

An eight week ban !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2021, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 01, 2021, 10:39:32 AM
I don't know
no photoS or proff but hearing rossa hurlers which is a biG surprise from that club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 01, 2021, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!

28 days left , PJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:37:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 01, 2021, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!

28 days left , PJ

I thought it was a soccer kinda thing  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 01, 2021, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:37:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 01, 2021, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!

28 days left , PJ

I thought it was a soccer kinda thing  ;)
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They'd be looking a few 'free' transfers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 02, 2021, 07:38:02 AM
I see from Irish Examiner that bans have been handed out for training. Maybe this will stop trams gathering at the Dub.
https://www.facebook.com/185242841521695/posts/3669816303064314/?sfnsn=scwspwa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 02, 2021, 07:38:02 AM
I see from Irish Examiner that bans have been handed out for training. Maybe this will stop trams gathering at the Dub.
https://www.facebook.com/185242841521695/posts/3669816303064314/?sfnsn=scwspwa

They'll find another way, a few teams flouted the rules during the first lockdown by training and from what I can gather it was at Junior, Intermediate and Senior.

Any clubs found guilty should be banned for a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2021, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 02, 2021, 07:38:02 AM
I see from Irish Examiner that bans have been handed out for training. Maybe this will stop trams gathering at the Dub.
https://www.facebook.com/185242841521695/posts/3669816303064314/?sfnsn=scwspwa

They'll find another way, a few teams flouted the rules during the first lockdown by training and from what I can gather it was at Junior, Intermediate and Senior.

Any clubs found guilty should be banned for a year.
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I just don't get the mentality of anyone who would be organising this kind of activity at the moment.
I don't see the gains in any sense.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2021, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2021, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 02, 2021, 07:38:02 AM
I see from Irish Examiner that bans have been handed out for training. Maybe this will stop trams gathering at the Dub.
https://www.facebook.com/185242841521695/posts/3669816303064314/?sfnsn=scwspwa

They'll find another way, a few teams flouted the rules during the first lockdown by training and from what I can gather it was at Junior, Intermediate and Senior.

Any clubs found guilty should be banned for a year.
[/quote

I just don't get the mentality of anyone who would be organising this kind of activity at the moment.
I don't see the gains in any sense.

There are gains, and if you had have seen the difference between Antrim and Wicklow in the football this year then one team was physically stronger and bigger, and faster than than Antrim.. blew us away and it was a bit of a difference in previous encounters.

I'm not for it and there should be ban of sorts if there has been organised drills with a manager.. I'm still happy enough for lads to train distanced though but no physical drills and socially distanced

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on February 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!
I had a good laugh at this :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!
I had a good laugh at this :D

Glad I brightened up your day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2021, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!
I had a good laugh at this :D

Glad I brightened up your day!

Piss aff!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2021, 02:10:37 PM
Just seeing that suspensions having been handed down to Cork and Down for breaking training regulations.

Think we would need to be taking a look at this and any clubs involved need a serious bit of cop on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 02, 2021, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2021, 02:10:37 PM
Just seeing that suspensions having been handed down to Cork and Down for breaking training regulations.

Think we would need to be taking a look at this and any clubs involved need a serious bit of cop on.

You'd think the risk of getting caught at a collective training session nowadays would be too risky?

Maybe these bans will slow things down a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 02, 2021, 04:13:10 PM
Hard to understand why any club would be going with a collective training session, makes no sense. I know of a few grounds with lights making the pitch available for evenings for individuals to train. Can't train in the dark, unlike in April/May/June where you had evening light and could use a local field to keep fit.

There will be some amount of injured players at club level this year. Gyms shut, teams can't train. Physio's will make a fortunes  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2021, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 02, 2021, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2021, 07:29:18 PM
Transfer deadline day.. what city clubs are poaching other clubs players today?? big money moves across the city!
I had a good laugh at this :D

Glad I brightened up your day!

Piss aff!!

Not very nice of you  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 03, 2021, 06:05:03 PM
I must say we (Clubs) may be getting very resourceful these days, now take the scenario of lets say an U20 football team brought down to the pitch staggered times in small groups throughout the morning organised previously, to do a run then a fitness test etc etc for the new management team, and the new management team just happened to be in the clubhouse at a meeting about the possible new season etc etc etc. Then the police who possibly are driving around doing their job, see this regularly over a period of time and inquire is there training going on? Whats your opinions gents ? Its a tough one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 03, 2021, 09:45:42 PM
if managers and players are there its officail session - simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2021, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: groundlie on February 04, 2021, 10:16:39 AM
Antrim Hurlers training away. Been spotted out several times.

Where at? I think this accusation was dismissed on the Hurling page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on February 04, 2021, 10:31:07 AM
12 week ban for Paddy Tally, can we expect to see more of the same for some of these clubs allegedly training?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2021, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 04, 2021, 10:31:07 AM
12 week ban for Paddy Tally, can we expect to see more of the same for some of these clubs allegedly training?

You'd hope so. I've heard rumours of North Antrim teams also training on the sneak.

Anybody and any club found breaking these rules should be punished severely. Shows a complete lack of respect and leadership.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2021, 09:29:04 AM
id be very surprised if any teams are training. I know lads have individual training/running to do for teams but theres no where to train at night as everywhere is closed.

i work from home every day and can see our pitch and i can def confirm theres no one training in it. Nothing but constant walkers and runners is all you see.

If teams are breaking the rules then plain and simple kick them out of the championship. It will solve it all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2021, 09:39:38 AM
Round where I'm at there are pitches and boys are training in twos there but that's it. It's also soccer pitches which are well hidden so if GAA teams wanted to train this would be the place for them and they aren't lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 05, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
CCC proposing single round leagues with promotion and relegation for winners only in hurling and football.  With group based championship format, like last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on February 05, 2021, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
CCC proposing single round leagues with promotion and relegation for winners only in hurling and football.  With group based championship format, like last year.

Seems like an ambitious schedule, when are they thinking this might start?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 05, 2021, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 05, 2021, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
CCC proposing single round leagues with promotion and relegation for winners only in hurling and football.  With group based championship format, like last year.

Seems like an ambitious schedule, when are they thinking this might start?

That's outside Ccc remit at the present time , but if it started in May , they would have 6 months to play approximately 20 games in football , hurling slight less games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 05, 2021, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 05, 2021, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
CCC proposing single round leagues with promotion and relegation for winners only in hurling and football.  With group based championship format, like last year.

Seems like an ambitious schedule, when are they thinking this might start?

That's outside Ccc remit at the present time , but if it started in May , they would have 6 months to play approximately 20 games in football , hurling slight less games

With how roll outs of vaccines and how things are currently going I wouldn't be surprised to see a return to sports training after Patricks day, id say you could prob see club football middle of April and latest may, id say leagues will be a case of play away without county players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 05, 2021, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 05, 2021, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
CCC proposing single round leagues with promotion and relegation for winners only in hurling and football.  With group based championship format, like last year.

Seems like an ambitious schedule, when are they thinking this might start?

That's outside Ccc remit at the present time , but if it started in May , they would have 6 months to play approximately 20 games in football , hurling slight less games

With how roll outs of vaccines and how things are currently going I wouldn't be surprised to see a return to sports training after Patricks day, id say you could prob see club football middle of April and latest may, id say leagues will be a case of play away without county players

Fingers crossed, there was some buzz around last year and getting out onto the pitch is what made the summer... hopefully we can all get back at it again. I miss it lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2021, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 05, 2021, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 05, 2021, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 05, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
CCC proposing single round leagues with promotion and relegation for winners only in hurling and football.  With group based championship format, like last year.

Seems like an ambitious schedule, when are they thinking this might start?

That's outside Ccc remit at the present time , but if it started in May , they would have 6 months to play approximately 20 games in football , hurling slight less games

With how roll outs of vaccines and how things are currently going I wouldn't be surprised to see a return to sports training after Patricks day, id say you could prob see club football middle of April and latest may, id say leagues will be a case of play away without county players

Fingers crossed, there was some buzz around last year and getting out onto the pitch is what made the summer... hopefully we can all get back at it again. I miss it lol

Never as happy to see you turn up in Dunloy last year for that friendly!  ;D Didnt even care who won as it was the first hurling match of the year we had seen in the pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 06, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 06, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
Those claims might be a bit grand alright, but you do have to applaud St Endas very obvious ambition. Seem to have a lot of people pulling in the right direction. Definitely on a very  clear progress curve, how many Antrim clubs can definitely say that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 06, 2021, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 06, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...
Quote from: bannside on February 06, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
Those claims might be a bit grand alright, but you do have to applaud St Endas very obvious ambition. Seem to have a lot of people pulling in the right direction. Definitely on a very  clear progress curve, how many Antrim clubs can definitely say that?

The Cultural Renaissance in its Prime, Plunkett & Co would be proud, as I said keep the politics out of Gaa. (mass mobilisation at a local level, its the direction that would worry me)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 06, 2021, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 06, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...
them boys will sue u for That big balls  :) :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 07, 2021, 10:38:52 AM
Seen the set up for next year, looks pretty good actually, groups again in championship with also a relegation playoff, 1 up 1 down in the leagues, woulda be right in thinking that champ winner will also go up and that's what the relegation play off is for, the other team to go down? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 07, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Not sure reasons for relegation play offs in championships.This hasn't been made clear. Currently  clubs select their championship status  other than IFC & JFC winners. Maybe there is a move to align championship status with league position,  however, would this not have to be put forward at county convention as a change to county bye laws?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 07, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 07, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Not sure reasons for relegation play offs in championships.This hasn't been made clear. Currently  clubs select their championship status  other than IFC & JFC winners. Maybe there is a move to align championship status with league position,  however, would this not have to be put forward at county convention as a change to county bye laws?

That was my reading of it, looks more aligned for example rasharkin playing JFC this year when they played IFC last year, I'd say there's an acceptance that it had to be done, think it would be a good thing and prob long over due getting it aligned to the leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 07, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 07, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 07, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Not sure reasons for relegation play offs in championships.This hasn't been made clear. Currently  clubs select their championship status  other than IFC & JFC winners. Maybe there is a move to align championship status with league position,  however, would this not have to be put forward at county convention as a change to county bye laws?

That was my reading of it, looks more aligned for example rasharkin playing JFC this year when they played IFC last year, I'd say there's an acceptance that it had to be done, think it would be a good thing and prob long over due getting it aligned to the leagues

Would IFC & JFC winners be promoted automatically as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on February 07, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 07, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 07, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 07, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Not sure reasons for relegation play offs in championships.This hasn't been made clear. Currently  clubs select their championship status  other than IFC & JFC winners. Maybe there is a move to align championship status with league position,  however, would this not have to be put forward at county convention as a change to county bye laws?

That was my reading of it, looks more aligned for example rasharkin playing JFC this year when they played IFC last year, I'd say there's an acceptance that it had to be done, think it would be a good thing and prob long over due getting it aligned to the leagues

Would IFC & JFC winners be promoted automatically as well?

I have no idea but that was my first thought on looking at it, would make sense though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
U20 laegue looks like a fresh new Approach and fingers crossed - any1 no what night itS planned for? think that will b importnat to make it work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
U20 laegue looks like a fresh new Approach and fingers crossed - any1 no what night itS planned for? think that will b importnat to make it work

So not a weekend night? As they'll be partying at weekends
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 07, 2021, 08:23:24 PM
Big shout out to Kevin O Boyle on his recently announced retirement from inter county football. KOBO was  a bit unfortunate with injuries in the latter part of his career, but had done more than enough in the six or eight years when he was in his prime to be remembered as a Saffron legend.

As honest as they came, and a gentleman on and off the pitch, all we can say is thank you Kevin for giving us so many memorable moments in Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 07, 2021, 08:23:24 PM
Big shout out to Kevin O Boyle on his recently announced retirement from inter county football. KOBO was  a bit unfortunate with injuries in the latter part of his career, but had done more than enough in the six or eight years when he was in his prime to be remembered as a Saffron legend.

As honest as they came, and a gentleman on and off the pitch, all we can say is thank you Kevin for giving us so many memorable moments in Saffron.

Quality player and as honest defender you'll get. Plays the game with the right attitude every time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
U20 laegue looks like a fresh new Approach and fingers crossed - any1 no what night itS planned for? think that will b importnat to make it work

So not a weekend night? As they'll be partying at weekends
yes ! And not close to senioR matches mon or Tuesday night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
U20 laegue looks like a fresh new Approach and fingers crossed - any1 no what night itS planned for? think that will b importnat to make it work

So not a weekend night? As they'll be partying at weekends
yes ! And not close to senioR matches mon or Tuesday night

What about employing non contact as well, you wouldn't want them hurting themselves...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 08, 2021, 05:20:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2021, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 07, 2021, 07:11:25 PM
U20 laegue looks like a fresh new Approach and fingers crossed - any1 no what night itS planned for? think that will b importnat to make it work

So not a weekend night? As they'll be partying at weekends
yes ! And not close to senioR matches mon or Tuesday night

What about employing non contact as well, you wouldn't want them hurting themselves...
wouldnt want to confuse the refS any more than they are already !  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on February 10, 2021, 09:05:50 PM
No football to Easter now at the earliest! Will we see a season at all? All this lockdown makes me miss even pre-season!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 10, 2021, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 10, 2021, 09:05:50 PM
No football to Easter now at the earliest! Will we see a season at all? All this lockdown makes me miss even pre-season!

Antrim football leagues were due to start after Easter - anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 10, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 10, 2021, 09:05:50 PM
No football to Easter now at the earliest! Will we see a season at all? All this lockdown makes me miss even pre-season!

Bring back the Mc Kenna Cup!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 10, 2021, 10:16:46 PM
As I've said before.. Even the McKenna's don't go to the McKenna Cup games 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 10, 2021, 11:35:15 PM
Are managers getting paid 80% Furlough?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: groundlie on February 11, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
It looks like it's going to be similar to last year. The county game will be pushed back to September and it will be just championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 12, 2021, 08:51:13 AM
A season like last year would work tho the GAA will be wanting to push the All irelands to later in the year to see if they can get people in at the games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 12, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
THE Gaa didn't ask for eLite status in the free state but soccer and rugBy did? whats that about????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2021, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 12, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
THE Gaa didn't ask for eLite status in the free state but soccer and rugBy did? whats that about????

I would imagine it is a combination of wait and see how things go over the next few months & avoiding any negative publicity. I think it would preferable to all to be able to open up the clubs again and get communities back to those in the fullness of time. This would avoid the fiasco of 200 tickets for games etc.

The county game while it was genuinely first class last year, now that they know it can be done in this manner they have the flexibility to wait and see if there will be enough restrictions lifted to get some level of crowds at the games.

We all know the LoI is not elite level sport, there are half a dozen or more county set ups which would put the best of LoI to shame. I think they are trying to box clever a bit here. IMO if we wait a while and get a clear picture of how the summer and autumn look, then we plan it out and stick to it as an organisation top to bottom. Get back as close as we can to the structures we are used too for all members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 12, 2021, 04:58:20 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 10, 2021, 11:35:15 PM
Are managers getting paid 80% Furlough?
wouldn't think SO but surely refs r gettinG some support from GAA as memebrs of staff?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough

How many would that involve Delgany?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough

How many would that involve Delgany?
8 coaches & 2 managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough

How many would that involve Delgany?
8 coaches & 2 managers

This has been happening since March last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:54:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough

How many would that involve Delgany?
8 coaches & 2 managers

This has been happening since March last year.

They worked  part time  from Oct - Dec .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 06:59:05 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:54:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough

How many would that involve Delgany?
8 coaches & 2 managers

This has been happening since March last year.

They worked  part time  from Oct - Dec .

So they haven't fully been carrying out their duties due to Covid, the unfortunate thing is I hope that's not been eating into the funds that were available.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 12, 2021, 07:14:19 PM
If they had been working from home in some capacity we may have finally seen the Gaelfast plan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 07:38:04 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 12, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
What happens with Gaelfest during lockdown?

Do the workers still get paid?

On furlough

How many would that involve Delgany?
8 coaches & 2 managers

What's the reason for 2 managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 12, 2021, 07:14:19 PM
If they had been working from home in some capacity we may have finally seen the Gaelfast plan

Have you not seen the plan?

Coaching kids from home? Brilliant idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 12, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
Healthy Kidz have been doing zoom PE classes for children and they have been brilliant. Gaelfast could surely do something similar for P1-7.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 12, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
Healthy Kidz have been doing zoom PE classes for children and they have been brilliant. Gaelfast could surely do something similar for P1-7.

We've a clubman and coach doing loads of zoom fitness classes but to do coaching in the garden it's not the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 13, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 12, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
Healthy Kidz have been doing zoom PE classes for children and they have been brilliant. Gaelfast could surely do something similar for P1-7.

We've a clubman and coach doing loads of zoom fitness classes but to do coaching in the garden it's not the same

Of course it's not the same but it's better than nothing. This has been a hard lockdown for the children and they've been loving seeing their friends on the zoom PE classes each week. They have been doing ball work and fundamental skills for 40mins each week. If they offered it to the schools on a weekly basis,  the children (and parents) would love it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2021, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 13, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 12, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
Healthy Kidz have been doing zoom PE classes for children and they have been brilliant. Gaelfast could surely do something similar for P1-7.

We've a clubman and coach doing loads of zoom fitness classes but to do coaching in the garden it's not the same

Of course it's not the same but it's better than nothing. This has been a hard lockdown for the children and they've been loving seeing their friends on the zoom PE classes each week. They have been doing ball work and fundamental skills for 40mins each week. If they offered it to the schools on a weekly basis,  the children (and parents) would love it.

I'm not saying it's pointless my point is if the funding is frozen, I'm not sure it is btw, then once we are opened up the Gaelfast can resume, should they be doing zoom classes then that's seen as working and furlough is cancelled.

They (the coaches) did ask to do this as I know one of the coaches well, he said Croke stopped the idea.

Furlough is no work whatsoever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 13, 2021, 10:28:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2021, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 13, 2021, 04:56:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2021, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 12, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
Healthy Kidz have been doing zoom PE classes for children and they have been brilliant. Gaelfast could surely do something similar for P1-7.

We've a clubman and coach doing loads of zoom fitness classes but to do coaching in the garden it's not the same

Of course it's not the same but it's better than nothing. This has been a hard lockdown for the children and they've been loving seeing their friends on the zoom PE classes each week. They have been doing ball work and fundamental skills for 40mins each week. If they offered it to the schools on a weekly basis,  the children (and parents) would love it.

I'm not saying it's pointless my point is if the funding is frozen, I'm not sure it is btw, then once we are opened up the Gaelfast can resume, should they be doing zoom classes then that's seen as working and furlough is cancelled.

They (the coaches) did ask to do this as I know one of the coaches well, he said Croke stopped the idea.

Furlough is no work whatsoever

Totally fair enough if it is out of their control. But if they have a choice, I'd choose to have some sort of impact into the schools. Healthy Kidz are already doing this in a lot of schools so they may have missed the boat anyway. It would have been great PR for a start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 13, 2021, 10:30:51 AM
Good to c counyty chairman speak out about loss o elite status in paper today . John Horgan sounds like he couldn't be arsed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 15, 2021, 11:38:31 AM
Quote from: groundlie on February 15, 2021, 10:14:22 AM


What's the reason for 2 managers?

Its a mystery. Money would be better spent on 2 coaches. Also they have a project manager?!
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They do work with schools but also manage other aspects,  working with clubs, safeguarding courses, coach education etc.
One hurling / one football line managers - would be more apt role with the project manager on top.line !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 16, 2021, 01:41:58 PM
A bleak report in the Irish News online today about the funding of Casement. This time the GAA wont be able to meet its 20% contribution "in the short to medium term".  How many more knocks can this project take before its pulled completely. What a disaster the whole thing has been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 16, 2021, 04:29:12 PM
Yeah Fair thing wold be to sell One of Dublin's centres of excellence - greater need in Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2021, 07:46:18 PM
Just ask for it back, do it up and start playing games again, tear the stand down and put up something similar to Corrigan and away we go.

#bringcasementback
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on February 16, 2021, 08:29:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2021, 07:46:18 PM
Just ask for it back, do it up and start playing games again, tear the stand down and put up something similar to Corrigan and away we go.

#bringcasementback
Why hasn't it been used since they closed it up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2021, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on February 16, 2021, 08:29:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2021, 07:46:18 PM
Just ask for it back, do it up and start playing games again, tear the stand down and put up something similar to Corrigan and away we go.

#bringcasementback
Why hasn't it been used since they closed it up?

Insurance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2021, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2021, 07:46:18 PM
Just ask for it back, do it up and start playing games again, tear the stand down and put up something similar to Corrigan and away we go.

#bringcasementback
Is right! forgot get the space ship and givs us back r casement . at this stage we would all be happy with a 5/10 thousand OPEN ground
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: groundlie on February 17, 2021, 10:19:47 AM
#givecasementback
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2021, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: groundlie on February 17, 2021, 10:19:47 AM
#givecasementback

Is this a rival # ?

;D

In fairness I'm not a # person so I don't even know what a # means
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 17, 2021, 05:11:31 PM
Ahhh feck it, lets just build social housing twin it with Tiocfaidh Monagh or Tiocfaidh Ford housing developments. What a complete and utter B***s up. The biggest and only major construction project ever brought into West belfast for 40 years Jesus Wept!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 18, 2021, 07:41:20 AM
With the recent terrible news about GAA financial situation I believe that we will have to wait 10 years for work to commence if at all. By this stage executive funding will have vanished and Casement will be returned to us as a small stadium that's fit for nothing. Shambles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2021, 08:23:42 AM
personally i dont ever see Casement happening. By the time the GAA finds the money it will be too far down the line.

The planning approval will prob have ran out by that stage and need to go back in again! We may get used to Ballycastle and Corrigan Park for the foreseeable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 08:31:00 AM
I would agree DR. At least Corrigan has that new stand - if we ever get to see it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 18, 2021, 08:45:37 AM
Have to agree with you on that DR. I cant see it ever happening. I cringe reading articles from Stephen McGeehan from Ulster GAA on the subject. What a mess Ulster GAA made of it all from the very start. In their strategic plan released just yesterday or the day before "there is renewed optimism work will finally commence in 2021". Even without the pandemic there is only 9 months left in the calendar year, and with all the various obstacles in the way what sort of idiots do they take people for ffs. Antrim should be calling this out!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 18, 2021, 08:58:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 18, 2021, 08:45:37 AM
Have to agree with you on that DR. I cant see it ever happening. I cringe reading articles from Stephen McGeehan from Ulster GAA on the subject. What a mess Ulster GAA made of it all from the very start. In their strategic plan released just yesterday or the day before "there is renewed optimism work will finally commence in 2021". Even without the pandemic there is only 9 months left in the calendar year, and with all the various obstacles in the way what sort of idiots do they take people for ffs. Antrim should be calling this out!!!

Antrim should have called it out from the very word go and IMO have been treated poorly partly due to our own short comings at the time. The only winners in this so far are St John's.

I think it will be built, the GAA will find some money and so will Stormont, might mean a sop payment to the IFA and Ulster Rugby to balance things out but if that is what it takes then they will do it.

It was billed a fundamental building block in the renewal and growth of our games in the second city, so don't forget that element in all the bullsh*t. So if that means the GAA need to dig a bit deeper then that's what they will need to do, for too long they have neglected Belfast so they can look at it as retrospective payment if it makes it more palatable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 18, 2021, 09:08:10 AM
Haven't kept up to date with the whole Casement thing but what is stopping it from being built? Are the residents still the stumbling block?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 09:14:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 18, 2021, 08:45:37 AM
Have to agree with you on that DR. I cant see it ever happening. I cringe reading articles from Stephen McGeehan from Ulster GAA on the subject. What a mess Ulster GAA made of it all from the very start. In their strategic plan released just yesterday or the day before "there is renewed optimism work will finally commence in 2021". Even without the pandemic there is only 9 months left in the calendar year, and with all the various obstacles in the way what sort of idiots do they take people for ffs. Antrim should be calling this out!!!

Would be less impressed with his predecessor but wouldn't be too impressed by either in this regard. The nonsense being pedaled.

Jim planning and money too(in short).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 18, 2021, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 18, 2021, 09:14:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 18, 2021, 08:45:37 AM
Have to agree with you on that DR. I cant see it ever happening. I cringe reading articles from Stephen McGeehan from Ulster GAA on the subject. What a mess Ulster GAA made of it all from the very start. In their strategic plan released just yesterday or the day before "there is renewed optimism work will finally commence in 2021". Even without the pandemic there is only 9 months left in the calendar year, and with all the various obstacles in the way what sort of idiots do they take people for ffs. Antrim should be calling this out!!!

Would be less impressed with his predecessor but wouldn't be too impressed by either in this regard. The nonsense being pedaled.

Jim planning and money too(in short).

The longest planning application in history
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2021, 11:24:09 AM
Its very depressing to think that once great venue is now lying how it is.

Theres been lots of faults all along the way in this from the start of the process to now. Closing down Casement while we waited on a planning application to be done and submitted etc was silly. the ground should of been kept open until the last moments.

Was there a public consultation done on the project? Not sure if one was done at that time to gauge the local response to the scheme designs for the ground. I have always got the feeling that the money was there - we all took it and never for once though it all through at all. Just get it done and built seemed to be the thought process.

The balls up made with the health and safety side of things for the fire escapes, large crowd evacuations etc. All signs that the project was just being pushed through to get that public money spent and get it built.

The complete shambles made with the original planning decision. I mean ffs i have a handling sometimes trying to get a house passed for planning through my work and have to jump through hoops just for that to be done lol

The on going mess with the local residents and their concerns. Should of been sorted right back at the very start with a public consultation and meetings for have that all in place before it got into Planning.

There's little can be done with regards to the time and costs going up, thats just a reflection on how things are now, with the GAA being asked to foot more money into this as the money that was ring fenced isn't enough to cover the new costs. As time moves on and nothing happening the cost of construction will also keep rising.

Another smaller scheme would need to go back into Planning and that in itself would just add more years onto a delay in starting. I feel we are where we are now and it wont be changed or reduced down. It will be down to the GAA finding more money as the executive wont be stumping up anymore without a political row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: drillsergeant on February 18, 2021, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 18, 2021, 11:24:09 AM
Its very depressing to think that once great venue is now lying how it is.

Theres been lots of faults all along the way in this from the start of the process to now. Closing down Casement while we waited on a planning application to be done and submitted etc was silly. the ground should of been kept open until the last moments.

Was there a public consultation done on the project? Not sure if one was done at that time to gauge the local response to the scheme designs for the ground. I have always got the feeling that the money was there - we all took it and never for once though it all through at all. Just get it done and built seemed to be the thought process.

The balls up made with the health and safety side of things for the fire escapes, large crowd evacuations etc. All signs that the project was just being pushed through to get that public money spent and get it built.

The complete shambles made with the original planning decision. I mean ffs i have a handling sometimes trying to get a house passed for planning through my work and have to jump through hoops just for that to be done lol

The on going mess with the local residents and their concerns. Should of been sorted right back at the very start with a public consultation and meetings for have that all in place before it got into Planning.

There's little can be done with regards to the time and costs going up, thats just a reflection on how things are now, with the GAA being asked to foot more money into this as the money that was ring fenced isn't enough to cover the new costs. As time moves on and nothing happening the cost of construction will also keep rising.

Another smaller scheme would need to go back into Planning and that in itself would just add more years onto a delay in starting. I feel we are where we are now and it wont be changed or reduced down. It will be down to the GAA finding more money as the executive wont be stumping up anymore without a political row.

I doubt anything will ever happen at casement an it is such a pity. I always believed they didn't need this big fancy stadium, tell me why they couldn't of just tidied it up a bit? Surely that's all it needed?! Didn't get over why they didn't build something similar to Owenbeg at Dunsilly, surely that would of done the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 18, 2021, 02:23:29 PM
Did casement not get the go ahead recently there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 18, 2021, 03:51:59 PM
Yeah it did.

Pretty much all issues resolved with the residents from what I understand.
Simply now down to a shortfall on the money. So the GAA are going to have to pony up some more cash.

It was handled appallingly from the get go and Antrim were right royally shafted in the process and I am pretty sure will continue to be in the future when it comes to access to the actual place.

But it is at the stage now where this is a once in a lifetime opportunity not to be repeated to get a state of the art facility for our games in the second city. So it is a matter of suck it up and show some commitment to people of Antrim and the North and get it done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on February 18, 2021, 04:28:34 PM
It isn't a case of casement will go ahead now but rather when and who will pay for it.
Regardless of what both parties say there is clearly going to be a standoff between the GAA and the department of communities to see who will foot the bill. As for talk of scaling down etc wise the bap! There is not going to be any other show in town.

The best part of a decade on I still find it infuriating how and why casement was allowed to close in the first place before planning had been passed. But what people seem to forget is that a primary motive of the then county chairman to close Casement was to get the social club closed. A personal gripe. At the time it had to close once the stadium had been condemned due to H&S reasons. Casement could and should have remained open only for some fairly minor repairs.

Did you ever hear the story about the building contractor that told the lay man that if he gave him his 2 up 2 down house he would build him a big mansion but with the caveat that he wouldn't actually ever own it? Well that guy has been homeless now pushing on 8 years. Welcome to the casement park fiasco
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2021, 05:05:03 PM
Part of the problem in this wasn't caused by the GAA that caused such a massive delay which has had the knock on effect to leave it so far down the line and the costs go up.

The cost of steel, blocks, insulation, windows etc have risen due to the pandemic, inflation, natural rises and brexit. Of course what was ring fenced and agreed 10 years ago was never going to be in the same playing field as it is now so for the GAA to be asked to up their commitment for something that wasn't their fault is a bit laughable. I can see why the GAA arent forthcoming with any commitments to give anymore money into the project.

They already have commitments to other improvements in Meath and Kildare put on the back burner so Antrim will go the same way with that regards as well.

The DOC wont be forth coming with more money at the moment, the GAA either. Casement Park will be sitting as it is for a while longer.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 18, 2021, 06:39:55 PM
No accountability whatsoever, Antrim we not shafted NAG1 you need to do more digging on that one...Easy to blame UC need to look closer to home but hopefully the truth will come out eventually on who did what and why? You cannot just pick up whenever , it will have to be re-tendered or it could be JR'd to the days of amen with the other 5 bidders. External independent investigation needed to be initiated by the County, but then that would be Turkeys voting for Christmas as they say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 18, 2021, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 18, 2021, 03:51:59 PM
Yeah it did.

Pretty much all issues resolved with the residents from what I understand.
Simply now down to a shortfall on the money. So the GAA are going to have to pony up some more cash.

It was handled appallingly from the get go and Antrim were right royally shafted in the process and I am pretty sure will continue to be in the future when it comes to access to the actual place.

But it is at the stage now where this is a once in a lifetime opportunity not to be repeated to get a state of the art facility for our games in the second city. So it is a matter of suck it up and show some commitment to people of Antrim and the North and get it done.

Antrim will be somewhere behind Feile an Phobail for access and use
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 18, 2021, 10:28:50 PM
Im not an architect or anyThing like that but cant you build a stadium in phases? all the stands dont have to be there on Opening day - cut your cloth acoording to what money u have - get the place in use and build more of it over time? more waiting onlY increase cost and now planning is approved crack on with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2021, 11:06:09 PM
There's more to it.. the infrastructure needs to be right, a busy road needing to be closed and so on..

So the planning id expect needs to be just right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 19, 2021, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 06, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...

Listened to The Saffcast podcast this morning. Very impressive set up that St. Enda's have going on. A serious pick of schools and players feeding into their teams. Surely on numbers alone and with the sort of set up they have they'll be a championship winning club in a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
Definitely need to be thinking along those lines. Ambition and hard work should find its reward. We need a dozen Antrim clubs thinking along these lines. What a difference that would make to the quality of players we are returning to the county pool.

I've said this before, but no harm in repeating. We talk a lot about county development squads and schools needing to do more.....but a club which gets its act properly together in developing its juveniles is in the best place of all to have the biggest influence and obtain the biggest reward.

St Endas are not waiting around. They are siezing the initiative for themselves and fair play to them. With such a massive catchment area they really should be a big contender in the years ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2021, 02:42:06 PM
Would it be a good idea to look at starting a nursery on the grounds of your Club?

St Enda's a great model for that and may start reaping rewards in the future...

I would love us to tear down the clubrooms (sell it off)  and locate down at the pitch with a new build and a possible Irish school type nursery 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 19, 2021, 02:42:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 19, 2021, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 06, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...

Listened to The Saffcast podcast this morning. Very impressive set up that St. Enda's have going on. A serious pick of schools and players feeding into their teams. Surely on numbers alone and with the sort of set up they have they'll be a championship winning club in a few years.

listened to it myself this morning and they have done a fine job at St Endas. I've been impressed with the work they have been doing on and off the field.

If they keep that going at underage level it gives the platform for a senior success at the club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 19, 2021, 05:44:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 19, 2021, 02:42:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 19, 2021, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 06, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
I chuckled this morning when I seen promotional material for St Endas called Club 100.
They claim to be the biggest club in Antrim and Ulster and the  predominant club in South Antrim.  No mean feat.
There is a lot of competition with all the clubs in North Belfast.. Lol 😂😂
The last time I looked they had zero senior football and zero hurling championship medals.
They have a big membership, a growing nursery school and good size of land facilities but they  have also developed a BIG dose of DUP type arrogance as well.  Too soon to claim to be the biggest club in the world...

Listened to The Saffcast podcast this morning. Very impressive set up that St. Enda's have going on. A serious pick of schools and players feeding into their teams. Surely on numbers alone and with the sort of set up they have they'll be a championship winning club in a few years.

listened to it myself this morning and they have done a fine job at St Endas. I've been impressed with the work they have been doing on and off the field.

If they keep that going at underage level it gives the platform for a senior success at the club

They've a ridiculous number of children to chose from as well. That brings its own problems but a good problem to have all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
Positive  spin article in today's IN about Casement. Declan Lynch saying he hopes to play there again in an Antrim jersey and he might well do if he signs up for the Masters football.
When Casement development is stalled again as not enough money is available and I don't think funds will be available for 5-10 years can we hand the project to someone else to oversee.
The Saffron Business Forum team who have done a great job to date with everything they have organised could recruit a team.
Take back control from Ulster Council and make do for now with a smaller stadium for Antrim Gaels similar in size to Ravenhill but future proofed for expansion.
Otherwise it may be destined to be a new supermarket or housing development
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 21, 2021, 06:03:04 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
Positive  spin article in today's IN about Casement. Declan Lynch saying he hopes to play there again in an Antrim jersey and he might well do if he signs up for the Masters football.
When Casement development is stalled again as not enough money is available and I don't think funds will be available for 5-10 years can we hand the project to someone else to oversee.
The Saffron Business Forum team who have done a great job to date with everything they have organised could recruit a team.
Take back control from Ulster Council and make do for now with a smaller stadium for Antrim Gaels similar in size to Ravenhill but future proofed for expansion.
Otherwise it may be destined to be a new supermarket or housing development


Antrim can't take back something they have sold!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2021, 08:33:40 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 21, 2021, 06:03:04 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
Positive  spin article in today's IN about Casement. Declan Lynch saying he hopes to play there again in an Antrim jersey and he might well do if he signs up for the Masters football.
When Casement development is stalled again as not enough money is available and I don't think funds will be available for 5-10 years can we hand the project to someone else to oversee.
The Saffron Business Forum team who have done a great job to date with everything they have organised could recruit a team.
Take back control from Ulster Council and make do for now with a smaller stadium for Antrim Gaels similar in size to Ravenhill but future proofed for expansion.
Otherwise it may be destined to be a new supermarket or housing development


Antrim can't take back something they have sold!

How much did they get for it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2021, 11:45:03 AM
Did we not give it away...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 21, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
all GAA grounds are in the end owned by the GAa head Office - no money would have Chganged hands. the gaels of Antrim bough  the land by fundraising headed by Sean McGettigan and they had that much money over they bougt the land that now houses Rossa/ Sars and NPOl on shaws road
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2021, 03:25:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 21, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
all GAA grounds are in the end owned by the GAa head Office - no money would have Chganged hands. the gaels of Antrim bough  the land by fundraising headed by Sean McGettigan and they had that much money over they bougt the land that now houses Rossa/ Sars and NPOl on shaws road

I know that but someone said it was sold, I was just wondering how much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 21, 2021, 05:05:00 PM
Around the same time as the name was paid for by Croker, ask Mr Quinn how much they got and what was done with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 21, 2021, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 21, 2021, 05:05:00 PM
Around the same time as the name was paid for by Croker, ask Mr Quinn how much they got and what was done with it.
stop Talkin in riddles - what name was paid for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2021, 11:19:21 PM
Mr Quinn wouldn't have that remit. Nothing to see here!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 22, 2021, 06:17:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2021, 11:19:21 PM
Mr Quinn wouldn't have that remit. Nothing to see here!

Bannside no-one said he had a remit but he would know.  You have your finger on the pulse and circulate among these people ask what amount Antrim was paid by croker for its name and account for what the money was spent on? Thats the issue in Antrim theres plenty to see but the clubs are kept in the dark as are the delegates, thats why we're where we are today looking at looking at a derelict site!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2021, 08:37:34 AM
Ok, you are saying Antrim sold the naming rights of the new stadium to the GAA, in a secret deal that Antrim club delegates were not informed of, and that the money went into a "strange" bank account!!

This is wrong on so many levels....I simply don't believe this to be honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 22, 2021, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2021, 08:37:34 AM
Ok, you are saying Antrim sold the naming rights of the new stadium to the GAA, in a secret deal that Antrim club delegates were not informed of, and that the money went into a "strange" bank account!!

This is wrong on so many levels....I simply don't believe this to be honest.

Nope way off the mark, not saying that in any shape or form, however on that note,  the name cannot remain as its public money and must reflect an all inclusive name, but sure they'll tell us that closer the time. You obviously are not aware, my mistake, do some more due diligence bannside, you'll get there eventually.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2021, 04:49:24 PM
There is a degree of merit in your claims WhatwillB.

Under the remit of Colie Donnelly a three man delegation made up of Saffron Business Forum members were approved by CC (and club delegates) to meet with Ulster Council Officials and indeed GAA, to discuss matters pertaining to stadium management etc. During the course of these discussions the matter of naming rights was on the agenda. Nothing was agreed, the stadium delay pushed back the necessity to make decisions.

It may well be true that this matter has resurfaced under the current coiste bainiste, and if so (I reiterate the word IF) then it is certainly very recent and still in development mode. There are a few top Antrim officials who are not aware of it, let's put it that way!

I have it on very good authority that Antrim's proud association with the memory of Roger Casement will remain intact, regardless of where the funding comes from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 22, 2021, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2021, 08:37:34 AM
Ok, you are saying Antrim sold the naming rights of the new stadium to the GAA, in a secret deal that Antrim club delegates were not informed of, and that the money went into a "strange" bank account!!

This is wrong on so many levels....I simply don't believe this to be honest.

Going over old ground again and doesn't matter at this stage but would anyone even be too bothered if all the new stadium issues were going on in the background and we still had our old Casement in place. Class place it was. Still cant figure out why the people at the top of Antrim at the time let it close? Someone earlier said it was something to do with the social club? FFS what a joke if true.
Got a new stand at Corrigan which is nice, looks great and will suit club finals well but we still cant host an official Inter County Ulster Championship game. Deccy Lynch seems a committed lad but id say there is about a 5 percent chance that big stadium will ever be built.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2021, 05:34:58 PM
Insurance was one reason, the stand was condemned also I think. Antrim/Ulster had thought the builders were heading in after planning was sought, I assume they decided it be easy to not pay a year's insurance on a stadium that would be developed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 22, 2021, 07:32:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 22, 2021, 04:49:24 PM
There is a degree of merit in your claims WhatwillB.

Under the remit of Colie Donnelly a three man delegation made up of Saffron Business Forum members were approved by CC (and club delegates) to meet with Ulster Council Officials and indeed GAA, to discuss matters pertaining to stadium management etc. During the course of these discussions the matter of naming rights was on the agenda. Nothing was agreed, the stadium delay pushed back the necessity to make decisions.

It may well be true that this matter has resurfaced under the current coiste bainiste, and if so (I reiterate the word IF) then it is certainly very recent and still in development mode. There are a few top Antrim officials who are not aware of it, let's put it that way!

I have it on very good authority that Antrim's proud association with the memory of Roger Casement will remain intact, regardless of where the funding comes from.

Bannside, It's politics now, can you get that good authority to advise you what was the final figure paid by Croker to own our name and what happened that fee? I don't make claims, just call it as it is. I appreciate that your involvement and peoples knowledge of who you are within the hallowed corridors of Hannastown may stifle your responses and once again credit where credits due I do admire your commitment .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2021, 07:38:26 PM
Did they not move from Hannahstown?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2021, 10:29:37 PM
Just so that I am sure that I'm reading this right WWB, you're saying that (a) Croke Park has already paid money for naming rights, (b) it has gone into some mysterious account where it doesn't belong, (c) the Casement name has gone from the new stadium name, and (d) our county secretary is fully aware of all the above!

Is that correct?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 23, 2021, 12:17:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2021, 05:34:58 PM
Insurance was one reason, the stand was condemned also I think. Antrim/Ulster had thought the builders were heading in after planning was sought, I assume they decided it be easy to not pay a year's insurance on a stadium that would be developed
Belfast City Council would not issue a safety certificate unless the electrics in the stand were rewired. As a result the Antrim County Board decided not to invest £10,000 to replace the electrics as the promise of a completely new stadium was on the way. The Safety Certificate expired resulting in no events being permitted to take place at Casement and it has fallen into a state of despair as a result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 23, 2021, 12:20:02 AM
Could 20,000 of us loyal fans not throw a quid in each to get it rewired, grass cut, a pick of paint and a year's insurance paid?

Get it up and running again ASAP?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on February 23, 2021, 05:47:23 AM
thought asbestos in the main stand was the issue that the ground went off limits
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2021, 08:22:08 AM
Note to WhatwillB. I can say with total 100% certainty that Antrim have not sold the naming rights of Casement Park.
That's from the very highest authority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2021, 08:39:16 AM
Re Casement....all the signs are pointing to a difficult phase ahead, politically and financially, and whilst many still dare to dream of the full completion, others I talk to form a pragmatic view that maybe we need to cut the cloth to suit.

If there is £70m in the pot (safe and ringfenced) but the project needs £110m to deliver (full of risks and uncertainty)... what would the wise man do?

Would he hold out for the grand prize and hope at least three funding partners stump up £30 - £40m between them (all denying the possibility of this under evolving circumstances) or would he (she) propose a complete redrawing of the project to fall within an upper limit of the £70m that we know is available?

I've heard arguments for both sides. Would you settle for a top of the range Mercedes, or hang on in the hope of the flashy Ferrari?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2021, 08:55:14 AM
It's a no brainer BS. There is no need for the big white elephant of a stadium. A modernised version of what we had would be perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2021, 08:57:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 23, 2021, 08:39:16 AM
Re Casement....all the signs are pointing to a difficult phase ahead, politically and financially, and whilst many still dare to dream of the full completion, others I talk to form a pragmatic view that maybe we need to cut the cloth to suit.

If there is £70m in the pot (safe and ringfenced) but the project needs £110m to deliver (full of risks and uncertainty)... what would the wise man do?

Would he hold out for the grand prize and hope at least three funding partners stump up £30 - £40m between them (all denying the possibility of this under evolving circumstances) or would he (she) propose a complete redrawing of the project to fall within an upper limit of the £70m that we know is available?

I've heard arguments for both sides. Would you settle for a top of the range Mercedes, or hang on in the hope of the flashy Ferrari?

I'd settle for a decent Vespa at this stage, with all the trimmings that is..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2021, 09:01:36 AM
https://www.northernsound.ie/podcast-monaghan-gaa-chairman-declan-flanagan/

Some interesting thoughts on the subject. Very well worth a listen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 23, 2021, 12:03:02 PM
I'd settle for 'The Hoppy Dobbins arena' Capacity 25k.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 23, 2021, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 23, 2021, 08:22:08 AM
Note to WhatwillB. I can say with total 100% certainty that Antrim have not sold the naming rights of Casement Park.
That's from the very highest authority.

You're totally in the wrong paddock Bannside, never once said it was to do with the stadium or the naming of it. Come on I credit you with more intelligence, and highest authority !  Please  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2021, 07:59:03 PM
I really am genuinely struggling to keep up with what you're saying. I asked four very simple questions yesterday, and haven't got an answer. Please keep it simple so that I can keep up. Or pm me if you want....anything.... but please no more riddles!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 23, 2021, 09:33:18 PM
I haven't a clue what is going on with all these riddles. Just come out with it ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 23, 2021, 10:25:30 PM
Riddle me this and riddle me that.

Say what you mean and mean what you say!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 24, 2021, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 23, 2021, 10:25:30 PM
Riddle me this and riddle me that.

Say what you mean and mean what you say!

Hasn't a clue what he is on about on any level of this discussion. Therefore refers to innuendo and riddles trying to hide this.

Most people are aware of the mistakes made around the closing of the ground, which to some extent could have been avoided.

The debate has moved on now and it should be about how we now get this project moving and get the groundworks moving. The damage is done in terms of access etc which I argued about at the time, but we need something in place so we go ahead with the overall plan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on February 24, 2021, 01:17:21 PM
 I totally agree that a revised smaller scale stadium to meet the current budget would more than please the Gaels of Antrim.

But I think a lot are missing the point here.

Unless the new stadium can hold 34,000 to host the Ulster Final, then it's not a project that interests Ulster GAA.

Antrim GAA do not own Casement any more so with no tenure over the current site what say do we actually have in how the £70 million is spent?

Even if the DOC thought this was a good idea, I doubt very much it would happen.

I really hope I am wrong but there will not be any other show in town.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 24, 2021, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 24, 2021, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 23, 2021, 10:25:30 PM
Riddle me this and riddle me that.

Say what you mean and mean what you say!

Hasn't a clue what he is on about on any level of this discussion. Therefore refers to innuendo and riddles trying to hide this.

Most people are aware of the mistakes made around the closing of the ground, which to some extent could have been avoided.

The debate has moved on now and it should be about how we now get this project moving and get the groundworks moving. The damage is done in terms of access etc which I argued about at the time, but we need something in place so we go ahead with the overall plan.

Well said NAG1, 6 companies made the final tender process with their teams working on the bids for months, engaging & meeting with all stakeholders including the residents etc to make their final bid at a reasonably large cost. For those out there that feel that this project can just pic up where it left off (or just make it smaller), just like those clowns in the big house did after 3 years sitting on their arse getting paid would be mistaken.
The project will have major variants from the original successful bid design so in short it will be no doubt Jr'd by a number of the losing bid teams. So we are looking at potential exemplar design re-issued for an open bid process again. In Norn Ireland that'll probably take at least 24months etc etc etc. Riddles & Innuendo -Please

Now we would be looking at stadium hosting major events, externally and internally like:

Concerts
Belfast Feile
Ard Fheis
Ulster Championship
Major Events/Conferences
Antrim Gaa
Advice Centre  ;)
SOCCER

So where do you think Antrim Gaa are going to sit in all that? Do you really think they are taking and making decisions about most of the above! Bit of theme running through some of those potential events also :o

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 25, 2021, 01:03:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2021, 10:49:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 27, 2021, 08:52:27 PM
couple of pEople have spotted St Johns footballers training at Queens - must THink they are invisible!

Queens have no posts up, have you any photos of this or are you just hearing this?

just a wee tip for anyone thinking of training up at the Dub from this weekend on - don't. Security in place, cops will have a presence and confirmed they will be on standby to issue fines to anyone training in groups. The last thing the association needs is to give thon tr**p nolan any more ammo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 25, 2021, 07:35:39 PM
Where are these stories coming out of?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 25, 2021, 09:06:20 PM
70 million quid could get u a good really stadium. The finger needs Pulle out big timE .
Any teams caught training should b banned . Arrogance at its worst
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 27, 2021, 08:36:48 PM
good to see club champ draws on MonDay - are they seeded?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2021, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 27, 2021, 08:36:48 PM
good to see club champ draws on MonDay - are they seeded?

Were they seeded last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 27, 2021, 09:42:20 PM
I thought they seeded them after st galls ended up playing them in a preliminary round one year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on February 27, 2021, 09:51:19 PM
Do we have an agreed format for the championship this year

Oh and MR2 can't wait to see some of the calls with the new penalty rule  ;) ;), think I might start a security firm to accompany refs to and from games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 27, 2021, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 27, 2021, 09:42:20 PM
I thought they seeded them after st galls ended up playing them in a preliminary round one year.

Top 4 in league were seeded for championship., open draws. Not sure how it worked for group stage last year, but there was four groups to start with
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2021, 11:47:09 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 27, 2021, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 27, 2021, 09:42:20 PM
I thought they seeded them after st galls ended up playing them in a preliminary round one year.

Top 4 in league were seeded for championship., open draws. Not sure how it worked for group stage last year, but there was four groups to start with

No league last year so how will that be seeded?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 28, 2021, 09:26:26 AM
As far as I know last years 4 championship semi finalists are seeded. Erin's Own, Kickhams, Lamhs and Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2021, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 28, 2021, 09:26:26 AM
As far as I know last years 4 championship semi finalists are seeded. Erin's Own, Kickhams, Lamhs and Casements.

That makes sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on February 28, 2021, 11:16:44 AM
It would be great to see the seeding dropped to see these teams go to battle earlier in a round robin, never any guarantee of any team going through in the early rounds anyway and perhaps a
chance for a less 'fashionable' team to get through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2021, 11:40:47 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on February 28, 2021, 11:16:44 AM
It would be great to see the seeding dropped to see these teams go to battle earlier in a round robin, never any guarantee of any team going through in the early rounds anyway and perhaps a
chance for a less 'fashionable' team to get through

So stick Cargin Ports Lamhs and Creggan in the one group?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on February 28, 2021, 04:08:19 PM
No, leave it to the luck of the draw, on all probability that outcome is very unlikely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 02, 2021, 10:53:38 AM
Not much talk about the draws then. Anyone have the final list of teams and groups?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on March 02, 2021, 01:50:19 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/03/01/antrim-championshp-draws-2021/

There you are Jim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 02, 2021, 02:42:05 PM
Should be another good championship this year.

Cargin will rightfully be favourites again but there are a lot of teams will feel they are in with a chance.

Even the so-called mid-table teams will be no easy game for anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on March 02, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
Predictions for 2021 Championship

Senior: Cargin
Intermediate: Glenravel
Junior: Rasharkin

All South West ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 02, 2021, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on March 02, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
Predictions for 2021 Championship

Senior: Cargin
Intermediate: Glenravel
Junior: Rasharkin

All South West ;)

Can't believe Rasharkin are a junior team now. What's happened them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on March 02, 2021, 04:54:59 PM
Senior- Cargin (still have that mentality that other teams don't)
Intermediate- St Pauls (very unlucky last year not to be in the final, play some nice football)
Junior- Rasharkin (Best of the rest really and do not think St Comghall's have the b**ls to get over the line)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 03, 2021, 08:58:28 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 02, 2021, 02:42:05 PM
Should be another good championship this year.

Cargin will rightfully be favourites again but there are a lot of teams will feel they are in with a chance.

Even the so-called mid-table teams will be no easy game for anyone.

Who?
Not much evidence to be backing this up, going on recent and probably middle distance memory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 03, 2021, 10:11:59 AM
There's plenty of competition again this year. 

No doubt Creggan will be very close again. I think Lamh Dhearg and Portglenone have outsiders potential if they can find a bit more improvement on previous years.

The likes of St Galls, St Endas, St Johns and Aghagallon are certainly no pushovers and could be a match for anyone on their day.

As I said, Cargin are deserved favourites and I would expect them to retain their title but it is certainly not a foregone conclusion! Plenty to look forward to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2021, 04:17:28 PM
rossa and st johns r always good matches and tht group is very strong. Agha , £Endas and LD will all hope to get out of that grouP
Final in Corrigan this year or Casement?  :o !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 05, 2021, 04:47:37 PM
Admire chairmans optimism looking a world cup socer match in Casement when we all would settle for a southy antrim match at this stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 05, 2021, 06:06:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 05, 2021, 04:47:37 PM
Admire chairmans optimism looking a world cup socer match in Casement when we all would settle for a southy antrim match at this stage!

It's just ego from a lot of them at this stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2021, 06:12:27 PM
It's just pr nonsense at this stage. We need a Gaa stadium and are far from getting the basics right to get that. All this other stuff is peripheral.  Get it built at the right size. If they try to go too big it would take too long or may not happen and events like this would come along once in a lifetime then it would be half empty the rest of the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on March 05, 2021, 08:33:09 PM
More nonsense from McCavanagh.

From my understanding the minimum capacity required to host a world cup game is 40,000?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 05, 2021, 10:04:36 PM
Aye it's jackanory stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 19, 2021, 09:08:42 PM
Wat a lot of none sense talked about the free staters stopping the kids in the 6 counties training if they r allowed ... even croke wouldn't be that daft ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 20, 2021, 05:43:42 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 19, 2021, 09:08:42 PM
Wat a lot of none sense talked about the free staters stopping the kids in the 6 counties training if they r allowed ... even croke wouldn't be that daft ?

No chance, it would be the stupidest thing the GAA has ever done. I know there are kids who are playing other sports who will soon probably give one up in the next year or so, so if next month them kids can go play soccer or rugby but not football or hurling where do you think they are more likely to stay?

What I have to laugh at is the GAA saying they are a community organisation but give zero thought to the young people in the community up here who by law will be free to train and get back at it but the GAA are possibly gonna say no. I really can't see it. All they have to say is club action can resume in line with local government guidelines, that literally solves all the issues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2021, 08:12:35 AM
Clubs will be back training come the 12th you can have 15 training, if you've two pitches then you can have another 15, the south started before the north last year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 20, 2021, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2021, 08:12:35 AM
Clubs will be back training come the 12th you can have 15 training, if you've two pitches then you can have another 15, the south started before the north last year.

Thats it, its a load of hot air I think to suggest otherwise, hopefully games won't be too far behind but getting people back out in a team environment will be a massive lift for people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 20, 2021, 09:18:07 PM
Well lads, I dread the decision coming about returning to training and play. Don't think that Northern counties will be allowed to start before rest of Ireland.
6 into 26 won't go etc...
I believe we will have to wait or be made to wait, all Ulster/all Ireland approach will prevail despite us up North being left behind last year
Shit really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2021, 10:46:53 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 20, 2021, 09:18:07 PM
Well lads, I dread the decision coming about returning to training and play. Don't think that Northern counties will be allowed to start before rest of Ireland.
6 into 26 won't go etc...
I believe we will have to wait or be made to wait, all Ulster/all Ireland approach will prevail despite us up North being left behind last year
Shit really

So where are you getting this information?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2021, 10:24:36 AM
How can the GAA police what clubs are doing in the North. f**k them. If teams are allowed to train in the 6 counties I wouldn't be listening to the GAA. We've a 3G pitch down the road that the lads can meet up and train on if pitches are closed. Insurance is the main issue though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2021, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 21, 2021, 10:24:36 AM
How can the GAA police what clubs are doing in the North. f**k them. If teams are allowed to train in the 6 counties I wouldn't be listening to the GAA. We've a 3G pitch down the road that the lads can meet up and train on if pitches are closed. Insurance is the main issue though.

That's the only issue, insurance. Would be a daft own goal by Croke to stop clubs getting their kids and membership out playing in their pitches, but training will resume come 12th of April.

The south started before the north last time out, so good for the goose and all that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 21, 2021, 11:25:04 AM
After central council meeting yesterday
Current membership deadline  extended beyond 31st March.
Restart in North to be discussed by Covid Advisory committee next week.
PIF - loss of earnings - to be reviewed in 'near future'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 21, 2021, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2021, 10:46:53 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 20, 2021, 09:18:07 PM
Well lads, I dread the decision coming about returning to training and play. Don't think that Northern counties will be allowed to start before rest of Ireland.
6 into 26 won't go etc...
I believe we will have to wait or be made to wait, all Ulster/all Ireland approach will prevail despite us up North being left behind last year
Shit really

So where are you getting this information?

No information MR2, it's just my reading of the situation. Croke will do what's best for the southern part of Ireland. If there is no return in the 26 then I will be surprised if we can start up north.
GAA is an all island body but will suit the majority. Consequently if the South are not allowed to play then we can ask but we won't "get our ball back"
There are 10 or so southern counties that have to complete 2020 competitions and wont like us getting too far ahead.
Do any posters here have any thoughts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 21, 2021, 07:16:41 PM
If its county squads I'm not really bothered

Would be difficult to wait until June/July for club games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 21, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!

What counties are training?
The only county I have heard of training is Antrim footballers, training on a council pitch in Belfast. I hope they wise up and stop cos it threatens everyone. Very selfish act.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!

What counties are training?
The only county I have heard of training is Antrim footballers, training on a council pitch in Belfast. I hope they wise up and stop cos it threatens everyone. Very selfish act.

Was there not a thread on about team's training? Down being one? Haven't heard the Antrim one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 10:06:39 PM
A certain border county managed by a celebrity bainestior !  Unless donie came up for cheap diesel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 22, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!

What counties are training?
The only county I have heard of training is Antrim footballers, training on a council pitch in Belfast. I hope they wise up and stop cos it threatens everyone. Very selfish act.

Was there not a thread on about team's training? Down being one? Haven't heard the Antrim one.

Yes Down trained around Christmas and Paddy Tally was suspended. I believe Cork also got a suspension. Antrim footballers trained last Saturday at Cherryvale.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 22, 2021, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2021, 08:12:35 AM
Clubs will be back training come the 12th you can have 15 training, if you've two pitches then you can have another 15, the south started before the north last year.

In July last year you could section the pitch into halves and have 15 in each half..

As long as there's no shared equipment and the likes.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on March 22, 2021, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!

What counties are training?
The only county I have heard of training is Antrim footballers, training on a council pitch in Belfast. I hope they wise up and stop cos it threatens everyone. Very selfish act.

Was there not a thread on about team's training? Down being one? Haven't heard the Antrim one.

Derry been training the past 3 months. wake up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on March 22, 2021, 04:57:37 PM
Interesting to see this with England, will the North be allowed to restart given the relevant laws in our local jurisdiction

https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/316129

And, yes I know that it is the England GAA council which made the ruling and they are a different country, but believe me as someone who had a lot of dealing with Croke Park while playing in England Croke Park keep a tight rein on them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on March 22, 2021, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 22, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!

What counties are training?
The only county I have heard of training is Antrim footballers, training on a council pitch in Belfast. I hope they wise up and stop cos it threatens everyone. Very selfish act.

Was there not a thread on about team's training? Down being one? Haven't heard the Antrim one.

Yes Down trained around Christmas and Paddy Tally was suspended. I believe Cork also got a suspension. Antrim footballers trained last Saturday at Cherryvale.

Surely this is a mistake. If Antrim were to break rules, there are far better secluded locations in Antrim that could be chosen. Toome, Glenravel, Rasharkin, Ballymena, Tir Na Nog, Creggan, all have pitches that are away from the main road. Why chose a council pitch in full view of a major road. Just doesn't make sense.

Even Falls park, Woodland Park would be a better secluded locations for council pitches

Just doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2021, 09:28:45 PM
The GAA's Covid Advisory group has cleared the way for GAA club activity to resume in Northern Ireland from April 12.

Following last week's decision by the Northern Ireland executive to permit non-contact training for groups of 15 for outdoor sports, the Covid Advisory group has given the green light for adult and underage club team to start back training.

It will, in all probability, create a divergence between clubs north and south of the border as it's not expected that the same liberty will be afforded to adult club teams in the south until May.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 22, 2021, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on March 22, 2021, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 22, 2021, 10:59:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 21, 2021, 05:29:31 PM
Well a few counties are training so they'll not be too worried when the government give permission !!

What counties are training?
The only county I have heard of training is Antrim footballers, training on a council pitch in Belfast. I hope they wise up and stop cos it threatens everyone. Very selfish act.

Was there not a thread on about team's training? Down being one? Haven't heard the Antrim one.

Yes Down trained around Christmas and Paddy Tally was suspended. I believe Cork also got a suspension. Antrim footballers trained last Saturday at Cherryvale.

Surely this is a mistake. If Antrim were to break rules, there are far better secluded locations in Antrim that could be chosen. Toome, Glenravel, Rasharkin, Ballymena, Tir Na Nog, Creggan, all have pitches that are away from the main road. Why chose a council pitch in full view of a major road. Just doesn't make sense.

Even Falls park, Woodland Park would be a better secluded locations for council pitches

Just doesn't make sense

No mistake.

1. All GAA grounds are closed so those pitches you mention are not an option.
2. They trained on the rugby pitch at Cherryvale which is not seen from road or car park.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Soccer teams going hammer & tongs in the Falls Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 23, 2021, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Soccer teams going hammer & tongs in the Falls Park

The closing of GAA pitches and the prevention of training is a GAA rule, not Stormont and hence not illegal.

Training in groups unless elite sport is though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 23, 2021, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Soccer teams going hammer & tongs in the Falls Park

Are soccer teams training for next season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on March 30, 2021, 08:47:58 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Soccer teams going hammer & tongs in the Falls Park

If you are on about the aul lads in the middle of the astro god help whatever team they are still playing for!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 30, 2021, 09:06:13 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 23, 2021, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Soccer teams going hammer & tongs in the Falls Park

Are soccer teams training for next season?

could be a few of the teams playing Irish Cup, they're allowed back training now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2021, 08:16:40 PM
what about a finE for Dublin and distribute the money aming the poorer counties?  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2021, 08:27:31 PM
We get, relatively speaking, a decent amount of funding so might not work out too well for us...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 03, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
How does 12 week Ban work when no matches and not allowed to train ? Dubs must think we camE up Liffey in a bubble
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2021, 07:53:57 PM
Those without stone etc..

Happy Easter folks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 04, 2021, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 03, 2021, 07:53:57 PM
Those without stone etc..

Happy Easter folks.
where have you been TRaining?
Happy Easter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 08, 2021, 09:21:43 PM
When don club leagues start then ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2021, 10:35:49 PM
Nothing official. Just training on the 12th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 08, 2021, 09:21:43 PM
When don club leagues start then ?

Mid july from what I can read into that Croke Park Release.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Football might be a bit earlier;

8. 2021 Club Window Provisions
•   Important to note that we still do not have permission to return to club training or games yet (only training in pods of 15 allowed in the North)
•   However, calendar is set up in such a way that:
o   Club competitions with county players can take place as County teams exit the Championships (in football, teams start exiting from the end of June; in Hurling July 10th) [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   From August 1st, all Counties bar All Ireland Semi-Finalists in Football and Hurling, and the teams in the Div 1 Hurling Relegation play off, will be free to stage club competitions with county players.  [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   Additionally, the commencement of the Provincial Club Championships will be delayed until Mid-November.
o   Provinces have been requested to ensure Clubs from teams in the senior inter-county All Ireland Semi-finals and Finals will not be involved in the earliest round of the relevant Provincial Championship (where possible).
•   Senior Provincial Club Championship will most likely start in or around the weekend of Nov 20/21 (dates to be finalized by each Provincial Council).
•   All Ireland Senior Club Finals are provisionally scheduled for the weekend of February 12th/13th 2022.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 09, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Football might be a bit earlier;

8. 2021 Club Window Provisions
•   Important to note that we still do not have permission to return to club training or games yet (only training in pods of 15 allowed in the North)
•   However, calendar is set up in such a way that:
o   Club competitions with county players can take place as County teams exit the Championships (in football, teams start exiting from the end of June; in Hurling July 10th) [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   From August 1st, all Counties bar All Ireland Semi-Finalists in Football and Hurling, and the teams in the Div 1 Hurling Relegation play off, will be free to stage club competitions with county players.  [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   Additionally, the commencement of the Provincial Club Championships will be delayed until Mid-November.
o   Provinces have been requested to ensure Clubs from teams in the senior inter-county All Ireland Semi-finals and Finals will not be involved in the earliest round of the relevant Provincial Championship (where possible).
•   Senior Provincial Club Championship will most likely start in or around the weekend of Nov 20/21 (dates to be finalized by each Provincial Council).
•   All Ireland Senior Club Finals are provisionally scheduled for the weekend of February 12th/13th 2022.

thinking outside the box but does this mean we can start club league competitions WITHOUT the county players??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 09, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Football might be a bit earlier;

8. 2021 Club Window Provisions
•   Important to note that we still do not have permission to return to club training or games yet (only training in pods of 15 allowed in the North)
•   However, calendar is set up in such a way that:
o   Club competitions with county players can take place as County teams exit the Championships (in football, teams start exiting from the end of June; in Hurling July 10th) [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   From August 1st, all Counties bar All Ireland Semi-Finalists in Football and Hurling, and the teams in the Div 1 Hurling Relegation play off, will be free to stage club competitions with county players.  [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   Additionally, the commencement of the Provincial Club Championships will be delayed until Mid-November.
o   Provinces have been requested to ensure Clubs from teams in the senior inter-county All Ireland Semi-finals and Finals will not be involved in the earliest round of the relevant Provincial Championship (where possible).
•   Senior Provincial Club Championship will most likely start in or around the weekend of Nov 20/21 (dates to be finalized by each Provincial Council).
•   All Ireland Senior Club Finals are provisionally scheduled for the weekend of February 12th/13th 2022.

thinking outside the box but does this mean we can start club league competitions WITHOUT the county players??

Strange wording in that indeed looks to be pointing that direction alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 09, 2021, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 09, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Football might be a bit earlier;

8. 2021 Club Window Provisions
•   Important to note that we still do not have permission to return to club training or games yet (only training in pods of 15 allowed in the North)
•   However, calendar is set up in such a way that:
o   Club competitions with county players can take place as County teams exit the Championships (in football, teams start exiting from the end of June; in Hurling July 10th) [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   From August 1st, all Counties bar All Ireland Semi-Finalists in Football and Hurling, and the teams in the Div 1 Hurling Relegation play off, will be free to stage club competitions with county players.  [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   Additionally, the commencement of the Provincial Club Championships will be delayed until Mid-November.
o   Provinces have been requested to ensure Clubs from teams in the senior inter-county All Ireland Semi-finals and Finals will not be involved in the earliest round of the relevant Provincial Championship (where possible).
•   Senior Provincial Club Championship will most likely start in or around the weekend of Nov 20/21 (dates to be finalized by each Provincial Council).
•   All Ireland Senior Club Finals are provisionally scheduled for the weekend of February 12th/13th 2022.

thinking outside the box but does this mean we can start club league competitions WITHOUT the county players??

Strange wording in that indeed looks to be pointing that direction alright.

I think its pretty much to say club championships cant start to after, if its put to clubs that leagues to be played without county players id say most would be agreeable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2021, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 09, 2021, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 09, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Football might be a bit earlier;

8. 2021 Club Window Provisions
•   Important to note that we still do not have permission to return to club training or games yet (only training in pods of 15 allowed in the North)
•   However, calendar is set up in such a way that:
o   Club competitions with county players can take place as County teams exit the Championships (in football, teams start exiting from the end of June; in Hurling July 10th) [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   From August 1st, all Counties bar All Ireland Semi-Finalists in Football and Hurling, and the teams in the Div 1 Hurling Relegation play off, will be free to stage club competitions with county players.  [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   Additionally, the commencement of the Provincial Club Championships will be delayed until Mid-November.
o   Provinces have been requested to ensure Clubs from teams in the senior inter-county All Ireland Semi-finals and Finals will not be involved in the earliest round of the relevant Provincial Championship (where possible).
•   Senior Provincial Club Championship will most likely start in or around the weekend of Nov 20/21 (dates to be finalized by each Provincial Council).
•   All Ireland Senior Club Finals are provisionally scheduled for the weekend of February 12th/13th 2022.

thinking outside the box but does this mean we can start club league competitions WITHOUT the county players??

Strange wording in that indeed looks to be pointing that direction alright.

I think its pretty much to say club championships cant start to after, if its put to clubs that leagues to be played without county players id say most would be agreeable.

I'd say the clubs will be chumping at the bit to get this up and running regardless of county players or not... Whether its a no promotion relegation format for the league is not a problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 09, 2021, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2021, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 09, 2021, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 09, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 09, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Football might be a bit earlier;

8. 2021 Club Window Provisions
•   Important to note that we still do not have permission to return to club training or games yet (only training in pods of 15 allowed in the North)
•   However, calendar is set up in such a way that:
o   Club competitions with county players can take place as County teams exit the Championships (in football, teams start exiting from the end of June; in Hurling July 10th) [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   From August 1st, all Counties bar All Ireland Semi-Finalists in Football and Hurling, and the teams in the Div 1 Hurling Relegation play off, will be free to stage club competitions with county players.  [RESTRICTIONS PERMITTING]
o   Additionally, the commencement of the Provincial Club Championships will be delayed until Mid-November.
o   Provinces have been requested to ensure Clubs from teams in the senior inter-county All Ireland Semi-finals and Finals will not be involved in the earliest round of the relevant Provincial Championship (where possible).
•   Senior Provincial Club Championship will most likely start in or around the weekend of Nov 20/21 (dates to be finalized by each Provincial Council).
•   All Ireland Senior Club Finals are provisionally scheduled for the weekend of February 12th/13th 2022.

thinking outside the box but does this mean we can start club league competitions WITHOUT the county players??

Strange wording in that indeed looks to be pointing that direction alright.

I think its pretty much to say club championships cant start to after, if its put to clubs that leagues to be played without county players id say most would be agreeable.

I'd say the clubs will be chumping at the bit to get this up and running regardless of county players or not... Whether its a no promotion relegation format for the league is not a problem.

link the relegation to championship, clubs who haven't had a chance to win promotion last year deserve a chance at it this year but equally clubs dont deserve to be potentially relegated due to having players good enough for county unavailable, would def be workable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 09, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
There is no relegation in 2021 leagues, with promotion from lower divisions dependent on playing the majority of 1 round fixtures. In football, top 4 play offs to determine league winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 15, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
Great to see the rippling of normality coming back with kids and players back on the pitches. I think we're all ready for it, players chomping at the bit to get back to it. Should be a good and positive league and championship coming up.  Any outside contenders this year you think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2021, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 15, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
Great to see the rippling of normality coming back with kids and players back on the pitches. I think we're all ready for it, players chomping at the bit to get back to it. Should be a good and positive league and championship coming up.  Any outside contenders this year you think?

Would love to comment on predictions but not allowed  ;D

Any word on the Ulster/ All Ireland club championships? I hope these are resumed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 15, 2021, 10:22:06 AM
haven't heard, other priorities up first i'm sure. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 15, 2021, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2021, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 15, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
Great to see the rippling of normality coming back with kids and players back on the pitches. I think we're all ready for it, players chomping at the bit to get back to it. Should be a good and positive league and championship coming up.  Any outside contenders this year you think?

Would love to comment on predictions but not allowed  ;D

Any word on the Ulster/ All Ireland club championships? I hope these are resumed

Read in I N today, that Tyrone Championships are scheduled to run into the Ulster clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 15, 2021, 01:57:41 PM
As soon as matches are allowed to be played they should play the divisional championships ocahan and berringer cup etc, be a great wee start with some competitiveness to blow the cobwebs off!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 16, 2021, 03:11:22 PM
Is GaelFast back in operation Yet? or still in isolation.... kids need more than ever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2021, 06:29:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 16, 2021, 03:11:22 PM
Is GaelFast back in operation Yet? or still in isolation.... kids need more than ever

Sure you're in the know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 16, 2021, 10:05:01 PM
No haven't heard a dicky birD . Good to see u haven't lost your chaRm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2021, 02:02:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 16, 2021, 10:05:01 PM
No haven't heard a dicky birD . Good to see u haven't lost your chaRm

Why not just ask the person that was filling you in about the Gaelfast before. Be interested to hear how it's going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 17, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
Any word fo club leagues starting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 21, 2021, 02:58:57 PM
Armagh v Antrim. What are our chances of a victory.  If we are defeated is season over?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2021, 04:16:25 PM
I think that's an ok draw tbh. Honestly at the minute I think our better chances would maybe be against Fermanagh or Derry but Armagh would have been my next preference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 21, 2021, 10:22:48 PM
Armagh are nothing special and we're a Division Four team with nothing to lose. Hopefully the new management get us firing and well organised, and we can take them out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on April 23, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
So it seems competitive games can resume on May 7th, do we know if Antrim plans to kick things off for this date?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2021, 01:48:45 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on April 23, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
So it seems competitive games can resume on May 7th, do we know if Antrim plans to kick things off for this date?

Would it not be fair to have a few challenge games for the clubs to assess fitness levels and team set ups/panels? be hard just to dive straight in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 23, 2021, 04:51:05 PM
7th May official Now for real fixtures. Happy days we r off the leash ! A match a week and flexsble around subs would work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 23, 2021, 06:03:27 PM
It's only the league MR - sure Galls don't take that too seriously. Give the young lads a run out and see what they're like. Have you many county panellists who will miss out for the first batch of matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on April 23, 2021, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 23, 2021, 06:03:27 PM
It's only the league MR - sure Galls don't take that too seriously. Give the young lads a run out and see what they're like. Have you many county panellists who will miss out for the first batch of matches?

Yes milltown row let's here this retort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2021, 09:08:19 PM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on April 23, 2021, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 23, 2021, 06:03:27 PM
It's only the league MR - sure Galls don't take that too seriously. Give the young lads a run out and see what they're like. Have you many county panellists who will miss out for the first batch of matches?

Yes milltown row let's here this retort

Not at all, I'm sure Paddy has it sussed, I just don't want lads getting injured and getting the timing wrong. When you're playing in Croke you've got to get it right, ask any of those Antrim teams and they'll tell you that, peak for Ulster finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on April 23, 2021, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2021, 09:08:19 PM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on April 23, 2021, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 23, 2021, 06:03:27 PM
It's only the league MR - sure Galls don't take that too seriously. Give the young lads a run out and see what they're like. Have you many county panellists who will miss out for the first batch of matches?

Yes milltown row let's here this retort

Not at all, I'm sure Paddy has it sussed, I just don't want lads getting injured and getting the timing wrong. When you're playing in Croke you've got to get it right, ask any of those Antrim teams and they'll tell you that, peak for Ulster finals.

O milltown row bannside  side giving it to you about ur club having no county players and yet his club have no all Ireland and not even a single championship, in Kerry we would treat men like him with contempt no all Ireland's no standing to talk

And another think milltown row we don't count junior and intermediates you giving it  large last year when wait for it " Antrim hurlers won the all Ireland B " versus us and we were missing maybe 2/3 top class hurlers... sad state of affairs when a county like urs in hurling is celebrating that

We have fellas going home to tell there kids how they won 2/3/4 all Ireland's medal that's "A" have you - no lads heading home to cushnedall and the likes saying to their kids " dadddy won an all Ireland "B" title yet you let Bannside wind you and your club up, come onnnn !!

Bannside no "A" all Ireland's no standing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2021, 12:37:51 AM
We've clubs like ourselves and loughgiel who've all Ireland titles, the hurlers at county level are back were they deserve, hard work and effort gets you over the line, thinking you deserve it will get ya nothing!

Don't run down Kerry, we beat them handy this year but that's taken a huge improvement from previous years, Kerry are fortunate enough that the Kerry board are willing to put a bitta effort in behind them. They live and play in the best province, it helps through school and college level.

As for best players missing, our most influential player was missing until the final. Other potential players/panelist's were missing.

Kerry played their best available team, as did we.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2021, 08:32:36 AM
Have you many All Ireland's yourself Left Boot?

I've made my admiration for St Galls very clear over the years. Sure they are in transition mode but they have a lot of decent young players who can only improve if they get game time.

They are still firmly in the mix in Antrim but other clubs are stepping up, so competition will be greater which can only be good for Antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2021, 01:21:00 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40244966.html

Interesting article in today's Examiner. No doubt Antrim football was flourishing at the outbreak of the troubles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 25, 2021, 10:30:37 AM
smashing article and shows why we i North deserve support to get back like Gaelfast program
Given corona the term of gaelfast should be extended if its going to make a difference. Also the chief of it jumping ship hasnt helped with momentum
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 25, 2021, 08:36:57 PM
Some real characters in Antrim GAA, and the likes of Fitzy still never misses a match (club or county) and Mickey Culbert still ploughing a furlough with St Galls between hurling and football. There's a quare book in there somewhere between them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 25, 2021, 08:46:06 PM
Hopefully Gaelfast can deliver the potential it promises and if HQ see we have the capacity to deliver, they may possibly extend or enhance the programme. Antrim ( as evidenced in the above article) is indeed a massive sleeping giant and represents the biggest potential for growth strategy in the province.

We can't expect Gaelfast to deliver senior county stars. That slack must be taken up in some joined up programme that involves secondary education, co Dev squads, and by far most important, clubs taking their OWN RESPONSIBILITY for elite player pathway.

Gaelfast has a massive role in creating the passion and ambition in impressionable juveniles, and in setting up coaching and game structures in schools. Soccer has had a free run in too many schools and areas in a way that simply wouldn't be tolerated in South Derry, all of Tyrone and South Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 26, 2021, 11:02:55 AM
Guys honest opinions based on what we seen last year... want to hear your fancies for SFC,IFC and JFC. IMO this Covid malarky leaves all championships open and will come down to on the day and strength in depth of the panels. Looking forward to an exciting Antrim Championship this year and i think that our new Senior County set up will cause an upset when they meet Armangh. Hope all you gaels are well. Havnt been on as while and missed the gossip
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on April 26, 2021, 11:22:35 AM
Hi Roger good to see you back:

SFC- Cargin again hard to look past, however this could the year PG1 steps up perhaps? On a side not is/was Tony Scullion injured last season was suprised not to see him out for more games with Cargin?

IFC- This is the real tough one to call and I will go with an outsider in Glenravel

JFC- Rasharkin 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 26, 2021, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 26, 2021, 11:02:55 AM
Guys honest opinions based on what we seen last year... want to hear your fancies for SFC,IFC and JFC. IMO this Covid malarky leaves all championships open and will come down to on the day and strength in depth of the panels. Looking forward to an exciting Antrim Championship this year and i think that our new Senior County set up will cause an upset when they meet Armangh. Hope all you gaels are well. Havnt been on as while and missed the gossip

I think
Cargin SFC
Dunloy/Glenravel IFC
Rasharkin JFC

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on April 26, 2021, 02:16:08 PM
My choices:
SNR Cargin/Creggan
INT   A/Grove or Tir na nOg
Jun   Pearses/Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2021, 07:04:05 PM
Senior has to be a toss of the coin between Cargin, Creggan and Lamh Dhearg with their 23 county panellists between them.

How can anyone else compete with that?

33/1 Bar.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 26, 2021, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2021, 07:04:05 PM
Senior has to be a toss of the coin between Cargin, Creggan and Lamh Dhearg with their 23 county panellists between them.

How can anyone else compete with that?

33/1 Bar.
wat size is the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2021, 09:08:21 PM
Initial panel was around 40 though expect that to be trimmed down to regulation size. Think that might be 32 but open to correction.

It's the start of a new era, good luck to all involved. No easy league games - yet all winnable at the same time. Two outa three ain't bad would be the tune.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on April 27, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
Lad's does anyone know when Antrim CCC are publishing the fixtures for the upcoming season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 27, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
23 between 3 clubs?? il take your word for it bannside but my god where is the players at from the other clubs around the county. is our intermediate or junior footballers nowhere near the standard of county level. im not up to date with the county panel but even in years gone by i can only think of one or two lads whos clubs wernt in div1 that held down their place in a county jersey. Kevin Brady and Big Sean McVeigh in more recent years. If there are more id like to hear about them. Goes back to a debate we had on here regarding Harbinson bringing lads onto the panel who were from clubs outside the big 3/4 and that turned out not a good thing  for him. i think bannside, yourself and milltown along with a few others were advocates for that approach but would need to scroll back and see. Though with the new management doing the complete opposite it will be interesting to see how it pans out for them thats for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 27, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
23 between 3 clubs?? il take your word for it bannside but my god where is the players at from the other clubs around the county. is our intermediate or junior footballers nowhere near the standard of county level. im not up to date with the county panel but even in years gone by i can only think of one or two lads whos clubs wernt in div1 that held down their place in a county jersey. Kevin Brady and Big Sean McVeigh in more recent years. If there are more id like to hear about them. Goes back to a debate we had on here regarding Harbinson bringing lads onto the panel who were from clubs outside the big 3/4 and that turned out not a good thing  for him. i think bannside, yourself and milltown along with a few others were advocates for that approach but would need to scroll back and see. Though with the new management doing the complete opposite it will be interesting to see how it pans out for them thats for sure.

I ref'd an in house game with the new panel before lockdown, seemed a good spread of players, obviously a lot for Lamhs, Cargin, Creggan and Ports, but we didnt have that many from Creggan last year (I think) there are Moneyglass and St Brid and Glenavy players on also, We'd maybe one (Galls) and the St Endas lads were there also.

That's just off the top of my head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 27, 2021, 05:01:25 PM
it ebbs and flows.  some years the lower leagues produce some good ones, others not.  if im right there have been plenty looked at and assuming a few tight calls have been made. going by form and experience its easy to see why those 4 clubs have big representation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 27, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
23 between 3 clubs?? il take your word for it bannside but my god where is the players at from the other clubs around the county. is our intermediate or junior footballers nowhere near the standard of county level. im not up to date with the county panel but even in years gone by i can only think of one or two lads whos clubs wernt in div1 that held down their place in a county jersey. Kevin Brady and Big Sean McVeigh in more recent years. If there are more id like to hear about them. Goes back to a debate we had on here regarding Harbinson bringing lads onto the panel who were from clubs outside the big 3/4 and that turned out not a good thing  for him. i think bannside, yourself and milltown along with a few others were advocates for that approach but would need to scroll back and see. Though with the new management doing the complete opposite it will be interesting to see how it pans out for them thats for sure.

I ref'd an in house game with the new panel before lockdown, seemed a good spread of players, obviously a lot for Lamhs, Cargin, Creggan and Ports, but we didnt have that many from Creggan last year (I think) there are Moneyglass and St Brid and Glenavy players on also, We'd maybe one (Galls) and the St Endas lads were there also.

That's just off the top of my head

there are no Glenavy players on it, they all got cut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 07:12:58 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 27, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
23 between 3 clubs?? il take your word for it bannside but my god where is the players at from the other clubs around the county. is our intermediate or junior footballers nowhere near the standard of county level. im not up to date with the county panel but even in years gone by i can only think of one or two lads whos clubs wernt in div1 that held down their place in a county jersey. Kevin Brady and Big Sean McVeigh in more recent years. If there are more id like to hear about them. Goes back to a debate we had on here regarding Harbinson bringing lads onto the panel who were from clubs outside the big 3/4 and that turned out not a good thing  for him. i think bannside, yourself and milltown along with a few others were advocates for that approach but would need to scroll back and see. Though with the new management doing the complete opposite it will be interesting to see how it pans out for them thats for sure.

I ref'd an in house game with the new panel before lockdown, seemed a good spread of players, obviously a lot for Lamhs, Cargin, Creggan and Ports, but we didnt have that many from Creggan last year (I think) there are Moneyglass and St Brid and Glenavy players on also, We'd maybe one (Galls) and the St Endas lads were there also.

That's just off the top of my head

there are no Glenavy players on it, they all got cut

Ah, was that lately?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:16:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 07:12:58 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 27, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
23 between 3 clubs?? il take your word for it bannside but my god where is the players at from the other clubs around the county. is our intermediate or junior footballers nowhere near the standard of county level. im not up to date with the county panel but even in years gone by i can only think of one or two lads whos clubs wernt in div1 that held down their place in a county jersey. Kevin Brady and Big Sean McVeigh in more recent years. If there are more id like to hear about them. Goes back to a debate we had on here regarding Harbinson bringing lads onto the panel who were from clubs outside the big 3/4 and that turned out not a good thing  for him. i think bannside, yourself and milltown along with a few others were advocates for that approach but would need to scroll back and see. Though with the new management doing the complete opposite it will be interesting to see how it pans out for them thats for sure.

I ref'd an in house game with the new panel before lockdown, seemed a good spread of players, obviously a lot for Lamhs, Cargin, Creggan and Ports, but we didnt have that many from Creggan last year (I think) there are Moneyglass and St Brid and Glenavy players on also, We'd maybe one (Galls) and the St Endas lads were there also.

That's just off the top of my head

there are no Glenavy players on it, they all got cut

Ah, was that lately?

I know Paddy Gallagher has been training with the club since the return after lockdown, so I presume he was cut off the panel during it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
He was defo there the day I did the match, be surprised at him being cut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:34:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
He was defo there the day I did the match, be surprised at him being cut


so was I
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:34:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
He was defo there the day I did the match, be surprised at him being cut


so was I

Aye but they kicked you off the panel a long time ago 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 28, 2021, 12:17:01 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on April 27, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
Lad's does anyone know when Antrim CCC are publishing the fixtures for the upcoming season?

Master fixs schedule on  28th , and  actual opening fixtures on 4th / 5th May.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 28, 2021, 10:02:37 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 27, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
23 between 3 clubs?? il take your word for it bannside but my god where is the players at from the other clubs around the county. is our intermediate or junior footballers nowhere near the standard of county level. im not up to date with the county panel but even in years gone by i can only think of one or two lads whos clubs wernt in div1 that held down their place in a county jersey. Kevin Brady and Big Sean McVeigh in more recent years. If there are more id like to hear about them. Goes back to a debate we had on here regarding Harbinson bringing lads onto the panel who were from clubs outside the big 3/4 and that turned out not a good thing  for him. i think bannside, yourself and milltown along with a few others were advocates for that approach but would need to scroll back and see. Though with the new management doing the complete opposite it will be interesting to see how it pans out for them thats for sure.

The strongest football players we have are also hurlers and are also in the county senior hurling panel so it wouldn't ever work out for them to try to commit to any football panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 28, 2021, 10:19:29 AM
Who would be the strongest footballers in the county that are on the county hurling squad? the only two that i can think of that would make the football squad would be connor johnston and connor mccann. i think the rest probably dont kick ball or havnt really stood out in a footballl match that would merit a call up..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 28, 2021, 10:30:17 AM
DR is talking from a club perspective RM.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 28, 2021, 10:30:37 AM
Quote from: delgany on April 28, 2021, 12:17:01 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on April 27, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
Lad's does anyone know when Antrim CCC are publishing the fixtures for the upcoming season?

Master fixs schedule on  28th , and  actual opening fixtures on 4th / 5th May.

No relegation at all this year will make games extremely meaningless for a lot of teams this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2021, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 28, 2021, 10:19:29 AM
Who would be the strongest footballers in the county that are on the county hurling squad? the only two that i can think of that would make the football squad would be connor johnston and connor mccann. i think the rest probably dont kick ball or havnt really stood out in a footballl match that would merit a call up..

Is Nugent not a handy footballer? He has been on the panel before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on April 28, 2021, 11:25:34 AM
Can't see Nugent having the fitness level for County football, he looks laboured on the hurling pitch but his size enables him to hold men off at the level he was playing last year, will be interesting to see how that works for him with the step up this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on April 28, 2021, 11:37:42 AM
Niall McKenna would start in County Senior Football team. He is as good as footballer as he is a hurler. Was on the Football panel previously under Fitzy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 28, 2021, 11:50:10 AM
Yes sorry your right Niall McKenna is an exceptional footballer. And apologies DR i thought you were talking about the county hurlers. Didnt realise you were talking about dunloy. I saw them v Moneyglass last year and although they do have some tasty footballers its hard to say if any of them are capable of getting to that senior county level, as to be honest, they dont seem to take football that seriously or care enough about it. they can hold their own at intermediate level and thats just on sheer talent. I remember dunloy would of been up there with rossa and johnnies as the best dual clubs in antrim but football has had to take a back seat by looks of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 28, 2021, 12:09:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 27, 2021, 07:34:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
He was defo there the day I did the match, be surprised at him being cut


so was I

Aye but they kicked you off the panel a long time ago 😉

they did, but I'm back now  :-[ 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 28, 2021, 12:38:40 PM
ACHL throw in on Sat 8th
ACFL on Sun 16th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 28, 2021, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 28, 2021, 11:50:10 AM
Yes sorry your right Niall McKenna is an exceptional footballer. And apologies DR i thought you were talking about the county hurlers. Didnt realise you were talking about dunloy. I saw them v Moneyglass last year and although they do have some tasty footballers its hard to say if any of them are capable of getting to that senior county level, as to be honest, they dont seem to take football that seriously or care enough about it. they can hold their own at intermediate level and thats just on sheer talent. I remember dunloy would of been up there with rossa and johnnies as the best dual clubs in antrim but football has had to take a back seat by looks of it

Curious as to what would constitute a good dual club?
IMO winning senior championships in one code and consistently challenging in the other code at which ever level, would be a decent level. Rossa nor the Johnnies have this in either code, just wondering what they themselves would think.

Just a thought

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2021, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 28, 2021, 11:50:10 AM
Yes sorry your right Niall McKenna is an exceptional footballer. And apologies DR i thought you were talking about the county hurlers. Didnt realise you were talking about dunloy. I saw them v Moneyglass last year and although they do have some tasty footballers its hard to say if any of them are capable of getting to that senior county level, as to be honest, they dont seem to take football that seriously or care enough about it. they can hold their own at intermediate level and thats just on sheer talent. I remember dunloy would of been up there with rossa and johnnies as the best dual clubs in antrim but football has had to take a back seat by looks of it

Curious as to what would constitute a good dual club?
IMO winning senior championships in one code and consistently challenging in the other code at which ever level, would be a decent level. Rossa nor the Johnnies have this in either code, just wondering what they themselves would think.

Just a thought

So we would have been a good dual club, as would have the Johnnies back in the day along with Rossa have who won both titles with the same players back in the day. sustaining that is impossible
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on April 28, 2021, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2021, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 28, 2021, 11:50:10 AM
Yes sorry your right Niall McKenna is an exceptional footballer. And apologies DR i thought you were talking about the county hurlers. Didnt realise you were talking about dunloy. I saw them v Moneyglass last year and although they do have some tasty footballers its hard to say if any of them are capable of getting to that senior county level, as to be honest, they dont seem to take football that seriously or care enough about it. they can hold their own at intermediate level and thats just on sheer talent. I remember dunloy would of been up there with rossa and johnnies as the best dual clubs in antrim but football has had to take a back seat by looks of it

Curious as to what would constitute a good dual club?
IMO winning senior championships in one code and consistently challenging in the other code at which ever level, would be a decent level. Rossa nor the Johnnies have this in either code, just wondering what they themselves would think.

Just a thought

So we would have been a good dual club, as would have the Johnnies back in the day along with Rossa have who won both titles with the same players back in the day. sustaining that is impossible

A good dual club is one that puts genuine effort in the promotion of both codes and tries to balance the commitment for both. A dual club will have both codes competing for  honors, at the respective levels that they can compete at.

I would put Creggan, Ahoghill, Tir naNog, Rasharkin, Glenravel, Ballycastle, Ballymena, Dunloy as good dual clubs from the country
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 29, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
all good dual clubs. IMO im thinking only Creggan or Dunloy have a realistic chance of winning at both. They've certainly the commitment but one discipline from either club still has a way to go to truly 'compete'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2021, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 29, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
all good dual clubs. IMO im thinking only Creggan or Dunloy have a realistic chance of winning at both. They've certainly the commitment but one discipline from either club still has a way to go to truly 'compete'

Creggan should have at the very east 1 intermediate title with that team in fairness. One or two players on that team and it would compete really well, unfortunate against us lately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2021, 12:18:27 PM
They did win the intermediate one year did they not? (Not that long after they won AI junior)

Should be noted too on them that the team they beat in the AI junior final had the Bennet brothers and one of them is now an all star and got something like 1-11 in the AI semi final! (He was a bit younger to be fair(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 29, 2021, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2021, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 29, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
all good dual clubs. IMO im thinking only Creggan or Dunloy have a realistic chance of winning at both. They've certainly the commitment but one discipline from either club still has a way to go to truly 'compete'

Creggan should have at the very east 1 intermediate title with that team in fairness. One or two players on that team and it would compete really well, unfortunate against us lately

Yeah they're a good hurling team at that level - I was more thinking of senior championships in both codes eg slaughtneil in Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on April 29, 2021, 02:21:34 PM
Yes we won an Antrim and Ulster intermediate title in 2015 with more or less the same squad as we have now.

Over the last number of years we would have in the region of 10 starters on the football team that also start for the hurlers.

Those players could be easily plying 40 games in a 7 month period which is crazy when you think about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2021, 02:26:51 PM
I imagine the fact that your footballers are now genuine contenders has an impact. In 2015 I wouldn't have thought that you would have had a chance of winning the football now you would have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cranfield on April 29, 2021, 02:59:07 PM
Wouldn't disagree with that. If we were a single code football club I'd be confident we would have had at least one championship in the last few years.
But success isn't just measured with silverware. It also about promoting our games and providing opportunities to as many people across as many codes as we can. I think along with others we do that very well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2021, 03:45:40 PM
Yeah - very strong club and have done some improving the last 10-15 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2021, 03:58:53 PM
we haVe had st brides and st endas really advance in last ten years - would Lisburn have a chance of doing same? plenty of nationalists there now and ground is getting better any time i see it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 29, 2021, 08:37:31 PM
I'd put Aghagallon on that list too. A top six team ATM and with a good age profile and from what I hear dozens of promising juveniles going through their conveyor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2021, 09:50:48 PM
had their populaTion increased ? or just hard work?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 29, 2021, 10:51:48 PM
Been very strong in juvenile level in recent years winning lots of underage leagues in SW. Only need to be bringing two or three each year now to have strong panel of seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 30, 2021, 08:34:02 AM
yeah aghagallon have a good few underage teams and seem to be benefiting from their lads playing a good level of schools football. be interesting to see how them, st.endas and rossa do in the next few years as they seem to heave very young panels. though saying that if the same teams dont step up and make a county final atleast in the next ten years or atleast have a couple of years where they take a few scalps of the top 4, you could see alot of the promising youth maybe not come to fruition. no coincidence that, that creggan team hadnt been in a county final in 50 odd years then after their closely contested first one, they are back 2 years later in another one. alot to be said when you are in contention!

BS has portglenone much coming through the ranks? i see the county minor captain was a clubman of your own but to be honest i havnt heard much on portglenone underage. another team thats in the mix at senior level but could probably do with youth coming into that panel on a yearly basis. LD likewise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2021, 08:51:33 AM
Tradition is a big factor in teams making finals and winning them, in the past 22 years bar Lamhs win there has been 2 clubs winning it...

22 years, its a long stretch.. before that St Paul's with a couple, Rossa with one and the Johnnies with a few.

Talk of teams coming through and making the breakthrough is just talk, would be great for Antrim football if there was 6/7 teams at a level were they will knock out a fav in the first round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
The difference now though is there actually look like there are more teams capable of winning it. Cargin will drop off in the next few years as the like of Mick McCann, Crozier, Tomas McCann and a few others will eventually age and they won't have replacements as good. I still expect Cargin to likely win it but they will drop off and I don't think St Galls will be in a position to take over from that.

Creggan look like they could be a team who may miss out with that as they have a good crop now but just not quite as good as Cargin. It depends how long they hold out. It will be interesting to see how Aghagallon and even teams like Portglenone step up. Realistically still your contenders would seem to be St Johns, LD, Cargin, Creggan and then it depends whether Aghagallon and Portglenone can push on. I honestly think there should be more in St Johns than there is. I don't know if it's being a dual club or what that maybe focuses their attention less. They arguably should have won the hurling in the last number of years but may end up with neither. Now with Dunloy on the up I think football is their best chance for a senior title as Dunloy a good bit better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2021, 09:17:55 AM
In belfasT LD puzzle me . Not strong juveniles compared to Rossa st Paul's Sarsfields etc and yet far better at senior....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 30, 2021, 09:29:27 AM
LD have been in that top bracket of competing teams for several years but for how long more? Several of their central players coming to a natural end imminently and the same quality not coming through to replace. I see them being overtaken by some of the clubs mentioned above
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on April 30, 2021, 09:35:00 AM
To say that Cargin will drop off due to not having the conveyer belt coming through is a strange thought process considering they have won x2  minor championships in a row and were not remotely challenged last  year until the final. They are starting to blood these young minor players already and is likely we will see a passing of the guard in terms of 1-15 in jerseys, however old timers like the McCanns, Crozier, Scullion etc will be on the bench to give guidance and that 10 mins of experience when needed in big games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2021, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2021, 09:17:55 AM
In belfasT LD puzzle me . Not strong juveniles compared to Rossa st Paul's Sarsfields etc and yet far better at senior....

Sure they still have a load of boys who won the ulster minor club so that would surely constitute strong plus they have older hands like Micko and PC hanging round.

Apart from the big guy at FF CD they are still young and will take a few years to get to the same standard I think. Could be wrong mind... Don't get me wrong I don't mean drop off entirely I mean drop off in terms of not being as dominant. The big guy who's name escapes me (ginger haired guy) is one of the best talents I've ever seen in antrim tbh. (Since Mick McCann)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 30, 2021, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
The difference now though is there actually look like there are more teams capable of winning it. Cargin will drop off in the next few years as the like of Mick McCann, Crozier, Tomas McCann and a few others will eventually age and they won't have replacements as good. I still expect Cargin to likely win it but they will drop off and I don't think St Galls will be in a position to take over from that.

Creggan look like they could be a team who may miss out with that as they have a good crop now but just not quite as good as Cargin. It depends how long they hold out. It will be interesting to see how Aghagallon and even teams like Portglenone step up. Realistically still your contenders would seem to be St Johns, LD, Cargin, Creggan and then it depends whether Aghagallon and Portglenone can push on. I honestly think there should be more in St Johns than there is. I don't know if it's being a dual club or what that maybe focuses their attention less. They arguably should have won the hurling in the last number of years but may end up with neither. Now with Dunloy on the up I think football is their best chance for a senior title as Dunloy a good bit better.
Hard to see Cargin dropping off anytime soon, have been in contention for the last 35 years or so. Even if we didn't produce players to the exact high quality of those named we tend to integrate 2-3 young players a year onto the senior team, with two most recent minor championships this will number will only rise.
The hurling effects St Johns no doubt, but the depth of quality not there for me. Cargin and Creggan will battle it out for a place in the final and whoever wins will be strong favourites to go on and win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 30, 2021, 12:14:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2021, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 30, 2021, 09:17:55 AM
In belfasT LD puzzle me . Not strong juveniles compared to Rossa st Paul's Sarsfields etc and yet far better at senior....

Sure they still have a load of boys who won the ulster minor club so that would surely constitute strong plus they have older hands like Micko and PC hanging round.

Apart from the big guy at FF CD they are still young and will take a few years to get to the same standard I think. Could be wrong mind... Don't get me wrong I don't mean drop off entirely I mean drop off in terms of not being as dominant. The big guy who's name escapes me (ginger haired guy) is one of the best talents I've ever seen in antrim tbh. (Since Mick McCann)

Pat Shivers is the guy you're talking about id imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2021, 07:05:14 PM
Couldn't mind his name. Great talent. Kobo, crozier, McCanns etc won't be replace overnight still but shivers a good one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 30, 2021, 10:56:08 PM
Rossa could surprise a few people this year. They will definitely take their share of points and will be mid table at worst in my book.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2021, 07:04:38 PM
no word of fixtures for start of LEagues? thought they were to start this weekend Coming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 02, 2021, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2021, 07:04:38 PM
no word of fixtures for start of LEagues? thought they were to start this weekend Coming

First set of fixtures are on the antrim website ! Football leagues start  on 16th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2021, 08:32:23 PM
Thanks Delgany.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2021, 08:44:32 PM
Gaa games start on Saturday for me! Happy days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2021, 09:00:39 PM
Mrs MR will be glad too lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2021, 09:09:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2021, 09:00:39 PM
Mrs MR will be glad too lol

She will but in fairness it's good for the soul, I've loads asking to be umpires for league games! I wonder why
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 02, 2021, 10:27:19 PM
On that point MR2 and the rest of ye, do you not find it a bit farcical we cannot have a few men standing watching over the wire even though the shops and pubs can have people outside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2021, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on May 02, 2021, 10:27:19 PM
On that point MR2 and the rest of ye, do you not find it a bit farcical we cannot have a few men standing watching over the wire even though the shops and pubs can have people outside

Personally yes I agree with you, but I'm over the moon we can play games, clubs should at the minute look at streaming games to their members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 09:35:07 PM
Was there Time to fitness test the refs ? Some struggle to keep up with play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2021, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 09:35:07 PM
Was there Time to fitness test the refs ? Some struggle to keep up with play

I'd be more concerned with some of the players I've seen playing, they'd struggle to put on a jersey
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 03, 2021, 10:20:14 PM
Lads be grateful for the refs we have (MR2 included) for them over the next 10 weeks they will be asked to do maybe 3-5 games a week over all codes and ages, they will give up family time, work time and self time, for what? Men to sit here and take cheap shots at fitness etc. Belfast GAA man put your money where your mouth is and take up the whistle.

And yes:

1. Last year I did speak out of turn when Totes got the final but I took that back: and
2. I am an ex ref so my money has been where my mouth is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 10:33:50 PM
but a ref can't be subbed when not wrecked like a playeR can so they do have to b fit
We would have no sport without them so fair play to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2021, 10:37:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 10:33:50 PM
but a ref can't be subbed when not wrecked like a playeR can so they do have to b fit
We would have no sport without them so fair play to them

You're full of shit, having cheap shots at our refs, unreal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 10:39:19 PM
Just said we would have no sporT without them ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2021, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 10:39:19 PM
Just said we would have no sporT without them ?

You're questioning their fitness..

We've had beep tests every year, but now you come on at question their ability to keep up with play?

I'd like to see you carry out the beep test
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 03, 2021, 11:03:20 PM
I can't wait to shout a load of abuse at MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2021, 11:04:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 03, 2021, 11:03:20 PM
I can't wait to shout a load of abuse at MR2

No fans allowed  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 08:54:39 AM
Indeed there would not be, therefore being a constant detractor and jumping on any criticism possible is hardly the way to retain and recruit more refs

You do make a good point however, players can be subbed and often are especially as games enter extra time in championship games, why don't we give a bit of credit to those refs still up with the game at those stages

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 10:39:19 PM
Just said we would have no sporT without them ?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 04, 2021, 09:14:43 AM
Look Refs are
Needed for the sport
Do a difficult Job
R honest and fair

Nothing neGativ there

Just concerned that after such A long lay off they will b blowing out their ...... in the first Few Gsmes and will need some Slack
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 09:36:07 AM
Ok, point taken, however there will be a lot of refs who will have been looking after themselves also

As you said cut MR2 a bit of slack, I have heard whilst he may not be blowing out of his a** he certainly talks out of it  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 12:41:14 PM
Very defensive of refs on this forum. I mentioned a couple of years back something i wasnt happy about a ref doing and got completely lambasted on here for it. whilst they should be owed the most credit for their participation in our games they shouldnt be exempt from any scrutiny. Players, managers and comittees get all forms of criticism on here and opinions are shared across the board, but this notion that you cant say anything to or about a ref has to stop. reminds me of the priests in the 70s where you darent of said a word about them....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 09:36:07 AM
Ok, point taken, however there will be a lot of refs who will have been looking after themselves also

As you said cut MR2 a bit of slack, I have heard whilst he may not be blowing out of his a** he certainly talks out of it  ;) ;)

Like I said there is generally a beep test every year and those that pass will get the championship games and those that don't will not be getting those games, there is no promotion or relegation this year so the intensity will be held for the Championship and local derby games.

The rules test this year was a timed online test, 50 questions in 30 minutes with a very high pass mark required, I would assume coming closer to Championship that the Ref comm. will have us doing the beep test, the intercounty ones will have no doubt carried theirs out already.

As for keeping up with play, the ref is usually a lot closer to the play that the spectator behind the fence  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 12:48:41 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 12:41:14 PM
Very defensive of refs on this forum. I mentioned a couple of years back something i wasnt happy about a ref doing and got completely lambasted on here for it. whilst they should be owed the most credit for their participation in our games they shouldnt be exempt from any scrutiny. Players, managers and comittees get all forms of criticism on here and opinions are shared across the board, but this notion that you cant say anything to or about a ref has to stop. reminds me of the priests in the 70s where you darent of said a word about them....

Seriously? What an analogy...

Ref's are accountable and have been since we brought in assessors, their games are assessed and either feedback on the day or email sent. We could certainly do with more assessors and more assessments but games are reviewed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 12:52:46 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 12:41:14 PM
Very defensive of refs on this forum. I mentioned a couple of years back something i wasnt happy about a ref doing and got completely lambasted on here for it. whilst they should be owed the most credit for their participation in our games they shouldnt be exempt from any scrutiny. Players, managers and comittees get all forms of criticism on here and opinions are shared across the board, but this notion that you cant say anything to or about a ref has to stop. reminds me of the priests in the 70s where you darent of said a word about them....

Not my intention Rodger, my point was that there are comments and prejudices being made in respect of fitness etc, when it comes to the business end of the season it was always be a ref capable of staying with play who is appointed to the games, for the leagues etc and down the ages unfortunately I think it is a case of make the best of what we have.

When it comes to making comments on referees performances I also have no problem with these as long as they are fair and balanced, people will forget three 'easy' frees their free taker may have missed but remember the 'soft' free a ref gave to defeat them by a point, criticism is as valuable as praise as long as it is handed out in a fair, consistent and balanced manner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 04, 2021, 02:25:46 PM
The problem I have with refs, is not the individual per say, but the inconsistent application of the rules. Take the prominent Raskarkin ref who does allow more physical contact, then the up coming ref from Tir na nog who blows everything like a non contact sport. Totally frustrating. There has to be something fundamentally wrong when there is such a variance. Apparently both came through the ranks based on these assessors, like seriously. In saying that I would take the Raskarkin refs approach all day long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 02:35:21 PM
The problem may lie with the assessors, I have seen two assessment reports for two different games from Ulster for one of our inter county refs, one was saying that he was letting too much go and to blow everything early and the latter was saying the tackle must be allowed to develop more............seems a no win situation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on May 04, 2021, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 04, 2021, 02:25:46 PM
The problem I have with refs, is not the individual per say, but the inconsistent application of the rules. Take the prominent Raskarkin ref who does allow more physical contact, then the up coming ref from Tir na nog who blows everything like a non contact sport. Totally frustrating. There has to be something fundamentally wrong when there is such a variance. Apparently both came through the ranks based on these assessors, like seriously. In saying that I would take the Raskarkin refs approach all day long.

This is one thing (can debate how significant) that is holding Antrim back at the intercounty level. Our games need to be a lot more physical, but not thuggish if we are going to develop players who can handle the white hot heat of intercounty championship

Growing up we would have watched a lot of Derry and Tryone football and it was hell for leather.
When you watch an Antrim game, the intensity levels were well down.

Too picky a ref doesn't help players, too lenient and you open the door for thuggish play.

Who would want to be a ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on May 04, 2021, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 04, 2021, 02:25:46 PM
The problem I have with refs, is not the individual per say, but the inconsistent application of the rules. Take the prominent Raskarkin ref who does allow more physical contact, then the up coming ref from Tir na nog who blows everything like a non contact sport. Totally frustrating. There has to be something fundamentally wrong when there is such a variance. Apparently both came through the ranks based on these assessors, like seriously. In saying that I would take the Raskarkin refs approach all day long.

This is one thing (can debate how significant) that is holding Antrim back at the intercounty level. Our games need to be a lot more physical, but not thuggish if we are going to develop players who can handle the white hot heat of intercounty championship

Growing up we would have watched a lot of Derry and Tryone football and it was hell for leather.
When you watch an Antrim game, the intensity levels were well down.

Too picky a ref doesn't help players, too lenient and you open the door for thuggish play.

Who would want to be a ref

The players dictate the pace and style I feel. If two teams want to go at it and play within the rules then happy days, the problem is players taking a hard tackle and seeking revenge, this normal spills over and the cry is "For flip sake ref, you caused that"

Its a no win situation.

Its the referees interpretation of the rules, not the supporters or the teams or the manager who is trying to referee it from the sideline, the variance comes from a lot factors, how they see the game, how they apply the rules, how they played the game. If we stuck to the letter of the law in relation to the rules the the consistency will be there, it would also be basically a non contact sport with not too many players at the end of the game ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 03:10:58 PM
The thing I have always struggled with is the notion of a 'soft free', if a player is fouled by say a tug of the jersey and slowed down should this not be a free or is the ref being too picky? Does a man have to be half maimed for a free? As MR2 said al too often a ref is perceived to have caused an injury due to not being in control, therefore where is the line drawn?

@Dunsilly King, it is interesting that you have chose two SW referees for your example of evil v good, have they wronged you or your club or something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 03:17:51 PM
MR2 please dont take it as i was comparing refs to priests of the 70's.  ;D Absolutely not, i was just remarking on the forums sensitivity, to any statements made regarding refs. thats all. It all adds to the banter after all

One point to make on the whole situation though from my own perspective. Obviously its a thankless job and thats reflected by the now demand we have for refs in the county. But we have now players and managers at club level who now train 4-6 nights a week between gym and s&c sessions and a total shift to a more professional environment. 10 years ago nobody would have seen the huge transformation in our games and the effort it takes to participate at any grade of senior level. There are Irish league teams/players not doing near what gaa clubs/players are doing training wise. So i think its fair when people are asking and raising concerns about the fitness of refs especially at senior level as the reffing needs to be in line with the damands of the modern game. I know from watching games around the county and seeing what goes on, thats not the case in some occasions. Overall we have more good refs than not so good. There are refs who wouldnt get a senior game in other counties due to fitness levels, age and theirimplementation of the rules. Now on the same breathe i would never name these people or try to belittle them individually as i take my hat off for stepping up when no one else does but its defintely an elephant in the room scenario that people arent keen on talking about.

Before i get the "put your name forward before saying that about men out trying their best" comments, let me just say i know myself i would make a horrible ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 03:17:51 PM
MR2 please dont take it as i was comparing refs to priests of the 70's.  ;D Absolutely not, i was just remarking on the forums sensitivity, to any statements made regarding refs. thats all. It all adds to the banter after all

One point to make on the whole situation though from my own perspective. Obviously its a thankless job and thats reflected by the now demand we have for refs in the county. But we have now players and managers at club level who now train 4-6 nights a week between gym and s&c sessions and a total shift to a more professional environment. 10 years ago nobody would have seen the huge transformation in our games and the effort it takes to participate at any grade of senior level. There are Irish league teams/players not doing near what gaa clubs/players are doing training wise. So i think its fair when people are asking and raising concerns about the fitness of refs especially at senior level as the reffing needs to be in line with the damands of the modern game. I know from watching games around the county and seeing what goes on, thats not the case in some occasions. Overall we have more good refs than not so good. There are refs who wouldnt get a senior game in other counties due to fitness levels, age and theirimplementation of the rules. Now on the same breathe i would never name these people or try to belittle them individually as i take my hat off for stepping up when no one else does but its defintely an elephant in the room scenario that people arent keen on talking about.

Before i get the "put your name forward before saying that about men out trying their best" comments, let me just say i know myself i would make a horrible ref

No all comments are fine and we've younger ref's coming through who are wanting to push up the ladder and do intercounty and so on, fitness levels is important and keeping up to the modern players is difficult but I know of at least 10/12 lads that have decent enough fitness levels that are not intercounty.

We won't get every call and even the fittest ref can't be in the ruck of players and seeing everything, but he'll do his best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 04, 2021, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 03:17:51 PM
MR2 please dont take it as i was comparing refs to priests of the 70's.  ;D Absolutely not, i was just remarking on the forums sensitivity, to any statements made regarding refs. thats all. It all adds to the banter after all

One point to make on the whole situation though from my own perspective. Obviously its a thankless job and thats reflected by the now demand we have for refs in the county. But we have now players and managers at club level who now train 4-6 nights a week between gym and s&c sessions and a total shift to a more professional environment. 10 years ago nobody would have seen the huge transformation in our games and the effort it takes to participate at any grade of senior level. There are Irish league teams/players not doing near what gaa clubs/players are doing training wise. So i think its fair when people are asking and raising concerns about the fitness of refs especially at senior level as the reffing needs to be in line with the damands of the modern game. I know from watching games around the county and seeing what goes on, thats not the case in some occasions. Overall we have more good refs than not so good. There are refs who wouldnt get a senior game in other counties due to fitness levels, age and theirimplementation of the rules. Now on the same breathe i would never name these people or try to belittle them individually as i take my hat off for stepping up when no one else does but its defintely an elephant in the room scenario that people arent keen on talking about.

Before i get the "put your name forward before saying that about men out trying their best" comments, let me just say i know myself i would make a horrible ref

No all comments are fine and we've younger ref's coming through who are wanting to push up the ladder and do intercounty and so on, fitness levels is important and keeping up to the modern players is difficult but I know of at least 10/12 lads that have decent enough fitness levels that are not intercounty.

We won't get every call and even the fittest ref can't be in the ruck of players and seeing everything, but he'll do his best

MR2 10/12 lads is just not not enough in a county the size of ours and the number of games to be played in both codes, and yes some younger lads are coming through. However a lot of lads and I do know this fail the written tests regular as well as the bleep test. You referred to it on previous posts, what is the test as there are a few and what is the level that has to be attained. The reason I ask is that lads are committing 4-5 nights a week to play only, referees are paid now and for those who are popular or are naturally good referees walk away at the end of the year with a tidy sum or half yearly, and yes that could mean 30+ games but thats their choice after all. So to be fair clubs and players should expect their officials to be fit enough to see a game through 60 minutes. I remember Ray Matthews, Owen Elliott, Garrett Duffy , Eamon Hasson all training through the winter/christmas to pass a bleep test and exams for years. Where did these lads go all of a sudden, Elliott referees in Derry why not Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 08:07:30 PM
We've about 10/12 refs that our intercounty so they have their own standard to meet, the criteria for club refereeing is slightly less in terms of the beep test, we do one and I think inter county do two, their pass rate for rules test again is higher, ours is 85 I think, this year was online, so you fail you can't referee.

As for fitness I said outside of our inter county ref's we've about 10/12 thst are at a decent level of fitness, I'd say better than mine. So that could be over 20/24 refs up to a level of fitness set down by Croke park!

I've done the beep test several years, it's hard, and again I would consider myself fit (for 49)

As god the expenses, what do you recommend? Nothing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 04, 2021, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 04, 2021, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on May 04, 2021, 03:17:51 PM
MR2 please dont take it as i was comparing refs to priests of the 70's.  ;D Absolutely not, i was just remarking on the forums sensitivity, to any statements made regarding refs. thats all. It all adds to the banter after all

One point to make on the whole situation though from my own perspective. Obviously its a thankless job and thats reflected by the now demand we have for refs in the county. But we have now players and managers at club level who now train 4-6 nights a week between gym and s&c sessions and a total shift to a more professional environment. 10 years ago nobody would have seen the huge transformation in our games and the effort it takes to participate at any grade of senior level. There are Irish league teams/players not doing near what gaa clubs/players are doing training wise. So i think its fair when people are asking and raising concerns about the fitness of refs especially at senior level as the reffing needs to be in line with the damands of the modern game. I know from watching games around the county and seeing what goes on, thats not the case in some occasions. Overall we have more good refs than not so good. There are refs who wouldnt get a senior game in other counties due to fitness levels, age and theirimplementation of the rules. Now on the same breathe i would never name these people or try to belittle them individually as i take my hat off for stepping up when no one else does but its defintely an elephant in the room scenario that people arent keen on talking about.

Before i get the "put your name forward before saying that about men out trying their best" comments, let me just say i know myself i would make a horrible ref

No all comments are fine and we've younger ref's coming through who are wanting to push up the ladder and do intercounty and so on, fitness levels is important and keeping up to the modern players is difficult but I know of at least 10/12 lads that have decent enough fitness levels that are not intercounty.

We won't get every call and even the fittest ref can't be in the ruck of players and seeing everything, but he'll do his best

MR2 10/12 lads is just not not enough in a county the size of ours and the number of games to be played in both codes, and yes some younger lads are coming through. However a lot of lads and I do know this fail the written tests regular as well as the bleep test. You referred to it on previous posts, what is the test as there are a few and what is the level that has to be attained. The reason I ask is that lads are committing 4-5 nights a week to play only, referees are paid now and for those who are popular or are naturally good referees walk away at the end of the year with a tidy sum or half yearly, and yes that could mean 30+ games but thats their choice after all. So to be fair clubs and players should expect their officials to be fit enough to see a game through 60 minutes. I remember Ray Matthews, Owen Elliott, Garrett Duffy , Eamon Hasson all training through the winter/christmas to pass a bleep test and exams for years. Where did these lads go all of a sudden, Elliott referees in Derry why not Antrim?

Eamon Hassan is Derry man so why did he ref in Antrim and not Derry?

Matthews & Duffy left after the "incident" in Ballymena along with Garreth Brown from Glenravel. Herbie McAuley from Glenravel was a decent ref and he left to work away, Yer man Kelly from the Johnnies was a decent ref also. McCotter from Sarsfields, his first name escapes me. We always had a core of decent refs but just not enough and that's going back to the days of Tommy McIntyre, Eugene McHugh, Ger Robinson and Jim Murray. I think the problem is that when they retire there is nothing coming behind them to take over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 06:17:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2021, 08:07:30 PM
We've about 10/12 refs that our intercounty so they have their own standard to meet, the criteria for club refereeing is slightly less in terms of the beep test, we do one and I think inter county do two, their pass rate for rules test again is higher, ours is 85 I think, this year was online, so you fail you can't referee.

As for fitness I said outside of our inter county ref's we've about 10/12 thst are at a decent level of fitness, I'd say better than mine. So that could be over 20/24 refs up to a level of fitness set down by Croke park!

I've done the beep test several years, it's hard, and again I would consider myself fit (for 49)

As god the expenses, what do you recommend? Nothing?
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Did i say I had an issue with expenses MR2? Wanna read it again? My point is that clubs through their contributions to the county help cover in some way those payments, so the least they should expect is a referee who is fit for purpose, simple enough. There's no cheap shots here!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 07:34:20 AM
You brought in that the refs make a tidy sum, it's not a wage and any one who's doing it for that reason is doing it for the wrong reason.

Nothing would pay your enough to take abuse.

You say clubs are training 4/5 nights a week ( excessive) and you want a ref to match that? You know majority of refs are retired players? The next time the refs do the bleep test come up, I'll run along side you.

As for reading posts again you obviously read mine completely wrong and got your numbers all mixed up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 10:25:06 AM
U r all very NEgative!
if county isnt playing can the county players play for their club that day???????????????????/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 05, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 10:25:06 AM
U r all very NEgative!
if county isnt playing can the county players play for their club that day???????????????????/
County players are unavailable to they exit thei USF championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 05, 2021, 11:18:59 AM
whatwillbwillb, only one one to solve this from your point of view, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem:

https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/are-you-interested-in-becoming-an-antrim-gaa-referee

Looking forward to seeing you start the revolution and make the county better through your contributions as a ref, oh and get new car shopping I am sure a new Land Rover won't be out of reach with all those expenses you'll be coining in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?

Right, as someone who was involved in that incident, and someone who knows MR1 personally, I'm going to ask you all to back off. What he is saying is right and has a lot of merit, but so are a lot of your points.
There are some refs who want to push themselves to get Senior games and some who are happy just getting out of the house, just as some players want to win championships and some know they will never reach those heights and just look forward to having a game. Not everyone is the same.
As for digging up old ground from 10 years ago, let it go lad, nothing is going to get sorted out on this website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?

Right, as someone who was involved in that incident, and someone who knows MR1 personally, I'm going to ask you all to back off. What he is saying is right and has a lot of merit, but so are a lot of your points.
There are some refs who want to push themselves to get Senior games and some who are happy just getting out of the house, just as some players want to win championships and some know they will never reach those heights and just look forward to having a game. Not everyone is the same.
As for digging up old ground from 10 years ago, let it go lad, nothing is going to get sorted out on this website.

Totally Agree Tyrdub, MR2 always likes to take the aggressive approach, some on the board have been around a little longer and some have held positions he'll never hold within the County, Province, & National  even if he wanted, a little or lack of knowledge can dangerous in the wrong hands!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?

Right, as someone who was involved in that incident, and someone who knows MR1 personally, I'm going to ask you all to back off. What he is saying is right and has a lot of merit, but so are a lot of your points.
There are some refs who want to push themselves to get Senior games and some who are happy just getting out of the house, just as some players want to win championships and some know they will never reach those heights and just look forward to having a game. Not everyone is the same.
As for digging up old ground from 10 years ago, let it go lad, nothing is going to get sorted out on this website.

Totally Agree Tyrdub, MR2 always likes to take the aggressive approach, some on the board have been around a little longer and some have held positions he'll never hold within the County, Province, & National  even if he wanted, a little or lack of knowledge can dangerous in the wrong hands!

Sorry lad, but youre just stirring it now. He has been there and done it, hes one of the best. I'm not going to comment on what aspirations he may or may not have, all I know is hes a bloody good ref, who has never let us down, allays available when needed unlike lots of others who just want to stand and shout over a fence when the notion takes them.
Give over lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?

Right, as someone who was involved in that incident, and someone who knows MR1 personally, I'm going to ask you all to back off. What he is saying is right and has a lot of merit, but so are a lot of your points.
There are some refs who want to push themselves to get Senior games and some who are happy just getting out of the house, just as some players want to win championships and some know they will never reach those heights and just look forward to having a game. Not everyone is the same.
As for digging up old ground from 10 years ago, let it go lad, nothing is going to get sorted out on this website.

Totally Agree Tyrdub, MR2 always likes to take the aggressive approach, some on the board have been around a little longer and some have held positions he'll never hold within the County, Province, & National  even if he wanted, a little or lack of knowledge can dangerous in the wrong hands!

Sorry lad, but youre just stirring it now. He has been there and done it, hes one of the best. I'm not going to comment on what aspirations he may or may not have, all I know is hes a bloody good ref, who has never let us down, allays available when needed unlike lots of others who just want to stand and shout over a fence when the notion takes them.
Give over lad

Again did anyone say he wasn't capable or not committed, just like the rest of us Tyrdub no different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?

Right, as someone who was involved in that incident, and someone who knows MR1 personally, I'm going to ask you all to back off. What he is saying is right and has a lot of merit, but so are a lot of your points.
There are some refs who want to push themselves to get Senior games and some who are happy just getting out of the house, just as some players want to win championships and some know they will never reach those heights and just look forward to having a game. Not everyone is the same.
As for digging up old ground from 10 years ago, let it go lad, nothing is going to get sorted out on this website.

Totally Agree Tyrdub, MR2 always likes to take the aggressive approach, some on the board have been around a little longer and some have held positions he'll never hold within the County, Province, & National  even if he wanted, a little or lack of knowledge can dangerous in the wrong hands!

Sorry lad, but youre just stirring it now. He has been there and done it, hes one of the best. I'm not going to comment on what aspirations he may or may not have, all I know is hes a bloody good ref, who has never let us down, allays available when needed unlike lots of others who just want to stand and shout over a fence when the notion takes them.
Give over lad

Again did anyone say he wasn't capable or not committed, just like the rest of us Tyrdub no different

brick wall, conversation over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2021, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 09:35:07 PM
Was there Time to fitness test the refs ? Some struggle to keep up with play

See what you've started !!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 05, 2021, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on May 04, 2021, 03:10:58 PM
The thing I have always struggled with is the notion of a 'soft free', if a player is fouled by say a tug of the jersey and slowed down should this not be a free or is the ref being too picky? Does a man have to be half maimed for a free? As MR2 said al too often a ref is perceived to have caused an injury due to not being in control, therefore where is the line drawn?

@Dunsilly King, it is interesting that you have chose two SW referees for your example of evil v good, have they wronged you or your club or something?


No, just two good examples of very contrasting styles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2021, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2021, 09:35:07 PM
Was there Time to fitness test the refs ? Some struggle to keep up with play

See what you've started !!
do the assessors get paid? plenty of them ! LOI
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:41:34 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2021, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 05, 2021, 08:17:27 AM
Totes & Paddy would be proud of ya, I know they reads this regularly and actually had to warn lads about posting too! No fear here of a bleep test MR2, always on the defensive, they do make a tidy sum spoke to many a lad who's honest enough to disclose their expenses. Didn't say he/she had to match that again you see what you wanna see, you should maybe listen the odd time, thats your game after all!!! Lol. :D As for numbers all wrong please

So you should go unchecked?

So I'll ask again, what is it you expect from the refs? As they are already meeting the criteria set down from Croke Park

Lack of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Look at some of the names mentioned above and 'incidents' that they have been involved in. Then look at the support they received or more importantly didnt receive around these incidents and you wonder why they walk away from the game completely. How many times did the county (various administrations) end up shafting these guys in favour of not properly punishing clubs?

There is more a problem on how the refs get treated and then we wonder why there is a shortage. Not rocket science lads.

My sentiments exactly NAG1, MR2 unchecked for what, get down off that high horse you're on, facts are facts, you like to make things personal, may impress the Refs committee after you where gagged previously and towed the line,  but theres enough gaels on this board that can go back further than you and were closer to situations.  NAG1 is spot on what went on around the Ray Matthews situation was scandalous and the support was non-existent from Clubs or County, never mind the family and its experience of it! Crokes criteria now theres a laugh and a half, speaks someone with no experience of dealing with Croke. As NAG1 says Elliott for example referees in Derry, done umteen Derry County Hurling Finals, All Ireland Camogie Finals, sits on Referees National Committee at CROKE PARK, referees county and provincial camogie- Why is he not still in Antrim?

Right, as someone who was involved in that incident, and someone who knows MR1 personally, I'm going to ask you all to back off. What he is saying is right and has a lot of merit, but so are a lot of your points.
There are some refs who want to push themselves to get Senior games and some who are happy just getting out of the house, just as some players want to win championships and some know they will never reach those heights and just look forward to having a game. Not everyone is the same.
As for digging up old ground from 10 years ago, let it go lad, nothing is going to get sorted out on this website.

Totally Agree Tyrdub, MR2 always likes to take the aggressive approach, some on the board have been around a little longer and some have held positions he'll never hold within the County, Province, & National  even if he wanted, a little or lack of knowledge can dangerous in the wrong hands!

Oh dear god!

As for the aggressive stuff that's all you. There is generally nothing positive that you post, and if someone is not ref'ing anymore in the county go asked them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 06, 2021, 11:53:56 AM
Speaking of referees, is it true that Clooney Gaels have lost their home advantage for the year for failure to provide a club referee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 06, 2021, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on May 06, 2021, 11:53:56 AM
Speaking of referees, is it true that Clooney Gaels have lost their home advantage for the year for failure to provide a club referee?

Glenarriffe are the same I'm told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on May 06, 2021, 12:48:16 PM
Ah sure here I can't understand why clubs can gets refs out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2021, 01:44:27 PM
Tyrdub, curious as you where present at said incident, did you sign a statement for the referee at the time?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 06, 2021, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2021, 01:44:27 PM
Tyrdub, curious as you where present at said incident, did you sign a statement for the referee at the time?  ;)

why?
what relevance is it to you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 06, 2021, 03:58:56 PM
When can we get back to the Culchie Vs Chip eaters debate? This ref stuff is boring. Unless we do the Culchie refs V the City refs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2021, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 06, 2021, 03:58:56 PM
When can we get back to the Culchie Vs Chip eaters debate? This ref stuff is boring. Unless we do the Culchie refs V the City refs!

Close call in that  :)

SW domination again I fear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 06, 2021, 06:47:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2021, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 06, 2021, 03:58:56 PM
When can we get back to the Culchie Vs Chip eaters debate? This ref stuff is boring. Unless we do the Culchie refs V the City refs!

Close call in that  :)

SW domination again I fear

I dunno.. at least we might get some sense talked..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2021, 07:10:46 PM
is the county paneL secret? or have i just missed it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 06, 2021, 07:41:20 PM
Pretty sure it hasn't been announced yet. 10 days until we play Louth, so I'd say the white smoke will emerge soon. Lets get behind them from the start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 07, 2021, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2021, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2021, 01:44:27 PM
Tyrdub, curious as you where present at said incident, did you sign a statement for the referee at the time?  ;)

why?
what relevance is it to you?

Well you were quiet candid in your declaration that you where involved in the incident and showing support for referee/referees. A number of investigations took place, Ray allegedly did reach out to a lot of people to support him that were there on the day including other officials in relation to personal statements, including those to the local PSNI and but a few i believe actually stepped up? The lad was left hanging in the wind, Duffy on the back of that allegedly was asked by a local media platform in an interview would he encourage people to referee and because he said "no" in the present climate he was supposedly suspended by some of the people who presently seek to promote new referees within the county? Historical it may be but it goes to the heart of the issue, when your backs to the wall in doing what looks like thankless task a lot of the time, who can you rely on to support you if common incidents such as this continue, thankfully not a severe as the Ballymena incident? Matthews, Elliott, Duffy all successful National and AI Officials were all there on the day I believe and the fact that these lads are all still actively refereeing in the Gaa but not in Antrim Hurling & Football what does that say?  We cannot get Referees in Antrim, so is the Role, People in these Committee's, County Approach, Support or as it seems to be " Just Lip Service" As a Gael in Antrim i feel its sufficiently relevant .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 08, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
Who has won most ANtim championships 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2021, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 08, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
Who has won most ANtim championships

Johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2021, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2021, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 08, 2021, 10:56:58 PM
Who has won most ANtim championships

Johnnies
Would Cargin be anywhere close to catching them? dont think so myselfh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 08:47:52 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antrim_Senior_Football_Championship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antrim_Senior_Football_Championship)

In short no...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2021, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 05, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 10:25:06 AM
U r all very NEgative!
if county isnt playing can the county players play for their club that day???????????????????/
County players are unavailable to they exit thei USF championship
so the lad in the CounTy panel who isnt getting on and getting no game time will go months without a match . Remember panel can b 30 plus so I could see some boys quitting county panel just to Get games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 10, 2021, 07:44:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2021, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 05, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 10:25:06 AM
U r all very NEgative!
if county isnt playing can the county players play for their club that day???????????????????/
County players are unavailable to they exit thei USF championship
so the lad in the CounTy panel who isnt getting on and getting no game time will go months without a match . Remember panel can b 30 plus so I could see some boys quitting county panel just to Get games

County Manager usually let fringe players play club games for game time, although with no relegation in league football, there is less pressure to do so in 2021
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 10, 2021, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 10, 2021, 07:44:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2021, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 05, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 10:25:06 AM
U r all very NEgative!
if county isnt playing can the county players play for their club that day???????????????????/
County players are unavailable to they exit thei USF championship
so the lad in the CounTy panel who isnt getting on and getting no game time will go months without a match . Remember panel can b 30 plus so I could see some boys quitting county panel just to Get games

County Manager usually let fringe players play club games for game time, although with no relegation in league football, there is less pressure to do so in 2021
thought u were saying they cant now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 10, 2021, 05:28:42 PM
 :'(
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 10, 2021, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 10, 2021, 07:44:35 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 09, 2021, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 05, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 05, 2021, 10:25:06 AM
U r all very NEgative!
if county isnt playing can the county players play for their club that day???????????????????/
County players are unavailable to they exit thei USF championship
so the lad in the CounTy panel who isnt getting on and getting no game time will go months without a match . Remember panel can b 30 plus so I could see some boys quitting county panel just to Get games

County Manager usually let fringe players play club games for game time, although with no relegation in league football, there is less pressure to do so in 2021
thought u were saying they cant now?

Fringe players are there  for a reason, your first 24 players wont be playing club games to championship is over  on / after 4th July . The fringe players may well get club games during National League as you can only have a panel of 24 on match days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 12, 2021, 02:31:09 PM
Any news on the county panel?

Is everyone fit and available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 13, 2021, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 12, 2021, 02:31:09 PM
Any news on the county panel?

Is everyone fit and available?
It as secretive as a DUP leadership contest!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 14, 2021, 09:04:30 AM
You'll know something at 5 today to keep you interested
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 14, 2021, 03:36:41 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/05/14/antrim-name-team-to-play-louth/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
The team has been announced.
Good luck lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 14, 2021, 05:14:49 PM
Looks strong team all righT. I hear small has a big future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 14, 2021, 07:21:18 PM
Is that Justin Crozier in the subs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Unlikely that's either the stating team or even positional team. I'll wait till I see who lines out tomorrow before casting judgement. Good luck to everyone, start of a new era.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2021, 07:36:43 PM
Yes Brendan. Justy is back and great to see. Also Niall Mc Keever back in the fold. Gives us more options.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2021, 08:16:07 PM
Good to see Crozier back. Always wondered what happened to Kevin small. When I saw him at minor he was probably the best I have seen play for Antrim at that level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 14, 2021, 10:18:17 PM
Yeah - I remember a minor championship match v Fermanagh, he was unplayable. It was brilliant to watch. Fingers crossed for tomorrow. A win would be brilliant, feed into the feel good factor following the hurlers massive win last week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on May 15, 2021, 12:45:26 AM
Interesting game many of them lads have an all Ireland medal with galls?? Mc bride??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 15, 2021, 01:18:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2021, 08:16:07 PM
Good to see Crozier back. Always wondered what happened to Kevin small. When I saw him at minor he was probably the best I have seen play for Antrim at that level.

Liam Quinn too. Outstanding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 12:48:09 PM
25 euro for a Gaa go pass to all the league is pretty good. I was expecting to have to pay 5 euro for every Antrim game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 15, 2021, 12:58:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 12:48:09 PM
25 euro for a Gaa go pass to all the league is pretty good. I was expecting to have to pay 5 euro for every Antrim game.
paid 49 euro to get all the games, including those being shown on Eir sport. the 25euro version doesn't include these ones
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 01:14:29 PM
Ah. Good to know. I don't watch that many matches at the minute but hope to get at least the Antrim ones out of it anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 01:14:29 PM
Ah. Good to know. I don't watch that many matches at the minute but hope to get at least the Antrim ones out of it anyway.

Football league fixtures out tomorrow, games start at 2pm, Antrim v Kilkenny 1.30pm!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Solo_run on May 15, 2021, 03:34:10 PM
That was never a penalty in the Louth game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 03:44:01 PM
Black card a blatant free to Antrim too >:(

Playing not too bad. Two evenly matched teams. Louth are clearly a Mickey Harte team with the men they funnel back. At the minute I think they are a bit better at finding/creating space for scores but we are very much in this. McCann a big miss but loughran doing not too badly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 15, 2021, 04:46:02 PM
Thank God for the final whistle.. Too much anxiety today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 04:46:54 PM
Good win and deserved win too. Ryan Murray didn't get much protection from the ref in that game. Great winning point from him and great one from Cunningham. Stewart a good one and Mcaleese had a great game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 04:52:30 PM
Brilliant win for all involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 15, 2021, 05:43:09 PM
Great win and comeback

Ref rode us ...never a penalty and never an overcarry by Stewart prior to the 3rd Louth goal...never mind the Murray Black card

Great composure to come back and win. Sweet one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 15, 2021, 05:43:09 PM
Great win and comeback

Ref rode us ...never a penalty and never an overcarry by Stewart prior to the 3rd Louth goal...never mind the Murray Black card

Great composure to come back and win. Sweet one

We lost these close games in the past, let's hope this is a positive trend going forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 06:12:20 PM
we seem to have all the best playets playing now - happy days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 06:12:20 PM
we seem to have all the best playets playing now - happy days

Good to have you happy for a change
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 06:12:20 PM
we seem to have all the best playets playing now - happy days

Good to have you happy for a change
it won't last when I see antrim club referres in action
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 15, 2021, 08:43:16 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 06:12:20 PM
we seem to have all the best playets playing now - happy days

Good to have you happy for a change
it won't last when I see antrim club referres in action

The ref in Louth, tried his best for them today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 08:53:23 PM
Yes like playing agin 16 . Those st Endas lads r serious players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2021, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 08:53:23 PM
Yes like playing agin 16 . Those st Endas lads r serious players

Learned their trade playing in the South West leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
Not too long home, great to come out on right side of a dog fight for a change. Lots to build on with starting and panel places at premium demand level. Ricky, Sweeney, Mick, Tomas, Justy, Paddy Mc Cormack, etc didn't figure today for different reasons and bar four or five nailed on positions, the rest are up for grabs. That's the way it should be!

While everyone involved can hold their heads up, for me special plaudits go to Ryan Murray who played like his life depended on it, welcome to the party Conor Stewart, and my personal MOTM captain Peter Healy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 15, 2021, 06:12:20 PM
we seem to have all the best playets playing now - happy days

Good to have you happy for a change
it won't last when I see antrim club referres in action

Course starts soon , so raise the standards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 16, 2021, 12:02:20 AM
Ryan Murray was incredible today. Healy great too.

Sometimes we are over cautious, lateral handpassing that leads to turnovers ....we don't take men on enough for me.

We could've beat them by 10...just need the belief to blow teams away (and a ref who doesn't keep the other side in it)

Sweet, sweet start. Well done lads

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2021, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 15, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
Not too long home, great to come out on right side of a dog fight for a change. Lots to build on with starting and panel places at premium demand level. Ricky, Sweeney, Mick, Tomas, Justy, Paddy Mc Cormack, etc didn't figure today for different reasons and bar four or five nailed on positions, the rest are up for grabs. That's the way it should be!

While everyone involved can hold their heads up, for me special plaudits go to Ryan Murray who played like his life depended on it, welcome to the party Conor Stewart, and my personal MOTM captain Peter Healy.

What you mean you're not too long home
Specrators aren't allowed !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 16, 2021, 12:41:56 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2021, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 15, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
Not too long home, great to come out on right side of a dog fight for a change. Lots to build on with starting and panel places at premium demand level. Ricky, Sweeney, Mick, Tomas, Justy, Paddy Mc Cormack, etc didn't figure today for different reasons and bar four or five nailed on positions, the rest are up for grabs. That's the way it should be!

While everyone involved can hold their heads up, for me special plaudits go to Ryan Murray who played like his life depended on it, welcome to the party Conor Stewart, and my personal MOTM captain Peter Healy.

What you mean you're not too long home
Specrators aren't allowed !

Exactly what I was thinking ;D...share your tips Bannside and I might try to sneak into Nowlan Park tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2021, 01:08:54 AM
If players have to get to these grounds on their own he was probably driving players down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 16, 2021, 04:34:35 AM
Club leagues start today, let the show begin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2021, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 16, 2021, 12:41:56 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2021, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 15, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
Not too long home, great to come out on right side of a dog fight for a change. Lots to build on with starting and panel places at premium demand level. Ricky, Sweeney, Mick, Tomas, Justy, Paddy Mc Cormack, etc didn't figure today for different reasons and bar four or five nailed on positions, the rest are up for grabs. That's the way it should be!

While everyone involved can hold their heads up, for me special plaudits go to Ryan Murray who played like his life depended on it, welcome to the party Conor Stewart, and my personal MOTM captain Peter Healy.

What you mean you're not too long home
Specrators aren't allowed !

Exactly what I was thinking ;D...share your tips Bannside and I might try to sneak into Nowlan Park tomorrow!!

Me too ;D there were some spectators there- or it looked like that anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2021, 08:05:44 PM
The amount of clubs that have had spectators in the games so far has been quite a lot! The St Endas Aghagallon game had a load in and reports on the saffron Gael have show a lot also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2021, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2021, 08:05:44 PM
The amount of clubs that have had spectators in the games so far has been quite a lot! The St Endas Aghagallon game had a load in and reports on the saffron Gael have show a lot also.

Did you honestly think it would be anything else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2021, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2021, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2021, 08:05:44 PM
The amount of clubs that have had spectators in the games so far has been quite a lot! The St Endas Aghagallon game had a load in and reports on the saffron Gael have show a lot also.

Did you honestly think it would be anything else

Aye I knew it would be like that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on May 17, 2021, 07:27:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2021, 08:05:44 PM
The amount of clubs that have had spectators in the games so far has been quite a lot! The St Endas Aghagallon game had a load in and reports on the saffron Gael have show a lot also.

I think if you look around the country and what's going on a few people at a game out in the open isn't a big issue, games yesterday they didn't let people in so people stood at watched from behind a fence, stupid not letting people in for club games where there be at most a few hundred spread around the pitch. I know it's changing in a few weeks but really isn't a problem. I've seen amateur league football with good crowds watching at council pitches because it can't be stopped as they are public grounds. I accept it was a condition to get back going but I wouldn't be hanging any club for turning a blind eye to spectators.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 08:38:05 AM
On another note.... surprise win for St Brigids over Portglenone. What is the story with county players in these games? I see the likes of Crozier playing. I guess it's on a case by case basis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 17, 2021, 08:56:02 AM
They nearly feel like glorified friendlies. A lot of teams not even remotely close to full strength.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2021, 08:58:04 AM
St Brigids are going to be stronger this year, full panel for first time in years with many working abroad or taking years out to travel the world all home and available. Won minor and under 21 championships in recent years, this group now presenting themselves at senior. Good new manager in place who is highly thought of, so expect them to be very competitive this year. Caught us with last minute goal, no excuses from PG1.

The agreement as far as I know it is that if you play half a county match, or less, you are free to play for your club. So.. Niall Delargy played for us, and Niall Mc Keever and Dermot Mc Aleese sat it out.

I think this year is all about the championship, league just preparation for that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 09:09:36 AM
Who is their manager BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2021, 10:09:11 AM
Anthony Mc Grath, ITG. Held in high regard from those who know him at QUB. I expect he will push them on a bit this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 17, 2021, 12:47:42 PM
St Brides defo on the up with more players available perhaps due to travel restrictions. Have won at least 1 u21 but think minor still eludes them with a few finals/semis not going their way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 12:58:44 PM
Rossa are a good bit stronger with travel restrictions in place too. Good win for them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 17, 2021, 01:06:34 PM
Is the rule about county's players playing club a father teD one ? Whatever u think urself Dougal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 17, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Has Stewart played much for All Saints? Looks a great find.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 17, 2021, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 17, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Has Stewart played much for All Saints? Looks a great find.
I would say he has, great to see him and Loughran starting, Pat Shivers was reportedly close to starting but for an injury. Antrim were well organised, well lined out and had a bite about them which was great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2021, 05:55:17 PM
There's going to be injuries, especially in a shortened season, full pelt now in league, straight into championship, and 30 players looking for 15 starting jerseys, so there should be a bite at training. That's what the panel is for. Most other years the team could almost have picked itself, this year its wide open bar a handful of nailed on starters.

Home to Sligo on Sunday, another difficult assignment, never much between us.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 18, 2021, 09:06:15 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 17, 2021, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 17, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Has Stewart played much for All Saints? Looks a great find.
I would say he has, great to see him and Loughran starting, Pat Shivers was reportedly close to starting but for an injury. Antrim were well organised, well lined out and had a bite about them which was great to see.

Those 3 lads all starred for the U20 side that took Tyrone to the wire last year. No one is looking to get carried away but things are certainly looking up, and as someone else says there, with a handful of men to come back in then we are allowed to get excited  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 18, 2021, 11:08:57 PM
Is Matt Fitz playing for the county this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2021, 07:52:00 AM
Playing soccer for Glenavon, but soccer in NI will be wrapped up in a couple of weeks, and he would be some addition to the panel (certain starter at 11) for the months of June and July. Timing perfect to allow him back to Glenavon in August.You would assume management will be all over this. Last time he played in Athletic Grounds he hit the net twice as far as I can remember, against Tyrone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 19, 2021, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 19, 2021, 07:52:00 AM
Playing soccer for Glenavon, but soccer in NI will be wrapped up in a couple of weeks, and he would be some addition to the panel (certain starter at 11) for the months of June and July. Timing perfect to allow him back to Glenavon in August.You would assume management will be all over this. Last time he played in Athletic Grounds he hit the net twice as far as I can remember, against Tyrone.

Bit surprised and shocked at your response bannside, taking your previous and present involvement , talented the lad may be and getting remunerated for it I'm sure and good luck to him all day no issue at all. However if your the young cubs the likes of Loughran No 11 studying in Dublin, travelling up numerous times a week etc and big kudos to the present management now using and they are performing. Far from Lenny who talked the talk as always to the media, leaving/ignoring these cubs on the line or in stand, it would be a such a negative statement to put out there so early in the campaign. ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 19, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
Following on the Fr Ted theme has Mrs Doyle shed any light on the playing of county players in club games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
It's fair enough WhatwillB if it is explained in advance that a certain player will be joining up a few weeks late. I take your point about being fair to those who are training, but as long as he isn't jetted in the week of the game to the rest of the players surprise, then I'd say the vast majority of players on the panel would have no objection to one of our grade a stand out performers in recent years being involved.

I'm thinking of the contribution Conor Harrison made to Down a few years back, and throughout history there are dozens of stories about late additions to squads.  Dermot Connolly bring another last year.

All about opinions I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 19, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on May 19, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
Following on the Fr Ted theme has Mrs Doyle shed any light on the playing of county players in club games.
if only ther was a full time administrator in Craggy Island Croke Park to clear this up! |Away to hide in a hedge and watch a match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2021, 05:39:36 PM
As far as I know anyone who did not play at least one half for the county can strip out for their clubs for half a game. Something like that, but yes, a bit more definition would be good. Can't be leaving it up to players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 19, 2021, 07:19:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 19, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
It's fair enough WhatwillB if it is explained in advance that a certain player will be joining up a few weeks late. I take your point about being fair to those who are training, but as long as he isn't jetted in the week of the game to the rest of the players surprise, then I'd say the vast majority of players on the panel would have no objection to one of our grade a stand out performers in recent years being involved.

I'm thinking of the contribution Conor Harrison made to Down a few years back, and throughout history there are dozens of stories about late additions to squads.  Dermot Connolly bring another last year.

All about opinions I suppose.


Fair enough bannside, Conor Harrison good call...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 20, 2021, 10:06:33 AM
It's hard to get a good commentator these days  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on May 20, 2021, 10:43:25 AM
St Endas v LD has a penalty shoot out score  of 6 - 5.  Were any Co players allowed to play? Or was it 2 defensive teams playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 20, 2021, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on May 20, 2021, 10:43:25 AM
St Endas v LD has a penalty shoot out score  of 6 - 5.  Were any Co players allowed to play? Or was it 2 defensive teams playing

Creggan v Rossa not much better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 20, 2021, 11:30:21 AM
Cunningham played a half and Crozier played the match. Very strange the week of a game. What is the rule? Just a case by case basis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 20, 2021, 12:38:57 PM
Its a good question. The real danger is if you are on the squad somewhere between 20 and 30 you could easily get caught up in no man's land. No ball time for club or county.

I think the players themselves know where they stand on this, and when to play and when not to. Its a thin line though and I can't see the county stepping in and making anything compulsory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 20, 2021, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 20, 2021, 12:38:57 PM
Its a good question. The real danger is if you are on the squad somewhere between 20 and 30 you could easily get caught up in no man's land. No ball time for club or county.

I think the players themselves know where they stand on this, and when to play and when not to. Its a thin line though and I can't see the county stepping in and making anything compulsory.
its an ecumenical matter ted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Another good result for St Brigids. Still early days I guess to tell but they look to have improved at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 20, 2021, 05:26:22 PM
No doubt ITG. Big strong team, well drilled....underestimate them at your peril!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 05:32:44 PM
Anyone else's stream froze?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 05:44:54 PM
Go on paddy ye boy ye. Great win. Would have been nice to see it too given I paid for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 23, 2021, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 05:32:44 PM
Anyone else's stream froze?

Yes ffs. Gaago is shite

What a win though....2 of thee worst penalties given ever!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2021, 06:14:55 PM
That was some score to win it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 23, 2021, 07:00:03 PM
Two wins from two, both coming from behind in the last few minutes! The sign of real character, we have so often been on the wrong end of those dog fights.

Let's not get carried away, some hard work still needed to get turn this panel into a team that can go into Division three and be competitive. But the early signs are very progressive.

Paddy Cunningham the hero with a last minute point from a tight angle. Who else would you have wanted on it? Next up Leitrim, keep the focus right and let's build a winning run.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 23, 2021, 08:49:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 23, 2021, 07:00:03 PM
Two wins from two, both coming from behind in the last few minutes! The sign of real character, we have so often been on the wrong end of those dog fights.

Let's not get carried away, some hard work still needed to get turn this panel into a team that can go into Division three and be competitive. But the early signs are very progressive.

Paddy Cunningham the hero with a last minute point from a tight angle. Who else would you have wanted on it? Next up Leitrim, keep the focus right and let's build a winning run.

Real character. Something we missed previously but these lads have it in spades. Patience to work it to the oracle for that last score.

My GAAgo was fcuked but BBC Sport was a joy to listen to

Gives the whole county a lift and a spring in our steps. Keep the foot down lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 24, 2021, 03:12:47 PM
Good to get the win, had to go and win it a couple of times! A couple of the decisions were shocking. On the last penalty, does the covering defenders not mean it wasn't a goal scoring chance.

Do we just need to win the semi final for promotion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2021, 03:51:58 PM
Yes - we are in the semi now, whatever happens next weekend. Not sure if 'North' teams play a 'South' team in semi, could be either Waterford or Carlow. Winning the semi = promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 24, 2021, 10:01:37 PM
Real good will to win being Shown and long may it last . Oul hands and young lads winning combination
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2021, 10:49:09 PM
Checked the regulations. We will play second place in 'South', either Carlow or Waterford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 27, 2021, 10:31:19 PM
ANy word of Casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2021, 02:15:00 PM
More club and county football to look forward to this weekend. Club scene in Div 1 in particular more like a pre season tournament until clubs have access to the 30 or so county panellists. Good chance for fringe players to gain experience and managers to build squad numbers.

County in a unique position that we are through already to the play offs where we are one game away from the promotion that has alluded us. Players are stepping up to the challenge and the freshness of new regime is paying dividends to date.

Last minute winning points two games in succession is either the sign of a lucky manager (we will take that) or a hungry bunch of player, hopefully both!

Whilst impressed with most aspects in the course of first two games, the free count against us is a bit high and we've conceded 6 goals...but this can always be improved.

Was surprised to see Declan Lynch left one on one with Sligo's best player Niall Murphy for 30 minutes on Sunday. No one sweeping in front of a 50 years space, without any protection whatsoever. We were lucky enough very little ball came in. When you win the way we did we gloss over the finer details and get away with things like this.
Paddy's last minute wonder winner more than making up for his last minute narrow wide in the same fixture last year when we lost by one point! The irony of it all!

Good luck to all again tomorrow - you would hope for a solid victory against a team that beat us (by a point!) in Carrick on Shannon two years ago with the help of a neighbouring county referee the like I've never witnessed before. The type of bad luck that Lenny endured during his tenure!

Kick on Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 29, 2021, 05:41:42 PM
If I am reading it right, of Carlow win today we will play Waterford for promotion, if Wexford win we will play them. Carlow started 1.3 to no score but Wexford back in it now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
Just watched it. Carlow win - so it looks like we will be playing Waterford for a place in Division 3 next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 29, 2021, 06:57:44 PM
We would take that all day long. Important to keep the winning run going tomorrow too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2021, 07:13:21 PM
Exactly Brendan. A polished performance tomorrow will leave us going into the play off in good shape, confidence flowing. Louth beat them by 9 points last week so Leitrim have nothing to play for.....except pride which can be dangerous! Home venue also worth a few points. I like the look of the handicap betting, even money minus two points. I've had a decent cut at that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 30, 2021, 06:47:27 PM
Crazy stuff in the 2nd half to give up that 7 point lead, regardless of the permutations. A more professional mentality would have kicked on and blew Leitrim away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 30, 2021, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 29, 2021, 07:13:21 PM
Exactly Brendan. A polished performance tomorrow will leave us going into the play off in good shape, confidence flowing. Louth beat them by 9 points last week so Leitrim have nothing to play for.....except pride which can be dangerous! Home venue also worth a few points. I like the look of the handicap betting, even money minus two points. I've had a decent cut at that!

That's why there aren't any poor bookies !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2021, 07:41:09 PM
Exactly Big G. I doubled up on Louth in the handicap as well both winning comfortably, was counting too early.

We have lost more than our share of those dog fights over the years, so coming back for the winner three weeks in a row is a trait to like.

What was I saying yesterday about a lucky manager! It will take more than luck though and a lot of work to be done I'm afraid if we are going to be competitive in Div 3.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 30, 2021, 11:31:06 PM
Great balls to win in the end for a 3rd time in a row...love it

Why are we away to Waterford?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 31, 2021, 05:18:01 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 30, 2021, 11:31:06 PM
Great balls to win in the end for a 3rd time in a row...love it

Why are we away to Waterford?
As part of the agreed format- semi final venues are based on number of home and away fixtures.
Antrim had 2 home fixs. Waterford had 1 home.
If it had have been the same - it was a coin toss for home advantage .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2021, 09:31:24 AM
Don't think Antrim should travel to Waterford given that this Covid thing still isn't over. I mean can the players even travel in the same bus to the match?

I think Waterford should accommodate our very reasonable request to play at a neutral venue in a location in between! Yes/No. Under the circumstances that would be a sporting thing to do!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2021, 11:41:35 AM
Make a night of it Bannside, the weather generally nice in Waterford, hire a camper and head down, no need to 'book' in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 31, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2021, 09:31:24 AM
Don't think Antrim should travel to Waterford given that this Covid thing still isn't over. I mean can the players even travel in the same bus to the match?

I think Waterford should accommodate our very reasonable request to play at a neutral venue in a location in between! Yes/No. Under the circumstances that would be a sporting thing to do!

Did Antrim not accommodate Waterford last year by playing in Dundalk ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 31, 2021, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2021, 09:31:24 AM
Don't think Antrim should travel to Waterford given that this Covid thing still isn't over. I mean can the players even travel in the same bus to the match?

I think Waterford should accommodate our very reasonable request to play at a neutral venue in a location in between! Yes/No. Under the circumstances that would be a sporting thing to do!

you have to think would we do it for them? cant see much chance of this happening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
There is precedent...and we set it to suit Waterford. If there was any sporting integrity they would reciprocate our gesture last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 31, 2021, 05:47:13 PM
12.15 throw in. Are teams allowed to travel the night before the game and stay over? Otherwise that is a disgraceful time to have it after that journey.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 31, 2021, 07:47:49 PM
IMHO just play the game and not a word about it.  It'll just be a big drain of energy if it becomes a talking point.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 31, 2021, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 31, 2021, 07:47:49 PM
IMHO just play the game and not a word about it.  It'll just be a big drain of energy if it becomes a talking point.

Agreed.  Get down and hammer into them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 01, 2021, 09:05:20 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 31, 2021, 05:47:13 PM
12.15 throw in. Are teams allowed to travel the night before the game and stay over? Otherwise that is a disgraceful time to have it after that journey.

GAA rules on travelling by bus is that you're only allowed 50% of the normal capacity so Antrim will need two buses and go down that morning.

Down hurlers had to do that against Kerry a few weeks back and ran out of puff in the second half.

Not ideal but I think hotel stays are still prohibited..

Surely a neutral venue midway makes sense to everyone, even in Croke Park FFS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2021, 01:36:16 PM
What planet do GAA fixtures committee live in. The cost of two buses plus overnight stays for 50 people if you include the co board and extended management will leave little change out of £10k.

That's a fair chunk of money that shouldn't need to be spent.

And that's not my only worry. What about the average of 20 points a game we are conceding. Jesus wept...what's going on there? If we weren't getting out of jail the way we are, some tough questions would be asked!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 01:45:03 PM
There won't be able to be overnight stays yet surely?

I really think this fixture needs looked at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2021, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 01:45:03 PM
There won't be able to be overnight stays yet surely?

I really think this fixture needs looked at.

Hotels open up in the South tomorrow I heard.

I said it the last time, giving up home advantage is a no go for me, regardless of the cost it is to another county, the journey time is 4 hours, not 90 hours.

The game should be fixed for a evening throw in, either 5 or 6pm . That would allow plenty time to head down. We knew the fixtures and set up would mean an away semi final should we have got to it, Id be biting your hand off at the start of the fixtures if you said you are playing Waterford away from home in the semi final.

The logistics are what they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 02:06:35 PM
Ah I thought it was Monday hotels opened. That makes it not as bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2021, 03:02:45 PM
I will head down and stay over on the Saturday night somewhere, and like a idiot hunt about to see if I can get in the gate somehow. Madness I know. Haven't been beat yet lol.

Waterford will throw the kitchen sink at this like never before. We cannot take anything for granted here. Get three or four of their best forwards tightly man to man marked even if it does mean diluting a bit of our attack attack attack ethos. Defenders need to defend first and foremost and a bonus is if some of them can break tackles at 100 mph. Our selectors are putting natural forwards into key defensive positions and are not looking at the stats.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here...but tighten it up at the back please please please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 03:06:33 PM
There's too much space in front of the full back line. I am not sure exactly what the issue is here but the likes of Sweeney being fit would be a help.

You're a trier BS lol. I am sure you'd be able to see it ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2021, 03:27:43 PM
Sweeney never let the county down ITG that's for sure. But what's his best position at county level.

Look lots going on to like as well. Two massive plusses for me this year are both new GKs. Michael and Luke, both great shot stoppers and fantastic precision kick outs.

Their ability to hang the ball in the air with accuracy is bringing out the best in big Niall (2 great games in a row) and find of year so far, Conor Stewart. We are winning first phase possession for first time in years.

Credit where its due for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2021, 03:38:50 PM
Yeah I am very happy with anything I see to be honest. Yes we could concede less but we are playing better football than I have seen in a long time. Sweeney best position sweeping wing half forward IMO.

Beating waterford would be ideal and then the armagh game anything we get out of that is a bonus. We're definitely playing much better but 4 to 1 is a stretch.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 01, 2021, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2021, 03:27:43 PM
Sweeney never let the county down ITG that's for sure. But what's his best position at county level.

Look lots going on to like as well. Two massive plusses for me this year are both new GKs. Michael and Luke, both great shot stoppers and fantastic precision kick outs.

Their ability to hang the ball in the air with accuracy is bringing out the best in big Niall (2 great games in a row) and find of year so far, Conor Stewart. We are winning first phase possession for first time in years.

Credit where its due for that.

Agree with all.

We are unbelievably porous at the back ...needs sorted asap!

As you said this is Waterfords biggest chance in living   memory of a chance of them getting to div 3...them having scraped a win in 1 match.

They Will throw the absolute kitchen sink at us. I remember in 08 we needed a point v Waterford or tipp in our last 2 games to get to div 3...we fcuked it right up. Please god we get over them...we've a great attack and midfield so have every reason to be confident!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
Exactly Gold. If history has taught us anything it is not to underestimate any opposition. This is like an All Ireland final to Waterford and you can be sure they have their share of handy footballers.

They will see we have conceded 63 points in three games of football and fancy having a piece of that. Not to mind what Armagh must be thinking!

Start with men in defence who can stop the opposition scoring -  that would be a good start. Build from there out. There's two sets of goalposts on the pitch!

It's fantastic where we are, when was the last time any supporter saw us winning with the last kick of the ball three weeks in a row. Fantastic entertainment, but let's get a bit more practical in defence and who knows where this journey will end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 02, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
Exactly Gold. If history has taught us anything it is not to underestimate any opposition. This is like an All Ireland final to Waterford and you can be sure they have their share of handy footballers.

They will see we have conceded 63 points in three games of football and fancy having a piece of that. Not to mind what Armagh must be thinking!

Start with men in defence who can stop the opposition scoring -  that would be a good start. Build from there out. There's two sets of goalposts on the pitch!

It's fantastic where we are, when was the last time any supporter saw us winning with the last kick of the ball three weeks in a row. Fantastic entertainment, but let's get a bit more practical in defence and who knows where this journey will end.

Seems like the football management can't win regardless of who it is. We have experienced years of dull boring drab defensive crap, now we are high scoring and high conceding but still winning and we still aren't happy  :) :) :)

Take a look across the board all divisions I dont think there has been a higher scoring season in my memory anywhere so the trend seems to be set. Jaysus even Armagh are scoring goals so things must be changing.

Winning is winning and no matter how you get it done as long as you do then that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2021, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 02, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
Exactly Gold. If history has taught us anything it is not to underestimate any opposition. This is like an All Ireland final to Waterford and you can be sure they have their share of handy footballers.

They will see we have conceded 63 points in three games of football and fancy having a piece of that. Not to mind what Armagh must be thinking!

Start with men in defence who can stop the opposition scoring -  that would be a good start. Build from there out. There's two sets of goalposts on the pitch!

It's fantastic where we are, when was the last time any supporter saw us winning with the last kick of the ball three weeks in a row. Fantastic entertainment, but let's get a bit more practical in defence and who knows where this journey will end.

Seems like the football management can't win regardless of who it is. We have experienced years of dull boring drab defensive crap, now we are high scoring and high conceding but still winning and we still aren't happy  :) :) :)

Take a look across the board all divisions I dont think there has been a higher scoring season in my memory anywhere so the trend seems to be set. Jaysus even Armagh are scoring goals so things must be changing.

Winning is winning and no matter how you get it done as long as you do then that's all that matters.

Well said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 02, 2021, 06:13:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 02, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
Exactly Gold. If history has taught us anything it is not to underestimate any opposition. This is like an All Ireland final to Waterford and you can be sure they have their share of handy footballers.

They will see we have conceded 63 points in three games of football and fancy having a piece of that. Not to mind what Armagh must be thinking!

Start with men in defence who can stop the opposition scoring -  that would be a good start. Build from there out. There's two sets of goalposts on the pitch!

It's fantastic where we are, when was the last time any supporter saw us winning with the last kick of the ball three weeks in a row. Fantastic entertainment, but let's get a bit more practical in defence and who knows where this journey will end.

Seems like the football management can't win regardless of who it is. We have experienced years of dull boring drab defensive crap, now we are high scoring and high conceding but still winning and we still aren't happy  :) :) :)

Take a look across the board all divisions I dont think there has been a higher scoring season in my memory anywhere so the trend seems to be set. Jaysus even Armagh are scoring goals so things must be changing.

Winning is winning and no matter how you get it done as long as you do then that's all that matters.

Here don't get me wrong it's absolutely class!  Winning games and scoring heavily is magic!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 02, 2021, 06:44:52 PM
And the drama of these last minute winners. Not an Antrim supporter who wouldn't have taken your arm off for this scenario. With any luck we will be in a higher grade next year and management will have a lot more time to find the right system for us. I suppose all we need to do for now is enjoy the moment and hope we are still smiling in ten days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 03, 2021, 09:23:56 AM
Haven't heard much about Gaelfast lately. What's the latest Ground ie?
I'm sure Belfast GAA man could enlighten us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 03, 2021, 12:31:24 PM
Do St Galls have much youth coming through?  On a lot of the reports, seems their old hands are still battling away but perhaps there might not be many years left in them, will there be a rapid decline once those warriors go?  None of the McGourtys feature now at all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 03, 2021, 12:57:45 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 03, 2021, 12:31:24 PM
Do St Galls have much youth coming through?  On a lot of the reports, seems their old hands are still battling away but perhaps there might not be many years left in them, will there be a rapid decline once those warriors go?  None of the McGourtys feature now at all?

On that note of older players, I went up to the SW Cargin/Portglenone game. Cargin had played 3 U19s and 3 U18s all from last years minor team, a Cargin supporter from the family circle proudly announced to me. He further proudly boasted that was 8 of their first minor winning team of two seasons ago playing senior. I went home depressed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 03, 2021, 01:10:57 PM
I have watched the three Antrim games. All v important wins. And agree with all to see us having the ability to win tight games is a brilliant quality to be developing. Two things that sit out for me. We still have a few players who are not good enough, repeated errors and not good enough footballers. I know there a few players not 100% ready yet and that will improve that issue hopefully. The second and its massive for me. Our kickout strategy is not good enough yet. Niall Mc Keever has won some ball on kickouts, last Sunday and against Sligo.  When he went off on Sunday were were really struggling for possession. Sorry for saying this but our management almost blew that result on Sunday. Put on too many players and an number let themselves down. However is saying all of that its a very welcome change from the past few seasons of drivel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2021, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 03, 2021, 01:10:57 PM
I have watched the three Antrim games. All v important wins. And agree with all to see us having the ability to win tight games is a brilliant quality to be developing. Two things that sit out for me. We still have a few players who are not good enough, repeated errors and not good enough footballers. I know there a few players not 100% ready yet and that will improve that issue hopefully. The second and its massive for me. Our kickout strategy is not good enough yet. Niall Mc Keever has won some ball on kickouts, last Sunday and against Sligo.  When he went off on Sunday were were really struggling for possession. Sorry for saying this but our management almost blew that result on Sunday. Put on too many players and an number let themselves down. However is saying all of that its a very welcome change from the past few seasons of drivel.

Going forward that will be a lesson for management that the game is not won until the final whistle! I'm sure with the panel we have its about seeing who's playing well but for Antrim, but every game we play in Div4 is like championship, we need to go in with that attitude and win the game first before giving game time to players.

We are judged on results not letting wee johnny on for a run out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
We will be judged on getting out of division 4. Must win game... Anything that happens in the Armagh game is a bonus as it's division 4 against division 1 so is a big ask. (Though I think it is a decent enough draw for us)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 03, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 03, 2021, 11:14:32 AM
They lost the director of the project and two development officers. All in a number of months. I've heard the Co ordinator is gone too. Something not sounding quite right for what was to be our great white hope.
I been criticised before for having a go at Gaelfast but surley even the yes men in this board must be wondering wha the hell is going on?
Chief goes / Indians going / No plan / No leadership from COunty board AAAgh
Our big chance wasted >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 03, 2021, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 03, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 03, 2021, 11:14:32 AM
They lost the director of the project and two development officers. All in a number of months. I've heard the Co ordinator is gone too. Something not sounding quite right for what was to be our great white hope.
I been criticised before for having a go at Gaelfast but surley even the yes men in this board must be wondering wha the hell is going on?
Chief goes / Indians going / No plan / No leadership from COunty board AAAgh
Our big chance wasted >:(

This was the issue you were having a go.

I think the question now needs to be asked, why the person head hunted for the post left to begin with?

I don't there is too much explanation needed for that one when you sit back a take a look at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 03, 2021, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 03, 2021, 04:18:39 PM
Director Donnelly leaves then  a development officer leaves shortly after now a long term staff member who is a development officer has left. I've also heard the project manager is refusing to return. Big chance missed. Same old Antrim.

Maybe this is the time for Croke Park to step in and go outside the county for this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: groundlie on June 03, 2021, 05:28:33 PM
It's a sorry state of affairs. Shocking that our leadership in the county just let another project by the wayside again, losing great people. Its all well and good having big outside names taking our senior squads but losing our grassroots people is very disappointing. Who came first in Dublin? Jim Gavin and all Irelands or the coaching and development at grassroots? Chicken before the egg in antrim yet again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 03, 2021, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 03, 2021, 05:28:33 PM
It's a sorry state of affairs. Shocking that our leadership in the county just let another project by the wayside again, losing great people. Its all well and good having big outside names taking our senior squads but losing our grassroots people is very disappointing. Who came first in Dublin? Jim Gavin and all Irelands or the coaching and development at grassroots? Chicken before the egg in antrim yet again.
Groundie you are not allowed to have a go a gaelfast on this board - do you not know the rules? MR2 or ironside will say you are negative and theu are doing their best in difficult times bla bla bla
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 03, 2021, 11:11:04 PM
Ironside lol. I don't have an inside track on Gaelfast at all, you probably know more than me. The last time I got involved in this was just to say it's hardly a good thing for the county to have all our problems hashed out here in full view of the country. Apart from that I agree totally that the county board have a responsibility to (a) inform club delegates of all relevant matters in this regard, and (b) be proactive about getting the programme back on track.

Gaelfast is one of the most important initiatives we have ever had, and it's a priority to do whatever is necessary to redress the problems internally without delay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2021, 11:32:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 03, 2021, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 03, 2021, 05:28:33 PM
It's a sorry state of affairs. Shocking that our leadership in the county just let another project by the wayside again, losing great people. Its all well and good having big outside names taking our senior squads but losing our grassroots people is very disappointing. Who came first in Dublin? Jim Gavin and all Irelands or the coaching and development at grassroots? Chicken before the egg in antrim yet again.
Groundie you are not allowed to have a go a gaelfast on this board - do you not know the rules? MR2 or ironside will say you are negative and theu are doing their best in difficult times bla bla bla

So tell me what happened? I'm out of the loop, an initiative ran by Croke park, organised and managed by Croke!

Did people leave because they were offered better jobs?

Not knowing anything about this I firmly believe if the those who were entrusted with carrying out their duties and without the problems of lockdown we'd have had a brilliant boost to the inner city Gaels.

Hopefully this gets a kick start all over again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on June 04, 2021, 05:36:45 AM
Political Involvement within the Trojan Horse of the "Cultural Revolution" vote once and vote often!!!!!!!! Who's gonna grasp that nettle!!! Same old mantra, create chaos then step in and take control.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 04, 2021, 09:19:32 AM
I remember listening to Sambo McNaughton talking on RTE radio about the woes of Antrim and Ulster hurling and his most telling and accurate statement was; "we don't need a Brian Cody, we need a Ned Quinn".

Ned Quinn look up the role of Vice Chair in Kilkenny in 1994, the year after Down had beaten Kilkenny in Nowlan Park to relegate them to Div2 and that was when there were two 6 team divisions in Div1, so they were ranked 13th at best in the hurling world, an all time low.

Before the days of GDO's and the likes he went to the doors of dozens of ex intercounty hurlers and asked them to give a few hours a week to coach in clubs, schools and county teams and they built from there to go on and dominate hurling for most of the 00's and beyond. He became chairman of Kilkenny and was in that role up until 2017 and not doubt he rubbed some people and clubs up the wrong way in the process.

Get your Ned Quinn and stick with him or her.. You might not agree with everything they set out to do but chopping and changing and infighting and undermining the process is only going to lead to one outcome and that's the funding being pulled.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 04, 2021, 10:24:51 AM
https://ulster.gaa.ie/council/jobs/ (https://ulster.gaa.ie/council/jobs/)

Get the CV's brushed up there lads and lassies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 05, 2021, 10:31:04 PM
and Back to the start we go!! Gaelfast = casement = craggy island
well done to the hurlers today great game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 06, 2021, 06:09:41 PM
Both a disgrace and embarrassment, nothing else can be said. Could still be playing on Casement to this day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 06, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Maybe Covid fcuked it up. Two sides to every story. Covid wrecked a lot of businesses, some a lot longer established than Gaelfast. I would be very surprised if it cannot be put back together again, Yes /No?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on June 09, 2021, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 09, 2021, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 06, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Maybe Covid fcuked it up. Two sides to every story. Covid wrecked a lot of businesses, some a lot longer established than Gaelfast. I would be very surprised if it cannot be put back together again, Yes /No?

Possibly can be put back together but my question goes back to the fundamental reason why it fell apart and if the GAA will allow it to be put back together. Gaelfast has been an absolute mess. Losing Paul Donnelly was an absolute disgrace.


Common thread " Ourselves Alone" create chaos to become relevant period!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 09:50:58 PM
This league is really just glorified friendlies with severely weakened teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2021, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 09:50:58 PM
This league is really just glorified friendlies with severely weakened teams.

Only in league one, the other leagues are very competitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 09, 2021, 10:22:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 09:50:58 PM
This league is really just glorified friendlies with severely weakened teams.
seriously ? So club players are useless then and they don't Deserve any matches to county players r back ... just leave them in house?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 09, 2021, 10:22:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 09:50:58 PM
This league is really just glorified friendlies with severely weakened teams.
seriously ? So club players are useless then and they don't Deserve any matches to county players r back ... just leave them in house?

What did I say that is wrong? They're like glorified friendlies in division one. I didn't say they shouldn't be playing games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 09, 2021, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 09, 2021, 10:22:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 09, 2021, 09:50:58 PM
This league is really just glorified friendlies with severely weakened teams.
seriously ? So club players are useless then and they don't Deserve any matches to county players r back ... just leave them in house?

What did I say that is wrong? They're like glorified friendlies in division one. I didn't say they shouldn't be playing games.
u r saying without the stars they friendlies.. wat about the young bucks getting a run they would nt normally get . Class for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2021, 11:27:54 PM
I think he just said it's glorified friendly's ?

No relegation so great for teams to explore their squads. The young bucks will (in most cases) not oust a county player come championship. A good manager should be doing breaking in players every year, not just cause of the current set up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2021, 12:11:08 AM
The league this year really dosent matter. It's an unusual season where only show in town is cship. We beat Lamh Dhearg tonight by whatever, don't really know, but when these teams meet in CShip it's a totally new game. Good for managers to blood new players and build their panels. Cargin will still be the team to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 10, 2021, 05:55:30 AM
There's a serious number of injuries as well. A lot of teams are only playing games with 2/3 certain championship starters. It's still better than no football at all. But I would say managers in division 1 are learning very little about their teams at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 10, 2021, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2021, 11:27:54 PM
I think he just said it's glorified friendly's ?

No relegation so great for teams to explore their squads. The young bucks will (in most cases) not oust a county player come championship. A good manager should be doing breaking in players every year, not just cause of the current set up

Worth it when the county is going so well!

Did Endas v Brigids game go ahead? See you were down to ref it but no result on county website??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2021, 09:17:19 AM
I have st endas on twitter and they were getting beat by 7 or 8 points at one stage in the second half. Didn't see how it panned out. The results only show up when reliable refs send them in apparently  ;D (Sorry couldn't resist haha)

Edit: I maybe don't have them on my twitter but it came up somewhere on my twitter feed.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2021, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2021, 09:17:19 AM
I have st endas on twitter and they were getting beat by 7 or 8 points at one stage in the second half. Didn't see how it panned out. The results only show up when reliable refs send them in apparently  ;D (Sorry couldn't resist haha)

Edit: I maybe don't have them on my twitter but it came up somewhere on my twitter feed.

Lol!!! My god there are some eagle eyes about, I thought Brendan would be on giving us a run down on how they played
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 11, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
Not much chat about our big game on Sunday. 70 mins from bring a Division three team. I'm heading down confident but wary of what happened in 08 when Waterford burst our bubble in Casement in a winner takes all encounter..... especially when you look at the calibre of that 08 team, the majority of them featuring prominently for Baker the following year.

Lady luck has shone on us to date this season, if we guard very strongly against any remote prospect of complacency, we could be celebrating over our lunch on Sunday

Good luck to all. Saffron Abu.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 12, 2021, 08:38:02 AM
Any team news?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 12, 2021, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 11, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
Not much chat about our big game on Sunday. 70 mins from bring a Division three team. I'm heading down confident but wary of what happened in 08 when Waterford burst our bubble in Casement in a winner takes all encounter..... especially when you look at the calibre of that 08 team, the majority of them featuring prominently for Baker the following year.

Lady luck has shone on us to date this season, if we guard very strongly against any remote prospect of complacency, we could be celebrating over our lunch on Sunday

Good luck to all. Saffron Abu.

Please god we do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
Good win. To be honest we were a good bit better and could have won by more. A good performance and campaign. I think we have improved a good bit this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 13, 2021, 03:26:22 PM
 A brilliant achievement! Well done to all involved, feels like this promotion has been a long time coming. Brilliant weekend all round for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 13, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
Seems to be a serious togetherness in the Antrim Football squad, something thats been missing this last 7 r 8 years. Well done to all and fair play to McGinley, the doubters will be believers now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 13, 2021, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
Good win. To be honest we were a good bit better and could have won by more. A good performance and campaign. I think we have improved a good bit this year.

Great win and totally agree. We shouldve won by 15. A wee bit more composure and we could've done a Kerry and scored 6 goals. But absolutely delighted we finally got out of the basement and great pride in our team.

We are gonna open up against someone...we have it in us. Armagh Div 1 but we have the ability.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 13, 2021, 09:14:26 PM
I see Derry and Offaly have agreed to play a Div 3 final

Can we do the same ?!

Thanks to Enda, Stevie and Sean btw....class year and achievement . GRMA lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 13, 2021, 11:38:38 PM
Great achievement to win four on the trot. Next year will be a step up, but one we can deal with. Congrats to all, great weekend for a Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 14, 2021, 11:01:48 AM
Good to get the result and get back up to division 3. No away trip in the league is easy.

A lot of improvement needed going forward, some sloppy giving the ball away that against better opposition will be punished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 14, 2021, 10:35:19 PM
Can't put my finger on it to be honest, happy to be getting results but yesterday performance wise was a long way off. If we are going to be honest, Waterford were very poor and we were just a bit better!

It's ok to win ugly and four in a row is an excellent stat... but the exciting thing for me is we are still very open to improvement!

Big Ricky was standout yesterday, and the two midfielders Big Niall and Conor are winning first phase ball we have struggled to win for a few years. Those are positives for me that we can definitely build on.

Realistically what is our expectation against Armagh in two weeks?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 14, 2021, 10:53:42 PM
Big Ricky the stand out yesterday. Jez, I can't believe you think that. I wasn't expecting him out the second half. He had nothing to do the first half but almost balls up everything he tried. To his credit he was really good second half. The stand out was easily Jordan. Agree about Niall & Conor. But we have to many poor decesion makers to trouble Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2021, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 14, 2021, 10:35:19 PM
Can't put my finger on it to be honest, happy to be getting results but yesterday performance wise was a long way off. If we are going to be honest, Waterford were very poor and we were just a bit better!

It's ok to win ugly and four in a row is an excellent stat... but the exciting thing for me is we are still very open to improvement!

Big Ricky was standout yesterday, and the two midfielders Big Niall and Conor are winning first phase ball we have struggled to win for a few years. Those are positives for me that we can definitely build on.

Realistically what is our expectation against Armagh in two weeks?

Armagh are Div 1... we are promoted from Div 4... the odds will reflect that and any pundit will give us zero chance, but depending on how we set up and approach the game will decide how we do.

I've watched Armagh and they are a lot better this year so it's an uphill struggle but we put a good showing last year in championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2021, 08:25:54 AM
When Waterford brought it back to four points with 15 mins left Ricky made two fantastic interceptions which could have led to goal chances for Waterford. One of them started the move that led to Eastwood's goal. Possibly a six point swing in our favour. Jordan yes he put in another good shift, but overall no more than half a dozen players can think of putting their hand up and saying they were good on the day.

The heat could have been a factor, the burden of expectancy too possibly....but on other days a performance like that would not be nearly good enough.

Depending on how you look at it this could be okay, because some of these days we could really click for longer periods and that will be in our favour.

In the meantime we can all enjoy the moment and plan for a competitive performance against Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 15, 2021, 08:50:10 AM
Would you go defensive against Armagh as they have a lot of good forwards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 15, 2021, 08:52:23 AM
I thought Conor while good was very laboured on the ball, against a division 1 team with intensity he will need to be sharper on it and move it quicker. Also we won't be able to carry it into the tackle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2021, 09:02:41 AM
That was a tough game to judge. I think we were constantly expecting something from Waterford which never came. We should have beat them out the gate but never drove on. I honestly thought the same against Louth. Armagh a big challenge and anything we get a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on June 15, 2021, 08:50:10 AM
Would you go defensive against Armagh as they have a lot of good forwards?

If we haven't played defensively this year, then it will be hard to shift tactics to playing defensively? Go out and play to our strengths and see where it lies.. We have to see what we have going forward and work on our defense for div3 next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2021, 09:22:49 AM
Armagh put 1 -17 on the board against Roscommon, so what will they be expecting to put past us. Theres no one expecting us to win this game....but after a glowing honeymoon period for Enda and the goodwill that emanates from that...the last thing we need is a pontificating Pat Spillane having his annual rant about how pathetic Antrim are. We need to be competitive to retain any respect we may have earned over the last month.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 15, 2021, 11:45:32 AM
Honeymoon period an interesting take on it. Reading previous posts I thought getting out of Div 4 was Antrims main goal. Antrim have won all 4 games and went up a division, now you say the performance v Armagh will dictate whether they retain peoples respect. You do realise Armagh are division 1 team, with K McG in his 5th year developing them. Paddy Power has Armagh at 1/16 to win this game. Hoping for a good performance and I think we'll get it as Armagh will suit Antrim, but it wont take away from the promotion no matter what happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2021, 11:55:29 AM
Yeah our main goal has been achieved. Watching division four and even the division two promotion games the pace difference is night and day. Physicality levels and basic fitness are massively different. Big task but bonus territory. No one cares about pat spillane...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 15, 2021, 12:48:49 PM
Promotion was absolutely key and if we lost to Armagh, that's a line drawn under a successful season. It's just a real shame that it's such a curtailed county season. Enda and the management team will only have had 5 games. In any normal season we have McKenna Cup x 3 (at least), league x 7 games, USFC x 1 (at least) and qualifier(s) - so at least 12 games to build a team, develop a plan, try players etc. They have had none of that space this year and is we do go out of Championship on 4th July, that's it for the squad and management until Jan 2022.

As for Armagh - Enda will have his plan I'm sure, I would love to see us taking the game to them, press them and see if we can score more than them, but then I'm a simple man  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 15, 2021, 01:15:46 PM
Promotion was the main goal. Maybe I am getting ahead of myself here but looking at Div 3 and we have a real chance to go again. No team to be scared of in there. Have beat a good few of them in recent years and no big hitters. Laois and Fermanagh have dropped off alot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 15, 2021, 01:21:30 PM
I'm surprised Bannside is being so critical as usually he is the most positive and hopeful person in Antrim. The season has been a success. A lot of players back, blooded some good young players, got rid of some dead weight or players who need to try get back onto the panel and then got promoted from division 4. Preventing a hammering or at least a bit of performance is all Antrim can hope for this year. It's division 1 v a newly promoted div 4 team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2021, 01:54:09 PM
I came home from all four games thinking the win is the main thing....obviously... but the overall performance was very disjointed. We had lady luck and no shortage of hunger which are great traits....but we are playing in ten minute spells if you know what I mean. The players and management know this too, so this won't be news to them.

It's meant to be a mixture of balance and constructive opinion..I have a lot of hope that this management team can bring us on, and high praise will follow accordingly. At the minute I call it as I see it. We are winning but not playing well. There's another level we can go to. And you could say thats still in our favour because some day it will unfold.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 15, 2021, 01:54:09 PM
I came home from all four games thinking the win is the main thing....obviously... but the overall performance was very disjointed. We had lady luck and no shortage of hunger which are great traits....but we are playing in ten minute spells if you know what I mean. The players and management know this too, so this won't be news to them.

It's meant to be a mixture of balance and constructive opinion..I have a lot of hope that this management team can bring us on, and high praise will follow accordingly. At the minute I call it as I see it. We are winning but not playing well. There's another level we can go to. And you could say thats still in our favour because some day it will unfold.

Id rather be wining playing shite than losing and playing well!! Some older lads might not be there next year, who knows, they have certainly added much needed experience to the squad and came up with vital plays and scores when needed.

Is there selection issues?

You feeling the balance isn't there or can be improved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2021, 03:05:11 PM
I wondered about McCabe corner back on Sunday as he's usually more of a forward but he was very good I thought.

We really should have put Louth and Waterford away more efficiently would have been my thoughts. I missed the other two games but winning more important.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2021, 04:37:02 PM
Funny enough MR, all coaches and athletes will tell you that the performance is better than the result. If/when you are performing well, the results will follow.

Here's an example. You're a golfer who can play to scratch but wins a competition playing shite, just marginally less shite than the others.. will you go home happy because you won another golf umbrella at the prize giving.

Or a hundred metre sprinter who can do 11 seconds but wins a bad race in 14 seconds. Do you think that athlete will go home happy. Not a chance.

Sport is about being the best individually you can be. Or collectively in a team sport. That's not happening, and we are getting away with poor performances because we are winning. Other days we might not have a Paddy Cunningham special to rely on to get us out of jail.

That's my point. When we start performing to our potential I will be the very first to acknowledge and applaud. Don't worry about that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
ITG, to be fair Eoghan Mc Cabe did well I thought. Not sure if he has ever played corner back in his life, Sean Kelly would know more about that. Thankfully his man did not stay in the corner and he got a chance to come out the pitch where he is a bit more familiar. He can be pleased with his debut performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2021, 06:11:46 PM
But we are in a results business and playing really well and losing won't get us up to a higher grade.

It's only at that higher grade can Antrim improve, just like the hurlers have done, moved up a level, in fact a level and a half and this has been done, a few years of playing well but not beating Laois, Westmeath and even losing to Meath was hard to watch.

To use St Enda's as an example, they've had many false dawns over the years, great kids coming through loads of promise, in both codes, only for those kids to end up playing a level well below their skill set.

Now that their senior teams are playing at senior level those youngsters will automatically improve all aspects of their game to try and compete with the established clubs.

So let's get out of Div4 tick, get out of Div 3 and then we can go into Ulster championships with some confidence, backed up by experience and better conditioning

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2021, 08:19:15 PM
Not disputing that at all MR. By far the biggest priority, in fact really the only priority was promotion. That has been achieved without setting the world on fire. No doubt div 3 pace will be a bit quicker and we shouldn't be afraid of those teams whom we have met regularly over the last year or two.

Theres lot of positives. Your point dosent need to be right to make mine wrong. I'm confident enough the performances will follow. All we need is a reasonably competitive showing against Armagh and it's been a good year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 15, 2021, 10:08:23 PM
From speaking to a few players from my own club and a few from other clubs, they all have said that the set up is like night and day compared to last year. The professionalism, training, communication etc have all improved massively. They need to stay for a good few years to make a real difference though. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 10:04:35 AM
All the vibes I'm picking up are good too Jim. Nothing I say is meant to be negative. Just like every true supporter (almost 50 years at this stage lol) I see things that I comment on, hopefully in a fair and balanced manner.

The boys are new and finding their feet. None of them have any more than a couple of years managing teams and are still learning their trade. They have all the credentials to be great.

If someone on here thinks that we need a couple of extra man marking defenders (at the expense of everyone bombing forward and letting teams like Leitrim put six scores on the bounce against us when we were leading comfortably) or a few players to move the ball much much quicker than what they do...well I'm sure if the new Antrim management look in here, they won't have any objection to a bit of constructive opinion. It's nearly all good!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 16, 2021, 11:00:11 AM
bs normally you are the shining light of positivity on here yet now you seem disappointed in the manner of our promotion despite us being in the most difficult section of the league and beating teams of higher ranking. Perhaps you're not giving credit to the teams we have beaten that should be given?  Normally you are the one getting ahead of yourself, what has happened? are you ok?  :P

Antrim are playing in patches during matches but they have been full value for their wins. Plenty to work on but there is a good spread of club representation, youth and experience in there.  Reports on the set up have been positive, both codes making progression which is good for the county board as well. Progression is very welcome and it feels like a long time since an Antrim team looked like they were progressing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 16, 2021, 12:07:27 PM
I'm afraid its the doting Dad syndrome kicking in. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 12:18:17 PM
Was waiting on that coming and it's not a surprise you would think like that! Who are you doting on Creggan/Cargin man? What's your connection and we can debate that if you want to? My connection lasts a long time. Whether one of my son's is involved is irrelevant. They can talk for themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 16, 2021, 02:52:00 PM
Now BS don't be getting all thick with me. Thats why I put the winky face after it to let you know I wasn't being serious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 03:31:50 PM
Lol DK😁. I've travelled all over Ireland to watch Antrim when I've had no one involved and will no doubt do so again. I apologise if I come across as negative. If I'm being 100% honest I cannot believe why Paddy Gallagher was so callously dropped and I rate Paddy Mc Cormack very highly too. Those two, as combative tight marking corner backs are well ahead in my view of a few current selections. They never let their county down and were in top 5 players either last year or year before in my book.

It's not about any individual. It's about getting our defensive set up right before some team goes to town on us.

Feel free to agree/disagree. That's all we can do anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 16, 2021, 03:51:18 PM
I don't see every Antrim game but I would disagree on P Gallagher, there are other players in there now that have more to their game. Its not callous to wipe the slate clean and pick your own players. Haven't seen enough of young McCormack to pass comment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2021, 04:08:29 PM
cOuple of debating points

- best hunger in the team in years?
- best players finally playing
- Tyrone boys are building a CV for tyrone job?
- suprised not more Cargin boys starting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 04:39:08 PM
That's exactly the point EOC.

You're new to the inter county scene, you've got a vested interest in your own, no harm in that, but you are in no place at all to offer a constructive view on the service or dependability Paddy Gallagher consistently offered. You simply didn't see him enough. If your vested interest offered so much for so long and was as callously dismissed, I don't think you would be happy.

Paddy started and finished every game for the last 4 years and all of a sudden gets completely wiped from the scene. I don't blame McGinley. This one was down to whoever was marking his card. A certain starter, maybe not, but imo much further up the pecking order than a few who are getting game time.

All about opinions. We are a Division 3 team now, immediate objective achieved. The debate does not need to reach fever pitch. As I say it's nearly all good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 16, 2021, 05:00:20 PM
You seem to rate him highly, fair enough I have nothing against him, but I can comment I have seen him play several times. He wasn't the current management teams cup of tea and that's sport for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 05:30:02 PM
I know you are a strong advocate of youth EOC as are others. Once upon a time I managed our county under twenty ones in a few  successful challenges against our seniors. I've nothing against transition, in fact it's a necessity.

Your own lad is good enough too if I have you placed correctly. His day will come for sure.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 16, 2021, 07:18:49 PM
Did your young lad get dropped BS or is he not getting a sniff? Has anyone got a full list of the players on the panel?
I do agree with you slightly about Paddy Gallagher BS. Though I don't rate him as a good county standard footballer, he made up for it in effort and commitment. I wouldn't have him starting but would definitely have had him on the panel. Was very surprised to see he got the chop. It was ruthless enough. A lot of young players on the panel now though and still more to come in. There's always going to be a few decisions that people aren't going to be happy with but this is the most positive I have seen Antrim football in many years!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 10:35:48 PM
We would all settle for the situation we are in. Individual players might feel miffed here and there, it's happened in every team that ever existed. You either walk away or put your head down and fight harder for your place. No one has a given right to any jersey, without exception.

I applaud the vast majority of what I see and hear. I think we need to stop carrying balls into tackles, move ball a lot quicker and put a little more emphasis on direct man marking. Apart from that, carry on regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2021, 10:37:53 PM
Tonight we had a good tussle with Rossa. Not much between us. Good to get back out and watch football on a summer evening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 17, 2021, 09:59:43 AM
BS agree with you that Paddy McCormick was a surprise, certainly as a panel member and would have learned a lot this year but of course there are only so many places.  Don't necessarily agree with you regarding Paddy Gallagher and being cut from a squad when nrs are being trimmed is always brutal. I'm not sure there is really a good way of telling someone they don't fit after trials? 

The management had a clean slate without the baggage of yesteryear and they have shown that with their selections.  It must also be clear that we are talking about 2 potential squad players, not definite starters or stars of the team.

I agree with you the defence needs tightening. Whether the full back line is being exposed at times due to playing a new system with new players, under a new manager and requiring it to bed in, or the personnel need adjusting is one that we will find out in the coming weeks / next year - one thing for sure is there are very hungry players on the subs bench wanting to seize their chance - Nice problem to have. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 17, 2021, 11:19:28 AM
Come on lads, if we are serious about the County senior footballers progressing then there should be no eyebrows raised at Paddy Gallagher not being involved. He was no where near inter county level I'm afraid. I'm sure you couldn't fault his attitude and commitment over the years but is that isn't enough. Patrick McCormick has pace and undoubted ability but has a lot of learning to do from what I've seen of him. Game intelligence and decisions on the ball are suspect but he has great room for development and great raw materials so I think Enda is managing him well and he'll be the better for it if he gets the head down and puts the work in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2021, 11:37:07 AM
Bit harsh on Paddy G, he was definitely one of our better performers these last few years. I'm not sure he actually got a trial, could be wrong though on that!

Transition is necessary, new management need to be blooding players they think will be staples in the coming years. I understand that. All about opinions and overall the progress report is positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 17, 2021, 04:01:33 PM
Gallagher was told he was surplus to requirements before the trials had even concluded. Very harsh on a player who served the county well and never let the side down. At the time it looked like a statement from the new management team.

McGinley seems to prefer attacking style defenders which is fair enough. Paddy would not fit this description. However, even Stevie Wonder can see we have no chance of staying in D3 next year unless we tighten up at the back next year. Not saying Paddy G is the solution but the problem does need addressed somehow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2021, 04:54:48 PM
It's important we can come on here and have a fairly sensible discussion about all things related to Antrim football without getting hysterical. A comment or two that we could tighten up defensively does not necessarily equate to what some may deem to be negative criticism. We all want the same result, an Antrim football team we can all get behind and support to the hilt.

Theres a range of people on here from experienced players and managers, officials, journalists poking for a story, newcomers to the county scene or ones just out of school  joining over from Hoganstand. Theres barristers and bin lids.
No one has all the answers, it's all about opinions.

To change the subject, if you were picking the Antrim team who is the one player you would pick that's not on the panel?  No unduly negative criticism please, that would be cheap considering the player cannot defend himself!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2021, 04:57:28 PM
I'll kick this off myself. AND STILL the undefeated best ball winning forward in the county, the one and only Kevin Niblock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 18, 2021, 08:48:01 AM
Fitzpatrick - quite possibly the best player in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2021, 07:48:08 AM
Not too many would argue that point Caesar. There's a handful  can think of would be equal in ability to those on the panel, and wouldn't be out of place there. But not too many jumping out at me that who are missing that would go straight into the team.

Theres a few hurlers who can play big ball at that level if they could give it the same dedication. Hypothetical I know. Keelan Coby Gerard Walsh Niall Mc Kenna Seann Elliott come to mind.

Paddy Mc Aleer an obvious exception if he returned from Dubai or wherever he is. Would fit into that team seamlessly imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2021, 09:00:42 AM
No Rossa lads BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2021, 03:25:24 PM
100% yes. There's one mentioned above plus half a dozen others that wouldn't be out of place. SB, MA, and at least three from last year's under 20s. Crickey too. Plenty of quality players at Rossa. Plus of course Michael Byrne.

Rossa at full strength will take a fair bit of beating!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 21, 2021, 09:58:47 AM
Well 2 players we have yet to see kick a ball competitively for Antrim this season yet are Pat Shivers & Mick McCann. Both would significantly improve the starting 15 going in against Armagh if fit, but from what I hear it will be too soon for both unfortunately!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2021, 11:13:59 AM
Agree. Will be next year for the pair of them at this stage by the look of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on June 21, 2021, 11:30:16 AM
Colm Duffin Good work rate in middle 3rd, 3-4 years+ inter County S&C, chips in to keep score board ticking

Has a few years left in front of him and could get up to the level quickly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2021, 05:11:27 PM
Never looked out of place at any stage in the three or four years he was a regular . Still in his prime. Good call Flanker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 22, 2021, 11:13:01 PM
Does anyone have a full Antrim squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 23, 2021, 12:10:27 AM
He never looked out of place, jez grow set. Not near it. Thank god none of you r taking the team with some of the names your throwing around. Fitzy and Mc Cormick. End of. Mick and big Pat I'm lead to believe are on the panel injured. IMO Fitzy is the best footballer in Antrim by a slight margin over the aging but peerless Mc Cann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 23, 2021, 09:24:46 AM
Hard to disagree DK. What are peoples thoughts going into the Armagh game then in terms of a starting 15? For me the problem areas for us will be at 3 and 6. I think these 2 areas are where we need to find diamonds in the rough or convert existing squad members longer term. I don't want to discredit the lads who have played in those positions to date in the league, but I think Armagh in an Ulster championship is a different animal to a division 4 match against a Waterford or Sligo. Could McKeever play 6 if McCann or Shivers come into midfield next season? Could Mick McCann dictate a game from centre half back perhaps? Would Paddy McBride suit it? I wouldn't mind seeing how any of those worked out if given the chance. But as for full back I'm not sure what the answer is. McAuley has worked well at corner back in my opinion, however for Armagh I wouldn't object to seeing him back at 6 with maybe McCormick in at corner back. There is still a rawness to him but pace and aggression he certainly does not lack and both will be required against a fit and powerful Armagh side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 23, 2021, 12:58:32 PM
Agree with you totally NSS especially with the two O'Neills lining up directly in them positions. Both physically strong and quick.

The whole Armagh forward line will be hard to match up with the pace they have but again they are a Div 1 team and that's what is out there. Up to our boys to match it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2021, 03:43:10 PM
Them O'Neills are great footballers. I like to see them play against other counties but not so sure about our own lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 23, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
If we get our line ups right and don't go too gung ho going forward we should be competitive. Everything else is a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on June 29, 2021, 07:30:30 AM
Back to Casement & Gaelfast.
I heard rumours that Casement has been given the green light to proceed. No proof yet to share.
Gaelfast, I see that Bukey from LD has retired from teaching - Surely he would be ideal to keep Gaelfast running in the short term.  An experienced Gael, coach teacher and media savvy to boot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2021, 10:04:21 AM
100% the right man. No brainer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 29, 2021, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 29, 2021, 07:30:30 AM
Back to Casement & Gaelfast.
I heard rumours that Casement has been given the green light to proceed. No proof yet to share.
Gaelfast, I see that Bukey from LD has retired from teaching - Surely he would be ideal to keep Gaelfast running in the short term.  An experienced Gael, coach teacher and media savvy to boot.

Jesus give the man a chance to enjoy his summer off  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 29, 2021, 11:30:10 AM
Re Sunday, its true of course that the mission has been accomplished for the season, promotion and a higher playing field next year. True too that no one expects us to beat Armagh, and certainly not in the Armagh camp. No matter what the public utterances are it almost inevitable they are eyeing up a semi final. So we may not win, we will be competitive, and hopefully keep the game alive well into the second half. If so, there will come a moment when the big prize presents itself and you never know...it happened in 2009 when Tomas took the goal that changed the game; happened in that crazy match in 2014 v Fermanagh; it was even there for us last year v Cavan with the Gallagher goal effort that would have swung that game.

You get the feeling there will be a moment of opportunity, and hopefully we take it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 29, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 29, 2021, 11:30:10 AM
Re Sunday, its true of course that the mission has been accomplished for the season, promotion and a higher playing field next year. True too that no one expects us to beat Armagh, and certainly not in the Armagh camp. No matter what the public utterances are it almost inevitable they are eyeing up a semi final. So we may not win, we will be competitive, and hopefully the game alive well into the second half. If so, there will come a moment when the big prize presents itself and you never know...it happened in 2009 when Tomas took the goal that changed the game; happened in that crazy match in 2014 v Fermanagh; it was even there for us last year v Cavan with the Gallagher goal effort that would have swung that game.

You get the feeling there will be a moment of opportunity, and hopefully we take it.

Loving the optimism there Brendan, hope you are right!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 29, 2021, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 29, 2021, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on June 29, 2021, 07:30:30 AM
Back to Casement & Gaelfast.
I heard rumours that Casement has been given the green light to proceed. No proof yet to share.
Gaelfast, I see that Bukey from LD has retired from teaching - Surely he would be ideal to keep Gaelfast running in the short term.  An experienced Gael, coach teacher and media savvy to boot.

Jesus give the man a chance to enjoy his summer off  ;)
Recently retired Sean Fleming and Pete Buchanan woyld be great for Gaelfast Belfast - they know Belfast GAA inside out and would know immediatley the issues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2021, 07:57:06 PM
Pete lol. No doubt, two good men that would have the interest experience and skillset to get the job delivered alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Take_her_back_ref on July 02, 2021, 08:10:41 AM
I see CJ McGourty is transferring his allegiance from St Gall's to Ardboe. Big loss to St Gall's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on July 02, 2021, 01:13:47 PM
Not anymore. Overall a wasted talent to, one of the best minor  footballers in Ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on July 02, 2021, 06:17:22 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on July 02, 2021, 01:13:47 PM
Not anymore. Overall a wasted talent to, one of the best minor  footballers in Ireland.

Watch football for a long time as a Kerry man he had everything ... but again it's this Ulster thing ... he won a club all Ireland played in another .. many ulster clubs scored 1-4 - 1-2 from play against Cavan one day ... Jesus u lads need a reality check.. many all Ireland winners (club) in Kerry and u constantly get at lads like this that's why ur going nowhere... I suppose the gaa Moto comes in "give respect get respect"

A lads memories of an Antrim team that has an all Ireland club and then u have a disfunction county team ah lads, come on some respect now, madness !! This is Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on July 02, 2021, 06:56:12 PM
Read that a couple of times and still doesn't make sense. Well seen the pubs are open again  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on July 02, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on July 02, 2021, 06:56:12 PM
Read that a couple of times and still doesn't make sense. Well seen the pubs are open again  ;D

Ok negative hater what I am saying is your so called wisdom misplaced name me an Antrim player with more medals or individual achievements .... I don't thing u get too many maybe a couple of his mates but again Antrim people don't Accept those in their own life that have achieved highest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 02, 2021, 10:44:48 PM
Jaysus, looks like Samuel Beckett is back among us and sending message to Antrim GAA Board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 02, 2021, 11:06:37 PM
Can someone translate that please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 03, 2021, 12:17:59 AM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on July 02, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on July 02, 2021, 06:56:12 PM
Read that a couple of times and still doesn't make sense. Well seen the pubs are open again  ;D

Ok negative hater what I am saying is your so called wisdom misplaced name me an Antrim player with more medals or individual achievements .... I don't thing u get too many maybe a couple of his mates but again Antrim people don't Accept those in their own life that have achieved highest

Ach shure lookit Des
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on July 03, 2021, 12:45:02 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 02, 2021, 10:44:48 PM
Jaysus, looks like Samuel Beckett is back among us and sending message to Antrim GAA Board.

This is not the SDLP lies Brendan, again Antrim people abusing people that have won stuff and you constantly abuse
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on July 03, 2021, 12:49:52 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 02, 2021, 11:06:37 PM
Can someone translate that please

Translate what??  winners are winners - Antrim never won anything of note so don't abuse people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on July 03, 2021, 12:53:43 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 02, 2021, 11:06:37 PM
Can someone translate that please

Look I don't really care but he's more all Ireland seniors than David Clifford and u people abuse shows where u going in Kerry we support are players absolute nonsense I will not comment again...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on July 03, 2021, 02:09:08 AM
Must be pint 10 you are on. What abuse are you talking about? Did you rate him? Talk sense.

All I said was, I believe he wasted his potential. One of the best players about at minor but never truely kicked on. Yes he won a club AI but so have a lot of club players. He had potential to be one of the best in the country but never happened.

Every Corofin footballer isn't an unbelievable player just because they won a few AI's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on July 03, 2021, 09:44:54 AM
Any team news for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2021, 10:08:27 AM
I know it but not my place to name it here. Should be in today's papers though. Very little change from the Waterford starting line up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2021, 10:12:40 AM
Paul would be a fantastic choice to lead Gaelfast. I hope he has his application in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2021, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 03, 2021, 10:08:27 AM
I know it but not my place to name it here. Should be in today's papers though. Very little change from the Waterford starting line up.

Did mick McCann start against Waterford?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2021, 04:33:06 PM
No MR. Neither Mick or Sweeney played any league football at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 07:11:28 PM
is their promotion in divs 2 and 3 this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2021, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 07:11:28 PM
is their promotion in divs 2 and 3 this year?

Saffron Gael had a great piece on Tir Na Og winning the league. One team goes up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 03, 2021, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2021, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 07:11:28 PM
is their promotion in divs 2 and 3 this year?

Saffron Gael had a great piece on Tir Na Og winning the league. One team goes up

Div3 had semi finals today for top 4 teams.
Pearses pulled off a big win over Antrim( who were unbeaten)
Rasharkin beat Lisburn by 1 pt.

Pearses v Rasharkin on Wed evening, winner promoted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 03, 2021, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2021, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 07:11:28 PM
is their promotion in divs 2 and 3 this year?

Saffron Gael had a great piece on Tir Na Og winning the league. One team goes up

Div3 had semi finals today for top 4 teams.
Pearses pulled off a big win over Antrim( who were unbeaten)
Rasharkin beat Lisburn by 1 pt.

Pearses v Rasharkin on Wed evening, winner promoted
the culchies will win that one id say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 03, 2021, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 03, 2021, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2021, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 03, 2021, 07:11:28 PM
is their promotion in divs 2 and 3 this year?

Saffron Gael had a great piece on Tir Na Og winning the league. One team goes up

Div3 had semi finals today for top 4 teams.
Pearses pulled off a big win over Antrim( who were unbeaten)
Rasharkin beat Lisburn by 1 pt.

Pearses v Rasharkin on Wed evening, winner promoted
the culchies will win that one id say

Be tight ...pearses won league game at cricky by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 04, 2021, 09:11:32 AM
Surprised that there is absolutely no chat at all on here about our big game today against Armagh. I'm heading down with one wish, that our pride is still intact after the game....anything more than that is a bonus. Good luck to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on July 04, 2021, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 04, 2021, 09:11:32 AM
Surprised that there is absolutely no chat at all on here about our big game today against Armagh. I'm heading down with one wish, that our pride is still intact after the game....anything more than that is a bonus. Good luck to everyone involved.

Bannside I think there is serious apprehension. Although we achieved objective of promotion from Div 4 conceding big scores would be a big concern. When you consider the tanking Sligo took as well. Armagh have been grinding forward slowly over the last few years and now have a few quality forwards. On our side we have only 5 starters from Cavan game and 4 from the qualifier the previous year against kildare I think. There will be a big gap in physical conditioning and Armagh's forwards will cause huge problems for a less than convincing defence. I sense concern in your post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 04, 2021, 01:42:11 PM
Win win for Aghagallon today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 04, 2021, 01:49:02 PM
I've expressed concerns over our shoot the lights out policy and it was taken up by some as unjustified criticism. I like forwards who can attack but expect them to do their defensive duties first and foremost. I've seen all games this year to date and have fears that we need to improve our defensive thinking. Will be interested to see today if there is any movement in that regard.

It's 15 v 15 and you would hope we can deliver a competitive account of ourselves. Everyone will be happy with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 04, 2021, 04:22:03 PM
Very positive at half time here. Every player busting a gut and do far so good. Defensively sound to date and controlling our share of the game. Come on Saffrons, need a good start to second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 04, 2021, 04:57:15 PM
We were well in this for 3/4 of the game. Scoreline unfair on Antrim but mistakes get punished. Loads to build on for Div 3 campaign next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 04, 2021, 04:58:26 PM
Ran out of steam in the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: StPatsAbu on July 04, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
Referee should be wearing an Armagh jersey ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RedHand88 on July 04, 2021, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on July 04, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
Referee should be wearing an Armagh jersey ffs

13 points loss. There's no referee saving that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 04, 2021, 05:09:42 PM
They looked exhausted there at the end. Nothing to do with the referee. Overall a good season though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 04, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
A different ref wouldn't have changed the outcome, but he gave Armagh some very soft frees and very questionable decisions when our lads getting fouled. Plus the over carrying rule only applied to one team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 04, 2021, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 04, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
A different ref wouldn't have changed the outcome, but he gave Armagh some very soft frees and very questionable decisions when our lads getting fouled. Plus the over carrying rule only applied to one team.
A couple of very harsh ones in the first half especially
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
refereeing is get worse and wiht all the money that gets spent on it too
Michael Mccann brilliant - Paddy Cunningham hurt?
couldn't fault the effort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 04, 2021, 08:05:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 04, 2021, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 04, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
A different ref wouldn't have changed the outcome, but he gave Armagh some very soft frees and very questionable decisions when our lads getting fouled. Plus the over carrying rule only applied to one team.
A couple of very harsh ones in the first half especially

Some harsh decisions definitely went against Antrim on a number of occasions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
refereeing is get worse and wiht all the money that gets spent on it too
Michael Mccann brilliant - Paddy Cunningham hurt?
couldn't fault the effort

How much is being spent on it? Curious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 04, 2021, 08:10:47 PM
Some would say the grammar is getting no better either

Hurson was poor today start of the second half he moved the ball at least 20 yards up the pitch on an Armagh free, unfortunately, like the Whitehill ref the game has to be all about him

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
refereeing is get worse and wiht all the money that gets spent on it too
Michael Mccann brilliant - Paddy Cunningham hurt?
couldn't fault the effort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 04, 2021, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 04, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
A different ref wouldn't have changed the outcome, but he gave Armagh some very soft frees and very questionable decisions when our lads getting fouled. Plus the over carrying rule only applied to one team.

Couldn't agree more. Very frustrating. Don't think anyone saying that it would have changed the game/result but that really was an example of one rule for one and one for another. I do believe that smaller teams get penalised a bit harder than the bigger ones..."ach sure they're bound to be overcarrying...".
Sweeney's black card incident was a mistimed shoulder and not a trip (in my view)...down the field a few minutes later and Armagh dragged someone (Conor Murray??) down, which is exactly the reason the black card was brought in.

Decent, composed performance in first half...second half might always have been coming. Fairly well trodden view but promotion was the aim. Need to be playing at a higher level more consistently.

The O'Neills of Armagh look good and they just have too much back up on a number of fronts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 04, 2021, 08:25:39 PM
We're on an upward curve and it would have been a good year for a tip at the qualifiers - the more time the players have with O'Neill and McGinley the better.  Hopefully they stick around for a while and keep building. And hopefully they'll keep trawling for new blood.  The patronising is sickening, but until we get a few results under our belts over a number of seasons we'll always be Cinderella.  Put up a better fight than Down and Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MK on July 04, 2021, 08:38:31 PM
Antrim undoubtedly on an upward curve and with a goalkeeper of the calibre of their opponents today would have been much closer. As for comparisons with Down, they have a massive advantage as far as their midfield pairing. Also their forward unit is superior to Fermanagh's current choice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 04, 2021, 08:55:00 PM
The good thing though is we made a few friends amongst the neutrals, and despite shipping 4-15 I don't think Pat Spillane will be having his annual rant. First half 9/10 as good a 35 mins as I've seen for a long time.

Second half 3/10. We ran out of steam, fresh legs obviously needed, changes too slow to happen. Why was Ryan Murray taken off, that was a very strange call as he was still going strong! Was that decision made before the game? Sweeney looked good, Conor Small too when introduced. But too little too late, so many were flagging at that point.

A lot of boys died out there with their boots on. Some great individual performances and if we manage to tweak our defensive policy a bit we can make proper progress next year.

Bring on the club scene now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
refereeing is get worse and wiht all the money that gets spent on it too
Michael Mccann brilliant - Paddy Cunningham hurt?
couldn't fault the effort

How much is being spent on it? Curious
Elite panel of 16 refs getting paid @12k each with constant briefings lead by Pat McEnaney - probably spelt that wrong too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
refereeing is get worse and wiht all the money that gets spent on it too
Michael Mccann brilliant - Paddy Cunningham hurt?
couldn't fault the effort

How much is being spent on it? Curious
Elite panel of 16 refs getting paid @12k each with constant briefings lead by Pat McEnaney - probably spelt that wrong too!

Is that wage on top of their expenses? Is there a link to that? Would like to see these top 16.. I take it that's 8 football 8 hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:16:48 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-announces-referee-panel-for-championship-2019/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 04, 2021, 09:27:43 PM
Still doesn't say anything about cash etc, a championship panel isn't anything new
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 04, 2021, 09:34:37 PM
Come on MR2 don't let the truth or fact get in the way of a good story

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Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret

Ah, that's ok then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on July 05, 2021, 09:11:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret

Ah, that's ok then

Pure, undiluted BS, this is not the case
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on July 05, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret

I can confirm your 'reliable source' if full of sh*t, as are you coming on here and spouting such nonsense which I suspect you know is rubbish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 05, 2021, 10:01:32 AM
Not to pick an argument here BS, however we have had a club scene for the majority of players over the last few months, we should not ignore the grassroots which has men, woman and children out on our pitches almost every night

Quote from: bannside on July 04, 2021, 08:55:00 PM
The good thing though is we made a few friends amongst the neutrals, and despite shipping 4-15 I don't think Pat Spillane will be having his annual rant. First half 9/10 as good a 35 mins as I've seen for a long time.

Second half 3/10. We ran out of steam, fresh legs obviously needed, changes too slow to happen. Why was Ryan Murray taken off, that was a very strange call as he was still going strong! Was that decision made before the game? Sweeney looked good, Conor Small too when introduced. But too little too late, so many were flagging at that point.

A lot of boys died out there with their boots on. Some great individual performances and if we manage to tweak our defensive policy a bit we can make proper progress next year.

Bring on the club scene now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 05, 2021, 10:25:40 AM
True and fair comment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 05, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
Yesterday was a very encouraging display, we did a lot of good things and for long periods looked very capable of going toe to toe.  Mistakes were punished and I suppose that's the difference in the grades where these 2 teams operate in.   Physically I thought Antrim looked competitive (hurlers also this year) so we are getting there. As BS said, defensive tweaks needed but a lot of intelligence displayed by Antrim.  Belief understandably waned once Armagh bagged a couple of goals but a very encouraging performance in the main.

We cannot stand still.  Hopefully they will get a proper pre-season next year.  The full panel need to buy in for next year, understand its the beginning of the rise and the work starts today. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 05, 2021, 11:00:48 AM
To the point I think BS was trying to make, do we know when Club Championship will begin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 05, 2021, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on July 05, 2021, 11:00:48 AM
To the point I think BS was trying to make, do we know when Club Championship will begin?

Think its around mid August.


A good first half yesterday, as already pointed out the seriously stupid mistake for the second gl made it impossible and the game just ran out. Promotion achieved, well done, thank god to get out of that division. Some positives yesterday, especially the first half. How a few players remained on the pitch was puzzling, thats all I will say on that matter. Our conditioning needs to improve and hopefully expect it will. It also highlights how crap our previous conditioning was under the previous management as these lads are more or less starting from scratch this year. Big league campaign needed this incoming season, a few changes needed as well to personnel to improve the team. The players are there to improve. Pity Fity wouldn't commit, serious loss. However lets concentrate on who is there. there's definitely a good spirit there and thats key to continued progression
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 03:16:59 PM
I'm not going to have a dig at previous managements as where do I stop? Seeing we've been down so long...

Strength and conditioning and getting to a level is a joint thing. Players at county level regardless of the grade they are in should be looking at what can improve their strength core and conditioning...

I could print off a program but if a player only goes half assed at it then it's the players fault.

I'd say in the last ten years or more there has been strength and conditioning coaches on board. The main problem was the execution of the program. And that's 70/30 thing, players have to take responsibility of how they look after themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2021, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret

I can confirm your 'reliable source' if full of sh*t, as are you coming on here and spouting such nonsense which I suspect you know is rubbish.
Full of s?
Ok so u have to do the following on the elite panel
- higher level of fitness than bog standard club ref
- attend weekly reviews in peak season
- referee in front of thousands
- shuttle up and down to croke
I've no objection to these guys getting 1k s month just expect better performances . For those who think they get nothing extra , Lagan bubble as they say in belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 05, 2021, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 03:16:59 PM
I'm not going to have a dig at previous managements as where do I stop? Seeing we've been down so long...

Strength and conditioning and getting to a level is a joint thing. Players at county level regardless of the grade they are in should be looking at what can improve their strength core and conditioning...

I could print off a program but if a player only goes half assed at it then it's the players fault.

I'd say in the last ten years or more there has been strength and conditioning coaches on board. The main problem was the execution of the program. And that's 70/30 thing, players have to take responsibility of how they look after themselves.
Same goes for referees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 05, 2021, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 03:16:59 PM
I'm not going to have a dig at previous managements as where do I stop? Seeing we've been down so long...

Strength and conditioning and getting to a level is a joint thing. Players at county level regardless of the grade they are in should be looking at what can improve their strength core and conditioning...

I could print off a program but if a player only goes half assed at it then it's the players fault.

I'd say in the last ten years or more there has been strength and conditioning coaches on board. The main problem was the execution of the program. And that's 70/30 thing, players have to take responsibility of how they look after themselves.
Same goes for referees

We can talk about referees or we can talk about the subject?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2021, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret

I can confirm your 'reliable source' if full of sh*t, as are you coming on here and spouting such nonsense which I suspect you know is rubbish.
Full of s?
Ok so u have to do the following on the elite panel
- higher level of fitness than bog standard club ref
- attend weekly reviews in peak season
- referee in front of thousands
- shuttle up and down to croke
I've no objection to these guys getting 1k s month just expect better performances . For those who think they get nothing extra , Lagan bubble as they say in belfast

So, do you have a list or even a reliable link to this information? I'm curious to see who these elite refs are .. so 8 football 8 hurling? Do they get paid 1k per month on top of their expenses?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 05, 2021, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2021, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
Sorry don't have latest list

2019?
It doesn't mention this 12 grand they are getting either.. you must have read it somewhere
a reliable source told me - its no big secret

I can confirm your 'reliable source' if full of sh*t, as are you coming on here and spouting such nonsense which I suspect you know is rubbish.
Full of s?
Ok so u have to do the following on the elite panel
- higher level of fitness than bog standard club ref
- attend weekly reviews in peak season
- referee in front of thousands
- shuttle up and down to croke
I've no objection to these guys getting 1k s month just expect better performances . For those who think they get nothing extra , Lagan bubble as they say in belfast

So, do you have a list or even a reliable link to this information? I'm curious to see who these elite refs are .. so 8 football 8 hurling? Do they get paid 1k per month on top of their expenses?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 05, 2021, 08:24:02 PM
I read an article in the Irish Examiner , recently, about umpires and it quoted an Inter County ref saying he gets €120 per game + 50 cent mile/ km for travel + food allowance.
A linesman in Irish League gets £75 plus travel !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 08:54:15 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 05, 2021, 08:24:02 PM
I read an article in the Irish Examiner , recently, about umpires and it quoted an Inter County ref saying he gets €120 per game + 50 cent mile/ km for travel + food allowance.
A linesman in Irish League gets £75 plus travel !

But there are 16 elite referees getting 12 grand a year on top of the games they do!

As for the inter county referee let's take an example of a typical day...

You live Ballycastle, pick up you're 4 umpires and head off to Mayo for a division 3 hurling game. 4 hour journey for a 2pm throw in! He's to be there 1 hour before (minimum) that's leaving around or before 9 in the morning and not getting home before 10 as I'm sure they'll stop off and have lunch that'll be paid for by the ref, that's minimum £70 for lunch. If they are getting €120 for refereeing that's less that €10 an hour!

Fuel and wear and tear, you're car takes some hammering with 5 people in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 05, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
I think you may be annoyed that you can't get your snout in the trough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 05, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
I think you may be annoyed that you can't get your snout in the trough

You can get more money flipping burgers, without the hassle.

So you never got back to me on you're daft response earlier, doesn't surprise me though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 06, 2021, 12:53:49 AM
I think you're just pissed at not being in the £12k a year gang....its impacting on your good humour
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2021, 07:22:58 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 06, 2021, 12:53:49 AM
I think you're just pissed at not being in the £12k a year gang....its impacting on your good humour

Yes, I'm pissed because I'm not part of something I've never applied for! New levels of stupid, even for you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 06, 2021, 01:48:44 PM
You referred to S&C and lads not committed to program. I simply pointed out that the same applies to refs. Just an opinion however your always attack in your replies and I am now 'stupid'. Ha ha
Regarding the elite ref panel that you didn't apply to,... maybe it was your S&C level or the fact that it was invitation only and based on assessments.
Hence no invite.
That's my point finished. Debate over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2021, 05:48:49 PM
I never applied nor would I. You don't have to be asked either.

As for my fitness, those levels are still quite high, marathons half Maratha and ten k races when I stopped playing in my 40's, triathlons throughout Ireland also for many years.

Im happy enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 06, 2021, 09:43:24 PM
Oh it's got bitchy! How much do U experts think the elite panel coin in then? Since I'm a spoofer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2021, 10:09:08 PM
If Hurson is one, too much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on July 07, 2021, 05:48:03 AM
You don't apply for the elite panel of Referees, you are selected to go forward, initially to your Provincial Panel then to the National panel which then selects its panel for the championship " Elite", never liked that word!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 07, 2021, 08:24:31 AM
Ok so lets work on your logic, these guys get 12k per annum i.e. that is £1k per month, however what does not stack up for me is that the 'Elite' i.e. the Championship panel for refs is not named until one month before the Championship, so with a Championship season of 3/4 months these guys are actually getting somewhere between 3/4k a month..........nice work if you can get it or is the Championship panel that pre-determined that it is a open secret all year round?

Also as MR2 has stated, even if they were getting £1k per month and say in the like of David Gough who could be in Cork one week, Donegal the next week and Mayo the next week on top of all these clandestine meetings you speak off, all of a sudden £1k does not seem like a lot of money. I know my car doesn't run on air, however who knows with yours Belfast GAA man.

On top of that look at the abuse Owens is taking for his error in the Tipp game, do you think the few crumbs left over after genuine expenses would pay a man to be abused by people like you never mind travel the country missing out on family events, not seeing their kids for full Saturdays or Sundays is the reason they ref, no, in my opinion like players they ref because they love the game and it is in their blood. By the way the love of the game is as strong for me for our average club ref who say gives up his evening to go out and do say Aggies v Eir Og, and don't even give me nonsense about expenses there as I doubt they are anywhere near £1K a year never mind month.

Anyway, are you a Spoofer? Who knows, however you certainly do a good impression of one.

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 06, 2021, 09:43:24 PM
Oh it's got bitchy! How much do U experts think the elite panel coin in then? Since I'm a spoofer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on July 08, 2021, 12:30:05 PM
Leagues are wrapped up now and was great to see the games back again after a long lockdown. Anyone found out anything out of the ordinary after watching the games? St.Brigids and Rossa gave the leagues a fair go so will be interesting to see if that can continue!

Championship will be interesting as again no one can really use the league to base form on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on July 08, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
St.Brigids gave a decent enough stab at it though still came up short against a much depleted Cargin side a week or two back and I dont expect much more from them in championship to what they've shown in the league. Rossa have the potential to cause an upset once the knockout stages arrive so that will be interesting. However, the form and condition of the lamh dhearg county men for me are what is going to make this battle very interesting this year. I see only Creggan alongside Cargin and the Lamhs getting anywhere near the big one, everyone else is streaks behind this season I'm afraid. Nothing new then  ::)  PG1 seem to have taken a backward step which is a shame as they looked like they were building a legitimate assault the last couple of seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 08, 2021, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on July 07, 2021, 08:24:31 AM
Ok so lets work on your logic, these guys get 12k per annum i.e. that is £1k per month, however what does not stack up for me is that the 'Elite' i.e. the Championship panel for refs is not named until one month before the Championship, so with a Championship season of 3/4 months these guys are actually getting somewhere between 3/4k a month..........nice work if you can get it or is the Championship panel that pre-determined that it is a open secret all year round?

Also as MR2 has stated, even if they were getting £1k per month and say in the like of David Gough who could be in Cork one week, Donegal the next week and Mayo the next week on top of all these clandestine meetings you speak off, all of a sudden £1k does not seem like a lot of money. I know my car doesn't run on air, however who knows with yours Belfast GAA man.

On top of that look at the abuse Owens is taking for his error in the Tipp game, do you think the few crumbs left over after genuine expenses would pay a man to be abused by people like you never mind travel the country missing out on family events, not seeing their kids for full Saturdays or Sundays is the reason they ref, no, in my opinion like players they ref because they love the game and it is in their blood. By the way the love of the game is as strong for me for our average club ref who say gives up his evening to go out and do say Aggies v Eir Og, and don't even give me nonsense about expenses there as I doubt they are anywhere near £1K a year never mind month.

Anyway, are you a Spoofer? Who knows, however you certainly do a good impression of one.

Abused by people like me? i said they are entitled to 12k a year and we are entitleD to good refereeing. I am a fat fingered typist but have no doubt, David Gough, who you mentioned, in a normal years gets 12k in paymetn and expenses - Calm down lad

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 06, 2021, 09:43:24 PM
Oh it's got bitchy! How much do U experts think the elite panel coin in then? Since I'm a spoofer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 09, 2021, 09:29:08 AM
Such a shame about PG1. Have gone backwards at such a high speed too. Can't see them getting out of their group this year will be lucky to win a match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 09, 2021, 10:02:18 AM
dont write off st johns and rosa - saw both and looked strong - what are the groups?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 09, 2021, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2021, 09:29:08 AM
Such a shame about PG1. Have gone backwards at such a high speed too. Can't see them getting out of their group this year will be lucky to win a match.

Nice one Bannside!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 10, 2021, 09:44:11 AM
The new Antrim PRO seems a little less clued in than the previous one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 10, 2021, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 10, 2021, 09:44:11 AM
The new Antrim PRO seems a little less clued in than the previous one
now now - the last one was putting 40 hours plus - unrealistic to expect next one to do same as a volunteer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 10, 2021, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 10, 2021, 09:44:11 AM
The new Antrim PRO seems a little less clued in than the previous one

Was never going to live up to the expectations considering the work Sean put in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 14, 2021, 09:19:18 AM
Sean Kelly done a phenomenal job as PRO. He set the standard so high that whoever followed was always going to struggle to match.

Agree that Cargin, Creggan and LD are in pole position for this years championship. Anyone else would be a major upset
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on July 14, 2021, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2021, 09:29:08 AM
Such a shame about PG1. Have gone backwards at such a high speed too. Can't see them getting out of their group this year will be lucky to win a match.

The timbering you boys gave the Gorts last week is doing some job papering over those cracks bs  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 14, 2021, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on July 14, 2021, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2021, 09:29:08 AM
Such a shame about PG1. Have gone backwards at such a high speed too. Can't see them getting out of their group this year will be lucky to win a match.

The timbering you boys gave the Gorts last week is doing some job papering over those cracks bs  8)

Pg1 would be safer finishing her up for the year. Sure they've gone back something shocking  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 14, 2021, 06:56:31 PM
You do realise BS doesn't just stand for bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 14, 2021, 11:49:38 PM
Lol. The fun will commence in earnest in a month. Nothing up to that point will have any relevance. PG1 in the mix along with half a dozen others, with Carragan a bit ahead of the rest...but on any given day....that's what makes current Antrim club football so interesting for a change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 20, 2021, 05:19:20 PM
do u think it wise to have a club break at adult level now? my bar room sources tell me no knock out football til late sept. is it not better to run the games off as quickly as we can ? before a possible return of restrictions in Autumn - just saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 20, 2021, 06:12:56 PM
Run the competitions off quickly, Senior and Underage would be my view as covid disruption is on the way, especially when the schools go back.  Why run into the same problem as last year when some underage finals were postponed and never got played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 20, 2021, 07:01:41 PM
Championships start on 11th Aug, last round Robin game 19th Sept . FINALS 3RD Oct weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 20, 2021, 07:01:41 PM
Championships start on 11th Aug, last round Robin game 19th Sept . FINALS 3RD Oct weekend
do we need 3 months  to run off championships ? and risk them not being finished - madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 20, 2021, 07:01:41 PM
Championships start on 11th Aug, last round Robin game 19th Sept . FINALS 3RD Oct weekend
do we need 3 months  to run off championships ? and risk them not being finished - madness

Straight knock out we wouldn't, but we have the group stages which everyone felt was a great success last year considering the times, the only issues last year were on the likes of the dual clubs, and Rossa missed out I felt the most last year in this regards. their hurlers were feeling the strain of that in the semi final.

Can we change the format? Some people would be on complaining if we did, and some on complaining that we don't. there's pleasing no one these days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 21, 2021, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 20, 2021, 07:01:41 PM
Championships start on 11th Aug, last round Robin game 19th Sept . FINALS 3RD Oct weekend
do we need 3 months  to run off championships ? and risk them not being finished - madness

Straight knock out we wouldn't, but we have the group stages which everyone felt was a great success last year considering the times, the only issues last year were on the likes of the dual clubs, and Rossa missed out I felt the most last year in this regards. their hurlers were feeling the stain of that in the semi final.

Can we change the format? Some people would be on complaining if we did, and some on complaining that we don't. there's pleasing no one these days

It's an eight week programme , tied into the ulster club championship starting around 15th October. Group format was great for most clubs and raised good level of income for county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on July 21, 2021, 02:19:21 PM
We also need to consider dual clubs as well

Lot of games to be played in a three month period if you are serious about progressing in both codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2021, 09:30:21 PM
Unfortunately a bit of a hammering in the minors tonight :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2021, 09:30:21 PM
Unfortunately a bit of a hammering in the minors tonight :(

Was 1-10 to 6 points at halftime
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 21, 2021, 11:11:44 PM
It was scary how far behind Antrim were, firstly physically, secondly tactically. Donegal well drilled, Antrim not drilled at all. Worrying. I read the Antrim manager saying they had done s and c work. Having a laugh and without being cruel Antrim have taken a big step back in the quality of minor managements in last couple years and it shows.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 21, 2021, 11:44:23 PM
That minor result tonight should lead to a lot of hard questions. Our minor lads as a whole are certainly not 26 points behind Donegal. Something is badly wrong there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 11:58:08 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 22, 2021, 08:55:50 AM
That's an embarrassment to the county. 26 points defeat in an under 17 game. Shocking stuff. What is going on at juvenile level, anything?? This cannot just be brushed under the nearest carpet. Shocking!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2021, 08:59:53 AM
The u20s wasn't good either tbh.

It's the same in the hurling. We can't expect to get well beaten year on year and then suddenly be competitive with the same players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 22, 2021, 09:13:12 AM
What's going to happen though ITG. Raging at this, totally shocked beyond words. This needs to be the catalyst for something better or we are looking at another 50 years of underperformance.  Here we go again.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2021, 09:39:35 AM
The seniors this year have done well both codes - though maybe disappointing in the end up in hurling - but our underage hasn't been good.

We can't expect to be anywhere near the top level in either if we don't sort this out. We really should be better than this I would have thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on July 22, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
This won't be a surprise to anyone who has been around juvenille football in Antrim for a reasonable number of years

The whole setup is in the dark ages relative to the vast majority of progressive counties.

We have had a few bright spots most noteably last year's U20 and the same group @ Minor.

Unfortunately the leadership is not there to create the culture and environment required to develop the conveyor belt of Good rounded footballers capable of competing at inter County level.

It is the whole process and structure that is broken not just the final years @ U17 & U20

To move forward and be competitive in a Senior context this really needs a total Reset and not a patch up.

We may get the odd bright spot where we get lucky with a group of players, a good coaching setup gets real buy in or a school does really well but that seems to be the way of it .....

Hope to get lucky

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 22, 2021, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 22, 2021, 08:59:53 AM
The u20s wasn't good either tbh.

It's the same in the hurling. We can't expect to get well beaten year on year and then suddenly be competitive with the same players

I was told that Conor Stewart, Pat Shivers & Sean O Neill weren't playing in the u20 game. Thats three v good players missing. It does add perspective to the result.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 22, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 11:58:08 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, you're getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 01:20:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 22, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 11:58:08 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, you're getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.

Not you in the slightest was my post aimed at, you've reasonably put across many a decent debate with no major axe to grind over the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 22, 2021, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 01:20:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 22, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 11:58:08 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, you're getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.

Not you in the slightest was my post aimed at, you've reasonably put across many a decent debate with no major axe to grind over the years
Spot on.  Sorry, I picked you up wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on July 22, 2021, 02:29:34 PM
What's the solution to the Minor/Development squad problems? We're all quick to be 'raging' or question structures let's provide practical solutions and speak to the people in charge to see if you can influence change rather than complain. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

Let's not forget our seniors were beaten by 14 points in the championship, but a moral victory hailed all round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on July 22, 2021, 02:29:34 PM
What's the solution to the Minor/Development squad problems? We're all quick to be 'raging' or question structures let's provide practical solutions and speak to the people in charge to see if you can influence change rather than complain. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

Let's not forget our seniors were beaten by 14 points in the championship, but a moral victory hailed all round.

Schools have been the focus of Gaelfast, but at primary level so far in most parts, the wider problem Antrim has is developing better schools football in all grades, been lucky enough over the years to referee all levels of college football, the kids are properly developed in S&C and the level of football that they play is a far greater standard to what we have been used to seeing at those levels..

I've no problem in saying that we will have better county teams if we could have better development of the college game, these players progressing onto their club senior team and moving then onto the county set will bring another level to the what we have been used too, this needs to be done consistently over 10/20 years, which has been the case in Tyrone/Derry/Armagh/Fermanagh/Down... Cant remember the last entry we had at McRory cup level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2021, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on July 22, 2021, 02:29:34 PM
What's the solution to the Minor/Development squad problems? We're all quick to be 'raging' or question structures let's provide practical solutions and speak to the people in charge to see if you can influence change rather than complain. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

Let's not forget our seniors were beaten by 14 points in the championship, but a moral victory hailed all round.

Schools have been the focus of Gaelfast, but at primary level so far in most parts, the wider problem Antrim has is developing better schools football in all grades, been lucky enough over the years to referee all levels of college football, the kids are properly developed in S&C and the level of football that they play is a far greater standard to what we have been used to seeing at those levels..

I've no problem in saying that we will have better county teams if we could have better development of the college game, these players progressing onto their club senior team and moving then onto the county set will bring another level to the what we have been used too, this needs to be done consistently over 10/20 years, which has been the case in Tyrone/Derry/Armagh/Fermanagh/Down... Cant remember the last entry we had at McRory cup level
4 years ago maybe?

Over a sustained period or a one off after winning the competition below it? My point is we need to be at that level over many years. Be that with an amalgamation of schools or two, schools from city and country
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on July 22, 2021, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: Flanker on July 22, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
This won't be a surprise to anyone who has been around juvenille football in Antrim for a reasonable number of years

The whole setup is in the dark ages relative to the vast majority of progressive counties.

We have had a few bright spots most noteably last year's U20 and the same group @ Minor.

Unfortunately the leadership is not there to create the culture and environment required to develop the conveyor belt of Good rounded footballers capable of competing at inter County level.

It is the whole process and structure that is broken not just the final years @ U17 & U20

To move forward and be competitive in a Senior context this really needs a total Reset and not a patch up.

We may get the odd bright spot where we get lucky with a group of players, a good coaching setup gets real buy in or a school does really well but that seems to be the way of it .....

Hope to get lucky

Have to agree with this! As someone who was involved in volunteering for both hurling and football Dev squads at different times over the years, there's always something stopping teams progressing the way they should, and it always seems to be buy-in, or lack of! I'm all for getting the best seniors out to play, and they are our "window" for young lads looking in, but what point is there investing money into the seniors if they haven't the foundations already in place?
I've spoke with a number of people involved in the minor set ups of the past, and the lack of support and resources available to these young lads is beyond shocking.
I'd love to see a proper pathway in place for teenagers to come through where they are educated about the technical, tactical and physical aspects of the game.
Being with the squads before, I'd learned a lot from the county coaches Alfie for football and Dominic for hurling (they are now Gaelfast too I think) but it always seemed like resources were holding us back from being able to do exactly what we needed to do. This has to change!

As club people we need to take a level of responsibility for the county performances too! How many football teams have we at minor-senior that actually compete in Ulster club over the years? How many schools? Same for hurling- we play B all Ireland in that?  it's clubs that build the foundations in players before they get to school level so surely if we get it right with our teams then it makes it easier to work with players at county/school?

Easy to point the finger at Gaelfast but they don't hold the purse strings and judging by how the director left, they don't seem to be given the freedom to call the shots either! Either things change the right way or we'll be no further up the road in a decade. Leadership is key!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on July 22, 2021, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: Ciall on July 22, 2021, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: Flanker on July 22, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
This won't be a surprise to anyone who has been around juvenille football in Antrim for a reasonable number of years

The whole setup is in the dark ages relative to the vast majority of progressive counties.

We have had a few bright spots most noteably last year's U20 and the same group @ Minor.

Unfortunately the leadership is not there to create the culture and environment required to develop the conveyor belt of Good rounded footballers capable of competing at inter County level.

It is the whole process and structure that is broken not just the final years @ U17 & U20

To move forward and be competitive in a Senior context this really needs a total Reset and not a patch up.

We may get the odd bright spot where we get lucky with a group of players, a good coaching setup gets real buy in or a school does really well but that seems to be the way of it .....

Hope to get lucky

Have to agree with this! As someone who was involved in volunteering for both hurling and football Dev squads at different times over the years, there's always something stopping teams progressing the way they should, and it always seems to be buy-in, or lack of! I'm all for getting the best seniors out to play, and they are our "window" for young lads looking in, but what point is there investing money into the seniors if they haven't the foundations already in place?
I've spoke with a number of people involved in the minor set ups of the past, and the lack of support and resources available to these young lads is beyond shocking.
I'd love to see a proper pathway in place for teenagers to come through where they are educated about the technical, tactical and physical aspects of the game.
Being with the squads before, I'd learned a lot from the county coaches Alfie for football and Dominic for hurling (they are now Gaelfast too I think) but it always seemed like resources were holding us back from being able to do exactly what we needed to do. This has to change!

As club people we need to take a level of responsibility for the county performances too! How many football teams have we at minor-senior that actually compete in Ulster club over the years? How many schools? Same for hurling- we play B all Ireland in that?  it's clubs that build the foundations in players before they get to school level so surely if we get it right with our teams then it makes it easier to work with players at county/school?

Easy to point the finger at Gaelfast but they don't hold the purse strings and judging by how the director left, they don't seem to be given the freedom to call the shots either! Either things change the right way or we'll be no further up the road in a decade. Leadership is key!

Def should be better, but there is some obvious things that need to be built on, including trying to improve on structures already in place.

For example, schools football,St Mary's Magherafelt, St Patrick's Maghera, St Pius X Magherafelt, St Ronan's Lurgen, provide good college pathways for Aghagallan, Tir na Nog, Creegan, Cargin, Moneyglass, Portglenone, and potentially Rasharkin etc. Gaelfast should be focusing on Randalstown, St Pats Ballymena, etc for country football (I'm sure there are others)

In hurling, Garrontower, St Louis Ballymena, Cross and Passion and St Patricks Maghera are providing a pathway, we should be looking at supporting them even further

Same story in the city.

SO there are fragments on foundations that can be strengthened and improved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 22, 2021, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 01:20:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 22, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 11:58:08 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 21, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.
at last someone else who is living in 2021 - the format is super its just wrong year for it - championships need run off as quickly as we can and players understanD as they dont want unfinished championships

Wake up people

Send in your proposals and format with a new draw, you could possibly video it just show being fair
Its just a bit of debate and genuine comment.  No need to be patronising.

Most of your posts in fairness are sly digs at people in Gaelfast or county committees.  ;)
If that was aimed at me, you're getting mixed up. The more ideas and suggestions are thrown into the mix the better.  Nobody across our county has anything to lose from that and maybe some good ideas might emerge - imagine.

Not you in the slightest was my post aimed at, you've reasonably put across many a decent debate with no major axe to grind over the years
It was aimed at Me because he doesnt like debate  snore snore
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on July 22, 2021, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on July 22, 2021, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: Ciall on July 22, 2021, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: Flanker on July 22, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
This won't be a surprise to anyone who has been around juvenille football in Antrim for a reasonable number of years

The whole setup is in the dark ages relative to the vast majority of progressive counties.

We have had a few bright spots most noteably last year's U20 and the same group @ Minor.

Unfortunately the leadership is not there to create the culture and environment required to develop the conveyor belt of Good rounded footballers capable of competing at inter County level.

It is the whole process and structure that is broken not just the final years @ U17 & U20

To move forward and be competitive in a Senior context this really needs a total Reset and not a patch up.

We may get the odd bright spot where we get lucky with a group of players, a good coaching setup gets real buy in or a school does really well but that seems to be the way of it .....

Hope to get lucky

Have to agree with this! As someone who was involved in volunteering for both hurling and football Dev squads at different times over the years, there's always something stopping teams progressing the way they should, and it always seems to be buy-in, or lack of! I'm all for getting the best seniors out to play, and they are our "window" for young lads looking in, but what point is there investing money into the seniors if they haven't the foundations already in place?
I've spoke with a number of people involved in the minor set ups of the past, and the lack of support and resources available to these young lads is beyond shocking.
I'd love to see a proper pathway in place for teenagers to come through where they are educated about the technical, tactical and physical aspects of the game.
Being with the squads before, I'd learned a lot from the county coaches Alfie for football and Dominic for hurling (they are now Gaelfast too I think) but it always seemed like resources were holding us back from being able to do exactly what we needed to do. This has to change!

As club people we need to take a level of responsibility for the county performances too! How many football teams have we at minor-senior that actually compete in Ulster club over the years? How many schools? Same for hurling- we play B all Ireland in that?  it's clubs that build the foundations in players before they get to school level so surely if we get it right with our teams then it makes it easier to work with players at county/school?

Easy to point the finger at Gaelfast but they don't hold the purse strings and judging by how the director left, they don't seem to be given the freedom to call the shots either! Either things change the right way or we'll be no further up the road in a decade. Leadership is key!

Def should be better, but there is some obvious things that need to be built on, including trying to improve on structures already in place.

For example, schools football,St Mary's Magherafelt, St Patrick's Maghera, St Pius X Magherafelt, St Ronan's Lurgen, provide good college pathways for Aghagallan, Tir na Nog, Creegan, Cargin, Moneyglass, Portglenone, and potentially Rasharkin etc. Gaelfast should be focusing on Randalstown, St Pats Ballymena, etc for country football (I'm sure there are others)

In hurling, Garrontower, St Louis Ballymena, Cross and Passion and St Patricks Maghera are providing a pathway, we should be looking at supporting them even further

Same story in the city.

SO there are fragments on foundations that can be strengthened and improved

Excuse my ignorance but are they not already supporting them? I don't know enough about Gaelfast to say but I think I'll get the productivity cap on here and do a bit of digging. Better to find out than assume I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 22, 2021, 10:36:02 PM
We do need to squeeze every drop out of McRory football.  A handful of SW clubs benefit.  A Belfast Combined  Schools team - why not?  If we're playing hurling in Leinster why can't we think outside the box on that one.

Resources yes, but they don't grow on trees. Would be interested to hear what other county squads are getting that we don't.

But we really do need to be honest about what's happening at club level.  The standard of minor teams  is poor enough currently bar a few and I've noticed a lot of clubs where the standard just seems to have flat lined or regressed as teams have moved up through U12s, U14, U16 (17).  Is coaching poor, are the lads not that bothered because we aren't a glamour county?  I don't know but we seem to be losing ground every year.  I thought that minor squad were doing ok in previous years in development squad tournaments?  Can't understand how they got hammered although sounds like nothing went right on the night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on July 23, 2021, 07:43:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 21, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Unfortunately we didn't have the Delta variant running riot last year.  On the current trajectory, September onwards will be a big mess of positive cases and people isolating with a lot of clubs potentially disrupted.

But last year we didn't have the vaccine. Every person over the age of 18 has as of now been offered the vaccine, the rules on isolating after a close contact for those double jabbed will change next month (prob a week or 2 after England) as harsh as it sounds if a player hasn't been vaccinated and has to isolate then that's on them in my opinion. They chose not to be vaccinated so that's on them. In fact a directive from the county stating games will not be refixed for players isolating would see a big uptake in the vaccine amount younger people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on July 23, 2021, 09:30:33 AM
With all the talk of area's that antrim need to focus on to improve i think school football, development squads, underage managers etc.. all contribute to development and need seriously looked at, but the truth is with the exception of a small number of clubs, is that around antrim the footballing culture just isnt there! il be lambasted for saying that but the proofs in the pudding. How many antrim clubs are solely fooball? How many colleges/ schools whether it be mcrory, mclarnon, vocational schools do well against other schools in ulster on a consistant basis? Bar St.Galls who was the last club to win an ulster match?

How many players from intermediate down, are on that antrim footballing panel- the reason im asking is, other counties have some proloific footballers that has come from clubs playing at that level, but from my perspective i see the likes of these clubs in antrim fulfilling footballing fixtures with very little aspirations of actually producing the next Kevin Niblock, Mick McCann, Paddy Cunningham. That comes from the culture around the place, its alright going to training and playing matches and saying your a footballer, but culture comes from the home and communities which breeds aspirations for youth. In Tyrone youv an endless amount of communities that live and breathe football, Derry is the same. We need more of the likes in Antrim.

BS talks about Antrim football being competitive and on any given day, any team can win it, but in all honesty how many clubs have actually won a championship in the last 30 years? 6? 1 of which was southwest so im not sure that backs up the argument that the south west clubs are reaping the rewards of derry schools competing in mcroary football

its a fair enough point and is reflective of some of the points you all have raised with the county boards lack of investment and backing of underage set ups. If the culture was there, as it is in derry, tyrone, armagh etc.. their would be outcry the way our underage are coached/ treated and the sad truth is, thats where success starts no matter how you measure it. Paying Mcginley, Baker, Gormley etc... is fine for gaining promotion and maybe winning one qualifying match but is only papering over cracks if we cant back that up with a conveyor belt of youth that supplements a senior squad, year in year out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 23, 2021, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2021, 10:33:05 PM
Excuse my ignorance but was Gaelfast not put in place to support GAA in Belfast? As an Antrim man I don't mind it spreading its wings throughout the county but going into St. Pat's Maghera? f**k that!

And the Down parts as well, but if you can make it to take Gaelfast coaches to North Antrim, they can also make it to the Ards peninsula.

Where Gaelfast went wrong was aligning it so rigidly to Antrim CB..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2021, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 23, 2021, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2021, 10:33:05 PM
Excuse my ignorance but was Gaelfast not put in place to support GAA in Belfast? As an Antrim man I don't mind it spreading its wings throughout the county but going into St. Pat's Maghera? f**k that!

And the Down parts as well, but if you can make it to take Gaelfast coaches to North Antrim, they can also make it to the Ards peninsula.

Where Gaelfast went wrong was aligning it so rigidly to Antrim CB..

;D What do you down boys know?

(Joke - you're probably spot on to be fair)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2021, 12:52:04 PM
Whats Gaelfast up to these days? lack of communication about this flegship initiative is criminal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2021, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2021, 12:52:04 PM
Whats Gaelfast up to these days? lack of communication about this flegship initiative is criminal

Not another dig at Gaelfast?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 23, 2021, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2021, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 23, 2021, 10:50:20 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2021, 10:33:05 PM
Excuse my ignorance but was Gaelfast not put in place to support GAA in Belfast? As an Antrim man I don't mind it spreading its wings throughout the county but going into St. Pat's Maghera? f**k that!

And the Down parts as well, but if you can make it to take Gaelfast coaches to North Antrim, they can also make it to the Ards peninsula.

Where Gaelfast went wrong was aligning it so rigidly to Antrim CB..

;D What do you down boys know?

(Joke - you're probably spot on to be fair)

I know a shítshow when I see one  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2021, 03:33:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2021, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2021, 12:52:04 PM
Whats Gaelfast up to these days? lack of communication about this flegship initiative is criminal

Not another dig at Gaelfast?  ;)
genuine concern that Gaelfast oportunity is being wasted - you call it a dig  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2021, 04:24:31 PM
You could be right but when you come on and complain that people on furlough are doing no work, when they're not allowed to, on furlough then you have to wonder if they could win or not.

What looks to have not panned out very well has been since that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2021, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2021, 04:24:31 PM
You could be right but when you come on and complain that people on furlough are doing no work, when they're not allowed to, on furlough then you have to wonder if they could win or not.

What looks to have not panned out very well has been since that.
im no guru but on big initiatives u surely need to communicate regularly? to the clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 25, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-gaelic-football-is-now-just-a-shooting-contest-1.4628827

Well worth a read. Terrific narrative from Jim Mc Guinness, I think sums up more than anything the exact points I was struggling to make a month ago when putting my view across that we needed to be more defensive minded.

For me anyway Jim hits the nail on the head with this superb article in this mornings Irish Times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 25, 2021, 11:19:23 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 25, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-gaelic-football-is-now-just-a-shooting-contest-1.4628827

Well worth a read. Terrific narrative from Jim Mc Guinness, I think sums up more than anything the exact points I was struggling to make a month ago when putting my view across that we needed to be more defensive minded.

For me anyway Jim hits the nail on the head with this superb article in this mornings Irish Times.
good read thanks and clearly a very bright guy. He though admits it was crowd pleasing and enjoyable. He doesn't seem to think that's important. jim would be happy to go back to 0-4 to 0-2 matches with ferocity in tackling... sorry not for me jim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 25, 2021, 11:48:14 AM
Does it need to be one or the other? Some difference between a total of 6 points a game or 66!!! It dosent need to be a feast or a famine, does it? Surely an innovative coach would find the sweet spot between the two!

I agree it's easier on the eye, but something is definitely amiss. Games are becoming a shoot fest and I just cannot fathom why coaches leave gaps in defence that horses and carts can run through. It's not specific to any one county, everyone is at it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2021, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 25, 2021, 11:48:14 AM
Does it need to be one or the other? Some difference between a total of 6 points a game or 66!!! It dosent need to be a feast or a famine, does it? Surely an innovative coach would find the sweet spot between the two!

I agree it's easier on the eye, but something is definitely amiss. Games are becoming a shoot fest and I just cannot fathom why coaches leave gaps in defence that horses and carts can run through. It's not specific to any one county, everyone is at it!

What ever happened to marking your man? You mark your man when you've no ball whether you're a forward or back, allowing your opponent to run up the field to collect a pass freely lays squarely at the opponent's feet!

Now marking space and counterattacking seems to be the done thing, I've no problem using a sweeper system for periods to limit a better team, but with it I'm not going to win that game and all I'm doing is damaged limitations, managers teams are judged on results, not style
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 12:12:34 PM
I\ve never seen like the space Armagh gave Monaghan the other week and they still nearly won the game!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 25, 2021, 12:45:28 PM
It seems 15 years of blanket has produced a generation of backs who just can't defend unless half the team are within 20 yards helping them.  Jim is reaping what he sewed.  I'd take the Armagh Monaghan game any day rather than half-backs running up the sideline unchallenged, and then going back round on the loop when they eventually see an opponent in front of them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 25, 2021, 07:57:56 PM
Definitely not the game many of us played coached and loved. Even the goalie is in the other half. For me definitely something is missing, and JMG probably hit the nail on the head in a way I can relate.

Might as well put 15 forwards on the pitch from what I can see. Take it in turns sure!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 25, 2021, 08:09:02 PM
Ask any spectators or players do they want attacking or defensive football and the answer will be attacking. Only ones who want defensive stuff is coaches looking to show who clever they r and frig the players and supporters. Jim has had his day and no longer in demand for county jobs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2021, 08:26:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 25, 2021, 08:09:02 PM
Ask any spectators or players do they want attacking or defensive football and the answer will be attacking. Only ones who want defensive stuff is coaches looking to show who clever they r and frig the players and supporters. Jim has had his day and no longer in demand for county jobs

Ask any players do they want to win a championship, they'll all say yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 25, 2021, 08:56:59 PM
Football evolves as coaches innovate.  Surely Jim gets that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 09:23:21 PM
I think Jim did evolve it. Dublin never had gaping holes in the centre of defense like 2012 ever again. I think he gave Jim gavin a wake up call and look what happened there lol. (To be fair I think he did evolve football too with the counter attacking).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 25, 2021, 10:52:55 PM
All out defence. Then all out attack. Surely there needs to be a happy medium?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 26, 2021, 09:48:28 AM
Jim is an intelligent guy but if we let him have his way then the game would cease to be an enjoyable spectacle.  There is a happy medium and Jim's version of football is nowhere near that.  Certainly as a route to alternative tactics for individual matches it is an option, but as a full time version it has had a detrimental effect on the visual and entertainment for both the player and the supporter.  Yes we want blood and guts, pressure on the kicker but as always football evolves. Conditioning and physical strength is at a level unseen in Gaelic games, long range point scoring also to name a couple, but we need to provide entertainment also and I don't see too many complaints about the hurling scoring.  Mayo vs Leitrim is a fundamentally different problem the GAA needs to look at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2021, 10:16:52 AM
The football he played was great in whatever year they won it and the year they beat dublin however it wasn't sustainable. The fitness and conditioning those boys had was not at a level that anyone with demanding full time jobs could get. Also the AI final against Kerry was a tactical failure from him IMO.

Read the hurling threads and there are loads of complaints about the scoring spike lol.

Like we say there balance. Seems to have gone from one extreme to the other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 26, 2021, 12:05:34 PM
as you say it is all about balance.   I personally couldn't go back either to play in or to watch Jim's version of football.   There will always be snipers but the hurling entertainment product has been infinitely better than the football for a number of years now IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2021, 12:36:25 PM
Football has got it all wrong tbh. The worst is it ripples through into club. I went to an antrim division three game maybe two years ago and a team getting hammered were using about 4 sweepers. The defensive systems take massive effort to get working right and the average club team wouldn't be able to do it at all.

I still love the hurling but you get complaints on anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 27, 2021, 10:18:41 AM
Given the messages coming from our esteemed Chairman Mao in relation to Covid and the need for greater safety are we really going to go ahead with a round robin championship? half finished championship's would be less than ideal, round robin was great last year as we had no league but we had a league this year so cannot see the need for a round robin championship which may not finished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 27, 2021, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on July 27, 2021, 10:18:41 AM
Given the messages coming from our esteemed Chairman Mao in relation to Covid and the need for greater safety are we really going to go ahead with a round robin championship? half finished championship's would be less than ideal, round robin was great last year as we had no league but we had a league this year so cannot see the need for a round robin championship which may not finished.

I wouldn't mind the county players playing more than one game for the club this year. Thats the outcome of getting beat in straight knock out championship first round. with no round robin. At best playing four games if you get to the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on July 28, 2021, 01:54:31 PM
I can never understand why a few of the clubs who think they are on the cusp of winning a championship in the next few seasons would be wanting a round robin. If its for players to play in more competitive games as a learning curve then fair enough.. but the likes of Aghagallon, Caements, Johnnies should be wanting straight knock out. it means if they take a scalp there momentum could stand by them rather than having to potentially play the likes of Cargin or LD again in latter stages of championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 28, 2021, 01:58:49 PM
But there is knockout, a quater final, semifinal and final. Also and this is critical, you want some games with your own county players otherwise the split season will not work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on July 28, 2021, 02:37:37 PM
My thinking was purely based around avoiding half finished championships, look at the U20 games at the minute lots are being called off due to covid numbers peaking in their locality

As for county players getting time with their clubs, this year was (in my opinion anyway) about everyone getting football, County players have had theirs when their club mates were getting club games 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2021, 11:19:48 AM
Play them knock out, scrap that round robin nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 31, 2021, 07:58:41 PM
SO good news abou casement and goal is to have ulster championship final 2024 and no mention of first Antrim county and club games. The day we signed up for the big stadium Antrim lost Casement to the prawn sandwich eaters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2021, 08:28:55 PM
It's not our stadium now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on July 31, 2021, 08:47:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 31, 2021, 07:58:41 PM
SO good news abou casement and goal is to have ulster championship final 2024 and no mention of first Antrim county and club games. The day we signed up for the big stadium Antrim lost Casement to the prawn sandwich eaters

And to certain groups who have no interest in Gaa & are only interested in making money
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 02, 2021, 09:19:39 AM
Don't be petty, love just having something to moan about! They are obviously going to promote the biggest game as an aim. What would you rather - "Casement to be open for the first round of the Antrim Championship 2024 - Gort Na Mona v Aghagallon"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 02, 2021, 01:26:38 PM
Does anyone have a link to the master fixtures for the Championships? Been trying to find them on the county website but with no luck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2021, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 31, 2021, 07:58:41 PM
SO good news abou casement and goal is to have ulster championship final 2024 and no mention of first Antrim county and club games. The day we signed up for the big stadium Antrim lost Casement to the prawn sandwich eaters

ITG hit the nail on the head, we have lost any say in it. All these ex-players raising their profiles off the back of supporting getting it built, fail to understand that we wont have a say it.

So those great old days when every schools competition in Belfast and seemingly every juvenile match as well (going by some of the reports) are gone and not coming back. We will be lucky to get even the biggest club games in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 02, 2021, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2021, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 31, 2021, 07:58:41 PM
SO good news abou casement and goal is to have ulster championship final 2024 and no mention of first Antrim county and club games. The day we signed up for the big stadium Antrim lost Casement to the prawn sandwich eaters

ITG hit the nail on the head, we have lost any say in it. All these ex-players raising their profiles off the back of supporting getting it built, fail to understand that we wont have a say it.

So those great old days when every schools competition in Belfast and seemingly every juvenile match as well (going by some of the reports) are gone and not coming back. We will be lucky to get even the biggest club games in it.

Where are you getting this from? How do you know what will & wont be played in the new casement? Are you on your club or county committee in any capacity? If so then you will have an opportunity to have a say on most things that affect you as a gael. If you're not then I'm not sure who you are referring to when you say 'we wont have a say'?
We've had to listen to some amount of negativity around the stalled casement project over recent years, now there is serious cause for excitement and positivity and people are determined to create more negatives. Some people just love being miserable!  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 02, 2021, 04:11:39 PM
I assume that it's going to cost a few bob to open up this stadium for a game? If so how much of a capacity will be needed to cover the cost?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 02, 2021, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 02, 2021, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2021, 03:52:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 31, 2021, 07:58:41 PM
SO good news abou casement and goal is to have ulster championship final 2024 and no mention of first Antrim county and club games. The day we signed up for the big stadium Antrim lost Casement to the prawn sandwich eaters

ITG hit the nail on the head, we have lost any say in it. All these ex-players raising their profiles off the back of supporting getting it built, fail to understand that we wont have a say it.

So those great old days when every schools competition in Belfast and seemingly every juvenile match as well (going by some of the reports) are gone and not coming back. We will be lucky to get even the biggest club games in it.

Where are you getting this from? How do you know what will & wont be played in the new casement? Are you on your club or county committee in any capacity? If so then you will have an opportunity to have a say on most things that affect you as a gael. If you're not then I'm not sure who you are referring to when you say 'we wont have a say'?
We've had to listen to some amount of negativity around the stalled casement project over recent years, now there is serious cause for excitement and positivity and people are determined to create more negatives. Some people just love being miserable!  ::)

ITG is saying that this won't be Antrims stadium to decide who gets a run out in it or not and he's right.

Hard to see the South Antrim u13's getting a run out in it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2021, 05:31:44 PM
It's a fact lol.

That said I do expect our county finals and a good bit more to be played there. Just becomes more awkward to organise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 02, 2021, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 02, 2021, 05:31:44 PM
It's a fact lol.

That said I do expect our county finals and a good bit more to be played there. Just becomes more awkward to organise.

10% of gatemoney to the Ulster Council and you'll be fine.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 02, 2021, 06:36:54 PM
 Going back a few years I was assured the Antrim board of the day negotiated a "decent" deal on behalf of Antrim Gaels. More recent clarification would be welcome if there has been any change in this agreement in the intervening years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2021, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 02, 2021, 06:36:54 PM
Going back a few years I was assured the Antrim board of the day negotiated a "decent" deal on behalf of Antrim Gaels. More recent clarification would be welcome if there has been any change in this agreement in the intervening years.

BS not sure this happened. In fact was there not moves to get all say in transferred to UC which was caught on just before it was signed off.

It will become a commercial decision when it gets to be open.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 03, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
"When the axe came into the forest the trees said at least the handle is one of us", naive of you BS it must be said. Corrigan is the new County Ground, least we forget it was Antrim Gaels that funded and built casement prk. When are they going to have the stones to announce its name change? Possibly after May next year maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 03, 2021, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 03, 2021, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 02, 2021, 06:36:54 PM
Going back a few years I was assured the Antrim board of the day negotiated a "decent" deal on behalf of Antrim Gaels. More recent clarification would be welcome if there has been any change in this agreement in the intervening years.

BS not sure this happened. In fact was there not moves to get all say in transferred to UC which was caught on just before it was signed off.

It will become a commercial decision when it gets to be open.
The Ulster Council tried to coerce the Antrim County Board to sign over Casement to them as they were managing the project.

Antrim refused to do this as that would have them without a stadium.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 03, 2021, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 03, 2021, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on August 03, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
"When the axe came into the forest the trees said at least the handle is one of us", naive of you BS it must be said. Corrigan is the new County Ground, least we forget it was Antrim Gaels that funded and built casement prk. When are they going to have the stones to announce its name change? Possibly after May next year maybe?
There will be some amount of mental gymnastics before it is all over. No better organisations than Sinn Fein and the GAA to mould the thoughts of their followers though. It'll be fine.

Cultural Renaissance at its finest, like the term mould  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 03, 2021, 04:59:48 PM
who raised the do ray me to build casement in first place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2021, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 03, 2021, 04:59:48 PM
who raised the do ray me to build casement in first place?

It was dundered in, it certainly needed a permanent fix up, maybe not a 35,000 seater stadium.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 03, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
I know for a fact there was a period of hardball between newly elected Antrim officials and Ulster council  to recover or improve some of the issues the previous Antrim board had neglected. And that during this period some "decent" gains were achieved. Albeit this was about 5 years ago now, as I say an update on what exactly Antrim are entitled to would be most welcome.

Does anyone here actually know or are they just pretending to be clever?

You'de expect a high degree of access to internal competition final stages at least, all home Antrim games, a few important school matches etc. I'd be highly disappointed if this was not forthcoming.

Casement is still the home of Antrim GAA, not Corrigan.

Who pays for this, and the upkeep is another matter. The devil is in the detail!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 03, 2021, 08:08:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 03, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
I know for a fact there was a period of hardball between newly elected Antrim officials and Ulster council  to recover or improve some of the issues the previous Antrim board had neglected. And that during this period some "decent" gains were achieved. Albeit this was about 5 years ago now, as I say an update on what exactly Antrim are entitled to would be most welcome.

Does anyone here actually know or are they just pretending to be clever?

You'de expect a high degree of access to internal competition final stages at least, all home Antrim games, a few important school matches etc. I'd be highly disappointed if this was not forthcoming.

Casement is still the home of Antrim GAA, not Corrigan.

Who pays for this, and the upkeep is another matter. The devil is in the detail!

It's an embarrassing long running shambles and for politicians and Ulster Council officials to be taking to social media to praise themselves - well you just have to roll your eyes. I still think an 'Athletic Grounds' was all we ever needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 04, 2021, 01:33:54 AM
Casement Park was originally built by a massive fundraising campaign initiated in West Belfast. The funds raised were in excess of the required amount and additional land was  able to be purchased on Shaws Road. This would later be home to Rossa, St Pauls and Sarsfields.
From the recent comments on the board it would appear that Antrim Gaels feel that they have been sold down the river. If the ownership of Casement is to be moved in totality to Ulster Council then we in Antrim have sold off the family silver.
That's a slap in the face to the original Gaels who envisaged a new home for Antrim.
Its a kick in the teeth to the youth of today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 04, 2021, 06:16:25 AM
Casement is still the home of Antrim GAA, not Corrigan.

Once again BS you show your naivety, the stadium will be run and maintained by a Management Company or SPV which is a term also used. All these events such as Soccer, Rugby, Concerts, ArdFheis, Feile an Phobail (Advice Centre/Bar etc paying rent) generate income streams, which no doubt have been included within the Business Case and New Name sponsorship which will pay for the FM of the Stadium. The Devil is in the detail, and transparency over the BC shared with Antrim Gaels should have been fundamental, after all we paid for it! Some of that income may be used to maintain our new home in Corrigan .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 04, 2021, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 04, 2021, 07:21:26 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 04, 2021, 01:33:54 AM
Casement Park was originally built by a massive fundraising campaign initiated in West Belfast. The funds raised were in excess of the required amount and additional land was  able to be purchased on Shaws Road. This would later be home to Rossa, St Pauls and Sarsfields.
From the recent comments on the board it would appear that Antrim Gaels feel that they have been sold down the river. If the ownership of Casement is to be moved in totality to Ulster Council then we in Antrim have sold off the family silver.
That's a slap in the face to the original Gaels who envisaged a new home for Antrim.
Its a kick in the teeth to the youth of today
Selling the family silver is one thing. Giving it away is another. I've no sympathy at this stage. Antrim Gaels walked into this with their eyes wide open but seemingly didn't care. They deserve no better.

As regards the "good deal" bannside speaks of, one thing strikes me. The people involved in the redevelopment of Casement Park are not behind the door when it comes to giving themselves a public pat on the back at the slightest hint of a positive news story surrounding the stadium. If there was such a good deal which would invoke a positive reaction towards the stadium from Antrim Gaels, they would have been shouting it from the rooftops. Yet, in 8 years there hasn't even been the slightest whisper of it with people being fobbed off with "we've a good deal". I would suggest we don't know the detail of the deal because they don't want us to know. Certainly not at this stage anyway. That doesn't bode well.

Totally agree, the clubs have let this get away from them from day one, not holding supposed officials to account at every step who have played themselves and forwarded their own positions and agendas. If Corrigan is the new county ground and i strongly suspect it is, then the previous officials have played a blinder, bit like Linfield/IFA with Windsor Prk. Turkeys voting for Christmas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 04, 2021, 05:19:13 PM
Ok, it's obvious I have a few questions to ask. Shocked if what you're saying is true.

So our politicians weren't lobbying for the greater good of Antrim Gaels all along?

You're saying the next generation of Antrim footballers are not even going to be playing there.

If there's any truth to this, then we have been fed some misinformation. It's high time all the proper information was in the hands of Antrim Gaels. Then we could know whether or not to get excited.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 04, 2021, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 04, 2021, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 04, 2021, 05:19:13 PM
So our politicians weren't lobbying for the greater good of Antrim Gaels all along?
;D Give your head a wobble. Our politicians don't care a single jot for anyone but themselves. Look at the state of them bitching at each other over who has delivered this project, despite the fact that damn all has been delivered by anyone.
More than that, I reckon Sinn Fein have more skin in this game than you may think. They'll not only be expecting to dine at this trough but will have a big shout on what is being served for dinner too. If this isn't a base for a number of their lobby groups as well as Féile an Phobail I'll eat my Easter lily.

That's been obvious for years for anyone that has been paying attention & the Feile events that are in Falls Park will move to Casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2021, 09:48:46 PM
are we sayong St John's have lost control of their beloved Corrigan ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2021, 10:00:57 PM
you mean the county are paying st johns for using it? be surprised at that but like u comparing st johns to Linfield! lol lol lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2021, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 04, 2021, 10:53:42 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on August 04, 2021, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 04, 2021, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2021, 10:00:57 PM
you mean the county are paying st johns for using it? be surprised at that but like u comparing st johns to Linfield! lol lol lol
No, they could be taking a sizeable portion of the gate. Omagh have the same setup at Healy Park I think

No they don't. They get the pitch maintenance paid for though.
They take the half time draw too? They get bantered about such anyway.

Nearly sure there was a club that did the draw at Casement for years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 06, 2021, 07:58:17 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2021/08/06/news/dunsilly-floodlights-expected-to-transform-antrim-gaa-hub-2409742/

Great progress with Dunsilly. Bit by bit this is turning into an excellent asset, credit due to all involved.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
All starting to heat up from Wed onwards, no easy games and teams will be going full pelt, the squad is going to be the main thing here and the teams with the biggest squad should have the advantage over the group stages..

Managers will have to play it smart too, injuries, niggles and suspensions will play a part. Good luck to all teams

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on August 06, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
All starting to heat up from Wed onwards, no easy games and teams will be going full pelt, the squad is going to be the main thing here and the teams with the biggest squad should have the advantage over the group stages..

Managers will have to play it smart too, injuries, niggles and suspensions will play a part. Good luck to all teams

no fixtures up yet on website?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 06, 2021, 09:38:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 06, 2021, 07:58:17 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2021/08/06/news/dunsilly-floodlights-expected-to-transform-antrim-gaa-hub-2409742/

Great progress with Dunsilly. Bit by bit this is turning into an excellent asset, credit due to all involved.

It is great progress, but it about fecking time, last in the Ulster counties to get lights, when I look over the lough in winter and see Ballymaguigan, Ballinderry, Ardboe and the on the other side of the Bann Bellaghy, Newbridge and Magherafelt, I wonder to myself what the feck are we doing differently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 06, 2021, 10:01:57 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 06, 2021, 09:38:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 06, 2021, 07:58:17 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2021/08/06/news/dunsilly-floodlights-expected-to-transform-antrim-gaa-hub-2409742/

Great progress with Dunsilly. Bit by bit this is turning into an excellent asset, credit due to all involved.

It is great progress, but it about fecking time, last in the Ulster counties to get lights, when I look over the lough in winter and see Ballymaguigan, Ballinderry, Ardboe and the on the other side of the Bann Bellaghy, Newbridge and Magherafelt, I wonder to myself what the feck are we doing differently.

Down still don't have their own facilities and are dependent on clubs, schools and private gyms for the county teams training needs so be grateful for what you have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 06, 2021, 10:06:14 AM
When you look at the training bases other counties have Dunsilly is an embarrassment. Another shambolic fiasco. Was it the same  regime as Casement originally?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 06, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
All starting to heat up from Wed onwards, no easy games and teams will be going full pelt, the squad is going to be the main thing here and the teams with the biggest squad should have the advantage over the group stages..

Managers will have to play it smart too, injuries, niggles and suspensions will play a part. Good luck to all teams

no fixtures up yet on website?

When ya know ya know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 06, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 06, 2021, 07:58:17 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2021/08/06/news/dunsilly-floodlights-expected-to-transform-antrim-gaa-hub-2409742/

Great progress with Dunsilly. Bit by bit this is turning into an excellent asset, credit due to all involved.
It is good news allright - who financed it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 06, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 06, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
All starting to heat up from Wed onwards, no easy games and teams will be going full pelt, the squad is going to be the main thing here and the teams with the biggest squad should have the advantage over the group stages..

Managers will have to play it smart too, injuries, niggles and suspensions will play a part. Good luck to all teams

no fixtures up yet on website?

When ya know ya know!

As an outsider, who watches alot of Antrim club games - What starts on Wednesday night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 06, 2021, 12:28:30 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 06, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 06, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
All starting to heat up from Wed onwards, no easy games and teams will be going full pelt, the squad is going to be the main thing here and the teams with the biggest squad should have the advantage over the group stages..

Managers will have to play it smart too, injuries, niggles and suspensions will play a part. Good luck to all teams

no fixtures up yet on website?

When ya know ya know!

As an outsider, who watches alot of Antrim club games - What starts on Wednesday night?
championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on August 06, 2021, 12:56:05 PM
I genuinely don't understand the county centre of excellence thing so many counties have invested in

County teams need somewhere to train

County has scores of clubs with an abundance of facilities

Its not rocket science
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 06, 2021, 01:11:43 PM
Come on Tiempo get with the times lol

County train maybe 3 times a week, thats 2 teams at adult level.

A club has underage right the way up to senior to cater for. Seniors train 2/3 times a week. How many pitch minutes do all these add up to.

Then club may have hurling, camogie, ladies football.

So 1 base is a must!

Plus Antrim hasn't an abundance of grounds with floodlights either.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 06, 2021, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: tiempo on August 06, 2021, 12:56:05 PM
I genuinely don't understand the county centre of excellence thing so many counties have invested in

County teams need somewhere to train

County has scores of clubs with an abundance of facilities

Its not rocket science

A bit of shit weather and the county secretary would be ringing round on the morning looking for a club to lend them a pitch for that night's training and getting knocked back.. Some mess that.

Only Dublin don't need a centre of excellence  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on August 06, 2021, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 06, 2021, 01:11:43 PM
Come on Tiempo get with the times lol

County train maybe 3 times a week, thats 2 teams at adult level.

A club has underage right the way up to senior to cater for. Seniors train 2/3 times a week. How many pitch minutes do all these add up to.

Then club may have hurling, camogie, ladies football.

So 1 base is a must!

Plus Antrim hasn't an abundance of grounds with floodlights either.

Tyrone won 3 AI without a centre of excellence and 0 since it was opened

Pitch minutes is the right way of looking at it, there are pitches everywhere being underutilised

Yeno what'll happen, a centre of excellence will be built, next thing this high performance team will need a weekend retreat to Cork or Malaga for warm weather training, or some other local venue/pursuit will come into vogue like cryotheraphy chambers at a few hundred pound a pop, and the players won't be at the centre at all

Down did plenty of running up mountains to win their AI, not a county sec making phone calls in sight

Just blows my mind this insatiable need to spunk millions all over the place

Invest in coaching excellence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 06, 2021, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 06, 2021, 12:28:30 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 06, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 06, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
All starting to heat up from Wed onwards, no easy games and teams will be going full pelt, the squad is going to be the main thing here and the teams with the biggest squad should have the advantage over the group stages..

Managers will have to play it smart too, injuries, niggles and suspensions will play a part. Good luck to all teams

no fixtures up yet on website?

When ya know ya know!

As an outsider, who watches alot of Antrim club games - What starts on Wednesday night?
championship

When are times & dates out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on August 06, 2021, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: tiempo on August 06, 2021, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 06, 2021, 01:11:43 PM
Come on Tiempo get with the times lol

County train maybe 3 times a week, thats 2 teams at adult level.

A club has underage right the way up to senior to cater for. Seniors train 2/3 times a week. How many pitch minutes do all these add up to.

Then club may have hurling, camogie, ladies football.

So 1 base is a must!

Plus Antrim hasn't an abundance of grounds with floodlights either.

Tyrone won 3 AI without a centre of excellence and 0 since it was opened

Pitch minutes is the right way of looking at it, there are pitches everywhere being underutilised

Yeno what'll happen, a centre of excellence will be built, next thing this high performance team will need a weekend retreat to Cork or Malaga for warm weather training, or some other local venue/pursuit will come into vogue like cryotheraphy chambers at a few hundred pound a pop, and the players won't be at the centre at all

Down did plenty of running up mountains to win their AI, not a county sec making phone calls in sight

Just blows my mind this insatiable need to spunk millions all over the place

Invest in coaching excellence

Antrim were behind the other counties in regards to facilities for years.

Yes Down ran up mountains and won All Irelands, and so did Antrim at that time, but for pitch work, Antrim only had LD & Rasharkin, Derry had nearly every club with floodlights that they could avail of, the same with Down and Tryone, so we are always playing catch up

Having a center of excellence takes pressure off club pitches. Was talking to a LD club man about 15 years ago and they had brought over a head groundsman from one of the professional clubs in england to look at their pitch in regards to what maintenance was needed to improve their grass surface.

When asked how often the pitch was used, the LD man stated every night of the week between all the teams, and the grounds man was shocked, stating that their pitch is fully relayed every two years (approx 60-80 games)

So investment in physical grounds is a necessity to ensure we have the facilities to promote our games , the trick is doing this and property and efficiently and investing in coaching at the same time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 06, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
do the refs get to use centres of excellence for Training to keep their fitness up? cant have them left behind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2021, 12:47:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 06, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
do the refs get to use centres of excellence for Training to keep their fitness up? cant have them left behind

I'd be more worried when I'm running past players thinking these lads should be in a better position, but sure if you want to find fault you can find it in every game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 08, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people



The £20 is fair enough, for the die hard fans. The difficulty facing the  CB is that some IFC  teams have 3 home games / 2 away,  others have 2 H/2 A . Uneven groups in SFC as well !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 09, 2021, 07:37:48 AM
Still no championship fixtures on the county web, are they are a secret? @MR2 have you refs got your fixtures yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 09, 2021, 08:12:39 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on August 09, 2021, 07:37:48 AM
Still no championship fixtures on the county web, are they are a secret? @MR2 have you refs got your fixtures yet?

Fixtures were sent to clubs on 3rd Aug
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 08, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people



The £20 is fair enough, for the die hard fans. The difficulty facing the  CB is that some IFC  teams have 3 home games / 2 away,  others have 2 H/2 A . Uneven groups in SFC as well !
charging u for games u can't get to ! GRAB ALL Association
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2021, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 08, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people



The £20 is fair enough, for the die hard fans. The difficulty facing the  CB is that some IFC  teams have 3 home games / 2 away,  others have 2 H/2 A . Uneven groups in SFC as well !
charging u for games u can't get to ! GRAB ALL Association

If you can't go then don't buy a ticket or give it to someone who can go, If anyone is short of £20 quid, give me a PM :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2021, 11:57:29 AM
It was the same last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 09, 2021, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 08, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people



The £20 is fair enough, for the die hard fans. The difficulty facing the  CB is that some IFC  teams have 3 home games / 2 away,  others have 2 H/2 A . Uneven groups in SFC as well !
charging u for games u can't get to ! GRAB ALL Association

If you don't think thats good value or don't want to support Antrim Gaa when there has been a cull on all revenue from croke park  due to covid, I don't think you'll be missed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 09, 2021, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 09, 2021, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 08, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people



The £20 is fair enough, for the die hard fans. The difficulty facing the  CB is that some IFC  teams have 3 home games / 2 away,  others have 2 H/2 A . Uneven groups in SFC as well !
charging u for games u can't get to ! GRAB ALL Association

If you don't think thats good value or don't want to support Antrim Gaa when there has been a cull on all revenue from croke park  due to covid, I don't think you'll be missed.

I think the £5 a game is great value, just think not having pay at the gate will hurt smaller clubs, I get it for big clubs who would maybe have more than 250 for games the need for tickets is vital but some smaller intermediate clubs wouldn't have anywhere near that but would prob have people go to games if they could just walk up and pay £5 at the gate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2021, 04:06:21 PM
£20 is the price of a round of pints now, or a Chinese or it's the price to pay to support your club men who have slogged away all year to play in the championship. How much is it a season ticket at Solitude?  Either pay it or stay at home and shut up.

I've stayed off this board for a while now purely because it was a greeting session about everything, I see nothing has changed. Still the same people greeting. Get a life ffs, there's bigger things going outside the 4 walls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 09, 2021, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2021, 04:06:21 PM
£20 is the price of a round of pints now, or a Chinese or it's the price to pay to support your club men who have slogged away all year to play in the championship. How much is it a season ticket at Solitude?  Either pay it or stay at home and shut up.

I've stayed off this board for a while now purely because it was a greeting session about everything, I see nothing has changed. Still the same people greeting. Get a life ffs, there's bigger things going outside the 4 walls.

I'm not complaining about the price, I've said the price is great value at £5 a game but I'm just saying some people might just decide to take a scoot to a game but they can't do that because there's no pay at the gate facility.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2021, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 09, 2021, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2021, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: delgany on August 08, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
I see supporters are being asked to buy all group tickets again for group games, no individual tickets will be available. bit of a disaster for anyone who maybe just wants to go to home games etc.

We've been starved of games and championship is upon us and we only support them at home? How much are the tickets?

I mean more just the hassle for some people, the tickets are £5 a game which is no bother at all so if you've 4 games the ticket is £20. I mean the issue being people who may just go and watch a game if its on or make a last min decision to go cant do that because they haven't bout the ticket for all games, I def think there was scope for a pay at the gate system. for example Dunloy are away to Lisburn on wed night, some supporters might not be able to make the journey, but they play st Pauls on Sunday at home which a lot more would go to. I think there should be a way of accommodating people



The £20 is fair enough, for the die hard fans. The difficulty facing the  CB is that some IFC  teams have 3 home games / 2 away,  others have 2 H/2 A . Uneven groups in SFC as well !
charging u for games u can't get to ! GRAB ALL Association

If you don't think thats good value or don't want to support Antrim Gaa when there has been a cull on all revenue from croke park  due to covid, I don't think you'll be missed.
wise up . Course 5 quid good value a game. 30 quid when u r on holidays for 4 of 6 matches not good value
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2021, 07:14:24 PM
It's £20 quid not a million!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 09, 2021, 08:56:53 PM
A round of drinks for referees and friends in the Felons is £3:50.... Lols
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2021, 09:21:49 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 09, 2021, 08:56:53 PM
A round of drinks for referees and friends in the Felons is £3:50.... Lols

Soccer club, not my cuppa tea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 10, 2021, 09:02:07 AM
Championship throwing in tomorrow evening. Let's hear your predictions. Will start with my senior champ predictions.

Group 1
Cargin vs Moneyglass - Cargin by 8
St Johns vs Rossa - St Johns by 1

Group 2
Portglenone vs St Brigids - Portglenone by 2

Group 3
Lamh Dhearg vs Aghagllon - Lamh Dhearg by 4
Aldergrove vs St Endas - St Endas by 3

Group 4
Creggan vs St Galls - Creggan by 4




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 10, 2021, 10:03:46 AM
Group 1
Cargin vs Moneyglass - Cargin by 12
St Johns vs Rossa - Rossa by 3

Group 2
Portglenone vs St Brigids - Portglenone Draw

Group 3
Lamh Dhearg vs Aghagllon - Lamh Dhearg by 6
Aldergrove vs St Endas - St Endas by 8

Group 4
Creggan vs St Galls - Creggan by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 10, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
Group 1
Cargin vs Moneyglass - Cargin by 10 (Depends on attitude of home team)
St Johns vs Rossa - Rossa by 1

Group 2
Portglenone vs St Brigids -  Draw

Group 3
Lamh Dhearg vs Aghagllon - Lamh Dhearg by 7
Aldergrove vs St Endas - St Endas by 8 (Cant see the logic of Aldergrove being in Senior Championship this year no offence intended, well beaten in most if not all Senior Champ games last year and currently well off the pace in Div 2

Group 4
Creggan vs St Galls - St Galls by 1 (I still think there is a puff in this St Galls team)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 10, 2021, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 10, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
Group 1
Cargin vs Moneyglass - Cargin by 10 (Depends on attitude of home team)
St Johns vs Rossa - Rossa by 1

Group 2
Portglenone vs St Brigids -  Draw

Group 3
Lamh Dhearg vs Aghagllon - Lamh Dhearg by 7
Aldergrove vs St Endas - St Endas by 8 (Cant see the logic of Aldergrove being in Senior Championship this year no offence intended, well beaten in most if not all Senior Champ games last year and currently well off the pace in Div 2

Group 4
Creggan vs St Galls - St Galls by 1 (I still think there is a puff in this St Galls team)

would agree with most of that:

Cargin v Moneyglass (cargin by a good bit more than 10)
St.Johns v Rossa (Rossa by 3)
PG1 v St.Brides (Draw good shout)
LD v Aghagallon (LD by 5)
Aldergrove v Endas (Endas by 12)
Creggan v Galls ( Creggan by 4)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on August 10, 2021, 10:49:39 AM
Group 1
Cargin vs Moneyglass - Cargin by 18
St Johns vs Rossa - draw

Group 2
Portglenone vs St Brigids -  St.Brigids by 4

Group 3
Lamh Dhearg vs Aghagllon - Lamh Dhearg by 8
Aldergrove vs St Endas - St Endas by 12

Group 4
Creggan vs St Galls - St Galls by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 10, 2021, 03:01:49 PM
Cargin v Moneyglass (cargin by 8
St.Johns v Rossa (st johns by 2)
PG1 v St.Brides casements by 3
LD v Aghagallon (LD by 8
Aldergrove v Endas (Endas by 10
Creggan v Galls ( Creggan by 1

IFC
Ardoyne vs ballymena (draw)
Randalstown vs st Teresa's (TNN by 4)
Glenravel vs davitts (glenravel by 5
Lisburn vs dunloy (dunloy by 8
St. Paul's vs sarsfields (st Paul's by 4)

JFC
Antrim vs ods( Antrim by 8
Laochra vs Pearse's (Pearse's by 10)
Rasharkin vs Mals (rasharkin by 10)
Ballycastle vs aggies (draw)

Edit, apparently 8 with ) is sunglasses, learn something new every day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2021, 03:05:03 PM
Portglenone vs st brigids looks the most interesting tie to me.

Johnnies rossa also could be interesting and big derby with st pauls sarsfields.

Long time since moneyglass cargin in championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2021, 09:44:54 PM
Some interesting results. Moneyglass didn't score?? Portglenone better than bs playing them down to be lol. Good result for Cretan over at galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 11, 2021, 09:54:01 PM
Good to get the first one over. Solid performance from PG1, losing to the same opposition in the league a few months back ensured there was no complacency. Cargin looking strong for 4 in a row.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 11, 2021, 10:22:14 PM
What was the story with the st endas game ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 11, 2021, 10:31:46 PM
 Going by twitter no referee turned up for the St Endas game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 12, 2021, 07:51:16 AM
Going by Twitter Moneyglass didn't show up to Cargan game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 12, 2021, 08:46:11 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 10, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
Group 1
Cargin vs Moneyglass - Cargin by 10 (Depends on attitude of home team)
St Johns vs Rossa - Rossa by 1

Group 2
Portglenone vs St Brigids -  Draw

Group 3
Lamh Dhearg vs Aghagllon - Lamh Dhearg by 7
Aldergrove vs St Endas - St Endas by 8 (Cant see the logic of Aldergrove being in Senior Championship this year no offence intended, well beaten in most if not all Senior Champ games last year and currently well off the pace in Div 2

Group 4
Creggan vs St Galls - St Galls by 1 (I still think there is a puff in this St Galls team)

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2021, 09:07:48 AM
Tight one for LD.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 12, 2021, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 12, 2021, 09:07:48 AM
Tight one for LD.

Aghagallon had a man sent off very early in the game too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 12, 2021, 11:11:43 AM
St Galls never really in the game last night, seems the Whitehill man in the middle was trying his best to keep them in it with a soft penalty and not allowing Ricky to touch Niblock in any manner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 12, 2021, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on August 12, 2021, 11:11:43 AM
St Galls never really in the game last night, seems the Whitehill man in the middle was trying his best to keep them in it with a soft penalty and not allowing Ricky to touch Niblock in any manner

Would agree with that, he refs like it is literally basket ball. Niblock won every ball, Ricky had of touched him with a duster the ref would have blown a free. A good start for us but we need to improve going forward. Last nights game will bring us on, along with with the other teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 12, 2021, 12:38:19 PM
Anyone else feel that Rossa v st Johns jerseys are to close and someone should have to change or have an away kit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2021, 01:09:31 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 12, 2021, 12:38:19 PM
Anyone else feel that Rossa v st Johns jerseys are to close and someone should have to change or have an away kit?

If watching on a black and white tv or colour blind I'd say yes, I've never got mixed up and the players wouldn't lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 12, 2021, 02:21:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2021, 01:09:31 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 12, 2021, 12:38:19 PM
Anyone else feel that Rossa v st Johns jerseys are to close and someone should have to change or have an away kit?

If watching on a black and white tv or colour blind I'd say yes, I've never got mixed up and the players wouldn't lol

£250 Fine BUT it is up to the referee to call out the clash and report it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 12, 2021, 06:41:48 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 12, 2021, 04:49:13 PM
Those clubs have played each other in jerseys of that style and colour for many decades without a problem. Let's not lose the run of ourselves because someone thought they were alike on a Facebook video stream.

Correct
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 13, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
What is going on in moneyglass they couldn't muster one point in the game with Cargin. I don't think I can recall in senior championship at club anyone not scoring. Like seriously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 13, 2021, 12:42:50 PM
From what I hear Moneyglass tried to be the big men against Whitehill but got boxed into their corner and picked up a few injuries which are yet to clear up.............out of their depth in any event
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 13, 2021, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 13, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
What is going on in moneyglass they couldn't muster one point in the game with Cargin. I don't think I can recall in senior championship at club anyone not scoring. Like seriously.
Moneyglass missing a good few players from speaking to some supporters of theirs, fair enough but in all honesty in addition to the fact they are in a lower division, their tactics were dire. 14 / 15 men behind the ball the entire game, they intentionally barely crossed the halfway line. Surely better to loose 0.35 to 0.09 than 26 nil and have some sort of attempt at playing football.
This is not a dig at Moneyglass as a club they had no choice but play in the senior, but this game did nobody any good, and it was neither celebrated or mocked either I can tell you! Teams need to be placed in the proper championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on August 13, 2021, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on August 13, 2021, 12:42:50 PM
From what I hear Moneyglass tried to be the big men against Whitehill but got boxed into their corner and picked up a few injuries which are yet to clear up.............out of their depth in any event

Well said by the Whitehill man in the middle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 13, 2021, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 13, 2021, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 13, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
What is going on in moneyglass they couldn't muster one point in the game with Cargin. I don't think I can recall in senior championship at club anyone not scoring. Like seriously.
Moneyglass missing a good few players from speaking to some supporters of theirs, fair enough but in all honesty in addition to the fact they are in a lower division, their tactics were dire. 14 / 15 men behind the ball the entire game, they intentionally barely crossed the halfway line. Surely better to loose 0.35 to 0.09 than 26 nil and have some sort of attempt at playing football.
This is not a dig at Moneyglass as a club they had no choice but play in the senior, but this game did nobody any good, and it was neither celebrated or mocked either I can tell you! Teams need to be placed in the proper championship.
They were in the proper championship, they won intermediate last year, they clearly had a good few players missing and had been intent in trying to keep it tight defensively. My problem with defensive football is when it doesn't work for the first 15 mins then you have to change because the game is over unless you do open up, I blame a management team who see that defensive is t working but continue on with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 13, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Cargin will get their fill against the johnnies id say - look strong when those hurlers play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 13, 2021, 10:27:21 PM
Course they will 'get there fill" against the Johnnies. Will St Johns win the Championship - No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 13, 2021, 11:23:38 PM

Moneyglass missing a good few players from speaking to some supporters of theirs, fair enough but in all honesty in addition to the fact they are in a lower division, their tactics were dire. 14 / 15 men behind the ball the entire game, they intentionally barely crossed the halfway line. Surely better to loose 0.35 to 0.09 than 26 nil and have some sort of attempt at playing football.
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Lose. Surely better to lose .35 to .09.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 14, 2021, 12:05:17 AM
focus more on football than spelling Brendy. Can you spell snob?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 14, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
Might be missing a few but the big names still playing. What a complete embarrassment. The fact the couldn't even get up to win a free or something. I have never seen the like of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on August 14, 2021, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 14, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
Might be missing a few but the big names still playing. What a complete embarrassment. The fact the couldn't even get up to win a free or something. I have never seen the like of it

11 Missing from the squad that won the IFC last year but we'll not let facts get in the way of a good story. You'd be led to believe on here that Moneyglass never got the ball out of their own half, that they never had a shot, that they never won a kick out, that they never made any tackles.

Cargin are a ruthlessly efficient footballing monster in Antrim terms and they completely put us to the sword fair play to them for that, never once did the players gloat or try to belittle our players on field they just went about there business,  we'll relish the chance to play them again and hopefully we will compete better.

Save your embarrassment for yourself,  we'll continue to try and improve and get players back on board and where possible close the gap to the top teams. Everybody loves a laugh at others misfortune and become experts on what should have been done without any insight to internal goings on.

We've another 5 games to go and they will all be tough but our boys will keep doing the best they can and whatever the outcome you can't ask anymore of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 14, 2021, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on August 14, 2021, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 14, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
Might be missing a few but the big names still playing. What a complete embarrassment. The fact the couldn't even get up to win a free or something. I have never seen the like of it

11 Missing from the squad that won the IFC last year but we'll not let facts get in the way of a good story. You'd be led to believe on here that Moneyglass never got the ball out of their own half, that they never had a shot, that they never won a kick out, that they never made any tackles.

Cargin are a ruthlessly efficient footballing monster in Antrim terms and they completely put us to the sword fair play to them for that, never once did the players gloat or try to belittle our players on field they just went about there business,  we'll relish the chance to play them again and hopefully we will compete better.

Save your embarrassment for yourself,  we'll continue to try and improve and get players back on board and where possible close the gap to the top teams. Everybody loves a laugh at others misfortune and become experts on what should have been done without any insight to internal goings on.

We've another 5 games to go and they will all be tough but our boys will keep doing the best they can and whatever the outcome you can't ask anymore of them

What an appropriate username in the circumstances
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on August 14, 2021, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 14, 2021, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on August 14, 2021, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 14, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
Might be missing a few but the big names still playing. What a complete embarrassment. The fact the couldn't even get up to win a free or something. I have never seen the like of it

11 Missing from the squad that won the IFC last year but we'll not let facts get in the way of a good story. You'd be led to believe on here that Moneyglass never got the ball out of their own half, that they never had a shot, that they never won a kick out, that they never made any tackles.

Cargin are a ruthlessly efficient footballing monster in Antrim terms and they completely put us to the sword fair play to them for that, never once did the players gloat or try to belittle our players on field they just went about there business,  we'll relish the chance to play them again and hopefully we will compete better.

Save your embarrassment for yourself,  we'll continue to try and improve and get players back on board and where possible close the gap to the top teams. Everybody loves a laugh at others misfortune and become experts on what should have been done without any insight to internal goings on.

We've another 5 games to go and they will all be tough but our boys will keep doing the best they can and whatever the outcome you can't ask anymore of them

What an appropriate username in the circumstances

Touché
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 14, 2021, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 14, 2021, 12:05:17 AM
focus more on football than spelling Brendy. Can you spell snob?

Can think of another 4 letter word...

We all can't jump from a JFC club to a SFC club  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 08:50:02 AM
Is James loughrey back with st Brigids?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 15, 2021, 09:47:34 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 13, 2021, 11:23:38 PM

Moneyglass missing a good few players from speaking to some supporters of theirs, fair enough but in all honesty in addition to the fact they are in a lower division, their tactics were dire. 14 / 15 men behind the ball the entire game, they intentionally barely crossed the halfway line. Surely better to loose 0.35 to 0.09 than 26 nil and have some sort of attempt at playing football.
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Lose. Surely better to lose .35 to .09.
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The f**king Spelling police.  f**k me take a redner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 15, 2021, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 15, 2021, 09:47:34 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 13, 2021, 11:23:38 PM

Moneyglass missing a good few players from speaking to some supporters of theirs, fair enough but in all honesty in addition to the fact they are in a lower division, their tactics were dire. 14 / 15 men behind the ball the entire game, they intentionally barely crossed the halfway line. Surely better to loose 0.35 to 0.09 than 26 nil and have some sort of attempt at playing football.
.

Lose. Surely better to lose .35 to .09.

The f**king Spelling police.  f**k me take a redner
[/quote]

At half 11 on a Friday night  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 15, 2021, 02:24:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 08:50:02 AM
Is James loughrey back with st Brigids?

Looks to be as he scored for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:57:11 PM
Not long after I typed that I saw there was a Gaelic life article on it so must be back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 15, 2021, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 14, 2021, 12:05:17 AM
focus more on football than spelling Brendy. Can you spell snob?

Yes fair enough, apologies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 15, 2021, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:57:11 PM
Not long after I typed that I saw there was a Gaelic life article on it so must be back.

In July , according to tbe GAA inter county transfer list!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 05:52:41 PM
St endas beating ld a big result. Ballymena beating randalstown probably a surprise too. Some interesting results in intermediate and junior too. Would have expected Dunloy to beat St. Paul's. Junior seems very tight though I suspect rasharkiin and maybe Pearses favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 15, 2021, 06:46:45 PM
Cargin won't be beat at Senior.

Intermediate wide open.

Junior between 3 teams - rasharkin, antrim and pearses in that order.


Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 05:52:41 PM
St endas beating ld a big result. Ballymena beating randalstown probably a surprise too. Some interesting results in intermediate and junior too. Would have expected Dunloy to beat St. Paul's. Junior seems very tight though I suspect rasharkiin and maybe Pearses favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 16, 2021, 10:12:12 AM
The most likely outcome for the accumulator would be:

Snr:    Cargin
Imt:    Ballymena
Junior: Rasharkin

That's where my £2 is heading anyway.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 16, 2021, 12:27:45 PM
Would be

Cargin
St Pauls
Rasharkin

for me

Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 16, 2021, 10:12:12 AM
The most likely outcome for the accumulator would be:

Snr:    Cargin
Imt:    Ballymena
Junior: Rasharkin

That's where my £2 is heading anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2021, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 16, 2021, 10:12:12 AM
The most likely outcome for the accumulator would be:

Snr:    Cargin
Imt:    Ballymena
Junior: Rasharkin

That's where my £2 is heading anyway.

A whole £2 lol. It does look like Cargin are hands down favourites. Imtermediate or Junior I am not sure. I think Rasharkin will maybe win junior but not sure on Ballymena for intermediate. It really is very close to call in the intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 16, 2021, 12:57:04 PM
I don't think senior is that straight forward. We took them to extra time in the final last September. A kick of the ball in normal time. Their panel proved  stronger in extra time and we have no complaints. We are there abouts. LD come the quarter final will give anyone a game. They and Cargin have had very tight matches and replays the past 3 seasons. Can't see that changing as LD have proven championship performers. And I also see Portglenone pushing on further this season, they gave St Brigids a tanking last week by 14pts, no one seen that coming. They should be pushing.  Cargin favs surely but its not a one horse race.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 16, 2021, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2021, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 16, 2021, 10:12:12 AM
The most likely outcome for the accumulator would be:

Snr:    Cargin
Imt:    Ballymena
Junior: Rasharkin

That's where my £2 is heading anyway.


A whole £2 lol. It does look like Cargin are hands down favourites. Imtermediate or Junior I am not sure. I think Rasharkin will maybe win junior but not sure on Ballymena for intermediate. It really is very close to call in the intermediate.


I know, I need to get myself a club manager gig to up the stakes!  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on August 17, 2021, 11:54:01 AM
impressed with the standard of the championship so far, lets hope mcginley and co are keeping an eye out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
any word of Gaelfast chief appointment? with schools returning its a very important time for tjis school project
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 17, 2021, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
any word of Gaelfast chief appointment? with schools returning its a very important time for tjis school project

Shane Flanagan , Director of Games Development Coaching , Croke Park .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 03:22:28 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360952.html

Loughrey interview. Still living in Cork.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 17, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 03:22:28 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360952.html

Loughrey interview. Still living in Cork.

Have to say that i am baffled at that, he's played in Cork for 9 years, meanwhile St Brigids have been in a number of U18 and u21 finals and they feel they need prioritise him over their home based youth. I just don't get it. They have regressed from last season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
He will maybe bring some of the younger boys on though. Agree though it does seem odd. He can't make training surely though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on August 17, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
You would also wonder how the transfer can go through when his address is in Cork.  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 17, 2021, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on August 17, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
You would also wonder how the transfer can go through when his address is in Cork.  ::)

Inter County Transfers are all completed online/ email process, 10 day turn around , only turned down if an objection@
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 05:13:41 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 17, 2021, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
any word of Gaelfast chief appointment? with schools returning its a very important time for tjis school project

Shane Flanagan , Director of Games Development Coaching , Croke Park .
Thanks - any interview or plan from him yit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 17, 2021, 05:27:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 05:13:41 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 17, 2021, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
any word of Gaelfast chief appointment? with schools returning its a very important time for tjis school project

Shane Flanagan , Director of Games Development Coaching , Croke Park .
Thanks - any interview or plan from him yit?

He's the Head Man in croke, so no .....he is the boss...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 05:53:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 17, 2021, 04:50:50 PM
You are allowed to play for your 'home' club if you move away.

A player who permanently resides outside his First County and wishes to transfer from his current Own Club to his First Club or to the Club (or its successor) of which he was a playing member immediately prior to leaving his First County, may so transfer provided he has not played in a Competition for the first time with his Own Club after January 1st.

I don't think there's any hint of any rule breaking, but this shouldn't be allowed in my view. If you leave your club, you should only be allowed back if you moved back.

Loughrey's case is a little bit more bizarre given the year that's in it as he was playing the 2020 club championship for Mallow a few weeks ago I think.

Unreal player though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
I would agree with that. I live quite a bit away from my home club but they are still my home club - where I grew up, where I am from etc. Your home club will always be in your dna and that should be recognised.

It is an odd scenario mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2021, 06:19:29 PM
I've ref'd them in the league a few times this year, he hasn't played any games I was involved in, just championship, have they won any games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 17, 2021, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2021, 06:19:29 PM
I've ref'd them in the league a few times this year, he hasn't played any games I was involved in, just championship, have they won any games?
Only transfered in July
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 17, 2021, 06:22:47 PM
500 mile round trip is some journey by car. I would think that St Brides no doubt have a contact in The Whirlybirds (if under 50 Google it) or one of their private jets is made available.
Smacks of desperation to me, didn't like it when clubs flew players back from the states years ago either

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 06:44:54 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 17, 2021, 06:22:47 PM
500 mile round trip is some journey by car. I would think that St Brides no doubt have a contact in The Whirlybirds (if under 50 Google it) or one of their private jets is made available.
Smacks of desperation to me, didn't like it when clubs flew players back from the states years ago either

Ah I dunno, these days you can go from Stockman's Lane to Cork without hitting a traffic light.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 17, 2021, 06:59:39 PM
I'm lost here. Are boys complaining about loughrey playing for his home club? Or is he still playing for his cork club as well? What's the issue? Sure some Belfast clubs have had boys from all over playing for them over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 17, 2021, 06:59:39 PM
I'm lost here. Are boys complaining about loughrey playing for his home club? Or is he still playing for his cork club as well? What's the issue? Sure some Belfast clubs have had boys from all over playing for them over the years.

Nobody is complaining.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 08:20:59 PM
then wats the problem here? is money changing hands and is that the issue......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 17, 2021, 08:48:47 PM
Slow news day !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2021, 10:00:46 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 17, 2021, 08:48:47 PM
Slow news day !

Yes, very slow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 17, 2021, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 17, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
Jesus! Quite a leap.

There is no issue. Galls man is of the opinion that a player should not be able to transfer back to his original club if he still lives outside the county. It is not specific to James Loughrey's transfer, it is just his opinion. Albeit one that I disagree with.
good ! Someone not motivated by money and just the love of his club. If only the SW teams had managers who would travel for free lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 17, 2021, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 17, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
Jesus! Quite a leap.

There is no issue. Galls man is of the opinion that a player should not be able to transfer back to his original club if he still lives outside the county. It is not specific to James Loughrey's transfer, it is just his opinion. Albeit one that I disagree with.

I'd say fair played to him for going back to his club. It's not as if he's travelling back for the glory. What happens if a young fella moves to Dublin for work and ends up changing clubs, can he not move back to his home club at some stage down the line?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 17, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
James would be 35 now, his status as an Antrim great assured a long time ago. St Brigid's had a great league campaign, their minor winning teams are maturing nicely into senior footballers, you've Paul Mc Comisky there (ex Down) and Conor McAleer (ex Fermanagh) as well as a highly rated manager.

All the ingredients for a proper tilt at the championship...the return of Loughrey could add the icing to the cake. That would have been the thinking.

Of course they are still well in with a chance of making the quarter finals. Still all to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 17, 2021, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 17, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
James would be 35 now, his status as an Antrim great assured a long time ago. St Brigid's had a great league campaign, their minor winning teams are maturing nicely into senior footballers, you've Paul Mc Comisky there (ex Down) and Conor McAleer (ex Fermanagh) as well as a highly rated manager.

All the ingredients for a proper tilt at the championship...the return of Loughrey could add the icing to the cake. That would have been the thinking.

Of course they are still well in with a chance of making the quarter finals. Still all to play for.
"Minor Winning teams" - no need for that low blow there Bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 18, 2021, 08:29:30 AM
He's getting 15K and gets a helicopter up to training and matches..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2021, 08:38:48 AM
A game obviously?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 18, 2021, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on August 18, 2021, 08:29:30 AM
He's getting 15K and gets a helicopter up to training and matches..

Here come the clowns!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 18, 2021, 09:19:30 AM
Loughrey travelling back to play for his home club should be admired and will be by true gaels. Community and club, it's what the GAA is all about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 18, 2021, 09:31:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2021, 08:38:48 AM
A game obviously?

Yes plus bonuses, think 5k for a goal and 1k per point. 21k for Sunday's outing, not bad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on August 18, 2021, 01:16:24 PM
I'd say the big bt9 wigs contributing their fair share
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I think love of cluB would only  bring u that distance. Love of money will take u a shorter distance like Derry to Toome or Belfast to Aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on August 18, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on August 18, 2021, 02:40:47 PM
What do you call the manager from Tipp and Tyrone taking Antrim senior football and hurling teams? They do love a drive.

Antrim could do with someone with a bit of drive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I think love of cluB would only  bring u that distance. Love of money will take u a shorter distance like Derry to Toome or Belfast to Aghagallon
I like James and got to admire the desire shown. On your other point I reckon 9 out of 12 division 1 teams have outsiders as such running their senior teams. Coupled along with our county senior football and hurling teams. Any reason why you named the two clubs you did? Maybe you should move with the times / Get off high horse, whichever suits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 18, 2021, 03:09:44 PM

As he is nothing more than a WUM, don't give the fire oxygen

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I think love of cluB would only  bring u that distance. Love of money will take u a shorter distance like Derry to Toome or Belfast to Aghagallon
I like James and got to admire the desire shown. On your other point I reckon 9 out of 12 division 1 teams have outsiders as such running their senior teams. Coupled along with our county senior football and hurling teams. Any reason why you named the two clubs you did? Maybe you should move with the times / Get off high horse, whichever suits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 18, 2021, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on August 18, 2021, 02:40:47 PM
What do you call the manager from Tipp and Tyrone taking Antrim senior football and hurling teams? They do love a drive.

Surely them boys are drawn to Antrim Hurling & Football out of passion for the games and the County? No?!!  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2021, 03:33:42 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on August 18, 2021, 03:09:44 PM

As he is nothing more than a WUM, don't give the fire oxygen

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I think love of cluB would only  bring u that distance. Love of money will take u a shorter distance like Derry to Toome or Belfast to Aghagallon
I like James and got to admire the desire shown. On your other point I reckon 9 out of 12 division 1 teams have outsiders as such running their senior teams. Coupled along with our county senior football and hurling teams. Any reason why you named the two clubs you did? Maybe you should move with the times / Get off high horse, whichever suits.

Uch I know  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 18, 2021, 03:34:31 PM
The IFC seems very open after 2 rounds of games.

A few suprise results so far.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I think love of cluB would only  bring u that distance. Love of money will take u a shorter distance like Derry to Toome or Belfast to Aghagallon
I like James and got to admire the desire shown. On your other point I reckon 9 out of 12 division 1 teams have outsiders as such running their senior teams. Coupled along with our county senior football and hurling teams. Any reason why you named the two clubs you did? Maybe you should move with the times / Get off high horse, whichever suits.
I hear those 2 are paying big big money thats all - Know Rossa, LD , St Johns and St Galls in belfast are being run by club men. Seems to be rife in SW. About moving with times u just can't pick the rules u want to observe and the ones u want to ignore
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 19, 2021, 01:44:12 AM
has your club ever paid expenses?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 19, 2021, 06:11:29 AM
Quote from: ck on August 18, 2021, 09:19:30 AM
Loughrey travelling back to play for his home club should be admired and will be by true gaels. Community and club, it's what the GAA is all about.
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Except when it comes to Casement Park!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 19, 2021, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 18, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I think love of cluB would only  bring u that distance. Love of money will take u a shorter distance like Derry to Toome or Belfast to Aghagallon
I like James and got to admire the desire shown. On your other point I reckon 9 out of 12 division 1 teams have outsiders as such running their senior teams. Coupled along with our county senior football and hurling teams. Any reason why you named the two clubs you did? Maybe you should move with the times / Get off high horse, whichever suits.
I hear those 2 are paying big big money thats all - Know Rossa, LD , St Johns and St Galls in belfast are being run by club men. Seems to be rife in SW. About moving with times u just can't pick the rules u want to observe and the ones u want to ignore
Are Gary Wallace, Gavin McGeehan and Fay Devlin St Galls club men, thats great hi
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2021, 01:13:26 PM
Leave us outta it  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2021, 01:13:52 PM
u seem to be in the know all the details - is your snout in the trough too?
My club has paid very basic receipted expenses to medical people ony but not the amounts of money cassidy has got in toome - rumour has it that planning permission has been knocked back for his 3rd house extension its so big! Poor fella can't get the jacuzzi built
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 19, 2021, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2021, 01:13:52 PM
u seem to be in the know all the details - is your snout in the trough too?
My club has paid very basic receipted expenses to medical people ony but not the amounts of money cassidy has got in toome - rumour has it that planning permission has been knocked back for his 3rd house extension its so big! Poor fella can't get the jacuzzi built

What is your club? You talk some boll*cks!! I'm putting it down to jealousy, you are forgiven.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 19, 2021, 06:13:50 PM
We are all rich in the SW. Need to get rid of the money somehow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2021, 06:17:09 PM
I think there might be some disparity between what you think Cassidy is being paid and the actual truth too ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2021, 08:27:32 PM
there are a few fairly notorious boys who are doing the rounds in the ulster club football circuit who are delivering nothing so yeah at least Cassidy has shown his worth. I thought Cargin would drop off but it is not showing any signs of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 19, 2021, 08:42:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2021, 01:13:52 PM
u seem to be in the know all the details - is your snout in the trough too?
My club has paid very basic receipted expenses to medical people ony but not the amounts of money cassidy has got in toome - rumour has it that planning permission has been knocked back for his 3rd house extension its so big! Poor fella can't get the jacuzzi built

That's balls
He doesn't need a jacuzzi in his 3rd house as he already has 2 in his other houses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2021, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 19, 2021, 08:42:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2021, 01:13:52 PM
u seem to be in the know all the details - is your snout in the trough too?
My club has paid very basic receipted expenses to medical people ony but not the amounts of money cassidy has got in toome - rumour has it that planning permission has been knocked back for his 3rd house extension its so big! Poor fella can't get the jacuzzi built

That's balls
He doesn't need a jacuzzi in his 3rd house as he already has 2 in his other houses

Boys, when you are prepared to take money off your own club for doing it then don't be surprised when he is after what he is.
No amount of success would convince me to go near him or any of these other mercenaries.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 20, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
One aspect i haven't noticed here in this debate is that some clubs simply can't get a coach from within.  That's a bad situation, but it can be a reality.  So they hire externally because only a small number of people could ever be bothered with all that it entails. So blanket criticism of committees for hiring paid help may not always be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 20, 2021, 02:56:31 PM
I'd be firmly against paying coaches, it's a gravy train, but trust me it is a fact that sometimes an internal candidate just isn't available, so where does a committee go then in January with lads raring to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 20, 2021, 03:05:15 PM
Lads, Do you need a ticket for the Antrim Championship games tonight or can you pay at the gate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 20, 2021, 03:27:20 PM
Ticket only is the rule, but some clubs may exercise 'discretion'

Any predictions for tonight:

Myself:

St Johns v Cargin- Cargin by 9
Rossa v Mglass- Rossa by 4
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 7
Aldagrove v LD- LD by 8
St Endas v Aghagallon- St Endas by 2
GNM v Kickhams- Kickhams by 4


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Take_her_back_ref on August 20, 2021, 03:35:00 PM
Was on the Antrim GAA website and it said to contact your club secretary for tickets for the club games. What if you're from outside the county. Is there another way to get tickets?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 20, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
Quote from: Take_her_back_ref on August 20, 2021, 03:35:00 PM
Was on the Antrim GAA website and it said to contact your club secretary for tickets for the club games. What if you're from outside the county. Is there another way to get tickets?

Aye, I'd nip to a game this evening if I thought I'd get in by paying at the gate. Can't be arsed with a wasted journey though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 20, 2021, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 20, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
Quote from: Take_her_back_ref on August 20, 2021, 03:35:00 PM
Was on the Antrim GAA website and it said to contact your club secretary for tickets for the club games. What if you're from outside the county. Is there another way to get tickets?

Aye, I'd nip to a game this evening if I thought I'd get in by paying at the gate. Can't be arsed with a wasted journey though.

Problem Solved

https://www.universe.com/users/antrim-gaa-VMXJK1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2021, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 20, 2021, 03:02:06 PM
Trust me. If paying an outside man wasn't an option, the club would get a manager.

How many clubs have you ever heard of that couldn't get a manager and either had to play on without one or withdraw? Someone always steps up. Get him a Colm Nally handbook and sure he's every bit as good as the rest of them.

I've seen it time and time again, even in my own club, we've had committee look after senior teams and player/manager look after teams.

You don't get too many ex players looking to take senior teams within their club, they nearly have to be dragged in and that's no good either.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Take_her_back_ref on August 20, 2021, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 20, 2021, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: toby47 on August 20, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
Quote from: Take_her_back_ref on August 20, 2021, 03:35:00 PM
Was on the Antrim GAA website and it said to contact your club secretary for tickets for the club games. What if you're from outside the county. Is there another way to get tickets?

Aye, I'd nip to a game this evening if I thought I'd get in by paying at the gate. Can't be arsed with a wasted journey though.

Problem Solved

https://www.universe.com/users/antrim-gaa-VMXJK1

That's my Friday evening sorted. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 20, 2021, 06:00:10 PM
I see that ticket prices for tonight's games are increased to £6. I assume that tickets already purchased (£20) will still be valid for group games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2021, 06:16:19 PM
Well if you bought the £20 quid ticket like we were asked you'll have done alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 20, 2021, 07:37:25 PM
Paying for individual games is a good option, plenty of people can't make all the games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2021, 08:28:58 PM
Ten points in a row for Cargin :o 11-4 second half water break.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2021, 08:33:27 PM
Aghagallon beating st endas too. That group looks interesting. (Though it is tight and not over)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 20, 2021, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2021, 08:33:27 PM
Aghagallon beating st endas too. That group looks interesting. (Though it is tight and not over)

Sounds a cracker on Twitter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2021, 08:44:38 PM
Four point win for aghagallon and ten point win for cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Ahoghill beat portglenone  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 20, 2021, 09:58:54 PM
Give £argin the trophy now? nothing to touch them in BElfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 20, 2021, 10:30:06 PM
Undoubtedly the worst refereeing performance ever seen! Hadn't nerve to send yellow carded players off. We were shocking so shouldn't have to bring ref into it! He cost us approx 4 pts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 20, 2021, 10:57:14 PM
Very true. We were scared to kick the ball over the bar!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 20, 2021, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on August 20, 2021, 10:57:14 PM
Very true. We were scared to kick the ball over the bar!

Terrific analysis here I see. ...but of course it was all the refs fault.  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 20, 2021, 11:05:10 PM
You will have noticed where I said we were shocking and wouldn't kick for scores. Whilst being awful we would have won by 2/3 had the laws been applied properly!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 21, 2021, 07:13:08 PM
How do Casements go from hammering St Brigids by 14 to getting bt by a v poor Ahoghill team by 1pt. It's obviously no fluke as they did it last season to. Won't help their development. Dermots injury a serious blow. I'll say nothing about the ref, seen him to often 🤡
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2021, 07:59:54 PM
Don't know much about ahoghill but no matter how bad a league campaign they have, every year they always seem to have a big performance or 2 in them, whether it's like last night or to stay up .....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 22, 2021, 09:31:54 AM
Lads lads lads, I make this point with two caveats, firstly I was not at the PG1 game on Friday night and 2 whilst one person on here has stated that I was the ref in question on Friday night I am not however I say this as a former referee, why is it that it is always the referee as an individual who gets called out due to his performance whilst no one on here calls out the individual performance of a player, such as x got roasted or Y missed a truck load of frees? I am in no way calling for this kind of picking on players as I believe our young men have enough to contend with mentally than a bunch of keyboard warriors.

I know in the past I have been unfair to Totes and have reflected on that but I know for a fact being involved in games as a ref where a player has sustained a serious injury that I played those games over and over in my mind the days after wondering could I have done something different......for a ref it's a lonely place lads and they do not have the comfort of a fellow panel of players to work things through with...... think before we type lads

Good luck to Dermot with his recovery
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 22, 2021, 11:13:55 AM
The standard of refereeing has been as high as it's ever been in Antrim, based on the games I've seen to date in the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 22, 2021, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 22, 2021, 11:13:55 AM
The standard of refereeing has been as high as it's ever been in Antrim, based on the games I've seen to date in the championship.

Friday night at St. Enda's was ropey  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2021, 12:03:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 22, 2021, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 22, 2021, 11:13:55 AM
The standard of refereeing has been as high as it's ever been in Antrim, based on the games I've seen to date in the championship.

Friday night at St. Enda's was ropey  ;)

Feck aff  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
Moneyglass and Aldergrove in senior championships when in Div 2 hasn't work . 2 groups of 5 next year with 4 games then to semi final ? No brainer ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 22, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
Moneyglass and Aldergrove in senior championships when in Div 2 hasn't work . 2 groups of 5 next year with 4 games then to semi final ? No brainer ?
What a about the other two senior teams u left out when coming up with brilliant idea 😳🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 22, 2021, 03:06:10 PM
The ref on Friday night did not get Portglenone beaten as original fellow club poster said. We simply kicked ourselves out of it, missed to many clear cut chances that would have put the game to bed. Ahoghill punished that, and deserve credit for coming back strong, as they have done before. As big Hoof says, they have made this kind of victory against the odds an art form for a decade.

Sometimes you are on the right side of these encounters, sometimes on the wrong side. It's what keeps us coming back and makes our games what they are.

This group is wide open, all have won one and lost one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 22, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
Moneyglass and Aldergrove in senior championships when in Div 2 hasn't work . 2 groups of 5 next year with 4 games then to semi final ? No brainer ?
What a about the other two senior teams u left out when coming up with brilliant idea 😳🙄
beingv a man I know I'm not perfect . 4 groups of 3 then but point us no div 2 teams for everyone's sake
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 22, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 22, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
Moneyglass and Aldergrove in senior championships when in Div 2 hasn't work . 2 groups of 5 next year with 4 games then to semi final ? No brainer ?
What a about the other two senior teams u left out when coming up with brilliant idea 😳🙄
beingv a man I know I'm not perfect . 4 groups of 3 then but point us no div 2 teams for everyone's sake

Being a GAA man , you'd know the IFC winners , play up in SFC , the next year, they have no choice in the matter!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 22, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 22, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
Moneyglass and Aldergrove in senior championships when in Div 2 hasn't work . 2 groups of 5 next year with 4 games then to semi final ? No brainer ?
What a about the other two senior teams u left out when coming up with brilliant idea 😳🙄
beingv a man I know I'm not perfect . 4 groups of 3 then but point us no div 2 teams for everyone's sake

Being a GAA man , you'd know the IFC winners , play up in SFC , the next year, they have no choice in the matter!
why not base championships on leagues ? Better way to make sure teams r in right championship. Sure u keep ur head in sand and accept 1.23 to 0.0 scores Chamge is allowed u know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 22, 2021, 05:50:54 PM
So your brilliant idea is that if you win the junior or international championship you don't get promoted. Why didn't Antrim stay in the Joe McDonagh Cup? 🤡
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2021, 05:51:41 PM
But if you win a championship at 'your level' then you need to go up and compete, otherwise why bother? It's unfair on other teams if a team is too strong for intermediate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 22, 2021, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 22, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 22, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 22, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
Moneyglass and Aldergrove in senior championships when in Div 2 hasn't work . 2 groups of 5 next year with 4 games then to semi final ? No brainer ?
What a about the other two senior teams u left out when coming up with brilliant idea 😳🙄
beingv a man I know I'm not perfect . 4 groups of 3 then but point us no div 2 teams for everyone's sake

Being a GAA man , you'd know the IFC winners , play up in SFC , the next year, they have no choice in the matter!
why not base championships on leagues ? Better way to make sure teams r in right championship. Sure u keep ur head in sand and accept 1.23 to 0.0 scores Chamge is allowed u know

You 'd still have a team(if not 2) promoted from Div2 the previous season , playing in SFC the next year ! Clubs earn the right to test themselves at the next level -
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on August 23, 2021, 09:39:14 AM
id have thought wed go back to straight knock out next year? some of the groups now pretty much done and be a good few dead rubbers, bring back knock out football. I understand why it was groups the last 2 years to give teams who were playing without county players a chance to bed them back in before knock out. but with the split season again next year shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 23, 2021, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 21, 2021, 07:13:08 PM
How do Casements go from hammering St Brigids by 14 to getting bt by a v poor Ahoghill team by 1pt. It's obviously no fluke as they did it last season to. Won't help their development. Dermots injury a serious blow. I'll say nothing about the ref, seen him to often 🤡
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Ahoghill always have a big performance in them, especially against Casements. By all accounts Casements have only themselves to blame.

Spoke to a few people from both sides and were all of the opinion the ref in question was dreadful. Far too out of his depth. Was booking a player, seen it was going to be a second yellow and then stopped and done nothing apparently. Dermots injury was a result  of a ref unable to control the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
Did the referee at any point injure the player? So I'm not confused with what you're saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 23, 2021, 01:50:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
Did the referee at any point injure the player? So I'm not confused with what you're saying

He's saying when a referee doesn't control a match which is his job, inevitably as we have seen over the years and don't have to look any further than the Mayo/Dublin game, the aggression levels increase in response to every bad decesion the refs makes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on August 23, 2021, 02:08:20 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 23, 2021, 01:50:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
Did the referee at any point injure the player? So I'm not confused with what you're saying

He's saying when a referee doesn't control a match which is his job, inevitably as we have seen over the years and don't have to look any further than the Mayo/Dublin game, the aggression levels increase in response to every bad decesion the refs makes.

Referees can have total control of a match but all it takes is 1 loose arm and somebody is getting slapped about the head, or a mistimed tackle, which may not be intentional, can hurt someone, none of which is within the control of the referee.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2021, 02:21:30 PM
do club refs get much training? tough and lonely job alright being on a team of one a lonely pint job so to speak
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 23, 2021, 02:25:37 PM
Of course they can, thats correct, however my point well made, played in games and observed games where the ref has contributed to the increasing level of aggression by simply not doing what his basic responsibilities are. If you don't understand there is little point in debating. And as MR2 said the ref didn't do it, he is correct and players have responsibilities as well in this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on August 23, 2021, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 23, 2021, 02:25:37 PM
Of course they can, thats correct, however my point well made, played in games and observed games where the ref has contributed to the increasing level of aggression by simply not doing what his basic responsibilities are. If you don't understand there is little point in debating. And as MR2 said the ref didn't do it, he is correct and players have responsibilities as well in this.

As an ex player, and a current referee, I totally get where you're coming from, so please don't be disparaging when replying. I know you are correct when making your point, I too have witnessed refs losing control (probably me) and not helping matters, but you cannot blame the referee all the time is my point. Sometimes the players don't help themselves, sometimes the red mist comes down, and sometimes this IS caused by the referee, but as you said the players have responsibilities too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 23, 2021, 03:05:25 PM
I want to reiterate the referee was definitely not the reason we lost on Friday. He was the cause of the game becoming so fractious that Ahoghill had a sniff and full credit to them for seizing upon it. The ref completely lost control and after failing to book an ahoghill player who had already been booked he gave carte blanche to the players to go over the top without punishment, believe me there were equally bad decisions either way, still not sure how there was no card after penalty incident.
I want to finish by stating referee is the worst possible role on the pitch and I wouldn't do it, however he has a duty of care to the players which he didn't fulfill! Also for what it is worth I attach no blame to him for Dermot's injury! Sin e!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on August 23, 2021, 04:44:27 PM
Looking on here interested on all the comments and when I was down the town today and in my local fruit shop I asked one of the refs umpires about the game, all man who I hold to be honest and know his football! His word was that God himself would have struggled to handle that game!!

As for the second yellow everyone seems to be talking about he said he asked the ref augury the game about that incident and he said the ref said he initially thought it was a high tackle round the neck and was going to book but decided to consult with his neutral umpires who told him it was across the chest and therefore did not merit a yellow card.

For me lads in a game like that if a ref books everything and ends up 12 a side he is a bollocks for not letting a game go and he spoiled it ant if it then lets a senior championship game he played with a bit of physicality it is also his fault!!! Hobson's choice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2021, 05:57:23 PM
It's do I want an easy night or do I let teams play championship football?

The players firstly have a responsibility to play within the rules. End of.

The referee has the responsibility of applying the rules.

Where it gets muddled is when the ref misses something (he's human, can happen) or when players decide to get some retribution from a previous challenge that went (in their eyes) against them.

This call from the sidelines that you hear in games, that's your fault ref, you caused that injury, we all know he didn't, he may have 'allowed' a robust tackle go as not every tackle is a foul which in turn leads to some payback, which is a foul, but it's not the refs fault.

I'd two teams years ago who from the get go couldn't handle their emotions, local derby and all that, 3 or 4 minutes in came the cry, you're losing it ref. After that I blew for everything, a free fest which descended into the worst game ever!

If players and managers control their emotions then the ref will have the easiest job, that's where it starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2021, 08:07:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2021, 02:21:30 PM
do club refs get much training? tough and lonely job alright being on a team of one a lonely pint job so to speak

What training are we talking about?

Rules tests
Fitness tests
Yearly review of new rules, applications, video analysis
Assessments

That sort of training?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2021, 08:18:16 PM
Yes thats good to hear u r getting that level of support
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on August 24, 2021, 08:58:37 AM
As a dual player, refereeing has been set to a high standard. with refs not blowing up as easy as they use to.  if we are gonna compete with other counties we need to let the game flow. this is where the refs in hurling in the county are too whistle-happy I feel .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 09:28:50 AM
Didnt see any of the senior games last friday, though attended an exciting IFC game between Glenavy and St.Pauls. Pauls just edging it a goal.

Just to comment on some of the statements here regarding refs. iv been critical myself at times of some of the refs and as soon as you mention anything you are told to put your name forward before making comments so we would all need to watch what we say. though i think we can all agree whether we've watched all ireland matches, provincial or even premier league games, we have all been critical or passed comments on refs! they are all human and dont deserve abuse of any description, but they are always going to be a talking point. so criticise away but keep it respectful.

For example, i stood in belfast watching a very important game 2 years ago, and a certain referee somehow mahanged to play 8minutes over injury time.... when the crowd were shouting to the lines man and asking what was going on he said "he'll blow it any second now"...... 5minutes later match was still going on.

To me as a neutral i loved that as it was adding to the excitement of the whole thing but could you imagine if the team who were trying to see the game out for that duration ended up losing that game... poor ref wouldnt of made it to the pavilion!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 09:28:50 AM
Didnt see any of the senior games last friday, though attended an exciting IFC game between Glenavy and St.Pauls. Pauls just edging it a goal.

Just to comment on some of the statements here regarding refs. iv been critical myself at times of some of the refs and as soon as you mention anything you are told to put your name forward before making comments so we would all need to watch what we say. though i think we can all agree whether we've watched all ireland matches, provincial or even premier league games, we have all been critical or passed comments on refs! they are all human and dont deserve abuse of any description, but they are always going to be a talking point. so criticise away but keep it respectful.

For example, i stood in belfast watching a very important game 2 years ago, and a certain referee somehow mahanged to play 8minutes over injury time.... when the crowd were shouting to the lines man and asking what was going on he said "he'll blow it any second now"...... 5minutes later match was still going on.

To me as a neutral i loved that as it was adding to the excitement of the whole thing but could you imagine if the team who were trying to see the game out for that duration ended up losing that game... poor ref wouldnt of made it to the pavilion!!

I'm bored of that to be fair, the only watch that is of any note is the ref's. the linesman is not stopping his watch when players are dropping like flies with cramp and other time wasting routines. The players are all informed and showed the watch whenever they want, and the ref visually shows he's stopping the watch and restarting it. Would you prefer that there was no stoppage time?

I did 6 minutes the other night, its not fair on the team that is behind to have the other team take the piss, if you have different views on that then that's fine, take the medicine and try it out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 24, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 09:28:50 AM
Didnt see any of the senior games last friday, though attended an exciting IFC game between Glenavy and St.Pauls. Pauls just edging it a goal.

Just to comment on some of the statements here regarding refs. iv been critical myself at times of some of the refs and as soon as you mention anything you are told to put your name forward before making comments so we would all need to watch what we say. though i think we can all agree whether we've watched all ireland matches, provincial or even premier league games, we have all been critical or passed comments on refs! they are all human and dont deserve abuse of any description, but they are always going to be a talking point. so criticise away but keep it respectful.

For example, i stood in belfast watching a very important game 2 years ago, and a certain referee somehow mahanged to play 8minutes over injury time.... when the crowd were shouting to the lines man and asking what was going on he said "he'll blow it any second now"...... 5minutes later match was still going on.

To me as a neutral i loved that as it was adding to the excitement of the whole thing but could you imagine if the team who were trying to see the game out for that duration ended up losing that game... poor ref wouldnt of made it to the pavilion!!

I'm bored of that to be fair, the only watch that is of any note is the ref's. the linesman is not stopping his watch when players are dropping like flies with cramp and other time wasting routines. The players are all informed and showed the watch whenever they want, and the ref visually shows he's stopping the watch and restarting it. Would you prefer that there was no stoppage time?

I did 6 minutes the other night, its not fair on the team that is behind to have the other team take the piss, if you have different views on that then that's fine, take the medicine and try it out

WRT timings MR2, we've one of those scoreboards where you can put a clock timer on if for say 30 minutes once the referee starts the half. We've decided not to use that function and just keep the time of day on it.

As a referee do you think having the countdown timer is a hindrance to the referee like as you say that clock doesn't take stoppages into consideration?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 24, 2021, 09:56:38 AM
Controversial 1 but surely refs can influence games if they wish to

There defo must be times a player has said something and pissed a ref off, leading to the ref not giving that player a free the next time hes say being clearly dragged back etc and ultimately influencing a result

Same with teams refs don't like etc. Humans doing the reffing so has to happen.

Defo see it when a ref knows 1 team from their area reffing another team "calm down Breezer, don't be at it" versus "number 10 come here. Name? Black card."  Game over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 11:10:10 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 24, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 09:28:50 AM
Didnt see any of the senior games last friday, though attended an exciting IFC game between Glenavy and St.Pauls. Pauls just edging it a goal.

Just to comment on some of the statements here regarding refs. iv been critical myself at times of some of the refs and as soon as you mention anything you are told to put your name forward before making comments so we would all need to watch what we say. though i think we can all agree whether we've watched all ireland matches, provincial or even premier league games, we have all been critical or passed comments on refs! they are all human and dont deserve abuse of any description, but they are always going to be a talking point. so criticise away but keep it respectful.

For example, i stood in belfast watching a very important game 2 years ago, and a certain referee somehow mahanged to play 8minutes over injury time.... when the crowd were shouting to the lines man and asking what was going on he said "he'll blow it any second now"...... 5minutes later match was still going on.

To me as a neutral i loved that as it was adding to the excitement of the whole thing but could you imagine if the team who were trying to see the game out for that duration ended up losing that game... poor ref wouldnt of made it to the pavilion!!

I'm bored of that to be fair, the only watch that is of any note is the ref's. the linesman is not stopping his watch when players are dropping like flies with cramp and other time wasting routines. The players are all informed and showed the watch whenever they want, and the ref visually shows he's stopping the watch and restarting it. Would you prefer that there was no stoppage time?

I did 6 minutes the other night, its not fair on the team that is behind to have the other team take the piss, if you have different views on that then that's fine, take the medicine and try it out

WRT timings MR2, we've one of those scoreboards where you can put a clock timer on if for say 30 minutes once the referee starts the half. We've decided not to use that function and just keep the time of day on it.

As a referee do you think having the countdown timer is a hindrance to the referee like as you say that clock doesn't take stoppages into consideration?

I'll be honest, I never look at the scoreboard or clock, they can be a hinderance as the supporters are shouting and coaches... I show the watch they can see for themselves what's left, the generally do so I've never really any issues from the lads on the pitch

I've actually thought the 15 minute breaks would have shortened the injury time, but take the last game I did, I stopped the watch dead on 15 minutes for the last part, told players, bar injuries and stoppages we have 15 minutes left, I mentioned to managers that I'll be stopping the watch should I have to, I played 6 minutes of injury, the other team was going ballistic! I fail to see what I have done wrong (on this occasion lol)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 11:44:06 AM
MR2 Can you or any of the other refs/ former refs enlighten us as to what guidance or advice the refs are given on stoppages and how that reflects on injury time... i can see where you are coming from but it doesnt seem to be across the board. Other Refs blow it up nearly on the end second of time given no matter what happens during play.

and tell me has there been a change in the rules as to what a black card is? watching games this year there doesnt seem to be as many given for checking runners or 3rd man type stuff...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 11:44:06 AM
MR2 Can you or any of the other refs/ former refs enlighten us as to what guidance or advice the refs are given on stoppages and how that reflects on injury time... i can see where you are coming from but it doesnt seem to be across the board. Other Refs blow it up nearly on the end second of time given no matter what happens during play.

and tell me has there been a change in the rules as to what a black card is? watching games this year there doesnt seem to be as many given for checking runners or 3rd man type stuff...

This is down to the timekeeper/ref I personally let all concerned know what I'm doing, injury time is stoppages, injury, keeper pissing about with the ball, subs, and so on, I've played the game long enough and managed long enough to know when someone is taking the piss (not a technical term we use)

Other Ref's may give a standard set of extra minutes and blow, I prefer stopping the watch, so my watch will always show 15m played at the end. The rules say you have to add on time for injuries/stoppages and subs, they are not normal playing stoppages, like the keeper setting the ball down and hitting it, or frees, only when they take added time it should be a hop ball and add on that stoppage from that.

If a team is in front and is deliberately wasting time then it should be added on, I can't see why anyone wouldn't agree to that.

You'd feel annoyed if you managed a team that the ref didn't allow for time wasting, subs, injuries.. I personally would encourage the team to play the game out, keep ball and run down the clock naturally, no stoppages then, the playacting by some is embarrassing at times.

As for the black card, I've only done it twice this year strangely, Its got to be a deliberate pull down or a blatant body check, that I've got to see, remember I'm following the ball most times, body checks are hard to get unless its right in front of you, and what you see and what I see will always be different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on August 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 24, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on August 24, 2021, 09:28:50 AM
Didnt see any of the senior games last friday, though attended an exciting IFC game between Glenavy and St.Pauls. Pauls just edging it a goal.

Just to comment on some of the statements here regarding refs. iv been critical myself at times of some of the refs and as soon as you mention anything you are told to put your name forward before making comments so we would all need to watch what we say. though i think we can all agree whether we've watched all ireland matches, provincial or even premier league games, we have all been critical or passed comments on refs! they are all human and dont deserve abuse of any description, but they are always going to be a talking point. so criticise away but keep it respectful.

For example, i stood in belfast watching a very important game 2 years ago, and a certain referee somehow mahanged to play 8minutes over injury time.... when the crowd were shouting to the lines man and asking what was going on he said "he'll blow it any second now"...... 5minutes later match was still going on.

To me as a neutral i loved that as it was adding to the excitement of the whole thing but could you imagine if the team who were trying to see the game out for that duration ended up losing that game... poor ref wouldnt of made it to the pavilion!!

I'm bored of that to be fair, the only watch that is of any note is the ref's. the linesman is not stopping his watch when players are dropping like flies with cramp and other time wasting routines. The players are all informed and showed the watch whenever they want, and the ref visually shows he's stopping the watch and restarting it. Would you prefer that there was no stoppage time?

I did 6 minutes the other night, its not fair on the team that is behind to have the other team take the piss, if you have different views on that then that's fine, take the medicine and try it out

WRT timings MR2, we've one of those scoreboards where you can put a clock timer on if for say 30 minutes once the referee starts the half. We've decided not to use that function and just keep the time of day on it.

As a referee do you think having the countdown timer is a hindrance to the referee like as you say that clock doesn't take stoppages into consideration?

I always ask for it be switched off or not used, it just causes problems.

Hurling league match earlier this year, 1 team 2 points behind, timer showed 30s left for some reason but by my 2 watches i'd played 4 mins over. Losing team went daft, turns out there was a glitch in the clock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on August 24, 2021, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2021, 05:57:23 PM
It's do I want an easy night or do I let teams play championship football?

The players firstly have a responsibility to play within the rules. End of.

The referee has the responsibility of applying the rules.

Where it gets muddled is when the ref misses something (he's human, can happen) or when players decide to get some retribution from a previous challenge that went (in their eyes) against them.

This call from the sidelines that you hear in games, that's your fault ref, you caused that injury, we all know he didn't, he may have 'allowed' a robust tackle go as not every tackle is a foul which in turn leads to some payback, which is a foul, but it's not the refs fault.

I'd two teams years ago who from the get go couldn't handle their emotions, local derby and all that, 3 or 4 minutes in came the cry, you're losing it ref. After that I blew for everything, a free fest which descended into the worst game ever!

If players and managers control their emotions then the ref will have the easiest job, that's where it starts.

The players firstly have a responsibility to play within the rules. End of.

The referee has the responsibility of applying the rules.

Wrong way around, The referee has the responsibility of both establishing the latitude he will use in the application of the rules, and the actual application of the rules.

Players usually will respond to the referee and conduct themselves in that manor. If player see one of their teammates getting rough treatment and the referee doesn't deal with it properly, usually the group mentality of looking after your own kicks in, i.e. if the referee won't protect us we will have to. A lot of times, players and managers lose control their emotions when the referee is not properly or consistently applying the rules.

To the referee's on here, if you disagree with this, then you don't understand a key element of competitive physiology that exists in all contact sports. A referee can't control players from doing a dirty action, but how they deal with that will majorly influence how the game is played after that point

My youngest (U-8) plays soccer, during a match, the other teams left back continually left his feet with a two footed lunge to get the ball. The ref was walking past me and I quietly mentioned to him that its a foul and that he is going to hurt someone. The ref threatened to send me to the car, 10 mins later the left back did break an ankle.

I lost it, saying that it was the referees fault and it was, and his response as to tell me to control my emotions. He was more interested in controlling me than in properly controlling the game.

I regretted not losing my control earlier, as it would probably have prevented an 8 year old having his leg broken

This is why managers and supporters react the way they do on the sideline, and good referee's are ably to manage this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 06:23:22 PM
So and eye for eye attitude? Hopefully you're not looking after kids teams, where you teach them the rules and respect  of the games and how to play football and hurling.

The referee applies the rules full stop, it's up to the players to abide by them, so to take your attitude if I see someone driving their car without a seat belt on or speeding I can do the same?

As for understanding the game my CV as a player and manager gives me enough experience and insight in playing competitively and managing competitively. Your players should and always play by the rules if they don't then they'll lose sight of what's ahead.

No one goes out to have a bad game, players managers and ref's can have a bad day, the team take it collectively while the ref is generally on his own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on August 24, 2021, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 06:23:22 PM
So and eye for eye attitude? Hopefully you're not looking after kids teams, where you teach them the rules and respect  of the games and how to play football and hurling.

The referee applies the rules full stop, it's up to the players to abide by them, so to take your attitude if I see someone driving their car without a seat belt on or speeding I can do the same?

As for understanding the game my CV as a player and manager gives me enough experience and insight in playing competitively and managing competitively. Your players should and always play by the rules if they don't then they'll lose sight of what's ahead.

No one goes out to have a bad game, players managers and ref's can have a bad day, the team take it collectively while the ref is generally on his own.

Looked after kids teams for years, and my teams we very well behaved and disciplined. No problem there, but you seem to deflect any comments about how referees have the biggest impact on how a games played onto players and managers fault, and that's a problem. Seems that referees have no self reflection.

The influence on how a games played is 1 Manager, 2 referee, and 3 Managers. But on the pitch and during the game, its 1 Referee, 2 Players, and 3 Manager.

Regarding the seat belt analogy, not applicable as another person not wearing a seat belt doesn't impact me, but if a member of the opposing team hits one of my team and the ref doesn't take action, that does impact my team.

If the referee is consistently allowing players to run 8 steps  before bouncing / soloing a ball, all players will do it. This is natural. If you have a team being over aggressive and not getting punished by the ref, one of your players will get hurt, and the team will have a duty of care to each other to stand up to it. Look at the Mayo Dublin game, the ref and officials missed about 4 red card offences, Mayo got more aggressive after,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:11:27 PM
Let's agree to disagree, you obviously didn't read when I said referees have bad games.

But for me disciple is how I went with management, 15 players on the pitch and discipline in the tackle is the way forward, why you would get involved in an off the ball scenario  or red card offence is beyond me. Lose a player you lose a match.

At senior level, championship, tackles and emotions are at the max, you'd prefer non contact sport and that's fine, I prefer to let lads get familiar and once things settle down we can play hurling/football.

Not every tackle is a foul btw

Referee bashing is popular at the minute, supporters management and players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 24, 2021, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 22, 2021, 03:06:10 PM
The ref on Friday night did not get Portglenone beaten as original fellow club poster said. We simply kicked ourselves out of it, missed to many clear cut chances that would have put the game to bed. Ahoghill punished that, and deserve credit for coming back strong, as they have done before. As big Hoof says, they have made this kind of victory against the odds an art form for a decade.

Sometimes you are on the right side of these encounters, sometimes on the wrong side. It's what keeps us coming back and makes our games what they are.

This group is wide open, all have won one and lost one!

Yes this is pretty much the analysis of it bang on.  Well said.
Why did Casements not have big McKeever playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 25, 2021, 01:16:14 PM
Just a precaution CK. Will be ready for the return legs hopefully. Dermot a huge loss though he has been going really well this year. Typical of Dermot to go for a 30/70 ball, not blaming Ahoghill player at all, it would have been the same had it been the other way around!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 25, 2021, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 25, 2021, 01:16:14 PM
Just a precaution CK. Will be ready for the return legs hopefully. Dermot a huge loss though he has been going really well this year. Typical of Dermot to go for a 30/70 ball, not blaming Ahoghill player at all, it would have been the same had it been the other way around!

I wish Dermot well. So unfortunate. A fantastic player!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 01, 2021, 02:58:34 PM
heating up a bit in senior champ tonight I' d say - Johnnies Rossa should be fireworks and LD Aghagallion could go either way
Hope Moneyglass get a few scores this time against MoneyCargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on September 01, 2021, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 01, 2021, 02:58:34 PM
heating up a bit in senior champ tonight I' d say - Johnnies Rossa should be fireworks and LD Aghagallion could go either way
Hope Moneyglass get a few scores this time against MoneyCargin

As a neutral what would be a better game to go to. St Galls v Creggan or Johnnies vs Rossa?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 01, 2021, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: toby47 on September 01, 2021, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 01, 2021, 02:58:34 PM
heating up a bit in senior champ tonight I' d say - Johnnies Rossa should be fireworks and LD Aghagallion could go either way
Hope Moneyglass get a few scores this time against MoneyCargin

As a neutral what would be a better game to go to. St Galls v Creggan or Johnnies vs Rossa?

Rossa and St John's. Or take a spin to the Aghagallon and LD game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2021, 06:54:45 PM
Ld aghagallon on Facebook live.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2021, 08:37:41 PM
Some turnaround for st brigids beating portglenone after the beating they took first time. Creggan seem to have the measure of st galls handy enough. I only saw st endas won well apart from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2021, 08:40:06 PM
Rossa beat St. John's too. Good turnaround for them. Some of those groups seem tight enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 01, 2021, 08:44:00 PM
LD beat Aghagallon handy enough in the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 01, 2021, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2021, 08:40:06 PM
Rossa beat St. John's too. Good turnaround for them. Some of those groups seem tight enough.
looks like that one will go to points Difference if im reading it right
|think MoneyCargin and Creggan only teams through so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 01, 2021, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 01, 2021, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2021, 08:40:06 PM
Rossa beat St. John's too. Good turnaround for them. Some of those groups seem tight enough.
looks like that one will go to points Difference if im reading it right
|think MoneyCargin and Creggan only teams through so far

Group 1: Cargin top, joined by whoever beats moneyglass by more between st johns or rossa
Group 2: st brigids top, portglenone 2nd assuming they both beat ahoghill
Group 3: Any 2 from lamh dhearg/ st endas / aghagallon
Group 4: Creggan top, st galls second


Quarter finals
cargin v st galls
creggan v st johns / rossa
st brigids v lamh dhearg/ st endas / aghagallon
portglenone v lamh dhearg / st endas / aghagallon

cargin into the semis, with the other 3 up for grabs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on September 01, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Assuming pg1 beat Ahoghill is a hell of an assumption going on what I saw tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 01, 2021, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 01, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Assuming pg1 beat Ahoghill is a hell of an assumption going on what I saw tonight.


bad? long way to go and that half of the draw wide open
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2021, 08:03:23 AM
Where are the Johnston's at for St Johns? I don't see them in the football or hurling these days,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 02, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 01, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Assuming pg1 beat Ahoghill is a hell of an assumption going on what I saw tonight.

What has happened the Casements??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Disgusting scenes at the LD v Aghagallon game last night, extremely disappointing performance from MO'N as well as players I just hope the video is properly viewed and all that need dealt with are penalised accordingly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
MON?

I would be more concerned with the LD line management, subs and fans on the pitch for the melee!! For a game streamed live it was embarrassing


Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Disgusting scenes at the LD v Aghagallon game last night, extremely disappointing performance from MO'N as well as players I just hope the video is properly viewed and all that need dealt with are penalised accordingly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
MON?

I would be more concerned with the LD line management, subs and fans on the pitch for the melee!! For a game streamed live it was embarrassing


Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Disgusting scenes at the LD v Aghagallon game last night, extremely disappointing performance from MO'N as well as players I just hope the video is properly viewed and all that need dealt with are penalised accordingly.

Referee
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 02, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
MON?

I would be more concerned with the LD line management, subs and fans on the pitch for the melee!! For a game streamed live it was embarrassing


Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Disgusting scenes at the LD v Aghagallon game last night, extremely disappointing performance from MO'N as well as players I just hope the video is properly viewed and all that need dealt with are penalised accordingly.
At end of 64th minute a LD player gets tackled and no joke 8 LD mentors enter the field to antagonise and protest. All the Maor Foirne nonsense is gone now thank god. I believe there is supposed to be a Manager on the side line and everyone else back in the dugout. Terry McCrudden senior seemed like he was playing wing half back he was on the field constantly. Surely this is on the referee, stop the game and don't start it again until managements follow the rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 02:39:23 PM
I do agree it is on the ref to an extent, however I do note he had two official linesmen who didn't do much to control it. It is incumbent on the CB to give strict guidance to each club to do with men on the line and then sanction them if they fail to stick to these

Quote from: EOC1923 on September 02, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
MON?

I would be more concerned with the LD line management, subs and fans on the pitch for the melee!! For a game streamed live it was embarrassing


Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 01:38:28 PM
Disgusting scenes at the LD v Aghagallon game last night, extremely disappointing performance from MO'N as well as players I just hope the video is properly viewed and all that need dealt with are penalised accordingly.
At end of 64th minute a LD player gets tackled and no joke 8 LD mentors enter the field to antagonise and protest. All the Maor Foirne nonsense is gone now thank god. I believe there is supposed to be a Manager on the side line and everyone else back in the dugout. Terry McCrudden senior seemed like he was playing wing half back he was on the field constantly. Surely this is on the referee, stop the game and don't start it again until managements follow the rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 02, 2021, 02:44:29 PM
Strange strange refereeing in the LD match. How he sent 2 Aghagallon players off during the melee with the whole LD team and backroom staff ill never know and gave LD a solitary yellow.

Have read this thread over the past few weeks and I do understand that its def not an easy job to be the man in the middle and I do admire their commitment. However, this game was shown on facebook live so many in the county and beyond would have seen it. Is there any accountability for a refs performance when there are so many clear and obvious decisions he got completely wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 02, 2021, 02:44:48 PM
Before all the soothsayers come on the soap box about Referees this and that, he had a poor game and let himself be bullied all night, just watch the video and lack of rule implementation throughout the game, which is what he is there for after all. Didn't deal with a lot of big calls that would have indicated to both clubs that he's in control both of the game and player welfare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 02, 2021, 02:53:16 PM
Also agree with the linesmen. Not sure what their role is? They gave no support to the ref all night. not sure if there were dug outs for the LD subs but if there were the linesman may as well have taken a seat in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 02, 2021, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 02, 2021, 02:44:29 PM
Strange strange refereeing in the LD match. How he sent 2 Aghagallon players off during the melee with the whole LD team and backroom staff ill never know and gave LD a solitary yellow.

Have read this thread over the past few weeks and I do understand that its def not an easy job to be the man in the middle and I do admire their commitment. However, this game was shown on facebook live so many in the county and beyond would have seen it. Is there any accountability for a refs performance when there are so many clear and obvious decisions he got completely wrong?

Lamh Dearg bullying and harassing referees? Never!  :P
It's what they do and yes I noted the many backroom team on the pitch intimidating and influencing proceedings last night. Again!
This stuff needs stopped as in Antrim it's the same few clubs at it the whole time!! We can all name them. Why? Because they get away with it and it's swept under the carpet.

The video should be used to suspend them. Oh let me guess?.. Those LD influencers on the county board will ensure that there is 'nothing to see here'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 02, 2021, 03:59:20 PM
The stuff off the ball that the camera didn't see is the bit that was worrying. Dark arts on full display by LD last night. A few of the neutrals at the game couldn't believe the carryon at times. Ryan Murray hit a fella off the ball in full view of supporters and fella down holding his face. Even some of the LD supporters were embarrassed with that one. Same with the melee that led to the sending off. There was a young 18 year getting a hiding on the ground and then players ran in and started the melee. Referee lost complete control.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on September 02, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
Sounds like LD knew Aghagallon would lie down when bullied.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 04:22:44 PM
LD didn't "bully" anyone  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest
Did LD not get the only black card of the night? the Aghagallon sendings off were when the match was as good as over. Yes LD got off light at melee but Aghagallon targeted both Murrays all match which is a bit ironic there brother is managing Aghagallon  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 04:32:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest
Did LD not get the only black card of the night? the Aghagallon sendings off were when the match was as good as over. Yes LD got off light at melee but Aghagallon targeted both Murrays all match which is a bit ironic there brother is managing Aghagallon  ::)
Yes, and? His trip when Aghagallon player was in on goal at the end merited a card and therefore a red, but got neither. Showed the officials were afraid to send LD boys off is all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on September 02, 2021, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

Can't really be classed as up the country that trip, though the direction was South West right enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 02, 2021, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

No sour grapes. People are simply calling out the fact that LD have a reputation that proceeds them. Off the ball antics, late tackles and intimidation stunts from the line. Weak referees get intimidated. It's a stain on Antrim football and has been for a long time. Fact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Weak referees or those who just happen to be buddies of the men who do the appointments who happen to be LD men??

In all seriousness not an easy game to do with all the off the ball stuff and I would have hoped for more assistance for the lines

Quote from: ck on September 02, 2021, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

No sour grapes. People are simply calling out the fact that LD have a reputation that proceeds them. Off the ball antics, late tackles and intimidation stunts from the line. Weak referees get intimidated. It's a stain on Antrim football and has been for a long time. Fact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 02, 2021, 05:25:28 PM
We're in a spiral as regards refs.  They take dogs abuse from the sidelines so I'm sure a lot of good men have walked away or wouldn't go near  it.  So you're left with a small pool and as they make more and more unexplainable decisions they just get more and more abuse and the spiral continues and you end up with more and more poor refs or weak refs who haven't the bottle to make the right calls.

At the championship games I've been to this year the refereeing has been mind boggling bad, lots of decisions which make absolutely no sense, and most of the rows have been preceded by bad decisions which wind everyone up. 

It would take strong leadership to review Jerome's video and sanction LD and address it with the ref, but we've never seen it before so I'm afraid we're stuck with our current lot.  No wonder we're a County who the outside look down at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on September 02, 2021, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: ck on September 02, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 01, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Assuming pg1 beat Ahoghill is a hell of an assumption going on what I saw tonight.

What has happened the Casements??

I am not entirely sure, I think much was made of league performances and hype believed! Show great passages of football and then do something basic wrong. Hard to put my finger on in, missed Dermot obviously. Definitely wouldn't class us as a top 6 team at the min.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 02, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Weak referees or those who just happen to be buddies of the men who do the appointments who happen to be LD men??

In all seriousness not an easy game to do with all the off the ball stuff and I would have hoped for more assistance for the lines

Quote from: ck on September 02, 2021, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

No sour grapes. People are simply calling out the fact that LD have a reputation that proceeds them. Off the ball antics, late tackles and intimidation stunts from the line. Weak referees get intimidated. It's a stain on Antrim football and has been for a long time. Fact.

Who were the linesmen?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 05:47:32 PM
One was conal roberts I think and I am not sure who the other was

Quote from: breakingball on September 02, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Weak referees or those who just happen to be buddies of the men who do the appointments who happen to be LD men??

In all seriousness not an easy game to do with all the off the ball stuff and I would have hoped for more assistance for the lines

Quote from: ck on September 02, 2021, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

No sour grapes. People are simply calling out the fact that LD have a reputation that proceeds them. Off the ball antics, late tackles and intimidation stunts from the line. Weak referees get intimidated. It's a stain on Antrim football and has been for a long time. Fact.

Who were the linesmen?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 05:47:32 PM
One was conal roberts I think and I am not sure who the other was

Quote from: breakingball on September 02, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 02, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Weak referees or those who just happen to be buddies of the men who do the appointments who happen to be LD men??

In all seriousness not an easy game to do with all the off the ball stuff and I would have hoped for more assistance for the lines

Quote from: ck on September 02, 2021, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
r u not Allowed to go up the country on a wed night and beat a SW team any mor? sour grapes wine

No sour grapes. People are simply calling out the fact that LD have a reputation that proceeds them. Off the ball antics, late tackles and intimidation stunts from the line. Weak referees get intimidated. It's a stain on Antrim football and has been for a long time. Fact.

Who were the linesmen?
The baldy boy from Antrim Paul burns I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 06:13:35 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 02, 2021, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 02, 2021, 05:25:28 PM
We're in a spiral as regards refs.  They take dogs abuse from the sidelines so I'm sure a lot of good men have walked away or wouldn't go near  it.  So you're left with a small pool and as they make more and more unexplainable decisions they just get more and more abuse and the spiral continues and you end up with more and more poor refs or weak refs who haven't the bottle to make the right calls.

At the championship games I've been to this year the refereeing has been mind boggling bad, lots of decisions which make absolutely no sense, and most of the rows have been preceded by bad decisions which wind everyone up. 

It would take strong leadership to review Jerome's video and sanction LD and address it with the ref, but we've never seen it before so I'm afraid we're stuck with our current lot.  No wonder we're a County who the outside look down at.
There are many reasons why an outsider may look down on our county but I doubt this is one of them. Indiscipline and brushing things under the carpet would be as prevalent, if not more so, in other counties as it is in Antrim.
Anyway, poor Aghagallon. Such a naive, pure footballing bunch. I hope this doesn't put them off.
Another one missing the point. Aghagallon were the ones with the red cards and were the ones "targeting" other players. Yet you'd think LD were the hard lads and Aghagallon did nothing about it ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2021, 06:25:59 PM
Course starts in January lads, some amount of refs and experts about today, so hopefully that'll increase the panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 02, 2021, 06:38:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 02, 2021, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 02, 2021, 05:25:28 PM
We're in a spiral as regards refs.  They take dogs abuse from the sidelines so I'm sure a lot of good men have walked away or wouldn't go near  it.  So you're left with a small pool and as they make more and more unexplainable decisions they just get more and more abuse and the spiral continues and you end up with more and more poor refs or weak refs who haven't the bottle to make the right calls.

At the championship games I've been to this year the refereeing has been mind boggling bad, lots of decisions which make absolutely no sense, and most of the rows have been preceded by bad decisions which wind everyone up. 

It would take strong leadership to review Jerome's video and sanction LD and address it with the ref, but we've never seen it before so I'm afraid we're stuck with our current lot.  No wonder we're a County who the outside look down at.
There are many reasons why an outsider may look down on our county but I doubt this is one of them. Indiscipline and brushing things under the carpet would be as prevalent, if not more so, in other counties as it is in Antrim.
Anyway, poor Aghagallon. Such a naive, pure footballing bunch. I hope this doesn't put them off.
A: good to see you acknowledge the County is guilty of brushing things under the carpet;
B: if you can demonstrate with evidence what goes on in other counties or to what extent then it would be useful to see it for context;
and
C: two wrongs never made a right - shouldn't even need to be said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 03, 2021, 10:40:07 AM
Why has Sean Laverty not been doing any games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 03, 2021, 10:44:39 AM
Good question, is he too busy with intercounty stuff or is he injured or something?

Also don't see Karol Doc out much either

Quote from: asaffgael on September 03, 2021, 10:40:07 AM
Why has Sean Laverty not been doing any games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 03, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest


Referee seemed to be very consistent and the two commentators alluded to this. I thought he was decent too, the black card to Murray was deserved and didn't seem to be afraid to give a card in that situation?

The same player (Murray) seemed to be on the end of constant off the ball. Jerome and Caoimhe Morgan were very diplomatic but made it quite obvious in a round about away. The number 2 should have been off well before he was. I believe the first game he was also very lucky that no lineman were watching as not once did he look at the ball for 60 mins (a rival from the same group assures me this was the case).

The melee at the end seemed to be caused by a wrestling match between forward/defender, then the young lad Number 15 for Agh ran a serious distance to spark a melee.. The melee continued and I'm sure both teams were no angels, probably difficult to make out. 2 yellow cards handed out between both teams ( one ended up being a second it seemed).. Young number 15 then struck again after the melee had ended by the looks of the video, which explains his red.

Looked like two good teams going at it with a very boisterous crowd, team with the better discipline and experience got over the line on the night. Think this Agh team have serious potential and wouldn't be surprised to see the two meet again further in comp if Agh concentrate on playing football. LD seem to be easy target in this case because of their notoriety as one of the bigger clubs. They didn't react to the obvious targeting of their multiple star county players. Still don't think they have enough though, Creggan or Cargin. Hopefully more games online so we can see everyone and get better call as to should be putting the money on with Paddy Power 😊

That's definitely not the way I saw things and the 4 neutrals I was standing beside. I literally watched Murray punching a young fella in the stomach and then jumped to the ground holding his face. Not a finger put on him but from turning round it would look like he got stabbed. The melee at the end was started when one of the young subs was wrestled to the ground and punched a few times and boys jumped in to help him. The linesman needed to notice some of these incident and put a stop to it. The boys I was standing beside play in Division 1 in Armagh and a couple are on the county team. They were laughing and saying how do these boys play county together and how was half the teams not sent off by linesmen and umpires. The ref made a few stupid calls but he would have needed eyes in the back of his head to see all the wee niggly incidents. I actually didn't think it was that bad until the last 20 mins and even that was just more handbags than anything. All the nonsense aside the more experienced LD team deserved the win against a young Aghagallon outfit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest


Referee seemed to be very consistent and the two commentators alluded to this. I thought he was decent too, the black card to Murray was deserved and didn't seem to be afraid to give a card in that situation?

The same player (Murray) seemed to be on the end of constant off the ball. Jerome and Caoimhe Morgan were very diplomatic but made it quite obvious in a round about away. The number 2 should have been off well before he was. I believe the first game he was also very lucky that no lineman were watching as not once did he look at the ball for 60 mins (a rival from the same group assures me this was the case).

The melee at the end seemed to be caused by a wrestling match between forward/defender, then the young lad Number 15 for Agh ran a serious distance to spark a melee.. The melee continued and I'm sure both teams were no angels, probably difficult to make out. 2 yellow cards handed out between both teams ( one ended up being a second it seemed).. Young number 15 then struck again after the melee had ended by the looks of the video, which explains his red.

Looked like two good teams going at it with a very boisterous crowd, team with the better discipline and experience got over the line on the night. Think this Agh team have serious potential and wouldn't be surprised to see the two meet again further in comp if Agh concentrate on playing football. LD seem to be easy target in this case because of their notoriety as one of the bigger clubs. They didn't react to the obvious targeting of their multiple star county players. Still don't think they have enough though, Creggan or Cargin. Hopefully more games online so we can see everyone and get better call as to should be putting the money on with Paddy Power 😊
Aghagallon did concentrate on playing football. You say LD had better discipline but only because the ref never had the balls to card them. Murray was giving it just as much as he was taking it. 15 for Aghagallon ran in to break it up yet was the one that got the line. Looked at the video again and didn't see any strike only several LD players trying to antagonise.
Didn't see any "obvious targeting of their multiple star county players" either  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 03, 2021, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest


Referee seemed to be very consistent and the two commentators alluded to this. I thought he was decent too, the black card to Murray was deserved and didn't seem to be afraid to give a card in that situation?

The same player (Murray) seemed to be on the end of constant off the ball. Jerome and Caoimhe Morgan were very diplomatic but made it quite obvious in a round about away. The number 2 should have been off well before he was. I believe the first game he was also very lucky that no lineman were watching as not once did he look at the ball for 60 mins (a rival from the same group assures me this was the case).

The melee at the end seemed to be caused by a wrestling match between forward/defender, then the young lad Number 15 for Agh ran a serious distance to spark a melee.. The melee continued and I'm sure both teams were no angels, probably difficult to make out. 2 yellow cards handed out between both teams ( one ended up being a second it seemed).. Young number 15 then struck again after the melee had ended by the looks of the video, which explains his red.

Looked like two good teams going at it with a very boisterous crowd, team with the better discipline and experience got over the line on the night. Think this Agh team have serious potential and wouldn't be surprised to see the two meet again further in comp if Agh concentrate on playing football. LD seem to be easy target in this case because of their notoriety as one of the bigger clubs. They didn't react to the obvious targeting of their multiple star county players. Still don't think they have enough though, Creggan or Cargin. Hopefully more games online so we can see everyone and get better call as to should be putting the money on with Paddy Power 😊

Great first post. Welcome to the board. LD very disciplined. A model club in many ways. Hopefully the referees going forward can offer their star players more protection and they have every chance of winning the lot. LD an easy target indeed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 01:33:49 PM
Having done this game in the past it is a poisonous fixture of late, maybe its the management that have allowed this to filter down to the players and it comes on to the pitch, or the players have come up against each other a lot recently and things have turned nasty between them, it happens, doesn't make ok though. 

The referee can only deal with what he sees and is told, linesmen are not always watching what's on behind them either so its infuriating when you ask and no one sees and you can't apply anything..

Can you imagine how good a game it would be if the players wanted the ball and not the man? Be a decent game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:09:30 PM
Nobody is here to castigate clubs amd say this club is a model one and such. It is an opinion on the match itself. Every club has positives and negatives. I do think referees and linesmen in Antrim are good in general and can't be blamed for any of this.

Murray isn't a dirty player from watching him for county and club, he does get special treatment every game I have watched him, as is young Loughran to be fair. But he did strike and didn't seem to argue too much on the video with the ref when carded.

I tend to sway with the team that's in front and one that has "star" forwards when it comes to these situations, up to that final 10 it was a super game between two close teams. My thoughts are why would the team in front and especially their forwards who want to play football get involved with anything.

Reliably informed by the neutral from a team in same group at the first game that Aghagallon had a man sent off for striking another of LDs forward off the ball and an umpire alerted the ref.

We need to protect our footballers across the board in the GAA. Refs can only do so much. Not saying that coaches should let the main men for other teams have a free reign, but at least try to stop them by fair, hard defensive play rather than antagonise and physically/verbally abuse for 60-70 mins.

Championship is heating up and good to see we're playing football this year and even seeing some surprising results across the board.
You obviously didnt watch the game then. He didnt strike was trying to stop his mate on the floor from wrestling with LD man. Funny that he was seen and none of the LD players were.
Funny your "neutral" or umpire from the first game didn't see the headbutt and strike from LD forward in the lead up to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 03, 2021, 02:28:32 PM
From looking at the video it appears that the umpire at the top end where the melee happened was wearing a red LD hooded top, hardly surprised he didn't see anything

Quote from: JimStynes on September 03, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest


Referee seemed to be very consistent and the two commentators alluded to this. I thought he was decent too, the black card to Murray was deserved and didn't seem to be afraid to give a card in that situation?

The same player (Murray) seemed to be on the end of constant off the ball. Jerome and Caoimhe Morgan were very diplomatic but made it quite obvious in a round about away. The number 2 should have been off well before he was. I believe the first game he was also very lucky that no lineman were watching as not once did he look at the ball for 60 mins (a rival from the same group assures me this was the case).

The melee at the end seemed to be caused by a wrestling match between forward/defender, then the young lad Number 15 for Agh ran a serious distance to spark a melee.. The melee continued and I'm sure both teams were no angels, probably difficult to make out. 2 yellow cards handed out between both teams ( one ended up being a second it seemed).. Young number 15 then struck again after the melee had ended by the looks of the video, which explains his red.

Looked like two good teams going at it with a very boisterous crowd, team with the better discipline and experience got over the line on the night. Think this Agh team have serious potential and wouldn't be surprised to see the two meet again further in comp if Agh concentrate on playing football. LD seem to be easy target in this case because of their notoriety as one of the bigger clubs. They didn't react to the obvious targeting of their multiple star county players. Still don't think they have enough though, Creggan or Cargin. Hopefully more games online so we can see everyone and get better call as to should be putting the money on with Paddy Power 😊

That's definitely not the way I saw things and the 4 neutrals I was standing beside. I literally watched Murray punching a young fella in the stomach and then jumped to the ground holding his face. Not a finger put on him but from turning round it would look like he got stabbed. The melee at the end was started when one of the young subs was wrestled to the ground and punched a few times and boys jumped in to help him. The linesman needed to notice some of these incident and put a stop to it. The boys I was standing beside play in Division 1 in Armagh and a couple are on the county team. They were laughing and saying how do these boys play county together and how was half the teams not sent off by linesmen and umpires. The ref made a few stupid calls but he would have needed eyes in the back of his head to see all the wee niggly incidents. I actually didn't think it was that bad until the last 20 mins and even that was just more handbags than anything. All the nonsense aside the more experienced LD team deserved the win against a young Aghagallon outfit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 03, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 03, 2021, 02:28:32 PM
From looking at the video it appears that the umpire at the top end where the melee happened was wearing a red LD hooded top, hardly surprised he didn't see anything

Quote from: JimStynes on September 03, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest


Referee seemed to be very consistent and the two commentators alluded to this. I thought he was decent too, the black card to Murray was deserved and didn't seem to be afraid to give a card in that situation?

The same player (Murray) seemed to be on the end of constant off the ball. Jerome and Caoimhe Morgan were very diplomatic but made it quite obvious in a round about away. The number 2 should have been off well before he was. I believe the first game he was also very lucky that no lineman were watching as not once did he look at the ball for 60 mins (a rival from the same group assures me this was the case).

The melee at the end seemed to be caused by a wrestling match between forward/defender, then the young lad Number 15 for Agh ran a serious distance to spark a melee.. The melee continued and I'm sure both teams were no angels, probably difficult to make out. 2 yellow cards handed out between both teams ( one ended up being a second it seemed).. Young number 15 then struck again after the melee had ended by the looks of the video, which explains his red.

Looked like two good teams going at it with a very boisterous crowd, team with the better discipline and experience got over the line on the night. Think this Agh team have serious potential and wouldn't be surprised to see the two meet again further in comp if Agh concentrate on playing football. LD seem to be easy target in this case because of their notoriety as one of the bigger clubs. They didn't react to the obvious targeting of their multiple star county players. Still don't think they have enough though, Creggan or Cargin. Hopefully more games online so we can see everyone and get better call as to should be putting the money on with Paddy Power 😊

That's definitely not the way I saw things and the 4 neutrals I was standing beside. I literally watched Murray punching a young fella in the stomach and then jumped to the ground holding his face. Not a finger put on him but from turning round it would look like he got stabbed. The melee at the end was started when one of the young subs was wrestled to the ground and punched a few times and boys jumped in to help him. The linesman needed to notice some of these incident and put a stop to it. The boys I was standing beside play in Division 1 in Armagh and a couple are on the county team. They were laughing and saying how do these boys play county together and how was half the teams not sent off by linesmen and umpires. The ref made a few stupid calls but he would have needed eyes in the back of his head to see all the wee niggly incidents. I actually didn't think it was that bad until the last 20 mins and even that was just more handbags than anything. All the nonsense aside the more experienced LD team deserved the win against a young Aghagallon outfit.

The ref was wearing LD shorts and socks also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 03, 2021, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:09:30 PM
Nobody is here to castigate clubs amd say this club is a model one and such. It is an opinion on the match itself. Every club has positives and negatives. I do think referees and linesmen in Antrim are good in general and can't be blamed for any of this.

Murray isn't a dirty player from watching him for county and club, he does get special treatment every game I have watched him, as is young Loughran to be fair. But he did strike and didn't seem to argue too much on the video with the ref when carded.

I tend to sway with the team that's in front and one that has "star" forwards when it comes to these situations, up to that final 10 it was a super game between two close teams. My thoughts are why would the team in front and especially their forwards who want to play football get involved with anything.

Reliably informed by the neutral from a team in same group at the first game that Aghagallon had a man sent off for striking another of LDs forward off the ball and an umpire alerted the ref.

We need to protect our footballers across the board in the GAA. Refs can only do so much. Not saying that coaches should let the main men for other teams have a free reign, but at least try to stop them by fair, hard defensive play rather than antagonise and physically/verbally abuse for 60-70 mins.

Championship is heating up and good to see we're playing football this year and even seeing some surprising results across the board.
You obviously didnt watch the game then. He didnt strike was trying to stop his mate on the floor from wrestling with LD man. Funny that he was seen and none of the LD players were.
Funny your "neutral" or umpire from the first game didn't see the headbutt and strike from LD forward in the lead up to it.

Stand corrected. But did two players not get a yellow card (one from each team) and one red card after that melee?

Yes, the neutral would have been at the other game that night, but it wasn't played and many went to watch the first Agh/Ld game. I'm not here to defend or castigate anyone, but have to ask why it's always the team you're defending getting sent off?

All teams should taken ownership of their discipline and call it as it is. Not try to blame players reputations or referees scared to put them off. We've all seen the McCanns/Murray/McGourtys sent off in big championship games before.

Checked who referee was from first game and is probably considered to be best in the county and his usual umpires would have a very indifferent/frosty relationship with LD I imagine as there was many bad rows between those teams over the years. Be strange for them to favour a PC/CM in that situation, probably just doing their job properly and calling it for what they seen as is their role. Protect players and alert the referee to any ill discipline .

What was he driving to get from aldergrove to Hannahstown to see the first minute red card?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:09:30 PM
Nobody is here to castigate clubs amd say this club is a model one and such. It is an opinion on the match itself. Every club has positives and negatives. I do think referees and linesmen in Antrim are good in general and can't be blamed for any of this.

Murray isn't a dirty player from watching him for county and club, he does get special treatment every game I have watched him, as is young Loughran to be fair. But he did strike and didn't seem to argue too much on the video with the ref when carded.

I tend to sway with the team that's in front and one that has "star" forwards when it comes to these situations, up to that final 10 it was a super game between two close teams. My thoughts are why would the team in front and especially their forwards who want to play football get involved with anything.

Reliably informed by the neutral from a team in same group at the first game that Aghagallon had a man sent off for striking another of LDs forward off the ball and an umpire alerted the ref.

We need to protect our footballers across the board in the GAA. Refs can only do so much. Not saying that coaches should let the main men for other teams have a free reign, but at least try to stop them by fair, hard defensive play rather than antagonise and physically/verbally abuse for 60-70 mins.

Championship is heating up and good to see we're playing football this year and even seeing some surprising results across the board.
You obviously didnt watch the game then. He didnt strike was trying to stop his mate on the floor from wrestling with LD man. Funny that he was seen and none of the LD players were.
Funny your "neutral" or umpire from the first game didn't see the headbutt and strike from LD forward in the lead up to it.

Stand corrected. But did two players not get a yellow card (one from each team) and one red card after that melee?

Yes, the neutral would have been at the other game that night, but it wasn't played and many went to watch the first Agh/Ld game. I'm not here to defend or castigate anyone, but have to ask why it's always the team you're defending getting sent off?

All teams should taken ownership of their discipline and call it as it is. Not try to blame players reputations or referees scared to put them off. We've all seen the McCanns/Murray/McGourtys sent off in big championship games before.

Checked who referee was from first game and is probably considered to be best in the county and his usual umpires would have a very indifferent/frosty relationship with LD I imagine as there was many bad rows between those teams over the years. Be strange for them to favour a PC/CM in that situation, probably just doing their job properly and calling it for what they seen as is their role. Protect players and alert the referee to any ill discipline .
2 reds for Aghagallon and the ref didn't even see it. Came from the linesmen. Nothing for LD and ref and linesmen were aware of plenty off the ball stuff from them but nothing.

Didn't appear to be the case in that game anyway.

Do agree though that more officials should be there, that game was the first I saw with linesmen, yet they made no difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:09:30 PM
Nobody is here to castigate clubs amd say this club is a model one and such. It is an opinion on the match itself. Every club has positives and negatives. I do think referees and linesmen in Antrim are good in general and can't be blamed for any of this.

Murray isn't a dirty player from watching him for county and club, he does get special treatment every game I have watched him, as is young Loughran to be fair. But he did strike and didn't seem to argue too much on the video with the ref when carded.

I tend to sway with the team that's in front and one that has "star" forwards when it comes to these situations, up to that final 10 it was a super game between two close teams. My thoughts are why would the team in front and especially their forwards who want to play football get involved with anything.

Reliably informed by the neutral from a team in same group at the first game that Aghagallon had a man sent off for striking another of LDs forward off the ball and an umpire alerted the ref.

We need to protect our footballers across the board in the GAA. Refs can only do so much. Not saying that coaches should let the main men for other teams have a free reign, but at least try to stop them by fair, hard defensive play rather than antagonise and physically/verbally abuse for 60-70 mins.

Championship is heating up and good to see we're playing football this year and even seeing some surprising results across the board.
You obviously didnt watch the game then. He didnt strike was trying to stop his mate on the floor from wrestling with LD man. Funny that he was seen and none of the LD players were.
Funny your "neutral" or umpire from the first game didn't see the headbutt and strike from LD forward in the lead up to it.

Stand corrected. But did two players not get a yellow card (one from each team) and one red card after that melee?

Yes, the neutral would have been at the other game that night, but it wasn't played and many went to watch the first Agh/Ld game. I'm not here to defend or castigate anyone, but have to ask why it's always the team you're defending getting sent off?

All teams should taken ownership of their discipline and call it as it is. Not try to blame players reputations or referees scared to put them off. We've all seen the McCanns/Murray/McGourtys sent off in big championship games before.

Checked who referee was from first game and is probably considered to be best in the county and his usual umpires would have a very indifferent/frosty relationship with LD I imagine as there was many bad rows between those teams over the years. Be strange for them to favour a PC/CM in that situation, probably just doing their job properly and calling it for what they seen as is their role. Protect players and alert the referee to any ill discipline .
2 reds for Aghagallon and the ref didn't even see it. Came from the linesmen. Nothing for LD and ref and linesmen were aware of plenty off the ball stuff from them but nothing.

Didn't appear to be the case in that game anyway.

Do agree though that more officials should be there, that game was the first I saw with linesmen, yet they made no difference.

I thought it a yellow card to number 2 for Agh which was a second yellow and a yellow to LD player who I assume he was tangling with. Then a straight red for AL? Again happy to stand corrected.

Absolutely, the more the better. Unless issue with resources and too many games on the one night there should be linesmen/umpires for every championship game, as I do believe it's provides for a better spectacle. Using this game as an example, two teams with some outstanding forwards and if they're protected more then it makes for a better game/scores etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 03, 2021, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 02:09:30 PM
Nobody is here to castigate clubs amd say this club is a model one and such. It is an opinion on the match itself. Every club has positives and negatives. I do think referees and linesmen in Antrim are good in general and can't be blamed for any of this.

Murray isn't a dirty player from watching him for county and club, he does get special treatment every game I have watched him, as is young Loughran to be fair. But he did strike and didn't seem to argue too much on the video with the ref when carded.

I tend to sway with the team that's in front and one that has "star" forwards when it comes to these situations, up to that final 10 it was a super game between two close teams. My thoughts are why would the team in front and especially their forwards who want to play football get involved with anything.

Reliably informed by the neutral from a team in same group at the first game that Aghagallon had a man sent off for striking another of LDs forward off the ball and an umpire alerted the ref.

We need to protect our footballers across the board in the GAA. Refs can only do so much. Not saying that coaches should let the main men for other teams have a free reign, but at least try to stop them by fair, hard defensive play rather than antagonise and physically/verbally abuse for 60-70 mins.

Championship is heating up and good to see we're playing football this year and even seeing some surprising results across the board.

You are maybe new to watching football as well.. couple of things I disagree with - 1 - The linesman in that game where a disgrace, the amount of people they allowed on the pitch.

2 - Have you ever watched LD?? They love slowing the game down when they are winning and making it as stop start as possible. Your comment on that and favouring county players is a bit stupid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 03, 2021, 03:27:55 PM
The red card from the first game was when Murray headbutted the full back and the Aghagallon full back stupidly retaliated. The full back who got sent off wouldn't be the fighting type either. LD are good at the dark arts and do it when the officials aren't watching. Conor Murray hit a fellow County teammate from aghagallon in full view of the bank of supporters in St. John's last year and not one official seen it either. Have to hand it to them, they're good at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 03:59:00 PM
I would say that LDs lack of know how towards end of games and dark arts have counted against them over the years, probably cost them an additional champ or two. They're a bit naive and too attacking at silly times.

It comes across sour grapes to me when you keep saying that the Agh boys were just unlucky or picked on. Every team has got a decision for or against if your team keeps getting done for striking then who os at fault for that?

Of top my head, Mick McCann has been sent off in a semi final, the two Murrays and Cunningham have been red carded or black carded in big games the last year or two. The Johnston's at Creggan also. Sort your own issue out with your own discipline and stop looking for the bogey man from other clubs or officials and your gripes might lessen. .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2021, 05:02:03 PM
is there bad blood between these clubs?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 03, 2021, 05:18:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 03, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 03, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 02, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 02, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
Was I watching the Same match? LD weren't only to blame surely. Aghagallon seemed to try and boot the Murray with the yellow hair out of the match all night . The Aghagallon boys who got sent off deserved it though maybe the ref or linesmen didn't see a LD aggression in the melee but that doesnt mean the Aghagallon boys were innocent
He deserved a good booting for dying his hair blonde in the first place, he's about 30 and he's up to that carry on.
Agree with the above as well, referee was shocking and linesmen were just as bad. Blinkers on all night and afraid to show LD men cards. Seems to be one rule for the big clubs and another for the rest


Referee seemed to be very consistent and the two commentators alluded to this. I thought he was decent too, the black card to Murray was deserved and didn't seem to be afraid to give a card in that situation?

The same player (Murray) seemed to be on the end of constant off the ball. Jerome and Caoimhe Morgan were very diplomatic but made it quite obvious in a round about away. The number 2 should have been off well before he was. I believe the first game he was also very lucky that no lineman were watching as not once did he look at the ball for 60 mins (a rival from the same group assures me this was the case).

The melee at the end seemed to be caused by a wrestling match between forward/defender, then the young lad Number 15 for Agh ran a serious distance to spark a melee.. The melee continued and I'm sure both teams were no angels, probably difficult to make out. 2 yellow cards handed out between both teams ( one ended up being a second it seemed).. Young number 15 then struck again after the melee had ended by the looks of the video, which explains his red.

Looked like two good teams going at it with a very boisterous crowd, team with the better discipline and experience got over the line on the night. Think this Agh team have serious potential and wouldn't be surprised to see the two meet again further in comp if Agh concentrate on playing football. LD seem to be easy target in this case because of their notoriety as one of the bigger clubs. They didn't react to the obvious targeting of their multiple star county players. Still don't think they have enough though, Creggan or Cargin. Hopefully more games online so we can see everyone and get better call as to should be putting the money on with Paddy Power 😊

That's definitely not the way I saw things and the 4 neutrals I was standing beside. I literally watched Murray punching a young fella in the stomach and then jumped to the ground holding his face. Not a finger put on him but from turning round it would look like he got stabbed. The melee at the end was started when one of the young subs was wrestled to the ground and punched a few times and boys jumped in to help him. The linesman needed to notice some of these incident and put a stop to it. The boys I was standing beside play in Division 1 in Armagh and a couple are on the county team. They were laughing and saying how do these boys play county together and how was half the teams not sent off by linesmen and umpires. The ref made a few stupid calls but he would have needed eyes in the back of his head to see all the wee niggly incidents. I actually didn't think it was that bad until the last 20 mins and even that was just more handbags than anything. All the nonsense aside the more experienced LD team deserved the win against a young Aghagallon outfit.
Holy moly, people from other counties looking down at us. Must be a one off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 03, 2021, 06:21:57 PM
On that video there's some amount of LD back room men on the line/pitch throughout the match.  And some amount of them running about in the middle of the melee as well.  Aghagallon May have had too many as well but it's harder to see.

Does anyone know are there rules to control the number of back room people allowed on a sideline? If that linesman was getting it in the ear from them all night then I wouldn't be surprised if it affected his decision making, he's only human.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:44:16 PM
His words
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 03, 2021, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 03, 2021, 06:21:57 PM
On that video there's some amount of LD back room men on the line/pitch throughout the match.  And some amount of them running about in the middle of the melee as well.  Aghagallon May have had too many as well but it's harder to see.

Does anyone know are there rules to control the number of back room people allowed on a sideline? If that linesman was getting it in the ear from them all night then I wouldn't be surprised if it affected his decision making, he's only human.

Your can have a maximum of 7 ( manager/ coaches/ medics/ stats)  on the sideline plus 2 club  officials.
Maximun match day panel is 32 !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 03, 2021, 10:32:50 PM
Thanks.  Surprised it's as many as 9 non players on the sideline.  Bit of a recipe for problems.  I assume none are allowed on the pitch during a melee!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 11:13:44 PM
I don't think the rules have changed on melee's, it's always been against the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
time to dry your eyes and move on ! U r still in championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 04, 2021, 10:41:35 AM
This conversation has completely swung towards refereeing. That is only part of it and is missing the point. The issue is the same small group of clubs and their thug antics year after year. Is it a cultural thing or are they coached this way?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 11:57:04 AM
Asked this question the other day after coming off the pitch, are coaches training players to niggle/sledge/annoy/harass certain players rather than going for the ball? The farting about on kick outs and lads checking players runs it's impossible to control.

The ref is watching the kick out to see if it passes the D or 21, turn and watch the mark, make sure there's no pushing and that's just got kick outs!! I've absolutely no other sight than concentrating on that. What goes on elsewhere is difficult to catch.

Linesman or umpires can't call 'live' fouls, will only bring you in if it's a yellow or red after play has stopped.

The linesmen, refs or umpires don't give a crap who wins, they just want a hassle free 60 mins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 04, 2021, 12:09:24 PM
Milltown would it be common or uncommon in Antrim to use radio between the officials?  I spoke to a ref in Derry who would be using ear piece communication with his linesmen in championship matches and he said it made a massive difference in being able to keep a lid on things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 12:13:57 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 04, 2021, 12:09:24 PM
Milltown would it be common or uncommon in Antrim to use radio between the officials?  I spoke to a ref in Derry who would be using ear piece communication with his linesmen in championship matches and he said it made a massive difference in being able to keep a lid on things.

We do, I had them in my game on Wednesday, makes a big difference, but we've maybe one set, it's an expensive piece of equipment in fairness, maybe the inter county lads have their own.

But here's the problem, with junior intermediate and senior hurling this weekend we won't have enough people for linesman or umpires...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 04, 2021, 12:30:22 PM
Thanks.  It sounds like a good thing to invest in, but as you say, you need a body to wear it.  I'm sure there's not enough money to go around, but I wonder do we spend what we have on some things less useful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
time to dry your eyes and move on ! U r still in championship
You?
Eyes are dry. Just highlighting the difference in treatment some teams get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
time to dry your eyes and move on ! U r still in championship
You?
Eyes are dry. Just highlighting the difference in treatment some teams get.

By all accounts the Endas and Agh game had some very ill discipline, saffron gael described it as " off the ball incidents and unsavoury scenes". Seems to be a recurring theme with one of those teams?


Was that the fault of the officials or again Endas fault for being thugs as some on here seem to keep blaming other clubs for their own discipline problems?

Does look like coaching has turned more into sledging/harrsssing etc and to be fair to some coaches, they probably think they need to do that more against the better teams. At county level, Kerry/Dublin have the best forwards, maybe not this year. In antrim club, Cargin, LD,Creggan, PG1,have the best attacking players in the county probably, some coaches might be thinking they need to use under hand tactics to stop them to even the match out? Hard for refs to see all that.


I think it's a good call for county board to invest in getting the officials micd up and try recruit more ( I've no doubt they probably are) I believe other sports are having serious issue with resource for ref at the moment as well and games called off.

Didn't know linesmen couldn't call fouls "live". Would it be good rule to propose that linesmen can call it live to refs? Gives more of a focus for them on the game and helps refs/allows for better attacking play I imagine? Which we all want to see no matter the allegiance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
It's a numbers game and how do you entice a potential referee when all you have to do is listen to the sidelines at every game? It's surprising we have any referees.

So while we all have good intentions it's still some guy giving up his time to head up the country to be given dogs abuse by buck eejit who's probably never kicked/struck a ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
time to dry your eyes and move on ! U r still in championship
You?
Eyes are dry. Just highlighting the difference in treatment some teams get.

By all accounts the Endas and Agh game had some very ill discipline, saffron gael described it as " off the ball incidents and unsavoury scenes". Seems to be a recurring theme with one of those teams?


Was that the fault of the officials or again Endas fault for being thugs as some on here seem to keep blaming other clubs for their own discipline problems?

Does look like coaching has turned more into sledging/harrsssing etc and to be fair to some coaches, they probably think they need to do that more against the better teams. At county level, Kerry/Dublin have the best forwards, maybe not this year. In antrim club, Cargin, LD,Creggan, PG1,have the best attacking players in the county probably, some coaches might be thinking they need to use under hand tactics to stop them to even the match out? Hard for refs to see all that.


I think it's a good call for county board to invest in getting the officials micd up and try recruit more ( I've no doubt they probably are) I believe other sports are having serious issue with resource for ref at the moment as well and games called off.

Didn't know linesmen couldn't call fouls "live". Would it be good rule to propose that linesmen can call it live to refs? Gives more of a focus for them on the game and helps refs/allows for better attacking play I imagine? Which we all want to see no matter the allegiance!
No one is blaming other clubs here nor does any clubs involved in that match have "discipline problems" or be in a recurring theme. You stick to reading saffron Gael reports.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
time to dry your eyes and move on ! U r still in championship
You?
Eyes are dry. Just highlighting the difference in treatment some teams get.

By all accounts the Endas and Agh game had some very ill discipline, saffron gael described it as " off the ball incidents and unsavoury scenes". Seems to be a recurring theme with one of those teams?


Was that the fault of the officials or again Endas fault for being thugs as some on here seem to keep blaming other clubs for their own discipline problems?

Does look like coaching has turned more into sledging/harrsssing etc and to be fair to some coaches, they probably think they need to do that more against the better teams. At county level, Kerry/Dublin have the best forwards, maybe not this year. In antrim club, Cargin, LD,Creggan, PG1,have the best attacking players in the county probably, some coaches might be thinking they need to use under hand tactics to stop them to even the match out? Hard for refs to see all that.


I think it's a good call for county board to invest in getting the officials micd up and try recruit more ( I've no doubt they probably are) I believe other sports are having serious issue with resource for ref at the moment as well and games called off.

Didn't know linesmen couldn't call fouls "live". Would it be good rule to propose that linesmen can call it live to refs? Gives more of a focus for them on the game and helps refs/allows for better attacking play I imagine? Which we all want to see no matter the allegiance!
No one is blaming other clubs here nor does any clubs involved in that match have "discipline problems" or be in a recurring theme. You stick to reading saffron Gael reports.


That's right, all those  other posts that have been pushing the narrative that Aghagallon are getting picked on by officials while the big clubs/players get special treatment must have escaped your attention. Despite clear  evidence showing otherwise. There's a team there with serious potential to win championships over the years and benefit the county team as a result, blaming other teams and officials for your lack of discipline in a few games when it's tight is a nonsense.

Understand the issue with resources and getting refs out, maybe increase pay if possible from GAA central funds to attract snd incentives such as All Ireland tickets ?

On another note and we all might agree, could a small area on the sideline be marked out and team officials aren't allowed to move out of it? Much like soccer. Might be hard to manage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 03:17:43 PM
If clubs would discipline their own supporters and players and officials for breaking a clubs code of conduct.  That would go a long way to reducing the clampits at games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 03:17:43 PM
If clubs would discipline their own supporters and players and officials for breaking a clubs code of conduct.  That would go a long way to reducing the clampits at games

I don't think anyone can argue with that. Nature of club politics and family ties sadly prevents that happening more often. One less worrie for the officials amd even players to deal with
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 04, 2021, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 04, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
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Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 03, 2021, 04:43:22 PM
No one said Aghagallon were picked on or unlucky.
Aghagallon didn't have an issue with discipline either, what people were saying was that Aghagallon got boys sent off and LD didn't, in not just one game but two in fact, and that the ref made a mess of it and is becoming the norm in these big games involving these clubs.

Player openly said he punched player in the stomach after being told to stop messing about and gets sent off is not difficult. What happened prior to that is up for debate as it wasn't seen.
This is what I'm talking about.
Funny you or your umpire didn't see CMs headbutt and strike that caused the retaliation. Just Aghagallons. Gotcha.

How is the ref going to see that?  The umpire said they were have some argy bargy. You got it right he retaliated and got caught. Now if you're more disciplined they havevwon that game and been in the quarters.

Can't teach stupid
So one was seen and the other wasn't. Gotcha. Seems to be a pattern here

The lad took his medicine and comes across like a nice fella. It's a petty he bought that one, play the ball and you can't get sent off.

Again you can't teach stupid.
Ok. So it's "he bought that one" now.  ;D
Perpetrators allowed to do what they do.
It would appear if you play the man you can't get sent off either.
You can't teach stupid is right.
time to dry your eyes and move on ! U r still in championship
You?
Eyes are dry. Just highlighting the difference in treatment some teams get.

By all accounts the Endas and Agh game had some very ill discipline, saffron gael described it as " off the ball incidents and unsavoury scenes". Seems to be a recurring theme with one of those teams?


Was that the fault of the officials or again Endas fault for being thugs as some on here seem to keep blaming other clubs for their own discipline problems?

Does look like coaching has turned more into sledging/harrsssing etc and to be fair to some coaches, they probably think they need to do that more against the better teams. At county level, Kerry/Dublin have the best forwards, maybe not this year. In antrim club, Cargin, LD,Creggan, PG1,have the best attacking players in the county probably, some coaches might be thinking they need to use under hand tactics to stop them to even the match out? Hard for refs to see all that.


I think it's a good call for county board to invest in getting the officials micd up and try recruit more ( I've no doubt they probably are) I believe other sports are having serious issue with resource for ref at the moment as well and games called off.

Didn't know linesmen couldn't call fouls "live". Would it be good rule to propose that linesmen can call it live to refs? Gives more of a focus for them on the game and helps refs/allows for better attacking play I imagine? Which we all want to see no matter the allegiance!
No one is blaming other clubs here nor does any clubs involved in that match have "discipline problems" or be in a recurring theme. You stick to reading saffron Gael reports.


That's right, all those  other posts that have been pushing the narrative that Aghagallon are getting picked on by officials while the big clubs/players get special treatment must have escaped your attention. Despite clear  evidence showing otherwise. There's a team there with serious potential to win championships over the years and benefit the county team as a result, blaming other teams and officials for your lack of discipline in a few games when it's tight is a nonsense.

Understand the issue with resources and getting refs out, maybe increase pay if possible from GAA central funds to attract snd incentives such as All Ireland tickets ?

On another note and we all might agree, could a small area on the sideline be marked out and team officials aren't allowed to move out of it? Much like soccer. Might be hard to manage?
There isn't clear evidence showing otherwise.

No one is blaming other teams either. Aghagallon haven't had a lack of discipline. Just funny that numerous people have pointed out the difference in the two clubs and what was and wasn't punished on video the other day for example. You're going off saffron Gael reports which says it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 04, 2021, 05:21:53 PM
One official told us to f**k off back to Armagh. Disgrace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 05:26:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 04, 2021, 05:21:53 PM
One official told us to f**k off back to Armagh. Disgrace.

That's uncalled for, Tyrone would be better  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 07:59:00 PM
The poison in that match was a fella geting paid to take a team against his brothers and son. But sure u all ignore it as I'm just old fashioned dinosaur for being agaist paid coaches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 05, 2021, 07:16:59 AM
You are full of so much sh!t, these teams have been at each other before this management was in situ

;)
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 07:59:00 PM
The poison in that match was a fella geting paid to take a team against his brothers and son. But sure u all ignore it as I'm just old fashioned dinosaur for being agaist paid coaches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2021, 09:05:44 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 05, 2021, 07:16:59 AM
You are full of so much sh!t, these teams have been at each other before this management was in situ

;)
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 07:59:00 PM
The poison in that match was a fella geting paid to take a team against his brothers and son. But sure u all ignore it as I'm just old fashioned dinosaur for being agaist paid coaches

That fool is best ignored, ye can't teach stupid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 05, 2021, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 04, 2021, 07:59:00 PM
The poison in that match was a fella geting paid to take a team against his brothers and son. But sure u all ignore it as I'm just old fashioned dinosaur for being agaist paid coaches

Are you actually suggesting that he should not have coached another club outside of his own?
I think the poison you may be referring to might be more to do with the LD "discipline" he has brought to Aghagallon. All you have to do is look at their recent red card and disciplinary record. It speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 06, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
Is there actually poison between clubs that have been in same division for last 3/4 years max or more a couple incidents throughout games?

The recent game had nothing major until last ten with what looked like one melee from the live stream?

Seems we're now happy to target a club, then an individual from said club who is now managing Aghagallon for their red cards?

Has there been any other red cards in this group in the other games?

The only poison I see is small number of posters on this board with clear agendas and hatred against officials or certain clubs/individuals. Embarrassing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 06, 2021, 02:05:04 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 06, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
Is there actually poison between clubs that have been in same division for last 3/4 years max or more a couple incidents throughout games?

The recent game had nothing major until last ten with what looked like one melee from the live stream?

Seems we're now happy to target a club, then an individual from said club who is now managing Aghagallon for their red cards?

Has there been any other red cards in this group in the other games?

The only poison I see is small number of posters on this board with clear agendas and hatred against officials or certain clubs/individuals. Embarrassing
You weren't there, one camera angle, no neutral umpires, I know Id try to take advantage of that all day back in the day! He was poor plain and simple not strong enough to deal with both sides period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on September 06, 2021, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 06, 2021, 02:05:04 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on September 06, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
Is there actually poison between clubs that have been in same division for last 3/4 years max or more a couple incidents throughout games?

The recent game had nothing major until last ten with what looked like one melee from the live stream?

Seems we're now happy to target a club, then an individual from said club who is now managing Aghagallon for their red cards?

Has there been any other red cards in this group in the other games?

The only poison I see is small number of posters on this board with clear agendas and hatred against officials or certain clubs/individuals. Embarrassing
You weren't there, one camera angle, no neutral umpires, I know Id try to take advantage of that all day back in the day! He was poor plain and simple not strong enough to deal with both sides period.

Accept that's your opinion and seems constructive if nothing else.

But I was referring to people accusing an individual in charge of Agh and his original club for several red cards over few matches.

Obvs the dynamic between their mgt and some of Lamh Dergs players adds spice to the match, but never thought would be poison between two clubs who would have hardly had much history against each other over the years?

Every club has its clown and respective teams within clubs . Disgraceful to label an individual and then tar a full club and it's members, no matter who the club is. These are the agendas and real poisonous issues that divide the county. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 03:10:01 PM
There are a couple of fairly agenda driven boys on this section now tbh and some stuff can be very personalised I find.

Incidentally if you go back to the likes of the 90s , early noughties etc and the likes of St. Paul's cargin and how it panned out then various other rivalries from various clubs the rivalries we have now are pretty healthy because there have been no court cases that I am aware of in a long time!! (Kind of a joke but also true...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2021, 04:02:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 03:10:01 PM
There are a couple of fairly agenda driven boys on this section now tbh and some stuff can be very personalised I find.

Incidentally if you go back to the likes of the 90s , early noughties etc and the likes of St. Paul's cargin and how it panned out then various other rivalries from various clubs the rivalries we have now are pretty healthy because there have been no court cases that I am aware of in a long time!! (Kind of a joke but also true...)

Ah the good old knock your bollox in when the ref isn't looking days  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on September 06, 2021, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 03:10:01 PM
There are a couple of fairly agenda driven boys on this section now tbh and some stuff can be very personalised I find.

Incidentally if you go back to the likes of the 90s , early noughties etc and the likes of St. Paul's cargin and how it panned out then various other rivalries from various clubs the rivalries we have now are pretty healthy because there have been no court cases that I am aware of in a long time!! (Kind of a joke but also true...)

I was up in Casement to watch the hurling final that day and that match preceded it. The lad I got a lift withs Da was keen on the football so we stayed to watch. I've never seen anything like it before or since and IIRC the score was something like 6 points to 5 at full time..

St Pauls had a young lad in corner forward and the shorts were either wedged up his arse or pulled down by the lad marking him....

crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 04:36:53 PM
There were definitely court cases in those days - now not so many.

Jc I still mind the tv footage well too though wasn't there that day. Looked pretty mad but was par for the course for some of those games back round then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 06, 2021, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 04:36:53 PM
There were definitely court cases in those days - now not so many.

Jc I still mind the tv footage well too though wasn't there that day. Looked pretty mad but was par for the course for some of those games back round then.
How this conversation has evolved back to Cargin, St Pauls or court cases is anyones guess. Your memory not great it was 0.9 - 0.5 to Cargin, a comfortable win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 06:41:34 PM
Wasn't my memory tbf. Some teams getting painted as very dirty - point really just that not dirty at all compared to ten or twenty years ago and wasn't specific to one team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2021, 08:10:42 PM
Name me one team in the county that hasn't been involved in a melee at some age group?

It happens, it's and unfortunate part of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 08:29:27 PM
East Belfast gac lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2021, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 06, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2021, 08:10:42 PM
Name me one team in the county that hasn't been involved in a melee at some age group?

It happens, it's and unfortunate part of the game.
Wolfe Tones Greencastle.

There's a big lad on that team who'd start a fight in an empty house!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2021, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 08:29:27 PM
East Belfast gac lol

They aren't in the county. They play in Down  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
I'll read your post next time >:( lot of shite though about aghagallon are while dirty or ld are. Neither are that bad. They're not angels but pretty much any team at senior level has at least something in them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on September 06, 2021, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2021, 08:10:42 PM
Name me one team in the county that hasn't been involved in a melee at some age group?

The flip side of this is if you are a club, like ours where discipline of a high standard is demanded there would be a couple of sayings you hear about the club.
We are too nice,
You need a bit of badness,
Supporters are too quiet and not hostile enough.
Hard to argue with some of these  ;D

It happens, it's and unfortunate part of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2021, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
I'll read your post next time >:( lot of shite though about aghagallon are while dirty or ld are. Neither are that bad. They're not angels but pretty much any team at senior level has at least something in them.

I'll be honest, I've never had any issues with LD or Aghagallon as a player, manager or ref. I've always been treated well by both of them.

I think there is a few agendas at play on the board here, let it be ref bashing or paid manager bashing. It's a bit embarrassing in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 10:12:49 PM
Yeah I would agree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 07, 2021, 01:39:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2021, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
I'll read your post next time >:( lot of shite though about aghagallon are while dirty or ld are. Neither are that bad. They're not angels but pretty much any team at senior level has at least something in them.

I'll be honest, I've never had any issues with LD or Aghagallon as a player, manager or ref. I've always been treated well by both of them.

I think there is a few agendas at play on the board here, let it be ref bashing or paid manager bashing. It's a bit embarrassing in my opinion.

Just because someone has a strong opinion doesn't mean they have an agenda.
Refereeing in Antrim is most definitely improving and with a recent influx of strong young referees I think the future is bright for all. As long as they don't join the older referees in turning a blind eye to LD antics  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 07, 2021, 01:49:44 PM
Lads draw a line under the recent crap talk, yousens would give Phensic a headache.
On a different note after watching the Lgfa finals should the men's game go down the same route with Senior Intermediate and Junior grades.
We could get a good day's out in Croke following Antrim football squad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 07, 2021, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 07, 2021, 01:49:44 PM
Lads draw a line under the recent crap talk, yousens would give Phensic a headache.
On a different note after watching the Lgfa finals should the men's game go down the same route with Senior Intermediate and Junior grades.
We could get a good day's out in Croke following Antrim football squad

Of course it should. It's bloody ridiculous that it hasn't at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 07, 2021, 04:13:21 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on September 07, 2021, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 07, 2021, 01:49:44 PM
Lads draw a line under the recent crap talk, yousens would give Phensic a headache.
On a different note after watching the Lgfa finals should the men's game go down the same route with Senior Intermediate and Junior grades.
We could get a good day's out in Croke following Antrim football squad

Of course it should. It's bloody ridiculous that it hasn't at this stage.

Junior Finals start very early though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 07, 2021, 05:23:01 PM
It would be a great idea and if you are good enough like the Meath ladies you can progress up the competitions and win at the highest level! Intermediate champions last year, incredible stuff!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 07, 2021, 06:22:13 PM
Incredible for ladies, perhaps. But never in the month on Sundays would it happen in men's football. The standard in the gap is significant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2021, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 07, 2021, 06:22:13 PM
Incredible for ladies, perhaps. But never in the month on Sundays would it happen in men's football. The standard in the gap is significant

But you've got to get bout of the bottom to progress and grow at the next level, otherwise why bother if the gap is too significant ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 07, 2021, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2021, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 07, 2021, 06:22:13 PM
Incredible for ladies, perhaps. But never in the month on Sundays would it happen in men's football. The standard in the gap is significant

But you've got to get bout of the bottom to progress and grow at the next level, otherwise why bother if the gap is too significant ?

Agree entirely 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 07, 2021, 08:34:03 PM
Yes, All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior is the answer staring us in the face.  It would work very well for Antrim, gives the players something realistic to aim for and  a potential big day out for us lot. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2021, 11:11:23 PM
Wholeheartedly agree. Time for change in this regard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on September 08, 2021, 04:31:56 AM
Don't agree with the senior, intermediate Junior inter county championships.

Going forward, the real barometer for progress is in the leagues, and they will grow in importance with the separation of inter county and club seasons.

County football is representative football. Antrim have both the number of clubs and players to be competitive at the highest level. Need to get the couching sorted, and playing junior will not benefit this.

Need a 20 year view on progression and a focus on leagues. AS soon as Antrim are a mainstay in Div 2, we will be giving Ulster Championships a run
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 08, 2021, 08:48:03 AM
Yes but a junior and then onto intermediate championship win in croke possibly before a senior all Ireland match is something to strive for. Give us a reason to be wearing the saffron in croke park at the business end of the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 09:04:23 AM
While we should always concentrate on the league and improving through the divisions, its in the DNA of any GAA player of whatever code they play that Championship is where they lift their game, always has and will be near impossible to change, even at club level the difference in gears to league is massive.

That being said a sustained level of games at div 2 or pushing for div 1 would hugely be bringing on better players to at least challenge in Ulster and have a run at the qualifiers.

So the question would be how do Antrim bring a championship level to the league? Only then with that push can we expect Antrim to get out of div 3 and stay at Div 2 for a period of time. If we can establish ourselves as a div 2 team then yes then yes Kickham csc has a point, but if we can't apply championship form to the league then the routes of Junior Interm. and Senior competitions might do that instead

It may well be that your league performances decide what level you are at anyways, plenty of fine details would need to be sorted first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2021, 03:45:30 PM
The thing that is holding up any innovative thinking is the old dinosaur - the provincial championships. Only one of these has any real sense of anticipation at this stage, the others stagnant and void of prestige or excitement.

Do away with them - or let the Mc Kenna Cup become the Ulster cship. The McKennas really won't mind.

Then it becomes easy. 3 competitions of 12 counties.

Guarantee of 11 games.

Top 8 go into quarter finals of all Ireland jnr, int and snr cship.

In the roll of a dice leagues assume cship like importance. Larger crowds. 14 games max. Shorter inter county season.
Over mid July. All county players return to clubs for remainder of club season, club cships

There's only one loser in this win win win scenario.
The provincial councils (blazers). Unfortunately they are the blazers that provide the show of hands. Would a turkey vote for Christmas?

The Self Preservation Society.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 08, 2021, 09:35:04 PM
Double up McKenna Cup as Ulster Championship.... why play the exact same competition twice? Keeps the history, tradition and prestige.

League

Div1&2 for Sam Maguire
Div3&4 for the Paidi O se or whatever it will be called
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 09, 2021, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: breakingball on September 08, 2021, 09:35:04 PM
Double up McKenna Cup as Ulster Championship.... why play the exact same competition twice? Keeps the history, tradition and prestige.

League

Div1&2 for Sam Maguire
Div3&4 for the Paidi O se or whatever it will be called

that is the simple solution which ticks every box its glaringly obvious this is the solution. play the ulster champ before the league (replacing McKenna cup) making it a complete stand alone comp. won't need to take up as many weekends as can run all quarter finals in same weekend etc. then straight into league, then the 2 tier championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 09, 2021, 09:42:29 AM
So are we playing for the Mc kenna Cup or the Anglo Celt Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 17, 2021, 12:35:14 AM
Was listening to a few Tyorne players talking about 'culture' and a culture of winning.

Got me thinking about us and Casement and how we've performed there and how few big games we've ever won. Have we won just 2 senior Ulster championship GAMES in 40 years there?

Am I wrong in thinking that our last Ulster football championship win there was 2003 v Cavan?

Our last u-21 championship win at Casement was v Armagh in 2003

Our last Minor championship win there was v Donegal in 1998??

If we don't win at underage we most likely won't win at senior...what do we do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 17, 2021, 06:55:01 AM
Gearoid Adams appointed Antrim Director of Football

Jesus Wept! The Cultural Renaissance Continues!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2021, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 17, 2021, 06:55:01 AM
Gearoid Adams appointed Antrim Director of Football

Jesus Wept! The Cultural Renaissance Continues!
what your problem with Gerry Junior? ex county player and ex county manager / coach
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 17, 2021, 04:32:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2021, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 17, 2021, 06:55:01 AM
Gearoid Adams appointed Antrim Director of Football

Jesus Wept! The Cultural Renaissance Continues!
what your problem with Gerry Junior? ex county player and ex county manager / coach

Talents go by nature; not by birth
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2021, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2021, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 17, 2021, 06:55:01 AM
Gearoid Adams appointed Antrim Director of Football

Jesus Wept! The Cultural Renaissance Continues!
what your problem with Gerry Junior? ex county player and ex county manager / coach

Is he getting paid?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 17, 2021, 04:57:51 PM
Industrial Wage maybe  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 17, 2021, 08:30:35 PM
Is he that bad an option?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 17, 2021, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 17, 2021, 08:30:35 PM
Is he that bad an option?

Grand title, what does it mean? What will his remit be ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 17, 2021, 10:00:07 PM
Sure he only works part time hours as he's a teacher so he'll be able to do both jobs no bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 17, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 17, 2021, 08:30:35 PM
Is he that bad an option?
what will b needs to explain why he is a bad option and we can have a debate bout it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on September 17, 2021, 10:16:00 PM
One would think people who get any such role as 'director' must have success in terms of playing, but more importantly in coaching and management ? Does he ? If he does then he will get the respect, iif he doesn't then it's a disaster!! Credibility comes from success in sport
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2021, 10:42:15 PM
I've been a strong advocate that we need a capable  person to fulfil this function, and a strong experienced group around him to deliver the bottom line targets that makes the post or position worth fulfilling.

I'm going to wait and see how this plays out, who made the appointment, what the remit us, what is the budget, the plan around it, who else is involved.... and so on. It's not even official yet, so we are discussing something that may not even be real.

If this stacks up I will give any man my support, especially if it's done in a wholly voluntary position. If it's anything less, especially if it's been delivered on a nod and a wink then it's as good as over before it starts!

The devil is in the detail. Let's wait and see how this plays out. Plenty of time for analysis/opinion then!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2021, 11:12:39 PM
Well there's another way of putting it. If it's a good gael doing this for free, then you can't say too much. If it's a paid position then the level of due diligence to find the right candidate goes to another level, as does the scrutiny of credibility, as does the performance.

I'd expect this to be provided for free. I don't think Neil Peden is being reimbursed!

This make more sense?

Sure let's not hammer away at this until the facts emerge. Early days on this development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on September 17, 2021, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 17, 2021, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on September 17, 2021, 10:16:00 PM
One would think people who get any such role as 'director' must have success in terms of playing, but more importantly in coaching and management ? Does he ? If he does then he will get the respect, iif he doesn't then it's a disaster!! Credibility comes from success in sport
I don't disagree with your point but the question leading from your post is are we blessed with "success" in coaching & management in this county? If I'm honest, i wouldn't know what the criteria would be for a director role (apart from 1. St John's man 2. Head of PE in Rathmore  ;D) but without starting negatively it's a good step forward that we have one. Neal Pedan went into the same role in hurling and it's fair to say we have moved on in that code so hopefully we can see similar progress.
Finally, we appointed a management recently that are fairly green and who haven't yet had success (to my knowledge). They've done rightly so far.

I have no irons in the fire, seen this in the Irish news today,and the reason for my comment was what I have seen with this individual in down coaching circles is no success, has he had any school success ?? Club success with St. John's ?? I don't know these things . A DOF is a good concept but
Not working In down currently either need the right man !!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 17, 2021, 11:49:42 PM
Can only be a good thing.

Anything is better than nothing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2021, 12:14:16 AM
Look this is very straightforward. If this is a paid position the job would have been advertised, clubs would have been notified and given time to nominate, and there would be a sub committee set up to make sure the process was transparent.

I'm waiting on the detail emerging on this, the official line so to speak. Was it in today's IN? Anyone care to post it up if so?

We need this position filled badly. There's no doubt about that. That's one thing that's beyond debate!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: John Egans left boot on September 18, 2021, 12:24:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 18, 2021, 12:14:16 AM
Look this is very straightforward. If this is a paid position the job would have been advertised, clubs would have been notified and given time to nominate, and there would be a sub committee set up to make sure the process was transparent.

I'm waiting on the detail emerging on this, the official line so to speak. Was it in today's IN? Anyone care to post it up if so?

We need this position filled badly. There's no doubt about that. That's one thing that's beyond debate!

It's on there Twitter feed - yes you need the position filled but by a man that is a proven loser in coaching - as I said above great idea issue is getting the right personality/ person someone with success as a player/coach is key for people to respect that person will enda mc Ginley respect him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 18, 2021, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on September 18, 2021, 12:24:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 18, 2021, 12:14:16 AM
Look this is very straightforward. If this is a paid position the job would have been advertised, clubs would have been notified and given time to nominate, and there would be a sub committee set up to make sure the process was transparent.

I'm waiting on the detail emerging on this, the official line so to speak. Was it in today's IN? Anyone care to post it up if so?

We need this position filled badly. There's no doubt about that. That's one thing that's beyond debate!

It's on there Twitter feed - yes you need the position filled but by a man that is a proven loser in coaching - as I said above great idea issue is getting the right personality/ person someone with success as a player/coach is key for people to respect that person will enda mc Ginley respect him?
A proven loser in coaching? Define loser. Someone who hasnt won a championship? By god theres some losers about in that case. Very harsh words by yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2021, 10:05:03 AM
Agree EOC. For what it's worth I judge a man's worth around a football team on one core measurement. It's where you start off and what you do with that group, and where you finish.

Plenty of good coaches didn't win plenty of silverware but clearly improved beyond recognition the way their teams played, were set up, very fit, and had them punching well above their weight.

That would be my barometer. Is James Horan a bad manager because he never won an all Ireland?

Give me a man any day who can take average players and have them playing out of their skin and maintain this over a period of time. Not a one off result. And where the next man in possibly allows the set up to revert to mediocre.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 18, 2021, 10:27:45 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 18, 2021, 10:05:03 AM
Agree EOC. For what it's worth I judge a man's worth around a football team on one core measurement. It's where you start off and what you do with that group, and where you finish.

Plenty of good coaches didn't win plenty of silverware but clearly improved beyond recognition the way their teams played, were set up, very fit, and had them punching well above their weight.

That would be my barometer. Is James Horan a bad manager because he never won an all Ireland?

Give me a man any day who can take average players and have them playing out of their skin and maintain this over a period of time. Not a one off result. And where the next man in possibly allows the set up to revert to mediocre.
Yes BS agree. Without knowing the specifics I see that D.O.F role as a very different one to coaching or managing a team. G.A has a good way about him and is level headed, knows Antrim inside out has good contacts / pulling power maybe and comes with vast playing and coaching experience. So why not, all the best to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2021, 10:30:18 AM
Another good point, and the reason why I wait to see the detail. It's all about the remit. Until we know that we are stabbing in the dark.

Creating this position is a good start. Check back a year or so, I've been advocating for this a long time.

The next challenge is to be happy that it's a meaningful plan, positively resourced, one that the club's can get fully behind, and be glad to send their better players to.

This can be a defining turning point in Antrim Football, at best. At worst it can be a PR disaster. I'm open to both positions, but await the detail before making my own call on it.

For what that's actually worth is another thing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
It'll be Gaelic Leagues formed next within the County and then maybe an IRB revival. Well they'll have a lovely new head office in what used to be called Casement Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 18, 2021, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
It'll be Gaelic Leagues formed next within the County and then maybe an IRB revival. Well they'll have a lovely new head office in what used to be called Casement Park.
r u anti Irish ? Anti republican ? Anti Adams ? Spit it out fella
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2021, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
It'll be Gaelic Leagues formed next within the County and then maybe an IRB revival. Well they'll have a lovely new head office in what used to be called Casement Park.

What a tube.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 18, 2021, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
It'll be Gaelic Leagues formed next within the County and then maybe an IRB revival. Well they'll have a lovely new head office in what used to be called Casement Park.
r u anti Irish ? Anti republican ? Anti Adams ? Spit it out fella

Making a bigger balls of Stormont, made a balls of Casement, now going to make a balls of Antrim Gaa, as i have said continually on this board keep the politics out of sport. Hopefully thats clear enough for you Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 18, 2021, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 18, 2021, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
It'll be Gaelic Leagues formed next within the County and then maybe an IRB revival. Well they'll have a lovely new head office in what used to be called Casement Park.
r u anti Irish ? Anti republican ? Anti Adams ? Spit it out fella

Making a bigger balls of Stormont, made a balls of Casement, now going to make a balls of Antrim Gaa, as i have said continually on this board keep the politics out of sport. Hopefully thats clear enough for you Belfast
it's Gerry junior not Gerry senior. Gearoid involved in GAA at least 30 years and don't think he ever played for Sinn Féin in league or championship!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 18, 2021, 10:21:29 PM
Just reading that Anto Finnegan has passed away. Terribly sad. RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 19, 2021, 07:22:12 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 18, 2021, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 18, 2021, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2021, 01:59:15 PM
It'll be Gaelic Leagues formed next within the County and then maybe an IRB revival. Well they'll have a lovely new head office in what used to be called Casement Park.
r u anti Irish ? Anti republican ? Anti Adams ? Spit it out fella

Making a bigger balls of Stormont, made a balls of Casement, now going to make a balls of Antrim Gaa, as i have said continually on this board keep the politics out of sport. Hopefully thats clear enough for you Belfast
it's Gerry junior not Gerry senior. Gearoid involved in GAA at least 30 years and don't think he ever played for Sinn Féin in league or championship!

Your kidding me, seriously! True what they say "That everyday's a school day"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 19, 2021, 04:05:02 PM
Thoughts and prayers for Anto Finnegan, his pain is finally over. A champion and leader of men, one of our finest. Gone but not forgotten!

May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 19, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 19, 2021, 04:05:02 PM
Thoughts and prayers for Anto Finnegan, his pain is finally over. A champion and leader of men, one of our finest. Gone but not forgotten!

May he rest in peace.

+1000
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 19, 2021, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 19, 2021, 04:05:02 PM
Thoughts and prayers for Anto Finnegan, his pain is finally over. A champion and leader of men, one of our finest. Gone but not forgotten!

May he rest in peace.

Well said Bannside. What a battle the poor guy fought. Thoughts with his young family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 20, 2021, 12:15:45 PM
Well said Bannside.
Anto was a magnificent person, a gentleman who never lost his wit, humour and was full of compassion.
Always seen the positive side of things.
Grew up with him in Belfast and can honestly say he had a big impact on everyone he met along the way.
A true friend and a true Gael who will be sadly missed by his family, club mates in St Pauls and Lamh Dearg and the wider GAA family.
A talented footballer and hurler as well.
Proud to have known him.
Always gave his best. He never gave up.
Suaimhneas síoraí dá anam uasal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2021, 12:53:50 PM
Lovely post.

John Martin's tribute was pretty special too, about sharing 12 weeks with Anto, volunteering to build an orphanage in Romania in 1996. And how even on that project which involved 35 people, how he was looked up to as a leader and respected by all.

Despite our petty differences of opinion we have on here, it is heart warming to see that all matters have been put aside during this difficult time for the extended Antrim Football Family, and particularly Big Whitey's team and Antos teammates who delivered (and shared) some magical unforgettable moments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 20, 2021, 01:05:05 PM
Well said everyone - absolute inspiration - the best of GAA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2021, 01:09:18 PM
Yes - it's just so sad but there's just so much to be admired about the guy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 20, 2021, 04:03:52 PM
The pictures coming out of Anto in his playing days, it's noticeable the big crowds in the background in Casement, and those great games against Derry and Down.  Nothing even comes close these days. 
I've nothing to add to the tributes, I met him a few times and he was top class in every sense.  Condolences to his family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2021, 06:24:01 PM
The irony of it all. Whilst one of our greatest ever representatives lies in rest, Coiste Baniste will go ahead with business as normal tonight. As a mark of respect they should have a minutes prayer (round of applause) and reschedule until a more appropriate time. Sometimes a bit of class is needed.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on September 22, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Who else in this forum feels we should get rid of the group stages for championship. get back to straight knockout !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 22, 2021, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 22, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Who else in this forum feels we should get rid of the group stages for championship. get back to straight knockout !!
I agree, this season seems even worse as it is so drawn out. Started on 11th August and proper knockout stuff not until 24th October.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

We're the groups not just introduced to give clubs more games due to Covid? Then kept this year so they could play the league without county players and give teams a chance to bed county players back in before knock out? Look at intermediate, massive groups with dead rubbers the last few rounds, call me old fashioned but having dead rubbers isn't championship football for me. For me 2 teams going all out to get through to the next round, not 1 already out just fielding a team and the other going flat out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 22, 2021, 10:59:19 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

We're the groups not just introduced to give clubs more games due to Covid? Then kept this year so they could play the league without county players and give teams a chance to bed county players back in before knock out? Look at intermediate, massive groups with dead rubbers the last few rounds, call me old fashioned but having dead rubbers isn't championship football for me. For me 2 teams going all out to get through to the next round, not 1 already out just fielding a team and the other going flat out.

Davitts v St.Terseas is the only game in the IFC that has  nothing riding on it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 22, 2021, 11:06:13 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

We're the groups not just introduced to give clubs more games due to Covid? Then kept this year so they could play the league without county players and give teams a chance to bed county players back in before knock out? Look at intermediate, massive groups with dead rubbers the last few rounds, call me old fashioned but having dead rubbers isn't championship football for me. For me 2 teams going all out to get through to the next round, not 1 already out just fielding a team and the other going flat out.

All fair points, and all from a spectators perspective. Players love playing games, thats the whole point. You can't get enough football. Wouldn't be complaining as a player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Tbh I think the coverage is good. Mainly due to the saffron Gael and not the county board mind you but I get to read plenty. I would follow most clubs on Twitter and tend to get good live score updates too.

* Except for live coverage mind you which was excellent last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 23, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Tbh I think the coverage is good. Mainly due to the saffron Gael and not the county board mind you but I get to read plenty. I would follow most clubs on Twitter and tend to get good live score updates too.

* Except for live coverage mind you which was excellent last year.

Compare the Antrim Championship coverage in the Irish News/Gaelic Life to say Down or Tyrone. It is tiny. I'm told it will increase from Quarter final stages but generally the coverage for group games is poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Tbh I think the coverage is good. Mainly due to the saffron Gael and not the county board mind you but I get to read plenty. I would follow most clubs on Twitter and tend to get good live score updates too.

* Except for live coverage mind you which was excellent last year.

Compare the Antrim Championship coverage in the Irish News/Gaelic Life to say Down or Tyrone. It is tiny. I'm told it will increase from Quarter final stages but generally the coverage for group games is poor.

Have you seen the games covered live on Paric TV? Saffron Gael would be the only news reports that I'd look at tbf and they do this right down to juvenile levels league and Championship.. I'm confused as to what more coverage you are looking for tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 23, 2021, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Tbh I think the coverage is good. Mainly due to the saffron Gael and not the county board mind you but I get to read plenty. I would follow most clubs on Twitter and tend to get good live score updates too.

* Except for live coverage mind you which was excellent last year.

Compare the Antrim Championship coverage in the Irish News/Gaelic Life to say Down or Tyrone. It is tiny. I'm told it will increase from Quarter final stages but generally the coverage for group games is poor.

Have you seen the games covered live on Paric TV? Saffron Gael would be the only news reports that I'd look at tbf and they do this right down to juvenile levels league and Championship.. I'm confused as to what more coverage you are looking for tbh

Saffron Gael is excellent and do great work. My point is that the group games at all levels in Antrim are largely ignored by mainstream GAA media such as Irish News and GL. There has been some cracking games from what I hear but you have to look hard to find anything on them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 23, 2021, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2021, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Tbh I think the coverage is good. Mainly due to the saffron Gael and not the county board mind you but I get to read plenty. I would follow most clubs on Twitter and tend to get good live score updates too.

* Except for live coverage mind you which was excellent last year.

Compare the Antrim Championship coverage in the Irish News/Gaelic Life to say Down or Tyrone. It is tiny. I'm told it will increase from Quarter final stages but generally the coverage for group games is poor.

Have you seen the games covered live on Paric TV? Saffron Gael would be the only news reports that I'd look at tbf and they do this right down to juvenile levels league and Championship.. I'm confused as to what more coverage you are looking for tbh

Saffron Gael is excellent and do great work. My point is that the group games at all levels in Antrim are largely ignored by mainstream GAA media such as Irish News and GL. There has been some cracking games from what I hear but you have to look hard to find anything on them.
You mustn't of seen the Irish News today, big spread on the two championships Creggan left behind  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 23, 2021, 05:10:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 23, 2021, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2021, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2021, 10:52:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2021, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 22, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
The group stages are not really the problem. The problem is starting a competition in early August with 2 games in 4 days. Then large gaps between games with the quarter finals not even starting until end of October. Tickets are limited so we can't even go to matches yet and very few games are streamed. All pretty poor really. The coverage of games is also poor. Great games that you'd barely know are on.

If people want to change the system then you need to get your clubs to submit a motion.

Tbh I think the coverage is good. Mainly due to the saffron Gael and not the county board mind you but I get to read plenty. I would follow most clubs on Twitter and tend to get good live score updates too.

* Except for live coverage mind you which was excellent last year.

Compare the Antrim Championship coverage in the Irish News/Gaelic Life to say Down or Tyrone. It is tiny. I'm told it will increase from Quarter final stages but generally the coverage for group games is poor.

Have you seen the games covered live on Paric TV? Saffron Gael would be the only news reports that I'd look at tbf and they do this right down to juvenile levels league and Championship.. I'm confused as to what more coverage you are looking for tbh

Saffron Gael is excellent and do great work. My point is that the group games at all levels in Antrim are largely ignored by mainstream GAA media such as Irish News and GL. There has been some cracking games from what I hear but you have to look hard to find anything on them.
You mustn't of seen the Irish News today, big spread on the two championships Creggan left behind  ;)

The Irish News completely ignore all intermediate and junior leagues for the past while. It used to carry every result from each county on a Monday. No longer is that the case, which is a real shame
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on September 23, 2021, 05:40:41 PM
IMO most clubs in Antrim do a superb job of promoting their teams, be it through twitter, Facebook or Saffron Gael. Antrim County also provide a good service with their live games. If you are still waiting on the Irish news for the scores on a Monday morning I don't know how you are capable of posting on here.
And always remember, nothing beats being there!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 23, 2021, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 23, 2021, 05:40:41 PM
IMO most clubs in Antrim do a superb job of promoting their teams, be it through twitter, Facebook or Saffron Gael. Antrim County also provide a good service with their live games. If you are still waiting on the Irish news for the scores on a Monday morning I don't know how you are capable of posting on here.
And always remember, nothing beats being there!!
It was just a thing, to see how other clubs , in other counties were doing, at a glance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
I hopE u r all sitting down . Im seeing and hearing Gaelfast are out in loads of belfast primary schools these days which is great news. the new boss must be making a difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on September 27, 2021, 10:08:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
I hopE u r all sitting down . Im seeing and hearing Gaelfast are out in loads of belfast primary schools these days which is great news. the new boss must be making a difference

As they were pre covid.

I see they've a few posts to fill, anyone on here apply.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 27, 2021, 01:31:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
I hopE u r all sitting down . Im seeing and hearing Gaelfast are out in loads of belfast primary schools these days which is great news. the new boss must be making a difference

Is Belfast GAA still dying or is it alive again? Country teams still the dominate ones in all divisions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 28, 2021, 11:46:41 AM
Last winner from outside Belfast excluding Cargin achievements were Glenravel I believe. Since then Johnnies Rossa L dearg Sarsfields StPauls, Pearses St Teresa's & St Galls obviously.  Good history in Belfast for almost 60 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2021, 12:02:44 PM
It's cycles too. Hard to see outside Cargin this year but Creggan will be in the mix. I thought Cargin were going to drop off but I don't think so any more. I think Creggan will have dropped off before them.

I imagine st pauls will come again too and Rossa are definitely much stronger. Pretty much all the city clubs have the dual problem which the likes of Cargin or Portglenone don't have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on September 28, 2021, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2021, 12:02:44 PM
It's cycles too. Hard to see outside Cargin this year but Creggan will be in the mix. I thought Cargin were going to drop off but I don't think so any more. I think Creggan will have dropped off before them.

I imagine st pauls will come again too and Rossa are definitely much stronger. Pretty much all the city clubs have the dual problem which the likes of Cargin or Portglenone don't have.

Still expect Creggan to push this year missing Liam Quinn & Conor Small? Two of their main threats gone. Fintan Burke also not playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 28, 2021, 01:05:41 PM
Are all 3 injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 28, 2021, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 27, 2021, 01:31:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 24, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
I hopE u r all sitting down . Im seeing and hearing Gaelfast are out in loads of belfast primary schools these days which is great news. the new boss must be making a difference

Is Belfast GAA still dying or is it alive again? Country teams still the dominate ones in all divisions
Gaelfast is an effort to resurrect it and just glad to see feet on the ground more than befor . Made big impression at my grandsons school.
Belfast still miles behind country teams in numbers facilities finances
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on September 28, 2021, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 28, 2021, 01:05:41 PM
Are all 3 injured?

Quinn & Small both have knee injuries I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2021, 02:55:32 PM
I still think they're probably better than most except Cargin. Without them though I'd say would be tough to see them win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on September 28, 2021, 03:06:11 PM
a co.down man asked me this and found it hard to answer not having seen much of either ecxcepy in finals.

"who is better, creggan or lamh dearg"

Toss of a coin in my opinion.... up for debate!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on September 28, 2021, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on September 28, 2021, 03:06:11 PM
a co.down man asked me this and found it hard to answer not having seen much of either ecxcepy in finals.

I would say Creggan are better but I would always fancy Lamhs to beat them in championship!!

"who is better, creggan or lamh dearg"

Toss of a coin in my opinion.... up for debate!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2021, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 28, 2021, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on September 28, 2021, 03:06:11 PM
a co.down man asked me this and found it hard to answer not having seen much of either ecxcepy in finals.

I would say Creggan are better but I would always fancy Lamhs to beat them in championship!!

"who is better, creggan or lamh dearg"

Toss of a coin in my opinion.... up for debate!
R creggan like Mayo loads of good players loads of finals but choke on big day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2021, 04:38:22 PM
Or is it Cargin just find a way to grind out results? How many times have teams almost beaten them - but fell inches short.Theres been dozens of very close matches in recent years where a point or two made all the different over 60 or 80 minutes.

After this weekend we will know the last 8, and the fun starts all over again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 29, 2021, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 29, 2021, 04:38:22 PM
Or is it Cargin just find a way to grind out results? How many times have teams almost beaten them - but fell inches short.Theres been dozens of very close matches in recent years where a point or two made all the different over 60 or 80 minutes.

After this weekend we will know the last 8, and the fun starts all over again.

Isn't that what winning championships is about. Mayo had Dublin on the ropes twice and couldn't put them away. Kerry had them to a replay and couldn't either even when they had an extra man in the drawn game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 29, 2021, 08:28:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 29, 2021, 05:43:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2021, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 28, 2021, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on September 28, 2021, 03:06:11 PM
a co.down man asked me this and found it hard to answer not having seen much of either ecxcepy in finals.

I would say Creggan are better but I would always fancy Lamhs to beat them in championship!!

"who is better, creggan or lamh dearg"

Toss of a coin in my opinion.... up for debate!
R creggan like Mayo loads of good players loads of finals but choke on big day?
Is 2 finals loads?

Do you not think it was enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
Ok loads of good players, loads of paid managers Moran/Madden/McNultys loads of semi finals and 2 finals, thought it was 3, and stil nothing to show...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 08:45:14 AM
Christ on a bike I have just seen that Kickhams v GNM will not go ahead on Sunday, which means by the time Kickhams play their quarter final almost 2 months will have passed since their last game, this shows how much of a joke/shambles the group stages have been this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2021, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 08:45:14 AM
Christ on a bike I have just seen that Kickhams v GNM will not go ahead on Sunday, which means by the time Kickhams play their quarter final almost 2 months will have passed since their last game, this shows how much of a joke/shambles the group stages have been this year


Calm down ;), I'm sure Creggan will be playing top notch teams throughout the province as other clubs have been doing.

There plenty of last day wins required in all competitions this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 30, 2021, 08:59:11 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 08:45:14 AM
Christ on a bike I have just seen that Kickhams v GNM will not go ahead on Sunday, which means by the time Kickhams play their quarter final almost 2 months will have passed since their last game, this shows how much of a joke/shambles the group stages have been this year

Whys it not going ahead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 30, 2021, 09:18:20 AM
I don't know but I'll take a guess and say GNM aren't respecting the competition. as I say a guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 09:28:15 AM
Maybe the case MR2, however i think Rossa or St John's will benefit more from their competitive games as opposed to half hearted friendlies

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2021, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 08:45:14 AM
Christ on a bike I have just seen that Kickhams v GNM will not go ahead on Sunday, which means by the time Kickhams play their quarter final almost 2 months will have passed since their last game, this shows how much of a joke/shambles the group stages have been this year


Calm down ;), I'm sure Creggan will be playing top notch teams throughout the province as other clubs have been doing.

There plenty of last day wins required in all competitions this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 30, 2021, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 09:28:15 AM
Maybe the case MR2, however i think Rossa or St John's will benefit more from their competitive games as opposed to half hearted friendlies

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2021, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on September 30, 2021, 08:45:14 AM
Christ on a bike I have just seen that Kickhams v GNM will not go ahead on Sunday, which means by the time Kickhams play their quarter final almost 2 months will have passed since their last game, this shows how much of a joke/shambles the group stages have been this year

Calm down ;), I'm sure Creggan will be playing top notch teams throughout the province as other clubs have been doing.

There plenty of last day wins required in all competitions this weekend
The teams in 3 team groups were at a disadvantage IMO. The whole league system championship is not working, its way too dragged out. Should of instead played another round of league games with county players playing, then had a straight knockout championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 30, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 30, 2021, 09:18:20 AM
I don't know but I'll take a guess and say GNM aren't respecting the competition. as I say a guess.

Theres other clubs who are already out who could prob take a trimming this week but will still field, hate clubs not fielding in general never mind in championship. Back to straight knock out next year please, GNM worked their balls off to get to play SFC, any experience should be used
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 30, 2021, 11:51:27 AM
GNM are a terrific dual club at all levels. Really impressive as they do things the right way with little resource. Disappointing to hear that they are refusing to field, if that is in fact the case.
The group games are fine IMO just far too dragged out. I disagree with straight knock out, this will not help Antrim football or club footballers to stick around for one game.
A backdoor system like they have in Down is a good one. Bottom line Antrim Co. Board need to review this year and conclude that it has not been fair on anyone and a shake up is needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 02, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
just reading Irish NewS there and 2 good matches tomorow
St Johns / Cargin - if cargin rest players and st ohns throw everything at it it could be close
Aghag / Endas - winner in loser out - tight match and i hope those city boys dont try and rough up Aghag or we will never hear the end of it!
real championship matches at last
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 02, 2021, 04:39:40 PM
And what will Rossa do? Will they field at full strength and aim for a QF place, or settle for no injuries and a proper crack at Dunloy in the hurling final?

Mind you Moneyglass wont be a pushover in any event, especially at home with a few players back!

Casements and Ahoghill another tasty one, the loser can pack up till January.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 02, 2021, 07:12:16 PM
 With the lack of games cant see Cargin resting anybody
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 02, 2021, 09:55:44 PM
I think rossa will rest dual men
Johnnies played no hurlers against Moneyglass last day out
Both teams weighing up best options of silverware I imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 03, 2021, 09:34:13 AM
Well rossa won't win the football so may aswell throw everything at the hurling final, though Dunloy might fancy winning the intermediate football too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 03, 2021, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: breakingball on October 03, 2021, 09:34:13 AM
Well rossa won't win the football so may aswell throw everything at the hurling final, though Dunloy might fancy winning the intermediate football too

Hurling no.1 in Dunloy I think everyone can agree on that
Football a distant second and will be a bonus if they wn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 03, 2021, 03:57:22 PM
Good win today for Aghagallon despite not playing their best. Showed a lot of character to fight back and win by 2 in the end. Had the privilege of watching the best referee in the county in action today. Some shine off his head all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 03, 2021, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 02, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
just reading Irish NewS there and 2 good matches tomorow
St Johns / Cargin - if cargin rest players and st ohns throw everything at it it could be close
Aghag / Endas - winner in loser out - tight match and i hope those city boys dont try and rough up Aghag or we will never hear the end of it!
real championship matches at last
Awks ;D they did, throwing punches off the ball which the officials missed, again.
Didn't pay off for them in the end though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 03, 2021, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 03, 2021, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 02, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
just reading Irish NewS there and 2 good matches tomorow
St Johns / Cargin - if cargin rest players and st ohns throw everything at it it could be close
Aghag / Endas - winner in loser out - tight match and i hope those city boys dont try and rough up Aghag or we will never hear the end of it!
real championship matches at last
Awks ;D they did, throwing punches off the ball which the officials missed, again.
Didn't pay off for them in the end though.

I didn't see a whole pile of off the ball stuff. One incident in the second half and that was it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 03, 2021, 05:33:55 PM
Awful game of ball at Portglenone today, but job done. Big improvement needed for next day. Big Niall red whilst soft, he was silly, Ahoghill man did exact same thing seconds earlier. Poor from Ahoghill they persisted with high ball in that thankfully wasn't working.
Did Cargin field full strength?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 05:52:47 PM
Really interesting quarter finals...

Cargin v st galls - you would expect cargin to win but no love lost so you never know.
Creggan v St. John's - Creggan favourites
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - st brigid's maybe but hard to call.
Ld v portglenone. Ld favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 03, 2021, 07:09:47 PM
when r the matches? hopefully some doibles headers. watched LD match and it was crap sorry
£cargin still big favourites
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 07:14:11 PM
23rd and 24th of October. Very late. I dunno if Ulster is running but if it is I dunno how it will be run off anywhere near in time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 03, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 07:14:11 PM
23rd and 24th of October. Very late. I dunno if Ulster is running but if it is I dunno how it will be run off anywhere near in time.

The Donegal and Derry club champions will meet in the senior football opener on the weekend of 20-21 November.

All four quarter-finals  ( 5th Dec)will take place two weeks later with the semi-finals on the weekend before Christmas.(19th)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 03, 2021, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 03, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 07:14:11 PM
23rd and 24th of October. Very late. I dunno if Ulster is running but if it is I dunno how it will be run off anywhere near in time.

The Donegal and Derry club champions will meet in the senior football opener on the weekend of 20-21 November.

All four quarter-finals  ( 5th Dec)will take place two weeks later with the semi-finals on the weekend before Christmas.(19th)

Madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 08:03:30 PM
Well at least it lines up with ulster. Very late and harsh enough on club players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on October 03, 2021, 08:29:41 PM
Disgraceful really but clubs year after sit back and take it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 03, 2021, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2021, 08:03:30 PM
Well at least it lines up with ulster. Very late and harsh enough on club players.

As Jim says absolute fuckin madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 03, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 03, 2021, 07:09:47 PM
when r the matches? hopefully some doibles headers. watched LD match and it was crap sorry
£cargin still big favourites
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 03, 2021, 10:35:06 PM
Away fur wkend and didn't get to any games. Still think no way closer to seeing were teams are. Hard to read too much in2 Cargin defeat or Hannahstown low point victory. Looking at the saffron gael, it looks like the team Cargin had out wasn't full strength, missing Mick McCann and James Laverty, but they seem to be in the pictures of the game? Strange ...

Feel sorry for Creggan the farce of the group stage has left without games for near 2 months by knockout stage.

Cargin/Creggan should still get to final on one side,I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a dark horse get to final on the other side though. Agh, Brides & PG1 will all fancy there chances. Great to see for club football in general.

Not much ref bashing either which is good also, I see McKeown getting praises (rightly so) in few posts back even if he lets it go slightly too much, I think he could be best in ulster with little bit more use of cards ;D. Good debate and craic on this after champo is great to see. Into proper knock out football now and best of luck to all. Some cracking games in store
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2021, 08:55:27 AM
I think st johns will give creggan a tough game particularly with being out of the hurling. Wouldn't completely write them off.

Aghagallon st brigids definitely an interesting one too. The biggest underdogs are probably portglenone and st galls which you wouldn't have thought a few years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 04, 2021, 09:58:55 PM
I would go Cargin, All Saints and Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 05, 2021, 12:13:17 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 04, 2021, 09:58:55 PM
I would go Cargin, All Saints and Rasharkin

If I was a gambler thats the 3 teams I would be putting my £1 bet on to win. Good strong case for all 3  and I know it's stating the obvious the Cargin. Fancy the other two strongly actually in AS and Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 05, 2021, 01:28:36 PM
Cargin, All Saints (unless TNN catch them on the hop) and Comghalls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 05, 2021, 03:04:09 PM
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 10-12 points
Creggan v St. John's - Creggan by 8-9 points
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon by 3 points
Ld v portglenone. PG1 to cause a bit of a stir and win by 2 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on October 05, 2021, 03:14:34 PM
From what I have seen

Cargin
St Johns
St Brigids
Portglenone


Cargin to win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 05, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 05, 2021, 03:04:09 PM
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 10-12 points
Creggan v St. John's - Creggan by 8-9 points
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon by 3 points
Ld v portglenone. PG1 to cause a bit of a stir and win by 2 points
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 3 points, closer than people think
Creggan v St. John's - Cant call it, could be a replay. Creggan possibly to edge
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon to progress
Ld v portglenone. Ld to go through just about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 05, 2021, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 05, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 05, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 05, 2021, 03:04:09 PM
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 10-12 points
Creggan v St. John's - Creggan by 8-9 points
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon by 3 points
Ld v portglenone. PG1 to cause a bit of a stir and win by 2 points
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 3 points, closer than people think
Creggan v St. John's - Cant call it, could be a replay. Creggan possibly to edge
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon to progress
Ld v portglenone. Ld to go through just about.
Surely there are no replays? Christ the night!
My mistake only the final can go to a replay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 05, 2021, 06:35:41 PM
Cargin v st galls - cargin by 10
Creggan v st johns - Creggan by 4
St Brigids v Aghagallon - St Brigids by 1
Lamh dhearg v Portglenone - lamh dhearg by 4

Cargin beat Creggan
Lamh dhearg beat St Brigids

Cargin win final


Ballymena v Dunloy - Dunloy by 1
Randalstown v Sarsfields - Randalstown by 6

Dunloy win final


Antrim v Aggies - Antrim by 6
Rasharkin v Pearses - Rasharkin by 3

Rasharkin win final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Have aghagallon or st Brigid's been to a semi before? Big opportunity for both.

Can't see Dunloy winning intermediate. Really think ballymena too strong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 05, 2021, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 05, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 05, 2021, 03:04:09 PM
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 10-12 points
Creggan v St. John's - Creggan by 8-9 points
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon by 3 points
Ld v portglenone. PG1 to cause a bit of a stir and win by 2 points
Cargin v st galls - Cargin by 3 points, closer than people think
Creggan v St. John's - Cant call it, could be a replay. Creggan possibly to edge
Aghagallon - st Brigid's - Aghagallon to progress
Ld v portglenone. Ld to go through just about.

I think St Johns will pip our boys. The fact we haven't played a competitive match is soo long, a couple of injuries to key players, and that the hurlers will be going full speed to win the intermediate this year doe worry me for this years championship. Last year the hurlers were knocked out early and that helped the footballers. hoping I'm wrong but def worried
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 05, 2021, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 05, 2021, 07:30:44 PM
St Brigids have been in a final?
Maybe it was a semi final. St Galls beat them handy.
We beat them in semi final in casement years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2021, 08:25:45 PM
Ah I vaguely remember that. They will be a team who think they are on the up with significant underage successes. Be interesting to see the outcome of that game.

I also think St. John's are a massive banana skin for Creggan. I wouldn't be surprised to see St. John's win that one particularly with no hurling to distract them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 05, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2021, 08:25:45 PM
Ah I vaguely remember that. They will be a team who think they are on the up with significant underage successes. Be interesting to see the outcome of that game.

I also think St. John's are a massive banana skin for Creggan. I wouldn't be surprised to see St. John's win that one particularly with no hurling to distract them.
Have StBrigids really made much progress? One win against Ahoghill and one v Portglenone. Not for me, long way off yet.
Creggan will go through v St Johns but it will be a tough one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 06, 2021, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Have aghagallon or st Brigid's been to a semi before? Big opportunity for both.
Would have to agree, looking at Bmenas individuals they could be considered a senior team. Players like Stewart, McAleer, McVeigh, McCarry, Pizza, young Aidan can't remember surname, those guys and probably others would start in the majority of senior champ teams.
Can't see Dunloy winning intermediate. Really think ballymena too strong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 07, 2021, 09:32:12 AM
If dunloy win that Intermediate then TNN and Ballymena should hang their heads. Although Dunloy has a pool of talent as good as any of them, they dont even train throughout the course of the year. Last year they had 2 full football trainings before championship. I know St.Pauls, TNN and AS's are all dual clubs, but i think its fair to say Dunloy only care about hurling championships. TNN and AS's are paying managers to get them over the line so theyd be gutted not to do it this year with Moneyglass out of the equation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 07, 2021, 10:25:03 AM
Cargin v St.Galls - Cargin with a lot to spare.
Creggan v St.Johns - Creggan comfortably.
Aghagallon - St.Brigid's - Aghagallon comfortably.
Lamh Dearg v Portglenone - LD making a lot of their injuries which is nonsense, their key men are all fit. I think this is the game of the round and if McAleese is back I expect PG1 to shade it.

Venues are Dunsilly and St.Endas I hear. Not sure if they're fixed yet though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on October 07, 2021, 04:17:15 PM
Cargin v St.Galls - Cargin comfortably.

Creggan v St.Johns - Creggan comfortably.

Aghagallon - St. Brigid's - Potential to be a great game. Fancy St. Brigid's to shade it but could go either way.

Lamh Dhearg v Portglenone - Potential to be another great game. LD will be favourites due to the amount of men they have on the county panel this year, but PG1 have shown in recent years they are a hard team for anyone to beat in the KO stages. PG1 will be missing McAleese and McKeever so I expect LD to get the job done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 07, 2021, 06:27:32 PM
Casements haven't a snowballs chance of winning against LD without those two, their spiritual leaders.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 07, 2021, 07:52:19 PM
No doubt DK. I think the Casements players are seriously thinking of conceding the game, those two definitely will not be available. Is there a penalty I wonder for pulling out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 07, 2021, 09:46:13 PM
In fact I heard Casements have asked to be demoted to junior next year as they don't feel they have enough coming through, time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 07, 2021, 09:50:39 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 07, 2021, 09:46:13 PM
In fact I heard Casements have asked to be demoted to junior next year as they don't feel they have enough coming through, time will tell.

They couldn't do that, some teams that aren't good enough to win junior will have them up before the county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 07, 2021, 09:51:57 PM
The wagons have been circled. The Portglenone boys will have the Gaaboard printed out and stuck up on the dressing room wall come matchday 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 07, 2021, 10:52:37 PM
Some nonsense spouted on here about PG1 and obvs the naturally angry response from PG members.

With or without those two players, it will be very tight.. A proud club and a fantastically talented spirited team will stand up and be counted against Hannahstown as they have proved before over the years.

Although important not to get worked up one persons comment, plenty on here still tipping them to win. Beauty of opinions. FWIW

Cargin v St Galls- all pressure on Cargin and expect them to show why they'll be 4 in a row champs with a 6 point win

Aghagallon v Brides- Aghagallon by 2, have 2 much in the forward line with aggression and physicality to match.

Hannahstown v PG1 - I expect LD to wilt under pressure of expectation of winning against a "weakened"  PG1 team who will have 2 much pace and spirit to win by 1 or 2.

Creggan v Johnnies - could be feisty, 2 big physical teams . Creggan by 4. Better coached and disciplined compared to the West Belfast men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 08, 2021, 12:25:19 PM
My pennies worth;

Carging by 8
St.Johns after extra time
LD after extra time
Aghaghallon by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2021, 01:20:08 PM
Am I reading this wrong. One person slated PG! and plenty of other people predict they will win lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 08, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
Thats about it. What I said was they haven't a snowballs chance of beating LD without McAleese and McKeever playing. They can cope with one of them missing, but not both. It not really a bold prediction, was it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 08, 2021, 02:09:29 PM
I would go as far as to say McKeever not being on will be an advantage to PG1, he is a distraction which everything must be planned around and you know what flatters to deceive!! Build the team around the likes of young Scotchy and not McKeever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 08, 2021, 02:28:45 PM
Only having a laugh! Honestly if anyone has seen any of our championship games, (with the exception of first St Brigid's game) they would be predicting Lamh Dherg all day long. I will be going in hope not expectation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 08, 2021, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 08, 2021, 02:28:45 PM
Only having a laugh! Honestly if anyone has seen any of our championship games, (with the exception of first St Brigid's game) they would be predicting Lamh Dherg all day long. I will be going in hope not expectation.

Do I smell a touch of Cute Hoorism here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 08, 2021, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 08, 2021, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 08, 2021, 02:28:45 PM
Only having a laugh! Honestly if anyone has seen any of our championship games, (with the exception of first St Brigid's game) they would be predicting Lamh Dherg all day long. I will be going in hope not expectation.

Do I smell a touch of Cute Hoorism here?

None cuter than yourself Tyrdub, good to see you back after such a long absence  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:14:34 PM
Cargins all day long,and that's even with big Magill in nets,what I can't understand why they have took us to beechmount to play sarsfields,a bit unfair tbh, although it won't make any difference, we're on a mission to go to senior and stay in it as double winners and challenge for the senior championship in the next few years,we have been there or thereabouts in div 2 this last while,so we've made the breakthrough and intend not to stop,Mick's blue and whitearmy TNN abu

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:14:34 PM
Cargins all day long,and that's even with big Magill in nets,what I can't understand why they have took us to beechmount to play sarsfields,a bit unfair tbh, although it won't make any difference, we're on a mission to go to senior and stay in it as double winners and challenge for the senior championship in the next few years,we have been there or thereabouts in div 2 this last while,so we've made the breakthrough and intend not to stop,Mick's blue and whitearmy TNN abu
btw davitts is a great pitch, we've already played on it,but it ain't halfway that's all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 08, 2021, 05:53:39 PM
Scotchy has two sons playing, fine ballers too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 09, 2021, 01:28:01 AM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:14:34 PM
Cargins all day long,and that's even with big Magill in nets,what I can't understand why they have took us to beechmount to play sarsfields,a bit unfair tbh, although it won't make any difference, we're on a mission to go to senior and stay in it as double winners and challenge for the senior championship in the next few years,we have been there or thereabouts in div 2 this last while,so we've made the breakthrough and intend not to stop,Mick's blue and whitearmy TNN abu
btw davitts is a great pitch, we've already played on it,but it ain't halfway that's all

Will yous be OK with the 20 minute drive in to Belfasf? Or will players have Jetlag do ya reckon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 09, 2021, 01:28:01 AM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:14:34 PM
Cargins all day long,and that's even with big Magill in nets,what I can't understand why they have took us to beechmount to play sarsfields,a bit unfair tbh, although it won't make any difference, we're on a mission to go to senior and stay in it as double winners and challenge for the senior championship in the next few years,we have been there or thereabouts in div 2 this last while,so we've made the breakthrough and intend not to stop,Mick's blue and whitearmy TNN abu
btw davitts is a great pitch, we've already played on it,but it ain't halfway that's all

Will yous be OK with the 20 minute drive in to Belfasf? Or will players have Jetlag do ya reckon?

Templepatrick and Ballyclares pitches must be busy that day  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 09, 2021, 10:35:08 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 09, 2021, 01:28:01 AM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:14:34 PM
Cargins all day long,and that's even with big Magill in nets,what I can't understand why they have took us to beechmount to play sarsfields,a bit unfair tbh, although it won't make any difference, we're on a mission to go to senior and stay in it as double winners and challenge for the senior championship in the next few years,we have been there or thereabouts in div 2 this last while,so we've made the breakthrough and intend not to stop,Mick's blue and whitearmy TNN abu
btw davitts is a great pitch, we've already played on it,but it ain't halfway that's all

Will yous be OK with the 20 minute drive in to Belfasf? Or will players have Jetlag do ya reckon?
31 miles and with the price off fuel fs,but whatever obstacles that are it in the way, Mick's blue and white army will smash them down ps Easyjet booked out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 09, 2021, 04:57:41 PM
Would agree on mckeever to a certain extent, flatters to deceive alot and has discipline issues, however he has physical attributes that others don't, he is also one of their leaders and therefore pg1 will certainly miss his presence.

Doesn't matter where tnn play their semi final they will win. Get on with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 09, 2021, 05:51:57 PM
Few whispers at the hurling today that McKeever could be getting off on appeal? Would like to see all players available for the  spectacle but I think it would be another slap in face for referees. Like McCann getting off last year on word of the county chair the same ref would could feel he's not being backed as by all accounts it was a strike which he had a clear view. If that's the case surely no further evidence could be used to undermine refs further? The appeals process Always an interesting topic suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on October 09, 2021, 06:11:39 PM
You can't compare apples with oranges ,McCann got his card overturned last year because he never should have gotten it in the first place.If McKeever got his red for striking then it must be upheld.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2021, 06:27:06 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 09, 2021, 10:35:08 AM
Quote from: Gold on October 09, 2021, 01:28:01 AM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 08, 2021, 05:14:34 PM
Cargins all day long,and that's even with big Magill in nets,what I can't understand why they have took us to beechmount to play sarsfields,a bit unfair tbh, although it won't make any difference, we're on a mission to go to senior and stay in it as double winners and challenge for the senior championship in the next few years,we have been there or thereabouts in div 2 this last while,so we've made the breakthrough and intend not to stop,Mick's blue and whitearmy TNN abu
btw davitts is a great pitch, we've already played on it,but it ain't halfway that's all

Will yous be OK with the 20 minute drive in to Belfasf? Or will players have Jetlag do ya reckon?
31 miles and with the price off fuel fs,but whatever obstacles that are it in the way, Mick's blue and white army will smash them down ps Easyjet booked out

I remember my first beer also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 09, 2021, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on October 09, 2021, 06:11:39 PM
You can't compare apples with oranges ,McCann got his card overturned last year because he never should have gotten it in the first place.If McKeever got his red for striking then it must be upheld.
Diarmuid O'Connor punched a player fair in the face on live tv in an All Ireland semi-final and his red was rescinded for the replay.  From top to bottom the GAA is literally a joke when it comes to suspensions. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
He was silly but never a red.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 09, 2021, 07:36:56 PM
What actually happened in the McKeever incident, was it striking?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 07:41:46 PM
No when running out corner forward barged him, then another came at him, he raised his arm but didn't strike. If I'm being honest I think ref felt he got it wrong and was looking a chance to even it up but it never came.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2021, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: referee on October 09, 2021, 06:37:40 PM
You pissed PJ

I wish.😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 10, 2021, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 08, 2021, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 08, 2021, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 08, 2021, 02:28:45 PM
Only having a laugh! Honestly if anyone has seen any of our championship games, (with the exception of first St Brigid's game) they would be predicting Lamh Dherg all day long. I will be going in hope not expectation.

Do I smell a touch of Cute Hoorism here?

None cuter than yourself Tyrdub, good to see you back after such a long absence  ;)

Thanks lad, have to say I missed it and am enjoying every bit of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
Good win for aghagallon. Didn't see what the red card was for but I think aghagllon maybe just about deserved it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 10, 2021, 02:19:51 PM
Well done Aghagallon, first ever minor championship for the club. League and championship double, great achievement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2021, 03:00:04 PM
Superb achievement for Aghagallon. Another small parish punching way above its weight. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 10, 2021, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2021, 03:00:04 PM
Superb achievement for Aghagallon. Another small parish punching way above its
I am splitting hairs BS but I work with a guy from a neighbouring parish, its a big area with a large population. They are also doing serious work up there to get better.
Fully deserved title for Aghagallon defintely a coming force in Antrim football. Expect them to be in Antrims top 2-3 teams soon. Its inevitable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 10, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2021, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2021, 03:00:04 PM
Superb achievement for Aghagallon. Another small parish punching way above its
I am splitting hairs BS but I work with a guy from a neighbouring parish, its a big area with a large population. They are also doing serious work up there to get better.
Fully deserved title for Aghagallon defintely a coming force in Antrim football. Expect them to be in Antrims top 2-3 teams soon. Its inevitable.

Brilliant achievement by the lads today. Rewards all the great work being done over the years. In the terms of the population, we have about 250 primary school children and some go to Lurgan schools as well, so we are definitely getting bigger. The main advantage we have is our lads progress a lot when they start McCrory football with St. Ronan's. Between us and Clann Eireann we probably have had the most representatives on those school teams over the past 30 years. The challenge is now getting these lads through to senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2021, 04:34:58 PM
The numbers are higher than I thought, but it's all about the hard work that's going on. Aghagallon building a conveyor belt of talent there, where Gaelic football is central to the community. Definitely looking for a seat at Antrim's top table


It's been a long road back to that level for St Paul's, that should also be given credit. It won't happen without serious work at club juvenile level.That's where success is built, nowhere else. There are no short cuts to success!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 10, 2021, 07:23:50 PM
Two good teams. End to end.   Makes you wonder why the county minors were so  poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 10, 2021, 08:15:07 PM
Fair enough. St Paul's are starting to put it together at underage and Aghagallon have had a pipeline going for last 6 or 7 years.  Both will only be good for Antrim.  Sad to see big clubs like St John's playing with amalgamations at minor.  If all clubs were going strong it would count for something.  And as someone said earlier, need more players in the county playing MacRory.  I'd still love to see a combined Belfast Colleges team. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 10, 2021, 08:19:51 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2021, 07:23:50 PM
Two good teams. End to end.   Makes you wonder why the county minors were so  poor.

Dont like going in too hard on a volunteer, but they had a completely incompetent manager taking the Antrim minors. Out of his depth. Noticeable improvement incoming with Paul McErlane and Barry Burns taking over in 2022.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2021, 08:53:37 PM
Club under 8/10/12. If that's being well done the rest will follow...and don't rely on anything at school or county. If by some miracle that happens, that's a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 11, 2021, 10:26:23 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2021, 08:53:37 PM
Club under 8/10/12. If that's being well done the rest will follow...and don't rely on anything at school or county. If by some miracle that happens, that's a bonus.

Well said Bannside. The McRory cup theory is a red herring. Plenty of successful counties don't play in high level schools competitions. The work done in a players first 6-10 years of playing in his/her club is where it's at along with the quality of the coaching and the coaches and of course the family support. These are what make quality players, not the McRory Cup!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 11, 2021, 12:28:22 PM
Lads you're very dismissive.  MacRory Cup football further improves players, there's very little doubt about that.  Very few players in Antrim get the opportunity.  That can't be a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 11, 2021, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2021, 08:53:37 PM
Club under 8/10/12. If that's being well done the rest will follow...and don't rely on anything at school or county. If by some miracle that happens, that's a bonus.

It's all important and at that age you can get children interested and into the club. Good primary school football and regular games etc is vital. If children aren't playing games and not enjoying they tell soon quit and go find something else to do. However, in my opinion it's the schools football around the age of 15-18 that really elevates some players to the next level. They're playing with the best footballers around the local area and playing against some of the best players in Ulster on a regular basis. Some of those McCrory teams will have a better setup than most county minor teams and they're very difficult to get your place on the panel. Of course the club also needs to be doing their bit as well and providing good coaching on top of all this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 12:56:12 PM
Forget MacRory cups etc lads if we can't get the basics right from U10 on

if the quality in the final yesterday was reflective of the best in Antrim then the future is far from bright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 11, 2021, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 12:56:12 PM
Forget MacRory cups etc lads if we can't get the basics right from U10 on

if the quality in the final yesterday was reflective of the best in Antrim then the future is far from bright

If MAcRory Cup participation became a major target for Antrim, you don't focus on the MAcRory team at 16-18 age groups, it starts in first year in the school. It's a major effort to get a successful MacRory program up and running.

I went to Maghera,  from the very first PE class the teachers set out the ambition and standards that the school expected from the players in regards to football. We had a Maghera style and they started embedding that into the pupils.

The focus was not on winning at every year group, we went to win every match through the younger competitions but it wasn't the be all end all, but the approach and discipline and commitment was the primary focus.

MacRory was serious, at the expectations at this point was a minimum to get to the final, but we were driven to win.

Maghera also worked well with the local clubs, hosted primary school tournaments, teachers scouted local underage games making sure they hadn't missed a kid who is at the school.

It takes a serious effort to be successful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2021, 04:00:53 PM
I have absolutely zero confidence in our county to put anything in place that resembles a meaningful approach to games development at county level. I mean zero. There are far too many barriers, finance, lack of know how, apathy, and hurling delegates amongst a CC who genuinely have no interest in football success whatsoever.

I spent a dozen years or more on this journey between underage squads (under 15 - 21) county development committees and going to Ulster council backed coaching initiatives (coach the coaches) and watched every other county make some kind of a genuine attempt, but not us.

Go into your club and make it happen at underage level. The younger the better. I can see what's happening in my own club, it gives outstanding confidence in the future. I truly can see a dozen county stars of the future coming through a progressive pipeline of development. It truly does the heart good to see it in action. But it's no good three or four clubs doing it. We need 20 clubs really upping their game with regard to juveniles.

As I say, anything else is a bonus, but do not be hanging around waiting on it.

The great St Galls team of the naughties started with a few men like Liam Stewart and Sean Mc Gourty and a couple of dozen under tens. From there to Croke Park. That's the model folks. In Antrim everything else is pie in the sky.

That St Galls team, and Cargin who always pushed them close, would put a dozen points on what Im seeing atm. We need to start all over again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on October 11, 2021, 06:10:50 PM
But then you're part of the problem?? You are "the county." You're a club member in the county, you vote for club delegates, county delegates and you were actually part of the county underage set ups. Until we all change things and stop bitching we won't get anywhere together. Surely the young lads should benefit from games vs the best in other counties, training with the best in our county.

I do agree with one point tho, focus on club  underage and get it right. Kids are 11-12 and 14-15 by the time they hit secondary schools and then county teams. Sure if they've not had a proper foundation of coaching in place then what will one a week sessions in schools or county give them?

It would be great to see St Marys become a force in Gaelic Football, they have the staff etc there that could deliver, but are they willing too? What support do they need? Financially, facilities, fixtures? Would our club coaches allow it or would they complain about the young lad being out so many times with the school or make a young lad run about that evening again? Should Gaelfast look at it? Are they looking at it? But then again where does it work if it's not the teachers involved.

Clubs, Schools and county all need to support each other if we are to get anywhere, not telling people to have zero confidence in the other. I don't know who you are or your expertise in taking teams, but I fancy my chances with the lads who have qualifications in developing players and experience taking teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2021, 07:05:18 PM
Everyone knows our county development set up is a joke, it's embarrassing and it's been going on for decade after decade, and if enough Muppets think otherwise things will never change.

I don't think I've ever seen things worse, and that's some statement.

Current Coiste Baniste have made a move to create a director of football, that's a welcome start, but at the same time it would be good to know what Gearoids actual remit is. I'm definitely not holding my breath let's put it that way.

You haven't been round enough corners Ciall, I used to be wide eyed and put my trust in the system but the only thing it has delivered for Antrim Football in 50 years is underachievement. It gets to a point you get tired of the bullshit. We are nothing but a disgrace in national terms.

So....my point once again is.....clubs stand up and take your own responsibility.  Bring your own future stars through. At least that's something that most clubs can influence if they get a handful of like minded enthusiasts.

Maybe that way we can deliver a pool of 25 - 30 grade A players in the future.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 11, 2021, 08:22:05 PM
Bannside is usually the most optimistic man on here when it comes to Antrim so things must be bad. I remember a minor team that Bannside was part of who went to play Derry who turned up in a big Chambers bus with full tracksuits on, their own kitbags, proper kits and the lot. Antrim turned up and had plain yellow tops and the lads had to wear their own shorts. As a young lad it was disheartening seeing other teams being treated like elite footballers and Antrim's were an afterthought. Surely it's better now?
Gaelfast up in rhe air too ffs! I said it here before about Gaelfast, it would take 100 times the amount of money they received to change things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 11, 2021, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 12:56:12 PM
Forget MacRory cups etc lads if we can't get the basics right from U10 on

if the quality in the final yesterday was reflective of the best in Antrim then the future is far from bright

Even as an Aghagallon man I thought the quality was quite poor tbh. Although I didn't know if it was just because it was U17s, there seemed to be a lot of very small lads playing. The standard doesn't seem great at that age group in the county this year. Although we are worthy champions as we won both league and championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 09:07:17 PM
Wasn't clear from the steam what the hop was for but from what I know that ref is pretty 'technical' when it comes to the rules so God only knows! Don't think it was too long on the kick out, was the D clear?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 11, 2021, 09:20:12 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 09:07:17 PM
Wasn't clear from the steam what the hop was for but from what I know that ref is pretty 'technical' when it comes to the rules so God only knows! Don't think it was too long on the kick out, was the D clear?

It looked like the st pauls player walking closest to ref was on edge of the D and not the lad receiving the ball..
The throw up was pathetic as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2021, 09:23:49 PM
U boys are very negative!
Why football quarters not this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 09:39:43 PM
https://twitter.com/aontroimgaa/status/1447539622364553223?s=24

Ah yeah, fair enough rules are rules, if the ball had went long perhaps it would be let go, but going short may have been the kicker

Pathetic throw is right didn't get above head height


Quote from: delgany on October 11, 2021, 09:20:12 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 09:07:17 PM
Wasn't clear from the steam what the hop was for but from what I know that ref is pretty 'technical' when it comes to the rules so God only knows! Don't think it was too long on the kick out, was the D clear?

It looked like the st pauls player walking closest to ref was on edge of the D and not the lad receiving the ball..
The throw up was pathetic as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 12, 2021, 12:52:39 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 11, 2021, 09:07:17 PM
Wasn't clear from the steam what the hop was for but from what I know that ref is pretty 'technical' when it comes to the rules so God only knows! Don't think it was too long on the kick out, was the D clear?

I can't even deal

Wouldn't know if a ball was blown up or stuffed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 12, 2021, 10:40:36 AM
On the quality of the minor final people need to realise its U17 now not the previous U18 and you will get that younger, more inexperienced player than was there at U18 who will make more mistakes.
Two big calls in the game - the black and red with 20 to go was very harsh (unless there was some verbals but didn't look to be). The hop ball at the end also, yeah the trailing heel of the St Pauls player may have technically been in D as the keeper kicked but jesus were dealing with 14,15,16,17 year olds here, marginal calls like that don't need to be made IMO. But that's all they are, split decisions the man in the middle makes, from knowing the ref the game was still officiated in a fair manner and technically both calls could be justified in the rule book no doubt.
Macrory not the be all and end all, certainly helps develop a player to that higher standard. Our problem is as BS may have already stated not enough clubs producing good underage players or are putting any effort to get better. Go to Tyrone, Derry you could have 5 times as many clubs that Antrim have putting in the work at underage. So for every Portglenone, Cargin they will have 10 teams doing the same or Aghagllon and St Pauls there are ten in Tyrone doing the same. The sheer volume then leads to a higher standard. It really is as simple as that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2021, 06:50:58 PM
Jim Stynes, I recall well the Derry minor team arriving in the big new chambers coach. Walked into Casement like they were the All Ireland champions they turned out to be.

I managed Portglenone one year  (09) and I wanted a coach to take us to Toome to play Creggan. It took a strong argument to get the go ahead from club committee, but they consented for our players to travel together in luxury those 15 miles. When we arrived at the pitch in Toome our big Chambers coach reversed up side by side with Creggans Chambers coach. They travelled 4 miles lol.

We had all black warm up gear, Creggan had all white. Neither side was conceding a single inch!

Looking back it was probably money wasted because St Galls were in their absolute pomp at the time. The most we were going to win was a match, but pride is what inter parish championship is all about. It's what makes our games great!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 12, 2021, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 12, 2021, 06:50:58 PM
Jim Stynes, I recall well the Derry minor team arriving in the big new chambers coach. Walked into Casement like they were the All Ireland champions they turned out to be.

I managed Portglenone one year  (09) and I wanted a coach to take us to Toome to play Creggan. It took a strong argument to get the go ahead from club committee, but they consented for our players to travel together in luxury those 15 miles. When we arrived at the pitch in Toome our big Chambers coach reversed up side by side with Creggans Chambers coach. They travelled 4 miles lol.

We had all black warm up gear, Creggan had all white. Neither side was conceding a single inch!

Looking back it was probably money wasted because St Galls were in their absolute pomp at the time. The most we were going to win was a match, but pride is what inter parish championship is all about. It's what makes our games great!

It was also the same at the millennium games u16 tournament. We were the poor relation with no tracksuits and proper gear. We wore the free fruit of the loom yellow tops that the tournament organisers gave us. The weather was class so we cut the sleeves off the tops like Trevor Giles did around that time. By the end of the tournament all the teams did the same, trend setters lol. Great memories.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 13, 2021, 10:18:52 AM
Kitting players out in gear, booking them big buses, making things appear to be as professional as possible is all well and good but unless the same group have had the same approach applied to the footballing side of things. from juvenile right through to senior then no matter how big your bus, or how nice your tracksuit is.... ul be pissing into the wind.

Have heard this talk of Antrim feeling inferior because other neighbouring counties get treated better.... Yes they do get treated better and get more investment but off the back of putting in the hard work under age and developing their players. Antrim is inferior because their whole set up, coaching, county board is inferior compared to the rest of ulster. All they can bring to the table is solutions to short term problems. investing money in senior set ups whilst the underage get some young boys da taking county teams for 1 year or 2 until wee jimmy goes to the next age group. How many years has it went on....



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2021, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 13, 2021, 10:18:52 AM
Kitting players out in gear, booking them big buses, making things appear to be as professional as possible is all well and good but unless the same group have had the same approach applied to the footballing side of things. from juvenile right through to senior then no matter how big your bus, or how nice your tracksuit is.... ul be pissing into the wind.

Have heard this talk of Antrim feeling inferior because other neighbouring counties get treated better.... Yes they do get treated better and get more investment but off the back of putting in the hard work under age and developing their players. Antrim is inferior because their whole set up, coaching, county board is inferior compared to the rest of ulster. All they can bring to the table is solutions to short term problems. investing money in senior set ups whilst the underage get some young boys da taking county teams for 1 year or 2 until wee jimmy goes to the next age group. How many years has it went on....

Guys I'm not on defending CB's I have in the past been very vocal on issues, but take a nosey on to any of these other threads from other counties in Ulster and you'll get people complaining about county boards and various other topics you are hearing here.

While those counties have some success at various levels, nobody is really happy all the time, we could be a lot better but we are a dual county with stretched needs.. The hurlers have won through to Div1 the footballers have won through to div 3, this has been the way for years, so are we to blame every county board since the 50's or do we look at ourselves and say, "are we doing enough" having a pop a the CB is easy, especially behind the keyboard, and we have some fantastic servants of Antrim teams in the past on here.

Having great ideas is brilliant, seeing them through to reality is a lot harder. If you feel passionate enough to get them across then get involved at the levels needed to make a change
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 13, 2021, 11:21:54 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 13, 2021, 10:18:52 AM
Kitting players out in gear, booking them big buses, making things appear to be as professional as possible is all well and good but unless the same group have had the same approach applied to the footballing side of things. from juvenile right through to senior then no matter how big your bus, or how nice your tracksuit is.... ul be pissing into the wind.

Have heard this talk of Antrim feeling inferior because other neighbouring counties get treated better.... Yes they do get treated better and get more investment but off the back of putting in the hard work under age and developing their players. Antrim is inferior because their whole set up, coaching, county board is inferior compared to the rest of ulster. All they can bring to the table is solutions to short term problems. investing money in senior set ups whilst the underage get some young boys da taking county teams for 1 year or 2 until wee jimmy goes to the next age group. How many years has it went on....

Roger hits the nail on the head

The only bit you left out was
Jimmy's Da usually moves up the age groups with Jimmy and by the time it gets to Minor there have been that many drop outs that there is next to nothing left.

The template is there
Counties with small populations can make it work and break through
Monaghan
Roscommon
Offaly

Previous quite from RM
The truth is with the exception of a small number of clubs, is that around antrim the footballing culture just isnt there! il be lambasted for saying that but the proofs in the pudding.

We have clubs from time to time who get a good set of coaches together and make a burst but find it difficult to keep it going on a sustained basis.

As BS alluded to if more clubs get the early years sorted and can keep it going on a consistent basis it will produce better outcomes.

When the foundation is there we can worry about  the Chambers Coaches & The kit (There will be a queue to sponsor)


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2021, 11:51:27 AM
We go round in circles here every time this topic comes up. I've defended the "board" here as much as anyone, and been as optimistic or positive as possible, but sometime the time comes to put your hands up and say this is just stinking awful bad.

Do I honestly feel I will see an Antrim team playing Division Two football in the next ten years. No, I'm afraid I don't.

The standard of senior football is at an all time low. That's why there are 6 or 8 teams that can beat each other on any given day.

I've zero optimism for our county senior footballers atm. I've zero optimism for any Antrim school making a breakthrough. Belfast is a mess, traditional clubs can't even field a minor team, and Ireland's second largest city needs to take a good look at itself.

I can't see anything happening for years and years to be honest...unless a dozen clubs start their own revolution and take outright responsibility for bringing every potential grade A player safely through the system intact.

Every club should have its own gym and S/C programmes. It's the only way we can be certain of developing a pool of 25 good enough to play competitively at inter county level.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 13, 2021, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 13, 2021, 11:51:27 AM
We go round in circles here every time this topic comes up. I've defended the "board" here as much as anyone, and been as optimistic or positive as possible, but sometime the time comes to put your hands up and say this is just stinking awful bad.

Do I honestly feel I will see an Antrim team playing Division Two football in the next ten years. No, I'm afraid I don't.

The standard of senior football is at an all time low. That's why there are 6 or 8 teams that can beat each other on any given day.

I've zero optimism for our county senior footballers atm. I've zero optimism for any Antrim school making a breakthrough. Belfast is a mess, traditional clubs can't even field a minor team, and Ireland's second largest city needs to take a good look at itself.

I can't see anything happening for years and years to be honest...unless a dozen clubs start their own revolution and take outright responsibility for bringing every potential grade A player safely through the system intact.

Every club should have its own gym and S/C programmes. It's the only way we can be certain of developing a pool of 25 good enough to play competitively at inter county level.

Again, I agree with every word of this. Looking for quick fixes such as the McRory Cup is nonsense.

Dublin revolutionised Gaelic Football by putting coaches into clubs. Made it attractive and fun to play. Restructured clubs and put the emphasis on player numbers and good coaching. Yes it took money but this is how it'd done, through the clubs. It's just lazy to look for short cuts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2021, 01:03:08 PM
Take Dunloy hurlers as an example. Do Dunloy think they need to rely on schools or county development squads to make their players better. Not a chance.

They built their own facility, set up own centre of excellence, brought in own top rated S/C practitioners and most of al, treated their kids like kings from they were 6 years of age.

At no stage do they rely on a school or county led initiative to make THEIR players better.

That's the model right there as far as I can see!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 13, 2021, 01:24:44 PM
Lot of genuine gaels on here and men who want the best for antrim. im not having a go at anyone on the curent CB as it iv more faith in this board than i have in previous years. Im just stating the reality of the situation. I know MR2 likes the old "put your name forward if you think you could do better", (hes on his high horse because he does a bit of reffing) but I cut my clubs grass every 2nd week and help out with our committees fund raising and take underage trainings, thats my input to antrim football. I know im not the man for any of the jobs i am talking about, but thankfully for free speech im allowed to air my thoughts on here and will keep doing so. But everything that BS has stated on this topic i genuinely agree with and hes the most optimistic gael in antrim.

But lets all call a spade a spade, if business' in the county had any faith in our football set up we would have had state of the art facilities, investment in development, lots of sponsorship and we would still be playing in our county ground. We had a few holes in the bucket financially over the years and unfortunately the knock on effect has been that our juvenile and senior footballers havnt got the backing from the CB they needed to flourish...because the CB couldnt get financial backing from anywhere in the county aside from Creagh and a few others....

Tell me how our hurlers are far better equipped and set up... is the finances split or have they a completely different committee / budget?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2021, 01:41:31 PM
Totally agree CK with what you said about Dublin. It was by promoting proper in club coaching structures that brought the Dubs to a new level. As the saying goes, a rising tide lifts all boats.

I saw St Brigid's under 13s in action last night. A joy to watch, well coached, unselfish, five or six exceptionally tall physical lads for their age, and skill level of highest order for their age. I'd be sure there are several grade As there from what I saw, and those are not easily found.

It dosent need to be doom and gloom. If clubs take more responsibility and up their committment, the quality coming down the track will begin to get noticeably better.

That way schools and county squads can benefit in the knock on effect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2021, 02:03:48 PM
Roger, I often believed the hurlers got a better all round deal, but in recent years I'd say that isn't such an issue.

The money for all the necessary base level requirements are set aside for county senior hurlers and footballers. Neither Lenny nor Enda can point to any significant prevention of the tools or support the county board could offer. I think they are both on a level enough playing field as far as finance available for preparation goes.

The difference is that the hurlers got themselves very well organised. The Creagh family are all hurling daft and it's good that they are. Tony Shivers and others get actively involved because it's their passion. We can't fault that.

My view is that football people in our county deserve their lot. Not enough were prepared to stand up or say enough is enough.

You wait for the outcry, the big debate at County Committee, the rise up of club delegates, but time after time...nothing. Sometimes not even a conversation.... We learned to accept mediocrity long ago.

The only optimism I have left is when I see clubs starting to do things well. Where Gaelic Football is all that matters. Like in  Edendork or Trillick or Killyclougher or Pomeroy. Nothing there but a football pitch.

If we can drive that message home, and build in that all consuming passion and interest... then maybe the next generation can start to step out with confidence. Until then we may get used to it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 13, 2021, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 13, 2021, 01:03:08 PM
Take Dunloy hurlers as an example. Do Dunloy think they need to rely on schools or county development squads to make their players better. Not a chance.

They built their own facility, set up own centre of excellence, brought in own top rated S/C practitioners and most of al, treated their kids like kings from they were 6 years of age.

At no stage do they rely on a school or county led initiative to make THEIR players better.

That's the model right there as far as I can see!!
I'd be surprise if Dunloy didn't have a very supportive primary school helping getting the boys hurling and playing football. In belfast there are lots of diffferent sports pushed in schools but hopefully gaelfast will make a difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2021, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 13, 2021, 01:24:44 PM
Lot of genuine gaels on here and men who want the best for antrim. im not having a go at anyone on the curent CB as it iv more faith in this board than i have in previous years. Im just stating the reality of the situation. I know MR2 likes the old "put your name forward if you think you could do better", (hes on his high horse because he does a bit of reffing) but I cut my clubs grass every 2nd week and help out with our committees fund raising and take underage trainings, thats my input to antrim football. I know im not the man for any of the jobs i am talking about, but thankfully for free speech im allowed to air my thoughts on here and will keep doing so. But everything that BS has stated on this topic i genuinely agree with and hes the most optimistic gael in antrim.

But lets all call a spade a spade, if business' in the county had any faith in our football set up we would have had state of the art facilities, investment in development, lots of sponsorship and we would still be playing in our county ground. We had a few holes in the bucket financially over the years and unfortunately the knock on effect has been that our juvenile and senior footballers havnt got the backing from the CB they needed to flourish...because the CB couldnt get financial backing from anywhere in the county aside from Creagh and a few others....

Tell me how our hurlers are far better equipped and set up... is the finances split or have they a completely different committee / budget?

I've done more than ref'ing ... Managed juveniles for 6/7 years managed senior hurlers for many years and only got into ref'ing to keep interested, so spare me cutting the grass and helping with fundraising (buying a lotto ticket). If you are going to complain about it without trying to fix it that's fair enough, you'll not help matters doing what you are doing. Ref'ing won't help matters either

All I said was all these other counties you feel are doing it better are constantly getting hammered by people who probably don't know the first thing about what goes on at CB level, to be fair I've no idea nor interested in knowing as it sounds like hard work which if you listen to ones here unnoticed!

The county from what I can see will always struggle to get what's 'needed' because we have 2 codes requiring the same attention. Tyrone, Fermanagh, Cavan Monaghan Donegal pump all their resources into one sport, if we did the same we'd be in a better position
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 13, 2021, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 13, 2021, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 13, 2021, 01:03:08 PM
Take Dunloy hurlers as an example. Do Dunloy think they need to rely on schools or county development squads to make their players better. Not a chance.

They built their own facility, set up own centre of excellence, brought in own top rated S/C practitioners and most of al, treated their kids like kings from they were 6 years of age.

At no stage do they rely on a school or county led initiative to make THEIR players better.

That's the model right there as far as I can see!!
I'd be surprise if Dunloy didn't have a very supportive primary school helping getting the boys hurling and playing football. In belfast there are lots of diffferent sports pushed in schools but hopefully gaelfast will make a difference

Quite a large Dunloy rep in St Louis's recent Mageenan Cup campaigns. And C&P Ballycastle performance in Mageenan's and All Ireland has been emmence.

Lavey hurlers will talk about the importance St Pat's on their 90's team.

From a football point of view, every county in Ulster had a well run vocational and college school program for years. Talk to Fermanagh ones (with a smaller player base than Antrim, but who have consistently outperformed us during the past 50 years) how important St Michael's Enniskillen is to them about the development of their Players.

Any competition that provides the potential to compete against the best in Ulster and possibly Ireland should not be dismissed. So yes, lets get our clubs to improve the foundation, but you also need to look at elite player development and schools is vital in this regards.

Also, my two cents on clubs taking responsibility on improving their standards. I spent 5 years in England and got my Level 1 coaching badge in soccer. What amazed me was the England FA Level one wasn't just a development course that help you set up training sessions and basic coaching techniques, it was focused on the "England DNA".

The EFA established a program about 10 years ago where they set out how they wanted English players developed so that they England consistently produced technically and tactically proficient players. They established England principles in the coaching program.

The whole way through the training they focused on the Engalnd style and have embedded into every club, both grass roots and professional clubs. The young players they are developing now are the first to come through the program.

So it's not good enough that every club ups their game, Antrim need to make sure that every club is upping their game and coaching the kids in a consistent approach to produce players who play with the Antrim DNA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 13, 2021, 06:41:49 PM
Are we the only county in ulster without a McCrory cup representative?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 13, 2021, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 09, 2021, 05:51:57 PM
Few whispers at the hurling today that McKeever could be getting off on appeal? Would like to see all players available for the  spectacle but I think it would be another slap in face for referees. Like McCann getting off last year on word of the county chair the same ref would could feel he's not being backed as by all accounts it was a strike which he had a clear view. If that's the case surely no further evidence could be used to undermine refs further? The appeals process Always an interesting topic suppose


The whispers at the hurling turned out to be true? Another county star gets away with a strike  on appeal. I'm sure referees are sick and tired always put their hand up they get it wrong but must be difficult to accept when player still gets of with no clear evidence. You wonder why some continue to ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 13, 2021, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 13, 2021, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 09, 2021, 05:51:57 PM
Few whispers at the hurling today that McKeever could be getting off on appeal? Would like to see all players available for the  spectacle but I think it would be another slap in face for referees. Like McCann getting off last year on word of the county chair the same ref would could feel he's not being backed as by all accounts it was a strike which he had a clear view. If that's the case surely no further evidence could be used to undermine refs further? The appeals process Always an interesting topic suppose


The whispers at the hurling turned out to be true? Another county star gets away with a strike  on appeal. I'm sure referees are sick and tired always put their hand up they get it wrong but must be difficult to accept when player still gets of with no clear evidence. You wonder why some continue to ref
If McKeever is cleared its the correct decision from what I seen of the incident. No big conspiracy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 13, 2021, 08:28:08 PM
To be fair. I reckon the referees report would have assisted Niall. I genuinely think he flashed the red for whatever reason and then realised he made an error. Haven't heard any official news if it has been overturned btw. Still don't think lamh derg will be losing any sleep, particularly with Dermy still out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 13, 2021, 09:05:35 PM
No conspiracy theories lads  here just saying it feels like another slap in the face for referees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 13, 2021, 09:14:33 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 13, 2021, 09:05:35 PM
No conspiracy theories lads  here just saying it feels like another slap in the face for referees.
Dont see how any referee would take offence as it was never a red card, as with Mick McCanns last year. If people were being let off for punching people i would agree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 13, 2021, 09:21:42 PM
Understand your point EOC and if it is clear mistake from ref then they are first to put hands up in my experience.

Wonder if many un20 games go ahead this week? Worth a proper restructure of fixtures next year. Discussion for another night  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 13, 2021, 09:52:13 PM
On what grounds is McKeever appealing? It didn't happen?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 13, 2021, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 13, 2021, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 13, 2021, 01:03:08 PM
Take Dunloy hurlers as an example. Do Dunloy think they need to rely on schools or county development squads to make their players better. Not a chance.

They built their own facility, set up own centre of excellence, brought in own top rated S/C practitioners and most of al, treated their kids like kings from they were 6 years of age.

At no stage do they rely on a school or county led initiative to make THEIR players better.

That's the model right there as far as I can see!!
I'd be surprise if Dunloy didn't have a very supportive primary school helping getting the boys hurling and playing football. In belfast there are lots of diffferent sports pushed in schools but hopefully gaelfast will make a difference

Dunloy wouldn't be a great example, a club that was coming from a lot of success. Hurlings ingrained in the village and most of the families. Many of the current players fathers in Dunloy had Antrim championship medals coming out their ears. They weren't starting from zero.

From my own experience a club can be doing great things but if the kids at u-9 or u-10 are only training one hour a week for example and don't lift a hurl the rest of the week it's hard for them to reach their full potential.

Many families in clubs in Belfast don't have a Gaa background and don't push the kids (in a good way) and a lot of times it's just a passing fad and they don't stick at it. From what I have seen any parents that are involved in the club and have a background in Gaa the kids will stick at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 13, 2021, 10:22:51 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 13, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
Yes. And I doubt we will for a right few years to come.

And when you consider that we were drilled by 27 points in the U17 Ulster Championship Preliminary round, it shouldn't come as a massive surprise that we don't have a pile of players capable of competing at elite level schools' football.
Cargin, Moneyglass and Creggan lads regularly play for Maghera and Magherafelt.  Aghagallon lads will feature for St Ronan's.  We have plenty of lads capable of playing at that level, most just don't get the chance to push themselves to that level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2021, 11:00:37 PM
You don't just play Mc Rory. You need to be accepted into the competition on merit, so unless a school is consistent throughout the various age groups they will remain confined to B Grade competition. Antrim schools used to be fairly competitive at B Grade level but I don't think they have been for quite a while. Is there a C Grade? Maybe Antrim schools could have a competition on their own!

Sincere apologies in advance to those genuinely dedicated teachers who have or do continue to serve in this capacity..but very obviously there is a huge problem in this regard. A teacher won't change this...you need a dozen teachers stepping up, two or three with each year group. It's simply not happening atm.

Any teachers wish to confirm or refute? This is the way it looks from the outside looking in.

I'm telling you, it's all about the club. Get that right the rest will follow. If teachers thought they had a reasonable chance of success, a quality squad, then they may be more inclined to put their hand up. They shouldn't have to start explaining the basics. That should be in place before they come in the gate at secondary level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2021, 03:17:31 PM
I have absolutely no doubt that in the right hands a "steering group" could safely bring 25 players through the system and return them as individuals with the right credentials to play at the highest level. You'd be looking at guys now aged 11 to 15, maybe 16, three to five in each year group. This is an eight to ten year plan.

(Check Pat Culhane, how to turn Limerick into a hurling empire, on You Tube. The story goes back over ten years).

There's so many aspects involved. Identifying talent. Make sure that talent is nurtured accordingly across all the disciplines, physical mental technical etc.

As I say in the right hands because this is like drawing a masterpiece. Many could try... but only the most dedicated to the attention of detail analysis, follow up, support structure and measurement procedure will succeed.

Those young players are amongst us. Can we turn them into diamonds?

The new director of football has a task ahead of him.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on October 14, 2021, 04:59:10 PM
Did we ever find out any more about the new "Director of Football" role?

What's the remit? What was the selection process? What is the plan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2021, 06:38:32 PM
Zero, Zilch, Nada, Nil, Nothing! However we continue to watch this space with increasing interest. Surprising alright that public details are so non existent about such an important appointment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 14, 2021, 08:14:35 PM
Are you implying there is something cloak and dagger about this BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2021, 08:36:36 PM
Bs has your account been hacked??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2021, 08:51:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2021, 08:36:36 PM
Bs has your account been hacked??

I'm surprised as well. Antrim and has been in worse states and Bannside was always so optimistic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2021, 09:47:13 PM
No Points. I know enough about the situation to know it was well intentioned. I know some of the names that were to be approached, but didn't see Gearoid ending up with the head job. Now that he has it I wish him well....it won't be easy....but if he manages to make a tangible difference he will deserve all the credit he gets.

My account hasn't been hacked at all. I'm just seeing football at a low ebb, a very poor quality, compared to a decade ago. We aren't thriving at any level, club school or county. Something needs to change or we will be playing same record in ten years. The only place I trust enough for change to happen is within ambitious clubs. They need to waken up and take complete responsibility for their players development from A to Z. If a county development programme or school input adds a few % on the journey, that's a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2021, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 14, 2021, 09:47:13 PM
No Points. I know enough about the situation to know it was well intentioned. I know some of the names that were to be approached, but didn't see Gearoid ending up with the head job. Now that he has it I wish him well....it won't be easy....but if he manages to make a tangible difference he will deserve all the credit he gets.

My account hasn't been hacked at all. I'm just seeing football at a low ebb, a very poor quality, compared to a decade ago. We aren't thriving at any level, club school or county. Something needs to change or we will be playing same record in ten years. The only place I trust enough for change to happen is within ambitious clubs. They need to waken up and take complete responsibility for their players development from A to Z. If a county development programme or school input adds a few % on the journey, that's a bonus.

The footballers have just been promoted. How can you see it at a lower ebb than usual. Antrim have literally been one of the worst football counties in Ireland in recent times and now they're up to the 3rd and have a good management team in place for a change. Things definitely aren't perfect but I thought it was better than normal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 14, 2021, 10:31:47 PM
I'm prepared to hope for the rising tide lifts all boats approach. A successful senior team leads to more competitive clubs with players trying to get on panel or is this too simplistic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 15, 2021, 09:00:51 AM
Well RC will McKeever be lining out next week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 10:17:16 AM
Schools playing at high levels e.g mcrory is a massive boost to a lads development. Going to training after school is much easier than making a development panel and travelling round the counTy to train.
Back in the day Eddie McToal and Hugh Mcgettigan would be driven st marys on to competing in mcrory and the age groups below. maybe the current bunch of teachers don't have the same passion? they are volunteers like the other 99% of us in the Gaa so cant be too hard on them but i think committed teachers is what is missing in the schools not the talent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 11:51:50 AM
It may be quite a while until an Antrim school is playing Mc Rory. We all agree hypothetically it would be great, but until then it would be good to have 25 persons technically and physically developed in this age group across the county, never mind in one school. Let's win a few Mc Larnons first before talking about McRory.

Mc Rory is for schools who adopt Gaelic Football as their absolute main event outside of getting academic grades. As I said previously it would take a dozen dedicated teachers to deliver this standard, across 7 year groups.

That level of interest simply does not exist in Antrim schools....but for some reason it's as strong as ever in other Colleges across Ulster.

Feel free to disagree, especially if you're a teacher in this space with more of a finger on the pulse......I would absolutely love to be wrong on the matter!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2021, 12:59:51 PM
Has Antrim ever really been any different this past 50 years? People talk about the similarities between Dublin and Belfast but Dublin have always had a culture of winning All Ireland's. Antrim have always been crap. Maybe the interest is just not there. Even the hurlers have been crap. The odd big win but they've certainly not been a powerhouse hurling county. Maybe we should just shut up shop and focus on the soccer. Massive amounts of money and coaches being sent into schools and clubs from early on would be needed. That's not going to happen though, I can't see Croke Park giving that sort of money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:19:31 PM
Exactly 50 years since a great St Mary's team won Hogan Cup.

What's not impossible is to get half a dozen good men in any club to get together and start a movement that centres around providing the optimum in juvenile development. That is in your own hands. What happens elsewhere is outside your control.

If every club committed to doing this the default position would be schools and county development squads would consist of a much better standard of player than what they currently expect. Clubs need to lead the way.

Once again I refer you to the St Galls model. Ok not all...but a majority started in the Bog Meadows at under 8 under the direction of a handful of dedicated mentors.  Somebody started a "movement" there that went all the way to being the best club in the country.

They didn't just build good players, they built a mindset. That's equally important.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
Spoke to a secondary school teacher about this recently. He said the problem with schools in Antrim is they are too academic in their selection of teachers! Schools in Tyrone, Down, Derry unashamedly appoint County footballers to jobs as their status is high amongst young players, same in the South. Maghera had McNicholl and Lockhart to name a few, not the same appointments being made in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:51:15 PM
St Louis had a principal half a dozen years ago who was very keen to promote the GAA ethos and development a pathway to better things. He made an appointment based on a strong verbal committment to try to take GAA in the school to the next level. That didn't work out quite as expected.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
Spoke to a secondary school teacher about this recently. He said the problem with schools in Antrim is they are too academic in their selection of teachers! Schools in Tyrone, Down, Derry unashamedly appoint County footballers to jobs as their status is high amongst young players, same in the South. Maghera had McNicholl and Lockhart to name a few, not the same appointments being made in Antrim.
RC did we not have the Director of Football in a school close to you and a prominent coach from Down who I'm sure I saw on the sidelines with a St Colmans team in a McCrory final a few years back

I'm with BS on this one

Clubs sort themselves out and everything else flows.

St Galls are an example

Dunloy are another 30 years ago they didn't have a SHC now they have 15.

Started with a small group of guys getting together and deciding to do something progressive and proactive. The key thing is that they kept at it and when they dipped and had done there stint they had the drive and culture to take it to another level. The fruits of decisions made 10 - 15 years ago were there for all to see at the weekend. They have set a standard and on the hurling side there are a number of clubs who are taking up the challenge to compete

Not every club can be a Dunloy but there are some steps there that could be followed.
It has taken 40 odd years for them to get where they are from that initial group starting
They didn't look for schools, development squads etc. Of course they helped but they did it themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 01:58:28 PM
I agree it is down to the clubs, what I'm saying about teachers and schools is if you employ suitable candidates you have a better chance of success. If I recall correctly Gerald's period in Ballymena coincided with a degree of relative success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:51:15 PM
St Louis had a principal half a dozen years ago who was very keen to promote the GAA ethos and development a pathway to better things. He made an appointment based on a strong verbal committment to try to take GAA in the school to the next level. That didn't work out quite as expected.....
+1 would this explain the change from the most optimistic man on the board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:59:43 PM
Dunloy hurling the perfect example Flanker. 15 out of 30 SHC's. Amazing statistic.

From small acorns....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 01:58:28 PM
I agree it is down to the clubs, what I'm saying about teachers and schools is if you employ suitable candidates you have a better chance of success. If I recall correctly Gerald's period in Ballymena coincided with a degree of relative success.

??? on the football side. Must have missed that.... depends on your definition of "relative success" I guess
Would like to hear about it....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 02:13:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:59:43 PM
Dunloy hurling the perfect example Flanker. 15 out of 30 SHC's. Amazing statistic.

From small acorns....

You skipped the optimistic man question

Heard a bit about some of the inputs you are getting for the acorns down in PG1..... Patience and time but the only way to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 01:58:28 PM

On a wider GAA scale I would say relative success yes. In terms of participation and interest within the school. BTW this is information I've got from talking to others! What I do know is it has moved slowly away from a predominantly soccer school that it used to be!
I agree it is down to the clubs, what I'm saying about teachers and schools is if you employ suitable candidates you have a better chance of success. If I recall correctly Gerald's period in Ballymena coincided with a degree of relative success.

??? on the football side. Must have missed that.... depends on your definition of "relative success" I guess
Would like to hear about it....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 02:48:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:59:43 PM
Dunloy hurling the perfect example Flanker. 15 out of 30 SHC's. Amazing statistic.

From small acorns....
in Ulster its much easier to excel in Hurling not football - them boys all pay Mageean no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 15, 2021, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 02:48:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2021, 01:59:43 PM
Dunloy hurling the perfect example Flanker. 15 out of 30 SHC's. Amazing statistic.

From small acorns....
in Ulster its much easier to excel in Hurling not football - them boys all pay Mageean no doubt

how so?

When you talk about the success of Dunloy you need to mention they got to two AI club finals, really had SMB for the beating on a terrible day and were one of the top teams in Ireland and that's with them geographically isolated from the hurling hotbeds in Munster and Leinster.

There's not the same geographical issues in relation to football, FFS the current AI champions are an hours drive down the road.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 04:31:19 PM
I mean its much easier for a Belfast or Antrim school to do well in hurling than football as there isn't a massive amount of hurling outside Antrim and Down in Ulster Colleges - have you a chip on your hurl? ;D
harder for the school to knuckle down and train hard to be competitve in schools football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 15, 2021, 05:13:18 PM
What is the critical question we are trying to answer? Is it about improving the quality of club standards or is it about making the county teams really competitive again.

If its the county, we need to look at what successful counties are doing and create a competitive plan to challenge them at EVERY level. My mind boggles at the down playing of schools and colleges. It's been the corner stone for a lot of county's strategies for youth development. Every county in Ulster is already driving club standards in a systematic program, if we let the clubs work in isolation, in 10 years time we will still be in the same conversation. And if this Option B gets approved, It will be near impossible to break into the top table going forward

From the colleges point of view, couple of examples,
Tyrone -  St Pat's Dungannon, St Pats Armagh and Omagh's rise in the late 90's early 00's helped feed new young talent for Tyrone's All Irelands run,
Derry  -Maghera's influence on Derry's underage teams in the 80's leading to the All Ireland 1993 (something like 20 of the squad were ex pupils). The Derry hurling breakthrough, 8-10 of the starting line-up was ex Maghera (Slaughneil were a laughing stock at the time and CO McEldowney and the Cassidy's made names for themselves in the Mageenan)
Down - Abbey, Colmans

Hurling
Kilkenny - St Kieran's (the talk about the tradition of the school providing an endless supply of hurlers with All Ireland experience to the county minors for generations)
Clare - St. Flannan's, Ennis

If we want to look at club structures, with the focus on club improvements raising all standards, then you could start looking at Derry - in the past 30 years,
Senior Club All Ireland - 2 All Irelands with a further 3 finalists.
Ulster Senior -Derry clubs have won 10 ulster club titles (6 different clubs),  5 beaten finalists
Ulster Minor Club - In the St Paul completion,  17 wins - (9 different clubs) 5 beaten finalists

Then ask yourself, is the success at underage all down to the clubs themselves, or is there more to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 05:52:48 PM
Kickhams I haven't seen anybody downplaying how great it would be to have our schools being competitive in Grade A Ulster Colleges Football. The reality is....can you really see that happening, and if so how?

It hasn't happened for decades, how exactly do you see it happening now, when the dedication and energy needed to be competitive is higher than ever?

As I said previously, go win a couple of Grade Bs first.

Step back and look at the likes of St Pat's Maghera. Every year they get the cream of young talent from a dozen clubs including Lavey Bellaghy Slaughtneil Glen Ballinascreen Newbridge Castledawson Kilrea Dungiven plus others as well as from a few football families from Creggan Toome Portglenone Moneyglass etc.

Every one will have basic skills intact and go in with ambition of making their yeargroup squad. The biggest headache for teachers is who to leave out!

Now what part of that do you see happening in an Antrim school anytime soon?

I'd love it to happen, but sometimes you need to take a reality pill.

Let's build clubs up to far better standard and rising tide will lift all boats. Forget the pie in the sky stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 15, 2021, 06:52:08 PM
To be fair Bannside, several posters have been downplaying MacRory, calling it a "quick fix" etc.  All we're trying to say is it's a significant missing piece of the jigsaw.  Clubs knocking their pan in is essential also and always the foundation, but it has been weird seeing the comments here about MacRory - maybe it's a mindset.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
For Antrim schools to get to the standard that they would even be accepted into the Grade A competitions would be almost totally dictated by the quality of player that the surrounding clubs are sending in.

Which takes us back to where it all needs to start.....half a dozen feeder clubs getting on top of their juvenile development at club under 6 or 7 level.

I can't see us closing the gap any other way.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2021, 07:26:32 PM
Another case study. Around  early eighties Ballinderry Shamrocks got suspended from adult competition due to poor discipline. The entire club senior panel was detailed for a 2 years to get involved with their juveniles and rebuild club from bottom up.

The result was that a generation of Ballinderry footballers were kingpins of Derry and Ulster football, resulting in winning the All Ireland club title in 2002.

From a middling team with poor discipline to the best football team in Ireland. That's quite a journey.

The only thing that changed was the mindset. Reset and put the work in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
For Antrim schools to get to the standard that they would even be accepted into the Grade A competitions would be almost totally dictated by the quality of player that the surrounding clubs are sending in.

Which takes us back to where it all needs to start.....half a dozen feeder clubs getting on top of their juvenile development at club under 6 or 7 level.

I can't see us closing the gap any other way.

100% correct For anyone who has been on the juvenile circuit and has taken teams across the bann it is like day and night. The top Derry clubs wouldn't even take a friendly with the A teams in Antrim and if they did they would have there B team on before the first water break. The top Antrim teams would be lucky to win a game in Derry A juvenile  leagues. Antrim A is at best roughly equal to Derry B.  This is right down the age groups prior to any MacRory cup. The starting point would be to address the significant deficit in quality entering second level education. There is only one place this can be done. If you were in Dunloy @ 10am on a freezing cold Sunday morning in December you would see how it is done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 08:11:44 PM
Not so sure. I was at a primary school age blitz a few weeks ago where magherafelt brought their strongest to us, we also had naomh eanna and Randalstown. All the Antrim teams more than held their own, I know it might be isolated but still! I know we pulled one of our young teams out of go games and toured ulster playing strongest available and benefitted greatly. Find what works for your club and do it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 08:11:44 PM
Not so sure. I was at a primary school age blitz a few weeks ago where magherafelt brought their strongest to us, we also had naomh eanna and Randalstown. All the Antrim teams more than held their own, I know it might be isolated but still! I know we pulled one of our young teams out of go games and toured ulster playing strongest available and benefitted greatly. Find what works for your club and do it!

RC that is good to hear. In fairness my experiences would be just above primary school 12s,14s, 16's over a 10 - 15 year period. During that period the gap between Antrim & Derry juvenile teams was getting wider.... Hopefully that tide is turning and the gap closes

I did hear a few weeks back from a Rossa man that PG1 were competitive on the circuit. Have you not got a Magherafelt man putting input to the underage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2021, 08:49:55 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
For Antrim schools to get to the standard that they would even be accepted into the Grade A competitions would be almost totally dictated by the quality of player that the surrounding clubs are sending in.

Which takes us back to where it all needs to start.....half a dozen feeder clubs getting on top of their juvenile development at club under 6 or 7 level.

I can't see us closing the gap any other way.

100% correct For anyone who has been on the juvenile circuit and has taken teams across the bann it is like day and night. The top Derry clubs wouldn't even take a friendly with the A teams in Antrim and if they did they would have there B team on before the first water break. The top Antrim teams would be lucky to win a game in Derry A juvenile  leagues. Antrim A is at best roughly equal to Derry B.  This is right down the age groups prior to any MacRory cup. The starting point would be to address the significant deficit in quality entering second level education. There is only one place this can be done. If you were in Dunloy @ 10am on a freezing cold Sunday morning in December you would see how it is done

Aghagallon regularly beat the strong Armagh teams. We are invited to most the local competitions and we would always be considered to be one of the stronger underage teams and we are always one of the main representatives on the St. Ronan's teams. So unless the Derry underage are much better than Armagh I'm not sure I quite believe that. Apart from the odd exceptional team, the good Antrim teams would compete with the other counties good teams. It's just there are more good teams in the other counties. The Magheras and Magherafelts always have a good scattering of Antrim men on their teams too. One thing I do think is badly missing is a strong primary school competition. The Armagh primary school league is a lot better organised than the Antrim one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 08:11:44 PM
Not so sure. I was at a primary school age blitz a few weeks ago where magherafelt brought their strongest to us, we also had naomh eanna and Randalstown. All the Antrim teams more than held their own, I know it might be isolated but still! I know we pulled one of our young teams out of go games and toured ulster playing strongest available and benefitted greatly. Find what works for your club and do it!

RC that is good to hear. In fairness my experiences would be just above primary school 12s,14s, 16's over a 10 - 15 year period. During that period the gap between Antrim & Derry juvenile teams was getting wider.... Hopefully that tide is turning and the gap closes

I did hear a few weeks back from a Rossa man that PG1 were competitive on the circuit. Have you not got a Magherafelt man putting input to the underage?
That's the seniors
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 08:11:44 PM
Not so sure. I was at a primary school age blitz a few weeks ago where magherafelt brought their strongest to us, we also had naomh eanna and Randalstown. All the Antrim teams more than held their own, I know it might be isolated but still! I know we pulled one of our young teams out of go games and toured ulster playing strongest available and benefitted greatly. Find what works for your club and do it!

RC that is good to hear. In fairness my experiences would be just above primary school 12s,14s, 16's over a 10 - 15 year period. During that period the gap between Antrim & Derry juvenile teams was getting wider.... Hopefully that tide is turning and the gap closes

I did hear a few weeks back from a Rossa man that PG1 were competitive on the circuit. Have you not got a Magherafelt man putting input to the underage?
That's the seniors

Is there not another with input to the juvenile setup.

I was very impressed when I heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 09:05:18 PM
No comment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 15, 2021, 09:11:55 PM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 09:27:13 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 09:05:18 PM
No comment

Understand
Must say I was impressed
Like the thinking and initiative
We need more forward thinking and progressive steps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 15, 2021, 09:05:18 PM
No comment
surely you are not paying someone to take your juveniles?  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 15, 2021, 10:07:36 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 15, 2021, 09:11:55 PM
    From my perspective, there isn't a lot of difference below U-12 between Antrim and Derry. Quite a few of the Derry clubs have bigger catchment areas and more kids, but talent wise Antrim and Derry are quite similar.

    The talent gap widens after this, and this is where the schools come into play.

    In my first year, we had two PE classes per week, and these were nearly completely devoted to football. I had Big A as my teacher. so from Sept to Dec I had close to 20 training sessions during class time. The structure was the same, intense focus on picking the ball up fast and cleanly, high catching and foot passing, then a 20-30 min game. In my PE class, we had about 24 boys, and about 6 of us made the Mac Rory panel 5 years later. The biggest benefactors of this training were the local clubs as the rest of my class mates played club football, with Glen, Lavey, Bellaghy, Swatragh, Ballinasreen, Glenullin, Greenlough, Dungiven.

    This program developed de facto development squads for these clubs, where base talent was being developed not just the elite. This approach was run until we were in 3rd year.

    With this approach, if you had a weak age group in your club, your better players could still develop in line with the best in other clubs.

    If Antrim are serious, having committed schools to GAA is vital.

    PS, In my first year, St Mary's CBS beat Maghera in the final, and they had about 6 years of appearing in finals / semi finals, and we hated them, they were a big rival due to the hurling and MacRory.

    By the time I played MacRory, we routinely beat them by 10-15 points and they didn't even register with us. Something went wrong in the school and they haven't recovered since

    For me, a good plan for Antrim
    1 - A aligned campaign of official communication from clubs in school catchment areas to school boards and principles demanding better sporting programs for GAA.
    2- Advise kids in your club about schools who have good academics and sport programs.
    3- Antrim refocus the development squad program away from County development squads to club development program. Divide the clubs into groups and bring them together for development, e.g SW grups could be (Glenavy, Lisburn, Aghagallan) (Aldergrove, TNN, Antrim), (Creggan, Cargin, Moneyglass), (Ahoghill, Portglenone, Ballymena) (Rasharkin, Dunloy, Glenravel, Ballycastle)
    Focus on improving clubs in a program, and not just leaving it up to them and lift the entire standard

    End of the day, Antrim need to do something different than what we are, because if this Option B is approved, I can't see Antrim playing serious meaningful championship football at the top table again
    [/quote
    K CSC Can't comment 2 much as I didn't go to school in Derry. Not sure how long ago it was when you went to StPats. I think that has changed though. The base skills of Derry juvenile teams would be a good bit ahead of Antrim. All the basics are deeply engrained. In Antrim I think we try to run before we can walk and don't focus on the basics enough. Doing the simple things well deeply engrained takes you a long way and never leaves you. Not focusing on this causes huge problems and this is where the gaps become wider.
    There are some very prominent coaches in Derry who had significant input to the GAA coaching guidelines and documentation. They have been heavily involved in Ulster GAA coaching. They were/are coaching visionaries. They developed a wide group of coaches who put strong foundations into clubs. I think there coaching network at club level would be a good bit stronger than where Antrim are  Of course schools help to polish the dialmonds but they are starting with a good bit of quality to work with.

    I do like the idea of grouping clubs and giving quality coaching. There are plenty of 4G's and facility's if there was funding for a few good coaches to drive the concentration on basics. Kids will respond to good coaching. They can then get topped up by their clubs. This could be the place where future development squads come from. Let the coaches see who has got the basics, who is coachable, who wants to improve who has got the discipline
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2021, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 15, 2021, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 10:17:16 AM
Schools playing at high levels e.g mcrory is a massive boost to a lads development. Going to training after school is much easier than making a development panel and travelling round the counTy to train.
Back in the day Eddie McToal and Hugh Mcgettigan would be driven st marys on to competing in mcrory and the age groups below. maybe the current bunch of teachers don't have the same passion? they are volunteers like the other 99% of us in the Gaa so cant be too hard on them but i think committed teachers is what is missing in the schools not the talent
How long is it since St Mary's regularly competed in the MacRory Cup?
How long are those teachers retired?

Did they lose the passion & commitment?

Or perhaps the talent began to dry up. Perhaps the passion & commitment was lost by pupils rather than teachers. Perhaps staying behind at school to train isn't as easy for lad today as it was 20 years ago.

A 1,000%!!!  The commitment levels required by all (staff, players, parents) is not there, outside coaches would help drive it by better conditioning, but those competing regularly at Mcrory level are similar to the levels the boys train at schools rugby cup teams, Inst, Methody, and the rest, it's hard work, some kids ain't up to hard work, they'd rather go to the gym to look good and tell everyone on social media!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 16, 2021, 12:04:03 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 15, 2021, 09:00:51 AM
Well RC will McKeever be lining out next week?

A lot of angry referees in the county at the moment. Won't be surprised if sum jack it . County stars getting special treetment once again from the ccc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2021, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2021, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 15, 2021, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 15, 2021, 10:17:16 AM
Schools playing at high levels e.g mcrory is a massive boost to a lads development. Going to training after school is much easier than making a development panel and travelling round the counTy to train.
Back in the day Eddie McToal and Hugh Mcgettigan would be driven st marys on to competing in mcrory and the age groups below. maybe the current bunch of teachers don't have the same passion? they are volunteers like the other 99% of us in the Gaa so cant be too hard on them but i think committed teachers is what is missing in the schools not the talent
How long is it since St Mary's regularly competed in the MacRory Cup?
How long are those teachers retired?

Did they lose the passion & commitment?

Or perhaps the talent began to dry up. Perhaps the passion & commitment was lost by pupils rather than teachers. Perhaps staying behind at school to train isn't as easy for lad today as it was 20 years ago.

A 1,000%!!!  The commitment levels required by all (staff, players, parents) is not there, outside coaches would help drive it by better conditioning, but those competing regularly at Mcrory level are similar to the levels the boys train at schools rugby cup teams, Inst, Methody, and the rest, it's hard work, some kids ain't up to hard work, they'd rather go to the gym to look good and tell everyone on social media!!

It's a chicken egg thing though. What's the reward at the end of all this work? The reality is it is less prestigious to be an Antrim county footballer than say Tyrone or Armagh. Also in clubs it is the be all and end all to get to be a senior player. I don't think it is as much here.

How does that kind of stigma change?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 16, 2021, 01:46:01 PM
Sure a lot on here would retire 90% of them depending on their club results


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Quote from: Calm Down on October 15, 2021, 09:00:51 AM
Well RC will McKeever be lining out next week?

A lot of angry referees in the county at the moment. Won't be surprised if sum jack it . County stars getting special treetment once again from the ccc.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
Referees ref the match, after the final whistle that's that. Whatever comes from appeals is not the ref's concern tbh. I personally wouldn't get flustered over it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lotto on October 16, 2021, 03:54:44 PM
Irish News today

Long Kesh and Casement Park: The paths of the Adams family
     
Andy Watters
16 October, 2021 01:00

Gerry Adams was a keen footballer and hurler but political activism shaped his public life. Picture Mark Marlow
LONG days in Long Kesh. From sunrise to sunset the same bearded faces, the same barbed-wire fences. Caged-in, prisoners kicked their heels and thought of home and of ways to pass the time.

Gaelic Games were a welcome diversion for the "men behind the wire" and Gerry Adams was an eager participant in them.

He'd played hurling and football during his school days but by the time he reached his late teens in the late 1960s, his focus was fairly and squarely on the political activism that shaped his public life as leader of Sinn Fein.

Perhaps in different circumstances he would have made his name as a county player?

His son Gearóid doubts that: "He'd tell you he was a class hurler but I haven't seen much evidence of it," he says with a chuckle.

In 1973, Gerry Adams was arrested and interned at Long Kesh and after an unsuccessful escape attempt he was sentenced to a term of imprisonment.

It was packed with young men like him. Inter-cage football matches and cage-versus-cage games were organised and, for as long as they lasted, the players' minds escaped to playing fields from the Springfield Road to South Armagh.

"There were very lively football games between the different cages and I remember in Cage 11 we tried to get hurling sticks in but they wouldn't let us," Adams recalls.

"So a bunch of us led by a guy called Terry 'Cleaky' Clarke cut down the bits of wood around the huts and we made hurls. It was just boxwood and they broke very quickly but we made the point - we had one game of hurling behind the wire."

Several members of Antrim's 1969 All-Ireland-winning U21 team, including Liam Boyle (the captain) and Mickey Culbert, spent time in Long Kesh and, although the inmates were mostly from the six counties, there were men from Dublin, Limerick, Clare and other parts of the island there too.

"There was a huge interest in Gaelic Games and huge rivalry between the different counties when it came to the Ulster final and even between different clubs," says Adams.

Gerry Adams was a keen footballer and hurler but political activism shaped his public life. Picture Mark Marlow
"Most of the Hunger Strikers were accomplished players – Kevin Lynch most famously, he had captained the Derry minor hurling team - so there was a very lively interest in Gaelic sports; it was a way of passing the time.

"I played for all the school teams I went to. I started getting involved with the Republican movement around 1965-66 and then increasingly in 1967, '68 and '69. While I've always retained and interest in Gaelic Games, my own playing career was short but my proudest achievement is that I played in the St Mary's (Christian Brothers Grammar School) team and Aidan Hamill (Antrim U21 All-Ireland winner) was my captain.

"We all think we were better than we actually were, but my playing career, such as it was, gave way to political activism and all that went with it."

As the Troubles raged throughout the bloody years of the 1970s and '80s, the roots of the GAA clung to stony ground around the North. Facilities were poor, media coverage practically non-existent (apart from The Irish News) and the constant threat from the security forces and loyalist paramilitaries loomed large.

Jobs were scarce and young men left for London or Boston in their droves. Despite all of that, the games were played.

"One thing that struck me during the conflict was that the GAA kept going through it all," says Adams.

"Particularly in places like Belfast where things were very, very tough, people still diligently got the kids to the training and the matches and the myriad of tasks from washing the geansais to all the mentoring and fundraising.

"It's a beautiful representation of the volunteer spirit – that sense of the meitheal, good active citizens all helping each other. So the GAA is very much a part of the life of this nation and it fills me with great pride at whatever level it's played at but particularly when you see these outstanding displays of football or hurling or camogie."

ULSTER went from Down's third win in 1968 to 1991 (their fourth) without a Sam Maguire but the GAA in the six counties endured the Troubles and the Association has shaped the life of Gerry Adams's nearest and dearest.

His only son Gearóid was four and-a-half when he was released from the Maze and if his father's public life was shaped by his political beliefs, Gearóid's has been defined by GAA activism.

His mother Collette (nee McArdle) had played camogie for Antrim and, after coming through the ranks as a dual player with the St John's club, Gearóid also wore the saffron jersey - he didn't miss a game in 13 seasons with the Antrim senior footballers.

"Hank Lavery took Gearóid to a couple of training sessions with Rossa at Falls Park and then Gerry Begley and John Grego started a team in Ballymurphy, that's where I'm from, so my brother Paddy took him down and he's been a Johnnies man ever since," Gerry Adams explained.

Throughout his infancy, Gearóid had made weekly trips to visit his dad in Long Kesh. He has "vague recollections" of him coming home to Harrogate Street and the biggest change was that his name switched from 'Wee Gerry' to the Irish 'Gearóid'.

"Thank God that changed," he says with a smile.

"One day somebody rapped our door and asked: 'Is wee Gerry here?' He was told 'Wee Gerry doesn't live here anymore' and I was Gearóid after that."

He has "strong personal political beliefs" of his own but has never gone public with them and isn't going to start now. Was there ever an ambition to follow in his father's footsteps?

"No chance," he says.

"I'm supportive of what my da has done and what he continues to do but I'm not going to be on social media espousing this, that, or the other.

"It's no secret that a lot of my family were involved in politics or in the IRA. It's not something that we hide and throughout the conflict there was always either an Adams or, on my mum's side, a McArdle in jail. That was the same for a lot of families but for me sport always seemed to take priority."

As he grew up, his father grew in stature as a world famous political figure. As the leader of Sinn Fein and MP for West Belfast, he was loved by supporters and loathed by opponents. Of course, Gearóid was aware of his father's global profile – he only needed to turn on the news to confirm it even if his words were spoken by an actor which was the case for a six years during Margaret Thatcher's time as Prime Minister.

But he says "there was never any big deal made of it" when the front door closed in Harrogate Street.

"My da was as much infamous as he was famous," he says.

"He became an MP in 1983 and was vice-president of Sinn Fein when I was only 10. You'd be aware of it but living on the Falls Road in those days everybody just got on with their own business. "Harrogate Street was a very close community and everybody looked after each other in a time of turmoil so we just got on with stuff – you're talking about the 1970s and 1980s when times were tough.

"Everybody was busy and I was going through school and my da was getting into politics. It was never a big deal for me, he was always normal with me and he was always normal with my mates – they'd still all be close to him even after all these years.

"My biggest memories from my childhood are going away on holiday to Omeath and different parts of Ireland. He was a big walker and we walked plenty of beaches and did plenty of sight-seeing. It was all as normal as possible and it still is with my children.

"If we get an opportunity to go to Donegal he'll have them out for hours on the beach.

"They would be aware of who their granda is (as a public figure) but there still wouldn't be any big deal made about it and it's not as if we sit in the house and have political discussions – we talk more about hurling or football. I suppose he spends enough time talking about politics, he's happy to get a bit of relief, a bit of escapism.

"I think he probably would have become a teacher, or a lecturer (if the political situation hadn't taken him in a different direction) because he has that interest and knowledge of literature. But his situation changed and he left school at 16 after getting his 'O' Levels and took the path he took. I wouldn't say he was ever a career politician although he did a good job of it."

THE Adams family did their very best to live a 'normal' existence but that wasn't always possible. In 1984 Gerry Adams was hit three times when UDA gunmen riddled the car in which he was travelling in central Belfast. Adams was hit in the neck, shoulder and arm and was rushed to the Royal.

"I remember my uncle Paddy coming to St Finnian's and taking me out," says Gearóid.

"He was giving me some spiel about the Adams's being as hard as nails – he was preparing me for the news – and then he told me what had happened, that my da had got shot.

"At that age you're trying to fathom it but we went straight to the hospital and saw him and he was okay, he was talking away to me and obviously trying to give me comfort. My mum was there too and she was able to comfort me – me and my mum are very close because we were together for a long time on our own. I'm an only child so there was only the two of us for a long period.

"That was part and parcel of it – if you were from the Lower Falls, Lenadoon, Andytown... anywhere in west Belfast in the late '70s/early '80s. The house was raided four or five times a week and I can remember the Brits coming in, the RUC coming in... As a child that's what you were used to. I had a wee place where I had to stand because you didn't want them planting anything so you had a stand and keep an eye on them – this was when I was three or four, my dad wasn't even there.

"That was the case for a lot of houses in the area – a lot of people went through exactly the same experience. I have no monopoly on that because there were hundreds of people who went through it.

"I remember the Hunger Strikes in 1981 when the tension was palpable. You knew that something really massive was going on that was affecting the area and people in the area. And I can remember standing on Beechmount Avenue with my ma for 10 or 15 minutes one day while a gunfight went on between the IRA and the Brits.

"We waited until it was over and then we just walked on home!"

Many young people, from both sides of the political divide who grew up at that time and in that environment were drawn into the conflict. Gerry Adams had followed his father into the Republican movement but Gearóid chose a different path and from early days his ambition was to be a county player.

"It wasn't as if I was conscious of it, but GAA took over for me," he says.

"I went through school playing sport. I played a wee bit of basketball but I didn't really fit into the soccer because they played matches in areas where I wouldn't have been too safe - although I snuck to a few matches with school for a bit of craic.

"I had Sean McGourty (La Salle) to keep me in line and then on to the Ranch (St Mary's University College) for Sigerson and Ryan Cup and then I became a PE teacher, so everything has been based around sport.

"I wouldn't say it was an escape, maybe it was a refuge? It was where my priorities were and somewhere I just felt comfortable in, so the GAA has a big hold on me."

His kids play now and their granda likes nothing better than to cheer them on.

How far we've come since his Long Kesh days.


Part 2 on Monday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 16, 2021, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 16, 2021, 12:04:03 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 15, 2021, 09:00:51 AM
Well RC will McKeever be lining out next week?

A lot of angry referees in the county at the moment. Won't be surprised if sum jack it . County stars getting special treetment once again from the ccc.
One solution for them, dont send people off wrongly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 16, 2021, 08:47:38 PM
Never a truer word EOC, I have never considered the possibility of a referee getting a kick out of sending of a big name player 🤔 😳. However I will reiterate one last time, I really believe the ref knew as soon as he give niall a red he had made a mistake!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 16, 2021, 09:37:10 PM
Now lads that ref is the ref who will be doing the County Final this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 17, 2021, 02:23:46 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 16, 2021, 08:47:38 PM
Never a truer word EOC, I have never considered the possibility of a referee getting a kick out of sending of a big name player 🤔 😳. However I will reiterate one last time, I really believe the ref knew as soon as he give niall a red he had made a mistake!

agreed with this. Correct decision to overturn the red, but in real terms will matter little. LD have enough know how to get past PG1 with or without Mc keever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 17, 2021, 09:24:18 AM
Agreed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2021, 10:21:46 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 17, 2021, 09:24:18 AM
Agreed
r u paying an outsider to take your kids teams or is some1 just winding up? u have went quiet on that RC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 17, 2021, 10:31:58 AM
You're 100% right Stiffler. LD far too experienced and streetwise. Short odds on favourites and rightly so. We have Dermot missing and injury doubts over at least four other probable starters, we just can't get any consistency going this year at all. Anyone who has seen us recently will not disagree.

LD by six or eight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 17, 2021, 01:11:21 PM
If I was Portglenone I wouldn't even bother turning up. No point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 17, 2021, 01:36:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 17, 2021, 10:21:46 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 17, 2021, 09:24:18 AM


Not that I am aware of. No
Agreed
r u paying an outsider to take your kids teams or is some1 just winding up? u have went quiet on that RC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 17, 2021, 01:57:27 PM
Now that McKeever is available and Mc Aleese fit to start this is now a banana sink for LD. Casements with their spiritual leaders available won't have any fear of this game. Nothing to loose and everything to play for. Looking forward to it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on October 17, 2021, 09:10:59 PM
Ehh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 17, 2021, 09:15:58 PM
Watched the Leitrim final on the telly box  today and my god what a game of football! To be honest I was surprised at the standard, got me thinking if an Antrim game could be up to that standard and the answer is yes, however this appeared to have less of the hauling and dragging and off the ball stuff that our games have.
Thinking about it after, I was judging the game as it was Leitrim people think they can't play ball, that I am afraid is how people see Antrim football too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 17, 2021, 10:20:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 17, 2021, 09:15:58 PM
Watched the Leitrim final on the telly box  today and my god what a game of football! To be honest I was surprised at the standard, got me thinking if an Antrim game could be up to that standard and the answer is yes, however this appeared to have less of the hauling and dragging and off the ball stuff that our games have.
Thinking about it after, I was judging the game as it was Leitrim people think they can't play ball, that I am afraid is how people see Antrim football too.

Exactly, there's such snobbery against us, yet we're just as bad when its Leitrim etc.

Final and quality was class and 100mph. There are class footballers in all counties....we all know how to play sport.

Conditioning and 100mph fitness is key and moreso when you go up the gears...you can't carry 1 half out of shape boy or scrawny fella at top intercounty leve

As Is decision making under pressure and tackling. We see so many walk through the middle goals conceded and need to be more physical

But as for the original point....there are class footballers in all counties.....some just have more to pick from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2021, 08:04:49 AM
I watched the Balnamore v Mohill game too and enjoyed it, although there was a noticeable difference in standards between that and the two Derry QFs. Will take a helluva team to beat Glen in or outside Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2021, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 18, 2021, 08:04:49 AM
I watched the Balnamore v Mohill game too and enjoyed it, although there was a noticeable difference in standards between that and the two Derry QFs. Will take a helluva team to beat Glen in or outside Derry.
Glen looked the part Bannside but Swatragh were totally awful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 18, 2021, 09:42:51 AM
Watched Glen myself for the first time in about 10 years and agree they are a hell of a team. Though saying that if they were to get Slaughneil i just dont think it would be as open a game of football. Swatragh seemed very passive and very unlike a madden team who ususally are eye wateringly defensive. There wasnt a bad tackle in the game, and i thought with the size of men on that swatragh team they would try and impose themselves a bit more physically. But Glen looked in great condition


Also watched the Leitrim final and to be honest whilst it was a great spectical and open game, its hard to compare to anything within our own county as we really dont know the level they are at. Cargin v Creggan last year was as good a spectical as you'll see, and 3 or four years prior people were asking for their money back down in Ahoghill watching the same two teams. Id  be more interested to see how that team progresses in Connaught where you'll see how good the standard of Leitrim football really is v others.

Think it goes to show where Antrim football is at, when LD and Cargin has competed in Ulster in recent years....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 18, 2021, 10:44:27 AM
Best two games of championship football I have seen in Antrim were Cargin V St Galls semi-final a few years ago with Tomas Mc Canns screamer goal, thought it was an outstanding game and our game with Cargin in the final last year. Another classic.

Wouldn't put LD and Cargin in the same sentence in Ulster/ LD were stuffed, whilst Cargin were beaten by a few pts in all of their games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 18, 2021, 11:07:16 AM
Do we foresee any shocks the coming weekend?

Can St Galls up their game for one last throw? Don't think so, Cargin by 10

Will St John's put it up to Creggan? Perhaps and I think St John's by 1,nothing like games to get ready and our boys have not played in weeks

PG1 to get their season going? Can't call this one, depends how much aggression and intensity PG1 bring

Brides v Agahgallon- the two 'unfancied' teams- I fancy Aghagallon to be that wee bit more nasty and get the job done.

Sarsfields v Whitehill- Whitehill by 7
All Saints v Dunloy- Dunloy to make it by a point or 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 18, 2021, 11:13:03 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on July 08, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
St.Brigids gave a decent enough stab at it though still came up short against a much depleted Cargin side a week or two back and I dont expect much more from them in championship to what they've shown in the league. Rossa have the potential to cause an upset once the knockout stages arrive so that will be interesting. However, the form and condition of the lamh dhearg county men for me are what is going to make this battle very interesting this year. I see only Creggan alongside Cargin and the Lamhs getting anywhere near the big one, everyone else is streaks behind this season I'm afraid. Nothing new then  ::)  PG1 seem to have taken a backward step which is a shame as they looked like they were building a legitimate assault the last couple of seasons.

I seem to remember getting a fair amount of light digs over the PG1 comments from staunch PG1 men on here. Now they're in agreement with me it seems  :P

To be fair, PG1 have had horrible luck with injuries this year. Consistency and getting your best team out is the issue, not the quality within the club.

What are the predictions then for this weekends quarters? I'm going with Aghagallon (+4), Cargin (+5), LD (+5) and the Creggan (+1) (Johnnies to make it a real battle)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 18, 2021, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 18, 2021, 12:05:14 PM
Birdie by 2,cargin by 8,Johnnie's by 2,Pg1 by 2 after extra time, sarsfields by 2,Shams by 3,southwest double in junior
we'll beat sarsfields by 15 pts,ain't nothing in IFC get near our boys,Mick's blue and white army are on the march TNN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 18, 2021, 12:11:44 PM
Doesn't matter who we get in the final,yous heard it here first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 18, 2021, 02:02:13 PM
Christ Jacko what club are you really from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 18, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 18, 2021, 02:48:18 PM
I doubt jacko is on the wind up, would be very surprised if Tir Na Nog were to win the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 18, 2021, 02:59:31 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 18, 2021, 12:11:44 PM
Doesn't matter who we get in the final,yous heard it here first
I'm no wind up merchant,if you don't believe me,not my fault,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 18, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 18, 2021, 02:02:13 PM
Christ Jacko what club are you really from?
COYBIB-COYBIP and MU fan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 18, 2021, 06:35:49 PM
A lot of talk about football q/finals. My thoughts are :
PG1 are defo a club for the future. No luck with injuries this year but if rumours are correct and PG1 are paying Derry men to coach JUVENILES then they will surely sweep all before them in 2030. The price will be the underperforming kids who don't make the grade drifting away from CLG altogether. Heaven forbid I am truly astonished

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2021, 07:24:03 PM
I need to contest this BBWB on three levels. Firstly we are in a cship QF with a punchers chance on the day. LD will have one or two out for different reasons. If we lose we won't be blaming injuries.

Secondly, we are not paying anyone to coach juveniles. It's amazing the way that assertion grew legs just because no one came out to deny it.

Thirdly, all clubs (why isolate PG1 on the subject) start off with a broad base of juveniles and by the time they reach 16 - 20 there is a natural fall off, many develop other interests, many realise they just aren't going to make the cut when the fun juveniles have turns into more serious stuff at senior level.

That's in every club.... it's being going on for a century.

Finally, while there is fantastic work going on with our club juveniles I saw St Brigids under 13s last week and they looked superb. They are also exceptionally strong at U -15 too, easily winning SA final. So there's a conveyor belt under way there too that looks promising. And great to see.

We need a lot of clubs to step up the work going on at juvenile level. That's the only way we are going to raise the standard across the board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 19, 2021, 08:04:11 AM
I love the way BS plays down his clubs chances in the big games. definetely and element of tongue in cheek. PG1 will 100% fancy their chances no matter about form to date, even though they have been poor. i think this game could be similar to the LD Aghagallon game where the ref will need eyes on the back of his head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 09:00:12 AM
Not ideal that they have sent a relatively untested ref in terms of senior championship in that care Roger, further a ref who has done LD 3 times in the senior championship and was bullied on the line by them in the LD Aghagallon game!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 19, 2021, 09:00:25 AM
Inexperienced ref down for it to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2021, 09:32:20 AM
Come on Brendan, you well know an experienced ref is needed for this one! Raised eyebrows around here about this appointment.

How many people from each club are allowed on the sideline does anyone know? MR, you should.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 19, 2021, 09:39:30 AM
39 - pitch side.
30- players
7 non - players
2 club officials
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 19, 2021, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: delgany on October 19, 2021, 09:39:30 AM
39 - pitch side.
30- players
7 non - players
2 club officials
Del am i reading this right is that 39 in total per side
When it is laid out like that is it any wonder there are problems at games and referees can feel under pressure.

Outside of the 2*15 up to 48 others on the sidelines

Would an average dugout hold 8 adults
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 10:20:21 AM
Jeez Flanker I know Antrim GAA is daft but it aint that daft:

Total 30 players including those on the pitch
7 non players and 2 club officials = 39 per club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 19, 2021, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 10:20:21 AM
Jeez Flanker I know Antrim GAA is daft but it aint that daft:

Total 30 players including those on the pitch
7 non players and 2 club officials = 39 per club

CD 39 times 2 is 78
Take the 30 on the pitch leaves the 48

If they are all inside the wire are you not asking for trouble
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 10:35:29 AM
Fair enough my bad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 19, 2021, 11:05:50 AM
Was at an Ulster Minor game in July, the manager alone was allowed to stand in a designated area in front of his dugout. Everyone else had to stay in the dugout. If he wanted to speak to anyone else he went back to the dugout. Some teams here take the absolute piss on this issue but I blame our authorities for not clamping down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 19, 2021, 01:40:47 PM
Interesting ref choice for the PG1/LD game, if the players show him respect there won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2021, 01:48:16 PM
Irish News today - paid managers are good and club men are cr...ap ! what a lazy article and generalisation - journo needs has pay docked!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 19, 2021, 01:52:09 PM
Look it's the only way a young ref can get experience is by getting big games..... a couple of strong experienced linesmen and umpires can make his job a lot easier.

Put the madmen along the line back behind the line (not suggesting one club more than anyone else or this game more than any other) and if they don't behave, outside the wire all together. Set the tone early, give a quick warning, be consistent and he might get away with it.

The reality is players and management sometimes set out to "play" the referee and there's no doubt some clubs are better than it than others. Strong and decisive management should nip any of this nonsense in the bud. Experienced referees usually find a way of doing their job whilst maintaining respect of all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 19, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!

whats funny about it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
Goes to show the power of men like you RC, Totes must read this board

Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 19, 2021, 05:02:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 19, 2021, 01:48:16 PM
Irish News today - paid managers are good and club men are cr...ap ! what a lazy article and generalisation - journo needs has pay docked!!!!!!!!!!!1
Are you able to post it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 19, 2021, 06:59:28 PM
Creggan mingie bugger,£1.20 for the Irish news,just go and buy it,worse than a Cavan man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 07:46:12 PM
Couldn't agree more BS, however this will be the game with the most bite at the weekend, I would have thought maybe a swap with the refs doing the Aghagallon game and your game would make more sense and Conall still gets experience- however are the LD men concerned that they cannot bully Sean L as handy

Quote from: bannside on October 19, 2021, 01:52:09 PM
Look it's the only way a young ref can get experience is by getting big games..... a couple of strong experienced linesmen and umpires can make his job a lot easier.

Put the madmen along the line back behind the line (not suggesting one club more than anyone else or this game more than any other) and if they don't behave, outside the wire all together. Set the tone early, give a quick warning, be consistent and he might get away with it.

The reality is players and management sometimes set out to "play" the referee and there's no doubt some clubs are better than it than others. Strong and decisive management should nip any of this nonsense in the bud. Experienced referees usually find a way of doing their job whilst maintaining respect of all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 19, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM

What I'm saying is I am not surprised that after such an appalling performance he hasn't got another senior game. TBF I was talking to Ahoghill men about this and they agreed it was the worst performance they have seen in years.
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!

whats funny about it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: Calm Down
link=topic=21.msg2080994#msg2080994 date=1634656251
Goes to show the power of men like you RC, Totes must read this board
Yip McCavana has me on speed dial

Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 19, 2021, 10:37:39 PM
Must be how you boys got McKeever off

Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: Calm Down
link=topic=21.msg2080994#msg2080994 date=1634656251
Goes to show the power of men like you RC, Totes must read this board
Yip McCavana has me on speed dial

Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2021, 11:08:45 PM
The absolute state of these comments... embarrassing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 20, 2021, 08:28:17 AM
True. i wouldnt fancy reffing that to be fair. two clubs notorious for bad discipline / dark arts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 20, 2021, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Jack O on October 19, 2021, 06:59:28 PM
Creggan mingie bugger,£1.20 for the Irish news,just go and buy it,worse than a Cavan man

;D don't like giving my details out to the establishment  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 20, 2021, 08:24:12 PM
So it sounds like PG1 and LD are getting favourable treatment, Cargin did last year with McCann's red - is it just these 3?
Or is it just poor aghagallon who are getting rough end of stick? or are Aghagallon boys on this board just all ireland moaning champs  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 20, 2021, 08:33:12 PM
For what it's worth my acca in toals would be
Cargin
Creggan
Lamh Derg
Aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2021, 11:08:45 PM
The absolute state of these comments... embarrassing

Terrible. It's like a time warp, between ref bashing, managers getting paid and red cards that shouldn't of been, it's cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 20, 2021, 11:03:39 PM
Hearing Dunloy fancying doing a double,backing themselves £ big time,as I said,ours to lose TNN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 20, 2021, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: referee on October 20, 2021, 11:10:09 PM
If Cuchullains have their hurlers fit to play,they'll be too strong for All Saints and will fancy their chances off winning IFC, curious to know how you know they've bet on themselves to do so,Jackie the bookie
now that would be telling whistler guy  :P,let's say a big DOM told me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 21, 2021, 08:30:33 AM
I may have missed this - has Antrim declared how it will vote at Congress on Championship structure?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 21, 2021, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 21, 2021, 08:30:33 AM
I may have missed this - has Antrim declared how it will vote at Congress on Championship structure?
They willl vote how Stephen McGeehan tells them. I.e keep the status quo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 21, 2021, 09:11:56 AM
Comments are nothing short of a disgrace. Accusin so many different groups of bullying, coercion and almost coruption.

Am I slightly surprised to see the young lad get a knock game? Yes. He has the most experienced most umpire team around him tho.

To say he was bullied in a game he was linesman in is poor form on both the guy and the people who are over LD.

I went to check when he refereed two of their groups games. Lost to St.Endas and struggled to get over Aldergrove, the Crumlin men got two penalties in that game also? Sound like a man who can be easily bullied by a club?

Blaming PG as club on nonsense with how they got players off or certain refs havent got senior championship since .


Same old agendas at play. Embarrassing.

Good weekend ahead of football.

Cargin comfortable
Aghagallon in  tight game
PG in tight game
Creggan tight game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 21, 2021, 09:15:07 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 19, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM

What I'm saying is I am not surprised that after such an appalling performance he hasn't got another senior game. TBF I was talking to Ahoghill men about this and they agreed it was the worst performance they have seen in years.
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!

whats funny about it?

well in the few weeks since this game there hasn't been too many games to referee, but he has been on the line in 2 finals since, therefore the guy is doing a great job, which I totally agree with. He cant referee all the games but has still been involved in finals, which means he is one of the top referees around, kudos.

As for anyone else's opinion of him or his performance on any given day, I cant comment as I wasn't at the game. But always remember, there were probably quite a few players who probably had worse games than the referee. And most people at the game would be biased towards their own team and not really subjective.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 21, 2021, 09:22:40 AM
Dunloy win no Intermediate Championship, they are a hurling club, not a football club, might get to a final but thats it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2021, 09:22:48 AM
I actually went through and checked his games since the PG1 game and it may surprise RC to learn that he was out the next round in the Enda's v Aldergrove game, plus he did the minor A a week or two ago, but hey RC don't let the truth get in the way

In respect of Conall I wish him the best for Sunday I just thought the Brides game would have been a better settler for him in his first knock out game with Sean L having the experience to handle PG1 and LD

Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2021, 09:15:07 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 19, 2021, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM

What I'm saying is I am not surprised that after such an appalling performance he hasn't got another senior game. TBF I was talking to Ahoghill men about this and they agreed it was the worst performance they have seen in years.
Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!

whats funny about it?

well in the few weeks since this game there hasn't been too many games to referee, but he has been on the line in 2 finals since, therefore the guy is doing a great job, which I totally agree with. He cant referee all the games but has still been involved in finals, which means he is one of the top referees around, kudos.

As for anyone else's opinion of him or his performance on any given day, I cant comment as I wasn't at the game. But always remember, there were probably quite a few players who probably had worse games than the referee. And most people at the game would be biased towards their own team and not really subjective.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2021, 01:51:26 PM
If we have no refs we have no games, we all know that, and to be fair very few of us are brave enough to take it on, so credit where it's due, so we should be minimal and guarded in our assessment.

On the other side of the same coin you have a group of 30 - 40 people who are putting in a lot of time and effort who deserve at the very least good quality and consistent refereeing.

Really looking forward to seeing all four games, now the gloves are off this is one of the best weekends of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 21, 2021, 03:43:10 PM
I stand corrected!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 21, 2021, 06:02:23 PM
I'm going:
Cargin - they must have aspirations to do well in Ulster, not just win the County.
LD
St Brigid's
St John's - long lay off for Creggan would hurt any team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2021, 06:18:31 PM
Anyone aware of the dates for the semi finals? I assume Sunday is finish on the day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 21, 2021, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2021, 06:18:31 PM
Anyone aware of the dates for the semi finals? I assume Sunday is finish on the day?

31st August
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 21, 2021, 08:32:21 PM
I assume you mean October Del?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 21, 2021, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 21, 2021, 08:32:21 PM
I assume you mean October Del?
Yes indeed , 31st Oct , final on 14th Nov .
Heads gone !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 21, 2021, 10:21:04 PM
This season is clean mad
7 weeks to run off 3 series of games after the group stages
I know its a dual county but......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 21, 2021, 10:26:58 PM
Not played last week cos that was set aside for hurling replay. Far too drawn out, however I know players are split on how they see it, some love it, the workers, gives them something to do in evenings, keeps them busy. Then you have the students.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 22, 2021, 03:50:00 PM
Bookies will be trembling at this quad....
St Johns
£argin
LD after xtra time
Aghagallon - if they dont get anyone put off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 22, 2021, 03:56:13 PM
For once Belfast GAA man I think you may not be too far away with that prediction
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 22, 2021, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 22, 2021, 03:50:00 PM
Bookies will be trembling at this quad....
St Johns
£argin
LD after xtra time
Aghagallon - if they dont get anyone put off

£argin?  What are you on pal? Have a word with yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 06:28:54 PM
A club is entitled to spend their money how they please! I'm no Cargin lover, far from it but they have seen success from their investment. They have paid a good manager, unlike some 🤔. Cargin do plenty of fundraising and have wealthy business men in the area so it's their perogative what they do. Similarly I have no problem with Creagh employing Dunloy hurlers, it prevents emigration and boosts their club and community.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 08:40:58 PM
Wise up and smell the daisies!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 08:51:14 PM
That's just shit stirring although I'm sure some in our county have done it. I have a gripe with my own club paying good money for bad managers, when good managers in the club would have done it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 08:54:40 PM
It's not shit stirring. It's merely pointing out the hypocrisy that drips out of people who are happy for the amateur ethos of the GAA to be undermined.

Tell me your club?

If it is ok to pay a manager, it is ok to pay a full back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:03:55 PM
Never had a paid outside manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2021, 09:07:09 PM
His opinion is he doesn't believe in paying outside management... if your club doesn't or does it's not his opinion I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 22, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
So to be clear RC you are not happy with your current management, what he is being paid and feel there are better in the club! Fair play big chat


Quote from: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 08:51:14 PM
That's just shit stirring although I'm sure some in our county have done it. I have a gripe with my own club paying good money for bad managers, when good managers in the club would have done it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:13:32 PM
Exactly, long story short if a club has money and spends it on a good manager and is successful fair play to them. It is the clubs (like mine ) who continually throw money at mediocre outside managers when you'd better off with a mediocre club man!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
Aye yer man from Cork was a decent hurler
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:28:57 PM
Not at all it's just a flawed argument you have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2021, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 09:27:21 PM
Very good but it's a joke that he's allowed to play for Rossa. If he wants to play hurling he should be made to go back to his own club...... :-\

No he should've just sat on his arse and had the craic!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2021, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 09:30:18 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:28:57 PM
Not at all it's just a flawed argument you have
WTF?

You've been paying players from Cork?  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:32:45 PM
My point is that If you name me a club in Antrim no Ireland that hasn't offered an incentive to manager or player then I'd be shocked!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2021, 09:36:51 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:32:45 PM
My point is that If you name me a club in Antrim no Ireland that hasn't offered an incentive to manager or player then I'd be shocked!

Spill the beans!!! What are Rossa paying this guy? I wanna know, what incentive? Playing hurling and not traveling 300 miles to do it for his own club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 09:41:00 PM
And if they were paying him 15 grand, would that be a problem?

Jesus wept that's my point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 22, 2021, 09:52:12 PM
Do Dunloy not pay a strength and conditioning coach for the whole club? If they can afford it then fair played to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 09:49:32 PM
What is your point again? I'm dumb. I'll need this spelled out for me, in its entirety.

If a club  have money they can spend it as they choose. End of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 10:03:06 PM
Ffs good night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2021, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 09:49:32 PM
What is your point again? I'm dumb. I'll need this spelled out for me, in its entirety.

If a club  have money they can spend it as they choose. End of

They should only spend it within the rules though? Again your club can does what it wants, god knows I know only too we'll, but it doesn't make it right?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 10:16:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2021, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 22, 2021, 09:55:24 PM

Listen if we could beat ld by a point and the winning score was kicked by a loyalist band player that we signed from moss side I wouldn't care as long as he was living in the parish  :)
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 22, 2021, 09:49:32 PM
What is your point again? I'm dumb. I'll need this spelled out for me, in its entirety.

If a club  have money they can spend it as they choose. End of

They should only spend it within the rules though? Again your club can does what it wants, god knows I know only too we'll, but it doesn't make it right?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 22, 2021, 10:30:51 PM
What way does it work with people from Croke park getting paid or people in admin roles? Is it only managers and players that are amateurs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2021, 08:48:39 AM
CLG has changed since that day in Thurles in 1884 when the idea that a national body of volunteers would organise sporting clubs in every parish to promote the ideals of Irish culture and sport and of course prepare their manhood in a state of fitness (and readiness).

That voluntary ethos served the association so well, for so long and became the absolute bedrock that built our games that are now enjoyed throughout the world.

The die was cast when it was decided to pay several tiers of officialdom. That's where payment was first introduced. County secretary's to begin with (no problem there, the association needed a network of people to make sure their was professionalism and consistency throughout) and then dozens of provincial and national positions, CEOs Marketing, Games Development Officers, etc etc. Another rung of employees was created.

Now with hundreds being paid within the association it didn't take long for GPA to say that their players body needed reimbursed too. The mileage expense lark was created.

Officials everywhere claimed they were chalking up the miles too, so they awarded themselves the optimum amount...think it's 85p a mile.

The dry rot had kicked in and because the officials were creaming off the top no one had an interest in pursuing a road block to clubs paying managers. Plus, how could it be policed if much of the actual payments are met by third party businessmen.

It's a quagmire. There are payments on certain levels being seen as acceptable, yet eyebrows are being raised at payment for outside coaching. Whilst this space is deliberately being vacated as a grey area, there really is no right or wrong answer. My argument is that if it's tolerated by GAA officialdom, or if they do not come out publicly and lambast the practice, then clubs will do what suits them best depending on their circumstances.

Given the choice of shiting or getting off the pot, CLG have chosen the latter, therefore the vacuum exists for misunderstanding of this type.

(Ps, I heard the figure one club are paying for their management team, not far from here = very scary).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
It should be fairly acknowledged that the majority of officials working at county level do not claim mileage expenses.

Yes Duine, where will it end. Until CLG come out with a clear position on the matter the situation will continue to escalate into who has the biggest chequebook or fattest sponsor.

The club I talk of near here has dozens of wealthy millionaire members, many fanatical. They have almost everything they desire (within reason lol) except a senior championship. They will move heaven and earth to remove that statistic if they can, and atm are moving well in that regard.

It sets the bar higher even higher for the next club, especially if successful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 23, 2021, 09:46:34 AM
It's a fair walk from portglenone to Maghera.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 23, 2021, 10:21:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
It should be fairly acknowledged that the majority of officials working at county level do not claim mileage expenses.

Yes Duine, where will it end. Until CLG come out with a clear position on the matter the situation will continue to escalate into who has the biggest chequebook or fattest sponsor.

The club I talk of near here has dozens of wealthy millionaire members, many fanatical. They have almost everything they desire (within reason lol) except a senior championship. They will move heaven and earth to remove that statistic if they can, and atm are moving well in that regard.

It sets the bar higher even higher for the next club, especially if successful.
Yes majority of officials are volunteers there for the right reason but I have been told the switch to online ticket purchasing as a result of covid has seen a massive increase on match day income for Antrim. No more cash at the gate and rightly so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2021, 12:44:48 PM
Roger is on the ball. If you look out your back window Roger you can see the Sperrin mountains behind it lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 23, 2021, 04:39:16 PM
You'd have to fancy your passage to the final now RC only have to beat St Mary's in the semis! Wee buns to PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 23, 2021, 04:47:19 PM
Good win for Aghagallon today. Was close enough for most of the game but I thought St. Brigid's gave up very easily in the second half. We just seemed to have an extra gear in us when it mattered. A semi final to look forward to now. Brilliant opportunity for the parish!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2021, 06:04:38 PM
Indeed. Sad to see genuine legends of Antrim football slip away into mediocrity in front of our eyes. Best to slip off into retirement with dignity and allow the process to reboot. Sadly, we will never see their likes again, a club who genuinely expected to win provincial and national titles.

Cargin going to be around for a long time, their conveyor belt well and truly in place to face into the future with confidence. They set the standard for others to match as a club for not this year, but every year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 23, 2021, 06:55:21 PM
St Galls a shadow of their former selves. They could be in trouble once those 6 or 7 older boys step aside.

Makes you wonder why they haven't tried to bring through the youth over the past 2 years, especially with no relegation  in the league.

How we see tomorrow games going?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 23, 2021, 07:02:27 PM
Calm down.
I can only assume you are taking the p...
1. You have shown total disrespect to an excellent Aghagallon side.
2. You obviously haven't seen us this year. Genuinely if we were in the semi finals of the intermediate championship this year, I don't think we would win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 23, 2021, 07:11:29 PM
Sad to see St Galls falling from grace but it happens every club. They've been the standard for years and fair play to them.

On the subject of paid managers, my own club pay outsiders in both hurling and football. We simply don't have the appetite from clubmen or women to take the reigns of the senior teams. They aren't paid a fortune but they get paid a few quid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 23, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 22, 2021, 03:50:00 PM
Bookies will be trembling at this quad....
St Johns
£argin
LD after xtra time
Aghagallon - if they dont get anyone put off
I'm on a sweat here lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on October 23, 2021, 08:44:09 PM
Bannside. My geography is not great re the following
The club I talk of near here has dozens of wealthy millionaire members, many fanatical. They have almost everything they desire (within reason lol) except a senior championship. They will move heaven and earth to remove that statistic if they can, and atm are moving well in that regard.

Is it St Endas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 23, 2021, 08:46:11 PM
Wouldn't feel sorry for st galls had more good days than most
Need to invest time in their juveniles instead of hoping oul hands still have it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 23, 2021, 08:55:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 23, 2021, 10:21:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
It should be fairly acknowledged that the majority of officials working at county level do not claim mileage expenses.

Yes Duine, where will it end. Until CLG come out with a clear position on the matter the situation will continue to escalate into who has the biggest chequebook or fattest sponsor.

The club I talk of near here has dozens of wealthy millionaire members, many fanatical. They have almost everything they desire (within reason lol) except a senior championship. They will move heaven and earth to remove that statistic if they can, and atm are moving well in that regard.

It sets the bar higher even higher for the next club, especially if successful.
Yes majority of officials are volunteers there for the right reason but I have been told the switch to online ticket purchasing as a result of covid has seen a massive increase on match day income for Antrim. No more cash at the gate and rightly so.

You could still pay cash at the gate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2021, 09:11:54 PM
South Derry BigBall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: StPatsAbu on October 23, 2021, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 23, 2021, 08:55:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 23, 2021, 10:21:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
It should be fairly acknowledged that the majority of officials working at county level do not claim mileage expenses.

Yes Duine, where will it end. Until CLG come out with a clear position on the matter the situation will continue to escalate into who has the biggest chequebook or fattest sponsor.

The club I talk of near here has dozens of wealthy millionaire members, many fanatical. They have almost everything they desire (within reason lol) except a senior championship. They will move heaven and earth to remove that statistic if they can, and atm are moving well in that regard.

It sets the bar higher even higher for the next club, especially if successful.
Yes majority of officials are volunteers there for the right reason but I have been told the switch to online ticket purchasing as a result of covid has seen a massive increase on match day income for Antrim. No more cash at the gate and rightly so.

You could still pay cash at the gate

It's Belfast GAA after all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 23, 2021, 10:35:45 PM
4. No clubman wants the job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2021, 10:37:33 PM
I don't agree with a lot of that post tbh. Clubs sometimes pay outside managers because they have to. Maybe also because of internal failings to have structures to prepare coaches or to provide an environment where local people want to coach yes. If you don't agree with me on the having to point you are wrong because I have seen it first hand.

It really isn't the black and white issue it is painted as by some people. It may be in some cases but definitely not all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 23, 2021, 10:43:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 23, 2021, 10:40:48 PM
Bull. They may not have had a "good" manager available but they'd have found someone to do it. I've seen teams field without a "good" free taker or keeper. Do they suggest buying one in? No. They make do.

Shit talk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 23, 2021, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 23, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 23, 2021, 10:43:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 23, 2021, 10:40:48 PM
Bull. They may not have had a "good" manager available but they'd have found someone to do it. I've seen teams field without a "good" free taker or keeper. Do they suggest buying one in? No. They make do.

Shit talk
Explain....

Tell me the last club you heard of that didn't have a manager because nobody wanted to do it and they couldn't afford to pay one.

I'm talking about you comparing not having a free taker or a good keeper and then comparing that to not having a manager. Plenty of clubs struggle to find men from the club to take the team and end up having to pay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 23, 2021, 11:04:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 23, 2021, 10:53:09 PM
How is it different?
Some man will do it. He mightn't be good at it but he'll give it a go.

You will always find someone!

I mean, don't try to tell me that Aghagallon senior football (or any other club) would cease because they couldn't afford to pay an outside manager. It simply wouldn't happen.

No but you would find the circumstance of someone taking the team who wouldn't be capable of doing it or a group of players taking the team. Wouldn't be long get relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 24, 2021, 07:51:39 AM
D I E you are a stirring or just a twisted cxxt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 23, 2021, 10:40:48 PM
Bull. They may not have had a "good" manager available but they'd have found someone to do it. I've seen teams field without a "good" free taker or keeper. Do they suggest buying one in? No. They make do.

Does it never strike you as odd that the clubs who can't afford to pay a manager always seem to have one? Always!

I refer you to my previous not as black and white comment. I have been in agms where no one, no one, could be found so as I said before you are wrong. Also this paid manager thing is vastly overegged. Do you think a lot of these ones are getting any more than mileage at lower level? Jesus they are not stealing all the club's money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 24, 2021, 09:08:58 AM
Is there any chance Mc Aleese plays a part today ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 09:12:18 AM
Next thing he will be saying a local physio could be coaxed into providing free physio for the lads. The reality is, paying managers is now common place and has been for many many years. This isn't a new thing! It isn't going to change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 24, 2021, 09:08:58 AM
Is there any chance Mc Aleese plays a part today ?

Are Pg1 still turning up? By the talks of Bannside and the lads sure they've no chance  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2021, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 09:12:18 AM
Next thing he will be saying a local physio could be coaxed into providing free physio for the lads. The reality is, paying managers is now common place and has been for many many years. This isn't a new thing! It isn't going to change.
Exactly.. why is this still being talked about. "I wish there was no mobile phones now" is a similar pointless debate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 24, 2021, 09:29:31 AM
What's the thoughts on the IFC and JFC games today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 09:52:54 AM
Keep changing my mind on these games but think Paddies and Dunloy to go through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 10:07:51 AM
Eile my firmed I think you need to look up illegal! The laws of the GAA are not the laws of the land, therefore while paying managers maybe unlawful under the GAA rules of control it is not illegal! If you are talking about HMRC that is a different story however I would imagine many managers are doing tax returns and using their 'expenses' within the permitted laws. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, someone who thinks they have knowledge however is lethal to their own detriment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 10:36:05 AM
Catching up here on a good straight talking debate my views are well known at this stage. I Did laugh at the statement aghagallon win good for the whole parish. What parish ? Not all your management team are from the parish so is it good for 2 parishes? Or 3 or 4 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 10:53:44 AM
 ???

The aghagallon parish? Are you saying because the managers are not from there the team is not representative of the parish? Nonsense statement as usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2021, 10:53:52 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 10:36:05 AM
Catching up here on a good straight talking debate my views are well known at this stage. I Did laugh at the statement aghagallon win good for the whole parish. What parish ? Not all your management team are from the parish so is it good for 2 parishes? Or 3 or 4 ?
What parish is Belfast? One big parish. One big shit parish at the minute in GAA terms.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 10:36:05 AM
Catching up here on a good straight talking debate my views are well known at this stage. I Did laugh at the statement aghagallon win good for the whole parish. What parish ? Not all your management team are from the parish so is it good for 2 parishes? Or 3 or 4 ?

Sorry, it's great for all the parishes involved. Especially Aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 10:55:41 AM
He's a wum lads. Wouldn't take much notice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 11:00:41 AM
Probably illegal? I would stop short of using such language as you are throwing about serious allegations at that point!

In terms of the lawfulness or other wise of such payment and financial reporting it will depend on the source of the funds, a private business man 'gifting' payment to a manager will not attract tax, 'expenses' do attract tax however can be offset by fuel, food etc

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 24, 2021, 10:12:28 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 10:07:51 AM
REile my firmed I think you need to look up illegal! The laws of the GAA are not the laws of the land, therefore while paying managers maybe unlawful under the GAA rules of control it is not illegal! If you are talking about HMRC that is a different story however I would imagine many managers are doing tax returns and using their 'expenses' within the permitted laws. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, someone who thinks they have knowledge however is lethal to their own detriment
You would imagine a lot....

Anyway, I have always referred to it as "probably illegal". The drugs/mobile phone analogy was comparing something illegal in the GAA and something illegal in law.

And if (big if) managers are doing it correctly, how is it being documented in the GAA club's financial report?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 10:55:41 AM
He's a wum lads. Wouldn't take much notice
Truth hurt lad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 11:10:42 AM
I will admit it doesn't look great but it is hidden in in plain sight! We all have to accept that change is there, engage in sensible conversation as to what that change looks like rather than ignore the obvious which you have pointed out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 10:55:41 AM
He's a wum lads. Wouldn't take much notice
Truth hurt lad?

Not at all. I couldn't give a shit if it was someone from Cork managing us. I think it's you that it annoys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 10:55:41 AM
He's a wum lads. Wouldn't take much notice
Truth hurt lad?

Not at all. I couldn't give a shit if it was someone from Cork managing us. I think it's you that it annoys.
championship win with own people only involved is worth more than championship win with outsiders involved bcos its not all your victory and thats the truth and you know it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 24, 2021, 11:29:41 AM
Sorry to butt in but thats obvious.
The real question is championship win with an outsider or no championship with an insider.....again pretty obvious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2021, 11:30:15 AM
The simple points are this, other than expenses managers are not supposed to be paid. The reality is a lot different, and that's been happening going back as far as I can remember. So it's not a new phenomenon.

I've been in those agm's over the years were no one puts their hand up or shows any interest.

I've also been part of teams who prefer outside managers because they feel it's an equal playing field

Ive also been ask to step in and take teams temporarily as they can't find anyone, very difficult to say no, and it usually lasts a season!!

Personally I've no problems with outside managers who are paid expenses but not stupid money that's going around or any money coming from inside the club.

The GAA should come out and have a proper discussion about this and stop brushing this topic under the carpet.

As for medical staff, unless you have a clubman/woman whose trained and willing to do that then it's a care of duty to bring someone in, paying them is ok

I've been asked to take outside teams in the past, I wouldn't take anything other than mileage. That's just me, I'm sure some of the figures banded about are probably vastly exaggerated tbf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 11:50:00 AM
Aghagallon live rent free in Belfast GAA man's head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 11:59:12 AM
Mr most outsiders I have known of just take mileage. There are some clubs may pay some big money but tbh it is grossly exaggerated and then people with no sense read some nonsense on the internet and believe it then it's the greatest outrage ever.

I am sure aghagallon club people will be happy enough winning with "outsiders" and will be happy enough regardless. I don't know why they specifically getting the stick here either.

Load of shite talked in this debate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 11:50:00 AM
Aghagallon live rent free in Belfast GAA man's head

Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 01:00:44 PM
Hmmm. I think there is a lot of naivety on your part if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 01:16:01 PM
Some strike by Murray! Lamh Dhearg are their craic already.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 01:20:10 PM
At Dunsilly here and the linesmen are seeing a lot of these off the ball incidents but not doing anything about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 01:20:10 PM
At Dunsilly here and the linesmen are seeing a lot of these off the ball incidents but not doing anything about it.
Sure what's new
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 24, 2021, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 11:59:12 AM
Mr most outsiders I have known of just take mileage. There are some clubs may pay some big money but tbh it is grossly exaggerated and then people with no sense read some nonsense on the internet and believe it then it's the greatest outrage ever.

I am sure aghagallon club people will be happy enough winning with "outsiders" and will be happy enough regardless. I don't know why they specifically getting the stick here either.

Load of shite talked in this debate.
And continue to stick your head in the sand. It is spiralling. It needs addressed one way or the other.
FWIW, I've no gripe with Aghagallon. They're a drop in the ocean.
Like Rossa then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 02:24:51 PM
Portglenone by four nearly in extra time. That old codology bs has been up to must have worked  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 02:26:10 PM
And RC thought I was taking the p*as yesterday 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 02:31:02 PM
Portglenone V Aghagallon to go into a championship final! Unreal

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 02:31:25 PM
Game over. Great win for portglenone. Wonder can johnnies spring a surprise too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 24, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
Big win for PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 24, 2021, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 02:24:51 PM
Portglenone by four nearly in extra time. That old codology bs has been up to must have worked  ;D

Ach shure lookit..... 😃
That performance today wont be near good enough the next day 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2021, 03:35:16 PM
ACH sure we will turn up anyway and see how it goes..another punchers chance....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 03:38:23 PM
Hope there's no red cards overturned this time!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 24, 2021, 03:56:13 PM
Woeful, he was bullied! Paddy Cunningham refereed the match!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 04:01:59 PM
Dunloy won.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 04:02:28 PM
Sorry I mean Ballymena won.10 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 24, 2021, 04:03:29 PM
Well done PG1 - deserved it. LD need a rebuild? the herrons seem to be gone and cunningham and quinn look past it now.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 04:20:46 PM
 Who got the reds Jim?

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Hope there's no red cards overturned this time!
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 24, 2021, 04:24:07 PM
Bannside might know 2 of them!! Neither should have been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
There's two of them sitting here watching this Creggan v St Johns game, both feeling seriously agrieved.

Michael Herron is some miss for LD to be fair. He's been the key man in their defence for a long time. Wouldn't have conceded 5 goals had he been there.

Niall Delargys first ever red card in his career certainly needs to be revisited. His legs caught up with Marc Jordan and he couldn't get away. Jordy being the sportsman he is should back that up, he will know that no malice was intended. Hopefully justice is done.

Portglenone played rightly today at times, into a semi now having been very slow to kick in this year. We missed a lot of chances today that would not be good enough on other days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 05:05:21 PM
4/4 for the country boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:08:34 PM
Portglenone will be massive favourites for the semi final now! They'll secretly fancy themselves for the whole thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2021, 05:08:53 PM
Is there an adult county title heading to Belfast this season in either code?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:10:09 PM
They should just play the championship in South West until Belfast get their act together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 24, 2021, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:08:34 PM
Portglenone will be massive favourites for the semi final now! They'll secretly fancy themselves for the whole thing.

Not sure about that! Aghagallon are a good side and I wouldn't be confident in beating them. Realistically I think both sides are playing for second place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:08:34 PM
Portglenone will be massive favourites for the semi final now! They'll secretly fancy themselves for the whole thing.
Nothing like a bit of cute hoorism
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2021, 05:24:34 PM
Seen a great stat the other day, only one Sw team at senior has won the championship over 20 odd years. Only one had won Ulster and only one had won an All Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2021, 05:32:21 PM
One SW team in the last 55 years. That could all change Creggan will fancy it "as they left 2 titles behind them" in recent years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 05:35:05 PM
Split Cargin in 2 it's the only answer!

Thing is it's not only SFC this year, IFC and JC have all SW finals and both minor levels won by SW teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:37:01 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:08:34 PM
Portglenone will be massive favourites for the semi final now! They'll secretly fancy themselves for the whole thing.
Nothing like a bit of cute hoorism

It's true though. They're a few years ahead of us and will seriously fancy themselves against us. If we play well and get them on an off day we might have a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 05:35:05 PM
Split Cargin in 2 it's the only answer!

Thing is it's not only SFC this year, IFC and JC have all SW finals and both minor levels won by SW teams

You'll trigger a few men with that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 05:39:40 PM
Which bit in particular Jim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:37:01 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 24, 2021, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 05:08:34 PM
Portglenone will be massive favourites for the semi final now! They'll secretly fancy themselves for the whole thing.
Nothing like a bit of cute hoorism

It's true though. They're a few years ahead of us and will seriously fancy themselves against us. If we play well and get them on an off day we might have a chance.
Completely agree. They're a few years down the line. Aghagallon will be lucky to make a game of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2021, 06:26:37 PM
What was the result in the randalstown St. Paul's intermediate game? (It was St. Paul's wasn't it?)

I assume randalstown won as everyone saying all city teams out at all levels?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 06:31:33 PM
''Twas Sarsfields v Whitehill, think Whitehill won by 7 or so
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2021, 07:36:22 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 24, 2021, 05:39:40 PM
Which bit in particular Jim?

The second bit. Maybe we have more money in the country and are able to afford all these outside managers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 24, 2021, 07:36:58 PM
Today was a good day! LD flattened us in the first half, it was only in the second we played our game and let them worry about us. Good performance from our lads and realistically we should have won more comfortably.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jack O on October 24, 2021, 09:53:35 PM
The blue and white army march on,paddies second best by a country mile,that baldy f**ker kept sarsfields in it but class prevails TNN abu
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2021, 09:58:50 PM
Has anyone seen Hoganstand? It's supposed be some forum?  Not on it myself....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2021, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 24, 2021, 09:58:50 PM
Has anyone seen Hoganstand? It's supposed be some forum?  Not on it myself....

Obviously missing one of its idiots lately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 24, 2021, 10:14:55 PM
Were you there PJ? When I say flattened I mean they ran us ragged we were always going backwards with big gaps in front of our defence. Second half we went at them and let them worry about us. Anyone in attendance would agree with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2021, 10:25:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 24, 2021, 09:58:50 PM
Has anyone seen Hoganstand? It's supposed be some forum?  Not on it myself....

Can't argue with or teach stupid. Best ignored.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2021, 10:36:55 PM
County board deleting negative comments again on Facebook about the choice of venue for the semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 24, 2021, 11:09:15 PM
Plus great to see a bit of fight from our lads. No backing down in the second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
Exactly RC. We weren't great today, did enough. Look we get another day out, LD were along way off the team that we know better than most. Aghagallon very impressive yesterday, emphatic victory against a team that beat us comfortably a few weeks ago. 50/50 game, great for two ambitious clubs to be in that position. Of course all eyes will be on the other semi final, sure that's alright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2021, 12:15:47 AM
Just read Saffron Gael match report of St Johns game. I grew up in awe of the Johnnie's, was it 9 in a row they done too. Am I right in seeing they only scored two points from play yesterday. What the heck is going on in the city of Belfast atm? Antrim needs you to be strong, youre going in the complete opposite direction. And it gives me no pleasure in saying that.

8 parishes still involved in our championship season at all grades...all 8 from SW clubs.

Belfast you need to really take a good look at yourselves. The state of you atm is nothing short of a disgrace. Come on...you're better than that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 08:53:07 AM
Bannside id save that battle cry for your lads v aghagallon. let the city men worry about themselves.

And surely Casements wouldnt have the brass neck to try and get a 2nd red in two games overturned?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2021, 09:22:47 AM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 08:53:07 AM
Bannside od save that battle cry for your lads v aghagallon. let the city men worry about themselves.

And surely Casements wouldnt have the brass neck to try and get a 2nd red in two games overturned?

It'll be overturned surely. If it's not they've still got plenty of strength and depth. They had a couple of cracking players on the bench yesterday. It's bonus territory for Aghagallon now and we are massive underdogs going into this match but we will give it a go. Whatever happens I can't see Cargin being beaten. They'll have an eye on Ulster. Our neighbours Clann Eireann are playing a weak enough Cross team in the Armagh final and Cargin will fancy themselves in that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 25, 2021, 09:37:14 AM
Delighted with the result yesterday, we were the better team and had we had our shooting boots we would have been in total control in the first half. Our weakness in not having a reliable free taker came to bite us again. St Johns kickouts were brainless. What was their manger at first half with that strategy, much more varied second half. Jamie Mc Cann was massive for us, as was Eunan Mc Ateer to. We looked really solid in defence. All credit to St Johns for making a real fight of it. We shouldn't have needed our keeper to make the save in the last couple of minutes, we didn't attack and finish off the game on repeated turnovers, instead of trying to recycle and keep the ball. Great result but will need more need weekend.

Quote from: bannside on October 25, 2021, 12:15:47 AM
Just read Saffron Gael match report of St Johns game. I grew up in awe of the Johnnie's, was it 9 in a row they done too. Am I right in seeing they only scored two points from play yesterday. What the heck is going on in the city of Belfast atm? Antrim needs you to be strong, youre going in the complete opposite direction. And it gives me no pleasure in saying that.

8 parishes still involved in our championship season at all grades...all 8 from SW clubs.

Belfast you need to really take a good look at yourselves. The state of you atm is nothing short of a disgrace. Come on...you're better than that!

Thats rich, coming from a man who has bad mouthed the Casements manager up and down the past eight weeks to anyone you could get talking to. Obviously he still has the changing room after yesterdays result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 25, 2021, 10:05:47 AM
Football in Belfast is dead.  All city teams out of all competitions without a whimper.  The country boys ruling the roost now and for years to come.  Belfast is a long long way behind, the teams like LD, St Galls, St Johns are even failing massively at youth level, in recent years some of those clubs havent even fielding minor teams for goodness sake.  Sure they are the money men but St Bridgets seem to be the only Belfast club along maybe with St Enda's & St Pauls to an extent who seem to be making any strides at youth level.

I would question Antrim county board though, the fixture scheduling of youth football is nothing short of a disgrace, there is such a lack of game no wonder your losing players to soccer, rugby and other sports who are able to offer players maybe 20 or so matches a season.  Its all about playing matches and thats where Antrim gets it so so wrong, it doesn't happen in Down, Tyrone, Derry, Donegal etc.....It seems hurling takes priority in Antrim over the football from the outside looking in. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2021, 10:25:02 AM
All joking and slagging aside. It is worrying for Belfast GAA but it's definitely not dead. I'm sure those traditional clubs will be back at some stage. St. Brigid's look like they'll become the new show in town in a few years time, Rossa have some decent talent but seem more into the hurling and St Paul's have a couple of good underage teams. The size and population in some of those areas and some teams literally can't find 20 lads to play minor. I can't understand it at all. There are some years when there is just a low number of lads born at that age group but in the city that excuse doesn't exist. Are they playing different sports or is it just young lads in the city aren't interested and have too many other distractions? I know the usual ones will come on and say about county titles etc in the city. But those county titles aren't what I'm talking about. There needs to be 5 or 6 Belfast teams competing each year for all the titles. Not just one team who have a mixture of boys from different clubs playing for them. A really strong competitive GAA competition is needed at all ages.

GAA is going well in the countryside at the minute but it's definitely not all good in every club either. The clubs that are putting in the work are the ones that are producing good teams. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 25, 2021, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 25, 2021, 10:05:47 AM
Football in Belfast is dead.  All city teams out of all competitions without a whimper.  The country boys ruling the roost now and for years to come.  Belfast is a long long way behind, the teams like LD, St Galls, St Johns are even failing massively at youth level, in recent years some of those clubs havent even fielding minor teams for goodness sake.  Sure they are the money men but St Bridgets seem to be the only Belfast club along maybe with St Enda's & St Pauls to an extent who seem to be making any strides at youth level.

I would question Antrim county board though, the fixture scheduling of youth football is nothing short of a disgrace, there is such a lack of game no wonder your losing players to soccer, rugby and other sports who are able to offer players maybe 20 or so matches a season.  Its all about playing matches and thats where Antrim gets it so so wrong, it doesn't happen in Down, Tyrone, Derry, Donegal etc.....It seems hurling takes priority in Antrim over the football from the outside looking in.

Such bullsh*t, football in Belfast is fine, let's look at the list of div 1 clubs and you tell me which clubs should be criticised? Tell ya what it shouldn't be any of the Belfast clubs because really bar st bridgets(who in fairness have started hurling) all have been competing in hurling and football this year, with the short condensed season a lot of players have been run into the ground playing both. How bout we talk about clubs who don't bother giving hurling any thought? Cargin, portglenone aggagallon? 3 of the 4 semi finalists have no hurling, maybe that's the over riding factor? Massive fair play to Creggan who got to the IHC final and now SFC semi final.

Massive over reaction to not having a Belfast team in the last 4 but these things happen, it's an insult to a lot of clubs and a lot of people saying football in Belfast is dead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2021, 10:43:14 AM
St Pauls were unlucky not to win the u17 and st brigids won the u15. I expect st pauls to come again.

Tbh I am disappointed that LD didn't push on from winning the ulster minor. You'd have thought there were  few seniors in them. St Johns still aren't that bad either.

Same as anything these things come in cycles though it does look like Cargin will dominate for a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 25, 2021, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 25, 2021, 10:05:47 AM
Football in Belfast is dead.  All city teams out of all competitions without a whimper.  The country boys ruling the roost now and for years to come.  Belfast is a long long way behind, the teams like LD, St Galls, St Johns are even failing massively at youth level, in recent years some of those clubs havent even fielding minor teams for goodness sake.  Sure they are the money men but St Bridgets seem to be the only Belfast club along maybe with St Enda's & St Pauls to an extent who seem to be making any strides at youth level.

I would question Antrim county board though, the fixture scheduling of youth football is nothing short of a disgrace, there is such a lack of game no wonder your losing players to soccer, rugby and other sports who are able to offer players maybe 20 or so matches a season.  Its all about playing matches and thats where Antrim gets it so so wrong, it doesn't happen in Down, Tyrone, Derry, Donegal etc.....It seems hurling takes priority in Antrim over the football from the outside looking in.

Such bullsh*t, football in Belfast is fine, let's look at the list of div 1 clubs and you tell me which clubs should be criticised? Tell ya what it shouldn't be any of the Belfast clubs because really bar st bridgets(who in fairness have started hurling) all have been competing in hurling and football this year, with the short condensed season a lot of players have been run into the ground playing both. How bout we talk about clubs who don't bother giving hurling any thought? Cargin, portglenone aggagallon? 3 of the 4 semi finalists have no hurling, maybe that's the over riding factor? Massive fair play to Creggan who got to the IHC final and now SFC semi final.

Massive over reaction to not having a Belfast team in the last 4 but these things happen, it's an insult to a lot of clubs and a lot of people saying football in Belfast is dead.
Why would we give hurling any thought lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2021, 11:31:57 AM
Yes DK, Casements management have got their dressing room intact again, made some good calls yesterday that worked well, and mood in the camp is definitely a bit better. There was a ropey spell (it happens) but between management and players they seem to have worked their way through it, credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
The numbers in the city isnt neccessarily an advantage. Its the community that binds a club together and thats where i think the differences are laying in antrim at the moment.

It was no coincidence that during the troubles St.Johns, St.Pauls, Rossa, St.Galls, LD etc.. were all tight knit clubs/teams with the outside factors they faced on a daily basis playing a part in geling them lads together. Them teams had all lads with family connections to the club, their social clubs were a hub for the community and you usually played for the club whos area you were from. The modern version of this in what we are seeing today is the city teams have players scattered all around the city who have no comings and goings with each other outside of GAA.

Country teams have usually 4 or 5 family connections in each team from underage up to senior, as well as primary schools where each school in a town/village is prodominantly filled with the local clubs players. All this adds to the culture of a club which is slowly slipping away from City teams. However we have seen from St.Galls and Brigids more recently, that all that can be papered over by getting palyers in from other clubs and making a good senior team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2021, 12:27:34 PM
the lack of hurling in SW is an advantage for the football clubs there - do no lads want to hurl in Toome / PG1 / Agha??
Belfast needs a turbo charged Gaelfast at primary & secondary schools but its moving very slowl
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 25, 2021, 12:36:00 PM
City sides need to start paying their managers. It's the only way forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2021, 12:46:42 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 12:51:53 PM
Some of the comments on here are laughable, the hard work is done at underage long before worrying about who the senior manager is and whether he is paid or not. Take a look at the beaten teams over the weekend, no young players to bring through just the same tired old legs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 01:02:17 PM
Yeah i dont think even at outside manager could improve some of the teams around antrim when the work isnt being done prior to them coming in. St.Galls still spending money on outside coaches as last couple of years and still seems to be a decline. Better investing that in underage coaching/facilities perhaps
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2021, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 25, 2021, 12:27:34 PM
the lack of hurling in SW is an advantage for the football clubs there - do no lads want to hurl in Toome / PG1 / Agha??
Belfast needs a turbo charged Gaelfast at primary & secondary schools but its moving very slowl

Lads who want to play hurling can surely go to a club nearby?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 03:03:21 PM
Any hurlers from pg1 play for Ahoghill, in round toome creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 25, 2021, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 25, 2021, 12:36:00 PM
City sides need to start paying their managers. It's the only way forward
Clubs don't pay managers. They only give them expenses.  ::)

And jobs and cars and free pastie baps from Raffos.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 03:03:21 PM
Any hurlers from pg1 play for Ahoghill, in round toome creggan.

Aghagallon play for the Lurgan hurling club and one lad actually plays for Sarsfields in Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 25, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 03:03:21 PM
Any hurlers from pg1 play for Ahoghill, in round toome creggan.

We did have a few play for us but not too many. James Laverty was a good we hurler, and played on the team that won the NA indoor league - Div , always wore his Cargin shorts and socks  ;D

Ciaran O'Neill played for a couple of seasons,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2021, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 25, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 03:03:21 PM
Any hurlers from pg1 play for Ahoghill, in round toome creggan.

We did have a few play for us but not too many. James Laverty was a good we hurler, and played on the team that won the NA indoor league - Div , always wore his Cargin shorts and socks  ;D

Ciaran O'Neill played for a couple of seasons,

Ciaran was a decent hurler from memory
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 04:55:09 PM
Interesting decision  about intermediate final. Pg1 under lights is superb, we have numerous examples to prove that, loughgiel and johnnies hurlers loved it. My point would be from a players perspective surely they would prefer a game in daylight hours? Maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2021, 05:06:50 PM
There is something about floodlit games that just make it more of a spectacle I think. It'll be a cracker of a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
For once pj I agree with you, although I think Ballymena will have far too much about them for Whitehill. All saints by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2021, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
For once pj I agree with you, although I think Ballymena will have far too much about them for Whitehill. All saints by 6

Us Culchies have to stick together against the chip eaters 😉😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
The numbers in the city isnt neccessarily an advantage. Its the community that binds a club together and thats where i think the differences are laying in antrim at the moment.

It was no coincidence that during the troubles St.Johns, St.Pauls, Rossa, St.Galls, LD etc.. were all tight knit clubs/teams with the outside factors they faced on a daily basis playing a part in geling them lads together. Them teams had all lads with family connections to the club, their social clubs were a hub for the community and you usually played for the club whos area you were from. The modern version of this in what we are seeing today is the city teams have players scattered all around the city who have no comings and goings with each other outside of GAA.

Country teams have usually 4 or 5 family connections in each team from underage up to senior, as well as primary schools where each school in a town/village is prodominantly filled with the local clubs players. All this adds to the culture of a club which is slowly slipping away from City teams. However we have seen from St.Galls and Brigids more recently, that all that can be papered over by getting palyers in from other clubs and making a good senior team!


Who did St Brigids bring in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 25, 2021, 07:10:47 PM
Why is Ahoghill not getting many games now? Surely it or Portglenone would have been the place for Cargin v Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
The numbers in the city isnt neccessarily an advantage. Its the community that binds a club together and thats where i think the differences are laying in antrim at the moment.

It was no coincidence that during the troubles St.Johns, St.Pauls, Rossa, St.Galls, LD etc.. were all tight knit clubs/teams with the outside factors they faced on a daily basis playing a part in geling them lads together. Them teams had all lads with family connections to the club, their social clubs were a hub for the community and you usually played for the club whos area you were from. The modern version of this in what we are seeing today is the city teams have players scattered all around the city who have no comings and goings with each other outside of GAA.

Country teams have usually 4 or 5 family connections in each team from underage up to senior, as well as primary schools where each school in a town/village is prodominantly filled with the local clubs players. All this adds to the culture of a club which is slowly slipping away from City teams. However we have seen from St.Galls and Brigids more recently, that all that can be papered over by getting palyers in from other clubs and making a good senior team!


Who did St Brigids bring in?
There isnt enough characters available to name them all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2021, 07:54:53 PM
Is it not kind of the nature of the area though? South belfast has very few south belfast people in it...

Bredagh is the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2021, 08:20:17 PM
The quality of some of the lads leaves a lot to be desired 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 09:40:25 PM
Chatting to a not long retired creggan player today, saying they are convinced they will beat Cargin, can't see it but best of luck til them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2021, 09:49:19 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 09:40:25 PM
Chatting to a not long retired creggan player today, saying they are convinced they will beat Cargin, can't see it but best of luck til them.

I was chatting to a Cargin player today. He was saying they're going to win Ulster. Was also charging to a Portglenone man and he was saying they're going to be up against it in the final. Must be no point in Aghagallon turning up next week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
I'm laying it out now.
1. Casements will struggle to beat Aghagallon, it could go either way.
2. Creggan will not beat Cargin.
3. Cargin will win final.
4. Cargin will not win a match in Ulster.
I am fully available for ridicule when all 4 or any of these things happen. In fact I will say Aghagallon by 1pt for number 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
The numbers in the city isnt neccessarily an advantage. Its the community that binds a club together and thats where i think the differences are laying in antrim at the moment.

It was no coincidence that during the troubles St.Johns, St.Pauls, Rossa, St.Galls, LD etc.. were all tight knit clubs/teams with the outside factors they faced on a daily basis playing a part in geling them lads together. Them teams had all lads with family connections to the club, their social clubs were a hub for the community and you usually played for the club whos area you were from. The modern version of this in what we are seeing today is the city teams have players scattered all around the city who have no comings and goings with each other outside of GAA.

Country teams have usually 4 or 5 family connections in each team from underage up to senior, as well as primary schools where each school in a town/village is prodominantly filled with the local clubs players. All this adds to the culture of a club which is slowly slipping away from City teams. However we have seen from St.Galls and Brigids more recently, that all that can be papered over by getting palyers in from other clubs and making a good senior team!


Who did St Brigids bring in?
There isnt enough characters available to name them all


A couple would do...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 25, 2021, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on October 25, 2021, 07:10:47 PM
Why is Ahoghill not getting many games now? Surely it or Portglenone would have been the place for Cargin v Creggan.

Or ballymena Randalstown maybe even dunsilly
Anywhere but St endas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
The numbers in the city isnt neccessarily an advantage. Its the community that binds a club together and thats where i think the differences are laying in antrim at the moment.

It was no coincidence that during the troubles St.Johns, St.Pauls, Rossa, St.Galls, LD etc.. were all tight knit clubs/teams with the outside factors they faced on a daily basis playing a part in geling them lads together. Them teams had all lads with family connections to the club, their social clubs were a hub for the community and you usually played for the club whos area you were from. The modern version of this in what we are seeing today is the city teams have players scattered all around the city who have no comings and goings with each other outside of GAA.

Country teams have usually 4 or 5 family connections in each team from underage up to senior, as well as primary schools where each school in a town/village is prodominantly filled with the local clubs players. All this adds to the culture of a club which is slowly slipping away from City teams. However we have seen from St.Galls and Brigids more recently, that all that can be papered over by getting palyers in from other clubs and making a good senior team!


Who did St Brigids bring in?
There isnt enough characters available to name them all


A couple would do...
Dara Edwards
Willie McSorley
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 10:40:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 10:22:21 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 25, 2021, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 25, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 25, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
The numbers in the city isnt neccessarily an advantage. Its the community that binds a club together and thats where i think the differences are laying in antrim at the moment.

It was no coincidence that during the troubles St.Johns, St.Pauls, Rossa, St.Galls, LD etc.. were all tight knit clubs/teams with the outside factors they faced on a daily basis playing a part in geling them lads together. Them teams had all lads with family connections to the club, their social clubs were a hub for the community and you usually played for the club whos area you were from. The modern version of this in what we are seeing today is the city teams have players scattered all around the city who have no comings and goings with each other outside of GAA.

Country teams have usually 4 or 5 family connections in each team from underage up to senior, as well as primary schools where each school in a town/village is prodominantly filled with the local clubs players. All this adds to the culture of a club which is slowly slipping away from City teams. However we have seen from St.Galls and Brigids more recently, that all that can be papered over by getting palyers in from other clubs and making a good senior team!


Who did St Brigids bring in?
There isnt enough characters available to name them all


A couple would do...
Dara Edwards
Willoe McSorley

Ah... I thought it was more recent sides you were referring to.

Neither of those two lads have played for St Brigids in 9-10 years.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on October 25, 2021, 11:20:53 PM
Poster Jack O gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 25, 2021, 11:33:25 PM
Cargin to win another Championship in 2nd gear? Creggan knock on the door each year but we all know they will not beat the Toome men.
Aghagallon will beat PG1 in my humble opinion - the prize for them will be a county final hammering.

I just hope the Antrim county board sees sense for next year and it finds a better Championship system instead of a long slow group system. Teams started this competition in August. Only came to life this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 11:36:05 PM
I would find it hard to argue with anything you have posted.
Not looking forward til Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 25, 2021, 11:43:12 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 25, 2021, 11:36:05 PM
I would find it hard to argue with anything you have posted.
Not looking forward til Sunday

I think the Ports Aghagallon game will be very tight. I watched both quarter finals on Pairc TV and Ports just won't get the goal chances they were handed against LD.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2021, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: ck on October 25, 2021, 11:33:25 PM
Cargin to win another Championship in 2nd gear? Creggan knock on the door each year but we all know they will not beat the Toome men.
Aghagallon will beat PG1 in my humble opinion - the prize for them will be a county final hammering.

I just hope the Antrim county board sees sense for next year and it finds a better Championship system instead of a long slow group system. Teams started this competition in August. Only came to life this weekend.

Spot on. It's dragged on far to long for everybody.

It'll be Cargin again, All Saints & Rasharkin I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 26, 2021, 09:01:26 AM
What date is final down for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 09:39:31 AM
14th November for senior final
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Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 09:49:51 AM
Any update on the Adam Loughrey injury? Cam on the last 7-8 minutes in the 1/4 final but was obviously not fit, will he start on Sunday? Big player for St Marys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 26, 2021, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: ck on October 25, 2021, 11:33:25 PM
Cargin to win another Championship in 2nd gear? Creggan knock on the door each year but we all know they will not beat the Toome men.
Aghagallon will beat PG1 in my humble opinion - the prize for them will be a county final hammering.

I just hope the Antrim county board sees sense for next year and it finds a better Championship system instead of a long slow group system. Teams started this competition in August. Only came to life this weekend.

Yep, the group stages have got to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2021, 10:21:50 AM
Group stages are important as you play an entire league without your county players. Clubs like Creggan and Cargin who have 5/6 panel members need to be supported otherwise their county  players will prioritise their club at the expense of the county. Therefore the group stages allow county players to play for their club to prepare for knockout football, just need to condense the group and the gap from the group conclusion to quarter final closed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 10:28:54 AM
Agree Dunsilly, with a tighter time frame the group stages would work so much better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 26, 2021, 10:52:40 AM
Was there not a total of 17 players from Cargin and Creggan on last year's panel?
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Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 10:54:59 AM
Make the league single round then championship 2 groups of 7, top 2 in each into semis, bottom 2 play off for intermediate relegation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 26, 2021, 10:56:13 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 10:28:54 AM
Agree Dunsilly, with a tighter time frame the group stages would work so much better.
The tighter timeframe would be ideal

Where does that leave dual clubs though

If you take last weekends business end fixtures you had Dunloy, Creggan & StJohns who were at the latter stages of the hurling championship (apologies if I have forgotten anyone)

Hard to get a schedule that works for everyone

Throw U20 on top of it as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 26, 2021, 11:00:38 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 26, 2021, 10:21:50 AM
Group stages are important as you play an entire league without your county players. Clubs like Creggan and Cargin who have 5/6 panel members need to be supported otherwise their county  players will prioritise their club at the expense of the county. Therefore the group stages allow county players to play for their club to prepare for knockout football, just need to condense the group and the gap from the group conclusion to quarter final closed.

Tyrone won an All Ireland and were able to go with straight knock out and everyone seems to agree that their championship this year has been excellent, groups have to go they aren't good, so many dead rubbers. The split season next year should mean clubs aren't playing as many games without county players, even play the league everyone play eachother once, then do a split for promotion and relegation where county players must be available. as soon as the league is over straight into knockout championship. Clubs get a lead in to championship of 5/6 games with their full panel and no excuses for missing out on promotion or getting relegated due to not having county players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 26, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
I enjoyed the group stages and it shakes out the best teams for the quarter-final run in.  I'd rather have a prolonged championship than a prolonged league.  What is the player view?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 26, 2021, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 26, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
I enjoyed the group stages and it shakes out the best teams for the quarter-final run in.  I'd rather have a prolonged championship than a prolonged league.  What is the player view?

Equally you could say it gives big clubs a 2nd or 3rd bite at the cherry, I think players prefer straight knock out. Championship is supposed to be about a raised intensity, we had group games being played within 3 days of each other, how can players raise the intensity for them? the league by its definition is longer, we dont need group games to make a longer championship, we need straight knockout, or if we really must give teams a 2nd chance then go for a back door but the groups really have to go. Look at the IFC and JFC groups, they were a farce, in IFC you had a group of 6 where after 3 games 2/3 teams were already out yet they had to wait 2/3 weeks to finish their group games which meant nothing to them. You're telling me thats better than straight knock out? Or Creggan missing out on their last competitive game before knock out because the team they were playing had nothing to play for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 26, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
Championship is championship. It should be straight open draw knockout, no back door and no seeding. 
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Post by: bannside on October 26, 2021, 12:04:03 PM
It's as much about revenue as anything else. Straight knockout would give you about 11 senior games (in senior cship) in total. Current format gives us at least three times that. I think we need to take that into consideration as well. Many counties rely heavily on cship gate receipt revenue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 12:15:13 PM
So if the group games were one match against each opponent, and then the knockout stages were tightened up on the timeline to run immediately after, would that not be a good format?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2021, 01:04:44 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 26, 2021, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 26, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
Championship is championship. It should be straight open draw knockout, no back door and no seeding.
I agree. Antrim were put out of the championship at the beginning of July. There is plenty of time to get games in before starting the championship mid September. You could nearly play another league ffs.

Why the group stages needed to play each other twice when it was only once in hurling is beyond me too.

So the paid managers get more money. 😉

But you're correct in what your saying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 26, 2021, 02:00:23 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 26, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
I enjoyed the group stages and it shakes out the best teams for the quarter-final run in.  I'd rather have a prolonged championship than a prolonged league.  What is the player view?

There's a difference in prolonging a championship with more games & prolonging it with 7 week breaks like some teams got.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 26, 2021, 03:02:47 PM
All fair points and you can't beat knockout football.  Im just saying I personally enjoyed it and it was an opportunity to bring the kids to a few extra games which had a bit of profile which is always important.   I'd think long and hard about alternatives before changing it too much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2021, 03:21:05 PM
On football alone (hurling not my concern ;D)
U20 Championship played from late March - 2nd week in May. Truly a disaster where U20s was placed this year, needs a rightful place in calendar, so after Ulster U20s finishes club U20s should start.
Sen and reserve League football starts Mid April with one round minus any county players, county players re-joining squads before July. Play another round of league games with county players then straight into a knockout championship, completed by early October. 14 teams in this years senior championship four dates required to complete a knockout championship (Prelim, Quarter, Semi, Final)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 03:25:16 PM
U21/U20 Championship has been a disaster for years. Saturday afternoon slot doesn't work. Timing has to be spring time after the county u20 season is over and collger and uni football finished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on October 26, 2021, 04:32:47 PM
The big problem in Antrim is that hurling and football is seriously promoted in both clubs and the county. That's a big problem.

Creggan, Tir na Nog, Ahoghill, Rasharkin, Ballymena, Dunloy, Glenravel, St Johns, Rossa, Sarsfields, St Galls, Gort na Mona, etc will all have dual players trying to win both championships.

This is a major challenge to the county on how to run championships for football and hurling in a tight window.

One solution is direct knockout to free up the weeks etc, but if you have county players only coming back in July / August, you minght only see your county players play one game in the year

It is a tough problem to crack
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 26, 2021, 06:33:39 PM
Portglenone 8/13 this weekend, any word if an appeal is going in for delargys straight red ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 07:08:59 PM
Interesting from what I hear that the linesman who made the call against Delargy on Sunday past is reffing this Sunday

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Portglenone 8/13 this weekend, any word if an appeal is going in for delargys straight red ?
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 07:31:01 PM
Worse again PJ and someone hold RC down for when he reads this but I have just heard that the man who caused the mayhem in the first PG1 v Ahoghill game is on the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 07:37:40 PM
Sean Laverty is a very good ref, he has the guts to make the big calls and doesn't get bullied easily. If it wasn't for his input on Sunday Roberts would have totally lost the run of the game or more than he did! I would be surprised if the red wasn't overturned. 8/13 if true is an awful price and would indicate that Aghagallon are better than even money, I'd have some of that.

Don't get me started on that other clown if he is on the line!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 07:46:01 PM
So are you suggesting RC if Sean did make the call for Delargy on Sunday that it is the correct call and therefore the red card should not be overturned? Or is he only a good ref who makes the big calls and doesn't get bullied as long as it's in PG1's favour?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
And just to be clear I rank Sean in the top 3 refs in the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 26, 2021, 07:55:59 PM
Sean Laverty made the call based on what he saw. I watched the incident several times and I don't fault Sean, it looked bad. Now here's the reality. ND was watching the match with me, and explained how both his legs were trapped under Marc Jordan. He had literally no where to go. I'm hoping Marc Jordan would confirm that, they are both two honest players that know each other well.

Niall has played many hundreds of competitive matches for club school university and county, and never got a red card, ever. I hope justice is done, but wouldn't be relying on video evidence, that looked bad at first glance.

Whatever way it works out all you expect from refs is fair play and consistency. Most of the times you will get that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 07:59:11 PM
I'm gonna be honest and say I didn't see what happened it was the other side from where I was. I was too busy trying to figure out how the hell it resulted in a free against us after the initial incident where it all began. It was a free because Paddy C wanted it to be a free!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 26, 2021, 08:03:03 PM
It looked bad from my viewpoint , and can understand the call the linesman made on the incident. Saying that, you wouldn't want any player to miss out on a semi final of a championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 08:05:36 PM
Totally agree Bannside, I can handle a ref making a mistake, it's the lack of consistency and fairness which gets my blood up. So far this year I have seen it blatantly twice in our Championship games where refs clearly for what ever reason didn't apply the rules. Yer man against Ahoghill in my opinion was so far out of his depth it was unreal as for Sunday past I genuinely believe it was barefaced bias towards a city side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 08:23:03 PM
I am in now way taking the side of either ref here RC, however, does your  own bias play any part on how you are viewing a) the innocence of Delargy and b) the performance of the refs, yea you were beaten by Ahoghill so you have an axe to grind and on Sunday you had a key player red carded so another axe to grind!

How do you suggest we make these refs better or do you think we should just can them? Genuinely interested as consistency of views on certain refs is also key
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 08:28:38 PM
There is a lot of validity in what you say, however my response would in case A, speak to an Ahoghill player and ask them what they thought of the ref that night, he was shocking both ways and nearly caused a riot.
In case B please ask any neutral on Sunday or dare I say it a Lamh Derg player/follower, it was scandalous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 08:32:54 PM
Surely the prevention of a riot is incumbent on the people attending a game and not the ref and I have no doubt LD will also be annoyed with B as they lost on Sunday!

I have been at many games where Creggan have lost and for the most try my best not to blame a ref or official! Do the refs kick wides, mis place passes? As my aul day would say take care of your own performance and do not leave it to someone else to help you out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 08:52:54 PM
Please don't misunderstand me it wasn't mcdermots fault we lost to Ahoghill, no sir not at all. However when we were 4 pts up he turned completely against us and gave us nothing, we should have been home and hosed by then. If we had lost on Sunday it would have been a travesty due to how bad ref was, he blatantly tried to get one team to win!! Any LD posters or neutrals on the board who can back this up.
Can I end by saying I fully respect referees to the point where I feel they might be a little narcissistic, why would anyone want to do that!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 09:13:47 PM
I wasn't at the Ahoghill game but I was told by a PG1 man that your boys stopped playing 10
Mins into the second half, thought the game was over and took Ahoghill for granted, to the extent that Borris beat Delargy in a foot race over 25 yards in the last 10
Mins!!

As for Sunday, I am not sure about Conall but I know both him and McDermot are in the Ulster set up, maybe they are trying too much theory and not enough common sense

As for refs being narcissists I am not sure that is the description I would use, however yes they have to be self confident and believe in their ability to make decisions and stand by them!

As for McDermott when McKeever is lifting the cup of Nov 14 and PG1 are county champions you will be glad he gave your boys the early short sharp shock  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 09:22:03 PM
Stopped playing after 10 mins in second half?? Never fecking started playing whole game and St Brigid's after it was worse.
As for Borris winning a foot race I didn't see that and if I had I would have booked myself in for therapy lol.
Yer quare craic re lifting trophy...
I thought Dermot was captain  🤔 😕.

Lol Cargin are 4/11 to lift it for a reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2021, 09:23:53 PM
Scandalous use of this forum to either get a dig in at a referee, or try and get a man off with a suspension. Wise up. Portglenone men getting slighfly carried away with themselves. Cool the jets lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 09:31:09 PM
Don't see your point EOC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 26, 2021, 09:36:32 PM
I think its the boy that thinks the Antrim board will be reading the Gaaboard and using it in makin their decisions thats gettin carried away with himself 😃

As an outsider livin not a million miles away from PG1 im enjoying this and its giving me a bigger interest in the Antrim cship so carry on lads 😊
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 09:43:18 PM
You overestimate the Antrim county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 09:44:44 PM
Maith thu Calm Down  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 26, 2021, 09:47:05 PM
Whatever happens we get on with it ...just stating the facts. Pretty sure there was a queue forming on this thread last year to declare Mick's innocence. Or was I imaging that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 09:53:44 PM
Just what I was about to post Bannside.
On another note would love to see St Comgalls win junior, some great lads have given so much time to that club, plus they are playing Rasharkin!.
Also to scotchy and All Saints, who I believe should be a comfortable mid table Div 1/senior championship side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 26, 2021, 10:00:58 PM
It only took the County chairman to give Mick his innocence whether you agree with that decision or not is another story!

Ah now RC you're a very bitter man, would be nice to see Rasharkin get the junior and leave down that drink if that is your honest opinion on All Saints, however I do hope they do the business on Saturday night as Whitehill would be hard to listen to if they won and even harder when PG1 beat our boys in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2021, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 26, 2021, 09:47:05 PM
Whatever happens we get on with it ...just stating the facts. Pretty sure there was a queue forming on this thread last year to declare Mick's innocence. Or was I imaging that!
No one should ever miss a championship game for anything less than a clear or attempted strike or kick or serious verbals to an official, or spitting etc. Micks was for nothing and thats why he got off.  Not sure what the red Portglenone got was for but thats my thoughts on it. I'm behind you if the offence is none of the above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 10:09:07 PM
Any truth in the story that Cargin have eased up on training so they can go hard for Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2021, 10:16:29 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 10:09:07 PM
Any truth in the story that Cargin have eased up on training so they can go hard for Ulster?
Never you worry about Ulster, worry about the other boys in green
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 10:28:51 PM
Only asking. I've no great love for Creggan so wouldn't want youse to take the eye off the ball. I'd rather youse won it than creggan tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 07:37:40 PM
Sean Laverty is a very good ref, he has the guts to make the big calls and doesn't get bullied easily. If it wasn't for his input on Sunday Roberts would have totally lost the run of the game or more than he did! I would be surprised if the red wasn't overturned. 8/13 if true is an awful price and would indicate that Aghagallon are better than even money, I'd have some of that.

Don't get me started on that other clown if he is on the line!
You can't be serious RC, video clearly showed the knees going into the player on the ground
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 11:44:48 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 09:53:44 PM
Just what I was about to post Bannside.
On another note would love to see St Comgalls win junior, some great lads have given so much time to that club, plus they are playing Rasharkin!.
Also to scotchy and All Saints, who I believe should be a comfortable mid table Div 1/senior championship side.

I will have a bit of what your smoking, Ballymena beat a Dunloy side who unfortunately had a bit of a do the night before, feel very sorry for Amcq and football gaels in Dunloy who are treated with such disrespect. Tng will beat Bmena I think, Bmena a mile off div 1 football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on October 26, 2021, 11:59:10 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 26, 2021, 09:53:44 PM
Just what I was about to post Bannside.
On another note would love to see St Comgalls win junior, some great lads have given so much time to that club, plus they are playing Rasharkin!.
Also to scotchy and All Saints, who I believe should be a comfortable mid table Div 1/senior championship side.

Oul rivalries showing up, you would think you would wish your near neighbours well in the junior final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 08:59:16 AM
It would be a frosty night in hell dreen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 27, 2021, 10:18:45 AM
Was at the Casements game and without hesitation i can say it looked like ND had a moment of madness! Felt sorry for him as he has been a great servant for club and county and desrves a run in a championship but if he gets let off what message does that give out to the rest of the players in the county? NMcK already has his overturned for elbowing an ahoghill player in the face! And if we are going by track records i would say Caements is up there with the worst disciplined clubs in the county. So them an Aghagallon should be a spicy affair which requires a strong ref

was at the ballymena game also. IMO Ballymena wont beat TNN, itl be a close game and Ballymena have the players but for some reason i dont think they have the cuteness or game plan to beat a well set up TNN.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 27, 2021, 10:27:54 AM
Right about up until 5 mins ago I did not know what had happened with Delargy but then I just got the video clip sent to me, you can see that his two legs are not caught under Jordan as his left leg is free and then he clearly drops his knees on top of him, I would have it that he falls over but a) his leg is free and b) when falling by accident you put your hands down to save you hence when so many broken wrists when people fall, however Delargy has his arms out protesting his innocence as he falls, clear sign of a premediated action albeit as Roger says a rush of blood.

And to agree with Roger again (shaky ground this agreeing with people) it is unfortunate that he may have to miss the semi final but he needs to be careful on appeal that his ban is not increased for a frivolous appeal as I would not like to see him miss the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 10:49:26 AM
Wooo Woo woo. Stop right there!!
Elbow to the face, did you see it??? That is a libelous thing to say!!
Worst discipline in county??? Lol try telling the boys in our social club that!! We are far too soft, other teams bully us because they know what will happened, we are not ill disciplined, we are not streetwise enough, all teams get involved, we haven't the sense to do it when no one is looking!!!.
As for Niall incident as previously stated I was too far away to pass judgement, would like to see it again, pass those clips to me!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
Is everybody who says they're from Portglenone here actually from Portglenone...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 11:12:30 AM
Not sure what you are getting at tommy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
Is everybody who says they're from Portglenone here actually from Portglenone...

Sure even Bannside isn't from Portglenone  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 11:27:19 AM
Bannside is out of Ballymena more years than I've lived 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 11:27:19 AM
Bannside is out of Ballymena more years than I've lived 🤣🤣

Blow in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2021, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 11:12:30 AM
Not sure what you are getting at tommy?

Not you lol. Maybe i am reading another user name wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 27, 2021, 11:51:13 AM
Roger how can anyone on here say with straight face that Casements dont have an issue with their discipline. Need i remind you of the St.Johns games a few years back where you had to play them in neutral venues the following year. Was your commitee not warned that you could be facing fines for any more misconduct to the sum of 5k or something?

Yes Niall did elbow the guy from Cloney in the face. although the guy sucked Niall into making the contact Niall just couldnt help himself.

Mark my words, Casements v Aghagallon will be like a scene from a western bar fight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 12:42:43 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 27, 2021, 11:51:13 AM
Roger how can anyone on here say with straight face that Casements dont have an issue with their discipline. Need i remind you of the St.Johns games a few years back where you had to play them in neutral venues the following year. Was your commitee not warned that you could be facing fines for any more misconduct to the sum of 5k or something?

Yes Niall did elbow the guy from Cloney in the face. although the guy sucked Niall into making the contact Niall just couldnt help himself.

Mark my words, Casements v Aghagallon will be like a scene from a western bar fight.

😂😂

There'll be no rows in that game. Both teams have no beef with each other. A good hard honest game with Portglenone having a strong second half to win by a bucketful will be the way it goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 12:43:52 PM
The other game will be the one to watch. I hope they have a strong referee for that one! Maybe a wee grumpy bald fella with a plaster on the back of the head is the man for the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 12:55:42 PM
Niall McK DID NOT elbow an ahoghill man fact. As for discipline that St John's thing was an isolated incident! Can't remember any history with Aghagallon but yes a place in the final to be tanked by Cargin is enough incentive!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 01:06:35 PM
I live in the real world!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 27, 2021, 01:08:02 PM
Roger is a master of the mind games, a Jose of the GAA world
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 27, 2021, 01:28:15 PM
Some absolute bull talked on here, I'll be back when Cargin leave the stage. Could be this Sunday, could be 2 weeks, could be 2 weeks after that..... I hope its a quality championship that new exiting players emerge from. We'll see how it pans out. D.I.E you can give us your verdict afterwards from someone looking on from the outside (25 plus miles away)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 27, 2021, 01:30:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 27, 2021, 01:28:15 PM
Some absolute bull talked on here, I'll be back when Cargin leave the stage. Could be this Sunday, could be 2 weeks, could be 2 weeks after that..... I hope its a quality championship that new exiting players emerge from. We'll see how it pans out. D.I.E you can give us your verdict afterwards from someone looking on from the outside (25 plus miles away)
Am I due expenses too?

How much per mile would you take? I think the going rate is a tenner a mile
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2021, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 12:43:52 PM
The other game will be the one to watch. I hope they have a strong referee for that one! Maybe a wee grumpy bald fella with a plaster on the back of the head is the man for the job.

;D ;D Plasters are off  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 27, 2021, 02:04:35 PM
Casements are not appealing against the red card shown to ND on Sunday. 50/50 game, let the best team win on the day.  End of. Who do you all fancy for the big game of the day, the battle of the big two?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 27, 2021, 02:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 27, 2021, 02:04:35 PM
Casements are not appealing against the red card shown to ND on Sunday. 50/50 game, let the best team win on the day.  End of. Who do you all fancy for the big game of the day, the battle of the big two?

Cargin by 8, PG1 by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 02:13:58 PM
Cargin by 6, Aghagallon by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 27, 2021, 02:46:18 PM
True my good friend i seen the 2nd half of the dunloy game and as the stingy f****r i am i didnt have to purchase a ticket. what else would you be at on a Sunday?

BS if ND didnt mean what he was sent off for... why would he not appeal it? Does Casements think they have enough in the tank without their county man to beat aghagallon and hopefully get ND back for final?

Interested to see how it all pans out in a short timeframe.

Cargin by 2
Casements v Aghagallon extra time... Caements by 2 with field fight afterwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 27, 2021, 02:51:15 PM
cargin by 5
tnn by 2
comghalls by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 03:20:35 PM
Cargin by 10 point
PG1 to beat us by 7 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 27, 2021, 03:26:36 PM
Cargin @ a canter pulling up- by 13

PG1 by6

All Saints by 1 and a controversial incident deciding the game

Rasharkin to cause Antrim more heartache with a 5 point win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 27, 2021, 03:42:43 PM
i was really impressed with Aghagallon against st brigids , fine team, and if Loughrey is fit they have a real match winner. Just cant see pg1 doing it, big niall is inconsistent, the kelly boys are on the bench for why i dont know, hagan and doherty good players but no guile at all, think st marys will have too much noose and physicality for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2021, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 12:43:52 PM
The other game will be the one to watch. I hope they have a strong referee for that one! Maybe a wee grumpy bald fella with a plaster on the back of the head is the man for the job.

;D ;D Plasters are off  ;D

Tell the lads what happened you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 07:33:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 27, 2021, 02:04:35 PM
Casements are not appealing against the red card shown to ND on Sunday. 50/50 game, let the best team win on the day.  End of. Who do you all fancy for the big game of the day, the battle of the big two?

Plenty of strength on the bench. One of your best players from the past few years came on as a sub against LD. I think Portglenone has a better chance of beating Cargin than Creggan. But it will take an off day for anyone to beat Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 09:20:27 PM
Couldn't disagree more. Our bench is a source of worry for me, if you are referring to Paddy Kelly, I wouldn't say he has been our top player in previous years.
As for you trying a bit of cute hoorism about who pg1 would want to play in final, come of it! Who would Aghagallon prefer would be a better tact for you.
For what it is worth were we to eventually qualify for final, I would prefer Creggan all day long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 27, 2021, 10:12:51 PM
Are PG1 the only team in lasT 4 not paying an outside manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2021, 10:14:18 PM
Jesus you are obsessed ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 27, 2021, 10:20:33 PM
I think you'll find PG1 are paying an outside man! On that however their own man they have on the line is a liability to them, I heard a man saying when Roger Casement passed away he left the club to Owen Doc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on October 27, 2021, 10:23:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2021, 10:14:18 PM
Jesus you are obsessed ;D
Consistent ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 27, 2021, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 27, 2021, 10:12:51 PM
Are PG1 the only team in lasT 4 not paying an outside manager?


Barry Dillon the yellow bellies manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 27, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 09:20:27 PM
Couldn't disagree more. Our bench is a source of worry for me, if you are referring to Paddy Kelly, I wouldn't say he has been our top player in previous years.
As for you trying a bit of cute hoorism about who pg1 would want to play in final, come of it! Who would Aghagallon prefer would be a better tact for you.
For what it is worth were we to eventually qualify for final, I would prefer Creggan all day long.

I meant PG1 have a better chance of beating Cargin than Creggan do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 27, 2021, 10:50:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 27, 2021, 10:12:51 PM
Are PG1 the only team in lasT 4 not paying an outside manager?

Are kickhams paying? I know they have outside manager but was told he wasn't being paid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 27, 2021, 10:56:30 PM
Hard to criticise a man who gives up so much time for his club, agree he can be hot headed but his passion can not be questioned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2021, 07:10:14 AM
I changed my mind. I saw a Ferrari round the side of one of their houses the other day ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2021, 08:26:40 AM
That's an interesting one alright. Wonder will it do anything to break the dominance at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2021, 08:39:05 AM
 ;D

They are one of few teams I think we would have a shot at in the championship which I am not sure speaks volumes for at least current standing!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 09:23:53 AM
Unless Devlin is leaving with Cassidy then Cargin will continue business as usual, he is the real brains and drive behind that set up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2021, 09:38:10 AM
I think the guy on the down section makes lots of stuff up anyway so I wouldn't be so sure yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 28, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
Was talking to Damien recently. He was good craic to be fair, he rates Ronan Devlin very highly indeed. A solution for every problem, breaking ball a speciality. Very well liked by the players too which is important too. Obviously a good synergy between them, so IF Damien is going anywhere, I'd be very surprised if Ronan isn't in his backroom team.

Having said that, if he wins another cship with Cargin why would he leave? Handy bonus every year with little travel and limited opposition.  Why would he trade that for the Down job? I'd be most surprised if there was any legs in this one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 28, 2021, 08:31:44 PM
Down have aspirations (rightly or wrongly) to be top dogs, it's in their nature and with all due respect to Damian et al, I don't think winning 3 Antrim championships would suddenly thrust you in to their thoughts. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 08:53:18 PM
Any truth that Delargy has been successful in his appeal tonight, just heard it from a Cargin man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 28, 2021, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 28, 2021, 08:31:44 PM
Down have aspirations (rightly or wrongly) to be top dogs, it's in their nature and with all due respect to Damian et al, I don't think winning 3 Antrim championships would suddenly thrust you in to their thoughts. Could be wrong.

Pretty sure Cargin wasnt his first gig....

I think, tho it was never fully proven, he used to post on here. Some the older guys might remember...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2021, 09:30:47 PM
Did he not manage Derry at one point or am I wrong? He definitely did the rounds in Tyrone for a long time.

Anyway I suspect there'll probably not be that much truth in it anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 28, 2021, 09:40:30 PM
Derry alright and club championships at Bellaghy Clonoe and Cargin. No shortage of silverware on the CV.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 09:41:14 PM
That was Barton who managed Doire not Cassidy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 09:43:29 PM
Cassidy was Doire U21s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 28, 2021, 09:54:37 PM
No he managed their seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 09:59:34 PM
Assistant manager but not manager in his own right, like you right now at PG1 Owen https://gaaboard.com/board/Smileys/default/tongue.gif
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 10:08:15 PM
Apologies I forgot those glory years of Doire football, jeez mad  to think that Kevin has been about so much but has no desire to manage his own club, must be Ukrainian loot discipline putting him off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 28, 2021, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: Peter john on October 28, 2021, 10:19:15 PM
Anyone hearing from that Ballymena man is to take antrim U20 job

Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 29, 2021, 02:54:05 PM
A likely story! You hear a lot in the tap house these days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on October 29, 2021, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 28, 2021, 08:53:18 PM
Any truth that Delargy has been successful in his appeal tonight, just heard it from a Cargin man

No truth. Portglenone did not appeal the decision so Delargy will not be playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 29, 2021, 08:53:40 PM
All saints 8/11, Randalstown 11/8, if I was that way inclined I'd be lumping on Ballymena.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 29, 2021, 09:18:32 PM
This is a 50/50 game if ever I saw one
if it was a league game at either venue it would be 50/50
Throw in a championship final at a neutral venue ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 29, 2021, 09:26:06 PM
Fancy TNN at 13/8.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 29, 2021, 09:50:43 PM
In my opinion Ballymena have to many stand out players. Randalstown won a league with no relegation so I would have question marks regarding that. Stewart, McAleer  McReynolds, McCarry to be too much for Rtown to handle, if Bmena push up rtown will have to go long and that plays into McVeighs hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 08:52:08 AM
Agreed PJ some handy footballers listed there, should be a good game. Looking forward to getting the auld bib and pretending to be a steward!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 30, 2021, 11:03:00 AM
PG, Cargin and AS treble for me.

PG momentum must be strong and running power will be just too much for Aghagallon.

Living close enough to the area, AS been pushing on the door for last 2 or 3 years now and have full panel to pick from for first time in long time, too much individual ability I think for TNN.

All games be 2 or 3 points in it though.

Another great weekend of football ahead!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2021, 11:11:43 AM
Class weekend of football, Derry and Tyrone semi finals to add to the mix! Not making any predictions, all games I see look fairly even and there will be a favourite turned over somewhere.

Looking at all the fixtures and for the first time in ages every participating team will be confident of a result. Let the games begin!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 08:51:21 PM
So there you are. Can't decide if Randalstown are much better than I thought or Ballymena are much worse than I thought. Best team on the night won for sure. Side note wellr refereed, not sure if it's cos it didn't have senior championship intensity or he called it as he saw it and called it properly, the two probably go hand in hand!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2021, 09:55:19 PM
Good to see randalstown win that. Bound to have been since early Magill days since they won intermediate- I mind them in seniors earlyish noughties. Ballymena have a few titles anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 30, 2021, 10:20:55 PM
All the lockdown training served them well as last 2 years..  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 30, 2021, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2021, 09:55:19 PM
Good to see randalstown win that. Bound to have been since early Magill days since they won intermediate- I mind them in seniors earlyish noughties. Ballymena have a few titles anyway.

2000 I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 10:41:07 PM
Paddyjohn, I think you are a Ballymena man, not quite sure but if you are insinuating TNN were training when ye weren't then I'm afraid the question would be why were you not?
Number of observations from game,
1. Randalstown much much fitter
2. Ballymena running down blind allyes
3. Ballymena lacked leaders, McViegh should've been a leader but only threw his weight around when game was over, should've been doing that from start imposing himself on game. Really surprised at All Saints failure to get big players on ball. Scotchy?
4. Fair play to Randalstown can see them surviving in senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 10:54:43 PM
Which is complete ballicks, how could rtown get away with it when no other club could?
Take yer beating and try an turn a population of nationalist people bigger than rest of sw put together into a gaa hotbed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:12:31 PM
My argument is given the size of Ballymenas nationalist population they should be sweeping up at sw level, they are barely keeping their heads above water.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 30, 2021, 11:31:48 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:12:31 PM
My argument is given the size of Ballymenas nationalist population they should be sweeping up at sw level, they are barely keeping their heads above water.

Don't know where it goes wrong for all saints. For 30 years they have had great juvenile teams, starting out at u12 beating everyone by a mile but they always seem to loose their way, and by the time minor comes around they are very average. I said that TNN would win this, strong side well coached with plenty of talent still to come through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:34:13 PM
My wee clubs OK we have about 150 in our primary school,  at a rough estimate I'd say Ballymena have 1000 plus, who is thriving?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 30, 2021, 11:37:19 PM
Take it Creggan or Cargin will have a change of jersey for one of them tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:38:24 PM
Well I see pg1 at the bottom level of an upward trajectory not sure Bmena will ever reach that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2021, 11:38:33 PM
The better team won I don't think anyone can dispute that. Very impressed with the way Michael O Kane turned out the winners, hungry and we'll up for the fight. My loyalties were for the Ballymena men obviously but they can have no complaints. I'd have preferred to see Paddy Mc Aleer at 6, that's my only gripe, he's a class act and was wasted roving between 14 and 11. Too good a player to be frozen out of the action for such long periods.

Tir Na Nog will not be out of their depth in division one on tonight's showing and are another SW club on an obvious progress curve. From what I saw tonight they will be there for a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:47:31 PM
About Pg1? Yes I have and I think if you asked Bannside or any neutral observers they would agree that casements have yet to play to their potential this year!
But if we do....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:49:22 PM
Ps I want to reiterate my sentiments of how well the match was officiated tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2021, 11:54:34 PM
Duine.....make no mistake, PG1 are thriving. You can put that in the bank.

I'm around a long time and I like what I see at underage, big time. Quality work going on, results coming down the tracks.

First fruit, SW under 13 champions. Conveyor belt in progress...if anything we are three or four years behind our senior opponents Aghagallon in this regard.  PG1 very comfortable in its own skin with underage quality in its pipeline, enough to suggest the club will be there or thereabouts for quite a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 30, 2021, 11:59:34 PM
Couldn't have put it better Bannside. Should also be pointed that underage is not about trophies! Remember reading a stat that amazed me about how few underage titles crossmaglen had won during their glory years, it was all about player pathway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 12:11:34 AM
Roger, fair play, you're shout out to the referee tonight is worthy of note. Well handled from start to finish. Credit where it's due, you'de given him stick, but tonight he was good and you called it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 12:17:27 AM
It's as simple as this, there were 2 black card offences in that game, there were 2 black cards given! That is all we want consistency, not black card given for one team and yellow for the city sorry other team. Fair play Mr Parkes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 12:34:39 AM
The vast majority of Antrim referees will do it fairly Roger to  be fair. They can all make the odd mistake, but especially amongst the ones refereeing at senior level, they manage to balance things out and keep the respect of the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 12:40:43 AM
Just watched a recording of the tyrone game tonight, Dromore and Trillick and maybe it was just because it was on TV but their looked to be less pulling, dragging and off the ball stuff than in Antrim senior championship. Right or wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 07:14:25 AM
Surely RC this comment should be considered in conjunction with your previous comments last night as to how poor etc Antrim refs are in the senior championship, you allude to pulling dragging off the ball stuff, does this not effect the refs job and performance as that is not controllable for him?

Have to agree Parke had a good game tonight, aided by the fact both teams had the right attitude for the game

Quote from: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 12:40:43 AM
Just watched a recording of the tyrone game tonight, Dromore and Trillick and maybe it was just because it was on TV but their looked to be less pulling, dragging and off the ball stuff than in Antrim senior championship. Right or wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 08:21:36 AM
Totally agree, the pulling and dragging is a load of sh### and I'd love to see it eradicated
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 31, 2021, 02:48:46 PM
Great win for aghagallon, hard luck to portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 03:06:17 PM
Unbelievable! Away home for a lie down!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
Only seeing teh score now. Wow. Well done Jim / Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 03:21:40 PM
PG1 are as the soccer men would say very Spursy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 03:26:37 PM
Just in from match and want to say well done Aghagallon. We can have no excuses for not winning that game, especially having taken a 5 pt lead at beginning of extra time, wrong decision making and poor handling were our down fall. Aghagallon were full of running and their keepers kick outs were outstanding. I actually think they will give the final a good rattle. Good luck to them.
Also it just shows you how good a game of football can be when two teams cut the crap and play ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 03:53:04 PM
Just home and getting ready to head down to the local for a bit of craic with the lads! The game started at 12.30 and wasn't finished until 2.40. There'll be a lot of sore lads tomorrow! I thought we were the better team and the PG1 goalie kept them in it. We should have had a few goals in normal time and missed a penalty as well. Saying that, I thought PG1 were going to pull away in extra time and we showed serious heart and character to come back from that. As roger said, 2 good young teams going at it with no nonsense and every fella on the pitch gave it their all. We will be meeting PG1 again soon! Can't believe it and totally delighted for everyone. Have to say a special mention to Bannside who showed a touch of class long after the game and supporters had cleared, as he waited to say congratulations to the Aghagallon players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 04:18:29 PM
3 fantastic games today by the sound of it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
Big day. Great to see a novel final pairing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 04:16:58 PM
They've done it! There will be a new winner at last!

Does Aghagallon count as South West Antrim or North Armagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 04:36:18 PM
I love how you keep bringing the 55 year thing up as much as you can ;D

It's great to see our championship so competitive again. Too many years of dominance by one team or the other. (Not their fault). Both portglenone and cargin will be back too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 31, 2021, 04:47:17 PM
Sean laverty was excellent again today as ref, the wee baldy guy done well in the other game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 31, 2021, 04:50:16 PM
Anyone a quick synopsis of the Creggan/Cargin game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 31, 2021, 04:47:17 PM
Sean laverty was excellent again today as ref, the wee baldy guy done well in the other game too.

Had the wee angry baldy man any plasters on the back of his head or is he better now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 04:30:09 PM
Whatever you want. You can keep it 1 in 55 or make it 2 in 55.

Just you city boys worry about keeping the game alive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 05:02:06 PM
Hungrier team won and fully deserved to go to final. Theres always a but, the man on the whistle some very questionable decisions particularly the shoulder tackle by Cargin nr 8, textbook stuff. Games hinge on these decisions.
Good luck to both teams in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 31, 2021, 05:20:25 PM
Two great wins today. Fair play to both teams.

Great wins and atmosphere at both, enjoyed it.

Got text there that the regulations were wrong and shouldn't have been a second period of ETz should been straight to penalty kicks after first extra time over. Anyone else heard same ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on October 31, 2021, 05:20:44 PM
Creggan alot more hungrier for sure in the second half Cargin started really well and then stopped playing not sure why !only scored 2 points on second half.
Some strange decision's by ref ,Kobos free for charging? Big Gerard's free for a perfectly timed shoulder and blowing full time with the ball bobbling around in the Creggan box!
But all in all Creggan the better team and got the breaks that you need on a tight championship game to win.
Don't think Cargin will take a backward step from this and we will be back next year hungrier than ever.
Good luck to both teams in the final.
Ps we have a great ground if the Corrigan boys won't hand over the keys!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 05:20:58 PM
Aghagallon could give Creggan a good rattle in the final. I hope they do. Could it be at our place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 05:23:59 PM
Ps it would be grossly unfair on St Mary's if it were to be next weekend.
On another note delighted for Antrim on their junior championship win. Rasharkin have had some fall from grace.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 31, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 31, 2021, 05:20:25 PM
Two great wins today. Fair play to both teams.

Great wins and atmosphere at both, enjoyed it.

Got text there that the regulations were wrong and shouldn't have been a second period of ETz should been straight to penalty kicks after first extra time over. Anyone else heard same ?

That would be correct.
Extra - Extra Time was in place for SFC & SHC  Final Replays only
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 06:07:48 PM
Would this leave the result open to an appeal? That would be messy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 06:15:18 PM
Don't think either team could complain with the extra extra time, both teams gave it a good rattle. Would be bad form from PG1 to appeal it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 06:25:38 PM
Just saw Antrim won the junior. Big win for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 31, 2021, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 31, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 31, 2021, 05:20:25 PM
Two great wins today. Fair play to both teams.

Great wins and atmosphere at both, enjoyed it.

Got text there that the regulations were wrong and shouldn't have been a second period of ETz should been straight to penalty kicks after first extra time over. Anyone else heard same ?

That would be correct.
Extra - Extra Time was in place for SFC & SHC  Final Replays only

Delgany what was the ruling for IFC & JFC finals

Extra Time & straight to penalties?

No Replay or No Extra - Extra Time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 31, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 06:07:48 PM
Would this leave the result open to an appeal? That would be messy.

Club secretaries were told of the finish on the day protocols on 10th Aug ! So I dont that there would be any grounds to appeal it !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 31, 2021, 06:35:02 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 31, 2021, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 31, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on October 31, 2021, 05:20:25 PM
Two great wins today. Fair play to both teams.

Great wins and atmosphere at both, enjoyed it.

Got text there that the regulations were wrong and shouldn't have been a second period of ETz should been straight to penalty kicks after first extra time over. Anyone else heard same ?

That would be correct.
Extra - Extra Time was in place for SFC & SHC  Final Replays only

Delgany what was the ruling for IFC & JFC finals

Extra Time & straight to penalties?

No Replay or No Extra - Extra Time?

IFC /JFC
Extra time and then penalties
No replays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 07:07:32 PM
I see a tweet from a Cargin man about the Ref and then a Rossa man jumps on board giving it large to him.

Can Rossa not provide social media training to members? Makes the club look terrible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 31, 2021, 07:44:45 PM
A few very vocal lads on Twitter like to proclaim to be from the 'Premier' club but act like children
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 31, 2021, 07:44:45 PM
A few very vocal lads on Twitter like to proclaim to be from the 'Premier' club but act like children

Agree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 08:06:40 PM
Who was the grey haired fella number 11 for Aghagallon today? A fine footballer who linked things very well, would be useful in county set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 08:11:06 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 07:49:33 PM
Are we going to address the comments from the Cargin man?

And indeed, paddyjohn, was it not yourself who was being called out on Twitter by Dunloy players due to comments you made on social media about their players??

Of course Cargin people will feel the ref shafted them. What's to address there?

Yes a few Dunloy lads called out my comments about a hurler who played until Un16 with Ballymena and left to hurl for Dunloy. What was wrong in that statement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 08:11:06 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 07:49:33 PM
Are we going to address the comments from the Cargin man?

And indeed, paddyjohn, was it not yourself who was being called out on Twitter by Dunloy players due to comments you made on social media about their players??

Of course Cargin people will feel the ref shafted them. What's to address there?

Yes a few Dunloy lads called out my comments about a hurler who played until Un16 with Ballymena and left to hurl for Dunloy. What was wrong in that statement?
You must have said something that annoyed them enough to come back looking for you after they won the championship. You should try to avoid that. It reflects poorly on both yourself and your club.

Did you see what I wrote?

Some lads just can't handle the truth, isn't that right pal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on October 31, 2021, 08:30:25 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 31, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 06:07:48 PM
Would this leave the result open to an appeal? That would be messy.

Club secretaries were told of the finish on the day protocols on 10th Aug ! So I dont that there would be any grounds to appeal it !

If the finish on the day protocols stated extra time and penalties and that protocol wasn't followed then I would have thought very obvious grounds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2021, 08:44:29 PM
Yeah it is pretty clear cut but hopefully doesn't come to cut.

Some phenomenal scores by Eunan Walsh. Looked to have the game of his life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 08:26:20 PM
Oh I know all too well.

Good to hear you're one of those who can.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 31, 2021, 08:53:06 PM
Been sent the on the day protocols and looks like serious mess up today by county board/secretary?

Serious grounds for appeal for Ports. Real shame for Agahgallon boys if so.

Shows up the incompetence on the county board again.

On another note thought both games were reffed brilliant today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Portglenone won't appeal anything, they will take their defeat on the chin and not look for loopholes as that's how we roll down around these parts. MR2 watch todays game back and explain that 21 yard free you gave to Creggan for the fair shoulder. You talk enough on here about all sorts of stuff you can talk about that. Scandalous. Good thing it's on social media for all to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 09:54:36 PM
Yeah I meant it. Fair bit of difference between calling out poor refereeing decisions and launching an appeal to be reinstated into the championship over a loophole. You understand ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 09:58:31 PM
Already talking to a few men involved with Portglenone and they're not appealing anything. They were beat fair and square today in a great game of football. Nothing to see here. Creggan and Aghagallon have a final to prepare for in two weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 31, 2021, 09:59:08 PM
The final this year will be a breath of fresh air.  Creggan will carry the favourites tag but Aghagallon must be thinking why not. It's the chance of a lifetime now for them if they can keep the head. Well done to Antrim and TNN as well. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:01:32 PM
I believe Casements will be launching an appeal, talk is that  Antrim CC made a balls up of the rules of extra time (after extra time) procedure. It appears CC sent out rules for the cship and didn't apply them. That's what I'm picking up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 10:01:39 PM
So we're not allowed to call out plainly wrong decisions? We'll take it on the chin surely and come back as we always do. What club are you from? My guess is you won't say. Prove me wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:01:32 PM
I believe Casements will be launching an appeal, talk is that  Antrim CC made a balls up of the rules of extra time (after extra time) procedure. It appears CC sent out rules for the cship and didn't apply them. That's what I'm picking up.
Don't embarrass yourselves as a club by doing that BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:05:31 PM
I hear what you say EOC. Just reporting the word on the street around the town tonight. Don't shoot the messenger lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:11:56 PM
Heres my position before this takes on a life of its own. If the rules are carried out in accordance with the guidelines then that's 100%. If Antrim CC made a balls up, take them to the cleaners and demand a rematch. Whatever the rules are, the rules are, there is no middle ground.

If the shoe was in the other foot I would have zero animosity towards Aghagallon for playing that card. Likewise if CC can find wriggle room, then that's ok too. But rules are rules, you can't make them up as you go along! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 10:12:32 PM
The point is it was a critical decision in the result of the game you muppet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 31, 2021, 10:14:16 PM
There is a precedent of the extra time rules not being followed by the letter of the law in Antrim, instigated by the county chairman no less.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 31, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
Is there no accountability for any of these clowns in Antrim ? County Secretary must know where the bodies are buried
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on October 31, 2021, 10:22:26 PM
Ports completely within their rights to appeal.

A county chair/secretary who have shown complete incompetence over the years. Ports have also been victim of not applying rules in a semi final xtra time few years ago.

Does the county secretary hold this post forever ?

Serious investigations and accountability required on them. Almost puppet like at times and we all know who for.

What's the point in having rules if we don't apply them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 10:25:30 PM
So PG1 are appealing because they were beaten after extra extra time and they wanted penalties instead 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 31, 2021, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:01:32 PM
I believe Casements will be launching an appeal, talk is that  Antrim CC made a balls up of the rules of extra time (after extra time) procedure. It appears CC sent out rules for the cship and didn't apply them. That's what I'm picking up.
Don't embarrass yourselves as a club by doing that BS

Agree. Please don't embarrass yourselves and the County.

Both teams played the 5 mins each half and you lost. F me take your medicine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:43:11 PM
No Jim. It appears that the rules of the competition were not adhered to. That's a lot different to what you are implying.

If the rules are broken PG1are within their rights to appeal. I would expect nothing less than St Mary's to do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. You can't make the rules up as you go along. Either it's a rule or it's not. No black or white, it's or buts. And I'm saying that without having one clue about what the rule actually is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Portglenone won't appeal anything, they will take their defeat on the chin and not look for loopholes as that's how we roll down around these parts. MR2 watch todays game back and explain that 21 yard free you gave to Creggan for the fair shoulder. You talk enough on here about all sorts of stuff you can talk about that. Scandalous. Good thing it's on social media for all to see

Was that free in first half or second half?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 10:45:53 PM
Question is would PG1 appeal if Cargin awaited them in the final? I doubt it

Also Dile is there a club out there that promised you a paid job and didn't pay you or something, ffs man would you ever dry uo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:43:11 PM
No Jim. It appears that the rules of the competition were not adhered to. That's a lot different to what you are implying.

If the rules are broken PG1are within their rights to appeal. I would expect nothing less than St Mary's to do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. You can't make the rules up as you go along. Either it's a rule or it's not. No black or white, it's or buts. And I'm saying that without having one clue about what the rule actually is.

Do you personally not think it is ridiculous trying to find a loophole like that to appeal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on October 31, 2021, 10:48:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:43:11 PM
No Jim. It appears that the rules of the competition were not adhered to. That's a lot different to what you are implying.

If the rules are broken PG1are within their rights to appeal. I would expect nothing less than St Mary's to do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. You can't make the rules up as you go along.

BS were PG1 made aware of the finish on the day guidelines as mentioned by Delgany earlier

He seems to indicate secretaries & clubs were made aware

If correct were PG1 officials demanding penalties at the end of extra time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 31, 2021, 10:49:30 PM
Portglenone were evidently happy enough to play the 2nd period of extra time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:50:11 PM
He's talking about a great hit from a Cargin defender about 5 mins from end of Cargin v Creggan. I watched it in a full room,  opinion was evenly divided.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 10:45:53 PM
Question is would PG1 appeal if Cargin awaited them in the final? I doubt it

Also Dile is there a club out there that promised you a paid job and didn't pay you or something, ffs man would you ever dry uo
I'll reiterate both points her CD
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2021, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Flanker on October 31, 2021, 10:48:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2021, 10:43:11 PM
No Jim. It appears that the rules of the competition were not adhered to. That's a lot different to what you are implying.

If the rules are broken PG1are within their rights to appeal. I would expect nothing less than St Mary's to do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. You can't make the rules up as you go along.

BS were PG1 made aware of the finish on the day guidelines as mentioned by Delgany earlier

He seems to indicate secretaries & clubs were made aware

If correct were PG1 officials demanding penalties at the end of extra time?

No. They were happy to play extra extra time. They're really letting themselves down here. I would understand more if we had a clear advantage going into the extra extra time but we didn't. It was winner takes all and we won. Sour grapes after a brilliant game of football. Wise up PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 31, 2021, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 31, 2021, 10:49:30 PM
Portglenone were evidently happy enough to play the 2nd period of extra time.

"We're happy to play here but only if we win. We're going home and  taking our ball"

F me lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 10:55:51 PM
They are Dile however in an earlier post you tried to cry a claim of libel and were off course, in this instance say we applied the law of breach of contract/tort where the remedy from appeal is to put PG1
In the position they would have been bar the breach, therefore the remedy if either 1. Penalties with no other action by either or 2. Accept the result of the basis of quantum merit I.e PG1 got what they deserved with ET played

Also what club owes you?
Quote from: Dine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2021, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 10:45:53 PM
Question is would PG1 appeal if Cargin awaited them in the final? I doubt it

Also Dile is there a club out there that promised you a paid job and didn't pay you or something, ffs man would you ever dry uo
Rules are rules? Just sometimes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 10:57:56 PM
I hear there are a few lads away home early!!!
Not pg1s fault the county board ballsed up. Similarly all those years when a ref didn't play all the injury time in all ireland hurling semi, it wasn't offalys fault!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 11:00:02 PM
RC go to bed pal you were beaten, ffs due with a bit of dignity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on October 31, 2021, 11:07:42 PM
Dile you are chatting  without an once of coherence or logic  what is your remedy for a breach of protocol (not law) for today? Restart the whole championship?

BYW when you get personal you have lost the debate my friend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 08:01:20 AM
It's in the Irish news about PG1 looking the replay. Embarrassing. Take your beaten ffs. They're be no talk of reply if Cargin were in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 01, 2021, 09:06:01 AM
Its a tricky one.

Both teams played by the same rules on the day. Aghagallon gained no advantage from the rules change and won fair and square. Deservedly so, they were the better team.

However if Portglenone have been knocked out of the championship after a period of extra time that should never have take place, you would fully expect them to appeal.

Let's not pretend that there's a single club in the county who wouldn't appeal with a potential county final in the balance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 09:06:10 AM
Who made the call yesterday as to ET was it the ref or county reps?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 09:10:55 AM
Jim i agree that an appeal does look to the outside world as petty, and 100% if the shoe was on the other foot I would be saying the same thing. I'm not on committee for a couple of years now so I am not involved in whatever happens, but I can tell you what the feeling is here, if that at least puts some clarity on the thought process.

IF the rules state that the game should have gone to penalties, then those are the rules. Simple as. For what it's worth we have good penalty takers, scored all 5 in last years shoot out with St Galls. You missed your penalty yesterday in normal time. Had it gone to penalties I would have been very confident, and PG1 may well have been in a county final.

Someone decreed that it shouldn't have gone to penalties, that may or may not have been a mistake. Let's see what the rules say. Casements should not be put in the position where it may have lost out because of an administrative error.

Also, for what it's worth, you were the better team. You cut us wide open several times for goal chances, we could not make that happen at the other end. Unless there is major surgery to our defence you will still come out top if a rematch is needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 09:16:52 AM
The game should have gone to penalties, replay, end of! Not the fault of either club but stupidity from Antrim GAA officials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 09:16:52 AM
The game should have gone to penalties, replay, end of! Not the fault of either club but stupidity from Antrim GAA officials.
If as indicated earlier in the thread clubs were made aware of the finish on the day guidelines / rules.... do the clubs officials and managers not have a degree of responsibility to know what they are.

If so is there not a bit of shared stupidity at play.. Easy option is to point the finger....

In more general terms would it not be simpler to have a clear set of rules across all counties for all grades of adult championship games for finish on the day and replay situations. Looking across different levels and counties it appears to be a mix of everything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:35:42 AM
How many periods of Extra time was there in junior final? Feel sorry for Aghagallon and not sure where an appeal sits with me.
But if the rules were not adhered to then we were wronged, could be argued Aghagallon won in ET2 as they were fitter, therefore gained unfair advantage.
Creggan won't be minding any of this btw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 01, 2021, 09:36:13 AM
So PG1 played then period of EET but aren't happy because they didn't win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 09:39:58 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:35:42 AM
How many periods of Extra time was there in junior final? Feel sorry for Aghagallon and not sure where an appeal sits with me.
But if the rules were not adhered to then we were wronged, could be argued Aghagallon won in ET2 as they were fitter, therefore gained unfair advantage.
Creggan won't be minding any of this btw.

Wasnt going to get involved but this is priceless. Aghagallon gained an unfair advantage cause they were fitter. Can we raise a motion to stop all club and individual training next year? This means that no one will have the advantage of being fit. Ill maybe get the boots back out myself actually. Great idea and one Ive been calling for now for a while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
St Comghalls and Rasharkin in junior final played 10 mins extra time and then straight to penalties. But a different logic was applied for senior??

FFS you can't be going round making up your own rules. Someone got this right....and someone got it wrong!! That decision MAY have cost a club a county final appearance.

If shoe was on other foot, would Aghagallon appeal??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
You misunderstand me Mickey, I didn't say that was what happened,  I'm saying that is what could be argued
For what it's worth Aghagallon won because they were better over the 90 plus minutes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 01, 2021, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
St Comghalls and Rasharkin in junior final played 10 mins extra time and then straight to penalties. But a different logic was applied for senior??

FFS you can't be going round making up your own rules. Someone got this right....and someone got it wrong!! That decision MAY have cost a club a county final appearance.

If shoe was on other foot, would Aghagallon appeal??
This is all true BS but if I was you I would use whatever influence you have to not appeal that. From a sporting point of view I think Aghagallon would win a replay anyway through sheer determination as you will have got their goat up so much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
St Comghalls and Rasharkin in junior final played 10 mins extra time and then straight to penalties. But a different logic was applied for senior??

FFS you can't be going round making up your own rules. Someone got this right....and someone got it wrong!! That decision MAY have cost a club a county final appearance.

If shoe was on other foot, would Aghagallon appeal??

Personally BS, I dont think they would. Yesterday was a great sporting game played by 2 good teams. The better team won after an epic encounter. I thought PG1 were very gracious in defeat and wished Aghagallon all the best in the final. Yesterday was a great advertisement for the Antrim club game IMO. 2 very good semi finals. Despite all the doom and gloom around Antrim football recently on this board, yesterday was one of the good days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2021, 09:50:50 AM
If portglenone are feeling so aggravated about this , why did they play the 2nd period of extra time ?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 09:53:13 AM
A county title is on the line here, a county title. I feel for st Mary's but how were the rules not enforced. The rules for finishing on the day are clear. Why does Antrim do it different? A shambles and I thought the county board in Down is bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 09:57:38 AM
So do we just go and have a penalty shootout now or what? f**king wise up. You were beaten fair and square. No one complained until you were beaten. I would 100% not be appealing if the shoe was on the other foot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 10:00:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
St Comghalls and Rasharkin in junior final played 10 mins extra time and then straight to penalties. But a different logic was applied for senior??

FFS you can't be going round making up your own rules. Someone got this right....and someone got it wrong!! That decision MAY have cost a club a county final appearance.

If shoe was on other foot, would Aghagallon appeal??

BS did PG1 have the finish on the day guidelines / rules sent to them

If they didn't fair enough

If they did what were your officials and management doing

Is it a case that everyone had the guidelines / rules sent to them and nobody really looked at them then it looks like everyone sleep walked into the second ET

If this is the case then it looks like everyone was culpable here. Some internal finger pointing required

If you weren't sent the guidelines / rules then it is a bit of a mine field for CC to resolve
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:01:29 AM
If the rules were broke, 100% there is no issue with an appeal. Not Portglenone's fault so don't take it out on them.

If it was the Johnnie's, lamh dhearg, Cargin do you not think they would be appealing? Of course they would, so don't sit there on your high horses.

It's a pity on Aghagallon but they should have no issues getting themselves ready to play  if there is a replay. County final at stake.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
Every club is sent rules and regulations before the commencement of a championship by the county secretary.
I feel for the St Marys boys on here but its not PG1 fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 01, 2021, 10:05:26 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 09:57:38 AM
So do we just go and have a penalty shootout now or what? f**king wise up. You were beaten fair and square. No one complained until you were beaten. I would 100% not be appealing if the shoe was on the other foot.


Agree totally, best team won, ports should have no complaints, going to penalties is no way to decide a game, cant see too many actual players complaining about this or the mgt who i believe stood down after the game, more the pen pushers that have a bee in their bonnet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
Penalties may not be but that's the rules of the competition. Should st comgalls hand back the junior trophy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
Every club is sent rules and regulations before the commencement of a championship by the county secretary.
I feel for the St Marys boys on here but its not PG1 fault.

If PG1 had the correct rules sent to them did they not read them?

Do  clubs not have an allowance of 2 officials inside the wire to keep them right on rules & regulations.... Subs, blood subs and other

If you have been sent the rules and regulations and ignore them..... Well do you not have to have a look internally

If you haven't been given them then that is a different story

With technology now I'm sure any emails with the rules guidelines could have been read quite quickly if you weren't happy with procedings
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:24:23 AM
Did the referee and co board officials at the game not read them?

Again not sure how this is Portglenone's fault
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 10:27:28 AM
Both managers and officials all came together at the end of the game.  It was agreed that 10 mins each way for extra time would be played and then an extra 5 mins each way for extra extra time. Everyone agreed and played the game out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 10:29:34 AM
The biggest shit show is that on the same day the junior final finished in the correct way. Mental stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2021, 10:31:51 AM
Really this is not what we should be talking about today  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:32:16 AM
Ah now Jim so managers and officials can decide the rules now...
Sure let's toss a coin here lads to see who wins and save the players legs from playing extra time - aghagallon heads or tails?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 01, 2021, 10:37:21 AM
Not PG1's fault, but it's embarrassing that they now cry foul and seek a replay after getting beat fair and square in terms of a contest. Both teams had the same amount of seconds to win the game. Neither team flagged up an issue with playing extra-extra time, both teams shook hands and left the field after a fantastic contest. Move on. Seeking a replay now on a technicality is seriously distasteful. I would expect better from PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 01, 2021, 10:38:03 AM
Shambles.  I'll say again, no wonder we're a county who others look down at.  Laughing stock, don't even know our own rules in the semi final of our show piece competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 10:39:17 AM
When the County Chairman walked onto the pitch and stopped Paddy Cunningham from kick the ball during the kick off against PG1, that wasn't in the rules that night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 10:48:05 AM
Whilst technically PG1 nay be correct in terms of the game not being finished after the 2x10 mins, they should surely accept that they were given the same opportunity to win/loose the game as Aghagallon!

I do not think PG1 will gain many friends with an appeal (not that they will care about gaining friends), however in the last few years, this year especially they seem to have turned into an awful club for crying foul when beaten, if it isn't a referee its a technicality, not down to the fact that the management for most left a man to mark Eunan Walsh who was no where near him. Yes a technical error was made but that wasn't the beating of PG1.

PG1 have some grace and use it as fire in the belly for next year, if you do seek a replay I hope Aghagallon win that also   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 01, 2021, 10:48:45 AM
Hopefully common sense prevails and Aghagallon can proceed to the final without the need for a replay.

Even if the protocol was not correct, Aghagallon gained no advantage over Casements. Aghagallon were the better team on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:24:23 AM
Did the referee and co board officials at the game not read them?


Again not sure how this is Portglenone's fault

That may be correct but PG1 officials and management have a responsibility to read them as well

It looks like no one read them so everyone culpable including Aghagallen

It doesn't sound like PG1 had any objections to proceedings which is understandable.

I don't think any Official, manager or player would refuse a second tranche of ET over going to penalties straight after the first period if given that opportunity. (Well maybe BS with PG1's excellent penalty takers).

So everyone culpable, agreed proceedings...aftee the outcome finger pointing starts

If you didn't get the guidlines/ rules then different story

If you did then you were sleeping at the wheel

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 01, 2021, 10:50:39 AM
Typical Antrim having to make a name for themselves for all the wrong reasons.

A. Playing that semi final up in St.Endas with a mile walk to get to the pitch
B. messing up extra time in a SFC semi

Only in Antrim  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 01, 2021, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: Caesar on November 01, 2021, 10:48:45 AM
Hopefully common sense prevails and Aghagallon can proceed to the final without the need for a replay.

Even if the protocol was not correct, Aghagallon gained no advantage over Casements. Aghagallon were the better team on the day.

I would agree with this perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 10:52:27 AM
Have PG1 ever won a senior football championship? The game was finished incorrectly therefore a good grounds for appeal. I would imagine there will be a big meeting in PG1 tonight? 72 hours usually to enforce an appeal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:57:13 AM
Co Board/Co Officials have made the mistake. Not Portglenone.

Will it be free admission to the replay since co boards mistake?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 10:59:32 AM
it's up to the co-board to enforce the rules, the junior final finished on penos in the correct manner. The senior semi should have went to penalties, a replay is what should happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 10:57:13 AM
Co Board/Co Officials have made the mistake. Not Portglenone.

Will it be free admission to the replay since co boards mistake?

Did you get the guidelines?

Did your officials / Management read them?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 01, 2021, 11:03:58 AM
Whose fault was it that it was handled incorrectly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 11:19:10 AM
Was a great game of football to watch from a neutral point of view. Understand where PG1 are coming from but looks to just be a case of sour grapes. Both teams had the same chance to win, no team had an advantage. Both seemed to agree on how it was played out. Why didnt PG1 say to match officials or county representatives before 2nd period of ET? PG1 should just take their medicine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 11:19:33 AM
Lads I'm torn here tbh. Just because I'm telling you the view coming out if Portglenone does not mean this sits easy with me. We know we were beaten on the field, Aghagallon were better than us on the day (one point after 100 minutes) and I genuinely wished them well after the match. A good club with good people. I'd say a lot of clubs would be conflicted by this, just happens to be us atm.

If I had to vote one way or the other on it, I really couldn't be sure. There needs to be integrity in sport, that I don't doubt. I also offer the view that if the rules had been upheld (assuming they were not) then Casements MAY have had a better opportunity to win the game.

But I don't get a vote, my opinion will not make one difference. This is a discussion forum, nothing gets sorted out here. Let the big wigs sort it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 11:20:43 AM
Brendan Crossan gets half his stories from here sure!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 11:23:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 11:19:33 AM
Lads I'm torn here tbh. Just because I'm telling you the view coming out if Portglenone does not mean this sits easy with me. We know we were beaten on the field, Aghagallon were better than us on the day (one point after 100 minutes) and I genuinely wished them well after the match. A good club with good people. I'd say a lot of clubs would be conflicted by this, just happens to be us atm.

If I had to vote one way or the other on it, I really couldn't be sure. There needs to be integrity in sport, that I don't doubt. I also offer the view that if the rules had been upheld (assuming they were not) then Casements MAY have had a better opportunity to win the game.

But I don't get a vote, my opinion will not make one difference. This is a discussion forum, nothing gets sorted out here. Let the big wigs sort it out.

If you have the cup in your cup ina few weeks, integrity does not come into it unfortunately, every club in Ireland would do the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 11:19:33 AM
Lads I'm torn here tbh. Just because I'm telling you the view coming out if Portglenone does not mean this sits easy with me. We know we were beaten on the field, Aghagallon were better than us on the day (one point after 100 minutes) and I genuinely wished them well after the match. A good club with good people. I'd say a lot of clubs would be conflicted by this, just happens to be us atm.

If I had to vote one way or the other on it, I really couldn't be sure. There needs to be integrity in sport, that I don't doubt. I also offer the view that if the rules had been upheld (assuming they were not) then Casements MAY have had a better opportunity to win the game.

But I don't get a vote, my opinion will not make one difference. This is a discussion forum, nothing gets sorted out here. Let the big wigs sort it out.

You know the right thing is that Pg1 take their beaten fair and square. Like we would have done if it went the other way. The Pg1 boys were in the pub yesterday after the game and when Creggan won someone has decided to go with the loophole. Everyone in the ground were happy enough with the 5 mins extra extra time, including antrim officials, both management, players and referee and his team. It is very sour grapes and really takes the taste off the whole thing for us. Hopefully common sense prevails but we all know about the GAA and loopholes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 11:23:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 11:19:33 AM
Lads I'm torn here tbh. Just because I'm telling you the view coming out if Portglenone does not mean this sits easy with me. We know we were beaten on the field, Aghagallon were better than us on the day (one point after 100 minutes) and I genuinely wished them well after the match. A good club with good people. I'd say a lot of clubs would be conflicted by this, just happens to be us atm.

If I had to vote one way or the other on it, I really couldn't be sure. There needs to be integrity in sport, that I don't doubt. I also offer the view that if the rules had been upheld (assuming they were not) then Casements MAY have had a better opportunity to win the game.

But I don't get a vote, my opinion will not make one difference. This is a discussion forum, nothing gets sorted out here. Let the big wigs sort it out.

If you have the cup in your cup ina few weeks, integrity does not come into it unfortunately, every club in Ireland would do the same.

and a big asterisk beside that win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on November 01, 2021, 11:31:24 AM
Normally regulations will say 'Finish on the Day' but may not be explicit in terms of how many periods of extra time are required. People expect that penalties would be the final determining factor to get a result. How many periods of extra time could then be left open to interpretation if not completely made clear in the regulations.

Presumably some official at the Junior final got it right, at someone in the senior game got it wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 11:32:05 AM
I feel for you and your club Jim, unfortunately, I can only see one way this is going and its replay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 01, 2021, 11:03:58 AM
Whose fault was it that it was handled incorrectly?
I think everyone is in agreement that it was handled incorrectly and a mistake was made.

Most people would agree that what happened did not favour either team.

It appears that officials, management  & players were happy with proceedings at the time

It appears that everyone was accepting of the result after what was an enthralling and sporting contest.

If the guidelines rules were distributed correctly and club officials management didn't read them or ignored them then sometimes you have to hold your hand up and say we weren't as diligent as we could have been.

Most people believe that games should be sorted in the field unless there is a major injustice.

In this case there was an error / mistake made ( by all 3 parties)

This didn't favour anyone and all parties were happy at the time.

Yes a mistake was made, lessons can be learn't by all parties
Culpability accross the board and Antrim CC ultimately carry the can.

Most people other than PG1 on the board seem to be of the view that it would be poor form to waive the rule book given the 90 minutes played.

It is a pity that it happened given the  games over the weekend with a lot of competitive games an a lot of interest generated.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 01, 2021, 11:40:16 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
St Comghalls and Rasharkin in junior final played 10 mins extra time and then straight to penalties. But a different logic was applied for senior??

FFS you can't be going round making up your own rules. Someone got this right....and someone got it wrong!! That decision MAY have cost a club a county final appearance.

If shoe was on other foot, would Aghagallon appeal??

Personally BS, I dont think they would. Yesterday was a great sporting game played by 2 good teams. The better team won after an epic encounter. I thought PG1 were very gracious in defeat and wished Aghagallon all the best in the final. Yesterday was a great advertisement for the Antrim club game IMO. 2 very good semi finals. Despite all the doom and gloom around Antrim football recently on this board, yesterday was one of the good days.

There were three  seperate 'rulings' for tied games

1. SFC konck out games  - Extra time .Then penalties.
2. SFC Final - Extra time  10 mins each way . Then a replay.
3. SFC Final REPLAY - Extra Time ( 10mins) , then Extra time if 5 mins e.w. Then Penalties.

IFC /JFC - all games - extra time, followed by penalties.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 01, 2021, 11:42:48 AM
I was told last night that the procedure for ET and EET and then pens were issued to clubs should this situation occur.
Also told that this would only apply to senior championship and hence junior went to ET and penalties. Bit of a c**k up all round though but don't think PG1 have grounds for an appeal and IMHO should not take this forward. Also the lads in work from City clubs are laughing at the SW over this. Embarrassing.
On another note great result for Creggan finally putting Cargin to the sword.
Didn't see the game but assume Creggan had more hunger in the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 11:57:28 AM
City clubs laughing at the SW clubs over this? You telling me that if St Galls, LD etc were in the same position as PG1 they would be greeting (NB I do not think PG1 should follow with an appeal)

Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 01, 2021, 11:42:48 AM
I was told last night that the procedure for ET and EET and then pens were issued to clubs should this situation occur.
Also told that this would only apply to senior championship and hence junior went to ET and penalties. Bit of a c**k up all round though but don't think PG1 have grounds for an appeal and IMHO should not take this forward. Also the lads in work from City clubs are laughing at the SW over this. Embarrassing.
On another note great result for Creggan finally putting Cargin to the sword.
Didn't see the game but assume Creggan had more hunger in the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
City clubs laughing at SW clubs. Did I read that right?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
It's a county wide championship - there's nothing to laugh at between city and country. Don't know why anyone would think otherwise...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 12:02:42 PM
City clubs? I've had texts from GAA men from all over Ulster laughing at this mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2021, 12:04:15 PM
I actually fancied pg1 more in the extra extra time. I thought they had a stronger bench yesterday and it was a great opportunity for them. The eet suited PG1 more yesterday and that is possibly why they didn't spit the dummy out at the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 01, 2021, 12:15:57 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 01, 2021, 11:42:48 AM
I was told last night that the procedure for ET and EET and then pens were issued to clubs should this situation occur.
Also told that this would only apply to senior championship and hence junior went to ET and penalties. Bit of a c**k up all round though but don't think PG1 have grounds for an appeal and IMHO should not take this forward. Also the lads in work from City clubs are laughing at the SW over this. Embarrassing.
On another note great result for Creggan finally putting Cargin to the sword.
Didn't see the game but assume Creggan had more hunger in the day.
SW Clubs are laughing at you lads for a more serious reason, there will barely be a division 1 club form the city bar St Brigids in the next 5 years the way its going. St Galls, St Johns, L Dhearg unfortunately for these clubs the only way is down the way they are heading. This is no good for Antrim as a whole but it is true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 01, 2021, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 01, 2021, 12:15:57 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 01, 2021, 11:42:48 AM
I was told last night that the procedure for ET and EET and then pens were issued to clubs should this situation occur.
Also told that this would only apply to senior championship and hence junior went to ET and penalties. Bit of a c**k up all round though but don't think PG1 have grounds for an appeal and IMHO should not take this forward. Also the lads in work from City clubs are laughing at the SW over this. Embarrassing.
On another note great result for Creggan finally putting Cargin to the sword.
Didn't see the game but assume Creggan had more hunger in the day.
SW Clubs are laughing at you lads for a more serious reason, there will barely be a division 1 club form the city bar St Brigids in the next 5 years the way its going. St Galls, St Johns, L Dhearg unfortunately for these clubs the only way is down the way they are heading. This is no good for Antrim as a whole but it is true

Dont know about that!! St galls have a fine U20 team at the moment, should have played alot more of them in their seniors tbh, st pauls have serious competitive teams the whole way up to u20.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 01, 2021, 12:52:47 PM
Can't see how this happened. All clubs notified on 10th August of finish on the day protocols, read them this morning again and it's clear it should of went to pens.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 12:56:24 PM
While the clubs may have been sent it does anyone know if Sean Lavery or his linesmen were sent it? At a point yesterday you had a ref, 2 linesmen, a 4th official, your man McDonald and that boy from LD all standing with ear pieces in so were all 'officials' i presume (on that point why so many of them?), so question stands were they sent the finish on the day protocol?

Quote from: Stillwater2 on November 01, 2021, 12:52:47 PM
Can't see how this happened. All clubs notified on 10th August of finish on the day protocols, read them this morning again and it's clear it should of went to pens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 01, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
Always wondered what that boy from LD doing inside the wire with an ear piece in. Anto is it? Anyone know what his role on match days is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 01:22:00 PM
Casements have not lodged an appeal. They have simply sent an email to Antrim competition controls committee to seek clarity from them on the matter. It should be pointed out that historically the GAA is a rules based organisation, and what happened yesterday looks to have fallen foul of the rulebook. The feedback from Antrim CCC will be critical in this matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 01:25:36 PM
It wasn't rule based when the County Chairman stopped the free kicks the other year involving PG1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2021, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 01:22:00 PM
Casements have not lodged an appeal. They have simply sent an email to Antrim competition controls committee to seek clarity from them on the matter. It should be pointed out that historically the GAA is a rules based organisation, and what happened yesterday looks to have fallen foul of the rulebook. The feedback from Antrim CCC will be critical in this matter.

BS do you not see the irony here in portglenone agreeing to play the extra extra time then make a complaint after? Looks like a bad loser in all honesty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 01:28:14 PM
There was also a balls up with extra time that year Jim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 01:30:47 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 01:28:14 PM
There was also a balls up with extra time that year Jim.

All the more reason I would have thought PG1 would have been on top of it yesterday, looks like they fancied ET and are now whinging as it didn't go their way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 01, 2021, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 01:25:36 PM
It wasn't rule based when the County Chairman stopped the free kicks the other year involving PG1.

That was just someone's ego getting the better of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 01:34:45 PM
We are going around in circles here, by agreeing to play extra extra time both sides if they were aware of the actual regulations were leaving themselves open for this in the event of a defeat/victory either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 01:37:51 PM
Would Delargy be eligible to play the replay? What if Pg1 win and delargy puts in a MOTM performance ( which he is well capable off) would aghagallon then be looking another replay on the basis that the 1st game would be effectively ruled as void. Lick your wounds and move on lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 01, 2021, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 01, 2021, 01:37:51 PM
Would Delargy be eligible to play the replay? What if Pg1 win and delargy puts in a MOTM performance ( which he is well capable off) would aghagallon then be looking another replay on the basis that the 1st game would be effectively ruled as void. Lick your wounds and move on lads.

Cat amongst pigeons.. 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 02:11:38 PM
he will be allowed to play if replayed as a drawn game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 02:12:35 PM
Interesting statement from St Mary's posted on social media there, first strike in public
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ernesto on November 01, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
Have we all been misdirecting ourselves in this discussion to an extent.

Surely the point of responsibility lies with the senior official (and custodian of the regulations, ultimately) who appears to direct all parties in a few moments on the pitch as to what happens next. Who, in fairness, given the context - on the pitch, an expectant crowd, Jerome's camera rolling - could or would argue ad infinitum.

Now, given that the official, allegedly, has given an incorrect reading of the regulations on the day, it falls to the competition organisers to review this episode and rule.

Neither club are going to gain from this and indeed it is quite unfair that the spotlight has swung around onto them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 02:31:50 PM
the CCC by the letter of the law should enforce a replay
it's not nice but if they want to enforce the rules then they have only one option, its very hard on St Marys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 02:35:46 PM
Whatever the outcome is, Portglenone will have lost a huge amount of respect. They are a great club with great people but they have let themselves down a bucketful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 02:38:01 PM
By 'Senior official' are you referring to the referee or one of the other ear piece wearing brigade on the sideline?

Quote from: Ernesto on November 01, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
Have we all been misdirecting ourselves in this discussion to an extent.

Surely the point of responsibility lies with the senior official (and custodian of the regulations, ultimately) who appears to direct all parties in a few moments on the pitch as to what happens next. Who, in fairness, given the context - on the pitch, an expectant crowd, Jerome's camera rolling - could or would argue ad infinitum.

Now, given that the official, allegedly, has given an incorrect reading of the regulations on the day, it falls to the competition organisers to review this episode and rule.

Neither club are going to gain from this and indeed it is quite unfair that the spotlight has swung around onto them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 01, 2021, 03:06:05 PM
Quote from: Ernesto on November 01, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
Have we all been misdirecting ourselves in this discussion to an extent.

Surely the point of responsibility lies with the senior official (and custodian of the regulations, ultimately) who appears to direct all parties in a few moments on the pitch as to what happens next. Who, in fairness, given the context - on the pitch, an expectant crowd, Jerome's camera rolling - could or would argue ad infinitum.

Now, given that the official, allegedly, has given an incorrect reading of the regulations on the day, it falls to the competition organisers to review this episode and rule.

Neither club are going to gain from this and indeed it is quite unfair that the spotlight has swung around onto them.
It's a balls up, but I think it is an issue because Portglenone it would seem are making it an issue.  A classic case of rule book versus sportsmanship.  They may win an appeal but are tarnishing their good reputation in doing so, because at the end of the day they were beaten fair and square on the pitch in a fair fight.  They really should drop the matter rather than seek to hang in on a technicality.  Come back bigger and better next year would earn them a lot more respect.  Sorry to BS and RC but you should rise above these things, even if it hurts badly. You're long enough in the tooth to know that.  Your chairman and secretary didn't step in when they should have.  It should be gone now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 03:08:47 PM
Lets be honest about this. Portglenone should be completely embarrassed today (Im sure many of their players and supporters are). Surely common sense will prevail and the final will go ahead with the 2 teams there on merit but Portglenone have lost a huge deal of respect from within the county and beyond. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 03:10:54 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 03:08:47 PM
Lets be honest about this. Portglenone should be completely embarrassed today (Im sure many of their players and supporters are). Surely common sense will prevail and the final will go ahead with the 2 teams there on merit but Portglenone have lost a huge deal of respect from within the county and beyond.

Rules will always prevail,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:16:03 PM
Portglenone have not lodged an appeal. Whether they do so or not will depend on the outcome of the request for clarity in the matter to Antrim CCC. That outcome can dictate what happens next. I've talked to quite a few people about this today, and many of them are happy to walk away from this. The remainder are adamant that if we were through on the back of a technical misjudgement, they would fully expect the other club to lodge an objection.

It isn't sitting easy with me at all, that's being very honest.

The senior official who overruled Sean Laverty will either have an ace card up his sleeve or will be mightily embarrassed by the mess he has created. Ego is a terrible vice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on November 01, 2021, 04:19:10 PM
I think most clubs would submit an appeal, were they in PG1's position.

I also think most people would hope that if an appeal is submitted, it is thrown out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 01, 2021, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:16:03 PM
Portglenone have not lodged an appeal. Whether they do so or not will depend on the outcome of the request for clarity in the matter to Antrim CCC. That outcome can dictate what happens next. I've talked to quite a few people about this today, and many of them are happy to walk away from this. The remainder are adamant that if we were through on the back of a technical misjudgement, they would fully expect the other club to lodge an objection.

It isn't sitting easy with me at all, that's being very honest.

The senior official who overruled Sean Laverty will either have an ace card up his sleeve or will be mightily embarrassed by the mess he has created. Ego is a terrible vice.

Was it the County Secretary who had the final say on the day BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 04:32:45 PM
Exactly. You think Cargan wouldn't if it was in the other semi of course they would.

And all the city clubs would be doing the same.

Going by yesterday's match aghagallon will walk a replay anyway if it did materialise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 04:38:49 PM
Having read Aghagallons statement it seems that both sets of managers and officials knew the craic. IMO Pg1 dont have a leg to stand on. They were beat fair and square. Extremely poor form shown by pg1, hopefully the clubs hierarchy and senior players step in and put an end to it. Let st marys enjoy their victory. Their actions have overshadowed a fantastic game of football. Both sets of players poured everything they had into it. Just accept the loss lads, your day will no doubt come again in the near future, a great young panel at your disposal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 01, 2021, 04:40:05 PM
How has Frankie Quinn survived so long as secretary ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:16:03 PM
Portglenone have not lodged an appeal. Whether they do so or not will depend on the outcome of the request for clarity in the matter to Antrim CCC. That outcome can dictate what happens next. I've talked to quite a few people about this today, and many of them are happy to walk away from this. The remainder are adamant that if we were through on the back of a technical misjudgement, they would fully expect the other club to lodge an objection.

It isn't sitting easy with me at all, that's being very honest.


The senior official who overruled Sean Laverty will either have an ace card up his sleeve or will be mightily embarrassed by the mess he has created. Ego is a terrible vice.

Sounds like the legal team are in place

Is it fair to say that unless the Senior Official produces an ace PG1 will appeal on a Technicality ?

Where were PG1 senior officials and management at when Sean Laverty was over ruled. Had they not read the guidelines and rules themselves.........If not Why not ?

If you hadn't received them then that is a different scenario

If you have will the PG1 officials get hung out to dry if your appeal is unsuccessful ?

After 100 minutes of football with no real injustice should PG1 not take a step back

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:43:51 PM
An Runai was on the spot. Pairc TV has it for all to see. "It is "alleged" that he overruled the perceived position that Sean Laverty was about to adopt and insisted that 5 extra Ew minutes were required. Turns out that was incorrect advice.

Portglenone arnt the judiciary here. It's up to CCC to police their own competitions. Let's see what they say, they might rule that a replay is required. It's their call atm, not Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:45:46 PM
Would it not be the case that it should be penalties and not a full replay, afterall this is where the bone of contention is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:45:46 PM
Would it not be the case that it should be penalties and not a full replay, afterall this is where the bone of contention is?

Have it in windsor park sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!

I would be deeply embarrassed if shoe was on other foot and Aghagallon lodged an appeal on a technicality had they lost out yesterday. As I said earlier, it was an epic game of football. Both sets of fans were treated to a thrilling afternoon of hard hitting, fair football. Im being 100% serious and honest here. I just cant see how PG1 have a right to feel aggrieved after such a game. Im actually shocked to read some of the comments on here. Surely to God the vast majority of Gaels would feel the same way? I must be badly out of touch of how the game is going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
Couldn't agree more Mickey, nothing to see here as far as I can see or that should be the case


Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!

I would be deeply embarrassed if shoe was on other foot and Aghagallon lodged an appeal on a technicality had they lost out yesterday. As I said earlier, it was an epic game of football. Both sets of fans were treated to a thrilling afternoon of hard hitting, fair football. Im being 100% serious and honest here. I just cant see how PG1 have a right to feel aggrieved after such a game. Im actually shocked to read some of the comments on here. Surely to God the vast majority of Gaels would feel the same way? I must be badly out of touch of how the game is going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:51:04 PM
It is penalties which the argument is about, nothing to do with Soccer as they are also part of our games so I fail to see what your snide comment adds

Quote from: geezer on November 01, 2021, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:45:46 PM
Would it not be the case that it should be penalties and not a full replay, afterall this is where the bone of contention is?

Have it in windsor park sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 04:52:43 PM

A joke....relax


Quote from: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:51:04 PM
It is penalties which the argument is about, nothing to do with Soccer as they are also part of our games so I fail to see what your snide comment adds

Quote from: geezer on November 01, 2021, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 04:45:46 PM
Would it not be the case that it should be penalties and not a full replay, afterall this is where the bone of contention is?

Have it in windsor park sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 01, 2021, 04:58:27 PM
This whole thing is taking away from some great performances over the weekend. St comghals first title in nearly 30 years i believe, great achievement for them, Creggan making mugs of all our predictions and beating Cargin and an Aghagallon team finally delivering on their potential.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 05:17:41 PM
Talk of this replay is no good for any of the 2 (3) teams remaining

Pg1- reputation tarnished
Aghagallon- left in limo having deservedly won on the day
Creggan- a week less to get their game plan perfected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 05:22:06 PM
Co board geezer? Nothing their fault?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 01, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!
I think you're in a bind Bannside.  When you agreed to play the extra extra time you gave your word.  If you appeal, then you break your word.  That would not be good. 
As tempting in the short term as it is to appeal, you should first and foremost uphold your clubs good name.  For years to come you'll be remembered for your next move.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 05:45:11 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 05:22:06 PM
Co board geezer? Nothing their fault?

100%. Shambles to be honest. But at the end of the day both teams agreed on the extra time. Pg1 can have no complaints. They should have raised their concerns at the time. Only my opinion of corse but just think pg1 getting on like a spoilt kid, didnt like the outcome after agreeing to extra time. As i said previous, poor form.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 05:52:09 PM
Sorry since when can a club refuse to play extra time that the referee or county official on the day is saying is to be played?

You are making it out like every club has a choice to play extra time.

I presume Portglenone would have thought that these officials would know the rules.

Ultimately after it shows the rules weren't followed correctly. Not Portglenone or Aghagallons fault
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 01, 2021, 05:54:54 PM
Hopefully whoever are responsible for the balls up are sacked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on November 01, 2021, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!

Not my words, but PG1 is the "big bad wolf" because you are the club in this position.

But the whole idea of an appeal doesn't sit well.

I can't see any outcome other than a "Sorry, we made a mistake." Nor should there be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 06:17:46 PM
Portglenone were beaten fair and square. That's the bit for me. They can't say we had an extra man on or anything during extra time. They were literally beaten by the better team on the day. Now they're trying to get it replayed on a technicality. They should be embarrassed and I've already been talking to 2 fellas from PG1 who think the same! One is still currently on the panel too. I'd say the club is split and a handful of people have been driving this and it's grown legs. Most of the good gaels from PG1 will know they have no reason to appeal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2021, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 01, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!
I think you're in a bind Bannside.  When you agreed to play the extra extra time you gave your word.  If you appeal, then you break your word.  That would not be good. 
As tempting in the short term as it is to appeal, you should first and foremost uphold your clubs good name.  For years to come you'll be remembered for your next move.

This is the crux of it for me. By agreeing to the extra time, portglenone had the same opportunity to win the game as aghagallon.

What this has done is take the shine of what was a terrific game, played in a sporting context throughout.

I'm sure plenty of GAA men in portglenone are of the same opinion that they were beat fair and square on the field of play, and all this pantomime after does is bring the association into disrepute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 01, 2021, 06:19:36 PM
This is no fault of PG or Aghagallon of course.

You can't expect either management to be able to to think at the time if they're following regulations of the finish on the day protocolsz 

They have enough on their plate at that stage.

County board chiefs to blame again. They are a shambles and have been for a long time.

Ports well in their rights to appeal. Don't think I would but understand why they are.

The championship set up and drawn out nature was ridiculous. The lack of support for referees and inability to apply the rules they set. Egotistical puppets
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 06:24:32 PM
I'm hearing the result stands and it's up to PG1 now if they want to go to ulster to appeal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 01, 2021, 06:19:36 PM
This is no fault of PG or Aghagallon of course.

You can't expect either management to be able to to think at the time if they're following regulations of the finish on the day protocolsz 

They have enough on their plate at that stage.

County board chiefs to blame again. They are a shambles and have been for a long time.

Ports well in their rights to appeal. Don't think I would but understand why they are.

The championship set up and drawn out nature was ridiculous. The lack of support for referees and inability to apply the rules they set. Egotistical puppets

It's completely PG1's fault by appealing on such weak grounds. They've made a complete dick of themselves and they've embarrassed the good name of their club. It's a club I'd have had a good bit of respect for but they've definitely took a hit in that department today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
Jim your embarrassing yourself.. Portglenone's fault that officials at a senior championship semi final can't get the rules right.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 01, 2021, 06:47:54 PM
Busiest day ever on the Antrim Gaa thread?

Carry on..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on November 01, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
Jim your embarrassing yourself.. Portglenone's fault that officials at a senior championship semi final can't get the rules right.

As I said I'd understand if we had an advantage in ET. Take a look at Twitter and see who's embarrassing because all I'm seeing is neutrals slating Portglenone. It's sour grapes and trying to get a match they lost replayed on a technicality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 01, 2021, 06:53:42 PM
Official Guide Part 2 - Time
Rule 3.4b   organising committee may arrange the playing of extra time with the agreement of the two teams involved , prior to the commencement of a game .
I believe that this may well be - a get  out clause for those in command !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 06:59:32 PM
Good to see common sense prevailed. Should be a cracking final. Creggan be firm favorites and rightly so. However aghagallon have some cracking forwards and cut through pg1 at ease a few times yesterday. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 01, 2021, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 02:31:50 PM
the CCC by the letter of the law should enforce a replay
it's not nice but if they want to enforce the rules then they have only one option, its very hard on St Marys

f**k you are bustin for a replay

If you win you won't be able to drink out of the hollow cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 01, 2021, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 01, 2021, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
You see I don't know what % of clubs would take it on the chin, and how many would not. It's easy for a club to say it wouldn't until they are in that position.

I appreciate your sentiment Champion. You say most clubs would object, that's interesting.

So IF most clubs would, why would PG1 be the big bad wolf if they do so? Just asking!

I would be deeply embarrassed if shoe was on other foot and Aghagallon lodged an appeal on a technicality had they lost out yesterday. As I said earlier, it was an epic game of football. Both sets of fans were treated to a thrilling afternoon of hard hitting, fair football. Im being 100% serious and honest here. I just cant see how PG1 have a right to feel aggrieved after such a game. Im actually shocked to read some of the comments on here. Surely to God the vast majority of Gaels would feel the same way? I must be badly out of touch of how the game is going

I'm absolutely neutral and absolutely shocked at PG1

All the PG1 on here can say they feel sorry for AGN but they are all busting for a replay

A County win after being beaten fair and square would be asterix filled.  For years teams will be deriding them...."go and appeal it sure" etc

Plenty of sportsmen In Pg1 club will be scundered (embarrassed!!)today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 07:31:35 PM
Gold look this hasn't sat easily with me at any stage, and I'm talking to plenty of others in the club who feel the same way. The Antrim CCC decision makes no difference whatsoever to be honest. The appeal (if it even goes ahead) was always going to be decided at provincial level, having said that, with a very optimistic chance of success. It hasn't come to that yet, tonight will be a period of discussion and reflection.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 01, 2021, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 01, 2021, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 01, 2021, 02:31:50 PM
the CCC by the letter of the law should enforce a replay
it's not nice but if they want to enforce the rules then they have only one option, its very hard on St Marys

f**k you are bustin for a replay

If you win you won't be able to drink out of the hollow cup

Shouldn't be sharing the cup anyway due to covid..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 07:47:08 PM
Too many people jumping to conclusions here. Atm PG1 have solely asked for clarification from Antrims CCC. That's the current state of play. If or when an application is made to appeal to Ulster youse can all get a chance to say what you think of Casements. Until then you'de be best to hold your counsel. Some of you are making the job harder, start calling a lot of names and pontificating when you don't even really know for certain what your own club would do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 07:52:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 07:47:08 PM
Too many people jumping to conclusions here. Atm PG1 have solely asked for clarification from Antrims CCC. That's the current state of play. If or when an application is made to appeal to Ulster youse can all get a chance to say what you think of Casements. Until then you'de be best to hold your counsel. Some of you are making the job harder, start calling a lot of names and pontificating when you don't even really know for certain what your own club would do.

I think the main issue is that is shouldnt have come to this in the 1st place. Pg1 agreed to the extra time and are now debating an appeal because the result didnt go your way. Wouldnt think it will sit well with many gaels. The club should just take the loss and move on. Yous will be back for years to come, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 08:13:44 PM
There's a helluva lot of Gaels in Portglenone agree completely with you Geezer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 08:19:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 08:13:44 PM
There's a helluva lot of Gaels in Portglenone agree completely with you Geezer.

Who's leading this Bannside? As from what I've heard it's not the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 01, 2021, 08:28:41 PM
Management be pushing it. Take them to the final, gets another year and another payday regardless of the final result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 01, 2021, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 01, 2021, 08:28:41 PM
Management be pushing it. Take them to the final, gets another year and another payday regardless of the final result

Did they not step down after yesterday's defeat?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 08:32:28 PM
Its just a shame its came to this after such a fantastic, evenly contested game. Boths teams had the chance to win it in normal and extra time and aghagallon just done enough in the end. Nobody can begrudge st marys place in the final. Portglenone should do the right thing and just leave it, will restore a bit of credibility. Both teams and club officials agreed to the extra time and thats the bottom line really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 08:36:59 PM
I'm sure we will survive Jim lol.
A lot of people passing judgement on this before the facts have been made clear, that will be done in due course!
Whilst we are on the subject of rules, I thought dogs were not allowed in GAA grounds (those that know will know) 😄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 08:46:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 08:19:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 08:13:44 PM
There's a helluva lot of Gaels in Portglenone agree completely with you Geezer.

Who's leading this Bannside? As from what I've heard it's not the players.
Jim if you were at the top table and had received the rules /guidelines hadn't read them and were partially culpable for them not being followed you might be feeling a little uncomfortable and under pressure. Like every club there would be plenty of strong robust characters around PG1 who   are probably pushing hard for an appeal.. do what it takes type attitude. There will be others who take a more considered view and look at the bigger picture. This is probably being played out at present.  The top table sometimes need a bit of time to bring the majority with them. Club politics and interests can make this a delicate balancing act. Things like this can make or break a club for a number of years. Good sense should prevail. Unfortunate that it happened and unfortunate that with social media it got legs very quickly. In years gone by it was easier to sort things out and keep a lid on them.
This all assumes PG1 got the rules /guidelines in the first place. If not then that's a different story
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 08:36:59 PM
I'm sure we will survive Jim lol.
A lot of people passing judgement on this before the facts have been made clear, that will be done in due course!
Whilst we are on the subject of rules, I thought dogs were not allowed in GAA grounds (those that know will know) 😄

That'll be the next of it! A replay ordered due to a dog in the ground! Ironically the dog's name is Frank!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 01, 2021, 08:51:03 PM
Dogs? Go on RC spill what you mean
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 08:36:59 PM
I'm sure we will survive Jim lol.
A lot of people passing judgement on this before the facts have been made clear, that will be done in due course!
Whilst we are on the subject of rules, I thought dogs were not allowed in GAA grounds (those that know will know) 😄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 01, 2021, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 08:36:59 PM
I'm sure we will survive Jim lol.
A lot of people passing judgement on this before the facts have been made clear, that will be done in due course!
Whilst we are on the subject of rules, I thought dogs were not allowed in GAA grounds (those that know will know) 😄

That'll be the next of it! A replay ordered due to a dog in the ground! Ironically the dog's name is Frank!
Does the tail wag it too?

🤐
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
Portglenone GAC will not be making an appeal, as I suspected. The club will make a formal statement tomorrow.

Flanker got it right, it takes a while for things to play out and common sense to prevail. Sincere best wishes to St Mary's in the final.

Frank is an impressive dog, big Ivan has him in some nick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
Portglenone GAC will not be making an appeal, as I suspected. The club will make a formal statement tomorrow.

Flanker got it right, it takes a while for things to play out and common sense to prevail.

Frank is an impressive dog, big Ivan has him in some nick.

What was all the fuss about lads. Sure we knew it was going to be fine 😂
County final to look forward to now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 09:12:28 PM
Good to hear. The correct decision. As i said previous, portglenone will get their shot in the not too distant future.

Could aghagallon do it or will creggan be too strong for them?

Quote from: bannside on November 01, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
Portglenone GAC will not be making an appeal, as I suspected. The club will make a formal statement tomorrow.

Flanker got it right, it takes a while for things to play out and common sense to prevail. Sincere best wishes to St Mary's in the final.

Frank is an impressive dog, big Ivan has him in some nick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:14:52 PM
Should Aghagallon not be thrown out and banned for a year for such a flagrant breach of rules. I thought it was guide dogs only allowed! By the sounds of things he would have shown up with 2 rottweilers had there been a replay.😀😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 01, 2021, 09:18:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:14:52 PM
Should Aghagallon not be thrown out and banned for a year for such a flagrant breach of rules. I thought it was guide dogs only allowed! By the sounds of things he would have shown up with 2 rottweilers had there been a replay.😀😀

😂 we can all relax now! Big Frank hasn't missed a game all year too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:36:59 PM
So now that it has been confirmed that Casements never appealed and pointed a flaw in Antrims procedures, again!! will individuals who made scurrilous comments about the club on social media retract them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2021, 09:59:31 PM
Maybe the reason PG1 decided not to appeal was due to the backlash on social media?

At the end of the day they made the right decision, expected nothing less from a club held in as high esteem as they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 01, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 01, 2021, 09:36:59 PM
So now that it has been confirmed that Casements never appealed and pointed a flaw in Antrims procedures, again!! will individuals who made scurrilous comments about the club on social media retract them?

RC PG1 to be commended on making the right call. Clubs are made up of a wide range of members all with different outlooks and views. To the outside these things look easy but the key is to bring everyone with you in the decision. Not easy to do in 24 hours with social media. Lots of good work being done in PG1. Onwards and upwards over the next few years there's championships to be won with at least 5-6 teams in the mix
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 01, 2021, 10:07:51 PM
Antrims hierarchy breathing a sigh of relief that Portglenone have done the decent thing. Fair play to Portglenone. Antrim and whoever made that call, take a look at yourselves. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 01, 2021, 10:14:46 PM
Maith sibh PG1

I was thinking it could've affected the County team like the 2000 final fallout.

Thank god
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 01, 2021, 10:17:11 PM
The inadvertently issued the wrong document quote from Ports statement is very kind from the club.
A nice way of embarrassing the shambles of a county board. It's only taken them 3 months to notice this. Be good to see the proper one now. Get them out and get competent people in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2021, 11:44:51 PM
Thanks EOC, Gold, Flanker and others. It's been a long day. Three county semi final draws in three years....all after extra time.... has been draining us, but that's sport...look at Mayo.

Creggan and Aghagallon will fight it out for the Mc Namee Cup. The two best teams are in the final, it should be a cracker.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogieman on November 02, 2021, 07:33:00 AM

There are a lot lessons to be learnt regarding this saga, for both personal and committee

Full credit to BS, genuine rock of sense. PG1 seeking clarity was proper for their mob.

Never saw Agh 'statement', i wonder if it was a club committee one

Lesson 1. As well as club secretaries, send the rules to Paddy and Brendan, that will sort most issues... maybe a wise idea to send them to match officials as well......

Just a thought, if additional periods of extra time are only in rule for provincial senior championship replays, where did the confusion come from; this rule can only be changed on application and agreement from central council.

Lesson 2. Don't eat yellow snow. 'nuff said  8)


Ps I'd rather see 45's points from ground or hand than penalties, better demonstration of the code skills

Pss if you're referring to any social media information like club statements, please include a link for technowennies like me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 02, 2021, 08:06:16 AM
Fair to say Portglenone are on the Antrim chairman's Christmas card list after saving him and others from serious embarrassment.
On another note, where will the final be? Will St Johns allow Antrim access to the new stand and terracing they were provided with, or will Antrim gaels be sent again on a 20min hike to stand on a wet grass bank for their showpiece event of the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 02, 2021, 08:28:45 AM
Good outcome.  Portglenone had a lot to deal with internally no doubt - lots of members on lots of different pages.  If it took 24 hours to bring everything together then fair enough.  Lots of lessons.  Almost certainly an appeal would have been successful, but the two teams agreed to play the extra time on the day and it just wasn't right to undo that agreement. It's a pity both clubs had a very stressful few days after a classic encounter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2021, 08:47:34 AM
Indeed EOC. Ulster appeal committee hold Antrim CCC in the lowest regard, due to a consistent mix up of administration errors. An appeal would have been a shoe in...

Integrity in sport wins the day, Antrim saved another red face at provincial or national level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 02, 2021, 08:49:48 AM
Full credit to Roger Casements, Portglenone.

Had they proceeded with an appeal the result would almost certainly have been a replay.

Lots of comments have been thrown about but I suspect not a lot of other clubs would have shown this level of integrity with a potential county final on the line.

But Aghagallon beat them fair and square so glad that Portglenone have decided to to the right thing against their own best interest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 02, 2021, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 02, 2021, 08:28:45 AM
Good outcome.  Portglenone had a lot to deal with internally no doubt - lots of members on lots of different pages.  If it took 24 hours to bring everything together then fair enough.  Lots of lessons.  Almost certainly an appeal would have been successful, but the two teams agreed to play the extra time on the day and it just wasn't right to undo that agreement. It's a pity both clubs had a very stressful few days after a classic encounter.

we were placed in a similar position recently in Down where all three teams in a Feile round robin had drawn all games and the rules used to separate the teams wasn't the rules we were officially informed would be. The rules used differed in this scenario as they used least scores conceded rather than most scores for. We lost out when these new rules were produced on the day when the official went to separate the three teams.

The final was played out with the other two teams..

We'd much discussion over what to do internally and I've no doubt we'd have succeeded in any appeals process but then you need to ask yourself what does winning look like and personally I didn't like what it looked like at U15 with kids involved so we didn't appeal. I took some shít over this decision by disgruntled management and some parents but you're placed in a no win situation through no fault of your own.

You only hope that the paid officials in the county get things like this sorted out and prevent reoccurrence in the future.

Poor communication evidently is a blight on more than one County Board..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 02, 2021, 09:08:56 AM
Anyone know the extra time rules for the final ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
To be decided on the day depending on how quickly Frankie needs home for the dinner

Quote from: stiffler on November 02, 2021, 09:08:56 AM
Anyone know the extra time rules for the final ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 02, 2021, 10:19:38 AM
The "statement" by Ciaran McCavana was pathetic, no admission of an error being made. No we will ensure it won't happen again etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2021, 10:22:06 AM
It just goes to show the total shambles our county board is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 02, 2021, 11:13:29 AM
How do we get McCavana out the door, too many balls ups now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 02, 2021, 11:25:06 AM
Pg1 have came out of this smelling of roses when infact they just spat the dummy out because they couldnt take a beating! But fair play to them, seen sense in the end. Was a funny old 24 hours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 02, 2021, 11:34:20 AM
PG1 sought clarification then decided not to proceed with an appeal when they had every right to do so. Would not have been an easy decision but credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 02, 2021, 11:37:24 AM
St Marys may thank their lucky stars that they did not appeal as PG1 definitely would have been awarded a replay, it certainly would have been some value on here listening to the Aghagallon lads panic like they did yeterday lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 11:38:54 AM
Have they? For many I think PG1 will have gone done in people's estimations, had it not have been for the poor publicity they were receiving and the force of public opinion I believe they would have proceeded with an appeal, if not why seek clarification unless they did not get the response they wanted from the CCC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 02, 2021, 11:44:22 AM
Lol woulda had to get the popcorn out.

Only gripe i had with the situation was that pg1 agreed to play the extra time then decided they didnt like the outcome. But sure its done now. Aghagallon deservedly in the final but cant see creggan not winning. Although thought the same about cargin.

Quote from: Truth hurts on November 02, 2021, 11:37:24 AM
St Marys may thank their lucky stars that they did not appeal as PG1 definitely would have been awarded a replay, it certainly would have been some value on here listening to the Aghagallon lads panic like they did yeterday lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 02, 2021, 11:45:30 AM
100% agree. Have no doubt they would have went ahead with it had they not been gettinh so much abuse on social media.

But take a look on twitter today, everyone thinks they are heroes.

Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 11:38:54 AM
Have they? For many I think PG1 will have gone done in people's estimations, had it not have been for the poor publicity they were receiving and the force of public opinion I believe they would have proceeded with an appeal, if not why seek clarification unless they did not get the response they wanted from the CCC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 02, 2021, 12:34:37 PM
All's well that ends well! We move onto the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 02, 2021, 12:37:27 PM
That's the end of the saga!

Predictions for the final? Creggan will be massive favourites but we will give it a go. Is there an official date and time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
There are some idiots here who are quick to dive in without a proper understanding of how clubs work. Maybe some of you haven't served on committees or understand how these things work. There's executive members, extended committee members, standard club members, team management, team first team players, then squad members. Maybe a club sponsor may have a view. There are so many constituent parts that make up a club. This happened Sunday night. Many said let it go, others sure check out the validity first. That happened. Social media kicked in like wildfire before our club committee even got a chance to discuss and review. When they did, the correct call was made. For anyone to try to denigrate our club for any part of this is just plain ignorant of how club governing and communication structures work. So please wise up some of you. Social media did not influence our clubs decision in any way. Cool heads behind the scenes were always in control, just needed a few hours to quieten the influence of a few who sought to peddle their own agenda.

This story has passed. Casements relinquished an opportunity to get the match relayed with a key player back. Thankfully most on here recognise that for what it is, the upkeep of sporting integrity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:47:46 PM
Good call Jim. Heard Creggan have brought in a few big guns to assist with preparation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 02, 2021, 12:50:43 PM
Creggan will be favorites and rightly so but Aghagallon will give them all they want and more. They have really dangerous forwards who will need close attention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 02, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
General question for some of you lads who have more knowledge of the rules than me. Complete general question with no example in mind before I start a row of some sort lol

When a game goes into extra time I know its considered a new game. Someone that got 2 yellows can play for example. If someone was serving a 1 match ban are they eligible to play then or Im assuming they have to be part of the squad for normal time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 02, 2021, 01:32:34 PM
If you got two yellows in ordinary time, you can't play in extra time. You can be replaced by someone else on the panel and your team can start with the full compliment again if that's what you are asking.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 02, 2021, 01:35:22 PM
suspension includes extra time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 02, 2021, 01:38:30 PM
Perfect. thanks lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
I'm sorry BS I don't buy this and deep down I do not think that you either believe it yourself or agree that your club should have sought clarification.

All the parties you have stated could have met and decided if they would seek clarification from the CCC, as opposed to seeking clarification and meeting on it. Can you confirm what the CCC said in relation to the request for clarification.

From what I can see on here you seem like a decent bloke, however your frustrations are coming through calling people idiots, who exactly are you frustrated with? The public who have stated Casements were wrong in even considering an appeal or the club for considering seeking an appeal?

Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
There are some idiots here who are quick to dive in without a proper understanding of how clubs work. Maybe some of you haven't served on committees or understand how these things work. There's executive members, extended committee members, standard club members, team management, team first team players, then squad members. Maybe a club sponsor may have a view. There are so many constituent parts that make up a club. This happened Sunday night. Many said let it go, others sure check out the validity first. That happened. Social media kicked in like wildfire before our club committee even got a chance to discuss and review. When they did, the correct call was made. For anyone to try to denigrate our club for any part of this is just plain ignorant of how club governing and communication structures work. So please wise up some of you. Social media did not influence our clubs decision in any way. Cool heads behind the scenes were always in control, just needed a few hours to quieten the influence of a few who sought to peddle their own agenda.

This story has passed. Casements relinquished an opportunity to get the match relayed with a key player back. Thankfully most on here recognise that for what it is, the upkeep of sporting integrity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 02, 2021, 02:14:03 PM
Bannsides 100% right, ignorance in part in that these things take time.
Also a general societal thing now where there is a demand for instant info/updates and when it doesnt come the whole thing goes into overdrive. Case in point was how busy this thread was yesterday, i didnt go near twitter im sure it was fun too..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 02, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
I think its time to draw a line under yesterday. The 2 teams most deserving to be in the final will be there and hopefully it will be a good game to end what has been a fascinating championship to date. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 02, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
I'm sorry BS I don't buy this and deep down I do not think that you either believe it yourself or agree that your club should have sought clarification.

All the parties you have stated could have met and decided if they would seek clarification from the CCC, as opposed to seeking clarification and meeting on it. Can you confirm what the CCC said in relation to the request for clarification.

From what I can see on here you seem like a decent bloke, however your frustrations are coming through calling people idiots, who exactly are you frustrated with? The public who have stated Casements were wrong in even considering an appeal or the club for considering seeking an appeal?

Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
There are some idiots here who are quick to dive in without a proper understanding of how clubs work. Maybe some of you haven't served on committees or understand how these things work. There's executive members, extended committee members, standard club members, team management, team first team players, then squad members. Maybe a club sponsor may have a view. There are so many constituent parts that make up a club. This happened Sunday night. Many said let it go, others sure check out the validity first. That happened. Social media kicked in like wildfire before our club committee even got a chance to discuss and review. When they did, the correct call was made. For anyone to try to denigrate our club for any part of this is just plain ignorant of how club governing and communication structures work. So please wise up some of you. Social media did not influence our clubs decision in any way. Cool heads behind the scenes were always in control, just needed a few hours to quieten the influence of a few who sought to peddle their own agenda.

This story has passed. Casements relinquished an opportunity to get the match relayed with a key player back. Thankfully most on here recognise that for what it is, the upkeep of sporting integrity.
CD BS has articulated this well
This only kicked off on Sunday evening. To suggest that you could get all parties together without establishing the facts on Sunday night is just a bit ridiculous. Anyone who has any understanding of how clubs /comittees work would know that you need to have your information factually correct beforehand.
Anyone who has ever been in a position or close to a position within a club will probably agree to get this to a conclusion within 24 and a bit hours is some achievement. I would be surprised if Aghagallon despite their initial disappointment would not agree with this as well on reflection. Casements is not 1 person, it is not a committee it is a wide group of members. The key thing is to bring everyone with you in the decision. There is no shortage of examples of much smaller and trivial issues that have caused splits and grievances in virtually every club in the country. There would have been a good few guys in PG1 who wouldnt have got much work done yesterday. Time to move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:49:20 PM
I do not doubt any of this, however my point is when you put the wheels in motion of seeking a clarification you are opening a can of worms, as they had 72 hours to launch an appeal surely they could have met to see if a clarification would affect how they would act. After all the clarification would be yes the rules were not followed or the rules were followed. Why not meet to say, should we seek clarification? If the rules were not followed will an appeal follow? The process/decision was clear as there could only be one of two outcomes from the clarification sought

Quote from: Flanker on November 02, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
I'm sorry BS I don't buy this and deep down I do not think that you either believe it yourself or agree that your club should have sought clarification.

All the parties you have stated could have met and decided if they would seek clarification from the CCC, as opposed to seeking clarification and meeting on it. Can you confirm what the CCC said in relation to the request for clarification.

From what I can see on here you seem like a decent bloke, however your frustrations are coming through calling people idiots, who exactly are you frustrated with? The public who have stated Casements were wrong in even considering an appeal or the club for considering seeking an appeal?

Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
There are some idiots here who are quick to dive in without a proper understanding of how clubs work. Maybe some of you haven't served on committees or understand how these things work. There's executive members, extended committee members, standard club members, team management, team first team players, then squad members. Maybe a club sponsor may have a view. There are so many constituent parts that make up a club. This happened Sunday night. Many said let it go, others sure check out the validity first. That happened. Social media kicked in like wildfire before our club committee even got a chance to discuss and review. When they did, the correct call was made. For anyone to try to denigrate our club for any part of this is just plain ignorant of how club governing and communication structures work. So please wise up some of you. Social media did not influence our clubs decision in any way. Cool heads behind the scenes were always in control, just needed a few hours to quieten the influence of a few who sought to peddle their own agenda.

This story has passed. Casements relinquished an opportunity to get the match relayed with a key player back. Thankfully most on here recognise that for what it is, the upkeep of sporting integrity.
CD BS has articulated this well
This only kicked off on Sunday evening. To suggest that you could get all parties together without establishing the facts on Sunday night is just a bit ridiculous. Anyone who has any understanding of how clubs /comittees work would know that you need to have your information factually correct beforehand.
Anyone who has ever been in a position or close to a position within a club will probably agree to get this to a conclusion within 24 and a bit hours is some achievement. I would be surprised if Aghagallon despite their initial disappointment would not agree with this as well on reflection. Casements is not 1 person, it is not a committee it is a wide group of members. The key thing is to bring everyone with you in the decision. There is no shortage of examples of much smaller and trivial issues that have caused splits and grievances in virtually every club in the country. There would have been a good few guys in PG1 who wouldnt have got much work done yesterday. Time to move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2021, 02:53:06 PM
Once again, Flanker on the money. Wise heads were in control of this from pretty much the start, managing the process and flow of information was the challenge. That's me completely done here on this subject. Thank you to all who had the maturity to see the bigger picture and not dive straight in with rash comment.

We have lost three county finals in the noughties, and more recently three semi finals all after drawing AFTER extra time, we've had free kick shoot outs, penalty shoot outs and lose by a point after two periods of extra time.

When the breakthrough eventually comes (which I guarantee will) we will reminisce about it all and maybe, just maybe, have a chuckle. Time to get back to work!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 02, 2021, 02:58:06 PM
 So meet Monday... concensus seeks clarification Meet Tuesday to decide action  it rumbles on
Smart thing was to have your info at hand prior to meeting bring everyone with you as much as possible Try to get it to an agreed conclusion in one go.
Just my opinion.... I think they did well I think on reflection Aghagallon will agree



Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:49:20 PM
I do not doubt any of this, however my point is when you put the wheels in motion of seeking a clarification you are opening a can of worms, as they had 72 hours to launch an appeal surely they could have met to see if a clarification would affect how they would act. After all the clarification would be yes the rules were not followed or the rules were followed. Why not meet to say, should we seek clarification? If the rules were not followed will an appeal follow? The process/decision was clear as there could only be one of two outcomes from the clarification sought

Quote from: Flanker on November 02, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
I'm sorry BS I don't buy this and deep down I do not think that you either believe it yourself or agree that your club should have sought clarification.

All the parties you have stated could have met and decided if they would seek clarification from the CCC, as opposed to seeking clarification and meeting on it. Can you confirm what the CCC said in relation to the request for clarification.

From what I can see on here you seem like a decent bloke, however your frustrations are coming through calling people idiots, who exactly are you frustrated with? The public who have stated Casements were wrong in even considering an appeal or the club for considering seeking an appeal?

Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
There are some idiots here who are quick to dive in without a proper understanding of how clubs work. Maybe some of you haven't served on committees or understand how these things work. There's executive members, extended committee members, standard club members, team management, team first team players, then squad members. Maybe a club sponsor may have a view. There are so many constituent parts that make up a club. This happened Sunday night. Many said let it go, others sure check out the validity first. That happened. Social media kicked in like wildfire before our club committee even got a chance to discuss and review. When they did, the correct call was made. For anyone to try to denigrate our club for any part of this is just plain ignorant of how club governing and communication structures work. So please wise up some of you. Social media did not influence our clubs decision in any way. Cool heads behind the scenes were always in control, just needed a few hours to quieten the influence of a few who sought to peddle their own agenda.

This story has passed. Casements relinquished an opportunity to get the match relayed with a key player back. Thankfully most on here recognise that for what it is, the upkeep of sporting integrity.
CD BS has articulated this well
This only kicked off on Sunday evening. To suggest that you could get all parties together without establishing the facts on Sunday night is just a bit ridiculous. Anyone who has any understanding of how clubs /comittees work would know that you need to have your information factually correct beforehand.
Anyone who has ever been in a position or close to a position within a club will probably agree to get this to a conclusion within 24 and a bit hours is some achievement. I would be surprised if Aghagallon despite their initial disappointment would not agree with this as well on reflection. Casements is not 1 person, it is not a committee it is a wide group of members. The key thing is to bring everyone with you in the decision. There is no shortage of examples of much smaller and trivial issues that have caused splits and grievances in virtually every club in the country. There would have been a good few guys in PG1 who wouldnt have got much work done yesterday. Time to move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 03:10:04 PM
No no, meet Monday to decide if clarification should be sought, there will be one of two outcomes from the clarifications, if the rules are broken are you even going to appeal, if not why seek the clarification

Quote from: Flanker on November 02, 2021, 02:58:06 PM
So meet Monday... concensus seeks clarification Meet Tuesday to decide action  it rumbles on
Smart thing was to have your info at hand prior to meeting bring everyone with you as much as possible Try to get it to an agreed conclusion in one go.
Just my opinion.... I think they did well I think on reflection Aghagallon will agree



Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:49:20 PM
I do not doubt any of this, however my point is when you put the wheels in motion of seeking a clarification you are opening a can of worms, as they had 72 hours to launch an appeal surely they could have met to see if a clarification would affect how they would act. After all the clarification would be yes the rules were not followed or the rules were followed. Why not meet to say, should we seek clarification? If the rules were not followed will an appeal follow? The process/decision was clear as there could only be one of two outcomes from the clarification sought

Quote from: Flanker on November 02, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 02, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
I'm sorry BS I don't buy this and deep down I do not think that you either believe it yourself or agree that your club should have sought clarification.

All the parties you have stated could have met and decided if they would seek clarification from the CCC, as opposed to seeking clarification and meeting on it. Can you confirm what the CCC said in relation to the request for clarification.

From what I can see on here you seem like a decent bloke, however your frustrations are coming through calling people idiots, who exactly are you frustrated with? The public who have stated Casements were wrong in even considering an appeal or the club for considering seeking an appeal?

Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
There are some idiots here who are quick to dive in without a proper understanding of how clubs work. Maybe some of you haven't served on committees or understand how these things work. There's executive members, extended committee members, standard club members, team management, team first team players, then squad members. Maybe a club sponsor may have a view. There are so many constituent parts that make up a club. This happened Sunday night. Many said let it go, others sure check out the validity first. That happened. Social media kicked in like wildfire before our club committee even got a chance to discuss and review. When they did, the correct call was made. For anyone to try to denigrate our club for any part of this is just plain ignorant of how club governing and communication structures work. So please wise up some of you. Social media did not influence our clubs decision in any way. Cool heads behind the scenes were always in control, just needed a few hours to quieten the influence of a few who sought to peddle their own agenda.

This story has passed. Casements relinquished an opportunity to get the match relayed with a key player back. Thankfully most on here recognise that for what it is, the upkeep of sporting integrity.
CD BS has articulated this well
This only kicked off on Sunday evening. To suggest that you could get all parties together without establishing the facts on Sunday night is just a bit ridiculous. Anyone who has any understanding of how clubs /comittees work would know that you need to have your information factually correct beforehand.
Anyone who has ever been in a position or close to a position within a club will probably agree to get this to a conclusion within 24 and a bit hours is some achievement. I would be surprised if Aghagallon despite their initial disappointment would not agree with this as well on reflection. Casements is not 1 person, it is not a committee it is a wide group of members. The key thing is to bring everyone with you in the decision. There is no shortage of examples of much smaller and trivial issues that have caused splits and grievances in virtually every club in the country. There would have been a good few guys in PG1 who wouldnt have got much work done yesterday. Time to move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 02, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
FFS it's over, just get on with it whatever opinion you may or may not have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 02, 2021, 03:30:20 PM
It's over and done with. Why can't you all be calm and relaxed like I was yesterday 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 02, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
Will dogs be allowed into the county final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 02, 2021, 04:42:11 PM
Best of luck to both teams in the final. Hopefully the standard of football is as entertaining as we have been treated to in recent games!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2021, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 02, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
Will dogs be allowed into the county final?

Frank is allowed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 02, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
I see one of the few dual clubs up this neck advertising for new football manager, Glenravel?

Be a fun merry go round coming up I think.

I imagine big changes across bored in division 1 especially at the top with the poor performance of Cargin (not criticism as they have set ridiculous high standard but I mean they will see it as poor) , Hannahstown, Galls, Johnnies, Rossa? Could be fun and games and Belfast GAA man will not be happy I predict with paid managers everywhere possibly  ;D

Div 2 and 3 could be same. Fun times ahead if nothing else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 02, 2021, 11:27:16 PM
Cassidy will have enough credit in the bank and i highly doubt Cargin will be looking to replace him. disappointing result for them but they will be back for years to come. Still quite a few championships in that team, have some of the best young players in the county even if the likes of the mccanns, oboyle, crozier etc decide to step away (cant see that happening).

Think nugent stepped down from the johnnies, unsure about the others.

Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 02, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
I see one of the few dual clubs up this neck advertising for new football manager, Glenravel?

Be a fun merry go round coming up I think.

I imagine big changes across bored in division 1 especially at the top with the poor performance of Cargin (not criticism as they have set ridiculous high standard but I mean they will see it as poor) , Hannahstown, Galls, Johnnies, Rossa? Could be fun and games and Belfast GAA man will not be happy I predict with paid managers everywhere possibly  ;D

Div 2 and 3 could be same. Fun times ahead if nothing else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 03, 2021, 12:09:20 AM
The managerial change that would intrigue me most would be if pg1 decide to change. Their current managers have clearly shown they are good enough but they might be looking to change to take them to another level. Similar to creggan and aghagallon, they have a great young panel of players that will be competing for the top honours for years to come.

Maybe kevin madden will lend his services to his club. Free of charge of course 😛
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on November 03, 2021, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 02, 2021, 11:27:16 PM
Cassidy will have enough credit in the bank and i highly doubt Cargin will be looking to replace him. disappointing result for them but they will be back for years to come. Still quite a few championships in that team, have some of the best young players in the county even if the likes of the mccanns, oboyle, crozier etc decide to step away (cant see that happening).

Think nugent stepped down from the johnnies, unsure about the others.

Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 02, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
I see one of the few dual clubs up this neck advertising for new football manager, Glenravel?

Be a fun merry go round coming up I think.

I imagine big changes across bored in division 1 especially at the top with the poor performance of Cargin (not criticism as they have set ridiculous high standard but I mean they will see it as poor) , Hannahstown, Galls, Johnnies, Rossa? Could be fun and games and Belfast GAA man will not be happy I predict with paid managers everywhere possibly ;D

Div 2 and 3 could be same. Fun times ahead if nothing else
No doubt about the paid bit, think Ive come full circle on this and now see it as a completely natural evolution. With the level of expectation from players and clubs in general it is no longer sustainable for clubmates to co-exist in this space. I dont see any managers who don't love the game and at least a few quid expenses takes the sting out of all the time they invest nevermind all the other discomfort heaped on them. As I often said to our lads "You are the boys having all the fun here so make the best of it" For any manager with an appetite for it good luck to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 03, 2021, 10:12:21 AM
We finally made it over the line against Cargin. We put in a hell of a display, especially coming from a bad start to win by 3. The team had been so close and it was obvious to me that we we just simply wanted the win more. Our tackling was more intense, our support play was superior and our scoring was more efficient than previously. Cargin were the opposite. We bossed the second half. Its been a long time coming for this team, inch by inch each year to get past Cargin. At least I can hold my own now in the slagging with the in laws. The ref let wild bad tackles go which suited us on the day as we more aggressive and I have to say there a were a few in the final ten minutes I was shocked at getting. Not complaining, absolutley not not, we'll take them when we can, just an opinion. Into another final, our third in the past four seasons, we have to make it count. Couldn't face loosing this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 03, 2021, 10:31:28 AM
Aghagallon worth a punt at 2/1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 03, 2021, 10:31:28 AM
Aghagallon worth a punt at 2/1?

Is it confirmed for corrigan yet ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 03, 2021, 10:34:03 AM
No idea but i would assume it will be there.

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 03, 2021, 10:31:28 AM
Aghagallon worth a punt at 2/1?

Is it confirmed for corrigan yet ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 03, 2021, 10:37:04 AM
Quote from: Peter john on November 03, 2021, 10:22:39 AM
I'm hearing big changes in pg1,Frank Delargy  and K Madden as his assistant,pg1 management away,apparently Dillon already a job lined up,long before knockout stages,more ££££££££,taking P Kelly with him as trainer

Where is Dillon away to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 11:35:59 AM
I heard Redknapp in to pg1 supported by Jim Gavin and Dillon away to Down. It makes as much sense as the tosh on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 03, 2021, 11:39:50 AM
😅 bringing in crouchy to partner mckeever

Quote from: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 11:35:59 AM
I heard Redknapp in to pg1 supported by Jim Gavin and Dillon away to Down. It makes as much sense as the tosh on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 03, 2021, 11:57:46 AM
Quote from: referee on November 03, 2021, 11:25:41 AM
Quote from: Peter john on November 03, 2021, 11:24:21 AM
Beannchar
I heard Drumsurn

Can't see them getting shot of Brady given the year they had
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 12:20:51 PM
Managers get paid???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 03, 2021, 02:34:31 PM
So where is Dillon going?lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 03, 2021, 02:52:11 PM
Any confirmation of time and venue for the final?

Surely a SW venue would make the most sense for 2 SW clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 03, 2021, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 03, 2021, 10:22:39 AM
I'm hearing big changes in pg1,Frank Delargy  and K Madden as his assistant,pg1 management away,apparently Dillon already a job lined up,long before knockout stages,more ££££££££,taking P Kelly with him as trainer
I realise this is a piss take but why would Portglenone even want Madden, and has Barry Dillon done much as a manager anywhere to warrant a role. But this wont matter there is always some team that will take these men on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 03, 2021, 02:52:11 PM
Any confirmation of time and venue for the final?

Surely a SW venue would make the most sense for 2 SW clubs.

Dunsilly would do the job surely. Any word on who is the ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 03, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
Watching the matches at 1/4 and 1/2 final stage, I found between endas and Dunsilly the atmosphere was hard to generate? Maybe glenavy , ahoghill or Portglenone better for atmosphere for final? Actually think Corrigan is good for that but would be mad geography wise. Put nothing past the board tho
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 03, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
Watching the matches at 1/4 and 1/2 final stage, I found between endas and Dunsilly the atmosphere was hard to generate? Maybe glenavy , ahoghill or Portglenone better for atmosphere for final? Actually think Corrigan is good for that but would be mad geography wise. Put nothing past the board tho

Glenavy is always a good place for atmosphere. My favourite pitch in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 03, 2021, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 03, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
Watching the matches at 1/4 and 1/2 final stage, I found between endas and Dunsilly the atmosphere was hard to generate? Maybe glenavy , ahoghill or Portglenone better for atmosphere for final? Actually think Corrigan is good for that but would be mad geography wise. Put nothing past the board tho

Dunsilly out of action for a couple weeks now i think as the floodlights go up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 03, 2021, 04:02:27 PM
Same here JimStynes. Both teams be happy enough with that? Slightly closer to you guys but not exactly other end of the world for Creggan. Would make a potentially great game even better I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 03, 2021, 04:02:59 PM
I'd be certain it's for Corrigan. Maybe a motion needs to go towards county convention that if two SW clubs (might as well include At Endas in that too) are in the final then the SW committee retains the right to nominate the venue.

Crowd will probably be larger anyway depending on who is playing....a big South Derry crowd would usually swell the attendance if it avoids their big dates.

Unless of course Casement Park becomes an option. Can't see too many objecting to that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 03, 2021, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 03, 2021, 02:52:11 PM
Any confirmation of time and venue for the final?

Surely a SW venue would make the most sense for 2 SW clubs.

Dunsilly would do the job surely. Any word on who is the ref?

I heard a rumour it was young Roberts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 03, 2021, 04:16:35 PM
Most likely Corrigan, with the money invested in it a return is necessary. Ahoghill is a great venue but i think there are issues with it and the TV fellas .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 03, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
Watching the matches at 1/4 and 1/2 final stage, I found between endas and Dunsilly the atmosphere was hard to generate? Maybe glenavy , ahoghill or Portglenone better for atmosphere for final? Actually think Corrigan is good for that but would be mad geography wise. Put nothing past the board tho

Glenavy is always a good place for atmosphere. My favourite pitch in Antrim

This would be a good call
Don't rule out St endas if the chairman has his say
Better get the hiking boots on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 03, 2021, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 03, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
Watching the matches at 1/4 and 1/2 final stage, I found between endas and Dunsilly the atmosphere was hard to generate? Maybe glenavy , ahoghill or Portglenone better for atmosphere for final? Actually think Corrigan is good for that but would be mad geography wise. Put nothing past the board tho

Glenavy is always a good place for atmosphere. My favourite pitch in Antrim
Two SW teams surely but it has to be in Corrigan. The only thing resembling a stadium in this county. Do you not realise how bad it looks on tg4 with our finals at an average club ground. Do we not want taken seriously

This would be a good call
Don't rule out St endas if the chairman has his say
Better get the hiking boots on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2021, 05:21:00 PM
How do you set up A go fund me page? thinking of how cassidy is going to finish of the jacuzzi without his bonus  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 05:40:16 PM
Should be corrigan end of. Designated county ground, seated area (albiet not much), terrace and a grass bank. Doesn't matter where 2 clubs are from, it should have been set out from beginning of year that the final was there, unless johnnies were in it. Can't say I'm surprised at lack of planning though!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 03, 2021, 07:06:52 PM
Surely it will be corrigan.

Sw or city ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 07:13:17 PM
Has to be county ground every year no matter who's in it, even st John's
Tullamore were in offaly final on Sunday and it was still in tullamore
Ask supporters of any team in a county final, especially your first, and they'll go anywhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2021, 07:15:50 PM
Corrigan is the place for it, has to be the county ground.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 03, 2021, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2021, 05:21:00 PM
How do you set up A go fund me page? thinking of how cassidy is going to finish of the jacuzzi without his bonus  :)
I will send you a link on how to start one. I have started one for you as well, help pay for you to go and see someone to get your unhealthy obsession with Damian Cassidy sorted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 03, 2021, 08:08:40 PM
I have expressed on the past here that I am no fan of Cassidy (or his methods should I say) however credit where credit is due lads, x3 championships in a row, shown in 2 finals again Creggan that he could win attacking and defensive games!! No mug, however, not to forget Devlin in with him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2021, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 03, 2021, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2021, 05:21:00 PM
How do you set up A go fund me page? thinking of how cassidy is going to finish of the jacuzzi without his bonus  :)
I will send you a link on how to start one. I have started one for you as well, help pay for you to go and see someone to get your unhealthy obsession with Damian Cassidy sorted

It's on the verge of being freaky.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Pointed out to me today, fun fact.
If creggan win championship, senior, intermediate and junior winners will all come within a 6ish mile radius.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 09:51:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Pointed out to me today, fun fact.
If creggan win championship, senior, intermediate and junior winners will all come within a 6ish mile radius.

No doubt the befasties will say that's been done loads of times - with even less of a radius probably
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2021, 09:54:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 03, 2021, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 03, 2021, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2021, 05:21:00 PM
How do you set up A go fund me page? thinking of how cassidy is going to finish of the jacuzzi without his bonus  :)
I will send you a link on how to start one. I have started one for you as well, help pay for you to go and see someone to get your unhealthy obsession with Damian Cassidy sorted

It's on the verge of being freaky.
LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 10:02:44 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Pointed out to me today, fun fact.
If creggan win championship, senior, intermediate and junior winners will all come within a 6ish mile radius.

If Clann Eireann beat Cross and Aghagallon beat Creggan, the Armagh and Antrim champions will come
from 3 mile of each other. Both massive underdogs though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2021, 10:40:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 03, 2021, 10:02:44 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 03, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Pointed out to me today, fun fact.
If creggan win championship, senior, intermediate and junior winners will all come within a 6ish mile radius.

If Clann Eireann beat Cross and Aghagallon beat Creggan, the Armagh and Antrim champions will come
from 3 mile of each other. Both massive underdogs though.

And play each other!

2 big ifs obviously ATM but who knows
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 07:29:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Portglenone won't appeal anything, they will take their defeat on the chin and not look for loopholes as that's how we roll down around these parts. MR2 watch todays game back and explain that 21 yard free you gave to Creggan for the fair shoulder. You talk enough on here about all sorts of stuff you can talk about that. Scandalous. Good thing it's on social media for all to see



Sorry if I've missed it but did we ever get an explanation for this refereeing decision from the referee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on November 04, 2021, 07:47:38 AM
I've watched the game back also ,and I have to say there is alot more questionable decision's in the second half than that shoulder incident! MR2 is on this board every day bit all of a sudden he gone very quiet.🤔🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb on November 04, 2021, 08:02:30 AM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 07:29:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Portglenone won't appeal anything, they will take their defeat on the chin and not look for loopholes as that's how we roll down around these parts. MR2 watch todays game back and explain that 21 yard free you gave to Creggan for the fair shoulder. You talk enough on here about all sorts of stuff you can talk about that. Scandalous. Good thing it's on social media for all to see



Sorry if I've missed it but did we ever get an explanation for this refereeing decision from the referee?

Absolutely perfect shoulder & well within the rules. However, Creggan no9 McCann? Hit Kevin O'Boyle with similar shoulder in the first half, and was blown for it. Obviously these were at two different stages of the game but at least he was consistent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 04, 2021, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: seanyb on November 04, 2021, 08:02:30 AM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 07:29:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Portglenone won't appeal anything, they will take their defeat on the chin and not look for loopholes as that's how we roll down around these parts. MR2 watch todays game back and explain that 21 yard free you gave to Creggan for the fair shoulder. You talk enough on here about all sorts of stuff you can talk about that. Scandalous. Good thing it's on social media for all to see



Sorry if I've missed it but did we ever get an explanation for this refereeing decision from the referee?

Absolutely perfect shoulder & well within the rules. However, Creggan no9 McCann? Hit Kevin O'Boyle with similar shoulder in the first half, and was blown for it. Obviously these were at two different stages of the game but at least he was consistent.

Sean, did you jump on the Antrim thread because you name was mentioned above about leaving Drumsurn?

Can you put the rumours to bed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 04, 2021, 08:38:31 AM
On first viewing it looked like a free to me.

Referees are easy targets on here, but I thought they were good in both semis at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
Stiffler the video of the textbook shoulder is on Twitter for all to see and is clearly not a foul.

I don't mind if a referee makes an honest mistake, but I'd welcome an explanation for why a free was given. For a neutral it completely spoiled an enthralling game to see so many questionable decisions at crucial moments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2021, 09:59:00 AM
Been a while since I made comment on this board but like more than a few others I await explanation from .
MR2 as to the 'mistakes be made during that game I  question.
Without doubt Cargin did under perform on Sunday but the stats for the second thirty minutes do tell a tale.
Cargin  were awarded a huge 4 frees in that period, Creggan got 16.......to include several eye raising decisions which caused the linesman to shake his head.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 04, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
Only seen the hit on facebook and it was a textbook shoulder. However, i can understand why a free was given in real time. Refs have a split second to make a decision, it probably looked like a foul to the ref given the way the creggan player got absolutely cleaned out (albeit fairly).

Show me a man who says they would be a ref in Antrim football and i'll show you a liar.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 10:44:32 AM
The shoulder is a difficult one to call at full pace. At the time the people around me were split whether it was free or not and i remember similar in Ports game against either Hannahstown or Aghagallon. Big McKeever made great shoulder but in real time there was massive shouts for foul. Refs have been outstanding this campaign for me so far.

On another note, was up the town centre there grabbing supplies and Ballymena needing new management along with many others in division 2? This boy was telling me Glenavy, Mglass and Aldergrove all needing new management? Some interesting names linked to all 4 jobs! Jacuzzis getting paid for all around BelfastGAA 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 10:56:17 AM
I believe the GAA should bring in a rule that you can only manage your own club. I don't like this business of paid outside managers at all. For me it definitely devalues any success a club has. Totally understand why some clubs feel they need to do it but I don't think it should be permitted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 10:57:59 AM
I thought the referees in the championship have been very good for the most part. I agree that MR2 made a few calls that I maybe didn't agree with but Cargin were certainly not robbed and Creggan won on merit. I didn't think mr2 had a bad game. Laverty was very good again in our game. He did make a few strange calls but overall it was a good performance from him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 04, 2021, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
Stiffler the video of the textbook shoulder is on Twitter for all to see and is clearly not a foul.

I don't mind if a referee makes an honest mistake, but I'd welcome an explanation for why a free was given. For a neutral it completely spoiled an enthralling game to see so many questionable decisions at crucial moments.

My comment was in relation to first view , not with the benefit of replays. When these games are played at championship pace , there will always be decisions that could go either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 10:57:59 AM
I thought the referees in the championship have been very good for the most part. I agree that MR2 made a few calls that I maybe didn't agree with but Cargin were certainly not robbed and Creggan won on merit. I didn't think mr2 had a bad game. Laverty was very good again in our game. He did make a few strange calls but overall it was a good performance from him.

Totally agree Creggan deserved the win, much hungrier than Cargin 2nd half. We'll have to disagree on the officiating though.

Aghagallon were very impressive in their win, if Creggan don't keep the forwards under wraps it could be a lot closer than many seem to think it will be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 04, 2021, 11:16:46 AM
I think the game will be very close. Still fancy creggan to win by 2/3 in the end though. Aghagallon have some cracking players and their bench really made an impact against pg1. Although i expect loughran to start if hes fully fit, what a player his is by the way. Just think creggans experience will get them over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:24:54 AM
Ref gave few strange calls to both teams I thought. Tomas free in 2nd half looked soft from behind the goals.Goes both ways. Cargin not scoring from play for a full half and going 17mins at all without a score was a shock to all. Don't think ref can be to blame for that. Final should be cracking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Any thoughts on who gets the final. Toland again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Any thoughts on who gets the final. Toland again?

I heard it was one of the men standing with an ear piece in at the Aghagallon game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Any thoughts on who gets the final. Toland again?

For my money the best ref in the county is that McDonald chap from St Galls I think. Explains his decisions and generally makes the right call.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 12:02:46 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 03, 2021, 07:06:52 PM
Surely it will be corrigan.

Sw or city ref?

Confirmed for corrigan
Sunday 14th November @2.30
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 12:02:46 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 03, 2021, 07:06:52 PM
Surely it will be corrigan.

Sw or city ref?

Confirmed for corrigan
Sunday 14th November @2.30

Right decision for me. I thought the Creggan semi final would have been better in PG1 or Ahoghill or somewhere, but when it comes to the fnal I think it should always be played in the main county ground regardless of who is involved. It's the showpiece event.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 04, 2021, 12:09:36 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Any thoughts on who gets the final. Toland again?

For my money the best ref in the county is that McDonald chap from St Galls I think. Explains his decisions and generally makes the right call.

Mckeown you mean?
;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 12:02:46 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 03, 2021, 07:06:52 PM
Surely it will be corrigan.

Sw or city ref?

Confirmed for corrigan
Sunday 14th November @2.30

Right decision for me. I thought the Creggan semi final would have been better in PG1 or Ahoghill or somewhere, but when it comes to the fnal I think it should always be played in the main county ground regardless of who is involved. It's the showpiece event.

No doubt, and sure it's only a wee half hour scoot up the motorways for both teams, couldn't have worked out better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2021, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:24:54 AM
Ref gave few strange calls to both teams I thought. Tomas free in 2nd half looked soft from behind the goals.Goes both ways. Cargin not scoring from play for a full half and going 17mins at all without a score was a shock to all. Don't think ref can be to blame for that. Final should be cracking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Any thoughts on who gets the final. Toland again?

For my money the best ref in the county is that McDonald chap from St Galls I think. Explains his decisions and generally makes the right call.

Red cards successfully  appealed two years running in big games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Any thoughts on who gets the final. Toland again?

For my money the best ref in the county is that McDonald chap from St Galls I think. Explains his decisions and generally makes the right call.

Red cards successfully  appealed two years running in big games?

Not sure what those incidents you refer to were, but I've seen many a legitimate red successfully appealed due to the rules which simply aren't fit for purpose.

No ref is perfect, they all make mistakes. I was just saying on balance if I had to rank them he'd be top of my list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2021, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:24:54 AM
Ref gave few strange calls to both teams I thought. Tomas free in 2nd half looked soft from behind the goals.Goes both ways. Cargin not scoring from play for a full half and going 17mins at all without a score was a shock to all. Don't think ref can be to blame for that. Final should be cracking

Creggan only scored twice from play in the second half....they had easy enough access for the other 7, all from frees awarded from close range, and several head scratchers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 01:16:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 04, 2021, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 04, 2021, 11:24:54 AM
Ref gave few strange calls to both teams I thought. Tomas free in 2nd half looked soft from behind the goals.Goes both ways. Cargin not scoring from play for a full half and going 17mins at all without a score was a shock to all. Don't think ref can be to blame for that. Final should be cracking

Creggan only scored twice from play in the second half....they had easy enough access for the other 7, all from frees awarded from close range, and several head scratchers.

Is that right? Wow, didn't realise it was as extreme as that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 10:56:17 AM
I believe the GAA should bring in a rule that you can only manage your own club. I don't like this business of paid outside managers at all. For me it definitely devalues any success a club has. Totally understand why some clubs feel they need to do it but I don't think it should be permitted.

In theory that's great snd would agree. Couple of North Antrim club im aware had that put into the club constitution and the way around it was making the outside manager a "paying" member of the club. Clubs will always find a way around it.

Coupe surprising merry go rounds in div2 if info i received this morning is correct, a superb Cargin player in my days and ex manager of them  to go to the near neighbours in div2? Ex Johnnies manager to go back to Crumlin and the young lad who was there few years ago with  soccer background back to Ballymena? Another young lad from moneyglass  to Glenravel ?

All hearsay at this time of the year and could be BS. Follow the money I suppose...

As for top refs in football? Laverty, McDonald, McKeown and Robert's (potential to be better) for me.

I don't think any team beat this year can solely blame ref for losing. Ref never gave ball away or kicked it wide. Lazy excuse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 10:56:17 AM
I believe the GAA should bring in a rule that you can only manage your own club. I don't like this business of paid outside managers at all. For me it definitely devalues any success a club has. Totally understand why some clubs feel they need to do it but I don't think it should be permitted.

In theory that's great snd would agree. Couple of North Antrim club im aware had that put into the club constitution and the way around it was making the outside manager a "paying" member of the club. Clubs will always find a way around it.

What about Karol Doc, McCauley, Totes?

Coupe surprising merry go rounds in div2 if info i received this morning is correct, a superb Cargin player in my days and ex manager of them  to go to the near neighbours in div2? Ex Johnnies manager to go back to Crumlin and the young lad who was there few years ago with  soccer background back to Ballymena? Another young lad from moneyglass  to Glenravel ?

All hearsay at this time of the year and could be BS. Follow the money I suppose...

As for top refs in football? Laverty, McDonald, McKeown and Robert's (potential to be better) for me.

I don't think any team beat this year can solely blame ref for losing. Ref never gave ball away or kicked it wide. Lazy excuse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 10:56:17 AM
I believe the GAA should bring in a rule that you can only manage your own club. I don't like this business of paid outside managers at all. For me it definitely devalues any success a club has. Totally understand why some clubs feel they need to do it but I don't think it should be permitted.

In theory that's great snd would agree. Couple of North Antrim club im aware had that put into the club constitution and the way around it was making the outside manager a "paying" member of the club. Clubs will always find a way around it.

What about Karol Doc, McCauley, Totes?

Coupe surprising merry go rounds in div2 if info i received this morning is correct, a superb Cargin player in my days and ex manager of them  to go to the near neighbours in div2? Ex Johnnies manager to go back to Crumlin and the young lad who was there few years ago with  soccer background back to Ballymena? Another young lad from moneyglass  to Glenravel ?

All hearsay at this time of the year and could be BS. Follow the money I suppose...

As for top refs in football? Laverty, McDonald, McKeown and Robert's (potential to be better) for me.

I don't think any team beat this year can solely blame ref for losing. Ref never gave ball away or kicked it wide. Lazy excuse.


All very good refs also, just think others slightly ahead. Matter of opinion suppose and side of a fiver between them. .

I think we're very lucky with refs at the moment.

If you recall back 20/30 years ago, the standard is night and day compared to now. Fitness and decision making is fantastic, always going to get some things wrong. If you think how many decisions a ref has to make in a game and percentage of what they get right I think they're doing excellent job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 04, 2021, 01:56:53 PM
Colm mcdonald is ref. On the county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 04, 2021, 03:08:23 PM
You guys are all very hard on Antrim refs, particularly when you lose! Give the volunteers a break
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 04, 2021, 03:08:23 PM
You guys are all very hard on Antrim refs, particularly when you lose! Give the volunteers a break


I've already acknowledged it's a difficult job, and fair play to them for doing it. My own club didn't lose so my comments on the semi final I was at aren't sour grapes, just a neutral making an honest assessment.

The video evidence supports my view, and I don't think it's unreasonable to question blatantly unfair decisions like that. In fact we should be doing so in an attempt to raise standards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
What sort of condition is the pitch in at Corrigan? I think a heavier pitch will suit Creggan. They're a big physical team. Plenty of pace too. Maybe one step too far for our lads this year but we are up in the mix now and will hopefully stay there for the foreseeable!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
What sort of condition is the pitch in at Corrigan? I think a heavier pitch will suit Creggan. They're a big physical team. Plenty of pace too. Maybe one step too far for our lads this year but we are up in the mix now and will hopefully stay there for the foreseeable!

Mind games started already  😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 04:11:23 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 04, 2021, 04:05:28 PM
Hoof,you heard any news on managerial roundabout

No nothing, all very cryptic up above isn't it, apart from  nugent to Aldergrove
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2021, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
What sort of condition is the pitch in at Corrigan? I think a heavier pitch will suit Creggan. They're a big physical team. Plenty of pace too. Maybe one step too far for our lads this year but we are up in the mix now and will hopefully stay there for the foreseeable!

Mind games started already  😉

I thought it's an accurate enough assessment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
Now that the ref has been appointed, its only fair for me to have a chat on this thread. I've always came away from the thread during championship

Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card.

As for the Gerard McCann hit, on reflection or after 3 views I understand why that would be looked at as a fair challenge, the ref has one second to call it, positionally had I been in a better place it could have been called differently so I'll take that one on the chin, but a tight call all the same.

I'm not sure what game CB was watching with those 'facts' I've watched it back recorded, timed and where the tackles happened and what came of them.

Cargin unusually missed a couple of easy frees for them, Tomas dropped one short and young Pat pulled one to the right of the post, very unlike the pair of them and Mick also missed from open play from about 21 yards out the right.

I wish Colm al the best, as said already on here, a very good ref and hopefully both teams allow him and his officials to do their job, we won't keep everyone happy, but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
He got the 2017 final, but in recent years our own Eamon McAuley has been ruled out of the final for obvious reasons. Surely he could of got a shot at it with Cargin out, instead of the same old same old.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 04:52:12 PM
As you are the man in the know MR2 who is the refs two sidekicks for the final

BTW didn't see the Cargin game at all but have to assume by all comments in here you got it all wong  ;)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
Now that the ref has been appointed, its only fair for me to have a chat on this thread. I've always came away from the thread during championship

Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card.

As for the Gerard McCann hit, on reflection or after 3 views I understand why that would be looked at as a fair challenge, the ref has one second to call it, positionally had I been in a better place it could have been called differently so I'll take that one on the chin, but a tight call all the same.

I'm not sure what game CB was watching with those 'facts' I've watched it back recorded, timed and where the tackles happened and what came of them.

Cargin unusually missed a couple of easy frees for them, Tomas dropped one short and young Pat pulled one to the right of the post, very unlike the pair of them and Mick also missed from open play from about 21 yards out the right.

I wish Colm al the best, as said already on here, a very good ref and hopefully both teams allow him and his officials to do their job, we won't keep everyone happy, but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 04, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM

but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday


;D ;D ;D spot on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
He got the 2017 final, but in recent years our own Eamon McAuley has been ruled out of the final for obvious reasons. Surely he could of got a shot at it with Cargin out, instead of the same old same old.

Eamonn is a bit like Skinny, if you team is in the final then he'll  not get that op, its unfortunate and the same happened for our ref during that period of dominance. Eamon did the Johnnies and Lamhs final, not for the faint hearted, did a grand job too. This year (non bias) I feel it was a toss up between a few refs, Sean Colm Karol and maybe one or two others..

You couldn't begrudge Colm this appointment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 04, 2021, 05:07:43 PM
You can't fault the preparation which is put into getting the ref ready for the county final, driving around all year to different games with the men who give out the big appointments if not appointing yourself to a county final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 04, 2021, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
Now that the ref has been appointed, its only fair for me to have a chat on this thread. I've always came away from the thread during championship

Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card.

As for the Gerard McCann hit, on reflection or after 3 views I understand why that would be looked at as a fair challenge, the ref has one second to call it, positionally had I been in a better place it could have been called differently so I'll take that one on the chin, but a tight call all the same.

I'm not sure what game CB was watching with those 'facts' I've watched it back recorded, timed and where the tackles happened and what came of them.

Cargin unusually missed a couple of easy frees for them, Tomas dropped one short and young Pat pulled one to the right of the post, very unlike the pair of them and Mick also missed from open play from about 21 yards out the right.

I wish Colm al the best, as said already on here, a very good ref and hopefully both teams allow him and his officials to do their job, we won't keep everyone happy, but we have a course every year for new ref's that are interested, you can PM me details and I'll forward them on to the referees panel. the quality of the armchair ref is of a very high standard and would be useful on days like Sunday

The big hit is /was a marginal call, and probably one of the tougher decisions to make on the day. I personally would have no issues if it wasn't called a foul as I feel the should hits are slowly ebbing away from football, )but are still present in hurling).

There are photos that indicate that the hit happened just in the front into the side chest not shoulder to shoulder. McCann clearly made a genuine attempt for a clean hit, so it was a tough one. Still not a big turning point, as our lad recovered straight away and was in the process of picking up the ball under no pressure before he realized it was a free, so the decision didn't prevent a turn over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 05:46:39 PM
"Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card"


How many frees in scoreable positions inside the 45 for each side? A free on the halfway line is very different from a tapover free in front of the posts....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 05:46:39 PM
"Free count exactly the same for both teams, Cargin won 11 free's in the first half Creggan won 12, no technical fouls, Cargin had a few more advantage calls, one of which led to the goal. Creggan also picked up a yellow card, no notes or cards for Cargin.

Second half Cargin won more frees 11 frees to Creggan's 10. (even overall) Cargin had one for overcarrying call while Creggan had 1 throw ball and one overcarrying call also another yellow card"


How many frees in scoreable positions inside the 45 for each side? A free on the halfway line is very different from a tapover free in front of the posts....

In the second half alone, Cargin had 6 inside or on the 45... Tomas hit one dropped short about 10 feet, Pat missed from the D, Mick hit one short and at the death hit one short, the other two they scored. Watch it back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 04, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Colm is a good lad. Does he know how it goes if the match is a draw after extra time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 04, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Colm is a good lad. Does he know how it goes if the match is a draw after extra time?

He'll be grand, this is a great game with no baggage for both team, there's no history between them and both can play. After 13 years Colm has his first final, more than earned, but sure some here know best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 04, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Colm is a good lad. Does he know how it goes if the match is a draw after extra time?

He'll be grand, this is a great game with no baggage for both team, there's no history between them and both can play. After 13 years Colm has his first final, more than earned, but sure some here know best

Shocked to hear that's his first final. I thought he did the Cargin/Creggan or Johnnies/Hannahstown a few years back. He did a super job of the hurling final last year. Would like to see more of the Laverty's/Doherty/McAuley if this world get trained up to ref some hurling also. I think they would be super at it. Maybe just me, I think football refereeing standard slightly better than hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 08:32:15 PM
Thanks for the PM with the referee details MR2. Can't wait to get stuck in next year. I hear the mileage rate is decent! Anyone know where I could get a jacuzzi?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 08:35:33 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 04, 2021, 08:32:15 PM
Thanks for the PM with the referee details MR2. Can't wait to get stuck in next year. I hear the mileage rate is decent! Anyone know where I could get a jacuzzi?

The PM's are flooding in  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 08:44:47 PM
Forget being a ref. Be a paid manager and get to verbally abuse refs instead 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2021, 08:49:32 PM
You'd get a stalker on this forum too :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 04, 2021, 08:55:33 PM
Rich coming from me but too much ref chat on here!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 08:58:07 PM
Yeah I'd much prefer to talk about the next game tbf, how do you see it panning out ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2021, 08:49:32 PM
You'd get a stalker on this forum too :D

🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 09:13:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 08:58:07 PM
Yeah I'd much prefer to talk about the next game tbf, how do you see it panning out ?

I think Creggan will just shade it. They've lost a few and they will be wanting to rectify that.

Creggan by 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 04, 2021, 08:55:33 PM
Rich coming from me but too much ref chat on here!!
That's probably because there's 5 or 6 serving referees who constantly post on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 04, 2021, 08:55:33 PM
Rich coming from me but too much ref chat on here!!
That's probably because there's 5 or 6 serving referees who constantly post on here

I'm on here as a ref, I know one more, who are the other serving refs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on November 04, 2021, 09:24:39 PM
Creggan have the experience of playing in recent finals and the hurt of losing another will really drive them on,they have quality , physicality and pace all over the pitch with a decent bench to back it up.Aghagallon have a spread of good players also but probably not enough all over the pitch to get the match-ups balanced and I expect Creggan to boss the middle third so Aghagallon will need to be really good at the back to keep in the game as long as possible ,if they are still in the game with 10 to go this game could go anyway,but Kickhams are favourites for a reason and it's really theirs to loss .Best of luck to both and I hope it's a good open game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 04, 2021, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 04, 2021, 08:55:33 PM
Rich coming from me but too much ref chat on here!!
That's probably because there's 5 or 6 serving referees who constantly post on here

I'm on here as a ref, I know one more, who are the other serving refs?
Not my fault you can't work it out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 04, 2021, 09:35:24 PM
I give Aghagallon a chance but if given a free bet I'd go Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 04, 2021, 09:44:33 PM
The odds are about right, Creggan 1/3 aghagallon 2/1.

Would take an off day for Creggan to lose, the experience of losing a few finals will be enough motivation to prevent them dropping their guard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 04, 2021, 09:47:22 PM
Think the game will be tight but creggan to edge it by a few. Creggan the more powerful team but aghagallon might have the better forwards on the day given that quinn and small are missing. Will be an interesting contest and may come down to who can start the 1st 10/15 minutes the best. Creggan could blow them out of the water but equally walsh and loughran could run absolute riot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 04, 2021, 09:59:00 AM
Been a while since I made comment on this board but like more than a few others I await explanation from .
MR2 as to the 'mistakes be made during that game I  question.
Without doubt Cargin did under perform on Sunday but the stats for the second thirty minutes do tell a tale.
Cargin  were awarded a huge 4 frees in that period, Creggan got 16.......to include several eye raising decisions which caused the linesman to shake his head.

So did any one watch the game back and notice that there was just 4 frees awarded to Cargin in the second half?  As someone who writes up reports on these games I'd be very mindful of your stat taking and match reports going forward ;)

I've listed them here CB, One questionable free, I'll give you that, it had no bearing on a game that Cargin only scored 2 points in the second half, of which they were awarded two 14 yard frees, one of those free's Creggan felt was very soft at the time. I'm happy to discuss it on private messages with you.

I would look elsewhere as to why Cargin didn't get over the line, being five points up on a couple of occasions in the first half. Steamrolling us in the quarterfinal gave you no preparation for Creggan,  and even with the jittery start for Creggan, they managed to get a foothold in the game and their momentum was winning the breaks and taking the scores.

Over the course of the game it was a fair result, on Gerard's hit I'll take that, possibly could have held off the whistle for a second or two more.

Cargin will be back again next year that's for sure, The Johnnies beat them one year and Cargin won 3 on the trot, so don't poke the bear too much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 01:10:43 PM
All I'll say is that myself and 4 or 5 other neutrals(from different clubs) watched the match together and all agreed there were a number of highly questionable decisions which all favoured Creggan.

The shoulder

A strange call for either overcarrying or charging (hard to know what it was for) on a Cargin player in the 2nd half while he had three men clearly fouling him.

A blind eye turned to obvious handling the ball on the ground in the lead up to Creggan's final score(again video evidence is clear on this infringement)

Multiple occasions where the whistle blew for a Creggan free upon some coming together immediately, yet at the other end play rumbled on for a long time before a free was belatedly given, or sometimes not given. There seemed to be a distinct difference in the speed of the whistle depending on which team had the ball.



Anyway, let's hope the final isn't spoiled by officiating, looking forward to a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 05, 2021, 01:47:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

so to summarise you called MR2 out to explain decisions, when he did you weren't happy with his answers. you then criticise him for trying to give a honest opinion on things by saying other referees dont do it? cant really have it both ways can you?

Fair play for him for not ducking it, referees make mistakes, do you hammer all players for making mistakes in the game, maybe giving away a few cheap fouls or stray passes that lead to scores? ive seen far far more games turn on player mistakes than referees, yet its always the referee getting the crap after. Easier to criticise someone outside the team/ club than looking to those in the circle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 05, 2021, 01:47:49 PM
Man calls for explanation on decisions
Man gets explanation on decisions
Man doesnt agree with them
Man states its ridiculous what goes on in here

Another man scratches his head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 01:49:51 PM
People not asking for mr2 to explain his decisions and now your complaining when he does it? Lol

I for one think it's refreshing to see the referees perspective, usually can never get a word out of the refs. He even admitted that a call or 2 he made may have been wrong so fair play to him.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 05, 2021, 01:52:31 PM
Jesus Christ the night ;D
Totally agree geezer and QYJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 05, 2021, 01:57:06 PM
Ive had a few friendly digs with MR2 over the years but hes the balls to come on and try to justify his decisions

Too much talk about refs - its because youve one on here and yis are at him steady for his view even when hes not involved never mind when he is. Einstein wouldnt be in it

Anyway, feel a bit dirty now as hes nahin but a heure 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 05, 2021, 01:57:06 PM
Ive had a few friendly digs with MR2 over the years but hes the balls to come on and try to justify his decisions

Too much talk about refs - its because youve one on here and yis are at him steady for his view even when hes not involved never mind when he is. Einstein wouldnt be in it

Anyway, feel a bit dirty now as hes nahin but a heure 😃

You Lurgan lot are dirty halions anyways
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 05, 2021, 02:02:29 PM
Not even right County MR2 but im playin nice today 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
If your team wins, the ref if the best in the county.
If your team loses, its the refs fault.
And thats the way it will be until the end of time

Maybe, just maybe only scoring 0-2 in a half when you have the mccans, shivers, gribben etc is the reason cargin lost? But sure blame the ref 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
If your team wins, the ref if the best in the county.
If your team loses, its the refs fault.
And thats the way it will be until the end of time

Maybe, just maybe only scoring 0-2 in a half when you have the mccans, shivers, gribben etc is the reason cargin lost? But sure blame the ref 😃
Who blamed the ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:30:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
If your team wins, the ref if the best in the county.
If your team loses, its the refs fault.
And thats the way it will be until the end of time

Maybe, just maybe only scoring 0-2 in a half when you have the mccans, shivers, gribben etc is the reason cargin lost? But sure blame the ref 😃
Who blamed the ref?

Your previous post seems to suggest it. Who is to blame for the mighty cargin getting beat then? Cassidy?
Players?
Ref?
Creggan just the better team?

There has to be some excuse so what is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 05, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
If your team wins, the ref if the best in the county.
If your team loses, its the refs fault.
And thats the way it will be until the end of time

Maybe, just maybe only scoring 0-2 in a half when you have the mccans, shivers, gribben etc is the reason cargin lost? But sure blame the ref 😃
Who blamed the ref?

Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

What a ridiculous post.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 02:35:46 PM
I don't think people were making excuses, I think most  people agree Creggan deserved their win. The concerns were raised over a number of questionable refereeing decisions at crucial moments which all seemed to favour one side over the other. As a concerned neutral, I don't think it was an acceptable performance at Senior Championship level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

What a ridiculous post.
Hows that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:43:40 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:30:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
If your team wins, the ref if the best in the county.
If your team loses, its the refs fault.
And thats the way it will be until the end of time

Maybe, just maybe only scoring 0-2 in a half when you have the mccans, shivers, gribben etc is the reason cargin lost? But sure blame the ref 😃
Who blamed the ref?

Your previous post seems to suggest it. Who is to blame for the mighty cargin getting beat then? Cassidy?
Players?
Ref?
Creggan just the better team?

There has to be some excuse so what is it?
Seems to suggest it? No one blamed MR2 for our defeat, just calling out a poor performance from him with some bizarre calls. Are referees immune from criticism or is it just players and managers who can be criticised? You can read back and see I said Creggan deserved to go through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2021, 02:47:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 05, 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

What a ridiculous post.
Hows that?

As said above by others. You call him out and then when he explains his decisions, you criticise him for doing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:48:58 PM
You asked him to explain his decisions and he did then you went on about cavan and tyrone boards! Made no sense whatsoever.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:43:40 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:30:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
If your team wins, the ref if the best in the county.
If your team loses, its the refs fault.
And thats the way it will be until the end of time

Maybe, just maybe only scoring 0-2 in a half when you have the mccans, shivers, gribben etc is the reason cargin lost? But sure blame the ref 😃
Who blamed the ref?

Your previous post seems to suggest it. Who is to blame for the mighty cargin getting beat then? Cassidy?
Players?
Ref?
Creggan just the better team?

There has to be some excuse so what is it?
Seems to suggest it? No one blamed MR2 for our defeat, just calling out a poor performance from him with some bizarre calls. Are referees immune from criticism or is it just players and managers who can be criticised? You can read back and see I said Creggan deserved to go through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Nobody makes suggestion that you were responsible for Cargin losing but nobody in Toome will forget how you found 9 minutes plus injury time in the second period of the 2019 decider.
Or why such concluded when L D grabbed the equaliser....

Each time you have officiated in a Cargin game such is always clouded with controversy.

Even us Culchies ca  take opportunity to review the game and to jog your memory.
Creggan scored 9 points in the second period to include 6 from frees all awarded less than  40 metres from the Cargin  posts with several hugely controversial

Will pass no further comment on this issue....just to say you were spotted in attendance when Cargin played their opening game in Ulster club 2019....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Nobody makes suggestion that you were responsible for Cargin losing but nobody in Toome will forget how you found 9 minutes plus injury time in the second period of the 2019 decider.
Or why such concluded when L D grabbed the equaliser....

Each time you have officiated in a Cargin game such is always clouded with controversy.

Even us Culchies ca  take opportunity to review the game and to jog your memory.
Creggan scored 9 points in the second period to include 6 from frees all awarded less than  40 metres from the Cargin  posts with several hugely controversial

Will pass no further comment on this issue....just to say you were spotted in attendance when Cargin played their opening game in Ulster club 2019....



Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 02:35:46 PM
I don't think people were making excuses, I think most  people agree Creggan deserved their win. The concerns were raised over a number of questionable refereeing decisions at crucial moments which all seemed to favour one side over the other. As a concerned neutral, I don't think it was an acceptable performance at Senior Championship level.

Like I said before, you can PM me details and I'll pass them on to the relevant officers and they will arrange for you to do the course. either here or Tyrone. You'd be amazing at it, I'd say Lleyton Hewitt standard, no where near the best tennis playing standards of Novak  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Nobody makes suggestion that you were responsible for Cargin losing but nobody in Toome will forget how you found 9 minutes plus injury time in the second period of the 2019 decider.
Or why such concluded when L D grabbed the equaliser....

Each time you have officiated in a Cargin game such is always clouded with controversy.

Even us Culchies ca  take opportunity to review the game and to jog your memory.
Creggan scored 9 points in the second period to include 6 from frees all awarded less than  40 metres from the Cargin  posts with several hugely controversial

Will pass no further comment on this issue....just to say you were spotted in attendance when Cargin played their opening game in Ulster club 2019....



Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 02:35:46 PM
I don't think people were making excuses, I think most  people agree Creggan deserved their win. The concerns were raised over a number of questionable refereeing decisions at crucial moments which all seemed to favour one side over the other. As a concerned neutral, I don't think it was an acceptable performance at Senior Championship level.

Like I said before, you can PM me details and I'll pass them on to the relevant officers and they will arrange for you to do the course. either here or Tyrone. You'd be amazing at it, I'd say Lleyton Hewitt standard, no where near the best tennis playing standards of Novak  :D

Not sure what the tennis reference.is about, but disappointing to see the tired old defence of "you do the course".

If I see incompetence I'm entitled to call it out, I don't have to take up a whistle to do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Nobody makes suggestion that you were responsible for Cargin losing but nobody in Toome will forget how you found 9 minutes plus injury time in the second period of the 2019 decider.
Or why such concluded when L D grabbed the equaliser....

Each time you have officiated in a Cargin game such is always clouded with controversy.

Even us Culchies ca  take opportunity to review the game and to jog your memory.
Creggan scored 9 points in the second period to include 6 from frees all awarded less than  40 metres from the Cargin  posts with several hugely controversial

Will pass no further comment on this issue....just to say you were spotted in attendance when Cargin played their opening game in Ulster club 2019....

Those free stats confirm my thoughts, thanks for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 05, 2021, 03:11:03 PM
the referees who referee our club games are heroes for doing it plain and simple and We would have no games only for them . they have no action replays so mistakes will happen
cut them a bit of slack ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Nobody makes suggestion that you were responsible for Cargin losing but nobody in Toome will forget how you found 9 minutes plus injury time in the second period of the 2019 decider.
Or why such concluded when L D grabbed the equaliser....

Each time you have officiated in a Cargin game such is always clouded with controversy.

Even us Culchies ca  take opportunity to review the game and to jog your memory.
Creggan scored 9 points in the second period to include 6 from frees all awarded less than  40 metres from the Cargin  posts with several hugely controversial

Will pass no further comment on this issue....just to say you were spotted in attendance when Cargin played their opening game in Ulster club 2019....

WTF does this even mean? I follow all our teams in Ulster, hurling and football...I'm cheering on our teams, not the away teams!

It was 8 minutes and watch it back, you'll see I stopped my watch for every break, Cargin's first championship loss with me looking after the game, come on, ya have to do better than that.

As the song says, let it go, let it go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 05, 2021, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
As above for me, I agree with all that..

We have to draw a line under it and move on, on a final note I called MR2 out to explain things only as I know he is on here. Wouldn't be satisfied with any of explanations. What we scored or missed is irrelevant by the way. Foul counts are also irrelevant. Its the big calls at the big times that decide games.

On a final note just looked through Tyrone and Cavan threads there and I cant see Martin Hurson or Joe McQuillan on there anywhere explaining their decisions or giving a summary on how one team won or lost the game. Ridiculous what goes on here

You can't have it both ways, ones we're asking why the calls were given, I'm not hiding either. My officiating didn't lose the game, if you believe that then fine. I've no axe to grind, it suits though others to find other reasons for losing. I can't think of any tbf.

Nobody makes suggestion that you were responsible for Cargin losing but nobody in Toome will forget how you found 9 minutes plus injury time in the second period of the 2019 decider.
Or why such concluded when L D grabbed the equaliser....

Each time you have officiated in a Cargin game such is always clouded with controversy.

Even us Culchies ca  take opportunity to review the game and to jog your memory.
Creggan scored 9 points in the second period to include 6 from frees all awarded less than  40 metres from the Cargin  posts with several hugely controversial

Will pass no further comment on this issue....just to say you were spotted in attendance when Cargin played their opening game in Ulster club 2019....

WTF does this even mean? I follow all our teams in Ulster, hurling and football...I'm cheering on our teams, not the away teams!

It was 8 minutes and watch it back, you'll see I stopped my watch for every break, Cargin's first championship loss with me looking after the game, come on, ya have to do better than that.

As the song says, let it go, let it go

What he's trying to say is you are not allowed to watch any matches at all, only go to the ones you referee!!!!! He's an idiot, stop wasting your time on him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
Did you have your Derrygonnelly top on you MR  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 05, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
First rule of war, know your enemy, MR2 has been lining up bringing down Cargin for some time

On a serious note I would think his pay masters in Totes and your man McKauige would have much love for Cargin being LD men  ???, just saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 05, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
Did you have your Derrygonnelly top on you MR  ;D
.
No top but was with his mates from the Hill just in front of a couple of Cargin  lads and he certainly was not in green.

Cheered a lot but perhaps he thought Cargin had changed their colours......or maybe not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 04:49:37 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 05, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
First rule of war, know your enemy, MR2 has been lining up bringing down Cargin for some time

On a serious note I would think his pay masters in Totes and your man McKauige would have much love for Cargin being LD men  ???, just saying

Ah, are we getting to the real reason here? Seriously lads, get over yourselves, no one cares who wins.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 05:06:24 PM
Working with a wee lad on creggan panel today, they obviously have their heads screwed on and well coached on small talk. Gave the usual it'll be tight and Aghagallon are good side, both possibly true but I got feeling they've been instructed!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2021, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 05:06:24 PM
Working with a wee lad on creggan panel today, they obviously have their heads screwed on and well coached on small talk. Gave the usual it'll be tight and Aghagallon are good side, both possibly true but I got feeling they've been instructed!

It could be a tanking very handy. Is this their 3rd final in 4 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 05, 2021, 05:14:52 PM
Jeez lads this is becoming ridiculous. I've heard people give off about MR2 before for not being strong enough to the McCanns and giving them soft frees amd got them out of jail in championship matches before with it (which is nonsense also). The only reason I'm saying it is that it shows people will always look for excuses and if MR2 wasn't from the club he was I doubt the Toome boys be giving off as much. I remember a game in championship where they were winning by 20 plus points and still giving off abuse about referees when the opposition got  couple scores. I have some good friends in Toome who are embarrassed by a section of the support and the abuse they give to officials. A great club with great success, beaten by a better team. Accept your defeat with grace. The great teams usually do, you are better than coming to this for why you were beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2021, 05:40:37 PM
Aghagallon and Creggan u15s in the Breslin Final and this weekend too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 05:06:24 PM
Working with a wee lad on creggan panel today, they obviously have their heads screwed on and well coached on small talk. Gave the usual it'll be tight and Aghagallon are good side, both possibly true but I got feeling they've been instructed!
Of the Creggan people I have met they; have the week booked off after, it's in the bag, aghagallon we're lucky to qualify out of their group etc. And I'm not joking. This is not players saying this it was supporters but that's Creggan's main threat, thinking sub consciously it's already won. But I'm sure McNulty working on this already.
It's set up to be a good game between two good teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 05, 2021, 06:05:23 PM
They would need to be careful, starting to sound abit like their neighbours Cargin. Supporters chirping about the run they were going to have in Ulster this year maybe affected the squad at the weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 06:41:05 PM
I would say both the previous posters have fair points there. Cargin minds definitely seemed focussed on Ulster this year, maybe a case of taking the eye off the ball a wee bit.

I've also gotten the impression that quite a few folk round Creggan see this final as a mere formality and there's a danger there that they've played their final already in a way, having finally gotten one over their old foes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 09:24:43 PM
Knowing the creggan people I know I would be very surprised if over confidence and being assured of winning is the way they are thinking. If it is they'll be chinned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 05, 2021, 09:28:18 PM
Was that what happened PG1 RC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 09:46:05 PM
I couldn't know for sure but I wouldn't rule it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:31:18 PM
Duine that's dangerous feckin language, care to explain!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:36:16 PM
Therefore you don't support our county teams duine?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
Rossa? Yeah?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:43:35 PM
I'm sure if I dug deep enough!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:43:35 PM
I'm sure if I dug deep enough!!!

Pop corn ready
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:51:25 PM
My club no more than any other has cheated. If history be read I have a very trusted relative who would say that the premier club were the very first to offer or give payment in the late eighties/early nineties to hurling stars as they tried to win an All Ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 10:58:35 PM
Well I've as much proof of yours as you have of mine.
Can we not just accept that it happens in every club  and move on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:01:37 PM
Name the club it doesn't happen in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:05:50 PM
You deflecting from my previous example. That was worse, paying players!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:08:02 PM
Prove it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:10:38 PM
Well prove any club ever paid a manager!
Good night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2021, 11:16:39 PM
Get a room ffs. Pair of tubes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner

I dont know if there is a rule or not about paying managers, genuinely dont. But if a club raises funds via lotto, fundraisers etc then what is the problem with them using that money to pay a manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
I've spent my last half hour going through clubs in Antrim and then I moved to Derry, I have a wee bit of knowledge of the tyrone scene, couldn't come up with one club that havent had an outsider managing them. Senior this is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner


I dont know if there is a rule or not about paying managers, genuinely dont. But if a club raises funds via lotto, fundraisers etc then what is the problem with them using that money to pay a manager?
It would be against the rules just.


Maybe rossa need to start breaking the rules to win the hurling 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
I've spent my last half hour going through clubs in Antrim and then I moved to Derry, I have a wee bit of knowledge of the tyrone scene, couldn't come up with one club that havent had an outsider managing them. Senior this is.
Not even Rossa?

Who did the Johnnies have?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner


I dont know if there is a rule or not about paying managers, genuinely dont. But if a club raises funds via lotto, fundraisers etc then what is the problem with them using that money to pay a manager?
It would be against the rules just.


Maybe rossa need to start breaking the rules to win the hurling 😃
There are plenty breaking them and not getting near it....

Lol i know, just joking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:34:06 PM

Trend setters
Peter McGinnity
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
I've spent my last half hour going through clubs in Antrim and then I moved to Derry, I have a wee bit of knowledge of the tyrone scene, couldn't come up with one club that havent had an outsider managing them. Senior this is.
Not even Rossa?

Who did the Johnnies have?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner

I dont know if there is a rule or not about paying managers, genuinely dont. But if a club raises funds via lotto, fundraisers etc then what is the problem with them using that money to pay a manager?
It would be against the rules just.
..

Fouling an opponent is cheating. Play-acting is cheating. Curious that you're perfectly comfortable supporting a team who do both yet pontificate about cheating to others, but I guess you've made your peace with your rank hypocrisy....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 05, 2021, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
I've spent my last half hour going through clubs in Antrim and then I moved to Derry, I have a wee bit of knowledge of the tyrone scene, couldn't come up with one club that havent had an outsider managing them. Senior this is.
Not even Rossa?

Who did the Johnnies have?

Eamon Blaney
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:46:44 PM
Do you think cargin would have had the success over recent years if they had a club man in and not cassidy. Im 99.9% sure they would have at least 2 cships.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:46:44 PM
Do you think cargin would have had the success over recent years if they had a club man in and not cassidy. Im 99.9% sure they would have at least 2 cships.

JC won a championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner

I dont know if there is a rule or not about paying managers, genuinely dont. But if a club raises funds via lotto, fundraisers etc then what is the problem with them using that money to pay a manager?
It would be against the rules just.
..

Fouling an opponent is cheating. Play-acting is cheating. Curious that you're perfectly comfortable supporting a team who do both yet pontificate about cheating to others but I guess you've made your peace with your rank hypocrisy....
:-[
Embarrassing the lengths people will go to defend this. Have a word with yourself.

Fouling ffs  ;D


Had a word with myself there. We both agreed you're on shaky ground with the cherry picking approach to what sort of cheating is ok and what isn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 11:49:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
I've spent my last half hour going through clubs in Antrim and then I moved to Derry, I have a wee bit of knowledge of the tyrone scene, couldn't come up with one club that havent had an outsider managing them. Senior this is.
Not even Rossa?

Who did the Johnnies have?
Peter McKeever from Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:46:44 PM
Do you think cargin would have had the success over recent years if they had a club man in and not cassidy. Im 99.9% sure they would have at least 2 cships.

JC won a championship

Oh i know. Point im trying to make is it doesnt matter if it was cassidy in or someone from their club. They would still in as they are that good a team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:54:26 PM
Geezer I agree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 05, 2021, 11:57:31 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2021, 11:49:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 05, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
I've spent my last half hour going through clubs in Antrim and then I moved to Derry, I have a wee bit of knowledge of the tyrone scene, couldn't come up with one club that havent had an outsider managing them. Senior this is.
Not even Rossa?

Who did the Johnnies have?
Peter McKeever from Armagh

No, Mckeever won intermediate championship with the Super T's , wasn't with johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:58:55 PM
I'm not defending anything. If you read back through my posts you will see I would like the introduction of a rule whereby you can only manage your own club.

If it makes you feel better about yourself, by all means give us another emoji though...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 06, 2021, 12:01:34 AM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:58:55 PM
I'm not defending anything. If you read back through my posts you will see I would like the introduction of a rule whereby you can only manage your own club.

If it makes you feel better about yourself, by all means give us another emoji though...

Errigal ciaran would have a quare management team if that were the case!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 12:01:50 AM
FFS man I was staying out of this one, yes please however look back at the definition of illegal and unlawful

Not a QC btw only a lowly lecturer

author=Duine Inteacht Eile link=topic=21.msg2084802#msg2084802 date=1636156477]
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 05, 2021, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 05, 2021, 11:32:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 05, 2021, 11:16:51 PM
Hypothetically, if a glenravel man took the clubs seniors but lived in belfast and he was paid a bit for travel. Would that be cheating?

Travel expenses are fine regardless of where they live, phone usage back in the day was a good money spinner

I dont know if there is a rule or not about paying managers, genuinely dont. But if a club raises funds via lotto, fundraisers etc then what is the problem with them using that money to pay a manager?
It would be against the rules just.
..

Fouling an opponent is cheating. Play-acting is cheating. Curious that you're perfectly comfortable supporting a team who do both yet pontificate about cheating to others but I guess you've made your peace with your rank hypocrisy....
:-[
Embarrassing the lengths people will go to defend this. Have a word with yourself.

Fouling ffs  ;D


Had a word with myself there. We both agreed you're on shaky ground with the cherry picking approach to what sorry of cheating is ok and what isn't.
;D
A club making a considered decision to illegally (GAA rules or otherwise for Calm Down QC) pay a salary to a manager v a mistimed tackle from a wing back.

I agree, there really isn't much of a difference there.... ::)

There are no limits to the defence of this.....
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 12:08:58 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 12:05:44 AM
Lecturer? That's a bit disappointing.
You came across as though you had much more to offer than that.

You sound like my wife!

Double edged sword I could have chosen a life in practice but I fear I would be as popular as MR2 in the Elk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 12:18:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 12:08:58 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 12:05:44 AM
Lecturer? That's a bit disappointing.
You came across as though you had much more to offer than that.

You sound like my wife!

Double edged sword I could have chosen a life in practice but I fear I would be as popular as MR2 in the Elk

Ah intimidation!  Why would the patrons of the Elk dislike me? Are you saying life would be difficult?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 12:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 12:18:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 12:08:58 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 12:05:44 AM
Lecturer? That's a bit disappointing.
You came across as though you had much more to offer than that.

You sound like my wife!

Double edged sword I could have chosen a life in practice but I fear I would be as popular as MR2 in the Elk

Ah intimidation!  Why would the patrons of the Elk dislike me? Are you saying life would be difficult?

Jeez MR2 relax pal! I am sure the patrons of the Elk would happily mob you with drinks and kind retorts! Life in NI for a lot of my friends who read their articles after we studied together was no picnic during darker days as you can imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2021, 12:51:42 AM
Even the Toome wans disagreed with each other many a night in the Elk!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 06, 2021, 09:05:53 AM
Jeez some chat on 'paid management' and in particular one poor souls almost complete focus on D C.
Can assure that worried soul who it does seem loses sleep in his infatuation with that individual.
Can pit his mind at rest by assuring him that Cargin, does NOT pay any management but some individual(s) take care of any expenses to senior manager.
Such is outside control or the sanction of the club.

Hope that puts the poor soul who worries so much about a crowd of Culchies.

On another issue which may provoke thoughtful and perhaps positivity why is Cargin the sole club from the South West to have won a senior football championship since Con Magees way back in 1966.
Since then Erins Own have secured 10 and have endured the diappointment of beaten finalists in 11 occasions.

Some would suggest those hallions from Toome scared the life out of those poor folk in Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 06, 2021, 09:48:18 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
Who is infatuated with Damien Cassidy?

As for the reason SW clubs outside of Cargin have had such little success in Antrim championship, those clubs would have to answer that themselves.

The St Galls team of 5-20 years ago didn't seem to be scared of anyone, let alone "the hallions from Toome", to be fair to them. Indeed, they probably have the right to claim the exact opposite.

Well as you don't wish to reveal your own club will assume you are a city dweller.

Your second para underlines why Cargin did not or indeed could not intimidate any city dwellers...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 09:58:40 AM
Having a siege mentality is grand, everyone is against us. But blaming others for defeat is pure daft, lose with dignity, dust yourselves down and go at it again, the way Cargin never give up is a credit to the mentors that look after their teams. As a supporter I could look back at countless games where we didn't get the rub of the green or decisions went against us. That's life!

Being bitter about it is unhealthy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 06, 2021, 10:32:23 AM
It would probably be easier for those supporters to lose with dignity if their team were treated fairly.

Video evidence certainly suggests that wasn't the case.

Anyway, in a desperate attempt to move on from the gaslighting and pomposity of some, am I the only one who thinks Aghagallon are perhaps being underestimated coming into this final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: Saffronaldo on November 06, 2021, 10:32:23 AM
It would probably be easier for those supporters to lose with dignity if their team were treated fairly.

Video evidence certainly suggests that wasn't the case.

Anyway, in a desperate attempt to move on from the gaslighting and pomposity of some, am I the only one who thinks Aghagallon are perhaps being underestimated coming into this final?

How long will you be on the board this time Angelo? The ban won't be long coming, you'll undoubtedly be unable to resist getting the boot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 06, 2021, 10:46:27 AM
I have no idea who Angelo is. Perhaps it would be best if we just leave this discussion here, i don't think there's anything more to be gained from rehashing events of the other week. Especially if it leads to false accusations as to my identity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2021, 11:38:47 AM
Great tribute video to anto finnEgan on the Antrim Facebook page.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 06, 2021, 11:38:47 AM
Great tribute video to anto finnEgan on the Antrim Facebook page.

Was very good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2021, 12:48:53 PM
Just watched the tribute to Anto. A remarkable litany of moving and most meaningful testimonials from some of Antrims greatest Gaels. Well done to all involved..Anto - gone but never forgotten.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 01:02:13 PM
I hadn't realised he had played for LD. Why did he transfer to St. Paul's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 02:38:05 PM
I suppose it's not that strange for Belfast men to play for several clubs. Thought the tribute video was brilliant, especially Kevin madden speaking. Would love to see the extended version.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 05:40:37 PM
Sweeny playing well for St Judes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2021, 05:43:28 PM
He's got a few Dublin club all stars. I think if he's played in the right position he is handy enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 06, 2021, 06:42:24 PM
Was at Derry intermediate final today and took two things from it.
1. I wouldn't complain too much about our referees.
2. The standard of football at that level is definitely no better in Derry than Antrim.
Disappointed for Greenlough, they had enough chances though a wee bit like their near neighbours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 07:30:21 PM
See an interesting video of Martin Kane on Twitter there from a second off in the semi final fit Greenlough, what are the views in this

https://twitter.com/martykane2011/status/1456971620975882244?s=21
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
A joke, I know he wasn't happy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 06, 2021, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 06, 2021, 07:30:21 PM
See an interesting video of Martin Kane on Twitter there from a second off in the semi final fit Greenlough, what are the views in this

https://twitter.com/martykane2011/status/1456971620975882244?s=21

I never realised he left Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2021, 08:05:31 PM
Feel sorry for Marty in this regard. When I watched it the last thing I thought he was going to get was a red. In retrospect, maybe a yellow and a throw ball..If Marty had played it off the lower leg, and not at pace into the midrift, the ten yards were secure. Marty missed the final and Greenlough lose by a point, it's a cruel game and shows how finely balanced some of these decisions are. Hopefully that's not Marty's last act as a player, he would still grace any team.

Any referees like to offer a more discerning view?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 06, 2021, 08:24:48 PM
Marty would have been more than welcome on our side of the bann but I suppose he didn't want to come against Cargin, fair enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 06, 2021, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
I suppose it's not that strange for SW men to play for several clubs.  ;)
When they move to county Derry......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 06, 2021, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 06, 2021, 08:24:48 PM
Marty would have been more than welcome on our side of the bann but I suppose he didn't want to come against Cargin, fair enough.

He prob thought it be better to play 1b in Derry versus 1a in Antrim....

(This too is a lighthearted post and i wish you all well for the remainder of your Saturday eves)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 09:00:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 06, 2021, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
I suppose it's not that strange for SW men to play for several clubs.  ;)
When they move to county Derry......
Ah sure you've a man travelling to your training from county Derry without a bother.... ;)

Anyway, It was just a lighthearted return of serve to JimStynes from a couple of posts back. I wish him all the best.

I think you've took my post the wrong way. It wasn't a dig at anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 09:31:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 09:23:19 PM
Fair enough. It doesn't look great though.

It definitely wasn't intended that way. I literally meant it's not that strange for Belfast fellas to hve played to have played for a few clubs. A lot usually start underage somewhere different to where they play u16 up to senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 09:35:33 PM
Is that fella Kipper on that tribute video a Sarsfields man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 06, 2021, 09:35:33 PM
Is that fella Kipper on that tribute video a Sarsfields man?
Yip. Left LD with Anto that time.
Strangely, those who left at that time all went to different clubs. Don't know why.

He was always a decent footballer for Sarsfields.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 06, 2021, 09:49:38 PM
Why did they leave LD?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 06, 2021, 09:49:56 PM
Fantastic tribute for Anto Finnegan. Kevin Madden brought a tear to my eye. Could see the emotion in all the fellas mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 06, 2021, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 06, 2021, 09:49:38 PM
Why did they leave LD?

Remember hearing many years ago it was linked to fall out over women. Could be something completely different mind you, Duine seems to be in the know. Like St Paul's as my favourite "McCooey" club due to having long standing friends from many moons ago and would love to see them win something next season and dedicate to Anto and his family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2021, 09:56:47 PM
You can really see how much what anto FinnEgan said to madden when he lost his wee boy meant to him.

I didn't realise he had played for davitts. No idea what happened with ld.

He's lenadoon isn't he? Who is the "local" team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2021, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
I suppose it's not that strange for SW men to play for several clubs.  ;)
I see the wink, but you really are a tool. Jim white is needed around Belfast in January FFS. Whole loyalty thing unheard of in the big smoke lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 06, 2021, 10:27:23 PM
You're right Duine my fault for even speculating initially.

Awk EOC come on, every part of the county has transfers. In this part, Dunloy got a boy from Ballymena few years back. Larne hurling bas benefitted a lot. Ballymena might even have got a footballer or two. You boys have numerous from Whitehill and couple from Creggan (the boxer/martial arts forward springs to mind, even South Derry going further back. That's not a criticism by the way
Belfast clubs I wouldn't have finger of the transfer pulse as much. Nugent and Pollock only big names I am aware of. But it happens everywhere is my point. This country/city debate is not healthy for anyone in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2021, 10:42:46 PM
Seriously lads get a f**king grip, clubs have different players from different clubs, different managers from different clubs, but feel they are better, when the truth is completely different!

The intelligence tonight is low!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 07, 2021, 01:32:34 AM
Is tha actually  marty kane? Why did he switch clubs if so?
Was wondering why hes wasnt playing for cargin. Always thought he was a great player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2021, 08:41:17 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 07, 2021, 01:32:34 AM
Is tha actually  marty kane? Why did he switch clubs if so?
Was wondering why hes wasnt playing for cargin. Always thought he was a great player.
Marty is a good footballer but he has a young family and a pocket full of championship medals from a lengthy campaign with Cargin.
Moved house to Greenlough and decided to spend the rest of his career without the hassle of travel.....sin e.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 07, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2021, 08:41:17 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 07, 2021, 01:32:34 AM
Is tha actually  marty kane? Why did he switch clubs if so?
Was wondering why hes wasnt playing for cargin. Always thought he was a great player.
Marty is a good footballer but he has a young family and a pocket full of championship medals from a lengthy campaign with Cargin.
Moved house to Greenlough and decided to spend the rest of his career without the hassle of travel.....sin e.

Fair enough. Was genuinely just wondering. He was a great player for cargin, hard as nails.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2021, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 06, 2021, 08:05:31 PM
Feel sorry for Marty in this regard. When I watched it the last thing I thought he was going to get was a red. In retrospect, maybe a yellow and a throw ball..If Marty had played it off the lower leg, and not at pace into the midrift, the ten yards were secure. Marty missed the final and Greenlough lose by a point, it's a cruel game and shows how finely balanced some of these decisions are. Hopefully that's not Marty's last act as a player, he would still grace any team.

Any referees like to offer a more discerning view?

Possibly letter of the law would suggest a red, I'd possibly go with a yellow, but consistency is where it all falls down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 04:46:00 PM
Glen will be hard to match in Ulster!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2021, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 04:46:00 PM
Glen will be hard to match in Ulster!

Antrim champs get Armagh winners so wouldn't worry about Glen just yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2021, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 04:46:00 PM
Glen will be hard to match in Ulster!

Big expense there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 05:28:16 PM
Don't you start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 05:30:56 PM
40K I hear, Duine will love that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 07, 2021, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 05:30:56 PM
40K I hear, Duine will love that!
Unless he says what club he's from his moral crusade can't be taken seriously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 07, 2021, 06:33:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 05:30:56 PM
40K I hear, Duine will love that!

I heard £50k+
And a man doing stats from the sports institute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 07, 2021, 06:53:25 PM
I see PG1 are pushing their lotto on a social media, raising the funds for Dillions pay off and the bounty for their next big name manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 07, 2021, 07:49:53 PM
I'd say they'll go in house. John McKeever and why not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2021, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 07, 2021, 06:53:25 PM
I see PG1 are pushing their lotto on a social media, raising the funds for Dillions pay off and the bounty for their next big name manager?
Hearing Cargin have bought a house on the new Bannside development for the convenience of D C.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 07, 2021, 07:58:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 07, 2021, 07:49:53 PM
I'd say they'll go in house. John McKeever and why not
Think that would be more a case of John would want it, if he does it's a no brainer!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 07, 2021, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2021, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 07, 2021, 06:53:25 PM
I see PG1 are pushing their lotto on a social media, raising the funds for Dillions pay off and the bounty for their next big name manager?
Hearing Cargin have bought a house on the new Bannside development for the convenience of D C.....

Rumours are that his current house will do him as its in the parish of his new team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 10:01:25 PM
I don't think there would be many in the parish would be against John getting the job. There are men who go to take other clubs and never look near their own club, John is not one of them, he's never left the pitch. A good lad who I think would be good with the hand round the shoulder approach many of our younger lads would need.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2021, 10:13:07 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 10:01:25 PM
I don't think there would be many in the parish would be against John getting the job. There are men who go to take other clubs and never look near their own club, John is not one of them, he's never left the pitch. A good lad who I think would be good with the hand round the shoulder approach many of our younger lads would need.

Can't deal with the snowflakes myself, I'd be more a slap round the head or kick up the ass type manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 07, 2021, 10:16:06 PM
Casements going into the transfer market Roger?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 07, 2021, 10:20:50 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 07, 2021, 10:16:06 PM
Casements going into the transfer market Roger?

What a ridiculous thing to say! Stupid in fact!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 07, 2021, 10:37:38 PM
Relax Roger, lots of clubs in the market for a new manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2021, 07:58:28 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 08, 2021, 07:39:46 AM
All these people who support the payment of managers get very tetchy when anyone mentions it.

And pray tell which of those clubs successful.thus far in 2021 have not made use of outside management....with the quite obvious huge profile gained by your own outstanding example....
Then pray tell how many of our dutiful referees refuse their match payment.
Then turn attention to our hard grafting members of Coiste Baniste and all of the associated committes who refuse their 'travel allowance.

Do not consider an Runai or members of provincial and central committes and associated quangos....

It's the oddest thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2021, 08:18:32 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 08, 2021, 08:01:58 AM
If any of those things are in breach of the rules of the association, they should stop too.

Think you need to get real, my anonymous friend.

Instead of continuous sniping from the undergrowth step out into the real world.
Look within and declare the pride you hold in the development of your own unit.
Reveal your identity and perhaps those whom you declare 'winners will glimpse the light and follow such splendid lead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2021, 08:27:14 AM
Whether his club pays or doesn't ( can't remember an outside manager other than the soccer guy, can't mind his name at the minute, had his own personal gun!) he feels paying is in breach of the rules, which it is, the rules need looked at. Just because 99% of the clubs are doing it doesn't make tv right.

Matt Bradley, neighbour of mine, probably did play for Rossa, not sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
wat about a rule that you have to b member of club to take a team? u can't be a member of 2 clubs i think and it would bring a bit of scrutiny to thoese ignoring the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 08, 2021, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
wat about a rule that you have to b member of club to take a team? u can't be a member of 2 clubs i think and it would bring a bit of scrutiny to thoese ignoring the rules

Easy enough to get round, have a clubman as manager, with the outside guy as coach. It would be impossible to govern.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 08, 2021, 03:59:59 PM
Also while we are at it make it only club members allowed to do any work around a club. So even if you don't have that qualified electrician, brickie or a plumber it has to be a club member who does it for free in all cases at their own time and expense. Yes that will work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2021, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 08, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
wat about a rule that you have to b member of club to take a team? u can't be a member of 2 clubs i think and it would bring a bit of scrutiny to thoese ignoring the rules
That is a new one for me......thought I had a fair knowledge of the O G......rule number ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 08, 2021, 05:45:10 PM
What rule number allowed for 5 minutes of extra time in our showcase SF Country B?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 08, 2021, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 08, 2021, 05:45:10 PM
What rule number allowed for 5 minutes of extra time in our showcase SF Country B?
No.idea......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
Is there anyone interested in the county final? Creggan by 3. I see aghagallon won the Breslin cup so must be strong at that age too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2021, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 08, 2021, 05:45:10 PM
What rule number allowed for 5 minutes of extra time in our showcase SF Country B?

Should have been 8 minutes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 08, 2021, 07:24:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
Is there anyone interested in the county final? Creggan by 3. I see aghagallon won the Breslin cup so must be strong at that age too.
Creggan favourites based on their track record.  Further down the road than Aghagallon, but then again  everyone said that about Portglenone too!  Hoping for Creggan don't run away with it by 10 or 12 points. Everyone wants to see a contest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 08, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
Creggan by 7. The trophy is coming home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 08, 2021, 09:02:50 PM
Aghagallon will be lapping this up!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 08, 2021, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 08, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
Creggan by 7. The trophy is coming home.

After 67 years, mustn't have been too homesick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 08, 2021, 09:14:00 PM
It's hard to see past a Creggan win. Would love us to just stay in the game as long as possible and see how we get on. Hope it's not a hammering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 08, 2021, 09:15:16 PM
If Aghagallon or any team in the county are using the quotes from this discussion board as motivation id be seriously concerned. 🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 08, 2021, 09:47:28 PM
Looks like a Creggan win by 4 or 5 but I did say before our semi that if we got through I'd prefer to play Portglenone. Aghagallon have that dogged thing that Portglenone don't have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 08:16:57 PM
Well well Damian Cassidy gone from Cargin, time for the minor managers from the double winning team to step up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2021, 09:17:08 PM
Calm down calm down a SW team trusting there own to take their senior team ! Have u been drinking?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 09:25:25 PM
Now, now don't get all upset C D.....think a couple of applicants already in...
Will keep you informed.....after all Cargin do have more than enough lads with experience aplenty in winning chapionships....
Am sure they will be grateful for your honest concern.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 09:25:25 PM
Now, now don't get all upset C D.....think a couple of applicants already in...
Will keep you informed.....after all Cargin do have more than enough lads with experience aplenty in winning chapionships....
Am sure they will be grateful for your honest concern.
Now CB don't be getting carried away, where did I express any concern or sentiment of upset? Trying to build the aul siege mentality I see, will be hard for you boys to stomach when you see the cup crossing the road with our boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 09:41:41 PM
Well you were giving advice as to potential management.. such did look like advice.
As for cup crossing the road and if such event occurs after a mere 67 years that will be about time.

Chickens and hatched does come to mind however and will be a rare occurrence....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 09, 2021, 09:43:33 PM
Who bought Cassidy?

Down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 09:41:41 PM
Well you were giving advice as to potential management.. such did look like advice.
As for cup crossing the road and if such event occurs after a mere 67 years that will be about time.

Chickens and hatched does come to mind however and will be a rare occurrence....

Classy as always from the most biased "journalist" I have ever come across.

I think Creggan will do it. 6/7 points. Just one step too far for a young Aghgallon team.

Although, after couple defeats in group and near misses against Endas some might say their name is on the trophy!

Will be a good game and looking forward to it. Just think last 10 mins, Creggan will pull away. Physically and power of running just too much in the end .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 09, 2021, 09:43:33 PM
Who bought Cassidy?

Down?
Am afraid you are wrong again.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 09:41:41 PM
Well you were giving advice as to potential management.. such did look like advice.
As for cup crossing the road and if such event occurs after a mere 67 years that will be about time.

Chickens and hatched does come to mind however and will be a rare occurrence....

Classy as always from the most biased "journalist" I have ever come across.

I think Creggan will do it. 6/7 points. Just one step too far for a young Aghgallon team.

Although, after couple defeats in group and near misses against Endas some might say their name is on the trophy!

Will be a good game and looking forward to it. Just think last 10 mins, Creggan will pull away. Physically and power of running just too much in the end .

Journalist? I should have realised it was everyone's favourite who uses a notepad to 'pay' his way into every game, the big give away should have been the spelling mistake!

I was talking in jest this game is in now way taken for granted by any of our boys! Aghagallon will be hard to shake off, they are a skilful side who don't know when they are beaten! Not many sleeps to go now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 10:14:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 09, 2021, 09:43:33 PM
Who bought Cassidy?

Down?
Am afraid you are wrong again.....

It was you that got the free count wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 09, 2021, 10:15:04 PM
We haven't won anything yet people. Show respect. We are getting carried away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 09:41:41 PM
Well you were giving advice as to potential management.. such did look like advice.
As for cup crossing the road and if such event occurs after a mere 67 years that will be about time.

Chickens and hatched does come to mind however and will be a rare occurrence....

Classy as always from the most biased "journalist" I have ever come across.

I think Creggan will do it. 6/7 points. Just one step too far for a young Aghgallon team.

Although, after couple defeats in group and near misses against Endas some might say their name is on the trophy!

Will be a good game and looking forward to it. Just think last 10 mins, Creggan will pull away. Physically and power of running just too much in the end .

Journalist? I should have realised it was everyone's favourite who uses a notepad to 'pay' his way into every game, the big give away should have been the spelling mistake!

I was talking in jest this game is in now way taken for granted by any of our boys! Aghagallon will be hard to shake off, they are a skilful side who don't know when they are beaten! Not many sleeps to go now
Spelling mistake......'now way' .......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
I'm not a journalist, however I suppose that makes two of us, eh CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
I'm not a journalist, however I suppose that makes two of us, eh CB
Does indeed......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:49:10 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
I'm not a journalist, however I suppose that makes two of us, eh CB

Does indeed.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
I'm not a journalist, however I suppose that makes two of us, eh CB

Was referring to CB not you CD...

Bit of fun anyhow and good healthy debate.

Is that now Hannahstown and Cargin and Galls looking new managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 09, 2021, 10:56:24 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 09, 2021, 10:38:25 PM
I'm not a journalist, however I suppose that makes two of us, eh CB

Was referring to CB not you CD...

Bit of fun anyhow and good healthy debate.

Is that now Hannahstown and Cargin and Galls looking new managers?

Have the johnnies got a new manager in place ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 09, 2021, 10:57:15 PM
McKeever to PG1 then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 11:30:57 PM
Be sad to see these characters go, always colourful insightful and helpful with letting us know the rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 10, 2021, 10:57:56 AM
What's the parking set up for Sunday? Just out on the road or do they use the school?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 10, 2021, 10:57:56 AM
What's the parking set up for Sunday? Just out on the road or do they use the school?

St Louise's school I think on the Falls rd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 10, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Was only winding. May be in the minority but i will miss watching the great st galls team that dominated antrim for 20 years. Best team ive ever seen in antrim and i doubt we will see their likes for quite a while. Loved watching them play football, a joy to watch. Super, super team.

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Was only winding. May be in the minority but i will miss watching the great st galls team that dominated antrim for 20 years. Best team ive ever seen in antrim and i doubt we will see their likes for quite a while. Loved watching them play football, a joy to watch. Super, super team.

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.

They had outsiders playing for them. Shouldn't be counted at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 10, 2021, 02:18:33 PM
😂😂 titles should be revoked!

Id say every club would take pollock and the 2 gallaghers no bother

Quote from: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Was only winding. May be in the minority but i will miss watching the great st galls team that dominated antrim for 20 years. Best team ive ever seen in antrim and i doubt we will see their likes for quite a while. Loved watching them play football, a joy to watch. Super, super team.

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.

They had outsiders playing for them. Shouldn't be counted at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 02:18:33 PM
😂😂 titles should be revoked!

Id say every club would take pollock and the 2 gallaghers no bother

Quote from: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Was only winding. May be in the minority but i will miss watching the great st galls team that dominated antrim for 20 years. Best team ive ever seen in antrim and i doubt we will see their likes for quite a while. Loved watching them play football, a joy to watch. Super, super team.

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.

They had outsiders playing for them. Shouldn't be counted at all.

Titles are away back to Clare and Derry for our sins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 02:18:33 PM
😂😂 titles should be revoked!

Id say every club would take pollock and the 2 gallaghers no bother

Quote from: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Was only winding. May be in the minority but i will miss watching the great st galls team that dominated antrim for 20 years. Best team ive ever seen in antrim and i doubt we will see their likes for quite a while. Loved watching them play football, a joy to watch. Super, super team.

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.

They had outsiders playing for them. Shouldn't be counted at all.
Surely not, MR2 will clarify.........

Titles are away back to Clare and Derry for our sins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 10, 2021, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 10, 2021, 01:10:34 PM
Was only winding. May be in the minority but i will miss watching the great st galls team that dominated antrim for 20 years. Best team ive ever seen in antrim and i doubt we will see their likes for quite a while. Loved watching them play football, a joy to watch. Super, super team.

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
👍🏻

Im sure cargin wont be short of men looking to take them. Same case with LD and PG1. 3 good squads to work with for any manager. St galls on the other hand.....sorry MR2😀

Quote from: country bumpkin on November 09, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 09, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Where is cassidy off to then?

I see LD seeking new managers also
D C is back home to Wolfe Tones......
Cannot understand your logic geezer......Galls were far to good for Cargin in the under-20 championship at Toome.
Indeed such was their strength they did not include 8 from the side which only lost narrowly to their hosts in the semi final stage of the 2018 minor championship.

But when it came to senior 2021 they only had 4 from that winning combination. One starter and three more on the panel list.

So the Milltown residents must be certainly blessed with an extended number of young players, potential aplenty.

They had outsiders playing for them. Shouldn't be counted at all.
Can we strike off the 3 in a row and this year's league considering the Whitehill man was playing for your lot in them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 03:30:15 PM
Afraid made no comment other than positive about St Galls...
The comment on outsiders within was not mine...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 10, 2021, 03:34:05 PM
Anyone know of any new players that will be brought into the 2022 Antrim Squad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 03,05,08 on November 10, 2021, 03:47:17 PM
Michael Hopkins from Saint Galls be in with a shout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 04:16:48 PM
Ah lads settle down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 04:29:11 PM
With the game on Paric TV, will there be any neutral's from the SW coming down to watch the game? Hopefully there are some tickets available.

Hopefully it'll be a cracking game, be hard to live up to last years final which was great viewing

St Mary's have managed to have a cracking season as a club this year, with various youth teams doing well that can only be a good thing going forward for them. They may only get this chance to win a title, there are no guarantees in SFC

As for Creggan, there has to be some mounting pressure within the club/players/management/supporters to get over the line, the Parish for both clubs with have different expectations. Creggan's team last year was probably stronger due to injuries this year but they haven't faltered getting back to the final.

Best of luck to both teams a new name on the cup this year and a free go at Ulster as well, it could bring up a novelty pairing also if results go a certain way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 07:17:29 PM
Un20 championship games this weekend also. Hard time of year for clubs to get lads out i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 07:17:29 PM
Un20 championship games this weekend also. Hard time of year for clubs to get lads out i think.

St Gall's are strong favourites for this one, and although only a few have made the senior panel think the Milltown men are focused on this title.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 10, 2021, 07:57:33 PM
Shambles. Especially when they have it as a group stage. Straight knock out like it used to be. Winners into a, losers into b.

Quote from: paddyjohn on November 10, 2021, 07:17:29 PM
Un20 championship games this weekend also. Hard time of year for clubs to get lads out i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 09:20:03 PM
From what I've seen of the under 20's it's between a few teams, I wouldn't put us as favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 09:20:03 PM
From what I've seen of the under 20's it's between a few teams, I wouldn't put us as favourites.

Modesty forbids.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2021, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 09:20:03 PM
From what I've seen of the under 20's it's between a few teams, I wouldn't put us as favourites.
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Although only a few made your senior panel their display at Toome ensured warm favourite status...

Cargin had three under 20s on their start team v Galls and 10 included on their panel....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 10, 2021, 11:45:24 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 10, 2021, 03:34:05 PM
Anyone know of any new players that will be brought into the 2022 Antrim Squad

Ronan kelly and Ruari Hagan and Paudie McLaughlin asked in I heard but not sure if true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 11, 2021, 05:47:40 PM
So after predicting a Creggan loss in the semi, not sure what to do for the final. The character in the squad cannot be questioned, after two heart breaking final losses against our close neighbors, losing three key players for this years championship, I thought that this year was going to be a miss. Hopefully we'll have enough in the final, but Aghagallan are a team to be feared and I expect the final to be a close game.

Had a wee chuckle to myself reading the article on Aghagallan's recent history in Saffron Gael, as I realized I played in a number of the major achievements highlighted. Aghagallan beat Creggan in the SWA Junior final in Cargin in '88. They beat us well in the end and they had a really good young footballing team. I think we beat them the following year but for about four or five years we had a number of good hard games.

Creggan won Div 2 in 94 and we finally got over the line in Aghagallan. We took a team photo that day and in the backgound you could see some bemused 'gallan players wondering what all the fuss was about. Those were the days when you'd wait a while for league tables to be published and they were genuinely surprised we'd won. (There were better teams in the div, but we won nearly every game by a point or two)

When we won the Div 2 in 04 (I think) Aghagallan gave us a good beating in a council pitch in Lurgan, and we sneaked past them in the qtr or semi final.

I always enjoyed playing against Aghagallan and both clubs have come a long way from that 88 final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 11, 2021, 06:38:32 PM
You'd think you'd have learned how to spell Aghagallon by this stage!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
If Creggan win there's no one can say they don't deserve it after so many near misses and heartache in recent years.

Aghagallon are going to be around for a while, their dominance at underage in SW in recent years will ensure that. I'd love to see David Mc Alernon win a championship. He was one of the standout players in teams I was involved with that included greats like Paddy Cunningham, Andy Mc Lean, Kevin Niblock, Michael Mc Cann. A true gentleman on and off the pitch.

Having said that I feel Creggan are further forward in their development right now and will finally cross the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 11, 2021, 08:08:00 PM
Cant call it to be honest. If creggan had small and quinn available id go for them. Although they have proved they have the squad to cope without them. As was said previous on here, aghagallon have that dogged side to them coincided with the quality they have up front.

Could be won or lost in the middle of the field, creggans duo are 2 serious operators. On the other hand, loughran and walsh are 2 very hard men to keep under wraps and they could have a big say.

Think both teams are sound defensively so will come down to which team make the most of their attacking opportunities in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 11, 2021, 09:21:11 PM
The draw at 8/1 might be worth 50 pence on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me

Deserving?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 11, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
I'd put it 50/50
If they played each other 10 times Creggan would win 7/8 times
Throw in a one off game with Creggan ( having lost 2 outta the last 3 finals ) and Aghagallon with nothing to lose - then.......
It will come down to a mentality
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me

Deserving?
get a dictionary or google it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 11, 2021, 10:03:21 PM
A special occasion on the Corrigan sod come Sunday evening as only the second club from the South West are destined to become only the second from that board to be crowned Senior Football champions.

Opinion does seem divided but Creggan will start as warm
favourites and they may well shade it.

However the Kickham's men will obviously look for more productivity from their forward department which only had a single score from play in their semi win over Cargin.
Odhran Mc Larnon raised that only white flag from play in the 60+ minutes.


Creggan do have experience on such high profile occasion and such may well prove the difference but Aghagallon are well enough equipped to ensure a close affair.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 11, 2021, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 11, 2021, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 11, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
I'd put it 50/50
If they played each other 10 times Creggan would win 7/8 times
;D

I know but read the rest - it ain't a maths exam!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me

Deserving?
get a dictionary or google it

I know what it means.

You're saying Creggan deserve it for beating St Galls twice, Gorts once and Cargin, St Mary's won 4 games in the group stages so have come through a tougher group. As only 2 from four went through rather than 2 from three (in Creggans group) when one team didn't play one of their games!

Not sure on your deserving statement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 11, 2021, 10:22:05 PM
Not sure about that country bumpkin i thought i seen Jamie McCann slotting 1 or 2 over from half back...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 11, 2021, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on November 11, 2021, 10:22:05 PM
Not sure about that country bumpkin i thought i seen Jamie McCann slotting 1 or 2 over from half back...

Nope, Young Mc Cann is quite at home in attack mode, but in this one his four points came from free kicks.
Never missed any.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on November 11, 2021, 11:56:39 PM
Also recall Ruairi mc Cann scoring from play (last score of game) along with Jamie MC Cann kicking 1 from play and Kevin Smalls 3 all coming from play. Throw in Conor MC Cann at midfield kicking 2 from play and Marty Johnston's 1. That's 9 out of the 16 scores from play CB. Were you at the game or going by other people's reports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 07:38:48 AM
Jesus!! someone is still sore
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2021, 07:46:06 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on November 11, 2021, 11:56:39 PM
Also recall Ruairi mc Cann scoring from play (last score of game) along with Jamie MC Cann kicking 1 from play and Kevin Smalls 3 all coming from play. Throw in Conor MC Cann at midfield kicking 2 from play and Marty Johnston's 1. That's 9 out of the 16 scores from play CB. Were you at the game or going by other people's reports

Was at the game, painful memory but still beg to differ.

Was of the opinion Conor Mc Cann had the last score and was possibly a bit traumatised at the time.
But u do need to read my post again because Kevin Small, the aforementioned Conor and Martin Johnston were employed as mid fielders and central defender respectively...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2021, 08:19:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 07:38:48 AM
Jesus!! someone is still sore

'Sore'....?
Not at all, have friends and relations, as well as near neighbours involved, and supporting Kickham's as well as good friends up the other side of the Lough.

My own club has opened a splendid new facility and a positive announcement from Cargin is imminent.

Would rather have a quiet chat on how your club assembled a really good under 20 side leaving aside the majority of an excellent minor team 2019.
Cannot figure out why only a small number from that u20 team failed to make an extended senior panel...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 12, 2021, 08:23:03 AM
Have to agree with CB, Galls have an excellent u20 side and how a number of those lads didnt feature in the senior championship is baffling, think mccaffrey the only one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 08:49:25 AM
You'd have to ask the manager on that one, managers call those shots. Some managers get it right and some don't. But it's their call and that has to be respected, they have the inside view on these things

I did an under 20 game recently and Cargin were missing a few under 20's. Saving them for senior and stopping them playing their age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2021, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 08:49:25 AM
You'd have to ask the manager on that one, managers call those shots. Some managers get it right and some don't. But it's their call and that has to be respected, they have the inside view on these things

I did an under 20 game recently and Cargin were missing a few under 20's. Saving them for senior and stopping them playing their age group.

And not even named on a panel.....to gain in the atmosphere of experience....
Can we call antipate seeing those talented young men in senior roles in the blue and white....

Milltown must anticipate the return of Mr Mac Namee in the very near future...even without more than a few from a v good 2019 under 18s absent...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 12, 2021, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 08:49:25 AM
You'd have to ask the manager on that one, managers call those shots. Some managers get it right and some don't. But it's their call and that has to be respected, they have the inside view on these things

I did an under 20 game recently and Cargin were missing a few under 20's. Saving them for senior and stopping them playing their age group.

And not even named on a panel.....to gain in the atmosphere of experience....
Can we call antipate seeing those talented young men in senior roles in the blue and white....

Milltown must anticipate the return of Mr Mac Namee in the very near future...even without more than a few from a v good 2019 under 18s absent...

I can't imagine us winning any more Ulster titles or All Irelands for a while yet, that feat has been handed over to other teams to try and pursue, though I'd be happy if they could at least get past the first round.

Back to basics for us, one half decent under 20 team won't win seniors, and gaining experience of being hammered by Cargin wouldn't be top of my list of helping kids.

Have you worked out how Cargin scored 127 points through the groups stages and quarter final and only managed 2 frees in the second half against Creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 12, 2021, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me

Deserving?
get a dictionary or google it

I know what it means.

You're saying Creggan deserve it for beating St Galls twice, Gorts once and Cargin, St Mary's won 4 games in the group stages so have come through a tougher group. As only 2 from four went through rather than 2 from three (in Creggans group) when one team didn't play one of their games!

Not sure on your deserving statement.
Ok not a big deal but Agha lost 2 matches in group and beat St Brigids & PG1 to get to final is hardly an impressive run to final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 12, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
Surely st marys beating a pg1 team that has lost 3 semis in a row after et is impressive no?

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 12, 2021, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me

Deserving?
get a dictionary or google it

I know what it means.

You're saying Creggan deserve it for beating St Galls twice, Gorts once and Cargin, St Mary's won 4 games in the group stages so have come through a tougher group. As only 2 from four went through rather than 2 from three (in Creggans group) when one team didn't play one of their games!

Not sure on your deserving statement.
Ok not a big deal but Agha lost 2 matches in group and beat St Brigids & PG1 to get to final is hardly an impressive run to final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2021, 07:01:06 PM
A Portglenone team that beat St Johns, St Galls and Lamh Dhearg in recent seasons is entitled to a little respect.

Having said that, this year PG1 were a pale shadow of themselves, even their biggest supporters were attending games more in hope than expectation these last few months! The set up was stale from a long way back.

When you are beaten three times in championship action in one season you don't deserve to win anything. We believe the players are here, they badly need a decent management team to get them to the next stage. Like many clubs that process is well underway atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 12, 2021, 07:07:02 PM
Maybe it went stale was because certain members with sons playing undermined the manager 'from along way back' Theres nothing like a bit of auld back stabbing to bolster team morale.  When some people should actually know better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 12, 2021, 07:08:00 PM
🍿

Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 12, 2021, 07:07:02 PM
Maybe it went stale was because certain members with sons playing undermined the manager 'from along way back' Theres nothing like a bit of auld back stabbing to bolster team morale.  When some people should actually know better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2021, 07:36:49 PM
I'm not going there with you DK. The entire playing squad are greatly looking forward to a fresh start. Many set ups go stale in year 3. I think you found some upheaval in your own club.. Let's park it there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 12, 2021, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 12, 2021, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
did aghagallon get beat a couple of times in the group stages and Creggan are undefeated? that and Creggan beating Cargin would make them More deserving winners to me

Deserving?
get a dictionary or google it

I know what it means.

You're saying Creggan deserve it for beating St Galls twice, Gorts once and Cargin, St Mary's won 4 games in the group stages so have come through a tougher group. As only 2 from four went through rather than 2 from three (in Creggans group) when one team didn't play one of their games!

Not sure on your deserving statement.
Ok not a big deal but Agha lost 2 matches in group and beat St Brigids & PG1 to get to final is hardly an impressive run to final
Whoever wins on Sunday will be worthy champions - end of. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 12, 2021, 07:58:27 PM
Totally agree Bannsider I remember a couple of times this year when extra in a county semi final seemed unthinkable, now I'm sitting here thinking we could've won the thing. Our day will come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2021, 08:03:34 PM
Cheers Roger. It's Creggan and Aghagallons big weekend, they are there on merit. A fresh name will be carved into the McNamee Cup...may the best team win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2021, 08:28:25 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 12, 2021, 07:07:02 PM
Maybe it went stale was because certain members with sons playing undermined the manager 'from along way back' Theres nothing like a bit of auld back stabbing to bolster team morale.  When some people should actually know better.

That's a cheap dig DK. A bit of respect for a stalwart of Antrim GAA is required there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2021, 09:55:30 PM
Looking forward to the game on Sunday, I'm going on my own so if someone  stands beside me from a different club that means, I'm standing with someone from a different club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2021, 08:04:39 AM
Managerial merry go round in full swing...never saw as many clubs in changeover mode in Antrim or neighbouring Derry. It's literally open season out there atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 08:27:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2021, 08:04:39 AM
Managerial merry go round in full swing...never saw as many clubs in changeover mode in Antrim or neighbouring Derry. It's literally open season out there atm.

Glad to say Cargin are not on such with management sorted...
But hey let the well practised requiems commence.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 08:27:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2021, 08:04:39 AM
Managerial merry go round in full swing...never saw as many clubs in changeover mode in Antrim or neighbouring Derry. It's literally open season out there atm.

Glad to say Cargin are not on such with management sorted...
But hey let the well practised requiems commence.....

Will the new management put up with you lingering around the dugout stirring things up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 08:27:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2021, 08:04:39 AM
Managerial merry go round in full swing...never saw as many clubs in changeover mode in Antrim or neighbouring Derry. It's literally open season out there atm.

Glad to say Cargin are not on such with management sorted...
But hey let the well practised requiems commence.....

Will the new management put up with you lingering around the dugout stirring things up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 08:27:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 13, 2021, 08:04:39 AM
Managerial merry go round in full swing...never saw as many clubs in changeover mode in Antrim or neighbouring Derry. It's literally open season out there atm.

Glad to say Cargin are not on such with management sorted...
But hey let the well practised requiems commence.....

Will the new management put up with you lingering around the dugout stirring things up?

Will have to ask for approval......

And need I heed another snide comment from someone who does use what he believe is a cloak of anonymity to one who couldn't care less.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
Sure if we are lucky enough to be celebrating tomorrow  I will reveal myself on the pitch to you therefore setting aside what I believe to be the cloak of anonymity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2021, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
Sure if we are lucky enough to be celebrating tomorrow  I will reveal myself on the pitch to you therefore setting aside what I believe to be the cloak of anonymity

There will be kids at this game, don't you be revealing yourself to anyone please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2021, 10:16:11 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
Sure if we are lucky enough to be celebrating tomorrow  I will reveal myself on the pitch to you therefore setting aside what I believe to be the cloak of anonymity

There will be kids at this game, don't you be revealing yourself to anyone please
;)

Just when we thought the tone couldn't get any lower MR2, by the way if you are alone tomorrow feel I will seek you out if you want and you can stand with us, we can then vouch that you are not shouting for our boys, that is if you aren't shouting for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2021, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
Sure if we are lucky enough to be celebrating tomorrow  I will reveal myself on the pitch to you therefore setting aside what I believe to be the cloak of anonymity

No need I do not need introduction, I am aware of your identity and disappointed in the extreme.

Would never stoop to such comments as yourself and a few of your like minded club mates have made.
Especially that resident from South Cork, who chose a suitable location  to unleash verbal attack.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2021, 01:39:36 PM
Your new manager won't be getting much travel allowance CB lol. Good shout, you've got a good man there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2021, 04:25:51 PM
I see Creggan's previous manager trying to reign on the current teams parade in todays Irish News. Some people really have no self awareness.
Looking forward to watching the game in the new terracing at Corrigan. Sad we're not in it but to agree with a previous poster whoever wins will be worthy champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2021, 05:47:12 PM
Cargin will always be in the mix EOC. Only show in town in the area, generations of tradition. Have flown the flag for SW for a long time. Credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 09:47:15 PM
Mass attended, half zip pressed, couple of wee ones to help me sleep and then all set for tomorrow.

See you at the FT point with any luck CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2021, 10:02:26 PM
Obsession with the parish rivals on the eve of your best chance of ever winning a SFC is unhealthy but shows the levels the clubs are at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:22:41 PM
It's more a distraction tonight than obsession, the concern is that the semi was our final as to speak and tomorrow goes wrong, Mayo syndrome I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2021, 10:40:54 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 13, 2021, 10:22:41 PM
It's more a distraction tonight than obsession, the concern is that the semi was our final as to speak and tomorrow goes wrong, Mayo syndrome I suppose

Do you follow Celtic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2021, 10:49:51 PM
The SW where it all happening, you boys up there mere bystanders. At least you get to hold the final up there still lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2021, 10:50:18 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 13, 2021, 10:47:13 PM
Oh dear. The Johnny Come Lately SW appears to cracks and lots of emotional baggage. That's disappointing.

Oh dear oh dear.

Plenty of sportsmanship up with the city men I hear with the Un20 championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 13, 2021, 11:24:22 PM
Good luck to both clubs tomorrow in what should be a great game of football.

Creggan will be favorites but have a sneaky feeling st marys just might do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 14, 2021, 01:45:11 AM
Head says Creggan, but there is tremendous heart in this Aghagallon side , I really couldn't call this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 08:25:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 13, 2021, 10:50:18 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 13, 2021, 10:47:13 PM
Oh dear. The Johnny Come Lately SW appears to cracks and lots of emotional baggage. That's disappointing.

Oh dear oh dear.

Plenty of sportsmanship up with the city men I hear with the Un20 championship.
A coming together for the common good P J....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 09:10:47 AM
Hopefully both teams slept well last night. Tactics and match ups picked, pitch in great nick and should be a dry day.  Best officials ready, stewards ready for an onslaught at the end!

There won't be penalties today, just in case it's level after extra time. Replay following week.

Jerseys sorted I hope for today, maybe next year Creggan will invest in an away strip ;)

No excuses at the end from both teams, going to record the game and watch it back as sometimes the reports afterwards can be misleading.

Best of luck to both teams, I'll be cheering for good play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 14, 2021, 09:22:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 09:10:47 AM
Hopefully both teams slept well last night. Tactics and match ups picked, pitch in great nick and should be a dry day.  Best officials ready, stewards ready for an onslaught at the end!

There won't be penalties today, just in case it's level after extra time. Replay following week.

Jerseys sorted I hope for today, maybe next year Creggan will invest in an away strip ;)

No excuses at the end from both teams, going to record the game and watch it back as sometimes the reports afterwards can be misleading.

Best officials? Did I not hear Hemmingsworth from Paul's in on the line?

Best of luck to both teams, I'll be cheering for good play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 09:28:09 AM
Best officials who know the rules inside out! What more could you ask for? The players will decide the game, they always do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 14, 2021, 09:42:59 AM
McDonald and Laverty I agree, but I can help but feel that is your refs union head by applying that across the board with the other one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 09:52:56 AM
It took us a while but we've moved on, now MR2 you really need to let the semi final go. Your fortnight in the limelight is over.
Good luck to all today, best thing for me will be the young gaels from each clubs, faces painted, flags in hand, bursting with pride, the players of the future. Let's hope it's a real spectacle for everyone to enjoy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 10:23:01 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 09:52:56 AM
It took us a while but we've moved on, now MR2 you really need to let the semi final go. Your fortnight in the limelight is over.
Good luck to all today, best thing for me will be the young gaels from each clubs, faces painted, flags in hand, bursting with pride, the players of the future. Let's hope it's a real spectacle for everyone to enjoy.

It wasn't me asking the questions btw.

As for limelight I've absolutely no idea what you're on about. My last posts have been about the final, or am I not allowed to post here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2021, 10:30:09 AM
Good luck to the both teams in the Cash Converters Champiosnhip Final - SW |£100,000s investment is clearly paying off - sour grapes or facts i let u decide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 10:32:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 09:10:47 AM
Hopefully both teams slept well last night. Tactics and match ups picked, pitch in great nick and should be a dry day.  Best officials ready, stewards ready for an onslaught at the end!

There won't be penalties today, just in case it's level after extra time. Replay following week.

Jerseys sorted I hope for today, maybe next year Creggan will invest in an away strip ;)

No excuses at the end from both teams, going to record the game and watch it back as sometimes the reports afterwards can be misleading.

Best of luck to both teams, I'll be cheering for good play
Yeah no reference to the semi final you refereed here at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2021, 10:30:09 AM
Good luck to the both teams in the Cash Converters Champiosnhip Final - SW |£100,000s investment is clearly paying off - sour grapes or facts i let u decide
Your day will surely come.....put your own sturdy shoulder to the wheel of management within your own secretive club....a championship just around the corner...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 10:32:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 09:10:47 AM
Hopefully both teams slept well last night. Tactics and match ups picked, pitch in great nick and should be a dry day.  Best officials ready, stewards ready for an onslaught at the end!

There won't be penalties today, just in case it's level after extra time. Replay following week.

Jerseys sorted I hope for today, maybe next year Creggan will invest in an away strip ;)

No excuses at the end from both teams, going to record the game and watch it back as sometimes the reports afterwards can be misleading.

Best of luck to both teams, I'll be cheering for good play
Yeah no reference to the semi final you refereed here at all.

None
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2021, 04:01:13 PM
Comprehensive win in the end it looked like. Well done Creggan. It'll be interesting to see what they do in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2021, 04:04:56 PM
"THEYLL DO NUTTIN"

- Conor McGregor, live from Dublin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 14, 2021, 04:18:48 PM
Congratulations Creggan. Wet conditions suited bigger team. Full value for the win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 14, 2021, 05:01:35 PM
Well done Creggan. A great club who deserved their win today. No complaints. It'll be a good game to watch how they go against Clann Eireann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 05:05:21 PM
Well done Creggan, onwards and upwards on the Ulster way...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 05:16:19 PM
Well done to Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 05:36:02 PM
Creggan so steady in their play, no taking chances, scoring easier, winning turnovers and played the game at their pace.

Few things, Aghnagallon played way too deep, protecting space in front of your fullback line is good if the team you are playing against are a goal threat, Creggan are not that team, Creggans sweeper didn't only pick up the loose ball in defence he linked up with play and for me was Creggan's best player.

Creggan's use of the goal keeper was good, on kick outs he picked a side which limited the opposition number from putting ball down that wing.

As for the conditions, the pitch was in good nick, the ball was wet, being big doesn't make the ball stick in your hands better, a lot of handling errors created lots of turn overs also.

All that said, had that goal chance went in late on and the point they scored straight after you were looking at a one point game!! As it was, the goal line clearance and mistake by the keeper gave the score line a healthy look for Creggan.

Great season for both teams btw, I'd say Aghnagallon are probably 2 years early from regularly appearing in semis and finals.

On the half time draw, I'd the winning number... different colour apparently  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 05:43:26 PM
Great refereeing today I thought, every foul blown fair play to Colm and his officials. Game refereed by the book great to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2021, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 14, 2021, 10:30:09 AM
Good luck to the both teams in the Cash Converters Champiosnhip Final - SW |£100,000s investment is clearly paying off - sour grapes or facts i let u decide
Your day will surely come.....put your own sturdy shoulder to the wheel of management within your own secretive club....a championship just around the corner...
my sturdy shoulders are at the wheel and they r voluntary . People who let it be known who they are has big egos . Boards are for discussion without egos
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 06:01:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 05:43:26 PM
Great refereeing today I thought, every foul blown fair play to Colm and his officials. Game refereed by the book great to see
Good to see you're still moving on

Let it go,  let it go. This is the same ref you gave off about last year on Mccanns sending off, nightmare
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 06:01:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 05:43:26 PM
Great refereeing today I thought, every foul blown fair play to Colm and his officials. Game refereed by the book great to see
Good to see you're still moving on

Let it go,  let it go. This is the same ref you gave off about last year on Mccanns sending off, nightmare
What Mc Canns sending off last year? You haven't a clue hi
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 14, 2021, 06:32:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 06:01:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 05:43:26 PM
Great refereeing today I thought, every foul blown fair play to Colm and his officials. Game refereed by the book great to see
Good to see you're still moving on

Let it go,  let it go. This is the same ref you gave off about last year on Mccanns sending off, nightmare
What Mc Canns sending off last year? You haven't a clue hi
Congratulations Creggan.  In control for large parts of the game and fully deserved the win.  Aghagallon couldn't get a challenge going but a great year for them overall.  Be interesting to see how Creggan fair in Ulster.  Cross out of the equation so they might fancy the challenge!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

And MR2 ....made a mistake....hard to believe....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

And MR2 ....made a mistake....hard to believe....
That's what I was getting at
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

And MR2 ....made a mistake....hard to believe....
That's what I was getting at

Some people are way too sensitive.

Creggan could be the first team outside of us for a while to get past the first round. Have they a chance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 14, 2021, 07:51:43 PM
Sincere congratulations to Creggan. Always in control of that game, hard work paid off after a monumental challenge in recent years to take Mc Namee to the north eastern Lough shore.

Will not be the only SW club that will take the holy grail home in the next few years. Enjoy your night and the next few days. Mc Nulty brothers fully deserving of their day in the sun. Championship winners on merit, no one can dispute that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

And MR2 ....made a mistake....hard to believe....
That's what I was getting at

Some people are way too sensitive.

Creggan could be the first team outside of us for a while to get past the first round. Have they a chance?
The fact you are allowed to referee Cargin games considering what you post on here is the big question needs answered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

And MR2 ....made a mistake....hard to believe....
That's what I was getting at

Some people are way too sensitive.

Creggan could be the first team outside of us for a while to get past the first round. Have they a chance?
The fact you are allowed to referee Cargin games considering what you post on here is the big question needs answered

Seriously? So Cargin referees shouldn't referee St Galls games? By that logic o shouldn't do any games!  You're thick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 14, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
Move on lads. Can Creggan represent Antrim with any sort of distinction in Ulster? Surely this is a 50/50 game, although   I can't see anyone beating Glen if I'm being honest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2021, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 14, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
Move on lads. Can Creggan represent Antrim with any sort of distinction in Ulster? Surely this is a 50/50 game, although   I can't see anyone beating Glen if I'm being honest.
Can't see Creggan fearing the Armagh champions, definite chance to progress BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2021, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 14, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
Move on lads. Can Creggan represent Antrim with any sort of distinction in Ulster? Surely this is a 50/50 game, although   I can't see anyone beating Glen if I'm being honest.

Surely steunans, scotstown possibly kilcoo then a final is a mammoth task for first time entrants Bannside?
Cant wait to see how it goes tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 14, 2021, 08:44:49 PM
The likes of Glen, Creggan,  Clann Eireann  and Ramor United are in absolute bonus territory, Dromore and St eunans perhaps too
Derrygonnely ( if they get there) will have to push on
Kilcoo and Scotstown are the 2 who will be expecting to win, not just hoping
I half agree with bannside, if Glen get their game together, celebrations done and get through the Letterkenny game, the will be hard to stop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 14, 2021, 09:56:32 PM
If it was to be GK do any of you people on here calling him a clown and muppet even know the man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

And MR2 ....made a mistake....hard to believe....
That's what I was getting at

Some people are way too sensitive.

Creggan could be the first team outside of us for a while to get past the first round. Have they a chance?

Jeez MR2, of course Creggan have a chance.
But making comparison to 'us', another subtle reminder of a superb team.

Creggan are an example of a rural club utilising the talents of their own area sandwiched between Toome and Randalstown.
St Gall's on the other hand did, in their glory days seek talent from near and far.
They had players from Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone, and Derry, as well as recruits from St Enda's, Mc Dermott's, and Gort na Mona.

An absolutely super team, as far from a small rural/parish club selection as you can get.

Everybody on this site are aware of the achievements of the Milltown men.

Now we can chat about the way a super under 20 team stand on the brink of better days ahead...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 10:07:45 PM
If you are going to talk about players from other clubs then knock yourself out on that one lol.

All I asked was can Creggan get past the first round? All that other stuff you're talking about is bat shit crazy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2021, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: referee on November 14, 2021, 09:19:18 PM
Was hearing MC Keever and Maddan wouldn't entertain it because they can get  a big paypacket elsewhere,but realistically what have they achieved,Gerard MC nulty wins a championship once Maddan goes,coalisland won 1 the year they sack MC Keever,maybe the Muppet  G Kelly is the man

Did Coalisland sack McKeever?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2021, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: Peter john on November 14, 2021, 09:04:13 PM
Heard today at final that RC going inside with that clown Garry Kelly,true BS  ?

Who is Garry Kelly? Do you mean Gareth Kelly the ex manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2021, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 10:07:45 PM
If you are going to talk about players from other clubs then knock yourself out on that one lol.

All I asked was can Creggan get past the first round? All that other stuff you're talking about is bat shit crazy

And I tell you about how the make up of that Galls team was created.
Of course their cosmopolitan make ensured success...
Creggan on the other hand will look to a home recruitment assembly to gain further success..

Now is your excellent home made under 20 side giving hope for your future...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 14, 2021, 10:22:35 PM
Bit harsh to say John has never achieved anything!!.An All Ireland with Cookstown is an achievement IMO!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2021, 10:22:53 PM
Your obsession with the under20 team is very disturbing, but I'd look at the teams which won 2 minor titles in a row or competed two in a row for a start, I'd look at another SW team as being very good and with a chance.

Only a fool would look elsewhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2021, 10:31:35 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 14, 2021, 10:22:35 PM
Bit harsh to say John has never achieved anything!!.An All Ireland with Cookstown is an achievement IMO!!

In the right thinking kind that's an achievement, but to the twisted jealous kind of a few it's not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 15, 2021, 03:13:24 AM
Congratulations to creggan. More than deserved. They were absolutely brillaint in they way they set up and nullified aghagallons attacking threat.

Very impressive performance.

Jamie mccann at wing back is surely a county player. Super player.

Commiserating to st marys, just didnt seem to get going at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:23:36 AM
A really disappointing and frustrating day. I'd rather have been tanked and played some sort of football. We didn't get going or play anywhere near what we can. We didn't even get a 10 minute purple patch of good football. The weather didn't suit us either and we made a serious amount of silly handling errors. Very frustrating day. We had a great homecoming for the lads last night and speaking to most of them they seem determined to get right back at it. We've a good age profile and i would say most will stay around and we will have some more younger players joining the panel.

That being said, no one can begrudge Creggan their win. They're a great club and have been doing a serious amount of work this past 20 years or more to improve facilities and bring through good underage talent. I'm glad to see Mark Dougan get his medal.

In terms of Ulster, I don't know how they will go. We know the Clann Eireann team very well and our boys would be good mates with the lads. Was delighted to see them win and it's great for the Lurgan area. Extremely jealous watching the celebrations on Lake Street in Lurgan last night. They've definitely a few weak areas on the team but they've got some serious operators in different positions across the pitch. Conor Turbit up front will take some minding and Kelly in midfield is a great player. They've some very good defenders who'll take care of Creggan's danger men. If it was us playing Clann Eireann I'd be secretly very confident as we know them so well, so Creggan have nothing to fear and could give it a good go. Creggan maybe have a more balanced team but Clann Eireann have more exceptional players in key areas and they've a much stronger bench than Creggan. I'll see how long the party goes on in Lurgan before I make a prediction for the match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:29:11 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

I was talking to MR2 in the social club before hand. He had a Creggan half zip on! Not sure what that was about! Anyway I pulled him on his pronunciation of Aghagallon so I think he's taking the piss here by writing Aghnagallon. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Anyway, there was a queue of people standing looking to give him a slap. He's wound some amount of people up over the years. I think he enjoys being the pantomime villain.  I hope he enjoyed the celebrations in Creggan last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 15, 2021, 07:22:34 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:29:11 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

I was talking to MR2 in the social club before hand. He had a Creggan half zip on! Not sure what that was about! Anyway I pulled him on his pronunciation of Aghagallon so I think he's taking the piss here by writing Aghnagallon. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Anyway, there was a queue of people standing looking to give him a slap. He's wound some amount of people up over the years. I think he enjoys being the pantomime villain.  I hope he enjoyed the celebrations in Creggan last night.

He laps it Up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 15, 2021, 08:51:54 AM
I'm not GK but you can't go around calling people names likebmuppets if you don't know them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 10:49:40 AM
Well what a day, waking up and realising that after years and years of hope we got over the line.

I felt our game plan was perfect all year never mind yesterday, we built up all year and peaked at the right time. Half back line and the tenacity in the tackle in general was unbelievable and what we were missing in the recent years.

@CB I sought you out after the game but couldn't see you, ah well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 15, 2021, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 10:49:40 AM
Well what a day, waking up and realising that after years and years of hope we got over the line.

I felt our game plan was perfect all year never mind yesterday, we built up all year and peaked at the right time. Half back line and the tenacity in the tackle in general was unbelievable and what we were missing in the recent years.

@CB I sought you out after the game but couldn't see you, ah well

It was great to this Creggan team fulfilling their potential, wee Gerard had an excellent game plan and the players carried it out to perfection. Congratulations to all in Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 12:05:52 PM
Jeez, really sorry I massed you.....bit of a habit, sure I missed your good self after the final last year....
And possibly after next year's decider.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 15, 2021, 12:22:10 PM
Just out of interest where would the Creggan boys drink??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria

Would you two boys not just go bare bellies in a car park up round Toome and fight it all out. Traveller style video as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria

Certainly, better than burning flags and emblems and even taking negativity out on a poor minion.

Cargin have been in 21 county senior finals over the past 47 years and enduring defeat in 11.....

Learn from the experience, and having refuge to Mr Mac Namee on ten occassions thus far maybe he may well come a visiting again.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria

Certainly, better than burning flags and emblems and even taking negativity out on a poor minion.

Cargin have been in 21 county senior finals over the past 47 years and enduring defeat in 11.....

Learn from the experience, and having refuge to Mr Mac Namee on ten occassions thus far maybe he may well come a visiting again.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 12:40:27 PM
One team must be cursing their luck this year has to be the Johnnies, they probably gave Creggan their hardest game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 15, 2021, 01:18:02 PM
Creggan struggled with St Johns surely, had to do it all themselves that day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 01:24:35 PM
The gift that keeps giving, I'm so glad you are over it now ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NJacko on November 15, 2021, 02:17:22 PM
A disappointing game yesterday, conditions were never going to help on that front. Odhran McLarnon was excellent in both defence and attack in his sweeping role. Covered some amount of ground and was effective in possession. Kevin Small was also very impressive. Aghgallon's main men never got going and are probably a couple of years off the maturity of that Creggan team both physically and in terms of big game decision making. Armagh was always going to be a good draw in first round of Ulster for whoever came out of Antrim. Good chance of an Ulster semi now. I'd be of the same mind as a few previous contributors in that I cant see anyone, barring maybe Kilcoo, stopping this Glen team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 02:20:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria

Certainly, better than burning flags and emblems and even taking negativity out on a poor minion.

Cargin have been in 21 county senior finals over the past 47 years and enduring defeat in 11.....

Learn from the experience, and having refuge to Mr Mac Namee on ten occassions thus far maybe he may well come a visiting again.....

Calm down CB you are going to push yourself over the edge, the rage is causing you to double post
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2021, 02:23:44 PM
Hopefully O Boyles will put up a new grandstand for their own club PJ Iol. Outstanding clubmen in every regard.

All we need now is the confirmation of John McKeever to finally come home and take things round here to the next level.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 15, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
Creggan worthy champions for this year,
Aghagallon maybe a few years off it yet but done well to get to a final albeit on easy side of the draw,
I'd imagine Cargin will be back stronger than ever next season with new management.
Can Creggan get a win for Antrim in ulster, not so sure, home draw helps.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2021, 02:56:49 PM
Welcome Lar. Indeed, next few years should be very interesting. Whether it's realistic or not, at least 6 or 8 clubs will give themselves some kind of a chance. The standard is levelling off, great for lots of competitive encounters, but no one going to trouble Glen or Kilcoo any time soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 15, 2021, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria

Certainly, better than burning flags and emblems and even taking negativity out on a poor minion.

Cargin have been in 21 county senior finals over the past 47 years and enduring defeat in 11.....

Learn from the experience, and having refuge to Mr Mac Namee on ten occassions thus far maybe he may well come a visiting again.....

CB, That didn't go down well in Creggan BTW, should not have happened. As has been said numerous times on here, there are loads of families that have split allegiances, and we have had good Creggan men scoring match winning goals living in Cargin and good Cargin men scoring match winning points living in Creggan, and none would have entertained this.

Cargin have paraded down the Staffordstown road after championship victories in the past, and it was received well, as we acknowledged they earned they right to parade, they won the fecking championship. No animosity, jealous yes, but animosity no.

On a more positive note, I had an emotional call home yesterday with my father and sister. The happiness that this victory has brought to my family is amazing. Club is everything to us and we've had our lows which makes yesterdays victory more powerfull.  The sense of pride within the whole community runs deep, and probably more so for the old timers who were around for the 54 title who have traveled the roller-coaster of highs and lows over the past 67 years.

Proud of the club, the work we've put into the facilities and youth for football, hurling, ladies football  and camogie over the past 20-30 years has lead to this. Yesterday morning the camogie team reached an Ulster Junior final and the senior footballers won the bigun.

Proud of the team and the way they've handled themselves over the past number of years. Good days allaround
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 03:13:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 15, 2021, 02:56:49 PM
Welcome Lar. Indeed, next few years should be very interesting. Whether it's realistic or not, at least 6 or 8 clubs will give themselves some kind of a chance. The standard is levelling off, great for lots of competitive encounters, but no one going to trouble Glen or Kilcoo any time soon.

Didn't see the Glen game so can't assess them until I see them, Derry teams have a fantastic record in Ulster, so with that behind them, regardless of being first timers that will be a huge benefit. Ulster club has fooled many a 'top' team into thinking they have a good chance, mainly Tyrone teams  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
No one can deny Creggan their moment. Enjoy your celebrations Kickhams and savour the memories. Is that four different winners now in 8 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 15, 2021, 03:34:40 PM
Cargin 5 out of last 7 championships, LD with one and now Creggan with one, Ports will feel they left one behind this year,
John will steady them up and make them tighter at the back.
Hopefully let's them play a bit too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 15, 2021, 03:47:51 PM
Cannot see a senior championship title going to a Belfast side for a long time yet.  Miles off the country guys at the moment.  Not a city side even contested a senior, intermediate or junior championship final this year.  Lot of work to be done, be lucky to see a championship in the city within the next 10 years. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 15, 2021, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 15, 2021, 02:23:44 PM
Hopefully O Boyles will put up a new grandstand for their own club PJ Iol. Outstanding clubmen in every regard.

All we need now is the confirmation of John McKeever to finally come home and take things round here to the next level.
That's a good move BS, John wont have many nights to himself I know he is very active in your underage system as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 04:22:10 PM
Have we white smoke from Cargin as to their new management team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 15, 2021, 04:24:58 PM
He's not quite over the line yet EOC but John would be the popular choice by a distance. Dosent help when three or four other clubs are trying hard to entice him with decent dollars, but we live in hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 04:22:10 PM
Have we white smoke from Cargin as to their new management team?

Indeed the smoke is white......and I understand more than a few interested parties....
Belfast GAA Man will be delighted....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 04:32:38 PM
To be fair whoever takes it should be looking forward to a competitive year next year, our boys, Cargin , PG1, Aghagallon, Rossa, St Brigids and even LD will fancy themselves with a chance and hopefully with knockout championship back we could be in for a treat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 15, 2021, 04:36:29 PM
Will championship be knockout again next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 15, 2021, 04:47:11 PM
Are there relegation play offs for the teams who finished bottom of the championship groups to drop down to intermediate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 15, 2021, 04:49:02 PM
I don't get how Rossa or St brigids even be in the conversation haven't done anything to suggest they can push.
It'll be Creggan/Cargin for next 5 or 6 years, rest have loads of catching up to do, although PG1 have some fantastic players so we will see how they progress now.
knock out football is the way to go, group games not so great with intermediate level teams trying to compete.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on November 15, 2021, 04:36:29 PM
Will championship be knockout again next year?

Doubt it.....County collected a lotta ££s in the system as applied this year.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 15, 2021, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 12:38:33 PMKickham's
Quote from: Calm Down on November 15, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
I'd say there is a good chance you will get them down in Marrons today

It's ok CB I get it you got caught up in celebrating with your family and many friends from Creggan, easy to get caught up on the euphoria

Certainly, better than burning flags and emblems and even taking negativity out on a poor minion.

Cargin have been in 21 county senior finals over the past 47 years and enduring defeat in 11.....

Learn from the experience, and having refuge to Mr Mac Namee on ten occassions thus far maybe he may well come a visiting again.....

CB, That didn't go down well in Creggan BTW, should not have happened. As has been said numerous times on here, there are loads of families that have split allegiances, and we have had good Creggan men scoring match winning goals living in Cargin and good Cargin men scoring match winning points living in Creggan, and none would have entertained this.

Cargin have paraded down the Staffordstown road after championship victories in the past, and it was received well, as we acknowledged they earned they right to parade, they won the fecking championship. No animosity, jealous yes, but animosity no.

On a more positive note, I had an emotional call home yesterday with my father and sister. The happiness that this victory has brought to my family is amazing. Club is everything to us and we've had our lows which makes yesterdays victory more powerfull.  The sense of pride within the whole community runs deep, and probably more so for the old timers who were around for the 54 title who have traveled the roller-coaster of highs and lows over the past 67 years.

Proud of the club, the work we've put into the facilities and youth for football, hurling, ladies football  and camogie over the past 20-30 years has lead to this. Yesterday morning the camogie team reached an Ulster Junior final and the senior footballers won the bigun.

Proud of the team and the way they've handled themselves over the past number of years. Good days allaround

Appreciate that Kickham's and certainly at one with your sentiments as expressed.
Well remember when we won that first title back in 74 and the positivity such brought to Cargin and to my family.
Such has no doubt been mirrored in many houses in and around Creggan this year, akin to your own.

Such achievement in a small.rural.area, is the product of endless hours and endeavour in the community to reach the pinnacle.

Enjoy the craic, and the feeling of contentment in the days ahead, and take the next step on the Ulster way with confidence..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
That's a shame.  Hopefully get it back next year and give young lads the profile they deserve.  While I'm at it, I know a lot of young lads who have kicked their last ball at U17 and see no incentive to stick around for a stop-start U20 championship.  I think it's a very sad situation.  Switching minor to U17 was a massive mistake.  Could a county do a solo run and switch back, or are we stuck with the National decision?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 15, 2021, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
That's a shame.  Hopefully get it back next year and give young lads the profile they deserve.  While I'm at it, I know a lot of young lads who have kicked their last ball at U17 and see no incentive to stick around for a stop-start U20 championship.  I think it's a very sad situation.  Switching minor to U17 was a massive mistake.  Could a county do a solo run and switch back, or are we stuck with the National decision?
They will keep the age grades but need to fix the calendar, the U20s was beyond a joke this season. Even the format of the championship was a farce. One team out of 6 straight to a final. Meaning scores of dead rubber games. Hoepfully lessons have been learned but I wouldn't bank on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:29:11 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

I was talking to MR2 in the social club before hand. He had a Creggan half zip on! Not sure what that was about! Anyway I pulled him on his pronunciation of Aghagallon so I think he's taking the piss here by writing Aghnagallon. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Anyway, there was a queue of people standing looking to give him a slap. He's wound some amount of people up over the years. I think he enjoys being the pantomime villain.  I hope he enjoyed the celebrations in Creggan last night.

Certainly not buying that one J S....

Lift may well.not go all the way up.but he ain't that stupid.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:29:11 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

I was talking to MR2 in the social club before hand. He had a Creggan half zip on! Not sure what that was about! Anyway I pulled him on his pronunciation of Aghagallon so I think he's taking the piss here by writing Aghnagallon. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Anyway, there was a queue of people standing looking to give him a slap. He's wound some amount of people up over the years. I think he enjoys being the pantomime villain.  I hope he enjoyed the celebrations in Creggan last night.

Certainly not buying that one J S....

Lift may well.not go all the way up.but he ain't that stupid.....

About what part?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:29:11 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

I was talking to MR2 in the social club before hand. He had a Creggan half zip on! Not sure what that was about! Anyway I pulled him on his pronunciation of Aghagallon so I think he's taking the piss here by writing Aghnagallon. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Anyway, there was a queue of people standing looking to give him a slap. He's wound some amount of people up over the years. I think he enjoys being the pantomime villain.  I hope he enjoyed the celebrations in Creggan last night.

Certainly not buying that one J S....

Lift may well.not go all the way up.but he ain't that stupid.....

About what part?

MR2 in a Creggan half zipp....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 09:26:57 PM
Never had a drink in that area, plenty of pints in Cargin over the years, some nights we never made it home till we'll after one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 09:58:33 PM
Congrats to Creggan, well deserved and hope they enjoy celebrations.
Far better team on day and think a very talented  Aghagallon still bit away from winning one (no criticism).

Fancy them to push on in Ulster as way. Have the physicality for it. Scotstown are the team to stop
Glen. Don't think Kilcoo up to it at that level anymore.

Scheduling of un20 a disgrace in both hurling and football especially for dual clubs. Just a tickbox exercise for the county. Haven't a clue and wondering why there was a struggle to get officials and teams to field for them. I thought the hurling in particular would have been really competitive across the board at this level.

Just read the all stars. Give me a severe laugh. I wonder if these people actually watch same games as us. Maybe biased due to geography, but not one player from Ballymena ? but a St Galls player who had couple wins against a poor side and then stuffed in quarter final. Edit- just seen Lynch there as well- Eastwood and Conor McCann look like selections of people picking those they know from county set up rather than actual watching games. Not a big deal at end of day but just always find this stuff baffling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 15, 2021, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 09:58:33 PM
Congrats to Creggan, well deserved and hope they enjoy celebrations.
Far better team on day and think a very talented  Aghagallon still bit away from winning one (no criticism).

Fancy them to push on in Ulster as way. Have the physicality for it. Scotstown are the team to stop
Glen. Don't think Kilcoo up to it at that level anymore.

Scheduling of un20 a disgrace in both hurling and football especially for dual clubs. Just a tickbox exercise for the county. Haven't a clue and wondering why there was a struggle to get officials and teams to field for them. I thought the hurling in particular would have been really competitive across the board at this level.

Just read the all stars. Give me a severe laugh. I wonder if these people actually watch same games as us. Maybe biased due to geography, but not one player from Ballymena ? but a St Galls player who had couple wins against a poor side and then stuffed in quarter final. Eastwood and Conor McCann look like selections of people picking those they know from county set up rather than actual watching games. Not a big deal at end of day but just always find this stuff baffling.
Got to agree there, and Kobo the only player from my own club I'd of picked. Conor McCann merits it though was very influential in all Creggan's knock out games. As you say it's no big deal. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 10:15:10 PM
Who selects these players? If it's internet then it's not warranted, if it's a team of managers then that be better assessment, obviously the managers can't pick their own. Is it based solely on championship or both league and championship?

We did this a few years ago when I was managing our seniors, we were asked for best players we came up against, couldn't tell which media outlet asked to be fair, possibly Andytown news
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 10:20:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 15, 2021, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 15, 2021, 06:29:11 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 14, 2021, 05:43:33 PM
What is it with Belfasties and pronouncing it Aghnagallon. You'd think they'd be able to say and spell it right by now

I was talking to MR2 in the social club before hand. He had a Creggan half zip on! Not sure what that was about! Anyway I pulled him on his pronunciation of Aghagallon so I think he's taking the piss here by writing Aghnagallon. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Anyway, there was a queue of people standing looking to give him a slap. He's wound some amount of people up over the years. I think he enjoys being the pantomime villain.  I hope he enjoyed the celebrations in Creggan last night.

Certainly not buying that one J S....

Lift may well.not go all the way up.but he ain't that stupid.....

About what part?

MR2 in a Creggan half zipp....

It was the same one he wore under his referee jersey in the semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
I thought the Shivers one strange as well. Think Tomas and KOBO abojt right though. I'm probably being harsh on Conor, I thought they would have selected him regardless. The hurling all stars were similarly confusing.

Believe it's group of journalist selects the shortlist. Ballymena got to Intermidate final and noting, beat Dunloy handy in a semi and yet they have player in it..


Nothing to lose sleep over, but nice to see a proper selection of football/hurling people chose them. I'm sure a big deal will be made of it and nice for the winners.

Anyhow, any further mgt developments? My info I was gave few weeks ago seems to be still up in the air! Fun time of the year . We need a machine on Belfast GAA man's heart when he sees the outside managers getting jobs fro expenses, must say though he/she is great craic on this, always honest and sticks to principals- esp being a McCooey!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 15, 2021, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 10:15:10 PM
Who selects these players? If it's internet then it's not warranted, if it's a team of managers then that be better assessment, obviously the managers can't pick their own. Is it based solely on championship or both league and championship?

We did this a few years ago when I was managing our seniors, we were asked for best players we came up against, couldn't tell which media outlet asked to be fair, possibly Andytown news

It was local hacks picked them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2021, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
I thought the Shivers one strange as well. Think Tomas and KOBO abojt right though. I'm probably being harsh on Conor, I thought they would have selected him regardless. The hurling all stars were similarly confusing.

Believe it's group of journalist selects the shortlist. Ballymena got to Intermidate final and noting, beat Dunloy handy in a semi and yet they have player in it..


Nothing to lose sleep over, but nice to see a proper selection of football/hurling people chose them. I'm sure a big deal will be made of it and nice for the winners.

Anyhow, any further mgt developments? My info I was gave few weeks ago seems to be still up in the air! Fun time of the year . We need a machine on Belfast GAA man's heart when he sees the outside managers getting jobs fro expenses, must say though he/she is great craic on this, always honest and sticks to principals- esp being a McCooey!

Ballymena have new men apparently and so do Glenravel. White smoke in Cargin & Portglenone over the next few days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 15, 2021, 11:56:06 PM
Thought creggan were brilliant yesterday. Didnt give st marys sniff. Well marshalled team. McLarnon and mccann at half back wrere superb.

All the best to them in ulster, hope everyone will be at corrigan the 5th December cheering them on.

St marys will be disappointed given the way they played in the semi. They just didnt seem to turn up for the final. Maybe it was nerves or just inexperience?

To any of the creggan lads on here well done and enjoy the celebrations! Tony mccollums interview with jerome quinn was brilliant. Shows what its all about at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 16, 2021, 03:44:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 15, 2021, 02:56:49 PM
Welcome Lar. Indeed, next few years should be very interesting. Whether it's realistic or not, at least 6 or 8 clubs will give themselves some kind of a chance. The standard is levelling off, great for lots of competitive encounters, but no one going to trouble Glen or Kilcoo any time soon.

The Antrim scene now is very similar to Derry in the 80's early 90's, and that produced a few fireworks of championship games. The next few years should be entertaining
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 16, 2021, 08:24:20 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
That's a shame.  Hopefully get it back next year and give young lads the profile they deserve.  While I'm at it, I know a lot of young lads who have kicked their last ball at U17 and see no incentive to stick around for a stop-start U20 championship.  I think it's a very sad situation.  Switching minor to U17 was a massive mistake.  Could a county do a solo run and switch back, or are we stuck with the National decision?
U17 was a big mistake with regard to player drop out. Scheduling U20 is exceptionally difficult. The old U21 was difficult but given guys had at least got age group football to u18 there wasn't the same need to provide a reasonable number of games. Counties could put forward a motion to revert to the previous age groupings. Would get a lot of support but might need a 2/3rds majority which would be difficult. So much for player pathways if you just fall the wrong side of U17 cut off date
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 16, 2021, 08:41:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 09:26:57 PM
Never had a drink in that area, plenty of pints in Cargin over the years, some nights we never made it home till we'll after one!

And then you always fell outa bed.....dream or nightmare.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 16, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 16, 2021, 08:24:20 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
That's a shame.  Hopefully get it back next year and give young lads the profile they deserve.  While I'm at it, I know a lot of young lads who have kicked their last ball at U17 and see no incentive to stick around for a stop-start U20 championship.  I think it's a very sad situation.  Switching minor to U17 was a massive mistake.  Could a county do a solo run and switch back, or are we stuck with the National decision?
U17 was a big mistake with regard to player drop out. Scheduling U20 is exceptionally difficult. The old U21 was difficult but given guys had at least got age group football to u18 there wasn't the same need to provide a reasonable number of games. Counties could put forward a motion to revert to the previous age groupings. Would get a lot of support but might need a 2/3rds majority which would be difficult. So much for player pathways if you just fall the wrong side of U17 cut off date

We can go for and u19 competition next year instead of u20, was alot of debate around it this year if i remember rightly.  Needs to be scheduled in the early summer, after A levels and before club senior champiuonship starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 16, 2021, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 16, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 16, 2021, 08:24:20 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
That's a shame.  Hopefully get it back next year and give young lads the profile they deserve.  While I'm at it, I know a lot of young lads who have kicked their last ball at U17 and see no incentive to stick around for a stop-start U20 championship.  I think it's a very sad situation.  Switching minor to U17 was a massive mistake.  Could a county do a solo run and switch back, or are we stuck with the National decision?
U17 was a big mistake with regard to player drop out. Scheduling U20 is exceptionally difficult. The old U21 was difficult but given guys had at least got age group football to u18 there wasn't the same need to provide a reasonable number of games. Counties could put forward a motion to revert to the previous age groupings. Would get a lot of support but might need a 2/3rds majority which would be difficult. So much for player pathways if you just fall the wrong side of U17 cut off date

We can go for and u19 competition next year instead of u20, was alot of debate around it this year if i remember rightly.  Needs to be scheduled in the early summer, after A levels and before club senior champiuonship starts.
That never going to happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 09:54:14 AM
What was the attendance for the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 16, 2021, 11:47:01 AM
More important question, are the creggan men going at it today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 16, 2021, 11:47:01 AM
More important question, are the creggan men going at it today?

Plenty of time to celebrate after the Ulster club, why put all that effort into winning the damn thing and not test yourself against the best?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on November 16, 2021, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 16, 2021, 11:47:01 AM
More important question, are the creggan men going at it today?

Plenty of time to celebrate after the Ulster club, why put all that effort into winning the damn thing and not test yourself against the best?

You probably answered your own question, put all the effort into winning it therefore celebrated the success.

I would doubt they started the year sacrificing to play an ulster championship match, Cargin may have!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 16, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2021, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 16, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 16, 2021, 08:24:20 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 15, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
County Final day was an even better spectacle with the minor final on before the big game.  Is covid the reason it's missing?

Yes, numbers wise but this year we were full pelt with attendances, much prefer the minor finals before the seniors, 2 years ago was last time at Corrigan. Hopefully back to normal next year
That's a shame.  Hopefully get it back next year and give young lads the profile they deserve.  While I'm at it, I know a lot of young lads who have kicked their last ball at U17 and see no incentive to stick around for a stop-start U20 championship.  I think it's a very sad situation.  Switching minor to U17 was a massive mistake.  Could a county do a solo run and switch back, or are we stuck with the National decision?
U17 was a big mistake with regard to player drop out. Scheduling U20 is exceptionally difficult. The old U21 was difficult but given guys had at least got age group football to u18 there wasn't the same need to provide a reasonable number of games. Counties could put forward a motion to revert to the previous age groupings. Would get a lot of support but might need a 2/3rds majority which would be difficult. So much for player pathways if you just fall the wrong side of U17 cut off date

We can go for and u19 competition next year instead of u20, was alot of debate around it this year if i remember rightly.  Needs to be scheduled in the early summer, after A levels and before club senior champiuonship starts.
That never going to happen
"Never"?  What is the immovable object? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NJacko on November 16, 2021, 12:44:18 PM
Is 2 nights/days not enough until after they see where Ulster takes them? I fully agree with the Milltown Row poster. Chances to push on and get a run at Ulsters best clubs doesnt come around often. They can have plenty of nights partying (and rightly so) once they exit Ulster. It's a great draw for the Antrim champions as I mentioned in the last post. Not unrealistic to expect to win that game at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 12:49:55 PM
Ok, just checked the dates, 5th Dec. 20 days away. So another night won't harm them  ;) But I'm sure Gerard won't let this opportunity pass, maybe I'm biased and been lucky enough over the years to watch various (not our latest teams achievements) but the older brigade of the club have great days out in the Ulster club championships.

Any word on Creggan's long standing injuries? Would these lads have a chance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 16, 2021, 01:05:20 PM
Clann Eireann have already started watching videos of Creggan! They'll be taking it serious and seeing Creggan as a good draw also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 16, 2021, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 09:54:14 AM
What was the attendance for the final?

They didn't scan a lot of our tickets!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 16, 2021, 02:06:21 PM
Proud as punch is the best way to describe the feeling from Sunday. Was quietly confident of winning on Sunday, but, there was always a but. Just getting over the line, you could feel the relief from the entire community. Average game but winning was all that mattered. Fantastic celebrations, years of hurt, living the dream. The in laws have been generous with there congratulations, and have to say a number of Cargin friends as well. We weren't good enough before but his season the maturity, game management and hunger shone through. We have a super half back and counter attacking game. Can we do two in a row, at the minute I don't give a flying F**k.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 16, 2021, 02:47:49 PM
Fair play to Creggan manager Gerard Mc Nulty for getting his just reward. In his two years he has drawn a final and won a final against their formidable rivals. A very worthy achievement, and especially as far as I am aware neither of the McNulty brothers ever put a price on their services. The hard work has been rewarded, and the feeling of pride must be immense. Enjoy the moment.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2021, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 16, 2021, 02:47:49 PM
Fair play to Creggan manager Gerard Mc Nulty for getting his just reward. In his two years he has drawn a final and won a final against their formidable rivals. A very worthy achievement, and especially as far as I am aware neither of the McNulty brothers ever put a price on their services. The hard work has been rewarded, and the feeling of pride must be immense. Enjoy the moment.

Is there a lesson in here for other clubs? Or is it too far gone at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 16, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 12:49:55 PM
Ok, just checked the dates, 5th Dec. 20 days away. So another night won't harm them  ;) But I'm sure Gerard won't let this opportunity pass, maybe I'm biased and been lucky enough over the years to watch various (not our latest teams achievements) but the older brigade of the club have great days out in the Ulster club championships.

Any word on Creggan's long standing injuries? Would these lads have a chance?

I believe one just went under the knife this week and the other one had an op recently, so can't see a return
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 16, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 12:49:55 PM
Ok, just checked the dates, 5th Dec. 20 days away. So another night won't harm them  ;) But I'm sure Gerard won't let this opportunity pass, maybe I'm biased and been lucky enough over the years to watch various (not our latest teams achievements) but the older brigade of the club have great days out in the Ulster club championships.

Any word on Creggan's long standing injuries? Would these lads have a chance?

I believe one just went under the knife this week and the other one had an op recently, so can't see a return

Well within Antrim this year they haven't missed them, but obviously you'd still want them in your panel to bring from the bench.

Was wondering why the goal scorer has been used as a sub this year also, Sam
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 16, 2021, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 16, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 12:49:55 PM
Ok, just checked the dates, 5th Dec. 20 days away. So another night won't harm them  ;) But I'm sure Gerard won't let this opportunity pass, maybe I'm biased and been lucky enough over the years to watch various (not our latest teams achievements) but the older brigade of the club have great days out in the Ulster club championships.

Any word on Creggan's long standing injuries? Would these lads have a chance?

I believe one just went under the knife this week and the other one had an op recently, so can't see a return

Well within Antrim this year they haven't missed them, but obviously you'd still want them in your panel to bring from the bench.

Was wondering why the goal scorer has been used as a sub this year also, Sam

Sam has a few miles on the clock, (especially considering hurling aswell) might be making way for younger legs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 16, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Were Creggan instructed to wear away jerseys on Sunday?

Heard chat that they were warned after the Cargin game (were they also wore green) that if they didn't wear away jerseys in final they wouldn't be allowed to compete in ulster. Sounds ridiculous if true.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 16, 2021, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 16, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Were Creggan instructed to wear away jerseys on Sunday?

Heard chat that they were warned after the Cargin game (were they also wore green) that if they didn't wear away jerseys in final they wouldn't be allowed to compete in ulster. Sounds ridiculous if true.
Aghagallon will be "seeking clarification" on that then  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2021, 06:53:02 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 16, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Were Creggan instructed to wear away jerseys on Sunday?

Heard chat that they were warned after the Cargin game (were they also wore green) that if they didn't wear away jerseys in final they wouldn't be allowed to compete in ulster. Sounds ridiculous if true.

Shocking if true but I can't see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 16, 2021, 07:16:43 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 16, 2021, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 16, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Were Creggan instructed to wear away jerseys on Sunday?

Heard chat that they were warned after the Cargin game (were they also wore green) that if they didn't wear away jerseys in final they wouldn't be allowed to compete in ulster. Sounds ridiculous if true.
Aghagallon will be "seeking clarification" on that then  ;D

😂😂 beat me to it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 16, 2021, 07:35:22 PM
Didn't make any difference to any results but yes they were instructed to wear away jerseys v Cargin, they lost a toss but just turned up in their home jerseys anyway. Not sure about the final Aghagallon wore their away jerseys so maybe  they lost the toss. The rules are in a jersey clash both teams to wear away jerseys in Antrim championship.
I think Creggan will fancy that Ulster game they have the big men around the middle to count against these physical teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on November 17, 2021, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 16, 2021, 07:16:43 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 16, 2021, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 16, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Were Creggan instructed to wear away jerseys on Sunday?

Heard chat that they were warned after the Cargin game (were they also wore green) that if they didn't wear away jerseys in final they wouldn't be allowed to compete in ulster. Sounds ridiculous if true.
Aghagallon will be "seeking clarification" on that then  ;D

Talk of a replay. Not something I would want to see personally. Will take a few days for the club to come to a final decision though Im sure. At minute they are only seeking clarification

😂😂 beat me to it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 17, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
so why do the McNultys not take their own club when St Endas are shelling out loads a money over the last couple of years on football managers and they arent getting paid by Creegan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2021, 12:46:33 PM
Hear Joe Cassidy is PG1 bound...Bannside..??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2021, 12:47:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 17, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
so why do the McNultys not take their own club when St Endas are shelling out loads a money over the last couple of years on football managers and they arent getting paid by Creegan

Did they not take the job a few years ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2021, 12:58:48 PM
There has been quite a few expressions of interest CB and it would not be right to comment at this sensitive stage. There should be a name within a few days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:02:33 PM
Many new names for the county? I heard Kelly (pg1) and Mc caffrey (galls) and a few others I can't recall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:02:33 PM
Many new names for the county? I heard Kelly (pg1) and Mc caffrey (galls) and a few others I can't recall.

Who's McCaffery?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2021, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2021, 12:58:48 PM
There has been quite a few expressions of interest CB and it would not be right to comment at this sensitive stage. There should be a name within a few days.

Keep.it quiet......don't trouble Belfast GAA Man....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
I think young Frank Lavery from Aghagallon is due a call up. He's fantastic year for Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
I think young Frank Lavery from Aghagallon is due a call up. He's fantastic year for Aghagallon.

Didn't show up for the final though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2021, 02:01:36 PM
Definitely got the right pedigree anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:02:33 PM
Many new names for the county? I heard Kelly (pg1) and Mc caffrey (galls) and a few others I can't recall.

Who's McCaffery?

Jeez.....played against Cargin in qtr final.....number 7....

Losing it a little......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:02:33 PM
Many new names for the county? I heard Kelly (pg1) and Mc caffrey (galls) and a few others I can't recall.

Who's McCaffery?

Jeez.....played against Cargin in qtr final.....number 7....

Losing it a little......?

Thought he was talking managers, thought he was a bit young  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 17, 2021, 02:56:25 PM
If you are referring to Ronan Kelly I'd be  surprised. Good footballer but mainly one footed and is fairly light, if he had  year or two to bulk up I'd be more confident for him, got turned over in the tackle a fair bit. Would like to see him taking more frees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 17, 2021, 02:56:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2021, 02:01:36 PM
Definitely got the right pedigree anyway.

Whats his pedigree Bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
I think young Frank Lavery from Aghagallon is due a call up. He's fantastic year for Aghagallon.

Didn't show up for the final though.

Suspended by the county ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 17, 2021, 02:56:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2021, 02:01:36 PM
Definitely got the right pedigree anyway.

Whats his pedigree Bannside

He'd be more of a boxer than a footballer all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 17, 2021, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 17, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
I think young Frank Lavery from Aghagallon is due a call up. He's fantastic year for Aghagallon.

Didn't show up for the final though.
Add Eunan Walsh to that list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2021, 03:12:27 PM
LOL Jim, you're cracking me up. Even the dogs in the street know he's a better boxer than footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 17, 2021, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 17, 2021, 03:12:27 PM
LOL Jim, you're cracking me up. Even the dogs in the street know he's a better boxer than footballer.

Hardy wee player though. Loves the ruff stuff!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 17, 2021, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2021, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
I thought the Shivers one strange as well. Think Tomas and KOBO abojt right though. I'm probably being harsh on Conor, I thought they would have selected him regardless. The hurling all stars were similarly confusing.

Believe it's group of journalist selects the shortlist. Ballymena got to Intermidate final and noting, beat Dunloy handy in a semi and yet they have player in it..


Nothing to lose sleep over, but nice to see a proper selection of football/hurling people chose them. I'm sure a big deal will be made of it and nice for the winners.

Anyhow, any further mgt developments? My info I was gave few weeks ago seems to be still up in the air! Fun time of the year . We need a machine on Belfast GAA man's heart when he sees the outside managers getting jobs fro expenses, must say though he/she is great craic on this, always honest and sticks to principals- esp being a McCooey!

Ballymena have new men apparently and so do Glenravel. White smoke in Cargin & Portglenone over the next few days.

The two younger coaches going there PJ as I had posted a while ago? Boy from Hannahstown who was at Ballymena before and Moneyglass boy who was with under20s and Johnnies to Glenravel is what I heard last time I was chatting to someone who would have fingers on pulse. Plenty of good men within both club to take them though I would have thought? Great potential in both teams up here in both codes actually I think. Great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 17, 2021, 05:05:09 PM
Great appointment for Cargin there, the man who many believe was the de facto tactician and the magic behind their recent successes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 17, 2021, 05:28:42 PM
Some appointed alright, Cargin have just upped the ante here, by all accounts an unbelievable football brain, wonder now about rest of his team, 2022 is going to be another great championship
PG1 to announce next?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:01:56 AM
LD or st johns made an appointment yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 18, 2021, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 17, 2021, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2021, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
I thought the Shivers one strange as well. Think Tomas and KOBO abojt right though. I'm probably being harsh on Conor, I thought they would have selected him regardless. The hurling all stars were similarly confusing.

Believe it's group of journalist selects the shortlist. Ballymena got to Intermidate final and noting, beat Dunloy handy in a semi and yet they have player in it..


Nothing to lose sleep over, but nice to see a proper selection of football/hurling people chose them. I'm sure a big deal will be made of it and nice for the winners.

Anyhow, any further mgt developments? My info I was gave few weeks ago seems to be still up in the air! Fun time of the year . We need a machine on Belfast GAA man's heart when he sees the outside managers getting jobs fro expenses, must say though he/she is great craic on this, always honest and sticks to principals- esp being a McCooey!

Ballymena have new men apparently and so do Glenravel. White smoke in Cargin & Portglenone over the next few days.

The two younger coaches going there PJ as I had posted a while ago? Boy from Hannahstown who was at Ballymena before and Moneyglass boy who was with under20s and Johnnies to Glenravel is what I heard last time I was chatting to someone who would have fingers on pulse. Plenty of good men within both club to take them though I would have thought? Great potential in both teams up here in both codes actually I think. Great to see.

whos the man?? mcGettigan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
So why post that DK.....big spoon in hand...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 10:36:52 AM
Now, how will Creggan do in two weeks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 18, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
So why post that DK.....big spoon in hand...?

Man its not a big spoon. CM obviously didn't know what a manger sometimes has to do. Thats it. I'll delete it. MR2 you delete it as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 18, 2021, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 18, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
So why post that DK.....big spoon in hand...?

Man its not a big spoon. CM obviously didn't know what a manger sometimes has to do. Thats it. I'll delete it. MR2 you delete it as well.

Deleted my comment also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 18, 2021, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 17, 2021, 05:28:42 PM
Some appointed alright, Cargin have just upped the ante here, by all accounts an unbelievable football brain, wonder now about rest of his team, 2022 is going to be another great championship
PG1 to announce next?

I heard his brother is involved. Not sure what capacity though, don't think he's ever been involved in a team before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 18, 2021, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 18, 2021, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 17, 2021, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2021, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 15, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
I thought the Shivers one strange as well. Think Tomas and KOBO abojt right though. I'm probably being harsh on Conor, I thought they would have selected him regardless. The hurling all stars were similarly confusing.

Believe it's group of journalist selects the shortlist. Ballymena got to Intermidate final and noting, beat Dunloy handy in a semi and yet they have player in it..


Nothing to  :D lose sleep over, but nice to see a proper selection of football/hurling people chose them. I'm sure a big deal will be made of it and nice for the winners.

Anyhow, any further mgt developments? My info I was gave few weeks ago seems to be still up in the air! Fun time of the year . We need a machine on Belfast GAA man's heart when he sees the outside managers getting jobs fro expenses, must say though he/she is great craic on this, always honest and sticks to principals- esp being a McCooey!

Ballymena have new men apparently and so do Glenravel. White smoke in Cargin & Portglenone over the next few days.

The two younger coaches going there PJ as I had posted a while ago? Boy from Hannahstown who was at Ballymena before and Moneyglass boy who was with under20s and Johnnies to Glenravel is what I heard last time I was chatting to someone who would have fingers on pulse. Plenty of good men within both club to take them though I would have thought? Great potential in both teams up here in both codes actually I think. Great to see.

whos the man?? mcGettigan?

Not mcgettigan, this boy from Moneyglass and part of johnnies before and the background of un20 apparently. Not too sure on the name chief. Sorry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 18, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
Benny Marron?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 12:03:34 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 18, 2021, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 18, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 18, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
So why post that DK.....big spoon in hand...?

Man its not a big spoon. CM obviously didn't know what a manger sometimes has to do. Thats it. I'll delete it. MR2 you delete it as well.

Deleted my comment also

Deleted mine too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:01:56 AM
LD or st johns made an appointment yet?

Are Belfast teams going to play next year? I thought football was dead in the city?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 18, 2021, 12:35:18 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 18, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
Benny Marron?

First name sounds familiar.  Sorry I'm useless I know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 18, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
Benny Marron?

He was with Johnny's and u20s yes but it ain't him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:01:56 AM
LD or st johns made an appointment yet?

Are Belfast teams going to play next year? I thought football was dead in the city?

Dropping to intermediate, get confidence back and go at it again in a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 18, 2021, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:01:56 AM
LD or st johns made an appointment yet?

Are Belfast teams going to play next year? I thought football was dead in the city?

Dropping to intermediate, get confidence back and go at it again in a few years.
think they are setting up their own amateur association
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 18, 2021, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 18, 2021, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:01:56 AM
LD or st johns made an appointment yet?

Are Belfast teams going to play next year? I thought football was dead in the city?

Dropping to intermediate, get confidence back and go at it again in a few years.
think they are setting up their own amateur association

Will that permit the payment to managers or will you as President outlaw such behaviour?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)

And an Ulster select 😉

Was there a player from each of the 9 counties?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 18, 2021, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)

And an Ulster select 😉

Was there a player from each of the 9 counties?

Now now PJ ...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)

Jesus are you still going on about that. That was a million years ago now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 18, 2021, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!
BS at I respect your points of view but do you not fear then we are moving to cheque book championships soccer style ? Man City richest and win premier league more than anyone else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 09:04:15 PM
Who's the richest club in Antrim. Would have to be the posh lads from Malone Road direction? Or Dunloy with their Arab owner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 09:07:02 PM
I remember once hearing that either McDermotts or Davitts was the richest club in Ulster due to their social club intake, I have no idea if that is true or not but if there is any truth in it your theory is blown out of the water. I.e. buying championships.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2021, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 09:07:02 PM
I remember once hearing that either McDermotts or Davitts was the richest club in Ulster due to their social club intake, I have no idea if that is true or not but if there is any truth in it your theory is blown out of the water. I.e. buying championships.

McDermotts racked up a heap of debt and folded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2021, 09:14:13 PM
Yeah it's nonsense. If any club like say Creggan aghagallon or whoever hadn't developed their players to a high standard then they would be nowhere near championships. Massive work goes on in those clubs. Saying they buy championships is just illustrating a fundamental lack of understanding.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 09:04:15 PM
Who's the richest club in Antrim. Would have to be the posh lads from Malone Road direction? Or Dunloy with their Arab owner.

Lisburn or Larne I think. Did they not sell ground for fortunes of money?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 18, 2021, 09:23:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 09:07:02 PM
I remember once hearing that either McDermotts or Davitts was the richest club in Ulster due to their social club intake, I have no idea if that is true or not but if there is any truth in it your theory is blown out of the water. I.e. buying championships.
u r very out of touch rodger - McDees went out of existence over 10 years ago. Davitts spent their money on getting a pitch after 100 years having not having and are improving slowly from low starting point so your point is pointless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)

And an Ulster select 😉

Was there a player from each of the 9 counties?

We were winning Ulster finals in the 80's lads, you lads didn't even have pitches
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 09:37:58 PM
Yes my point was when they were raking the cash in they weren't winning championships!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 09:44:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 09:37:58 PM
Yes my point was when they were raking the cash in they weren't winning championships!

Our problem was we didn't invest enough, we thought our social club during the late 80's 90's would (and did at the time) sustain us. Davitts certainly had and still has a popular social club, in fairness to them it's been well invested lately..

We'd 2 Ulster final appearances in the 80's  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on November 18, 2021, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 09:04:15 PM
Who's the richest club in Antrim. Would have to be the posh lads from Malone Road direction? Or Dunloy with their Arab owner.

Lisburn or Larne I think. Did they not sell ground for fortunes of money?

Lisburn? Didn't know they ever owned their own ground, they've been renting off the brits for years.
Soon to be made homeless as the Brits are selling the land, which will be worth serious money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 09:50:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)

And an Ulster select 😉

Was there a player from each of the 9 counties?

We were winning Ulster finals in the 80's lads, you lads didn't even have pitches

What position did you play on those teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 18, 2021, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2021, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 09:07:02 PM

I remember once hearing that either McDermotts or Davitts was the richest club in Ulster due to their social club intake, I have no idea if that is true or not but if there is any truth in it your theory is blown out of the water. I.e. buying championships.

McDermotts racked up a heap of debt and folded.

McDermotts folded after their committee resigned en masse after an insurance claim over something or other in their social club. They weren't insured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 09:51:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 18, 2021, 09:50:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 18, 2021, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 18, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
95% of clubs and counties turn a blind eye to the payment of persons involved in managing or coaching teams. The GAA as an organisation turns a blind eye. The lucrative pence per mile rate to county players and officials renders it hypocritical if it ever considered becoming involved in the infringement of the amateur status debate. I never saw a turkey voting for Christmas yet!

I'd let it go Belfast Gaa man. Your principled stance is notable, but one by one the club's that do abide by this outdated ideal will fall by the wayside.

There was a period too when you could have got reported (and suspended)  for playing soccer. And you could only eat fish on a Friday!Times change, things move on. You can only swim against the tide for so long!

We won an All Ireland with home manager  ;)

And an Ulster select 😉

Was there a player from each of the 9 counties?

We were winning Ulster finals in the 80's lads, you lads didn't even have pitches

What position did you play on those teams?

Corner back late 80's ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2021, 09:54:03 PM
During the lean spell - any correlation  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 18, 2021, 09:54:03 PM
During the lean spell - any correlation  ;D

We'd a few runs in Ulster, Charlie Sweeney was manager at the time, was the only season I played senior properly in fairness. Worked out I was too small and enjoyed hurling way too much, that and drinking and partying lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:28:06 PM
The fact of the matter is that it doesnt matter if me or jim gavin were managing cargin or creggan next year, they would still be competing for chsips. They have the best squads in the county and thats the bottom line.

If they want to spend money on a manager then who cares? Doesnt matter 1 feck as they would still be there or thereabouts every year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 10:35:47 PM
So let's assume like Duine suggests there is gonna be a transfer market. Which player would you sign for your club??? Fitzpatrick for me.⁹
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:40:45 PM
If those clubs feel that paying a manager will take them to the holy grail then fair play. I believe those 2 clubs have aspirations of making a mark in ulster.

But it all comes down to my main point, THEY HAVE THE PLAYERS!

They have put the hard work at underage. You think its a coincidence that st marys got to the final this year? They have been continuously winning at underage level for 10 years. Cargin won minors back to back few years ago and now many of those players in their senior squad now. Creggan have been competing at every underage level for as far back as i can remember.

But sure its down to them paying a manager.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 18, 2021, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:28:06 PM
The fact of the matter is that it doesnt matter if me or jim gavin were managing cargin or creggan next year, they would still be competing for chsips. They have the best squads in the county and thats the bottom line.

If they want to spend money on a manager then who cares? Doesnt matter 1 feck as they would still be there or thereabouts every year.
They obviously believe it matters. That's why they do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2021, 10:42:18 PM
Gribben, shivers, McCann, for starters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:42:57 PM
Fitzpatrick all day long, best player in antrim by a slight margin in my opinion. Honorable mentions to marc jordan and mick mccann.

Would take mcaleese off your hands though, classy operator.

Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 10:35:47 PM
So let's assume like Duine suggests there is gonna be a transfer market. Which player would you sign for your club??? Fitzpatrick for me.⁹
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:51:44 PM
O kerr
P mccormick, r johnston, n delargy
D mcaleese, p mcbride, e mccabe
M jordan, m mccann
A loughran, p shivers, c murray
Fitzy, t mccann, r mccann

Nice blend of youth and experience. Going to onto the committee here to get the wheels in motion for next year.

£1m for the lot?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 10:56:13 PM
Your not getting Dermot you wanna see the release clause our committee have him signed to :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 18, 2021, 11:02:19 PM
😂😂 will need him to hand in a transfer request

Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 10:56:13 PM
Your not getting Dermot you wanna see the release clause our committee have him signed to :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 06:08:34 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 11:02:19 PM
😂😂 will need him to hand in a transfer request

Quote from: rogercasement on November 18, 2021, 10:56:13 PM
Your not getting Dermot you wanna see the release clause our committee have him signed to :)

You should probably go and seek clarification on those rules first.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 07:57:53 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:28:06 PM
The fact of the matter is that it doesnt matter if me or jim gavin were managing cargin or creggan next year, they would still be competing for chsips. They have the best squads in the county and thats the bottom line.

If they want to spend money on a manager then who cares? Doesnt matter 1 feck as they would still be there or thereabouts every year.
Agreed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:04:17 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 05:59:45 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:40:45 PM
If those clubs feel that paying a manager will take them to the holy grail then fair play. I believe those 2 clubs have aspirations of making a mark in ulster.

But it all comes down to my main point, THEY HAVE THE PLAYERS!

They have put the hard work at underage. You think its a coincidence that st marys got to the final this year? They have been continuously winning at underage level for 10 years. Cargin won minors back to back few years ago and now many of those players in their senior squad now. Creggan have been competing at every underage level for as far back as i can remember.

But sure its down to them paying a manager.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 18, 2021, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 18, 2021, 10:28:06 PM
The fact of the matter is that it doesnt matter if me or jim gavin were managing cargin or creggan next year, they would still be competing for chsips. They have the best squads in the county and thats the bottom line.

If they want to spend money on a manager then who cares? Doesnt matter 1 feck as they would still be there or thereabouts every year.
They obviously believe it matters. That's why they do it.
Lance Armstrong was an amazing athlete in his own right. He still cheated to get over the line. Fair play to him too I suppose.

Jeez Duinte you need to take a step into the real world...

Cargin is one of the best clubs in  the county, in terms of facilities.
Come down and have a look.
You will find two excellent pitches (one floodlit).
A pavilion, which is at present undergoing further development and includes a huge sports hall and state of the cart changing facilities.

The club do own all of their land and do have huge potential for further development.

We have a fine senior squad with potential aplenty within.

Now, just from where would we get funds to splash out on paid management....?
No money trees in Toome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
A wonderful club and a credit to their members and community. I wish them every success.

I don't think you are going to convince anyone that they don't pay a manager though.

The crux of it is whether it is acceptable or cheating I suppose.

Or acceptable cheating.

You gotta meet our esteemed treasurer......then you will.understand.....not a chance.

Been about here a long time and can assure you Cargin club do not provide 'expense' to any outside management....

Fact..!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
A wonderful club and a credit to their members and community. I wish them every success.

I don't think you are going to convince anyone that they don't pay a manager though.

The crux of it is whether it is acceptable or cheating I suppose.

Or acceptable cheating.

You gotta meet our esteemed treasurer......then you will.understand.....not a chance.

Been about here a long time and can assure you Cargin club do not provide 'expense' to any outside management....

Fact..!

CB that argument might wash a little better had your previous manager not have been who he was  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:36:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
A wonderful club and a credit to their members and community. I wish them every success.

I don't think you are going to convince anyone that they don't pay a manager though.

The crux of it is whether it is acceptable or cheating I suppose.

Or acceptable cheating.

You gotta meet our esteemed treasurer......then you will.understand.....not a chance.

Been about here a long time and can assure you Cargin club do not provide 'expense' to any outside management....

Fact..!

CB that argument might wash a little better had your previous manager not have been who he was  ;)

Going to tell you again......Cargin club, do not provide payment/expenses to any of their vast array of management.

Come and meet the treasurer and be convinced.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 08:56:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:36:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
A wonderful club and a credit to their members and community. I wish them every success.

I don't think you are going to convince anyone that they don't pay a manager though.

The crux of it is whether it is acceptable or cheating I suppose.

Or acceptable cheating.

You gotta meet our esteemed treasurer......then you will.understand.....not a chance.

Been about here a long time and can assure you Cargin club do not provide 'expense' to any outside management....

Fact..!

CB that argument might wash a little better had your previous manager not have been who he was  ;)

Going to tell you again......Cargin club, do not provide payment/expenses to any of their vast array of management.

Come and meet the treasurer and be convinced.

We don't need to meet anyone, yes Cargin club do not provide payment to a manager directly, but sponsors of the club/ members meet that particular bill on the side. Monies which ultimately could be used for a different function within the club.

The club pay it/ members pay it, it's no difference it is all money from the same community being used to pay an individual.

Dance around it any way you like, doesn't change the basic facts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 19, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:36:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
A wonderful club and a credit to their members and community. I wish them every success.

I don't think you are going to convince anyone that they don't pay a manager though.

The crux of it is whether it is acceptable or cheating I suppose.

Or acceptable cheating.

You gotta meet our esteemed treasurer......then you will.understand.....not a chance.

Been about here a long time and can assure you Cargin club do not provide 'expense' to any outside management....

Fact..!

CB that argument might wash a little better had your previous manager not have been who he was  ;)

Going to tell you again......Cargin club, do not provide payment/expenses to any of their vast array of management.

Come and meet the treasurer and be convinced.

Bill Clinton couldn't have put it better himself! 'I did not have se.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 19, 2021, 09:40:44 AM
Cargin club, do not provide payment/expenses to any of their vast array of management.

Is the key words here, the club don't donors from the community do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 09:45:23 AM
Club football management is a massive commitment these days. Training 3/4 nights a week, sorting out a s&c programme, in constant contact with players and committee etc. its effectively a 2nd job. Bound to be massive pressure, particularly at the clubs expecting to win championships. I know a lad in our club had to step away from taking the seniors as it was affecting his job. No harm in getting a little money for it in my opinion, the managers these days have to put it massive work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 09:33:54 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:36:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:22:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
A wonderful club and a credit to their members and community. I wish them every success.

I don't think you are going to convince anyone that they don't pay a manager though.

The crux of it is whether it is acceptable or cheating I suppose.

Or acceptable cheating.

You gotta meet our esteemed treasurer......then you will.understand.....not a chance.

Been about here a long time and can assure you Cargin club do not provide 'expense' to any outside management....

Fact..!

CB that argument might wash a little better had your previous manager not have been who he was  ;)

Going to tell you again......Cargin club, do not provide payment/expenses to any of their vast array of management.

Come and meet the treasurer and be convinced.

Put a pair of knickers on it and call it whatever you want.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will keep living in that real world you keep telling us about....
Get your members together and get your club organised at all levels, my guess is your club has been left behind and this manager thing is an easy target for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 09:55:45 AM
100%. All the clubs comepeting for senior championship are constantly competing at underage maybe barring LD in recent years, having said that they did win ulster minor with alot of their current team.

Its no coincidence lads, put the work at underage and reap the rewards.

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 10:06:25 AM
Aghagallon are the prefect example. Massive amounts of work must have been done at that club. 7/8 years ago they werent anywhere to be seen at underage. Now, they seem to be winning or at least competing every year at every age group. And what do you know they got to the senior final. No disrespect but im sure that wouldnt have even be dreamt of at that club 10 years ago.

Its all about underage. Always has been and always will be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 10:14:16 AM
Cargin have the best squad in antrim and probably 1 of the best in ulster. No harm in wanting a top manager to match their players talents.

Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 10:17:00 AM
I'd imagine the coaches in Cargin are top drawer and there is no neglect, maybe the fact senior teams are now a 7 day a week job between organising as stated previously likes of strength&conditioning,GPS analysis,stat men,nutritionists, physios,massage crew, all need tied into the senior set up, that's all before the basics of even managing a team, maybe some can't committ to that level but are happy to take an underage team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 10:41:54 AM
Now that we have discovered the moral compass within are we about to dispense with our senior football and hurling management teams.
Will we stop paying for the services of our county secretary and halt expenses available to our admistrators and ensure no more payment to Ulster and Croke officials.

Will referees turn out for nothing and forget mileage allowance and those lucky enough to be on our Saffron squads to forget about expenses....pay their own treatments for physio etc.

Strange this howling foul as increased in volume recently.
Could it be anything to do with the obvious emergence of strong teams from the South West and Mc Namee preferring residence in the calm of the countryside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
That's my point too. Why pick on club managers receiving reimbursement when so many other sectors within CLG are freely benefitting.

Either it's a volunteer organisation or its not, once you cherry pick who can receive payment and who should not it's a very blurry line.

It cannot be policed. It is not going to change. If this is bothering anyone greatly they are in for a long ride. Let it go!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 10:59:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
That's my point too. Why pick on club managers receiving reimbursement when so many other sectors within CLG are freely benefitting.

Either it's a volunteer organisation or its not, once you cherry pick who can receive payment and who should not it's a very blurry line.

It cannot be policed. It is not going to change. If this is bothering anyone greatly they are in for a long ride. Let it go!

The blurred lines need to be addressed though, Croke needs to accept and change ruling, but if it does that will open up a can or worms also, that's why they have 'allowed' it to happen.

Hopefully they will review the mileage for ref's also  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
we've won championships with club men in charge and we've won them with outside managers, and we'll do both again no doubt. It's whatever suits best at a particular time. Simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
Pure lies. All about the managers. Nothing to do with the fact yous have kobo, crozier, scullion, laverty, mccanns, shivers, magill, bradley, gribben, close.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
we've won championships with club men in charge and we've won them with outside managers, and we'll do both again no doubt. It's whatever suits best at a particular time. Simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
Pure lies. All about the managers. Nothing to do with the fact yous have kobo, crozier, scullion, laverty, mccanns, shivers, magill, bradley, gribben, close.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
we've won championships with club men in charge and we've won them with outside managers, and we'll do both again no doubt. It's whatever suits best at a particular time. Simple.

Sooooo, if you those brilliant players why go outside?

I'm sort of asking is it a case that the players prefer this or do the committee feel this is the best method to get the best out of the team at the top?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
That's my point too. Why pick on club managers receiving reimbursement when so many other sectors within CLG are freely benefitting.

Either it's a volunteer organisation or its not, once you cherry pick who can receive payment and who should not it's a very blurry line.

It cannot be policed. It is not going to change. If this is bothering anyone greatly they are in for a long ride. Let it go!
Because it is against the rules and therefore cheating.

Lets examine the issue Duinte.......
You wanna get rid of Gleeson and get a North Antrim man in to manage the county hurling team...?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 01:32:26 PM
Bit of both maybe. Players want to play under the best no matter if its a man from the club or not. Commitees responsibility to give the team the best chance of winning. Especially if you have a squad like cargins.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
Pure lies. All about the managers. Nothing to do with the fact yous have kobo, crozier, scullion, laverty, mccanns, shivers, magill, bradley, gribben, close.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
we've won championships with club men in charge and we've won them with outside managers, and we'll do both again no doubt. It's whatever suits best at a particular time. Simple.

Sooooo, if you those brilliant players why go outside?

I'm sort of asking is it a case that the players prefer this or do the committee feel this is the best method to get the best out of the team at the top?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 01:48:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
Pure lies. All about the managers. Nothing to do with the fact yous have kobo, crozier, scullion, laverty, mccanns, shivers, magill, bradley, gribben, close.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
we've won championships with club men in charge and we've won them with outside managers, and we'll do both again no doubt. It's whatever suits best at a particular time. Simple.

Sooooo, if you those brilliant players why go outside?

I'm sort of asking is it a case that the players prefer this or do the committee feel this is the best method to get the best out of the team at the top?
You tell us, why did you bring James McCartan in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 01:48:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
Pure lies. All about the managers. Nothing to do with the fact yous have kobo, crozier, scullion, laverty, mccanns, shivers, magill, bradley, gribben, close.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Looking at Cargin they made an academy about 20 years ago purely to put emphasis on youth as whether your an u6 new start or a Kieran close your treated equally, always compete at all grades and fair play to them, hard work from top ex senior players on every age group also, been at top at senior level now going on 40+ years, that's no accident, it takes everyone, Creggan been the same for a long time also, Men and Woman giving up their free time to forward the club on to another level, fact is it's not all about the senior team, that's were alot of other clubs fail.there is no quick fix.

So can someone tell me why a club with this level of organisation and obvious commitment from serious ex players, not able to get a club man to manage their senior team.

Surely there is a neglect then on the development of coaches within the club if they are unable to do so.
we've won championships with club men in charge and we've won them with outside managers, and we'll do both again no doubt. It's whatever suits best at a particular time. Simple.

Sooooo, if you those brilliant players why go outside?

I'm sort of asking is it a case that the players prefer this or do the committee feel this is the best method to get the best out of the team at the top?
You tell us, why did you bring James McCartan in?

Our best success has been with managers that played for the club, we've had championship success with outsiders but generally its been lads that have got the club at the forefront of their thoughts.


Wee James must have made contact or we got in contact with him. He fitted that need our players at the time were looking for, an All Ireland winning player who could, I suppose draw from his own experiences and get that respect from the team.. Similar to DC

A lot of time for James, the club always had preseason, and both sets of teams trained, the hurlers and footballers first week of Jan, creates a great buzz, I would have been playing reserve so would have stayed on when the ball was introduced, great trainer and people person.

We'd Carl McCabe Charlie Sweeny and a couple of others that did a fine job, Obviously we'd a few from within that didn't work out.

By the way, I'm not against outside managers, I'm for the rule to be changed, because no matter what way we look at it, its still breaking the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 02:20:18 PM
Can we give it a rest. Life is for living live it. We have had our games back enjoy them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
A broken record from some people on this issue, concentrate on player and facilities development for club and county and or the lack of both in many places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
A broken record from some people on this issue, concentrate on player and facilities development for club and county and or the lack of both in many places.

Our facilities are piss poor to most of the places about, hopefully it won't be long before we can get that side of things going, been saying that 40 years lol!

Would love a stand, something bigger that Rossa's smaller than Corrigan, having the clubhouse moved down onto the area in front of the pitch with a hurling wall/handball court at the back and gym facilities. back pitch 4G and floodlight, main pitch as is. We've a committee looking at this but generating the money is proving to be difficult!!

While those are pipedreams at the minute I'd be happy with winning an A competition at some grade, in either code. Having the worst facilities didn't stop us winning championships in fairness either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 02:30:22 PM
Yes, and pretend that the rules don't exist.
Do you think this is the most important problem going on in Antrim at the minute?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 19, 2021, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
A broken record from some people on this issue, concentrate on player and facilities development for club and county and or the lack of both in many places.

Our facilities are piss poor to most of the places about, hopefully it won't be long before we can get that side of things going, been saying that 40 years lol!

Would love a stand, something bigger that Rossa's smaller than Corrigan, having the clubhouse moved down onto the area in front of the pitch with a hurling wall/handball court at the back and gym facilities. back pitch 4G and floodlight, main pitch as is. We've a committee looking at this but generating the money is proving to be difficult!!

While those are pipedreams at the minute I'd be happy with winning an A competition at some grade, in either code. Having the worst facilities didn't stop us winning championships in fairness either

Your changing rooms are completely piss poor. Third world stuff. Frankly as bad as I have seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on November 19, 2021, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
A broken record from some people on this issue, concentrate on player and facilities development for club and county and or the lack of both in many places.

Our facilities are piss poor to most of the places about, hopefully it won't be long before we can get that side of things going, been saying that 40 years lol!

Would love a stand, something bigger that Rossa's smaller than Corrigan, having the clubhouse moved down onto the area in front of the pitch with a hurling wall/handball court at the back and gym facilities. back pitch 4G and floodlight, main pitch as is. We've a committee looking at this but generating the money is proving to be difficult!!

While those are pipedreams at the minute I'd be happy with winning an A competition at some grade, in either code. Having the worst facilities didn't stop us winning championships in fairness either

Your changing rooms are completely piss poor. Third world stuff. Frankly as bad as I have seen.

You are just repeating what I have said, thanks for that contribution
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
Oh my....
The football all stars what an absolute joke!!!!
Junior and intermediate largely ignored!
Declan Lynch?????
A concept that hasn't worked. Ditch it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 03:25:36 PM
What about club men getting paid to take their own club!! I've heard rumours of this before in Antrim and other counties!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 03:26:26 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
Oh my....
The football all stars what an absolute joke!!!!
Junior and intermediate largely ignored!
Declan Lynch?????
A concept that hasn't worked. Ditch it.

Just pick your own from all the games you have been at, that's the best way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
Oh my....
The football all stars what an absolute joke!!!!
Junior and intermediate largely ignored!
Declan Lynch?????
A concept that hasn't worked. Ditch it.

Some very strange decisions. One of our most consistent and best players didn't even get a nomination.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
Oh my....
The football all stars what an absolute joke!!!!
Junior and intermediate largely ignored!
Declan Lynch?????
A concept that hasn't worked. Ditch it.

Some very strange decisions. One of our most consistent and best players didn't even get a nomination.

No internet out that direction?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 04:57:10 PM
Marty Johnston player of the championship for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 03:24:34 PM
Oh my....
The football all stars what an absolute joke!!!!
Junior and intermediate largely ignored!
Declan Lynch?????
A concept that hasn't worked. Ditch it.

Some very strange decisions. One of our most consistent and best players didn't even get a nomination.

No internet out that direction?  ;)

Did you have to email in the nominations or what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 05:05:37 PM
Yeah he was brilliant. Thought ordhan mclarnon was the best player on show at the final. Immense in the role he played, their most influential player imo.

Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 04:57:10 PM
Marty Johnston player of the championship for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 04:57:10 PM
Marty Johnston player of the championship for me.
I'm with you here BS, how he didn't get in that team amazes me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 05:09:01 PM
Suppose they had to have a token city player in the team. How decky lynch got in is beyond me.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 04:57:10 PM
Marty Johnston player of the championship for me.
I'm with you here BS, how he didn't get in that team amazes me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
Odhran Mc Larnon was superb in the two matches I saw at least (semi and final) and got on more ball than anyone else on the pitch. How he didn't get a nomination makes me wonder about the whole validity of this thing.

I want to support it and see it as good promotion of our games, but it needs tweaking or it will lose credibility very quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 06:13:11 PM
Harsh on the St Comgalls lads too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 06:14:49 PM
Were the saffron gael reporters asked for input?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 06:14:49 PM
Were the saffron gael reporters asked for input?

Yep....three nominations from each the three grades.....

A panel reduced such to three per position....

Final decision made by public casting their vote per position....



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 19, 2021, 06:23:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
Odhran Mc Larnon was superb in the two matches I saw at least (semi and final) and got on more ball than anyone else on the pitch. How he didn't get a nomination makes me wonder about the whole validity of this thing.

I want to support it and see it as good promotion of our games, but it needs tweaking or it will lose credibility very quickly.
Anything with Brendan Crossan involved will be called into question, not one notion about Gaelic football or hurling does he have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 19, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
How decky lynch got the nod over Martin Johnson is baffling. Did this go by public vote or a judging committee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 19, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
How decky lynch got the nod over Martin Johnson is baffling. Did this go by public vote or a judging committee?

Public vote.....I
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 19, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
I dare say marty johnston got the majority of the votes but would have been embarrassing for not 1 city player to make it. Both johnston and mclarnon should be there.

Nonetheless, its a nice reward for the players and can only be a good thing going forward.

My only suggestion is to have it in the elk of the wild duck, its not fair making 15 SW players travel to Belfast for years to come 😀

Quote from: stiffler on November 19, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
How decky lynch got the nod over Martin Johnson is baffling. Did this go by public vote or a judging committee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
I dare say marty johnston got the majority of the votes but would have been embarrassing for not 1 city player to make it. Both johnston and mclarnon should be there.

Nonetheless, its a nice reward for the players and can only be a good thing going forward.

My only suggestion is to have it in the elk of the wild duck, its not fair making 15 SW players travel to Belfast for years to come 😀

Quote from: stiffler on November 19, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
How decky lynch got the nod over Martin Johnson is baffling. Did this go by public vote or a judging committee?

Think the Elk has bad enough publicity lately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 19, 2021, 06:35:37 PM
I dare say marty johnston got the majority of the votes but would have been embarrassing for not 1 city player to make it. Both johnston and mclarnon should be there.

Nonetheless, its a nice reward for the players and can only be a good thing going forward.

My only suggestion is to have it in the elk of the wild duck, its not fair making 15 SW players travel to Belfast for years to come 😀

Quote from: stiffler on November 19, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
How decky lynch got the nod over Martin Johnson is baffling. Did this go by public vote or a judging committee?

What's wrong with Derryhirk?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 19, 2021, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 06:31:49 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 19, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
How decky lynch got the nod over Martin Johnson is baffling. Did this go by public vote or a judging committee?
He works for Sinn Fein....

Hopefully he doesn't get paid. I thought they were all volunteers also 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 07:50:27 PM
The very nature of club championship football means it impossible for anyone to see all games at any level.  This is obviously just a publicity stunt and should be treated as such, maybe make more sense to have a senior intermediate and junior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 07:53:19 PM
Can't believe actual adults are complaining about opinions from reporters on games!? Seriously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 08:10:18 PM
Not that MR - more a discussion around the merits of these kind of things. In principle I think it can be a good thing...and looking forward an event to be enjoyed.

It looks like there are faults. Either the public vote, and their decision is final (great for social media inter connectivity) or its up to the journalists (as per National  All Stars selection).

It cannot be both.

RC is 100% right. Maybe a competition for three divisions and keep them separate.

On Declan Lynch...now this might surprise some of you, but I thought he was excellent against us in the QF..at times taking the games to us on his own. I thought he looked every inch the county player that he has been, but at 29 wouldn't fit Mr Mc Ginleys age profile. Actually looked to have trimmed down a few pounds and fitter looking than I've ever seen him.

After the match I recall saying to someone he was LDs best player by some stretch.So I'm not completely surprised, although Marty was the most consistent high performing number 6.

Aghagallons Ruairi McCann looked a shoe in for FF.  How Tomas got the nod ahead of him is open to debate as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 08:49:12 PM
White smoke in Pg1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 08:55:17 PM
Indeed RC. It's with genuine optimism that Casements can now formally announce that John Mc Keever has come home to take on the challenge of turning Portglenone into serious championship contenders.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 08:49:12 PM
White smoke in Pg1

Still maybe because Tomas finished the championship with a huge tally....BS.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 08:59:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 08:55:17 PM
Indeed RC. It's with genuine optimism that Casements can now formally announce that John Mc Keever has come home to take on the challenge of turning Portglenone into serious championship contenders.

Hopefully the line is as respectful as the previous line!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 09:02:14 PM
Not disputing the merits of Tomas at all....we know he's a class act.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 09:05:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 09:02:14 PM
Not disputing the merits of Tomas at all....we know he's a class act.
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And u did watch him all through the championship....BS...

Sometimes you do get a little carried away....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 09:07:50 PM
No CB just saw the semi final on TV. That's all I saw of him in this year's cship. Not enough to make a proper judgement call. I saw Aghagallons Ruairi McCann roast us for 90 minutes though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 09:13:34 PM
No Duine. I never felt that PG1 were ever in the groove in 2021. I'd be expecting players to flourish and realise their potential under John. Time will tell of course, but I think this is a good appointment for us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2021, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 19, 2021, 09:07:50 PM
No CB just saw the semi final on TV. That's all I saw of him in this year's cship. Not enough to make a proper judgement call. I saw Aghagallons Ruairi McCann roast us for 90 minutes though.

I am.sure he did, but I would suggest that Tomas did perform.with excellence against possibly stronger opposition.....Rossa, St John's, and Creggan.....

I know you have a huge respect for all things Green....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 19, 2021, 09:17:49 PM
Agreed Bannside, one of the most frustrating years watching Casements I can remember. Think John can give the young lads the support and encouragement they need.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 19, 2021, 09:18:55 PM
Absolute joke on some of the decisions for the all star awards. Comgalls lads trained as much as the other teams did and went on and won their grade and not a look in! Declan lynch being one, obviously had to have a Belfast player in to make the city lads relevant I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 19, 2021, 09:21:41 PM
Duine we are looking forward now, not backwards. I believe John can find another level. That's all. Time will tell whether that's enough. I'm off for a pint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
The state of these posts on about the selection!! My god
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 09:30:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
The state of these posts on about the selection!! My god

Were you on the selection committee or what. You're taking this bad. The county all stars get questioned as well. It's all part of the thing. Although Decky Lynch selection is a joke all the same. I saw most of his games too. Must be trying to keep football going in Belfast with the odd selection.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 09:33:21 PM
Don't worry, Marty Johnston is seeking clarification as we speak.

Is this Hardstation's new name? If so, have Rossa not got a decent group that could make a push in the football. They seem to be more focused on hurling though. The rich boys from Malone are coming but it'll be a few years before they're challenging at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 09:30:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
The state of these posts on about the selection!! My god

Were you on the selection committee or what. You're taking this bad. The county all stars get questioned as well. It's all part of the thing. Although Decky Lynch selection is a joke all the same. I saw most of his games too. Must be trying to keep football going in Belfast with the odd selection.

Based on what we have saw from the SW, those lurgan lads are going to get some hammering  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 19, 2021, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 09:42:23 PM
It's certainly difficult to do both. Making a push either way is a possibility as seen with the hurlers recently. Doing both is probably impossible in today's game.

There'd be more of a chance with the football than the hurling surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2021, 10:15:52 AM
Probably from the first challenge game lol.. and did CB really say that? The old rascal wait till I see him....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2021, 01:17:10 PM
Good appointment by pg1 indeed, well organised and hard to break down along with some fast men on the break will be a formidable team, good luck to JMK
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 20, 2021, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 19, 2021, 09:42:23 PM
It's certainly difficult to do both. Making a push either way is a possibility as seen with the hurlers recently. Doing both is probably impossible in today's game.
Not impossible, as Slaughtneil have proven, but incredibly hard to be at the top in both codes. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 20, 2021, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2021, 01:17:10 PM
Good appointment by pg1 indeed, well organised and hard to break down along with some fast men on the break will be a formidable team, good luck to JMK

Pg1 favourites for the championship next year then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
Won't be far away, Creggan massive favourites though at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 20, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
Won't be far away, Creggan massive favourites though at this stage.

Cargin have to be favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 20, 2021, 02:27:17 PM
John might be a good coach/manager but to even start thinking about championships is way too earlier. Establish a pattern of play, spend couple of years perfecting it whilst bringing young talent through, has to be the aim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 20, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 20, 2021, 02:27:17 PM
John might be a good coach/manager but to even start thinking about championships is way too earlier. Establish a pattern of play, spend couple of years perfecting it whilst bringing young talent through, has to be the aim.

Are u joking, a team that has been in the last three semifinals. Such bull shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 20, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
Look at it in context.
Couldn't beat an average Aghagallon team this year, couldn't beat Creggan having a poor day last year, and loads of chances to beat average LD team year b4. Have avoided Cargin in all these years. So much to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 20, 2021, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 20, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
Look at it in context.
Couldn't beat an average Aghagallon team this year, couldn't beat Creggan having a poor day last year, and loads of chances to beat average LD team year b4. Have avoided Cargin in all these years. So much to do.

You could easily look at it in another context! Not far away and the new manager will make a few tweaks and get you over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 21, 2021, 12:21:15 AM
Truth probably somewhere in between
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 21, 2021, 01:53:25 AM
Wouldnt necessarily say Aghagallon where an average team, they were far from average in the semi.  Wasnt at the semi last year for obvious reasons. But was at the match agaisnst LD at the dub. That was one of the best games ive ever seen in antrim football, was nothing average about it. You would be hard pressed to see a better game of football. It was simply brilliant to watch.

Make no mistake, pg1 are a cracking side and they will be competing for the championship next year.

RC, play pg1s chances all you wont, but there is no doubt about it that they are a major player in the antrim championship for years to come. 

Quote from: rogercasement on November 20, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
Look at it in context.
Couldn't beat an average Aghagallon team this year, couldn't beat Creggan having a poor day last year, and loads of chances to beat average LD team year b4. Have avoided Cargin in all these years. So much to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2021, 06:49:28 PM
No wonder BS thought Tomas did not deserve his place in that poll....
Sure he only bagged 6-41 ......poor enough return.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2021, 06:53:45 PM
Wise up CB, read again carefully. Where did anyone say he didn't deserve a place on the poll?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?

Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?


Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!

Think I've same before that I know up here that Ballymena, Dunloy and Glenravel all have players from different clubs originally. This nonsense that Belfast is worse or vice versa doesn't stand. Every part of the county has clubs with different players from original clubs.

Been away for a few days and have to apologise that I got some info corrected on Glenravel management that I posted before, the boy from Moneyglass called Marron is a no go and the Hannahstown lad Bunting Ballymena bound.

Give us some more white smoke and craic to talk about and paid management, we haven't had debate in a while.

On side note, great to see Skinny rewarded for his refereeing in Minor alll Ireland final by ulster gaa.
Could we get him involved in football refereeing as well? Would love more dual referees. Would benefit officials massively and the games. Some great refs in both codes that would love to see do either or
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 07:32:42 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?


Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!

Think I've same before that I know up here that Ballymena, Dunloy and Glenravel all have players from different clubs originally. This nonsense that Belfast is worse or vice versa doesn't stand. Every part of the county has clubs with different players from original clubs.

Been away for a few days and have to apologise that I got some info corrected on Glenravel management that I posted before, the boy from Moneyglass called Marron is a no go and the Hannahstown lad Bunting Ballymena bound.

Give us some more white smoke and craic to talk about and paid management, we haven't had debate in a while.

On side note, great to see Skinny rewarded for his refereeing in Minor alll Ireland final by ulster gaa.
Could we get him involved in football refereeing as well? Would love more dual referees. Would benefit officials massively and the games. Some great refs in both codes that would love to see do either or

Well then we must be the only club in Antrim/Armagh to have all of our own homegrown players at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?


Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!

Think I've same before that I know up here that Ballymena, Dunloy and Glenravel all have players from different clubs originally. This nonsense that Belfast is worse or vice versa doesn't stand. Every part of the county has clubs with different players from original clubs.

Been away for a few days and have to apologise that I got some info corrected on Glenravel management that I posted before, the boy from Moneyglass called Marron is a no go and the Hannahstown lad Bunting Ballymena bound.

Give us some more white smoke and craic to talk about and paid management, we haven't had debate in a while.

On side note, great to see Skinny rewarded for his refereeing in Minor alll Ireland final by ulster gaa.
Could we get him involved in football refereeing as well? Would love more dual referees. Would benefit officials massively and the games. Some great refs in both codes that would love to see do either or

Skinny did football at the start, he played football/hurling for club, but happy with club and inter county hurling ref'ing. Big commitment to ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2021, 07:35:58 PM
South West clubs would never take players from other clubs  sure they wouldn't bannside  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 07:32:42 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?


Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!

Think I've same before that I know up here that Ballymena, Dunloy and Glenravel all have players from different clubs originally. This nonsense that Belfast is worse or vice versa doesn't stand. Every part of the county has clubs with different players from original clubs.

Been away for a few days and have to apologise that I got some info corrected on Glenravel management that I posted before, the boy from Moneyglass called Marron is a no go and the Hannahstown lad Bunting Ballymena bound.

Give us some more white smoke and craic to talk about and paid management, we haven't had debate in a while.

On side note, great to see Skinny rewarded for his refereeing in Minor alll Ireland final by ulster gaa.
Could we get him involved in football refereeing as well? Would love more dual referees. Would benefit officials massively and the games. Some great refs in both codes that would love to see do either or

Well then we must be the only club in Antrim/Armagh to have all of our own homegrown players at senior level

Just managers  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2021, 07:44:46 PM
Best days of your life Big Yin lol....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2021, 07:46:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 21, 2021, 06:53:45 PM
Wise up CB, read again carefully. Where did anyone say he didn't deserve a place on the poll?

I know your judgement was on how that lad, who is a good'n managed to score 0-01 against PG1.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:50:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?


Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!

Think I've same before that I know up here that Ballymena, Dunloy and Glenravel all have players from different clubs originally. This nonsense that Belfast is worse or vice versa doesn't stand. Every part of the county has clubs with different players from original clubs.

Been away for a few days and have to apologise that I got some info corrected on Glenravel management that I posted before, the boy from Moneyglass called Marron is a no go and the Hannahstown lad Bunting Ballymena bound.

Give us some more white smoke and craic to talk about and paid management, we haven't had debate in a while.

On side note, great to see Skinny rewarded for his refereeing in Minor alll Ireland final by ulster gaa.
Could we get him involved in football refereeing as well? Would love more dual referees. Would benefit officials massively and the games. Some great refs in both codes that would love to see do either or

Skinny did football at the start, he played football/hurling for club, but happy with club and inter county hurling ref'ing. Big commitment to ask.

Oh I know he did lad and not bad either. Massive commitment. Should have phrased better. Could we mix and match the codes more? Less hurling and few football games for a skinny and vice versa for a Laverty or Doherty. Works well with yourself, McDonald and O'Neill now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 07:32:42 PM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 05:27:20 PM
So Con Magee's hammered Creggan, bate Tir na Og also in their group. Be hard to beat in the final, done work going on down there

It's been a joke of a competition! Also does that Con Magee's team not have fellas from all over North Antrim playing for them?


Now now, there's no way teams in north Antrim or south west Antrim have players from other teams playing... it can not be!!

Think I've same before that I know up here that Ballymena, Dunloy and Glenravel all have players from different clubs originally. This nonsense that Belfast is worse or vice versa doesn't stand. Every part of the county has clubs with different players from original clubs.

Been away for a few days and have to apologise that I got some info corrected on Glenravel management that I posted before, the boy from Moneyglass called Marron is a no go and the Hannahstown lad Bunting Ballymena bound.

Give us some more white smoke and craic to talk about and paid management, we haven't had debate in a while.

On side note, great to see Skinny rewarded for his refereeing in Minor alll Ireland final by ulster gaa.
Could we get him involved in football refereeing as well? Would love more dual referees. Would benefit officials massively and the games. Some great refs in both codes that would love to see do either or

Well then we must be the only club in Antrim/Armagh to have all of our own homegrown players at senior level

Just managers  ;)

What managers? We currently don't have any.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
You do what ya can. In fairness to Colm's schedule he puts in the hours.

Here's some games that need to be covered...

All your underage, hurling football
Regional games both codes
Senior grades both codes
School
Colleges
Ladies
Camogie
Inter county

You could literally be out every night of the week.

I'd a lad give off during a game giving off about a decision,  saying he's training all year, WTF am I doing all year?

Like I say every year, the course generally starts in January, the more ex players, keen GAA heads or armchair experts are all welcomed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
You do what ya can. In fairness to Colm's schedule he puts in the hours.

Here's some games that need to be covered...

All your underage, hurling football
Regional games both codes
Senior grades both codes
School
Colleges
Ladies
Camogie
Inter county

You could literally be out every night of the week.

I'd a lad give off during a game giving off about a decision,  saying he's training all year, WTF am I doing all year?

Like I say every year, the course generally starts in January, the more ex players, keen GAA heads or armchair experts are all welcomed

You must be making a fortune
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
You do what ya can. In fairness to Colm's schedule he puts in the hours.

Here's some games that need to be covered...

All your underage, hurling football
Regional games both codes
Senior grades both codes
School
Colleges
Ladies
Camogie
Inter county

You could literally be out every night of the week.

I'd a lad give off during a game giving off about a decision,  saying he's training all year, WTF am I doing all year?

Like I say every year, the course generally starts in January, the more ex players, keen GAA heads or armchair experts are all welcomed

You must be making a fortune

Non paying role, just expenses  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 21, 2021, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
You do what ya can. In fairness to Colm's schedule he puts in the hours.

Here's some games that need to be covered...

All your underage, hurling football
Regional games both codes
Senior grades both codes
School
Colleges
Ladies
Camogie
Inter county

You could literally be out every night of the week.

I'd a lad give off during a game giving off about a decision,  saying he's training all year, WTF am I doing all year?

Like I say every year, the course generally starts in January, the more ex players, keen GAA heads or armchair experts are all welcomed

I understand the commitment required for officials don't worry and wasn't having a go.
The thought process is that if we have more dual refs then it allows for more time off maybe? Not relying on the same lads for same fixtures over and over. Only point being made here and nothing else more. I have serious respect for all officials and always defend them. The easy target at all times
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
You do what ya can. In fairness to Colm's schedule he puts in the hours.

Here's some games that need to be covered...

All your underage, hurling football
Regional games both codes
Senior grades both codes
School
Colleges
Ladies
Camogie
Inter county

You could literally be out every night of the week.

I'd a lad give off during a game giving off about a decision,  saying he's training all year, WTF am I doing all year?

Like I say every year, the course generally starts in January, the more ex players, keen GAA heads or armchair experts are all welcomed

You must be making a fortune

Non paying role, just expenses  ::)

Tasty enough mileage rate. Hope you're not claiming mileage the days that you're car sharing to games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Covid, so no car sharing, personally I feel the umpires should get some expenses also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Covid, so no car sharing, personally I feel the umpires should get some expenses also

That would only be fair. Volunteers in the game are few and fair between these days.

What way did u20 competition get sorted then? We had loads of games called off with teams not able to field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Covid, so no car sharing, personally I feel the umpires should get some expenses also

That would only be fair. Volunteers in the game are few and fair between these days.

What way did u20 competition get sorted then? We had loads of games called off with teams not able to field.

Final next week. Top of groups through to final?? We'd games cancelled also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2021, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2021, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Covid, so no car sharing, personally I feel the umpires should get some expenses also

That would only be fair. Volunteers in the game are few and fair between these days.

What way did u20 competition get sorted then? We had loads of games called off with teams not able to field.

Final next week. Top of groups through to final?? We'd games cancelled also

Aghagallon, according to the results on website played two and won two..
They must have made concession(s)??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 21, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
In terms of that Glenravel u20 outfit I believe they only have 1 from another club. They need to push on. In terms of refs absolutely. Correct. Stand out this year is ray matthews as I have seen him go all four codes this year. Great servant to the refereeing community in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 11:12:01 PM
How did Glenravel do at minor level with this squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 21, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 11:12:01 PM
How did Glenravel do at minor level with this squad?
Beat by StBridgids after ET I think.
Won u14 & u16 sw A with that age group
Had a few LG  & Glen's lads most have now dropped out to focus on small ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 21, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 11:12:01 PM
How did Glenravel do at minor level with this squad?
Beat by StBridgids after ET I think.
Won u14 & u16 sw A with that age group
Had a few LG  & Glen's lads most have now dropped out to focus on small ball

So no mugs, they have developed well then, I haven't seen them in fairness, Cargin, st Brid's  were the stand out teams back then. Tir na Og were pretty decent this year also, but the Con's won well in that game.

Not sure how we'll fair. But bonus territory 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 22, 2021, 12:24:49 AM
Strong enough Glenravel team, the 2 Hynds brothers at midfield are formidable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 22, 2021, 01:01:40 AM
I see that murray has stepped away from st marys. Must be favorite to take LD id say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 08:02:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 21, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 11:12:01 PM
How did Glenravel do at minor level with this squad?
Beat by StBridgids after ET I think.
Won u14 & u16 sw A with that age group
Had a few LG  & Glen's lads most have now dropped out to focus on small ball

So no mugs, they have developed well then, I haven't seen them in fairness, Cargin, st Brid's  were the stand out teams back then. Tir na Og were pretty decent this year also, but the Con's won well in that game.

Not sure how we'll fair. But bonus territory
Bonus territory! that's a good one. All we've been reading about in the media is this great St Galls U20 squad. 2-3 articles in the Saffron Gael as well as comments by St Galls senior manager. Fair play to the 2 teams getting to the final but the competition itself and the format have been a farce. Hopefully lessons learned for 2022.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 08:55:39 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 08:02:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 21, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 11:12:01 PM
How did Glenravel do at minor level with this squad?
Beat by StBridgids after ET I think.
Won u14 & u16 sw A with that age group
Had a few LG  & Glen's lads most have now dropped out to focus on small ball

So no mugs, they have developed well then, I haven't seen them in fairness, Cargin, st Brid's  were the stand out teams back then. Tir na Og were pretty decent this year also, but the Con's won well in that game.

Not sure how we'll fair. But bonus territory
Bonus territory! that's a good one. All we've been reading about in the media is this great St Galls U20 squad. 2-3 articles in the Saffron Gael as well as comments by St Galls senior manager. Fair play to the 2 teams getting to the final but the competition itself and the format have been a farce. Hopefully lessons learned for 2022.

When you have time, I'd like to hear your format, and timing of the competition in the calendar year, no good saying its a farce and lesson to be learned if you haven't something to follow it up, who knows who looks in here

BTW the best team I seen this year at that level was Tir na Og, they were dispatched by Glenravel, If I was a betting man Glenravel would be favs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 22, 2021, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Covid, so no car sharing, personally I feel the umpires should get some expenses also

+1

But it'll never happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 22, 2021, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
In terms of that Glenravel u20 outfit I believe they only have 1 from another club. They need to push on. In terms of refs absolutely. Correct. Stand out this year is ray matthews as I have seen him go all four codes this year. Great servant to the refereeing community in Antrim

Only 3 codes, not 4. Never done any camogie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 22, 2021, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
In terms of that Glenravel u20 outfit I believe they only have 1 from another club. They need to push on. In terms of refs absolutely. Correct. Stand out this year is ray matthews as I have seen him go all four codes this year. Great servant to the refereeing community in Antrim

Only 3 codes, not 4. Never done any camogie

Just take the compliment ffs!!

Did a lot of camogie last year, albeit at the Uni, but none so far this year, lots of ladies football at the Uni though, very difficult to change your style to ladies and men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 22, 2021, 10:32:09 AM
Have only seen the Galls under 20 side once this year, and the were particularly impressive in beating what was a good Cargin line up by ten points.
MR2 has been particularly evasive on their formation and as only 7 remained from a very good minor side which only last by a single score to Cargin  in the minor semi 2019.

Must be a tribute to the most excellent coaching staff and big numbers up at Milltown.
Speaks volumes on a return to the good days at senior level as imminent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 22, 2021, 10:37:48 AM
8 new players? Surely not 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 22, 2021, 10:32:09 AM
Have only seen the Galls under 20 side once this year, and the were particularly impressive in beating what was a good Cargin line up by ten points.
MR2 has been particularly evasive on their formation and as only 7 remained from a very good minor side which only last by a single score to Cargin  in the minor semi 2019.

Must be a tribute to the most excellent coaching staff and big numbers up at Milltown.
Speaks volumes on a return to the good days at senior level as imminent.

One team can't filter into being a great team, we were winning five in a row at minor and under 21, those days would need to come back before we'd be in contention to winning Ulsters and All Irelands again. Getting beat in minor finals or semi's won't cut it.

CB, he without sin cast the first stone, you'll hardly be throwing stones ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 22, 2021, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 22, 2021, 10:32:09 AM
Have only seen the Galls under 20 side once this year, and the were particularly impressive in beating what was a good Cargin line up by ten points.
MR2 has been particularly evasive on their formation and as only 7 remained from a very good minor side which only last by a single score to Cargin  in the minor semi 2019.

Must be a tribute to the most excellent coaching staff and big numbers up at Milltown.
Speaks volumes on a return to the good days at senior level as imminent.

One team can't filter into being a great team, we were winning five in a row at minor and under 21, those days would need to come back before we'd be in contention to winning Ulsters and All Irelands again. Getting beat in minor finals or semi's won't cut it.

CB, he without sin cast the first stone, you'll hardly be throwing stones ;D

Giving a compliment.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 22, 2021, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 22, 2021, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
In terms of that Glenravel u20 outfit I believe they only have 1 from another club. They need to push on. In terms of refs absolutely. Correct. Stand out this year is ray matthews as I have seen him go all four codes this year. Great servant to the refereeing community in Antrim

Only 3 codes, not 4. Never done any camogie

Just take the compliment ffs!!

Did a lot of camogie last year, albeit at the Uni, but none so far this year, lots of ladies football at the Uni though, very difficult to change your style to ladies and men

Sorry boss, you're right, thank you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 23, 2021, 11:19:57 AM
I still can't work out how the u20s is going ahead when loads of teams have pulled out and other clubs penalised because of that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 23, 2021, 01:49:30 PM
Any truth in Kevin Murray as new LD manager. Quality and experienced manager/coach. Has taken Queens & Aghagallon, maybe time for his own family club and won't break the bank either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Spoke to Gareth and Andy very recently and both are committed to our juvenile development team in the club, so I don't think there is any truth in that PJ and Referee. Good work they do too, taking teams there wasn't exactly a massive queue for. So fair play to them.

I had a feeling Kevin Murray would answer the call at LD. Good appointment up the Hill  He can leave St Mary's with a lot of goodwill....sometimes you can spoil a decent legacy by staying a year too many.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 23, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
See in Armagh a motion has been put through to play on a Friday night or a Sunday  ;D We could maybe put through something similar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 23, 2021, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 23, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
See in Armagh a motion has been put through to play on a Friday night or a Sunday  ;D We could maybe put through something similar

County convention proposals cut off date was 8th November.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 23, 2021, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Spoke to Gareth and Andy very recently and both are committed to our juvenile development team in the club, so I don't think there is any truth in that PJ and Referee. Good work they do too, taking teams there wasn't exactly a massive queue for. So fair play to them.

I had a feeling Kevin Murray would answer the call at LD. Good appointment up the Hill  He can leave St Mary's with a lot of goodwill....sometimes you can spoil a decent legacy by staying a year too many.
don't think he Would be welcome up the hill I hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 23, 2021, 08:26:28 PM
PJ still not having you call anyone a muppet or a clown. What do you know of the man?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
Seems J Mc Keever was seen in Cargin club this evening...

Only saying........

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 23, 2021, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
Seems J Mc Keever was seen in Cargin club this evening...

Only saying........

Is it a Mo Johnston moment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 23, 2021, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
Seems J Mc Keever was seen in Cargin club this evening...

Only saying........

Is it a Mo Johnston moment
Could it be Saffron to Green....not green to Orange...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2021, 09:08:11 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on November 23, 2021, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
Seems J Mc Keever was seen in Cargin club this evening...

Only saying........

Is it a Mo Johnston moment

No that would be a Rossa man looking after the Johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 23, 2021, 09:53:19 PM
Nothing to see here....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 09:57:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2021, 09:53:19 PM
Nothing to see here....

My info wrong.....excellent source......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 23, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 23, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
Seems J Mc Keever was seen in Cargin club this evening...

Only saying........

With his motivational skills and Devlin tactical skills, Cargin be a hard nut to crack.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

Problem for u20 in April -June is the exam schedule, A level and uni exams. Biggest problem we had with u20 this year was our own fault, lads partying and not available. Though 3pm on a Saturday is a ridiculous time, Sunday games would have helped a bit. Too many clubs including my own calling games off because they were missing a couple of players instead of just getting on with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 08:32:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 23, 2021, 01:57:00 PM
Spoke to Gareth and Andy very recently and both are committed to our juvenile development team in the club, so I don't think there is any truth in that PJ and Referee. Good work they do too, taking teams there wasn't exactly a massive queue for. So fair play to them.

I had a feeling Kevin Murray would answer the call at LD. Good appointment up the Hill  He can leave St Mary's with a lot of goodwill....sometimes you can spoil a decent legacy by staying a year too many.

Kevin Murray going with the county u15 development squad, suppose that wouldnt really interfere with a club role anyway i dont think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 24, 2021, 08:40:03 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

Problem for u20 in April -June is the exam schedule, A level and uni exams. Biggest problem we had with u20 this year was our own fault, lads partying and not available. Though 3pm on a Saturday is a ridiculous time, Sunday games would have helped a bit. Too many clubs including my own calling games off because they were missing a couple of players instead of just getting on with it.

Or maybe if they had of made it straight knockout? losers in the first round go into a B competition? that not more sensible instead of having to play dead rubbers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 08:43:31 AM
The gap between the age is too much, why was it always a 3 year difference over the normal 2 year differences in other juvenile competitions, maybe the older ones could have an answer for that one.

That 3 years clubs lose kids to college, drink and women!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 24, 2021, 08:40:03 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

Problem for u20 in April -June is the exam schedule, A level and uni exams. Biggest problem we had with u20 this year was our own fault, lads partying and not available. Though 3pm on a Saturday is a ridiculous time, Sunday games would have helped a bit. Too many clubs including my own calling games off because they were missing a couple of players instead of just getting on with it.

Or maybe if they had of made it straight knockout? losers in the first round go into a B competition? that not more sensible instead of having to play dead rubbers

Issue i always found with the straight knockout and then into B competition was you could get 2 super teams play each other in the first round and then you end up a team wiping the floor with everyone in B competition, no use to anyone. Also straight knockout doesnt address the issue of game time for this age group, massive drop out of our games for 16-20 year olds, always felt the lack of games was a major contributor to this. Really think we need to have an u19 league not just a championship, but still would prefer it back to u16 u18 but that looks unlikely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

would teams 3rd and 4th place in each group go into the B semi finals? Or is B a separate group altogether with the proposal EOC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Sorry Mr Admin, I replied but it was in a 2nd post 10 mins later when you asked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 24, 2021, 12:50:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 08:55:39 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 08:02:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2021, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 21, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2021, 11:12:01 PM
How did Glenravel do at minor level with this squad?
Beat by StBridgids after ET I think.
Won u14 & u16 sw A with that age group
Had a few LG  & Glen's lads most have now dropped out to focus on small ball

So no mugs, they have developed well then, I haven't seen them in fairness, Cargin, st Brid's  were the stand out teams back then. Tir na Og were pretty decent this year also, but the Con's won well in that game.

Not sure how we'll fair. But bonus territory
Bonus territory! that's a good one. All we've been reading about in the media is this great St Galls U20 squad. 2-3 articles in the Saffron Gael as well as comments by St Galls senior manager. Fair play to the 2 teams getting to the final but the competition itself and the format have been a farce. Hopefully lessons learned for 2022.

When you have time, I'd like to hear your format, and timing of the competition in the calendar year, no good saying its a farce and lesson to be learned if you haven't something to follow it up, who knows who looks in here

BTW the best team I seen this year at that level was Tir na Og, they were dispatched by Glenravel, If I was a betting man Glenravel would be favs

Didn't help 2 Tír na nÓg men getting the line in that game.....should have won otherwise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Sorry Mr Admin, I replied but it was in a 2nd post 10 mins later when you asked.

That's ok, I'll let you off this time! Looking around the other counties, where does the under 20 competition work?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Sorry Mr Admin, I replied but it was in a 2nd post 10 mins later when you asked.

That's ok, I'll let you off this time! Looking around the other counties, where does the under 20 competition work?

Derry is running at the moment. They ran an u18.5 competition mid summer which helped bridge the gap.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Sorry Mr Admin, I replied but it was in a 2nd post 10 mins later when you asked.

That's ok, I'll let you off this time! Looking around the other counties, where does the under 20 competition work?

Derry is running at the moment. They ran an u18.5 competition mid summer which helped bridge the gap.

Would 13 aside help?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 24, 2021, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Sorry Mr Admin, I replied but it was in a 2nd post 10 mins later when you asked.

That's ok, I'll let you off this time! Looking around the other counties, where does the under 20 competition work?

Derry is running at the moment. They ran an u18.5 competition mid summer which helped bridge the gap.

Would 13 aside help?

13 a side would be a massive help.

Scheduling also was it a much more difficult but to crack. Possibly a pre senior league tournament in March time. Trying to play it alongside senior championships this year was non sensical. Teams having an U20 game on a Saturday with an Adult Championship game with a large crossover of players was always going to see the U20 game conceded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 05:11:01 PM
Just seen a under 19 C championship final in Galway on my FB page, final must have been at the weekend, some similar dates just a different age group
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 24, 2021, 05:51:45 PM
The u20 competition should have been scrapped. We had games called off and scheduled for the same time and day as our senior championship times. Surely that's not fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 24, 2021, 05:51:45 PM
The u20 competition should have been scrapped. We had games called off and scheduled for the same time and day as our senior championship times. Surely that's not fair.
You've  won enough this year, let the minnows have a chance!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 24, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
Did you not fancy the 'B' championship final in the end up MR2 or did you fear for your safety going down to Cargin?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on November 24, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
Did you not fancy the 'B' championship final in the end up MR2 or did you fear for your safety going down to Cargin?

Match was fixed for Sunday, was changed for some reason, unfortunately I'd lunch with my mum and sisters arranged weeks ago.

I'll be up in Cargin no doubt first match of the year, they've only lost one game I've  been in charge, I'd be their lucky charm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 10:55:30 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on November 24, 2021, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 24, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 24, 2021, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2021, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2021, 09:06:17 AM
Played in April - May directly after the intercounty U20 competition and long before senior club football gets serious. Two groups of 6 with top 2 in each going into semi finals. This years format of 1 going through created all the dead rubber games.
I don't just write on here btw I know this has been proposed to the relevant people, our club will also be proposing it at Antrim convention.
That ok for you?

If you'd have followed up in the same post with your proposals then that could have been discussed, saying it was a farce and leaving it at that won't attempt to fix the problem. The dates are won't help, If i was studying for college or school exams then my concentration would be on those unfortunately.

Its the timing, fixing it during the calendar year is the hardest part. straight knockout 2 competitions, A level and a B level.
Sorry Mr Admin, I replied but it was in a 2nd post 10 mins later when you asked.

That's ok, I'll let you off this time! Looking around the other counties, where does the under 20 competition work?

Derry is running at the moment. They ran an u18.5 competition mid summer which helped bridge the gap.

Would 13 aside help?

13 a side would be a massive help.

Scheduling also was it a much more difficult but to crack. Possibly a pre senior league tournament in March time. Trying to play it alongside senior championships this year was non sensical. Teams having an U20 game on a Saturday with an Adult Championship game with a large crossover of players was always going to see the U20 game conceded

Does March-April not be the time the county u20 competition runs?
Not an easy problem to fix as you say with scheduling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently

What does that mean BGM, drifting out to sw?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

I wonder how many complaints about Casement was there when it was filled back in the day? It's madness, for the actual amount of time the place will have large volumes of people attending games or even concerts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:21:36 PM
Yeah 100%. Maybe they are just digging their heels for a bit of coin...

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

I wonder how many complaints about Casement was there when it was filled back in the day? It's madness, for the actual amount of time the place will have large volumes of people attending games or even concerts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

I wonder how many complaints about Casement was there when it was filled back in the day? It's madness, for the actual amount of time the place will have large volumes of people attending games or even concerts.
Is it not more the fact the new ground over shadows their houses. Reasonable enough complaint if you ask me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:33:09 PM
Agreed. You think they would consider building it out in the country? Cant see it myself. But if it continues to rumble on it wouldnt be out of the realms of possibility.


Quote from: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

I wonder how many complaints about Casement was there when it was filled back in the day? It's madness, for the actual amount of time the place will have large volumes of people attending games or even concerts.
Is it not more the fact the new ground over shadows their houses. Reasonable enough complaint if you ask me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:41:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

 

I wonder how many complaints about Casement was there when it was filled back in the day? It's madness, for the actual amount of time the place will have large volumes of people attending games or even concerts.
Is it not more the fact the new ground over shadows their houses. Reasonable enough complaint if you ask me.

Ok so that's the sole complaint, I can go with that. lets put it in Musgrave , even closer to train station and motorway, no houses will be covered either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 25, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

if only there was somewhere in the antrim/randalstown area that the county had land that they could have developed as an alternative to Casement......but then again that would maybe be a (dun)silly idea.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 03:22:19 PM
Downgrade the plans to something that wont even need permission, like Armagh Athletic Grounds, basically an upgrade on what we had. Get Ulster GAA away out of it, especially their spokesman, who seems to be making a career out this long running saga.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 25, 2021, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:41:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 25, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Reading the irish news there about casement. I completely understand where the residents are coming from and why they are opposed to it. Would antrim ever consider changing location? It has became farcical the length of time it has taken and it doesnt seem to be getting any further to being built. Maybe consider building it around antrim/Randalstown areas as central to everyone?

Just for the record i want it built where its at. Absolutely loved playing and watching games there and was always a great buzz when antrim played in championship, those days were hard to beat.

 

I wonder how many complaints about Casement was there when it was filled back in the day? It's madness, for the actual amount of time the place will have large volumes of people attending games or even concerts.
Is it not more the fact the new ground over shadows their houses. Reasonable enough complaint if you ask me.

Ok so that's the sole complaint, I can go with that. lets put it in Musgrave , even closer to train station and motorway, no houses will be covered either
How much would you estimate the land at Musgrave would cost to buy. They were getting Casement for nothing. Their greed and arrogance didn't stop there and that's what led them into problems.

I'd assume that Musgrave is a owned by the BCC so wouldn't know how much the government would charge itself, probably a clean fortune going by dealings within the the government
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 25, 2021, 03:49:28 PM
If people think it would be bad getting to Casement because of traffic then they would really be pissed off when they see the tailbacks into Antrim or Randalstown!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 25, 2021, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 03:22:19 PM
Downgrade the plans to something that wont even need permission, like Armagh Athletic Grounds, basically an upgrade on what we had. Get Ulster GAA away out of it, especially their spokesman, who seems to be making a career out this long running saga.
100%.  What we need is an Athletic Grounds model. Perfect for creating an atmosphere for club finals, national league, or county championship home draws.  Casement is a spiritual home for Antrim so it really has to be there, but they can build their Ulster stadium somewhere else (and 100% correct that there are a few people knocking a career out of the whole shambles at everyone else's expense).  Football in Antrim has suffered long enough.  There's a whole generation of young people growing up who, with complete respect, think Ahoghill or Corrigan is as good as it gets.  They never experienced the big days at Casement. There weren't many, but they were another level when they did happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently

What does that mean BGM, drifting out to sw?
Gaelfast meant to be a mostly Belfast initiative but seem to spend more time out of Belfast in Strong GAA areas in SW than in Belfast areas with little GAA going on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2021, 06:09:03 PM
Most times I read about them they're in Belfast bgm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently

What does that mean BGM, drifting out to sw?
Gaelfast meant to be a mostly Belfast initiative but seem to spend more time out of Belfast in Strong GAA areas in SW than in Belfast areas with little GAA going on
That's not really true though is it, facts aren't your forte
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 25, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
Wee Barry away to Ballymacnab, surprised at that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 25, 2021, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 25, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
Wee Barry away to Ballymacnab, surprised at that.

Bannside's mate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently

What does that mean BGM, drifting out to sw?
Gaelfast meant to be a mostly Belfast initiative but seem to spend more time out of Belfast in Strong GAA areas in SW than in Belfast areas with little GAA going on
That's not really true though is it, facts aren't your forte
the clue is in the name of program lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 25, 2021, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 25, 2021, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 25, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
That's him
Wee Barry away to Ballymacnab, surprised at that.

Bannside's mate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 25, 2021, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 25, 2021, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently

What does that mean BGM, drifting out to sw?
Gaelfast meant to be a mostly Belfast initiative but seem to spend more time out of Belfast in Strong GAA areas in SW than in Belfast areas with little GAA going on
That's not really true though is it, facts aren't your forte
the clue is in the name of program lad

Seem to? I only occasionally have seen them outside Belfast.  Can you not track where they are and put up the stats??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on November 25, 2021, 09:35:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 01:45:08 PM
casement held up by residents again!!!!!!
Any good new out there for city gaels?
looks like Gaelfast is drifting out to SW again think i saw them at randalstown recently

What does that mean BGM, drifting out to sw?
Gaelfast meant to be a mostly Belfast initiative but seem to spend more time out of Belfast in Strong GAA areas in SW than in Belfast areas with little GAA going on

1) Would you ever grow a set and air your queries/complaints with them?
2) I've just seen a video today of them in the Markets assisting St Mals revive their juvenile.
3) Do you want the county staff to cut all ties with SW and NA? Surely you're not stupid enough to think that'd be the case? As far as I know, from previous conversations with the old Director, the money for Gaelfast has went to staffing Belfast, and there was historic agreements that fund staff for SW/NA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
look at Atrim twitter - its wasn't Gaelfast it was the Markets Development Association & St Malachys the club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 10:19:34 PM
Was there a post retracted or did our scribe get it wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on November 25, 2021, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
look at Atrim twitter - its wasn't Gaelfast it was the Markets Development Association & St Malachys the club

OK I've just did what you hadn't the stones for, and asked one of the coaches.
Gaelfast are running the sessions in the school and pulling kids to the club sessions again which they're running alongside the club, MDA and school.
But that mustn't be right because you saw it on Twitter...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ciall on November 25, 2021, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
look at Atrim twitter - its wasn't Gaelfast it was the Markets Development Association & St Malachys the club

OK I've just did what you hadn't the stones for, and asked one of the coaches.
Gaelfast are running the sessions in the school and pulling kids to the club sessions again which they're running alongside the club, MDA and school.
But that mustn't be right because you saw it on Twitter...
thanks for explaining well done you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 25, 2021, 10:44:23 PM
Is St. Malachy's the only club round the direction? Do they have a pitch? Massive population around there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2021, 10:49:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 25, 2021, 10:44:23 PM
Is St. Malachy's the only club round the direction? Do they have a pitch? Massive population around there.

Generally played at Cherryvale. Plenty of potential but soccer is big around there also, there was another club about there during the day. Sean Martin's, not sure they are still about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 25, 2021, 11:54:24 PM
Smoke signals in con Magee I hear, joe Cassidy the new manager, anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 26, 2021, 06:46:48 AM
The judge pointed out: "In the absence of a tender process and contracts being signed, no work is going to commence in the immediate future".

And If it doesn't go out again for Tender the other 5 companies will have it back in court, so at best another 4-5 years away, and how much will it cost then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

It's beyond embarrassing how its got to this point, that fundamental errors throughout the whole process was/is allowed to continue, whoever was in charge of overseeing this building project really needs to take a hard look at him/herself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 26, 2021, 08:56:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

Antrim GAA really do need to understand that whatever form Casement takes, it will be under the sole control of the Ulster Council.

Don't be expecting the South Antrim schools finals to be played there unless Antrim GAA pony up to get it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
I'd have expected our "trusted" officials to have nailed down guarantees of this type at the onset. Verbally (not worth a thing) or written down is the question!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

It's beyond embarrassing how its got to this point, that fundamental errors throughout the whole process was/is allowed to continue, whoever was in charge of overseeing this building project really needs to take a hard look at him/herself

None of those ulster GAA chiefs have covered themselves in any glory either and as for the politicians well less said the better.

We gave it away as JC said - not ours! A lot of the mistakes now are not ours but the criminal one was giving it away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 26, 2021, 09:10:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
I'd have expected our "trusted" officials to have nailed down guarantees of this type at the onset. Verbally (not worth a thing) or written down is the question!

What Antrim GAA really should have been pushing for is a Linfield/IFA type deal over Windsor but I think one of the more clued in contributors here back at the early phase of the process believed the then Antrim executive gave away the deeds for nothing more than the sight of a few glittery baubles and that the lads in charge of the social club put up a better fight and have won themselves some floor space in the new stadium with various caveats on matchdays..

Maybe the Shinners were putting pressure on in the background, who knows but on the face of it Antrim GAA seem to have been shafted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2021, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 26, 2021, 09:10:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
I'd have expected our "trusted" officials to have nailed down guarantees of this type at the onset. Verbally (not worth a thing) or written down is the question!

What Antrim GAA really should have been pushing for is a Linfield/IFA type deal over Windsor but I think one of the more clued in contributors here back at the early phase of the process believed the then Antrim executive gave away the deeds for nothing more than the sight of a few glittery baubles and that the lads in charge of the social club put up a better fight and have won themselves some floor space in the new stadium with various caveats on matchdays..

Maybe the Shinners were putting pressure on in the background, who knows but on the face of it Antrim GAA seem to have been shafted.

A distinct possibility.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 26, 2021, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

It's beyond embarrassing how its got to this point, that fundamental errors throughout the whole process was/is allowed to continue, whoever was in charge of overseeing this building project really needs to take a hard look at him/herself
The Ballinderry lad McGeehan is front and centre of it, you look at his twitter feed and it's everyone else's fault Casement hasn't happened. Ulster GAA to blame and he in particular should be called out on it more, given the bull he spouts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 26, 2021, 10:42:39 AM
Paddy Cunningham announces his retirement from Inter county. What a great player has been over the years for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 26, 2021, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: Ciall on November 25, 2021, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 25, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
look at Atrim twitter - its wasn't Gaelfast it was the Markets Development Association & St Malachys the club

OK I've just did what you hadn't the stones for, and asked one of the coaches.
Gaelfast are running the sessions in the school and pulling kids to the club sessions again which they're running alongside the club, MDA and school.
But that mustn't be right because you saw it on Twitter...
it's not like Gaelfast to Keep their role quiet. But this is brilliant and exactly what we need on belfast. Areas with big populations with no big GAA going. No doubt there are many more. Well done to all on this St Mals effort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 26, 2021, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

It's beyond embarrassing how its got to this point, that fundamental errors throughout the whole process was/is allowed to continue, whoever was in charge of overseeing this building project really needs to take a hard look at him/herself
The Ballinderry lad McGeehan is front and centre of it, you look at his twitter feed and it's everyone else's fault Casement hasn't happened. Ulster GAA to blame and he in particular should be called out on it more, given the bull he spouts

Him and his predecessor just seem to be wannabe politicians.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
Reading irish news this morning I see an Aghagallon playing in ulster camogie representing armagh. Jim is that your crew and if it is I'm opening a can of whoop ass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 26, 2021, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

It's beyond embarrassing how its got to this point, that fundamental errors throughout the whole process was/is allowed to continue, whoever was in charge of overseeing this building project really needs to take a hard look at him/herself
The Ballinderry lad McGeehan is front and centre of it, you look at his twitter feed and it's everyone else's fault Casement hasn't happened. Ulster GAA to blame and he in particular should be called out on it more, given the bull he spouts

Wouldn't be a twitter man, christ this takes up enough time lol..

Surely when given a building contract to do there are certain things that need to be carried out, basic things like is it safe, will the residents be on board, follow proper tender procedures and be flexible on the design to create a stadium that 99% of the people will be happy with, you will never keep everyone happy, that's a given.

I'm sure there are building control/planners on here with far better knowledge, but you'd have hoped this lad McGeehan which such a high profile build would have at the very least followed a basic line.

Regardless of the government and the funding and whatever, it has to follow a pathway, it seems that hasn't been the case and they have made a huge Horlicks of this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
Reading irish news this morning I see an Aghagallon playing in ulster camogie representing armagh. Jim is that your crew and if it is I'm opening a can of whoop ass.

Down team have been playing senior hurling in Antrim for decades, and long may it continue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 26, 2021, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 26, 2021, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were twenty years in casement. It is an utter balls up and we just need to get on without it.

It's beyond embarrassing how its got to this point, that fundamental errors throughout the whole process was/is allowed to continue, whoever was in charge of overseeing this building project really needs to take a hard look at him/herself
The Ballinderry lad McGeehan is front and centre of it, you look at his twitter feed and it's everyone else's fault Casement hasn't happened. Ulster GAA to blame and he in particular should be called out on it more, given the bull he spouts

Him and his predecessor just seem to be wannabe politicians.

Feeney?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 11:07:07 AM
Yeah
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 26, 2021, 11:08:56 AM
Very difficult to stay positive about the Casement project. I was of an understanding that the issues cited by the previous JR had been addressed and any further objection was spurious and wouldn't count, thats obviously not the case it seems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
They can't represent armagh in camogie and antrim in football. Down teams play down championship.
Reading irish news this morning I see an Aghagallon playing in ulster camogie representing armagh. Jim is that your crew and if it is I'm opening a can of whoop ass.

Down team have been playing senior hurling in Antrim for decades, and long may it continue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
They can't represent armagh in camogie and antrim in football. Down teams play down championship.
Reading irish news this morning I see an Aghagallon playing in ulster camogie representing armagh. Jim is that your crew and if it is I'm opening a can of whoop ass.

Down team have been playing senior hurling in Antrim for decades, and long may it continue

We've been playing in Armagh for many years and our players represent Armagh at county camogie level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 26, 2021, 12:04:11 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
They can't represent armagh in camogie and antrim in football. Down teams play down championship.
Reading irish news this morning I see an Aghagallon playing in ulster camogie representing armagh. Jim is that your crew and if it is I'm opening a can of whoop ass.

Down team have been playing senior hurling in Antrim for decades, and long may it continue

We've been playing in Armagh for many years and our players represent Armagh at county camogie level.

Is that because the Camogie Association is separate from the GAA?

What'll happen if they do merge as looks more likely after the recent announcement that the GAA is taking over the Camogie Associations commercial activities which was one of the big stumbling blocks a few years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 12:33:08 PM
I'm not sure. I don't see a problem with them playing in Armagh. I'd rather our underage up to the age of 13 played in the North Armagh league. It would be a 5min journey into Lurgan for a match with young children rather than an hour or more journey up to the likes of Dunloy etc. We've about 10 good Gaelic clubs right beside us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 12:43:57 PM
Up to u13🤔🤔😀😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 12:43:57 PM
Up to u13🤔🤔😀😀

Armagh goes all county from 13 upwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 12:59:10 PM
Lol. I love spending half a weekend getting to Aghagallon😃 great guys they are too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 01:01:23 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 12:59:10 PM
Lol. I love spending half a weekend getting to Aghagallon😃 great guys they are too.

I totally agree! It's worth the journey and the welcome you would receive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 01:42:15 PM
What do young hurlers around Aghagallon do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 01:42:15 PM
What do young hurlers around Aghagallon do?

Generally play for Sean Traceys in Lurgan. One lad plays for Sarsfields in Belfast. As you know hurling wouldn't be played much around here though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 01:51:16 PM
Just interested. Do ye lose many players to Lurgan, is there a defined border? We are fairly lucky here with a clear border between Antrim and Derry, I don't know of any people our side of bridge playing for Greenlough, there may be a few from pg1 families living on derry side but playing for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 01:42:15 PM
What do young hurlers around Aghagallon do?

Same as they do around Portglenone Id imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 01:57:50 PM
No MR2 pg1 hurlers would go to nearby club, many examples in past, Ahoghill, lavey, slaughtneil so I was merely asking!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 01:57:50 PM
No MR2 pg1 hurlers would go to nearby club, many examples in past, Ahoghill, lavey, slaughtneil so I was merely asking!

I'd have assumed they did go to nearby clubs, so as they do at Jims club, going to a local club is grand, whether its in Antrim Armagh or Derry, as long as they are playing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 02:45:35 PM
We have lost a few to Lurgan clubs before but not too many and not for a while. You get the odd child that lives in Aghagallon that plays for a Lurgan team because of family connection but 99% of the parish all play for us. There's a stretch of road about 2 mile odd long that goes into Lurgan and on that stretch you'll go through Antrim, Armagh and Down. All the lads go to school, play other sports and socialise in Lurgan and a lot of best mates will be from Lurgan. If we had won the final and been playing Clann Eireann it would have been amazing as we know everyone on the team and loads of friends in the Clann Eireann club. Apart from county lads, we would have very little dealings with any of the clubs in Antrim. Within a 5 mile radius of Lurgan you have Aghagallon, Clann Eireann, St. Peters, St. Pauls, Clan na Gael, Eire Og, Sarsfields, Wolfe Tones, Magheralin and then slightly further out you have Tir na Nog Portadown and Maghery. And people in Belfast say there are too many clubs in West Belfast!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣

That might give you a chance next year  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 26, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣

That might give you a chance next year  ;D

They will be looking a clarification on county borders next.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 26, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣

That might give you a chance next year  ;D

They will be looking a clarification on county borders next.

;D

In fairness Ports are closer to a border than St Mary's, been loads of clubs looking to play in different counties over the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
A well deserved shout out to Paddy Cunningham who announced his retirement today from the inter county stage after an illustrious innings. His contribution to the cause will be fondly recalled, and his status as an Antrim Legend fully deserved. Thanks for the memories Paddy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣

We just want our independence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 27, 2021, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 26, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
A well deserved shout out to Paddy Cunningham who announced his retirement today from the inter county stage after an illustrious innings. His contribution to the cause will be fondly recalled, and his status as an Antrim Legend fully deserved. Thanks for the memories Paddy.

A great career. Paddy wasn't an underage star by any means but seemed to just improve around the ago of 19/20 and really kicked on from there. Seems to have a lot of business ventures on the go and he's in the hardest profession known to man. Don't know how he had the time for it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2021, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 26, 2021, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣

We just want our independence

The principality of aghagallon ;D

Paddy Cunningham a legend. Remember his ulster final performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 27, 2021, 10:55:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 26, 2021, 06:59:41 PM
So what you are saying Jim is you wanna  be in Armagh..... yes?🤣

That might give you a chance next year  ;D

Don't know how I missed this! At least we would have better referees in Armagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 27, 2021, 12:34:00 PM
I wouldn't bank on that JS from what I hear they are dodgy enough too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 27, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
I heard a name today for the Rasharkin football job and by god if its true it would put many a county to shame. Must be big bucks there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 02:16:01 AM
Listened to dermot mcaleese interview there. Is god gracing the casements?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 28, 2021, 02:31:21 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 27, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
I heard a name today for the Rasharkin football job and by god if its true it would put many a county to shame. Must be big bucks there.

The Horse?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2021, 09:18:10 AM
LOL Geezer, if only! John and PC would be firm friends and work colleagues, so if anyone can coerce PC into taking one or two sessions pre championship it will be John.

Looked like a good night at the Devenish, the absence of big Marty Johnston on the rostrum took away an awful lot of the events integrity just in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 10:23:17 AM
He could do a job at 15

Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2021, 09:18:10 AM
LOL Geezer, if only! John and PC would be firm friends and work colleagues, so if anyone can coerce PC into taking one or two sessions pre championship it will be John.

Looked like a good night at the Devenish, the absence of big Marty Johnston on the rostrum took away an awful lot of the events integrity just in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 10:49:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2021, 09:18:10 AM
LOL Geezer, if only! John and PC would be firm friends and work colleagues, so if anyone can coerce PC into taking one or two sessions pre championship it will be John.

Looked like a good night at the Devenish, the absence of big Marty Johnston on the rostrum took away an awful lot of the events integrity just in my opinion.

And these things are just about opinions, if you'd pick your 15, someone would say it was a good pick.

Try and look at it for what it is, 3 peoples opinions followed by the public picking the winners. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2021, 11:36:03 AM
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/15-for-50-best-pwc-all-star-football-team-492525

I enjoyed this....being of a vintage where I can recall every player under the microscope!

Best 15 players from the last 50 years in the opinion of Peter the Great, Oisin Mc Conville and John O Mahony.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 28, 2021, 12:00:00 PM
No Tockill. Them boys knows nahin about football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 12:18:59 PM
If we had God on during Extra time in semi final at 15, we would not have lost, fact!
I would say his involvement would be the odd session.
As for Rasharkin let's just say this man has won big at inter County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 12:18:59 PM
If we had God on during Extra time in semi final at 15, we would not have lost, fact!
I would say his involvement would be the odd session.
As for Rasharkin let's just say this man has won big at inter County.
RC big at inter County in management or on the field

Will he be up to Antrim JFC level

Are you just winding up the neigbours
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Ardoyne had Ross Carr last year did they not? Big names not unheard of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Well known as a player!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Ardoyne had Ross Carr last year did they not? Big names not unheard of.

True. From outside looks to have done a decent job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Well known as a player!

Class of 93?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 28, 2021, 01:38:22 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Well known as a player!

Class of 93?

They've had one of them before, ended in relegation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 28, 2021, 01:38:22 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Well known as a player!

Class of 93?

They've had one of them before, ended in relegation

Don't think that's right. Was he not a Spoofer though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 28, 2021, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: referee on November 28, 2021, 01:52:02 PM
Hoof am I hearing right that Ronan Rocks is in at Moneyglass and taking Joe Cassidy with him or maybe its the other way around

No idea ref
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 28, 2021, 03:01:15 PM
Quote from: referee on November 28, 2021, 01:52:02 PM
Hoof am I hearing right that Ronan Rocks is in at Moneyglass and taking Joe Cassidy with him or maybe its the other way around
Joe Cassidy is assuming the hot seat at Glenravel.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on November 28, 2021, 06:33:09 PM
Spoofer well thought of in Rasharkin and we had no issues in his 3 years at Dreen.

RC you need a better bullshit detector
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on November 28, 2021, 06:47:45 PM
Quote from: Dreen on November 28, 2021, 06:33:09 PM
Spoofer well thought of in Rasharkin and we had no issues in his 3 years at Dreen.

RC you need a better bullshit detector
If RC couldn't work out their own management last year were bullshitters then his detector is completely broken
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on November 28, 2021, 06:56:29 PM
Let me be straight I couldn't give wan flying f### about Rasharkin I was just saying I'd heard a big name was on the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 28, 2021, 07:05:15 PM
Are sharkin still div 3/junior championship next season ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 07:12:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 28, 2021, 07:05:15 PM
Are sharkin still div 3/junior championship next season ?

If RC's knowledge is to believed :D they'll be pushing Creggan next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 28, 2021, 07:05:15 PM
Are sharkin still div 3/junior championship next season ?

I think they won Div3 so will be promoted. Not sure of the championship they'll play though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 09:31:55 PM
Is paul doc still playing for rasharkin no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 09:43:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 28, 2021, 09:31:55 PM
Is paul doc still playing for rasharkin no?

Hasn't played as years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 09:55:05 PM
What a player he was. Class.

Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 09:43:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 28, 2021, 09:31:55 PM
Is paul doc still playing for rasharkin no?

Hasn't played as years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 10:14:47 PM
Any word on jonnies, LD, st marys manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 10:23:07 PM
Hard to argue against any of the picks. Personally loved watching anthony tohill growing up, absolute machine of a man.

Sean cavanagh harshly done by?  Everyone knew his shuffle dunmy was coming but couldnt stop it!

I would maybe have mcmanus or murphy in? diarmuid connolly? Arguably the greatest natural footballer of all time.

So many good players, each person will have their opinion of who they would have in for differing reasons.


quote author=bannside link=topic=21.msg2089294#msg2089294 date=1638099363]
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/15-for-50-best-pwc-all-star-football-team-492525

I enjoyed this....being of a vintage where I can recall every player under the microscope!

Best 15 players from the last 50 years in the opinion of Peter the Great, Oisin Mc Conville and John O Mahony.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 28, 2021, 11:28:08 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 28, 2021, 10:23:07 PM
Hard to argue against any of the picks. Personally loved watching anthony tohill growing up, absolute machine of a man.

Sean cavanagh harshly done by?  Everyone knew his shuffle dunmy was coming but couldnt stop it!

I would maybe have mcmanus or murphy in? diarmuid connolly? Arguably the greatest natural footballer of all time.

So many good players, each person will have their opinion of who they would have in for differing reasons.


quote author=bannside link=topic=21.msg2089294#msg2089294 date=1638099363]
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/15-for-50-best-pwc-all-star-football-team-492525

I enjoyed this....being of a vintage where I can recall every player under the microscope!

Best 15 players from the last 50 years in the opinion of Peter the Great, Oisin Mc Conville and John O Mahony.
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Maurice Fitz! Couldn't believe he wasn't included
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 11:39:06 PM
Jesus! Forgot all about him. Absolute shoe in. Wont see many better footballs than michael donnellan either. Declan osullivan another 1.

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Quote from: geezer on November 28, 2021, 10:23:07 PM
Hard to argue against any of the picks. Personally loved watching anthony tohill growing up, absolute machine of a man.

Sean cavanagh harshly done by?  Everyone knew his shuffle dunmy was coming but couldnt stop it!

I would maybe have mcmanus or murphy in? diarmuid connolly? Arguably the greatest natural footballer of all time.

So many good players, each person will have their opinion of who they would have in for differing reasons.


quote author=bannside link=topic=21.msg2089294#msg2089294 date=1638099363]
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/15-for-50-best-pwc-all-star-football-team-492525

I enjoyed this....being of a vintage where I can recall every player under the microscope!

Best 15 players from the last 50 years in the opinion of Peter the Great, Oisin Mc Conville and John O Mahony.
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Maurice Fitz! Couldn't believe he wasn't included
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 11:43:58 PM
May be a left field option and i do think he gets the respect he derseves, but i think mattie forde could have been in with a shout. A supreme footballer.

If he played for a winning county I believe he would be in the conversation with the best forwards ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2021, 11:45:26 PM
Easy to say who should be in. Who would you take out?

John Egan some player to miss out.  Matt Connor too. And Mike Sheehy Omg

I'd have Michael Murphy in for Padraig Joyce.  They are all grade A superstars at this level of conversation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 28, 2021, 11:51:24 PM
Mattie Forde, Declan Browne, Conor Mc Manus....Paddy Bradley or Oisin Mc Conville....Stevie the great.... some players NOT to have in your forward line.

Arguably as good as the six who made it. All opinions.
And then some. Michael Murphy  Ciaran Kilkenny or Stevie from Killeavy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 28, 2021, 11:53:38 PM
Agreed, id have murphy for joyce but then again joyce was some boy.

Everyone will have a different 15 as there has been so many class players, however, canavan is the best player of all time and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Him and paddy kelly with be a great full forward line next year 😃

Quote from: bannside on November 28, 2021, 11:45:26 PM
Easy to say who should be in. Who would you take out?

John Egan some player to miss out.  Matt Connor too. And Mike Sheehy Omg

I'd have Michael Murphy in for Padraig Joyce.  They are all grade A superstars at this level of conversation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on November 29, 2021, 03:53:49 AM
I hate these things, why not just list the top 15 players who received the most All Stars in that position.

The problem is that the team would be dominated by Kerry.

Top 14 players with total All Starts

9   Pat Spillane   
8   Colm Cooper   
7   Mikey Sheehy   
6   Stephen Cluxton
6    Peter Canavan   
6   Jack O'Shea   
6   Ger Power   
5   Brian Fenton   
5   John Egan   
5   John O'Keeffe   
5   Páidí Ó Sé   
5   Tomás Ó Sé   
5   John O'Leary   
5   Seán Cavanagh   

With the exception of John O'Leary (Cluxton), who can you exclude the players with the most All stars from a list of best all star team. Nuts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 29, 2021, 09:05:23 AM
If you had to pick one Antrim player from the past 50 years who deserves an honourable mention in this conversation who would you go for?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 29, 2021, 09:05:23 AM
If you had to pick one Antrim player from the past 50 years who deserves an honourable mention in this conversation who would you go for?

50 years will be hard to pick, rather pick 1 from each decade  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2021, 09:16:36 AM
Declan Bunting, Micko Herron & Brendan McCombe new LD manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 29, 2021, 09:24:34 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 28, 2021, 01:31:18 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 28, 2021, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Ardoyne had Ross Carr last year did they not? Big names not unheard of.

True. From outside looks to have done a decent job
They won a Junior championship that they were favourites to win. Then lost all 5 of their intermediate championship games. Underwhelming tbh.

Would that be the general view. Favourites don't always win out

Kept there place in a competitive Div 2

Were in the stronger side of the IFC groupings. Most of the teams in there group were @ the top end of Div 2.

Were competitive in their first 2 games losing by a point in one of them

Who would you have expected them to beat in IFC group?

From the outside it looked like they had made small steps forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 29, 2021, 09:05:23 AM
If you had to pick one Antrim player from the past 50 years who deserves an honourable mention in this conversation who would you go for?

50 years will be hard to pick, rather pick 1 from each decade  ;)

No brainer. We have one all star and that's from within 50 years.

Yeah I would also have said Ardoyne are doing ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 29, 2021, 09:05:23 AM
If you had to pick one Antrim player from the past 50 years who deserves an honourable mention in this conversation who would you go for?

50 years will be hard to pick, rather pick 1 from each decade  ;)

No brainer. We have one all star and that's from within 50 years.

Yeah I would also have said Ardoyne are doing ok.

That would close the door on all other picks, and where is the fun in all that?

Wouldn't have seen Andy play but by all accounts he was a great player. Maybe Bannside can fill us in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2021, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 29, 2021, 09:05:23 AM
If you had to pick one Antrim player from the past 50 years who deserves an honourable mention in this conversation who would you go for?

50 years will be hard to pick, rather pick 1 from each decade  ;)

No brainer. We have one all star and that's from within 50 years.

Yeah I would also have said Ardoyne are doing ok.

That would close the door on all other picks, and where is the fun in all that?

Wouldn't have seen Andy play but by all accounts he was a great player. Maybe Bannside can fill us in

Mick Mc Cann did receive nomination and a 'replacement' award.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Yeah I was going to say him after that as he's not a bad footballer to be fair to him... Definitely the best I remember.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Yeah I was going to say him after that as he's not a bad footballer to be fair to him... Definitely the best I remember.

Was he the only nomination and 'replacement' awarded? Brilliant footballer btw

When was the last Antrim player to be picked for Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2021, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Yeah I was going to say him after that as he's not a bad footballer to be fair to him... Definitely the best I remember.

Was he the only nomination and 'replacement' awarded? Brilliant footballer btw

When was the last Antrim player to be picked for Ulster?


I'm guessing Mick McCann, Paddy C or Sean Kelly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:48:23 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2021, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Yeah I was going to say him after that as he's not a bad footballer to be fair to him... Definitely the best I remember.

Was he the only nomination and 'replacement' awarded? Brilliant footballer btw

When was the last Antrim player to be picked for Ulster?

I'll be honest, I can't remember a player on it, I know of one that was picked but didn't go


I'm guessing Mick McCann, Paddy C or Sean Kelly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 29, 2021, 12:39:00 PM
I might have a go at selecting my own best 15 from Antrim from the last 50 years.

But terms of reference would need to be cleared defined.

Should club form be taken into consideration at all....or should we stick rigidly to those who consistently performed at a high level in county colours.

Any thoughts....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 12:41:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 29, 2021, 12:39:00 PM
I might have a go at selecting my own best 15 from Antrim from the last 50 years.

But terms of reference would need to be cleared defined.

Should club form be taken into consideration at all....or should we stick rigidly to those who consistently performed at a high level in county colours.

Any thoughts....

Ya can't go with club form, team would be littered with Johnnies St Paul's Cargin and St Galls men ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:48:23 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2021, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Yeah I was going to say him after that as he's not a bad footballer to be fair to him... Definitely the best I remember.

Was he the only nomination and 'replacement' awarded? Brilliant footballer btw

When was the last Antrim player to be picked for Ulster?

I'll be honest, I can't remember a player on it, I know of one that was picked but didn't go


I'm guessing Mick McCann, Paddy C or Sean Kelly.
Mick Mc Cann did play in at least two Railway cups....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 29, 2021, 01:06:49 PM
Ok. Remit being those who consistently performed with distinction over a sustained number of years. Need to think about this carefully....anyone else fancy a pop... go ahead. if you can't go that far back stick to the period within your comfort zone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 01:25:18 PM
Sean Kelly best antrim club player ever but never had the same impact at county level IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 01:26:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 01:25:18 PM
Sean Kelly best antrim club player ever but never had the same impact at county level IMO.

Played out of position?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 01:36:32 PM
Yeah that would be my feeling mainly but I don't think he had enough physical presence to be as dominant at county either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 01:36:32 PM
Yeah that would be my feeling mainly but I don't think he had enough physical presence to be as dominant at county either.

I get your point, had he been playing his same role for the county he'd have been coming up against physically strong players, but he met that head on during a competitive ulster and all Ireland games where he came up against those same 'big' players

My memories of county football go back to the mid to late 80's, we were struggling to win a game in Ulster (continue to do so) we'd lots of players that put everything into it, then there was a period when were were crap if I'm being totally honest, didn't look interested and talk of phoning players up on a sat night asking them to start the next day (if thats to be believed)

Then we must have got our act together and some underage success brought about a different mindset. Obviously the 70's teams must have had a big Johnnies contingent.

can anyone throw up squads from those days and 80's teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 02:01:17 PM
Yeah it is possibly slightly harsh to say he maybe wasn't physical enough but at club level - and I saw him at sigerson too - he was fantastic.

87 we drew with tyrone who had just been in the AI final. We weren't too bad round then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2021, 05:02:46 PM
L Dhearg have appointed, Deaglain Bunting, Michael Herron and Brendan Mc Combe in the senior football management roles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2021, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2021, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Yeah I was going to say him after that as he's not a bad footballer to be fair to him... Definitely the best I remember.

Was he the only nomination and 'replacement' awarded? Brilliant footballer btw

When was the last Antrim player to be picked for Ulster?

I'm guessing Mick McCann, Paddy C or Sean Kelly.

Tomas Mc Cann and James Loughrey were in 2013/4 Railway cup team.......

Kevin Niblock...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2021, 09:48:50 PM

L Dhearg have appointed, Deaglain Bunting, Michael Herron and Brendan Mc Combe
What is the going salary for 3 man management team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 29, 2021, 10:04:56 PM
Loughrey was an allstar nominee when at Cork and for us for me was our best ever and most effective player in memory. 
Broke lines to make scores whereas Mick McCann, great as he is, ran to a line, stopped  and turned and handpassed. Tomas and Niblock were line breakers too but not to same extent as Loughrey

Sean Kelly undoubtedly our greatest ever club player, couldn't put a hand on him never mind tackle him.

Terry O Neill and most of the Galls team were outrageously good club (and county to be fair) plsyers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 30, 2021, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2021, 10:04:56 PM
Loughrey was an allstar nominee when at Cork and for us for me was our best ever and most effective player in memory. 
Broke lines to make scores whereas Mick McCann, great as he is, ran to a line, stopped  and turned and handpassed. Tomas and Niblock were line breakers too but not to same extent as Loughrey

Sean Kelly undoubtedly our greatest ever club player, couldn't put a hand on him never mind tackle him.

Terry O Neill and most of the Galls team were outrageously good club (and county to be fair) plsyers

100% gold. Stephen Mulvenna was a super player, Alex McQuillan, Paul McErleans performance against Kerry in the league payoff was one of the best displays ever by an antrim player on the big stage, Kevin Madden, Michael Johnston
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 30, 2021, 01:19:28 PM
Mick herron called it a day after his injury last year? Still looked as fit as ever year before.

Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2021, 09:48:50 PM

L Dhearg have appointed, Deaglain Bunting, Michael Herron and Brendan Mc Combe
What is the going salary for 3 man management team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 30, 2021, 01:26:57 PM
Looks as if Justin Crozier has also called time on his illustrious county career. Thoroughly deserving of a big shout out for the many years of dedication and service he gave to the Saffron cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 30, 2021, 01:27:13 PM
Id go for Loughrey as well. Wouldnt have looked out of place in any county team.

In regards to club players it has to be sean kelly. Although i think kevin niblock was my favourite player on that galls team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2021, 01:43:38 PM
How many players from Antrim's only winning senior grade All winning team (the under 21's)  would get on that list? I know some didn't get the chance to play senior, as they had other things going on  ;). But was that a lost opportunity?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tiempo on November 30, 2021, 01:58:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2021, 01:43:38 PM
How many players from Antrim's only winning senior grade All winning team (the under 21's)  would get on that list? I know some didn't get the chance to play senior, as they had other things going on  ;). But was that a lost opportunity?

Crimes against human progress, several orders of magnitude bigger than a lost opportunity, the British war machine pulled the guts out of Antrim GAA for decades, would be fantastic to see some tangible output from Gaelfest and an improved showing at provincial and national level, would be a lot more heartwarming than the Dublin juggernaut continue in on its mission to blitzkrieg everyone into submission. As we know the funding of the Dubs is a scandal, other counties need to get together and stand up against it, Antrim should have been a much bigger priority for HQ in 2003 than the Dubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 30, 2021, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 30, 2021, 01:26:57 PM
Looks as if Justin Crozier has also called time on his illustrious county career. Thoroughly deserving of a big shout out for the many years of dedication and service he gave to the Saffron cause.


Good shout, Justy been a great servant to the county, surprised tbh he didnt get more game time last season, only a couple of minutes here and there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 30, 2021, 02:56:43 PM
Enda preferred James Laverty at six from the get go and he put some good performances to maintain the jersey.

Justy wouldn't be needing treated like that at his stage, he has declined the invitation to rejoin the squad this year. I'd say both Cargin and Antrim haven't had a more dependable centre half back for a long time. Owes the county nothing and his name will be rightly be up for consideration as one of the best to have played that position for the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2021, 02:57:57 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 30, 2021, 01:27:13 PM
Id go for Loughrey as well. Wouldnt have looked out of place in any county team.

In regards to club players it has to be sean kelly. Although i think kevin niblock was my favourite player on that galls team.

In thinking about it Loughrey actually is a great shout. He had a bit of dynamism about him that we lacked. I always liked Tony Scullion and how he went at it - not as gifted perhaps but a great servant none the less.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 30, 2021, 03:01:50 PM
As for James Loughrey - probably the best footballer Antrim has produced in decades. Don't think many will dispute that.

Covered more ground than anyone on the pitch - our Jack Mc Caffrey - and was the complete team player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 30, 2021, 03:17:15 PM
CJ probably should have been the best we have seen but unfortunately just didnt work out at county level on a consistent basis. Supremely talented footballer, without doubt the best score taker ive seen in antrim club football, could split the posts from any angle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 30, 2021, 09:51:08 PM
Some worthy mentions here, but a man who hasn't got named as yet is the great Kevin Brady, wonderful player and played 10-15 years in the Saffron jersey also, he hadn't too many bad games either in that time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 30, 2021, 09:54:37 PM
Kevin Brady would definitely make my top 15 of the last 40 years. Class act for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 30, 2021, 10:12:56 PM
Anto Finnegan, Martin Mulholland, Kevin Brady, kevin Madden would all make my 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2021, 07:36:11 AM
All four would make my team too Paddy John.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 08:36:42 AM
Is your Under 20 final on this weekend MR2, cannot see any details on the County Website about venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 01, 2021, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 08:36:42 AM
Is your Under 20 final on this weekend MR2, cannot see any details on the County Website about venue?
Same Balls up as per usual
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2021, 09:00:54 AM
Is there not schools hurling on friday that balls it up a bit too if there's crossover of players? Not even sure who's in the schools hurling but could impact both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:11:43 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 01, 2021, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 08:36:42 AM
Is your Under 20 final on this weekend MR2, cannot see any details on the County Website about venue?
Same Balls up as per usual
Which is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2021, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 01, 2021, 07:36:11 AM
All four would make my team too Paddy John.

Great minds think alike!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Guys the game would have went ahead last week but Glenravel were involved with the Ulster hurling, why are people annoyed? Not like you'll be at it. The game will be played when it suits both teams I'd imagine...

It's a busy time of the year with schools and colleges. Getting pitches can be difficult also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 09:31:25 AM
U20s, Farcical end to a farcical competition. Hopefully lessons learned for 2022.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 01, 2021, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Guys the game would have went ahead last week but Glenravel were involved with the Ulster hurling, why are people annoyed? Not like you'll be at it. The game will be played when it suits both teams I'd imagine...

It's a busy time of the year with schools and colleges. Getting pitches can be difficult also.

Shouldn't have been going ahead full stop. Farce of a competition this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Guys the game would have went ahead last week but Glenravel were involved with the Ulster hurling, why are people annoyed? Not like you'll be at it. The game will be played when it suits both teams I'd imagine...

It's a busy time of the year with schools and colleges. Getting pitches can be difficult also.

Very presumptions and arrogant of you MR2 to make such a statement. I was hoping if it were in say PG1 I would take in a bit of it then head over for the PG1 game, however it appears you have now banned any such plans
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest

Think clubs could well take a close look at the 'sanction' or in other words, borrow a player rule.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Guys the game would have went ahead last week but Glenravel were involved with the Ulster hurling, why are people annoyed? Not like you'll be at it. The game will be played when it suits both teams I'd imagine...

It's a busy time of the year with schools and colleges. Getting pitches can be difficult also.

Very presumptions and arrogant of you MR2 to make such a statement. I was hoping if it were in say PG1 I would take in a bit of it then head over for the PG1 game, however it appears you have now banned any such plans

nope just the reality. I've been at these games as a ref and supporter, very underwhelming in the amount of people at it, so spare me the, if its at my pitch I'll take a look.

But hey, if its at PG1 come and have a chat about next years predictions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 01, 2021, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest

sarsfields have a motion that u20 be played before adult leagues start , LD have a motion its played after adult leagues finish !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 01, 2021, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest

sarsfields have a motion that u20 be played before adult leagues start , LD have a motion its played after adult leagues finish !
Sarsfields motion is that the U20 (or whatever age above U17) league takes place before the adult leagues start, and that the U20 Champ takes place after the adult champ finished. Lamh dhearg want U20 changed to U19 completely and bizarrely made into 13 aside.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 01, 2021, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest

sarsfields have a motion that u20 be played before adult leagues start , LD have a motion its played after adult leagues finish !
Sarsfields motion is that the U20 (or whatever age above U17) league takes place before the adult leagues start, and that the U20 Champ takes place after the adult champ finished. Lamh dhearg want U20 changed to U19 completely and bizarrely made into 13 aside.

I think, personally that is, that under19 and 13 aside will reduce the 'sanctioned' players that CB has brought up, which I'm not in favour off either tbh and allow more teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Guys the game would have went ahead last week but Glenravel were involved with the Ulster hurling, why are people annoyed? Not like you'll be at it. The game will be played when it suits both teams I'd imagine...

It's a busy time of the year with schools and colleges. Getting pitches can be difficult also.

Very presumptions and arrogant of you MR2 to make such a statement. I was hoping if it were in say PG1 I would take in a bit of it then head over for the PG1 game, however it appears you have now banned any such plans

nope just the reality. I've been at these games as a ref and supporter, very underwhelming in the amount of people at it, so spare me the, if its at my pitch I'll take a look.

But hey, if its at PG1 come and have a chat about next years predictions

You are out of order her MR2, regardless of what capacity you attend a game you are not the gate holder of who  is there and when

PG1 is not my local pitch, however that is irrelevant

I repeat presumptuous and arrogant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.

Wow, so if Cargin won this farce it wouldn't be celebrated? I'll be honest as a club it would be grand, but I'll not lose any sleep if we don't.

Boy you're still sore
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.

Wow, so if Cargin won this farce it wouldn't be celebrated? I'll be honest as a club it would be grand, but I'll not lose any sleep if we don't.

Boy you're still sore
Still sore? What about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.

Wow, so if Cargin won this farce it wouldn't be celebrated? I'll be honest as a club it would be grand, but I'll not lose any sleep if we don't.

Boy you're still sore
Still sore? What about?

That our lads put your lads out of the under 20 farce competition?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:21:05 AM
Guys the game would have went ahead last week but Glenravel were involved with the Ulster hurling, why are people annoyed? Not like you'll be at it. The game will be played when it suits both teams I'd imagine...

It's a busy time of the year with schools and colleges. Getting pitches can be difficult also.

Very presumptions and arrogant of you MR2 to make such a statement. I was hoping if it were in say PG1 I would take in a bit of it then head over for the PG1 game, however it appears you have now banned any such plans

nope just the reality. I've been at these games as a ref and supporter, very underwhelming in the amount of people at it, so spare me the, if its at my pitch I'll take a look.

But hey, if its at PG1 come and have a chat about next years predictions

You are out of order her MR2, regardless of what capacity you attend a game you are not the gate holder of who  is there and when

PG1 is not my local pitch, however that is irrelevant

I repeat presumptuous and arrogant

I'll also repeat, these games outside of the clubs involved are not supported by many outsiders, and in my experience that's the case
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.

Wow, so if Cargin won this farce it wouldn't be celebrated? I'll be honest as a club it would be grand, but I'll not lose any sleep if we don't.

Boy you're still sore
Still sore? What about?

That our lads put your lads out of the under 20 farce competition?
Aye that's it. You got me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.

Wow, so if Cargin won this farce it wouldn't be celebrated? I'll be honest as a club it would be grand, but I'll not lose any sleep if we don't.

Boy you're still sore
Still sore? What about?

That our lads put your lads out of the under 20 farce competition?
Aye that's it. You got me

So I'll ask again, would your club celebrate a win at this level or not even turn up at the farce?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest
We can gurn all we want, same way as you can celebrate winning a farce of a competition if you want... If you win it that is.

Wow, so if Cargin won this farce it wouldn't be celebrated? I'll be honest as a club it would be grand, but I'll not lose any sleep if we don't.

Boy you're still sore
Still sore? What about?

That our lads put your lads out of the under 20 farce competition?
Aye that's it. You got me

So I'll ask again, would your club celebrate a win at this level or not even turn up at the farce?
How is that even relevant to my point about the competition being a farce? I said you can choose to celebrate winning it if you wish, as could we if we won it. Competitions a farce, everyone in Antrim bar yourself realises it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:31:56 AM
Where did I say it's fine and we shouldn't change it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 01, 2021, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest

sarsfields have a motion that u20 be played before adult leagues start , LD have a motion its played after adult leagues finish !
Sarsfields motion is that the U20 (or whatever age above U17) league takes place before the adult leagues start, and that the U20 Champ takes place after the adult champ finished. Lamh dhearg want U20 changed to U19 completely and bizarrely made into 13 aside.

I think, personally that is, that under19 and 13 aside will reduce the 'sanctioned' players that CB has brought up, which I'm not in favour off either tbh and allow more teams

Be sure that a big club, with a huge list of achievements do not make use of the sanction rule on a grand scale.

Surely that would be akin to 'team building on a bus'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 10:51:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 01, 2021, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 01, 2021, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
I'm sure the teams that put the effort into it don't feel its farcical

As you say hopefully those within their clubs put forward a motion at their AGM's (which are soon) that the competition gets a better date and format next time. No point gurning on here about it to be honest

sarsfields have a motion that u20 be played before adult leagues start , LD have a motion its played after adult leagues finish !
Sarsfields motion is that the U20 (or whatever age above U17) league takes place before the adult leagues start, and that the U20 Champ takes place after the adult champ finished. Lamh dhearg want U20 changed to U19 completely and bizarrely made into 13 aside.

I think, personally that is, that under19 and 13 aside will reduce the 'sanctioned' players that CB has brought up, which I'm not in favour off either tbh and allow more teams

Be sure that a big club, with a huge list of achievements do not make use of the sanction rule on a grand scale.

Surely that would be akin to 'team building on a bus'.

I've said I'm not in favour of the sanction rule, what more can I say?

I've been in the trenches, its hard work, and back in my day I remember teams did struggle, the age rule has made it even harder, I'm sort of in the camp, if you're good enough you're old enough, again my own view and not a widely held view point by others.

If teams at that level or as a whole are finding that fielding 15 players plus subs is difficult and because of that, that team are sanctioning players out then what's the alternative? Lose more players or hope they stay on with that club until they can field properly?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 01, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Surely the main issue with "borrowing a player" lies with the club inheriting said player? Imagine playing the whole way up through the youth only to be dropped to the bench because the club has brought in a player to play for a championship. Brutal stuff.

Put it back to u21s. Play it after all mens championships have completed. Give the teams competing in ulster an extra week if needs be. Have it straight knock out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 01, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Surely the main issue with "borrowing a player" lies with the club inheriting said player? Imagine playing the whole way up through the youth only to be dropped to the bench because the club has brought in a player to play for a championship. Brutal stuff.

Put it back to u21s. Play it after all mens championships have completed. Give the teams competing in ulster an extra week if needs be. Have it straight knock out.

It lies solely with the club being unable to field in that age group (IMO), you can't blame a club for taking on another player, should that club just say, jog on lad?

The motions for dropping it to 13 aside could enable a club to participate, competitively, at an age group or grade they would not have in the past.

Getting the date right in the calendar is the problem. Its also not an established league level, its always been a championship only

If you are in the business of not encouraging kids to play our games then what's the best solution?

We've had and currently do have amalgamations in all boards, South, southwest and North Antrim, its about finding the right one that only encourages.the player to stay until senior, then he can move back to his own club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 01, 2021, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 01, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Surely the main issue with "borrowing a player" lies with the club inheriting said player? Imagine playing the whole way up through the youth only to be dropped to the bench because the club has brought in a player to play for a championship. Brutal stuff.

Put it back to u21s. Play it after all mens championships have completed. Give the teams competing in ulster an extra week if needs be. Have it straight knock out.
One of the reasons it changed to an initial league format a few years back was to try and keep players who hadn't progressed or weren't getting into senior or reserve teams involved. Attempt to address dropout. With the move to U17 and back to U21 knockout it would be a disaster for dropout. U20/U21 has historically always been the poor relation and has been tried in various windows in the Callander. It has always been a bit of a mixed bag compromise. .
It can't just be moved in isolation without consideration for all other comoetitions
Inter County U17 & U20
Universuty
Schools
Club U17, Reserve & Senior.
Never mind Dual clubs who have above*2

It worked reasonably well a few years back with U18 as normal and U21 at the tail end of the season in an initial league basis.

Kept guys interested a bit longer and provided a bit of a bridge to senior.

Not perfect but much better

U17 has just been disastrous all around


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 01, 2021, 02:47:14 PM
I was just solely talking about the u20 chsip. It has been a complete shambles with majority of games not being played. I think a u20 league could be great if done properly, would stop players dropping away and would get them ready for senior. Would be very hard to fit it in the calender though. But i agree the main issue is u17, even if your the best minor in the county, when you step up to senior its a whole different ball game. The lads are just too young and many aren't physically developed to play mens football. It has to be changed back to minor, that extra year could make all the difference.

In reply to MR2, i understand what you are saying, maybe im just being ignorant because my club is fortunate enough to field teams at all youth levels. Personally speaking, i wouldnt be a fan if my club brought in a player to replace on of our own. But i do agree that all players should have the chance to compete.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Physically the difference from under 17 to senior is scary, especially if you are going into a senior football team, slightly different for hurling as skill and speed levels make a huge difference.

Who won the B final played on Saturday last? Calm down, maybe you were at it and can fill us in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 01, 2021, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 01, 2021, 02:47:14 PM
I was just solely talking about the u20 chsip. It has been a complete shambles with majority of games not being played. I think a u20 league could be great if done properly, would stop players dropping away and would get them ready for senior. Would be very hard to fit it in the calender though. But i agree the main issue is u17, even if your the best minor in the county, when you step up to senior its a whole different ball game. The lads are just too young and many aren't physically developed to play mens football. It has to be changed back to minor, that extra year could make all the difference.

In reply to MR2, i understand what you are saying, maybe im just being ignorant because my club is fortunate enough to field teams at all youth levels. Personally speaking, i wouldnt be a fan if my club brought in a player to replace on of our own. But i do agree that all players should have the chance to compete.

Why did the county schedule u20 games the same day and time that we had a senior championship match? The u20s was a shambles in a lot of counties btw! Not just Antrim! Not that it would be much better but out of interest, why is it not U17s and then u19s? The jump from 17s to seniors is massive. Most of the good players from that age group wouldn't be strong enough for B football never mind senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 01, 2021, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: geezer on November 30, 2021, 01:19:28 PM
Mick herron called it a day after his injury last year? Still looked as fit as ever year before.

Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2021, 09:48:50 PM

L Dhearg have appointed, Deaglain Bunting, Michael Herron and Brendan Mc Combe
What is the going salary for 3 man management team
Heron super player and a big loss for LD on the pitch no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Physically the difference from under 17 to senior is scary, especially if you are going into a senior football team, slightly different for hurling as skill and speed levels make a huge difference.

Who won the B final played on Saturday last? Calm down, maybe you were at it and can fill us in?

Not played.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 01, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
On a separate note how are the Creggan boys recovering from the cases in the camp? Have they been able to train together?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Physically the difference from under 17 to senior is scary, especially if you are going into a senior football team, slightly different for hurling as skill and speed levels make a huge difference.

Who won the B final played on Saturday last? Calm down, maybe you were at it and can fill us in?

Not played.....

I'm surprised you were not due to duke down to your own pitch to 'report' on it! Called off due to the pitch by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Physically the difference from under 17 to senior is scary, especially if you are going into a senior football team, slightly different for hurling as skill and speed levels make a huge difference.

Who won the B final played on Saturday last? Calm down, maybe you were at it and can fill us in?

Not played.....

I'm surprised you were not due to duke down to your own pitch to 'report' on it! Called off due to the pitch by all accounts

I was and it was.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 10:11:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 01, 2021, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 01, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2021, 02:55:30 PM
Physically the difference from under 17 to senior is scary, especially if you are going into a senior football team, slightly different for hurling as skill and speed levels make a huge difference.

Who won the B final played on Saturday last? Calm down, maybe you were at it and can fill us in?

Not played.....

I'm surprised you were not due to duke down to your own pitch to 'report' on it! Called off due to the pitch by all accounts

I was and it was.....
Apologies CB my anger was directed at the wrong man there

@MR2 I was awaiting your permission to attend alas it wasn't forthcoming however I will assume that was due to you knowing it was cancelled as opposed to denying permission
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 01, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
On a separate note how are the Creggan boys recovering from the cases in the camp? Have they been able to train together?


They been training away, maybe getting the excuses in early?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 01, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
On a separate note how are the Creggan boys recovering from the cases in the camp? Have they been able to train together?


They been training away, maybe getting the excuses in early?

Excuses? Is that based on how we normally do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 02, 2021, 11:01:08 AM
Any update if this u20 match is going ahead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2021, 11:14:19 AM
I think it is . I saw something on facebook that the venue is TBD but the game is on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 02, 2021, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2021, 11:14:19 AM
I think it is . I saw something on facebook that the venue is TBD but the game is on.

Probably Corrigan 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 02, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
Davitts Saturday at 2pm on Con Magees facebook I see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 02, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
Davitts Saturday at 2pm on Con Magees facebook I see

Should be rammed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 02, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.

Are the Casement flood lights still up or were they taken down?

They were seriously impressive in their height and brightness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 02, 2021, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 02, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.

Are the Casement flood lights still up or were they taken down?

They were seriously impressive in their height and brightness.

Probably being used in the social club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 02, 2021, 11:54:42 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 02, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.

Are the Casement flood lights still up or were they taken down?

They were seriously impressive in their height and brightness.
Lights still there, but basically ornaments as all electric cables that powered them were dug up and sold for scrap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 02, 2021, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 02, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
Davitts Saturday at 2pm on Con Magees facebook I see

Should be rammed
Do you not think your supporters will go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 01, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
On a separate note how are the Creggan boys recovering from the cases in the camp? Have they been able to train together?


They been training away, maybe getting the excuses in early?

Excuses? Is that based on how we normally do?

Normally poor bar when St galls were in it, although Antrim teams usually at a disadvantage in regards to refs in ulster, ulster standard refs let things go and let the tackles fly in, whereas internally its more akin to playing basketball in some Antrim championship games, seems like if you play a physical game or are infact stronger and fitter than your opposition you get penalised for that, I could be wrong but I guess that's only my opinion 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 01, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
On a separate note how are the Creggan boys recovering from the cases in the camp? Have they been able to train together?


They been training away, maybe getting the excuses in early?

Excuses? Is that based on how we normally do?

Normally poor bar when St galls were in it, although Antrim teams usually at a disadvantage in regards to refs in ulster, ulster standard refs let things go and let the tackles fly in, whereas internally its more akin to playing basketball in some Antrim championship games, seems like if you play a physical game or are infact stronger and fitter than your opposition you get penalised for that, I could be wrong but I guess that's only my opinion 😉

MR2 let's the play go!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on December 02, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
St.Galls of that era were exceptional. 

I hope I am wrong but I suspect it could be a wee while before we see the like again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 02, 2021, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 02, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
Davitts Saturday at 2pm on Con Magees facebook I see

Should be rammed
Do you not think your supporters will go?

I'd say with the fact that Glenravel having had a brilliant year to date will bring a crowd and with it being in Belfast you'll get ones that couldn't be arsed heading up the country
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 02, 2021, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 02, 2021, 11:54:42 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 02, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
McKenna cup got the go ahead then, all matches Tuesday and Fridays, our home games possibly played under the new lights at Dunsilly, saw them on the other evening on the way home, looked impressive.

Are the Casement flood lights still up or were they taken down?

They were seriously impressive in their height and brightness.
Lights still there, but basically ornaments as all electric cables that powered them were dug up and sold for scrap

Do I need to speak to Frankie Quinn or Brian McEvoy about "procuring" them?

They'd be the dogs danglies for hurling under with those masts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 03:43:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 02, 2021, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 02, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
Davitts Saturday at 2pm on Con Magees facebook I see

Should be rammed
Do you not think your supporters will go?

I'd say with the fact that Glenravel having had a brilliant year to date will bring a crowd and with it being in Belfast you'll get ones that couldn't be arsed heading up the country

Cant see Glenravel troubling a very good st galls team on Saturday, Mcaffrey,wilson,mcgirr, donnelly all excellent and mcormick in nets very good. The Hynds brothers for glenravel tough players but overall glenravel not as strong at galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
Jeez,  Galls really have a strong panel.....three of the above did not play against Cargin....and the beat a strong Toome outfit by 10 points....

No Wilson, Mc Girr, or Mc Cormick in nets....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
Jeez,  Galls really have a strong panel.....three of the above did not play against Cargin....and the beat a strong Toome outfit by 10 points....

From the exceptional St Galls side that won the All-ireland club, how many of them were proper St Galls men?

No Wilson, Mc Girr, or Mc Cormick in nets....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2021, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
Jeez,  Galls really have a strong panel.....three of the above did not play against Cargin....and the beat a strong Toome outfit by 10 points....

From the exceptional St Galls side that won the All-ireland club, how many of them were proper St Galls men?

No Wilson, Mc Girr, or Mc Cormick in nets....

I wonder how many from all clubs in Antrim are 'proper' club men, we should take all those titles away, terrible
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
Jeez,  Galls really have a strong panel.....three of the above did not play against Cargin....and the beat a strong Toome outfit by 10 points....

No Wilson, Mc Girr, or Mc Cormick in nets....

Yous got off lightly that day then CB, Conal mcgirr is Garys son, louis mccormick was senior keeper for galls last season when kerr was out injured and Dulatach wilson is a fantastic dual player for galls, wasnt at you game but if those 3 didnt play and yous were beat by 10 st galls were under strength.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
Jeez,  Galls really have a strong panel.....three of the above did not play against Cargin....and the beat a strong Toome outfit by 10 points....

No Wilson, Mc Girr, or Mc Cormick in nets....

Yous got off lightly that day then CB, Conal mcgirr is Garys son, louis mccormick was senior keeper for galls last season when kerr was out injured and Dulatach wilson is a fantastic dual player for galls, wasnt at you game but if those 3 didnt play and yous were beat by 10 st galls were under strength.

Certainly looks the case and a much I.proved Galls from the side which lost out to Cargin in the 2019 minor championship semi.
In that one Niall Burns claimed a majority of their scores.

Stranger still is the reason  why only a few from that u20 side made the Senior panel v Cargin.

Evidence produced thus far underlines huge potential up at Milltown on the senior trail is certainly imminent.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 06:46:50 PM
Some craic, I find it more bizarre the fascination with bigging up Naomh Gall!

Anyway, based on the predictions on here we should win by a landslide which is great, but seeing as it's a farce of a competition it won't really matter.

Though predictions don't normally go as they should and St Mary's Aghagallon proved that all year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 07:12:31 PM
I'm lost here. Can someone summarise the St. Galls u20 thing that is constantly brought up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 07:12:31 PM
I'm lost here. Can someone summarise the St. Galls u20 thing that is constantly brought up?
Country bumpkin is raging they beat Cargin.

And such is evident.......?

Can make comment on quality when I see it...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....

Yeah, it's embarrassing the trophy count.

Hopefully Creggan can change the usual attempts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 08:26:42 PM
Favourite sweets lad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM

Sorry to shatter the
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
As Jim says, it keeps being brought up....by you.

Yet, you don't seem to have the same obsession with Glenravel's improvement.

Hate to shatter the illusion, but that is certainly not the real Jim Stynes....think it is somebody else....😎
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 09:08:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM

Sorry to shatter the
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
As Jim says, it keeps being brought up....by you.

Yet, you don't seem to have the same obsession with Glenravel's improvement.

Hate to shatter the illusion, but that is certainly not the real Jim Stynes....think it is somebody else....😎

I've met him, he's the real deal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 09:50:38 PM
 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0&feature=emb_title (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0&feature=emb_title)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 09:50:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0&feature=emb_title (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0&feature=emb_title)

That ain't Jim Stynes....sure he had an Ozzie accent....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
As Jim says, it keeps being brought up....by you.

Yet, you don't seem to have the same obsession with Glenravel's improvement.

So what clubs up round that part would filter into that team? Ballycastle?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 10:12:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 02, 2021, 09:50:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0&feature=emb_title (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OI9H6Zrv0&feature=emb_title)

That ain't Jim Stynes....sure he had an Ozzie accent....

Strewth 😲
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:24:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
As Jim says, it keeps being brought up....by you.

Yet, you don't seem to have the same obsession with Glenravel's improvement.

So what clubs up round that part would filter into that team? Ballycastle?

Neil McManus played football for Glenravel , as do many cdall , glenariffe, and cushendun lads. Very few continue into adult football but it fairly strengthens con Magee at juvenile
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 02, 2021, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:24:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
As Jim says, it keeps being brought up....by you.

Yet, you don't seem to have the same obsession with Glenravel's improvement.

So what clubs up round that part would filter into that team? Ballycastle?

Neil McManus played football for Glenravel , as do many cdall , glenariffe, and cushendun lads. Very few continue into adult football but it fairly strengthens con Magee at juvenile

Is u20 considered juvenile or adult?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:28:10 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:24:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2021, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 02, 2021, 07:47:34 PM
Yep....seething!

Doubt it.....Jeez Cargin couldn't beat a poor Rossa team
And South Antrim really need a trophy.....
As Jim says, it keeps being brought up....by you.

Yet, you don't seem to have the same obsession with Glenravel's improvement.

So what clubs up round that part would filter into that team? Ballycastle?

Neil McManus played football for Glenravel , as do many cdall , glenariffe, and cushendun lads. Very few continue into adult football but it fairly strengthens con Magee at juvenile

Aye I knew Neil did at juvenile wasn't sure that those clubs, loughgiel glenariffe Cushendun and Carey were still feeding them, and that's great. Promotion is great
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 02, 2021, 10:51:54 PM
Don't think there is any issue with Glenravel here, they are providing football for players from hurling only clubs, no issue surely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.

Some accusations there, either you have players from other clubs or you don't. If they don't end up at one club they'll go to another if their own club doesn't field. But yeah I suppose to keep the haters happy it's better to lose those lads to soccer or the pub
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.

Some accusations there, either you have players from other clubs or you don't. If they don't end up at one club they'll go to another if their own club doesn't field. But yeah I suppose to keep the haters happy it's better to lose those lads to soccer or the pub

I don't have any players from any other clubs and no accusations at all. 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:14:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.

Some accusations there, either you have players from other clubs or you don't. If they don't end up at one club they'll go to another if their own club doesn't field. But yeah I suppose to keep the haters happy it's better to lose those lads to soccer or the pub

I don't have any players from any other clubs and no accusations at all. 👍

I see what you did there, deflection  ;D

The game on Saturday hopefully after all the hype should be good, Glenravel beat the team I thought would be favs, we beat both teams who played two minor finals.

Venue and officials spot on too. Davitts have come a long way and have done a great  job of the place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 02, 2021, 11:24:30 PM
Big games for Creggan and TNN at the weekend.  Would be nice to see two wins.  Can't see why not, both well capable of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:14:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.

Some accusations there, either you have players from other clubs or you don't. If they don't end up at one club they'll go to another if their own club doesn't field. But yeah I suppose to keep the haters happy it's better to lose those lads to soccer or the pub

I don't have any players from any other clubs and no accusations at all. 👍

I see what you did there, deflection  ;D

The game on Saturday hopefully after all the hype should be good, Glenravel beat the team I thought would be favs, we beat both teams who played two minor finals.

Venue and officials spot on too. Davitts have come a long way and have done a great  job of the place

Deflect from what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:34:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:14:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.

Some accusations there, either you have players from other clubs or you don't. If they don't end up at one club they'll go to another if their own club doesn't field. But yeah I suppose to keep the haters happy it's better to lose those lads to soccer or the pub

I don't have any players from any other clubs and no accusations at all. 👍

I see what you did there, deflection  ;D

The game on Saturday hopefully after all the hype should be good, Glenravel beat the team I thought would be favs, we beat both teams who played two minor finals.

Venue and officials spot on too. Davitts have come a long way and have done a great  job of the place

Deflect from what?

You mentioned dodgy or under hand dealings, please explain more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:53:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:34:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 11:14:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2021, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Shamrocks, Cushendall & Oisíns are the only clubs that I ever remember feeding Glenravel. Players came to them though, a bus wasn't sent round to pick them up or dodgy under hand dealings.

Some accusations there, either you have players from other clubs or you don't. If they don't end up at one club they'll go to another if their own club doesn't field. But yeah I suppose to keep the haters happy it's better to lose those lads to soccer or the pub

I don't have any players from any other clubs and no accusations at all. 👍

I see what you did there, deflection  ;D

The game on Saturday hopefully after all the hype should be good, Glenravel beat the team I thought would be favs, we beat both teams who played two minor finals.

Venue and officials spot on too. Davitts have come a long way and have done a great  job of the place

Deflect from what?

You mentioned dodgy or under hand dealings, please explain more

Very touchy there pal, merely an observation there's been all sorts going on as years with dodgy stuff in the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2021, 12:03:49 AM
Not touchy,  but accusations of dodgy underhand dealings being thrown about would need to be addressed surely?

If you were trying to be funny or sarcastic I could get that.

There's not too many a club without a player or manager from outside, how they've acquired them well that's up for debate. How they achieve things because of it well that's another story.

As I've said, players better playing somewhere than not at all, in my view

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 03, 2021, 08:56:17 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on November 27, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
I heard a name today for the Rasharkin football job and by god if its true it would put many a county to shame. Must be big bucks there.

Any update on this major signing RC? I heard it was your own club that had GOD lined lined up to come in with McKeever!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 03, 2021, 10:02:09 AM
Glenravel have only one so called 'outsider' playing on sunday, but have only a panel of 17 lads from what I seen at the creggan match. but you wouldn't know if they can put it up to a strong st.galls team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 03, 2021, 10:13:34 AM
Good luck to Creggan and TNN over the weekend, hopefully both can progress to the semis.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 03, 2021, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 03, 2021, 10:13:34 AM
Good luck to Creggan and TNN over the weekend, hopefully both can progress to the semis.

Good shout Geezer. I know nothing at all about either teams opponents but wish them both well. TNN are as good Intermediate champions in Antrim as ive seen in a long time, will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 03, 2021, 01:44:22 PM
Well I had heard a multiple All Ireland winner with Tyrone who is mates with prominent club member was a shoe in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 04, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 03, 2021, 10:02:09 AM
Glenravel have only one so called 'outsider' playing on sunday, but have only a panel of 17 lads from what I seen at the creggan match. but you wouldn't know if they can put it up to a strong st.galls team
Seen both teams play, Can see a Glenravel win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 11:26:20 AM
The most talked about u20 game in history
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 04, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 03, 2021, 10:02:09 AM
Glenravel have only one so called 'outsider' playing on sunday, but have only a panel of 17 lads from what I seen at the creggan match. but you wouldn't know if they can put it up to a strong st.galls team
Seen both teams play, Can see a Glenravel win

So can I, Glenravel beat a very strong Tir na Og team, who of all teams I felt were capable of winning.

Slippery surface, poor handling, mistakes all over the shop today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
Good win for Glenravel, we missed too many chances to draw level or go ahead, the penalty the difference. Looks like intermediate for our seniors next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
Went for a look. St galls lacking in testicular fortitude??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
Went for a look. St galls lacking in testicular fortitude??
Id would say lacking a decent free taker, or someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck.

Didn't see anyone hiding from tackles if that's what you mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 04, 2021, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
Went for a look. St galls lacking in testicular fortitude??

You should be v skilled at this stage in spotting that particular quality as your own club has lacked that in the last three semifinals 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 04:57:27 PM
Bit harsh on a crowd of youngsters too.

Great win for randalstown as well in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 04:57:27 PM
Bit harsh on a crowd of youngsters too.

Great win for randalstown as well in ulster.

Didn't realise they were playing, great result indeed. Hopefully tomorrow Creggan can follow up in that also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 04, 2021, 05:03:48 PM
Full sweep for SW teams then! Well done to Con Magees, that's a great step on your road back to the top, and Randalstown claim a fairly rare win for Antrim clubs in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 05:10:13 PM
Six point win for randalstown too. Under 20 looked like a tight one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 05:10:13 PM
Six point win for randalstown too. Under 20 looked like a tight one.

We'd loads of possession in second half just couldn't convert. Great to see a club like Glenravel come through. Not sure they are SW though ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 06:00:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 05:10:13 PM
Six point win for randalstown too. Under 20 looked like a tight one.

We'd loads of possession in second half just couldn't convert. Great to see a club like Glenravel come through. Not sure they are SW though ;D

All that matters is non city for the purposes of stirring shit lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 04, 2021, 06:06:55 PM
Great Win for randalstown and con magees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 04, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
Good win for Glenravel, we missed too many chances to draw level or go ahead, the penalty the difference. Looks like intermediate for our seniors next year.
Not next year but probably in 2-3 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 04, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
Good win for Glenravel, we missed too many chances to draw level or go ahead, the penalty the difference. Looks like intermediate for our seniors next year.
Not next year but probably in 2-3 years

Yeah, we've been relegated before. Probably concentrate on scor for a while. Though having been relegated we came back won some Ulsters and had some Croke park days out  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 04, 2021, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 04, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
Good win for Glenravel, we missed too many chances to draw level or go ahead, the penalty the difference. Looks like intermediate for our seniors next year.
Not next year but probably in 2-3 years

Yeah, we've been relegated before. Probably concentrate on scor for a while. Though having been relegated we came back won some Ulsters and had some Croke park days out  ;)
Yes, very well done for that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on December 04, 2021, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 03:55:13 PM
That I couldn't argue with!!
Went for a look. St galls lacking in testicular fortitude??

You should be v skilled at this stage in spotting that particular quality as your own club has lacked that in the last three semifinals 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Who managed Glenravel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:19:20 PM
Good win for glenravel in the token u20 tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:22:18 PM
Apparently the ref wore his Cargin half zip while taking on the role of ref in the final. Disgrace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 04, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:22:18 PM
Apparently the ref wore his Cargin half zip while taking on the role of ref in the final. Disgrace

I hear he may as well have worn a Glenravel jersey the penalty he gave!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:31:38 PM
The final thst never should have taken place! Token trophy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Who managed Glenravel?

3 local lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 09:45:21 PM
Lads I had no dog in the race. Glenravel won cos they had more heart, they wanted to win more, end of story. Fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2021, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Who managed Glenravel?

3 local lads.
seriously ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 09:45:21 PM
Lads I had no dog in the race. Glenravel won cos they had more heart, they wanted to win more, end of story. Fair play

No, you questioned the fortitude of the Galls lads. So if you'd no dog in this race, that comment was a bit cheap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2021, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Who managed Glenravel?

3 local lads.
seriously ?

Yup. One a current senior player doing by the pics on the Saffron Gael.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:07:27 PM
Well the reason I said that MR2 is I believe it. However having thought about it its not  fair to say that about young lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:07:27 PM
Well the reason I said that MR2 is I believe it. However having thought about it its not  fair to say that about young lads!

You haven't explained though, I asked you when in the game they lacked fortitude? I didn't see that, they won the first half, were ahead by two and Glenravel scored two points to level, after the penalty were holding on for rest of game, we were the better team with ten men after the black card.

It's funny how you see things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 10:18:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:07:27 PM
Well the reason I said that MR2 is I believe it. However having thought about it its not  fair to say that about young lads!

You haven't explained though, I asked you when in the game they lacked fortitude? I didn't see that, they won the first half, were ahead by two and Glenravel scored two points to level, after the penalty were holding on for rest of game, we were the better team with ten men after the black card.

It's funny how you see things

Better team with 10 men? Screamer must of been hard on your lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
When they got ahead they worked on staying ahead. Fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:22:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 10:18:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:07:27 PM
Well the reason I said that MR2 is I believe it. However having thought about it its not  fair to say that about young lads!

You haven't explained though, I asked you when in the game they lacked fortitude? I didn't see that, they won the first half, were ahead by two and Glenravel scored two points to level, after the penalty were holding on for rest of game, we were the better team with ten men after the black card.

It's funny how you see things

Better team with 10 men? Screamer must of been hard on your lads.

When the lad was black carded we scored two points to their zero, had 3 chances to level it, didn't take them. So during that period I'd say we were the better team.

Pretty low scoring for both teams in terms of their previous games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
When they got ahead they worked on staying ahead. Fair play

When they got ahead they worked on staying ahead, insightful stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 04, 2021, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:22:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 04, 2021, 10:18:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2021, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 04, 2021, 10:07:27 PM
Well the reason I said that MR2 is I believe it. However having thought about it its not  fair to say that about young lads!

You haven't explained though, I asked you when in the game they lacked fortitude? I didn't see that, they won the first half, were ahead by two and Glenravel scored two points to level, after the penalty were holding on for rest of game, we were the better team with ten men after the black card.

It's funny how you see things

Better team with 10 men? Screamer must of been hard on your lads.

When the lad was black carded we scored two points to their zero, had 3 chances to level it, didn't take them. So during that period I'd say we were the better team.

Pretty low scoring for both teams in terms of their previous games.
You still didn't twig the 10 men thing?

Lol 14 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 04, 2021, 11:22:25 PM
Glenravel showed more grit on the day. The penalty was a stonewall. And the black card could have been a red, as he slide tackled the young fella through on goal.
Halls lads shot them selves with scoring opps.

But screamer was fair for both teams today, typical winging from people.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 11:29:58 PM
Well done TNN but obviously their brilliant win is second place to the big u20 comp thst was on today. Just a pity half the teams didn't get a fair go at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 12:12:33 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 04, 2021, 11:22:25 PM
Glenravel showed more grit on the day. The penalty was a stonewall. And the black card could have been a red, as he slide tackled the young fella through on goal.
Halls lads shot them selves with scoring opps.

But screamer was fair for both teams today, typical winging from people.

Who's whinging?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2021, 06:58:38 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 11:29:58 PM
Well done TNN but obviously their brilliant win is second place to the big u20 comp thst was on today. Just a pity half the teams didn't get a fair go at.

So bitter. Quite embarrassing in fact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 09:05:01 AM
Did not make the under-20 final and although had Galls down as firm favourites I am more than pleased to celebrate a huge victory for Glenravel.
Thought St Gall's were the real deal but I do note they were missing a few who were on the start list v Cargin, particularly the big mid fielder Cruikshanks.
They must be blessed with a big panel and the future is bright at Milltown.

Do note the negative comments on the referee who I believe is the best in the county. Completely honest in decision making.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: referee on December 05, 2021, 08:03:40 AM
No doubt RC was there with his baseball hat and cigarette hanging out off his gubb, scrutinizing every ball that was kicked,fountain off knowledge

Lol I've been rumbled
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 10:29:30 AM
So, Creggan will have to dig deep to get over the line here, I've it at 50/50 purely because they are both first timers, Creggan at home helps, but can Creggan afford a poor start? They have shown they can get back at teams. A draw seems a good bet!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:36:38 AM
Creggan WILL NOT be within 6 points of Lurgan this day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:36:38 AM
Creggan WILL NOT be within 6 points of Lurgan this day.

I'd agree with you if team Lurgan were playing, seeing as there are a few teams in Lurgan they'd be a decent outfit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:43:31 AM
There's 2 teams in Randalstown but folk in here were calling Tir na Nog Randalstown, so stop nit picking MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 09:05:01 AM
Did not make the under-20 final and although had Galls down as firm favourites I am more than pleased to celebrate a huge victory for Glenravel.
Thought St Gall's were the real deal but I do note they were missing a few who were on the start list v Cargin, particularly the big mid fielder Cruikshanks.
They must be blessed with a big panel and the future is bright at Milltown.

Do note the negative comments on the referee who I believe is the best in the county. Completely honest in decision making.

So blinded by everything Cargin even your ref is the best in the county!!!

Does that mean every other ref has a motive and is dishonest in decision  making?

As for today our boys are in good shape, expect a battle but think we will sneak over the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 10:46:39 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:43:31 AM
There's 2 teams in Randalstown but folk in here were calling Tir na Nog Randalstown, so stop nit picking MR2

Still waiting on your reply
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:47:32 AM
For a reply you need to ask a question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 10:51:52 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:47:32 AM
For a reply you need to ask a question.

Which part our lads lack fortitude in the game? I never seen them pull out of a tackle and we were physically far smaller that the Glenravel lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 05, 2021, 10:54:52 AM
If you look carefully you will see I retracted that statement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 05, 2021, 11:10:34 AM
Dont know much about clan eireann other than the few county lads they have. Turbitt and kelly both look superb talents so will need close attention. Think creggan will win, they are well drilled and dont give up many scores. Creggan by 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 11:33:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 09:05:01 AM
Did not make the under-20 final and although had Galls down as firm favourites I am more than pleased to celebrate a huge victory for Glenravel.
Thought St Gall's were the real deal but I do note they were missing a few who were on the start list v Cargin, particularly the big mid fielder Cruikshanks.
They must be blessed with a big panel and the future is bright at Milltown.

Do note the negative comments on the referee who I believe is the best in the county. Completely honest in decision making.

So blinded by everything Cargin even your ref is the best in the county!!!

Does that mean every other ref has a motive and is dishonest in decision  making?

As for today our boys are in good shape, expect a battle but think we will sneak over the line

Wonder where I did question integrity of other refs, but I did note, and am sure Eamon is hugely annoyed at your previous snide observation.
Cargin have been the best about for a while, double,double treble....and have never resorted to attacks on an innocent Minion, burning flags and emblems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 11:33:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 09:05:01 AM
Did not make the under-20 final and although had Galls down as firm favourites I am more than pleased to celebrate a huge victory for Glenravel.
Thought St Gall's were the real deal but I do note they were missing a few who were on the start list v Cargin, particularly the big mid fielder Cruikshanks.
They must be blessed with a big panel and the future is bright at Milltown.

Do note the negative comments on the referee who I believe is the best in the county. Completely honest in decision making.

So blinded by everything Cargin even your ref is the best in the county!!!

Does that mean every other ref has a motive and is dishonest in decision  making?

As for today our boys are in good shape, expect a battle but think we will sneak over the line

Wonder where I did question integrity of other refs, but I did note, and am sure Eamon is hugely annoyed at your previous snide observation.
Cargin have been the best about for a while, double,double treble....and have never resorted to attacks on an innocent Minion, burning flags and emblems.

You've questioned my integrity both here and at the games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 11:33:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 09:05:01 AM
Did not make the under-20 final and although had Galls down as firm favourites I am more than pleased to celebrate a huge victory for Glenravel.
Thought St Gall's were the real deal but I do note they were missing a few who were on the start list v Cargin, particularly the big mid fielder Cruikshanks.
They must be blessed with a big panel and the future is bright at Milltown.

Do note the negative comments on the referee who I believe is the best in the county. Completely honest in decision making.



So blinded by everything Cargin even your ref is the best in the county!!!

Does that mean every other ref has a motive and is dishonest in decision  making?

As for today our boys are in good shape, expect a battle but think we will sneak over the line

Wonder where I did question integrity of other refs, but I did note, and am sure Eamon is hugely annoyed at your previous snide observation.
Cargin have been the best about for a while, double,double treble....and have never resorted to attacks on an innocent Minion, burning flags and emblems.

Where did I say anything to insult or be snide to Eamon? You were the one who said he makes his decision with total honesty but implication that other refs do not!

Justice for the minion, give it a rest CB you are making an even bigger fool out of yourself that usual
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 04, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:22:18 PM

Apparently the ref wore his Cargin half zip while taking on the role of ref in the final. Disgrace

I hear he may as well have worn a Glenravel jersey the penalty he gave!

Must have been an imposter then......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 04, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:22:18 PM

Apparently the ref wore his Cargin half zip while taking on the role of ref in the final. Disgrace

I hear he may as well have worn a Glenravel jersey the penalty he gave!

Must have been an imposter then......

Oh no that was me, wasn't convinced it was a penalty and yes I was there to see it! And I am sure knowing Eamon he would probably be more annoyed that you are on here slabbering about him than anything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 05, 2021, 03:31:04 PM
Good game there, that's the best referee in ulster IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 03:39:51 PM
CE the much better side the longer it went on. Creggan were in a strong position all the same and let them back into it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 05, 2021, 03:46:41 PM
Agreed Jim, their youthfulness appeared to a weakness at the start but helped them in the end. I think CE may struggle with the physicality and experience of Derrygonnelly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 03:58:40 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 04, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 04, 2021, 09:22:18 PM

Apparently the ref wore his Cargin half zip while taking on the role of ref in the final. Disgrace

I hear he may as well have worn a Glenravel jersey the penalty he gave!

Must have been an imposter then......

Oh no that was me, wasn't convinced it was a penalty and yes I was there to see it! And I am sure knowing Eamon he would probably be more annoyed that you are on here slabbering about him than anything

Possibly because you were not at the game in question as above , "I hear etc...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 05, 2021, 04:57:40 PM
Creggan are a game side but quite limited technically. CEs fitness seemed to be better and they improved as the match went on.  Was only one winner once CE drew level.  No shame, both sides in bonus territory
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 04:59:02 PM
Well I don't know which was more disappointing, giving up that lead or Cargin lads at the match cheering on every CE score, one lad nearly had a fit when the goal went it lol..

Anyways, I called it, a draw 7/1 too. Not sure how CE lined up in the first half but they certainly sorted things out in the second half, so good management from Tommy and co.

Good call on the ref, absolutely let the game flow, boys looking frees and he never bit, good team around him, as for the line ball that was brought in, which ended up the match saving drawing point, I was directly in line and I would be hard push to say the whole ball was over the line..

That's the furthest Antrim champs have got in the Ulster club since St Galls, we'll done Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 05, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 04:59:02 PM
Well I don't know which was more disappointing, giving up that lead or Cargin lads at the match cheering on every CE score, one lad nearly had a fit when the goal went it lol..

Anyways, I called it, a draw 7/1 too. Not sure how CE lined up in the first half but they certainly sorted things out in the second half, so good management from Tommy and co.

Good call on the ref, absolutely let the game flow, boys looking frees and he never bit, good team around him, as for the line ball that was brought in, which ended up the match saving drawing point, I was directly in line and I would be hard push to say the whole ball was over the line..

That's the furthest Antrim champs have got in the Ulster club since St Galls, we'll done Creggan

Shock horror, parish rivals cheering for another team, must be a first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 05, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 04:59:02 PM
Well I don't know which was more disappointing, giving up that lead or Cargin lads at the match cheering on every CE score, one lad nearly had a fit when the goal went it lol..

Anyways, I called it, a draw 7/1 too. Not sure how CE lined up in the first half but they certainly sorted things out in the second half, so good management from Tommy and co.

Good call on the ref, absolutely let the game flow, boys looking frees and he never bit, good team around him, as for the line ball that was brought in, which ended up the match saving drawing point, I was directly in line and I would be hard push to say the whole ball was over the line..

That's the furthest Antrim champs have got in the Ulster club since St Galls, we'll done Creggan

Shock horror, parish rivals cheering for another team, must be a first

I put a wee lol in there, wouldn't expect it any other way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 05, 2021, 05:09:49 PM
Hard luck to creggan, great 1st half but just ran out of legs in extra time. Kevin Small was unplayable, far and away the best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 05, 2021, 05:36:24 PM
Creggan v v v unfortunate today. Thought the line ball wasn't out and I've never seen a ref move  a line ball 15 yards IN THE FIELD, to make the equalising free scored more kickable...I didn't know that was a rule

Surprised conor McCann came off and 1 sub lost the ball 3 times, running into tackles, whereas the rest were more composed.

Composure wins those games and Ricky's handpass to the CE boy, immediately after a great Creggan interception, when 2 up  in injury time was crucial. Keep possession there and game was won.

Both CE goals were crackers, both hit when no goal was on really, great strikes.

Creggan missed a few easy enough frees too.  That defeat will hurt as its a long way back and there was a real Ulster final chance there

No surprise to see 'jesting' from others who've never themselves played in a winning Ulster club game

Great effort by Creggan,. Might stand to them if they make it back, powerful middle third of their team suits Ulster club. Takes a loss to win a game in Ulster sometimes as Galls well know (drew and lost the replay to Ballinderry in their 1st year of that run, Ballinderry won the AI. Won no game The next year in 02 but then got to the Ulster final in 03, finally winning it in 05 etc).

So heads up Creggan, maith sibh agus GRMA. Kevin Small is a Rolls Royce btw.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 05:46:07 PM
The ref did it twice in the game, you can change the sideline to a 'free' and bring in on to a more advantageous position should someone obstruct the sideline, I think then Creggan contested the line ball (rightly so from my position) and the ref brought it in.

That rule has been in a while in fairness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 05:54:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 11:33:17 AM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 05, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 05, 2021, 09:05:01 AM
Did not make the under-20 final and although had Galls down as firm favourites I am more than pleased to celebrate a huge victory for Glenravel.
Thought St Gall's were the real deal but I do note they were missing a few who were on the start list v Cargin, particularly the big mid fielder Cruikshanks.
They must be blessed with a big panel and the future is bright at Milltown.

Do note the negative comments on the referee who I believe is the best in the county. Completely honest in decision making.

So blinded by everything Cargin even your ref is the best in the county!!!

Does that mean every other ref has a motive and is dishonest in decision  making?

As for today our boys are in good shape, expect a battle but think we will sneak over the line

Wonder where I did question integrity of other refs, but I did note, and am sure Eamon is hugely annoyed at your previous snide observation.
Cargin have been the best about for a while, double,double treble....and have never resorted to attacks on an innocent Minion, burning flags and emblems.

You've questioned my integrity both here and at the games.

Wouldn't even take that prejudice aul git on MR2, surprised Saffron Gael have him about them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either

At Paul's this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either

At Paul's this year
what was that in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2021, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either

At Paul's this year
what was that in?

Minor B.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either

At Paul's this year
what was that in?

Not sure 🤔.. was a hurling juvenile game v Glenarm? Was at Dunsilly, was doing the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 05, 2021, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either

At Paul's this year
what was that in?

Minor B.
so not much to shout about really - Cargin, Cregan, Agha and PG1 prob top 4 senior teams too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 05, 2021, 07:43:58 PM
Is this not the major problem straight there
Us and them
End of season weighed up by how many trophies "we" won or how many "themuns down the motorway" won
Wise the f**k up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:48:03 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 05, 2021, 07:43:58 PM
Is this not the major problem straight there
Us and them
End of season weighed up by how many trophies "we" won or how many "themuns down the motorway" won
Wise the f**k up
no no no ! fair play to country clubs. Belfast is soccer dominated and poor facilities and needs Dublin like support - Gaelfast  on own not enough - We are Irelands 2nd city after all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 07:48:10 PM
St pauls and st brigids are on the up. St endas ok too.

Hurling is different. It is just much stronger in north Antrim. I believe st johns should have won one in last five years and missed their chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 07:50:12 PM
I don't think it is that big an issue any more hoof. It is amplified here by bgm and these millionaire managers who happen to be south west... not sure it is much more than that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
unfortunately i'm only belfast person on this board but i see former strong clubs like St Theresas, O Ds , Aggies and Eire Og with little to no juveniles then there is a problem . Any county clubs struggling like that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 05, 2021, 07:59:47 PM
Agree about Small, and McAteer at corner back was excellent too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
A Belfast man was telling me today about some of the amalgamations in Belfast. Very sad. Think he said there was an u17 hurling team that has the likes of St. Galls in it. I find it hard to understand how teams can't gather up 15 players when they have a massive population around them. Massive help is needed from outside the clubs. The problem seems to start from about the age of 14-19 in Belfast. There seems to be plenty of numbers in the lower age groups. I've no doubt the usual men in those clubs are busting their balls to get kids down to the club but they need help and money to help fix the problems. I'm not sure if we can even compare it to Dublin as they had won a million all Irelands before they went back and put money into it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:07:50 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 05, 2021, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 05, 2021, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
i started a thread on this before about Belfast GAA ' dying' and in need of support and was told off - anyone agree more given SW sweep of all age groups???dont think Belfast have won any hurling trophies in recenT history either

At Paul's this year
what was that in?

Minor B.
so not much to shout about really - Cargin, Cregan, Agha and PG1 prob top 4 senior teams too
Lámh Dhearg beat Aghagallon twice in the championship.
I don't think it's that clear cut.

Agreed. I wouldn't be putting Aghagallon or PG1 in top 4 just yet. On their day maybe but I still think there's about 5/6 clubs all around the same and then Cargin and Creggan a bit better than the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 05, 2021, 08:08:56 PM
I'm not sure St John's fielded by themselves in anything between u15 and senior. That's an eye opener.

If that's true that's unbelievable. How can that happen in a club like St. John's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 05, 2021, 08:08:56 PM
I'm not sure St John's fielded by themselves in anything between u15 and senior. That's an eye opener.

If that's true that's unbelievable. How can that happen in a club like St. John's
they joined with O'Ds, Davitts and Gorts at different age groups and called them Corpus Christi I think - Mr2 prob knows better than me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 05, 2021, 08:16:35 PM
Only 1 SW team comes to mind in terms of underage- Ahoghill. May be more but there the 1 i can think of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:17:43 PM
That Clann Eireann team from today has a massive membership and ridiculous numbers at underage. What do they do differently from the likes of St. John's? Not having hurling helps but it's not enough to not be able to field teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
A Belfast man was telling me today about some of the amalgamations in Belfast. Very sad. Think he said there was an u17 hurling team that has the likes of St. Galls in it. I find it hard to understand how teams can't gather up 15 players when they have a massive population around them. Massive help is needed from outside the clubs. The problem seems to start from about the age of 14-19 in Belfast. There seems to be plenty of numbers in the lower age groups. I've no doubt the usual men in those clubs are busting their balls to get kids down to the club but they need help and money to help fix the problems. I'm not sure if we can even compare it to Dublin as they had won a million all Irelands before they went back and put money into it.

I've mentioned this already in here.

We have numbers, while I'm a hurling man football is the big draw for parents, not kids at my club.

Personally I'd like us to go back to the blueprint, but it takes a huge collective effort.

In my view things go in cycles, our position is no different to when we hadn't won a senior in a few years, it'll come back around again.

There's no panic buttons being pressed, we know where we are.

Rossa and St John's need to decide what they are and stick at it for a period as competing at both is doing them out of potential championships

Smaller clubs will be continually squeezed unfortunately, we have too many clubs in my view. How that's fixed? Who knows
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 08:37:35 PM
winning is great of course but if teams who used to have juvenile teams now dont is that not alarm bells?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2021, 08:41:11 PM
See a pic of Enda Muldoon along with the Creggan management today, more money?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 05, 2021, 08:35:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2021, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
A Belfast man was telling me today about some of the amalgamations in Belfast. Very sad. Think he said there was an u17 hurling team that has the likes of St. Galls in it. I find it hard to understand how teams can't gather up 15 players when they have a massive population around them. Massive help is needed from outside the clubs. The problem seems to start from about the age of 14-19 in Belfast. There seems to be plenty of numbers in the lower age groups. I've no doubt the usual men in those clubs are busting their balls to get kids down to the club but they need help and money to help fix the problems. I'm not sure if we can even compare it to Dublin as they had won a million all Irelands before they went back and put money into it.

I've mentioned this already in here.

We have numbers, while I'm a hurling man football is the big draw for parents, not kids at my club.

Personally I'd like us to go back to the blueprint, but it takes a huge collective effort.

In my view things go in cycles, our position is no different to when we hadn't won a senior in a few years, it'll come back around again.

There's no panic buttons being pressed, we know where we are.

Rossa and St John's need to decide what they are and stick at it for a period as competing at both is doing them out of potential championships

Smaller clubs will be continually squeezed unfortunately, we have too many clubs in my view. How that's fixed? Who knows
I suppose you run into the argument of what the primary objective of a GAA club is. Win championships or promote the games? Both perhaps?

I'm fully behind that, but a big way our games are promoted is through competitions, getting the balance right is the thing.

Single code clubs do better, mainly, you've clubs that come along like S'niel who say different but not the case all over, Crokes only had one dual player in their squad, while the Tipp lads are another one, it's not the norm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
unfortunately i'm only belfast person on this board but i see former strong clubs like St Theresas, O Ds , Aggies and Eire Og with little to no juveniles then there is a problem . Any county clubs struggling like that?

No you're not. Mr and others.

Country clubs are different from city numbers wise and go through phases from what I can gauge. The likes of Sean Stinsons would have been needed in it's day for a reason. I think if you look at the hurling a few north Antrim teams are.  When I was growing up aghagallon could barely field and Randalstown and Creggan would have struggled but different now.  The likes of ahoghill would struggle from time to time with numbers I think but that's understandable.

St. Paul's only beat by one point in u17 and st galls one point. Not a crisis yet and ld have a bit of life in them.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 05, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
unfortunately i'm only belfast person on this board but i see former strong clubs like St Theresas, O Ds , Aggies and Eire Og with little to no juveniles then there is a problem . Any county clubs struggling like that?

No you're not. Mr and others.

Country clubs are different from city numbers wise and go through phases from what I can gauge. The likes of Sean Stinsons would have been needed in it's day for a reason. I think if you look at the hurling a few north Antrim teams are.  When I was growing up aghagallon could barely field and Randalstown and Creggan would have struggled but different now.  The likes of ahoghill would struggle from time to time with numbers I think but that's understandable.

St. Paul's only beat by one point in u17 and st galls one point. Not a crisis yet and ld have a bit of life in them.

But do we not all agree that although it's not dead in Belfast, it's certainly not going well. Even if a Belfast team wins the senior championship next year, doesn't change the fact that GAA in the city is not going that great at the minute. And we can't keep coming out with things like 'sure it goes in phases, it'll come back round again'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 09:59:40 PM
Tbh it is more in phases in the country with population. I am from a pretty small place and there have been years were we couldn't field because there just aren't the numbers. Belfast always would have the numbers so the phase thing isn't quite the same.

Demographics are changing though and with that st Brigids and st endas should come. The question is what comes out of the west. St. Paul's do seem to be competing at a better level and st galls got to u20 final so there must be a kick in them. St. John's don't appear to have as much coming through. Sarsfields you hear less of these days too. Rossa have players at an age they should be competitive in senior at both.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 05, 2021, 10:14:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 09:59:40 PM
Tbh it is more in phases in the country with population. I am from a pretty small place and there have been years were we couldn't field because there just aren't the numbers. Belfast always would have the numbers so the phase thing isn't quite the same.

Demographics are changing though and with that st Brigids and st endas should come. The question is what comes out of the west. St. Paul's do seem to be competing at a better level and st galls got to u20 final so there must be a kick in them. St. John's don't appear to have as much coming through. Sarsfields you hear less of these days too. Rossa have players at an age they should be competitive in senior at both.

Rossa have the players to challenge in the football if they decided to really give the football a go for a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 05, 2021, 10:15:32 PM
Yeah for me they have always focused a wee bit more on the hurling side maybe won't happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on December 06, 2021, 09:07:20 AM
An Antrim senior team falls again at the first hurdle in Ulster.  When was the last time an Antrim senior team won a game in the Ulster club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 09:11:52 AM
Think the elephant in the room is the fact almost to a man the presently  successful' clubs in the S West they were educated in South Derry, St Pius x, St Patrick's Maghera, and St Mary's all of whom are successful on the college, football route.
PG1 are also benifitting to a degree whilst Aghagallon benefit from the input of St Ronans.

Been a while since St Malachys, St Mary's CBS or any school/college has made a mark on the college football scene...
Think the last time the Mc Crory cup visited Belfast was way back in the 60s....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on December 06, 2021, 09:15:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 09:11:52 AM
Think the elephant in the room is the fact almost to a man the presently  successful' clubs in the S West they were educated in South Derry, St Pius x, St Patrick's Maghera, and St Mary's all of whom are successful on the college, football route.
PG1 are also benifitting to a degree whilst Aghagallon benefit from the input of St Ronans.

Been a while since St Malachys, St Mary's CBS or any school/college has made a mark on the college football scene...
Think the last time the Mc Crory cup visited Belfast was way back in the 60s....

1986
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 09:11:52 AM
Think the elephant in the room is the fact almost to a man the presently  successful' clubs in the S West they were educated in South Derry, St Pius x, St Patrick's Maghera, and St Mary's all of whom are successful on the college, football route.
PG1 are also benifitting to a degree whilst Aghagallon benefit from the input of St Ronans.

Been a while since St Malachys, St Mary's CBS or any school/college has made a mark on the college football scene...
Think the last time the Mc Crory cup visited Belfast was way back in the 60s....


1986, but don't let that get in the way your point... Only Belfast schools have won it also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 06, 2021, 09:18:03 AM
Rossa have the players to challenge in the football if they decided to really give the football a go for a few years.
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Rossa a team full of potential and who seem to have a bit of momentum at the moment. St Enda's and St Brigids also looking strong for the future.

Excuse my ignorance but what are the main challenges facing struggling clubs like St Johns at underage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2021, 09:20:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 09:11:52 AM
Think the elephant in the room is the fact almost to a man the presently  successful' clubs in the S West they were educated in South Derry, St Pius x, St Patrick's Maghera, and St Mary's all of whom are successful on the college, football route.
PG1 are also benifitting to a degree whilst Aghagallon benefit from the input of St Ronans.

Been a while since St Malachys, St Mary's CBS or any school/college has made a mark on the college football scene...
Think the last time the Mc Crory cup visited Belfast was way back in the 60s....

Yeah I think this too. A lot of our very good players get schooled in Derry and it's a massive benefit. St Galls also had the benefit of a lot of their players playing sigerson. (although the chicken egg thing there is they were obviously good enough to play sigerson so they must have been doing something right training wise too). On the flip side Belfast clubs have been providing players to universities who are good enough to compete at that level - e.g. McBride, Fitzpatrick, I think I saw McEnhill from Rossa was on a sigerson side too and then you could go back to half the st galls team too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2021, 11:25:39 AM
It's nothing short of an embarrassment how standards have slipped in the city. Anyone who wants to debate this is in denial. Antrim need a thriving competitive senior club football scene in Belfast. It's simply not there, and now we are talking about underage amalgamations just to field teams.

Talk about a renaissance of Irish culture and all things Gailige. There would still be GAA clubs there who would switch off TnaG to watch the soccer or the horse racing from what I am told.

The only thing will change this is a consistently successful County Team and I'm not holding out any great hope on that score either. We might end up competitive in Div 3 but that's not going to excite the masses!

This is where the director of football role really needs to kick in. There's 50 potentially elite juveniles in our midst, aged 12 to 16. Can we get 20 of them through a meaningful pipeline so that in ten years we will have a squad at senior level to be proud of???

This is entirely outside of anything related to county development squads. It's on top of that.

The structure behind that must be club led. Each club should be making sure every elite player within their jurisdiction does not slip the net!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2021, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2021, 09:20:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 09:11:52 AM
Think the elephant in the room is the fact almost to a man the presently  successful' clubs in the S West they were educated in South Derry, St Pius x, St Patrick's Maghera, and St Mary's all of whom are successful on the college, football route.
PG1 are also benifitting to a degree whilst Aghagallon benefit from the input of St Ronans.

Been a while since St Malachys, St Mary's CBS or any school/college has made a mark on the college football scene...
Think the last time the Mc Crory cup visited Belfast was way back in the 60s....

Yeah I think this too. A lot of our very good players get schooled in Derry and it's a massive benefit. St Galls also had the benefit of a lot of their players playing sigerson. (although the chicken egg thing there is they were obviously good enough to play sigerson so they must have been doing something right training wise too). On the flip side Belfast clubs have been providing players to universities who are good enough to compete at that level - e.g. McBride, Fitzpatrick, I think I saw McEnhill from Rossa was on a sigerson side too and then you could go back to half the st galls team too.

The environment and culture in South Derry schools and clubs where they eat, sleep, breathe football is a large part of this, which isn't perhaps as evident in other parts of Antrim.  There are exceptions of course, but in those South Derry schools the social status within the schools plus the interest in GAA and competition within is encouraged massively by the school itself. Similar to the Rugby grammar schools ethos.   I would imagine Belfast schools have a lot of soccer competition which wouldn't be the case in South Derry.  The SW Antrim clubs are benefitting from the total South Derry GAA Hotbed Environment where likes of SW Antrim Schools wouldn't be just as ingrained.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:49:27 AM
I'll have to have a look back in the old board and see, but I can't remember people worried about the state of SW clubs during St Galls period of dominance, I don't know why people seemed panicked by this tbh.

No one has their had in the sand btw either. What is the make up of the leagues last year?

Gorts, St Galls, St Johns, Rossa, St Brid's, Lamhs, St Enda's (they aint SW) .. I'd be concerned if this fell away, I've ref'd enough games to see the competitive nature of the leagues.

Its ok to share
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 06, 2021, 12:16:02 PM
As I have previously stated, Derry schools unashamedly promote Gaa both in time and finance. They are not scared to spend big and employ names. I was reading a piece at the weekend where the Big man Lagan that died recently had got a 4g pitch for his primary school, my young fella is lucky if he has a ball between 30 in his school. All makes a difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2021, 12:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:49:27 AM
I'll have to have a look back in the old board and see, but I can't remember people worried about the state of SW clubs during St Galls period of dominance, I don't know why people seemed panicked by this tbh.

No one has their had in the sand btw either. What is the make up of the leagues last year?

Gorts, St Galls, St Johns, Rossa, St Brid's, Lamhs, St Enda's (they aint SW) .. I'd be concerned if this fell away, I've ref'd enough games to see the competitive nature of the leagues.

Its ok to share

The point appears that it is all about the perspective that SW clubs are overperforming with limited numbers in a more conducive GAA environment, whereas Belfast clubs appear to be underperforming when relying on a large population with a less conducive environment.

It only stands to sense that if Belfast manages to change the environment then Belfast clubs will take off and SW clubs wont stand a chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2021, 12:26:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:49:27 AM
I'll have to have a look back in the old board and see, but I can't remember people worried about the state of SW clubs during St Galls period of dominance, I don't know why people seemed panicked by this tbh.

No one has their had in the sand btw either. What is the make up of the leagues last year?

Gorts, St Galls, St Johns, Rossa, St Brid's, Lamhs, St Enda's (they aint SW) .. I'd be concerned if this fell away, I've ref'd enough games to see the competitive nature of the leagues.

Its ok to share

The point appears that it is all about the perspective that SW clubs are overperforming with limited numbers in a more conducive GAA environment, whereas Belfast clubs appear to be underperforming when relying on a large population with a less conducive environment.

It only stands to sense that if Belfast manages to change the environment then Belfast clubs will take off and SW clubs wont stand a chance

I think its a case of Belfast clubs should have higher numbers but the promotion of other sports in Belfast is very high, we've basketballers, soccer lads and the rest within our teams, Schools that I went to never played any other sport, now they all dabble at every sport.

By the same token SW clubs wouldn't want a Dublin set up!

Under performing yes, dead, no, could do better, as my many teachers got fed up saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2021, 01:04:12 PM
The Dublin model might just not work as handy as people think in Belfast. First of all the Dublin clubs have very large memberships, some well into their thousands. Each member could pay at least £100 a year for the privilege. Just going by my sister who is a member of a club in Fingal. Do you know that St Sylvesters Malahide field 8 or 10 under twelve teams! And they are not the only ones catering literally for hundreds in each age group.

Each club in Dublin pays circa €20k to Dublin Co Board for the provision of a fully qualified coach to work in each club, liaising between the local club and the local school(s). Would that work in Belfast. Yes maybe in a few clubs but that kind of outlay might tip a few over the edge!

The interest in Dublin GAA has been fed by a county winning titles. Every young lad or lass wants to grow up and pull on the Dublin jersey. 

That's the chicken and egg scenario. Our youth want to see an Antrim team in Div 1. Nothing else will cut it.

Thats where the sheer importance of a highly efficient Director of Football comes in....aided by a vibrant sub committee, supported in full by all County Offices, and essentially, every club in Antrim putting in right structures at juvenile level.

Nothing else is going to get this done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 01:38:29 PM
Listened to a podcast with anthony daly few years ago. Said when he took the kilmacud hurlers he was being shown around the club by the chairman and a fella walked past and had a chat with him. Daly said to the chairman who is that lad? Chairman said i havent a clue of his name but hes a great fella and does alot of work about the club. Thats how big some dublin clubs are. Mind blowing membership numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 06, 2021, 02:29:06 PM
Sure that happems to MR2 all the time in St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 06, 2021, 02:29:06 PM
Sure that happems to MR2 all the time in St Galls

That I don't know players members or mentors?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
I seem to recall St Endas leaving South Antrim to join SW & NA leagues & championships due to lack of games at underage. It worked a treat for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
I seem to recall St Endas leaving South Antrim to join SW & NA leagues & championships due to lack of games at underage. It worked a treat for them.

I know what you are saying but they still based in South Antrim on the map! None of their lads go to school in Derry either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 06, 2021, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 06, 2021, 01:04:12 PM
The Dublin model might just not work as handy as people think in Belfast. First of all the Dublin clubs have very large memberships, some well into their thousands. Each member could pay at least £100 a year for the privilege. Just going by my sister who is a member of a club in Fingal. Do you know that St Sylvesters Malahide field 8 or 10 under twelve teams! And they are not the only ones catering literally for hundreds in each age group.

Each club in Dublin pays circa €20k to Dublin Co Board for the provision of a fully qualified coach to work in each club, liaising between the local club and the local school(s). Would that work in Belfast. Yes maybe in a few clubs but that kind of outlay might tip a few over the edge!

The interest in Dublin GAA has been fed by a county winning titles. Every young lad or lass wants to grow up and pull on the Dublin jersey. 

That's the chicken and egg scenario. Our youth want to see an Antrim team in Div 1. Nothing else will cut it.

Thats where the sheer importance of a highly efficient Director of Football comes in....aided by a vibrant sub committee, supported in full by all County Offices, and essentially, every club in Antrim putting in right structures at juvenile level.

Nothing else is going to get this done.
did anyone every find out what the Director of Football job is supposed to do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2021, 04:04:32 PM
i don't think comparisons with a huge metropolitan base like Dublin are realistic at this stage. We may have Ireland's 2nd city but half the population of the city don't/won't engage therefore a Cork, Limerick or Galway, cities with a large rural area would be more akin. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 04:15:20 PM
Agreed. Was just adding to BS comment about the dublin clubs. Think Ballydoden have around 100 teams in their club. Assume that is all codes but nonetheless that is an amazing number.

Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2021, 04:04:32 PM
i don't think comparisons with a huge metropolitan base like Dublin are realistic at this stage. We may have Ireland's 2nd city but half the population of the city don't/won't engage therefore a Cork, Limerick or Galway, cities with a large rural area would be more akin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on December 06, 2021, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
I seem to recall St Endas leaving South Antrim to join SW & NA leagues & championships due to lack of games at underage. It worked a treat for them.

I know what you are saying but they still based in South Antrim on the map! None of their lads go to school in Derry either

But they benefit from playing against kids who do go to Derry schools. forgetting maps, St Enda's are a SW club. They came to the SW and asked for help and the SW let them join, with restrictions for the first year. I#t has been a major success for the club. So if St Enda's win a senior championship, it will be under the SW banner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 05:48:19 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on December 06, 2021, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
I seem to recall St Endas leaving South Antrim to join SW & NA leagues & championships due to lack of games at underage. It worked a treat for them.

I know what you are saying but they still based in South Antrim on the map! None of their lads go to school in Derry either

But they benefit from playing against kids who do go to Derry schools. forgetting maps, St Enda's are a SW club. They came to the SW and asked for help and the SW let them join, with restrictions for the first year. I#t has been a major success for the club. So if St Enda's win a senior championship, it will be under the SW banner

Ok explain why we appeared in two all Ireland clubs and during the 80's appeared in 2 Ulster finals and winning one of them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
MR2 do you think that clubs just go along as normal as there's no panic and these things come around in cycles?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 06, 2021, 06:24:38 PM
Are there not enough games organised or do clubs pull out of matches at short notice. Surely there are enough players to fulfil fixtures across most age groups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
MR2 do you think that clubs just go along as normal as there's no panic and these things come around in cycles?

Yes, clubs go through lean spells, we were even relegated, it happens. We'd only started getting underage success in the 70's it took a while, if Creggan manage to win ten titles in 20 years I'd say their plan is working, winning one in 50 isn't showing signs of dominance, coming second  or last is the same. We'd big success in the 80's parts of the 90's and plenty dominance in 00's

Could be another 8/9 years before we get a go at it again, that's how i've viewed in my 40 years at this club, Johnnies even more successful on the domestic front than us, but they'll hardly fold and once they have the club set up sorted they'll come back.

If our current set of winning champions can't get past the first round of Ulster, has the standards dropped? And if they have them that's an all Antrim issue rather than a Belfast one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
MR2 do you think that clubs just go along as normal as there's no panic and these things come around in cycles?

Yes, clubs go through lean spells, we were even relegated, it happens. We'd only started getting underage success in the 70's it took a while, if Creggan manage to win ten titles in 20 years I'd say their plan is working, winning one in 50 isn't showing signs of dominance, coming second  or last is the same. We'd big success in the 80's parts of the 90's and plenty dominance in 00's

Could be another 8/9 years before we get a go at it again, that's how i've viewed in my 40 years at this club, Johnnies even more successful on the domestic front than us, but they'll hardly fold and once they have the club set up sorted they'll come back.

If our current set of winning champions can't get past the first round of Ulster, has the standards dropped? And if they have them that's an all Antrim issue rather than a Belfast one
I think the standard pretty good, a lot of hard luck stories from ourselves and now Creggan but they weren't far off yesterday to be fair.
I hear your U20 managers didn't take the defeat too well calling the ref all sorts of names after the final whistle, a relative of the ref was telling me today. Tut tut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:01:32 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 06:18:21 PM
The lack of games in South Antrim really needs to be addressed. There should be a game every week from March to September. That's how you'll compete with soccer. Kids like playing matches, not endlessly training for their 6 games in the year.

A thousand percent! Soccer is better run up and down the country, teams have 11 players and possibly 3 subs, it's a format that's been well run. There's generally though less membership within a club, easier to manage.

Growing up we'd plenty games, the half decent players played for two teams, under 12 under 14 hurling football and followed that through to senior. Now the age cap and kids picking one code has reduced the amount of Gaelic games a child is exposed too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
MR2 do you think that clubs just go along as normal as there's no panic and these things come around in cycles?

Yes, clubs go through lean spells, we were even relegated, it happens. We'd only started getting underage success in the 70's it took a while, if Creggan manage to win ten titles in 20 years I'd say their plan is working, winning one in 50 isn't showing signs of dominance, coming second  or last is the same. We'd big success in the 80's parts of the 90's and plenty dominance in 00's

Could be another 8/9 years before we get a go at it again, that's how i've viewed in my 40 years at this club, Johnnies even more successful on the domestic front than us, but they'll hardly fold and once they have the club set up sorted they'll come back.

If our current set of winning champions can't get past the first round of Ulster, has the standards dropped? And if they have them that's an all Antrim issue rather than a Belfast one
I think the standard pretty good, a lot of hard luck stories from ourselves and now Creggan but they weren't far off yesterday to be fair.
I hear your U20 managers didn't take the defeat too well calling the ref all sorts of names after the final whistle, a relative of the ref was telling me today. Tut tut

Abusing referees is a disgrace and hopefully Eamon puts it in his report. I didn't see much wrong with the officiating of the game, few calls either way.

Where would you like me to start with the abuse I continually get during and after Cargin games?

Now that you're interested in ref abuse

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
MR2 do you think that clubs just go along as normal as there's no panic and these things come around in cycles?

Yes, clubs go through lean spells, we were even relegated, it happens. We'd only started getting underage success in the 70's it took a while, if Creggan manage to win ten titles in 20 years I'd say their plan is working, winning one in 50 isn't showing signs of dominance, coming second  or last is the same. We'd big success in the 80's parts of the 90's and plenty dominance in 00's

Could be another 8/9 years before we get a go at it again, that's how i've viewed in my 40 years at this club, Johnnies even more successful on the domestic front than us, but they'll hardly fold and once they have the club set up sorted they'll come back.

If our current set of winning champions can't get past the first round of Ulster, has the standards dropped? And if they have them that's an all Antrim issue rather than a Belfast one
I think the standard pretty good, a lot of hard luck stories from ourselves and now Creggan but they weren't far off yesterday to be fair.
I hear your U20 managers didn't take the defeat too well calling the ref all sorts of names after the final whistle, a relative of the ref was telling me today. Tut tut

Abusing referees is a disgrace and hopefully Eamon puts it in his report. I didn't see much wrong with the officiating of the game, few calls either way.

Where would you like me to start with the abuse I continually get during and after Cargin games?

Now that you're interested in ref abuse
I wouldn't condone it anyway, tough job and no one deserves to be abused
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 06:05:24 PM
MR2 do you think that clubs just go along as normal as there's no panic and these things come around in cycles?

Yes, clubs go through lean spells, we were even relegated, it happens. We'd only started getting underage success in the 70's it took a while, if Creggan manage to win ten titles in 20 years I'd say their plan is working, winning one in 50 isn't showing signs of dominance, coming second  or last is the same. We'd big success in the 80's parts of the 90's and plenty dominance in 00's

Could be another 8/9 years before we get a go at it again, that's how i've viewed in my 40 years at this club, Johnnies even more successful on the domestic front than us, but they'll hardly fold and once they have the club set up sorted they'll come back.

If our current set of winning champions can't get past the first round of Ulster, has the standards dropped? And if they have them that's an all Antrim issue rather than a Belfast one

But why wait for those good spells? Why not be strong all the time and then have an exceptional team every once in a while. That includes the South West clubs too. It's not going perfect either, but a lot better than before.  There's massive clubs in Belfast that can't field a minor team ffs. The standard of football is decent in about 5/6 clubs. In other counties like Tyrone there's about 15 good teams ffs. And if you want to compare dual counties then look at the likes of Galway. That's why they've all Ireland titles and Antrim are crap. I think it's up to clubs, Antrim and the GAA to get their finger out and start get more players playing the game, particularly in Belfast. It's ok saying about St. Galls. That was an exceptional group of players who had great underage success! That might happen ever again if things don't change. Belfast football is not dead but it's not doing as good as it should be. Some areas have no clubs at all and there's maybe a few too many clubs in other areas of the city. There's massive potential but not a lot of effort to change it. Ah sure it'll be grand, we'll come good eventually. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 07:28:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?

Tyrone don't do a whole pile in Ulster. They've a stronger spread of teams rather one exceptional team. What's better?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:31:31 PM
St galls were a freak team. Absolutely littered with talent. Well oiled machine. 1 of the best teams in ulster consistently. Could always rely on them to represent antrim well in ulster. Once in a generation team. They set the highest standrds and i would assume at the start of each season they werent looking at antrim, they would have had their eyes set on ulster and beyond. Thats how good they were. Couldnt speak highly enough of them.

In terms of standards dropping, of course they are going to when a team like that isnt winning championships. But im not having that antrim clubs cant compete in ulster. As i said previous, creggan just had to hold onto the ball for 5/10 more seconds and they would have had a great chance of reaching the final. Our clubs can compete against the best in ulster and ive no doubt they will in the years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:27 PM
We won in the 80's with a totally different team and in the 90's .

It's getting the right structures with the right mentors at the right time, we had a great group of mentors with an exceptional juvenile committee charged with developing our kids coming through.

That whole set up managed 5 minor and under 21's in a row, I remember those days up at St Pats home where we managed to coach all these lads that went on to the pinnacle.

It's very hard to sustain that, if it was easy we'd continue to do that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Yous had gweedore dead to rights that day in my opinion. They were rattled until cassidys goal.

Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win

Any side in Ulster is good, the Gweedore being the best (in my view) but the we can only look at how good we are against others at that level. There was a decent Cargin team that got to the semis in the 90's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
If it wasnt for galls id dare say cargin would have an ulster medal. Close, mccanns, scullion, crozier, kobo 7/8/9 years younger. Would have given as good as they got in ulster.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win

Any side in Ulster is good, the Gweedore being the best (in my view) but the we can only look at how good we are against others at that level. There was a decent Cargin team that got to the semis in the 90's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:44:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win

Any side in Ulster is good, the Gweedore being the best (in my view) but the we can only look at how good we are against others at that level. There was a decent Cargin team that got to the semis in the 90's?
1998 St Johns beat Ardboe then narrowly lost a semi to Cross, Cargin beat Carrickmore the following year and again lost narrowly to Cross in the semi. St Pauls also reached the semi in 1996 and 1997 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
If it wasnt for galls id dare say cargin would have an ulster medal. Close, mccanns, scullion, crozier, kobo 7/8/9 years younger. Would have given as good as they got in ulster.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win

Any side in Ulster is good, the Gweedore being the best (in my view) but the we can only look at how good we are against others at that level. There was a decent Cargin team that got to the semis in the 90's?

They won a championship after beating us in the first round the year after we lost the All Ireland, so those lads were that age you're talking about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:46:23 PM
Its just viewed as elite as a different club wins every year. I have been to quite a few over the years and the matches are always class to be fair. But should be doing better in ulster.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:47:39 PM
They were too young at that age ye see 😂. Talking more in the 2012/13 bracket.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
If it wasnt for galls id dare say cargin would have an ulster medal. Close, mccanns, scullion, crozier, kobo 7/8/9 years younger. Would have given as good as they got in ulster.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win

Any side in Ulster is good, the Gweedore being the best (in my view) but the we can only look at how good we are against others at that level. There was a decent Cargin team that got to the semis in the 90's?

They won a championship after beating us in the first round the year after we lost the All Ireland, so those lads were that age you're talking about
???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:57:27 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:47:39 PM
They were too young at that age ye see 😂. Talking more in the 2012/13 bracket.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
If it wasnt for galls id dare say cargin would have an ulster medal. Close, mccanns, scullion, crozier, kobo 7/8/9 years younger. Would have given as good as they got in ulster.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 06, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:19:19 PM
So beacuse the best club team antrim has ever seen arent challenging nomore that automatically means the standard has dropped? Ok.

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 06, 2021, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
I was at corrigan a few years back when cargin played gweedore. Mid way through the 2nd half cargin looked like the only team that was going to go on and win it, kevin cassidy scored a goal against the run of play and that halted cargins momentum. 1 that got away from cargin. Low and behold gweedore went on to win ulster. Creggan were very unlucky not to win yesterday and would have had a good chance of reaching the final. So i wouldnt necessarily say the standards have dropped.
To win an Antrim championship 10 years ago, you had to beat the best team in Ireland. That is not even remotely the case today.
The standard has dropped.

Look our return in Ulster can be a yardstick to where we are at currently, it's not hard luck stories every time?
In recent years we lost to Crossmaglen, Killyclogher, Gweedore and Derrygonnelly. All
good sides. Killyclogher actually the one that annoys me most they weren't great and we should of beaten them. Creggan should be sitting in the semi now but for a monstrous free kick to equalise. You get 60mins every other year if your lucky to have a crack at it. Not easy getting that elusive win

Any side in Ulster is good, the Gweedore being the best (in my view) but the we can only look at how good we are against others at that level. There was a decent Cargin team that got to the semis in the 90's?

They won a championship after beating us in the first round the year after we lost the All Ireland, so those lads were that age you're talking about
???

We were same age
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 08:01:18 PM
Aye but i did say IF galls werent about. Hypothetical of course but do think they would have been in the mix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 08:01:18 PM
Aye but i did say IF galls werent about. Hypothetical of course but do think they would have been in the mix.

I know and if you're granny had balls 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 08:06:36 PM
Cahair okane just shared a tweet that states a Dublin club received €200k in membership fees this year. Jesus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 08:07:07 PM
Haha is right.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 08:01:18 PM
Aye but i did say IF galls werent about. Hypothetical of course but do think they would have been in the mix.

I know and if you're granny had balls 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 06, 2021, 09:15:06 PM
She's gonna be a long winter boys if we are going round in circles like this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2021, 09:25:47 PM
Savage craic lads, it's like 2010/11/12/13 etc all over again!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2021, 09:25:47 PM
Savage craic lads, it's like 2010/11/12/13 etc all over again!!

2001 onwards  ;)

County convention on? Be plenty to talk about soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 09:48:26 PM
I'd say Creggan men will be kicking themselves for throwing that away yesterday. Clann Eireann showed flaws in Creggan's game yesterday as well. Pushing right up on the kick out and pushing up on their sweepers was so simple but effective. Be interesting to see if they come back as hungry. I'm sure the 2 lads who were out injured will want to get another crack at a championship medal but will the rest be as motivated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2021, 09:52:49 PM
Is right Roger! Can't be waiting on Gaelfast round these parts. Clubs need to take their own responsibility for how they want to look in ten years. Anything they benefit from eg local schools or development squads is bonus territory.

We've had this discussion before not too long ago ....nothings changed in that regard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 06, 2021, 09:52:49 PM
Is right Roger! Can't be waiting on Gaelfast round these parts. Clubs need to take their own responsibility for how they want to look in ten years. Anything they benefit from eg local schools or development squads is bonus territory.

We've had this discussion before not too long ago ....nothings changed in that regard.

Sure it goes round in cycles. Be grand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 10:00:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 09:48:26 PM
I'd say Creggan men will be kicking themselves for throwing that away yesterday. Clann Eireann showed flaws in Creggan's game yesterday as well. Pushing right up on the kick out and pushing up on their sweepers was so simple but effective. Be interesting to see if they come back as hungry. I'm sure the 2 lads who were out injured will want to get another crack at a championship medal but will the rest be as motivated.

Nothing motivates like losing a championship game.
I do know that the Cargin lads are totally devastated since their departure from the 2021 scene with only a league title as reward for their labours.
None have decided to hang up the boots and hearing an early start to the next season is planned under a new management structure.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:10:51 PM
Creggan will be even stronger next year with small and quinn back. No doubt cargin and LD will fancy their chances of winning it. St marys finally joined the party. Only a matter if time before PG1 reach a final. 5 genuine contenders IMO. Can st johns, st endas, st brids or rossa step up a gear and challenge? Maybe a rejuvenated galls side. Great to see so many teams in with a shout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:15:20 PM
On a side note, anyone know why David McGuckian wasnt playing for Creggan this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 10:26:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:10:51 PM
Creggan will be even stronger next year with small and quinn back. No doubt cargin and LD will fancy their chances of winning it. St marys finally joined the party. Only a matter if time before PG1 reach a final. 5 genuine contenders IMO. Can st johns, st endas, st brids or rossa step up a gear and challenge? Maybe a rejuvenated galls side. Great to see so many teams in with a shout.

As I the other day I would have Creggan and Cargin out on their own and then the rest. Not much between the rest either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:29:16 PM
Yeah i would agree with that. Think the other 3 are in the conversation though.

Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 10:26:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:10:51 PM
Creggan will be even stronger next year with small and quinn back. No doubt cargin and LD will fancy their chances of winning it. St marys finally joined the party. Only a matter if time before PG1 reach a final. 5 genuine contenders IMO. Can st johns, st endas, st brids or rossa step up a gear and challenge? Maybe a rejuvenated galls side. Great to see so many teams in with a shout.

As I the other day I would have Creggan and Cargin out on their own and then the rest. Not much between the rest either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.

That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.

That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.

Most of the time I'm taking the piss out of Tyrone clubs, generally they have amazing club teams. Just shit the nest in Ulster which is a mystery.

The reality is we can only play what's in front of us, and we managed to do well enough.

The Antrim championship needs to have more competing that's a given, but people here seem to be wanting to push the nuke button!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 06, 2021, 09:52:49 PM
Is right Roger! Can't be waiting on Gaelfast round these parts. Clubs need to take their own responsibility for how they want to look in ten years. Anything they benefit from eg local schools or development squads is bonus territory.

We've had this discussion before not too long ago ....nothings changed in that regard.

Sure it goes round in cycles. Be grand.

You need to have at least one cycle for it to go to another cycle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:52:11 PM
I kind of get what your saying gold but if you throw any dominant club into the tyrone or dublin cship of course they wouldnt win it as much due to the high level of competition . Kilcoo, scotstown etc would be the same. I dare say that st galls team would have fancied their chances no matter what county they were in.

In regards to your div 3 v div 1 call, i couldnt say for sure as i have very little knowledge of tyrone lower levels, but i would confidently fancy an antrim div 1 side over any div 3 side in tyrone. Our club football isnt that bad ye know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:52:11 PM
I kind of get what your saying gold but if you throw any dominant club into the tyrone or dublin cship of course they wouldnt win it as much due to the high level of competition . Kilcoo, scotstown etc would be the same. I dare say that st galls team would have fancied their chances no matter what county they were in.

In regards to your div 3 v div 1 call, i couldnt say for sure as i have very little knowledge of tyrone lower levels, but i would confidently fancy an antrim div 1 side over any div 3 side in tyrone. Our club football isnt that bad ye know!

Tir na Nog will meet up with Moortown on the Ulster way and I certainly would not dismiss the Whitehill men's chances against the Lough Shore men...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:52:11 PM
I kind of get what your saying gold but if you throw any dominant club into the tyrone or dublin cship of course they wouldnt win it as much due to the high level of competition . Kilcoo, scotstown etc would be the same. I dare say that st galls team would have fancied their chances no matter what county they were in.

In regards to your div 3 v div 1 call, i couldnt say for sure as i have very little knowledge of tyrone lower levels, but i would confidently fancy an antrim div 1 side over any div 3 side in tyrone. Our club football isnt that bad ye know!

Tir na Nog will meet up with Moortown on the Ulster way and I certainly would not dismiss the Whitehill men's chances against the Lough Shore men...

Hopefully you'll be cheering them on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 06, 2021, 11:19:16 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.
That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.
I get you're trying to emphasise something here but no, they definitely wouldn't ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 06, 2021, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 06, 2021, 11:19:16 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.
That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.
I get you're trying to emphasise something here but no, they definitely wouldn't ;D

I'm as big an Antrim supporter as there is and wish we were better, I'm not trying to say anything, just calling what I see.

Honestly they would compete. Not saying theyd win it, not saying they'd be top 4, but they'd beat Gort and Ahoghill etc more times than they'd lose. You're talking a team who've nearly all played McCrory at Omagh. The strength in depth in Tyrone is just insane
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 06, 2021, 11:48:23 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 06, 2021, 11:19:16 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.
That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.
I get you're trying to emphasise something here but no, they definitely wouldn't ;D

I'm as big an Antrim supporter as there is and wish we were better, I'm not trying to say anything, just calling what I see.

Honestly they would compete. Not saying theyd win it, not saying they'd be top 4, but they'd beat Gort and Ahoghill etc more times than they'd lose. You're talking a team who've nearly all played McCrory at Omagh. The strength in depth in Tyrone is just insane
I know Intermediate teams in Tyrone who wouldn't even beat Gorts and Ahoghill. So no they definitely wouldn't.  ;D You're blinded by outsider bias in order to emphasis some kind of point. This thing of being up Tyrone footballs hole is quite bizarre. Their record is abysmal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:51:38 PM
I will say this about Cookstown years ago, was possibly 2009, we were playing in the game after against the Monaghan champions, Cookstown were unreal that day, I've said it before on many occasions, they'd have given us a hell of a game that day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 06, 2021, 11:58:05 PM
They won the all ireland intermediate a few years after that if im correct? I would say they woulda have been decent alright. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:51:38 PM
I will say this about Cookstown years ago, was possibly 2009, we were playing in the game after against the Monaghan champions, Cookstown were unreal that day, I've said it before on many occasions, they'd have given us a hell of a game that day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2021, 11:59:03 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.

That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.

Don't forget St Galls benefitted massively from a transfer/recruitment policy unavailable to rural clubs.  Simply put the majority of Antrim Gaels dont have the obsession with Gaa that those in Tyrone or South derry do. Until we bridge that gap or radically improve our methods then Div 3 and 4 will maiinly be our lot in life.  The environment needs to change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:52:11 PM
I kind of get what your saying gold but if you throw any dominant club into the tyrone or dublin cship of course they wouldnt win it as much due to the high level of competition . Kilcoo, scotstown etc would be the same. I dare say that st galls team would have fancied their chances no matter what county they were in.

In regards to your div 3 v div 1 call, i couldnt say for sure as i have very little knowledge of tyrone lower levels, but i would confidently fancy an antrim div 1 side over any div 3 side in tyrone. Our club football isnt that bad ye know!

Tir na Nog will meet up with Moortown on the Ulster way and I certainly would not dismiss the Whitehill men's chances against the Lough Shore men...

Hopefully you'll be cheering them on
And why not, my better half is from Randalstown and her brothers all wore the blue and white.
Big families in the country Mr2....got relatives involved in PG1, Creggan, Bellaghy, Magereafelt, Ardboe, and even West Ham....yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 08:58:05 AM
Quote from: Spike on December 06, 2021, 11:59:03 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 06, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
Look at tyrone. Everyone raves about their championship. Absolute state of their record in ulster. Does that mean that tyrone have overrated club sides? Standards poor? I highly doubt it. My guess is that it is extremely hard to win in ulster. 9 excellent club teams and only 1 winner, it ainy easy.

I really do think they hype up their championship if I'm being honest, the best team I seen was Carrickmore . Ardboe beat us back in the day, crazy match, but I still think they are not as good as they think

Only thing I'd say on Tyrone is my other half's club are Junior, Division 3 in Tyrone. They would compete in Div 1 Antrim every day of the week and half their team have won a McCrory medal  and almost all played in it. That's the strength in depth they have and the difference.The physicality and relentless pace is something that we just don't have and need to work on as a county. 

They are obsessed with Football in Tyrone and in their schools to a level we aren't. Everyone knows about it and every game and their sense of pride and self and self worth almost comes from their County team. We have a far broader interest in other sports and not the same focus. If we did we would be the most successful Ulster team, given our population.

That Galls team was absolutely and utterly exceptional,  they won 13 out of 14 or so Antrims and were by far the best team we have seen, incredible. 
But if they were in Tyrone or Dublin they simply wouldn't have won as much. They won 2 Ulster's in that space of time...winning Tyrone is the same as winning an Ulster, its a minefield.

Dublin is similar. The standard of teams in lower end of Div 1 and even top of Div 2 was frightening when I was there in the late 00s. All would've competed with Galls which I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't seen it up close.
The size and physicality of the teams was and remains phenomenal.

Don't forget St Galls benefitted massively from a transfer/recruitment policy unavailable to rural clubs.  Simply put the majority of Antrim Gaels dont have the obsession with Gaa that those in Tyrone or South derry do. Until we bridge that gap or radically improve our methods then Div 3 and 4 will maiinly be our lot in life.  The environment needs to change.

We won 5 Minor and under 21 titles in a row, we'd a couple of players that didn't play in our juveniles, I firmly believe we'd have won any way. We don't recruit, they come to us, that's how it is.  But keep banging that drum if it makes you feel happy  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 09:04:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2021, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 06, 2021, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 06, 2021, 10:52:11 PM
I kind of get what your saying gold but if you throw any dominant club into the tyrone or dublin cship of course they wouldnt win it as much due to the high level of competition . Kilcoo, scotstown etc would be the same. I dare say that st galls team would have fancied their chances no matter what county they were in.

In regards to your div 3 v div 1 call, i couldnt say for sure as i have very little knowledge of tyrone lower levels, but i would confidently fancy an antrim div 1 side over any div 3 side in tyrone. Our club football isnt that bad ye know!

Tir na Nog will meet up with Moortown on the Ulster way and I certainly would not dismiss the Whitehill men's chances against the Lough Shore men...

Hopefully you'll be cheering them on
And why not, my better half is from Randalstown and her brothers all wore the blue and white.
Big families in the country Mr2....got relatives involved in PG1, Creggan, Bellaghy, Magereafelt, Ardboe, and even West Ham....yourself?

Its just I seen your lot cheering on CE on Sunday, honestly this one lads he jumped that high his trackies nearly fell off..

Why would I have relatives in the country? I've cousins that play for St Teresa's that be about it.. Sister is married to a strongly connected Rossa family, which will have me cheering on my nephew when he takes up the sport.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

recruited plenty of managers also, so that stuff wouldn't annoy me, but it makes people feel good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

But such bears absolutely no resemblance to how St Gall's recruited players from all over, and cherry picking from their less less successful neighbours.
No doubt they had assembled a super team up at Milltown but such had a cosmopolitan look, and in now way mirrored ordinary club sides.

Team building by bus is the fast lane to success but what happens when the veichle runs out of fuel...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

But such bears absolutely no resemblance to how St Gall's recruited players from all over, and cherry picking from their less less successful neighbours.
No doubt they had assembled a super team up at Milltown but such had a cosmopolitan look, and in now way mirrored ordinary club sides.

Team building by bus is the fast lane to success but what happens when the veichle runs out of fuel...?

You are deluded CB, those in glass houses......

I'm here all day ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 07, 2021, 10:28:43 AM
What players from other clubs played for them out of interest? I know pollock and the gallagher bros but thats all im aware off.

Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

But such bears absolutely no resemblance to how St Gall's recruited players from all over, and cherry picking from their less less successful neighbours.
No doubt they had assembled a super team up at Milltown but such had a cosmopolitan look, and in now way mirrored ordinary club sides.

Team building by bus is the fast lane to success but what happens when the veichle runs out of fuel...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

But such bears absolutely no resemblance to how St Gall's recruited players from all over, and cherry picking from their less less successful neighbours.
No doubt they had assembled a super team up at Milltown but such had a cosmopolitan look, and in now way mirrored ordinary club sides.

Team building by bus is the fast lane to success but what happens when the veichle runs out of fuel...?

You are deluded CB, those in glass houses......

I'm here all day ;)

May well be approaching senility but could easily name the whole hist of imports from all over Ulster and within who lined out in the Blue and White.

Glad you are staying......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

But such bears absolutely no resemblance to how St Gall's recruited players from all over, and cherry picking from their less less successful neighbours.
No doubt they had assembled a super team up at Milltown but such had a cosmopolitan look, and in now way mirrored ordinary club sides.

Team building by bus is the fast lane to success but what happens when the veichle runs out of fuel...?

You are deluded CB, those in glass houses......

I'm here all day ;)

May well be approaching senility but could easily name the whole hist of imports from all over Ulster and within who lined out in the Blue and White.

Glad you are staying......

Remember, glass houses and throwing stones  ;D

Tell me about this 60's McRory cup team from Belfast being the last winners CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 10:17:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

But such bears absolutely no resemblance to how St Gall's recruited players from all over, and cherry picking from their less less successful neighbours.
No doubt they had assembled a super team up at Milltown but such had a cosmopolitan look, and in now way mirrored ordinary club sides.

Team building by bus is the fast lane to success but what happens when the veichle runs out of fuel...?

You are deluded CB, those in glass houses......

I'm here all day ;)

May well be approaching senility but could easily name the whole hist of imports from all over Ulster and within who lined out in the Blue and White.

Glad you are staying......

Remember, glass houses and throwing stones  ;D

Tell me about this 60's McRory cup team from Belfast being the last winners CB

Went to St Malachys myself.....CBS were never on the radar.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

Paddy Logan and his brothers had a falling out with Ahoghill so we wasn't recruited by Ballymena.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 07, 2021, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 07, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Im sure SW teams have "recruited" players also. Mick magill, paddy logan spring to mind.

Paddy Logan and his brothers had a falling out with Ahoghill so we wasn't recruited by Ballymena.



Fair enough. Magill just left solely for footballing reasons though? Similar to pollock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Was Sean Burns not originally from St. Enda's and Mark McCrory from Clann Eireann in Lurgan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 11:49:12 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Was Sean Burns not originally from St. Enda's and Mark McCrory from Clann Eireann in Lurgan

Played 2 years minor for us Sean, did. Managed to win senior championship as a minor. Mark, well I'm sure there is a reason why he left, his dad was a great help too on the sidelines.

No one recruits these lads to be fair, I was very friendly with Sean during our playing days at juvenile, we played on the same county teams also at that age, I didn't recruit him, he made a choice to come. Clutching at straws guys, but hey knock yourselves out.

Why did Gerard O'Boyle leave?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 07, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
Some bickering going on here the last few days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 11:49:12 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Was Sean Burns not originally from St. Enda's and Mark McCrory from Clann Eireann in Lurgan

Played 2 years minor for us Sean, did. Managed to win senior championship as a minor. Mark, well I'm sure there is a reason why he left, his dad was a great help too on the sidelines.

No one recruits these lads to be fair, I was very friendly with Sean during our playing days at juvenile, we played on the same county teams also at that age, I didn't recruit him, he made a choice to come. Clutching at straws guys, but hey knock yourselves out.

Why did Gerard O'Boyle leave?

Personal reasons or a falling out as far as I remember.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 11:59:39 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Was Sean Burns not originally from St. Enda's and Mark McCrory from Clann Eireann in Lurgan
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Add the O'Neill brothers, Colm Brady, a couple from Lisburn, and not forgetting John Rafferty and Paddy Quinn.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Was Sean Burns not originally from St. Enda's and Mark McCrory from Clann Eireann in Lurgan

Add, Ciaran mccrossan(Tyrone) mcgirr(Tyrone) two gallaghers(fermanagh) rafferty (Armagh) brady(St endas) o'neill(mcdermotts) suppose just to name a few really in more recent times
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 11:26:09 AM
Was Sean Burns not originally from St. Enda's and Mark McCrory from Clann Eireann in Lurgan

Add, Ciaran mccrossan(Tyrone) mcgirr(Tyrone) two gallaghers(fermanagh) rafferty (Armagh) brady(St endas) o'neill(mcdermotts) suppose just to name a few really in more recent times

Brady played juvenile for us, his dad was a senior hurler for us who I played alongside, His dad played juvenile.
McCrossan, McGirr, Gallagher (one of) Rafferty all work related as in jobs in Belfast.
Oneill's all juvenile from under 12, I was manager of under 12 teams and Nial was in that team from under 10

On that note, are there clubs out there who haven't brought in a player or manager? If there is then they are clean ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 12:11:20 PM
Best to park all the BS lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 07, 2021, 12:20:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 12:11:20 PM
Best to park all the BS lads
+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 07, 2021, 12:24:19 PM
City clubs are always going to benefit from players coming to belfast for work. Same with dublin, cork etc. thats just the way it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 07, 2021, 12:20:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 12:11:20 PM
Best to park all the BS lads
+1

+2.

It's the season of good will and all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 07, 2021, 12:37:28 PM
Maybe the point has been lost in the noise but St Galls' super success was boosted with a different process than your typical Antrim club and without such may have been just an excellent club side in Antrim rather than the All -Ireland champions.   

Your typical Antrim club needs an environmental change and shift in local culture allied to proper structures in order to get to anywhere to the position that Bannside is aiming for.  That takes time, belief, confidence and a complete change in mindset within and around the club community.   

The question is are Antrim Gaels capable of that?  Can we create that culture or is there too much distraction, apathy or lack of will?  Would the Antrim team ever be household names in the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 07, 2021, 12:20:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 12:11:20 PM
Best to park all the BS lads
+1

+2.

It's the season of good will and all that.

Sure there's no craic in that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 12:55:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2021, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 07, 2021, 12:20:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 12:11:20 PM
Best to park all the BS lads
+1

+2.

It's the season of good will and all that.

Sure there's no craic in that

Get you out on your cycle  ;) good weather for it up that direction
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 07, 2021, 12:58:07 PM
Indeed Spike. This is a long process, and the only guaranteed result is if a club puts in proper work in its juvenile division.

Get your best coaches in here. The most important sub committee in any club should be juvenile development committee. Invest in your youth and the dividends will flow.

I've said it before. In PG1 anything happening at senior level is playing second fiddle to the Trojan work going on at juvenile level. There's not one person here would dispute that or challenge it either.

Do we expect to see this manifest itself at senior level in 8 -10 years? You bet we do!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 01:05:20 PM
Hearing news coming from the kickhams Creggan club the managerial merry go round continues 👀 💰
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 07, 2021, 12:37:28 PM
Maybe the point has been lost in the noise but St Galls' super success was boosted with a different process than your typical Antrim club and without such may have been just an excellent club side in Antrim rather than the All -Ireland champions.   

Your typical Antrim club needs an environmental change and shift in local culture allied to proper structures in order to get to anywhere to the position that Bannside is aiming for.  That takes time, belief, confidence and a complete change in mindset within and around the club community.   

The question is are Antrim Gaels capable of that?  Can we create that culture or is there too much distraction, apathy or lack of will?  Would the Antrim team ever be household names in the county?

Is a lesson well learned in Cargin.....quality ex players in place from under-6 squad right through to seniors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??
I Gerard has been there for 4 years BS, he is taking Antrim U20s?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Finger on the pulse as usual Bannside, the Latter I have heard from numerous sources.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Finger on the pulse as usual Bannside, the Latter I have heard from numerous sources.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??

Ciaran Mc Cartney maybe in the frame.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Finger on the pulse as usual Bannside, the Latter I have heard from numerous sources.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??

Ciaran Mc Cartney maybe in the frame.....?

I think he's staying with Rasharkin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on December 07, 2021, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 07, 2021, 12:37:28 PM
Maybe the point has been lost in the noise but St Galls' super success was boosted with a different process than your typical Antrim club and without such may have been just an excellent club side in Antrim rather than the All -Ireland champions.   

Your typical Antrim club needs an environmental change and shift in local culture allied to proper structures in order to get to anywhere to the position that Bannside is aiming for.  That takes time, belief, confidence and a complete change in mindset within and around the club community.   

The question is are Antrim Gaels capable of that?  Can we create that culture or is there too much distraction, apathy or lack of will?  Would the Antrim team ever be household names in the county?

Is a lesson well learned in Cargin.....quality ex players in place from under-6 squad right through to seniors.

This is the trick. Some people are obsessed with the senior manager, but its the youth coaches who are critical in the club. With the right coaches who are passionate about the club who know the sport,  they are the really important ones.

From a Creggan point of view, when Toby became chairman in the 90's, he worked really hard at getting teams together who would stay at an age group for a couple of years. We also had Micky Moran and Hugh McGettigan  took time to coach the coaches, focusing on a evolving process from U8 to U18. That's where the hard grind is.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on December 07, 2021, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Finger on the pulse as usual Bannside, the Latter I have heard from numerous sources.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??

Ciaran Mc Cartney maybe in the frame.....?

I would have thought that Dougie would be in pole position now after he won the "battle of the brickie" junior final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 07, 2021, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on December 07, 2021, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 07, 2021, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Finger on the pulse as usual Bannside, the Latter I have heard from numerous sources.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??

Ciaran Mc Cartney maybe in the frame.....?

I would have thought that Dougie would be in pole position now after he won the "battle of the brickie" junior final
Big step up in levels there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 08, 2021, 07:57:21 AM
Heard the spirit levels were pretty good tho....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on December 08, 2021, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2021, 07:57:21 AM
Heard the spirit levels were pretty good tho....
;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2021, 07:57:21 AM
Heard the spirit levels were pretty good tho....

He's got a good foundation to build on with that Creggan side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 08, 2021, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??

Is Muldoon still in Gallagher's backroom team at Derry?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 08, 2021, 03:58:41 PM
Probably is. I know he was up in Creggan a few nights that's all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.

At least he does it for free
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 08, 2021, 05:29:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM


Did Fay Devlin&McGeehan help Galls for free? 🤔
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.

At least he does it for free
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2021, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.

At least he does it for free
And all refs are not expecting their fee per game nor travelling expenses either.
Isn't it a wonderful world.....😎😎
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2021, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.

At least he does it for free
And all refs are not expecting their fee per game nor travelling expenses either.
Isn't it a wonderful world.....😎😎

Well with your wide knowledge of all all things refereeing there's a course available, means you can get into the games for free, instead of that note book you use
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 08, 2021, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2021, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.

At least he does it for free
And all refs are not expecting their fee per game nor travelling expenses either.
Isn't it a wonderful world.....😎😎

Well with your wide knowledge of all all things refereeing there's a course available, means you can get into the games for free, instead of that note book you use

Would not qualify I fear......surely a degree of infallibility is an absolute requirement....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 07:25:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2021, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 08, 2021, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 08, 2021, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Pete McGrath the new Aghagallan manager?

No but Jim Gavin is thinking about taking them.

At least he does it for free
And all refs are not expecting their fee per game nor travelling expenses either.
Isn't it a wonderful world.....😎😎

Well with your wide knowledge of all all things refereeing there's a course available, means you can get into the games for free, instead of that note book you use

Would not qualify I fear......surely a degree of infallibility is an absolute requirement....?

I'd have thought that be right up your street
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
were there any changes at county AGM?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
were there any changes at county AGM?
Changes?

What motions were put forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 08, 2021, 10:13:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
were there any changes at county AGM?

Tyrone Eastwood got beat for his role, can't remember what he did, by Tony Shivers, only change I heard of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2021, 07:26:37 AM
Welcome Tony, a man who gets things done....alongside Big Donal....a formidable duo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 09, 2021, 11:29:29 AM
Good to see Tony Shivers appointed. He has played a central role in the success of the Saffron Business Forum and his own club Dunloy.

Anyone who knows Tony will know he does not settle for second best and is not afraid to ruffle a few feathers to make sure things are done right!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: Caesar on December 09, 2021, 11:29:29 AM
Good to see Tony Shivers appointed. He has played a central role in the success of the Saffron Business Forum and his own club Dunloy.

Anyone who knows Tony will know he does not settle for second best and is not afraid to ruffle a few feathers to make sure things are done right!

A very astute business man, that's what we need more of. Any other notable gossip from the night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2021, 11:40:43 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 08, 2021, 10:13:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 08, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
were there any changes at county AGM?

Tyrone Eastwood got beat for his role, can't remember what he did, by Tony Shivers, only change I heard of

I assume there are no term limits for these posts, I mean Tyrone Eastwood has been around since I was a youngster. Change is no bad thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 09, 2021, 11:57:46 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on December 07, 2021, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 07, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
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Quote from: bannside on December 07, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Mc Nultys have completed 3 years, and finished with the McNamee. A move to the next challenge (or a well earned rest) is to be expected.

Finger on the pulse as usual Bannside, the Latter I have heard from numerous sources.

Martin Mc Elkennon and/or Enda Muldoon by any chance??

Ciaran Mc Cartney maybe in the frame.....?

I would have thought that Dougie would be in pole position now after he won the "battle of the brickie" junior final

Hear the McNultys are staying on at Creggan, Dougan with McCartney have went to Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
ws the future of Gaelfast mentioned at convention?
i think there is only 12/ 18 months left of the original 5 years and needs extended
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
ws the future of Gaelfast mentioned at convention?
i think there is only 12/ 18 months left of the original 5 years and needs extended

Is that including the 18 odd months that it wasn't on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2021, 09:08:06 PM
Re Tyrone Eastwood....a true gent who has offered decades of selfless service to Antrim GAA. I'm sure we will still see him in some capacity....not too many queuing up to do the type of job Tyrone has been doing. Change is inevitable though, and Tony officially onboard is a great development...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
ws the future of Gaelfast mentioned at convention?
i think there is only 12/ 18 months left of the original 5 years and needs extended

Is that including the 18 odd months that it wasn't on?
yes but do u think they will just add that on? they were paying wages in that period
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 09, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
Dougan and McCartney are not the big names I heard for Sharkin. 🙈
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2021, 09:42:13 PM
Dunsilly looking really well with the new floodlights. Another milestone reached. Congratulations to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 09, 2021, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 09, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
Dougan and McCartney are not the big names I heard for Sharkin. 🙈

Confirmed .....Adrian Dougan and Ciaran Mc Cartney are confirmed in a dual management role at Rasharkin....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 09, 2021, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
ws the future of Gaelfast mentioned at convention?
i think there is only 12/ 18 months left of the original 5 years and needs extended

Is that including the 18 odd months that it wasn't on?
yes but do u think they will just add that on? they were paying wages in that period

They were probably furloughed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
ws the future of Gaelfast mentioned at convention?
i think there is only 12/ 18 months left of the original 5 years and needs extended

Is that including the 18 odd months that it wasn't on?
yes but do u think they will just add that on? they were paying wages in that period

Was Croke paying the wages or was it the government?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
the free state furlough was more of a 50/50 scheme so GAA were out of pocket - we need a 10 year scheme
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
the free state furlough was more of a 50/50 scheme so GAA were out of pocket - we need a 10 year scheme

50/50? Didn't realise they were paid in euros..

Let's see what happens from it then see if it needs extended with more money, obviously it needs a return of sorts..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 11:03:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
the free state furlough was more of a 50/50 scheme so GAA were out of pocket - we need a 10 year scheme

50/50? Didn't realise they were paid in euros..

Let's see what happens from it then see if it needs extended with more money, obviously it needs a return of sorts..
not complicated the GAA has sterling accounts - a return? coaches in primary schools is the return
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 09, 2021, 11:31:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
the free state furlough was more of a 50/50 scheme so GAA were out of pocket - we need a 10 year scheme

50/50? Didn't realise they were paid in euros..

Let's see what happens from it then see if it needs extended with more money, obviously it needs a return of sorts..


If you get your hands on the Gaelfast report for agm, got if off club secretary, it lists the kpi's croke have set for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 10, 2021, 12:00:47 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 09, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
Dougan and McCartney are not the big names I heard for Sharkin. 🙈

I would like to seek clarification of who these big names were?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 10, 2021, 08:24:48 AM
He was a double All Ireland winner with Tyrone, obviously I've been fed a load of mushroom feed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on December 10, 2021, 09:14:05 AM
Any photos of Dunsilly going about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 10, 2021, 09:34:32 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 09, 2021, 11:31:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
the free state furlough was more of a 50/50 scheme so GAA were out of pocket - we need a 10 year scheme

50/50? Didn't realise they were paid in euros..

Let's see what happens from it then see if it needs extended with more money, obviously it needs a return of sorts..


If you get your hands on the Gaelfast report for agm, got if off club secretary, it lists the kpi's croke have set for them

I'll have to ask our secretary if he got a copy as well..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 10, 2021, 09:37:44 AM
I have asked for this also. Could anyone summarise the KPIs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 10, 2021, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 10, 2021, 09:37:44 AM
I have asked for this also. Could anyone summarise the KPIs

Dont have it in front of me but roughly

primary school coaching programme
nursey school coaching programme
coach education with clubs
run super games
secondary school blitz programme
cul camps programme
Go games
development squads

thats from memory, what the actual targets are within those i have no idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on December 10, 2021, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 10, 2021, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 10, 2021, 09:37:44 AM
I have asked for this also. Could anyone summarise the KPIs

Dont have it in front of me but roughly

primary school coaching programme
nursey school coaching programme
coach education with clubs
run super games
secondary school blitz programme
cul camps programme
Go games
development squads

thats from memory, what the actual targets are within those i have no idea

Got our one from our secretary,  that looks about right.
The document in summary:
First page is some facts from April 2021 staff returned;
92 primary schools in 2021 1869 lessons
4872 kids coached per week
203 club support sessions


New man overseeing, thanks to those who left for service
A view to pilot something like the Dublin model
application to BCC for 6 more coaches
Bit about Cul camps
Club support & coaching resources (actually looks well)
Review on Go Games & Super Games activity
Coach Education review
Page at the end from the coaching officer

Probably didn't do it justice but I'm not typing the whole thing out here  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 11, 2021, 02:13:53 AM
Bit of a side note, but how good is fitzy for Glenavon? Seems to be scoring in every game more often than not! Massive loss for antrim ( best player in the county IMO) but fair play to him.

Hope to see him in saffron in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 11, 2021, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Ciall on December 10, 2021, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 10, 2021, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 10, 2021, 09:37:44 AM
I have asked for this also. Could anyone summarise the KPIs

Dont have it in front of me but roughly

primary school coaching programme
nursey school coaching programme
coach education with clubs
run super games
secondary school blitz programme
cul camps programme
Go games
development squads

thats from memory, what the actual targets are within those i have no idea

Got our one from our secretary,  that looks about right.
The document in summary:
First page is some facts from April 2021 staff returned;
92 primary schools in 2021 1869 lessons
4872 kids coached per week
203 club support sessions


New man overseeing, thanks to those who left for service
A view to pilot something like the Dublin model
application to BCC for 6 more coaches
Bit about Cul camps
Club support & coaching resources (actually looks well)
Review on Go Games & Super Games activity
Coach Education review
Page at the end from the coaching officer

Probably didn't do it justice but I'm not typing the whole thing out here  :o
92 schools is superb! fingers crossed it can be kept going for the long term. With casement only being used by moths for foreseeable we need it badly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 11, 2021, 10:04:59 PM
I know Casement is important but why does everyone think building Casement is going to turn Antrim's performances around. Casement was there for many years and Antrim were crap then too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 11, 2021, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 11, 2021, 02:13:53 AM
Bit of a side note, but how good is fitzy for Glenavon? Seems to be scoring in every game more often than not! Massive loss for antrim ( best player in the county IMO) but fair play to him.

Hope to see him in saffron in the not too distant future.


Wouldn't be much of a soccer man but friends in the know about the Irish league say he's a class above it and could easily handle England  or Scotland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 11, 2021, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 11, 2021, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 11, 2021, 02:13:53 AM
Bit of a side note, but how good is fitzy for Glenavon? Seems to be scoring in every game more often than not! Massive loss for antrim ( best player in the county IMO) but fair play to him.

Hope to see him in saffron in the not too distant future.


Wouldn't be much of a soccer man but friends in the know about the Irish league say he's a class above it and could easily handle England  or Scotland.

Think he has been offered a full time contract but has turned it down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 12, 2021, 01:53:40 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 11, 2021, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2021, 10:04:59 PM
I know Casement is important but why does everyone think building Casement is going to turn Antrim's performances around. Casement was there for many years and Antrim were crap then too.
Preach it.

It's old-school, tug on the heart strings propaganda. We've given our ground away for nothing for a white elephant vanity project. How are we going to sell it to the masses? Just tell them it will awaken the sleeping giant of Antrim GAA. Amazingly, it has worked. Idiots buy this shite. More fool them.

Totally agree. I was at many league matches there that we had under 100 of us at. Wouldn't even get a  clap when our team ran out.
Stewards always grumpy fcuks, aul boys club,  hard men shit. Very un-Gaa like

Hope it changes with the kick a new stadium will give us ....but defo not the reason we've won only 5 Championship matches in Ulster since 1982
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2021, 07:46:37 AM
Casement project more about politics and Belfast than Antrim gaa. If we had got an impressive stadium for free it would have been great mind you. It was great to play in casement but it was only needed for a handful of games a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2021, 09:15:10 AM
Question I would like to ask is this. Is the money there to actually do this?

I get it the original grant funding has been ringfenced, but who is stumping up the extra, given that the overall cost projection is currently massively over budget by many millions!

Apart from continued uncertainty surrounding the valid concerns of Moreland Park residents, is the project definitely financially guaranteed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on December 12, 2021, 09:25:09 AM
Allowing the insurance on Casement to run out when an alternative venue had not been sourced was just one of the acts of incompetence of the Ulster council project team and Antrim co board at that time.
Trying to bully the social club was another spectacular own goal with so many local residents involved in both.
Combine that with their arrogance when negotiating with the Residents and the contemptible offers they made; Feeney and McGeehan were simply out of their depth. At least Feeney had the good sense to move on and realise he wasn't up to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 13, 2021, 08:15:06 AM
Niall McKeever and Mark Sweeney rumoured to have hung up the intercounty boots. I thought big Niall had his best ever season this year for Antrim, be a real shame if he didn't follow through on that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 09:14:07 AM
Niall McKeever and Niall Delargy have declined invitations to be part of this year's squad for personal reasons, likewise Justin Crozier and Paddy Cunningham who have officially called it a day at county level. Wasn't sure about Mark Sweeney.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 13, 2021, 01:32:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2021, 09:14:07 AM
Niall McKeever and Niall Delargy have declined invitations to be part of this year's squad for personal reasons, likewise Justin Crozier and Paddy Cunningham who have officially called it a day at county level. Wasn't sure about Mark Sweeney.


Mckeevers presence in the middle will be missed. Would like to see kevin small in there now given his dominant performances in the championship. Delargy will be a massive miss unfortunately, great player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 13, 2021, 03:40:21 PM
I assume they are both still able to commit to their club?

Will surely be a boost for the Ports to have them for the full year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 04:36:54 PM
Yes Caesar. Both have plans to devote their full attention to the club's push in 2022. Both have served the county well, but being good clubmen they will probably never feel completely whole in a football sense unless they can be part of a senior championship winning team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2021, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2021, 04:36:54 PM
Yes Caesar. Both have plans to devote their full attention to the club's push in 2022. Both have served the county well, but being good clubmen they will probably never feel completely whole in a football sense unless they can be part of a senior championship winning team.

I always found that the strength and conditioning at the county set up would benefit the players when they filtered back into the club?

A few Creggan lads were on the county panel last year, didn't harm them..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 13, 2021, 05:24:56 PM
I'd have PG1 favourites for next year's championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 05:44:52 PM
Strength and Conditioning in the PG1 set up will be arguably better than the county set up MR. John McKeever is well on top of things like this.

I wouldn't say we are favourites Stiffler, but I'm not going to apologise for saying that I would definitely expect to see noticeable improvement, and that should realistically leave us close enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 13, 2021, 06:16:02 PM
Big talk there BS. You must have a few forward targets for the January transfer window, otherwise I suspect you won't really be that close I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 08:41:21 PM
It kind of suits us perfectly EOC that many share your view that PG1 are nowhere near making a breakthrough. I recall a learned Gael from Cargin informing me in the not too distant past that not in his lifetime would we see Creggan beat them in a championship match. That didn't last long.

Things do change, and just as Cargin did eventually make a breakthrough after many heartbreaking failures, so too other clubs can put a run together. Creggan looked good value for their victory against Erin's Own, and your challenge is to get back up on your own horse.

PG1 are one of several teams on an upward progress curve. Further improvement under a fresh management team should leave us there or thereabouts. I'm happy to stand by that view




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 13, 2021, 08:41:51 PM
I would have to say PG1 need to make vast improvements to get to the top. Going in the right direction though, John the right man I feel. I would however agree that we need 2 or 3 forwards!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2021, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 13, 2021, 08:41:51 PM
I would have to say PG1 need to make vast improvements to get to the top. Going in the right direction though, John the right man I feel. I would however agree that we need 2 or 3 forwards!

Which forwards aren't cutting it for you?  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 13, 2021, 08:51:40 PM
A new bakery around Ballymena?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 13, 2021, 09:00:58 PM
I think anyone that played in our forwards is a perfectly good footballer who gets their fair share of scores, it is an out and out score hungry forward we miss and someone who will score 18 frees out of 20! I know they are few and far between but can dream.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 13, 2021, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2021, 08:41:21 PM
It kind of suits us perfectly EOC that many share your view that PG1 are nowhere near making a breakthrough. I recall a learned Gael from Cargin informing me in the not too distant past that not in his lifetime would we see Creggan beat them in a championship match. That didn't last long.

Things do change, and just as Cargin did eventually make a breakthrough after many heartbreaking failures, so too other clubs can put a run together. Creggan looked good value for their victory against Erin's Own, and your challenge is to get back up on your own horse.

PG1 are one of several teams on an upward progress curve. Further improvement under a fresh management team should leave us there or thereabouts. I'm happy to stand by that view
John will improve you, but you struggle with teams like Ahoghill and St Brigids currently. The top 2 blow these teams away quite easily. That's a lot of ground to make up, that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 13, 2021, 09:44:16 PM
To be fair EOC I would discount Ahoghill, they consider themselves to have had a good year if they beat us once. Plus they quadrupled their efforts against us, that would annoy me if I was in their management also all they want to do is pull and drag, they try and play football against other teams and get blown away, don't understand them. Either play one way or the other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 13, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Don't think he is any more a step up than Dillon. Dillon has a better CV, having coached Derry at senior and u21 level. He has also been with UU Jordanstown in Sigerson the past 5 yrs. Think they are both of a similar level with Dillon having experience at a higher level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 13, 2021, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2021, 05:44:52 PM
Strength and Conditioning in the PG1 set up will be arguably better than the county set up MR. John McKeever is well on top of things like this.

I wouldn't say we are favourites Stiffler, but I'm not going to apologise for saying that I would definitely expect to see noticeable improvement, and that should realistically leave us close enough.

Can't see how ports S&c can be better than county BS! Anyone who has been in county hurling as last 2 years has made great progress under Brendan Murphy and he's up with more with the footballers this year it can only bode well. Hard to imagine ports bringing in a specialist of his calibre but maybe yous have someone lined up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2021, 10:47:15 PM
Do hear what you are saying BS but cannot see PG1 scaling the heights any time soon.
J Mc K may well encourage better but to win a senior championship an essential ingredient is most certaily strength in depth and although I do have a slightly vested interest in Casement's your failure to impress at under age level above under 13 for a time such is a stumbling block to early success.

Some may well be involved in well rehearsed requiems for Cargin but have observed a steely resolve within and regret that they did not fire on all cylinders last year and firm intentions to get it right next year.
Creggan will no doubt be favourites to retain Mc Namee next year and such by right.
However to retain with the target on their back is a more difficult task.
Takes a good team to win it and a better team to hold on to the prize and a tremendous feat to make it three in a row.

Casement's will be ready for battle in 2022 but in all honesty I just cannot see them bring Mr Mc Namee to Portglenone.

May well prove me wrong but will be the first to congratulate them if they breast the line as winners in 2022.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 10:59:48 PM
Brendan Murphy is very highly rated, there's no dispute about that. We are happy though with the new S&C set up that JMK has put in place.

UUJ have gone completely backwards these last 5 years so I don't think that's a yardstick to measure anything except spectacular underperformance.

Again CB, your opinion may well be right. Of course there is still a gap, but I think we can find some improvement this year under a fresh management. Time will tell of course, all we are doing is speculating!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2021, 11:02:11 PM
Hard to ascertain college football, you can only play the kids that go to the college, that changes, and last year there was no football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 11:07:36 PM
Just not getting the right kids now at UUJ. That's what it is....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 13, 2021, 11:17:09 PM
Lol CB. Everyone is preaching a well rehearsed requiem for poor old Erin's Own! Don't think anyone is falling for that one just because of a sub standard 30 minutes football.

Right here and now Cargin are favourites for 2022 closely followed by your Lough shore neighbours. The odds on the rest are rightly higher. There's a reason for this!

There's a few others in the pack though who could nip a result on any given day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2021, 08:57:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2021, 11:17:09 PM
Lol CB. Everyone is preaching a well rehearsed requiem for poor old Erin's Own! Don't think anyone is falling for that one just because of a sub standard 30 minutes football.

Right here and now Cargin are favourites for 2022 closely followed by your Lough shore neighbours. The odds on the rest are rightly higher. There's a reason for this!

There's a few others in the pack though who could nip a result on any given day.

Not making reference requiems in the present era, but u must recall Cargin falling at the final hurdle on 11 separate occasions to the delight of more than a few.
"That's it, they won't be back," a well rehearsed phrase as many tripped out of Casement.

Of course upsets, are possible but this year there was a strong section and a not so strong section.
Casement's did occupy a place in the latter.

County bye law does require a 'seeding system', which possibly because of present circumstance was not employed in 2021.
A return to such will ensure a different climate....

J Mc K may well encourage improvement but.....the path to the top is steep and requires at least 25 sturdy individuals to carry the load...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2021, 09:04:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 13, 2021, 11:17:09 PM
Lol CB. Everyone is preaching a well rehearsed requiem for poor old Erin's Own! Don't think anyone is falling for that one just because of a sub standard 30 minutes football.

Right here and now Cargin are favourites for 2022 closely followed by your Lough shore neighbours. The odds on the rest are rightly higher. There's a reason for this!

There's a few others in the pack though who could nip a result on any given day.

It may take 2/3 seasons to get the benefits of a new manager, luck, experience and settling into new tasks will provide some humps on the road to success, at least you'll have the ones complaining about managers getting paid off your back  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2021, 09:43:43 AM
Welcome Antrim, that's a decent team right there if the remit was within the last 25 years. Not too many positions there that you could argue about. Justy a fine servant too, steady as the town clock.

Ricky in the full back line somewhere must be worthy of consideration. Joe Quinn at Midfield also has to be in contention, and Aodhan Gallagher never let club or county down.

We haven't been spoiled by marquee forwards in this time. CJ was one but never rose to the heights that were anticipated for a variety of reasons and the outstanding club forward during this era surely had to be Ciaran Close.

It depends on the terms of reference. Is it ability, it is consistently high level of county service, or is it the best players seen during that time...in which case Kieran Mc Gourty is nailed on somewhere!

No one could dispute the talent of Kevin Mc Gourty, but he dazzled only to deceive in Saffron, and the big one who got away was possibly the best of the lot. Eddie Quinn.

All about opinions.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on December 14, 2021, 09:45:07 AM
UUJ use to target top players to entice them to the uni. They stopped that policy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2021, 10:19:49 AM
Indeed. So much outlay for such little return. Meanwhile Paddy Tally was making the most out of what he had.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2021, 02:42:57 PM
How many years did Sheeny McQuillan play for antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 14, 2021, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Antrim on December 14, 2021, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2021, 09:43:43 AM
Welcome Antrim, that's a decent team right there if the remit was within the last 25 years. Not too many positions there that you could argue about. Justy a fine servant too, steady as the town clock.

Ricky in the full back line somewhere must be worthy of consideration. Joe Quinn at Midfield also has to be in contention, and Aodhan Gallagher never let club or county down.

We haven't been spoiled by marquee forwards in this time. CJ was one but never rose to the heights that were anticipated for a variety of reasons and the outstanding club forward during this era surely had to be Ciaran Close.

It depends on the terms of reference. Is it ability, it is consistently high level of county service, or is it the best players seen during that time...in which case Kieran Mc Gourty is nailed on somewhere!

No one could dispute the talent of Kevin Mc Gourty, but he dazzled only to deceive in Saffron, and the big one who got away was possibly the best of the lot. Eddie Quinn.

All about opinions.....

That's it.  I toyed with Aodhan Gallagher and with Joe Quinn but those performances from Shenny McQuillan during the Brian White days made me go with him.  Maybe would change it to Aidso the more I think of it for consistency.

Millions of talent like the McGourtys but I suppose you have to go with who actually did it all the time.  Anyway, I signed up when you were all talking about this but activation to join only came through last night so that's why I thought I'd post anyway!!

Happy Christmas lol

S Kelly is not the best CHB we have had, not by a distance. WHB yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2021, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on December 14, 2021, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Antrim on December 14, 2021, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2021, 09:43:43 AM
Welcome Antrim, that's a decent team right there if the remit was within the last 25 years. Not too many positions there that you could argue about. Justy a fine servant too, steady as the town clock.

Ricky in the full back line somewhere must be worthy of consideration. Joe Quinn at Midfield also has to be in contention, and Aodhan Gallagher never let club or county down.

We haven't been spoiled by marquee forwards in this time. CJ was one but never rose to the heights that were anticipated for a variety of reasons and the outstanding club forward during this era surely had to be Ciaran Close.

It depends on the terms of reference. Is it ability, it is consistently high level of county service, or is it the best players seen during that time...in which case Kieran Mc Gourty is nailed on somewhere!

No one could dispute the talent of Kevin Mc Gourty, but he dazzled only to deceive in Saffron, and the big one who got away was possibly the best of the lot. Eddie Quinn.

All about opinions.....

That's it.  I toyed with Aodhan Gallagher and with Joe Quinn but those performances from Shenny McQuillan during the Brian White days made me go with him.  Maybe would change it to Aidso the more I think of it for consistency.

Millions of talent like the McGourtys but I suppose you have to go with who actually did it all the time.  Anyway, I signed up when you were all talking about this but activation to join only came through last night so that's why I thought I'd post anyway!!

Happy Christmas lol

S Kelly is not the best CHB we have had, not by a distance. WHB yes.

When did he play CHB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2021, 04:53:00 PM
You're perfectly allowed a bit of artistic licence Antrim. That MR fellow needs to put away his whistle and chill out a bit sometimes lol....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2021, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2021, 04:53:00 PM
You're perfectly allowed a bit of artistic licence Antrim. That MR fellow needs to put away his whistle and chill out a bit sometimes lol....
Cold storage.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2021, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2021, 04:53:00 PM
You're perfectly allowed a bit of artistic licence Antrim. That MR fellow needs to put away his whistle and chill out a bit sometimes lol....

My question was for DK, not Antrim ;)

See you first game CB up at your ground. Be good to dust down the cobwebs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 14, 2021, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2021, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2021, 04:53:00 PM
You're perfectly allowed a bit of artistic licence Antrim. That MR fellow needs to put away his whistle and chill out a bit sometimes lol....

My question was for DK, not Antrim ;)

See you first game CB up at your ground. Be good to dust down the cobwebs

Maybe not......??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2021, 08:42:56 PM
You been banned?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 14, 2021, 08:46:03 PM
Maybe MR2 is banned from Toome, CB is on to something here 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2021, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 14, 2021, 08:46:03 PM
Maybe MR2 is banned from Toome, CB is on to something here 🤔

Why? Oh? So clubs next year can pick and choose? Righty o.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 14, 2021, 09:16:40 PM
When are MR2 and Country Bumpkin going to fight and get this over with?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 14, 2021, 10:42:34 PM
Working late tonight and as I came past dunsilly the lights were on so ran her round the roundabout and ducked me head in. Very impressive I must say. 2 pitches lite up and in full swing. Years overdue tbh just great to see the facility.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 14, 2021, 10:57:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 14, 2021, 09:16:40 PM
When are MR2 and Country Bumpkin going to fight and get this over with?
JS you would never get agreement on the purse split, weight, venue (South West or City), ringside judges and referee
MR2 would be happy with expenses & mileage
CB would need the paid manager & entourage covered

Put it out to purse offers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 15, 2021, 05:05:21 AM
Quote from: Flanker on December 14, 2021, 10:57:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 14, 2021, 09:16:40 PM
When are MR2 and Country Bumpkin going to fight and get this over with?
JS you would never get agreement on the purse split, weight, venue (South West or City), ringside judges and referee
MR2 would be happy with expenses & mileage
CB would need the paid manager & entourage covered

Put it out to purse offers

Forget casement! Make this fight instead!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2021, 07:24:56 AM
Dunsilly under lights.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
Now now lads verbal boxing is better craic, CB is a good man for getting off the canvas every time he's knocked down, doesn't know when he's beaten, and can take the low blows!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 15, 2021, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
Now now lads verbal boxing is better craic, CB is a good man for getting off the canvas every time he's knocked down, doesn't know when he's beaten, and can take the low blows!
Such is the inflated ego of the Mc Cooey MR2.....never on the canvas, and I would refer you to the musings of Dean Swift......"The pen is .mightier than the sword".....or perhaps, He who laughs last......etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on December 15, 2021, 08:26:12 AM
Get your own room lads ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 15, 2021, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
Now now lads verbal boxing is better craic, CB is a good man for getting off the canvas every time he's knocked down, doesn't know when he's beaten, and can take the low blows!
Such is the inflated ego of the Mc Cooey MR2.....never on the canvas, and I would refer you to the musings of Dean Swift......"The pen is .mightier than the sword".....or perhaps, He who laughs last......etc.

Well don't use your own pen or stats to back it up, they have been pretty poor of late
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 15, 2021, 10:56:36 AM
Make the fight happen! Paddy Cunningham can be the promoter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2021, 11:11:27 AM
Who will do ring announcer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 15, 2021, 11:17:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 15, 2021, 08:22:28 AM






Bit like your performances tbh,, Mr Additional time
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
Now now lads verbal boxing is better craic, CB is a good man for getting off the canvas every time he's knocked down, doesn't know when he's beaten, and can take the low blows!
Such is the inflated ego of the Mc Cooey MR2.....never on the canvas, and I would refer you to the musings of Dean Swift......"The pen is .mightier than the sword".....or perhaps, He who laughs last......etc.

Well don't use your own pen or stats to back it up, they have been pretty poor of late
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 15, 2021, 11:17:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 15, 2021, 08:22:28 AM






Bit like your performances tbh,, Mr Additional time
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
Now now lads verbal boxing is better craic, CB is a good man for getting off the canvas every time he's knocked down, doesn't know when he's beaten, and can take the low blows!
Such is the inflated ego of the Mc Cooey MR2.....never on the canvas, and I would refer you to the musings of Dean Swift......"The pen is .mightier than the sword".....or perhaps, He who laughs last......etc.

Well don't use your own pen or stats to back it up, they have been pretty poor of late

Let it go let it go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 15, 2021, 01:45:09 PM
Points a good score, hear yous got gazumped! Manager agreed then got him pitched by a bigger cheque book, any truth?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 01:53:41 PM
Tir na Og's chances Saturday? Good win first day but up against a decent team. The Tyrone lads seem to be big favs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 15, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
You do know Moortown are from Tyrone

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 01:53:41 PM
Tir na Og's chances Saturday? Good win first day but up against a decent team. The Derry lads seem to be big favs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 15, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
You do know Moortown are from Tyrone

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 01:53:41 PM
Tir na Og's chances Saturday? Good win first day but up against a decent team. The Derry lads seem to be big favs

I was accused of getting Ballinderry GAA in the wrong county before, so seeing as they are so close...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on December 15, 2021, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 15, 2021, 01:45:09 PM
Points a good score, hear yous got gazumped! Manager agreed then got him pitched by a bigger cheque book, any truth?

I genuinely haven't got a clue, it's not a process I've been involved in or heard about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 16, 2021, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 15, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
You do know Moortown are from Tyrone

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 01:53:41 PM
Tir na Og's chances Saturday? Good win first day but up against a decent team. The Derry lads seem to be big favs

I was accused of getting Ballinderry GAA in the wrong county before, so seeing as they are so close...

Might as well be in Tyrone for them, lads could jog to the ground for a warm up.

In any case, not worth thinking about how thegame ended up so close to home for Moortown, as if we are good enough to beat them, won't matter what pitch we play them on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 16, 2021, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 16, 2021, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on December 15, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
You do know Moortown are from Tyrone

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2021, 01:53:41 PM
Tir na Og's chances Saturday? Good win first day but up against a decent team. The Derry lads seem to be big favs

I was accused of getting Ballinderry GAA in the wrong county before, so seeing as they are so close...

Might as well be in Tyrone for them, lads could jog to the ground for a warm up.

In any case, not worth thinking about how thegame ended up so close to home for Moortown, as if we are good enough to beat them, won't matter what pitch we play them on.


I thought the game was in MAGHERA?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 16, 2021, 04:12:30 PM
Moved to Ballinderry
Moortown probably using it as a training ground ATM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: smort on December 16, 2021, 04:12:58 PM
Game changed to Ballinderry during the week

It is interesting that a neutral venue is so close to Moortown, but think it is just a coincidence rather than anything untoward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 16, 2021, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: smort on December 16, 2021, 04:12:58 PM
Game changed to Ballinderry during the week

It is interesting that a neutral venue is so close to Moortown, but think it is just a coincidence rather than anything untoward

Yes  the likes of bellaghy or Magherafelt would be more neutral if glen wasn't playable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 16, 2021, 04:26:08 PM
Not many clubs want to give their pitches at this time of the year tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:03:43 PM
Wonder if there's a tinge of regret at not throwing an auld stand up at Dunsilly when they were building it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2021, 10:19:13 PM
SW grounds with lights
1 Ballymena
2 PG1
3 Ahoghill
4 Dunsilly
5 Cargin i think
Probably more

In Belfast NO Clubs with lights - disgrace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:37:00 PM
Try creggan, Dunloy, tir na nog, glenravel, Rasharkin,  on top of those you already named.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 16, 2021, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2021, 10:19:13 PM
SW grounds with lights
1 Ballymena
2 PG1
3 Ahoghill
4 Dunsilly
5 Cargin i think
Probably more

In Belfast NO Clubs with lights - disgrace

Same in Derry .  Not even a council pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:38:30 PM
Aghagallon??
Glenavy?
Aldergrove?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2021, 11:32:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2021, 10:19:13 PM
SW grounds with lights
1 Ballymena
2 PG1
3 Ahoghill
4 Dunsilly
5 Cargin i think
Probably more

In Belfast NO Clubs with lights - disgrace

And they still can't past the first round. What's your point?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 17, 2021, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:38:30 PM
Aghagallon??
Glenavy?
Aldergrove?

Aghagallon has had lights for about 20 years. Sure MR2's men had to train at our place during their successful years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 07:50:10 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 17, 2021, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:38:30 PM
Aghagallon??
Glenavy?
Aldergrove?

Aghagallon has had lights for about 20 years. Sure MR2's men had to train at our place during their successful years.

We'd a good scrap amongst ourselves up there lol.

I thought Lamhs had floodlights for a period, we had the posts for lighting, we never put them up, they lay in our parking area for about 10 years, if only we had have put them up, who knows what we could have achieved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 17, 2021, 08:04:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 16, 2021, 10:19:13 PM
SW grounds with lights
1 Ballymena
2 PG1
3 Ahoghill
4 Dunsilly
5 Cargin i think
Probably more

In Belfast NO Clubs with lights - disgrace
Who is the disgrace?, I'm assuming you mean the individual Belfast clubs themselves who haven't tried to update their facilities?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on December 17, 2021, 08:31:46 AM
Planning permission can be a bit of a ballache when trying to update stadium facilities in west Belfast in case some of you haven't noticed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 17, 2021, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 17, 2021, 08:31:46 AM
Planning permission can be a bit of a ballache when trying to update stadium facilities in west Belfast in case some of you haven't noticed
Fair enough just wondered who the disgrace was
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 17, 2021, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 17, 2021, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:38:30 PM
Aghagallon??
Glenavy?
Aldergrove?

Aghagallon has had lights for about 20 years. Sure MR2's men had to train at our place during their successful years.

Exhibit A as to why Aghagallon shouldn't be in SW and  :)😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 17, 2021, 09:59:34 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 17, 2021, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 17, 2021, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:38:30 PM
Aghagallon??
Glenavy?
Aldergrove?

Aghagallon has had lights for about 20 years. Sure MR2's men had to train at our place during their successful years.

Exhibit A as to why Aghagallon shouldn't be in SW and  :)😀

I've said before. We are independent! We can't understand the spides in Belfast and we can't understand all the Scottish accents in SW.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2021, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 17, 2021, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 17, 2021, 08:31:46 AM
Planning permission can be a bit of a ballache when trying to update stadium facilities in west Belfast in case some of you haven't noticed
Fair enough just wondered who the disgrace was
Nobody is a disgrace . Belfast clubs were built on the social clubs that are no longer making much money and they don't have rich backers. they do improve their facilities but not with expensive items - im thinking u just think we should work harder? as usual
We need a hand not a lecture fellow gael
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 17, 2021, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2021, 12:55:45 PM
Would grants be more difficult to get in the city? I say this with no knowledge but would every now and then hear culchies talking about the cross community element of obtaining the big grants where they scratch the back of Orangeville Cricket Club and vice versa. Is this something that is lost in the city?

Sure cities and towns get grants handed to them all over the show. 3G pitches coming out of your ears. Throw a few lights up would yis ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 17, 2021, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2021, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 17, 2021, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 17, 2021, 08:31:46 AM
Planning permission can be a bit of a ballache when trying to update stadium facilities in west Belfast in case some of you haven't noticed
Fair enough just wondered who the disgrace was
Nobody is a disgrace . Belfast clubs were built on the social clubs that are no longer making much money and they don't have rich backers. they do improve their facilities but not with expensive items - im thinking u just think we should work harder? as usual
We need a hand not a lecture fellow gael
"In Belfast NO Clubs with lights - disgrace" - I just asked what or who was the disgrace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 17, 2021, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 16, 2021, 10:03:43 PM
Wonder if there's a tinge of regret at not throwing an auld stand up at Dunsilly when they were building it?

Dunsilly seems to have been pushed ahead with no forward thinking involved.

3 pitches should have been 2, 1 with a stand.

Entrance into it should have been from the dead end road on the other side of the tracks where the hotel is and parking made available.

Access is straighforward from there and would do away with that tunnel, except for walking through.

As a centre of excellence, they really should have been looking up the road at Owenbeg and copying their example.

FFS in reality it should have been the venue for the county ground due to its central location for the whole county.

And if it is floodlights that are needed, pretty sure i saw some at an old run down pitch in west belfast that they could have taken down and used by another club instead of them being left up there to rot for the last 8 or 9 years with the rest of the stadium.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 17, 2021, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2021, 12:55:45 PM
Would grants be more difficult to get in the city? I say this with no knowledge but would every now and then hear culchies talking about the cross community element of obtaining the big grants where they scratch the back of Orangeville Cricket Club and vice versa. Is this something that is lost in the city?
no cross community angle in west belfast and that goes agains you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 17, 2021, 03:54:36 PM
Kevin Murray has crossed the Lough to Moy.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Eamon Fyfe and kevin small axed from county squad apparantly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: smort on December 17, 2021, 10:44:58 PM
How much is it in to Ballinderry tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:46:29 PM
Quote from: smort on December 17, 2021, 10:44:58 PM
How much is it in to Ballinderry tomorrow?

Tickets online via ulster GAA , ticket only I think, check their site for price
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Eamon Fyfe and kevin small axed from county squad apparantly

Not invited? Or dumped?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 18, 2021, 12:29:53 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Eamon Fyfe and kevin small axed from county squad apparantly
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Kevin small axed after winning player of the year?

Maybe he stepped away?

No chance he was dropped.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 18, 2021, 08:58:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Eamon Fyfe and kevin small axed from county squad apparantly

Not invited? Or dumped?

Let go the man says
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on December 18, 2021, 09:02:00 AM
I would love to know the background to this .Kevin Small was for me the best player in Antrim this year and the best player on the pitch when Creggan played Clann Erin .Strange call if correct!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2021, 09:04:25 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 18, 2021, 08:58:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Eamon Fyfe and kevin small axed from county squad apparantly

Not invited? Or dumped?

Let go the man says

You brought it up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2021, 09:20:12 AM
Not a chance was Small let go, or culled. Mc Ginley had the hots for him last year, played practically every minute, and has done nothing wrong since. In fact his standing has been enhanced after a good club c'ship.

This dosent add up. Re Eamonn Fyfe - not sure what's going on here either.

We have a dearth of midfielders and scoring forwards and these two are up there with our better performers in that regard!

Must be some panel this year if these two have been "dumped". Await the final panel with interest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 18, 2021, 10:15:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2021, 09:04:25 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 18, 2021, 08:58:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 17, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Eamon Fyfe and kevin small axed from county squad apparantly

Not invited? Or dumped?

Let go the man says

You brought it up?

Doubt Kevin Small cut, seem he has not reported for duty as yet......had a long year and probably more than satisfied with the reward gained.
Could not fault him taking a well earned rest.
Dunno about young Fyffe....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2021, 01:47:35 PM
Tir na Og holding their own in the first 30...

5-3 the score,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2021, 02:25:26 PM
Tight finish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2021, 02:33:15 PM
Moortown take the lead for the first time in 6th minute of injury time to win by a point!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2021, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2021, 02:33:15 PM
Moortown take the lead for the first time in 6th minute of injury time to win by a point!!

Black card at the end didn't help. Can't fault their effort.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2021, 02:50:22 PM
I'd say they'll be happy with their lot for the season
Promotion and championship
Today a bonus but will no doubt be gutted at the Manor of the defeat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 18, 2021, 03:24:52 PM
Game should have been over at half time.

Dominated play but just couldn't put the scores on the board to show it.

2nd half very scrappy which didn't suit us as we had the beating of them on football terms.

Gifted them the last two scores.

Lads can hold their heads high as they've done their town and county proud and a bit of luck today and they could have had an Ulster final to end the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 18, 2021, 04:50:59 PM
That's disappointing.  Kick of a ball from an Ulster Final.  Creggan kick of a ball from being on the tv tonight also. Im convincing myself the cup is half full.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 18, 2021, 05:30:28 PM
The similarities between the Creggan and Tir na nog games are frightening, both should have won.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2021, 07:55:54 PM
I was saying earlier that we aren't blessed with forwards - and now I'm picking up that Aghagallons Ruairi Mc Cann has been released from the squad, and Adam Loughran has removed himself from the panel. Interested to see who is actually on the panel this year!

From last years cship panel....

Niall Mc Keever Niall Delargy Mark Sweeney Paddy Cunningham Justin Crozier Adam Loughran Ruairi McCann Kevin Small. Plus Conor Small Ciaran Bradley are not involved this time round. That's quite a list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 18, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
Just watched derrygonnelly and clann eirann.
2 observations.
The winners of tomorrow's game will win in 2nd gear.
Sean Laverty looks seriously unfit!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 19, 2021, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 18, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
Just watched derrygonnelly and clann eirann.
2 observations.
The winners of tomorrow's game will win in 2nd gear.
Sean Laverty looks seriously unfit!!!!

Sean Laverty up there with the best refs in ulster RC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 18, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
Just watched derrygonnelly and clann eirann.
2 observations.
The winners of tomorrow's game will win in 2nd gear.
Sean Laverty looks seriously unfit!!!!

To be fair, your observations are poor enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 19, 2021, 10:12:48 AM
Sean Laverty is a fine referee.  The way he clearly and visibly explained to the player why he was getting a red for the shoulder to the face was top notch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
Not once did I criticise Sean's refereeing ability, I think he is by some distance the best in Antrim. I was just saying he seemed to be getting it tight physically last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
Not once did I criticise Sean's refereeing ability, I think he is by some distance the best in Antrim. I was just saying he seemed to be getting it tight physically last night.

You are questioning his fitness! Why even throw that comment in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 04:24:15 PM
I'm sure many more watched the match and thought that ref doesn't look fit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 04:25:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 04:24:15 PM
I'm sure many more watched the match and thought that ref doesn't look fit.

Yet still saying it! You must be some pup all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
What odds a belfast team winning senior championship next year ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
What odds a belfast team winning senior championship next year ?

6/1 minimum
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
What odds a belfast team winning senior championship next year ?

6/1 minimum
Who? do u think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 08:31:42 PM
Yer only hope would be the Johnnies, I'd have them 4th favourites so gotta be 8/1 or more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
What odds a belfast team winning senior championship next year ?

6/1 minimum
Who? do u think?

I'm a ref, wouldn't be fair to call things like that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 08:43:55 PM
Cargin
Creggan
Aghagallon
Johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 19, 2021, 09:00:49 PM
1/2 SW
7/4 SA

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 19, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 19, 2021, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 08:43:55 PM
Cargin
Creggan
Aghagallon
Johnnies
Lámh Dhearg & Aghagallon met twice in this year's championship. Lámh Dhearg won both games.
It's a stretch to say Aghagallon are better than them.

I wouldn't have us in the top 4 atm. And it'll be interesting to see how the new management team get on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:21:28 PM
I would have Aghagallon above city teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 19, 2021, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:21:28 PM
I would have Aghagallon above city teams.
Where do you have PG1... 3 semis in a row is it.. Surely top  4 consistency there. With the best in class S&C programme in place.... Better or Equal to some county teams and improvement expected. Some of there top performers fully committed surely top 4 or better expected?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:41:48 PM
7th
The 4 I mentioned, LD, Brigids then us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 19, 2021, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 19, 2021, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:21:28 PM
I would have Aghagallon above city teams.
Where do you have PG1... 3 semis in a row is it.. Surely top  4 consistency there. With the best in class S&C programme in place.... Better or Equal to some county teams and improvement expected. Some of there top performers fully committed surely top 4 or better expected?

And Peter Canavan making the odd appearance as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2021, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:41:48 PM
7th
The 4 I mentioned, LD, Brigids then us.

Why would you put brigids above you? That makes no sense. Three semis in a row vs never in a semi, or maybe once, but they are above you?? Are you an agent sent to dampen down bs's expectations  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on December 19, 2021, 10:06:44 PM
Maybe my glass is half empty after this season but I think Creggan would be favourites next year then Cargin , Creggan should have Quinn and Small back and a FIT Burke! while not much changes for Cargin only Mick,Justy,Close,Tomas get a year older and the youth are still a bit inexperienced for the big games .For me Creggan have to be favourites then Cargin and possibly st John's (if they commit to football) the rest are a bit behind IMO, there is little between half a dozen or so of them and on any given day they could beat each other.If new management can change this it remains to be seen but the quantity of talent needs to be there for a manager to work with and we will have to wait until next year to see if the rest can close the gap.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 19, 2021, 10:09:17 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:41:48 PM
7th
The 4 I mentioned, LD, Brigids then us.

So 3rd in league
Beat LD in quarter final
Over 2 games with St Brids Agregate +10 points
3 semis in a row
Best in class S&C
Consistent posts from PG1 posters that were under performing
Indication of dissatisfaction with management
Senior players dropping out of County squad & fully committed to PG1
JMK brought home to take things up a level

Must take up this management if the expectation is to be 7th in the pecking order and regress. Might even get a few ££*as well  Don't tell BGAAM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2021, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 19, 2021, 10:09:17 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 09:41:48 PM
7th
The 4 I mentioned, LD, Brigids then us.

So 3rd in league
Beat LD in quarter final
Over 2 games with St Brids Agregate +10 points
3 semis in a row
Best in class S&C
Consistent posts from PG1 posters that were under performing
Indication of dissatisfaction with management
Senior players dropping out of County squad & fully committed to PG1
JMK brought home to take things up a level

Must take up this management if the expectation is to be 7th in the pecking order and regress. Might even get a few ££*as well  Don't tell BGAAM

His predictions are shit, he said Creggan wouldn't be 6 points near CE!

Hopefully he stays away from the bookies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 19, 2021, 10:23:30 PM
Why do I put st brigids above us? Well let's go with the last time we met, they schooled us. We lost to Ahoghill FFS, only thing we did in championship is beat a poor LD who were understrength! No justification in being top 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 19, 2021, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 19, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
What odds a belfast team winning senior championship next year ?

Quite.lengthy in football but a tad shorter in hurling....but who can tell......lotta twists and turns probably await....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 20, 2021, 02:41:24 AM
Cargin
Creggan
LD
Aghagallon
PG1

Thats the order.

Creggan will be better with Small and Quinn back but i still think Cargin are slightly the better team. Not much between them though. 2 great teams.

Not having st brids at all, flatter to deceive. When push comes to shove id take most senior teams against them, and thats including Ahoghill (no disrespect)

St johns could come into it if they just concentrate on football but cant see that happening.

Any of those 5 teams could win it next year but obviously Cargin anf Creggan are the top 2 teams in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 20, 2021, 07:06:38 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on December 19, 2021, 10:06:44 PM
Maybe my glass is half empty after this season but I think Creggan would be favourites next year then Cargin , Creggan should have Quinn and Small back and a FIT Burke! while not much changes for Cargin only Mick,Justy,Close,Tomas get a year older and the youth are still a bit inexperienced for the big games .For me Creggan have to be favourites then Cargin and possibly st John's (if they commit to football) the rest are a bit behind IMO, there is little between half a dozen or so of them and on any given day they could beat each other.If new management can change this it remains to be seen but the quantity of talent needs to be there for a manager to work with and we will have to wait until next year to see if the rest can close the gap.

St. John's looked seriously unfit when I watched them in certain games. A few lads running about carrying a stone weight, which you don't really see at senior football anymore. A big commitment by them could maybe see them challenge. I said the other week too that Rossa have plenty of good footballers too but don't see to commit to football. 

The biggest crime for Creggan is if they don't push on and win another 1 or 2 championships. It'll be interesting to see what sort of hunger they have to go again. They seemed happy with their lot when they beat us. I believe their captain went away on holidays and only arrived back a day before the Clann Eireann game. Not great preparation for a run in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 20, 2021, 01:57:04 PM
The difference between Johnnies and other Belfast sides is they would go into any game believing they can win, not sure that mentality exists with anymore of our city dwelling chums.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 20, 2021, 02:01:45 PM
A lot on here seem very quick to ignore or write off Lamh Dearg.  Still have some very dangerous players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on December 20, 2021, 04:51:51 PM
Lamh Dearg seem to fell back a bit from where they where a few years ago ,also don't seem to have much coming through at underage ,bit of a problem for alot of city teams at the minute!.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 20, 2021, 04:57:39 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on December 20, 2021, 04:51:51 PM
Lamh Dearg seem to fell back a bit from where they where a few years ago ,also don't seem to have much coming through at underage ,bit of a problem for alot of city teams at the minute!.

Did LD not have a good few missing this year? Kevin Quinn seems to be always injured. He's the most overrated footballer ever though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 20, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 20, 2021, 04:57:39 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on December 20, 2021, 04:51:51 PM
Lamh Dearg seem to fell back a bit from where they where a few years ago ,also don't seem to have much coming through at underage ,bit of a problem for alot of city teams at the minute!.

Did LD not have a good few missing this year? Kevin Quinn seems to be always injured. He's the most overrated footballer ever though.

Bit personal there I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 03:45:05 PM
SW clubs had a clean sweep in Antrim football but a very poor return for Ulster games. 1 Victory from 4 games is.... Disappointing is not a strong enough word IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 03:45:05 PM
SW clubs had a clean sweep in Antrim football but a very poor return for Ulster games. 1 Victory from 4 games is.... Disappointing is not a strong enough word IMO

So in ulster club it's
SW - 1
Belfast - 0

Still a victory for the SW, unless my maths is wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2021, 04:26:06 PM
is their a named county panel? not many sleeps to Mckenna cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 03:45:05 PM
SW clubs had a clean sweep in Antrim football but a very poor return for Ulster games. 1 Victory from 4 games is.... Disappointing is not a strong enough word IMO

So in ulster club it's
SW - 1
Belfast - 0

Still a victory for the SW, unless my maths is wrong
HH, maths are correct. It's not a  city country thing for me I'm just giving an opinion. The much lauded GAA machines (near neighbours as well) from the SW disappeared all too soon from Ulster.  In the overall context of Ulster club games Belfast have a far healthier track record if my sums and historical knowledge are accurate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 21, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Creggan give a very good account of themselves at senior level, were the better team in the 60 mins and just ran out of legs in ET.

TNN extremy unlucky not to be in an ulster final, narrowly falling short against the favourites.

Comgalls came up against a team that many believe shouldnt have been competing at junior level.

All is not doom and gloom in the SW.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 21, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Creggan give a very good account of themselves at senior level, were the better team in the 60 mins and just ran out of legs in ET.

TNN extremy unlucky not to be in an ulster final, narrowly falling short against the favourites.

Comgalls came up against a team that many believe shouldnt have been competing at junior level.

All is not doom and gloom in the SW.

No chance Moortown are the favourites
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 21, 2021, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 21, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Creggan give a very good account of themselves at senior level, were the better team in the 60 mins and just ran out of legs in ET.

TNN extremy unlucky not to be in an ulster final, narrowly falling short against the favourites.

Comgalls came up against a team that many believe shouldnt have been competing at junior level.

All is not doom and gloom in the SW.

No chance Moortown are the favourites




Well id say steelstown are now given their impressive wins this far. But Moortown were favorites before the Ulster series began, going by the odds that i seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 08:09:29 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 21, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Creggan give a very good account of themselves at senior level, were the better team in the 60 mins and just ran out of legs in ET.

TNN extremy unlucky not to be in an ulster final, narrowly falling short against the favourites.

Comgalls came up against a team that many believe shouldnt have been competing at junior level.

All is not doom and gloom in the SW.

No chance Moortown are the favourites

They were favs against Tir na og, this other team should win final though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 22, 2021, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 03:45:05 PM
SW clubs had a clean sweep in Antrim football but a very poor return for Ulster games. 1 Victory from 4 games is.... Disappointing is not a strong enough word IMO

So in ulster club it's
SW - 1
Belfast - 0

Still a victory for the SW, unless my maths is wrong
HH, maths are correct. It's not a  city country thing for me I'm just giving an opinion. The much lauded GAA machines (near neighbours as well) from the SW disappeared all too soon from Ulster.  In the overall context of Ulster club games Belfast have a far healthier track record if my sums and historical knowledge are accurate

I would say the St Galls Ulster Select team isnt a worthwhile comparable.  This year was possibly Antrim's best chance with Ramor United and Clann Eireann the weakest teams seen in the competition for a while.  Usually no easy games.     Maybe it says more about Antrim's club level - more competitive but lesser quality?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 22, 2021, 11:13:37 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 03:45:05 PM
SW clubs had a clean sweep in Antrim football but a very poor return for Ulster games. 1 Victory from 4 games is.... Disappointing is not a strong enough word IMO
If you want to help them for next year make your own teams better, make the Antrim Championship more competitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2021, 11:50:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on December 22, 2021, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2021, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on December 21, 2021, 03:45:05 PM
SW clubs had a clean sweep in Antrim football but a very poor return for Ulster games. 1 Victory from 4 games is.... Disappointing is not a strong enough word IMO

So in ulster club it's
SW - 1
Belfast - 0

Still a victory for the SW, unless my maths is wrong
HH, maths are correct. It's not a  city country thing for me I'm just giving an opinion. The much lauded GAA machines (near neighbours as well) from the SW disappeared all too soon from Ulster.  In the overall context of Ulster club games Belfast have a far healthier track record if my sums and historical knowledge are accurate

I would say the St Galls Ulster Select team isnt a worthwhile comparable.  This year was possibly Antrim's best chance with Ramor United and Clann Eireann the weakest teams seen in the competition for a while.  Usually no easy games.     Maybe it says more about Antrim's club level - more competitive but lesser quality?

Spike, any clubs you are involved with have any outside players or managers at all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2021, 12:43:33 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!

He without sin cast the first stone  ;)

I love a good hypocrite and Spike hits that one on the head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: qub la la la on December 22, 2021, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!

Bosman rule at county level too? I hear McGeeneys 90 strong panel for Armagh includes Aghagallon talent. Is that allowed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 22, 2021, 11:17:16 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on December 22, 2021, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!

Bosman rule at county level too? I hear McGeeneys 90 strong panel for Armagh includes Aghagallon talent. Is that allowed?

What about the lad from Meath with our seniors
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2021, 11:37:44 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on December 22, 2021, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!

Bosman rule at county level too? I hear McGeeneys 90 strong panel for Armagh includes Aghagallon talent. Is that allowed?

First the ladies playtime Armagh now the footballers? Worlds gone mad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 23, 2021, 02:35:47 AM
*** Disclaimer im a SW man ***

Think its time to stop the bitterness towards galls. Thats all it is. City clubs are always going to benefit from outsiders, thats just the way it is. You think Kilmacud, Vincents etc care if they win with own club men? Look at finbarrs, Liatroim man starring for them this year, do they care? Doubtful.

Look at Brids back in the day, players from all over the shop, never hear them getting abuse on here.

Just appreciate st galls for what they were, done antrim club football proud.

Its easy to pick on st galls but all belfast clubs are at it, all you have to do is look at donal mckernan going from sarsfields to johnnies in the hurling.

St galls arent the only city club at it. Mick magill was some weapon for cargin over the years....whats his original club?

Time to let it go lads, its getting boring.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:27:47 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on December 22, 2021, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!

Bosman rule at county level too? I hear McGeeneys 90 strong panel for Armagh includes Aghagallon talent. Is that allowed?

They're only on the training panel at the minute so I wouldn't be saying they're playing for Armagh just yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 23, 2021, 08:14:13 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:27:47 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on December 22, 2021, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 22, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
Can there be a Bosman rule brought in to stop these Belfast clubs mixing and matching with players from all over Ireland. Disgrace!

Bosman rule at county level too? I hear McGeeneys 90 strong panel for Armagh includes Aghagallon talent. Is that allowed?

They're only on the training panel at the minute so I wouldn't be saying they're playing for Armagh just yet!

Who we talking about?€
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 23, 2021, 04:36:33 PM
Are they from Armagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 23, 2021, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: referee on December 23, 2021, 03:40:35 PM
Adam Loughran,Ruairi MC Cann
have those played for Antrim? if so do they not need a transfer.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 23, 2021, 08:28:41 PM
Wouldn't worry about it  Aghagallon overrated imo. Lucky run to final and comfortably beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 23, 2021, 09:13:45 PM
Belfast man, you talk utter p15h, whether it is true or not those lads would walk on to any team in Antrim and further beyond for that matter. You have been thoroughly disrespectful to St Mary's a good up and coming team and tbf they did better than your club this year.
My only problem with Aghagallon is taking the young fella there after a days work  🙄 😕
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:54 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 23, 2021, 09:13:45 PM
Belfast man, you talk utter p15h, whether it is true or not those lads would walk on to any team in Antrim and further beyond for that matter. You have been thoroughly disrespectful to St Mary's a good up and coming team and tbf they did better than your club this year.
My only problem with Aghagallon is taking the young fella there after a days work  🙄 😕

He's a wum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 23, 2021, 09:26:05 PM
Happy Christmas !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.

You may ask McGeeney
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.

You may ask McGeeney
So you can't back up your claim then
Got there in the end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.

You may ask McGeeney
So you can't back up your claim then
Got there in the end

We did. You could have just asked McGeeney in the first place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.

You may ask McGeeney
So you can't back up your claim then
Got there in the end

We did. You could have just asked McGeeney in the first place.
Don't need to, nothing to do with mcgeeney.
You're getting on as if you're in the know but when questioned on your claim you couldn't back it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.

You may ask McGeeney
So you can't back up your claim then
Got there in the end

We did. You could have just asked McGeeney in the first place.
Don't need to, nothing to do with mcgeeney.
You're getting on as if you're in the know but when questioned on your claim you couldn't back it up.

Or maybe I just don't want to say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:57:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 23, 2021, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 23, 2021, 05:00:52 PM
Those 2 lads will not entertain an Armagh panel. Just rumours!
So they're on the training panel but they won't entertain it? ;D

They're not on the training panel
You said they're on the training panel. If it's not those two, then it's someone else.

I didn't mention those 2 at all.
I didn't say you did.
It was mentioned that there was Aghagallon men in Mcgeeneys camp and you then said they're only in the training panel.
Then those two names were mentioned.
So if you weren't alluding to those two when you said it, you obviously meant someone else.

You may ask McGeeney
So you can't back up your claim then
Got there in the end

We did. You could have just asked McGeeney in the first place.
Don't need to, nothing to do with mcgeeney.
You're getting on as if you're in the know but when questioned on your claim you couldn't back it up.

Or maybe I just don't want to say
Fair enough, that's all you had to say that it was someone else ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 23, 2021, 11:12:40 PM
Lads, my bad, kevin small is still on senior panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 01:50:37 PM
Ballymena must have a few quid about them, I see Baker in there, so he is. Always thought they were serious under achievers, might be the man to turn them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 24, 2021, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 01:50:37 PM
Ballymena must have a few quid about them, I see Baker in there, so he is. Always thought they were serious under achievers, might be the man to turn them.

'Gaelic Life" reporting this with Cookstown man Jason Quinn alongside the Baker.
Tough disciplinarian, and should raise the All Saint's profile with improvement anticipated.
Will start 2022 as firm favourites for Intermediate success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 24, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
Ballymena have a serious number to pick from. I didn't realise rhe nationalist population around ballymena and in ballymena was so big until I was talking to one of their committee members a while back. Who would have the biggest pick from the South West Clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 02:31:36 PM
So they will  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 24, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
Ballymena have a serious number to pick from. I didn't realise rhe nationalist population around ballymena and in ballymena was so big until I was talking to one of their committee members a while back. Who would have the biggest pick from the South West Clubs?
I would say ballymena or randalstown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 24, 2021, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 24, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
Ballymena have a serious number to pick from. I didn't realise rhe nationalist population around ballymena and in ballymena was so big until I was talking to one of their committee members a while back. Who would have the biggest pick from the South West Clubs?
I would say ballymena or randalstown

Aldergrove would have a big number too. That primary school beside the pitch has about 1000 in it I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 02:40:37 PM
Would never have thought that about Aldergrove
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 24, 2021, 06:21:06 PM
I suppose someone should say it....

Happy Christmas to Antrim Gaaboarders. Have a good one Y'awl.

This time next year...lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 24, 2021, 07:19:08 PM
Yes, happy Christmas.  The craic and the updates on here are all part of it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 07:34:01 PM
Merry Xmas to all men (apart from ahoghill)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 24, 2021, 07:43:53 PM
Yes Happy Christmas to all and even referees  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 24, 2021, 08:09:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 24, 2021, 06:21:06 PM
I suppose someone should say it....

Happy Christmas to Antrim Gaaboarders. Have a good one Y'awl.

This time next year...lol

Rumours are you're still drunk from the big wedding!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 24, 2021, 08:10:12 PM
Happy Christmas from the independent Republic of Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 24, 2021, 11:44:07 PM
Quick recovery to  Baker, sad  to see th3 big man in hospital
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 24, 2021, 11:53:01 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 07:34:01 PM
Merry Xmas to all men (apart from ahoghill)

Agh now RC, that's a bit harsh, without st Mary's as last 30 years where would the Geraldines be??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 25, 2021, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 24, 2021, 11:53:01 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 24, 2021, 07:34:01 PM
Merry Xmas to all men (apart from ahoghill)

Agh now RC, that's a bit harsh, without st Mary's as last 30 years where would the Geraldines be??

Not the first clue what you are talking about but hey ho merry Xmas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 26, 2021, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 21, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Creggan give a very good account of themselves at senior level, were the better team in the 60 mins and just ran out of legs in ET.

TNN extremy unlucky not to be in an ulster final, narrowly falling short against the favourites.

Comgalls came up against a team that many believe shouldnt have been competing at junior level.

All is not doom and gloom in the SW.

Not only unlucky but TNN kicking themselves.

Better team on the day, just maybe that Antrim inferiority complex stopped then getting over the line.

Game was there for the taking but didn't have the confidence to go and take the win on by a big margin and it cost them.

Creggan were just missing a star forward. Good solid team that will get them so far but now they need to get a scoring forward par excellence, maybe one of the injured players this year will do it for them next year.

Happy Christmas to all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 26, 2021, 10:51:36 AM
What's story with ulster minor championship? Used to love jumping in a black taxi watching the matches and going into St. Pauls for a few pints after to talk some rubbish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 26, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 26, 2021, 10:51:36 AM
What's story with ulster minor championship? Used to love jumping in a black taxi watching the matches and going into St. Pauls for a few pints after to talk some rubbish
And now you get to talk rubbish on here for free 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 26, 2021, 12:29:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 26, 2021, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 26, 2021, 10:51:36 AM
What's story with ulster minor championship? Used to love jumping in a black taxi watching the matches and going into St. Pauls for a few pints after to talk some rubbish
And now you get to talk rubbish on here for free 😜
Yes ! Covid has driven me on tp the web - happy christmas county cousin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Calm Down on December 26, 2021, 08:40:35 PM
Quote from: referee on December 24, 2021, 06:03:46 PM
Would I be right in saying baker got hunted from draperstown and done a great job taking Glenullin to junior football,his own club if I'm not mistaken,you'd have thought he would've stayed around to take them back up to at least intermedtate,but as RC said must be the £££

Wouldn't get too excited about Baker lads, heard he was rushed to hospital with his heart late last week, not sure of management will be for him this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 26, 2021, 10:24:55 PM
Well I hope he gets well soon, football and management cones way down the list when your health is compromised.

Not sure Calm downs post is a piss take/sarcasm or just daft
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on December 27, 2021, 01:13:10 AM
Calm Down banned for naming another poster.

Several posts deleted from that point onward.

If Antrim Football and Hurling posts continue in this downward manner, I'll lock both threads for a few days.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 27, 2021, 02:55:55 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 26, 2021, 10:51:36 AM
What's story with ulster minor championship? Used to love jumping in a black taxi watching the matches and going into St. Pauls for a few pints after to talk some rubbish

St. Paul's & Creggan tournaments cancelled since COVID. Would be wary of ulster council trying to take them over when this pandemic has run its course, great money earners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 27, 2021, 04:49:20 AM
Baker is some man for one man. Will no doubt have the all saints flying.

Great appointment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2021, 12:20:20 PM
No word of the mckenna cup squad ? Not a loT of action on the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 27, 2021, 06:17:41 PM
I have heard the panel is quite small I.e. mcginley doesn't want a massive extended panel. Pros and cons I suppose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 09:12:55 PM
Who takes the county u20 footballers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 28, 2021, 10:19:16 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 27, 2021, 12:20:20 PM
No word of the mckenna cup squad ? Not a loT of action on the pitch

Panel for the Mc Kenna cup is established......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 10:35:01 PM
Yeah, was walking the dog's one day  ;) and seen them 'training'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 30, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
Any news on the mckenna cup panel lads? Many new faces?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 30, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
Any news on the mckenna cup panel lads? Many new faces?

Aye
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 30, 2021, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 30, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
Any news on the mckenna cup panel lads? Many new faces?

Aye



Informative, cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 04:44:02 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 30, 2021, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 30, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
Any news on the mckenna cup panel lads? Many new faces?

Aye

CB would be the main man with the names, I've only seen one outing.


Informative, cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 30, 2021, 04:56:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 04:44:02 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 30, 2021, 04:14:03 PM


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: geezer on December 30, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
Any news on the mckenna cup panel lads? Many new faces?

Aye

CB would be the main man with the names, I've only seen one outing.


Informative, cheers.

Not until I get the nod........sorry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2021, 05:01:25 PM
I wouldn't be blabbering out names, I stick to the rules, others though have no problems  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 30, 2021, 08:20:30 PM
Is there a media ban on the McKenna cup squad ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 30, 2021, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 30, 2021, 08:20:30 PM
Is there a media ban on the McKenna cup squad ?
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Nope......as far as I know......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2021, 09:32:13 PM
Jaysus this is a tough conversation. Anyone willing to share the squad or is it a big surprise??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 30, 2021, 11:25:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 30, 2021, 09:32:13 PM
Jaysus this is a tough conversation. Anyone willing to share the squad or is it a big surprise??

It's a need to know basis and we don't need to know clearly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 30, 2021, 11:38:58 PM
Baker and quinn present at all saints players meeting, the stories of his ill Health seemed to have been blown out of proportion thank goodness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 30, 2021, 11:43:16 PM
Down v Antrim in newly and Antrim v Donegal in Portglenone , says corrigan on the fixtures but heard it was going to be played at casements
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 30, 2021, 11:25:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn link=topic=21.msg2094837#msg2094837 date=164089993


Jaysus this is a tough conversation. Anyone willing to share the squad or is it a big surprise??
/quote]

It's a need to know basis and we don't need to know clearly.

Correct PJ, I am aware of a number of the those in the squad but have not received official notification and speaking to one such on a regular basis assured positively no veil of secrecy exists......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 09:51:30 AM
Tell them nothing lads. Touts out!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 09:51:30 AM
Tell them nothing lads. Touts out!!

Long gone from the banks of the Bann....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 31, 2021, 03:18:55 PM
New additions to the panel....
Seamy McGarry, Dominic McEnhill, Darren & Barry Mc Cormick, Paddy Mc Aleer, Marty Johnston, Jamie Mc Cann, are a few names I've heard that have been added.

Looking forward to welcoming Tir Conaill to the Bannside town for the McKenna cup fixture
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 31, 2021, 03:18:55 PM
New additions to the panel....
Seamy McGarry, Dominic McEnhill, Darren & Barry Mc Cormick, Paddy Mc Aleer, Marty Johnston, Jamie Mc Cann, are a few names I've heard that have been added.

Looking forward to welcoming Tir Conaill to the Bannside town for the McKenna cup fixture
A few more new kids on the block, Jamie Gribbin, Jamie Mc Cann, Eoin Hynds and Ronan Boyle.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2021, 03:52:58 PM
is that more Cargin lads at long last?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 31, 2021, 04:05:37 PM
Good to see Jamie Gribben back, hopefully he will get an injury free run. Big Pat there as well, be great to see this enormous potential deliver at county senior level. Great to see Paddy Mc Aleer back too....The panel looks strong and by all accounts the pre season has been good. Plenty to look forward too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 31, 2021, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.

Where can I see the full list Jim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 31, 2021, 04:05:37 PM
Good to see Jamie Gribben back, hopefully he will get an injury free run. Big Pat there as well, be great to see this enormous potential deliver at county senior level. Great to see Paddy Mc Aleer back too....The panel looks strong and by all accounts the pre season has been good. Plenty to look forward too.
Jamie did endure a challenging 2021 BS....had major surgery and only played a handful of games.....
Better times ahead......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.
Five from Cargin.....you do the maths....JS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2021, 09:11:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.
Five from Cargin.....you do the maths....JS
who take Toome now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on December 31, 2021, 09:22:52 PM
I'd say they will throw a few mccooeys in too just to keep county board sweet :) :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 31, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 31, 2021, 09:22:52 PM
I'd say they will throw a few mccooeys in too just to keep county board sweet :) :)
Roger that Roger! Happy New Year lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 11:28:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.
Five from Cargin.....you do the maths....JS

And the management team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 11:34:27 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 11:28:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.
Five from Cargin.....you do the maths....JS

And the management team
No idea what that means.....
Cargin have no personnel on management.....maybe one involved with minors...
And a Happy New Year to all.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 01, 2022, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 11:28:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 31, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 31, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Saw the full list there. Basically Cargin plus a few others.
Five from Cargin.....you do the maths....JS

And the management team
Poor stuff right there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 01, 2022, 06:44:53 PM
Mcginley doesn't care what club u are from . Impressed with him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 02, 2022, 07:23:21 PM
Awful news coming out of Portglenone about one of their young players, Connor Marron. RIP and condolences to everyone in the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 02, 2022, 07:47:43 PM
Shocking just Shocking JS. Thoughts and prayers with family and friends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 02, 2022, 09:31:16 PM
Serious bad news. God love his family and friends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 02, 2022, 09:45:37 PM
Parish numb today with the news. Conor was a good prospect who would have been challenging for a senior jersey this year. His Dad Fergal was club chairman about a decade ago. Sad house tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on January 02, 2022, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 02, 2022, 09:45:37 PM
Parish numb today with the news. Conor was a good prospect who would have been challenging for a senior jersey this year. His Dad Fergal was club chairman about a decade ago. Sad house tonight.

Devastating news. Absolutely heartbreaking for all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 02, 2022, 10:09:12 PM
Quote from: ned on January 02, 2022, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 02, 2022, 09:45:37 PM
Parish numb today with the news. Conor was a good prospect who would have been challenging for a senior jersey this year. His Dad Fergal was club chairman about a decade ago. Sad house tonight.

Devastating news. Absolutely heartbreaking for all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 02, 2022, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin link=topic=21.msg2095165#msg2095165 hodate=1641161352
Quote from: ned on January 02, 2022, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 02, 2022, 09:45:37 PM
Parish numb today with the news. Conor was a good prospect who would have been challenging for a senior jersey this year. His Dad Fergal was club chairman about a decade ago. Sad house tonight.

Devastating news. Absolutely heartbreaking for all involved.

Really terrible news to hear that awful news this morning that a young life had been ended in such tragic circumstances.

Did not know Conor, but I do know his dad Fergal who is a real gentleman.

May Conor's gentle soul Rest in Peace, and Mary Queen of the Gael comfort his heartbroken family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 02, 2022, 10:30:23 PM
Puts all the arguing and slabbering on here into perspective doesn't it
Didn't know the man either personally but knew his parents well
Sad beyond belief
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 03, 2022, 01:19:57 AM
Agh lads , my cub and young Fudgie were good mates, can't believe this has happened, my heart is breaking for his mum, dad and sister
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 03, 2022, 10:02:56 AM
Very sad.  I'm sure Casements will put their arms around the family, great club that they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2022, 10:21:00 AM
That poor club has suffered a lot over the last number of years with tragic young deaths :( RIP to the poor young fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 03, 2022, 04:13:14 PM
Awful news. Condolences to his family, freinds and all at PG1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 06, 2022, 02:34:40 PM
Is the McKenna cup game on v Donegal in PG1?
It will be nice to get out to our games again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 06, 2022, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 06, 2022, 02:34:40 PM
Is the McKenna cup game on v Donegal in PG1?
It will be nice to get out to our games again.

yep , portglenone next week. Was up at jordnastown on tuesday night watch the mcgurk cup, nothing nice about that starvin i can tell you, only warmed up today  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 06, 2022, 03:11:03 PM
Be sure to wrap up warm then 😁
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 06, 2022, 09:36:07 PM
I see there were no Aghagallon men playing for Armagh tonight  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on January 06, 2022, 09:40:28 PM
Has anyone seen a list of 2022 panel yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on January 10, 2022, 05:07:44 PM
No one is allowed to know it seems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 10, 2022, 06:08:32 PM
We are lining out with 15 and mcginley is the manager all else is a secret
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2022, 06:10:26 PM
If you turn up at the game or if it's ppv we'll all know! I love surprises
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2022, 06:22:24 PM
Down are rebuilding and have a lot of new faces - I think they had nine of last year's under twenty's on the pitch against Donegal. I'd expect Enda to give it a lash and try and win the game. Heading down, tickets bought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 10, 2022, 06:37:27 PM
Dare i ask, but any changes to captaincy? Id go for mcaleese, never shies away from a challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2022, 07:09:58 PM
Aye Dermot's a great lad. Sometimes too brave for his own good! No idea, see who goes up for the toss tomorrow lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 10, 2022, 08:54:48 PM
There is no ban on disclosing panel...having spoken to members of it...

I am sure the county PRO has a copy of it...team for the trip to Newry will be named soon....

I
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 10, 2022, 08:54:59 PM
Love watching mcaleese play, no fear, a highly skilled footballer and is very level headed. Would be my candidate for the role.

Hopefully big shivers gets a chance to make his mark. Could be Antrims talisman for years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 10, 2022, 10:01:40 PM
I'd give the captaincy to someone from Belfast, keep them interested  ;) 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 11, 2022, 01:46:23 PM
Here's hoping for continued progression this season starting with a good performance tonight. No reason we can't be winning this one, none whatsoever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 11, 2022, 01:46:23 PM
Here's hoping for continued progression this season starting with a good performance tonight. No reason we can't be winning this one, none whatsoever.

Did you see the 'training game' v these two?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 01:57:13 PM
Any team news? I see down have released their team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 11, 2022, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 11, 2022, 01:46:23 PM
Here's hoping for continued progression this season starting with a good performance tonight. No reason we can't be winning this one, none whatsoever.
Mckenna Cup more about prep for league campaign
Reasons for Optimism?
Last year Div 4 team wins 3 games by a point to gain promotion v's
Last year Div 2 team which staves of relegation

Stenghth of teams put out will dictate but both teams with a full hand would you not say there is still a bit of a gap?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 11, 2022, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 11, 2022, 01:46:23 PM
Here's hoping for continued progression this season starting with a good performance tonight. No reason we can't be winning this one, none whatsoever.

Strong enough Down team, minus UU and Kilcoo though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2022, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 10, 2022, 10:01:40 PM
I'd give the captaincy to someone from Belfast, keep them interested  ;) 😉
how many championships have pg1 won ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 11, 2022, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 11, 2022, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 10, 2022, 10:01:40 PM
I'd give the captaincy to someone from Belfast, keep them interested  ;) 😉
how many championships have pg1 won ?



You took the bait
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 11, 2022, 03:14:24 PM
Ronan Boyle St Brigids gets his first start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Have you the team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 11, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
A good young prospect he is as well. Looking forward to seeing him and the other debutants later on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 11, 2022, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Have you the team?

No, was talking to a player there, think young Gribben from Toome getting his first start too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 11, 2022, 03:47:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 11, 2022, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Have you the team?

No, was talking to a player there, think young Gribben from Toome getting his first start too

Jamie G is starting and Big Pat Shivers also makes his senior debut.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 11, 2022, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 11, 2022, 03:47:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 11, 2022, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
Have you the team?

No, was talking to a player there, think young Gribben from Toome getting his first start too

Jamie G is starting and Big Pat Shivers also makes his senior debut.......
McEnhill Rossa and Jamie McCann Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 05:14:28 PM
Team on Facebook now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 11, 2022, 05:40:03 PM
Strong team with good quality on the bench.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 11, 2022, 05:52:36 PM
Healy captain again. A good SW man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 11, 2022, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: geezer on January 11, 2022, 05:52:36 PM
Healy captain again. A good SW man.

Yeroooo  😀 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 11, 2022, 09:12:04 PM
Not bad first half, some good passages of play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2022, 09:53:52 PM
Good win.

Only McKenna cup but not that often we win games like this so hope it's a good sign for the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 11, 2022, 09:54:39 PM
Happy days well done Aontroim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 11, 2022, 09:57:17 PM
Good win, Down understrength but lots to be positive. Murray outstanding, Mick classy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 11, 2022, 09:58:32 PM
Are we in division 3 this year in the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 11, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
Good win in alien Newry....Jamie Gribbin looks the part...struggled last year but fighting fit again after surgery..
Mick is, and always will be a class act...
Bench strong and life in div 3 may well prove within our capabilities....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 11, 2022, 10:07:19 PM
Decent win. Controlled the games for the most part. Poor final ball at times but all in all a positive performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 11:31:11 PM
Decent spread of clubs on that team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 11, 2022, 11:34:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 11, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
Good win in alien Newry....Jamie Gribbin looks the part...struggled last year but fighting fit again after surgery..
Mick is, and always will be a class act...
Bench strong and life in div 3 may well prove within our capabilities....
Yes that's the aim, pick up 6 or 8 points in Division 3 and get a foothold. One swallow and all that, but winning in Newry is a good start and it should be a confidence booster for the lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 12, 2022, 12:14:19 AM
Good to win a match at Pairc Esler, albeit against a Down team very much in transitional mode. Some great individual performances, Ricky superb at the back, Michael controlling the game, and special mention to Jamie Gribben who had a good hour, and got back to make a very important intervention late in the game when Down were closing in on goal. Satisfying start to the year, a good performance on Saturday will set us up nicely for the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 12, 2022, 07:53:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 12, 2022, 12:14:19 AM
Good to win a match at Pairc Esler, albeit against a Down team very much in transitional mode. Some great individual performances, Ricky superb at the back, Michael controlling the game, and special mention to Jamie Gribben who had a good hour, and got back to make a very important intervention late in the game when Down were closing in on goal. Satisfying start to the year, a good performance on Saturday will set us up nicely for the league.
I thought McGinley got the balance right, 4 debutants (who all did well) placed in alongside experienced players. Plenty of changes made throughout. Paddy McBride classy throughout along with Mick McCann (Down style of play really suited his role). A good starting point nothing more, wins in this competition for Antrim few and far between so has to be welcomed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 12, 2022, 09:59:53 AM
Looking forward to getting the auld stewarding bib and seeing all my pals from here queued at the chip van at the weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 12, 2022, 10:31:38 AM
decent win there. As was said previously, Antrim dont have a great track record in this competition especially against higher grade teams so a win most welcome.  Will give the debutants a good lift and a bit of belief that Div 3 is manageable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 12, 2022, 11:40:59 AM
Nothing at all to fear in Division 3. Expect us to finish with a safe 8 points and consolidate recent progress. Looks like good competition for jerseys all over the pitch too, will ensure there is zero complacency in the squad.

Don't think Down were anything like recent Down teams, let's not get carried away. I'd settle for a very competitive performance on Saturday, regardless of any result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 12, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
Is the weekend pay at the gate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 12, 2022, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 11:31:11 PM
Decent spread of clubs on that team

No room at the Inn for the Armagh lads though.
.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2022, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 12, 2022, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 11:31:11 PM
Decent spread of clubs on that team

No room at the Inn for the Armagh lads though.
.

That's unfortunate considering they reached the final, at least the camogs are being looked after by Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 12, 2022, 01:40:24 PM
Good start and IMO its the best squad we have had in a while, a number of experienced players and talented younger players being mixed in. Eraly doors tho.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 12, 2022, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 12, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
Is the weekend pay at the gate?

Tickets are online via universe app
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 12, 2022, 04:32:55 PM
Surely Eunan Walsh is on the panel?
He was the best player on the pitch by a country mile in a few of their Club Championship games last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 12, 2022, 04:46:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 12, 2022, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2022, 11:31:11 PM
Decent spread of clubs on that team

No room at the Inn for the Armagh lads though.
.
Only two St Mary's men on the panel, Eunan Walsh injured.and Luke Mulholland on holiday.

Two as selected left the panel and one dropped.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 13, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
Club league starting on Sunday 6th of March
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 13, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
Club league starting on Sunday 6th of March

There will be ones on looking fixtures now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2022, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 13, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
Club league starting on Sunday 6th of March

There will be ones on looking fixtures now!
Tight for refs to shift the Turkey weight MR2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2022, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 13, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
Club league starting on Sunday 6th of March

There will be ones on looking fixtures now!
Tight for refs to shift the Turkey weight MR2?

Yes, I'm lucky enough with a few challenge games before Xmas and college games after Xmas but turkey, beer wine, and wine hasn't helped! 

Add in getting new kitchen and eating microwave dinners! So Shifting the weight will take a month or 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2022, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2022, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 13, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
Club league starting on Sunday 6th of March

There will be ones on looking fixtures now!
Tight for refs to shift the Turkey weight MR2?

Yes, I'm lucky enough with a few challenge games before Xmas and college games after Xmas but turkey, beer wine, and wine hasn't helped! 

Add in getting new kitchen and eating microwave dinners! So Shifting the weight will take a month or 6
LOL ! i wouldnt fancy those player fit tight tops glad they didnt have them in my day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 13, 2022, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2022, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 13, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
Club league starting on Sunday 6th of March

There will be ones on looking fixtures now!
Tight for refs to shift the Turkey weight MR2?

Yes, I'm lucky enough with a few challenge games before Xmas and college games after Xmas but turkey, beer wine, and wine hasn't helped! 

Add in getting new kitchen and eating microwave dinners! So Shifting the weight will take a month or 6
Getting the excuses in early.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 13, 2022, 09:55:16 PM
Do referees know the games they're doing when the fixtures are released?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 13, 2022, 09:55:16 PM
Do referees know the games they're doing when the fixtures are released?

No, I'll be probably up the country, Casements or Cargin for the craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 13, 2022, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 13, 2022, 09:55:16 PM
I'll get you parked mate.

Do referees know the games they're doing when the fixtures are released?

No, I'll be probably up the country, Casements or Cargin for the craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 10:31:52 PM
It's ok, I've parked car before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 13, 2022, 10:49:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 10:31:52 PM
It's ok, I've parked car before
If only you were as quick on the pitch  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on January 13, 2022, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2022, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 13, 2022, 09:55:16 PM
Do referees know the games they're doing when the fixtures are released?

No, I'll be probably up the country, Casements or Cargin for the craic

No thank you😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on January 14, 2022, 12:11:30 PM
Is there league promotion and relegation this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on January 14, 2022, 12:16:50 PM
Former player Antrim Owen Gallagher making his debut for Galway tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 14, 2022, 02:06:37 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 14, 2022, 12:16:50 PM
Former player Antrim Owen Gallagher making his debut for Galway tonight


Fair play to him. Always liked him as a player. Very powerful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2022, 09:40:51 PM
Is the team announced for tomorrow yet ? Maybe that doesn't happen these days ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 14, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
Caught most of Galway match on tg4  Gallagher very impressive!! Is he living there long term ie partner or studying?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 14, 2022, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 14, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
Caught most of Galway match on tg4 young Gallagher very impressive!! Is he living there long term ie partner or studying?
He went to college in Dublin for a couple of years and then switched to do medicine in Galway. He is finished and is a junior Doctor  I would guess he is about 27/28ish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 14, 2022, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: Flanker on January 14, 2022, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 14, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
Caught most of Galway match on tg4 young Gallagher very impressive!! Is he living there long term ie partner or studying?
He went to college in Dublin for a couple of years and then switched to do medicine in Galway. He is finished and is a junior Doctor  I would guess he is about 27/28ish
Fine baller
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 15, 2022, 02:16:59 AM
Donegal  bringing all the bing guns I see. Murphy and Mcnellis on the bench, but still there to call on while paddy Mcb starts, big task for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2022, 08:30:56 AM
Funny I'd heard that Mc Neillus isn't on the squad this year. Looking forward to this, no reason we cannot be competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 15, 2022, 04:17:32 PM
Antrim certainly look on the right path, giving Donegal plenty to think about.....
Look in forward to the league.....we certainly are on the upward....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 15, 2022, 05:09:55 PM
Good set up at portglenone.

Will the county final be played there if the trend of all SW finals continue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2022, 05:41:12 PM
Round Portglenone the talk is not about where the county final should be played, but can Casements be playing in one, lol. Credit to groundsman Mickey Kelly for having pitch in great shape. Club committee looking at third phase expansion, possibly to include a stand (seating area).


On football front, Enda and co making continued progress. Drawing with Donegal with 6 mins left on the clock is a worthy effort and a clear sign that continued progress is being made. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 15, 2022, 06:11:50 PM
Lots of cargin players committing to county is a big difference imo. Hasn't happened in long time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 15, 2022, 06:36:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 15, 2022, 05:41:12 PM
Round Portglenone the talk is not about where the county final should be played, but can Casements be playing in one, lol. Credit to groundsman Mickey Kelly for having pitch in great shape. Club committee looking at third phase expansion, possibly to include a stand (seating area).


On football front, Enda and co making continued progress. Drawing with Donegal with 6 mins left on the clock is a worthy effort and a clear sign that continued progress is being made. Well done to all involved.

Great set up yes, but the pitch looked like a skating rink bannside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2022, 06:49:26 PM
Firm underfoot conditions (high specification of stones, sand and drainage) with a wet surface may result in some slippage, but the upside was the pace of the game for the time of year. Generally speaking the club prefers to close during the winter months to allow it to reach springtime in perfect condition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 15, 2022, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 15, 2022, 06:49:26 PM
Firm underfoot conditions (high specification of stones, sand and drainage) with a wet surface may result in some slippage, but the upside was the pace of the game for the time of year. Generally speaking the club prefers to close during the winter months to allow it to reach springtime in perfect condition.

Good luck with that
I reckon it's going to be 12 month season for that place now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 15, 2022, 07:57:52 PM
Mighty impressed with Antrim today, even though it was pre season and Donegal held us at arms length it would seem all the squad knew the game plan and played to it. Long time since that happened! On a side note, was stewarding today and got close to Donegal team, absolute gentlemen and carry themselves very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 15, 2022, 08:14:59 PM
While watching Donegal warm up I feared for Antrim, Donegal had some serious big units. But Antrim weren't found wanting on the physical side with a serious amount of turnovers and hard hits. They are set up very well. I stood behind Antrim dugout and impressed with the management teams style and organisation.
Great setup at Portglenone as usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2022, 09:21:58 PM
Agree RC, Donegal held us at arms length, but with Five minutes left we were level...and who knows! Some good individual performances, and overall a very creditable performance. Brewster PK this night two weeks.....that when it starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 16, 2022, 12:31:25 AM
Never seen the game today but a respectable result. Usually we get tanked against the bigger teams no matter what the competition. Seemed to be in the game all the way. I know its mckenna cup but positive all the same.

Hopefully the lads can carry their form into the league and no reason why we cant have a proper rattle at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NotedObserver on January 16, 2022, 12:57:41 AM
Who impressed for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 16, 2022, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on January 16, 2022, 12:57:41 AM
Who impressed for Antrim?

The squad impressed, made a total eleven changes in the game and no visible weak links at conclusion.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 16, 2022, 05:47:28 PM
I know it's not Antrim related but jeez that ulster final was a hard watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 16, 2022, 06:14:33 PM
Brutal stuff. Kilcoo were brilliant though, a few levels above. They will be hard beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2022, 07:31:44 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 16, 2022, 05:47:28 PM
I know it's not Antrim related but jeez that ulster final was a hard watch.

And our clubs are not even close to getting to that level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 16, 2022, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2022, 07:31:44 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 16, 2022, 05:47:28 PM
I know it's not Antrim related but jeez that ulster final was a hard watch.

And our clubs are not even close to getting to that level

Not often I agree with you!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 17, 2022, 08:37:10 AM
Football leagues start 6th March, Hurling the end of April. Very early start but suppose its the same for everyone so no biggie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 18, 2022, 11:44:39 AM
Quote from: referee on January 18, 2022, 11:40:41 AM
Reading a bit when Benny Crossan said he interviewed E MC Finley on the heavy sod off portglenone pitch,I'd imagine portglenone pitch was in great shape and not heavy at all,looked in good shape in the pics I seen

Was at the game, alot of slipping. I actually have noticed in a number of games during the season that their pitch can be slippy at times. Maybe it wearing wrong boots?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 19, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
Gaelic Life are reporting Chris Kerr is leaving Galls for Ballymacnab......
A gentleman on his way .......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 19, 2022, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 19, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
Gaelic Life are reporting Chris Kerr is leaving Galls for Ballymacnab......
A gentleman on his way .......

Sure he's living down there. Don't blame him at this stage of his career.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2022, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 19, 2022, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 19, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
Gaelic Life are reporting Chris Kerr is leaving Galls for Ballymacnab......
A gentleman on his way .......

Sure he's living down there. Don't blame him at this stage of his career.

Players leaving clubs and going to other clubs! My god the selfish B'stards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 19, 2022, 01:49:40 PM
Chris is a good lad, probably the stick he got from so called St galls supporters during the cargin game made his mind up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 19, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
I would say it is the lure of the old pg1 management that has drawn him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 19, 2022, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2022, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 19, 2022, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 19, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
Gaelic Life are reporting Chris Kerr is leaving Galls for Ballymacnab......
A gentleman on his way .......

Sure he's living down there. Don't blame him at this stage of his career.

Players leaving clubs and going to other clubs! My god the selfish B'stards

I'm shocked and disappointed with u MR2 to treat a player from your own club with such sustain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2022, 01:17:01 PM
St Brigids GAC
"It is with sadness that we announce the passing of Fionntan McGarvey, a member of our U20 & Senior Football Panel."

That's awful  :( I don't know the fella but under 20. Awful. RIP.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 20, 2022, 03:53:14 PM
RIP  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 20, 2022, 07:22:50 PM
Deepest sympathy to the young lads family and friends and to all at Naomh Brid. RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 20, 2022, 08:49:03 PM
Murder inquiry opened, assaulted just after Xmas. Very sad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2022, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2022, 08:49:03 PM
Murder inquiry opened, assaulted just after Xmas. Very sad

Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!

I'd no idea of the nature of this young lads death, I darn't ask, but this is desperate!

God love his family 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 20, 2022, 08:58:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2022, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2022, 08:49:03 PM
Murder inquiry opened, assaulted just after Xmas. Very sad

Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!

I'd no idea of the nature of this young lads death, I darn't ask, but this is desperate!

God love his family

Seems to be boxing night/early morning outside the Devenish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2022, 08:59:24 PM
That poor family. Probably sitting in hospital from the 27th of December  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2022, 09:24:17 PM
Awful news. Tragic for the family & friends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 21, 2022, 09:19:29 AM
Terrible news. RIP.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 21, 2022, 09:44:46 AM
Horrendous news - Awfully sad. RIP.

Two lives ruined.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 21, 2022, 09:55:32 AM
RIP. Terrible news.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 21, 2022, 10:18:58 AM
A savage blow to a family steeped in our Association....May his good soul Rest in Peace and Mary Queen of the Gael comfort his grief stricken family...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 21, 2022, 09:46:02 PM
Just awful. Rest in peace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 22, 2022, 05:06:33 PM
Only a friendly,  but Antrim had an easy win over Sligo today.....finished well clear of the Yeats county men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 23, 2022, 02:37:46 AM
Indeed CB. Further evidence of wellbeing in the camp. Two points from Brewster Pk would be another significant signpost. Let's get some support down to Enniskillen for this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 23, 2022, 02:53:44 AM
Division 3 will be tight but absolutely no reason we cant get promoted. Nothing to fear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 23, 2022, 12:43:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 23, 2022, 02:37:46 AM
Indeed CB. Further evidence of wellbeing in the camp. Two points from Brewster Pk would be another significant signpost. Let's get some support down to Enniskillen for this one.

You seem onboard with the management this year Bannside. More confidence in them now? I hear PG1 are all guns blazing and everyone fully committed for the year!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 23, 2022, 01:54:22 PM
Yes definitely JS. I think there's good progress being made to be fair. Fitness levels definitely better too. Management starting to find their feet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 23, 2022, 03:33:55 PM
I heard our former gaelfast chief has defected to county Down... big surprise as though he wa dye in the wool saffron
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2022, 04:07:50 PM
Who? Paul Donnelly with the camogie team? That is months old if you mean him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 23, 2022, 06:39:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2022, 04:07:50 PM
Who? Paul Donnelly with the camogie team? That is months old if you mean him.
Yes I do - I don't get out much these days ! you surprised?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2022, 06:45:13 PM
By you not getting out?? Not really based on posts  ;)

(I don't know much about Paul Donnelly tbh. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest he is away to down. Only thing I would say is I hope he isn't as good as their last manager / coach and Antrim can finally get one over on them  ;D)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 24, 2022, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 22, 2022, 05:06:33 PM
Only a friendly,  but Antrim had an easy win over Sligo today.....finished well clear of the Yeats county men.

Did big Pat play, came off with an injury last week in Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 24, 2022, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 24, 2022, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 22, 2022, 05:06:33 PM
Only a friendly,  but Antrim had an easy win over Sligo today.....finished well clear of the Yeats county men.

Did big Pat play, came off with an injury last week in Portglenone.

Yep, Pat started on the bench but had a good second half.

Mc Ginley employed his bench to the full again and looked strong all over.

Tougher tests to follow, but the Saffrons look fit and ready to make their mark....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bystander on January 25, 2022, 09:05:02 PM
On a different note, anyone know if BBC Radio Uladh will be broadcasting National League games? Always unsatisfactory that they were relegated to MW rather than FM for other sports - but now the station doesn't seem to be broadcast on MW at all any longer. Will we have to rely on RTE for coverage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 25, 2022, 09:52:30 PM
The key to the Fermanagh game could be if Derrygonnelly lads are playing. I'd say like ourselves the league is the only competition of importance this year for Fermanagh, should be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2022, 10:50:40 PM
Will be very interesting to see the team that lines out, and where management now see the pecking order. Have any of the newcomers done enough to break their way into a starting berth? Looking forward to heading down on Saturday night. Two early league points definitely there for the taking if we put our best foot forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 26, 2022, 01:19:40 AM
Quote from: bystander on January 25, 2022, 09:05:02 PM
On a different note, anyone know if BBC Radio Uladh will be broadcasting National League games? Always unsatisfactory that they were relegated to MW rather than FM for other sports - but now the station doesn't seem to be broadcast on MW at all any longer. Will we have to rely on RTE for coverage?
Sometimes, you will find the GAA coverage on Radio Foyle digitial;/ DAB radio.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on January 26, 2022, 01:09:06 PM
What way is the injuries clearing up in the squad for the weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2022, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on January 26, 2022, 01:09:06 PM
What way is the injuries clearing up in the squad for the weekend?

Several returned from injury but nothing serious I hear.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2022, 04:24:26 PM
If Eunan Walsh Declan Lynch Patrick Mc Aleer and Marty Johnston are all fit for selection the competition for a jersey on that half back line is serious. That's the way you want it though!

I haven't just managed to get my head around the Adam Loughran situation  and the reason he is not in the squad. 100% one of the best forwards in the county, I see he played for UCD last night.

County cannot be dispensing with talent like that without a good reason...imo anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 26, 2022, 04:58:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 26, 2022, 04:24:26 PM
If Eunan Walsh Declan Lynch Patrick Mc Aleer and Marty Johnston are all fit for selection the competition for a jersey on that half back line is serious. That's the way you want it though!

I haven't just managed to get my head around the Adam Loughran situation  and the reason he is not in the squad. 100% one of the best forwards in the county, I see he played for UCD last night.

County cannot be dispensing with talent like that without a good reason...imo anyway!

Why is Adam out of squad Bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2022, 05:00:40 PM
I stand open to correction, but I heard he was surplus to requirements, ie - didn't make the cut.

If there is an alternative reason I'd be quite glad to find out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2022, 05:15:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 26, 2022, 04:24:26 PM
If Eunan Walsh Declan Lynch Patrick Mc Aleer and Marty Johnston are all fit for selection the competition for a jersey on that half back line is serious. That's the way you want it though!

I haven't just managed to get my head around the Adam Loughran situation  and the reason he is not in the squad. 100% one of the best forwards in the county, I see he played for UCD last night.

County cannot be dispensing with talent like that without a good reason...imo anyway!

Adam Loughran was never "surplus to requirements", withdrew from the squad to concentrate on his studies.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2022, 07:03:35 PM
I'd be happier with that CB ..if that's the case..at least that was Adams call (if true). I had heard a different version - always best to check out the facts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2022, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 26, 2022, 07:03:35 PM
I'd be happier with that CB ..if that's the case..at least that was Adams call (if true). I had heard a different version - always best to check out the facts.

Heard that from a very dependable source BS......Mc Ginley/Stephen O' Neill not that stupid....

Was the young lad not repeating his final year.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 26, 2022, 08:09:33 PM
Fair enough CB. One of the best young talents in the county is Adam. Hopefully we will see him in Saffron again in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 26, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
Rumour that Country Bumpkin is on the management team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2022, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 26, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
Rumour that Country Bumpkin is on the management team!

Have you visited the Oracle at Delphi JS...., or were you busy listening to idle gossip......?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2022, 10:26:01 PM
Good that we've got someone to give us the inside information
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Thank God for CB, as you would some on hear spreading untruths and undermining the management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Thank God for CB, as you would some on hear spreading untruths and undermining the management.

Its the detail and facts that he provides, uncanny, certainly a knack for sorta stuff, wasted on an auld discussion board, should be out there with Jerome doing the commentating on the games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
Always good to check the facts. CB is 100% correct, Adam left of his own accord to concentrate on his final year studies in UCD. I wasn't sure, that's why I was keen to get this particular point cleared up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Thank God for CB, as you would some on hear spreading untruths and undermining the management.

Its the detail and facts that he provides, uncanny, certainly a knack for sorta stuff, wasted on an auld discussion board, should be out there with Jerome doing the commentating on the games

Don' think he would want that, he is to down to earth for that, but he certainly helping to intervene and stop posters spreading shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 27, 2022, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Thank God for CB, as you would some on hear spreading untruths and undermining the management.

Its the detail and facts that he provides, uncanny, certainly a knack for sorta stuff, wasted on an auld discussion board, should be out there with Jerome doing the commentating on the games

My inquiring mind is a necessity.......even know and will soon relate the news that Galls have a new management team.

As to young Loughran, it is quite strange that a member if his own club has chosen not to involve himself with Antrim this year......one of the best young players in the county.
I asked why.....and got the answer.

Fcuk me it is our county team and am sure if one iis interested just ask and a reply will be forthcoming.

Probably time to ditch the PRO hat.......a
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 27, 2022, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Thank God for CB, as you would some on hear spreading untruths and undermining the management.

Its the detail and facts that he provides, uncanny, certainly a knack for sorta stuff, wasted on an auld discussion board, should be out there with Jerome doing the commentating on the games

My inquiring mind is a necessity.......even know and will soon relate the news that Galls have a new management team.

Good man CB, I thought Sean Burns and Gary McGirr are taking St Galls, is that not right?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 10:38:13 AM
Can anyone with their finger on the pulse of University football got any idea which Antrim players are featuring. At first glance our representation looks very meagre indeed.

Adam came on sub for UCD, Dominic Mc Enhill got ten minutes for UUJ, and Patrick Finnegan got whole game for QUB. Not sure about the Ranch, how many (if any) Antrim players featured.

Who have I missed? Anyone able to fill in the blanks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 10:52:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 27, 2022, 10:38:13 AM
Can anyone with their finger on the pulse of University football got any idea which Antrim players are featuring. At first glance our representation looks very meagre indeed.

Adam came on sub for UCD, Dominic Mc Enhill got ten minutes for UUJ, and Patrick Finnegan got whole game for QUB. Not sure about the Ranch, how many (if any) Antrim players featured.

Who have I missed? Anyone able to fill in the blanks?

Think thats about right BS, Ronan Boyle and couple of others on Queens freshers team, dont think we have any on UU freshers from watching the game on Monday night. Very poor in terms of senior teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 11:17:27 AM
A paltry return and further evidence of a complete lack of progress on any of our juvenile coaching and development fronts. And of course it's not all their fault, schools and clubs too need to be looking at their underperforming roles in this sad state of affairs.

3 x No senior representatives. A far shout from the day QUB and UUJ faced off in the final up at the Dub and we had 7 starters and 4 subs across those two universities alone.

Our director of football has work to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 11:52:17 AM
Think our clubs have work to do BS. Look at the standard of club juvenile football in Down or Derry, light years ahead of us, producing players with game sense, skill , and strength. County can only work with what the clubs send forward, we in the clubs need to be working harder.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 27, 2022, 12:50:40 PM
First question to ask is how many of our players are at university?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: Dreen on January 27, 2022, 12:50:40 PM
First question to ask is how many of our players are at university?

Good point Dreen  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 27, 2022, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: Dreen on January 27, 2022, 12:50:40 PM
First question to ask is how many of our players are at university?

Exactly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 12:57:24 PM
LOL...the education system in Antrim is behind schedule too then....come on, please!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 01:02:27 PM
its a very relevant point. Most Sigerson players these days are on their county senior panels, so if you went through Antrim senior panel, how many of those lads are at the Belfast Unis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 27, 2022, 01:03:15 PM
Not saying education is behind at all but the assumption is your best footballers are attending Sigerson uni's. This isn't always the case as some won't go to 3rd level education and some may not attend the ones that are Sigerson level.

UU has a very strong Tyrone contingent and the likes of Loughlin and Glass from Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 01:16:09 PM
adam loughran in dublin, eunan was dundalk ....only youngish players i know, Ronan Boyle qub but hes still a fresher but a great talent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 01:17:42 PM
There are as many Gaelic footballers at the three main Belfast Universities now as there were back then. The difference is our players arnt cutting the mustard there as they were previously. Those are the facts. You can try to disguise it any other way if you want. Same as our minors going to Donegal and getting beat by 24 points in a championship match. Players arnt good enough, that's the bottom line.....either that or they way they are being prepared isn't good enough.

The one thing I will agree on wholeheartedly is that clubs need to take the majority of responsibility for making sure their juveniles are well prepared. It's the only thing you can really make happen.

The director of football still has a lot of work to do!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 01:48:53 PM
well going back to queens great team of 93-94 the only antrim man on the whole panel was Ronan Hamill, one out of 24! So its hardly a new thing that our players struggle to get in the top sides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on January 27, 2022, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 27, 2022, 12:57:24 PM
LOL...the education system in Antrim is behind schedule too then....come on, please!

lol ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Do you think the Sigerson teams would beat Division 2, 3 & 4 teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Do you think the Sigerson teams would beat Division 2, 3 & 4 teams?

The top teams that year would compete, when college teams (with the players UUJ have at the minute) were playing in McKenna cup they did beat Antrim a few times

Queens got to a final also of the McKenna cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Do you think the Sigerson teams would beat Division 2, 3 & 4 teams?

The top teams that year would compete, when college teams (with the players UUJ have at the minute) were playing in McKenna cup they did beat Antrim a few times

Queens got to a final also of the McKenna cup

I'd agree that colleges football is a good standard, I am a big follower of it. However I think for the most part it's about Division 4 intercounty standard, with the best teams in certain years maybe division 3 or bottom end division 2 at a push.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Do you think the Sigerson teams would beat Division 2, 3 & 4 teams?

The top teams that year would compete, when college teams (with the players UUJ have at the minute) were playing in McKenna cup they did beat Antrim a few times

Queens got to a final also of the McKenna cup

I'd agree that colleges football is a good standard, I am a big follower of it. However I think for the most part it's about Division 4 intercounty standard, with the best teams in certain years maybe division 3 or bottom end division 2 at a push.

UCD won their version twice and played another final.  4 college finalists in Munster and 2 college winners of the FBD. Their standard is decent and competitive.. My point was, Antrim have been div 4 for long enough and the college teams at their best (top 4 per year.) can compete with the div 2 and 3 teams well enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Do you think the Sigerson teams would beat Division 2, 3 & 4 teams?

The top teams that year would compete, when college teams (with the players UUJ have at the minute) were playing in McKenna cup they did beat Antrim a few times

Queens got to a final also of the McKenna cup

I'd agree that colleges football is a good standard, I am a big follower of it. However I think for the most part it's about Division 4 intercounty standard, with the best teams in certain years maybe division 3 or bottom end division 2 at a push.

UCD won their version twice and played another final.  4 college finalists in Munster and 2 college winners of the FBD. Their standard is decent and competitive.. My point was, Antrim have been div 4 for long enough and the college teams at their best (top 4 per year.) can compete with the div 2 and 3 teams well enough

Yeah but in general the counties play experimental teams in the competitions so it can be a bit of a false indicator. I'd fancy Antrim to beat that current UUJ team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: toby47 on January 27, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Anyone go to these games? The level is just under div 1 county standard, now our level for the past few years has been well below that, so I'm not sure why people are finding it strange we only have the odd player on these panels..

Do you think the Sigerson teams would beat Division 2, 3 & 4 teams?

The top teams that year would compete, when college teams (with the players UUJ have at the minute) were playing in McKenna cup they did beat Antrim a few times

Queens got to a final also of the McKenna cup

I'd agree that colleges football is a good standard, I am a big follower of it. However I think for the most part it's about Division 4 intercounty standard, with the best teams in certain years maybe division 3 or bottom end division 2 at a push.

UCD won their version twice and played another final.  4 college finalists in Munster and 2 college winners of the FBD. Their standard is decent and competitive.. My point was, Antrim have been div 4 for long enough and the college teams at their best (top 4 per year.) can compete with the div 2 and 3 teams well enough

Yeah but in general the counties play experimental teams in the competitions so it can be a bit of a false indicator. I'd fancy Antrim to beat that current UUJ team.

And they may do, as Antrim have developed a bit better recently, I've ref'd a right few challenge games at UUJ against county teams over the years, and the time of year is a factor also, but with the talent available and if they had sole pick of the players  then the college teams selection would be pretty decent.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 27, 2022, 03:29:03 PM
I'm tempted again to point out that next to no MacRory Cup focus in the counties schools is killing us, but for some reason a lot of posters just want to jump in and say we need to look at the clubs first.  But it's a fact, although I'm glad to see good SW representation in Maghera and Magherafelt teams this year - on course for a tasty final, but it's Derry who will gain most and QUB and UUJ teams will feature Derry strongly in next few years, as sure as night follows day. We'll have a couple of we're lucky.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 03:44:15 PM
foundation is the club, not many mcrory cups in Monaghan and Donegal, 13 years since a tyrone side won it. Yes, schools with a strong mccrory cup ethos definatley drive their players harder to succeed, and yes i would love to see an Antrim school competitive at that level, but the building blocks still are supplied to them by the catchment clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 27, 2022, 04:47:33 PM
I wouldn't be getting to hung up on the sigerson lads. If you ever listened to Tomas O Se podcast you would hear his prediction that it is a dying competition with no room on the calendar. For what it's worth I'd say there no players unearthed at Sigerson therefore unless you are an underage star and a recognised name arriving at uni you won't playing that or you are an established player and college seeks you, reality is very few Antrim players for whatever reason fall in to this category. I would also say Antrim always seem to have a higher than average number of players travelling to England and the South for uni, maybe already experienced the bright lights of Belfast!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 27, 2022, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 27, 2022, 03:29:03 PM
I'm tempted again to point out that next to no MacRory Cup focus in the counties schools is killing us, but for some reason a lot of posters just want to jump in and say we need to look at the clubs first.  But it's a fact, although I'm glad to see good SW representation in Maghera and Magherafelt teams this year - on course for a tasty final, but it's Derry who will gain most and QUB and UUJ teams will feature Derry strongly in next few years, as sure as night follows day. We'll have a couple of we're lucky.
We could do with getting competitive in the schools competitions that our schools are currently in first. We aren't within a country mile of being competitive at the business end of McCrory Cup. Having a couple of schools competitive at the business end of Mclarnon Cup would be a good start. Maybe win one and get to a final every 4 or 5 years would do for starters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 27, 2022, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 27, 2022, 04:47:33 PM
I wouldn't be getting to hung up on the sigerson lads. If you ever listened to Tomas O Se podcast you would hear his prediction that it is a dying competition with no room on the calendar. For what it's worth I'd say there no players unearthed at Sigerson therefore unless you are an underage star and a recognised name arriving at uni you won't playing that or you are an established player and college seeks you, reality is very few Antrim players for whatever reason fall in to this category. I would also say Antrim always seem to have a higher than average number of players travelling to England and the South for uni, maybe already experienced the bright lights of Belfast!!
MacRory
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 27, 2022, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 27, 2022, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 27, 2022, 04:47:33 PM
I wouldn't be getting to hung up on the sigerson lads. If you ever listened to Tomas O Se podcast you would hear his prediction that it is a dying competition with no room on the calendar. For what it's worth I'd say there no players unearthed at Sigerson therefore unless you are an underage star and a recognised name arriving at uni you won't playing that or you are an established player and college seeks you, reality is very few Antrim players for whatever reason fall in to this category. I would also say Antrim always seem to have a higher than average number of players travelling to England and the South for uni, maybe already experienced the bright lights of Belfast!!
MacRory
Thomas O Se is a big supporter of Sigerson and giving it a place in the Calendar.

If you haven' featured in McRory you are going to find it very difficult to make the cut at Sigerson. Not impossible but the odds are not stacked in your favour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 05:58:52 PM
Bit of feedback there. Cormac McGettigan Cillian Burke and Niall Burns all featuring for the Ranch. That's a decent representation. And Peter King also on QUB set up.

That's a bit more like it. When you see guys featuring for their uni at this time of the year you know they're either at, or close to, the standard that's needed to be part of a county panel (esp in divisions three or four).

Owen Gallagher NUI and Peter Healy (UCD) faced off in a final a few years ago. Niall Delargy Dermot Mc Aleese and Ryan Murray were starting at QUB and Paddy Mc Bride, Matt Fitz and Paddy Mc Aleer were all big names at the Ranch that same year! Apologies if I left anyone out, just going from memory.

Sigerson participation mightnt be the complete barometer, but a fairly reliable one nonetheless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 06:20:43 PM
Mcgourty won a couple also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2022, 07:11:04 PM
There was one year the finals weekend was up at the dub and I would have said the antrim players on view were as good as anywhere. There were quite a few St Galls from memory and maybe the two McCanns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2022, 07:48:09 PM
Maybe throw in a Justy, Micko Herron and  Paddy C as well into that list ITG. Maybe others too....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2022, 08:19:51 PM
Better memory than me bs lol. I do remember watching that year and thinking you know what our players are not too bad here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 08:21:20 PM
Why do our gaa men in schools not push gaa? I'm baffled! La salle barely fielded as last number of seasons in gaa though flat out at soccer yet staff full of gaa lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 27, 2022, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 08:21:20 PM
Why do our gaa men in schools not push gaa? I'm baffled! La salle barely fielded as last number of seasons in gaa though flat out at soccer yet staff full of gaa lads
i think that really is a big problem in belfast . Dont seem to be teachers willing to put the hours in no more - no one replacing mctoal,mcgettigan, mcgourty, buchanan and the like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 27, 2022, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?
no the refs! just saying   chill out  - maybe we were just lucky with those lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 12:56:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?

No ones fault MR, but there are lots of contributing factors. Just the same way as it's not the Director of footballs fault we have no Antrim players in the qub sigerson starting 15!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?

Not all their fault but the culture of the school has a big say in it all. There's no real big GAA schools in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 28, 2022, 06:55:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?

Not all their fault but the culture of the school has a big say in it all. There's no real big GAA schools in Antrim.

Cross & Passion, St Louis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 07:24:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 28, 2022, 06:55:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?

Not all their fault but the culture of the school has a big say in it all. There's no real big GAA schools in Antrim.

Cross & Passion, St Louis?

Not really familiar with Cross and Passion with regards to football and I definitely wouldn't describe St. Louis as a GAA school. They play GAA of course but students don't specifically go there to play football like they do in the other schools in Ulster. GAA just isn't as important in Antrim. Obviously the likes of us in here are all GAA men but the vast majority of people don't have the interest like they do in the likes of Tyrone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 07:45:53 AM
There are schools in Antrim that take sport very seriously, Inst Methody BRA, Ballymena Academy, Ballyclare High, and Belfast High. They employ a director of rugby who looks after the running of the school rugby teams.

Are there GAA schools that have an employed person who's sole job is the running of the schools football team or hurling teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 08:19:53 AM
There has been a big shift in GAA in Saint Louis over the last 20 years.  In the late 90's there was probably 3 or 4 teachers pushing Gaelic games now it's part of the ethos of the school.

Hurling is still the king in terms of competing at A Grade and with the talent in the school from the local hurling clubs that will continue.

It would be great to see our schools win more B Grade titles at all ages to start with

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:26:04 AM
There are plenty of schools across Ulster who take their GAA aspirations very seriously, and have no shortage of teachers doubling up as coaches to their school football teams.

Take Holy Trinity in Cookstown for example. They are making proper strides in the A grade competitions, and are involved now in the play off stages of the Mc Rory Cup for the first time. And who is in their staff, involved in that process, the whole way up the conveyor belt from year 8.

John Mc Keever as head of PE, Peter Canavan, Kieran Mc Geary, Kobo, Mark Bradley and God knows who else.

As JS says, Tyrone make it happen. We make excuses. That's why it's all down to clubs from now on to step up, you can't rely on anything else as far as I can see, maybe the odd good yield in a yeargroup or something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2022, 08:28:49 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
So it's the teachers fault?

Not all their fault but the culture of the school has a big say in it all. There's no real big GAA schools in Antrim.

In start contrast to Antrim scools/colleges are South Derry based St Pats, St Mary's and St Pius x, where Gaelic games feature prominently.
Pats and St Mary's contest the Mc Crory semis tonight and both include players from Cargin and Moneyglass, and possibly more from other neighbours....

With very few exceptions youngsters in the Cargin/Creggan area and more than a few from PG1 attend those schools/colleges in South Derry and not coincidental that all of the above are constant contenders in our competitions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:44:24 AM
CB the reason the players from Cargin and Creggan get their place on the St Pats or St Mary's team/panel is because they are going in their at year 8 with a good skill base already developed at the club.

You go into those schools and don't get into that conveyor belt early you Probably won't get on at all

That's where it all starts. Club under age especially 6 -14. You don't have this foundation in place, forget it. And most Antrim clubs don't. That's the challenge and I'm saying this for quite a while now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 09:00:49 AM
I prefer to blame the lazy teachers in Antrim who come into to teach but don't do anything else! Lazy B'astids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:39:18 AM
I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

Building a new 4g GAA pitch, bringing in a non staff member to work on s&c with players, actively recruiting teachers with a gaa background so they can help with teams....but as you say Bannside no evidence of the school supporting GAA!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
They are also a split school with hurling and football too. You look at Dunloy and Loughgiel senior teams and a load of them will have come through St Louis.

There's also a reasonable amount of soccer in there I think.

On the note of St Louis they have just released a slick video on their sports departments and facilities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 09:32:21 AM
I'm all on for progress on the GAA front at St Louis or any Antrim school. I accept there is genuine work going on, but can't quantify what that amounts to until I would either see some kind of evidence of that in the Ulster Colleges GAA grade B results section. I'm not hearing it either on the street and parents around here arnt stopping sending their children to South Derry schools because there's a huge GAA push on at St Louis.as much as I would love to see that happening.

Others here are impressed so maybe I'm just not seeing it as closely as some of those here with vested interests are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:39:18 AM
I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

I'm clutching at nothing BS, I stated fact.  There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago when for years soccer was pushed before anything.
The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply.
There is no doubt that football there has room for progression but with the facilities already there and the new development taking place this year no one can doubt the background work being done to promote in St Louis.

There is a Senior county camog, a multiple derry championship winning hurling and football player, a current Antrim senior player, a county u20 hurling coach with his share of success in club hurling, and Hogan winning captain involved with teams in the school at present and I see that as positive.

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.


See the virtual tour below on twitter


https://twitter.com/i/status/1486456710566920202

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on January 28, 2022, 09:53:48 AM
Come on now Dreen don't be letting the facts get in the way of the stick to beat Antrim football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 09:55:21 AM
I've known about this for a while Dreen right back to the announcement of the grant funding, and believe it or not have had quite a few lengthy conversations about the promotion of this new ethos with the man who was behind it from the start, principal Sean Rafferty. So I'm fairly well tuned in here on this topic.

Great to see the involvement of the people you mention, and I know a couple of them too. This is positive, and fair play where due, but let's start seeing teams being competitive in grade B at least, starting with the lower age groups and working upwards from that base.

I know in our club we have some superb juveniles in or around the age their parents need to make academic choices and stop the flow to South Derry schools.

Does anyone else know of anything positive happening elsewhere. St Mary's St Malachys De La Salle Rathmore etc??

We are talking about being competitive in the grade B's here.

Is anyone picking this up, driving it from a county games and development perspective?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
Points - maybe it's a discussion around how our county minors don't ever lose a 60 minute championship game by 24 points. How's that for a fact!

How's it Antrim bashing? Either the work is being done or its not. Wouldn't it be good to know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
Points - maybe it's a discussion around how our county minors don't ever lose a 60 minute championship game by 24 points. How's that for a fact!

How's it Antrim bashing? Either the work is being done or its not. Wouldn't it be good to know!

How many Casements players started on that minor team BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2022, 10:06:07 AM
BS you used to be so positive!!! (I agree with some of your points btw though not all - I think like CB sid there is no coincidence between the strength round that area of the south west and the derry schools influence but then you have the chicken egg scenario of club and school. It is no coincidence Aghagallon are getting much stronger now the Lurgan schools are much stronger too. It feels like a chicken egg thing but I think schools are, at least, as important as clubs.)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 28, 2022, 10:06:07 AM
BS you used to be so positive!!! (I agree with some of your points btw though not all - I think like CB sid there is no coincidence between the strength round that area of the south west and the derry schools influence but then you have the chicken egg scenario of club and school. It is no coincidence Aghagallon are getting much stronger now the Lurgan schools are much stronger too. It feels like a chicken egg thing but I think schools are, at least, as important as clubs.)

Bannside always positive when he has a vested interest, last 6 months hasn't gone to plan, hence everything anyone else is doing is a shit show!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:39:18 AM
I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

I'm clutching at nothing BS, I stated fact.  There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago when for years soccer was pushed before anything.
The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply.
There is no doubt that football there has room for progression but with the facilities already there and the new development taking place this year no one can doubt the background work being done to promote in St Louis.

There is a Senior county camog, a multiple derry championship winning hurling and football player, a current Antrim senior player, a county u20 hurling coach with his share of success in club hurling, and Hogan winning captain involved with teams in the school at present and I see that as positive.

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.


See the virtual tour below on twitter


https://twitter.com/i/status/1486456710566920202

The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply. Agree both clubs have strong underage structures

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.

There are 3 schools in Tyrone competing @MacRory level(all got out of group stage) who draw and overlap with some or all of their catchement area + some pupils in their catchment area go to St Marys

There are several schools in their catchment area competing @ B & C levels also.

In football terms I will accept correction on this but as BS has indicated there is little or no evidence of progression from a results perspective than when there were 0, 1, 2 .... teachers half interested.  This is B competition as well

FYI St Ronans who won MacRory & Hogan don't have a pitch @ all so 3G's & virtual tours are all excellent but I'm afraid it misses the point of significant under achievement.

Progress in Hurling (This is effectively B competition as Ulster doesn't compete @ A)  Camogie & Ladies football is very welcome but there is a long way to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:40:10 AM
So as ITG says is it chicken and egg?  I still beleive we have to go back to the clubs here. If clubs were supplying players of high standard to St Marys St Louis etc we would be competing in A grade Year 8 competitions and then the poor quality of Gaa progression that Bannside says is happening at St Louis would kick in and everything would go all pete tong from there on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:39:18 AM
I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

I'm clutching at nothing BS, I stated fact.  There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago when for years soccer was pushed before anything.
The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply.
There is no doubt that football there has room for progression but with the facilities already there and the new development taking place this year no one can doubt the background work being done to promote in St Louis.

There is a Senior county camog, a multiple derry championship winning hurling and football player, a current Antrim senior player, a county u20 hurling coach with his share of success in club hurling, and Hogan winning captain involved with teams in the school at present and I see that as positive.

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.


See the virtual tour below on twitter


https://twitter.com/i/status/1486456710566920202

The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply. Agree both clubs have strong underage structures

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.

There are 3 schools in Tyrone competing @MacRory level(all got out of group stage) who draw and overlap with some or all of their catchement area + some pupils in their catchment area go to St Marys

There are several schools in their catchment area competing @ B & C levels also.

In football terms I will accept correction on this but as BS has indicated there is little or no evidence of progression from a results perspective than when there were 0, 1, 2 .... teachers half interested.  This is B competition as well

FYI St Ronans who won MacRory & Hogan don't have a pitch @ all so 3G's & virtual tours are all excellent but I'm afraid it misses the point of significant under achievement.

Progress in Hurling (This is effectively B competition as Ulster doesn't compete @ A)  Camogie & Ladies football is very welcome but there is a long way to go

Key question, do pupils have to all pass a transfer test to get to these A schools?

I am not in anyway saying St Louis are cutting the mustard in football, anyone who has ever discussed it with me would know I think it has underachieved.  I was lucky enough to have some very good footballing days at the school in the 90's when we had no facilities but I'd make the point that if the school is looking for a presence in the school to drive success in B football with the infrastructure that is there it would be a great job for someone to take.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:40:10 AM
So as ITG says is it chicken and egg?  I still beleive we have to go back to the clubs here. If clubs were supplying players of high standard to St Marys St Louis etc we would be competing in A grade Year 8 competitions and then the poor quality of Gaa progression that Bannside says is happening at St Louis would kick in and everything would go all pete tong from there on.

Elephant in the room is the utter failure of Belfast based schools in major college competitions over the past generation.....
A major city with a population 600k and schools within cannot make a dent I'm Mc Crory cup...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 11:15:45 AM
Very true CB, last McCrory was mid 80s, not even featuring in McLarnon either, i dont really count Knock as most of those players are from the Down clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 11:15:45 AM
Very true CB, last McCrory was mid 80s, not even featuring in McLarnon either, i dont really count Knock as most of those players are from the Down clubs.

Did La Salle not win this or in the final a load of years ago? and St Marys after that?

As for the failure of Belfast schools with 600k students, is that all the students in all the schools that play GAA?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 08:39:18 AM
I'd love to know what St Louis are doing to promote football. I don't see any evidence of it anywhere. Gearoid Adams was appointed to oversee this project but that didn't work out very well before he departed for a job closer to home.

I know that the school principal was disappointed that this project fell through and from what I see no one else has revived it since. I wouldn't be holding St Louis up as any kind of shining example Dreen, you are clutching at straws here and you know that. In my book NO Antrim school is punching anywhere near its weight in football terms. For hurling there is always the Antrim Hurling Page where people can wax lyrical if they want!

I'm clutching at nothing BS, I stated fact.  There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago when for years soccer was pushed before anything.
The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply.
There is no doubt that football there has room for progression but with the facilities already there and the new development taking place this year no one can doubt the background work being done to promote in St Louis.

There is a Senior county camog, a multiple derry championship winning hurling and football player, a current Antrim senior player, a county u20 hurling coach with his share of success in club hurling, and Hogan winning captain involved with teams in the school at present and I see that as positive.

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.


See the virtual tour below on twitter


https://twitter.com/i/status/1486456710566920202

The hurling will be strong due to the Dunloy and Loughgiel in the school quite simply. Agree both clubs have strong underage structures

You hail Holy Trinity and rightly so but firstly they don't have to work with hurling and they are surrounded by football clubs who we know are working at a higher level than some of our clubs.

There are 3 schools in Tyrone competing @MacRory level(all got out of group stage) who draw and overlap with some or all of their catchement area + some pupils in their catchment area go to St Marys

There are several schools in their catchment area competing @ B & C levels also.

In football terms I will accept correction on this but as BS has indicated there is little or no evidence of progression from a results perspective than when there were 0, 1, 2 .... teachers half interested.  This is B competition as well

FYI St Ronans who won MacRory & Hogan don't have a pitch @ all so 3G's & virtual tours are all excellent but I'm afraid it misses the point of significant under achievement.

Progress in Hurling (This is effectively B competition as Ulster doesn't compete @ A)  Camogie & Ladies football is very welcome but there is a long way to go

Key question, do pupils have to all pass a transfer test to get to these A schools?

I am not in anyway saying St Louis are cutting the mustard in football, anyone who has ever discussed it with me would know I think it has underachieved.  I was lucky enough to have some very good footballing days at the school in the 90's when we had no facilities but I'd make the point that if the school is looking for a presence in the school to drive success in B football with the infrastructure that is there it would be a great job for someone to take.

Key question, do pupils have to all pass a transfer test to get to these A schools?
I would think for  Dungannon, Omagh, St Marys,  yes Donaghmore in B I would think yes others I don't know


There is a greater Gaelic Games ethos in St Louis than there was 20 years ago No evidence that I can see in Football I would think if you looked at the previous 20 years on the results side they would be at worst equal and probably better. I would be happy to be corrected in this as I'm going on memory This was when there was a negative ethos if there is such a thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 11:41:41 AM
Agreed on results but there is definitely more GAA in the school than ever and that now has to be moved on to the next level.

You raised St Ronans who have risen to a great level but there are big differences there with St Louis and that's not just on the staff side. 

As has been raised it's up to clubs to provide the standard of player to excel as schools level and this is the one challenge everyone on here can actually have an effect on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 28, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:40:10 AM
So as ITG says is it chicken and egg?  I still beleive we have to go back to the clubs here. If clubs were supplying players of high standard to St Marys St Louis etc we would be competing in A grade Year 8 competitions and then the poor quality of Gaa progression that Bannside says is happening at St Louis would kick in and everything would go all pete tong from there on.

Elephant in the room is the utter failure of Belfast based schools in major college competitions over the past generation.....
A major city with a population 600k and schools within cannot make a dent I'm Mc Crory cup...
St Louis sits as close as you are going to get to the centre of SW Antrim (Hot bed of Antrim football 😁). With the possible exception of Lisburn, Aghagallen, St Enda's & possibly Glenavy there have been pupils from every other clubs catchment area through the school. Outside of moving it 7/8 miles to Antrim and catching the exceptions above it should with the drive and cooperation. of clubs be a lot more competitive with or without 3G's.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 28, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:40:10 AM
So as ITG says is it chicken and egg?  I still beleive we have to go back to the clubs here. If clubs were supplying players of high standard to St Marys St Louis etc we would be competing in A grade Year 8 competitions and then the poor quality of Gaa progression that Bannside says is happening at St Louis would kick in and everything would go all pete tong from there on.

Elephant in the room is the utter failure of Belfast based schools in major college competitions over the past generation.....
A major city with a population 600k and schools within cannot make a dent I'm Mc Crory cup...
St Louis sits as close as you are going to get to the centre of SW Antrim (Hot bed of Antrim football 😁). With the possible exception of Lisburn, Aghagallen, St Enda's & possibly Glenavy there have been pupils from every other clubs catchment area through the school. Outside of moving it 7/8 miles to Antrim and catching the exceptions above it should with the drive and cooperation. of clubs be a lot more competitive with or without 3G's.

So why is it not winning McCrorys Flanker?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 11:41:41 AM
Agreed on results but there is definitely more GAA in the school than ever and that now has to be moved on to the next level.

You raised St Ronans who have risen to a great level but there are big differences there with St Louis and that's not just on the staff side.  They do have the likes of Mickey Donnelly driving the thing

What are the big differences ? Don't forget they are surrounded by multiple schools drawing from / overlapping the catchment area

They do have the likes of Mickey Donnelly driving the thing. Not sure everyone would agree with this

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 12:03:42 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 28, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:40:10 AM
So as ITG says is it chicken and egg?  I still beleive we have to go back to the clubs here. If clubs were supplying players of high standard to St Marys St Louis etc we would be competing in A grade Year 8 competitions and then the poor quality of Gaa progression that Bannside says is happening at St Louis would kick in and everything would go all pete tong from there on.

Elephant in the room is the utter failure of Belfast based schools in major college competitions over the past generation.....
A major city with a population 600k and schools within cannot make a dent I'm Mc Crory cup...
St Louis sits as close as you are going to get to the centre of SW Antrim (Hot bed of Antrim football 😁). With the possible exception of Lisburn, Aghagallen, St Enda's & possibly Glenavy there have been pupils from every other clubs catchment area through the school. Outside of moving it 7/8 miles to Antrim and catching the exceptions above it should with the drive and cooperation. of clubs be a lot more competitive with or without 3G's.

So why is it not winning McCrorys Flanker?

I would settle for business end of McLarnon on a regular basis. I believe this should be achievable given the catchment area and a small amount of focus and drive.

Would you not think that is a reasonable goal ?

On MacRorys that would require a much broader approach in ground up coaching at club level delivering a higher calibre player into the school.

It would require support from S/W and Antrim Board to support the school with regard to High quality coaching.

The top level schools are using additional outside resources funded or partially funded by other sources (Not sure if this is county or Ulster funded. Appreciate this may have been difficult over the last couple of years with less funds available)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 12:03:49 PM
Flanker you raise a fair point but there are many variables to consider in that.  St Louis doesn't get many students from some of the top SW clubs just based on geography to St Mary's Magherafelt which is the closest school and historically was seen as a better school for academic performance.  When dealing with history you would have some parents also wanting the child to go to the same school they did.

The quality of the school team no matter who the coach is will be driven by the success of the Clubs closest to the school and for the players in those clubs to pass the transfer test to get it.

The most successful group of players in my memory of the school had players who were involved in multiple minor championships wins with Sean Stinsons along with a couple of standout players from Glenravel and input from Rasharkin,Dunloy and even Tir Na Nog who were strong at underage then too.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 12:17:39 PM
If we are all genuinely on the same page here about wanting to see football flourishing in the county and us having a county team that has the respect of all, then - leaving all vested interests aside - we need to agree that teams representing us at school level and county minor cship level have been extremely disappointing.

When this subject is raised the usual defences go up and queue the cohort of posters out to protect their interests. I get accused of county bashing..come on, anyone with an inkling of sense knows we are a fair bit off in these departments.

That's not down to one person or one body, it's been going on far too long for that. But to deny it, to say it's not struggling is bullshit and needs to be called out for what it is.

There's plenty of positives. Financially SBF and CA are doing great work. Dunsilly project going well. A few clubs have upped the ante and look to be making good progress. Enda on good progress curve with seniors. That's good, call it as it is. But don't try and mask what we really need to do with county development and schools. We all know that's the area that needs fixing.

But the big prizes await the club's who are doing their juveniles properly. If clubs stepped up to the mark in this area a lot of other problems would be greatly eased.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 12:30:24 PM
Yes BS, its the clubs that must step up. We don't have the same level of passion for gaa in Antrim as you find in south derry or Tyrone (plenty of good gaels on here i know but in clubs it tends to be one or two really dedicated drivers who keep the whole thing going, while in other counties you have 20 of those drivers in every club)
Our juvenile leagues are very poor. The move to All county from divisional boards has been a disaster for sw teams, cant see city teams seeing it as much of an improvement either. How can young players develop only getting 5-6 league games a year!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 12:32:08 PM
Agreed with you the club's BS and there's no doubt about the disappointing results at minor and schools level.

I personally don't have a vested interest, I was just giving my view on Saint Louis which I think is a fair assessment even though I did attend the school.

How do we sort the county development and schools?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 12:39:47 PM
if you had money in the pot, would you employ an outside coach to come into st louis to be head coach? Do the same with St Marys Belfast? Who would you get for such a role?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 28, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
Simply if St Louis is to thrive at football you need to convince the parents to send their kids there to get quality education (which it is known for) AND quality football education (which it is not known for).

In the 'hotbed' of SW football - the vast majority of parents of Cargin, Creggan, Moneyglass, Tir na nOg send their kids to South Derry Schools - St Marys, St Pats and St Pius, with sizeable numbers from PG1, Ahoghill and Antrim Town also following suit - all 3 schools now have a highly visible GAA culture within the school and a constant presence of the status of football.   For whatever reason St Louis do not seem to promote that adequately and are known in the area as for their academic excellence only - hardly a slight but GAA mad parents see the south derry schools as a major 2 for 1 offer which can only assist their children.

Lots of promotional work needed in the primary schools allied to a huge promotion within the school 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 01:33:56 PM
Great points being made now. Saffsof82, you've hit the nail on the head sir.

County needs to appoint one or two full time coaches, paid by county funds, to make themselves available to drive on post primary school development.

Between coaching teams, mentoring promising individuals, advocating good practices (S&C, lifestyle diet etc) and monitoring the individual progress in particular of the fellas likely to wear Saffron at senior level in the future.

To act as a safety net to see there is no slippage - how many players slip through the net, it's scary.

Participating schools should be asked to contribute financially pro rata depending on their needs.

Pay these two football coaches well. Don't train them up for a year to leave for another job because they can't get a mortgage. Make it a job quality coaches desire. Let them see it as a career.

If two are working well, maybe think about funding a third or fourth in time.

Love your idea Saffs. Could solve so many problems in one swoop. Simple effective and utterly doable!

And could these two coaches step up for a bit of overtime with development squads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
Simply if St Louis is to thrive at football you need to convince the parents to send their kids there to get quality education (which it is known for) AND quality football education (which it is not known for).

In the 'hotbed' of SW football - the vast majority of parents of Cargin, Creggan, Moneyglass, Tir na nOg send their kids to South Derry Schools - St Marys, St Pats and St Pius, with sizeable numbers from PG1, Ahoghill and Antrim Town also following suit - all 3 schools now have a highly visible GAA culture within the school and a constant presence of the status of football.   For whatever reason St Louis do not seem to promote that adequately and are known in the area as for their academic excellence only - hardly a slight but GAA mad parents see the south derry schools as a major 2 for 1 offer which can only assist their children.

Lots of promotional work needed in the primary schools allied to a huge promotion within the school

Because football is essentially the third game in the school behind hurling and soccer???

If you live the South West and football is a significant factor in where you want to send your son to school, as many posters here have already said, you send your child to Maghera or Magherafelt. If all the "good" footballers are already going to Derry schools, how do you realistically expect St Louis to address that situation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 02:20:16 PM
yes cloot, needs to be some major carrot to entice those who would head across the Bann to convent, st pious or maghera.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
Simply if St Louis is to thrive at football you need to convince the parents to send their kids there to get quality education (which it is known for) AND quality football education (which it is not known for).

In the 'hotbed' of SW football - the vast majority of parents of Cargin, Creggan, Moneyglass, Tir na nOg send their kids to South Derry Schools - St Marys, St Pats and St Pius, with sizeable numbers from PG1, Ahoghill and Antrim Town also following suit - all 3 schools now have a highly visible GAA culture within the school and a constant presence of the status of football.   For whatever reason St Louis do not seem to promote that adequately and are known in the area as for their academic excellence only - hardly a slight but GAA mad parents see the south derry schools as a major 2 for 1 offer which can only assist their children.

Lots of promotional work needed in the primary schools allied to a huge promotion within the school

Because football is essentially the third game in the school behind hurling and soccer???

If you live the South West and football is a significant factor in where you want to send your son to school, as many posters here have already said, you send your child to Maghera or Magherafelt. If all the "good" footballers are already going to Derry schools, how do you realistically expect St Louis to address that situation?
If you look at the Maghera & Magherafelt squads  and teams there would be a small proportion from Antrim clubs most years but not big numbers. The chicken and egg situation is for St Louis to attract some of the guys who would go to the South Derry schools and also some of the guys who go to  St Killians. Become consistently competitive at B level and work from there. There will always be some guys who go to the South Derry schools but every school be it Down Armagh Tyrone etc have players who cross borders and catchment aeeas. Maximise the available talent and they won't be far awsy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 02:31:38 PM
if Benen kelly, conchuir johnston, tom shivers and tiernan mcormick were all at St Louis that would be some foundation for a McLarnon team.  So how does st louis get these fellas ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 28, 2022, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
Simply if St Louis is to thrive at football you need to convince the parents to send their kids there to get quality education (which it is known for) AND quality football education (which it is not known for).

In the 'hotbed' of SW football - the vast majority of parents of Cargin, Creggan, Moneyglass, Tir na nOg send their kids to South Derry Schools - St Marys, St Pats and St Pius, with sizeable numbers from PG1, Ahoghill and Antrim Town also following suit - all 3 schools now have a highly visible GAA culture within the school and a constant presence of the status of football.   For whatever reason St Louis do not seem to promote that adequately and are known in the area as for their academic excellence only - hardly a slight but GAA mad parents see the south derry schools as a major 2 for 1 offer which can only assist their children.

Lots of promotional work needed in the primary schools allied to a huge promotion within the school

Because football is essentially the third game in the school behind hurling and soccer???

If you live the South West and football is a significant factor in where you want to send your son to school, as many posters here have already said, you send your child to Maghera or Magherafelt. If all the "good" footballers are already going to Derry schools, how do you realistically expect St Louis to address that situation?

How do you think St Mary's Magherafelt turned it around from being an academic school only reputation to a school noted for both? They changed the ethos, culture, support, recognition and status within the school, and recruited intelligently for those delivering the sporting codes in both male and female codes - brothers and sisters both would come rather than splitting between St Pats and St Marys.  Initially, before St Pius began A-Levels,  they also assisted greatly those who were coming from St Pius high school to do A-Levels thus boosting their own playing nrs from a school which also had a strong football tradition.  (Unsure whether St Louis have this close relationship with St Pats Ballymena, kilrea, killians or Lourdes Ballymoney etc etc.) 

It wont happen overnight but it can happen with the correct planning and foresight. St Marys is the example of how.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 02:51:43 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
Simply if St Louis is to thrive at football you need to convince the parents to send their kids there to get quality education (which it is known for) AND quality football education (which it is not known for).

In the 'hotbed' of SW football - the vast majority of parents of Cargin, Creggan, Moneyglass, Tir na nOg send their kids to South Derry Schools - St Marys, St Pats and St Pius, with sizeable numbers from PG1, Ahoghill and Antrim Town also following suit - all 3 schools now have a highly visible GAA culture within the school and a constant presence of the status of football.   For whatever reason St Louis do not seem to promote that adequately and are known in the area as for their academic excellence only - hardly a slight but GAA mad parents see the south derry schools as a major 2 for 1 offer which can only assist their children.

Lots of promotional work needed in the primary schools allied to a huge promotion within the school

Because football is essentially the third game in the school behind hurling and soccer???

If you live the South West and football is a significant factor in where you want to send your son to school, as many posters here have already said, you send your child to Maghera or Magherafelt. If all the "good" footballers are already going to Derry schools, how do you realistically expect St Louis to address that situation?

How do you think St Mary's Magherafelt turned it around from being an academic school only reputation to a school noted for both? They changed the ethos, culture, support, recognition and status within the school, and recruited intelligently for those delivering the sporting codes in both male and female codes - brothers and sisters both would come rather than splitting between St Pats and St Marys.  Initially, before St Pius began A-Levels,  they also assisted greatly those who were coming from St Pius high school to do A-Levels thus boosting their own playing nrs from a school which also had a strong football tradition.  (Unsure whether St Louis have this close relationship with St Pats Ballymena, kilrea, killians or Lourdes Ballymoney etc etc.) 

It wont happen overnight but it can happen with the correct planning and foresight. St Marys is the example of how.

But football has always been the number one game for boys in St Marys, even when it had the reputation as being an "academic school only". As the number one game in the school, it was always ripe for development.

Football has never been even the second game in St Louis, let alone the first.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 28, 2022, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 12:39:47 PM
if you had money in the pot, would you employ an outside coach to come into st louis to be head coach? Do the same with St Marys Belfast? Who would you get for such a role?
Is that what the fella Devlin is in Magherafelt - paid non-teaching help?  And if he is, does anyone know the funding model?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 02:59:16 PM
no idea sportacus tbh. Sexton back in the back was only interested in soccer at St Louis, did have some fine soccer teams back in the day.  Alot of kids transfer to St Louis to do A levels and Btech from St Benedicts, st pats ballymena, OLOL, ST Olcans
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
Guys I love my GAA and all that but would you not be sending your kids to the school that will give them the best education? Hurling/football aint going to pay the wages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
Guys I love my GAA and all that but would you not be sending your kids to the school that will give them the best education? Hurling/football aint going to pay the wages

That's the thing MR - they're all good schools - spoilt for choice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 03:24:14 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
Guys I love my GAA and all that but would you not be sending your kids to the school that will give them the best education? Hurling/football aint going to pay the wages

That's the thing MR - they're all good schools - spoilt for choice

100% Spike, all good educational schools, the Derry ones offer top class Gaa action on top, so the question remains, how does St Louis get them to sign on with them???  Bring in a top class coach dedicated to football, what else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
Guys I love my GAA and all that but would you not be sending your kids to the school that will give them the best education? Hurling/football aint going to pay the wages

That's the thing MR - they're all good schools - spoilt for choice

They are I know they poll well in the scores, for me picking a school was location and how well they perform, I didnt want a school where I had to hike to bring them to meet friends and pick ups and all the other crap ya don't think of at the time lol!

I suppose in the country they are travelling all the time, Its probably easier to go to south Derry than Ballymena for Cargin and Moneyglass ones
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
But football has always been the number one game for boys in St Marys, even when it had the reputation as being an "academic school only". As the number one game in the school, it was always ripe for development.

Football has never been even the second game in St Louis, let alone the first.
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Attract good footballers, get success, promote that success within and you'd be surprised how quickly the focus changes.   When St Marys started being competitive in the MacLarnon Cup, the hierarchy bought into it.   Before then yes the main sport was football played by the pupils, but its promotion and focus by staff was light years behind St Pats and St Pius.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:35:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
Guys I love my GAA and all that but would you not be sending your kids to the school that will give them the best education? Hurling/football aint going to pay the wages

That's the thing MR - they're all good schools - spoilt for choice

They are I know they poll well in the scores, for me picking a school was location and how well they perform, I didnt want a school where I had to hike to bring them to meet friends and pick ups and all the other crap ya don't think of at the time lol!

I suppose in the country they are travelling all the time, Its probably easier to go to south Derry than Ballymena for Cargin and Moneyglass ones

yeah, you're on a bus either way except there are 5 or 6 go to Magherafelt, 1 I think goes to maghera and 1or2 to Ballymena (guessing here sp fully stand to be corrected). Some brothers / sisters maybe even go to the Rainey Endowed if they weren't able to get into St Marys - a lot of schools in Magherafelt for all the size of the town.   Certainly easier for cargin, moneyglass, creggan and randalstown.   Football is main focus in SW and lots of kid's parents went to derry schools so naturally the eyes wander that direction to the south derry football area and the schools within.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
But football has always been the number one game for boys in St Marys, even when it had the reputation as being an "academic school only". As the number one game in the school, it was always ripe for development.

Football has never been even the second game in St Louis, let alone the first.


Attract good footballers, get success, promote that success within and you'd be surprised how quickly the focus changes.   When St Marys started being competitive in the MacLarnon Cup, the hierarchy bought into it.   Before then yes the main sport was football played by the pupils, but its promotion and focus by staff was light years behind St Pats and St Pius.
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You are assuming that the majority of people attending St Louis and residing in its catchment area want the focus to change to football . . .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 28, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
not really sure what you want here Cloot.  Can't relocate St Louis and your posts suggest you feel its mindset cant be changed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 04:26:12 PM
As much as football is the main sport in the SW, hurling will be the sport that has and will be for a while to come number one in St Louis, St Mary's and Cross and Passion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
Simply if St Louis is to thrive at football you need to convince the parents to send their kids there to get quality education (which it is known for) AND quality football education (which it is not known for).

In the 'hotbed' of SW football - the vast majority of parents of Cargin, Creggan, Moneyglass, Tir na nOg send their kids to South Derry Schools - St Marys, St Pats and St Pius, with sizeable numbers from PG1, Ahoghill and Antrim Town also following suit - all 3 schools now have a highly visible GAA culture within the school and a constant presence of the status of football.   For whatever reason St Louis do not seem to promote that adequately and are known in the area as for their academic excellence only - hardly a slight but GAA mad parents see the south derry schools as a major 2 for 1 offer which can only assist their children.

Lots of promotional work needed in the primary schools allied to a huge promotion within the school

Because football is essentially the third game in the school behind hurling and soccer???

If you live the South West and football is a significant factor in where you want to send your son to school, as many posters here have already said, you send your child to Maghera or Magherafelt. If all the "good" footballers are already going to Derry schools, how do you realistically expect St Louis to address that situation?

How do you think St Mary's Magherafelt turned it around from being an academic school only reputation to a school noted for both? They changed the ethos, culture, support, recognition and status within the school, and recruited intelligently for those delivering the sporting codes in both male and female codes - brothers and sisters both would come rather than splitting between St Pats and St Marys.  Initially, before St Pius began A-Levels,  they also assisted greatly those who were coming from St Pius high school to do A-Levels thus boosting their own playing nrs from a school which also had a strong football tradition.  (Unsure whether St Louis have this close relationship with St Pats Ballymena, kilrea, killians or Lourdes Ballymoney etc etc.) 

It wont happen overnight but it can happen with the correct planning and foresight. St Marys is the example of how.
Spike above all true but one of the biggest drivers was the focus on underage development at Magherafelt (Rossas).

They really drove the underage development and it mean't St Mary's had a core of 10 to 15 lads virtually every year who were very competitive and successful at underage in Derry. This underpinned the panel and with surrounding clubs providing a handful each you got a very competitive setup. Thus coupled with the points you made developed them from a McLarnon school to a competitive Macrory team. They also got and accepted additional coaching expertise.

There is no reason a similar model wouldn't work with Ballymena being the underpin due to scale and numbers. Despite good work being done at All Saints it hasn't fallen into place. The missing piece may be a top class experienced underage development coach being funded and pitched into the mix.

The pieces of the jigsaw are there they just need to be put together over a period of time

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
not really sure what you want here Cloot.  Can't relocate St Louis and your posts suggest you feel its mindset cant be changed.

What I am driving at is that I think it is simply unrealistic to expect football ever to become the "main" game in St Louis or even for St Louis to get to and compete regularly at A level in football, no matter what steps the school may take to promote football.

In much of St Louis' hinterland, hurling is the main, if not the only, game. Soccer is strong in the area too. Those are just the realities.

As I pointed out in an earlier post, if a talented (or ambitious) footballer from the southwest is looking at secondary schools and sees St Louis' and St Mary's as equal academically, he goes to St Mary's if he wants a chance to play McRory. How can St Louis' ever be attractive to such a player from a football perspective?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
not really sure what you want here Cloot.  Can't relocate St Louis and your posts suggest you feel its mindset cant be changed.

What I am driving at is that I think it is simply unrealistic to expect football ever to become the "main" game in St Louis or even for St Louis to get to and compete regularly at A level in football, no matter what steps the school may take to promote football.

In much of St Louis' hinterland, hurling is the main, if not the only, game. Soccer is strong in the area too. Those are just the realities.

As I pointed out in an earlier post, if a talented (or ambitious) footballer from the southwest is looking at secondary schools and sees St Louis' and St Mary's as equal academically, he goes to St Mary's if he wants a chance to play McRory. How can St Louis' ever be attractive to such a player from a football perspective?

That is the question being asked alright. So the discussion started off maligning our lack of schools competing in A competitions and even being consistent at the finishing line of B competitions. Alot of factors for that situation have been identified and some parts of a solution put forward in the context one one school St Louis.
No easy fix here fellas and we never even got started on the Belfast schools!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 05:00:46 PM
18 league games in u15 football plus championship, thats some change, obviously someone was listen earlier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 05:18:26 PM
A Ronan Devlin part funded by schools part funded by county would definitely make some difference. That's for sure. That's the action plan that is coming out if this, for me anyway. Maybe a company sponsor would chi in too, make it a three way payment arrangement.

Tbh, not having a pop here, but this needs to be something GA can deliver if he's serious about making a difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 05:18:26 PM
A Ronan Devlin part funded by schools part funded by county would definitely make some difference. That's for sure. That's the action plan that is coming out if this, for me anyway. Maybe a company sponsor would chi in too, make it a three way payment arrangement.

Tbh, not having a pop here, but this needs to be something GA can deliver if he's serious about making a difference.
As far as I know Ronan came in on a scheme either partially funded by Derry or Ulster as a coaching development officer. He then left for a year to do a PGDip (I think that is what it is). He is now a full time teacher in the school. They have had 1 or 2 others in as well.

Not many Ronan's around though and you need to get All Saints at full throttle to feed numbes and base line quality in... Supplement with a handful from 8 _ 10 surrounding clubs and you have a mini St Mary's setup. Could SW Antrim create a special project and get it of the ground get buy in from clubs as they will all stand to gain
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 06:21:10 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2022, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 28, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
not really sure what you want here Cloot.  Can't relocate St Louis and your posts suggest you feel its mindset cant be changed.

What I am driving at is that I think it is simply unrealistic to expect football ever to become the "main" game in St Louis or even for St Louis to get to and compete regularly at A level in football, no matter what steps the school may take to promote football.

In much of St Louis' hinterland, hurling is the main, if not the only, game. Soccer is strong in the area too. Those are just the realities.

As I pointed out in an earlier post, if a talented (or ambitious) footballer from the southwest is looking at secondary schools and sees St Louis' and St Mary's as equal academically, he goes to St Mary's if he wants a chance to play McRory. How can St Louis' ever be attractive to such a player from a football perspective?

That is the question being asked alright. So the discussion started off maligning our lack of schools competing in A competitions and even being consistent at the finishing line of B competitions. Alot of factors for that situation have been identified and some parts of a solution put forward in the context one one school St Louis.
No easy fix here fellas and we never even got started on the Belfast schools!
Months 13 odd years there's been 3 wins a b grade football in Belfast. Hurling still the main sport at both schools (La Salle, and St Mary's) that's where the silverware is and they'll keep going down that road, every now and again a decent football team comes along.

That being said and answered, are Belfast teams only winners of McRory cup in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 06:44:01 PM
Yes, MR which makes it twice as bad, because there should be so much tradition up there in the city that normally you would expect to trickle down through the generations. But that definitely does not seem to have happened.

The All Ireland under 21winning team were 95/% City men too, where's all that ability and interest and genepool disappeared to?

We play Fermanagh tomorrow night and if you take the players adoring families out of the equation you could count on a couple of hands the die hards who are there most of the time, through thick and thin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 07:22:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 06:44:01 PM
Yes, MR which makes it twice as bad, because there should be so much tradition up there in the city that normally you would expect to trickle down through the generations. But that definitely does not seem to have happened.

The All Ireland under 21winning team were 95/% City men too, where's all that ability and interest and genepool disappeared to?

We play Fermanagh tomorrow night and if you take the players adoring families out of the equation you could count on a couple of hands the die hards who are there most of the time, through thick and thin.

As has been said here many a time, Belfast is pish at football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 28, 2022, 09:09:47 PM
Lads it's like this, if casements lose I'm p####d off for the next fortnight, Antrim maybe the rest of the day and my weins school not really at all. I'd say 95% of Antrim gaels are the same and that's why we don't have a big push with said projects.
Club is king.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 09:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 28, 2022, 06:44:01 PM
Yes, MR which makes it twice as bad, because there should be so much tradition up there in the city that normally you would expect to trickle down through the generations. But that definitely does not seem to have happened.

The All Ireland under 21winning team were 95/% City men too, where's all that ability and interest and genepool disappeared to?

We play Fermanagh tomorrow night and if you take the players adoring families out of the equation you could count on a couple of hands the die hards who are there most of the time, through thick and thin.

The cub playing the u20s tomorrow in Fermanagh then the whole team for the seniors game, definitely help our representation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 28, 2022, 09:20:07 PM
St Mary's proceed to MacCrory final....1-10 to 1-07...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 09:23:33 PM
Conchuir Johnston had some game , brilliant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 28, 2022, 09:23:41 PM
Conhuir Johnston MOTM also, that's them good Derry schools coaching 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on January 28, 2022, 09:30:29 PM
Conhuir Johnston best player on the pitch by a country mile ,he really is a serious talent and a workhorse every game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 09:40:47 PM
Amazing result for our Antrim players on that team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 09:42:59 PM
What a player Conhuir is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 28, 2022, 09:59:15 PM
CJ has been a serious talent in the making for a good few years now. Has been standout in every team he has been on.
Has another year at that level as well. If he continues to develop he will be a serious player at the highest level.
A word for the coaching ticket there as well. A well prepared team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2022, 10:03:24 PM
CB has been telling me about CJ for about 20 years now and it looks like he might actually have got this one right. Another coaching managerial shout out to Ronan Devlin and Antrim legend Kevin Brady.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:07:51 PM
Big pat on the bench tomorrow I see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2022, 10:15:16 PM
Is that his brother playing for magherafelt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2022, 10:20:05 PM
Yep young Tom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2022, 10:25:29 PM
Him and Johnston are two boys I have read about for a few years. Didn't realise they were so young. Three cargin boys on the team and a portglenone and Antrim boy on the subs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 28, 2022, 10:32:52 PM
Conhuir Johnson is a phenomenal footballer.  Delighted to see him shine in MacRory, playing against the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 10:56:24 PM
Wouldn't get too carried away lads. Sure it's only Macrory cup football, it's not that important  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on January 28, 2022, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 28, 2022, 10:32:52 PM
Conhuir Johnson is a phenomenal footballer.  Delighted to see him shine in MacRory, playing against the best.

Ceist:  how does one pronounce "Conhuir"?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 10:56:24 PM
Wouldn't get too carried away lads. Sure it's only Macrory cup football, it's not that important  ::)

Did your lads no good  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 28, 2022, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on January 28, 2022, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 28, 2022, 10:32:52 PM
Conor
Conhuir Johnson is a phenomenal footballer.  Delighted to see him shine in MacRory, playing against the best.

Ceist:  how does one pronounce "Conhuir"?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 11:12:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 10:56:24 PM
Wouldn't get too carried away lads. Sure it's only Macrory cup football, it's not that important  ::)

Did your lads no good  ;)

Antrim could maybe put on a few buses and start bringing all the good footballers from Antrim to the good football schools in the different counties. Run a wee taxi bus from Belfast if they could fill it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 28, 2022, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 11:12:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 11:06:06 PM

Black taxi
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 10:56:24 PM
Wouldn't get too carried away lads. Sure it's only Macrory cup football, it's not that important  ::)

Did your lads no good  ;)

Antrim could maybe put on a few buses and start bringing all the good footballers from Antrim to the good football schools in the different counties. Run a wee taxi bus from Belfast if they could fill it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 28, 2022, 10:25:29 PM
Him and Johnston are two boys I have read about for a few years. Didn't realise they were so young. Three cargin boys on the team and a portglenone and Antrim boy on the subs.

Those boys will be getting the best of coaching and basically training and living like professional footballers during their school days. I can't understand how people don't see the benefits of Macrory cup football or even top end mcclarnon cup level. The boys at club level obviously need to be good enough to get on the panels but that type of football can bring decent footballers on that they become excellent footballers in the space of a year or 2. They are also in the shop window for Universities and access to top level football there too. Antrim need to start getting all of their schools competitive and winning C level and B level football competitions asap!  and then start thinking about getting competitive in Macrory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 28, 2022, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 11:12:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 11:06:06 PM

Black taxi
Quote from: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 10:56:24 PM
Wouldn't get too carried away lads. Sure it's only Macrory cup football, it's not that important  ::)

Did your lads no good  ;)

Antrim could maybe put on a few buses and start bringing all the good footballers from Antrim to the good football schools in the different counties. Run a wee taxi bus from Belfast if they could fill it.

Probably wouldn't even need a black taxi if Belfast don't get their act together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 28, 2022, 11:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2022, 04:26:12 PM
As much as football is the main sport in the SW, hurling will be the sport that has and will be for a while to come number one in St Louis, St Mary's and Cross and Passion.

I never knew St. Louis was a hurling school. I never really hear them winning much. I thought it was mainly Maghera and St Mary's Belfast who were the usual suspects for finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 11:33:28 PM
You're  taking the piss Jim, I suppose Oran Kearney has all the cross and passion lads playing soccer not hurling.

Cross and passion have really stepped up their work in hurling and camogie and Saint Louis have improved in the last 10 years with Dunloy input having helped. Around 10 of Dunloys winning team this year were past pupils of St Louis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 07:19:46 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 11:33:28 PM
You're  taking the piss Jim, I suppose Oran Kearney has all the cross and passion lads playing soccer not hurling.

Cross and passion have really stepped up their work in hurling and camogie and Saint Louis have improved in the last 10 years with Dunloy input having helped. Around 10 of Dunloys winning team this year were past pupils of St Louis

Not sure if it's true or not but from what I read on google, St. Louis have 1 title since 1990? I thought they would have favoured football over hurling in that school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 29, 2022, 08:25:19 AM
St Louis getting Loughgiel players now which I'm not sure historically would ever have been the case, but getting Loughgiel & Dunloy minors is some start to putting a team together
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 29, 2022, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 07:19:46 AM
Quote from: Dreen on January 28, 2022, 11:33:28 PM
You're  taking the piss Jim, I suppose Oran Kearney has all the cross and passion lads playing soccer not hurling.

Cross and passion have really stepped up their work in hurling and camogie and Saint Louis have improved in the last 10 years with Dunloy input having helped. Around 10 of Dunloys winning team this year were past pupils of St Louis

Not sure if it's true or not but from what I read on google, St. Louis have 1 title since 1990? I thought they would have favoured football over hurling in that school.

They are competing for success a lot better than they would have been historically but the Dunloy and Loughgiel players the main reason for that

I played Mageean hurling there and that said something of the standard at that time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 08:36:12 PM
Big win for the Saffrons......changes a plenty before easing  over the line with a good bit to spare....perfect start.

1-14 to 0-08
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 08:45:19 PM
Well now...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Great start! And seemed easy enough at the end. Were you on the line CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:18:33 PM
Wasn't there but a friend was, messaging me during it, he has been following Antrim for years, said it was fittest Antrim team he has ever seen. Well done lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:18:33 PM
Wasn't there but a friend was, messaging me during it, he has been following Antrim for years, said it was fittest Antrim team he has ever seen. Well done lads.

He was asking CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:18:33 PM

I wasn't replying to him mr2  I was stating a fact.
Just like your refereeing not seeing the overall play.
Wasn't there but a friend was, messaging me during it, he has been following Antrim for years, said it was fittest Antrim team he has ever seen. Well done lads.

He was asking CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 29, 2022, 09:41:32 PM
5/2 double Antrim and Derry. Money for oul rope.  Great start to the league, well deserved, Cargin men to the fore, with Mick the master and big shout out to wee Jamie who was superb. More feedback later, in Pat's Bar Enniskillen for a bite and a pint.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:18:33 PM

I wasn't replying to him mr2  I was stating a fact.
Just like your refereeing not seeing the overall play.
Wasn't there but a friend was, messaging me during it, he has been following Antrim for years, said it was fittest Antrim team he has ever seen. Well done lads.

He was asking CB

What a bizarre attack, he wasn't asking you but you stated fact then questioned my refereeing?  Very strange indeed. Carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 29, 2022, 09:55:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 29, 2022, 09:41:32 PM
5/2 double Antrim and Derry. Money for oul rope.  Great start to the league, well deserved, Cargin men to the fore, with Mick the master and big shout out to wee Jamie who was superb. More feedback later, in Pat's Bar Enniskillen for a bite and a pint.
Didn't get down but listened to radio coverage, Jamie seemed to be very influential. What a morale boosting win, McGinleys preparations for this season seem to be at another level than we're used to. Great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:58:25 PM
I know he wasn't asking me, I was posting to the wider group to let them know how impressed an observer was with the teams fitness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 09:58:25 PM
I know he wasn't asking me, I was posting to the wider group to let them know how impressed an observer was with the teams fitness.

But you then went on to question my refereeing? Bit strange, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:07:36 PM
mr2 can't be bothered getting into spat with you, not worth my drinking time. Main point being I wasn't replying to someone's question I was making a point .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Great start! And seemed easy enough at the end. Were you on the line CB?

Had Mc Ginley in my pocket.....needs must...

Long way from Toome and had to hold JG down until he got a couple of stitches....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Great start! And seemed easy enough at the end. Were you on the line CB?

Had Mc Ginley in my pocket.....needs must...

Long way from Toome and had to hold JG down until he got a couple of stitches....

Lol
You're doing a good job anyway CB!
Fair play to Mick. Hearing reports he was the best player on the pitch at 37 years of age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:07:36 PM
mr2 can't be bothered getting into spat with you, not worth my drinking time. Main point being I wasn't replying to someone's question I was making a point .

Can't be bothered cause you're drunk?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:37:52 PM
No but I will make a damn good attempt at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:40:45 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:37:52 PM
No but I will make a damn good attempt at it.

Stick to waving cars into the ground, seems about your limit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:49:42 PM
Never argue with fools.
BTW that statement sums you up. An air of arrogance looking down at folk, yeah I wave cars in and out of pitches but I DO NOT think I'm any better or worse than anyone of them, I'm a gael like them, equals. Not sure you could say the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:49:42 PM
Never argue with fools.
BTW that statement sums you up. An air of arrogance looking down at folk, yeah I wave cars in and out of pitches but I DO NOT think I'm any better or worse than anyone of them, I'm a gael like them, equals. Not sure you could say the same.

You're some dose, have a pop at me but when someone has one at you it's arrogant? Balloon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Great start! And seemed easy enough at the end. Were you on the line CB?

Had Mc Ginley in my pocket.....needs must...

Long way from Toome and had to hold JG down until he got a couple of stitches....

Lol
You're doing a good job anyway CB!
Fair play to Mick. Hearing reports he was the best player on the pitch at 37 years of age.

Try to please....ty....

Mick is a one off.....know him from he was a kid....smashing lad and a super footballer.
Long may he linger in Green.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 11:03:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:49:42 PM


Deflection from truth
Never argue with fools.
BTW that statement sums you up. An air of arrogance looking down at folk, yeah I wave cars in and out of pitches but I DO NOT think I'm any better or worse than anyone of them, I'm a gael like them, equals. Not sure you could say the same.

You're some dose, have a pop at me but when someone has one at you it's arrogant? Balloon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2022, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 09:13:49 PM
Great start! And seemed easy enough at the end. Were you on the line CB?

Had Mc Ginley in my pocket.....needs must...

Long way from Toome and had to hold JG down until he got a couple of stitches....

Lol
You're doing a good job anyway CB!
Fair play to Mick. Hearing reports he was the best player on the pitch at 37 years of age.

Try to please....ty....

Mick is a one off.....know him from he was a kid....smashing lad and a super footballer.
Long may he linger in Green.....

Played along with him from u16 to u21 and he wasn't anywhere near the best player on those teams until he got into his 20s. Really dedicated and worked hard and seriously improved into being one of the best in ulster by his mid 20s.
The problem is, who replaces him!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 29, 2022, 11:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:49:42 PM
Never argue with fools.
BTW that statement sums you up. An air of arrogance looking down at folk, yeah I wave cars in and out of pitches but I DO NOT think I'm any better or worse than anyone of them, I'm a gael like them, equals. Not sure you could say the same.

You're some dose, have a pop at me but when someone has one at you it's arrogant? Balloon

MR2, you may bring boxing gloves to Cargin and PG1 the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 11:07:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 11:03:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 10:49:42 PM


Deflection from truth
Never argue with fools.
BTW that statement sums you up. An air of arrogance looking down at folk, yeah I wave cars in and out of pitches but I DO NOT think I'm any better or worse than anyone of them, I'm a gael like them, equals. Not sure you could say the same.

You're some dose, have a pop at me but when someone has one at you it's arrogant? Balloon

Just like your refereeing not seeing the overall play.

Pure deflection  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 29, 2022, 11:19:02 PM
Great night to be saffron! Onwards and upwards hopefully a great year for all (mediocre one for mr2) joke!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 29, 2022, 11:26:22 PM
One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that, but it's starting to feel like we have a fairly settled panel with a good blend of experience, and managers who have done it all. The challenge now is to keep backing it up - I think that's where McGinley and O'Neill can really help the players with their mental approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2022, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 29, 2022, 11:26:22 PM
One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that, but it's starting to feel like we have a fairly settled panel with a good blend of experience, and managers who have done it all. The challenge now is to keep backing it up - I think that's where McGinley and O'Neill can really help the players with their mental approach.

Is it a joint management or is McGinely the boss?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2022, 10:13:33 AM
Enda is manager. It's been a while since we won a match in division three by nine points away from home, but tbh Fermanagh are now a year behind us with plenty of work to do. I was confident going into this one but let's keep feet on the ground, there are much harder tasks ahead. Limerick next up, they also won convincingly and will have revenge for Portglenone on their minds.

The team is in my opinion still in a state of flux and I expect a lot of tweaks before Enda knows his best 20 and how to use them. Jamie looked every inch a county player, and Paddy Mc Cormack would be a nailed on started in my book. He was faultless in the dozen or so contributions he made when in the pitch, and for me anyway was a county player of the season for Lenny in his debut year. Conor Murray has to start too, far too much class in his locker to be playing a bit part imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 30, 2022, 10:57:04 AM
Any one find it strange that cargin players old and young are all available now ? Under Cassidy funny everyone was retired , injured or building a house  ;D they are best tem in county and there lads playing making huge difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2022, 11:12:04 AM
No. McGinley is connected sure.

I found it interesting reading a Fermanagh review of the game from another thread. The poster seemed to think we were good at tactical fouling - it would be good if these boys made us a bit cuter. Also the Fermanagh poster was lauding Eastwood.

Great to start with a win. Onwards and upwards. We would want to be staying in this division at least. If we were going for promotion that would be a huge improvement. Limerick are a good team though so one step at a time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2022, 12:15:19 PM
Maybe the more organised, professional setup has attracted players in rather than McGinleys "connections". Enda, Stephen O Neill, Sean Kelly it speaks for itself. No harm to the last manager but Antrim we're very poor, some players starting that weren't at that standard, I can think of 2 or 3 that wouldn't make a decent club team and the results showed. Not the case now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 30, 2022, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2022, 12:15:19 PM
Maybe the more organised, professional setup has attracted players in rather than McGinleys "connections". Enda, Stephen O Neill, Sean Kelly it speaks for itself. No harm to the last manager but Antrim we're very poor, some players starting that weren't at that standard, I can think of 2 or 3 that wouldn't make a decent club team and the results showed. Not the case now.

I would agree with this. I think Lenny's set up wasn't anywhere near as professional going by what I was told and there were players who were useless in club championship games but somehow starting on a senior county team. Are the managers on a 3 year deal or is it a case of when a big county team comes looking Enda he will be away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 30, 2022, 02:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2022, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2022, 12:15:19 PM
Maybe the more organised, professional setup has attracted players in rather than McGinleys "connections". Enda, Stephen O Neill, Sean Kelly it speaks for itself. No harm to the last manager but Antrim we're very poor, some players starting that weren't at that standard, I can think of 2 or 3 that wouldn't make a decent club team and the results showed. Not the case now.

I would agree with this. I think Lenny's set up wasn't anywhere near as professional going by what I was told and there were players who were useless in club championship games but somehow starting on a senior county team. Are the managers on a 3 year deal or is it a case of when a big county team comes looking Enda he will be away.
I would imagine he'd be away at the drop of a hat if say Donegal came knocking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 30, 2022, 02:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2022, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2022, 12:15:19 PM
Maybe the more organised, professional setup has attracted players in rather than McGinleys "connections". Enda, Stephen O Neill, Sean Kelly it speaks for itself. No harm to the last manager but Antrim we're very poor, some players starting that weren't at that standard, I can think of 2 or 3 that wouldn't make a decent club team and the results showed. Not the case now.

I would agree with this. I think Lenny's set up wasn't anywhere near as professional going by what I was told and there were players who were useless in club championship games but somehow starting on a senior county team. Are the managers on a 3 year deal or is it a case of when a big county team comes looking Enda he will be away.
I would imagine he'd be away at the drop of a hat if say Donegal came knocking.

If he did go would CB go with him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 30, 2022, 04:09:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 30, 2022, 02:31:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2022, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2022, 12:15:19 PM
Maybe the more organised, professional setup has attracted players in rather than McGinleys "connections". Enda, Stephen O Neill, Sean Kelly it speaks for itself. No harm to the last manager but Antrim we're very poor, some players starting that weren't at that standard, I can think of 2 or 3 that wouldn't make a decent club team and the results showed. Not the case now.

I would agree with this. I think Lenny's set up wasn't anywhere near as professional going by what I was told and there were players who were useless in club championship games but somehow starting on a senior county team. Are the managers on a 3 year deal or is it a case of when a big county team comes looking Enda he will be away.
I would imagine he'd be away at the drop of a hat if say Donegal came knocking.

If he did go would CB go with him?

Depends on the coin!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2022, 06:26:36 PM
Focus on one game now and one thing only. Limerick next Saturday. Put all else out if our heads. And after that, Wicklow. We have a bit of momentum going, need to make hay before the tougher assignments kick in like Laois and Westmeath.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 04:38:01 PM
Following on our discussion last week re schools development, Holy Trinity Cookstown continue to break the mould for smashing tradition and creating their own by beating St Pat's Maghera and making it through to their first ever McRory cup final.

It's John McKeever and Peter Canavan versus Kevin Brady and Ronan Devlin in the battle along the line. Plenty of Antrim interest going on there too!

Shows what can be done with forward vision and a bit of hard work. Maybe some of our schools can channel that energy into something positive in next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wolfetones on January 31, 2022, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 31, 2022, 04:38:01 PM
Following on our discussion last week re schools development, Holy Trinity Cookstown continue to break the mould for smashing tradition and creating their own by beating St Pat's Maghera and making it through to their first ever McRory cup final.

It's John McKeever and Peter Canavan versus Kevin Brady and Ronan Devlin in the battle along the line. Plenty of Antrim interest going on there too!

Shows what can be done with forward vision and a bit of hard work. Maybe some of our schools can channel that energy into something positive in next few years.

And an "interesting" recruitment policy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 31, 2022, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 31, 2022, 04:38:01 PM
Following on our discussion last week re schools development, Holy Trinity Cookstown continue to break the mould for smashing tradition and creating their own by beating St Pat's Maghera and making it through to their first ever McRory cup final.

It's John McKeever and Peter Canavan versus Kevin Brady and Ronan Devlin in the battle along the line. Plenty of Antrim interest going on there too!

Shows what can be done with forward vision and a bit of hard work. Maybe some of our schools can channel that energy into something positive in next few years.

And an "interesting" recruitment policy.

What's that involve?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 31, 2022, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 31, 2022, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 31, 2022, 04:38:01 PM
Following on our discussion last week re schools development, Holy Trinity Cookstown continue to break the mould for smashing tradition and creating their own by beating St Pat's Maghera and making it through to their first ever McRory cup final.

It's John McKeever and Peter Canavan versus Kevin Brady and Ronan Devlin in the battle along the line. Plenty of Antrim interest going on there too!

Shows what can be done with forward vision and a bit of hard work. Maybe some of our schools can channel that energy into something positive in next few years.

And an "interesting" recruitment policy.
Teachers, Pupils or Both ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 05:39:04 PM
Do you think by any chance there was an extra few points awarded to an applicant who had a gaa profile and a committment to partake in the school GAA programme of excellence policy?

You definitely wouldn't have anything like that going on in Antrim schools, that's for sure!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Most here including myself agree 100% with all you say DIE. In Tyrone it's the B all and End all, only show in town. Support structure in place everywhere, most notably in every house where Mum is probably as passionate about GAA as Dad.

But... surely it's a reasonable expectation that at least one school in Antrim would grab the bull by the horns and aim to bring home a Grade B title at any age group.

Antrim schools are a nothing short of an embarrassment in this regard. Won't be long until Antrim teachers union will be out all faux rage, but the evidence is damning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 31, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Most here including myself agree 100% with all you say DIE. In Tyrone it's the B all and End all, only show in town. Support structure in place everywhere, most notably in every house where Mum is probably as passionate about GAA as Dad.

But... surely it's a reasonable expectation that at least one school in Antrim would grab the bull by the horns and aim to bring home a Grade B title at any age group.

Antrim schools are a nothing short of an embarrassment in this regard. Won't be long until Antrim teachers union will be out all faux rage, but the evidence is damning.

You've hit nail on head about one code counties, it's no surprise Monaghan Derry Tyrone Donegal and Armagh are good at football both at school and county.

Blaming schools or teachers for that matter isn't the full picture, Belfast and north Antrim schools concentrate on hurling, to have won 3 b grade football competitions in 14 years based on how our seniors do is decent.

For whatever reason Antrim supporters have an inflated view of where we are or where we should be, but unless the effort is put into the areas you've mentioned, GAA mum/dad structures club tournaments, games every week, no hurling and so on then you might get improved performances further down the road.

It's surprising that your club hasn't had better results considering it's a single code club without the distractions of hurling  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 08:41:58 PM
Not buying that at all. Too easy to adopt that attitude and  sure if that's the case why not just pack up altogether and don't waste the money on entry fees.

I went to a school in Antrim and we worked very hard at it, got beaten in a Mc Larnon final, after taking a few decent skelps along the way. The team that best us (De La Salle Ballyshannon) had 7 on Donegal under 21 team that win all ireland and 4 made panel when Donegal won All Ireland.

They went on to win All Ireland B colleges after that.  We had no county stars, not one, but hard work and sheer determination by one school teacher almost got us there.

Now it just looks like no one cares.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 08:43:55 PM
Ok we are going to wheel out the excuse we are all playing hurling now.

One thing we are good at is making excuses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 31, 2022, 08:43:55 PM
Ok we are going to wheel out the excuse we are all playing hurling now.

One thing we are good at is making excuses.

But it's a split county with divided resources and two competitive competitions... don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that.

We are also very club concentrated and the county teams don't have the buy in others do, how do you fix that one? City verse county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 31, 2022, 09:20:03 PM
Calling schools an embarrassment, who are you actually blaming for that BS, who is ultimately responsible?

You are spot on in your example of the team you played in, I saw something similar when 1 man took the bull by the horns and brought about success. Although he did have plenty of talent to work with
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 09:20:54 PM
Easy. Clubs take responsibility for proper development of its juveniles. Send a better standard of player into the secondary schools. Start of on broader, better base.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on January 31, 2022, 09:27:33 PM
If we could get clubs doing that we will be in a strong position alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 31, 2022, 09:32:47 PM
Exactly Dreen. All roads lead back to club juvenile development. Without that we have no hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:41:15 PM
Maghera win both hurling and football and they're not a hurling county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:41:15 PM
Maghera win both hurling and football and they're not a hurling county.

S'niel would have something to say about that for 5/6 years

Derry do extremely well at school under age, no commitment after leaving school for hurling at county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:47:44 PM
Schools football isn't important in Antrim. Sport in general doesn't seem to be that important in antrim schools apart from the rugby schools. Belfast schools like Rathmore are no more interested in GAA. Big schools like St. Malachy's as well, all just ticking boxes that they're into sport. They're more worried about their ETI reports than winning Gaelic football matches. It's the same at primary school level. The leagues are half organised. 20 mins down the road in Lurgan you've got a primary school league that is better organised than the Antrim minor league ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:41:15 PM
Maghera win both hurling and football and they're not a hurling county.

S'niel would have something to say about that for 5/6 years

Derry do extremely well at school under age, no commitment after leaving school for hurling at county

Maghera were winning long before Sneil were winning. I'd say it's more to do with the ethos of the school and attitude towards sport.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:41:15 PM
Maghera win both hurling and football and they're not a hurling county.

S'niel would have something to say about that for 5/6 years

Derry do extremely well at school under age, no commitment after leaving school for hurling at county

Maghera were winning long before Sneil were winning. I'd say it's more to do with the ethos of the school and attitude towards sport.

Again like i said after they leave school they concentrate on football, there is generally one good team in Derry, Lavey, Dungiven, now S'niel. The rest wouldn't be over concerned as football at clubs will always be king.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 31, 2022, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2022, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2022, 09:41:15 PM
Maghera win both hurling and football and they're not a hurling county.

S'niel would have something to say about that for 5/6 years

Derry do extremely well at school under age, no commitment after leaving school for hurling at county

Maghera were winning long before Sneil were winning. I'd say it's more to do with the ethos of the school and attitude towards sport.

Ethos & catchment (as with any school)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 01, 2022, 06:18:46 AM
Apart from all the issues that have mentioned in relation to Schools/Teachers the other big elephant in the room is COIN! You can go and get anything from 7k- 40k for a season committing to a club these days, why would you stay after school when you can command these sums either as a manager or member of a back room team! Our association has created a rod for our own back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2022, 07:28:53 AM
There's no doubt that is a valid point WWB but the four mentors involved in the McRory cup final are all deeply involved in club teams too.

JMK is not only manager at Casements seniors but is highly involved in our clubs juvenile development programme, and will be out three slots a week with our under 11s. And not charging a penny despite fact he could be earning good coin elsewhere. Peter Canavan has massive committments elsewhere too, and Ronan Devlin and Kevin Brady also have full on club responsibilities.They somehow find a way to fit it all in.

The difference is when they took the position in the school they accepted their role was to develop gaelic football aspirations there, and they have been true to their word. That's the difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 07:46:32 AM
Bannside in all fairness when applying for a job nowadays it's not based on your after school activities and what you can bring to it. If it was then the school would be setting itself up for a fall.

If I was applying for a job and didn't get it because the other person was a GAA man I'd be fuming and wanting to see why I didn't get it based on the teaching side of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 01, 2022, 08:20:32 AM
I went to school at St Louis not so long ago.

We would have had a very strong team who could definitely have competed at McRory level. Instead we played in the McLarnon Cup with a couple of half assed trainings sessions from a substitute teacher. There was no interest from the school at all which inevitably filtered through to the players.

The talent was there. I can count 6 players from that team who have played senior football for the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 08:40:38 AM
So I'll go back to my original point, good schools appoint someone in the role of sports director, that's if they are serious, if not the sport at school is recreational, as it was originally for
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2022, 09:54:14 AM
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.  You can still have a top educational setting alongside a top extra curricular setting. I would personally suggest it is more beneficial for a well rounded person as long as the set up is correct and one element is not to the detriment of the other. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 01, 2022, 09:54:47 AM
When I did have a seat on County Committee in the distant past heard 'discussion' aplenty on how/why our county was left well in arrears of successful neighbours in our province.
The lack of success in our secondary schools was cited as prime cause and had a representative/teacher from within telling delegates that after schools activity for essential training was outside curriculum and unpaid so not contemplated...

I was silly enough on one occasion to hold Derry schools up as an example Antrim blueprint.
When the meeting closed was told by one county officer, no longer with us, in his words, "Fcuk off to Derry with your club and stay in it.

Have related the dismay at how our youngsters were treated when they made "county " under aged squads....lack of county gear provided and in cases food not provided.
Hands up those busy on this site then and still loud within strongly disagreed and suggested this 'elite lads' should bring a packed lunch.

Much has changed in our county in the care of you young Saffrons nowadays, but we have a ling ways to travel in our schools which continue to trail well in arrears of our neighbours and a Mac Crory cup is but a forlorn ambition.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2022, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2022, 09:54:47 AM
When I did have a seat on County Committee in the distant past heard 'discussion' aplenty on how/why our county was left well in arrears of successful neighbours in our province.
The lack of success in our secondary schools was cited as prime cause and had a representative/teacher from within telling delegates that after schools activity for essential training was outside curriculum and unpaid so not contemplated...

I was silly enough on one occasion to hold Derry schools up as an example Antrim blueprint.
When the meeting closed was told by one county officer, no longer with us, in his words, "Fcuk off to Derry with your club and stay in it.

Have related the dismay at how our youngsters were treated when they made "county " under aged squads....lack of county gear provided and in cases food not provided.
Hands up those busy on this site then and still loud within strongly disagreed and suggested this 'elite lads' should bring a packed lunch.

Much has changed in our county in the care of you young Saffrons nowadays, but we have a ling ways to travel in our schools which continue to trail well in arrears of our neighbours and a Mac Crory cup is but a forlorn ambition.

there are none so blind as those who will not see

you can now add Holy Trinity into the mix for the mid ulster hotbed of football.  lots of clubs from 3 counties served by these schools.  Despite limited numbers to pick from in relation to other clubs, the best two teams in our county have the vast majority of their players coming out the south derry school system. Even when not winning, these clubs have been overperforming.  Surely not a coincidence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2022, 10:25:23 AM
No one talking McRory here by the way, let's talk about being competitive in Mc Larnon and the Grade B age groups first.
I'm tired going round in circles discussing schools tbh. The newly appointed DOF should be coming with a plan to tackle this underperforming sector. We laid a solution at the door last week courtesy of Saffsof82 suggestion.

Maybe something positive might arise from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 01, 2022, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 07:46:32 AM
Bannside in all fairness when applying for a job nowadays it's not based on your after school activities and what you can bring to it. If it was then the school would be setting itself up for a fall.

If I was applying for a job and didn't get it because the other person was a GAA man I'd be fuming and wanting to see why I didn't get it based on the teaching side of things.

The Tyrone lads seem to find it easy finding permanent jobs in schools!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 01, 2022, 10:33:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 07:46:32 AM
Bannside in all fairness when applying for a job nowadays it's not based on your after school activities and what you can bring to it. If it was then the school would be setting itself up for a fall.

If I was applying for a job and didn't get it because the other person was a GAA man I'd be fuming and wanting to see why I didn't get it based on the teaching side of things.

You see this is where your mindset is part of the problem. I know that these guys are capable teachers, but desirable criteria is you will put a coaching shift into develop our school teams to reflect the culture of our communities. Check out the schools in Tyrone and who takes their teams, predominately ex players and alot ex county. Kerry is very similar.  These are strategies, two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 10:53:03 AM
And that's great if you can get a teacher that'll ensure better grades and a decent school team.

personally for me Id prefer my kids to get a good education first. Id prefer the best person in the job, and not because he/she played county, too much of that crap went on in the past and the best teacher was overlooked because you're man played GAA.

Clubs have kids long before they go to school, it's there that the interest and development starts.

These schools have only one sport that matters. Same in the big rugby schools, other sports are overlooked. Antrim failings are not down to poor school involvement in A grade or B grade competitions.

If you feel that's why Antrim is a yo-yo div 4/3 team that's fine, I don't see it that way.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 01, 2022, 11:09:59 AM
I think you'll find these schools produce academic results first and foremost. Lazy analysis and ill informed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2022, 11:12:09 AM
You're missing the point, actually a few of them.

You can have teachers that can do both education and sport

You can have a school ethos with both sport and education at the forefront, equally performing well.  All these schools are top schools for education.

You are on the Antrim Football discussion board so with all due respect, any issues with hurling should be on the Antrim hurling discussion board

The county or football experience is an added bonus that differentiates two excellent candidates from each other. Its the same in any walk of life or going or an interview with any company - the company has a strategy and an ethos. 

Relying on sheer population numbers to generate top performers is a strategy that has left Antrim GAA playing catch up with the GAA fraternity.  If you don't adapt and change with the times, then you get left behind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 01, 2022, 12:26:22 PM
Any school would need someone driving football first mentality and it is either hit it lucky with someone just appearing or put that person in place.

There won't be a massive number of capable people for that role and to appoint say a head of PE purely on their Gaelic Football prowess would take a lot of work within a school to make happen.

Clubs need to be providing the calibre of players and we cannot say that in Antrim we are bring enough quality through our schools to compete with the schools in the competitions on a regular basis.

Cesar what year was that St Louis team, saying it could have competed at Macrory is a big speak
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 01, 2022, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 10:53:03 AM
And that's great if you can get a teacher that'll ensure better grades and a decent school team.

personally for me Id prefer my kids to get a good education first. Id prefer the best person in the job, and not because he/she played county, too much of that crap went on in the past and the best teacher was overlooked because you're man played GAA.

Clubs have kids long before they go to school, it's there that the interest and development starts.

These schools have only one sport that matters. Same in the big rugby schools, other sports are overlooked. Antrim failings are not down to poor school involvement in A grade or B grade competitions.

If you feel that's why Antrim is a yo-yo div 4/3 team that's fine, I don't see it that way.

Would you not rather they went to a GAA school that does decent in exams as well? Because that's what all these places do. There's an argument that the likes of Rathmore push education too much and not enough on the sporting side of things.

And I agree with you that schools aren't the reason why Antrim are crap. But it's definitely part of the overall problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 01:13:49 PM
Looks like leagues going ahead with a 6th March start according to feedback from the meeting last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2022, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 01, 2022, 11:09:59 AM
I think you'll find these schools produce academic results first and foremost. Lazy analysis and ill informed

I think you'll find (if you read back) that I agreed that these schools in Derry produce great results as Spike had mention, that lazy analysis and being ill informed on your part

My point is personal to education not sport, I just said that in the past this was the case for a lot of people who got jobs due to their background. I don't personally pick a school based on sport is all I said, there are many factors.

Antrim football has been poor not because of bad performances in schools, even when we did win Hogan cup we were still poor, we'd won three McLarnon cups in 14 years and that's Belfast schools only, we still struggled to get out of div 4 when those lads came through.

Stop looking at schools to fix or even improve. that horse has bolted and the mind set of someone up the country is to send their kids to the Derry schools  for that better education and better GAA attention. it will if they develop, improve our football anyways.

Ive been to many of these games over the years and been lucky enough to see these schools and how they are conditioned, they are streets ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2022, 05:13:43 PM
You're correct - it isnt all ANtrim football's ills, but the secondary school turnaround would be a big help. 

We are at a very low base so the good news is that the only way is up - and thats starts from the underage at the clubs and the primary schools
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 01, 2022, 05:51:54 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 01, 2022, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 01, 2022, 09:54:47 AM
When I did have a seat on County Committee in the distant past heard 'discussion' aplenty on how/why our county was left well in arrears of successful neighbours in our province.
The lack of success in our secondary schools was cited as prime cause and had a representative/teacher from within telling delegates that after schools activity for essential training was outside curriculum and unpaid so not contemplated...

I was silly enough on one occasion to hold Derry schools up as an example Antrim blueprint.
When the meeting closed was told by one county officer, no longer with us, in his words, "Fcuk off to Derry with your club and stay in it.

Have related the dismay at how our youngsters were treated when they made "county " under aged squads....lack of county gear provided and in cases food not provided.
Hands up those busy on this site then and still loud within strongly disagreed and suggested this 'elite lads' should bring a packed lunch.

Much has changed in our county in the care of you young Saffrons nowadays, but we have a ling ways to travel in our schools which continue to trail well in arrears of our neighbours and a Mac Crory cup is but a forlorn ambition.

there are none so blind as those who will not see

you can now add Holy Trinity into the mix for the mid ulster hotbed of football.  lots of clubs from 3 counties served by these schools.  Despite limited numbers to pick from in relation to other clubs, the best two teams in our county have the vast majority of their players coming out the south derry school system. Even when not winning, these clubs have been overperforming.  Surely not a coincidence.
And Holy Trinity were a MacLarnon school just a few years ago. It can be done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on February 01, 2022, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?

So ask them...I can give you an email address for one or two of them if you're wanting to bang on that drum again? But you haven't saw it on social media or something so there's nothing happening?
Good healthy discussion in here about how we impact change in secondary schools but you want to leave it to someone else (Gaelfast) again.
I have heard previous on here that they were working in some schools on S&C as well as coaching, but ultimately it comes back to the school and it's stakeholders. Unless schools, it's staff within and parents/players and clubs put a push on the school for more, then how can we ever expect change.
Gaelfast are a body of staff, a small body of staff at that, led by whoever is voted in as chair and do whatever Croke Park tell them, it seems. Not bashing them, but not expecting massive change in a matter of 2 years (accounting for furlough).
Liked the idea in here of a staff member being part-funded by GAA to work within a school for the development of GAA. Happens in St Marys College Belfast and UUJ with Gavin McGilly and Paul Rouse, and they are heavily involved in the football teams there. The demands on teachers are huge and they'll see their main job of educating as the important part- particularly in Belfast.
If we fed them Better players, I feel it'd be half the battle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: Ciall on February 01, 2022, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?

So ask them...I can give you an email address for one or two of them if you're wanting to bang on that drum again? But you haven't saw it on social media or something so there's nothing happening?
Good healthy discussion in here about how we impact change in secondary schools but you want to leave it to someone else (Gaelfast) again.
I have heard previous on here that they were working in some schools on S&C as well as coaching, but ultimately it comes back to the school and it's stakeholders. Unless schools, it's staff within and parents/players and clubs put a push on the school for more, then how can we ever expect change.
Gaelfast are a body of staff, a small body of staff at that, led by whoever is voted in as chair and do whatever Croke Park tell them, it seems. Not bashing them, but not expecting massive change in a matter of 2 years (accounting for furlough).
Liked the idea in here of a staff member being part-funded by GAA to work within a school for the development of GAA. Happens in St Marys College Belfast and UUJ with Gavin McGilly and Paul Rouse, and they are heavily involved in the football teams there. The demands on teachers are huge and they'll see their main job of educating as the important part- particularly in Belfast.
If we fed them Better players, I feel it'd be half the battle
what's it like working for Gaelfast? Lol . Chill out lad . I was only asking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2022, 09:31:28 PM
Some great points and discussion on this subject.

It is coming across fairly clear that schools are unlikely to implement a whole new ethos based around GAA. It's too much of a leap for many schools and when they look into the calibre or willingness of teachers availability to lead this out, they aren't inspired.

So what can WE do.

(1) Deliver a better standard of player into year 8 from work already done at primary level or within clubs, and (2) let's see if schools would be up for the challenge if they thought there was meaningful coaching and financial support provided.

Both these things are achievable, and I know in SW quite a few clubs are working harder than before with their juveniles and without doubt a few in the city are increasing their focus in this area.

Someone needs to lead the second project, it's a sales job, but if professionally presented, has a great chance of buy in from the three partners, co board, school and SBF or sponsors.

It's a 3 -5 year journey, maybe more, but it needs to start somewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 01, 2022, 10:00:57 PM
Plenty of great ideas but was this not under the remit of the multi million Gaelfast programme.
This appears to have fallen off the radar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on February 01, 2022, 10:33:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: Ciall on February 01, 2022, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?

So ask them...I can give you an email address for one or two of them if you're wanting to bang on that drum again? But you haven't saw it on social media or something so there's nothing happening?
Good healthy discussion in here about how we impact change in secondary schools but you want to leave it to someone else (Gaelfast) again.
I have heard previous on here that they were working in some schools on S&C as well as coaching, but ultimately it comes back to the school and it's stakeholders. Unless schools, it's staff within and parents/players and clubs put a push on the school for more, then how can we ever expect change.
Gaelfast are a body of staff, a small body of staff at that, led by whoever is voted in as chair and do whatever Croke Park tell them, it seems. Not bashing them, but not expecting massive change in a matter of 2 years (accounting for furlough).
Liked the idea in here of a staff member being part-funded by GAA to work within a school for the development of GAA. Happens in St Marys College Belfast and UUJ with Gavin McGilly and Paul Rouse, and they are heavily involved in the football teams there. The demands on teachers are huge and they'll see their main job of educating as the important part- particularly in Belfast.
If we fed them Better players, I feel it'd be half the battle
what's it like working for Gaelfast? Lol . Chill out lad . I was only asking

More so just an Antrim GAA supporter who tries to keep positive about anything good in the county and my club rather than complaining.
Happy to call out stupid sh*t when I see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2022, 10:39:58 PM
That's a great initiative by our county treasurer Donal Murphy to allow all juveniles in for free on Saturday for our game against Limerick if accompanied by team mentors. Some smart thinking that could pay rich dividends down the tracks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 01, 2022, 10:43:11 PM
Big shout out to the genius that is Sean Kelly on his appointment as head of IT, marketing and PR at Ulster Council. No better man for the job!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on February 01, 2022, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 01, 2022, 09:31:28 PM
Some great points and discussion on this subject.

It is coming across fairly clear that schools are unlikely to implement a whole new ethos based around GAA. It's too much of a leap for many schools and when they look into the calibre or willingness of teachers availability to lead this out, they aren't inspired.

So what can WE do.

(1) Deliver a better standard of player into year 8 from work already done at primary level or within clubs, and (2) let's see if schools would be up for the challenge if they thought there was meaningful coaching and financial support provided.

Both these things are achievable, and I know in SW quite a few clubs are working harder than before with their juveniles and without doubt a few in the city are increasing their focus in this area.

Someone needs to lead the second project, it's a sales job, but if professionally presented, has a great chance of buy in from the three partners, co board, school and SBF or sponsors.

It's a 3 -5 year journey, maybe more, but it needs to start somewhere.

So when do you start Bannside?  ;D
It's a big ask for anyone in fairness but it's definitely needed. There was, and likely still is, a tradition in Belfast of kids going to St Marys to play better grade football/hurling. The teachers in St Marys- Paddy Cunningham, Paddy Linden, Sean Kelly to name a few have a wealth of knowledge that could be utilised. So there's a Belfast option right away.
Unlike BGAAM I grew a set and I've just asked a member of staff in Gaelfast what they do-
- S&C support for St Marys Belfast and St Louis Grammar
- each staff member has at least 2 post primary schools to coach in each week for a set period of weeks
- St Marys Belfast- both Gerard McNulty and Sean McKenna in providing coaching support to the football squads.
- free coach education entry to any teachers in the schools.
Not as bad as I'd have thought, but not enough on its own either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?

Why, who did you ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 02, 2022, 12:02:38 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 01, 2022, 10:39:58 PM
That's a great initiative by our county treasurer Donal Murphy to allow all juveniles in for free on Saturday for our game against Limerick if accompanied by team mentors. Some smart thinking that could pay rich dividends down the tracks.
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Yep,treasurer seems to be driving a lot at the moment, do you think he will be pushing to be chairman BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 02, 2022, 07:33:53 AM
Haven't seen anything in relation to a "way forward" from our new Director of Football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2022, 08:17:48 AM
I'd keep Donal where he is Saffs lol, doing a great job for the club as well as the county!

Indeed WWB, all very quiet on that front. But we should not rush to make judgements, these things take time. It would be good to know what initiatives are planned though or what Gearoid plans to change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 02, 2022, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?

Why, who did you ask?
Because I would like to know what they are doing as an Antrim Gael. I find it strange that if Gaelfast are supposed to be promoting GAA in ANtrim and it's not in the varoius media I look at where it very easy to get coverage. I read INews every day and see hundreds of trivial posts in facebook etc so why should you have to contact Gaelfast for an update? Are they PR shy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 02, 2022, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 02, 2022, 07:33:53 AM
Haven't seen anything in relation to a "way forward" from our new Director of Football?

Over 4 months have passed since the appointment of our new Director Of Football. It's fair to expect some details of his plan to have been shared before now.

It would also be interesting to know the remit and what the selection process was for the role.

I don't want to be too critical without knowing the facts but there are certainly a few questions that need answered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 02, 2022, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 02, 2022, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
Secondary schools should be part of Gaelfast plan. No point doing works with primary kids only and if going to waste. Haven't heard much about Gaelfast recently?

Why, who did you ask?
Because I would like to know what they are doing as an Antrim Gael. I find it strange that if Gaelfast are supposed to be promoting GAA in ANtrim and it's not in the varoius media I look at where it very easy to get coverage. I read INews every day and see hundreds of trivial posts in facebook etc so why should you have to contact Gaelfast for an update? Are they PR shy?

I think that's a fair point to make BG. If there is good work going on then shout it from the rooftops and stick it all over social media.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 07:57:06 AM
All that is being said on here but about schools and making more effort is true, but what about things that we can control that we aren't doing. Any follower on social media can look at what Derry are doing. GAA Hubs created at Celtic Park and Meadowbank for 6 weeks winter go games. We a really poor at this stuff. Other counties have go games every week, at some levels last season 3 or 4 Go Game dates between April and September - Not good enough, not enough emphasis put on this. This is where we will continue to lag behind other counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 03, 2022, 08:50:35 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 07:57:06 AM
All that is being said on here but about schools and making more effort is true, but what about things that we can control that we aren't doing. Any follower on social media can look at what Derry are doing. GAA Hubs created at Celtic Park and Meadowbank for 6 weeks winter go games. We a really poor at this stuff. Other counties have go games every week, at some levels last season 3 or 4 Go Game dates between April and September - Not good enough, not enough emphasis put on this. This is where we will continue to lag behind other counties.

Are go games Divisional board supervision?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 03, 2022, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 07:57:06 AM
All that is being said on here but about schools and making more effort is true, but what about things that we can control that we aren't doing. Any follower on social media can look at what Derry are doing. GAA Hubs created at Celtic Park and Meadowbank for 6 weeks winter go games. We a really poor at this stuff. Other counties have go games every week, at some levels last season 3 or 4 Go Game dates between April and September - Not good enough, not enough emphasis put on this. This is where we will continue to lag behind other counties.

Gaelfast had 'super  games' winter leagues going for football & hurling , open to every club in Antrim!
There are plenty of Go Games organised in the divisional boards, but Covid did impact this , strangely !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on February 03, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
Just catching up on the conversation, ref schools, are good first step would be to create a Co Antrim schools championship, create some local rivalry.  Kerry and Cork do this, and vocational schools used to have this structure.

Might be a small step in creating the GAA coulture that we were discussing eariler
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 03:58:27 PM
Oh aye Covid, that's why we are poorly organised at Go Games, should of realised that! So nothing to worry about here, everything is in hand??

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 03, 2022, 04:03:49 PM
 :o
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 03:58:27 PM
Oh aye Covid, that's why we are poorly organised at Go Games, should of realised that! So nothing to worry about here, everything is in hand??

Go games , go alternate weeks for each single year group from u7 to u 11, there are as many games as you want to play in !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:04:50 PM
What if I want to play now, but they don't start until the end of April?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 03, 2022, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:04:50 PM
What if I want to play now, but they don't start until the end of April?

Im sure , you can book a 3g and invite  a few clubs along by yourself !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 03, 2022, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

There was a message out during the week from sw about go games starting in a couple of weeks and asking who wanted a team in, think Karol Doherty is the organiser , you should give him a ring sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 03, 2022, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

There was a message out during the week from sw about go games starting in a couple of weeks and asking who wanted a team in, think Karol Doherty is the organiser , you should give him a ring sure.
Good man thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
What a stupid snide comment, as expected from yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 03, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
What a stupid snide comment, as expected from yourself.

Plenty of Go games
U8s max 7 a side :  10am to 11am (Open cages at Brooke LC

U9   max 7 a side :   11am to 12 noon (Open cages at Brooke LC

U7 max   7 a side  :  12 noon -2pm  ( Covered cages at Brooke LC


U10 max 6 a side :   12 noon -1pm ( Open cages at Brooke LC

U11 max 11 a side : 12 noon -3pm Woodlands 4G

Starting 26th Feb


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
What a stupid snide comment, as expected from yourself.

Relax, you are on their doorstep, and with the effort they are putting into go games and juvenile set ups and schools then it would be a good idea, while waiting on the next Antrim one to fill in there?

Very touchy, you're the one being snide about Antrim being rosy. I was just asking the question, but I'm snide.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 03, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
What a stupid snide comment, as expected from yourself.

Plenty of Go games
U8s max 7 a side :  10am to 11am (Open cages at Brooke LC

U9   max 7 a side :   11am to 12 noon (Open cages at Brooke LC

U7 max   7 a side  :  12 noon -2pm  ( Covered cages at Brooke LC


U10 max 6 a side :   12 noon -1pm ( Open cages at Brooke LC

U11 max 11 a side : 12 noon -3pm Woodlands 4G

Apparently not, you've just put that up there to take the piss  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 06:58:00 PM
Thanks for the info delgany, although it has no relevance to any Sw club when's it starting looks good. My point was in the SW Go games aren't planned to start until after Easter (I was told this recently by Karol). I was pointing out we are missing a trick not starting earlier.
MR2 great to see you are interested in go games, this could be your new forte.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 06:58:00 PM
Thanks for the info delgany, although it has no relevance to any Sw club when's it starting looks good. My point was in the SW Go games aren't planned to start until after Easter (I was told this recently by Karol). I was pointing out we are missing a trick not starting earlier.
MR2 great to see you are interested in go games, this could be your new forte.

I was involved with go games from the very start, I was also involved with the indoor hurling when I started.

I did take that age group for many years. Travelled the length and breadth of the province.

We organised tournaments and then other clubs did the same, the set up was given and the clubs got on with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 03, 2022, 07:11:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 06:58:00 PM
Thanks for the info delgany, although it has no relevance to any Sw club when's it starting looks good. My point was in the SW Go games aren't planned to start until after Easter (I was told this recently by Karol). I was pointing out we are missing a trick not starting earlier.
MR2 great to see you are interested in go games, this could be your new forte.

I was involved with go games from the very start, I was also involved with the indoor hurling when I started.

I did take that age group for many years. Travelled the length and breadth of the province.

We organised tournaments and then other clubs did the same, the set up was given and the clubs got on with it.

Lack of 3g pitches may be the main problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on February 03, 2022, 07:55:01 PM
EOC is 💯% right about go games.last year was what it was because of covid and we got games for the kids and in the circumstances it was ok.It has been mentioned before about having to compete with soccer and matches every week with the go games it is a game every 3 weeks which isn't enough.The kids need more games and we need a way of keeping the teams more evenly matched so the games are competitive while still fun as there is to many miss matches especially at u9&u11 and nobody develops or learns at that age from getting badly beaten.Not sure how we sort this possibly the results from first few games are recorded and then groups are made according to how the teams preformed .Good coaching is the most important aspect as everyone knows but good competitive games regularly has to help the standard of kids entering year 8 and being of a standard that they can compete for there place on school teams.We need to change things as we can't keep doing the same thing and questioning what other counties are doing when we are at the bottom of the pile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 03, 2022, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 03, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
What a stupid snide comment, as expected from yourself.

Plenty of Go games
U8s max 7 a side :  10am to 11am (Open cages at Brooke LC

U9   max 7 a side :   11am to 12 noon (Open cages at Brooke LC

U7 max   7 a side  :  12 noon -2pm  ( Covered cages at Brooke LC


U10 max 6 a side :   12 noon -1pm ( Open cages at Brooke LC

U11 max 11 a side : 12 noon -3pm Woodlands 4G

Starting 26th Feb
Is that football? that's encourging to see and didn't have to ring anyone to find out :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on February 03, 2022, 10:09:31 PM
This thread is turning into hard work for a Mod.

Posters seem to be aware of each other's identity and make seemingly crass comments toward each other.  Sometimes it looks like banter, but sometimes it hits a harder blow.

So I'll ask ALL posters to cop on a small bit.  Leave the personal stuff off the board.

Otherwise bans will be forthcoming.

Mod5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on February 03, 2022, 11:22:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 03, 2022, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 03, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
That's a great idea, I'll do that. And thanks it's great to know everything in Antrim is perfect. Cheers

Would Derry invite you into their go games while waiting on Antrim go games are fixed?
What a stupid snide comment, as expected from yourself.

Plenty of Go games
U8s max 7 a side :  10am to 11am (Open cages at Brooke LC

U9   max 7 a side :   11am to 12 noon (Open cages at Brooke LC

U7 max   7 a side  :  12 noon -2pm  ( Covered cages at Brooke LC
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U10 max 6 a side :   12 noon -1pm ( Open cages at Brooke LC

U11 max 11 a side : 12 noon -3pm Woodlands 4G

Starting 26th Feb
Is that football? that's encourging to see and didn't have to ring anyone to find out :o

Do a bit for your club and you'll get the correspondence rather than asking on an anonymous forum.
Go Games are divisional board run- SA and Gaelfast seem to work together on the Belfast Go Games on a weekly alternating basis (albeit the clubs do the heavy lifting most of the time), don't know why it's not the same arrangement in SW and NA with Gaelfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 03, 2022, 11:28:47 PM
Sack the football lads. Yous are no good at it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 04, 2022, 08:47:08 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 27, 2022, 08:21:20 PM
Why do our gaa men in schools not push gaa? I'm baffled! La salle barely fielded as last number of seasons in gaa though flat out at soccer yet staff full of gaa lads

Going back a few pages i know but had to reply.

i totally agree.

my son goes to one of the top grammar schools in the county (you can probably guess without me naming them), where i went to as well, and he says the standard of the football is atrocious because they don't seem to care about it at all.

they have the facilities, there are members of staff taking the team that have a very strong background, from one of the best teams in ulster, yet he says training sessions are little more than throw a ball in and play matches for the session.

i get that focusing on academic achievement is what a school should be focusing on and it it serving them well in that aspect, but you would think that they could give the football a bit more effort for the added prestige it would bring.

when i was there we got to an all ireland b final (only with a minor part played by me on that panel!!) but i don't think they have got close to that since, certainly in football.

i am certain they definitely lose boys over to Maghera and Magehrafelt as a result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 04, 2022, 09:01:46 AM
Good points on that oggie and shows the level of effort being put into coach teams isn't to the standard it would need to be.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2022, 09:29:26 AM
I know from the work load my wife does for working as a teacher both at school and work taken home to mark is a lot, which carries its own stress, timetables are not as flexible as before nor are there as many frees to be had as before, so hats off to anyone that completes a days work and all their other activities to then go out and coach/train/prepare school teams that compete every year.

As much as you love the game doing both and being committed to raising the standards can be very hard, must be easy to sit as a parent and look in and complain and about the lack of effort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 04, 2022, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2022, 09:29:26 AM
I know from the work load my wife does for working as a teacher both at school and work taken home to mark is a lot, which carries its own stress, timetables are not as flexible as before nor are there as many frees to be had as before, so hats off to anyone that completes a days work and all their other activities to then go out and coach/train/prepare school teams that compete every year.

As much as you love the game doing both and being committed to raising the standards can be very hard, must be easy to sit as a parent and look in and complain and about the lack of effort

my wife is a teacher as well so i totally understand the workload.

i work full time and coach a few underage teams at my club so again, i see how hard it is to jump into it after a long day at work but i still do it.

but my point is that either, and talking about that specific school, the direction from above is to not put too much effort into it, or the teachers themselves, despite being very good gaa people, just aren't bothered and they are getting away with it because it isn't a priority.

as dreen mentioned before, all it takes is one person with a bit of drive and things can change, as was seen with what happened in the 90s.

it just appears that in ballymena there is no one with that drive at the minute and it would be great if someone could want to push that now and be a benefit to football in the county.

it is a pity that the county board couldn't recognise that as well and as others have said, look at a plan of bettering the schools football with their input.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 04, 2022, 10:00:30 AM
it is a fair point Oggie and the lack of any direction towards it is baffling, especially for a part of school life which is essentially free and on the curriculum anyway.  Treating it as another PE session is better than nothing but its a missed opportunity. 

Taking it at a very basic level (i'm happy for someone more knowledgeable on school terms to correct me on the exact figures) - the school year is say roughly 9 months, approx 36 to 40 weeks.  Say there is 1 GAA PE session per week for the full school year (36-40) plus 1 after schools training session for half the school year (18-20).   
So in schools that are heavily promoting GAA, plus running their own GAA internal year group competitions, it is possible they are doing between 54 - 60 additional GAA sessions per school year than the non-promotional schools.  If kids go on to A-Levels, they potentially will have done 378 - 420 extra skill sessions of proper engaged GAA training in their school lifetime than the competing school down the road.   

It is the same in primary schools that have a strong GAA mentor and teacher in the school.  While not doing trainings after school, they still will do at least 1 GAA session per week which is 30-40 per annum more practice sessions than the school down the road.   That is not even getting into what individual clubs are doing.

Skills, co-ordination, movement, speed of thought, problem solving are all increased week on week, while down the road wee Sean & Mary are sitting on their Playstations, hoping their genes and area population statistics alone will bring them success and make them footballers.

Yes money makes things happen a lot quicker, but we need a change in attitude and the realisation that our schools are critical in moving the county forward alongside the work done within our clubs.   Derry and Tyrone realised a long time the schools working alongside clubs brings massive rewards for both the schools and the clubs 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 04, 2022, 11:06:46 AM
On a change of focus, we are now a month out from the start of the leagues, do we have any idea of fixtures as yet?

Also I assume clubs will be playing without their county men?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2022, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 04, 2022, 10:00:30 AM
it is a fair point Oggie and the lack of any direction towards it is baffling, especially for a part of school life which is essentially free and on the curriculum anyway.  Treating it as another PE session is better than nothing but its a missed opportunity. 

Taking it at a very basic level (i'm happy for someone more knowledgeable on school terms to correct me on the exact figures) - the school year is say roughly 9 months, approx 36 to 40 weeks.  Say there is 1 GAA PE session per week for the full school year (36-40) plus 1 after schools training session for half the school year (18-20).   
So in schools that are heavily promoting GAA, plus running their own GAA internal year group competitions, it is possible they are doing between 54 - 60 additional GAA sessions per school year than the non-promotional schools.  If kids go on to A-Levels, they potentially will have done 378 - 420 extra skill sessions of proper engaged GAA training in their school lifetime than the competing school down the road.   

It is the same in primary schools that have a strong GAA mentor and teacher in the school.  While not doing trainings after school, they still will do at least 1 GAA session per week which is 30-40 per annum more practice sessions than the school down the road.   That is not even getting into what individual clubs are doing.

Skills, co-ordination, movement, speed of thought, problem solving are all increased week on week, while down the road wee Sean & Mary are sitting on their Playstations, hoping their genes and area population statistics alone will bring them success and make them footballers.

Yes money makes things happen a lot quicker, but we need a change in attitude and the realisation that our schools are critical in moving the county forward alongside the work done within our clubs.   Derry and Tyrone realised a long time the schools working alongside clubs brings massive rewards for both the schools and the clubs

PE hast to follow all sports and not just GAA related, athletics, Gymnastics, soccer/ basketball, cross country, swimming, the list is endless depending on the school.

GAA wasn't even a part of the school PE curriculum when I went to school, you had the same PE things I mentioned above and the school teams had one session a week and a game, all after school btw.

If a school is serious about GAA and unfortunately you are in a dual county where schools up the country promote hurling over football, you need a director (they have them in many schools across the the country) of sport/GAA who's only job is to arrange and provide training and games for the students. He can assist the current managers and provide additional extras that the current teacher can't because of normal working day as a teacher

Spike I'd love to have been at a school that would have provided that type of training and attention to GAA, but PE teaching is different nowadays, they have a GCSE to sit and possible A-Levels after that. My last year we played 5 a sides every PE class best of craic in fairness.

Also the kids need to buy in also along with the parents and teachers, but every so often a school gets that range of kids and a dedicated teacher/s who find the right solution, Holy Trinity have that at the minute, and it would be great for a school like that to win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 04, 2022, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2022, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 04, 2022, 10:00:30 AM
it is a fair point Oggie and the lack of any direction towards it is baffling, especially for a part of school life which is essentially free and on the curriculum anyway.  Treating it as another PE session is better than nothing but its a missed opportunity. 

Taking it at a very basic level (i'm happy for someone more knowledgeable on school terms to correct me on the exact figures) - the school year is say roughly 9 months, approx 36 to 40 weeks.  Say there is 1 GAA PE session per week for the full school year (36-40) plus 1 after schools training session for half the school year (18-20).   
So in schools that are heavily promoting GAA, plus running their own GAA internal year group competitions, it is possible they are doing between 54 - 60 additional GAA sessions per school year than the non-promotional schools.  If kids go on to A-Levels, they potentially will have done 378 - 420 extra skill sessions of proper engaged GAA training in their school lifetime than the competing school down the road.   

It is the same in primary schools that have a strong GAA mentor and teacher in the school.  While not doing trainings after school, they still will do at least 1 GAA session per week which is 30-40 per annum more practice sessions than the school down the road.   That is not even getting into what individual clubs are doing.

Skills, co-ordination, movement, speed of thought, problem solving are all increased week on week, while down the road wee Sean & Mary are sitting on their Playstations, hoping their genes and area population statistics alone will bring them success and make them footballers.

Yes money makes things happen a lot quicker, but we need a change in attitude and the realisation that our schools are critical in moving the county forward alongside the work done within our clubs.   Derry and Tyrone realised a long time the schools working alongside clubs brings massive rewards for both the schools and the clubs

PE hast to follow all sports and not just GAA related, athletics, Gymnastics, soccer/ basketball, cross country, swimming, the list is endless depending on the school.

GAA wasn't even a part of the school PE curriculum when I went to school, you had the same PE things I mentioned above and the school teams had one session a week and a game, all after school btw.

If a school is serious about GAA and unfortunately you are in a dual county where schools up the country promote hurling over football, you need a director (they have them in many schools across the the country) of sport/GAA who's only job is to arrange and provide training and games for the students. He can assist the current managers and provide additional extras that the current teacher can't because of normal working day as a teacher

Spike I'd love to have been at a school that would have provided that type of training and attention to GAA, but PE teaching is different nowadays, they have a GCSE to sit and possible A-Levels after that. My last year we played 5 a sides every PE class best of craic in fairness.

Also the kids need to buy in also along with the parents and teachers, but every so often a school gets that range of kids and a dedicated teacher/s who find the right solution, Holy Trinity have that at the minute, and it would be great for a school like that to win

MR2 or anyone care to expand on PC's role within the school mentioned above?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clubman21 on February 04, 2022, 03:28:12 PM
Canavan is a PE teacher/ director of Sport
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dash83 on February 04, 2022, 06:29:34 PM
Has anyone else had problems buying tickets for the Limerick game tomorrow from gaa.ie? I cant seem to complete the Questions part to complete the order
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 04, 2022, 06:31:30 PM
Quote from: Dash83 on February 04, 2022, 06:29:34 PM
Has anyone else had problems buying tickets for the Limerick game tomorrow from gaa.ie? I cant seem to complete the Questions part to complete the order

There's a tick box at the bottom of the question page
Then hit the x at the top right hand corner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dash83 on February 04, 2022, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 04, 2022, 06:31:30 PM
Quote from: Dash83 on February 04, 2022, 06:29:34 PM
Has anyone else had problems buying tickets for the Limerick game tomorrow from gaa.ie? I cant seem to complete the Questions part to complete the order

There's a tick box at the bottom of the question page
Then hit the x at the top right hand corner

Cheers for the quick reply. Tried again and the question part was gone. All sorted  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 04, 2022, 11:26:14 PM
Antrim vs Leitrim , any predictions?
Paddy Mcaleer makes his first start, mark jordan makes the bench for the first time this season, good to see him getting back to fitness, Conor Stewart out of action for a couple of months with a stress fracture in the ankle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2022, 11:29:57 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 04, 2022, 11:26:14 PM
Antrim vs Leitrim , any predictions?
Paddy Mcaleer makes his first start, mark jordan makes the bench for the first time this season, good to see him getting back to fitness, Conor Stewart out of action for a couple of months with a stress fracture in the ankle

I thought it was Limerick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 04, 2022, 11:35:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2022, 11:29:57 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 04, 2022, 11:26:14 PM
Antrim vs Leitrim , any predictions?
Paddy Mcaleer makes his first start, mark jordan makes the bench for the first time this season, good to see him getting back to fitness, Conor Stewart out of action for a couple of months with a stress fracture in the ankle

I thought it was Limerick

My bad MR 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 05, 2022, 09:06:12 AM
I'd have Paddy at 7 and Dermot at 12, and I think both players would benefit from that. These are the games we need to be winning. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 05, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 04, 2022, 10:07:47 PM
How sustainable is the HTC model? Is it another Bessbrook? In that they identified a decent couple of year groups and threw the kitchen sink at them before returning to where they were at the beginning?
That's not to demean the achievements of either but this happens every so often. Marty Clarke's Kilkeel was another one.
Good question. Lurgan seem to have disappeared too. It can happen that a great bunch come along and with a big effort anything is possible. Dungannon and Enniskillen come along every now and again as well.  Just would love to see an Antrim school catch that wave.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2022, 10:38:49 AM
Limerick will certainly have their gander up after last weeks results for them beating Longford handy enough and knocking in 4 goals.

Both teams with a confidence boosting open win , draw written all over it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2022, 10:45:01 AM
Everyone in the league prediction thread that I have seen predicts Antrim. I did too but from optimism. This is a tough game we will do well to win. I am glad it's at home (terrible day for it). Tbh it's a very good test of where we are at and won't be easy but I think exactly what we need.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 05, 2022, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 04, 2022, 10:07:47 PM
How sustainable is the HTC model? Is it another Bessbrook? In that they identified a decent couple of year groups and threw the kitchen sink at them before returning to where they were at the beginning?
That's not to demean the achievements of either but this happens every so often. Marty Clarke's Kilkeel was another one.
A fair point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
Crap. Not looking good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 05, 2022, 05:35:00 PM
Nothing wrong with a reality check
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2022, 08:40:38 AM
Only seeing result now, had a heavy lunch and drinks yesterday  :o

Were they that good or were we poor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 06, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
thought they played well but 2 early goals were killers on a bitter day when scoring was hard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2022, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 06, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
thought they played well but 2 early goals were killers on a bitter day when scoring was hard

That's it? Did we press them? Put them under pressure? Who played well for us?

I'll wait on CB's view or Bannsides take in the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 06, 2022, 08:20:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 06, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
thought they played well but 2 early goals were killers on a bitter day when scoring was hard

Could I respectively refer you to a comprehensive report supplied by the Saffron Gael....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 5times5times on February 06, 2022, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 05, 2022, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 04, 2022, 10:07:47 PM
How sustainable is the HTC model? Is it another Bessbrook? In that they identified a decent couple of year groups and threw the kitchen sink at them before returning to where they were at the beginning?
That's not to demean the achievements of either but this happens every so often. Marty Clarke's Kilkeel was another one.
A fair point

Would Clarke's school not differ, as they've always been in Ulster Colleges comps? I think they're way down the pecking order now, but AFAIK all players were from local area.. Not like St Paul's who'd pay for taxis for some lads to leave their schools and come play for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 07, 2022, 08:45:38 AM
Being a bit of a princess here MR2, what do you want a PA to attend for you? If you were that interested you wouldn't have been on the drink

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2022, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 06, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
thought they played well but 2 early goals were killers on a bitter day when scoring was hard

That's it? Did we press them? Put them under pressure? Who played well for us?

I'll wait on CB's view or Bannsides take in the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2022, 09:08:07 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 07, 2022, 08:45:38 AM
Being a bit of a princess here MR2, what do you want a PA to attend for you? If you were that interested you wouldn't have been on the drink

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2022, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 06, 2022, 02:58:59 PM
thought they played well but 2 early goals were killers on a bitter day when scoring was hard

That's it? Did we press them? Put them under pressure? Who played well for us?

I'll wait on CB's view or Bannsides take in the game

Belated birthday celebrations otherwise I'd have taken in the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 07, 2022, 02:39:43 PM
Disappointing to drop points at home, a reminder that there are no easy games in this league. We must beat Wicklow now in two weeks, take a bit of pressure off ourselves. It's not vital we get promoted, but it's essential we stay clear of the drop zone.

We knew Limerick would be a huge physical threat, and Lenny was well aware of this two years ago when he made the right call taking them to a faster pitch with wide open spaces.

In any event it was an eighteen point turnaround since that day, not a nice stat, so to put that to rights we really do need to remind ourselves of the hammering Wicklow gave us in that next game and claim 2 important points in a fortnight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on February 07, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
How is there no fixtures out yet a month away from the start of the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2022, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on February 07, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
How is there no fixtures out yet a month away from the start of the league?

Back to these posts again  ;D

They'll be out, think there was meeting last week to try and organise this. So I'm sure the club secs will have a possible fixture list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 07, 2022, 06:37:30 PM
If Casement ever gets built it could be the IFA's headquarters for joint Euro 2028 bid with England, Scotland and Wales.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2022, 03:36:18 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on February 07, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
How is there no fixtures out yet a month away from the start of the league?
Hearing those in charge are struggling to come to agreement .
With relegation back on the table be difficult for some county panellists to fully commit.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2022, 04:14:25 PM
Nothing worse than being stuck in no man's land. Not getting meaningful game time for the county and missing club games too. No difference to other counties in that regard, but being a dual county our fixture list is particularly congested. No easy answers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2022, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2022, 04:14:25 PM
Nothing worse than being stuck in no man's land. Not getting meaningful game time for the county and missing club games too. No difference to other counties in that regard, but being a dual county our fixture list is particularly congested. No easy answers!
No answer with county players in hurling denied activity in football league's...
Dunloy, Rossa  and the Johnnies in particular.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 08, 2022, 04:37:36 PM
Now MR2 will slap your wrists Country B, he does not like 'these posts' coming up again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2022, 07:23:35 PM
But it's the same every year and people in a better position than us are trying to put a square peg in a round hole, I don't have a notion on how they do it but to some it seems like a simple enough task, crazy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 08, 2022, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2022, 08:40:38 AM
Only seeing result now, had a heavy lunch and drinks yesterday  :o

Were they that good or were we poor?

Oisin Kerr had a nightmare with his kick outs. 1-2 coming off poor kicks. Oisin is usually excellent, his kicking the week before against Fermanagh was top class but on Saturday he seemed to be on a different wave length than his team mates
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 09, 2022, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2022, 07:23:35 PM
But it's the same every year and people in a better position than us are trying to put a square peg in a round hole, I don't have a notion on how they do it but to some it seems like a simple enough task, crazy

Well fixtures were made last year so would it be a difficult task turning such around and reversing venue.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: redhandefender on February 09, 2022, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2022, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on February 07, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
How is there no fixtures out yet a month away from the start of the league?

Back to these posts again  ;D

They'll be out, think there was meeting last week to try and organise this. So I'm sure the club secs will have a possible fixture list

Well that kind of disorganised attitude has antrim football where it is.

A meeting to try and organise the fixture less would ideally take place before you announce the start date. It is a difficult task but even taking it from the start of January that is month to do it.

Apologies for asking an actual question about football and not discussing my birthday night out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 09, 2022, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2022, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2022, 07:23:35 PM
But it's the same every year and people in a better position than us are trying to put a square peg in a round hole, I don't have a notion on how they do it but to some it seems like a simple enough task, crazy

Well fixtures were made last year so would it be a difficult task turning such around and reversing venue.....?

it beggars belief that we have this issue every year with fixtures.  Does no one learn from the previous year, and the year before that and so on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 09, 2022, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 09, 2022, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 09, 2022, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2022, 07:23:35 PM
But it's the same every year and people in a better position than us are trying to put a square peg in a round hole, I don't have a notion on how they do it but to some it seems like a simple enough task, crazy

Well fixtures were made last year so would it be a difficult task turning such around and reversing venue.....?

it beggars belief that we have this issue every year with fixtures.  Does no one learn from the previous year, and the year before that and so on?

Yeah its so straight forward.... nothing ever changes ... no new teams to deal with, over lapping fixtures, there is those pesky provinicial and national competitions in football and hurling to deal with, get the pencil and paper approach going again.  Piece of p*** really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on February 09, 2022, 03:46:02 PM
Throw in the Tailteann cup for good measure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2022, 07:00:33 PM
I was present at an emergency meeting of the CCC to
discuss fixture congestion a couple of years ago when club delegates were invited to air feedback and attempt to come up with proposals to alleviate this eternal headache, I can only say my eyes were truly opened to the myriad of complexities involved. Trust me this is not an easy or straightforward fix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 09, 2022, 07:48:44 PM
Agreed BS Impossible job, fair play to Raymond in particular at the Ccc for carrying out this role.
I previously posted about go games in SW, they are  planned to start this Sunday at Allen Park 3G, we'll done  to organisers of this great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 09, 2022, 11:08:48 PM
Horrible job being on ccc, lads must have skin like rhinos. With my kids playing I'm delighted to hear that they will get over twice the number of games they were getting as last 3-4 years, add in the divisional board cups and has the making for a great and busy season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 10, 2022, 08:26:22 PM
Great to see Gaelfast up at Toome today . Must give them a ring and see when they are coming Back to Belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on February 10, 2022, 11:37:39 PM
Haven't the stones for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2022, 08:00:15 AM
Serious chip on the shoulder about this gaelfast going on here. Must be some baggage there.

How dare they go up to the country ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2022, 09:01:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2022, 08:00:15 AM
Serious chip on the shoulder about this gaelfast going on here. Must be some baggage there.

How dare they go up to the country ;D

Maybe someone applied for role and didn't get it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2022, 09:49:21 AM
When are people on here going to get the concept that the programme has been extended beyond the boundaries of Belfast.

For right or wrong but those are the facts, so if they are in Toome or Cushendun they are merely carrying out their roles.

If you want a go at someone regarding the remit of Gaelfast, look past the staff and start asking questions above that level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 11, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
my fault for believign that Gfast was for belfast and surrounding areas . Do we really need coaches in Toome the strongest area for football in Antrim? or hurling coaches in the glens? this is a cop out. I , and i'm entitled to my opinion, is they should be in North / South / East Belfast flat out - greater need but harder work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 11, 2022, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 11, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
my fault for believign that Gfast was for belfast and surrounding areas . Do we really need coaches in Toome the strongest area for football in Antrim? or hurling coaches in the glens? this is a cop out. I , and i'm entitled to my opinion, is they should be in North / South / East Belfast flat out - greater need but harder work

Gaelfast is the coaching of the games department of Antrim GAA.
Our aim is to reinvigorate Gaelic Games ni Belfast and Antrim....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2022, 10:53:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 11, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
my fault for believign that Gfast was for belfast and surrounding areas . Do we really need coaches in Toome the strongest area for football in Antrim? or hurling coaches in the glens? this is a cop out. I , and i'm entitled to my opinion, is they should be in North / South / East Belfast flat out - greater need but harder work

No need for the apology  ;)

Your opinion is valid but your anger/ concern is misdirected at those delivering. You need to start asking questions of those who are above this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2022, 12:23:58 PM
It kind of lost significance when you chastised them for not working when they legally weren't allowed to so it looked like you had some kind of ulterior motive for chastising them  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 11, 2022, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2022, 09:49:21 AM
When are people on here going to get the concept that the programme has been extended beyond the boundaries of Belfast.

For right or wrong but those are the facts, so if they are in Toome or Cushendun they are merely carrying out their roles.

If you want a go at someone regarding the remit of Gaelfast, look past the staff and start asking questions above that level.

Haven't been to the Ards yet, but we do accept the invites to attend when others pull out.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 11, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 11, 2022, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 11, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
my fault for believign that Gfast was for belfast and surrounding areas . Do we really need coaches in Toome the strongest area for football in Antrim? or hurling coaches in the glens? this is a cop out. I , and i'm entitled to my opinion, is they should be in North / South / East Belfast flat out - greater need but harder work

Gaelfast is the coaching of the games department of Antrim GAA.
Our aim is to reinvigorate Gaelic Games ni Belfast and Antrim....

Are you sure about that?

I think Gaelfast required the approval of Down County board for it to fly with Croke Park in the initial planning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on February 11, 2022, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 11, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 11, 2022, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 11, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
my fault for believign that Gfast was for belfast and surrounding areas . Do we really need coaches in Toome the strongest area for football in Antrim? or hurling coaches in the glens? this is a cop out. I , and i'm entitled to my opinion, is they should be in North / South / East Belfast flat out - greater need but harder work

Gaelfast is the coaching of the games department of Antrim GAA.
Our aim is to reinvigorate Gaelic Games ni Belfast and Antrim....

Are you sure about that?

I think Gaelfast required the approval of Down County board for it to fly with Croke Park in the initial planning.

It was also noted that the Dublin program catered for the whole of the county including country clubs.

Also, my relatives in Dublin told me that the main issue in Dublin was the north siders, the south side clubs had money and resources, but the Dublin county when for a holistic program, nt just a northsider one.

So Antrim is smart running a full county program
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 11, 2022, 11:53:32 PM
Jaysus had a sabbatical cos the stuff on here was doing my head in. I'm away again.
Come on Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 12, 2022, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on February 03, 2022, 10:09:31 PM
This thread is turning into hard work for a Mod.

Posters seem to be aware of each other's identity and make seemingly crass comments toward each other.  Sometimes it looks like banter, but sometimes it hits a harder blow.

So I'll ask ALL posters to cop on a small bit.  Leave the personal stuff off the board.

Otherwise bans will be forthcoming.

Mod5


Best and most sensible post on here for a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 12, 2022, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 12, 2022, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on February 03, 2022, 10:09:31 PM
This thread is turning into hard work for a Mod.

Posters seem to be aware of each other's identity and make seemingly crass comments toward each other.  Sometimes it looks like banter, but sometimes it hits a harder blow.

So I'll ask ALL posters to cop on a small bit.  Leave the personal stuff off the board.

Otherwise bans will be forthcoming.

Mod5


Best and most sensible post on here for a long time.

Well said Samuel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 12, 2022, 11:25:54 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 12, 2022, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 12, 2022, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on February 03, 2022, 10:09:31 PM
This thread is turning into hard work for a Mod.

Posters seem to be aware of each other's identity and make seemingly crass comments toward each other.  Sometimes it looks like banter, but sometimes it hits a harder blow.

So I'll ask ALL posters to cop on a small bit.  Leave the personal stuff off the board.

Otherwise bans will be forthcoming.

Mod5


Best and most sensible post on here for a long time.

Well said Samuel

Unless it's L Jackson, I don't wanna know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 13, 2022, 05:35:36 PM
Congratulations St Mary's deserved recipients of the Mac crory cup today.
And a big shout out to the Cargin boys, Conhuir, Benen, and Tom and to our Senior team manager Ronan Devlin.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 13, 2022, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 13, 2022, 05:35:36 PM
Congratulations St Mary's deserved recipients of the Mac crory cup today.
And a big shout out to the Cargin boys, Conhuir, Benen, and Tom and to our Senior team manager Ronan Devlin.
Well done. Fine footballers with great futures. Hope they can give the Hogan a great shot.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 14, 2022, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.
EOC yes good to see. Over the last number of years with St Mary's. St Pats & St Ronans there have been a good 15 - 20 guys who have had the benefit of football at this level. On KB  I'm not sure you could replicate what they do by just taking a team. The setup they have seems to nurture and develop guys over a 6-7 year period. They don't win much down the school but they shape and mould to get themselves in good shape for Macrory. If we could get him or someone like him to head up underage development with the output being competitive U17 & 20 teams. Someone like him could get/attract good quality coaches and put a plan/pathway in place to develop good rounded players. This is sadly lacking and is a big piece of the jigsaw. Maybe this is part of the Director of footballs remit. I wonder was KB approached for DOF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 14, 2022, 06:31:27 AM
Quote from: Flanker on February 14, 2022, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.
EOC yes good to see. Over the last number of years with St Mary's. St Pats & St Ronans there have been a good 15 - 20 guys who have had the benefit of football at this level. On KB  I'm not sure you could replicate what they do by just taking a team. The setup they have seems to nurture and develop guys over a 6-7 year period. They don't win much down the school but they shape and mould to get themselves in good shape for Macrory. If we could get him or someone like him to head up underage development with the output being competitive U17 & 20 teams. Someone like him could get/attract good quality coaches and put a plan/pathway in place to develop good rounded players. This is sadly lacking and is a big piece of the jigsaw. Maybe this is part of the Director of footballs remit. I wonder was KB approached for DOF.

I doubt anyone was approached and few would have the backbone to push the issue at CC imo, but a great shout Flanker, KB great lad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2022, 07:45:16 AM
I'm certain that our games and development officer did make contact with Kevin regarding a prominent role. At the time Kevin had committments to St Mary's and an involvement alongside Paddy Bradley at An Lub possibly club underage committments too, so he could not take on anything else. A great coach and great fella too.

Great achievement by John McKeever to get Holy Trinity to their first final too. Another with multiple interests trying to find the balance but always placing club juvenile development activity as a large priority. That's where it starts.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 14, 2022, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2022, 07:45:16 AM
I'm certain that our games and development officer did make contact with Kevin regarding a prominent role. At the time Kevin had committments to St Mary's and an involvement alongside Paddy Bradley at An Lub possibly club underage committments too, so he could not take on anything else. A great coach and great fella too.

Great achievement by John McKeever to get Holy Trinity to their first final too. Another with multiple interests trying to find the balance but always placing club juvenile development activity as a large priority. That's where it starts.

It was very evident yesterday that Peter is the manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2022, 04:47:12 PM
Double effort...Ronan and Kevin - John & Peter. Probably a couple of other important assistants in both backroom teams too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 14, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
I just watched the MacRory final again.  The Cargin lads all made big contributions.  You love to see it.  And the Athletic Grounds is a great atmosphere.  My God the Casement Park episode has been a shameful white elephant. Rip up the plans and start again with an Athletic Grounds type stadium that we can all enjoy and can get built!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 15, 2022, 08:21:30 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 14, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
I just watched the MacRory final again.  The Cargin lads all made big contributions.  You love to see it.  And the Athletic Grounds is a great atmosphere.  My God the Casement Park episode has been a shameful white elephant. Rip up the plans and start again with an Athletic Grounds type stadium that we can all enjoy and can get built!

I was at the Armagh v Tyrone game last week, was saying to herself that it was great to see a ground full to capacity. The noise and atmosphere was brilliant. I said that if Antrim had that size of stadium it would be filled maybe twice a year, for outside county games. I get the Ulster Council are looking at a showpiece stadium, something to show off to the neighbours, and to put on big revenue concerts, but is it really needed at 34k capacity?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 15, 2022, 11:25:16 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 14, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
I just watched the MacRory final again.  The Cargin lads all made big contributions.  You love to see it.  And the Athletic Grounds is a great atmosphere.  My God the Casement Park episode has been a shameful white elephant. Rip up the plans and start again with an Athletic Grounds type stadium that we can all enjoy and can get built!
I was there on Sunday and was thinking that myself about the ground, an Athletic grounds is all Antrim would need and more at a fraction of the Cost and with no planning issues. The 35k stadium was a nice idea but needs canned. The issue has now been turned into a political football by all sides which will also hinder it further.

Our lads all did great by the way, great experience for them. Onto the Hogan Cup now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 15, 2022, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 15, 2022, 11:25:16 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 14, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
I just watched the MacRory final again.  The Cargin lads all made big contributions.  You love to see it.  And the Athletic Grounds is a great atmosphere.  My God the Casement Park episode has been a shameful white elephant. Rip up the plans and start again with an Athletic Grounds type stadium that we can all enjoy and can get built!
I was there on Sunday and was thinking that myself about the ground, an Athletic grounds is all Antrim would need and more at a fraction of the Cost and with no planning issues. The 35k stadium was a nice idea but needs canned. The issue has now been turned into a political football by all sides which will also hinder it further.

Our lads all did great by the way, great experience for them. Onto the Hogan Cup now.

When is the Hogan game EOC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 15, 2022, 05:01:59 PM
St Mary's will play St Brendan's Killarney on the week-end 26th/27th Feb....in the Hogan Cup semi.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 15, 2022, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2022, 10:25:50 PM
I had previously asked the question about the sustainability of the HTC model. At the time I knew little about them and assumed that it was through hard work that they improved their players and got them to the standard. Undoubtedly it still takes hard work to get to a MacRory final but the more info that comes out about them the less impressive it becomes IMO. It's essentially a gather-up of footballers from east Tyrone & south Derry.
A "gather-up"?  There's always a bit of chopping and changing at A level and I hear they had a part time student. But are you saying the vast majority of their team aren't HTC through and through?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 16, 2022, 06:19:55 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 15, 2022, 08:21:30 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 14, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
I just watched the MacRory final again.  The Cargin lads all made big contributions.  You love to see it.  And the Athletic Grounds is a great atmosphere.  My God the Casement Park episode has been a shameful white elephant. Rip up the plans and start again with an Athletic Grounds type stadium that we can all enjoy and can get built!

I was at the Armagh v Tyrone game last week, was saying to herself that it was great to see a ground full to capacity. The noise and atmosphere was brilliant. I said that if Antrim had that size of stadium it would be filled maybe twice a year, for outside county games. I get the Ulster Council are looking at a showpiece stadium, something to show off to the neighbours, and to put on big revenue concerts, but is it really needed at 34k capacity?





Quote from: EOC1923 on February 15, 2022, 11:25:16 AM




Quote from: Sportacus on February 14, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
I just watched the MacRory final again.  The Cargin lads all made big contributions.  You love to see it.  And the Athletic Grounds is a great atmosphere.  My God the Casement Park episode has been a shameful white elephant. Rip up the plans and start again with an Athletic Grounds type stadium that we can all enjoy and can get built!
I was there on Sunday and was thinking that myself about the ground, an Athletic grounds is all Antrim would need and more at a fraction of the Cost and with no planning issues. The 35k stadium was a nice idea but needs canned. The issue has now been turned into a political football by all sides which will also hinder it further.

Our lads all did great by the way, great experience for them. Onto the Hogan Cup now.

Gents you talk as if it was still Antrims stadium and they carry influence and have a say, that ship sailed a long time ago . They'll have to get in line and book the calendar with the management company that will no doubt run the show!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 16, 2022, 08:30:40 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2022, 11:28:56 PM
There are 12 lads from the Coalisland area on their panel. I'm no expert on this but I wouldn't have thought that Cookstown was the natural place for Coalisland people to attend school. Perhaps I'm wrong but it seems like they've drafted a pile of boys in. Which is fair enough but that would need to be considered when we are talking about an Antrim school emulating their success.
So only short bus journey, 15/20 minutes from Coalisland to Cookstown, wouldn't suggest such is 'a pile drafted in'....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2022, 08:49:44 AM
Did the school with the 12 who moved from it offer a levels?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: God14 on February 16, 2022, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2022, 08:49:44 AM
Did the school with the 12 who moved from it offer a levels?

St Josephs in Coalisland dont offer A levels, no. Most would traditionally have headed onto Dungannon tech, or a grammer school such as the Academy

HTC schools football team is traditionally backboned by Cookstown, Kildress, Ardboe & the Rock clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: God14 on February 16, 2022, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2022, 08:49:44 AM
Did the school with the 12 who moved from it offer a levels?

St Josephs in Coalisland dont offer A levels, no. Most would traditionally have headed onto Dungannon tech, or a grammer school such as the Academy

HTC schools football team is traditionally backboned by Cookstown, Kildress, Ardboe & the Rock clubs.
St Joes Coalisland don't offer A-Levels, HTC has always got the majority of these studenys along with the Academy Dungannon. HTC have been competing well in Macrory since 2018 so they have been progressively getting better. No players from South Derry kicked a ball for them in the final just to add.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 16, 2022, 09:28:40 AM
If the standard of football was an incentive for young lads to join HTC then fair play to them.
As long as they are still getting a high quality education (which is the main thing) then I don't see this as anything but a positive for the school.
Another good reason to support the promotion of GAA within schools in Antrim.

On a side note, the buzz within the wider Magherafelt community because their school team had reached the final was incredible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 16, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

Maybe they are Grade A because they went to Magherafelt and Lurgan?  Apart from the grammar schools we also have to encourage our high schools and vocational schools. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 16, 2022, 10:31:26 AM
HTC won the All Ireland B in 2018.  They've been on an upward curve and that attracts some extra players as the MacRory incentive bites.  Fair play to them.  A lesson that anything is possible with hard work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:33:59 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2022, 10:31:26 AM
HTC won the All Ireland B in 2018.  They've been on an upward curve and that attracts some extra players as the MacRory incentive bites.  Fair play to them.  A lesson that anything is possible with hard work.
Agreed, insane pool of coaches within the school taking teams throughout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on February 16, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 16, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

Maybe they are Grade A because they went to Magherafelt and Lurgan?  Apart from the grammar schools we also have to encourage our high schools and vocational schools.



There is a good point, a good number of our lads go to St Conor's, and although a Derry school their success is as important if not more to us as Saint Louis. 

Had a look into it last week and there are 42 teams in the MacRory(14),MacLarnon(16) and Markey(12) competitions.

We have 3 MacLarnon (Rathmore, St Marys CBS and St Louis) and 1 in the Markey (St Malachys Belfast).

Donegal has 9 teams across the 3 and it'd be interesting to look at their county squad and see which of these schools they came through.

Then you have Derry who have 5 schools competing but when you have Maghera and Magherafelt as two of them you are in a strong position.

As has been said before it's up to us in some of our clubs to up our game before we blame either school or county development squads.









Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2022, 11:55:47 AM
Some other counties have strong vocational schools. Donegal used to have and I think Tyrone maybe have had some success at those levels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2022, 01:53:22 PM
i mind in the 90s watching some good games in croke park before the likes of national league finals and I'd say at least half of one of them donegal teams played senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 16, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

It doesn't  lose players to those schools. They go to those schools and play for the county teams if the managers call them up. St. Ronan's 2/3 mile away from Aghagallon so it's literally the closest school. We would have a few who go to Abbey and St. Coleman's in Newry as well. Bannside is correct though, maybe those schools around the Derry border need to start recruiting for footballers. As I said before, I doubt it would happen as it's just not very important in those schools.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 16, 2022, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 16, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 16, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

Maybe they are Grade A because they went to Magherafelt and Lurgan?  Apart from the grammar schools we also have to encourage our high schools and vocational schools.



There is a good point, a good number of our lads go to St Conor's, and although a Derry school their success is as important if not more to us as Saint Louis. 

Had a look into it last week and there are 42 teams in the MacRory(14),MacLarnon(16) and Markey(12) competitions.

We have 3 MacLarnon (Rathmore, St Marys CBS and St Louis) and 1 in the Markey (St Malachys Belfast).

Donegal has 9 teams across the 3 and it'd be interesting to look at their county squad and see which of these schools they came through.

Then you have Derry who have 5 schools competing but when you have Maghera and Magherafelt as two of them you are in a strong position.

As has been said before it's up to us in some of our clubs to up our game before we blame either school or county development squads.

St Louis perhaps have a hurling / football / soccer conundrum, CBS a soccer one.  What is it stops Rathmore and St Malachys launching as the go to development school in Belfast for education and GAA?    St Malachys has a grand tradition in the McRory Cup so what happened that it frittered away?  Can it be reignited?  Is CBS lost to soccer?  Rather  than targeting every school, Even the targeting of one GAA orientated school in Belfast and St Louis would bring dividends surely? 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 16, 2022, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 16, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 16, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

Maybe they are Grade A because they went to Magherafelt and Lurgan?  Apart from the grammar schools we also have to encourage our high schools and vocational schools.



There is a good point, a good number of our lads go to St Conor's, and although a Derry school their success is as important if not more to us as Saint Louis. 

Had a look into it last week and there are 42 teams in the MacRory(14),MacLarnon(16) and Markey(12) competitions.

We have 3 MacLarnon (Rathmore, St Marys CBS and St Louis) and 1 in the Markey (St Malachys Belfast).

Donegal has 9 teams across the 3 and it'd be interesting to look at their county squad and see which of these schools they came through.

Then you have Derry who have 5 schools competing but when you have Maghera and Magherafelt as two of them you are in a strong position.

As has been said before it's up to us in some of our clubs to up our game before we blame either school or county development squads.

Agree clubs can/must up the game  Schools and development squads play a big part as well. Most rural clubs have peaks and troughs in numbers. Mixing and playing with a higher and more competitive standard of player plus what should be a higher standard of coaching pulls everyone up.
Average players develop into good players... Good players develop into Very Good...

As for Donegal.... Historically they did well at County Vocational level. There school numbers would be relatively small but they are competitive at lower levels. They have been very strong for many years with regards to development squads and were way ahead of most on this.

Take a look at Letterkenny IT Sigerson team who beat a star studded UCD team..... 15 starters all from Donegal got beat by a late goal by finalists Nuig.

Different model that works for them

Unfortunately apart from the odd exception neither schools or development squad model works in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 16, 2022, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 16, 2022, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 16, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 16, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

Maybe they are Grade A because they went to Magherafelt and Lurgan?  Apart from the grammar schools we also have to encourage our high schools and vocational schools.



There is a good point, a good number of our lads go to St Conor's, and although a Derry school their success is as important if not more to us as Saint Louis. 

Had a look into it last week and there are 42 teams in the MacRory(14),MacLarnon(16) and Markey(12) competitions.

We have 3 MacLarnon (Rathmore, St Marys CBS and St Louis) and 1 in the Markey (St Malachys Belfast).

Donegal has 9 teams across the 3 and it'd be interesting to look at their county squad and see which of these schools they came through.

Then you have Derry who have 5 schools competing but when you have Maghera and Magherafelt as two of them you are in a strong position.

As has been said before it's up to us in some of our clubs to up our game before we blame either school or county development squads.

St Louis perhaps have a hurling / football / soccer conundrum, CBS a soccer one.  What is it stops Rathmore and St Malachys launching as the go to development school in Belfast for education and GAA?    St Malachys has a grand tradition in the McRory Cup so what happened that it frittered away?  Can it be reignited?  Is CBS lost to soccer?  Rather  than targeting every school, Even the targeting of one GAA orientated school in Belfast and St Louis would bring dividends surely?
That would be an excellent start and something DOF and Games Development should have high up their list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on February 16, 2022, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: Flanker on February 16, 2022, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 16, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 16, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
Surprise Surprise, Tyrone school casts net a bit wider to attract grade A footballers. Are we saying this ambition us wrong? Heaven forbid an Antrim school would ever start thinking like this!
Perhaps just annoyed that Antrim loses it's grade A footballers to schools like Magherafelt and St Ronan's Lurgan.

Maybe they are Grade A because they went to Magherafelt and Lurgan?  Apart from the grammar schools we also have to encourage our high schools and vocational schools.



There is a good point, a good number of our lads go to St Conor's, and although a Derry school their success is as important if not more to us as Saint Louis. 

Had a look into it last week and there are 42 teams in the MacRory(14),MacLarnon(16) and Markey(12) competitions.

We have 3 MacLarnon (Rathmore, St Marys CBS and St Louis) and 1 in the Markey (St Malachys Belfast).

Donegal has 9 teams across the 3 and it'd be interesting to look at their county squad and see which of these schools they came through.

Then you have Derry who have 5 schools competing but when you have Maghera and Magherafelt as two of them you are in a strong position.

As has been said before it's up to us in some of our clubs to up our game before we blame either school or county development squads.

Agree clubs can/must up the game  Schools and development squads play a big part as well. Most rural clubs have peaks and troughs in numbers. Mixing and playing with a higher and more competitive standard of player plus what should be a higher standard of coaching pulls everyone up.
Average players develop into good players... Good players develop into Very Good...

As for Donegal.... Historically they did well at County Vocational level. There school numbers would be relatively small but they are competitive at lower levels. They have been very strong for many years with regards to development squads and were way ahead of most on this.

Take a look at Letterkenny IT Sigerson team who beat a star studded UCD team..... 15 starters all from Donegal got beat by a late goal by finalists Nuig.

Different model that works for them

Unfortunately apart from the odd exception neither schools or development squad model works in Antrim

The develpoment squad system doesn't. Our standard baseline is lower than other counties, so they are picking the cream from a higher talented crop.

Antrim's development system needs to be focused on how to raise all standards.

This is one where I've experienced soccer getting it right. In both England and the US, professional teams run development centres that support a group of clubs. Clubs will encourage (some will enforce) their kids to go to these. The fact that they are getting top class coaching with the better players in a area helps with standards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 16, 2022, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 16, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2022, 01:53:22 PM
i mind in the 90s watching some good games in croke park before the likes of national league finals and I'd say at least half of one of them donegal teams played senior.

The All-Ireland Intercounty VS football final was for a long time the curtain raiser to the NFL Finals in Croke Park, I think it stopped being the case by the early 00's (2002 which was the last time Donegal won the title IIRC).

In Tyrone from around the mid-90's until the late 00's the VS football level was quite strong and well developed, in that time five different schools won Ulster titles (when there was only one competition at provincial level at U14, U16 & U18) while the intercounty team reached six All-Ireland finals winning three of them. Until about 2004 or so, there were only two schools in the county that were in Ulster Colleges competitions namely Omagh CBS & St. Pat's (Boys) Academy Dungannon - then when Holy Cross College Strabane was established it decided to enter the Colleges sector whereas one of the schools it replaced, St. Colman's High School, played in VS competitions. Later on St. Joseph's Donaghmore went from being a girls grammar school to becoming a co-ed and entering their own teams in the Colleges sector and finally a year before the Ulster Colleges and VS GAA councils merged to become Ulster Schools GAA, St. Ciaran's Ballygawley & Holy Trinity Cookstown decided to throw their lot in with the colleges a year before they would have been playing with them otherwise.

Antrim did win one All-Ireland Intercounty VS title back in either 68 or 69, the same year as their only Ulster title win.

I could be wrong on this but I believe we had a Derry man on the team. We knew how to do it then just all down hill since
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 16, 2022, 07:47:49 PM
Indeed we had Flanker, Terence McWilliams played for St Thomas in 1968.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 16, 2022, 08:16:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2022, 07:47:49 PM
Indeed we had Flanker, Terence McWilliams played for St Thomas in 1968.

You have me on the St Thomas bit BS where does that fit in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2022, 12:26:11 AM
Quote from: referee on February 16, 2022, 05:55:56 PM
Antrim only seem to get fellas on board development squad management if their wee Joey or Tommy are involved,this is where other counties seem to succeed, getting the best coaches in place and not just anyone

Fair enough point, think that's why Dev squads are all now headed by a member of Gaelfast , g Mcnulty, s mckenna and Ronan mcartan, 14,15 & 16 respectively. Then coaches filled in around them like sambo, l Higgins, o Doherty, f Fitzsimmons . Takes the doting daddy equation out of it. But kevin is right , maybe the better model in Antrim is to run regional Dev squads and not cherry pick, upping the standards of everyone. Worth considering I'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 08:13:37 AM
You're right Flanker, I remember Terence telling me the story - think a big majority of the squad were St Thomas thats what it was. His mate was Martin O Neill who was of course the main man at St Malachys when they won Mc Rory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 17, 2022, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 17, 2022, 08:13:37 AM
You're right Flanker, I remember Terence telling me the story - think a big majority of the squad were St Thomas thats what it was. His mate was Martin O Neill who was of course the main man at St Malachys when they won Mc Rory.
TBH i had no idea who St Thomas were. Never realised there were so many schools in the West Belfast area. Lots of mergers .... Might explain how the fortunes of clubs in those areas have fallen. A lot of links, identities and allegiance's were probably broken along the way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 12:08:11 PM
Think Big PJ O Hare played for that St Thomas team and quite a few others who went in to be part of Antrim under 21 team who won all Ireland under 21s a few years later.

Great era for Antrim then, excelling at Mc Rory, going well in vocational schools, county under 21, and senior team giving the great Down breakthrough team their fill of it several times in Ulster finals and semi finals.

There's no doubt between 68 and 71 Antrim were a coming force. Our decline since then has been nothing short of spectacular. Only hard work on all fronts will reduce the deficit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
I'm a bit disappointed that some here seem to be casting adverse judgement on the achievement of HTCs development from a Grade B participant to a Grade A contender. Why can't we just accept that they made this an important aspect of their school ethos and worked harder to make this happen. (As a shining light on what could be done in Antrim schools if they had any inclination).

And no I'm not talking about winning McRorys, just get competitive in grades they are completing in first of all and go from there.

Here's a stat for anyone still interested in this discussion. No less than 11 of the team who started in Sunday's final for HTC began their education there as first years and have completed 7 years at the school. That's different to what some posters here are attempting to convey.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 17, 2022, 01:04:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 17, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
I'm a bit disappointed that some here seem to be casting adverse judgement on the achievement of HTCs development from a Grade B participant to a Grade A contender. Why can't we just accept that they made this an important aspect of their school ethos and worked harder to make this happen. (As a shining light on what could be done in Antrim schools if they had any inclination).

And no I'm not talking about winning McRorys, just get competitive in grades they are completing in first of all and go from there.

Here's a stat for anyone still interested in this discussion. No less than 11 of the team who started in Sunday's final for HTC began their education there as first years and have completed 7 years at the school. That's different to what some posters here are attempting to convey.
Any idea if this was part of a Tyrone Strategic objective to help development in that area or was it purely a HTC or individuals within HTC driven initiative.

Either way it is going to make Tyrone as a county stronger in the medium to longer term 100+ guys over the 3 schools competing @ Grade A per annum

We might have 10-15 across 3 schools

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 01:26:20 PM
My guess is that their strong GAA ethos is led from the board of directors and school principal downward, who see consistent success on the GAA front as the kind of school parents want to send their kids to. Especially the ones who's children have good potential to be part of successful squads. Of course in Tyrone where everyone is immersed in GAA culture it is easier to implement. Success breeds success and all that.....

You do know that the more pupils in the school, the more revenue it receives from authorities. So the school wins on two fronts.

Schoolteachers applying for jobs with a prominent GAA CV, or commit to being part of the school GAA ethos may be seen as "desireable" criteria.

Ulster Colleges are full of them. Malachy O Rourke, Jody Gormley, Sean Martin Lockhart, Kevin Brady etc.

Are Antrim schools thinking along the same lines?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 17, 2022, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2022, 02:05:31 PM
Our schools don't have a shortage of experienced GAA staff, they have a shortage of quality players going into them.
Our schools aren't competitive for the same reason our county isn't competitive. Our clubs are not producing good players in the same quantities as the clubs in counties around us.

I know our players significantly improve when they go to St. Ronan's and make the school team. We have good enough players who go to Lismore (the other local secondary school) and they definitely don't kick on like the lads who go to St. Ronan's. There are enough good footballers in Belfast who could be brought on significantly if things changed in those schools. It just takes one school to take the lead in being the main school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Are the schools that (as you say) don't have a shortage of GAA staff doing enough to get them out on the pitches three days a week after school?

The 11 or 12 year old going into a school in Cookstown or Magherafelt isn't that far ahead of many of their peers going into schools in Antrim. I contend it's what happens after that makes the biggest difference.

Eg in Magherafelt or Cookstown they work harder at it. GAA matters more.

As I said previously, many parents will decide to send their child to a school where they know their 7 year player development programme will enhance their child's ability, not deter it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 17, 2022, 04:23:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 17, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Are the schools that (as you say) don't have a shortage of GAA staff doing enough to get them out on the pitches three days a week after school?

The 11 or 12 year old going into a school in Cookstown or Magherafelt isn't that far ahead of many of their peers going into schools in Antrim. I contend it's what happens after that makes the biggest difference.

Eg in Magherafelt or Cookstown they work harder at it. GAA matters more.

As I said previously, many parents will decide to send their child to a school where they know their 7 year player development programme will enhance their child's ability, not deter it.

Well said BS.  Sometimes we have to hold our hands up and admit that we don't work hard enough collectively in Antrim.  Small numbers taking all the burden.  Making the schools work means hard work for slow rewards which doesn't suit the people wanting immediate success.    We are too far behind for immediate success.   

JimStynes made a good point also about the local schools.  We have had plenty of kids of equal talent go to Derry schools and others go to Antrim Schools.  Vast vast majority who attended the Derry schools kicked on further.  Not a coincidence.

One glance through the teamsheets of our two strongest county teams Cargin and Creggan, knowing which of those players attended schools in Derry,  will tell you all you need to know about the power of schools football.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 17, 2022, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2022, 04:20:51 PM
If there was an A tournament on the first day of Year 8, the Antrim schools would take a pasting. There's just no 2 ways about that.

Not if all the good footballers from year 8 went to the same 1 or 2 schools. It wouldn't even enter people's heads in Belfast to send their child to a school that is good at GAA. I've taught in enough schools that feed into Belfast schools to know that it's not even a discussion. Go to Newry, South Derry etc and the football families will be sending them to the football school!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 05:19:00 PM
My position on Antrim schools hasn't changed one iota. They seem either unable or unwilling to improve their standing in this sector. Either way, unless the county steps in and offers some form of mediation/motivation/support structure we will be having this same conversation in 20 years.

If Gaelfast does its job promoting a higher level of interest and participation level in primary schools, and clubs start pulling their weight at meaningful juvenile development, I'm confident a better player entering year 8 will emerge.

It's what happens after that that still greatly worries me!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 17, 2022, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2022, 04:20:51 PM
If there was an A tournament on the first day of Year 8, the Antrim schools would take a pasting. There's just no 2 ways about that.
I think we would all agree on this but none of our schools are  competing in A. What most people! on here believe and are looking for is to be competitive @ the level they are at... B, C or lower. Any have decent coach/coaches in a reasonable environment should be able to improve guys over a 7 year period. Make average players into good players Good into V Good at their level. I see very little evidence of this. As Spike indicated look at Creggan & Cargin (you could add Aghagallon). Compare the improvement in their players from year 8 that have gone to schools with good coaching setups.
The coaches in those schools are competitive and proud guys who would not be happy unless they were maximising the talent that they have at their disposal. You don't have to be an A player to be developed and moulded into a better player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
I honestly think a lot of them benefited greatly from sigerson football. (Of course they had to be good enough in the first place to get on teams mind you but I always thought that was a big help).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 17, 2022, 08:48:08 PM
Still talking about schools lads?? Only thing I'll say is my young fella went to pg1 primary school, cleared everything in sw antrim, which was poor quality 2 blitzes and an indoor thing. Were invited to Maghera feeder schools blitz and got tanked, talking to other parents in derry schools kids playing football 3 teams a week in school with one match. Nowhere near same level here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2022, 10:53:41 PM
Take that example you have just provided RC in Derry schools. If you make the panel in first year, train or play football 3 hours every week - multiply by 40 weeks a year - multiply by 7 years, equates to 840 hours practising skills, ball in hand, learning your craft.

That's a lot of player development that lads in Antrim arnt getting no matter what way you look at it. That's why schools matter a lot if we are ever going to raise the bar properly in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2022, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
I honestly think a lot of them benefited greatly from sigerson football. (Of course they had to be good enough in the first place to get on teams mind you but I always thought that was a big help).

Not winning five minor and under 21's in a row? Before those lads played sigerson we were winning under 12 right through to senior.

No doubt spike will interject with the transfer policy  ;D

It's the teachers and Gaelfast I blame, useless Cnuts ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2022, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2022, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
I honestly think a lot of them benefited greatly from sigerson football. (Of course they had to be good enough in the first place to get on teams mind you but I always thought that was a big help).

Not winning five minor and under 21's in a row? Before those lads played sigerson we were winning under 12 right through to senior.

No doubt spike will interject with the transfer policy  ;D

It's the teachers and Gaelfast I blame, useless Cnuts ::)

Did you see my comment in brackets  ;D

I personally it helped you reach the higher level - at ulster moreso than antrim where you already were going to win anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 18, 2022, 10:29:31 AM
Games tomorrow could be in doubt with this weather, pitches throughout the country in bad shape. Cant see any team yet for the Wicklow game, anyone heard anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2022, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 17, 2022, 04:23:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 17, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Are the schools that (as you say) don't have a shortage of GAA staff doing enough to get them out on the pitches three days a week after school?

The 11 or 12 year old going into a school in Cookstown or Magherafelt isn't that far ahead of many of their peers going into schools in Antrim. I contend it's what happens after that makes the biggest difference.

Eg in Magherafelt or Cookstown they work harder at it. GAA matters more.

As I said previously, many parents will decide to send their child to a school where they know their 7 year player development programme will enhance their child's ability, not deter it.

Well said BS.  Sometimes we have to hold our hands up and admit that we don't work hard enough collectively in Antrim.  Small numbers taking all the burden.  Making the schools work means hard work for slow rewards which doesn't suit the people wanting immediate success.    We are too far behind for immediate success.   

JimStynes made a good point also about the local schools.  We have had plenty of kids of equal talent go to Derry schools and others go to Antrim Schools.  Vast vast majority who attended the Derry schools kicked on further.  Not a coincidence.

One glance through the teamsheets of our two strongest county teams Cargin and Creggan, knowing which of those players attended schools in Derry,  will tell you all you need to know about the power of schools football.   
But Christ, that's fairly selective. Creggan win one championship in about 100 years and we're attributing it to their players playing MacRory with the Derry schools.
Yet no mention of school's football with a St Galls team who dominated Antrim football for 15 years. The best club side the county has ever had. Because the vast majority of their players played B football and not MacRory?

And Cargin with the huge majority of their players having received post primary education won 5 outa six senior titles in recent times.

But a well managed under age coaching programme in place with utilising the experience of past players to the utmost.

In actual fact such well worn path to South Derry Post primary education continues.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 11:24:00 AM
Missed the important bit....'in South Derry'...and one notable exception in Ronan Gribbin who attended my old college...St Malachys.

Thanks you your advice forgetting about the hint of sarcasm....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2022, 11:36:32 AM
If we had clubs doing things well, and county development squad activity bang on top of their game (well resourced, quality coaches, all properly managed) then there is a chance a player could get a sufficient mix of quantity and quality across any given week or month - without any dependence on schools. On that basis anything at all coming back from school activity would be a bonus.

In Tyrone for example, all three strands or pillars are in place. Club, school, county.

We have a lot of catch up to do to make our way into this elite territory. But....if we can make a little improvement on all fronts each year, in 5 years we could be much more competitive across the board. In ten we could be unrecognisable!

But this kind of push needs to be driven....it won't happen by itself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2022, 12:26:11 AM
Quote from: referee on February 16, 2022, 05:55:56 PM
Antrim only seem to get fellas on board development squad management if their wee Joey or Tommy are involved,this is where other counties seem to succeed, getting the best coaches in place and not just anyone

Fair enough point, think that's why Dev squads are all now headed by a member of Gaelfast , g Mcnulty, s mckenna and Ronan mcartan, 14,15 & 16 respectively. Then coaches filled in around them like sambo, l Higgins, o Doherty, f Fitzsimmons . Takes the doting daddy equation out of it. But kevin is right , maybe the better model in Antrim is to run regional Dev squads and not cherry pick, upping the standards of everyone. Worth considering I'd say

I was up at the development squad trials for one of the age groups before Christmas and was very unimpressed by the setup.

Majority of the coaches were from one Belfast club and surprise surprise, I think every player they had there got through.

There seemed to be a lead coach from Gaelfast and then 5 or 6 assisting, 4 of which were from the same club and the other two were from other Belfast clubs.

It definitely seemed to favour Belfast players and those from the country were small in numbers going through to the next stage compared to Belfast teams.

I would guarantee if a SW selection played against a Belfast selection the SW team would stuff them, so it is strange how the much higher majority of players selected were from Belfast.

You would nearly think those in charge hadn't watched a SW game all last season and stayed in Belfast for games......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.

Did I read the squads correctly that there was a player from St Comgall's on the St Mary's panel?

McKeating?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2022, 12:26:11 AM
Quote from: referee on February 16, 2022, 05:55:56 PM
Antrim only seem to get fellas on board development squad management if their wee Joey or Tommy are involved,this is where other counties seem to succeed, getting the best coaches in place and not just anyone

Fair enough point, think that's why Dev squads are all now headed by a member of Gaelfast , g Mcnulty, s mckenna and Ronan mcartan, 14,15 & 16 respectively. Then coaches filled in around them like sambo, l Higgins, o Doherty, f Fitzsimmons . Takes the doting daddy equation out of it. But kevin is right , maybe the better model in Antrim is to run regional Dev squads and not cherry pick, upping the standards of everyone. Worth considering I'd say

I was up at the development squad trials for one of the age groups before Christmas and was very unimpressed by the setup.

Majority of the coaches were from one Belfast club and surprise surprise, I think every player they had there got through.

There seemed to be a lead coach from Gaelfast and then 5 or 6 assisting, 4 of which were from the same club and the other two were from other Belfast clubs.

It definitely seemed to favour Belfast players and those from the country were small in numbers going through to the next stage compared to Belfast teams.

I would guarantee if a SW selection played against a Belfast selection the SW team would stuff them, so it is strange how the much higher majority of players selected were from Belfast.

You would nearly think those in charge hadn't watched a SW game all last season and stayed in Belfast for games......

Sure we are so far behind in Belfast we need as many players developing better than our country cousins otherwise we'll be competing for the Junior championship only
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2022, 12:26:11 AM
Quote from: referee on February 16, 2022, 05:55:56 PM
Antrim only seem to get fellas on board development squad management if their wee Joey or Tommy are involved,this is where other counties seem to succeed, getting the best coaches in place and not just anyone

Fair enough point, think that's why Dev squads are all now headed by a member of Gaelfast , g Mcnulty, s mckenna and Ronan mcartan, 14,15 & 16 respectively. Then coaches filled in around them like sambo, l Higgins, o Doherty, f Fitzsimmons . Takes the doting daddy equation out of it. But kevin is right , maybe the better model in Antrim is to run regional Dev squads and not cherry pick, upping the standards of everyone. Worth considering I'd say

I was up at the development squad trials for one of the age groups before Christmas and was very unimpressed by the setup.

Majority of the coaches were from one Belfast club and surprise surprise, I think every player they had there got through.

There seemed to be a lead coach from Gaelfast and then 5 or 6 assisting, 4 of which were from the same club and the other two were from other Belfast clubs.

It definitely seemed to favour Belfast players and those from the country were small in numbers going through to the next stage compared to Belfast teams.

I would guarantee if a SW selection played against a Belfast selection the SW team would stuff them, so it is strange how the much higher majority of players selected were from Belfast.

You would nearly think those in charge hadn't watched a SW game all last season and stayed in Belfast for games......

Sure we are so far behind in Belfast we need as many players developing better than our country cousins otherwise we'll be competing for the Junior championship only

Good point..... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.

Did I read the squads correctly that there was a player from St Comgall's on the St Mary's panel?

McKeating?

I noticed he was in the squad for the semi but when people were talking about the final squad he didn't seem to be mentioned but there was definitely an antrim boy in the panel at some point. Name I am not so sure on. Don't slag Belfast - MR is very sensitive  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 04:52:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 18, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.

Did I read the squads correctly that there was a player from St Comgall's on the St Mary's panel?

McKeating?

I noticed he was in the squad for the semi but when people were talking about the final squad he didn't seem to be mentioned but there was definitely an antrim boy in the panel at some point. Name I am not so sure on. Don't slag Belfast - MR is very sensitive  ;D

Junior b at this rate  ;D

Hoping we get the win on Saturday, I think they beat is handy enough last time. Limerick game put to bed and the manager will have the players pumped to get a win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
These are the games we need to be getting points from. Not a gimme by any stretch, but to keep our progress curve on track two points are essential tomorrow.

A day for grafters, Conor Murray, Marty Johnston, Declan Lynch need to be seeing action if available for selection. Paddy Mc Bride always in a good shift on his own pitch too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 18, 2022, 08:46:50 PM
Bannside , that must be some surface yous have in Portglenone? Hosting 3 matches tomorrow, fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2022, 09:15:41 PM
And a game tonight, just over. Pitch in fine condition Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 18, 2022, 10:00:07 PM
Paddy McCormick in for James mcauley only change I think since limerick game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
These are the games we need to be getting points from. Not a gimme by any stretch, but to keep our progress curve on track two points are essential tomorrow.

A day for grafters, Conor Murray, Marty Johnston, Declan Lynch need to be seeing action if available for selection. Paddy Mc Bride always in a good shift on his own pitch too.

Not listening to you BS.......tried my best.
A couple of enforced changes.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
These are the games we need to be getting points from. Not a gimme by any stretch, but to keep our progress curve on track two points are essential tomorrow.

A day for grafters, Conor Murray, Marty Johnston, Declan Lynch need to be seeing action if available for selection. Paddy Mc Bride always in a good shift on his own pitch too.

Not listening to you BS.......tried my best.
A couple of enforced changes.....

Your obvious influence on the wain after the Limerick result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
These are the games we need to be getting points from. Not a gimme by any stretch, but to keep our progress curve on track two points are essential tomorrow.

A day for grafters, Conor Murray, Marty Johnston, Declan Lynch need to be seeing action if available for selection. Paddy Mc Bride always in a good shift on his own pitch too.

Not listening to you BS.......tried my best.
A couple of enforced changes.....

Your obvious influence on the wain after the Limerick result
Now that quick retort was unexpected........lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
These are the games we need to be getting points from. Not a gimme by any stretch, but to keep our progress curve on track two points are essential tomorrow.

A day for grafters, Conor Murray, Marty Johnston, Declan Lynch need to be seeing action if available for selection. Paddy Mc Bride always in a good shift on his own pitch too.

Not listening to you BS.......tried my best.
A couple of enforced changes.....

Your obvious influence on the wain after the Limerick result
Now that quick retort was unexpected........lol

You throw them up I'll bat them out  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2022, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
These are the games we need to be getting points from. Not a gimme by any stretch, but to keep our progress curve on track two points are essential tomorrow.

A day for grafters, Conor Murray, Marty Johnston, Declan Lynch need to be seeing action if available for selection. Paddy Mc Bride always in a good shift on his own pitch too.

Not listening to you BS.......tried my best.
A couple of enforced changes.....

Your obvious influence on the wain after the Limerick result
Now that quick retort was completely unexpected......lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on February 18, 2022, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 18, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 18, 2022, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2022, 08:29:40 PM
Great to be at a high level game like that and see the club names Cargin, Moneyglass and Portglenone beside players names in the programme. Can only be a good thing. Can we not talk Brady into taking our minors or U20s at some point. Would love to see it.

Did I read the squads correctly that there was a player from St Comgall's on the St Mary's panel?

McKeating?

I noticed he was in the squad for the semi but when people were talking about the final squad he didn't seem to be mentioned but there was definitely an antrim boy in the panel at some point. Name I am not so sure on. Don't slag Belfast - MR is very sensitive  ;D
Yes young lad McKeating... MR can lay claim I think he has St Galls connection
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2022, 10:27:01 PM
Patrick McCormack won't let the side down. Good tidy player, great engine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 18, 2022, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2022, 10:27:01 PM
Patrick McCormack won't let the side down. Good tidy player, great engine.

Marc Jordan to replace the Dermot Mc Aleese......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 19, 2022, 02:34:13 PM
U20s got taught a harsh lesson in Portglenone this morning, last 10 minutes were a hard watch, some decent performances mixed in among it too, plenty of work to do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2022, 03:34:32 PM
The Lamhs boys are on fire
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 19, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 19, 2022, 02:34:13 PM
U20s got taught a harsh lesson in Portglenone this morning, last 10 minutes were a hard watch, some decent performances mixed in among it too, plenty of work to do.

Score line aside, there was plenty of good play from the u20s this morning. That Tyrone team are a level above in terms of size and power. The number 14!? Wow.

Great win for seniors here. Is there any good reason why Conor Murray doesn't start?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2022, 04:55:01 PM
Conor Murray changed the game imo, we all know he is one of the best players in the county. Ryan a class act too, those guys should be part of the mainstay of the team.

Patrick Mc Cormack has surely played his way into a starting position after that display today, good for the management to see the kind of performance Paddy gave every match in his debut season.

Honourable mentions to Ruairi McCann, Kevin Small, Jamie Gribben and big Ricky for solid displays. Two well earned points to take a little bit of pressure off with a huge but winnable game in Portlaoise next weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 19, 2022, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 19, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 19, 2022, 02:34:13 PM
U20s got taught a harsh lesson in Portglenone this morning, last 10 minutes were a hard watch, some decent performances mixed in among it too, plenty of work to do.

Score line aside, there was plenty of good play from the u20s this morning. That Tyrone team are a level above in terms of size and power. The number 14!? Wow.

Great win for seniors here. Is there any good reason why Conor Murray doesn't start?

No 14 was Michael Mcgleenan, big matts son, absolute animal of a man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 19, 2022, 09:23:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 19, 2022, 04:55:01 PM
Conor Murray changed the game imo, we all know he is one of the best players in the county. Ryan a class act too, those guys should be part of the mainstay of the team.

Patrick Mc Cormack has surely played his way into a starting position after that display today, good for the management to see the kind of performance Paddy gave every match in his debut season.

Honourable mentions to Ruairi McCann, Kevin Small, Jamie Gribben and big Ricky for solid displays. Two well earned points to take a little bit of pressure off with a huge but winnable game in Portlaoise next weekend.

Thought Ruari McCann was outstanding, covered every blade of grass, brilliant shift
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2022, 04:08:31 AM
Indeed Saffs. A particularly good display by Ruairi, credit where it's due. In top three performances in my book behind Paddy Mc Cormack and Conor Murray.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
Following recent very disheartening u20 football result v Tyrone - a 20 point stuffing. Can anyone advise how many from u20s panel come from the fertile crescent of SW Antrim and how many went to Ivy League schools in South Derry? Or was the hammering due to City players being in the squad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 20, 2022, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
Following recent very disheartening u20 football result v Tyrone - a 20 point stuffing. Can anyone advise how many from u20s panel come from the fertile crescent of SW Antrim and how many went to Ivy League schools in South Derry? Or was the hammering due to City players being in the squad
Didn't see the team but I seen Derry also lost their u20 game yesterday by 17 points, wouldn't read too much into these early results but then there are petty points needing to be made I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 20, 2022, 04:46:36 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
Following recent very disheartening u20 football result v Tyrone - a 20 point stuffing. Can anyone advise how many from u20s panel come from the fertile crescent of SW Antrim and how many went to Ivy League schools in South Derry? Or was the hammering due to City players being in the squad

Had a look at the under-20 line up for the Tyrone game and as far as I can see.....two in the team went to South Derry schools....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 20, 2022, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2022, 03:34:32 PM
The Lamhs boys are on fire
are they SW boys too like the st Endas boys have been claimed ??  Only saying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
St endas opted to join the south west not the other way round ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2022, 09:48:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 20, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
St endas opted to join the south west not the other way round ;)

They even have culchie accents!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 12:20:10 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on February 20, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
Following recent very disheartening u20 football result v Tyrone - a 20 point stuffing. Can anyone advise how many from u20s panel come from the fertile crescent of SW Antrim and how many went to Ivy League schools in South Derry? Or was the hammering due to City players being in the squad

Think the hammering more to do with Tyrone scoring 3-6 in the last ten minutes after Antrim lost a player to a black card for those 10 and big quinn got injured but all subs had been used. 13 v 15 at that level equals hammering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 08:02:14 AM
13 v 15 at any level equals poor management in any coaching guideline. We were 1 - 3 down after four minutes, game as good as over. In fairness we battled gamely for the next thirty or forty minutes, and 20 points is probably an unfair reflection of a large part of the game. But if both teams were playing tomorrow my guess is that there would still be double figures in it.

Tyrone are, as you'de expect, a well drilled outfit. No surprises there. Unfortunately we are not, or not yet anyway as apparently the set up has only been together for 6 weeks. You'll find Tyrone have been together a lot longer, and probably about 6 or 8 challenge games under their belt. On that basis we simply don't deserve to be competitive with them.

On a technical note, Tyrone are moving the ball quickly, nice mixture of through the hands and kicking passes. Our men are consistently trying to carry balls through tackles and making life very hard for themselves. That simply won't work at this level and needs to change urgently or there will be further double digit losses in the weeks ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 21, 2022, 08:26:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2022, 08:02:14 AM
13 v 15 at any level equals poor management in any coaching guideline. We were 1 - 3 down after four minutes, game as good as over. In fairness we battled gamely for the next thirty or forty minutes, and 20 points is probably an unfair reflection of a large part of the game. But if both teams were playing tomorrow my guess is that there would still be double figures in it.

Tyrone are, as you'de expect, a well drilled outfit. No surprises there. Unfortunately we are not, or not yet anyway as apparently the set up has only been together for 6 weeks. You'll find Tyrone have been together a lot longer, and probably about 6 or 8 challenge games under their belt. On that basis we simply don't deserve to be competitive with them.

On a technical note, Tyrone are moving the ball quickly, nice mixture of through the hands and kicking passes. Our men are consistently trying to carry balls through tackles and making life very hard for themselves. That simply won't work at this level and needs to change urgently or there will be further double digit losses in the weeks ahead.
I'd normally be critical but I know talking to the Cargin lads at it Antrim were very well organised at U17 and 20 and had a name in place for the 20s (all agreed) who has had a big recent success but he pulled out on them at the very last minute without warning leaving them having to go and seek a management team from scratch late November. I wasn't at the game but BS your analysis is correct that Tyrone are weeks ahead of them in preparation. I do feel this group will get stronger in the weeks ahead and lets not forget Tyrone are probably one of the favourites for the U20 All Ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 08:27:46 AM
Looking forward to Laois on Saturday night. This division is opening up as expected, every team capable of dropping points. Our games get a bit harder now, good to have a couple of wins under our belt. Safety first and go from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 08:33:18 AM
Fair enough EOC, there were periods we were hanging in rightly for. The obvious gap to me was fitness (that can be worked on) and the length of time each player takes in the ball. Again that can be worked with. For what it's worth the players seem to like the set up, that's always a good start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 08:41:45 AM
What's Dermot injury BS? Will he be back for Laois?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 08:56:50 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2022, 08:33:18 AM
Fair enough EOC, there were periods we were hanging in rightly for. The obvious gap to me was fitness (that can be worked on) and the length of time each player takes in the ball. Again that can be worked with. For what it's worth the players seem to like the set up, that's always a good start.

My lad was playing and was guilty on a fair few occasions of doing exactly what you say bs , carrying ball into the tackle. On a very quiet journey post game to Corrigan he said the speed at which Tyrone closed down was phenomenal, he had never experienced that level of intensity before. Again back to playing top level schools football. The u20 beat Rossa seniors last week in a challenge by 16 points, so you can see the jump in level to competitive county u20 is massive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 21, 2022, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2022, 09:48:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 20, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
St endas opted to join the south west not the other way round ;)

They even have culchie accents!

Culchie (an unsophisticated country person)........Really?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 10:51:26 AM
Dermot hurt his shoulder against Limerick Saffs but is hoping to be available for selection at the weekend. Management have some tough calls to make, Jordy did ok, Paddy Mc Aleer also did little wrong. Cannot see how Patrick Mc Cormack will not be retained in the corner. I liked Peter Healy in a corner back position too, driving forward. Although he was excellent against Donegal a few weeks ago at 5.

Personally I think we need a lot more punch upfront and Conor Murray must enter the equation. He will drive straight through the middle when others are thinking about it. Too good for ten minutes here or there.

Good to have selection headaches of the right kind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 12:16:51 PM
Peter Healy did have a good game on Saturday, but his performances at corner back last year against Waterford and Armagh would give grave concern for playing him in the corner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2022, 12:26:39 PM
He's too attacking IMO. So is McCabe. Both very good footballers but too front footed for that position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 12:34:39 PM
Opposition on Saturday were so poor hard to gauge any of our own lads, final pass let us down so often or it could have easily been 12-15 point win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 12:44:59 PM
Fair play Saffs, not too many were in Dungarvan lol and you're right PH was caught out a few times that day. He had a full season at CB with Lenny and he was superb. Not many can play CB - it's a very specialised position. Shoehorning  outfield players into that position is asking for trouble. Mc Cabe an example of this, doubt if he ever played there in his life, but Enda obviously going forward foot first. That has risks, as I've previously stated, and to be fair Eoghan has done well enough overall, fair play, although he was definitely caught out a couple of times on Saturday.

We will get away with this whilst we are dictating the game against weaker teams, but it gets a bit harder from here on in when we will have a lot more to do defensively.

We are on a fairly good run at present and that can paper over a crack or two. Sometimes there may be closer scrutiny after a defeat, it's understandable not to do too much tweaking to a team that's winning matches.

But Healy and Mc Cormack are both specialised corner backs imo, our panel is coming down with options at HB. That's my opinion for what its worth, and that hasn't changed since last year when I thought we were a bit gung ho at times. Trying to be constructive here btw, nothing else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2022, 12:54:37 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 12:34:39 PM
Opposition on Saturday were so poor hard to gauge any of our own lads, final pass let us down so often or it could have easily been 12-15 point win

They have dropped way of the pace, they beat us handy in the past, so we have come on a lot if it could have been easily 12-15 point win

On the speed of football regarding the under 20's its noticeable at school level, having done a fair few school games over the years its the first thing you see, players are releasing the ball quicker and not getting dragged into as many challenges, dwelling on the ball only allows the other team to organise and get tackles in, losing possession or overcarrying the ball.

Its the same in Hurling, the big counties were releasing the ball quicker out of defence and into space, the weaker counties are trying to break tackles and laying of haymaker balls to no one.

Rossa in fairness didn't have a full pick against the under20's and got a hammering because of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 02:58:28 PM
Exactly MR. But to play the quick one touch game, especially off the shoulder requires superb fitness levels. I though Tyrone look a good bit fitter tbh. They have a few future senior stars in their ranks too. Ruairi Canavan something else, big Mc Gleenan a real handful too. Was always going to be a huge ask, the real test will be Doire in the cship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2022, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2022, 02:58:28 PM
Exactly MR. But to play the quick one touch game, especially off the shoulder requires superb fitness levels. I though Tyrone look a good bit fitter tbh. They have a few future senior stars in their ranks too. Ruairi Canavan something else, big Mc Gleenan a real handful too. Was always going to be a huge ask, the real test will be Doire in the cship.

Why are they not fit enough? Players at that level should be presenting themselves at county level to a certain fitness requirement, Its up to the coaches to provide a strength and conditioning program, its up to them to get to that level. You can't blame schools for unfit kids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 03:38:38 PM
True, but this aspect alone needs co -ordination. Someone needs to be overseeing it, joining it up from previous management team, and pulling it all together. Leaves current management behind the 8 ball before it even starts.

I've been involved at that level and you'll get punished if you're not getting your A game together fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2022, 03:38:38 PM
True, but this aspect alone needs co -ordination. Someone needs to be overseeing it, joining it up from previous management team, and pulling it all together. Leaves current management behind the 8 ball before it even starts.

I've been involved at that level and you'll get punished if you're not getting your A game together fairly quickly.

Those fellas been on an S&c programme with Brendan Murphy since start of November before the mgt was even confirmed and also been told their program will continue and be monitored and feedback given all through 2022 even after they go out of championship. They do pitch sessions twice a week and group gym sessions twice a week, plus have to complete their individual programs onto of group stuff. Add it club manager doing his nut as only going to one club senior session per week. Tough ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2022, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2022, 02:58:28 PM
Exactly MR. But to play the quick one touch game, especially off the shoulder requires superb fitness levels. I though Tyrone look a good bit fitter tbh. They have a few future senior stars in their ranks too. Ruairi Canavan something else, big Mc Gleenan a real handful too. Was always going to be a huge ask, the real test will be Doire in the cship.

Why are they not fit enough? Players at that level should be presenting themselves at county level to a certain fitness requirement, Its up to the coaches to provide a strength and conditioning program, its up to them to get to that level. You can't blame schools for unfit kids

I didn't really see fitness as a major issue on Saturday MR. After a bad start with the keeper making a huge error we matched Tyrone for most of the game. Problems really arose when we started introducing subs. None of the subs added anything but rather detracted from us were Tyrone were able to maintain their level or perhaps even up it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 04:37:28 PM
It was myself who thought there was a disparity amongst the fitness levels. Is hard interval running incorporated into the pitch sessions? And more on top of that. It was just a personal observation, actually pleased to know the programme has been ongoing from November tbh, at least that shows there has been some coordination behind the scenes. The GPS stats won't lie though. What are Tyrone peers achieving, what results are we getting? This level of detail is crucial. Information is key.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 21, 2022, 04:38:53 PM
We just aren't there with that footballing culture yet that the likes of these Tyrone lads live and breath. Everyone has responsibility for that including schools. I've a nephew on the 20's and they have been wanting for nothing in this set up in terms of gym and coaching but what good is that now as a 19 year old? They need this environment at 13 and 14 years of age all the way up.

Laois are going to tell us a lot about ourselves on Saturday. I hope we gamble a bit more on the starting 15 and get the pace and scores the Murrays and McBride will surely bring. It's hard to knock a winning side but a few different horses for a very difficult course would be my call.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2022, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2022, 03:38:38 PM
True, but this aspect alone needs co -ordination. Someone needs to be overseeing it, joining it up from previous management team, and pulling it all together. Leaves current management behind the 8 ball before it even starts.

I've been involved at that level and you'll get punished if you're not getting your A game together fairly quickly.

Those fellas been on an S&c programme with Brendan Murphy since start of November before the mgt was even confirmed and also been told their program will continue and be monitored and feedback given all through 2022 even after they go out of championship. They do pitch sessions twice a week and group gym sessions twice a week, plus have to complete their individual programs onto of group stuff. Add it club manager doing his nut as only going to one club senior session per week. Tough ask.

As I said these are things you are committing to, lifestyle choices, if it's a big ask or too tough then we'll never complete
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 21, 2022, 06:33:29 PM
Jeez, so a few are suggesting Mc Ginley makes changes for the trip to Portlaoise.....

I am more than sure he will answer those calls and shoulder responsibility if we lose.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 21, 2022, 06:45:44 PM
It's just an opinion cb. Enda has done excellent with the squad and will know exactly what's required to keep winning. Winning matches is rarely as simple a case of not changing a winning teams. Like I say, horses for courses. Conor Murray must start unless there's an injury or fitness issue. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 21, 2022, 06:47:50 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 21, 2022, 06:45:44 PM
It's just an opinion cb. Enda has done excellent with the squad and will know exactly what's required to keep winning. Winning matches is rarely as simple a case of not changing a winning teams. Like I say, horses for courses. Conor Murray must start unless there's an injury or fitness issue. Just my opinion.

You may  be right, but be brave and tell him who should be left out.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 21, 2022, 07:05:07 PM
Murray for Mcaleer, a straight swap on last weeks team. Id maybe put another argument in to play him in the corner and start Mcbride in at half forward. T McCann to maybe take a breather and start on the bench.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2022, 07:18:37 PM
Wouldn't be dropping wee Jamie though. He's starting to look the part. Looks like he's never been away!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 21, 2022, 07:53:32 PM
Agree totally BS. Gribben has been magnificent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2022, 11:02:57 PM
It's a good balance playing small and McCann at midfield and dropping mick back into the d. Small is growing into an inter county player, improves with every game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2022, 04:43:57 PM
Both are definitely having great seasons to date. Long may it last.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 22, 2022, 11:15:50 PM
Club secretary saying that we're to expect a radical restructure of leagues proposed by the end of this season, anyone heard anything about this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success

Agree with MR here. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success

Agree with MR here.

County have backed the motion that each individual county decides what age group its own competitions are set at and not have to adhere to edict from croke on ages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 23, 2022, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success

Agree with MR here.

County have backed the motion that each individual county decides what age group its own competitions are set at and not have to adhere to edict from croke on ages

Eugene young put up something on Facebook yesterday and he skirted round the agegroups issue by talking about player burnout using statistics for intercounty underage footballers and their training load.

Yes, there is an issue there but changing the age groups won't solve that issue which he touched on, but whilst focusing on intercounty players he totally missed the mark on club players sitting on their hands as teams like ours can't fulfill fixtures without county players and therein lies the problem faced by small clubs throughout Ireland.

We need to stop treating underage county teams as teams that need to train two, three times a week on their own, not being involved with their clubs. At best once a week with their county team and twice with the club IMO and that'll do more to prevent player dropout at all levels than messing around with the age groups and reducing the workload of intercounty underage player.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2022, 11:07:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 23, 2022, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success

Agree with MR here.

County have backed the motion that each individual county decides what age group its own competitions are set at and not have to adhere to edict from croke on ages

Eugene young put up something on Facebook yesterday and he skirted round the agegroups issue by talking about player burnout using statistics for intercounty underage footballers and their training load.

Yes, there is an issue there but changing the age groups won't solve that issue which he touched on, but whilst focusing on intercounty players he totally missed the mark on club players sitting on their hands as teams like ours can't fulfill fixtures without county players and therein lies the problem faced by small clubs throughout Ireland.

We need to stop treating underage county teams as teams that need to train two, three times a week on their own, not being involved with their clubs. At best once a week with their county team and twice with the club IMO and that'll do more to prevent player dropout at all levels than messing around with the age groups and reducing the workload of intercounty underage player.

I think the last few pages on here detailing the schools involvement on this is the biggest reason for the issues that arise around this age group and problems associated.

Schools using GAA as a way to attract pupils to the school, training them like mad for competitions with little or no thought for the club or county setups. Clubs having to pick up the pieces when these players are over trained and injured as a result.

This is bigger than just development/ county squads leading to burn out. But the schools seem nearly too powerful to tackle in a coherent way.

There has to be a complete approach to this taking everything into account. Until they are prepared to take on all the interested parties then it is going to be an issue.

For what it is worth, u18 works better for the clubs up here, but the change was made to suit the southern schooling system and they leaving cert. Hence why I think it is going to be struggle to revert back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 22, 2022, 11:15:50 PM
Club secretary saying that we're to expect a radical restructure of leagues proposed by the end of this season, anyone heard anything about this?

It was mentioned on Monday night, in order to ease fixture planning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 23, 2022, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2022, 11:07:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 23, 2022, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success

Agree with MR here.

County have backed the motion that each individual county decides what age group its own competitions are set at and not have to adhere to edict from croke on ages

Eugene young put up something on Facebook yesterday and he skirted round the agegroups issue by talking about player burnout using statistics for intercounty underage footballers and their training load.

Yes, there is an issue there but changing the age groups won't solve that issue which he touched on, but whilst focusing on intercounty players he totally missed the mark on club players sitting on their hands as teams like ours can't fulfill fixtures without county players and therein lies the problem faced by small clubs throughout Ireland.

We need to stop treating underage county teams as teams that need to train two, three times a week on their own, not being involved with their clubs. At best once a week with their county team and twice with the club IMO and that'll do more to prevent player dropout at all levels than messing around with the age groups and reducing the workload of intercounty underage player.

I think the last few pages on here detailing the schools involvement on this is the biggest reason for the issues that arise around this age group and problems associated.

Schools using GAA as a way to attract pupils to the school, training them like mad for competitions with little or no thought for the club or county setups. Clubs having to pick up the pieces when these players are over trained and injured as a result.

This is bigger than just development/ county squads leading to burn out. But the schools seem nearly too powerful to tackle in a coherent way.

There has to be a complete approach to this taking everything into account. Until they are prepared to take on all the interested parties then it is going to be an issue.

For what it is worth, u18 works better for the clubs up here, but the change was made to suit the southern schooling system and they leaving cert. Hence why I think it is going to be struggle to revert back.

The motion going forward takes this into account and asks for each county to have autonomy in deciding their age structures.

I don't think there's a one size fits all for the very reason you mention but at least if the six counties could align then we can at least have another
meaningful year of juvenile competitions for 18yo's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2022, 11:07:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 23, 2022, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success

Agree with MR here.

County have backed the motion that each individual county decides what age group its own competitions are set at and not have to adhere to edict from croke on ages

Eugene young put up something on Facebook yesterday and he skirted round the agegroups issue by talking about player burnout using statistics for intercounty underage footballers and their training load.

Yes, there is an issue there but changing the age groups won't solve that issue which he touched on, but whilst focusing on intercounty players he totally missed the mark on club players sitting on their hands as teams like ours can't fulfill fixtures without county players and therein lies the problem faced by small clubs throughout Ireland.

We need to stop treating underage county teams as teams that need to train two, three times a week on their own, not being involved with their clubs. At best once a week with their county team and twice with the club IMO and that'll do more to prevent player dropout at all levels than messing around with the age groups and reducing the workload of intercounty underage player.

I think the last few pages on here detailing the schools involvement on this is the biggest reason for the issues that arise around this age group and problems associated.

Schools using GAA as a way to attract pupils to the school, training them like mad for competitions with little or no thought for the club or county setups. Clubs having to pick up the pieces when these players are over trained and injured as a result.

This is bigger than just development/ county squads leading to burn out. But the schools seem nearly too powerful to tackle in a coherent way.

There has to be a complete approach to this taking everything into account. Until they are prepared to take on all the interested parties then it is going to be an issue.

For what it is worth, u18 works better for the clubs up here, but the change was made to suit the southern schooling system and they leaving cert. Hence why I think it is going to be struggle to revert back.
There's a common denominator here - coaches.  Sadly a lot of coaches in truth are in it for themselves and the chance of glory.  They'll train a team into the ground and it's for their own hype.  I think it's an uncomfortable truth, people would rather praise coaches as great volunteers, but there's another side to it which GAA hasn't got a grip on.  I feel very sorry for a talented 17 year old whose minor coach, school coach and county coach all want success. 

I hope we see a return to U18.  Watching 17 year old lads play what will be probably be their last game has been shocking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 11:56:30 AM
If the croke park motion to move minor to u19 is successful  then all tbe othet motions will be ruled out !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 23, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 23, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Does anyone know has the county taken a position yet ahead of Congress on the best age for minor?

Not sure but I much prefer the previous under 18/minor set up, maybe going at under 20 rather that under 21 might have merit but under 17 at minor wasn't a great success
What way are they voting on the proposal to bring in an U19 age group at county level?

Agree with MR here.

County have backed the motion that each individual county decides what age group its own competitions are set at and not have to adhere to edict from croke on ages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 23, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
County board some mess, championship draws put off again and league starts Sunday week and no one knows who they are even playing yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 23, 2022, 01:11:09 PM
I would love to know where all these games are going to be played. Our club have been able to train very little other than basketball and indoor circuit sessions so far! How the heck is a league suppose to start next week! :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 23, 2022, 01:20:41 PM
Not many pitches available for all these games, 6th March a very early start.
What way will Antrim vote on the proposal for U19 at county level, it seems crazy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 23, 2022, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 23, 2022, 11:56:30 AM
If the croke park motion to move minor to u19 is successful  then all tbe othet motions will be ruled out !

And when will these be played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 23, 2022, 04:21:08 PM
Fixture lists all out today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 04:21:08 PM
Fixture lists all out today

LGFA are the only ones Ive seen today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 23, 2022, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 23, 2022, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Spike on February 23, 2022, 04:21:08 PM
Fixture lists all out today

LGFA are the only ones Ive seen today

i should have put '?' at end.  Cant be long before the Mens surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 23, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
County board some mess, championship draws put off again and league starts Sunday week and no one knows who they are even playing yet.

think are new sponsors or additional sponsors coming onboard and that was why they were put back to get deals finialized (championship draw)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 23, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 23, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
County board some mess, championship draws put off again and league starts Sunday week and no one knows who they are even playing yet.
20 league games and a group championship this year according to the dates going around. Madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 23, 2022, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 23, 2022, 01:20:41 PM
Not many pitches available for all these games, 6th March a very early start.
What way will Antrim vote on the proposal for U19 at county level, it seems crazy?

Yep, our pitch is sitting in water, you wouldnt dream of training or playing a game on it, need a big change in weather next week if league games are going to happen, county voted against u19 proposal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 23, 2022, 05:40:40 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 23, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 23, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
County board some mess, championship draws put off again and league starts Sunday week and no one knows who they are even playing yet.
20 league games and a group championship this year according to the dates going around. Madness

My son has started with the seniors this year and has been told they'll have TWENTY league games, and the first game starts next week! The earliest and longest league (March 6 - August) in Ireland. Madness.
Oh, and no fixtures out yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 07:07:04 PM
Quote from: ck on February 23, 2022, 05:40:40 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 23, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 23, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
County board some mess, championship draws put off again and league starts Sunday week and no one knows who they are even playing yet.
20 league games and a group championship this year according to the dates going around. Madness

My son has started with the seniors this year and has been told they'll have TWENTY league games, and the first game starts next week! The earliest and longest league (March 6 - August) in Ireland. Madness.
Oh, and no fixtures out yet.

Div 1  will be single round with spilt , so that will be 18 league games , spread over 20 dates.
DIV 2 Same format - 16/17 games
Div 3 - same formst - 16 games .

League restructuring into 4 divisions ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Are we complaining that there are too many games now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 07:40:45 PM
I'd be happy with the number of games being played + championship games, most teams will have 23/24 games per year. Games to training ratio would be alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 23, 2022, 07:40:45 PM
I'd be happy with the number of games being played + championship games, most teams will have 23/24 games per year. Games to training ratio would be alright

But but but but.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2022, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 23, 2022, 07:40:45 PM
I'd be happy with the number of games being played + championship games, most teams will have 23/24 games per year. Games to training ratio would be alright

But but but but.....

Sure they will.moan either way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2022, 08:46:48 PM
Correct Delgany, will never please everyone. Too little, too few, too long a league....looks ok to me. Plenty of time for county players to be back to their clubs for the vast majority of games. The club's with the biggest number of county panelists should not be punished, it's only fair that they should not be looking down the face of relegation. A good mixture here...with a bit of additional common sense the club's with most players unavailable because of county duty should be paired against each other in the early stages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 23, 2022, 09:50:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 23, 2022, 08:46:48 PM
Correct Delgany, will never please everyone. Too little, too few, too long a league....looks ok to me. Plenty of time for county players to be back to their clubs for the vast majority of games. The club's with the biggest number of county panelists should not be punished, it's only fair that they should not be looking down the face of relegation. A good mixture here...with a bit of additional common sense the club's with most players unavailable because of county duty should be paired against each other in the early stages.

County Fixtures will have big impact on leagues. USFC V Cavan is on 23/4, winnable game imo, Qtr on 7/5.
Tailteann Cup starts 21/5 - prelim round , rd 1- 28/5 ; qtr 5 june. Realistic timeframe but could go further !

All county leagues -  6th March to 14th July -
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2022, 12:08:57 PM
If we get the league's completed in that timeframe, around county team interests, that will be a fantastic achievement. Then on to the big one, the club championships.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 24, 2022, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 24, 2022, 12:08:57 PM
If we get the league's completed in that timeframe, around county team interests, that will be a fantastic achievement. Then on to the big one, the club championships.

And no attempt as yet to make known dates and fixtures for those juvenile fixtures.

I am sure South West clubs do not reflect with gratitude on the day their previously successful juvenile competitions were forced into an all county amalgamation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 24, 2022, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 24, 2022, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 24, 2022, 12:08:57 PM
If we get the league's completed in that timeframe, around county team interests, that will be a fantastic achievement. Then on to the big one, the club championships.

And no attempt as yet to make known dates and fixtures for those juvenile fixtures.

I am sure South West clubs do not reflect with gratitude on the day their previously successful juvenile competitions were forced into an all county amalgamation.

Juvenile fixtures are delayed because clubs are withdrawing from competitions  up until Monday past
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 24, 2022, 02:37:39 PM
Anyone want to put their neck out and predict a shock in this years championship?

Toss of a coin between Cargin, Creggan and Lamh Dhearg for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 02:43:21 PM
Quote from: Caesar on February 24, 2022, 02:37:39 PM
Anyone want to put their neck out and predict a shock in this years championship?

Toss of a coin between Cargin, Creggan and Lamh Dhearg for me.

A new winner last year, why not this year? Teams have shown themselves to be normal when before they looked out of sight.. St Johns were millimeters from going into extra time v Creggan, had that ball hit the net they had some momentum and could have went on to win.

I'll add the Johnnies to that list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 24, 2022, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: Caesar on February 24, 2022, 02:37:39 PM
Anyone want to put their neck out and predict a shock in this years championship?

Toss of a coin between Cargin, Creggan and Lamh Dhearg for me.

A two horse race Creggan & Cargin the only two teams who can win the championship. The others can on a one off maybe bt them. Aghagallon still some ground to close to win a championship, Portglenone can improve, maybe. Lamh Dhearg are regressing and St Johns are not good enough to win it outright.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 24, 2022, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 24, 2022, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 24, 2022, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 24, 2022, 12:08:57 PM
If we get the league's completed in that timeframe, around county team interests, that will be a fantastic achievement. Then on to the big one, the club championships.

And no attempt as yet to make known dates and fixtures for those juvenile fixtures.

I am sure South West clubs do not reflect with gratitude on the day their previously successful juvenile competitions were forced into an all county amalgamation.

Juvenile fixtures are delayed because clubs are withdrawing from competitions  up until Monday past
what teams? sad to hear that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2022, 04:01:04 PM
Your first paragraph DK is at odds with your second..Expect us to be firmly in the mix this year. New management team on a wavelength already with players that previous management were nowhere near. Can we improve enough to lift the Mc Namee? Really can't see why not!

Might as well just say it as think it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: clubman21 on February 24, 2022, 04:22:40 PM
Instant success for Mckeever and Canavan perhaps.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 24, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: clubman21 on February 24, 2022, 04:22:40 PM
Instant success for Mckeever and Canavan perhaps.
If there's going to be a new name, Portglenone are the ones to watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 24, 2022, 04:54:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 24, 2022, 04:01:04 PM
Your first paragraph DK is at odds with your second..Expect us to be firmly in the mix this year. New management team on a wavelength already with players that previous management were nowhere near. Can we improve enough to lift the Mc Namee? Really can't see why not!

Might as well just say it as think it.
BS I will give you a run down on how your year will go.
Your boys are training like mad already, John McKeever is targeting the league campaign. You only have one county player, so this is easy. You will get off to a flying start with win after win in the league.
However when the other experienced teams get up to speed and peak in September it will be deja vu. You may even get to the final like Aghagallon did last year as all the good teams were on the other side, but you will fall well short. You don't have the quality (particularly in the forward line) to lift a title currently.
Sorry BS but those are my thoughts on this matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 24, 2022, 05:02:48 PM
Can't see many games going ahead next Sunday, not many Pitches will be playable after this spell of weather and the earlier than normal start dates.

I'd say our refs will be up to speed with challenge games that have taken place over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2022, 05:39:41 PM
EOC your rationale will be shared by many and may well turn out to be accurate. It's all about opinions..I expect us to be a noticably better team under current management and that should (on paper anyway) leave us close. If I'm wrong I will very begrudgingly eat humble pie lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 24, 2022, 06:22:46 PM
Fixtures published for March - 3 games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
Some tasty starter games I see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 24, 2022, 06:39:56 PM
From what I saw in Portglenone last Saturday at the U20 match there are 1 or 2 young players that will no doubt boost Mckeever and Canavans chances of passing Cargin and Creggan. On that note, Glenravel look well stocked for young talent this year too. They are my tip for intermediate success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2022, 07:49:38 PM
Under 20s away to Down on Saturday at midday, then a few hours on down the road to Portlaoise, be there in plenty of time for our big test against Laois who are a hardened div 2  /div 3 outfit. This will be a good test of where we currently are. A draw would be a great result for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 24, 2022, 09:09:48 PM
Bannside I agree 100% with you regarding our prospects, everything I've seen and heard looks great and we have every reason to be positive, I would also have to agree with EOC however, I think we are a forward or two short of what's needed. Would love to be proved wrong!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 10:41:47 PM
So the fixtures are out and no chat? You are a strange bunch on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 24, 2022, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 24, 2022, 05:39:41 PM
EOC your rationale will be shared by many and may well turn out to be accurate. It's all about opinions..I expect us to be a noticably better team under current management and that should (on paper anyway) leave us close. If I'm wrong I will very begrudgingly eat humble pie lol.
I could be wrong time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 24, 2022, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 10:41:47 PM
So the fixtures are out and no chat? You are a strange bunch on here

Not they're not out. They have sent out the first 3 games only. Why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: ck on February 24, 2022, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 10:41:47 PM
So the fixtures are out and no chat? You are a strange bunch on here

Not they're not out. They have sent out the first 3 games only. Why?

So not happy that fixtures are out? Have you been on the fixtures set up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 08:04:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2022, 10:41:47 PM
So the fixtures are out and no chat? You are a strange bunch on here

Any chance of putting them up here? I haven't seen them yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 24, 2022, 07:49:38 PM
Under 20s away to Down on Saturday at midday, then a few hours on down the road to Portlaoise, be there in plenty of time for our big test against Laois who are a hardened div 2  /div 3 outfit. This will be a good test of where we currently are. A draw would be a great result for us.

Huge test for Seniors. Laois have been hit an miss, a surprise defeat to Westmeath and an easy enough win over Louth, bit like ourselves with that loss to Limerick  >:(
The u20 game has been moved to Atticall i heard this morning by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 09:02:37 AM
Lamh Dhearg v cargin, St Johns v casements, Moneyglass v All Saints look the most interesting clashes in the leagues for the first day out, new mgt teams with them all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:12:03 AM
Just seen them, on any given Sunday there are 32 games down to be played, between U17 (for now) and Senior, have we got 32 referees? And venues capable of taking 2 matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:12:03 AM
Just seen them, on any given Sunday there are 32 games down to be played, between U17 (for now) and Senior, have we got 32 referees? And venues capable of taking 2 matches?

2 games a day for the ref's! sure handy expenses  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:12:03 AM
Just seen them, on any given Sunday there are 32 games down to be played, between U17 (for now) and Senior, have we got 32 referees? And venues capable of taking 2 matches?

2 games a day for the ref's! sure handy expenses  ;D ;D ;D

Sometimes 3....LGFA!!!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:12:03 AM
Just seen them, on any given Sunday there are 32 games down to be played, between U17 (for now) and Senior, have we got 32 referees? And venues capable of taking 2 matches?

2 games a day for the ref's! sure handy expenses  ;D ;D ;D

Sometimes 3....LGFA!!!  8) 8)

At least there's no slabbering in those games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:38:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 09:12:03 AM
Just seen them, on any given Sunday there are 32 games down to be played, between U17 (for now) and Senior, have we got 32 referees? And venues capable of taking 2 matches?

2 games a day for the ref's! sure handy expenses  ;D ;D ;D

Sometimes 3....LGFA!!!  8) 8)

At least there's no slabbering in those games

Wanna bet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
Div 1 relegation battle between Rossa, Ahoghill and Gort na Mona
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
Div 1 relegation battle between Rossa, Ahoghill and Gort na Mona

Rossa? I'd say they are strong enough, ref'd one of the other teams lately, it will be a long season for one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 25, 2022, 10:10:40 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
Div 1 relegation battle between Rossa, Ahoghill and Gort na Mona

;D Behave yourself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 10:17:51 AM
Rossa have unfinished business in he hurling, melt down the week of and day of the final, a big effort to get back there i think. Their football results last year flattered them. Picked up 4 straight wins at the start of the season when there was no threat of relegation and everyone was playing the kids. I think they could find themselves in trouble this year.
Gort na mona are as sure a thing to be relegated as you could possibly find.
Ahoghill are the masters of survival but that run has to come to an end some time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 25, 2022, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 10:17:51 AM
Rossa have unfinished business in he hurling, melt down the week of and day of the final, a big effort to get back there i think. Their football results last year flattered them. Picked up 4 straight wins at the start of the season when there was no threat of relegation and everyone was playing the kids. I think they could find themselves in trouble this year.
Gort na mona are as sure a thing to be relegated as you could possibly find.
Ahoghill are the masters of survival but that run has to come to an end some time.

Think Rossa got an actual wake up call last year in the final as to how far away they are in reality.
Also with travel back open again to the US I would expect they will lose more than one or two for the summer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 10:17:51 AM
Rossa have unfinished business in he hurling, melt down the week of and day of the final, a big effort to get back there i think. Their football results last year flattered them. Picked up 4 straight wins at the start of the season when there was no threat of relegation and everyone was playing the kids. I think they could find themselves in trouble this year.
Gort na mona are as sure a thing to be relegated as you could possibly find.
Ahoghill are the masters of survival but that run has to come to an end some time.

Rossa have one out field player on the football panel I think, the first load of games will be difficult for teams that have multiple players, St Enda's being one of those teams. Rossa could end up doing exactly what you have said already and win those first few games to get the base for survival.

Who knows, as you say some unfinished business in the hurling. Having seen them lately in a challenge game they seem to be going along well enough and a few hurlers that are on the county panel will feed back into the teams also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
Jeez MR, i watched Rossa against the County U20s. Dommo was the only player who you could say won his individual contest, they were very poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
Jeez MR, i watched Rossa against the County U20s. Dommo was the only player who you could say won his individual contest, they were very poor.

They hadn't a decent team out for that game. They played a lot better against Bredagh and still players missing. They'll be fine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 25, 2022, 11:15:51 AM
MR2 thoughts on the game on Tuesday night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on February 25, 2022, 11:15:51 AM
MR2 thoughts on the game on Tuesday night?

That was a serious step up in quality from the Johnnies friendly to be fair. I know the conditions were poor enough against the Johnnies but my impressions that day was they'll need to be better conditioned for the season. Shows you the gulf between the top 5/6 teams to the div 2 teams

The other night Sarsfields were very sharp and full of running, was a very good performance and the goals were well taken. You've some players to come on to that team and it will make it a stronger team, intermediate should be the target along with a push for promotion, but only if you have all the lads fit and available. Did a few of your games last season and I've yet (till championship) seen your full hand, and your troubled Tir na Og for a good period in that game.

Hopefully everyone buys into what the management want, they seem to be going in the right direction
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on February 25, 2022, 11:15:51 AM
MR2 thoughts on the game on Tuesday night?

what was that game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 12:11:44 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on February 25, 2022, 11:15:51 AM
MR2 thoughts on the game on Tuesday night?

what was that game?

Just a challenge game, was my third in 4 days!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2022, 12:15:30 PM
You short of money  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2022, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 25, 2022, 12:15:30 PM
You short of money  ;D

With the rise in fuel prices I'm getting no where near enough  ;D

Anyone doing this for the money is getting seriously short changed lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2022, 12:22:38 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 25, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on February 25, 2022, 12:22:46 PM
Just seeing there (saffran Gaelic) that L Bradley is over Ballymena with am I right in saying Jason Quinn from Cookstown with him,FS there won't be much spotting out him this year(like he done on P Galvin)he'll get his gub filled in around Belfast if he starts that shite

Yellow + Red cards are in for mentors now, he might see some of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 25, 2022, 08:41:07 PM
U20 game tomorrow moved to Ballykinlar if anyone heading down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2022, 10:33:04 PM
Thanks Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2022, 08:06:11 AM
Huge game for us tonight. Tonight we will really see where we are. The panellists I have been talking to all saying great things about the set up, the quality of the coaching etc, and it's clear we are on an upward projectory. Two points tonight would set us up for a grandstand finish. A point to take up the road would still be a great result and guarantee safety.

You'de expect management to take in the Longford game tomorrow as they are next up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2022, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2022, 08:06:11 AM
Huge game for us tonight. Tonight we will really see where we are. The panellists I have been talking to all saying great things about the set up, the quality of the coaching etc, and it's clear we are on an upward projectory. Two points tonight would set us up for a grandstand finish. A point to take up the road would still be a great result and guarantee safety.

You'de expect management to take in the Longford game tomorrow as they are next up.

With the games generally all available to watch you'd watch it on telly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 26, 2022, 07:42:49 PM
All over in Portlaoise.....
All square,1-08 apiece....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2022, 07:43:34 PM
Is that Antrim safe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2022, 09:46:11 PM
How did the Antrim lads play in that college game? Seems they were unlucky in the end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 26, 2022, 11:25:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2022, 09:46:11 PM
How did the Antrim lads play in that college game? Seems they were unlucky in the end

Very unlucky, a couple of naive errors at the very end gifted 3 pts, mgt will be kicking themselves. Tom, Benen and Conchuir acquitted themselves very well. Cargin have some serious talent coming through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 26, 2022, 11:55:22 PM
Antrim are really improving and growing in confidence. If things keep going the way they are, we could end up playing the mighty Dubs next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2022, 12:01:06 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 26, 2022, 11:55:22 PM
Antrim are really improving and growing in confidence. If things keep going the way they are, we could end up playing the mighty Dubs next year.

Or Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 27, 2022, 12:38:58 AM
What I'm hearing about the Antrim set up at the minute is, it doesn't matter who they play they are out to win. Such a refreshing situation, fair play Enda, Steve, Sean and Co. Also fair play to fans who travelled down tonight, no doubt bannside was keeping the noise up for the boys!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2022, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on February 27, 2022, 12:38:58 AM
What I'm hearing about the Antrim set up at the minute is, it doesn't matter who they play they are out to win. Such a refreshing situation, fair play Enda, Steve, Sean and Co. Also fair play to fans who travelled down tonight, no doubt bannside was keeping the noise up for the boys!!

That's a very strange comment? Has that been a problem in the past?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 27, 2022, 09:16:31 AM
I refuse to get wound up by you MR2 so no comment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2022, 09:18:48 AM
Lol RC, there wasnt too many down but those who did made themselves heard. Sean Kelly was sitting behind me heading up the cheerleaders. I thought he was supposed to be neutral now he is a big shot up at Ulster lol.

Bumped into an old friend Sean O Reilly. Some character he is. Left Ballymena to live in Dublin 40 years ago and rarely misses an Antrim game. Sean was first secretary of All Saints at 17 years of age, but moved to Dublin 2 years later.

Travelled with James McCorley who rarely misses a game either, a great judge of the game, James has coached many of the best players in Cargin over the years. He talked football whole way down and up, man never came up for air once!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2022, 09:39:00 AM
On the football, boy that was a point hard earned. The referre did his very best to equal the worst ever refereeing performance of all time against Antrim (reference Leitrim v Antrim Carrick on Shannon Referee B Judge March 2019) and that's some achievement.

Wrongly black carded Ricky, sent Mc Ginley to the line for nothing, allowed their keeper to pinch 6 yards for the point that out them in the lead (it went over the bar by inches) and brought ball forward 4 times into scoring positions to keep Laois in the match. Players must take some responsibility for this tbf, but it didn't look like dissent - if you even shook your head in disagreement the ball was already on the move.

So that part of it was totally frustrating. It was one of those games I dreaded the long drive home, a one point loss and a busload of what ifs to ponder.

Then up stepped the magician Ryan Murray to somehow manage to squeeze the ball over the bar. Twitter dosent do justice to the score, huge wind blowing all over the pitch, heavy drizzle in the eye, that was odds against. Ryan did the business and secured the point we thoroughly deserved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2022, 09:49:33 AM
Some fantastic individual performances, the shortlist for standout includes Michael Mc Cann who was back to his imperious best, Kevin Small never stopped working, Conor Murray made one or two mistakes but overall a huge contribution, Ryan who rarely lets us down and a hugely impressive display throughout from Patrick Mc Aleer who just about gets my nod.

Plenty of others who could join that list for sheer effort alone.

The point came at a cost, we picked up a few injuries, Paddy Mc Brides in particular looked nasty and only in pitch a few minutes. Hopefully it's not too bad, Paddy is a valuable member of team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 27, 2022, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on February 27, 2022, 09:16:31 AM
I refuse to get wound up by you MR2 so no comment

Think a few may follow your lead RC....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2022, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 27, 2022, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on February 27, 2022, 09:16:31 AM
I refuse to get wound up by you MR2 so no comment

Think a few may follow your lead RC....

I'd have thought with any management set up the players went out to win, just found it an odd comment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2022, 03:59:19 PM
Westmeath and Longford both beaten today, this is really starting to open us for us now. We are home to both these counties so a real chance awaits. Things starting to get very exciting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2022, 07:43:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 27, 2022, 03:59:19 PM
Westmeath and Longford both beaten today, this is really starting to open us for us now. We are home to both these counties so a real chance awaits. Things starting to get very exciting.

It should and hopefully they'll go out to try and win rather going to try and  lose like they've been doing for years!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 27, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
My point, not that I have to justify myself to MR2 was then players believe they can beat any opposition, they are going in expectation rather than hope. This has not been the case for a number of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2022, 10:39:29 PM
So players in the recent past were told that we hope to beat these teams? You're weird, have you ever been involved in teams before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on February 28, 2022, 11:13:22 AM
You take McKenna cup defeat to Donegal in pg1. Previous teams would have accepted plaudits and pats on the back. This team and management were angry they didn't win. That would not have happened in the recent past. Now MR2 you appear to be snobbish in thinking I'm not allowed an opinion. I think you'll find many agree!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2022, 11:18:17 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on February 28, 2022, 11:13:22 AM
You take McKenna cup defeat to Donegal in pg1. Previous teams would have accepted plaudits and pats on the back. This team and management were angry they didn't win. That would not have happened in the recent past. Now MR2 you appear to be snobbish in thinking I'm not allowed an opinion. I think you'll find many agree!!

No, not at all, have your opinion, I just don't know why anyone would bother training all winter and giving up nights away from home just to be happy with a defeat and pats on the back. Seems strange. I don't know any team/player that is competitive and comes off the pitch happy they lost or not angry the didnt win, whatever way you want to put it.

Did previous teams/managers (bar Baker) going back to the 70's fall into that bracket?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 28, 2022, 11:47:21 AM
MR2 you seem to be missing the point. A team can train hard in hopes of success without necessarily expecting to achieve it. The difference is subtle but important.
Fair play to McGinley if he has instilled a winning mindset in this group of players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 28, 2022, 01:05:00 PM
I get your point RC, I can recall seeing some Antrim players posing for photos all smiles on the pitch with their families are being thrashed by Tyrone. Most of these players have been cleared out but RC is right the attitude now totally different than under the previous manger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 28, 2022, 01:15:17 PM
Does MR2 spend his time on the pitch arguing over nonsense like this, the point was clear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 28, 2022, 01:17:23 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 28, 2022, 01:05:00 PM
I get your point RC, I can recall seeing some Antrim players posing for photos all smiles on the pitch with their families are being thrashed by Tyrone. Most of these players have been cleared out but RC is right the attitude now totally different than under the previous manger.
On the same wavelength as yourself  EOC, talking to panellists regularly they are certainly on the right track

Current management do not suffer those who would be on board "just for the craic'.

Antrim are being led on a positive trail and they have learned to believe..
Long way such mindset linger.......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2022, 02:04:28 PM
You probably didnt see the Hurlers yesterday after that defeat, very difficult to take considering we had a great chance to at least draw level. they posed with kids for photos and signed hurls for ages after the dust had settled.

Kids look up to the seniors so while they probably feel crap after losing the correct thing to do is pose and sign the hurls, nothing wrong with that.

I get the point that RC has laid claim to I don't understand why players in the past 50 odd years would be bothered to just turn up for the jersey and limelight it would bring, and then blame previous managers because of it, there are players on the team now that have been on the panel for over 12 years are they part of that culture of ones RC is talking about?

We'd have to go back to Baker to find a team that enjoyed playing with skill and determination, but we also had better players, its all very easy to blame previous managers but you'd be going back a brave few years and a lot of managers. There has to be a fair bitta blame on that players also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on February 28, 2022, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2022, 02:04:28 PM
You probably didnt see the Hurlers yesterday after that defeat, very difficult to take considering we had a great chance to at least draw level. they posed with kids for photos and signed hurls for ages after the dust had settled.

Kids look up to the seniors so while they probably feel crap after losing the correct thing to do is pose and sign the hurls, nothing wrong with that.

I get the point that RC has laid claim to I don't understand why players in the past 50 odd years would be bothered to just turn up for the jersey and limelight it would bring, and then blame previous managers because of it, there are players on the team now that have been on the panel for over 12 years are they part of that culture of ones RC is talking about?

We'd have to go back to Baker to find a team that enjoyed playing with skill and determination, but we also had better players, its all very easy to blame previous managers but you'd be going back a brave few years and a lot of managers. There has to be a fair bitta blame on that players also.

The problem with Antrim football at the moment is that we seem to produce a solid team every 10 or so years, that last for 1-2 years.

In between times we are always rebuilding. The trick is how do we shorten the time period to produce the next team and how do we prolong their success.

We had a good team around the 2000's (White), then around 2007-2010 (Baker) and this group looks to have good potential 2023. And we're not talking about Div 1 std, we're talking about just being competitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 28, 2022, 05:40:12 PM
That is the trick KCSC. Solving it is the challenge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 01, 2022, 10:49:08 AM
Do primary school children play at half time during Antrim league games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 01, 2022, 11:00:36 AM
I went to it Ref. We were competitive for large parts as you say..Down got a good start and managed the game well after that, we never looked like getting a result. But fair play, we didn't throw in the towel and our best spell was the last ten minutes when we were chipping back at their lead.

I thought the subs made a positive contribution and had a bit of zip about their game that was missing in a number of starters. We continue to carry balls into tackles unlike the opposition and that's a regular feature across both games I've seen so far. Won't work at this level.

I'm not sure there is a couple of superstars that are going to hit the seniors in the next year or two and make a difference. But there are three or four who wouldn't be out of place given natural progression.

There isn't enough of a threat upfront either from what I've seen.  Maybe the team needs jigged about a bit, a couple of subs caught the eye towards the end during our best spell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 01, 2022, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 01, 2022, 10:49:08 AM
Do primary school children play at half time during Antrim league games?

Yes i have been to both hurling league games and they were, I assume the football is the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 01, 2022, 01:17:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2022, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 01, 2022, 10:49:08 AM
Do primary school children play at half time during Antrim league games?

Yes i have been to both hurling league games and they were, I assume the football is the same

Yep, same in football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 01, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?

It is a St.Galls Thirds team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 02, 2022, 08:20:46 AM
My own club would struggle to field a reserve team at times so fair play to St Galls if they have brought through the numbers to field a thirds team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 02, 2022, 08:34:15 AM
watched St Brigids last night in a challenge game, dont think they will be shaking up the league or championship this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2022, 08:46:19 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 02, 2022, 08:34:15 AM
watched St Brigids last night in a challenge game, dont think they will be shaking up the league or championship this year.

You can't go with challenge games to be fair as a reflection of how a team will go the rest of the season, I've seen plenty to know this over the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 02, 2022, 08:47:58 AM
Don't think you can judge anything from a challenge game at this time of year, so would discount that theory. I know my own club had a challenge game against Ballinderry last night and the personnel rotation and game time given all meant it was a fitness exercise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 02, 2022, 09:07:12 AM
I know what you mean fellas, but was interested to see if anyone of the st bs lads had kicked on from last year, last time i saw them was the championship against Aghagallon, seem far too depended on big Jack, playing him what their coach described as a "quarter back" role, didn't work, but i suppose this is the time of year to try these things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 01, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?

It is a St.Galls Thirds team
[/quote

Cargin did field a third team in the past and was an ideal opportunity for those who had no interest in training hard in pursuit of first team places.
They did actually win a couple of Junior titles until the door was closed.

Glad to see the way for a third team to enter ACL has opened again but participation in championship may be a question as is promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 02, 2022, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 01, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?

It is a St.Galls Thirds team
[/quote

Cargin did field a third team in the past and was an ideal opportunity for those who had no interest in training hard in pursuit of first team places.
They did actually win a couple of Junior titles until the door was closed.

Glad to see the way for a third team to enter ACL has opened again but participation in championship may be a question as is promotion.

Thirds team are now entered in Reserve cup/ shield ⁸
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 02, 2022, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: referee on March 01, 2022, 09:35:14 AM
Anyone at the U20 game,seem to be competitive against Down,goals seemed to kill them,were competitive against Tyrone for spells as well,anyone standing out to make to jump up to the senior in the next yr or 2

conceding goals, especially early on, seems to be a recurring theme in our county football and hurling games this year.

without so many early goals conceded we could be doing so much better.

it is funny that is seems to be happening in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 02, 2022, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 01, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?

It is a St.Galls Thirds team
[/quote

Cargin did field a third team in the past and was an ideal opportunity for those who had no interest in training hard in pursuit of first team places.
They did actually win a couple of Junior titles until the door was closed.

Glad to see the way for a third team to enter ACL has opened again but participation in championship may be a question as is promotion.

Thirds team are now entered in Reserve cup/ shield ⁸

If Galls 3rds draw Gall's seconds in reserve/cup or shield or indeed if they did win reserve cup could they proceed to Ulster.....?

Only practising Devis Advocate.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2022, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 02, 2022, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 01, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?

It is a St.Galls Thirds team
[/quote

Cargin did field a third team in the past and was an ideal opportunity for those who had no interest in training hard in pursuit of first team places.
They did actually win a couple of Junior titles until the door was closed.

Glad to see the way for a third team to enter ACL has opened again but participation in championship may be a question as is promotion.

Thirds team are now entered in Reserve cup/ shield ⁸

If Galls 3rds draw Gall's seconds in reserve/cup or shield or indeed if they did win reserve cup could they proceed to Ulster.....?

Only practising Devis Advocate.....

Is there a reserve championship in Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on March 02, 2022, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 02, 2022, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: delgany on March 01, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on March 01, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
Do St Galls have a 2nds team in Division 3 or is that a typo on the website?

It is a St.Galls Thirds team
[/quote

Cargin did field a third team in the past and was an ideal opportunity for those who had no interest in training hard in pursuit of first team places.
They did actually win a couple of Junior titles until the door was closed.

Glad to see the way for a third team to enter ACL has opened again but participation in championship may be a question as is promotion.

Thirds team are now entered in Reserve cup/ shield ⁸

If Galls 3rds draw Gall's seconds in reserve/cup or shield or indeed if they did win reserve cup could they proceed to Ulster.....?

Only practising Devis Advocate.....

Surely the 2nds play in the reserve cup and then the 3rds in the shield? handy enough sorted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 02, 2022, 12:30:44 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Naomh Bríd v Tir na nÓg- 3 point home win

Noamh Eoin v Casements - 2 point away win

Rossa v Naomh Eanna-draw

Lamh Dhearg v Carraigin-1 point away win

Kickhams Creggan v Achagh Eochaille-15 point home win

Aghagallon v Naomh Gall-3 point home win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 02, 2022, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 02, 2022, 12:30:44 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Naomh Bríd v Tir na nÓg- 3 point home win  Tir na nog

Noamh Eoin v Casements - 2 point away win  casements

Rossa v Naomh Eanna-draw   st enda

Lamh Dhearg v Carraigin-1 point away win  cargin

Kickhams Creggan v Achagh Eochaille-15 point home win  creggan

Aghagallon v Naomh Gall-3 point home win  aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 02, 2022, 12:57:17 PM
My prediction for this weekend:

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 02, 2022, 01:04:32 PM
Tough to predict results this time of year. Everyone not at full strength and pitches are woeful!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 02, 2022, 01:52:52 PM
I am not going to predict anything but I will say I will be astonished if Creggan beat Ahoghill by 15! Ahoghill are too sticky and clingy or is that just against us?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: referee on March 02, 2022, 01:37:31 PM
What are the rules about county Sen footballers/hurlers and U20 footballers playing on Sunday games

Unless rule has changed ......they don't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 02, 2022, 02:11:25 PM
Any word of the Championship draw taking place?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: referee on March 02, 2022, 02:13:58 PM
Cheers CB,cargin will be short a few players for Sunday's game, possibly as many as 10/11 from Sen/U20,glenravel have I think 4/5  from U20,,creggan probably 6/7 as well from Sen/20s, Johnnie's will be hit with probably 6/7 involving hurling and football

Sorry Ref, did not fully read your post.....don't think rule applies to under-20s.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 02, 2022, 03:29:34 PM
Genuine question here, who wants to be playing club football at this time of the year and with the conditions the pitches are going to be in over the next few weeks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 02, 2022, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2022, 03:29:34 PM
Genuine question here, who wants to be playing club football at this time of the year and with the conditions the pitches are going to be in over the next few weeks?

The soccer and rugby boys do it every week. But I wouldn't fancy it to be fair!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 02, 2022, 06:35:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: referee on March 02, 2022, 02:13:58 PM
Cheers CB,cargin will be short a few players for Sunday's game, possibly as many as 10/11 from Sen/U20,glenravel have I think 4/5  from U20,,creggan probably 6/7 as well from Sen/20s, Johnnie's will be hit with probably 6/7 involving hurling and football

Sorry Ref, did not fully read your post.....don't think rule applies to under-20s.....


Cargin missing 14 players Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 02, 2022, 10:46:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2022, 03:29:34 PM
Genuine question here, who wants to be playing club football at this time of the year and with the conditions the pitches are going to be in over the next few weeks?

U-10s etc have been at it for weeks which I can't get my head round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 03, 2022, 08:32:06 AM
See abit on the news about Gort na Mona looking council help for a second pitch, i thought they were selling their ground to a developer and starting on a new site? anyone know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 03, 2022, 08:03:57 PM
Another college title heading to South Derry

Rannafast Cup (Final)

St Pats Maghera 1-15
St MacCartans 1-07

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2022, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 03, 2022, 08:03:57 PM
Another college title heading to South Derry

Rannafast Cup (Final)

St Pats Maghera 1-15
St MacCartans 1-07

Hopefully they'll go the whole way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 03, 2022, 08:43:47 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 03, 2022, 08:32:06 AM
See abit on the news about Gort na Mona looking council help for a second pitch, i thought they were selling their ground to a developer and starting on a new site? anyone know?
What news wa that on? They have lots of girl teams now but don't think they are going so well with boys teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 03, 2022, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 03, 2022, 08:03:57 PM
Another college title heading to South Derry

Rannafast Cup (Final)

St Pats Maghera 1-15
St MacCartans 1-07
Nice for the two Moneyglass lads, I hear a young McCormick had a great game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 03, 2022, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 03, 2022, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 03, 2022, 08:03:57 PM
Another college title heading to South Derry

Rannafast Cup (Final)

St Pats Maghera 1-15
St MacCartans 1-07
Nice for the two Moneyglass lads, I hear a young McCormick had a great game

Great wee player
Captain of Antrim minors this incoming year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 03, 2022, 10:23:11 PM
McCormick lightning fast, great wee player with a big future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 04, 2022, 03:24:34 PM
A brother of Paddy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2022, 06:03:26 PM
Two gooduns alright. Club league season about to start. I expect Ahoghill to beat Creggan and cause a shock, just to go against the grain of previous predictions. I like to be a bit contrary every so often.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 04, 2022, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 04, 2022, 03:24:34 PM
A brother of Paddy?
Not a brother of Pat......
His dad is Darren who was also a fine footballer....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2022, 05:52:51 PM
Another two results in our division today that are in our favour. Longford home, Louth away and Westmeath home still to go. All winnable, promotion is in our own hands now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 05, 2022, 07:31:11 PM
Minors took a fair beating off Armagh today.  If we keep producing weak minor teams, there's no pipeline. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on March 05, 2022, 08:36:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 05, 2022, 05:52:51 PM
Another two results in our division today that are in our favour. Longford home, Louth away and Westmeath home still to go. All winnable, promotion is in our own hands now.

and not too much travelling for supporters.

When were Antrim last in Div 2? Over the years I recall very few league games between Antrim and Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2022, 10:57:22 PM
Antrim have won 9 Ulster championship titles, Armagh 14 . If look at history then Armagh are better, but Antrim will improve I hope, at this rate Armagh should win an All Ireland soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 06, 2022, 01:01:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 05, 2022, 08:36:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 05, 2022, 05:52:51 PM
Another two results in our division today that are in our favour. Longford home, Louth away and Westmeath home still to go. All winnable, promotion is in our own hands now.

and not too much travelling for supporters.

When were Antrim last in Div 2? Over the years I recall very few league games between Antrim and Armagh.

Could be antrim and Dublin
Something which would've been unthinkable couple of years back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 06, 2022, 03:28:32 PM
Good win to start the league for us today. Both teams very under strength and a lot of silly mistakes and handling errors by both teams. A few of our younger players making debuts did very well today and will hopefully keep pushing on and putting the pressure on the established players. Good to start with 2 points!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 06:34:32 PM
Good win for us too. Wouldn't read in to it though Johnnies severely under strength. Not sure about the referee though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2022, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 06:34:32 PM
Good win for us too. Wouldn't read in to it though Johnnies severely under strength. Not sure about the referee though.

You're not sure about much though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 06:44:01 PM
Irony of the highest order :) 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2022, 06:50:12 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 06:44:01 PM
Irony of the highest order :) 8)

It's people like you that we have ref's doing two games in one day...

But sure you carry on talking shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 06:54:27 PM
Was actually having a laugh MR2, sensisitive! Thought you were less bad today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2022, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 06:54:27 PM
Was actually having a laugh MR2, sensisitive! Thought you were less bad today.

Don't give up your day job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 06, 2022, 07:50:49 PM
Ref in the LD Cargin game decided to show up at 2.07 glad he made an appearance , good game between a very much under strength Cargin and more experienced LD, first game of year for cargin of any description so good enough display, both will be near enough at the business end of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 06, 2022, 08:11:12 PM
The great weather today almost made me forget how early in the season it is, all results went as expected for me, we'd a good draw in prob the toughest away game you get really, ports off to a flying start as I predicted Bannside. Creggan dealing with Ahoghill easily as usual. Great to be out watching games again I must say, every team missing players but I think players themselves would rather be playing league games than friendlies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 08:21:05 PM
Agree that there were no real shocks today, in fact there didn't appear to be any in any of the leagues. Expected Lamhs to beat Cargin given who was out. Also though Tir na nog would have been St Brigids.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 06, 2022, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 08:21:05 PM
Agree that there were no real shocks today, in fact there didn't appear to be any in any of the leagues. Expected Lamhs to beat Cargin given who was out. Also though Tir na nog would have been St Brigids.

No trial shocks?
In division 2, maybe not massive shocks but davits drawing with St Paul's and Rasharkin beating glenravel ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 09:59:28 PM
Sharkin winning in sharkin doesn't surprise me, it is like galatasary away! Davitts yes that was a bit of a surprise but St Paul's capable of anything. Div 2 will be interesting this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 06, 2022, 10:02:55 PM
Hard to know how anyone is going yet. Everyone in division 1 are playing with half strength teams. Not exactly friendlies but certainly nothing like the intensity that the second half of the league and championship brings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 06, 2022, 11:19:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 06, 2022, 09:59:28 PM
Sharkin winning in sharkin doesn't surprise me, it is like galatasary away! Davitts yes that was a bit of a surprise but St Paul's capable of anything. Div 2 will be interesting this year.

You could a seen the flares in Gortgole
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 08:42:05 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 06, 2022, 07:50:49 PM
Ref in the LD Cargin game decided to show up at 2.07 glad he made an appearance , good game between a very much under strength Cargin and more experienced LD, first game of year for cargin of any description so good enough display, both will be near enough at the business end of things.

Didn't realize bit Pat wasn't on the county panel anymore, reading the report he got all but one of the scores, some talent.

A lot of shadow boxing going on, its going to be a long season, you wouldn't want to be peaking too early
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 08:42:05 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 06, 2022, 07:50:49 PM
Ref in the LD Cargin game decided to show up at 2.07 glad he made an appearance , good game between a very much under strength Cargin and more experienced LD, first game of year for cargin of any description so good enough display, both will be near enough at the business end of things.

Didn't realize bit Pat wasn't on the county panel anymore, reading the report he got all but one of the scores, some talent.

A lot of shadow boxing going on, its going to be a long season, you wouldn't want to be peaking too early

Is he off the county panel or just released to his club to get some game time that he hasnt really been getting with county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Is Declan Lynch not in the county panel? Shivers a good one so hopefully he is still about the county panel. A boy that age in particular needs games though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 10:10:25 AM
marty johnston played for creggan to. I think Enda has let the lads play for clubs who havent been getting big game time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 10:57:24 AM
Yeah lads not starting or playing a lot of minutes we're allowed to play for club. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 07, 2022, 11:22:56 AM
I hear Dracula was playing for one of the division 1 clubs at the weekend there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 11:34:43 AM
Is relegation back in, two up and two down? Still the same with 13 teams in division 1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 11:34:43 AM
Is relegation back in, two up and two down? Still the same with 13 teams in division 1?

i thought it was 2 down and 1 up? but not sure tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2022, 11:22:56 AM
I hear Dracula was playing for one of the division 1 clubs at the weekend there

?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 07, 2022, 11:59:05 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 11:34:43 AM
Is relegation back in, two up and two down? Still the same with 13 teams in division 1?

i thought it was 2 down and 1 up? but not sure tbh

Big pressure on from CCC to re structure leagues to make them all equal in numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 02, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: referee on March 02, 2022, 02:13:58 PM
Cheers CB,cargin will be short a few players for Sunday's game, possibly as many as 10/11 from Sen/U20,glenravel have I think 4/5  from U20,,creggan probably 6/7 as well from Sen/20s, Johnnie's will be hit with probably 6/7 involving hurling and football

Sorry Ref, did not fully read your post.....don't think rule applies to under-20s.....

This rule must have changed recently then on the county players, which is great, how can a fringe players get game time and improve as a player for the county team on just training?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 02:16:48 PM
Didn't know it was a rule, thought it was more just county managers with an ago not letting players play. Glad to see McGinley taking the sensible approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2022, 04:38:36 PM
Indeed. Manys a player has been known to fall between two stools. Not getting county or club game time and form or confidence ultimately suffers as a result. I just wonder what criteria Enda used for letting players off for club duty? It must be those not figuring in his immediate plans!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 07, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 02:16:48 PM
Didn't know it was a rule, thought it was more just county managers with an ago not letting players play. Glad to see McGinley taking the sensible approach.

Not a rule and has been the practise for the last couple of years that squad players not regular starters can play league games for their club....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 07, 2022, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2022, 11:22:56 AM
I hear Dracula was playing for one of the division 1 clubs at the weekend there

?????

A phantom biter doing the rounds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 05:24:00 PM
Watching suarez ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 07, 2022, 05:55:00 PM
Agree totally with squad players being allowed to kick ball for clubs, could be problematic when drawing line by how many mins played or not allows you to play club  leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 07:19:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 07, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on March 07, 2022, 02:16:48 PM
Didn't know it was a rule, thought it was more just county managers with an ago not letting players play. Glad to see McGinley taking the sensible approach.

Not a rule and has been the practise for the last couple of years that squad players not regular starters can play league games for their club....

Which is it? I thought and I'll quote

"Sorry Ref, did not fully read your post.....don't think rule applies to under-20s....."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2022, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2022, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 07, 2022, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2022, 11:22:56 AM
I hear Dracula was playing for one of the division 1 clubs at the weekend there

?????

A phantom biter doing the rounds

Sweep sweep depending on the club no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
full round of club u20 football matches at 3pm on Saturday and the county footballers playing at 2pm in corrigan, madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 08, 2022, 09:54:16 AM
Madness surely. Why couldn't club games throw in at 11am?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 08, 2022, 12:47:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 08, 2022, 09:54:16 AM
Madness surely. Why couldn't club games throw in at 11am?

I think our CCC has lost the plot...
A full list of minor league games on Sunday and our county minors have a game on Saturday...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 08, 2022, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
full round of club u20 football matches at 3pm on Saturday and the county footballers playing at 2pm in corrigan, madness
Don't agree lads, there are more players in the gaa than just these elite county senior players, same goes for the minor club games being on the day after county minor games, there's only 24 players lucky enough to be on a county panel, what about the rest who are the vast majority. Clubs can rest their county players if they want.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 08, 2022, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
full round of club u20 football matches at 3pm on Saturday and the county footballers playing at 2pm in corrigan, madness
Don't agree lads, there are more players in the gaa than just these elite county senior players, same goes for the minor club games being on the day after county minor games, there's only 24 players lucky enough to be on a county panel, what about the rest who are the vast majority. Clubs can rest their county players if they want.

I was more coming at from the point of wanting to watch and support our county senior footballers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2022, 02:55:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 08, 2022, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
full round of club u20 football matches at 3pm on Saturday and the county footballers playing at 2pm in corrigan, madness
Don't agree lads, there are more players in the gaa than just these elite county senior players, same goes for the minor club games being on the day after county minor games, there's only 24 players lucky enough to be on a county panel, what about the rest who are the vast majority. Clubs can rest their county players if they want.

100%... feel strange  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 08, 2022, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 08, 2022, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
full round of club u20 football matches at 3pm on Saturday and the county footballers playing at 2pm in corrigan, madness
Don't agree lads, there are more players in the gaa than just these elite county senior players, same goes for the minor club games being on the day after county minor games, there's only 24 players lucky enough to be on a county panel, what about the rest who are the vast majority. Clubs can rest their county players if they want.

I was more coming at from the point of wanting to watch and support our county senior footballers
That's fine if it suits and I see your point Saffs, I'm not on the CCC but they're trying to accommodate everyone. Its surely more important for youths of the u17/20 age to get to play games of football than watch games of football. This must be the only slot they could get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 09, 2022, 09:53:45 AM
So a helter shelter of activity to get on with football leagues so can we anticipate the same headlong rush in hurling activity......???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 09, 2022, 01:43:29 PM
A quick question for those in the know. There is 13 teams in Div 1 football. Full fixtures havent been released yet so am I right in thinking there will be 24 league games?! Or is it 12 each? Anyone know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 09, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: ck on March 09, 2022, 01:43:29 PM
A quick question for those in the know. There is 13 teams in Div 1 football. Full fixtures havent been released yet so am I right in thinking there will be 24 league games?! Or is it 12 each? Anyone know?

1 Full round , then spilt into top/  bottom 6 or 7.
Possibility of 4 relegated
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 09, 2022, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 09, 2022, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: ck on March 09, 2022, 01:43:29 PM
A quick question for those in the know. There is 13 teams in Div 1 football. Full fixtures havent been released yet so am I right in thinking there will be 24 league games?! Or is it 12 each? Anyone know?

1 Full round , then spilt into top/  bottom 6 or 7.
Possibility of 4 relegated

Ok so 12 games then a further 5 meaning 17 league games?
Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 09, 2022, 09:31:10 PM
does Div 1 not need to be 10 teams max? 13 looks like a bit of Div 1 and 2 ........?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 09, 2022, 09:31:10 PM
does Div 1 not need to be 10 teams max? 13 looks like a bit of Div 1 and 2 ........?

certainly too many teams in Div1, i wouild think thats a major factor with the trouble ccc have with fixtures and dates. A 10 team div1 would be perfect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 10, 2022, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 09, 2022, 09:31:10 PM
does Div 1 not need to be 10 teams max? 13 looks like a bit of Div 1 and 2 ........?

certainly too many teams in Div1, i wouild think thats a major factor with the trouble ccc have with fixtures and dates. A 10 team div1 would be perfect.

It's pretty incredible that the leagues have started and we don't know how many will go down and up, we don't have a finish date for the leagues and we don't even have all of the league fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 10, 2022, 10:59:36 AM
League fixtures are on antrim website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2022, 11:00:41 AM
Quote from: ck on March 10, 2022, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 09, 2022, 09:31:10 PM
does Div 1 not need to be 10 teams max? 13 looks like a bit of Div 1 and 2 ........?

certainly too many teams in Div1, i wouild think thats a major factor with the trouble ccc have with fixtures and dates. A 10 team div1 would be perfect.

It's pretty incredible that the leagues have started and we don't know how many will go down and up, we don't have a finish date for the leagues and we don't even have all of the league fixtures.

have you asked your club secretary?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 11:16:27 AM
Did St Johns backroom team walk?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 11:16:27 AM
Did St Johns backroom team walk?

They were still there yesterday as was talking to one of them??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 11:16:27 AM
Did St Johns backroom team walk?

They were still there yesterday as was talking to one of them??

Ahright, had heard this morning a couple left & a couple stayed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 12:19:18 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 11:16:27 AM
Did St Johns backroom team walk?

They were still there yesterday as was talking to one of them??

Ahright, had heard this morning a couple left & a couple stayed.

Could be, fair few involved in that group
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 06:02:15 PM
And what about Ulster council ruling that our home championship tie against Cavan cannot be played at an Antrim venue, despite our name coming out if the draw first!

The cheek of them, if it wasn't for their incredulous mismanagement of Casement Pk upgrade this problem would not exist!

Let's get the message out loud and clear....Corrigan Or Nowhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2022, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 06:02:15 PM
And what about Ulster council ruling that our home championship tie against Cavan cannot be played at an Antrim venue, despite our name coming out if the draw first!

The cheek of them, if it wasn't for their incredulous mismanagement of Casement Pk upgrade this problem would not exist!

Let's get the message out loud and clear....Corrigan Or Nowhere.

Bring it up to Owenbeg if it can't be played in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 10, 2022, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 06:02:15 PM
And what about Ulster council ruling that our home championship tie against Cavan cannot be played at an Antrim venue, despite our name coming out if the draw first!

The cheek of them, if it wasn't for their incredulous mismanagement of Casement Pk upgrade this problem would not exist!

Let's get the message out loud and clear....Corrigan Or Nowhere.
::)

Yeah Antrim board had nothing to do with the mismanagement of Casement  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on March 10, 2022, 07:23:33 PM
Owenbeg would be a good call MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2022, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 11:16:27 AM
Did St Johns backroom team walk?

Why would they walk?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
Why would Antrim go to Owenbeg. That's not a home venue. Ulster Council were complicit in this mess, the least you would expect would be support on an issue that involves an Antrim home venue. 3500 supporters can get into Corrigan, there won't be too many locked out I wouldn't think.

Why concede that major advantage? If you were on our panel or part of the management you would be seeing this completely differently?

Corrigan or Nowhere I still say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:08:21 PM
It was such a strong ruling then that a vote was taken at an Ulster Council meeting a few days ago. Please explain that then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:13:58 PM
Only three out of the 7 counties voted in our favour!

Assuming Antrim and Cavan cancelled each other out on the motion. So we needed one more county. I'm hearing that very little notice was given and that one county in particular said it support us in a recount because they got so little time to properly consider the proposal.

I wouldn't be taking this lightly at all. The very principle of sporting integrity is at stake. Ulster GAA worried about losing a few ££ at the gate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:16:47 PM
Look, here's a simple question. Would we have a better chance of beating Cavan at Corrigan, or at the Athletic Grounds. If the Answer is 1% of a better chance at Corrigan, then we need to do everything to insist the game is played there.

When are the two occasions we went elsewhere by the way?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:18:21 PM
And the next question is....how long has the Corrigan Park revamp been completed??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:19:25 PM
Aye right Duile. I'm anti GAA now. You can do better than that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:23:17 PM
Sorry if I missed the nuances. Corrigan only recently completed, therefore this is the first time we have got a ground with a covered stand fit for holding an event of this kind.

This is new territory. We need to set a precedent or we could be playing home cship games at neutral venues...forever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 10, 2022, 08:33:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:23:17 PM
Sorry if I missed the nuances. Corrigan only recently completed, therefore this is the first time we have got a ground with a covered stand fit for holding an event of this kind.

This is new territory. We need to set a precedent or we could be playing home cship games at neutral venues...forever.

The 2020 Ulster champions proposed a motion that the game be moved to another venue at a meeting of the Ulster Council on Wednesday night.

Only Antrim, Derry and Tyrone voted against the motion.

Poor form..... Was the motion sprung on the night

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 10, 2022, 08:36:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 08:13:58 PM
Only three out of the 7 counties voted in our favour!

Assuming Antrim and Cavan cancelled each other out on the motion. So we needed one more county. I'm hearing that very little notice was given and that one county in particular said it support us in a recount because they got so little time to properly consider the proposal.

I wouldn't be taking this lightly at all. The very principle of sporting integrity is at stake. Ulster GAA worried about losing a few ££ at the gate.

Your last line is the jist of it
Nothing more Nothing less
I hated the last 2 seasons as much as anyone but  the saving grace was the bigwigs didn't make the big dollars
now things are back to normal we'll probably suffer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on March 10, 2022, 09:14:00 PM
I tell you what, Antrim need to make a stand on this and refuse to field unless the home fixture is honoured. No ifs or buts, stand steadfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 10, 2022, 09:28:34 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on March 10, 2022, 09:14:00 PM
I tell you what, Antrim need to make a stand on this and refuse to field unless the home fixture is honoured. No ifs or buts, stand steadfast

100%
Then they'll realise a few pound is better than 0
Worked for tyrone
They knew that by saying they can't fulfill the kerry fixture it would NEVER be cancelled, just postponed. Too much money to be lost to be cancelled
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 10, 2022, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 10, 2022, 09:28:34 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on March 10, 2022, 09:14:00 PM
I tell you what, Antrim need to make a stand on this and refuse to field unless the home fixture is honoured. No ifs or buts, stand steadfast

100%
Then they'll realise a few pound is better than 0
Worked for tyrone
They knew that by saying they can't fulfill the kerry fixture it would NEVER be cancelled, just postponed. Too much money to be lost to be cancelled

Agree totally....we need to tell Ulster to go to fcuk...


Corrigan or not at all, and they will soon come to realise half a duck is better than no dinner....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on March 10, 2022, 09:49:23 PM
I thought the plan was to build a terrace on the other side of Corrigan this year bringing the capacity up to over 5k.Has this plan been shelved or put back?
Obviously playing at Corrigan is adventages for us but playing at Owenbeg would be our next best option if we are forced to play at another venue,it definitely shouldn't be a home game for Cavan.
I'm thinking at some stage the GAA is going till call someones bluff with these altimatives and the game will have to be conceded, although it would be very unfair if it was Antrim with the predicament we have found ourselves in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2022, 09:50:05 PM
This is a pain in the ass. This is one I genuinely think we can win and I haven't thought that on many Antrim ulster championship matches...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 09:53:33 PM
I think Flanker is on the money here. By all accounts Cavan sprung this proposal at short notice, obviously with their own canvassing in place behind the scenes. Short notice to potential objecting parties. This is cute hoorism at its best....Niall Tobin wasn't too far away.

Exactly ITG. No guarantee we will win this anywhere, but we have a much greater chance if it's played at Corrigan. It's a no brainer.

Corrigan or Nowhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 10, 2022, 10:34:56 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on March 10, 2022, 09:14:00 PM
I tell you what, Antrim need to make a stand on this and refuse to field unless the home fixture is honoured. No ifs or buts, stand steadfast

Completely agree. Forget about owenbeg and elsewhere. Make a stand. Casement is out of action, Corrigan is your home and you were drew to play at home regardless.

Bullsh*t move by Cavan, hope their stuffed in the rest of the games they play this year. Would he completely embarrassed to be a member of the Cavan panel, management or county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 10, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
Pretty pathetic from Cavan.  Lack of integrity.  The game should be all ticket at Corrigan and not that many people will be let down.  Then sort Casement out once and for all with a redrawn plan for an Athletic Grounds style home stadium with a good atmosphere.  And all the ego merchants who want their big trophy should stand back, it's unaffordable now never mind all the other problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 11:00:57 PM
Nothing to lose by withdrawing from Ulster championship if Cavan don't forfeit their sneakily ill gotten gain. I'd say proper Cavan Gaels arnt in support of this at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2022, 11:12:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 11:00:57 PM
Nothing to lose by withdrawing from Ulster championship if Cavan don't forfeit their sneakily ill gotten gain. I'd say proper Cavan Gaels arnt in support of this at all.

Surely there are other punishments that'll follow should they refuse to play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 10, 2022, 11:14:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 11:00:57 PM
Nothing to lose by withdrawing from Ulster championship if Cavan don't forfeit their sneakily ill gotten gain. I'd say proper Cavan Gaels arnt in support of this at all.

Adopt campaign strategy of Kildare GAA ...Newbridge or Nowhere, get it started...it shows Cavan must be wetting themselves about getting bate, though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2022, 11:42:09 PM
The precedent was set in Newbridge Delgany. We just need to show the same resilience. This is a ridiculous situation and CMC needs to be in the front row facing this thing down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 10, 2022, 11:47:51 PM
Totally right Bannside, strong leadership needed now, our County board are too quiet on this, should be shouting from the rafters



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 11, 2022, 12:05:57 AM
The CB needs to stand firm on this but questions have to be asked on what goes on at Ulster council.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on March 11, 2022, 06:14:27 AM
Where is our Director of Football!!! Surely he along with the CB should be all over the media on this.. or are they waiting until elections get closer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 09:24:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2022, 11:00:57 PM
Nothing to lose by withdrawing from Ulster championship if Cavan don't forfeit their sneakily ill gotten gain. I'd say proper Cavan Gaels arnt in support of this at all.


Totally agree Bannside, in fact a bit of a siege mentality could do us good in the run in to Div 3.
Pull out if not Corrigan, it will get rest of country (apart from those who voted with Cavan) behind us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2022, 09:28:59 AM
100% RC. Nothing to lose here. What grinds my gears is Ulster Council even facilitating Cavans request for a vote. This should have been kicked out long before it got to that stage. To think that Ulster Council are complicit in the reason we haven't a larger facility at present only serves to compound this matter.

If it's not going to be played at Casement CMC and Co board should seek approval of team management and panel to withdraw from this year's competition.

If there's no integrity in sport it becomes not worth doing.

Casement Or Nowhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2022, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 11, 2022, 06:14:27 AM
Where is our Director of Football!!! Surely he along with the CB should be all over the media on this.. or are they waiting until elections get closer?

Hopefully he's directing football matters rather than pitch arrangements which in the long run needs to be improved at all levels.

Let the county board and those that have been brought in lately (on to the committee) who have great skills within business to change matters

If not successful take Cavan to Owenbeg away as far as you can get from Cavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 09:35:44 AM
Take them til Rasharkin and get the flares out again Dreen. Kick them up that lane.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 10:34:03 AM
As someone from a staunch Antrim/Derry GAA family with a Cavan & Fermanagh grandparent either side of the tree, I can tell you we cover a hell of a lot of miles to watch a lot of football. Have done since I can remember. Would I be convinced Cavan would take up to even a thousand supporters to Belfast for the match had all this shite not kicked off? No!
Dig the heels in for sure, but watch and laugh at the paltry support Cavan take up the road to Owenbeg after all their crying should that be the outcome. Any comment from Ulster Council on this vote outcome yet? They really do get worse not better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 11, 2022, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 09:35:44 AM
Take them til Rasharkin and get the flares out again Dreen. Kick them up that lane.

Many a nan kicked up that lane and on to the dreen road!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 11, 2022, 10:50:52 AM
Antrim played Tyrone in the ulster championship 3 years ago in Armagh. The attendance was 5,000. I'd imagine this would attract even less if moved there. There is no justification for moving it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on March 11, 2022, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 10:34:03 AM
As someone from a staunch Antrim/Derry GAA family with a Cavan & Fermanagh grandparent either side of the tree, I can tell you we cover a hell of a lot of miles to watch a lot of football. Have done since I can remember. Would I be convinced Cavan would take up to even a thousand supporters to Belfast for the match had all this shite not kicked off? No!
Dig the heels in for sure, but watch and laugh at the paltry support Cavan take up the road to Owenbeg after all their crying should that be the outcome. Any comment from Ulster Council on this vote outcome yet? They really do get worse not better.

Someone so staunch should know that Cavan have decent support and would bring a lot more than 1K to a Ulster championship game. For the record in my opinion the game should be played in Corrigan.

Bring it to Owenbeg surely it is closer to Cavan than Corrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 11:09:30 AM
Have to say some of the derogrotary comments on here about Cavan GAA is quite sad lads. The first I heard of this vote was this morning. I am not happy about it and I dont like sly shit like this to get a upper hand. However, Corrigan park at 5k is not a suitable venue for big championship game and I can tell you we will bring more than 1k supporters to any venue anywhere in the province. I think its a bit of a laugh to hear one lad from a Derry/Antrim background sneering at Cavan support - are you joking?

I would say the game should go ahead in Corrigan park - no excuses and I will be very disappointed if we couldn't beat you there or anywhere. But ye should stand your ground for sure.

However, some advice for ye. Your county has a population of 615k. Even if we were to say half of those have no interest in GAA then you are still by far the biggest county in population terms in Ulster. So really take a look at yourselves lads, ye have no county ground and a team that moves indefinitely between Div3 to Div4. Stop throwing shite at small counties like Cavan with a fraction of your population.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 11, 2022, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 11:09:30 AM
Have to say some of the derogrotary comments on here about Cavan GAA is quite sad lads. The first I heard of this vote was this morning. I am not happy about it and I dont like sly shit like this to get a upper hand. However, Corrigan park at 5k is not a suitable venue for big championship game and I can tell you we will bring more than 1k supporters to any venue anywhere in the province. I think its a bit of a laugh to hear one lad from a Derry/Antrim background sneering at Cavan support - are you joking?

I would say the game should go ahead in Corrigan park - no excuses and I will be very disappointed if we couldn't beat you there or anywhere. But ye should stand your ground for sure.

However, some advice for ye. Your county has a population of 615k. Even if we were to say half of those have no interest in GAA then you are still by far the biggest county in population terms in Ulster. So really take a look at yourselves lads, ye have no county ground and a team that moves indefinitely between Div3 to Div4. Stop throwing shite at small counties like Cavan with a fraction of your population.

Ye?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 11, 2022, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 11:09:30 AM
Have to say some of the derogrotary comments on here about Cavan GAA is quite sad lads. The first I heard of this vote was this morning. I am not happy about it and I dont like sly shit like this to get a upper hand. However, Corrigan park at 5k is not a suitable venue for big championship game and I can tell you we will bring more than 1k supporters to any venue anywhere in the province. I think its a bit of a laugh to hear one lad from a Derry/Antrim background sneering at Cavan support - are you joking?

I would say the game should go ahead in Corrigan park - no excuses and I will be very disappointed if we couldn't beat you there or anywhere. But ye should stand your ground for sure.

However, some advice for ye. Your county has a population of 615k. Even if we were to say half of those have no interest in GAA then you are still by far the biggest county in population terms in Ulster. So really take a look at yourselves lads, ye have no county ground and a team that moves indefinitely between Div3 to Div4. Stop throwing shite at small counties like Cavan with a fraction of your population.

Wow that's a post and a half.

I think any derogatory comments toward Cavan GAA on here are more than merited and in fact its been quite mild thus far.

Cheek of them thinking they can dictate to Antrim where we should play our games and as for Ulster Council don't get me started on those shysters. Unreal decision, shows their backing for the second city and for the Gaelfast project in real terms. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 11, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 11:09:30 AM
Have to say some of the derogrotary comments on here about Cavan GAA is quite sad lads. The first I heard of this vote was this morning. I am not happy about it and I dont like sly shit like this to get a upper hand. However, Corrigan park at 5k is not a suitable venue for big championship game and I can tell you we will bring more than 1k supporters to any venue anywhere in the province. I think its a bit of a laugh to hear one lad from a Derry/Antrim background sneering at Cavan support - are you joking?

I would say the game should go ahead in Corrigan park - no excuses and I will be very disappointed if we couldn't beat you there or anywhere. But ye should stand your ground for sure.

However, some advice for ye. Your county has a population of 615k. Even if we were to say half of those have no interest in GAA then you are still by far the biggest county in population terms in Ulster. So really take a look at yourselves lads, ye have no county ground and a team that moves indefinitely between Div3 to Div4. Stop throwing shite at small counties like Cavan with a fraction of your population.

Itchy who tabled the motion.....

Quote Itchy
"I am not happy about it and I dont like sly shit like this to get a upper hand"

Answer

The 2020 Ulster champions proposed a motion that the game be moved to another venue at a meeting of the Ulster Council on Wednesday night.

Itchy

Stop throwing shite

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 11, 2022, 12:30:38 PM
Itchy, your County Board representatives pulled a stroke at the Ulster Council meeting.  It's juvenile at best.  No one here is casting dispersions at the average 5/8th in Cavan plodding away at the GAA like the rest of us, but your County Board trying to switch a home game is oul nonsense from another time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 11, 2022, 12:30:38 PM
Itchy, your County Board representatives pulled a stroke at the Ulster Council meeting.  It's juvenile at best.  No one here is casting dispersions at the average 5/8th in Cavan plodding away at the GAA like the rest of us, but your County Board trying to switch a home game is oul nonsense from another time.

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2022, 12:39:27 PM
Clubs and county boards have been pulling strokes for years to gain advantages for their teams, its not surprising they have done this to be fair, if you don't ask you don't get. Maybe Antrim are too nice and in the past just followed the flow, but this is underhand, and could backfire. Hopefully when the dust settles it'll be played in Corrigan, but because of Casement we have had to move in the past.

You'd have hoped that after Corrigan's facelift and use as our county ground during the leagues that it would have met the standards that the Ulster council required. If not it should have been brought up at the time and whatever arrangements needed could have been in place to facilitate it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.

Down and Armagh possibly hoping for a gate if a neutral venue is the final outcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on March 11, 2022, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.

Not surprised at Down delegates TBH, spineless wonders toeing the party line for a nice Ulster GAA coat or the likes.

Antrim should hold their ground, the poor publicity the Ulster GAA will take for this decision won't be long in seeing it reversed!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on March 11, 2022, 01:06:05 PM
As a blow-in to Antrim, I think it should be played in Corrigan Park. Money isn't everything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on March 11, 2022, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 10:34:03 AM
As someone from a staunch Antrim/Derry GAA family with a Cavan & Fermanagh grandparent either side of the tree, I can tell you we cover a hell of a lot of miles to watch a lot of football. Have done since I can remember. Would I be convinced Cavan would take up to even a thousand supporters to Belfast for the match had all this shite not kicked off? No!
Dig the heels in for sure, but watch and laugh at the paltry support Cavan take up the road to Owenbeg after all their crying should that be the outcome. Any comment from Ulster Council on this vote outcome yet? They really do get worse not better.

Someone so staunch should know that Cavan have decent support and would bring a lot more than 1K to a Ulster championship game. For the record in my opinion the game should be played in Corrigan.

Bring it to Owenbeg surely it is closer to Cavan than Corrigan.

I look forward to seeing you all in corrigan  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 11:09:30 AM
Have to say some of the derogrotary comments on here about Cavan GAA is quite sad lads. The first I heard of this vote was this morning. I am not happy about it and I dont like sly shit like this to get a upper hand. However, Corrigan park at 5k is not a suitable venue for big championship game and I can tell you we will bring more than 1k supporters to any venue anywhere in the province. I think its a bit of a laugh to hear one lad from a Derry/Antrim background sneering at Cavan support - are you joking?

I would say the game should go ahead in Corrigan park - no excuses and I will be very disappointed if we couldn't beat you there or anywhere. But ye should stand your ground for sure.

However, some advice for ye. Your county has a population of 615k. Even if we were to say half of those have no interest in GAA then you are still by far the biggest county in population terms in Ulster. So really take a look at yourselves lads, ye have no county ground and a team that moves indefinitely between Div3 to Div4. Stop throwing shite at small counties like Cavan with a fraction of your population.

Catch yourself on Itchy. You have 6 or 7 more football clubs in Cavan than Antrim. Dont play the size card. Completely different parts of the country, completely different challenges, completely different outlook (seemingly). Your County board have let you down a bag full. I'd be embarrassed to be honest.
I dont see any ruling or motion passed that 5k is too small to host a provincial championship match. Suck it up and get on with it. Pathetic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on March 11, 2022, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.

Down and Armagh possibly hoping for a gate if a neutral venue is the final outcome.

Or they may just believe that the GAA should not turn away paying customers, which is a reasonable view. In their heyday 20 years ago Armagh played many games in Clones, they did not try to shoehorn the crowd into Silverbridge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 11, 2022, 01:52:08 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2022, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.

Down and Armagh possibly hoping for a gate if a neutral venue is the final outcome.

Or they may just believe that the GAA should not turn away paying customers, which is a reasonable view. In their heyday 20 years ago Armagh played many games in Clones, they did not try to shoehorn the crowd into Silverbridge.

I call bullsh*t - Cavan trying to play petty tricks and Armagh weighed in behind them to the detriment of fellow gaels in Antrim.

Dont try and dress it up any other way to save face in Armagh. Corrigan more than capable of hosting the match and any expected attendance level for it.

Ulster Council Cabal at their shady under hand deals again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2022, 02:08:22 PM
Never thought i'd hear people getting behind #Corriganornowhere lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: armaghniac on March 11, 2022, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2022, 01:52:08 PM
Dont try and dress it up any other way to save face in Armagh. Corrigan more than capable of hosting the match and any expected attendance level for it.

If it is big enough for the crowd then fine. However, I have always said that the GAA should not turn away people, the possibility of substantial attendance at person in games is one of its strengths. However, i suppose the point is that in Antrim there is no substantial attendance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on March 11, 2022, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2022, 01:52:08 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2022, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.

Down and Armagh possibly hoping for a gate if a neutral venue is the final outcome.

Or they may just believe that the GAA should not turn away paying customers, which is a reasonable view. In their heyday 20 years ago Armagh played many games in Clones, they did not try to shoehorn the crowd into Silverbridge.

I call bullsh*t - Cavan trying to play petty tricks and Armagh weighed in behind them to the detriment of fellow gaels in Antrim.

Dont try and dress it up any other way to save face in Armagh. Corrigan more than capable of hosting the match and any expected attendance level for it.

Ulster Council Cabal at their shady under hand deals again.

How many supporters do you think Antrim would bring to this game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 11, 2022, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2022, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
Not surprised at the Cavan/Donegal/Monaghan/Fermanagh reps all voting against us at they usually stick together, but really surprised by Down and Armagh, let us down a bagful . Fair play to the Tyrone and Derry reps not being railroaded.
All very quiet from our own CB, would have thought they would have been all over the Irish News by this stage, see McGinley talking about it in the paper.

Down and Armagh possibly hoping for a gate if a neutral venue is the final outcome.

Or they may just believe that the GAA should not turn away paying customers, which is a reasonable view. In their heyday 20 years ago Armagh played many games in Clones, they did not try to shoehorn the crowd into Silverbridge.
If people are turned away that's Ulster GAAs fault for making such a mess of Casement. Corrigan is  the Antrim county ground currently, who can attend and who cant attend is irrelevant really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2022, 02:46:14 PM
I was at an Ulster championship game at Casement many years ago. Cavan V Down I think, the place was packed to the rafters as they say, weather was great also. Obviously a great attendance by both sets of supporters but what I did notice also was a massive attendance by the locals in Antrim, not just Belfast GAA men but even the SW came down  ;).. Its a shame we haven't that place now

There is no doubting that Antrim have not been the best supported and we won't hit the heights of Clones when we were in the final but we have a county ground at the minute and we should be allowed to play there unless it was stipulated at the start that Corrigan couldn't and won't be allowed to host the Ulster Championship, was this the case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: pbat on March 11, 2022, 02:48:20 PM
Very disappointed in the Armagh county board on this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 11, 2022, 03:30:09 PM
Is there a specific ruling saying Antrim must supply a venue fit to hold 5000 people? 

If not then it is completely up to Antrim whether they want play in corrigan, the bear pit or a council ground like cherryvale, as long as the 5 or 2005 people attending are safe and have tickets.

Anything else just sounds like moneygrabbing by ulster gaa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 11, 2022, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.
It's exactly like Newbridge or nowhere, just scaled down a bit, but exactly the same principle.  Kildare were drawn at home to Mayo but in theory the ground wasn't big enough. What's the difference?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.

There's thousands upon thousands who would like all Ireland final tickets too. Croker doesn't hold 200,000 unfortunately.
Get online when the tickets are out or contact your club committee once they're released. I'm sure you'll be grand. As for Cavan supporters, tough shi*%, It's an Antrim home fixture as per luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.

3700 IS THE CAPACITY OF CORRIGAN SET BT BELFAST CITY COUNCIL. THERE IS NO MINIMUM CAPACITY FOR A COUNTY GROUND, CORRIGAN TICKS ALL THE REQUIRED BOXES NOW THE UPGRADES HAVE BEEN MADE.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.

There's thousands upon thousands who would like all Ireland final tickets too. Croker doesn't hold 200,000 unfortunately.
Get online when the tickets are out or contact your club committee once they're released. I'm sure you'll be grand. As for Cavan supporters, tough shi*%, It's an Antrim home fixture as per luck of the draw.

You cannot seriously be trying to compare a tiny ground capacity with an All Ireland final, are you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.

3700 IS THE CAPACITY OF CORRIGAN SET BT BELFAST CITY COUNCIL. THERE IS NO MINIMUM CAPACITY FOR A COUNTY GROUND, CORRIGAN TICKS ALL THE REQUIRED BOXES NOW THE UPGRADES HAVE BEEN MADE.

Why are you shouting? Where you getting that figure from? All figures I've seen are 2600, but happy to be proven wrong if that is not the case. That would be better alright. Can the ground sufficiently hold that, with security and such? It's sometimes not just what the ground holds, but parking, emergency evacuation etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 11, 2022, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.
It's exactly like Newbridge or nowhere, just scaled down a bit, but exactly the same principle.  Kildare were drawn at home to Mayo but in theory the ground wasn't big enough. What's the difference?

Not when it's a third the size of an already small ground. You'd be hard pushed to fit in the basic ticket needs here, never mind the expectation beyond that. It's just not big enough. Cavan have other county grounds, but have given up home advantage in the past when Breffni wasn't available, as simply put they understand capacity needs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2022, 04:11:54 PM
Itchy, our ire is directed at the root of the problem, the idea not to have it played at an Antrim venue was instigated by officials from your county, so take this u with them.
I'm on record here as saying proper Cavan Gaels won't even support this. As for the advice to get our house in order, well hopefully we will be in division two in a month. That's a start and on the grounds front, you can co blame Ulster Council for some inept management that has quite ironically led to this situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 11, 2022, 04:11:54 PM
Itchy, our ire is directed at the root of the problem, the idea not to have it played at an Antrim venue was instigated by officials from your county, so take this u with them.
I'm on record here as saying proper Cavan Gaels won't even support this. As for the advice to get our house in order, well hopefully we will be in division two in a month. That's a start and on the grounds front, you can co blame Ulster Council for some inept management that has quite ironically led to this situation.

Well said BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 05:01:19 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 03:01:01 PM
Lads I really feel for you here. Some sly strokes being pulled here. This should have been above board, time given to boards to think it over, and so on. But fellas, if we're being honest, Corrigan isn't big enough. What is the capacity that they'll allow for a Championship match (that is signed off for safety etc.)? I see a figure of 2600 being thrown around. That simply is not enough for Ulster games. Cavan have a very good support, and will travel for an Ulster Championship match. How can you possibly even accommodate even a fraction of the supporters who will want to go? I've been to every game this year, and I'd be concerned I'd not get a ticket once you remove the usual honchos, home fans, players families etc. 2600 isn't enough, lets be realistic here. This isn't like Newbridge where they can take something like 8000. It's looking a grand ground with the work done, but simply too small.

3700 IS THE CAPACITY OF CORRIGAN SET BT BELFAST CITY COUNCIL. THERE IS NO MINIMUM CAPACITY FOR A COUNTY GROUND, CORRIGAN TICKS ALL THE REQUIRED BOXES NOW THE UPGRADES HAVE BEEN MADE.

Why are you shouting? Where you getting that figure from? All figures I've seen are 2600, but happy to be proven wrong if that is not the case. That would be better alright. Can the ground sufficiently hold that, with security and such? It's sometimes not just what the ground holds, but parking, emergency evacuation etc.

3700 IS THE OFFICIAL GROUND CAPACITY GIVEN TO CORRIGAN BY BCCC, THE GROUND COULD HOLD FAR MORE AND DID SO IN DAYS GONE BY BUT THAT IS THE FIGURE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH NOWADAYS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE H&S FACTORS. AN OFFICIAL FROM BCC ATTENDS ALL THE COUNTY GAMES AT CORRIGAN TO MAKE SURE PROCEDURES ARE FOLLOWED CORRECTLY AND BIG MARTIN RUNS THE EVENTS TEAM THEIR LIKE CLOCKWORK. FINE GROUND TO WATCH A GAME IN.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 05:04:51 PM
Well shouted Saffsof82
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 06:26:00 PM
This only became an issue for the famously parsimonious Cavan folk when the price of diesel rocketed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 11, 2022, 06:28:24 PM
What other evacuation points are there out of Corrigan, bar the main entrance ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 11, 2022, 06:46:21 PM
I'm somewhat bemused by this discussion.

We have a terrible habit of deflecting blame away from ourselves in Antrim. It's everyone else's fault.
Our county ground was closed by our county board.
Our county ground was given away by our county board.
Our club delegates were as weak as pish in holding them accountable.

Those chicken are not coming home to roost now. They're home and roosting nigh on 10 years. We've been made to concede home venue before and I don't remember such discussion.

Is it because we are dreaming that Corrigan is now a viable venue?

We have allowed ourselves to be shoehorned into a 2-bit "stadium" as a replacement for what we had. While it has been developed to be a very good club ground for St John's, we are kidding ourselves that it is even remotely near the standard of a county ground.
Not only are we accepting that Corrigan is now our home ground, we are begging the Ulster Council to accept it as our home ground.

Absolutely pathetic stuff.

That an honest assessment and I think the first thing you have to do in life is to acknowledge failings and move on. Antrim could and should be a super power of the GAA. Play the game in Corrigan if you must (I really don't care where it is) but take a look in the mirror too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2022, 07:15:01 PM
So what do you suppose we do Duine? Wait another ten years before we get a home tie in the championship?

Cavan are very wary of us and we have a reasonable chance of turning them over this time. Taking this to a neutral venue is like handing them a two or three point advantage before the game even starts. Now why on earth would we want to do that? No football manager in their right mind would concede an inch in a championship, not even 1% before the ball is thrown in. So why should we simply roll over in this regard?

I agree with some of your well made points, but don't forget Ulster Council are culpable in the situation we find ourselves in. That's the sheer irony of this situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 11, 2022, 06:28:24 PM
What other evacuation points are there out of Corrigan, bar the main entrance ?

Come along to the Antrim v Longford game tomorrow at 2pm kidder and I'm sure big Martin will be delighted to show you the match day plan and you and the official from Belfast City Council can shoot the breeze about trip hazards and exits.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 11, 2022, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 11, 2022, 06:28:24 PM
What other evacuation points are there out of Corrigan, bar the main entrance ?

Come along to the Antrim v Longford game tomorrow at 2pm kidder and I'm sure big Martin will be delighted to show you the match day plan and you and the official from Belfast City Council can shoot the breeze about trip hazards and exits.

I have been in Corrigan loads of times in the last year or two, do you not know ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 07:30:21 PM
Is there any pubs at the grounds. Lack of pubs might be the real cause of the objection.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 07:53:38 PM
10 days to the JR of casement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 11, 2022, 09:54:37 PM
No we don't. But we need them to know that this is the result of a mess they have contributed to, and until it's sorted out properly, Antrim are forced to playing their home championship matches at this venue. And the loss of revenue to GAA that is a consequence of an ineptitude that they are complicit in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 10:13:09 PM
Anyone seen the team for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
Vital that Enda and the boys don't let this championship debacle take focus off the league push. If we could get in to Div 2 they could play the championship match in Cork for all I care. League is priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 11, 2022, 10:36:20 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 10:13:09 PM
Anyone seen the team for tomorrow?

Saw the team and am sure there will be a couple of absentees from the start list as published....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 11, 2022, 10:36:20 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 10:13:09 PM
Anyone seen the team for tomorrow?

Saw the team and am sure there will be a couple of absentees from the start list as published....

Why's that CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 11, 2022, 11:56:06 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
Vital that Enda and the boys don't let this championship debacle take focus off the league push. If we could get in to Div 2 they could play the championship match in Cork for all I care. League is priority.

Still a possibility that you could get into div 4. Very difficult division, as us Derry folk know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on March 12, 2022, 07:10:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2022, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 11, 2022, 06:14:27 AM
Where is our Director of Football!!! Surely he along with the CB should be all over the media on this.. or are they waiting until elections get closer?

Hopefully he's directing football matters rather than pitch arrangements which in the long run needs to be improved at all levels.

Let the county board and those that have been brought in lately (on to the committee) who have great skills within business to change matters

If not successful take Cavan to Owenbeg away as far as you can get from Cavan

Have to disagree with you MR on this one, Director of Football in Antrim should cover all matters relating as such, from wee toddlers to "elite". Agree he should be directing football matters, however as we are all aware the process and the experience for the appointment was never shared, nor was the facts in relation to the role as in Voluntary or Paid ? Whats his Vision Plan in all matters of Football within the County, what is the Direction? I could go on, however as "Director of Football" you would think that being up front and centre fundamentally comes with the role?

Who are the ones brought in lately with great business skills?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 12, 2022, 08:27:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 11, 2022, 10:36:20 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 11, 2022, 10:13:09 PM
Anyone seen the team for tomorrow?

Saw the team and am sure there will be a couple of absentees from the start list as published....

Why's that CB?
At least two injuries within the team as 'announced....sorry to say....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2022, 08:40:05 AM
Huge game for us today. We should be taking two points from this on all recent lines of form. If we are sitting in 7 points tonight promotion is in our hands, and really on. Good luck to all....Come on Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
CB county snitch! Snitches get stitches back in the day!

Yes the director should have a view as should we all but don't be disagreeing with me then say what's his role? If you have no clue then how can you disagree?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 12, 2022, 10:35:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
CB county snitch! Snitches get stitches back in the day!

Yes the director should have a view as should we all but don't be disagreeing with me then say what's his role? If you have no clue then how can you disagree?
Yep time to throw away your little black book....full of Fairy Tales.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2022, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 12, 2022, 10:35:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
CB county snitch! Snitches get stitches back in the day!

Yes the director should have a view as should we all but don't be disagreeing with me then say what's his role? If you have no clue then how can you disagree?
Yep time to throw away your little black book....full of Fairy Tales.....

Nah, loads of games to look forward too this year  ;D

As for fairy tales I enjoy reading yours every week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 12, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
Vital that Enda and the boys don't let this championship debacle take focus off the league push. If we could get in to Div 2 they could play the championship match in Cork for all I care. League is priority.

I'm hoping this carryon galvanises Antrim and creates a siege mentality. Starting with 2 points today, a promotion push & into the 1st round of Ulster where you's come out on top vs Cavan.

Jeez I really do feel like an Antrim supporter now after that BS from Cavan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2022, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 12, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
Vital that Enda and the boys don't let this championship debacle take focus off the league push. If we could get in to Div 2 they could play the championship match in Cork for all I care. League is priority.

I'm hoping this carryon galvanises Antrim and creates a siege mentality. Starting with 2 points today, a promotion push & into the 1st round of Ulster where you's come out on top vs Cavan.

Jeez I really do feel like an Antrim supporter now after that BS from Cavan.

No room for any new supporters if game stays in Corrigan park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 12, 2022, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 12, 2022, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 12, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 11, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
Vital that Enda and the boys don't let this championship debacle take focus off the league push. If we could get in to Div 2 they could play the championship match in Cork for all I care. League is priority.

I'm hoping this carryon galvanises Antrim and creates a siege mentality. Starting with 2 points today, a promotion push & into the 1st round of Ulster where you's come out on top vs Cavan.

Jeez I really do feel like an Antrim supporter now after that BS from Cavan.

No room for any new supporters if game stays in Corrigan park

I'll get my hands on tickets via family connections. Will happily give it up to any Antrim fans struggling to get a ticket  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 02:34:39 PM
https://onlineradiobox.com/ie/shannonside/?cs=ie.shannonside&played=1

Thomas McCann penalty right away saffron 3 points up. Longford commentator called us Fermanagh by mistake.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 12, 2022, 02:56:47 PM
Flying out of the traps. 8pts up after 25mins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 03:05:59 PM
Im a big believer of playing with the wind in the first half. Take every advantage going. Antrim 1-10 Longford 0 - 2  thirty four minutes gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 03:10:16 PM
Half time

Antrim 1 -11
Longford 0 - 03

Longford have the breeze in the second half but Antrim playing with more purpose.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 03:47:35 PM
Antrim 1 -15
Longford 0 - 6 19 minutes into the second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 03:51:25 PM
Antrim 1 - 15
Longford 0 - 08

24 minutes gone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
Antrim 1 - 18
Longford 0 - 09

Antrim in auto pilot this second half 27 minutes gone.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 12, 2022, 04:07:23 PM
Exhibit A of why Cavan don't want to come to Whiterock!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 12, 2022, 04:09:23 PM
Full time

Antrim 1 - 19
Longford 0 12

Great sign of a team to rack up so many scores with five different free takers as well. Hopefully we win Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2022, 05:12:28 PM
Brilliant display today, total cruise control from start to finish..another masterclass from Saffron Mick with seriously strong performances from Conor Murray, Ryan Murray and Marc Jordan. Tomas was due a decent game and today he also delivered. Big Marty Johnston looked like he had never been away either. Two games left, one more win can probably get us over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2022, 08:30:33 PM
Westmeath beat Limerick.....leaving Saffrons sitting proudly at top of the table tonight with two games left. Having said that our last two are tough games. Louth away a tight call and Westmeath must be going well on tonight's performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2022, 08:55:05 PM
Should they win one game from two, will they get promoted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 12, 2022, 09:02:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 12, 2022, 05:12:28 PM
Brilliant display today, total cruise control from start to finish..another masterclass from Saffron Mick with seriously strong performances from Conor Murray, Ryan Murray and Marc Jordan. Tomas was due a decent game and today he also delivered. Big Marty Johnston looked like he had never been away either. Two games left, one more win can probably get us over the line.
cargin and LD must be hopin their county lads bring that form to the vlub to dethrone creggan this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2022, 09:08:28 PM
A win and a draw I think would do it. Two strong players missing today so that's a great result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 12, 2022, 11:55:40 PM
Never seen an Antrim team dominate a match for 70 mins before. OK Longford maybe were poor but our lads dominated every sector of the field. Great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2022, 11:43:37 AM
How many times was the ball brought forward by the ref after a free was given?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2022, 11:44:17 AM
As poor as Longford were, that was a performance to do a heart the world of good. I was nervous for the game but that has now laid the perfect platform to go into the remaining games and go all out for promotion. Well done saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 13, 2022, 06:30:54 PM
Oh, and Cavan were beat!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 13, 2022, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 13, 2022, 06:30:54 PM
Oh, and Cavan were beat!
I wonder how many were at it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2022, 09:43:59 PM
Jokers. The opinion they have of themselves is as deluded as I've seen. I cant wait to see all 850 of them leave Corrigan park with their tales between their legs  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 09:56:23 AM
Just how many under 20 league games proceeded on Saturday.....?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 09:56:23 AM
Just how many under 20 league games proceeded on Saturday.....?

2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2022, 10:16:26 AM
St Endas taking the two points against Creggan is the eye-catching highlight of the club weekend activity. Baker could do with a win at Ballymena before the gloss starts to wear off.

St Brigid's gave us our fill of it tbf, their discipline has got noticably worse (two fully deserved red cards yesterday) that came back to bite them. If they stick to the football they wouldn't be the worst.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 10:16:26 AM
St Endas taking the two points against Creggan is the eye-catching highlight of the club weekend activity. Baker could do with a win at Ballymena before the gloss starts to wear off.

St Brigid's gave us our fill of it tbf, their discipline has got noticably worse (two fully deserved red cards yesterday) that came back to bite them. If they stick to the football they wouldn't be the worst.

For most teams its a battle of who has the best reserve team to be honest and a lot of shadow boxing, Id say PG1 and St Brigid's had most of their main players available. But the likes of the Johnnies Creggan Cargin and St Enda's are putting out under strength teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on March 14, 2022, 10:36:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 09:56:23 AM
Just how many under 20 league games proceeded on Saturday.....?

2

and for 1 of them games one of the teams only had 15 players, the rest were tied up with county u20/u17 football and hurling squads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on March 14, 2022, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 10:16:26 AM
St Endas taking the two points against Creggan is the eye-catching highlight of the club weekend activity. Baker could do with a win at Ballymena before the gloss starts to wear off.

St Brigid's gave us our fill of it tbf, their discipline has got noticably worse (two fully deserved red cards yesterday) that came back to bite them. If they stick to the football they wouldn't be the worst.



Game finished 13 a side?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 11:28:27 AM
Cargin researched their bench with 11 starters unavailable and the stand-ins answered the call with a good win over the championship finalists.
The minors also did well to gain the win over the reigning minor champions.
Seems Cargin v Moneyglass was the only Div One under-20 game played...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 14, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
That's a serious win for Cargin that much missing. Where Aghagallon missing many? I cant see too many reports published yet on saff gael. Who are the 11 men to come back in CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
We had a player sent off for second yellow in the last minute, so no, not 13 a side!!

CB I looked at your team there on Saffron Gael match report and no offence, at least three quarters of that team will expect to start championship. Mick Tomas James and KMS  are four, who the heck are the other 7???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on March 14, 2022, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
We had a player sent off for second yellow in the last minute, so no, not 13 a side!!

CB I looked at your team there on Saffron Gael match report and no offence, at least three quarters of that team will expect to start championship. Mick Tomas James and KMS  are four, who the heck are the other 7???


Ah ok... I thought PG! had a man blacked carded with 8-9 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
We had a player sent off for second yellow in the last minute, so no, not 13 a side!!

CB I looked at your team there on Saffron Gael match report and no offence, at least three quarters of that team will expect to start championship. Mick Tomas James and KMS  are four, who the heck are the other 7???
And, K Mc Shane, Benny Laverty, Ronan Devlin, Ronan Gribbin, Paul Mc Cann, Kieran Close, M Magill.....probably would not make the Casement's team BS....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 14, 2022, 12:09:59 PM
You are pushing it a bit there with Magill and Close! Think those men have had their day. For what it's worth I'd love either of them in our full forward line this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 14, 2022, 12:11:02 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2022, 09:43:59 PM
Jokers. The opinion they have of themselves is as deluded as I've seen. I cant wait to see all 850 of them leave Corrigan park with their tales between their legs  :P

Seriously lad, give your mammy back her phone and let the big boys talk football.

Antrim looking good for promotion, fair play to you as up in Div 2 you get too play more football and test yourselves against some really decent teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2022, 12:13:01 PM
20 took part yesterday then and 11 more to come in. Going to be a lot of disappointed faces around Cargin when the championship panel is announced. All I'm saying is the vast majority of those who featured for Cargin yesterday will be expecting game time come championship. Feel ok to disagree if you want.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on March 14, 2022, 12:26:44 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 14, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
That's a serious win for Cargin that much missing. Where Aghagallon missing many? I cant see too many reports published yet on saff gael. Who are the 11 men to come back in CB?
Aghagallon only started 5 men that started the final last season including the keeper.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 14, 2022, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 14, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
That's a serious win for Cargin that much missing. Where Aghagallon missing many? I cant see too many reports published yet on saff gael. Who are the 11 men to come back in CB?

We have a load of injuries and men not even back yet. A couple that started yesterday will be pushing for places and another few will be nowhere near it. About 5/6 established senior players playing currently. Division 1 is strange atm. As MR2 said, it's a battle to see who has the best panel or reserves. No one really anywhere near full strength apart from PG1 going by saffron Gael match reports and they've a few missing too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2022, 12:50:35 PM
Has Alex Ferguson infected this thread or maybe more topical Micko  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 14, 2022, 01:06:30 PM
Jim is Eunan Walsh fully fit? Not getting much game time with county, surely should be getting more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on March 14, 2022, 01:23:40 PM
Can anyone please confirm what the arrangements in each division is regarding relegation and promotion? I have heard different schemes from people but just looking clarity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Would be good to get clarification on that alrighty Tyrdub. Championship pots drawn out tonight will also be of interest!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
We had a player sent off for second yellow in the last minute, so no, not 13 a side!!

CB I looked at your team there on Saffron Gael match report and no offence, at least three quarters of that team will expect to start championship. Mick Tomas James and KMS  are four, who the heck are the other 7???
And, K Mc Shane, Benny Laverty, Ronan Devlin, Ronan Gribbin, Paul Mc Cann, Kieran Close, M Magill.....probably would not make the Casement's team BS....

how many started the semi final last year? 2, 3 if you include Magill in nets, if John stays injury free he'll be starting nets, great keeper
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 12:13:01 PM
20 took part yesterday then and 11 more to come in. Going to be a lot of disappointed faces around Cargin when the championship panel is announced. All I'm saying is the vast majority of those who featured for Cargin yesterday will be expecting game time come championship. Feel ok to disagree if you want.
That is exactly to size of panel you require if you contemplate giving the championship full attention.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
We had a player sent off for second yellow in the last minute, so no, not 13 a side!!

CB I looked at your team there on Saffron Gael match report and no offence, at least three quarters of that team will expect to start championship. Mick Tomas James and KMS  are four, who the heck are the other 7???
And, K Mc Shane, Benny Laverty, Ronan Devlin, Ronan Gribbin, Paul Mc Cann, Kieran Close, M Magill.....probably would not make the Casement's team BS....
Kieran

how many started the semi final last year? 2, 3 if you include Magill in nets, if John stays injury free he'll be starting nets, great keeper
Always suspected your vision.....
K Mc Shane, Ronan Gribbin, Ronan Devlin, and Benny Laverty started last year......+ Magill
Kieran Close and Paul Mc Cann made appearance...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 14, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
Cargin V Cargin final would be some game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 14, 2022, 02:32:22 PM
Did someone say that the championship draw is tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 14, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
Cargin V Cargin final would be some game.
Maybe Cargin v Aghagallon....now that would please if MR2 stayed at home.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 14, 2022, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 14, 2022, 02:16:04 PM
Cargin V Cargin final would be some game.
Maybe Cargin v Aghagallon....now that would please if MR2 stayed at home.....

Cargin 2nds beat Aghagallon yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 14, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2022, 12:13:01 PM
20 took part yesterday then and 11 more to come in. Going to be a lot of disappointed faces around Cargin when the championship panel is announced. All I'm saying is the vast majority of those who featured for Cargin yesterday will be expecting game time come championship. Feel ok to disagree if you want.
8 and at the most 9 who started will be starting come August. These are strange league games, now a couple of weeks with no games. The pitches breathing a sigh of relief
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2022, 04:24:00 PM
When you've got a few championship medals under your belt a league title wouldn't be top of your wish list. But as someone here alluded to recently, Creggan finally got over the line but that was after building up a winning mentality in the league. The championship draw is tonight and those in the top four league positions last year will be glad they are seeded, thereby avoiding each other in the early stages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 14, 2022, 08:38:30 PM
Creggan, LD, St Johns & St Galls in same group  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 14, 2022, 08:38:30 PM
Creggan, LD, St Johns & St Galls in same group  :o

Jeez ......soft in the extreme....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 08:48:35 PM
Handy draw on the other side, free one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2022, 08:59:21 PM
Did Frank the infamous dog do the draw?

U not care for the little boss man then...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 14, 2022, 09:42:04 PM
Same old same old for pg1 but should be able to get out of group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 14, 2022, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 14, 2022, 09:42:04 PM
Same old same old for pg1 but should be able to get out of group.

Should do, but the next round to.worry about if they make it..Ahoghill and the Biddies to cause problems maybe.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 14, 2022, 09:57:56 PM
What's draws for QF onwards?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 14, 2022, 10:42:44 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2022, 08:59:21 PM
Did Frank the infamous dog do the draw?

Frank distanced himself from Antrim county board a long time ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 15, 2022, 08:46:59 AM
ULSTER Council are set to perform a u-turn and hand Antrim back home advantage for their Ulster SFC tie with Cavan next month.

A meeting of Ulster's CCC tomorrow night (Wednesday) will allow for further representations to be made by Antrim on the retention of Corrigan Park as the game's venue.

A site meeting was due to take place at the west Belfast venue yesterday to allow for a final capacity to be agreed with Belfast City Council.

There is the potential that it could hold up to 4,000 spectators, with a minimum of 3,500.

It's understood that Antrim had also considered erecting temporary seating in the grass area behind the goal opposite the clubhouse end in a bid to improve the ground's capacity, although it appears unlikely to go ahead.

Having been pulled out first when the draw was made last November, Antrim had felt their recent £1m investment in a new covered, seated stand and concrete terracing in Corrigan Park would deem the St John's ground fit to host the tie.

The Saffrons' last home football championship game was nine years ago, after which Casement Park was closed to allow redevelopment to begin, only for the ground to become captive in a saga that has still yet to reach any conclusion.

But an Ulster meeting last week led to a vote among delegates on a proposal from Cavan that the game should be moved out of the west Belfast venue on the grounds of needing an increased capacity for fans.

It's understood that Antrim's delegates had no warning of the topic being on the agenda prior to half an hour before the meeting.

Tyrone and Derry stood by the Saffrons' case to retain home advantage, but were outvoted by the other five counties backing Cavan's move.

However, The Irish News understands that some of the county executive committees were unhappy that their Ulster Council delegates had voted to remove home advantage from Antrim.

With the Saffrons appearing ready to dig their heels in and insist the game be held at Corrigan Park to the point of refusing to field if it was moved elsewhere, they will be given another chance to put a properly prepared case to delegates tomorrow night.

It's expected that a decision will then be taken that would hand home advantage back to Antrim and alleviate the growing pressure on the provincial body over the issue.

While the decision to move the game was defended by Colm O'Rourke on RTÉ's League Sunday on the grounds that "you could be expecting a crowd of 15,000 at a game like that", a neutral venue was never expected to attract anything close to that figure.

The 2pm Saturday throw-in coupled with live coverage on BBC NI and the April weather meant realistic forecasts had been set at around 5,000 spectators.

No venue had been set in the aftermath of last week's meeting, although the game would be most likely to move to Armagh or Omagh if a switch was in order.

That now appears increasingly unlikely and that the standoff over the April 23 encounter will be resolved by tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 15, 2022, 10:44:50 AM
That's my understanding Barnish. Delgany might be able to confirm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2022, 10:59:51 AM
It doesn't look like good timing. Should there even be a league at that age group? If the leagues and county games are on then surely it's always going to be a problem. Add that to schools stuff still going on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Saffs is it the day of the week / time or period of the year the delegates are complaining about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2022, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Saffs is it the day of the week / time or period of the year the delegates are complaining about?

Saturday at 3pm when the likelihood is that these lads will have a Saturday job at the least is completely ridiculous.

It is like they genuinely sit down and try to come up with the single worse time of the year and the single most awkward time for these lads and go for that option.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Saffs is it the day of the week / time or period of the year the delegates are complaining about?


it was the saturday plus the 3pm, only 2 games went ahead from all the fixtures. No matter what the chair says , alot of lads do work on a saturday at that age, think the suggestion was made at the earlier meeting that clubs could drop to 13 aside and still play the competitive game but that really hasnt help. U20 hurling gets a weeknight slot when it starts!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Cannot find such anywhere and if as you suggest is correct  Is it top of group v second in other and where are games to sited.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 12:28:27 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Saffs is it the day of the week / time or period of the year the delegates are complaining about?


it was the saturday plus the 3pm, only 2 games went ahead from all the fixtures. No matter what the chair says , alot of lads do work on a saturday at that age, think the suggestion was made at the earlier meeting that clubs could drop to 13 aside and still play the competitive game but that really hasnt help. U20 hurling gets a weeknight slot when it starts!!!
I see your point, hate to talk about other counties again but games like these are on a Monday night in Derry / Tyrone for obvious reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Cannot find such anywhere and if as you suggest is correct  Is it top of group v second in other and where are games to sited.....?

What i understood it to be, it would be for example Top G1 v 2nd G4 at G1 venue.

So Top G2 v 2nd G3 as well.

Usually would be the winning team of each group gets home advantage, unless they are going to draw it/toss a coin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Cannot find such anywhere and if as you suggest is correct  Is it top of group v second in other and where are games to sited.....?

What i understood it to be, it would be for example Top G1 v 2nd G4 at G1 venue.

So Top G2 v 2nd G3 as well.

Usually would be the winning team of each group gets home advantage, unless they are going to draw it/toss a coin.
How come such did not emanate from last night's meeting and cannot find such official info anywhere...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2022, 01:28:54 PM
I think, if you win all your games your are the champions, its fairly easy to work out ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Cannot find such anywhere and if as you suggest is correct  Is it top of group v second in other and where are games to sited.....?

What i understood it to be, it would be for example Top G1 v 2nd G4 at G1 venue.

So Top G2 v 2nd G3 as well.

Usually would be the winning team of each group gets home advantage, unless they are going to draw it/toss a coin.
How come such did not emanate from last night's meeting and cannot find such official info anywhere...??

I didn't say it was correct, hence why my 1st post on the subject was a question over whether if anyone knew what the format was going to be.

I am speculating and hoping someone with more involvement in the draw can answer the question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Cannot find such anywhere and if as you suggest is correct  Is it top of group v second in other and where are games to sited.....?

What i understood it to be, it would be for example Top G1 v 2nd G4 at G1 venue.

So Top G2 v 2nd G3 as well.

Usually would be the winning team of each group gets home advantage, unless they are going to draw it/toss a coin.
How come such did not emanate from last night's meeting and cannot find such official info anywhere...??

I didn't say it was correct, hence why my 1st post on the subject was a question over whether if anyone knew what the format was going to be.

I am speculating and hoping someone with more involvement in the draw can answer the question.

Have already asked the league secretary for such info to complete piece on championship...
As yet no reply.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 15, 2022, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 15, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 15, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2022, 10:52:33 PM
In the Antrim Senior Football Championship, the groups are back but the home and away aspect is gone, meaning teams play each other just once, reducing the chances of dead rubbers.

With 14 clubs in the Senior draw, there are two groups of four and two of three, with Group One containing defending champions Creggan, Lámh Dhearg, St John's and St Gall's in what is undoubtedly the group of death.

Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass and Ahoghill will fight it out for the two quarter-final spots in Group Two, while the remaining two groups have teams with one less game or play, or less margin for error, depending on your point of view.

Aghagallon, runners-up in 2021, Gort na Móna and Tír na nÓg and grouped in one section, while Cargin, Naomh Éanna and Rossa will battle it out in the other.

Is it top 2 from each group go through, then Group 1 v Group 4 and 2 v 3?
Cannot find such anywhere and if as you suggest is correct  Is it top of group v second in other and where are games to sited.....?

What i understood it to be, it would be for example Top G1 v 2nd G4 at G1 venue.

So Top G2 v 2nd G3 as well.

Usually would be the winning team of each group gets home advantage, unless they are going to draw it/toss a coin.
How come such did not emanate from last night's meeting and cannot find such official info anywhere...??

I didn't say it was correct, hence why my 1st post on the subject was a question over whether if anyone knew what the format was going to be.

I am speculating and hoping someone with more involvement in the draw can answer the question.

As sure as night follows day our learned friend MR2 will come in with a smart comment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2022, 03:59:54 PM
do the teams in Sen champ play each other twice? if not the groups of 3 only have 2 matches - doesnt smell right.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 15, 2022, 04:01:56 PM
Only play once.

The 'group of death' tag may have been more applicable in 2020. I see plain sailing for Creggan in (1), PG1 (2) A'gallon (3) and Cargin (4)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 15, 2022, 04:14:29 PM
Would have to disagree -

Group 1 - Creggan favs but lamh dhearg are strong championship team and the Johnnies in championship never easy, could have beat Creggan last year. Galls rebuilding but could take a scalp.

Group 2 - PG1 slight favs but both ahoghill & st brigids beat them in group stage last year so will have no fear at all. Moneyglass nothing to fear and will have less injuries than last year.

Group 3&4 should be straight forward enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2022, 04:23:59 PM
Top 2 in quarter finals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2022, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 15, 2022, 04:01:56 PM
Only play once.

The 'group of death' tag may have been more applicable in 2020. I see plain sailing for Creggan in (1), PG1 (2) A'gallon (3) and Cargin (4)
neutral venues ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2022, 05:40:56 AM
Talking of venues, the stakes have been raised by the GPA's official support of Antrims claim to retain home venue against Cavan in the forthcoming championship. The odds are surely now stacked in our favour for last weeks ridiculous decision to be overturned.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 16, 2022, 08:18:55 AM
Despite persistent questions to the powers that be, I still remain unaware as to the quarter final pairings for the senior quarter finals or indeed the schedule of venues.


Speculation aplenty, but no official answers.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 16, 2022, 09:29:52 AM
You would hope that our county board have this years Championship plans watertight and crystal clear after last years semi-final extra-time fiasco...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 16, 2022, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2022, 05:40:56 AM
Talking of venues, the stakes have been raised by the GPA's official support of Antrims claim to retain home venue against Cavan in the forthcoming championship. The odds are surely now stacked in our favour for last weeks ridiculous decision to be overturned.

I'm hearing it has already been overturned behind the scenes. All 8 Ulster counties will reject Cavans proposal of a venue change after a proper presentation is given to delegates either this week or next. It's a done deal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 16, 2022, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2022, 03:59:54 PM
do the teams in Sen champ play each other twice? if not the groups of 3 only have 2 matches - doesnt smell right.....

Yes as far as I know its only one game each although no-one seems too sure. No-one seems to know what groups play eachother in quarter finals either. I would guess same as last year in which case group 1v4 and 2v3 and venues to be neutral, which would make sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 16, 2022, 10:52:47 AM
Quote from: ck on March 16, 2022, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 15, 2022, 03:59:54 PM
do the teams in Sen champ play each other twice? if not the groups of 3 only have 2 matches - doesnt smell right.....

Yes as far as I know its only one game each although no-one seems too sure. No-one seems to know what groups play eachother in quarter finals either. I would guess same as last year in which case group 1v4 and 2v3 and venues to be neutral, which would make sense.

CCC tend to use 1 v 3   and 2 v 4   based on last years play offs etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 16, 2022, 11:38:58 AM
Think it's definitely only 1 game each
Only 3 dates allowed for in master fixtures list
31st July 14th August 28th August
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 16, 2022, 12:58:09 PM
If it's one round of games, does that mean some teams get 2 home games and others get 1, or are all championship games played at neutral venues this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 16, 2022, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 16, 2022, 12:58:09 PM
If it's one round of games, does that mean some teams get 2 home games and others get 1, or are all championship games played at neutral venues this year?

That's the part that hasn't been clarifed
Probably neutral I'd imagine, and 2 groups will only have 2 games each whilst 2 groups have 3 games each
But as someone says it all needs to come out before it starts to stop last years semi fiasco happening again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 16, 2022, 01:47:25 PM
Group 1 v 4
Group 2 v 3

Is the draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2022, 02:06:43 PM
everyone gets one game at home then a neutral venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 16, 2022, 02:45:43 PM
IFC & SFC have same formats
Top 2 in each group qualify for 1/4 finals at a neutral venue
A  winner gp 1 v run- up gp 4
B        w gp 2    v  r/ up 3
C        w gp 3    v  r/ up  2
D        w gp 4    v  r / up 1

IFC semis   C  v A  &  B v D
SFC  semis  A v D  &  B v C

In 4 team groups, some teams have 2 home & 1 away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on March 16, 2022, 03:09:53 PM
Cargin and Creggan to meet in the semifinal stage again. Another handy run to a final for Aghagallon or Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on March 16, 2022, 03:55:22 PM
There's a group to get out of and then a quarter final DK before anybody can think about a semi.😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 16, 2022, 09:17:56 PM
Corrigan back on?  We'll all have to go now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 16, 2022, 09:28:42 PM
The game is over, the rebels have won. Justice done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2022, 09:56:45 PM
Hopefully it's a sell out now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 16, 2022, 10:04:07 PM
It still won't be the most important game we play this year. Next 2 mean far more, let's hope we get over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2022, 10:06:05 PM
Louth game massive. Harte has them going well and they have a load of big men which is something we struggle with. Good test for us but a tough one too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 16, 2022, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 16, 2022, 10:04:07 PM
It still won't be the most important game we play this year. Next 2 mean far more, let's hope we get over the line.
Cannot argue with that RC.....the next two games home and away are of huge importance..and Mc Ginley's men are capable...




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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on March 16, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
Cavan giving it the big un but they won't even bring a big crowd anyway. Corrigan big enough and the rightful venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on March 16, 2022, 11:45:56 PM
What's the Official capacity of Corrigan Park?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2022, 12:34:16 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 16, 2022, 11:45:56 PM
What's the Official capacity of Corrigan Park?
I have seen everything from 3700 to 5000 but I believe the issue started due to an advertised capacity of less than 4000.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2022, 08:45:26 AM
Louth will be real test of our character on Sunday. It was a dog fight from the first bell last year and we got our noses in front at the line. Harte definitely has kicked them on, but Antrim have improved as well, so a classic is on the cards. I'd settle for a draw (because that would put us ahead of them on a head to head on scoring difference) that would be a great result to take back to Corrigan for the final game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2022, 08:52:19 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on March 16, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
Cavan giving it the big un but they won't even bring a big crowd anyway. Corrigan big enough and the rightful venue.

Glad it's back in Corrigan Park, now ye have no excuses possibly a Div2 team vrs a Div4 team played in a tight ground with away supporter numbers seriously curtailed. So you'll have no problem getting to an Ulster semi final, maybe a final. And as for a crowd give us 50% of the tickets and see how many we send back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 17, 2022, 09:42:58 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2022, 08:52:19 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on March 16, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
Cavan giving it the big un but they won't even bring a big crowd anyway. Corrigan big enough and the rightful venue.

Glad it's back in Corrigan Park, now ye have no excuses possibly a Div2 team vrs a Div4 team played in a tight ground with away supporter numbers seriously curtailed. So you'll have no problem getting to an Ulster semi final, maybe a final. And as for a crowd give us 50% of the tickets and see how many we send back.
Fork tongue Itchy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2022, 10:36:23 AM
So we're possibly a division two team but you're not possibly a division three team?

Let's be honest - Cavan people will expect to beat Antrim. You beat us probably handy enough the other year too. It's a game we can win but I would expect most people would expect Cavan to win. After all it's not long since you were champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2022, 12:43:16 PM
You'll find us Antrim supporters are quite modest with our expectations. Iggy  The Louth match on Sunday in the league is as big a game for us as our match against you lot, which, let's be honest, neither of us are going to win the Ulster chamiponship anyway. Corrigan it is for that one, rightly so, and shame on the way one or two officers of your county tried to undermine the sporting integrity of that. It will be a 50/50 game, may the best team win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on March 17, 2022, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2022, 08:52:19 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on March 16, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
Cavan giving it the big un but they won't even bring a big crowd anyway. Corrigan big enough and the rightful venue.

Glad it's back in Corrigan Park, now ye have no excuses possibly a Div2 team vrs a Div4 team played in a tight ground with away supporter numbers seriously curtailed. So you'll have no problem getting to an Ulster semi final, maybe a final. And as for a crowd give us 50% of the tickets and see how many we send back.
Away numbers aren't seriously curtailed. You've as much access to tickets as Antrim fans do. So you can bin that excuse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 17, 2022, 03:23:34 PM
What's the Antrim support been like in Corrigan this year? Have been to both hurling games and big crowds, obviously playing good opposition helps. Saw a few photos on saffron Gael of last weeks game and nobody on far side, opposite stand. That side not opened ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 17, 2022, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2022, 08:52:19 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on March 16, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
Cavan giving it the big un but they won't even bring a big crowd anyway. Corrigan big enough and the rightful venue.

Glad it's back in Corrigan Park, now ye have no excuses possibly a Div2 team vrs a Div4 team played in a tight ground with away supporter numbers seriously curtailed. So you'll have no problem getting to an Ulster semi final, maybe a final. And as for a crowd give us 50% of the tickets and see how many we send back.

Cavan don't deserve a single ticket after trying to pull a stunt like that. Glad fairness prevailed and the money argument was diminished.
All of that aside it should be a cracking match. Both teams going well in the lower divisions and this game is a realistic win for both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 18, 2022, 11:09:20 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Saffs is it the day of the week / time or period of the year the delegates are complaining about?


it was the saturday plus the 3pm, only 2 games went ahead from all the fixtures. No matter what the chair says , alot of lads do work on a saturday at that age, think the suggestion was made at the earlier meeting that clubs could drop to 13 aside and still play the competitive game but that really hasnt help. U20 hurling gets a weeknight slot when it starts!!!
My young lad in the Cargin squad at this age, he falls into that bracket of not making the senior team and overage for minor, he's already had word Ballymena aren't fielding this weekend so no game. With no adult games fixed for this weekend and games still being called off, it really does seem a waste of time. Why did teams enter if they weren't going to field?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 18, 2022, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 18, 2022, 11:09:20 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 15, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 15, 2022, 10:50:01 AM
Couple of clubs raising concerns over the timing of the U20 league at the meeting last night. Chairman talked over the delegates and was completely dismissive of their concerns and very condescending. Not a good image for the top table.
Saffs is it the day of the week / time or period of the year the delegates are complaining about?


it was the saturday plus the 3pm, only 2 games went ahead from all the fixtures. No matter what the chair says , alot of lads do work on a saturday at that age, think the suggestion was made at the earlier meeting that clubs could drop to 13 aside and still play the competitive game but that really hasnt help. U20 hurling gets a weeknight slot when it starts!!!
My young lad in the Cargin squad at this age, he falls into that bracket of not making the senior team and overage for minor, he's already had word Ballymena aren't fielding this weekend so no game. With no adult games fixed for this weekend and games still being called off, it really does seem a waste of time. Why did teams enter if they weren't going to field?

U20/21 has always been difficult. It has been pushed around  various slots but never really worked well.
Worst decision ever was changing Minor age.
It is hard to see who that works for

Having said that it is hard to understand that Ballymena who have been competitive across the age groups can't put out 15 players. If they are ever going to make the step up they need to find a way to fix this. Their drop out must be very high



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2022, 01:14:15 PM
Is there a need for a league though? There was never an under 21 league. Would most of these guys not be playing senior or reserve?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 18, 2022, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2022, 01:14:15 PM
Is there a need for a league though? There was never an under 21 league. Would most of these guys not be playing senior or reserve?
ITG as far as I'm aware there was an attempt @ an U20 league last year which pretty much failed followed by an U20 championship later in the year.(might be wrong on this)

The U20 league was only introduced to try any bridge the gap for the 17 year olds who miss the minor cut (and late developers) who were not in a position to step up to adult football.

It is a half baked attempt to patch up the stupidity of the decision to change the minor age level.

The GAA had the opportunity to reverse one of the worst decisions they ever made but chose not to.

You would struggle to find anyone who has ever been involved in coaching at any level who thinks it was a good decison



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2022, 03:02:32 PM
Yeah it's not a good decision at all and the fact they more or less doubled down on it doesn't help either.

I would have thought if you had solid enough reserve leagues the adult thing wouldn't be as much of a problem. There used to be a lot more I think going on at reserve level than there is these days (could be wrong as I don't follow as much but it definitely seems that way).

I guess it is a damned if you do and damned if you don't - if you don't you forget players and if you do then there's so much unavailability from the players who are good enough to be on seniors / county setups etc. A championship would suffice IMO.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2022, 08:20:41 AM
Which is a bit silly if true. Ulster winter intermediate league not important in the overall scheme of things....smacks of a bit of desperation from new management. Not a great look if All Saints can't field at under 20 level because of this. Should be plenty of players to fulfil both fixtures imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2022, 08:52:30 AM
Thoughts on tomorrow...really looking to this. Was at the game last year when Ryan swung over a last minute winner, and credit to both sets of players and management for kicking things on in Antrim and Louth. Tomorrow will be a great test of who has made more progress. Our fitness levels were poor last year, we are certainly looking much better in that department nowadays, so I can see this going to the wire and am quietly confident we can take both points up the road.

Thankfully Conor Murray is looking like a permanent fixture in the forward line, adding a lot of badly needed punch. What was his cameo roles all about in the first four outings?? Peter Healy is a good all-round player but is one of a very few corner backs we can rely on as tight man marking specialists. Patrick McCormack is another.

As alluded to in the Saffron Gael preview, Enda has stuck with 11 starters from day one of the league this year. Outside of that list Patrick Mc Aleer and Dermot Mc Aleese have proven credentials and would always expect to start.

Enda has plenty of tough calls to make. Marty Johnston has played his way up the selection ladder after last Saturday's superb display, Decy Lynch is tried tested and proven at this level, Eunan Walsh is more than good enough for game time. Pat Shivers took his ten minutes well last week and must be going close. Marc Jordan settling in as a must start too at this stage. These are great selection headaches to have, especially if or when Kevin Small  Conor Stewart Jamie Gribben and Paddy Mc Bride are available.

I'm not so sure that I can recall a team that you can make a genuine case for so many non starters, it may be a selectors nightmare but a managers dream having such close competition for places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
Big Marty will definitely start. I really liked Dermie in around the middle against Longford, great use of the ball. Kevin makes the bench so hamstring must be ok.
You wouldn't know there was a football game on tomorrow if you looked at our social media, small ball coverage everywhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2022, 07:33:02 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
Big Marty will definitely start. I really liked Dermie in around the middle against Longford, great use of the ball. Kevin makes the bench so hamstring must be ok.
You wouldn't know there was a football game on tomorrow if you looked at our social media, small ball coverage everywhere

Are you complaining about our pro? I think the job (non paying loads of hours) becomes available every year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 07:36:16 PM
Why MR , do you think I'm wrong. Just stating what is there to see. Perhaps there is an explanation for it but doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
Big Marty will definitely start. I really liked Dermie in around the middle against Longford, great use of the ball. Kevin makes the bench so hamstring must be ok.
You wouldn't know there was a football game on tomorrow if you looked at our social media, small ball coverage everywhere

Not far wrong in that perception Saffso, that football team.as presented on fb will positively not start tomorrow in Ardee..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2022, 08:04:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 19, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 07:13:16 PM
Big Marty will definitely start. I really liked Dermie in around the middle against Longford, great use of the ball. Kevin makes the bench so hamstring must be ok.
You wouldn't know there was a football game on tomorrow if you looked at our social media, small ball coverage everywhere

Not far wrong in that perception Saffso, that football team.as presented on fb will positively not start tomorrow in Ardee..
Team.has been changed two minutes ago.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 08:55:04 PM
Limerick beat Laois this evening by the minimum. They go top now, one point a as head of us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 19, 2022, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 07:36:16 PM
Why MR , do you think I'm wrong. Just stating what is there to see. Perhaps there is an explanation for it but doesn't look good.

So there was an announcement of the Antrim hurling team yesterday, not exactly wall to wall coverage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 19, 2022, 09:44:09 PM
There's a report in the Irish Independent about the state of Louth underage football after getting beat by Dublin in the Leinster minor championship today by 25 points. Antrim getting defeats like this week in week out lately but we are so used to it now we don't question anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 19, 2022, 10:06:12 PM
Tbf Louth have a very good u20 team, drew with Tyrone in the Leo Murphy cup. Our minors well beat by Tyrone today I see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2022, 07:23:34 AM
After three games our minors are bottom of the league and minus 40 in point difference. Not a statistic anyone wants to see. A mountain of work needing done, as we all already know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2022, 07:27:27 AM
A lot of possible permutations can happen between now and next Sunday....but....in a nutshell, IF we win today, and Fermanagh can claim both points at Westmeath, we are guaranteed promotion today after 6 rounds. Good luck to players and management today.

Can we be enjoying a celebration tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 20, 2022, 08:30:57 AM
If we beat Louth then that would be a proper statement of intent.  They are going really well.  If we beat them, then this team is going places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 20, 2022, 01:46:25 PM
Is thd match on any streams ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 03:41:57 PM
Not a good day for Antrim, next week hopefully dust themselves down and go again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:02:36 PM
Every team (in any sport) can have an off day, and today was exactly that. We were hammered today, make no mistake about that. Very few players can look in the mirror tonight and say they did well, ironically a few who can were some of the first to be taken off! There were a few who got the full tenure (yet again) and I've no idea how they managed to get full game time.

Today was as poor as I can recall. I was hoping to be able to post something much more positive, but if we are going to call a spade a spade, we have no place in division two on today's performance.

Louth looked like a well drilled team today, we were the exact opposite. We looked like we had met up in the carpark before the game....that's the stark reality! Bad weekend at office all round, hurlers hammered and minors mauled.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:18:25 PM
The maths at this stage are straight forward. We need to beat Westmeath, and we need Fermanagh to do us a favour and go to Limerick and turn them over. Thankfully after their draw today they still have an outside chance of promotion, and therefore all still to play for.

All we can do is put on a performance at home against Westmeath and hope for results going in our favour in Limerick..but it's out of our hands at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 20, 2022, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:18:25 PM
The maths at this stage are straight forward. We need to beat Westmeath, and we need Fermanagh to do us a favour and go to Limerick and turn them over. Thankfully after their draw today they still have an outside chance of promotion, and therefore all still to play for.

All we can do is put on a performance at home against Westmeath and hope for results going in our favour in Limerick..but it's out of our hands at this stage.

I thought I read Fermanagh have nothing to play for
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2022, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:18:25 PM
The maths at this stage are straight forward. We need to beat Westmeath, and we need Fermanagh to do us a favour and go to Limerick and turn them over. Thankfully after their draw today they still have an outside chance of promotion, and therefore all still to play for.

All we can do is put on a performance at home against Westmeath and hope for results going in our favour in Limerick..but it's out of our hands at this stage.
Jeez, a bit harsh BS......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on March 20, 2022, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:18:25 PM
The maths at this stage are straight forward. We need to beat Westmeath, and we need Fermanagh to do us a favour and go to Limerick and turn them over. Thankfully after their draw today they still have an outside chance of promotion, and therefore all still to play for.

All we can do is put on a performance at home against Westmeath and hope for results going in our favour in Limerick..but it's out of our hands at this stage.

Bannside explain to me how Fermanagh can go up.
Antrim have us on head to head and we have a inferior scoring difference to Westmeath and Antrim.

I suppose if Antrim and Westmeath draw and we beat Limerick by say 18 points then we are up.
Thats just not happening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2022, 09:53:39 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/football/football-league-roinn-3/tables (https://www.gaa.ie/football/football-league-roinn-3/tables)

If Antrim and Westmeath draw and you beat Limerick then that leaves four teams on eight points. You need to win by 17 plus points though... head to head wouldn't matter as it should only count for two teams being level and score difference otherwise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on March 20, 2022, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2022, 09:53:39 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/football/football-league-roinn-3/tables (https://www.gaa.ie/football/football-league-roinn-3/tables)

If Antrim and Westmeath draw and you beat Limerick then that leaves four teams on eight points. You need to win by 17 plus points though... head to head wouldn't matter as it should only count for two teams being level and score difference otherwise.

So as i thought we can't get promoted .
Not saying we won't be going for the win though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2022, 10:09:05 PM
It is still mathematically possible... (though highly highly unlikely!(unfortunately))
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 20, 2022, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:02:36 PM
Every team (in any sport) can have an off day, and today was exactly that. We were hammered today, make no mistake about that. Very few players can look in the mirror tonight and say they did well, ironically a few who can were some of the first to be taken off! There were a few who got the full tenure (yet again) and I've no idea how they managed to get full game time.

Today was as poor as I can recall. I was hoping to be able to post something much more positive, but if we are going to call a spade a spade, we have no place in division two on today's performance.

Louth looked like a well drilled team today, we were the exact opposite. We looked like we had met up in the carpark before the game....that's the stark reality! Bad weekend at office all round, hurlers hammered and minors mauled.
We were beat by 4 points and Louth had a fairly late goal. Is "hammered" a bit strong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 20, 2022, 11:39:34 PM
Nope, BS is totally correct. We're were outplayed and out thought in every line of the pitch, score line really flatters us. Wide open at the back, Ricky hung out to dry, Louth should have had 2 goals in the first 5 minutes. I don't get why we didn't play the same system as our other games. Mick dropping in front of the D , killing that space and then starting our attacks from deep. Mick played as an orthodox mid fielder and we didn't have any cover for the full back line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on March 21, 2022, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 20, 2022, 09:02:36 PM
Every team (in any sport) can have an off day, and today was exactly that. We were hammered today, make no mistake about that. Very few players can look in the mirror tonight and say they did well, ironically a few who can were some of the first to be taken off! There were a few who got the full tenure (yet again) and I've no idea how they managed to get full game time.

Today was as poor as I can recall. I was hoping to be able to post something much more positive, but if we are going to call a spade a spade, we have no place in division two on today's performance.

Louth looked like a well drilled team today, we were the exact opposite. We looked like we had met up in the carpark before the game....that's the stark reality! Bad weekend at office all round, hurlers hammered and minors mauled.

Correct Bannside. Outplayed in almost all sectors. Aside from Kevin Small, the players introduced looked out of their depth at this level.  One of our most effective forwards (and has been for the past couple years) taken off when we needed scores. One of out least effective forwards (and same for last couple of years) remains on for the full duration.  Great that we are in a position to push for promotion, but we have not moved forward as massively as some on here think. When it comes to the crunch games we seem to revert to old habits. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
There's a time for giving fellas their senior debuts, but usually it's the Mc Kenna cup and not the last ten minutes of a vital game. And when we need a goal (we didn't have time to rattle off 4 or 5 points) why the hell did we not stick Big Pat and Conor Murray in around the square, and land three or four on to top of them, with breaking ball winners Dermot or Ryan there to collect the scraps....hold on...those two had been most surprisingly  removed from play earlier!

Instead Pat finds himself out near the sideline in the middle third any time he was on the ball. I mean...this is basic stuff we are talking about.

This enduring loyalty to certain players who are consistently underperforming needs to end, and fast...in defence as well as attack, if management want to retain their integrity and support of the majority who can see through this. I'm putting that out there because only a few were seeing it in the earlier rounds, but now everyone is talking about it.

Hopefully we can bounce back on Sunday with a win to finish off the campaign and send supporters home thinking that whether we do enough now to go up or not, that at least our progress curve is still intact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 21, 2022, 09:29:12 AM
Surely if Antrim win on Sunday and Fermanagh also win we are up? Is this not the case?
Sounded like a bad day at the office all round listening to the (biased) radio commentary. We have had a good campaign no matter what but for me the state of our underage teams and the hammerings we are shipping weekly is a much more pressing matter. Until this changes anything happening at senior level wont be sustainable for long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 21, 2022, 09:44:46 AM
Totally right EOC, our good run at senior level is only papering over the cracks. Minor has been very poor for a very long time, a few decent teams in the last 30+ plus years, but no minor title since 82. U20 or u21 is exactly the same. U20 are away to Derry in the championship on Friday week, if they get within 10 points of this Derry team that will be a good result for this group, thats just the reality of where we are at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 21, 2022, 09:54:29 AM
Didn't play well yet dug in and beaten by four.  Louth fully deserved their win but think its a bit harsh to suddenly be trashing the management when we are greatly exceeding our expectations in Div 3.  To be in this position with promotion to play for on the last day is to be commended.    We all have our opinions on football and the personnel on the pitch  - a case in point is that i personally don't agree that in todays age of football, aimlessly lumping a ball into the square like in the 1970s is the way to go as some others here believe. 

We wanted progress, and we have got it.  Don't let the allure of Div 2 tarnish the goodwill and support the team have been getting lately.

As a side note, Div 2 looks like different gravy compared to Div 3.   A chasm between the 2.  Be careful what you wish for.
Whatever happens next week, good or bad, Antrim have a big off-season to be ready for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on March 21, 2022, 10:13:56 AM
Ah bannside is as see through as a bang of auld air. When his son was on the panel with Lenny he gave them his full backing. And I watched that team play some shite permanently in D4. The common denominator in his criticism of yesterday isn't Lenny.  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 10:23:20 AM
DK you're entitled to your opinion but I have been going to Antrim games home and away for a long time and have to say yesterday was as flat and lethargic a performance as I have seen. Hopefully it was just a bad day at the office, but please call it as it is and stop trying to play the man here and not the content. Were you at the game? What is your opinion, happy enough with that?

I'd say you're one of those who only go to county matches because you've a relation on the pitch. If you were even there at all.

Since your derisory comment about Portglenone being chokers, a few days before your club threw away a seven point lead in Ulster Club you lost a lot of credibility here.....Especially after you went into hiding for a month after. I know it's a bit belated, but would you care to comment about that, or wish to withdraw any allegations about chokers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2022, 10:51:37 AM
Relax lads. We are falling out with each other very early on this year. It's usually about May/June before the fall outs start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2022, 10:53:38 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 21, 2022, 10:51:37 AM
Relax lads. We are falling out with each other very early on this year. It's usually about May/June before the fall outs start.

Or depending on which games I'm covering  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 21, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on March 16, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
Cavan giving it the big un but they won't even bring a big crowd anyway. Corrigan big enough and the rightful venue.

Cavan always bring a big crowd, you can bet there will be a scramble for tickets as there simply won't be enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
On another note entirely congratulations to BC on what, as far as I know, is wolfe tones first points ever in the league?? (It is isn't it?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 21, 2022, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: ck on March 17, 2022, 10:41:37 PM

Cavan don't deserve a single ticket after trying to pull a stunt like that. Glad fairness prevailed and the money argument was diminished.
All of that aside it should be a cracking match. Both teams going well in the lower divisions and this game is a realistic win for both.

What are you talking about? So someone in the Cavan setup did that, but you don't want ordinary folk to get tickets? Don't be so silly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:18:25 AM
Cancel culture is alive and well on this thread  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2022, 11:32:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:18:25 AM
Cancel culture is alive and well on this thread  ;D

Reported
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2022, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
On another note entirely congratulations to BC on what, as far as I know, is wolfe tones first points ever in the league?? (It is isn't it?)

Not sure what happened back in the 60's but certainly the first points of the new club. A bit hoarse today but enjoying seeing them building themselves up. For a club that didn't exist 3 years ago they've fairly built a good solid basis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 21, 2022, 12:31:52 PM
what about that other new club that started last year in North Belfast? Have heard anything about them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on March 21, 2022, 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2022, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
On another note entirely congratulations to BC on what, as far as I know, is wolfe tones first points ever in the league?? (It is isn't it?)

Not sure what happened back in the 60's but certainly the first points of the new club. A bit hoarse today but enjoying seeing them building themselves up. For a club that didn't exist 3 years ago they've fairly built a good solid basis

Local club to me, father of "she who must be obeyed" played for them in 60's and up to they folded in the 70's. He was also the club secretary or Antrim representative at meetings, he showed me the notebooks recording everything of that time. He was presented with a jersey from the new formed club and got choked up about it. He's proud of what they're doing and would go watch the odd match still.
Have been to some of their training sessions and friendly matches, they are going well, lots of numbers, lots of ladies footballers as well, hope they keep at it. North Belfast is too big an area for just 3 clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on March 21, 2022, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 21, 2022, 12:31:52 PM
what about that other new club that started last year in North Belfast? Have heard anything about them

Henry Joy's

From what I have heard all is not well there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2022, 12:33:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2022, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
On another note entirely congratulations to BC on what, as far as I know, is wolfe tones first points ever in the league?? (It is isn't it?)

Not sure what happened back in the 60's but certainly the first points of the new club. A bit hoarse today but enjoying seeing them building themselves up. For a club that didn't exist 3 years ago they've fairly built a good solid basis

They'd be my local club, well local for the past 22 years, are you playing at Jordanstown or the Valley?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2022, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2022, 12:33:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2022, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 11:13:14 AM
On another note entirely congratulations to BC on what, as far as I know, is wolfe tones first points ever in the league?? (It is isn't it?)

Not sure what happened back in the 60's but certainly the first points of the new club. A bit hoarse today but enjoying seeing them building themselves up. For a club that didn't exist 3 years ago they've fairly built a good solid basis

They'd be my local club, well local for the past 22 years, are you playing at Jordanstown or the Valley?

I'm the Valley which can be a pain in the hole but will do for now. We have put in 3 decent performances so far, though i missed one due to the Covid.  It's an achievement to be fielding nevermind winning games. Nice mix too of locals and hallions from the country.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2022, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
There's a time for giving fellas their senior debuts, but usually it's the Mc Kenna cup and not the last ten minutes of a vital game. And when we need a goal (we didn't have time to rattle off 4 or 5 points) why the hell did we not stick Big Pat and Conor Murray in around the square, and land three or four on to top of them, with breaking ball winners Dermot or Ryan there to collect the scraps....hold on...those two had been most surprisingly  removed from play earlier!

Instead Pat finds himself out near the sideline in the middle third any time he was on the ball. I mean...this is basic stuff we are talking about.

This enduring loyalty to certain players who are consistently underperforming needs to end, and fast...in defence as well as attack, if management want to retain their integrity and support of the majority who can see through this. I'm putting that out there because only a few were seeing it in the earlier rounds, but now everyone is talking about it.

Hopefully we can bounce back on Sunday with a win to finish off the campaign and send supporters home thinking that whether we do enough now to go up or not, that at least our progress curve is still intact.

Jeez BS  you really are s man of many colours and it was huge praise for Mc Ginley and his men one day to wielding a big shovel the next.
So management was poor yesterday and wrong decisions made with replacements out of their depth.

Have you forgotten the same management pulled us out of the basement and to the cusp of division two.?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 01:50:54 PM
It is good to see BC and you need to start somewhere. That division can be a good place to start from especially given the likes of Laochra Lao are not long started. I used to play reserves in those divisions and Lisburn were in it in those days and were at a low ebb but if you look at them now they have won the junior championship so have come on leaps and bounds. The same could be said for the likes of Antrim town too. Definitely massive improvements in all those teams which is great to see. (I must confess I don't know when those two teams started mind you but they were definitely in a place where they were at the bottom and to credit them they have really worked their way up).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 21, 2022, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 01:50:54 PM
It is good to see BC and you need to start somewhere. That division can be a good place to start from especially given the likes of Laochra Lao are not long started. I used to play reserves in those divisions and Lisburn were in it in those days and were at a low ebb but if you look at them now they have won the junior championship so have come on leaps and bounds. The same could be said for the likes of Antrim town too. Definitely massive improvements in all those teams which is great to see. (I must confess I don't know when those two teams started mind you but they were definitely in a place where they were at the bottom and to credit them they have really worked their way up).

Laochra are a good template for us. They have been building as a club since 2005 when they started playing in the Gaeltacht competitions. They played in that for about 10 years before entering competitions in Antrim from what I understand. They have a strong solid base now and are going from strength to strength. We had a choice this year to stick it out in South Antrim for another while or take the plunge and go to Division 3. We accept we will get a few trimmings but if we are able to win 1-2 more games on top of yesterday that's success in my opinion. Anything over that is bonus territory. We have lads playing who never played senior adult football before. There's lads playing for the likes of St Galls 3rds who have county senior medals. Game by game and not get carried away. That's all I want
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 02:43:19 PM
Longford was sublime and was given all the plaudits for such. Louth match called out for what it was, a poor tame effort with nothing to like about it.

Were you in Ardee CB? I suspect not. If you were you would have had great trouble disagreeing with me! My views are consistent with every Antrim supporter I met yesterday. And our management are big enough to know that too.

If we go to sublime again on Sunday, let's acknowledge that. Nothing to do with colours or management bashing. Just call it for what it is!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2022, 03:22:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 02:43:19 PM
Longford was sublime and was given all the plaudits for such. Louth match called out for what it was, a poor tame effort with nothing to like about it.

Were you in Ardee CB? I suspect not. If you were you would have had great trouble disagreeing with me! My views are consistent with every Antrim supporter I met yesterday. And our management are big enough to know that too.

If we go to sublime again on Sunday, let's acknowledge that. Nothing to do with colours or management bashing. Just call it for what it is!
Was not at Agree BS, had business at home but am safe in the knowledge that we are not brimming over with talent in our county.
Safe to say that Cargin and Creggan are away ahead of the pack and they provide around 50% of the start team

Having started the year as hugely critical of management you did screech to a halt before back on the negative

You say some on the start 15 yesterday should have been ditched but went on to suggest replacements made were wrong and they were not fit for purpose.

Has the current management ignored talented individuals within our county?

Jeez we are making no headway within and for the life of me having covered games aplenty for the life of me cannot see the talented individuals ignored....can you..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 04:26:30 PM
Hold on a bit here before you go further on this CB. I said the substitutions were wrong at the time because some of those getting the curly finger were doing well and some of those getting full tenure had hardly got going at all..the views strongly shared by the Antrim supporters around me! As I say if you'de been there you wouldn't be disagreeing with me on this particular point.

You bang on about the sheer dominance of Cargin and Creggan players being miles ahead. That record is getting very tired at this stage, even if Endas first panel last year had 2O players from those combined parishes.

The majority of the counties best players are in that squad, but definitely not all. But that's current managements choice, as is their match day selection, tactics etc. Some days they get it right, yesterday was all wrong, so instead of dwelling on it, or even having the audacity to debate that point because you weren't there to see or, focus must be on getting it right on Sunday and hoping Fermanagh do us a favour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2022, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 04:26:30 PM
Hold on a bit here before you go further on this CB. I said the substitutions were wrong at the time because some of those getting the curly finger were doing well and some of those getting full tenure had hardly got going at all..the views strongly shared by the Antrim supporters around me! As I say if you'de been there you wouldn't be disagreeing with me on this particular point.

You bang on about the sheer dominance of Cargin and Creggan players being miles ahead. That record is getting very tired at this stage, even if Endas first panel last year had 2O players from those combined parishes.

The majority of the counties best players are in that squad, but definitely not all. But that's current managements choice, as is their match day selection, tactics etc. Some days they get it right, yesterday was all wrong, so instead of dwelling on it, or even having the audacity to debate that point because you weren't there to see or, focus must be on getting it right on Sunday and hoping Fermanagh do us a favour.

Well BS you remain a huge critic of the present regime when it suits.
But be brave enough to tel just who are the personnel who should be on the current team.

Will pass such info to current management....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 21, 2022, 04:47:13 PM
Lets be clear, there are no undiscovered David Cliffords playing in Antrim.  A couple of players may not be in the squad but arguable they are on a par at best with what is already there.  Either the management thought they were not good enough, they stepped away as a choice, or they wouldn't buy into the management's expectations. Either way, there is no Superman waiting on the sidelines.

The current management have delivered improvement in their first two years. That is all we asked for.   We are punching above our weight at the moment and have at least 2 hard pre-seasons ahead of us to gain the required minimum physique across the entire squad that is expected of a Div 2 side.   We have a chance of an ulster championship upset but are decidedly the underdogs.

They didn't play well yesterday and got the result they deserved.   If we were offered the hope of promotion on the last day at the start of the season we'd have taken it. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 21, 2022, 05:03:36 PM
Spot on Spike. We played really badly yesterday, thats history now, lads know that, now everyone justs picks themselves up and go at next Sunday like its the championship final. Kevin small should e fit to start on Sunday coming and that should give Mick more scope to influence the game. Louth are a serious team btw, i didnt get a programme so not sure about names but the 8, 10 and 14 were outstanding and Mulroy was a class above that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 05:05:37 PM
Spike that's fair comment. There are no superstars for sure, and we would have taken mid div 3 placing at the start of the year. But given a chance at promotion, great day for football, large crowd, we completely fluffed our lines.

Today's IN match report agrees. It says Louth were a different animal. It says Antrim left with nothing but regrets. The performance was as weak as water and management and players must take responsibility for that.

But to add balance, players like the training and set up. Has Mc Ginley & Co brought us on. I'd say yes. But has he made more progress than Harte and Horse Devlin - given that we beat them in this fixture last year. If that was the acid test, we failed it miserably!

Sunday is a chance to change that narrative..as it stands we can still go up and Louth may not. And 9 points would indeed be a decent return for efforts regardless of final placings.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 05:57:24 PM
Harte is a hugely experienced manager and McGinley is still learning and doing  great job so probably a touch unfair comparing the two!! Disappointing to lose that yes and probably more disappointing to know we lost it well but hopefully we can improve against westmeath.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2022, 06:20:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 05:05:37 PM
Spike that's fair comment. There are no superstars for sure, and we would have taken mid div 3 placing at the start of the year. But given a chance at promotion, great day for football, large crowd, we completely fluffed our lines.

Today's IN match report agrees. It says Louth were a different animal. It says Antrim left with nothing but regrets. The performance was as weak as water and management and players must take responsibility for that.

But to add balance, players like the training and set up. Has Mc Ginley & Co brought us on. I'd say yes. But has he made more progress than Harte and Horse Devlin - given that we beat them in this fixture last year. If that was the acid test, we failed it miserably!

Sunday is a chance to change that narrative..as it stands we can still go up and Louth may not. And 9 points would indeed be a decent return for efforts regardless of final placings.
So you have no message for Enda as to those gifted players he left out BS....

He will be disappointed....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 06:21:12 PM
Hopefully ITG. It's well known that a manager will find out more about his players in a bad defeat than we will pick up in an easy victory. Enda still learning his trade and may well get there in time. Harte and possibly Gavin Devlin had Louth at a different pitch yesterday. It happens, a typical season in club or county will have its share of peaks and troughs.

It's the bounce back factor we need, so happy to close down on the negatives and hopefully we will be smiling on Sunday evening. I do believe Fermanagh can pull off a result for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 06:23:25 PM
Enda has more than enough advisors already from your part of the world, you know, the part that's miles better than the rest. Too many advisors perhaps. But you keep flying your wee green flag there. Cargin seconds for Ulster!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 21, 2022, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 06:23:25 PM
Enda has more than enough advisors already from your part of the world, you know, the part that's miles better than the rest. Too many advisors perhaps. But you keep flying your wee green flag there. Cargin seconds for Ulster!
You're letting yourself down there BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 06:29:14 PM
No I didnt. I admire Cargin and their consistency over the years. It's the condescending attitude from CB I find distasteful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
On the topic of Louth management team I read one of the Louth players say Devlin was the best man manager he had ever encountered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2022, 06:45:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 06:29:14 PM
No I didnt. I admire Cargin and their consistency over the years. It's the condescending attitude from CB I find distasteful.
Jeez, as if I would dare to patronize your good self....
Make up your Ming BS....one minute you are putting the boot into Mc Ginley, and then a little back tracking..

If you really want to help your county out you could at least reveal the name of those prospective county players so the management can take a look.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2022, 07:21:43 PM
I don't believe this is a good place for that exercise CB. For a start the players themselves wouldn't want their merits of otherwise being debated by a bunch of touchscreen experts.

I made my point re yesterday. Straight away the Green brigade were out in force. Enda will know more than anyone how poor it was. He will be agreeing with most of what I'm saying for God's sake. If not we have a bigger problem, because we are relying on him to see these things!

There has been some excellent performances this year. I expect a response come Sunday to restore pride. If and when that happens, due acknowledgement will follow. Call it as it is.

As EOC says, we have bigger problems coming down the tracks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2022, 07:26:46 PM
It's funny how it's ok to criticise some things but not other things, anyways

Haven't seen Antrim outside of home so can't comment on this game, Limerick and Louth did a number on us this year and got their game plan right, Longford are in free fall it seems,  the Fermanagh game really gave us a great 2 points, hopefully Fermanagh can edge out Limerick and if we manage to beat Westmeath we'll go up.

As for the gulf between div 2 and 3 that wouldn't worry me, preparing for that level is what the managers job is to do. Mickey Harte seems happy enough to move his team straight up.

Did anyone find out about the championship draws?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 22, 2022, 09:34:56 AM
I'm sure everyone agrees that McGinley has done a great job since taking the reins. That doesn't make him immune to fair and valid criticism after a terrible performance.

In any case, until our underage player development is sorted out we are only papering over the cracks. Does anyone know what our Director of Football has been up to? Or what his plans are?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 22, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2022, 09:34:56 AM
I'm sure everyone agrees that McGinley has done a great job since taking the reins. That doesn't make him immune to fair and valid criticism after a terrible performance.

In any case, until our underage player development is sorted out we are only papering over the cracks. Does anyone know what our Director of Football has been up to? Or what his plans are?

Of course you are quite correct all managers are fair game for constructive comments but are not fair game to have individuals cast stones from the sideline, citing the retention of players who were past sell by date, insinuating favouritism.
Nor indeed for replacements made not as some onlookers consider wrong at the time or occasion.

The current management have taken us out of the basement and to the cusp of the next level.
It has been suggested he has missed, by accident or design, lads who should be in the Saffron.
Been about awhile cannot figure out who has been left out...by choice rather than those individuals who decided not to answer the call.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on March 22, 2022, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2022, 07:26:46 PM
It's funny how it's ok to criticise some things but not other things, anyways

Haven't seen Antrim outside of home so can't comment on this game, Limerick and Louth did a number on us this year and got their game plan right, Longford are in free fall it seems,  the Fermanagh game really gave us a great 2 points, hopefully Fermanagh can edge out Limerick and if we manage to beat Westmeath we'll go up.

As for the gulf between div 2 and 3 that wouldn't worry me, preparing for that level is what the managers job is to do. Mickey Harte seems happy enough to move his team straight up.

Did anyone find out about the championship draws?  ;)

Or promotion/ relegation in the leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 22, 2022, 09:55:39 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2022, 09:34:56 AM
I'm sure everyone agrees that McGinley has done a great job since taking the reins. That doesn't make him immune to fair and valid criticism after a terrible performance.

In any case, until our underage player development is sorted out we are only papering over the cracks. Does anyone know what our Director of Football has been up to? Or what his plans are?

Of course you are quite correct all managers are fair game for constructive comments but are not fair game to have individuals cast stones from the sideline, citing the retention of players who were past sell by date, insinuating favouritism.
Nor indeed for replacements made not as some onlookers consider wrong at the time or occasion.

The current management have taken us out of the basement and to the cusp of the next level.
It has been suggested he has missed, by accident or design, lads who should be in the Saffron.
Been about awhile cannot figure out who has been left out...by choice rather than those individuals who decided not to answer the call.

You should apply this mantra for all things, but prefer to suit your own agenda and cast stones when you feel its ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2022, 11:39:46 AM
Just as a matter of interest, who has made reference to age or players past their sell by dates. Mick, Ricky, James, Conor all going well and playing on merit despite being on wrong side of 30.

What are you talking about CB? 

Just when Antrim finally got their second wind two of their best players were replaced, not only in my opinion, but of those Antrim supporters around me. Yet several players got to see the game out despite being exceptionally quiet throughout.

Is it not ok to raise this here....or is this the type of thing we cant mention without the faux outrage team kicking in?

Credit should be given (and is) when it's due, and likewise constructive criticism should be welcomed where appropriate.

Last Sunday has passed, bad day at office, let's get the show back in the road for Westmeath. That's my last comment on this matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 22, 2022, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 22, 2022, 11:39:46 AM
Just as a matter of interest, who has made reference to age or players past their sell by dates. Mick, Ricky, James, Conor all going well and playing on merit despite being on wrong side of 30.

What are you talking about CB? 

Just when Antrim finally got their second wind two of their best players were replaced, not only in my opinion, but of those Antrim supporters around me. Yet several players got to see the game out despite being exceptionally quiet throughout.

Is it not ok to raise this here....or is this the type of thing we cant mention without the faux outrage team kicking in?

Credit should be given (and is) when it's due, and likewise constructive criticism should be welcomed where appropriate.

Last Sunday has passed, bad day at office, let's get the show back in the road for Westmeath. That's my last comment on this matter.

"The enduring loyalty to certain players who are consistently underperforming needs to end -and fast if management want to retain their integrity and support of the majority who can see through this"

Wonder who made such comment......and just what was the suggestion made....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 22, 2022, 02:39:53 PM
CB, nowhere did I make a comment about players being too old or past sell by date. Just need to put that right and as I said said move on here, made my point which is about performance on match days,  nothing to do with age!

Some agree,  others think I'm having a cheap pop at management - that's ok, it's a discussion forum. You'll find I consistently give credit where it's due!

It looks like I touched a raw nerve here all the same!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 22, 2022, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 22, 2022, 02:39:53 PM
CB, nowhere did I make a comment about players being too old or past sell by date. Just need to put that right and as I said said move on here, made my point which is about performance on match days,  nothing to do with age!

Some agree,  others think I'm having a cheap pop at management - that's ok, it's a discussion forum. You'll find I consistently give credit where it's due!

It looks like I touched a raw nerve here all the same!!!
Do know management and county players do peruse this site,and they can make their own minds up.

Have received a few comments thereon....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2022, 02:58:21 PM
That's you banned form Corrigan Bannside, tut tut

It feels a bit like Putin's Russia on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 22, 2022, 03:15:15 PM
Jesus as an outsider yis are some craic is alls ill say 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 22, 2022, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on March 22, 2022, 03:15:15 PM
Jesus as an outsider yis are some craic is alls ill say 😃

Indeed the craic is mighty here....and no need to stray from.home.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 23, 2022, 09:25:23 AM
Bannside is 100% correct. He has called out good performances when they happened and Sunday was far from a good performance, always best to say it like it is. Louth were on a different level to Antrim. The next 2 games for Antrim will define the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 23, 2022, 09:43:57 AM
From my experience of the thread, I have to say bannside is as fair as it comes with both praise (which is more often than not) and also criticism. I would also ask the question why those 2 lads were withdrawn? Perhaps it is a case of the increasingly common 'red zone' flagging up on live GPS feedback from the sideline? I'm only guessing, but I'd be disappointed if that were the case and a bit more of a gamble taken leaving them on, or even altering their positions, in such a big game to give the team the best chance possible to get over the line.
That being said, I would question your 'This enduring loyalty to certain players who are consistently underperforming needs to end' comment BS? I don't agree that there has been anyone given regular game time this year, unlike previous seasons' who have regularly been below par.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 23, 2022, 10:04:54 AM
I agree Natsosaff, I got to two of the games and the quality of player on the pitch is way up on what was there under Lenny, no longer could we say 'such and such wouldn't make a good club team'.  I recall Antrim playing Tyrone a couple of years ago and there were several in this category who got game time.
Lets hope the weekend works out, you never know we could be in Division 2, I wouldn't rule out a Fermanagh win and if we do our bit we're up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2022, 12:00:17 PM
Maybe I was a bit strong in my criticism at the weekend and apologise in particular for questioning Endas integrity. I've no doubt he is there for all the right reasons and has no agenda other than producing Antrim to do well.

I maybe could have worded things differently because I know I hit a raw nerve that's for sure. The principle of my point remains though - why take off two or three players who are obviously going well in a game. And not take off others who are noticably contributing little or nothing! As a level two football coach with plenty of relevant experience I have to say I found that strange to say the least.

There's no easy way to make that point, then you take in personalities and relationships which further complicate things. No one wants to go there, we would all rather be talking about great displays and individual performances and continuing progression curves.

If we get two points on Sunday we all admit it's been another good campaign overall. If we don't, well I suppose most on here would have settled for mid table at the start of the year and another season to continue the build.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 23, 2022, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 23, 2022, 12:00:17 PM
Maybe I was a bit strong in my criticism at the weekend and apologise in particular for questioning Endas integrity. I've no doubt he is there for all the right reasons and has no agenda other than producing Antrim to do well.

I maybe could have worded things differently because I know I hit a raw nerve that's for sure. The principle of my point remains though - why take off two or three players who are obviously going well in a game. And not take off others who are noticably contributing little or nothing! As a level two football coach with plenty of relevant experience I have to say I found that strange to say the least.

There's no easy way to make that point, then you take in personalities and relationships which further complicate things. No one wants to go there, we would all rather be talking about great displays and individual performances and continuing progression curves.

If we get two points on Sunday we all admit it's been another good campaign overall. If we don't, well I suppose most on here would have settled for mid table at the start of the year and another
season to continue the build.

If your 'raw nerve' comment is pointed at me Bannside indeed your swerve from the topic in discussion to have have a couple of swipes at Cargin was much anticipated....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 23, 2022, 02:10:28 PM
The disappointing thing for me was that Louth was the classic game to test our mentality - are we still the old fragile Antrim, or have McGinley and O'Neill managed to transfer some of their winning mentality to our lads.  It seems it was same old same old.  A bit like Conte trying to lift Spurs.  They'll earn their corn now as managers if they can get the squad to be honest about this mentality - have some players settled for Div 3 survival, maybe they don't want to go up to Div 2 yet?  Not a Tyrone mentality, but could be an Antrim player mentality deep down.  I'd love to see them crack it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 23, 2022, 02:24:34 PM
Another factor here which no one seems to consider... Louth have progressed really well under Harte / Devlin and are possibly just better than us. That doesn't mean we haven't progressed. I think BS is getting more bad press than he deserves on this  BTW :P There are too many personal gripes creeping into this page sometimes.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2022, 02:39:28 PM
A year ago I had the good fortune to practically sneak into our game against Louth last year, and witness the first of three amazing comebacks (last kick if the ball winning scores) but drive home that day setting a barometer that if in a years time our progress was better than Louths I would be happy. To me both counties were starting off around the same level. In fact Lenny's Antrim beat Louth quite handily the year before in the qualifier.

Sadly the reverse was true. CB wasn't there to see what we are taking about...it wasn't pretty, and we played second fiddle for large parts of that game. The barometer I had set for myself failed - Louth were better all round than we were - so that was disappointing. 

Louth are still my barometer. Whether it's this year or next or the one after,  that's where I measure our success. That's not to say on Sunday night we won't go up in their place, it's possible. To do that we need everybody going well and everyone firing on all cylinders, but a repeat of the Longford form should leave us spot on. Here's hoping......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on March 23, 2022, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 21, 2022, 10:23:20 AM
DK you're entitled to your opinion but I have been going to Antrim games home and away for a long time and have to say yesterday was as flat and lethargic a performance as I have seen. Hopefully it was just a bad day at the office, but please call it as it is and stop trying to play the man here and not the content. Were you at the game? What is your opinion, happy enough with that?

I'd say you're one of those who only go to county matches because you've a relation on the pitch. If you were even there at all.

Since your derisory comment about Portglenone being chokers, a few days before your club threw away a seven point lead in Ulster Club you lost a lot of credibility here.....Especially after you went into hiding for a month after. I know it's a bit belated, but would you care to comment about that, or wish to withdraw any allegations about chokers?

Amazing how you conveniently forgot to say how we came from 6 down against three in a row Cargin to win the semi final. brain freeze ?
Don't bare a grudge when a manager doesn't think a player isn't good enough and then leaves as he doesn't fancy a scrap for his place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 23, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
I didn't make the comment about chokers. You did . Then you choked from a massive height a few days later. Clown. Did your brain freeze over when you went into hiding for a month. Pride came before your fall, so suck it up lad!

Re my son. Don't you be assuming anything unless you want to be man enough to say who your boy wonder is? Niall had opportunity to go back, decided to stay and help kick things on around the club. His call, no one else's. Still one of the best defenders in the county and owes no one anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2022, 07:40:50 PM
Some craic here, I'll be wearing the Fermanagh top this weekend! Hopefully the umpires give them a few calls in their favour this week!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 23, 2022, 08:44:23 PM
U country boys need to calm down its only pre season thats championship level banter!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 23, 2022, 08:48:03 PM
Football leagues are early in the twilight zone .........

6.45 start time Wed 30th....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 24, 2022, 09:01:57 AM
All for a bit of craic but maybe leave the family comments out of it...

A quick glance through Dunsilly King's posts tells you all you need to know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 24, 2022, 09:57:53 AM
This discussion since Sunday has been pretty unsightly, from DK mentioning BS family connections to a clearly rattled BS mentioning the county senior team managers family connections. Leave it out lads, air your opinions without getting personal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 24, 2022, 10:17:35 AM
here here, plenty going on over the next few weeks to get stuck in to enough healthy debate and ribbing without getting personal. Hopefully the upturn in the weather and promotion (or at least a good win) at the weekend lifts everyone's mood  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2022, 11:56:18 AM
Was watching our county under 20s for the third time this season the other night in a challenge game and they are moving fairly well albeit they were playing a mixture of our seniors and reserves. Hopefully they can go to Owenbeg and be competitive at least when they face Derry in the U 20 championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 24, 2022, 03:06:25 PM
Didnt get the match the other night BS, lad said they played well, they have been putting in a huge effort at training so hopefully starting to pay off a bit. A very tough ask against a formidable Derry team next week. Think we are defensively sound, midfield is going well, just don't know where we are going to get scores from, we really struggle up front.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2022, 04:55:39 PM
I likes the way they moved.. definitely moving the ball a bit quicker, not carrying as many balls into tackles, that kind of stuff..you can see fitness levels up since Tyrone and Down games.

Sean Duffin adds a bit of punch to the attack, and Tom Shivers and Benen Kelly in the mix now too after College exploits. You'de be hoping for a performance out of them at least, will definitely plan to go to that. A sub I liked against Down played the while match too, and I liked the cut of him again. Might be from St Galls I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 08:26:53 AM
So massive game on Sunday, anyone who was at the Louth game, would you make any changes from the team?
Strange how we have followed up our 2 best performances with our 2 worst, Fermanagh-Limerick then Longford -Louth??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 25, 2022, 09:29:53 AM
I would like to see Jamie Gribben back in half forward and Paddy McCormick in defence. Perhaps there are injury issues with those lads? Hopefully there is close to a clean bill of health in the squad. If not and one or two others get a bit of action before championship would it be the worst thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2022, 09:56:02 AM
Personally I'd love to see Paddy Mc Cormack Ricky and Peter Healy as our first line of defence. All tried and tested in those positions, and genuine man markers. Maybe not doing Patrick any favours here because he can play anywhere, but I think it's really important to get two specialist corner backs in place and build from there.

Eoghan doing ok in there  to be fair - some good moments for sure, especially against Fermanagh where he was excellent. But other times he isn't as touch tight as I would like specialist stoppers to be. On that basis the other two would get my nod for CB berths, and no objection at all to Eoghan coming out to a HB or HF role with his natural forward looking style.

Jamie is class act NatsoSaff. Nailed on at 11 for me if he's fit to go. I'm sure plenty might disagree, all about opinions on a discussion forum, that's all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 25, 2022, 09:29:53 AM
I would like to see Jamie Gribben back in half forward and Paddy McCormick in defence. Perhaps there are injury issues with those lads? Hopefully there is close to a clean bill of health in the squad. If not and one or two others get a bit of action before championship would it be the worst thing?

Jamie G has endure injury and only back at training last night Safe....he has really excelled the 'fetch and deliver' role.
Won't start Sunday, but be well ready for next week....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 02:30:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2022, 09:56:02 AM
Personally I'd love to see Paddy Mc Cormack Ricky and Peter Healy as our first line of defence. All tried and tested in those positions, and genuine man markers. Maybe not doing Patrick any favours here because he can play anywhere, but I think it's really important to get two specialist corner backs in place and build from there.

Eoghan doing ok in there  to be fair - some good moments for sure, especially against Fermanagh where he was excellent. But other times he isn't as touch tight as I would like specialist stoppers to be. On that basis the other two would get my nod for CB berths, and no objection at all to Eoghan coming out to a HB or HF role with his natural forward looking style.

Jamie is class act NatsoSaff. Nailed on at 11 for me if he's fit to go. I'm sure plenty might disagree, all about opinions on a discussion forum, that's all!
PMcC a good wee footballer BS but I would say I have seen him play as much if not more than you and I can safely say he is not a specialist corner back. That is my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 25, 2022, 03:01:39 PM
oh oh...here we go again! lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
Would you by any chance EOC have seen him in a full league programme in 2019 under Lenny. Slotted into corner back with ease and was in all probability Antrims player of the year. If you saw those games and still have the same opinion fair enough, but I doubt if you were going to those matches back then. And certainly not the away fixtures. Paddy would only have been 21 then but a great age now in around 24.

In any event it's nothing personal for or against, just an opinion on a discussion forum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
Would you by any chance EOC have seen him in a full league programme in 2019 under Lenny. Slotted into corner back with ease and was in all probability Antrims player of the year. If you saw those games and still have the same opinion fair enough, but I doubt if you were going to those matches back then. And certainly not the away fixtures. Paddy would only have been 21 then but a great age now in around 24.

In any event it's nothing personal for or against, just an opinion on a discussion forum.
No Bannside I didn't watch much of the tripe served up under Lenny
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 04:17:51 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
Would you by any chance EOC have seen him in a full league programme in 2019 under Lenny. Slotted into corner back with ease and was in all probability Antrims player of the year. If you saw those games and still have the same opinion fair enough, but I doubt if you were going to those matches back then. And certainly not the away fixtures. Paddy would only have been 21 then but a great age now in around 24.

In any event it's nothing personal for or against, just an opinion on a discussion forum.
No Bannside I didn't watch much of the tripe served up under Lenny

Classy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 25, 2022, 04:35:05 PM
Definitely a bit harsh EOC. So you definitely arnt in a position to judge PMC at county level in CB. I will guarantee you I could go back to that league campaign and chase up half a dozen games where no one on here at the time was disagreeing with MOM plaudits that Paddy was getting.  As I say, probably player of the year at CB in his debut season.

Lenny was most unfortunate, had promotion momentum in his final season until Covid kicked in, peaking nicely in our 14 point hammering of top of the table unbeaten Limerick.

Let's not judge Lenny harshly lads, he didn't have lady luck with him at times, and a referee like we had against Leitrim that destroyed Antrim in a one point defeat in a freezing day in Carrick On Shannon that cost us promotion that year too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 04:17:51 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 25, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
Would you by any chance EOC have seen him in a full league programme in 2019 under Lenny. Slotted into corner back with ease and was in all probability Antrims player of the year. If you saw those games and still have the same opinion fair enough, but I doubt if you were going to those matches back then. And certainly not the away fixtures. Paddy would only have been 21 then but a great age now in around 24.

In any event it's nothing personal for or against, just an opinion on a discussion forum.
No Bannside I didn't watch much of the tripe served up under Lenny

Classy
Thought it was all about opinions on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 08:32:37 PM
You said he served up tripe. He managed to win an all Ireland with his club, some mangers can't even win a club game in their provincial... that's what I'd call tripe. As you say all about opinions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2022, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 08:32:37 PM
You said he served up tripe. He managed to win an all Ireland with his club, some mangers can't even win a club game in their provincial... that's what I'd call tripe. As you say all about opinions

In football terms - what's a manger?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2022, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 08:32:37 PM
You said he served up tripe. He managed to win an all Ireland with his club, some mangers can't even win a club game in their provincial... that's what I'd call tripe. As you say all about opinions

In football terms - what's a manger?

A manger is a trough from which cows or horses feed...HH
...no problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:18:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 08:32:37 PM
You said he served up tripe. He managed to win an all Ireland with his club, some mangers can't even win a club game in their provincial... that's what I'd call tripe. As you say all about opinions
Did Paddy McCormick play corner back for St Galls? Talking about his Antrim managerial career in Division 4  as you well know, but true to form you hark back to his St Galls days. Making a fool of yourself (again) MR2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:19:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2022, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 08:32:37 PM
You said he served up tripe. He managed to win an all Ireland with his club, some mangers can't even win a club game in their provincial... that's what I'd call tripe. As you say all about opinions

In football terms - what's a manger?

Someone who is able to get the team to buy into his vision, you can build a trough but if they cows don't want to eat/drink out of it then they'll starve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:18:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 08:32:37 PM
You said he served up tripe. He managed to win an all Ireland with his club, some mangers can't even win a club game in their provincial... that's what I'd call tripe. As you say all about opinions
Did Paddy McCormick play corner back for St Galls? Talking about his Antrim managerial career in Division 4  as you well know, but true to form you hark back to his St Galls days. Making a fool of yourself (again) MR2.

You called him tripe, your words, in Antrim at the time we'd no better manager but sure I'm all about making a fool of myself... let it go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:27:03 PM
Let what go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:30:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:27:03 PM
Let what go?

Your obvious annoyance..

So I'll ask again who else was proven in Antrim football to take the team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:38:14 PM
Was debating the merits of who should be corner back on Sunday with Bannside. Who should of beat Lenny to the Antrim job 4 years ago, I honestly don't give one. Him being the best candidate pre start doesn't mean he did a good job either does it? He did a poor job stayed in Division 4 during his tenure?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:43:59 PM
I wasn't debating it, you thought that having a cheap dig at Lenny was ok. All you had to say was I never seen him play for Antrim during that period,  big no it's beyond you to do that so let's have a dig at the manager.

Did you have a dig at your last club manager who was unable to get ya past the first round of Ulster and only score a couple in 30 minutes last years semi?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:46:31 PM
That's the second time in last few posts you mentioned our last manager, god you would nearly think you don't like him. I would never have guessed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 09:46:31 PM
That's the second time in last few posts you mentioned our last manager, god you would nearly think you don't like him. I would never have guessed

But ok for you to mention our (as in Antrim) last manager, it would be nearly like you didn't like him, I'd have never guessed that either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 10:12:52 PM
Before I get on to my own gripe, can I point out that Bannside is the most straight talking football man in PG1, if he thinks it he will say it, no hidden  agendas and also I think himself and any man who travel all over for county games deserve to be listened to.  Only has the good of Antrim football In his head ( aside from  casements, but I'm the same).
Just thinking about the club leagues and county players, not really equally stacked that for first three games we get johnnies, biddies and Randalstown, with respect teams we would beat any time. If we had Cargin  creggan LD minus county players we would have won those and then played previously mentioned teams later, I know it just the way the cookie crumbles and we will be probably be ok, but teams seeking promotion or avoiding relegation could suffer...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 10:18:54 PM
I have never met Or had any dealings with Antrims last manager, I just see his Antrim record, nothing personal with me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 10:12:52 PM
Before I get on to my own gripe, can I point out that Bannside is the most straight talking football man in PG1, if he thinks it he will say it, no hidden  agendas and also I think himself and any man who travel all over for county games deserve to be listened to.  Only has the good of Antrim football In his head ( aside from  casements, but I'm the same).
Just thinking about the club leagues and county players, not really equally stacked that for first three games we get johnnies, biddies and Randalstown, with respect teams we would beat any time. If we had Cargin  creggan LD minus county players we would have won those and then played previously mentioned teams later, I know it just the way the cookie crumbles and we will be probably be ok, but teams seeking promotion or avoiding relegation could suffer...

Don't get your point RC...

Are you saying you want games against teams who are without county players...?
Think you failed to beat Cargin last year, minus several so do you expect a better return this time.

I am more than sure that Cargin, have no longings to win another league title and likewise L D, Creggan, and the Johnnies have focus on another direction.

Don't understand what you mean.....sorry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 10:41:35 PM
Let's be realistic, no one cares who wins the league. Let's talk relegation, it would be better for a team who is fighting relegation to get the big guns first as they will have county players missing, that way those teams can build a platform and momentum to stay up. If they play the big teams later on they wouldn't have as much chance of winning points.
In fairness by my theory pg1 should win the league, as we haven't many missing, we probably won't but it was a stepping stone for Creggan. A league win was the first step to us getting to county finals in early 00s.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:15 PM
But continue to win league titles...

I'm not sure how dumb some people are but they still keep it coming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 10:47:28 PM
Didn't take MR2 long to make a useless comment, totally missing the mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:15 PM
But continue to win league titles...

I'm not sure how dumb some people are but they still keep it coming

???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 25, 2022, 10:53:06 PM
It is beyond me how MR2 is allowed by the powers that be to ref in SW it is obvious he has at best contempt for most of the top teams in that area and in all reality all out hate for Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 10:56:30 PM
Mr2 comment I just don't understand. Rc your comments ignore the fact that there are a couple of teams in div 1 well out of their depth, gorts and Ahoghill. Who the third team to be relegated this year is the more interesting question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2022, 10:58:46 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 10:47:28 PM
Didn't take MR2 long to make a useless comment, totally missing the mark.
I feel your pain
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:15 PM
But continue to win league titles...

I'm not sure how dumb some people are but they still keep it coming

That attitude all Culchies are stupid does hallmark your officiating on the pitch I'm afraid, and I do wonder how those who depend on your shedding such feelings can depend on you to do the right thing.

You seem arrogant in the extreme and have dislikes for some as unashamedly admitted in your remarks.

I do wonder how the people who despatch you to oficialdom do so with a healthy confidence...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 11:05:34 PM
CB mentioned teams that don't have longings to win the league but Cargin still continue to win leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 10:56:30 PM
Mr2 comment I just don't understand. Rc your comments ignore the fact that there are a couple of teams in div 1 well out of their depth, gorts and Ahoghill. Who the third team to be relegated this year is the more interesting question.
This is my point and there is no apparent answer to it.
Let's say you are a Gort Na Mona (those Ahoghill feckers always get out of it), at the start of the league you want the teams with all their county players out, build up your points then, at the same time Ahoghill could be playing teams around them, maybe Randalstown and Rossa, later in the year Ahoghill could play stronger teams with all county players back, long story short league and championship need to both add to promotion and relegation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 11:10:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:15 PM

This is by far the best comment I've ever read on this board and couldn't agree with it more!!!
But continue to win league titles...

I'm not sure how dumb some people are but they still keep it coming

That attitude all Culchies are stupid does hallmark your officiating on the pitch I'm afraid, and I do wonder how those who depend on your shedding such feelings can depend on you to do the right thing.

You seem arrogant in the extreme and have dislikes for some as unashamedly admitted in your remarks.

I do wonder how the people who despatch you to oficialdom do so with a healthy confidence...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 11:12:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:15 PM
But continue to win league titles...

I'm not sure how dumb some people are but they still keep it coming

That attitude all Culchies are stupid does hallmark your officiating on the pitch I'm afraid, and I do wonder how those who depend on your shedding such feelings can depend on you to do the right thing.

You seem arrogant in the extreme and have dislikes for some as unashamedly admitted in your remarks.

I do wonder how the people who despatch you to oficialdom do so with a healthy confidence...

No, your dumbness knows no bounds, maybe it's an age thing I don't know, I never labelled culchies dumb, you do a great job on that.

As for arrogance Christ! Letting on you have the ear of the county management is beyond a joke. Now you are questioning the officials (of which you have no respect for) on appointing games. You're a joke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 25, 2022, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 11:05:34 PM
CB mentioned teams that don't have longings to win the league but Cargin still continue to win leagues

Do cargin ever set out to win the league, absolutely not, never have actually, but if end up top so be it no big deal really, all about blooding youngsters and keeping our 2nds happy i guess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 25, 2022, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 11:05:34 PM
CB mentioned teams that don't have longings to win the league but Cargin still continue to win leagues

Do cargin ever set out to win the league, absolutely not, never have actually, but if end up top so be it no big deal really, all about blooding youngsters and keeping our 2nds happy i guess

Most set out to win something, if not, what's the point?  Some have a preference and some have a knack
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 10:56:30 PM
Mr2 comment I just don't understand. Rc your comments ignore the fact that there are a couple of teams in div 1 well out of their depth, gorts and Ahoghill. Who the third team to be relegated this year is the more interesting question.
This is my point and there is no apparent answer to it.
Let's say you are a Gort Na Mona (those Ahoghill feckers always get out of it), at the start of the league you want the teams with all their county players out, build up your points then, at the same time Ahoghill could be playing teams around them, maybe Randalstown and Rossa, later in the year Ahoghill could play stronger teams with all county players back, long story short league and championship need to both add to promotion and relegation

Right , get what you mean, but those 2 teams mentioned are well beyond the pale even playing teams without county men. Ahoghill have been living a charmed life in div1 for a while, can't see that being extended beyond this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 11:25:24 PM
In saying all that I'm not having a go at the county board, it's just bad luck for some!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 11:29:54 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 11:25:24 PM
In saying all that I'm not having a go at the county board, it's just bad luck for some!!

Right, what's with all the criptic stuff tonight....heads fried trying to figure out what's going on ....who mentioned county board and what happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 26, 2022, 08:08:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 11:12:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 25, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 10:43:15 PM
But continue to win league titles...

I'm not sure how dumb some people are but they still keep it coming

That attitude all Culchies are stupid does hallmark your officiating on the pitch I'm afraid, and I do wonder how those who depend on your shedding such feelings can depend on you to do the right thing.

You seem arrogant in the extreme and have dislikes for some as unashamedly admitted in your remarks.

I do wonder how the people who despatch you to oficialdom do so with a healthy confidence...

No, your dumbness knows no bounds, maybe it's an age thing I don't know, I never labelled culchies dumb, you do a great job on that.

As for arrogance Christ! Letting on you have the ear of the county management is beyond a joke. Now you are questioning the officials (of which you have no respect for) on appointing games. You're a joke

Indeed been educated on the Antrim road amongst your peers I learned early that the residents of the city regarded country dwellers as aliens, of lesser intellect, so your 'dumb' comment fits.

You have never learned the lesson of 'Ozymandias King of Kings".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 08:16:27 AM
The dumb part is directed to you, how you came up with me saying all culchies are dumb is you're own doing, (please point out where I posted that)  but sure whatever fits your agenda. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 08:25:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 25, 2022, 10:53:06 PM
It is beyond me how MR2 is allowed by the powers that be to ref in SW it is obvious he has at best contempt for most of the top teams in that area and in all reality all out hate for Cargin

Point out where I have this contempt for SW clubs? The paranoia is strong up there, to set the record straight, outside of my club I'm not fussed, that's generally how it works.

As for Cargin, brilliant club, high standards and great ability to produced championship teams consistently for many years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 26, 2022, 09:30:44 AM
Read through your previous posts you and everyone will have no problem identifying your contempt, but yeah you gaslight all you want terming it as paranoia

As for Cargin you think so highly of them that you tried your best to screw then a few years ago v LD, oh and it's no surprise it's either you or McDonald and now Parke who is appointed when LD play Cargin, remind me who drives round with the men who appoint the games and also happen to be LD men...........

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 08:25:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 25, 2022, 10:53:06 PM
It is beyond me how MR2 is allowed by the powers that be to ref in SW it is obvious he has at best contempt for most of the top teams in that area and in all reality all out hate for Cargin

Point out where I have this contempt for SW clubs? The paranoia is strong up there, to set the record straight, outside of my club I'm not fussed, that's generally how it works.

As for Cargin, brilliant club, high standards and great ability to produced championship teams consistently for many years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 26, 2022, 12:05:39 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 26, 2022, 09:30:44 AM
Read through your previous posts you and everyone will have no problem identifying your contempt, but yeah you gaslight all you want terming it as paranoia

As for Cargin you think so highly of them that you tried your best to screw then a few years ago v LD, oh and it's no surprise it's either you or McDonald and now Parke who is appointed when LD play Cargin, remind me who drives round with the men who appoint the games and also happen to be LD men...........

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 08:25:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 25, 2022, 10:53:06 PM
It is beyond me how MR2 is allowed by the powers that be to ref in SW it is obvious he has at best contempt for most of the top teams in that area and in all reality all out hate for Cargin

Point out where I have this contempt for SW clubs? The paranoia is strong up there, to set the record straight, outside of my club I'm not fussed, that's generally how it works.

As for Cargin, brilliant club, high standards and great ability to produced championship teams consistently for many years.


9 mins overtime in extra time was quite hard to believe, only one man knows the real reason why, thousands of others can attempt to hazard a guess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 12:41:57 PM
Jesus it's still sore. The clock never lies, boys cramping up, slow kick outs, substitutes, injuries just your general time wasting. Watch it back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 26, 2022, 12:56:51 PM
Slow kick out is not a reason in the rules to add time, carding the taker is the remedy there

quote author=Milltown Row2 link=topic=21.msg2111090#msg2111090 date=1648298517]
Jesus it's still sore. The clock never lies, boys cramping up, slow kick outs, substitutes, injuries just your general time wasting. Watch it back
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 26, 2022, 01:14:52 PM
All getting a bit personal again lads isn't it!?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 26, 2022, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 12:41:57 PM
Jesus it's still sore. The clock never lies, boys cramping up, slow kick outs, substitutes, injuries just your general time wasting. Watch it back

Fair to say its a good job Cargin won
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 26, 2022, 01:14:52 PM
All getting a bit personal again lads isn't it!?


Agree. Cop on lads ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2022, 06:57:26 PM
Yeah let's get back to fixing Gaelfest  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2022, 06:57:26 PM
Yeah let's get back to fixing Gaelfest  ;D

Shut up you 😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 26, 2022, 07:55:58 PM
Good win by hurlers today was great to see it, now can ballers get it right tomorrow and hope for a Fermanagh win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2022, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 26, 2022, 06:57:26 PM
Yeah let's get back to fixing Gaelfest  ;D

Shut up you 😂😂
but they have been in belfast too much recently and need to get out into the sticks 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2022, 09:56:59 PM
Wonder are their any changes afoot for starting and game time slots tomorrow? Declan Lynch must be due anytime soon, and we haven't seen anything yet of Eunan Walsh. I know they've been on the easy list but they would need to be seeing game time soon or this season will be over for them!

Good luck to all players and management - could we be smiling tomorrow at 4pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on March 26, 2022, 10:02:43 PM
Sent a few PM's to select posters regarding the standard of posting here, maybe half a dozen posters in all.

The level of discussion is an embarrassment to the board.  Unless the petty disputes (which may not be so petty to some) and the personal attacks stop IMMEDIATELY, the first step will be banning some posters...no warnings, no regard for history on the board, no deference to anyone...they will just disappear.

The threads for both Antrim football and hurling may well be closed for a period of time unless posters just cop on a bit.

Next move is up to you, the posters.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 26, 2022, 10:20:06 PM
As a Derry man with best part of a bottle of wine in me i can only concur. Yis are a disgrace (but decent entertainment) 😃😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 26, 2022, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2022, 09:56:59 PM
Wonder are their any changes afoot for starting and game time slots tomorrow? Declan Lynch must be due anytime soon, and we haven't seen anything yet of Eunan Walsh. I know they've been on the easy list but they would need to be seeing game time soon or this season will be over for them!

Good luck to all players and management - could we be smiling tomorrow at 4pm.

Big pat gets a start as does kevin small
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on March 27, 2022, 07:04:41 AM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on March 26, 2022, 10:02:43 PM
Sent a few PM's to select posters regarding the standard of posting here, maybe half a dozen posters in all.

The level of discussion is an embarrassment to the board.  Unless the petty disputes (which may not be so petty to some) and the personal attacks stop IMMEDIATELY, the first step will be banning some posters...no warnings, no regard for history on the board, no deference to anyone...they will just disappear.

The threads for both Antrim football and hurling may well be closed for a period of time unless posters just cop on a bit.

Next move is up to you, the posters.

It's childish shite by the same posters all the time  and boring AF......it's put me and others I know off the board bigtime.

I don't have the time or patience to be scrolling through reams of petty shite squabbling (not banter because its as funny as a kick in the  balls) 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 27, 2022, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 26, 2022, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2022, 09:56:59 PM
Wonder are their any changes afoot for starting and game time slots tomorrow? Declan Lynch must be due anytime soon, and we haven't seen anything yet of Eunan Walsh. I know they've been on the easy list but they would need to be seeing game time soon or this season will be over for them!

Good luck to all players and management - could we be smiling tomorrow at 4pm.

Big pat gets a start as does kevin small

The young Rossa lad will take his place between the posts as well, and Jamie G will return to the bench....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 27, 2022, 10:22:53 AM
The young rossa keeper is a quality keeper, all the marks of the modern goal keeper, distribution is first class

Quote from: country bumpkin on March 27, 2022, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 26, 2022, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 26, 2022, 09:56:59 PM
Wonder are their any changes afoot for starting and game time slots tomorrow? Declan Lynch must be due anytime soon, and we haven't seen anything yet of Eunan Walsh. I know they've been on the easy list but they would need to be seeing game time soon or this season will be over for them!

Good luck to all players and management - could we be smiling tomorrow at 4pm.

Big pat gets a start as does kevin small

The young Rossa lad will take his place between the posts as well, and Jamie G will return to the bench....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2022, 11:05:33 AM
Any other changes CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 27, 2022, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 27, 2022, 11:05:33 AM
Any other changes CB?

Declan Lynch in for J Laverty...

As far as I know that's it......but..????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 27, 2022, 02:26:46 PM
 :-[ Goal for Limerick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 27, 2022, 03:37:01 PM
Some anticlimax, great position at HT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 27, 2022, 03:41:18 PM
Lads be realistic
Back into division 3 and finishing in top half ?
Who would've taken that at the start of February?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 27, 2022, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 27, 2022, 03:41:18 PM
Lads be realistic
Back into division 3 and finishing in top half ?
Who would've taken that at the start of February?

Yep, think we were getting ahead of ourselves and think Louth & Limerick will struggle badly next year in Div 2 (as we would have)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 27, 2022, 03:46:33 PM
Actually think Div 3 will be tough next year with Cavan/Tipp coming up & Down & Offaly relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 27, 2022, 03:48:08 PM
Mcginley OUT
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 27, 2022, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 27, 2022, 03:46:33 PM
Actually think Div 3 will be tough next year with Cavan/Tipp coming up & Down & Offaly relegated.

Yep
4th place next season would still be a great result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 27, 2022, 05:07:53 PM
Division 3 secured early for another year. Good league season for Antrim, plenty of positives
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 27, 2022, 06:14:14 PM
Plenty of positives in my opinion.

Fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 27, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
Ha, it's all got very civil round here  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 27, 2022, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 27, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
Ha, it's all got very civil round here  :o

League will be back in action soon. Fall outs aplenty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 27, 2022, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 27, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
Ha, it's all got very civil round here  :o

A few wings clipped, does no harm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 27, 2022, 07:42:42 PM
Cargin lost to the Johnnies and look relegation bound..after
Antrim's demise....been a bad day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: KickPass on March 27, 2022, 08:03:11 PM
Antrim are not div 2 standard yet. Another year competing in div 3 will stand to them better than losing 7 games in div 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 27, 2022, 08:13:44 PM
Who were the johnnies missing today from their starting 15 and who were cargin missing from their starting 15?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2022, 09:51:39 PM
Usually we get a superb performance followed by a poor one - today we got both in the same game!

We went from a team looking in complete control to a team that fell apart, looking decidedly average. You can't fault some excellent individual performances especially Marc Jordan who was fantastic today and definitely did not deserve to be on the losing side.

Mid Div 3 with 7 points we will take, but it tastes more like stale beer than anything we should be overly celebrating. Yes progress has been made, but plenty of work to do to match Louths progress curve (having started in roughly the same place) that's the barometer in my book anyway.

In fairness Div 2 looks exceptionally competitive next year, a further year of continued improvement may suit our agenda better in the long run.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 27, 2022, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 27, 2022, 08:13:44 PM
Who were the johnnies missing today from their starting 15 and who were cargin missing from their starting 15?

Match report will be posted on The Saffrongael..
.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 27, 2022, 10:13:42 PM
Upper-mid division three is where we are at.  And not much chance of progressing much higher with year after year of underage mediocrity and no competitive college teams.  No pipeline to push higher.  We flirted with the idea of promotion a few weeks ago, but couldn't do it, and quite a few people happy enough that we avoided a tough division two next year, which is either A. realistic, or B. says it all about our weak mentality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 27, 2022, 11:31:02 PM
It's very easy to blame our lack of success at schools level for all our ills. As last 30 years Donegal haven't been reinventing the wheel at Mccrory cup. Too many excuses being used . Get your own club coaching to the highest level and produce the best players with a good attitude, then we had over something the county can work with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 28, 2022, 01:36:32 AM
Disappointing not to go up after that start we had but at the end of the day the main objective was to stay up and we achieved that. All in all i think it was a positive campaign and we can build on it for next year. Promotion next year should definitely in the thinking.

The league is still the best competition the GAA had on offer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 28, 2022, 01:52:43 AM
There is no excuse why we shouldnt be competing given the population and the number of clubs we have. But it is what it is.

The fact that we dont have a school competing ay macrory is nothing short of an embarrassment. I know that every maghera/magherafelt team that wins it have antrim players. And even the aghagallon lads that won it with st ronans.

But the number of clubs in west belfast is ridiculous, the fact they cant produce a team to atleast compete at macrory is extremely worrying.

I know this argument is a broken record in this chat but i feel it really does need adressed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
Bad day at the office for Cargin as well by the look of things. Strong team out on paper too, I suppose every club has an off day here and there. Going by Geordies Saffron Gael report they just couldn't score....or are the Johnnie's on an upward projectory?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 28, 2022, 11:33:18 AM
Antrim fairly placed in Div 3 lads.  The league doesn't lie.   Beaten by Limerick, Louth and Westmeath who appear to be ahead of us and simply better outfits at present.  We caught Louth cold last year and they totaally underestimated us.  they didnt make the same mistake twice. Not that it would have made a difference in the end to the points tally, but the only one that annoys is the Laois game were we got a draw but endured a shocking display by the official.   For one I am pleased with the year to date and real progress has been made, but its the hope that kills you.

Another big pre=season ahead, really hope the troops stick with the programme and go for it.  On the evidence presented to date, we aren't ready for Div 2 but have to dig in and keep improving the physicality during the pre-season.    Div 3 looks like a real battleground next year with a lot of teams at the same level who will all take points off each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2022, 12:44:46 PM
Agree with all that Spike, especially it's the hope that kills you bit!

Eoghan Mc Cabe, James Laverty, Odhran Eastwood and Oisin Kerr have seen out practically every game since Enda arrived, mostly starting and finishing every game - droped to the bench in favour of a few who have had little or no game time at all!  I didn't see that coming for such an important game tbh.

Ps- the replacements all did ok and Paddy Mc Aleer was excellent when introduced for Tomas I thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 28, 2022, 01:28:53 PM
Would the thinking that the team may be better suited to another year in the 3rd division have came into play from the management? Or is that a nonsense suggestion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2022, 01:55:58 PM
I don't think we should get into conspiracy theories but that thought crossed my mind. If the quartet that were dropped come straight back in again for championship it really does raise the question of that theory alright!

A really strange time to give a run out to a reserve keeper -that's for sure. The management looked very subdued too. Last week all three standing together, yesterday the no 2 and 3 tucked away quietly in the background.

I'd rule nothing in or out Nat....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 28, 2022, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
Bad day at the office for Cargin as well by the look of things. Strong team out on paper too, I suppose every club has an off day here and there. Going by Geordies Saffron Gael report they just couldn't score....or are the Johnnie's on an upward projectory?
Cargin were poor but without all county players including 6 in the under 20 panel and league is a primary concern BS.....

Another reversal in prospect on Wed night....

Division two may well be easier....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2022, 03:19:07 PM
No medals in March CB. A club with numerous championship titles will rightly not get overexcited about the league. You've a local Derby though on Wednesday and all county players are available, that should be a better barometer if your well-being at this early stage of the year.

Neither manager will be sending a team out in casual mode for that I wouldn't think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 28, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2022, 03:19:07 PM
No medals in March CB. A club with numerous championship titles will rightly not get overexcited about the league. You've a local Derby though on Wednesday and all county players are available, that should be a better barometer if your well-being at this early stage of the year.

Neither manager will be sending a team out in casual mode for that I wouldn't think.
Not sure if senior county players are available on Wed night but certainly under 20s are not....

But I am sure our lads would love to gain another league title....but such maybe beyond them....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 28, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 28, 2022, 01:28:53 PM
Would the thinking that the team may be better suited to another year in the 3rd division have came into play from the management? Or is that a nonsense suggestion?
Not a chance.  McGinley and O'Neill are winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 28, 2022, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 28, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2022, 03:19:07 PM

County players are available for next 2 weeks as far as I'm aware
No medals in March CB. A club with numerous championship titles will rightly not get overexcited about the league. You've a local Derby though on Wednesday and all county players are available, that should be a better barometer if your well-being at this early stage of the year.

Neither manager will be sending a team out in casual mode for that I wouldn't think.
Not sure if senior county players are available on Wed night but certainly under 20s are not....

But I am sure our lads would love to gain another league title....but such maybe beyond them....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 28, 2022, 04:47:26 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 28, 2022, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 28, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2022, 03:19:07 PM

County players are available for next 2 weeks as far as I'm aware
No medals in March CB. A club with numerous championship titles will rightly not get overexcited about the league. You've a local Derby though on Wednesday and all county players are available, that should be a better barometer if your well-being at this early stage of the year.

Neither manager will be sending a team out in casual mode for that I wouldn't think.
Not sure if senior county players are available on Wed night but certainly under 20s are not....

But I am sure our lads would love to gain another league title....but such maybe beyond them....

You are right in that one BS county seniors are released to play Wed night.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2022, 04:56:48 PM
That should even things up a bit at least. No one wants to lose local derbies, even if it's "only" the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 28, 2022, 05:01:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2022, 04:56:48 PM
That should even things up a bit at least. No one wants to lose local derbies, even if it's "only" the league.

As Vincent Ward former Runai of Gall's and a good friend told me many years ago, You boys keen on winning leagues and we (Galls) will concentrate on the championship.

Took a while but lesson taught back.then well learned....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2022, 05:23:50 PM
But as you know yourself, when a championship was just out of your reach, it was good to have the league trophy available for your dinner dance. Just in case you would slip up in an oul semi final or final. Yes/No

Vincent was a wise sage and a gentleman to boot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2022, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 28, 2022, 05:23:50 PM
But as you know yourself, when a championship was just out of your reach, it was good to have the league trophy available for your dinner dance. Just in case you would slip up in an oul semi final or final. Yes/No

Vincent was a wise sage and a gentleman to boot.

No.....had enough of that 'league specialist" jibe to last a lifetime.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2022, 11:47:09 AM
Having considered the game on Sunday last we would, on recollection the huge strides forwarded
have made  this year.
Westmeath, make no mistake are a good team and our lads were totally dominant for a good portion.

That penalty and a couple of wayward kick outs from a young keeper who certainly looks one for the future cost us.

A comfortable finishing berth in the league and a winnable championship beckons and it is onwards and upwards...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
I see it different to you tbh. Huge strides is far too liberal....that's something Derry have done, from division four to within touching distance of division one. Or Clare, div 4 to seven completed years now in ultra competitive div 2. You talk of a team making huge strides then it's Louth, not us.

We are making "solid" progress, but we were made to look very ordinary during periods of our last two games. We conceded 9 points on the trot to Westmeath, and had no answer to their direct play when the chips were down. Too many missed tackles, and their men had space everywhere.

We are going "okay"...there's a lot of work still to be done. A victory against Cavan would change the narrative from solid to good in fairness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 29, 2022, 01:02:11 PM
The Laois result also looks poor in hindsight, they would have been considered a threat for promotion at the time but end up relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 29, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
I don't think Antrim have the players or panel to make these huge strides people are hoping for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 29, 2022, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 29, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
I don't think Antrim have the players or panel to make these huge strides people are hoping for.

Unfortunately i have to agree with you.

We are getting there but are still 2 or 3 top quality players away from being able to compete at the top level, especially up front.

We don't have close to the likes of a McCurry, Rian O'Neill, McBrearty etc, that one star forward who is a match winner consistently and unfortunately I think that will always be our downfall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 29, 2022, 02:34:57 PM
IMO the best forward we have in Antrim is Matty Fitz who isn't even part of the panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 29, 2022, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 29, 2022, 02:34:57 PM
IMO the best forward we have in Antrim is Matty Fitz who isn't even part of the panel

And hopefully get Adam Loughran back on the panel too when his studies are finished.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Fitzy a class act - we might have borrowed him from that other code from May to July in the old calendar and got some value from a great talent. But not going to happen, his soccer committments don't end until 29th April.

I wouldn't close the door on Eamon Fyfe or Dominic Mc Enhill. Two good talents still young enough.

Adam a certain starter for me, and then add the creativity of Jamie G pulling strings, surrounded by busy Liam Quinn and recognised scoring forward Conor Small. Michael Hagan shaping up really well for us too. These guys all early twenties.

No we are not blessed with marquee forwards but we should be doing better with what we have if a few injuries can clear up for next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 29, 2022, 03:13:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Fitzy a class act - we might have borrowed him from that other code from May to July in the old calendar and got some value from a great talent. But not going to happen, his soccer committments don't end until 29th April.

I wouldn't close the door on Eamon Fyfe or Dominic Mc Enhill. Two good talents still young enough.

Adam a certain starter for me, and then add the creativity of Jamie G pulling strings, surrounded by busy Liam Quinn and recognised scoring forward Conor Small. Michael Hagan shaping up really well for us too. These guys all early twenties.

No we are not blessed with marquee forwards but we should be doing better with what we have if a few injuries can clear up for next year.

Good point BS on those injured players, I had never considered them hopefully coming back into the fold as well.

Maybe another year in Div 3 and being able to bring some of those lads in won't be a bad thing to develop them as a team and then maybe the likes of Fitzy will see what is coming together and make a return as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 29, 2022, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Fitzy a class act - we might have borrowed him from that other code from May to July in the old calendar and got some value from a great talent. But not going to happen, his soccer committments don't end until 29th April.

I wouldn't close the door on Eamon Fyfe or Dominic Mc Enhill. Two good talents still young enough.

Adam a certain starter for me, and then add the creativity of Jamie G pulling strings, surrounded by busy Liam Quinn and recognised scoring forward Conor Small. Michael Hagan shaping up really well for us too. These guys all early twenties.

No we are not blessed with marquee forwards but we should be doing better with what we have if a few injuries can clear up for next year.
Have you seen Liam Quinn starring BS, even at club level or what brings you to the above conclusion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2022, 03:49:06 PM
Quinn and Small have spent significant periods of time out injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 04:08:15 PM
Yes EOC, I've seen Liam quite a few times and have always been impressed as I know have club and county underage coaches who have worked with him. Isn't he a McRory cup medal winner too, in fact one of the stars of the convent team. Definitely prone to injuries but still young enough to feature if the right breaks go his way. IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 29, 2022, 04:22:38 PM
He is definitely a good prospect, but I think would need to show a bit more a club senior level before we rely on him for the county senior team. Horrible injuries he has had. Maybe this will be his year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 04:39:44 PM
A year can make a big difference and there's going to be a few pop up from below the radar during club championships.

I thought Aghagallons Ruairi Mc Cann got a bit of a raw deal, he would be higher up my ratings than a few who were retained by county management. Is he another Mc Rory Cup winner for St Ronan's... honesty not sure, but he is dangerous when in the mood!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 29, 2022, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 04:39:44 PM
A year can make a big difference and there's going to be a few pop up from below the radar during club championships.

I thought Aghagallons Ruairi Mc Cann got a bit of a raw deal, he would be higher up my ratings than a few who were retained by county management. Is he another Mc Rory Cup winner for St Ronan's... honesty not sure, but he is dangerous when in the mood!
You're a good man for taking in games BS, did you watch the county final last year? Would you of gave Adam Loughran or Ruairi McCann any more than 3 or 4 out of 10? They're undoubted good players but are they ready to lead the line in intercounty senior football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 05:00:57 PM
There's no doubt those two were very quiet in the final, can't argue with that. There have been plenty of days when they haven't been though. Those two in particular did most of the damage against Portglenone in the elongated semi final. Their mountain had been climbed I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 29, 2022, 05:08:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 05:00:57 PM
There's no doubt those two were very quiet in the final, can't argue with that. There have been plenty of days when they haven't been though. Those two in particular did most of the damage against Portglenone in the elongated semi final. Their mountain had been climbed I think.
Loughran in particular a great player hopefully he pushes on and comes back in in 2023.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 29, 2022, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 29, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
I don't think Antrim have the players or panel to make these huge strides people are hoping for.

Just hit the nail on the head.

We're made good progress lads but need to build a foundation so that we can compete comfortably in Div 3 never mid Div 2. We need to stop the up and down from Div 3 to Div 4 and back again scenarios.  Get a good solid footing an d kick on again.

Think your optimism BS has got the better of you comparing us to Louth who are on a totally different trajectory to us.  We may have caught them cold last year but it is as obvious as the nose on your face they are operating at a higher level than us currently with more marquee forwards and obstinate defenders.  Physically we have catching up to do but we have made strides in that dept as well.

One of the problems we have in Antrim is looking for a quick fix or the easy route.  There is none. We have went too far down that road for a quick solution to work.        We tried a different approach with the management team and it has brought progress.  Time to address our longstanding underage issues, correct them and continue to advance in the long term, building a foundation for success and players equipped to deal with the higher divisions.    The crash and burn from our last exploits in Div 2 has taken a decade to recover from. New players will be blooded again next season and hungry for promotion but they need to believe in the project. 





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 29, 2022, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 05:00:57 PM
There's no doubt those two were very quiet in the final, can't argue with that. There have been plenty of days when they haven't been though. Those two in particular did most of the damage against Portglenone in the elongated semi final. Their mountain had been climbed I think.

BS to steal some words from a famous Tyrone manager The next time Antrim are playing PG1......

The guys have undoubted potential
Adam didn't get much of a look in last year and didn't start for a UCD sigerson team beaten by Letterkenny
An undoubted underage talent but yet to make the mark at the higher level. Could be injuries & studies that have stalled the progress. Time is on his side to kick on.

On Ruairi you may have hit the nail on the head.... When in the mood.... Unfortunately at the higher level when in the mood doesn't really do it. You need the 6/10 on a bad day.

Again has time to rectify and bring the consistency required at that level




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 29, 2022, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Flanker on March 29, 2022, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 05:00:57 PM
There's no doubt those two were very quiet in the final, can't argue with that. There have been plenty of days when they haven't been though. Those two in particular did most of the damage against Portglenone in the elongated semi final. Their mountain had been climbed I think.

BS to steal some words from a famous Tyrone manager The next time Antrim are playing PG1......

The guys have undoubted potential
Adam didn't get much of a look in last year and didn't start for a UCD sigerson team beaten by Letterkenny
An undoubted underage talent but yet to make the mark at the higher level. Could be injuries & studies that have stalled the progress. Time is on his side to kick on.

On Ruairi you may have hit the nail on the head.... When in the mood.... Unfortunately at the higher level when in the mood doesn't really do it. You need the 6/10 on a bad day.

Again has time to rectify and bring the consistency required at that level
That was great quote, Art McCrory I think it was
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 29, 2022, 06:15:51 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 29, 2022, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Flanker on March 29, 2022, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 05:00:57 PM
There's no doubt those two were very quiet in the final, can't argue with that. There have been plenty of days when they haven't been though. Those two in particular did most of the damage against Portglenone in the elongated semi final. Their mountain had been climbed I think.

BS to steal some words from a famous Tyrone manager The next time Antrim are playing PG1......

The guys have undoubted potential
Adam didn't get much of a look in last year and didn't start for a UCD sigerson team beaten by Letterkenny
An undoubted underage talent but yet to make the mark at the higher level. Could be injuries & studies that have stalled the progress. Time is on his side to kick on.

On Ruairi you may have hit the nail on the head.... When in the mood.... Unfortunately at the higher level when in the mood doesn't really do it. You need the 6/10 on a bad day.

Again has time to rectify and bring the consistency required at that level
That was great quote, Art McCrory I think it was
It was  A confident lough shore forward supposedly on the receiving end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2022, 06:22:55 PM
What would Louth be like in Leinster at underage and schools cup level?

Would Westmeath have a decent under age set up county and schools? I know they won I think a minor championship before, can't remember how long that was. In Football are Limerick doing well at under age for county or schools?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 06:56:25 PM
Next time Tyrone are playing the Rock lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 29, 2022, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2022, 06:22:55 PM
What would Louth be like in Leinster at underage and schools cup level?


Would Westmeath have a decent under age set up county and schools? I know they won I think a minor championship before, can't remember how long that was. In Football are Limerick doing well at under age for county or schools?

Westmeath schools in 5 A finals between 2014 & 2020 + probably pupils going to. St Pats Navan

Louth 2 wins in A in last 20 years + probably pupils going to St Pats Navan & Gormanstown

Might be something in this Schools football after all

Munster dominated by Kerry so Limerick schools don't feature.

Strong sporting county Maybe JP throwing a few coppers behind it trying to follow the hurling model
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2022, 11:34:51 PM
Spike I must be missing something here. You say Louth are on a completely different projectory as if that's perfectly normal, like they are some superpower. We beat them three times in a row between 2019 and 2021, the latest being just over a year ago.

I'm hearing now oh theyve better players, and they've more experienced management and all that drivel. Well they hadn't up until very recently (eg 10 days ago) so for me that's a perfectly normal and acceptable benchmark to measure our own progress by.

If they're making much larger strides than us we should be asking why, not accepting that as some kind of norm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 08:19:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 11:34:51 PM
Spike I must be missing something here. You say Louth are on a completely different projectory as if that's perfectly normal, like they are some superpower. We beat them three times in a row between 2019 and 2021, the latest being just over a year ago.

I'm hearing now oh theyve better players, and they've more experienced management and all that drivel. Well they hadn't up until very recently (eg 10 days ago) so for me that's a perfectly normal and acceptable benchmark to measure our own progress by.

If they're making much larger strides than us we should be asking why, not accepting that as some kind of norm.

Think it was the Irish Examiner that had an article a couple of weeks back about how poor juvenile football was in Louth after their minors were beat by 25 points in Leinster championship. I think they are very like us, produce some good juvenile teams every now and again and senior team medicore. Dont see them as any model to try to replicate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2022, 08:32:25 AM
McGinley is doing great but Harte has three all irelands at senior, multiple at under 21, a minor, a provincial club and the list goes on. He has a lot of experience and McGinley is very new to the game. Also what would we give for a scoring forward like they have - tbh if we had a boy of that level we'd be a lot better too.

It would be nice to have done back to back like they did yes but not doing that doesn't make us a failure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 30, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 11:34:51 PM
Spike I must be missing something here. You say Louth are on a completely different projectory as if that's perfectly normal, like they are some superpower. We beat them three times in a row between 2019 and 2021, the latest being just over a year ago.

I'm hearing now oh theyve better players, and they've more experienced management and all that drivel. Well they hadn't up until very recently (eg 10 days ago) so for me that's a perfectly normal and acceptable benchmark to measure our own progress by.

If they're making much larger strides than us we should be asking why, not accepting that as some kind of norm.

Perhaps if you consider the make up of the current Antrim team it does reveal that just two clubs make up about 60% of those who participated on Sunday.
And acknowledge the fact that despite being without '(county personnel) for the 2021 season Cargin who proceeded throughout without did win that competition.
Also consider that several players called refused to answer Mc Ginley's call (As you would say in the case of Pg1) to concentrate on our own affairs or something similar.

Is our county equipped with enough players to cross swords with the best?

The acid test is ahead when we reach championship.

Now although the 'seeded draw' did ensure PG1 and St Mary's look more than likely on course for a county final in a far from difficult route are either on course to meet up with the silverware?
I am sure those who will anticipate such a few pounds invested on such will receive  a handsome return.

I do consider the merits of those lads you are promoting to Saffron and am afraid some would struggle.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 09:35:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 29, 2022, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 29, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
I don't think Antrim have the players or panel to make these huge strides people are hoping for.

One of the problems we have in Antrim is looking for a quick fix or the easy route.  There is none. We have went too far down that road for a quick solution to work.        We tried a different approach with the management team and it has brought progress.  Time to address our longstanding underage issues, correct them and continue to advance in the long term, building a foundation for success and players equipped to deal with the higher divisions.    The crash and burn from our last exploits in Div 2 has taken a decade to recover from. New players will be blooded again next season and hungry for promotion but they need to believe in the project.

This is the nail on the head. Our underage development structures are still miles away from where they need to be. Until we get that side of things right we are simply papering over the cracks.

So I will ask again, does anyone now what our Director Of Football has been up to? 6 months into the job and not a peep
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on March 30, 2022, 09:38:15 AM
If Down can get to Division 2 then so can Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2022, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 09:35:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 29, 2022, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 29, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
I don't think Antrim have the players or panel to make these huge strides people are hoping for.

One of the problems we have in Antrim is looking for a quick fix or the easy route.  There is none. We have went too far down that road for a quick solution to work.        We tried a different approach with the management team and it has brought progress.  Time to address our longstanding underage issues, correct them and continue to advance in the long term, building a foundation for success and players equipped to deal with the higher divisions.    The crash and burn from our last exploits in Div 2 has taken a decade to recover from. New players will be blooded again next season and hungry for promotion but they need to believe in the project.

This is the nail on the head. Our underage development structures are still miles away from where they need to be. Until we get that side of things right we are simply papering over the cracks.

So I will ask again, does anyone now what our Director Of Football has been up to? 6 months into the job and not a peep

I read somewhere, maybe The Gaelic Life, a snippet from him praising the work of the senior football management. I think it was only a sentence or two, but absolutely nothing about the targets for development within the county or any strategy to improve football. It's as strange as things get!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 30, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
If you watch U8 U9 games young players are all at the same level, the talent here as good as anywhere, its what happens between 8/9 and 14/15/16 that is the problem. Despite that I am no expert myself but I think its a numbers game. Other counties have a higher volume of clubs that are pushing and pushing which leads to higher volume of better players. Tyrone for example have clubs driving on at underage doesn't matter if their in Divison 1,2, 3 or 4. We have clubs in divison 1 that don't even field a minor team.
Same at senior club level really Derry Tyrone etc every league game is a competitive war, alot of Antrim Division 1 games are uncompetitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2022, 10:02:53 AM
100% agree. It's up to clubs to push on all all age groups, get quality coaches in place and do much more than what has been attempted in the past.

Anything a player gets from  county dev squads or schools etc is a welcome bonus, but let's not depend on anything in this regard.

Couldn't be happier with what I see in PG1 underage, plenty going on in good hands and my admittedly sometimes over optimistic eye can see a club with a lot of genuine talent starting to emerge especially in the age 10 to 14 bracket.

As I said before several times, there is probably a bigger push at juvenile level than at senior, although John Mc Keever has noticably upped the ante around senior squad activity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 09:35:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 29, 2022, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 29, 2022, 01:08:09 PM
I don't think Antrim have the players or panel to make these huge strides people are hoping for.

One of the problems we have in Antrim is looking for a quick fix or the easy route.  There is none. We have went too far down that road for a quick solution to work.        We tried a different approach with the management team and it has brought progress.  Time to address our longstanding underage issues, correct them and continue to advance in the long term, building a foundation for success and players equipped to deal with the higher divisions.    The crash and burn from our last exploits in Div 2 has taken a decade to recover from. New players will be blooded again next season and hungry for promotion but they need to believe in the project.

The quality of player being produced by clubs at juvenile level is nothing to do with DOF surely, its about the club. I read that interview the DOF gave to the IN ,he said his remit was to concenrate on minor and u20, same as the DOH.

This is the nail on the head. Our underage development structures are still miles away from where they need to be. Until we get that side of things right we are simply papering over the cracks.

So I will ask again, does anyone now what our Director Of Football has been up to? 6 months into the job and not a peep
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 11:18:48 AM
Serious questions need to be asked about this DOF role.

What was the appointment process? What is the remit? What are the targets for development? What will the approach be? How is success measured?

These are legitimate questions and it is very concerning that those of us with an interest in the future of football in our county have no idea what is going on (if anything!).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 11:29:18 AM
I also recognise that GA is not answerable to us on this discussion board, and I genuinely hope there is plenty of good work going on behind the scenes, but questions need to be asked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 11:29:18 AM
I also recognise that GA is not answerable to us on this discussion board, and I genuinely hope there is plenty of good work going on behind the scenes, but questions need to be asked.

Theres a county meeting sure every month, why not get your rep to ask?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 30, 2022, 12:17:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2022, 11:34:51 PM
Spike I must be missing something here. You say Louth are on a completely different projectory as if that's perfectly normal, like they are some superpower. We beat them three times in a row between 2019 and 2021, the latest being just over a year ago.

I'm hearing now oh theyve better players, and they've more experienced management and all that drivel. Well they hadn't up until very recently (eg 10 days ago) so for me that's a perfectly normal and acceptable benchmark to measure our own progress by.

If they're making much larger strides than us we should be asking why, not accepting that as some kind of norm.

BS I thought you said you were at the match? surely you saw that it wasn't merely tactics in how Antrim were beaten?  Louth are on their own path and their own pace which is ahead of us at the moment as an individual group. We need time to catch up as a collective. They certainly are no superpower or have a template that I would be advocating us to follow, merely a stage in time.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 30, 2022, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2022, 10:02:53 AM
100% agree. It's up to clubs to push on all all age groups, get quality coaches in place and do much more than what has been attempted in the past.

Anything a player gets from  county dev squads or schools etc is a welcome bonus, but let's not depend on anything in this regard.

Couldn't be happier with what I see in PG1 underage, plenty going on in good hands and my admittedly sometimes over optimistic eye can see a club with a lot of genuine talent starting to emerge especially in the age 10 to 14 bracket.

As I said before several times, there is probably a bigger push at juvenile level than at senior, although John Mc Keever has noticably upped the ante around senior squad activity.

Have to agree with how you are going at underage.

I took our U13 team to play you last year in the league and was mightily impressed.

Not only have they 5 or 6 stand out players, the way they worked as a team and had no hesitations in passing even to the perceived weaker players in the team was a great lesson to our boys.

Very good attitudes as well and one of the slabbering and off the ball stuff you would see from a number of other teams at that level.

A lot to be said for the coaches of that particular team and how they must be working with them.

If you can keep that nucleus of a team together there is a big future coming for PG1, as they are without a doubt levels above every other team at that age group in the county.


The one surprising thing (or maybe not surprising given who were making the selections) were that when you look at the players selected for the u14 development squad, there were a very large proportion of boys from Belfast teams and maybe only 3 or 4 from that PG1 team and a handful from the other SW clubs.

St Pauls and St Endas had easily 15 players between them selected and they wouldn't be as good as PG1 and maybe even Moneyglass, who had maybe 6 players selected between them.

I would say out of 50 selected, there were over 30 from Belfast clubs, which wouldn't paint a picture of how strong each club is at that age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2022, 01:19:21 PM
A lot of interesting points being made there Barnish.

St Brigid's very strong at that age group too, I was equally impressed with them too, and a great bit of height about some of them for the age. Move the ball very well.

I'm not bumming PG1 up, the coaches involved wouldn't want me doing that, but there's a really nice conveyor belt in place across four or five age groups and work going on is top class. I'd expect to see a healthy dividend from this in time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 30, 2022, 01:20:48 PM
Could this all result in Portglenone winning their first ever minor championship in a couple of years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 30, 2022, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 30, 2022, 01:20:48 PM
Could this all result in Portglenone winning their first ever minor championship in a couple of years?

Regardless of club or county, more important thing is to keep lads and lassies playing and moving them on to the next age group, with the numbers intact.

If that happens, then the coaches' job is done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2022, 01:54:46 PM
A lot of the coaches now involved were part of the great Stinson minor teams that won 4 in a row as part of the amalgamation with Ahoghill. Quite a few have an active role in our current underage structure. But yes EOC, as a club it would indeed be a first if that happens, albeit thats still two or three years away at present.

Having said that while silverware is welcome, the Cargin model where you bring through three or four quality players almost every year to add to the senior mix is still the template.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 01:59:33 PM
Onto more current matters how do we see tonight's games going?

Cargin to get back on track? PG1 to hammer TNN?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on March 30, 2022, 02:06:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2022, 01:19:21 PM
A lot of interesting points being made there Barnish.

St Brigid's very strong at that age group too, I was equally impressed with them too, and a great bit of height about some of them for the age. Move the ball very well.

I'm not bumming PG1 up, the coaches involved wouldn't want me doing that, but there's a really nice conveyor belt in place across four or five age groups and work going on is top class. I'd expect to see a healthy dividend from this in time.
Interesting choice of words....Would there be the odd Tab that needs settled on top of the 4 in a row boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2022, 02:06:50 PM
Casements by 5
Naomh Eanna by 2
Lahms by 4
Creggan by 4
Johnnies by 3
Ahoghill by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2022, 02:32:12 PM
That gave me a proper laugh Flanker, thanks Bud for that.

Spike yes I was at the game unfortunately as it was a long and depressing drive home in the knowledge we were outplayed on the pitch and out thought off it.

Louth had a simple game plan which we never caught on to. Their forwards were moving all over the place making space for Big Sam and yet we never adapted or offered Ricky any protection whatsoever. Very disappointed we didn't play a sweeper in front of him tbh. You'de have seen that yourself surely?

Let's move on from that match though. It's over, was a bad day at the office..Cavan is the next big show, hopefully we can be at our best for that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 30, 2022, 02:32:29 PM
Casements by 2
St Brigid's by 5
Lamh Dhearg by 3
Creggan by 2
St Johns by 2
Ahoghill by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 03:00:44 PM
Casements by 9
St Brigid's by 1
Lamh Dhearg by 5
Cargin by 4
St Johns by 5
Ahoghill by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 30, 2022, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 03:00:44 PM
Casements by 9
St Brigid's by 1
Lamh Dhearg by 5
Cargin by 4
St Johns by 5

Is there no other divisions on !
Ahoghill by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 03:26:59 PM
Fair point actually HH

Glenravel v MGlass should be a clinker and ill call that a draw
Rasharkin to beat Dunloy
Glenavy to beat Aldergrove
Davits to beat Sarsfields
St Pauls to win easy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2022, 03:38:51 PM
Glenravel v MGlass (MG by 7)
Rasharkin v Dunloy (D by 3)
Glenavy v Aldergrove (AG by 4)
Davits V Sarsfields (Draw)
St Pauls (by 5)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 30, 2022, 01:20:48 PM
Could this all result in Portglenone winning their first ever minor championship in a couple of years?

what do you mean in a couple of years? Casements have never won a minor title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 04:17:36 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2022, 03:38:51 PM
Glenravel v MGlass (MG by 7)
Rasharkin v Dunloy (D by 3)
Glenavy v Aldergrove (AG by 4)
Davits V Sarsfields (Draw)
St Pauls (by 5)

+1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on March 30, 2022, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 30, 2022, 01:20:48 PM
Could this all result in Portglenone winning their first ever minor championship in a couple of years?

what do you mean in a couple of years? Casements have never won a minor title.
That's why he said "first ever".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2022, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 30, 2022, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 30, 2022, 01:20:48 PM
Could this all result in Portglenone winning their first ever minor championship in a couple of years?

what do you mean in a couple of years? Casements have never won a minor title.

Read it again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 30, 2022, 10:07:39 PM
Cargin beat again....another painful report with tears in my eyes hampering vision..
Div 2 and Intermediate championship looms large....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin
link=topic=21.msg2112215#msg2112215 date=1648674459
Cargin beat again....another painful report with tears in my eyes hampering vision..
Div 2 and Intermediate championship looms large....
Will youse even be able to field a team????
Me thinks Cargin will be ok and not many will lose sleep about the league start.
In all honesty and without sounding condescending, I would have liked to have started the league playing Cargin, Creggan and Lamhs minus County players rather than face them later!! We have beaten teams that we would be expected to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
Leagues are for playing, Championships for winning........

RC I believe it wasn't too straight forward in the first half tonight?

Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin
link=topic=21.msg2112215#msg2112215 date=1648674459
Cargin beat again....another painful report with tears in my eyes hampering vision..
Div 2 and Intermediate championship looms large....
Will youse even be able to field a team????
Me thinks Cargin will be ok and not many will lose sleep about the league start.
In all honesty and without sounding condescending, I would have liked to have started the league playing Cargin, Creggan and Lamhs minus County players rather than face them later!! We have beaten teams that we would be expected to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
Leagues are for playing, Championships for winning........

RC I believe it wasn't too straight forward in the first half tonight?

Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin
link=topic=21.msg2112215#msg2112215 date=1648674459
Cargin beat again....another painful report with tears in my eyes hampering vision..
Div 2 and Intermediate championship looms large....
Will youse even be able to field a team????
Me thinks Cargin will be ok and not many will lose sleep about the league start.
In all honesty and without sounding condescending, I would have liked to have started the league playing Cargin, Creggan and Lamhs minus County players rather than face them later!! We have beaten teams that we would be expected to beat.
No it wasn't but there are 2 halves in games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 30, 2022, 10:55:18 PM
I have a feeling Cargin aren't too bothered about league just yet, 4 pitch sessions under belts so far, using league like challenge games really, come the business end not too many will wana be up against them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2022, 11:19:06 PM
Cargin probably favourites still but Creggan definitely won't be overawed by their near parish neighbours at this stage. These two probably a good bit ahead of anything else....but then again....on any given day......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on March 31, 2022, 01:23:58 AM
With the league games in full flow, a big shout out to the Saffron Gael team for reports on the night/morning after of games. If you arent making a payment towards the work they are doing you really should.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 31, 2022, 09:26:35 AM
With the under 20 championship near and Cargin having 8 individuals on the panel surely this stat would suggest a lack of interest, or indeed abilities within the rest of clubs in the county...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 31, 2022, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
Leagues are for playing, Championships for winning........

RC I believe it wasn't too straight forward in the first half tonight?

Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin
link=topic=21.msg2112215#msg2112215 date=1648674459
Cargin beat again....another painful report with tears in my eyes hampering vision..
Div 2 and Intermediate championship looms large....
Will youse even be able to field a team????
Me thinks Cargin will be ok and not many will lose sleep about the league start.
In all honesty and without sounding condescending, I would have liked to have started the league playing Cargin, Creggan and Lamhs minus County players rather than face them later!! We have beaten teams that we would be expected to beat.
No it wasn't but there are 2 halves in games

Missed penalty was costly.

TNN never recovered from it, within 3 minutes of missing it to go 1 point behind, we were 9 points behind!

But it is all a learning process this year up with the big boys and as long as we win the games we are expected to win and stay up, games like last night will hopefully build a bit of character.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 31, 2022, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 30, 2022, 10:55:18 PM
I have a feeling Cargin aren't too bothered about league just yet, 4 pitch sessions under belts so far, using league like challenge games really, come the business end not too many will wana be up against them.

See this theory would make more sense if they were using the longer break over the winter to recharge and have a go at Ulster.

But from what I can see they are further away than ever to doing something in Ulster after winning a county title.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 31, 2022, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 31, 2022, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Hard to disagree with alot of what you say Barnish.
TIr na nog are a decent outfit, does dual players harm you much?
I think you will comfortably stay up and will take plenty of points.
League a very strange competition this year.
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 30, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
Leagues are for playing, Championships for winning........

RC I believe it wasn't too straight forward in the first half tonight?

Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin
link=topic=21.msg2112215#msg2112215 date=1648674459
Cargin beat again....another painful report with tears in my eyes hampering vision..
Div 2 and Intermediate championship looms large....
Will youse even be able to field a team????
Me thinks Cargin will be ok and not many will lose sleep about the league start.
In all honesty and without sounding condescending, I would have liked to have started the league playing Cargin, Creggan and Lamhs minus County players rather than face them later!! We have beaten teams that we would be expected to beat.
No it wasn't but there are 2 halves in games

Missed penalty was costly.

TNN never recovered from it, within 3 minutes of missing it to go 1 point behind, we were 9 points behind!

But it is all a learning process this year up with the big boys and as long as we win the games we are expected to win and stay up, games like last night will hopefully build a bit of character.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 31, 2022, 10:57:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 31, 2022, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 30, 2022, 10:55:18 PM
I have a feeling Cargin aren't too bothered about league just yet, 4 pitch sessions under belts so far, using league like challenge games really, come the business end not too many will wana be up against them.

See this theory would make more sense if they were using the longer break over the winter to recharge and have a go at Ulster.

But from what I can see they are further away than ever to doing something in Ulster after winning a county title.

So that is your considered opinion.....?
Wonder when Cargin ever made intentions on Ulster a priority or a target.
Been difficult enough winning 5 out of the last county senior titles with a couple of minors thrown in without an aim on the provincial as you seem to suggest Nag.


Think March is a tad early for making such negative observations unless you are part of the management down at as,Toome or perhaps a keen observer at their few training sessions this far..



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 31, 2022, 11:07:15 AM
Barnish were you at the game? It was Casements missed the penalty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 31, 2022, 11:34:35 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on March 31, 2022, 11:07:15 AM
Barnish were you at the game? It was Casements missed the penalty.

Didn't get finished work until 7 so no, but i was speaking to someone who i believed was at the game and the first two lines of what i typed above was word for word what they told me!!

They even named who missed the penalty.

I maybe should verify my sources before commenting lol

Makes the start of the second half even worse then as they must have stayed in the changing rooms for the first 10 minutes!

As i said before, all a learning process for us this year and that second half is a good lesson in what the top teams can do when they turn it on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 31, 2022, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 31, 2022, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 30, 2022, 10:55:18 PM
I have a feeling Cargin aren't too bothered about league just yet, 4 pitch sessions under belts so far, using league like challenge games really, come the business end not too many will wana be up against them.

See this theory would make more sense if they were using the longer break over the winter to recharge and have a go at Ulster.

But from what I can see they are further away than ever to doing something in Ulster after winning a county title.
This makes no sense at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 31, 2022, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 30, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Hard to disagree with alot of what you say Barnish.
TIr na nog are a decent outfit, does dual players harm you much?
I think you will comfortably stay up and will take plenty of points.
League a very strange competition this year.

While it would be more straightforward focusing on one code, we have managed it well the last couple of years, winning intermediate championships in both.

Says a lot for the management teams and how they work together, rather than just looking out for their own teams.

Players buy into it as well as a majority are dual players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on March 31, 2022, 11:55:07 AM
There is a huge step up from intermediate to senior as I'm sure your hurlers realised last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 31, 2022, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 31, 2022, 11:55:07 AM
There is a huge step up from intermediate to senior as I'm sure your hurlers realised last year.

100%!!

Did well against the Johnnies but Dunloy and Cushendall were too big a step up.

But that's what helps you build, playing against the best, same as with the county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on March 31, 2022, 02:36:39 PM
100% There was a great performance against st johns and maybe should have got something from it. Looks like the gorts are gonna go down this year - your match against Ahoghill on sunday will be a telling factor in the other relegation spot.
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 31, 2022, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 31, 2022, 11:55:07 AM
There is a huge step up from intermediate to senior as I'm sure your hurlers realised last year.

100%!!

Did well against the Johnnies but Dunloy and Cushendall were too big a step up.

But that's what helps you build, playing against the best, same as with the county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 31, 2022, 08:18:37 PM
Antrim 10/1 Cavan 3/1 favs to win tailteann Cup with Paddy Power. Not sure where they are getting this idea from!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2022, 08:22:14 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on March 31, 2022, 08:18:37 PM
Antrim 10/1 Cavan 3/1 favs to win tailteann Cup with Paddy Power. Not sure where they are getting this idea from!

If we were recent Ulster champions I'd say our odds would be better. If you are looking at league form  and placings then that would be foolish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 31, 2022, 08:38:04 PM
Cavan will be favourites to beat us. Previous champions and much better championship record recently and otherwise. I still think it's as good a chance for a win in ulster as it has been in a long time but any Cavan fan probably expects to beat us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on March 31, 2022, 08:48:33 PM
Cavan will expect to beat us, I expect Cavan to beat us, my pt
Is I don't think they justify 3/1 favs to win Tailtean Cup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 31, 2022, 09:03:40 PM
I think we might beat them but agreed on favourites. I think Fermanagh have a very good chance and maybe Offaly. Down seem to be in a bit of disarray so not sure about them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 31, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
the johnnies have had a good start this year - who is taking them this year?
dont write the Gorts off just yet - usually got lots of points at home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 31, 2022, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 31, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
the johnnies have had a good start this year - who is taking them this year?
dont write the Gorts off just yet - usually got lots of points at home
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Aaron Douglas and Benny Marron.
Gorts last season in div 1 for a while
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2022, 06:34:35 PM
Can our young Saffrons pull off a shock tonight in Owenbeg?

Not beyond them despite the opinion of the bookies....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2022, 06:47:36 PM
Best of luck to all involved. Just leaving here shortly to head up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 01, 2022, 08:39:11 PM
Half time here and so far so good, bar my toes which I can't feel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2022, 09:15:53 PM
Fifteen minutes into the second half and still very much in the game. 10 9 Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 01, 2022, 09:22:56 PM
I thought it was a well organised Antrim team matching Derry throughout with real hunger and quality, we'll conditioned too. Just fell short, that referee highly annoying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 01, 2022, 09:28:18 PM
Credit to players and management tonight, just fell short. Around half the squad still eligible next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 01, 2022, 09:32:04 PM
Something to build on there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2022, 10:16:14 PM
An Antrim performance to be very proud of in a night we lost nothing in defeat. That's four times I saw this team and every match they got better. Expect quite a few of this group to kick on in Saffron in coming years....and a rare gem in their midst!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 01, 2022, 11:06:29 PM
The gem at 11 BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2022, 11:10:11 PM
That's a pretty decent performance against a traditionally strong under age team

I see Cavan under 20's hammered Monaghan, were all the games played tonight? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on April 01, 2022, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2022, 11:10:11 PM
That's a pretty decent performance against a traditionally strong under age team

I see Cavan under 20's hammered Monaghan, were all the games played tonight?

Quarter finals:

Donegal 1-13 Armagh 0-9
Derry 0-12 Antrim 0-9
Monaghan 0-3 Cavan 1-11

Tyrone v Down on Saturday at Loughmacrory 1pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Average Score on April 01, 2022, 11:23:48 PM
First sign of insanity talking to yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2022, 11:26:46 PM
Armagh duffed by Donegal... who put Fermanagh out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 01, 2022, 11:40:50 PM
They went out in preliminary round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 01, 2022, 11:41:22 PM
Not sure to who
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 01, 2022, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 01, 2022, 11:41:22 PM
Not sure to who

Down beat Fermanagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2022, 11:46:08 PM
Sean Duffin a proper player Dreen. You can just see the class oozing out of him. A county Star of the future without a doubt...has got the lot, now if he could be turned into a scoring forward that would be the cherry on the top.

But that wasn't who I had in mind. Let's just say he is bred in the purple to be a senior county footballer. We will be watching this young man for almost as many years as we have been watching his Dad and his uncles.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 02, 2022, 12:04:14 AM
A fine performance by our u20s against a much talked about and rated Derry team. Comfortable in possession, patient, physical and full of belief, that was us by the way!! Some very poor officiating I thought, incredibly soft frees given which Derry seemed to get easier than us. Black card with 15 to go was harsh in the extreme.
Great progress by this group the majority are back again next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:21:39 AM
Sure what do you expect.
How are you expected to pick a decent u20 team when Antrim haven't hosted a proper u20 tournament/league/championship for the past 3 years, when lads are working generally on Saturday trying to earn a few quid. The "u20 championship" has been a shambles the past few years and most games haven't been played and shite teams have ended up winning a tournament that no team ever bothered with and most withdrew from. Ever since it moved from u21 and the Creggan tournament to what it is now it's the best of a bad lot who want to field a team. How are the u20 management expected to pick a decent squad of emerging players from this if this age group haven't played for the guts of three years. Shambles wouldn't even come close to what it is at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2022, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:21:39 AM
Sure what do you expect.
How are you expected to pick a decent u20 team when Antrim haven't hosted a proper u20 tournament/league/championship for the past 3 years, when lads are working generally on Saturday trying to earn a few quid. The "u20 championship" has been a shambles the past few years and most games haven't been played and shite teams have ended up winning a tournament that no team ever bothered with and most withdrew from. Ever since it moved from u21 and the Creggan tournament to what it is now it's the best of a bad lot who want to field a team. How are the u20 management expected to pick a decent squad of emerging players from this if this age group haven't played for the guts of three years. Shambles wouldn't even come close to what it is at the minute.

Has there not only been 1 Un20 championship due to covid?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:28:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2022, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:21:39 AM
Sure what do you expect.
How are you expected to pick a decent u20 team when Antrim haven't hosted a proper u20 tournament/league/championship for the past 3 years, when lads are working generally on Saturday trying to earn a few quid. The "u20 championship" has been a shambles the past few years and most games haven't been played and shite teams have ended up winning a tournament that no team ever bothered with and most withdrew from. Ever since it moved from u21 and the Creggan tournament to what it is now it's the best of a bad lot who want to field a team. How are the u20 management expected to pick a decent squad of emerging players from this if this age group haven't played for the guts of three years. Shambles wouldn't even come close to what it is at the minute.

Has there not only been 1 Un20 championship due to covid?
Nah I don't think so. There were fixtures every year for it but the tournament as it was since it moved to u20 has been a shambles and most of the top clubs have half assed it or didn't even field teams. How are management meant to field a decent team when games at this age group aren't even being played. How are you meant to pick a county team when these boys haven't played in three years basically. I'm sure Derry and the likes have got their fixtures in order. Shambles doesn't even come close
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 02, 2022, 07:23:43 AM
Bit of planning doesnt go amiss:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40842155.html

Encouraging performance by the u20s last night.  Soft frees aplenty and that final quarter will hurt for a while but definitely some green shoots of talent there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 02, 2022, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2022, 11:46:08 PM
Sean Duffin a proper player Dreen. You can just see the class oozing out of him. A county Star of the future without a doubt...has got the lot, now if he could be turned into a scoring forward that would be the cherry on the top.

But that wasn't who I had in mind. Let's just say he is bred in the purple to be a senior county footballer. We will be watching this young man for almost as many years as we have been watching his Dad and his uncles.
Sean O Neill, looked tremendous last night. Can play anywhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 02, 2022, 08:46:36 AM
Derry had momentum from their delayed All Ireland minor win, which was only last summer, so the nucleus of their team have tasted major success and bonded well. All the more remarkable then that our U20 management produced a competitive team from scratch and with no functioning U20 club format to work from.  Fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2022, 08:51:09 AM
Indeed EOC. Going to be some fun watching this career develop. Straight out of the Rolls Royce factory.

Shout out to Hugh Aaron Paddy Benny and anyone else involved in producing that performance last night. Credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 02, 2022, 08:52:43 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:28:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2022, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:21:39 AM
Sure what do you expect.
How are you expected to pick a decent u20 team when Antrim haven't hosted a proper u20 tournament/league/championship for the past 3 years, when lads are working generally on Saturday trying to earn a few quid. The "u20 championship" has been a shambles the past few years and most games haven't been played and shite teams have ended up winning a tournament that no team ever bothered with and most withdrew from. Ever since it moved from u21 and the Creggan tournament to what it is now it's the best of a bad lot who want to field a team. How are the u20 management expected to pick a decent squad of emerging players from this if this age group haven't played for the guts of three years. Shambles wouldn't even come close to what it is at the minute.

Glenravel beat st galls in the 2021 u20 A championship final
Lisburn beat Rasharkin the 2021 u20 B championship final



Has there not only been 1 Un20 championship due to covid?
Nah I don't think so. There were fixtures every year for it but the tournament as it was since it moved to u20 has been a shambles and most of the top clubs have half assed it or didn't even field teams. How are management meant to field a decent team when games at this age group aren't even being played. How are you meant to pick a county team when these boys haven't played in three years basically. I'm sure Derry and the likes have got their fixtures in order. Shambles doesn't even come close
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 02, 2022, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2022, 11:46:08 PM
Sean Duffin a proper player Dreen. You can just see the class oozing out of him. A county Star of the future without a doubt...has got the lot, now if he could be turned into a scoring forward that would be the cherry on the top.

But that wasn't who I had in mind. Let's just say he is bred in the purple to be a senior county footballer. We will be watching this young man for almost as many years as we have been watching his Dad and his uncles.
Sean O Neill, looked tremendous last night. Can play anywhere

Sean O'Neill is a class act EOC and has established himself on the senior ranks for a couple of years.
Seems BS missed last night him or his genealogy...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 02, 2022, 09:01:09 AM
For me the difference in the teams last night was L.Murray, a real go to forward for Derry, something we are missing. Derry only scored 5 from play last night, 7 frees, of which id say 4 of them should never have been given.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 02, 2022, 09:14:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 02, 2022, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2022, 11:46:08 PM
Sean Duffin a proper player Dreen. You can just see the class oozing out of him. A county Star of the future without a doubt...has got the lot, now if he could be turned into a scoring forward that would be the cherry on the top.

But that wasn't who I had in mind. Let's just say he is bred in the purple to be a senior county footballer. We will be watching this young man for almost as many years as we have been watching his Dad and his uncles.
Sean O Neill, looked tremendous last night. Can play anywhere

Sean O'Neill is a class act EOC and has established himself on the senior ranks for a couple of years.
Seems BS missed last night him or his genealogy...??

BS doesn't appear to have missed much
CB take a scroll up and have a read.... Either that or your being way 2 cryptic for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 09:28:24 AM
Quote from: Flanker on April 02, 2022, 09:14:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 02, 2022, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2022, 11:46:08 PM
Sean Duffin a proper player Dreen. You can just see the class oozing out of him. A county Star of the future without a doubt...has got the lot, now if he could be turned into a scoring forward that would be the cherry on the top.

But that wasn't who I had in mind. Let's just say he is bred in the purple to be a senior county footballer. We will be watching this young man for almost as many years as we have been watching his Dad and his uncles.
Sean O Neill, looked tremendous last night. Can play anywhere

Sean O'Neill is a class act EOC and has established himself on the senior ranks for a couple of years.
Seems BS missed last night him or his genealogy...??

BS doesn't appear to have missed much
CB take a scroll up and have a read.... Either that or your being way 2 cryptic for me

Think he had to be reminded by an EOC comment....

Sean has been long established in Cargin's senior ranks with 3 championships to date (2 minor + 1 senior and a coupe of league medals)...
BS observed the PG1 connection in Sean Duffin an excellent young talent.....but undoubtedly our Sean is bred in the purple excelling for years at under age and continuing within the senior ranks...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2022, 09:48:44 AM
CB having a senior moment methinks....of course it was SON I'm talking about. It was a well known Saffron Gael reporter from Time who first alerted me to this outrageous talent....

Ps, I didn't know the PG1 connection lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 02, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2022, 09:48:44 AM
CB having a senior moment methinks....of course it was SON I'm talking about. It was a well known Saffron Gael reporter from Time who first alerted me to this outrageous talent....

Ps, I didn't know the PG1 connection lol

Senior or Blonde
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2022, 10:08:42 AM
Quote from: Flanker on April 02, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2022, 09:48:44 AM
CB having a senior moment methinks....of course it was SON I'm talking about. It was a well known Saffron Gael reporter from Time who first alerted me to this outrageous talent....

Ps, I didn't know the PG1 connection lol

Senior or Blonde

Possibly neither
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2022, 09:48:44 AM
CB having a senior moment methinks....of course it was SON I'm talking about. It was a well known Saffron Gael reporter from Time who first alerted me to this outrageous talent....

Ps, I didn't know the PG1 connection lol
But not far from senior Urself....it was Sean Duffin u waxed lyrical about...
When we remain on the subject how come Cargin had a big cintingent on the team but having to work overtime to win back to back minor titles in 2019/20 against Brigids how many Musgrave lad on our u20 team.
And again, having been well beaten in the u20 championship last year how many Milltown men were involved last night.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 10:37:18 AM
'Sean Duffin is a proper player Dreen, you can see the class oozing outa him'.....as per BS.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 02, 2022, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 02, 2022, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2022, 09:48:44 AM
CB having a senior moment methinks....of course it was SON I'm talking about. It was a well known Saffron Gael reporter from Time who first alerted me to this outrageous talent....

Ps, I didn't know the PG1 connection lol
But not far from senior Urself....it was Sean Duffin u waxed lyrical about...
When we remain on the subject how come Cargin had a big cintingent on the team but having to work overtime to win back to back minor titles in 2019/20 against Brigids how many Musgrave lad on our u20 team.
And again, having been well beaten in the u20 championship last year how many Milltown men were involved last night.....

CB scroll up a bit further and read again. Clear as day who BS was talking about. It was Dreen who mentioned 11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2022, 12:35:19 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:28:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2022, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 02, 2022, 01:21:39 AM
Sure what do you expect.
How are you expected to pick a decent u20 team when Antrim haven't hosted a proper u20 tournament/league/championship for the past 3 years, when lads are working generally on Saturday trying to earn a few quid. The "u20 championship" has been a shambles the past few years and most games haven't been played and shite teams have ended up winning a tournament that no team ever bothered with and most withdrew from. Ever since it moved from u21 and the Creggan tournament to what it is now it's the best of a bad lot who want to field a team. How are the u20 management expected to pick a decent squad of emerging players from this if this age group haven't played for the guts of three years. Shambles wouldn't even come close to what it is at the minute.

Has there not only been 1 Un20 championship due to covid?
Nah I don't think so. There were fixtures every year for it but the tournament as it was since it moved to u20 has been a shambles and most of the top clubs have half assed it or didn't even field teams. How are management meant to field a decent team when games at this age group aren't even being played. How are you meant to pick a county team when these boys haven't played in three years basically. I'm sure Derry and the likes have got their fixtures in order. Shambles doesn't even come close

I could of swore that I saw a report in the Saffron Gael that Glenravel were the first winners of the Un20 championship last year. The reason it was such a significant achievement was they were also the first winners of the old Un21 one in the 60s.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 12:49:01 PM
Not as much doom and gloom after all with the youth teams coming up. That was an exceptional performance last night. Players and management can be proud. Mcaleece, Hagan, Hynds, Duffin and O'Neill won't be long stepping up on that evidence. As good a performance as you could have hoped for from that team. Murray for Derry was the difference.
Clubs closer to full strength tomorrow should make things interesting in the league now. Predictions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 02, 2022, 01:35:55 PM
Sean O'Neill a standout player for sure, class
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2022, 02:59:17 PM
I give up lol..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2022, 03:13:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2022, 02:59:17 PM
I give up lol..

Who's the best though bannside? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2022, 04:00:47 PM
Cavan be hard enough beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 02, 2022, 07:49:38 PM
i read during the week that Donal O Cusack thinks Belfast GAA needs a bigger boost than its currently getting - finally someone agrees with me ! LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 08:08:40 PM
BS on the ball with the current emerging talent. Not so much with the current management  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 08:14:32 PM
Brides v St.Galls (brides +3)
Rossa v aghagallon (aghagallon +1)
Gorts v st endas (endas +7)
Creggan v lamh dhearg (Creggan + 5)
TNN v Ahoghill (draw)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 08:23:10 PM
Moneyglass v rasharkin (MG + 4)
Ardoyne v sarsfields (SF + 8)
Davitts v glenavy (glenavy + 2)
Aldergrove v Glenravel (GL b+ 2)
St. Paul's v All Saints (draw)
Dunloy v st tresas (DL + 4)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 02, 2022, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 08:14:32 PM
Brides v St.Galls (brides +3)
Rossa v aghagallon (aghagallon +1)
Gorts v st endas (endas +7)
Creggan v lamh dhearg (Creggan + 5)
TNN v Ahoghill (draw)

Brides?  :o Who the hell are Brides?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 02, 2022, 10:34:07 PM
The U20 club league is some farce. Shameful. If you can't field (or not willing to) then why enter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 10:39:27 PM
Don't blame the clubs! I'm sure they entered with the best of intentions and to give their players the opportunity at least to try to field. How the hell was that ever going to happen on a Saturday when their best players will be at county u20 and a handful of their better players will also be playing senior club most likely the following day. Also factor in part time work as mentioned before. Poor form digging clubs out Ck
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 02, 2022, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: ck on April 02, 2022, 10:34:07 PM
The U20 club league is some farce. Shameful. If you can't field (or not willing to) then why enter?
Clubs expressed their concerns at county meetings but got no where with executive members /Ccc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2022, 10:54:55 PM
Some craic from the barflies tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2022, 12:51:10 AM
What's happening with our under 17s??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 03, 2022, 01:02:33 AM
Heavy defeat this morning against a good monaghan side. Work to be done with this young squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 03, 2022, 02:42:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 12:51:10 AM
What's happening with our under 17s??

Talking  to a club man this evening who has a lad involved. Apparantly the dream team of mgt has not worked out, bit of a shambles , just goes to show no matter how good a player was it bears no relation to how good a manager they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: An Watcher on April 03, 2022, 08:03:20 AM
No disrespect to enda mcginley but i think if antrim had got mickey Harte at this time it would be them celebrating promotion to division 2 today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 09:29:15 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on April 03, 2022, 08:03:20 AM
No disrespect to enda mcginley but i think if antrim had got mickey Harte at this time it would be them celebrating promotion to division 2 today?

But could we afford him.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.

Is it a sought after position? Are people lining up to take the minor managers role?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 03, 2022, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 09:29:15 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on April 03, 2022, 08:03:20 AM
No disrespect to enda mcginley but i think if antrim had got mickey Harte at this time it would be them celebrating promotion to division 2 today?

But could we afford him.....??

No chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 03, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.

Is it a sought after position? Are people lining up to take the minor managers role?

Do people think there is a queue to take these development squads ?? Quite literally any of us could rock up and ask to do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 03, 2022, 11:35:35 AM
Shouldn't launch sole blame at u17 management. How long have they had with the team? A handful of months at most. If the players aren't there and/or they are a few years behind in physical development as we keep hearing, then what is anyone supposed to do with that over a couple of months? We all know the answers are structure, planning, proper player pathway environment from u14 up etc etc etc etc etc. let's hope the director of football is on the case as we type.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 03, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.

Is it a sought after position? Are people lining up to take the minor managers role?

Do people think there is a queue to take these development squads ?? Quite literally any of us could rock up and ask to do it

That's what I'm getting at, for some reason people think that's there's an interview process with multiple eager coaches with all their level 3 coaching certs and so on...

But we've an army of armchair coaches just willing to do feck all and stick the boot into the coaches who (for whatever reason) took the role on. Wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 12:23:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 03, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.

Is it a sought after position? Are people lining up to take the minor managers role?

Do people think there is a queue to take these development squads ?? Quite literally any of us could rock up and ask to do it

That's what I'm getting at, for some reason people think that's there's an interview process with multiple eager coaches with all their level 3 coaching certs and so on...

But we've an army of armchair coaches just willing to do feck all and stick the boot into the coaches who (for whatever reason) took the role on. Wise up
And more than a few of those 'snipers' on this board....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2022, 12:24:03 PM
Who is in charge of the Un17s?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 03, 2022, 12:24:03 PM
Who is in charge of the Un17s?
Paul.Mc Erlean is the manager PJ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2022, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 03, 2022, 12:24:03 PM
Who is in charge of the Un17s?
Paul.Mc Erlean is the manager PJ....

Thanks CB..Backroom team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
Barry Burns and Paul McErlane joint managers I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 03, 2022, 02:34:32 PM
I think the minors play Monaghan in the championship.  It'll be very hard to lift it after a series of drubbings in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2022, 02:40:57 PM
On a discussion forum dedicated to Antrim GAA, a poster questions a uniquely poor run of results by county minors. I don't recall us every being beaten on such a regular basis by double digit scorelines like that. Is this not something that we should be discussing?

Have we fallen so low that we don't question seriously high double digit defeats any more. Are we accepting this now as the new norm? Can anything be done to improve the situation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 03, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2022, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.

Is it a sought after position? Are people lining up to take the minor managers role?

Do people think there is a queue to take these development squads ?? Quite literally any of us could rock up and ask to do it

That's what I'm getting at, for some reason people think that's there's an interview process with multiple eager coaches with all their level 3 coaching certs and so on...

But we've an army of armchair coaches just willing to do feck all and stick the boot into the coaches who (for whatever reason) took the role on. Wise up
This is the sort of mentality that leads to us accepting being hammered every week. These guys asked to take the job. Interviewed and got it ahead of another management team, even making some bold predictions in doing so. Criticism is fully warranted. Even the most limited coach can set a team up to not concede heavily. Just shows how poor this management is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 02:40:57 PM
On a discussion forum dedicated to Antrim GAA, a poster questions a uniquely poor run of results by county minors. I don't recall us every being beaten on such a regular basis by double digit scorelines like that. Is this not something that we should be discussing?

Have we fallen so low that we don't question seriously high double digit defeats any more. Are we accepting this now as the new norm? Can anything be done to improve the situation?

Yep, something can be done BS easy enough to blame management but if you lose the fundamental lose the argument.
Clubs are the basis of our county teams and we supply the ingredients of such.

As a matter of interest how many young lads from PG1 are on the present squad, or do you believe their are youngsters within who were ignored?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2022, 04:26:32 PM
Look I was interested to see how they done, went on to Ulster results website and was shocked at seeing our four last results. We are minus 56 after four games - an average of 14 points a game. That's a horrible stat, and even worse than we are used to seeing.

Look none of us have massive expectations in this sector atm for reasons we have discussed infinitum. I've no axe to grind with management, no agenda whatsoever. And yes CB, clubs is where ultimate lead role responsibility must take place for player development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 03, 2022, 07:26:26 PM
No major surprises today. Maybe Creggan's margin of victory in div 1, rasharkin running moneyglass to the minimum away and All Saints extremely comfortable v St Paus in div 2. A full round of seriously tight contests in div 3 by the looks of things too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 03, 2022, 07:44:37 PM
Watched Ahoghill win again write the Clooney boys off at your peril......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2022, 08:13:08 PM
That's PG1's next assignment, in Cloney on Wednesday night. Will more than likely be the usual dogfight.

All Saints win today the standout result as is Creggans further public demonstration of their current wellbeing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 03, 2022, 08:14:55 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 03, 2022, 07:26:26 PM
No major surprises today. Maybe Creggan's margin of victory in div 1, rasharkin running moneyglass to the minimum away and All Saints extremely comfortable v St Paus in div 2. A full round of seriously tight contests in div 3 by the looks of things too.

Moneyglass fairly dominant
Could've done with the goalposts on wheels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 03, 2022, 10:05:57 PM
Quote from: bannside
link=topic=21.msg2113055#msg2113055 date=1649013188
That's PG1's next assignment, in Cloney on Wednesday night. Will more than likely be the usual dogfight.

The highlight of their year, staying up and stopping us playing ball.

All Saints win today the standout result as is Creggans further public demonstration of their current wellbeing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
st teresa's seem to be in a bad way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2022, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 03, 2022, 11:35:35 AM
Shouldn't launch sole blame at u17 management. How long have they had with the team? A handful of months at most. If the players aren't there and/or they are a few years behind in physical development as we keep hearing, then what is anyone supposed to do with that over a couple of months? We all know the answers are structure, planning, proper player pathway environment from u14 up etc etc etc etc etc. let's hope the director of football is on the case as we type.

Couple years, they had them at u16 as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 04, 2022, 10:45:32 AM
Does the league split top 6 or top 7?

Any more on how many get relegated?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2022, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 04, 2022, 10:45:32 AM
Does the league split top 6 or top 7?

Any more on how many get relegated?



yep, going to be a split. Heard relegation going to be linked to championship group performance as well as league position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 04, 2022, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2022, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 04, 2022, 10:45:32 AM
Does the league split top 6 or top 7?

Any more on how many get relegated?



yep, going to be a split. Heard relegation going to be linked to championship group performance as well as league position.
For 2022, Bottom team relegated and 2nd Bottom in relegation Play off with R/ up in league below.
Leagues likely to be restructured in 2023
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 04, 2022, 06:24:52 PM
Seems the Lamhs have absolutely no interest in the league.....arrived at the Staffordstown road on Sunday with a skeleton crew on board...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2022, 06:42:17 PM
Pick your fights....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 04, 2022, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 02, 2022, 10:39:27 PM
Don't blame the clubs! I'm sure they entered with the best of intentions and to give their players the opportunity at least to try to field. How the hell was that ever going to happen on a Saturday when their best players will be at county u20 and a handful of their better players will also be playing senior club most likely the following day. Also factor in part time work as mentioned before. Poor form digging clubs out Ck

Easy to blame the county committee. My understanding is that they put a proposal to the clubs which was accepted. So why accept it and then choose not to field? Every week.
County players played the night before. Play without them. The whole point is to bridge the gap between 17s and senior so just get the youngsters out and play. I don't see anything but fault with clubs on this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 05, 2022, 08:18:10 AM
County players played the night before? County u20 league games were all Saturday's. Club u20's also scheduled for Saturdays. Yes, excellent move by the 'county committee' or whoever you're referring to. It's all the clubs fault, I see that now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2022, 08:42:12 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 05, 2022, 08:18:10 AM
County players played the night before? County u20 league games were all Saturday's. Club u20's also scheduled for Saturdays. Yes, excellent move by the 'county committee' or whoever you're referring to. It's all the clubs fault, I see that now.

But if the clubs accepted it at the start knowing the fixture headache it would provide, why enter teams if you thought it was going to be difficult?

The problem the real problem is trying to stick in dates that suit, not just for under 20's but all the grades and codes, schools and uni's .. If we'd a few facilities like the Connacht GAA Centre of Excellence where games can be run off in the winter then a meaningful competition would be met with no hicups

Now where can we get €20 million
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 05, 2022, 10:52:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 05, 2022, 08:18:10 AM
County players played the night before? County u20 league games were all Saturday's. Club u20's also scheduled for Saturdays. Yes, excellent move by the 'county committee' or whoever you're referring to. It's all the clubs fault, I see that now.

The clubs ACCEPTED the proposal! No-one else, the clubs!
Why accept it if you then say you cannot field. My club knew they would be without players, they knew there were many challenges, but accepted it anyway just to give the younger lads meaningful games. That's the whole point! Just let them get out and play. League results don't matter, just give them games. Just put out last years U17s.
If we all wait until we have a full team then very few fixtures would be fulfilled.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 05, 2022, 11:41:14 AM
U20 league is not fit for purpose and clubs can't take the blame on this. This is a result of the age group moves and personally I think we need back to u18 again next year.
The county are in a situation of trying to create something here that shouldn't be in the mix at all.
This year's competition will run poor, let's hope the significant change made so from next year it will work for us all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 05, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
Wonder if BS has visited an office of 'Boylesports' recently...?

PG1 have been reduced from 12/1 to 7/1 to win the senior championship 2022....

Creggan are a generous 100/30.....with Cargin at a prohibitive 2/1 and L D at 3/1....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 05, 2022, 01:47:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
Wonder if BS has visited an office of 'Boylesports' recently...?

PG1 have been reduced from 12/1 to 7/1 to win the senior championship 2022....

Creggan are a generous 100/30.....with Cargin at a prohibitive 2/1 and L D at 3/1....

TBF.. 12/1 was very generous for PG1, still wouldn't have money on them though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 05, 2022, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 05, 2022, 01:47:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
Wonder if BS has visited an office of 'Boylesports' recently...?

PG1 have been reduced from 12/1 to 7/1 to win the senior championship 2022....

Creggan are a generous 100/30.....with Cargin at a prohibitive 2/1 and L D at 3/1....

TBF.. 12/1 was very generous for PG1, still wouldn't have money on them though

Neither would i straight, but each way on the handy side of the draw is a good shout surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2022, 02:21:26 PM
Jesus, the mind games have started brave and early
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 05, 2022, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 05, 2022, 01:47:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
Wonder if BS has visited an office of 'Boylesports' recently...?

PG1 have been reduced from 12/1 to 7/1 to win the senior championship 2022....

Creggan are a generous 100/30.....with Cargin at a prohibitive 2/1 and L D at 3/1....

TBF.. 12/1 was very generous for PG1, still wouldn't have money on them though

Was 12/1 prior to the draw being made ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 05, 2022, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
Wonder if BS has visited an office of 'Boylesports' recently...?

PG1 have been reduced from 12/1 to 7/1 to win the senior championship 2022....

Creggan are a generous 100/30.....with Cargin at a prohibitive 2/1 and L D at 3/1....

Boylesports must have the inside track on who is refereeing the Cargin Games  ;)

Initially looks harsh on LD
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2022, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 05, 2022, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 05, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
Wonder if BS has visited an office of 'Boylesports' recently...?

PG1 have been reduced from 12/1 to 7/1 to win the senior championship 2022....

Creggan are a generous 100/30.....with Cargin at a prohibitive 2/1 and L D at 3/1....

Boylesports must have the inside track on who is refereeing the Cargin Games  ;)

Initially looks harsh on LD

Unfair on Creggan  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 05, 2022, 05:18:54 PM
That means if you have 20 quid on casements, you lose 20 quid. Hope I'm wrong but can't see us winning a championship this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 05, 2022, 05:34:00 PM
That's where my money is going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 05, 2022, 05:55:19 PM
Johnnies at 16s very unlucky last year! If they get fitzpatrick out I'd be having a nibble on them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 05, 2022, 07:22:32 PM
There's always an upset or two in most championships, no one unbeatable in Antrim any more, makes it all much more interesting. I got a bit of 12/1 each way on Casements, thought the odds were big. Creggan massive price at 10/3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 05, 2022, 08:32:31 PM
With that draw you got anything other than a final will be a failure for you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 05, 2022, 10:39:14 PM
Cargin V PG1 final.

Creggan are like Rangers. Spent a fortune and are one season wonders during a covid year.

😉😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 06, 2022, 08:33:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 05, 2022, 10:39:14 PM
Cargin V PG1 final.

Creggan are like Rangers. Spent a fortune and are one season wonders during a covid year.

😉😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 06, 2022, 08:38:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 05, 2022, 10:39:14 PM
Cargin V PG1 final.

Creggan are like Rangers. Spent a fortune and are one season wonders during a covid year.

😉😉

Big shout PJ as some would suggest those Toome men are struggling to retain their status.
True the draw has opened up an easy access to the Bannisiders but Cargin have a tougher road to travel.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 06, 2022, 09:02:34 AM
Bookies have Cargin favourites for a reason. 9 county panellists last year, 8 county under 20 panellists this year, as we have been reminded by CB on numerous occasions, speaks volumes for the wellbeing of Cargin. No one touting the demise of Erins Own anytime soon...in fact it's obvious the conveyor belt is as strong as ever. Still the club to beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 06, 2022, 09:45:11 AM
Facts are facts BS but I must have been having as you passed remark a 'senior moment' when I said one a singular occasion on Cargin's number within 'senior county panel'.
I did state 5 senior and 8 under 20s....

Indeed the latter figure points to the well established under age development within and the further encouragement received in South Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 06, 2022, 09:49:35 AM
6 u20s called into senior panel and 1 already there, building for the future
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 06, 2022, 09:57:56 AM
I said LAST year's senior panel, wasn't there 17 players on it shared between Cargin and Creggan representatives? I take it players like Bradso and Justy etc are still involved with you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 06, 2022, 12:07:07 PM
st enda v tir na nog   home
ahoghill v pg1           away
ld v johnnies             away
cargin v st b's           home
aghagallon v creggan  away
galls v gorts               home
daviits v all saints      away
grove v sarsfields      home
mglass v glenavy      home
dunloy v glenravel     away
st t's v rasharkin       away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 06, 2022, 01:38:20 PM
Wouldn't be confident Creggan minus county contingent will take the points up at Aghagallon....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 06, 2022, 05:28:21 PM
Don't forget today is the first of Ahoghill's 4 important matches this year. Doesn't matter what they do in any other game if they can beat us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 06, 2022, 09:00:31 PM
I rest my case.
We need to get over this mental block we have off playing Ahoghill that's the bottom line.
However if they showed the same attitude and commitment and FIGHT against all teams they would never have to worry about relegation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 06, 2022, 09:02:05 PM
St Brigids down visiting tonight, with their hi tech video equipment. The Braveheart soundtrack must of been on coming down the M2. A lot of off the ball stuff, a lot of very well spoken slabbering from their players, management and supporters but true to form nothing to back up the bravado. Our young team should of won by more.
Big win for Tir na Nog tonight, that caught my eye.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2022, 09:03:38 PM
4 one point wins and 2 walkovers in div 1 tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 06, 2022, 09:26:46 PM
Randall's town in division one and Davitts beating ballymena in division two standout results. Davitts have had a few good results I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 06, 2022, 10:08:47 PM
Ahoghill gave us our fill of it as usual, even with a a handful of usual starters missing. On the other hand Casements missed a bagful of chances, so sets things up nicely for the championship encounter in a few months.

Some people may scoff it's only the league and all that nonsense - the reality is there's lots of honest competition amongst those who are available. Still better entertainment than the shoot out between two dominant clubs for a decade. Plus ..it's a 20 to 25 man panel needed to win a championship so lots of time for managers to blood players and blend them in.

Championship the big show but make no mistake, there's an advantage in being seeded, so all club's with championship aspirations will be looking to finish in a top four league position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 06, 2022, 10:15:09 PM
Glad to be through it BS, guaranteed to be 60 to 70 mins of basically unwatchable stuff, with one side trying for a nil nil draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on April 06, 2022, 10:18:03 PM
You're seeded through the championship. The 4 semi finalists for the following year. Not the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 06, 2022, 10:25:30 PM
Thanks for that correction. It used to be top four league....was that changed to last 4 standing in cship at some point? Maybe I'm having a senior moment lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on April 06, 2022, 10:31:57 PM
It been like that for the past few years at least
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 06, 2022, 10:41:15 PM
Gorts atrocious again tonight. Looked like they weren't going to score at all. They would struggle at the bottom end of division 2 at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 06, 2022, 10:43:23 PM
Gorts nailed on for relegation is it another straight down or do they play off with 2nd in Div2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 08:15:52 AM
Anybody any idea as to why the football league ar continuing at such a break neck pace..?
Wonder will the hurling league continue at a similar pace....?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
BS and Rc, not much seems to have changed with PG1 since Barry Dillons tenure, still struggling to get past the like of Ahoghill, i thought yous were saying with the messiah and God involved PG1 would move up through the gears?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2022, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 06, 2022, 10:41:15 PM
Gorts atrocious again tonight. Looked like they weren't going to score at all. They would struggle at the bottom end of division 2 at the minute.

Gorts wanted to enter the intermediate championship this year, but when given the option of doing this tied with moving to div2 they decided to stay div1 . A bad move, they were always going to struggle and there is nothing as morale sapping as getting hammered week in week out at the bottom of the division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 08:48:57 AM
Hearing a hotly disputed injury time penalty awarded deep in time added ended the Johnnies winning run..

Wonder who was the ref...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 08:48:57 AM
Hearing a hotly disputed injury time penalty awarded deep in time added ended the Johnnies winning run..

Wonder who was the ref...??

Maybe someone who doesn't roll over to making tough calls? Yes the glorified reserve game was a thriller, it broke out into a game with 2 minutes left on the clock with a goal at each end and a 'coming together' of players to finish it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The paranoia is strong along the shore, childish stuff, but I suppose expected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I believe what you have just did there is called gaslighting

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The paranoia is strong along the shore, childish stuff, but I suppose expected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I believe what you have just did there is called gaslighting

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The paranoia is strong along the shore, childish stuff, but I suppose expected

I was actually down to do your game last night but was changed as someone was unavailable for that game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 10:17:07 AM
McDonald injured then?


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I believe what you have just did there is called gaslighting

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The paranoia is strong along the shore, childish stuff, but I suppose expected

I was actually down to do your game last night but was changed as someone was unavailable for that game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 10:17:07 AM
McDonald injured then?


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I believe what you have just did there is called gaslighting

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The paranoia is strong along the shore, childish stuff, but I suppose expected

I was actually down to do your game last night but was changed as someone was unavailable for that game

Let it go let it go..... Some craic, good to see we are living rent free in your head  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 07, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The latter shouldn't be allowed to referee a game of bowls never mind Div 1. Worst I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 07, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
Out of interest, what is the extent of the support available to our club referees? Do you get assessed regularly? Is there regular training events or workshops throughout the year? Is there performance analysis available to you or any form of mentor dialogue to help you self assess and review? I know it's difficult to get referees in general and we should be thankful people take up the whistle at all, but I'd like to think they get well supported for their efforts. Surely it would be a win win for all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 07, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
Out of interest, what is the extent of the support available to our club referees? Do you get assessed regularly? Is there regular training events or workshops throughout the year? Is there performance analysis available to you or any form of mentor dialogue to help you self assess and review? I know it's difficult to get referees in general and we should be thankful people take up the whistle at all, but I'd like to think they get well supported for their efforts. Surely it would be a win win for all concerned.

There is an inhouse meeting every year that all the referees have to attend and is usually chaired and covered by the referee trainer from the Ulster council who'll go through the rule changes, there is also a wide range of clips of games were we discuss the possible fouls and what sanctions need to be applied for it. A review of the following season with any other business thrown in to make the referees aware or revisit previous calls or rule applications.

There is an online test that at county level needs to be passed (pass mark 80%) its also time limited, We've regular emails with the referee team on rules knowledge and a whatsapp to air any queries on things..

The fitness test is a beep test that must be completed (due to covid the last couple of years it has been suspended) you must pass this test to be picked for championship games.

We have a lot of intercounty referee's at present who have an even harder set of rules/fitness guidelines to be passed, they are assessed at every game they do in intercounty..

As for assessment in the Antrim leagues I've had assessments before but not recently I'm sure other referee's have been assessed. Its a detailed report with all the good and bad feedback needed to be used to help you.

There are also people in each code of senior referee's that you can call and get help with if you need it.

Other than that we go to games on our own and try and get it right, but we aint perfect and neither are players/supporters or managers. If we make a mistake its not on purpose.

The number of games we have to referee's  with amount of referee's we have is nowhere near enough, a referee could be out 7 days a week, in some cases they are doing 2 in one day, which I did recently.

So don't be afraid, its a thankless task with abuse thrown in for the craic, I don't know why we haven't people lining up and trying it ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 07, 2022, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 07, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The latter shouldn't be allowed to referee a game of bowls never mind Div 1. Worst I have ever seen.

When are you signing up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 07, 2022, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 07, 2022, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 07, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The latter shouldn't be allowed to referee a game of bowls never mind Div 1. Worst I have ever seen.

When are you signing up?

During matches I take great pleasure in asking smart mouths when they are doing the next referee's course, or ask if they have ever bothered to look at the Official Guide. It normally shuts people up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 07, 2022, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 07, 2022, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 07, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The latter shouldn't be allowed to referee a game of bowls never mind Div 1. Worst I have ever seen.

When are you signing up?

During matches I take great pleasure in asking smart mouths when they are doing the next referee's course, or ask if they have ever bothered to look at the Official Guide. It normally shuts people up.

Now now, show respect get respect  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 07, 2022, 01:36:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 07, 2022, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 07, 2022, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 07, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
It's ok CB MR2 will collect his 'Anto Miles', now who is next in the pot of trusted 4 to ref LD is it McDonald, Parke or McCotter?

The latter shouldn't be allowed to referee a game of bowls never mind Div 1. Worst I have ever seen.

When are you signing up?

During matches I take great pleasure in asking smart mouths when they are doing the next referee's course, or ask if they have ever bothered to look at the Official Guide. It normally shuts people up.

Now now, show respect get respect  ;D ;D ;D

that does work 2 ways
sometimes  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 07, 2022, 01:58:25 PM
Thanks MR2, that's informative and good to know there's a bit of a support base there within Antrim. It would be good to see a bit more being done for you all though. Thankless job as we all know. Personally, I'd just like to see more consistency of the rules being applied. It's so frustrating going to matches and seeing fouls being blown one week and the same, or worse, not being given the next.

2 Games I've seen in the last few days were last night (barely heard a whistle) and last Friday at the county u20 match. With that ref, player's couldn't raise a hand to tackle without the whistle going. Supporters, players and coaches never really know what they're going to get until the game throws in unfortunately a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 07, 2022, 01:58:25 PM
Thanks MR2, that's informative and good to know there's a bit of a support base there within Antrim. It would be good to see a bit more being done for you all though. Thankless job as we all know. Personally, I'd just like to see more consistency of the rules being applied. It's so frustrating going to matches and seeing fouls being blown one week and the same, or worse, not being given the next.

2 Games I've seen in the last few days were last night (barely heard a whistle) and last Friday at the county u20 match. With that ref, player's couldn't raise a hand to tackle without the whistle going. Supporters, players and coaches never really know what they're going to get until the game throws in unfortunately a lot of the time.

I get that, but they are only human and will never get all the angles right to see what it is others see, I'd a player come up to me saying how could I have given a call 70 yards away? I was on the 40 and the foul was on the 14 yard line, he wasn't even close!

Remember the referee's are all ex players, still supporters of their own clubs and will (privately) question decisions made during games they get to watch of their own club. Players are trying to con the ref all the time, and umpires calling for points when they are well wide.

I think supporters and players/managers get it in their head that a ref has it in for them, all banter aside on here, that couldn't be further away from the truth. They are only concerned with their own club and how they do, what other teams get up to is out of their control.

I think If players actually listened or heard a recording of how they speak to a referee it may embarrass them enough to keep quiet, even stonewall fouls are questioned every time.

Inter-County referees like I said earlier are assessed to within an inch of their life, 90% of players do not play at that level, if all the referee's applied the rules there would be no contact games, in effect it would become ladies football, I'm happy to work like that, but it would bring on more gurning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 07, 2022, 03:07:55 PM
I agree with you, I took the time to actually read the rules a few years back when I was badgered into taking the u14's. The game would suffer if refs completely applied the book to the letter. It would be great in an ideal world if everyone's version of 'common sense' was the same in applying the rules. I'm sure if we (supporters) we're videoed and mic'd up there would be plenty of embarrassment and belated apologies coming the way of the refs. Rules tests should be part and parcel of being allowed to take a team as well I feel. Sidelines have been a disgrace for a long time. I still wouldn't take my kids anywhere near a dug out when going to a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
To be fair I think that each referee should hold a session with all their teams from minors up each season akin to that the referee has to go through himself in relation to the rules etc, take time to explain the rules, what is new, what a player misunderstands. What amazes me most what you notice from watching games is that even after a good few years some club players do not understand the kick out mark rule! If all refs did this no player or manager has an excuse to question technically correct decisions. The ref should not be out of pocket either as if this is a sole football club he could have at least 4 teams to do this with therefore their club should be sorting them out for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 07, 2022, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 07, 2022, 03:07:55 PM
I agree with you, I took the time to actually read the rules a few years back when I was badgered into taking the u14's. The game would suffer if refs completely applied the book to the letter. It would be great in an ideal world if everyone's version of 'common sense' was the same in applying the rules. I'm sure if we (supporters) we're videoed and mic'd up there would be plenty of embarrassment and belated apologies coming the way of the refs. Rules tests should be part and parcel of being allowed to take a team as well I feel. Sidelines have been a disgrace for a long time. I still wouldn't take my kids anywhere near a dug out when going to a game.

Now there's a bloody great idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
To be fair I think that each referee should hold a session with all their teams from minors up each season akin to that the referee has to go through himself in relation to the rules etc, take time to explain the rules, what is new, what a player misunderstands. What amazes me most what you notice from watching games is that even after a good few years some club players do not understand the kick out mark rule! If all refs did this no player or manager has an excuse to question technically correct decisions. The ref should not be out of pocket either as if this is a sole football club he could have at least 4 teams to do this with therefore their club should be sorting them out for it

I've went to teams during championship and went through what way I'm going to referee the game and if they have any questions in relation to the rules or how I'll apply them. I've no problem doing that again, I hope at the time it gave the players a view point that they hadn't asked before. Ive done this as a manager as Tyrdub will testify one night in Casement!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 07, 2022, 09:49:08 PM
not slabbering just asking - is there a time limit on o long a ref plays advantage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 07, 2022, 09:49:08 PM
not slabbering just asking - is there a time limit on o long a ref plays advantage?

5 seconds depends how long you count or how quick you count
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:11:01 PM
 I know wtf like an absolute disgrace. Played 4 won 4, I mean what are they playing at, jeez. You obviously aren't aware of our history with Ahoghill. On a separate note I think messiah is a bit strong and aren't expecting miracles, just improvement. Also reality is JMcK will be given a bit more leniency as he is "one of our own", have you counted how many times Peter Canavan has been seen this year in pg1?

Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
BS and Rc, not much seems to have changed with PG1 since Barry Dillons tenure, still struggling to get past the like of Ahoghill, i thought yous were saying with the messiah and God involved PG1 would move up through the gears?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:11:01 PM
I know wtf like an absolute disgrace. Played 4 won 4, I mean what are they playing at, jeez. You obviously aren't aware of our history with Ahoghill. On a separate note I think messiah is a bit strong and aren't expecting miracles, just improvement. Also reality is JMcK will be given a bit more leniency as he is "one of our own", have you counted how many times Peter Canavan has been seen this year in pg1?

Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
BS and Rc, not much seems to have changed with PG1 since Barry Dillons tenure, still struggling to get past the like of Ahoghill, i thought yous were saying with the messiah and God involved PG1 would move up through the gears?

Jeez RC, only beating a Cloney team.missing a number of influential.players by a point does not hint at a team going places and to be considered serious contenders....

Do you really believe .....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:31:01 PM
You would want to read my message carefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:31:01 PM
You would want to read my message carefully.

I did..and have a young nephew In your tanks but for the life of me I cannot see PG1 as serious contenders.
True you do have a passage to the last four less testing that most but as to contenders for a senior title I feel a strong bench and a couple of minor titles gained is a must.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:31:01 PM
You would want to read my message carefully.

Only my humble opinion....sorry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:48:14 PM
If you read my posts I don't consider us a serious contenders either but I do see improvement and that's what we want. Ahoghill can't be used as a barometer because they raide their game 400% against us, put 15 behind the ball, pull drag and kick, we should have done better but conditions were horrendous, pleasing to see a bit of bottle towards the end.

Quote from: country bumpkin on April 07, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 07, 2022, 10:31:01 PM
You would want to read my message carefully.

I did..and have a young nephew In your tanks but for the life of me I cannot see PG1 as serious contenders.
True you do have a passage to the last four less testing that most but as to contenders for a senior title I feel a strong bench and a couple of minor titles gained is a must.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 08:50:07 AM
oisin kerr has left the senior panel ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 08, 2022, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
To be fair I think that each referee should hold a session with all their teams from minors up each season akin to that the referee has to go through himself in relation to the rules etc, take time to explain the rules, what is new, what a player misunderstands. What amazes me most what you notice from watching games is that even after a good few years some club players do not understand the kick out mark rule! If all refs did this no player or manager has an excuse to question technically correct decisions. The ref should not be out of pocket either as if this is a sole football club he could have at least 4 teams to do this with therefore their club should be sorting them out for it

I've went to teams during championship and went through what way I'm going to referee the game and if they have any questions in relation to the rules or how I'll apply them. I've no problem doing that again, I hope at the time it gave the players a view point that they hadn't asked before. Ive done this as a manager as Tyrdub will testify one night in Casement!

Did I happen to send you off that night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2022, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 08, 2022, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
To be fair I think that each referee should hold a session with all their teams from minors up each season akin to that the referee has to go through himself in relation to the rules etc, take time to explain the rules, what is new, what a player misunderstands. What amazes me most what you notice from watching games is that even after a good few years some club players do not understand the kick out mark rule! If all refs did this no player or manager has an excuse to question technically correct decisions. The ref should not be out of pocket either as if this is a sole football club he could have at least 4 teams to do this with therefore their club should be sorting them out for it

I've went to teams during championship and went through what way I'm going to referee the game and if they have any questions in relation to the rules or how I'll apply them. I've no problem doing that again, I hope at the time it gave the players a view point that they hadn't asked before. Ive done this as a manager as Tyrdub will testify one night in Casement!

Did I happen to send you off that night?

Never in hurling have I been sent off ... Football, well couple of times, one for abuse to a ref lol, totally deserved  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 08, 2022, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 08:50:07 AM
oisin kerr has left the senior panel ffs

Again....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 09:56:39 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 08, 2022, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 08:50:07 AM
oisin kerr has left the senior panel ffs

Again....?

Appears so, and Luke Mulholland going to the states
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 10:39:18 AM
Who does that leave? The Rossa kid and anyone else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 08, 2022, 10:51:02 AM
I read John mcNabb from Cargin kicked half of the toome men's scores in a gael force wind to beat brides. Get him in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 08, 2022, 11:03:35 AM
While John is a good keeper and kicked some great scores the other night his temperament just is not right for that level he always gets involved in silly things in games which could be very costly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 08, 2022, 11:20:47 AM
What are the options out there? Who is the best of the rest? It would be interesting to go down the route of an experienced outfielder minding the nets. I see Louth joined the list of county's going that route this year also.

Could a CJ McGourty, Paddy Cunningham, Kevin Niblock, Sean McVeigh for example for the bill?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 11:37:39 AM
My immediate thoughts were an outfield player, maybe soccer type player. Only one man for the job Bam Neeson
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 11:41:06 AM
deccy heery has been called up as a keeper
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 08, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
has byrne retired?  give him a chance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 08, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
has byrne retired?  give him a chance!

Mick will get his shot at making the no1 jersey his own now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 08, 2022, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 11:47:51 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 08, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
has byrne retired?  give him a chance!

Mick will get his shot at making the no1 jersey his own now

and rightly so!  if Oisin has stepped away then Byrne should get a crack at it.  That is what he has been training hard for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 12:36:29 PM
Oh I was talking about backup to him!. I always liked the Rasharkin lad Hasson but don't think he has played in goals as long time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 08, 2022, 12:39:12 PM
Was Oisin Kerr the only one to walk away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 08, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: toby47 on April 08, 2022, 12:39:12 PM
Was Oisin Kerr the only one to walk away?

Not sure but one thing is certain and that is a huge buy in from the players is needed this pre-season in order to keep moving forward. I can see it as being make or break.  We cannot stand still otherwise we will be clinging on for survival rather than taking the brave step forward towards Div 2.  Need followers who believe in the journey on board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 08, 2022, 12:54:19 PM
I thought Byrne was the pick of them anyway from what I've seen of him when playing for Rossa. Why did Kerr leave?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 08, 2022, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2022, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 08, 2022, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2022, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 07, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
To be fair I think that each referee should hold a session with all their teams from minors up each season akin to that the referee has to go through himself in relation to the rules etc, take time to explain the rules, what is new, what a player misunderstands. What amazes me most what you notice from watching games is that even after a good few years some club players do not understand the kick out mark rule! If all refs did this no player or manager has an excuse to question technically correct decisions. The ref should not be out of pocket either as if this is a sole football club he could have at least 4 teams to do this with therefore their club should be sorting them out for it

I've went to teams during championship and went through what way I'm going to referee the game and if they have any questions in relation to the rules or how I'll apply them. I've no problem doing that again, I hope at the time it gave the players a view point that they hadn't asked before. Ive done this as a manager as Tyrdub will testify one night in Casement!

Did I happen to send you off that night?

Never in hurling have I been sent off ... Football, well couple of times, one for abuse to a ref lol, totally deserved  ;)

Deadly

love it  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 09:35:47 PM
Was at reserve game tonight and great to see attacking football and more importantly men enjoying the game they were playing, great entertainment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 08, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 08, 2022, 08:50:07 AM
oisin kerr has left the senior panel ffs
Left panel after being dropped for last league game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 08, 2022, 11:21:18 PM
I imagine the Antrim panel won't be Kerr free for championship 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 11:35:27 PM
If Luke Mullholland goes to States does that rule him out for championship? With respect if it does Aghagallon aren't getting to the heights they did last year with out him. Serious baller and tactical mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 09, 2022, 12:42:15 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 11:35:27 PM
If Luke Mullholland goes to States does that rule him out for championship? With respect if it does Aghagallon aren't getting to the heights they did last year with out him. Serious baller and tactical mind.

Don't rate Luke so highly Rc, had a few mares for club and county las season, Oisin went to pieces in the Limerick and Louth games, so Mick is getting his chance by default, he's a really good keeper, bit of a wing nut but sure most good keepers are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 09, 2022, 06:50:33 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 11:35:27 PM
If Luke Mullholland goes to States does that rule him out for championship? With respect if it does Aghagallon aren't getting to the heights they did last year with out him. Serious baller and tactical mind.

A tactical mind?  :o What do you base that on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 09, 2022, 08:39:40 AM
Luke a great keeper in my book and definitely a huge loss to his club. Kickouts are top notch. Let the young man enjoy his summer in the states and I'm sure he will be back contesting the county no 1 spot with Michael next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 09, 2022, 08:50:14 AM
Tactical mind wrong use of words. I'll replace it with fantastic vision when standing over his kickouts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2022, 08:52:03 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 08, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: toby47 on April 08, 2022, 12:39:12 PM
Was Oisin Kerr the only one to walk away?

Not sure but one thing is certain and that is a huge buy in from the players is needed this pre-season in order to keep moving forward. I can see it as being make or break.  We cannot stand still otherwise we will be clinging on for survival rather than taking the brave step forward towards Div 2.  Need followers who believe in the journey on board

Dunno what you men by 'huge buy in' Spike the programme for those on the panel this year has demanded huge commitment, 4/5 sessions per week which obviously meant socialising was almost non existent.

'Buy in' was not a problem for those who gave up a lot in the Saffron cause. Our problem, and excluding those who were called did not answer, is a lack of talent within our county and I would ask you to consider the make up of our under 20 team which came close to upsetting Derry with one club responsible for supplying about 30% of the panel.

Lotta noise about those who Mc Ginley missed in his call to arms, but just where are those talented who can raise our profile....?
Watch a lot of football, and cannot see those who can gallop to Antrims rescue....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2022, 09:10:36 AM
Jesus  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 09, 2022, 10:37:40 AM
Lotta noise! One of the 30% musn't have got a call up? I'd say the nephew got one all the same, Yes/No. Definitely good enough to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 09, 2022, 10:55:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2022, 08:52:03 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 08, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: toby47 on April 08, 2022, 12:39:12 PM
Was Oisin Kerr the only one to walk away?

Not sure but one thing is certain and that is a huge buy in from the players is needed this pre-season in order to keep moving forward. I can see it as being make or break.  We cannot stand still otherwise we will be clinging on for survival rather than taking the brave step forward towards Div 2.  Need followers who believe in the journey on board

Dunno what you men by 'huge buy in' Spike the programme for those on the panel this year has demanded huge commitment, 4/5 sessions per week which obviously meant socialising was almost non existent.

'Buy in' was not a problem for those who gave up a lot in the Saffron cause. Our problem, and excluding those who were called did not answer, is a lack of talent within our county and I would ask you to consider the make up of our under 20 team which came close to upsetting Derry with one club responsible for supplying about 30% of the panel.

Lotta noise about those who Mc Ginley missed in his call to arms, but just where are those talented who can raise our profile....?
Watch a lot of football, and cannot see those who can gallop to Antrims rescue....

Are you staying on for another year after this or will you boys move onto bigger and better things if you get an offer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2022, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 09, 2022, 10:55:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2022, 08:52:03 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 08, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: toby47 on April 08, 2022, 12:39:12 PM
Was Oisin Kerr the only one to walk away?

Not sure but one thing is certain and that is a huge buy in from the players is needed this pre-season in order to keep moving forward. I can see it as being make or break.  We cannot stand still otherwise we will be clinging on for survival rather than taking the brave step forward towards Div 2.  Need followers who believe in the journey on board

Dunno what you men by 'huge buy in' Spike the programme for those on the panel this year has demanded huge commitment, 4/5 sessions per week which obviously meant socialising was almost non existent.

'Buy in' was not a problem for those who gave up a lot in the Saffron cause. Our problem, and excluding those who were called did not answer, is a lack of talent within our county and I would ask you to consider the make up of our under 20 team which came close to upsetting Derry with one club responsible for supplying about 30% of the panel.

Lotta noise about those who Mc Ginley missed in his call to arms, but just where are those talented who can raise our profile....?
Watch a lot of football, and cannot see those who can gallop to Antrims rescue....

Are you staying on for another year after this or will you boys move onto bigger and better things if you get an offer?

I'd say hotly tipped to help out with the Dublin job considering Farrell is in trouble
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2022, 01:20:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2022, 10:37:40 AM
Lotta noise! One of the 30% musn't have got a call up? I'd say the nephew got one all the same, Yes/No. Definitely good enough to be fair.

Lotta noise=lotta muttering from fireside coaches...
Got no nephews seeking a Saffron jersey, but have a grandson playing for Antrim under u14s today.

Just whom do u suggest did Mc Ginley leave out of his plans BS......?
As I said seen a lot of football in the recent past but have not noticed any.

For your info BS....the current management do have their eyes firmly on 2 from the lads from Cargin from the under 20 team...


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 09, 2022, 03:08:54 PM
Lol, I meant Endas nephew, not yours!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 09, 2022, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on April 09, 2022, 03:42:48 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 08, 2022, 09:35:47 PM
Was at reserve game tonight and great to see attacking football and more importantly men enjoying the game they were playing, great entertainment.
Do your seniors not play the same way  :o

Tell me what Senior team does ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2022, 09:05:58 AM
Another 17 point defeat yesterday, this time our under 16s at home to Louth. This is becoming truly embarrassing at this stage, no other way of describing it.

Like there's not many schools in Louth setting the world on fire! For a county of our size this is truly shocking!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 09:10:27 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 09:05:58 AM
Another 17 point defeat yesterday, this time our under 16s at home to Louth. This is becoming truly embarrassing at this stage, no other way of describing it.

Like there's not many schools in Louth setting the world on fire! For a county of our size this is truly shocking!

But our under 14 development squad had a win over Donegal....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2022, 09:16:28 AM
That's positive. Good to share the results of these activities here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 11:02:17 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 09:16:28 AM
That's positive. Good to share the results of these activities here.

One negative for S West lads on the u-14 squad, or rather their parents has necessitated a weekly trip to Belfast, (40+ miles) round trip.
Wonder why the excellent facility at Dunsilly is not utilised..??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 10, 2022, 11:05:46 AM
does the county have a plan to improve underage performance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 11:13:30 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 11:02:17 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 09:16:28 AM
That's positive. Good to share the results of these activities here.

One negative for S West lads on the u-14 squad, or rather their parents has necessitated a weekly trip to Belfast, (40+ miles) round trip.
Wonder why the excellent facility at Dunsilly is not utilised..??

Have you checked availability of these wonderful facilities? Anytime I'm up there it's generally fully booked out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2022, 12:21:59 PM
Was also picking up that a disproportionate amount of development activity was city based. Surely in this day and age that should be either equally rotated between SA and SW hubs, if not at Dunsilly itself. Fairer on all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 12:21:59 PM
Was also picking up that a disproportionate amount of development activity was city based. Surely in this day and age that should be either equally rotated between SA and SW hubs, if not at Dunsilly itself. Fairer on all involved.

Well, having been chauffeur for a couple of sessions seems a few City based clubs are making full use of the 'development '...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 10, 2022, 03:55:15 PM
Big win for Randalstown in division 1 today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 10, 2022, 05:03:29 PM
Not hard to tell from the table /results who has county men missing and who hasn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 10, 2022, 06:04:26 PM
Thought St Endas were very poor today, I know they have a few missing but even so! We were OK at best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2022, 07:21:33 PM
Sure it's only the the league RC...lol.. No medals in early April. A lot of posters on here wouldn't have PGI in top six, no marquee forwards, all that kinda stuff. We just keep on rollin.....see where it takes us. Lol. Maybe when you get all your huge big guns back EOC we will roll over.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 07:24:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 12:21:59 PM
Was also picking up that a disproportionate amount of development activity was city based. Surely in this day and age that should be either equally rotated between SA and SW hubs, if not at Dunsilly itself. Fairer on all involved.

Well, having been chauffeur for a couple of sessions seems a few City based clubs are making full use of the 'development '...

So you haven't checked availability of Dunsilly but would rather complain about taking your family to places that were available? You'd be a great granda ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2022, 07:38:36 PM
Agree MR availability is key. But is Dunsilly hard to get booked into atm? Don't know answer, just asking?

Some win for Randalstown against St Galls. They would not have forecast that a decade ago. Testimony to hard work and belief, ALL things are possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 08:02:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 07:38:36 PM
Agree MR availability is key. But is Dunsilly hard to get booked into atm? Don't know answer, just asking?

Some win for Randalstown against St Galls. They would not have forecast that a decade ago. Testimony to hard work and belief, ALL things are possible.

We ain't the all Ireland winning team anymore.. you'll not recognise too many players. Managers are working with a new batch, will take time, I've ref'd tir na Og a few times over the years, decent hungry team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 10, 2022, 08:12:38 PM
Did previous management prolong with some of the big names for too long MR..well into their mid thirties. Did a dozen or more lost prospects slip through the net in the meantime? Is their regret about that now around St Galls, is the big question?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 08:34:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 08:12:38 PM
Did previous management prolong with some of the big names for too long MR..well into their mid thirties. Did a dozen or more lost prospects slip through the net in the meantime? Is their regret about that now around St Galls, is the big question?

Nah, to be fair with all the minor and under 21 championship teams they all struggled bar a few to dislodge the main players..

We've a run of teams that are no way near that standard, and to be honest no Antrim club team has taken up that mantel for whatever reasons, we'll no doubt have to work it out but like I've said before it's all about cycles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 09:30:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 07:21:33 PM
Sure it's only the the league RC...lol.. No medals in early April. A lot of posters on here wouldn't have PGI in top six, no marquee forwards, all that kinda stuff. We just keep on rollin.....see where it takes us. Lol. Maybe when you get all your huge big guns back EOC we will roll over.....

Leagues are for giving your youngsters a case of life in the faster lane, BS.....not at.the Cargin game today was at Whitehill, but hear we had 8 under 20s starting.

As for league this year's competition is tainted for obvious reason..
As the wise man said, 'leagues are for playing in'' never mentioned Cargin won it last year and nobody cares.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 10:00:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2022, 09:54:06 PM
Were youse not raging the other year when youse didn't get the cup or something? Must care a bit.

Dunno........pray tell

Cargin have settled for just that consolation far too often I have honestly forgotten..
Did your club hold on to it too long...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
Aye, the cup wasn't presented the night youse won the league and people had a shitfit on social media.
So stop getting on like you are better than the competition. It's not a good look.

It's getting embarrassing with every post,  from telling how mcGinley should pick his team or the titbits on selections to not being interested in winning games and complaining about taking kids to games!

Stick to saffron Gael reports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 10, 2022, 10:39:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 10, 2022, 07:21:33 PM
Sure it's only the the league RC...lol.. No medals in early April. A lot of posters on here wouldn't have PGI in top six, no marquee forwards, all that kinda stuff. We just keep on rollin.....see where it takes us. Lol. Maybe when you get all your huge big guns back EOC we will roll over.....
Yeah, you will
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
Aye, the cup wasn't presented the night youse won the league and people had a shitfit on social media.
So stop getting on like you are better than the competition. It's not a good look.

Well Duinte inteacht feile....nobody is too good for a league and Cargin have plenty of those...
I am sure we were delighted to host big Eddie Fitz last year, but If I told you to secure that magnificent trophy was the objective would you believe me..?

As I relayed to all a while back it was my friend and former Runai from St Gall's who told me a ling time ago, " you boys go on winning leagues and we will concentrate on the championship".

We're St Galls too good for league fare, and just how many league titles did they win....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
Aye, the cup wasn't presented the night youse won the league and people had a shitfit on social media.
So stop getting on like you are better than the competition. It's not a good look.

Well Duinte inteacht feile....nobody is too good for a league and Cargin have plenty of those...
I am sure we were delighted to host big Eddie Fitz last year, but If I told you to secure that magnificent trophy was the objective would you believe me..?

As I relayed to all a while back it was my friend and former Runai from St Gall's who told me a ling time ago, " you boys go on winning leagues and we will concentrate on the championship".

We're St Galls too good for league fare, and just how many league titles did they win....?

Only interested in championship, we came from being relegated to winning Ulster championship after two teams wanted to knock seven bells out of each other! even one team wanted to play in Derry 😂

Go to bed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2022, 10:47:52 PM
Nobody is too good for any competition. There is no club in this county that hasn't had lean years where they would have given an arm & leg for a league. It mightn't be the most coveted prize on a given year but anyone who suggests that they don't care about it is a bullroot.

So to focus on a competition when a big percentage of your team cannot be involved is a smart move...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2022, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2022, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 10, 2022, 10:47:52 PM
Nobody is too good for any competition. There is no club in this county that hasn't had lean years where they would have given an arm & leg for a league. It mightn't be the most coveted prize on a given year but anyone who suggests that they don't care about it is a bullroot.

So to focus on a competition when a big percentage of your team cannot be involved is a smart move...?

Who's asking you to focus on the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 11, 2022, 12:30:01 AM
Shut her down Moderator..

The egos have landed yet again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 11, 2022, 05:19:12 PM
What is the format for the tailteann Cup? Straight knock out on an open draw?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2022, 07:11:21 PM
I believe there will be four groups of 4. This will guarantee at least 3 matches. I'd say top two in each qualify for quarter finals, with winners of groups playing runners up in other groups, identical to our own club senior championship latter stages. But I'm not certain RC, maybe Delgany can confirm.

If the GAA make the Tailteaan cup really worth winning it can be a really good development, and one that can suit us. Eg, play before All Ireland final, make attractive allowance to players prize fund (winners holiday fund etc).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 11, 2022, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2022, 07:11:21 PM
I believe there will be four groups of 4. This will guarantee at least 3 matches. I'd say top two in each qualify for quarter finals, with winners of groups playing runners up in other groups, identical to our own club senior championship latter stages. But I'm not certain RC, maybe Delgany can confirm.

If the GAA make the Tailteaan cup really worth winning it can be a really good development, and one that can suit us. Eg, play before All Ireland final, make attractive allowance to players prize fund (winners holiday fund etc).

According to Official Guide, its a straight knockout , with two regional sections  - North & South ! Possibilities of a bye in Round 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 11, 2022, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 11, 2022, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2022, 07:11:21 PM
I believe there will be four groups of 4. This will guarantee at least 3 matches. I'd say top two in each qualify for quarter finals, with winners of groups playing runners up in other groups, identical to our own club senior championship latter stages. But I'm not certain RC, maybe Delgany can confirm.

If the GAA make the Tailteaan cup really worth winning it can be a really good development, and one that can suit us. Eg, play before All Ireland final, make attractive allowance to players prize fund (winners holiday fund etc).

According to Official Guide, its a straight knockout , with two regional sections  - North & South ! Possibilities of a bye in Round 1.
Give it a chance and all that, but it won't stand a chance. Media and sponsors ultimately won't be interested and it'll only be for the diehards. 
However Junior, Intermediate and Senior works extremely well at club level.  Still can't see why that wasn't transferred to inter-county. That's what the GAA public understand and it would have instant credibility which the new format will never achieve.  99 out of 100 GAA followers couldn't explain Tailteann Cup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 11, 2022, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 11, 2022, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 11, 2022, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2022, 07:11:21 PM
I believe there will be four groups of 4. This will guarantee at least 3 matches. I'd say top two in each qualify for quarter finals, with winners of groups playing runners up in other groups, identical to our own club senior championship latter stages. But I'm not certain RC, maybe Delgany can confirm.

If the GAA make the Tailteaan cup really worth winning it can be a really good development, and one that can suit us. Eg, play before All Ireland final, make attractive allowance to players prize fund (winners holiday fund etc).

According to Official Guide, its a straight knockout , with two regional sections  - North & South ! Possibilities of a bye in Round 1.
Give it a chance and all that, but it won't stand a chance. Media and sponsors ultimately won't be interested and it'll only be for the diehards. 
However Junior, Intermediate and Senior works extremely well at club level.  Still can't see why that wasn't transferred to inter-county. That's what the GAA public understand and it would have instant credibility which the new format will never achieve.  99 out of 100 GAA followers couldn't explain Tailteann Cup.

Tailteann Cup is for all intents and purposes an IFC, there already is a JFC involving Kilkenny, NY & two 'british' counties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2022, 09:56:09 PM
Will be interesting to see how it turns out. Lessons will have been learned about the Tommy Murphy Cup and why it didn't catch on, and the GAA has a great chance now to rectify that. Market it properly and incentivise counties and players to make it really worth competing for. It can be a cash cow for the GAA and a medal worth having for counties who realistically have no other chance of playing at Croke Park in front of 85k people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 11, 2022, 11:00:25 PM
Is there anybody who thinks that it's shouldn't be like this?

A senior, intermediate and junior championship...like every county in Ireland.

After Covid, I would have said ok, by the end of the NFL 2025, whatever leagueyou're in then that's your championship and work it out over the 4 leagues asfair as possible.

Give teams a few years to get their act together and try to push on and progress a bit.

The hurlers have done it excellently with chances to develop and progress.  Football seems a bit up of itself for some reason - a serious sense of entitlement.

If you're in Div. 4 etc., you're there for a reason.

Market it well (unlike the Mc Donagh and Ring etc.) and it'll go well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 09:09:04 AM
Have not looked at all to the introduction of the tailteann cup competition but seems the final is scheduled for July.

Not sure of format but does the introduction of such provide another 'cash cow' for the powers that be and does it ensure clubs lucky enough to have players on the county team betold to proceed without those individuals until Antrim leaves that stage...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2022, 10:00:50 AM
Tbh I doubt it will be a cash cow but I suspect it won't be great for clubs with lots of county players with availability etc. I'm glad it's over in July and tbh if it's over in July that would be best case anyway though hopefully we'll beat Cavan then when we do exit ulster be in at later stages and stay in it a while...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 12, 2022, 10:19:14 AM
Chris Kerr called up again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 10:20:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2022, 10:00:50 AM
Tbh I doubt it will be a cash cow but I suspect it won't be great for clubs with lots of county players with availability etc. I'm glad it's over in July and tbh if it's over in July that would be best case anyway though hopefully we'll beat Cavan then when we do exit ulster be in at later stages and stay in it a while...

So we don't want to be successful if it gets in the way of our club games  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

Ive replied to Tommy, but carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 12, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 12, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin

Can you back that statement up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 12, 2022, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 12, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin

Can you back that statement up?

I don't think there has to be too many Colombos or Sherlocks among us to work it out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 12, 2022, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 12, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin

no need for that lad, that's overstepping the mark.

for the record, he hates everyone equally, like all referees should
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 12, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin
Empty vessels and all that DK....

I do not engage.....

Can you back that statement up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 12, 2022, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Almost anything CB comments MR2 you weigh in behind looking to pick an argument, getting tedious at this stage. This board is ridiculous.

I'm a Creggan man and there is no doubt MR2s dislike for Cargin
Empty vessels and all that DK....

I do not engage.....

Can you back that statement up?

Empty vessels and all that....

I have chosen to ignore his comments...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 11:27:45 AM
Was up at Whitehill on Sunday, and sad to say Michael Pollock was the Milltown mens best on view.

They have a huge panel, three teams participating in All County leagues and made it all the way to the under-20 final last year.....????


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 11:28:08 AM
I find it incredible that he can be so obvious about it and still get sent to ref us in such big games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 11:28:08 AM
I find it incredible that he can be so obvious about it and still get sent to ref us in such big games

Some paranoia there. You can have a banter on here and wind ones up without it actually crossing over. When it does cross over and have CB come to you after a game and be abusive then that's personal.. But hey there ya go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
There you go, it is clearly personal then. Point proven
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:45:12 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
There you go, it is clearly personal then. Point proven

Did I say it was personal from my view point? He did that all by himself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
There you go, it is clearly personal then. Point proven

And just who will believe that that individual woul not scurry off to include such in his report......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2022, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
There you go, it is clearly personal then. Point proven

And just who will believe that that individual woul not scurry off to include such in his report......

Sure deny it all you want, I can give you the time and date and game and venue..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2022, 11:58:10 AM
This is a load of balls in my opinion.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 12:34:10 PM
I think to an extent PJ is correct, I think we should move on and leave out the personal stuff, MR2 can do his talking on the pitch and CB on the SG.

Let's talk football and not personas of the thread
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 12:34:10 PM
I think to an extent PJ is correct, I think we should move on and leave out the personal stuff, MR2 can do his talking on the pitch and CB on the SG.

Let's talk football and not personas of the thread
As I said b4, I do not engage with that poster at present and will not in the future.

WUM...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 01:08:14 PM
I merely realised that no matter how much you engage with some you will never get the better of (their egos) them, everyone knows the truth no need to argue it on here

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2022, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 11:28:08 AM
I find it incredible that he can be so obvious about it and still get sent to ref us in such big games
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 12:34:10 PM
I think to an extent PJ is correct, I think we should move on and leave out the personal stuff, MR2 can do his talking on the pitch and CB on the SG.

Let's talk football and not personas of the thread

The Road to Damascus is truly wonderful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2022, 01:30:00 PM
On to more pressing matters, we're stuck on page 1690, keep posting until we move off it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 12, 2022, 01:58:14 PM
That's more like it Paddyjohn well said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 12, 2022, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 12, 2022, 01:30:00 PM
On to more pressing matters, we're stuck on page 1690, keep posting until we move off it.

yep keep er rolling onto 1691!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 02:43:11 PM
Has the early league form, albeit minus county stars, altered posters pre season predictions of where the senior/intermediate/junior championships are heading this year?

I'm going with Cargin, Ballymena, Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 12, 2022, 02:48:13 PM
Throw in your views and debate constructively - none of us have all the answers.  But it's a public forum so please go somewhere else to pursue one-to-one arguments with another poster.  You're only taking up space otherwise and turning people off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 02:58:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 02:43:11 PM
Has the early league form, albeit minus county stars, altered posters pre season predictions of where the senior/intermediate/junior championships are heading this year?

I'm going with Cargin, Ballymena, Rasharkin
Are Rasharkin not in the intermediate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 12, 2022, 02:58:51 PM
Yes we are in Intermediate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 12, 2022, 03:15:22 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 02:43:11 PM
Has the early league form, albeit minus county stars, altered posters pre season predictions of where the senior/intermediate/junior championships are heading this year?

I'm going with Cargin, Ballymena, Rasharkin

I've only seen lots of teams in Div 2 this year, and it is so unpredictable. It's so hard to predict future championship results until teams have played a few games with their senior and U20 players back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 03:18:16 PM
How did that come about when you couldnt win junior last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 12, 2022, 03:32:53 PM
We got promoted to Div 2 and the consensus was to play the championship of the league we are in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 03:38:50 PM
That what I thought Dreen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2022, 04:04:55 PM
I'm going for Cargin, Ballymena and Pearses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 12, 2022, 04:50:55 PM
Are Moneyglass in intermediate this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 05:08:52 PM
Mglass are in Intermediate championship.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2022, 05:21:51 PM
are all championship matches at neutral venues this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
are moneyglass not in senior championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 12, 2022, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
are moneyglass not in senior championship?

Your right NSS

The PG1 Boys will be hoping they aren't like the Ahoghill baddies and allow them to play ball  ;D ;D ;D

Northern Switchgear Antrim Senior Football Championship
Group Two: Portglenone, St Brigid's, Moneyglass, Ahoghill

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2022, 05:49:29 PM
Casements will respect all those clubs, while at the same time fearing no one in the competition. No super teams that stand out like the Galls and Cargin of old. Everybody beatable these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
are moneyglass not in senior championship?

Stand corrected....NSS.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 06:12:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2022, 05:49:29 PM
Casements will respect all those clubs, while at the same time fearing no one in the competition. No super teams that stand out like the Galls and Cargin of old. Everybody beatable these days.

Having gained what looks an easy enough passage to the semis BS reason to be optimistic on securing a last four place....am sure those in your section would disagree.

As to your prospects in a final against the side which navigates a course through the much harder route I am sure the will be delighted to meet up with your lads in the 2022 final.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2022, 07:08:43 PM
That's all fair enough. Basically we are now in agreement that no one fears anyone. All things are possible in championship football, there's always a few shocks or surprises. That's what makes it interesting!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 12, 2022, 08:23:26 PM
Well done to Conhuir Johnston on his College Allstar
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 09:04:39 PM
Yeah great stuff, If his trajectory continues can be a great player for Cargin and Antrim for years to come
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 12, 2022, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 12, 2022, 09:04:39 PM
Yeah great stuff, If his trajectory continues can be a great player for Cargin and Antrim for years to come

Saw him on Sunday when he came on at HT and proceeded to win the game for cargin minors from being well behind
A fine prospect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2022, 09:16:44 PM
Superb prospect. Congratulations to all involved in his development to date.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2022, 09:39:27 PM
Is he a relation of Mickey?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: Dreen on April 12, 2022, 08:23:26 PM
Well done to Conhuir Johnston on his College Allstar

St Mary's had two All Stars....one to Cargin and one to Ballinderry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 12, 2022, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 12, 2022, 09:39:27 PM
Is he a relation of Mickey?

Is Indeed PJ....Michael Johnston and Conhuir's dad Seamus are cousins.
Michael's son Conan was on the Cargin senior team on Sunday....great prospect as well....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 13, 2022, 02:34:07 AM
Fully deserved.  He's an exceptional footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 08:12:01 AM
Conhuir is a fantastic all round player, better still has head screwed on, no airs nor graces with him, just a great lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Cargin v whitehill-4 point away win
St Endas v ahoghill - 2 point away win
Rossa v St John's-Draw
Lamh dhearg v gorts-20 point home win
Aghagallon v St brides-5 point home win
St Galls v Casements-8 point away win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2022, 10:39:19 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Cargin v whitehill-4 point away win
St Endas v ahoghill - 2 point away win
Rossa v St John's-Draw
Lamh dhearg v gorts-20 point home win
Aghagallon v St brides-5 point home win
St Galls v Casements-8 point away win
couldnt agrue will any of that, though dont think LD margin would be as big
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 10:43:16 AM
Can't see Cargin's pride allowing them to lose by 4 to tirnaog
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 13, 2022, 11:13:52 AM
Cargin could lose at home tonight to TNN, or their ability could gain a win, don't think pride comes into it.
Gort Na Mona have been awful. Don't like to be critical but I saw them on Sunday, even their warm up said it all, their presence in the senior championship is completely pointless and makes a mockery of group 3. In the same vein I realise this may not be their fault with no relegation this past couple of seasons. I can see their teams playing away in the U15s and 17s so hopefully they can bounce back stronger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 13, 2022, 11:25:18 AM
this is not the Gorts fault and I feel for them having to be tormented this season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 13, 2022, 11:13:52 AM
Cargin could lose at home tonight to TNN, or their ability could gain a win, don't think pride comes into it.
Gort Na Mona have been awful. Don't like to be critical but I saw them on Sunday, even their warm up said it all, their presence in the senior championship is completely pointless and makes a mockery of group 3. In the same vein I realise this may not be their fault with no relegation this past couple of seasons. I can see their teams playing away in the U15s and 17s so hopefully they can bounce back stronger.

Very poor side and probably not their fault they are still in div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 13, 2022, 12:12:48 PM
Cargin have a huge panel of up and coming or proven performers available - so even with a four player unavailable disadvantage should still be too much for an improving Randalstown, especially in Toome.

Definitely wouldn't like to run into Seamus Heffron or Dessie O Neill any time soon if TNN manage to pull off the double scalp of St Galls and Cargin within 3 days!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 12:31:44 PM
Won't make tonight's game in Milltown BS plenty of updates, our twitter ain't great, would be happy with good attacking performance and a 1pt win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 13, 2022, 12:46:57 PM
Two points on the board and outa dodge! St Galls won't fear us. Lots of interesting games on tonight..the Aul Firm result will be of interest, two more points for Ahoghill and they'll be in Dreamland for the time of the year with 6 points!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 13, 2022, 01:03:55 PM
Ah come on lads, all the big talk from Portglenone and how they fear no one and we're expected to believe you are wary of tonights game.  Give it a rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 13, 2022, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 13, 2022, 12:12:48 PM
Cargin have a huge panel of up and coming or proven performers available - so even with a four player unavailable disadvantage should still be too much for an improving Randalstown, especially in Toome.

Definitely wouldn't like to run into Seamus Heffron or Dessie O Neill any time soon if TNN manage to pull off the double scalp of St Galls and Cargin within 3 days!

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 13, 2022, 01:16:55 PM
Cargin by 5 tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 13, 2022, 04:39:10 PM
What do we think of Chris Kerr coming back to the County fold? Good to have some experience back in there, however should management maybe have looked at someone like the TNN keeper he made a few good saves in the final last year and believe he is playing well this year in Div 1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 13, 2022, 04:47:39 PM
aye good move bringing chris back. nothing beats experience in goals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 06:13:26 PM
Most definitely not me running the twitter I can barely manage this yoke. I noticed some clubs with regular updates during matches, those who can't make it to games rely on it. Ours wouldn't be at that level, but fair play to those that do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2022, 09:56:46 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 13, 2022, 04:39:10 PM
What do we think of Chris Kerr coming back to the County fold? Good to have some experience back in there, however should management maybe have looked at someone like the TNN keeper he made a few good saves in the final last year and believe he is playing well this year in Div 1?

Good move. Enda has brought Heery up from u20 but bringing Chris in will really add to keepers, and mick and Deccy will benefit by having him in there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 09:57:06 PM
I'd say the bookies love to see you coming lar na pairce.

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Cargin v whitehill-4 point away win
St Endas v ahoghill - 2 point away win
Rossa v St John's-Draw
Lamh dhearg v gorts-20 point home win
Aghagallon v St brides-5 point home win
St Galls v Casements-8 point away win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
Davitts have to be the biggest surprise in all leagues this season. Was trying to remember if they had ever been in div 1 but can't remember, CB maybe you would know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 10:05:10 PM
I'm not a good tipster it seems, good job I put nothing up during Cheltenham 😂cargins youth Wing were on a different level tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2022, 10:10:41 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
Davitts have to be the biggest surprise in all leagues this season. Was trying to remember if they had ever been in div 1 but can't remember, CB maybe you would know?

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 10:11:41 PM
I'd be almost sure Davitts had a spell in Div 1 in the early 2000s maybe later than that. Used to be our bogey team! Hammered the lard out of you on the pitch and then carried drink to you steady after it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 13, 2022, 10:38:11 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
Davitts have to be the biggest surprise in all leagues this season. Was trying to remember if they had ever been in div 1 but can't remember, CB maybe you would know?

They sure had a spell in Division One..Saffso away back when John Rowntree was an Runai....
Proved useful enough in their day....unless the Celts were playing at the same time...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 13, 2022, 10:43:32 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 09:57:06 PM
I'd say the bookies love to see you coming lar na pairce.

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Cargin v whitehill-4 point away win
St Endas v ahoghill - 2 point away win
Rossa v St John's-Draw
Lamh dhearg v gorts-20 point home win
Aghagallon v St brides-5 point home win
St Galls v Casements-8 point away win
Saw the mid fielder wearing a broad grin after the match R C....think he was never serious....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 13, 2022, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 13, 2022, 10:11:41 PM
I'd be almost sure Davitts had a spell in Div 1 in the early 2000s maybe later than that. Used to be our bogey team! Hammered the lard out of you on the pitch and then carried drink to you steady after it.

Think they have Sean McKenna from Gaelfast in moonlighting taking them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 07:59:20 AM
Result of the evening would have to be the way Casements dispatched St Galls away at Milltown with such ease, a statement of intent, a marker laid down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2022, 08:01:19 AM
I don't think Davitts have been in division one for a long time. Their results definitely stand out this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 14, 2022, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 07:59:20 AM
Result of the evening would have to be the way Casements dispatched St Galls away at Milltown with such ease, a statement of intent, a marker laid down.



Casements are the team to beat, a force to be reckoned with now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 08:14:04 AM
Nice try ;D
Rossas come back result of night.

Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 07:59:20 AM
Result of the evening would have to be the way Casements dispatched St Galls away at Milltown with such ease, a statement of intent, a marker laid down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 08:14:04 AM
Nice try ;D
Rossas come back result of night.

Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 07:59:20 AM
Result of the evening would have to be the way Casements dispatched St Galls away at Milltown with such ease, a statement of intent, a marker laid down.

Casement's are fying high, but I do fear for the Milltown Blues....they were poor at Whitehill with Mickey Pollock their best on view.
A huge panel with three teams competing in the leagues and just losing out in the u20 championship final....what is going on up there.
Is relegation an issue....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
We contested for 30 minutes, that's were we are at, we've kids and if (big if) we can keep them in div 1 or even if the leagues are restructured keep them in a div 1 b league then the work will be done to improve their gameplay.

We need to improve on lots of things, composure on the ball, picking the right pass, confidence, maturity, support play. We've had a pretty lean spell and that's what happens to a lot of clubs. There are no panic buttons being pressed just yet and if we allow Burnsy and Paddy time to get things right it might set us up in a better place.

We've one player from the All Ireland winning team left playing at senior level, if any club had a complete wipe out of its previous senior teams then they will also struggle for a period, especially with no successful winning juveniles coming through.

As for Portglenone, they have an intensity to their game and a pace that for this time of year is pretty good, whether they are gunning for a league title and what happens in the championship as a bonus we won't know until they play Creggan or Cargin with both teams with their full pick available.

Standing on the sidelines gave a different view from being in the middle, Ports warm up was an intense 30 minutes, I'd say they are a bit busted for about 5 ten minutes of a game, but finish strong, could probably go for goals more. Bit more niggle in last nights game from other games I've seen them.

Good break for teams now, no doubt a few will have challenge games lined up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 14, 2022, 09:27:57 AM
Where you not on duty last night MR2 or are you now a ref's assessor?

I believe from what I am hearing the second half was a bit tempestuous, big McKeever sent off? Was it justified or was it the usual for the ref in question to be throwing out cards like he is the production line of Moonpig?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
We contested for 30 minutes, that's were we are at, we've kids and if (big if) we can keep them in div 1 or even if the leagues are restructured keep them in a div 1 b league then the work will be done to improve their gameplay.

We need to improve on lots of things, composure on the ball, picking the right pass, confidence, maturity, support play. We've had a pretty lean spell and that's what happens to a lot of clubs. There are no panic buttons being pressed just yet and if we allow Burnsy and Paddy time to get things right it might set us up in a better place.

We've one player from the All Ireland winning team left playing at senior level, if any club had a complete wipe out of its previous senior teams then they will also struggle for a period, especially with no successful winning juveniles coming through.

As for Portglenone, they have an intensity to their game and a pace that for this time of year is pretty good, whether they are gunning for a league title and what happens in the championship as a bonus we won't know until they play Creggan or Cargin with both teams with their full pick available.

Standing on the sidelines gave a different view from being in the middle, Ports warm up was an intense 30 minutes, I'd say they are a bit busted for about 5 ten minutes of a game, but finish strong, could probably go for goals more. Bit more niggle in last nights game from other games I've seen them.

Good break for teams now, no doubt a few will have challenge games lined up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 09:40:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2022, 08:01:19 AM
I don't think Davitts have been in division one for a long time. Their results definitely stand out this year.

Might be helping them that it will be game 10 before they have to leave Belfast with the way the fixtures are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
We contested for 30 minutes, that's were we are at, we've kids and if (big if) we can keep them in div 1 or even if the leagues are restructured keep them in a div 1 b league then the work will be done to improve their gameplay.

We need to improve on lots of things, composure on the ball, picking the right pass, confidence, maturity, support play. We've had a pretty lean spell and that's what happens to a lot of clubs. There are no panic buttons being pressed just yet and if we allow Burnsy and Paddy time to get things right it might set us up in a better place.

We've one player from the All Ireland winning team left playing at senior level, if any club had a complete wipe out of its previous senior teams then they will also struggle for a period, especially with no successful winning juveniles coming through.

As for Portglenone, they have an intensity to their game and a pace that for this time of year is pretty good, whether they are gunning for a league title and what happens in the championship as a bonus we won't know until they play Creggan or Cargin with both teams with their full pick available.

Standing on the sidelines gave a different view from being in the middle, Ports warm up was an intense 30 minutes, I'd say they are a bit busted for about 5 ten minutes of a game, but finish strong, could probably go for goals more. Bit more niggle in last nights game from other games I've seen them.

Good break for teams now, no doubt a few will have challenge games lined up
Don't fret MR2, Portglenone are up to championship pace in April with a full team to pick from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2022, 09:56:55 AM
Our game with St Galls was played in a sporting manner with zero bad feeling or controversy until the incident where Niall Mc Keever got sent off.

He was struck twice by his opponent (with closed fist and then head) before he retaliated by sticking up for himself. When the referee first saw the incident which was off the ball, both were going at it, so referee had no choice, he saw both players striking at that stage.

However....what is a player supposed to do in such a situation? Nialls discipline has been excellent all year, despite being constantly targeted on and off the ball. Referees need to be wise to this. It left a very bad taste with us, and yes, tempers got a bit frayed after that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 14, 2022, 09:59:56 AM
I'd rather pick on someone a bit smaller than 6ft 7 and 16 St 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:06:23 AM
We are just taking one game at a time, players really enjoying the new management and playing with confidence. JMK has plenty up his sleeve, no medals in March or April. We have a Cargin Creggan and LD coming up soon - we win, no panic - we lose, no panic either. Mc Namee is the real test in a few months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 14, 2022, 10:09:47 AM
I take your point BS, however two things:

1. I have some sympathy for refs in instances like this as they are on their own in league games with no neutral umpires or lines men so can only see so much.

2. I know Niall may get targeted, however, I have seen him in action and he is no angel either 

Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 09:56:55 AM
Our game with St Galls was played in a sporting manner with zero bad feeling or controversy until the incident where Niall Mc Keever got sent off.

He was struck twice by his opponent (with closed fist and then head) before he retaliated by sticking up for himself. When the referee first saw the incident which was off the ball, both were going at it, so referee had no choice, he saw both players striking at that stage.

However....what is a player supposed to do in such a situation? Nialls discipline has been excellent all year, despite being constantly targeted on and off the ball. Referees need to be wise to this. It left a very bad taste with us, and yes, tempers got a bit frayed after that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 10:13:06 AM
You beat me to it Duine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
Wasn't at the game and have no doubt big Niall was targeted as he always is and undoubtedly the refs look at it as a case of he is big enough to look after himself, this attitude is ridiculous!
What I would say is Niall needs to be more discreet in his retaliation! Last year against Ahoghill in championship being prime example. Retaliate when it's not expected!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 10:17:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:06:23 AM
We are just taking one game at a time, players really enjoying the new management and playing with confidence. JMK has plenty up his sleeve, no medals in March or April. We have a Cargin Creggan and LD coming up soon - we win, no panic - we lose, no panic either. Mc Namee is the real test in a few months.

Jeez BS so unless you manage to overturn the big man's red that will mean you have to line out against Cargin a man down.

Surely that hands Cargin a huge advantage...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 14, 2022, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 10:17:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:06:23 AM



Cargin team stuttering along, ports be huge favourites with the form they are showing regardless of who may be missing, talk of mcnamee very premature but we shall see



We are just taking one game at a time, players really enjoying the new management and playing with confidence. JMK has plenty up his sleeve, no medals in March or April. We have a Cargin Creggan and LD coming up soon - we win, no panic - we lose, no panic either. Mc Namee is the real test in a few months.

Jeez BS so unless you manage to overturn the big man's red that will mean you have to line out against Cargin a man down.

Surely that hands Cargin a huge advantage...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 10:44:17 AM
Good players are always going to get some attention, that's competitive sport, its how you deal with that attention is what stands you apart from that

As for the red cards, who throws first or last its the striking in which gets the red card. I personally don't mind the fisty cuffs, I wouldn't be known to send players off, but when its two lads going at it then it leaves you with no choice at times.

It'll be a one game ban, nothing of any note to come from it, the normal jostling after such incidents need to be sorted and clubs need to look at having subs behind the fence as this would reduce a lot of these things.

The ref has no control when lads take it upon themselves to be over aggressive in tackles, other than handing out cards that is all he can do, lads reacting is not his fault.

As for me being able to watch the club, I'm injured this week, an accidental (I hope lol) in a game on Sunday, not fully fit, hopefully back for the game in Portglenone ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:54:56 AM
CB wtf are you actually on about? Cargin match just another game for us win lose or draw. Both teams will have 15 starting the game. It's only the league. Both clubs will attempt to time their run for the chsmpionship. Same as about a dozen other clubs!  Is there something about this that's hard to understand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:54:56 AM
CB wtf are you actually on about? Cargin match just another game for us win lose or draw. Both teams will have 15 starting the game. It's only the league. Both clubs will attempt to time their run for the chsmpionship. Same as about a dozen other clubs!  Is there something about this that's hard to understand?

Love to mark a moment in history BS as Tir na Nog gaining a first ever verdict over St Galls lately.

Maybe I am wrong but do you remember when PG1 managed to breast the winning line with a win over Cargin in league or championship...?

Surely a win on the next one over Cargin would mark a moment in history...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 11:25:44 AM
I certainly remember a win over Cargin, and I remember a few comments from Cargin men about embarrassment. However if push comes to shove I'd say cargin would win 8 out of 10 games against us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:54:56 AM
CB wtf are you actually on about? Cargin match just another game for us win lose or draw. Both teams will have 15 starting the game. It's only the league. Both clubs will attempt to time their run for the chsmpionship. Same as about a dozen other clubs!  Is there something about this that's hard to understand?

Love to mark a moment in history BS as Tir na Nog gaining a first ever verdict over St Galls lately.

Maybe I am wrong but do you remember when PG1 managed to breast the winning line with a win over Cargin in league or championship...?

Surely a win on the next one over Cargin would mark a moment in history...??

Definitely happened in league before
20 years ago
Championship semi final 2005 ? Maybe I'm wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 14, 2022, 11:28:25 AM
2005 semi final before being beaten handily by galls.
We came back 2006 to win mcNamee again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:54:56 AM
CB wtf are you actually on about? Cargin match just another game for us win lose or draw. Both teams will have 15 starting the game. It's only the league. Both clubs will attempt to time their run for the chsmpionship. Same as about a dozen other clubs!  Is there something about this that's hard to understand?

Love to mark a moment in history BS as Tir na Nog gaining a first ever verdict over St Galls lately.

Maybe I am wrong but do you remember when PG1 managed to breast the winning line with a win over Cargin in league or championship...?

Surely a win on the next one over Cargin would mark a moment in history...??

Definitely happened in league before
20 years ago
Championship semi final 2005 ? Maybe I'm wrong

Had forgotten that one....remember the final.v Galls though...

Cargin suitably chastened came back to meet up with Mac Namee 2006....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2022, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:54:56 AM
CB wtf are you actually on about? Cargin match just another game for us win lose or draw. Both teams will have 15 starting the game. It's only the league. Both clubs will attempt to time their run for the chsmpionship. Same as about a dozen other clubs!  Is there something about this that's hard to understand?

Love to mark a moment in history BS as Tir na Nog gaining a first ever verdict over St Galls lately.

Maybe I am wrong but do you remember when PG1 managed to breast the winning line with a win over Cargin in league or championship...?

Surely a win on the next one over Cargin would mark a moment in history...??

Definitely happened in league before
20 years ago
Championship semi final 2005 ? Maybe I'm wrong

Had forgotten that one....remember the final.v Galls though...

Cargin suitably chastened came back to meet up with Mac Namee 2006....

Amazing how dementia can set in after a defeat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2022, 11:49:48 AM
No one disputing Cargins pedigree now or in the past. A rich conveyor belt that keeps on running. It's up to the other clubs to develop their own now, prepare footballers to an elite level. Cargin the template...but more than happy with our own progress on that front and what we have coming down the track.

If clubs can improve even by 5% across the board year on year, that represents a considerable improvement across a five or ten year term.

As I said before, we simply cannot rely at all on schools or Co Dev squads to do this for us. Club is king.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2022, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2022, 11:26:24 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 10:54:56 AM
CB wtf are you actually on about? Cargin match just another game for us win lose or draw. Both teams will have 15 starting the game. It's only the league. Both clubs will attempt to time their run for the chsmpionship. Same as about a dozen other clubs!  Is there something about this that's hard to understand?

Love to mark a moment in history BS as Tir na Nog gaining a first ever verdict over St Galls lately.

Maybe I am wrong but do you remember when PG1 managed to breast the winning line with a win over Cargin in league or championship...?

Surely a win on the next one over Cargin would mark a moment in history...??

Definitely happened in league before
20 years ago
Championship semi final 2005 ? Maybe I'm wrong

Had forgotten that one....remember the final.v Galls though...

Cargin suitably chastened came back to meet up with Mac Namee 2006....

Amazing how dementia can set in after a defeat

HH am more than aware of that horrible disease and think your comment is not worthy of any reply.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2022, 12:59:35 PM
Big Hoof played in that match probably so I can see why he wouldn't want it airbrushed out of the history books. But if you suggested "Is that referee blind - eg MR for instance lol - does it mean it should be taken literally?

No. Didn't think so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 01:11:48 PM
Who could forget that year, Portglenone went on and got thrashed in the final, Madden then quoted in the Irish News the next day 'we are now most definitely the second best team in Antrim'  The quote said it all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 01:14:19 PM
Was well impressed with McNeilly, young forward for TNN last night, pace and accuracy. Hadn't seen him since 2019 but he was very good and worth a watching
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 01:27:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 12:59:35 PM
Big Hoof played in that match probably so I can see why he wouldn't want it airbrushed out of the history books. But if you suggested "Is that referee blind - eg MR for instance lol - does it mean it should be taken literally?

No. Didn't think so.
WTF are u on about BS...?
So losing in a county final is memorable....so you well remember all those occassions Cargin lost in finals....and the requiems written, or the day you vacated the arena early with a smile on your face until Tomas worked his magic...

I know HH can speak up loudly for himself....come across him at regular intervals....

Sin e.....

.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 14, 2022, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 01:14:19 PM
Was well impressed with McNeilly, young forward for TNN last night, pace and accuracy. Hadn't seen him since 2019 but he was very good and worth a watching



A very good player, took some nice scores and general play was excellent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 02:41:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2022, 01:14:19 PM
Was well impressed with McNeilly, young forward for TNN last night, pace and accuracy. Hadn't seen him since 2019 but he was very good and worth a watching

Great left peg on him and an intelligent player.

Hopefully Div 1 will be the making of him, he has the talent and just needs to add the physicality, while not losing his pace.

While not getting the result last night, that is the standard to aspire to and you only improve playing against the big boys.

No matter how many weren't there last night, it is still Cargin and the reputation means a lot when you are coming up from Div 2 not having been there before for any of those players.

Creggan match should be interesting in a few weeks!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

It'll be like Armoy playing Ballycastle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

You can have juvenile teams in whatever division but if you can have three moving on to a senior div 1 team every other year and allow them to develop you'll do ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 14, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

It'll be like Armoy playing Ballycastle


Or Carey playing Ballycastle..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 14, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

It'll be like Armoy playing Ballycastle


Or Carey playing Ballycastle..

Remember doing one of them and it was feisty  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 14, 2022, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 14, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

It'll be like Armoy playing Ballycastle


Or Carey playing Ballycastle..

Remember doing one of them and it was feisty  ::)

Hope you didn't lose control of the game!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:52:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

You can have juvenile teams in whatever division but if you can have three moving on to a senior div 1 team every other year and allow them to develop you'll do ok.

Everything is possible but if you want to compete in Div1 and progress 2 consecutive age groups in Div 3 covering roughly 4 school year groups will be challenging. You might get away with it if it is just a blip but you would want to get up the levels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 14, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

TNN have regrouped as past 10 years and halted the territorial inroads made by one of their rivals into the town.   If youth numbers and facilities are anything to go by then TNN are on the right track.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 14, 2022, 05:12:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 14, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

It'll be like Armoy playing Ballycastle


Or Carey playing Ballycastle..

Remember doing one of them and it was feisty  ::)

They play this weekend in the Feis I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 14, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

TNN have regrouped as past 10 years and halted the territorial inroads made by one of their rivals into the town.   If youth numbers and facilities are anything to go by then TNN are on the right track.

Agree was just surprised with the upturn to see u17 & u15 down in Div 3.Harder to get the next batch to push on to the next level from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 05:25:44 PM
Absolute nonsense about youngsters looking to next level and what standard they are at.
My young fella hasn't a clue about what standard the age group above him are playing at, he just wants to be like the bigger boys and play it.

Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 14, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

TNN have regrouped as past 10 years and halted the territorial inroads made by one of their rivals into the town.   If youth numbers and facilities are anything to go by then TNN are on the right track.

Agree was just surprised with the upturn to see u17 & u15 down in Div 3.Harder to get the next batch to push on to the next level from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 05:25:44 PM
Absolute nonsense about youngsters looking to next level and what standard they are at.
My young fella hasn't a clue about what standard the age group above him are playing at, he just wants to be like the bigger boys and play it.

Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 14, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

TNN have regrouped as past 10 years and halted the territorial inroads made by one of their rivals into the town.   If youth numbers and facilities are anything to go by then TNN are on the right track.

Agree was just surprised with the upturn to see u17 & u15 down in Div 3.Harder to get the next batch to push on to the next level from there.

RC not what I meant

Harder to get the next 6 - 8 players of sufficient quality to push the Senior team to the next level when you are competing at Div 3 underage with the next 2 age groups coming through. Having your underage teams competitive at as High a level as possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 07:18:56 PM
Ah get you now Flanker, however from our point of view as long as you are fielding teams at each age group we would worry about seniors after minor, we've found reserves to be good for bringing boys on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 14, 2022, 09:36:41 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 14, 2022, 05:25:44 PM
Absolute nonsense about youngsters looking to next level and what standard they are at.
My young fella hasn't a clue about what standard the age group above him are playing at, he just wants to be like the bigger boys and play it.

Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 14, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

TNN have regrouped as past 10 years and halted the territorial inroads made by one of their rivals into the town.   If youth numbers and facilities are anything to go by then TNN are on the right track.

Agree was just surprised with the upturn to see u17 & u15 down in Div 3.Harder to get the next batch to push on to the next level from there.

RC not what I meant

Harder to get the next 6 - 8 players of sufficient quality to push the Senior team to the next level when you are competing at Div 3 underage with the next 2 age groups coming through. Having your underage teams competitive at as High a level as possible.

Your right flanker, but I've seen a trend in TNN as last lot of years to play in the B and C divisions at juvenile when they would be capable of being at the very least competitive in the top division, not a good mindset
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2022, 09:55:53 PM
Jeez, Galls failed to field in an u-15 league game fixed for their own Milltown venue against Moneyglass tonight...

That is not good news....



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 15, 2022, 07:37:50 AM
Not good news at all.  Has there been a problem with the feeder schools?  Certainly some county clubs experience random drops in male numbers in certain years which can happen, but not certain if this happens to the same extent in the city
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2022, 08:45:56 AM
Some years at different levels are leaner than others, it's the Easter holidays too, could be lots of kids are away with family, it's been 2 years  since people can actually fly to a destination.

If some kids are away it will have a knock on effect to field a team. Thanks for the concern though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 15, 2022, 09:36:17 AM
Hopefully thats it MR. Keeping the numbers coming in is a full time job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 15, 2022, 10:32:52 AM
If U15s and 17s are competitive and capable go in the top league, if not capable they go to a lower league that suits them. No point shipping a pasting every week. No matter how bad a team is you can always still get two or 3 good players out if it. One annoying thing is when teams are more than capable of playing and competing in Div1 but they choose to enter Division 2 which they go on to win at a canter. No good for anyone that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 15, 2022, 02:02:45 PM
Having attended several under age games thus far without a notebook, and despite the considerd opinions of other posters, it is always easy to note the lads who have participated in South Derry college teams.

Only my opinion.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 15, 2022, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on April 15, 2022, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.
Just heard TNN playing without at least 6/7men who won the intermediate double last year in these games and still picking up pts while their nearest challengers AS struggling in div 2,beat quite convincingly against a Glenravel team with as many starters off it as they had,could be a case off management too long there

He's only been there a few weeks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2022, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on April 15, 2022, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.
Just heard TNN playing without at least 6/7men who won the intermediate double last year in these games and still picking up pts while their nearest challengers AS struggling in div 2,beat quite convincingly against a Glenravel team with as many starters off it as they had,could be a case off management too long there


????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2022, 07:02:23 PM
division 2 results, moneyglass aside, seem all over the place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 15, 2022, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: referee on April 15, 2022, 05:06:21 PM
Hoof ,your boys are going well and apart from Davitts,/St Paul's nobody else setting the world alight,is D McErlain back yet,R/town going along ok in Div 1,should be ok if they get a few men back,Antrim seem to take a stumble in div3

Aye McErlain is back
Not up to  pre injury form yet but ticking over alright
Some young boys have got their chance and have taken it
Young mccann is going well, don't think he's 18 yet
Shea Madden too showing up well
Was the same last year up to Randalstown game then the wheels fell off so hopefully they've learned from that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 15, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
I spoke to a Ballymena clubman at a funeral during the week there. He told me that Ballymena were missing 7 the other night and Glenravel were missing up to 9. Told me the 4g in the cricky caused some issues with both clubs. A few knee/ankle injuries picked up. Coincidence or not I don't know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2022, 11:34:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 15, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
I spoke to a Ballymena clubman at a funeral during the week there. He told me that Ballymena were missing 7 the other night and Glenravel were missing up to 9. Told me the 4g in the cricky caused some issues with both clubs. A few knee/ankle injuries picked up. Coincidence or not I don't know.

Not convinced by that Pj, joe the wrong man in my opinion for Glenravel in development, lots of young , positive attacking talent, but joe setting them up far too negative, did the same at greenlouth who actually needed that format. Hopefully he will change his strategy sooner than later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 16, 2022, 10:46:02 PM
Quote from: referee on April 16, 2022, 10:16:42 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2022, 11:34:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 15, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
I spoke to a Ballymena clubman at a funeral during the week there. He told me that Ballymena were missing 7 the other night and Glenravel were missing up to 9. Told me the 4g in the cricky caused some issues with both clubs. A few knee/ankle injuries picked up. Coincidence or not I don't know.

Not convinced by that Pj, joe the wrong man in my opinion for Glenravel in development, lots of young , positive attacking talent, but joe setting them up far too negative, did the same at greenlouth who actually needed that format. Hopefully he will change his strategy sooner than later.


looking at the 2 teams in the SG, can't see how either team is missing that many, probably 4 each at most,and every team are missing men through all divisions,As G and T saysTNN coping as best they can without 6/7 starters, actually have won as many games in div 1 as their main challengers in div 2 last year have in div 2 this year,as for J Cass most teams set up defensively,it's wether u get enough scores at the other end,and beating your neighbor convincingly by 6pts,can't see Glenravel people frowning

All saints are very poor though, a shadow of last years team that was pushing for promotion and the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 16, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
Bradley would be on big dough in Ballymena I'm assuming ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2022, 11:38:56 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
Bradley would be on big dough in Ballymena I'm assuming ?

You can only play with what yave got? Ardoyne have decent manager also...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 17, 2022, 08:33:25 AM
I heard last night Niall McK is talking about appealing his red card from the other night? Am I missing something as from the RC men on here it was clear as day he was striking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2022, 08:36:03 AM
Not sure how that appeal will stand up or who's driving it, but it was put in as striking by the ref. Who strikes first is irrelevant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 17, 2022, 08:48:55 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 17, 2022, 08:33:25 AM
I heard last night Niall McK is talking about appealing his red card from the other night? Am I missing something as from the RC men on here it was clear as day he was striking

Cannot believe that, sure he will only miss a single league game and the visit of an under strength Cargin...?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 17, 2022, 12:16:22 PM
When ye strike in this game the rules are ye must go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 17, 2022, 12:23:49 PM
Its a complete disgrace the way NMK gets unfairly targeted. He was struck with a fist, then a headbutt on Wednesday night before he decided to defend himself? If it happened on the street the law would be involved. If some of you cannot grasp that there is a principle at stake here, then please go to the Hoganstand.

The ball was a mile away, this was blatant thuggery. Before you answer - think what you're reaction would be if it was one of your players, maybe your own son. Match after match. It's sickening, and Antrim referees have a duty of care to, at the very least, be aware of the tactic.

Got nothing to do with who the next match is, that's a minor point - that's just another game - no different to any other as far as we are concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 17, 2022, 12:29:18 PM
Why does he get targeted? I don't understand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 17, 2022, 12:34:58 PM
I have never seen any of Portglenones games against teams other than cargin but I did see NMK starting a brawl v Cargin 3 years ago, started on a young Pat Shivers off the ball. Works both ways BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2022, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 17, 2022, 12:23:49 PM
Its a complete disgrace the way NMK gets unfairly targeted. He was struck with a fist, then a headbutt on Wednesday night before he decided to defend himself? If it happened on the street the law would be involved. If some of you cannot grasp that there is a principle at stake here, then please go to the Hoganstand.

The ball was a mile away, this was blatant thuggery. Before you answer - think what you're reaction would be if it was one of your players, maybe your own son. Match after match. It's sickening, and Antrim referees have a duty of care to, at the very least, be aware of the tactic.

Got nothing to do with who the next match is, that's a minor point - that's just another game - no different to any other as far as we are concerned.

But you can see the problem bannside? If you tolerate revenge then it will only create bigger problems. The key is to show restraint..

Has he got a bad discipline record?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 17, 2022, 12:41:32 PM
One question at a time? Do you think it's fair that he IS unfairly singled out? Or do you think players being consistently targeted in this manner deserve some protection from referees?

I'm not talking about anyone in particular here, I'm talking about the principle....let's pretend it was a player in your club.

Yes/No?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 17, 2022, 12:50:03 PM
I think he could end up being the one targeting other players when you come up against a decent team. Don't see your rationale here at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 17, 2022, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 17, 2022, 12:50:03 PM
I think he could end up being the one targeting other players when you come up against a decent team. Don't see your rationale here at all.

Pat Shivers was an under-age minor three years back...

As for NMK and any appeal....who struck first is of no consequence.....and any appeal to be successful does require proof of a failure of administration in serving notice...

Jeez a big man or a fool strikes that big man....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 17, 2022, 01:17:05 PM
How did this turn into a Cargin thing? Now we're talking about Pat Shivers!!! In the name of God CB, not every single post you make has to revert back to Cargin.

Casements haven't appealed anything... I was talking about the principle of integrity in sport, but hey, I don't expect to get much sense here. If I saw Mick Mc Cann getting treated like that match after match my position would be exactly the same. Referees need to look out for players who are being constantly targeted. Their linesmen and umpires do too.

Is this really, really too much to grasp?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 17, 2022, 01:54:31 PM
Seriously? Fill your boots and tell me why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 17, 2022, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 17, 2022, 01:17:05 PM
How did this turn into a Cargin thing? Now we're talking about Pat Shivers!!! In the name of God CB, not every single post you make has to revert back to Cargin.

Casements haven't appealed anything... I was talking about the principle of integrity in sport, but hey, I don't expect to get much sense here. If I saw Mick Mc Cann getting treated like that match after match my position would be exactly the same. Referees need to look out for players who are being constantly targeted. Their linesmen and umpires do too.

Is this really, really too much to grasp?

I do know the absolute love you have for Cargin BS....listen to such whispered by more than a few of your club mates...

How is a previous assault previously on one of our under age players underline such.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2022, 02:22:07 PM
Personally I go into the game to protect everyone tbh. If a player is being fouled consistently then the players will be noted and carded, you can't take it upon yourself to distribute retaliation regardless of who's playing or whether they believe they are getting special attention.

As for him I've never noticed this special attention. Some players maybe feel they are picked on but the ref can only deal with things if he sees it in a league game or brought to his attention in a championship game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 17, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
CB you're getting way too personal here. Never once have I attacked your personal integrity. Read your posts recently, you're playing the man every time. It needs to stop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 17, 2022, 02:57:52 PM
I did hear NMK had a bit of a chip on his shoulder (not my words, the fruit man's)  the other night doing a bit of mouthing, throwing a ball over the wire when he was unhappy talking cheek to St galls men over the wire
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 17, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
NMK has always come in from special attention. I remember reffing him way back in Un14-Un16 and he took pelters.

Jealousy is a terrible thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2022, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
NMK has always come in from special attention. I remember reffing him way back in Un14-Un16 and he took pelters.

Jealousy is a terrible thing.

And you'd have dealt with it at the time. You can only deal with what you see and what happens..

You can't defend yourself by punching someone in the face. You can certainly stand up for yourself and take whatever sanction comes your way.

This goes for every player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 17, 2022, 03:50:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
NMK has always come in from special attention. I remember reffing him way back in Un14-Un16 and he took pelters.

Jealousy is a terrible thing.
This is laughable, a big physical player NMK is  but i doubt if too many teams are jealous they don't have him. Maybe he has a discipline issue lads. Does he get more attention than Paddy Cunningham or Tomas McCann, don't see them getting suspended too frequently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 17, 2022, 11:23:51 PM
4 minutes coverage of the Joe McDonagh Cup on the Sunday Game and footage from only one game out of three.  That's where the Tailteann Cup is heading. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2022, 11:44:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 17, 2022, 11:23:51 PM
4 minutes coverage of the Joe McDonagh Cup on the Sunday Game and footage from only one game out of three.  That's where the Tailteann Cup is heading.

How many minutes will Antrim get next week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 17, 2022, 11:45:19 PM
About 1000 at the Offaly game yesterday so I'm not sure there is a massive appetite for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2022, 11:53:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 17, 2022, 11:45:19 PM
About 1000 at the Offaly game yesterday so I'm not sure there is a massive appetite for it

I'd assume if it were a knockout competition like the Ulster championship you'll get more at it. What's the alternative?

Get knocked out by Cavan and then knocked out by someone else and back with clubs? Or win something that'll be allow you to continue to next level? We ain't winning Sam at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 17, 2022, 11:59:21 PM
I'm not against football being tiered.  I just don't swallow the promises that the Tailteannn Cup will be backed. It won't be, certainly not once the novelty wears off after a year or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2022, 12:21:23 AM
That's certainly the worry, that tier 2 competition is ignored by mainstream media. But in the world we now live in there are plenty of companies willing to pick up rtes slack, and if there is a demand from viewers the main stream media will piggy back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 18, 2022, 07:54:40 AM
So big Ricky has gone Stateside for the Summer...

A body blow for the Saffrons and a shuffling of the pack required
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 18, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
Can you blame any fella going over to America for the summer and getting a bit of coin in the back pocket as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 18, 2022, 10:59:13 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 18, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
Can you blame any fella going over to America for the summer and getting a bit of coin in the back pocket as well.

Course not.....young man getting a few Bob for his endeavours.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on April 18, 2022, 05:59:45 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 18, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
Can you blame any fella going over to America for the summer and getting a bit of coin in the back pocket as well.

Away before this Sunday's game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kickham csc on April 20, 2022, 03:10:12 AM
This could be an increasing problem going forward. Was talking to some NY clubmates and they stated that Croke Park were putting pressure on the US cities to complete their championships eariler so that US GAA wont interfere with the club championships back home.

If this is the approach, then players who are interested in coming out will have to choose between county and travel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:06:31 AM
Tickets still on general sale for Saturday. Not the expected shortage then that the Corrigan venue was supposed to cause.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:18:22 AM
Busy weekend for the SAFFS. Friday night minor footballers way to Monaghan. Given our lads poor league form, the split in the mgt, and mgt ringing around trying to coax players who had walked away back the omens are very poor.
Minor hurlers playing Kildare which is their first real test.
Then seniors against Cavan. A month ago i would have been very confident of us beating Cavan but now i don't think so. The poor performances against Louth and Westmeath showed we still have a long way to go in our progression and Cavan looked really strong in the Div 4 final. Big Ricky away is a massive blow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 20, 2022, 10:12:23 AM
And hurlers away in Ballycran on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 20, 2022, 10:12:23 AM
And hurlers away in Ballycran on Sunday.
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Actually forgot that Brendan, McDonagh cup seems very low key this year, no chat about it at all, makes me worry for the football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 20, 2022, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:18:22 AM
Busy weekend for the SAFFS. Friday night minor footballers way to Monaghan. Given our lads poor league form, the split in the mgt, and mgt ringing around trying to coax players who had walked away back the omens are very poor.
Minor hurlers playing Kildare which is their first real test.
Then seniors against Cavan. A month ago i would have been very confident of us beating Cavan but now i don't think so. The poor performances against Louth and Westmeath showed we still have a long way to go in our progression and Cavan looked really strong in the Div 4 final. Big Ricky away is a massive blow.

???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 20, 2022, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:18:22 AM
Busy weekend for the SAFFS. Friday night minor footballers way to Monaghan. Given our lads poor league form, the split in the mgt, and mgt ringing around trying to coax players who had walked away back the omens are very poor.
Minor hurlers playing Kildare which is their first real test.
Then seniors against Cavan. A month ago i would have been very confident of us beating Cavan but now i don't think so. The poor performances against Louth and Westmeath showed we still have a long way to go in our progression and Cavan looked really strong in the Div 4 final. Big Ricky away is a massive blow.

???

agh no Jc, Down dont count sure  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 20, 2022, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:18:22 AM
Busy weekend for the SAFFS. Friday night minor footballers way to Monaghan. Given our lads poor league form, the split in the mgt, and mgt ringing around trying to coax players who had walked away back the omens are very poor.
Minor hurlers playing Kildare which is their first real test.
Then seniors against Cavan. A month ago i would have been very confident of us beating Cavan but now i don't think so. The poor performances against Louth and Westmeath showed we still have a long way to go in our progression and Cavan looked really strong in the Div 4 final. Big Ricky away is a massive blow.
Ah no, on the minor footballers thought all that kind of stuff was in the past but sounds like it's very present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2022, 06:20:33 PM
Heard they were getting a lot on online abuse and decided to pack it in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2022, 06:20:33 PM
Heard they were getting a lot on online abuse and decided to pack it in

Players or mgt MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 20, 2022, 10:41:31 PM
Jesus lads 9/4 our lads this weekend, jaysus that's buying money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 20, 2022, 10:41:31 PM
Jesus lads 9/4 our lads this weekend, jaysus that's buying money.

Are you serious ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 20, 2022, 11:06:23 PM
Absolutely they will be backed by me, I'm not a big hitter, but I'll go 40 anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 20, 2022, 11:14:59 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:18:22 AM
Busy weekend for the SAFFS. Friday night minor footballers way to Monaghan. Given our lads poor league form, the split in the mgt, and mgt ringing around trying to coax players who had walked away back the omens are very poor.
Minor hurlers playing Kildare which is their first real test.
Then seniors against Cavan. A month ago i would have been very confident of us beating Cavan but now i don't think so. The poor performances against Louth and Westmeath showed we still have a long way to go in our progression and Cavan looked really strong in the Div 4 final. Big Ricky away is a massive blow.

What split in the mgt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 21, 2022, 08:10:34 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 20, 2022, 10:41:31 PM
Jesus lads 9/4 our lads this weekend, jaysus that's buying money.

Good price in a 50/50 game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2022, 09:21:14 AM
Bookies rarely wrong but I guess we will see!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 21, 2022, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 14, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 14, 2022, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 14, 2022, 02:56:40 PM
Takes a few years to find your feet Barnish. But it looks like you're there for the duration. Another club making decent strides.

Oh i know, you pick and choose your matches at this stage to do enough to stay up and build from there.

I just think the Creggan game will be interesting from a intensity level, i don't think we will be within 10 scores of them at the end but it'll be good craic if both sets of players are up for the battle!

Would you not be concerned about the building blocks to build from. Juvenile teams in Div 3.

Not a great base to be working from.

With the numbers catchment area and facilities does that not need fixed

TNN have regrouped as past 10 years and halted the territorial inroads made by one of their rivals into the town.   If youth numbers and facilities are anything to go by then TNN are on the right track.

Agree was just surprised with the upturn to see u17 & u15 down in Div 3.Harder to get the next batch to push on to the next level from there.

Sorry for jumping back but i am only catching up now.

I see what you mean, and i assume you are referring to our U15 and U17 playing in Div 3.

Honestly my view on this is, of the U17 age group, we have low numbers of one of the school class ages and have to have 6 or so U15s playing up.

So the decision was taken to drop them down to Div 3 as they wouldn't be strong enough with having to play both age groups, as well as U15 hurling.

However, if you look at the results so far, there is an argument we should have been in Div 2.

With the U15s, we definitely should have been in Div 2.

Not sure what the thinking behind that was, although seeing as last years U15s lost every game they maybe wanted to give those lads from last year a bit of a confidence boost.

I disagree with that view and think we could have held our own in div 2 and it would be better for their development as the first two games were walk overs.

Our U13s beat a good few of those Div 2 teams last year so no reason to think why we should be in a lower division than them this year.

As someone else mentioned, the important thing is having say 3 players that have the potential to go straight into senior setup once they are out of minor and between U20 and U17 we definitely have that number to bring through from those teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on April 21, 2022, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:06:31 AM
Tickets still on general sale for Saturday. Not the expected shortage then that the Corrigan venue was supposed to cause.
So much for the Cavan fans giving it the big un saying they're bringing thousands. Evidently not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on April 21, 2022, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 20, 2022, 09:06:31 AM
Tickets still on general sale for Saturday. Not the expected shortage then that the Corrigan venue was supposed to cause.
So much for the Cavan fans giving it the big un saying they're bringing thousands. Evidently not.

2pm throw in on a Saturday, what sort of a stupid time for a game is that. Some of us have jobs. Anyway, let's see who does their talking on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 21, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
Have a good day at work.

Thanks, I can book it off but others cant. But I am not going to fight here with you boys, far as I can see ye regularly make a holy show of yourselves arguing amongst yourselves. The talking will be done on the pitch in Corrigan Park on Saturday and you can show the province what ye are made of there. May the best team win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 21, 2022, 10:15:53 PM
Was chatting to a member of the Derry squad today, they seriously fancy themselves to take tyrone, he had suggest an Antrim Derry double a tenner paying 130, might have a bit of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 21, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
Have a good day at work.

Thanks, I can book it off but others cant. But I am not going to fight here with you boys, far as I can see ye regularly make a holy show of yourselves arguing amongst yourselves. The talking will be done on the pitch in Corrigan Park on Saturday and you can show the province what ye are made of there. May the best team win.

Good now f**k off and stop stirring you dose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 22, 2022, 09:27:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 21, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
Have a good day at work.

Thanks, I can book it off but others cant. But I am not going to fight here with you boys, far as I can see ye regularly make a holy show of yourselves arguing amongst yourselves. The talking will be done on the pitch in Corrigan Park on Saturday and you can show the province what ye are made of there. May the best team win.

Good now f**k off and stop stirring you dose.

Still seems to be tickets knocking around for this one Antrim were dead right to stand firm but i think most would agree the timing of it is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 01:25:33 PM
anyone heard who is going into full back tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 01:25:33 PM
anyone heard who is going into full back tomorrow?

Declan Lynch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 03:12:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 21, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
Have a good day at work.

Thanks, I can book it off but others cant. But I am not going to fight here with you boys, far as I can see ye regularly make a holy show of yourselves arguing amongst yourselves. The talking will be done on the pitch in Corrigan Park on Saturday and you can show the province what ye are made of there. May the best team win.

Good now f**k off and stop stirring you dose.

Like you think you'd be reasonable and not be throwing out curse words, seeing as you yourselves haven't even been able to sell out your first home game in ages, rather than throwing abuse at Cavan away fans for not selling it out for you. Quite pathetic when you look at it, with your population...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 22, 2022, 03:35:33 PM
 :-[ their free taker could be busy with frees within 30 yards

Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 01:25:33 PM
anyone heard who is going into full back tomorrow?

Declan Lynch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 22, 2022, 03:35:33 PM
:-[ their free taker could be busy with frees within 30 yards

Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 01:25:33 PM
anyone heard who is going into full back tomorrow?

Declan Lynch

Excuses in early it seems...

Cavan -4 then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2022, 08:56:45 PM
Up by 3 12mins into second half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 03:12:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 21, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
Have a good day at work.

Thanks, I can book it off but others cant. But I am not going to fight here with you boys, far as I can see ye regularly make a holy show of yourselves arguing amongst yourselves. The talking will be done on the pitch in Corrigan Park on Saturday and you can show the province what ye are made of there. May the best team win.

Good now f**k off and stop stirring you dose.

Like you think you'd be reasonable and not be throwing out curse words, seeing as you yourselves haven't even been able to sell out your first home game in ages, rather than throwing abuse at Cavan away fans for not selling it out for you. Quite pathetic when you look at it, with your population...

Settle down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2022, 09:15:22 PM
Looks like being a great result. Fair play to Mackers and co, they put in a pile of work with that group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 22, 2022, 09:17:22 PM
Do they not play football in the Monaghan  schools? If we'd lost tonight the old what is being done in schools debate was coming!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 22, 2022, 09:18:50 PM
Following this on twitter. That's some turnaround from league fixture between these counties just 3 weeks ago. Sincere congratulations to all involved, this is a result that should give whole county a lift. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2022, 09:21:51 PM
All over. Antrim win 2.11 to 0.11. Great start to a big weekend for Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 22, 2022, 09:22:32 PM
What a win, under the radar. McCormick and Johnston a dynamic duo. Fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 22, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 22, 2022, 09:23:06 PM
Fantastic result. A big well done to all involved. Should keep some lads on here off their back for a while. Wouldn't bank on it though.

Exactly
It's been all doom and gloom about these boys
All negative stuff about management fighting etc
Well done lads and management 👏
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 09:32:56 PM
Fair play to the lads. Maybe there needs to be fighting amongst each group. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 22, 2022, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 09:32:56 PM
Fair play to the lads. Maybe there needs to be fighting amongst each group. 😉
Was just thinking that myself. The stories coming out of this camp weren't good but they've pulled a great result so credit where it's due. I've no idea what was true and what was bar talk, but they've done their talking on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 22, 2022, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 22, 2022, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2022, 07:58:26 AM
I'm just after digging out the 4 results to date in the Ulster minor league and it makes very depressing reading indeed! Told recently that a respected SW member of backroom team had walked away several weeks ago. Someone needs to be drilling into this to see what's going on up there.
It's a conveyor belt of doting daddies this last couple of years. This years version just as bad as last years.

Well, when you say "just as bad".....they didn't get spanked by 26 points....
The above was during the league, results weren't good. Happy at the same time to praise all involved for tonight's amazing result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 09:50:35 PM
I read somewhere today that the Full Forward is Niall Hynds from Con Magees, he's one of 3 brothers who have represented the county at 3 different age groups this season following on from Cathal at Un20 and Eoin at Senior. Has this ever happened before? McGourtys maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 09:58:11 PM
I don't think mcgourtys would have as bigger age gap. Would maybe have happened if Kieran played more senior. I have vague recollections of something like this happening in hurling but could be wrong. McMullans from Dunloy, mccloskeys loughgiel or maybe closes Rossa potentially but probably wrong on that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 09:50:35 PM
I read somewhere today that the Full Forward is Niall Hynds from Con Magees, he's one of 3 brothers who have represented the county at 3 different age groups this season following on from Cathal at Un20 and Eoin at Senior. Has this ever happened before? McGourtys maybe?

He has another year left at u17 as well. Brilliant result, completely unexpected given the shenanigans of last few weeks but great to see and well done everyone. I had heard a lot of negative chat about this group coming mostly but not exclusively from club men who had lads involved. Perhaps all the negativity galvanised the squad , I hope so. Only spoke to one man who actually told me the team was very talented and to expect an upset but I thought he was mad tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 22, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
In any event it's great to be discussing a famous championship victory instead of hashing out the usual depressing post mortems. I think we can all universally say that management are completely vindicated after a performance like that. And sincere good luck to them and the players now for the duration of the tournament.

Hopefully this will give a boost to our seniors tomorrow, they have a chance to back this up and provide us with a rare minor / senior c'ship weekend double.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 10:35:41 PM
Hardly vindicated BS, only 19 Antrim players out of 30 turned up for the match tonight!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2022, 10:38:19 PM
Probably get stuffed in the next game and we can blame the management again..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 22, 2022, 10:49:09 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 10:35:41 PM
Hardly vindicated BS, only 19 Antrim players out of 30 turned up for the match tonight!!!
Well those 19 will be there the next day so go give it a lash. Men this age can be pig headed and achieve anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 22, 2022, 11:22:20 PM
A very good win, Conhuir johnston unmarkable yet again, he's turning into a real star man at every level he plays in, McCormick also a top notch player, roll on tomorrow hopefully senior side rise to the challenge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2022, 11:24:42 PM
How did they other lads play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 11:41:45 PM
Definitely things seems to be on an upward curve, Director of football influence seems to having an effect to be fair, u20s very unlucky not to beat Derry and u17 beating Monaghan, for all my gloom there are certainly brighter days ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 22, 2022, 11:54:59 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 22, 2022, 10:35:41 PM
Hardly vindicated BS, only 19 Antrim players out of 30 turned up for the match tonight!!!

Sounds a bit like Antrim U21 hurlers in the AISF V Wexford a few years back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 23, 2022, 12:40:25 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 03:12:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2022, 12:21:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 21, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 21, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
Have a good day at work.

Thanks, I can book it off but others cant. But I am not going to fight here with you boys, far as I can see ye regularly make a holy show of yourselves arguing amongst yourselves. The talking will be done on the pitch in Corrigan Park on Saturday and you can show the province what ye are made of there. May the best team win.

Good now f**k off and stop stirring you dose.

Like you think you'd be reasonable and not be throwing out curse words, seeing as you yourselves haven't even been able to sell out your first home game in ages, rather than throwing abuse at Cavan away fans for not selling it out for you. Quite pathetic when you look at it, with your population...

Settle down.

That all you got? Have you sold any more tickets to your home support?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2022, 07:49:37 AM
McCann from half back seemed to do a bit of scoring too.  Monaghan rarely have bad underage teams. Great to get a win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 23, 2022, 08:23:54 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2022, 07:49:37 AM
McCann from half back seemed to do a bit of scoring too.  Monaghan rarely have bad underage teams. Great to get a win.

Kevin Mc Cann is a smashing young player with the genetic qualities.
Had not seen those young lads in action this year but was ways assured championship was the target.

Potts negative comments posted as to team and management.....the lads supplied the answers..

Super win and a suitable, 'be of little faith' comment made to the negativity posted herein.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 23, 2022, 08:41:49 AM
Congratulations to the minors on a fantastic performance and result. All the more impressive considering the amount of negativity the players and management have had to shoulder. All might not be well in the camp, but all you can ask for is for everyone involved to go and give everything for the cause and that's what happened.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 23, 2022, 09:13:29 AM
That's two very positive performances (adding the Under 20s very narrow defeat to Derry) that can give us all some genuine optimism for the future. There definitely seems to be a core of players within these squads who are destined to kick on into the senior ranks in the coming years, and that's pleasing to know.

A few weeks ago we were looking at under 16s and 17s shipping heavy defeats, on the back of the disastrous minor c'ship performance last year where we lost by 26 points.

We are right to ask questions if our county teams (at all levels) are shipping defeats of this size. We would all much prefer to be praising memorable performances than questioning what the hell is going on!

It looks like we have clear grounds for optimism going forward, as opposed to confinement of another generation of doom and gloom. That's some difference, and 100% credit to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 23, 2022, 02:22:01 PM
This is poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 23, 2022, 03:17:30 PM
We have been brutal but the referee has been shocking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 23, 2022, 03:38:05 PM
Abysmal against very mediocre opposition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 23, 2022, 04:02:06 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 23, 2022, 03:39:59 PM
If anyone has any sharpened knives they didn't get to use for the minors - you can fill your boots today.

I suspect they won't though. They'll get a free ride.

Anyway, that was an utterly pathetic performance all over the field.

If it was Lenny Harbinson or a local that oversaw that today they would be slaughtered as the cheap option & how we needed to get some cutting edge outside expertise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 23, 2022, 04:04:44 PM
Talking done on pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2022, 04:07:59 PM
Good man itchy. Gracious in victory  :o

Disappointing day but unfortunately used to it  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 23, 2022, 04:18:11 PM
That was horrible. Not one saving grace. HowTF are we supposed  to win matches playing no forwards? Abject
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 23, 2022, 04:36:51 PM
Terrible, and to make it worse Cavan weren't world beaters. We didn't seem to have any fwds yet our defence was wide open. Could sense the immense disappointment among the support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 23, 2022, 05:02:13 PM
Massive reality check.  We flirted with the idea of promotion for a couple of weeks but we couldn't win the big games, and we were way off it today.  We're an upper division four / lower division three team at best.  There is no obvious sign of progress sadly based on today's championship performance.
Said it before, but years of nothing at underage tells a tale.  We've pulled off a minor win this year and run a Derry U20 team missing 7 starters close.  But it's a struggle to buy into the green shoots talk.  Other counties are streets ahead, and bombing on.  So many parts of the jigsaw are missing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 23, 2022, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2022, 04:07:59 PM
Good man itchy. Gracious in victory  :o

Disappointing day but unfortunately used to it  :(

Apologies,  not meant for you or the many decent gaels in Antrim but the few lads on here with big mouths and no class. Some pretty shitty stuff was posted on here about our fear of playing in Corrigan Park so I was reacting to that. Cavan are physically and experience wise ahead of Antrim but ye have the potential if ye could get your act together at underage. Best of luck in the Tailtean Cup and who knows we might meet again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on April 23, 2022, 07:13:57 PM
Thon was brutal. Is it obligatory to enter the championship? The worst I've seen Antrim in quite a long time. Waste of money
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 23, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
I really think the Tailteann Cup be a waste of time for us. What's the point?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on April 23, 2022, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 23, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
I really think the Tailteann Cup be a waste of time for us. What's the point?

Yep, I think so. Hard to see any positives from today. We looked like a bottom Div 4 team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 23, 2022, 08:31:32 PM
The biggest concern for me was the difference in the conditioning, those Cavan lads are in serious shape and Antrim looked nowhere near them in terms of sheer size and strength.

Ricky Johnston was a massive miss and unfortunately we dont have an able replacement for full back. Marty surely should have slotted in there? Was he injured?

Ryan Murray the only forward we had today, took some class scores. Mcaleese, mcaleer, stewart and byrne the only other players who made some sort of impact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on April 23, 2022, 09:22:57 PM
I think the management must share some of the blame. Antrim looked like they turned up to play a challenge match. They looked totally unprepared. I think the county board should front up and tell us how much money was invested in that utter shambles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2022, 09:24:34 PM
Jesus! We're do you start? 23 minutes (with wind) before we had a shot, 2 man fullforward line against lads that physically were all over us, last ten minutes we push up and score 7 points?

Second half starts back to 2 man full forwards, I'm all for players being able to play anywhere on the pitch, but I'd no clue where our lads were playing.

Hopefully Roger didn't lose too much money
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 23, 2022, 10:06:25 PM
Don't wish to be a smart ass but does anyone have any idea what we were trying to do in the first 20/25 minutes.
I get they decided to concede the kick out with wind advantage (puzzling) .. but what was suppose to happen next... Congest the middle third and stem the running game... drop the sweepers in and stop the kick pass into the ff line.... or was it something more sophisticated.
It looked like total confusion with no one knowing what there role was... Marking, sweeping, pressing.... They ran through us... found forwards in half an acre of space... managed to have their own sweeper(s) ... didn't need the keeper to provide support for the running game
Whatever about getting beaten the setup was shambolic at best. At least last year against Armagh although well beaten you could see a little bit of shape in what they were doing. A 13 point hammering
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on April 23, 2022, 10:11:02 PM
Fck me lads. That was absolutely shocking.

Thank Christ for the Bann.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 23, 2022, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 23, 2022, 10:06:25 PM
Don't wish to be a smart ass but does anyone have any idea what we were trying to do in the first 20/25 minutes.
I get they decided to concede the kick out with wind advantage (puzzling) .. but what was suppose to happen next... Congest the middle third and stem the running game... drop the sweepers in and stop the kick pass into the ff line.... or was it something more sophisticated.
It looked like total confusion with no one knowing what there role was... Marking, sweeping, pressing.... They ran through us... found forwards in half an acre of space... managed to have their own sweeper(s) ... didn't need the keeper to provide support for the running game
Whatever about getting beaten the setup was shambolic at best. At least last year against Armagh although well beaten you could see a little bit of shape in what they were doing. A 13 point hammering

Perfect analysis. The players looked like they hadn't a clue what they were supposed to be doing. It really would be good to hear some explanation for this performance. Like what was supposed to be the plan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 23, 2022, 10:43:29 PM
Let's all be honest which one of us isn't glad that our county lads can now play club football. Let the proper games begin!! Ps I'd say when tailteann Cup comes around half those players won't be there.
PPS come on casements
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2022, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 23, 2022, 10:43:29 PM
Let's all be honest which one of us isn't glad that our county lads can now play club football. Let the proper games begin!! Ps I'd say when tailteann Cup comes around half those players won't be there.
PPS come on casements

Is this a joke?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 23, 2022, 11:07:55 PM
Your the man to tell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on April 23, 2022, 11:21:33 PM
That is a shocking statistic 23 minutes before we got a shot with a good wind behind us . What a shockingly bad performance and like many I had great hope going up to the match which is very rare for many Antrim geals going to watch our footballers in a championship match.Again shocking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on April 23, 2022, 11:22:34 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 23, 2022, 10:46:28 PM
On the management. The debate was had at the time of his appointment but it was futile. His supporters dug in and backed their man all the way. He knew how to win as a player. He knows what a good setup looks like etc etc.

Louth went for Mickey Harte and appear to have kicked on. We went for a boy who did a locka months in Swatragh.

Have you ever done a locka months in Swatragh?
Until you have, don't doubt McGinley's undoubted abilities.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 23, 2022, 11:33:51 PM
Worst Antrim performance in a championship in my lifetime. Embarrassed to be a Saffron tonight - a 13 point defeat by a division 4 team - that could have been 20!

Yea MR, bring on the club scene, nothing else to see here.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 23, 2022, 11:45:12 PM
Bannside it wasn't the heavy defeat that annoyed me. I was close to sideline and I got distinct impression that score at 3.0 management went into damage limitation. Not acceptable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 23, 2022, 11:51:52 PM
Two years ago Cavan won the Ulster championship. Lenny Harbinsons Antrim put them to the absolute pin of their collar. A defeat that was full of heart endeavour and pride.

Today, at home venue, the performance was the exact opposite of what you want from the same group tasked and  managed to put pride into our county at national level.

Shockingly, there are people peddling their wares at this level who are a million miles out of their depth. Unproven at any level..any of them...Chickens finally coming home to roost!

Never, ever been as embarrassed to be a Saffron as tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on April 23, 2022, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 23, 2022, 11:54:31 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 23, 2022, 11:51:52 PM
Nothing to do with the appointment! He's right, we'd guys couldn't kick or fist a pass 20 yards no movement nothing. Come on casements
Two years ago Cavan won the Ulster championship. Lenny Harbinsons Antrim put them to the absolute pin of their collar. A defeat that was full of heart endeavour and pride.

Today, at home venue, the performance was the exact opposite of what you want from the same group tasked and  managed to put pride into our county at national level.

Shockingly, there are people peddling their wares at this level who are a million miles out of their depth. Unproven at any level..any of them...Chickens finally coming home to roost!

Never, ever been as embarrassed to be a Saffron as tonight.
Ah, go fcuk! You backed this appointment on here and argued in their favour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2022, 12:10:44 AM
Hey Duine, yes you're 100% right. I did back it, thought it had real potential. Even though none of Enda Stevie Sean had anything that remotely successful on their CV's I liked the look of the punt, and backed the appointment.

Look, we can get it wrong at times. I am big enough to admit that this isn't going well. And in a constructive way I applaud you for challenging me on that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 21, 2022, 08:10:34 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on April 20, 2022, 10:41:31 PM
Jesus lads 9/4 our lads this weekend, jaysus that's buying money.

Good price in a 50/50 game.

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:13:31 AM
RC wouldn't notice £40 off his balance sheet. Like sheets in the wind lol.

Lets not get hysterical, today is a bad blip, a really bad blip tbh, but these are our players, some of the best we have, good lads who have given a lot for the cause. They are hurting too, no one goes out to be as poor as that. Mackers under 17's really did prove the doubters wrong last night, when most of us had completely written them off.

None of us expect to win Ulster senior. In a strange way it feels like a good weekend with the exceptional result in Inniskeen. It says to me that we have a future after all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 24, 2022, 01:27:54 AM
Simply AWFUL today.

1st ball we got we handpassed over the sideline. Conceding every f**king Cavan kickout was a crime. Players shitting themselves on the ball. No shot for 23 minutes was eye wateringly embarrassing.

No pattern, no ball winners, no forwards. We were at f**king home and went out with a wimper.

Mick lucky to get a yellow and not a black for slabbering nonsensically to the ref....he should've been took off as Stevie f**king Wonder knew he was gonna then end up sent off.

Eastwood and Tomas being took off at half time was strange. Tomas had tried hard and got a turnover just before the break. Eastwood hadn't got into it yet . but has a bit of f**king bite and it may have came for him.

We stood off and if we tackled we fouled. Stupid f**king fouls

They were physically superior and much more composed, despite their  bucketload of wides into the wind in the 1st half

Ryan Murray is a baller and a worker, only for him it would've been worse. Has bite, kicks balls f**king in or takes men on.

You need a forward line and a big man to kick it into. That boy Lynch won every ball for them. Surely we've 1 big man with a bit of bite can play FF

Awful.  f**king Awful,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on April 24, 2022, 06:14:12 AM
It would be nice to hear from our "Director of Football", remember him, maybe after the Election results are In?????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 24, 2022, 08:17:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:13:31 AM
RC wouldn't notice £40 off his balance sheet. Like sheets in the wind lol.

Lets not get hysterical, today is a bad blip, a really bad blip tbh, but these are our players, some of the best we have, good lads who have given a lot for the cause. They are hurting too, no one goes out to be as poor as that. Mackers under 17's really did prove the doubters wrong last night, when most of us had completely written them off.

None of us expect to win Ulster senior. In a strange way it feels like a good weekend with the exceptional result in Inniskeen. It says to me that we have a future after all.
"Let's not get hysterical" 1.5hrs after your own hysterical post. Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 08:42:25 AM
Waiting on one more contributor, would be interested to hear his thoughts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 08:44:11 AM
A lot of overreaction (shock horror). I for one can see it for what it was, a very bad day at the office. Some players froze, some spectacularly underperformed, and some played out of position which was alien to them, and 1 or 2 maybe just weren't (or sadly aren't) up to it. It was a cocktail of disappointment on the biggest day of the year for us unfortunately. However, are you seriously now saying we are in such a bad place after a couple of poor league performances against decent division 3 sides and a defeat to a resurgent Cavan side (who were Ulster champions no time ago)? Get your heads out of your ass! I for one was against the managements appointment at the time, but you can't ignore, despite the lack of merit or any form of qualifying CV's, that these lads have restored pride in wanting to play for Antrim. They've created an environment where as much is expected of players in terms of commitment and application as would be in Tyrone or Donegal etc. They've taken us from ambling around in division 4 to competing for division 2 status. Those of you now predictably turning on management as usual, what is your alternative for the county now? Let's hear it. A good bit of cop on required lads. I know we're all hurting, and questions rightly need asking, but cut the 'all is lost' bull s"@& narrative please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 08:44:11 AM
A lot of overreaction (shock horror). I for one can see it for what it was, a very bad day at the office. Some players froze, some spectacularly underperformed, and some played out of position which was alien to them, and 1 or 2 maybe just weren't (or sadly aren't) up to it. It was a cocktail of disappointment on the biggest day of the year for us unfortunately. However, are you seriously now saying we are in such a bad place after a couple of poor league performances against decent division 3 sides and a defeat to a resurgent Cavan side (who were Ulster champions no time ago)? Get your heads out of your ass! I for one was against the managements appointment at the time, but you can't ignore, despite the lack of merit or any form of qualifying CV's, that these lads have restored pride in wanting to play for Antrim. They've created an environment where as much is expected of players in terms of commitment and application as would be in Tyrone or Donegal etc. They've taken us from ambling around in division 4 to competing for division 2 status. Those of you now predictably turning on management as usual, what is your alternative for the county now? Let's hear it. A good bit of cop on required lads. I know we're all hurting, and questions rightly need asking, but cut the 'all is lost' bull s"@& narrative please.

Totally agree with every word NSS....
A bad day at the office was an adequate summary of events yesterday.
We started badly with several unforced errors from lads who had been leading the way all season led the narrative.

Mc Ginley and co have led us to a better place in my opinion and unfortunately there are those within, for whatever reason are more than quick to put the boot in...

A resurgent Cavan ran over us, and we must learn the lesson given.

Some former leaders of the pack in our county need to have a honest look within.

In former days we looked to clubs like, St John's, St Gall's, Rossa, to lead the way.....where are they now.
Belfast sides have obviously neglected their duties of care to their youth policies....
Watched Cargin under-15s totally demolish a Davitts side on their own patch on Thursday evening, and such underlines the demise of our games in one of the largest cities in Ireland.

Who within us would have believed if Nostrodamus had predicted six out of the last senior football championships heading to the South West in the past seven years?

I think a few within need to grab hold of their proverbial heads and acknowledge the stark realities.

Nobody cares more or hurts more today than Enda Mc Ginley, Stephen O' Neill, Sean Kelly and all those lads who have given a huge amount to raise our profile..


Some need to get a grip, look around and emerge blinking into the real world.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 09:40:13 AM
Ah... it's Belfasts fault  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 24, 2022, 09:57:02 AM
Strange dig at Belfast there CB, Ryan Murray was far and away Antrims best performer. You must class Hannahstown as SW territory...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 24, 2022, 09:44:47 AM
My word.....

At least we got to hear about Cargin U15s against Davitts.

The spin on this one is fantastic, yet entirely predictable.

As is your entirely predictable reply.....and your club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 10:25:40 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 24, 2022, 09:44:47 AM
My word.....

At least we got to hear about Cargin U15s against Davitts.

The spin on this one is fantastic, yet entirely predictable.

No mention of 2 man ff line with the wind, discipline issues, poor decision making, physically smaller in most areas, or when we pressed them for final 10 minutes we managed to score 7 points but came back out and went 2 man again ! laboured passing across the pitch backwards passing..

No let's say it was a bad day at the office and Davitts are shit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Yeah sorry  you're right MR2, the whole things a shambles 🙄, so what's your solution?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:21:12 AM
I also can see it for what it was. Players froze, management with questionable tactics which frustrated us in the stand so I'm sure the players were also frustrated. Bit of ill discipline. A very poor ref, pity we didn't have Hurson on the whistle instead of the sideline.

For those throwing the Lenny H name into the mix, we had years of abject managers from within our own county doing the same with poor tactics, who remembers Frank Dawson V Roscommon in Casement?  there was and still is a belief within some of the players that Enda McGinley is the man. This group will be as gutted as the next but let's not bash them. These things happen and let's get it into context here, it's a game of football. There are more important things in life.

We'll go again. Up the Saffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Trap on April 24, 2022, 11:36:19 AM
Outside view.......why not really go for the Tailtean Cup? Yes it was a bad showing yesterday but it hasn't been a bad 2 years.....louth will probably end up with a hammering at some stage this year......limerick too......its how you bounce back. And the new competition gives you that chance. Who is there to really fear if you give it your all? I can see why a Down might turn the nose up but for most counties this is a fantastic opportunity to build. Go for it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Yeah sorry  you're right MR2, the whole things a shambles 🙄, so what's your solution?

Who mentioned the whole thing?

But let's deflect by saying it's because Belfast isn't winning titles ! Christ the night.  Div 3  secured early on, positive results and close loses, so playing at home against a team below us in the leagues and we came out with negative tactics. This is meant to be the highlight of the year.

To ask you the question why were players playing out of position? And if 1 or 2 aren't up to it as you put it, why were they selected?

We looked punctured at the end, even during it. Our conditioning wasnt the same against a team playing league football below us.

You're at home, sizeable support positive league, at least die with your boots on and give it a lash, nothing to lose. I've been on the other threads talking about the second tier competition, div 3 and 4 teams should not be competing for Sam.

Plenty on here have been very negative about lots of teams and offered no solution other than, we are alright. If you can't smell the bullshit by some I can't help you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 24, 2022, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:21:12 AM
I also can see it for what it was. Players froze, management with questionable tactics which frustrated us in the stand so I'm sure the players were also frustrated. Bit of ill discipline. A very poor ref, pity we didn't have Hurson on the whistle instead of the sideline.

For those throwing the Lenny H name into the mix, we had years of abject managers from within our own county doing the same with poor tactics, who remembers Frank Dawson V Roscommon in Casement?  there was and still is a belief within some of the players that Enda McGinley is the man. This group will be as gutted as the next but let's not bash them. These things happen and let's get it into context here, it's a game of football. There are more important things in life.

We'll go again. Up the Saffs

Reality is our wins from 1982 in Ulster are:

2000 v Down at home
2003 v Cavan at home
2009 v Donegal away and Cavan at Clones
2014 v Fermanagh away

5 wins in 40 years wasn't the best form going in to yesterday.

But any time we face Cavan or Fermanagh we always are expectant as they aren't Tyrone or Donegal

But yesterday was listless, absolutely no f**king bite bar Ryan Murray and Tomas before half time.

The taking off of 1 of our most potent forwards at halftime Eastwood fucked me off....just the usual, we're not playing well take off the corner forward shite.

He had 2 long balls kicked over his head by Murray, spilled one ball he had at the start and mis timed another ball in the sun......off f**king scraps. He is a threat all game though and taking him off for no replacement in FF line was shocking

The f**king handpassing. Handpsssing to the nearest man for no reason when the man wasn't even committed etc

Handpass fucked up for our goal chance too

I'm better not thinking about it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 12:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Yeah sorry  you're right MR2, the whole things a shambles 🙄, so what's your solution?

Who mentioned the whole thing?

But let's deflect by saying it's because Belfast isn't winning titles ! Christ the night.  Div 3  secured early on, positive results and close loses, so playing at home against a team below us in the leagues and we came out with negative tactics. This is meant to be the highlight of the year.

To ask you the question why were players playing out of position? And if 1 or 2 aren't up to it as you put it, why were they selected?

We looked punctured at the end, even during it. Our conditioning wasnt the same against a team playing league football below us.

You're at home, sizeable support positive league, at least die with your boots on and give it a lash, nothing to lose. I've been on the other threads talking about the second tier competition, div 3 and 4 teams should not be competing for Sam.

Plenty on here have been very negative about lots of teams and offered no solution other than, we are alright. If you can't smell the bullshit by some I can't help you

You're pointing out what we already know, but in my opinion it's been a fairly isolated day in the grand scheme of things whereby so much has gone wrong (yes, including from the sideline). But hey, shit happens. To make this into some kind of 'crisis' is completely naive and is the type of crap that spirals from our supporters and leads to managerial changes, ultimately bringing us back to square one. I don't want that. I think anyone who doesn't see progress behind what was a hugely disappointing day, is completely blinkered to be honest.

I agree with previous poster on tailteann cup. It's should be where the focus is on. Regrouping and giving that 100% is what I expect as a supporter. And I hope to see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 12:54:40 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 12:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Yeah sorry  you're right MR2, the whole things a shambles 🙄, so what's your solution?

Who mentioned the whole thing?

But let's deflect by saying it's because Belfast isn't winning titles ! Christ the night.  Div 3  secured early on, positive results and close loses, so playing at home against a team below us in the leagues and we came out with negative tactics. This is meant to be the highlight of the year.

To ask you the question why were players playing out of position? And if 1 or 2 aren't up to it as you put it, why were they selected?

We looked punctured at the end, even during it. Our conditioning wasnt the same against a team playing league football below us.

You're at home, sizeable support positive league, at least die with your boots on and give it a lash, nothing to lose. I've been on the other threads talking about the second tier competition, div 3 and 4 teams should not be competing for Sam.

Plenty on here have been very negative about lots of teams and offered no solution other than, we are alright. If you can't smell the bullshit by some I can't help you

You're pointing out what we already know, but in my opinion it's been a fairly isolated day in the grand scheme of things whereby so much has gone wrong (yes, including from the sideline). But hey, shit happens. To make this into some kind of 'crisis' is completely naive and is the type of crap that spirals from our supporters and leads to managerial changes, ultimately bringing us back to square one. I don't want that. I think anyone who doesn't see progress behind what was a hugely disappointing day, is completely blinkered to be honest.

I agree with previous poster on tailteann cup. It's should be where the focus is on. Regrouping and giving that 100% is what I expect as a supporter. And I hope to see it.

Unfortunately it will be a new Tommy Murphy cup. The tailteann cup will not get enough of a buy in.. it should be intermediate all Ireland championship for div 3 and 4 teams... no teams at that level should be competing for Sam.. it's like a div club team trying to compete at Senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 24, 2022, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 12:10:44 AM
Hey Duine, yes you're 100% right. I did back it, thought it had real potential. Even though none of Enda Stevie Sean had anything that remotely successful on their CV's I liked the look of the punt, and backed the appointment.

Look, we can get it wrong at times. I am big enough to admit that this isn't going well. And in a constructive way I applaud you for challenging me on that.

Where was Enda etc. at before this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Enda Swatragh. Stevie Dungiven. Sean St Galls.

No sign of any of them delivering progress during those stints.

But they are all young enough, still on a steep learning curve -  the hope was they could collectively deliver something. Some believe they have, I'm personally not convinced at all tbh. I see far too many fundamentals missing for my liking.

Don't take any satisfaction saying that - would much rather be saying the opposite. Hopefully Pat Spillane will spare us his bi annual rant about how big a disgrace we are on live television tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Enda Swatragh. Stevie Dungiven. Sean St Galls.

No sign of any of them delivering progress during those stints.

But they are all young enough, still on a steep learning curve -  the hope was they could collectively deliver something. Some believe they have, I'm personally not convinced at all tbh. I see far too many fundamentals missing for my liking.

Don't take any satisfaction saying that - would much rather be saying the opposite. Hopefully Pat Spillane will spare us his bi annual rant about how big a disgrace we are on live television tonight.

We've done enough ranting on here about various performances in the past to not worry about Spillane
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 02:39:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Enda Swatragh. Stevie Dungiven. Sean St Galls.

No sign of any of them delivering progress during those stints.

But they are all young enough, still on a steep learning curve -  the hope was they could collectively deliver something. Some believe they have, I'm personally not convinced at all tbh. I see far too many fundamentals missing for my liking.

Don't take any satisfaction saying that - would much rather be saying the opposite. Hopefully Pat Spillane will spare us his bi annual rant about how big a disgrace we are on live television tonight.

By 'far too many fundamentals missing' for your liking BS, can you give examples? Is it just fundamentals from Saturdays performance? Or have you seen a lacking in these fundamental issues over a sustained period of this managements reign? I'm not (intentionally) being pedantic or obtuse, but I just can't wrap my head around the notion that progress has not been made. Particularly as we are in a position now to give the tailteann cup a good rattle, challenge again for promotion to division 2 next season, and have a handful of young players showing they are capable of coming in and improving the team further next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 02:39:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Enda Swatragh. Stevie Dungiven. Sean St Galls.

No sign of any of them delivering progress during those stints.

But they are all young enough, still on a steep learning curve -  the hope was they could collectively deliver something. Some believe they have, I'm personally not convinced at all tbh. I see far too many fundamentals missing for my liking.

Don't take any satisfaction saying that - would much rather be saying the opposite. Hopefully Pat Spillane will spare us his bi annual rant about how big a disgrace we are on live television tonight.

By 'far too many fundamentals missing' for your liking BS, can you give examples? Is it just fundamentals from Saturdays performance? Or have you seen a lacking in these fundamental issues over a sustained period of this managements reign? I'm not (intentionally) being pedantic or obtuse, but I just can't wrap my head around the notion that progress has not been made. Particularly as we are in a position now to give the tailteann cup a good rattle, challenge again for promotion to division 2 next season, and have a handful of young players showing they are capable of coming in and improving the team further next year.

I think most posts have been about the match, I'm not sure where you're going with anything else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 24, 2022, 05:37:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Enda Swatragh. Stevie Dungiven. Sean St Galls.

No sign of any of them delivering progress during those stints.

But they are all young enough, still on a steep learning curve -  the hope was they could collectively deliver something. Some believe they have, I'm personally not convinced at all tbh. I see far too many fundamentals missing for my liking.

Don't take any satisfaction saying that - would much rather be saying the opposite. Hopefully Pat Spillane will spare us his bi annual rant about how big a disgrace we are on live television tonight.
I would say there is definitely satisfaction with you BS. Wee digs here and there, the management had no success previously etc, Lenny ran the same team close etc etc. Tedious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 24, 2022, 05:37:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Enda Swatragh. Stevie Dungiven. Sean St Galls.

No sign of any of them delivering progress during those stints.

But they are all young enough, still on a steep learning curve -  the hope was they could collectively deliver something. Some believe they have, I'm personally not convinced at all tbh. I see far too many fundamentals missing for my liking.

Don't take any satisfaction saying that - would much rather be saying the opposite. Hopefully Pat Spillane will spare us his bi annual rant about how big a disgrace we are on live television tonight.
I would say there is definitely satisfaction with you BS. Wee digs here and there, the management had no success previously etc, Lenny ran the same team close etc etc. Tedious.

I would suggest Enda may well be considering his options
no insight as to such.
But am also more than sure whatever comments made here will not ruffle his feathers at all.

Do know that there will not be a long queue of applicants if he does look to abandon ship.....hope not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 07:18:05 PM
Full steam ahead I take it for county players to be with their clubs? Will the Tommy Murphy tailteann cup mean the county lads will have to miss out on the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 24, 2022, 07:29:40 PM
That's Endas call CB. Stick or run -  I heard a rumour that Stevie was probably moving on a few weeks ago. Maybe they think they can't take us any further. There's a saying in football you're only as good as your last game, and our last three have been stinkers.

Some of you here are more than happy with the job they've done to date..that's completely your call.

Re fundamentals. Please don't get me started. I can think of half a dozen aspects that do not please. Take fitness as one.

I've never seen a team capitulate do much in second halves. Remember being 11 up against Leitrim with 25 mins to go, and we sneaked a last gasp victory courtesy of Tomas point.

Armagh in the cship, draw at HT, lost by 13.
5 up against Westmeath three weeks ago, lost by 4.
Lost second half yesterday by 12 points.

These are staggering capitulations - lack of game management nous or inferior fitness, decide for yourself!

Naw, I'm not convinced. Sorry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 24, 2022, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 07:29:40 PM
That's Endas call CB. Stick or run -  I heard a rumour that Stevie was probably moving on a few weeks ago. Maybe they think they can't take us any further. There's a saying in football you're only as good as your last game, and our last three have been stinkers.

Some of you here are more than happy with the job they've done to date..that's completely your call.

Re fundamentals. Please don't get me started. I can think of half a dozen aspects that do not please. Take fitness as one.

I've never seen a team capitulate do much in second halves. Remember being 11 up against Leitrim with 25 mins to go, and we sneaked a last gasp victory courtesy of Tomas point.

Armagh in the cship, draw at HT, lost by 13.
5 up against Westmeath three weeks ago, lost by 4.
Lost second half yesterday by 12 points.

These are staggering capitulations - lack of game management nous or inferior fitness, decide for yourself!

Naw, I'm not convinced. Sorry.

Regarding fundamentals.

I just thought of Donegal's goal today - the slick quality handpass which had to be precise to Mc Breaty today.

Compare that with Antrim's goal chance in the first half yesterday and it was overcooked to Mc Cann iirc with no real pressure on the handpasser. A relatively straightforward goal chance messed up.

That's the simple difference at the higher level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 24, 2022, 07:29:40 PM
That's Endas call CB. Stick or run -  I heard a rumour that Stevie was probably moving on a few weeks ago. Maybe they think they can't take us any further. There's a saying in football you're only as good as your last game, and our last three have been stinkers.

Some of you here are more than happy with the job they've done to date..that's completely your call.

Re fundamentals. Please don't get me started. I can think of half a dozen aspects that do not please. Take fitness as one.

I've never seen a team capitulate do much in second halves. Remember being 11 up against Leitrim with 25 mins to go, and we sneaked a last gasp victory courtesy of Tomas point.

Armagh in the cship, draw at HT, lost by 13.
5 up against Westmeath three weeks ago, lost by 4.
Lost second half yesterday by 12 points.

These are staggering capitulations - lack of game management nous or inferior fitness, decide for yourself!

Naw, I'm not convinced. Sorry.

As I said BS....the man in question and his team will not give a flying fcuk what yourself or myself think of him, either positive or negative.

I am more than aware of our limitations and until the 'big guns' in our county start firing again I am afraid even the Tailteen or Tommy Murphy is a step too far..

The talent is just not there I am afraid and for the life of me I could not name one single player who has been overlooked...
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 24, 2022, 09:44:21 PM
Have to say Dermot McAleese is a fantastic footballer, wasn't at his best yesterday but he's an 8/10 normally and a likeable fella, looking forward to a good game Tuesday evening what should draw a good crowd to Kelly Park considering its only game of the evening, May well be JMK first real test
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 08:44:11 AM
A lot of overreaction (shock horror). I for one can see it for what it was, a very bad day at the office. Some players froze, some spectacularly underperformed, and some played out of position which was alien to them, and 1 or 2 maybe just weren't (or sadly aren't) up to it. It was a cocktail of disappointment on the biggest day of the year for us unfortunately. However, are you seriously now saying we are in such a bad place after a couple of poor league performances against decent division 3 sides and a defeat to a resurgent Cavan side (who were Ulster champions no time ago)? Get your heads out of your ass! I for one was against the managements appointment at the time, but you can't ignore, despite the lack of merit or any form of qualifying CV's, that these lads have restored pride in wanting to play for Antrim. They've created an environment where as much is expected of players in terms of commitment and application as would be in Tyrone or Donegal etc. They've taken us from ambling around in division 4 to competing for division 2 status. Those of you now predictably turning on management as usual, what is your alternative for the county now? Let's hear it. A good bit of cop on required lads. I know we're all hurting, and questions rightly need asking, but cut the 'all is lost' bull s"@& narrative please.

Totally agree with every word NSS....
A bad day at the office was an adequate summary of events yesterday.
We started badly with several unforced errors from lads who had been leading the way all season led the narrative.

Mc Ginley and co have led us to a better place in my opinion and unfortunately there are those within, for whatever reason are more than quick to put the boot in...

A resurgent Cavan ran over us, and we must learn the lesson given.

Some former leaders of the pack in our county need to have a honest look within.

In former days we looked to clubs like, St John's, St Gall's, Rossa, to lead the way.....where are they now.
Belfast sides have obviously neglected their duties of care to their youth policies....
Watched Cargin under-15s totally demolish a Davitts side on their own patch on Thursday evening, and such underlines the demise of our games in one of the largest cities in Ireland.

Who within us would have believed if Nostrodamus had predicted six out of the last senior football championships heading to the South West in the past seven years?

I think a few within need to grab hold of their proverbial heads and acknowledge the stark realities.

Nobody cares more or hurts more today than Enda Mc Ginley, Stephen O' Neill, Sean Kelly and all those lads who have given a huge amount to raise our profile..


Some need to get a grip, look around and emerge blinking into the real world.


Cargin U15s are playing in Div 2, there are 5 Belfast clubs playing in Div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 08:44:11 AM
A lot of overreaction (shock horror). I for one can see it for what it was, a very bad day at the office. Some players froze, some spectacularly underperformed, and some played out of position which was alien to them, and 1 or 2 maybe just weren't (or sadly aren't) up to it. It was a cocktail of disappointment on the biggest day of the year for us unfortunately. However, are you seriously now saying we are in such a bad place after a couple of poor league performances against decent division 3 sides and a defeat to a resurgent Cavan side (who were Ulster champions no time ago)? Get your heads out of your ass! I for one was against the managements appointment at the time, but you can't ignore, despite the lack of merit or any form of qualifying CV's, that these lads have restored pride in wanting to play for Antrim. They've created an environment where as much is expected of players in terms of commitment and application as would be in Tyrone or Donegal etc. They've taken us from ambling around in division 4 to competing for division 2 status. Those of you now predictably turning on management as usual, what is your alternative for the county now? Let's hear it. A good bit of cop on required lads. I know we're all hurting, and questions rightly need asking, but cut the 'all is lost' bull s"@& narrative please.

Totally agree with every word NSS....
A bad day at the office was an adequate summary of events yesterday.
We started badly with several unforced errors from lads who had been leading the way all season led the narrative.

Mc Ginley and co have led us to a better place in my opinion and unfortunately there are those within, for whatever reason are more than quick to put the boot in...

A resurgent Cavan ran over us, and we must learn the lesson given.

Some former leaders of the pack in our county need to have a honest look within.

In former days we looked to clubs like, St John's, St Gall's, Rossa, to lead the way.....where are they now.
Belfast sides have obviously neglected their duties of care to their youth policies....
Watched Cargin under-15s totally demolish a Davitts side on their own patch on Thursday evening, and such underlines the demise of our games in one of the largest cities in Ireland.

Who within us would have believed if Nostrodamus had predicted six out of the last senior football championships heading to the South West in the past seven years?

I think a few within need to grab hold of their proverbial heads and acknowledge the stark realities.

Nobody cares more or hurts more today than Enda Mc Ginley, Stephen O' Neill, Sean Kelly and all those lads who have given a huge amount to raise our profile..


Some need to get a grip, look around and emerge blinking into the real world.


Cargin U15s are playing in Div 2, there are 5 Belfast clubs playing in Div 1

What 5?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:07:44 PM
St Pauls, St Brigids, St Galls, St Endas, Sarsfields
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:07:44 PM
St Pauls, St Brigids, St Galls, St Endas, Sarsfields

Ah but...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:07:44 PM
St Pauls, St Brigids, St Galls, St Endas, Sarsfields

St Endas SW team. Have been for years due to failings in South Antrim. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:07:44 PM
St Pauls, St Brigids, St Galls, St Endas, Sarsfields

St Endas SW team. Have been for years due to failings in South Antrim. 😉

The rise of SW has brought this current Antrim team on to new levels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on April 25, 2022, 07:05:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:07:44 PM
St Pauls, St Brigids, St Galls, St Endas, Sarsfields

St Endas SW team. Have been for years due to failings in South Antrim. 😉


That's a bit disrespectable to the SA volunteers, and wrong. NE play Go Games, and at U13 Level in SA
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 25, 2022, 08:39:29 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 25, 2022, 07:05:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2022, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on April 24, 2022, 11:07:44 PM
St Pauls, St Brigids, St Galls, St Endas, Sarsfields

St Endas SW team. Have been for years due to failings in South Antrim. 😉


That's a bit disrespectable to the SA volunteers, and wrong. NE play Go Games, and at U13 Level in SA

Indeed it may well be a tad disrespectful, but may I remind you the last three minor titles came to the South West and having had a close look at one of the top Belfast base club in Division One of the minor league yesterday the immediate future is not likely to be Blue..

Can I remind you CD that Belfast is a huge city of over 600k souls within, whilst most South West parishes only approach 1k....and having ruled to roost in football terms for almost a century the wheels do seem to have come off the proverbial wagon in recent times...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 25, 2022, 08:57:28 AM
We need both regions strong and all club's to step up the quality of their juvenile programmes. Even though SW clubs are clearly in the ascendancy, I would be of the opinion that nothing in Antrim atm would live with the great St Galls of over a decade ago, or the generation before that when St Paul's were the force. Before that an almost unbeatable St Johns. Lamhs would come and go too, and from SW only Cargin delivered a consistent, and quality challenge.

Instead of seeing things purely from an own club view, wouldn't it be great if all club's raised their game by 50%, and this county could have players that are talked about throughout Ireland, for the right reasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
Jesus, this is getting tedious.. We are better than you, nope, we are better than you !!

I certainly hope after all these years that Antrim will improve, but I'm not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel. St Teresa's pulled out of div 4 hurling, that's no senior hurling in their club this year, I've said it many times, we have too many clubs, and too many dual clubs, the sooner they fix that the better..

Its handy being a single code club, all efforts are put into one basket, you have mad examples of the likes of S'neil and others that buck that trend, it won't last long as that set of players will drop off and the cycle continues. The reality in Belfast is the numbers that people throw up is completely wrong, you don't have 600k looking to play GAA and any fool that throws those numbers up is daft.

When you live in a small town/village and the only sport in town is football or hurling then you have a captivated pool of players, you live in a city where the schools encourage multiple sports then you look at those numbers and they start tumbling.

Reduce the clubs at senior level, have more focused one code clubs and players will, unfortunately need to decide which sport they want to excel at and which sport will be recreational.

Teams and the players will only improve that will feed better into the senior county set up, we ain't Dublin or even Cork or Limerick.

Was watching some of the games yesterday and the thing that struck me was obviously the numbers at the games, Mayo game looked like Croke park in terms of the people at it, but the passion showed by the kids when the cameras were focusing in on them during play or after scores. Corrigan not so much. I don't know how you get that passion back into the kids or even get it going, but that's what Antrim need at its basic level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 25, 2022, 09:37:42 AM
Nothing in Antrim at the minute would live with St Pauls in the late 90s? They won 3 championships between 1994 and 1997. Jesus you talk some balls BS. Then again how would you know about Division 1 football in Antrim back then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2022, 10:06:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
Jesus, this is getting tedious.. We are better than you, nope, we are better than you !!

I certainly hope after all these years that Antrim will improve, but I'm not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel. St Teresa's pulled out of div 4 hurling, that's no senior hurling in their club this year, I've said it many times, we have too many clubs, and too many dual clubs, the sooner they fix that the better..

Its handy being a single code club, all efforts are put into one basket, you have mad examples of the likes of S'neil and others that buck that trend, it won't last long as that set of players will drop off and the cycle continues. The reality in Belfast is the numbers that people throw up is completely wrong, you don't have 600k looking to play GAA and any fool that throws those numbers up is daft.

When you live in a small town/village and the only sport in town is football or hurling then you have a captivated pool of players, you live in a city where the schools encourage multiple sports then you look at those numbers and they start tumbling.

Reduce the clubs at senior level, have more focused one code clubs and players will, unfortunately need to decide which sport they want to excel at and which sport will be recreational.

Teams and the players will only improve that will feed better into the senior county set up, we ain't Dublin or even Cork or Limerick.

Was watching some of the games yesterday and the thing that struck me was obviously the numbers at the games, Mayo game looked like Croke park in terms of the people at it, but the passion showed by the kids when the cameras were focusing in on them during play or after scores. Corrigan not so much. I don't know how you get that passion back into the kids or even get it going, but that's what Antrim need at its basic level

Even the SW & NA refs are the best 🤣🤣🤣

I hear St Agnes have also pulled the senior hurling team this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2022, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 25, 2022, 09:37:42 AM
Nothing in Antrim at the minute would live with St Pauls in the late 90s? They won 3 championships between 1994 and 1997. Jesus you talk some balls BS. Then again how would you know about Division 1 football in Antrim back then.

Yeah St Paul's were very good but never pushed on, that 'day' in Casement meant they lost momentum and we snuck in and St Paul's have never recovered, that great run of teams came to an end and they have struggled ever since.

Brilliant work being put in by underage coaches now for few years, but its that jump from juvenile to senior which is making life hard, not just for St Paul's but the rest.

A holistic approach is required I think, I don't think Gaelfast will touch the surface of what's needed, I've been away from the coalface at the club so its difficult to fully assess that side of things other than seeing the results or talking to club mates who are looking after teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 25, 2022, 10:19:37 AM
Yeah they lost momentum 'that day' MR2. Beat by 4 points. Losing the final to the same team the year before, and the quarter final to the same team the year before that also caused them to lose momentum lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 25, 2022, 10:39:53 AM
Some hysterical nonsense posted on here as past few days.  Reality bites and some have got carried away after a good start to the league campaign.    Management and players both can look at themselves to see what went wrong but the conclusion will be that we were beaten by a better and physically superior team operating at a higher level than us.   We have no superstars to bring into the fold so we have what we have and need to work with them.  Decision making and execution of basic skills is still lacking and one wonders how long it takes (or even how possible it is) to coach this out of senior intercounty players who continue to operate like this.  As i said we have no one else other than what we have.

Personal thoughts on management were the initial game strategy didn't work, or it took too long to work out Cavan's game plan.    But we worked our way back into it. Whatever the half time team talk was it did not work and the 2nd half changes disrupted whatever rhythm the players had played themselves into.   On the players front, they showed heart to get back into the game but the utter capitulation following the red card was hugely worrying. Nothing management could do about that.  Believe there were 4 points in it at the time of the red card.  The excuse for failure was handed to the players then and there and they readily took it.  Perhaps it is the wake up call both management and players need but they will all be hurting today. 

Progress has been made, no doubt about that both in terms of physicality and playing nous but we have still years to go and Antrim supporters still continue to want the quick fix option.   The greater question is can this team develop and learn together, or will this collection of players simply never get there regardless of management?

It feels like the fallout from the Louth match has soured the milk with many and the disappointment of failure to get promoted to Div 2 has culminated to this point.   Whether McGinley wants or gets another term is up for debate. Again saturday was a reality check, but can we learn collectively and go again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2022, 10:44:54 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 25, 2022, 10:19:37 AM
Yeah they lost momentum 'that day' MR2. Beat by 4 points. Losing the final to the same team the year before, and the quarter final to the same team the year before that also caused them to lose momentum lol.

They weren't out of being championship contenders, they just lost momentum of winning championships.. winning 3 in as many years is pretty decent we played them in 2002 hammered them and they just fell away after that. My point is to your post was that the teams in Belfast have all struggled to maintain decent senior teams.

Lamhs the Johnnies and ourselves are the only teams left in senior championship in the last 30 years that have won the senior championship. Rossa last win was 91, all these teams play both codes its very hard to do, If Rossa concentrated on one code they could deliver a championship same could be said for the Johnnies

It's madness if you look at what's required for a senior team to get to that level. If you look at your own training nights and Ports training nights plus games and recovery its a lot, factor in another manager looking the same approach for hurling during the same week...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 25, 2022, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 25, 2022, 10:19:37 AM
Yeah they lost momentum 'that day' MR2. Beat by 4 points. Losing the final to the same team the year before, and the quarter final to the same team the year before that also caused them to lose momentum lol.

I would safely say MR2 thanks the lord every morning for that 'day' in Casement Park.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2022, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 25, 2022, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 25, 2022, 10:19:37 AM
Yeah they lost momentum 'that day' MR2. Beat by 4 points. Losing the final to the same team the year before, and the quarter final to the same team the year before that also caused them to lose momentum lol.

I would safely say MR2 thanks the lord every morning for that 'day' in Casement Park.

Bit of a trend in those years, even the hurlers wanted to be kicked out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 25, 2022, 10:52:34 AM
Maybe its time to give this dual club nonsense a rest.  Just because you don't win the competition doesn't mean you are not a good team or are not competitive. Slaughtneil blew the argument out of the water and yet the excuse is still being peddled by those struggling to win outright in both codes.     Even a small bit of research on the subject shows children playing multiple sports end up with the greatest chance of being the best.   Tiger woods is the exception, Michael Jordan is the the norm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2022, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 25, 2022, 10:52:34 AM
Maybe its time to give this dual club nonsense a rest.  Just because you don't win the competition doesn't mean you are not a good team or are not competitive. Slaughtneil blew the argument out of the water and yet the excuse is still being peddled by those struggling to win outright in both codes.     Even a small bit of research on the subject shows children playing multiple sports end up with the greatest chance of being the best.   Tiger woods is the exception, Michael Jordan is the the norm.

I said in previous posts that S'neil and a couple of others are the exception to the rule.. there are over 2,200 gaa clubs in Ireland and you are looking at around 2 or 3 teams that buck the trend, there is a shelf life to it also, as those teams fade out once that batch of players retire.

If you don't think being a dual club is an issue that's fine..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 25, 2022, 11:01:49 AM
I don't but fully respect that you do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim at heart1 on April 25, 2022, 11:02:53 AM
Enda got it completely wrong on Saturday
How did we play 14 behind the ball and still get destroyed in the full back line
We played Eastwood at full forward on his own for long periods in the first half with poor service into him and then made a scapegoat of him bringing him off
In my opinion we need R Murray closer to the goals, hes our only forward that can compete at that level
We are so far off the pace 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 25, 2022, 11:10:25 AM
Been reading through the forum as last while and cant help but think to myslef how delusional alot of the commentators are on here.

When are we going to wake up to the reality that Antrim Footballers from underage age to Senior level have things arse about face.
We fire money at senior management teams and structures (eye watering amounts) and treat the kids like a bunch of orphans who barely get a tracksuit never mind anything significant that aids their development. Even if Antrim had of beat Cavan, is there any longevity in carrying on the way we are? Minors got a result v Monaghan and were very impressive, and u20s battled hard v Derry, but honestly, neither will/would have won f**k all. Flash in the pan results are no way of gauging success for Antrim.

How are all shocked and surprised that a management team, whether Lenny, Dawson, McGinley, havnt been able to be successful at Championship level when we arent consistently blooding established underaged players into the squad that have achieved or competed at underage level, or have even been developed into senior footballers? Last decent Minor team we had i think Delargy managed them to an Ulster Final in 06 and we havnt won a minor ulster since 1982. So wheres the expectation that we should be beating a Cavan team who won an Ulster Senior 2 years ago and gave Dublin a tighter contest than we did with them Saturday?

If anyone on here is any positions of power within the County Board,  concentrate your efforts on the youth. Thats were success will eventually come from

Say it again...DELUSIONAL

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 25, 2022, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 25, 2022, 10:39:53 AM
Some hysterical nonsense posted on here as past few days.  Reality bites and some have got carried away after a good start to the league campaign.    Management and players both can look at themselves to see what went wrong but the conclusion will be that we were beaten by a better and physically superior team operating at a higher level than us.   We have no superstars to bring into the fold so we have what we have and need to work with them.  Decision making and execution of basic skills is still lacking and one wonders how long it takes (or even how possible it is) to coach this out of senior intercounty players who continue to operate like this.  As i said we have no one else other than what we have.

Personal thoughts on management were the initial game strategy didn't work, or it took too long to work out Cavan's game plan.    But we worked our way back into it. Whatever the half time team talk was it did not work and the 2nd half changes disrupted whatever rhythm the players had played themselves into.   On the players front, they showed heart to get back into the game but the utter capitulation following the red card was hugely worrying. Nothing management could do about that.  Believe there were 4 points in it at the time of the red card.  The excuse for failure was handed to the players then and there and they readily took it.  Perhaps it is the wake up call both management and players need but they will all be hurting today. 

Progress has been made, no doubt about that both in terms of physicality and playing nous but we have still years to go and Antrim supporters still continue to want the quick fix option.   The greater question is can this team develop and learn together, or will this collection of players simply never get there regardless of management?

It feels like the fallout from the Louth match has soured the milk with many and the disappointment of failure to get promoted to Div 2 has culminated to this point.   Whether McGinley wants or gets another term is up for debate. Again saturday was a reality check, but can we learn collectively and go again?

Spike some reasonable thoughts. I would have serious doubts though about how the team can develop and learn from the current setup without the introduction of an experienced advisor or a proven coach being added to the setup.

Teams are a reflection of management where you try to maximise the output from the resources you have.  Now the expectation of most reasonable people was that it was a 60/40 or thereabouts game in Cavan's favour. Most were expecting a strong performance with a well organised setup where we would give it a good go.

What were the tactics in the first half
Concede the kick out with wind advantage (puzzling) .. What was suppose to happen next... Congest the middle third and stem the running game... drop the sweepers in and stop the kick pass into the ff line.... or was it something more sophisticated.
It looked like total confusion with no one knowing what there role was... Marking, sweeping, pressing.... They ran through us... found forwards in half an acre of space... managed to have their own sweeper(s) ... didn't need the keeper to provide support for the running game

Having had 2 years, numerous sessions, played @ least 10 games this year to have a setup like that. No visible defensive setup, no structure, no leadership, no communication, running straight through us, kicking straight through us, Cavan forward receiving ball in @ least 1/2 an acre of space.

This is not a fitness issue, this was from the first minute. Never mind S&C, skills, technical abilty etc This is simply having a disciplined setup, structure and communication which wasn't there. If the opposition can work through it, wear you down, unlock it well and good but at least lay down the challenge. At least make the opponent have to work.

On the offensive side a few Hail Marys into 1v2, 2v3 situations.

We did get a 5-10 minute spell where we looked to throw of the shackles and started to engage and compete.

My thoughts are that while some aspects have improved that was a muddled mess and coaching car crash.

While it may have been a 4 point game before the red card it felt like, looked like and was a 13 point hammering.

Cavan are a decent team, arguably a top 10-12ish team, We are probably about 20ish so I appreciate there is a gap.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 25, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
Jeez, I am at a loss to understand why we need the services of outside management.

Lotta experts within.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 25, 2022, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 25, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
Jeez, I am at a loss to understand why we need the services of outside management.

Lotta experts within.....

"Experienced advisor or a proven coach being added to the setup"

No mention of outside manager.

Acknowledged progress in some areas

Not an Expert but Allowed to have an opinion

Feel free to answer any of the questions posed, contest any of the points

I have no axe to grind with anyone

Look forward to the answers & points contested in a constructive manner





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 25, 2022, 03:06:20 PM
Down are crap, Armagh were brutal yesterday and antrim are always crap. Aghagallon men are running out of counties that they can support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 25, 2022, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 25, 2022, 03:06:20 PM
Down are crap, Armagh were brutal yesterday and antrim are always crap. Aghagallon men are running out of counties that they can support.

Move to Toome then JS....Derry next door and Tyrone just up the road....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2022, 03:24:11 PM
The jury is still out on derry too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 25, 2022, 05:31:21 PM
Would agree with Rodger Mona's assessment above.  Standard of underage games I have watched is generally very ordinary. Even so, each year there'll be a couple of decent county minors with potential - does anyone even keep track of them to put them on a pathway to the county senior set up? 

And I've a feeling Tyrone will have far too much for Derry. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 25, 2022, 06:50:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 24, 2022, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2022, 08:44:11 AM
A lot of overreaction (shock horror). I for one can see it for what it was, a very bad day at the office. Some players froze, some spectacularly underperformed, and some played out of position which was alien to them, and 1 or 2 maybe just weren't (or sadly aren't) up to it. It was a cocktail of disappointment on the biggest day of the year for us unfortunately. However, are you seriously now saying we are in such a bad place after a couple of poor league performances against decent division 3 sides and a defeat to a resurgent Cavan side (who were Ulster champions no time ago)? Get your heads out of your ass! I for one was against the managements appointment at the time, but you can't ignore, despite the lack of merit or any form of qualifying CV's, that these lads have restored pride in wanting to play for Antrim. They've created an environment where as much is expected of players in terms of commitment and application as would be in Tyrone or Donegal etc. They've taken us from ambling around in division 4 to competing for division 2 status. Those of you now predictably turning on management as usual, what is your alternative for the county now? Let's hear it. A good bit of cop on required lads. I know we're all hurting, and questions rightly need asking, but cut the 'all is lost' bull s"@& narrative please.

Totally agree with every word NSS....
A bad day at the office was an adequate summary of events yesterday.
We started badly with several unforced errors from lads who had been leading the way all season led the narrative.

Mc Ginley and co have led us to a better place in my opinion and unfortunately there are those within, for whatever reason are more than quick to put the boot in...

A resurgent Cavan ran over us, and we must learn the lesson given.

Some former leaders of the pack in our county need to have a honest look within.

In former days we looked to clubs like, St John's, St Gall's, Rossa, to lead the way.....where are they now.
Belfast sides have obviously neglected their duties of care to their youth policies....
Watched Cargin under-15s totally demolish a Davitts side on their own patch on Thursday evening, and such underlines the demise of our games in one of the largest cities in Ireland.

Who within us would have believed if Nostrodamus had predicted six out of the last senior football championships heading to the South West in the past seven years?

I think a few within need to grab hold of their proverbial heads and acknowledge the stark realities.

Nobody cares more or hurts more today than Enda Mc Ginley, Stephen O' Neill, Sean Kelly and all those lads who have given a huge amount to raise our profile..


Some need to get a grip, look around and emerge blinking into the real world.
Neglected youth policies in Belfast??????? U mean they have stuck close to the rule book on Amateurism
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2022, 06:53:08 PM
I don't know why this has become a country city thing but anything relating to money, your goto, if it changes hands does so at senior level not youth level  :o

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 08:03:51 AM
Just read Maddens critique of the Antrim performance on Saturday in yesterdays Irish News. Have to agree with everything he said. BUT having watched Creggan lose to Cargin in that dire final a few years ago, where a point down they still kept everyone behind the ball to the end and also having watched Swatraghs meek surrender to Glen last season not sure he is best placed to comment. Maybe he has learned lessons through these defeats, I'm assuming that is the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2022, 08:16:42 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 08:03:51 AM
Just read Maddens critique of the Antrim performance on Saturday in yesterdays Irish News. Have to agree with everything he said. BUT having watched Creggan lose to Cargin in that dire final a few years ago, where a point down they still kept everyone behind the ball to the end and also having watched Swatraghs meek surrender to Glen last season not sure he is best placed to comment. Maybe he has learned lessons through these defeats, I'm assuming that is the case.

TBF it is kind of kettle and pot here EOC, Antrim employed pretty much the same tactics as Madden's teams have done in the past. Also in that final there was another team involved who hardly shot the lights out either.

That final should have been a wake up call to the whole county and the County Board. That was the way football in the county was heading and we are still on that path. Absolutely dire, no matter what coach is invovled.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 08:32:30 AM
That final was poor but that wasn't my point. The following years final was a classic and last years semis were both good games. Point was more aimed at Kevin not being best placed to comment on it given recent seasons and his own teams styles and the fashion they exited the championship. As I said I actually agreed with his whole article.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 08:51:31 AM
Read Kevin's article too, and he's spot on. He called out the lack of support play, eg the runner had very few sensible lay off options. Also that every team needs two or three touch tight defenders as a priority. Taking half forwards and turning them into designated corner backs was always going to come back to bite at some stage.

Irish News also didn't hold back from calling it out as a bit of a shitshow too. One team was well prepared, the other was nowhere near at championship pitch.

Maybe management and team can regroup, go through a few rounds of the Tailltean with a kind draw, but from what I see, this bubble has burst.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2022, 08:56:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2022, 08:16:42 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 08:03:51 AM
Just read Maddens critique of the Antrim performance on Saturday in yesterdays Irish News. Have to agree with everything he said. BUT having watched Creggan lose to Cargin in that dire final a few years ago, where a point down they still kept everyone behind the ball to the end and also having watched Swatraghs meek surrender to Glen last season not sure he is best placed to comment. Maybe he has learned lessons through these defeats, I'm assuming that is the case.

TBF it is kind of kettle and pot here EOC, Antrim employed pretty much the same tactics as Madden's teams have done in the past. Also in that final there was another team involved who hardly shot the lights out either.

That final should have been a wake up call to the whole county and the County Board. That was the way football in the county was heading and we are still on that path. Absolutely dire, no matter what coach is invovled.




Was there as much negativity in 1987 when at galls beat cargin 0-5 to 0-4, reality is its all about winning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 09:03:20 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 08:51:31 AM
Read Kevin's article too, and he's spot on. He called out the lack of support play, eg the runner had very few sensible lay off options. Also that every team needs two or three touch tight defenders as a priority. Taking half forwards and turning them into designated corner backs was always going to come back to bite at some stage.

Irish News also didn't hold back from calling it out as a bit of a shitshow too. One team was well prepared, the other was nowhere near at championship pitch.

Maybe management and team can regroup, go through a few rounds of the Tailltean with a kind draw, but from what I see, this bubble has burst.
Yes he was right, but do Kevins teams do the above?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 26, 2022, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 08:32:30 AM
That final was poor but that wasn't my point. The following years final was a classic and last years semis were both good games. Point was more aimed at Kevin not being best placed to comment on it given recent seasons and his own teams styles and the fashion they exited the championship. As I said I actually agreed with his whole article.

The semi final that year of Cargin against St Galls was one of the best games I have watched in club football. Creggan don't play like that now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2022, 08:56:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2022, 08:16:42 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 08:03:51 AM
Just read Maddens critique of the Antrim performance on Saturday in yesterdays Irish News. Have to agree with everything he said. BUT having watched Creggan lose to Cargin in that dire final a few years ago, where a point down they still kept everyone behind the ball to the end and also having watched Swatraghs meek surrender to Glen last season not sure he is best placed to comment. Maybe he has learned lessons through these defeats, I'm assuming that is the case.

TBF it is kind of kettle and pot here EOC, Antrim employed pretty much the same tactics as Madden's teams have done in the past. Also in that final there was another team involved who hardly shot the lights out either.

That final should have been a wake up call to the whole county and the County Board. That was the way football in the county was heading and we are still on that path. Absolutely dire, no matter what coach is invovled.




Was there as much negativity in 1987 when at galls beat cargin 0-5 to 0-4, reality is its all about winning

Up in Rasharkin, Christ that was poor, was it not 1990? Think I was minor that year, St Johns played St Endas in the minor final, could be wrong.. I don't know why the tactics were so poor that day considering it wasn't bad weather wise and both teams were not known for that style
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 10:11:11 AM
Managers are mixing it up more nowadays. First it was all out attack, then all defensive...good managers are finding the balance between the two.

On every team I would have at least two defenders who are earmarked  to go toe to toe with a designated dangerman, and always have at least three all moving forwards who can provide quality long ball options.

You rarely see the three four five phase run anymore. All you see now is one or two straight line runs and give up if ball dosent come in. Not nearly enough.

Relying on one forward (Odhran) was never ever going to work. I'd have played Conor Murray on top of the keeper (as Cavan did with Paddy Clarke, starting runs from there) with Ryan playing off the brother, coming in from the right on his good foot. Surely these are the most basic things we are talking about.

Around the middle third we need 8 or 9 absolute workhorses, ability to do the required km, and fit to play the running game that suits us. Unfortunately we had two or three in this category who looked very uncomfortable in providing this function. Conor Stewarts first meaningful match all season, come on, that's just downright wrong.

With tweaking and some common sense management and players could regroup and have a lash, but if it hasn't been done to date, I fear it's not going to happen. If you can't see it in the first place how can you be expected to fix it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
Mr2 correct it was 1990
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 10:11:11 AM
Managers are mixing it up more nowadays. First it was all out attack, then all defensive...good managers are finding the balance between the two.

On every team I would have at least two defenders who are earmarked  to go toe to toe with a designated dangerman, and always have at least three all moving forwards who can provide quality long ball options.

You rarely see the three four five phase run anymore. All you see now is one or two straight line runs and give up if ball dosent come in. Not nearly enough.

Relying on one forward (Odhran) was never ever going to work. I'd have played Conor Murray on top of the keeper (as Cavan did with Paddy Clarke, starting runs from there) with Ryan playing off the brother, coming in from the right on his good foot. Surely these are the most basic things we are talking about.

Around the middle third we need 8 or 9 absolute workhorses, ability to do the required km, and fit to play the running game that suits us. Unfortunately we had two or three in this category who looked very uncomfortable in providing this function. Conor Stewarts first meaningful match all season, come on, that's just downright wrong.

With tweaking and some common sense management and players could regroup and have a lash, but if it hasn't been done to date, I fear it's not going to happen. If you can't see it in the first place how can you be expected to fix it.

Who could have matched and better their no.11? Christ I wouldn't have liked to have my picture taken beside him never mind marking him!! He showed for every ball and collected most of them. The ball also stuck when it went in, very rarely did they fumble or make those minor mistakes. direct running too.

The level was way above what we have encountered in the league. The physical side of things needs improving, hopefully its heads down over the winter and build on the strength and conditioning they have started. To be honest I wouldn't put much effort into this new competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 26, 2022, 10:42:56 AM
Oisín McConville berating the lack of crowd and atmosphere on Sunday on Hihgland Radio compared with Ballybofey. Remind me again why we need Casement where is is proposed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 26, 2022, 11:13:00 AM
The Casement project is out of Antrim's hands.

Its the Ulster Council who are managing the project and are mainly responsible for the mess which presently exists.

If the upcoming ruling goes against the Casement upgrade then Antrim will be left with no decent county ground thanks to the horseshite attitude of the Ulster Council
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on April 26, 2022, 11:13:00 AM
The Casement project is out of Antrim's hands.

Its the Ulster Council who are managing the project and are mainly responsible for the mess which presently exists.

If the upcoming ruling goes against the Casement upgrade then Antrim will be left with no decent county ground thanks to the horseshite attitude of the Ulster Council

Can we 'buy' it back if the case goes against it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 11:19:29 AM
Is the match being streamed tonight ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 26, 2022, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 11:19:29 AM
Is the match being streamed tonight ;)

Sure why don't you go down to it  would pass the evening
I'm sure you'll be welcome
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 26, 2022, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 11:19:29 AM
Is the match being streamed tonight ;)

Sure why don't you go down to it  would pass the evening
I'm sure you'll be welcome

I've walked into worse grounds on my own, sure its just banter  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 26, 2022, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 10:11:11 AM
Managers are mixing it up more nowadays. First it was all out attack, then all defensive...good managers are finding the balance between the two.

On every team I would have at least two defenders who are earmarked  to go toe to toe with a designated dangerman, and always have at least three all moving forwards who can provide quality long ball options.

You rarely see the three four five phase run anymore. All you see now is one or two straight line runs and give up if ball dosent come in. Not nearly enough.

Relying on one forward (Odhran) was never ever going to work. I'd have played Conor Murray on top of the keeper (as Cavan did with Paddy Clarke, starting runs from there) with Ryan playing off the brother, coming in from the right on his good foot. Surely these are the most basic things we are talking about.

Around the middle third we need 8 or 9 absolute workhorses, ability to do the required km, and fit to play the running game that suits us. Unfortunately we had two or three in this category who looked very uncomfortable in providing this function. Conor Stewarts first meaningful match all season, come on, that's just downright wrong.

With tweaking and some common sense management and players could regroup and have a lash, but if it hasn't been done to date, I fear it's not going to happen. If you can't see it in the first place how can you be expected to fix it.

Who could have matched and better their no.11? Christ I wouldn't have liked to have my picture taken beside him never mind marking him!! He showed for every ball and collected most of them. The ball also stuck when it went in, very rarely did they fumble or make those minor mistakes. direct running too.

The level was way above what we have encountered in the league. The physical side of things needs improving, hopefully its heads down over the winter and build on the strength and conditioning they have started. To be honest I wouldn't put much effort into this new competition
At this level and given he has been one of their talismen for 10-12 years now most setups would adapt their defensive structure to limit his influence and that of other key forwards. That is assuming you have a defensive structure. Its about numbers in the right areas, discipline, Trust, contesting and swarming when the opportunity arises, not contesting the uncontestable..........How you setup, communicate and what your triggers are come down to the strategy of the coaching setup assuming they have a stategy. Thank God he can't kick with his right foot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 26, 2022, 01:05:09 PM
If there was an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior, we'd be in Junior and it would be the best place for us. Tailteann is unrealistic for us as well unfortunately. Some decent early league performances don't mask the overall state we are still in. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 26, 2022, 01:23:39 PM
I hope McGinley gets the boot after that on Saturday wasn't worth the entrance fee
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 26, 2022, 01:36:07 PM
My God. I despair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 26, 2022, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 26, 2022, 01:23:39 PM
I hope McGinley gets the boot after that on Saturday wasn't worth the entrance fee

right, which one of you put 50p in the idiot?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing
You aren't from the same club, who do you think you are kidding??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:33:21 PM
Course I am not.........................

Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing
You aren't from the same club, who do you think you are kidding??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing

Its not uncommon for older players to lose their discipline, Mick has high standards that he sets himself and when he feels its going against him he'll let you know, I don't mind constructive 'chat' but when it gets personal or over the top you are walking a a fine line. Its very difficult to take a player like him off to be fair, you place a lot of responsibilities on his shoulders to and he'll have taken them on board also.

The second tackle was borderline yellow, but maybe just maybe because of the earlier yellow it gave the ref an opportunity to flash a second yellow, they are only human, keep the ref on board and you'll get the benefit of the 50/50 calls, start abusing them and the 50/50 calls could go more against you.

I don't know if the ref was that poor to be fair, he gave my clubman a yellow for the off the ball stuff, after Hurson and his umpires were chatting, I think it was the right call as he defo started it. Some softer fouls maybe and moving the ball in is for mouthing. He'd one mistake were he allowed a 'MARK' to be played on when it was called, the player hand passed the ball.. other than that I can't really see too many stand out wrongs, that's with my Antrim supporter head on.

When I got nearer the end of playing you are getting into more scrapes and mouthing, that's your body telling you to stop playing lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 26, 2022, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing

Its not uncommon for older players to lose their discipline, Mick has high standards that he sets himself and when he feels its going against him he'll let you know, I don't mind constructive 'chat' but when it gets personal or over the top you are walking a a fine line. Its very difficult to take a player like him off to be fair, you place a lot of responsibilities on his shoulders to and he'll have taken them on board also.

The second tackle was borderline yellow, but maybe just maybe because of the earlier yellow it gave the ref an opportunity to flash a second yellow, they are only human, keep the ref on board and you'll get the benefit of the 50/50 calls, start abusing them and the 50/50 calls could go more against you.

I don't know if the ref was that poor to be fair, he gave my clubman a yellow for the off the ball stuff, after Hurson and his umpires were chatting, I think it was the right call as he defo started it. Some softer fouls maybe and moving the ball in is for mouthing. He'd one mistake were he allowed a 'MARK' to be played on when it was called, the player hand passed the ball.. other than that I can't really see too many stand out wrongs, that's with my Antrim supporter head on.

When I got nearer the end of playing you are getting into more scrapes and mouthing, that's your body telling you to stop playing lol

You haven't changed much!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 26, 2022, 02:45:01 PM
I think the tactics cost us on Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 02:46:57 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 26, 2022, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 26, 2022, 02:03:44 PM
As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing

Its not uncommon for older players to lose their discipline, Mick has high standards that he sets himself and when he feels its going against him he'll let you know, I don't mind constructive 'chat' but when it gets personal or over the top you are walking a a fine line. Its very difficult to take a player like him off to be fair, you place a lot of responsibilities on his shoulders to and he'll have taken them on board also.

The second tackle was borderline yellow, but maybe just maybe because of the earlier yellow it gave the ref an opportunity to flash a second yellow, they are only human, keep the ref on board and you'll get the benefit of the 50/50 calls, start abusing them and the 50/50 calls could go more against you.

I don't know if the ref was that poor to be fair, he gave my clubman a yellow for the off the ball stuff, after Hurson and his umpires were chatting, I think it was the right call as he defo started it. Some softer fouls maybe and moving the ball in is for mouthing. He'd one mistake were he allowed a 'MARK' to be played on when it was called, the player hand passed the ball.. other than that I can't really see too many stand out wrongs, that's with my Antrim supporter head on.

When I got nearer the end of playing you are getting into more scrapes and mouthing, that's your body telling you to stop playing lol

You haven't changed much!!

I'm 50 now so its grump old fart period, you must be using HRT patches now to keep your moods together  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 26, 2022, 03:02:00 PM
Strange all the wisdom, tactical, awareness on this site...
Must be from Milltown......all those titles secured...

Bye, bye, Mc Ginley, O'Neill, and Kelly and take your All Ireland medals with you....experience and know how aplenty here...
Hands up volunteers.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 26, 2022, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 26, 2022, 01:36:07 PM
My God. I despair
NSS outside of RC I don't think anyone would have been backing an Antim win.

Expectation would have been good performance, Management getting a tune out of the team and fall a bit short.

Cavan a decent side 2 out of the last 3 Ulster finals winning 1.

The disappointment for most was not the defeat but the absence of just about anything.

Can you give 2-3 positive aspects of the performance where you could say there has been a Good bit of work put into that, there is something to build on etc

Not an individual piece of skill, A Ryan Murray play, A Paddy McAleer catch, The Goalkeeper etc

Something with the Management or coaching teams fingerprints on it where you could say that's working well or thats shaping up well.

Most people are struggling to see any of the very basics you would expect. Yes we are a work in progress but at this point you would expect to see the shoots of the management teams stamp/philosophy on the team.

Appreciate that the guys have with the players put in a lot of time & effort but surely that is all the more reason to have some expectations.

Look forward to your positives....At this point even 1 would do

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 04:04:42 PM
Can't use the word experience in this context. Harte/Devlin equal experience. Unfortunately our trio have no managerial experience, of real consequence. Don't think anyone can even debate this!

The hope was they could collate their many many successful forays and experiences in the pitch, and bring the same mindset or psychological edge, know how, cuteness, tricks of the trade, respect from peer player to recently retired peer, all of that. That had to be worth a punt. I personally backed it at the time, got a great feeling this was a great appointment.

But there's a need to be honest. Sadly, I don't see any progress. As someone who has missed one match only in two full years, including Mc Kenna Cup, home and away, I am far from convinced. Too many basics missing for me. The three last second hail Mary's that got us out if jail last year unfortunately has served only to paper over the cracks.

All we ask is for whoever is managing the team to get the basics right and have players playing out of their skins - and they will find the vast majority of us on here quite forgiving. We know we are div 3 standard, and div 2 would be unforgiving. But that kind of performance was nothing short of a national embarrassment on Saturday past. It was in all probability the worst Antrim championship performance I have ever seen.

And I don't give one flying fiddler's who that offends. That's how cross I still feel about it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 26, 2022, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 26, 2022, 03:02:00 PM
Strange all the wisdom, tactical, awareness on this site...
Must be from Milltown......all those titles secured...

Bye, bye, Mc Ginley, O'Neill, and Kelly and take your All Ireland medals with you....experience and know how aplenty here...
Hands up volunteers.....
They've only got out of a crap d4 not much done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 04:04:42 PM
Can't use the word experience in this context. Harte/Devlin equal experience. Unfortunately our trio have no managerial experience, of real consequence. Don't think anyone can even debate this!

The hope was they could collate their many many successful forays and experiences in the pitch, and bring the same mindset or psychological edge, know how, cuteness, tricks of the trade, respect from peer player to recently retired peer, all of that. That had to be worth a punt. I personally backed it at the time, got a great feeling this was a great appointment.

But there's a need to be honest. Sadly, I don't see any progress. As someone who has missed one match only in two full years, including Mc Kenna Cup, home and away, I am far from convinced. Too many basics missing for me. The three last second hail Mary's that got us out if jail last year unfortunately has served only to paper over the cracks.

All we ask is for whoever is managing the team to get the basics right and have players playing out of their skins - and they will find the vast majority of us on here quite forgiving. We know we are div 3 standard, and div 2 would be unforgiving. But that kind of performance was nothing short of a national embarrassment on Saturday past. It was in all probability the worst Antrim championship performance I have ever seen.

And I don't give one flying fiddler's who that offends. That's how cross I still feel about it!

The match aside and all that Bannside, we have done better than what the long suffering Antrim supporter has endured for many a year and that is potential, the potential to learn at a higher level than we have done, the potential to blood new players or bring other players back into the fold, the potential of a better performance in the Championship..

Feeling sore is ok, we defo didn't get it right on the day, my only gripe is we managed to get within touching distance by playing 15 on 15 for final 10 minutes pressed higher and had more turnovers which gave us more scores and a gilt edge chance to take the lead at half time when we spurned a goal opportunity... Had we went at them again who knows we still could have lost by 13 but at least they would have had a go at them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
I get that MR, this gives me no pleasure at all, we all hoped for better. Every team can have a bad day too, I get that as well. However I just don't see progress on the field of play. I don't see a good defensive system - holes everywhere, people chasing shadows,  I see nothing to like in our forward play, players out of position, poor fitness....the list goes on.

Look, let's be very honest here. Lennys Antrim two years ago would have put up a better performance. And lets remember, that was against a team that WON Ulster.

Take all the emotion of of this, the family connections, the experience or lack of it, the fact management were all undisputed class acts on the pitch, and ask yourself a question.

If this was Jody or Frank Dawson or anyone of about half a dozen other managers there would be an almighty kick up. Yes or No?

Question is - can the combined management and squad kick on again, find their mojo? Hey maybe they can, but big changes are needed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 26, 2022, 05:28:00 PM
Seems a few within are bitterly disappointed on Saturday shit show.
But look inside and consider why we have reason to have been positive..

Have we a thriving club scene....NO
We're there individuals who did not agree to join the panel..Yes
Can we name any I individual who would have made a difference.....No

My old friend Oliver Kelly RIP told me once "lose the fundamental, lose the argument".

If I have answered the above correctly we do not have the right to expect championship success....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
I get that MR, this gives me no pleasure at all, we all hoped for better. Every team can have a bad day too, I get that as well. However I just don't see progress on the field of play. I don't see a good defensive system - holes everywhere, people chasing shadows,  I see nothing to like in our forward play, players out of position, poor fitness....the list goes on.

Look, let's be very honest here. Lennys Antrim two years ago would have put up a better performance. And lets remember, that was against a team that WON Ulster.

Take all the emotion of of this, the family connections, the experience or lack of it, the fact management were all undisputed class acts on the pitch, and ask yourself a question.

If this was Jody or Frank Dawson or anyone of about half a dozen other managers there would be an almighty kick up. Yes or No?

Question is - can the combined management and squad kick on again, find their mojo? Hey maybe they can, but big changes are needed.

Look we all know if it was someone else managing them the thread would be bouncing with posts of "get them out" but obviously that's not going to happen and refreshing to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 05:40:30 PM
You know what, I'm not calling for their heads either!

Management is a journey, but it can be a steep one. Lessons do need to be learned though. With some hard thinking and surgery further progress could indeed be made. I have made my opinion clear, happy to dial down the rhetoric and let things take their course.

As long everyone is on the level here that's ok, let's call a spade a spade and not a digging implement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 26, 2022, 05:50:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 26, 2022, 05:28:00 PM
Seems a few within are bitterly disappointed on Saturday shit show.
But look inside and consider why we have reason to have been positive..

Have we a thriving club scene....NO
We're there individuals who did not agree to join the panel..Yes
Can we name any I individual who would have made a difference.....No

My old friend Oliver Kelly RIP told me once "lose the fundamental, lose the argument".

If I have answered the above correctly we do not have the right to expect championship success....

CB after 2 years should the expectation not be higher than a sh*r show (your words)
Management & coaching a team is about the collective, getting greater than the sum of the parts. Yes individuals within that certainly help. Maximise what you have, improve what you have. That was serious negative territory

If that level of organisation, team structure and shambles was served up to the green army come first round knockout stage of the championship how would it be received and what would the outcome be

It would get the same outcome in any half decent club irrespective of whether they were championship contenders or not. The expectation would be they would at least bring a reasonable level of performance whatever their ability and limitations. That's all anyone can ask for
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
I get that MR, this gives me no pleasure at all, we all hoped for better. Every team can have a bad day too, I get that as well. However I just don't see progress on the field of play. I don't see a good defensive system - holes everywhere, people chasing shadows,  I see nothing to like in our forward play, players out of position, poor fitness....the list goes on.

Look, let's be very honest here. Lennys Antrim two years ago would have put up a better performance. And lets remember, that was against a team that WON Ulster.

Take all the emotion of of this, the family connections, the experience or lack of it, the fact management were all undisputed class acts on the pitch, and ask yourself a question.

If this was Jody or Frank Dawson or anyone of about half a dozen other managers there would be an almighty kick up. Yes or No?

Question is - can the combined management and squad kick on again, find their mojo? Hey maybe they can, but big changes are needed.
I'd love to see Lenny back for one year, just to hear what you say in the aftermath, Jesus this is tragic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 06:01:11 PM
CB I don't see any of this as an argument! I said before I wish we weren't having this conversation even. Look if we had played with real character and lost by two or three points in Saturday we still wouldn't be having this conversation.

As I say I'm happy to let it go now, not out to persecute any individual, management or player, no one set out to achieve that. However, can others please reciprocate by stop trying to defend the indefensible!

Plus, I do know, if it was a city manager producing this dross - you would be at the very front of the queue with your remonstrations. Please don't ask me to dig through the archives!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
Some people poor memories. After Lenny's Antrim demolished Limerick by 14 points we all thought promotion was won, momentum was with us, and Covid kicked in.

Some counties obeyed the rules, Wicklow didn't, and our chance was gone.. the same Limerick that ranked us this year.

EOC dosent see this because he dosent want to.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
Some people poor memories. After Lenny's Antrim demolished Limerick by 14 points we all thought promotion was won, momentum was with us, and Covid kicked in.

Some counties obeyed the rules, Wicklow didn't, and our chance was gone.. the same Limerick that ranked us this year.

EOC dosent see this because he dosent want to.
You are happy to blame covid for Lenny not getting promoted but on the other hand claiming some kind of kudos for him running Cavan relatively close (4point defeat Cavan could of won by more) in a November covid year championship laced with freak results that Cavan went on and won.
You brought him up, I didn't. Don't forget the current managers achieved more than he has. By the way I was also there on Saturday and was disgusted by the performance myself. But I am balanced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 06:24:45 PM
Perfectly balanced with a chip on each shoulder   :P
I jest of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 06:31:28 PM
Did the Casement ruling take place today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 26, 2022, 06:31:59 PM
Quote from: Flanker on April 26, 2022, 05:50:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 26, 2022, 05:28:00 PM
Seems a few within are bitterly disappointed on Saturday shit show.
But look inside and consider why we have reason to have been positive..

Have we a thriving club scene....NO
We're there individuals who did not agree to join the panel..Yes
Can we name any I individual who would have made a difference.....No

My old friend Oliver Kelly RIP told me once "lose the fundamental, lose the argument".

If I have answered the above correctly we do not have the right to expect championship success....

CB after 2 years should the expectation not be higher than a sh*r show (your words)
Management & coaching a team is about the collective, getting greater than the sum of the parts. Yes individuals within that certainly help. Maximise what you have, improve what you have. That was serious negative territory

If that level of organisation, team structure and shambles was served up to the green army come first round knockout stage of the championship how would it be received and what would the outcome be

It would get the same outcome in any half decent club irrespective of whether they were championship contenders or not. The expectation would be they would at least bring a reasonable level of performance whatever their ability and limitations. That's all anyone can ask for

Why.......we are what we are and look around u at the quality of the teams in our county with the exception if a few.

Some may expect, but in the real world only a few within our ranks can contemplate senior championship success..
Then look at the contenders for such in Tyrone or Derry.

We are a long way behind and can u see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 06:40:37 PM
Are we talking county or club success here? I get confused  ;D... speaking to Davitt's ones . They ain't happy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 26, 2022, 08:31:59 PM
The poster who singled out davitts for criticism should head down there for a pint I'm sure they d be glad to see him  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 08:43:26 PM
Cargin beating Ports by two tonight...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2022, 10:19:53 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2022, 06:31:28 PM
Did the Casement ruling take place today?

Still ongoing, back in court tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2022, 10:51:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2022, 08:43:26 PM
Cargin beating Ports by two tonight...




Was anyone at that game tonight, never got heard it was a decent game of football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
Decent game without any rancour or edge. Both teams not giving much away methinks, Cargin a bit more composure where it mattered. Good two points for them on the road.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 27, 2022, 08:50:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
Decent game without any rancour or edge. Both teams not giving much away methinks, Cargin a bit more composure where it mattered. Good two points for them on the road.
Just a league game in April BS, the two rather fortuitous goals may have flattered you a little on the score line but it was a competitive game. Portglenone noticibly well organised and a few weeks ahead fitness wise. Cargin will just keep tipping away and try and peak at the right time.
St. John's creggan could be a good game tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Seemed to be teams at near full strength also, Bar big Pat and NMcK, was there any other Championship players not playing last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 27, 2022, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Seemed to be teams at near full strength also, Bar big Pat and NMcK, was there any other Championship players not playing last night?

Cargin missing Tomas Mc Cann (their main forward) Pat Shivers & Mark Kelly. Casements Big Naill, no others who would make a difference. That was a set back for Casements. They have to beat Creggan & Cargin in the league to get some genuine belief that they can do it in championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 27, 2022, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Seemed to be teams at near full strength also, Bar big Pat and NMcK, was there any other Championship players not playing last night?

Cargin missing Tomas Mc Cann (their main forward) Pat Shivers & Mark Kelly. Casements Big Naill, no others who would make a difference. That was a set back for Casements. They have to beat Creggan & Cargin in the league to get some genuine belief that they can do it in championship.

So Tomas must have been injured when he came off on Sat at Corrigan.. Was expecting a Casements win considering the effort they have put in this year to date, but only a few months in for both managers and the big test is Championship.

Not liking the group stages tbh.. much prefer the straight knockout draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 27, 2022, 10:01:13 AM
The group stages are important if you have not access to your county players for the vast majority of the season. However I understand exactly your point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 27, 2022, 10:37:42 AM
Exactly EOC. Both teams keeping a few yards up their sleeve, Casements happy enough where they're at for the time of year, league is for blending in players and getting systems in place. Bigger days ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 27, 2022, 11:33:40 AM
Semi final of the Ulster Minor championship v Tyrone is listed with us at home, though venue tbc. That group deserves a big support on the 7th May. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 27, 2022, 11:38:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on April 27, 2022, 09:17:49 AM



T mccann away with work commitments not injured
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Seemed to be teams at near full strength also, Bar big Pat and NMcK, was there any other Championship players not playing last night?

Cargin missing Tomas Mc Cann (their main forward) Pat Shivers & Mark Kelly. Casements Big Naill, no others who would make a difference. That was a set back for Casements. They have to beat Creggan & Cargin in the league to get some genuine belief that they can do it in championship.

So Tomas must have been injured when he came off on Sat at Corrigan.. Was expecting a Casements win considering the effort they have put in this year to date, but only a few months in for both managers and the big test is Championship.

Not liking the group stages tbh.. much prefer the straight knockout draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 27, 2022, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 27, 2022, 11:33:40 AM
Semi final of the Ulster Minor championship v Tyrone is listed with us at home, though venue tbc. That group deserves a big support on the 7th May.

on ulster website as corrigan at 6pm saturday 7th May.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 02:00:37 PM
I do hear what BS saying  but I do think and believe hosting big Eddie Fitz trophy was, and am sure remains an objective...
Defeat at home last night was a wound inflicted...(No death rattle as yet).

Jeez my nephew is not at all pleased with me..

Cargin did introduce a Mc Crory cup winner and a future senior regular, Tom Shivers last night and a long list of 18 year olds following.

Mick Mc Cann underlined just how good he is last night, pulling the strings in game management when we nicked a three point advantage.

Am sure BS and RC in particular will view this remark in scorn but although both Casement's goals were well finished the Lady called Luck played a significant role in both...?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 02:15:32 PM
Am Clooney bound tonight....a most significant fixture with the points at a premium for both......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 27, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
Surely CB. Youse came with half a team (missing Tomas Mark & Pat) and a bunch of youngsters and played a full strength PG1, with Mick toying with us, and Casements two lucky goals just about keeping us in it.

That's a fair enough assessment....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 27, 2022, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 27, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
Surely CB. Youse came with half a team (missing Tomas Mark & Pat) and a bunch of youngsters and played a full strength PG1, with Mick toying with us, and Casements two lucky goals just about keeping us in it.

That's a fair enough assessment....

And so the mind games begin. Wonder who'll end up being Fergie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 02:53:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 27, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
Surely CB. Youse came with half a team (missing Tomas Mark & Pat) and a bunch of youngsters and played a full strength PG1, with Mick toying with us, and Casements two lucky goals just about keeping us in it.

That's a fair enough assessment....

An even fairer assessment would be to just have Creggan and Cargin in the final after last nights game ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 27, 2022, 03:22:42 PM
That can't happen, as with last year Creggan, Cargin, on same side of the draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2022, 04:00:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 27, 2022, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 27, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
Surely CB. Youse came with half a team (missing Tomas Mark & Pat) and a bunch of youngsters and played a full strength PG1, with Mick toying with us, and Casements two lucky goals just about keeping us in it.

That's a fair enough assessment....

And so the mind games begin. Wonder who'll end up being Fergie

And who is Kevin Keegan  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 27, 2022, 04:04:58 PM
Does Kelly start in a full strength Cargin team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 27, 2022, 04:04:58 PM
Does Kelly start in a full strength Cargin team?
What is a 'full strength' Cargin team NSS.....?

Could you name it....I could not...


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 27, 2022, 06:02:04 PM
LOL ITG.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 27, 2022, 06:51:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2022, 04:00:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 27, 2022, 02:50:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 27, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
Surely CB. Youse came with half a team (missing Tomas Mark & Pat) and a bunch of youngsters and played a full strength PG1, with Mick toying with us, and Casements two lucky goals just about keeping us in it.

That's a fair enough assessment....

And so the mind games begin. Wonder who'll end up being Fergie

And who is Kevin Keegan  ;D

I'd love it if it was bannside, love it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 27, 2022, 09:14:17 PM
April lads, relax.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 02:15:32 PM
Am Clooney bound tonight....a most significant fixture with the points at a premium for both......

How'd that go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2022, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 02:15:32 PM
Am Clooney bound tonight....a most significant fixture with the points at a premium for both......

How'd that go?

Galls by 2 I believe. Tough spot to go to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2022, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2022, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 02:15:32 PM
Am Clooney bound tonight....a most significant fixture with the points at a premium for both......

How'd that go?

Galls by 2 I believe. Tough spot to go to

As Ports know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 27, 2022, 10:01:12 PM
Gorts beat Aghagallon!! :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 27, 2022, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 27, 2022, 10:01:12 PM
Gorts beat Aghagallon!! :o





An incredible result that given how poor Gorts have been thus far, fair play to them for sticking in and giving it a go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2022, 10:35:17 PM
No word of Creggan johnnies game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2022, 11:48:07 PM
Results slow going up on website. I blame the refs 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 28, 2022, 07:38:53 AM
Creggan won by 3 on their Twitter feed. Took a race up to see Ahoghill v St Galls, decent game, not much between them. I continue to be impressed by Conall Mc Girr.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2022, 07:38:53 AM
Creggan won by 3 on their Twitter feed. Took a race up to see Ahoghill v St Galls, decent game, not much between them. I continue to be impressed by Conall Mc Girr.

The johnnies would have a few to come on to that team, both McCanns out for Creggan also I'd assume. Teams still shadow boxing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 28, 2022, 07:54:21 AM
Aye early days, you just need to be ticking over quietly at this stage, make sure you're safe, try out a few players. Bigger tests await.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 07:58:21 AM
Watched/covered the Ahoghill Galls affair, and little between them with a late goal nudging the Milltown men over the winning line.
Ahoghill missed a lot of chances in the first half in particular which cost them.

St Gall's, having a huge panel, (three adult teams) look to have a ways to travel if they are to regain former greatness  imo.

Ahoghill had a lot missing in that one and will ask questions of most if they field at strength....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 28, 2022, 08:02:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2022, 07:54:21 AM
Aye early days, you just need to be ticking over quietly at this stage, make sure you're safe, try out a few players. Bigger tests await.
Most teams do the above, others go full pelt at it early, then run out of gas at the business end. Think St Galls showed the blueprint of how to do it in the noughties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2022, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2022, 07:38:53 AM
Creggan won by 3 on their Twitter feed. Took a race up to see Ahoghill v St Galls, decent game, not much between them. I continue to be impressed by Conall Mc Girr.

The johnnies would have a few to come on to that team, both McCanns out for Creggan also I'd assume. Teams still shadow boxing

What about Conor Small and Liam Quinn... are they about this year? The two of them have had a lot of promise but seem to have had a very bad run with injuries.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 10:41:38 AM
Had a word with C Small a few weeks back and he is talking about a return about championship time....no idea about L Q....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 28, 2022, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 27, 2022, 04:04:58 PM
Does Kelly start in a full strength Cargin team?
What is a 'full strength' Cargin team NSS.....?

Could you name it....I could not...

I could not CB, but I just meant that if all your usual forwards (and the emerging talents of the 2 or 3 schools players/ County U20's) would he be classed as a starter? Kelly is a good player from what i've seen of him, don't get me wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on April 28, 2022, 10:57:36 AM
I love all this, its only April, shadow boxing stuff from teams who haven't won a championship or other teams who haven't a chance on winning it. I suppose they have they have o keep their spirits up some way. Mind games eh lol. The championship is a two horse race between Creggan & Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 28, 2022, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2022, 11:48:07 PM
Results slow going up on website. I blame the refs 😉

Still no sign?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2022, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 10:41:38 AM
Had a word with C Small a few weeks back and he is talking about a return about championship time....no idea about L Q....

That's good at least one of them are back. Those boys seem to have been injured a lot and it would be great to see them at it and see what they're capable of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 28, 2022, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 27, 2022, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 27, 2022, 04:04:58 PM
Does Kelly start in a full strength Cargin team?
What is a 'full strength' Cargin team NSS.....?

Could you name it....I could not...

I could not CB, but I just meant that if all your usual forwards (and the emerging talents of the 2 or 3 schools players/ County U20's) would he be classed as a starter? Kelly is a good player from what i've seen of him, don't get me wrong.

Was not being cheeky or trying to be funny but we are lucky enough the have a good supply of emerging talent.
Agree big Mark is a strong contender but young lads like Tom Shivers, Benen Kelly, Eunan Quinn, Paudie Mc Laughlin, PJ Quinn are all contenders.

Conhuir Johnston is a very special footballer, but not available this year only 17, and more than a few youngsters catching the eye in minor and under 15....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2022, 11:20:03 AM
CB has something changed in your underage setup in the last half a dozen years or so? You seemed to have a very dry spell where a lot of teams were in B competitions(a while back now) but seem to be dominating now. Anything specific change to make that happen?

(I don't know the exact timeline on it but you seemed to be dropping off for a bit then next thing winning minor titles and producing county standard footballers all round)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 28, 2022, 11:22:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2022, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 28, 2022, 07:38:53 AM
Creggan won by 3 on their Twitter feed. Took a race up to see Ahoghill v St Galls, decent game, not much between them. I continue to be impressed by Conall Mc Girr.

The johnnies would have a few to come on to that team, both McCanns out for Creggan also I'd assume. Teams still shadow boxing

What about Conor Small and Liam Quinn... are they about this year? The two of them have had a lot of promise but seem to have had a very bad run with injuries.
No kidology involved here when I say this, Creggan wont be easy worked with if those two were fully fit and slotted into the team they had last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 28, 2022, 11:29:49 AM
Cargin have a good underage coaching setup as last 10 years. McCann brothers, huggy, Butcher, Frog, Kobo all good men driving them on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 28, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀

Aldergrove Moneyglass got spicy towards the end goo
Ref had it all under control though !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on April 28, 2022, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2022, 11:20:03 AM
CB has something changed in your underage setup in the last half a dozen years or so? You seemed to have a very dry spell where a lot of teams were in B competitions(a while back now) but seem to be dominating now. Anything specific change to make that happen?

(I don't know the exact timeline on it but you seemed to be dropping off for a bit then next thing winning minor titles and producing county standard footballers all round)

The main reason we went through a spell of playing in lower League and B competitions was we had low number for example our minor team would be mostly our u16 team.

That has changed a bit the last 6 to 8 years and when we have good numbers we tend to do well.

I have been told we have 40 plus u7 boys so let's see how that turns out in 10 years or so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 12:38:22 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀
But am sure Anto was there....


Read match report....so reports wrong..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 28, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀

Aldergrove Moneyglass got spicy towards the end goo
Ref had it all under control though !!

Boys just wanted to get to know each other better, swapping shirts and hugging, whispering sweet nothings into each others ears
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:14:33 PM
Just reading our report on the SG, whoever wrote it up must have been hoping for a draw lol.. has it down as 1-12 to 1-12  ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 04:26:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:14:33 PM
Just reading our report on the SG, whoever wrote it up must have been hoping for a draw lol.. has it down as 1-12 to 1-12  ;D
Not good enough.....demand your money back.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 28, 2022, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀

Yes, it was rough the whole way through the game.

I think the ref was to blame though for letting it get out of hand.

Lynch should have went in the first half for two punches on different players but for some reason the ref didn't seem to want to send him off.......not sure why he would be treated differently than anyone else.....

Then it went on like that for the rest of the game.

TNN should have won, hit the post in last few mins of first half which would have put us 6 points ahead at the break but going down to 14 cost us.

The two tackles that got our man sent off were very soft (smallest player on the pitch and still in school so not exactly much impact in the tackles!), nowhere near like other tackles that went unpunished.

Even against 14 LD played 13 men behind the ball which i was surprised by.

You would think with their reputation as one of the top teams in the county they'd be coming up to us thinking it was an easy win.

Boiled over at the end as LD got awarded a few frees which Ryan Murray pointed to bring it to a draw. He had a big impact when he came on, think he got the last 4 points of the game.

Then when our keeper kicked it out, the ref blew the whistle which the LD players took issue with as they thought there should have been more than the 5 minutes injury time that was already played.

So a few shook hands, a couple went for the ref and the rest just piled in on each other!

Great stuff to watch!!

The SG might describe the game differently though  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 28, 2022, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:14:33 PM
Just reading our report on the SG, whoever wrote it up must have been hoping for a draw lol.. has it down as 1-12 to 1-12  ;D

I see Dualtach Johnston is lining out for St Galls now too. Quite a surprise!

That lad played in the Galls v Cargin u20 game last year....
Good young player....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 28, 2022, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM




Interesting about Lynch alright Ref mcCot turn a blind eye 👁

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 06:31:57 PM
A right hardy buck he was too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 28, 2022, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 28, 2022, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:14:33 PM
Just reading our report on the SG, whoever wrote it up must have been hoping for a draw lol.. has it down as 1-12 to 1-12  ;D

I see Dualtach Johnston is lining out for St Galls now too. Quite a surprise!

That lad played in the Galls v Cargin u20 game last year....
Good young player....

Nope. That would definitely be Dubhaltach Wilson.

Dualtach Johnston is an entirely different player, from a different generation, and much closer to home for you. I believe.
My mistake poor translation....Mac Liam mixed up with Mac Sean.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 06:42:36 PM
Everyone can make a mistake even the top Antrim Refs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 08:21:08 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 06:42:36 PM
Everyone can make a mistake even the top Antrim Refs

Between writing the scores down wrong on SG and getting names mixed up I'm worried
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 08:27:55 PM
We all make mistakes. Some more costly than others
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 08:27:55 PM
We all make mistakes. Some more costly than others

Good to see people understand that and move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 28, 2022, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀

Yes, it was rough the whole way through the game.

I think the ref was to blame though for letting it get out of hand.

Lynch should have went in the first half for two punches on different players but for some reason the ref didn't seem to want to send him off.......not sure why he would be treated differently than anyone else.....

Then it went on like that for the rest of the game.

TNN should have won, hit the post in last few mins of first half which would have put us 6 points ahead at the break but going down to 14 cost us.

The two tackles that got our man sent off were very soft (smallest player on the pitch and still in school so not exactly much impact in the tackles!), nowhere near like other tackles that went unpunished.

Even against 14 LD played 13 men behind the ball which i was surprised by.

You would think with their reputation as one of the top teams in the county they'd be coming up to us thinking it was an easy win.

Boiled over at the end as LD got awarded a few frees which Ryan Murray pointed to bring it to a draw. He had a big impact when he came on, think he got the last 4 points of the game.

Then when our keeper kicked it out, the ref blew the whistle which the LD players took issue with as they thought there should have been more than the 5 minutes injury time that was already played.

So a few shook hands, a couple went for the ref and the rest just piled in on each other!

Great stuff to watch!!

The SG might describe the game differently though  ;D

So he instigated it by not booking someone earlier? Or maybe players will just box the head off themselves because they want to?

Players take things way too personal in football, looking for 'revenge' or ganching at each other,  or yehooing a score or a wide

Play football and don't get involved, 2 senior hurling games done already and not one bitta hassle, I've had two free for alls in football plenty yellows also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 09:29:15 PM
I do not know which pope decreed all referees as infallible surely did not mean all those residing in our wee county.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 28, 2022, 09:29:15 PM
I do not know which pope decreed all referees as infallible surely did not mean all those residing in our wee county.....??

Who said that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 29, 2022, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.
Would like to think striking was red card
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 29, 2022, 10:01:38 AM
I do not doubt your version of events Barnish, however one part I am struggling with is that someone as cowardly as Lynch would have the b*lls to strike someone twice

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 29, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 29, 2022, 10:01:38 AM
I do not doubt your version of events Barnish, however one part I am struggling with is that someone as cowardly as Lynch would have the b*lls to strike someone twice

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.


Bit harsh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 29, 2022, 10:01:38 AM
I do not doubt your version of events Barnish, however one part I am struggling with is that someone as cowardly as Lynch would have the b*lls to strike someone twice

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Well he hit 2 different players so maybe he was in a bad mood!!

And continued with off the ball incidents a few times afterwards which, even though he was on a yellow, went unpunished.

But not to dwell on that side of things anymore, it was a tense game to watch and other than Ryan Murray coming on to show his class, it was good to see us being a match for LD, especially considering we were easily 6 players down from the starting lineup that won the intermediate last year.

Although I appreciate that it is the league and LD come Championship time may be a different animal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Did he book him for striking the first time? or did he see it the way you seen it? I wasn't there so can't actually comment on that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 29, 2022, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Did he book him for striking the first time? or did he see it the way you seen it? I wasn't there so can't actually comment on that

Fair point, you can strike as many times as you want if the referee doesn't see it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 29, 2022, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Did he book him for striking the first time? or did he see it the way you seen it? I wasn't there so can't actually comment on that

Fair point, you can strike as many times as you want if the referee doesn't see it

You can't un-see a punch in the bake, if lads are wrestling on the ground its get up and yellow card them and move on, if they are standing toe to toe boxing style then off they go, what makes a player run in and 'try and separate' two players? let them at it, they'll get dealt with, the buck eejits running in cause more hassle and it escalates later also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on April 29, 2022, 01:48:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 29, 2022, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 29, 2022, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Did he book him for striking the first time? or did he see it the way you seen it? I wasn't there so can't actually comment on that

Fair point, you can strike as many times as you want if the referee doesn't see it

You can't un-see a punch in the bake, if lads are wrestling on the ground its get up and yellow card them and move on, if they are standing toe to toe boxing style then off they go, what makes a player run in and 'try and separate' two players? let them at it, they'll get dealt with, the buck eejits running in cause more hassle and it escalates later also

Here Here!!!!! Let them at it!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 29, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
For those theatrical Antrim supporters with short memories - Games won in the Ulster championship in the last decade (2012-now)

Donegal 28
Monaghan 16
Tyrone 12
Cavan 9
Down 7
Armagh 4
Fermanagh 4
Derry 1
Antrim 1

Courtesy of Cahair O'Kane.

When does Gaelfast kick in?  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2022, 02:55:03 PM
Donegal have won 16 more than Tyrone is the biggest shock to me!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2022, 02:58:16 PM
Think we'll have to look at the Derry and Armagh schools to help us get further up that table  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 29, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
fortunately, or unfortunately for derry schools, they are helping out too many non-derry club sides.  you could argue they have been unlucky with their championship draws.  Antrim however......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 29, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Spike that's a horrible stat alright, but don't let's get lost in the detail. Since 1980 I make it we have only won about 5 championship games (not inc qualifiers).

Cavan 81. Down 2000. Cavan 2003. Donegal 09. Cavan 09. Fermanagh away under Fitzy I think.

There's 3 Cavans in there. Plus our excellent effort against them in Breffni two years ago that just fell short.

We had a great record against them, totally in contrast to our record against other counties. This was the first year we had played in a more competitive league. We were at home.

So without sounding too theatrical I make no apology for saying we badly fluffed our lines at Corrigan...and the talking point wasn't just the defeat, but the manner of it. Not wishing to rehash....but context is important when rolling out statistics.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2022, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 29, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
For those theatrical Antrim supporters with short memories - Games won in the Ulster championship in the last decade (2012-now)

Donegal 28
Monaghan 16
Tyrone 12
Cavan 9
Down 7
Armagh 4
Fermanagh 4
Derry 1
Antrim 1

Courtesy of Cahair O'Kane.

When does Gaelfast kick in?  :D
debates on Gaelfast not welcome on this site . I'd still like to see what the plan is for it but it's seems No be non existent or secret squirrel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 29, 2022, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2022, 02:55:03 PM
Donegal have won 16 more than Tyrone is the biggest shock to me!

I think Donegal have  4 Ulster Titles and Tyrone 3 in that time ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 01, 2022, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 29, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Spike that's a horrible stat alright, but don't let's get lost in the detail. Since 1980 I make it we have only won about 5 championship games (not inc qualifiers).

Cavan 81. Down 2000. Cavan 2003. Donegal 09. Cavan 09. Fermanagh away under Fitzy I think.

There's 3 Cavans in there. Plus our excellent effort against them in Breffni two years ago that just fell short.

We had a great record against them, totally in contrast to our record against other counties. This was the first year we had played in a more competitive league. We were at home.

So without sounding too theatrical I make no apology for saying we badly fluffed our lines at Corrigan...and the talking point wasn't just the defeat, but the manner of it. Not wishing to rehash....but context is important when rolling out statistics.


3 wins against cavan in 41 years is your shut down of that horrible stat and why we should have won this year?  We're in bigger trouble here than I thought if that is our reasoning.      Time for realism on here and ending of the hysterics.     Bread and butter issues need addressed which is why we need to get into the detail of things like gaelfast and is it working for us. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2022, 12:52:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 01, 2022, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 29, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Spike that's a horrible stat alright, but don't let's get lost in the detail. Since 1980 I make it we have only won about 5 championship games (not inc qualifiers).

Cavan 81. Down 2000. Cavan 2003. Donegal 09. Cavan 09. Fermanagh away under Fitzy I think.

There's 3 Cavans in there. Plus our excellent effort against them in Breffni two years ago that just fell short.

We had a great record against them, totally in contrast to our record against other counties. This was the first year we had played in a more competitive league. We were at home.

So without sounding too theatrical I make no apology for saying we badly fluffed our lines at Corrigan...and the talking point wasn't just the defeat, but the manner of it. Not wishing to rehash....but context is important when rolling out statistics.


3 wins against cavan in 41 years is your shut down of that horrible stat and why we should have won this year?  We're in bigger trouble here than I thought if that is our reasoning.      Time for realism on here and ending of the hysterics.     Bread and butter issues need addressed which is why we need to get into the detail of things like gaelfast and is it working for us.

You know Gaelfast is aimed at primary level kids and coaching teachers at schools to be able to coach. Not see any if at all till those kids hit minor/senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 01, 2022, 01:07:57 PM
It wasn't intended as a shut down Spike - sorry if it came across that way. We have a mountain to climb even to get anywhere near the top ten or twelve counties, thats without any doubt.

A well organised Gaelfast can play a significant role in this, it's one component of many that are needed. There are many others as we all know. Going to take a lot of work by a lot of people, and even with that, could take a decade at least.

In the meantime positive performances by the seniors would at least raise the morale and provide a shop window for aspiring youngsters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 01, 2022, 03:45:20 PM
Fair enough BS,  the sooner we can make inroads on the foundations, the better.  Collectively we need to be all at it within our clubs and getting boys and girls passionate to play for the county.  Some club structures are great, others not so.  We won't find the superstars if a minority are supplying the talent.    Rising tide lifts all.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 01, 2022, 05:47:35 PM
A poor display from the All Ireland champs today....
Will heads have to roll or can any team have an off day..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 01, 2022, 06:23:02 PM
Remember where you heard the Derry tip.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 01, 2022, 07:08:10 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 01, 2022, 06:23:02 PM
Remember where you heard the Derry tip.

Do remember but unfortunately did not bite....RC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2022, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 01, 2022, 05:47:35 PM
A poor display from the All Ireland champs today....
Will heads have to roll or can any team have an off day..?

They were shite and if you look at my predictions on the predictions thread I had Derry to win, some people know football others talk shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 02, 2022, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: Spike on April 29, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
For those theatrical Antrim supporters with short memories - Games won in the Ulster championship in the last decade (2012-now)

Donegal 28
Monaghan 16
Tyrone 12
Cavan 9
Down 7
Armagh 4
Fermanagh 4
Derry 2
Antrim 1

Courtesy of Cahair O'Kane.

When does Gaelfast kick in?  :D

Had to update above  take the bad look off it for us  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2022, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 29, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
For those theatrical Antrim supporters with short memories - Games won in the Ulster championship in the last decade (2012-now)

Donegal 28
Monaghan 16
Tyrone 12
Cavan 9
Down 7
Armagh 4
Fermanagh 4
Derry 1
Antrim 1

Courtesy of Cahair O'Kane.

When does Gaelfast kick in?  :D
debates on Gaelfast not welcome on this site . I'd still like to see what the plan is for it but it's seems No be non existent or secret squirrel

Dont really understand what your beef is with Gaelfast. They work primarily with Primary school children, and are in existence less than 4 years so how could they have influenced the number of senior championships wins our senior county footballers have had in the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2022, 12:34:29 PM
100% improvement Hoof. In fairness that was some performance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 02, 2022, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2022, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 29, 2022, 02:48:48 PM
For those theatrical Antrim supporters with short memories - Games won in the Ulster championship in the last decade (2012-now)

Donegal 28
Monaghan 16
Tyrone 12
Cavan 9
Down 7
Armagh 4
Fermanagh 4
Derry 1
Antrim 1

Courtesy of Cahair O'Kane.

When does Gaelfast kick in?  :D
debates on Gaelfast not welcome on this site . I'd still like to see what the plan is for it but it's seems No be non existent or secret squirrel

Dont really understand what your beef is with Gaelfast. They work primarily with Primary school children, and are in existence less than 4 years so how could they have influenced the number of senior championships wins our senior county footballers have had in the last 10 years.

Facts don't suit any of the agendas that are pushed on this board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 02, 2022, 01:54:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

South West schools be mostly fine .....take the road over the Bann and head towards Maghera or Magherafelt.....
Easy to spot a kids on under age activity who have gone there....

Despite the comments of one individual in particular
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 02, 2022, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.

Now that is a good idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on May 02, 2022, 03:37:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.


Only Antrim Schools?  So Aquinas, St Josephs and OLASP don't get to play?  Surely should be called Gaelantrim then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on May 02, 2022, 03:37:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.

Excellent idea , fair play 👍


Only Antrim Schools?  So Aquinas, St Josephs and OLASP don't get to play?  Surely should be called Gaelantrim then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2022, 08:31:27 AM
That was a fair trimming Louth took from Kildare. 16 point defeat from what is now a fellow division 2 team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2022, 08:46:22 AM
Yeah I was looking at that too - just shows you the gap. As does the Cavan game really. That will be a significant blow for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 03, 2022, 09:16:50 AM
Louth were a good bit better than us that dayin the league, scoreline flattered us tbh, then to see them put to the sword like that by Kildare is scary in terms of the reality of where we are at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2022, 09:19:45 AM
Yeah and it must be some jolt for them too for I think they were the best in division 3 though Limerick had a good result. Wicklow had manners put in them too.

So only Fermanagh and Limerick with any kind of results against teams above division 3 and then Tyrone didn't look exceptional either.

(I know Cavan are in division 4 but they should really be in 2).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 03, 2022, 10:09:56 AM
So has Anto McCaffery from St Galls gone from Gaelfast ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 03, 2022, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 02, 2022, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.

Now that is a good idea
That sounds good to me  :) good initiative
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 03, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 02, 2022, 01:42:26 PM
gaelfast is making a diffference in primary schools but what happens when they go to secondary - just leave it to the teachers like now?

Gaelfast bosses  in our school a couple weeks back with plans to start an Antrim secondary schools league and championship which we signed up to, to run alongside Ulster schools but only for Antrim schools, starting in September, hurling and football.

I really hope they start that up, and soon.

Did they happen to say what schools had committed to it?

Or are they just making their way around them now trying to get a buy in?

My son is in Year 10 at St Louis and when they got knocked out of the cup they were in (Loch an Iuir i think), that was it, no training, no challenge matches, nothing.

Just season over. Which was very disappointing and not the right attitude in my eyes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 04, 2022, 10:55:40 AM
Any initiatives that increase the activity level is a welcome development. Maybe this is one that can grow legs in the next year or two with adequate financial support.

Another round of league fixtures tonight - a few short odds and a couple of interesting ones.

Big week for county minors, home to Tyrone on Saturday night. Will head up to that, on the back of their superb performance last day they have fully earned and deserve our support.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 04, 2022, 11:11:53 AM
Ports and Lamhs should be a tasty affair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 04, 2022, 12:43:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 04, 2022, 10:55:40 AM
Any initiatives that increase the activity level is a welcome development. Maybe this is one that can grow legs in the next year or two with adequate financial support.

Another round of league fixtures tonight - a few short odds and a couple of interesting ones.

Big week for county minors, home to Tyrone on Saturday night. Will head up to that, on the back of their superb performance last day they have fully earned and deserve our support.
Hopefully you don't scud them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 04, 2022, 03:14:30 PM
There might be a few at it who weren't in Inniskeen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2022, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.

? Another card?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2022, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.

? Another card?

Self defence. Some gutless actions from the men on the hill and I've no axe to grind with either club.

I counted 5 Judas digs from the ex county captain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 04, 2022, 10:43:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2022, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.

? Another card?

Self defence. Some gutless actions from the men on the hill and I've no axe to grind with either club.

I counted 5 Judas digs from the ex county captain.

Sure Anto was observing...


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2022, 10:44:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 04, 2022, 10:43:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2022, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.

? Another card?

Self defence. Some gutless actions from the men on the hill and I've no axe to grind with either club.

I counted 5 Judas digs from the ex county captain.

Sure Anto was observing...

?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2022, 10:48:56 PM
Good win for us over a team hat was sitting snuggly in mid table. Draw was predicted but happy enough considering we are completely reconstructed from before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 04, 2022, 11:55:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2
quote author=paddyjohn link=topic=21.msg2120430#msg2120430 date=1651698922]
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.

? Another card?

Self defence. Some gutless actions from the men on the hill and I've no axe to grind with either club.

I counted 5 Judas digs from the ex county captain.
[/quote]



Surely not again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 05, 2022, 12:01:41 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 04, 2022, 11:55:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2
quote author=paddyjohn link=topic=21.msg2120430#msg2120430 date=1651698922]
Ding ding!! Round 1. 😉😉

Don't pick on the big man though.

? Another card?

Self defence. Some gutless actions from the men on the hill and I've no axe to grind with either club.

I counted 5 Judas digs from the ex county captain.



Surely not again?
[/quote]

He was badly treated tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 05, 2022, 09:33:35 AM
I wasn't at the game but the chat in here this morning was that the Ports manager has to take some of the blame for instigating the row, was in middle of the pitch giving verbals to several LD players who then reacted and things spiralled from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 05, 2022, 10:45:35 AM
LD are the dirtiest team in the league. Always some sort of row or scuffle in their games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 05, 2022, 10:55:02 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on May 05, 2022, 10:19:44 AM
Can't help but think we  should've came down the road with at least another point last night,leading by a couple off points halfway through the second half,just couldn't hold on and fair play to aghagallon

Was at an underage blitz so missed it last night but from following twitter, looked like we went 20 minutes in 2nd half without scoring, which they have to be kicking themselves over when losing by a point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 10:56:45 AM
It's football, there's a row and a scuffle nearly in every game I've seen or been officiating, 3 games in hurling so far and not a sniff of it..

If we had the manpower and people that would get more involved in refereeing we would be in a great position to have linesmen at games.. Wouldn't that be great, unfortunately we don't have the numbers nor the enthusiasm to have this luxury.

I don't know why though as we've plenty ref's hanging over the sidelines of the fence giving lovely instructions and guidance   ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 05, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
Lamh Dhearg seem to be involved in loads of scraps,creggan v biddies reserves last week ended in a row too,brush brush nothing to see here it seems 😕
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 05, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
Lamh Dhearg seem to be involved in loads of scraps,creggan v biddies reserves last week ended in a row too,brush brush nothing to see here it seems 😕

People take the 'tackle' too personal in football and its no surprise that they do end up scrapes, retribution.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: referee on May 05, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Milltown,obviously if you asked smiley duffin about a certain referees' interpretation off the tackle rule in a game v Tir Na Nog last year he wouldn't be too pleased,broken jaw,plate and what not,not to mention a couple of men with broken/cracked ribs

Yeah had the ref seen the incident the way it was meant to have happened he'd have dealt with it, It makes absolutely no sense for a ref to not react and card someone if he see's a 'cardable'  offence, like why wouldn't he? but blame the ref as he was the one that carried it out.

Is this the same Moneyglass that had 2 free for all's with sending off's and multiple yellow cards last week at Aldergrove? I get what you are saying here, some sort of pattern emerging

When did this culture come about that the ref is at fault for causing lads to take lumps out of each other?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on May 05, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
the sarcasm is dripping off MR2. I hope your not as arrogant on the filed as a ref as you come across here.

Anyway I main point with refs are how they can contribute to escalating to the tension that is growing in game by their inability to smell trouble in a and get on top of it to prevent escalation. Thankfully most do have that skill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on May 05, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
the sarcasm is dripping off MR2. I hope your not as arrogant on the filed as a ref as you come across here.

Anyway I main point with refs are how they can contribute to escalating to the tension that is growing in game by their inability to smell trouble in a and get on top of it to prevent escalation. Thankfully most do have that skill.

It's not sarcasm at all, play the ball and let the ref's do the best they can. Why does it become a ref thing anyway?

By getting on top of it please explain? Example I gave there was no hassle until last 5 minutes, free for all bookings handed out, next kick out two lads wanted to box, another free for all more bookings followed by 2 straight reds...

Players need to take responsibility for their actions, you're claiming that the ref see's everything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 05, 2022, 01:57:29 PM
Yes the ref should try to 'set the tone' and keep control of the game but the vast majority of times when players lose their discipline it is not the fault of a referee!

Players and management need to take primary responsibility for this. And it's clear there are a few teams who have a problem in this department. LD being one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: Caesar on May 05, 2022, 01:57:29 PM
Yes the ref should try to 'set the tone' and keep control of the game but the vast majority of times when players lose their discipline it is not the fault of a referee!

Players and management need to take primary responsibility for this. And it's clear there are a few teams who have a problem in this department. LD being one.

I'm certainly not here to defend any team. I'm one club concerned with and that my own.

If the ref set the tone to the absolute rules there would be more gurnning and that's fact, we'd have lads off in every game and people saying that was soft.

Going back to your last point I've seen plenty this year and years gone by to suggest that there are plenty at all grades having free for alls during games.. it can't always be the ref's fault, just think about it logically
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on May 05, 2022, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: referee on May 05, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Milltown,obviously if you asked smiley duffin about a certain referees' interpretation off the tackle rule in a game v Tir Na Nog last year he wouldn't be too pleased,broken jaw,plate and what not,not to mention a couple of men with broken/cracked ribs

Yeah had the ref seen the incident the way it was meant to have happened he'd have dealt with it, It makes absolutely no sense for a ref to not react and card someone if he see's a 'cardable'  offence, like why wouldn't he? but blame the ref as he was the one that carried it out.

Is this the same Moneyglass that had 2 free for all's with sending off's and multiple yellow cards last week at Aldergrove? I get what you are saying here, some sort of pattern emerging

When did this culture come about that the ref is at fault for causing lads to take lumps out of each other?

Moneyglass not the only common denominator in the two matches mentioned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 05, 2022, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: referee on May 05, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Milltown,obviously if you asked smiley duffin about a certain referees' interpretation off the tackle rule in a game v Tir Na Nog last year he wouldn't be too pleased,broken jaw,plate and what not,not to mention a couple of men with broken/cracked ribs

Yeah had the ref seen the incident the way it was meant to have happened he'd have dealt with it, It makes absolutely no sense for a ref to not react and card someone if he see's a 'cardable'  offence, like why wouldn't he? but blame the ref as he was the one that carried it out.

Is this the same Moneyglass that had 2 free for all's with sending off's and multiple yellow cards last week at Aldergrove? I get what you are saying here, some sort of pattern emerging

When did this culture come about that the ref is at fault for causing lads to take lumps out of each other?

Moneyglass not the only common denominator in the two matches mentioned

There was no free for all in their game with Tir Na Og, no sending off's either during the game.

Who do you blame when a game isn't ref'd by me?

Typical though, its easier to blame anyone bar your own players/club, we've headers in our club that they'll blame the ref before the ball is even thrown in/up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on May 05, 2022, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on May 05, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
the sarcasm is dripping off MR2. I hope your not as arrogant on the filed as a ref as you come across here.

Anyway I main point with refs are how they can contribute to escalating to the tension that is growing in game by their inability to smell trouble in a and get on top of it to prevent escalation. Thankfully most do have that skill.

It's not sarcasm at all, play the ball and let the ref's do the best they can. Why does it become a ref thing anyway?

By getting on top of it please explain? Example I gave there was no hassle until last 5 minutes, free for all bookings handed out, next kick out two lads wanted to box, another free for all more bookings followed by 2 straight reds...

Players need to take responsibility for their actions, you're claiming that the ref see's everything

getting on top of it means giving yellows, being assertive, verbally letting players know the next time anyone steps cross the line red cards will be shown. Showing one if necessary to send the message. When a ref does the opposite and ignores the intensity of the tackles are happening in front of him you know it is going to escalate. I agree players have to take responsibility, but when you get a a few dirty tackles and its ignored I can tell you your aggression levels go up and is not matched by a level of common sense. And i also agree sometimes with the best will in the world some players don't listen and take nmatters into their own hands regardless of the advise given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on May 05, 2022, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on May 05, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
the sarcasm is dripping off MR2. I hope your not as arrogant on the filed as a ref as you come across here.

Anyway I main point with refs are how they can contribute to escalating to the tension that is growing in game by their inability to smell trouble in a and get on top of it to prevent escalation. Thankfully most do have that skill.

It's not sarcasm at all, play the ball and let the ref's do the best they can. Why does it become a ref thing anyway?

By getting on top of it please explain? Example I gave there was no hassle until last 5 minutes, free for all bookings handed out, next kick out two lads wanted to box, another free for all more bookings followed by 2 straight reds...

Players need to take responsibility for their actions, you're claiming that the ref see's everything

getting on top of it means giving yellows, being assertive, verbally letting players know the next time anyone steps cross the line red cards will be shown. Showing one if necessary to send the message. When a ref does the opposite and ignores the intensity of the tackles are happening in front of him you know it is going to escalate. I agree players have to take responsibility, but when you get a a few dirty tackles and its ignored I can tell you your aggression levels go up and is not matched by a level of common sense. And i also agree sometimes with the best will in the world some players don't listen and take nmatters into their own hands regardless of the advise given

I know what you are saying, and this isn't coming from someone who hasn't a notion of hurling football and what goes into looking after teams.

The yehoooing into peoples faces after a score and a wide is one reason why the tensions rise, supporters behind the wire need to wind their necks in also, I think because they have paid in they can say what they like.  Managers have case to answer for also, if you (like I do) listen to the team talks before throw in then its not surprising the tension is heighten. The getting to know you part at the start could well end up with 5 to 10 yellow cards, that's before I throw the ball up if we, like you said, became assertive..

Things need to start and settle, the game ebbs and flows like that, retribution isn't taking pot shots at someone, retribution should be putting the ball over the bar or creating a score and winning the game.

Most ref's talk during the game, telling lads to take it easy and stop the carry on or you'll end up on the sidelines, that's the warning, might as well say it in Chinese.  If I were to follow the rules like you have said most games would finish with 10 aside.

Trying to control 30 players and managements expectations of how they want the game ref'd must seem very easy, its surprising with all the experts about (and I'm not saying your post is wrong) that we don't have more doing it..

The most popular phrase in a game, by players is "why would you become a ref"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 05, 2022, 02:50:01 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 05, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
Lamh Dhearg seem to be involved in loads of scraps,creggan v biddies reserves last week ended in a row too,brush brush nothing to see here it seems 😕
I have seen most of Cargins games, Lamh Dhearg, St Johns, Portglenone, Creggan, all sporting games. In a laughable way St Brigids the dirtiest team we have came across. Needless off the ball incidents all over the place by people pretending to be hard against a few weeks ago with a mouthy management team on their line. Hearing they fought Creggan reserves last week also (match abandoned).Obviously the Donegal lad is trying to breed some fight into the notoriously soft centred St Brigids men, playing snooker with a rope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2022, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 28, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀

Aldergrove Moneyglass got spicy towards the end goo
Ref had it all under control though !!

Boys just wanted to get to know each other better, swapping shirts and hugging, whispering sweet nothings into each others ears

This was last week, now it was a free for all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2022, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2022, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 28, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 28, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Kickhams probably favourites for Championship at this stage, reports of a brawl last night at Tir na Nog v Lamh Dhearg, maybe CB chose wrong game to go to 👀

Aldergrove Moneyglass got spicy towards the end goo
Ref had it all under control though !!

Boys just wanted to get to know each other better, swapping shirts and hugging, whispering sweet nothings into each others ears

This was last week, now it was a free for all

Thats what a free for all is. lads wanting to do a lot of hugging, boxing is different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 05, 2022, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 05, 2022, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: referee on May 05, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Milltown,obviously if you asked smiley duffin about a certain referees' interpretation off the tackle rule in a game v Tir Na Nog last year he wouldn't be too pleased,broken jaw,plate and what not,not to mention a couple of men with broken/cracked ribs

Yeah had the ref seen the incident the way it was meant to have happened he'd have dealt with it, It makes absolutely no sense for a ref to not react and card someone if he see's a 'cardable'  offence, like why wouldn't he? but blame the ref as he was the one that carried it out.

Is this the same Moneyglass that had 2 free for all's with sending off's and multiple yellow cards last week at Aldergrove? I get what you are saying here, some sort of pattern emerging

When did this culture come about that the ref is at fault for causing lads to take lumps out of each other?

Moneyglass not the only common denominator in the two matches mentioned
Certain referees love the tag of 'he lets the game go'. Of course this will be roundly denied.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 03:27:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 05, 2022, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on May 05, 2022, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: referee on May 05, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Milltown,obviously if you asked smiley duffin about a certain referees' interpretation off the tackle rule in a game v Tir Na Nog last year he wouldn't be too pleased,broken jaw,plate and what not,not to mention a couple of men with broken/cracked ribs

Yeah had the ref seen the incident the way it was meant to have happened he'd have dealt with it, It makes absolutely no sense for a ref to not react and card someone if he see's a 'cardable'  offence, like why wouldn't he? but blame the ref as he was the one that carried it out.

Is this the same Moneyglass that had 2 free for all's with sending off's and multiple yellow cards last week at Aldergrove? I get what you are saying here, some sort of pattern emerging

When did this culture come about that the ref is at fault for causing lads to take lumps out of each other?

Moneyglass not the only common denominator in the two matches mentioned
Certain referees love the tag of 'he lets the game go'. Of course this will be roundly denied.

I've never seen a referee in any sport referee the game the same next day out, that's all based on the conditions and teams playing, why do people expect it to be the same?

They ain't professional, this isn't their job, they are in the main ex players. If you were a refereeing now would you say, based on your current knowledge of the rules and previous/current playing career that you'd do a better job than most of our top referees (those that are intercounty, that is) ?

Either you want a stickler of the rules or you want someone who'll let it go, why can't players (like rugby) just put the ball down move back into position, why have a verbal pop at the ref?

I've probably gave about 3 or 4 straight red cards in football, should just start dishing them out more often, that will get control of the game, should be grand after that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 05, 2022, 03:33:35 PM
On another aspect of this I find it frustrating at the bias reporting on the SG (don't get me wrong, they do a fantastic job covering the games and are an asset to the county), Kevin Herron 'reporting' on the LD v PG1 game last night, does not mention one aspect of aggression barring a black card for a PG1 player with a few mins to go, report the games warts and all Kevin or do not bother
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 04:05:51 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 05, 2022, 03:33:35 PM
On another aspect of this I find it frustrating at the bias reporting on the SG (don't get me wrong, they do a fantastic job covering the games and are an asset to the county), Kevin Herron 'reporting' on the LD v PG1 game last night, does not mention one aspect of aggression barring a black card for a PG1 player with a few mins to go, report the games warts and all Kevin or do not bother

I don't know what to say to that, would we want pictures as well? Kevin and the rest will try and be positive rather than having our negative part of the game.

I'm not being funny but what would we get out of it? The ref puts in a report on any issues I don't see how reading about fights in every game will promote people into allowing their kids to play the sport.

I've seen reports that will say in a ill tempered game, that's code for dirty lol..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 05, 2022, 04:15:42 PM
For once you not knowing what to say or saying nothing may make a change

Red cards, fights and aggression are part of the game and reporting of these incidents can help the reader who may not have had the opportunity to attend a game  to get the full picture of what has gone on and not the pre-watershed version, if it is the mission statement of GAA journalism to sanitise and promote the game in a reporting manner which does not reflect reality then so be it, however I do find it laughable MR2 that you will be the first to have a pop a Country Bumpkin for any bias towards our boys  [

quote author=Milltown Row2 link=topic=21.msg2120677#msg2120677 date=1651763151]
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 05, 2022, 03:33:35 PM
On another aspect of this I find it frustrating at the bias reporting on the SG (don't get me wrong, they do a fantastic job covering the games and are an asset to the county), Kevin Herron 'reporting' on the LD v PG1 game last night, does not mention one aspect of aggression barring a black card for a PG1 player with a few mins to go, report the games warts and all Kevin or do not bother

I don't know what to say to that, would we want pictures as well? Kevin and the rest will try and be positive rather than having our negative part of the game.

I'm not being funny but what would we get out of it? The ref puts in a report on any issues I don't see how reading about fights in every game will promote people into allowing their kids to play the sport.

I've seen reports that will say in a ill tempered game, that's code for dirty lol..
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 05, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
To be fair to KH and his failure to make comment on negativity at games he covers I do know that the SG has a strict policy against such 'incidents' being reported within.

Even the inefficiency of match officials, not mentioning any names cannot be commented on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2022, 04:44:49 PM
I don't think that's an unreasonable stance tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 04:49:10 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 05, 2022, 04:15:42 PM
For once you not knowing what to say or saying nothing may make a change

Red cards, fights and aggression are part of the game and reporting of these incidents can help the reader who may not have had the opportunity to attend a game  to get the full picture of what has gone on and not the pre-watershed version, if it is the mission statement of GAA journalism to sanitise and promote the game in a reporting manner which does not reflect reality then so be it, however I do find it laughable MR2 that you will be the first to have a pop a Country Bumpkin for any bias towards our boys  [

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Quote from: Would ye whist on May 05, 2022, 03:33:35 PM
On another aspect of this I find it frustrating at the bias reporting on the SG (don't get me wrong, they do a fantastic job covering the games and are an asset to the county), Kevin Herron 'reporting' on the LD v PG1 game last night, does not mention one aspect of aggression barring a black card for a PG1 player with a few mins to go, report the games warts and all Kevin or do not bother

I don't know what to say to that, would we want pictures as well? Kevin and the rest will try and be positive rather than having our negative part of the game.

I'm not being funny but what would we get out of it? The ref puts in a report on any issues I don't see how reading about fights in every game will promote people into allowing their kids to play the sport.

I've seen reports that will say in a ill tempered game, that's code for dirty lol..
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Don't take things too seriously, If i was seriously bothered I wouldn't bother, CB does a great job along with the rest in regards to reporting our games, its unprecedented with regards to media attention where we are now to when I certainly played and you were lucky enough to get one report a week in the IN..

CB has no real bias when reporting, nothing wrong with positive spin, and the fact that you are with a squad weekly you might get a bit of flack from players should you report that they were dirty shites and deserved their red card.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on May 06, 2022, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 05, 2022, 02:50:01 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 05, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
Lamh Dhearg seem to be involved in loads of scraps,creggan v biddies reserves last week ended in a row too,brush brush nothing to see here it seems 😕
I have seen most of Cargins games, Lamh Dhearg, St Johns, Portglenone, Creggan, all sporting games. In a laughable way St Brigids the dirtiest team we have came across. Needless off the ball incidents all over the place by people pretending to be hard against a few weeks ago with a mouthy management team on their line. Hearing they fought Creggan reserves last week also (match abandoned).Obviously the Donegal lad is trying to breed some fight into the notoriously soft centred St Brigids men, playing snooker with a rope.

Nonsense... game was over.
Creggan player then started row... handbags for 20 secs..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

Only 1 man can answer this, and given that the guy gives his time FOC, I don't think this is something to get hung up on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

Only 1 man can answer this, and given that the guy gives his time FOC, I don't think this is something to get hung up on.

We could go through hundreds of reports and there will be plenty that don't reference certain things (for good reason in my book) and plenty bias shown...

As CB has said there is protocol when writing up reports, any beef that you (not you Tyrdub) have then SG should be the ones that you speak too next time they are at one of the games you are watching, I'm sure they will deal with any issues you have on this matter and give their reasons why.

SG is a free to read service, you don't have to read the reports if you are not happy with them, personally I think they do a brilliant job, and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 06, 2022, 10:02:19 AM
Well said! Would ye whist your name couldn't be more apt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 06, 2022, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

Only 1 man can answer this, and given that the guy gives his time FOC, I don't think this is something to get hung up on.

We could go through hundreds of reports and there will be plenty that don't reference certain things (for good reason in my book) and plenty bias shown...

As CB has said there is protocol when writing up reports, any beef that you (not you Tyrdub) have then SG should be the ones that you speak too next time they are at one of the games you are watching, I'm sure they will deal with any issues you have on this matter and give their reasons why.

SG is a free to read service, you don't have to read the reports if you are not happy with them, personally I think they do a brilliant job, and long may it continue.

I actually think that it will improve the standard of games within the county in general (over time). The publicity it gets now and the fact everyone can see it and kids can see the publicity the older ones are getting etc. It is just a fantastic service. Also for people who have moved away from home keeping in touch with their home club it's great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 10:38:01 AM
Look back at my earlier posts MR2 where I stated they do a fantastic job and further hats off to them for their commitment to providing a platform for our games......................

I merely struggle to understand why it is reported in one report that a member of one team got removed from the pitch but not the other, coincidence I suppose that the 'journalist' scribing the report happened to be from LD 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

Only 1 man can answer this, and given that the guy gives his time FOC, I don't think this is something to get hung up on.

We could go through hundreds of reports and there will be plenty that don't reference certain things (for good reason in my book) and plenty bias shown...

As CB has said there is protocol when writing up reports, any beef that you (not you Tyrdub) have then SG should be the ones that you speak too next time they are at one of the games you are watching, I'm sure they will deal with any issues you have on this matter and give their reasons why.

SG is a free to read service, you don't have to read the reports if you are not happy with them, personally I think they do a brilliant job, and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 10:59:04 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 10:38:01 AM
Look back at my earlier posts MR2 where I stated they do a fantastic job and further hats off to them for their commitment to providing a platform for our games......................

I merely struggle to understand why it is reported in one report that a member of one team got removed from the pitch but not the other, coincidence I suppose that the 'journalist' scribing the report happened to be from LD 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

Only 1 man can answer this, and given that the guy gives his time FOC, I don't think this is something to get hung up on.

We could go through hundreds of reports and there will be plenty that don't reference certain things (for good reason in my book) and plenty bias shown...

As CB has said there is protocol when writing up reports, any beef that you (not you Tyrdub) have then SG should be the ones that you speak too next time they are at one of the games you are watching, I'm sure they will deal with any issues you have on this matter and give their reasons why.

SG is a free to read service, you don't have to read the reports if you are not happy with them, personally I think they do a brilliant job, and long may it continue.

I get ya and I read the report, and for the ones that were not at the game its our only report to look at. But like anything once someone hears something from a third party well it can be another persons view on things and we all of a sudden have a different perspective of the game.

I was backing up your point on the service they provide, but only saying they'd be happy to chat to. They would be my only neutrals at the games at halftime that are willing to chat lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 11:03:26 AM
Fair enough and points take, the McIllwane's are gents and have a hell of a lot of more experience in reporting than I do. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 10:59:04 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 10:38:01 AM
Look back at my earlier posts MR2 where I stated they do a fantastic job and further hats off to them for their commitment to providing a platform for our games......................

I merely struggle to understand why it is reported in one report that a member of one team got removed from the pitch but not the other, coincidence I suppose that the 'journalist' scribing the report happened to be from LD 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 06, 2022, 09:36:25 AM
This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

Quote from: Tyrdub on May 06, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 06, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 04:47:23 PM
I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

Only 1 man can answer this, and given that the guy gives his time FOC, I don't think this is something to get hung up on.

We could go through hundreds of reports and there will be plenty that don't reference certain things (for good reason in my book) and plenty bias shown...

As CB has said there is protocol when writing up reports, any beef that you (not you Tyrdub) have then SG should be the ones that you speak too next time they are at one of the games you are watching, I'm sure they will deal with any issues you have on this matter and give their reasons why.

SG is a free to read service, you don't have to read the reports if you are not happy with them, personally I think they do a brilliant job, and long may it continue.

I get ya and I read the report, and for the ones that were not at the game its our only report to look at. But like anything once someone hears something from a third party well it can be another persons view on things and we all of a sudden have a different perspective of the game.

I was backing up your point on the service they provide, but only saying they'd be happy to chat to. They would be my only neutrals at the games at halftime that are willing to chat lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 06, 2022, 11:42:09 AM
I'm going to have one post on the matter and then leave the conversation. For years LD have tried to intimidate us of the pitch, some times it worked, some times it didn't, the other night it didn't but my concern was they appeared to be going out to physically injure our players! That is low, they have gone way down in my estimation, there is potential for going over the line in all teams, in fact I'd like to see a bit more from our lads. The other night LD went over the line and their football suffered, they would want to.address that. Look forward to meeting them later in the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2022, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 06, 2022, 11:42:09 AM
I'm going to have one post on the matter and then leave the conversation. For years LD have tried to intimidate us of the pitch, some times it worked, some times it didn't, the other night it didn't but my concern was they appeared to be going out to physically injure our players! That is low, they have gone way down in my estimation, there is potential for going over the line in all teams, in fact I'd like to see a bit more from our lads. The other night LD went over the line and their football suffered, they would want to.address that. Look forward to meeting them later in the year.

You don't want others to do it but would prefer if your lads did a bit more of it?

On the topic of playing on the edge, lots of teams see it as a chance to bully teams, Limerick in hurling have been doing for the last few years, before that Kilkenny and in football terms Dublin, fight the fight and the skill will get you over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 06, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
Talked to my mate who observed at first hand the LD V Ports games. He gave a detailed report and to summarise without mentioning anyone. There was alot of clipping done on both sides when it erupted before HT. Second half was surprisingly dull considering what had happened. Thankfully.

Bannside would have had a good view, he's gone very quiet. Although to be fair I wouldn't blame him.

Fair play to RC for not hiding in the long grass and at least making one post on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 06, 2022, 12:51:06 PM
Playing on the edge is one thing, intentionally attempting to injure an opposition player is another and is entirely unacceptable!

From what I have heard that's what was happening (off the ball) by the LD player (who shall remain unnamed).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 06, 2022, 01:51:56 PM
An LD lad was putting his famous left foot to bad use for once. Sneaked dirty action.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 06, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
Up here in Crowne Plaza at the Saffron Business Forum Fundraising dinner and what a superb event it is. A professional showcase for Antrim GAA, hosted by Paul McErlean from MCE and his team.

Particularly delighted that Saffron Gael has been specifically highlighted as a best in class medium for the promotion of our games and a presentation was made to Curly to reflect that.

I personally would like to see the county board step up a bit further in this regard. We might be falling into a trap of taking the unrivalled SG service for granted - the work it does is significant in the promotion of the games in our county.

When you had that and Sean Kelly working in tandem there is little doubt Antrims promotion of GAA culture was amongst the best in the country
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 06, 2022, 02:27:51 PM
Whoever you're talking to DK is full of bull manure, there wasn't a dirty action in the game until the off the ball incident which sparked the reaction just before half time. That player definitely didn't do his teammates any favours.

Hats off to the referee Danny O Neill who managed to resume play and their wasn't a dirty stroke in the whole of the second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 06, 2022, 02:50:07 PM
so Davitts juveniles are useless , gorts seniors are terribe and LD are animals
any more city bashing?
County good Belfast Bad brigade or what!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 06, 2022, 03:15:11 PM
Not my sentiments! We need a city with strong and successful teams. SW clubs clearly starting to raise their game after decades of underachievement. City clubs need to hit reset, especially with juveniles, and that rising tide will lift all boats.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 06, 2022, 11:08:07 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 06, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
Up here in Crowne Plaza at the Saffron Business Forum Fundraising dinner and what a superb event it is. A professional showcase for Antrim GAA, hosted by Paul McErlean from MCE and his team.

Particularly delighted that Saffron Gael has been specifically highlighted as a best in class medium for the promotion of our games and a presentation was made to Curly to reflect that.

I personally would like to see the county board step up a bit further in this regard. We might be falling into a trap of taking the unrivalled SG service for granted - the work it does is significant in the promotion of the games in our county.


Sean was a great pro, but he served his 5 years and had to move on as per rule, Sean very much still involved as Ulster rep and covering for our current pro he told me at the game last weekend.

I think BS you will also find if you were talking to paddy mc that several members of our current county board make significant contributions to Sg but without seeking publicity
When you had that and Sean Kelly working in tandem there is little doubt Antrims promotion of GAA culture was amongst the best in the country
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Concerned Gael on May 06, 2022, 11:40:11 PM
I attend as many games as possible across both codes and genuinely concerned about someone getting seriously hurt or worse from some of these melees. Hurling not as bad especially as the higher level, do see it at at lower level and think it's do with lacking sharpness and ability . But nobody seems to strike with the hurl above the hip as often thankfully.
Was at game in Hannahstown, both sets of clubs might be disappointed in some actions of players. I heard the usual roar when something happens off the ball and see the PG manager run on the pitch and get involved in "physical alteration" with LD player which kicked everything off and he should take a long hard look at himself for his actions. Why do managers run on the pitch never seen it call anything down which I do think most think they are trying to do, this guy certainly wasn't on to calm down. This SW and Belfast nonsense needs to stop, PG been involved with major melees in last number of years with Belfast teams it seems? Cracking team who must think they have to prove a point according to RC with bullying problem? Too many good players in that team and wish more would play county. How do we stop the potential of someone getting hurt in all seriousness? It's going to get worse. And please stop the country city nonsense. As someone geographically caught in the middle it embarrassing to county and stops us progressing. Always the big bad Belfast or vice versa. Grow up and take responsibility or pride for the  pros and cons of whatever your club is. There is no big agenda for one club or the other in my 33 years plus experience, people just want to do there job and see club or county do well without people in the background pulling moves to get a PG, Ballycastle  Glenarm or LD to do better no matter what some online warriors or trolls seem to think.

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 07, 2022, 03:19:05 AM
Quote from: Concerned Gael on May 06, 2022, 11:40:11 PM
I attend as many games as possible across both codes and genuinely concerned about someone getting seriously hurt or worse from some of these melees. Hurling not as bad especially as the higher level, do see it at at lower level and think it's do with lacking sharpness and ability . But nobody seems to strike with the hurl above the hip as often thankfully.
Was at game in Hannahstown, both sets of clubs might be disappointed in some actions of players. I heard the usual roar when something happens off the ball and see the PG manager run on the pitch and get involved in "physical alteration" with LD player which kicked everything off and he should take a long hard look at himself for his actions. Why do managers run on the pitch never seen it call anything down which I do think most think they are trying to do, this guy certainly wasn't on to calm down. This SW and Belfast nonsense needs to stop, PG been involved with major melees in last number of years with Belfast teams it seems? Cracking team who must think they have to prove a point according to RC with bullying problem? Too many good players in that team and wish more would play county. How do we stop the potential of someone getting hurt in all seriousness? It's going to get worse. And please stop the country city nonsense. As someone geographically caught in the middle it embarrassing to county and stops us progressing. Always the big bad Belfast or vice versa. Grow up and take responsibility or pride for the  pros and cons of whatever your club is. There is no big agenda for one club or the other in my 33 years plus experience, people just want to do there job and see club or county do well without people in the background pulling moves to get a PG, Ballycastle  Glenarm or LD to do better no matter what some online warriors or trolls seem to think.

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That sort of talk isn't welcomed around here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 07, 2022, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 07, 2022, 03:19:05 AM
Quote from: Concerned Gael on May 06, 2022, 11:40:11 PM
I attend as many games as possible across both codes and genuinely concerned about someone getting seriously hurt or worse from some of these melees. Hurling not as bad especially as the higher level, do see it at at lower level and think it's do with lacking sharpness and ability . But nobody seems to strike with the hurl above the hip as often thankfully.
Was at game in Hannahstown, both sets of clubs might be disappointed in some actions of players. I heard the usual roar when something happens off the ball and see the PG manager run on the pitch and get involved in "physical alteration" with LD player which kicked everything off and he should take a long hard look at himself for his actions. Why do managers run on the pitch never seen it call anything down which I do think most think they are trying to do, this guy certainly wasn't on to calm down. This SW and Belfast nonsense needs to stop, PG been involved with major melees in last number of years with Belfast teams it seems? Cracking team who must think they have to prove a point according to RC with bullying problem? Too many good players in that team and wish more would play county. How do we stop the potential of someone getting hurt in all seriousness? It's going to get worse. And please stop the country city nonsense. As someone geographically caught in the middle it embarrassing to county and stops us progressing. Always the big bad Belfast or vice versa. Grow up and take responsibility or pride for the  pros and cons of whatever your club is. There is no big agenda for one club or the other in my 33 years plus experience, people just want to do there job and see club or county do well without people in the background pulling moves to get a PG, Ballycastle  Glenarm or LD to do better no matter what some online warriors or trolls seem to think.

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That sort of talk isn't welcomed around here.
That's a lengthy first post, some bull talked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 07, 2022, 07:26:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 07, 2022, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 07, 2022, 03:19:05 AM
Quote from: Concerned Gael on May 06, 2022, 11:40:11 PM
I attend as many games as possible across both codes and genuinely concerned about someone getting seriously hurt or worse from some of these melees. Hurling not as bad especially as the higher level, do see it at at lower level and think it's do with lacking sharpness and ability . But nobody seems to strike with the hurl above the hip as often thankfully.
Was at game in Hannahstown, both sets of clubs might be disappointed in some actions of players. I heard the usual roar when something happens off the ball and see the PG manager run on the pitch and get involved in "physical alteration" with LD player which kicked everything off and he should take a long hard look at himself for his actions. Why do managers run on the pitch never seen it call anything down which I do think most think they are trying to do, this guy certainly wasn't on to calm down. This SW and Belfast nonsense needs to stop, PG been involved with major melees in last number of years with Belfast teams it seems? Cracking team who must think they have to prove a point according to RC with bullying problem? Too many good players in that team and wish more would play county. How do we stop the potential of someone getting hurt in all seriousness? It's going to get worse. And please stop the country city nonsense. As someone geographically caught in the middle it embarrassing to county and stops us progressing. Always the big bad Belfast or vice versa. Grow up and take responsibility or pride for the  pros and cons of whatever your club is. There is no big agenda for one club or the other in my 33 years plus experience, people just want to do there job and see club or county do well without people in the background pulling moves to get a PG, Ballycastle  Glenarm or LD to do better no matter what some online warriors or trolls seem to think.

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That sort of talk isn't welcomed around here.
That's a lengthy first post, some bull talked

Whatever happened to saying hello.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 07, 2022, 08:13:46 PM
The minor lads were overpowered tonight. Only saw first half, thought they did ok, could have had a few more scores, we were very competitive for a 20 minute period but faded towards end of the half. Cavan next, hopefully at home too in what would surely be a more competitive game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 07, 2022, 09:25:46 PM
We didn't get any spell in the second half. Outplayed throughout by a super well drilled outfit. We dared to dream I suppose. Noah Grimes is something else, definitely one for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
Any man can comment what they want but no man can question Bannsides commitment, never misses, fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2022, 10:30:44 PM
So who got the red at Lamhs game anyway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 07, 2022, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2022, 09:25:46 PM
We didn't get any spell in the second half. Outplayed throughout by a super well drilled outfit. We dared to dream I suppose. Noah Grimes is something else, definitely one for the future.

Big Mcaleese from your club BS acquitted himself reasonably well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
Any man can comment what they want but no man can question Bannsides commitment, never misses, fair play.
Sure a man of your standing would know that already..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 07, 2022, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2022, 09:25:46 PM
Good footballer, good family, good kid.
We didn't get any spell in the second half. Outplayed throughout by a super well drilled outfit. We dared to dream I suppose. Noah Grimes is something else, definitely one for the future.

Big Mcaleese from your club BS acquitted himself reasonably well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2022, 11:19:29 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
Any man can comment what they want but no man can question Bannsides commitment, never misses, fair play.
Sure a man of your standing would know that already..

You feeling alright? Answering to yourself? Few beverages taken  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 11:23:33 PM
Lol yes a few sunk but it was aimed at you mr2 you know the score about those wonderful gentlemen on hannahstown Hill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2022, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 11:23:33 PM
Lol yes a few sunk but it was aimed at you mr2 you know the score about those wonderful gentlemen on hannahstown Hill.

League is for shadow boxing or playing poker.. try and stay in the ring and never show your hand early on.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 08, 2022, 07:59:07 AM
Ciaran Mc Aleese shaping really well, probably Antrims best player on view yesterday. Like his brother Aidan who scored six points on Wednesday night against LD, these boys can take long range scores for fun. Youngest brother Frank is a few years younger and ticking all the boxes too. Definitely all pointing towards exciting playing careers for PG1 and the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 08, 2022, 10:05:13 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 07, 2022, 11:23:33 PM
Lol yes a few sunk but it was aimed at you mr2 you know the score about those wonderful gentlemen on hannahstown Hill.
Cannot disagree there RC......but everybody do those not so subtle appointments really impact on our games and does performances therein influence selection  for future selection.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 08, 2022, 10:03:45 PM
@bannside - just reading online about an injury to one of your reserve players, Ciaran Lynch. Hope he is ok, or going to be ok 🤞
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 08, 2022, 11:21:15 PM
Thanks Brendan. I will update you tomorrow. Complete accident, it happens in contact sport.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 09, 2022, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 07, 2022, 08:13:46 PM
The minor lads were overpowered tonight. Only saw first half, thought they did ok, could have had a few more scores, we were very competitive for a 20 minute period but faded towards end of the half. Cavan next, hopefully at home too in what would surely be a more competitive game

Think Cavan game will be away. Cavan lived with Tyrone for a long time in their game, a couple Noah grimes inspired goals got Tyrone over the line that day, and blew Fermanagh away on Saturday with a very powerful second half performance.  Will be another tough ask for our minors i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 09, 2022, 11:33:54 AM
Tyrone had obviously done their homework and completely subdued our usual standout players. But it was the speed of their transition from defence to attack that really caught the eye. In comparison we were slow and laboured.

There were a few positives. Big Mc Crossan at midfield looks to me like a player we could be hearing much more of. Good hands and mobility and should stretch to 6 feet 4 before he's finished. He caught the eye, did simple things well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 09, 2022, 11:53:51 AM
Your right BS, big McCrossan had a decent shift as did McAleese and Enright in the first half. Didnt understand the move of CJ to full forward and trying to kick the ball into him with a sweeper in front of him, he impressed me for st marys playing at chf and being given a bit of freedom. Tyrone were excellent though, top class outfit that will take some stopping. Oneill from Donaghmore another star performer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 09, 2022, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 09, 2022, 11:53:51 AM
Your right BS, big McCrossan had a decent shift as did McAleese and Enright in the first half. Didnt understand the move of CJ to full forward and trying to kick the ball into him with a sweeper in front of him, he impressed me for st marys playing at chf and being given a bit of freedom. Tyrone were excellent though, top class outfit that will take some stopping. Oneill from Donaghmore another star performer.
Not easy for Conhuir, spectacular prospect but gets double marked every time he plays, at club level this is no problem but at the level of player Tyrone has this becomes difficult. I was at the game myself, we don't have as many good players as Tyrone, it's really as simple as that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 09, 2022, 06:44:44 PM

Agree totally EOC and having watched his progress since he was under-10 that CJ is a huge prospect and is the best under-17 about in out county

He scored 2-05 yesterday in a club game only coming into the game at half time....and will no doubt be in Cargin's Senior side come next year....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 08:32:00 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 11, 2022, 10:38:10 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 11, 2022, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 08:32:00 AM
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I can see the Johnnies dishing out a hammering to the brides
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 11, 2022, 11:42:15 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2022, 11:48:27 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on May 11, 2022, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 08:32:00 AM
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I can see the Johnnies dishing out a hammering to the brides

Dont see that, st johns have only won 3 games this season, lost 5, struggling to make the top half before the split.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 11, 2022, 12:00:57 PM
fair enough, but what have the biddies done to warrant a win prediction? From what i've seen of them they've been shockingly poor, and not missing many if supporters to be believed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on May 11, 2022, 12:00:57 PM
fair enough, but what have the biddies done to warrant a win prediction? From what i've seen of them they've been shockingly poor, and not missing many if supporters to be believed.

Both have been poor tbf, only 1 pt between them in the league. St Bs have Ronan Boyle back as he has left the county panel, that may just be enough to get them over the line at home in Musgrave, be a very tight game i would think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 11, 2022, 01:16:30 PM
St Brigids would be doing a lot better if they spent more time focussed on playing football instead of trying to act the hard men. Plenty of decent footballers in that team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 11, 2022, 09:06:58 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on May 11, 2022, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 08:32:00 AM
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Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls                    GLENRAVEL
All Saints Ballymena---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí                           DUNLOY
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CLG MacDaibhéid---v---Naomh Séamas                                          DRAW

I can see the Johnnies dishing out a hammering to the brides

🤔🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2022, 09:17:55 PM
I doubt anyone picked ardoyne to beat moneyglass either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 11, 2022, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 11, 2022, 09:06:58 PM
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Naomh Seosamh/St Joseph's---v---St Mary's Rasharkin                   GLENAVY
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls                    GLENRAVEL
All Saints Ballymena---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí                           DUNLOY
Ciceam Ard Eoin---v---Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás                        M'GLASS
CLG MacDaibhéid---v---Naomh Séamas                                          DRAW

I can see the Johnnies dishing out a hammering to the brides

🤔🤔

Good lad Brendan. Didn't quite catch your pre match predictions. 🤡
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 11, 2022, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 11, 2022, 09:17:55 PM
I doubt anyone picked ardoyne to beat moneyglass either.

Never saw that one coming at all, Rasharkin beating Glenavy at chapel hill a big shock also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 11, 2022, 10:44:02 PM
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Roger Casements Portglenone---v---St. Mary's Aghagallon   CASEMENTS
Naomh Éanna---v---Clann na hÉireann Carraigin            CARGIN
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Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille---v---Lamh Dhearg        ST MARYS
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Pádraig Sáirseil CLG---v---Naomh Treasa CLG /St Teresa's GAC        PADDYS
Naomh Seosamh/St Joseph's---v---St Mary's Rasharkin                   GLENAVY
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls                    GLENRAVEL
All Saints Ballymena---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí                           DUNLOY
Ciceam Ard Eoin---v---Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás                        M'GLASS
CLG MacDaibhéid---v---Naomh Séamas                                          DRAW

I can see the Johnnies dishing out a hammering to the brides

🤔🤔

Good lad Brendan. Didn't quite catch your pre match predictions. 🤡

He only has eyes for one club, the aggies. No actually stall that digger. 🤡🤡
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 11, 2022, 10:57:45 PM
Some strange results tonight, Rasharkin beating Glenavy, Ardoyne scoring heavily and beating MGlass and St Paul's taking a 16 point beating
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:56:11 AM
Hearing there have been a few departures from county senior panel in advance of Tailltean Cup. Marty Johnston and Eunan Walsh are two I've heard of....both will be losses to the squad and imo should have been getting much more game time than what was being offered to them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 12, 2022, 08:27:43 AM
St Endas took defensive structures to a new level last night, that wasn't easy watched. In the same vein not going to fault them for it, it takes committment.
BS it seems all county teams are losing players between Ulster champ loss and Tailteann start, and the format for the Tailteann not helping  raise interest. For me all players in the squad for the Cavan game should give the Tailteann a rattle, seemingly that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.

Struggling with your geography, you'll be telling me Ballycastle is in the SW also  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 08:42:59 AM
Of course every county will ship a few players who upon reflection arnt sitting as high in the managers pecking order as they would like. Antrim won't be only county in this position.

Your sentiments are noble EOC, but in real world there is a massive committment level involved and if you aren't seeing much (or in Eunans case any) game time, then I can understand why that player would want to transfer that committment level to their club.

To emphasise that point I ask you do you think Mick Tomas or James would be hanging around to play Tailltean Cup this year if they hadn't featured in the recent championship contest. We all know the answer is either definitely not, or extremely doubtful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 09:00:28 AM
By geographical definition SW Antrim would be Aghagallon Glenavy and Aldergrove. Antrim town and Baile Menoch could call themselves Mid Antrim. The three clubs near the Lough shore could be West Antrim, PG1 and Ahoghill Mid West Antrim and Rasharkin Dunloy North West Antrim. Would Glenravel qualify for North Antrim or would they be Mid North West Antrim?

Still not sure where St Endas fit in, any thoughts? North  South Antrim maybe!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 12, 2022, 09:10:53 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 08:42:59 AM
Of course every county will ship a few players who upon reflection arnt sitting as high in the managers pecking order as they would like. Antrim won't be only county in this position.

Your sentiments are noble EOC, but in real world there is a massive committment level involved and if you aren't seeing much (or in Eunans case any) game time, then I can understand why that player would want to transfer that committment level to their club.

To emphasise that point I ask you do you think Mick Tomas or James would be hanging around to play Tailltean Cup this year if they hadn't featured in the recent championship contest. We all know the answer is either definitely not, or extremely doubtful.

Enda tinkered very little with his starting 15 all season, only when injury made it necessary. The lads in the panel who put in the same effort as the starting 15 or the other 5 who usually got game time, are not seeing enough of a pathway . Its difficult to keep a panel of 30 happy, but a few more chances throughout the year may have helped. Tough one for players and mgt .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 12, 2022, 09:18:14 AM
Was the tailteann cup not sold as a group stage to get more games? Disappointed it is knockout, sure it basically is the back door albeit against potentially weaker opposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 12, 2022, 09:21:16 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 12, 2022, 09:18:14 AM
Was the tailteann cup not sold as a group stage to get more games? Disappointed it is knockout, sure it basically is the back door albeit against potentially weaker opposition.

Your 100% right, it was sold to counties as a group competition, an ideal opportunity to throw couple of u20s into the mix and blood them, but being told its straight knock out. Who changed it and why seem to be a mystery!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 09:31:54 AM
Its Endas gig. He chooses the back up on his management team and in turn they collectively decide on what players they want to go bat for them. They then get judged on how that collective performs. It's the same in every county (or club for that matter).

This Tailltean Cup programme will let us know more about the wellbeing of the camp. We arnt the hardest supporters to please, all we expect to see is a couple of good competitive performances, a win or two preferably on the way.

What no one wants to see is another capitulation, the throwing away of a ten point lead or something like that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 09:37:02 AM
The straight knockout is just this year, the competition reverts to round robin group stages next year. If it's seen as a place to give a run out or two to a few under 20s then the competition is doomed. It needs to be really worth going after, a valued and competitive competition if it's going to have any future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 12, 2022, 09:50:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 09:37:02 AM
The straight knockout is just this year, the competition reverts to round robin group stages next year. If it's seen as a place to give a run out or two to a few under 20s then the competition is doomed. It needs to be really worth going after, a valued and competitive competition if it's going to have any future.

well where do we give our young players a chance? We didnt in the league and not in the championship, even when the game was gone against cavan. The age profile of our senior team is worrying, if the older statesmen all decided to retire at one time we would be in a real handling. Heery, Boyle, walsh, hynds should all have been getting minutes, big Pat got a few near the end of the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 09:58:31 AM
Lads forget about county fudball, club is the only show in town.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
I don't know Saffs. I suppose the place for these guys to catch the eye is at training or in house games. If they are good enough the cream will rise to the top, and without doubt we need more punch in the forward line. It would be great if a few younger players came out of the pack, but who's knocking on the door?

Straightaway I'd have Sean O Neill and Sean Duffin on the panel, they hold most appeal to me. Have they been called up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 12, 2022, 10:16:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
I don't know Saffs. I suppose the place for these guys to catch the eye is at training or in house games. If they are good enough the cream will rise to the top, and without doubt we need more punch in the forward line. It would be great if a few younger players came out of the pack, but who's knocking on the door?

Straightaway I'd have Sean O Neill and Sean Duffin on the panel, they hold most appeal to me. Have they been called up?

Dont think either has Bs, Heery got called up (gk) but then Chris Kerr was brought in from hibernation in the Twittersphere to cover Mick in goal against Cavan a week before the game! some message that to young Heery.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 12, 2022, 10:17:30 AM
The draw for the Tailteann Cup is going to be on a regionalised basis, North and South. So the likelihood is we will get another dour Ulster derby. Antrim v Down I suppose would garner interest but another game v Cavan...or Fermanagh, not so much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 12, 2022, 10:39:31 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 12, 2022, 10:17:30 AM
The draw for the Tailteann Cup is going to be on a regionalised basis, North and South. So the likelihood is we will get another dour Ulster derby. Antrim v Down I suppose would garner interest but another game v Cavan...or Fermanagh, not so much.

Wee trip on a Saturday evening to Carrick on Shannon would be good, great spot for a few beers after a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 12, 2022, 12:26:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
I don't know Saffs. I suppose the place for these guys to catch the eye is at training or in house games. If they are good enough the cream will rise to the top, and without doubt we need more punch in the forward line. It would be great if a few younger players came out of the pack, but who's knocking on the door?

Straightaway I'd have Sean O Neill and Sean Duffin on the panel, they hold most appeal to me. Have they been called up?
Sean o neill has
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 12, 2022, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.

Struggling with your geography, you'll be telling me Ballycastle is in the SW also  :D

Glenravel played SW underage Football and NA hurling when it was a regional competition opposed to the all county one we have at the minute. I think that's why they are a SW club. Ballycastle also played underage SW for a year or 2 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
Speaking to a St Paul's man there at work and it seems they feel very sore at last night's result, they feel they did not stand a chance with the official last night, the game wasn't even 60/40 in decisions more like 80/20...............................

Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 12, 2022, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
Speaking to a St Paul's man there at work and it seems they feel very sore at last night's result, they feel they did not stand a chance with the official last night, the game wasn't even 60/40 in decisions more like 80/20...............................

Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.

Even the refs have a pick on the chip eaters now 🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 12, 2022, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
Speaking to a St Paul's man there at work and it seems they feel very sore at last night's result, they feel they did not stand a chance with the official last night, the game wasn't even 60/40 in decisions more like 80/20...............................

Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.


I went and looked the result first and then pissed myself laughing. Blaming the ref for them only scoring 3 points. Thats a hammering.

Very quiet reporting on the games yesterday evening here. I guess there were no scraps involving Casements ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 05:43:42 PM
Apparently it's 'personal' and the wee Derry ref has it in for St Paul's as a club! Seems a strange vendetta to choose but each to their own 🤷‍♂️

Quote from: Dunsilly King on May 12, 2022, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
Speaking to a St Paul's man there at work and it seems they feel very sore at last night's result, they feel they did not stand a chance with the official last night, the game wasn't even 60/40 in decisions more like 80/20...............................

Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.


I went and looked the result first and then pissed myself laughing. Blaming the ref for them only scoring 3 points. Thats a hammering.

Very quiet reporting on the games yesterday evening here. I guess there were no scraps involving Casements ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 12, 2022, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 08:42:59 AM
Of course every county will ship a few players who upon reflection arnt sitting as high in the managers pecking order as they would like. Antrim won't be only county in this position.

Your sentiments are noble EOC, but in real world there is a massive committment level involved and if you aren't seeing much (or in Eunans case any) game time, then I can understand why that player would want to transfer that committment level to their club.

To emphasise that point I ask you do you think Mick Tomas or James would be hanging around to play Tailltean Cup this year if they hadn't featured in the recent championship contest. We all know the answer is either definitely not, or extremely doubtful.





Won't be any Mick or Tomas from what I'm hearing and James possibly also,let's see how it plays out I guess watch this space 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
Speaking to a St Paul's man there at work and it seems they feel very sore at last night's result, they feel they did not stand a chance with the official last night, the game wasn't even 60/40 in decisions more like 80/20...............................

Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.

I love the ... was speaking to a man who was blah blah blah. Look at the score line first. I'd say this problem harps back to the minor final.

Some people hold a grudge some people wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 12, 2022, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
Speaking to a St Paul's man there at work and it seems they feel very sore at last night's result, they feel they did not stand a chance with the official last night, the game wasn't even 60/40 in decisions more like 80/20...............................

Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
Glenravel coming strong and supplying lots of players to county development squads and under 17s and 20s. Their club juvenile teams flying too, yet another SW club on a very definite progress curve. Going to get stronger now year on year too.

The Ardoyne result is a real head scratcher. Fair play to them, let's them see that glimpse of potential that they can aim to deliver on more consistent basis. Division two is really competitive this year.

I love the ... was speaking to a man who was blah blah blah. Look at the score line first. I'd say this problem harps back to the minor final.

Some people hold a grudge some people wise up

I also was talking to a man who said St Pauls were absolute rubbish and were lucky to score 3 points. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:24:31 PM
As some of you may know I wouldn't be a big fan of our refs, dome more than others :P but to suggest an official was at fault for a 16 point defeat, wtf???? Think the problem lies closer to home!! Also great to see a portglenone man pulling the strings for Glenravel, even though he will be due a bus pass soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:24:31 PM
As some of you may know I wouldn't be a big fan of our refs, dome more than others :P but to suggest an official was at fault for a 16 point defeat, wtf???? Think the problem lies closer to home!! Also great to see a portglenone man pulling the strings for Glenravel, even though he will be due a bus pass soon.

That's good info Roger casements the lads will be well happy with your criticism throughout the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:24:31 PM
As some of you may know I wouldn't be a big fan of our refs, dome more than others :P but to suggest an official was at fault for a 16 point defeat, wtf???? Think the problem lies closer to home!! Also great to see a portglenone man pulling the strings for Glenravel, even though he will be due a bus pass soon.

That's good info Roger casements the lads will be well happy with your criticism throughout the year

And there's your answer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:39:49 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:24:31 PM
As some of you may know I wouldn't be a big fan of our refs, dome more than others :P but to suggest an official was at fault for a 16 point defeat, wtf???? Think the problem lies closer to home!! Also great to see a portglenone man pulling the strings for Glenravel, even though he will be due a bus pass soon.

That's good info Roger casements the lads will be well happy with your criticism throughout the year

And there's your answer

Ah, it's ok for you to give abuse online but not ok to pull you on it? You're a right dose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 12, 2022, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 12, 2022, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 08:42:59 AM
Of course every county will ship a few players who upon reflection arnt sitting as high in the managers pecking order as they would like. Antrim won't be only county in this position.

Your sentiments are noble EOC, but in real world there is a massive committment level involved and if you aren't seeing much (or in Eunans case any) game time, then I can understand why that player would want to transfer that committment level to their club.

To emphasise that point I ask you do you think Mick Tomas or James would be hanging around to play Tailltean Cup this year if they hadn't featured in the recent championship contest. We all know the answer is either definitely not, or extremely doubtful.





Won't be any Mick or Tomas from what I'm hearing and James possibly also,let's see how it plays out I guess watch this space 🤔

James has 2 young kids and his wife is expecting again so that may play a part.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:39:49 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 08:24:31 PM
As some of you may know I wouldn't be a big fan of our refs, dome more than others :P but to suggest an official was at fault for a 16 point defeat, wtf???? Think the problem lies closer to home!! Also great to see a portglenone man pulling the strings for Glenravel, even though he will be due a bus pass soon.

That's good info Roger casements the lads will be well happy with your criticism throughout the year

And there's your answer

Ah, it's ok for you to give abuse online but not ok to pull you on it? You're a right dose

Sorry who have I abused online?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 10:02:57 PM
Undoubtedly the worst refereeing performance ever seen!

Speaking of referees, no coincidence that the man who caused mayhem in the first pg1 and ahoghill game hasn't refereed in senior championship since!

Don't get me started on that other clown if he is on the line!

Woeful, he was bullied! Paddy Cunningham refereed the match!

Can I end by saying I fully respect referees to the point where I feel they might be a little narcissistic, why would anyone want to do that!!

Yer man against Ahoghill in my opinion was so far out of his depth it was unreal as for Sunday past I genuinely believe it was barefaced bias towards a city side

I criticise Sean's refereeing ability, I think he is by some distance the best in Antrim. I was just saying he seemed to be getting it tight physically last night.

Sean Laverty looks seriously unfit!!!!









Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 10:09:41 PM
The irony is MR2 I was defending a referee!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 10:09:41 PM
The irony is MR2 I was defending a referee!

If that small selection of your comments are defending I wouldn't like to see you other ones..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on May 12, 2022, 10:12:39 PM
I've just listened to Kevin Brady on the BBC GAA social podcast, discussing message boards and mental health, made me think!!! As a result I'm outta here, up the Casements!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 10:20:23 PM
It would seem RC's comments are aimed at 2 refs who overseen defeats for PG1 in the championship last year? course his judgment would not have been clouded by bias
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 12, 2022, 10:20:23 PM
It would seem RC's comments are aimed at 2 refs who overseen defeats for PG1 in the championship last year? course his judgment would not have been clouded by bias

That was just a selective few, there are more.. but anyways he's a grand lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2022, 10:50:33 PM
I'd say that Cargin trio will all be available for selection. Loyalty is a two way street and those three have been given serious game time over the last two years, so shouldn't have any axe to grind with management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 13, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
Got to applaud the 3 of them, came back, helped get us out of the basement and keep us in Division 3. Something for a new group of younger players to build on next season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 13, 2022, 08:46:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 12, 2022, 10:50:33 PM
I'd say that Cargin trio will all be available for selection. Loyalty is a two way street and those three have been given serious game time over the last two years, so shouldn't have any axe to grind with management.


2 out of the 3 won't be I can assure you BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2022, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 13, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
Got to applaud the 3 of them, came back, helped get us out of the basement and keep us in Division 3. Something for a new group of younger players to build on next season.

You can't fault their commitment to Antrim over the years and whatever they do there can be no complaints..

For me this competition is a distraction, unless you enter a competition and target to win it then there is no point with all training and prep required, Antrim in the grand scale of things a Junior/Intermediate team, the set up needs changing in regards to The All Ireland.

Realistic targets that'll keep players to this finish of the campaign will bring about a better resolve to achieve.. If we continue to get stuffed in Ulster, lose players before this cup competition, which next year will be either round robin or groups (ffs) and players who are on the fringe or not getting any game time with the club or county, I just can't see the positives at all.

League position div 2 and 1 should be in for Sam, below play an Intermediate championship with promotion the following year to Sam. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2022, 09:02:13 AM
The GAA have made an awful balls of the Tailteann cup so it is no wonder people are walking away. You will see the same in a load of counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2022, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2022, 09:02:13 AM
The GAA have made an awful balls of the Tailteann cup so it is no wonder people are walking away. You will see the same in a load of counties.

Do you see any real difference between this and the Tommy Murphy cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2022, 09:08:37 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on May 13, 2022, 09:47:58 AM
Did Antrim get a bit of a run off the back of their Tommy Murphy success or did I imagine that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2022, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 13, 2022, 09:47:58 AM
Did Antrim get a bit of a run off the back of their Tommy Murphy success or did I imagine that?

We are the current holders of the cup, beat Wicklow but whether we got success or not I don't know, we did reach an Ulster final couple years later but we also had a decent team to be fair, we managed to win a club All Ireland 2 years after that success ... but I wouldn't say its was because of teh Tommy Murphy cup..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2022, 10:01:14 AM
We lost to a last minute goal in the final of the 2nd last one and won the last one I think? It was nice to be able to see Antrim in Croke Park mind you.

I am not convinced it advanced anything club AI wise however it did coincide with our ulster final appearance - whether coincidental or not I am not sure but it at least built confidence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2022, 11:55:20 AM
The way I see it is either the county takes the Tailltean Cup seriously or it dosent. There should be no in between. County board needs to get an update in this from management, a committment that we are going to give this a real rattle.... or not.

If we are, then we need players to be available and no excuses. And it's up to management to get their players out.

If we are not...then let players go back to clubs, don't spend any more money on expenses or preparation, and pull a team together to fulfil a fixture and get it over with.

Who the hell wants to go to Carrick on Shannon or anywhere if management or players don't even care?

Full steam ahead or  just fulfil fixture and get it over with for the year. No in between or taking the piss out of supporters please!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 13, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
Our hurlers don't seem to have a problem in their participation in a 'secondary competition'....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 13, 2022, 12:29:54 PM
First major issue with the Tailltean Cup is the timing. Far too long a break from going out of the championship until matches start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 13, 2022, 12:50:04 PM
We won the TMC in 2008, did it help with the successful 2009 / 2010 season? It certainly didn't hinder the subsequent progress. The final in '08 was a great day, kids loved it, it was part of a triple bill of qualifiers (even if our game had a ridiculously early start) and it is clear to see that it meant something to players and management.

But yeah, the GAA have made a mess of this year's inaugural Tailteann Cup. Regionalised draw is stupid and unnecessary while Larry has parachuted NY straight into the quarter finals. Next year will probably be the real test, group stages etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2022, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 13, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
Our hurlers don't seem to have a problem in their participation in a 'secondary competition'....?

Because the carrot is a winnable competition and back playing the Liam McCarthy cup..

This set up (when first mooted) didn't qualify you in playing for Sam if you won the thing, now they have changed their tune, the bonus is slightly better, the likelyhood of our lads based on previous performance is we'd have to beat Cavan to get out of the north section, million miles away from that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2022, 05:22:51 PM
I think the draw is set for Monday. Are management and players going to wait to see who we get before they decide (individually or collectively) whether or not they "fancy" it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 13, 2022, 11:03:30 PM
A lot of the u20s asked up to senior training tonight. While I'm delighted to see, it's a shame it's only the result of a few established players dropping out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2022, 11:56:23 PM
Management have a responsibility to get the counties best players out playing and performing on match day to an acceptable level. That's their sole purpose, and that's how they will be judged. Every county will lose a few here and there, we won't be the only ones in that boat.

Doors open and doors close, but the show must go on!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2022, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 13, 2022, 11:03:30 PM
A lot of the u20s asked up to senior training tonight. While I'm delighted to see, it's a shame it's only the result of a few established players dropping out.

You'll find that in most counties, no matter the competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 14, 2022, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 13, 2022, 11:03:30 PM
A lot of the u20s asked up to senior training tonight. While I'm delighted to see, it's a shame it's only the result of a few established players dropping out.

Do we know for sure what players are dropping out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 14, 2022, 08:50:46 AM
A few players may well for some reason or another may well be unable to commit but the 'Show does remain on the road..'.....trained last evening again in Dunsilly.

Hear the comments on entry back to Liam Mc Carthy is a possibility for our hurlers if the can travel the Mc Donagh road.
Good stuff, but are they any closer to an Ireland title than our footballers......only asking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2022, 09:38:32 AM
The list so far PJ, subject to correction, is.....

Oisin, Ricky, Luke,
Marty, Eunan, Jamie Mc Cann, Boyle, Heery,
and we await confirmation on the Cargin three, were they at Dunsilly last night or not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2022, 09:54:10 AM
Saffs, the more I think of it, the more outstandingly appalling it is that CK was parachuted in ahead of young Heery who is a terrific prospect. SK has responsibility for the defence, so i can only assume this is his call.

This bringing in under 20s is a bit of a joke though. I just don't get it. For sure there is a small handful who could go in and make things competitive, but can anyone tell me how a promising 18 or 19 year olds development would at this minute in time be ahead of a promising 20/21/22/23 year old who is a bit further down the road!

Or...if the plan is to unearth some youth why go for Kerr ahead of Heery? It just dosent add up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2022, 08:50:46 AM
A few players may well for some reason or another may well be unable to commit but the 'Show does remain on the road..'.....trained last evening again in Dunsilly.

Hear the comments on entry back to Liam Mc Carthy is a possibility for our hurlers if the can travel the Mc Donagh road.
Good stuff, but are they any closer to an Ireland title than our footballers......only asking.

No they'll never get to that standard and neither will the football team. So should just knock it on head...

Wiser eating grass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 14, 2022, 01:28:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2022, 09:38:32 AM
The list so far PJ, subject to correction, is.....

Oisin, Ricky, Luke,
Marty, Eunan, Jamie Mc Cann, Boyle, Heery,
and we await confirmation on the Cargin three, were they at Dunsilly last night or not?
Plenty of room for the Portglenone men who opted out before the season even started to come back Bannside. You weren't as critical of them, interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2022, 02:12:22 PM
Players can make their own call regarding how they assess their reward versus endeavour balance - in other words - is it worth it!

A rookie at 19 or 20 may stick it out a bit longer than a Marty Johnston for example who gets little game time, or a Eunan Walsh might just say feck it, I'm wasting my time here.

A manager being honest with you and not filling your head full of sweetie mice might also be helpful.

Now EOC, that's a million miles different from the yardage that the Cargin Trio have got since the minute Enda walked in the door. As I say, Is expect them to be lining out - loyalty works two ways. And I trust you have the capacity to discern between the two completely different set of circumstances.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 14, 2022, 06:33:20 PM
Minors beaten by Cavan, that's their season over. 1.16 to 0.13, Cavan goal came very late on. Sounds like a much improved performance than last week. Can't help feeling this group had a lot of potential, only the Monaghan championship game really to show for it. Fair play to squad and management, did a load of work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2022, 07:21:19 PM
Didn't get to it but sounds like a spirited performance. No doubt there are a few within the group who can kick on, and we look forward to seeing some of them again in Saffron.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2022, 07:52:38 AM
As expected the rumours regarding the non availability of the Cargin trio are inaccurate....Ioyalty is a 2way street, expect at least two of the aforementioned to be available.

Was wondering if management thought it was worthwhile inviting in Matt Fitzpatrick. The timescales involved are perfect during the soccer close season, and we have no reason to doubt his ability to perform at this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2022, 09:33:42 AM
But Cargin have five on the Antrim panel....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Westside on May 15, 2022, 11:08:00 AM
Antrim Minors pushed our lads all the way yesterday. 6 points flattered Cavan it was more of a 2/3 point game. I thought Antrim could have shown a bit more ambition though to be honest. They came with a defensive system and camped inside their own 45 for a lot of the game. Even as the game slipped away from them, they continued to ensure they had adequate cover in defence and the manager began to shout for them to push up after 60 minutes when Cavan had a comfortable lead. McCormick for Antrim was brilliant and if one of Antrim's goal chances went in we would have been in bother. Was impressed with Antrim's tackling and defensive effort. They had a few excellent ball carriers too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2022, 11:57:31 AM
If you follow the conversation here youll see that no one on here indicated that there was a doubt about the participation of Jamie or Pat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2022, 12:23:24 PM
Tiernan McCormack seems to be consistently catching the eye. I know this management team think he is top drawer. We are crying out for a couple of marquee forwards to emerge to wear the senior jersey in a couple of years. Hopefully they are in the system somewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2022, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 15, 2022, 11:57:31 AM
If you follow the conversation here youll see that no one on here indicated that there was a doubt about the participation of Jamie or Pat.
And the doubt concerning the availability of the o the three emanates from....?
Tomas with 6 kids all under 10 maybe has other commitments, but the is no questioning the availability of the other two, James and Mick....and indeed their services to club and county  and whispered remarks on favouritism since Enda took the reins is not worth comment.

Sin e.....
Quote from: bannside on May 15, 2022, 12:23:24 PM
Tiernan McCormack seems to be consistently catching the eye. I know this management team think he is top drawer. We are crying out for a couple of marquee forwards to emerge to wear the senior jersey in a couple of years. Hopefully they are in the system somewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2022, 12:52:14 PM
It emanated from posters on here previously. You'll notice I said that I expected them to be available.

If Tomas calls it a day that's his prerogative. As it is with the others who didn't commit or decided to step away. The show must go on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2022, 06:47:15 PM
As expected Rossa made life difficult for us at the Shaw's Rd and deservedly hung on for the points. A few other interesting results, performances from Ahoghill and a St Galls team that some people were doing their best to write off. Shows that most teams are capable of matching each other on any given day...no super teams around anymore.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 15, 2022, 07:06:14 PM
The ports maybe showing what a lot of people said, trained like mad over the winter now everyone else has caught up, the defeats have started.
Who wrote off St Galls, they were excellent today and deserved to win actually. Pollock and Niall O Neill the only 2 of old, the rest very young and plenty of good footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2022, 08:00:19 PM
Think BS has got to come to terms with the fact this is the league and only for warming up to events in the real world.

St Gall's reached the final of the under 20 championship last year and such would be an approved route of travel for most clubs if they aspire to better.
Think, maybe success in minor or u20/21 is requirement if you are to contemplate senior success...perhaps I am wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2022, 08:14:04 PM
They're coming out of the woodwork now. Go ahead, knock yourselves out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 16, 2022, 07:44:16 AM
Some win surely Paddyjohn, got the momentum going nicely there, hitting big scores too. Division 2 hitting up nicely, still think Moneyglass will finish top but lots of teams taking points off each other. Ballymena putting a few wins together now too. Could be interesting. Dunloy would fear no one with a full team either. All to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 16, 2022, 08:28:24 AM
Scraped a draw against a slick St galls ,they probably deserved a victory for their efforts.
If they play like that in the championship group they will make life difficult for anyone even the mighty Creggan men with their championship rings 🙂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 16, 2022, 08:46:34 AM
Carrick on Shannon it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2022, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 16, 2022, 07:44:16 AM
Some win surely Paddyjohn, got the momentum going nicely there, hitting big scores too. Division 2 hitting up nicely, still think Moneyglass will finish top but lots of teams taking points off each other. Ballymena putting a few wins together now too. Could be interesting. Dunloy would fear no one with a full team either. All to play for.

Was up at Rasharkin v Aldergrove yesterday, a nip and tuck game all the way and only for a couple of miss passes in the back line that lead to two goals Aldergrove could have won that one, but ya got to take your chances and Rasharkin did that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 16, 2022, 08:46:34 AM
Carrick on Shannon it is.

That's a good draw. (Leitrim will feel that too).

I was worried we'd get Cavan again.

Division 2 very erratic this year. I would expect the likes of Ballymena to step up a bit now - they have McAleer and Stewart playing which should be a big plus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 16, 2022, 09:31:07 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel

He was in county panel last year and the start of this year but was let go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 16, 2022, 09:31:07 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel

Apologies, wasn't aware of that

He was in county panel last year and the start of this year but was let go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2022, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel


He's been down that road last year and never got a kick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2022, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2022, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel


He's been down that road last year and never got a kick.

It's not easy being a manager, especially at county level, you are being scrutinised by everyone, it's results based, its not a popularity contest either, you've your calls to make and managers will stand and fall over their own decisions.

Having 30 players on a panel makes it very hard to give all the lads a game or 30 minutes, this year survival was important then there was a chance to actually get promoted! You will instinctively play your best team.

The McKenna cup should be used to really throw your squad plenty of games. Players like Fyfe and Walsh and others need to be involved, could think of nothing worse than training as hard as the rest but warming the bench for all the games. Yes pride in the jersey is great but only if you actually get a chance to wear it at a game.

So dammed if you do and dammed if you don't, Fyfe not getting time with the county has probably helped his club better prepare for the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:58:53 AM
I think he's been injured half the year from reading things on twitter.

Is Ross Carr still over Ardoyne? Some upturn in fortunes for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 16, 2022, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel
McGinley can give him a shout the next time Antrim are playing Ardoyne Rasharkin or Aldergrove... (oldie but goldie)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2022, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2022, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2022, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 16, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Big win for Glenravel in Div2. Cassidy has them motoring. Ardoyne winning 5 on the bounce also.

Ant that's with Eamonn Fyfe well marshalled, hardly got a look in.

TBH I think he is one guy the management could look at bringing on to the county panel


He's been down that road last year and never got a kick.

It's not easy being a manager, especially at county level, you are being scrutinised by everyone, it's results based, its not a popularity contest either, you've your calls to make and managers will stand and fall over their own decisions.

Having 30 players on a panel makes it very hard to give all the lads a game or 30 minutes, this year survival was important then there was a chance to actually get promoted! You will instinctively play your best team.

The McKenna cup should be used to really throw your squad plenty of games. Players like Fyfe and Walsh and others need to be involved, could think of nothing worse than training as hard as the rest but warming the bench for all the games. Yes pride in the jersey is great but only if you actually get a chance to wear it at a game.

So dammed if you do and dammed if you don't, Fyfe not getting time with the county has probably helped his club better prepare for the season.

He's been injured. Saw on his social media that he was in cast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 16, 2022, 10:16:26 AM
If he was so well marshalled by a Davitts player in Div2 league game where he didn't get a kick, it would be the best example to give of a player that should be brought into the county setup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 16, 2022, 02:14:23 PM
Leitrim - not the worst draw we could have got. Mid Div 3 versus Mid Div 4, although home advantage probably worth a few points to them. You can be sure they will get a crowd out too.

We lost by a point there in our last visit under Lenny, and win by a point at Corrigan last year when Tomas scored a last second winner - so 50/50 is really the best way to describe our chances.

Hopefully Enda gets the players out that he wants and gets a response out of them. A victory there will definitely raise the morale, a defeat would probably have the opposite effect, so lots to play for all round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
It's a good draw for both. Moran has put a bit of life into Leitrim football I think so it'll be a tough enough fixture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 16, 2022, 09:16:46 PM
Having witnessed first hand at the improvement in the Gall's team have to say that the championship 'group of death' is interesting.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:50:35 PM
Is shivers, senior, injured cub? I don't see him playing that much for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 16, 2022, 10:00:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:50:35 PM
Is shivers, senior, injured cub? I don't see him playing that much for you.
Was on the injury list but on the mend....no risk taking in league fare I think.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 10:07:21 PM
Thought that. Be interesting to see what he does come championship- seems to have suffered a lot from injuries this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on May 17, 2022, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 10:07:21 PM
Thought that. Be interesting to see what he does come championship- seems to have suffered a lot from injuries this year.

If I recall he spent most of last season injured as well with a hamy. Hear Mick is out injured for 5/6 weeks to. Antrim getting no luck here at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 17, 2022, 10:14:46 AM
As I told BS Mick&Tomas not available ,Big Pat probably a few weeks away from peak fitness,Hearing pollock been called up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2022, 11:08:00 AM
Fair enough Lar.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 17, 2022, 10:14:46 AM
As I told BS Mick&Tomas not available ,Big Pat probably a few weeks away from peak fitness,Hearing pollock been called up

I'm at a loss with all the changing of the squads, so tell me this, what size of panel did they have at the Cavan game? How many are left and what's the craic with bringing in players who haven't trained all year with the squad?

What's left should be used and some loyalty shown for their efforts over the preseason and league campaign, would be my approach anyways..

Granted a position like goalkeeper is slightly different, Chris should only be back up to the second keeper
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 17, 2022, 02:23:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 17, 2022, 10:14:46 AM
As I told BS Mick&Tomas not available ,Big Pat probably a few weeks away from peak fitness,Hearing pollock been called up

I'm at a loss with all the changing of the squads, so tell me this, what size of panel did they have at the Cavan game? How many are left and what's the craic with bringing in players who haven't trained all year with the squad?

What's left should be used and some loyalty shown for their efforts over the preseason and league campaign, would be my approach anyways..

Granted a position like goalkeeper is slightly different, Chris should only be back up to the second keeper

Agree, you should stick by the lads that have been with you all year and not be dipping into guys outside that panel.

Unless you have some star player who maybe has been injured so far.

Bit of a kick in the teeth to some of the fringe players who have put the hours in on the training pitch if Pollock comes in and gets time ahead of them.

If you are needing numbers to pad out the squad for drop outs surely it would be better to bring in younger players to give them the experience of being with the senior panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 18, 2022, 11:24:58 AM
That new club that started in NBelfast, i can never remember their name, are they still going? Have the played any matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 18, 2022, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 18, 2022, 11:24:58 AM
That new club that started in NBelfast, i can never remember their name, are they still going? Have the played any matches?

you mean Wolfe Tones?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 18, 2022, 01:11:14 PM
no,not wolf tones, there was another one started, around north belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on May 18, 2022, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 18, 2022, 01:11:14 PM
no,not wolf tones, there was another one started, around north belfast.

Henry Joy's - hurling club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2022, 09:25:13 AM
I've heard nothing G&T. You're grapevine may be better than mine though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 19, 2022, 06:41:02 PM
Four Cargin men heading stateside start of June seems to be the in thing this year 😳
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 19, 2022, 09:21:39 PM
Fair played to them. Great experience for any young lad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2022, 10:11:41 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 19, 2022, 06:41:02 PM
Four Cargin men heading stateside start of June seems to be the in thing this year 😳

Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 20, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 19, 2022, 06:41:02 PM
Four Cargin men heading stateside start of June seems to be the in thing this year 😳

Any chance half a dozen Creggan men could do the same before the championship  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2022, 09:29:26 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 20, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 19, 2022, 06:41:02 PM
Four Cargin men heading stateside start of June seems to be the in thing this year 😳

Any chance half a dozen Creggan men could do the same before the championship  ;D

Sure they'll all be back for championship, well that's the way it used to be.. Great to see lads heading out and getting a few bob on top! Wildwood was a great experience also, so the likes of Philly and New York and beyond will be a great place to play a bitta football (the standard will be high enough) and enjoy the craic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 09:52:15 AM
Are there not restrictions that you can't play here if you play in the states now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 20, 2022, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on May 19, 2022, 06:41:02 PM
Four Cargin men heading stateside start of June seems to be the in thing this year 😳

Most clubs will have lads heading to USA this summer. Who can blame them after the last 2 years we've had. Let them go out and enjoy themselves and earn a few quid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2022, 10:24:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 09:52:15 AM
Are there not restrictions that you can't play here if you play in the states now?

Not sure but at county level you were not able to do both come championship, you either played championship and couldn't go to the States or you didnt play championship and headed off.

I heard New York had other rules, not sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 20, 2022, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2022, 10:24:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 09:52:15 AM
Are there not restrictions that you can't play here if you play in the states now?

Not sure but at county level you were not able to do both come championship, you either played championship and couldn't go to the States or you didnt play championship and headed off.

I heard New York had other rules, not sure

Must be different for club players then as I'm aware of a number of players heading out next week and all are intending to return for club c'ship in September/Oct.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
Was at minor game Moneyglass v Con Magees today great game...
Was very impressed by the man in the middle Patrick Tumelty from Lamh Dhearg....
Wonder why I have never seen him in action before...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
Was at minor game Moneyglass v Con Magees today great game...
Was very impressed by the man in the middle Patrick Tumelty from Lamh Dhearg....
Wonder why I have never seen him in action before...?

Played senior football for years with Lamhs..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 22, 2022, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 22, 2022, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
Was at minor game Moneyglass v Con Magees today great game...
Was very impressed by the man in the middle Patrick Tumelty from Lamh Dhearg....
Wonder why I have never seen him in action before...?
You probably thought he was somebody else.

Behave ffs and have some respect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 22, 2022, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 22, 2022, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
Was at minor game Moneyglass v Con Magees today great game...
Was very impressed by the man in the middle Patrick Tumelty from Lamh Dhearg....
Wonder why I have never seen him in action before...?
You probably thought he was somebody else.

Think that is your own good self...


Behave ffs and have some respect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 09:56:08 PM
Is some one else a 'man in the middle...?

Of course I have seen Paddy Tumelty in action for the Hannahstown men.
But wonder why he has not been seen on the 'senior, division one circut'.
Excellent ref....






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 09:56:08 PM
Is some one else a 'man in the middle...?

Of course I have seen Paddy Tumelty in action for the Hannahstown men.
But wonder why he has not been seen on the 'senior, division one circut'.
Excellent ref....

Has been for few seasons now..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 09:56:08 PM
Is some one else a 'man in the middle...?

Of course I have seen Paddy Tumelty in action for the Hannahstown men.
But wonder why he has not been seen on the 'senior, division one circut'.
Excellent ref....

Has been for few seasons now..
Has never been inn the middle in Toome I can remember...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 22, 2022, 09:56:08 PM
Is some one else a 'man in the middle...?

Of course I have seen Paddy Tumelty in action for the Hannahstown men.
But wonder why he has not been seen on the 'senior, division one circut'.
Excellent ref....

Has been for few seasons now..
Has never been inn the middle in Toome I can remember...

You obviously didn't make it to the Gort na Mona game this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 22, 2022, 10:21:11 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/06/11/cargin-prove-too-good-for-rossa/amp/

Who wrote this?   ???

Aul age is a curse
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2022, 07:38:17 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 22, 2022, 10:21:11 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/06/11/cargin-prove-too-good-for-rossa/amp/

Cannot recall.....that one....

Must have been 'somebody else' hiding his identity in plain sight.....









Who wrote this?   ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2022, 07:39:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 22, 2022, 10:21:11 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/06/11/cargin-prove-too-good-for-rossa/amp/

Who wrote this?   ???


Aul age is a curse

Indeed it is.....but so is utter arrogance.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 08:40:33 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 23, 2022, 07:39:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 22, 2022, 10:21:11 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/06/11/cargin-prove-too-good-for-rossa/amp/

Who wrote this?   ???


Aul age is a curse

Indeed it is.....but so is utter arrogance.....

Dry your eyes wee bitta banter and you throw your toys out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2022, 10:30:39 AM
Doesn't take much to get people going here
All he said was it was a good refereeing performance, which it was, I was at it myself
When no coaches or spectators from either club are questioning any decisions its a good sign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2022, 10:30:39 AM
Doesn't take much to get people going here
All he said was it was a good refereeing performance, which it was, I was at it myself
When no coaches or spectators from either club are questioning any decisions its a good sign.

Yeah I think its a great idea and well done CB for adding that on the end of the report, to actually give credit where its due, and when the referees have a great game it should be noted in the reports, first time I've seen it and hopefully not the last.

The 'craic' was he said he never seen him, not harm in having a laugh, anyone taking it too thick here is lining themselves  up for more 'banter'

On that, I'd a day off yesterday and was able to watch our seniors for a change, and the referee was great also, Barry Winters was very good and consistent with his calls, And Colm had a blinder at Headquarters in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2022, 11:16:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2022, 10:30:39 AM
Doesn't take much to get people going here
All he said was it was a good refereeing performance, which it was, I was at it myself
When no coaches or spectators from either club are questioning any decisions its a good sign.

Yeah I think its a great idea and well done CB for adding that on the end of the report, to actually give credit where its due, and when the referees have a great game it should be noted in the reports, first time I've seen it and hopefully not the last.

The 'craic' was he said he never seen him, not harm in having a laugh, anyone taking it too thick here is lining themselves  up for more 'banter'

On that, I'd a day off yesterday and was able to watch our seniors for a change, and the referee was great also, Barry Winters was very good and consistent with his calls, And Colm had a blinder at Headquarters in the final.

Was an ex clubmate of Colms not playing for one the teams ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2022, 11:16:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2022, 10:30:39 AM
Doesn't take much to get people going here
All he said was it was a good refereeing performance, which it was, I was at it myself
When no coaches or spectators from either club are questioning any decisions its a good sign.

Yeah I think its a great idea and well done CB for adding that on the end of the report, to actually give credit where its due, and when the referees have a great game it should be noted in the reports, first time I've seen it and hopefully not the last.

The 'craic' was he said he never seen him, not harm in having a laugh, anyone taking it too thick here is lining themselves  up for more 'banter'

On that, I'd a day off yesterday and was able to watch our seniors for a change, and the referee was great also, Barry Winters was very good and consistent with his calls, And Colm had a blinder at Headquarters in the final.

Was an ex clubmate of Colms not playing for one the teams ?

Mate and ex club would be a bit far fetched to be honest, Colm is originally from McDermotts and never played for us, or I've no recollection of it, and CJ is playing for a different club in a different county. be like me refereeing against a ex clubmate here in Antrim, that happens. Sure he even gave him a booking for the usual  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:23:52 AM
Who are the favourites for the senior championship this year, if big pat shivers is back to his best for it cargin be hard bate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 25, 2022, 01:03:04 PM
when is championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 25, 2022, 01:03:04 PM
when is championship?
August im near sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 26, 2022, 10:46:30 AM
Attended a well contested Mac Namee cup final (yes it is a hurling game.

CPB proved winners over St Pats Maghera and was surprised to see an Antrim referee in the middle.

Is that the way it is....no neutrality in hurling....

Yes I had a grandson playing for St Pats....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 26, 2022, 10:46:30 AM
Attended a well contested Mac Namee cup final (yes it is a hurling game.

CPB proved winners over St Pats Maghera and was surprised to see an Antrim referee in the middle.

Is that the way it is....no neutrality in hurling....

Yes I had a grandson playing for St Pats....

Both schools have to agree on the ref for the likes of those competitions, was it a Belfast ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.

I'd have thought a 50/50 game considering the dropouts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:36:39 PM
Yea we've had a few dropouts but sure that's why managers call in 30 players at the start of the year. There's will always be one or two walk aways or injuries. Most counties will be experiencing the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on May 26, 2022, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 26, 2022, 10:46:30 AM
Attended a well contested Mac Namee cup final (yes it is a hurling game.

CPB proved winners over St Pats Maghera and was surprised to see an Antrim referee in the middle.

Is that the way it is....no neutrality in hurling....

Yes I had a grandson playing for St Pats....

Both schools have to agree on the ref for the likes of those competitions, was it a Belfast ref?

A good few Down refs live in Belfast, just saying like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 26, 2022, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 26, 2022, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 26, 2022, 10:46:30 AM
Attended a well contested Mac Namee cup final (yes it is a hurling game.

CPB proved winners over St Pats Maghera and was surprised to see an Antrim referee in the middle.

Is that the way it is....no neutrality in hurling....

Yes I had a grandson playing for St Pats....

Both schools have to agree on the ref for the likes of those competitions, was it a Belfast ref?

A good few Down refs live in Belfast, just saying like.

Was the boss of refs ......and I cannot comment on his performance.....pleading the 5th.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Lets hope for an Antrim win, we could do with a boost. The way things have turned out with Leitrim at home its a 50/50
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 26, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Is this the same referee's boss who overseen a mini riot in the minor game between MGlass and St Brigids?

Quote from: EOC1923 on May 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Lets hope for an Antrim win, we could do with a boost. The way things have turned out with Leitrim at home its a 50/50
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 26, 2022, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 26, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Is this the same referee's boss who overseen a mini riot in the minor game between MGlass and St Brigids?


Was indeed........the ref who was in the middle in that one....

Did not hear about 'mini riot.'.......
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Lets hope for an Antrim win, we could do with a boost. The way things have turned out with Leitrim at home its a 50/50
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2022, 06:54:18 PM
Agree, it's 50/50. Never much between these teams, and I'm not convinced Antrim have improved as much as some people think. Be happy to toast a victory of any kind on Saturday night and move into the quarters with some kind of momentum.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 26, 2022, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:36:39 PM
Yea we've had a few dropouts but sure that's why managers call in 30 players at the start of the year. There's will always be one or two walk aways or injuries. Most counties will be experiencing the same.

Anyone know for certain who has dropped off and who has come in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 26, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Is this the same referee's boss who overseen a mini riot in the minor game between MGlass and St Brigids?

Quote from: EOC1923 on May 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Lets hope for an Antrim win, we could do with a boost. The way things have turned out with Leitrim at home its a 50/50

Some craic with the ref battering...

Obviously haven't read the book, how to win friends and influence people for dummies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2022, 11:28:19 PM
Saffron Gael has an interview with Enda and the list of in and outs is fairly well covered.

It will start 15 v 15 and that's what matters. There's no point in talking about who's not there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 27, 2022, 08:21:28 AM
So we do have a good few referees in our county who are very good I deed at their chosen profession.
But sorry to say that we also employ a few 'who have huge egos' and are not as proficient..

In fact they would suggest that those onlookers who do 'spot the difference as being 'a bit soft in the head'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 27, 2022, 09:40:44 AM
Ah come on MR2 it is a bit of baiting nothing else

Reffing I have no doubt is the toughest job on the pitch with the least amount of thanks or praise. Those who think you boys do it for the money are not near it, you would get more working in a Spar or a bar for a few hours than for reffing

Keep up the average work  ;)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 26, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Is this the same referee's boss who overseen a mini riot in the minor game between MGlass and St Brigids?

Quote from: EOC1923 on May 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Lets hope for an Antrim win, we could do with a boost. The way things have turned out with Leitrim at home its a 50/50

Some craic with the ref battering...

Obviously haven't read the book, how to win friends and influence people for dummies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 27, 2022, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 11:28:19 PM
Saffron Gael has an interview with Enda and the list of in and outs is fairly well covered.

It will start 15 v 15 and that's what matters. There's no point in talking about who's not there.

Thats a significant level of absentees....hard to see how it won't have impact on performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 27, 2022, 02:37:36 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 27, 2022, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 11:28:19 PM
Saffron Gael has an interview with Enda and the list of in and outs is fairly well covered.

It will start 15 v 15 and that's what matters. There's no point in talking about who's not there.
Do some boys tink they are too good for?
Thats a significant level of absentees....hard to see how it won't have impact on performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2022, 02:44:35 PM
I have a feeling Leitrim will beat us but hope I am very wrong.

Tbf a lot are injuries too. Massive time commitment if you believe the tournament is a waste of time which many from many counties do.

Still if it could get us a win or two and build a bit of confidence back it would be great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2022, 03:40:56 PM
As far as I know there is really only one person missing because of injury. And every county will have one or two on the treatment table.

This is a 50/50 game that we need to be winning..are Antrim too big NOT to be placing some kind of priority on this? Or are we now saying the Tailltean Cup is above a realistic aspiration too? I mean should Leitrim be taking it more seriously than us, and if so WHY?

Go win the game and see where it takes us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 27, 2022, 03:44:05 PM
If only one is really injured who are the others who are feigning injury/using it as an excuse?

Quote from: bannside on May 27, 2022, 03:40:56 PM
As far as I know there is really only one person missing because of injury. And every county will have one or two on the treatment table.

This is a 50/50 game that we need to be winning..are Antrim too big NOT to be placing some kind of priority on this? Or are we now saying the Tailltean Cup is above a realistic aspiration too? I mean should Leitrim be taking it more seriously than us, and if so WHY?

Go win the game and see where it takes us!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 27, 2022, 04:09:24 PM
it is a real pity the GAA didnt try to hype the competition up correctly.  Has started off on the wrong foot already.   it was sold as a Joe McDonagh but delivered as a Tommy Murphy.  Hopefully next year they'll try a bit harder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2022, 04:11:55 PM
Mick's out because of injury, don't think there are any others missing for this reason!

According to the SG article Enda is very impressed with what the 5 x under 20s have brought to the squad. He's the man who makes the calls....be interesting to see if any of them feature tomorrow.

I'm in two minds about going. Long drive there and back with it being televised! Really wouldn't mind seeing the starting team, that might help make the mind up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 27, 2022, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 27, 2022, 03:44:05 PM
If only one is really injured who are the others who are feigning injury/using it as an excuse?

Quote from: bannside on May 27, 2022, 03:40:56 PM
As far as I know there is really only one person missing because of injury. And every county will have one or two on the treatment table.

This is a 50/50 game that we need to be winning..are Antrim too big NOT to be placing some kind of priority on this? Or are we now saying the Tailltean Cup is above a realistic aspiration too? I mean should Leitrim be taking it more seriously than us, and if so WHY?

Go win the game and see where it takes us!
Cant understand why those younger lads mentioned have left, would of been a good opportunity to make a name for themselves / establish themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 27, 2022, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 27, 2022, 04:09:24 PM
it is a real pity the GAA didnt try to hype the competition up correctly.  Has started off on the wrong foot already.   it was sold as a Joe McDonagh but delivered as a Tommy Murphy.  Hopefully next year they'll try a bit harder

In one way, they had a press day with players from the participating counties and loads of interviews were done with the media - written and spoken etc. No issue with that.

In a way, it's a 'secondary' competition - and outhwith the respective counties, there mightn't be much interest until the semi-final stage.  Various counties have a sense of entitlement unfortunately but this is where they're atso the games should be 50/50.

On the other hand, the GAA should have had the cup ready for the PR or involve kids from the counties in its design etc.  Also winners should get a free trip to New York or somewhere - before Christmas just an incentive for the players.

Maybe winners to get automatic to next years Sam Maguire or more incentives.

Or play ithe final before the AIF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 27, 2022, 05:29:07 PM
Give the winners a route back into the All Ireland series.

A play off with one of the quarter finalists. Would take a slight reshuffle of the calendar, but could work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2022, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 27, 2022, 09:40:44 AM
Ah come on MR2 it is a bit of baiting nothing else

Reffing I have no doubt is the toughest job on the pitch with the least amount of thanks or praise. Those who think you boys do it for the money are not near it, you would get more working in a Spar or a bar for a few hours than for reffing

Keep up the average work  ;)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2022, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 26, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Is this the same referee's boss who overseen a mini riot in the minor game between MGlass and St Brigids?

Quote from: EOC1923 on May 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2022, 12:19:06 PM
Any thoughts on our contest with Leitrim on Saturday? See PP have us as firm favourites at 4/7.
Lets hope for an Antrim win, we could do with a boost. The way things have turned out with Leitrim at home its a 50/50

Some craic with the ref battering...

Obviously haven't read the book, how to win friends and influence people for dummies

Money, I'd earn more money in a weeks work than on the pitch over the year, it's not for money lol.. add in fuel costs and time away from watching you're own club or family, that not even counting the abuse ;D...

Keeping telling people 'who know best' try it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 27, 2022, 11:27:39 PM
Going to head down to carrick on Shannon, more in hope than expectation if I'm honest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2022, 11:28:01 AM
Fair play Saffs, enjoy, hope the journey home is a happy one. I'm setting for the tv this time round.. hopefully there will be another day out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 28, 2022, 02:16:15 PM
Some very bad wides so far. Not a fluent start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2022, 02:22:14 PM
I don't like the look of this so far :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2022, 02:33:27 PM
Turning into a hammering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 28, 2022, 03:11:20 PM
Shooting is just dire. What happened to this team from Louth match onwards? They look bereft of confidence, shape, system. Shivers is doing very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2022, 03:15:03 PM
 :(

At least the camogs are winning. (Though they look to be in a tight game)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 28, 2022, 03:21:02 PM
Haha Pat Shivers lost a boot! 😂😂

Wise up PRO ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 28, 2022, 03:37:38 PM
Cleaned out completely in the middle....from start to finish....

Big Pat about the only man to hold his head high...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 28, 2022, 03:51:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.

Duneane massive.....why..?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 28, 2022, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.

Aye not sure WTF duneane has got to do with McGinley
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 28, 2022, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 28, 2022, 03:11:20 PM
Shooting is just dire. What happened to this team from Louth match onwards? They look bereft of confidence, shape, system. Shivers is doing very well.
I don't think anything happened to the team other than reality kicked in once we faced a couple of decent teams.  We are a Junior Championship team and it's a pity the GAA didn't create junior, intermediate and senior for us to find our level.  How could we be anything else at Senior county grade when our underage teams fizzle out year after year. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.
Entitled to your opinion, if that's E McG's last hurrah not even the biggest begrudgers can deny he left Antrim footballers in a higher place than he found them, that's a fact.
Very open at the back today, Pat played well, some nice points. Overall disappointing end to the season.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.
Entitled to your opinion, if that's E McG's last hurrah not even the biggest begrudgers can deny he left Antrim footballers in a higher place than he found them, that's a fact.
Very open at the back today, Pat played well, some nice points. Overall disappointing end to the season.
Fair point.
Although, off the back of 2 tankings from Division 4 teams, it's hard to argue that we are now a better team than when he took over.
Better organised? Further down the road on conditioning? Improved strategy?

How many things have improved on his watch? Indeed, have some things gone backwards?
The division we are in being the main one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.
Entitled to your opinion, if that's E McG's last hurrah not even the biggest begrudgers can deny he left Antrim footballers in a higher place than he found them, that's a fact.
Very open at the back today, Pat played well, some nice points. Overall disappointing end to the season.
Fair point.
Although, off the back of 2 tankings from Division 4 teams, it's hard to argue that we are now a better team than when he took over.
Better organised? Further down the road on conditioning? Improved strategy?

How many things have improved on his watch? Indeed, have some things gone backwards?
The division we are in being the main one
I don't know much info but iv a feeling that will be his last game, Bannside who is your proposal to take us forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2022, 05:30:21 PM
I would expect management to do the right thing, and when, or if this happens we should be free to have a discussion about next steps. Until then I think we should maintain some dignity and allow Enda and Co space to think things through.

They will be hurting more than anyone, and no one here should take any pleasure in seeing the recent demise of what was once looking promising. Let's see how the next few days pan out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 28, 2022, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 05:15:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.
Entitled to your opinion, if that's E McG's last hurrah not even the biggest begrudgers can deny he left Antrim footballers in a higher place than he found them, that's a fact.
Very open at the back today, Pat played well, some nice points. Overall disappointing end to the season.
Fair point.
Although, off the back of 2 tankings from Division 4 teams, it's hard to argue that we are now a better team than when he took over.
Better organised? Further down the road on conditioning? Improved strategy?

How many things have improved on his watch? Indeed, have some things gone backwards?
The division we are in being the main one
I don't know much info but iv a feeling that will be his last game, Bannside who is your proposal to take us forward.
Who is over Swatragh at the minute?

D
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 28, 2022, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 28, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 28, 2022, 02:37:08 PM
McGinley has to go
I suppose if you were looking logically at it, you could arrive at that suggestion. I imagine if someone else in Antrim had have been over a team that served up such dung in a championship then the calls for his departure would have been from every corner.
Indeed, you may even say that someone so inexperienced should never have been given the task.

Logic, however, is not to be expected from the Duneane massive and he'll be backed and backed again.
Entitled to your opinion, if that's E McG's last hurrah not even the biggest begrudgers can deny he left Antrim footballers in a higher place than he found them, that's a fact.
Very open at the back today, Pat played well, some nice points. Overall disappointing end to the season.



D I E.....May well have been 'somebody else's who chipped in with the 'Duneane massive' comment....

Dare to clarify....

But to those who have been poking the present management  in the eye for a time just who are those brave souls who are lining up looking for the Antrim job if it does become vacant...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2022, 07:14:36 PM
When appropriate there is plenty of time to have that discussion. And we won't be managerless, let's put it that way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 28, 2022, 10:23:35 PM
Will we see you don the bib BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 28, 2022, 10:35:00 PM
That boat has long sailed PJ! Today a sad day though, Antrims reputation as the country's most spectacular embarrassment in senior football was re-established after a few months of delusion. No one taking any satisfaction in this whatsoever. Pat Spillane will have his usual Sunday Game rant one more time, if he could even be arsed this time . Of course this isn't all Enda Mc Ginleys fault. The fault lines are evidenced long before it gets to that level.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 29, 2022, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 28, 2022, 07:14:36 PM
When appropriate there is plenty of time to have that discussion. And we won't be managerless, let's put it that way.

I want to be fair to McGinley as he deserves at least that but I would question if anything has advanced in his two years. Antrim took a risk in appointing a young man with little coaching experience who clearly was learning on the job.

I agree with BS in that the problems are much more deep rooted than the performance levels of the senior side but if you look at senior results in isolation then there has been little or no progress. Admittedly I only saw two games thus year but certainly what we were producing this year was pretty poor. Today was the final nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2022, 08:28:46 AM
Agree with all of that. It's really disappointing this didn't work out, and tbh the writing was on the wall a long way off.

I wonder why James Laverty and Conor Murray didn't start yesterday. Two players on top of their game and in great form. That was surprising - particularly as they both provide much needed leadership as well in defence and attack. Maybe they were injured or something I don't know about.

The walkways (in particular Ricky Eunan and Marty who would all start on my team) didn't help, but they had their reasons for doing so, like players before that, and you have to respect that if they are not being used. Man management is part of the gig and obviously this was not handled well.

Pat Shivers landing 4 points was a plus, but why was Ryan out around the middle third doing the donkey work when he is an obvious scoring presence. For me anyway Two Murray's with Pat would have given us much more bite in the final third - something that has been badly lacking all year.

This is the most basic kind of stuff. Far too much of it is lacking though and that is always going to be punished at this level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 29, 2022, 08:52:49 AM
You got your wish , a young antrim team starting.    And then you got your answer which is we are a div 3 / 4 team and squad.  Delusional if you think we are Div 2 material.    People got on Enda's back following a defeat to a clearly superior Limerick side and now the snipers are out in full force  despite getting the team they wanted.     

Time to wake up.     Possibly enda will go following the negative campaign to oust him here and the lack of goodwill from those who are either deluded or have their personal axes to grind.   We stayed in Div 3. We should have seen that as job done as it has been a while since that happened and suddenly people have lost the run of themselves.     

Everyone can constructively criticise but now it just sounds like personal agenda attacks.   

As usual we in Antrim are looking the lazy quick fix solution  and blaming everyone but ourselves for the status of our squad talent.         If enda goes, the next manager will get the same treatment. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: Spike on May 29, 2022, 08:52:49 AM
You got your wish , a young antrim team starting.    And then you got your answer which is we are a div 3 / 4 team and squad.  Delusional if you think we are Div 2 material.    People got on Enda's back following a defeat to a clearly superior Limerick side and now the snipers are out in full force  despite getting the team they wanted.     

Time to wake up.     Possibly enda will go following the negative campaign to oust him here and the lack of goodwill from those who are either deluded or have their personal axes to grind.   We stayed in Div 3. We should have seen that as job done as it has been a while since that happened and suddenly people have lost the run of themselves.     

Everyone can constructively criticise but now it just sounds like personal agenda attacks.   

As usual we in Antrim are looking the lazy quick fix solution  and blaming everyone but ourselves for the status of our squad talent.         If enda goes, the next manager will get the same treatment.

Totally agree Spike....and negativity from within comes from experts who have led their respective clubs, or in fact from any club to a county championship.
Notts hands in the air if Mc Ginley does call it a day.

Just have a look within. The Antrim senior title has been shared between a couple of clubs in the past six years.
Did the present management who have all the experience of positivity on the All Ireland trail miss out in spotting talented individuals......don't think so.

We do have a cherished tradition of manager kicking over the years, Enda follows a trail involving Lenny , Baker, Fitzy, John Morrison, Whitey, etc, etc, etc.....

We would need to get a grip and concentrate on raising the profile within the club scene...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 29, 2022, 09:25:01 AM
Enda is certainly not to blame. The players aren't there for a start. But the problems are everywhere from coaching, underage county setups, college football.... The list is endless. The odd half decent run every 20 years is all we have seen. Everyone on here is a GAA man but that interest isn't reflective within the general public in antrim. Most areas and people in antrim couldn't care or have a passing interest in GAA. Compare that to Tyrone, Derry etc They're obsessed with GAA. A lot of money needs spent in promoting GAA in antrim and the Gaelfast project isn't even going to scratch the surface.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 29, 2022, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: ck on May 29, 2022, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 28, 2022, 07:14:36 PM
When appropriate there is plenty of time to have that discussion. And we won't be managerless, let's put it that way.

I want to be fair to McGinley as he deserves at least that but I would question if anything has advanced in his two years. Antrim took a risk in appointing a young man with little coaching experience who clearly was learning on the job.

I agree with BS in that the problems are much more deep rooted than the performance levels of the senior side but if you look at senior results in isolation then there has been little or no progress. Admittedly I only saw two games thus year but certainly what we were producing this year was pretty poor. Today was the final nail in the coffin.

Is it a mentality issue?

On this board, there just seems to be constant bikering - is that an indication of Antrim Gaa in general?

Look at Fermanagh, who have probably 1/2 the players are pushing on and competing at a reasaonable and consistent level on a yearly basis.

Historically, well for 30 / 40 years haven't bridged many gaps at inter-county level - so what's the problems/issues?

Outwith the fantastic St. Galls team, in club football, the champions don't register at Ulster level - minor or senior.

The hurlers seem to have their house in order - competing at their league level and hopefully win the Joe Mc Donagh next Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2022, 11:22:54 AM
The question here is simply - is the current management equipped to get their house back in order in time for next year?  Nothing to do with how many Cargin players are on the panel, or who is asking the question! Or how good the management trio were as players, because that guarantees nothing.

Spike, agree, we arnt division two material, or if we squeezed up for a year we would probably come straight back down. But I don't expect us to get torn apart by division four teams either. Yesterday Leitrim toyed with us, they were 12 up and took their foot off the pedal, and still missed 1 -05 in the last ten minutes. Make no mistake, Antrim were a shambles yesterday. It's going to be really hard to retrieve that situation I think, and it's only normal that hard questions are bring asked.

If it was Dawson or Gormley they would be asked, yes/no?

Regarding age, as Mick proved, it is no barrier. If you're good enough age dosent matter! Give youth a fling if they are ripping the place up in training. If not they should join the queue. If we have a Michael Murphy or Paddy Mc Brearty in our midst at 17 I must have missed it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 11:47:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 29, 2022, 11:22:54 AM
The question here is simply - is the current management equipped to get their house back in order in time for next year?  Nothing to do with how many Cargin players are on the panel, or who is asking the question! Or how good the management trio were as players, because that guarantees nothing.

Spike, agree, we arnt division two material, or if we squeezed up for a year we would probably come straight back down. But I don't expect us to get torn apart by division four teams either. Yesterday Leitrim toyed with us, they were 12 up and took their foot off the pedal, and still missed 1 -05 in the last ten minutes. Make no mistake, Antrim were a shambles yesterday. It's going to be really hard to retrieve that situation I think, and it's only normal that hard questions are bring asked.

If it was Dawson or Gormley they would be asked, yes/no?

Regarding age, as Mick proved, it is no barrier. If you're good enough age dosent matter! Give youth a fling if they are ripping the place up in training. If not they should join the queue. If we have a Michael Murphy or Paddy Mc Brearty in our midst at 17 I must have missed it.
No I am afraid are we able to supply any manager the players equipped to deal with life in the Saffron in which ever division......
See them all and afraid we are not blessed with a suitable supply of players....who mentioned Cargin...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 29, 2022, 11:51:15 AM
You wanted the kids to get a chance and they got it.  Now you're complaining about the result, and in a competition no one gives a toss about.  Whatever way its spun it comes down to lack of talent and squad depth.  We would have taken div 3 survival  at the start of the year now our expectations have gone so far past that we've lost the run of ourselves.    We are in no place to scoff at div 4 teams, God knows we spent long enough down there to realise it was a nightmare to get out of.   




    Some of us need to look at ourselves and see our contributions to the cause in the latter half of the season.    Derry finished poorly yet the supporters got behind them because they saw progress.  We piled on and slaughtered the management team and now any goodwill has gone.        Enda is an up and coming manager learning his trade and has made progress - competed for div 2 promotion is massive from where we were when he took over.   We can't pay for the established managers nor their backroom staff.  Hes working with a county and squad 10 years behind in player development, physique, decision making and mental fortitude.     

Lazy and quick fix attitudes are why Antrim are the way we are.      I won't be surprised if enda leaves.  Goodwill has gone and nothing less than div 2 promotion will sate the hurlers from the ditch on here.  And we are nowhere near div 2 ready.     Staying in div 3 looks to be the aim already for next year along with a massive physical conditioning programme.   Time to catch ourselves on. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 12:03:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 29, 2022, 11:51:15 AM
You wanted the kids to get a chance and they got it.  Now you're complaining about the result, and in a competition no one gives a toss about.  Whatever way its spun it comes down to lack of talent and squad depth.  We would have taken div 3 survival  at the start of the year now our expectations have gone so far past that we've lost the run of ourselves.    We are in no place to scoff at div 4 teams, God knows we spent long enough down there to realise it was a nightmare to get out of.   




    Some of us need to look at ourselves and see our contributions to the cause in the latter half of the season.    Derry finished poorly yet the supporters got behind them because they saw progress.  We piled on and slaughtered the management team and now any goodwill has gone.        Enda is an up and coming manager learning his trade and has made progress - competed for div 2 promotion is massive from where we were when he took over.   We can't pay for the established managers nor their backroom staff.  Hes working with a county and squad 10 years behind in player development, physique, decision making and mental fortitude.     

Lazy and quick fix attitudes are why Antrim are the way we are.      I won't be surprised if enda leaves.  Goodwill has gone and nothing less than div 2 promotion will sate the hurlers from the ditch on here.  And we are nowhere near div 2 ready.     Staying in div 3 looks to be the aim already for next year along with a massive physical conditioning programme.   Time to catch ourselves on.

Sin e...Spike....

Some within want us to swim an ocean when.most in our county who have not been taught how to swim......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 12:03:46 PM
So can we stop blaming managers? In the past it was open house on managers and it's great to see, refreshing in fact. So let's keep that attitude going forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 29, 2022, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2022, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: ck on May 29, 2022, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 28, 2022, 07:14:36 PM
When appropriate there is plenty of time to have that discussion. And we won't be managerless, let's put it that way.

I want to be fair to McGinley as he deserves at least that but I would question if anything has advanced in his two years. Antrim took a risk in appointing a young man with little coaching experience who clearly was learning on the job.

I agree with BS in that the problems are much more deep rooted than the performance levels of the senior side but if you look at senior results in isolation then there has been little or no progress. Admittedly I only saw two games thus year but certainly what we were producing this year was pretty poor. Today was the final nail in the coffin.

Is it a mentality issue?

On this board, there just seems to be constant bikering - is that an indication of Antrim Gaa in general?

Look at Fermanagh, who have probably 1/2 the players are pushing on and competing at a reasaonable and consistent level on a yearly basis.

Historically, well for 30 / 40 years haven't bridged many gaps at inter-county level - so what's the problems/issues?

Outwith the fantastic St. Galls team, in club football, the champions don't register at Ulster level - minor or senior.

The hurlers seem to have their house in order - competing at their league level and hopefully win the Joe Mc Donagh next Saturday evening.

The hurlers are still within a million years of competing for All Irelands though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 29, 2022, 12:40:39 PM
Duine, stand by it. Lenny made zero progress.....and Lennybisnt coming back.  So thanks for the constructive contribution

Hope spending the morning searching my old posts was worth it, you won't get that time back.  Safe to say Enda has a better CV than you. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 29, 2022, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 29, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Hold on a minute before people start losing the run of themselves.

Andy Moran took over a Leitrim team that hadn't won a match of any kind in 2020 or 2021. He had no management experience either. He didn't have ten years of optimum physical or mental preparation of his players. He wasn't able to fall back on any tradition of success in Leitrim schools.

But what he did get was the basics right. And from a coaching or technical perspective Enda isn't. Our defence is a complete shambles. We have no threat up front. Players are being played completely out of position. I can't comment on man management but can someone explain why so many walk aways?

All we ask for is to get the basics right. But we are not. We arnt demanding success, or promotion to Div 2. That's lazy narrative. What we do expect is to be COMPETITIVE in our grade, and on our last 4 showings this has been AWOL.

If we had lost to Louth Westmeath Cavan or Leitrim by a few points here or there, but were competitive (or unlucky - it happens) then there's a good chance we wouldn't even be having this discussion. But that's not the case...and even Enda loyalists know this. 

Back to the question. Has the bubble burst or not?

Safe to say both yours and my knowledge of the inners workings and talents of Leitrim football wouldnt be worth much BS. 

Yes the bubble has burst and for all the usual reasons of which laziness is at the forefront. 

If a grown man at 25 years of age cant do the basic skills, spent time getting the correct physique nor use correct decision making, then enda, micky harte nor Jim gavin is going to sort that out. 

Most likely we are looking for a new manager now so who is the options and will you (BS) be putting your name into the hat?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 12:50:19 PM
And Baker took us to Division two....and within a few minutes of beatning Kerry....but we couldn't wait to see the back of him.
Both John Morrison and Brian White had us on the positive trail....same.

Am afraid Enda Mc may well pull the plug, but who is going to put the hand up to follow.
Will we get a new management team carrying their Ireland medals?.....
Doubt it..?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2022, 12:51:17 PM
We are officially looking for a new management team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 29, 2022, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2022, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: ck on May 29, 2022, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 28, 2022, 07:14:36 PM
When appropriate there is plenty of time to have that discussion. And we won't be managerless, let's put it that way.

I want to be fair to McGinley as he deserves at least that but I would question if anything has advanced in his two years. Antrim took a risk in appointing a young man with little coaching experience who clearly was learning on the job.

I agree with BS in that the problems are much more deep rooted than the performance levels of the senior side but if you look at senior results in isolation then there has been little or no progress. Admittedly I only saw two games thus year but certainly what we were producing this year was pretty poor. Today was the final nail in the coffin.

Is it a mentality issue?

On this board, there just seems to be constant bikering - is that an indication of Antrim Gaa in general?

Look at Fermanagh, who have probably 1/2 the players are pushing on and competing at a reasaonable and consistent level on a yearly basis.

Historically, well for 30 / 40 years haven't bridged many gaps at inter-county level - so what's the problems/issues?

Outwith the fantastic St. Galls team, in club football, the champions don't register at Ulster level - minor or senior.

The hurlers seem to have their house in order - competing at their league level and hopefully win the Joe Mc Donagh next Saturday evening.

The hurlers are still within a million years of competing for All Irelands though.

And playing in the correct competition and with progress to improve going forward. Antrim are a yo-yo county in hurling, they are real on expectations.

Antrim football should not competing for Sam Maguire or Ulster championships. Entering it is daft, the TC won't be the fix people want as seen here by some posts and by the attitude of players who stepped away.

We are in fact a junior county team and would need to win that competition before entering the intermediate championship.

Back to bashing managers again.. ah well didn't last long  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 29, 2022, 12:45:55 PM
You are an out and out homer, incapable of any rational thinking on Enda's management. He's your man and you'll afford him all the opportunities that you wouldn't afford others. That's nice and good luck with that.

And you still are still to tell wtf Duneane has to do with anything.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 12:59:04 PM
I think DC should throw his hat into the ring here... successful, knows the players and has great knowledge of the Antrim leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 01:00:24 PM
Gone. It's on Facebook
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 01:02:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 01:00:24 PM
Gone. It's on Facebook

Well if it's on fb lol!!

Anyways good luck to him and the back room team, div 3 still better than div 4. Some managers on here will be lining this one up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 29, 2022, 01:05:28 PM
Anyone got Jim Gavin's number?  He'll have to get in line of course. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 29, 2022, 12:55:24 PM
I'm not sure why you appear to be so triggered by the Duneane Massive comment or why it would need clarification, but it was a reference to a group of fanboys on this board who all hail from one part of the country and who appear to be devoid of any logical or rational thinking, or indeed, honesty in relation to our current county manager because although adopted, he is one of their own, and therefore must be defended at all times. Hope this helps.

Not a pitch in Duneane or indeed one who would play or games there...
There is  church and a school in that locale ....is your geography a wee bit off.....stop heeding 'somebody else'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 29, 2022, 01:22:40 PM
As expected EMcG has stepped away, tough task for the next man in a harder looking division 3.
Duine eile who do you think should take it on, you seem to know all the answers and what's being going wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 01:40:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 01:02:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 01:00:24 PM
Gone. It's on Facebook

Well if it's on fb lol!!

Anyways good luck to him and the back room team, div 3 still better than div 4. Some managers on here will be lining this one up

;D The official county page.

Best of luck to him. We are not an easy county to manage and he did his best and left us better than when he started out. It has unfortunately ended a bit sour but still division three is our level - or arguably above it. The Cavan game did us in really.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on May 29, 2022, 01:50:44 PM
Micky Moran managed Creggan before and made little difference.
Damian Cassidy won't make much of a difference in Bellaghy either why ?
The same as Antrim they didn't/don't have the players .
So it won't matter who we get the reality is all they can do is rearrange the deck chairs.Which might get us a short term improvement but it never lasts.

The quick fix won't work the problem is alot bigger than changing managers.The Gaa in Antrim needs a massive cultural revolution.We simply don't have enough people that are passionate about our games .Gealfast won't even put a dent in this problem.

The old saying "the rising tide lifts all ships" comes to mind when thinking about how we need to change to improve.

How we get there I don't have the answer but I'm pretty sure I know the problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 02:06:29 PM
We don't have the players to be competitive against Cavan. Leitrim a different story. This goes back to the expectation point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 02:16:20 PM
We put up a decent show. I don't know if that is the same. I always wonder if teams take it easy against us then do enough to beat us. This year is the first year I ever remember us being a division above a team we play in Ulster. There was no taking us easy based on that.

Cavan won Ulster. Yes it was an exceptional year with pandemic etc but even with that the fact they had players to do that puts them a good bit above us.

Yes I thought we would rattle them a bit this year but let's be honest that was a reality check and not just due to manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on May 29, 2022, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 29, 2022, 02:02:34 PM
We don't have the players to what? Be competitive against Cavan & Leitrim? Really?
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I am confident we could have beaten Leitrim if all player's where available and Cavan hadn't of giving us a hammering.

But let's be honest with ourselves we are where we are for a reason.Things need to change dramatically for Antrim to be competitive force in Ulster and it isn't always the managers fault, we have changed the manager and again and again it's the same.I am just stating that the problem is bigger than a manager.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2022, 02:40:46 PM
Mental gymnastics is a bullshit term when you don't agree with someone's argument.

I don't think he can be fully absolved and never said that but the standard Cavan are at Vs us is night and day. If you think after seeing us against Cavan and Cavan against Donegal that we are next to near them then tbh you're wrong.

The nature of our performance was the significant concern. Cavan are a different beast than we thought. That's all I'm saying. The Leitrim game different beast. No one could help but be hugely well disillusioned from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 29, 2022, 03:40:11 PM
Kevin madden will be my guess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 04:30:57 PM
The new Antrim manager will possibly be Duinte Inteach Eile if he seeks the post.
He does seem to have all the answers, and cannot see a long line of applicants...with somebody else assisting him and Duneane seconding the undoubted nomination to follow....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 04:45:12 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 29, 2022, 04:36:23 PM
Might take Dualtach Johnston with me  ::)
So that will be 'somebody else'..what about Duneane......John Bell as selector.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 04:48:05 PM
If Cassidy wants it he should go for it..

If not it needs to be a SW man, they are leading the way and it helps with less manager bashing/blaming

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 29, 2022, 04:55:11 PM
Sad to see Enda go. Antrim created a lot of chances yesterday but the finishing was diabolical.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 05:11:04 PM
Afraid to tell you Duneane is a parish name....not a gaa man residing in Duneane .....
Cargin resident in Toome and Moneyglas a mile or so down the road are the only teams in the parish..
Never pay heed to the poster known as 'somebody else'...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 29, 2022, 05:29:08 PM
Another eejit catfishing you CB  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2022, 07:02:09 PM
Some win for Ahoghill, they know how to pick their battles and raise their game. Fair play to Danny and Gareth.

We drew with Creggan, not much in it, tbh they had a few missing so not reading too much into it. And no, no melees DK. I can't remember the last time we had one with a SW team.

Moneyglass do just about enough at home...Ardoyne must have something about them, long may it last. Ballymena coming? Glenavy beating Con Magees a bit of a shock, but no panic, if you're not ready for Div 1 you definitely should time your run. Randalstown getting sucked into a relegation battle after a decent start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2022, 08:15:46 PM
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/ANT/Duneane

That should settle it ..lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Spike on May 29, 2022, 05:29:08 PM
Another eejit catfishing you CB  :D

And the slipper eel is prominent in these parts...
A poster named somebody else.....the name tells the tale..lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 29, 2022, 08:15:46 PM
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/ANT/Duneane

That should settle it ..lol.

Been residing in the parish all my life BS......tyvm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 29, 2022, 09:16:14 PM
mcginley state why he was leaving? useful to know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 29, 2022, 09:16:14 PM
mcginley state why he was leaving? useful to know

Said Gaelfast wasn't working out so packed it in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 29, 2022, 11:09:10 PM
Disappointed to hear today Enda and his back room have stood down. They set out to keep us in Div 3 and they did this with something to spare. I think we ran out of steam and luck. We were flying at the start of the league, fitness at championship level in January , blew Fermanagh off the park in Brewster, even though the home side carved us open that night on 3 occasions missing 3 golden goal opportunities. Giving away goal chances again highlighted against Limerick but they did punish us. We then put together a great run and secured our place in div3. I think fatigue played its part, players looked so jaded in Louth and Westmeath games, and Cavan was complete FUBAR.
Antrim are not going to attract any big name managers in to replace Enda and co, unless we get a JP McManus type backer out of somewhere.
Priority has to be having quality mgt at minor and u2O who buy into staying in place for 3-5 years, eg paul Devlin , collie Holmes, Michael Boyle, mark Counihan type men, the models are there t copy, we just need to get the personnel right.
Senior wise it's  difficult to see who would want the job . Arguably we were a more attractive prospect last year in the bottom tier as the only way was up
Now...after watching a very very poor display in carrick , on the back of poor displays against Cavan, Westmeath and Louth, can't see too many ambitious mgt groups beating down the county chairman's door
Cannot say how much a depressing drive home that was yesterday and not helped by the news today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on May 30, 2022, 06:54:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 29, 2022, 09:16:14 PM
mcginley state why he was leaving? useful to know

Said Gaelfast wasn't working out so packed it in

'Enda McGAAMAN'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 09:34:13 AM
So who would be prospective candidates for the senior managers post? I'm struggling to think of anyone available who we would want and who would want the job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 30, 2022, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 29, 2022, 11:09:10 PM
Disappointed to hear today Enda and his back room have stood down. They set out to keep us in Div 3 and they did this with something to spare. I think we ran out of steam and luck. We were flying at the start of the league, fitness at championship level in January , blew Fermanagh off the park in Brewster, even though the home side carved us open that night on 3 occasions missing 3 golden goal opportunities. Giving away goal chances again highlighted against Limerick but they did punish us. We then put together a great run and secured our place in div3. I think fatigue played its part, players looked so jaded in Louth and Westmeath games, and Cavan was complete FUBAR.
Antrim are not going to attract any big name managers in to replace Enda and co, unless we get a JP McManus type backer out of somewhere.
Priority has to be having quality mgt at minor and u2O who buy into staying in place for 3-5 years, eg paul Devlin , collie Holmes, Michael Boyle, mark Counihan type men, the models are there t copy, we just need to get the personnel right.
Senior wise it's  difficult to see who would want the job . Arguably we were a more attractive prospect last year in the bottom tier as the only way was up
Now...after watching a very very poor display in carrick , on the back of poor displays against Cavan, Westmeath and Louth, can't see too many ambitious mgt groups beating down the county chairman's door
Cannot say how much a depressing drive home that was yesterday and not helped by the news today

Bang on in terms of underage, need investment from county board to really go at these underage competition and bring in high quality management and structure. Antrim setup at minor and u21 is normally a farce
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Heard great reports of the u20 management. Minors, not so sure if was or wasn't a good setup but I do know a lot of effort went in regardless. The minor appointment is a more important one for Antrim than the senior one if you ask me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Heard great reports of the u20 management. Minors, not so sure if was or wasn't a good setup but I do know a lot of effort went in regardless. The minor appointment is a more important one for Antrim than the senior one if you ask me.

Spot on EOC.
U20 management this year were very switched on and more than half of their squad back next year, think they are good men and would be more than happy to see them stay on for a few years.
Minor is a huge one, need to get a high quality manager and equally high quality coaches around him and again keep them in place for a number of years, and no dotting daddies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 30, 2022, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 29, 2022, 07:02:09 PM
Some win for Ahoghill, they know how to pick their battles and raise their game. Fair play to Danny and Gareth.

We drew with Creggan, not much in it, tbh they had a few missing so not reading too much into it. And no, no melees DK. I can't remember the last time we had one with a SW team.

Moneyglass do just about enough at home...Ardoyne must have something about them, long may it last. Ballymena coming? Glenavy beating Con Magees a bit of a shock, but no panic, if you're not ready for Div 1 you definitely should time your run. Randalstown getting sucked into a relegation battle after a decent start.

TNN form is a worry but the issue is that we are missing over 20 players from last year who would have played a part in and around the senior panel.

A look at our lineup yesterday tells it's own story compared to the team we had last year, or even compared to the one we started this year with.

A lot of injuries, some of them long term and they won't be back this side of the championship (which is not the focus), and some boys away travelling, so after the hopes that we would be strong enough to stay up, it is really going to be a battle now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Heard great reports of the u20 management. Minors, not so sure if was or wasn't a good setup but I do know a lot of effort went in regardless. The minor appointment is a more important one for Antrim than the senior one if you ask me.

Spot on EOC.
U20 management this year were very switched on and more than half of their squad back next year, think they are good men and would be more than happy to see them stay on for a few years.
Minor is a huge one, need to get a high quality manager and equally high quality coaches around him and again keep them in place for a number of years, and no dotting daddies.

Is that the boy originally from Fermanagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 30, 2022, 01:03:06 PM
Think we may well have to take what we get rather than what we want/need when we appoint a successor to Enda, Stehen, and Sean.
Cannot envisage a long list of applicants...

Do think we may well rue the day we heaped negativity on the manager who managed to take us if from the lowest division?

Will we be prepared to move upwards next season or will we be back at basement level 2024......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2022, 01:09:39 PM
We talk about heaping negativity here CB... is this board indicative of how people were feeling? If so through what vehicle was negativity heaped on him? (I'm not disagreeing with you just wondering how the negativity gets through as let's be honest you would imagine people on a discussion board are fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things).

I worry about where we go from here tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:10:14 PM
Hopefully the new manager doesn't read the ramblings of the posters on here and take it seriously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 30, 2022, 01:27:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:10:14 PM
Hopefully the new manager doesn't read the ramblings of the posters on here and take it seriously

Well was at Whitehill yesterday and all he individuals I spoke to.....home and away are aware of the 'ramblings' on this board. Seems the whole world and his ma are looking on..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
Internal options (these ppl are currently manging in senior club football) are;
Gerard McNulty
Kevin Madden
John McKeever
Hugh McGettigan
McNulty the  most likely I would say. Externally I suppose there are endless options. We would need to think outside the box on this one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 30, 2022, 01:27:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:10:14 PM
Hopefully the new manager doesn't read the ramblings of the posters on here and take it seriously

Well was at Whitehill yesterday and all he individuals I spoke to.....home and away are aware of the 'ramblings' on this board. Seems the whole world and his ma are looking on..

So rather than reporting on the game your asking people about the gaa board? Strange.. Even more strange people are concerned about the ramblings of posters on here..

I suppose the Duneane Massive will take in some of Randalstown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
Internal options (these ppl are currently manging in senior club football) are;
Gerard McNulty
Kevin Madden
John McKeever
Hugh McGettigan
McNulty the  most likely I would say. Externally I suppose there are endless options. We would need to think outside the box on this one

Madden would be the one most likely as McKeever has just taken on his own club and I'd assume be tied to them, Hugh probably not has experience of taking the minors and so on and a great fella. Why not Cassidy if you are thinking outside the box?

Knows Antrim football, is successful and passionate about football, can bring in all players from the clubs and drive them on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
Internal options (these ppl are currently manging in senior club football) are;
Gerard McNulty
Kevin Madden
John McKeever
Hugh McGettigan
McNulty the  most likely I would say. Externally I suppose there are endless options. We would need to think outside the box on this one

Madden would be the one most likely as McKeever has just taken on his own club and I'd assume be tied to them, Hugh probably not has experience of taking the minors and so on and a great fella. Why not Cassidy if you are thinking outside the box?

Knows Antrim football, is successful and passionate about football, can bring in all players from the clubs and drive them on
Hes committed to taking his own club for next 5 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
Internal options (these ppl are currently manging in senior club football) are;
Gerard McNulty
Kevin Madden
John McKeever
Hugh McGettigan
McNulty the  most likely I would say. Externally I suppose there are endless options. We would need to think outside the box on this one

Madden would be the one most likely as McKeever has just taken on his own club and I'd assume be tied to them, Hugh probably not has experience of taking the minors and so on and a great fella. Why not Cassidy if you are thinking outside the box?

Knows Antrim football, is successful and passionate about football, can bring in all players from the clubs and drive them on
Hes committed to taking his own club for next 5 years

Fair enough, that's commitment.

Ross Carr currently taking Ardoyne, after a poor enough introduction to Antrim football I think he's starting to get his head around things with the team, and they have produced some great performances lately. Obviously there is a huge step up.

Gerard could be tempted I suppose what about the likes of McEntee or even Peter Canavan

edit:
Malachy O'Rourke?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 30, 2022, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 30, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Heard great reports of the u20 management. Minors, not so sure if was or wasn't a good setup but I do know a lot of effort went in regardless. The minor appointment is a more important one for Antrim than the senior one if you ask me.

Spot on EOC.
U20 management this year were very switched on and more than half of their squad back next year, think they are good men and would be more than happy to see them stay on for a few years.
Minor is a huge one, need to get a high quality manager and equally high quality coaches around him and again keep them in place for a number of years, and no dotting daddies.

Is that the boy originally from Fermanagh?

Yes Niall Jackman. The u20 set up was very positive from what I've heard also. In regards to seniors I would hope clubs get a chance to put forward nominations, as well as the board forming a management selection committee to look into assembling a couple of potentials management tickets for consideration. I really don't think we are as unattractive a prospect as people on here make out. I'd like to see Kevin madden considered again but he would need a good team of selectors and coaches around him. I think it could work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2022, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on May 30, 2022, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 30, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Heard great reports of the u20 management. Minors, not so sure if was or wasn't a good setup but I do know a lot of effort went in regardless. The minor appointment is a more important one for Antrim than the senior one if you ask me.

Spot on EOC.
U20 management this year were very switched on and more than half of their squad back next year, think they are good men and would be more than happy to see them stay on for a few years.
Minor is a huge one, need to get a high quality manager and equally high quality coaches around him and again keep them in place for a number of years, and no dotting daddies.

Is that the boy originally from Fermanagh?

Yes Niall Jackman. The u20 set up was very positive from what I've heard also. In regards to seniors I would hope clubs get a chance to put forward nominations, as well as the board forming a management selection committee to look into assembling a couple of potentials management tickets for consideration. I really don't think we are as unattractive a prospect as people on here make out. I'd like to see Kevin madden considered again but he would need a good team of selectors and coaches around him. I think it could work.

Strongly agree with this.

Yeah Madden at some point has to be given the role I would have thought so why not now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
3 years ago we played Derry in a Div 4 league game in Corrigan, where aided by a dubious call by the ref (we should have had a penalty when he gave a 14 yard free for a technical foul by keeper), Derry won by a point. We know what has happened since then.

So what's the difference? Don't think Derry have introduced a big number of new players, in fact RG has stated that the fewer personnel changes the better. They did get Conor Glass back and he has made a difference. Is it primarily the manager (management team), attitude, training methods, commitment? Like, they have gone from Div 4 to Ulster champions. In same period our progress has been limited and in championship terms, non existent.

Very frustrating. I was glad for them yesterday but still, very frustrating.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 03:37:29 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
3 years ago we played Derry in a Div 4 league game in Corrigan, where aided by a dubious call by the ref (we should have had a penalty when he gave a 14 yard free for a technical foul by keeper), Derry won by a point. We know what has happened since then.

So what's the difference? Don't think Derry have introduced a big number of new players, in fact RG has stated that the fewer personnel changes the better. They did get Conor Glass back and he has made a difference. Is it primarily the manager (management team), attitude, training methods, commitment? Like, they have gone from Div 4 to Ulster champions. In same period our progress has been limited and in championship terms, non existent.

Very frustrating. I was glad for them yesterday but still, very frustrating.

Who was the manager that day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Lenny
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Lenny

;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 30, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
3 years ago we played Derry in a Div 4 league game in Corrigan, where aided by a dubious call by the ref (we should have had a penalty when he gave a 14 yard free for a technical foul by keeper), Derry won by a point. We know what has happened since then.

So what's the difference? Don't think Derry have introduced a big number of new players, in fact RG has stated that the fewer personnel changes the better. They did get Conor Glass back and he has made a difference. Is it primarily the manager (management team), attitude, training methods, commitment? Like, they have gone from Div 4 to Ulster champions. In same period our progress has been limited and in championship terms, non existent.

Very frustrating. I was glad for them yesterday but still, very frustrating.

Derry have superior footballers, that helps!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 30, 2022, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Lenny
Who was the Derry manager ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 30, 2022, 03:48:32 PM
Only Chrissy McKaigue and Shane Mcguigan played on the starting team that day compared to the other 13 players that started yesterdays Ulster Final. I'd say a fair bit of personnel has changed!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 30, 2022, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: Flanker on May 30, 2022, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Lenny
Who was the Derry manager ?

Damian McErlaine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2022, 04:00:07 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Heard great reports of the u20 management. Minors, not so sure if was or wasn't a good setup but I do know a lot of effort went in regardless. The minor appointment is a more important one for Antrim than the senior one if you ask me.

Spot on EOC.
U20 management this year were very switched on and more than half of their squad back next year, think they are good men and would be more than happy to see them stay on for a few years.
Minor is a huge one, need to get a high quality manager and equally high quality coaches around him and again keep them in place for a number of years, and no dotting daddies.

If kids need quality coaching at minor then we are bate before we step out onto the pitch, you can have a high quality manager (good luck) but if the kids haven't the basics and are not as physically strong as the likes of Tyrone then you are pissing against the wind..

Kids are now physically stronger than 20 years ago, when more input back then was put out on the training pitch and not the gym, now its a combination of both..

Development squads should be looking to prepare kids better before minor, an academy approach rather than a development set up. honing skills and preparing for the future, coaching tactics and reviewing games and learning from them.

As an example the IFA in preparation of kids heading off on trials have the young lads 15/16 year olds living and learning in dorms/classroom/pitches at UUJ..

I know this sounds a lot for our lads but that approach is what is being used, ours could be a slightly less intense or water downed version over a smaller period but if we are serious or if the kids are serious about it then that's what makes a difference, and it needs to be a conveyor belt of talent coming through.

But lets remember this is an amateur sport and school and education will always come first at that age, the likes of Tyrone and Dublin must have more lads to pick from, so that helps also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 30, 2022, 04:00:18 PM
Antrim are miles off rest of Ulster unfortunately, just don't have strong enough clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2022, 04:04:01 PM
This will most likely be put out to the club's, so feel free to get busy. I've no doubt we will come up with someone who will re invigorate the morale in the county, attract the best players to make themselves available and when there, be able to adopt a style of play that plays to our strengths. There will be plenty interested...the show must go on!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2022, 04:29:29 PM
That Enda made the call to step down is likely because after weighing up his options he came to the decision that he had taken this group as far as he could. The last four performances will have disappointed him greatly, and as the old saying goes you learn more in defeat than you do in victory. The squad was starting to break up and on reflection year three rarely gets any better, so all in all he manfully made the right call imo and the many people I spoke to yesterday were in agreement.

The three last second winning points in year one may have put a slight gloss on where we were really at...two of those teams put us easily to the sword this year to offer some perspective. So I think Enda made the right call after weighing it all up.

Where it goes from here is anyone's guess. I'd be confident we can get a man in who will get us back up and competitive again in our grade, at senior level.

As many have alluded to here, the priority needs to be what happens in the build up to senior. A director of football in Derry set about attracting many big name ex players and bolting them on development squads, and there's no doubt that medium term policy worked out very well when you see yesterday's result.

We have some thinking to do!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 30, 2022, 04:33:40 PM
Any suggestions Bannside??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 30, 2022, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
3 years ago we played Derry in a Div 4 league game in Corrigan, where aided by a dubious call by the ref (we should have had a penalty when he gave a 14 yard free for a technical foul by keeper), Derry won by a point. We know what has happened since then.

So what's the difference? Don't think Derry have introduced a big number of new players, in fact RG has stated that the fewer personnel changes the better. They did get Conor Glass back and he has made a difference. Is it primarily the manager (management team), attitude, training methods, commitment? Like, they have gone from Div 4 to Ulster champions. In same period our progress has been limited and in championship terms, non existent.

Very frustrating. I was glad for them yesterday but still, very frustrating.

In the main a combination of 2 things

Derry had been addressing their underage pipeline which consistently produced very competitive squads for a few years prior to this and since
Ulster (Minors), Ulster U20's, 3/4 Macrory Cups, All Ireland Minor, Ulster minor club, probably lots more & there or thereabouts in lots of others as well.

In that time We have.............

Both teams changed there management/coaching setup

One got a modern day tactically aware setup maximising what they have into a cohesive force much stronger than the sum of the parts

We got a setup that in the end looked like a gather up

Derry get 2 out of 2 Result 2022 Ulster Senior Title

We get 0 out of 2 Result Knocked out by mid table Div 4 team


Challenge is to get both parts right and bring it together




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
3 years ago we played Derry in a Div 4 league game in Corrigan, where aided by a dubious call by the ref (we should have had a penalty when he gave a 14 yard free for a technical foul by keeper), Derry won by a point. We know what has happened since then.

So what's the difference? Don't think Derry have introduced a big number of new players, in fact RG has stated that the fewer personnel changes the better. They did get Conor Glass back and he has made a difference. Is it primarily the manager (management team), attitude, training methods, commitment? Like, they have gone from Div 4 to Ulster champions. In same period our progress has been limited and in championship terms, non existent.

Very frustrating. I was glad for them yesterday but still, very frustrating.
Derry we're in Div4, but it was a false position. With the structures they have had in place for decades, schools, clubs, always competitive at every underage level. Derry won several minor and u20 titles in the last 5 -7 years. Comparing Antrim to them isn't logical. Yes they were in the same division at 1 point but as Joe Brolly said at a function in our club recently With Derrys talent they should never not be a Division 1 team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 30, 2022, 05:49:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 30, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
3 years ago we played Derry in a Div 4 league game in Corrigan, where aided by a dubious call by the ref (we should have had a penalty when he gave a 14 yard free for a technical foul by keeper), Derry won by a point. We know what has happened since then.

So what's the difference? Don't think Derry have introduced a big number of new players, in fact RG has stated that the fewer personnel changes the better. They did get Conor Glass back and he has made a difference. Is it primarily the manager (management team), attitude, training methods, commitment? Like, they have gone from Div 4 to Ulster champions. In same period our progress has been limited and in championship terms, non existent.

Very frustrating. I was glad for them yesterday but still, very frustrating.
Derry we're in Div4, but it was a false position. With the structures they have had in place for decades, schools, clubs, always competitive at every underage level. Derry won several minor and u20 titles in the last 5 -7 years. Comparing Antrim to them isn't logical. Yes they were in the same division at 1 point but as Joe Brolly said at a function in our club recently With Derrys talent they should never not be a Division 1 team.
I'd agree with all of that.  We are not in the same breath as Derry, we haven't earned it.  They are knocking their pan in at schools and underage, producing teams which are consistently competing at Ulster and All Ireland level.  That creates a pipeline of talent.  Credit to their clubs as well. 
What are we doing, hoping to hire a magician to pull a rabbit out of a hat with our senior team - quick fixes get found out.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 30, 2022, 06:20:55 PM
And the special atmosphere in Clones yesterday.  My god it was a catastrophic mistake to give away the keys to Casement. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2022, 07:28:51 PM
Tomorrow is a big day for news regarding Casement. Fingers crossed it's news we will welcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 31, 2022, 06:43:03 AM
Not a peep from our Director of football, staggering!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2022, 07:29:37 AM
Sorry Saffs, I missed your question. Having talked to a few people yesterday I know county officers will be proactive about this, which is not always a given - in many years previously they left it to clubs to nominate and more often than not most clubs didn't get involved.

That's reassuring because it's important to get a few quality options -  there's manys a slip between the cup/lip, and as Down found out last year an eleventh hour withdrawal left them in a hard place.

Most of the names floating about here earlier are experienced operators who know their way around a football team and are capable of doing a good job, so there's no panic right now, Enda doing the right thing has bought us some time.

There are other names too that there are plans to have discussions with, who would be demanding total confidence, or are involved with other teams and wouldn't want their name associated with anyone else for the time being.

There is strong sentiment here that the focus should be on pre senior activity, and that's absolutely fair comment too, one for another conversation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 30, 2022, 04:04:01 PM
This will most likely be put out to the club's, so feel free to get busy. I've no doubt we will come up with someone who will re invigorate the morale in the county, attract the best players to make themselves available and when there, be able to adopt a style of play that plays to our strengths. There will be plenty interested...the show must go on!
Bit of delusion here BS, you may not have noticed but there is a complete lack of quality senior players in Antrim currently, this will be even more evident when that group of older players who soldiered this year inevitably retire.
Get a manager in who can get the most of of what he has surely, but the focus of these officials you are talking to BS should be on Antrims youth otherwise we will still be here talking about this in 20 years time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2022, 09:02:50 AM
Yeah this is not just a blip and not just an "anomaly" who didn't work out. Yes it didn't work out but when was the last one who did. Deeper rooted problems here that will take years to fix.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 31, 2022, 09:08:49 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 30, 2022, 04:04:01 PM
This will most likely be put out to the club's, so feel free to get busy. I've no doubt we will come up with someone who will re invigorate the morale in the county, attract the best players to make themselves available and when there, be able to adopt a style of play that plays to our strengths. There will be plenty interested...the show must go on!
Bit of delusion here BS, you may not have noticed but there is a complete lack of quality senior players in Antrim currently, this will be even more evident when that group of older players who soldiered this year inevitably retire.
Get a manager in who can get the most of of what he has surely, but the focus of these officials you are talking to BS should be on Antrims youth otherwise we will still be here talking about this in 20 years time.

I agree. While not to say give up on the seniors if they aren't a top priority, I think we do need to focus all efforts on the youth setups and start to be competitive at u15 up for a few years and set the plan in place that in 5-7 years we are bringing through a good few top quality senior players.

So that means improving coaching practices from say u11 now, which is something that many had expected Gaelfast to be doing.

I just can't see that they are having that impact.

It is always good to see a senior team winning for the young ones coming through, as it builds aspirations, but as you say, if the personnel aren't there now you have to set a longer term plan in place rather than just seeking a sticking plaster to amble on through the next couple of years with them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 31, 2022, 09:30:24 AM
Nominations for senior football manager opened to clubs this morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 31, 2022, 09:36:49 AM
How many Antrim lads left the panel after being knocked out by Cavan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2022, 09:39:28 AM
All most valid points and in no way am I disagreeing with any of that. A strong argument could be made for putting the majority of funding available to overseeing fit for purpose juvenile development - that is - let's start getting our underage teams competitive and go from there.

Another strong argument can be made for the provision of one or two full time coaches being designated to post primary schools, sourcing talent, organising competitions, making sure no potentially elite player slips the net.

And a safe pair of hands taking the senior job during a few "development" years, but not breaking the bank. Which incidentally is exactly what Derry did during the Damien Mc Erlain years.

I believe this starts with a new DOF with terms of engagement and KPI's and an energetic committee working in conjunction with Coiste Baniste coming up with a proper plan for football would obtain some third party funding too, businesses etc.

The task would be huge - we have got so far behind - but there definitely is a groundswell of goodwill out there which can be seen by anyone who attends the SBF events etc.

I think this can be done, but it will take time and there are a few hurdles to cross. In the meantime the decision to be made is whether to go flat out for a big name management team that may be costly, or whether to stand back and re evaluate the bigger picture
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2022, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 09:39:28 AM
All most valid points and in no way am I disagreeing with any of that. A strong argument could be made for putting the majority of funding available to overseeing fit for purpose juvenile development - that is - let's start getting our underage teams competitive and go from there.

Another strong argument can be made for the provision of one or two full time coaches being designated to post primary schools, sourcing talent, organising competitions, making sure no potentially elite player slips the net.

And a safe pair of hands taking the senior job during a few "development" years, but not breaking the bank. Which incidentally is exactly what Derry did during the Damien Mc Erlain years.

I believe this starts with a new DOF with terms of engagement and KPI's and an energetic committee working in conjunction with Coiste Baniste coming up with a proper plan for football would obtain some third party funding too, businesses etc.

The task would be huge - we have got so far behind - but there definitely is a groundswell of goodwill out there which can be seen by anyone who attends the SBF events etc.

I think this can be done, but it will take time and there are a few hurdles to cross. In the meantime the decision to be made is whether to go flat out for a big name management team that may be costly, or whether to stand back and re evaluate the bigger picture

I always admire your optimism BS but on point of note - the "safe pair of hands" that took them to division 4! (No offense to the man but he was far from a safe pair of hands).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2022, 09:49:50 AM
Lol Tommy I knew it wouldn't take long before someone brought that up. The safe pair of hands we would put in would need to be safer than that lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2022, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 09:49:50 AM
Lol Tommy I knew it wouldn't take long before someone brought that up. The safe pair of hands we would put in would need to be safer than that lol.

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 31, 2022, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 09:39:28 AM
All most valid points and in no way am I disagreeing with any of that. A strong argument could be made for putting the majority of funding available to overseeing fit for purpose juvenile development - that is - let's start getting our underage teams competitive and go from there.

Another strong argument can be made for the provision of one or two full time coaches being designated to post primary schools, sourcing talent, organising competitions, making sure no potentially elite player slips the net.

And a safe pair of hands taking the senior job during a few "development" years, but not breaking the bank. Which incidentally is exactly what Derry did during the Damien Mc Erlain years.

I believe this starts with a new DOF with terms of engagement and KPI's and an energetic committee working in conjunction with Coiste Baniste coming up with a proper plan for football would obtain some third party funding too, businesses etc.

The task would be huge - we have got so far behind - but there definitely is a groundswell of goodwill out there which can be seen by anyone who attends the SBF events etc.

I think this can be done, but it will take time and there are a few hurdles to cross. In the meantime the decision to be made is whether to go flat out for a big name management team that may be costly, or whether to stand back and re evaluate the bigger picture

Antrim need to think outside the box - put all their resources into the underage structures.

Do a 5 year plan with this intent.

No point ploughing big money into a senior squad - for what really? No improvement year after year, manager after manager.

Do something different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2022, 10:01:45 AM
We're in trouble for a number of years here tbh. It is very hard to see some of that Cargin contingent come back with age demographic which will be a massive loss. It's a rebuilding exercise, again, really. Maybe it needs done yes but still it'll be a big ask to not go down to division 4 next year. Not fun times  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2022, 10:01:45 AM
We're in trouble for a number of years here tbh. It is very hard to see some of that Cargin contingent come back with age demographic which will be a massive loss. It's a rebuilding exercise, again, really. Maybe it needs done yes but still it'll be a big ask to not go down to division 4 next year. Not fun times  :(

With the players that did extremely well in the schools cups from Lurgan and Derry, surely they will need to be the ones we have at the spine of the team for the future? Capitalise on those lads who have had the the best training and prep
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 31, 2022, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2022, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 29, 2022, 09:16:14 PM
mcginley state why he was leaving? useful to know

Said Gaelfast wasn't working out so packed it in
Yes I heard that and wasn't happy with standard of referees in the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 31, 2022, 10:49:20 AM
Judgement being handed down re Casement. Looks like judge is quashing the appeal against the decision, good news.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2022, 10:58:42 AM
Positive news for a change. That was an important judgement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 31, 2022, 10:49:20 AM
Judgement being handed down re Casement. Looks like judge is quashing the appeal against the decision, good news.

Is there room for an appeal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 31, 2022, 11:20:24 AM
If someone says it now can't progress because there's no Assembly it will tip me over the edge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 31, 2022, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 31, 2022, 10:49:20 AM
Judgement being handed down re Casement. Looks like judge is quashing the appeal against the decision, good news.

Is there room for an appeal?

No. Pretty sure this is the end of the road for the residents campaign. Thats the end of the legal / planning issues, now there is a big funding gap to make up and in the absence of an Executive that's going to be a significant problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?

I'm getting on, I'd like to ref a game at Casement again, did a underage final there before it closed but was hoping out of sheer goodwill that they will allow county finals to be carried out there at the start  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2022, 12:11:16 PM
What executive??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 31, 2022, 12:51:57 PM
You're pretty c**k sure there that you will be getting appointed to County Finals by the time it comes around.....................

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?

I'm getting on, I'd like to ref a game at Casement again, did a underage final there before it closed but was hoping out of sheer goodwill that they will allow county finals to be carried out there at the start  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 31, 2022, 12:51:57 PM
You're pretty c**k sure there that you will be getting appointed to County Finals by the time it comes around.....................

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2022, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?

I'm getting on, I'd like to ref a game at Casement again, did a underage final there before it closed but was hoping out of sheer goodwill that they will allow county finals to be carried out there at the start  ;)

Hoping I said and you went with pretty c**k sure?

We have had underage finals up to minor and senior finals from junior upwards but sure you couldn't wait to get in there and make yourself look silly.. just highlighted my bit ;)

Plenty of roles within doing county finals also...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on May 31, 2022, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?



Then you have to deal with the tender again as its Public Money, the design has changed and re-tender I would like to think to avoid Jr's would no doubt be the approach, those lads at CPD have a fair amount of PS funding to oversee and taking past records the Capex will have increased again by the time it eventually goes out so possibly 4-5 years away on a good day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 31, 2022, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?



Then you have to deal with the tender again as its Public Money, the design has changed and re-tender I would like to think to avoid Jr's would no doubt be the approach, those lads at CPD have a fair amount of PS funding to oversee and taking past records the Capex will have increased again by the time it eventually goes out so possibly 4-5 years away on a good day?
Awarded to a contractor 9 years ago, it will have to be re-tendered no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2022, 05:22:26 PM
Not so sure Heron Bros will see it that way EOC!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 31, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on May 31, 2022, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 11:49:04 AM
Exactly Brendan. Who is going to make up the deficit? Original financials were forecast at £67m (open to correction) but rising costs and materials has driven that cost north of £100m.

You'de like to think assurances were forthcoming in this regard before proceeding to this stage. Or does that start for earnest now?



Then you have to deal with the tender again as its Public Money, the design has changed and re-tender I would like to think to avoid Jr's would no doubt be the approach, those lads at CPD have a fair amount of PS funding to oversee and taking past records the Capex will have increased again by the time it eventually goes out so possibly 4-5 years away on a good day?
Awarded to a contractor 9 years ago, it will have to be re-tendered no doubt

So will the stadium be now changed in any way?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 05:22:26 PM
Not so sure Heron Bros will see it that way EOC!
Herons Buckingham JV, happy days if they can stand by their original tender amount
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 05:22:26 PM
Not so sure Heron Bros will see it that way EOC!
Herons Buckingham JV, happy days if they can stand by their original tender amount
By the way I know nothing about all this, was just speculating
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 01, 2022, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2022, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 31, 2022, 05:22:26 PM
Not so sure Heron Bros will see it that way EOC!
Herons Buckingham JV, happy days if they can stand by their original tender amount

Like all tenders I'd suggest they're time limited which has undoubtedly expired and will require a new tendering process and the time that will take.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 01, 2022, 01:51:04 PM
Piece on Gaelfast in this weeks Gaelic Life. Answer a few critics maybe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on June 01, 2022, 03:02:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 01, 2022, 01:51:04 PM
Piece on Gaelfast in this weeks Gaelic Life. Answer a few critics maybe.

A PR piece ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 01, 2022, 09:37:34 PM
Is that a misprint score on the Antrim website? 28 point defeat for Aghagallon at home?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2022, 11:26:14 PM
Johnnie's and Lahms sending out a strong signals in recent weeks. No one will be walking over those two on recent performances.

Creggan motor on nicely, too good for Galls. Cargin avoid a banana skin away to Rossa. PG1 motoring ok too, looking like a genuine top two or three.

St Paul's win the really eye-catching one of the evening, hard to get a handle on them atm, and Big Baker starting to work his magic in the middle town.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 02, 2022, 07:29:44 AM
5 of the top 6 will battle it out for a place in the final on one side of the draw, while Portglenone are on the other side. Get the bunting and flags up BS you are for the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 02, 2022, 01:30:46 PM
I honestly can't see past Portglenone winning the championship this year.  They have all the tools at their disposal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2022, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 02, 2022, 01:30:46 PM
I honestly can't see past Portglenone winning the championship this year.  They have all the tools at their disposal

No need for that!!

Bit early for predictions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 02, 2022, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 01, 2022, 01:51:04 PM
Piece on Gaelfast in this weeks Gaelic Life. Answer a few critics maybe.
what's it say ? Not stocked in my corner shop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2022, 05:37:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 02, 2022, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 01, 2022, 01:51:04 PM
Piece on Gaelfast in this weeks Gaelic Life. Answer a few critics maybe.
what's it say ? Not stocked in my corner shop

It says that Belfast GAA man talks out his arse ;D I thought they went over the top on that one...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 02, 2022, 06:14:31 PM
😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 03, 2022, 04:33:26 AM
Thanks for the vote of confidence Christmas Lights  John Boyle will still offer you seven coins to one of your own should Casements manage to win the blue riband for the first time.

No one here looking too far ahead of themselves but John Mc Keever has definitely brought things on to a different level from last year and players thoroughly enjoying the his professional set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 03, 2022, 09:05:18 AM
Don't look too far BS but you're in the final already bar a monumental balls up. Most lopsided draw in sport
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 03, 2022, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2022, 05:37:21 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 02, 2022, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 01, 2022, 01:51:04 PM
Piece on Gaelfast in this weeks Gaelic Life. Answer a few critics maybe.
what's it say ? Not stocked in my corner shop

It says that Belfast GAA man talks out his arse ;D I thought they went over the top on that one...
U love me really ! can anyone share info from the artilce? cant see anything on county web
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 12:13:35 PM
Trouble up at Aghagallon...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2022, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 12:13:35 PM
Trouble up at Aghagallon...?

You're worse that the aul woman who gossips at bingo ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2022, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 12:13:35 PM
Trouble up at Aghagallon...?

You're worse that the aul woman who gossips at bingo ffs

Do not frequent such events......guess u do...!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 03, 2022, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 12:13:35 PM
Trouble up at Aghagallon...?

Basically playing a B team this 2 months. Load of injuries and boys away. Will be lucky to stay in division 1 this year ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 04:31:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 03, 2022, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 12:13:35 PM
Trouble up at Aghagallon...?

Basically playing a B team this 2 months. Load of injuries and boys away. Will be lucky to stay in division 1 this year ffs.

Afraid Reserve team could not field tonight......bad for reigning county minor champs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2022, 05:32:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 04:31:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 03, 2022, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 03, 2022, 12:13:35 PM
Trouble up at Aghagallon...?

Basically playing a B team this 2 months. Load of injuries and boys away. Will be lucky to stay in division 1 this year ffs.

Afraid Reserve team could not field tonight......bad for reigning county minor champs.

Crazy all round it seems I did a game the other night one team scored 11 goals against a team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 03, 2022, 05:41:09 PM
I don't have the exact answer but reserve football is dying out. A lot of games conceded as the season goes on. Maybe if teams have a strong enough 2nd strong enter the team in one of the lower divisions. It's then a serious team rather than a gather up which reserve football usually is. I think St Galls have maybe done it this year, we did it the 2000s until they powers that be stopped us entering the intermediate and junior championships.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2022, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 03, 2022, 05:41:09 PM
I don't have the exact answer but reserve football is dying out. A lot of games conceded as the season goes on. Maybe if teams have a strong enough 2nd strong enter the team in one of the lower divisions. It's then a serious team rather than a gather up which reserve football usually is. I think St Galls have maybe done it this year, we did it the 2000s until they powers that be stopped us entering the intermediate and junior championships.

We done it in hurling and football this year and like yourselves years ago also, there's a target at least of regular games against 'senior' teams as for the championship I still feel you should be entered as it's far more competitive than a reserve championship, and should a second/third win I've no problems with them not participating in the Ulster championship and a team nominated.

We won a junior hurling final years ago with players that wouldn't have been starters or even subs on or senior team, the party was as big as a senior title
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 06, 2022, 11:12:32 PM
Hearing Dom Corrigans name mentioned in relation to senior football manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 06, 2022, 11:12:32 PM
Hearing Dom Corrigans name mentioned in relation to senior football manager

Hugh Mc Gettigan/Brian White and Ross Carr mentioned.....in despatches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 07, 2022, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 06, 2022, 11:12:32 PM
Hearing Dom Corrigans name mentioned in relation to senior football manager

Would be an excellent appointment. Constantly at the winners podium

Quote from: country bumpkin on June 07, 2022, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 06, 2022, 11:12:32 PM
Hearing Dom Corrigans name mentioned in relation to senior football manager
Hugh Mc Gettigan/Brian White and Ross Carr mentioned.....in despatches.

An appointment of car crash proportions. no
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 07, 2022, 07:57:00 PM
Heard Damien Cassidy/McNultys/Joe Cassidy and John McKeever in as a dream team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2022, 09:48:46 PM
Lol Paddyjohn. Damien committed to Wolfe Tones for 5 years or something, he is only halfway through year one. And JMK going nowhere, he's ok where he is!

Lots of credible names floating around, including a few biggies that haven't been mentioned on here - but this process will only start for real when you see what names the club's put forward before June 10th. Plus, county officers are free to get active too and I would be fairly sure they will be as ambitious as anyone.

As I said before, we won't be stuck.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 07, 2022, 11:31:57 PM
Would Mickey Moran even be tempted into managing a county?

Antrim would be handy enough for him, distance wise, in comparsion to the Kilcoo gig.

Have the training in Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2022, 08:31:28 AM
I wouldn't be convinced Moran is in great health. He has got very frail. That may be wrong but definitely looking at him for Kilcoo I think age at least is taking it's toll.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2022, 08:56:31 AM
Kevin Madden has recently come through a major operation which was much more important than anything football related. Will be out of football for a few months at least, we wish him a speedy recovery to full fitness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 08, 2022, 01:30:26 PM
Cannot envisage a long line of applicants.....and cannot sèe a whole host of potential untapped talent.

It will be a real rest for the incoming management to ensure residency in Division Three and if such eludes....the war drums will soon be beating.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
Out of the names being mentioned to date, I'd be delighted with any one of Dom Corrigan, Peter Canavan, Malachy O'Rourke or Paddy Tally (provided whoever comes in has a good coaching and backroom team accompanying them). I'd be surprised if at least 2 of those names weren't interested. It will be important to retain the interest of the current players (and some of those that have stepped away recently) so the appointment needs to be a well-respected and known figure head, but also someone who is committed to 3-4 seasons minimum.
Have any other names been mentioned or approached by clubs ahead of this deadline on Thursday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2022, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2022, 01:30:26 PM
Cannot envisage a long line of applicants.....and cannot sèe a whole host of potential untapped talent.

It will be a real rest for the incoming management to ensure residency in Division Three and if such eludes....the war drums will soon be beating.....

Yeah we have never got any big names before so in reality I don't why they would come now...

Honestly think some people are over egging where we are as a county here. Survival in division 3 should be our main goal next year and then do what we can in the Tailteann cup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 08, 2022, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
Out of the names being mentioned to date, I'd be delighted with any one of Dom Corrigan, Peter Canavan, Malachy O'Rourke or Paddy Tally (provided whoever comes in has a good coaching and backroom team accompanying them). I'd be surprised if at least 2 of those names weren't interested. It will be important to retain the interest of the current players (and some of those that have stepped away recently) so the appointment needs to be a well-respected and known figure head, but also someone who is committed to 3-4 seasons minimum.
Have any other names been mentioned or approached by clubs ahead of this deadline on Thursday?

What club(s) has Canavan managed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 08, 2022, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
Out of the names being mentioned to date, I'd be delighted with any one of Dom Corrigan, Peter Canavan, Malachy O'Rourke or Paddy Tally (provided whoever comes in has a good coaching and backroom team accompanying them). I'd be surprised if at least 2 of those names weren't interested. It will be important to retain the interest of the current players (and some of those that have stepped away recently) so the appointment needs to be a well-respected and known figure head, but also someone who is committed to 3-4 seasons minimum.
Have any other names been mentioned or approached by clubs ahead of this deadline on Thursday?
Got to be realisitic, Malachy O Rourke is  a sought after manager now at one of the top clubs in Ireland isn't going to be attracted to Antrim. Canavan, ok his name alone would draw in players to be part of it but his managerial career so far hasn't been brilliant. Tally would be a good shout, I hear people slagging his style of play but he has a proven record.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 08, 2022, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
Out of the names being mentioned to date, I'd be delighted with any one of Dom Corrigan, Peter Canavan, Malachy O'Rourke or Paddy Tally (provided whoever comes in has a good coaching and backroom team accompanying them). I'd be surprised if at least 2 of those names weren't interested. It will be important to retain the interest of the current players (and some of those that have stepped away recently) so the appointment needs to be a well-respected and known figure head, but also someone who is committed to 3-4 seasons minimum.
Have any other names been mentioned or approached by clubs ahead of this deadline on Thursday?

What club(s) has Canavan managed

Cavan Gaels, He had a fairly successful period with Fermanagh at county level, brought them a good bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 03:28:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 08, 2022, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on June 08, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
Out of the names being mentioned to date, I'd be delighted with any one of Dom Corrigan, Peter Canavan, Malachy O'Rourke or Paddy Tally (provided whoever comes in has a good coaching and backroom team accompanying them). I'd be surprised if at least 2 of those names weren't interested. It will be important to retain the interest of the current players (and some of those that have stepped away recently) so the appointment needs to be a well-respected and known figure head, but also someone who is committed to 3-4 seasons minimum.
Have any other names been mentioned or approached by clubs ahead of this deadline on Thursday?
Got to be realisitic, Malachy O Rourke is  a sought after manager now at one of the top clubs in Ireland isn't going to be attracted to Antrim. Canavan, ok his name alone would draw in players to be part of it but his managerial career so far hasn't been brilliant. Tally would be a good shout, I hear people slagging his style of play but he has a proven record.

In terms of Canavan, again, winning a county senior championship and narrowly losing to slaughtneil in ulster is hardly poor going, Plus he brought fermanagh out of the basement into division 3. I would say its not a bad record thus far at all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 08, 2022, 03:48:18 PM
I stand corrected, although watch out, getting a team promoted out of Division 4 doesn't gain much kudos on this board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2022, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 08, 2022, 03:48:18 PM
I stand corrected, although watch out, getting a team promoted out of Division 4 doesn't gain much kudos on this board.

Its a good thing that the board isn't listened to, as its just a bunch of wafflers (myself included) who don't take things too serious.

I'd some aul punter giving me loads behind the wire gurning about me being on the GAAboard, like if you're that annoyed don't read it, but hey ho
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 08, 2022, 04:23:56 PM
With the exception of Dominic Mc Enhill out of all the games I attended this season cannot name a single player who was not asked to participate in the Antrim side last year....

But I may well have missed to spot emerging talent...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 08, 2022, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 08, 2022, 04:23:56 PM
With the exception of Dominic Mc Enhill out of all the games I attended this season cannot name a single player who was not asked to participate in the Antrim side last year....

But I may well have missed to spot emerging talent...

sure was Dommo not on panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2022, 09:09:10 PM
Of course he was. All year and never got a kick of the ball. I despair at the way our forwards were set up, and don't get me started about the defence.

EMG might have done well (got an extreme amount of luck) to get us out of the basement but make no mistake that's where we were heading back at a rate of knots. The Louths and Leitrims that we beat with last second hail Mary's in year one were toying with us at the finish.

The gig was up - Enda knew it too, he's not silly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 08, 2022, 11:52:52 PM
Forgot to add my own preference - Marty Clarke. Excellent coach and did a great job with Down U20s last year. Should be approached at very least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 07:37:41 AM
Bs I'll be honest here- I generally enjoy your posts but don't like your posts on McGinley at all. Why? You blatantly didn't like him as Antrim manager which is fine however you now seem to have resorted to any good things he did were lucky? This IMO is poor form. Yes it turned to shite in the end but there were good things in 5here and you seem incapable of admitting that.

I hope I am wrong but we need to be careful what we wish for. In the last number of years we have talked big ambition with managers but never walked the walk when it comes to getting them. Let's see what we get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 07:48:47 AM
Got to agree here. Criticising all EMcG's faults and refusing to give credit for any achievements (which are put down to luck), complete bitterness that I think all can see.
That is a big list there CK, bound to be a winner in there. Tally would be my choice, maybe could even lure Matt Fitzpatrick out as they won a Sigerson together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 09, 2022, 08:15:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 07:37:41 AM
Bs I'll be honest here- I generally enjoy your posts but don't like your posts on McGinley at all. Why? You blatantly didn't like him as Antrim manager which is fine however you now seem to have resorted to any good things he did were lucky? This IMO is poor form. Yes it turned to shite in the end but there were good things in 5here and you seem incapable of admitting that.

I hope I am wrong but we need to be careful what we wish for. In the last number of years we have talked big ambition with managers but never walked the walk when it comes to getting them. Let's see what we get.

Agree with that ITG....does seem a personal issue and it has continue full speed ahead for several..
EMG took us from the basement and having consulted the 'Oracle' such negativity and the perceived lack of commitment from more than a few led to his leaving..

Can see the well considered 'wish lists'  as posted but who but cannot foresee a long list of applicants...
Some need  reality check as to the emerging talent in our county....have a good look within and without obvious bias within just where are those players equipped to take us on an upward march....and consider the best player in our county is well into his 30s...

Will the new man at the helm.2023 be leading us onwards and upwards or can we contemplate a trip back to the basement.?

We have a long cherished history of blindly manager bashing instead of focusing on raising the profile within our own club.

How many have emerging talent within our own clubs future county seniors........?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 10:01:10 AM
ITG, I think if you look back at any of my posts during Endas tenure I gave plenty of credit where it was due and acknowledged the occasions when performances were good.

But I flagged up well over a year ago that our defence was a shambles. People came to a lazy conclusion that was because ND wasn't featuring - which is simply wrong. I saw good natural half forwards trying to perform primary roles in defence - which they weren't used to or had ever played before ( Dermot and Jordy for example) and Eoghan who played mostly HF all his life bring converted to CB which is a highly specialist position. I saw Ricky getting no protection whatsoever (think Sam Mulroy) and when Decky Lynch was left one in one with Niall Murphy against Sligo. Crazy stuff.

Then I look at CM on the bench, RM our biggest scoring threat, being utilised as a workhorse around the middle, and a reliance on OE to be our main ball winner and threat - match after match - while all could see this wasn't working.

Defensively a shambles. Forward play a shambles. I'm sorry, I just couldn't see much to like, and I wondered what the hell were SON and SK doing. Tbh they don't come out of this well either.

I saw this coming a long way back and got a bit of a roasting for having the audacity to call it out a year ago. But the chickens came home to roost, and I don't think anyone here with any understanding of football can even think about questioning that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 10:08:29 AM
BS there is nothing wrong with criticising people and tbh you go to games and are as well placed as most HOWEVER when you start to say we were lucky in division 4 and give zero credit to him for getting us out of division 4 it kind of starts to feel your criticism strays into axe to grind territory - that is my point. We won three games in division three and drew one too. Yes there were a good few things that weren't great too and you have framed that but you do yourself no favours when you start to stray into territory of just having a go at the guy. (We won three games and drew one in division 3 this year too).

I'm sorry but there is just stuff in your posts which strike me as "playing the man". You have many valid points I agree but you seem to have strayed a bit as well.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on June 09, 2022, 10:55:10 AM
Quote from: ck on June 08, 2022, 11:45:31 PM
My own club have asked members for nominations for Antrim football manager. A few thoughts for starters.

Steven Poacher - Coached Carlow and Rosscommon. Currently on the club scene in Down.
Paddy Tally - Currently in Kerry, previously with Down with James McCartan and previously with Tyrone.
Anthony McGrath - Coached Donegal winning Ulster Cship and managed QUB. Currently managing an Antrim club.
Damien McErlain - Former Derry Manager and QUB, brought Derry minors to All-Ireland final. Currently acting as an adviser for a county team.
Kevin Madden - Former Creggan Manager and Tyrone coach under Mickey Harte. Has health matters to deal with but would add to a backroom team.
Adrian Cush - Derry c'ship winner with Magherafelt and Maghery before that. Currently a free agent.
Peter Canavan - Tyrone Manager in waiting? Former Fermanagh. Said not to be interested in Tyrone job as long as his sons are there.
Niall Jackman - UUJ coach and Antrim U20 Manager and did a good job.
Matt McGleenan - Former club manager in Monaghan and Cavan Manager. Currently managing a Tyrone club.
John McKeever - Successful schools manager and currently managing an Antrim Club.
Mark Doran - Coached Down under Paddy Tally. Currently managing in Monaghan.
Benny Coulter - Managing a Down club - Gaining a reputation as a top coach.
Peter Donnelly - Tyrone and Ulster Rugby coach and currently managing a Dublin club.
Hugh McGettigan - Former Antrim coach and U20 Manager. Currently managing an Antrim club.
Greg Blayney - Down legend and former Down senior coach. Currently coaches at underage.

Antrim needs to think outside the box on this one. Any others?


Whoever decides to throw their name in the hat, unless they have a structured plan, where they are going to oversee the development of underage (probably starting with minors) then forget about it. We will be pissing into the wind again. Plus the fact our underage development squads are atrocious so there is no conveyor belt going to add to the senior set up for the next couple of years, so be best to build the foundation before anything else

BS has an axe to grind for whatever reason. EMG done more than most recent managers with a very limited panel come the finish up and still is lambasted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 11:12:56 AM
Points duly noted ITG, and I genuinely mean it gives me zero pleasure in having to point out the facts to some people who either don't get it or just plainly don't want to see it.

Yes we won some good games during Endas time, and those were acknowledged, but some of those wins were easily reversed in year two by teams we had previously accounted for when management fell short of installing even the most basic principles of coaching or management. That's my opinion - feel free to debate, that's what this "discussion forum" is about.

I believe there is a core of 25 players who are good enough to keep us competitive in div 3. No doubt about that. The fact that (as you rightly highlight) we won 3 and drew one game in Div 3 actually confirms my confidence in that regard. We just need the man who can pull things together, keep players intact, and get the basics right.

And that dosent paper over the need for major surgery beneath the surface at underage. But it doesn't need to be one or the other - the two projects need to stand on their own merit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 11:18:09 AM
I am not sold that you should ever have expected the same from a manager who is really cutting his cloth with a manager who has three all irelands (in a county who had none before him), multiple underage all irelands and club honours at ulster level. I wasn't sure that was totally a fair comparison but that's my opinion.

I honestly think the Cavan game killed us and while the Leitrim game was hugely disappointing for me I honestly think the wheels had come off at tht stage and comparing that with the year before I am not sure is like for like.

FWIW I agree with a lot of what you say. I just think two things - calling wins we had as lucky takes away any credit at all when some is merited (despite the wheels firmly falling off yes) and I also am not sure about the expectations you set. I get you seem glass half full which is admirable but we need some degree of realism too and with the manager list we have listed here I think we need more realism...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
One of the things that are truly bizarre in life are people who talk like they can see the future and predict things, but at the same hvae this wonderful ability to see whats on the end of their nose, but funnily enough don't take their own club team. I have always wonder that, one of the great unanswered questions of the GAA. Such great knowledgeable people you would think would be in demand or have won notable championships. Now thats another bizarre thig as well, however this part is not confined to Gaa as I hear that in the pub every weekend when the lads were trying to tell me that Arsense Wenger hadn't a clue.  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wolfetones on June 09, 2022, 11:29:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 10:01:10 AM
ITG, I think if you look back at any of my posts during Endas tenure I gave plenty of credit where it was due and acknowledged the occasions when performances were good.

But I flagged up well over a year ago that our defence was a shambles. People came to a lazy conclusion that was because ND wasn't featuring - which is simply wrong. I saw good natural half forwards trying to perform primary roles in defence - which they weren't used to or had ever played before ( Dermot and Jordy for example) and Eoghan who played mostly HF all his life bring converted to CB which is a highly specialist position. I saw Ricky getting no protection whatsoever (think Sam Mulroy) and when Decky Lynch was left one in one with Niall Murphy against Sligo. Crazy stuff.

Then I look at CM on the bench, RM our biggest scoring threat, being utilised as a workhorse around the middle, and a reliance on OE to be our main ball winner and threat - match after match - while all could see this wasn't working.

Defensively a shambles. Forward play a shambles. I'm sorry, I just couldn't see much to like, and I wondered what the hell were SON and SK doing. Tbh they don't come out of this well either.

I saw this coming a long way back and got a bit of a roasting for having the audacity to call it out a year ago. But the chickens came home to roost, and I don't think anyone here with any understanding of football can even think about questioning that.

All of the above is fair enough comment but you called the mans integrity into question which shows that it's personal with you and not based on the above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
One of the things that are truly bizarre in life are people who talk like they can see the future and predict things, but at the same hvae this wonderful ability to see whats on the end of their nose, but funnily enough don't take their own club team. I have always wonder that, one of the great unanswered questions of the GAA. Such great knowledgeable people you would think would be in demand or have won notable championships. Now thats another bizarre thig as well, however this part is not confined to Gaa as I hear that in the pub every weekend when the lads were trying to tell me that Arsense Wenger hadn't a clue.  ::)

How many on here have taken their senior teams? I'd say very little, how many have taken any senior team? Again very little I'd assume, with that we have no problems telling people how it should be done, funny that or bizarre 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 10:01:10 AM
ITG, I think if you look back at any of my posts during Endas tenure I gave plenty of credit where it was due and acknowledged the occasions when performances were good.

But I flagged up well over a year ago that our defence was a shambles. People came to a lazy conclusion that was because ND wasn't featuring - which is simply wrong. I saw good natural half forwards trying to perform primary roles in defence - which they weren't used to or had ever played before ( Dermot and Jordy for example) and Eoghan who played mostly HF all his life bring converted to CB which is a highly specialist position. I saw Ricky getting no protection whatsoever (think Sam Mulroy) and when Decky Lynch was left one in one with Niall Murphy against Sligo. Crazy stuff.

Then I look at CM on the bench, RM our biggest scoring threat, being utilised as a workhorse around the middle, and a reliance on OE to be our main ball winner and threat - match after match - while all could see this wasn't working.

Defensively a shambles. Forward play a shambles. I'm sorry, I just couldn't see much to like, and I wondered what the hell were SON and SK doing. Tbh they don't come out of this well either.

I saw this coming a long way back and got a bit of a roasting for having the audacity to call it out a year ago. But the chickens came home to roost, and I don't think anyone here with any understanding of football can even think about questioning that.
When you are explaining you are losing, case closed on this one.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 12:39:39 PM
Was that aimed I'm my direction by any chance DK. In which case I must really be in your head at this stage. Relax, there's people you can talk to about these kind of things.

You really haven't been the same since you called PG1 out as chokers. And you know what happened then!

Look, why don't you throw us out your own managing highlights and let us see whether you're a man for the next Antrim job or best suited to listening to your pub mates at the weekend.

Go ahead first and I'll follow. No I didn't think so.....lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 12:42:35 PM
Oh right. EOC says the case is closed. Must mean you agree with the content, or you would be debating it. On those grounds I'm happy to park it up at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 09, 2022, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
One of the things that are truly bizarre in life are people who talk like they can see the future and predict things, but at the same hvae this wonderful ability to see whats on the end of their nose, but funnily enough don't take their own club team. I have always wonder that, one of the great unanswered questions of the GAA. Such great knowledgeable people you would think would be in demand or have won notable championships. Now thats another bizarre thig as well, however this part is not confined to Gaa as I hear that in the pub every weekend when the lads were trying to tell me that Arsense Wenger hadn't a clue.  ::)

How many on here have taken their senior teams? I'd say very little, how many have taken any senior team? Again very little I'd assume, with that we have no problems telling people how it should be done, funny that or bizarre

Now here is a surprise.....I agree with MR2......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 09, 2022, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 09, 2022, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
One of the things that are truly bizarre in life are people who talk like they can see the future and predict things, but at the same hvae this wonderful ability to see whats on the end of their nose, but funnily enough don't take their own club team. I have always wonder that, one of the great unanswered questions of the GAA. Such great knowledgeable people you would think would be in demand or have won notable championships. Now thats another bizarre thig as well, however this part is not confined to Gaa as I hear that in the pub every weekend when the lads were trying to tell me that Arsense Wenger hadn't a clue.  ::)

How many on here have taken their senior teams? I'd say very little, how many have taken any senior team? Again very little I'd assume, with that we have no problems telling people how it should be done, funny that or bizarre

Now here is a surprise.....I agree with MR2......

Jesus  wheres the nearest defib !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 09, 2022, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 09, 2022, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
One of the things that are truly bizarre in life are people who talk like they can see the future and predict things, but at the same hvae this wonderful ability to see whats on the end of their nose, but funnily enough don't take their own club team. I have always wonder that, one of the great unanswered questions of the GAA. Such great knowledgeable people you would think would be in demand or have won notable championships. Now thats another bizarre thig as well, however this part is not confined to Gaa as I hear that in the pub every weekend when the lads were trying to tell me that Arsense Wenger hadn't a clue.  ::)

How many on here have taken their senior teams? I'd say very little, how many have taken any senior team? Again very little I'd assume, with that we have no problems telling people how it should be done, funny that or bizarre

Now here is a surprise.....I agree with MR2......

I agree with the McCooey also.

Some of the posts on here are laughable!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 01:14:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 12:42:35 PM
Oh right. EOC says the case is closed. Must mean you agree with the content, or you would be debating it. On those grounds I'm happy to park it up at this stage.
No don't agree with any of the content, on the county scene or the club scene for that matter. Delusional on both fronts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2022, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 09, 2022, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 11:24:43 AM
One of the things that are truly bizarre in life are people who talk like they can see the future and predict things, but at the same hvae this wonderful ability to see whats on the end of their nose, but funnily enough don't take their own club team. I have always wonder that, one of the great unanswered questions of the GAA. Such great knowledgeable people you would think would be in demand or have won notable championships. Now thats another bizarre thig as well, however this part is not confined to Gaa as I hear that in the pub every weekend when the lads were trying to tell me that Arsense Wenger hadn't a clue.  ::)

How many on here have taken their senior teams? I'd say very little, how many have taken any senior team? Again very little I'd assume, with that we have no problems telling people how it should be done, funny that or bizarre

Now here is a surprise.....I agree with MR2......

I agree with the McCooey also.

Some of the posts on here are laughable!!

Never take yourself or here to serious PJ, just banter ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 01:35:06 PM
Right EOC, you are entitled to agree or disagree re content on whether or not previous management got best out of our defence and forward line. I'm happy to maintain the opposite view, that's opinion.

But you've lost me with the delusional comment! Club and County. Would you care to tell me what this is about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 01:53:11 PM
County level - McGinley was lucky to get us out of Division 3 (no credit given) --- Lenny was unlucky not to get us out of Division 4 (with heaps of credit given)
Club level- Portglenone are championship contenders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 09, 2022, 02:03:13 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 09, 2022, 02:12:19 PM
A bit of nepotism from BS is both forgivable and understandable that it sways the emotions.  Cannot blame the man for that at all. Both the wins and losses were overstated and neither were deserving of the exuberant praise nor overly harsh critique.               I think it is churlish to give EMG no credit for finally getting us out of the basement division by whatever means - tight wins for Antrim aren't lucky (we are by no means a county that has the good fortune to hammer teams by large margins on a regular basis). They are hard earned wins and usually could go either way.    Personally i thought Antrim played some really good football all season (apart from louth and cavan) but struggled to maintain it throughout an entire game. leitrim was a run out for the squad and the goose had been cooked by that stage.   Both limerick and westmeath games had great moments but we always looked like conceding goals, even against fermanagh.   We appear to neither have the personnel to carry out a blanket defence nor an attacking game and are caught somewhere in the middle. 

Not confirmed yet but I suspect a lot of the over 30s could call it a day.

I would say Div 3 survival is the main aim for the new manager unless he can solve the conundrum of the full back line and replace missing squad members.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 09, 2022, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 09, 2022, 02:12:19 PM
A bit of nepotism from BS is both forgivable and understandable that it sways the emotions.  Cannot blame the man for that at all. Both the wins and losses were overstated and neither were deserving of the exuberant praise nor overly harsh critique.               I think it is churlish to give EMG no credit for finally getting us out of the basement division by whatever means - tight wins for Antrim aren't lucky (we are by no means a county that has the good fortune to hammer teams by large margins on a regular basis). They are hard earned wins and usually could go either way.    Personally i thought Antrim played some really good football all season (apart from louth and cavan) but struggled to maintain it throughout an entire game. leitrim was a run out for the squad and the goose had been cooked by that stage.   Both limerick and westmeath games had great moments but we always looked like conceding goals, even against fermanagh.   We appear to neither have the personnel to carry out a blanket defence nor an attacking game and are caught somewhere in the middle. 

Not confirmed yet but I suspect a lot of the over 30s could call it a day.

I would say Div 3 survival is the main aim for the new manager unless he can solve the conundrum of the full back line and replace missing squad members.   

Perhaps the blueprint has been given to us by the last couple of league campaigns - start the league on fire to get points on the board and hope for the best thereafter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 02:16:41 PM
One at a time.

Lenny very very unlucky. If you were in Carrick on Shannon you've have known that, but no, your recent interest on the county senior panel wasn't involved....so you weren't there. Robbed by a ref, lost by a point, that was what cost Lenny that year. Yes the same Leitrim that toyed with us.

In Lenny's last year we had one foot up, (remember we beat Limerick by 14 in PG1 - the same Limerick that tanked us this year) but Covid kicked in. We stopped training but Wicklow didn't. Fact. That's what cost Lenny promotion.

Then Lennys Antrim gave Ulster champions in waiting Cavan their absolute fill of it in a memorable performance in Breffni   Park. Yes the same Cavan who toyed with us in fortress Corrigan this year.

So I think Lenny deserved a lot of credit, even though it wasn't foot perfect. Yet plenty from these parts slow to get behind him. The irony of it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 02:20:43 PM
Portglenone as contenders. My only comment is that we are now probably a top 3 club. Yes Im on us EW at 12/1 for c'ship, after I saw the draw. Not counting chickens but odds were too big.

If you think any of that's delusional then I'd say you are by now in a minority.

Anything else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 02:21:42 PM
DK, any word of that CV. Come on now, don't be shy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 09, 2022, 02:35:56 PM
Jesus, there is some difference in atmosphere on the football board compared to the hurling board!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 02:45:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 02:16:41 PM
One at a time.

Lenny very very unlucky. If you were in Carrick on Shannon you've have known that, but no, your recent interest on the county senior panel wasn't involved....so you weren't there. Robbed by a ref, lost by a point, that was what cost Lenny that year. Yes the same Leitrim that toyed with us.

In Lenny's last year we had one foot up, (remember we beat Limerick by 14 in PG1 - the same Limerick that tanked us this year) but Covid kicked in. We stopped training but Wicklow didn't. Fact. That's what cost Lenny promotion.

Then Lennys Antrim gave Ulster champions in waiting Cavan their absolute fill of it in a memorable performance in Breffni   Park. Yes the same Cavan who toyed with us in fortress Corrigan this year.

So I think Lenny deserved a lot of credit, even though it wasn't foot perfect. Yet plenty from these parts slow to get behind him. The irony of it all.
All this delusion, Antrim were 'unlucky' to loss to Derry in Division 4, recently. Is that the same Derry team that won Ulster this season?
No it wasn't, teams change year on year. So the Limerick team of Feb 2020 is the same Limerick team who tanked us in March 2022. Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 03:01:53 PM
Spike, a voice of reason. I think you've got the nail right on the head tbh.

It can be a bit of both. Credit can be given for promotion whilst anyone with an ounce of common sense knows there was a degree of luck. Large degree v small degree, your choice. 

As you say, we could often see two Antrims in one game! We could be coasting only to see wheels flying everywhere!

New management has a challenge but the players are there to meet that. A team that got 7 points in that division last year must have something to back that up.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 03:05:11 PM
The Limerick team of 2020 were flying top of Div 4 with four wins out if four. Just saying. But there you go again, totally trying to rubbish the work Lenny did. Beating them by 14 was a huge performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
BS for the record I think Lenny deserves a lot of credit for his stint and I didn't intend on turning this into a witch hunt on you as I respect your opinions -  just a few on the McGinley front didn't sit right with me. That is all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 03:21:45 PM
That's fair enough ITG, all good.

I saw your post and I started thinking about how much luck was actually involved and then that took on a life of it's own.

If you walk into a bookies and ask what are the odds on your team winning by exactly one point. Easy enough. About 10/1. What are the odds on any score under pressure from 40 yards outside the scoring zone. About 3/1. And what are the odds on it being the very last kick of the game, hardly time for their keeper to kick the ball out - about 5/1. (Just a guess -I found that hard to work out). What would those odds be?

Then multiply those odds by three (X occasions). Never mind three in a row, that's a different story.

All I know is that's one huge stat, and you'de have as good a chance at winning the lottery!

And we would all call that lucky......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 03:05:11 PM
The Limerick team of 2020 were flying top of Div 4 with four wins out if four. Just saying. But there you go again, totally trying to rubbish the work Lenny did. Beating them by 14 was a huge performance.
Lennys league tenure - all in Division 4 - 55% win rate
McGinleys league games - Inc one season in Div 3 - 73% win rate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
That was an impressive statistic, not debating that for a second. It's the 0% of wins in the last four games that brought up this discussion.

Or the average of 7 points loss per game across those 4 games if you want to dive into the detail.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 09, 2022, 04:38:32 PM
does anyone no why mcginley quit? it is really very good info for the next manger to know and the county board. after 2 years in charge he can privde good insights
take antrim from 4 to 3 is success - too much negativity here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 09, 2022, 05:02:34 PM
I have to add my twopence here but BS is bang on the money on his analysis IMO. He hasn't uttered a single inaccurate word regarding the senior footballers and management. After some promise the wheels came off. Players leaving the squad rang alarm bells for me. Never a good sign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: ck on June 09, 2022, 05:02:34 PM
I have to add my twopence here but BS is bang on the money on his analysis IMO. He hasn't uttered a single inaccurate word regarding the senior footballers and management. After some promise the wheels came off. Players leaving the squad rang alarm bells for me. Never a good sign.
Why not aim this at the players who left rather than the management. Like the full back dropping you in it to go to America the week of a championship game, your goalie throwing the head up as the back up goalie got some game time at the end of the league. Other established players not making themselves available. These are player commitment issues not management issues CK. Ended poorly for Antrims management and another year wasn't going to work out, I agree with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 06:40:10 PM
EOC coming out now to agree that another year wasn't going to work out for EMG - there was me going thinking I was in a minority on this... That's good, it's great when you hear your own words finally coming back.

Re player walk out. There had to be a reason why so many took this route. Did anyone think of asking the players themselves?

Paddy Gallagher didn't walk out. He'd have walked through a brick wall to be on that squad, a definite starter for the three or four years beforehand, still only 29 at the time, and wasn't given the respect of even a trial. That set a bad tone for me from week one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 09, 2022, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: ck on June 09, 2022, 05:02:34 PM
I have to add my twopence here but BS is bang on the money on his analysis IMO. He hasn't uttered a single inaccurate word regarding the senior footballers and management. After some promise the wheels came off. Players leaving the squad rang alarm bells for me. Never a good sign.
Why not aim this at the players who left rather than the management. Like the full back dropping you in it to go to America the week of a championship game, your goalie throwing the head up as the back up goalie got some game time at the end of the league. Other established players not making themselves available. These are player commitment issues not management issues CK. Ended poorly for Antrims management and another year wasn't going to work out, I agree with that.

Jeez PG1 had three players invited to join the Antrim squat at the outset of Enda's tenure....only one made himself available...!

BS, told this board in a matter of words that they, those who did not answer the call, that they wished to concentrate on club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 06:40:10 PM
EOC coming out now to agree that another year wasn't going to work out for EMG - there was me going thinking I was in a minority on this... That's good, it's great when you hear your own words finally coming back.

Re player walk out. There had to be a reason why so many took this route. Did anyone think of asking the players themselves?

Paddy Gallagher didn't walk out. He'd have walked through a brick wall to be on that squad, a definite starter for the three or four years beforehand, still only 29 at the time, and wasn't given the respect of even a trial. That set a bad tone for me from week one.
Wasn't going to work because of the lack of commitment from some players, no other reason.
You need to let it go BS, another average enough player into the starting lineup wouldn't of helped I don't think, but I'm sure the new man will give him a chance if he wants it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 06:40:10 PM
EOC coming out now to agree that another year wasn't going to work out for EMG - there was me going thinking I was in a minority on this... That's good, it's great when you hear your own words finally coming back.

Re player walk out. There had to be a reason why so many took this route. Did anyone think of asking the players themselves?

Paddy Gallagher didn't walk out. He'd have walked through a brick wall to be on that squad, a definite starter for the three or four years beforehand, still only 29 at the time, and wasn't given the respect of even a trial. That set a bad tone for me from week one.

That makes it sound like you had your mind made up before things had even started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 09:39:11 PM
Once again you go disrespecting the previous manager who did rate him. And I can assure you seeing that it was before you started going regularly, that PG rarely let us down. But go ahead and tell us that in your opinion he is average.

He may or may not have started all the time, but was huge on leadership and was first to arrive at training every night. A model panellist and very popular amongst the squad. Gassed without even a trial or a thank you after 10 years of sterling service. Simply shocking.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 09:40:23 PM
No definitely not ITG. Was hoping it would work, but that was a bad start you have to admit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:52:39 PM
Should he not have been coming in with a clean slate and making his own decisions ?  The luck and this are two things that I don't see as being particularly objective tbh. I mean first to arrive at training every night - really? I used to be first at training near every night - still was no good at football!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 09, 2022, 10:31:11 PM
Football can be harsh, tough decisions made and managers cannot please everyone. No one denies that ITG but there's a way of doing it. PG got badly treated, there's no nice way of dressing that up.

Most of the players who toiled with him over the years for the county will attest to that. It wasn't new managements finest moment, let's put it that way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on June 09, 2022, 10:37:12 PM
The Management had virtually everyone of the top 40 odd players in Antrim available to them. There was virtually no one who made themselves unavailable from the outset. Some weren't selected, some after year 1 retired, some didn't make themselves available, some were dropped & some dropped out throughout the year. Part of management is to mould what you have into a cohesive unit greater than the sum of the parts. Get buy into your philosophy and systems of play. Improve and develop players. Out of the 40 odd we ended up with around 20 plus 5 or 6 under 20's for the final game.

How did we end up with around 20 out of the 40/45 that were originally available or drafted in @ the start of year 2.
Can anyone name 3 or 4 players who you would say developed a reasonable amount over the 2 years?
Can anyone identify an area of our play that showed marked improvement?
From what I could see we had most of our better players available at the begining (not always the case for Antrim managers) got fitter and beat the teams around us and a few above. There isn't a huge difference between the top half of division 4 and the bottom half of Div 3. We played most of the weaker Div 3 teams at the start of the league and picked up points. When we hit the slightly stronger teams it really exposed our setup. We basically didn't have one and didn't know how to deal with teams who were well setup.
Credit for getting out of Div 4 and staying in Div 3. However there was no sign of the building blocks and basics being put in place to move on.
At the end we ended up with half a squad who looked like they were rounded up on the morning of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 09, 2022, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 09, 2022, 10:31:11 PM
Football can be harsh, tough decisions made and managers cannot please everyone. No one denies that ITG but there's a way of doing it. PG got badly treated, there's no nice way of dressing that up.

Most of the players who toiled with him over the years for the county will attest to that. It wasn't new managements finest moment, let's put it that way.
What did you want them to do, have a wee going away party for him? Wise up BS, you are actually doing PG a disservice yourself substituting him in for what your real gripe is, shame on you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 09, 2022, 10:55:43 PM
The outgoing management team deserve acknowledgment and respect for what they achieved, promotion from 4 and comfortably retaining place in Div 3, I don't but into the 'luck' theory but also totally respect Bannside's view; he saw that team more than any of us over the last two seasons and more.

But the Cavan championship match was a real low point, it was irredeemable and inexcusable. And on championship outings managers will ultimately be judged. We knew we weren't going to win Ulster but we were entitled to think we would be competitive against Cavan.

It's a hard job, almost thankless, and no one sets out to get it wrong. Good luck, goodbye Enda and co.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2022, 07:42:20 AM
Yeah I would share a lot of those views Brendan. It didn't work out in the end and we have to move on and that's it really. We at least are in division three at the end of it and that really puts us in make or break position because it will be tough to stay up with Cavan and tipp coming up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 10, 2022, 08:05:17 AM
Tougher gig this incoming season for the next man with harder teams in Div 3, but if staying up the only expectation they could hit the ground running early hopefully pick up points. Likes of Cavan will have the advantage of continuity whereas as we will be starting from scratch. All the best to whoever it is and thanks to outgoing management. Now for the club season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 10, 2022, 08:38:07 AM
Quote from: Flanker on June 09, 2022, 10:37:12 PM
The Management had virtually everyone of the top 40 odd players in Antrim available to them. There was virtually no one who made themselves unavailable from the outset. Some weren't selected, some after year 1 retired, some didn't make themselves available, some were dropped & some dropped out throughout the year. Part of management is to mould what you have into a cohesive unit greater than the sum of the parts. Get buy into your philosophy and systems of play. Improve and develop players. Out of the 40 odd we ended up with around 20 plus 5 or 6 under 20's for the final game.

How did we end up with around 20 out of the 40/45 that were originally available or drafted in @ the start of year 2.
Can anyone name 3 or 4 players who you would say developed a reasonable amount over the 2 years?
Can anyone identify an area of our play that showed marked improvement?
From what I could see we had most of our better players available at the begining (not always the case for Antrim managers) got fitter and beat the teams around us and a few above. There isn't a huge difference between the top half of division 4 and the bottom half of Div 3. We played most of the weaker Div 3 teams at the start of the league and picked up points. When we hit the slightly stronger teams it really exposed our setup. We basically didn't have one and didn't know how to deal with teams who were well setup.
Credit for getting out of Div 4 and staying in Div 3. However there was no sign of the building blocks and basics being put in place to move on.
At the end we ended up with half a squad who looked like they were rounded up on the morning of the game

A damning piece Flanker but I am afraid you build your argument on a less than stable foundation.
Your argument is based on the fundamental that we do have a thriving club scene within.
Cannot see that within most units and wish you would reveal such evidence.

With the notable exception of a few other is absolutely no evidence of visible green shoots of growth within.
Of course there are a few excellent under age sides at under 13/15:but it is folly to state a big future awaits.
Only a few teams look potential challengers for the minor/u17 title.

So from where are the potential new management to recruit those 'building blocks' required to build a better future.

Will the next man in charge expected to teach the recruits to Saffron the basics.

A player asked to don the county jersey should be fully aware of the basics and well prepared within the club/college scene.
Ask yourself are clubs in our county all on that journey which is a fundamental requirement for one who will embark on a journey at the higher level.
As a friend of mine used to say "lose the fundamental, lose the argument".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
"Flankers post is based on the fundamental that we have a thriving club scene ". It's not based on that at all. How the hell could anybody read his post and possibly come to that conclusion??

Flanker makes plenty of valid points, but apologists for the outgoing either can't see or don't want to see - therefore avoid the content and jump on a different (diversory tactic alert) topic - like under 13s or something random.

If CB is to be believed we have no players now and no manager will want us. Jesus Wept! This is getting tiresome (and I am to blame for this too) so I'm moving on from this topic.

Some good club games on this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 10, 2022, 09:49:01 AM
So the problem I see within all those hugely well equipped posters on this board in tactical awareness combined with a huge wealth of coaching experience can look within their own club and excuse the lack of silverware within.
And indeed, in most cases no glimpse of such on the horizon.

Jesus does indeed weep....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 10:08:45 AM
I can only assume this is pointed at my direction and at Portglenone. Your point has been noted and filed for future reference. Your contempt and condescension does your club no favours.

As I said before, Cargin is the template. Have a nice weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2022, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 10, 2022, 10:08:45 AM
I can only assume this is pointed at my direction and at Portglenone. Your point has been noted and filed for future reference. Your contempt and condescension does your club no favours.

As I said before, Cargin is the template. Have a nice weekend.

For what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 10:39:02 AM
Consistently over a long period, bringing two or three quality players through each year and accumulating silverware on a regular basis. About to launch new facilities and lots of good stuff going on around Erin's Own. Some great Gaels too.

Hard to question that MR.

The challenge is to attempt to match and/or surpass. For what it's worth I like what is now going on around PG1, and have no doubt this club will only get stronger.

If all club's could even find 10% improvement year in year it's amazing the difference it would make.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 10, 2022, 10:39:02 AM
Consistently over a long period, bringing two or three quality players through each year and accumulating silverware on a regular basis. About to launch new facilities and lots of good stuff going on around Erin's Own. Some great Gaels too.

Hard to question that MR.

The challenge is to attempt to match and/or surpass. For what it's worth I like what is now going on around PG1, and have no doubt this club will only get stronger.

If all club's could even find 10% improvement year in year it's amazing the difference it would make.

So you think the standard in Antrim club football has dropped or getting better?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 11:24:46 AM
Definitely dropped, without a doubt. But it's more about a top 4 or top 6 now, games much more interesting, but no team atm would get close to the St Galls or Cargin of a decade ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on June 10, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 10, 2022, 09:49:01 AM
So the problem I see within all those hugely well equipped posters on this board in tactical awareness combined with a huge wealth of coaching experience can look within their own club and excuse the lack of silverware within.
And indeed, in most cases no glimpse of such on the horizon.

Jesus does indeed weep....
CB if you measure everything in silverware then the vast majority of teams will be failures most of the time.

As a county we are unlikely to see silverware anytime soon.

Nobody said we had a thriving club scene

It doesn't mean we shouldn't have an expectation of maximising the potential of what we have.

You watch and report on plenty of games. You will see setups that are maximising potential and plenty that aren't.

I'm sure you can see the difference.

There was a clear coaching deficit in the setup which highlights the importance of the full management team.

It is over now but it may draw attention to the importance of the backroom teams and supporting cast in future management teams as well

Time to move on

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 10, 2022, 01:57:14 PM
Yes time to draw a line under this folks.   Some will feel progress was made over the past 2 years culminating in comfortable survival in Div 3 with anyone of talent in Antrim on the squad (one i agree with), others will feel it ended as a shambles with many leaving the panel and an inept performance in the Tailteann cup summarising the lack of progress.

Agree to disagree but its over now and we move on......together,

My hope is the county board go for the best man for the job and not the cheap option.  The hurlers get managers from munster and other strongholds so why are we not afforded the same?  It is hard to know who is seriously in for the antrim job, and while we obviously don't have the budget of other counties we should still be aiming high. I like the sound of people of the calibre of Paddy Tally, Peter Canavan or Steven Poacher etc but how realistic that is is another thing.

In regard to the senior panel, these players have only so much more learning they can do due to their age and no superstars are upcoming so they need a system to work to and a massive upsurge in physicality to counteract their limitations of decision making.

After that it is a massive investment in nursery to minors, particularly u12s and below.  Difficult i know but more coaches with a suitable knowledge level (usually attained through courses) as opposed to the lone but hopeful parent, with little football knowledge  who got landed with the u12s team because no one else wanted the job.

We are at that juncture where standing still or just doing enough to get by will leave us having this same conversation in 20 years time (Note we have had this  same conversation for the past 20 years!).  We think we are doing enough but we are really just getting by.  We are doing no more than anyone else in any other county and that is simply not enough.                   If players acquire the core skills early, the physicality programme from u14s upwards will put them on par with the tyrones of this world by the time they are u17.         A new County-wide Antrim-Specific system developed with full club buy in, aided by our primary schools, assisted heavily by Gaelfast funding  / coaching presence is needed urgently.  A development plan that every club must follow (to the best they can).         it'll take time but will be worth it. Have we in Antrim the patience for that?   

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 10, 2022, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: Spike on June 10, 2022, 01:57:14 PM
Yes time to draw a line under this folks.   Some will feel progress was made over the past 2 years culminating in comfortable survival in Div 3 with anyone of talent in Antrim on the squad (one i agree with), others will feel it ended as a shambles with many leaving the panel and an inept performance in the Tailteann cup summarising the lack of progress.

Agree to disagree but its over now and we move on......together,

My hope is the county board go for the best man for the job and not the cheap option.  The hurlers get managers from munster and other strongholds so why are we not afforded the same?  It is hard to know who is seriously in for the antrim job, and while we obviously don't have the budget of other counties we should still be aiming high. I like the sound of people of the calibre of Paddy Tally, Peter Canavan or Steven Poacher etc but how realistic that is is another thing.

In regard to the senior panel, these players have only so much more learning they can do due to their age and no superstars are upcoming so they need a system to work to and a massive upsurge in physicality to counteract their limitations of decision making.

After that it is a massive investment in nursery to minors, particularly u12s and below.  Difficult i know but more coaches with a suitable knowledge level (usually attained through courses) as opposed to the lone but hopeful parent, with little football knowledge  who got landed with the u12s team because no one else wanted the job.

We are at that juncture where standing still or just doing enough to get by will leave us having this same conversation in 20 years time (Note we have had this  same conversation for the past 20 years!).  We think we are doing enough but we are really just getting by.  We are doing no more than anyone else in any other county and that is simply not enough.                   If players acquire the core skills early, the physicality programme from u14s upwards will put them on par with the tyrones of this world by the time they are u17.         A new County-wide Antrim-Specific system developed with full club buy in, aided by our primary schools, assisted heavily by Gaelfast funding  / coaching presence is needed urgently.  A development plan that every club must follow (to the best they can).         it'll take time but will be worth it. Have we in Antrim the patience for that?

Well said Spike, especially that last paragraph.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 10, 2022, 02:27:42 PM
And still we have no idea about the DOF, his strategy, remit, current focus and priorities etc. Does anyone know what that role is about yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 10, 2022, 02:50:34 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on June 10, 2022, 02:27:42 PM
And still we have no idea about the DOF, his strategy, remit, current focus and priorities etc. Does anyone know what that role is about yet?

Have we a DOF at present.....?
.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Great post Spike. Happy to move on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 03:08:00 PM
Re DOF, the post was awarded to GA, maybe a little prematurely or without necessary understanding or agreed level of buy in. Possibly GA's personal situation has changed, and if so the lack of activity (or communication thereof) is understandable. Best not to make rash judgements in this regard.

County officers are aware that this is a priority so we should expect movement in this area - exactly when it's hard to know.

On this point (juvenile development) apparently there is good quality coaching going on every Saturday at Dunsilly, where some excellent higher profile coaches are circulating between the squads and apparently the quality is of a high level. I plan to nip up and take a peek - a very welcome development I'm led to believe.

That, and apparently a decent ongoing push from county officers to source the next man, gives cause for genuine optimism.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 10, 2022, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 10, 2022, 03:08:00 PM
Re DOF, the post was awarded to GA, maybe a little prematurely or without necessary understanding or agreed level of buy in. Possibly GA's personal situation has changed, and if so the lack of activity (or communication thereof) is understandable. Best not to make rash judgements in this regard.

County officers are aware that this is a priority so we should expect movement in this area - exactly when it's hard to know.

On this point (juvenile development) apparently there is good quality coaching going on every Saturday at Dunsilly, where some excellent higher profile coaches are circulating between the squads and apparently the quality is of a high level. I plan to nip up and take a peek - a very welcome development I'm led to believe.

That, and apparently a decent ongoing push from county officers to source the next man, gives cause for genuine optimism.

Yeah they had Conleith Gilligan up here at Dunsilly the other week with the development squads.

I missed it unfortunately but i've heard it was a very good session for the lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 10, 2022, 04:01:24 PM
Indeed Barnish. Conleith some operator too, tied in with Kilcoo for a couple of years. Heard Kevin Bradys name mentioned as well. Good initiative.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 08:48:11 AM
Had a good yarn with GA a few weeks past and he told me he was aware of the negative comments directed towards him.
He told me personal circumstances had contrived to make him step away from that post a good time since.

Has he returned since to the role or are apologies forthcoming....?
A great servant to club and county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on June 11, 2022, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 08:48:11 AM
Had a good yarn with GA a few weeks past and he told me he was aware of the negative comments directed towards him.
He told me personal circumstances had contrived to make him step away from that post a good time since.

Has he returned since to the role or are apologies forthcoming....?
A great servant to club and county.

Are the Directors Of Hurling and Football paid roles within the County?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 11, 2022, 10:06:05 AM
No, they are voluntary. I'd imagine expenses are available, not sure if NP collects his for hurling.

Watched an exhibition of underage football last night at an under 13 game. Really happy with what's coming through here, the drive started by Paul Mc Keever (RIP) and half a dozen very committed others at under 6 now starting to flourish. Very content with the conveyor belt that's building nicely in PG1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 10:26:52 AM
It's great that there's a change on the board for some who would have no problems giving volunteers within the county stick and now backing them and looking for apologies.

Let's keep it going
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 11, 2022, 10:46:34 AM
HOMEFIT ACFL DIV 1
Sun 12 Jun 20221 00 PMKickhams GAC Creggan---v---Roger Casements PortglenoneKickhams GAC CregganBrendan Toland
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMNaomh Eoin---v---O`Donovan RossaCorrigan ParkDarren McKeown
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMClann na hÉireann Carraigin---v---Lamh DheargErin's Own CarginColm McDonald
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMNaomh Bríd---v---Naomh ÉannaMusgrave ParkConall Roberts
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Muire Achadh EochaillePáirc Mhic IonnrachtaighCathal Mc Dermott
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Tír na nÓg RandalstownNaomh GallKevin Parke

lOT OF TIGHTS GAMES TOMORROW, THAT ST GALLS TIR NO NOG A HUGE GAME, A WIN WOULD PROBABLY BE ENOUGH TO SECURE GALLS BUT IF RANDALSTOWN WIN THAT WILL BE SOME SCAMBLE FOR POITS FOR GALLS, AHOGHILL AND TIR NO NOG OVER THE LAST FEW GAMES.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 11, 2022, 01:40:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 11, 2022, 10:06:05 AM
No, they are voluntary. I'd imagine expenses are available, not sure if NP collects his for hurling.

Watched an exhibition of underage football last night at an under 13 game. Really happy with what's coming through here, the drive started by Paul Mc Keever (RIP) and half a dozen very committed others at under 6 now starting to flourish. Very content with the conveyor belt that's building nicely in PG1.
An excellent team BS I saw them myself 2 weeks ago, possibly one of best in ulster at this age serous credit to their coaches. Is this a one off group or what are your 7s 9s, 11s 15s and 17s like in comparison.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on June 11, 2022, 02:58:26 PM

Very strange appointment having McDermot reffing the GNM v Ahoghill game, surely Ahoghill dropping points would do TNN a big favour


Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 11, 2022, 10:46:34 AM
HOMEFIT ACFL DIV 1
Sun 12 Jun 20221 00 PMKickhams GAC Creggan---v---Roger Casements PortglenoneKickhams GAC CregganBrendan Toland
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMNaomh Eoin---v---O`Donovan RossaCorrigan ParkDarren McKeown
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMClann na hÉireann Carraigin---v---Lamh DheargErin's Own CarginColm McDonald
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMNaomh Bríd---v---Naomh ÉannaMusgrave ParkConall Roberts
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Muire Achadh EochaillePáirc Mhic IonnrachtaighCathal Mc Dermott
Sun 12 Jun 20222 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Tír na nÓg RandalstownNaomh GallKevin Parke

lOT OF TIGHTS GAMES TOMORROW, THAT ST GALLS TIR NO NOG A HUGE GAME, A WIN WOULD PROBABLY BE ENOUGH TO SECURE GALLS BUT IF RANDALSTOWN WIN THAT WILL BE SOME SCAMBLE FOR POITS FOR GALLS, AHOGHILL AND TIR NO NOG OVER THE LAST FEW GAMES.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 11, 2022, 05:02:54 PM
Only ones and twos coming off the next couple or three minor teams but then it really starts to ramp up as the first fruit from the new development push starts to emerge.

I've said here quite a few times - anything happening at senior level in PG1 plays second fiddle to work going into juveniles. Casements future is very bright, I have no hesitation in saying that. Conveyor belt probably has X3/4 the number of potentially elite players in the system compared to a decade ago at the same age. And it's truly the only show in town around here.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 11, 2022, 05:30:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 11, 2022, 01:40:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 11, 2022, 10:06:05 AM
No, they are voluntary. I'd imagine expenses are available, not sure if NP collects his for hurling.

Watched an exhibition of underage football last night at an under 13 game. Really happy with what's coming through here, the drive started by Paul Mc Keever (RIP) and half a dozen very committed others at under 6 now starting to flourish. Very content with the conveyor belt that's building nicely in PG1.
An excellent team BS I saw them myself 2 weeks ago, possibly one of best in ulster at this age serous credit to their coaches. Is this a one off group or what are your 7s 9s, 11s 15s and 17s like in comparison.


No result up for the game against Con Magees the other night BS. Who won that one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 07:11:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

No, camogie just
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 11, 2022, 07:47:05 PM
Big Marty musn't want to stick it up PaddyJohn. Conflicted loyalties lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

But Dunloy are a dual club and proving a tad too strong for South Antrim clubs atm....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

But Dunloy are a dual club and proving a tad too strong for South Antrim clubs atm....??

In football or hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

But Dunloy are a dual club and proving a tad too strong for South Antrim clubs atm....??

In football or hurling?

Read the query and the response supplied.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

But Dunloy are a dual club and proving a tad too strong for South Antrim clubs atm....??

In football or hurling?

Read the query and the response supplied.......

I've read it and your reaction is the typical defensive one. Dunloy as an example in the league this year would be a poor one, they ain't setting things on fire have lost to Ardoyne and Davitts, that same Davitts you laughed at when your under 15 div 2 team hammered them.

As for hurling they never take the league too seriously (as league position suggests) great time to blood players due to county commitment, come championship they'll be at full strength for all clubs, especially the north Antrim ones.

If there is anyone on here with a huge county City chip on his shoulder bigger than yours I'd like to meet him. Some do it for the banter, you're slightly poisoned. Pretty sad tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

But Dunloy are a dual club and proving a tad too strong for South Antrim clubs atm....??

In football or hurling?

Read the query and the response supplied.......

I've read it and your reaction is the typical defensive one. Dunloy as an example in the league this year would be a poor one, they ain't setting things on fire have lost to Ardoyne and Davitts, that same Davitts you laughed at when your under 15 div 2 team hammered them.

As for hurling they never take the league too seriously (as league position suggests) great time to blood players due to county commitment, come championship they'll be at full strength for all clubs, especially the north Antrim ones.

If there is anyone on here with a huge county City chip on his shoulder bigger than yours I'd like to meet him. Some do it for the banter, you're slightly poisoned. Pretty sad tbh

Typical snide comment from a less than endearing individual.
Have never reported Davitts under 15.

For your information having received education in Belfast I still have friends aplenty from that era.
As a former county officer I had, and still have countless contacts and friends in the city, including a good share up at Milltown.
Possibly a lot more than yourself..

Your 'poison' comment did, as obviously intended annoy me and reply at your will, I will not enter into any further discourse with your cynical self...



Sin e....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 11:12:30 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2022, 07:06:25 PM
do PG1 have juvenile hurling? oftern thought Cargin lack of hurling gives them a big advantage over dual clubs

But Dunloy are a dual club and proving a tad too strong for South Antrim clubs atm....??

In football or hurling?

Read the query and the response supplied.......

I've read it and your reaction is the typical defensive one. Dunloy as an example in the league this year would be a poor one, they ain't setting things on fire have lost to Ardoyne and Davitts, that same Davitts you laughed at when your under 15 div 2 team hammered them.

As for hurling they never take the league too seriously (as league position suggests) great time to blood players due to county commitment, come championship they'll be at full strength for all clubs, especially the north Antrim ones.

If there is anyone on here with a huge county City chip on his shoulder bigger than yours I'd like to meet him. Some do it for the banter, you're slightly poisoned. Pretty sad tbh

Typical snide comment from a less than endearing individual.
Have never reported Davitts under 15.

For your information having received education in Belfast I still have friends aplenty from that era.
As a former county officer I had, and still have countless contacts and friends in the city, including a good share up at Milltown.
Possibly a lot more than yourself..

Your 'poison' comment did, as obviously intended annoy me and reply at your will, I will not enter into any further discourse with your cynical self...



Sin e....

Aye you've more friends in St Galls  ;D

A nice chuckle on that one over me tea ;D

As for snide remarks, you do alright with those
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 12, 2022, 11:24:40 AM
look waht i started!
Just saying of PG1 and Cargin kids coaches can train their kids football all the time and dual clubs in the city hacve to split their time between both its no surprise they produce stonger football teams
Dunloy do seem to be exception to this and fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 12, 2022, 11:24:40 AM
look waht i started!
Just saying of PG1 and Cargin kids coaches can train their kids football all the time and dual clubs in the city hacve to split their time between both its no surprise they produce stonger football teams
Dunloy do seem to be exception to this and fair play
Got that......but Dunloy are the exception to the rule...

Cargin did try hurling on occassions and actually did put their names on the Junior Hurling title way back in 1937..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 12, 2022, 12:15:32 PM
I'm not sure about them being an exception to be honest.

Other than Cargin, when was the last time a club who don't play hurling won an Antrim SFC?

Perhaps the key to success in football is to play hurling, with Cargin the exception.

Go over to Derry and ask Slaughtneil.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 12, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Normal service starting to resume in the league by the looks of things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 12, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Normal service starting to resume in the league by the looks of things

Cargin do seem.on the upward EOC.....or maybe I am a tad biased.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 12, 2022, 11:20:05 PM
Cream always rises to the top cb,big game on Wednesday between the 2 outstanding teams in the county ,pg1 two bug tests and failed both in my opinion ,2 big target games for jmk an came up short ,maybe championship be different but the 2 best teams are a few short miles apart.LD miles off it ,ronan devlin has the greens purring along nicely minus a few key men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 13, 2022, 10:37:43 AM
Impressed with Creggan yesterday. Well set up and a very strong panel. We have no excuses with the result, Creggan further down the road, PG1 still a work in progress.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 13, 2022, 11:08:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 13, 2022, 10:37:43 AM
Impressed with Creggan yesterday. Well set up and a very strong panel. We have no excuses with the result, Creggan further down the road, PG1 still a work in progress.
You said last week there's a top 3 now and there is no standout team? Has this changed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 12, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Normal service starting to resume in the league by the looks of things

Cargin do seem.on the upward EOC.....or maybe I am a tad biased.....?

CB what was it you said? Leagues are for playing in ;D

Having said that I suspect you are right. I would be surprised were Cargin not to win it this year. It also looks like 2 way ahead of the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 13, 2022, 11:17:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 12, 2022, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 12, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Normal service starting to resume in the league by the looks of things

Cargin do seem.on the upward EOC.....or maybe I am a tad biased.....?

CB what was it you said? Leagues are for playing in ;D

Having said that I suspect you are right. I would be surprised were Cargin not to win it this year. It also looks like 2 way ahead of the rest.

Leagues are for playing in and giving experience to the young ITG......Jeez forgotten how many times Cargin have win the league.....and another one is not on the agenda I think.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 11:18:47 AM
It's all well setup this year for a big game with you and Creggan. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 13, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 11:18:47 AM
It's all well setup this year for a big game with you and Creggan. Should be interesting.

Hope the ref doesn't spoil it !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2022, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 13, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 11:18:47 AM
It's all well setup this year for a big game with you and Creggan. Should be interesting.

Hope the ref doesn't spoil it !!

Didn't take long
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 13, 2022, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 11:18:47 AM
It's all well setup this year for a big game with you and Creggan. Should be interesting.

Another league game.....Am sure RD will continue with the same policy he has employed thus far....game time for a good strong youth based bench...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 13, 2022, 01:36:53 PM
Yes certainly I'd say Creggan and Cargin are top 2. To join that group you need to be beating them every so often.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 13, 2022, 06:23:43 PM
Somebody is taking the piss lads with choosing the refs .
FFS I'm going to stay in the house .😡😡
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2022, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
;D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 13, 2022, 11:44:52 PM
I'm delighted with the choice of the ref. He certainly didn't do us any harm in our last game with Cargin. All the big calls went our way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 14, 2022, 10:19:43 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 13, 2022, 06:23:43 PM
Somebody is taking the piss lads with choosing the refs .
FFS I'm going to stay in the house .😡😡

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on June 14, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
Only in Antrim would you get a ref on a message board slabbering about a game he has been appointed to, not any game either but a local derby between the two top teams in the County...............who is actually responsible for the conduct and appointment of referees in this county

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2022, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
;D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 14, 2022, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 14, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
Only in Antrim would you get a ref on a message board slabbering about a game he has been appointed to, not any game either but a local derby between the two top teams in the County...............who is actually responsible for the conduct and appointment of referees in this county

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2022, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
;D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI

I'm sure he will do a good impartial job.......the above was only a bit of craic and I'm sure everyone take sit that way.

Plus i am sure he dislikes both teams evenly!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 14, 2022, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 14, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
Only in Antrim would you get a ref on a message board slabbering about a game he has been appointed to, not any game either but a local derby between the two top teams in the County...............who is actually responsible for the conduct and appointment of referees in this county

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2022, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
;D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI

Because the conduct of some of our county board is superb.

Give it a rest ffs. MR2 is a shit ref and we all know it but he can say what he wants. 😉😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 14, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
Only in Antrim would you get a ref on a message board slabbering about a game he has been appointed to, not any game either but a local derby between the two top teams in the County...............who is actually responsible for the conduct and appointment of referees in this county

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2022, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2022, 06:35:00 PM
;D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI

Eh? I haven't opened my mouth, can you explain yourself? So sensitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 14, 2022, 07:26:13 PM
Why would a city ref go into a game like that with a pre conceived agenda that he is going to be harder on one team than another. He has zero skin in this particular race either, probably happy to officiate a draw verdict and up the road outa dodge. Just my thoughts.

Will be game of the night, two points up for grabs that could decide the destination of the Eddie Fitz - I'd expect nothing less than two evenly matched teams going at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 14, 2022, 08:41:40 PM
It's not hard to work out Bannside
The man hates Cargin and he can't hide it on this discussion board or on the pitch.
It's not just last year's semi but every game I ever witnessed him ref against us he's been brutal.
I have nothing personal against the man if I'm honest. He does a job that is thankless and all the crap that goes with it.
But as his song goes you can't always get what you want in Antrim even if that is a fair ref !
Anyway leagues are for playing....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 15, 2022, 08:04:53 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 07:13:07 AM
This is getting embarrassing now.

Nobody hates Cargin. It's just that their supporters on this board take every bit of craic, slagging and minor criticism and multiply it by a million in their own heads because they are the most sensitive souls who ever surfed the internet. Perhaps they thrive on the persecution complex but it is entirely tedious for everyone else who has to endure the endless moaning. Lighten up ffs.

Instead of relating the thoughts of 'someone else' D I E......perhaps you could let us know your own considered opinion
...
Please.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2022, 08:58:13 AM
Aye CB. Lighten up man. The whole world dosent hate Cargin. As I said before, you set the template for others to meet.

Big parish derby tonight though, who will have the bragging rights around the loughshore tomorrow and one hand on the silverware. Both teams missing a couple, so fairly even on that score. Should be a cracking contest.

MR who do you fancy....lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 15, 2022, 09:15:56 AM
This evenings game is something to0 look forward to , particularly following our win in the championship lasy year. Its the first time that the shoe is on the other foot for cargin. So that makes it different. The other sub plot to this league serious, is that Casements set their stall out to win the league, particularly disappointing considering the main two teams had a number of players unavailable for a large number of games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 09:23:35 AM
Creggan strong favs tonight at home. Cargin missing Mick,Big Pat and Kobo unfortunately,only the league all build up to a big semi final on down the line I would imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2022, 09:38:07 AM
DK can't help but bring Casements into the current discussion. Definitely it his head at this stage, no question about that. There's bound to be help available for this kind of thing.

Competitions are won now by strong panels as opposed to first 15 players. Both Creggan and Cargin have large capable panels, so a few missing on either side shouldn't affect the result too much.

Agree the c'ship is the big one, but don't try and kid anyone that either of these clubs will be going out for anything except a win tonight. Parish rivalries are what makes the GAA what it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 09:44:14 AM
Although we aren't in same parish ,fairly close to other mind you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 09:58:47 AM
I'm predicting a draw and the ref to have a sound game 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2022, 10:19:14 AM
May the best team win. Lots of good tight games on around the county. Good to see club season opening up.

We would happily settle for a top 4 place and keep players fresh, rotate squad, tweak a few imperfections and be fairly well organised going into the championship. Suppose most clubs would be thinking along the same lines in that regard!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 15, 2022, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 09:44:14 AM
Although we aren't in same parish ,fairly close to other mind you

Perhaps the football pitch itself but a lot of the players post codes would tell a different story.

Should be a tight one tonight if MR2 wants it so  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 15, 2022, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 15, 2022, 08:58:13 AM
Aye CB. Lighten up man. The whole world dosent hate Cargin. As I said before, you set the template for others to meet.

Big parish derby tonight though, who will have the bragging rights around the loughshore tomorrow and one hand on the silverware. Both teams missing a couple, so fairly even on that score. Should be a cracking contest.

MR who do you fancy....lol.

Have a few relations playing or having played for other units in the county and having listened to them BS I would beg to disagree......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2022, 12:31:45 PM
Young fellas nowadays.....winding the oul uncle up about his beloved Cargin! Don't be falling for that nonsense CB. Cargin still the aristocrats of the SW, though Creggan making a bold move on that title. All the rest way down the pecking order!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 15, 2022, 01:01:48 PM
Not going to mention the Creggan game, enough talk of it already. In other games I expect wins for;
St Johns, Portglenone, St Endas, St Brigids, Ahoghill. A win for Ahoghill would possibly drag Aghagallon right down into the relegation mix. Is there relegation this season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
Relegation yes.i would say Aghagallon are in trouble this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 15, 2022, 01:10:24 PM
to clarify, are St Johns, LD, Cargin & Creggan (I know Creggan & Cargin are at semifinal stage if they get that far) all on the same side of the draw?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 01:13:33 PM
Yes.St Galls also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 15, 2022, 01:22:01 PM
I didn't realise it was so lop sided, I thought the posters keeping BS going about getting to the final, was just that, a bit of criac. That is a seriously handy draw. I'm sure St Brigids will be eyeing it up as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2022, 02:09:13 PM
We know that all of Moneyglass St Brigid's and Ahoghill won't fear us and could put us to the sword on any given day.  And that's just in our initial group. None of those are gimmes, we will be treating them all with plenty of respect when the time comes. Two of them beat us in championship last year! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on June 15, 2022, 02:37:01 PM
BS if you cant beat them teams then please dont mention the good work thats going on around portglenone again on this board.

Something would be badly wrong if ports dont get to the final. Though at the same time this team, historically have choked at semi stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 15, 2022, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 15, 2022, 01:10:24 PM
to clarify, are St Johns, LD, Cargin & Creggan (I know Creggan & Cargin are at semifinal stage if they get that far) all on the same side of the draw?

They are indeed on the same side of the worst 'seeded' draw
ever..
If Casement's do not make the final they may as well give up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 15, 2022, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
Relegation yes.i would say Aghagallon are in trouble this year

What is the set up with relegation?

Is it bottom team goes down and 2nd bottom goes into playoff with 2nd in Div 2?

Someone had said to be before that it was going to be the bottom 3 teams involved in relegation but maybe that is wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 15, 2022, 03:44:29 PM
i said aghagallon got an easy road to the final last year and got lambasted on this . very average team any time i saw them 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 15, 2022, 06:27:28 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 15, 2022, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
Relegation yes.i would say Aghagallon are in trouble this year

What is the set up with relegation?

Is it bottom team goes down and 2nd bottom goes into playoff with 2nd in Div 2?


This is the correct process for relegation from Div1 and 2.
League re structuring will be discussed at county convention for 2024.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 15, 2022, 10:22:29 PM
Wouldn't be on for dads taking county teams myself but at levels like U14 I'd say there's not too many sticking their names in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on June 15, 2022, 10:26:39 PM
Another big win for gort away to st brigid's. Keeps their hopes of survival alive. The great escape is still on. Looks a 4 horse race at the bottom now.

All other games seemed to go as expected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 15, 2022, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
It would probably be more relevant to list the names of the people who were beating doors down looking for the job but who were overlooked.

Exactly, go and see how many people want to take these teams ? The list would be short
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on June 15, 2022, 10:32:41 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
Relegation yes.i would say Aghagallon are in trouble this year

Big trouble. As are Clann Eireann in Armagh. The North Lurgan football has died off after last seasons successes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 15, 2022, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
It would probably be more relevant to list the names of the people who were beating doors down looking for the job but who were overlooked.

Exactly, go and see how many people want to take these teams ? The list would be short

I have never been keen on Dads taking teams their sons play in, particularly at county level. I don't think you tend to see it in other counties. I'm sure there are good intentions but its just not a progressive step. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 15, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 15, 2022, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
It would probably be more relevant to list the names of the people who were beating doors down looking for the job but who were overlooked.

Exactly, go and see how many people want to take these teams ? The list would be short

I have never been keen on Dads taking teams their sons play in, particularly at county level. I don't think you tend to see it in other counties. I'm sure there are good intentions but its just not a progressive step.

Paul Devlin with tyrone u20 did it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 15, 2022, 11:41:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 15, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 15, 2022, 10:29:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
It would probably be more relevant to list the names of the people who were beating doors down looking for the job but who were overlooked.

Exactly, go and see how many people want to take these teams ? The list would be short

I have never been keen on Dads taking teams their sons play in, particularly at county level. I don't think you tend to see it in other counties. I'm sure there are good intentions but its just not a progressive step.

Paul Devlin with tyrone u20 did it

Kieran Kingston ruthless with his own son on the Cork senior hurling team.

Colm Collins with Podge Collins in Clare.  Tough when he was a dual star.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 15, 2022, 11:44:32 PM
The big two couldn't be separated tonight ,cargin probably the better side,both missing 3/4 regulars ,it will be some game in semi final ,if I'm not mistaken not a single card dished out tonight must be a first for this fixture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on June 16, 2022, 08:31:37 AM
Was up watching Cloney v Aghagallon last night. Cloney played most of the game with 14 men. Aghagallon a shadow of the team i saw last year. Looked very clueless on the ball and gave alot away. Aside from trying to cut the game rough, they didnt seem to have much in the locker. Worry for them. 10points is a real hammering in Gaelic football nowadays

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ciall on June 16, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
It would probably be more relevant to list the names of the people who were beating doors down looking for the job but who were overlooked.

Great point!
As far as I'm aware, the u14 football squad takes on enough to put out 2 teams (must be around 60 players) and the full time staff- ie McNulty and McKenna coordinate the sessions and how the teams are run. So not sure how much pump a doting dad would have. Don't particularly agree with the dads thing myself but if we'd a list of the volunteers actually helping we might find out whether The majority are or aren't parents.
It'd be great if we could embed ex players into the squads coaching system, although that's not to say the best players make the best coaches either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 16, 2022, 10:41:43 AM
Quote from: Ciall on June 16, 2022, 08:36:20 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 15, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
It would probably be more relevant to list the names of the people who were beating doors down looking for the job but who were overlooked.

Great point!
As far as I'm aware, the u14 football squad takes on enough to put out 2 teams (must be around 60 players) and the full time staff- ie McNulty and McKenna coordinate the sessions and how the teams are run. So not sure how much pump a doting dad would have. Don't particularly agree with the dads thing myself but if we'd a list of the volunteers actually helping we might find out whether The majority are or aren't parents.
It'd be great if we could embed ex players into the squads coaching system, although that's not to say the best players make the best coaches either.

Yeah from what i remember from earlier this year, they took 60 players on.

At that stage 3 coaches were from St Pauls, 1 from Gorts i think and another Belfast coach that i can't remember, plus a couple of Gaelfast reps, Ronan McCartan and Alfie.

Not sure who the doting dad reference is about, as personnel might have changed since then but there was a definite city bias in the selections at that stage.

Maybe some were fathers and it would be likely that they were but i think it was more focusing on getting their own club players in the squad.

I appreciate there won't be many putting their names forward, but to be honest none of the coaches i spoke to in SW were even asked, including myself, so it had obviously already been sorted among the Belfast clubs before word went out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 16, 2022, 12:31:27 PM
Grandson on the under-14 development squad and having been at a couple of sessions have to admit there are more than a few lads involved who need lessons in the basics.

Would it be possible that a few are looking after their own club's interests.....?

Involvement of South Antrim lads far exceeds reprensation from South West......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 16, 2022, 03:57:05 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 16, 2022, 12:31:27 PM
Grandson on the under-14 development squad and having been at a couple of sessions have to admit there are more than a few lads involved who need lessons in the basics.

Would it be possible that a few are looking after their own club's interests.....?

Involvement of South Antrim lads far exceeds reprensation from South West......

100%

Not singling any particular players out but i know some are on St Pauls B team at U15 and you only have to look at the Div 3 league table to see their standard.

It did seem that every player from st pauls that turned up got into the final panel.

Funny that when they had 3 coaches "helping with" the selections.

Fair enough that St Brigids and St Pauls A team are the best in the county but you can't tell me that there aren't SW players missing out on a place because of favouritism of coaches to those they are familiar with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2022, 05:23:20 PM
Is it's development squad an academy or county team? Surely the door should be open to everyone who wants to 'develop' their skills providing we have the qualified coaches (seems to be a good few 'qualified' coaches here) to look after them?

My young nephew was on the under 15's that played Sligo last week, though he lives in County Down, so taking not only taking a SW position but a SW one too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 16, 2022, 09:41:58 PM
Is that Brian Burns the former Down player?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 16, 2022, 10:11:45 PM
Some serious tripe posted on this board.

Honestly to f**k. That coach is to loud for my cubs ears.

Any wonder we're the laughing stock of Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:14:49 PM
Think the SW clubs just need to get some good structures in place , put the work in and dry their eyes! Maybe just maybe the Belfsdt clubs have better players at this age ?   ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 16, 2022, 10:15:58 PM
Definitely not EOC! Brian's young lad Conor is still 12 and as good as they come at that age. Brian not involved at county level, he heads up juvenile development at the club. Good operator too.

Impressed by St Paul's under 15s tonight, looking very well coached and full of decent players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2022, 10:18:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 16, 2022, 10:15:58 PM
Definitely not EOC! Brian's young lad Conor is still 12 and as good as they come at that age. Brian not involved at county level, he heads up juvenile development at the club. Good operator too.

Impressed by St Paul's under 15s tonight, looking very well coached and full of decent players.

Ref'd them the other week and was very impressed also...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 16, 2022, 10:36:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:14:49 PM
Think the SW clubs just need to get some good structures in place , put the work in and dry their eyes! Maybe just maybe the Belfsdt clubs have better players at this age ?   ??

Maybe....but a few S West lads won Mc Crory medals this year....
If you care to dander down to Toome on any evening .and you will see the work ethic involved in development the.under age teams led by lads I am sure you will recognise.
Then come on any Saturday to get a gander at the huge numbers attending the nursery groups....
Am sure such or replicated all.over the division....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:45:18 PM
Any hurling going on ? One code club only . Do u chase anyon who wants to hurl ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 17, 2022, 07:52:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:45:18 PM
Any hurling going on ? One code club only . Do u chase anyon who wants to hurl ?
Tried hurling.....never a success but did win a hurling title way back....1937 JHC....Erins Own...

By the way do you ever indulge in football in your domain or is that 'someone else' or just another WUM......u decide..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 17, 2022, 09:41:37 AM
The population of the West Belfast electoral district alone is 45,000.  Portglenone is 1200.  I think they are doing well holding their own.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 17, 2022, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 16, 2022, 07:45:56 PM
The sessions I've seen, a fella from pg1 involved,thinks he runs the show,speaking to a few father's watching he's also manages pg1 teams his lad involved in, overbearing to say the least,very loud

;D i know who it is you mean!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 17, 2022, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:14:49 PM
Think the SW clubs just need to get some good structures in place , put the work in and dry their eyes! Maybe just maybe the Belfsdt clubs have better players at this age ?   ??

I would say St Brigids and St Pauls are definitely the best 2 clubs at u15 this year.

They do have a good number of very good players, although how many are on the u14 development squad and how many are on the u15 i wouldn't know, there is a chance that a lot are in the older age category.

But outside those two i would say there are as many players from SW as there are from other teams that are every bit as good, yet it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say the split is 70/30 between Belfast and SW in that u14 age group, which certainly isn't a true reflection.

As i said before, there are a few St Pauls B players in that squad ahead of lads from Div 1 SW teams, which just doesn't ring true based on their ability, and i have watched them play a good few times over the last couple of years.

It seems more that they are intending on developing their own players rather than that actual intention, which is building a panel of the strongest players to develop them as a team for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2022, 10:29:28 AM
Love a good City country gurning session on Friday  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 17, 2022, 11:56:21 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 17, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
When is it that the SW plays Belfast so we can settle this entirely futile argument once and for all?

::)

And then will you still be someone else......or remain a ditch based anonomous WUM.......not  sure where u stand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 17, 2022, 02:52:48 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 17, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
When is it that the SW plays Belfast so we can settle this entirely futile argument once and for all?

::)

I think, while your comment was in jest, it would be a good thing to have at the end of each year.

A SW select vs South Antrim at each age group show piece game, after the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 17, 2022, 03:41:44 PM
That be great for city/country relations. Cant see what could go wrong 😂😂😂

Here in Derry we are thinking of doing a North/South one. Previous years winner gets first choice of weapons for the next year. Tho North Derry cant choose their wemen as choice of weapon. That be too much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 17, 2022, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 17, 2022, 03:41:44 PM
That be great for city/country relations. Cant see what could go wrong 😂😂😂

Here in Derry we are thinking of doing a North/South one. Previous years winner gets first choice of weapons for the next year. Tho North Derry cant choose their wemen as choice of weapon. That be too much

to be fair they hammer the shite out of each other all year during league and championship so one more game wouldn't make a difference!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 17, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
I think we should get the refs and the journos to combine a team and play a city/country select. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 17, 2022, 04:47:09 PM
Do St John's not have a minor or under 20 team?? What's the deal there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2022, 06:52:02 PM
Was hearing that a third year competition for All Antrim colleges and schools has been approved by all the stakeholders. Great work by Paddy Kelly coaching and games development officer to get this initiative over the line. It is a small but very significant step....credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2022, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 17, 2022, 07:52:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:45:18 PM
Any hurling going on ? One code club only . Do u chase anyon who wants to hurl ?
Tried hurling.....never a success but did win a hurling title way back....1937 JHC....Erins Own...

By the way do you ever indulge in football in your domain or is that 'someone else' or just another WUM......u decide..?
all belfast clubs try to play both but some only play big ball cos of lack of hurling numbers . Just amazed with the numbers u say cargin have there is no hurling provide for the boys . No agenda son 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 18, 2022, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2022, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 17, 2022, 07:52:19 AM

You could ask all the same question to all those North Antrim clubs who never look at the 'big ball' game.......

Let me know what they say please......
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 16, 2022, 10:45:18 PM
Any hurling going on ? One code club only . Do u chase anyon who wants to hurl ?
Tried hurling.....never a success but did win a hurling title way back....1937 JHC....Erins Own...

By the way do you ever indulge in football in your domain or is that 'someone else' or just another WUM......u decide..?
all belfast clubs try to play both but some only play big ball cos of lack of hurling numbers . Just amazed with the numbers u say cargin have there is no hurling provide for the boys . No agenda son
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 18, 2022, 05:39:57 PM
Belfast GAA ,who ever said Cargin had big numbers?
We seldom have enough at any age group and need to go into the age group below to field a team.

The first of our recent minor titles had as many u16 on the team as u18.
But sometimes your weaknesses becomes your strength!
That is why we really punch above our weight because we are actually a very small club numerically.

As for hurling if you look at our neighbouring hurling clubs you will see lots of Cargin juveniles playing for them and infact they would likely find it hard to field teams if we started hurling also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2022, 09:25:15 PM
County bumpkin mentioned huge numbers of juveniles At cargin his words not mine check back and u will see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 18, 2022, 10:17:48 PM
Big numbers at U7 but that's a bit early to leave a legacy! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 18, 2022, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2022, 09:25:15 PM
County bumpkin mentioned huge numbers of juveniles At cargin his words not mine check back and u will see

Huge numbers in 'nursery' I think I said.....boys and girls under 6 .......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 20, 2022, 03:39:27 PM
Paddy Power is giving a generous 9/2 Kickham's for the championship.....may well take a little bit.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 20, 2022, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 20, 2022, 03:39:27 PM
Paddy Power is giving a generous 9/2 Kickham's for the championship.....may well take a little bit.....

Free money. Something would need to go badly wrong in Staffordstown for Creggan not to win it again his year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
No white smoke on the senior football management position. Lots of potential candidates are actively involved with clubs or have ongoing commttments atm, so most are unlikely to look further than their ongoing project!

We took a bit of a punt last time out, and if we are to learn lessons from that we should be looking for experienced hands this time around imo. There is no hurry, a month or six weeks will make absolutely no difference to the preparation of the squad, but will allow those interested enough in seeing who is available a bit more time to come up with the right management team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2022, 10:12:02 PM
They'll have to be interviewed by the board first in fairness...

Be a cracking interview  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2022, 09:10:14 AM
A job description has been widely circulated which sets the bar fairly high in terms of essential and desired criteria. A proven track record of managing high performance programmes at adult level is high on the list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2022, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2022, 10:12:02 PM
They'll have to be interviewed by the board first in fairness...

Be a cracking interview  ;D

Jim Gavin or no-one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 21, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 20, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
No white smoke on the senior football management position. Lots of potential candidates are actively involved with clubs or have ongoing commttments atm, so most are unlikely to look further than their ongoing project!

We took a bit of a punt last time out, and if we are to learn lessons from that we should be looking for experienced hands this time around imo. There is no hurry, a month or six weeks will make absolutely no difference to the preparation of the squad, but will allow those interested enough in seeing who is available a bit more time to come up with the right management team.


It would have been quicker for you just saying no one has applied for the job yet BS :)

Agreed the criteria list looks higher than it previously has.  Rewards for the successful candidate must then be commensurate.

Unless it is an internal appointment (please God no), you would hope the new man will be in place to view and assess the club championship in full.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 21, 2022, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2022, 09:10:14 AM
A job description has been widely circulated which sets the bar fairly high in terms of essential and desired criteria. A proven track record of managing high performance programmes at adult level is high on the list.
No one in house can meet the criteria then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 21, 2022, 11:48:35 AM
Quote from: Spike on June 21, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 20, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
No white smoke on the senior football management position. Lots of potential candidates are actively involved with clubs or have ongoing commttments atm, so most are unlikely to look further than their ongoing project!

We took a bit of a punt last time out, and if we are to learn lessons from that we should be looking for experienced hands this time around imo. There is no hurry, a month or six weeks will make absolutely no difference to the preparation of the squad, but will allow those interested enough in seeing who is available a bit more time to come up with the right management team.


It would have been quicker for you just saying no one has applied for the job yet BS :)

Agreed the criteria list looks higher than it previously has.  Rewards for the successful candidate must then be commensurate.

Unless it is an internal appointment (please God no), you would hope the new man will be in place to view and assess the club championship in full.

My own club agreed to nominate two candidates but when we contacted them neither were interested. Both are currently in roles.
The nomination process is unlikely to garner anything and the application process is likely to be no better (Do top managers even apply for jobs?).
I'd like to think the county will put together a high caliber head hunting committee and approach the right men. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 21, 2022, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2022, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2022, 10:12:02 PM
They'll have to be interviewed by the board first in fairness...

Be a cracking interview  ;D

Jim Gavin or no-one.

As ridiculous as this sounds but Why not? He should be approached if we think he's the right man. Mickey Harte and Louth is the example we should follow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 21, 2022, 12:12:38 PM
Quote from: ck on June 21, 2022, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2022, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2022, 10:12:02 PM
They'll have to be interviewed by the board first in fairness...

Be a cracking interview  ;D

Jim Gavin or no-one.

As ridiculous as this sounds but Why not? He should be approached if we think he's the right man. Mickey Harte and Louth is the example we should follow.

it is unlikely but i don't believe it is ridiculous to approach or headhunt the right candidates (regardless of if they have a current role or not).    Often waiting on someone coming free is just wasted time.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 21, 2022, 12:39:55 PM
Would malachy o'rourke have any interest in taking it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2022, 12:41:31 PM
Not many here know this, but an official approach was put to MH two years ago, and about a day after he had verbally committed to Louth, but it hadn't been made public! Allegedly if our timing had been better it would have received proper consideration. So, fair play to our county officers for at least having the ambition to make that call.

As far as I know a sub committee has been drawn up to get this matter sorted. Hopefully they will show similar ambition and go for an experienced name who has an obvious track record of working at this level.

But as I said....a lot of potential candidates are actively involved in club or county scene - but six weeks could change a lot of that. Patience here is key.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2022, 12:44:31 PM
Geezer - Mal is exactly the kind of example we are talking about. He lost an Ulster final to Kilcoo, obviously his focus is winning John McLaughlin again with Glen and going one better. But your ambition is correct. Mal a serious operator. A serial winner too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 21, 2022, 12:55:05 PM
Would be great to have a manager of his calibure. Be difficult to get him away from Glen though IMO, potential All Ireland in the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 21, 2022, 12:57:54 PM
There should be more options with the split season county/club. Look at Mickey McShane
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 21, 2022, 06:20:55 PM
Talking of Kilcoo... Conleith has a new two year remit there and for obvious reasons wouldn't even engage on the Antrim subject! Another serious operator. All about the timing.

Don't think we need to panic...keep shaking a few branches and you never know. Feel free all to generate a few warmed up leads....this belongs to us all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 22, 2022, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 21, 2022, 06:20:55 PM
Talking of Kilcoo... Conleith has a new two year remit there and for obvious reasons wouldn't even engage on the Antrim subject! Another serious operator. All about the timing.

Don't think we need to panic...keep shaking a few branches and you never know. Feel free all to generate a few warmed up leads....this belongs to us all.

Are you suggesting we 'take a punt' on someone who has never managed a senior club team for the Antrim senior county team? His success as a coach is on the back of Mickey Morans coat tail.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 22, 2022, 09:44:00 AM
You beat me to it DK, some hypocrisy on show
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2022, 09:46:29 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 22, 2022, 09:44:00 AM
You beat me to it DK, some hypocrisy on show

I think Bannside is throwing out names, as are a lot of people, I'd say if he had his choice it wouldn't be Conleith
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 22, 2022, 11:03:48 AM
Having experienced working with Conleith Gilligan, he is a very impressive operator.  Without doubt he would add value to any management team in the country.

There's a reason Micky Moran headhunted him as his no. 2 at Kilcoo and they went on to win the club AI.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 22, 2022, 11:28:55 AM
No one doubting that, just highlighting Bansides hypocrisy, Antrim should ever have taken a punt on EMcG he had no experience etc etc now he's throwing names in that have never actually managed a senior team. I'm a big fan of Deets by the way, I'd say I know him better than most on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 22, 2022, 01:21:10 PM
But were we really taking a punt on E Mc G....and the team he assembled wit the experience of All Ireland positive trails behind them with the medals to prove success.

Despite taking us from the basement lotta negativity on this board....which I am sorry to say follows a trend..

Jeez do we expect a lot of applicants to make application for the post, and looking within how many honestly look closely into their own domain and note individuals the previous management overlooked...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2022, 05:52:36 PM
EOC for what it's worth I never said anything of the sort. I applauded the boards ambition to think outside the box and was optimistic that the collective of three newbies would deliver something exciting. Go back to that period and read my posts. Please try to be accurate when you makes claims like this!

CB going round saying we haven't the players, no manager will touch us. Again, more claptrap. Now having a pop because Bannside dosent chase up JMK....who is focussed on an ongoing project atm.

Slow day on the Antrim thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 22, 2022, 08:34:02 PM
And where are those who E Mc G missed....attended lotta games over the past while must have overlooked hidden gems?

Perhaps somebody could enlighten me....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 22, 2022, 08:58:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 22, 2022, 05:52:36 PM
EOC for what it's worth I never said anything of the sort. I applauded the boards ambition to think outside the box and was optimistic that the collective of three newbies would deliver something exciting. Go back to that period and read my posts. Please try to be accurate when you makes claims like this!

CB going round saying we haven't the players, no manager will touch us. Again, more claptrap. Now having a pop because Bannside dosent chase up JMK....who is focussed on an ongoing project atm.

Slow day on the Antrim thread.

Just when did I mention J Mc K....good lad see him down in Toome....
Never made any such comment.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 23, 2022, 02:44:35 PM
Maybe time to move on all the EMcG discussions. A mix of positives and negatives to take from his tenure but that that ship has now sailed. Maybe it's time to start looking forward instead of backwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 23, 2022, 11:26:26 PM
Lot of gossip around work today that Paddybradley has applied for senior job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 24, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 23, 2022, 11:26:26 PM
Lot of gossip around work today that Paddybradley has applied for senior job

😂😂😂

in his short management career he been with a few teams and did absolutely nothing. Certainly not the man for our job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2022, 10:58:13 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on June 24, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 23, 2022, 11:26:26 PM
Lot of gossip around work today that Paddybradley has applied for senior job

😂😂😂

in his short management career he been with a few teams and did absolutely nothing. Certainly not the man for our job

Get his da back!! Baker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 24, 2022, 11:14:29 AM
Who has Bradley managed?

Seems to me if you were a decent footballer, you can get the gig a lot handier than someone with good CV.

Who was Antrim's last manager...oopps?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on June 24, 2022, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 24, 2022, 11:14:29 AM
Who has Bradley managed?

Seems to me if you were a decent footballer, you can get the gig a lot handier than someone with good CV.

Who was Antrim's last manager...oopps?

Dunloy i think?
Newbridge
The Loup
Derry u21s
Glenullin

The word on him as a manager wouldn't be great around Derry TBH.

Did he get Dunloy to an Intermediate Final?
Managed Newbridge to promotion from intermediate to senior, then the next year relegated again.
The Loup to a Semi Final of championship in 2020, maybe done a couple of years there? Was voted out in the end up i think.
Derry u21's this year, early defeat in Ulster missing a rake of best players and with u21 players training with Derry seniors the week of the u21 Ulster Championship match.
Currently managing his home club Glenullin

I think he helped out a bit when his da was in charge of Antrim did he not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2022, 03:38:27 PM
If Paddy has applied for the job then it should be assessed against the criteria as laid out in the job description. Let it be assessed on its merits, and against the merits of whoever else applies for the post. It's not going to be decided on gaaboard, we arnt that important!

There is no rush or panic, as weeks go on the availability of additional candidates may emerge. That's the world of football, as clubs and counties end their seasons some good potential options may start to open up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2022, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 24, 2022, 03:38:27 PM
If Paddy has applied for the job then it should be assessed against the criteria as laid out in the job description. Let it be assessed on its merits, and against the merits of whoever else applies for the post. It's not going to be decided on gaaboard, we arnt that important!

There is no rush or panic, as weeks go on the availability of additional candidates may emerge. That's the world of football, as clubs and counties end their seasons some good potential options may start to open up.

What??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Did you not know what goes on here is discussed at length at headquarters and decisions are then met?

Referee appointments, the grounds for championship games and management selections..  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 24, 2022, 09:13:37 PM
PB wouldn't be my choice but this is the sort pool we will be picking from. Big names being thrown about by some but I don't I don't see it happening. It will be an ambitious hungry young manager we will end up with I would predict.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on June 24, 2022, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

Slow news day in Toome it would appear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 24, 2022, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 24, 2022, 09:55:45 PM
It entirely depends on how much we are willing to pony up. That's what attracts interest.
That's true as well in a way but I think it will pan out as I stated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2022, 08:47:11 AM
Quote from: breakingball on June 24, 2022, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

Slow news day in Toome it would appear

Never a dull moment with the influx of people from the influx of people attracted to Droicead Tuaim underlined  by the arrival of an 'estate agent' onwards and upwards....

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2022, 10:22:52 AM
Beats me!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2022, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 25, 2022, 10:36:59 AM
I think he means Droichead Thuama, if that helps.
Matter of opinion.....but hey you would say 'someone else's...translation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2022, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 25, 2022, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 25, 2022, 10:36:59 AM

Sin e....

Be no more discourse with a WUM......who is quite effective at the language of the planter...

Keep hiding and sniping from.the undergrowth.....
I think he means Droichead Thuama, if that helps.
Matter of opinion.....but hey you would say 'someone else's...translation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2022, 01:46:25 PM
Still beats me.

.....really busy day around Toome so it is...something about an....estate agent....or something.....not really sure tbh.......maybe its just me!

Forget about it. Anyone for a game of riddles instead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
At least we've big Sean doing a grand job at Parnell today, 30 down 30 to go!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2022, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 25, 2022, 01:46:25 PM
Still beats me.

.....really busy day around Toome so it is...something about an....estate agent....or something.....not really sure tbh.......maybe its just me!

Forget about it. Anyone for a game of riddles instead?

Maybe it is you.....but hey think positive....quite good at that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 25, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
At least we've big Sean doing a grand job at Parnell today, 30 down 30 to go!
He did well.  Derry lost.  They'll blame him for years. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 25, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
At least we've big Sean doing a grand job at Parnell today, 30 down 30 to go!
He did well.  Derry lost.  They'll blame him for years.

Derry poor enough in the first half,  played football for ten minutes and could forced extra time...

Good to see him on the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 25, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
Snoopy did well today, great to see him on the national stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 25, 2022, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 25, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
At least we've big Sean doing a grand job at Parnell today, 30 down 30 to go!
He did well.  Derry lost.  They'll blame him for years.

Derry poor enough in the first half,  played football for ten minutes and could forced extra time...

Good to see him on the pitch

Derry could have done with the Galway mid fielder Dominic Mc Glinchey in their ranks.....his dad is a proud Bellaghy man...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on June 27, 2022, 01:51:53 PM
Portglenone will make a championship final this year. Should have got there last year but this is their year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on June 27, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
On that note MR2 do you know when championship is and are fixtures out yet?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 27, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
On that note MR2 do you know when championship is and are fixtures out yet?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!

I haven't.. I do know it won't be as long winded as last year, so hopefully everyone should be coming up to championship pace soon enough, as it will start no doubt soon after the league games are over, last league look to be on the 20th of July..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 27, 2022, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 27, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
On that note MR2 do you know when championship is and are fixtures out yet?



Weekend of 29th to 31st July

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 27, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 27, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
On that note MR2 do you know when championship is and are fixtures out yet?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!

Round 1 31st July
Round 2 14th August
Round 3 28th August
1/4 finals 11th September
Semi finals 25th September
Final 9th October

Don't know fixtures or venues yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 08:05:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 27, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 27, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
On that note MR2 do you know when championship is and are fixtures out yet?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!

Round 1 31st July
Round 2 14th August
Round 3 28th August
1/4 finals 11th September
Semi finals 25th September
Final 9th October

Don't know fixtures or venues yet

Just pencilled them into my diary  ;)

Do teams now reset and start the real training now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 28, 2022, 07:59:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 08:05:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 27, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 27, 2022, 02:07:43 PM
On that note MR2 do you know when championship is and are fixtures out yet?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2022, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 24, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
Was surprised to hear that a referee within, approached a player to apologise for a decision he made in error against that individual in the past...

Kudos a plenty to that 'Whistler'.....

I'd say most ref's reflect and wish they had have made different calls when able to watch a game back, unfortunately we don't have that video at the side of the pitch lol.. well we do, its the supporters.

Championship will be coming soon enough, getting ears and eyes tested and get the fitness levels up!

Round 1 31st July
Round 2 14th August
Round 3 28th August
1/4 finals 11th September
Semi finals 25th September
Final 9th October

Don't know fixtures or venues yet

Just pencilled them into my diary  ;)

Do teams now reset and start the real training now?

Jeez Cargin have been in overdrive since Feb.....league has been the total focus......looks like we are gonna come up short.....another league trophy the16th, regretfully missed probably....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on June 28, 2022, 10:03:44 AM
few interesting games tomorrow - any predictions ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on June 28, 2022, 10:59:52 AM
Jaysus CB is getting hard to listen to on this. Can someone be banned for just being annoying?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 28, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on June 28, 2022, 10:59:52 AM
Jaysus CB is getting hard to listen to on this. Can someone be banned for ju

st being anno
ying?

Easy......do Not read.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 28, 2022, 04:40:50 PM
CB, did i see Conchuir Johnston made his senior debut?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 28, 2022, 04:54:24 PM
Not possible he's underage. Conan Johnston come on a game maybe you seen his name
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 29, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 28, 2022, 04:40:50 PM
CB, did i see Conchuir Johnston made his senior debut?
He came on last night in an u17 game v St Brigids with 10-15 mins to go, scored 2-1 and set up at 3rd goal, exciting talent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 29, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 29, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 28, 2022, 04:40:50 PM
CB, did i see Conchuir Johnston made his senior debut?
He came on last night in an u17 game v St Brigids with 10-15 mins to go, scored 2-1 and set up at 3rd goal, exciting talent.

And they were losing at that stage
He done the same thing against Moneyglass recently too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 29, 2022, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 29, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 29, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 28, 2022, 04:40:50 PM
CB, did i see Conchuir Johnston made his senior debut?
He came on last night in an u17 game v St Brigids with 10-15 mins to go, scored 2-1 and set up at 3rd goal, exciting talent.

And they were losing at that stage
He done the same thing against Moneyglass recently too
Conhuir is indeed a huge talent and glad to say Cargin have a good number of such in the juvenile ranks....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 29, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
On another note lads Banty has stepped away from Monaghan.
I wonder would he be interested in a new job ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 29, 2022, 01:46:38 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 29, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
On another note lads Banty has stepped away from Monaghan.
I wonder would he be interested in a new job ?
Probably not, after interviewing he was beaten to the job previously by Frank Fitzimmons, once bitten and all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 29, 2022, 01:57:48 PM
He's mad but not that mad 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2022, 02:00:44 PM
Did he leave on good terms with Monaghan the first time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2022, 02:10:45 PM
I don't think Antrim were properly financed to support Bantys wish list at the time. Fitzy cut his cloth to suit, fair play he wasn't doing it for the money.

Our county finances are much healthier than they were. It won't be unlimited, but within reason all basics are well covered and we don't need to accept the "value" option as has been the case in the past.

Should Banty (or anyone)put his name forward he will be dealing with a progressive county official in our county treasurer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on June 29, 2022, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 29, 2022, 02:10:45 PM
I don't think Antrim were properly financed to support Bantys wish list at the time. Fitzy cut his cloth to suit, fair play he wasn't doing it for the money.

Our county finances are much healthier than they were. It won't be unlimited, but within reason all basics are well covered and we don't need to accept the "value" option as has been the case in the past.

Should Banty (or anyone)put his name forward he will be dealing with a progressive county official in our county treasurer.



Good.  you get what you pay for

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
I would prefer not to have Banty. Not someone I rate overly tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 29, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
I would prefer not to have Banty. Not someone I rate overly tbh.

He would be just mailing it in as Antrim manager. Good for a few quips in an interview but should be looking for a younger hungry manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2022, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 29, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
I would prefer not to have Banty. Not someone I rate overly tbh.

He would be just mailing it in as Antrim manager. Good for a few quips in an interview but should be looking for a younger hungry manager

Did we not just try that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 29, 2022, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2022, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 29, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
I would prefer not to have Banty. Not someone I rate overly tbh.

He would be just mailing it in as Antrim manager. Good for a few quips in an interview but should be looking for a younger hungry manager

Did we not just try that?

Only my opinion but is Banty's best years behind him...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2022, 09:41:11 PM
Banty & Tony Scullion dream team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 29, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
Scullion would turn Ballymena bleck. BLECKKKKKKK

Sorry, more bleckkkkkkkkk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2022, 10:01:01 PM
Just realised it's co treasurer big Donal Murphy you're talking about G&T. Man puts in some shift, great operator and has good ambition for Antrim (considering he's a Down man lol). Their loss - our gain!

See Rossa nip a point off league leaders - they are hard to beat at Rossa Pk as we found out! Ballymena starting to motor by the look of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2022, 11:15:47 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 29, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
Scullion would turn Ballymena bleck. BLECKKKKKKK

Sorry, more bleckkkkkkkkk

Very good 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2022, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 29, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
Scullion would turn Ballymena bleck. BLECKKKKKKK

Sorry, more bleckkkkkkkkk


Scullion is some man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 29, 2022, 11:34:06 PM
Good hard hitting game in toome tonight
St John's will upset someome in that champ group.big physical side 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 29, 2022, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 29, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
Scullion would turn Ballymena bleck. BLECKKKKKKK

Sorry, more bleckkkkkkkkk

Our own version 👏👏
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on June 30, 2022, 09:47:00 AM
Got a bit fiery at times and for me that was down to John's not having the football in them nor the fitness, we looked good with a decent amount of men to come back if we can get them fit, however Kickhams are still the men to beat

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on June 29, 2022, 11:34:06 PM
Good hard hitting game in toome tonight
St John's will upset someome in that champ group.big physical side
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Two horse race.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Two horse race.

Portglenone and who ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 30, 2022, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Two horse race.

Portglenone and who ?

With.easy access to the final in the worst ever seeded draw possible PG1 should make the latter stages they would/will require an extended panel.
Do they have that in a unit which has enjoyed little success at under age level from the divorce...

May well be wrong but in my reasoning and with the evidence of my eyes as potential senior champions in the near future I cannot foresee such


May well be wrong, and sometimes I am, but remain to be persuaded....HH......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 01:31:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 30, 2022, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Two horse race.

Portglenone and who ?

With.easy access to the final in the worst ever seeded draw possible PG1 should make the latter stages they would/will require an extended panel.
Do they have that in a unit which has enjoyed little success at under age level from the divorce...

May well be wrong but in my reasoning and with the evidence of my eyes as potential senior champions in the near future I cannot foresee such


May well be wrong, and sometimes I am, but remain to be persuaded....HH......

Getting Cargin in the first round was pretty dreadful, for so many reasons one year after losing at Croke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Not the only time we best Galls during that time MR2!
I recall lovely summer evening near the river Bann....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 30, 2022, 05:04:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2022, 09:41:11 PM
Banty & Tony Scullion dream team.

Is there a short list yet? Who have clubs put forward? It's all gone very quiet indeed.

An unexpected point dropped last night. Rossa had a few players missing but ground it out. There was a lot of poor shooting and decision making from Creggan and that will need to be addressed. The league means little (until it means a lot). To throw it away in the last few rounds would be a big knock in confidence im sure. Particularly if Cargin pip them at the post.

Baker has Ballymena purring nicely. He is setting himself up nicely to fill the big job if he wants it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 30, 2022, 05:05:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 01:31:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 30, 2022, 12:48:16 PM







In my opinion we beat the best team in Ireland in that game
Galls left one behind them against salthill/knocknacarra
Thankfully got their All-ireland that team deserved.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Two horse race.

Portglenone and who ?

With.easy access to the final in the worst ever seeded draw possible PG1 should make the latter stages they would/will require an extended panel.
Do they have that in a unit which has enjoyed little success at under age level from the divorce...

May well be wrong but in my reasoning and with the evidence of my eyes as potential senior champions in the near future I cannot foresee such


May well be wrong, and sometimes I am, but remain to be persuaded....HH......

Getting Cargin in the first round was pretty dreadful, for so many reasons one year after losing at Croke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on June 30, 2022, 05:05:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 01:31:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 30, 2022, 12:48:16 PM







In my opinion we beat the best team in Ireland in that game
Galls left one behind them against salthill/knocknacarra
Thankfully got their All-ireland that team deserved.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Two horse race.

Portglenone and who ?

With.easy access to the final in the worst ever seeded draw possible PG1 should make the latter stages they would/will require an extended panel.
Do they have that in a unit which has enjoyed little success at under age level from the divorce...

May well be wrong but in my reasoning and with the evidence of my eyes as potential senior champions in the near future I cannot foresee such


May well be wrong, and sometimes I am, but remain to be persuaded....HH......

Getting Cargin in the first round was pretty dreadful, for so many reasons one year after losing at Croke

St. John's beat us in the first league game after we won the All Ireland, they also claimed to be the best  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on June 30, 2022, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 30, 2022, 05:36:46 PM
U must be on the sauce Nat :o,baker to get the senior job,it's either the sauce or ur just nuts

Sure it's almost the weekend  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 30, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Not the only time we best Galls during that time MR2!
I recall lovely summer evening near the river Bann....


Gerard O'Boyle was unplayable that night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2022, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Not the only time we best Galls during that time MR2!
I recall lovely summer evening near the river Bann....


Gerard O'Boyle was unplayable that night.

Correct me if I'm wrong but did St galls nor avenge that defeat and finish champions - again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Not the only time we best Galls during that time MR2!
I recall lovely summer evening near the river Bann....


Gerard O'Boyle was unplayable that night.

Was that when we lost but because of the back door won the final?

Aye O'Boyle was quality, always had that spark that you didn't know what he was going to do next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 30, 2022, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Not the only time we best Galls during that time MR2!
I recall lovely summer evening near the river Bann....


Gerard O'Boyle was unplayable that night.

Was that when we lost but because of the back door won the final?

Aye O'Boyle was quality, always had that spark that you didn't know what he was going to do next

Could of been that year.

Unpredictable on and off the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2022, 10:14:48 PM
Yeah that was a back door year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 30, 2022, 11:56:42 PM
I recall setting up a meeting with GOB and the one off that was Eddie Quinn, at the Elk, on behalf of Mickey Culbert who was senior manager at the time. Both were in his wish list to join the panel which was already up and running. Both dutifully turned up, heard Mickey's pitch, and committed to turning up at the following nights training session. A good night work...we thought!

Of course neither turned up ..lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 01, 2022, 07:49:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2022, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 30, 2022, 03:56:27 PM
Not the only time we best Galls during that time MR2!
I recall lovely summer evening near the river Bann....


Gerard O'Boyle was unplayable that night.

Was that when we lost but because of the back door won the final?

Aye O'Boyle was quality, always had that spark that you didn't know what he was going to do next
A great St Galls side in that era, but you should also be grateful for the Cargin side at that time. Only for them St Galls would have won 16 titles in a row between 2001 and 2016. No one else laid a glove on them really, St Galls never had any problem getting motivated for the Cargin games which was another sign of what a great team they were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2022, 08:22:27 AM
A great cargin side too. You do wonder how they compare to their current team. You wonder will we ever see the likes of that galls team again.

Eddie Quinn was a good one. Both them boys did play county at one point though not as much as we would have liked but doesn't always happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2022, 10:34:42 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2022, 08:22:27 AM
A great cargin side too. You do wonder how they compare to their current team. You wonder will we ever see the likes of that galls team again.

Eddie Quinn was a good one. Both them boys did play county at one point though not as much as we would have liked but doesn't always happen.

It comes in cycle's for us early 80's we won Ulster and appeared in Ulster final following year to be beaten by a great Burren club late 80's the odd 90's appearances in county finals to that team...

The tradition is there so it'll come back, might never win an All Ireland again but sure not many do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 01, 2022, 12:22:29 PM
Have St Galls won an All Ireland?   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 01, 2022, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 01, 2022, 12:22:29 PM
Have St Galls won an All Ireland?   ;)

Some of them have  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2022, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 01, 2022, 12:22:29 PM
Have St Galls won an All Ireland?   ;)

Few ulsters too. Plus a load of first rounds  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 02, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
Aghagallon only 1 point ahead of Tir na nog now, and gorts have eventually found some form, a real battle to survive in Div1 and St Brids would need a result as well just to stay safe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 02, 2022, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 02, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
Aghagallon only 1 point ahead of Tir na nog now, and gorts have eventually found some form, a real battle to survive in Div1 and St Brids would need a result as well just to stay safe.
No doubting the character within the ranks of the Ahoghill men, they did look.in trouble a few weeks past but.......write the off at your peril.






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 02, 2022, 02:02:56 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 02, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
Aghagallon only 1 point ahead of Tir na nog now, and gorts have eventually found some form, a real battle to survive in Div1 and St Brids would need a result as well just to stay safe.

We have had a ridiculous amount of injuries and men away. Hopefully get enough boys back in the next few weeks to keep us up. We have had the chance to play plenty of young lads though so hopefully that'll stand to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 04, 2022, 11:59:07 AM
Great effort by clubs at the weekend hosting the festivals of football, virtually all local clubs there in force at both venues. I caught a few games in the u11 superb atmosphere and i'm hearing it was the same over in Creggan at the younger age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 04, 2022, 12:34:24 PM
A good morning of football is right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 04, 2022, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 04, 2022, 11:59:07 AM
Great effort by clubs at the weekend hosting the festivals of football, virtually all local clubs there in force at both venues. I caught a few games in the u11 superb atmosphere and i'm hearing it was the same over in Creggan at the younger age group.
Superb in Creggan as well!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 04, 2022, 01:12:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 04, 2022, 11:59:07 AM
Great effort by clubs at the weekend hosting the festivals of football, virtually all local clubs there in force at both venues. I caught a few games in the u11 superb atmosphere and i'm hearing it was the same over in Creggan at the younger age group.

What age group is the Festival of Football for?

Is it like Go Games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 04, 2022, 01:16:10 PM
7.5s, 9.5s,11.5s, yeah just like go games with more teams present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 04, 2022, 01:33:49 PM
2 pitches full yesterday in cargin,some very talented footballers in all teams present even creggan ☺
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2022, 10:38:29 PM
Fair play to SW organisers of those sounds great , don't think happened In belfast unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2022, 10:43:05 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 04, 2022, 10:38:29 PM
Fair play to SW organisers of those sounds great , don't think happened In belfast unfortunately

Eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
There were no festivals of football In belfsdt that the boys are talking about in the country mr2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
There were no festivals of football In belfsdt that the boys are talking about in the country mr2

Multiple tournaments currently run by clubs  every year, ourselves Rossa Lamhs St Paul's all over at under age ...

There was plenty go game tournaments when I was looking after juvenile teams also, whether  the name festival of football/hurling  was used or not it was and is essentially go games.

But certainly I remember days spent at Woodlands/Corrigan/Milltown either being part of or running these games.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 05, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
There were no festivals of football In belfsdt that the boys are talking about in the country mr2

Multiple tournaments currently run by clubs  every year, ourselves Rossa Lamhs St Paul's all over at under age ...

There was plenty go game tournaments when I was looking after juvenile teams also, whether  the name festival of football/hurling  was used or not it was and is essentially go games.

But certainly I remember days spent at Woodlands/Corrigan/Milltown either being part of or running these games.

Go games for football and hurling are run on alternate weeks in SA , the only difference is that   SA is limiting the number of visting teams to one club only   as a carry over from Covid ! Hopefully get back to multiple clubs in the near future !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 05, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
There were no festivals of football In belfsdt that the boys are talking about in the country mr2

Multiple tournaments currently run by clubs  every year, ourselves Rossa Lamhs St Paul's all over at under age ...

There was plenty go game tournaments when I was looking after juvenile teams also, whether  the name festival of football/hurling  was used or not it was and is essentially go games.

But certainly I remember days spent at Woodlands/Corrigan/Milltown either being part of or running these games.

Go games for football and hurling are run on alternate weeks in SA , the only difference is that   SA is limiting the number of visting teams to one club only   as a carry over from Covid ! Hopefully get back to multiple clubs in the near future !

Can understand that, our May tournament and Pat Sheehan tournament only started back this year after covid, but Belfast GAA man was stating we don't or didn't have tournaments or go games in the past with multiple teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on July 05, 2022, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 05, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
There were no festivals of football In belfsdt that the boys are talking about in the country mr2

Multiple tournaments currently run by clubs  every year, ourselves Rossa Lamhs St Paul's all over at under age ...

There was plenty go game tournaments when I was looking after juvenile teams also, whether  the name festival of football/hurling  was used or not it was and is essentially go games.

But certainly I remember days spent at Woodlands/Corrigan/Milltown either being part of or running these games.

Go games for football and hurling are run on alternate weeks in SA , the only difference is that   SA is limiting the number of visting teams to one club only   as a carry over from Covid ! Hopefully get back to multiple clubs in the near future !

Can understand that, our May tournament and Pat Sheehan tournament only started back this year after covid, but Belfast GAA man was stating we don't or didn't have tournaments or go games in the past with multiple teams.

Rossa held the Annul joe McKelvey tournament 3 or 4 weeks ago, 16 teams from all over Antrim, plus some Down and Tyrone clubs. Brilliant tournament won by St Pauls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 05, 2022, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 05, 2022, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 05, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 05, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
There were no festivals of football In belfsdt that the boys are talking about in the country mr2

Multiple tournaments currently run by clubs  every year, ourselves Rossa Lamhs St Paul's all over at under age ...

There was plenty go game tournaments when I was looking after juvenile teams also, whether  the name festival of football/hurling  was used or not it was and is essentially go games.

But certainly I remember days spent at Woodlands/Corrigan/Milltown either being part of or running these games.

Go games for football and hurling are run on alternate weeks in SA , the only difference is that   SA is limiting the number of visting teams to one club only   as a carry over from Covid ! Hopefully get back to multiple clubs in the near future !

Can understand that, our May tournament and Pat Sheehan tournament only started back this year after covid, but Belfast GAA man was stating we don't or didn't have tournaments or go games in the past with multiple teams.

Rossa held the Annul joe McKelvey tournament 3 or 4 weeks ago, 16 teams from all over Antrim, plus some Down and Tyrone clubs. Brilliant tournament won by St Pauls

Yip, we were up at it as well as the Pat Sheehan.

Great days hurling for the kids.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 05, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
og sport coming up at the end of July, always a great competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
Yes the Og Sport is pretty good, sevens football has great benefits. Talking of small sided games, our minors had a good one with St Galls up in Milltown at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
Yes the Og Sport is pretty good, sevens football has great benefits. Talking of small sided games, our minors had a good one with St Galls up in Milltown at the weekend.

Great result, I'm sure the open top bus was doing the rounds with the Massive!!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
Yes the Og Sport is pretty good, sevens football has great benefits. Talking of small sided games, our minors had a good one with St Galls up in Milltown at the weekend.

Great result, I'm sure the open top bus was doing the rounds with the Massive!!  :D
Beating St Galls no longer carries the same weight, especially when they can only muster up 13 players at home ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
Yes the Og Sport is pretty good, sevens football has great benefits. Talking of small sided games, our minors had a good one with St Galls up in Milltown at the weekend.

Great result, I'm sure the open top bus was doing the rounds with the Massive!!  :D
Beating St Galls no longer carries the same weight, especially when they can only muster up 13 players at home ;)

Always good to know you hammered us when we had 13 players and seem chuffed about it...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 05, 2022, 04:56:02 PM
No white smoke yet on the new football manager? I've heard a few names mentioned but nothing confirmed. You'd like to think they'd be in post before the club championship so as he can get a good look.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
Yes the Og Sport is pretty good, sevens football has great benefits. Talking of small sided games, our minors had a good one with St Galls up in Milltown at the weekend.

Great result, I'm sure the open top bus was doing the rounds with the Massive!!  :D
Beating St Galls no longer carries the same weight, especially when they can only muster up 13 players at home ;)

Always good to know you hammered us when we had 13 players and seem chuffed about it...
You do realise in this case both teams play 13? Lol. Can happen any team any week by the way, I'm just saying your next All Ireland you mentined earlier in the week is a fair bit off yet!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2022, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 05, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
Yes the Og Sport is pretty good, sevens football has great benefits. Talking of small sided games, our minors had a good one with St Galls up in Milltown at the weekend.

Great result, I'm sure the open top bus was doing the rounds with the Massive!!  :D
Beating St Galls no longer carries the same weight, especially when they can only muster up 13 players at home ;)

Always good to know you hammered us when we had 13 players and seem chuffed about it...
You do realise in this case both teams play 13? Lol. Can happen any team any week by the way, I'm just saying your next All Ireland you mentined earlier in the week is a fair bit off yet!!!

When did I say we'll win our next one?  If we never win another it'll still be one more than most clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 05, 2022, 06:55:57 PM
Huge admirer of the Galls team of times past and their achievements.
However that super side is in no way comparable to an ordinary club team....

Their like will never be seen again...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
Indeed...a golden era of which we are most unlikely to ever see again. But it shows what can be done if you can bring 8 or 10 real quality players through in or around the same age group, all with basic skills intact from an early age. No matter what it's still the template for clubs to aspire to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 06, 2022, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 06, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
Indeed...a golden era of which we are most unlikely to ever see again. But it shows what can be done if you can bring 8 or 10 real quality players through in or around the same age group, all with basic skills intact from an early age. No matter what it's still the template for clubs to aspire to.

A great club side indeed but the template of how it was formed is not one to aspire to.

More kudos to the St Galls '82 team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 06, 2022, 01:10:37 PM
Slightly off topic but does anyone have some good positive stories about Gaelfast?   Could we as a collective be using it better?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2022, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on July 06, 2022, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 06, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
Indeed...a golden era of which we are most unlikely to ever see again. But it shows what can be done if you can bring 8 or 10 real quality players through in or around the same age group, all with basic skills intact from an early age. No matter what it's still the template for clubs to aspire to.

A great club side indeed but the template of how it was formed is not one to aspire to.

More kudos to the St Galls '82 team

I'd nearly second that, but if you know your history Belfast clubs did always pick up 'outsiders' but if there is a club out there (including yours) that hasn't I'd like to know...

The success is born out of successive wins at juvenile, multiple minors/under21's proved to be the platform, tradition and looking to look beyond your championship can produce better results.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 06, 2022, 02:17:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2022, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on July 06, 2022, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 06, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
Indeed...a golden era of which we are most unlikely to ever see again. But it shows what can be done if you can bring 8 or 10 real quality players through in or around the same age group, all with basic skills intact from an early age. No matter what it's still the template for clubs to aspire to.

A great club side indeed but the template of how it was formed is not one to aspire to.

More kudos to the St Galls '82 team

I'd nearly second that, but if you know your history Belfast clubs did always pick up 'outsiders' but if there is a club out there (including yours) that hasn't I'd like to know...

The success is born out of successive wins at juvenile, multiple minors/under21's proved to be the platform, tradition and looking to look beyond your championship can produce better results.
The success 'WAS' born out of successive wins at juvenile........ There I fixed it for you, history now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2022, 02:25:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 06, 2022, 02:17:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2022, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: Spike on July 06, 2022, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 06, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
Indeed...a golden era of which we are most unlikely to ever see again. But it shows what can be done if you can bring 8 or 10 real quality players through in or around the same age group, all with basic skills intact from an early age. No matter what it's still the template for clubs to aspire to.

A great club side indeed but the template of how it was formed is not one to aspire to.

More kudos to the St Galls '82 team

I'd nearly second that, but if you know your history Belfast clubs did always pick up 'outsiders' but if there is a club out there (including yours) that hasn't I'd like to know...

The success is born out of successive wins at juvenile, multiple minors/under21's proved to be the platform, tradition and looking to look beyond your championship can produce better results.
The success 'WAS' born out of successive wins at juvenile........ There I fixed it for you, history now!

I'm talking about club success, any club,  if it has that run off success will have potentially a team able to do well outside of its county championship

History has a good chance of repeating itself..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2022, 04:47:47 PM
Cargin must have a dozen class acts aged between 16 and 20, multiple winners of silverware, college stars, high % of county panellists at under 17 and under 20. Huge panel to choose from.

Can they be the next big Antrim force in Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
We just carry on striving to keep improving BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2022, 09:53:47 PM
Green machine impressive tonight, no doubt. No excuses from us EOC. Tomas rolled back the clock!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on July 06, 2022, 10:06:12 PM
PG1 very disappointing tonight Bannside , I take it you had a few missing?
I think most where expecting it to be alot closer ,only league but surely there should be some signs against a very understrengthed Cargin team at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 06, 2022, 10:11:33 PM
Lads, the league title isn't all that.

Sure the top 2 don't care about winning it, it's an afterthought sure compared to the championship....  ;)

The real story is the relegation battle which is hotting up now.

Gorts v TNN match on Friday will have a big say in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2022, 10:17:30 PM
Big win for tnn tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 06, 2022, 10:27:21 PM
Is that Rasharkin relegated to Div3 or do they get a play off?
We played well BS surely! Tomas going well keeps himself in serious shape.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 06, 2022, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 06, 2022, 10:27:21 PM
Is that Rasharkin relegated to Div3 or do they get a play off?
We played well BS surely! Tomas going well keeps himself in serious shape.
Rasharkin down
Glenavy in play off with St.Comgalls , end of Sept/ early Oct
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 06, 2022, 10:31:54 PM
With a couple of ambitious Creggan men in taking them, surely a local could of got them relegated and saved a few pounds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2022, 10:34:12 PM
Erin's we had one to forget. Cargin had more missing than us tbh. We were very flat tonight- you get games like that, ones that would leave you scratching your head all night! We missed a bagful - Cargin missed nothing...it happens!

A timely reality check to remind us there is still a gap between top two and the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on July 06, 2022, 10:48:13 PM
Flat is right Bannside although started second half well and them died off again.
Expected more from PG1 that's all !!
Your right Barnish bottom of table is the real action although I think TNN will be ok ,can't see Gorts getting what they need to stay up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 06, 2022, 11:46:57 PM
Even God himself may not work miracles on this PG1 side, thought they were pretty poor tonight
We weren't at it for long spells too and yet could have walked in 5 goals with the bare bones on display too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:07:00 AM
Will all these players (on both sides) be available for championship or teams not showing their hand or this is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 07, 2022, 07:52:31 AM
Combination of injuries&holidays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 07, 2022, 08:38:53 AM
Good to see Liam Quinn getting back to form after his long injury layoff, great talent, and a huge boost to Creggans championship aspirations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 07, 2022, 10:08:14 AM
How many go down from div 1 this year? Is there an extra place to even up the leagues?

P.s the Creggan kit last night 👌
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 11:30:16 AM
I think it must be bottom of Div1 automatically down then 2nd bottom plays 2nd in Division 2.

Think we must look at the senior championship layout next season, we now have 5 of the top 6 on one side of the draw and one of the top 6 on the other, could have another mismatch in the final like we had last year. No good for anyone that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 07, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
its 1 down automatically and the second bottom team plays the runner up in Div2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 07, 2022, 11:32:46 AM
was there some chat of bringing forward a proposal to link leagues with championship , heard that mentioned before
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 11:30:16 AM
I think it must be bottom of Div1 automatically down then 2nd bottom plays 2nd in Division 2.

Think we must look at the senior championship layout next season, we now have 5 of the top 6 on one side of the draw and one of the top 6 on the other, could have another mismatch in the final like we had last year. No good for anyone that.

Link it to the league position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 07, 2022, 11:53:36 AM
Just so we learn - what caused the 'seeded' draw this year (and last) to go so wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:19:10 PM
Luck of the draw. Winners of creggan/cargin semi to win it again this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you


Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you


Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.

Not the 5-4 affair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:51:13 PM
😂 thats true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you


Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.

Not the 5-4 affair
One final was 5-4, the other was 19-18. You were involved in neither thankfully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you


Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.

Not the 5-4 affair
One final was 5-4, the other was 19-18. You were involved in neither thankfully.

I was.. but looking forward to this year already
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 07, 2022, 02:37:31 PM
Creggan have a 2nd kit after all
Good of them to change it when they didn't really need to last night.
Cargin 1-22 Creggan 1-19 AET wasn't too bad of a game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 08, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
Here's a link to 'Derry GAA - Coaching and Development Strategy 2021 - 2026'

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/the-story-behind-derry-football-s-resurgence/?fbclid=IwAR3ajz-OGvQ05EOEWDil6XTYEZ04_U2Zj6JdQNCAfnBUgv6KfSuBbedxbXk

Very interested to know what our own development strategy is? What actions are we taking to give us a chance at a competitive senior team in future?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 08, 2022, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 08, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
Here's a link to 'Derry GAA - Coaching and Development Strategy 2021 - 2026'

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/the-story-behind-derry-football-s-resurgence/?fbclid=IwAR3ajz-OGvQ05EOEWDil6XTYEZ04_U2Zj6JdQNCAfnBUgv6KfSuBbedxbXk

Very interested to know what our own development strategy is? What actions are we taking to give us a chance at a competitive senior team in future?

i see this getting loads of plaudits in the press and social media and Chris collins been praised everywhere!
Just over two years back chris was seen as a waste of space and many calling for his head, around the same time as Brian McIver walked. How fickle people can be,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 08, 2022, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you


Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.

Not the 5-4 affair
One final was 5-4, the other was 19-18. You were involved in neither thankfully.

St Gall's did set the precedent for forgettable championship winner when they finished 0-05 to 0-04 winners over Cargin....1990
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on July 08, 2022, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 08, 2022, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 08, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
Here's a link to 'Derry GAA - Coaching and Development Strategy 2021 - 2026'

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/the-story-behind-derry-football-s-resurgence/?fbclid=IwAR3ajz-OGvQ05EOEWDil6XTYEZ04_U2Zj6JdQNCAfnBUgv6KfSuBbedxbXk

Very interested to know what our own development strategy is? What actions are we taking to give us a chance at a competitive senior team in future?

i see this getting loads of plaudits in the press and social media and Chris collins been praised everywhere!
Just over two years back chris was seen as a waste of space and many calling for his head, around the same time as Brian McIver walked. How fickle people can be,

Started reading it and at the very start he was talking about "linear pathways" so that was enough for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 08, 2022, 03:14:19 PM
Chris Collins a top notch fella btw, didnt mean that to come across as negative on him, he has overseen sterling work in Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2022, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 08, 2022, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you


Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.

Not the 5-4 affair
One final was 5-4, the other was 19-18. You were involved in neither thankfully.

St Gall's did set the precedent for forgettable championship winner when they finished 0-05 to 0-04 winners over Cargin....1990

Wasn't involved in that one at Rasharkin, Sean Burns who was a minor that day think he got his first championship medal, one of many..

Still talked about game in fairness, for all the wrong reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 09, 2022, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2022, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 08, 2022, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 07, 2022, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 07, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM
Just beat what's in front of you

That must have Seans first season with Galls MR after leaving Endas?

Agreed. Would have been nice to see another creggan/cargin final again though like 2 years ago.

Not the 5-4 affair
One final was 5-4, the other was 19-18. You were involved in neither thankfully.

St Gall's did set the precedent for forgettable championship winner when they finished 0-05 to 0-04 winners over Cargin....1990

Wasn't involved in that one at Rasharkin, Sean Burns who was a minor that day think he got his first championship medal, one of many..

Still talked about game in fairness, for all the wrong reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2022, 10:55:58 AM
Aye, Sean you as a good mate of mine from way back on Antrim juvenile teams and hanging about... he made the change around that time, played minor, and surprisingly enough St Endas played the final that year against one of the best Johnnies juvenile teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2022, 11:16:48 AM
Tight one with gnm randalstown last night. What is the situation with relegation? Is it only one team down? If there's a playoff then it's looking like aghagallon  are getting sucked into it. St Brigids not far away either. Good week for randalstown.

Real interesting fixtures left now looking at it. Aghagallon st brigids, aghagallon gnm and agahagallon tnn. Relegation always much more interesting than the top end in division one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 09, 2022, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2022, 11:16:48 AM
Tight one with gnm randalstown last night. What is the situation with relegation? Is it only one team down? If there's a playoff then it's looking like aghagallon  are getting sucked into it. St Brigids not far away either. Good week for randalstown.

Real interesting fixtures left now looking at it. Aghagallon st brigids, aghagallon gnm and agahagallon tnn. Relegation always much more interesting than the top end in division one.

Bottom team relegated.
2nd bottom in promotion / relegation match , against All Saints
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2022, 02:58:31 PM
The physicality of both these teams at Croke is a level or two above Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 09, 2022, 06:10:26 PM
That first half is instantly forgettable.....and Hawkeye is drunk.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 10, 2022, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 08, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
Here's a link to 'Derry GAA - Coaching and Development Strategy 2021 - 2026'

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/the-story-behind-derry-football-s-resurgence/?fbclid=IwAR3ajz-OGvQ05EOEWDil6XTYEZ04_U2Zj6JdQNCAfnBUgv6KfSuBbedxbXk

Very interested to know what our own development strategy is? What actions are we taking to give us a chance at a competitive senior team in future?


Have you the link to Galway's ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 11, 2022, 01:14:47 PM
So a Meath man is to take the Saffron reins....bet he will be welcomed aboard on this board...

Well for a while.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2022, 01:30:16 PM
"And from the plains of Royal Meath
Strong men came hurrying through
While Brittania's Huns with their long range guns
Sailed in through the foggy dew"

Welcome aboard chief..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2022, 01:39:41 PM
An ambitious signal of intent from county officers. A football man with huge experience and no small measure of success. Good luck Andy and well done to the individuals behind sourcing and overseeing the appointment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2022, 01:44:28 PM
Who is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on July 11, 2022, 01:49:39 PM
A great appointment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 01:55:12 PM
Andy McEntee according to Brendan Crossan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2022, 01:56:38 PM
Cheers. Interesting appointment. Shows some ambition which is great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Onthe40 on July 11, 2022, 02:15:12 PM
Good work by Antrim board.. got it sorted quickly and good honest guy coming in who will keep the standards high
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on July 11, 2022, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 11, 2022, 01:57:33 PM
Good appointment. Best of luck to him.

Wonder will he be wanting to burn all the hurls in Antrim like he did in Meath when he took over there???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 11, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 11, 2022, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 11, 2022, 01:57:33 PM
Good appointment. Best of luck to him.

Wonder will he be wanting to burn all the hurls in Antrim like he did in Meath when he took over there???

Seems he got serious abuse down there....keyboard warriors were not as bad as threats of harm and other abuse received....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2022, 02:58:03 PM
His last year or two seemed a bit sour but he had done quite well up to then. Meath suffered a lot from what a lot of counties suffer - a lot of their best players weren't committing. There seemed to be a significant amount of abuse with the son being in the setup too which ended up quite toxic.

All that said I think he got Meath to the "super" 8s and was he not the boy in charge of ballyboden when they won the club AI? (I think the day cushendall were in the final). I would expect him to be decent enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 11, 2022, 03:22:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2022, 02:58:03 PM
His last year or two seemed a bit sour but he had done quite well up to then. Meath suffered a lot from what a lot of counties suffer - a lot of their best players weren't committing. There seemed to be a significant amount of abuse with the son being in the setup too which ended up quite toxic.

All that said I think he got Meath to the "super" 8s and was he not the boy in charge of ballyboden when they won the club AI? (I think the day cushendall were in the final). I would expect him to be decent enough.

Indeed he was the man who led Ballyboden to their AI title...
.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
Yes won All Ireland club with Ballyboden St Endas. This man can shake things up here big time. A big shout out to one or two people in particular who went out of their way to secure this very exciting appointment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 11, 2022, 03:44:20 PM
Very happy with McEntee.  Credit to the County Board, keeps the flame flickering.  If I was a player I'd be thinking this is worth committing to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2022, 07:48:57 PM
Needs to be ratified now by clubs at CC tonight. Should be a formality. Hopefully start of a new and successful era for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2022, 09:16:27 PM
Who is stumping up the pound coins ? Seems like a bright guy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 11, 2022, 09:20:21 PM
Think this is a great appointment. Has the potential to be a real game changer, he will surely get buy in from players prepared to commit to his structure and process. Fair play everyone involved. McEntee could be the footballers version of Gleeson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2022, 09:37:26 PM
It's official. Great work all involved, none more so than our ambitious and hardworking county treasurer who found a way to make this happen. This on top of a new sponsorship deal pending which he also was highly involved in.

Breaking the mould ...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 11, 2022, 09:41:43 PM
Really positive appointment, well done to all involved. He will make his way up to few club championship games in the next month or two no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 10:06:07 PM
Great appointment that shows ambition.
Patience will be vital
Remember watching Antrim this  year and alot of old hands were still the main players and they were the wrong side of 30 .
His biggest task will be to blood some youth in a very competitive division 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 11, 2022, 10:15:58 PM
Yes agree there FG, if he can blood a young team together, stay in div 3 it will be a great first season. Div3 looks tougher next season but teams like Down are there for the taking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2022, 10:21:43 PM
A shout out to Coaching & Games Development officer Paddy Kelly who was also involved in this appointment process and is upping his game all the time now behind the scenes with some good initiatives. Credit where it's due.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2022, 10:23:52 PM
Will he be bringing his own team or strategically picking ones from certain clubs to keep people happy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 11, 2022, 10:43:31 PM
Didn't expect him to be the selection but more that I thought he'd ruled himself out of a county role for the meantime.

Think it's a good choice and hopefully he's a good at the side of the pitch with our squad as our seems in paper he will be.

Time for every supporter, every club and every player to get behind him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2022, 11:13:03 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2022, 09:16:27 PM
Who is stumping up the pound coins ? Seems like a bright guy

Creagh, Premier Electrics, Northern property.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 12, 2022, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 11, 2022, 10:21:43 PM
A shout out to Coaching & Games Development officer Paddy Kelly who was also involved in this appointment process and is upping his game all the time now behind the scenes with some good initiatives. Credit where it's due.

How does it work BS?

A few people come together, brain storm, come up with a candidate then approach the said candidate?

Or was there an official team put together?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 12, 2022, 09:32:00 AM
Yes something like that Marty. After the process where the clubs got an opportunity to nominate (that response was underwhelming) a sub committee was formed to look after the project and begin to proactively have conversations with those who ticked the main boxes on essential and preferred criteria.

Andy Mc Entee ticks practically every box on that list - as Barnish says it's time for every supporter club and player to get behind him from the start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 12, 2022, 09:33:47 AM
A significant appointment for our county and kudos for those on the board for a job well done.
Our expectations must be to retain status in what looks a strong division three and such will not be easy.

Seems Mc Entee has a problem with social media and he will expect, and should be given time to lead us upwards.

But recruitment in youth is essential and with one or two notable exceptions I struggle to see the emergence of young prospects in our club scene.
Our schools and colleges are not providing, and it is obvious that South Derry educated students are ensuring some South West teams are making more impact..

As I said think the new man at the help needs to be given the gift of time........

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 12, 2022, 09:49:01 AM
https://www.skysports.com/gaa/gaelic-football/news/30553/12650414/andy-mcentee-takes-over-as-antrim-senior-football-manager-weeks-after-meath-departure

Well worth a read ...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 12, 2022, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 12, 2022, 09:54:13 AM
Would you not be better giving Andy more time instead of banty ?

????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 12, 2022, 10:15:56 AM
Nice touch by the new man praising and recognising the obvious strides forward made by the previous management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2022, 11:15:41 AM
Antrim could even catch up with Meath. Leinster is a mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: yellowcard on July 12, 2022, 01:03:23 PM
Enda McGinley done a very good job with Antrim but I thought he'd probably taken them just about as far as he could. The priority for Antrim should be producing a few decent underage teams, they are always the whipping boys in the underage competitions and to improve longer term they need to build from the bottom up rather than the top down. That said you do need a strong senior team in order to generate the interest and it can a positive knock on effect. Just look at Derry where Gallagher has helped regenerate a dormant fan base. McEntee is a good appointment for them with a proven track record and the fact that they have made the appointment early is critical for preparation. Division 3 looks like a very competitive League next year.     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2022, 01:26:54 PM
We'll be the team that the rest will be looking to take points off next season... Cavan and Westmeath based on the final would clean us out home and away, we'll need to target two teams 4 games to stay up...

Thank god we've these south Derry lads coming through to improve the senior county team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 12, 2022, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2022, 01:26:54 PM
We'll be the team that the rest will be looking to take points off next season... Cavan and Westmeath based on the final would clean us out home and away, we'll need to target two teams 4 games to stay up...

Thank god we've these south Derry lads coming through to improve the senior county team
Some serious talent is coming through this avenue, they are our closest schools. We're making an effort down here, cant be relying supposed big name teams with all this tradition that cant fill 15 jerseys in a minor team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2022, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 12, 2022, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2022, 01:26:54 PM
We'll be the team that the rest will be looking to take points off next season... Cavan and Westmeath based on the final would clean us out home and away, we'll need to target two teams 4 games to stay up...

Thank god we've these south Derry lads coming through to improve the senior county team
Some serious talent is coming through this avenue, they are our closest schools. We're making an effort down here, cant be relying supposed big name teams with all this tradition that cant fill 15 jerseys in a minor team

It's the summer holidays lad, get over it the bitterness is still strong in Toome
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 12, 2022, 02:23:32 PM
Some individual with little respect for South West teams does not pay attention to what is happening....in South Derry Schools and their students, and former students.

Seems he missed the fact that South Derry educated lads gained the Mc Crory cup this term and both Senior and Minor Ulster titles as well as making appearance in All Ireland semis.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 12, 2022, 02:27:42 PM
I've said thank god we've these lads coming through to senior eventually... what more would you want me to say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 12, 2022, 02:40:41 PM
Longford, Down, Offaly and Fermanagh all in Div3 I think. Nothing to fear from any of them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 12, 2022, 02:54:40 PM
Agree 100%. Andy can reboot back to a state where we were going well under Enda, before the wheels came off. For the majority of Westmeath match we were in control....they won the Tailltean too, including beating Cavan when it mattered, so yes, Duile is correct, Andy can galvanise the squad and once he adds his own value we should start becoming competitive again in our own grade. That's all most of us ask.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 13, 2022, 08:47:59 AM
Congrats to Antrim on getting this over the line so quickly. It was vital to do so. It'll give McEntee every chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 13, 2022, 11:30:25 PM
Heard that Stevie quin and kell been approached about joining mgt. Don't think it will suit either tbh with timing , a pity as 2 good men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 13, 2022, 11:58:15 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 12, 2022, 09:32:00 AM
Yes something like that Marty. After the process where the clubs got an opportunity to nominate (that response was underwhelming) a sub committee was formed to look after the project and begin to proactively have conversations with those who ticked the main boxes on essential and preferred criteria.

Andy Mc Entee ticks practically every box on that list - as Barnish says it's time for every supporter club and player to get behind him from the start.

Ok. Thanks for that.

Must have sold it well to Andy - quick off the mark there.

Split season must help a bit in that regard nowadays.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 14, 2022, 08:10:11 PM
Lot of stuff on here about the boys going to south Derry schools getting well trained Etc. For a long time belfast secondary schools woeful at promoting GAA. If money can be found for senior management surely some can be found for a secondary schools promotion officer ? Better spend for long term surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 08:23:23 PM
History will show you that success from all these South Derry schools hasn't transferred at senior club level if you look at the numbers of Championship winners..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 14, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 08:23:23 PM
History will show you that success from all these South Derry schools hasn't transferred at senior club level if you look at the numbers of Championship winners..

But recent history would suggest the tide has turned....six out of the last senior titles went to the South West and indeed the last three minor titles went on the same route....

Tide turned....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on July 14, 2022, 08:47:45 PM
A great capture in Andy for Antrim GAA. Bannside who is his backroom team, you are  in the know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 14, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 08:23:23 PM
History will show you that success from all these South Derry schools hasn't transferred at senior club level if you look at the numbers of Championship winners..

But recent history would suggest the tide has turned....six out of the last senior titles went to the South West and indeed the last three minor titles went on the same route....

Tide turned....

Will be 7 again this year from what's on show
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 14, 2022, 09:25:23 PM
So schools don't matter? Serious ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 14, 2022, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 08:23:23 PM
History will show you that success from all these South Derry schools hasn't transferred at senior club level if you look at the numbers of Championship winners..
Doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 14, 2022, 10:42:57 PM
Clubs help schools and schools should help clubs surely.
U dong want a lad getting to 16/17 and have only had 1 coach moving up with the lad every year no matter how good the club coach is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 11:10:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 14, 2022, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 08:23:23 PM
History will show you that success from all these South Derry schools hasn't transferred at senior club level if you look at the numbers of Championship winners..
Doesn't make sense


I know!! Because with so much success you'd expect a huge amount of SW teams winning championships but the reality is Cargin and Creggan last year are the only SW winners in the past god knows how long years..

But yeah it can only be encouraged and the fruits of a successful school system will benefit Antrim ( should they still play after school)

How many Sigerson winners have come from that set up in the SW, must be a brave few
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2022, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 14, 2022, 11:22:39 PM
Don't bring Sigerson into it. It's hardly relevant at all.
This is about MacRory ye know.

Anyway, that St.Gall's All Ireland team that we all admire - I'd say many more played (& some won) Sigerson Cup than played MacRory.

I was trying to draw this out a bit!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 15, 2022, 08:36:14 AM
Clubs have the ultimate responsibility for player development pathway. They need to ensure every juvenile has the optimum environment possible to develop and thrive. That's always going to be plan A.

However, it cannot be contested that when this promising juvenile at age 12 enters secondary education, he/she/it will benefit largely if they are in the panel of a hard working and ambitious school team, and maintain this for between 5 and 7 years up until leaving age.

Some of the really ambitious schools could be contributing 10 hours a week into each player.....x 30 weeks a year....by up to 7 years. That's a lot of touches of the ball, a lot of S&C, a lot of flexibility stretching yoga or whatever else.

That has to be an advantage to that player versus the development pathway for an equally promising 12 year old who goes to a school that dosent bother it's ass promoting anything relevant GAA wise.

It's about getting the balance.

There's no doubt that we need to up the ante in board supported coaching activity and games promotion in post primary schools. It's not about winning Mc Rory, it's about ensuring a proper pathway is in place for every potential Antrim footballer of the future, and a talent identification pipeline is established to make sure less and less potentially elite players slip through the net.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2022, 08:52:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 15, 2022, 08:36:14 AM
Clubs have the ultimate responsibility for player development pathway. They need to ensure every juvenile has the optimum environment possible to develop and thrive. That's always going to be plan A.

However, it cannot be contested that when this promising juvenile at age 12 enters secondary education, he/she/it will benefit largely if they are in the panel of a hard working and ambitious school team, and maintain this for between 5 and 7 years up until leaving age.

Some of the really ambitious schools could be contributing 10 hours a week into each player.....x 30 weeks a year....by up to 7 years. That's a lot of touches of the ball, a lot of S&C, a lot of flexibility stretching yoga or whatever else.

That has to be an advantage to that player versus the development pathway for an equally promising 12 year old who goes to a school that dosent bother it's ass promoting anything relevant GAA wise.

It's about getting the balance.

There's no doubt that we need to up the ante in board supported coaching activity and games promotion in post primary schools. It's not about winning Mc Rory, it's about ensuring a proper pathway is in place for every potential Antrim footballer of the future, and a talent identification pipeline is established to make sure less and less potentially elite players slip through the net.

Nobody is not saying extra time playing GAA at school isn't a bad thing, its just not going to win you a championship at club senior level, I'm sorry to burst that theory, if this was the case then as said already we'd have a disproportionately amount of clubs in the SW winning the Antrim senior football championships..

I'd say looking back at school, and we didn't play any other sports but GAA, in my year there wouldn't have been many that played on (after leaving school) to reach their senior teams.. no distractions then other than the usual women and drink!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 15, 2022, 09:46:26 AM
MR2 the problem is in recent times the SW have dominated winning the championship and will continue to do so.

Cargin or Creggan are looking a cert to win it again this year and for the next few years! (This is a testament to the work done within these clubs, not the schools).

I will hazard a guess that St Galls will be the next city team to win a championship but they are miles away at present.

At the same time it is fair to ask how the rest of the team sin the SW are going to close the gap on the top two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 15, 2022, 09:50:22 AM
Since 2014 - 7 senior championships, 6 to the SW and one to Belfast (Lamh Dhearg). I can't see a Belfast club winning one in at least the next 5 years that's as far as I can look relatively accurately. Is that disproportionate enough for you MR2. The school thing helps but it's the hard work being done in a club that counts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 15, 2022, 09:54:08 AM
Quote from: Caesar on July 15, 2022, 09:46:26 AM
MR2 the problem is in recent times the SW have dominated winning the championship and will continue to do so.

Cargin or Creggan are looking a cert to win it again this year and for the next few years! (This is a testament to the work done within these clubs, not the schools).

I will hazard a guess that St Galls will be the next city team to win a championship but they are miles away at present.

At the same time it is fair to ask how the rest of the team sin the SW are going to close the gap on the top two.
Some clubs aren't doing much Ceasar, if you attend go games at 7, 9, 11 and see some of the u13 games you can see there are some clubs that are basically doing nothing to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2022, 10:56:16 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 15, 2022, 09:50:22 AM
Since 2014 - 7 senior championships, 6 to the SW and one to Belfast (Lamh Dhearg). I can't see a Belfast club winning one in at least the next 5 years that's as far as I can look relatively accurately. Is that disproportionate enough for you MR2. The school thing helps but it's the hard work being done in a club that counts.

I'm in agreement with how well the SW finally got their shit together and started to produce winning teams at senior championship level, it can only bring on greater improvement of football at senior level in the county..

how sustainable that is, is not down to schools but that's not to discourage or belittle the great work some schools are doing its down to the coaches and foresight of club members within clubs.

I don't think we'll hit the panic button just yet, I don't see a major shift to the city in terms of championships, that being said certain teams with tradition will always bounce back at some point..

Ports will defo make some headway in a few years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 15, 2022, 11:08:44 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 15, 2022, 08:36:14 AM
Clubs have the ultimate responsibility for player development pathway. They need to ensure every juvenile has the optimum environment possible to develop and thrive. That's always going to be plan A.

However, it cannot be contested that when this promising juvenile at age 12 enters secondary education, he/she/it will benefit largely if they are in the panel of a hard working and ambitious school team, and maintain this for between 5 and 7 years up until leaving age.

Some of the really ambitious schools could be contributing 10 hours a week into each player.....x 30 weeks a year....by up to 7 years. That's a lot of touches of the ball, a lot of S&C, a lot of flexibility stretching yoga or whatever else.

That has to be an advantage to that player versus the development pathway for an equally promising 12 year old who goes to a school that dosent bother it's ass promoting anything relevant GAA wise.

It's about getting the balance.

There's no doubt that we need to up the ante in board supported coaching activity and games promotion in post primary schools. It's not about winning Mc Rory, it's about ensuring a proper pathway is in place for every potential Antrim footballer of the future, and a talent identification pipeline is established to make sure less and less potentially elite players slip through the net.
what is the optimum environment? Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 15, 2022, 11:15:42 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 15, 2022, 09:54:08 AM
Quote from: Caesar on July 15, 2022, 09:46:26 AM
MR2 the problem is in recent times the SW have dominated winning the championship and will continue to do so.

Cargin or Creggan are looking a cert to win it again this year and for the next few years! (This is a testament to the work done within these clubs, not the schools).

I will hazard a guess that St Galls will be the next city team to win a championship but they are miles away at present.

That's it perfectly. Too many clubs letting anyone take juvenile teams. When you go to go games kids are generally on a par, and if you take those teams across to Derry again denerally very little in it. It all starts to go wrong at u12/u14. Daddy gets in charge of his sons team and he's intent in staying with wee jimmy all the up through the ages. Daddy knows everything there is to know about the game that why he doesn't need to bother going to any coaching courses or doing any of the cpd run events. He decides to drop the team to div2 or 3 at u15 as would be better for the lads, when really he's chasing a bloody second class trophy to show everyone how great a coach he is. And don't mention the county development squads, what would their mentors know, kids will get coached far better by him in the club.
That's the mentality that is out there in many clubs, and club committees permit it to happen as they are only too glad to get someone to take the teams.



At the same time it is fair to ask how the rest of the team sin the SW are going to close the gap on the top two.
Some clubs aren't doing much Ceasar, if you attend go games at 7, 9, 11 and see some of the u13 games you can see there are some clubs that are basically doing nothing to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 15, 2022, 11:23:33 AM
An environment where juveniles have the best possible opportunity to prosper according to the potential they have.

Where potential flourishes and does not diminish.

There's many components needed to create that environment, and probably no club gets it perfect. But that should not deter clubs from offering a lot more than what they are at present.

Yes Milltown, Casements will get their reward in due course. The age groups EOC talk of (under 7 to 13) things are thriving, a lot of quality in there. Or put it this way, a lot lot more than there has ever been around here, and the structure around that to continue building is very strong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2022, 10:51:37 PM
A draw will do Creggan on Monday night at Hannahstown and please county board make sure the Eddie Fitz is at hand.
Despite those who try to demean the league, nine times out of ten the best team will win it....condescending nonsense to imply otherwise.

Suppose the championship is a toss of the coin between the big 2.

Ballymena get a big shot at promotion too. Be great to see them in div one...but would be some fall from Aghagallon should that come to pass. Interesting times!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2022, 10:55:56 PM
I'm surprised that the most knowledgeable posters had us relegated early doors but strange that the county finalists are in a playoff game... sure we'll solider on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2022, 11:02:52 PM
Think that was poster singular MR!!

Athough can't see Galls at the top table for quite a while tbh. Definitely a few years of transition ahead.

SW is where it's at for the foreseeable future by the look of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2022, 11:10:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 16, 2022, 11:02:52 PM
Think that was poster singular MR!!

Athough can't see Galls at the top table for quite a while tbh. Definitely a few years of transition ahead.

SW is where it's at for the foreseeable future by the look of things.

Aye can't see any SA team getting close for a while yet, was at our game today and while we dispatched Ahoghill better that how your club does we are very young and inexperienced, plenty of enthusiasm and a willingness to learn we've no names that people would recognise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 16, 2022, 11:51:34 PM
Thing you'll find is that Ahoghill pick and choose the games they really empty the tank for. I can only applaud the way they represent the dual code and remain competitive whenever they really set their sights. A one off, and in no way should a club with the catchment area St Galls come from should ever claim any victory over Ahoghill, and I mean ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 17, 2022, 12:02:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2022, 11:10:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 16, 2022, 11:02:52 PM
Think that was poster singular MR!!

Athough can't see Galls at the top table for quite a while tbh. Definitely a few years of transition ahead.

SW is where it's at for the foreseeable future by the look of things.

Aye can't see any SA team getting close for a while yet, was at our game today and while we dispatched Ahoghill better that how your club does we are very young and inexperienced, plenty of enthusiasm and a willingness to learn we've no names that people would recognise

Mcgirr, burns, cc, all quality youth players for galls, plenty of talent coming through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2022, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 16, 2022, 11:51:34 PM
Thing you'll find is that Ahoghill pick and choose the games they really empty the tank for. I can only applaud the way they represent the dual code and remain competitive whenever they really set their sights. A one off, and in no way should a club with the catchment area St Galls come from should ever claim any victory over Ahoghill, and I mean ever.

Look at our team sheet today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 17, 2022, 12:40:45 AM
Yea some good individuals alright, no argument there, but it takes 20 / 25  real gooduns to cut the mustard. Or to be in the top two. That's the real challenge and it don't come easy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 17, 2022, 09:34:38 AM
Cannot envisage Gall's as a force to be reckoned with in the near future....they seem to have numbers but lacking in quality and certainly no continuity as the family connections from super teams of the past.

They could only find 13 for the minor side when Cargin visited a few weeks past....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2022, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 17, 2022, 09:34:38 AM
Cannot envisage Gall's as a force to be reckoned with in the near future....they seem to have numbers but lacking in quality and certainly no continuity as the family connections from super teams of the past.

They could only find 13 for the minor side when Cargin visited a few weeks past....

Jesus!! That's a real sore point for 13 aside game...

You said in one sentence we have the numbers but then say we only had 13 !

I would it's not a big problem we are overly concerned with

As for families we'd two playing yesterday who's dads lined out at Croke park twice, so along with the rest of you post it's not been well thought out, except we won't be challenging
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 18, 2022, 01:15:17 AM
Bannside, do the Ahoghill lads play for yous underage? I know the stinsons arent about anymore so where do Ahoghills youngsters play?

Their senior team deserves massive credit. Every single year they pull it out of the fire to stay up.

Big Boris is going to play til hes about 60!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 18, 2022, 09:28:26 AM
Ahoghill have recently sent representatives to speak to a number of different local clubs to find a home for their underage players (including Moneyglass, Ballymena, Portglenone...).
Unsure what the outcome has been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 18, 2022, 11:49:23 AM
Quote from: geezer on July 18, 2022, 01:15:17 AM
Bannside, do the Ahoghill lads play for yous underage? I know the stinsons arent about anymore so where do Ahoghills youngsters play?

Their senior team deserves massive credit. Every single year they pull it out of the fire to stay up.

Big Boris is going to play til hes about 60!!
They were unceremoniously dumped by Portglenone a few years back 2019 I think without much notice, that was the rumour anyway. I have seen some of them play for Tir Na Nog in recent times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 18, 2022, 12:42:37 PM
Have Ahoghill no underage at all?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 18, 2022, 12:51:27 PM
I saw them play our u11s so they may have teams from that age down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 18, 2022, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 18, 2022, 09:28:26 AM
Ahoghill have recently sent representatives to speak to a number of different local clubs to find a home for their underage players (including Moneyglass, Ballymena, Portglenone...).
Unsure what the outcome has been.

First I have heard that Ceasar.....have family links in Clooney and Cargin do have a lad playing in our juveniles from St Mary's.

He did refuse to go to PG1......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 18, 2022, 04:26:59 PM
Is Clooney definitely safe in Div 1? If Aghagallon win they'll be level on points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 18, 2022, 04:40:55 PM
Maybe goes on head to head games, I think Ahoghill beat them twice this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 18, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: ck on July 18, 2022, 04:26:59 PM
Is Clooney definitely safe in Div 1? If Aghagallon win they'll be level on points.

Ahoghill beat them home and away so would be safe on head to head and also points difference.......in any case, i can't see Ahoghill losing to us on Wednesday......there would have been a few sore heads on Sunday morning so they won't be up to much!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 18, 2022, 08:41:42 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 18, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: ck on July 18, 2022, 04:26:59 PM
Is Clooney definitely safe in Div 1? If Aghagallon win they'll be level on points.

Ahoghill beat them home and away so would be safe on head to head and also points difference.......in any case, i can't see Ahoghill losing to us on Wednesday......there would have been a few sore heads on Sunday morning so they won't be up to much!

L.Dhearg really looking to give Creggan a run for their money up at Hannahstown tonight...

Seems a lot of their first team not available....PC is wing back....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 18, 2022, 08:51:19 PM
Those important league wins....yawn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 18, 2022, 09:55:05 PM
Fully deserving league champions, a brilliant panel effort.
Surely now the bookies will see some sense and install then as the hot favs for the major honour October 9th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 18, 2022, 09:56:17 PM
L Dhearg 2-07
Kickham's 0-15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 18, 2022, 10:33:03 PM
Congratulations Creggan. To the victors the spoils!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 19, 2022, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 18, 2022, 10:33:03 PM
Congratulations Creggan. To the victors the spoils!

Do not recall any such congratulations extended to Cargin last year.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2022, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 19, 2022, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 18, 2022, 10:33:03 PM
Congratulations Creggan. To the victors the spoils!

Do not recall any such congratulations extended to Cargin last year.....

Think he's taking the piss, the league isn't really a big deal, only one show in town
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 19, 2022, 01:38:51 PM
League means very little is right, PG1 straight run to county final.
will they be fit to beat a big gun in final for 5th time of asking this year, doubtful but a one off game I guess, St Galls to shock a few in group is my prediction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 19, 2022, 02:01:09 PM
Nice balanced view by Kevin Brady of Antrim footballs current situation and the new manager in the Irish News. Who could argue with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 20, 2022, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on July 19, 2022, 01:38:51 PM
League means very little is right, PG1 straight run to county final.
will they be fit to beat a big gun in final for 5th time of asking this year, doubtful but a one off game I guess, St Galls to shock a few in group is my prediction.

PG1 undoubtedly the easier side of the draw but this is a team who were beat by Clooney, St Brigid's and Aghagallon last year! Bit early for talk about a county final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 20, 2022, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: Caesar on July 20, 2022, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on July 19, 2022, 01:38:51 PM
League means very little is right, PG1 straight run to county final.
will they be fit to beat a big gun in final for 5th time of asking this year, doubtful but a one off game I guess, St Galls to shock a few in group is my prediction.

PG1 undoubtedly the easier side of the draw but this is a team who were beat by Clooney, St Brigid's and Aghagallon last year! Bit early for talk about a county final!

When does the championship start?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 20, 2022, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 20, 2022, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: Caesar on July 20, 2022, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on July 19, 2022, 01:38:51 PM
League means very little is right, PG1 straight run to county final.
will they be fit to beat a big gun in final for 5th time of asking this year, doubtful but a one off game I guess, St Galls to shock a few in group is my prediction.

PG1 undoubtedly the easier side of the draw but this is a team who were beat by Clooney, St Brigid's and Aghagallon last year! Bit early for talk about a county final!

When does the championship start?

31st July.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:15:36 AM
Aghagallon - Ballymena promotion / relegation playoff I think looking at results?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2022, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:15:36 AM
Aghagallon - Ballymena promotion / relegation playoff I think looking at results?

Be some game... think these games aren't being played right away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 21, 2022, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:15:36 AM
Aghagallon - Ballymena promotion / relegation playoff I think looking at results?

Is it a 2 legged aggregate scores carry on same as the last one was in 2019, or a 1 off at a neutral venue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 10:07:02 AM
No idea hoof.

Glenavy / Antrim in the division 2 / 3 playoff I think it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on July 21, 2022, 10:20:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2022, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:15:36 AM
Aghagallon - Ballymena promotion / relegation playoff I think looking at results?

Be some game... think these games aren't being played right away?

Na, just the 3 months to look forward to it  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 21, 2022, 11:16:26 AM
Promotion and relegation should be sorted before championship i.e. next week. 1 game winner takes all neutral venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on July 21, 2022, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: breakingball on July 21, 2022, 11:16:26 AM
Promotion and relegation should be sorted before championship i.e. next week. 1 game winner takes all neutral venue.

Exactly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 21, 2022, 04:21:36 PM
Relegation playoffs always seem to be in mud in November when they happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2022, 06:12:24 PM
Both teams will be training for championship, hardly sitting on their hands doing nothing, I'm guessing week after championship finishes...

If you want to go up or stay up you'll prepare accordingly, teams might be in better shape...

For the record it would be handier at a midweek neutral venue before championship, but who would have voted on this? Clubs? Are delegates informed at start of year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 21, 2022, 07:24:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2022, 06:12:24 PM
Both teams will be training for championship, hardly sitting on their hands doing nothing, I'm guessing week after championship finishes...

If you want to go up or stay up you'll prepare accordingly, teams might be in better shape...

For the record it would be handier at a midweek neutral venue before championship, but who would have voted on this? Clubs? Are delegates informed at start of year?

Clubs were updated on schedule in mid February.

P/Offs are provisionally scheduled  for 11th or 25th Sept,  but I think , Div 1 / 2 will be pushed back due to championship , Aghagallon & Ballymena would be fancied for QF and/ or Semi but  Glenavy v Antrim likely to take place on 25th Sept.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.

Probably not far off, far too strong for div 3, but why change the habits of a lifetime eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 21, 2022, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.

Probably not far off, far too strong for div 3, but why change the habits of a lifetime eh?

Care to expand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on July 22, 2022, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.

Probably not far off, far too strong for div 3, but why change the habits of a lifetime eh?

website says they "only" scored 7-07, what's the hullaballoo?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.

Probably not far off, far too strong for div 3, but why change the habits of a lifetime eh?

It was a typo, we scored 7-7.

I take it that last comment was a snide one, although not well informed which isn't a surprise.

Bearing in mind our u15s lost every game in Div 2 last year, or were you not aware of that?

Admittedly we are too strong this year and would have been as strong as mid Div 2 teams but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

We weren't last year and likely won't be next year, so you make the call based on the players you have available, not a long running decision to play in lower leagues for the sake of it.

Our u17 team are the same in Div 3 but next year it will change to last years u15 team and the standard will drop again just due to player availability.

We aren't like the St Brigids of this world, who we played last night, and who fielded 15 players against us with no subs but had about 20 players on the adjacent pitch against PG1 and I understand they had a few missing as well.

Not singling out St Brigids for anything wrong here btw, just saying some teams have big numbers to call on regularly and some can only scrape by some years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2022, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 22, 2022, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.

Probably not far off, far too strong for div 3, but why change the habits of a lifetime eh?

website says they "only" scored 7-07, what's the hullaballoo?

It did say 70-7 at one point and I wasn't having a go at randalstown. I am from a small club too and have seen exactly the pains you talk about barnish. Flush one year and scraping things together the next. Just how it goes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2022, 10:06:21 AM
Seen a Belfast club rack up a huge score over a SW club I was reluctant to put the score in as it's not exactly confidence boosting.. fielding teams at underage has been harder for clubs due to not being allowed to play above your age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2022, 10:09:14 AM
I mind getting beat 55-1 and 59-0 in consecutive weeks. It happens sometimes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 22, 2022, 10:14:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 22, 2022, 10:09:14 AM
I mind getting beat 55-1 and 59-0 in consecutive weeks. It happens sometimes.

Is the seeding wrong there?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:15:13 AM
Who scored the point...lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 10:28:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 22, 2022, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on July 22, 2022, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 21, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 21, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I am assuming there is a typo on the Antrim website and randalstown didn't score 70 goals and 7 points in their u15 division 3 game.

Probably not far off, far too strong for div 3, but why change the habits of a lifetime eh?

website says they "only" scored 7-07, what's the hullaballoo?

It did say 70-7 at one point and I wasn't having a go at randalstown. I am from a small club too and have seen exactly the pains you talk about barnish. Flush one year and scraping things together the next. Just how it goes.

Yes ITG, sorry I know you weren't having a go but the other one was.

The typo was definitely up last night and they updated the league table with the score.

I had to screenshot it for the laugh as it had us with a +423 points difference!!

You would think whoever was typing that in would have thought to themselves that something was amiss before doing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 10:47:46 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2022, 10:36:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.
Has their act not been together for a good while now?

Yeah I think St Brigids and St Pauls are going to be forces to be reckoned with if they keep those teams together and bring them onto senior in the next 5-10 years.

Obviously you will continue to have Cargin and Creggan up there too but I think the two Belfast teams will be challenging.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 22, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
what fo the Gaelfast team do during summer months? dont say Cul Camps lads cos they wre there before Gaelfast
would be good to see them out doing something new
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2022, 10:55:19 AM
Not overly convinced on St Paul's but would like to be proven wrong.

I know they are well set up at u15 and u17 which is what i am basing that on.

I would have said they would be as likely to make it as St Brigids.

PG1 then seem to be a couple of years behind them with strong u11 and u13 teams.

But it all depends on being able to bring the strong nucleus of each team through to senior which may or may not happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 22, 2022, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 22, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
what fo the Gaelfast team do during summer months? dont say Cul Camps lads cos they wre there before Gaelfast
would be good to see them out doing something new

Last I heard they were out about bonfires helping to build them. Bit of cross community
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 22, 2022, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2022, 10:55:19 AM
Not overly convinced on St Paul's but would like to be proven wrong.

I know they are well set up at u15 and u17 which is what i am basing that on.

I would have said they would be as likely to make it as St Brigids.

PG1 then seem to be a couple of years behind them with strong u11 and u13 teams.

But it all depends on being able to bring the strong nucleus of each team through to senior which may or may not happen.

The Cargin minor team which won the minor championship 2020 were beaten by 51 points in an under 14 game 2016
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 22, 2022, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 22, 2022, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2022, 10:55:19 AM
Not overly convinced on St Paul's but would like to be proven wrong.

I know they are well set up at u15 and u17 which is what i am basing that on.

I would have said they would be as likely to make it as St Brigids.

PG1 then seem to be a couple of years behind them with strong u11 and u13 teams.

But it all depends on being able to bring the strong nucleus of each team through to senior which may or may not happen.

The Cargin minor team which won the minor championship 2020 were beaten by 51 points in an under 14 game 2016

Coaching plus culture?   St Brigids have been productive at underage for a time now but seem to bridge that gap from minors to senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.

Conveyer belt in fine BS, but has to be end product. Serious questions need asked at senior level at Musgrave Park. Too much talent being wasted or not even given a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 22, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2022, 10:55:19 AM
Not overly convinced on St Paul's but would like to be proven wrong.

I know they are well set up at u15 and u17 which is what i am basing that on.

I would have said they would be as likely to make it as St Brigids.

PG1 then seem to be a couple of years behind them with strong u11 and u13 teams.

But it all depends on being able to bring the strong nucleus of each team through to senior which may or may not happen.

Bit of  trump propaganda there. Yous have been consistently winning Sw div 2 titles for the last ten years at underage. Not just winning, but humiliating the opposition. Eg. Your u20 football team last season was excellent, yous should have won the A championship, unfortunately for yous you had 2 red cards in the first 30 mins of the semi, still only lost by a couple of points. This was a team who played div2 and won the who,e way up through Sw. Perhaps if you had actually entered them in div 1 those lads would have learned a bit of discipline when they were actually put under pressure and Tir na Nog would have an A county title
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 22, 2022, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.

Conveyer belt in fine BS, but has to be end product. Serious questions need asked at senior level at Musgrave Park. Too much talent being wasted or not even given a chance.
What talent Bs? name one player other than James Loughrey produced that was top class. It's a numbers game at u12-16 they do well at these ages yes. Their senior team hasn't made any headway in last 15 years. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 22, 2022, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.

Conveyer belt in fine BS, but has to be end product. Serious questions need asked at senior level at Musgrave Park. Too much talent being wasted or not even given a chance.

Would mostly agree EOC, huge numbers at juvenile. But having watched the senior set up at last number of years I get the impression there is no long term plan. Tried to be bully boys for the first few league games, lol, don't have the personnel for that, so where to now?
What talent Bs? name one player other than James Loughrey produced that was top class. It's a numbers game at u12-16 they do well at these ages yes. Their senior team hasn't made any headway in last 15 years. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2022, 10:20:04 AM
There shouldn't be big panic at St Brigid's when you bring so many through you can only play 15 it's trying to keep 10 other people happy and competing for places....

They just need (as said above) to find the right tactics/manager/luck/approach

How do you do that? Cargin have used the league as a great place to blood players the last few years, having county players means you've also no choice to bring those lads on, it's been a win win for them

Creggan also had to do it this year for various reasons, it's worked well for them.

Big panels, rotation, a happy camp.. playing your best team every week isn't always a good thing, working the same game plan is
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2022, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 22, 2022, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 22, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
what fo the Gaelfast team do during summer months? dont say Cul Camps lads cos they wre there before Gaelfast
would be good to see them out doing something new

Last I heard they were out about bonfires helping to build them. Bit of cross community
tut tut . Discussion board is for Discussion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 23, 2022, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 23, 2022, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 22, 2022, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 22, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
what fo the Gaelfast team do during summer months? dont say Cul Camps lads cos they wre there before Gaelfast
would be good to see them out doing something new

Last I heard they were out about bonfires helping to build them. Bit of cross community
tut tut . Discussion board is for Discussion

Yeah but not that same nonsense all over again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 25, 2022, 07:16:24 PM
Looking forward to the championship getting under way this weekend. My early predictions for the senior are:

QF stage
Cargin v LD
Creggan v Rossa
Aghagallon v moneyglass
PG1 v Whitehill

Semis
Cargin v Creggan
Aghagallon v PG1

Final
Cargin v PG1

Cargin winners.

No doubt that will be well off the mark but do fancy Cargin to win it this year.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on July 26, 2022, 09:43:34 AM
don't be surprised if ST john's LD or Rossa pip one of the big '2'. PG1 hard to look past going on league form for the other side imo. Hopefully be a shock or two on Sunday to keep it interesting !

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 26, 2022, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 22, 2022, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.

Conveyer belt in fine BS, but has to be end product. Serious questions need asked at senior level at Musgrave Park. Too much talent being wasted or not even given a chance.

Would mostly agree EOC, huge numbers at juvenile. But having watched the senior set up at last number of years I get the impression there is no long term plan. Tried to be bully boys for the first few league games, lol, don't have the personnel for that, so where to now?
What talent Bs? name one player other than James Loughrey produced that was top class. It's a numbers game at u12-16 they do well at these ages yes. Their senior team hasn't made any headway in last 15 years. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Conveyer of talent within is great but without the basic ingredient of loyalty and in pursuit of honours for your club/parish such is lost....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 26, 2022, 02:00:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 26, 2022, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 22, 2022, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 22, 2022, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 22, 2022, 10:18:55 AM
On a serious note, St Brigid's look to be getting their act together at juvenile level. Strong at U13,  U15 and U17. Could be a conveyor belt that delivers St Brigid's into a top two or three club in the coming years if they can keep them.

Conveyer belt in fine BS, but has to be end product. Serious questions need asked at senior level at Musgrave Park. Too much talent being wasted or not even given a chance.

Would mostly agree EOC, huge numbers at juvenile. But having watched the senior set up at last number of years I get the impression there is no long term plan. Tried to be bully boys for the first few league games, lol, don't have the personnel for that, so where to now?
What talent Bs? name one player other than James Loughrey produced that was top class. It's a numbers game at u12-16 they do well at these ages yes. Their senior team hasn't made any headway in last 15 years. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Conveyer of talent within is great but without the basic ingredient of loyalty and in pursuit of honours for your club/parish such is lost....

Defections to water -,polo has had an impact, big sickener for sure !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 26, 2022, 10:20:28 PM
So Creggan pulled out of their final Div 2 hurling game against Carey and in doing so they handed the title to Carey, not much fair play shown to the chasing packs

Pulling out all stops to ensure lads are fit for the SFC. 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2022, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 26, 2022, 10:20:28 PM
So Creggan pulled out of their final Div 2 hurling game against Carey and in doing so they handed the title to Carey, not much fair play shown to the chasing packs

Pulling out all stops to ensure lads are fit for the SFC. 🤔

Did they play Tir na Og or was that handed to them also?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 26, 2022, 10:43:54 PM
Would the issue facing the Belfast clubs be player retention from 18 years onwards? I'd imagine growing up in Belfast theres a good chance you'd head to uni elsewhere? Down south or UK? Not like us culchies who are dying to get up to the big smoke!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 26, 2022, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2022, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 26, 2022, 10:20:28 PM
So Creggan pulled out of their final Div 2 hurling game against Carey and in doing so they handed the title to Carey, not much fair play shown to the chasing packs

Pulling out all stops to ensure lads are fit for the SFC. 🤔

Did they play Tir na Og or was that handed to them also?

Handed to them also I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2022, 11:34:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 26, 2022, 10:43:54 PM
Would the issue facing the Belfast clubs be player retention from 18 years onwards? I'd imagine growing up in Belfast theres a good chance you'd head to uni elsewhere? Down south or UK? Not like us culchies who are dying to get up to the big smoke!

We've 3 senior teams at football 2 at hurling... kids come and go most kids stay at home for college, the problem is you can only play 15 some lose interest or can't be bothered to fight for their place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 26, 2022, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 26, 2022, 10:43:54 PM
Would the issue facing the Belfast clubs be player retention from 18 years onwards? I'd imagine growing up in Belfast theres a good chance you'd head to uni elsewhere? Down south or UK? Not like us culchies who are dying to get up to the big smoke!
That would be a fair point !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 07:58:13 AM
Creggan ld Sunday could be a good one. Johnnies and st galls too.

I would have thought city players more likely to stay home for university.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 27, 2022, 08:10:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 26, 2022, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2022, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 26, 2022, 10:20:28 PM
So Creggan pulled out of their final Div 2 hurling game against Carey and in doing so they handed the title to Carey, not much fair play shown to the chasing packs

Pulling out all stops to ensure lads are fit for the SFC. 🤔

Did they play Tir na Og or was that handed to them also?

Handed to them also I believe.

Creggan,have been in a very generous mode recently making concessions to their neighbours.....Cargin in reserve league before those concessions in hurling.

Generosity indeed....but costly according to rule.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 27, 2022, 08:17:48 AM
Creggan seem to have a panel of 40 looking at their senior team getting the league trophy, so on one hand its surprising they are conceding reserve games. On the other hand the reserve league is a farce and conceding games in it is all too easy done, a good training session would be more beneficial.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 27, 2022, 08:44:15 AM
I hope all teams pulling out of games are fined accordingly, makes a farce of the whole thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2022, 09:36:45 AM
I see Dunloy conceded also in Div1 to Cushendall.

Poor form from all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 27, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
concerning that it is so easily done.   we always hear from the clubs about the issues with fixtures but seemingly it suits some to do as they please.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on July 27, 2022, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Spike on July 27, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
concerning that it is so easily done.   we always hear from the clubs about the issues with fixtures but seemingly it suits some to do as they please.

Would starting on - 6 points in the following years league be enough of a deterrent. Would put most teams bar the top handful in a tricky enough spot.
Reserve leagues will always be difficult to manage though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 27, 2022, 10:51:59 AM
Quote from: Flanker on July 27, 2022, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Spike on July 27, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
concerning that it is so easily done.   we always hear from the clubs about the issues with fixtures but seemingly it suits some to do as they please.

Would starting on - 6 points in the following years league be enough of a deterrent. Would put most teams bar the top handful in a tricky enough spot.
Reserve leagues will always be difficult to manage though

Yeah, need something like that.

Fine is no worries to a club.

Is it holidays or why are they conceding games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on July 27, 2022, 11:01:50 AM
Id prefer to see the previous structures in place in Antrim where there were 5 divisions made up of a combination of Club seniors, reserves and thirds teams.

Junior/ Intermediate teams were able to play against some of the top clubs reserves which kept healthy competition. If i were St.Comgalls, Pearses, Wolfetones etc.. id love a crack at Creggan, Johnnies, Cargin etc... oportunity to play on them grounds alone for them clubs are few and far between. The leagues were competitive and it mattered to Reserve team players in them leagues to go and win some meaningful silverware.

Even in DIv 1senior clubs reserves teams sometimes look they have pulled guys from the bar to field a team. Doesnt benefit anyone that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 12:36:30 PM
We play in the divisions with our senior teams, hurlers and footballers .. they should also be played in the junior championship also, a reserve cup is not something to aspire to.. If a second team wins it they can't enter the Ulster championship, which is fine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 04:32:16 PM
I would agree with this. Some reserve teams far too strong for others but in divisions would level themselves out. I've played in this setup a lot over the years as reserve was my ceiling and I always thought it was pretty good. Never understood why they moved away from it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

There were 20 teams playing last night... wouldn't say that's a failure, games shouldn't be conceded they should be rearranged..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

There were 20 teams playing last night... wouldn't say that's a failure, games shouldn't be conceded they should be rearranged..

Unfortunately you just run out of time to get fixtures rearranged.

We have had a rubbish summer with games for our u15s, where we had 3 games cancelled in July due to other teams not fielding.

I appreciate that it is that time of the year with holidays etc, but last night St Teresas to their credit travelled up to us with 13 players and their coaches said it was more important to get the lads a game rather than not bothering because they didn't have the full compliment of players.

Worst this summer was St Paul's, who were at home for our game at the end of June so that wasn't likely affected by holidays.

We travelled up there with 16 players to be told that none of them were there as they had all travelled to their Div 1 game in Aghagallon.

They didn't even have the decency to tell us they weren't going to be there before we travelled, the coaches weren't even there, it was their u11s hurling coach told us as they had the pitch booked for the time our game was to be on.

They never bothered to field for our home fixture either. Why have 2 teams if you don't want to give them all games just when you don't think the result is going to be favourable?

Is the point not about getting the weaker players games???

O'Donnells didn't field in either game against us either which was a pity as we'd never played them before at this age.

Lamh Dhearg didn't travel to us either although they at least tried to reschedule.

So you end up with too many games to be refixed as they all need played before championship.

Plus for every refix, you need a referee to reschedule and i am sure you know that doesn't always suit.

Looking at the Div  table, I do feel for those Cargin players, as with all of those games cancelled they have likely cost themselves a stab at the league win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

There were 20 teams playing last night... wouldn't say that's a failure, games shouldn't be conceded they should be rearranged..

Unfortunately you just run out of time to get fixtures rearranged.

We have had a rubbish summer with games for our u15s, where we had 3 games cancelled in July due to other teams not fielding.

I appreciate that it is that time of the year with holidays etc, but last night St Teresas to their credit travelled up to us with 13 players and their coaches said it was more important to get the lads a game rather than not bothering because they didn't have the full compliment of players.

Worst this summer was St Paul's, who were at home for our game at the end of June so that wasn't likely affected by holidays.

We travelled up there with 16 players to be told that none of them were there as they had all travelled to their Div 1 game in Aghagallon.

They didn't even have the decency to tell us they weren't going to be there before we travelled, the coaches weren't even there, it was their u11s hurling coach told us as they had the pitch booked for the time our game was to be on.

They never bothered to field for our home fixture either. Why have 2 teams if you don't want to give them all games just when you don't think the result is going to be favourable?

Is the point not about getting the weaker players games???

O'Donnells didn't field in either game against us either which was a pity as we'd never played them before at this age.

Lamh Dhearg didn't travel to us either although they at least tried to reschedule.

So you end up with too many games to be refixed as they all need played before championship.

Plus for every refix, you need a referee to reschedule and i am sure you know that doesn't always suit.

Looking at the Div  table, I do feel for those Cargin players, as with all of those games cancelled they have likely cost themselves a stab at the league win.

So lets get back to the regional boards and run them off separately or look at the timetabling, refuse teams putting in 2 teams...

The problem with the first one is you'll end up with mismatches all over the show and possibly less games, so not really too competitive, the second one is difficult in that when do you play these games?

If its a problem due to holidays then have a 4 week window in the summer that games are not played, get as many games played in after Easter and allow for a month for exams, come in after 1st week of August and run them through to the start of Championship..

The third one is simple, no second teams, if you have a big set up then arrange friendlies and enter tournaments or arrange tournaments to facilitate these lads..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

There were 20 teams playing last night... wouldn't say that's a failure, games shouldn't be conceded they should be rearranged..

Unfortunately you just run out of time to get fixtures rearranged.

We have had a rubbish summer with games for our u15s, where we had 3 games cancelled in July due to other teams not fielding.

I appreciate that it is that time of the year with holidays etc, but last night St Teresas to their credit travelled up to us with 13 players and their coaches said it was more important to get the lads a game rather than not bothering because they didn't have the full compliment of players.

Worst this summer was St Paul's, who were at home for our game at the end of June so that wasn't likely affected by holidays.

We travelled up there with 16 players to be told that none of them were there as they had all travelled to their Div 1 game in Aghagallon.

They didn't even have the decency to tell us they weren't going to be there before we travelled, the coaches weren't even there, it was their u11s hurling coach told us as they had the pitch booked for the time our game was to be on.

They never bothered to field for our home fixture either. Why have 2 teams if you don't want to give them all games just when you don't think the result is going to be favourable?

Is the point not about getting the weaker players games???

O'Donnells didn't field in either game against us either which was a pity as we'd never played them before at this age.

Lamh Dhearg didn't travel to us either although they at least tried to reschedule.

So you end up with too many games to be refixed as they all need played before championship.

Plus for every refix, you need a referee to reschedule and i am sure you know that doesn't always suit.

Looking at the Div  table, I do feel for those Cargin players, as with all of those games cancelled they have likely cost themselves a stab at the league win.

So lets get back to the regional boards and run them off separately or look at the timetabling, refuse teams putting in 2 teams...

The problem with the first one is you'll end up with mismatches all over the show and possibly less games, so not really too competitive, the second one is difficult in that when do you play these games?

If its a problem due to holidays then have a 4 week window in the summer that games are not played, get as many games played in after Easter and allow for a month for exams, come in after 1st week of August and run them through to the start of Championship..

The third one is simple, no second teams, if you have a big set up then arrange friendlies and enter tournaments or arrange tournaments to facilitate these lads..

Yes i agree with a lot of that.

I would still be in favour of the all county, maybe i didn't make that clear before.

I think it is great for our lads to get up and play the Belfast teams, rather than just playing the same 4 or 5 teams all year.

ok i know some of the Belfast teams maybe don't see the same attraction in maybe having to travel to Rasharkin or Dunloy on a Thursday evening hence the number of no shows in away games, but they should still be going with the ethos that game time for the lads is the most important thing.

There is definitely a break needed in July, I am involved with lgfa and camogie and they stopped over July which made sense.

The 2nd teams one is a bit of an issue.

I want to see every young player get game time and without a 2nd team, some of these players will rarely ever get playing, which isn't fair.

I know some of the 2nd teams in Div 3....well one in particular and it is easy to see from the scores of their games over the season, field Div 1 players in some of their games, if the Div 1 team isn't playing that evening.

That shouldn't be allowed as it is only preventing their actual Div 3 players from getting game time.

So if you have two teams, the Div 1 players should be graded at the start of the year and then you know those 2nd team players have a fair crack at getting game time.

If the Div 1 team can't field for some reason then so be it. But i am sure a greater effort would be made to get a team out from their panel of graded players, if it wasn't just that they are doing it at the expense of the 2nd team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2022, 09:39:43 AM
Personally I thought the regional boards worked well. I honestly think with mid week games etc you shouldn't be asking kids, especially during school time, to do journeys which could result in maybe 2 hours of traveling in an evening. The closer games, geographically, work better.

Maybe you could do quarter finals or semi finals and shields and stuff across the county so as the two boards would "mingle" for a handful of games a year too.

I would agree with the July off thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 29, 2022, 09:39:43 AM
Personally I thought the regional boards worked well. I honestly think with mid week games etc you shouldn't be asking kids, especially during school time, to do journeys which could result in maybe 2 hours of traveling in an evening. The closer games, geographically, work better.

Maybe you could do quarter finals or semi finals and shields and stuff across the county so as the two boards would "mingle" for a handful of games a year too.

I would agree with the July off thing.

to be fair, the lgfa underage does that.

All sw games and then there are 2 all county blitzes during the year.

the evening games maybe don't affect us as much as we are central to everywhere, only aghagallon is one that we don't look forward to.

no offence to the aghagallon lads on here!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2022, 10:11:02 AM
Yeah I always remember Aghagallon being the long haul.

Yeah randalstown central so you're grand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 29, 2022, 10:11:02 AM
Yeah I always remember Aghagallon being the long haul.

Yeah randalstown central so you're grand.

Ballycastle have they juveniles playing in the leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 29, 2022, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

There were 20 teams playing last night... wouldn't say that's a failure, games shouldn't be conceded they should be rearranged..

Unfortunately you just run out of time to get fixtures rearranged.

We have had a rubbish summer with games for our u15s, where we had 3 games cancelled in July due to other teams not fielding.

I appreciate that it is that time of the year with holidays etc, but last night St Teresas to their credit travelled up to us with 13 players and their coaches said it was more important to get the lads a game rather than not bothering because they didn't have the full compliment of players.

Worst this summer was St Paul's, who were at home for our game at the end of June so that wasn't likely affected by holidays.

We travelled up there with 16 players to be told that none of them were there as they had all travelled to their Div 1 game in Aghagallon.

They didn't even have the decency to tell us they weren't going to be there before we travelled, the coaches weren't even there, it was their u11s hurling coach told us as they had the pitch booked for the time our game was to be on.

They never bothered to field for our home fixture either. Why have 2 teams if you don't want to give them all games just when you don't think the result is going to be favourable?

Is the point not about getting the weaker players games???

O'Donnells didn't field in either game against us either which was a pity as we'd never played them before at this age.

Lamh Dhearg didn't travel to us either although they at least tried to reschedule.

So you end up with too many games to be refixed as they all need played before championship.

Plus for every refix, you need a referee to reschedule and i am sure you know that doesn't always suit.

Looking at the Div  table, I do feel for those Cargin players, as with all of those games cancelled they have likely cost themselves a stab at the league win.


No sympathy for you, yous entered an u15 Div3 league when you should have been in div 2. A wee handy league title for the coaches. Teams are not fielding to you because they are fed up with this . Div three is a very weak league for clubs doing brilliantly to get a team out, Tir na nog should not be in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 29, 2022, 12:13:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 29, 2022, 10:11:02 AM
Yeah I always remember Aghagallon being the long haul.

Yeah randalstown central so you're grand.

How do you think we felt growing up having to travel from aghagallon every week! It would suited us much better to play in the North Armagh league until u16 level. We'd have to only travel 2/3 miles and have about 10 teams to play within that radius of Lurgan. Such a slog doing that every week! I actually think Armagh have went the same way as antrim though and have a division 1, 2 and 3 from u13 or u15 upwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on July 29, 2022, 12:36:02 PM
Lots of Pros and Cons about an All County League. from a quality standpoint it is undoubtedly better but the premier issue is usually logistics and trying to get 20 kids who cannot drive a vehicle, up and down the county numerous times over a season.  perhaps the best way is a compromise with an 'end of league' round robin in August.  The July break seems to work well.   Was the cancellation of numerous matches one of the reasons St Enda's shifted over to the South West?   

All kids need football and how best to accommodate that needs looked at.  no point in having two teams if the good players in Team 1 come and go as they please into the weaker team.  The win at all costs mentality is detrimental to player development.  Kids wont improve and are more likely to quit if they are not getting game time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 29, 2022, 12:58:34 PM
I would go back to South West and South Antrim leagues. There was definitely less games conceded in the past. An all county Championship in the last month of the season to finish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 01:17:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 29, 2022, 12:58:34 PM
I would go back to South West and South Antrim leagues. There was definitely less games conceded in the past. An all county Championship in the last month of the season to finish.

I agree.. ever since we went all county the Belfast teams have been poor at senior  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on July 29, 2022, 01:35:06 PM
I think it needs to go back to divisional boards.All county as far as I'm aware was to help the city teams get more games as there was to many games not fulfilled,but that has now crept into the all county leagues so in helping one problem it has created another where there wasn't one before.It can't be of benefit if everyone doesn't benefit .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 29, 2022, 11:04:56 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 29, 2022, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 07:43:04 AM
Cargin under-15s endured another 'failure to field' night .....all county juvenile competition is a failed enterprise IMO.....

There were 20 teams playing last night... wouldn't say that's a failure, games shouldn't be conceded they should be rearranged..

Unfortunately you just run out of time to get fixtures rearranged.

We have had a rubbish summer with games for our u15s, where we had 3 games cancelled in July due to other teams not fielding.

I appreciate that it is that time of the year with holidays etc, but last night St Teresas to their credit travelled up to us with 13 players and their coaches said it was more important to get the lads a game rather than not bothering because they didn't have the full compliment of players.

Worst this summer was St Paul's, who were at home for our game at the end of June so that wasn't likely affected by holidays.

We travelled up there with 16 players to be told that none of them were there as they had all travelled to their Div 1 game in Aghagallon.

They didn't even have the decency to tell us they weren't going to be there before we travelled, the coaches weren't even there, it was their u11s hurling coach told us as they had the pitch booked for the time our game was to be on.

They never bothered to field for our home fixture either. Why have 2 teams if you don't want to give them all games just when you don't think the result is going to be favourable?

Is the point not about getting the weaker players games???

O'Donnells didn't field in either game against us either which was a pity as we'd never played them before at this age.

Lamh Dhearg didn't travel to us either although they at least tried to reschedule.

So you end up with too many games to be refixed as they all need played before championship.

Plus for every refix, you need a referee to reschedule and i am sure you know that doesn't always suit.

Looking at the Div  table, I do feel for those Cargin players, as with all of those games cancelled they have likely cost themselves a stab at the league win.


No sympathy for you, yous entered an u15 Div3 league when you should have been in div 2. A wee handy league title for the coaches. Teams are not fielding to you because they are fed up with this . Div three is a very weak league for clubs doing brilliantly to get a team out, Tir na nog should not be in it.

I have explained this before but you seem to have a preconception, so it seems there is no talking to you as you don't listen.

Is your club in div 3? Just curious if you actually know what you are on about or not. You don't seem to want to say who your club is so hard to tell what the agenda is.

St Pauls B team and O'Donnells are the only ones to have not fielded in either game and by all accounts talking to other managers, O'Ds destroyed everyone last year in Div 3.

So they are maybe like us in that they are strong one year and weak the next.

We have had games this year where we have just about had enough to field but we always do.

The only difference between us and those "doing brilliantly to get a team out" is that when we have low numbers available we still have a strong spine of a team for div 3.

If we had put our team out from last night against a div 2 team we'd have been hammered as there were 4 lads in the 16 who only started playing football in the last 18 months.

I didn't have any input into what league we were put in but i know that when the coach was asked about it, the option of being either Div 2 or Div 3 was submitted by the club and it was likely a toss up between us and Rossa to keep the numbers even and they put Rossa in Div 2 and us in 3.

It was the same in feile when the county(gaelfast possibly) put us in div 4 of that without asking us, when if asked we would have went to div 3.

But it was based on previous years in which we were weaker.

Next year if we are in Div 2 we would struggle, like last year when we lost every game at u15 and the u13s won i think 3 games all year and it will be those same teams at u15 and u17.

But sure you knew that seeing as you are an expert on tnn league placings every year.

And f**k all about a handy league title. You really think coaches care about winning div 3??. It is all about the players and them progressing so that's a daft thing to say.

The only one worth winning is Div 1 and we aren't there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 29, 2022, 05:00:40 PM
Cannot recall many failure to fields in the S West Juvenile comps...the answer always was when a plea to postponement was received the curt reply when John O'Boyle was league secretary.....'either play or pack'....i e field or concede.....few conessions..
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 08:49:57 PM
Can't remember anyone mentioning SW teams failing to field when it was divisional, but cool story
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 29, 2022, 10:18:41 PM
I also remember being at convention on year and hearing that 3 outta 16 fixtures were completed at South Antrim Un16 level. Also the reason why St Endas wanted out of the South Antrim juvenile leagues was lack of game time and development.

We could go round in circles all year on this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 29, 2022, 10:18:41 PM
I also remember being at convention on year and hearing that 3 outta 16 fixtures were completed at South Antrim Un16 level. Also the reason why St Endas wanted out of the South Antrim juvenile leagues was lack of game time and development.

We could go round in circles all year on this.

Yeah I'm surprised with how successful SW is they only have 2 winners on about 40 odd years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 30, 2022, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 29, 2022, 10:50:03 PM
Ní neart go cur le chéile.

Been about a long time.....a unified Antrim?

A pipe dream.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 30, 2022, 10:25:11 AM
SFC predictions round 1
Creggan v
Lamh Dhearg-home win by 6/7
St John's v St Galls-home win by 1
Moneyglass v ahoghill-draw
Casements v N Brid-home by 10+
St Mary's v Gort na Mon-away win by 2
Cargin v St Endas-home win by 1

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2022, 01:29:19 PM

SFC predictions round 1
Creggan v
Lamh Dhearg-home win by 4
St John's v St Galls-home win by 3
Moneyglass v ahoghill-away by 2
Casements v N Brid-home by 5
St Mary's v Gort na Mon- home by 6
Cargin v St Endas-home win by 8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 30, 2022, 05:48:04 PM
Lar you're good craic to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2022, 08:25:05 PM
Glenavy beating ballymena in ballymena would be very unexpected. Other intermediate games seemed to go mainly as expected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 30, 2022, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2022, 08:25:05 PM
Glenavy beating ballymena in ballymena would be very unexpected. Other intermediate games seemed to go mainly as expected.

A surprise surely. Also expected dunloy to beat sarsfields too. By the looks of things Dunloy had 7 or 8 9f their hurlers playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 30, 2022, 11:17:41 PM
Championship is here, hopefully some great games ahead and a championship that's good for the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 31, 2022, 10:12:18 AM
Championship day is here
Johnny's to win outright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 31, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2022, 08:25:05 PM
Glenavy beating ballymena in ballymena would be very unexpected. Other intermediate games seemed to go mainly as expected.

Would've thought sars beating Dunloy was a surprise  ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2022, 10:39:54 AM
Yeah probably is. I think they're both the same -much better with the hurlers. McKenna seems to make a big difference for sarsfields and I suspect McKernan handy.I didn't see too many hurlers on for dunloy - I think I counted 3?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2022, 12:43:16 PM
First obvious sign of the quality coming through in Portglenone (previously highlighted) was evidenced yesterday by a resounding win in the final of All County Og Sport.

Is this the the start of the run??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 01:30:10 PM
If one good underage team means it's the start of a run then yes it's the start of a run.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2022, 02:48:44 PM
Which would be fair enough EOC except I confidently predict yesterday's Og Sport title is just the first product off an excellent conveyor belt under development here.

One year wondergroup lol. Time will tell.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 02:58:14 PM
Thought the ladies were unlucky today, would need to get the head set for the replay
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 02:48:44 PM
Which would be fair enough EOC except I confidently predict yesterday's Og Sport title is just the first product off an excellent conveyor belt under development here.

One year wondergroup lol. Time will tell.....
You have an immense u13 group which everyone in the club should be proud of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2022, 03:56:20 PM
Vast majority still underage next year too!

Not my job to bum them up, they're only kids...but there is definitely a core group coming through that will write a new script for PG1 regardless of what our current seniors do or don't do. I'm absolutely certain of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2022, 04:36:07 PM
Heard there was a Conchur Johnston show on today in Glenravel.....4-05 solo contribution!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 03:56:20 PM
Vast majority still underage next year too!

Not my job to bum them up, they're only kids...but there is definitely a core group coming through that will write a new script for PG1 regardless of what our current seniors do or don't do. I'm absolutely certain of that.
I highly doubt if the mentors of that young u12/13 team would want you to be on here talking them up like that. Some pressure on one team that, I'd just let them progress and see where it goes.
Yes Conhuir is a clinker, if we can pull off a minor championship this year that will be 3 in 4 years for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 05:08:56 PM
Winnings a bonus, being at the level and competing is the main thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2022, 05:20:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 02:58:14 PM
Thought the ladies were unlucky today, would need to get the head set for the replay

Better team. Penalty never a penalty. Efficiency up front looks a problem. That Fermanagh number 11 was some operator and the player that kept them in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2022, 05:23:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 02:58:14 PM
Thought the ladies were unlucky today, would need to get the head set for the replay

Kicked savage wides. Far better side for long spells I thought
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 31, 2022, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 02:48:44 PM
Which would be fair enough EOC except I confidently predict yesterday's Og Sport title is just the first product off an excellent conveyor belt under development here.

One year wondergroup lol. Time will tell.....

What other strong underage groups have PG1 Bannside?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2022, 07:50:16 PM
So it's...

Moneyglass win
Creggan led draw
Johnnies by 12 :o
Cargin by5 I think?
Aghagallon were 10 up in second half
Portglenone by 4 or 5

Moneyglass and Creggan draw I guess are the surprises. Creggan needed a late score to level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 08:42:44 PM
Cargin v St Enda's a good game, St Enda's put it up to us. Some intensity shown by them. Most results as predicted, I'd heard Lamh Dhearg were confident of getting something up in Creggan and I must say I doubted it but fair play to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 31, 2022, 09:39:56 PM
St Endas were very good
Well organised team, we played in spells and it was enough
A win is a win in championship
Creggan group now very interesting after that draw and the johnnies with a big win. Moneyglass with a decent win also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 09:56:24 PM
Was there a post removed about Cargin if they win minor it would be 4 out of last five ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 10:09:09 PM
Not that I seen, you maybe dreamt it. Obsessed with Cargin much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on July 31, 2022, 10:53:09 PM
Watched Creggan v LD game tonight. Have to say the level of officiating in Antrim is comical. Alot of refs with egos and a terrible understanding of the rules. I know it's a hard job and not many do it but some of these clowns would be better not doing it for the sake of the game. I seen players stop and call frees tonight and then the ref blowing,seen clear points given as wides. Ref in best position at times to call them and didn't. Cards not given to men who had already been booked,maybe because they were county players or big names , I dont know. Seems unfair on teams training all year and to be greeted with that level of officiating. Was like watching a game and you ask one of the teams playing to ref it for you. Senior championship with junior B officials. That's being kind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 31, 2022, 10:09:09 PM
Not that I seen, you maybe dreamt it. Obsessed with Cargin much?

I was going to say that's impressive but yeah obsessed...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on July 31, 2022, 10:53:09 PM
Watched Creggan v LD game tonight. Have to say the level of officiating in Antrim is comical. Alot of refs with egos and a terrible understanding of the rules. I know it's a hard job and not many do it but some of these clowns would be better not doing it for the sake of the game. I seen players stop and call frees tonight and then the ref blowing,seen clear points given as wides. Ref in best position at times to call them and didn't. Cards not given to men who had already been booked,maybe because they were county players or big names , I dont know. Seems unfair on teams training all year and to be greeted with that level of officiating. Was like watching a game and you ask one of the teams playing to ref it for you. Senior championship with junior B officials. That's being kind.

It's available for anyone to apply, hopefully we'll see you soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 31, 2022, 11:05:20 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on July 31, 2022, 10:53:09 PM
Watched Creggan v LD game tonight. Have to say the level of officiating in Antrim is comical. Alot of refs with egos and a terrible understanding of the rules. I know it's a hard job and not many do it but some of these clowns would be better not doing it for the sake of the game. I seen players stop and call frees tonight and then the ref blowing,seen clear points given as wides. Ref in best position at times to call them and didn't. Cards not given to men who had already been booked,maybe because they were county players or big names , I dont know. Seems unfair on teams training all year and to be greeted with that level of officiating. Was like watching a game and you ask one of the teams playing to ref it for you. Senior championship with junior B officials. That's being kind.

Was it green and gold or red and white tinted glasses you watched through? Finish that pint and get home for work in the morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on July 31, 2022, 11:12:30 PM
Think that's part of the problem. Any clown can apply.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on July 31, 2022, 11:21:13 PM
I wasn't at the Creggan v Derg game but spoke to a few that did attend,I believe Creggan made alot more mistakes than the ref did,and lucky for Creggan LD didn't bring there shooting boots as they missed a bag full.
No PC either ,bad day at the office or is the burden of being champions to heavy.
Time will tell😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on July 31, 2022, 11:12:30 PM
Think that's part of the problem. Any clown can apply.

Again like I said you can apply and show everyone how it's done, seeing as it's easy and any clown can do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 31, 2022, 11:44:06 PM
St Brigids brought their A game, but it wasn't enough to see off a decent, workmanlike PG1 performance. On to the next event from our perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on July 31, 2022, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on July 31, 2022, 11:21:13 PM
I wasn't at the Creggan v Derg game but spoke to a few that did attend,I believe Creggan made alot more mistakes than the ref did,and lucky for Creggan LD didn't bring there shooting boots as they missed a bag full.
No PC either ,bad day at the office or is the burden of being champions to heavy.
Time will tell😉

Not blaming the comical officiating on Creggans below par performance. Just stating how bad it was. What colour of glasses where they wearing, Think creggan wides were in double figures so likewise had they brought there shooting boots could have been a differnt game,🙄. Plenty of games left yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on August 01, 2022, 12:03:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 11:44:06 PM
St Brigids brought their A game, but it wasn't enough to see off a decent, workmanlike PG1 performance. On to the next event from our perspective

PG1 scores spread out or any individuals rack up a good tally bannside.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 01, 2022, 10:44:43 AM
There was an even spread of scores 123. St Brigids went two up with about 12 minutes left and it took a big finish from Casements with the last six scores to get over the line.

Looks like there were close games in Creggan Cargin and Moneyglass too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 01, 2022, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 29, 2022, 10:18:41 PM
I also remember being at convention on year and hearing that 3 outta 16 fixtures were completed at South Antrim Un16 level. Also the reason why St Endas wanted out of the South Antrim juvenile leagues was lack of game time and development.

We could go round in circles all year on this.

Yeah I'm surprised with how successful SW is they only have 2 winners on about 40 odd years

SW sides making the most of their vastly smaller rural populations, making every effort to improve their players, clubs, communities, playing facilities, and the non playing members experiences.  SOME City sides have went for the quick and easy route of relaying on huge population numbers and the transfers game for producing a nugget of gold, while ignoring the hard work needed from the ground up.  I say some, not all city sides.      We all realise if City sides got their act together then it could be toast for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 10:58:34 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2022, 10:44:43 AM
There was an even spread of scores 123. St Brigids went two up with about 12 minutes left and it took a big finish from Casements with the last six scores to get over the line.

Looks like there were close games in Creggan Cargin and Moneyglass too.

Ports started slow enough, plenty of possession just no end finish, 5 each at half time, St Brid's goal, well taken by the way, probably refocused Ports and they tacked over the scores, played in good tough spirit to be fair to both teams and management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 11:05:57 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 01, 2022, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 29, 2022, 10:18:41 PM
I also remember being at convention on year and hearing that 3 outta 16 fixtures were completed at South Antrim Un16 level. Also the reason why St Endas wanted out of the South Antrim juvenile leagues was lack of game time and development.

We could go round in circles all year on this.

Yeah I'm surprised with how successful SW is they only have 2 winners on about 40 odd years

SW sides making the most of their vastly smaller rural populations, making every effort to improve their players, clubs, communities, playing facilities, and the non playing members experiences.  SOME City sides have went for the quick and easy route of relaying on huge population numbers and the transfers game for producing a nugget of gold, while ignoring the hard work needed from the ground up.  I say some, not all city sides.      We all realise if City sides got their act together then it could be toast for the rest of us.

Transfers happen in the SW too ya know ;)

Yeah have to agree with you on facilities and huge improvements in the SW inn terms of coaching and progression through to senior teams, for us we still have huge numbers joining but holding their attention is becoming more and more difficult and they ain't ready to commit to what's required standard wise I feel.

As for the quick easy route, I'm not convinced on that tbf, I've said it many times, it comes in cycles for all clubs, when its good you've got to make hay when the sun shines, because it will dip and quality teams only come along every so often, if you don't siege those opportunities then they are missed.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 01, 2022, 11:22:46 AM
Quite a few in cargin camp had covid I'm hearing it probably accounts for a lack of energy yesterday
James Lav was a big miss also. hoping its not a season ending injury
A good weekend all round of championship action
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 01, 2022, 11:23:57 AM
Covid in last couple weeks not yesterday  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on August 01, 2022, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: 123Bigball on August 01, 2022, 12:03:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 11:44:06 PM
St Brigids brought their A game, but it wasn't enough to see off a decent, workmanlike PG1 performance. On to the next event from our perspective

PG1 scores spread out or any individuals rack up a good tally bannside.
Young McAleese came on and played well, he is one to watch being with the antrim set up too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 01, 2022, 02:42:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 02:48:44 PM
Which would be fair enough EOC except I confidently predict yesterday's Og Sport title is just the first product off an excellent conveyor belt under development here.

One year wondergroup lol. Time will tell.....

Perhaps.

Certainly from what I hear there is a mountain of work/commitment at underage there, maybe out at least 3 times a week, even at primary school level, with training and games?

If that is the case it would be expected that the kids would be on ahead of most clubs but it will be interesting to see if this works on through to senior level or if it is the sort of thing where there is a levelling off and others catch up.

Hard work coupled with natural ability and athleticism is generally what makes top players. The hard work is where there is most control over.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 01, 2022, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 29, 2022, 10:18:41 PM
I also remember being at convention on year and hearing that 3 outta 16 fixtures were completed at South Antrim Un16 level. Also the reason why St Endas wanted out of the South Antrim juvenile leagues was lack of game time and development.

We could go round in circles all year on this.

Yeah I'm surprised with how successful SW is they only have 2 winners on about 40 odd years

Why pick 40 years when we are concerned with the here and now with a view to future development?

Maybe because the last 10 yrs don't read as well?

There may be a multitude of valid reasons but Belfast teams are not harnessing the potential that comes with the weight of numbers on their doorstep. Sadly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 01, 2022, 04:44:02 PM
Head in the sand then?

GAA in Belfast city is nowhere near the level it could be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 01, 2022, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: Hectic on August 01, 2022, 02:42:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 31, 2022, 02:48:44 PM
Which would be fair enough EOC except I confidently predict yesterday's Og Sport title is just the first product off an excellent conveyor belt under development here.

One year wondergroup lol. Time will tell.....

Perhaps.

Certainly from what I hear there is a mountain of work/commitment at underage there, maybe out at least 3 times a week, even at primary school level, with training and games?

If that is the case it would be expected that the kids would be on ahead of most clubs but it will be interesting to see if this works on through to senior level or if it is the sort of thing where there is a levelling off and others catch up.

Hard work coupled with natural ability and athleticism is generally what makes top players. The hard work is where there is most control over.

Had a look at the PG1 feile team on Saturday and indeed they are an excellent young team.
But they are children playing against children and to expect them to progress to a super adult side is a huge leap of faith.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on August 01, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Well that is not the position I would take.

Many SW clubs are doing well in terms of participation rates and on a pound for pound basis. And again we all know of the benefits of community, schooling together etc.

But the sheer number of potential recruits in Belfast, if harnessed, would not only see Belfast clubs dominating Antrim but also Ulster and probably be regularly in the All Ireland mix.  And with that we would probably have a much stronger county team and strong MacRory colleges.

But maybe the obstacles are just too great?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 01, 2022, 06:59:44 PM
Its about putting building blocks in place and it all starts with juvenile development at the club. That's the base from which it all stems. The club's who invest properly in their juvenile structure will deservedly reap the rewards coming down the tracks. And that flows into schools, county development squads etc. Not rocket science!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 07:17:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 01, 2022, 06:59:44 PM
Its about putting building blocks in place and it all starts with juvenile development at the club. That's the base from which it all stems. The club's who invest properly in their juvenile structure will deservedly reap the rewards coming down the tracks. And that flows into schools, county development squads etc. Not rocket science!

Feck that... just go the quick route and win multiple Ulster titles and championships the way the Belfast clubs have done it!! Easy as
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 01, 2022, 08:09:55 PM
Noticed Fitzpatrick wasnt playing for St Johns yesterday. Injured or did Glenavon pull rank?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: geezer on August 01, 2022, 08:09:55 PM
Noticed Fitzpatrick wasnt playing for St Johns yesterday. Injured or did Glenavon pull rank?
Where you at it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 01, 2022, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: geezer on August 01, 2022, 08:09:55 PM
Noticed Fitzpatrick wasnt playing for St Johns yesterday. Injured or did Glenavon pull rank?
Where you at it?


Just going by saffron gael report.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 08:26:23 PM
Went to the Creggan game yesterday. Was impressed with LD and arguably they could have won. However, Creggan were denied 2 stone wall points in 2nd half which would have put the game to bed. Both at least a foot inside the post. I know the umpire got a lot of abuse but surely it was up to the ref to overrule. Very strange officiating. A good game for the neutral nonetheless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 08:26:23 PM
Went to the Creggan game yesterday. Was impressed with LD and arguably they could have won. However, Creggan were denied 2 stone wall points in 2nd half which would have put the game to bed. Both at least a foot inside the post. I know the umpire got a lot of abuse but surely it was up to the ref to overrule. Very strange officiating. A good game for the neutral nonetheless

Was Hawkeye not in play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 08:41:50 PM
Hawkeye would not have detected either in this instance. They were not close enough to inside of the post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 09:00:02 PM
He'd have overruled the umpire if he felt from his view it was over? No?

I'd a couple of calls that were questionable, the ball was that high with the evening sun strong it's not always as easy to get it right. Your placement could probably have been better

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
If Mickey says they were scores they must be. May get the county to change the scoreline and award the 2 points to creggan.

A man standing directly beside a post couldn't possibly be correct! Those 50, 80 or maybe 100 yards away in a crowd on a hill or especially those on the opposite sideline know better for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 09:21:36 PM
Not having a go at anyone in particular. I was a neutral so made it more enjoyable for me. Just stating what I seen. The 2 points were not even close to being wide. As bad as call as ive seen. May well have been the sun. I had a good angle as was standing on the bank
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
If Mickey says they were scores they must be. May get the county to change the scoreline and award the 2 points to creggan.

A man standing directly beside a post couldn't possibly be correct! Those 50, 80 or maybe 100 yards away in a crowd on a hill or especially those on the opposite sideline know better for sure.

Were u at the match? Were they points from where u stood?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
If Mickey says they were scores they must be. May get the county to change the scoreline and award the 2 points to creggan.

A man standing directly beside a post couldn't possibly be correct! Those 50, 80 or maybe 100 yards away in a crowd on a hill or especially those on the opposite sideline know better for sure.
Or an Irish News journalist up on a balcony, he must of had a better view than the guys at the posts and the ref directly behind
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
If Mickey says they were scores they must be. May get the county to change the scoreline and award the 2 points to creggan.

A man standing directly beside a post couldn't possibly be correct! Those 50, 80 or maybe 100 yards away in a crowd on a hill or especially those on the opposite sideline know better for sure.
Or an Irish News journalist up on a balcony, he must of had a better view than the guys at the posts and the ref directly behind

Were you at it also?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
If Mickey says they were scores they must be. May get the county to change the scoreline and award the 2 points to creggan.

A man standing directly beside a post couldn't possibly be correct! Those 50, 80 or maybe 100 yards away in a crowd on a hill or especially those on the opposite sideline know better for sure.
Or an Irish News journalist up on a balcony, he must of had a better view than the guys at the posts and the ref directly behind

Were you at it also?
No wasn't, how's that relevant. I bought an Irish News that's the height of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
If Mickey says they were scores they must be. May get the county to change the scoreline and award the 2 points to creggan.

A man standing directly beside a post couldn't possibly be correct! Those 50, 80 or maybe 100 yards away in a crowd on a hill or especially those on the opposite sideline know better for sure.
Or an Irish News journalist up on a balcony, he must of had a better view than the guys at the posts and the ref directly behind

Were you at it also?
No wasn't, how's that relevant. I bought an Irish News that's the height of it

So you read the view of someone that was at the game? They weren't on the pitch or umpires?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 01, 2022, 09:56:42 PM
I'm saying Crossan is a terrible journalist. He basically made fools of the officials in his reporting stating he could see from the balcony they looked like points. He also gave the Creggan manager room to state he was surprised by some decisions. My earlier post was sarcasm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 09:58:35 PM
Relax here a min lads. I went to a game as a neutral. I enjoyed the match and 2nd half in particular. I was stating that 2 clear points were not given for whatever reason. It was a major talking point from the game and thought it worthy of a mention. Im not personally blaming anyone. Anyone who was at the match seen that they were clear points. Granted, its very possible that the ref had bad view. I often also think that umpires have a bad view anyhow.

Happy to move on. LD will be dangerous opponents for anyone as the chsip progresses I feel 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2022, 10:18:52 PM
Crossan?  Christ! Stopped buying papers long time ago... no point in giving facts if controversy sells more!

Ref's do get it wrong at times. But linden said ref could have overruled his umpires, now the ref wasn't in better position, his umpires (plus linesmen) were all in the wrong position but the lad in balcony was in best position..... what are the odds...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 01, 2022, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 01, 2022, 09:58:35 PM
Relax here a min lads. I went to a game as a neutral. I enjoyed the match and 2nd half in particular. I was stating that 2 clear points were not given for whatever reason. It was a major talking point from the game and thought it worthy of a mention. Im not personally blaming anyone. Anyone who was at the match seen that they were clear points. Granted, its very possible that the ref had bad view. I often also think that umpires have a bad view anyhow.

Happy to move on. LD will be dangerous opponents for anyone as the chsip progresses I feel

So clear that the umpire thought them to be wide
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 01, 2022, 10:42:48 PM
Did the points get counted? No
Can the result be overturned? No
Is Crossan a Gobshite? Yes
If Creggan can spend £50k on managers surely they can install VAR.

Let's park it and move on.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 12:33:22 PM
No one mentioning Creggan management boxing with spectators, hush hush never happened sweep that under the carpet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 02, 2022, 12:37:12 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 12:33:22 PM
No one mentioning Creggan management boxing with spectators, hush hush never happened sweep that under the carpet

At the match on Sunday??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 12:50:24 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 12:33:22 PM
No one mentioning Creggan management boxing with spectators, hush hush never happened sweep that under the carpet

Have you read the ref report already? You must have some inside track with the county

Teams should be separated on the pitch (different sides) , minimum subs and officials on the sidelines, asking for trouble at times when its a tense game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 12:51:16 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 12:33:22 PM
No one mentioning Creggan management boxing with spectators, hush hush never happened sweep that under the carpet
Saw somebody getting a wallop on Official Antrim post.....up there for all to see....(just after the last score despatched by Ruairi Mc Cann)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:01:23 PM
No inside track MR2 but I have eyes, clear to see on social media after Mccanns last score
I'm sure it will be dealt by the powers that be never know miracles do happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:11:01 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:01:23 PM
No inside track MR2 but I have eyes, clear to see on social media after Mccanns last score
I'm sure it will be dealt by the powers that be never know miracles do happen

You're claiming it will be swept under the carpet as if it never happened, I thought that you had read a ref report and nothing was noted..

In fairness not all handbags is put in reports, not sure what ya put in for something like that, spectator and coach throwing fists between as fence..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Kevin Parke in charge at Creggan Sunday.......is he from St Enda's ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Kevin Parke in charge at Creggan Sunday.......is he from St Enda's ?

Something tells me you know the answer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron71 on August 04, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
When will the league playoffs be played does anyone know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on August 04, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
When will the league playoffs be played does anyone know?

As soon as they are out of championship? They'll be brave and fit for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 04, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on August 04, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
When will the league playoffs be played does anyone know?

They are planned to take place ,as a reasonable time space after clubs exit championship. ( prob 7 -10 days?)Div2/3 will probably be after IFC QF dates. Div 1/2 would likely be after SFC SF or IFC final , looking at teams involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2022, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Kevin Parke in charge at Creggan Sunday.......is he from St Enda's ?
is this all about st enads referee and creggan having st endas managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2022, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Kevin Parke in charge at Creggan Sunday.......is he from St Enda's ?
is this all about st enads referee and creggan having st endas managers?

No it seems someone wants to question the integrity of people, which is a bit cheap, not unexpected though either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 04, 2022, 03:08:49 PM
The St Enda's ref did not give the St Enda's manager too many favours if that is what people are suggesting

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2022, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Kevin Parke in charge at Creggan Sunday.......is he from St Enda's ?
is this all about st enads referee and creggan having st endas managers?

No it seems someone wants to question the integrity of people, which is a bit cheap, not unexpected though either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 04, 2022, 03:10:12 PM
I'm the same, i'm lost here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 04, 2022, 03:48:18 PM
As to the conspiracy behind the supposed shafting of a St Enda's ref and and a St Enda's man who manages Creggan?

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 04, 2022, 03:10:12 PM
I'm the same, i'm lost here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 04, 2022, 03:48:18 PM
As to the conspiracy behind the supposed shafting of a St Enda's ref and and a St Enda's man who manages Creggan?

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 04, 2022, 03:10:12 PM
I'm the same, i'm lost here

Someone brought it up while knowing what club he was from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2022, 04:10:55 PM
umpires have hard job wiht those shots that go higher than the posts and mistakes will happen that why croke has hawkeye
no story here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 05, 2022, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 04, 2022, 03:08:49 PM
The St Enda's ref did not give the St Enda's manager too many favours if that is what people are suggesting

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 04, 2022, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 02, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2022, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 02, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
I'm not sure but I'd imagine management throwing punches at spectators would not be allowed.

Or spectators throwing punches from the sideline
Kevin Parke in charge at Creggan Sunday.......is he from St Enda's ?
is this all about st enads referee and creggan having st endas managers?

No it seems someone wants to question the integrity of people, which is a bit cheap, not unexpected though either

Sorry, can someone elaborate on this? As i said, i thought it was very strange officiating so not surprised there is a back story of some sort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 05, 2022, 08:41:59 AM
One person trying to connect St Endas referee with St Endas men managing Creggan (Confusing I know). But as the alleged mistakes in officiating went against Creggan I cant see why it is being mentioned. That's my take on it anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 05, 2022, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 05, 2022, 08:41:59 AM
One person trying to connect St Endas referee with St Endas men managing Creggan (Confusing I know). But as the alleged mistakes in officiating went against Creggan I cant see why it is being mentioned. That's my take on it anyway.

Maybe the initial take was that because they know each other maybe there is a dislike rather than favouritism?

It isn't unheard of people from the same club to not get on.

And you know what referees are like......

Only speculating as it didn't really make sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 09:44:52 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 05, 2022, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 05, 2022, 08:41:59 AM
One person trying to connect St Endas referee with St Endas men managing Creggan (Confusing I know). But as the alleged mistakes in officiating went against Creggan I cant see why it is being mentioned. That's my take on it anyway.

Maybe the initial take was that because they know each other maybe there is a dislike rather than favouritism?

It isn't unheard of people from the same club to not get on.

And you know what referees are like......

Only speculating as it didn't really make sense.

Which it doesn't make sense?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 05, 2022, 09:47:20 AM
The officiating at the game didnt make sense. I wasnt aware of the back story though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 05, 2022, 09:47:20 AM
The officiating at the game didnt make sense. I wasnt aware of the back story though.

What back story? Seriously? 

This is Olympic standard stretching
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 05, 2022, 10:23:22 AM
Read above. Something to do with St Endas. I know nothing about it so not going to comment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 10:25:13 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on August 05, 2022, 10:23:22 AM
Read above. Something to do with St Endas. I know nothing about it so not going to comment

I've read it and there's nothing to know about it..

Then you said "The officiating at the game didnt make sense. I wasnt aware of the back story though" What back story?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 10:33:04 AM
Jeez lads, its like a conversation between Manuel and Basil in Faulty Towers now , move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 10:33:04 AM
Jeez lads, its like a conversation between Manuel and Basil in Faulty Towers now , move on

;D

I was thinking more like chuckle brothers.. moving on for now ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 12:48:09 PM
Saturday 11ths IFC matches moved to 1pm on the Saturday to facilitate  the LGFA final at 5PM in Armagh, cant see that suiting too many
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 05, 2022, 03:12:33 PM
Surely a switch to Friday night would have been better.................

Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 12:48:09 PM
Saturday 11ths IFC matches moved to 1pm on the Saturday to facilitate  the LGFA final at 5PM in Armagh, cant see that suiting too many
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 05, 2022, 03:12:33 PM
Surely a switch to Friday night would have been better.................

Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 12:48:09 PM
Saturday 11ths IFC matches moved to 1pm on the Saturday to facilitate  the LGFA final at 5PM in Armagh, cant see that suiting too many

If the clubs agree then perfect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 05, 2022, 03:12:33 PM
Surely a switch to Friday night would have been better.................

Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 05, 2022, 12:48:09 PM
Saturday 11ths IFC matches moved to 1pm on the Saturday to facilitate  the LGFA final at 5PM in Armagh, cant see that suiting too many
Think its left up to clubs now, yep, Friday night be perfect you would think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 06, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
My club not happy with this at all. We have at least 6 players now have to get off work. Why not just move the games to Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 08, 2022, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: ck on August 06, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
My club not happy with this at all. We have at least 6 players now have to get off work. Why not just move the games to Sunday?

Has your club spoken with the opposition to see about a mutual agreeable time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2022, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 08, 2022, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: ck on August 06, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
My club not happy with this at all. We have at least 6 players now have to get off work. Why not just move the games to Sunday?

Has your club spoken with the opposition to see about a mutual agreeable time?

If they are reading you are struggling they'll hardly want to move it ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 08, 2022, 10:41:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2022, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 08, 2022, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: ck on August 06, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
My club not happy with this at all. We have at least 6 players now have to get off work. Why not just move the games to Sunday?

Has your club spoken with the opposition to see about a mutual agreeable time?

If they are reading you are struggling they'll hardly want to move it ;)

They won't move it. We asked for Sunday - we'll have our full team but it's just not right on young players having to get off work for a 1pm throw in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2022, 04:35:49 PM
When does work start on casement?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2022, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 09, 2022, 04:35:49 PM
When does work start on casement?

Please refer all enquiries re Casement to Man on the moon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

Was it specifically for that or was it part of the West Belfast talkback show?  Never knew either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 11, 2022, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 10:13:06 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

Was it specifically for that or was it part of the West Belfast talkback show?  Never knew either

There was a specific talk re casement in the Wolf and Whistle Bar yesterday as part of the Feile held by Failte Feirste Thiar wth Guest speaker Peter Canavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 11, 2022, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

No certainty of start date, but its clear its not imminent. There was lots of talk about business case, engagement with Gov departments, and the potential of the stadium to regenerate West Belfast and the city. All very upbeat but while I was there (and I had to leave before it ended).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 11, 2022, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

No certainty of start date, but its clear its not imminent. There was lots of talk about business case, engagement with Gov departments, and the potential of the stadium to regenerate West Belfast and the city. All very upbeat but while I was there (and I had to leave before it ended).

Not even a ball park date? Christ this is soooooooo bad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 11, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 11, 2022, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

No certainty of start date, but its clear its not imminent. There was lots of talk about business case, engagement with Gov departments, and the potential of the stadium to regenerate West Belfast and the city. All very upbeat but while I was there (and I had to leave before it ended).

Not even a ball park date? Christ this is soooooooo bad

Current ring fenced funds aren't sufficient. Until the delta is addressed it's not happening.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 11, 2022, 11:49:12 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 11, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 11, 2022, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

No certainty of start date, but its clear its not imminent. There was lots of talk about business case, engagement with Gov departments, and the potential of the stadium to regenerate West Belfast and the city. All very upbeat but while I was there (and I had to leave before it ended).

Not even a ball park date? Christ this is soooooooo bad

Current ring fenced funds aren't sufficient. Until the delta is addressed it's not happening.
If no certainty of start sounds like a lot of waffle ! its like celebrating at half time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 11, 2022, 11:58:59 AM
i am hoping they are exploring all opportunities here though I appreciate we are not privy to the business case of the GAA but it is getting to that stage where something needs to be constructed on the site.     

Business case aside you would expect the ring fenced money to be able to provide something.  Are they exploring phased construction?  1 stand, 2 stand options with the closing in of the two ends at a later date as part of an overall 10 year plan?

How much would it cost to get the old Casement Park operational again with a new single stand down either side of the pitch with media & conferencing facilities, even just 1 stand down 1 side? 25 to 35mill?    £5 to 10mill just to get Casement Park operational again? 

The problem with a lot of this is that we don't know how much of the ring fenced money is going to be automatically hoovered up by consultants who require to be paid for their work to date.   

if someone has the business case presented by the GAA, can they post the link?        it would be nice to see Casement opened in some capacity which is not beyond us.  The shiny glowing new Casement Park appears in front of us like a mirage that we can never get near to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 12:43:09 PM
What work have they actually done to date these consultants? Some of them owe money due to the fact that they were shit...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 01:43:11 PM
Seems that they're ploughing ahead with it regardless.

Could be years before it's built unfortunately.

Are there any other green field sites in the greater west Belfast area with decent links to the motorway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 11, 2022, 01:49:04 PM
Moving on from the never ending Sh*tshow which is Casement, any predictions for the weekend?

Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 7
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 5
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 9
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 4
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Dunloy by 2


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 7
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 12:43:09 PM
What work have they actually done to date these consultants? Some of them owe money due to the fact that they were shit...
Also seems to be a Communication / PR Company always on the scene at anything Casement related, who pays for that? Too many people making a living out of the situation in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 11, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Spike on August 11, 2022, 11:58:59 AM
i am hoping they are exploring all opportunities here though I appreciate we are not privy to the business case of the GAA but it is getting to that stage where something needs to be constructed on the site.     

Business case aside you would expect the ring fenced money to be able to provide something.  Are they exploring phased construction?  1 stand, 2 stand options with the closing in of the two ends at a later date as part of an overall 10 year plan?

How much would it cost to get the old Casement Park operational again with a new single stand down either side of the pitch with media & conferencing facilities, even just 1 stand down 1 side? 25 to 35mill?    £5 to 10mill just to get Casement Park operational again? 

The problem with a lot of this is that we don't know how much of the ring fenced money is going to be automatically hoovered up by consultants who require to be paid for their work to date.   

if someone has the business case presented by the GAA, can they post the link?        it would be nice to see Casement opened in some capacity which is not beyond us.  The shiny glowing new Casement Park appears in front of us like a mirage that we can never get near to
Unfortunately, the only people to see any merit in getting Casement operational, in a guise other than big new shiny, are those in Antrim GAA clubs. Our say on this matter was surrendered a long time ago. And we can have no complaints as we allowed it to happen in front of our very eyes.
Unforgivable, made worse by the white elephant ego project that was then conceived.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 11, 2022, 04:58:17 PM
Perhaps the position is now as Ulster Gaels that we make a demand that we want whatever £77.5mill less expenses occurred to date, gets us now?  Even if it is two stands down either side of the pitch or a horseshoe stadium like croke park.     If we've signed the deeds away and slink away then we will be looking at this travesty for another generation at least
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 11, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Spike on August 11, 2022, 11:58:59 AM
i am hoping they are exploring all opportunities here though I appreciate we are not privy to the business case of the GAA but it is getting to that stage where something needs to be constructed on the site.     

Business case aside you would expect the ring fenced money to be able to provide something.  Are they exploring phased construction?  1 stand, 2 stand options with the closing in of the two ends at a later date as part of an overall 10 year plan?

How much would it cost to get the old Casement Park operational again with a new single stand down either side of the pitch with media & conferencing facilities, even just 1 stand down 1 side? 25 to 35mill?    £5 to 10mill just to get Casement Park operational again? 

The problem with a lot of this is that we don't know how much of the ring fenced money is going to be automatically hoovered up by consultants who require to be paid for their work to date.   

if someone has the business case presented by the GAA, can they post the link?        it would be nice to see Casement opened in some capacity which is not beyond us.  The shiny glowing new Casement Park appears in front of us like a mirage that we can never get near to
Unfortunately, the only people to see any merit in getting Casement operational, in a guise other than big new shiny, are those in Antrim GAA clubs. Our say on this matter was surrendered a long time ago. And we can have no complaints as we allowed it to happen in front of our very eyes.
Unforgivable, made worse by the white elephant ego project that was then conceived.

In fairness, I didn't hear too many complain when it was first announced.

Problem started with the decision to close it off for games and left to rot before and plans got made etc.

After that, it was one balls up after another and turned into a farce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2022, 07:09:34 PM
Giving it away was a major faux pas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 11, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Spike on August 11, 2022, 11:58:59 AM
i am hoping they are exploring all opportunities here though I appreciate we are not privy to the business case of the GAA but it is getting to that stage where something needs to be constructed on the site.     

Business case aside you would expect the ring fenced money to be able to provide something.  Are they exploring phased construction?  1 stand, 2 stand options with the closing in of the two ends at a later date as part of an overall 10 year plan?

How much would it cost to get the old Casement Park operational again with a new single stand down either side of the pitch with media & conferencing facilities, even just 1 stand down 1 side? 25 to 35mill?    £5 to 10mill just to get Casement Park operational again? 

The problem with a lot of this is that we don't know how much of the ring fenced money is going to be automatically hoovered up by consultants who require to be paid for their work to date.   

if someone has the business case presented by the GAA, can they post the link?        it would be nice to see Casement opened in some capacity which is not beyond us.  The shiny glowing new Casement Park appears in front of us like a mirage that we can never get near to
Unfortunately, the only people to see any merit in getting Casement operational, in a guise other than big new shiny, are those in Antrim GAA clubs. Our say on this matter was surrendered a long time ago. And we can have no complaints as we allowed it to happen in front of our very eyes.
Unforgivable, made worse by the white elephant ego project that was then conceived.

In fairness, I didn't hear too many complain when it was first announced.

Problem started with the decision to close it off for games and left to rot before and plans got made etc.

After that, it was one balls up after another and turned into a farce.
With absolutely zero accountability for anyone involved, including Antrim officials - just a lot of spoofing and press releases by politicians and Ulster GAA, while a whole generation of kids have missed out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 11, 2022, 10:00:55 PM
It's time for casement to be handed back to Antrim to sort out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 11, 2022, 10:00:55 PM
It's time for casement to be handed back to Antrim to sort out
I know it's not simple, but this is now a solution that needs proper debate.  Clean the place up and go again ourselves.  Cut the losses. There's very easily another decade behind closed doors otherwise. If you'd rather believe the press releases and spoofing politicians then each to their own. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2022, 10:42:34 PM
I wouldn't have been impressed with the ulster Gaa heads on this in particular. More interested in self promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 11, 2022, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 11, 2022, 01:49:04 PM
Moving on from the never ending Sh*tshow which is Casement, any predictions for the weekend?

Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 7
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 5
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 9
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 4
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Dunloy by 2


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 7
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 8

Have you ever been to a Portglenone v Ahoghill game? Ports by 8 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2022, 07:57:28 AM


Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 4
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 6
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 2
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 7
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Draw


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 2
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Brigids by 3
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- st endas by 2
LD v St Johns- johnnies by 2
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 2


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 12, 2022, 08:13:52 AM

St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 5
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Brigids by 2
Gorts v TNN- draw
St Enda's v Rossa- rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- LD by 4
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 12, 2022, 09:31:51 AM
St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 9
St. Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
GNMv TNN- TNN by 6
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 12, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 11, 2022, 10:00:55 PM
It's time for casement to be handed back to Antrim to sort out
I know it's not simple, but this is now a solution that needs proper debate.  Clean the place up and go again ourselves.  Cut the losses. There's very easily another decade behind closed doors otherwise. If you'd rather believe the press releases and spoofing politicians then each to their own.

i would 2nd that.  Give Ulster a time limit of 3 - 6 months and if no action then start the process.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on August 12, 2022, 10:34:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 12, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 11, 2022, 10:00:55 PM
It's time for casement to be handed back to Antrim to sort out
I know it's not simple, but this is now a solution that needs proper debate.  Clean the place up and go again ourselves.  Cut the losses. There's very easily another decade behind closed doors otherwise. If you'd rather believe the press releases and spoofing politicians then each to their own.

i would 2nd that.  Give Ulster a time limit of 3 - 6 months and if no action then start the process.

what process?

Centralised contracts for the fulltime staff means this is a non runner.

Frankie Quinn works for Ulster GAA, not Antrim GAA.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on August 12, 2022, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 12, 2022, 10:34:20 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 12, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 11, 2022, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 11, 2022, 10:00:55 PM
It's time for casement to be handed back to Antrim to sort out
I know it's not simple, but this is now a solution that needs proper debate.  Clean the place up and go again ourselves.  Cut the losses. There's very easily another decade behind closed doors otherwise. If you'd rather believe the press releases and spoofing politicians then each to their own.

i would 2nd that.  Give Ulster a time limit of 3 - 6 months and if no action then start the process.

what process?

Centralised contracts for the fulltime staff means this is a non runner.

Frankie Quinn works for Ulster GAA, not Antrim GAA.

the process of taking it back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 12, 2022, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 11, 2022, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 11, 2022, 01:49:04 PM
Moving on from the never ending Sh*tshow which is Casement, any predictions for the weekend?

Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 7
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 5
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 9
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 4
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Dunloy by 2


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 7
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 8

Have you ever been to a Portglenone v Ahoghill game? Ports by 8 🤦‍♂️

That was my thought as well!

Ahoghill might not win but they'll not let PG1 get that much of a lead on them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 12, 2022, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 12, 2022, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 11, 2022, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 11, 2022, 01:49:04 PM
Moving on from the never ending Sh*tshow which is Casement, any predictions for the weekend?

Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 7
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 5
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 9
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 4
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Dunloy by 2


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 7
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 8

Have you ever been to a Portglenone v Ahoghill game? Ports by 8 🤦‍♂️

That was my thought as well!

Ahoghill might not win but they'll not let PG1 get that much of a lead on them.

If they can't put them away by 7/8 they haven't chance against Creggan or Cargin. That result would demonstrate genuine progress. A 2/3 pts win is the same as the past few seasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 12, 2022, 12:13:37 PM


Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 3
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 3
Rasharkin v Glenravel- draw
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 1
Dunloy v Ardoyne- dunloy by 4


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 6
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Moneyglass by 2
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 2
St Enda's v Rossa- st endas by 4
LD v St Johns- LD by 3
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 12, 2022, 03:01:06 PM
My view is that PG1 have to make a statement in this game and this is one JMK would have been targeting for quite sometime now, if they do not win this relatively comfortably they have not moved forward much


Moving on from the never ending Sh*tshow which is Casement, any predictions for the weekend?

Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 7
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 5
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 9
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 4
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Dunloy by 2


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 7
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 8

Have you ever been to a Portglenone v Ahoghill game? Ports by 8 🤦‍♂️
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That was my thought as well!

Ahoghill might not win but they'll not let PG1 get that much of a lead on them.
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If they can't put them away by 7/8 they haven't chance against Creggan or Cargin. That result would demonstrate genuine progress. A 2/3 pts win is the same as the past few seasons
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 13, 2022, 08:52:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 12, 2022, 03:01:06 PM
My view is that PG1 have to make a statement in this game and this is one JMK would have been targeting for quite sometime now, if they do not win this relatively comfortably they have not moved forward much


Moving on from the never ending Sh*tshow which is Casement, any predictions for the weekend?

Lisburn v Sarsfields- Sarsfields by 7
Glenavy v Antrim- Glenavy by 5
Rasharkin v Glenravel- Glenravel by 9
Teresa's v St Pauls- St Pauls by 4
Dunloy v Ardoyne- Dunloy by 2


St Galls v Creggan- Creggan by 7
Brigid's v Moneyglass- Draw
Gorts v TNN- TNN by 3
St Enda's v Rossa- Rossa by 2
LD v St Johns- Draw
Ahoghill v PG1- PG1 by 8

Have you ever been to a Portglenone v Ahoghill game? Ports by 8 🤦‍♂️
[/quote]

That was my thought as well!

Ahoghill might not win but they'll not let PG1 get that much of a lead on them.
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If they can't put them away by 7/8 they haven't chance against Creggan or Cargin. That result would demonstrate genuine progress. A 2/3 pts win is the same as the past few seasons
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Ahoghill v Casement's is always a close hard fought affair and will be close..
Any winning margin which may  be enjoyed by the Ports will be celebrated....not certain.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 13, 2022, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 11, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2022, 11:15:48 AM


Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 11, 2022, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 11, 2022, 10:07:23 AM
I didn't realise there was event with information on the new Casement Park at the Feile or I would of went. Was there any sort of outline given for a start date?

No certainty of start date, but its clear its not imminent. There was lots of talk about business case, engagement with Gov departments, and the potential of the stadium to regenerate West Belfast and the city. All very upbeat but while I was there (and I had to leave before it ended).

Not even a ball park date? Christ this is soooooooo bad

Current ring fenced funds aren't sufficient. Until the delta is addressed it's not happening.
Yet the Antrim County Board persist with the line that the money will be found via the Stormont pool of money which is returned to the Finance Minister every year.
The same county board who let Casement fall into a state of disrepair without one penny of funding in place.
The same county board who now have signed Casement over to the Ulster Council after insisting that would never happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 13, 2022, 06:38:08 PM
Great performance from the ladies. Well done to all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2022, 06:48:37 PM
Yes some energy in that heat!!!

It's been a cracking year for Antrim in finals this year ...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 14, 2022, 11:16:26 AM
Great to see Gaelfast doing some great work brining kids down to croke park to play on it . My grandson blown away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 14, 2022, 11:25:51 AM
Nothing to do with Gaelfast. Every county invited to take part over a few days. Clubs applied and were picked at random apparently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2022, 11:47:00 AM
This has been going on for years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 14, 2022, 03:01:07 PM
Oh right . Article I read was Gaelfast organising   Anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 14, 2022, 03:03:27 PM
They will try to put their name to anything that is successful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2022, 07:26:23 PM
Intermediate games mostly as expected bar st teresas beating St. Pauls and the scale of the Dunloy win.

Senior mostly as expected thus far. Looks like ld will win.

Well done to the ladies. Fantastic win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 14, 2022, 07:53:19 PM
Dunloy a different side with Cunning and Molloy playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 14, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
So results today would suggest PG1 and Cargin are through to next phase of SFC..
Creggan require a win at Corrigan in the next round if the Lamhs win at Milltown ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 14, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 14, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
So results today would suggest PG1 and Cargin are through to next phase of SFC..
Creggan require a win at Corrigan in the next round if the Lamhs win at Milltown ?

A point is enough for Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2022, 08:43:00 PM
What was the score in portglenone game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 14, 2022, 08:58:02 PM
Think it was 0-14 to O -11.

Ahoghill came from four down to draw level with ten to go but Casements showed a bit of character to kick on despite hitting the crossbar and missing a last minute penalty. Typical local derby, was never going to be pretty. Job done from a PG1 perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 15, 2022, 09:03:05 AM
Not a great result though BS considering Moneyglass beat Ahoghill quite easily in the 1st round of games. Lamh Dhearg seem to be playing well, their confidence will now be high. Crunch game coming up at Corrigan in a couple of weeks winner takes all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 15, 2022, 09:47:34 AM
Corrigan is no easy place to go during Championship and Creggan will be feeling the pressure!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 15, 2022, 09:48:08 AM
It is hard to imagine St Johns will be terrified of Creggan going by what I have heard from their game again St Gall's yesterday, lacking bite going forward and seem to lack a plan on how to break down a team which sits deep on them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 15, 2022, 09:03:05 AM
Not a great result though BS considering Moneyglass beat Ahoghill quite easily in the 1st round of games. Lamh Dhearg seem to be playing well, their confidence will now be high. Crunch game coming up at Corrigan in a couple of weeks winner takes all.

At this stage, a win's a win.

I'm sure a manager, or team, wouldn't want to be winning group games by 15 or 20 pts.

Need to be winning games by 3 or 4 pts and improving the performance in each game.

That way, they have things to work on without being undercooked before knock-out proper games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 15, 2022, 11:10:02 AM
We see it as a great result EOC, saw those games lost in the past. Sign of obvious progress, feeling around here amongst vast majority is we would have lost that this time last year. If its good enough later in the year will tell its own tale.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 15, 2022, 11:20:35 AM
Fair point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 15, 2022, 11:45:06 AM
Lamh Dearg were very impressive yesterday. Dark horse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 15, 2022, 11:53:05 AM
They've been a top 4 teams for the last number of years along with having have 4 or 5 county men. Hardly a surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 15, 2022, 12:21:28 PM
LD should be there or thereabouts every year with the panel they have so wouldnt be a surprise if they win it.

Ryan murray very impressive, deadly accurate. Not many forwards in the county, if any, better than him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 15, 2022, 12:23:09 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 15, 2022, 11:45:06 AM
Lamh Dearg were very impressive yesterday. Dark horse.

LD we very impressive in the last 15 mins i would say. Up to that st johns coped very well and had a good, structured game plan. Their legs started to go and Ryan murray, jordy, mervyn running at them in final quarter punched holes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 15, 2022, 12:44:11 PM
Either rossa or st endas will go out on points difference

Same could possibly happen to randalstown or gort

And say ahoghill managed to beat st brigids could have 3 teams on 2 points

Messy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 15, 2022, 02:09:27 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 15, 2022, 12:44:11 PM
Either rossa or st endas will go out on points difference

Same could possibly happen to randalstown or gort

And say ahoghill managed to beat st brigids could have 3 teams on 2 points

Messy

I certainly wouldn't put it past Ahoghill to get a result against St Brigids. THe Clooney men are always capable of big performances when they have their backs to the wall! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 15, 2022, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 15, 2022, 12:49:26 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 15, 2022, 12:23:09 PM





Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 15, 2022, 11:45:06 AM
Lamh Dearg were very impressive yesterday. Dark horse.



LD we very impressive in the last 15 mins i would say. Up to that st johns coped very well and had a good, structured game plan. Their legs started to go and Ryan murray, jordy, mervyn running at them in final quarter punched holes.
St Johns are no bad team. Creggan will have plenty to do to come away from Corrigan with a win.


Creggan will be too strong and organised they know how to win at this stage

Con mccann a huge loss if reports are true about his knee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 08:34:36 AM
I would imagine Ricky Johnston is a big loss too. I'd be very surprised were it not Cargin won it this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 08:48:00 AM
these group of 3 are a nonsense - are st endas or Rossa going to go thru with a draw and a loss and no wins?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 08:54:04 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 08:48:00 AM
these group of 3 are a nonsense - are st endas or Rossa going to go thru with a draw and a loss and no wins?

2 from the group go through, if Rossa win or draw or lose by 4 points they go through

If Rossa lose by 6 they are out, if they lose by 5 I'd imagine there will be a play off game to see who goes through
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 08:48:00 AM
these group of 3 are a nonsense - are st endas or Rossa going to go thru with a draw and a loss and no wins?

It's better than Derry where for some reason everyone goes through!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:51:23 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 08:48:00 AM
these group of 3 are a nonsense - are st endas or Rossa going to go thru with a draw and a loss and no wins?

It's better than Derry where for some reason everyone goes through!

How can everyone go through? How does that work?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 16, 2022, 09:56:36 AM
What is wrong with Ricky?

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 08:34:36 AM
I would imagine Ricky Johnston is a big loss too. I'd be very surprised were it not Cargin won it this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2022, 09:56:36 AM
What is wrong with Ricky?

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 08:34:36 AM
I would imagine Ricky Johnston is a big loss too. I'd be very surprised were it not Cargin won it this year.

Is he not away? I thought that was why he dropped off the Antrim panel to play in the States? I could be wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on August 16, 2022, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:51:23 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 08:48:00 AM
these group of 3 are a nonsense - are st endas or Rossa going to go thru with a draw and a loss and no wins?

It's better than Derry where for some reason everyone goes through!

How can everyone go through? How does that work?

4 groups of 4, groups are just used for seeding of the knockout round.

Eg finish 1st in your group you play 4th from another group in first KO game, 2nd plays 3rd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 10:06:12 AM
I thought he was away? I haven't seen him on the teams unless I'm missing him. Maybe he'll be back for later assuming Creggan are still in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2022, 10:09:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2022, 09:56:36 AM
What is wrong with Ricky?

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 08:34:36 AM
I would imagine Ricky Johnston is a big loss too. I'd be very surprised were it not Cargin won it this year.

Is he not away? I thought that was why he dropped off the Antrim panel to play in the States? I could be wrong
He came on v St Galls on Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2022, 10:09:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2022, 09:56:36 AM
What is wrong with Ricky?

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 08:34:36 AM
I would imagine Ricky Johnston is a big loss too. I'd be very surprised were it not Cargin won it this year.

Is he not away? I thought that was why he dropped off the Antrim panel to play in the States? I could be wrong
He came on v St Galls on Sunday

There ya go,  don't get to see us as much these days ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 10:19:42 AM
Ah. That's good - I'd like to see them and Cargin with best teams and see who wins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 16, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
In effect the county final in other words....

I'm not just buying that atm, LD Johnnie's, possibly Rossa could all upset that notion on any given day with full panels together and maybe home advantage.

Still happy enough with my EW investment at 12/1though - wouldn't be swapping that for any other ticket.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on August 16, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
BS who did you manage to get at 12/??

Saw ports now down to 5/1, must be getting heavily backed. Johnnies out to 14/1 after LD defeat.

Im sure anyone of the teams who are on the other side of the draw will give themselves a puncherschance should they make the final and hope one of the big 5 who make it get complacent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2022, 10:50:27 AM
LD could but I don't think the rest could.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2022, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 16, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
In effect the county final in other words....

I'm not just buying that atm, LD Johnnie's, possibly Rossa could all upset that notion on any given day with full panels together and maybe home advantage.

Still happy enough with my EW investment at 12/1though - wouldn't be swapping that for any other ticket.
Of course you are happy with that bet, the bookie clearly never seen the draw  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 16, 2022, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 16, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
In effect the county final in other words....

I'm not just buying that atm, LD Johnnie's, possibly Rossa could all upset that notion on any given day with full panels together and maybe home advantage.

Still happy enough with my EW investment at 12/1though - wouldn't be swapping that for any other ticket.





In the last 7 years Cargin 5 times, Lamh Dhearg&Creggan one each outside of these 3 teams no one else has shown a thing.
I keep hearing Rossa mentioned at times they have done next to nothing in championship in 30 plus years.
Johnnies last title in 1998 also
Casements won't be tested until the final but I'd say the champions will come from the tougher side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 16, 2022, 01:03:35 PM
That concurs with popular opinion. And Casements are not in any final yet either!

Stats are one thing. You can cherry pick 7 years for a reason if it suits your narrative....

It took Cargin a long Time from 1974 to win another, and how long did it take Creggan to add to their title list. Things change, put hard work in, believe, develop your players through formative years, get facilities in place including S&C and build your panel strength. This takes time.

Some clubs coming late to the table but you can expect them to be around for a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 16, 2022, 02:00:40 PM
Stats=facts when it comes to senior championship winners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 16, 2022, 02:48:07 PM
McEntee was out and about the games at the weekend, hopefully he was encouraged by what was on show. Any standout players putting a hand up for county selection?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 16, 2022, 03:09:32 PM
Stats are there to be broken. History matters nothing for this year.

Portlgenone should make the final on all known evidence and form. Whoever comes out of the other half will probably beat them in the final.

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 16, 2022, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 16, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
In effect the county final in other words....

I'm not just buying that atm, LD Johnnie's, possibly Rossa could all upset that notion on any given day with full panels together and maybe home advantage.

Still happy enough with my EW investment at 12/1though - wouldn't be swapping that for any other ticket.





In the last 7 years Cargin 5 times, Lamh Dhearg&Creggan one each outside of these 3 teams no one else has shown a thing.
I keep hearing Rossa mentioned at times they have done next to nothing in championship in 30 plus years.
Johnnies last title in 1998 also
Casements won't be tested until the final but I'd say the champions will come from the tougher side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 16, 2022, 03:13:43 PM
Think BS needs to have another look at the 'stats'....yes Cargin have win 5 out of the last seven championships.
But those 'stats' also say they have won 2 out of the last three minor titles and possibly unlucky in search of three in a row. They had added this year's minor league title and are contenders for the 2022 version.
Cargin also had four u-18s in their champioship game to date and had six on the bench....
Look again at the stats....please.
Maybe not this year but in there for the long haul...possibly a tad biased but such are the stats.....
'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2022, 03:38:47 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 16, 2022, 03:09:32 PM
Stats are there to be broken. History matters nothing for this year.

Portlgenone should make the final on all known evidence and form. Whoever comes out of the other half will probably beat them in the final.

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 16, 2022, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 16, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
In effect the county final in other words....

I'm not just buying that atm, LD Johnnie's, possibly Rossa could all upset that notion on any given day with full panels together and maybe home advantage.

Still happy enough with my EW investment at 12/1though - wouldn't be swapping that for any other ticket.





In the last 7 years Cargin 5 times, Lamh Dhearg&Creggan one each outside of these 3 teams no one else has shown a thing.
I keep hearing Rossa mentioned at times they have done next to nothing in championship in 30 plus years.
Johnnies last title in 1998 also
Casements won't be tested until the final but I'd say the champions will come from the tougher side.

Bit early to to be picking finalists, never mind winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2022, 03:55:31 PM
The county final will be between Cargin or Creggan or Lamh Dhearg  or St Johns versus Portglenone.  You heard it here first  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 16, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
No one doubting Cargin pedigree or what they have coming through.  Credit to them for doing this consistently.  Definitely the current template for all to aspire to.

If you're in any doubt....don't worry....CB will let you know. Lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 06:46:47 PM
Some great chat and still another game to go in the groups..

So who's defo through?

PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 16, 2022, 07:26:46 PM
PG1 have a great chance this year to get their hands on the trophy. I'd fear that the relatively handy run to the final will mean a lack of hard tight games before coming up against the winner of the stronger side of the draw.

Quote from: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 07:32:53 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D

Time yet when the crunch games come, be handing out hankies instead of cards  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 09:16:26 PM
Seedlings based on league positions next year ? Avoid a lop sided competition when everyone say 1 team as god as in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 16, 2022, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 16, 2022, 09:16:26 PM
Seedlings based on league positions next year ? Avoid a lop sided competition when everyone say 1 team as god as in the final

Open draw the way to go. The best team ends up winning it regardless of the draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 16, 2022, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 06:46:47 PM
Some great chat and still another game to go in the groups..

So who's defo through?

PG1


Moneyglass beat PG1 by 8 and st brigids win and PG1 are out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:52:05 PM
So all the last games are not dead rubbers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 16, 2022, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D

I'm not so sure about that. Saw both ports championship games so far and been disappointed in them. Thought they carried more goal threat under Barry Dillons system than under the current style Jmk has them playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 16, 2022, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 16, 2022, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D

I'm not so sure about that. Saw both ports championship games so far and been disappointed in them. Thought they carried more goal threat under Barry Dillons system than under the current style Jmk has them playing.

PG1 look likely to make the final probably, as they are well parked in perceived easier access.

But try as I might cannot see them as champions.....but have been known to be wrong...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 16, 2022, 11:10:36 PM
Have you the lotto numbers there while you are at it?

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2022, 03:55:31 PM
The county final will be between Cargin or Creggan or Lamh Dhearg  or St Johns versus Portglenone.  You heard it here first  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 17, 2022, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 16, 2022, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D

I'm not so sure about that. Saw both ports championship games so far and been disappointed in them. Thought they carried more goal threat under Barry Dillons system than under the current style Jmk has them playing.

I would fully agree here. Still a threat, and no doubting they will be in the final, but for the life of me I cant see how they topple Creggan or Cargin come the big day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2022, 12:50:15 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 17, 2022, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 16, 2022, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 16, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
At least the discussion has moved away from bad ref's.
PG1 to make the final,ye heard it hear also  ;D

I'm not so sure about that. Saw both ports championship games so far and been disappointed in them. Thought they carried more goal threat under Barry Dillons system than under the current style Jmk has them playing.

I would fully agree here. Still a threat, and no doubting they will be in the final, but for the life of me I cant see how they topple Creggan or Cargin come the big day.

Or St Johns or Lamhs, just for fairness ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 17, 2022, 01:14:53 PM
Lol. So we are a cert to get to the final (dont agree there's 3 games to be won before that against Div 1 teams) but if we do, we have no chance in the final!

Neither for one second am I assuming it will definitely be a Creggan versus Cargin semi. Too many assumptions here for my liking. Still a lot of football to be played.

From a Portglenone perspective I would say we don't take any victory for granted, but if we do make a final, we won't be going thinking anyone is that far ahead of us that we don't have a chance. There's no super teams around anymore, not by a long stretch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2022, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 17, 2022, 01:14:53 PM
Lol. So we are a cert to get to the final (dont agree there's 3 games to be won before that against Div 1 teams) but if we do, we have no chance in the final!

Neither for one second am I assuming it will definitely be a Creggan versus Cargin semi. Too many assumptions here for my liking. Still a lot of football to be played.

From a Portglenone perspective I would say we don't take any victory for granted, but if we do make a final, we won't be going thinking anyone is that far ahead of us that we don't have a chance. There's no super teams around anymore, not by a long stretch.

Thats some hook you fished there.. Lets see if there are any bites ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 17, 2022, 01:56:07 PM
Should we rename this board the PG1 Football Thread? haha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 17, 2022, 02:03:05 PM
On the plus side BS you can get all the flags and bunting ordered early as we can say for sure you're for the final. Keep a lid on the hype now..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 17, 2022, 02:49:34 PM
Best thing about PG1 is the road to Ahoghill. No doubt JMK z& his backroom team will have them flying and they'll cause most teams bother.

Cargin to win the championship back. All Saints for IFC and O'Dees for JFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on August 17, 2022, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 17, 2022, 02:03:05 PM
On the plus side BS you can get all the flags and bunting ordered early as we can say for sure you're for the final. Keep a lid on the hype now..

Sure they can just keep the bunting and flags up from the Og Sport win and parade

The double is on or would you call it a 1 and a 1/2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 17, 2022, 03:38:48 PM
PG1 for Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on August 18, 2022, 10:23:37 AM
PG1 in Ulster is a scary thought  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 10:56:34 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on August 18, 2022, 10:23:37 AM
PG1 in Ulster is a scary thought  :-[

Could do no worse that the last few installments  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won some big cups
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - Always a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have a good team, now in relegation zone,  facilities could do with an upgrade
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won some big cups
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - Always a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have a good team, now in relegation zone,  facilities could do with an upgrade

Cargin not pay Cassidy £30k a year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 18, 2022, 01:40:58 PM
What a load of bollocks

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won some big cups
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - Always a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have a good team, now in relegation zone,  facilities could do with an upgrade
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won some big cups
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - Always a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have a good team, now in relegation zone,  facilities could do with an upgrade

Cargin not pay Cassidy £30k a year?
The above was just a bit of craic, but the answer is no they didn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Yeah they have, bounce yourself on back to the Derry board there mate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Yeah they have, bounce yourself on back to the Derry board there mate

Cargin in fairness have been very unlucky over the years at Ulster level, its a tough gig and luck plays a lot into the draw and how you start the game...

Creggan really unlucky last year also in Corrigan.  Its the bounce of the ball or the rub of the green

Cargin have the right personnel to progress in Ulster, that I have no doubt, Derry champions whoever they are each year will always be strong and Kilcoo regardless of their win last year (and their league game the other night) will still be there or thereabouts come Ulster.

Is RD the man to connect the dots? I really hope so, and I'll be cheering them on if they do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2022, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Yeah they have, bounce yourself on back to the Derry board there mate

Bit exclusionist. Tell me are we allowed to read the thread, just not contribute? Or neither?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 18, 2022, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2022, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Yeah they have, bounce yourself on back to the Derry board there mate

Bit exclusionist. Tell me are we allowed to read the thread, just not contribute? Or neither?

Neither. Keep them over the bann where they belong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2022, 02:23:03 PM
Are the might creggan 1 away loss from being out in group stage? Or do my eyes deceive me on county site
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 19, 2022, 02:32:29 PM
Nope you are quite right there Belfast GAA man, seems like something is just not right there, could be the worst defence of a title since Tir Eoghain this year

quote author=Belfast GAA man link=topic=21.msg2145619#msg2145619 date=1660915383]
Are the might creggan 1 away loss from being out in group stage? Or do my eyes deceive me on county site
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on August 19, 2022, 05:09:18 PM
But sure had they won the first day and the results went the same way last week they would still have to draw or win last game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 20, 2022, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 19, 2022, 02:32:29 PM
Nope you are quite right there Belfast GAA man, seems like something is just not right there, could be the worst defence of a title since Tir Eoghain this year

quote author=Belfast GAA man link=topic=21.msg2145619#msg2145619 date=1660915383]
Are the might creggan 1 away loss from being out in group stage? Or do my eyes deceive me on county site
[/quote]

Creggan do have a tough test next week in their trip.to Corrigan but such underlines the worst seeding system that was employed in our county

Can we do nothing right....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 20, 2022, 01:21:57 PM
Top 4 in last year's cship seeded, one in each pot, open draw for the rest. Seems fair enough in principle - what would you do different next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 20, 2022, 07:26:22 PM
seedings on leagur positions or 2 groups of 6 in championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 20, 2022, 08:31:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 20, 2022, 01:21:57 PM
Top 4 in last year's cship seeded, one in each pot, open draw for the rest. Seems fair enough in principle - what would you do different next year?

Open draw for 1/4s on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 20, 2022, 08:32:58 PM
So we are to breathe life into the almost forgotten under-20 football league on Friday 26th Aug...great timing with championship fare on the same week-end...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 20, 2022, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 18, 2022, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2022, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Yeah they have, bounce yourself on back to the Derry board there mate

Bit exclusionist. Tell me are we allowed to read the thread, just not contribute? Or neither?

Neither. Keep them over the bann where they belong

Ok. Ill respect thy wishes. Tho yous could maybe learn a thing or two from the boys across the Bann....

*deleted. Poor form on my behalf (tho i appreciate my post has been copied)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 20, 2022, 10:20:40 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 20, 2022, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 18, 2022, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 18, 2022, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: seanyb on August 18, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2022, 12:37:03 PM
The Antrim Championship is very similar to the English Premier League

Creggan/ Man City - Spent a fortune eventually got over the line
Cargin / Liverpool - Nice team to watch have won one big cup
Arsenal / Portglenone - New young manager, started strong but will they fade away
Tottenham / St Johns - Nice new ground can cause any team a shock, record winners
Chelsea / Lamh Dhearg - recently a contender
Man Utd / St Galls - Used to have an All Ireland winning team, below top 6 ,  facilities are rubbish needs a upgrade

Fixed that ;)

Miltown maybe you can enlighten me, whats Cargins record in the Ulster Club? Have they ever managed to get by the 1st round...ever?
Yeah they have, bounce yourself on back to the Derry board there mate

Bit exclusionist. Tell me are we allowed to read the thread, just not contribute? Or neither?

Neither. Keep them over the bann where they belong

Ok. Ill respect thy wishes. Tho yous could maybe learn a thing or two from the boys across the Bann....

See Cargin in the old (court) news the day.....*fires grenade, leaves room*

Maybe you should leave the board for good. Keep the personal stuff out of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 20, 2022, 10:42:27 PM
Publically available info Paddy. Have said nowt nor given no links. Maybe if you hadnt said to stay to other side of Bann eh 😉

Ps ive been on the board long enough that i dont need to take any direction from you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2022, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 20, 2022, 10:42:27 PM
Publically available info Paddy. Have said nowt nor given no links. Maybe if you hadnt said to stay to other side of Bann eh 😉


Ps ive been on the board long enough that i dont need to take any direction from you

And no mention at all about events in the good old USA......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 21, 2022, 08:54:49 AM
Funny was just talking about it yday.. terrible stuff if found guilty and if what i think youre referring to.

So, nothing to say on the matter Bumpkin? Not like you...but anyway im away back over the Bann 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2022, 05:06:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 19, 2022, 02:23:03 PM
Are the might creggan 1 away loss from being out in group stage? Or do my eyes deceive me on county site

Tbf they haven't even lost a game so not like it's capitulation. Still corrigan never that easy to go to so you never know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2022, 09:00:35 AM
Is this one of ours:

https://twitter.com/antoc24/status/1561465815840555014

Some commentary lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 23, 2022, 11:50:03 AM
Last group game predictions.

St Galls v Lamh Dhearg-away win by 2

St John's v Creggan-away win by 4

Ahoghill v St Brigids--Draw

Moneyglass v Portglenone-away win by 8

Tir na Nog v Aghagallon-home win by 1

O'Donovan Rossa v Cargin-Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 23, 2022, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?



Maybe i am wrong, but is he not saying St Galls have no say in the matter anymore, so there is no issue with having a ref from a team in the group?

If St Galls were still in the race then it would be a different matter.

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 23, 2022, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?



Maybe i am wrong, but is he not saying St Galls have no say in the matter anymore, so there is no issue with having a ref from a team in the group?

If St Galls were still in the race then it would be a different matter.

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?

So does it matter? and why bring it up? unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Relax MR2 not like you would have been specifically appointed by your LD pals

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Relax MR2 not like you would have been specifically appointed by your LD pals

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?

I'd be just as happy doing Junior, which I'm also doing and 2 underage games before that... I reckon if we'd more refs we'd have less issues with getting  appointments allocated.. Don't be shy  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 23, 2022, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Relax MR2 not like you would have been specifically appointed by your LD pals

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?

I'd be just as happy doing Junior, which I'm also doing and 2 underage games before that... I reckon if we'd more refs we'd have less issues with getting  appointments allocated.. Don't be shy  ;)
You seem to get all the biggest games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 04:18:15 PM
The best ref's often do EOC

Quote from: EOC1923 on August 23, 2022, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Relax MR2 not like you would have been specifically appointed by your LD pals

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?

I'd be just as happy doing Junior, which I'm also doing and 2 underage games before that... I reckon if we'd more refs we'd have less issues with getting  appointments allocated.. Don't be shy  ;)
You seem to get all the biggest games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 23, 2022, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Relax MR2 not like you would have been specifically appointed by your LD pals

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?

I'd be just as happy doing Junior, which I'm also doing and 2 underage games before that... I reckon if we'd more refs we'd have less issues with getting  appointments allocated.. Don't be shy  ;)
You seem to get all the biggest games

juvenile games tonight and thursday and Junior on Friday.. We certainly don't have a say in them that's for sure

I'd say the Rossa game would be a bigger game, I'd have preferred that one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 23, 2022, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 23, 2022, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Relax MR2 not like you would have been specifically appointed by your LD pals

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 23, 2022, 01:32:57 PM
Must be why there is a St Galls man appointed to do Creggan v Johns, unusual to have a ref from a team in the same group

Also strange that the LD V St Galls game is on Friday night, would have thought these would have been played at the same time 

Quote from: breakingball on August 23, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
Now it begins to get interesting, every team still playing for something bar st galls?

Why? How would there be benefit in this? I'd really like to know.. We are on zero points, talk me through your logic?

I'd be just as happy doing Junior, which I'm also doing and 2 underage games before that... I reckon if we'd more refs we'd have less issues with getting  appointments allocated.. Don't be shy  ;)
You seem to get all the biggest games

juvenile games tonight and thursday and Junior on Friday.. We certainly don't have a say in them that's for sure

I'd say the Rossa game would be a bigger game, I'd have preferred that one

With Cargin  already through to the next phase and possibly taking the opportunity to give more game time to their youthful panel seems no opportunity for the whistler to be influential...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
In what way? I don't understand how he influences the game.. the players decide who wins, well unless  that's changed from my playing days...

I know there are some conspiracy nut jobs out there though so can't discount their crackpot theories

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 23, 2022, 09:19:20 PM
Sometimes a square on shoulder to shoulder on the 13M line results in a free in to tap over at a crucial time of a game? Or a clear black/possibly red card from former county full back goes unpunished.
but we can all make mistakes only human after all it can't be an easy job fair play to anyone pulling on a referee top
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2022, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 23, 2022, 09:19:20 PM
Sometimes a square on shoulder to shoulder on the 13M line results in a free in to tap over at a crucial time of a game? Or a clear black/possibly red card from former county full back goes unpunished.
but we can all make mistakes only human after all it can't be an easy job fair play to anyone pulling on a referee top

That's the ref's call in those games are hard, he's a split second to call, peoples angles may be different and their interpretation is different, but teams ultimately determine games.. ref's don't care who runs tbh.

Stretching with the black/ref card though ;D other after reviewing could have been different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 23, 2022, 11:04:29 PM
Personally no skin in this game, say mr2 ref st Endas v Rossa the other week, did his job without incident, but 2 awful teams involved in an awful game , can't blame the ref for that level of negativity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 24, 2022, 04:18:06 PM
Massive game for us at the weekend, we haven't been playing as well as we can, however this game is the beginning of our title defence, its knockout football all the way and our hunger for more success will now be properly tested. McCanns acl injury is a blow to us but we coped last season with big injuries, we can cope with is this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 24, 2022, 09:50:30 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 24, 2022, 04:18:06 PM
Massive game for us at the weekend, we haven't been playing as well as we can, however this game is the beginning of our title defence, its knockout football all the way and our hunger for more success will now be properly tested. McCanns acl injury is a blow to us but we coped last season with big injuries, we can cope with is this.

Any idea why dk yous haven't been firing ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 25, 2022, 08:06:53 AM
Possibly not at their best so far, but don't be writing Creggan off just yet. Still a two horse race in my view.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 25, 2022, 08:57:40 AM
Where Creggan not slow to start last year also ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 25, 2022, 09:25:04 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 24, 2022, 09:50:30 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on August 24, 2022, 04:18:06 PM
Massive game for us at the weekend, we haven't been playing as well as we can, however this game is the beginning of our title defence, its knockout football all the way and our hunger for more success will now be properly tested. McCanns acl injury is a blow to us but we coped last season with big injuries, we can cope with is this.

Any idea why dk yous haven't been firing ??

It is as Erinsboy said, we were slow to get going last season to. The one thing that is different, is that instead of us previously for years upon years being the hunter, we are now the hunted. Its a completely different mind set to adjust to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 25, 2022, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 25, 2022, 08:06:53 AM
Possibly not at their best so far, but don't be writing Creggan off just yet. Still a two horse race in my view.

Yep, none of the city teams will be near it or for a few years to come by the looks of things. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 25, 2022, 09:39:38 AM
LD maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 25, 2022, 10:33:53 AM
dont write off the johnnies at home - some smashing forwards and wil like being underdogs for motivation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 25, 2022, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 25, 2022, 10:33:53 AM
dont write off the johnnies at home - some smashing forwards and wil like being underdogs for motivation

I've written them.off already
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 25, 2022, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 25, 2022, 10:33:53 AM
dont write off the johnnies at home - some smashing forwards and wil like being underdogs for motivation




Word on the street is they have loads of big injuries to key men
Unfortunately looks like its not going to be much of a game after all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 26, 2022, 09:33:27 AM
The county missing a good opportunity to increase gate recites this weekend with the timing of Cargin/Rossa and Creggan/Johnnies games .I'm sure alot of us country folk would have went to both games to cheer our parish friends  on if there wasn't such a big gap between games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2022, 09:50:56 AM
That's where live streaming comes in. It makes county good money over the course of a championship season.

A few tasty contests ahead this weekend, some clubs in last chance saloon, others not mathematically safe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 26, 2022, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 26, 2022, 09:50:56 AM
That's where live streaming comes in. It makes county good money over the course of a championship season.

A few tasty contests ahead this weekend, some clubs in last chance saloon, others not mathematically safe.

The streaming doesent even come close, in my opinion & does the guts of any income not go to Jerome Quinn?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2022, 09:57:33 AM
I think this is all the games... Some interesting enough ones there.


SFC
St Galls vs LD -LD by 5
Ahoghill vs St Brigids - Ahoghill by 3
Moneyglass vs Portglenone - Portglenone by 3
Randalstown vs Aghagallon - Aghagallon by 2
Rossa vs Cargin - Cargin by 4

IFC
Sarsfields vs Ardoyne - Sarsfields by 1
Dunloy vs Lisburn - Dunloy by 5
St Pauls vs Aldergrove - draw
Glenravel vs Davitts - draw

JFC
Eire Og vs Wolfe Tones - Eire Og by 12
St Malachys vs Laochra Loch Lao - St Malachys by 6
St Agnes vs Ballycastle - St Agnes by 12
O'Donnels vs Pearses - O'Donnels by 3

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
As far as I know county did well out of it financially last year.

On a positive note it's great to hear about the excellent work that has gone into setting up a sixteen school competition for years 8 and 10 for secondary or grammar schools in county Antrim.

This is a fantastic initiative delivered with the energy and vision of coaching and games development officer Paddy Kelly. Will hopefully pave the way for exciting added value aspects relating to additional coaching resources being made available somewhere in the mix, supported by county or province, as advocated here earlier this year.

The launch is 7th September at St Mary's training College. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 26, 2022, 10:21:29 AM
The streaming would need to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 26, 2022, 11:01:37 AM
Funny we were just saying the same when coming home from watching St Galls v Creggan a couple of week ago, put the John's v LD game on closer to it you would have had a bumper crowd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Aghagallon, Tir Na Nog and Gort Na Mona all in a 3 team group in the senior championship. Only noticed today after seeing it laid out in tables in todays Irish News. The bottom 3 teams in the league, whereas Creggan or St Johns will go out tomorrow. Something badly wrong with that draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 27, 2022, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Aghagallon, Tir Na Nog and Gort Na Mona all in a 3 team group in the senior championship. Only noticed today after seeing it laid out in tables in todays Irish News. The bottom 3 teams in the league, whereas Creggan or St Johns will go out tomorrow. Something badly wrong with that draw.
Ah.....luck of the draw ...is a random outcome of a draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 27, 2022, 08:44:23 PM
Arguably 7 of the top 8 teams this year are on the same side of the draw. Portglenone being the other one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 27, 2022, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Aghagallon, Tir Na Nog and Gort Na Mona all in a 3 team group in the senior championship. Only noticed today after seeing it laid out in tables in todays Irish News. The bottom 3 teams in the league, whereas Creggan or St Johns will go out tomorrow. Something badly wrong with that draw.
Ah.....luck of the draw ...is a random outcome of a draw
Luck of the draw yes, handy for the 3 teams In the group yes. Good for the standard of the championship NO!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2022, 09:14:04 PM
As tonight's draw between St Galls and LD demonstrates there is very little between a lot of clubs. As I said before there are no superclubs around anymore, a club from bottom six is capable of going toe to toe with any of the so called top six. On any given day that is.

Focus on one game at a time and see where it takes you. Look beyond that and you're asking for trouble!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 28, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 27, 2022, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Aghagallon, Tir Na Nog and Gort Na Mona all in a 3 team group in the senior championship. Only noticed today after seeing it laid out in tables in todays Irish News. The bottom 3 teams in the league, whereas Creggan or St Johns will go out tomorrow. Something badly wrong with that draw.
Ah.....luck of the draw ...is a random outcome of a draw
Luck of the draw yes, handy for the 3 teams In the group yes. Good for the standard of the championship NO!

Covid is done so I believe the best thing to do is go back to straight knock out.  Hard to beat straight knock out championship football.  I think the league basis / round robin thing dilutes it and creates matches that dont have that championship feel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 28, 2022, 11:38:52 AM
A motion to change present structure of championship to Convention is required if such is to happen..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 28, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2022, 09:14:04 PM
As tonight's draw between St Galls and LD demonstrates there is very little between a lot of clubs. As I said before there are no superclubs around anymore, a club from bottom six is capable of going toe to toe with any of the so called top six. On any given day that is.

Focus on one game at a time and see where it takes you. Look beyond that and you're asking for trouble!
Yes BS gort na Mona could beat Cargin or Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 28, 2022, 12:19:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 28, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2022, 09:14:04 PM
As tonight's draw between St Galls and LD demonstrates there is very little between a lot of clubs. As I said before there are no superclubs around anymore, a club from bottom six is capable of going toe to toe with any of the so called top six. On any given day that is.

Focus on one game at a time and see where it takes you. Look beyond that and you're asking for trouble!
Yes BS gort na Mona could beat Cargin or Creggan.

Straight  knock out could still have a lop sided   outcome , although top 4 in league could be drawn in either side , as is current.
Tbf to GNM , they wanted to play in IFC , this year and were turned down !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 28, 2022, 12:24:58 PM
The best team wins the championship, no matter the structure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 28, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Aghagallon, Tir Na Nog and Gort Na Mona all in a 3 team group in the senior championship. Only noticed today after seeing it laid out in tables in todays Irish News. The bottom 3 teams in the league, whereas Creggan or St Johns will go out tomorrow. Something badly wrong with that draw.
Cargin beat Rossa in the league.  Counted for nothing today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 28, 2022, 04:12:02 PM
Aghagallon v St Brigids
Portglenone v Gort Na Mona
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 28, 2022, 04:18:43 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 28, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Aghagallon, Tir Na Nog and Gort Na Mona all in a 3 team group in the senior championship. Only noticed today after seeing it laid out in tables in todays Irish News. The bottom 3 teams in the league, whereas Creggan or St Johns will go out tomorrow. Something badly wrong with that draw.
Cargin beat Rossa in the league.  Counted for nothing today.
How's that relevant, sure we were already through, didn't you notice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 28, 2022, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 28, 2022, 04:12:02 PM
Aghagallon v St Brigids
Portglenone v Gort Na Mona

Do those 2 winners meet in semi ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 28, 2022, 04:41:07 PM
Yes

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 28, 2022, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 28, 2022, 04:12:02 PM
Aghagallon v St Brigids
Portglenone v Gort Na Mona

Do those 2 winners meet in semi ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 28, 2022, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 28, 2022, 04:41:07 PM
Yes

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 28, 2022, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 28, 2022, 04:12:02 PM
Aghagallon v St Brigids
Portglenone v Gort Na Mona

Do those 2 winners meet in semi ?

So a Creggan win this evening means its cargin for them in the 1/4s
Championship starts for real now this evening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 28, 2022, 04:53:36 PM
What happened to might cargin today ? Beat by a belfast team !!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 28, 2022, 05:19:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 28, 2022, 04:53:36 PM
What happened to might cargin today ? Beat by a belfast team !!!!
They weren't trying apparently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 28, 2022, 05:31:35 PM
Not interested in any other result other than our own. Every club beatable from what I see. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 28, 2022, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 28, 2022, 05:19:56 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 28, 2022, 04:53:36 PM
What happened to might cargin today ? Beat by a belfast team !!!!
They weren't trying apparently.
they brough some crowd with them for a team not trying!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Creggan johnnies a draw. I read a tweet saying it was cargin against Creggan now and Rossa ld but surely it's the other way round. Are the games not based on group places and now it'd be cargin v ld, creggan v Rossa, portglenone vs gnm and st Brigids vs aghagallon? (N.b. That is not factual but what I think so open to correction...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 28, 2022, 07:49:35 PM
You'd have to think its Portglenone's year.  I just cant see past them this year.  They have been knocking on the door for years, I think its finally going to open.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 28, 2022, 07:55:54 PM
Caught a few games over the weekend and have to say the standard of the refereeing was very good.

St Johns unlucky not to make the quarters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 28, 2022, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 28, 2022, 07:49:35 PM
You'd have to think its Portglenone's year.  I just cant see past them this year.  They have been knocking on the door for years, I think its finally going to open.
I agree they're winning every game with such ease.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 28, 2022, 08:15:53 PM
Is there any chance we can get shot of the most City biased PRO? Absolutely embarrassing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 28, 2022, 08:18:20 PM
Creggan St Endas also leave the city today without a win. Strange times !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 28, 2022, 08:21:26 PM
Yeah tables have turned, if you were a betting man you would split the house and put half each on Ld & Rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 28, 2022, 08:38:15 PM
Just looking into the draw. Mad stuff alright. Pg1 basically in final and im sure will be planning accordingly. They will never get a better chance. They have been doing a lot of work there to be fair so it was coming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 28, 2022, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 28, 2022, 08:15:53 PM
Is there any chance we can get shot of the most City biased PRO? Absolutely embarrassing

Every chance. Stand for the position yourself at County Convention, that's how it goes.

Dan is a volunteer doing a great job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 28, 2022, 08:52:32 PM
That was a definitely skid row for a few minutes. That game will help us. St Johns always a hard nut to crack. Casements the team to beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 28, 2022, 09:23:33 PM
 The real stuff begins now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 28, 2022, 09:32:42 PM
I eat my words by the way well done today MR2, well handled
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 28, 2022, 09:42:16 PM
See a white flag flying over the Cargin club house....seems the are thinking about withdrawing from senior championship.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 28, 2022, 11:04:55 PM
That's cargin finished no point turning up for the quarter final teams gone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 28, 2022, 11:10:12 PM
Took a run over to Moneyglass today and gotta tell you for me PG1 are favs to win the C'ship. Knocking on the door for far too long now. They'll beat Cargin in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 28, 2022, 11:55:53 PM
Only an idiot would bet against Portglenone at this stage.

It will be interesting to see how they get on in the ulster championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:16:55 AM
John Mc Keever has PG1 well primed, no one getting carried away. We know there's nothing out there that's not beatable by any stretch. On today's performance we wouldn't fear anyone. But long way to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:48:57 AM
Some condescending posters from around SW should take a reality check from the weekend performances. St Johns and Rossa were more than equal in their head to heads against the illustrious loughshore duo. Further evidence that there's very little between half a dozen clubs and every club is thoroughly beatable on any given day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 29, 2022, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:16:55 AM
John Mc Keever has PG1 well primed, no one getting carried away. We know there's nothing out there that's not beatable by any stretch. On today's performance we wouldn't fear anyone. But long way to go.
You beat a division 2 team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:48:57 AM
Some condescending posters from around SW should take a reality check from the weekend performances. St Johns and Rossa were more than equal in their head to heads against the illustrious loughshore duo. Further evidence that there's very little between half a dozen clubs and every club is thoroughly beatable on any given day.

Just when did PG1 beat a tough shore side'.......?

Oh right, they did beat Cargin in an O' Cahan cup game....was that over 20 years past..?

No wonder the possibility of meeting up with a 'senior championship maiden' is provoking thoughts of withdrawal up at Toome..?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 29, 2022, 06:22:18 PM
So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league starts again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 29, 2022, 06:50:34 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 29, 2022, 06:22:18 PM
So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league starts again.

Did the majority of teams not make it through to football in September ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 29, 2022, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:16:55 AM
John Mc Keever has PG1 well primed, no one getting carried away. We know there's nothing out there that's not beatable by any stretch. On today's performance we wouldn't fear anyone. But long way to go.
You beat a division 2 team

They can only beat what is drawn against them in all fairness. They'll beat Cargin when the time comes. Mark my words.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 29, 2022, 06:22:18 PM
So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league starts again.

Antrim have made a mockery of the split season. They were the first county in Ireland to start their leagues, and of course no county players allowed to play (hardly a split season then). The C'ship now has over half the teams out and it's not even September - what was the rush? Surely our leagues should be wrapping up now and Cships starting in Sept?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 29, 2022, 09:52:12 PM
Quote from: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 29, 2022, 06:22:18 PM
So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league starts again.

Antrim have made a mockery of the split season. They were the first county in Ireland to start their leagues, and of course no county players allowed to play (hardly a split season then). The C'ship now has over half the teams out and it's not even September - what was the rush? Surely our leagues should be wrapping up now and Cships starting in Sept?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 29, 2022, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 29, 2022, 09:52:12 PM
Quote from: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 29, 2022, 06:22:18 PM
So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league starts again.

Antrim have made a mockery of the split season. They were the first county in Ireland to start their leagues, and of course no county players allowed to play (hardly a split season then). The C'ship now has over half the teams out and it's not even September - what was the rush? Surely our leagues should be wrapping up now and Cships starting in Sept?

So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 29, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 29, 2022, 09:53:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 29, 2022, 09:52:12 PM
Quote from: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 29, 2022, 06:22:18 PM
So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league starts again.

Antrim have made a mockery of the split season. They were the first county in Ireland to start their leagues, and of course no county players allowed to play (hardly a split season then). The C'ship now has over half the teams out and it's not even September - what was the rush? Surely our leagues should be wrapping up now and Cships starting in Sept?

So for the majority of adult teams that didn't make it through to their respective championship QF, that's it, season over before the end of August. The new split season calendar has fairly shortened the year all round. There is likely 7 months before the league

22 teams with at least one game left. That aside, I thought it was refreshing to play championship games in the  summer  instead of howling wind and rain of autumn. Although,  weather not always reliable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2022, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 29, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 29, 2022, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:16:55 AM
John Mc Keever has PG1 well primed, no one getting carried away. We know there's nothing out there that's not beatable by any stretch. On today's performance we wouldn't fear anyone. But long way to go.
You beat a division 2 team

They can only beat what is drawn against them in all fairness. They'll beat Cargin when the time comes. Mark my words.
As long as nobody picks on big Niall, they should lift

Sure Cargin are well past their sell by now....nothing coming through....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2022, 10:19:10 PM
Right now there will be a stack of clubs thinking a Mc Namee is possible. Much more exciting than the decade when the big two were miles ahead of the rest and St Galls were only starting their warm up at this time of the year.

Intermediate coming to the boil as well, I suppose Baker has Ballymena in the favourites position, yes/no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 29, 2022, 10:55:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2022, 10:19:10 PM
Right now there will be a stack of clubs thinking a Mc Namee is possible. Much more exciting than the decade when the big two were miles ahead of the rest and St Galls were only starting their warm up at this time of the year.

Intermediate coming to the boil as well, I suppose Baker has Ballymena in the favourites position, yes/no?




BS I hate the burst your bubble after a tremendous effort against poor moneyglass and possibly straight run to final bar a lack of 2 dangly boys like last year. But Portglenone won't compete with either Creggan nor cargin on the showpiece day but fair play keep the foney dream alive, Mr mcnamee will be in cargin clubhouse or Creggan on 9th of October, sin é
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 29, 2022, 11:50:51 PM
semi pairings to be a carbon copy of last year?

PG1 will beat GNM at a canter. St marys/brids bit tougher to call but i think aghagallon have the better forwards to win it for them.

Rossas tails will be up with that win yesterday and will give them great belief going into the creggan match. Creggan were poor yesterday and were a kick off the ball away from going out against a pretty average johnnies team.

Cargin/LD should be a cracker and its a toss up IMO.

PG1 probably the standout team thus far but they havent played anyone of note yet so hard to properly judge them.

Still expect either cargin or creggan to win it but its as open as its ever been.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2022, 08:18:08 AM
Always open but the 'easy passage' thus far by PG1 and their close run affairs to get the better of St Mary's and St Brigid's cannot be termed 'stand out'.
Of course the got past a Moneyglass team which failed to score at Toome last year.
Yep the look destined for a place in the final if they can get past Aghagallon this time (pooed in the next last year.

Maybe the might get to the 2022 final but as to passage past those top sides on the other side of the draw is a much, more difficult task.
They haven't beaten either Cargin or Creggan in a generation and can anyone predict signs of such in the near future is imminent....

An 'easy passage' thus far only reached 'impressive' against poor opposition more formidable opposition awaits....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 30, 2022, 08:23:56 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 29, 2022, 10:55:39 PM
BS I hate the burst your bubble after a tremendous effort against poor moneyglass and possibly straight run to final bar a lack of 2 dangly boys like last year. But Portglenone won't compete with either Creggan nor cargin on the showpiece day but fair play keep the foney dream alive, Mr mcnamee will be in cargin clubhouse or Creggan on 9th of October, sin é

Absolutely spot on Lár na páirce. PG1 came up short last year so I am surprised they even bothered to enter a team this year. How dare anyone aside from Cargin/Creggan aspire to win a Championship!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 30, 2022, 08:43:28 AM
Also credit where it's due, I thought the officiating at the game I watched on Sunday was very good. Allowed an intense, physical contest without letting things get out of control. Well managed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 30, 2022, 09:00:01 AM
Will be a lot clearer after the Q Finals. On the group results it all looks very open but this could change with the knock outs, anything possible obviously.
Personally I think start the leagues mid April, run through to end of August and a knock out championship in September / Early October is the way forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2022, 09:28:58 AM
All the teams who have won the title in the last 25 years being on same side of the draw is nuts, open draw is the way to go, have to go back to St Paul's in 1997
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2022, 09:40:28 AM
St galls-13
Cargin-8
St johns-1
Lamh dhearg-1
Creggan-1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 30, 2022, 10:19:11 AM
Bumpkin we are in your head. Every second paragraph is anti PG1. No panel. No scoring forwards. It's been well noted in these parts....whilst bigging your own club all all the time. Cargin don't need you to be doing that, the bookies have them as favourites for a reason.

Whereas my position is clear. Cargin and Creggan "probably" the teams to beat still, but other clubs are losing any fear factor that might have once existed. Everyone beatable and that most definitely includes yourselves.

Mick and James Laverty will both be huge bonuses for Cargin, they have been badly missed. All to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 30, 2022, 10:21:12 AM
Won't be long now till the dawn chorus starts chirping in.....who's going to be first!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2022, 11:23:33 AM
Any dates times and venues yet
Also, what is the 1/4 final lineup in the intermediate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2022, 11:36:31 AM
Intermediate:
Davitts v Glenavy
Glenravel v Ballymena
Dunloy v Aldergrove
Sarsfields v St Pauls

I *think* those are what they are anyway. I read on SG Ballymena play Glenravel so that would be how the rest would pan out based on that I think...

Juniors:
O'Donnells v Laochra Lao
Pearses v St Malachys

You would assume Ballymena favourites for intermediate. Dunloy have a strong lineup at present though too with two Elliots, Cunning and Molloy. If they continue to play they'll maybe be hard beat but depends how the hurling pans out for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 30, 2022, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2022, 11:36:31 AM
Intermediate:
Davitts v Glenavy
Glenravel v Ballymena
Dunloy v Aldergrove
Sarsfields v St Pauls

I *think* those are what they are anyway. I read on SG Ballymena play Glenravel so that would be how the rest would pan out based on that I think...

Juniors:
O'Donnells v Laochra Lao
Pearses v St Malachys

You would assume Ballymena favourites for intermediate. Dunloy have a strong lineup at present though too with two Elliots, Cunning and Molloy. If they continue to play they'll maybe be hard beat but depends how the hurling pans out for them.

IFC  Qtrs 
A. Sarsfields v St Pauls
B. Glenavy  v Davitts
C. Glenravel  v Ballymena
D. Aldergrove v Dunloy

Semis
A v C
B v D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 30, 2022, 01:05:41 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 30, 2022, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2022, 11:36:31 AM
Intermediate:
Davitts v Glenavy
Glenravel v Ballymena
Dunloy v Aldergrove
Sarsfields v St Pauls

I *think* those are what they are anyway. I read on SG Ballymena play Glenravel so that would be how the rest would pan out based on that I think...

Juniors:
O'Donnells v Laochra Lao
Pearses v St Malachys

You would assume Ballymena favourites for intermediate. Dunloy have a strong lineup at present though too with two Elliots, Cunning and Molloy. If they continue to play they'll maybe be hard beat but depends how the hurling pans out for them.

IFC  Qtrs 
A. Sarsfields v St Pauls
B. Glenavy  v Davitts
C. Glenravel  v Ballymena
D. Aldergrove v Dunloy

Semis
A v C
B v D

Are there odds available for the intermediate championship outright?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2022, 02:28:20 PM
You wouldn't be ruling any of those teams out there, fairly competitive championship
Ballymena Dunloy final would be my pick, but as has been said Dunloy hurling has a big say and Glenravel will give Ballymena their fill
St Paul's could've and perhaps should've turned over Moneyglass in the semi 2 years ago so they'll be favourites for a semi spot this year and won't be worried about Ballymena or Glenravel
All very interesting, must take a couple of these games in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2022, 02:36:21 PM
Ballymena a funny one. You'd not have expected Glenavy to beat them but then I don't think McAleer was playing who seems to be their main man. You'd have thought Stewart, McAleer and McVeigh would be very strong at this level and I think McCarry handy too but yeah them and Dunloy could be the two big ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 30, 2022, 03:01:40 PM
4 SFC quarters spread out across the weekend. Fill your boots!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2022, 03:19:18 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on August 30, 2022, 03:01:40 PM
4 SFC quarters spread out across the weekend. Fill your boots!

Should play each one as a double header with an IFC game but doubt that will happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2022, 03:23:40 PM
Cargin v Lamhs will be tasty under the lights
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 30, 2022, 03:31:52 PM
Are the fixtures out? I couldnt see them in the website
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 30, 2022, 03:41:01 PM
LD v Cargin Dunsilly 7.30pm Friday 9th; PG1 v GNM Dunsilly 5pm Sat; NB v Aghagallon 1pm Glenavy Sunday; Rossa v Creggan 3.30pm Hightown Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 30, 2022, 04:26:54 PM
I don't understand the slagging Bannside and PG1 are getting. He's only stating facts. The usuals are still favourites but the chasing pack have nothing to fear against any of them. PG1 might not win a final but they're well improved and it would hardly be a massive shock if they won the whole thing. There is no dominate team that is hammering everyone like the great St Galls team used to do. I wouldn't be surprised if LD win it either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
That's the page I'm on JS. Let every club worry about themselves. Go enjoy the most open championship in years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 30, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
That's the page I'm on JS. Let every club worry about themselves. Go enjoy the most open championship in years.

Or the big two have been stumbling along waiting for the serious stuff to start! Who knows!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:34:17 PM
Could happen...and we will be first to acknowledge. No one saying they aren't still at the top table.

As for you sneaky so and sos JS. What long grass might you boys have been lying in all year... arriving home for when it matters..thinking no one has noticed...lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 30, 2022, 05:34:33 PM
I think it's called deflection men if we are talking about PG1 we are not talking about Kickhams 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2022, 06:21:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 30, 2022, 05:34:33 PM
I think it's called deflection men if we are talking about PG1 we are not talking about Kickhams

Kickham's are holding fast......their best is yet to come.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 30, 2022, 06:25:35 PM
What game was it? St John's v Creggan?

Quote from: Caesar on August 30, 2022, 08:43:28 AM
Also credit where it's due, I thought the officiating at the game I watched on Sunday was very good. Allowed an intense, physical contest without letting things get out of control. Well managed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 30, 2022, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:34:17 PM
Could happen...and we will be first to acknowledge. No one saying they aren't still at the top table.

As for you sneaky so and sos JS. What long grass might you boys have been lying in all year... arriving home for when it matters..thinking no one has noticed...lol.

Terrible year for a number of reasons but few men back now and hoping to try and get a bit of form going but hard to see it at this stage of the year. We need to keep the season going as long as possible to try and get boys fit and up and running!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 31, 2022, 06:56:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 30, 2022, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:34:17 PM
Could happen...and we will be first to acknowledge. No one saying they aren't still at the top table.

As for you sneaky so and sos JS. What long grass might you boys have been lying in all year... arriving home for when it matters..thinking no one has noticed...lol.

Terrible year for a number of reasons but few men back now and hoping to try and get a bit of form going but hard to see it at this stage of the year. We need to keep the season going as long as possible to try and get boys fit and up and running!

Sad as it is JS having been watching clips of the championship in the states and young AL starred, yet he couldn't make the team with last two county managers! Maybe Mc Entee will give him the opportunity, talent like that shouldn't be on the bench!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2022, 07:43:17 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on August 31, 2022, 06:56:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 30, 2022, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:34:17 PM
Could happen...and we will be first to acknowledge. No one saying they aren't still at the top table.

As for you sneaky so and sos JS. What long grass might you boys have been lying in all year... arriving home for when it matters..thinking no one has noticed...lol.

Terrible year for a number of reasons but few men back now and hoping to try and get a bit of form going but hard to see it at this stage of the year. We need to keep the season going as long as possible to try and get boys fit and up and running!

Sad as it is JS having been watching clips of the championship in the states and young AL starred, yet he couldn't make the team with last two county managers! Maybe Mc Entee will give him the opportunity, talent like that shouldn't be on the bench!

Always an admirer of AL but did he not leave the county panel to head stateside this year.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 31, 2022, 09:19:29 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on August 31, 2022, 06:56:54 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 30, 2022, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 30, 2022, 05:34:17 PM
Could happen...and we will be first to acknowledge. No one saying they aren't still at the top table.

As for you sneaky so and sos JS. What long grass might you boys have been lying in all year... arriving home for when it matters..thinking no one has noticed...lol.

Terrible year for a number of reasons but few men back now and hoping to try and get a bit of form going but hard to see it at this stage of the year. We need to keep the season going as long as possible to try and get boys fit and up and running!

Sad as it is JS having been watching clips of the championship in the states and young AL starred, yet he couldn't make the team with last two county managers! Maybe Mc Entee will give him the opportunity, talent like that shouldn't be on the bench!
Very very good player, don't know him but I heard he had a poor attitude. Hopefully McEntee gets him in and helps with that. Great asset.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 31, 2022, 09:51:18 AM
Any word on dates and venues for Intermediate and Junior championship? Seems a bit disrespectful to only announce the senior like they have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2022, 09:52:05 AM
Has probably been the outstanding player in his age group so exactly the type of player Andy needs to be looking at or working with. Both Lenny and Enda had other ideas or didn't see AL as first fifteen, but I've seen more than enough at times from him to know he's well ahead of many in our panel forward division. A good age now to start kicking on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 31, 2022, 10:06:00 AM
Who is AL FFS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 31, 2022, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 31, 2022, 10:06:00 AM
Who is AL FFS?
🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 31, 2022, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 31, 2022, 10:06:00 AM
Who is AL FFS?


Adam Loughran
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2022, 10:09:45 AM
Though I hope his shooting is usually better than on that viral video clip of the dodgy commentary  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 31, 2022, 10:10:14 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 31, 2022, 09:52:05 AM
Has probably been the outstanding player in his age group so exactly the type of player Andy needs to be looking at or working with. Both Lenny and Enda had other ideas or didn't see AL as first fifteen, but I've seen more than enough at times from him to know he's well ahead of many in our panel forward division. A good age now to start kicking on.

Enda gave him his chanced BS, he started the first 2 games at no11 under mcginley
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 31, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 31, 2022, 09:51:18 AM
Any word on dates and venues for Intermediate and Junior championship? Seems a bit disrespectful to only announce the senior like they have

I think there is still a home draw for some teams. Weekend of the 11th.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2022, 11:01:36 AM
1st place in groups is home draw in intermediate anyway as per a post yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2022, 11:31:39 AM
Adam a good age now to step up and show what he can do on a bigger stage. Potential is one thing, no one disputing that, maybe needs a bit more of something else to go with it, attitude or whatever. To be fair Lenny and Enda both had a close up look so we're well placed to judge. If he's going to kick on it really does need to be now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2022, 01:22:11 PM
So E L rated big time by Enda Mc.....left the county panel as did a few others pre championship.....wonder will the new man get more commitment.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 31, 2022, 01:58:15 PM
Hopefully AL commits to AM and they have a chance of winning the NL and we can go to CP to watch. UTH
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2022, 03:04:39 PM
Up the Hoops lol. HH.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 31, 2022, 03:37:02 PM
AMcE is coming up for the championship Q Finals. His itinerary - Dunsilly Friday night for LD v Cargin, stay in Dunsilly Hotel.
Saturday - North Coast, taking in the rope bridge and giants causeway, stay in Bushmills Inn
Sunday - Spot of Brunch in Tullyglass. Onto Dunsilly for the Creggan v Rossa game then Back to Meath  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 31, 2022, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 31, 2022, 03:37:02 PM
AMcE is coming up for the championship Q Finals. His itinerary - Dunsilly Friday night for LD v Cargin, stay in Dunsilly Hotel.
Saturday - North Coast, taking in the rope bridge and giants causeway, stay in Bushmills Inn
Sunday - Spot of Brunch in Tullyglass. Onto Dunsilly for the Creggan v Rossa game then Back to Meath  ;D


Lol..very good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2022, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 31, 2022, 03:37:02 PM
AMcE is coming up for the championship Q Finals. His itinerary - Dunsilly Friday night for LD v Cargin, stay in Dunsilly Hotel.
Saturday - North Coast, taking in the rope bridge and giants causeway, stay in Bushmills Inn
Sunday - Spot of Brunch in Tullyglass. Onto Dunsilly for the Creggan v Rossa game then Back to Meath  ;D

Jeez you are saying he is not going to run his eye over the Bannsiders....
Cheeky enough from the new man.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 31, 2022, 05:16:53 PM
Here we go again.....every sentence...lol. Man can't help himself at this stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2022, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 31, 2022, 05:16:53 PM
Here we go again.....every sentence...lol. Man can't help himself at this stage!

Top team packed with talent.....nearly favs for senior championship.......surely logic says have a look....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 31, 2022, 10:45:37 PM
i fancy the gorts to create an upset
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 01, 2022, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 31, 2022, 10:45:37 PM
i fancy the gorts to create an upset

LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 01, 2022, 08:35:10 PM
The big two into the senior reserve final I see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 01, 2022, 09:33:13 PM
Big two surely. Any spare tickets for the final let me know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2022, 09:40:46 PM
U15 semi finals tonight, wins for St Endas and Naomh Brid. Final next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 01, 2022, 09:47:47 PM
SW v SA. I'll close the door on the way out...lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 01, 2022, 09:54:48 PM
I should say those two are the u15 'A' finalists. There are 3 u15 championship grades
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 01, 2022, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 01, 2022, 09:33:13 PM
Big two surely. Any spare tickets for the final let me know.
Now now don't be running down the reserve final just because you aren't in it. I know you boys took that defeat badly tonight. A severe rollicking being handed out just as I was climbing into my car.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 01, 2022, 11:19:31 PM
One of my favourite wins as a manager was winning that competition EOC, ironically beating Cargin in the final. A good even game tonight, very little in it, was thinking you might have been a bit more gracious considering you won by a single point with the last kick of a game that could have gone either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 08:01:26 AM
Cargin made it to the under-15 B final last night with a hard earned win at Fennel park.
Ardoyne a team to watch.....a panel of 32 on show....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 02, 2022, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 01, 2022, 11:19:31 PM
One of my favourite wins as a manager was winning that competition EOC, ironically beating Cargin in the final. A good even game tonight, very little in it, was thinking you might have been a bit more gracious considering you won by a single point with the last kick of a game that could have gone either way.
Good game to watch, Tom with a big free at the end to seal it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 02, 2022, 10:44:24 AM
Tom Shivers looking good....plenty of good young talent in that Cargin team, most have acquired a fair bit of silverware already in their careers.

Happy with what we have coming through too, you look at the league finishing table and the senior reserve results and you have to say Casements are definitely closing the gap on the big two. Only a fool would dismiss that.

Still say there's not a pile between top six though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 02, 2022, 11:39:28 AM
You could be right about closing the gap but that can only be told after the Senior Chanpionship concludes, can't go on reserve on senior league results, teams were so disjointed for half the season. Sunday 9th October will tell all whoever features. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2022, 01:29:04 PM
Reserve final next Thursday night 6.45 cargin v Creggan
U15B final next Thursday night 6.45 cargin v GNM
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 03:24:35 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2022, 01:29:04 PM
Reserve final next Thursday night 6.45 cargin v Creggan
U15B final next
Thursday night 6.45 cargin v GNM

Smart.planning from.our CCC..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

But perhaps the could have considered all options....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2022, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

I'm with CB on this one
I know there's a master fixture list and as MR2 will say if you've nothing to do volunteer yourself ( and I get that ) but common sense has to prevail here
Push the reserve final back 90 minutes double header in dunsilly
Maybe it's not practical I don't know but....

But perhaps the could have considered all options....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 02, 2022, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2022, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

I'm with CB on this one
I know there's a master fixture list and as MR2 will say if you've nothing to do volunteer yourself ( and I get that ) but common sense has to prevail here
Push the reserve final back 90 minutes double header in dunsilly
Maybe it's not practical I don't know but....

But perhaps the could have considered all options....


I thought Thursday night was already a double header at Dunsilly with Glenavy in the reserve shield final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 10:33:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 02, 2022, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

I'm with CB on this one
I know there's a master fixture list and as MR2 will say if you've nothing to do volunteer yourself ( and I get that ) but common sense has to prevail here
Push the reserve final back 90 minutes double header in dunsilly
Maybe it's not practical I don't know but....

But perhaps the could have considered all options....

Maybe there will be some flexibility- the situation on Cargin being in both finals only arose after last nights semi finals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 03, 2022, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

But perhaps the could have considered all options....

It seems like the football world revolves around Cargin! Such rubbish is being penned on here. Remember there are two teams in the final! Seems like the discussion is about getting as big a crowd from Cargin along to support. What about GNM. Perhaps one of their many club teams is playing that night - after all they are participating in all codes and all levels. The date for the final was fixed months ago, all teams were aware when they entered the competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 03, 2022, 09:54:13 AM
Don't think anyone is claiming football revolves around Cargin Pjoe. Understandable supporters and family's would not want to chose between which family member and team to watch. I'm sure a solution can be found. Bit pointless stating '*perhaps* one of GNM's many teams have another game'. Do they or not? Cargin do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 03, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 03, 2022, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

But perhaps the could have considered all options....

It seems like the football world revolves around Cargin! Such rubbish is being penned on here. Remember there are two teams in the final! Seems like the discussion is about getting as big a crowd from Cargin along to support. What about GNM. Perhaps one of their many club teams is playing that night - after all they are participating in all codes and all levels. The date for the final was fixed months ago, all teams were aware when they entered the competition.

Feck all to with revolving around cargin, I'm not a cargin man far from it but just think it's only fair supporters can follow both teams if possible. Consult GNM first of course, and Creggan, then if they're happy there is plenty that can be done to accommodate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 03, 2022, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 03, 2022, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 02, 2022, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on September 02, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
Yes they should have had the foresight to know that Cargin would reach both these finals

But perhaps the could have considered all options....

It seems like the football world revolves around Cargin! Such rubbish is being penned on here. Remember there are two teams in the final! Seems like the discussion is about getting as big a crowd from Cargin along to support. What about GNM. Perhaps one of their many club teams is playing that night - after all they are participating in all codes and all levels. The date for the final was fixed months ago, all teams were aware when they entered the competition.
Not one clue do you have Pjoe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2022, 04:56:56 PM
So Cargin under 15 side following a semi final win gained over Ardoyne will be on their way up the M2 again on Thursday night for their final at Glengormley....

Senior reserves will be in Ahoghill the same evening...

Bravo CCC.....not a clue and the Gorts who seem not to like country air...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2022, 08:48:40 PM
The Gorts having to sample the country air in senior championship agains the mighty pg1
All the quarter finals in Country ? ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2022, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2022, 08:48:40 PM
The Gorts having to sample the country air in senior championship agains the mighty pg1
All the quarter finals in Country ? ?

Must be a fear of water then.....they did not turn up for the league under 15 league game at Toome.
But not the only side from your neck of the woods who didn't show......water issues all round....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2022, 09:15:43 PM
O right that explains why the quarters are in the country the !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 03, 2022, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2022, 09:15:43 PM
O right that explains why the quarters are in the country the !
Quarters are where the gate receipts offer more promise....the biggest gate may well be up your way at Hightown.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2022, 09:32:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 03, 2022, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 03, 2022, 09:15:43 PM
O right that explains why the quarters are in the country the !
Quarters are where the gate receipts offer more promise....the biggest gate may well be up your way at Hightown.....
corrigan ? Bigger capacity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2022, 02:45:35 PM
Was pleased to attend the launch earlier today of the Antrim cup for schools. A great initiative from Paddy Kelly (games development officer) led out by Gael fast, supported by county management committee as well as invaluable funding from Saffron Business Forum. It's a pilot case this year (think there's about 20 schools entered) and will roll out next year to ladies football and camogie if all goes well.

Congratulations to all involved, Mackers for excellent hosting, and contributions from Peter Finn, Gearoid, Sean Mc Gourty and the impressive Neil Mc Manus, followed by Ciaran Mc Cavanagh in closing remarks and official launch.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 07, 2022, 02:53:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 07, 2022, 02:45:35 PM
Was pleased to attend the launch earlier today of the Antrim cup for schools. A great initiative from Paddy Kelly (games development officer) led out by Gael fast, supported by county management committee as well as invaluable funding from Saffron Business Forum. It's a pilot case this year (think there's about 20 schools entered) and will roll out next year to ladies football and camogie if all goes well.

Congratulations to all involved, Mackers for excellent hosting, and contributions from Peter Finn, Gearoid, Sean Mc Gourty and the impressive Neil Mc Manus, followed by Ciaran Mc Cavanagh in closing remarks and official launch.




Excelllent stuff it'll be great to see this be a success well done to all involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 07, 2022, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 07, 2022, 02:45:35 PM
Was pleased to attend the launch earlier today of the Antrim cup for schools. A great initiative from Paddy Kelly (games development officer) led out by Gael fast, supported by county management committee as well as invaluable funding from Saffron Business Forum. It's a pilot case this year (think there's about 20 schools entered) and will roll out next year to ladies football and camogie if all goes well.

Congratulations to all involved, Mackers for excellent hosting, and contributions from Peter Finn, Gearoid, Sean Mc Gourty and the impressive Neil Mc Manus, followed by Ciaran Mc Cavanagh in closing remarks and official launch.
Great to see, has to be a good thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 07, 2022, 08:39:16 PM
Great to see Gaelfast into secondary schools now . I always said it pointless just being primary schools . Mayb they are reading this board !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2022, 11:30:42 AM
Excitement building towards another championship weekend in all grades, starting with a belter in Dunsilly tomorrow night between genuine contenders LD and a Cargin team who know what it takes at this stage of the year. 8 will soon become 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 08, 2022, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 08, 2022, 11:30:42 AM
Excitement building towards another championship weekend in all grades, starting with a belter in Dunsilly tomorrow night between genuine contenders LD and a Cargin team who know what it takes at this stage of the year. 8 will soon become 4.

The winners of this game will surely be favourites to lift the trophy.

Expect Lamh Dhearg to give Cargin their fill of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 08, 2022, 01:09:41 PM
Normal game between Cargin and Ld then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 08, 2022, 02:26:09 PM
Quote from: Caesar on September 08, 2022, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 08, 2022, 11:30:42 AM
Excitement building towards another championship weekend in all grades, starting with a belter in Dunsilly tomorrow night between genuine contenders LD and a Cargin team who know what it takes at this stage of the year. 8 will soon become 4.

The winners of this game will surely be favourites to lift the trophy.

Expect Lamh Dhearg to give Cargin their fill of it.

Can't see anyone looking past Kickhams just yet.
If Cargin put in a show like they did against Rossa it could be a long winter around Toome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2022, 02:38:38 PM
People always underestimate Rossa at home when they have a full squad. Not sure why they don't seem to replicate this so often when they aren't playing at home, but I saw that one as a 50/50 at the time and wasn't in the least bit surprised at the result.

In the same way I'd fancy Cargin by 4 or 5 out in the country or a neutral venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 08, 2022, 03:02:52 PM
I'd agree there BS I seen it like that myself. What about GNM do you think there's a danger these games won't help your chances in the long run.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2022, 03:49:44 PM
Whether we win by a point or by ten points there's a cohort of people who think it wont matter anyway as we are still a good bit off winning the Mc Namee.

We won't underestimate GNM, they finished strongly in the league and JMK will ensure that players treat them with every bit as much respect as the team we may get in the semis if we play the way we can.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 08, 2022, 04:15:45 PM
Jez, man, catch yourself on. They are a very poor team. A dead rubber.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 08, 2022, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 08, 2022, 03:49:44 PM
Whether we win by a point or by ten points there's a cohort of people who think it wont matter anyway as we are still a good bit off winning the Mc Namee.

We won't underestimate GNM, they finished strongly in the league and JMK will ensure that players treat them with every bit as much respect as the team we may get in the semis if we play the way we can.
You have talked your team up since March, no harm in that. The question wasn't will you respect GNM, course you will. It was do you think this and the next game are putting you at a slight disadvantage? In my opinion it does.
You know from being about teams and watching sport games like this wont be helping. No offence to Gort Na Mona (a lot of respect for them) but they are no where near the level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2022, 04:39:48 PM
I don't know is the honest answer EOC. To mould a team a coach likes to learn how to win in different ways.

It's a great feeling to win a really ugly game by a point, like we did against Ahoghill earlier in the year. A real battle, not pretty football by any stretch, but just knowing how to get over the line no matter what it takes. Great for team morale.

A landslide win is also good. You're getting the team working together throughout the field, learning to link up, and running at pace through the middle finishing up in scores on the board. Good for team confidence, even if it's a challenge game. Again good for morale.

Every game throws a unique situation you need to deal with. GNM will present their challenge and we need to deal with it. I might offend one or two when I say I don't think there's any wonder teams around anymore and any team let's their guard slip atm will be punished.

If we want a tough challenge we don't have to go far to get one, we've played top teams in Derry and Tyrone, so we have an idea where we are at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
This weekends result will shed done light on things. There's some cracking games on, no one involved will actually fear anyone else, I expect a few crackers, and if anyone wins by big scores they are making a statement.

Our senior championship has got very competitive imo and the intermediate is also going to take a bit of winning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 08, 2022, 04:55:37 PM
Cargin 8/11 tomorrow is a great price, I can't see LD sticking with them for 60 mins.

Not much value around in the other games, pg1 1/16 is a crazy price for a quarter final game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 09, 2022, 08:18:06 AM
The question now is......will there be a minutes silence before the game tonight...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2022, 10:28:22 AM
Great comeback by cargin u15s last night in B final
3-4 to 0-0 down at HT they hit 1-11 to no score in second half
Not even a breeze in the place either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 09, 2022, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2022, 10:28:22 AM
Great comeback by cargin u15s last night in B final
3-4 to 0-0 down at HT they hit 1-11 to no score in second half
Not even a breeze in the place either

Saw it myself.

Gorts had a great 1st half, it just looked like they didn't have the belief that they could beat cargin.

The rain didn't help them as they were a much smaller team but credit to cargin who seemed to find energy and determination that they didn't have in the first half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
Strange bit of reporting on the reserve final in Ahoghill where Creggan proved too strong for Cargin. "It was end to end stuff as both teams chased the first silverware of the season"...

Found that really odd tbh.

Elsewhere that excellent crop coming through that we spoke of previously at St Brigid's ran away with under 15 A. Congratulations to them and also to Cargin on B final victory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 09, 2022, 11:12:22 AM
First blood to our res seniors yesterday evening. Momentum starting to build nicely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:38:40 AM
Two important pieces of silverware in the bag DK. You're not going away anytime soon! Big push on now for the treble?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 09, 2022, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
Strange bit of reporting on the reserve final in Ahoghill where Creggan proved too strong for Cargin. "It was end to end stuff as both teams chased the first silverware of the season"...

Found that really odd tbh.

Elsewhere that excellent crop coming through that we spoke of previously at St Brigid's ran away with under 15 A. Congratulations to them and also to Cargin on B final victory.

Certainly wasn't end to end stuff. Poor game, Cargin stayed in the dressing rooms for the second half, goals win games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 09, 2022, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:38:40 AM
Two important pieces of silverware in the bag DK. You're not going away anytime soon! Big push on now for the treble?


BS there is only one cup that matters. But the others do help to copper fasten our belief  in ourselves. A critical aspect which we hadn't enough of previously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 09, 2022, 11:59:54 AM
Predictions for SFC

LD will give Cargin their fill tonight but just going to edge Cargin by 1/2.
PG1 by 15
Aghagallon/brids be close but fancy st marys by 2/3
Creggan would have needed to have improved massively from Johnnies game or else they could be caught on the hop. Expect them to win though, too good of a panel at their disposal. Creggan by 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 09, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
to win
LD
SARSFIELDS
DAVITTS
PORTS
ST MARYS
ALDERGROVE
BALLYMENA
CREGGAN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 09, 2022, 01:40:43 PM
SFC predictions
Cargin v Lamh Dhearg-this one going the distance could well take extra time to separate.Cargin by 1

Pg1 v gorts-easy win ports 10+

Aghagallon v St Brigids-biddies by 2

Rossa v Creggan-Creggan by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 09, 2022, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
Strange bit of reporting on the reserve final in Ahoghill where Creggan proved too strong for Cargin. "It was end to end stuff as both teams chased the first silverware of the season"...

Found that really odd tbh.

Elsewhere that excellent crop coming through that we spoke of previously at St Brigid's ran away with under 15 A. Congratulations to them and also to Cargin on B final victory.
How many of these 'excellent crops' do St Brigids need before they get a decent senior team. Seem to be unbeatable at U16/U15 level then fall to an arse after that. Maybe it will be different this time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2022, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 09, 2022, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
Strange bit of reporting on the reserve final in Ahoghill where Creggan proved too strong for Cargin. "It was end to end stuff as both teams chased the first silverware of the season"...

Found that really odd tbh.

Elsewhere that excellent crop coming through that we spoke of previously at St Brigid's ran away with under 15 A. Congratulations to them and also to Cargin on B final victory.
How many of these 'excellent crops' do St Brigids need before they get a decent senior team. Seem to be unbeatable at U16/U15 level then fall to an arse after that. Maybe it will be different this time


A gather up if never there was one. Theme on the other side of Mallusk.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 09, 2022, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2022, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 09, 2022, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
Strange bit of reporting on the reserve final in Ahoghill where Creggan proved too strong for Cargin. "It was end to end stuff as both teams chased the first silverware of the season"...

Found that really odd tbh.

Elsewhere that excellent crop coming through that we spoke of previously at St Brigid's ran away with under 15 A. Congratulations to them and also to Cargin on B final victory.
How many of these 'excellent crops' do St Brigids need before they get a decent senior team. Seem to be unbeatable at U16/U15 level then fall to an arse after that. Maybe it will be different this time


A gather up if never there was one. Theme on the other side of Mallusk.

A gather-up of what? Such tripe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 09, 2022, 09:30:30 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 09, 2022, 11:12:22 AM
First blood to our res seniors yesterday evening. Momentum starting to build nicely.

First blood D K...?
Think Cargin reserves had already taken the league as have the minors.....so 3rd blood.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 09, 2022, 09:31:59 PM
Good performance tonight from our lads, venue very good under lights have to say. Some very peculiar refereeing at times (though not biased). Onto the winners of Rossa v Creggan hopefully not too many injuries.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 09, 2022, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on September 09, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
to win
LD
SARSFIELDS
DAVITTS
PORTS
ST MARYS
ALDERGROVE
BALLYMENA
CREGGAN

Took your tip and had a bet on Cargin at 6/4 minus a point....
Always bet with your head......not your heart....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2022, 09:50:53 PM
Good pace to the game and Cargin won a bit handier than the four point margin. Great performances from John Carron and Kobo to stifle Marc and Ryan, and you can see the difference Mick and James Laverty make. Sean O Neill a class act too. Will take a good team to beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 09, 2022, 11:22:26 PM
Be no Belfast teams in the semi finals this year.  When was the last time that happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on September 09, 2022, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 09, 2022, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2022, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 09, 2022, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
Strange bit of reporting on the reserve final in Ahoghill where Creggan proved too strong for Cargin. "It was end to end stuff as both teams chased the first silverware of the season"...

Found that really odd tbh.

Elsewhere that excellent crop coming through that we spoke of previously at St Brigid's ran away with under 15 A. Congratulations to them and also to Cargin on B final victory.
How many of these 'excellent crops' do St Brigids need before they get a decent senior team. Seem to be unbeatable at U16/U15 level then fall to an arse after that. Maybe it will be different this time


A gather up if never there was one. Theme on the other side of Mallusk.

A gather-up of what? Such tripe

What exactly does a gather up mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 09, 2022, 11:32:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 09, 2022, 11:22:26 PM
Be no Belfast teams in the semi finals this year.  When was the last time that happened?

Last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 09, 2022, 11:43:42 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 10, 2022, 04:12:22 AM
We haven't gone away you know!!  cargin doing grand take a quare team to beat us too, good luck to rest of teams this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 10, 2022, 07:28:32 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 09, 2022, 11:32:06 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 09, 2022, 11:22:26 PM
Be no Belfast teams in the semi finals this year.  When was the last time that happened?

Last year.

Exactly. The city needs a revamp.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2022, 07:53:54 AM
Very premature though to make a prediction that none of the three city clubs still involved will make it through to the semis. Still a lot of football to be played!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2022, 06:26:31 PM
Looks handy enough for portglenone as expected.

Surprisingly easy win for sarsfields against St. Paul's and I thought that glenavy would beat davitts but three point win for davitts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 10, 2022, 06:28:10 PM
A handy enough outing for Pearses in the JFC v The Aggies. Always on top.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2022, 06:38:23 PM
That should be a tight enough junior final now with Eire og. Pearses have come on a lot this last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 10, 2022, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2022, 06:38:23 PM
That should be a tight enough junior final now with Eire og. Pearses have come on a lot this last few years.
Eire Og beat LLL in qtr final ,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 10, 2022, 06:45:18 PM
Semi finals to come
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2022, 07:31:24 PM
Oops I thought it was semi finals.

Ah top of group must make semis then two quarter finals like the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2022, 08:18:46 PM
Fair play to Gorts, they hung in for a long time and never threw in the towel. We struggled to shake then off, but got there in the end. Looking forward to some cracking games tomorrow. Con Magees v Ballymena a tasty looking tie, that's an old rivalry that hasn't gone away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2022, 08:46:28 PM
Sure, we weren't firing on full cylinders today, but offer us a dozen point win before the game and we would have taken your arm off. That's us not firing. When we do we won't be far away.

In our 4th semi final in a row and there's still plenty who dont rate us. You're  not on your own, so that's ok. All about opinions. Who do you fancy yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 10, 2022, 10:21:35 PM
Was at the PG1 game they played what was in front of them and no great fuss.
A 12 point championship victory would be pleasing enough with plenty left in the tank.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2022, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 10, 2022, 08:22:43 PM
Surely BS will wind his neck in a bit,if pg1 hadve been playing any off the other teams tonight in the quarter final,they'd be heading home tail between the legs,brutal stuff,looked total clueless against an intermediate team

It ain't Portglenones fault the way the draw pans out
Can only beat whats there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 10, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
No stand out team in the championship yet. Wide open.

Pg1 will make the final as we know.

Who will join them?

Wide open. 4 still in with a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 11, 2022, 12:06:20 AM
If PG1 are 'already in the final' then how can 4 teams be in with a chance of joining them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 11, 2022, 07:23:25 AM
Quote from: breakingball on September 10, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
No stand out team in the championship yet. Wide open.

Pg1 will make the final as we know.

Who will join them?

Wide open. 4 still in with a chance.
Step away from the phone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 11, 2022, 07:25:08 AM

I suspect I he meant Rossa, Creggan and Cargin on the other side of the draw

No need to always try and make someone look silly Brendan
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 11, 2022, 07:23:25 AM
Quote from: breakingball on September 10, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
No stand out team in the championship yet. Wide open.

Pg1 will make the final as we know.

Who will join them?

Wide open. 4 still in with a chance.
Step away from the phone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2022, 07:55:48 AM
It will all be sorted between the white lines, not on gaaboard. Cargin timing their run well, a noticeable step up in performance on Friday night, let's see what the remaining four can bring today. Still a lot of football to be played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 11, 2022, 09:18:02 AM
PG1 getting to final with their flip flops on can't b right lads . Seeded draw on league positions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 11, 2022, 09:18:02 AM
PG1 getting to final with their flip flops on can't b right lads . Seeded draw on league positions

Have got to agree the seeding system has most certainly requiring overhaul and the easy passage to date may well come back to haunt PG1.
Despite individuals saying 'no big teams' now and parity is evidence such is argument to an open draw.
Await to see proof of such and do suggest that a former winner of the senior title is likely to wear another crown this year....

Have been known to be wrong before but wait to be convinced......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 11, 2022, 09:39:20 AM
St brigids and st marys are 2 decent teams lads.

Will PG1 be favorites to get to the final? Probably.

Are they that much better than the other 2? Absolutely not.

All 3 very evenly matched IMO. All will have making the final in their sights.

Not a forgone conclusion as many on here seem to think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 11, 2022, 10:00:35 AM
Looking forward to Creggan/rossa today.

Rossa showed v Cargin they are in the mix this year, it will take an excellent team to beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2022, 11:03:39 AM
Interesting! Time will tell...looking forward to two cracking games today. On paper two close looking games, let's see if anyone emerges with a big statement to the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 11, 2022, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: referee on September 11, 2022, 10:25:07 AM
I agree with hoof,pg1can only beat what's in front off you,cargin didn't have too many hard games last year up to the semi,were able to blood alot off young players, wasn't a word about seeding then, still think it'll be cargin v aghagalloon/St Brigid's in n the final
St Johns we're in Cargins group last year. Then played St Galls in the Quarter final, you haven't a clue mate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 11, 2022, 12:55:59 PM
Hopefully someone keeps a close eye on the amount of subs brought on, I hear there was a bit of counting trouble at the Creggan St Johns game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 01:02:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 11, 2022, 12:55:59 PM
Hopefully someone keeps a close eye on the amount of subs brought on, I hear there wa

s a bit of counting trouble at the Creggan St Johns game.

But surely the Row man and his ever bodyguard assistants did not make  mistake......no chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2022, 02:42:01 PM
Aghagallon made a big statement there to be fair. A seven point win. Some turnaround from earlier season form, they will arrive in the semis in confident mode. Game on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 11, 2022, 03:24:26 PM
Best team wins the championship whatever the format.

Cargin will be everyone's favourites at this stage, but I've a sneaky suspicion portglenone could pip them. They are ticking along very nicely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
Impressed with Aghagallon today.....PG1will need to really need to be prepared for a stiff test....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2022, 03:36:09 PM
Big win for Glenravel in horrible weather.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2022, 03:36:59 PM
Ballymena shit the nest again. They really should have winning the intermediate championship this year. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2022, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2022, 03:36:59 PM
Ballymena shit the nest again. They really should have winning the intermediate championship this year.

To be honest, Glenravel gave them no respect and no time to settle.

Great game as a neutral.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 04:03:19 PM
Horrible conditions up at Hightown....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 04:20:13 PM
Creggan lead by a goal at h/t ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2022, 04:32:24 PM
This Rossa Creggan game is nearly unplayable in these conditions.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2022, 04:36:50 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 11, 2022, 02:42:01 PM
Aghagallon made a big statement there to be fair. A seven point win. Some turnaround from earlier season form, they will arrive in the semis in confident mode. Game on.

Our best performance this year. As close to a full team as we've had all year too as well. Saying that I thought St. Brigid's were terrible! The really don't seem to like championship football. They're doing great things at underage though so I'm sure they'll be about for a while yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2022, 05:04:58 PM
Another Barron year in the senior championship for the city.

When is the time to start panicking? They are falling further and further behind the country boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2022, 05:14:19 PM
The big 4 back in the semis then 😜

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2022, 05:23:39 PM
Same semi final pairings as last year. Mc Namee coming countryside one more time...the question is, where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2022, 05:26:47 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 11, 2022, 05:20:40 PM
PG1 will be out for blood after being cheated in last year's semi final. Bring Frank!

He's been banned! Not a good omen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 05:36:26 PM
Am sure Cargin will look forward to the appointment of the same ref who had charge of their 2021 semi....or perhaps they just won't show up....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 11, 2022, 05:41:59 PM
The two beaten semi finalists last year feel aggrieved for differing reasons, would not be surprised to see both overturn last years results this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 11, 2022, 06:55:36 PM
Creggan and Cargin promises to be another battle royale with PG1 lying in wait. Reading on here last night that PG1 werent that impressive but still managed to win by 12. Ideal prep for them. They have been preparing for 1 game all year and Ive a feeling this will be their year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 07:02:23 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 11, 2022, 06:55:36 PM
Creggan and Cargin promises to be another battle royale with PG1 lying in wait. Reading on here last night that PG1 werent that impressive but still managed to win by 12. Ideal prep for them. They have been preparing for 1 game all year and Ive a feeling this will be their year.

So St Mary's have left the stage.....why..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 11, 2022, 07:14:32 PM
Seemed to have went backwards this year? In a relegation dog fight still. Tho im sure they might ask PG1 for a replay if they are beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2022, 07:19:41 PM
What's the intermediate semi final  pairings ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2022, 07:20:35 PM
Hopefully they won't take cargin and Creggan to Hightown again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2022, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2022, 07:19:41 PM
What's the intermediate semi final  pairings ?

Sarfields vs Glenravel
Davitts vs Dunloy

Tough to call as well, Sarfields vs Dunloy might be the final. 

Dunloy have been to a few finals over the years but just come up short.

Sarfields seem to be going well so will highly fancy landing an intermediate the year as well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 11, 2022, 07:41:23 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2022, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2022, 07:19:41 PM
What's the intermediate semi final  pairings ?

Sarfields vs Glenravel
Davitts vs Dunloy

Tough to call as well, Sarfields vs Dunloy might be the final. 

Dunloy have been to a few finals over the years but just come up short.

Sarfields seem to be going well so will highly fancy landing an intermediate the year as well

Fair play to glenravel, not that long ago they were in the junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2022, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 07:02:23 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 11, 2022, 06:55:36 PM
Creggan and Cargin promises to be another battle royale with PG1 lying in wait. Reading on here last night that PG1 werent that impressive but still managed to win by 12. Ideal prep for them. They have been preparing for 1 game all year and Ive a feeling this will be their year.

So St Mary's have left the stage.....why..?

Will you be on the line for the semi final or have you been banned like 'Aghagallon Frank' has from the other semi final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 11, 2022, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2022, 07:20:35 PM
Hopefully they won't take cargin and Creggan to Hightown again
Dunsilly surely to god.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 11, 2022, 08:18:09 PM
Can't be giving abuse to referees and expect to be allowed inside the wire. Isn't that right JS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 11, 2022, 08:57:54 PM
Surely Dunsilly would be the perfect venue for both semi finals but God only knows what our CCC will do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2022, 09:12:47 PM
All 6 semis on at the same time possibly..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2022, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 11, 2022, 08:57:54 PM
Surely Dunsilly would be the perfect venue for both semi finals but God only knows what our CCC will do

Hear the CCC are about to.take your considered advice....LnaP........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 11, 2022, 10:11:23 PM
Intermediate semi finals on before both senior semi finals Sat&Sun
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 12, 2022, 08:57:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 11, 2022, 08:18:09 PM
Can't be giving abuse to referees and expect to be allowed inside the wire. Isn't that right JS?

Was this Friday nights game? Heard there was a bit of verbals towards the ref in dunsilly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 12, 2022, 09:52:23 AM
Surely not, was it from the LD contingent?

While I thought the ref had an ok game when he was bad he was equally as bad to both teams if that makes sense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2022, 09:59:24 AM
Allegedly Stiffler...that's the word on the street anyway....can't be sure......let's wait and see......time will tell.... apparently from the winning camp too Whist...

Agree, ref got a few wrong here and there, but it balanced out overall. Wouldn't have been an easy game to do, I thought he handled it well enough overall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 12, 2022, 10:38:25 AM
I heard a man lost control of himself and caused a bit of a scene.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 12, 2022, 10:50:49 AM
Does anyone know this man or is he a nomad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 12, 2022, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 12, 2022, 09:59:24 AM
Allegedly Stiffler...that's the word on the street anyway....can't be sure......let's wait and see......time will tell.... apparently from the winning camp too Whist...

Agree, ref got a few wrong here and there, but it balanced out overall. Wouldn't have been an easy game to do, I thought he handled it well enough overall.
The winning camp were all in a circle players and management as the officials left the pitch. Not much truth in that one BS.
The referee made some strange calls for both teams but it hardly gave rise for anyone to mention it afterwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 12, 2022, 11:01:53 AM
Unsure if some people on here are playing a game or genuinely believe this will be PG1's year, but quick reminder that they are playing the team that dumped them out last year.
Any talk of PG1 expected to make the final is premature and Aghagallon are rubbing their hands!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2022, 11:16:33 AM
In the true interests of sport Caesar, bring it on. Nothing wrong with two camps going into a game brimming with confidence. You can be sure no one will underestimate the other, let's put it that way. The events of last year add a bit of spice alright, but that wasn't the fault of any player, it was a monumental c**k up by an experienced county official.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 12, 2022, 11:27:55 AM
I am seeing a lot of noise on Twitter as to the Creggan v Rossa game and the fact it went a head in the second half.

From the live stream it looked like some areas of the pitch were worse than others, anyone at the game got any thoughts. Also I did hear last night Rossa took no issue with the pitch until they were 4/5 points down, Karol Doc would have been a brave man to call the game off at that point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 12, 2022, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 12, 2022, 10:38:25 AM
I heard a man lost control of himself and caused a bit of a scene.

First time that ref been appointed for  a Cargin came and although he did make a couple of mistakes he carried no baggage and did well...

Saw nobody making approach to the officials leaving the ground and not coincidental those who would point fingers.

Seems St Mary's have regained the positive trail.and they may well be in pursuit of another final appearance...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 12, 2022, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 12, 2022, 11:16:33 AM
In the true interests of sport Caesar, bring it on. Nothing wrong with two camps going into a game brimming with confidence. You can be sure no one will underestimate the other, let's put it that way. The events of last year add a bit of spice alright, but that wasn't the fault of any player, it was a monumental c**k up by an experienced county official.

What was the monumental c*ck up last year out of interest? Another period of et agreed by both teams rather than the lottery of a penalty shootout?

Interesting take on monumental c*ck ups if that is what indeed u are referring to? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 12, 2022, 04:45:31 PM
I reserve the right of no reply. You'd have far too much experience for me Ghost tbh with that level of debate. Will gladly give that one a miss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Both semis surely be at Dunsilly you'd think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 12, 2022, 05:02:09 PM
Creggan/Cargin @5 on Saturday 24th in Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 12, 2022, 05:05:52 PM
Any date for the relegation playoff with Ballymena and Aghagallon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 12, 2022, 08:04:28 PM
Any word on the other semi?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 12, 2022, 05:02:09 PM
Creggan/Cargin @5 on Saturday 24th in Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 12, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 12, 2022, 08:04:28 PM
Any word on the other semi?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1



link=topic=21.msg2149416#msg2149416 date=1662998529
Creggan/Cargin @5 on Saturday 24th in Dunsilly



Sunday @5 in Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 13, 2022, 09:05:34 AM
will be a cargin - pg1 final with CB, EOC and BS all just enjoying the occasion no matter the result!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 13, 2022, 09:54:47 AM
Cheers Lar, apologies I did not see the bottom line first time

Any one have any details on intermediate?

Quote from: belfastsaff on September 13, 2022, 09:05:34 AM
will be a cargin - pg1 final with CB, EOC and BS all just enjoying the occasion no matter the result!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2022, 10:25:20 AM
Bro in law saying Glenravel V Sarsfields on the 24th at 1pm in Dunsilly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2022, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2022, 10:25:20 AM
Bro in law saying Glenravel V Sarsfields on the 24th at 1pm in Dunsilly.

I'm assuming it's 2 separate gates then judging by the time differences
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 13, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
Money racket as usual with the county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2022, 11:30:12 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2022, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2022, 10:25:20 AM
Bro in law saying Glenravel V Sarsfields on the 24th at 1pm in Dunsilly.

I'm assuming it's 2 separate gates then judging by the time differences

Seems so!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2022, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 13, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
Money racket as usual with the county board.

I'm for a derry double header on Saturday evening
8 quid for 2 senior matches - these will likely be 8 each, maybe more for the senior match as the 1/4 final was 8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 13, 2022, 01:34:58 PM
Noticed they've done the same for the hurling semis on Sunday, 1 and 5 at Dunsilly, id have went to this if was a double header 2 and 4 or something, clearly trying to get the ££££££ up make sure everyone cleared out before the 2nd game. id say even if it was £12 for a double header lot of people would have took in both games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 13, 2022, 02:09:28 PM
There no chance people will wait about from about 12.30 to possibly 6.30, used to be great going to a double header in championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on September 13, 2022, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 13, 2022, 02:09:28 PM
There no chance people will wait about from about 12.30 to possibly 6.30, used to be great going to a double header in championship

Yeah thats what im saying, they are actively discouraging people from going to both games, you'd look past the time between the games if Dif venues and trying to allow people time to get between them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 13, 2022, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 13, 2022, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 13, 2022, 02:09:28 PM
There no chance people will wait about from about 12.30 to possibly 6.30, used to be great going to a double header in championship

Yeah thats what im saying, they are actively discouraging people from going to both games, you'd look past the time between the games if Dif venues and trying to allow people time to get between them.

Not sure Dunsilly has the facilities or space around the ground to deal with the crowd at a Double header?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 13, 2022, 03:09:26 PM
Play one at Dunsilly and then maybe one at Whitehill or somewhere

Quote from: delgany on September 13, 2022, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 13, 2022, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 13, 2022, 02:09:28 PM
There no chance people will wait about from about 12.30 to possibly 6.30, used to be great going to a double header in championship

Yeah thats what im saying, they are actively discouraging people from going to both games, you'd look past the time between the games if Dif venues and trying to allow people time to get between them.

Not sure Dunsilly has the facilities or space around the ground to deal with the crowd at a Double header?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2022, 03:13:20 PM
Get more neutrals if they charged say a tenner for double header
No neutral is going to spend 16+ quid and the guts of 6 hours at dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 13, 2022, 08:51:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 13, 2022, 07:43:37 PM
The same boy who pays the manager, perhaps?

He hits it out of the park!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2022, 09:40:13 PM
Plenty of good club men would sponsor it also I'm sure.

Speedy recovery to Michael Armstrong who done his ACL on Sunday past. Huge loss for Rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 14, 2022, 08:37:59 AM
I'm sure CCC (competition control committee) looked at various options for single or double headers with logistics.

Dunsilly turning into a superb venue (lighting and scoreboard since last year) but would struggle from holding a double header for various reasons. Stewarding of a match could take up to 4 hours for St Comghalls club volunteers, throw in an extra match and this could be 7 or 8 hours!

Parking - it's a tight venue to get cars in and out and many attending first game will want to leave and this would clash with cars arriving early for those only interested in second game. That would be a nightmare!

Dressing rooms - there's only 4 small rooms, two per team. Teams can arrive an hour before and still be there an hour after games.

You only need to think things through a bit more to see things a bit more clearly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 09:50:51 AM
Don't let the quite obvious hatred for all things Cargin which TyrDub has cloud the potential reasons for it being difficult, surprised a ref can come on here and be so hostile to the club after being on a line in a high profile game no less than a week ago involving this team 

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 09:50:51 AM
Don't let the quite obvious hatred for all things Cargin which TyrDub has cloud the potential reasons for it being difficult, surprised a ref can come on here and be so hostile to the club after being on a line in a high profile game no less than a week ago involving this team 

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.

Whoa whoa lad, take it down a notch. I'm only commenting on the argument about travelling from Toome to Mallusk. I never said it wasn't difficult, I did say though that another team travelled the same sort of distance for a game starting 15 minutes earlier. Far from hostile methinks.

And for the record, I certainly have zero hatred for Cargin, that's all in your head lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 14, 2022, 10:13:34 AM
Definitely seems to be an anti cargin agenda on this board probably based on jealously, no disrespect to anyone but if you really think cargin have been paying managers vast amounts of money you would need to think again including Mr Cassidy,it would be a team 5 miles away do things like that, slap bang in middle of a rebuild on and off the park cargin can't afford to be paying managers, trainers, S&C coaches medical team and nutritionists, we look forward to next Saturday in hope it won't be easy trying to beat the county champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
You took you chance to try and have a sly dig and now you are back tracking when called out for it..................have the conviction to stand over your remarks and sentiment


Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 09:50:51 AM
Don't let the quite obvious hatred for all things Cargin which TyrDub has cloud the potential reasons for it being difficult, surprised a ref can come on here and be so hostile to the club after being on a line in a high profile game no less than a week ago involving this team 

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.

Whoa whoa lad, take it down a notch. I'm only commenting on the argument about travelling from Toome to Mallusk. I never said it wasn't difficult, I did say though that another team travelled the same sort of distance for a game starting 15 minutes earlier. Far from hostile methinks.

And for the record, I certainly have zero hatred for Cargin, that's all in your head lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
You took you chance to try and have a sly dig and now you are back tracking when called out for it..................have the conviction to stand over your remarks and sentiment


Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 09:50:51 AM
Don't let the quite obvious hatred for all things Cargin which TyrDub has cloud the potential reasons for it being difficult, surprised a ref can come on here and be so hostile to the club after being on a line in a high profile game no less than a week ago involving this team 

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.

Whoa whoa lad, take it down a notch. I'm only commenting on the argument about travelling from Toome to Mallusk. I never said it wasn't difficult, I did say though that another team travelled the same sort of distance for a game starting 15 minutes earlier. Far from hostile methinks.

And for the record, I certainly have zero hatred for Cargin, that's all in your head lad

I haven't backtracked over anything, I do still find it weird that 1 club (any club) can complain about travelling to a match when another club did something similar with zero complaints. Why not just turn up play the match as directed?

Would you ever whist lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 10:35:08 AM
Yeah yeah, one foot out there and straight back in with both again

Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
You took you chance to try and have a sly dig and now you are back tracking when called out for it..................have the conviction to stand over your remarks and sentiment


Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 09:50:51 AM
Don't let the quite obvious hatred for all things Cargin which TyrDub has cloud the potential reasons for it being difficult, surprised a ref can come on here and be so hostile to the club after being on a line in a high profile game no less than a week ago involving this team 

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.

Whoa whoa lad, take it down a notch. I'm only commenting on the argument about travelling from Toome to Mallusk. I never said it wasn't difficult, I did say though that another team travelled the same sort of distance for a game starting 15 minutes earlier. Far from hostile methinks.

And for the record, I certainly have zero hatred for Cargin, that's all in your head lad

I haven't backtracked over anything, I do still find it weird that 1 club (any club) can complain about travelling to a match when another club did something similar with zero complaints. Why not just turn up play the match as directed?

Would you ever whist lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 10:35:08 AM
Yeah yeah, one foot out there and straight back in with both again

Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
You took you chance to try and have a sly dig and now you are back tracking when called out for it..................have the conviction to stand over your remarks and sentiment


Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 14, 2022, 09:50:51 AM
Don't let the quite obvious hatred for all things Cargin which TyrDub has cloud the potential reasons for it being difficult, surprised a ref can come on here and be so hostile to the club after being on a line in a high profile game no less than a week ago involving this team 

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 13, 2022, 06:31:06 PM
So not having had a fixture for weeks in u-20 league Cargin are fixed to travel to Musgrave for a 6.15 pm throw in...

Who is paying for the helicopter....?

Was at an U16 Girls football championship match in St Endas last night, 6.00pm start, versus Ballymena!!! No complaints from any of the mummys and daddys who drove their kids to the game.

What seems to be the problem travelling from Toome?

Maybe none of the players working? Maybe Mummys and Daddys working from home and can be away on time.

Whoa whoa lad, take it down a notch. I'm only commenting on the argument about travelling from Toome to Mallusk. I never said it wasn't difficult, I did say though that another team travelled the same sort of distance for a game starting 15 minutes earlier. Far from hostile methinks.

And for the record, I certainly have zero hatred for Cargin, that's all in your head lad

I haven't backtracked over anything, I do still find it weird that 1 club (any club) can complain about travelling to a match when another club did something similar with zero complaints. Why not just turn up play the match as directed?

Would you ever whist lad

whatever you think lad but my stance hasn't changed.

1 question...are you turning up to play the match or not?

Here's the reason why I think it's weird 1 club complains whilst another doesn't...Moneyglass are at the same venue tonight, 15 minutes later granted, but I don't recall hearing any complaints from St Ergnats. It will still be tight getting there to start at 6.30pm

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 11:12:31 AM
Settle lads, all this talk is futile. About 2 out of 30 fixtures in the U20 D L have taken place and this one not likely to happen like the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 11:48:25 AM
Think a closer look has to be taken at my post on under 20 fixture.
This competition thus far has been disappointing in the extreme.....no fixtures for weeks and when the evenings grow shorter Cargin under 20s are asked to be at Musgrave for a 6.15 throw in when this game could well have been fixed for early summer.
This competition to date has been a disaster..

By the way, in not too distant past a common practise and an unwritten rule said 'no evening fixtures be made prior to 7.00pm.

How many South side clubs will travel down the country on Friday evening for a 6.15 start.?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 11:12:31 AM
Settle lads, all this talk is futile. About 2 out of 30 fixtures in the U20 D L have taken place and this one not likely to happen like the rest.

Both under-20 fixtures this week do site St Brigid's at home in dubious time slots.....?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 14, 2022, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 11:12:31 AM
Settle lads, all this talk is futile. About 2 out of 30 fixtures in the U20 D L have taken place and this one not likely to happen like the rest.

Both under-20 fixtures this week do site St Brigid's at home in dubious time slots.....?????

Looking at the League Table , Moneyglass can win it , if they beat St.Brigids. Moneyglass have actually played a number of fixtures, while St Brigids have had 4 w/o  to date. You would make Moneyglass favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 14, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 11:48:25 AM
Think a closer look has to be taken at my post on under 20 fixture.
This competition thus far has been disappointing in the extreme.....no fixtures for weeks and when the evenings grow shorter Cargin under 20s are asked to be at Musgrave for a 6.15 throw in when this game could well have been fixed for early summer.
This competition to date has been a disaster..

By the way, in not too distant past a common practise and an unwritten rule said 'no evening fixtures be made prior to 7.00pm.

How many South side clubs will travel down the country on Friday evening for a 6.15 start.?

6.15 is too early. But I've lost count of the amount of times teams from SW fail to travel to Aghagallon when it's their turn. A lot of teams don't like the long the journey down to our place no matter what time of the night it's played!

Also, I agree the u20 competition has been a joke. I don't like the new format of u17s as well. I'd be in favour of going back to u18 and then having an u21 competition like before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
Are they supposed to like the journey down to there Jim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 14, 2022, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
Are they supposed to like the journey down to there Jim?

No but we don't exactly like having to make the long journey with underage teams every week! Every team will have a valid excuse every now and then but there's a few clubs who you could nearly put the house on it that they won't turn up. Cargin isn't one of them btw!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 14, 2022, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 11:48:25 AM
Think a closer look has to be taken at my post on under 20 fixture.
This competition thus far has been disappointing in the extreme.....no fixtures for weeks and when the evenings grow shorter Cargin under 20s are asked to be at Musgrave for a 6.15 throw in when this game could well have been fixed for early summer.
This competition to date has been a disaster..

By the way, in not too distant past a common practise and an unwritten rule said 'no evening fixtures be made prior to 7.00pm.

How many South side clubs will travel down the country on Friday evening for a 6.15 start.?

Quite a few didn't make it for 8pm starts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 03:29:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 14, 2022, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 14, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
Are they supposed to like the journey down to there Jim?

No but we don't exactly like having to make the long journey with underage teams every week! Every team will have a valid excuse every now and then but there's a few clubs who you could nearly put the house on it that they won't turn up. Cargin isn't one of them btw!
Bit of mutual appreciation here but we head down as its always a tough game down there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
No harm intended by my post by the way. From my own experience, it's easier to get kids in from school and back up the road for 6pm than it is to get lads possibly off a building site or out of work and up the road for 6.15pm.

It's not an easy task for the fixture makers but some common sense surely has to be used.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
No harm intended by my post by the way. From my own experience, it's easier to get kids in from school and back up the road for 6pm than it is to get lads possibly off a building site or out of work and up the road for 6.15pm.

It's not an easy task for the fixture makers but some common sense surely has to be used.
Strange how the CCC are expedient in awrding points w/o in under-20 league our u-15s had four w/o, dnf in their league allocation and despite emails a plenty from our Runai such has not been allocated....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 14, 2022, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 14, 2022, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
No harm intended by my post by the way. From my own experience, it's easier to get kids in from school and back up the road for 6pm than it is to get lads possibly off a building site or out of work and up the road for 6.15pm.

It's not an easy task for the fixture makers but some common sense surely has to be used.
Strange how the CCC are expedient in awrding points w/o in under-20 league our u-15s had four w/o, dnf in their league allocation and despite emails a plenty from our Runai such has not been allocated....

It is more strange seeing as official word went out to say that if a team wasn't prepared to field, the points would automatically be awarded to the team that would, as there wouldn't be time to reschedule the games.

So emails went out to both teams and if a date wasn't agreed, the team that initially called it off lost out.

I had been expecting Cargin to eventually get those unfulfilled fixtures added and head to the top of the u15 Div 2 table at the expense of Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on September 14, 2022, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 14, 2022, 10:13:34 AM
Definitely seems to be an anti cargin agenda on this board probably based on jealously, no disrespect to anyone but if you really think cargin have been paying managers vast amounts of money you would need to think again including Mr Cassidy,it would be a team 5 miles away do things like that, slap bang in middle of a rebuild on and off the park cargin can't afford to be paying managers, trainers, S&C coaches medical team and nutritionists, we look forward to next Saturday in hope it won't be easy trying to beat the county champions.

In typical fashion take a dig at themuns down the road. Beginning to sound like a unionist at this rate.😂 keep telling yourself all that if it makes you feel better. So Cassidy walked away from numerous clubs throwing money at him to take Cargin for nothing.  Why would you need a S&C coach when the local gym was billing you for use of the facilities and their coaches. Was your physio not an outsider from Newbridge,doubt  he was doing that for charity . Remember people in every club talk after those AGMs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 14, 2022, 11:01:32 PM
Never once said Damian didn't get expenses covered or that a gym doesn't get paid same goes for a physio(been a long time since a Newbridge physio was about) all things people pay for everyday as you'd expect it's normal enough, what I did say was its not the vast amounts of money
The figures I've heard from the gossips are very much exaggerated I can tell you I even once heard on this we pay managers 20&30k a year that would just be madness for any club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 15, 2022, 08:25:51 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on September 14, 2022, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 14, 2022, 10:13:34 AM
Definitely seems to be an anti cargin agenda on this board probably based on jealously, no disrespect to anyone but if you really think cargin have been paying managers vast amounts of money you would need to think again including Mr Cassidy,it would be a team 5 miles away do things like that, slap bang in middle of a rebuild on and off the park cargin can't afford to be paying managers, trainers, S&C coaches medical team and nutritionists, we look forward to next Saturday in hope it won't be easy trying to beat the county champions.

In typical fashion take a dig at themuns down the road. Beginning to sound like a unionist at this rate.😂 keep telling yourself all that if it makes you feel better. So Cassidy walked away from numerous clubs throwing money at him to take Cargin for nothing.  Why would you need a S&C coach when the local gym was billing you for use of the facilities and their coaches. Was your physio not an outsider from Newbridge,doubt  he was doing that for charity . Remember people in every club talk after those AGMs.
Obsessed much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 15, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.
Productive night for St.Brigids got 4 points last night, 2 against MG  and 2 from Cargin , to win the league ! Actually played 1 game ! Utter nonsense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 15, 2022, 01:20:36 PM
Rossa lodging a complaint with the county over the game being allowed to continue last weekend.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 15, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.
Productive night for St.Brigids got 4 points last night, 2 against MG  and 2 from Cargin , to win the league ! Actually played 1 game ! Utter nonsense

With 12 under 20s on senior side and several starters.....there was no way Cargin were taking that fixture.surely Brigid's will not claim the title...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 15, 2022, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 15, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.
Productive night for St.Brigids got 4 points last night, 2 against MG  and 2 from Cargin , to win the league ! Actually played 1 game ! Utter nonsense

With 12 under 20s on senior side and several starters.....there was no way Cargin were taking that fixture.surely Brigid's will not claim the title...?

Same goes for creggan in Div 2.

Didn't play a game and sitting top due to walkover points so you would like to think that league will just be scrubbed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 15, 2022, 02:26:17 PM
What a farce!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 15, 2022, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 15, 2022, 01:20:36 PM
Rossa lodging a complaint with the county over the game being allowed to continue last weekend.

Maybe they're just seeking clarification!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2022, 02:39:16 PM
Tonight's u15C final replay at Musgrave- St Teresa's  v ODonnells
Last week's game at glen Road, why not at ODs tonight ?
Ps just curious don't start a whole row over it like most things !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on September 15, 2022, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 15, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.
Productive night for St.Brigids got 4 points last night, 2 against MG  and 2 from Cargin , to win the league ! Actually played 1 game ! Utter nonsense

With 12 under 20s on senior side and several starters.....there was no way Cargin were taking that fixture.surely Brigid's will not claim the title...?
The Bot was rocking last night and an all dayer in the Hatfield today🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 15, 2022, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: Flanker on September 15, 2022, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 15, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.
Productive night for St.Brigids got 4 points last night, 2 against MG  and 2 from Cargin , to win the league ! Actually played 1 game ! Utter nonsense

With 12 under 20s on senior side and several starters.....there was no way Cargin were taking that fixture.surely Brigid's will not claim the title...?
The Bot was rocking last night and an all dayer in the Hatfield today🤣🤣
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Fair play they don't get many opportunities.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 15, 2022, 03:06:25 PM
U20s was a farce last year also - until they can find a better home for this competition it will always be flawed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2022, 03:35:28 PM
There was never an u21 league (or not in my day) so why does there need to be an u20 league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 15, 2022, 03:36:50 PM
On what basis, from my viewing they were outplayed

Quote from: paddyjohn on September 15, 2022, 01:20:36 PM
Rossa lodging a complaint with the county over the game being allowed to continue last weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2022, 03:39:22 PM
They have two very bad injuries out of it. Assume it's that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 15, 2022, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2022, 03:39:22 PM
They have two very bad injuries out of it. Assume it's that.
Was just about to say this. I am sure it is to highlight the dangerous position all the players on the pitch were placed in. Very luck no one broke a leg that day, an ACL is possibly a worse injury.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 15, 2022, 04:03:34 PM
Easily a worst injury, a broken leg will get better without much effort from the injured party, usually 12-16s at the very most unless a very unusual break, minimal rehab in it. ACL at least 9-12 months and a massive amount of personal time for the rehab to return to play, never mind the mental loneliness of it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 15, 2022, 04:49:53 PM
A nasty injury good luck to young Armstrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 16, 2022, 12:17:18 AM
So giving Cassidy £15k plus a year is expenses. Wise up and take a look at yourself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 16, 2022, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 16, 2022, 12:17:18 AM
So giving Cassidy £15k plus a year is expenses. Wise up and take a look at yourself
How would you know what Cassidy got per year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 16, 2022, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 15, 2022, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 15, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Great to see the St Brigids V Moneyglass U20 game got played last night.
Productive night for St.Brigids got 4 points last night, 2 against MG  and 2 from Cargin , to win the league ! Actually played 1 game ! Utter nonsense

With 12 under 20s on senior side and several starters.....there was no way Cargin were taking that fixture.surely Brigid's will not claim the title...?

Must file this one away for the next time we see moaning on here about city teams not travelling to SW. And of course, lets castigate the team who were available to play their games when the other teams FTF, perfect logic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2022, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 16, 2022, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 16, 2022, 12:17:18 AM
So giving Cassidy £15k plus a year is expenses. Wise up and take a look at yourself
How would you know what Cassidy got per year?

How would anyone know, exactly!. But I tell you what, whatever he got he well earned it working with Cargin 😂😂🤮 and then to manage them to their first 3 in a row. Whatever it was, it was worth it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 16, 2022, 09:05:38 AM
So lining up to take pops at Cargin....am sure they are aol upset....

Seems we are not the only club clad in green (appropriate)...
Let's talk about all the rest who provide (expenses) for management.....you can start off with referees, county officials in our county, province and central body....
Then take off the camouflage and name your own club....NO!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 16, 2022, 09:14:16 AM
Portglenone are the only side left in championship with an in house manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 16, 2022, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 16, 2022, 09:14:16 AM
Portglenone are the only side left in championship with an in house manager.
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Pull the other one.....stiffer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 16, 2022, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 16, 2022, 12:17:18 AM
So giving Cassidy £15k plus a year is expenses. Wise up and take a look at yourself



Another know it all outsider
I know what he was on (not very much) and was well worth it he produced the goods unlike other mercenaries.
DC Highly thought of by the good people of cargin and always will be
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2022, 09:27:20 AM
Lads at some point each year this debate comes up, sometimes alot more. It's pointless, the Gaa has moved on, they haven't got round to updating their rules to include managers alongside secretaries, GPOs. The vast amount of staff employed in all of the provincial councils and Croke, new roles of head of operations. I could go on but you get the drift. To suggest anything means your head is in the sand. The role is way to demanding now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Will it ever end on September 16, 2022, 09:29:55 AM
A mercenary is not a mercenary when they produce the goods - noted logic for the future.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 16, 2022, 09:31:08 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2022, 09:27:20 AM
Lads at some point each year this debate comes up, sometimes alot more. It's pointless, the Gaa has moved on, they haven't got round to updating their rules to include managers alongside secretaries, GPOs. The vast amount of staff employed in all of the provincial councils and Croke, new roles of head of operations. I could go on but you get the drift. To suggest anything means your head is in the sand. The role is way to demanding now.

Well said DK and L na P.....u can bet all those posters who fire shots from deep cover are prolific winners.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 16, 2022, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 16, 2022, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 16, 2022, 12:17:18 AM
So giving Cassidy £15k plus a year is expenses. Wise up and take a look at yourself



Another know it all outsider
I know what he was on (not very much) and was well worth it he produced the goods unlike other mercenaries.
DC Highly thought of by the good people of cargin and always will be

What do the bad people of Cargin think of him?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 16, 2022, 09:34:54 AM
Stiffler sure you know there's no bad people in Cargin 😁
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 16, 2022, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 16, 2022, 09:14:16 AM
Portglenone are the only side left in championship with an in house manager.
In house manager but 3 Tyrone coaches in his managment (Canavan, Mc Geary, some boy Devlin). Jes this debate gets tedious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 16, 2022, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2022, 03:35:28 PM
There was never an u21 league (or not in my day) so why does there need to be an u20 league?

Because of the ridiculous idea of moving minor to U17, the gap between those leaving minor and senior is massive.  Realistically, you will have a fair proportion who whilst they will eventually develop into strong senior footballers however they won't be ready for 3-4 years.  The answer is getting back to u18 minors but in the meantime, give those leaving minor plenty of meaningful football.  Otherwise, when clubs look for them 3-4 years later, they won't be there....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 16, 2022, 12:34:02 PM
Why has that u20 not worked ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2022, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 16, 2022, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 16, 2022, 09:14:16 AM
Portglenone are the only side left in championship with an in house manager.
In house manager but 3 Tyrone coaches in his managment (Canavan, Mc Geary, some boy Devlin). Jes this debate gets tedious.

Has Peter the Great made an appearance yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 19, 2022, 08:10:28 AM
All those candles lit in Toome over the past week have worked the Oracle.....
Ref for the upcoming semi final announced....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 19, 2022, 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 19, 2022, 08:10:28 AM
All those candles lit in Toome over the past week have worked the Oracle.....
Ref for the upcoming semi final announced....

Who is it then ?
Cause we can all guess from that who it isn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 19, 2022, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 19, 2022, 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 19, 2022, 08:10:28 AM
All those candles lit in Toome over the past week have worked the Oracle.....
Ref for the upcoming semi final announced....

Who is it then ?
Cause we can all guess from that who it isn't

C Mc Donald.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 19, 2022, 11:09:34 PM
£30 per person if you want to go to the senior and intermediate semis. 2/3 hour wait each day if you decide to go to both games. Cant go to watch both junior semis as they are on at the same time. Shambles.

Anyway... predictions.

Senior:
Cargin
Aghagallon

Intermediate:
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Junior:
O'Ds
Pearses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 20, 2022, 01:02:18 PM
A complete farce Geezer. Some way to kick the notion firmly in the teeth that the Antrim CB want to promote our games, let alone do their own wee bit to distract people from the cost of living crisis. Nope, let's just add to the hassle. There's no hiding the fact that they are trying to milk as much as they can out of supporters, but if they had a bit of sense they could have easily drawn bigger crowds and generated more income with double headers surely! AND without milking us for everything they can. Antrim CB have done some really positive things in recent times, but a complete f*%k-up is never too far away from them either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 20, 2022, 01:06:10 PM
I'll go....

Senior:
Cargin
Portglenone

Intermediate:
Glenravel
Dunloy

Junior:
O'Ds
St.Malachy's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 20, 2022, 01:11:29 PM
Say no more what more do we expect from the board

Predictions

Senior:
Creggan
Portglenone (sure they have to win as they are the eventual winners)

Intermediate:
Glenravel
Dunloy

Junior:
O'Ds
Pearses


Quote from: geezer on September 19, 2022, 11:09:34 PM
£30 per person if you want to go to the senior and intermediate semis. 2/3 hour wait each day if you decide to go to both games. Cant go to watch both junior semis as they are on at the same time. Shambles.

Anyway... predictions.

Senior:
Cargin
Aghagallon

Intermediate:
Dunloy
Sarsfields

Junior:
O'Ds
Pearses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 20, 2022, 01:11:48 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on September 20, 2022, 01:02:18 PM
A complete farce Geezer. Some way to kick the notion firmly in the teeth that the Antrim CB want to promote our games, let alone do their own wee bit to distract people from the cost of living crisis. Nope, let's just add to the hassle. There's no hiding the fact that they are trying to milk as much as they can out of supporters, but if they had a bit of sense they could have easily drawn bigger crowds and generated more income with double headers surely! AND without milking us for everything they can. Antrim CB have done some really positive things in recent times, but a complete f*%k-up is never too far away from them either.

Don't like to criticise volunteers but the CCC fixtures have been poor as last few years especially around championship time. I know this the revenue stream for the county but with a bit more thought more money could have been made by using double headers and increasing attendance. Don't get why the CB didnt do the gates into the group stages, clubs got the gates, very strange, now they have to charge through the nose to make up for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2022, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on September 20, 2022, 01:02:18 PM
A complete farce Geezer. Some way to kick the notion firmly in the teeth that the Antrim CB want to promote our games, let alone do their own wee bit to distract people from the cost of living crisis. Nope, let's just add to the hassle. There's no hiding the fact that they are trying to milk as much as they can out of supporters, but if they had a bit of sense they could have easily drawn bigger crowds and generated more income with double headers surely! AND without milking us for everything they can. Antrim CB have done some really positive things in recent times, but a complete f*%k-up is never too far away from them either.

Nail on head.

Disgraceful call from the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 20, 2022, 03:34:27 PM
Can't see too many hanging about either day for 2 matches
£8 for each double header would have brought more neutrals on no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2022, 03:54:02 PM
Thinking about the potential incentive structure that might drive setting fixtures in such a manner

Antrim ran venue means they don't have to hand anything back to clubs, so lets do as much there as possible
Dunsilly is not able to cope with double headers. Who did the design brief on that place?  :o   
3 hrs apart improves the chances of live streaming getting revenue to make it sustainable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 20, 2022, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2022, 03:54:02 PM
Thinking about the potential incentive structure that might drive setting fixtures in such a manner

Antrim ran venue means they don't have to hand anything back to clubs, so lets do as much there as possible
Dunsilly is not able to cope with double headers. Who did the design brief on that place?  :o   
3 hrs apart improves the chances of live streaming getting revenue to make it sustainable.

Yeah that's my thoughts, Dunsilly isn't suitable for a double header but they are gonna flog it to death so they don't have to give any money back to the clubs in gate receipts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 20, 2022, 04:01:59 PM
Apart from a final between two well supported clubs there isn't much to be made in any other championship game by clubs. Dunsilly is now an impressive venue, don't blame Antrim for wanting to host games there now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 20, 2022, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2022, 03:54:02 PM
Thinking about the potential incentive structure that might drive setting fixtures in such a manner

Antrim ran venue means they don't have to hand anything back to clubs, so lets do as much there as possible
Dunsilly is not able to cope with double headers. Who did the design brief on that place?  :o   
3 hrs apart improves the chances of live streaming getting revenue to make it sustainable.

Been wondering that myself.

Why the need for 3 pitches?

They should have had 2 pitches, with one having a stand/terrace for big championship games and dare I say it, get the county games there too.

The extra space would have allowed the changing rooms to be on the pitch side of the tunnel instead of stuck where they are now.

The simplicity of the logic behind that is clear to see....except in the eyes of the decision makers.

But then again that might have meant long term moving matches away from the city.....and we know they wouldn't like that as travelling up the M2 causes an adverse reaction to a good lot of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 20, 2022, 09:21:22 PM
Dunsilly was built as a training ground for County teams and is a good venue for that, but since Casement Park was f**ked up by a previous County Board and the UC they've decided to use it for Championship matches as the County Board can control all tickets/money.

Poor parking and toilet facilities for big crowds. You've also players using the same entrance as supporters before the match and half time, which personally I don't think should happen. And as mentioned before, they can't host double headers .  Bigger crowds would have attended North Antrim venues (Ballycastle/Dunloy) for the bigger championship matches. Intermediate/Senior C'Ship should be double headers where possible.
Never mind the cost in this day and age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2022, 09:24:51 PM
Speaking to a Glenravel man today. Has Dunsilly at 1pm on Saturday, Randalstown at 3 for the Camogie, potential Un16 ladies final on Sunday with one daughter whilst his other daughter has a blitz in Toome at 10am and the back to the ladies final at 4 in Toome.

Nice position to be in I suppose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2022, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 20, 2022, 09:21:22 PM
Dunsilly was built as a training ground for County teams and is a good venue for that, but since Casement Park was f**ked up by a previous County Board and the UC they've decided to use it for Championship matches as the County Board can control all tickets/money.

Poor parking and toilet facilities for big crowds. You've also players using the same entrance as supporters before the match and half time, which personally I don't think should happen. And as mentioned before, they can't host double headers .  Bigger crowds would have attended North Antrim venues (Ballycastle/Dunloy) for the bigger championship matches. Intermediate/Senior C'Ship should be double headers where possible.
Never mind the cost in this day and age.

Built for training now used for flagship championship games. Portaloos or one disabled toilet with broken door lock to service a championship crowd.

Viewing facilities not good enough. Grass bank on one side only. Hopefully it's not wet. Parking not good enough. Pitch could be bigger. Pitch access with players / supporters in together a disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 21, 2022, 07:56:06 AM
dp st johns not let them use corrigan? why all the money spent on corrigan then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on September 21, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
How much would a host club get in Antrim?

10% of gate receipts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2022, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 21, 2022, 07:56:06 AM
dp st johns not let them use corrigan? why all the money spent on corrigan then?

I would say it will still be used for the finals.

Not really sure why the excessive use of Dunsilly tbh. They seem to find it a good mid point between country and city too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 21, 2022, 08:59:47 AM
Why the negativity on this subject. Dunsilly project is still developing and will in time turn out to be a fantastic location for the preparation of our county squads. It's not finished yet.

Anyone involved in preparation of our county teams will tell you it was a nightmare at times getting venues....UUJ was an option that was widely used but it was expensive.  Now we have an adequate facility that is still in development phase and that's a massive plus. That's its central cuts out large chunks of travelling time too. In time the dressing rooms can be enlarged or updated, maybe even proper S/C facilities too, etc.

I see it as a fantastic initiative that gives us a proper chance of closing the gap that existed for a generation in preparation of our teams. Dunsilly hotel is nearby for video analysis or team workshops, plus catering when appropriate.

As a match day venue it's not perfect but with some further upgrades (toileting facilities as rightly pointed out being one) it will get there. It can comfortably hold up to 1.5k people and we very rarely have a need for more than that. If we do there's always Corrigan as an option that will provide facility for larger numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 21, 2022, 09:20:29 AM
All the back slapping re training facilities we can accept, however, you then agree with a mumbled cough that at present it is not up to match day standard, to bring young kids etc with the lack of basic sanitary facilities is a joke, just accept at present it is not up to holding flagship events never mind evidently a double header 

Quote from: bannside on September 21, 2022, 08:59:47 AM
Why the negativity on this subject. Dunsilly project is still developing and will in time turn out to be a fantastic location for the preparation of our county squads. It's not finished yet.

Anyone involved in preparation of our county teams will tell you it was a nightmare at times getting venues....UUJ was an option that was widely used but it was expensive.  Now we have an adequate facility that is still in development phase and that's a massive plus. That's its central cuts out large chunks of travelling time too. In time the dressing rooms can be enlarged or updated, maybe even proper S/C facilities too, etc.

I see it as a fantastic initiative that gives us a proper chance of closing the gap that existed for a generation in preparation of our teams. Dunsilly hotel is nearby for video analysis or team workshops, plus catering when appropriate.

As a match day venue it's not perfect but with some further upgrades (toileting facilities as rightly pointed out being one) it will get there. It can comfortably hold up to 1.5k people and we very rarely have a need for more than that. If we do there's always Corrigan as an option that will provide facility for larger numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 21, 2022, 09:28:16 AM
Yeah bannside I get your point, it's a work in progress (probably forever) so don't use it for games it isn't capable of holding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 21, 2022, 09:29:52 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 21, 2022, 07:56:06 AM
dp st johns not let them use corrigan? why all the money spent on corrigan then?

Cos Collie Donnelly was the Antrim chairman at the time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 21, 2022, 09:56:31 AM
Corrigan should be used for the semis. I know most teams are from SW but they would have no issue travelling upto casement if it was in action.

Corrigan is the county ground at the moment and would have no problem hosting double headers. Im sure everyone would be happy enough to pay £10 for both games.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 21, 2022, 10:26:27 AM
Regardless of where games are it should be a good weekend of football.

Cargin v Creggan-Creggan by 1
Casements v Aghagallon-ports by 5

Con magees v sarsfields-con magees by 2
Davitts v Dunloy-Dunloy by 6


O'Donnells v Eire og-O'Donnells by 4
St Malachys v Pearses-Pearses by 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 21, 2022, 10:57:01 AM
There are enough adequate club grounds in Belfast and the non-city clubs that have proved in past years they can successfully host double headers. This bulls*&^t about having to hand over gate receipts to clubs for the use is just crap. A small nominal fee should be issued to clubs and County board pocket the rest. Is this all just down to sheer appalling management, or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 21, 2022, 11:18:39 AM
Money grabbing exercise. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2022, 11:30:47 AM
Ladies county board charging £10 in to an intermediate final and £5 for Un16s..

Seems the greed goes everywhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 21, 2022, 12:36:28 PM
The fact that the county board invested heavily in the facilities at Corrigan Park only for St Johns club to refuse the county access last year was ridiculous!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2022, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Caesar on September 21, 2022, 12:36:28 PM
The fact that the county board invested heavily in the facilities at Corrigan Park only for St Johns club to refuse the county access last year was ridiculous!

Why did they refuse?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 21, 2022, 02:59:53 PM
On a different topic, the Irish News really has gradually turned into a woeful newspaper. For example Com Cavanagh's column today, some of the most boring drivel you are ever likely to read.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 21, 2022, 02:59:53 PM
On a different topic, the Irish News really has gradually turned into a woeful newspaper. For example Com Cavanagh's column today, some of the most boring drivel you are ever likely to read.

Lost all respect for that family when Sean talked about up here in the UK.

Soup taker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RandyDupree on September 21, 2022, 11:17:15 PM
Gentlemen, where is creggan Vs cargin taking place this Saturday at 5pm? Is there a match on beforehand? And how does one obtain tickets? Much appreciated
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2022, 08:10:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 21, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 21, 2022, 02:59:53 PM
On a different topic, the Irish News really has gradually turned into a woeful newspaper. For example Com Cavanagh's column today, some of the most boring drivel you are ever likely to read.

Lost all respect for that family when Sean talked about up here in the UK.

Soup taker.

You can hardly blame the whole family.

the game is at Dunsilly Randy. No games beforehand because that's not what the county board do.... There's a game at 1 if you want to hang about.

Tickets: https://t.co/kCgstLdGE1 (https://t.co/kCgstLdGE1)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 22, 2022, 10:53:02 AM
Who reared him? I blame the parents  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2022, 10:56:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2022, 08:10:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 21, 2022, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 21, 2022, 02:59:53 PM
On a different topic, the Irish News really has gradually turned into a woeful newspaper. For example Com Cavanagh's column today, some of the most boring drivel you are ever likely to read.

Lost all respect for that family when Sean talked about up here in the UK.

Soup taker.

You can hardly blame the whole family.

the game is at Dunsilly Randy. No games beforehand because that's not what the county board do.... There's a game at 1 if you want to hang about.

Tickets: https://t.co/kCgstLdGE1 (https://t.co/kCgstLdGE1)

I wouldn't of set foot in my parish never mind house again if I'd of said that so it's the parents fault 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 22, 2022, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 20, 2022, 04:01:59 PM
Apart from a final between two well supported clubs there isn't much to be made in any other championship game by clubs. Dunsilly is now an impressive venue, don't blame Antrim for wanting to host games there now.
Impressive? Really?  Perhaps adding somewhere for people to actually sit down to watch a game might be a start.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 22, 2022, 01:28:43 PM
Not sure if you noticed but Casement closed in 2012 along with anywhere to sit down and watch a game in Antrim. Corrigan is there now with a stand (couldn't tell you what is going on with the politics of that and why games aren't there), but I standby what I said Dunsilly is a good venue to watch a game, very few games in Antrim need a bigger venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 22, 2022, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 22, 2022, 01:28:43 PM
Not sure if you noticed but Casement closed in 2012 along with anywhere to sit down and watch a game in Antrim. Corrigan is there now with a stand (couldn't tell you what is going on with the politics of that and why games aren't there), but I standby what I said Dunsilly is a good venue to watch a game, very few games in Antrim need a bigger venue.
Thanks for the info about Casement - I wasn't aware.  Any venue without a seat isn't good enough imho - perhaps that will change in time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 22, 2022, 01:53:54 PM
You may register your complaint about not getting a seat with the people who decided to close Casement. Just stating Dunsilly as a ground is adequate for any Antrim club game. With improvements still to be made on toilets changing rooms etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 22, 2022, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 22, 2022, 01:53:54 PM
You may register your complaint about not getting a seat with the people who decided to close Casement. Just stating Dunsilly as a ground is adequate for any Antrim club game. With improvements still to be made on toilets changing rooms etc

A concrete terrace along that grass bank would have been an idea though....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 22, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
I remember the good old days of Casement and it packed out on county final day......
At least we could get sitting down though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 22, 2022, 03:41:39 PM
If the new stadium ever gets finished (or started) don't panic there will be at least 30,000 spare seats on county final day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 22, 2022, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 22, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
I remember the good old days of Casement and it packed out on county final day......
At least we could get sitting down though.
Packed out on county final day?  That's a bit of an exaggeration!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 22, 2022, 07:01:18 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 22, 2022, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 22, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
I remember the good old days of Casement and it packed out on county final day......
At least we could get sitting down though.
Packed out on county final day?  That's a bit of an exaggeration!

I was taking the piss! People think if Casement is built they're going to have all this great parking and the place will be packed. I actually always found Casement a crap place to watch a match as the atmosphere was lost in the size of the place. Only ever really saw it packed on a handful of occasions in the Ulster championship. The playing surface was amazing though. My favourite place to watch and play a match is Glenavy. Dunsilly is very good too for all the complaining about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 23, 2022, 05:03:17 PM
Dunsilly  with a concrete stand and toilet facilities would be good.  thought ballymena should have made a go at something or Cargin as part of their new set up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 23, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 23, 2022, 05:03:17 PM
Dunsilly  with a concrete stand and toilet facilities would be good.  thought ballymena should have made a go at something or Cargin as part of their new set up
Toome, is the perfect spot......easy access and exit.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 23, 2022, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 23, 2022, 05:03:17 PM
Dunsilly  with a concrete stand and toilet facilities would be good.  thought ballymena should have made a go at something or Cargin as part of their new set up


Terracing is a part of new project as far as I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2022, 04:20:24 PM
Glenravel win pulling up. The young lad Ryan McQuillan looks a class act to accompany Eamon Fyfe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2022, 05:08:21 PM
Are creggan playing in this game... You wouldn't think so based on commentary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 24, 2022, 07:02:33 PM
Yeah, brutal commentary. Don't know half the players. Is Cargan down to 14 or because it is extra time is it not a new game and he can be replaced?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2022, 07:04:16 PM
That's what I am trying to work out too. Not sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 24, 2022, 07:06:27 PM
Hasn't known Kevin Rices name the whole game who has been excellent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2022, 07:07:05 PM
Now they say cargin have 15?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2022, 07:09:33 PM
Both out of steam. Cargin more legs though. Tight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 24, 2022, 07:20:06 PM
Cargin be doing some gurning to get shivers red rescinded for the final like they did for McCann a few years ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 24, 2022, 07:21:56 PM
Creggan had the game won a few times and didn't close it out. They'll be kicking themselves. Cargin wouldn't go away there so fair played to them. I thought the ref was harsh on Creggan at times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2022, 07:32:56 PM
Tomas McCann had too much in the tank for Creggan at the end but creggan should have been further ahead a few times. Agreed on the ref.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 24, 2022, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 24, 2022, 07:21:56 PM
Creggan had the game won a few times and didn't close it out. They'll be kicking themselves. Cargin wouldn't go away there so fair played to them. I thought the ref was harsh on Creggan at times.

Make them.play it again sure, and get MR2 in charge.....That will work the Oracle.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 24, 2022, 08:06:14 PM
Exciting finish but let's face it lads - shite quality
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 24, 2022, 08:10:08 PM
We heard you the first time

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 24, 2022, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 24, 2022, 07:21:56 PM
Creggan had the game won a few times and didn't close it out. They'll be kicking themselves. Cargin wouldn't go away there so fair played to them. I thought the ref was harsh on Creggan at times.

Make them.play it again sure, and get MR2 in charge.....That will work the Oracle.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 24, 2022, 08:16:14 PM
Lol at all the comments above. Into the final anyway, no credit needed and we don't want it. Still business to do yet but we'll sit back watch tomorrows semi and prepare for a final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 24, 2022, 08:23:23 PM
Not sure how anyone could say the ref was harder on one team or the other as he blow nothing for either team.
Btw when was it ok to be over the ball on your hand and knees ,always was a hoop ball. He must have let that happen a dozen times and then rucks akin to rugby erupted.
Nice one to win all the same Creggan very confused before game , nothing won yet though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2022, 08:28:17 PM
Yeah agreed on kneeling over the ball on your hands and knees. Never blew for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 24, 2022, 08:50:03 PM
What was Shivers sent off for?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 24, 2022, 10:29:53 PM
Best team won. Cargin better side overall although had a shockingly poor 2nd half performance. Better side in extra Time without putting enough scores on the board.  Ref had curious performance with refusing to punish creggans persistent cynical fouling with black cards, insisting on yellows and do not understand his ruling on the regular 'mauls' that occurred.    Cargin's old guard were to the fore in extra time.     It was a battle and was an intriguing match with dashes of quality sprinkled within. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 24, 2022, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 24, 2022, 08:50:03 PM
What was Shivers sent off for?
Absolutely nothing. He will be lining out in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2022, 09:27:14 AM
Witnessed County officers getting a serious tounge lashing leaving the ground last evening....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2022, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 25, 2022, 09:51:56 AM
Must've took offence alright lol,care to share CB

County chairman and treasurer getting a good telling off from some little guy...........seemed a tad upset at something........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 25, 2022, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 25, 2022, 10:06:24 AM
What happened with KD and GMcN in the middle off the pitch at full time,G MC N seemed to upset Dougal CB
He's upset at everything GMcN and behaves pretty badly up and down the line, berating his club mate Parke the 3rd official for the entire 60mins. I can see where his anger comes from, 1 championship in 5 years not a big return at a big club like Creggan who are in contention every year now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2022, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 25, 2022, 10:06:24 AM
What happened with KD and GMcN in the middle off the pitch at full time,G MC N seemed to upset Dougal CB

Think GMN wandered into the refs changing room at at the end of the game....maybe looking for Dougal.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 25, 2022, 02:33:02 PM
Dunloy pulled away in second half against Davitts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2022, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 25, 2022, 02:33:02 PM
Dunloy pulled away in second half against Davitts

Be a close one between them and Glenravel, hard to call
A lot will depend on the hurling as usual
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
Some comeback to get extra time from aghagallon !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2022, 06:34:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
Some comeback to get extra time from aghagallon !

First real championship test for PG1.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2022, 07:20:52 PM
And the fat lady was about to sing....
Almost feel sad for BS......but life can be a bitch at times....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 25, 2022, 07:53:54 PM
Unreal! Heart attack job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 25, 2022, 08:33:17 PM
Devastating for Portglenone but they were too clever for their own good today. Going down after frees, slow coming out after the breaks, generally trying to run the clock down and didn't go for the throat when the goal chance was there.  Never say never from Aghagallon.  Referee blew his whistle far too much today, mostly for the team in yellow.  Interesting final now. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2022, 09:00:02 PM
I was crying last week about entrance fees but I reckon I got my £16 back in excitement and entertainment!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 25, 2022, 09:27:39 PM
We'll give the final a rattle anyway!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 25, 2022, 09:55:20 PM
Bannside and MR2 must of been booted off this thing I'm thinking anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 25, 2022, 09:56:40 PM
Too mentally exhausted and emotionally involved to comment tbh....but Congratulations JS, your team has unbelievable spirit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2022, 10:05:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 25, 2022, 09:55:20 PM
Bannside and MR2 must of been booted off this thing I'm thinking anyway.
Hope MR2 stays away out of sight until championship is over....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 25, 2022, 10:07:02 PM
Be a poor final now.  Sequel of last year. Cargin at a canter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 25, 2022, 10:36:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 25, 2022, 09:56:40 PM
Too mentally exhausted and emotionally involved to comment tbh....but Congratulations JS, your team has unbelievable spirit.

Fair play Bannside. That was a hard defeat to take so well done with the congrats
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 25, 2022, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 25, 2022, 10:07:02 PM
Be a poor final now.  Sequel of last year. Cargin at a canter

Sure it's a day out if anything
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 25, 2022, 10:53:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 25, 2022, 09:56:40 PM
Too mentally exhausted and emotionally involved to comment tbh....but Congratulations JS, your team has unbelievable spirit.

Cheers Bannside. Tough one to take and really didn't think we would do it today but we have some heart alright! I'm sure Portglenone don't want people's sympathy but you'll be back, so many good teams coming through that it'll happen sooner or later.

Hopefully we can give better account of ourselves this year but we'll have to be at our best to stand a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 25, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
After being at all games (bar junior) this weekend i have to ask are we that short in officials that a referee who was banned 3 year ago was:

1. Umpire for Cargin v Creggan and from what I am told got Big Pat sent off and the wrong Cargin man black carded
2. Was linesman ay both the intermediate and senior semi final today in Dunsilly not to mention the most unfit looking linesman at the intermediate on the other kine

also Totes reffing one game on Saturday plus line for the second




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 25, 2022, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 25, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
After being at all games (bar junior) this weekend i have to ask are we that short in officials that a referee who was banned 3 year ago was:

1. Umpire for Cargin v Creggan and from what I am told got Big Pat sent off and the wrong Cargin man black carded
2. Was linesman ay both the intermediate and senior semi final today in Dunsilly not to mention the most unfit looking linesman at the intermediate on the other kine

also Totes reffing one game on Saturday plus line for the second

Probably yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 26, 2022, 01:16:33 AM
That was a wild game. Portglenone by far the better team but Aghagallon have that never say die attitude.

PG1 had the game won in both normal time and ET but somehow st marys came away with the victory. Couldn't believe when loughran scored the goal.

PG1 were so dominant in the 60, as soon as mccann got the goal they crumbled. They again had the game won in ET, crumbled. Surely there is something wrong with the mentality in that group?

That was 1 of the best endings ive ever seen in a game, pure hysteria from the aghagallon side and pure heartbreak from PG1.

Another bridge too far for PG1 when they should have been home and hosed in normal time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2022, 07:27:02 AM
And young AL couldn't make a county team in Antrim with the last 2 managers!!! Jesus Wept
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 07:40:46 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2022, 07:27:02 AM
And young AL couldn't make a county team in Antrim with the last 2 managers!!! Jesus Wept

Ruairi McCann is the bigger mystery to me! Wasn't even good enough for the panel of 30!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 07:47:47 AM
That was more a fault on his part from what I hear, but by all means wouldn't it be great to see him in the Antrim senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 07:48:22 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 07:47:47 AM
That was more a fault on his part from what I hear, but by all means wouldn't it be great to see him in the Antrim senior team.

Ruairi or Adam?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 08:06:22 AM
AL, I just heard the attitude wasn't great back then. Strong player I hope he gets involved and sticks at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2022, 07:27:02 AM
And young AL couldn't make a county team in Antrim with the last 2 managers!!! Jesus Wept

Have admired Adam L since his minor days but he did leave the senior panel this year by choice.....was he not heading to USA....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 25, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
After being at all games (bar junior) this weekend i have to ask are we that short in officials that a referee who was banned 3 year ago was:

1. Umpire for Cargin v Creggan and from what I am told got Big Pat sent off and the wrong Cargin man black carded
2. Was linesman ay both the intermediate and senior semi final today in Dunsilly not to mention the most unfit looking linesman at the intermediate on the other kine

also Totes reffing one game on Saturday plus line for the second
That umpire who got big Pat sent off at a hugely crucial point if the game peering through the gloom and a ruck of players to point the finger....(hank God for video evidence), was in the line at Cargins opening championship game and despite being only a few metres away when the big man got a thump on the head (which necessitated him leaving the game) he said he did not see the incident.
Wonder does he remember 1999....Cargin v St Paul's county final.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on September 26, 2022, 09:11:59 AM
Terrible standard of Refereeing for a county semi finals, the referee in Creggan v Cargin especially, absolutely terrible. The standard of football for county semi finals was also really really poor, however the entertainment value was great.

Big Pat will be playing in the finals, Cargin by 5.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 09:18:39 AM
The siege mentality is real  ;D

Some comeback from the dead from Aghagallon. That looked like some game though I missed it.

Is the final in 2 weekends time? I assume junior and intermediate same weekend? Cargin very strong favourites but I think the junior and intermediate seem very open.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 09:30:46 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 26, 2022, 09:11:59 AM
Terrible standard of Refereeing for a county semi finals, the referee in Creggan v Cargin especially, absolutely terrible. The standard of football for county semi finals was also really really poor, however the entertainment value was great.

Big Pat will be playing in the finals, Cargin by 5.
Is there a correlation / link between the standard of refereeing and the standard of football. I think so. Refereeing decisions in Cargin Creggan for both teams beggared belief.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 09:38:25 AM
I rate Sean Laverty but I thought he had a poor enough game and was hard on us at times and in the Creggan and Cargin game I thought the referee was harsh on Creggan at times!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 09:41:02 AM
Dont see it Jim, GMcN in the match report complaining about Ruairi McCanns black in extra time. He doesnt mention Martin Johnsons stonewall balck card not given, Rickys stonewall black not given (both in extra time) or the red card wrongly issued to Pat Shivers. Some neck on him, referee was poor but poor to both sides really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?

I missed what happened with Shivers but they talked in extra time (what I saw) commentary that Cargin were 14 men. Then McCann got black card and they said 14 against 15 so I got very confused ll.

EOC how many yards did McNabb get on that free to equalise and what about the stone wall free from the 13 for creggan in the 62nd minute...

I agree on Ricky Johnston black too btw. I didn't see Shivers. Not sure on Marty so either didn't see it or don't agree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?
And you thougt wrong......did you miss the ref brandishing the red card like a matador to big Pat.....Ruairi Mc Cann's black card kept him out for ten mns.
Cargin were down a man for the duration.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?

I missed what happened with Shivers but they talked in extra time (what I saw) commentary that Cargin were 14 men. Then McCann got black card and they said 14 against 15 so I got very confused ll.

EOC how many yards did McNabb get on that free to equalise and what about the stone wall free from the 13 for creggan in the 62nd minute...

I agree on Ricky Johnston black too btw. I didn't see Shivers. Not sure on Marty so either didn't see it or don't agree.
Honestly didn't notice the yards stealing by John. But yes there was one period towards the end of normal time in the far left corner from the grass bank where Creggan had at least 4 frees in a row not awarded to them, it was carnage and the referee had lost complete control.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 26, 2022, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 25, 2022, 08:33:17 PM
Devastating for Portglenone but they were too clever for their own good today. Going down after frees, slow coming out after the breaks, generally trying to run the clock down and didn't go for the throat when the goal chance was there.  Never say never from Aghagallon.  Referee blew his whistle far too much today, mostly for the team in yellow.  Interesting final now.
Portglenone were naive late on - once the ball went into the square for the winning goal, it should have been snuffed out.  3 men around the man and he still got the ball laid off...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 26, 2022, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?
And you thougt wrong......did you miss the ref brandishing the red card like a matador to big Pat.....Ruairi Mc Cann's black card kept him out for ten mns.
Cargin were down a man for the duration.......


I think the understanding was that a red for an incident in normal time means you can replace the man for extra time.

That red was given at the start of extra time didn't matter.

It did look like Cargin had thrown a sub on, nr 27 i think, in place of Pat but maybe he replaced someone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on September 26, 2022, 09:57:55 AM
I thought Sean Laverty refereed the game very well. It's hard to be too critical of PG1 in my opinion. They looked the better side for the majority of the game. I think John McKeever has certainly brought them on this year and from a neutrals point of view, I would hope he stays on with the team and continues to develop them. Himself and the lads must be completely sick this morning. Football is cruel. Big Niall must be kicking himself he didn't round the keeper for an easy goal rather than a point towards the end of normal time that would have put them 7 up! Aghagallon must be credited though. They are very dangerous on the counter attack and have quality footballers in the final third. They will need all of those lads to step things up in the final for 60 minutes as opposed to 15-20 minutes if they are to make a good go of it however.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 26, 2022, 09:59:04 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?
And you thougt wrong......did you miss the ref brandishing the red card like a matador to big Pat.....Ruairi Mc Cann's black card kept him out for ten mns.
Cargin were down a man for the duration.......


A bit like your reporting, inaccurate as usual. pat got red card at end of normal game so Cargan we're able to return to 15 for the new game of extra time. Anyone knows that if you have a man sent off you return to the 15 for extra time.

Just like Armagh v Galway, both were up to 15 but just not the two players who had been sent off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 10:07:15 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 26, 2022, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?

I missed what happened with Shivers but they talked in extra time (what I saw) commentary that Cargin were 14 men. Then McCann got black card and they said 14 against 15 so I got very confused ll.

EOC how many yards did McNabb get on that free to equalise and what about the stone wall free from the 13 for creggan in the 62nd minute...

I agree on Ricky Johnston black too btw. I didn't see Shivers. Not sure on Marty so either didn't see it or don't agree.
Honestly didn't notice the yards stealing by John. But yes there was one period towards the end of normal time in the far left corner from the grass bank where Creggan had at least 4 frees in a row not awarded to them, it was carnage and the referee had lost complete control.

There were at least 3 occasions with the control thing. He stole a lot of yards - wouldn't have mattered out the pitch but definitely made that free a lot more scorable.

So Cargin had 15 in ET then? If it was normal time then they had to go back to 15. I don't recall it in normal time though. I am more confused than I was before lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 26, 2022, 10:19:01 AM
Yes they had. The red card was issued just before the start of ET but it is deemed part of original game. Same as the Armagh v Galway fiasco
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 26, 2022, 10:19:56 AM
The incident I mean was deemed part of the original game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 26, 2022, 10:20:10 AM
a lot of bewildering calls. the clear penalty Cargin should have had in the first half when he pulled it back and gave a 21 yard free instead for a minor incident on the previous passer. Strange. Black and yellow card decisions completely inconsistent.   How PG1 have any complaints about Snoop is beyond me.  Aghagallon's elation conveniently masks any feelings of being aggrieved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 26, 2022, 10:19:01 AM
Yes they had. The red card was issued just before the start of ET but it is deemed part of original game. Same as the Armagh v Galway fiasco

Ah. I am not doubting you - I had no idea what was going on and am never too sure how accurate some things I read here are haha.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 26, 2022, 10:27:51 AM
If Cargin had have had shivers on the teamsheet for extra time they'd have ended up playing with 14 but that cargin management team are cuter than that.
Disgraceful call from the umpire going by the video of the incident I'm sure Pat will be free to play in County final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 10:30:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 26, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
We certainly got value for money from the games this weekend! Both senior games enthralling contests that went right to the wire.

Commiserations to both Creggan and PG1. It will be a tough one for both teams to take but both teams will be back strong again next year.

Congratulations and good luck to both Cargin and Aghagallon in the final.

So despite all the great and good (referees) gathered on the Dunsilly pitch on Saturday evening none of those eagle eyed individuals saw that a mistake was made when C Mc D theatrically brandished that red card in front of Pat Shivers.

Leaving Cargin to get on with it a man down in a gut sapping extra twenty minutes...

I thought Cargin lined out with 15 in extra time? Was it not Creggan who were a man down when Ruairi McCann was black carded?
And you thougt wrong......did you miss the ref brandishing the red card like a matador to big Pat.....Ruairi Mc Cann's black card kept him out for ten mns.
Cargin were down a man for the duration.......

yes seen the red card. i was at the match. It was between full time and extra time tho. Cargin played all of et with 15 men. Creggan played with 14 after Ruairi McCann was sent off. Were u at the match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 10:38:17 AM
Might be the reporter has an issue with being further away from the pitch than usual as he now has a problem with him and inside the wire after congratulating the officials after the LD game  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 10:44:28 AM
We've still a relegation playoff to play at some stage as well!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2022, 10:57:58 AM
That must be tough for Ballymena with them being out as they need to keep training. I see the division 2 playoff is done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 10:38:17 AM
Might be the reporter has an issue with being further away from the pitch than usual as he now has a problem with him and inside the wire after congratulating the officials after the LD game  ;D
Think you need to have a wee word with yourself.....B Mc T covered the game.....u wanna transfer....seems u have come down the road pining for a change.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 11:05:27 AM
Can we clarify, are you allowed inside the wire at the moment?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2022, 11:07:41 AM
Some referees on here
As MR2 always says there's plenty of courses and training to do it and no one will be turned away
Both refs made mistakes during the course of 80 plus minutes, which all refs do. But there wasn't one main contentious one that any of the losing teams can feel aggrieved about.
McDonald' and Laverty can be happy enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on September 26, 2022, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2022, 11:07:41 AM
Some referees on here
As MR2 always says there's plenty of courses and training to do it and no one will be turned away
Both refs made mistakes during the course of 80 plus minutes, which all refs do. But there wasn't one main contentious one that any of the losing teams can feel aggrieved about.
McDonald' and Laverty can be happy enough.


Well said HH, there are posters on here giving off about referees making "mistakes" in the middle of a high pressure games, and yet they can't count to 15 leaning over a wire..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 11:05:27 AM
Can we clarify, are you allowed inside the wire at the moment?
Are you using the Royal plural  or just being nosey....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on September 26, 2022, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2022, 11:07:41 AM
Some referees on here
As MR2 always says there's plenty of courses and training to do it and no one will be turned away
Both refs made mistakes during the course of 80 plus minutes, which all refs do. But there wasn't one main contentious one that any of the losing teams can feel aggrieved about.
McDonald' and Laverty can be happy enough.


Well said HH, there are posters on here giving off about referees making "mistakes" in the middle of a high pressure games, and yet they can't count to 15 leaning over a wire..
Was the umpire who made the 'mistake, .....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 11:31:26 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 11:05:27 AM
Can we clarify, are you allowed inside the wire at the moment?

What's this about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 26, 2022, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on September 26, 2022, 09:57:55 AM
I thought Sean Laverty refereed the game very well. It's hard to be too critical of PG1 in my opinion. They looked the better side for the majority of the game. I think John McKeever has certainly brought them on this year and from a neutrals point of view, I would hope he stays on with the team and continues to develop them. Himself and the lads must be completely sick this morning. Football is cruel. Big Niall must be kicking himself he didn't round the keeper for an easy goal rather than a point towards the end of normal time that would have put them 7 up! Aghagallon must be credited though. They are very dangerous on the counter attack and have quality footballers in the final third. They will need all of those lads to step things up in the final for 60 minutes as opposed to 15-20 minutes if they are to make a good go of it however.

I don't see any improvement in Ports under JMK at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2022, 11:41:41 AM
This makes great reading.

Still no city teams in the IFC or SFC finals.

The city football is dead. Up the SW.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 11:55:05 AM
One was merely making an enquiry, however should we assume given your curt reply and reluctance to answer that you are indeed not permitted to enter the boundary of the wire

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 11:05:27 AM
Can we clarify, are you allowed inside the wire at the moment?
Are you using the Royal plural  or just being nosey....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 26, 2022, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 26, 2022, 12:02:47 PM
Disgraceful, if true.
The press should have a free run at giving mouthfuls of abuse at officials as they leave the field.
In my opinion.

What happened here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Nothing to see here Micky, unless CB can shed any light
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Nothing to see here Micky, unless CB can shed any light
[/quote

Have not uttered a single word to any official.leaving a pitch.....be it Dunsilly, Toome or elsewhere......
Ref v L D was excellent as was C Mc D on Sat.....

Maybe mixing up colours.....some did have words with ref and county officials Sat evening...........did seemed a bit miffed when I walked past.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 01:34:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Nothing to see here Micky, unless CB can shed any light
[/quote

Have not uttered a single word to any official.leaving a pitch.....be it Dunsilly, Toome or elsewhere......
Ref v L D was excellent as was C Mc D on Sat.....

Maybe mixing up colours.....some did have words with ref and county officials Sat evening...........did seemed a bit miffed when I walked past.......

Boys going after an innocent man here ffs! Free Country Bumpkin!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 01:36:27 PM

So it's a miscarriage of justice then?
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Nothing to see here Micky, unless CB can shed any light
[/quote

Have not uttered a single word to any official.leaving a pitch.....be it Dunsilly, Toome or elsewhere......
Ref v L D was excellent as was C Mc D on Sat.....

Maybe mixing up colours.....some did have words with ref and county officials Sat evening...........did seemed a bit miffed when I walked past.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 01:37:06 PM
It looks that way! A lot of false allegations!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 01:37:06 PM
It looks that way! A lot of false allegations!

And we're you.not one of the seeds of such....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 03:05:28 PM
If we could just have clarification as to whether such a ban is in place??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:06:02 PM
Surprise developments every day......but a Creggan player seeking a transfer to Erin's Own is a rare occurrence......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:12:58 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 26, 2022, 03:05:28 PM
If we could just have clarification as to whether such a ban is in place??

No such notice from county received........
Thanks for your kind concern......but when did you get that transfer.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 26, 2022, 03:38:17 PM
Assume Cargin/Aghagallon will both be wearing away strips for the final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 26, 2022, 03:38:17 PM
Assume Cargin/Aghagallon will both be wearing away strips for the final?

Well Kickham's were kind enough to wear away strips in last year's final and this year's semi......cannot see a problem......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 04:02:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 01:37:06 PM
It looks that way! A lot of false allegations!

And we're you.not one of the seeds of such....?

No, definitely nothing to do with me. Another innocent man here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 26, 2022, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 26, 2022, 03:38:17 PM
Assume Cargin/Aghagallon will both be wearing away strips for the final?

Well Kickham's were kind enough to wear away strips in last year's final and this year's semi......cannot see a problem......
Fact check - Creggan wore home jersey in last years final. Aghagallon wore away jersey.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 04:28:16 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 26, 2022, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 26, 2022, 03:38:17 PM
Assume Cargin/Aghagallon will both be wearing away strips for the final?

Well Kickham's were kind enough to wear away strips in last year's final and this year's semi......cannot see a problem......
Fact check - Creggan wore home jersey in last years final. Aghagallon wore away jersey.

Do Creggan even have an away jersey? Cargin's black tops and Aghagallon's white tops are the fair option for the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 26, 2022, 04:54:36 PM
I think that would be fair JS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 04:57:32 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 26, 2022, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 26, 2022, 03:38:17 PM
Assume Cargin/Aghagallon will both be wearing away strips for the final?

Well Kickham's were kind enough to wear away strips in last year's final and this year's semi......cannot see a problem......
Fact check - Creggan wore home jersey in last years final.and despite losing a coin toss with Cargin in the semi 2021 they refused to change.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 26, 2022, 07:59:03 PM
Fintan Burke hurt for Creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 26, 2022, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 03:06:02 PM
Surprise developments every day......but a Creggan player seeking a transfer to Erin's Own is a rare occurrence......
Explain CB please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 26, 2022, 09:25:50 PM
Has the final been set in stone for corrigan or will the county
Board move it to Dunsilly? I'd say both teams competing would prefer the surface in dunsilly to corrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2022, 09:30:32 PM
I thought the Corrigan surface was immaculate, carpetesque  no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Upandover on September 26, 2022, 09:42:22 PM
Best surfaces ive seen this year has been the davitts and glenavy, thats including corrigan and dunsilly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:42:56 PM
Seems the card player Whist ha transferred down the road and I e of their senior players has intimated a wish to wear the green as well.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 10:31:12 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2022, 09:25:50 PM
Has the final been set in stone for corrigan or will the county
Board move it to Dunsilly? I'd say both teams competing would prefer the surface in dunsilly to corrigan.

Dunsilly would be my choice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 26, 2022, 10:42:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 26, 2022, 09:42:56 PM
Seems the card player Whist ha transferred down the road and I e of their senior players has intimated a wish to wear the green as well.....


Come on man ,spit it out !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 26, 2022, 11:42:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 26, 2022, 10:31:12 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 26, 2022, 09:25:50 PM



Has the final been set in stone for corrigan or will the county
Board move it to Dunsilly? I'd say both teams competing would prefer the surface in dunsilly to corrigan.



Dunsilly would be my choice




Final is in Corrigan Park 9th October 3PM
Health&safety issue in Dunsilly with a grass bank only place for biggest gathering of supporters
Plenty people will be at the game and needing a seat also
An interesting game also Aghagallon are better than most give them credit for and will give cargin a difficult hours football that's a guarantee, its all on the day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 27, 2022, 09:58:02 AM
With Cargin in the Minor (u-17 ) semi final on the same day as the senior decider the CCC have been less than helpful in their planning...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 27, 2022, 11:30:05 AM
Bannside must still be trying to figure out how PG1 havent made the final...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 27, 2022, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 27, 2022, 11:30:05 AM
Bannside must still be trying to figure out how PG1 havent made the final...
A gutting day for Casements, but that's sport for you. We've all been there and just have to bounce back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 27, 2022, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 27, 2022, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 27, 2022, 11:30:05 AM
Bannside must still be trying to figure out how PG1 havent made the final...
A gutting day for Casements, but that's sport for you. We've all been there and just have to bounce back

Indeed.....had the privilege of covering Cargin winning ten senior titles but will never forget those eleven days I had to record a defeat in a final.

Never  minding a number of semi defeats....

Such if life......BS composed many a requiem for Erins Own.....life can be a bitch.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 27, 2022, 01:07:16 PM
No doubt. The manner of that defeat in particular be a tough pill to swallow.

Penny for mckeevers thoughts...goal at his mercy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 27, 2022, 01:19:37 PM
Should have ripped the net tried to be cute and take the point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 27, 2022, 01:21:09 PM
Hard to see much improvement in that portglenone side to the one that lost last years semi.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2022, 01:24:42 PM
A whole load of Portglenone bashing here.

I was always told to be nice to people on the way of life as you'll never know when you need a hand up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 27, 2022, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 27, 2022, 01:19:37 PM
Should have ripped the net tried to be cute and take the point

In fairness when he took the point i thought st marys were dead and buried. Hindsight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 27, 2022, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 27, 2022, 01:21:09 PM
Hard to see much improvement in that portglenone side to the one that lost last years semi.

Exactly.....not any improvement visible.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 27, 2022, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 27, 2022, 01:19:37 PM
Should have ripped the net tried to be cute and take the point

How a footballer of his experience didn't back himself to get the goal and kill the game I will never know.

Creggan had a similar (maybe a bit more difficult)opportunity on Saturday and it was blasted over as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Saw a twitter post today that for the first time in history a number of clubs could potentially win an all ireland double in hurling and football.   Perhaps a provincial double anyhow.    Moycullen, Ballyboden St. Enda's, Cratloe, Eire Og (Ennis), Kilmacud Crokes,
Naas, Na Fianna, Slaughtneil, St. Finbarrs

Dual clubs are back.   Can we now end the excuses in antrim that a dual club is somehow at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2022, 01:44:25 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Saw a twitter post today that for the first time in history
anambra of clubs could potentially win an all ireland double in hurling and football.   Perhaps a provincial.double.anyhow.    Moycullen, Ballyboden St. Enda's
Cratloe
Eire Og (Ennis)
Kilmacud Crokes
Naas
Na Fianna
Slaughtneil
St. Finbarrs

Dual.clubs are back.   Can we now end the excuses in antrim that a dual.club is somehow at a disadvantage.

Gerard McCann as well for cargin.   Mckeever should have more in his locker than conor mccann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 27, 2022, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Saw a twitter post today that for the first time in history
anambra of clubs could potentially win an all ireland double in hurling and football.   Perhaps a provincial.double.anyhow.    Moycullen, Ballyboden St. Enda's
Cratloe
Eire Og (Ennis)
Kilmacud Crokes
Naas
Na Fianna
Slaughtneil
St. Finbarrs

Dual.clubs are back.   Can we now end the excuses in antrim that a dual.club is somehow at a disadvantage.

Can Dunloy not be included ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 27, 2022, 01:54:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 27, 2022, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Saw a twitter post today that for the first time in history
anambra of clubs could potentially win an all ireland double in hurling and football.   Perhaps a provincial.double.anyhow.    Moycullen, Ballyboden St. Enda's
Cratloe
Eire Og (Ennis)
Kilmacud Crokes
Naas
Na Fianna
Slaughtneil
St. Finbarrs

Dual.clubs are back.   Can we now end the excuses in antrim that a dual.club is somehow at a disadvantage.

Can Dunloy not be included ?
Senior in both I'm assuming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2022, 02:03:47 PM
I am taking the the tweet by @conormckenna98 as seniors only. it also adds Upperchurch Drombane to the list. There would be more teams than that with hopes as well. 

Dual sporting clubs should be beneficial to development not another excuse to be added to the long list within Antrim by certain posters.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2022, 02:07:48 PM
Would Naas be in Leinster senior?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2022, 04:08:48 PM
we haven't any
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 27, 2022, 04:16:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 27, 2022, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 27, 2022, 01:21:09 PM
Hard to see much improvement in that portglenone side to the one that lost last years semi.

Exactly.....not any improvement visible.....

Heart breaking for Casements and its understandable why people would say that there has been no improvement. Despite Peter Canavan coaching them theres no real evidence of improvement. They have been nearly men for a few years but this year was wide open for them, they had the game won 3 times and still lost. They just cannot beat the top teams or win tight games or semi finals.

Aghagallon to tighten Cargin? I can't see it but who knows. Last years final will stand to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Man Marker on September 27, 2022, 04:26:32 PM
Quote from: ck on August 29, 2022, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 29, 2022, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 29, 2022, 12:16:55 AM
John Mc Keever has PG1 well primed, no one getting carried away. We know there's nothing out there that's not beatable by any stretch. On today's performance we wouldn't fear anyone. But long way to go.
You beat a division 2 team

They can only beat what is drawn against them in all fairness. They'll beat Cargin when the time comes. Mark my words.

Hard to take your previous analysis seriously after this out pouring of wisdom  :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2022, 04:27:30 PM
He can't be proven wrong to be fair  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 27, 2022, 04:39:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2022, 04:27:30 PM
He can't be proven wrong to be fair  ;D
The time just hasn't came yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 27, 2022, 05:14:56 PM
The key words are when the time comes  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2022, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 27, 2022, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 04:08:48 PM
we haven't any
Of all the dual clubs there are in Ireland. There are 9 who are still in their respective county championships at senior level.
I'm not really sure that is telling you what you want it to. But tear on by all means.

This is quite sad.   Defensive about dual.clubs, cheeky, and not reading that I said it wasn't my note but another persons.   Someone is catfishing during the referees ban on social media methinks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2022, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 27, 2022, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 04:08:48 PM
we haven't any
Of all the dual clubs there are in Ireland. There are 9 who are still in their respective county championships at senior level.
I'm not really sure that is telling you what you want it to. But tear on by all means.

But it tells me in a 32 county all ireland there is somewhere approximately a quarter of all counties where a dual.club is competitive at both codes.   Not bad for the supposedly impossible achievement that some in Antrim would have you believe. As usual, short cuts and excuses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on September 27, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
Hearing the ref for senior county final gonna be conall roberts st johns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 27, 2022, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on September 27, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
Hearing the ref for senior county final gonna be conall roberts st johns

Where did you hear that, Wolf?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on September 27, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
I have my sources..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 28, 2022, 07:37:35 AM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on September 27, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
Hearing the ref for senior county final gonna be conall roberts st johns


If this is accurate I am sure he will do a good job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2022, 09:18:25 AM
Good young ref. He'll be ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 28, 2022, 09:37:11 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 28, 2022, 06:14:48 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 27, 2022, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2022, 04:08:48 PM
we haven't any
Of all the dual clubs there are in Ireland. There are 9 who are still in their respective county championships at senior level.
I'm not really sure that is telling you what you want it to. But tear on by all means.

But it tells me in a 32 county all ireland there is somewhere approximately a quarter of all counties where a dual.club is competitive at both codes.   Not bad for the supposedly impossible achievement that some in Antrim would have you believe. As usual, short cuts and excuses
I don't believe that anyone said that it is impossible. Just that it can be difficult. As you point out, that appears to be the case in 3/4 of the counties in Ireland.
Regardless, your championing of the dual club is to be admired. The promotion of our national games is what it is all about. No doubt you raise this with your own club regularly.

I certainly do believe every club should provide both codes for both genders. The  impediments to this appear to be lack of tradition, culture of either hurling/football and interest.  It then becomes a time and money issue for the county board/gaelfast in trying to create that tradition within said club. dropping a bag of footballs in loughgeil and coming back a year later is unlikely to foster that culture.    Suggestions welcome to address the issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MajorShields26 on September 28, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Will winners of Antrim SFC finally be able to make an impact on ulster and all Ireland series? If go out early again, underage coaching in clubs will have to come under scrutiny with inability to produce top players to play for clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 28, 2022, 11:09:45 AM
It wont be Cargin or Aghagallon coming under scrutiny anyway mate, consistently have strong underage teams and bringing players through. Strange take on it all if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 28, 2022, 11:18:51 AM
Barring St Galls, Antrim clubs havent gone too well in Ulster. Doesnt mean they are bad teams though. Creggan should have beaten Clann Eireann last year and Cargin had Gweedore on the ropes a few years ago in Corrigan.

Just look at Tyrone clubs, only 1 club ever has ever won Ulster (errigal). Didnt affect them too much at county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2022, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: MajorShields26 on September 28, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Will winners of Antrim SFC finally be able to make an impact on ulster and all Ireland series? If go out early again, underage coaching in clubs will have to come under scrutiny with inability to produce top players to play for clubs.

Here is an alternative take on that. Watching Cargin Creggan on saturday I don't believe our teams are "game savvy" enough and when it comes to ulster then the opposition are. If you watch analysis of the big counties etc you will see tactical fouling very far up the field. That did not happen on either side for me. I like not seeing it don't get me wrong but if you're in a close match with a team that does that then you will lose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 28, 2022, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2022, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: MajorShields26 on September 28, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Will winners of Antrim SFC finally be able to make an impact on ulster and all Ireland series? If go out early again, underage coaching in clubs will have to come under scrutiny with inability to produce top players to play for clubs.

Here is an alternative take on that. Watching Cargin Creggan on saturday I don't believe our teams are "game savvy" enough and when it comes to ulster then the opposition are. If you watch analysis of the big counties etc you will see tactical fouling very far up the field. That did not happen on either side for me. I like not seeing it don't get me wrong but if you're in a close match with a team that does that then you will lose.

Have you really paid attention...?
Cargin had a number of 18 year olds on their panel with several having tasted senior championship action this year.
They have featured in the last four on the Minor championship trail in the past four seasons...and a few in the present under 17 side are certain seniors...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2022, 02:24:22 PM
Who me? I never mentioned underage at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 28, 2022, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 28, 2022, 11:33:58 AM
I don't necessarily disagree with anything you say here but on one hand you accuse others of "excuses and shortcuts" and on the other......well......

i don't see a suggestion to address the situation. secondly i'm not sure you understand the point made and are being obtuse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 28, 2022, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2022, 02:24:22 PM
Who me? I never mentioned underage at all.

Sorry bout that it was reply to M S......k
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 28, 2022, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2022, 11:21:16 AM
Quote from: MajorShields26 on September 28, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Will winners of Antrim SFC finally be able to make an impact on ulster and all Ireland series? If go out early again, underage coaching in clubs will have to come under scrutiny with inability to produce top players to play for clubs.

Here is an alternative take on that. Watching Cargin Creggan on saturday I don't believe our teams are "game savvy" enough and when it comes to ulster then the opposition are. If you watch analysis of the big counties etc you will see tactical fouling very far up the field. That did not happen on either side for me. I like not seeing it don't get me wrong but if you're in a close match with a team that does that then you will lose.

If PG1 had made a tactical foul at the end they would be in the final.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2022, 03:58:02 PM
The same could be said about Creggan. They should have been fouling Cargin when they were in their FB line and slowing every attack down as much as possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 28, 2022, 04:17:06 PM
A game is played over 60mins lads.
Not unnoticed from Saturday night was the unsporting nature of the Creggan manager, seems to have got carried away with his one win last year. Never appeared to shake any opposition players or managers hands after the game. Instead chose to look for the referee in the car park afterwards. The rest of their management and players more than gracious in defeat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 28, 2022, 04:23:54 PM
Can't speak for them but I'm sure Ronan Fabian and KD aren't too worried about shaking hands with GMcN from what I seen from the hill he acted a maggot start to finish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 28, 2022, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 28, 2022, 04:17:06 PM
A game is played over 60mins lads.
Not unnoticed from Saturday night was the unsporting nature of the Creggan manager, seems to have got carried away with his one win last year. Never appeared to shake any opposition players or managers hands after the game. Instead chose to look for the referee in the car park afterwards. The rest of their management and players more than gracious in defeat.

Wonder will G Mc C who is inn The employment of the county be called to answer for his antics.....?
Perhaps not ........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 28, 2022, 04:57:18 PM
Always those with the dirtiest hands looking another man hung
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 28, 2022, 05:17:50 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 28, 2022, 04:57:18 PM
Always those with the dirtiest hands looking another man hung
So one who would hide in the green and white emerges ......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on September 28, 2022, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 28, 2022, 07:37:35 AM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on September 27, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
Hearing the ref for senior county final gonna be conall roberts st johns


If this is accurate I am sure he will do a good job

Hopefully- he is a young ref and a county final is a big step up for any young whistler
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2022, 07:44:22 AM
If he's anything like his uncle Jim he'll be well fit for it, good luck to the young man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 12:47:22 PM
Appointments have been made official on the Antrim Webpage, I distance myself from the thread every year at Championship as you wouldn't believe how paranoid people get when discussing games, so easier to step away.

Would like to congratulate Conall on his appointment he'll be more than capable of covering the game and well assisted with those by his side.

Also well done to the 2 new posters who just registered to give the name of the referee, must have been exciting to get the news out ;D

Oh where do I start? CB oh dear, lets hope its not true  ;D

Spike I've only one username here and not banned from speaking, lets see how those teams fair, Kilmacuds have one player that does both btw, others have 2 or 3 none more that 5 or 6 S'niel is the exception and an exceptional group at that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2022, 01:16:09 PM
Cargin were hoping for MR2 but unfortunately it wasn't to be 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 29, 2022, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 12:47:22 PM
Appointments have been made official on the Antrim Webpage, I distance myself from the thread every year at Championship as you wouldn't believe how paranoid people get when discussing games, so easier to step away.

Would like to congratulate Conall on his appointment he'll be more than capable of covering the game and well assisted with those by his side.

Also well done to the 2 new posters who just registered to give the name of the referee, must have been exciting to get the news out ;D

Oh where do I start? CB oh dear, lets hope its not true  ;D

Spike I've only one username here and not banned from speaking, lets see how those teams fair, Kilmacuds have one player that does both btw, others have 2 or 3 none more that 5 or 6 S'niel is the exception and an exceptional group at that
Bizarre that one surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2022, 01:16:09 PM
Cargin were hoping for MR2 but unfortunately it wasn't to be 😂

These things happen, always next year  ;D

I'm their good luck charm, they have only lost one game with me  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
How many alts do you have now MR2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 29, 2022, 02:06:49 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2022, 07:44:22 AM
If he's anything like his uncle Jim he'll be well fit for it, good luck to the young man.

Jim is his Grandad and has mentored him since they day and hour he started, big things planned for him i'm sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
How many alts do you have now MR2?

Christ! Can only deal with the one to be fair !!

Must have the bunting all over the show now!! Get the school kids singing!!

Physio's must be earning their money now for the next few weeks with all that cramp the lads had at the end!!

The big question is who won the toss for the jersey's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 29, 2022, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
How many alts do you have now MR2?

Christ! Can only deal with the one to be fair !!

Must have the bunting all over the show now!! Get the school kids singing!!

Physio's must be earning their money now for the next few weeks with all that cramp the lads had at the end!!

The big question is who won the toss for the jersey's?
Other big question, are the referees union unhappy with all the negative coverage about the weekend semis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 29, 2022, 02:39:04 PM
I am not sure how they feel about the weekend, however I am hearing potential unrest outside of Belfast as there does not appear to be any referees past the Applegreen who are capable of doing a final

Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2022, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
How many alts do you have now MR2?

Christ! Can only deal with the one to be fair !!

Must have the bunting all over the show now!! Get the school kids singing!!

Physio's must be earning their money now for the next few weeks with all that cramp the lads had at the end!!

The big question is who won the toss for the jersey's?
Other big question, are the referees union unhappy with all the negative coverage about the weekend semis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 29, 2022, 02:06:49 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2022, 07:44:22 AM




If he's anything like his uncle Jim he'll be well fit for it, good luck to the young man.

Jim is his Grandad and has mentored him since they day and hour he started, big things planned for him i'm sure.



Everyday is a school day
Like I say he will do well and good luck to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 29, 2022, 04:12:07 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2022, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
How many alts do you have now MR2?

Christ! Can only deal with the one to be fair !!

Must have the bunting all over the show now!! Get the school kids singing!!

Physio's must be earning their money now for the next few weeks with all that cramp the lads had at the end!!

The big question is who won the toss for the jersey's?
Other big question, are the referees union unhappy with all the negative coverage about the weekend semis?

In fairness I have not heard any complaints about Snoop. As a neutral I thought he had a very good game. The frustration seems to be from other Semi
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 04:39:37 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 29, 2022, 02:39:04 PM
I am not sure how they feel about the weekend, however I am hearing potential unrest outside of Belfast as there does not appear to be any referees past the Applegreen who are capable of doing a final

Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2022, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
How many alts do you have now MR2?

Christ! Can only deal with the one to be fair !!

Must have the bunting all over the show now!! Get the school kids singing!!

Physio's must be earning their money now for the next few weeks with all that cramp the lads had at the end!!

The big question is who won the toss for the jersey's?
Other big question, are the referees union unhappy with all the negative coverage about the weekend semis?

Not sure I think over the last few years you had Sean Eamon Karol all doing recent finals and maybe 4 city referee's doing the rest, as for the hurling its pretty evenly match there also..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 29, 2022, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D
Hopefully that umpire with that sees the imaginary red card incidents is given a break, he gets a lot of gigs recently!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2022, 04:59:48 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D

Hey, we won plenty up the country back in the day  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 29, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
So just wondering if Jerome and his live stream had not been available would Pat Shivers have missed a county final....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 29, 2022, 05:07:55 PM
I suspect so, do we actually know what Pat was supposed to have done?

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 29, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
So just wondering if Jerome and his live stream had not been available would Pat Shivers have missed a county final....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 29, 2022, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on September 28, 2022, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 28, 2022, 07:37:35 AM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on September 27, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
Hearing the ref for senior county final gonna be conall roberts st johns


If this is accurate I am sure he will do a good job

Hopefully- he is a young ref and a county final is a big step up for any young whistler

Good luck with the game😁
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2022, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D
topd you all before belfast GAA not in good way. Galefast doing better with that schools league but needs turbo charge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 29, 2022, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2022, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D
topd you all before belfast GAA not in good way. Galefast doing better with that schools league but needs turbo charge

Have heard it's just been really rushed & seems to be ticking a box
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on September 29, 2022, 11:40:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 29, 2022, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2022, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D
topd you all before belfast GAA not in good way. Galefast doing better with that schools league but needs turbo charge

Have heard it's just been really rushed & seems to be ticking a box


What were the games like Kidder?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 30, 2022, 08:21:56 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 29, 2022, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 29, 2022, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 29, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
Belfast venue and Belfast ref, it's great the city can play their part  ;D
topd you all before belfast GAA not in good way. Galefast doing better with that schools league but needs turbo charge

Have heard it's just been really rushed & seems to be ticking a box
I wouldn't complain about it, it will improve every year if given time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 30, 2022, 09:33:44 AM
What's this league and what schools are involved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2022, 09:41:30 AM
Is it not all the antrim schools (not just Belfast)?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on September 30, 2022, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 29, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
So just wondering if Jerome and his live stream had not been available would Pat Shivers have missed a county final....?

I heard it was from an incident in the tunnel so nothing to do with Jerome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 30, 2022, 09:56:13 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 30, 2022, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 29, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
So just wondering if Jerome and his live stream had not been available would Pat Shivers have missed a county final....?

I heard it was from an incident in the tunnel so nothing to do with Jerome.
Not true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 30, 2022, 09:57:26 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on September 30, 2022, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 29, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
So just wondering if Jerome and his live stream had not been available would Pat Shivers have missed a county final....?

I heard it was from an incident in the tunnel so nothing to do with Jerome.


100% not true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 30, 2022, 11:55:05 AM

I wouldn't complain about it, it will improve every year if given time
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Saw a game on Tuesday this week, decent game and all the lads who played will have benefitted from it. There would have been a good number of Down club players as well as good representation from our own county. Can only be a good thing and I hope the games continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 30, 2022, 05:19:04 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO
I can assure you minds are fully focused on Aghagallon, also Pat doesn't have any ban
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2022, 08:02:39 PM
Cb is that a threat  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 30, 2022, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

Would you meet MR2 for a pint?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 08:39:22 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 30, 2022, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

Would you meet MR2 for a pint?

Never indulged in such....leave the sipping to the wife.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2022, 08:02:39 PM
Cb is that a threat  :o

Certainly not......what u mean.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 09:01:23 PM
Just in from watching our lads training......Mick Mc Cann leaving the rest trailing in his majestic wake.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

No idea? Ok  ;D

Either you don't want me to ref Cargin or you do? I'm confused
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

No idea? Ok  ;D

Either you don't want me to ref Cargin or you do? I'm confused

Have.no views on such........or Indeed have no influence on such decisions.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 30, 2022, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

No idea? Ok  ;D

Either you don't want me to ref Cargin or you do? I'm confused

Have.no views on such........or Indeed have no influence on such decisions.......

You two need to hug it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 30, 2022, 09:39:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

No idea? Ok  ;D

Either you don't want me to ref Cargin or you do? I'm confused

Have.no views on such........or Indeed have no influence on such decisions.......

Has MR2 ever put you over the wire? What's the reason for all this animosity?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 10:08:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 30, 2022, 09:39:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 30, 2022, 04:43:32 PM
Does Pat only have to serve a 1 game ban? He be back for the Donegal champs ok? Its a winnable game for Cargin IMO

Red card was rescinded....be on board for the final if selected.......

Was yours rescinded? Or behind the wire?

No idea....sure you can carry ant communication when you pluck up the courage to return to Toome....not appeared for a year and am sure you will get a warm.welcome.....

No idea? Ok  ;D

Either you don't want me to ref Cargin or you do? I'm confused

Have.no views on such........or Indeed have no influence on such decisions.......

Has MR2 ever put you over the wire? What's the reason for all this animosity?

Have no animosity within.....to refs.....indeed I have enjoyed long standing friendship with several lasting a ling time...
Jim Murray,John Hough, Gerry Mc Cooey.....etc....
Never put outside the wire....and have endured a lotta poor ref decisions in a long time watching, and listening.

Been involved with Erins Own, all my life and haave covered 11 final reversals.....and more semi defeats...having recorded all for the delight of some..
Still here with no negative baggage.....seen it all and endured...




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 10:16:59 PM
Involved? Like being a member of Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 30, 2022, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 10:16:59 PM
Involved? Like being a member of Cargin?
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Followed in a family tradition as a player ember and once a member of Coiste Baniste....
Seen it all and endured..that is involvement....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 01, 2022, 08:49:02 AM
IMO......Oliver Kellly was by far the best County Chairman ever to hold office and we will never see his like again.....
A paid administrator runs the show now......and seems he has descended on a cloud from above.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 01, 2022, 09:44:41 AM
Next you will be telling us you write the Saffron Gael reports for Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Who's going to play CB in the movie?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 01, 2022, 10:45:23 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on October 01, 2022, 09:44:41 AM
Next you will be telling us you write the Saffron Gael reports for Cargin.
Can do for you if you ditch the camouflage and come out unto the light..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2022, 10:54:22 AM
Jeepers lads would you ever give it a rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 01, 2022, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2022, 10:54:22 AM
Jeepers lads would you ever give it a rest.

Please yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Assuming Cargin get past aghagallon they have a chance in ulster this year with the draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 01, 2022, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Assuming Cargin get past aghagallon they have a chance in ulster this year with the draw.


Best assuming nothing it will take a big performance to beat this Aghagallon team that is for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 01, 2022, 01:43:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Assuming Cargin get past aghagallon they have a chance in ulster this year with the draw.

They certainly have the tools at their disposal to go deep in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 01, 2022, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 01, 2022, 01:43:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Assuming Cargin get past aghagallon they have a chance in ulster this year with the draw.

They certainly have the tools at their disposal to go deep in ulster.

Jeez i would really disagree with that, nothing to suggest they will give Ulster a rattle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 01, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Some sh#t talked on here, talk about ulster after the final next week when we see who's going to represent Antrim in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Some sh#t talked on here, talk about ulster after the final next week when we see who's going to represent Antrim in it.

Of course but you'd be silly not to have one eye on Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2022, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Some sh#t talked on here, talk about ulster after the final next week when we see who's going to represent Antrim in it.

Of course
But I think these guys  are just looking for a bite  ;D
You're first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 01, 2022, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Some sh#t talked on here, talk about ulster after the final next week when we see who's going to represent Antrim in it.

Of course but you'd be silly not to have one eye on Ulster

Play winners of Donegal, then Derry/Tyrone.

Forget about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 02, 2022, 01:51:59 AM
Quote from: toby47 on October 01, 2022, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Some sh#t talked on here, talk about ulster after the final next week when we see who's going to represent Antrim in it.

Of course but you'd be silly not to have one eye on Ulster

Play winners of Donegal, then Derry/Tyrone.

Forget about it


Cargin/aghagallon will have as good a chance as any in ulster.

Theres no bad teams in the provincials. All on the day. Just have to look at creggan last year, basically had the game won in the 1st half and just switched off. Ive no doubt they would have gave derrygonnelly a better game in the semi than what clann eirann did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 02, 2022, 07:17:41 AM
Quote from: geezer on October 02, 2022, 01:51:59 AM
Quote from: toby47 on October 01, 2022, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Some sh#t talked on here, talk about ulster after the final next week when we see who's going to represent Antrim in it.

Of course but you'd be silly not to have one eye on Ulster

Play winners of Donegal, then Derry/Tyrone.

Forget about it


Cargin/aghagallon will have as good a chance as any in ulster.

Theres no bad teams in the provincials. All on the day. Just have to look at creggan last year, basically had the game won in the 1st half and just switched off. Ive no doubt they would have gave derrygonnelly a better game in the semi than what clann eirann did.

Any team that does ok in ulster generally has been in it a few times before they make any headway. Cargin have been in it a right few now and will certainly have to be taken serious by the Donegal champs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 02, 2022, 07:25:32 AM
Normally wouldn't take a team 2nd from bottom in the league seriously but it's a false economy. You boys are dangerous Jim and with the experience of last years final which you never turned up for makes it more likely you will turn up for this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 02, 2022, 08:23:45 AM
Was at the st eunans kilcar game last night. I was impressed with st eunans. Cargin will have their work cut out but its not beyond them. Plenty of experience in the tean
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 02, 2022, 09:26:30 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 02, 2022, 07:25:32 AM
Normally wouldn't take a team 2nd from bottom in the league seriously but it's a false economy. You boys are dangerous Jim and with the experience of last years final which you never turned up for makes it more likely you will turn up for this one.

We will hopefully give a better account of ourselves and our league position isn't reflective of our team but we know we are massively up against it this year again. This Cargin team isn't going away with the talent they're bringing through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 02, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
On my way to Mass this morning I decided to call in to watch our boys train for fews minutes there were more men standing about than training seems a lengthy injury list to contend with before Sundays final
Can't see us being anywhere close to full strength unfortunately for the big one going by that evidence 😞🙏
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 02, 2022, 10:02:08 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 02, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
On my way to Mass this morning I decided to call in to watch our boys train for fews minutes there were more men standing about than training seems a lengthy injury list to contend with before Sundays final
Can't see us being anywhere close to full strength unfortunately for the big one going by that evidence 😞🙏

Sure you've enough for 3 teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 02, 2022, 10:06:21 PM
Saw a good few in owenbeg this evening,  said they were eyeing up their potential ulster semi final opponents
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 10:10:48 PM
I'm going for a

Cargin, Glenravel and O'Donnells treble.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 02, 2022, 10:38:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 02, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
On my way to Mass this morning I decided to call in to watch our boys train for fews minutes there were more men standing about than training seems a lengthy injury list to contend with before Sundays final
Can't see us being anywhere close to full strength unfortunately for the big one going by that evidence 😞🙏

Saving themselves for the tougher challenges that lie ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 02, 2022, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 02, 2022, 10:38:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 02, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
On my way to Mass this morning I decided to call in to watch our boys train for fews minutes there were more men standing about than training seems a lengthy injury list to contend with before Sundays final
Can't see us being anywhere close to full strength unfortunately for the big one going by that evidence 😞🙏

Saving themselves for the tougher challenges that lie ahead.

I was always of the view good players don't need to train
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 04, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Its entertaining enough. The two lads add a bit of character and craic . The instagram account was good craic, cutting the tripe out different players and managers! They have a reasonably good knowledge of the club scene
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 04, 2022, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 04, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Its entertaining enough. The two lads add a bit of character and craic . The instagram account was good craic, cutting the tripe out different players and managers! They have a reasonably good knowledge of the club scene

It's more or a laugh than anything AS SUCH. They cover some amount of games to be fair to them. I love the slagging they give the county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 04, 2022, 12:48:29 PM
Anything to promote the games in Antrim is positive. Fair play to the 2 lads, it's an enjoyable listen and they have a good breadth of knowledge across senior, intermediate and junior. What clubs do they hail from themselves? I assume a southwest outfit AS SSUCCH?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2022, 12:56:10 PM
Who are they? Dessie Donnelly's son (I think his son anyway) from Ballycastle used to do this I think? I wasn't sure who else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 04, 2022, 02:53:04 PM
Its pretty good entertainment and at the back of it all they aren't far wrong in their analysis before and after games about everything from referees to players to managers. All levels covered minor, junior, intermediate and senior as suchhhh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2022, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 04, 2022, 02:53:04 PM
Its pretty good entertainment and at the back of it all they aren't far wrong in their analysis before and after games about everything from referees to players to managers. All levels covered minor, junior, intermediate and senior as suchhhh

Listen to one of the podcasts today, actually never listened to a podcast or in this case two blokes with funny accents talking about the games they watch ;)

Fair play to them will listen to the rest of them when I've a hour to spare!! Neither hiding anonymously either which is great to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2022, 08:29:43 PM
I find them quite hard to listen to tbh. That over exaggerated accent is cringeworthy at best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2022, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2022, 08:29:43 PM
I find them quite hard to listen to tbh. That over exaggerated accent is cringeworthy at best.

They are obviously laying it on thick ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2022, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2022, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2022, 08:29:43 PM
I find them quite hard to listen to tbh. That over exaggerated accent is cringeworthy at best.

They are obviously laying it on thick ;)

Fair play to them, the content and the effort that has went into the podcasts has to be applauded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 04, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
And enjoyable listen and long may it continue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 05, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 04, 2022, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 04, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Its entertaining enough. The two lads add a bit of character and craic . The instagram account was good craic, cutting the tripe out different players and managers! They have a reasonably good knowledge of the club scene

It's more or a laugh than anything AS SUCH. They cover some amount of games to be fair to them. I love the slagging they give the county board.

The only thing I can fault them on is them saying aghagallon is down the soldierstown road- not many aghagallon gaa men hail from that part of town! other than that thy are pretty spot on. They did a few good episodes reviewing Ulster club champo last year good content and banter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 05, 2022, 08:28:35 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 05, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 04, 2022, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 04, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Its entertaining enough. The two lads add a bit of character and craic . The instagram account was good craic, cutting the tripe out different players and managers! They have a reasonably good knowledge of the club scene

It's more or a laugh than anything AS SUCH. They cover some amount of games to be fair to them. I love the slagging they give the county board.

The only thing I can fault them on is them saying aghagallon is down the soldierstown road- not many aghagallon gaa men hail from that part of town! other than that thy are pretty spot on. They did a few good episodes reviewing Ulster club champo last year good content and banter
Is the Soldierstown the Shankill end of Aghagallon Saul 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 05, 2022, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 05, 2022, 08:28:35 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 05, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 04, 2022, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 04, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Its entertaining enough. The two lads add a bit of character and craic . The instagram account was good craic, cutting the tripe out different players and managers! They have a reasonably good knowledge of the club scene

It's more or a laugh than anything AS SUCH. They cover some amount of games to be fair to them. I love the slagging they give the county board.

The only thing I can fault them on is them saying aghagallon is down the soldierstown road- not many aghagallon gaa men hail from that part of town! other than that thy are pretty spot on. They did a few good episodes reviewing Ulster club champo last year good content and banter
Is the Soldierstown the Shankill end of Aghagallon Saul 🤣

Saffron Voice has 2500 followers !
Looking a wee bit of support/ sponsors  now. Hope they dont get over stretched
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 05, 2022, 10:14:33 PM
Had a look at saffron vision earlier and see that Dunloy v St John's on Sunday was £6 for a game being shown deferred later that evening, fuckin chancers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 05, 2022, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 05, 2022, 08:28:35 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 05, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 04, 2022, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 04, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 04, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Many here listen to the Saffron Voice? They getting much traction with it?
Its entertaining enough. The two lads add a bit of character and craic . The instagram account was good craic, cutting the tripe out different players and managers! They have a reasonably good knowledge of the club scene

It's more or a laugh than anything AS SUCH. They cover some amount of games to be fair to them. I love the slagging they give the county board.

The only thing I can fault them on is them saying aghagallon is down the soldierstown road- not many aghagallon gaa men hail from that part of town! other than that thy are pretty spot on. They did a few good episodes reviewing Ulster club champo last year good content and banter
Is the Soldierstown the Shankill end of Aghagallon Saul 🤣

It's Aghalee. Not an aghagallon man from there at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 05, 2022, 11:14:43 PM
Only thing that matters is what road the paddy McNamee Cup is up on Sunday evening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
Was at Dunsilly tonight and a great night of games for the year ten schools that played .. well done to the organisers and kids/coaches .. one thing that struck me, in 50 minutes I'd ran 3.5 miles, that's further that some senior championship games this year for 60+ minutes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 06, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
Was at Dunsilly tonight and a great night of games for the year ten schools that played .. well done to the organisers and kids/coaches .. one thing that struck me, in 50 minutes I'd ran 3.5 miles, that's further that some senior championship games this year for 60+ minutes

Is that not saying more about you than  about the standard of the football?? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 06, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
Was at Dunsilly tonight and a great night of games for the year ten schools that played .. well done to the organisers and kids/coaches .. one thing that struck me, in 50 minutes I'd ran 3.5 miles, that's further that some senior championship games this year for 60+ minutes

Is that not saying more about you than  about the standard of the football?? ;D

If a team plays lateral football I can't just go for a jog lol!

Was great to hear the school coaches (who are senior club coaches btw) shouting "attack, push forward put them under pressure press the kick outs"....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 06, 2022, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 06, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
Was at Dunsilly tonight and a great night of games for the year ten schools that played .. well done to the organisers and kids/coaches .. one thing that struck me, in 50 minutes I'd ran 3.5 miles, that's further that some senior championship games this year for 60+ minutes

Is that not saying more about you than  about the standard of the football?? ;D

If a team plays lateral football I can't just go for a jog lol!

Was great to hear the school coaches (who are senior club coaches btw) shouting "attack, push forward put them under pressure press the kick outs"....

you are right, it was good to hear, although that may be in part due to the poor kick outs.

St Louis got themselves in trouble a fair few times with their kick outs, as the wee lad could only kick out of his hands and wasn't all that accurate with them.

A good show though and some quality players coming through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 12:09:24 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 06, 2022, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 06, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
Was at Dunsilly tonight and a great night of games for the year ten schools that played .. well done to the organisers and kids/coaches .. one thing that struck me, in 50 minutes I'd ran 3.5 miles, that's further that some senior championship games this year for 60+ minutes

Is that not saying more about you than  about the standard of the football?? ;D

If a team plays lateral football I can't just go for a jog lol!

Was great to hear the school coaches (who are senior club coaches btw) shouting "attack, push forward put them under pressure press the kick outs"....

you are right, it was good to hear, although that may be in part due to the poor kick outs.

St Louis got themselves in trouble a fair few times with their kick outs, as the wee lad could only kick out of his hands and wasn't all that accurate with them.

A good show though and some quality players coming through.

Was a 2 point game at one point in the second half and unfortunately for them they didnt kick on.

There are more games tonight I hear, Gaelfast were all over it last night so things are making some progress which can only be a good thing, plus it was streamed on FB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 06, 2022, 12:17:59 PM
Does anyone know if tonight's SHIELD final is also going to be streamed (I know Cup Final is)?

Also, will the Antrim JFC final be streamed on Friday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2022, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 12:09:24 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 06, 2022, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 06, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
Was at Dunsilly tonight and a great night of games for the year ten schools that played .. well done to the organisers and kids/coaches .. one thing that struck me, in 50 minutes I'd ran 3.5 miles, that's further that some senior championship games this year for 60+ minutes

Is that not saying more about you than  about the standard of the football?? ;D

If a team plays lateral football I can't just go for a jog lol!

Was great to hear the school coaches (who are senior club coaches btw) shouting "attack, push forward put them under pressure press the kick outs"....

you are right, it was good to hear, although that may be in part due to the poor kick outs.

St Louis got themselves in trouble a fair few times with their kick outs, as the wee lad could only kick out of his hands and wasn't all that accurate with them.

A good show though and some quality players coming through.

Was a 2 point game at one point in the second half and unfortunately for them they didnt kick on.

There are more games tonight I hear, Gaelfast were all over it last night so things are making some progress which can only be a good thing, plus it was streamed on FB

FB stream was a great idea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2022, 01:46:37 PM
Was up at Dunsilly watching both year 10 finals, well done to all involved. This is a great start to an initiative that can only grow and hopefully evolve into something that every school in Antrim aspires too. Well done Paddy Kelly and everyone else involved. From small acorns and all that....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 06, 2022, 01:49:15 PM
Enjoyed that article on Close today in the IN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 06, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
BTW Bannside, tough going the other week. Being honest, absolutely feel for you and the rest of the Casement connection. Not much else to say. We had the winning of our game to and can only blame ourselves for not putting the game to bed in the second half of normal time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 06, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
BTW Bannside, tough going the other week. Being honest, absolutely feel for you and the rest of the Casement connection. Not much else to say. We had the winning of our game to and can only blame ourselves for not putting the game to bed in the second half of normal time.

Was going to have a chat with him last night but feel its probably still too early!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2022, 02:44:24 PM
Thanks DK, we are still in a state of shock tbh, it will be a long winter! Fair to say there were periods in both games where it looked like PG1 v Creggan final, but that's football. I'm sure both will regroup and go again next year and that makes for decent competition.

Some weekend for the neutrals with both finalists coming from behind to win with the last kick of the ball in injury time after extra time.

Cargin and Aghagallon both refused to go away and got their reward, and whoever wins Mc Namee this year will deserve it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 06, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2022, 01:46:37 PM
Was up at Dunsilly watching both year 10 finals, well done to all involved. This is a great start to an initiative that can only grow and hopefully evolve into something that every school in Antrim aspires too. Well done Paddy Kelly and everyone else involved. From small acorns and all that....

A lot of beginners playing and highlights how far antrim football is behind the other counties with school football, but this is a massive step in the right direction. So whoever is pushing this needs applauded and given more support to continue with the progress. Was talking to a few parents from schools and their young lads don't even have clubs but loved it so they're going to join their nearest club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2022, 04:48:13 PM
Plus JS it allows the gaelfast admin and coaching staff an opportunity to build relationships with schools, and significantly a chance to spot emerging talent and capture in a database that might be useful for underage development squads etc. This has a lot of potential to build on.

The next logical step would be the appointment of a full time coach (start with one and build from there) going into schools who need help from a coaching perspective and taking a bit of responsibility for developing a gaa ethos in schools where this is lacking.

We touched on this subject here before...if three or four schools chipped in to provide funding and Co board funded the rest to pay for the ongoing availability of a coach -it could be money well spent. Maybe that could evolve in time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 06, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
Saw another game today, Aquinas v Rathmore. Another good competitive outing for 40+ lads, and again a mixture of Down and Antrim clubs represented. The Belfast cup is a great initiative, hope it grows and grows.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2022, 08:53:30 PM
Ballymena played St Mals last night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on October 06, 2022, 08:54:37 PM
St Malachys beat St Louis Ballymena.

Was up at the match last night Thought the standard was pretty decent. Great initiative, fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 06, 2022, 09:31:13 PM
It's called the Antrim Cup (not the Belfast Cup) and there were teams in it from all over the county. Organised by Antrim coaching and games development officer, with some vital manpower provided by Gaelfast personnel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 06, 2022, 11:11:15 PM
Sorry - yes Antrim Cup of course.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 06, 2022, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 06, 2022, 08:31:30 PM
Just saw a list of all the winners. I assume this was a Belfast competition?
It should be extended out to the whole county.

Great start anyway.

Lisburn lost to La Salle.

Thought it was well organised and the cameras, scoreboard and general vibe from the occasion was something new and welcoming.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 07, 2022, 11:12:05 AM
https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1578003389941747719?t=MW_khlYfDcpn5ifm2fMIrg&s=19

Worth putting this up here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2022, 11:23:13 AM
Very quiet leading up to the biggest weekend of the year, football wise.. media ban ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2022, 11:37:23 AM
Cargin by 6
Dunloy by 2
Pearses by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 07, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
Cargin by 4
Glenravel by 3
Pearses by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 07, 2022, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 07, 2022, 11:12:05 AM
https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1578003389941747719?t=MW_khlYfDcpn5ifm2fMIrg&s=19

Worth putting this up here.
Great to have someone like Paddy there in that role. Feels like someone cares and isn't just ticking a box
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 07, 2022, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 07, 2022, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 07, 2022, 11:12:05 AM
https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1578003389941747719?t=MW_khlYfDcpn5ifm2fMIrg&s=19

Worth putting this up here.
Great to have someone like Paddy there in that role. Feels like someone cares and isn't just ticking a box

Yeah there are enough of them there just ticking a box
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2022, 12:48:00 PM
So Paddy is there and everyone else is just ticking boxes and doesn't care? Interesting view point from people not involved with Gaelfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 07, 2022, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 06, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2022, 01:46:37 PM
Was up at Dunsilly watching both year 10 finals, well done to all involved. This is a great start to an initiative that can only grow and hopefully evolve into something that every school in Antrim aspires too. Well done Paddy Kelly and everyone else involved. From small acorns and all that....

A lot of beginners playing and highlights how far antrim football is behind the other counties with school football, but this is a massive step in the right direction. So whoever is pushing this needs applauded and given more support to continue with the progress. Was talking to a few parents from schools and their young lads don't even have clubs but loved it so they're going to join their nearest club.



Good to see them start then.  never too late
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 07, 2022, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2022, 09:31:13 PM
It's called the Antrim Cup (not the Belfast Cup) and there were teams in it from all over the county. Organised by Antrim coaching and games development officer, with some vital manpower provided by Gaelfast personnel.

This is an entirely different competition.  This is a localised preseason tournament featuring teams from Belfast that will be playing MacLarnon or C football this season.  Formalised challenge games so to speak.  Personally (being involved in it) it has been brilliant for us as we arent chasing schools to play friendly games and the fixtures run each week.  Regular games trumps training all the time for sure!
This year Aquinas, Rathmore, Knock and St Malachy's joined.  St mary's were invited but decided against it this time around.

The Antrim Cup for Y8/10 gave young lads a chance to get some game time befor etheir Ulster competitions later in the year.  It also gave newbies a chance to give it a go.  It was well run but ran over 3 weeks on the same day at the same time which was tricky for pupils and staff.  It would be good if next year it changed time/day each week.  The finals night and streaming was a great idea and the lads must have loved it!

Plenty of young lads getting football and it's great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2022, 03:49:40 PM
Quote from: outinfront on October 07, 2022, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2022, 09:31:13 PM
It's called the Antrim Cup (not the Belfast Cup) and there were teams in it from all over the county. Organised by Antrim coaching and games development officer, with some vital manpower provided by Gaelfast personnel.

This is an entirely different competition.  This is a localised preseason tournament featuring teams from Belfast that will be playing MacLarnon or C football this season.  Formalised challenge games so to speak.  Personally (being involved in it) it has been brilliant for us as we arent chasing schools to play friendly games and the fixtures run each week.  Regular games trumps training all the time for sure!
This year Aquinas, Rathmore, Knock and St Malachy's joined.  St mary's were invited but decided against it this time around.

The Antrim Cup for Y8/10 gave young lads a chance to get some game time befor etheir Ulster competitions later in the year.  It also gave newbies a chance to give it a go.  It was well run but ran over 3 weeks on the same day at the same time which was tricky for pupils and staff.  It would be good if next year it changed time/day each week.  The finals night and streaming was a great idea and the lads must have loved it!

Plenty of young lads getting football and it's great to see.

Timing is always going to be difficult for kids and teachers, especially at the start of the school year, but when would you fit that in that keeps everyone happy?

Schools have a lot more sport going on in them nowadays, compared to my days you'd two sports hurling/football soccer didn't get a look in and as for those other sports we didnt get a chance outside of athletics of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 07, 2022, 04:37:43 PM
Heavy rain for Sunday! Looking like a repeat of last year. For us to stand a chance I think we need a dry day, Cargin to be off form and for us to have the game of our lives.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on October 07, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2022, 03:49:40 PM
Quote from: outinfront on October 07, 2022, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 06, 2022, 09:31:13 PM
It's called the Antrim Cup (not the Belfast Cup) and there were teams in it from all over the county. Organised by Antrim coaching and games development officer, with some vital manpower provided by Gaelfast personnel.

This is an entirely different competition.  This is a localised preseason tournament featuring teams from Belfast that will be playing MacLarnon or C football this season.  Formalised challenge games so to speak.  Personally (being involved in it) it has been brilliant for us as we arent chasing schools to play friendly games and the fixtures run each week.  Regular games trumps training all the time for sure!
This year Aquinas, Rathmore, Knock and St Malachy's joined.  St mary's were invited but decided against it this time around.

The Antrim Cup for Y8/10 gave young lads a chance to get some game time befor etheir Ulster competitions later in the year.  It also gave newbies a chance to give it a go.  It was well run but ran over 3 weeks on the same day at the same time which was tricky for pupils and staff.  It would be good if next year it changed time/day each week.  The finals night and streaming was a great idea and the lads must have loved it!

Plenty of young lads getting football and it's great to see.

Timing is always going to be difficult for kids and teachers, especially at the start of the school year, but when would you fit that in that keeps everyone happy?

Schools have a lot more sport going on in them nowadays, compared to my days you'd two sports hurling/football soccer didn't get a look in and as for those other sports we didnt get a chance outside of athletics of course

The time of year was perfect for it. I mean just change the day or time of day each week. That means kids and teachers don't miss the same classes every week. Don't get me wrong it is a great initiative, this is just a practical step I would take to keep it developing and improving.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2022, 06:09:21 PM
Yeah can see where that would become an issue, though the teachers that miss the kids won't mind too much  ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 07, 2022, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 07, 2022, 04:37:43 PM
Heavy rain for Sunday! Looking like a repeat of last year. For us to stand a chance I think we need a dry day, Cargin to be off form and for us to have the game of our lives.

Completely disagree. Heavy rain will always be a leveler and allow the underdog to upset any momentum. A dry day and Cargin would run riot!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2022, 08:54:47 PM
Big win for pearses in the junior.  Good to see someone different win the junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2022, 08:56:38 PM
Will go for -
Dunloy and Aghagallon
Know nothing about junior football, with all due respect,so didn't predict
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2022, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 07, 2022, 08:54:47 PM
Big win for pearses in the junior.  Good to see someone different win the junior.

Was a very good performance from Pearse's they were very comfortable on the ball and too their scores well, the step up in Ulster could be difficult but they were winning pulling up with 10 minutes to go so maybe a bit more in them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 07, 2022, 09:16:35 PM
Good luck to all teams this weekend, and also our refs.

My prediction:

Dunloy by 2

Cargin by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 08, 2022, 12:38:23 AM
Congratulations and fair play to Pearses. A team that has been steadily improving for a number of years now and they have got their reward.

Keep it going lads; don't settle for here!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2022, 11:56:07 AM
Great read on Whitey in the I N today....had a long chat with the big man who I am delighted to call a friend at Rossa Park a few weeks past.
He brought us close on the Ulster way only denied by big Tohill's fingertips.

Must admit the read brought a lump to my throat as he rembered those who have left us far too soon, his Gerri, big Dessie Reynolds and Anto......Whitey has endured, but he still has a big smile on his face and indeed his was indeed 'a life well lived' thus far....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2022, 12:21:06 PM
Agree fully with all the above. Whitey will always have a special place in Antrim football folklore. Great character.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 08, 2022, 04:43:06 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/10/08/news/brian_white_on_long_kesh_antrim_rossa_and_life_s_winding_road-2854020/

For anyone who didn't get a chance to read this earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 08, 2022, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 08, 2022, 04:43:06 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/10/08/news/brian_white_on_long_kesh_antrim_rossa_and_life_s_winding_road-2854020/

For anyone who didn't get a chance to read this earlier.

Thanks for the link BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:52:41 AM
Some win for Dunloy, the Elliot's are damn good players who could grace any senior football team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 09, 2022, 02:32:30 PM
Big win for St Brigids at Toome today in the minor semi final. Conditions were very poor, Brigids the better and more composed team on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 09, 2022, 04:01:26 PM
Cargin in big trouble
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2022, 04:58:15 PM
Big finish at Corrigan in store!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner

Momentum is for a the notion of the dreamer....not a realist......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 09, 2022, 06:38:50 PM
Well done CB and other Cargin lads on here. We had one hand on the cup and just couldn't hold on long enough. A very proud aghagallon man though. What an effort those young lads put in. Totally gutted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner

Momentum is for a the notion of the dreamer....not a realist......

I'm not sure what you are talking about..

But the momentum was with Cargin and they won

The Donegal champions will, after that performance, be very worried, some fight back to dig out that result, who was the last team to score three goals against Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 09, 2022, 06:38:50 PM
Well done CB and other Cargin lads on here. We had one hand on the cup and just couldn't hold on long enough. A very proud aghagallon man though. What an effort those young lads put in. Totally gutted.

Onwards and upwards JS.....those brave lads deserve all the credit had a hand on history.
Just tell them Cargin have endured 11 senior final gut wrenching defeats....

There is another day and many other chances ahead....keep the hand on the tiller and steer straight ahead.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 09, 2022, 06:38:50 PM
Well done CB and other Cargin lads on here. We had one hand on the cup and just couldn't hold on long enough. A very proud aghagallon man though. What an effort those young lads put in. Totally gutted.
Be very proud of your team Jim, a great effort.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner

Momentum is for a the notion of the dreamer....not a realist......

I'm not sure what you are talking about..

But the momentum was with Cargin and they won

The Donegal champions will, after that performance, be very worried, some fight back to dig out that result, who was the last team to score three goals against Cargin?
We'll not worry about the Donegal champions tonight, 6 titles in 8 years for this group of players. Has to be applauded no matter what your allegiance. Seen a clip of a very dubious decision a penalty not given in the 1st half. Referee very very poor today I thought all in all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner

Momentum is for a the notion of the dreamer....not a realist......

I'm not sure what you are talking about..

But the momentum was with Cargin and they won

The Donegal champions will, after that performance, be very worried, some fight back to dig out that result, who was the last team to score three goals against Cargin?
We'll not worry about the Donegal champions tonight, 6 titles in 8 years for this group of players. Has to be applauded no matter what your allegiance. Seen a clip of a very dubious decision a penalty not given in the 1st half. Referee very very poor today I thought all in all.

Very difficult conditions on a dry day for a final never mind the wet one to referee. You've got to allow for lads going down easier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 09, 2022, 07:26:05 PM
Congratulations Cargin.  Sickener for Aghagallon but they have a bright future.  Brighter than Corrigan - shambles of a County, never seen a final played in darker conditions. Terrible for a showpiece occasion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 09, 2022, 07:26:05 PM
Congratulations Cargin.  Sickener for Aghagallon but they have a bright future.  Brighter than Corrigan - shambles of a County, never seen a final played in darker conditions. Terrible for a showpiece occasion.

You'd need to blame the weather not Corrigan.. Christ that's the best I've heard yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on October 09, 2022, 07:30:24 PM
What an effort from Aghagallon today ,they turned up this year for sure and when the pain of losing settles they can look back and be very proud of that performance today unreal to a man.

Number 11 championship for the Greens today and it was sweet they way we dug in from 8 down ,that takes real character and that's what our team has lots of.We will enjoy a few drinks tonight in our new club house and look forward to Ulster when the hangover goes.

I'm sure the Aghagallon men will have opinions on the ref but 3 massive calls we didn't get as the ref bottled it as they where clear as day fouls 1/ drag down before half time in box I think on Bradley 2/ Kelly got shoulder in the back at full time and ref blew to end game 3/Tomas fouled/pulled down in extra time.We did enough to win but on another day them calls change the game.Not good enough for any ref to get them calls wrong in a champion final.

Anyway I need to go and get some Diesel in the tractor here!!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:33:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner

Momentum is for a the notion of the dreamer....not a realist......

I'm not sure what you are talking about..

But the momentum was with Cargin and they won

The Donegal champions will, after that performance, be very worried, some fight back to dig out that result, who was the last team to score three goals against Cargin?
We'll not worry about the Donegal champions tonight, 6 titles in 8 years for this group of players. Has to be applauded no matter what your allegiance. Seen a clip of a very dubious decision a penalty not given in the 1st half. Referee very very poor today I thought all in all.

Very difficult conditions on a dry day for a final never mind the wet one to referee. You've got to allow for lads going down easier
Two stonewall penalties for cargin denied, 14th min and last min of extra time, but I'm not going to complain too much.
For me I have to admit Aghagallon impressed so much today, other teams maybe make a final and don't go for it. Eunan Walsh, Ruari McCann, Loughran all hopefully weigh in for Antrim. Sean O Neill Jamie Gribbin and Pat Shivers for us there's 6 a good start for a fresh team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 09, 2022, 07:36:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 07:28:33 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 09, 2022, 07:26:05 PM
Congratulations Cargin.  Sickener for Aghagallon but they have a bright future.  Brighter than Corrigan - shambles of a County, never seen a final played in darker conditions. Terrible for a showpiece occasion.

You'd need to blame the weather not Corrigan.. Christ that's the best I've heard yet
Not blaming Corrigan at all.  Their clubmen have put long hours in no doubt.  But fact is our county final was played in terrible light because we've no floodlights, which is a consequence of the shambles that has been made of Casement Park.  But anyway, that's all been trawled over many a time. It's Cargins day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 09, 2022, 07:53:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:33:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2022, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 09, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2022, 04:12:14 PM
All the momentum now, can only see one winner

Momentum is for a the notion of the dreamer....not a realist......

I'm not sure what you are talking about..

But the momentum was with Cargin and they won

The Donegal champions will, after that performance, be very worried, some fight back to dig out that result, who was the last team to score three goals against Cargin?
We'll not worry about the Donegal champions tonight, 6 titles in 8 years for this group of players. Has to be applauded no matter what your allegiance. Seen a clip of a very dubious decision a penalty not given in the 1st half. Referee very very poor today I thought all in all.

Very difficult conditions on a dry day for a final never mind the wet one to referee. You've got to allow for lads going down easier
Two stonewall penalties for cargin denied, 14th min and last min of extra time, but I'm not going to complain too much.
For me I have to admit Aghagallon impressed so much today, other teams maybe make a final and don't go for it. Eunan Walsh, Ruari McCann, Loughran all hopefully weigh in for Antrim. Sean O Neill Jamie Gribbin and Pat Shivers for us there's 6 a good start for a fresh team.

Ruairi getting dropped mystifies me. Not in the top 25 players in Antrim!! Adam wasn't getting his place and pulled the pin early and decided to go to America. Eunan is a big antrim man so he'll hang around alright. Jamie Lamont is a fantastic player who is definitely county standard too.

The worst thing about all this is we have a relegation playoff on Friday night here ffs. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 09, 2022, 08:33:29 PM
A fitting finale to the most open championship in memory, the odds on three draws during normal time in both semis plus the final itself would be close to 1000/1.

Aghagallon deserve a lot of respect for the performance they put up today and will no doubt be thereabouts for the foreseeable future.

For all the drama the Mc Namee heads back to it's familiar resting spot in Toome, for half a dozen other clubs it's a case of what extra do they need to find to get over that line!

Congratulations to Cargin...they keep finding a way...and good luck in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 09, 2022, 08:42:49 PM
Cargin looked dead and buried at times today. However, like these great teams they found a way and never looked panicked. Congrats to them. Aghagallon can take plenty from defeat. They have some good young players and always carry a goal threat. They should be back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 09, 2022, 10:19:52 PM
It was almost as if we hit the front too early once we got the goal at start of 2nd half. Cargin just chipped away and when the game went to Extra time they managed it well, they still have a great blend of young lads playing with the old campaigners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2022, 09:20:49 AM
Well done to Pearses, good club doing a load of decent work. Dunloy were superb against Glenravel, they've super forwards. Glenravel will be disappointed though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2022, 10:23:15 AM
Does that mean Dunloy automatically go forward to senior championship next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Went to yesterdays game, by god it was wet. Cargin deserved their win, Aghagallon can be proud of their effort, they had a great chance and hadn't the overall quality to win it. In truth their keeper cost them big time. Luke Mulholland some miss for them. Cargin showed great resolve and overall were a better team. The ref was crap, period. He denied Cargin two stone wall penalties, any ref who does that in final deserves criticism. For my part I will have to visit the in laws some time so gonna get it out of the way this week. Dunloy handed out a four pt stuffing. Their senior hurling forwards bringing senior pace to intermediate level football. Magees very poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 10:39:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2022, 10:23:15 AM
Does that mean Dunloy automatically go forward to senior championship next year?

Yes, they want to be playing senior at both, well that's what I got from hearing their manager speaking..

As said above, senior pace from the senior lads was evident from the start, I didn't think they would have kept that pace through to the end but they did.

Based over their previous outings against Ballymena and Sarsfields, Glenravel didn't show any of that form, and will feel they left that one behind.

Big shout out to the MOM in my opinion the keeper, some saves that really kept Glenravel in that game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
Keeper definitely MOM, I heard he is from Crossmaglen. If Glenravel had of went zonal on Dunloys KO they would have done better as Dunloys keeper didn't look like he was up much for shorts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
Keeper definitely MOM, I heard he is from Crossmaglen. If Glenravel had of went zonal on Dunloys KO they would have done better as Dunloys keeper didn't look like he was up much for shorts.

In fairness Dunloy won a lot of kick outs and played the ball straight away to runners.

The start is what won it also they came out of the blocks flying

As for yesterdays final, it was strange that Cargin looked so open for the goals, as they never give that much space, but once they started to build momentum in the second half and win more scrappy ball then there was only going to be one winner..

They needed the goal though and who better than Mick to come up with that score. For the conditions to be as bad as it was they served up a great game, I had a soaking at juvenile game that morning so was not going for a second at Corrigan , seemed to be space in that seated stand that wasn't being used..

St Mary's won't be going away, 2 finals in a row and huge improvement from a young enough team could well set them up again for next year and if they get another kind draw could be back again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 10, 2022, 11:04:51 AM
It was a strangely enthralling game yesterday between Aghagallon and Cargin.  At times both supporters were watching through their fingers a game played in challenging conditions but with blood and thunder from both sides as every single ball was contested with ferocity.   Football can be a strange game and i agree that aghagallon's huge lead seemed to become a millstone as Cargin chipped away at the lead and the pressure grew and grew.  As we all know, when the pressure is on is when mistakes are most likely made and the heroes step up and raise their game.   

Credit to both teams. Cargin for not folding from the massive set backs, and Aghagallon for their fearless attitude and resetting themselves to get the equalising point.   Aghagallon have a full forward line that would be a handful for anyone, once they are able to add more variety and scores from the other lines, then they will hard to stop.    It has been an intriguing Antrim championship this year, not much between the teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on October 10, 2022, 11:26:23 AM
Who was the referee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 10, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Went to yesterdays game, by god it was wet. Cargin deserved their win, Aghagallon can be proud of their effort, they had a great chance and hadn't the overall quality to win it. In truth their keeper cost them big time. Luke Mulholland some miss for them. Cargin showed great resolve and overall were a better team. The ref was crap, period. He denied Cargin two stone wall penalties, any ref who does that in final deserves criticism. For my part I will have to visit the in laws some time so gonna get it out of the way this week. Dunloy handed out a four pt stuffing. Their senior hurling forwards bringing senior pace to intermediate level football. Magees very poor.

Would agree with all of that.

I would add though that i thought Aghagallon should have had a penalty for Ruairi McCann being pulled to the ground.

Even as the ball was worked away he was still being held onto the ground by Crozier.

Clear as day, well as clear as you could see in that weather!

Not even 2 minutes later Tomas went down under far less of a challenge and got his free on the 45.

Once Cargin got the momentum after the 2nd half goal Aghagallon couldn't break it with a point.

The kick outs sunk them as they just couldn't get the ball out and Cargin chipped away at the points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2022, 03:20:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 10, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Went to yesterdays game, by god it was wet. Cargin deserved their win, Aghagallon can be proud of their effort, they had a great chance and hadn't the overall quality to win it. In truth their keeper cost them big time. Luke Mulholland some miss for them. Cargin showed great resolve and overall were a better team. The ref was crap, period. He denied Cargin two stone wall penalties, any ref who does that in final deserves criticism. For my part I will have to visit the in laws some time so gonna get it out of the way this week. Dunloy handed out a four pt stuffing. Their senior hurling forwards bringing senior pace to intermediate level football. Magees very poor.

Would agree with all of that.

I would add though that i thought Aghagallon should have had a penalty for Ruairi McCann being pulled to the ground.

Even as the ball was worked away he was still being held onto the ground by Crozier.

Clear as day, well as clear as you could see in that weather!

Not even 2 minutes later Tomas went down under far less of a challenge and got his free on the 45.

Once Cargin got the momentum after the 2nd half goal Aghagallon couldn't break it with a point.

The kick outs sunk them as they just couldn't get the ball out and Cargin chipped away at the points.

Watched that game again third time but failed to see Aghagallons pe shout ....better reception on Whitehill.

But having been the 're yesterday can only say mutual respect between the teams and respective support base was more than evident.

Only took a nod to agree on clash of jersey beforehand and not a stubborn stance employed on other such occassions..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on October 10, 2022, 05:21:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but  did them 2 clubs not play each other for at least 60 years without a clash of jerseys been mentioned until last year?  Seem to recall watching them both play in home jerseys over the years.

And did cargin not only get black tops in last few seasons to remember the magpie club first founded in the area?

As I say I could be wrong and you would have more knowledge than most on this I'm sure. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 10, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Aghagallon haven't long to lick their wounds, relegation play off on Friday night v All Saints. Surely a foregone conclusion but of course you never know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on October 10, 2022, 05:38:20 PM
Surely should have fitted in somewhere before championship came to an end or even started. Hard for both teams. Tough week for Aghagallon and how long since All saints have had a competitive game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2022, 05:50:56 PM
If you were asked to choose one man for player of the championship?

James Laverty would be my choice, by a fair bit. He was superb in three games I saw him.

Cargins year picked up very noticeably when James and Mick came back. Anyone want to suggest who was runner up..lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on October 10, 2022, 05:59:35 PM
Gerard MC Cann put in some big performances
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 10, 2022, 06:05:54 PM
Ruairi McCann
Eunan Walsh
John McNabb
James Laverty
Kevin O Boyle
Other Ruari McCann Creggan though quiet semi but strong group performances
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2022, 06:37:24 PM
One man one vote didn't last long lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 10, 2022, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 10, 2022, 06:37:24 PM
One man one vote didn't last long lol.

Eunan Walsh for us overall I'd say. Big Ruairi was injured for most of the league but was good in the championship. Young players like Ciaran Maginnis is only 18 and has played like a season senior football. He was excellent yesterday as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 10, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Aghagallon haven't long to lick their wounds, relegation play off on Friday night v All Saints. Surely a foregone conclusion but of course you never know.

Does anyone know if aghagallon as senior championship finalists get seeded again along with the 3 other 3 semi finalists? If they lose to ballymena I thought they will be relegated to div 2 and drop out of senior championship but unsure if that still stands given they have done enough to be seeded in senior championship next year 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 10, 2022, 07:33:50 PM
Ruairi McCann player of championship for me, was unmarkable and must have ended with 6/7 goals. A stallion of a man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 10, 2022, 07:40:08 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 10, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Aghagallon haven't long to lick their wounds, relegation play off on Friday night v All Saints. Surely a foregone conclusion but of course you never know.

Does anyone know if aghagallon as senior championship finalists get seeded again along with the 3 other 3 semi finalists? If they lose to ballymena I thought they will be relegated to div 2 and drop out of senior championship but unsure if that still stands given they have done enough to be seeded in senior championship next year
Afaik, the top 4 in the league are seeded for championship.
Aghagallon would have option of playing SFC or ask to be re graded to IFC  if they lost play off with Ballymena for 2023.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 10, 2022, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 10, 2022, 07:40:08 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 10, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Aghagallon haven't long to lick their wounds, relegation play off on Friday night v All Saints. Surely a foregone conclusion but of course you never know.

Does anyone know if aghagallon as senior championship finalists get seeded again along with the 3 other 3 semi finalists? If they lose to ballymena I thought they will be relegated to div 2 and drop out of senior championship but unsure if that still stands given they have done enough to be seeded in senior championship next year

Afaik, the top 4 in the league are seeded for championship.
Aghagallon would have option of playing SFC or ask to be re graded to IFC  if they lost play off with Ballymena for 2023.

It has been semi finalists in the championship for a number of years. Wasn't aware of a change.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 10, 2022, 10:37:50 PM
Football's a pain in the hole 🤦🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 11, 2022, 07:48:50 AM
Quote from: delgany on October 10, 2022, 07:40:08 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 10, 2022, 07:30:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Aghagallon haven't long to lick their wounds, relegation play off on Friday night v All Saints. Surely a foregone conclusion but of course you never know.

Does anyone know if aghagallon as senior championship finalists get seeded again along with the 3 other 3 semi finalists? If they lose to ballymena I thought they will be relegated to div 2 and drop out of senior championship but unsure if that still stands given they have done enough to be seeded in senior championship next year
Afaik, the top 4 in the league are seeded for championship.
Aghagallon would have option of playing SFC or ask to be re graded to IFC  if they lost play off with Ballymena for 2023.

no chance of getting rid of the farcical groups and back to straight knock out then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 11, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Get rid of the group stages, they are not working. League kick off in mid April, finish at end of August. Then straight into a knockout championship with the 4 teams seeded (Seed 1 and 4 on one side of draw, 2 and 3 on the other side). Plus no relegation playoffs, bottom 2 go down and top 2 go up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 11, 2022, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2022, 03:20:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 10, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Went to yesterdays game, by god it was wet. Cargin deserved their win, Aghagallon can be proud of their effort, they had a great chance and hadn't the overall quality to win it. In truth their keeper cost them big time. Luke Mulholland some miss for them. Cargin showed great resolve and overall were a better team. The ref was crap, period. He denied Cargin two stone wall penalties, any ref who does that in final deserves criticism. For my part I will have to visit the in laws some time so gonna get it out of the way this week. Dunloy handed out a four pt stuffing. Their senior hurling forwards bringing senior pace to intermediate level football. Magees very poor.

Would agree with all of that.

I would add though that i thought Aghagallon should have had a penalty for Ruairi McCann being pulled to the ground.

Even as the ball was worked away he was still being held onto the ground by Crozier.

Clear as day, well as clear as you could see in that weather!

Not even 2 minutes later Tomas went down under far less of a challenge and got his free on the 45.

Once Cargin got the momentum after the 2nd half goal Aghagallon couldn't break it with a point.

The kick outs sunk them as they just couldn't get the ball out and Cargin chipped away at the points.

Watched that game again third time but failed to see Aghagallons pe shout ....better reception on Whitehill.

But having been the 're yesterday can only say mutual respect between the teams and respective support base was more than evident.

Only took a nod to agree on clash of jersey beforehand and not a stubborn stance employed on other such occassions..

I was there so reception in Whitehill wouldn't have mattered.

As a neutral I know what i saw, not only was the man fouled but the foul continued as Cargin broke out with the ball.

In any case, it'll hardly matter now, Aghagallon will hardly be looking back on that as the reason why they lost
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 08:42:03 AM
When the games is that frenetic its hard to regain or get composure and that is the main reason why St Mary's lost out on Sunday, having been there and done it in the past Cargin could draw on the leaders of the team to get a foothold in the game and then go on and win it.

There was a lot of 50/50 calls both teams would have felt didn't go their way and that's going to happen, also a lot of that down to the conditions too in fairness, but the best team over the whole period of the game won out. Plenty of time to dust themselves down and get back to Corrigan and face the Donegal champions

Hopefully the weather is kinder and brighter for some!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2022, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 11, 2022, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2022, 03:20:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 10, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Went to yesterdays game, by god it was wet. Cargin deserved their win, Aghagallon can be proud of their effort, they had a great chance and hadn't the overall quality to win it. In truth their keeper cost them big time. Luke Mulholland some miss for them. Cargin showed great resolve and overall were a better team. The ref was crap, period. He denied Cargin two stone wall penalties, any ref who does that in final deserves criticism. For my part I will have to visit the in laws some time so gonna get it out of the way this week. Dunloy handed out a four pt stuffing. Their senior hurling forwards bringing senior pace to intermediate level football. Magees very poor.

Would agree with all of that.

I would add though that i thought Aghagallon should have had a penalty for Ruairi McCann being pulled to the ground.

Even as the ball was worked away he was still being held onto the ground by Crozier.

Clear as day, well as clear as you could see in that weather!

Not even 2 minutes later Tomas went down under far less of a challenge and got his free on the 45.

Once Cargin got the momentum after the 2nd half goal Aghagallon couldn't break it with a point.

The kick outs sunk them as they just couldn't get the ball out and Cargin chipped away at the points.

Watched that game again third time but failed to see Aghagallons pe shout ....better reception on Whitehill.

But having been the 're yesterday can only say mutual respect between the teams and respective support base was more than evident.

Only took a nod to agree on clash of jersey beforehand and not a stubborn stance employed on other such occassions..

I was there so reception in Whitehill wouldn't have mattered.

As a neutral I know what i saw, not only was the man fouled but the foul continued as Cargin broke out with the ball.

In any case, it'll hardly matter now, Aghagallon will hardly be looking back on that as the reason why they lost

You were that eagle eyed you missed the Cargin stone wallers on Sean O'Neill in 1st half and Tomas McCann in extra time.  The event you speak of wasn't even a discussion point for Aghagallon supporters at the game but was for you - the 'neutral'.   People see what they want or hope to see obviously.      The ref was in and out, tough conditions, lots of spilled balls, let some stuff go and some not. 

Aghagallon need to regroup this week and get focused on this playoff.  Important to not to let the highs and lows of Sunday's events derail their progress which a sojourn in Div 2 could possibly do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 11, 2022, 10:52:58 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 11, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Get rid of the group stages, they are not working. League kick off in mid April, finish at end of August. Then straight into a knockout championship with the 4 teams seeded (Seed 1 and 4 on one side of draw, 2 and 3 on the other side). Plus no relegation playoffs, bottom 2 go down and top 2 go up.

That means you will not have a county player playing in the league, which translates to you having your county player play one game in the season for you if your beat in the first round to playing four games for you if win the title. ?????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 11, 2022, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2022, 09:54:27 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 11, 2022, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2022, 03:20:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 10, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 10, 2022, 10:27:53 AM
Went to yesterdays game, by god it was wet. Cargin deserved their win, Aghagallon can be proud of their effort, they had a great chance and hadn't the overall quality to win it. In truth their keeper cost them big time. Luke Mulholland some miss for them. Cargin showed great resolve and overall were a better team. The ref was crap, period. He denied Cargin two stone wall penalties, any ref who does that in final deserves criticism. For my part I will have to visit the in laws some time so gonna get it out of the way this week. Dunloy handed out a four pt stuffing. Their senior hurling forwards bringing senior pace to intermediate level football. Magees very poor.

Would agree with all of that.

I would add though that i thought Aghagallon should have had a penalty for Ruairi McCann being pulled to the ground.

Even as the ball was worked away he was still being held onto the ground by Crozier.

Clear as day, well as clear as you could see in that weather!

Not even 2 minutes later Tomas went down under far less of a challenge and got his free on the 45.

Once Cargin got the momentum after the 2nd half goal Aghagallon couldn't break it with a point.

The kick outs sunk them as they just couldn't get the ball out and Cargin chipped away at the points.

Watched that game again third time but failed to see Aghagallons pe shout ....better reception on Whitehill.

But having been the 're yesterday can only say mutual respect between the teams and respective support base was more than evident.

Only took a nod to agree on clash of jersey beforehand and not a stubborn stance employed on other such occassions..

I was there so reception in Whitehill wouldn't have mattered.

As a neutral I know what i saw, not only was the man fouled but the foul continued as Cargin broke out with the ball.

In any case, it'll hardly matter now, Aghagallon will hardly be looking back on that as the reason why they lost

You were that eagle eyed you missed the Cargin stone wallers on Sean O'Neill in 1st half and Tomas McCann in extra time.  The event you speak of wasn't even a discussion point for Aghagallon supporters at the game but was for you - the 'neutral'.   People see what they want or hope to see obviously.      The ref was in and out, tough conditions, lots of spilled balls, let some stuff go and some not. 

Aghagallon need to regroup this week and get focused on this playoff.  Important to not to let the highs and lows of Sunday's events derail their progress which a sojourn in Div 2 could possibly do.

Where did i say i missed the cargin ones?

Maybe you are seeing what you want to see by putting words into my mouth.

It certainly was a discussion point in the section of the terrace i was in, so maybe we just agree to disagree.

I had no horse in the race and was just there to watch a good game, so i call it as i see it.

Would have been less neutral last year but this year it didn't bother me either way who won it, but Cargin deserved their win for the second half performance.

Experience was key and they never panicked despite the deficit.

Great game for everyone to watch despite the conditions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2022, 12:17:22 PM
conditions were tough and credit due to st johns who had the pitch in good order.  Couldn't do anything about the weather, terraces gave a good vantage point.  Seen a few souls across on the grass embankment which must have been slippy as well.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 11, 2022, 12:56:28 PM
I thought the crowd was about the half the attendance of last year though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 11, 2022, 01:31:26 PM
Crowd was way smaller this year only a handful of people on the grass bank compared to last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 11, 2022, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 11, 2022, 12:56:28 PM
I thought the crowd was about the half the attendance of last year though.
People wrongly thought it was a foregone conclusion this year, wouldn't of been many neutrals there, I didn't notice many anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on October 11, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 11, 2022, 10:52:58 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 11, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Get rid of the group stages, they are not working. League kick off in mid April, finish at end of August. Then straight into a knockout championship with the 4 teams seeded (Seed 1 and 4 on one side of draw, 2 and 3 on the other side). Plus no relegation playoffs, bottom 2 go down and top 2 go up.

That means you will not have a county player playing in the league, which translates to you having your county player play one game in the season for you if your beat in the first round to playing four games for you if win the title. ?????

if the issue is the 1 game you're out then try implement a back door. teams then guaranteed 2 games which mean something. the groups end up with dead rubbers. Go knockout with a backdoor and there's no dead rubbers and teams still get 2 gos at it, better trying that than the groups.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 11, 2022, 02:32:59 PM
Could someone explain to me on the reasons we are seeing soo many ruck type scenarios taking place around breaks, where at times 6 men can be in the middle of it.

Notcied it alot on saturday and sunday, and during the semi final games. Seems to be a thing in Antrim Football that refs are letting develop. On dry conditions its good to watch as a contest but with the handling and soft ground Sunday there was serious fouls taking place in the rucks which the ref seemed to turn a blind eye to.

Also dont see much of these situations in Tyrone, Derry, Down or Donegal club football where iv been watching seinor championship games. Is it unique to Antrim due to having soo many dual Refs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 11, 2022, 03:02:25 PM
A lot of rucks, with the ref standing by watching it unfold, then somehow calling it one way or the other. Once it gets into the ruck as such should it not be blown and hopped?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 11, 2022, 03:16:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 11, 2022, 03:02:25 PM
A lot of rucks, with the ref standing by watching it unfold, then somehow calling it one way or the other. Once it gets into the ruck as such should it not be blown and hopped?
Yes. On Sunday the ref stood dumbstruck time and again while the players bunched and dipped over the ball which was like a bar of soap.  Very unfair on the players, lucky no one got injured.  Then he just randomly blew for one team or the other. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 11, 2022, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 11, 2022, 02:32:59 PM
Could someone explain to me on the reasons we are seeing soo many ruck type scenarios taking place around breaks, where at times 6 men can be in the middle of it.

Notcied it alot on saturday and sunday, and during the semi final games. Seems to be a thing in Antrim Football that refs are letting develop. On dry conditions its good to watch as a contest but with the handling and soft ground Sunday there was serious fouls taking place in the rucks which the ref seemed to turn a blind eye to.

Also dont see much of these situations in Tyrone, Derry, Down or Donegal club football where iv been watching seinor championship games. Is it unique to Antrim due to having soo many dual Refs?

Definitely. At times the rucks in the semi finals were ridiculous.

Thankfully it only happened a few times on Sunday.

I understand the ref giving it a few seconds to see if someone emerges with the ball but some were going on maybe 15-20 seconds with 6-8 men all in.

It is just a recipe for someone coming in to clear the ruck and all hell breaking loose.

Inviting red card incidents is not something anyone wants to see, especially in a semi final or final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 03:44:59 PM
The rucks in this occasion were brought about by the ball not being caught and landing on at peoples feet, the conditions insured that there was going to be a lot of handling errors and there was all over the pitch.. Throwing in the ball at every ruck would have created more rucks as the players will not move back the 13 meters they should.

The ref on many occasions is waiting to see a foul during those, normally they happen and a free is given, he can't give a foul if he doesn't see it so will allow it to continue..

A lot of handling the ball on the deck during those so its what he see's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 11, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
You were very lenient on the old ball off the ground on Saturday MR2 especially for a young Glenravel sub
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 11, 2022, 03:48:35 PM
You were very lenient on the old ball off the ground on Saturday MR2 especially for a young Glenravel sub

Yeah, to be honest, the first one I didn't see as a Dunloy player just crossed my path as he 'dipped' the ball the other one I gave him the benefit of the doubt as it was rolling into his hands, I did then ask him to stick his toe under the next one lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 12, 2022, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 03:44:59 PM
The rucks in this occasion were brought about by the ball not being caught and landing on at peoples feet, the conditions insured that there was going to be a lot of handling errors and there was all over the pitch.. Throwing in the ball at every ruck would have created more rucks as the players will not move back the 13 meters they should.

The ref on many occasions is waiting to see a foul during those, normally they happen and a free is given, he can't give a foul if he doesn't see it so will allow it to continue..

A lot of handling the ball on the deck during those so its what he see's

Was this a conscious dictation by the committee MR2?   just asking as, like other posters earlier, there appeared to be a lot of these long 'rucks' that occurred in this years championship matches.  I'm not saying it is right or wrong just to know where we all stand going forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 12, 2022, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 03:44:59 PM
The rucks in this occasion were brought about by the ball not being caught and landing on at peoples feet, the conditions insured that there was going to be a lot of handling errors and there was all over the pitch.. Throwing in the ball at every ruck would have created more rucks as the players will not move back the 13 meters they should.

The ref on many occasions is waiting to see a foul during those, normally they happen and a free is given, he can't give a foul if he doesn't see it so will allow it to continue..

A lot of handling the ball on the deck during those so its what he see's

Was this a conscious dictation by the committee MR2?   just asking as, like other posters earlier, there appeared to be a lot of these long 'rucks' that occurred in this years championship matches.  I'm not saying it is right or wrong just to know where we all stand going forward

I wouldn't imagine so and its been happening up and down the country and not just in football, hurling is wild for it also and the primary reason is players are told that they need possession, that causes the rucks, years gone by lads would have just hoofed that ball or lashed on it in hurling, not the case anymore..

Personally I'll wait till I see a free of sorts, be it a pulled shirt push in the back or touching the ball on the ground, if there is just the 'mauling' type thing with no actual foul what can you blow for? so unfortunately it goes on a bit longer, not pretty but that is down to the coaching, they aint coaching the rucks by the way, they are coaching winning primary possession
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 12, 2022, 02:04:13 PM
Funny old season, cant see any managerial changes for top half clubs or Aghagallon next season. Either their club did well or didn't do as well as expected but clubs will think they aren't far away namely Kickhams and Portglenone. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
So according to Kieran Mc Gourty, they (Cargin) are one of the greatest county champions.
Now who am I to disagree with the former St Gall's magician....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 12, 2022, 05:55:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
So according to Kieran Mc Gourty, they (Cargin) are one of the greatest county champions.
Now who am I to disagree with the former St Gall's magician....

They are without doubt one of the greatest teams in antrim history. Is it 6 titles in 8 years? Obviously the St Galls team from the 00s is the greatest ever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 12, 2022, 05:55:36 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 12, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
So according to Kieran Mc Gourty, they (Cargin) are one of the greatest county champions.
Now who am I to disagree with the former St Gall's magician....

They are without doubt one of the greatest teams in antrim history. Is it 6 titles in 8 years? Obviously the St Galls team from the 00s is the greatest ever.

Obviously  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2022, 09:28:47 PM
Cargin & St Galls combo over the last 15 years.

1. Paddy Murray

2. Kevin O'Boyle
3. Andy McLean
4. Colin Brady

5. Tony Scullion
6. Sean Kelly
7. Justin Crozier

8. Sean Burke
9. Mick McCann

10. Kevin McGourty
11. Kieran McGourty
12. Tomàs McCann

13. CJ McGourty
14. Kieran Close
15. Sean Burns.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2022, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2022, 09:28:47 PM
Cargin & St Galls combo over the last 15 years.

1. Paddy Murray

2. Kevin O'Boyle
3. Andy McLean
4. Colin Brady

5. Tony Scullion
6. Sean Kelly
7. Justin Crozier

8. Sean Burke
9. Mick McCann

10. Kevin McGourty
11. Kieran McGourty
12. Tomàs McCann

13. CJ McGourty
14. Kieran Close
15. Sean Burns.

Can't see many arguments there
Only 2 cargin forwards so maybe some discussion
Maybe they're too young yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2022, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 12, 2022, 09:46:13 PM
I have an argument or 2. Niblock makes the team.
Seanie Burns & Paddy Murray in a team of the last 15 years?

My bad, overlooked Niblock.

Ok. Edit to 20 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2022, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 12, 2022, 10:05:25 PM
Sean Burke's inclusion over Aidso Gallagher is questionable also.

Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 12, 2022, 10:36:08 PM
Niblock definitely in, would have Gallagher as well.

Both clubs have produced some class forwards but Shivers will be take someones spot on there with another 3/4 seasons under his belt. Outrageous talent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 12, 2022, 10:37:55 PM
Plus one Geezer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 12, 2022, 10:44:46 PM
Niblock first name on forward list for me. Also James Laverty worthy of inclusion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 12, 2022, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 12, 2022, 10:37:55 PM
Plus one Geezer.


McEntee be rubbing his hands together watching some of the scores he was swinging over on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 13, 2022, 05:32:54 AM
Terry o'Neill a cert too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 13, 2022, 07:51:49 AM
Pat Shivers and big Ruari McCann together, some handful for any defence in division 3!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 08:34:55 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2022, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2022, 09:28:47 PM
Cargin & St Galls combo over the last 15 years.

1. Paddy Murray

2. Kevin O'Boyle
3. Andy McLean
4. Colin Brady

5. Tony Scullion
6. Sean Kelly
7. Justin Crozier

8. Sean Burke
9. Mick McCann

10. Kevin McGourty
11. Kieran McGourty
12. Tomàs McCann

13. CJ McGourty
14. Kieran Close
15. Sean Burns.

Can't see many arguments there
Only 2 cargin forwards so maybe some discussion
Maybe they're too young yet

Close very good but not sure I would have him in there so possibly two might be too many!

Shivers on current trajectory could end up better than any of them mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 08:43:01 AM
I read in the IN the county board rejected a request from aghagallon to push back the promotion/relegation play off scheduled for tomorrow. So much for player welfare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 08:43:01 AM
I read in the IN the county board rejected a request from aghagallon to push back the promotion/relegation play off scheduled for tomorrow. So much for player welfare.

Jesus, the game was Sunday, during the year the games can be played Sunday Wed and probably a training session thrown in also, this fixture has been know for a while and both teams know that this was a great chance to either go up or stay up..

The play off is to help St Mary's to stay up, if it had not have been in place they would have been relegated already. Ballymena have been waiting and training to get a shot at Div 1 any other year they would have been up as a top 2 team

Looking forward to the game, be interesting to see how a team gets itself back off the floor and put in a performance again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 13, 2022, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 08:43:01 AM
I read in the IN the county board rejected a request from aghagallon to push back the promotion/relegation play off scheduled for tomorrow. So much for player welfare.

Jesus, the game was Sunday, during the year the games can be played Sunday Wed and probably a training session thrown in also, this fixture has been know for a while and both teams know that this was a great chance to either go up or stay up..

The play off is to help St Mary's to stay up, if it had not have been in place they would have been relegated already. Ballymena have been waiting and training to get a shot at Div 1 any other year they would have been up as a top 2 team

Looking forward to the game, be interesting to see how a team gets itself back off the floor and put in a performance again
Was surprised myself to see the County in such a rush to play this game off on a Friday night. Aghagallon threw the sink physically and mentally at Sunday.  What difference would a week have made.  Another example of fixture committee not thinking through the wider context.  Have seen several examples on here from the Cargin men in recent weeks. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 13, 2022, 09:31:10 AM
must also be a strange situation for ballymena.  kicking their heels for weeks now and the season felt like it was over.    interesting to see if they have been putting in productive training or just going through the motions.  Sunday will tell us whether they are a genuine Div 1 team or not.    Can Moneyglass and Ballymena survive in Div 1 at the moment?     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Imo Kieran Close easily best no 13 in Antrim football for last 20 years. Class act, great left foot, unselfish (total team player) kept himself match fit throughout two decades. Simply has to be on that list.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 13, 2022, 09:45:57 AM
Agree their BS, not sure about Sean Burns either and I would have both Gerard McCann and Aodhan Gallagher in before Burke with Gallagher getting the nod.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 13, 2022, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 08:43:01 AM
I read in the IN the county board rejected a request from aghagallon to push back the promotion/relegation play off scheduled for tomorrow. So much for player welfare.

Jesus, the game was Sunday, during the year the games can be played Sunday Wed and probably a training session thrown in also, this fixture has been know for a while and both teams know that this was a great chance to either go up or stay up..

The play off is to help St Mary's to stay up, if it had not have been in place they would have been relegated already. Ballymena have been waiting and training to get a shot at Div 1 any other year they would have been up as a top 2 team

Looking forward to the game, be interesting to see how a team gets itself back off the floor and put in a performance again
Was surprised myself to see the County in such a rush to play this game off on a Friday night. Aghagallon threw the sink physically and mentally at Sunday.  What difference would a week have made.  Another example of fixture committee not thinking through the wider context.  Have seen several examples on here from the Cargin men in recent weeks.

Ones on complaining that Ballymena were waiting 6 weeks... When would be the best time for St Mary's to play the game, maybe JS is better placed to ask that question? I'm sure they couldn't be arsed at all if truth be told.

The game couldn't be played till after the teams were out of their championships so hopefully Ballymena will be ready
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 13, 2022, 10:07:44 AM
All day and night EOC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Tomas and Mick are certs on anyone's team of the last 20 years, Kevin O'Bpyle a gent of a lad and a very good footballer, so he gets my vote also, the others that would be in or fighting for positions would be Close, Scullion, Justin and big Gerard..

Its not a 15 man game anymore, we have seen that this last 20 years and the team is only as good as its panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 13, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
James Laverty, Paul Veronica and Anto Healy were always dependable championship performers. Justy and Sean Kelly pick themselves.  Micky Johnston, Big Gerard and Eddie Quinn superb. Pollock has always been a dangerman. Niblock and Aidso have to be in there somewhere, Closey too. Karl Stewart always a thorn and the go to man when things needed sorted up front.   Honourable mentions to Terry O'Neill, Chris Kerr, Simon Kennedy, Mark McCrory, Jinny McNabb, Shane Devlin, Paul McCann and Gerard O'Boyle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 13, 2022, 12:46:58 PM
Don't see Agallon issue. 2 games in 5 days.

No mention of sympathy to dual clubs throughout the course of the year, 2 games possibly every 3 days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on October 13, 2022, 12:51:46 PM
Would player welfare mean a 3 day bender in Belfast and being unfit to play LOL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 13, 2022, 12:51:46 PM
Would player welfare mean a 3 day bender in Belfast and being unfit to play LOL

That goes for ref's too!! My patience's was tested on the line last week  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on October 13, 2022, 01:36:23 PM
Think most of the Aghagallon boys just want to get the playoff game out of the way and hopefully get any sort of win.. season has dragged on long enough.. league started far too early compared to other counties. 21 games in 7 months? Too many long periods without football or 3 games in 9 days, always one of the two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 13, 2022, 01:38:05 PM
The game should have been played before the championship started. Aghagallon sure to be fatigued after sunday and Ballymena have been twiddling their thumbs for the past 6 weeks. No good for either team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 13, 2022, 01:39:01 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 13, 2022, 01:38:05 PM
The game should have been played before the championship started. Aghagallon sure to be fatigued after sunday and Ballymena have been twiddling their thumbs for the past 6 weeks. No good for either team.

It doesn't give Ballymena any chance to succeed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 13, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
James Laverty, Paul Veronica and Anto Healy were always dependable championship performers. Justy and Sean Kelly pick themselves.  Micky Johnston, Big Gerard and Eddie Quinn superb. Pollock has always been a dangerman. Niblock and Aidso have to be in there somewhere, Closey too. Karl Stewart always a thorn and the go to man when things needed sorted up front.   Honourable mentions to Terry O'Neill, Chris Kerr, Simon Kennedy, Mark McCrory, Jinny McNabb, Shane Devlin, Paul McCann and Gerard O'Boyle.

Think a 20 year old Kevin Doyle would have made any team......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 13, 2022, 06:31:07 PM
Unfair on both teams to be fair but I just want to get it out of the road now so I'm sure the players are the same. They can get on with their off season and enjoy a bit of well earned rest. Hopefully we have picked ourselves up and get over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 13, 2022, 06:33:38 PM
Jerome streaming it as well, we've gone stream crazy £££
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 13, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 13, 2022, 06:33:38 PM
Jerome streaming it as well, we've gone stream crazy £££

It's great though. We are getting to see games from other counties as well that you'd have never got to see. The cost soon adds up though all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 13, 2022, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 13, 2022, 06:33:38 PM
Jerome streaming it as well, we've gone stream crazy £££

It's great though. We are getting to see games from other counties as well that you'd have never got to see. The cost soon adds up though all the same.

It's a lot cheaper than heading to the game, fuel, food, parking hassle weather... way that up to sitting on the sofa lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 13, 2022, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 13, 2022, 06:33:38 PM
Jerome streaming it as well, we've gone stream crazy £££

Jerome on commentary is a good reason to give it a miss
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 13, 2022, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 13, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
James Laverty, Paul Veronica and Anto Healy were always dependable championship performers. Justy and Sean Kelly pick themselves.  Micky Johnston, Big Gerard and Eddie Quinn superb. Pollock has always been a dangerman. Niblock and Aidso have to be in there somewhere, Closey too. Karl Stewart always a thorn and the go to man when things needed sorted up front.   Honourable mentions to Terry O'Neill, Chris Kerr, Simon Kennedy, Mark McCrory, Jinny McNabb, Shane Devlin, Paul McCann and Gerard O'Boyle.

I'd have Karl Stewart in that team ahead of Close.
Close longetivity marks him out but on their day Karl got the nod. Ball winner, hit frees, Galls best scoring forward of the lot imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 13, 2022, 10:05:03 PM
They're fighting the good fight 'as such'
They read here too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

Was hoping they would be about for yeaaaarrrsss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

Was hoping they would be about for yeaaaarrrsss.

Tramping in toes........not allowed....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 13, 2022, 10:27:54 PM
McCavana has an ego the size of a house
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 13, 2022, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: stiffler on October 13, 2022, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

Was hoping they would be about for yeaaaarrrsss.

must bring them down the soldierstown road some night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 13, 2022, 11:52:21 PM
Who do Cargin play in Ulster? and when?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 14, 2022, 06:34:39 AM
Quote from: ck on October 13, 2022, 11:52:21 PM
Who do Cargin play in Ulster? and when?

Letterkenny or Glenties
12th/13th November

Winners play derry or tyrone champs in semis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2022, 08:03:05 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Have no idea, but always believed we were part of a great amateur democratic organisation........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on October 14, 2022, 08:16:54 AM
Who is in Andy McEntees back room team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 08:36:08 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

seems to be more tweets and comments on posts etc that the problem was with from what i hear, the show was sound anytime i heard it, just a bit of banter.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 08:38:09 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on October 14, 2022, 08:16:54 AM
Who is in Andy McEntees back room team?

John McCloskey, Terry McCrudden, Brian Magee, Tom (from Meath) dont know second name, some chat lately that Mick McCann involved but not sure thats correct
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Highland Paddy on October 14, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
I see Dunloy win the intermediate champo in the big ball. Is that them up to senior next year then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 14, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

100% MR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2022, 09:46:02 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 14, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

100% MR

Did see those digs hinting at admission charges but found such 'cartoon' like posts as harmless in the extreme.
But in all seriousness if a family, dad, mum and A couple of 17 year old siblings forked out £40 entrance and coming from Toome or Aghalee.....plus fuel.....out a lot.

Officials and reporters stroll in.

Now all those poor souls that endured the trip to Hightown forced with a fair hike up a steep incline and slithering down again soaked to the skin having paid for the privilege.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 14, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

100% MR
The podcast after the two football semis they did call out the referees for their poor performances. Social media will tell you these were widely held opinions. Too strongly in their language used yes, but don't see why they cant call the poor performances out all the same. Happens on Match of the Day every weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 14, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
The lads from Saffron Voice are just calling out concerns that many within the County have...as such.

Fixture scheduling is a major issue IMO. I undertsand that we are probably the only county in Ulster with 3 leagues in both codes with alot of the clubs being dual. Fixtures will be tricky to organise in Antrim but there is no way leagues shouldnt be finished before championship starts. The u-20 grade is a complete farce and should be scrapped immediately.

Regarding the issue of pricing. there is no reason for not having double headers, particularly at the 1/4 and semi stage. Punters want value for money and many more neutrals would attend double headers. Dunsilly is great but if it can have double headers then use 1 of the many venues that have in the past.

Lastly, Hightown should never be used again for a championship match at any level. Its a terrible place to watch a match. McCavana needs to stop pushing it to host matches, it simply isnt fit for purpose. What happened to Glenavy/Ahoghill/Creggan which were used regularly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:31:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 14, 2022, 09:46:02 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 14, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

100% MR

Did see those digs hinting at admission charges but found such 'cartoon' like posts as harmless in the extreme.
But in all seriousness if a family, dad, mum and A couple of 17 year old siblings forked out £40 entrance and coming from Toome or Aghalee.....plus fuel.....out a lot.

Officials and reporters stroll in.

Now all those poor souls that endured the trip to Hightown forced with a fair hike up a steep incline and slithering down again soaked to the skin having paid for the privilege.

I'm not sure what the prices for entry into games in other counties but it would be similar in price, if you get it streamed to the house it will be a hell of a lot cheaper again and warmer.

You can't put a price on watching your club team win a county championship though.. I pay into my own club games at Milltown so paying to watch your club should be standard surely? As for walking up hills in the rain, if you ain't fit for it stay in, its not Holland, the hint is in the name, Hightown!

One mans banter is another mans criticism I suppose, never listened to a podcast until I listened to theirs, was decent enough and well spread across the grades, no hurling but sure can't be perfect
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 14, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

100% MR
The podcast after the two football semis they did call out the referees for their poor performances. Social media will tell you these were widely held opinions. Too strongly in their language used yes, but don't see why they cant call the poor performances out all the same. Happens on Match of the Day every weekend

Just because it happens on social media and match of the day every weekend doesn't make it ok to have a pop.. the Match of the day show is referee's who get very well paid to do a job, Joe down the street is doing it because the club haven't a referee and they need one to get home fixtures!!

By calling out ref's on social media is that your tactic to encourage these 'better' ref's to get on board? Great logic, had you down as a thinker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 14, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
The boys have played a blinder, only one game left under Antrims jurisdiction ie: tonight's playoff which for all we know they can't attend due to other commitments, so not a massive sacrifice they have made but by putting that statement out it makes them look like men of the people standing up for what's right against the big bad county board hastily backed up by like and comments on the socials. Their popularity soars and followers increase. Marketing genius.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: geezer on October 14, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
The lads from Saffron Voice are just calling out concerns that many within the County have...as such.

Fixture scheduling is a major issue IMO. I undertsand that we are probably the only county in Ulster with 3 leagues in both codes with alot of the clubs being dual. Fixtures will be tricky to organise in Antrim but there is no way leagues shouldnt be finished before championship starts. The u-20 grade is a complete farce and should be scrapped immediately.

Regarding the issue of pricing. there is no reason for not having double headers, particularly at the 1/4 and semi stage. Punters want value for money and many more neutrals would attend double headers. Dunsilly is great but if it can have double headers then use 1 of the many venues that have in the past.

Lastly, Hightown should never be used again for a championship match at any level. Its a terrible place to watch a match. McCavana needs to stop pushing it to host matches, it simply isnt fit for purpose. What happened to Glenavy/Ahoghill/Creggan which were used regularly?

Fixture scheduling you've answered it yourself already, its not designed to fit one club or code, its to tie in with everything that goes on in GAA games in Antrim and beyond.. Schools, colleges, ladies, camogie, hurling and football your local divisional games, add in the county on top of that. That then leaves you a master fixture list to arrange all the competitions and have enough officials to look after the games, seems easy doesn't it!!

Pricing is fine, it seems standard across the other counties, in some cases cheaper, double headers, I'll give you that, Casement was perfect for it, though I really can't remember to many other double headers that involved senior games, a mixture of minor or junior possibly, I'm all for that btw

They have a voce we all have a voice, the clubs are your outlet to give your county delegate the platform to get things done, people can voice opinions here or elsewhere but unless you put yourself forward then how can you actually achieve anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 10:51:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 14, 2022, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

100% MR
The podcast after the two football semis they did call out the referees for their poor performances. Social media will tell you these were widely held opinions. Too strongly in their language used yes, but don't see why they cant call the poor performances out all the same. Happens on Match of the Day every weekend

Just because it happens on social media and match of the day every weekend doesn't make it ok to have a pop.. the Match of the day show is referee's who get very well paid to do a job, Joe down the street is doing it because the club haven't a referee and they need one to get home fixtures!!

By calling out ref's on social media is that your tactic to encourage these 'better' ref's to get on board? Great logic, had you down as a thinker
Not my job to attract referees and I don't think the Joe down the street type referees are the guys doing championship semi finals and finals MR2, these guys take refereeing seriously and profess to be good at it. Joe down the street is the guy doing the u11 games once in a while to tick a box for the club. Completely different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 10:52:55 AM
The lack of double headers is very poor though MR. If it's due to Dunsilly then games shouldn't be there. If it's due to money then well...

I don't think they can win on the relegation thing though but maybe sunday would have been a bit mroe time but how much time can you expect ballymena to wait too. Tbh I hope it makes them rethink that structure or gets them to play those games straight away rather than wait.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:58:36 AM
Its not your job but you want to have better refereeing?!! You'll not get it by attacking them on social media

Profess to be good? Like walk around telling people they are good? WTF

Joe down the street will still want to improve, anyone doing any sort of 'job' will always want to become better at it, but if he's being pummeled for it be some keyboard warriors then what's the point?

The topic is about lads talking about football and taking a stand, they feel hard done by but they have probably crossed a line, like another press guy who felt it was perfectly fine to call the referee a useless cnut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on October 14, 2022, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 10:09:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
It seems 'Saffron Voice' is outa business.....

You've got to pick your battles, if you are giving the county constant stick on social media don't expect a pat on the back.

You should know when you throw abuse at officials there has to be repercussions
What abuse did they throw?

Claiming the county are looking at supporters as piggy banks and not caring for player welfare ain't going to help with things..

Banter is grand once you start trying to be a 'voice' of the supporters then you are lost, they aint the voice just two lads in a bedroom talking shite, that's in their own words btw, I liked their podcast, though giving unpaid volunteers some stick about their performance won't win hearts and minds.

Trial by social media (and not their case as they don't hide behind keyboards) isn't great, you wouldn't want your son to take abuse online but happy to give to others  (not your personally of course)

There are more formal ways to express your opinion through the club committee if you are a member that is, or seeing as it is simple enough to fix get on board

Does that mean it's fair game to give paid officials some stick     :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 11:04:27 AM
We'll disagree on this but I have no issue with people calling out poor refereeing without abusing them. (this is not necessary) To anyone being rightly called out - Be better and try and improve or step away.
You said the lads were throwing abuse and cited them giving unpaid volunteers stick about their performance. I assumed you meant referees.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 14, 2022, 11:04:27 AM
We'll disagree on this but I have no issue with people calling out poor refereeing without abusing them. (this is not necessary) To anyone being rightly called out - Be better and try and improve or step away.
You said the lads were throwing abuse and cited them giving unpaid volunteers stick about their performance. I assumed you meant referees.

I just put on what they have said in their statement and what they said about certain referee's in their podcast, if you are happy to 'call out' referee's and ask them to step away we won't have referee's!! There is not a line of people waiting to become a ref

I really find it difficult that you can't see any link to not having referee's and calling them out though, but sure, carry on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 14, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
MR2, like i said, the fixtures in Antrim would be a nightmare to sort given the duality of alot of clubs. I just merely said that the playoffs should have been completed before the start of championship.

In terms of double headers, i was talking about a junior game before intermediate or an intermediate before senior. Would attract larger crowds and im sure most would see it as value for money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on October 14, 2022, 11:56:59 AM
MR2 jumping on everyones back who dares to criticise anything in Antrim GAA.

Is that snowflake mentality or is it the type of authoritarian tactic cops and traffic wardens use when challenged?

Think you would make a great traffic warden. Requires a massive chip on the shoulder though ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 14, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
MR2, like i said, the fixtures in Antrim would be a nightmare to sort given the duality of alot of clubs. I just merely said that the playoffs should have been completed before the start of championship.

In terms of double headers, i was talking about a junior game before intermediate or an intermediate before senior. Would attract larger crowds and im sure most would see it as value for money.

Yeah for me those are two things that really could be done better. Leaving Ballymena hanging so long and Aghagallon now playing after extra time so soon is probably not the best way to do it tbh.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on October 14, 2022, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 14, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
MR2, like i said, the fixtures in Antrim would be a nightmare to sort given the duality of alot of clubs. I just merely said that the playoffs should have been completed before the start of championship.

In terms of double headers, i was talking about a junior game before intermediate or an intermediate before senior. Would attract larger crowds and im sure most would see it as value for money.

Yeah for me those are two things that really could be done better. Leaving Ballymena hanging so long and Aghagallon now playing after extra time so soon is probably not the best way to do it tbh.

The root cause of the problem is putting another fixture into an already packed schedule.  Relegation playoffs are unnecessary - straight up, straight down works fine.  If every club knows the rules, there can't / shouldn't be any complaints when the axe falls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 01:14:24 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on October 14, 2022, 11:56:59 AM
MR2 jumping on everyones back who dares to criticise anything in Antrim GAA.

Is that snowflake mentality or is it the type of authoritarian tactic cops and traffic wardens use when challenged?

Think you would make a great traffic warden. Requires a massive chip on the shoulder though ....

No jumping I've already pointed out that I've had my views on things that may not be what others think but its an opinion like others, thanks for the work advice though ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 01:20:38 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 14, 2022, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 14, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
MR2, like i said, the fixtures in Antrim would be a nightmare to sort given the duality of alot of clubs. I just merely said that the playoffs should have been completed before the start of championship.

In terms of double headers, i was talking about a junior game before intermediate or an intermediate before senior. Would attract larger crowds and im sure most would see it as value for money.

Yeah for me those are two things that really could be done better. Leaving Ballymena hanging so long and Aghagallon now playing after extra time so soon is probably not the best way to do it tbh.

The root cause of the problem is putting another fixture into an already packed schedule.  Relegation playoffs are unnecessary - straight up, straight down works fine.  If every club knows the rules, there can't / shouldn't be any complaints when the axe falls.

I'm all for double headers btw

The reality is we've never had it so good in relation to having access to our club games.. when social media is put to good use it gives people instant reports, we've had live streaming of all the games across the board, junior through to senior, we even had club league games being streamed but still not enough!

I'm sure there will be tweaking and whatever over the years but there will always be someone not happy, this thread is a very small snap shot of peoples views though, and I'm sure ones do come in and have a snoop!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 03:01:06 PM
IF Sundays game had of finished in a draw after extra time Aghagallon would be playing in the replay tomorrow afternoon, not much difference so really no grounds to complain about playing tonight at 7.30pm.
Fixtures involving minor and u20 have been extremely poor. U20 hurling semi finals scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, some Dunloy and Cushendall players starting or on bench for seniors on Sunday have had to withdraw from their u20 panels, not sure if either will field now, crazy situation for a championship semi final. The fact that both clubs appealed to ccc to rearrange the fixture but it fell on deaf ears speaks volumes for the disconnect and to be honest disregard some CB members have for our clubs and players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 03:07:23 PM
Tbh it's worse they're leaving ballymena so long than making aghagallon play so close to the final.

read about the under 20s. A mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 14, 2022, 03:10:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 03:07:23 PM
Tbh it's worse they're leaving ballymena so long than making aghagallon play so close to the final.

read about the under 20s. A mess.

Amen.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 14, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 03:01:06 PM
IF Sundays game had of finished in a draw after extra time Aghagallon would be playing in the replay tomorrow afternoon, not much difference so really no grounds to complain about playing tonight at 7.30pm.
Fixtures involving minor and u20 have been extremely poor. U20 hurling semi finals scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, some Dunloy and Cushendall players starting or on bench for seniors on Sunday have had to withdraw from their u20 panels, not sure if either will field now, crazy situation for a championship semi final. The fact that both clubs appealed to ccc to rearrange the fixture but it fell on deaf ears speaks volumes for the disconnect and to be honest disregard some CB members have for our clubs and players.
If Sunday's game had finished level, Aghagallon would be playing Cargin in a replay tomorrow, not Ballymena - so both clubs would have been in the same boat.  Not ideal for either club.  The question is why do the fixtures committee seem to have no peripheral vision?  Another week and no one would have said a word. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 14, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 03:01:06 PM
IF Sundays game had of finished in a draw after extra time Aghagallon would be playing in the replay tomorrow afternoon, not much difference so really no grounds to complain about playing tonight at 7.30pm.
Fixtures involving minor and u20 have been extremely poor. U20 hurling semi finals scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, some Dunloy and Cushendall players starting or on bench for seniors on Sunday have had to withdraw from their u20 panels, not sure if either will field now, crazy situation for a championship semi final. The fact that both clubs appealed to ccc to rearrange the fixture but it fell on deaf ears speaks volumes for the disconnect and to be honest disregard some CB members have for our clubs and players.
If Sunday's game had finished level, Aghagallon would be playing Cargin in a replay tomorrow, not Ballymena - so both clubs would have been in the same boat.  Not ideal for either club.  The question is why do the fixtures committee seem to have no peripheral vision?  Another week and no one would have said a word. 

Ballymena would have a word to say i think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2022, 07:20:42 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 14, 2022, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 14, 2022, 03:01:06 PM
IF Sundays game had of finished in a draw after extra time Aghagallon would be playing in the replay tomorrow afternoon, not much difference so really no grounds to complain about playing tonight at 7.30pm.
Fixtures involving minor and u20 have been extremely poor. U20 hurling semi finals scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, some Dunloy and Cushendall players starting or on bench for seniors on Sunday have had to withdraw from their u20 panels, not sure if either will field now, crazy situation for a championship semi final. The fact that both clubs appealed to ccc to rearrange the fixture but it fell on deaf ears speaks volumes for the disconnect and to be honest disregard some CB members have for our clubs and players.
If Sunday's game had finished level, Aghagallon would be playing Cargin in a replay tomorrow, not Ballymena - so both clubs would have been in the same boat.  Not ideal for either club.  The question is why do the fixtures committee seem to have no peripheral vision?  Another week and no one would have said a word. 

When did Aghagallon request a postponement? Just this week, after Sundays final? But they knew all along the gap between the final and their play off, why not ask for the postponement prior to last Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2022, 08:18:35 PM
4-1 Aghagallon at HT. jeepers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 08:35:03 PM
Shocking stuff here. Ballymena don't deserve promotion if that's the style of football they play. They've good players on their team and they're being made to play like that! Woeful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2022, 08:46:52 PM
Looks like Aghagallon didn't have much to worry about in the end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 09:35:19 PM
If Baker is getting paid clubmen in Ballymeana must be asking serious questions tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 14, 2022, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 09:35:19 PM
If Baker is getting paid clubmen in Ballymeana must be asking serious questions tonight

What you mean if ?
You think he's coming over for the craic and the view of slemish ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
Not sure if he has some ties to the club or whatever. With players they have should really being doing better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2022, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 14, 2022, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 09:35:19 PM
If Baker is getting paid clubmen in Ballymeana must be asking serious questions tonight

What you mean if ?
You think he's coming over for the craic and the view of slemish ?

Good chippys in Ballymena and also a ice cream parlour. Maybe that's bringing him over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 14, 2022, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2022, 08:46:52 PM
Looks like Aghagallon didn't have much to worry about in the end

Was close and cagey for first half but in truth it looked all ballymena were trying to do was be so so defensive to avoid getting humiliated. Once the penny drops that they were 4/5 down and never going to win as soon as they come out their shell they got a man sent off and got a proper pasting after that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 14, 2022, 10:07:48 PM
Ballymena very disappointing tactics, 15 men behind the ball. Surely they have the players to try a more adventurous game plan.

Fair play to aghagallon, not easy turning out so soon after losing a championship final in extra time. Great character on display.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 10:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
Not sure if he has some ties to the club or whatever. With players they have should really being doing better

I actually feel sorry for those Ballymena players being made to play in that system. They've a few flyers and a few dangerous forwards but they serve up that crap. Baker shouting and roaring and giving out abuse doesn't help either. Dark ages stuff.

Glad we got that over and done with. We should never have been in that position in the first place. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 14, 2022, 10:18:40 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
Not sure if he has some ties to the club or whatever. With players they have should really being doing better

Nah he's an outsider
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 14, 2022, 10:25:33 PM
Shambles of an attempt by Ballymena to get promoted.  Tactics were so negative. They need to go back to the drawing board.  Jim McGuinness stuff is a decade out of date.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 14, 2022, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 10:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 14, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
Not sure if he has some ties to the club or whatever. With players they have should really being doing better

I actually feel sorry for those Ballymena players being made to play in that system. They've a few flyers and a few dangerous forwards but they serve up that crap. Baker shouting and roaring and giving out abuse doesn't help either. Dark ages stuff.

Glad we got that over and done with. We should never have been in that position in the first place.

Even when ballymena were goi no further behind they persisted with everyone behind ball and letting agahagallon pass it around the back with no pressure — poor poor showing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on October 14, 2022, 10:49:09 PM
Ballymena out of ideas once down by 3.. wasted opportunity for them. Aghagallon grinded them down and first step of getting Sundays result out of the system. Wonder was scoreboard not on to save Ballymenas blushes 🙈
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on October 14, 2022, 10:49:48 PM
Also ciaran magennis should be up for an Antrim all star
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on October 14, 2022, 10:49:48 PM
Also ciaran magennis should be up for an Antrim all star

Fantastic player who just keeps getting better and better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 14, 2022, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on October 14, 2022, 10:49:09 PM
Ballymena out of ideas once down by 3.. wasted opportunity for them. Aghagallon grinded them down and first step of getting Sundays result out of the system. Wonder was scoreboard not on to save Ballymenas blushes 🙈

Saves electricity keeping the board off- you know there is a cost of living crisis wolf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 10:56:20 PM
Apparently the Saffron Voice lads were seen in the crowd!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2022, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 10:56:20 PM
Apparently the Saffron Voice lads were seen in the crowd!

🤐🤐
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2022, 11:45:45 PM
On the first half showing there was was enough evidence to show that Ballymena has enough talent to be a division one team...but their second half performance firmly put that notion to bed. When Aghagallon finally threw off the shackles they demonstrated the gap that exists between intermediate and senior football.

That's another football year done and dusted.... except for those that are going into the provincial competitions. Time for the rest to take stock and see what they can do to find a bit extra for 2023.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 14, 2022, 11:48:53 PM
There are minor titles at three grades up for decision this Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 14, 2022, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 14, 2022, 11:45:45 PM
On the first half showing there was was enough evidence to show that Ballymena has enough talent to be a division one team...but their second half performance firmly put that notion to bed. When Aghagallon finally threw off the shackles they demonstrated the gap that exists between intermediate and senior football.

That's another football year done and dusted.... except for those that are going into the provincial competitions. Time for the rest to take stock and see what they can do to find a bit extra for 2023.

Their first half they scored 2 points and had 15 played behind the ball at all times. Conceding the kick outs! I don't blame the players though. That's the manager! I do think Ballymena have plenty of talent and barring one or 2 they've got a good age profile. They'll not do much with those tactics though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 14, 2022, 11:58:26 PM
I stand corrected Brendan....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2022, 07:33:20 AM
Aghagallon have put in serious work at underage level this last decade and are going to be a top 4 club for the foreseeable future. At one stage towards the end of the match they had 5 players aged under 19 on the pitch!

Ballymena not ready to go up, Baker will get another year for sure but I'd say a div 2 league or intermediate cship are essential for him next year now that he knows his way around the club. Anything less than that will be underachieving with the panel that's there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
That was the worst experience I've had as an official on the pitch last night, ever!!

5 minutes in the abuse from the line and over the line was unreal!

Think next year I might wear a phone holder and record the game just to highlight what 'ordinary' people say during the game, both on the pitch and behind the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Highland Paddy on October 15, 2022, 08:22:36 AM
Recording the level of abuse would be some eye opener
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 15, 2022, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
That was the worst experience I've had as an official on the pitch last night, ever!!

5 minutes in the abuse from the line and over the line was unreal!

Think next year I might wear a phone holder and record the game just to highlight what 'ordinary' people say during the game, both on the pitch and behind the line
That's ridiculous. Other counties are taking a stand. It's time the issue was made a priority in our county as well.  It should be an enjoyable job which is respected.  Otherwise we're in a vicious circle with no one wanting to do it.  Only a stubborn wee bollix like you would do it 🤣. You handled it well by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
That was the worst experience I've had as an official on the pitch last night, ever!!

5 minutes in the abuse from the line and over the line was unreal!

Think next year I might wear a phone holder and record the game just to highlight what 'ordinary' people say during the game, both on the pitch and behind the line

It doesn't help when their manager is leading the charge with the slabbering. Ballymena never used to have that element in their support so I was surprised to hear as much abuse being handed out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 15, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
That was the worst experience I've had as an official on the pitch last night, ever!!

5 minutes in the abuse from the line and over the line was unreal!

Think next year I might wear a phone holder and record the game just to highlight what 'ordinary' people say during the game, both on the pitch and behind the line

Terrible to hear. Was this from both teams or was it mainly related to the management indiscretions in the first half?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2022, 01:00:25 PM
I only just saw the score line. That's an awful hammering ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 15, 2022, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2022, 07:33:20 AM
Aghagallon have put in serious work at underage level this last decade and are going to be a top 4 club for the foreseeable future. At one stage towards the end of the match they had 5 players aged under 19 on the pitch!

Ballymena not ready to go up, Baker will get another year for sure but I'd say a div 2 league or intermediate cship are essential for him next year now that he knows his way around the club. Anything less than that will be underachieving with the panel that's there.
Who's the top 4 BS, Cargin, Creggan, Agahagallon and ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 15, 2022, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 15, 2022, 07:33:20 AM
Aghagallon have put in serious work at underage level this last decade and are going to be a top 4 club for the foreseeable future. At one stage towards the end of the match they had 5 players aged under 19 on the pitch!

Ballymena not ready to go up, Baker will get another year for sure but I'd say a div 2 league or intermediate cship are essential for him next year now that he knows his way around the club. Anything less than that will be underachieving with the panel that's there.
Who's the top 4 BS, Cargin, Creggan, Agahagallon and ?

I'd still have us as top 6. I think it's Cargin/Creggan and then the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 15, 2022, 03:13:40 PM
Why do you seem so interested in my opinion EOC?  Go ahead and fill in that missing spot yourself!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 15, 2022, 04:56:04 PM
So it's toome v Glenties next up in corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 15, 2022, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 08:08:19 AM
That was the worst experience I've had as an official on the pitch last night, ever!!

5 minutes in the abuse from the line and over the line was unreal!

Think next year I might wear a phone holder and record the game just to highlight what 'ordinary' people say during the game, both on the pitch and behind the line

Was wild abuse- even after baker was yellow carded him and few others kept at it- distracts from the team on field. More bizarre was the call to give a point was made by two umpires nothing to do with ref or linesman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 05:15:23 PM
Antrim v Armagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 15, 2022, 05:24:07 PM
Tough draw but in reality meaningless for Antrim, focus will be on league staying up and the tailteann cup.
The Munster and Leinster draws are so much easier than Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 15, 2022, 06:42:16 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 05:15:23 PM
Antrim v Armagh!

Who you supporting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 06:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 15, 2022, 06:42:16 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 05:15:23 PM
Antrim v Armagh!

Who you supporting

Who do you think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 15, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
https://twitter.com/HomefitLTD/status/1581209354417889280?t=CG8Ic_QBq3kL3pdrFsfwLA&s=19

Doesn't reflect well at all to the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 15, 2022, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 15, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
https://twitter.com/HomefitLTD/status/1581209354417889280?t=CG8Ic_QBq3kL3pdrFsfwLA&s=19

Doesn't reflect well at all to the county board

Jesus what a shitshow
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 15, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
https://twitter.com/HomefitLTD/status/1581209354417889280?t=CG8Ic_QBq3kL3pdrFsfwLA&s=19

Doesn't reflect well at all to the county board

What is that about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: RandyDupree on October 15, 2022, 09:55:26 PM
Antrim GAA doesn't belong to any individual. It's should be open to all, just like every other county. Who does the admin think he is to block fellow Gaels access to the social media accounts? Sort yourselves out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 15, 2022, 10:31:32 PM
Quote from: RandyDupree on October 15, 2022, 09:55:26 PM
Antrim GAA doesn't belong to any individual. It's should be open to all, just like every other county. Who does the admin think he is to block fellow Gaels access to the social media accounts? Sort yourselves out.

They'll block anybody who doesn't agree with them.

The Mafia lives on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 11:26:49 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 15, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
https://twitter.com/HomefitLTD/status/1581209354417889280?t=CG8Ic_QBq3kL3pdrFsfwLA&s=19

Doesn't reflect well at all to the county board

What is that about?

Homefit are a St Johns connection have they had problems with the county recently? Have the county not gave them advertising or what's behind it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 16, 2022, 08:49:12 AM
Making clubs proceed with the u20 hurling semis when they're senior clubs playing next day is madness. Yes the dates are in the calendar, but when the situation arises as it did the CB has got to be more flexible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 16, 2022, 08:53:29 AM
I see one of the Kelly's, who I think may be the Homefit owner cc'd saffronvoice in to their announcement  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2022, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 11:26:49 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 15, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
https://twitter.com/HomefitLTD/status/1581209354417889280?t=CG8Ic_QBq3kL3pdrFsfwLA&s=19

Doesn't reflect well at all to the county board

What is that about?

Homefit are a St Johns connection have they had problems with the county recently? Have the county not gave them advertising or what's behind it?

One administrator without mandate from clubs always ruled since inception........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 16, 2022, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 16, 2022, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 11:26:49 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 15, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 15, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
https://twitter.com/HomefitLTD/status/1581209354417889280?t=CG8Ic_QBq3kL3pdrFsfwLA&s=19

Doesn't reflect well at all to the county board

What is that about?

Homefit are a St Johns connection have they had problems with the county recently? Have the county not gave them advertising or what's behind it?

One administrator without mandate from clubs always ruled since inception........

I have heard there have been a few heaves against him in recent years but he is hard to shift, has his allies in Croke Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:29:00 AM
I thought saffron voice pulled the plug? Seemed to be very busy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:46:35 AM
I'm so glad that the Aghnagallon lads managed to play and not need medical attention after the playoff games seeing as player welfare was a big thing according to some. They looked brave and sharp on Friday night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 16, 2022, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:29:00 AM
I thought saffron voice pulled the plug? Seemed to be very busy
They will continue the podcasts but their twitter accounts were  blocked by  a higher authority. So they were effectively stopped from posting scores ! As this stopped income generation via the streaming services offered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 16, 2022, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:46:35 AM
I'm so glad that the Aghnagallon lads managed to play and not need medical attention after the playoff games seeing as player welfare was a big thing according to some. They looked brave and sharp on Friday night

What a childish, bizarre post
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 16, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
Free the Saffron Voice 2!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 16, 2022, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 16, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
Free the Saffron Voice 2!

Amen



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 16, 2022, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 16, 2022, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:29:00 AM
I thought saffron voice pulled the plug? Seemed to be very busy
They will continue the podcasts but their twitter accounts were  blocked by  a higher authority. So they were effectively stopped from posting scores ! As this stopped income generation via the streaming services offered
Stopped the Saffron Voice tweeting scores yet by the looks of it the current PRO not even at the All County Minor A final to give updates. Poor!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 16, 2022, 12:46:01 PM
Surely they can't be stopped tweeting scores ? What rules are you breaking by doing that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 12:46:30 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on October 16, 2022, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:46:35 AM
I'm so glad that the Aghnagallon lads managed to play and not need medical attention after the playoff games seeing as player welfare was a big thing according to some. They looked brave and sharp on Friday night

What a childish, bizarre post

I thought so, I mean imagine anyone thinking that these lads were going to be put in a bad position playing a game five days later
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on October 16, 2022, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2022, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 16, 2022, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:29:00 AM
I thought saffron voice pulled the plug? Seemed to be very busy
They will continue the podcasts but their twitter accounts were  blocked by  a higher authority. So they were effectively stopped from posting scores ! As this stopped income generation via the streaming services offered
Stopped the Saffron Voice tweeting scores yet by the looks of it the current PRO not even at the All County Minor A final to give updates. Poor!

Saffron Gael  is de facto county PRO machine. Doing fantastic work around the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2022, 04:31:55 PM
When's the saffron voice boycott of games starting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 16, 2022, 05:07:02 PM
Congratulations to BrendanAntrim and St Brigids minors for breaking the duck today. Brolly tweeted earlier about a 'minor curse' being broken but I think it was more a case of St Brigids having 15 playing as a team and no egos along the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 16, 2022, 05:26:45 PM
Thanks EOC, today was an immense battle with a strong Glenravel team. We knew it would be tough, as our second league game against the same opposition was. Very happy for this brilliant group of players to get the win. It was an epic final. A very happy group today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on October 16, 2022, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 11:46:35 AM
I'm so glad that the Aghnagallon lads managed to play and not need medical attention after the playoff games seeing as player welfare was a big thing according to some. They looked brave and sharp on Friday night

I'm so glad the Antrim Senior football championship gets to remain within the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 16, 2022, 10:22:54 PM
What is it with Belfast people and their inability to say or spell Aghagallon. Where the f**k is Aghnagallon? Sticking a random n in there for no reason  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 16, 2022, 10:22:54 PM
What is it with Belfast people and their inability to say or spell Aghagallon. Where the f**k is Aghnagallon? Sticking a random n in there for no reason  ;D

In this instance it's come up in my autospell thingy y and I haven't bothered changing it's not a slight on the Lurgan lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 01:34:17 PM
Saffron voice taking things a bit bitter now

•Stewarts get access into the game free.. You want the stewards to pay in as well as being a steward?

•Match officials get travel expenses a match fee tea sandwiches buns etc at HT and access to a shower after even though half of them walk during games..

Match officials 99% time get no sarnies or tea ya headers lol!! Access to a shower lol only if they have remembered to have the heating on, Walk during the games? Not sure what that means, but I'd cover at least 4 miles a game, some of the games we ref I'd like to see the miles the players put in, ball goes sideways for 90% of the match

•The County officals do the bear minimum have no communication or people skills 

The Officials  ::) are up for change each year and anyone that's a paid up member can apply for the post


•and get a big wage and talk to people like dirt

Get a big wage? what's this big wage they get? You've seen the price of fuel? the fuel expenses won't cover it so the match payment will .. as for the dirt talk its def one way traffic

•I've been to a billion games and 99% of supporters are decent people who never open their mouths so don't try playing victim here

You've been to a billion games my arse, as for your hearing you need to get the wax out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 17, 2022, 02:24:21 PM
With all due respect MR2 I am surprised you are picking fights on here in relation to certain matters, as a referee you will get your fair share of abuse and arguments (wrongly in my opinion), however should you not be trying to remain a bit more 'Switzerland', therefore, not leaving yourself open to calls of bias based on inflammatory comments on here

BTW not a personal attack on you more of an observation

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 01:34:17 PM
Saffron voice taking things a bit bitter now

•Stewarts get access into the game free.. You want the stewards to pay in as well as being a steward?

•Match officials get travel expenses a match fee tea sandwiches buns etc at HT and access to a shower after even though half of them walk during games..

Match officials 99% time get no sarnies or tea ya headers lol!! Access to a shower lol only if they have remembered to have the heating on, Walk during the games? Not sure what that means, but I'd cover at least 4 miles a game, some of the games we ref I'd like to see the miles the players put in, ball goes sideways for 90% of the match

•The County officals do the bear minimum have no communication or people skills 

The Officials  ::) are up for change each year and anyone that's a paid up member can apply for the post


•and get a big wage and talk to people like dirt

Get a big wage? what's this big wage they get? You've seen the price of fuel? the fuel expenses won't cover it so the match payment will .. as for the dirt talk its def one way traffic

•I've been to a billion games and 99% of supporters are decent people who never open their mouths so don't try playing victim here

You've been to a billion games my arse, as for your hearing you need to get the wax out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 17, 2022, 02:24:21 PM
With all due respect MR2 I am surprised you are picking fights on here in relation to certain matters, as a referee you will get your fair share of abuse and arguments (wrongly in my opinion), however should you not be trying to remain a bit more 'Switzerland', therefore, not leaving yourself open to calls of bias based on inflammatory comments on here

BTW not a personal attack on you more of an observation

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 01:34:17 PM
Saffron voice taking things a bit bitter now

•Stewarts get access into the game free.. You want the stewards to pay in as well as being a steward?

•Match officials get travel expenses a match fee tea sandwiches buns etc at HT and access to a shower after even though half of them walk during games..

Match officials 99% time get no sarnies or tea ya headers lol!! Access to a shower lol only if they have remembered to have the heating on, Walk during the games? Not sure what that means, but I'd cover at least 4 miles a game, some of the games we ref I'd like to see the miles the players put in, ball goes sideways for 90% of the match

•The County officals do the bear minimum have no communication or people skills 

The Officials  ::) are up for change each year and anyone that's a paid up member can apply for the post


•and get a big wage and talk to people like dirt

Get a big wage? what's this big wage they get? You've seen the price of fuel? the fuel expenses won't cover it so the match payment will .. as for the dirt talk its def one way traffic

•I've been to a billion games and 99% of supporters are decent people who never open their mouths so don't try playing victim here

You've been to a billion games my arse, as for your hearing you need to get the wax out

Look I'm not having a pop either at these guys but nothing wrong with a different point of view to these things

Slagging ref's for their fitness or how saying they get into games for free or saying stewards get in free WTF does that mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.

They posted Officials not official so I'll take that as more than one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 17, 2022, 04:18:11 PM
So how do we sort the referees situation out then?  They are critical and essential to our games. They are amateurs and part timers and do not deserve some of the abuse directed at them. None of them (well at least the vast vast majority) begin a match with a conscious bias against one team or the other.

And respect is a two way street.  We expect them to know the rules, be of a certain fitness level and act with complete impartiality.   The black card / yellow card situation is beyond a farce now and despite what some say, the referee has a huge bearing on how the match fares out by his (sometimes wavering) view of the tackle. Phantom strikes being reported by linesmen and umpires.

Whichever side of the argument you fall on, the referees need help, need constant training and need protection.   They should not have to deal with the abuse dished out to them in every single match whether that be an U7 Go Game or a Senior Championship final.

But what is the answer?  Wholesale red cards? captains only allowed to speak? enforced substitutions/black cards?      whatever it is needs a sensible debate as it feels like we cant go on like this

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.

They posted Officials not official so I'll take that as more than one?
I have zero to do with the county establishment so I wouldn't know anything about this. I just know there is at least one well paid in there, every county in Ireland has one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 17, 2022, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.

They posted Officials not official so I'll take that as more than one?
I have zero to do with the county establishment so I wouldn't know anything about this. I just know there is at least one well paid in there, every county in Ireland has one.

Indeed was appointed amidst some controversy....has not even a vote on county matters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.

They posted Officials not official so I'll take that as more than one?
I have zero to do with the county establishment so I wouldn't know anything about this. I just know there is at least one well paid in there, every county in Ireland has one.

Have zero knowledge but happy enough to post about it? Ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.

They posted Officials not official so I'll take that as more than one?
I have zero to do with the county establishment so I wouldn't know anything about this. I just know there is at least one well paid in there, every county in Ireland has one.

Have zero knowledge but happy enough to post about it? Ok
Who mentioned knowledge?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 07:14:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Who's on a big wage within the County board? Not too hard to work out who they are referring.

They posted Officials not official so I'll take that as more than one?
I have zero to do with the county establishment so I wouldn't know anything about this. I just know there is at least one well paid in there, every county in Ireland has one.

Have zero knowledge but happy enough to post about it? Ok
Who mentioned knowledge?

You said wouldn't KNOW Anything about this. But comment anyways
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:16:58 PM
Pardon me, you don't seem to have much knowledge yourself. Anyone reading this thread would think you are a big noise around Antrim but what are you really?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:16:58 PM
Pardon me, you don't seem to have much knowledge yourself. Anyone reading this thread would think you are a big noise around Antrim but what are you really?

Eh? A big noise? This is a daft thread on Antrim football nothing else, random message about GAA in the county ... no one cares my posts or yours have no significance at all.

If you take the ramblings on here as anything other than that then more fool you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
More fool you mate, SV appear to have dug out the county board in a couple of insta posts and you have got yourself in a tizzy about it, not me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
More fool you mate, SV appear to have dug out the county board in a couple of insta posts and you have got yourself in a tizzy about it, not me

👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 17, 2022, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 17, 2022, 07:16:58 PM
Pardon me, you don't seem to have much knowledge yourself. Anyone reading this thread would think you are a big noise around Antrim but what are you really?

Eh? A big noise? This is a daft thread on Antrim football nothing else, random message about GAA in the county ... no one cares my posts or yours have no significance at all.

If you take the ramblings on here as anything other than that then more fool you

Relax yourself, Big Noise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on October 17, 2022, 09:43:22 PM
Hard hitting stuff on the saffron voice tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 17, 2022, 09:44:12 PM
Big Noise gets a few mentions and I'm only 10mins in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 17, 2022, 09:44:12 PM
Big Noise gets a few mentions and I'm only 10mins in!

;D I thought they'd quit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 17, 2022, 10:48:26 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on October 17, 2022, 09:43:22 PM
Hard hitting stuff on the saffron voice tonight

I agree with that crap of having to have tickets on QE Code - saw a fella at the relegation playoff couldn't get the phone working tried to pay at gate and they said no - what is wrong with paying at the gate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 18, 2022, 08:57:13 AM
always liked a listen to SV through the season, but last night was very over the top and very personal attacks, not needed. Lads can make their points without sinking to that level of spitefulness. Wasn't a good look for a couple of lads who had been doing great work promoting our games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 18, 2022, 09:29:19 AM
Yeah it was verging on over the top last night. Lots of good points but was maybe too personal at times too, but they are definitely calling out a lot of the bullshit that is going on! The county PRO should have been teaming up with the lads and giving them some sort of role as they were doing his job for him but that ship has sailed now! Hope this doesn't end up going south as they are doing great work and providing very good publicity for all clubs. Blocking them on social media platforms is stupid as well ffs. As usual Antrim is a circus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb on October 18, 2022, 12:11:33 PM
Listened to it....never heard a bigger load of waffle, sound like school cubs. What clubs are they associated with?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 12:55:49 PM
Using the deaths in Donegal to have a go at the county!!! Like honesty wise up.. no shame
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 01:20:13 PM
Predictable you would use that to bite back MR2. What about the allegation of you calling someone bad names 😱
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 01:24:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 01:20:13 PM
Predictable you would use that to bite back MR2. What about the allegation of you calling someone bad names 😱

So you are not going to deal with that?

I've never called anyone called anyone a fat cnut so that is me dealing with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 01:36:32 PM
Why would I deal with it? You may go and talk to the lads themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 01:40:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 01:36:32 PM
Why would I deal with it? You may go and talk to the lads themselves

I dealt with what you said about me and now I'm asking you to give me your views on that comment?

If you don't want to that's ok, wouldn't surprise me though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Jeez missed that name calling episode....need to have a look.. asap
Back to twitter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Jeez missed that name calling episode....need to have a look.. asap
Back to twitter

Missed using the Donegal deaths to have a go at the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 18, 2022, 01:57:18 PM
With all due respect some could say you are using those deaths to deflect from the rest of the genuine concerns raised

As for the name calling if you say it didn't happen that is good enough for me

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Jeez missed that name calling episode....need to have a look.. asap
Back to twitter

Missed using the Donegal deaths to have a go at the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 18, 2022, 01:57:18 PM
With all due respect some could say you are using those deaths to deflect from the rest of the genuine concerns raised

As for the name calling if you say it didn't happen that is good enough for me

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Jeez missed that name calling episode....need to have a look.. asap
Back to twitter

Missed using the Donegal deaths to have a go at the county board

Look there are many concerns people have all over the country with how they feel their county boards should runs things, this isnt a Antrim only thing, but that comment is not something to be used to get at the county board or whoever their gripe is with.

The genuine concerns of the Antrim GAA folk falls into insignificance to what happen there, and why (not you ) people would not pull them for it says something..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 18, 2022, 01:57:18 PM
With all due respect some could say you are using those deaths to deflect from the rest of the genuine concerns raised

As for the name calling if you say it didn't happen that is good enough for me

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 18, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Jeez missed that name calling episode....need to have a look.. asap
Back to twitter

Missed using the Donegal deaths to have a go at the county board
What he said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 18, 2022, 04:28:05 PM
I haven't listened to the podcast, no inclination to, but their twitter commentary at the moment is bizarre. Refs should just accept abuse or resign from the role??

There was a much more balanced discussion on abuse of refs on Talkback today  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 18, 2022, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 18, 2022, 04:28:05 PM
I haven't listened to the podcast, no inclination to, but their twitter commentary at the moment is bizarre. Refs should just accept abuse or resign from the role??

There was a much more balanced discussion on abuse of refs on Talkback today  ;)

Id put as much faith in Talkback and Radio Ulster as I would a chocolate fireguard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 18, 2022, 04:48:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 18, 2022, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 18, 2022, 04:28:05 PM
I haven't listened to the podcast, no inclination to, but their twitter commentary at the moment is bizarre. Refs should just accept abuse or resign from the role??

There was a much more balanced discussion on abuse of refs on Talkback today  ;)

Id put as much faith in Talkback and Radio Ulster as I would a chocolate fireguard.

I hear William.Crawley is a regular visitor at Musgrave......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 04:56:06 PM
Only St Brigids would get a mention on BBC talkback, very upper class.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 18, 2022, 06:24:12 PM
The SV podcast is washed, need these idiots off stream, like an Arsenal Fan TV, stirring rubbish with no substance.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 18, 2022, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 18, 2022, 06:24:12 PM
The SV podcast is washed, need these idiots off stream, like an Arsenal Fan TV, stirring rubbish with no substance.

How's it going Ciaran?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: MoChara on October 18, 2022, 08:09:14 PM
I see the boards getting screenshot for their Twitter 😂

Wonder could I get a mention.

SV what a bunch of 12 year old meme lords
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 08:22:04 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 18, 2022, 08:09:14 PM
I see the boards getting screenshot for their Twitter 😂

Wonder could I get a mention.

SV what a bunch of 12 year old meme lords

Feck aff Ciaran  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 18, 2022, 08:49:17 PM
These lads on saffron voice are first class as far as I can see telling the truth too
More than knowledgeable about all aspects of Antrim football have listened all year to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 08:55:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 18, 2022, 08:49:17 PM
These lads on saffron voice are first class as far as I can see telling the truth too
More than knowledgeable about all aspects of Antrim football have listened all year to them.

Telling the truth? They said they were not at the Ballymena game, as in their own words "not give the County a shilling" they were at the match..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 18, 2022, 09:48:09 PM
Randalstown GAA  are shortlisted to win an all star for having clowns on a podcast / twitter account.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 18, 2022, 10:27:47 PM
They called me a bad name also which I found more funny than insulting.

Seriously though as MR2 said any shred of credibility they may have had was lost the second they mentioned the Cresslough disaster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
One thing they are right on is the farce of using St Enda's for big club games, if you don't agree you didn't attend the games there. The Belfast referees click thing going on is pretty obvious as well. Surprised they didn't mention Anto from Ld who wears an ear piece at all the games and stands at pitch side for some unknown reason.
Only negative they got a bit personal for my liking and I can't agree with doing that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
One thing they are right on is the farce of using St Enda's for big club games, if you don't agree you didn't attend the games there. The Belfast referees click thing going on is pretty obvious as well. Surprised they didn't mention Anto from Ld who wears an ear piece at all the games and stands at pitch side for some unknown reason.
Only negative they got a bit personal for my liking and I can't agree with doing that.

What click? , Anto organises the referees, assesses and encourages new younger ref's.. the county finals in hurling were done by inter county referees, inter county referee did senior football final, are we not to support these lads? He organises the radios and a lot of the time helps with the fourth official, do you think people just turn up at these games with a whistle?

there was 6 finals 3 Belfast clubs did the football and 2 north Antrim and a SW man did the hurling..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 11:13:22 PM
I must of hit a few nerve there, no need for Anto to be pitch side and everyone knows it. Are you an intercounty referee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 18, 2022, 11:24:33 PM
A bit personal.. 2 clowns. Why don't they run for a position . No chance !
They now claim  not to be part of there club and are not members of the Gaa.

Their club should put them forward after they win their all stars.

It Luke's bad for them.

I know... we are great supporters of the Gaa, no club , not even members of the Gaa, so let's start a podcast and promote  our games, ... stay classy boys.don't give up your day jobs . Good people will be about the Gaa long after you boys are gone.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 07:30:12 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 11:13:22 PM
I must of hit a few nerve there, no need for Anto to be pitch side and everyone knows it. Are you an intercounty referee?

You asked for an explanation I gave you it. You are the one with the problem. I gave you who the inter county ref's were and you are are still asking, I can't help you any further if you have issues take it up with your club secretary and allow your county delegate bring that to the county board, you are the one bringing up daft conspiracies so it seems you are the one that's annoyed  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 08:30:53 AM
Do remember the ref chauffeur Anto in his playing days....

Role model....??

But never any bother at L D games.....

And reason for ear piece.....looks good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 08:58:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 08:30:53 AM
Do remember the ref chauffeur Anto in his playing days....

Role model....??

But never any bother at L D games.....

And reason for ear piece.....looks good.

Did he give you a touch during an aul match?

Are we going to talk about teams behaviours on the pitch? I've a few stories funny enough that you had some involvement it, obviously not from a players perspective of course :D

Who mentioned role model? Honestly for someone who thinks he's a journo oh sorry was a journo, you don't read to well

This me against the world attitude is a bit boring guys, lighten up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 19, 2022, 09:25:32 AM
SV have you rattled MR2, no one else is allowed to comment or they're met with opposition from yourself no matter what the subject. Take a chill pill man Antrims affairs are not all to do with you and like most of us you play a very small part in the wider scheme of things. 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 08:58:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 08:30:53 AM
Do remember the ref chauffeur Anto in his playing days....

Role model....??

But never any bother at L D games.....

And reason for ear piece.....looks good.

Did he give you a touch during an aul match?

Are we going to talk about teams behaviours on the pitch? I've a few stories funny enough that you had some involvement it, obviously not from a players perspective of course :D

Who mentioned role model? Honestly for someone who thinks he's a journo oh sorry was a journo, you don't read to well

This me against the world attitude is a bit boring guys, lighten up
Think you would need to check your oil facts.....and stick to the linesman's role....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 10:17:13 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 19, 2022, 09:25:32 AM
SV have you rattled MR2, no one else is allowed to comment or they're met with opposition from yourself no matter what the subject. Take a chill pill man Antrims affairs are not all to do with you and like most of us you play a very small part in the wider scheme of things. 👍

Na, we should all have the same view on things, anyone one that has a different view is rattled or struck a nerve? Strange approach but hey again that's what you think..

This is a discussion board with various different views, that's ok, you aske the question and I've answered it from my own stand point, I'm not here on behalf of the county, I've been told on numerous occasions to come off the site by the county, I'm happy to do my own thing though.

I only do a bitta refereeing, nothing else, paid up member of the club and that's that. Never said I was anything else, if I did you can put that up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 19, 2022, 10:20:53 AM
Hmmm, I find this an interesting point here, I have noticed that over the semi finals in both hurling and football we have had a rinse and repeat of officials across hurling and football:

Take for instance Patrick Tumelty who is reffing what 2 years? Involved in SFC semi final as lines man, SFC final as linesman and SHC semi final as linesman, Minor B final football (a good LD man and friends of Toland and Anto)

Colm McDonald- SFC semi ref, SHC Final linesman and now U20A final ref (a friend of Toland and Anto albeit an intercounty hurling ref)

Toland- IFC semi referee and on the line for the SHC final and D1 playoff final (a LD man, head of refs and friend of Anto)

MR2- IFC semi final and final (always believed if you did the semi you didn't do the final) (a Belfast man and part of the Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis)

Kevin Parke- SFC final linesman and SHC final ref (again a intercounty hurling ref, however more vital a Belfast man and part of the Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis)

Charley Hemmingworth- SFC final linesman last year*, however what is most amazing is that he was banned the previous year for abusing a referee, in what other county would he be reffing under 12's again never mind on the line for  a SFC final the following year (what is vital is that he is Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis which is obvious by his umpiring for McDonald which almost cost Cargin dearly)

Look at the age profile of those refs barring Kevin (and Conall fair play he deserved his final) I do not see much of encouraging and bringing through young refs

Sorry to give facts MR2, however it is better than the blind faith you place in your paymasters



Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
One thing they are right on is the farce of using St Enda's for big club games, if you don't agree you didn't attend the games there. The Belfast referees click thing going on is pretty obvious as well. Surprised they didn't mention Anto from Ld who wears an ear piece at all the games and stands at pitch side for some unknown reason.
Only negative they got a bit personal for my liking and I can't agree with doing that.

What click? , Anto organises the referees, assesses and encourages new younger ref's.. the county finals in hurling were done by inter county referees, inter county referee did senior football final, are we not to support these lads? He organises the radios and a lot of the time helps with the fourth official, do you think people just turn up at these games with a whistle?

there was 6 finals 3 Belfast clubs did the football and 2 north Antrim and a SW man did the hurling..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 19, 2022, 10:20:53 AM
Hmmm, I find this an interesting point here, I have noticed that over the semi finals in both hurling and football we have had a rinse and repeat of officials across hurling and football:

Take for instance Patrick Tumelty who is reffing what 2 years? Involved in SFC semi final as lines man, SFC final as linesman and SHC semi final as linesman, Minor B final football (a good LD man and friends of Toland and Anto)

Colm McDonald- SFC semi ref, SHC Final linesman and now U20A final ref (a friend of Toland and Anto albeit an intercounty hurling ref)

Toland- IFC semi referee and on the line for the SHC final and D1 playoff final (a LD man, head of refs and friend of Anto)

MR2- IFC semi final and final (always believed if you did the semi you didn't do the final) (a Belfast man and part of the Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis)

Kevin Parke- SFC final linesman and SHC final ref (again a intercounty hurling ref, however more vital a Belfast man and part of the Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis)

Charley Hemmingworth- SFC final linesman last year*, however what is most amazing is that he was banned the previous year for abusing a referee, in what other county would he be reffing under 12's again never mind on the line for  a SFC final the following year (what is vital is that he is Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis which is obvious by his umpiring for McDonald which almost cost Cargin dearly)

Look at the age profile of those refs barring Kevin (and Conall fair play he deserved his final) I do not see much of encouraging and bringing through young refs

Sorry to give facts MR2, however it is better than the blind faith you place in your paymasters



Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
One thing they are right on is the farce of using St Enda's for big club games, if you don't agree you didn't attend the games there. The Belfast referees click thing going on is pretty obvious as well. Surprised they didn't mention Anto from Ld who wears an ear piece at all the games and stands at pitch side for some unknown reason.
Only negative they got a bit personal for my liking and I can't agree with doing that.

What click? , Anto organises the referees, assesses and encourages new younger ref's.. the county finals in hurling were done by inter county referees, inter county referee did senior football final, are we not to support these lads? He organises the radios and a lot of the time helps with the fourth official, do you think people just turn up at these games with a whistle?

there was 6 finals 3 Belfast clubs did the football and 2 north Antrim and a SW man did the hurling..

So with all that info can you give me or tell me who these young ref's are that are coming through that you would like to be doing the games?

Like I said there is no click that I'm part of, I get a text, I reply Y or N and move on, I don't live in Belfast, haven't for over 24 years now, so have never social met these ones you are on about. Is St Endas now Belfast and not SW? when did that happen as ones on here have been claiming them for years no as SW.... I suppose SW or Belfast to suit who's posting..

So with your knowledge of the ref's can you tell me who'd be best?  Obviously someone doing it over 2 years?

As for your facts I didn't change what you have said, you have added the AXIS whatever that means, Though you left out that Sean Laverty did the other semi final ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 19, 2022, 10:44:57 AM
Thou protest too much MR2

It was you that stated Anto promotes young refs and helps them..............I know for a fact a young ref Thomas (his surname escapes me) phoned Toland a few year ago asking why he was stuck doing Div 3 games and he was told to mind his place due to his age...............call that promoting all you want

I did leave Sean out as he was not rinsed nor repeated.

St Enda's is North Belfast geographically whether you like it or not, again a fact

Are you telling me a ref of two years is so indispensable he is the best option that exists over all the rest, nothing to do with the fact he is an LD man

As someone else said this year, rotten to the core




Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 19, 2022, 10:20:53 AM
Hmmm, I find this an interesting point here, I have noticed that over the semi finals in both hurling and football we have had a rinse and repeat of officials across hurling and football:

Take for instance Patrick Tumelty who is reffing what 2 years? Involved in SFC semi final as lines man, SFC final as linesman and SHC semi final as linesman, Minor B final football (a good LD man and friends of Toland and Anto)

Colm McDonald- SFC semi ref, SHC Final linesman and now U20A final ref (a friend of Toland and Anto albeit an intercounty hurling ref)

Toland- IFC semi referee and on the line for the SHC final and D1 playoff final (a LD man, head of refs and friend of Anto)

MR2- IFC semi final and final (always believed if you did the semi you didn't do the final) (a Belfast man and part of the Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis)

Kevin Parke- SFC final linesman and SHC final ref (again a intercounty hurling ref, however more vital a Belfast man and part of the Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis)

Charley Hemmingworth- SFC final linesman last year*, however what is most amazing is that he was banned the previous year for abusing a referee, in what other county would he be reffing under 12's again never mind on the line for  a SFC final the following year (what is vital is that he is Anto, Toland, McDonald and MR2 axis which is obvious by his umpiring for McDonald which almost cost Cargin dearly)

Look at the age profile of those refs barring Kevin (and Conall fair play he deserved his final) I do not see much of encouraging and bringing through young refs

Sorry to give facts MR2, however it is better than the blind faith you place in your paymasters



Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2022, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 18, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
One thing they are right on is the farce of using St Enda's for big club games, if you don't agree you didn't attend the games there. The Belfast referees click thing going on is pretty obvious as well. Surprised they didn't mention Anto from Ld who wears an ear piece at all the games and stands at pitch side for some unknown reason.
Only negative they got a bit personal for my liking and I can't agree with doing that.

What click? , Anto organises the referees, assesses and encourages new younger ref's.. the county finals in hurling were done by inter county referees, inter county referee did senior football final, are we not to support these lads? He organises the radios and a lot of the time helps with the fourth official, do you think people just turn up at these games with a whistle?

there was 6 finals 3 Belfast clubs did the football and 2 north Antrim and a SW man did the hurling..

So with all that info can you give me or tell me who these young ref's are that are coming through that you would like to be doing the games?

Like I said there is no click that I'm part of, I get a text, I reply Y or N and move on, I don't live in Belfast, haven't for over 24 years now, so have never social met these ones you are on about. Is St Endas now Belfast and not SW? when did that happen as ones on here have been claiming them for years no as SW.... I suppose SW or Belfast to suit who's posting..

So with your knowledge of the ref's can you tell me who'd be best?  Obviously someone doing it over 2 years?

As for your facts I didn't change what you have said, you have added the AXIS whatever that means, Though you left out that Sean Laverty did the other semi final ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 17, 2022, 04:18:11 PM
So how do we sort the referees situation out then?  They are critical and essential to our games. They are amateurs and part timers and do not deserve some of the abuse directed at them. None of them (well at least the vast vast majority) begin a match with a conscious bias against one team or the other.

And respect is a two way street.  We expect them to know the rules, be of a certain fitness level and act with complete impartiality.   The black card / yellow card situation is beyond a farce now and despite what some say, the referee has a huge bearing on how the match fares out by his (sometimes wavering) view of the tackle. Phantom strikes being reported by linesmen and umpires.

Whichever side of the argument you fall on, the referees need help, need constant training and need protection.   They should not have to deal with the abuse dished out to them in every single match whether that be an U7 Go Game or a Senior Championship final.

But what is the answer?  Wholesale red cards? captains only allowed to speak? enforced substitutions/black cards?      whatever it is needs a sensible debate as it feels like we cant go on like this

Spike put up a very good post....

Could we have a normal chat about it without constantly throw mud at people who can't defend themselves on here while ones hiding behind the keyboard

Would ye whist:

So you couldn't give me a name, you left Sean out as it didn't suit you

Geographically Hightown is Newtownabbey if we are trying to be funny

I used 2 two years because you gave off about PT doing games and he's only two years in? Like do you read what you put up?

I'm debating, would you rather nothing was said about it?

They said something rotten that I won't forget though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 19, 2022, 11:02:37 AM
So you couldn't give me a name, you left Sean out as it didn't suit you- I did leave Sean out, yes, it was not pertinent to my point, however that doesn't suit your all-out defence of your buddies

Geographically Hightown is Newtownabbey if we are trying to be funny- Funny their address on the Antrim website is Glengormely which forms party of a North Belfast constituency- not being funny but factual

I used 2 two years because you gave off about PT doing games and he's only two years in? Like do you read what you put up? I fail to see your point here, surely Colin Mallon, Paul Burns, Eamon Hammill etc could be given games as a linesman to get experience of SFC, men who have been reffing for a good few years

I'm debating, would you rather nothing was said about it? It seems it is only you allowed to debate, you started you post by saying Spike said can we not..............do you read what you post

They said something rotten that I won't forget though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Is the age groups being changed to u12, u14, u16, u18 next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 19, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Is the age groups being changed to u12, u14, u16, u18 next year?

Theres a clubs meeting next week to discuss it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2022, 11:49:56 AM
What club are the SV lads from ?
Only listened for the first time yesterday just to see what all the fuss was about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 19, 2022, 11:02:37 AM
So you couldn't give me a name, you left Sean out as it didn't suit you- I did leave Sean out, yes, it was not pertinent to my point, however that doesn't suit your all-out defence of your buddies

Geographically Hightown is Newtownabbey if we are trying to be funny- Funny their address on the Antrim website is Glengormely which forms party of a North Belfast constituency- not being funny but factual

I used 2 two years because you gave off about PT doing games and he's only two years in? Like do you read what you put up? I fail to see your point here, surely Colin Mallon, Paul Burns, Eamon Hammill etc could be given games as a linesman to get experience of SFC, men who have been reffing for a good few years

I'm debating, would you rather nothing was said about it? It seems it is only you allowed to debate, you started you post by saying Spike said can we not..............do you read what you post

They said something rotten that I won't forget though

Look this is my last post on this for a while as its melting my brain...

If you are willing to take a positive approach and come into do this then we will see a vast improvement on things as a fresh approach can only be good, from the outside in things probably seem a lot easier to manage, I wouldn't know. as like I say, I get the text and reply Y or N to the games, I couldn't care less if its reserve or under 15c
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 19, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Is the age groups being changed to u12, u14, u16, u18 next year?

Theres a clubs meeting next week to discuss it.

Fingers crossed they go for it, as I think it needs to change back to the old way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2022, 12:27:46 PM
Agreed - I don't think it's great the way it is.

u21 as opposed to u21?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 12:38:53 PM
is it country wide they are taking this approach??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 19, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Hope so, always felt like a natural order that didn't need to be changed.    though i wouldn't be against u18 1/2, u16 1/2 ....... as it seemed to balance school years and their peers out a bit better.   

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 19, 2022, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 19, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Is the age groups being changed to u12, u14, u16, u18 next year?

Theres a clubs meeting next week to discuss it.

Fingers crossed they go for it, as I think it needs to change back to the old way.

If a county wants to revert back to U18 for minor then all 18yo's won't be able to play in adult competitions...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2022, 11:49:56 AM
What club are the SV lads from ?
Only listened for the first time yesterday just to see what all the fuss was about.

They aren't worth fussing about over. and I see that they have been using twitter acting like trolls now as well !!! kids that know nothing !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on October 19, 2022, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 19, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Hope so, always felt like a natural order that didn't need to be changed.    though i wouldn't be against u18 1/2, u16 1/2 ....... as it seemed to balance school years and their peers out a bit better.   

It should be school year up until the end of primary school at least.

However for next weeks meeting Antrim should definitely go back to U12,14,16 and 18. - Let those who are U18 (not U17) play up if required/good enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 19, 2022, 01:53:03 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on October 19, 2022, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 19, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Hope so, always felt like a natural order that didn't need to be changed.    though i wouldn't be against u18 1/2, u16 1/2 ....... as it seemed to balance school years and their peers out a bit better.   

It should be school year up until the end of primary school at least.

However for next weeks meeting Antrim should definitely go back to U12,14,16 and 18. - Let those who are U18 (not U17) play up if required/good enough.
That option isn't on offer, you go u18 and those 18 if good enough aren't permitted to play adult football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 19, 2022, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 19, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on October 19, 2022, 11:08:43 AM
Is the age groups being changed to u12, u14, u16, u18 next year?

Theres a clubs meeting next week to discuss it.

Fingers crossed they go for it, as I think it needs to change back to the old way.

If a county wants to revert back to U18 for minor then all 18yo's won't be able to play in adult competitions...

That's daft, IMO of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 19, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Hope so, always felt like a natural order that didn't need to be changed.    though i wouldn't be against u18 1/2, u16 1/2 ....... as it seemed to balance school years and their peers out a bit better.   

I would agree with the 1/2 age groups as well.

Primary School currently is that way for Go Games as it takes the class group rather than age.

U12 changes it to the age group but i would still be in favour of the 1/2 grouping continuing.

I have never agreed that someone born 31st December and someone born 1st January can be in the same class at school and play for the same school team but for their own club one has to move up and age level.

And make it that if you are 18 and above you are allowed to play senior.

Although I think there are only the select few that truly should be playing senior at that age if not needed to make up the numbers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 19, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Hope so, always felt like a natural order that didn't need to be changed.    though i wouldn't be against u18 1/2, u16 1/2 ....... as it seemed to balance school years and their peers out a bit better.   

I would agree with the 1/2 age groups as well.

Primary School currently is that way for Go Games as it takes the class group rather than age.

U12 changes it to the age group but i would still be in favour of the 1/2 grouping continuing.

I have never agreed that someone born 31st December and someone born 1st January can be in the same class at school and play for the same school team but for their own club one has to move up and age level.

And make it that if you are 18 and above you are allowed to play senior.

Although I think there are only the select few that truly should be playing senior at that age if not needed to make up the numbers.

Why though? Small rural clubs might not have the bigger numbers to pull from so playing 18 year old lads is the norm. But ok to play them if their birthday falls on the 31st of Dec while their mate who's birthday falls differently can't!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2022, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 19, 2022, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 19, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Hope so, always felt like a natural order that didn't need to be changed.    though i wouldn't be against u18 1/2, u16 1/2 ....... as it seemed to balance school years and their peers out a bit better.   

I would agree with the 1/2 age groups as well.

Primary School currently is that way for Go Games as it takes the class group rather than age.

U12 changes it to the age group but i would still be in favour of the 1/2 grouping continuing.

I have never agreed that someone born 31st December and someone born 1st January can be in the same class at school and play for the same school team but for their own club one has to move up and age level.

And make it that if you are 18 and above you are allowed to play senior.

Although I think there are only the select few that truly should be playing senior at that age if not needed to make up the numbers.

Why though? Small rural clubs might not have the bigger numbers to pull from so playing 18 year old lads is the norm. But ok to play them if their birthday falls on the 31st of Dec while their mate who's birthday falls differently can't!

My point is that there are really only a select few that are truly good enough to be on a senior team at 18 but many are brought up to make up the numbers.

Being from a "small rural club" i understand the necessity to bring younger players up.

My point is that some are brought up before they are physically and mentally ready, due to the senior team being short of numbers.

It happens and will continue to happen, just my opinion on what i see myself.

So while trying to be obtuse you aren't really disagreeing with me there.

And the last point doesn't make sense.

If one lad turns 18 on 31st December he becomes eligible and then if his mate turns 18 on 3rd March, he then becomes eligible.

So once you turn 18 you are eligible.

Not that hard to follow I would have thought so what is your point?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 03:01:52 PM
Under 18s are allowed to play at senior level if minor grade changes to u-18.
At present minor, u-17 can not play at adult level....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 19, 2022, 03:06:29 PM
Because u17 was "decoupled" from senior our minors have got more games than usual and with less called off because there is no push from the senior or reserve manager for those players to turn out. If you went back to just a straight u18 without decoupling from adult competitions less games would be played, so the people who actually suffer are the weaker young players who aren't getting senior and having their own games moved, postponed and eventually cancelled because the adult coaches have borrowed 2 or 3 star lads. Let the kids play out their juvenile days, plenty of time to play adult football for the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 19, 2022, 03:14:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 03:01:52 PM
Under 18s are allowed to play at senior level if minor grade changes to u-18.
At present minor, u-17 can not play at adult level....
This is not what Croke Park are advising, a change by any county back to u18 will be on the basis they bring in a law preventing 18 year olds playing adult football. Decoupling as suchhh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 19, 2022, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 19, 2022, 03:14:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 19, 2022, 03:01:52 PM
Under 18s are allowed to play at senior level if minor grade changes to u-18.
At present minor, u-17 can not play at adult level....
This is not what Croke Park are advising, a change by any county back to u18 will be on the basis they bring in a law preventing 18 year olds playing adult football. Decoupling as suchhh

That's my understanding of it as well.

Hobsons choice for us in a small, rural club.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 19, 2022, 10:39:33 PM
When is the next online bullying abusive / saffron voice podcast out?

These 2 have no place in the GAA community, To call a young lad a RAT and abuse him online is unacceptable.

The  County PRO is one of the youngest in Ireland and does his very best to promote Antrim GAA and the clubs.
He volunteers his time.
He isn't paid  and  because he blocks the pair from twitter for constant negative comments they run a hate campaign against him.

Put your 2 names down and run against him at convention. To do this you will need to become a member of a club.

Stick that on your locked twitter account boys! Bullies and trolls wont win!





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 20, 2022, 08:45:35 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

Well put cb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

If you are actually a member of a club then you have the right to do that, if you are not a member of a club, any club then you have no say in such matters

If the will is there by the clubs then the delegates from the County will go with a motion to put in for a change

From any conversations I've had with mentors of that level its been an overwhelming majority to go back to what we had before, its not perfect, nothing is or there will always be someone unhappy, they generally are ones only concerned with how it effects their own interests and not the majority.

Not sure, if voted on, how quick it will resume, anyone got timelines on this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 20, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

If you are actually a member of a club then you have the right to do that, if you are not a member of a club, any club then you have no say in such matters

If the will is there by the clubs then the delegates from the County will go with a motion to put in for a change

From any conversations I've had with mentors of that level its been an overwhelming majority to go back to what we had before, its not perfect, nothing is or there will always be someone unhappy, they generally are ones only concerned with how it effects their own interests and not the majority.

Not sure, if voted on, how quick it will resume, anyone got timelines on this?

What you had before is not on offer.

It used to be that minor was u18 and the lads at 18 (above u17) could play in adult competitions which worked well for us. A lad would get to play at his core level with his peers and a run out for the reserves mostly and if good enough the odd run at senior. The more timid/less physically developed lads stayed and just played minor.
If there was an overlap in fixtures they played U18 which happened the odd time.

Now if you move to minor at 18 those 18yo's can only play minor.

Timeline wise I can tell you Down clubs need to put in their "preferred" option by tonight as that is when they have to reach a county wide consensus which I'm led to believe is fed back to Croke Park for a national wide decision.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 10:08:58 AM
As long as I can remember, and that is  while minor grade in our county was under-18 and I struggle to understand why such was changed....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 20, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

If you are actually a member of a club then you have the right to do that, if you are not a member of a club, any club then you have no say in such matters

If the will is there by the clubs then the delegates from the County will go with a motion to put in for a change

From any conversations I've had with mentors of that level its been an overwhelming majority to go back to what we had before, its not perfect, nothing is or there will always be someone unhappy, they generally are ones only concerned with how it effects their own interests and not the majority.

Not sure, if voted on, how quick it will resume, anyone got timelines on this?

What you had before is not on offer.

It used to be that minor was u18 and the lads at 18 (above u17) could play in adult competitions which worked well for us. A lad would get to play at his core level with his peers and a run out for the reserves mostly and if good enough the odd run at senior. The more timid/less physically developed lads stayed and just played minor.
If there was an overlap in fixtures they played U18 which happened the odd time.

Now if you move to minor at 18 those 18yo's can only play minor.

Timeline wise I can tell you Down clubs need to put in their "preferred" option by tonight as that is when they have to reach a county wide consensus which I'm led to believe is fed back to Croke Park for a national wide decision.

But whether its available now or not, the clubs need to put a motion to change that option of not allowing 18 year olds to play senior, its daft and will be a bigger problem for rural clubs like yours, the other thing is developing players onto a senior team nowadays isn't easy, kids are odd ffs, breaking into the senior changing room can take time and the way clubs are losing a lot of kids after minor is causing bigger issues down the road...

Giving younger lads a taste of senior and letting them dip their toes into it will give them confidence going forward, as an amendment to that they should only allow the 18 year old up to 6 or 7 games during the league and play championship if needed...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on October 20, 2022, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 20, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

If you are actually a member of a club then you have the right to do that, if you are not a member of a club, any club then you have no say in such matters

If the will is there by the clubs then the delegates from the County will go with a motion to put in for a change

From any conversations I've had with mentors of that level its been an overwhelming majority to go back to what we had before, its not perfect, nothing is or there will always be someone unhappy, they generally are ones only concerned with how it effects their own interests and not the majority.

Not sure, if voted on, how quick it will resume, anyone got timelines on this?

What you had before is not on offer.

It used to be that minor was u18 and the lads at 18 (above u17) could play in adult competitions which worked well for us. A lad would get to play at his core level with his peers and a run out for the reserves mostly and if good enough the odd run at senior. The more timid/less physically developed lads stayed and just played minor.
If there was an overlap in fixtures they played U18 which happened the odd time.

Now if you move to minor at 18 those 18yo's can only play minor.

Timeline wise I can tell you Down clubs need to put in their "preferred" option by tonight as that is when they have to reach a county wide consensus which I'm led to believe is fed back to Croke Park for a national wide decision.

But whether its available now or not, the clubs need to put a motion to change that option of not allowing 18 year olds to play senior, its daft and will be a bigger problem for rural clubs like yours, the other thing is developing players onto a senior team nowadays isn't easy, kids are odd ffs, breaking into the senior changing room can take time and the way clubs are losing a lot of kids after minor is causing bigger issues down the road...

Giving younger lads a taste of senior and letting them dip their toes into it will give them confidence going forward, as an amendment to that they should only allow the 18 year old up to 6 or 7 games during the league and play championship if needed...

Nowhere in any of the material circulated has there been any reference to dwindling numbers and the struggle of smaller clubs to continue to exist.  Pushing the age at which people can play adult to  over 18 exacerbates that problem. 

I am all for the restoration of minor to under 18 (or 18.5) and whilst I understand the theory behind 'decoupling' i think it's not going to help the smaller clubs.  Leave it the clubs to decide if a lad more than 17 is capable of playing senior whilst at the same time making it clear that fixtures wise, minor takes preference ie minor matches should not be moved around to accommodate one or two lads playing senior.

Did they/ anyone consider the merits of aligning of the underage with school years?  Is leaving cert in the south 18.5 year olds the same as it is in the north ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 11:09:37 AM
Quote from: podge on October 20, 2022, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 20, 2022, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 20, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 19, 2022, 11:25:35 PM
I hope we go back to U18.  99% of the minors I've seen play in the last year are nowhere near ready for senior panel.  Why they ever changed it in the first place is beyond me. There's something completely wrong with how the GAA makes it's decisions.

Our Association was founded on the basis of members calling the shots
All change emanates from the club's and reaching the central body via the provincial route.
Our Association was founded on the basis all change would flow from the bottom to the top but such has long been lost.
And now all comes from in the opposite route, top to bottom with highly paid individuals deciding on direction and all rule change....
All County secretaries are employed by the central body and are required to tow the Croke Park line....

If you are actually a member of a club then you have the right to do that, if you are not a member of a club, any club then you have no say in such matters

If the will is there by the clubs then the delegates from the County will go with a motion to put in for a change

From any conversations I've had with mentors of that level its been an overwhelming majority to go back to what we had before, its not perfect, nothing is or there will always be someone unhappy, they generally are ones only concerned with how it effects their own interests and not the majority.

Not sure, if voted on, how quick it will resume, anyone got timelines on this?

What you had before is not on offer.

It used to be that minor was u18 and the lads at 18 (above u17) could play in adult competitions which worked well for us. A lad would get to play at his core level with his peers and a run out for the reserves mostly and if good enough the odd run at senior. The more timid/less physically developed lads stayed and just played minor.
If there was an overlap in fixtures they played U18 which happened the odd time.

Now if you move to minor at 18 those 18yo's can only play minor.

Timeline wise I can tell you Down clubs need to put in their "preferred" option by tonight as that is when they have to reach a county wide consensus which I'm led to believe is fed back to Croke Park for a national wide decision.

But whether its available now or not, the clubs need to put a motion to change that option of not allowing 18 year olds to play senior, its daft and will be a bigger problem for rural clubs like yours, the other thing is developing players onto a senior team nowadays isn't easy, kids are odd ffs, breaking into the senior changing room can take time and the way clubs are losing a lot of kids after minor is causing bigger issues down the road...

Giving younger lads a taste of senior and letting them dip their toes into it will give them confidence going forward, as an amendment to that they should only allow the 18 year old up to 6 or 7 games during the league and play championship if needed...

Nowhere in any of the material circulated has there been any reference to dwindling numbers and the struggle of smaller clubs to continue to exist.  Pushing the age at which people can play adult to  over 18 exacerbates that problem. 

I am all for the restoration of minor to under 18 (or 18.5) and whilst I understand the theory behind 'decoupling' i think it's not going to help the smaller clubs.  Leave it the clubs to decide if a lad more than 17 is capable of playing senior whilst at the same time making it clear that fixtures wise, minor takes preference ie minor matches should not be moved around to accommodate one or two lads playing senior.

Did they/ anyone consider the merits of aligning of the underage with school years?  Is leaving cert in the south 18.5 year olds the same as it is in the north ?

Can't remember where I seen the article (could have been Gaelic life) that kids leaving the games after minor was high, not sure how it exacerbates the problem though

A player playing minor will always play his grade, if there is a senior game on later that day and he's fit to play then that's down to the player and coach, he's 18! and adult.

This isn't the article I was looking for, but highlights the issues facing rural clubs

The survey found that, as of September last, the number of players between nursery and U-18 in the whole of Longford was 2,031. Several clubs wouldn't be able to field minor teams without using U-16 players.

It's also of interest that only 275 boys enrolled in Longford primary schools last September and, since not all of them will play Gaelic football, it becomes apparent just how difficult the county will find it to produce good underage teams in years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 20, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Being the sports centre will help a lot I would imagine

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 20, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Being the sports centre will help a lot I would imagine

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

I don't think the students are all doing sports degrees though, and UUJ is now all, bar the pitches, based in Belfast I just think that UUJ has a better attraction with its Sigersons teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 20, 2022, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 20, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Being the sports centre will help a lot I would imagine

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

I don't think the students are all doing sports degrees though, and UUJ is now all, bar the pitches, based in Belfast I just think that UUJ has a better attraction with its Sigersons teams

Nearly too many big name players there and they've very little success to show for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 20, 2022, 12:51:24 PM
Also, Free the SV2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 20, 2022, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 20, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Being the sports centre will help a lot I would imagine

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

I don't think the students are all doing sports degrees though, and UUJ is now all, bar the pitches, based in Belfast I just think that UUJ has a better attraction with its Sigersons teams

Nearly too many big name players there and they've very little success to show for it.

Yeah, they generally get to the latter stages but college football is so fluid every year, a great intake of students (football wise) can lift a mediocre college to potentially winning it ..

And yes free those lads with foot in mouth disease
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on October 20, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

Low entry grades and scholarships surely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on October 20, 2022, 02:52:34 PM
 UU is a Magnet alright.Not too many Sigerson lately to show for this class that has been at their disposal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 20, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

Low entry grades and scholarships surely?

You saying the students are thick  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 20, 2022, 03:56:49 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 20, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

Low entry grades and scholarships surely?


UU just been rated in the top 40 universities in the Uk
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2022, 04:01:42 PM
They've had huge numbers for years. I was in one of the years where we got to the provincial minor final in the summer and only one player (brady) could get on the first team. Not one other player could get in the two teams. (I think Convery from Portglenone got on for the 2nds in the end).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on October 20, 2022, 04:24:57 PM
Hearing Ballymena sounding out a couple off Derry men to take the reins next season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 20, 2022, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: referee on October 20, 2022, 04:24:57 PM
Hearing Ballymena sounding out a couple off Derry men to take the reins next season

1 post  ???

I am pretty sure you joined here a while back with that username, posted a few rumours then disappeared again.

Or do you delete all your posts after a while and then restart when you hear a rumour?

Is that the tactic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on October 20, 2022, 05:49:26 PM
BO your not far off the mark,take a sabbatical from time to time,time will tell if it's a rumour,talking to a club chairman today who let me know they've approached their manager,who took them this year,again you make out off it what you want
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 20, 2022, 09:30:50 PM
Funny I noticed that myself. They definitely transferred in about half that team that got to Macrory final last year. Think it was 7/8 from one school in Coalisland alone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on October 21, 2022, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 20, 2022, 09:30:50 PM
Funny I noticed that myself. They definitely transferred in about half that team that got to Macrory final last year. Think it was 7/8 from one school in Coalisland alone.

I believe these boys transferred from a school which doesn't offer sixth form and it is the norm for many of them to transfer to HTC at that age.
No doubt the footballing ethos and ambitions (which seems to be missing in Antrim schools) played a factor in the decision to join HTC over other schools in the area.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
Had a quick look there at the 'Devenish All Star awards', and was wondering how many of the recipients were in fact nominated in the positions they were successful.
And, with all respects to those who made the decisions, not the voting voting public, just how did Adam Loughran not get an award.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 10:42:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
Had a quick look there at the 'Devenish All Star awards', and was wondering how many of the recipients were in fact nominated in the positions they were successful.
And, with all respects to those who made the decisions, not the voting voting public, just how did Adam Loughran not get an award.....??

Who would you take out for Adam? If you had a vote?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 10:44:29 AM
https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/325459
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 21, 2022, 10:45:46 AM
I thought it was great to see a couple of Pearses lads get awards and be recognised, plus big Kevin, what a warrior he has been for Dunloy down the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 10:44:29 AM
https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/325459

"I'm heavily involved with my own club. I'm on the committee and a coach. We all are volunteers because we enjoy it and we love it."

But because you are a referee you're a......  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 21, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 21, 2022, 10:45:46 AM
I thought it was great to see a couple of Pearses lads get awards and be recognised, plus big Kevin, what a warrior he has been for Dunloy down the years.

I agree, last year I thought a few more lads from Div 2 and 3 teams should have got awards, so it was good to see a bit of recognition for those divisions this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 21, 2022, 11:28:58 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 21, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on October 21, 2022, 10:45:46 AM
I thought it was great to see a couple of Pearses lads get awards and be recognised, plus big Kevin, what a warrior he has been for Dunloy down the years.

I agree, last year I thought a few more lads from Div 2 and 3 teams should have got awards, so it was good to see a bit of recognition for those divisions this year.
I agree with all championships being included, gives everyone something to aspire to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as such.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 21, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
Surprised to see Odhran McLarnon in there he must of had a great group stage of the championship because he definitely didn't warrant one from the knock out games I saw, nothing personal. Adam Loughran and Tomas McCann notable absences for their impact alone in their semi finals. But here, there is 7 Cargin men in there cant expect any more than that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2022, 12:00:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Should have one per championship and that would make it better I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 12:06:23 PM
I think it is a bit of a farce that it's not all stars for each championship. Could you imagine David Clifford missing out for some fella in division 4. It's crap that some of our boys who had a great year didn't make it on the team and some of the lads in junior championship did.  Adam was good for us but Ciaran Maginnis was arguably our best player the whole year and didn't get a mention. If it was done for each individual championship then more players from the likes of Dunloy and Pearses would have got more recognition as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yep all trivial in the grand scheme of things.   wouldnt disrespect referees by introducing junior, inter and senior gradings  ;) :D

     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 10:42:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 21, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
Had a quick look there at the 'Devenish All Star awards', and was wondering how many of the recipients were in fact nominated in the positions they were successful.
And, with all respects to those who made the decisions, not the voting voting public, just how did Adam Loughran not get an award.....??

Who would you take out for Adam? If you had a vote?

Conal Cunning, Liam Campbell, Paul McCann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM
So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2022, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 21, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
Surprised to see Odhran McLarnon in there he must of had a great group stage of the championship because he definitely didn't warrant one from the knock out games I saw, nothing personal. Adam Loughran and Tomas McCann notable absences for their impact alone in their semi finals. But here, there is 7 Cargin men in there cant expect any more than that.
But the 'nominated' individuals showed I individuals leading by a good margin at the end of public voting...
Big change at closing...just who, or what caused major change...?????

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 21, 2022, 01:31:38 PM
Well done to the winners but the voting is pretty meaningless. Half the team shoe horned into positions they werent nominated for. Doesnt make much sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 21, 2022, 01:31:38 PM
Well done to the winners but the voting is pretty meaningless. Half the team shoe horned into positions they werent nominated for. Doesnt make much sense.

I've seen that in the actual All Stars awards from Croke
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM
So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one

No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 21, 2022, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 21, 2022, 01:31:38 PM
Well done to the winners but the voting is pretty meaningless. Half the team shoe horned into positions they werent nominated for. Doesnt make much sense.

I've seen that in the actual All Stars awards from Croke


100%. I understand that getting punters to vote gathers interest but its for nothing really. Panel of journalists and whoever else picks the team have final say. Votes dont matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

you must be good at holding your breath
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one




No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.





I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

you must be good at holding your breath

;)

Sure the click is bound to collect something ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one




No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.





I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one




No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.





I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!

When you're eight points down in a county final its Gerard and Paul McCann you need.  As good as Adam is, when the pressure came on in that 2nd half it was Paul who raised his game and Adam who disappeared. Some men are built for leagues, and others for championships 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one

No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.


I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!

When you're eight points down in a county final its Gerard and Paul McCann you need.  As good as Adam is, when the pressure came on in that 2nd half it was Paul who raised his game and Adam who disappeared. Some men are built for leagues, and others for championships

Very unfair to say Adam went missing. And I wasn't talking about Adam in that last post. I was talking Tomas McCann. I said when the game is in the balance I'd pick Tomas to be on the ball. Look how many times he has saved Cargin! Including the semi final this year again Creggan. He also made a brilliant tackle against us in extra time that set up a score when they needed it most. Are you really going to pick Paul McCann over Tomas??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 21, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
They did last year and no doubt Parke will be ref of the year this year

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

you must be good at holding your breath

;)

Sure the click is bound to collect something ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 21, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
They did last year and no doubt Parke will be ref of the year this year

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

you must be good at holding your breath

;)

Sure the click is bound to collect something ::)

The SW ref?

It's actually newtownabbey ;)

My money is on big Sean, Croke park finals day! Minor also and great guy, despite what SV said of his performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 21, 2022, 05:47:23 PM
Yeah sure everyone else on this board is thick bar you MR2, give it a rest as you really are a piece of work!

Sean would be a great call, however I am sure that is a done deal you and the click have decided already

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 21, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
They did last year and no doubt Parke will be ref of the year this year

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

you must be good at holding your breath

;)

Sure the click is bound to collect something ::)

The SW ref?

It's actually newtownabbey ;)

My money is on big Sean, Croke park finals day! Minor also and great guy, despite what SV said of his performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 21, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 21, 2022, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 21, 2022, 01:31:38 PM
Well done to the winners but the voting is pretty meaningless. Half the team shoe horned into positions they werent nominated for. Doesnt make much sense.

I've seen that in the actual All Stars awards from Croke


100%. I understand that getting punters to vote gathers interest but its for nothing really. Panel of journalists and whoever else picks the team have final say. Votes dont matter.

Not a panel.of journists.......perhaps one....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 21, 2022, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one

No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.


I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!

When you're eight points down in a county final its Gerard and Paul McCann you need.  As good as Adam is, when the pressure came on in that 2nd half it was Paul who raised his game and Adam who disappeared. Some men are built for leagues, and others for championships

Very unfair to say Adam went missing. And I wasn't talking about Adam in that last post. I was talking Tomas McCann. I said when the game is in the balance I'd pick Tomas to be on the ball. Look how many times he has saved Cargin! Including the semi final this year again Creggan. He also made a brilliant tackle against us in extra time that set up a score when they needed it most. Are you really going to pick Paul McCann over Tomas??


I am being harsh on Adam, but I would pick the other 2 over him if I was heading into a championship decider.      Sure its only an opinion.  Adams a good player of course. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 21, 2022, 05:47:23 PM
Yeah sure everyone else on this board is thick bar you MR2, give it a rest as you really are a piece of work!

Sean would be a great call, however I am sure that is a done deal you and the click have decided already

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 21, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
They did last year and no doubt Parke will be ref of the year this year

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 21, 2022, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 11:43:34 AM
Have to say I disagree on this point.   Pearses and Dunloy should be fully recognised and deservedly given full Allstars treatment but at their own championship level.

Senior championship is operating at a higher grade, is more difficult and therefore should be recognised as suchhhhhhhhh.

Am not trying to detract from the Junior or Intermediate championships but those who had a great year in the senior championship such as Adam Loughran, should not be missing out just so someone, playing in a lesser competition can get an allstar.   It doesn't happen at national level.   

Caveat: Recognise the Devenish may not want to sponsor 3 awards either!

Knew it was you lol!!

Yeah I sort of agree with that but look, its all about opinions and while its great for the player to be recognised what do you get out of it other than a free dinner?

That said I'm waiting on referee of the year prize award  ;D ;D ;D ;D

you must be good at holding your breath

;)

Sure the click is bound to collect something ::)

The SW ref?

It's actually newtownabbey ;)

My money is on big Sean, Croke park finals day! Minor also and great guy, despite what SV said of his performance

I put a smiley face at Newtownabbey, you are getting your knickers in a twist.

Piece of work?

Look it's ok for you to have an opinion but if someone else has an opinion that's different to yours then they are a piece of work?

Wise up, the paranoia in the SW is very strong, no one, especially ref's don't care who wins or loses unless it's their club,  that's the first thing you have to recognise, when you realise that then you can move on, enjoy life ya miserable sod :o

#Uppatheclick #freethesv2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 11:51:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one

No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.


I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!

When you're eight points down in a county final its Gerard and Paul McCann you need.  As good as Adam is, when the pressure came on in that 2nd half it was Paul who raised his game and Adam who disappeared. Some men are built for leagues, and others for championships

Very unfair to say Adam went missing. And I wasn't talking about Adam in that last post. I was talking Tomas McCann. I said when the game is in the balance I'd pick Tomas to be on the ball. Look how many times he has saved Cargin! Including the semi final this year again Creggan. He also made a brilliant tackle against us in extra time that set up a score when they needed it most. Are you really going to pick Paul McCann over Tomas??

That's his job I wouldn't say saving cargin he's just doing his job same as rest of the players
Don't get me wrong Tomas is a class act always has been but what I'm saying is how important Paul and stork are to the cargin set up
We've only Con johnston to come in next year and bolster that too, but we are an ageing team apparently, good luck to the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 22, 2022, 12:50:47 AM
I'd think won't be like for like but deffo another great side coming to compliment what's already in place, always evolving that's why we stay there or there abouts and that's going on 30/40 years now may I add!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 22, 2022, 06:12:31 AM
Will young Johnston be eligible if these proposals go through for underage change?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 22, 2022, 03:07:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 22, 2022, 06:12:31 AM
Will young Johnston be eligible if these proposals go through for underage change?

Conhuir will not be eligible for seniors next year if minor grade returns to 18.
In such event Cargin are well staffed by teenagers like Conan Johnston, Benen Kelly, Cahir Donnelly etc who are chomping at the bit to get in there, but in truth cannot see many of the present squad stepping aside in the near future....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2022, 03:14:16 PM
Difficult to do whole sale changes when lads hit a certain age.. the McCann's getting on, Justin and O'Boyle a certain age to, McShane (under used this year) and of course Laverty ...

If they were to step down in next couple of years would that youthful team be equipped to step in?

With the lads that'll head off for college and drift away it doesn't look as good!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 22, 2022, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2022, 03:14:16 PM
Difficult to do whole sale changes when lads hit a certain age.. the McCann's getting on, Justin and O'Boyle a certain age to, McShane (under used this year) and of course Laverty ...

If they were to step down in next couple of years would that youthful team be equipped to step in?

With the lads that'll head off for college and drift away it doesn't look as good!
Not many drift away around these parts MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 22, 2022, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 11:51:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one

No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.


I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!

When you're eight points down in a county final its Gerard and Paul McCann you need.  As good as Adam is, when the pressure came on in that 2nd half it was Paul who raised his game and Adam who disappeared. Some men are built for leagues, and others for championships

Very unfair to say Adam went missing. And I wasn't talking about Adam in that last post. I was talking Tomas McCann. I said when the game is in the balance I'd pick Tomas to be on the ball. Look how many times he has saved Cargin! Including the semi final this year again Creggan. He also made a brilliant tackle against us in extra time that set up a score when they needed it most. Are you really going to pick Paul McCann over Tomas??

That's his job I wouldn't say saving cargin he's just doing his job same as rest of the players
Don't get me wrong Tomas is a class act always has been but what I'm saying is how important Paul and stork are to the cargin set up
We've only Con johnston to come in next year and bolster that too, but we are an ageing team apparently, good luck to the rest.


Don't know how Adam Loughran doesn't get an allstar his performance v PG1 in the semi worthy of one alone. The goal was out of the top drawer in those circumstances also got a great goal in the final. Would have Tomas in too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2022, 09:43:08 AM
Do hear that one or possibly two individuals were responsible for the production of the football 'All Star List.
Have had a lot of calls from dissatisfied 'voters' on the event.
They say, mostly without exception that when the 'public voting' closed huge changes followed prior to final result when previous outright leaders in that vote were relegated and positions were replaced by some who trailed in the public preferences and in a number of cases received award for a position in which the had not been nominated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2022, 10:01:51 AM
Jesus!!!  Some gurning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM
Anyone that pays more than 5 minutes to these all star awards and I include the main inter county ones, needs their head looked at
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 23, 2022, 12:45:16 PM
Debate + controversy = publicity.  Consolation nor affirmation found in these Awards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 23, 2022, 12:47:05 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM
Anyone that pays more than 5 minutes to these all star awards and I include the main inter county ones, needs their head looked at

Exactly
5 minutes is even too much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 23, 2022, 04:10:12 PM
By the look of the u20 hurling final ht score the county board could be getting the farce served up they deserve
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2022, 05:08:46 PM
So Under-20 football championship due to start next week following the non event which was the league.
Cargin may well be strong in this competition but with their date with the Glenties due the same date scheduled for the final of the under -20 championship and with a good number
'seniors' eligible for this last under age event they have a big  decision to make....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on October 23, 2022, 08:38:38 PM
You'd need to get to the final first before having any decision to make. But sure either way you'll always have the CCC to blame  ;D

Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2022, 05:08:46 PM
So Under-20 football championship due to start next week following the non event which was the league.
Cargin may well be strong in this competition but with their date with the Glenties due the same date scheduled for the final of the under -20 championship and with a good number
'seniors' eligible for this last under age event they have a big  decision to make....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 23, 2022, 08:50:15 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on October 23, 2022, 08:38:38 PM
You'd need to get to the final first before having any decision to make. But sure either way you'll always have the CCC to blame  ;D

Quote from: country bumpkin on October 23, 2022, 05:08:46 PM
So Under-20 football championship due to start next week following the non event which was the league.
Cargin may well be strong in this competition but with their date with the Glenties due the same date scheduled for the final of the under -20 championship and with a good number
'seniors' eligible for this last under age event they have a big  decision to make....

Great question, but do you think they should risk the first team under 20s in the qtr final and semis if they travel that far, and just don't turn up for the final if they happen to make it??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 23, 2022, 09:42:14 PM
Whatever about the timing of these competitions (and I'm not a great fan although I can see the difficulty trying to fit it in), is it really a huge problem for Cargin? They must have a huge amount of talented young lads at this age group and probably find it difficult to get them all some game time in their senior or reserve teams. I wouldn't imagine it's the most head pickling decision for RD to decide who is playing U20s and who is not but it's a great opportunity for the stack of other lads, and with or without their very best they'd still expect to be there or thereabouts.

Some boys play a lot of football matches. The vast majority don't play anywhere near enough. We lose sight of that sometimes.

Take your point and am sure such will reflect the decision made by those in charge.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 12:27:41 PM
Just looking at Antrim leagues, what has happened St Galls, Jesus they were some force to be reckoned with in 05-15
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 24, 2022, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 12:27:41 PM
Just looking at Antrim leagues, what has happened St Galls, Jesus they were some force to be reckoned with in 05-15

The 05-15 team are no longer there (so to speak)?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 12:27:41 PM
Just looking at Antrim leagues, what has happened St Galls, Jesus they were some force to be reckoned with in 05-15

Retirement.... But sure it'll come back around again, at some point, I hope  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:13:10 PM
what are you like at underge level, who are the strong clubs in Antrim at underage? St Brigids are getting big numbers? Aghagallon seems to be too but aren't a lot of their players from Lurgan and do their camogs not play in Armagh.
NAOMH ÉANNA are another club with big numbers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 12:27:41 PM
Just looking at Antrim leagues, what has happened St Galls, Jesus they were some force to be reckoned with in 05-15

Retirement.... But sure it'll come back around again, at some point, I hope  :o
I certainly think it will come again, and with likes of Terry O Neill and Paddy Murray helping out with young age groups it only going to help.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:13:10 PM
what are you like at underge level, who are the strong clubs in Antrim at underage? St Brigids are getting big numbers? Aghagallon seems to be too but aren't a lot of their players from Lurgan and do their camogs not play in Armagh.
NAOMH ÉANNA are another club with big numbers

The SW teams have taken things up a notch or six and have competed and won a lot of the football titles on offer these past number of years, giving the likes of Cargin a stiffer challenge.

St Brigids need to make a breakthrough and have just won minor but needs to make that transition into senior, the tools are their just need a good coach to make them be competitive.

As EOC1923 has pointed out, there are plenty people from within the club that have a huge determination to get things back to competing again, but bit off the mark just yet, tradition will translate to winning again

For a lot of clubs its making sure they get and keep the numbers to bring them through so Aghagallon are making strides in that dept at the minute and fair fecks to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2022, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:13:10 PM
what are you like at underge level, who are the strong clubs in Antrim at underage? St Brigids are getting big numbers? Aghagallon seems to be too but aren't a lot of their players from Lurgan and do their camogs not play in Armagh.
NAOMH ÉANNA are another club with big numbers

We've no Lurgan men playing for us at all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 24, 2022, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 24, 2022, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:13:10 PM
what are you like at underge level, who are the strong clubs in Antrim at underage? St Brigids are getting big numbers? Aghagallon seems to be too but aren't a lot of their players from Lurgan and do their camogs not play in Armagh.
NAOMH ÉANNA are another club with big numbers

We've no Lurgan men playing for us at all!

You tell him Jim - seems there are some still need a geography lesson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2022, 08:43:29 PM
There must be about 6 teams in Lurgan as it is lol...

Was at a SW annual presentation awards dinner about five or six years ago and Aghagallon were cleaning up the underage awards. No surprise they are reaping those benefits now of a  period of dedication to juvenile development.

Around then PG1 were starting their own new juvenile campaign with a group of 5 to 8 year olds.

The first fruit of that was a runaway win in SW under 13 league and winning Antrim Og Sport (under 14) before being beaten by extra time by Eglish (outright winners) in the ulster semi final a few weeks ago.

Evidence that the rewards are there for any club who really want to put the work in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 08:54:44 PM
Aghagallon doing well and putting in the work at underage, but one u17 title and 2 senior finals where they were on the easy side of the draw both times leaves me needing to be convinced we are witnessing anything of note just yet. Next season a very important one for them to stamp their authority at senior level if it's there and it could well be.
On a different note where have Saffron Voice gone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 08:54:44 PM
Aghagallon doing well and putting in the work at underage, but one u17 title and 2 senior finals where they were on the easy side of the draw both times leaves me needing to be convinced we are witnessing anything of note just yet. Next season a very important one for them to stamp their authority at senior level if it's there and it could well be.
On a different note where have Saffron Voice gone

No podcast tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 08:54:44 PM
Aghagallon doing well and putting in the work at underage, but one u17 title and 2 senior finals where they were on the easy side of the draw both times leaves me needing to be convinced we are witnessing anything of note just yet. Next season a very important one for them to stamp their authority at senior level if it's there and it could well be.
On a different note where have Saffron Voice gone

No podcast tonight?
None so far MR2, your ears won't be burning tonight 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 09:26:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 08:54:44 PM
Aghagallon doing well and putting in the work at underage, but one u17 title and 2 senior finals where they were on the easy side of the draw both times leaves me needing to be convinced we are witnessing anything of note just yet. Next season a very important one for them to stamp their authority at senior level if it's there and it could well be.
On a different note where have Saffron Voice gone

No podcast tonight?
None so far MR2, your ears won't be burning tonight 🤣

Thought a lot of the stuff was grand, and any promotion of our games has to be applauded, being nasty isn't required though, hopefully they can take the bitterness out and continue on..

As for giving me abuse, water off a ducks back  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 09:49:28 PM
Hear the S V lads are back on the air waves....chastened but unrepentant....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 24, 2022, 09:51:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 09:26:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 24, 2022, 08:54:44 PM
Aghagallon doing well and putting in the work at underage, but one u17 title and 2 senior finals where they were on the easy side of the draw both times leaves me needing to be convinced we are witnessing anything of note just yet. Next season a very important one for them to stamp their authority at senior level if it's there and it could well be.
On a different note where have Saffron Voice gone

New podcast out there - haven't listened to it but it is previewing u20 football and ulster club teams so dare I say maybe a reprieve for MR2 this week...

No podcast tonight?
None so far MR2, your ears won't be burning tonight 🤣

Thought a lot of the stuff was grand, and any promotion of our games has to be applauded, being nasty isn't required though, hopefully they can take the bitterness out and continue on..

As for giving me abuse, water off a ducks back  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 24, 2022, 09:56:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 20, 2022, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 20, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Being the sports centre will help a lot I would imagine

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 20, 2022, 11:57:20 AM
It's good to see an increase in the number of Antrim players being selected for UUJ compared to just a few years ago when Saffron representation was noticeably low. Think there's about 9 on the Freshers panel alone this year and four or five on senior panel. Can only be good for Antrim.

Done a few games already at the college, they have some lads coming through, it must be a magnet for GAA..

I don't think the students are all doing sports degrees though, and UUJ is now all, bar the pitches, based in Belfast I just think that UUJ has a better attraction with its Sigersons teams

Nearly too many big name players there and they've very little success to show for it.

Yeah, they generally get to the latter stages but college football is so fluid every year, a great intake of students (football wise) can lift a mediocre college to potentially winning it ..

And yes free those lads with foot in mouth disease

Free the SV 2!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

It's a pity they won't be at the games due to their not giving the county a shilling, you'll have to fill them in, oh wait ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM


Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

It's a pity they won't be at the games due to their not giving the county a shilling, you'll have to fill them in, oh wait ;D

On what......they will have to read S G for my recollection..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM


Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

It's a pity they won't be at the games due to their not giving the county a shilling, you'll have to fill them in, oh wait ;D

On what......they will have to read S G for my recollection..

Righty O
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM


Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

It's a pity they won't be at the games due to their not giving the county a shilling, you'll have to fill them in, oh wait ;D

On what......they will have to read S G for my recollection..

Righty O

Jeez MR2 you really are a nasty piece of work.....sue e..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM


Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

It's a pity they won't be at the games due to their not giving the county a shilling, you'll have to fill them in, oh wait ;D

On what......they will have to read S G for my recollection..

Righty O

Jeez MR2 you really are a nasty piece of work.....sue e..

When you're done abusing referees CB I think you'll find that its not me that's nasty  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 25, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Fair played to them. They know players from every club, big or small! And they've called out a few of the bad eggs in the county!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 25, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Fair played to them. They know players from every club, big or small! And they've called out a few of the bad eggs in the county!

Good in depth podcast, just no apologies for the singling out ones for abuse.

if you started giving off about the school management system in your place I wouldn't expect them to be too happy, you're also not daft enough to publicly say it, regardless if you believed you're right.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 25, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Fair played to them. They know players from every club, big or small! And they've called out a few of the bad eggs in the county!

Good in depth podcast, just no apologies for the singling out ones for abuse.

if you started giving off about the school management system in your place I wouldn't expect them to be too happy, you're also not daft enough to publicly say it, regardless if you believed you're right.
I don't recall any abuse, just warranted criticism.
You're also trying to liken JS' situation here to what the SV did, but they don't work for Antrim, so they can speak out all they like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 25, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Fair played to them. They know players from every club, big or small! And they've called out a few of the bad eggs in the county!

Good in depth podcast, just no apologies for the singling out ones for abuse.

if you started giving off about the school management system in your place I wouldn't expect them to be too happy, you're also not daft enough to publicly say it, regardless if you believed you're right.
I don't recall any abuse, just warranted criticism.
You're also trying to liken JS' situation here to what the SV did, but they don't work for Antrim, so they can speak out all they like.

Calling people rats
Using the deaths in Donegal to have a go at the county board

But sure you're happy with that tells me all I need to know about you

As for reference work and calling them out, it's them that were complaining about how the county banned their posts...

Have you any idea what's required to run a county GAA set up? I don't neither does Burt and Ernie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 06:59:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 25, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Fair played to them. They know players from every club, big or small! And they've called out a few of the bad eggs in the county!

Good in depth podcast, just no apologies for the singling out ones for abuse.

if you started giving off about the school management system in your place I wouldn't expect them to be too happy, you're also not daft enough to publicly say it, regardless if you believed you're right.
I don't recall any abuse, just warranted criticism.
You're also trying to liken JS' situation here to what the SV did, but they don't work for Antrim, so they can speak out all they like.

Calling people rats
Using the deaths in Donegal to have a go at the county board

But sure you're happy with that tells me all I need to know about you

As for reference work and calling them out, it's them that were complaining about how the county banned their posts...

Have you any idea what's required to run a county GAA set up? I don't neither does Burt and Ernie
You likened what they did to speaking out against an employer above, which is obviously wrong. They don't work for Antrim so they can speak all they like. The county didn't ban their posts either, only Twitter and Instagram can do that. Antrim blocked their accounts.
They're entitled to express their views, much of it is correct, but Antrim yes men like yourself obviously aren't going to like your paymasters being criticised so it's understandable you're getting a bit worked up over it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 07:28:11 PM
You agree then on people being called rats and the Donegal references? Ok!!

They blocked their accounts because they were having pots shot's at them, so having pot shots at the education board was my reference to JS

You're wrong on the yes man stuff, if you care to track back on here I've ridiculed plenty.

Paymasters? We don't get paid, it's not a job, If it was a job there wouldn't be a profitable one

I asked you, do you know how a county set is run? 

Who pays for it? Where does the money come from? Be keen to hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 07:37:23 PM
The main point is the reference about pot shots to the education board is not an equivalence to what SV did, they don't work for Antrim so they can and are entitled speak out all they like, for the third time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 07:37:23 PM
The main point is the reference about pot shots to the education board is not an equivalence to what SV did, they don't work for Antrim so they can and are entitled speak out all they like, for the third time.

Answered none of my other points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 25, 2022, 10:08:42 PM
Oh perfection has slipped *Bert and Ernie, or is Burt the Belfast version?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 25, 2022, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 25, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 24, 2022, 10:38:51 PM
Jeez those S V lads really know their stuff...previewed the upcoming under 20 championship with full knowledge within

.

Fair played to them. They know players from every club, big or small! And they've called out a few of the bad eggs in the county!

Good in depth podcast, just no apologies for the singling out ones for abuse.

if you started giving off about the school management system in your place I wouldn't expect them to be too happy, you're also not daft enough to publicly say it, regardless if you believed you're right.
I don't recall any abuse, just warranted criticism.
You're also trying to liken JS' situation here to what the SV did, but they don't work for Antrim, so they can speak out all they like.

Calling people rats
Using the deaths in Donegal to have a go at the county board

But sure you're happy with that tells me all I need to know about you

As for reference work and calling them out, it's them that were complaining about how the county banned their posts...

Have you any idea what's required to run a county GAA set up? I don't neither does Burt and Ernie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
So out of all that post that's what you comment on? Bert Burt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 25, 2022, 10:21:03 PM
Afraid have to agree with GITTS , and those lads on the S V podcast are not restricted in comment by any rule.

Still a free country and they are free to air personal views and although not an avid listener, as I said previously seems their contribution is well researched and very aware of club activity all over the county.
I do know they do have a big fan base in and around Toome.

Much of what I have heard seems innocent enough banter and only those with issues with youth will be offended...


M
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 25, 2022, 10:28:32 PM
To be honest I struggle to even be bothered to discuss anything with you as if it doesn't fit your agenda you go on a hissy fit, spewing bile, calling everyone stupid and slowly suffocating their wish to have a sensible discussion with the spokesman for the 'click' or the county board's hand puppet


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
So out of all that post that's what you comment on? Bert Burt?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 10:33:29 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 25, 2022, 10:28:32 PM
To be honest I struggle to even be bothered to discuss anything with you as if it doesn't fit your agenda you go on a hissy fit, spewing bile, calling everyone stupid and slowly suffocating their wish to have a sensible discussion with the spokesman for the 'click' or the county board's hand puppet


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
So out of all that post that's what you comment on? Bert Burt?

So you feel better to talk/ debate with people that are likeminded and not challenge your view? Ok

They ain't difficult questions in fairness.. but hey..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 25, 2022, 10:35:50 PM
Not at all but I do like to discuss with people who are open to other mindsets bar their own and their own agenda, you my friend are like the county board representative on this board who has received his negotiating training from the DUP

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Quote from: Would ye whist on October 25, 2022, 10:28:32 PM
To be honest I struggle to even be bothered to discuss anything with you as if it doesn't fit your agenda you go on a hissy fit, spewing bile, calling everyone stupid and slowly suffocating their wish to have a sensible discussion with the spokesman for the 'click' or the county board's hand puppet


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
So out of all that post that's what you comment on? Bert Burt?

So you feel better to talk/ debate with people that are likeminded and not challenge your view? Ok

They ain't difficult questions in fairness.. but hey..
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 11:03:02 PM
I've nothing to do with the county board in any shape or form... now if you choose to not believe that I can't help you...

I've said and posted on here numerous times about how things were badly done when it affected what I was trying to achieve when I was managing my senior team, or when I felt the county were doing things which I felt at the time were wrong.

My outlook on things have changed as I've got older and wiser, I've no understanding of how the county goes about their business, though it seems many do.

I've asked some very simple questions but yet to get any answers.

My views are entirely my own btw

So things that can be debated without people getting annoyed:

Few things that we all see is the under 20's needs a date in the fixture calendar but when can that be fitted in? It was never a league format until recently.

The county reduced the number of county championships games this year, thought it was good considering there was some games that were dead rubbers, but good that some clubs get an extra game or two in the championship

Juvenile league games are a mess, clubs are entering teams that they ain't able to field, that's a club issue not a county issue

The fixtures have to fit into the yearly calendar which the inter county games takes the lead I think, everything else is slotted into it after ..

The last thing is this,  the clubs agree to the motions and it's your club delegate who tables the motions and they are voted in or out.

The 'mess' is ours we are selfish with our own club, that's natural, we want what's best for us.

For me I think the non double headers would be to generate money, yes money as who pays the two senior managers plans? Physio, strength and conditioning coach, nutritionist, food, stats, challenge games away, buses, use of floodlights, gym membership, the kits, the hurls the balls the equipment? Then drop that down to all the age levels?

I've no idea how any county can afford it to be honest.. some of the figures banded about in successful counties is crazy and they have bigger supporters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 11:03:02 PM
I've nothing to do with the county board in any shape or form... now if you choose to not believe that I can't help you...

I've said and posted on here numerous times about how things were badly done when it affected what I was trying to achieve when I was managing my senior team, or when I felt the county were doing things which I felt at the time were wrong.

My outlook on things have changed as I've got older and wiser, I've no understanding of how the county goes about their business, though it seems many do.

I've asked some very simple questions but yet to get any answers.

My views are entirely my own btw

So things that can be debated without people getting annoyed:

Few things that we all see is the under 20's needs a date in the fixture calendar but when can that be fitted in? It was never a league format until recently.

The county reduced the number of county championships games this year, thought it was good considering there was some games that were dead rubbers, but good that some clubs get an extra game or two in the championship

Juvenile league games are a mess, clubs are entering teams that they ain't able to field, that's a club issue not a county issue

The fixtures have to fit into the yearly calendar which the inter county games takes the lead I think, everything else is slotted into it after ..

The last thing is this,  the clubs agree to the motions and it's your club delegate who tables the motions and they are voted in or out.

The 'mess' is ours we are selfish with our own club, that's natural, we want what's best for us.

For me I think the non double headers would be to generate money, yes money as who pays the two senior managers plans? Physio, strength and conditioning coach, nutritionist, food, stats, challenge games away, buses, use of floodlights, gym membership, the kits, the hurls the balls the equipment? Then drop that down to all the age levels?

I've no idea how any county can afford it to be honest.. some of the figures banded about in successful counties is crazy and they have bigger supporters
This is like the part in the movie Jerry Maguire when he writes his mission statement. What follows - Tumbleweed  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 26, 2022, 03:08:45 PM
What is the point in engaging with the board's Jamie Bryson

Quote from: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2022, 11:03:02 PM
I've nothing to do with the county board in any shape or form... now if you choose to not believe that I can't help you...

I've said and posted on here numerous times about how things were badly done when it affected what I was trying to achieve when I was managing my senior team, or when I felt the county were doing things which I felt at the time were wrong.

My outlook on things have changed as I've got older and wiser, I've no understanding of how the county goes about their business, though it seems many do.

I've asked some very simple questions but yet to get any answers.

My views are entirely my own btw

So things that can be debated without people getting annoyed:

Few things that we all see is the under 20's needs a date in the fixture calendar but when can that be fitted in? It was never a league format until recently.

The county reduced the number of county championships games this year, thought it was good considering there was some games that were dead rubbers, but good that some clubs get an extra game or two in the championship

Juvenile league games are a mess, clubs are entering teams that they ain't able to field, that's a club issue not a county issue

The fixtures have to fit into the yearly calendar which the inter county games takes the lead I think, everything else is slotted into it after ..

The last thing is this,  the clubs agree to the motions and it's your club delegate who tables the motions and they are voted in or out.

The 'mess' is ours we are selfish with our own club, that's natural, we want what's best for us.

For me I think the non double headers would be to generate money, yes money as who pays the two senior managers plans? Physio, strength and conditioning coach, nutritionist, food, stats, challenge games away, buses, use of floodlights, gym membership, the kits, the hurls the balls the equipment? Then drop that down to all the age levels?

I've no idea how any county can afford it to be honest.. some of the figures banded about in successful counties is crazy and they have bigger supporters
This is like the part in the movie Jerry Maguire when he writes his mission statement. What follows - Tumbleweed  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2022, 05:52:04 PM
So put up a debate and then pooh pooh it!

Nuff said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2022, 06:17:40 PM
Have a word with yourselves ffs..

This is getting tedious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 09:40:28 PM
I have revised my thoughts on the AllStar debate. They are a good initiative but including a junior player in the noms for P.O.Y then allowing a vote on it, not sure if it counts (the vote that is) but what a farce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 26, 2022, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 09:40:28 PM
I have revised my thoughts on the AllStar debate. They are a good initiative but including a junior player in the noms for P.O.Y then allowing a vote on it, not sure if it counts (the vote that is) but what a farce.

Total farce. Why not just have player of the year for senior, intermediate and junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 09:52:21 PM
Yes Jim totally agree, don't like to be picking holes but that's what they should of done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 26, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 26, 2022, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 09:40:28 PM
I have revised my thoughts on the AllStar debate. They are a good initiative but including a junior player in the noms for P.O.Y then allowing a vote on it, not sure if it counts (the vote that is) but what a farce.



Total farce. Why not just have player of the year for senior, intermediate and junior.

Vote waste of time......one individual from I N will make the decision.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 12:12:22 AM
I think there's a place for it and if people realise it's not necessarily who is the best player but more who had the biggest impact in their respective Championship then it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 27, 2022, 08:53:46 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 12:12:22 AM
I think there's a place for it and if people realise it's not necessarily who is the best player but more who had the biggest impact in their respective Championship then it's worthwhile.

And do you think the 'public' will be fooled again when they
did see the leaders in the poll at close of play pushed aside and reconstructed by an individual who is certainly not an avid spectator.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 27, 2022, 10:48:29 AM
Based on his quarter final, semi final and final performance/impact the winner has to be Kobo

Quote from: EOC1923 on October 26, 2022, 09:40:28 PM
I have revised my thoughts on the AllStar debate. They are a good initiative but including a junior player in the noms for P.O.Y then allowing a vote on it, not sure if it counts (the vote that is) but what a farce.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 27, 2022, 12:09:20 PM
Would go for McNabb. Delivered with pressure scores when Cargin needed them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 27, 2022, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 27, 2022, 08:53:46 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 12:12:22 AM
I think there's a place for it and if people realise it's not necessarily who is the best player but more who had the biggest impact in their respective Championship then it's worthwhile.

And do you think the 'public' will be fooled again when they
did see the leaders in the poll at close of play pushed aside and reconstructed by an individual who is certainly not an avid spectator.....

It was the same last year, the public vote meant nothing as those that topped the vote, even by large margins, didn't necessarily get picked.

All back to the behind closed doors vote of the panel....or maybe one person.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 28, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Just to mention that Frankie Wilson passed away this morning, the lad was an absolute gentleman, the very best . Thoughts and prayers with the family at this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2022, 08:43:27 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 28, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Just to mention that Frankie Wilson passed away this morning, the lad was an absolute gentleman, the very best . Thoughts and prayers with the family at this time.

Devastating news, an great guy lovely family man and a great Gael and sportsman.. Thoughts and prayers for his family during this period

Life is so short for some
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 28, 2022, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 28, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Just to mention that Frankie Wilson passed away this morning, the lad was an absolute gentleman, the very best . Thoughts and prayers with the family at this time.
Ah no that is truly awful news. RIP Frankie, a great player I know and also a great person by all accounts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 28, 2022, 08:52:07 AM
Awful. RIP Frankie. Gent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 09:11:00 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 28, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Just to mention that Frankie Wilson passed away this morning, the lad was an absolute gentleman, the very best . Thoughts and prayers with the family at this time.

Ah jesus. I saw a photo of him recently and wondered was he ill as he didn't look well. That's awful sad  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on October 28, 2022, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 09:11:00 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 28, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Just to mention that Frankie Wilson passed away this morning, the lad was an absolute gentleman, the very best . Thoughts and prayers with the family at this time.

Ah jesus. I saw a photo of him recently and wondered was he ill as he didn't look well. That's awful sad  :(

Hasn't been well for a while sadly. He once told me he wanted to retire to the Ards peninsula.

RIP Frankie, lovely lad who all the kids in Knock that I know couldn't speak highly enough of.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2022, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 28, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
Just to mention that Frankie Wilson passed away this morning, the lad was an absolute gentleman, the very best . Thoughts and prayers with the family at this time.
Desperately sad news , he was the same year as me at the Poly  a gentleman who always had a smile on his face
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on October 28, 2022, 10:34:07 AM
Heart breaking news, a gentleman, brilliant all round sportsman. Thoughts and prayers with his family.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2019/04/05/news/the-long-and-winding-road-frankie-wilson-on-drumaness-county-days-with-antrim-and-looking-after-northern-ireland-s-new-bre-1590712/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on October 28, 2022, 10:52:08 AM
Very sad news.  Great footballer. Ar dhéis Dé go raibh a anam uasal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 11:10:34 AM
I didn't realise Derriaghy had a club at some point. Awful sad this.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 28, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
They still do... its called Eire on

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 11:10:34 AM
I didn't realise Derriaghy had a club at some point. Awful sad this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2022, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: breakingball on October 28, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
They still do... its called Eire on

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 11:10:34 AM
I didn't realise Derriaghy had a club at some point. Awful sad this.

Well yes and no, I think they were stand alone clubs at one point then changed over, as Frankie says he moved on to Lamhs and some of the Eire og lads did at juvenile then went back to their 'own' clubs at senior

Can't remember playing against Derriaghy but remember Frankie for Lamhs, some pace and intelligent with the ball 

He came back into Antrim over 40's and still had pace ffs!!

Sadly missed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 28, 2022, 02:00:14 PM
Sad news.....Frankie was a super footballer and a most likeable lad.
May his good soul Rest in Peace, and Mary Queen of the Gael wrap her arms around and comfort his grieving family....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 03:56:31 PM
Quote from: breakingball on October 28, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
They still do... its called Eire on

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 11:10:34 AM
I didn't realise Derriaghy had a club at some point. Awful sad this.

Suppose that is the area alright but didn't think it was the same club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 28, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2022, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: breakingball on October 28, 2022, 01:28:47 PM
They still do... its called Eire on

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 11:10:34 AM
I didn't realise Derriaghy had a club at some point. Awful sad this.

Well yes and no, I think they were stand alone clubs at one point then changed over, as Frankie says he moved on to Lamhs and some of the Eire og lads did at juvenile then went back to their 'own' clubs at senior

Can't remember playing against Derriaghy but remember Frankie for Lamhs, some pace and intelligent with the ball 

He came back into Antrim over 40's and still had pace ffs!!

Sadly missed

Got to know him through the Masters. It is hard to take on. Full of life. Shit is not right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 28, 2022, 07:59:04 PM
I didn't have the pleasure of knowing him personally, but I certainly remember watching him play and he always gave his all and was very talented, played off the cuff a bit. RIP.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 28, 2022, 09:36:37 PM
Rest in peace Frankie, our paths never crossed personally but the last time I saw you was at the beach in Culdaff and you were living life to the full. Your passing puts a lot of things in perspective. Sincere condolences also to the Mc Auley family of Cargin on the passing of Kevin, a true Gael in every sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 29, 2022, 05:28:01 PM
Fair play to all the u20 footballers out plodding through the mud and rain today. As with every other year this age left to November. Need to wise up and play this age of championship in April / May, give young players a chance. Rant over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2022, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 29, 2022, 05:28:01 PM
Fair play to all the u20 footballers out plodding through the mud and rain today. As with every other year this age left to November. Need to wise up and play this age of championship in April / May, give young players a chance. Rant over

During the normal senior season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 29, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
Yes mid week or on Friday nights. Does the senior season mean no one else can play while it's on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 29, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
Yes mid week or on Friday nights. Does the senior season mean no one else can play while it's on?

The revival of the under 21 football championship back in the late 80s saw the competition started pre-senior league in March and completed by the end of April.
Proved hugely successful and no reason why such programme was not retained....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2022, 06:43:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 29, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
Yes mid week or on Friday nights. Does the senior season mean no one else can play while it's on?

There are senior hurling senior football there are juvenile games there are ladies and camogie there are divisional games and hardly anyone to referee the games,  it's not just that simple to just through them in April or May... it was and should be just a championship set up, running a league has proven to be unsuccessful

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 29, 2022, 07:10:57 PM
Championship only in April and May
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2022, 07:28:37 PM
It's difficult and all grades deserve to be given the proper attention it needs. I haven't even mentioned inter county commitments either..

There would be college games earlier in the year also, college games on now also

Not impossible but personally wouldn't have the first clue on fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
So only players from.Cargin up for young player of the year..

Be a tough decision for the main MAN, but perhaps another twist in the tale.
Sean og O'Neill was officially notified he had gained that same award last year but in the event somebody changed their mind.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2022, 10:25:58 PM
Even when there's nothing to complain about!!

Toys completely thrown clean out of the pram for no reason
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
So only players from.Cargin up for young player of the year..

Be a tough decision for the main MAN, but perhaps another twist in the tale.
Sean og O'Neill was officially notified he had gained that same award last year but in the event somebody changed their mind.

Ciaran Maginnis from aghagallon who has been their best player all year didn't even get a mention. Farce. Probably don't even know who he is!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2022, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
So only players from.Cargin up for young player of the year..

Be a tough decision for the main MAN, but perhaps another twist in the tale.
Sean og O'Neill was officially notified he had gained that same award last year but in the event somebody changed their mind.

Ciaran Maginnis from aghagallon who has been their best player all year didn't even get a mention. Farce. Probably don't even know who he is!

Are you really annoyed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:43:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2022, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
So only players from.Cargin up for young player of the year..

Be a tough decision for the main MAN, but perhaps another twist in the tale.
Sean og O'Neill was officially notified he had gained that same award last year but in the event somebody changed their mind.

Ciaran Maginnis from aghagallon who has been their best player all year didn't even get a mention. Farce. Probably don't even know who he is!

Are you really annoyed?

Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 30, 2022, 12:35:22 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:43:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2022, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
So only players from.Cargin up for young player of the year..

Be a tough decision for the main MAN, but perhaps another twist in the tale.
Sean og O'Neill was officially notified he had gained that same award last year but in the event somebody changed their mind.

Ciaran Maginnis from aghagallon who has been their best player all year didn't even get a mention. Farce. Probably don't even know who he is!

Are you really annoyed?

Yes

Ciaran another great game for aghagallon yesterday big things to come from him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 31, 2022, 10:15:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2022, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 30, 2022, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 29, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
So only players from.Cargin up for young player of the year..

Be a tough decision for the main MAN, but perhaps another twist in the tale.
Sean og O'Neill was officially notified he had gained that same award last year but in the event somebody changed their mind.

Ciaran Maginnis from aghagallon who has been their best player all year didn't even get a mention. Farce. Probably don't even know who he is!

Are you really annoyed?

I would say he is rightly annoyed, not just really annoyed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
Owen Gallagher motm galway county final. Suppose hardly matters now as he's gone to Galway but good to see an antrim man performing elsewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
St Mary's looking a new man I hear.. Must be a decent job to be going to, to be leaving a promising team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2022, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
St Mary's looking a new man I hear.. Must be a decent job to be going to, to be leaving a promising team
Welcome to Antrim Gaa discussion gossip column
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 31, 2022, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2022, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
St Mary's looking a new man I hear.. Must be a decent job to be going to, to be leaving a promising team
Welcome to Antrim Gaa discussion gossip column
He's right. The management team stepped down on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 31, 2022, 02:29:04 PM
Fair enough, that is a strange one. Unless he got fed up missing all the players most of the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2022, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 31, 2022, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2022, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
St Mary's looking a new man I hear.. Must be a decent job to be going to, to be leaving a promising team
Welcome to Antrim Gaa discussion gossip column
He's right. The management team stepped down on Sunday.

I know it was difficult with players out traveling or away for college but hopefully this won't slow down the progress and its early enough in the year to get in a really good coach or coaches (The SV seem to know their shit asss suchhhh  ;D I'm messing ) and be the missing link to get them over the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 02:57:18 PM
Is that not 2 years in a row there's been new management?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 31, 2022, 03:19:12 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 31, 2022, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 31, 2022, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
St Mary's looking a new man I hear.. Must be a decent job to be going to, to be leaving a promising team
Welcome to Antrim Gaa discussion gossip column
He's right. The management team stepped down on Sunday.

Hear former St Mary"s manager got a bad slap yesterday JS Kevin Murray taken to hospital with a bad facial injury......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 31, 2022, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 02:57:18 PM
Is that not 2 years in a row there's been new management?

Aye third diff manager in a row coming in - good job to take but at this stage given the level aghagallon have performed to in successive championships there will be an expectation on the manager to keep them there or get over the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 31, 2022, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 31, 2022, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 02:57:18 PM
Is that not 2 years in a row there's been new management?

Aye third diff manager in a row coming in - good job to take but at this stage given the level aghagallon have performed to in successive championships there will be an expectation on the manager to keep them there or get over the line
Strange all the same?  There will be candidates no doubt, but they'd be entitled to ask why the previous manager bailed after a year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on October 31, 2022, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 31, 2022, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on October 31, 2022, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2022, 02:57:18 PM
Is that not 2 years in a row there's been new management?

Aye third diff manager in a row coming in - good job to take but at this stage given the level aghagallon have performed to in successive championships there will be an expectation on the manager to keep them there or get over the line
Strange all the same?  There will be candidates no doubt, but they'd be entitled to ask why the previous manager bailed after a year.

True but the absence of key players through injury/America for the mid part of the season was probably enough. Hard to know who would go for it probably somebody who is definitely going to stick for few seasons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 02, 2022, 08:23:42 PM
I hear Big Noise got a mention on the SV podcast last night again. Celebrity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2022, 10:44:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 02, 2022, 08:23:42 PM
I hear Big Noise got a mention on the SV podcast last night again. Celebrity

Will they be at the Devinish this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 03, 2022, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2022, 10:44:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 02, 2022, 08:23:42 PM
I hear Big Noise got a mention on the SV podcast last night again. Celebrity

Will they be at the Devinish this weekend?
Hopefully two complimentary tickets have made their way to the SV recording studio as a token for their efforts to promote and shine a bit of a light on the club game in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2022, 09:39:47 AM
Good article from about Piaras Donaghy from Pearses in the Irish news wrt all stars.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/11/03/news/_representing_pearses_was_all_i_ever_wanted_to_do_-_club_captain_piaras_donaghy-2883102/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/11/03/news/_representing_pearses_was_all_i_ever_wanted_to_do_-_club_captain_piaras_donaghy-2883102/)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on November 03, 2022, 10:02:42 AM
Remember playing against him years ago, very good player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 03, 2022, 10:24:16 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 03, 2022, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2022, 10:44:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 02, 2022, 08:23:42 PM
I hear Big Noise got a mention on the SV podcast last night again. Celebrity

Will they be at the Devinish this weekend?
Hopefully two complimentary tickets have made their way to the SV recording studio as a token for their efforts to promote and shine a bit of a light on the club game in Antrim.

Despite negativity from some quarters SV are well informed and hugely knowledgeable on the strengths or otherwise of the goings on in our county and not afraid to voice opinions, negative or positive....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2022, 10:45:35 AM
I think most members of clubs will have the same knowledge in fairness.

The reporting of games is fantastic

Losing your shit and throwing the toys out of the pram is not a great look

There are loads of issues going on in every county, everyone is an expert but not actually willing to put themselves forward for positions

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 03, 2022, 12:31:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 03, 2022, 09:39:47 AM
Good article from about Piaras Donaghy from Pearses in the Irish news wrt all stars.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/11/03/news/_representing_pearses_was_all_i_ever_wanted_to_do_-_club_captain_piaras_donaghy-2883102/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/11/03/news/_representing_pearses_was_all_i_ever_wanted_to_do_-_club_captain_piaras_donaghy-2883102/)
A good read and nice to get some recognition for Pearses, but just because all your mates voted you onto an all star team doesn't mean you are getting a phone call from Andy McEntee. Just not at that level but nice to dream.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2022, 09:23:01 PM
What chance have cargin ? Have won 4 out of 5 champs so very experienced and poured a lot of money in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 03, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2022, 09:23:01 PM
What chance have cargin ? Have won 4 out of 5 champs so very experienced and poured a lot of money in

None.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 03, 2022, 11:15:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 03, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2022, 09:23:01 PM
What chance have cargin ? Have won 4 out of 5 champs so very experienced and poured a lot of money in

None.....

Yous certainly have a chance CB, or is that just a bit of online gamesmanship your at giving your lads no chance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 04, 2022, 12:13:00 AM
Has Cargin ever won a match in the ulster championship? Genuine question, I don't think they have or can't remember.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2022, 08:04:42 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 04, 2022, 07:48:04 AM
Beat Carrickmore in 1999.


Jeez what a memory D I E.....yep beat Carmen in Casementvand unlucky to lose to Cross by a couple of points in the semi final at Clones.
They went on to win the All Ireland.

Had a gig chance in 2000...die to play Bellaghy in round one, but ... .......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2022, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 03, 2022, 11:15:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 03, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 03, 2022, 09:23:01 PM
What chance have cargin ? Have won 4 out of 5 champs so very experienced and poured a lot of money in

None.....

Yous certainly have a chance CB, or is that just a bit of online gamesmanship your at giving your lads no chance?

You misunderstand.....BGA man...
We do have a chance but the money pouring in........Nah....!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 04, 2022, 11:24:09 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 04, 2022, 08:04:42 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 04, 2022, 07:48:04 AM
Beat Carrickmore in 1999.


Jeez what a memory D I E.....yep beat Carmen in Casementvand unlucky to lose to Cross by a couple of points in the semi final at Clones.
They went on to win the All Ireland.

Had a gig chance in 2000...die to play Bellaghy in round one, but ... .......

Maybe this year with the long break Cargin will show us they care about an Ulster campaign. No easy games though. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 04, 2022, 11:34:11 AM
"Show us they care" dear lord
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 04, 2022, 11:36:40 AM
Yes we tried to lose the games in Ulster in previous years, we will try to win this one instead  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2022, 11:44:23 AM
Glenties a battle hardened team who'll be hard beat. Definitely an interesting tie. Cargin knocking on the door of a win for a few years so hopefully will get over the line but I would have Glenties as favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 04, 2022, 11:46:57 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 04, 2022, 11:34:11 AM
"Show us they care" dear lord

maybe incorrectly worded: perhaps it didn't appear to be their 'focus' for the year ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 04, 2022, 11:54:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2022, 11:44:23 AM
Glenties a battle hardened team who'll be hard beat. Definitely an interesting tie. Cargin knocking on the door of a win for a few years so hopefully will get over the line but I would have Glenties as favourites.

Certainly will be tricky. Battle hardened and an established system of playing that will be tough to crack.  In saying that Cargin have appeared quite adept at adjusting their tactics and finding solutions mid game. Hard one to call as difficult to gauge the quality of Antrim club football against the rest of Ulster.   Glenties favourites but if Cargin manage the game correctly they could shade it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2022, 11:56:46 AM
Tbh Glenties look like a horrible team to play against. It'll be a battle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2022, 12:02:38 PM
Would love to see a Toome v Maghera semi final
Bit of a Derby game as such
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
IMO...Cargin showed Gweedore too much respect last time in Corrigan. Went 9 down and came back with a rattle in second half but clock ran out. Hopefully you can get in front and stay there this time. No matter who wins Antrim c'ship everyone should get behind them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2022, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
IMO...Cargin showed Gweedore too much respect last time in Corrigan. Went 9 down and came back with a rattle in second half but clock ran out. Hopefully you can get in front and stay there this time. No matter who wins Antrim c'ship everyone should get behind them.
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That bit was too evident last year from where I was standing  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2022, 01:39:02 PM
Too evident or not too evident MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2022, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2022, 01:39:02 PM
Too evident or not too evident MR?

Sorry, not too evident  ;D

Hopefully they get a result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 04, 2022, 02:13:44 PM
It is the same in any sport, I wouldn't expect everyone to be behind us but a lot of people will. Hopefully we can put up a good show, Glenties are difficult to play against and their previous record in recent years Ulster in very good (bookies prices show this), but these are the games you want your club to be involved in and for me Cargin beating them wouldn't be a big shock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 04, 2022, 02:25:29 PM
Cargin by 2..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 04, 2022, 04:10:14 PM
By all accounts cargin have went for challenge games this year down south against huge teams and did well albeit challenge games.
I would give us every chance v N Conaill and it will take a battling performance they won't be easily beaten but I believe cargin are in a good place
No injuries from what I've seen at training with the 5 week break helping in this instance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 04, 2022, 05:13:31 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 04, 2022, 04:10:14 PM
By all accounts cargin have went for challenge games this year down south against huge teams and did well albeit challenge games.
I would give us every chance v N Conaill and it will take a battling performance they won't be easily beaten but I believe cargin are in a good place
No injuries from what I've seen at training with the 5 week break helping in this instance.

Wonder why I was sworn to secrecy....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2022, 05:49:15 PM
If a club team in Ulster is sitting on hands doing nothing waiting for it's match I'd be very surprised and so would the opposition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on November 05, 2022, 05:31:41 PM
"sorry the councils" Clubhouse

What a pathetic comment ...

Stay classy....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 05, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Lads not allowed to play in their own age group is ridiculous.  Let them play away and enjoy their underage years. And don't blame the county. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on November 05, 2022, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 05, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Lads not allowed to play in their own age group is ridiculous.  Let them play away and enjoy their underage years. And don't blame the county. 

Nonsense those lads have a Ulster Quarter Final next Sunday. Only one winner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 05, 2022, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on November 05, 2022, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 05, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Lads not allowed to play in their own age group is ridiculous.  Let them play away and enjoy their underage years. And don't blame the county. 

Nonsense those lads have a Ulster Quarter Final next Sunday. Only one winner

Exactly! We were very poor against and average Moneyglass team. We didn't get going at all and the lads didn't really seem up for it right from the start. Moneyglass took their goal chances well and have a couple of handy footballers but I thought it was a poor enough quality game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 05, 2022, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on November 05, 2022, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 05, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Lads not allowed to play in their own age group is ridiculous.  Let them play away and enjoy their underage years. And don't blame the county. 

Nonsense those lads have a Ulster Quarter Final next Sunday. Only one winner
Talented young lads, 19 years of age, can't play two games a week apart?  In their
prime, club going well - let them play, it's an All County semi-final, not just some run of the mill league game. We're an amateur association, they just want to play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 05, 2022, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Dry your eyes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 05, 2022, 09:01:10 PM
What a pile of crap. Do the Cargin contributors to this board just come here to moan? You lost to a better team accept it and move on. You had a chance to close the game out with 10 minutes to go and could not take it - for the remaining 30 minutes you were second best, and St Brigids played half of extra time a man down. If it's not the CCC having the audacity to fix the U20 final on the same weekend as Cargin play in Ulster (oh wait...). As for hard to watch, I recall a senior county final not that long ago - what was the score again - something like a soccer match score. 

What a shower you are on this board.

End of rant.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on November 05, 2022, 11:55:41 PM
Pjoe could you please explain how Cargin played second fiddle?

Cargin gifted st Brids 2 goals which give them the game fact! Apart from that what did they actually score or even miss?

No hard feelings here but please give an accurate account of the game as apart from the goals which came from Cargin mistakes what did they score from play.1 goal !!

Anyway good luck in the final ,if lady luck is on your side next day out again you will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 06, 2022, 01:13:30 AM
Cargin would have walked the u-20s if they had their full panel at their disposal. Hampered by the fact their seniors have a ulster game next weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: City Dweller on November 06, 2022, 08:13:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 06:35:47 PM
Quote from: City Dweller on November 05, 2022, 05:31:41 PM
"sorry the councils" Clubhouse

What a pathetic comment ...

Stay classy....
Truth hurts, love it.


Oh dear.. perhaps this morning you will wake up and realise these sneering condescending comments make you sound like some posh Tory boy looking down your nose at clubs who don't own their grounds. (Does any club actually own their grounds?) 

I'm sure the gaels of Belfast who battled for years to get BCC to provide facilities for Gaelic Games from their rates, are most impressed.
Ardoyne, Pearses, St Malachys, Bredagh, Wolf Tones, East Belfast GAA and others all use Council owned pitches, indeed Woodlands is owned by the BCC.

Anyway best of luck in Ulster next weekend..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 06, 2022, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 08:18:11 AM
Quote from: City Dweller on November 05, 2022, 05:31:41 PM
"sorry the councils" Clubhouse

What a pathetic comment ...

Stay classy....
How's that pathetic? Stay Classy you say, hmmm I see you have no explanation to my accusation about your cronies in front of the council building?
My nephew has a soccer team near musgrave, they are applying for the lease on that wee building next CITY DWELLER. Go and buy some land, build your own pitch with funds from your elite membership.
Until you do that win all the underage titles you want, Na Piarsaigh are as close to a senior championship as you are !

Bit of a difference buying land round South Belfast and the swamp that is Toome!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 08:36:03 AM
At least people in the swamp have a bit of respect for their fellow gaels, money can't buy that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 06, 2022, 10:07:56 AM
Cargin posters on here should be called the IF men. We would have won IF

If I was allowed to stand where I liked
If we had other players on the pitch
If we didn't make mistakes
If the final wasn't scheduled for next weekend (oh wait that no longer matters  ;D

You were not good enough on the day. You lost. Sin e

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 02:44:37 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 05, 2022, 09:01:10 PM
What a pile of crap. Do the Cargin contributors to this board just come here to moan? You lost to a better team accept it and move on. You had a chance to close the game out with 10 minutes to go and could not take it - for the remaining 30 minutes you were second best, and St Brigids played half of extra time a man down. If it's not the CCC having the audacity to fix the U20 final on the same weekend as Cargin play in Ulster (oh wait...). As for hard to watch, I recall a senior county final not that long ago - what was the score again - something like a soccer match score. 

What a shower you are on this board.

End of rant.

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 05, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
Up in Musgrave at the U20s, thought the Cargin boys battled well controlled the game and lost with a couple of bad errors for the StBrigids goals. But by God StBrigids are a hard watch never seen such negativity scored 1pt in 1st half I think, Cargin unable to field Sean O Neill or Cahir Donnely due to senior commitments (the latter played extra time). Would most likely of been a different result had they played but that's success for you. Moneyglass reaching the final and will fancy it, it's a 50/50 game but it won't be easy on the eye.
Final rant wasn't even able to stand where I wanted, St Brigids officials only letting their own supporters stand in front of the their (sorry the councils) clubhouse on the halfway line, never witnessed a shower of up their own a#se individuals in all my life. Rant over!
You haven't a clue about football pal, what a clueless analysis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 06, 2022, 10:09:47 AM
Is that the same respect mentors show to match officials when they get red carded.  Or are they a different type of Gael?

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 08:36:03 AM
At least people in the swamp have a bit of respect for their fellow gaels, money can't buy that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2022, 11:43:12 AM
I take it you stood your ground EOC1923?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 11:48:43 AM
Naw, stood on the 45, while the upper elite got the half way line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 06, 2022, 04:02:49 PM
Now it doesn't hapPen often but belfast teams are allowed to beat country teams lads . Enough sour grapes here for case of wine
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 06, 2022, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 11:48:43 AM
Naw, stood on the 45, while the upper elite got the half way line.

Where there any prawn sandwiches on offer past the 45?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 06, 2022, 08:25:22 PM
Some people need to learn how to lose with a bit of grace. Ridiculous comments which do a disservice to Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 06, 2022, 08:44:34 PM
It sounds like the view from the half way line differs from the other areas of the ground at musgrave.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 06, 2022, 08:54:23 PM
Game over lads, Cargin lost, talking shite on here won't change the result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 06, 2022, 09:09:46 PM
Anybody ever wonder why Antrim don't do well as county ?
Absolute mystery
Must give Colombo a call
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 06, 2022, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 06, 2022, 08:54:23 PM
Game over lads, Cargin lost, talking shite on here won't change the result.


What did I miss.....are Cargin not senior champions again...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 06, 2022, 08:25:22 PM
Some people need to learn how to lose with a bit of grace. Ridiculous comments which do a disservice to Cargin.
We've lost a hell of a lot more than we ever won Brendan, losing final after final before your wee club was even born. No lectures required, and looking forward to the main event next week - Ulster Senior Club Championship, don't discuss as you again wouldn't have a clue what that is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2022, 09:57:54 PM
How much are the VIP tickets for games at Musgrave?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 06, 2022, 09:52:00 PM
That's not very respectful to your fellow Gael.

Though I will agree with you that it has nothing to do with losing. There is a certain belligerence on here win, lose or draw. As noted, it isn't at all reflective of the club.
Had to Google belligerent there DI. I am not hostile I have just taken offence at the way I was spoken to at Musgrave when I attempted to enter a sector of the ground. It doesn't reflect their whole club, letting go now and over it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2022, 10:11:20 PM
Very true
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 06, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 06, 2022, 09:57:54 PM
How much are the VIP tickets for games at Musgrave?

As you hail from the Malone road of aghagallon can you not organise a reciprocal for VIP tickets to games at musgrave
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 06, 2022, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 06, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 06, 2022, 09:57:54 PM
How much are the VIP tickets for games at Musgrave?

As you hail from the Malone road of aghagallon can you not organise a reciprocal for VIP tickets to games at musgrave

Brolly has sorted me 2 since i posted on here earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 07, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Covered PG1 v Sarsfields under-20 Sunday and impressed with man in the middle..
Some new whistler, and looks like he is going places..

Jeez I could not find fault....am I losing it....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2022, 07:40:25 AM
Being neutral does funny things to people CB ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 08, 2022, 07:49:41 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Covered PG1 v Sarsfields under-20 Sunday and impressed with man in the middle..
Some new whistler, and looks like he is going places..

Jeez I could not find fault....am I losing it....??
Could this be the olive branch needed to heal this long running rift
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2022, 08:57:51 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 08, 2022, 07:49:41 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Covered PG1 v Sarsfields under-20 Sunday and impressed with man in the middle..
Some new whistler, and looks like he is going places..

Jeez I could not find fault....am I losing it....??
Could this be the olive branch needed to heal this long running rift

I don't hold grudges, I tend to let my feelings be known and move on, life is way too short to worry about how people feel about you when in truth they actually don't even know you.

Had a good wee chat with a good Cargin man at the weekend, of course I wouldn't be flavour of the month up in the Loughshore direction but the reality is I've actually no rivalry 'as such' I'm a hurling man in a football club and while I played football right through to senior it was only to keep me fit for hurling ;)

I do love a bitta banter mind you. I'll be there at Corrigan hoping for an Antrim victory

Two good finals next week in the under 20's, Will the Belfast teams come out on top for a change? Well done to Colin on his appointment for the A final too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 08, 2022, 10:30:52 AM
I think Big Noise and CB need to get a room
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 08, 2022, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 08, 2022, 07:49:41 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Covered PG1 v Sarsfields under-20 Sunday and impressed with man in the middle..
Some new whistler, and looks like he is going places..

Jeez I could not find fault....am I losing it....??
Could this be the olive branch needed to heal this long running rift

Christmas has come early this year. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on November 08, 2022, 11:46:23 AM
Wouldn't they make a lovely picture in front of the official Antrim GAA Christmas card..................would look like Harry and Marv from Home Alone  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 08, 2022, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2022, 08:57:51 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 08, 2022, 07:49:41 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 07, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Covered PG1 v Sarsfields under-20 Sunday and impressed with man in the middle..
Some new whistler, and looks like he is going places..

Jeez I could not find fault....am I losing it....??
Could this be the olive branch needed to heal this long running rift

I don't hold grudges, I tend to let my feelings be known and move on, life is way too short to worry about how people feel about you when in truth they actually don't even know you.

Had a good wee chat with a good Cargin man at the weekend, of course I wouldn't be flavour of the month up in the Loughshore direction but the reality is I've actually no rivalry 'as such' I'm a hurling man in a football club and while I played football right through to senior it was only to keep me fit for hurling ;)

I do love a bitta banter mind you. I'll be there at Corrigan hoping for an Antrim victory

Two good finals next week in the under 20's, Will the Belfast teams come out on top for a change? Well done to Colin on his appointment for the A final too

Glad to see MANSY reffing the A-final the man was running around still scoring points for aghagallon B's this summer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 08, 2022, 10:04:19 PM
Hope it does mean the return to u12/14/16/18 was better than what we have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2022, 10:17:31 PM
Providing 18 year olds can play senior!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 08, 2022, 10:19:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2022, 10:17:31 PM
Providing 18 year olds can play senior!!

They can't is my understanding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 08, 2022, 10:23:07 PM
I feel nothing but contempt for those who went along with the change to U17 in the first place, ignoring those who were arguing that it was completely terrible idea for the reasons now being used to change it back  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2022, 10:28:36 PM
So by not allowing 18 year old men not play senior competitions we will lose players the same way!! Madness
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 08, 2022, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
My understanding is , there will still be 13/15/17  for one year (2023) but Counties can adopt additional 12/14/16/18 competions through a county bye law endorsed by Croke Park . Any subsequent changes to even only years would be voted on at Congress in February and implemented in 2024.

Antrim County committee voted to exclude 18 year olds from adult football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 07:22:41 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 08, 2022, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
My understanding is , there will still be 13/15/17  for one year (2023) but Counties can adopt additional 12/14/16/18 competions through a county bye law endorsed by Croke Park . Any subsequent changes to even only years would be voted on at Congress in February and implemented in 2024.

Antrim County committee voted to exclude 18 year olds from adult football
Good to see some progress on this but the 2023 season could be very frustrating knowing its going to be changed, but just not yet. Croke Park needlessly dragging their heels. The decoupling thing is so needless for all the amount of players it affects.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 07:34:22 AM
Going to head to Corrigan Park at the weekend to watch the Ulster Club game. Where is the best place to view the game? Is there areas segregated off for each group of fans?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 07:38:01 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 07:34:22 AM
Going to head to Corrigan Park at the weekend to watch the Ulster Club game. Where is the best place to view the game? Is there areas segregated off for each group of fans?

The St. Brigid's lads get the seats in the stand even if they're not playing. Cargin lads get the grass bank.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 09, 2022, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 07:38:01 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 07:34:22 AM
Going to head to Corrigan Park at the weekend to watch the Ulster Club game. Where is the best place to view the game? Is there areas segregated off for each group of fans?

The St. Brigid's lads get the seats in the stand even if they're not playing. Cargin lads get the grass bank.

Aye, I heard the county committee passed it last night too that St Brigids would be stewarding the game. All Cargin supporters have been asked to follow their normal protocol and post all complaints prior to throw-in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 09, 2022, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 07:38:01 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 07:34:22 AM
Going to head to Corrigan Park at the weekend to watch the Ulster Club game. Where is the best place to view the game? Is there areas segregated off for each group of fans?

The St. Brigid's lads get the seats in the stand even if they're not playing. Cargin lads get the grass bank.

Aye, I heard the county committee passed it last night too that St Brigids would be stewarding the game. All Cargin supporters have been asked to follow their normal protocol and post all complaints prior to throw-in.
Why are you still digging here Pjoe? Weekends underage game is over, I know Its nice for you to be able to mention the clubs in same paragraph but they're not really comparable are they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 09, 2022, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 09, 2022, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 07:38:01 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 07:34:22 AM
Going to head to Corrigan Park at the weekend to watch the Ulster Club game. Where is the best place to view the game? Is there areas segregated off for each group of fans?

The St. Brigid's lads get the seats in the stand even if they're not playing. Cargin lads get the grass bank.

Aye, I heard the county committee passed it last night too that St Brigids would be stewarding the game. All Cargin supporters have been asked to follow their normal protocol and post all complaints prior to throw-in.
Why are you still digging here Pjoe? Weekends underage game is over, I know Its nice for you to be able to mention the clubs in same paragraph but they're not really comparable are they?

I understand the super strength of under age teams up in South Belfast which includes a few from Toome.
But have St Brigid's ever won a senior championship or even came close....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2022, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 08, 2022, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
My understanding is , there will still be 13/15/17  for one year (2023) but Counties can adopt additional 12/14/16/18 competions through a county bye law endorsed by Croke Park . Any subsequent changes to even only years would be voted on at Congress in February and implemented in 2024.

Antrim County committee voted to exclude 18 year olds from adult football
Not true.

Antrim County Committee voted to change the age groups back to U12, U14, U16, U18

They voted for decoupling for the FIRST year of minor. A player in the second year of minor can play senior hurling IF this proposal is passed by Congress.

As a result Antrim County Board have been mandated by the clubs to vote for this option at Congress.

Cork, Kilkenny, Tyrone and now Antrim are in favour of changing to the original format.

However at Congress, the top table will not want to be left with egg on their face as it was them who proposed the age group change. As a result there may be a lot of horse trading with overseas votes where there is not any underage structures, with the exception of the US, Canada and Britain.

The present structure will remain in place for 2023. If Congress votes to change back to the original age groups that will be in place for 2024.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 10:11:09 AM
Thanks for that clarification AC, sounds like we have done all we can. The decoupling in first year of minor is fine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2022, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 08, 2022, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
My understanding is , there will still be 13/15/17  for one year (2023) but Counties can adopt additional 12/14/16/18 competions through a county bye law endorsed by Croke Park . Any subsequent changes to even only years would be voted on at Congress in February and implemented in 2024.

Antrim County committee voted to exclude 18 year olds from adult football
Not true.

Antrim County Committee voted to change the age groups back to U12, U14, U16, U18

They voted for decoupling for the FIRST year of minor. A player in the second year of minor can play senior hurling IF this proposal is passed by Congress.

As a result Antrim County Board have been mandated by the clubs to vote for this option at Congress.

Cork, Kilkenny, Tyrone and now Antrim are in favour of changing to the original format.

However at Congress, the top table will not want to be left with egg on their face as it was them who proposed the age group change. As a result there may be a lot of horse trading with overseas votes where there is not any underage structures, with the exception of the US, Canada and Britain.

The present structure will remain in place for 2023. If Congress votes to change back to the original age groups that will be in place for 2024.

An Aghagallon man told me Armagh will also be voting the same way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 09, 2022, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2022, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 08, 2022, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
My understanding is , there will still be 13/15/17  for one year (2023) but Counties can adopt additional 12/14/16/18 competions through a county bye law endorsed by Croke Park . Any subsequent changes to even only years would be voted on at Congress in February and implemented in 2024.

Antrim County committee voted to exclude 18 year olds from adult football
Not true.

Antrim County Committee voted to change the age groups back to U12, U14, U16, U18

They voted for decoupling for the FIRST year of minor. A player in the second year of minor can play senior hurling IF this proposal is passed by Congress.

As a result Antrim County Board have been mandated by the clubs to vote for this option at Congress.

Cork, Kilkenny, Tyrone and now Antrim are in favour of changing to the original format.

However at Congress, the top table will not want to be left with egg on their face as it was them who proposed the age group change. As a result there may be a lot of horse trading with overseas votes where there is not any underage structures, with the exception of the US, Canada and Britain.

The present structure will remain in place for 2023. If Congress votes to change back to the original age groups that will be in place for 2024.

An Aghagallon man told me Armagh will also be voting the same way.

haha  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 09, 2022, 02:07:45 PM
aghagalllon getting a former Down player to manage them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 02:10:28 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 09, 2022, 02:07:45 PM
aghagalllon getting a former Down player to manage them?
Ross Carr?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 09, 2022, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2022, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 08, 2022, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 08, 2022, 09:57:43 PM
Tweet from Joe Brolly.

Antrim County Committee just voted overwhelmingly (90%) to restore the under 18 grade. The main argument was the amount of players being lost to the games as a result of the u17 grade.

Does this mean it will go back to u16, 14, 12, 10 etc?
My understanding is , there will still be 13/15/17  for one year (2023) but Counties can adopt additional 12/14/16/18 competions through a county bye law endorsed by Croke Park . Any subsequent changes to even only years would be voted on at Congress in February and implemented in 2024.

Antrim County committee voted to exclude 18 year olds from adult football
Not true.

Antrim County Committee voted to change the age groups back to U12, U14, U16, U18

They voted for decoupling for the FIRST year of minor. A player in the second year of minor can play senior hurling IF this proposal is passed by Congress.

As a result Antrim County Board have been mandated by the clubs to vote for this option at Congress.

Cork, Kilkenny, Tyrone and now Antrim are in favour of changing to the original format.

However at Congress, the top table will not want to be left with egg on their face as it was them who proposed the age group change. As a result there may be a lot of horse trading with overseas votes where there is not any underage structures, with the exception of the US, Canada and Britain.

The present structure will remain in place for 2023. If Congress votes to change back to the original age groups that will be in place for 2024.


That initially wasn't an option and it isn't clear whether Croke Park will accept it as an option but if enough counties request it then it's hard to see it not going forward for a full vote come convention time.

I hope it succeeds as Down are proposing the same.

Antrim CB in all fairness to them held onto U14/16/18 for as long as possible, Down were forced into going a year earlier so we knew the implications before most and I think we'd an U18 team in Antrim and an U17 team in Down for one year IIRC..

Intercounty can go U17, U19 with U19 replacing minor if they want to alleviate pressure on some players but the split season also helps in this regard which we didn't have when these changes were first introduced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Double header at Dunsilly tomorrow... You see, they listen ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 09, 2022, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 02:10:28 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 09, 2022, 02:07:45 PM
aghagalllon getting a former Down player to manage them?
Ross Carr?

there has not been anything confirmed or even talk of who might be next manager. I was reading that Ross Carr is linked with managing his home team Clonduff again. I can't see him going down to the lough shore as such.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 09, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
I must have been at a different meeting because the motion I heard put to the floor and which was passed by the majority in the room was to decouple at 18 ie. Players in last year of minor Cannot play in adult competitions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Double header at Dunsilly tomorrow... You see, they listen ;)

There's one on Saturday aswell !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 07:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Double header at Dunsilly tomorrow... You see, they listen ;)

There's one on Saturday aswell !

Aye Saturday I mean  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 09, 2022, 08:35:14 PM
Tony Convery new Antrim minor manager, to be assisted by Shane Quinn and Laurence Higgins. Best of luck lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2022, 08:38:00 PM
Is there no body in aghagallon who can manage a team ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2022, 08:38:00 PM
Is there no body in aghagallon who can manage a team ?

All the best candidates are with underage teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2022, 08:56:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 09, 2022, 08:35:14 PM
Tony Convery new Antrim minor manager, to be assisted by Shane Quinn and Laurence Higgins. Best of luck lads.

Bs has he much past managing? (Not a slight if he doesn't as I know of him for years playing against him and suspect he'll be very good.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 09, 2022, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2022, 08:38:00 PM
Is there no body in aghagallon who can manage a team ?

All the best candidates are with underage teams

You not throwing your hat into the ring Jim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 09, 2022, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 09, 2022, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 09, 2022, 08:38:00 PM
Is there no body in aghagallon who can manage a team ?

All the best candidates are with underage teams

You not throwing your hat into the ring Jim?

Looking for the big job! U6s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 09, 2022, 08:35:14 PM
Tony Convery new Antrim minor manager, to be assisted by Shane Quinn and Laurence Higgins. Best of luck lads.
Good luck Tony, great fella hope it all goes well!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 10, 2022, 05:41:12 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 09, 2022, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 09, 2022, 08:35:14 PM
Tony Convery new Antrim minor manager, to be assisted by Shane Quinn and Laurence Higgins. Best of luck lads.
Good luck Tony, great fella hope it all goes well!!

Yep, agree with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 10, 2022, 09:53:51 AM
u20 B final Creggan v Sarsfields Creggan
U20 A final St Bridgids v Moneyglass   St Brigids
IFC  Cuchullains v An Clochan Liath  Cuchullains
SFC  Cargin v Naomh Conaill   Cargin

Think a full strength Dunloy are a formidable Intermediate team, i hope Cargin can get a result, i havent seen the Donegal men at all but talking to a few lads who have seen them this season they reckon the Toome lads are in with a good shout.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 09, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
I must have been at a different meeting because the motion I heard put to the floor and which was passed by the majority in the room was to decouple at 18 ie. Players in last year of minor Cannot play in adult competitions

The Antrim club delegates voted to change the age groups to U12, U14, U16, U18.

The debate then moved to the decoupling issue which prevented minor players playing senior which affects the playing pool of smaller clubs with reduced populations.

The compromise was to permit players in their second year of minor to be allowed to play senior hurling for their club. This was passed by the club delegates to be voted on at Congress, with the motion possibly to be proposed by the Antrim delegation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 10, 2022, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 09, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
I must have been at a different meeting because the motion I heard put to the floor and which was passed by the majority in the room was to decouple at 18 ie. Players in last year of minor Cannot play in adult competitions

The Antrim club delegates voted to change the age groups to U12, U14, U16, U18.

The debate then moved to the decoupling issue which prevented minor players playing senior which affects the playing pool of smaller clubs with reduced populations.

The compromise was to permit players in their second year of minor to be allowed to play senior hurling for their club. This was passed by the club delegates to be voted on at Congress, with the motion possibly to be proposed by the Antrim delegation.

The chair asked the room to vote on decoupling at 18 and the majority of the room stuck their hands up, never put to the room to decouple at 17, man beside me was looking to decouple at 17 and was talking to me after about his club would now struggle if this motion was implemented as they badly needed lads in last year minor to field!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2022, 12:56:57 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 10, 2022, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 09, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
I must have been at a different meeting because the motion I heard put to the floor and which was passed by the majority in the room was to decouple at 18 ie. Players in last year of minor Cannot play in adult competitions

The Antrim club delegates voted to change the age groups to U12, U14, U16, U18.

The debate then moved to the decoupling issue which prevented minor players playing senior which affects the playing pool of smaller clubs with reduced populations.

The compromise was to permit players in their second year of minor to be allowed to play senior hurling for their club. This was passed by the club delegates to be voted on at Congress, with the motion possibly to be proposed by the Antrim delegation.

The chair asked the room to vote on decoupling at 18 and the majority of the room stuck their hands up, never put to the room to decouple at 17, man beside me was looking to decouple at 17 and was talking to me after about his club would now struggle if this motion was implemented as they badly needed lads in last year minor to field!

Not every club is going to get what it needs, and while is was 'ok' back in the day the if a scrawny 17 year old lad came up against Gerard McCann for a 50/50 ball at pace it won't be pretty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2022, 01:56:22 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 10, 2022, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2022, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on November 09, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
I must have been at a different meeting because the motion I heard put to the floor and which was passed by the majority in the room was to decouple at 18 ie. Players in last year of minor Cannot play in adult competitions

The Antrim club delegates voted to change the age groups to U12, U14, U16, U18.

The debate then moved to the decoupling issue which prevented minor players playing senior which affects the playing pool of smaller clubs with reduced populations.

The compromise was to permit players in their second year of minor to be allowed to play senior hurling for their club. This was passed by the club delegates to be voted on at Congress, with the motion possibly to be proposed by the Antrim delegation.

The chair asked the room to vote on decoupling at 18 and the majority of the room stuck their hands up, never put to the room to decouple at 17, man beside me was looking to decouple at 17 and was talking to me after about his club would now struggle if this motion was implemented as they badly needed lads in last year minor to field!

The wording was 'decouple for the first year of minor'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 10, 2022, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 07:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Double header at Dunsilly tomorrow... You see, they listen ;)

There's one on Saturday aswell !

Aye Saturday I mean  ;D

Double header, changing facilities not adequate they said.

Jeez they are making it easy for the trolls. S V will be all over that.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 10, 2022, 02:26:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2022, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 07:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Double header at Dunsilly tomorrow... You see, they listen ;)

There's one on Saturday aswell !

Aye Saturday I mean  ;D

Double header, changing facilities not adequate they said.

Jeez they are making it easy for the trolls. S V will be all over that.....

Not charged as a double header it's 4 quid per match.
Which is fine I think if creggan and sarsfield spectators don't want to hang about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2022, 02:39:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 10, 2022, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 07:16:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 09, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2022, 04:24:12 PM
Double header at Dunsilly tomorrow... You see, they listen ;)

There's one on Saturday aswell !

Aye Saturday I mean  ;D

Double header, changing facilities not adequate they said.

Jeez they are making it easy for the trolls. S V will be all over that.....

They'll hardly be at it to worry about that

But there is 2 hours of a difference so hopefully the changing rooms will be free before the second game... Oh and have a pee before you go, just in case
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 11, 2022, 10:16:32 AM
Dunloy to win tomorrow by 3/4 points and Cargin to win on Sunday after extra time drama is my predictions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Both 50/50 games in my book. An Antrim double in Ulster would be a rare but welcome development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2022, 07:16:40 PM
If Dungloe play a typical defensive game it'll be interesting to see how Dunloy break through that.. I really hope Dunloy run them into the ground
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 11, 2022, 10:35:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2022, 07:16:40 PM
If Dungloe play a typical defensive game it'll be interesting to see how Dunloy break through that.. I really hope Dunloy run them into the ground

Dungloe aren't a defensive outfit. Quite the opposite in fact.

I predict a very tough day at the office for Dunloy, but a Cargin win by 1 in normal time to upset the odds.

Good luck to all involved in both games, as well as the U20 finalists tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 12, 2022, 10:31:54 AM
Good luck to Cargin and Dunloy. Hope the pints are well out of the system.  Can't say I know anything about the Donegal team but I'm sure it'll be a close encounter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2022, 12:30:28 PM
Tragic news coming out of Dunloy this morning. Shows there is more things than GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 12, 2022, 08:47:44 PM
Best wishes to our senior county champions tomorrow. Would love to see Cargin progressing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 12, 2022, 09:36:31 PM
Think our lads have really appreciated those few weeks in preparation for the visit of Glenties.

Cautious optimism within I think and I really believe  such positivity will be justified.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 09:56:44 PM
Well down to St Brigids today. A very strong second half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 12, 2022, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 09:56:44 PM
Well down to St Brigids today. A very strong second half
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that U15, Minor and U20 champions - impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2022, 07:36:53 AM
Seriously impressive season for St Brigids. It looks like they are going to be the next big team in the city. No reason (or excuses either) if this conveyor belt cannot keep this momentum going through to the development of an exceptionally strong senior squad.

Obviously serious work going on, rewards now flowing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 13, 2022, 09:29:50 AM
Very best of luck to the green machine today! Hopefully all fans can find amicable spaces to watch the match and the refereeing a much higher standard outside the county than in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 12, 2022, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 09:56:44 PM
Well down to St Brigids today. A very strong second half
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that U15, Minor and U20 champions - impressive.

Yes that is correct, great game yesterday, Moneyglass a strong team too .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 03:45:57 PM
Well done Cargin, some nerve to come back at the death twice and win on penalties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 04:02:17 PM
Fair played to Cargin! They're never bate. Some leaders in that team and a lot of the young fellas are showing the same leadership qualities as the aul fellas!
Commiserations to Moneyglass ladies. That's a great side they faced today.

Watching this glen and errigal match here. Some serious footballers playing. High level stuff!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 21, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 21, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 21, 2022, 12:27:41 PM


So leave the county Senior Champions with 1 player in the forward line and Aghagallon with 3?  Not sure about that one




No because my point is that the senior championship would have their own players. Cargin, Aghagallon, Creggan, PG1 etc would all have more chance as they wouldn't be up against junior and intermediate players well.

And Paul McCann is a good player but I wouldn't pick him over Adam Loughran. I'd have other Cargin players in before Paul.





I'd have Paul over every mccann brother
The work he does is unseen yet phenomenal for Cargin him and Big Stork two vital cogs in a well oiled machine

Good player surely. But I know when the game is in the balance I'd want Tomas on the ball!

I thought Tomas was good when it mattered today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Did anybody see Conor Glass post match interview?

Apparently said he doesn't know which team from Antrim the will meet saying teams from that county are never tough opponents...

Hope he did.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 13, 2022, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Did anybody see Conor Glass post match interview?

Apparently said he doesn't know which team from Antrim the will meet saying teams from that county are never tough opponents...

Hope he did.....

I think he mixed up his words I think he meant to say it will always be a tough opponent whoever comes out of antrim and then went on about his ma being a saffron woman. Any ideas where cargin v glen would take place ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2022, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 13, 2022, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Did anybody see Conor Glass post match interview?

Apparently said he doesn't know which team from Antrim the will meet saying teams from that county are never tough opponents...

Hope he did.....

I think he mixed up his words I think he meant to say it will always be a tough opponent whoever comes out of antrim and then went on about his ma being a saffron woman. Any ideas where cargin v glen would take place ?

Seen interview didn't read anything in it either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2022, 05:39:33 PM
Yeah that was my take on it. He said never but I don't think he meant to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2022, 06:06:55 PM
His Mums from Loughgiel, may have mixed words up a little but no slight meant. He's too well grounded for that!

Cargin gave county a lift today, a win in Ulster is always well earned but today was a dog fight of epic proportions. Creggan and Aghagallon both took Cargin to the same well, so bodes ok for standard of Antrim football at present.
Well done Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 13, 2022, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 13, 2022, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Did anybody see Conor Glass post match interview?

Apparently said he doesn't know which team from Antrim the will meet saying teams from that county are never tough opponents...

Hope he did.....

I think he mixed up his words I think he meant to say it will always be a tough opponent whoever comes out of antrim and then went on about his ma being a saffron woman. Any ideas where cargin v glen would take place ?

Probably armagh but omagh would be handier
If it was the older days where club grounds were used they could toss for it and play it in bellagy or Portglenone
Not a great day out for the fans though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 13, 2022, 09:46:49 PM


I thought Tomas was good when it mattered today!
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You're not wrong.   Good lift for the county that.  Talk about going to the well.   Great heart in that Cargin team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 09:54:05 PM
Says it all on here when there's about as much talk about a team winning an underage title in Antrim yesterday as there is for team fighting Antrims corner in Ulster and taking down the Donegal club champions and securing Antrims first win in the Ulster Club in 10 or so years. 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2022, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 09:54:05 PM
Says it all on here when there's about as much talk about a team winning an underage title in Antrim yesterday as there is for team fighting Antrims corner in Ulster and taking down the Donegal club champions and securing Antrims first win in the Ulster Club in 10 or so years. 🤔

Was chat on the Ulster thread about it too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 13, 2022, 09:59:53 PM
Is there a more easily offended, thin skinned bunch than the Cargin posters on here ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2022, 10:10:00 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 13, 2022, 09:59:53 PM
Is there a more easily offended, thin skinned bunch than the Cargin posters on here ?

The way an 18 year old steps up to the mark to almost casually stroking the ball just inside the post to claim a place in an Ulster semi final was a moment to savour.....says a lot on the direction Cargin intends to travel....
.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 13, 2022, 10:10:00 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 13, 2022, 09:59:53 PM
Is there a more easily offended, thin skinned bunch than the Cargin posters on here ?

The way an 18 year old steps up to the mark to almost casually stroking the ball just inside the post to claim a place in an Ulster semi final was a moment to savour.....says a lot on the direction Cargin intends to travel....
.
You're right CB
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 13, 2022, 10:16:27 PM
Looking like one of the semi finals on a Sat night. Owenbeg all ticket do rightly  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
The Cargin men have to be on the windup on here surely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2022, 10:31:41 PM
I think overall Glenties were the better team for large parts of the game, but if you don't put teams away you are leaving yourself wide open.

No reason now to get to a final.. Glen would have been cautious of Glenties so ya have to be optimistic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 13, 2022, 10:41:56 PM
What is your opinion MR2 on Paul faloon giving that glen goal - surely a free out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on November 13, 2022, 10:46:47 PM
I disagree MR2. Cargin looked the better of the two sides in both normal and extra time. I thought the Naomh Conaill goal directly from the long kick out and flick on in the second half would bury Cargins challenge, but from every set-back they stepped it up another gear each time. They were full value for the win. Side note: Could Andy McEntee not tempt Joh McNabb up to the County? Best keeper about by a mile. Balls on him like a Bengal Tiger.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
The Cargin men have to be on the windup on here surely.

The bitterness runs deep. Very strange behaviour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2022, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 13, 2022, 10:41:56 PM
What is your opinion MR2 on Paul faloon giving that glen goal - surely a free out?

Didn't see it, I've recorded the game will watch it tomorrow...

On Faloon I think he's very good and you have to earn your free, but I'll view it later
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2022, 10:53:04 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on November 13, 2022, 10:46:47 PM
I disagree MR2. Cargin looked the better of the two sides in both normal and extra time. I thought the Naomh Conaill goal directly from the long kick out and flick on in the second half would bury Cargins challenge, but from every set-back they stepped it up another gear each time. They were full value for the win. Side note: Could Andy McEntee not tempt Joh McNabb up to the County? Best keeper about by a mile. Balls on him like a Bengal Tiger.

It's just my view from what I watched, needing those last second efforts to stay in the game obviously shows the mental toughness Cargin have to get over the line, that'll be needed again the next day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 13, 2022, 11:00:41 PM
Great result for Cargin, never died and came back  from the dead more times than Lazarus

Despite their grit they only played in fits and starts....if they can throw the shackles off and play with confidence,  driving at Glen they can win. Don't wait to be behind to have a go

Kobo was class, breaking lines, takingthe game to them

Tomas outrageously good

Some of Shivers scores and his fisted equaliser pure class

Delighted for Closey with his scores

Great boost for the County

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 13, 2022, 11:04:32 PM
I only saw very brief highlights on Twitter of the game seems most of coverage was at EC V Glen game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
The Cargin men have to be on the windup on here surely.

The bitterness runs deep. Very strange behaviour.
Who's bitter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
The Cargin men have to be on the windup on here surely.

The bitterness runs deep. Very strange behaviour.
Who's bitter?
I'm pretty pleased, and glad my comment triggered a bit of praise for what was a monumental victory. Thanks to all for the nice comments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ClubScene13 on November 13, 2022, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 09:54:05 PM
Says it all on here when there's about as much talk about a team winning an underage title in Antrim yesterday as there is for team fighting Antrims corner in Ulster and taking down the Donegal club champions and securing Antrims first win in the Ulster Club in 10 or so years. 🤔

What a character
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 14, 2022, 09:18:15 AM
Brilliant result for Cargin, how many times have they looked dead and buried this season only to come back and win. Fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: Antrim on November 14, 2022, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
The Cargin men have to be on the windup on here surely.

The bitterness runs deep. Very strange behaviour.
Who's bitter?
I'm pretty pleased, and glad my comment triggered a bit of praise for what was a monumental victory. Thanks to all for the nice comments.

This is the type of stuff that will turn people against you. Yappy bastards.
Stay classy mate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on November 14, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
Mick McCann (Tomas might claim it!) deserves credit for the thought process in playing the 45' short at the end of normal time. If he'd have just lofted it in, the old square ball rule was in play and no Cargin men could have entered the square before the ball. But since he passed it Tomas, who floated it in from play (great pass) this meant that cargin players could enter the square after it had left Tomas' boot. 

I think that's the type of brains and game management that is very hard to coach, and no coincidence they are still at the top of their game in their advancing years.  All very fine margins at that level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: Antrim on November 14, 2022, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 13, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2022, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 13, 2022, 10:30:13 PM
The Cargin men have to be on the windup on here surely.

The bitterness runs deep. Very strange behaviour.
Who's bitter?
I'm pretty pleased, and glad my comment triggered a bit of praise for what was a monumental victory. Thanks to all for the nice comments.

This is the type of stuff that will turn people against you. Yappy bastards.
Stay classy mate

As an outsider you and your Bumpkin comrade do yer club absolutely no favours #mytuppence
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:05:22 AM

Re: Ulster club championship
« Reply #371 on: November 13, 2022, 03:47:10 PM »
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Cargin win penalty shootout! Brilliant drama

Well done Cargin

This was posted literally straight after the penalty was scored yesterday on the Ulster Club Championship thread.. So there was chat about it very quickly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2022, 11:06:19 AM
Quote from: JohnDenver on November 14, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
Mick McCann (Tomas might claim it!) deserves credit for the thought process in playing the 45' short at the end of normal time. If he'd have just lofted it in, the old square ball rule was in play and no Cargin men could have entered the square before the ball. But since he passed it Tomas, who floated it in from play (great pass) this meant that cargin players could enter the square after it had left Tomas' boot. 

I think that's the type of brains and game management that is very hard to coach, and no coincidence they are still at the top of their game in their advancing years.  All very fine margins at that level.

Just saw a video of that - very clever. Also any video I saw yesterday showed McNabb's save on Brick Molloy's penalty but one of his other saves was a lot better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:05:22 AM

Re: Ulster club championship
« Reply #371 on: November 13, 2022, 03:47:10 PM »
QuoteModifyRemove
Cargin win penalty shootout! Brilliant drama

Well done Cargin

This was posted literally straight after the penalty was scored yesterday on the Ulster Club Championship thread.. So there was chat about it very quickly
Fair enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2022, 11:06:19 AM
Quote from: JohnDenver on November 14, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
Mick McCann (Tomas might claim it!) deserves credit for the thought process in playing the 45' short at the end of normal time. If he'd have just lofted it in, the old square ball rule was in play and no Cargin men could have entered the square before the ball. But since he passed it Tomas, who floated it in from play (great pass) this meant that cargin players could enter the square after it had left Tomas' boot. 

I think that's the type of brains and game management that is very hard to coach, and no coincidence they are still at the top of their game in their advancing years.  All very fine margins at that level.

Just saw a video of that - very clever. Also any video I saw yesterday showed McNabb's save on Brick Molloy's penalty but one of his other saves was a lot better.

He was caught out badly for their goal but more than made up for it at the end... Shackles are off push on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Did anyone think there was more Donegal supporters than Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 14, 2022, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Did anyone think there was more Donegal supporters than Antrim?

For right or wrong I dont think Cargin would be bringing out that neutral support that other clubs might bring with them.

The Glen EC match was as close to county level football that you could get from two club teams. Could be a long day for them next time out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 14, 2022, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Did anyone think there was more Donegal supporters than Antrim?

For right or wrong I dont think Cargin would be bringing out that neutral support that other clubs might bring with them.

The Glen EC match was as close to county level football that you could get from two club teams. Could be a long day for them next time out.

I'm sure if there is one club in Antrim that has the low down on the clubs in south Derry it will be Cargin, RD will have a decent dossier on the Glen and they won't turn up to make up the numbers, at times yesterday Cargin were dead and buried, but like Tyson Fury getting up from the canvas they pulled it  out of the bag.

How do they stop Glen's midfield?  The pairing yesterday won't have the legs for 60 minutes against their 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2022, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 14, 2022, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Did anyone think there was more Donegal supporters than Antrim?

For right or wrong I dont think Cargin would be bringing out that neutral support that other clubs might bring with them.

The Glen EC match was as close to county level football that you could get from two club teams. Could be a long day for them next time out.

I don't think it's that to your first point at all. We don't get huge swathes of support for football at all in the county - Donegal a much bigger football county and I don't know the size of the clubs either. By all accounts Glenties aren't too loved in Donegal so I dunno how much neutral donegal support they'd get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 14, 2022, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Did anyone think there was more Donegal supporters than Antrim?

The Irish News certainly reports that Cargin supporters were heavily outnumbered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 14, 2022, 12:40:41 PM
Great win for Cargin and Antrim football in general. 3rd championship game in a row they have won in ET, some set of stones on them.

Owenbeg for Glen match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 14, 2022, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Did anyone think there was more Donegal supporters than Antrim?

The Irish News certainly reports that Cargin supporters were heavily outnumbered.

Highland said 4 to 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 14, 2022, 01:19:42 PM
Was that Cargin's first win in Ulster?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on November 14, 2022, 01:19:42 PM
Was that Cargin's first win in Ulster?

Nope, beat Carrickmore at Casement 1999 and only lost by a couple of points to Cross at Clones in semi final. They went on to win All Ireland Club that year.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway
Id imagine he means other Antrim gaels not Cargin supporters, but then you know this.

9 of your last 12 posts are about Cargin Pjoe, and not many of them are very nice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 14, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway 

Any St Brids stewards working at Corrigan at the weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 04:10:31 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 14, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway 

Any St Brids stewards working at Corrigan at the weekend?

Aye, they forced me up to the viewing gallery  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 14, 2022, 04:14:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2022, 04:10:31 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 14, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway 

Any St Brids stewards working at Corrigan at the weekend?

Aye, they forced me up to the viewing gallery  ;)

Nothing but the best MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2022, 04:18:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway
Id imagine he means other Antrim gaels not Cargin supporters, but then you know this.

9 of your last 12 posts are about Cargin Pjoe, and not many of them are very nice.

Yes i thought that was obvious but perhaps not.  If everyone in Duneane Parish turned up it wouldn't fill Corrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 14, 2022, 04:23:31 PM
Cargin are 7/1 to beat Glen with Boylesport there surely a bit of an insult to the Toome men EOC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway
Id imagine he means other Antrim gaels not Cargin supporters, but then you know this.

9 of your last 12 posts are about Cargin Pjoe, and not many of them are very nice.

Ok for the record. I was at Corrigan Sunday supporting Cargin. Great performance to dig out a win as not many teams in Antrim have progressed past the first round. Fair play and hopefully they progress and overcome Glen.

I'll fully support all Antrim clubs in Ulster/all Ireland campaigns and not stoop to calling any club "a shower", in any context.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway
Id imagine he means other Antrim gaels not Cargin supporters, but then you know this.

9 of your last 12 posts are about Cargin Pjoe, and not many of them are very nice.

Ok for the record. I was at Corrigan Sunday supporting Cargin. Great performance to dig out a win as not many teams in Antrim have progressed past the first round. Fair play and hopefully they progress and overcome Glen.

I'll fully support all Antrim clubs in Ulster/all Ireland campaigns and not stoop to calling any club "a shower", in any context.

See St Brigid's 'blow in' Brolly taking to Twitter anticipating a great Ulster Final.....Glen v Kilcoo....
Wonder does he reflect the opinion of the Musgrave inhabitants..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2022, 05:10:09 PM
Would imagine RD will be working on Glen's weak points than worrying about Joe Brolly.   Every team has a few, its just finding them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway
Id imagine he means other Antrim gaels not Cargin supporters, but then you know this.

9 of your last 12 posts are about Cargin Pjoe, and not many of them are very nice.

Ok for the record. I was at Corrigan Sunday supporting Cargin. Great performance to dig out a win as not many teams in Antrim have progressed past the first round. Fair play and hopefully they progress and overcome Glen.

I'll fully support all Antrim clubs in Ulster/all Ireland campaigns and not stoop to calling any club "a shower", in any context.

See St Brigid's 'blow in' Brolly taking to Twitter anticipating a great Ulster Final.....Glen v Kilcoo....
Wonder does he reflect the opinion of the Musgrave inhabitants..?

I think the only inhabitants in Musgrave are wild bats, a protected species I believe. You should maybe talk to them about it, a sensible conversation it would be no doubt  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 14, 2022, 05:44:13 PM
Is there an u20 ulster competition anymore ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 14, 2022, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 14, 2022, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

Corrigan is literally 35/40 minutes on the motorway from Toome. It takes almost as long to get from one side of Belfast to the other. Jeez I doubt Cargin supporters would be put off by a short drive up the motorway
Id imagine he means other Antrim gaels not Cargin supporters, but then you know this.

9 of your last 12 posts are about Cargin Pjoe, and not many of them are very nice.

Ok for the record. I was at Corrigan Sunday supporting Cargin. Great performance to dig out a win as not many teams in Antrim have progressed past the first round. Fair play and hopefully they progress and overcome Glen.

I'll fully support all Antrim clubs in Ulster/all Ireland campaigns and not stoop to calling any club "a shower", in any context.

See St Brigid's 'blow in' Brolly taking to Twitter anticipating a great Ulster Final.....Glen v Kilcoo....
Wonder does he reflect the opinion of the Musgrave inhabitants..?

Bumpkin tryin v hard to get offended by someone. Keep goin chap youll get there yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 06:55:51 PM
Offended by bat wardens....in Musgrave ...not offended.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 07:37:49 PM
Sure ye near wet yerself when ye thought big Glass had dissed yis in his interview 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 07:37:49 PM
Sure ye near wet yerself when ye thought big Glass had dissed yis in his interview 😂😂😂

Just fuel on the fire.....sure you know how is.....Jeez sorry sure you don't.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 07:56:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2022, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 07:37:49 PM
Sure ye near wet yerself when ye thought big Glass had dissed yis in his interview 😂😂😂

Just fuel on the fire.....sure you know how is.....Jeez sorry sure you don't.....

😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2022, 10:02:19 PM
Plenty of blow ins up around Musgrave, some from big clubs like Mr Brolly, others from small neighbouring clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 15, 2022, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

My geography might be off but I would have thought Cargin had one of the bigger catchment areas from the SW clubs? Granted Creggan are not too far down the road and there is a grey area as to where the club boundaries would be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2022, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: Caesar on November 15, 2022, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2022, 12:48:42 PM
Perhaps highlights the general apathy in Antrim for attending.  we could barely sell out Corrigan for the antrim v cavan championship match earlier in the year.  Cargin from a small rural parish divided 3 ways wasn't going to fill Corrigan.  Don't know if it is a travelling issue for Corrigan or if things would even change if shifted back up the country.  Hard to tell.  Felt like Ahoghill was getting good crowds of neutrals a few years ago.

My geography might be off but I would have thought Cargin had one of the bigger catchment areas from the SW clubs? Granted Creggan are not too far down the road and there is a grey area as to where the club boundaries would be.

Who would have the biggest and smallest catchment areas?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on November 15, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Cargin actually have a very small catchment area.
Newbridge take everything over the bridge.
Moneyglass have everything outside the bypass and a percentage in the village and almost everything past Cargin chapel is Creggan .When it is taken into account the numbers we actually have to work with you then realise how much Cargin actually punch above their weight.
On a similar note when I watched the game again last night I
hadn't noticed while at the game how little support we had there , shockingly bad support for our team which generally is well supported. Not sure what the reason was for that but if Cargin people can't come out and support our team we can't expect neutral and fellow county patrons to attend the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:44:50 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on November 15, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Cargin actually have a very small catchment area.
Newbridge take everything over the bridge.
Moneyglass have everything outside the bypass and a percentage in the village and almost everything past Cargin chapel is Creggan .When it is taken into account the numbers we actually have to work with you then realise how much Cargin actually punch above their weight.
On a similar note when I watched the game again last night I
hadn't noticed while at the game how little support we had there , shockingly bad support for our team which generally is well supported. Not sure what the reason was for that but if Cargin people can't come out and support our team we can't expect neutral and fellow county patrons to attend the game.

To be fair I thought there was a good amount of neutrals there, I was with a few Galls ones there was Portglenones I was talking to and plenty other city supporters there also, mainly over on the grassy bank or the east terrace as its called lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 15, 2022, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:44:50 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on November 15, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Cargin actually have a very small catchment area.
Newbridge take everything over the bridge.
Moneyglass have everything outside the bypass and a percentage in the village and almost everything past Cargin chapel is Creggan .When it is taken into account the numbers we actually have to work with you then realise how much Cargin actually punch above their weight.
On a similar note when I watched the game again last night I
hadn't noticed while at the game how little support we had there , shockingly bad support for our team which generally is well supported. Not sure what the reason was for that but if Cargin people can't come out and support our team we can't expect neutral and fellow county patrons to attend the game.

To be fair I thought there was a good amount of neutrals there, I was with a few Galls ones there was Portglenones I was talking to and plenty other city supporters there also, mainly over on the grassy bank or the east terrace as its called lol

Any st brigids ones on the grass bank ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 15, 2022, 01:15:32 PM
Any word on Aghagallon appointment or any of the other clubs? Think Aghagallon would be an interesting challenge for some1. I presume the majority of management teams are remaining in Div1. McNulty to remain, Douglas, McCabe and Herron all staying on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on November 15, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Who is douglas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on November 15, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Who is douglas

Aaron, I assume? St Johns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 15, 2022, 05:22:40 PM
Semi final fixed for Omagh.

WTF is the logic behind that??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on November 15, 2022, 05:31:04 PM
St galls played Bellaghy in the Ulster final 2005 I think in Omagh,couldn't be much in it either way, Rodger looking a job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 15, 2022, 05:45:10 PM
i was just curious as Aghagallon are now at a bit of a crossroads, couldnt believe the management stepped away in first place after the finish to their year. Must have a better propostion elsewhere. TNN also looking a manager i believe. Be one for BS or the likes..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on November 15, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
The SV lads should go for it #freetheSV2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 15, 2022, 06:11:56 PM
Didn't consider "home" advantage wouldn't be allowed so no to owenbeg but would Athletic Grounds not be closer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 15, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 15, 2022, 05:22:40 PM
Semi final fixed for Omagh.

WTF is the logic behind that??

If it has to be neutral its the most logical ground, no easy way in getting a neutral county ground for derry tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 15, 2022, 06:51:25 PM
I'd have went to the Athletic Grounds but f**k that hike to Omagh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 15, 2022, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Apparently it's been sorted and not as bad as it was
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 11:33:08 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 15, 2022, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Apparently it's been sorted and not as bad as it was

No excuses then. Get the motor full of the red stuff and get down the road!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 16, 2022, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Clooney Gaels vrs Liatroim is fixed for Dungannon this Saturday.

Pitches are hard to find evidently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2022, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 16, 2022, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Clooney Gaels vrs Liatroim is fixed for Dungannon this Saturday.

Pitches are hard to find evidently.

I saw this one online somewhere and thought it had to be a misprint?
Is it part of a double header or stand alone?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2022, 09:26:30 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 16, 2022, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Clooney Gaels vrs Liatroim is fixed for Dungannon this Saturday.

Pitches are hard to find evidently.

UUJ pitches at Jordanstown are in some nick, always have been, Queens pitches too for this time of year, obviously it doesn't fill the requirements of supporters and the like, but you really need to know why some pitches are just crap and if they are really intent on using these grounds then why the feck can they not look after them properly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2022, 10:10:18 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on November 16, 2022, 10:08:26 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 16, 2022, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 07:36:42 PM
Omagh a good venue as any. An hour down the road for both teams. Only worry be the rain and the surface.

Clooney Gaels vrs Liatroim is fixed for Dungannon this Saturday.

Pitches are hard to find evidently.

It's also at the Dungannon hurling club pitch, not O'Neill park which is currently closed for a major refurbishment. The Eoghan Ruadh HC venue is a nice enough spot but there's no covered stand so bring an umbrella in case the heavens open.

Played a few times at the O'Neill pitch, is it at the top of a hill? stand on the left hand side as you walk in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 16, 2022, 08:56:29 PM

Played a few times at the O'Neill pitch, is it at the top of a hill? stand on the left hand side as you walk in?

Well MR2 , we're you playing the flute or the drums
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 16, 2022, 09:23:56 PM
Cargin v Glen is live on TG4, be good to get watch it in full broadcast quality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2022, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 16, 2022, 08:56:29 PM

Played a few times at the O'Neill pitch, is it at the top of a hill? stand on the left hand side as you walk in?

Well MR2 , we're you playing the flute or the drums

Only hurling, is it a flute drum area?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 16, 2022, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 16, 2022, 09:23:56 PM
Cargin v Glen is live on TG4, be good to get watch it in full broadcast quality.

Even better to be there .......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 16, 2022, 10:39:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 16, 2022, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 16, 2022, 09:23:56 PM
Cargin v Glen is live on TG4, be good to get watch it in full broadcast quality.

Even better to be there .......

As long as it isn't at Musgrave - you are allowed past the 45 when you watch it in the living room
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody know why the Antrim refs minder should be stationed on the pitch all miked
up in an 'Ulster' club championship game......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on November 17, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody know why the Antrim refs minder should be stationed on the pitch all miked
up in an 'Ulster' club championship game......?

Can I ask how it affects you? Or is it just nosiness?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody know why the Antrim refs minder should be stationed on the pitch all miked
up in an 'Ulster' club championship game......?

Not all ref's have communication systems, now if you'd prefer the ref's to not have that then brill, if you'd prefer not to have a fourth official with a board informing the supporters on subs and minutes left then fine..

If you think these things just turn up on their own then I can't help you. At every inter county game or Ulster club senior  there is another 'official' who organises things, with your years of following teams I'd have assumed you'd know that bit at least.

I've done fourth official up in Owenbeg before and there was a lad who did all that

If you are a bit bitter about things then I can understand that too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 17, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody know why the Antrim refs minder should be stationed on the pitch all miked
up in an 'Ulster' club championship game......?

Can I ask how it affects you? Or is it just nosiness?

Just being nosey.....no Antrim ref available..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody know why the Antrim refs minder should be stationed on the pitch all miked
up in an 'Ulster' club championship game......?

Not all ref's have communication systems, now if you'd prefer the ref's to not have that then brill, if you'd prefer not to have a fourth official with a board informing the supporters on subs and minutes left then fine..

If you think these things just turn up on their own then I can't help you. At every inter county game or Ulster club senior  there is another 'official' who organises things, with your years of following teams I'd have assumed you'd know that bit at least.

I've done fourth official up in Owenbeg before and there was a lad who did all that

If you are a bit bitter about things then I can understand that too

Key word in your lengthy reply is 'Ref'....thus the query....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2022, 05:51:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 17, 2022, 01:27:22 PM
Anybody know why the Antrim refs minder should be stationed on the pitch all miked
up in an 'Ulster' club championship game......?

Not all ref's have communication systems, now if you'd prefer the ref's to not have that then brill, if you'd prefer not to have a fourth official with a board informing the supporters on subs and minutes left then fine..

If you think these things just turn up on their own then I can't help you. At every inter county game or Ulster club senior  there is another 'official' who organises things, with your years of following teams I'd have assumed you'd know that bit at least.

I've done fourth official up in Owenbeg before and there was a lad who did all that

If you are a bit bitter about things then I can understand that too

Key word in your lengthy reply is 'Ref'....thus the query....

So the reply/answer doesn't suit your agenda?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2022, 09:42:19 PM
Here we go again...

So much for the truce
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 17, 2022, 10:04:15 PM
Cargin Creggan ports moneyglass and South west flying and south belfast flying
Should Gaelfast concentrate on west belfast? What do you all think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 17, 2022, 10:07:08 PM
Well down cargin and st brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 18, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
For once we could have the situation where a lot of rival SW clubs secretly want a Cargin win over Glen.  To have that smug feeling over their former Maghera and Magherafelt Alumni after years of looking down their noses should not be underestimated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 18, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 18, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
For once we could have the situation where a lot of rival SW clubs secretly want a Cargin win over Glen.  To have that smug feeling over their former Maghera and Magherafelt Alumni after years of looking down their noses should not be underestimated.

I would like to think Antrim Gaels from all clubs will be supporting Cargin in Ulster regardless of the opposition, but agree the opportunity to take our nearest neighbours down a peg or two makes it that wee bit easier to get behind the Toome men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2022, 01:06:42 PM
Glen are a bit of a well oiled machine,  multiple St Paul's minor and Creggan under 21 Ulster titles before they appointed Malachy O Rourke and his entire proven backroom team to lead them to a first John Mc Laughlin Cup before retaining it with ease in year two.

Cargin deservedly won another Antrim club championship, showing great resilience to come out on top after extra time in the semi final and final itself. Should they deliver a competitive performance against Glen it will be a massive filip to the teams in Antrim who gave Cargin a great run for their money and be a great incentive for the following pack to do what they can to find the extra % needed to close the gap.

Really looking forward to this one and expect Cargin to beat the handicap odds of even money plus an 8 point start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2022, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: Caesar on November 18, 2022, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 18, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
For once we could have the situation where a lot of rival SW clubs secretly want a Cargin win over Glen.  To have that smug feeling over their former Maghera and Magherafelt Alumni after years of looking down their noses should not be underestimated.

I would like to think Antrim Gaels from all clubs will be supporting Cargin in Ulster regardless of the opposition, but agree the opportunity to take our nearest neighbours down a peg or two makes it that wee bit easier to get behind the Toome men.

You'd think that but as I said here last year there was a lad from Cargin going bananas in Corrigan when the Lurgan side scored the goal.. And the same folk on here were saying that was normal, I don't see it as being any different now, whereas us Belfast ones were cheering on Cargin and Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on November 18, 2022, 03:14:02 PM
Who got the aldegrove job? creggan guy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on November 18, 2022, 04:22:45 PM
Adrian Dougan???
Quote from: Rodger Mona on November 18, 2022, 03:14:02 PM
Who got the aldegrove job? creggan guy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 19, 2022, 11:48:34 AM
In the red and black today.....off to support the Clooney boys.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2022, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 19, 2022, 11:48:34 AM
In the red and black today.....off to support the Clooney boys.....

I'm sure they are glad you turned up!!

Liatroim  lost a man early doors but never looked like losing the game

Hard luck Gaels
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2022, 12:32:20 AM
Hard luck to Clooney usually come up trumps at this level. hopefully the Cargin Glen game lives up to the local derby it's being billed as, I personally feel nothing to separate the two sides it's a 50/50 game imo and it'll come down to who gets the lucky breaks on the day but def nothing to separate the two sides from South Derry,.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 20, 2022, 10:00:46 AM
I see Donegal are scheduling an under-21 football championship.........?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2022, 12:36:04 PM
Boylesports see it vastly different Lar.

1/12 Glen 14/1 Cargin 7/1

Go fill your boots at Cargin plus 7 points of a start at evens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 20, 2022, 12:48:12 PM
Did see the Boylesport rep peeping over the hedge on Friday evening watching our lads training....

Was the same idiot who had Cargin at 1/4 to beat Aghagallon and 1/3 PG1 to beat the St Mary's men....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 20, 2022, 01:39:22 PM
Pp odds

Glen 1/12
Draw 16/1
Cargin 7/1

Cargin +7 10/11 looks a safe bet to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 20, 2022, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 20, 2022, 01:39:22 PM
Pp odds

Glen 1/12
Draw 16/1
Cargin 7/1

Cargin +7 10/11 looks a safe bet to me.
[/quote

Have been watching our lads training last week and indeed they look ready for action....
Remember when Cargin met up with Cross at Clones in 1999 and despite going as 8/1 underdogs the Armagh men needed a late, late Jim Mc Conville goal to enable them to move onwards and  claim the Aĺl  Ireland club title..

Messer Boyle and Power despite their expertise in Gaelic games way well be found wanting...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 20, 2022, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 20, 2022, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 20, 2022, 01:39:22 PM
Pp odds

Glen 1/12
Draw 16/1
Cargin 7/1

Cargin +7 10/11 looks a safe bet to me.
[/quote

The odds are wild - I think it will be a close game. Be interesting to see how Glen react to being such overwhelming favorites. Everyone under the sun been speaking about Kilcoo -v-Glen final

Have been watching our lads training last week and indeed they look ready for action....
Remember when Cargin met up with Cross at Clones in 1999 and despite going as 8/1 underdogs the Armagh men needed a late, late Jim Mc Conville goal to enable them to move onwards and  claim the Aĺl  Ireland club title..

Messer Boyle and Power despite their expertise in Gaelic games way well be found wanting...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 20, 2022, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 20, 2022, 09:51:56 PM
Do not see many bookies on a bike but sometimes there are opportunities..

Backed Aghagallon to win Antrim to win championship at semi final stage at 10/1 and laid it off at the final stage at 5/1...5 points no risk profit.....

Bad backed Cargin to win earlier 5/2...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 21, 2022, 09:20:33 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 18, 2022, 04:22:45 PM
Adrian Dougan???
Quote from: Rodger Mona on November 18, 2022, 03:14:02 PM
Who got the aldegrove job? creggan guy?

Yeah that's what I heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2022, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.

So logic would dictate Slaughtneil will start as strong favourites over Dunloy...?
Glen are a good side but their experience on the Ulster trail and indeed in club championship is not anything to shout about..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 10:17:48 AM
I agree Glen are potentially a bit overrated too considering what they have done. If they were to go on I'd hope they win it. The odds do seem a bit much but how often are bookies wrong too. If Cargin beat Glen it's a major upset - there's no denying that.

Slaughtneil and the hurling is a different kettle of fish entirely and they will be favourites and rightly so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 11:40:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 21, 2022, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.

So logic would dictate Slaughtneil will start as strong favourites over Dunloy...?
Glen are a good side but their experience on the Ulster trail and indeed in club championship is not anything to shout about..

Slaughtneill are favourites, would you have Dunloy favourites?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2022, 11:52:39 AM
SN would be obvious favourites in the hurling.

I'm not seeing where the confidence around Cargin is coming from. Glen just came out on top in one of the best games of club football in recent times. I think the spread betting could be slightly generous there at 7 but I suppose will depend on conditions on the day as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 11:59:50 AM
Yeah I mean Glen should be strong favourites but they just feel maybe a wee bit too strong. It's no slight on anyone.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 21, 2022, 12:55:44 PM
Cargin adopting the Michael Jordan Last Dance mentality.  It works for them. Why change a winning formula? What works for some doesn't work for others.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2022, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 21, 2022, 12:55:44 PM
Cargin adopting the Michael Jordan Last Dance mentality.  It works for them. Why change a winning formula? What works for some doesn't work for others.

Need such explained......you figure Cargin are approaching the end.......as in the Bulls defeat...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 21, 2022, 01:09:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 21, 2022, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 21, 2022, 12:55:44 PM
Cargin adopting the Michael Jordan Last Dance mentality.  It works for them. Why change a winning formula? What works for some doesn't work for others.

Need such explained......you figure Cargin are approaching the end.......as in the Bulls defeat...?

You would need to watch the show to explain Michael Jordan's mentality CB.  If Cargin can carefully manage their squad for the next 2 seasons I fully expect them to be challenging for many more years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 01:38:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 21, 2022, 12:55:44 PM
Cargin adopting the Michael Jordan Last Dance mentality.  It works for them. Why change a winning formula? What works for some doesn't work for others.

I was more thinking Jose Mourinho.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 21, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.
How do you work that out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 21, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.
How do you work that out?

Derry teams have an outstanding record in this competition since it started
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 21, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.
How do you work that out?

Derry club football has a decent track record in the competition and Antrim teams do not barring a half decent St Galls period. Derry county team is also at a much higher standard so you'd expect club to be at a higher standard too.

Glen were beat AET by the ai winners last year so it wasn't like they did too shabbily when they were in it too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 21, 2022, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 21, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
Aye, those pesky bookies are going out of business....

Not too many teams win by 7!

Backed the draw in the last game, as did a few round me at Corrigan

Glen are favourites and rightly so but anything can happen, and if they win by two points and go on to win an All Ireland it's like winning an All Ireland  ;D

It's not personal. A derry team should be strong favourite over an antrim team all day long. That's just how it goes.

I do think Glen are possibly a bit over rated mind you. I was a bit disappointed with them against Errigal. However that said they should still be strong favourites for this game. The odds maybe a wee bit long mind you.
How do you work that out?

Derry club football has a decent track record in the competition and Antrim teams do not barring a half decent St Galls period. Derry county team is also at a much higher standard so you'd expect club to be at a higher standard too.

Glen were beat AET by the ai winners last year so it wasn't like they did too shabbily when they were in it too.
Fair enough logic but doesn't necessarily mean it's always the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2022, 03:33:44 PM
No and for example in the hurling it's not as slaughtneil have proved otherwise with their form vs antrim teams compared to where derry county team are vs our county team. In the football though there hasn't happened very much with antrim teams - cargin or otherwise.

We all hope they buck the trend but glen rightly are strong favourites. Maybe a bit too strong mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 21, 2022, 03:49:42 PM
We can talk bookies odds all day long but we all know short favourites can be turned over. The Antrim champs have earned an hour on Sunday to show whether those odds were right or wrong. Between the lines these things are sorted.

It's not an easy task...Glen probably in top three or four clubs in the country. Its a massive ask for Cargin, but you never know...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 21, 2022, 09:29:01 PM
any word on who the ref is for cargin-v-glen game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 21, 2022, 09:29:01 PM
any word on who the ref is for cargin-v-glen game

Noel Mooney, Cavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 21, 2022, 10:31:01 PM
So Glenties won the Donegal under-21 A Donegal championship tonight....
Was the change to under age structure not for them...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 21, 2022, 10:35:52 PM
What is actually happening next year. Is it u17 or u18 next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 21, 2022, 11:10:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2022, 10:35:52 PM
What is actually happening next year. Is it u17 or u18 next year?
U15 & u17 will go ahead in 2023.
At Congress in  feb, it is expected to vote on return to u18.
Counties will have option to run additonal year groups.
U 17 or U 18s  will not be permitted to play adult football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 22, 2022, 07:00:51 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 21, 2022, 11:10:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 21, 2022, 10:35:52 PM
What is actually happening next year. Is it u17 or u18 next year?
U15 & u17 will go ahead in 2023.
At Congress in  feb, it is expected to vote on return to u18.
Counties will have option to run additonal year groups.
U 17 or U 18s  will not be permitted to play adult football.

So starting from next March or whatever it'll be u17 but with the option of having another u18 league?? Surely that'll not work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

You sure about that in Antrim?

I thought they still went with the Calendar year, ie. U10, U9 etc etc?

We in Down do the school year thing, U9.5, U10.5 etc etc, nothing to do with it being competitive or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 22, 2022, 10:02:15 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

You sure about that in Antrim?

I thought they still went with the Calendar year, ie. U10, U9 etc etc?

We in Down do the school year thing, U9.5, U10.5 etc etc, nothing to do with it being competitive or not.

Anything below that goes by their school classes, p6/7 etc

Calendar year is soccer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

You sure about that in Antrim?

I thought they still went with the Calendar year, ie. U10, U9 etc etc?

We in Down do the school year thing, U9.5, U10.5 etc etc, nothing to do with it being competitive or not.

Go Games is non competitive so you can't have a competitive tournament that ties in with the official age gradings.

So they have to adjust it by 0.5 to get around it.

At least that was the case for the tournaments I was at.

I think boys adjusted to the rounded age as they were by school year and girls to the 0.5 age as they are still u10 and u12.

Teams from Derry and Dowb would have been the right age for them anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

That's news to me, but we certainly have age groups playing tournaments with under 8's I've seen them on our social media pages and at the top it says under 8's ... I know our May day tournament is p5 and covers kids in that year group rather the typical GAA calendar.. But Ive defo seen tournaments with those other groups I've mentioned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2022, 11:50:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

That's news to me, but we certainly have age groups playing tournaments with under 8's I've seen them on our social media pages and at the top it says under 8's ... I know our May day tournament is p5 and covers kids in that year group rather the typical GAA calendar.. But Ive defo seen tournaments with those other groups I've mentioned

We've been invited to a few Belfast tournaments over the summer and they normally U10 or so for I always get asked about the .5's who'd miss out..

Is the Pat Sheehan not U10? Davitts one was the same?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on November 22, 2022, 11:54:11 AM
Pat Sheehan was U10 now U11. May Day tournament the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 22, 2022, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

That's news to me, but we certainly have age groups playing tournaments with under 8's I've seen them on our social media pages and at the top it says under 8's ... I know our May day tournament is p5 and covers kids in that year group rather the typical GAA calendar.. But Ive defo seen tournaments with those other groups I've mentioned
It looks to me that in the SW the age groups were u7.5, u9.5, U11.5 and so on. In Belfast they work at U8 and 10 level. Two different parts of the county working in different ages. Which ones better suited who knows but surely a joined up approach would be wiser.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 22, 2022, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

That's news to me, but we certainly have age groups playing tournaments with under 8's I've seen them on our social media pages and at the top it says under 8's ... I know our May day tournament is p5 and covers kids in that year group rather the typical GAA calendar.. But Ive defo seen tournaments with those other groups I've mentioned
It looks to me that in the SW the age groups were u7.5, u9.5, U11.5 and so on. In Belfast they work at U8 and 10 level. Two different parts of the county working in different ages. Which ones better suited who knows but surely a joined up approach would be wiser.

Now you say that I think you are right.

There is a difference between Belfast and SW.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2022, 11:50:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 10:46:32 PM
Any county can run a of any age competition surely?

You can have under 6 tournaments under 8's and so on

Any "tournaments" that are u12 and below technically have to be called by the 0.5 age as they aren't allowed to be competitive under that age group.

I was at a few this year, including a great LGFA one at St Galls, and I asked the question as to why they were all stated as U9.5, U10.5 etc and that was the reason given.

Otherwise the organisers would get in bother from the county.

That's news to me, but we certainly have age groups playing tournaments with under 8's I've seen them on our social media pages and at the top it says under 8's ... I know our May day tournament is p5 and covers kids in that year group rather the typical GAA calendar.. But Ive defo seen tournaments with those other groups I've mentioned

We've been invited to a few Belfast tournaments over the summer and they normally U10 or so for I always get asked about the .5's who'd miss out..

Is the Pat Sheehan not U10? Davitts one was the same?

You lot always brought older kids down anyways lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Upandover on November 22, 2022, 01:22:29 PM
Only tournament we went to this year with the .5 rule in place was carryduff, every other tournament was either u8 or u9, ones hosted by johnnies, lamh dearg, sarsfields etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 22, 2022, 01:24:23 PM
It should always be done that the children in the one school year can all play together.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on November 22, 2022, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 22, 2022, 01:24:23 PM
It should always be done that the children in the one school year can all play together.

Hitting the like button here Jim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 22, 2022, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 22, 2022, 01:24:23 PM
It should always be done that the children in the one school year can all play together.

Totally agree.

Should be 0.5 age groupings that for all school children.....although not sure where to stop it as would it be u18.5 for minor?

Could work as long as you allow 18 and over to play senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 02:10:30 PM
If you are born in July can you be in the same year as a kid born the following June?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 22, 2022, 02:18:47 PM
A June birthday shouldn't be the year "above" so to speak. There shouldn't be a scenario currently where a school kid is a year older than his peers...

However I was first year at queens so was Cormac McAnallen and he was playing minor whenever there were upper sixths too old to play minor so there are exceptions to every rule...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 22, 2022, 02:18:47 PM
A June birthday shouldn't be the year "above" so to speak. There shouldn't be a scenario currently where a school kid is a year older than his peers...

However I was first year at queens so was Cormac McAnallen and he was playing minor whenever there were upper sixths too old to play minor so there are exceptions to every rule...

My wife is August and her friend is June, they were in the same year in school, why I'm asking, and I know it was a few years ago (and then some) but if it still applies then you'll have a few kids that physically will be a year 'bigger'

I'm not sure if that was the reason for the dates falling in January that suited some but not others
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 22, 2022, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 02:10:30 PM
If you are born in July can you be in the same year as a kid born the following June?

School enrolment year is 2nd July to 1st of July the following year in North
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 22, 2022, 03:44:34 PM
That's not strictly the case any more, parents now have a choice to hold a kid back a year if they judge that to suit their child better. Pretty sure that option is in place now
https://www.education-ni.gov.uk/news/school-age-bill-passes-final-stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 22, 2022, 03:53:23 PM
Move the school year to calendar years and that's it sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on November 22, 2022, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 22, 2022, 02:18:47 PM
A June birthday shouldn't be the year "above" so to speak. There shouldn't be a scenario currently where a school kid is a year older than his peers...

However I was first year at queens so was Cormac McAnallen and he was playing minor whenever there were upper sixths too old to play minor so there are exceptions to every rule...

My wife is August and her friend is June, they were in the same year in school, why I'm asking, and I know it was a few years ago (and then some) but if it still applies then you'll have a few kids that physically will be a year 'bigger'

I'm not sure if that was the reason for the dates falling in January that suited some but not others

Sure if it's a calendar year cut off you can have a 1st January kid playing a 31st December kid so same issue. Its swings and roundabouts really, works itself out in the end. Playing with school age is a better solution I think as it is easier to tie in to school competitions.

The difficulty is what happens across county borders and in the 26, as their school age is slightly different. County team age grades also a factor. Say you have u16.5 and u18.5 but county is u17, or even u18, there are lads across 2 club age brackets affected and games being put off or finding an acceptable training schedule while factoring in two nights of club football becomes a headache. The provincial underage comps could be tricky too if there are counties operating different grades.

I've seen counties that do primary school age groups at go games level and then change to year born for competitive ages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 06:33:03 PM
Yeah it's always been winners and losers the reality is though this recent attempt at 'fixing' the grades has been (imo) not great the gap between under 17 and under 20 or senior for some clubs is to long


At what age can a lad play senior soccer? Think I seen a lad was 15.5 playing senior recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 22, 2022, 07:05:33 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 22, 2022, 03:44:34 PM
That's not strictly the case any more, parents now have a choice to hold a kid back a year if they judge that to suit their child better. Pretty sure that option is in place now
https://www.education-ni.gov.uk/news/school-age-bill-passes-final-stage

The child would still be over age for the GAA year group!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 23, 2022, 07:39:13 AM
The Saffron Voice lads have invited the whole show to Country Bumpkin's house if Cargin win this weekend. Fair played to you CB.
Would MR2 be allowed in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 08:40:36 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 23, 2022, 07:39:13 AM
The Saffron Voice lads have invited the whole show to Country Bumpkin's house if Cargin win this weekend. Fair played to you CB.
Would MR2 be allowed in?

I suppose a different bedroom would be a nice change, if I get an invite I'll come along, CB has already lined up a great welcome for me anyways in Cargin for my next visit so looking forward to that also ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 23, 2022, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 08:40:36 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 23, 2022, 07:39:13 AM
The Saffron Voice lads have invited the whole show to Country Bumpkin's house if Cargin win this weekend. Fair played to you CB.
Would MR2 be allowed in?

I suppose a different bedroom would be a nice change, if I get an invite I'll come along, CB has already lined up a great welcome for me anyways in Cargin for my next visit so looking forward to that also ;D

As the lads from SV say, all hands are welcome here to celebrate the win over the Glensmen.
But after consultation with the 'bean an ti' and as the lads say It will only be a drap o' tae, in the hand.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 23, 2022, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 22, 2022, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 02:10:30 PM
If you are born in July can you be in the same year as a kid born the following June?

School enrolment year is 2nd July to 1st of July the following year in North

Is this correct for school enrolment?

It's just that I've a query from a parent whose kid is born on the 1st of July that I need to delve into.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on November 23, 2022, 01:27:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 23, 2022, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: delgany on November 22, 2022, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 02:10:30 PM
If you are born in July can you be in the same year as a kid born the following June?

School enrolment year is 2nd July to 1st of July the following year in North

Is this correct for school enrolment?

It's just that I've a query from a parent whose kid is born on the 1st of July that I need to delve into.

That is 100% , children born between 2nd July 2017 - 1st July 2018 will start P1 in Sept, albeit for those who happened to defer for a year, but very few in a position to do that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: keep her low this half on November 26, 2022, 07:44:51 PM
Best of luck to Cargin tomorrow
Tough opposition but what else would you get in the Ulster championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 26, 2022, 09:09:21 PM
Talking to a few Cargin men who are optimistic about tomorrow and genuinely feel they have the manpower to go toe to toe with Glen. Big hours football to show Antrim football in a good light to a national audience. Putting parochial loyalties aside, good luck to Cargin tomorrow. They are representing us all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 26, 2022, 10:57:41 PM
It looks like a tough assignment.  Glen want another cut at Kilcoo.  They'll go into tomorrow's game to get the job done. Last year will stand to them and will probably make the difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 12:05:18 PM
Good luck Cargin today, hopefully still in the mix at the business end of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
Definitely well in the game at HT.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 27, 2022, 02:55:20 PM
The one that got away. Wrong shot selection on a few occasions.

Penalty put a gloss on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2022, 03:16:32 PM
Gave it everything but never got the feeling they had the threat to win the game at any stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......

What happened to the original ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......

What happened to the original ref?

Original ref was on sideline duty...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on November 27, 2022, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......

Why didn't you back them outright without the handicap ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 27, 2022, 05:40:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......

What happened to the original ref?

Apparently he was caught on a message board and they banned him from the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 05:45:47 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 27, 2022, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......

Why didn't you back them outright without the handicap ?

Jeez, and you are a 'kidder' well said.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 05:58:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 27, 2022, 05:40:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 27, 2022, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
Massive effort and huge shift put in, pitch seemed heavy. Slowed things down a bit

Cargin unlucky on some shot selections some frees going against them also

Wasn't pretty but tense

Was pretty tense

Although beaten Cargin can stand tall as some said a few chances (Poor shot selections) were missed our lads came close and raised the Saffron profile.

Those who took the ridiculous 1/12 odds offered would need to have brought a change of underwear to Healey Pk.

Took the 1/1 with a seven point start which was a  insult.

Despite the profile Glen are no big deal and our boys will realise they missed a great opportunity.....and saying naught about the stand in ref.......

What happened to the original ref?

Apparently he was caught on a message board and they banned him from the game.

Making big noise?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 06:35:54 PM
I thought the ref was poor enough, a lot of soft frees.

Would have been a better game in Paul Faloon was ref.

Tough to take for cargin matched glen in most areas, conor glass is real quality two lovely scores
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

If the win the All Ireland would you be saying Cargin were unlucky against the All Ireland winners ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 27, 2022, 07:45:58 PM
Gallant effort, Cargin supporters dared to dream at half time and players left it all on the pitch. They will have a few well deserved pints tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 08:10:33 PM
In fairness Glass was caught in the head and no free given, while Cargin gained possession from it.

Didn't feel it was difficult game to ref, possibly 2/3 soft frees which didn't amount to much
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 28, 2022, 09:55:25 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.
Its fine margins at this high level and when you come up against one of the best teams in Ireland they become finer. Nothing but pride for Cargin both yesterday and two weeks ago, they flew the flag for Antrim football superbly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 28, 2022, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

If the win the All Ireland would you be saying Cargin were unlucky against the All Ireland winners ;)

Cargin have already beaten All Ireland and Ulster winners several times...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 28, 2022, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

If the win the All Ireland would you be saying Cargin were unlucky against the All Ireland winners ;)

Cargin have already beaten All Ireland and Ulster winners several times...

Yeah, funny I was talking to someone the other week and he was saying that you felt that Cargin were a better team.. Perceptions can be funny sometimes  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 28, 2022, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 28, 2022, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

If the win the All Ireland would you be saying Cargin were unlucky against the All Ireland winners ;)

Cargin have already beaten All Ireland and Ulster winners several times...

Yeah, funny I was talking to someone the other week and he was saying that you felt that Cargin were a better team.. Perceptions can be funny sometimes  ;D

Better than...?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Obviously an ardent supporter of the green in camouflage....and especially Mick Mc Cann......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 08:59:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Obviously an ardent supporter of the green in camouflage....and especially Mick Mc Cann......

In your words CB, where did Cargin lose it? As the game was a 50/50
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 29, 2022, 09:47:41 AM
fine margins indeed.  Cargin will have much chagrin at 3 of the soft frees given to Glen in the critical last 5 minutes period and the debateable points that were given. Glen would be rueing the missed goal opportunities either side of half time.  Glen managed the majority of injury time very well it has to be said.    As to the rights or wrongs of frees, it shows how a different opinion of the game by a referee can alter things.  Cargin wanted it to be a physical battle such as the referee allowed against Glenties, whereas Mr Eanetta was decidedly against that type of football.   The laws of the game do not distinguish either as right or wrong so it is up to both teams to adjust.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 08:59:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Obviously an ardent supporter of the green in camouflage....and especially Mick Mc Cann......

In your words CB, where did Cargin lose it? As the game was a 50/50

Cargin did lose a game bit they have gained a lot in experience particularly for their extended panel and all those youngsters learning the trade.
Antrim champs again and in the top four in Ulstet and the focus will obviously be in retracing those steps taken in 2022.

Represented our county well and cannot be more grateful or proud of those young lads who carried the green torch with such poise on our behalf...

As for the ref on Sunday am surprised how few on the board noticed his poor officialdom when most of the experienced scribes in attendance expressed negative opinion on that official, including B Crossan, Kenny Archer, and Belllaghy's own Cahir O' Kane..
Surprising indeed, when all those 'Antrim' people on the board, (all obviously unbiased) failed to take note....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 08:59:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Obviously an ardent supporter of the green in camouflage....and especially Mick Mc Cann......

In your words CB, where did Cargin lose it? As the game was a 50/50

Cargin did lose a game bit they have gained a lot in experience particularly for their extended panel and all those youngsters learning the trade.
Antrim champs again and in the top four in Ulstet and the focus will obviously be in retracing those steps taken in 2022.

Represented our county well and cannot be more grateful or proud of those young lads who carried the green torch with such poise on our behalf...

As for the ref on Sunday am surprised how few on the board noticed his poor officialdom when most of the experienced scribes in attendance expressed negative opinion on that official, including B Crossan, Kenny Archer, and Belllaghy's own Cahir O' Kane..
Surprising indeed, when all those 'Antrim' people on the board, (all obviously unbiased) failed to take note....

Dont think anyone is claiming the ref was good, he certainly wasn't. Think the wider point is that Cargin and actually some of their most experienced heads, didnt adjust to suit.
Frees being moved into scoring range for back chat, simple fouls they knew would be pulled up conceded in bad areas for them when there was support tacklers around.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 10:42:17 AM
So even Tyrone ref's have it in for Cargin? Christ

There was poor calls on both sides, there was off the ball stuff that the ref didn't pull either I felt. So it evened itself out

I asked the question where could Cargin have done better to win the game? Glen were no big shakes on watching the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 29, 2022, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 10:42:17 AM
So even Tyrone ref's have it in for Cargin? Christ

There was poor calls on both sides, there was off the ball stuff that the ref didn't pull either I felt. So it evened itself out

I asked the question where could Cargin have done better to win the game? Glen were no big shakes on watching the game
If this board is anyway way reflective of real life (which is doubtful lol) we are in a great place, we're now getting criticised for not beating Glen (who are now no big shakes). This was not the mood music on here last week. Great to be at that high level and hopefully get back again next year to try and push on again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 11:01:19 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 29, 2022, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 10:42:17 AM
So even Tyrone ref's have it in for Cargin? Christ

There was poor calls on both sides, there was off the ball stuff that the ref didn't pull either I felt. So it evened itself out

I asked the question where could Cargin have done better to win the game? Glen were no big shakes on watching the game
If this board is anyway way reflective of real life (which is doubtful lol) we are in a great place, we're now getting criticised for not beating Glen (who are now no big shakes). This was not the mood music on here last week. Great to be at that high level and hopefully get back again next year to try and push on again.

I was not in the camp that Cargin were going to be beat, I didn't have that on any of my posts, beating the Donegal champions was the first marker, I had posted that if Cargin are still within a score at the business end of the game they have a chance, I said that Glen were no big shakes Sunday, they didn't or weren't allowed to play good football, that's not to say they ain't a better team.

All I've asked was (on reflection) where did Cargin lose the game?

They have been the Antrim standard bearer for a long time, they deserve their accolades from the supporters and neutrals, I don't know many that didn't want them to win on Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 29, 2022, 11:08:39 AM
Assume Ciaran Bradley was carrying a knock? Was a big miss not to start the game. Made an instant impact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 08:59:27 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Obviously an ardent supporter of the green in camouflage....and especially Mick Mc Cann......

In your words CB, where did Cargin lose it? As the game was a 50/50

Cargin did lose a game bit they have gained a lot in experience particularly for their extended panel and all those youngsters learning the trade.
Antrim champs again and in the top four in Ulstet and the focus will obviously be in retracing those steps taken in 2022.

Represented our county well and cannot be more grateful or proud of those young lads who carried the green torch with such poise on our behalf...

As for the ref on Sunday am surprised how few on the board noticed his poor officialdom when most of the experienced scribes in attendance expressed negative opinion on that official, including B Crossan, Kenny Archer, and Belllaghy's own Cahir O' Kane..
Surprising indeed, when all those 'Antrim' people on the board, (all obviously unbiased) failed to take note....

CB you should sleep with a tin foil hat on and keep all those negative thoughts out  ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
How could I be negative....Cargin county champs again and 4th rated team in Ulster.
No retirements announced and a strong panel to start again 2023 with a lot of young guns seeking senior berths gonna be hard to dislodge...

Well as for negativity and although we were representing Antrim on Sunday a well wisher from a prominent club posted on social media Sunday evening..
.

'Green Machine crashes, outside Omagh'

Help required....

Funny.......those who think so hands up


.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 01:17:14 PM
I'm baffled at the ranked 4th in Ulster, making the semi final doesnt add up to this.
Probably a bit tongue n cheek here CB but its not the school yard rules  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Will it ever end on November 29, 2022, 01:43:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
How could I be negative....Cargin county champs again and 4th rated team in Ulster.
No retirements announced and a strong panel to start again 2023 with a lot of young guns seeking senior berths gonna be hard to dislodge...

Well as for negativity and although we were representing Antrim on Sunday a well wisher from a prominent club posted on social media Sunday evening..
.

'Green Machine crashes, outside Omagh'

Help required....

Funny.......those who think so hands up


.

If you could just get the right referee surely an Ulster title will be a formality next year...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:11:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
How could I be negative....Cargin county champs again and 4th rated team in Ulster.
No retirements announced and a strong panel to start again 2023 with a lot of young guns seeking senior berths gonna be hard to dislodge...

Well as for negativity and although we were representing Antrim on Sunday a well wisher from a prominent club posted on social media Sunday evening..
.

'Green Machine crashes, outside Omagh'

Help required....

Funny.......those who think so hands up


.

Definitely a bit of Jose Mourinho in you CB  ;D

Didn't read much negativity here tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 29, 2022, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
How could I be negative....Cargin county champs again and 4th rated team in Ulster.
No retirements announced and a strong panel to start again 2023 with a lot of young guns seeking senior berths gonna be hard to dislodge...

Well as for negativity and although we were representing Antrim on Sunday a well wisher from a prominent club posted on social media Sunday evening..
.

'Green Machine crashes, outside Omagh'

Help required....

Funny.......those who think so hands up


.

I see Mr Breathe has backed down from that post......sometimes people open their mouths much quicker than their brain should allow them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:38:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

Can rate your own club ITG....don't be shy be proud not akin to a camouflaged sniper taking lot shots in anonymity.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:42:17 PM
Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 03:43:00 PM
 ;D

I am currently not associated with any club and I don't really take shots at any club CB.

I just find your willingness to turn any innocuous comment of any description into an accusation of Cargin bashing as ridiculous. That's not a reflection on your club just you so my club has no bearing on anything. It's real siege mentality and basically kills any form of discussion here as it gets ridiculous just like your last few days postings.


[Edit] BTW your last post shows that again. Oh you are showing some criticism let me tell you how much better my club are than yours. Laughable.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2022, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 03:43:00 PM
;D

I am currently not associated with any club and I don't really take shots at any club CB.

I just find your willingness to turn any innocuous comment of any description into an accusation of Cargin bashing as ridiculous. That's not a reflection on your club just you so my club has no bearing on anything. It's real siege mentality and basically kills any form of discussion here as it gets ridiculous just like your last few days postings.


[Edit] BTW your last post shows that again. Oh you are showing some criticism let me tell you how much better my club are than yours. Laughable.
Spot on. They're a paranoid and insecure bunch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:42:17 PM
Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 29, 2022, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Hate being pedantic but Emmett Bradley missed this free kick following a harsh decision on Kevin O'Boyle.  We see what we want to see i suppose. 

I thought Cargin managed the game really well, defused a lot of Glen's weapons and counterattacked well. Everyone said stay clear of Glen's midfield and Cargin did the opposite and bravely went toe to toe in there. Shooting conditions were difficult for both sides.  What Glen did do well was restrict the number of easy opportunities for Cargin to shoot from, always forced them to shoot from distance.  I suspect Glen will have learned a lot about themselves from Sunday. Certainly more than Kilcoo learned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:59:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 03:43:00 PM
;D

I am currently not associated with any club and I don't really take shots at any club CB.

I just find your willingness to turn any innocuous comment of any description into an accusation of Cargin bashing as ridiculous. That's not a reflection on your club just you so my club has no bearing on anything. It's real siege mentality and basically kills any form of discussion here as it gets ridiculous just like your last few days postings.


[Edit] BTW your last post shows that again. Oh you are showing some criticism let me tell you how much better my club are than yours. Laughable.

Figured as much....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 28, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 27, 2022, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
Apparently P F endured hamstring problems mid-week and indeed he would not have been fooled by the results of 'sniper at work' today.
Soft frees indeed and one led to that penalty.

But if some suggest Glen are the real deal and one of the top sides in the country I still take a lot to be persuaded....

I thought the glen no 10 think it is Ethan Doherty went to ground very easily John carron I think got done for a soft free on him- mick McCann also another ref defo would have let a lot more go

McCann's was a definite free - he put his hand into opponent's face - it's football, not rugby.  Cargin decision making in last 15 minutes cost them, nothing to do with the referee.  Corner back took on a very difficult shot and missed, McCann free in middle of the park, tried to find Tomas who was very tightly marked, Glen score came from that.  Fine margins but ultimately Glen didn't panic when it came down to the wire, Cargin did.

Hate being pedantic but Emmett Bradley missed this free kick following a harsh decision on Kevin O'Boyle.  We see what we want to see i suppose. 

I thought Cargin managed the game really well, defused a lot of Glen's weapons and counterattacked well. Everyone said stay clear of Glen's midfield and Cargin did the opposite and bravely went toe to toe in there. Shooting conditions were difficult for both sides.  What Glen did do well was restrict the number of easy opportunities for Cargin to shoot from, always forced them to shoot from distance.  I suspect Glen will have learned a lot about themselves from Sunday. Certainly more than Kilcoo learned.

The ref missed Glass being hit by a shoulder on side of face (had he seen it someone was going for an early bath) he stopped play and Cargin had possession, so no foul given, there were things like this throughout the game, some he got some he didn't.. The rookie mistake is talking back and having the ball moved forward though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:42:17 PM
Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter :D

Did not ask you but am well aware of the status of both the Johnnies and Rossa.
But as to your own field of expertise before that whistler arrived on the Cargin scene on Sunday who was in harge when Cargin lost their only championship game (knock out)
over the last eight years...

Think hard......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 29, 2022, 04:19:08 PM
MR2 in that case every single free kick in that game should have been moved forward for both sides.  Basic short questioning of a decision the player doesn't comprehend in the middle of football match is not abuse.   It is the lack of consistency whether that be in action for talking back, black cards, yellow cards, red cards, shoulder challenges or simply the common tackle that grates both the players and supporters.   Consistency in fitness levels as well.   If you're telling me you have similar fitness levels as Sundays referee then there must be a large margin for error.

On the players and supporters side, verbal or physical abuse and vitriol is simply not acceptable and should not be tolerated in any form. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:42:17 PM
Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter :D

Did not ask you but am well aware of the status of both the Johnnies and Rossa.
But as to your own field of expertise before that whistler arrived on the Cargin scene on Sunday who was in harge when Cargin lost their only championship game (knock out)
over the last eight years...

Think hard......

I'm thinking if you don't take your opportunities you lose out, if the other team scores more than the opposition they win, if you miss 21 yard frees it won't help..

So every time Cargin lose its the ref that's lost it? Who was the whistler when they lost to Derrygonnelly from Fermanagh? id that the game you are talking about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?
I am but I'm on the yellow and white bus.. It was those big boys on the blue and white bus that were talking about it Just thought I would give you the heads up in case you found it on social media and got upset. Better to be prepared
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 04:19:08 PM
MR2 in that case every single free kick in that game should have been moved forward for both sides.  Basic short questioning of a decision the player doesn't comprehend in the middle of football match is not abuse.   It is the lack of consistency whether that be in action for talking back, black cards, yellow cards, red cards, shoulder challenges or simply the common tackle that grates both the players and supporters.   Consistency in fitness levels as well.   If you're telling me you have similar fitness levels as Sundays referee then there must be a large margin for error.

On the players and supporters side, verbal or physical abuse and vitriol is simply not acceptable and should not be tolerated in any form.

I know plenty or marathon runners who are big men, nice steady pace no issues, these lads at this level believe it or not have to pass a fitness test, otherwise they don't get the game, so if he's past the test what are you looking?

My fitness isn't up for debate, in fact the club referee's beep test is at a lesser level to intercounty refs, so he'd have to pass a higher level, but I its funny how supporters that are so far away from the pitch think they can see closer than the ref who'll generally be with 20 yards of play.

As for basic short questioning the ref, there is questioning them and there is being a dick about it... I can name at least 6/7 lads on that Cargin team who never open their mouths when playing, and if they do question decisions its not derogatory or abusive. Why can't that be across the rest of the team and other teams BTW?

In my post I'm just saying that the ref was not the reason here, he missed things for both teams, its impossible to get everything, unfortunately the original ref was injured, it happens and this lad was the standby ref, that's how it works
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 29, 2022, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 03:42:17 PM
Same for you Nag.....be proud and I will take a stab at rating your club......bet you are above Cargin...beating them on a regular basis....??

So I'm beyond you rating me or any Johnnies men or Rossa men for that matter :D

Did not ask you but am well aware of the status of both the Johnnies and Rossa.
But as to your own field of expertise before that whistler arrived on the Cargin scene on Sunday who was in harge when Cargin lost their only championship game (knock out)
over the last eight years...

Think hard......

I'm thinking if you don't take your opportunities you lose out, if the other team scores more than the opposition they win, if you miss 21 yard frees it won't help..

So every time Cargin lose its the ref that's lost it? Who was the whistler when they lost to Derrygonnelly from Fermanagh? id that the game you are talking about?

Maybe they were exhausted from the absurd amount of injury time played in that years Antrim decider?   ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 29, 2022, 05:33:22 PM
Are there bigger whiners than Cargin men. FFS take your beating!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on November 29, 2022, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 04:19:08 PM
MR2 in that case every single free kick in that game should have been moved forward for both sides.  Basic short questioning of a decision the player doesn't comprehend in the middle of football match is not abuse.   It is the lack of consistency whether that be in action for talking back, black cards, yellow cards, red cards, shoulder challenges or simply the common tackle that grates both the players and supporters.   Consistency in fitness levels as well.   If you're telling me you have similar fitness levels as Sundays referee then there must be a large margin for error.

On the players and supporters side, verbal or physical abuse and vitriol is simply not acceptable and should not be tolerated in any form.

I know plenty or marathon runners who are big men, nice steady pace no issues, these lads at this level believe it or not have to pass a fitness test, otherwise they don't get the game, so if he's past the test what are you looking?

My fitness isn't up for debate, in fact the club referee's beep test is at a lesser level to intercounty refs, so he'd have to pass a higher level, but I its funny how supporters that are so far away from the pitch think they can see closer than the ref who'll generally be with 20 yards of play.

As for basic short questioning the ref, there is questioning them and there is being a dick about it... I can name at least 6/7 lads on that Cargin team who never open their mouths when playing, and if they do question decisions its not derogatory or abusive. Why can't that be across the rest of the team and other teams BTW?

In my post I'm just saying that the ref was not the reason here, he missed things for both teams, its impossible to get everything, unfortunately the original ref was injured, it happens and this lad was the standby ref, that's how it works

A solid response! +1

Cargin were beaten, narrowly but fairly and squarely. The game was there for them but they didn't take it. I just look at the bench they have and how few subs were used, as they fizzled out at the end.
Glen were far from good, hit a lot of wides and generally performed poorly yet Cargin couldn't get ahead and open a gap.

Fairly pathetic to blame the ref tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 29, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Simply amazing as to how Glen have suddenly transformed from All Ireland contenders to a pile of horse manure on this forum over the weekend.  ???

On the plus side everyone on this forum now believes their club are now All Ireland contenders so as MR2's favourite band Hot Chocolate once sang ''everyone's a winner baby''.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 06:19:01 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?
I am but I'm on the yellow and white bus.. It was those big boys on the blue and white bus that were talking about it Just thought I would give you the heads up in case you found it on social media and got upset. Better to be prepared

So you have mates in Glenties.....yep terrified of them .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 06:25:52 PM
Think the ABC club has gained in membership over the past week....
Best way to get the better of them is on the pitch...

Would doubt if many on this board who expected a huge defeat for Ronan Devlin's men attended their anticipated demise.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 29, 2022, 06:35:21 PM
Quote from: ck on November 29, 2022, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 04:19:08 PM
MR2 in that case every single free kick in that game should have been moved forward for both sides.  Basic short questioning of a decision the player doesn't comprehend in the middle of football match is not abuse.   It is the lack of consistency whether that be in action for talking back, black cards, yellow cards, red cards, shoulder challenges or simply the common tackle that grates both the players and supporters.   Consistency in fitness levels as well.   If you're telling me you have similar fitness levels as Sundays referee then there must be a large margin for error.

On the players and supporters side, verbal or physical abuse and vitriol is simply not acceptable and should not be tolerated in any form.

I know plenty or marathon runners who are big men, nice steady pace no issues, these lads at this level believe it or not have to pass a fitness test, otherwise they don't get the game, so if he's past the test what are you looking?

My fitness isn't up for debate, in fact the club referee's beep test is at a lesser level to intercounty refs, so he'd have to pass a higher level, but I its funny how supporters that are so far away from the pitch think they can see closer than the ref who'll generally be with 20 yards of play.

As for basic short questioning the ref, there is questioning them and there is being a dick about it... I can name at least 6/7 lads on that Cargin team who never open their mouths when playing, and if they do question decisions its not derogatory or abusive. Why can't that be across the rest of the team and other teams BTW?

In my post I'm just saying that the ref was not the reason here, he missed things for both teams, its impossible to get everything, unfortunately the original ref was injured, it happens and this lad was the standby ref, that's how it works

A solid response! +1

Cargin were beaten, narrowly but fairly and squarely. The game was there for them but they didn't take it. I just look at the bench they have and how few subs were used, as they fizzled out at the end.
Glen were far from good, hit a lot of wides and generally performed poorly yet Cargin couldn't get ahead and open a gap.

Fairly pathetic to blame the ref tbh.
Jesus this has thread has turned to chaos today, I'll only make one comment, CK You tipped Portglenone twice in August to beat Cargin in this years final, credibility zero 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 06:43:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 06:19:01 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?
I am but I'm on the yellow and white bus.. It was those big boys on the blue and white bus that were talking about it Just thought I would give you the heads up in case you found it on social media and got upset. Better to be prepared

So you have mates in Glenties.....yep terrified of them .

No idea what that is about. Don't know anyone from Glenties.

Just having a bit of fun at the back of the school bus type logic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 06:55:21 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 06:43:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 06:19:01 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
Also why 4th. Joint 3rd. Glass half full  ;D

ITG I think the glass is more than half full already  ;D ;)

Newsflash from the school bus at Ballygawley roundabout

Errigal Ciaran laying claim to joint 3rd place as Glen only beat them by 4 points. Their legal team feel they have a strong case based on back of the school bus logic.

CB had better head for the Tyrone page and put those pesky upstarts back in their box

So you are still at school.......?
I am but I'm on the yellow and white bus.. It was those big boys on the blue and white bus that were talking about it Just thought I would give you the heads up in case you found it on social media and got upset. Better to be prepared

So you have mates in Glenties.....yep terrified of them .

No idea what that is about. Don't know anyone from Glenties.

Just having a bit of fun at the back of the school bus type logic

Had a long journey to school back in the day and was never quick enough to grab a seat at the back.....
So...???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 07:09:23 PM
Jeez, all those on this board who have intensive dislike for Cargin raise your hands.....save me a lotta typing.

Can guess with positivity at a few even those who deny having a club.

In the event I do not give a fcuk.

Been in green and white for a long time and have many great memories but never was more proud of them as in this year.
Know every single one of them since they were kids and have watched them stride up the ranks..
Cargin have a wealth of talent from our under-6 squad and upwards with experience aplenty in their coaches and the future is bright.

Our seniors are taking a well earned rest at present and look forward to further progress in 2023.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Simply amazing as to how Glen have suddenly transformed from All Ireland contenders to a pile of horse manure on this forum over the weekend.  ???

On the plus side everyone on this forum now believes their club are now All Ireland contenders so as MR2's favourite band Hot Chocolate once sang ''everyone's a winner baby''.

First off, who said Glen are all Ireland contenders on this thread? Who said Cargin will get bate by 7?

I'd been bigging them up on the Ulster club thread and defending them in various posts.

Glen played badly because Cargin were able to contain them for large parts.

But this pure nonsense about the ref really needs to be pulled up. Your assessment on his fitness is bullshit.. I'd question the fitness of one young lad who looked seriously slow and leggy but stayed on the pitch for Cargin

Win with grace and lose with grace, as for the decider the clock was stopped and restarted each time these fit lads went down with injuries, would you prefer not to have added time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Simply amazing as to how Glen have suddenly transformed from All Ireland contenders to a pile of horse manure on this forum over the weekend.  ???

On the plus side everyone on this forum now believes their club are now All Ireland contenders so as MR2's favourite band Hot Chocolate once sang ''everyone's a winner baby''.

First off, who said Glen are all Ireland contenders on this thread? Who said Cargin will get bate by 7?

I'd been bigging them up on the Ulster club thread and defending them in various posts.

Glen played badly because Cargin were able to contain them for large parts.

But this pure nonsense about the ref really needs to be pulled up. Your assessment on his fitness is bullshit.. I'd question the fitness of one young lad who looked seriously slow and leggy but stayed on the pitch for Cargin

Win with grace and lose with grace, as for the decider the clock was stopped and restarted each time these fit lads went down with injuries, would you prefer not to have added time?

Think I heard someone proclaim Glen were in the top four in the country.....
Even PP and Boyle  agreed.

Heard patronising aplenty directed to Cargin but few were fooled...

The majority on this board and I am fully aware who are the exceptions looked forward to anihalation of Cargin born out of complete jealously....

FFS a big majority on here unlikely to own up to their allegiance whilst sniping away at the Toome lot.....

Jeez I have family involved in other units of our Association and more than made aware of feelings within.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 29, 2022, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 29, 2022, 05:33:22 PM
Are there bigger whiners than Cargin men. FFS take your beating!



Cargin took the beating better still if you'd ask club men of your own they were more than gracious to everyone after the game. Cargin will be back for another bite at it next year make no mistake about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 29, 2022, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Simply amazing as to how Glen have suddenly transformed from All Ireland contenders to a pile of horse manure on this forum over the weekend.  ???

On the plus side everyone on this forum now believes their club are now All Ireland contenders so as MR2's favourite band Hot Chocolate once sang ''everyone's a winner baby''.

First off, who said Glen are all Ireland contenders on this thread? Who said Cargin will get bate by 7?

I'd been bigging them up on the Ulster club thread and defending them in various posts.

Glen played badly because Cargin were able to contain them for large parts.

But this pure nonsense about the ref really needs to be pulled up. Your assessment on his fitness is bullshit.. I'd question the fitness of one young lad who looked seriously slow and leggy but stayed on the pitch for Cargin

Win with grace and lose with grace, as for the decider the clock was stopped and restarted each time these fit lads went down with injuries, would you prefer not to have added time?

The story goes that at daybreak the following morning,  when the final whistle eventually sounded and was obvious lamh dhearg were done, James Laverty was humming ''i believe in miracles....''
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Simply amazing as to how Glen have suddenly transformed from All Ireland contenders to a pile of horse manure on this forum over the weekend.  ???

On the plus side everyone on this forum now believes their club are now All Ireland contenders so as MR2's favourite band Hot Chocolate once sang ''everyone's a winner baby''.

First off, who said Glen are all Ireland contenders on this thread? Who said Cargin will get bate by 7?

I'd been bigging them up on the Ulster club thread and defending them in various posts.

Glen played badly because Cargin were able to contain them for large parts.

But this pure nonsense about the ref really needs to be pulled up. Your assessment on his fitness is bullshit.. I'd question the fitness of one young lad who looked seriously slow and leggy but stayed on the pitch for Cargin

Win with grace and lose with grace, as for the decider the clock was stopped and restarted each time these fit lads went down with injuries, would you prefer not to have added time?

The story goes that at daybreak the following morning,  when the final whistle eventually sounded and was obvious lamh dhearg were done, James Laverty was humming ''i believe in miracles....''

And you were at the game MR2..with the L D contingent again?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:26:53 PM
 :-X :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 09:33:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 29, 2022, 06:00:49 PM
Simply amazing as to how Glen have suddenly transformed from All Ireland contenders to a pile of horse manure on this forum over the weekend.  ???

On the plus side everyone on this forum now believes their club are now All Ireland contenders so as MR2's favourite band Hot Chocolate once sang ''everyone's a winner baby''.

First off, who said Glen are all Ireland contenders on this thread? Who said Cargin will get bate by 7?

I'd been bigging them up on the Ulster club thread and defending them in various posts.

Glen played badly because Cargin were able to contain them for large parts.

But this pure nonsense about the ref really needs to be pulled up. Your assessment on his fitness is bullshit.. I'd question the fitness of one young lad who looked seriously slow and leggy but stayed on the pitch for Cargin

Win with grace and lose with grace, as for the decider the clock was stopped and restarted each time these fit lads went down with injuries, would you prefer not to have added time?

The story goes that at daybreak the following morning,  when the final whistle eventually sounded and was obvious lamh dhearg were done, James Laverty was humming ''i believe in miracles....''

And you were at the game MR2..with the L D contingent again?

Christ man!! Tell the lads about the match in Creggan this year in the league ;D

What was it you said walking off the pitch to the umpire  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.

Nothing wrong with the county board.

2 great managers at senior level and alls good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.

Nothing wrong with the county board.

2 great managers at senior level and alls good.

Is the football panel in the public domain as yet PJ.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 09:57:58 PM
Surprised you haven't been down j'town with the note book
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.

Nothing wrong with the county board.

2 great managers at senior level and alls good.

Is the football panel in the public domain as yet PJ.....?

Haven't saw it as yet. Hoping for some new faces!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 11:05:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.

Nothing wrong with the county board.

2 great managers at senior level and alls good.

Is the football panel in the public domain as yet PJ.....?

Haven't saw it as yet. Hoping for some new faces!

Who would you like to see given an opportunity?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 30, 2022, 05:54:35 AM
What was the viewing like at Healy park ? Any over zealous stewards stopping lads standing at the half way line ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.

Nothing wrong with the county board.

2 great managers at senior level and alls good.

Is the football panel in the public domain as yet PJ.....?

Haven't saw it as yet. Hoping for some new faces!

No panel announced as yet......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 30, 2022, 10:51:01 AM
Who are the new contenders to get entered into the county panel and who will step up from the subs bench?

Few of the Aghagallon lads, some outliers from creggan and portglenone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 30, 2022, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: Flanker on November 29, 2022, 11:05:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 29, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 29, 2022, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 29, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Can we put the club football away for a few months and slag off the county team and county board instead.

Nothing wrong with the county board.

2 great managers at senior level and alls good.

Is the football panel in the public domain as yet PJ.....?

Haven't saw it as yet. Hoping for some new faces!

Who would you like to see given an opportunity?

There has to be some talent unearthed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 11:42:12 AM
Ethan Carey Small Creggan, C Magennis Aghagallon, Sean O Neill Cargin, Ryan Convery Portglenone. There is four defenders who could make their debut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
Dunloy and Glenravel Ballymena, while Ballymena didnt do themselves justice in the league playoff they have some talented footballers, Glenravel won the under21 couple of years ago and maybe Noamh Brid could bring one or two into the mix
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
Dunloy and Glenravel Ballymena, while Ballymena didnt do themselves justice in the league playoff they have some talented footballers, Glenravel won the under21 couple of years ago and maybe Noamh Brid could bring one or two into the mix
Name what players are ready to slot in, anyone could rhyme off a few club names.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
Dunloy and Glenravel Ballymena, while Ballymena didnt do themselves justice in the league playoff they have some talented footballers, Glenravel won the under21 couple of years ago and maybe Noamh Brid could bring one or two into the mix
Name what players are ready to slot in, anyone could rhyme off a few club names.

Like slot into the first 15 or be part of a squad that can develop through the year?

Its a big under taking moving into a senior intercounty set up, but if we turn our noses up at players from lower leagues then where will that get us?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
Dunloy and Glenravel Ballymena, while Ballymena didnt do themselves justice in the league playoff they have some talented footballers, Glenravel won the under21 couple of years ago and maybe Noamh Brid could bring one or two into the mix
Name what players are ready to slot in, anyone could rhyme off a few club names.

Like slot into the first 15 or be part of a squad that can develop through the year?

Its a big under taking moving into a senior intercounty set up, but if we turn our noses up at players from lower leagues then where will that get us?
Who turned their nose up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 12:55:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 12:22:35 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 30, 2022, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 11:42:39 AM
Dunloy and Glenravel Ballymena, while Ballymena didnt do themselves justice in the league playoff they have some talented footballers, Glenravel won the under21 couple of years ago and maybe Noamh Brid could bring one or two into the mix
Name what players are ready to slot in, anyone could rhyme off a few club names.

Like slot into the first 15 or be part of a squad that can develop through the year?

Its a big under taking moving into a senior intercounty set up, but if we turn our noses up at players from lower leagues then where will that get us?
Who turned their nose up

People have on here mentioned about lower league players and some posters have said why look at these players....

if I can be bothered to look back i could find them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
The weekly question:
What is happening with the age grades next year? Is it stay u17 for the next 2 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 30, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
From what I can see this incoming year counties have the choice to revert back to u18 for minor.

The ages grades below stay at u13 u15.

The following year the recommendation looks like going back to the original age grades of u12 u14 u16 and u18.

U18 players will only be able to play senior after their schools season has finished from my understanding.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 30, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
From what I can see this incoming year counties have the choice to revert back to u18 for minor.

The ages grades below stay at u13 u15.

The following year the recommendation looks like going back to the original age grades of u12 u14 u16 and u18.

U18 players will only be able to play senior after their schools season has finished from my understanding.

Asked why Donegal had an under-21 championship this year was informed, on this board, such was at the discretion of their county.
So the Tie Conaill men are a special case......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2022, 03:43:40 PM
At the minute managers have no clue whether they're going to be working with u18 or u17 for the incoming season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 30, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Are Saffron Voice gone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Are Saffron Voice gone?

Seasons over, back in new year.. or changing it to Oak voice

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 30, 2022, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Are Saffron Voice gone?

What will do Jim without our weekly instalment as such
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on November 30, 2022, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 30, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Are Saffron Voice gone?

What will do Jim without our weekly instalment as such

Think they are off on holidays.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2022, 09:10:03 PM
all the cargin lads staying on? lot miles on clock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2022, 09:10:03 PM
all the cargin lads staying on? lot miles on clock

Was chatting to Mick and he feels unfinished business which requires another year...
Lotta young lads chomping at the bit but no retirements.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on November 30, 2022, 09:27:31 PM
Also plenty of young lads with alot of experience gained and championship medals in there back pockets.
More coming through which I'm sure will feature next season
Keeping the older lads on their toes !!

Going back to last Sunday's game I think the Cargin management don't a masterclass tactically to stifle Glen and would have thought there game plan was well intact until the final minute of the game .
Let's see if kilco can hold them to 11 scores.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2022, 09:50:40 PM
Creeegan and portglenone the challengers again next year ? Belfast miles off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 30, 2022, 09:50:40 PM
Creeegan and portglenone the challengers again next year ? Belfast miles off

Lotta challengers ...Aghagallon may well be first in line but folly to ignore L Dhearg, the Johnnies or possibly St Brigid's....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 30, 2022, 10:13:12 PM
St Brigids won't count. Couple of years early for them.

I'm going for Cargin or Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2022, 10:13:12 PM
St Brigids won't count. Couple of years early for them.

I'm going for Cargin or Portglenone.

Hearing change in the draw procedure.....and do you think PG1 have strength in depth to go all the way...25 probables is my  estimation on requirement....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 30, 2022, 10:43:27 PM
Makes me giggle people even now tipping Portglenone, very average team with a sprinkling of some decent players up the spine of the team, afraid the winners will be Cargin or Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on December 01, 2022, 07:48:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2022, 10:13:12 PM
St Brigids won't count. Couple of years early for them.

I'm going for Cargin or Portglenone.

Hearing change in the draw procedure.....and do you think PG1 have strength in depth to go all the way...25 probables is my  estimation on requirement....

Hopefully back to straight knockout, groups are brutal too many dead rubbers. If they want to give teams at least 2 games then do a back door system, the groups are not fit for purpose at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 01, 2022, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 01, 2022, 07:48:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 30, 2022, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 30, 2022, 10:13:12 PM
St Brigids won't count. Couple of years early for them.

I'm going for Cargin or Portglenone.

Hearing change in the draw procedure.....and do you think PG1 have strength in depth to go all the way...25 probables is my  estimation on requirement....

Hopefully back to straight knockout, groups are brutal too many dead rubbers. If they want to give teams at least 2 games then do a back door system, the groups are not fit for purpose at all

I thought the groups were dead on this year when stripped back to one round instead of the two rounds previously. Will a change of mgt at Musgrave make any difference, see the Donegal man is away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 01, 2022, 09:25:49 AM
There's every chance a new St Brigids manager will find significant improvement, but they are a long way from genuine contenders at present.

PG1 are a strong team but don't seem to be able to get over the semi-final hurdle. Club appears to be on an upward curve and will be genuine contenders if they can find a bit more improvement.

Not much needs to be said about Cargin and Creggan who are both widely expected to be claiming silverware.

Aghagallon have earned the respect of being a genuine contender after reaching two finals in recent years. Suspect a third final might be a big ask.

LD and St Johns will always be tough championship games for anyone but wouldn't expect either to be winning the championship next year.

St Galls have lots of young talent but long way from genuine championship contenders as yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on December 01, 2022, 09:25:49 AM
There's every chance a new St Brigids manager will find significant improvement, but they are a long way from genuine contenders at present.

PG1 are a strong team but don't seem to be able to get over the semi-final hurdle. Club appears to be on an upward curve and will be genuine contenders if they can find a bit more improvement.

Not much needs to be said about Cargin and Creggan who are both widely expected to be claiming silverware.

Aghagallon have earned the respect of being a genuine contender after reaching two finals in recent years. Suspect a third final might be a big ask.

LD and St Johns will always be tough championship games for anyone but wouldn't expect either to be winning the championship next year.

St Galls have lots of young talent but long way from genuine championship contenders as yet.

Are Rossa worth a mention if they get full buy in from the hurlers?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on December 01, 2022, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on December 01, 2022, 09:25:49 AM
There's every chance a new St Brigids manager will find significant improvement, but they are a long way from genuine contenders at present.

PG1 are a strong team but don't seem to be able to get over the semi-final hurdle. Club appears to be on an upward curve and will be genuine contenders if they can find a bit more improvement.

Not much needs to be said about Cargin and Creggan who are both widely expected to be claiming silverware.

Aghagallon have earned the respect of being a genuine contender after reaching two finals in recent years. Suspect a third final might be a big ask.

LD and St Johns will always be tough championship games for anyone but wouldn't expect either to be winning the championship next year.

St Galls have lots of young talent but long way from genuine championship contenders as yet.

Are Rossa worth a mention if they get full buy in from the hurlers?

Absolutely. Rossa at full strength are always a difficult game for anyone!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 01, 2022, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on December 01, 2022, 09:25:49 AM
There's every chance a new St Brigids manager will find significant improvement, but they are a long way from genuine contenders at present.

PG1 are a strong team but don't seem to be able to get over the semi-final hurdle. Club appears to be on an upward curve and will be genuine contenders if they can find a bit more improvement.

Not much needs to be said about Cargin and Creggan who are both widely expected to be claiming silverware.

Aghagallon have earned the respect of being a genuine contender after reaching two finals in recent years. Suspect a third final might be a big ask.

LD and St Johns will always be tough championship games for anyone but wouldn't expect either to be winning the championship next year.

St Galls have lots of young talent but long way from genuine championship contenders as yet.

Are Rossa worth a mention if they get full buy in from the hurlers?

Indeed, but Rossa will always put hurling first......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 01, 2022, 10:46:15 AM
those bad injuries to key men Rossa suffered last year won't have helped them either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2022, 11:56:08 AM
New top looks superb.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2022, 04:34:39 PM
Congratulations to esteemed  county treasurer Donal Murphy on securing a highly lucrative 5 years sponsorship deal with Fibrus. Was most impressed with todays professional launch in Belfast Hilton.

Dominic Kearns is as proud an Antrim man as you could wish for and certainly hasn't forgotten his roots. Vital resources are now available to the county in both codes from under 17 through under 20 to senior  squads - in the process facilitating the development of our potentially elite players as they come out of an already improved juvenile system.

Fair play to all involved, Mackers for his hosting, county managers for their insightful contributions, a shout out ongoing sponsors Premier Electric and Donnelly property, and to evergreen staples Creagh Concrete.

Couldn't help but notice a cosy little cartel in the corner, Philip, Dick, Collie and Tony who rightly deserve all the kudos they receive for the formation and delivery of Saffron Vision...the forerunner that made events like today possible!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on December 01, 2022, 04:52:24 PM
You forgot to put "press release"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on December 01, 2022, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on November 30, 2022, 09:27:31 PM
Also plenty of young lads with alot of experience gained and championship medals in there back pockets.
More coming through which I'm sure will feature next season
Keeping the older lads on their toes !!

Going back to last Sunday's game I think the Cargin management don't a masterclass tactically to stifle Glen and would have thought there game plan was well intact until the final minute of the game .
Let's see if kilco can hold them to 11 scores.

Stifle all you want....well done with that but the idea is that you score more than your opponent. Cargin played on the edge and maximised their physicality in the middle third but offered very little in the final third where it matters most.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2022, 07:26:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!
Probably could argue caught up in hype of Glen and became over defensive, but I do believe we got it right. Hung in there against a strong wind in 1st half and with the clock at 60mins we're 2points down heading into 3mins injury time having just turned a Glen kickout over (free against Mick and game over basically). So I take your point, but I do think but it's a very negative way of looking at it, all things considered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 01, 2022, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 01, 2022, 04:34:39 PM
Congratulations to esteemed  county treasurer Donal Murphy on securing a highly lucrative 5 years sponsorship deal with Fibrus. Was most impressed with todays professional launch in Belfast Hilton.

Dominic Kearns is as proud an Antrim man as you could wish for and certainly hasn't forgotten his roots. Vital resources are now available to the county in both codes from under 17 through under 20 to senior  squads - in the process facilitating the development of our potentially elite players as they come out of an already improved juvenile system.

Fair play to all involved, Mackers for his hosting, county managers for their insightful contributions, a shout out ongoing sponsors Premier Electric and Donnelly property, and to evergreen staples Creagh Concrete.

Couldn't help but notice a cosy little cartel in the corner, Philip, Dick, Collie and Tony who rightly deserve all the kudos they receive for the formation and delivery of Saffron Vision...the forerunner that made events like today possible!
Will any other Portglenone lads go up along with Dermot BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 01, 2022, 08:07:50 PM
Dermot and Ryan O Neill atm EOC. Ryan Convery took part in extended squad session/match recently but not sure if he's officially on the panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 02, 2022, 07:52:52 AM
Some of the comments above are laughable.   Glen are a serious outfit. This isn't u12 football.   Opening up and going for it worked well for Enniskillen against kilcoo.   

Neither side had a perfect game and would come away with things they would change which is the  same in any match.   Antrim football has a bit more respect this week. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2022, 08:05:46 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Jeez Gold you so seemwell aware of the requirements of life on the fast lane on the Ulster Way...

Am sure RD and the lads would be grateful of such musings when they set about ascending the same steep trail 2023.....ty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 02, 2022, 08:27:51 AM
Yawn

Best not offer up any analysis or opinion else the bumpkin will directly attack you or your club.

Dafuq age are you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2022, 09:11:08 AM
Some big experts on cargin now and game plans and not going for it as such.Last week it was a matter of Glen turning up just for a comfortable win. I can tell you Cargin played well no matter about everyone's negativity and brought the game down to injury time. You can all have a go at us next year and see how you all fair out, Bring it on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on December 02, 2022, 09:15:33 AM
New social media page for Antrim GAA, the Antrim GAA - wonder is this a splinter group for the SV lads as such..
*antrim agenda
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 02, 2022, 09:21:07 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.
Lets hope never reads this board, a 21 year old leading the line in an Ulster Club semi final but gets slaughtered on here for his performance, fitness and conditioning. Catch a grip lads.
Gold not sure if your post is patronising but I recall a glowing tribute you gave Creggan last year when they lost at the first hurdle to Clann Eireann. Cargin are held to different standards on here obviously, painful stuff reading this dross. My last post on this issue, anyone for the McKenna Cup  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 02, 2022, 09:27:13 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 02, 2022, 09:11:08 AM
Some big experts on cargin now and game plans and not going for it as such.Last week it was a matter of Glen turning up just for a comfortable win. I can tell you Cargin played well no matter about everyone's negativity and brought the game down to injury time. You can all have a go at us next year and see how you all fair out, Bring it on.

Depends what way you read it. I said Cargin weren't at their best and speaking to one of their players the other day they felt the same way! They could have beaten Glen the other day! But go on ahead and take it as an insult on the whole of Cargin club. Pin the comments up on the changing room wall. But really all the Cargin players I know don't have the chip on their supporters from the Gaaboard do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 09:29:54 AM
Teams at the top will always have ones giving them a dig, get over it, take it as a positive, could be worse, you could be my club ;D

Also plenty of posters have digs at players on this site, that's a given unfortunately, they may not say these things face to face but have a free shot on here

Some positives and some negatives to take in any game, the season is over so hopefully the County team can give us something to look forward to.

I'll take a dander down next week and have run my eye over a bunch of lads doing a bit of individual training  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2022, 12:18:24 PM
Zero truth in that one whatsoever! Best to upgrade your sources G&T...lol.

Said person quite content to hang over the fence and watch PG1 hopefully evolve into a serious contender in the next few years.  Beyond that with even greater expectation when a new batch of even greater quality emerges from the excellent work being done at juvenile level.

Starting with 2022 Antrim Og Sport winners who lost narrowly in extra time to Ulster champions Eglish. That's the start of what I confidently predict will be a very exciting period around Portglenone.

Hopefully by then we are all seeing the benefit of increased activity (quality and quantity) across the county feeding into a much enhanced county juvenile set up at county level too.

Lots to be optimistic about....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 02, 2022, 12:37:12 PM
Don't be putting pressure on them BS.  A fancied Portglenone team i saw were dumped out in the early rounds of a youth blitz over the summer and their conduct at such a result was more of Prima donnas than playing for the love of the game.  You have first-hand experience with Sean Stinsons that winning loads at underage with a good team, and inflating their egos does not always result in a battle hardened Senior team.

Let the kids develop in their own time without the pressure of having to be the club's saviours.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 02, 2022, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.
Barnish that's a pretty cheap shot.

In case you hadn't noticed he was one of the better performers in the Tailtean Cup defeat to Leitrim.

In case you hadn't noticed he was being used as a target for kickouts in the first half against the wind competing quite sucessfully in an area with an all star midfielder and some other serious operators. (Part of a reasonably successful kick out strategy).
He was then being used as a target inside, so late in the second half against a hard running, well conditioned opposition in an ulster senior club semi final you might understand that the legs might not do what the head might want them to do.

You might be better focusing your efforts on some of those underage C teams developing talent, discipline and conditioning as I don't think there are any plans for a D league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2022, 12:55:03 PM
I'm not putting pressure on them Spike, in fact I dont have any real interaction with them at all, and I'd be surprised if any of them were on Gaaboard!

I really like what I see, best to leave it at that...in any event, time will indeed tell if my opinion turns out to be correct or turn to horse manure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2022, 01:29:13 PM
BS I always admire your optimism!

Also love this wee video from the sponsorship stuff:...https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Reid/status/1598343006943330304 (https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Reid/status/1598343006943330304)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 02, 2022, 01:29:13 PM
BS I always admire your optimism!

Also love this wee video from the sponsorship stuff:...https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Reid/status/1598343006943330304 (https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Reid/status/1598343006943330304)

All those hurlers in Whitehead!! one of the images at the start

All joking aside, fantastic stuff from everyone involved with getting sponsorship during these times, otherwise the preparation required to get them to a competitive level is not available
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 02, 2022, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.
Barnish that's a pretty cheap shot.

In case you hadn't noticed he was one of the better performers in the Tailtean Cup defeat to Leitrim.

In case you hadn't noticed he was being used as a target for kickouts in the first half against the wind competing quite sucessfully in an area with an all star midfielder and some other serious operators. (Part of a reasonably successful kick out strategy).
He was then being used as a target inside, so late in the second half against a hard running, well conditioned opposition in an ulster senior club semi final you might understand that the legs might not do what the head might want them to do.

You might be better focusing your efforts on some of those underage C teams developing talent, discipline and conditioning as I don't think there are any plans for a D league.

Like a broken record you.

Funny you never seem to put your own contributions to any club on here.

Easier to mouth off about some perceived mindset in my club, without stating anything about your club or what you contribute to them.

Hardly a cheap shot but then again, it seems you only post to have a cheap shot in the first place.

Maybe you username is a misspelling and you should replace the first two letters with one.

I have seen Pat play more than just that match and as I said earlier, an incredible talent, there are many in this country could only wish to have feet like his and his physical attributes.

I, and others I have spoken to, just feel that he comes across as lazy at times.

Maybe when you see the work rate of the likes of Tomas beside him, who has a good few years on him, then it reflects badly on him.

My opinion, and that of others as I say, and we are perfectly entitled to have that opinion until we see evidence to the contrary.

But then sure didn't the great Maurice Fitz get the same reputation and he wasn't a bad footballer!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 02, 2022, 02:50:43 PM
One thing about Sunday is that the fitness levels of these fellas are incredible. If Pat is in MeEntee's plans then I have no doubts a fitness s&c programme has been put to him by now.  He is still a youngster with a large frame to carry, essential he keeps on it and building year on year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 03:00:21 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 02, 2022, 02:50:43 PM
One thing about Sunday is that the fitness levels of these fellas are incredible. If Pat is in MeEntee's plans then I have no doubts a fitness s&c programme has been put to him by now.  He is still a youngster with a large frame to carry, essential he keeps on it and building year on year.

It would be criminal if he wasn't considered part of the plans so here's hoping.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2022, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 02, 2022, 08:05:46 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Jeez Gold you so seemwell aware of the requirements of life on the fast lane on the Ulster Way...

Am sure RD and the lads would be grateful of such musings when they set about ascending the same steep trail 2023.....ty

Yep, proud of our lads and team management in their progress last year....
How man giving advice have experienced an Ulster club semi final......yabba etc hasn't...
Negativity from begrudgers like the Breathe poster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2022, 03:52:10 PM
All that glitters is not GOLD often I have heard that told.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 02, 2022, 04:35:16 PM
U country boys love a Barny !
When first national league match ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2022, 09:07:37 PM
Not sure how many will make eventual panel G&T when Andy cuts the training panel down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 02, 2022, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 02, 2022, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 02, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Gold on December 02, 2022, 12:32:56 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 01, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with Cargin against Glen. I watched it twice and felt that Cargin weren't anywhere near their best. They should have attacked more and went after the game. Nearly felt like that they were trying to stay in it rather than go and win it!

Totally agree. 2 shots in 1st half makes Jimmy McGuinness' Donegal of 2011 look attacking....but for missed 1 on 1s and shlt after shot from Glen kicked wide under little pressure Cargin could've been blown out of it. Catching marks and not even looking to kick it  forward was destined for a slow death

Cargin could have had more of a go and should have done. Can't win a fight by ducking away from shots, you have to throw a dig

Forwards were poor...only Kobo (unbelievable footballer), O neill and Bradley when he came on were fit to break lines...which is what you need at this level

The young lads need put on serious weight programmes to maximise potential, and really punch at that level, especially Shivers who is a tall man and has the time on his side to add power and fitness to a game reliant on natural talent at present

Last 4 in Ulster is some achievement,  just feel they will be gutted they didn't have a real go

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Late in the second half he lost the ball in the right corner and just watched his man break away with the ball without making any effort to tackle.

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy, so hopefully it is just fitness and with improvement on that he steps up, as he would be a great addition to the county team if he had a higher work rate.
Barnish that's a pretty cheap shot.

In case you hadn't noticed he was one of the better performers in the Tailtean Cup defeat to Leitrim.

In case you hadn't noticed he was being used as a target for kickouts in the first half against the wind competing quite sucessfully in an area with an all star midfielder and some other serious operators. (Part of a reasonably successful kick out strategy).
He was then being used as a target inside, so late in the second half against a hard running, well conditioned opposition in an ulster senior club semi final you might understand that the legs might not do what the head might want them to do.

You might be better focusing your efforts on some of those underage C teams developing talent, discipline and conditioning as I don't think there are any plans for a D league.

Like a broken record you.

Funny you never seem to put your own contributions to any club on here.

Easier to mouth off about some perceived mindset in my club, without stating anything about your club or what you contribute to them.

Hardly a cheap shot but then again, it seems you only post to have a cheap shot in the first place.

Maybe you username is a misspelling and you should replace the first two letters with one.

I have seen Pat play more than just that match and as I said earlier, an incredible talent, there are many in this country could only wish to have feet like his and his physical attributes.

I, and others I have spoken to, just feel that he comes across as lazy at times.

Maybe when you see the work rate of the likes of Tomas beside him, who has a good few years on him, then it reflects badly on him.

My opinion, and that of others as I say, and we are perfectly entitled to have that opinion until we see evidence to the contrary.

But then sure didn't the great Maurice Fitz get the same reputation and he wasn't a bad footballer!

Not mouthing of Barnish just trying to highlight and draw attention to the level the lad is playing at and where he is being judged

Is it a lack of fitness or just a lack of a desire to work?

Incredibly talented but looks so lazy

Have seen him play loads of times. Most of the time at a very high grade of football making a significant contribution. Couple of Minor championships, Couple of Senior championships, A MACrory Cup winner, Antrim Senior County panelist and I'm sure loads of other things as well.

Just thought it was very harsh comment from someone involved in coaching on a lad with a big frame who will physically mature a little later than a 5 10 / 5 11 type guy..

He is not doing 2 bad for a guy that has a bit of developing ahead of him.

Just an opinion. Will agree to disagree on it



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
Flanker have you ever criticised a player before? Been plenty on here and is this the first time you've jumped in to defend criticism?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 02, 2022, 10:14:41 PM
Agree totally Flanker ....
Pat works very hard indeed and I M O he is still in the development process.

Never will be blessed with a ton of pace, and if he has a fault it is he find It difficult to forgive himself for error or mistake.

His best years are incoming and glad to say his brother Tom is another youngster to look out for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on December 02, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
Flanker have you ever criticised a player before? Been plenty on here and is this the first time you've jumped in to defend criticism?

I'm sure I have been critical of players at times. Your probably going to dig something out of a post somewhere where I have criticised a player. As I mentioned it is just an opinion based on what I have seen. I thought it was overly harsh. He has always played at a very high grade/level of football which needs to be considered when making judgement.but we can all have opinions and agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 11:10:56 PM
Quote from: Flanker on December 02, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
Flanker have you ever criticised a player before? Been plenty on here and is this the first time you've jumped in to defend criticism?

I'm sure I have been critical of players at times. Your probably going to dig something out of a post somewhere where I have criticised a player. As I mentioned it is just an opinion based on what I have seen. I thought it was overly harsh. He has always played at a very high grade/level of football which needs to be considered when making judgement.but we can all have opinions and agree to disagree.

I'm not going to pull any posts, if you're criticising people it's based on what you see at the time, it's not the collective per se..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2022, 08:56:54 AM
Really looking forward to a win for Cuchullian's tomorrow.

Fed up listening to those across the bridge who have really got such inflated opinion of themselves.
Incorrect when the suggested a hammering for Cargin v Glen and really look forward to Dunloy bursting their bubble...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 03, 2022, 09:48:25 AM
Old man shouts at cloud
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 03, 2022, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2022, 08:56:54 AM
Really looking forward to a win for Cuchullian's tomorrow.

Fed up listening to those across the bridge who have really got such inflated opinion of themselves.
Incorrect when the suggested a hammering for Cargin v Glen and really look forward to Dunloy bursting their bubble...

Derry Club= Big shots
Antrim Club = Wee fry

I'll take your WU and raise you with double WU
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 03, 2022, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 03, 2022, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 03, 2022, 08:56:54 AM
Really looking forward to a win for Cuchullian's tomorrow.

Fed up listening to those across the bridge who have really got such inflated opinion of themselves.
Incorrect when the suggested a hammering for Cargin v Glen and really look forward to Dunloy bursting their bubble...

Derry Club= Big shots
Antrim Club = Wee fry

I'll take your W
U and raise you with double WU

Repetitive wanderer..........heard.that b4.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2022, 10:12:58 AM
Glad to see RD and his team carry on their great work at Cargin....they have extended their panel to include a lot of talented up an coming youngsters.

A journey yet to complete..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:17:24 AM
Wheres yer man RD from
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 04, 2022, 10:25:13 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:17:24 AM
Wheres yer man RD from

Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:30:25 AM
Ah. Thought he was wan themmuns from across the bridge. Them boys that think they know it all 😉😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 04, 2022, 11:05:34 AM
Cargin have a rule that no one in the club can take their team  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 04, 2022, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:30:25 AM
Ah. Thought he was wan themmuns from across the bridge. Them boys that think they know it all 😉😃

Pat shivers lives in derry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2022, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:30:25 AM
Ah. Thought he was wan themmuns from across the bridge. Them boys that think they know it all 😉😃

A few of those from across the river on this site....as you can tell.......ostracised. And no wonder only WUMs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 04, 2022, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:30:25 AM
Ah. Thought he was wan themmuns from across the bridge. Them boys that think they know it all 😉😃

Pat shivers lives in derry

Hes a wile inflated opinion of himself since he moved 😉😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2022, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 04, 2022, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 10:30:25 AM
Ah. Thought he was wan themmuns from across the bridge. Them boys that think they know it all 😉😃

Pat shivers lives in derry

Hes a wile inflated opinion of himself since he moved 😉😃

Where did Pat move from.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 02:29:09 PM
Has he always been in Derry?! Jeepers oh you should have a word in his ear tell him and the likes to tone it down a bit 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2022, 02:54:20 PM
Delighted to see Dunloy get the better of S'neil.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 04, 2022, 03:00:04 PM
Eoghan Gallagher going well for Moycullen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:01:57 PM
Bumpkin you should head to the Antrim Hurling thread oul han. Theyre a humble lot over there you could learn something 😉

That hurlin defeat will maybe bring the likes of Devlin and Shivers down a peg or two..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 04, 2022, 03:02:57 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:01:57 PM
U should head to the Antrim Hurling thread oul han. Theyre a humble lot over there you could learn something 😉

That hurlin defeat will maybe bring the likes of Devlin and Shivers down a peg or two..
Just observing here but you are a complete tool no harm to you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:04:34 PM
Twas yourself and bumpkin dragged me in here eoc so right back at ye 😉
Couple knobjockeys who do their club no favours
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 04, 2022, 03:07:02 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:04:34 PM
Twas yourself and bumpkin dragged me in here eoc so right back at ye 😉
Couple knobjockeys who do their club no favours
A bit early on a Sunday to be airlocked but good luck to you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:10:41 PM
Top bants *hic*
Im away to Dunloy for the cure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 04, 2022, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:10:41 PM
Top bants *hic*
Im away to Dunloy for the cure

Keep mouthing like that in Dunloy and see how well you fare.


Some absolute roasters on this thread this week I tell ye.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:24:42 PM
Think you need to look up mouthin mate....

3 of them at me, how many more are there?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 04, 2022, 03:26:29 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:10:41 PM
Top bants *hic*
Im away to Dunloy for the cure

A, WUP......thrown off the Derry site .....had tried it on amongst the bushes and ejected from the Tir Eoghan board as well.
An out of control juvenile......better off finishing that homework........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:31:37 PM
Dafuq do ye get thrown off the derry/tyrone threads, thats a new one

Listen ill leave yis in peace, im away to read my pm's from my Antrim supporters just so i know not everyone hates me o er here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on December 06, 2022, 01:42:47 PM
Just shorten that name to jibbajabba lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2022, 07:11:08 PM
Good luck yo st brigids tomorrow and St Paul's , great to see it back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2022, 07:11:08 PM
Good luck yo st brigids tomorrow and St Paul's , great to see it back
Great to see it back, anyone up yesterday did the score line flatter the down lads?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 09, 2022, 07:11:08 PM
Good luck yo st brigids tomorrow and St Paul's , great to see it back
Great to see it back, anyone up yesterday did the score line flatter the down lads?

Burren had a huge start.....three goals in the opening quarter, one a suspect penalty...that was that.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 02:31:21 PM
Ah well, think Cargin will look at that and wonder what if......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.

Your lads Jim could have been Ulster champions today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.
And all the ulster club games were several levels above the Antrim championship, where does that leave Aghagallon 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.
And all the ulster club games were several levels above the Antrim championship, where does that leave Aghagallon 🤣
I 100% agree with that. We are a long long way off Ulster Championship level. Could have caught Cargin this year in a one off game but still a good bit away from antrim Championship level. A lot of hard work going on like there is in your own club and making great strides so hopefully one day we will get to have a go at ulster. I don't see what's wrong with saying that game was several levels above the Cargin glen game. Even the intensity and pace was noticeably different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.

Your lads Jim could have been Ulster champions today
I'm sensible enough to know it doesn't work like that. Sure Clonduff were only a penalty shootout away from beating Kilcoo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.
And all the ulster club games were several levels above the Antrim championship, where does that leave Aghagallon 🤣
I 100% agree with that. We are a long long way off Ulster Championship level. Could have caught Cargin this year in a one off game but still a good bit away from antrim Championship level. A lot of hard work going on like there is in your own club and making great strides so hopefully one day we will get to have a go at ulster. I don't see what's wrong with saying that game was several levels above the Cargin glen game. Even the intensity and pace was noticeably different.
Nothing wrong with it, every game is different in its own right
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 11, 2022, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: smort on December 11, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 01:41:04 PM
Watching that still think Cargin missed a huge opportunity....

This game is about 3 levels above the Glen/cargin semi

Think you need to scamper back over the Bann....or visit Specsavers....

He's right though. Several levels above all the previous games in Ulster.
And all the ulster club games were several levels above the Antrim championship, where does that leave Aghagallon 🤣
I 100% agree with that. We are a long long way off Ulster Championship level. Could have caught Cargin this year in a one off game but still a good bit away from antrim Championship level. A lot of hard work going on like there is in your own club and making great strides so hopefully one day we will get to have a go at ulster. I don't see what's wrong with saying that game was several levels above the Cargin glen game. Even the intensity and pace was noticeably different.
Nothing wrong with it, every game is different in its own right

Hard to evaluate respective games involving different opposition.....so many would suggest Cargin v Creggan in this year's  championship well above the county final.
Then how did the winners stand toe to toe with the Donegal champions and then go on to scare the life outa the Ulster champions...

If indeed there may be others on the board who could rewind the championship and come to a conclusion that the came close to both Cargin and Aghagallon on the way that makes their team close to Glen...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 03:46:02 PM
I think Batman would beat Superman all day long
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2022, 03:46:02 PM
I think Batman would beat Superman all day long

Depends on the colour of their respective jersies......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 10:29:16 PM
Where are the saffron voice lads away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 11, 2022, 10:36:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 10:29:16 PM
Where are the saffron voice lads away?

They are still alive and kicking.....Antrim Agenda on Instagram........think aiming at a youth based audience....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on December 11, 2022, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 10:29:16 PM
Where are the saffron voice lads away?
[/quot

Your are missing them like a hole in the head Jim - hopefully a new podcast is on the Christmas list
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on December 11, 2022, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 11, 2022, 10:29:16 PM
Where are the saffron voice lads away?
[/quot

Your are missing them like a hole in the head Jim - hopefully a new podcast is on the Christmas list

One of the boys in our WhatsApp group described it perfectly:
"A psychologist would have a field day on how quick Aghagallon has lined up alongside Saffron Voice!
The years of feeling abandoned on the County border and now there's a hero trying to take down the County (officials)!  There's a Netflix series in there somewhere!"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on December 13, 2022, 09:18:43 AM
Anyone know if McEntee has confirmed a county panel yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 15, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
Duno about McEntee but St Brigids are building a strong panel at the minute 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 15, 2022, 11:20:58 AM
the chat around is they have 4 sons of a previous All Ireland winning joining them this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 15, 2022, 11:22:14 AM
So what was the fall out with the Downeys in Lavey?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on December 15, 2022, 11:29:40 AM
I'm not sure but for 4 of the ex managers sons to move to Belfast it would be interesting to hear why. I was chatting to a Fella from St Brides who is pretty confident that it is on the cards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2022, 12:22:25 PM
Does Greg Blaney's son still play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 15, 2022, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 15, 2022, 12:22:25 PM
Does Greg Blaney's son still play?

Unless he's got an older one, the lad I know is only 16/17..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 15, 2022, 04:53:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 15, 2022, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 15, 2022, 12:22:25 PM
Does Greg Blaney's son still play?

Unless he's got an older one, the lad I know is only 16/17..

He must have as one played u21s a couple of years ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2022, 05:00:11 PM
There was a John who seemed to not be playing end of last year. I was just wondering on the topic of AI winning sons. I think there's one at u15 or / and u17 too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 15, 2022, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 15, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
Duno about McEntee but St Brigids are building a strong panel at the minute 😜

St Galls are furious.  Blow ins are their territory. ;) :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2022, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 15, 2022, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 15, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
Duno about McEntee but St Brigids are building a strong panel at the minute 😜

St Galls are furious.  Blow ins are their territory. ;) :P

No good unless they have tradition and that's not going to happen any day soon, sure they can't even beat that wee team from Armagh ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 16, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Hearing Aghagallon have caught a big fish.....?

Not taken from the Lough.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on December 16, 2022, 09:41:08 PM
Maybe not your lough, but he'd be close to Carlingford Lough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on December 16, 2022, 10:02:00 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 16, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Hearing Aghagallon have caught a big fish.....?

Not taken from the Lough.....

only eels caught in Lough Neagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 16, 2022, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 16, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Hearing Aghagallon have caught a big fish.....?

Not taken from the Lough.....
7

I believe he's even older than you !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 17, 2022, 03:37:00 AM
Pete Mc Grath. A strong signal of intent as Aghagallon demonstrate ambition to find that next level. This on top of strong rumours about St Brigids massive intake of six new players, 4 of whom were on Derrys Ulster championship winning panel.

Antrim club football setting itself up for a few very interesting years ahead!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 17, 2022, 08:23:30 AM
Hearing the Downey brothers move is not a 'done deal' as yet...as to three to Brigid's and their cousin to Ardboe...(not their first port of call(and in any event who would foresee them in Saffron??)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 17, 2022, 08:29:59 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 16, 2022, 09:32:00 PM
Hearing Aghagallon have caught a big fish.....?

Not taken from the Lough.....
Mourne Seafood
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on December 17, 2022, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 17, 2022, 03:37:00 AM
Pete Mc Grath. A strong signal of intent as Aghagallon demonstrate ambition to find that next level. This on top of strong rumours about St Brigids massive intake of six new players, 4 of whom were on Derrys Ulster championship winning panel.

Antrim club football setting itself up for a few very interesting years ahead!

St brigids nearly have players from every county in ulster with the transfers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2022, 09:17:34 AM
Still Cargin's to lose, these seasons performance will only drive them on, hopefully all the elders will stay on and that youth expel they have is a great combo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 17, 2022, 09:27:55 AM
Pete McGrath going to boost his pension I'm guessing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2022, 09:34:04 AM
It's been a while since the last home grown manager (in football) has won senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 17, 2022, 09:58:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2022, 09:34:04 AM
It's been a while since the last home grown manager (in football) has won senior
Lamh Dhearg?
Nice appointment by Aghagallon, wanting to push on further and who can blame them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 17, 2022, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 17, 2022, 03:37:00 AM
Pete Mc Grath. A strong signal of intent as Aghagallon demonstrate ambition to find that next level. This on top of strong rumours about St Brigids massive intake of six new players, 4 of whom were on Derrys Ulster championship winning panel.

Antrim club football setting itself up for a few very interesting years ahead!

Whose the other 2? A Lavey man told me it's a load of balls. Be shocked if it happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 17, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Just rumours Walter! Probably a bit of poker going on, heard Ardboe are also in the mix. Best to wait and see how this pans out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on December 18, 2022, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them


Was there a falling out with them and their own club what is the reason for all them potentially leaving their own club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Have seen a lotta stuff doing the rounds on the web in statements made by individual members of Lavey by, or in support of a prominent family within.

Do know an approach was made to Cargin a while back which was graciously declined.
The conduit as to South Belfast was an individual in a South Derry school and players were introduced to club as  we members...
Surely Brigid's akin to Cargin have a strong youth base and do wonder who are the up and coming Musgrave lads who will lose out...

A can see a settlement reached in the Erins Own club but in any event I can never envisage a Downey in Saffron.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Have seen a lotta stuff doing the rounds on the web in statements made by individual members of Lavey by, or in support of a prominent family within.

Do know an approach was made to Cargin a while back which was graciously declined.
The conduit as to South Belfast was an individual in a South Derry school and players were introduced to club as  we members...
Surely Brigid's akin to Cargin have a strong youth base and do wonder who are the up and coming Musgrave lads who will lose out...

A can see a settlement reached in the Erins Own club but in any event I can never envisage a Downey in Saffron.....

Brigids  won all youth championships last year so the future must be promising
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2022, 11:18:14 AM
Converting youth/juvenile wins into senior is entirely different as all on here know.. you'd need to be winning five in a row at both minor and under 21 to beat some fruit like Glen have recently that their great kids eventually came through at senior..

One swallow and all that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 18, 2022, 11:28:52 AM
Brides obviously have some fantastic young players coming through, surely they should be given the chance at senior, instead of their progress being stunted. Downeys are class players but your going to disappoint your own members who have been representing the club for 10/15 years. Trust the players who have won numerous underage titles for the club.

No matter if you win at senior or not, be loyal to your own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 18, 2022, 11:37:37 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 18, 2022, 11:28:52 AM
Brides obviously have some fantastic young players coming through, surely they should be given the chance at senior, instead of their progress being stunted. Downeys are class players but your going to disappoint your own members who have been representing the club for 10/15 years. Trust the players who have won numerous underage titles for the club.

No matter if you win at senior or not, be loyal to your own.

St Brigid's have a long history of accepting blow ins due to the fact they were a new club. Those days are over now and they have enough of their own players from underage teams. I don't know if it would sit right with me if 4 or 5 players landed from another club into our senior team in those circumstances. It's different if the family have moved and settled in another parish. Are the lads living in Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on December 18, 2022, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 18, 2022, 11:37:37 AM
Quote from: geezer on December 18, 2022, 11:28:52 AM
Brides obviously have some fantastic young players coming through, surely they should be given the chance at senior, instead of their progress being stunted. Downeys are class players but your going to disappoint your own members who have been representing the club for 10/15 years. Trust the players who have won numerous underage titles for the club.

No matter if you win at senior or not, be loyal to your own.

St Brigid's have a long history of accepting blow ins due to the fact they were a new club. Those days are over now and they have enough of their own players from underage teams. I don't know if it would sit right with me if 4 or 5 players landed from another club into our senior team in those circumstances. It's different if the family have moved and settled in another parish. Are the lads living in Belfast?


Dont know much at all about the situation. Maybe they are living up for uni?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 11:59:32 AM
I believe their mother is from St Brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 18, 2022, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 11:59:32 AM
I believe their mother is from St Brigids

Some spin and diesel money to be driving from Lavey to Belfast 3/4 nights a week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 11:59:32 AM
I believe their mother is from St Brigids

And the St Brigid's chairman is Bursar at St Mary's.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 18, 2022, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Have seen a lotta stuff doing the rounds on the web in statements made by individual members of Lavey by, or in support of a prominent family within.

Do know an approach was made to Cargin a while back which was graciously declined.
The conduit as to South Belfast was an individual in a South Derry school and players were introduced to club as  we members...
Surely Brigid's akin to Cargin have a strong youth base and do wonder who are the up and coming Musgrave lads who will lose out...

A can see a settlement reached in the Erins Own club but in any event I can never envisage a Downey in Saffron.....
I'm sure a Cargin player missed out when Magill transferred in.  Could apply it to a lot of clubs.  Wouldn't get too high & mighty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on December 18, 2022, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Have seen a lotta stuff doing the rounds on the web in statements made by individual members of Lavey by, or in support of a prominent family within.

Do know an approach was made to Cargin a while back which was graciously declined.
The conduit as to South Belfast was an individual in a South Derry school and players were introduced to club as  we members...
Surely Brigid's akin to Cargin have a strong youth base and do wonder who are the up and coming Musgrave lads who will lose out...

A can see a settlement reached in the Erins Own club but in any event I can never envisage a Downey in Saffron.....
I'm sure a Cargin player missed out when Magill transferred in.  Could apply it to a lot of clubs.  Wouldn't get too high & mighty.

CB generally has amnesia when mentioning players from other clubs joining the loughshore green army
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on December 18, 2022, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Have seen a lotta stuff doing the rounds on the web in statements made by individual members of Lavey by, or in support of a prominent family within.

Do know an approach was made to Cargin a while back which was graciously declined.
The conduit as to South Belfast was an individual in a South Derry school and players were introduced to club as  we members...
Surely Brigid's akin to Cargin have a strong youth base and do wonder who are the up and coming Musgrave lads who will lose out...

A can see a settlement reached in the Erins Own club but in any event I can never envisage a Downey in Saffron.....
I'm sure a Cargin player missed out when Magill transferred in.  Could apply it to a lot of clubs.  Wouldn't get too high & mighty.

CB generally has amnesia when mentioning players from other clubs joining the loughshore green army

Michael was an exception and was a big asset.

Led to believe a long list of requests awaiting to follow that route.
We will see...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 18, 2022, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on December 18, 2022, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 18, 2022, 10:48:01 AM
Have seen a lotta stuff doing the rounds on the web in statements made by individual members of Lavey by, or in support of a prominent family within.

Do know an approach was made to Cargin a while back which was graciously declined.
The conduit as to South Belfast was an individual in a South Derry school and players were introduced to club as  we members...
Surely Brigid's akin to Cargin have a strong youth base and do wonder who are the up and coming Musgrave lads who will lose out...

A can see a settlement reached in the Erins Own club but in any event I can never envisage a Downey in Saffron.....
I'm sure a Cargin player missed out when Magill transferred in.  Could apply it to a lot of clubs.  Wouldn't get too high & mighty.

CB generally has amnesia when mentioning players from other clubs joining the loughshore green army

Michael was an exception and was a big asset.

Led to believe a long list of requests awaiting to follow that route.
We will see...?
Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them

I have said that to others since I first heard the rumour.

PG1 would have made great sense but not sure if there are reasons why they would have been bypassed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 19, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them

I have said that to others since I first heard the rumour.

PG1 would have made great sense but not sure if there are reasons why they would have been bypassed.

The Downeys are into their hurling.....but possibly seeking a short cut to success....possibly why early port of call was Toome....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 19, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them

I have said that to others since I first heard the rumour.

PG1 would have made great sense but not sure if there are reasons why they would have been bypassed.

The Downeys are into their hurling.....but possibly seeking a short cut to success....possibly why early port of call was Toome....

Well if it is dual club they are after they should have stopped at Whitehill  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 30, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
From what I can see this incoming year counties have the choice to revert back to u18 for minor.

The ages grades below stay at u13 u15.

The following year the recommendation looks like going back to the original age grades of u12 u14 u16 and u18.

U18 players will only be able to play senior after their schools season has finished from my understanding.

Has anyone heard any more about minor for next year?

I have heard from a couple of people today that they heard minor will be u18 next year.

But I wasn't aware of it being discussed in any official capacity this side of Christmas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 19, 2022, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 19, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them

I have said that to others since I first heard the rumour.

PG1 would have made great sense but not sure if there are reasons why they would have been bypassed.

The Downeys are into their hurling.....but possibly seeking a short cut to success....possibly why early port of call was Toome....

Well if it is dual club they are after they should have stopped at Whitehill  ;D

Cloney Gaels. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 19, 2022, 01:19:09 PM
The Downeys all wanted to go to Cargin until someone told them Cargin didn't play hurling.....because like...they wouldn't have known that!

"Christmas Spoofs & Fantasy Stories by the Loughshore".

Admission FOC, only £10 to exit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 19, 2022, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 30, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
From what I can see this incoming year counties have the choice to revert back to u18 for minor.

The ages grades below stay at u13 u15.

The following year the recommendation looks like going back to the original age grades of u12 u14 u16 and u18.

U18 players will only be able to play senior after their schools season has finished from my understanding.

Has anyone heard any more about minor for next year?

I have heard from a couple of people today that they heard minor will be u18 next year.

But I wasn't aware of it being discussed in any official capacity this side of Christmas.
Its u17, and bizarrely u19 as well in Antrim in 2023 going by the competition entry form sent to clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 19, 2022, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2022, 01:19:09 PM
The Downeys all wanted to go to Cargin until someone told them Cargin didn't play hurling.....because like...they wouldn't have known that!

"Christmas Spoofs & Fantasy Stories by the Loughshore".

Admission FOC, only £10 to exit.

**also worth noting......

None of them play hurling!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on December 19, 2022, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 19, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them

I have said that to others since I first heard the rumour.

PG1 would have made great sense but not sure if there are reasons why they would have been bypassed.

The Downeys are into their hurling.....but possibly seeking a short cut to success....possibly why early port of call was Toome....

Well if it is dual club they are after they should have stopped at Whitehill  ;D

Sure they'll get a football championship and be able to play a bit of stick-ball at Creggan. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 20, 2022, 08:11:26 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on December 19, 2022, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 19, 2022, 09:58:35 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on December 18, 2022, 09:59:59 AM
Surely they'd (Downeys)be just as well signing for the ports BS,just a short spin for them

I have said that to others since I first heard the rumour.

PG1 would have made great sense but not sure if there are reasons why they would have been bypassed.

The Downeys are into their hurling.....but possibly seeking a short cut to success....possibly why early port of call was Toome....

Well if it is dual club they are after they should have stopped at Whitehill  ;D

Sure they'll get a football championship and be able to play a bit of stick-ball at Creggan. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner  ;D

Aye but it's creggan......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: toby47 on December 19, 2022, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2022, 01:19:09 PM
The Downeys all wanted to go to Cargin until someone told them Cargin didn't play hurling.....because like...they wouldn't have known that!

"Christmas Spoofs & Fantasy Stories by the Loughshore".

Admission FOC, only £10 to exit.

**also worth noting......

None of them play hurling!

The Downeys are all excellent hurlers, especially Henry's son Conor but all decided to concentrate on the 'big ball' game....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 20, 2022, 08:02:09 PM
Previously CB you said Cargin was their first port of call except there is no hurling played there!

Now you're saying they're concentrating only on the big ball.

Two posts from same poster saying the exact opposite of each other - unless I'm completely missing something??

What about stop feeding this nonsense and let's see where they actually pop up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 20, 2022, 08:02:09 PM
Previously CB you said Cargin was their first port of call except there is no hurling played there!

Now you're saying they're concentrating only on the big ball.

Two posts from same poster saying the exact opposite of each other - unless I'm completely missing something??

What about stop feeding this nonsense and let's see where they actually pop up.

So an approach was made to Cargin a few weeks past and no further action.

In any event if any young Derry player(s) crossed the Bann in search of a new club the obvious choice would be Cargin if they sought reward for future labours.....logic would dictate...

Why would you care so much....?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 20, 2022, 08:02:09 PM
Previously CB you said Cargin was their first port of call except there is no hurling played there!

Now you're saying they're concentrating only on the big ball.

Two posts from same poster saying the exact opposite of each other - unless I'm completely missing something??

What about stop feeding this nonsense and let's see where they actually pop up.

So an approach was made to Cargin a few weeks past and no further action.

In any event if any young Derry player(s) crossed the Bann in search of a new club the obvious choice would be Cargin if they sought reward for future labours.....logic would dictate...

Why would you care so much....?

Surely go to a club with pedigree that's won Ulster a few times?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 20, 2022, 08:02:09 PM
Previously CB you said Cargin was their first port of call except there is no hurling played there!

Now you're saying they're concentrating only on the big ball.

Two posts from same poster saying the exact opposite of each other - unless I'm completely missing something??

What about stop feeding this nonsense and let's see where they actually pop up.

So an approach was made to Cargin a few weeks past and no further action.

In any event if any young Derry player(s) crossed the Bann in search of a new club the obvious choice would be Cargin if they sought reward for future labours.....logic would dictate...

Why would you care so much....?

Surely go to a club with pedigree that's won Ulster a few times?

Well.all.options remain open.....although a strong bond between Erins Own and Erins Own...

Cargin do have a youthful senior panel and as I said before all options remain open....have prefixed with the word 'possibly' before and such remains...

Hearing Musgrave may well not be the landing zone.....

All will be revealed in time......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on December 20, 2022, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 20, 2022, 08:02:09 PM
Previously CB you said Cargin was their first port of call except there is no hurling played there!

Now you're saying they're concentrating only on the big ball.

Two posts from same poster saying the exact opposite of each other - unless I'm completely missing something??

What about stop feeding this nonsense and let's see where they actually pop up.

So an approach was made to Cargin a few weeks past and no further action.

In any event if any young Derry player(s) crossed the Bann in search of a new club the obvious choice would be Cargin if they sought reward for future labours.....logic would dictate...

Why would you care so much....?

Surely go to a club with pedigree that's won Ulster a few times?

Well.all.options remain open.....although a strong bond between Erins Own and Erins Own...

Cargin do have a youthful senior panel and as I said before all options remain open....have prefixed with the word 'possibly' before and such remains...

Hearing Musgrave may well not be the landing zone.....

All will be revealed in time......
But you still don't want them because you wouldn't want any of your up and coming youth talent to miss out.  Right?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 20, 2022, 10:13:59 PM
Thanks for being so informative CB, do tell us more. Are you saying Downeys made an official approach to join Cargin, or not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 20, 2022, 10:20:11 PM
They don't even bother with hurling AFAIK. Would be shocked if anything comes of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 21, 2022, 07:44:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 20, 2022, 10:13:59 PM
Thanks for being so informative CB, do tell us more. Are you saying Downeys made an official approach to join Cargin, or not?

Not in any official role at Cargin so all I can say is 'approach was made to Cargin.
But again very few approaches made for such are accepted unless those individuals have moved to the area...

BTW, BS, what provokes your interest/concern..?

Am sure you will be kept informed on the progress of transfer inward requests currently being considered....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 21, 2022, 07:51:36 AM
Nothing can be set in stone to January I'm told.
Unlike the wee ports who claimed to be league champions last year after five/six games until they met the big dogs 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 21, 2022, 09:04:21 AM
In the interests of balance it should be noted that PG1 didn't claim anything of the sort. And you certainly won't find anything on gaaboard either Lar to back up that assertion.

Don't tell me we are in the Big Dogs head? Go enjoy your well earned break lads, next year will sort itself out!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on December 21, 2022, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 20, 2022, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: toby47 on December 19, 2022, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 19, 2022, 01:19:09 PM
The Downeys all wanted to go to Cargin until someone told them Cargin didn't play hurling.....because like...they wouldn't have known that!

"Christmas Spoofs & Fantasy Stories by the Loughshore".

Admission FOC, only £10 to exit.

**also worth noting......

None of them play hurling!

The Downeys are all excellent hurlers, especially Henry's son Conor but all decided to concentrate on the 'big ball' game....

He's still at school so most likely still playing both. Lavey are in the ulster minor at screen so will be interesting to see if he plays.

Enda is a good hurler. Odhran played but i'm not sure about the other 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 21, 2022, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 21, 2022, 09:04:21 AM
In the interests of balance it should be noted that PG1 didn't claim anything of the sort. And you certainly won't find anything on gaaboard either Lar to back up that assertion.

Don't tell me we are in the Big Dogs head? Go enjoy your well earned break lads, next year will sort itself out!




Not in the big dogs heads 100% not BS.
Hooe you all have a great Christmas 😎
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 21, 2022, 07:03:25 PM
Are the cargin lads in with the county this year ? Never mind the Derry wans
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 22, 2022, 02:22:58 PM
Two or three young fellas from Cargin up just
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
is squad announced?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 22, 2022, 08:50:38 PM
See St Brigid's added another juvenile title this evening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2022, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
is squad announced?

Seen some new Rossa men, some younger Cargin lads, less Lamhs players, some new and old St Brigid's ones, good representation of Moneyglass players, not many from PG1 and the usual Creggan lads, couple of aghagallon, one from my club, was hoping more, one from the Johnnies

Would imagine squad will be announced in the new year when they can actually start training 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 01, 2023, 10:08:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2022, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
is squad announced?

Seen some new Rossa men, some younger Cargin lads, less Lamhs players, some new and old St Brigid's ones, good representation of Moneyglass players, not many from PG1 and the usual Creggan lads, couple of aghagallon, one from my club, was hoping more, one from the Johnnies

Would imagine squad will be announced in the new year when they can actually start training

Happy New year folks.....glad to hear Michael Mc Cann is set for a visit with a surgeon soon....no plans on retirement in the immediate future.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 01, 2023, 11:30:11 AM
Good to hear and happy new years
Be good to see the team put in mckenna cup on wed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on January 01, 2023, 11:14:10 PM
Back for one post only.
Happy new year to all, apart from MR11 Rasharkin and Ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 02, 2023, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 01, 2023, 10:08:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2022, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
is squad announced?

Seen some new Rossa men, some younger Cargin lads, less Lamhs players, some new and old St Brigid's ones, good representation of Moneyglass players, not many from PG1 and the usual Creggan lads, couple of aghagallon, one from my club, was hoping more, one from the Johnnies

Would imagine squad will be announced in the new year when they can actually start training

Happy New year folks.....glad to hear Michael Mc Cann is set for a visit with a surgeon soon....no plans on retirement in the immediate future.....

Requiring surgery doesn't sound overly positive for County football this year either CB!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 02, 2023, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on January 02, 2023, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 01, 2023, 10:08:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2022, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
is squad announced?

Seen some new Rossa men, some younger Cargin lads, less Lamhs players, some new and old St Brigid's ones, good representation of Moneyglass players, not many from PG1 and the usual Creggan lads, couple of aghagallon, one from my club, was hoping more, one from the Johnnies

Would imagine squad will be announced in the new year when they can actually start training

Happy New year folks.....glad to hear Michael Mc Cann is set for a visit with a surgeon soon....no plans on retirement in the immediate future.....

Requiring surgery doesn't sound overly positive for County football this year either CB!

County football is a question.....but must wait and see.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: keep her low this half on January 03, 2023, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 02, 2023, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on January 02, 2023, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 01, 2023, 10:08:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2022, 09:35:41 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 22, 2022, 03:08:18 PM
is squad announced?

Seen some new Rossa men, some younger Cargin lads, less Lamhs players, some new and old St Brigid's ones, good representation of Moneyglass players, not many from PG1 and the usual Creggan lads, couple of aghagallon, one from my club, was hoping more, one from the Johnnies

Would imagine squad will be announced in the new year when they can actually start training

Happy New year folks.....glad to hear Michael Mc Cann is set for a visit with a surgeon soon....no plans on retirement in the immediate future.....

Requiring surgery doesn't sound overly positive for County football this year either CB!

County football is a question.....but must wait and see.....
One of the many advantages of the split season is that club players can have operations in December/January and be fully fit and available for club championship come August. Obviously doesn't work so well for county footballers like Mick who are on the go 12 months a year but in the longer term I could see it extending the playing career of quite a few club players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 03, 2023, 11:35:48 AM
Anyone heard any reports of the club leagues being pushed back to allow greater participation of county players and facilitate a properly split season from county to club? Heard wind of that in other counties but not sure if Antrims leagues will commence around March again. Could imagine a condensed club season with the amount of dual players in the county could create its own problems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 03, 2023, 03:55:34 PM
Just heard Gilly Mc Ilhatton has passed away...A legend in our county....
May his Saffron Soul Rest in Peace...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 03, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
Anyone know if a county squad has been released yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: keep her low this half on January 04, 2023, 10:03:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 03, 2023, 03:55:34 PM
Just heard Gilly Mc Ilhatton has passed away...A legend in our county....
May his Saffron Soul Rest in Peace...
Gilly was the heart and soul of his club for many many years. So many great stories about him as a mentor.
RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2023, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on January 04, 2023, 10:03:08 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 03, 2023, 03:55:34 PM
Just heard Gilly Mc Ilhatton has passed away...A legend in our county....
May his Saffron Soul Rest in Peace...
Gilly was the heart and soul of his club for many many years. So many great stories about him as a mentor.
RIP

I'm old enough to have played against him!! They were struggling for a team and he started in the corner, he was told by his sons to stay away in the corner just to make the 15 (think he was about 60), though he couldn't help himself and away he was up and down the pitch chasing the ball, he managed to pull on a ball and it ended up in the net, first time I saw a man in trousers and shirt scoring a goal in Div 2 hurling!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 04, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
Getting the tea flask ready here for the trip to Armagh. Hoping for an encouraging evening!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2023, 06:17:52 PM
Team up on social media I see. Inexperienced but that's what the McKenna cup is for. A bit more experience on the bench if need be though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2023, 07:45:00 PM
Good crowd there in Armagh, but Antrim up against it! 1-2 down after 7 minutes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2023, 08:19:34 PM
1-10 0-04....

It's a division one team playing against div 3 and it shows

Couple of wides but chances are few and far between for Antrim

Had to laugh at the commentary Antrim have 15 behind the ball here, next Antrim attack Armagh did same, nothing said!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 04, 2023, 10:30:12 PM
Antrim were shocking tonight. Probably one of the biggest crowds antrim will play in front of before the championship. Armagh played 2 teams tonight so they were nowhere near full strength either. A lot of work to do but it's still only the start of January.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 04, 2023, 11:08:40 PM
The two teams are operating on different levels. Armagh looked very strong, maybe they will carry the momentum from their strong season last year into 2023. We were never competitive at any stage this evening, division 3 will be different but stern tests await there too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 04, 2023, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 04, 2023, 11:08:40 PM
The two teams are operating on different levels. Armagh looked very strong, maybe they will carry the momentum from their strong season last year into 2023. We were never competitive at any stage this evening, division 3 will be different but stern tests await there too.

Doesn't look like there's any scores in the forward line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 07:59:07 AM
Feared the worst when I seen the team, particularly from midfield back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 05, 2023, 08:21:07 AM
Decades of nothing at underage - is anyone expecting anything better?  Every year we round up a squad and make the most of it, that's our lot.  Only 4 or 5 clubs have been putting in the requisite effort at underage so the conveyor belt is barely turning.  Tired old arguments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 05, 2023, 09:38:28 AM
Gee whiz lads, give the heads a wobble. Positives are that we look to be making strides physically, a few new players were blooded against top opposition, new management got to look at players in a competitive setting and a couple of prospects looked like they can step up and make an impact in division 3 this year. I'm always amused that the mud slinging comes from the eejits who didn't actually travel to the game and likely didn't bother watching online either. I'd be expecting a more competitive game against Cavan on Sunday. Maybe you boys will brave the mild drizzle and head to portglenone for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 05, 2023, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.

Fair question. Why are there so few players from Cargin, Creggan and Portglenone? At least there's a few Aghagallon men up, with Adam Loughran and Eunan Walshe notable absences?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 09:50:09 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on January 05, 2023, 09:38:28 AM
Gee whiz lads, give the heads a wobble. Positives are that we look to be making strides physically, a few new players were blooded against top opposition, new management got to look at players in a competitive setting and a couple of prospects looked like they can step up and make an impact in division 3 this year. I'm always amused that the mud slinging comes from the eejits who didn't actually travel to the game and likely didn't bother watching online either. I'd be expecting a more competitive game against Cavan on Sunday. Maybe you boys will brave the mild drizzle and head to portglenone for it.

Yep.....Mc Ginley got a kicking all last year despite starting with a win in Mc Kenna and giving Donegal a game in round two..
No representatives from the county champs starting...resting up after a lengthy 2022 campaign....
Times will get better......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 05, 2023, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.

Fair question. Why are there so few players from Cargin, Creggan and Portglenone? At least there's a few Aghagallon men up, with Adam Loughran and Eunan Walshe notable absences?

Adam is injured and Eunan has stepped away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 05, 2023, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.

Fair question. Why are there so few players from Cargin, Creggan and Portglenone? At least there's a few Aghagallon men up, with Adam Loughran and Eunan Walshe notable absences?

Adam is injured and Eunan has stepped away.

The problem is that ambition to gain success really requires full commitment from a healthy squad.
Such requires 5 sessions per week nothing less..

Anything less without firm reasons may well see a return to the basement....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on January 05, 2023, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.
From the 60 odd players involved in the Armagh senior semi finalists only two started for Armagh last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 05, 2023, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.
From the 60 odd players involved in the Armagh senior semi finalists only two started for Armagh last night.
Do you think Armagh might have more quality players at their disposal than Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 05, 2023, 01:19:55 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 05, 2023, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 05, 2023, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:37 AM
New manager new system some new players and a div 3 team playing a div 1 team away from home who were in the 14 finals last year on the 4th of Jan!!

Some serious expectations here, lets judge us when we play a team at our standard, these are pre season warm up games

People stating the obvious and fearing the worst, tired old posts ;)
No reading into result, Were a Division 3 team and Armagh with continuity from recent years progress meant getting close to them would be hard. One concern is the fact out of last years senior semi finalists (which is 60 odd players) we only had 3 on the in the starting team. Looking at the subs this isn't going to change. Managers can only play players who commit so hopefully the team improves as the year goes on.

Fair question. Why are there so few players from Cargin, Creggan and Portglenone? At least there's a few Aghagallon men up, with Adam Loughran and Eunan Walshe notable absences?


Were only a few asked up as far as I know and mostly injured


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 05, 2023, 01:54:19 PM
Anyone actually expecting a different result? Armagh could have very easily gotten to the AI final last year. They are miles ahead of Antrim.

McEntee using this competition as it should, to test new players out. Will be the same on sunday.

Relax.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
One factor in the number of championship finalists is the age demographic. Croziers, McCanns , Johnstons etc are beyond county playing age.

As people said I wouldn't get too worried yet. Armagh are a level above us. Where we get to in division three is the key thing. I honestly think survival is a result and if we were to get near promotion it would be bonus territory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
One factor in the number of championship finalists is the age demographic. Croziers, McCanns , Johnstons etc are beyond county playing age.

As people said I wouldn't get too worried yet. Armagh are a level above us. Where we get to in division three is the key thing. I honestly think survival is a result and if we were to get near promotion it would be bonus territory.

Johnston's beyond county age...?

Mc Cann's pocketed championship medals again last year....Cargin handing out p45s.......Paul and Gerard 31.....and with Kevin Mc Shwith ane , Tomas and Mick....gonna get long rests......with John Carron

30+ scrap heap.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 03:25:50 PM
 I am not in any way slating them. Going back to your point on the five nights a week you get to an age where you have commitments that don't suit that.

What is the older age of county players these days? Not much more than 30+ these days... just to be clear I am in no way talking about ability here.

The mckenna cup is the place to try the younger boys and mcentee is doing that. Teams like Armagh are just a level above us but the key thing is getting experience and eyes on a few players to take into the league.

Hopefully some of the "old" boys will come back too but it's a lot of commitment for people with young families and businesses too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2023, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
One factor in the number of championship finalists is the age demographic. Croziers, McCanns , Johnstons etc are beyond county playing age.

As people said I wouldn't get too worried yet. Armagh are a level above us. Where we get to in division three is the key thing. I honestly think survival is a result and if we were to get near promotion it would be bonus territory.

Johnston's beyond county age...?

Mc Cann's pocketed championship medals again last year....Cargin handing out p45s.......Paul and Gerard 31.....and with Kevin Mc Shwith ane , Tomas and Mick....gonna get long rests......with John Carron

30+ scrap heap.....

Probably the reason why the county is where is at the moment, when this is the case.

No doubting the quality there in the players above, but when they 'pocketing' medals in that age profile it is a little concerning for the health of the talent within the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2023, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
One factor in the number of championship finalists is the age demographic. Croziers, McCanns , Johnstons etc are beyond county playing age.

As people said I wouldn't get too worried yet. Armagh are a level above us. Where we get to in division three is the key thing. I honestly think survival is a result and if we were to get near promotion it would be bonus territory.

Johnston's beyond county age...?

Mc Cann's pocketed championship medals again last year....Cargin handing out p45s.......Paul and Gerard 31.....and with Kevin Mc Shwith ane , Tomas and Mick....gonna get long rests......with John Carron

30+ scrap heap.....

Probably the reason why the county is where is at the moment, when this is the case.

No doubting the quality there in the players above, but when they 'pocketing' medals in that age profile it is a little concerning for the health of the talent within the county.

Hard to find logic for this N1.....when more than 50% of that 2022 wining panel.were under 25 and Cargin did collect back to back minor titles in 20 and 2021......

And those 'veterans' all played lead roles in Cargin's win over the Donegal champions, and gave Ulster club champions a real scare in the provincial semi final......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 04:13:47 PM
Safer pulling the pin on the whole thing sure. Stick to the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 04:36:16 PM
 ;D Get more aghagallon boys in Jim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 05:04:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 04:13:47 PM
Safer pulling the pin on the whole thing sure. Stick to the hurling.

Some woul look.forward to such scenario.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 04:36:16 PM
;D Get more aghagallon boys in Jim!

Not a whole pile of hurling in Aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 04:36:16 PM
;D Get more aghagallon boys in Jim!

Not a whole pile of hurling in Aghagallon

Or winning championships  ;)

Stick to camogie in Armagh ya splitters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 08:09:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 05, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 04:36:16 PM
;D Get more aghagallon boys in Jim!

Not a whole pile of hurling in Aghagallon

Or winning championships  ;)

Stick to camogie in Armagh ya splitters

At least we bate you antrim men last night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2023, 08:10:14 PM
Wouldn't read anything into last night's result other than confirmation of what we already knew about the level of some of the starters last night. We don't have a hidden gem in the county.   We're a div 3 team so understandable the result.

A bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss either.  The tide turned against McGinley last year when promotion was missed against louth.  Now survival seems to be acceptable to the masses.   

McEntee is an experienced and clever man.  I am hoping some of the Antrim league div 1 contenders will be sending more players up.  I dont expect large parts of that team to be in attendance come championship. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 06, 2023, 08:21:34 AM
The players need to be invited so it's not a case of clubs sending more players up. Unless there are clubs seemingly discouraging their players from going up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 06, 2023, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2023, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
One factor in the number of championship finalists is the age demographic. Croziers, McCanns , Johnstons etc are beyond county playing age.

As people said I wouldn't get too worried yet. Armagh are a level above us. Where we get to in division three is the key thing. I honestly think survival is a result and if we were to get near promotion it would be bonus territory.

Johnston's beyond county age...?

Mc Cann's pocketed championship medals again last year....Cargin handing out p45s.......Paul and Gerard 31.....and with Kevin Mc Shwith ane , Tomas and Mick....gonna get long rests......with John Carron

30+ scrap heap.....

Probably the reason why the county is where is at the moment, when this is the case.

No doubting the quality there in the players above, but when they 'pocketing' medals in that age profile it is a little concerning for the health of the talent within the county.

Hard to find logic for this N1.....when more than 50% of that 2022 wining panel.were under 25 and Cargin did collect back to back minor titles in 20 and 2021......

And those 'veterans' all played lead roles in Cargin's win over the Donegal champions, and gave Ulster club champions a real scare in the provincial semi final......?

You made my exact point, the Veterans were the boys who got you over the line in county and ulster competition. Which is great for you, but for the health of the county the fact that these guys are still among the top performers in the county should be a worry for any county manager.

As has been said here the county age profile is dropping and unfortunately these boys are now out of that age profile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 06, 2023, 09:56:36 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 06, 2023, 08:21:34 AM
The players need to be invited so it's not a case of clubs sending more players up. Unless there are clubs seemingly discouraging their players from going up?

Wouldnt expect so, at first glance the team looked curious.  .  I would expect that squad to change drastically between now and ulster championship.  Às someone posted earlier, last years semi finalists panel members appear light but get that McEntee needs to see what he is working with before the inevitable cull comes. And of course we need younger members to get experience regardless of participation this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 07, 2023, 09:07:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 06, 2023, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2023, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 05, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
One factor in the number of championship finalists is the age demographic. Croziers, McCanns , Johnstons etc are beyond county playing age.

As people said I wouldn't get too worried yet. Armagh are a level above us. Where we get to in division three is the key thing. I honestly think survival is a result and if we were to get near promotion it would be bonus territory.

Johnston's beyond county age...?

Mc Cann's pocketed championship medals again last year....Cargin handing out p45s.......Paul and Gerard 31.....and with Kevin Mc Shwith ane , Tomas and Mick....gonna get long rests......with John Carron

30+ scrap heap.....

Probably the reason why the county is where is at the moment, when this is the case.

No doubting the quality there in the players above, but when they 'pocketing' medals in that age profile it is a little concerning for the health of the talent within the county.

Hard to find logic for this N1.....when more than 50% of that 2022 wining panel.were under 25 and Cargin did collect back to back minor titles in 20 and 2021......

And those 'veterans' all played lead roles in Cargin's win over the Donegal champions, and gave Ulster club champions a real scare in the provincial semi final......?

You made my exact point, the Veterans were the boys who got you over the line in county and ulster competition. Which is great for you, but for the health of the county the fact that these guys are still among the top performers in the county should be a worry for any county manager.

As has been said here the county age profile is dropping and unfortunately these boys are now out of that age profile.

Am afraid Conor Mc Manus kicks your theory well wide of the posts.....
The Clontibret native is the same age as Mick Mc Cann..36 and not past his 'sell by' date, just yet...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 07, 2023, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 07, 2023, 09:27:30 PM
Michael McCann is not 36! If he's not 38 he will be very soon.

Tells me he is 37 in June.....but so what class endures.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 07, 2023, 10:23:09 PM
Am afraid Conor Mc Manus kicks your theory well wide of the posts.....
The Clontibret native is the same age as Mick Mc Cann..36 and not past his 'sell by' date, just yet...
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CB did you not realise that Duine Intreacht Eile is the only person allowed to spread incorrect information on Duneane natives?  Tsk tsk

Point taken though regarding age.  Players are taking better care of themselves to prolong their careers. In normal circumstances there are understudys to step up.  Hoping Antrim find such a group this year to carry us forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 07, 2023, 10:37:56 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 07, 2023, 10:23:09 PM

Am afraid Conor Mc Manus kicks your theory well wide of the posts.....
The Clontibret native is the same age as Mick Mc Cann..36 and not past his 'sell by' date, just yet...

CB did you not realise that Duine Intreacht Eile is the only person allowed to spread incorrext information on Duneane natives?  Tsk tsk

Point taken though regarding age.  Players are taking better care of themselves to prolong their careers. In normal circumstances there is are understudys to step up.  Hoping Antrim find such a group this year to carry us forward.
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Not sure bout that not from Duneane myself.....but I do know Mick would make any team in the county and cannot see any senior team refusing admittance to Paul Mc Cann, Tomas, Gerard, J Carron or Kevin Mc Shane.....

And can toss the Johnston boys in that mix.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 08, 2023, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 07, 2023, 11:03:18 PM
And for what it's worth, Conor McManus turned 35 in November.

And you weigh in behind the theory that footballers past the magical 30 number are past their 'sell by' date.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 08, 2023, 01:00:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 08, 2023, 10:54:55 AM
I don't.

I just don't understand why you had to make up a pile of shite to validate your own point. Especially when you were specifically criticising someone for being "well wide of the posts".

My point being.....no player is necessarily past their sell by date at 30......you don't agree....??

End of......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 08, 2023, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 08, 2023, 01:15:07 PM
And you decided to spout lies in order to prove your point.

I answered that question previously btw.

Sin e.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on January 08, 2023, 02:33:44 PM
Who is the co commentator in the Antrim v Cavan match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2023, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 08, 2023, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 08, 2023, 01:15:07 PM
And you decided to spout lies in order to prove your point.

I answered that question previously btw.

Sin e.....

I'm confused is he 36 or 38?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2023, 04:29:53 PM
Just thinking watching this game, we could have been all heading to Croke in couple of weeks...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 08, 2023, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2023, 04:29:53 PM
Just thinking watching this game, we could have been all heading to Croke in couple of weeks...

What for, a tour ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 08, 2023, 09:42:57 PM
Antrim are crafty not showing their hand too soon  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 08, 2023, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 08, 2023, 09:42:57 PM
Antrim are crafty not showing their hand too soon  ::)
Bannside, you are normally a glass half full man in terms of Antrim, what have you made of these two games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2023, 10:04:27 PM
Cavan hammered us at Corrigan when it mattered with our so called best players.. this is the 8th of January so hopefully when the injuries clear up and dads army is recalled we'll be hammering teams come the league!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 09, 2023, 09:04:35 AM
How Sean og O'Neill isn't on that Antrim team is an absolute shocker
Been on top form all year and everyone will agree he's some operator
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 09, 2023, 10:09:40 AM
Not 1 positive from that Dr McKenna Cup campaign, 30 minutes into the 2nd half without a score, if it wasn't for M Byrne we could've lost by 20 yesterday unless we get players back we'll struggle to pick up any points in league campaign
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 11:16:43 AM
Agree Lar. Sean Og O Neill is an absolute gem of a player. I'd be confident that his class will shine through fairly soon and be on Andys radar for a starting berth and in all liklihood a long county career.

His ten minute contribution in Armagh yielded not one, but two skilful and courageous blocks, and yesterday looked lively in the short time he was on the pitch. I imagine his apprenticeship will be short.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 09, 2023, 12:44:38 PM
My assessment is that there was a lack of leadership on-field throughout the game which contributed to a very disjointed performance. This is understandable, given the young inexperienced men thrown into the spine of the team. I go back to my point from Wednesday's game however, the positives are that we are starting to look alot more on par in terms of our physical condition, and these young lads are gaining great experience. That being said, I too was disappointed not to see more of Sean O'Neill and some of the younger panelists. Hopefully they have had/have a good number of challenge games lined up to bring them on a bit.

Is anyone in the know about who is still due to come into this panel? Are the McCann lads retired from intercounty? I was encouraged to see Adam Loughran amongst the panel yesterday. Hopefully he is back soon. Where is Conor Murray this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Andy is definitely looking for a physical type of player, one who can cover big yardage. On top of that he is coming in at a time when natural squad leaders have moved on Mick, Conor, Ricky amongst others.

That's going to mean a whole new dynamic, and that takes time. Who are the natural leaders in the squad now?

It's great to see Dommo Mc Enhill get a chance after a horrible experience under previous management where he didn't kick a single ball all year. He's stepped up and great to see it.

Aghagallon two Adam and Ruairi still to come into the mix, Paddy Mc Aleer, Jamie Gribben, Declan Lynch there too as an option for full back.

There's a panel there for sure, but also there's an urgency to get 15 in right positions with 3 or 4 reliable subs and a game plan to suit. You can't play both Ryan and Pat at 13, so that needs sorted. Two completely different type of players.

Then there's corner back. Two vital positions and Paddy Mc Cormack and Peter Healy can fill those,  we know that from experience.

Midfield - CS needs to go back in there as first phase ball winner as opposed you a galloping WHF who wants to get shots off. That's not how I see him.

I'd have Kevin Small at 11, that's just a personal opinion. And SON in a wing half back position. Dermot for me is better at 10 or 12, he has got good feet for getting scores and will work all day!

There's no need to panic. Transition we may be in, and without doubt it could be a hard year. But I will settle for that if Andy has a settled and new team in place this time next year and ultimately leaves us in a better position than he finds us. We should all get fully behind him from the start.

Just my opinion, others will no doubt differ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 09, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Andy is definitely looking for a physical type of player, one who can cover big yardage. On top of that he is coming in at a time when natural squad leaders have moved on Mick, Conor, Ricky amongst others.

That's going to mean a whole new dynamic, and that takes time. Who are the natural leaders in the squad now?

It's great to see Dommo Mc Enhill get a chance after a horrible experience under previous management where he didn't kick a single ball all year. He's stepped up and great to see it.

Aghagallon two Adam and Ruairi still to come into the mix, Paddy Mc Aleer, Jamie Gribben, Declan Lynch there too as an option for full back.

There's a panel there for sure, but also there's an urgency to get 15 in right positions with 3 or 4 reliable subs and a game plan to suit. You can't play both Ryan and Pat at 13, so that needs sorted. Two completely different type of players.

Then there's corner back. Two vital positions and Paddy Mc Cormack and Peter Healy can fill those,  we know that from experience.

Midfield - CS needs to go back in there as first phase ball winner as opposed you a galloping WHF who wants to get shots off. That's not how I see him.

I'd have Kevin Small at 11, that's just a personal opinion. And SON in a wing half back position. Dermot for me is better at 10 or 12, he has got good feet for getting scores.

There's no need to panic. Transition we nay be in, and without doubt it could be a hard year. But I will settle for that if Andy has a settled and new team in place this time nextvyear and ultimately leaves us in a better position than he finds us. We should all get fully behind him from the start.

Just my opinion, others will no doubt differ.


I think we are all behind him but if he's going to experiment surely he shouldn't have picked the exact same 15 that performed poorly v Armagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 09, 2023, 01:18:08 PM
I didn't get to Armagh but I watched online. I attended yesterdays game. Seems McEntees player of choice is a tall player regardless of footballing ability. Finnegan at centre back or the big lad Dowling aren't intercounty standard footballers, and never will be either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:24:08 PM
Over 30 players got game time across both games and I'm sure the ones who didn't aren't over the moon about that. If I was Andy I'd be scheduling four or five in house games (Probables V Possibles) and driving this as hard as possible to allow a first team to evolve and a panel to form organically on who is in form and catching the eye. Be surprised if that's not the agenda for next three or four weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 01:24:27 PM
No such as not inter county standard in football any more.

It is not a game of skill in the main, get a load of big fit lads who can run.

Have a couple of skilful lads up front and rely on them. Seems to be the blueprint in most counties outside of the top 3/4.

Sure arent a load of even club teams telling their own players to not shoot, even when in position  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 09, 2023, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 01:24:27 PM
No such as not inter county standard in football any more.

It is not a game of skill in the main, get a load of big fit lads who can run.

Have a couple of skilful lads up front and rely on them. Seems to be the blueprint in most counties outside of the top 3/4.

Sure arent a load of even club teams telling their own players to not shoot, even when in position  ;)
Intercounty standard was probably the wrong way of saying it, just not good enough is what I meant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2023, 01:31:32 PM
Be keen to hear peoples best 25 in the county that are available for selection

Would sort out most of the above conversation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:58:08 PM
Well don't be shy MR2.. lol.

Andy might have to look at a dozen newbies to catch just two ir three that fit the bill. We need to give him space to do that without judging every move.

EOC I'm uneasy about saying publicly who's not good enough. These are all amateurs making a huge commitment.  If we trust the process the cream will rise to the top.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 09, 2023, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:58:08 PM
Well don't be shy MR2.. lol.

Andy might have to look at a dozen newbies to catch just two ir three that fit the bill. We need to give him space to do that without judging every move.

EOC I'm uneasy about saying publicly who's not good enough. These are all amateurs making a huge commitment.  If we trust the process the cream will rise to the top.
M Byrne
P McCormick
D Lynch
Cahir Donnelly
D McAleese
Sean O Neill
Marc Jordan
Conor Stewart
Kevin Small
R Murray
Ruairi McCann
Jamie Gribbin
O Eastwood
R McCann (Aghagllon)
P Shivers

This would be my team from what is available for selection, young Cahir can step up from the U20s
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 02:05:08 PM
And for what it's worth J Finnegan has very few miles on the clock, was on Ulster rugby development squad for much of his teenage years then went travelling. imo is open to vast improvement in the right hands.

There are many who either didn't see or didn't appreciate the talent of Owen Gallagher. Very lightly used in Saffron but held in high esteem in Galway football circles. Obviously some coach knew how to get the best from his big frame and powerful direct running style.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 09, 2023, 02:14:29 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 09, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Andy is definitely looking for a physical type of player, one who can cover big yardage. On top of that he is coming in at a time when natural squad leaders have moved on Mick, Conor, Ricky amongst others.

That's going to mean a whole new dynamic, and that takes time. Who are the natural leaders in the squad now?

It's great to see Dommo Mc Enhill get a chance after a horrible experience under previous management where he didn't kick a single ball all year. He's stepped up and great to see it.

Aghagallon two Adam and Ruairi still to come into the mix, Paddy Mc Aleer, Jamie Gribben, Declan Lynch there too as an option for full back.

There's a panel there for sure, but also there's an urgency to get 15 in right positions with 3 or 4 reliable subs and a game plan to suit. You can't play both Ryan and Pat at 13, so that needs sorted. Two completely different type of players.

Then there's corner back. Two vital positions and Paddy Mc Cormack and Peter Healy can fill those,  we know that from experience.

Midfield - CS needs to go back in there as first phase ball winner as opposed you a galloping WHF who wants to get shots off. That's not how I see him.

I'd have Kevin Small at 11, that's just a personal opinion. And SON in a wing half back position. Dermot for me is better at 10 or 12, he has got good feet for getting scores.

There's no need to panic. Transition we nay be in, and without doubt it could be a hard year. But I will settle for that if Andy has a settled and new team in place this time nextvyear and ultimately leaves us in a better position than he finds us. We should all get fully behind him from the start.

Just my opinion, others will no doubt differ.


I think we are all behind him but if he's going to experiment surely he shouldn't have picked the exact same 15 that performed poorly v Armagh

Jesus wept  ::) he didn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 09, 2023, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Andy is definitely looking for a physical type of player, one who can cover big yardage. On top of that he is coming in at a time when natural squad leaders have moved on Mick, Conor, Ricky amongst others.

That's going to mean a whole new dynamic, and that takes time. Who are the natural leaders in the squad now?

It's great to see Dommo Mc Enhill get a chance after a horrible experience under previous management where he didn't kick a single ball all year. He's stepped up and great to see it.

Aghagallon two Adam and Ruairi still to come into the mix, Paddy Mc Aleer, Jamie Gribben, Declan Lynch there too as an option for full back.

There's a panel there for sure, but also there's an urgency to get 15 in right positions with 3 or 4 reliable subs and a game plan to suit. You can't play both Ryan and Pat at 13, so that needs sorted. Two completely different type of players.

Then there's corner back. Two vital positions and Paddy Mc Cormack and Peter Healy can fill those,  we know that from experience.

Midfield - CS needs to go back in there as first phase ball winner as opposed you a galloping WHF who wants to get shots off. That's not how I see him.

I'd have Kevin Small at 11, that's just a personal opinion. And SON in a wing half back position. Dermot for me is better at 10 or 12, he has got good feet for getting scores and will work all day!

There's no need to panic. Transition we may be in, and without doubt it could be a hard year. But I will settle for that if Andy has a settled and new team in place this time next year and ultimately leaves us in a better position than he finds us. We should all get fully behind him from the start.

Just my opinion, others will no doubt differ.

I would agree with alot of this BS. If things go tits up with Andy this year I'm getting the club to nominate you next year  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 03:11:41 PM
Fair play you put a team up at least EOC...and you got your man in as well! Jamie a goodun alright, just needs a good run without injury and he's definitely in the mix.

Paddy Mc Aleer also an option for full back, even though he won't thank me! Got the hands, the man marking and the football ability to get a few good years out of him in there.

To your team EOC I'd have Adam and Dommo a bit further up the pecking order, and I rate Eoghan Mc Cabe as a tidy footballer but please not as corner back. Always rated Conor Small too but he's gone off the radar a bit, maybe a fresh start under new management would help.

Agree about Cahir Donnelly, he can push Peter Healy or Paddy Mc C for a starting berth in the corner. A cert for the future and I like Conall Mc Girr too as a prospect but he's a year or two out atm.

We have a panel for sure, it's sorting the deck chairs out in the right order.  Andy will probably not get it spot on for a while, so we need to be patient. He's the guy picking the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 03:26:08 PM
On another topic altogether, I was talking to St Brigids chairman yesterday, the gentleman that is Eunan Conway, and got an inside track on the latest developments regarding the Downey brothers.

St Brigids official position is that they are in no way out to poach players, in fact they are doing whatever they can to facilitate an in house settlement in Lavey. No official inter county transfer request has been received and from what I gather should that happen (in the event of Lavey not reaching an in-house settlement) then should an official approach be received by St Brigids, their committee would then officially discuss it -  if and when appropriate - and the feeling is the club would prefer to stick to its own in house juvenile development structure.

Which is fair play to St Brigids in my book and Cargins too if there were initial discussions there as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:28:05 PM
Why would St Brigids be helping to facilitate an in house settlement in Lavey ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 03:39:43 PM
Maybe as part of the GAA brotherhood Kidder. This runs very deep so best to let those actively involved sort it out. Some things are more important than football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 09, 2023, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 03:26:08 PM
On another topic altogether, I was talking to St Brigids chairman yesterday, the gentleman that is Eunan Conway, and got an inside track on the latest developments regarding the Downey brothers.

St Brigids official position is that they are in no way out to poach players, in fact they are doing whatever they can to facilitate an in house settlement in Lavey. No official inter county transfer request has been received and from what I gather should that happen (in the event of Lavey not reaching an in-house settlement) then should an official approach be received by St Brigids, their committee would then officially discuss it -  if and when appropriate - and the feeling is the club would prefer to stick to its own in house juvenile development structure.

Which is fair play to St Brigids in my book and Cargins too if there were initial discussions there as well.
I'm sure Lavey dont need the help of another club to sort out an internal fallout. The Downey lads will be going nowhere, new chairman in place and two good Lavey men in charge of their senior team now. No way they will make that step down, Cargin were never involved in this despite what other posters might indicate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2023, 04:14:09 PM
Have been involved with internal disputes with lads at a time years ago, its mentally draining and sometimes not worth the effort, if your heart is not in it then it will always lead to discord within the team, never any winners.

So hopefully these lads will find some sort of resolution and be comfortable with their call and row in behind the new set up..

If not Naomh Gall are interested  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 04:26:00 PM
St Galls surely will have a resurgence down the tracks. Too much pedigree floating about that club not to have a few chips of the old blocks in years to come. Just need to get the right men involved and I'm sure that's in situ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 09, 2023, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 09, 2023, 01:18:08 PM
I didn't get to Armagh but I watched online. I attended yesterdays game. Seems McEntees player of choice is a tall player regardless of footballing ability. Finnegan at centre back or the big lad Dowling aren't intercounty standard footballers, and never will be either.

Not too name names because it's unfair but I counted 5 players who aren't county standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2023, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 09, 2023, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 09, 2023, 01:18:08 PM
I didn't get to Armagh but I watched online. I attended yesterdays game. Seems McEntees player of choice is a tall player regardless of footballing ability. Finnegan at centre back or the big lad Dowling aren't intercounty standard footballers, and never will be either.

Not too name names because it's unfair but I counted 5 players who aren't county standard.

If you watched us against Cavan in the championship last year I could name 15 that weren't county standard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wolfetones on January 09, 2023, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 03:26:08 PM
On another topic altogether, I was talking to St Brigids chairman yesterday, the gentleman that is Eunan Conway, and got an inside track on the latest developments regarding the Downey brothers.

St Brigids official position is that they are in no way out to poach players, in fact they are doing whatever they can to facilitate an in house settlement in Lavey. No official inter county transfer request has been received and from what I gather should that happen (in the event of Lavey not reaching an in-house settlement) then should an official approach be received by St Brigids, their committee would then officially discuss it -  if and when appropriate - and the feeling is the club would prefer to stick to its own in house juvenile development structure.

Which is fair play to St Brigids in my book and Cargins too if there were initial discussions there as well.

And I'm sure Eunan is delighted for you to broadcast all that to the world.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 09:28:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 03:39:43 PM
Maybe as part of the GAA brotherhood Kidder. This runs very deep so best to let those actively involved sort it out. Some things are more important than football.

Ah come on that's absolute nonsense, so St Brigids, who have been heavily linked with these two players transferring to them are mediating but have no interest in taking them ?

I have never heard the like of that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 09:54:57 PM
What I'm saying is St Brigids don't have an official position on it, and for the removal of any doubt they are not proactively encouraging this. Their preferred solution is its sorted out in Lavey and with a new management team and chairman. Should it not be sorted out in Lavey its not a given that St Brigids will facilitate it as many in their club prefer to develop their own players. That's all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 09, 2023, 09:54:57 PM
What I'm saying is St Brigids don't have an official position on it, and for the removal of any doubt they are not proactively encouraging this. Their preferred solution is its sorted out in Lavey and with a new management team and chairman. Should it not be sorted out in Lavey its not a given that St Brigids will facilitate it as many in their club prefer to develop their own players. That's all.

Fair enough but I would edit your post above

"in fact they are doing whatever they can to facilitate an in house settlement in Lavey"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 09, 2023, 10:21:37 PM
Fair enough I could have worded it better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:00:08 AM
1) Mick Byrne (great young Keeper) but Jinny McNabb should be in that panel and team.

2) Patrick McCormick
3) Paddy McAleer
4) Peter Healy

5) Dermot McAleese
6) Eoghan McCabe
7) Sean O'Neill

8) Kevin Small
9) Marc Jordan

10) Jamie Gribben
11) Pat Shivers
12) Patrick McBride

13) Dominic McEnhill
14) Ryan Murray
15) Odhran Eastwood

I would go with this. There are good footballers and good balance throughout each line. McAleer is a gamble worth taking at full back. Jamie Gribben can provide great cover and intelligence as a sweeper when required. McEnhill can drop out to half forward and Shivers and Murray can rotate positions throughout the game. I for one am really looking forward to the Offaly game to see who we have back for selection and who McEntee goes with. We should be well enough equipped to keep our heads above Longford, Fermanagh and Tipperary this year and if we do, it's a positive year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:00:08 AM
1) Mick Byrne (great young Keeper) but Jinny McNabb should be in that panel and team.

2) Patrick McCormick
3) Paddy McAleer
4) Peter Healy

5) Dermot McAleese
6) Eoghan McCabe
7) Sean O'Neill

8) Kevin Small
9) Marc Jordan

10) Jamie Gribben
11) Pat Shivers
12) Patrick McBride

13) Dominic McEnhill
14) Ryan Murray
15) Odhran Eastwood

I would go with this. There are good footballers and good balance throughout each line. McAleer is a gamble worth taking at full back. Jamie Gribben can provide great cover and intelligence as a sweeper when required. McEnhill can drop out to half forward and Shivers and Murray can rotate positions throughout the game. I for one am really looking forward to the Offaly game to see who we have back for selection and who McEntee goes with. We should be well enough equipped to keep our heads above Longford, Fermanagh and Tipperary this year and if we do, it's a positive year.

No R McCann Creggan? no established free taker? Was McNabb interested?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
 :o I left Ruairi out! Sorry, he would have to go in ahead of McEnhill sorry, but McEnhill has looked very promising and will add hugely this year assuming this regime use him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:00:08 AM
1) Mick Byrne (great young Keeper) but Jinny McNabb should be in that panel and team.

2) Patrick McCormick
3) Paddy McAleer
4) Peter Healy

5) Dermot McAleese
6) Eoghan McCabe
7) Sean O'Neill

8) Kevin Small
9) Marc Jordan

10) Jamie Gribben
11) Pat Shivers
12) Patrick McBride

13) Dominic McEnhill
14) Ryan Murray
15) Odhran Eastwood

I would go with this. There are good footballers and good balance throughout each line. McAleer is a gamble worth taking at full back. Jamie Gribben can provide great cover and intelligence as a sweeper when required. McEnhill can drop out to half forward and Shivers and Murray can rotate positions throughout the game. I for one am really looking forward to the Offaly game to see who we have back for selection and who McEntee goes with. We should be well enough equipped to keep our heads above Longford, Fermanagh and Tipperary this year and if we do, it's a positive year.

No R McCann Creggan? no established free taker? Was McNabb interested?

Complete oversight on Ruairi MR2! Big Shivers, Ryan Murray and Paddy McBride are all established free takers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:07:59 AM
McEnhill doesn't look too bad on the frees either should he start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 10, 2023, 10:10:49 AM
No room at the Inn for the Aghagallon men as per
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:11:22 AM
Yeah they are good free takers no doubt, feel Ruairi is better open play also, he has proved in big games along with big Pat that they have that, are they both left footers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 10, 2023, 10:10:49 AM
No room at the Inn for the Aghagallon men as per

Loughran for me all day long Jim, but is he not longer term injury? My team is based on potential line-out for the offaly game at the end of the month
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 10, 2023, 10:10:49 AM
No room at the Inn for the Aghagallon men as per

I was always a big fan of jamie lamont at club level as well Jim. I'm not sure if he's involved this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 10, 2023, 10:37:45 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 10, 2023, 10:10:49 AM
No room at the Inn for the Aghagallon men as per

I was always a big fan of jamie lamont at club level as well Jim. I'm not sure if he's involved this year?

Jamie wasn't asked. Big Oisin had only one training since our championship final and played the full game against Armagh. He's a good footballer but just needs some time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 10, 2023, 11:20:31 AM
1. Mick Byrne
2. Patrick McCormick
3.
4. Peter Healy
5. Dermot McAleese
6. James Laverty
7. Ronan Boyle
8. Kevin Small
9. Kevin Rice
10. Marc Jordan
11. Ruairi McCann
12. Patrick McBride
13. Dominic McEnhill
14. Conor Small
15. Adam Loughran

With everyone fully fit, this would be my pick.
Haven't listed a #3 as fullback is a problem position and genuinely not sure what the best solution would be. Niche position so reluctant to shoehorn a player from a different position into full back.
Would love to be able to add Niall Delargy and Matt Fitzpatrick to this team too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 11:32:01 AM
The year Kevin O'Boyle has had with Cargin it would be a dream to coax him back for another year or two at full back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 11:44:15 AM
Plus one, or into a corner and allow Peter Healy to go whb. Kobo had a class year, still one of the best performers in the county. Justin Crozier could also be an option for FB but for a bit of tenure it would either be coax Ricky back or see who goes best between Paddy Mc Aleer or young Hynds who was thrown in at the deep end and it would be harsh to judge his overall ability on two performances in a position that I imagine are alien to him. And to be fair he wasn't stand out sub standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 10, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
Anyone know if the following available...Johnston brothers? Mccanns? Conor murray? Laverty? Decky lynch.  Need boys like that in the team.

Kobo was brilliant this year. Looked fit as ever. Would be some asset to have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 10, 2023, 01:25:27 PM
Kobo is 35, you didnt mention Mick or Tomas but they are 35 and 37. Cant keep reverting back to these players if we want a plan long term. Plus we need them fit for the club season  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 01:40:24 PM
JS, what's the story with big Eunan? Would definitely
be thereabouts on my team...he isn't on the panel!

He's another who got a raw deal with previous management who filled his head full of empty promises (week after week) about game time that never materialised. I thought under fresh management he was tailor made for the next few years!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on January 10, 2023, 02:34:28 PM
Yep big Eunan is certainly another you wouldn't turn away! Big McCann and young Mcguinness the half back are others from aghagallon I would have in the panel and pushing for starts. but who of those are there (or due to come in)?

I agree with you about Hynds BS. I, like many others across both games, felt he was hung out to dry by others who should have been filing back. Pace, power and the athleticism and is he only18/19? Promising, but not ready just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 10, 2023, 03:09:49 PM
BS physically Eunan has it but we are all still waiting to see if mentally he can step up in the the big matches. He has been around the county setup for a number of years now. Your excuse may suit Eunan and yourself, but there is a sizeable difference between mauling St Enda's at home on a Wednesday night in the Antrim league and battling for every square inch of space against an Armagh, which the last 3 managers required. Hopefully McEntee has the man management skills to get these performances out of Eunan, should he return, as he has all the skills required.  Personally think some others in the Aghagallon squad were worth giving a call to. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 03:34:09 PM
Big Frank from Aghagallon has already got a call up for a county set up ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 10, 2023, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 03:34:09 PM
Big Frank from Aghagallon has already got a call up for a county set up ;)

Pacy wee thing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 05:34:05 PM
The point you make Spike is valid to an extent, but Eunan stepped up rightly to score the wonder point that took the points home from Louth that got us ultimately into Div 3. I think you mean 2 managers, not 3. Lenny brought him in, and imo he was in a year or two early, but he has physically got what it takes and a manager who believes in him (ie gives him confidence to be able to play his way through the odd mistake) would yield a sizeable dividend. Anyway he's not there atm so this is hypothetical.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 07:02:17 PM
Was someone saying there wasn't one Antrim lad on the sigerson teams? I see 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 10, 2023, 07:11:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 07:02:17 PM
Was someone saying there wasn't one Antrim lad on the sigerson teams? I see 3
Me.  Think I see 4 or 5 across the Queens and UU squads now that I've put my glasses on!  Couple of lads at best in the MacRory quarters.  Those squads are teaming with players from other counties . Good luck to the few lads who are involved, but it's a big hole in our pipeline. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 07:29:11 PM
Two 11's but yes we are short at that level, I've seen these teams close up in games before they hit sigerson when UU get to this level there are players that turn up later, I take it UU is a combination of all the UU colleges?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 07:32:46 PM
Jamie Lamont was on the seconds of UUJ one game I did, and a lad from our club, but the panel they have is massive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 07:51:53 PM
Watching it here live. Two starters Patrick Finnegan and Dominic Mc Enhill, both at 11. Plus three subs out of 2 x 35 man panels. Level at HT.

I recall being at a Sigerson final between the two, circa 2006, and I reckon there were 8 starters and 6 subs. Not sure we really made the most of that talent tbh. Yes we pushed Kerry to their limit in 09 with most of these players featuring, but I always thought there was more in this group.

Anyone name the Antrim players in that final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 08:08:16 PM
Mcgourty McCann for starters?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 08:40:23 PM
Micko for sure. Andy Mc Clean..Possibly Brendan too? Tomas or James Loughrey, Deaghlan O Hagan??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 08:53:20 PM
McCann started late that year and would have been a definite starter had he went all year. I thought Tomas was floating round that year too? Micko Herron was a decent singer son footballer.

Queens always seem better than the sum of their parts and jordanstown too many individuals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 08:54:50 PM
Fair enough Duine. Thought Aidso and Pol Doc and a few others had started, but there you go.

Anyone who thinks Paddy Finnegan is not close to county standard would have to agree he looked very comfortable in that company tonight, hardly put a foot wrong and was on the ball a lot.

Anyone want to take a go at when the last two Antrim players to play in a Sigerson final? Hint. It was only a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 10, 2023, 09:02:34 PM
Matt Fitzpatrick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 10, 2023, 09:12:08 PM
Year was 2020. DCU v NUIG.
Peter Healy v Owen Gallagher.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 10, 2023, 10:00:29 PM
Was chatting to a Maghera man today in Magherafelt, said Glen have only been asked one serious question  in championship this season.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:01:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 10, 2023, 10:00:29 PM
Was chatting to a Maghera man today in Magherafelt, said Glen have only been asked one serious question  in championship this season.....

S'neil?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 10, 2023, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 10, 2023, 10:00:29 PM
Was chatting to a Maghera man today in Magherafelt, said Glen have only been asked one serious question  in championship this season.....

Moycullen ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 10, 2023, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:01:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 10, 2023, 10:00:29 PM
Was chatting to a Maghera man today in Magherafelt, said Glen have only been asked one serious question  in championship this season.....

S'neil?



Slaughtneil were stuffed for 2nd year on the bounce so id doubt that MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 11:00:28 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 10, 2023, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:01:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 10, 2023, 10:00:29 PM
Was chatting to a Maghera man today in Magherafelt, said Glen have only been asked one serious question  in championship this season.....

S'neil?



Slaughtneil were stuffed for 2nd year on the bounce so id doubt that MR2

Simples ... Swatragh only lost by two so they along with MC gave them their best game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 10, 2023, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 10, 2023, 11:20:31 AM
1. Mick Byrne
2. Patrick McCormick
3.
4. Peter Healy
5. Dermot McAleese
6. James Laverty
7. Ronan Boyle
8. Kevin Small
9. Kevin Rice
10. Marc Jordan
11. Ruairi McCann
12. Patrick McBride
13. Dominic McEnhill
14. Conor Small
15. Adam Loughran

With everyone fully fit, this would be my pick.
Haven't listed a #3 as fullback is a problem position and genuinely not sure what the best solution would be. Niche position so reluctant to shoehorn a player from a different position into full back.
Would love to be able to add Niall Delargy and Matt Fitzpatrick to this team too.

What about Jamie Lamont at full back? Hogan Cup winner worth a go

Where is Liam Quinn ?when at McCrory he was unmarkable

Roman Boyle has  a touch of the Loughrey about him and could kick on massively in the next few years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 11, 2023, 08:50:59 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 10, 2023, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 10, 2023, 10:00:29 PM
Was chatting to a Maghera man today in Magherafelt, said Glen have only been asked one serious question  in championship this season.....

Moycullen ?

Naw he said it was Cargin, but undoubtedly such was a wee bit of flattery..........
MR2 has been an avid follower......first man at the Omagh venue.....reminiscing on glory days....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 11, 2023, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: Gold on January 10, 2023, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 10, 2023, 11:20:31 AM
1. Mick Byrne
2. Patrick McCormick
3.
4. Peter Healy
5. Dermot McAleese
6. James Laverty
7. Ronan Boyle
8. Kevin Small
9. Kevin Rice
10. Marc Jordan
11. Ruairi McCann
12. Patrick McBride
13. Dominic McEnhill
14. Conor Small
15. Adam Loughran

With everyone fully fit, this would be my pick.
Haven't listed a #3 as fullback is a problem position and genuinely not sure what the best solution would be. Niche position so reluctant to shoehorn a player from a different position into full back.
Would love to be able to add Niall Delargy and Matt Fitzpatrick to this team too.

What about Jamie Lamont at full back? Hogan Cup winner worth a go

Where is Liam Quinn ?when at McCrory he was unmarkable

Roman Boyle has  a touch of the Loughrey about him and could kick on massively in the next few years

I don't know enough about Jamie Lamont but hopefully he turns out to be a good option for us. Most difficult position on the pitch.
No doubting Liam Quinn's talent but has been badly hindered by injuries the last few years.
Ronan Boyle has impressed the few times I have seen him. Definitely county material.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 11, 2023, 11:50:05 AM
There are dozens of players who turned out to be great county players without setting the world on fire at 20. Too early to say whether those guys are good club players or indeed county standard,  but they deserve the space to develop accordingly without being judged harshly on here.

Re Sean O Neill - different gravy in my book. When he departed the play due to injury Aghagallon opened up a large lead in the county final. When SON came back on in the second half he was instrumental in Cargins recovery. I think he could start for us in the championship.

Andy Mc's mate lol. You're good craic G&T.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 11, 2023, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on January 11, 2023, 10:21:45 AM
C Hynds is 21,same as Boyle,let's be brutally honest,they are nowhere near county standard,as for Sean O Neill,no doubting his class but to expect him to be starting as well is madness( his time will come) especially when Bannside says his mate Andy Mc prefers big strong men that can run all day
Sean O Neill in top 3 Cargin players in terms of importance to the the team winning, young player of the year last season in Antrim, coming 22 years old. IMO one of the best players in Antrim never mind best young players. Will be bizarre if he's not an automatic starter in the NFL
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2023, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 11, 2023, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on January 11, 2023, 10:21:45 AM
C Hynds is 21,same as Boyle,let's be brutally honest,they are nowhere near county standard,as for Sean O Neill,no doubting his class but to expect him to be starting as well is madness( his time will come) especially when Bannside says his mate Andy Mc prefers big strong men that can run all day
Sean O Neill in top 3 Cargin players in terms of importance to the the team winning, young player of the year last season in Antrim, coming 22 years old. IMO one of the best players in Antrim never mind best young players. Will be bizarre if he's not an automatic starter in the NFL

Do you think physical wise he's up for the challenge at the minute? I'm not in any way saying his skills are not county standard, quality player and as you said one of the best players last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 11, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
Sean og, is coming 21...
From good stock, Ciaran O' Neill / Sinead Mc Cann..Ann's agree with EOC will be surprised if he does not occupy a start berth come the league..

We are 20/1 to win Div 3.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 11, 2023, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 11, 2023, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on January 11, 2023, 10:21:45 AM
C Hynds is 21,same as Boyle,let's be brutally honest,they are nowhere near county standard,as for Sean O Neill,no doubting his class but to expect him to be starting as well is madness( his time will come) especially when Bannside says his mate Andy Mc prefers big strong men that can run all day
Sean O Neill in top 3 Cargin players in terms of importance to the the team winning, young player of the year last season in Antrim, coming 22 years old. IMO one of the best players in Antrim never mind best young players. Will be bizarre if he's not an automatic starter in the NFL
I suppose it will take McEntee more than a few weeks to get to know the scene and what he has and what he hasn't.  The quality players should catch his eye eventually. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 12, 2023, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 11, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
Sean og, is coming 21...
From good stock, Ciaran O' Neill / Sinead Mc Cann..Ann's agree with EOC will be surprised if he does not occupy a start berth come the league..

We are 20/1 to win Div 3.....

What price for relegation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 12, 2023, 08:30:37 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 12, 2023, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 11, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
Sean og, is coming 21...
From good stock, Ciaran O' Neill / Sinead Mc Cann..Ann's agree with EOC will be surprised if he does not occupy a start berth come the league..

We are 20/1 to win Div 3.....

What price for relegation?

Did not make such enquiry.
Such is beyond comprehension ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2023, 02:59:34 PM
Was thi Year mckenna cup performance better or worse than previous ones ? Seem about the same to me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 13, 2023, 10:16:28 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2023, 02:59:34 PM
Was thi Year mckenna cup performance better or worse than previous ones ? Seem about the same to me

We beat Down last year in Newry and pushed Donegal in Portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 13, 2023, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 13, 2023, 02:59:34 PM
Was thi Year mckenna cup performance better or worse than previous ones ? Seem about the same to me

Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 14, 2023, 05:28:38 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 14, 2023, 11:42:57 PM
Aquinas and St. Louis through to 1/4 of McLarnon. The Belfast lads are very strong and could go the whole way. St Malachy won the mcdevitt cup yesterday and will play in A ulster next year, a few positives in the youth of the city.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2023, 09:43:20 AM
Maybe Duine but let's grab the positives here with two hands. St Malachys into Grade A competition for first time in many years is one. If an Antrim college claim Mc Larnon that would also be the first in quite a while.

There's obviously renewed impetus, probably fuelled by Gaelfast initiative, and any green shoots are most welcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 15, 2023, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 15, 2023, 09:43:20 AM
Maybe Duine but let's grab the positives here with two hands. St Malachys into Grade A competition for first time in many years is one. If an Antrim college claim Mc Larnon that would also be the first in quite a while.

There's obviously renewed impetus, probably fuelled by Gaelfast initiative, and any green shoots are most welcome.

Yeah nothing to do with the clubs producing players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2023, 10:43:55 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 15, 2023, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 15, 2023, 09:43:20 AM
Maybe Duine but let's grab the positives here with two hands. St Malachys into Grade A competition for first time in many years is one. If an Antrim college claim Mc Larnon that would also be the first in quite a while.

There's obviously renewed impetus, probably fuelled by Gaelfast initiative, and any green shoots are most welcome.

Yeah nothing to do with the clubs producing players

These clubs have producing the same players without any real success at school level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 15, 2023, 06:00:47 PM
Aquinas v Rathmore in McClarnon QF this coming week. Not sure about Gaelfast but in both cases the school teams are backboned by club players who have been well coached in their clubs from P1. Plenty of Antrim clubs represented in both school teams, and Down too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 15, 2023, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 15, 2023, 06:00:47 PM
Aquinas v Rathmore in McClarnon QF this coming week. Not sure about Gaelfast but in both cases the school teams are backboned by club players who have been well coached in their clubs from P1. Plenty of Antrim clubs represented in both school teams, and Down too.

Yep, it's totally clutching at straws to try and credit Gaelfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 15, 2023, 08:06:57 PM
They've a lot of Bredagh players every year. But depends how many soccer heads are in a school year.  GAA isn't not number 1in many of these schools and not the reason lads go there like a Omagh CBS or Maghera so yes, every year will be different, some will have more fruit than the last
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 15, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
The staff involved are putting in a huge effort, like many other schools I am sure. Suppose every year is different, given the crop of players available at any one time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2023, 09:21:44 PM
Of course it's not all down to Gaelfast, but some of their initiatives,  including year 8 and year 10 inter schools competitions have pushed the GAA agenda in schools a bit higher up the list than in previous years. I don't think anyone can doubt that.

But clubs is where the vast majority of juvenile development should be taking place over a ten or fifteen year period. School activity is a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 15, 2023, 10:25:00 PM
Yes - agree with that 100%
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 15, 2023, 11:40:34 PM
St Mal's year 10 team played the convent Mfelt the week after winning the Antrim cup, they lost by 1 point, only a challenge game , but showed they can compete at the top level when the work is done in house by coaches,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 17, 2023, 03:19:10 PM
Who's everyone's early picks for 2023 championship?
Here's mine
Senior: Aghagallon - I think they're sick of heart breaking defeats and this season will be now or never for them if they want to keep players motivated.
Intermediate: All Saints - win or DIE for the Ballymena men. If a trophy doesn't come back to Slemish park this year I'm convinced Baker will leave. And the saints will be back to the drawing board
Junior: who gives a rats a*se
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 17, 2023, 03:22:58 PM
I think it will depend on the draw as to whether Aghagallon even get to the final, if they avoid the big two on the way they can and anything can happen in the final. For me it is hard to look past the big 2, PG1 and Cargin for senior

Intermediate- Is Baker staying another year with All Saints, I thought they would go for a younger man with a fresher out look on the game. For me I can see Glenravel getting over the line this year

Junior- who knows, depends who the Belfast teams get out for me


quote author=Southwestsaffs link=topic=21.msg2173635#msg2173635 date=1673968750]
Who's everyone's early picks for 2023 championship?
Here's mine
Senior: Aghagallon - I think they're sick of heart breaking defeats and this season will be now or never for them if they want to keep players motivated.
Intermediate: All Saints - win or DIE for the Ballymena men. If a trophy doesn't come back to Slemish park this year I'm convinced Baker will leave. And the saints will be back to the drawing board
Junior: who gives a rats a*se
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 17, 2023, 05:02:19 PM
I'd say you're right about aghagallon now that I think about it, draw is important for them.
Would like to see PG1 finally win a championship but at the same time it's clear Cargin are nowhere near done.

Baker is taking pre season trainings with all saints so I can only guess he's there to stay another year and I believe all saints really underperformed last season so the chip on their shoulder could drive them on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SW Ultras on January 17, 2023, 05:05:10 PM
Don't know what Southwest Saffs has processed what has happened in the last year. It's a two way horse race in senior between the two Loughshore teams and that's a fact. Intermediate is always close in any county. Ballymena, Glenravel, Sarsfields all out on their own perhaps. Junior it's a lottery anyways.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 17, 2023, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on January 17, 2023, 03:19:10 PM
Who's everyone's early picks for 2023 championship?
Here's mine
Senior: Aghagallon - I think they're sick of heart breaking defeats and this season will be now or never for them if they want to keep players motivated.
Intermediate: All Saints - win or DIE for the Ballymena men. If a trophy doesn't come back to Slemish park this year I'm convinced Baker will leave. And the saints will be back to the drawing board
Junior: who gives a rats a*se

Baker is staying
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 17, 2023, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 17, 2023, 03:22:58 PM
I think it will depend on the draw as to whether Aghagallon even get to the final, if they avoid the big two on the way they can and anything can happen in the final. For me it is hard to look past the big 2, PG1 and Cargin for senior

Intermediate- Is Baker staying another year with All Saints, I thought they would go for a younger man with a fresher out look on the game. For me I can see Glenravel getting over the line this year

Junior- who knows, depends who the Belfast teams get out for me


I can see McGrath getting Aghagallon super fit and hitting the ground running and being in contention for winning the league depending on absentees obvs


quote author=Southwestsaffs link=topic=21.msg2173635#msg2173635 date=1673968750]
Who's everyone's early picks for 2023 championship?
Here's mine
Senior: Aghagallon - I think they're sick of heart breaking defeats and this season will be now or never for them if they want to keep players motivated.
Intermediate: All Saints - win or DIE for the Ballymena men. If a trophy doesn't come back to Slemish park this year I'm convinced Baker will leave. And the saints will be back to the drawing board
Junior: who gives a rats a*se
[/quote]
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 17, 2023, 09:20:45 PM
Creggan
PG1
Aghagallon
Cargin

Pick your winner from those and you wont be wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 18, 2023, 10:46:09 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on January 18, 2023, 10:04:31 AM
Can't understand how Baker is still there,brutal discipline inside the wire,lost 5/6 league games in a poor division 2,only win in the championship was against a junior team and got beat in group stages by a team that avoided relegation, and now saffs think they'll win the championship, Ah Jesus, Mary wept

The tactics he played against Aghagallon the league play off were a disgrace. And his discipline let him down that night again!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on January 18, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
I think it is more concerning as to how he is being remunerated at All Saints.

How any one thinks this is the way to go is beyond me.

Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 18, 2023, 02:03:36 PM
Baker not too popular among some on here, must be doing something right in that case  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 18, 2023, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 18, 2023, 02:03:36 PM
Baker not too popular among some on here, must be doing something right in that case  :D

People just don't like seeing others succeed. I followed all saints closely last year as I thought something special was stirring, but I can confidently say the year was a mess. However, respect has to be put on bakers name as he is the only man to bring the saffrons close to success in the 21st century. And we should thank for him for what he did, although it was short lived. And this is why I believe the saints will find form again and this will be due to a mix of up coming players like Shaun 'Christ' O'Callaghan and Ronan 'rhino' McKillop who are both featured in the Antrim u20 team and bakers hunger to succeed on each team he manages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 18, 2023, 02:27:25 PM
As much as I am fond of Baker on a personal level, he is yesterday's man when it comes to the modern game


Quote from: Southwestsaffs on January 18, 2023, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 18, 2023, 02:03:36 PM
Baker not too popular among some on here, must be doing something right in that case  :D

People just don't like seeing others succeed. I followed all saints closely last year as I thought something special was stirring, but I can confidently say the year was a mess. However, respect has to be put on bakers name as he is the only man to bring the saffrons close to success in the 21st century. And we should thank for him for what he did, although it was short lived. And this is why I believe the saints will find form again and this will be due to a mix of up coming players like Shaun 'Christ' O'Callaghan and Ronan 'rhino' McKillop who are both featured in the Antrim u20 team and bakers hunger to succeed on each team he manages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 18, 2023, 02:51:01 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 18, 2023, 02:03:36 PM
Baker not too popular among some on here, must be doing something right in that case  :D

Not the way I see it at all.  I have nothing against the man or Ballymena. But it is well known that his sideline antics are a distraction. I felt sorry for those Ballymena players having to play 15 men behind the ball. There are very good footballers in that Ballymena side and they're sitting in their own half like Donegal from 10 years ago. Horrible to watch and I'd say even worse to play in a team like that. Maybe they will have learned from last year and be more attacking and play to their strengths! If they do, they'll not be too far away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 18, 2023, 04:24:50 PM
Quote from: geezer on January 17, 2023, 09:20:45 PM
Creggan
PG1
Aghagallon
Cargin

Pick your winner from those and you wont be wrong.

Anyone outside those 4 would be a big shock. Creggan gets my vote
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 18, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
I think it is more concerning as to how he is being remunerated at All Saints.

How any one thinks this is the way to go is beyond me.

Crazy stuff.
Dont be mentioning manager pay on here the SW lads are very sensitive about their money tree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:20:53 PM
what clubs to the st mals lads hail from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 18, 2023, 11:16:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 18, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
I think it is more concerning as to how he is being remunerated at All Saints.

How any one thinks this is the way to go is beyond me.

Crazy stuff.
Dont be mentioning manager pay on here the SW lads are very sensitive about their money tree

I wouldn't say much about south west Antrim at the minute lad were single handedly carrying the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 19, 2023, 11:10:04 AM
SW clubs strive to get the most out of extremely limited population resources whether that be facilities, schools or coaching. Forever punching well above their weight.  No quick fixes and thats the reality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 19, 2023, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 19, 2023, 11:10:04 AM
SW clubs strive to get the most out of extremely limited population resources whether that be facilities, schools or coaching. Forever punching well above their weight.  No quick fixes and thats the reality.

and anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves spike
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 19, 2023, 12:15:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:20:53 PM
what clubs to the st mals lads hail from?

A lot from St Endas from what I could see in the team photo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on January 19, 2023, 01:32:31 PM
Yes a lot of St Endas, then a mixture of other clubs, Ardoyne, Gorts, St Johns, St Galls, Bredagh maybe a few more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2023, 09:24:28 PM
Just like a city club team then, mixture of any club players they can get on any given day 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2023, 09:43:20 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on January 18, 2023, 11:16:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 18, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
I think it is more concerning as to how he is being remunerated at All Saints.

How any one thinks this is the way to go is beyond me.

Crazy stuff.
Dont be mentioning manager pay on here the SW lads are very sensitive about their money tree

I wouldn't say much about south west Antrim at the minute lad were single handedly carrying the county
you aren't carrying it very far lad  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 19, 2023, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 19, 2023, 09:43:20 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on January 18, 2023, 11:16:30 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 18, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
I think it is more concerning as to how he is being remunerated at All Saints.

How any one thinks this is the way to go is beyond me.

Crazy stuff.
Dont be mentioning manager pay on here the SW lads are very sensitive about their money tree

I wouldn't say much about south west Antrim at the minute lad were single handedly carrying the county
you aren't carrying it very far lad  ;)

Cargin represented Antrim in the Ulster championship and gave Glen the all Ireland finalists a good rattle laaaaaad. Dont see belfast teams at that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2023, 08:54:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 20, 2023, 06:17:58 AM
Cargin's decent effort in Ulster is a shared success for all of the SW clubs. Right.

Behave yourself!! It could have been 2 teams from Antrim playing this weekend at Croke, and if your granny had balls she'd be ok nowadays  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on January 20, 2023, 09:54:20 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 19, 2023, 12:15:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 18, 2023, 08:20:53 PM
what clubs to the st mals lads hail from?

A lot from St Endas from what I could see in the team photo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 20, 2023, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 20, 2023, 06:17:58 AM
Cargin's decent effort in Ulster is a shared success for all of the SW clubs. Right.

whats thon supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 20, 2023, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 20, 2023, 03:20:16 PM
It means that Cargin's success belongs solely to them and it would be pathetic for any other club to try and piggyback as a wider collective.

but did i say that though? Cargins success belong to the people of toome/wider area. NEVER try to put words in my mouth, we are good GAA people and do not need others to stir the spot...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 20, 2023, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2023, 08:54:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 20, 2023, 06:17:58 AM
Cargin's decent effort in Ulster is a shared success for all of the SW clubs. Right.

Behave yourself!! It could have been 2 teams from Antrim playing this weekend at Croke, and if your granny had balls she'd be ok nowadays  ;D

Why weren't you at referees awards night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on January 20, 2023, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 20, 2023, 03:50:36 PM
Then NEVER use it as an example of SW carrying the county single-handedly.

It's Cargin's success.

Cargins success was only an example of the work that south west Antrim put in to promote the county. I can go into further detail if you would like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 20, 2023, 07:19:35 PM
John Brennan is to get the reins at Swatragh....to follow Kevin Madden.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 20, 2023, 07:47:19 PM
Why are them 2 not allowed to coach at own clubs ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 20, 2023, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 20, 2023, 07:47:19 PM
Why are them 2 not allowed to coach at own clubs ?

"Speaking the gospel" I believe it's called in newspaper articles  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2023, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 20, 2023, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2023, 08:54:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 20, 2023, 06:17:58 AM
Cargin's decent effort in Ulster is a shared success for all of the SW clubs. Right.

Behave yourself!! It could have been 2 teams from Antrim playing this weekend at Croke, and if your granny had balls she'd be ok nowadays  ;D

Why weren't you at referees awards night?

You mean the inter county referees thing? Do i need to spell that out to you?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 22, 2023, 06:55:11 PM
Financial fair play for GAA lads ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on January 23, 2023, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on January 20, 2023, 07:47:19 PM
Why are them 2 not allowed to coach at own clubs ?

Do you know if they have been barred from coaching at their own clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 23, 2023, 05:31:03 PM
What we make of the Glen/Crokes debacle then lads? Replay it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bogball88 on January 23, 2023, 07:31:11 PM
Any confirmed start date for the league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2023, 08:49:51 PM
Quote from: geezer on January 23, 2023, 05:31:03 PM
What we make of the Glen/Crokes debacle then lads? Replay it?

Surely a replay would be the correct thing to do. The big wigs in Croke have messed this up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on January 23, 2023, 09:21:44 PM
If the shoe was on other foot, Kilmacud would have the appeal in and all...or they would pay Clifford to play for them next year to try win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 23, 2023, 11:08:29 PM
I think it has to be replayed, and leaving it up to Glen to lodge an appeal...what a nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2023, 08:20:14 AM
To stick it up to the GAA they should appeal. They have tried to palm them off by putting the ball in their court and it should be bounced right back to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 24, 2023, 08:47:25 AM
Football leagues starting early March and hurling late March.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 24, 2023, 09:03:13 AM
How early March Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 24, 2023, 09:40:49 AM
Football is March 6th I believe


Quote from: bannside on January 24, 2023, 09:03:13 AM
How early March Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 24, 2023, 10:33:38 AM
This Glen/Killmacud debacle reminds me of the Aghagallon/Portglenone situation a few years ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2023, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 24, 2023, 10:33:38 AM
This Glen/Killmacud debacle reminds me of the Aghagallon/Portglenone situation a few years ago

Jesus don't be starting that up again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on January 24, 2023, 11:01:54 AM
when
Quote from: JimStynes on January 24, 2023, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 24, 2023, 10:33:38 AM
This Glen/Killmacud debacle reminds me of the Aghagallon/Portglenone situation a few years ago

Jesus don't be starting that up again!
the Armagh men cheated to get to a Antrim Final JS ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 24, 2023, 11:24:40 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on January 24, 2023, 11:01:54 AM
when
Quote from: JimStynes on January 24, 2023, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: Caesar on January 24, 2023, 10:33:38 AM
This Glen/Killmacud debacle reminds me of the Aghagallon/Portglenone situation a few years ago

Jesus don't be starting that up again!
the Armagh men cheated to get to a Antrim Final JS ;)

:-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 24, 2023, 12:11:17 PM
when will fixtures be released?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 24, 2023, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on January 24, 2023, 12:11:17 PM
when will fixtures be released?

The day before it starts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 01:12:09 PM
For some reason every year these posts come up!!

If you are a member of your club, speak to your club Sec. They will have all the information you need on the fixtures... They normally send out on initial list for the clubs Sec's to see if it interferes with any club dates that are fixed for other things, once they are ok'd then the fixtures are sorted.

They are not made public until then, any issues on getting the fixtures out (in my experience) is down to the clubs sorting out their own needs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 24, 2023, 02:26:23 PM
Apologies MR2 for querying something im not familiar with. We dont all have as good a knowledge of these things like yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 24, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
Christ on a bike can the County Board call their guard dog back in

The man asked a simple question

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 01:12:09 PM
For some reason every year these posts come up!!

If you are a member of your club, speak to your club Sec. They will have all the information you need on the fixtures... They normally send out on initial list for the clubs Sec's to see if it interferes with any club dates that are fixed for other things, once they are ok'd then the fixtures are sorted.

They are not made public until then, any issues on getting the fixtures out (in my experience) is down to the clubs sorting out their own needs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 24, 2023, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 24, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
Christ on a bike can the County Board call their guard dog back in

The man asked a simple question

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 01:12:09 PM
For some reason every year these posts come up!!

If you are a member of your club, speak to your club Sec. They will have all the information you need on the fixtures... They normally send out on initial list for the clubs Sec's to see if it interferes with any club dates that are fixed for other things, once they are ok'd then the fixtures are sorted.

They are not made public until then, any issues on getting the fixtures out (in my experience) is down to the clubs sorting out their own needs

Hes just annoyed he didnt get going to the referee's night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 24, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
Christ on a bike can the County Board call their guard dog back in

The man asked a simple question

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 01:12:09 PM
For some reason every year these posts come up!!

If you are a member of your club, speak to your club Sec. They will have all the information you need on the fixtures... They normally send out on initial list for the clubs Sec's to see if it interferes with any club dates that are fixed for other things, once they are ok'd then the fixtures are sorted.

They are not made public until then, any issues on getting the fixtures out (in my experience) is down to the clubs sorting out their own needs

I gave him a simple answer... like I said any clubman would know this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 24, 2023, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 24, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
Christ on a bike can the County Board call their guard dog back in

The man asked a simple question

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 01:12:09 PM
For some reason every year these posts come up!!

If you are a member of your club, speak to your club Sec. They will have all the information you need on the fixtures... They normally send out on initial list for the clubs Sec's to see if it interferes with any club dates that are fixed for other things, once they are ok'd then the fixtures are sorted.

They are not made public until then, any issues on getting the fixtures out (in my experience) is down to the clubs sorting out their own needs

I gave him a simple answer... like I said any clubman would know this

No fixtures available at the minute.
Fixture dates are agreed first ( start of Feb )
Actual fixtures were released  on 3rd week of Feb in 2022.!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2023, 12:29:29 PM
Big county game on sunday. I don't think I see one person predict an antrim win in the predictions thread. Hopefully all wrong. It would be good to get a win to start as I think we will get it tight enough staying in that division this year. Any thoughts on team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: harryR on January 25, 2023, 12:54:00 PM
Whatever happened to the full back burke that played a couple of years ago? I remember him marking Quigley out of the game one day and always thought he was a very good defender. Does he play anymore or just no interest in county football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 25, 2023, 03:54:32 PM
Aye Conor Burke. Decent big player, he had a great game that say. You're right he seems to have drifted off the scene completely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: harryR on January 25, 2023, 04:29:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 25, 2023, 03:54:32 PM
Aye Conor Burke. Decent big player, he had a great game that say. You're right he seems to have drifted off the scene completely.

Does he play for his club anymore?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Time Hurler on January 25, 2023, 07:12:08 PM
Conor Burke has been injured after he tore his hamstring off the bone v Loughgiel in SHC in 2020. Hopefully be back this year!! It was a bad injury, tried to come back in 2021 but done the hamstring again in 2nd or 3rd session back and had to rehab from then to hopefully this season!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 25, 2023, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2023, 12:29:29 PM
Big county game on sunday. I don't think I see one person predict an antrim win in the predictions thread. Hopefully all wrong. It would be good to get a win to start as I think we will get it tight enough staying in that division this year. Any thoughts on team?

Expect to see the Murray's start, hopefully the experiment with Stewart at wing forward is over and he returns to middle to partner small. Centre back and full back a lottery, no one nailed on yet. We need to provide more cover to our full back line than we did in McKenna cup, completely isolated and thus leaking majors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2023, 11:39:05 PM
Is Conor on board? No sign of him in McKenna Cup games, he would be a big presence in the team / squad if he is there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2023, 09:02:50 AM
If IN report is accurate then Conor Murray is not on board this season. It is going to be a tough campaign I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on January 26, 2023, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2023, 09:02:50 AM
If IN report is accurate then Conor Murray is not on board this season. It is going to be a tough campaign I think

That is accurate. Was in for a short stint at the start but isn't on panel now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2023, 10:17:09 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2023, 09:02:50 AM
If IN report is accurate then Conor Murray is not on board this season. It is going to be a tough campaign I think

If we stay up I'd take that tbh.

Conor Murray one of our best so big loss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 26, 2023, 10:17:59 AM
Is promotion not guaranteed now?

I'm expecting wholesale changes from the McKenna cup games, if not personnel then certainly system. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 26, 2023, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 26, 2023, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2023, 09:02:50 AM
If IN report is accurate then Conor Murray is not on board this season. It is going to be a tough campaign I think

That is accurate. Was in for a short stint at the start but isn't on panel now.

You positive about that? Wasn't at queens last week cause of county training.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2023, 10:49:38 AM
"The Johnston brothers – Ricky and Martin – have stepped away from the panel. Mick and Tomas McCann – both carrying injuries - haven't re-joined for the new season.

Their Cargin club-mate James Laverty, who occupied the centre-back role last season, has retired from the inter-county scene and experienced front man Conor Murray of Lamh Dhearg isn't expected to feature in 2023."


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 26, 2023, 01:35:28 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2023, 10:49:38 AM
"The Johnston brothers – Ricky and Martin – have stepped away from the panel. Mick and Tomas McCann – both carrying injuries - haven't re-joined for the new season.

Their Cargin club-mate James Laverty, who occupied the centre-back role last season, has retired from the inter-county scene and experienced front man Conor Murray of Lamh Dhearg isn't expected to feature in 2023."
Massive hole in the team, especially up the centre of the defence. Was like a sieve in the McKenna cup and not sure it was much different in the friendlies they have played since.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 26, 2023, 01:46:45 PM
Sorry your were 100% correct Toby, Conor gone from panel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 26, 2023, 01:51:17 PM
I'd expect Lynch to start at full back, too soon for young Hynds, centre back will be a huge issue, Andy seems to favour Finnegan but that wouldn't fill me with confidence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 26, 2023, 03:52:34 PM
With the absence of most of the Cargin contingent definitely sitting out league and Jamie Gribbin positively out for at least six weeks I doubt our ability to retain hard earned status....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on January 27, 2023, 01:02:14 PM
Good luck to the 2 schools in Mclarnon cup semi finals today and tomorrow. Would be good to have 2 really competitive performances.
Has the Antrim Schools competition ignited a little more interest and led to more competitive performances across the ulster colleges competitions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 27, 2023, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 26, 2023, 01:51:17 PM
I'd expect Lynch to start at full back, too soon for young Hynds, centre back will be a huge issue, Andy seems to favour Finnegan but that wouldn't fill me with confidence.



Finnegan starts. Lynch at full back
Hearing a few older men back for this one looks like a stronger line up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2023, 02:01:35 PM
Could you post the lineup?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 27, 2023, 02:44:20 PM
Very tough division 3 this year, looks like a league everyone will be winning a few and losing a few. Two points on Sunday would be fantastic, at least give us something to hold on to, as 4 points might keep us safe.

Having said that anything short of relegation will be a massive achievement. Good luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2023, 03:45:41 PM
Rathmore won 1-10 to 0-8 in mclarnon semi final. Any word on the other one? Be nice to see an all antrim final.

[Edit] Ah I see it's not until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 27, 2023, 05:50:30 PM
It's very encouraging to see Rathmore reach the MacLarnon Final. We need colleges football in the county. Maybe they could push on and think about MacRory in years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 28, 2023, 01:00:23 AM
St Louis will be up against it . Donagh more an excellent team spearheaded by the very talented Noah grimes and backbones by Joey Clarke. The likes of Mcferran and Mccloskey from dunloy are good ballers, cal O'Brien all saints an excellent goal threat and big Higgins at full back is a no non sense teak tough lad so Bmena have plenty of quality and they did beat st joes in the group if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 04:31:36 PM
Disappointing end at Corrigan, game was there for the taking. Offaly's young team had started strong but got a bit leggy. Missed chances cost in the end, particularly the 1-1 from the lad Finnegan who came on and other goal chances particularly Ruairi McCann of Creggan's chance. Could be a long league campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 29, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 04:31:36 PM
Disappointing end at Corrigan, game was there for the taking. Offaly's young team had started strong but got a bit leggy. Missed chances cost in the end, particularly the 1-1 from the lad Finnegan who came on and other goal chances particularly Ruairi McCann of Creggan's chance. Could be a long league campaign.

We are completely hopeless and the rot started after last years league, absolute certs for Division 4 and the scoreline flattered us because Offaly took the foot off the gas in the 2nd half. Depressing to think we could easily not a win a game this whole year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 29, 2023, 05:14:40 PM
Or you can take into consideration the 3 - 10 of very scorable opportunities that werent converted! That's the most frustrating thing, the chances were there to take something out of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 05:25:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 29, 2023, 05:14:40 PM
Or you can take into consideration the 3 - 10 of very scorable opportunities that werent converted! That's the most frustrating thing, the chances were there to take something out of the game.



Any amount of goal chances 2nd half fell to wrong players
Eastwood really should have scored as far as young Finnegans chance I really just don't know how it was possible to miss it. Roll on to next week in Newry to an in form Down its not looking great even at this early stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 29, 2023, 05:37:13 PM
Very frustrating. But there were positives, that was a different team / set up / performance than the Cavan championship match last year. We need to settle on a free taker, a county team not scoring from frees and 45s is destined to fail. Yes we had goal chances, a few of them, on another day they would be taken and we'd have had the draw or a win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 29, 2023, 05:45:11 PM
Side note - a good size crowd there today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 05:47:07 PM
Would have to question the calibre of player we are bringing off the bench, Finnegan and Mervyn are no where near at the level, and without wanting to be insulting, wouldn't get near a decent club teams starting 15. One of the best players in Antrim Sean O Neill never got a second. Baffling !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 29, 2023, 06:24:10 PM
To paraphrase Alex.Ferguson's single line team talk about Spurs

''Lads, its Offaly''


Too many out of their depth but McEntee needs time to view and assess players.  We have all seen the pre-season training superstars.  Had hoped McEntee would have worked it out quicker and trusted his own council.but seems he will need more time.    Newry a big ask but I am sure McEntee will set  the challenge

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 29, 2023, 06:33:04 PM
Offaly not a bad side at all. Think they will win more games than they lose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2023, 06:58:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 29, 2023, 06:33:04 PM
Offaly not a bad side at all. Think they will win more games than they lose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2023, 07:09:31 PM
Jeez after the previous management took it out of the basement and retained status in 22 the calls for their respective heads on the proverbial heads on a stake were loud.
Now crumbs of comfort are gleaned despite division 4 beckoning

Facts are that we are limited in personnel and unless radical intervention such may well be a long term residency..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 07:12:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2023, 07:09:31 PM
Jeez after the previous management took it out of the basement and retained status in 22 the calls for their respective heads on the proverbial heads on a stake were loud.
Now crumbs of comfort are gleaned despite division 4 beckoning

Facts are that we are limited in personnel and unless radical intervention such may well be a long term residency..

When did we reside in any other position?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 07:40:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 05:47:07 PM
Would have to question the calibre of player we are bringing off the bench, Finnegan and Mervyn are no where near at the level, and without wanting to be insulting, wouldn't get near a decent club teams starting 15. One of the best players in Antrim Sean O Neill never got a second. Baffling !


Mr Mccrudden seems to hold some sway. Declan very slow and behind his man all day. James mcauley similar but at least put in a few hits, Ruairi from Creggan not near fit it seems and just doesn't get involved enough, Conor Murray would be some help if he was to commit to it all.
Sean og O'Neill getting no game time is really quite ridiculous alright I dare say he's the first man pencilled down on any cargin line up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 07:40:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 05:47:07 PM
Would have to question the calibre of player we are bringing off the bench, Finnegan and Mervyn are no where near at the level, and without wanting to be insulting, wouldn't get near a decent club teams starting 15. One of the best players in Antrim Sean O Neill never got a second. Baffling !


Mr Mccrudden seems to hold some sway. Declan very slow and behind his man all day. James mcauley similar but at least put in a few hits, Ruairi from Creggan not near fit it seems and just doesn't get involved enough, Conor Murray would be some help if he was to commit to it all.
Sean og O'Neill getting no game time is really quite ridiculous alright I dare say he's the first man pencilled down on any cargin line up.

Guys give Sean a break, first season property at senior level with a bunch of people he's getting used to and nearly on his own. He's going to be a permanent fixture with the county so let it happen organically without the pressure piled on him wondering why he didn't get game time!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2023, 07:56:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 07:12:01 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 29, 2023, 07:09:31 PM
Jeez after the previous management took it out of the basement and retained status in 22 the calls for their respective heads on the proverbial heads on a stake were loud.
Now crumbs of comfort are gleaned despite division 4 beckoning

Facts are that we are limited in personnel and unless radical intervention such may well be a long term residency..

When did we reside in any other position?


Well, tough question but 'basement' is bottom i e division 4..

Think we reside in division three......atm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 07:40:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 05:47:07 PM
Would have to question the calibre of player we are bringing off the bench, Finnegan and Mervyn are no where near at the level, and without wanting to be insulting, wouldn't get near a decent club teams starting 15. One of the best players in Antrim Sean O Neill never got a second. Baffling !


Mr Mccrudden seems to hold some sway. Declan very slow and behind his man all day. James mcauley similar but at least put in a few hits, Ruairi from Creggan not near fit it seems and just doesn't get involved enough, Conor Murray would be some help if he was to commit to it all.
Sean og O'Neill getting no game time is really quite ridiculous alright I dare say he's the first man pencilled down on any cargin line up.

Guys give Sean a break, first season property at senior level with a bunch of people he's getting used to and nearly on his own. He's going to be a permanent fixture with the county so let it happen organically without the pressure piled on him wondering why he didn't get game time!


No pressure MR2 but he's better than what is on or coming on just a fact I'm sure he's delighted to be getting 10 minutes in two challenge games and mckenna Cup games but yes he will be a permanent fixture for years to come
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 08:12:23 PM
I ref'd a game he played more than ten minutes. In Antrim we have always put the best young talent on from the first opportunity, I've seen lads who are now in pain after over extended abuse!!

Personally I feel he needs to fill out a bit if I'm being honest, to take the hits
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 08:19:52 PM
Fill out a bit? Wise up, you really haven't clue. So a limited player with big guns starts ahead of him. Jesus I have heard it all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 08:12:23 PM
I ref'd a game he played more than ten minutes. In Antrim we have always put the best young talent on from the first opportunity, I've seen lads who are now in pain after over extended abuse!!

Personally I feel he needs to fill out a bit if I'm being honest, to take the hits


That's the perception people think he is too small he's well fit for it. believe me he is hard as nails
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 08:19:52 PM
Fill out a bit? Wise up, you really haven't clue. So a limited player with big guns starts ahead of him. Jesus I have heard it all

Ok, I gave my reason why, f you don't agree that's fine, keep your abuse though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
No abuse, Sean Kelly got his chance early and he was no Arnold Schwarzenegger
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 08:29:09 PM
I do recall Kevin Madden playing who was very slight turned out to be a fantastic player. Hopefully Andy gets a grip on things soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 08:29:47 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
No abuse, Sean Kelly got his chance early and he was no Arnold Schwarzenegger

If you don't see the differences in players at county level over club level then I don't think you see enough county footballers of today. 

Sean finished county early enough though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 29, 2023, 08:34:06 PM
MR2 is seeking the return of Dad's Army in a previous post....wonder is he making reference to a few individuals in green or was it just a pointed insult....
In any event think the present manager has already travelled that road.......and am sure when recovery from surgery is made perhaps the call may be answered...

Sean O' Neill needs to 'fill out'.....rubbish.
First on the team sheet for Cargin.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 08:44:42 PM
Jeeze you lot are rallying the wagons a bit early!!

He's young and needs to be bedded in, let the county manager do that, as for filling out, that'll come too as he matures..

Nowhere am I'm discussing talent here btw but twist my words how you like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
Pat was really poor today that's even with green glasses on 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 29, 2023, 08:59:38 PM
Dominic McEnhill shipped off at half time and I think that was a mistake. We created many opportunities in that second half, but we needed to get scoring forwards on the end of some good moves.

I can't help but feel today was one that got away. Adam Loughran was in the extended panel (not in 26 for the programme) and I think he might add something extra to us and his proven link up play with Aghagallons RMC could reap dividends. Maybe he is hurt because on natural ability he should be starting all day every day.

Best two on pitch for us were Peter Healy followed by Dermot McAleese...imo. Both put in a massive shift to be fair. Big Pat and Ryan Murray both won some good ball but a couple of shots were narrowly off target, just one of those days when it all went wrong.

Sean O Neill and Eoghan Mc Cabe are two players I expect to see more of as the year goes on. A few of the Cargin contingent could yet reappear, and does anyone know where's Ricky?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 29, 2023, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 08:29:09 PM
I do recall Kevin Madden playing who was very slight turned out to be a fantastic player. Hopefully Andy gets a grip on things soon.

Played alongside him for a couple of years
Built not much bigger than one of my thighs but the best ball winner I ever saw - unreal
30/70 20/80 he came out with the ball 9 times outta10
The old saying if you're good enough you're old enough
Same goes with size
Replace old with big
Sean O'Neill is both good and big enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 29, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
Derry, Tyrone etc playing young lads at 20 and 21 who have talent - Antrim bringing men back In who weren't good enough 10 years ago (Dowling)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on January 29, 2023, 09:46:21 PM
where are all the Cargin men? won champiosnhip 4 out of last 5 years surprised to see so few of them in the program today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 29, 2023, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 29, 2023, 08:59:38 PM
Dominic McEnhill shipped off at half time and I think that was a mistake. We created many opportunities in that second half, but we needed to get scoring forwards on the end of some good moves.

I can't help but feel today was one that got away. Adam Loughran was in the extended panel (not in 26 for the programme) and I think he might add something extra to us and his proven link up play with Aghagallons RMC could reap dividends. Maybe he is hurt because on natural ability he should be starting all day every day.

Best two on pitch for us were Peter Healy followed by Dermot McAleese...imo. Both put in a massive shift to be fair. Big Pat and Ryan Murray both won some good ball but a couple of shots were narrowly off target, just one of those days when it all went wrong.

Sean O Neill and Eoghan Mc Cabe are two players I expect to see more of as the year goes on. A few of the Cargin contingent could yet reappear, and does anyone know where's Ricky?

Seen Ricky and Marty in stands both should be there, totally agree Dermy was good today apart from his first half shot 😊Dowling a waste of a jersey he must show up well in training but I can only judge on what I've seen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 29, 2023, 10:23:05 PM
Would it be fair to suggest that there are players in the panel and starting on the team and only McEntee knows how they are being selected? I know some people say to give McEntee time, and that's fair enough, but anyone can see that they are no-where near good enough for this level. Where are all the Creggan, Cargin and PG1 players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2023, 10:32:40 PM
Selected? You can only really play with what's available surely? If people don't make themselves available due to whatever reasons they have, he can only play with what's available to commit?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 29, 2023, 11:42:01 PM
Gaping whole in the centre of our defence today, same as the 2 McKenna cup games. Finegan is never centre back. Caught out of position time and time again. Healy was excellent today. Dommo not fully recovered from that injury he picked up for uu, big mccan made a huge difference when he came on. Sean Oneill to chb would be my move. His reading of the game is superb , like to see Oisin get another go at midfield , thought he was decent against Cavan. Big Stewart disappointing today, expected more from him. Bizarre having mick hit the frees. Think Andy should have learned a lot about some of his players today, I hope he did . Down on high at mo, we will do well to be within 8 of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 30, 2023, 08:06:45 AM
Some people need to cut out the personal insults.  Probably didn't grace too many county teams themselves back in the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on January 30, 2023, 09:40:44 AM
Cut our loss with that senior team for the next few years and start getting the underage to a different level. Year on year its the same shite. The period Baker had Antrim, that squad was primed off the back of St. Galls success, men with schools football success and the likes of Murrray, Crozier etc..'s teams who got to an Ulster Final and an AI Minor Quarter.

What has McEntee inherited...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
And yet if we had been a bit more composed in front of goal yesterday we would have taken something out of the game. Anyone who was there will know that. Disallowed points, narrow misses inches wide of posts (twice Big Pat twice Ryan Murray) and three excellent goal opportunities,  all in a great final quarter, meant it was just not our day.

Would it be a disaster if we did drop down, regrouped and came back up again with a fresher renewed squad? I mean Leitrim are Division 4 and toyed with us at will only a few months ago in the Tailteean Cup. We are in some kind of transition, few can doubt that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 11:24:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 30, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
And yet if we had been a bit more composed in front of goal yesterday we would have taken something out of the game. Anyone who was there will know that. Disallowed points, narrow misses inches wide of posts (twice Big Pat twice Ryan Murray) and three excellent goal opportunities,  all in a great final quarter, meant it was just not our day.

Would it be a disaster if we did drop down, regrouped and came back up again with a fresher renewed squad? I mean Leitrim are Division 4 and toyed with us at will only a few months ago in the Tailteean Cup. We are in some kind of transition, few can doubt that.

Stop talking sense ffs!! Lets get the pitch forks at the ready and hang these wasters out to dry! No?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 30, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
And yet if we had been a bit more composed in front of goal yesterday we would have taken something out of the game. Anyone who was there will know that. Disallowed points, narrow misses inches wide of posts (twice Big Pat twice Ryan Murray) and three excellent goal opportunities,  all in a great final quarter, meant it was just not our day.

Would it be a disaster if we did drop down, regrouped and came back up again with a fresher renewed squad? I mean Leitrim are Division 4 and toyed with us at will only a few months ago in the Tailteean Cup. We are in some kind of transition, few can doubt that.
It doesn't seem like we have begun a transition, Antrim U20 team beat Derry 3 years ago before losing narrowly to Tyrone, only 3 players from that team playing yesterday. Last year again Antrim had a decent U20 team, no players form the team featured yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 30, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
One thing that was apparent yesterday was how much fitter the team looked. Very strong second half as Offaly wilted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
From the team that beat Derry at the Dub isn't Pat on the squad, also Luke Mulholland, Adam Loughran, Dominic Mc Enhill,Jamie Gribben and Cormac Mc Gettigan are all up on extended panel.

From last years team Cahir Donnelly Conall McGinn Eunan Quinn are all involved with under 20s atm and can probably expect senior recognition when that's over. Of that team Sean O Neill Ronan Boyle and Cathal Hynds are already on the senior squad.

Apologies if I've left someone out,  just going from memory.

That's not bad representation EOC, just give it a whilecto settle down. The cream will rise to the top.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2023, 01:19:55 PM
Stick a knife in the footballs and send Andy back down the road.

Jeez whizz lads calm down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 30, 2023, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 30, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
And yet if we had been a bit more composed in front of goal yesterday we would have taken something out of the game. Anyone who was there will know that. Disallowed points, narrow misses inches wide of posts (twice Big Pat twice Ryan Murray) and three excellent goal opportunities,  all in a great final quarter, meant it was just not our day.

Would it be a disaster if we did drop down, regrouped and came back up again with a fresher renewed squad? I mean Leitrim are Division 4 and toyed with us at will only a few months ago in the Tailteean Cup. We are in some kind of transition, few can doubt that.

Come on BS, after the diatribe launched last Summer for failure to get promoted to Div 2?  Some consistency please.  If we were in some form of transition then it would be more obvious unless as Antrim supporters we are doomed to eternal transition.     I will follow the same logic as CK says: Where are all the Creggan, Cargin and PG1 players?   At the moment we are hanging our hats on some positives in the last quarter of a match ignoring the dire nature of considerable periods of it.  Contrary to some hysterical believers, we are not and never were ready for Div 2 and I would have accepted Div 3 status this year as a launching point for a 2024 promotion push. 

The manager needs to cull and perhaps with the introductions of Kevin Small and Ruari he is getting there, that is my positive from it.  He still has some culling to go.

More than happy to give McEntee time but relegation should not be a consideration.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 30, 2023, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 30, 2023, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 30, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
And yet if we had been a bit more composed in front of goal yesterday we would have taken something out of the game. Anyone who was there will know that. Disallowed points, narrow misses inches wide of posts (twice Big Pat twice Ryan Murray) and three excellent goal opportunities,  all in a great final quarter, meant it was just not our day.

Would it be a disaster if we did drop down, regrouped and came back up again with a fresher renewed squad? I mean Leitrim are Division 4 and toyed with us at will only a few months ago in the Tailteean Cup. We are in some kind of transition, few can doubt that.

Come on BS, after the diatribe launched last Summer for failure to get promoted to Div 2?  Some consistency please.  If we were in some form of transition then it would be more obvious unless as Antrim supporters we are doomed to eternal transition.     I will follow the same logic as CK says: Where are all the Creggan, Cargin and PG1 players?   At the moment we are hanging our hats on some positives in the last quarter of a match ignoring the dire nature of considerable periods of it.  Contrary to some hysterical believers, we are not and never were ready for Div 2 and I would have accepted Div 3 status this year as a launching point for a 2024 promotion push. 

The manager needs to cull and perhaps with the introductions of Kevin Small and Ruari he is getting there, that is my positive from it.  He still has some culling to go.

More than happy to give McEntee time but relegation should not be a consideration.

Assuming that Ricky, Marty, James Laverty and Niall Delargy cannot be enticed to commit again this year, which players from those clubs do you think should be getting the call up?
Just curious who, I agree that we would expect greater representation from these clubs than there is at present.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2023, 04:18:51 PM
Maybe I am missing something but, yesterday was a better performance than much of what we saw towards the end of last year's campaign. If we had someone on the pitch converting frees and 45s and / or we had converted goal chances, we would be on here talking about having beaten Offaly. Survival in Div 3 is the aim, it wasn't going to be promotion this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 30, 2023, 05:19:22 PM
Yes it appears you are.  Promotion to Div 3 in 2025 seems to be our aim now. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

What way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 05:28:08 PM
Apparently a vote on Monday night on whether to change age grades in Antrim to u18, 16, 14, 12 etc this season 2023 (with decoupling meaning last year minors can't play adult), or stay at u17 (with decoupling at u17 level)
Seems a real mess having a vote on this at this late stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 30, 2023, 06:20:55 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 30, 2023, 05:19:22 PM
Yes it appears you are.  Promotion to Div 3 in 2025 seems to be our aim now.

Yep the aim in 2021 was to win promotion to div 3, and when such was achieved, and status maintained this was not acceptable and the knives were out for management...
And now seems the aim has changed to the retention of the aforementioned status...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 30, 2023, 06:49:45 PM
CB, I thought we had agreed here to move on...do we really want to debate EMG era here again because that's what will happen if you don't stop bringing it up after every match Antrim lose. Your call.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego

Our minors have been training for a month now at u17 ffs. The league starts in a month and they're not sure what grade it is? Joke as usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego

Our minors have been training for a month now at u17 ffs. The league starts in a month and they're not sure what grade it is? Joke as usual.

What did the clubs agree on? As it goes to the clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego

Our minors have been training for a month now at u17 ffs. The league starts in a month and they're not sure what grade it is? Joke as usual.

What did the clubs agree on? As it goes to the clubs.
Won't know until Monday nights vote
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego

Our minors have been training for a month now at u17 ffs. The league starts in a month and they're not sure what grade it is? Joke as usual.

What did the clubs agree on? As it goes to the clubs.
Won't know until Monday nights vote

So when it happens it'll be the clubs that agree on it.. no one to blame but your delegates
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego

Our minors have been training for a month now at u17 ffs. The league starts in a month and they're not sure what grade it is? Joke as usual.

What did the clubs agree on? As it goes to the clubs.
Won't know until Monday nights vote

So when it happens it'll be the clubs that agree on it.. no one to blame but your delegates

But why wait until February! Why could this not have been sorted before Christmas!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on January 30, 2023, 10:00:25 PM
What do powwow expect with Quinn & McCavana involved. Hopeless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:01:01 PM
I remember stuff years ago when I was involved with teams, the back and forth between clubs all looking after their own interests would bore ya to death!

Is there a proposed date for start?

Was my understanding that we'd this sorted!! Frustrating Jim for you being manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 30, 2023, 03:36:54 PM
Hearing our County Board have made a right pigs ear of the underage structures.

That will happen when you have no actual gaa people on the board and it's all about business, finance making videos and ego

Our minors have been training for a month now at u17 ffs. The league starts in a month and they're not sure what grade it is? Joke as usual.

What did the clubs agree on? As it goes to the clubs.
Won't know until Monday nights vote

So when it happens it'll be the clubs that agree on it.. no one to blame but your delegates
Yeah it will. But why not sort before now, that's the point. Most teams have met up and trained together. Also Not allowing an 18 year old to play adult football is also a crazy proposal that will really hurt some of the smaller clubs, but in fairness it's the GAA leadership directing this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.

When ya have an agenda it's open season on county boards, especially when people don't know all the facts..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.

When ya have an agenda it's open season on county boards, especially when people don't know all the facts..
You don't seem to know many of the facts, in fact none yet you are commenting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.

When ya have an agenda it's open season on county boards, especially when people don't know all the facts..
You don't seem to know many of the facts, in fact none yet you are commenting

Here's what I do know, that every opportunity to have a dig at people you're front and center, you seem to be a right miserable git  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2023, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.

When ya have an agenda it's open season on county boards, especially when people don't know all the facts..
You don't seem to know many of the facts, in fact none yet you are commenting

Here's what I do know, that every opportunity to have a dig at people you're front and center, you seem to be a right miserable git  ;D
Pathetic comment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 30, 2023, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.

Suppose it gets people talking about something other than the balls up if the club final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 30, 2023, 10:39:53 PM
Croke Park Ard Chomhairle released change to age grade at 6.20pm on Saturday - no one saw it coming! County officer informed clubs at 1pm today. Clubs to make decision next week. Very difficult for clubs at this stage, decoupling to u17 or u18 to adult competitions is main issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
Armagh had already decided to run a minor competition and u17 competition long before Christmas. Minor isn't the issue, it's deciding it's minor 4 weeks before the season starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 30, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
Armagh had already decided to run a minor competition and u17 competition long before Christmas. Minor isn't the issue, it's deciding it's minor 4 weeks before the season starts.

You Armagh one's always take the lead ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on January 30, 2023, 11:35:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on January 30, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
On the Tyrone club section they said it was a Croke Park only gave permission for the counties to change at the weekend. Can't blame the county board for that.

When ya have an agenda it's open season on county boards, especially when people don't know all the facts..

I dont know about other county boards but antrims has been a complete joke for a long time, McCavanas term has been a complete and utter shambles like it's not even funny the amount of things you could pin at his door. Genuinely thought we'd get a fresh slate this year but his ego means he'll be gracing us with his videos and constantly talking through his hole for a 6TH YEAR! Unbelievable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
I take my last post back it wasn't County boards fault this time.hopefully the clubs vote to stay U17 for this year as most are already training and have planned ahead for it as such.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 08:57:53 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
I take my last post back it wasn't County boards fault this time.hopefully the clubs vote to stay U17 for this year as most are already training and have planned ahead for it as such.

Complete farce to change things at this stage. And the biggest farce of the lot was changing it in the first place!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 09:07:48 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 08:57:53 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
I take my last post back it wasn't County boards fault this time.hopefully the clubs vote to stay U17 for this year as most are already training and have planned ahead for it as such.

Complete farce to change things at this stage. And the biggest farce of the lot was changing it in the first place!


Totally agree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 31, 2023, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
I take my last post back it wasn't County boards fault this time.hopefully the clubs vote to stay U17 for this year as most are already training and have planned ahead for it as such.

Clubs have all committed to which league and feile to play in this year so to change it might have an impact on the decision some clubs would have made.

I know from speaking to coach from another club near me, they are struggling to field at u15 whereas if it was u16 they would be fine.

So I would say they have made their decision based on how their u15 squad is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2023, 11:13:14 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 31, 2023, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
I take my last post back it wasn't County boards fault this time.hopefully the clubs vote to stay U17 for this year as most are already training and have planned ahead for it as such.

Clubs have all committed to which league and feile to play in this year so to change it might have an impact on the decision some clubs would have made.

I know from speaking to coach from another club near me, they are struggling to field at u15 whereas if it was u16 they would be fine.

So I would say they have made their decision based on how their u15 squad is.

And this is what holds things up, clubs own interests, but hey, what would I know lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 31, 2023, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2023, 11:13:14 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 31, 2023, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 31, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
I take my last post back it wasn't County boards fault this time.hopefully the clubs vote to stay U17 for this year as most are already training and have planned ahead for it as such.

Clubs have all committed to which league and feile to play in this year so to change it might have an impact on the decision some clubs would have made.

I know from speaking to coach from another club near me, they are struggling to field at u15 whereas if it was u16 they would be fine.

So I would say they have made their decision based on how their u15 squad is.

And this is what holds things up, clubs own interests, but hey, what would I know lol

Sorry you have misunderstood my point.

They aren't pushing to change and "hold things up"

The decision was already made based on them going ahead as u15, as had been the directive for not changing until Jan 2024.

It was just a passing remark that u16 would suit them better as it would be the team they had at u15 last year.

They will be going ahead with whatever they are told, u15 or u16 and they, like me, will have not much say in the matter.

i know I have been consulted by my own club as to what the preference is.

The juvenile committee will decide that on their own, rightly or wrongly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 31, 2023, 12:29:18 PM
I see the replay has been announced for the club final.

Does anyone think KC will actually play it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 12:40:14 PM
I would assume the minor league fixtures will be pushed back a month to give teams time to prepare?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 12:40:14 PM
I would assume the minor league fixtures will be pushed back a month to give teams time to prepare?

Starting on the 12th of Feb. 11am starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 31, 2023, 01:31:01 PM
Seriously??

Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 12:40:14 PM
I would assume the minor league fixtures will be pushed back a month to give teams time to prepare?

Starting on the 12th of Feb. 11am starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 12:40:14 PM
I would assume the minor league fixtures will be pushed back a month to give teams time to prepare?

Starting on the 12th of Feb. 11am starts.

I was told start of March.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 31, 2023, 02:19:45 PM
If this all goes and changes do last couple of years minor winners have an asterisk beside them  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Strange move by Croke Park to reopen the age grade debate, when it was settled and clubs preparing for leagues staring in a few weeks. I think moving to even numbers for this year, at this stage, is too unsettling - especially with decoupling meaning that 18 year old could not feature for senior or senior reserve teams. Presumably Feile will stick with u15, so would our county u14 champions feature if that was the case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 31, 2023, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Strange move by Croke Park to reopen the age grade debate, when it was settled and clubs preparing for leagues staring in a few weeks. I think moving to even numbers for this year, at this stage, is too unsettling - especially with decoupling meaning that 18 year old could not feature for senior or senior reserve teams. Presumably Feile will stick with u15, so would our county u14 champions feature if that was the case?
Agree with all this Brendan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 31, 2023, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Strange move by Croke Park to reopen the age grade debate, when it was settled and clubs preparing for leagues staring in a few weeks. I think moving to even numbers for this year, at this stage, is too unsettling - especially with decoupling meaning that 18 year old could not feature for senior or senior reserve teams. Presumably Feile will stick with u15, so would our county u14 champions feature if that was the case?

Feile will in all likely run as a separate competition at U15 played over a weekend like last year with the various group winners going to the respective National/regional feiles now played out on the same day.

How Antrim decide to age grade the other competitions is up to them, but if half of Ulster go U17 and the other half U18 then how do the likes of St Pauls run their Ulster minor football tournament??

Croke Park have made a right pigs ear of this yet again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 31, 2023, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 31, 2023, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Strange move by Croke Park to reopen the age grade debate, when it was settled and clubs preparing for leagues staring in a few weeks. I think moving to even numbers for this year, at this stage, is too unsettling - especially with decoupling meaning that 18 year old could not feature for senior or senior reserve teams. Presumably Feile will stick with u15, so would our county u14 champions feature if that was the case?

Feile will in all likely run as a separate competition at U15 played over a weekend like last year with the various group winners going to the respective National/regional feiles now played out on the same day.

How Antrim decide to age grade the other competitions is up to them, but if half of Ulster go U17 and the other half U18 then how do the likes of St Pauls run their Ulster minor football tournament??

Croke Park have made a right pigs ear of this yet again

Last year there was an u14 Og Sport competition (won by PG1 in Antrim) despite the age groups being u13 and u15.

So there should be some flexibility with teams if Feile remains u15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on January 31, 2023, 06:21:07 PM
What about Co squads for minor. Are they 17 or 18 or is this up for debate also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 31, 2023, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on January 31, 2023, 06:21:07 PM
What about Co squads for minor. Are they 17 or 18 or is this up for debate also
County squads will continue at odd numbers.
If clubs go with even years, 18 yr old minors will not be able to play adult competitions.
so lads would ve have started training as a senior player but will be relegated to minors, next week  - if clubs go u18 ! A complete farce by CP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 31, 2023, 01:31:01 PM
Seriously??

Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 12:40:14 PM
I would assume the minor league fixtures will be pushed back a month to give teams time to prepare?

Starting on the 12th of Feb. 11am starts.

That's what I was told but I'd say it was a piss take
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on January 31, 2023, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 08:52:28 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 31, 2023, 01:31:01 PM
Seriously??

Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 31, 2023, 12:40:14 PM
I would assume the minor league fixtures will be pushed back a month to give teams time to prepare?

Starting on the 12th of Feb. 11am starts.

Football 6th March  Hurling 26th March - team selection TBC !!!!

That's what I was told but I'd say it was a piss take
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on January 31, 2023, 11:11:01 PM
When do Antrim make their decision on age grades for 2023? Is there any early indication as to what the likely consensus amongst club delegates is likely to be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 11:13:27 PM
Transfer window shut 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Saffrom Merchant on February 01, 2023, 02:41:14 PM
hi guys, newbie here  ;D. Wasn't sure on what topic to make my v. first post on but here goes- What are everyone's thoughts on how minor championship/league may turn out? Taking into consideration this decision being made on Monday about the county reforming back to the u18 structure of course. I find it hard to pick out a winner but one things for sure: Glenravel's success last year will NOT I repeat NOT be repeated. If anything it was pure luck they made it past the quarter final. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on February 01, 2023, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2023, 11:13:27 PM
Transfer window shut 👀

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Happy St Brigid's Day!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 01, 2023, 04:33:52 PM
Quote from: The Saffrom Merchant on February 01, 2023, 02:41:14 PM
hi guys, newbie here  ;D. Wasn't sure on what topic to make my v. first post on but here goes- What are everyone's thoughts on how minor championship/league may turn out? Taking into consideration this decision being made on Monday about the county reforming back to the u18 structure of course. I find it hard to pick out a winner but one things for sure: Glenravel's success last year will NOT I repeat NOT be repeated. If anything it was pure luck they made it past the quarter final. Thoughts?

Big hello to Glenravel's Minor Manager! Trying to bring a siege mentality to the team this year.....I love it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on February 01, 2023, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 01, 2023, 04:33:52 PM
Quote from: The Saffrom Merchant on February 01, 2023, 02:41:14 PM
hi guys, newbie here  ;D. Wasn't sure on what topic to make my v. first post on but here goes- What are everyone's thoughts on how minor championship/league may turn out? Taking into consideration this decision being made on Monday about the county reforming back to the u18 structure of course. I find it hard to pick out a winner but one things for sure: Glenravel's success last year will NOT I repeat NOT be repeated. If anything it was pure luck they made it past the quarter final. Thoughts?

Big hello to Glenravel's Minor Manager! Trying to bring a siege mentality to the team this year.....I love it.

Thinks he's slick NAG, glenravel always into those mind games from day wan. I mind many a time a game would be played on the 'wee' pitch instead of their good pitch, simply due to mind games. Have to admire them for their efforts in this field.

Thinks he's slick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 01, 2023, 05:53:46 PM
Any idea when the club leagues start and when the fixtures will be released?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 01, 2023, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 01, 2023, 05:53:46 PM
Any idea when the club leagues start and when the fixtures will be released?

Football 5th March  & Hurling 26th.
Fixs dates start of Feb
Actual fixtures 24th  Feb approx
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 01, 2023, 06:26:43 PM
Very poor of the GAA to foist the underage decision back onto counties/clubs at this late stage.  They're not having a good run in terms of good governance. U18 feels like the right decision, but the timing is a balls for quite a few I'm sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 01, 2023, 06:56:09 PM
Under 18 is definitely the best decision, it should just have been made months ago.

Does anyone know when we will know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on February 01, 2023, 07:04:44 PM
County committee meeting on Monday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 01, 2023, 08:59:55 PM
It should stay u17 for this year IMO clubs have prepared for it that way it would be a major turnaround for clubs now to vote for it to be U18 again after the last vote was overwhelmingly a vote for U17 a couple months ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 01, 2023, 10:08:05 PM
Any idea how clubs will vote on Monday regarding the age groups ? I'm hearing mixed reports. Moving the age grade to 18s is the sensible choice and before the start of the next season is the sensible time considering this year is already up and running.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2023, 11:18:40 PM
Has to stay u17 for this year, can go to u18 next year. Some players have already received sanctions based on u17 and a few transfers gone through apparently as well as lads left u17 last year. Only sensible thing to do is stick with u17 this year and return to u18 next season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
Genuinely cant believe this is even a debate at this stage.

Clarity was given that we would return to the original status 2024, why not just keep to that and make the best of this year. Plan for the following year and be ready to go.

Causing trouble and chaos over nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
Genuinely cant believe this is even a debate at this stage.

Clarity was given that we would return to the original status 2024, why not just keep to that and make the best of this year. Plan for the following year and be ready to go.

Causing trouble and chaos over nothing.

Seems like the clubs are going to vote it to change this year though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 02, 2023, 02:17:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
Genuinely cant believe this is even a debate at this stage.

Clarity was given that we would return to the original status 2024, why not just keep to that and make the best of this year. Plan for the following year and be ready to go.

Causing trouble and chaos over nothing.

Seems like the clubs are going to vote it to change this year though

madness. All clubs should stick together on this one. With the amount of clubs who need the 18 year olds to field teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 02, 2023, 02:24:24 PM
My opinion is, rightly or wrongly, they should just change the one age group, u17 to u18 and leave the others as is.

Then make it so only final year u18s can play senior and u15s can't play up to u18.

That would make it a simple change for this year.

Ideally I would go half ages, from next year, then to tie in with class age groups, so u11 1/2, u13 1/2, u15 1/2 and then u18 1/2 still with the 18 year olds allowed to play senior.

That would combat the drop off at that age group as really al those still of school age would still be able to play together with the strongest able to also play senior.

I am sure someone will see the error in this and happy to hear it as I can't think of the negatives myself!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
Genuinely cant believe this is even a debate at this stage.

Clarity was given that we would return to the original status 2024, why not just keep to that and make the best of this year. Plan for the following year and be ready to go.

Causing trouble and chaos over nothing.

Seems like the clubs are going to vote it to change this year though
How do you know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 02, 2023, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
Genuinely cant believe this is even a debate at this stage.

Clarity was given that we would return to the original status 2024, why not just keep to that and make the best of this year. Plan for the following year and be ready to go.

Causing trouble and chaos over nothing.

Seems like the clubs are going to vote it to change this year though
How do you know?
I'm getting mixed vibes about it. Bigger clubs with plenty of players will vote to change it now as it doesn't affect them, if anything they'll gladly take the 18 year olds out of their adult squads to lessen the numbers of players needing game time. Other clubs with smaller numbers will want to wait until early 2024 when it is changing for good, as they need these 18 year olds to make up their teams. I read an article a few weeks ago saying decoupling of 18 year olds wont be in place next year as long as the 18 year olds don't play adult football before March of that season. All adds to the confusion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 07:40:48 PM
Clubs will always look after themselves first..

It's only natural. If you have a potentially great under 17 you'll vote for that, if potentially your under 18 squad has the makings of a championship team you'll opt for that.

I never agreed with the change in the first place, seen absolutely no merit in it personally speaking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 02, 2023, 08:08:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 07:40:48 PM
Clubs will always look after themselves first..

It's only natural. If you have a potentially great under 17 you'll vote for that, if potentially your under 18 squad has the makings of a championship team you'll opt for that.

I never agreed with the change in the first place, seen absolutely no merit in it personally speaking

Have to agree on that first line

But this shouldn't be an issue on the first week of February
Same as how it took 10 days for a decision on on the AI Club final

I know you're a big supporter MR2 that no point hiding behind a keyboard, get out and volunteer, but you would really love to know what goes on the minds of the people in authority
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 02, 2023, 08:08:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 07:40:48 PM
Clubs will always look after themselves first..

It's only natural. If you have a potentially great under 17 you'll vote for that, if potentially your under 18 squad has the makings of a championship team you'll opt for that.

I never agreed with the change in the first place, seen absolutely no merit in it personally speaking

Have to agree on that first line

But this shouldn't be an issue on the first week of February
Same as how it took 10 days for a decision on on the AI Club final

I know you're a bit supporter MR2 that no point hiding behind a keyboard, get out and volunteer, but you would really love to know what goes on the minds of the people in authority

I've served my time at all ages and have had many, many a spat with authority's over rulings which I felt at the time went against me as manager of various teams. And not just me but other clubs too. But the reality the county ( in this case) hands tied.

Would certainly put me off going back to managing again.

Preparation is hampered, I know Jim is looking after minors so his frustration must be through the roof!!

Croke haven't covered themselves in glory recently that's for sure.

As for the club final two balls ups have given us the problem. It must be a procedure thing with regards of a club having to put in an appeal, I wouldn't know the ins and outs of that side of things tbf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 09:16:40 PM
I was reading that Limerick or somewhere isn't going to bother changing as it would take that long drawing up a new fixture list etc. Surely it is too rush now to start that process from next week and have it all set up and ready to go for a few weeks later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 02, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 09:16:40 PM
I was reading that Limerick or somewhere isn't going to bother changing as it would take that long drawing up a new fixture list etc. Surely it is too rush now to start that process from next week and have it all set up and ready to go for a few weeks later.

Totally agree! Leave at u17 for 2023 and move to u18 for 2024.
Would be harsh on lads , thinking theyve moved up to senior level to now be told , go back to underage !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 02, 2023, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 02, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 02, 2023, 09:16:40 PM
I was reading that Limerick or somewhere isn't going to bother changing as it would take that long drawing up a new fixture list etc. Surely it is too rush now to start that process from next week and have it all set up and ready to go for a few weeks later.

Totally agree! Leave at u17 for 2023 and move to u18 for 2024.
Would be harsh on lads , thinking theyve moved up to senior level to now be told , go back to underage !

I think it's harsher sending a lad just turned 18 into Senior. Another year developing do them no harm. Under 17 has been the biggest nonsense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 03, 2023, 09:49:36 AM
Three options on the table;;


National Policy on Club Age Grades
1. Maintain the core club championship age grades nationally at club level as U13/15/17 with decoupling nationally remaining at U17. At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U17 and Adult in this circumstance.

2. A county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so provided they adopt an internal bye law to decouple at U18 (i.e. in such Counties U18's would not be permitted to playing Adult competition). At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U18 and Adult in this circumstance.

3. Alternatively, a county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so, and retain decoupling at 17 with at least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) being organized between U18 and Adult. Players in their 18th year will only be allowed to play for or train with Adult teams post March 1st and once the signed consent of the player, their parents/guardians and the Club Executive has been provided. The Task Force also recommends that no player should have to play an Adult and U18 game within 60 hours of each other and request County CCC's to adhere to this policy.


In relation to Part 3 of the policy, it is envisaged that permission would be sought on a standard Association form (possibly digitally under the new Foireann system).The form would require to be submitted in the period from March 1st - April 1St and would essentially mean that a plyer in his 18th year would be ineligible for adult competition until post March 1st annually (i.e. until the school games programme is winding down).The form will alert those involved to the risks around burnout/overtraining/overuse injuries for players in their 18th year playing with and training for multiple teams across the Youth and Adult games programmes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 03, 2023, 12:45:52 PM
Option three wasn't an option for Antrim clubs it seems that has been left out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2023, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 03, 2023, 09:49:36 AM
Three options on the table;;


National Policy on Club Age Grades
1. Maintain the core club championship age grades nationally at club level as U13/15/17 with decoupling nationally remaining at U17. At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U17 and Adult in this circumstance.

2. A county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so provided they adopt an internal bye law to decouple at U18 (i.e. in such Counties U18's would not be permitted to playing Adult competition). At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U18 and Adult in this circumstance.

3. Alternatively, a county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so, and retain decoupling at 17 with at least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) being organized between U18 and Adult. Players in their 18th year will only be allowed to play for or train with Adult teams post March 1st and once the signed consent of the player, their parents/guardians and the Club Executive has been provided. The Task Force also recommends that no player should have to play an Adult and U18 game within 60 hours of each other and request County CCC's to adhere to this policy.


In relation to Part 3 of the policy, it is envisaged that permission would be sought on a standard Association form (possibly digitally under the new Foireann system).The form would require to be submitted in the period from March 1st - April 1St and would essentially mean that a plyer in his 18th year would be ineligible for adult competition until post March 1st annually (i.e. until the school games programme is winding down).The form will alert those involved to the risks around burnout/overtraining/overuse injuries for players in their 18th year playing with and training for multiple teams across the Youth and Adult games programmes.
These aren't the options clubs were given
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 03, 2023, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2023, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 03, 2023, 09:49:36 AM
Three options on the table;;


National Policy on Club Age Grades
1. Maintain the core club championship age grades nationally at club level as U13/15/17 with decoupling nationally remaining at U17. At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U17 and Adult in this circumstance.

2. A county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so provided they adopt an internal bye law to decouple at U18 (i.e. in such Counties U18's would not be permitted to playing Adult competition). At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U18 and Adult in this circumstance.

3. Alternatively, a county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so, and retain decoupling at 17 with at least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) being organized between U18 and Adult. Players in their 18th year will only be allowed to play for or train with Adult teams post March 1st and once the signed consent of the player, their parents/guardians and the Club Executive has been provided. The Task Force also recommends that no player should have to play an Adult and U18 game within 60 hours of each other and request County CCC's to adhere to this policy.


In relation to Part 3 of the policy, it is envisaged that permission would be sought on a standard Association form (possibly digitally under the new Foireann system).The form would require to be submitted in the period from March 1st - April 1St and would essentially mean that a plyer in his 18th year would be ineligible for adult competition until post March 1st annually (i.e. until the school games programme is winding down).The form will alert those involved to the risks around burnout/overtraining/overuse injuries for players in their 18th year playing with and training for multiple teams across the Youth and Adult games programmes.
These aren't the options clubs were given

Option 3 wasnt in the options BUT is actually the BEST solution for 2023!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on February 03, 2023, 02:38:09 PM
Option 3 wasn't offered because it doesn't suit the fixture makers, they want to be able to play minor and Senior games both on Sundays.

I'd imagine this will be brought up on Monday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2023, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on February 03, 2023, 02:38:09 PM
Option 3 wasn't offered because it doesn't suit the fixture makers, they want to be able to play minor and Senior games both on Sundays.

I'd imagine this will be brought up on Monday night.
Can't even give clubs the right options available, or is option 3 a proposal for 2024 and not available in 2023
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 03, 2023, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2023, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on February 03, 2023, 02:38:09 PM
Option 3 wasn't offered because it doesn't suit the fixture makers, they want to be able to play minor and Senior games both on Sundays.

I'd imagine this will be brought up on Monday night.
Can't even give clubs the right options available, or is option 3 a proposal for 2024 and not available in 2023

Shared with Down clubs and is up for discussion with the CB on Wednesday night.

We'll probably go for Option 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 03, 2023, 04:19:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 03, 2023, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 03, 2023, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on February 03, 2023, 02:38:09 PM
Option 3 wasn't offered because it doesn't suit the fixture makers, they want to be able to play minor and Senior games both on Sundays.

I'd imagine this will be brought up on Monday night.
Can't even give clubs the right options available, or is option 3 a proposal for 2024 and not available in 2023

Shared with Down clubs and is up for discussion with the CB on Wednesday night.

We'll probably go for Option 3.
If changing it the 3 seems the fairest. Just a pity its so late in the day. Obviously whatever happens everyone will adapt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 03, 2023, 05:12:01 PM
Wonder why clubs were not advised on 'option 3" ?

Seems that Dublin have already decided to go with the same 'option 3'....

Well, well..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 03, 2023, 06:34:35 PM
Was option 3 on the table for clubs or did the county board rule it out before asking clubs to decide on how to vote ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 03, 2023, 08:18:09 PM
Clubs only emailed the 2 options...option 3 wasn't communicated to clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 04, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
Anywhere to watch the match online?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 07:12:58 PM
Not sure there is Jim.

Putting up some show thus far at least. Hopefully can keep this up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 04, 2023, 07:55:08 PM
Pathetic mentality to throw that away, 4-29 conceded in just 2 games against bang average sides at best, I'll stick with my prediction of saying we wont win a game this year, the excitement over the Mcentee appointment is long gone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 04, 2023, 07:58:01 PM
Sick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 04, 2023, 07:55:08 PM
Pathetic mentality to throw that away, 4-29 conceded in just 2 games against bang average sides at best, I'll stick with my prediction of saying we wont win a game this year, the excitement over the Mcentee appointment is long gone

Are you still sore? Are saffron voice back yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 04, 2023, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 04, 2023, 08:09:11 PM
Hard one to take but a good effort in a game we were widely predicted to get slaughtered in.

Does it really matter tho? Might as well have got slaughtered because it's still 2 losses from 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 04, 2023, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 04, 2023, 07:55:08 PM
Pathetic mentality to throw that away, 4-29 conceded in just 2 games against bang average sides at best, I'll stick with my prediction of saying we wont win a game this year, the excitement over the Mcentee appointment is long gone

Are you still sore? Are saffron voice back yet?

What even is this reply lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 04, 2023, 08:14:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 04, 2023, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 04, 2023, 08:09:11 PM
Hard one to take but a good effort in a game we were widely predicted to get slaughtered in.

Does it really matter tho? Might as well have got slaughtered because it's still 2 losses from 2
I'd rather we were competitive than slaughtered, yes.

He'd rather hammer into the team than be behind it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 04, 2023, 08:45:09 PM
Those 2 team that bate us came down from Div 2 so need to panic   hold your nerve
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardtole on February 04, 2023, 09:08:23 PM
Antrim will stay up if they maintain tonight's level if performance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 04, 2023, 09:08:53 PM
I wasn't there but sounds a massive improvement from last week, something to build on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 04, 2023, 09:26:45 PM
 Enda didnt think Ruairi was good enough for his panel 🤷🏽‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2023, 10:09:13 PM
Anyone who actually supports Antrim will recognise that performance tonight as one of the best in a long time. We went toe to toe with Down all over the pitch, and came out on the wrong side of a monumental shoot out. Andy is still learning about his players, and many of them can hold their heads high. The Lamh Dhearg trio were excellent,  along with Joseph Finnegan at CHB and Conor Stewart in midfield.

The early loss of Dermot Mc Aleese after 5 mins with a suspected broken jaw didn't help our cause, and the superb Kevin Small retired with a niggle at HT. The second half saw Peter Healy coming off with an injury and Andy removed Ryan Murray who was simply superb as he had a yellow card and was throwing himself into tackles one after the other.

The combined loss of these four ultimately told a tale in the last ten minutes, I've no doubt had they been able to see the game out we would have held on.

Don't mention the referee who bottled out of giving us a certain 14 yard free to equalise in the last minute for a foul on the excellent Aghagallon Ruairi McCann.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 05, 2023, 11:08:37 AM
I'm taking the positives.  We went down to Newry and kicked 2-17.  Somethings right there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 05, 2023, 04:22:31 PM
Anyone any more news on this option 3 being available to clubs tomorrow night seems strange for Antrim to just leave it out as an option!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2023, 06:09:24 PM
Sticking my neck out perhaps but, judging by results to date, I think we can target wins over Longford, Fermanagh, Tipperary to stay up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 05, 2023, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2023, 06:09:24 PM
Sticking my neck out perhaps but, judging by results to date, I think we can target wins over Longford, Fermanagh, Tipperary to stay up.

Should be beating Longford, the other two are 50/50 games I think but certainly winnable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 05, 2023, 04:22:31 PM
Anyone any more news on this option 3 being available to clubs tomorrow night seems strange for Antrim to just leave it out as an option!

Ok I'm going to stick my neck on the block and leave me open for Eoc to ridicule me  ;D

We are a dual county, fixtures playing a big part due to the recommendations of a 60 hour wait between playing minor and senior yes could be argued to look at fixtures again and make it work but that was originally agreed last year by the clubs... now because of Croke changing things it's put us in a position where option three isn't being discussed.

But hey, there's a meeting soon with the clubs.

Some clubs will want it because it suits their chances at minor, I know crazy view ;D let's say you have a sensational player who'd make the difference, hmm struggling to know which club would have that type  ;D

Anyways it's (I think up for debate soon enough)

If we'd loads of referees it would help massively also, loads of different factors to take on board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 05, 2023, 09:11:23 PM
Across the 4 games to date the noticeable thing is that every game brings more positive showings, individually and collectively. Instead of looking up to or depending on two or three individuals everyone is stepping up a notch, taking responsibility. I thought that process may take a bit longer but its evolving nicely and going by last nights performance we definitely should be hoping to carve out a few wins in this division. Looking forward to Thurles in 2 weeks, that's a big one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 08:55:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 05, 2023, 04:22:31 PM
Anyone any more news on this option 3 being available to clubs tomorrow night seems strange for Antrim to just leave it out as an option!

Ok I'm going to stick my neck on the block and leave me open for Eoc to ridicule me  ;D

We are a dual county, fixtures playing a big part due to the recommendations of a 60 hour wait between playing minor and senior yes could be argued to look at fixtures again and make it work but that was originally agreed last year by the clubs... now because of Croke changing things it's put us in a position where option three isn't being discussed.

But hey, there's a meeting soon with the clubs.

Some clubs will want it because it suits their chances at minor, I know crazy view ;D let's say you have a sensational player who'd make the difference, hmm struggling to know which club would have that type  ;D

Anyways it's (I think up for debate soon enough)

If we'd loads of referees it would help massively also, loads of different factors to take on board
We'll take the same choices everyone else in Ireland has thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 09:00:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 08:55:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 05, 2023, 04:22:31 PM
Anyone any more news on this option 3 being available to clubs tomorrow night seems strange for Antrim to just leave it out as an option!

Ok I'm going to stick my neck on the block and leave me open for Eoc to ridicule me  ;D

We are a dual county, fixtures playing a big part due to the recommendations of a 60 hour wait between playing minor and senior yes could be argued to look at fixtures again and make it work but that was originally agreed last year by the clubs... now because of Croke changing things it's put us in a position where option three isn't being discussed.

But hey, there's a meeting soon with the clubs.

Some clubs will want it because it suits their chances at minor, I know crazy view ;D let's say you have a sensational player who'd make the difference, hmm struggling to know which club would have that type  ;D

Anyways it's (I think up for debate soon enough)

If we'd loads of referees it would help massively also, loads of different factors to take on board
We'll take the same choices everyone else in Ireland has thanks.

Make sure your delegate puts that forward
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 06, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
Does our county secretary speak for Antrim or Dublin....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 06, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
Does our county secretary speak for Antrim or Dublin....?

Who pays his wages?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 06, 2023, 09:46:26 AM
Good to see Sean Oneill get some meaningful game time on Saturday. Mick had a terrific game in nets, and corner back and , wing back! covered some ground and played some great ball. Starting to take some shape under Andy, still very open at the back but getter better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 06, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
Does our county secretary speak for Antrim or Dublin....?

Who pays his wages?

Gaa HQ & Antrim I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 09:00:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 08:55:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 05, 2023, 04:22:31 PM
Anyone any more news on this option 3 being available to clubs tomorrow night seems strange for Antrim to just leave it out as an option!

Ok I'm going to stick my neck on the block and leave me open for Eoc to ridicule me  ;D

We are a dual county, fixtures playing a big part due to the recommendations of a 60 hour wait between playing minor and senior yes could be argued to look at fixtures again and make it work but that was originally agreed last year by the clubs... now because of Croke changing things it's put us in a position where option three isn't being discussed.

But hey, there's a meeting soon with the clubs.

Some clubs will want it because it suits their chances at minor, I know crazy view ;D let's say you have a sensational player who'd make the difference, hmm struggling to know which club would have that type  ;D

Anyways it's (I think up for debate soon enough)

If we'd loads of referees it would help massively also, loads of different factors to take on board
We'll take the same choices everyone else in Ireland has thanks.

Make sure your delegate puts that forward
Yeah they will be in the queue of 40 clubs putting it forward.
By the way the top County board men will be proud of you trying to explain the unexplainable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 09:00:27 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 08:55:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 05, 2023, 04:22:31 PM
Anyone any more news on this option 3 being available to clubs tomorrow night seems strange for Antrim to just leave it out as an option!

Ok I'm going to stick my neck on the block and leave me open for Eoc to ridicule me  ;D

We are a dual county, fixtures playing a big part due to the recommendations of a 60 hour wait between playing minor and senior yes could be argued to look at fixtures again and make it work but that was originally agreed last year by the clubs... now because of Croke changing things it's put us in a position where option three isn't being discussed.

But hey, there's a meeting soon with the clubs.

Some clubs will want it because it suits their chances at minor, I know crazy view ;D let's say you have a sensational player who'd make the difference, hmm struggling to know which club would have that type  ;D

Anyways it's (I think up for debate soon enough)

If we'd loads of referees it would help massively also, loads of different factors to take on board
We'll take the same choices everyone else in Ireland has thanks.

Make sure your delegate puts that forward
Yeah they will be in the queue of 40 clubs putting it forward.
By the way the top County board men will be proud of you trying to explain the unexplainable.

Hopefully you get what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 06, 2023, 10:41:23 AM
To be treated the same as the rest of Ireland with regards the choices would be a good starting point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2023, 10:46:34 AM
I was reading on another thread that Wexford don't have that option 3 either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2023, 10:51:38 AM
What is the feeling then of how things will go?

Are we going back to the u12 u14 etc

Or are there any clubs holding out to next year for the change?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2023, 10:46:34 AM
I was reading on another thread that Wexford don't have that option 3 either.

No way? They'll be having a fit there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 06, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
Does our county secretary speak for Antrim or Dublin....?

Who pays his wages?

Gaa HQ & Antrim I believe

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 06, 2023, 05:32:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 06, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
Does our county secretary speak for Antrim or Dublin....?

Who pays his wages?

Gaa HQ & Antrim I believe

Fixed that for you.

Correct J C.....hasn't even a vote on our affairs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on February 06, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
Staying at odd numbers for this season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 06, 2023, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 06, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
Staying at odd numbers for this season.

And move to even next year?

Was that discussed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 06, 2023, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 06, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
Staying at odd numbers for this season.

And move to even next year?

Was that discussed?

Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 06, 2023, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 06, 2023, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 06, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
Staying at odd numbers for this season.

And move to even next year?

Was that discussed?

Yes
Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated because a lot of young lads underage careers have just been cut short tonight, which is a sad outcome in my opinion.  For many, they'll probably just pack it in now. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated
[/quote]

I think we all know the answer to that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 06, 2023, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 06, 2023, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on February 06, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
Staying at odd numbers for this season.

And move to even next year?

Was that discussed?

Yes
Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated because a lot of young lads underage careers have just been cut short tonight, which is a sad outcome in my opinion.  For many, they'll probably just pack it in now.

Should never have been changed in the first place.. I've never seen the actual benefits of changing it.

Moving from under 17 to senior is a big step nowadays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated

I think we all know the answer to that
[/quote]

The Chair & Secretary basically denied the existence of  option 3. Ten minutes later, the Central Council delegate ( think hes Terry Reilly) informed county committee that option 3 was on the table ! Christ Almight ! Think he-'ll be next chair !
Also some confusion about  Reserve Football fixtures being played on a Sunday. You couldnt make it up tbh !!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 11:08:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated

I think we all know the answer to that

The Chair & Secretary basically denied the existence of  option 3. Ten minutes later, the Central Council delegate ( think hes Terry Reilly) informed county committee that option 3 was on the table ! Christ Almight ! Think he-'ll be next chair !
Also some confusion about  Reserve Football fixtures being played on a Sunday. You couldnt make it up tbh !!!
[/quote]

With Antrims board you probably could
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on February 06, 2023, 11:12:15 PM
Cahair O Kane reporting on twitter

' Armagh go back to U18s with immediate effect. Antrim clubs
have voted to remain at U17 for this year, reverting to U18 next year. Clubs in Antrim chose in the end not to include option 3, allowing 18-year-olds to play adult, as part of the final vote.'

If there's a stupid way of doing something Antrim will find it. At odds with the vast gaa opinion on this matter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 11:40:49 PM
So any kid who turned 17 last year might aswell pack it in then? Depressing really
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 11:53:42 PM
Suppose you had to be there to hear the ins and outs of it, hard to fathom how Armagh are able to do change back and not decouple an 18 year old from senior football yet we can't find a way. Other counties just seem so much better at everything than us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 07, 2023, 12:48:37 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 11:53:42 PM
Suppose you had to be there to hear the ins and outs of it, hard to fathom how Armagh are able to do change back and not decouple an 18 year old from senior football yet we can't find a way. Other counties just seem so much better at everything than us.
Minor is U17 for 2023 so lads in 18th year will be able to.play in adult competitions in 2023, surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 07, 2023, 06:42:57 AM
We now seem to have a self appointed Bourgeoise sub committee making all the decisions within the County with Casement or whatever they eventually have to call it and whenever it's eventually built being the prize.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)

Either we got more referees or they will be doubling up on Sundays!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 07, 2023, 07:45:46 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 07, 2023, 06:42:57 AM
We now seem to have a self appointed Bourgeoise sub committee making all the decisions within the County with Casement or whatever they eventually have to call it and whenever it's eventually built being the prize.

What's this about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 07, 2023, 08:00:31 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 07, 2023, 06:42:57 AM
We now seem to have a self appointed Bourgeoise sub committee making all the decisions within the County with Casement or whatever they eventually have to call it and whenever it's eventually built being the prize.

I see someone becoming more and more involved with Antrim Gaa & im not overly surprised,  a strategic decision I'm guessing that was made with as you say Casement as the prize, for his other main job...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 08:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)

Either we got more referees or they will be doubling up on Sundays!

Or the county could just not have everything on the same day?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 08:43:44 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 08:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)

Either we got more referees or they will be doubling up on Sundays!

Or the county could just not have everything on the same day?

We are a dual county, I'm not sure we have the days in the week to fix all the grades... from under 12 up and with the need to look after ladies football and camogie the logistics of things become a hell of a lot harder, its easier for the likes of Tyrone and Armagh to have the fixtures in place if 90% of the games are one code...

County panel needs also play a part in this also

I've not got the ins and outs of it but I don't think its as easy as people think

It's disappointing that this may result in losing kids, the county could look at a separate competition to facilitate that lost aged group but how do you find the time to fit them in..

What's happening at county level then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 08:44:57 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 07, 2023, 12:48:37 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 06, 2023, 11:53:42 PM
Suppose you had to be there to hear the ins and outs of it, hard to fathom how Armagh are able to do change back and not decouple an 18 year old from senior football yet we can't find a way. Other counties just seem so much better at everything than us.
Minor is U17 for 2023 so lads in 18th year will be able to.play in adult competitions in 2023, surely
Yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2023, 09:03:49 AM
Jeez so senior, minor, and minor all scheduled on a Sunday..

Cargin have had under-age activity on Sunday for a long time, boys and girls 6-11 boys and girls with both pitches hives of activity do the 'powers that be' suggest how such is carried on.
Or just how are those clubs without a second pitch cope.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 07, 2023, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)

Either we got more referees or they will be doubling up on Sundays!


Gonna be some whinging when teams don't have referees for some games. Aren't enough to go round already, now they want 3 games fulfilled in 1 day....and that will also impact on LGFA who play their senior games on a Sunday evening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 07, 2023, 09:03:49 AM
Jeez so senior, minor, and minor all scheduled on a Sunday..

Cargin have had under-age activity on Sunday for a long time, boys and girls 6-11 boys and girls with both pitches hives of activity do the 'powers that be' suggest how such is carried on.
Or just how are those clubs without a second pitch cope.....??

When the Sundays are hurling you can fit them in no problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 09:10:57 AM
Does anyone know for certain what's happening with promotion/relegation this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 09:13:09 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 07, 2023, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)

Either we got more referees or they will be doubling up on Sundays!


Gonna be some whinging when teams don't have referees for some games. Aren't enough to go round already, now they want 3 games fulfilled in 1 day....and that will also impact on LGFA who play their senior games on a Sunday evening

Why was reserve moved from Friday nights?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 09:13:09 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 07, 2023, 09:06:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:21:38 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 11:13:43 PM
What grades will be played on which days?
Well based on tonight from top table -  minor, reserve and senior are on a Sunday in football and hurling ( hopefully on alternate weeks)

Either we got more referees or they will be doubling up on Sundays!


Gonna be some whinging when teams don't have referees for some games. Aren't enough to go round already, now they want 3 games fulfilled in 1 day....and that will also impact on LGFA who play their senior games on a Sunday evening

Why was reserve moved from Friday nights?

Clubs wanted the seniors and reserves playing on the same day...

We asked to go into Div 3 again but senior clubs didn't want second teams in their leagues (we finished mid table)

No doubt there will be other games on Friday night

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 07, 2023, 09:25:41 AM
Were minors, reserves and seniors not on Sundays last year as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:36:08 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 07, 2023, 09:25:41 AM
Were minors, reserves and seniors not on Sundays last year as well?
Reserves was mostly Friday night I think, but minors and senior was definitely Sundays.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 07, 2023, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 11:08:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated

I think we all know the answer to that

The Chair & Secretary basically denied the existence of  option 3. Ten minutes later, the Central Council delegate ( think hes Terry Reilly) informed county committee that option 3 was on the table ! Christ Almight ! Think he-'ll be next chair !
Also some confusion about  Reserve Football fixtures being played on a Sunday. You couldnt make it up tbh !!!

That's one hell of an insight into the state of decision making and democracy in our county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 07, 2023, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated

I think we all know the answer to that

The Chair & Secretary basically denied the existence of  option 3. Ten minutes later, the Central Council delegate ( think hes Terry Reilly) informed county committee that option 3 was on the table ! Christ Almight ! Think he-'ll be next chair !
Also some confusion about  Reserve Football fixtures being played on a Sunday. You couldnt make it up tbh !!!
[/quote]

Heard that as well. Current set-up have done a great job steadying finances within the County but I don't think any of them are close to day to day issues affecting clubs as there's not much PR that goes with it. It is difficult to get administrators who are good at both so we are left with issues like this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 07, 2023, 11:38:18 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 07, 2023, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated

I think we all know the answer to that

The Chair & Secretary basically denied the existence of  option 3. Ten minutes later, the Central Council delegate ( think hes Terry Reilly) informed county committee that option 3 was on the table ! Christ Almight ! Think he-'ll be next chair !
Also some confusion about  Reserve Football fixtures being played on a Sunday. You couldnt make it up tbh !!!

Heard that as well. Current set-up have done a great job steadying finances within the County but I don't think any of them are close to day to day issues affecting clubs as there's not much PR that goes with it. It is difficult to get administrators who are good at both so we are left with issues like this.
[/quote]

Oliver Kelly, and Gerry Barry RIP.......looking down with wry smiles apiece.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 07, 2023, 12:16:42 PM
What sort of coin are these administrators on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on February 07, 2023, 12:19:40 PM
Does it not make more sense to change in 2024 seeing all teams are back already? I think Antrim have made a wise move, teams can prepare for 2024.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 07, 2023, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 07, 2023, 12:19:40 PM
Does it not make more sense to change in 2024 seeing all teams are back already? I think Antrim have made a wise move, teams can prepare for 2024.

Think the wise move was to discuss it back in November when everyone knew it was going to be brought up and make the call then.

While officially the word didn't come from HQ to do it then, surely the county could have had to foresight to at least get everything in place should the situation arise.

Waiting until now, after clubs have started training was daft and unfortunately the wrong decision is the right one in this instance due to the timeframe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 07, 2023, 02:52:56 PM
So, in 2024, Antrim are reverting back to U18 as minor, but are they decoupling at 18 or 17?

Having U18 as minor and allowing the 18yo's to play adult was option 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2023, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 07, 2023, 11:38:18 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 07, 2023, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 06, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 06, 2023, 10:46:01 PM

Well I hope all three options were thoroughly debated

I think we all know the answer to that

The Chair & Secretary basically denied the existence of  option 3. Ten minutes later, the Central Council delegate ( think hes Terry Reilly) informed county committee that option 3 was on the table ! Christ Almight ! Think he-'ll be next chair !
Also some confusion about  Reserve Football fixtures being played on a Sunday. You couldnt make it up tbh !!!

Heard that as well. Current set-up have done a great job steadying finances within the County but I don't think any of them are close to day to day issues affecting clubs as there's not much PR that goes with it. It is difficult to get administrators who are good at both so we are left with issues like this.

Oliver Kelly, and Gerry Barry RIP.......looking down with wry smiles apiece.....
[/quote]

::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 07, 2023, 02:52:56 PM
So, in 2024, Antrim are reverting back to U18 as minor, but are they decoupling at 18 or 17?

Having U18 as minor and allowing the 18yo's to play adult was option 3.

What is happening at county level in minor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:33:14 PM
So Tyrone and Armagh have now both changed to even grades 12-18, with last year minors allowed to play senior. Baffling this option wasn't on the table for Antrim Gael's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:33:14 PM
So Tyrone and Armagh have now both changed to even grades 12-18, with last year minors allowed to play senior. Baffling this option wasn't on the table for Antrim Gael's.

#buildcasement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 07, 2023, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:33:14 PM
So Tyrone and Armagh have now both changed to even grades 12-18, with last year minors allowed to play senior. Baffling this option wasn't on the table for Antrim Gael's.

#buildcasement
Lagging behind every other county as usual, but yeah build casement 😆
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 07, 2023, 10:23:54 PM
Fermanagh stay u17 and Derry eventually cave in to give clubs a vote next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 10:26:10 PM
Not all rosy in the other counties as there's clubs that trained as odd no age group and now reverting to even numbers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 08, 2023, 06:09:15 AM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/casement-park-new-community-forum-26182058

Now the fun begins, the proverbial Wolf in Sheep's Clothing possibly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LC on February 08, 2023, 09:10:09 AM
The article makes reference to economic opportunities during the construction process.  From past experience there is never a shortage of options when it comes to 'security' for your site in this part of the world.  Worked on a job one time and the security was a cross community effort, one dodgy boy landed on a Thursday and the other dodgy boy landed on the Friday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 09:16:32 AM
Quote from: LC on February 08, 2023, 09:10:09 AM
The article makes reference to economic opportunities during the construction process.  From past experience there is never a shortage of options when it comes to 'security' for your site in this part of the world.  Worked on a job one time and the security was a cross community effort, one dodgy boy landed on a Thursday and the other dodgy boy landed on the Friday.

Not as much of this 'security' stuff goes on anymore like it did in the past, probably that carry on still in Loyalist areas not so much in West Belfast...

With so much attention going on with this project it would be complete madness to sabotage it with underhand dealings, no doubt certain local business men and local construction business will tender for these jobs but lets see what happens and then make a comment..

Some posters can't wait to see it failing

I'm still not sure its getting built, still a serious amount of projects have been started and not a stone turned in production
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 08, 2023, 06:09:15 AM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/casement-park-new-community-forum-26182058

Now the fun begins, the proverbial Wolf in Sheep's Clothing possibly?

What was the odds of Harry Connolly being involved ? 1/100 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2023, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 08, 2023, 06:09:15 AM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/casement-park-new-community-forum-26182058

Now the fun begins, the proverbial Wolf in Sheep's Clothing possibly?

What was the odds of Harry Connolly being involved ? 1/100 ?

I would imagine he will be running the show with the previous minister in the background.

Are there 'expenses' paid for this group/ forum?

Unless the Irish gov't step in with additional funding this project is in serious jeopardy. Happened to hear the new estimates for the entire development  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2023, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 08, 2023, 06:09:15 AM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/casement-park-new-community-forum-26182058

Now the fun begins, the proverbial Wolf in Sheep's Clothing possibly?

What was the odds of Harry Connolly being involved ? 1/100 ?

I would imagine he will be running the show with the previous minister in the background.

Are there 'expenses' paid for this group/ forum?

Unless the Irish gov't step in with additional funding this project is in serious jeopardy. Happened to hear the new estimates for the entire development  :o

I see his right hand man is becoming more and more embedded in Antrim Gaa, you could see it coming a mile away. Well anyone that has been paying attention could
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2023, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2023, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 08, 2023, 06:09:15 AM
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/casement-park-new-community-forum-26182058

Now the fun begins, the proverbial Wolf in Sheep's Clothing possibly?

What was the odds of Harry Connolly being involved ? 1/100 ?

I would imagine he will be running the show with the previous minister in the background.

Are there 'expenses' paid for this group/ forum?

Unless the Irish gov't step in with additional funding this project is in serious jeopardy. Happened to hear the new estimates for the entire development  :o

I see his right hand man is becoming more and more embedded in Antrim Gaa, you could see it coming a mile away. Well anyone that has been paying attention could

Said it right from the word go, how many groups were hanging on the coat tails of this project.

The only 'rep' from a sporting background that I could see technically not even a member of the association. The only surprise I had with this was the fact that a certain 'hurling legend' wasnt front and centre.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 08, 2023, 01:07:36 PM
You've only got to look at their roles presently and that'll give ya good idea of whats coming next! I agree with MR there are so many hurdles to jump before a sod is cut never mind the funding issues. Effectively this has the potential to be a Management Company via the back door and once community is mentioned thats funding avenue not directly connected to GAA and that takes on a whole new arena. You'd be lucky to get 15 Gaa games a year at this rate. Antrim Gaa has lost its biggest asset and the horse has long bolted, and nobody being held to account!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 08, 2023, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:33:14 PM
So Tyrone and Armagh have now both changed to even grades 12-18, with last year minors allowed to play senior. Baffling this option wasn't on the table for Antrim Gael's.

It might have been asked before, but how does this affect inter county minor club games e.g. St Paul's tournament, when some play u17 and some u18?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 08, 2023, 02:36:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 08, 2023, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 07, 2023, 09:33:14 PM
So Tyrone and Armagh have now both changed to even grades 12-18, with last year minors allowed to play senior. Baffling this option wasn't on the table for Antrim Gael's.

It might have been asked before, but how does this affect inter county minor club games e.g. St Paul's tournament, when some play u17 and some u18?
Its not really that important but Id imagine this tournament will revert to u18 if the majority of counties change. Any remaining u17 counties will enter and include a few u18 players to ensure they are competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 02:41:21 PM
So county minor then is still under 17
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
What a shitshow by the GAA.  (Irrespective of what antrim have done !)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
What a shitshow by the GAA.  (Irrespective of what antrim have done !)

Option 3, which ones have been questioning, came with a lot of stipulations that probably provided more hassle than its worth. When it was eventually brought to the table was it then discussed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 08, 2023, 03:11:11 PM
I am sure this is information your club secretary will have sure you all have it   ;)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
What a shitshow by the GAA.  (Irrespective of what antrim have done !)

Option 3, which ones have been questioning, came with a lot of stipulations that probably provided more hassle than its worth. When it was eventually brought to the table was it then discussed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 08, 2023, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
What a shitshow by the GAA.  (Irrespective of what antrim have done !)

Option 3, which ones have been questioning, came with a lot of stipulations that probably provided more hassle than its worth. When it was eventually brought to the table was it then discussed?

3. Alternatively, a county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so, and retain decoupling at 17 with at least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) being organized between U18 and Adult. Players in their 18th year will only be allowed to play for or train with Adult teams post March 1st and once the signed consent of the player, their parents/guardians and the Club Executive has been provided. The Task Force also recommends that no player should have to play an Adult and U18 game within 60 hours of each other and request County CCC's to adhere to this policy.


A recommendation is not an enforceable rule so in theory there's nothing to stop an 18yo playing an adult game the following night or two nights after a minor game or vice versa.

County CCC's would find it hard to know if this recommendation was enforced or not, Croke Park know that and are probably covered by this ambiguity.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:15:19 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 08, 2023, 03:11:11 PM
I am sure this is information your club secretary will have sure you all have it   ;)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
What a shitshow by the GAA.  (Irrespective of what antrim have done !)

Option 3, which ones have been questioning, came with a lot of stipulations that probably provided more hassle than its worth. When it was eventually brought to the table was it then discussed?

She didn't attend it funnily enough, was chatting to her at a club game on Sunday so knew she wasn't there, hence why I'm asking the experts here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2023, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
What a shitshow by the GAA.  (Irrespective of what antrim have done !)

Option 3, which ones have been questioning, came with a lot of stipulations that probably provided more hassle than its worth. When it was eventually brought to the table was it then discussed?

3. Alternatively, a county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so, and retain decoupling at 17 with at least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) being organized between U18 and Adult. Players in their 18th year will only be allowed to play for or train with Adult teams post March 1st and once the signed consent of the player, their parents/guardians and the Club Executive has been provided. The Task Force also recommends that no player should have to play an Adult and U18 game within 60 hours of each other and request County CCC's to adhere to this policy.


A recommendation is not an enforceable rule so in theory there's nothing to stop an 18yo playing an adult game the following night or two nights after a minor game or vice versa.

County CCC's would find it hard to know if this recommendation was enforced or not, Croke Park know that and are probably covered by this ambiguity.

So wouldn't effect the likes of insurance and so on if a lad is hurt?  Or burnt out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
Hearing that 2 x Lavey Downeys are training regularly with St Brigids (who have been back out for six weeks at least) and that the transfer request is now officially in the hands of St Brigids club. Club members apparently at odds whether or not to accept them is what I've been told.

Heresay....but the source is usually on the money.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
Hearing that 2 x Lavey Downeys are training regularly with St Brigids (who have been back out for six weeks at least) and that the transfer request is now officially in the hands of St Brigids club. Club members apparently at odds whether or not to accept them is what I've been told.

Heresay....but the source is usually on the money.

Was there a transfer deadline date? I know that because on the system you can see any pendings
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 08, 2023, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
Hearing that 2 x Lavey Downeys are training regularly with St Brigids (who have been back out for six weeks at least) and that the transfer request is now officially in the hands of St Brigids club. Club members apparently at odds whether or not to accept them is what I've been told.

Heresay....but the source is usually on the money.

Intercounty transfers need to go through the Ulster Council IIRC.

Wonder did Lavey sign off on them as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 08, 2023, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 02:41:21 PM
So county minor then is still under 17

Yes county minor stays u17
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 08, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2023, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
Hearing that 2 x Lavey Downeys are training regularly with St Brigids (who have been back out for six weeks at least) and that the transfer request is now officially in the hands of St Brigids club. Club members apparently at odds whether or not to accept them is what I've been told.

Heresay....but the source is usually on the money.

Intercounty transfers need to go through the Ulster Council IIRC.

Wonder did Lavey sign off on them as well.



There is no deadline date on intercounty transfers. They are agreed all year ! There is a 10 day turn around once the application is submitted , subject to no objections!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 04:04:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 08, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2023, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
Hearing that 2 x Lavey Downeys are training regularly with St Brigids (who have been back out for six weeks at least) and that the transfer request is now officially in the hands of St Brigids club. Club members apparently at odds whether or not to accept them is what I've been told.

Heresay....but the source is usually on the money.

Intercounty transfers need to go through the Ulster Council IIRC.

Wonder did Lavey sign off on them as well.



There is no deadline date on intercounty transfers. They are agreed all year ! There is a 10 day turn around once the application is submitted , subject to no objections!

Ah, is there a date deadline for if they are coming over from England and so on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 08, 2023, 05:19:13 PM
Think our boys may well be the odd ones out...

Jeez we are playing catch up again.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2023, 05:22:01 PM
Our first senior squad session of the year was last night. Cargin start again on Friday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 08, 2023, 05:33:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 05:22:01 PM
Our first senior squad session of the year was last night. Cargin start again on Friday night.
Any word on D McAleese BS, absolutely no luck with injuries that man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 08, 2023, 05:33:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 04:04:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 08, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2023, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
Hearing that 2 x Lavey Downeys are training regularly with St Brigids (who have been back out for six weeks at least) and that the transfer request is now officially in the hands of St Brigids club. Club members apparently at odds whether or not to accept them is what I've been told.

Heresay....but the source is usually on the money.

Intercounty transfers need to go through the Ulster Council IIRC.

Wonder did Lavey sign off on them as well.



There is no deadline date on intercounty transfers. They are agreed all year ! There is a 10 day turn around once the application is submitted , subject to no objections!

Ah, is there a date deadline for if they are coming over from England and so on?

Not that Im aware off, but you can only make one transfer per year. ie  you can only play in one county championship per calendar year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 08, 2023, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 05:22:01 PM
Our first senior squad session of the year was last night. Cargin start again on Friday night.

BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 08, 2023, 08:08:45 PM
Broken jaw, getting surgery on Friday -  plate inserted and rewired. The ball he won that resulted in that was probably 70/30 against him. That's Dermot... twice in two years!

Out for 8 to 10 weeks, Tailltean Cup at best from an Antrim perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 08, 2023, 08:11:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 08:08:45 PM
Broken jaw, getting surgery on Friday -  plate inserted and rewired. The ball he won that resulted in that was probably 70/30 against him. That's Dermot... twice in two years!

Out for 8 to 10 weeks, Tailltean Cup at best from an Antrim perspective.
That's shocking, speedy recovery hopefully. Yes he's definitely fearless in the tackle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 09, 2023, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 08, 2023, 08:08:45 PM
Broken jaw, getting surgery on Friday -  plate inserted and rewired. The ball he won that resulted in that was probably 70/30 against him. That's Dermot... twice in two years!

Out for 8 to 10 weeks, Tailltean Cup at best from an Antrim perspective.


Speedy recovery he's one of the good guys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 09, 2023, 10:06:01 AM
Best wishes to Dermot, a terrific and brave player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 09, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
Down follow Antrim and Fermanagh in keeping odd age groups for 2003 and going even in 2024.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 09, 2023, 12:14:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 09, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
Down follow Antrim and Fermanagh in keeping odd age groups for 2003 and going even in 2024.

We're going even in 2024 but we're decoupling at 17 next year, I don't think Antrim are at the minute.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 09, 2023, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 09, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
Down follow Antrim and Fermanagh in keeping odd age groups for 2003 and going even in 2024.
Donegal also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 09, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
Hearing a well known Derry player is Cargin bound 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 09, 2023, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 09, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
Hearing a well known Derry player is Cargin bound 👀

But I am sworn to secrecy........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:16:14 PM
Surely Cargin wouldn't be taking players from other clubs? Tut tut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 09, 2023, 10:21:01 PM
I can't see Cargin taking in players at the expense of their own club players. Plenty of young talent itching for game time there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:25:05 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 09, 2023, 10:21:01 PM
I can't see Cargin taking in players at the expense of their own club players. Plenty of young talent itching for game time there.
Would need to be a seriously talented player considering the young players CB tells us about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 09, 2023, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:16:14 PM
Surely Cargin wouldn't be taking players from other clubs? Tut tut


The milltown Azzuri never did such ☺️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 09, 2023, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:16:14 PM
Surely Cargin wouldn't be taking players from other clubs? Tut tut

The pot calling the kettle black
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 09, 2023, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:16:14 PM
Surely Cargin wouldn't be taking players from other clubs? Tut tut

The pot calling the kettle black

You don't get irony at all lad but keep it coming.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2023, 10:25:05 PM
Quote from: stiffler on February 09, 2023, 10:21:01 PM
I can't see Cargin taking in players at the expense of their own club players. Plenty of young talent itching for game time there.
Would need to be a seriously talented player considering the young players CB tells us about
Have no say in such matters nowadays......nor in County affairs I'm afraid......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 09, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
Hearing a well known Derry player is Cargin bound 👀

L n P. did not say he/she was coming to play.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2023, 08:48:47 AM
Things must not have worked out elsewhere, was a difficult gig though, wish him the best, good lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2023, 09:18:15 AM
Why the riddles...is it a secret?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
[/quote


Just one player. Former Coleraine striker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 09:43:58 AM
It's hardly Skinner?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
[/quote


Just one player. Former Coleraine striker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 09:43:58 AM
It's hardly Skinner?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
[/quote


Just one player. Former Coleraine striker







No this one already has Cargin connections
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 09:43:58 AM
It's hardly Skinner?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
[/quote


Just one player. Former Coleraine striker







No this one already has Cargin connections

Hand up I have soccer connections, but in West Ham and Carrick Rangers.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2023, 10:15:30 AM
You wouldn't leave Magherafelt for Toome..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 10:20:58 AM
Don't think Cargin require another agitator standing in the dugout with a notebook under the auspice of 'reporter'

Quote from: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 09:43:58 AM
It's hardly Skinner?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
[/quote


Just one player. Former Coleraine striker







No this one already has Cargin connections

Hand up I have soccer connections, but in West Ham and Carrick Rangers.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 10:32:47 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 10:20:58 AM
Don't think Cargin require another agitator standing in the dugout with a notebook under the auspice of 'reporter'

Quote from: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 10, 2023, 09:43:58 AM
It's hardly Skinner?

Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 10, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
Apparently Shane McGuigan and Conor Glass are moving to Cargin. They'll struggle to get their place though.
[/quote


Just one player. Former Coleraine striker







No this one already has Cargin connections

Hand up I have soccer connections, but in West Ham and Carrick Rangers.....

😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: harryR on February 10, 2023, 11:30:36 AM
St Brigid's have strengthened with a few of the Downeys from Lavey???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2023, 12:30:15 PM
Harry are you making a statement or asking a question?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 10, 2023, 01:31:05 PM
The game in Thurles is Saturday week at 6pm I see, makes it very tempting for a road trip and a stop over in Hayes 🍻
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: harryR on February 10, 2023, 11:30:36 AM
St Brigid's have strengthened with a few of the Downeys from Lavey???






St Brigids the team to beat this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 10, 2023, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 10, 2023, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: harryR on February 10, 2023, 11:30:36 AM
St Brigid's have strengthened with a few of the Downeys from Lavey???

Be interesting to see what way the musgrave men shape up this year, didn't see any progression from them in the last number of years under AMG , perhaps new mgt can get something more from them but I doubt it.





St Brigids the team to beat this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 10, 2023, 02:43:19 PM
St Brigid's a team that I believe have been underperforming for a while. Capable of much more from that group of players so would not be surprised if they step it up a level under a new manager.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 03:02:06 PM
Ulster Council take their time in signing transfers...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 10, 2023, 03:20:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 03:02:06 PM
Ulster Council take their time in signing transfers...

https://crokepark-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/r/personal/ruairi_harvey_gaa_ie/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?guestaccesstoken=Gc2myfwceMcTJO0Sm78dGMt4Up6MH9VlzlUxxsMV%2Fgk%3D&docid=04bc452cba06b4bfea0d1ed80a2b5fac6&action=default (https://crokepark-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/r/personal/ruairi_harvey_gaa_ie/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?guestaccesstoken=Gc2myfwceMcTJO0Sm78dGMt4Up6MH9VlzlUxxsMV%2Fgk%3D&docid=04bc452cba06b4bfea0d1ed80a2b5fac6&action=default)


That might be useful to follow then......

Credit to Tyrdub here: http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg2180222#msg2180222 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg2180222#msg2180222)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 10, 2023, 06:20:38 PM
To be fair big Emmett is from good Cargin stock. Only 31 and will be a big handful at FF.

Any other transfer activity around the Loughshore CB??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 10, 2023, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 10, 2023, 06:20:38 PM
To be fair big Emmett is from good Cargin stock. Only 31 and will be a big handful at FF.

Any other transfer activity around the Loughshore CB??
Il answer this one for CB, naw nothing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on February 10, 2023, 08:37:25 PM
Cant see Cargin signing any outsiders with the young players they have coming through. They have had a few big signings over the years all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2023, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 10, 2023, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 10, 2023, 06:20:38 PM
To be fair big Emmett is from good Cargin stock. Only 31 and will be a big handful at FF.

Any other transfer activity around the Loughshore CB??
Il answer this one for CB, naw nothing

Rumour mill says otherwise. And it's never wrong 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 10, 2023, 09:04:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 10, 2023, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 10, 2023, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 10, 2023, 06:20:38 PM
To be fair big Emmett is from good Cargin stock. Only 31 and will be a big handful at FF.

Any other transfer activity around the Loughshore CB??
Il answer this one for CB, naw nothing

Rumour mill says otherwise. And it's never wrong 😉

The big man just scored in Newry.....Price is gone way above a poor club's means.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 10, 2023, 11:08:13 PM
Have the Burke lads left Creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 11, 2023, 06:45:38 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 10, 2023, 11:08:13 PM
Have the Burke lads left Creggan?
Trying to leave apparently , (not looking to go to far away  either )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2023, 08:29:51 AM
EOC can you confirm or deny any truth in this? Your "Naw Nothing" response previously looks wide of the mark. Aren't Burkes half Cargin to begin with?? Other half Newbridge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 11, 2023, 08:51:40 AM
The 'transfer market', in and around Toome has been lively of late....wtf how is Cargin going to cope, will need to start work on a third pitch.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 11, 2023, 08:52:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2023, 08:29:51 AM
EOC can you confirm or deny any truth in this? Your "Naw Nothing" response previously looks wide of the mark. Aren't Burkes half Cargin to begin with?? Other half Newbridge.
You'd be better asking the Burkes themselves Bannside, or someone from Creggan.
Seen our lads out on the pitch last night, exciting year ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2023, 09:27:01 AM
Under 20s playing Monaghan in Dunsilly at midday in Leo Murphy Cup for anyone interested....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2023, 09:33:59 AM
Minors playing Armagh in Jordanstown at 11!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2023, 09:37:56 AM
Seniors got a game too, competitive challenge lined up behind closed doors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 11, 2023, 09:39:50 AM
Transferring between clubs ?
Disgraceful behaviour  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2023, 03:14:44 PM
Under 20s off to good start with fully deserved 3 point victory against Down. Some excellent individual performances into the bargain. Ryan McQuillan MOM for me, looks like a great prospect.

Shout out to keeper Shea Laverty, couple of great saves and three 45s converted that made the difference.

Tyrone up next next week in Garvaghy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 11, 2023, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2023, 08:29:51 AM
EOC can you confirm or deny any truth in this? Your "Naw Nothing" response previously looks wide of the mark. Aren't Burkes half Cargin to begin with?? Other half Newbridge.
Tiernan  transferred the us  a few years back but only stayed for one year (they would be first cousins of the Burke's who played for us)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 11, 2023, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 11, 2023, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 11, 2023, 08:29:51 AM
EOC can you confirm or deny any truth in this? Your "Naw Nothing" response previously looks wide of the mark. Aren't Burkes half Cargin to begin with?? Other half Newbridge.
Tiernan  transferred the us  a few years back but only stayed for one year (they would be first cousins of the Burke's who played for us)

Brothers....


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 12, 2023, 04:33:29 PM
A fair few in the ulster colleges scene not too upset that HTC lost today, seems the rules are well and truly bent to allow a lot of their players to play. Not sure if 100 percent true but hearing lads out plumbing 4 days a week and in school one day a week we're playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 12, 2023, 08:02:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 12, 2023, 04:33:29 PM
A fair few in the ulster colleges scene not too upset that HTC lost today, seems the rules are well and truly bent to allow a lot of their players to play. Not sure if 100 percent true but hearing lads out plumbing 4 days a week and in school one day a week we're playing.



True enuf...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 12, 2023, 09:40:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 12, 2023, 04:33:29 PM
A fair few in the ulster colleges scene not too upset that HTC lost today, seems the rules are well and truly bent to allow a lot of their players to play. Not sure if 100 percent true but hearing lads out plumbing 4 days a week and in school one day a week we're playing.

Correct EOC. HTC have made a holy mockery of the rules last year and again this year. It's as bad if not worse as your outline above. Lads enrolled just to play football - the powers that be in the school should be ashamed. Ridiculous and disgraceful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wolfetones on February 13, 2023, 12:13:11 AM
I think today completely burst the bubble surrounding the HTC coaching team. On paper, they had the stronger team, but the CBS looked like a team, while HTC looked like a gather up of individuals.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2023, 12:26:55 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on February 13, 2023, 12:13:11 AM
I think today completely burst the bubble surrounding the HTC coaching team. On paper, they had the stronger team, but the CBS looked like a team, while HTC looked like a gather up of individuals.

What bubble?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2023, 07:06:53 AM
What have I missed here about HTC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 13, 2023, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 13, 2023, 07:06:53 AM
What have I missed here about HTC?

7 lads "repeating" an A-Level or 2, maybe in school a day or 2 per week, rest of the time out working. And it showed, the build on some of them lads was unreal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 13, 2023, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 13, 2023, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 13, 2023, 07:06:53 AM
What have I missed here about HTC?


7 lads "repeating" an A-Level or 2, maybe in school a day or 2 per week, rest of the time out working. And it showed, the build on some of them lads was unreal.

Indeed, just skating around the system for a couple of years but school was compliant in accepting such with a stoke of the pen.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 13, 2023, 01:56:59 PM
HTC were missing some boy through injury, I heard he put his back out building a footing last week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2023, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 13, 2023, 01:56:59 PM
HTC were missing some boy through injury, I heard he put his back out building a footing last week

Can be dodgy enough building an aul footing, obviously not following the safety standards, bending the knees and not over stretching, lifting the block over the wall will do it, specially in the morning when ya haven't had your tae
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 14, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
The team for Saturday will be interesting. This is a must win game, but there appear to be a lot of injuries within the team currently. The club season starting again shortly will really help things  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2023, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 14, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
The team for Saturday will be interesting. This is a must win game, but there appear to be a lot of injuries within the team currently. The club season starting again shortly will really help things  ::)

Club season starts in March, some teams only started back on Friday night, be hard pushed to get players up to a fitness standard no?

Antrim should go into this game confident enough, been steady progress against the two teams that came down from Div2, hopefully a win there and beat Longford who look in free fall at the moment, might secure our position in this league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 14, 2023, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2023, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 14, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
The team for Saturday will be interesting. This is a must win game, but there appear to be a lot of injuries within the team currently. The club season starting again shortly will really help things  ::)

Club season starts in March, some teams only started back on Friday night, be hard pushed to get players up to a fitness standard no?

Antrim should go into this game confident enough, been steady progress against the two teams that came down from Div2, hopefully a win there and beat Longford who look in free fall at the moment, might secure our position in this league

Club season, the Allianz Football league and the u20s play Meath all in the same weekend... what a mess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2023, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 14, 2023, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2023, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 14, 2023, 01:38:08 PM
The team for Saturday will be interesting. This is a must win game, but there appear to be a lot of injuries within the team currently. The club season starting again shortly will really help things  ::)

Club season starts in March, some teams only started back on Friday night, be hard pushed to get players up to a fitness standard no?

Antrim should go into this game confident enough, been steady progress against the two teams that came down from Div2, hopefully a win there and beat Longford who look in free fall at the moment, might secure our position in this league

Club season, the Allianz Football league and the u20s play Meath all in the same weekend... what a mess

I couldn't imagine sitting in on a fixture meeting and trying to arrange all fixtures to suit everyone's needs, the county set up is probably the main one then its down to the the start dates of the leagues and then the club championships.

Mix in that its a dual county and everyone looking their bit to suit them.

Seems like a nightmare looking in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 14, 2023, 02:36:57 PM
Feel great sympathy for the fixture guy Raymond, everyone always complaining at the inpossible task he has
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2023, 02:42:58 PM
Anyone know when league fixtures are out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 14, 2023, 02:36:57 PM
Feel great sympathy for the fixture guy Raymond, everyone always complaining at the inpossible task he has

Sure, Everybody Loves Raymond...

Love that show ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 14, 2023, 02:46:52 PM
Planning to go to Garvaghy and see under 20s and shoot on down to Thurles for 6pm throw in. Conor Sweeney a big loss for them, hopefully we can take 2 points up the road but it won't be easy.

Any update on injury list, a few hobbled off against Down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on February 14, 2023, 03:23:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2023, 02:42:58 PM
Anyone know when league fixtures are out?


Was thinking the same myself, any word?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 14, 2023, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 14, 2023, 03:23:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2023, 02:42:58 PM
Anyone know when league fixtures are out?


Was thinking the same myself, any word?

The day before it starts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 14, 2023, 03:47:18 PM
Come on lads, don't have MR2 to say it 'contact your secretary they will know' even though his could not provide any information on the U17/18 vote

Agreed doing fixtures must be impossible, a fortune to be made to anyone who can write a computer programme which does it without fault

Quote from: realisticsaff on February 14, 2023, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 14, 2023, 03:23:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2023, 02:42:58 PM
Anyone know when league fixtures are out?


Was thinking the same myself, any word?

The day before it starts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 14, 2023, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 14, 2023, 03:47:18 PM
Come on lads, don't have MR2 to say it 'contact your secretary they will know' even though his could not provide any information on the U17/18 vote

Agreed doing fixtures must be impossible, a fortune to be made to anyone who can write a computer programme which does it without fault

2 and a half weeks until it the league starts it would be nice for supporters to know who there teams are playing by looking on the Antrim website instead of contacting club committees and secretary's 

Quote from: realisticsaff on February 14, 2023, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 14, 2023, 03:23:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2023, 02:42:58 PM
Anyone know when league fixtures are out?


Was thinking the same myself, any word?

The day before it starts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 06:52:25 AM
That's some carry on in St Endas. From the outside it's appears bananas a club would do that to 3 members. Sorta thing that could split a club but maybe they don't care  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 07:42:06 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 06:52:25 AM
That's some carry on in St Endas. From the outside it's appears bananas a club would do that to 3 members. Sorta thing that could split a club but maybe they don't care  :o

That's those Belfast clubs for ya!

They're only south west when they're winning!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 07:42:33 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 06:52:25 AM
That's some carry on in St Endas. From the outside it's appears bananas a club would do that to 3 members. Sorta thing that could split a club but maybe they don't care  :o

What did they actually do btw?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 15, 2023, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 06:52:25 AM
That's some carry on in St Endas. From the outside it's appears bananas a club would do that to 3 members. Sorta thing that could split a club but maybe they don't care  :o
Was reading that......ffs thought it was a wind up....
Could well have consequences.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 07:58:41 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 07:42:06 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 06:52:25 AM
That's some carry on in St Endas. From the outside it's appears bananas a club would do that to 3 members. Sorta thing that could split a club but maybe they don't care  :o

That's those Belfast clubs for ya!

They're only south west when they're winning!

Lol first thought came into my head. That's Belfast clubs for ye  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:00 AM
I believe a very high profile Solicitor is a member of the St. Enda's club, I wonder if any of the girls are a relation of this individual?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 15, 2023, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:00 AM
I believe a very high profile Solicitor is a member of the St. Enda's club, I wonder if any of the girls are a relation of this individual?

You believe ? I think it's been fairly common knowledge for about 20 years !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:03:48 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 15, 2023, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: LC on February 15, 2023, 08:00:00 AM
I believe a very high profile Solicitor is a member of the St. Enda's club, I wonder if any of the girls are a relation of this individual?

You believe ? I think it's been fairly common knowledge for about 20 years !!

I was being rhetorical.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
What were the girls looking that they had to write and get loads of signatures?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 15, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
What were the girls looking that they had to write and get loads of signatures?

They wanted to dismiss their manager from his role !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 15, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
A promise they would never have to play a home game at Hightown again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 15, 2023, 02:05:24 PM
As with anything I'd bet there's two sides to this story.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on February 15, 2023, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 15, 2023, 02:05:24 PM
As with anything I'd bet there's two sides to this story.
You are right there bai, always 2 sides to every story sir
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on February 15, 2023, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
What were the girls looking that they had to write and get loads of signatures?
jerseys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on February 15, 2023, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on February 15, 2023, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
What were the girls looking that they had to write and get loads of signatures?
jerseys

numbered bibs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 03:31:25 PM
why would the club not get them jerseys? There is something not right with this story, a club executive would not be that stupid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 15, 2023, 03:40:25 PM
I wonder what MR thoughts on this are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 15, 2023, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 15, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
What were the girls looking that they had to write and get loads of signatures?

They wanted to dismiss their manager from his role !
To be clear, this is the actual reason !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 15, 2023, 03:40:25 PM
I wonder what MR thoughts on this are

Contact your club secretary to find out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 15, 2023, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 15, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 15, 2023, 11:25:04 AM
What were the girls looking that they had to write and get loads of signatures?

They wanted to dismiss their manager from his role !
To be clear, this is the actual reason !

And going by that article did they apparently forge signatures of team mates or am I misreading that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2023, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 15, 2023, 03:40:25 PM
I wonder what MR thoughts on this are

Contact your club secretary to find out

If he had a club Sec. he could find out  ;)

On this I've no idea what's going on as its all in code on here .. Women's football, I'm not involved in, ousting managers happens in all clubs if that is whats this is about, but takes the topic away from the dates on the leagues being announced..

It's like its a big deal on here and when you go to the club theres about 20 people at it lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on February 15, 2023, 04:25:35 PM
A Chairde,

The club has informed all members that legal proceedings have been issued against it. The proceedings have been issued by my niece Orlaith Murray and her team mates Ellie Murphy & Molly McAuley. The Irish News have this evening published this fact and it will be in its daily printed version tomorrow. Some of you may have been told a self-serving false account of what these ladies were alleged to have done. The truth is they have done nothing.  They have been brave enough to stand up for themselves and have the benefit of supportive immediate and extended families who have stood with them and will continue to do so.

St Enda's is a great club with great people. I've been a member for over 40 years. As some of you know, my late uncle, Sean Hayes, was a founding member in 1956. He and my aunt Kathleen were one of two families to put their home up as collateral towards the first club. I was here in those very dark days, unlike some of those involved in this shameful episode.  I've represented this club at every level in both codes. I've coached at every level in the club. To say that the actions of a few members have brought such shame on St Enda's is nothing short of disgraceful.

At every turn, those involved in pursuing Orlaith, Molly, and Ellie for the alleged offence of forgery sought to obfuscate and conceal the fact that they had not one shred of evidence against these girls. When the girls asked for the evidence against them, those involved point blank refused to give it. The girls would only find out via the LGFA Appeal process that there was no evidence against them. The club filed redacted documents at the Appeal to conceal various matters.  Despite the club's wish to conceal their paperwork, through the good fortune that the girls are tech-savvy, they were able to remove the clubs redactions and were then in a position to prove that they had not forged anyone's name to any letter.

Think about the actions of these members. Firstly, refusing to provide evidence to support the allegations brought by the club against the girls, and then redacting crucial evidence which, when revealed, helped the girls to clear their names. This is nothing short of apalling behaviour.

It's a very true saying that a little power is a dangerous thing. When we, as club member's, permit people to lead our club, we do so on the basis that they will exercise their power on our behalf, fairly and judiciously. Those involved in what has happened here have fallen far short of these basic standards.

The girls rightly won their appeal, having presented a detailed, robust, evidence based, and cogent defence. Another forum will now examine and pour over the case the club had both at the date of the production of its Disciplinary Sub-Committee report in early March 2022 and the case it presented to the LGFA Appeal Panel in April 2022. Suffice to say,  it did not convince an independent panel of 3 people appointed by Antrim LGFA County Board who said "that having heard both parties' oral evidence and having read both parties' written submissions it preferred the evidence of the appellants".

This should have been the point where our club representatives gracefully accepted that they had lost and did so because they were unable to present any evidence that the 3 girls had forged anyone's name to any letter. However,  those involved, fixed with no capacity to reverse, refused to back off. Instead,  they went full tilt in the oppposite direction and continued to assert that the girls were forgers right up to spending £1000 of members' money to lodge an appeal to the DRA against Antrim LGFA which they haven't pursued in 10 months because they haven't got a leg to stand on - it can only assumed that like all good GAA Appeals they were hoping that a technicality would materialise to get those involved off the hook for such appalling behaviour.
For the luxury of this fool's errand the club have engaged the services of a barrister. It is us as members who will pick up the tab for this additional expense.


I want to be clear and "For the avoidance of doubt" (to steal a phrase from a certain local representative's letter which he submitted anonymously to the LGFA Appeal panel!) Orlaith, Molly & Ellie did absolutely nothing wrong other than ask for a new manager along with numerous other senior ladies. For this, these 3 girls were singled out, pursued relentlessly, and hounded out of this club. A club which they have been members of and proudly represented since they were 5 years of age, a lot longer than some of those who had a hand in forcing them out of it.

Notably, the Secretaries Report to the 2022 AGM glossed over what happened in Ladies football in 2022 by euphemistically saying, "It's been a difficult year." In truth, the treatment of these 3 ladies, and the fallout from a manager refusing to step down when the intial group of 14 senior Ladies respectfully requested that he do so in November 2021, has lead to a significant number of ladies leaving the team or the club, setting senior ladies football back 5 - 6 years. This is not something that our club should be proud of.

By contrast, St Paul's and Wolfe Tones might well be able to say its been a good year for them as they have significantly benefited from the exodous. It has also impacted our camogie senior ladies with the loss of two of our best camog's in Ellie Murphy and my other niece Mairead Murray (Orlaith Murray's sister), who also transferred to St. Paul's after the appalling treatment of her sister.

Likewise, the annual report made no mention of the girl's solicitor having issued letters of claim to our club in August 2022. Surely, as members, we all have a right to know that our club was likely to be sued as a result of the actions of some of our members.

If this is the "Naomh Éanna Way", that is now so often spoken of, by those at the head of this club, then we are going the wrong 'Way'. There has been a serious failure of leadership at Executive Committee level of the club for this to have happened.

Recently, the talk from those involved has changed to "oh, it was badly handled, it should never have happened like this." As if those involved in creating and perpetuating this mess did not anticipate the consequences of their actions in wrongly accusing and pursuing these 3 ladies who, in response, had the strength and means to robustly defend themselves.   In truth, (sadly a virtue in short supply) what they mean is that when the girls were each sent a letter in February 2022 accusing them of forgery, the club simply expected the girls to roll over and not challenge an allegation of such magnitude, one which has serious implications for their reputations and futures.

The club response to being challenged to provide proof to support their allegation was to pursue the girls at speed with a pack like mentality of 'us against them'   But the  'them' were 3 of our young female members.  All the while, our Executive Committee sat docile, some entirely deprived of knowledge of what was happening, while others were knowingly compliant. Either way, this is no way to run our club.

As a club, we should now be asking why we are leaving the resolution of this mess in the hands of the very people who caused it?

Interestingly, or perhaps shamefully, when the LGFA HQ in Dublin became aware of this case, they said they have never heard of a club accusing it's own players of forgery. So, as a club, we now hold the unique and wholly ignominious title of being the first club in LGFA history to do so and, in turn, be sued as a result. Is there space in the trophy cabinet for such an award?

It gives me no pleasure to write such a critique about a club that I love and take pride in being a member of but I am sick of the talk on corners, the lies and half truths that have been spread about my niece and her teammates over the last year both within the club and far beyond its gates. The true story will now be told in significant detail before a Belfast Court, much to the shame of this club.

Finally, I see that whoever engaged with the Irish News on behalf of our club has stated that the club will "robustly defend its position."  The swift acquisition of some humility and the capacity to say we are sorry, we got his wrong might suit those involved much better. Certainly, before the courts lift up your skirts to peer at your filthy undercarriage!

As a club, we can't defend the indefensible!

Sin é

Is mise,

Declan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2023, 04:41:11 PM
Jesus what a mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 15, 2023, 04:51:03 PM
What a mess indeed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 15, 2023, 04:57:24 PM
Be 2 clubs in Glengormley shortly. A mess
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nearlymad on February 15, 2023, 05:04:46 PM
  Too many Solicitors amongst all of this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 15, 2023, 06:00:15 PM
Doesn't sound that something that can be fixed I'm afraid
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 15, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Complete mess. Sad to see, St Endas a good club who have come through a lot.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2023, 07:25:10 PM
Sounds bad when it gets this far... I don't know too many clubs that doesn't have its splits over the years.. hopefully some sane mediation can take place
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 15, 2023, 07:41:09 PM
Is this a new (blow in) St Endas vs old St Endas?

I have heard of those tensions in the last few years as the club has got much bigger
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 08:09:10 PM
Maybe St Enda's can split and one half can play in the Belfast league and the good half can play in the South West.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 15, 2023, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 15, 2023, 08:09:10 PM
Maybe St Enda's can split and one half can play in the Belfast league and the good half can play in the South West.

With the numbers they gave at underage that would be easily done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 15, 2023, 09:10:45 PM
For a solicitor, Declan doesn't have a great grasp of the English language.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 15, 2023, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 15, 2023, 09:10:45 PM
For a solicitor, Declan doesn't have a great grasp of the English language.

Don't think it's Declan that's the solicitor in the family, but he's a very good Gael and been through the mill as a st Endas member down the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 15, 2023, 11:05:54 PM
Decky is one of the good guys couldn't meet a more genuine felling and a proper GAA man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 16, 2023, 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Wolf tones
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

In North Belfast, noT the SW  ;)

Wolf Tones Have reformed
Ardoyne Kichams
Padraig Pearses

Can't see the club splitting and don't think going to other clubs around there will actually improve players too much as the other clubs are in lower leagues , so they may go to clubs in the West, hoping that they sort this out as the club is (from a numbers point of view) thriving, considering that area was pretty much a unionist area at a time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 16, 2023, 12:47:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2023, 12:26:44 PM
Are St Enda's strictly Glengormley or do their players come from across north Belfast? Is there an element of being too middle class for the other NB clubs?


Snobs they are, along with St Brigids.

The money has gone to their heads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)

There are a few taigs in Jordanstown/Whiteabbey  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 16, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)

There are a few taigs in Jordanstown/Whiteabbey  ;)

What game have you got MR for the first weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 01:41:09 PM
I'll get them like the rest, if the game is on a Sunday we'll get a text on the Monday beforehand, but there should be some fixtures released weekend, so keep a look out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 16, 2023, 01:53:18 PM
See another fixtures meeting called for Monday night coming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 16, 2023, 01:53:18 PM
See another fixtures meeting called for Monday night coming

Is there a clash?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 16, 2023, 02:06:39 PM
I am going to predict an Antrim win away on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 02:08:42 PM
Hope you are right... must win to stay in division 3 IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 16, 2023, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 02:08:42 PM
Hope you are right... must win to stay in division 3 IMO.
Talking to a guy who hopes to start, they seem in the right frame of mind. Good indication for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 02:31:19 PM
Definite signs of improvement after a tough mckenna cup campaign. Think he's getting closer to finding out best 15. Realistically main goal for the year would probably be staying in division three and the rest a bonus so would be better getting the best 15 asap.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 16, 2023, 03:59:17 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)
went downhilll when they joined SW
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 16, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
Surprised SG haven't got their usual "club manager's for 2023" post up yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 16, 2023, 04:24:49 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 16, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
Surprised SG haven't got their usual "club manager's for 2023" post up yet

Busy men..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 16, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Two crackers Paddy and John. Honestly believe County should be subsidising this operation, making sure it's fully sustainable.

I recall being part of a think tank around Club Aontroma back in the day and a whole meeting was taken up by talking about the essential priority of our games being properly marketed, especially to the juveniles. Now there's match reports and photos galore, and I can't help think how much we all take SG for granted!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 16, 2023, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Two crackers Paddy and John. Honestly believe County should be subsidising this operation, making sure it's fully sustainable.

I recall being part of a think tank around Club Aontroma back in the day and a whole meeting was taken up by talking about the essential priority of our games being properly marketed, especially to the juveniles. Now there's match reports and photos galore, and I can't help think how much we all take SG for granted!

Here here!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 05:37:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Two crackers Paddy and John. Honestly believe County should be subsidising this operation, making sure it's fully sustainable.

I recall being part of a think tank around Club Aontroma back in the day and a whole meeting was taken up by talking about the essential priority of our games being properly marketed, especially to the juveniles. Now there's match reports and photos galore, and I can't help think how much we all take SG for granted!

Sterling work by them, and they report the games as they are, very professional and well respected.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 16, 2023, 06:37:01 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 16, 2023, 03:59:17 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)
went downhilll when they joined SW
Well done to them, two gents, and of course to the likes of Brendan McTaggart, kevin Herron and Geordie who also play a major role
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 16, 2023, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 16, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
Surprised SG haven't got their usual "club manager's for 2023" post up yet

Ready to be posted.....patience....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 08:45:46 AM
Hearing Deccy Lynch has picked up a knee injury, not sure how serious, casualty list just gets bigger for Andy unfortunately .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LC on February 17, 2023, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)


Just curious but if people were leaving St. Enda's I would imagine they would joining the club closest to them.  What is the nearest club, plenty come to mind re W. Belfast but can not think of any in N.Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2023, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

In North Belfast, noT the SW  ;)

Wolf Tones Have reformed
Ardoyne Kichams
Padraig Pearses

Can't see the club splitting and don't think going to other clubs around there will actually improve players too much as the other clubs are in lower leagues , so they may go to clubs in the West, hoping that they sort this out as the club is (from a numbers point of view) thriving, considering that area was pretty much a unionist area at a time

Posted earlier  LC

Not everyone stays living locally in Belfast or outskirts of Belfast.. So they effectively could pick any club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LC on February 17, 2023, 09:06:45 AM
Cheers MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 17, 2023, 09:55:03 AM
Quote from: LC on February 17, 2023, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 16, 2023, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 16, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Seems like a new crowd are in calling the shots and going against original St. Enda's men. Never going to end well in that scenario!

What's the closest club to St. Enda's? All joking aside would there be room for another club that direction? There's too many clubs around the West and teams struggling to field at underage including a number of the bigger clubs.

Could a new club be formed in Mallusk? Or is that too close to St. Enda's?

Sure they could set up a new GAA club in Templepatrick or Ballyclare for them ;-)


Just curious but if people were leaving St. Enda's I would imagine they would joining the club closest to them.  What is the nearest club, plenty come to mind re W. Belfast but can not think of any in N.Belfast.

The Cargin men on here can neither confirm or deny if an approach has been made to their club by the St Enda's lads  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 17, 2023, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Two crackers Paddy and John. Honestly believe County should be subsidising this operation, making sure it's fully sustainable.

I recall being part of a think tank around Club Aontroma back in the day and a whole meeting was taken up by talking about the essential priority of our games being properly marketed, especially to the juveniles. Now there's match reports and photos galore, and I can't help think how much we all take SG for granted!

100%

They provide an invaluable service and deserve to be fully sponsored by the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 17, 2023, 11:49:44 AM
I doubt there is any more room on the gravy train choo choo

Quote from: barnish oggie on February 17, 2023, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Two crackers Paddy and John. Honestly believe County should be subsidising this operation, making sure it's fully sustainable.

I recall being part of a think tank around Club Aontroma back in the day and a whole meeting was taken up by talking about the essential priority of our games being properly marketed, especially to the juveniles. Now there's match reports and photos galore, and I can't help think how much we all take SG for granted!

100%

They provide an invaluable service and deserve to be fully sponsored by the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on February 17, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Just had a look at the club fixtures, un f**king believable with the 10am starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 17, 2023, 12:02:01 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 17, 2023, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 16, 2023, 05:08:56 PM
Two crackers Paddy and John. Honestly believe County should be subsidising this operation, making sure it's fully sustainable.

I recall being part of a think tank around Club Aontroma back in the day and a whole meeting was taken up by talking about the essential priority of our games being properly marketed, especially to the juveniles. Now there's match reports and photos galore, and I can't help think how much we all take SG for granted!

100%

They provide an invaluable service and deserve to be fully sponsored by the county.

Yes as opposed to hard up clubs having to do it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 17, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 17, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Just had a look at the club fixtures, un f**king believable with the 10am starts.

I'm assuming they're typos and times will be fixed for the usual 2pm or so times.
Personally I'd love early morning games but I know 99% of the population would hate it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 17, 2023, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 17, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Just had a look at the club fixtures, un f**king believable with the 10am starts.

Are you sure you arent looking at the Ulster league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 12:56:02 PM
Are there 3 games on a Sunday? Minor/reserve/senior?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 17, 2023, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 12:56:02 PM
Are there 3 games on a Sunday? Minor/reserve/senior?
Only on sunday 5th, 12noon, 2pm & 3.45!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 17, 2023, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 17, 2023, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 12:56:02 PM
Are there 3 games on a Sunday? Minor/reserve/senior?
Only on sunday 5th, 12noon, 2pm & 3.45!

Money in the bank for you MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 17, 2023, 01:04:12 PM
Can someone link the pdf file on here?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on February 17, 2023, 01:33:06 PM
Rishi Sunak claims protocol can be saved but can't comment on timeline for resolution of Naomh Eanna ladies dispute 🙂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on February 17, 2023, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 17, 2023, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 12:56:02 PM
Are there 3 games on a Sunday? Minor/reserve/senior?
Only on sunday 5th, 12noon, 2pm & 3.45!

Money in the bank for you MR2

Think I'll upgrade the sea-view to a grand suite at the hotel this summer!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 17, 2023, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 17, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Just had a look at the club fixtures, un f**king believable with the 10am starts.

I'm assuming they're typos and times will be fixed for the usual 2pm or so times.
Personally I'd love early morning games but I know 99% of the population would hate it.

No , not typos apparently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 17, 2023, 03:53:30 PM
Clubs told at the first fixtures Meeting that no matches would be played Easter Sunday...guess what....full round of fixtures on Easter Sunday. What's the point of consulting clubs ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2023, 04:34:42 PM
Where can I see these?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?

Be other games on no doubt... plenty dissatisfied Gaels will no doubt be applying for the ref's course which starts soon at Davitt's club..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?

Be other games on no doubt... plenty dissatisfied Gaels will no doubt be applying for the ref's course which starts soon at Davitt's club..

The one on the falls Road or up the hill ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?

Be other games on no doubt... plenty dissatisfied Gaels will no doubt be applying for the ref's course which starts soon at Davitt's club..

The one on the falls Road or up the hill ?

Up the hill I hope, though doing the course on the pub would be fun lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on February 17, 2023, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?

Be other games on no doubt... plenty dissatisfied Gaels will no doubt be applying for the ref's course which starts soon at Davitt's club..

The one on the falls Road or up the hill ?

Up the hill I hope, though doing the course on the pub would be fun lol

It's in the bar on the Falls Rd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?

Be other games on no doubt... plenty dissatisfied Gaels will no doubt be applying for the ref's course which starts soon at Davitt's club..

The one on the falls Road or up the hill ?

Up the hill I hope, though doing the course on the pub would be fun lol
it's on the falls road so they have told you the wrong place  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 17, 2023, 09:08:14 PM
Having a refs course in the middle of the city. That'll inspire the south west & north Antrim ones to appear. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 17, 2023, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2023, 04:25:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 17, 2023, 04:05:23 PM
I don't get why reserve was moved to Sunday, I thought it was working really well on Friday nights , must be some reason for it but it's beyond me

Some clubs were fielding stronger teams on days their 'seniors' were not playing?
Refs looking a pint on Friday nights ?

Be other games on no doubt... plenty dissatisfied Gaels will no doubt be applying for the ref's course which starts soon at Davitt's club..

The one on the falls Road or up the hill ?

Up the hill I hope, though doing the course on the pub would be fun lol
it's on the falls road so they have told you the wrong place  ;)

Jesus, it's probably 15 years since I did the first course. Beechmount is Falls rd too  :D

As for where it's been gone.. it's always Antrim, Dunsilly. No harm Belfast the odd time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2023, 08:38:02 AM
This could be an accurate prediction from The Irish Times on our game today. Would a draw be a good outcome - take a point back up the road and then target later games for safety?

Tipperary v Antrim, Semple Stadium, 6.0: It has been a difficult start to the year for Tipperary, with opening round defeats to Down and Cavan, and, more significantly, a season-ending cruciate injury to Conor Sweeney. The loss of the 2020 All Star forward is huge, especially as Michael Quinlivan is not involved either. But Antrim lost both of their games as well, to Offaly and Down respectively. Both teams will see this as an opportunity to light the flame on what has been a slow-burning season. But the fear of losing again could lead to stalemate. Verdict: Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardtole on February 18, 2023, 09:04:49 AM
Having seen both teams play v Down this year, I'd fancy Antrim to sneak it, home advantage for Tipp is a big leveller but I thought Antrim were very impressive v Down.

I think Tipp could struggle against the Antrim ff, he is a right handful. Note of caution, I stuck Antrim on my accum, usually doesn't go too good.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2023, 10:28:12 AM
If we can beat Longford and Fermanagh then a point ok but no guarantee on those two either especially with Longford away.  What would keep you safe here? Four points? Tbh I think a must win.

Ardtole a defeat would be on you  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 18, 2023, 11:18:03 AM
Tonight is the classic fixture where in previous years Antrim fall flat on their face.  Hopefully Andy McEntee can give the lads the belief to push on and win a long way from home. He seems to like a big physical team. Can't argue with that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2023, 12:54:47 PM
Last time I remember going down to Tipp for football match was 2012 qualifier? Think we had just beaten Galway in Casement the week before. Big Antrim support at that game and we really should have beaten them to go deep into the qualifier series. Mick McCann missed a goal chance late on by centimetres, it finished something like 11-9, a narrow, frustrating loss. Hopefully fortunes reversed tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2023, 01:50:12 PM
3-15 to 1-10 defeat against Tyrone, ai champions, in the under 20s.

Be interesting to see a report but much more winnable games ahead hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 18, 2023, 05:06:55 PM
Hearing a few changes to starting team this evening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2023, 06:16:14 PM
Match commentary online

https://onlineradiobox.com/ie/tipp/?cs=ie.tipp&played=1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 18, 2023, 07:27:46 PM
Thanks for the link Brendan, a comprehensive victory. We sounded even by the Tipperary commentators to be well worth the victory. Sounded like Pat and Marc Jordan starred but I'm sure there were many more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2023, 07:28:14 PM
It's a very enjoyable listen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2023, 07:36:59 PM
Look forward to Bannside's comprehensive report but based on the radio commentary: our kickouts were spot on all match, we sounded to be fitter, more aggressive, posted a big score while missing a penalty and a few other goal chances. Can't work out who Ronan Boyle came in for but that's a big match for a young fella to debut in. Sounds like big Pat starred too. A great win. Well done fellas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 18, 2023, 07:49:46 PM
A really good performance from the lads. It was a must win game and that's the bottom line. Couple todays showing with the Down performance a fortnight ago and there is great reason to be optimistic of maintaining div 3 status.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2023, 08:09:40 PM
All about beating Longford now. After that it should be preparing for championship and the lower tier cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 18, 2023, 09:51:38 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on February 18, 2023, 07:49:46 PM
A really good performance from the lads. It was a must win game and that's the bottom line. Couple todays showing with the Down performance a fortnight ago and there is great reason to be optimistic of maintaining div 3 status.
Was talking to Down men who were in Newry and they were in no doubt they got out of jail.  It's all positive at the moment. Great to see an Antrim team go 200 miles down the road and get the win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2023, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2023, 08:09:40 PM
All about beating Longford now. After that it should be preparing for championship and the lower tier cup

Fermanagh at home too.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2023, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2023, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2023, 08:09:40 PM
All about beating Longford now. After that it should be preparing for championship and the lower tier cup

Fermanagh at home too.

Fermanagh based con how Longford are playing will be a tougher game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2023, 11:02:43 AM
Last night Andys new look Antrim took a massive step forward in their own development programme with a comprehensive routing of Tipperary at Semple stadium. We looked in control with the result never really in doubt from a long way out, and there's no doubt some sort of a corner is being turned, with new leaders popping up all over the pitch.

To be truthful we should have won by twice as much such was the number of excellent chances being created. One word of caution (let's keep feet on the ground) this was a truly awful Tipp team that looked well our of their depth in this division, I just can't see where their points are coming from tbh.

Keeping things positive there were many impressive performances from established  players as well as newcomers as a proper panel is starting to take shape.

The players were in fine form afterwards in the Anner Hotel and will travel up the road today knowing that they are a couple of good performances away from consolidating Div 3 status and part of a group that should be in really fine nick for the Tailteean Cup later in the year.

In the meantime it's all about Fermanagh next week in Corrigan, that's the only show in town right now.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2023, 11:15:29 AM
Tyrone under 20s are different gravy, they are a shoe in for Ulster and quite likely back 2 back All Irelands, so to remain reasonably competitive in Healy Park yesterday for long periods was an achievement of sorts. You can see three or four talents in the Antrim squad that will progress to senior level in the next few years, that's definitely encouraging and fair play to Niall Jackman, his backroom team and county games development officer Paddy Kelly for delivering a programme that is properly facilitating that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on February 19, 2023, 12:37:02 PM
BS, Tyrone will have to beat the All Ireland winners from minors before Ulster is a shoe in. If Gallagher lets the u20 seniors play in the u20s we'll take a bit of stopping. Currently 3 U20s play in our senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 19, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
Glad to hear the seniors stopped off in Tipp last night and hopefully they enjoyed a few pints and a bit of craic.  There wouldn't be the kick of a ball between Derry and Tyrone at U20, and we'd be a tier below, but sounds like there's a decent effort going in at that level as well so fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 19, 2023, 02:22:40 PM
Not sure about that with the u20s, come the championship they wouldn't fear playing the likes of Derry or Tyrone. A league game away to Tyrone at u20 level is prob the hardest fixture you could get.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2023, 02:29:15 PM
We get Donegal in under 20s away EOC and I would expect us to be competitive in that at least. Maybe Derry will test (or beat) Tyrone but they'll be a good team if they do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2023, 02:33:23 PM
Looks like what happened to us against down may be happening them against Fermanagh. 72nd minute goal conceded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 19, 2023, 02:48:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 19, 2023, 02:29:15 PM
We get Donegal in under 20s away EOC and I would expect us to be competitive in that at least. Maybe Derry will test (or beat) Tyrone but they'll be a good team if they do.
Maybe I wasnt the clearest there but I see our u20s being very competitive against anyone. They were still missing key players yesterday as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 19, 2023, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 19, 2023, 11:15:29 AM
Tyrone under 20s are different gravy, they are a shoe in for Ulster and quite likely back 2 back All Irelands, so to remain reasonably competitive in Healy Park yesterday for long periods was an achievement of sorts. You can see three or four talents in the Antrim squad that will progress to senior level in the next few years, that's definitely encouraging and fair play to Niall Jackman, his backroom team and county games development officer Paddy Kelly for delivering a programme that is properly facilitating that.
Tyrone probably favourites but wouldn't agree them as a shoe in , Derry Minors won the 2020 all Ireland minor title  and should be very competitive this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
It's fairly obvious that I've neglected to take Derry into consideration...totally forgot that they win minor title 3 years ago so definitely plenty of quality there too.

Big shout out due to Terry Reilly who was elected to the highest echelons of GAA administration over the weekend. He is Ulster's representative on the GAA national Coiste Bainiste, a position never held before (to my knowledge) by an Antrim administrator. Worthy recognition for a man who has served diligently and with commendation often under the radar. Congratulations Terry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on February 19, 2023, 11:13:55 PM
Could well have been 3/3 for us but for bad luck
Andy has the lads going well the Fermanagh game now is crucial not only for the league but for this teams development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 20, 2023, 08:02:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 19, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
Big shout out due to Terry Reilly who was elected to the highest echelons of GAA administration over the weekend. He is Ulster's representative on the GAA national Coiste Bainiste, a position never held before (to my knowledge) by an Antrim administrator. Worthy recognition for a man who has served diligently and with commendation often under the radar. Congratulations Terry.


You really do need to wake up sometimes bannside and smell the coffee!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 20, 2023, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 20, 2023, 08:02:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 19, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
Big shout out due to Terry Reilly who was elected to the highest echelons of GAA administration over the weekend. He is Ulster's representative on the GAA national Coiste Bainiste, a position never held before (to my knowledge) by an Antrim administrator. Worthy recognition for a man who has served diligently and with commendation often under the radar. Congratulations Terry.


You really do need to wake up sometimes bannside and smell the coffee!

This board is worse than the cryptic crossword in the IN, ffs if you've got something to say get on with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2023, 09:48:04 AM
My thoughts exactly Saffs....open to correction at all times lol!

Brendan the announcer before the game called out Ronan Boyles name at full back, but it was Eoghan McCabe who lined out, so that's what led to the radio commentator getting  his lines crossed. McCabe had a fine game to be fair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 20, 2023, 02:00:43 PM
Funny, how it seems there is a lot more on here wanting to talk after a defeat than after a win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2023, 02:18:58 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 20, 2023, 02:00:43 PM
Funny, how it seems there is a lot more on here wanting to talk after a defeat than after a win

Been saying it for years, we are a bunch of moaning c+#ts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on February 20, 2023, 02:26:53 PM
Assume the stand at Corrigan is West Terrace?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2023, 02:31:39 PM
I think stand sold out for saturday? There's west terrace 1 and 2 which I assume are just terracing either side of stand?

MR takes one to know one  ;D

Great win on saturday which gives us a bit of hope. Tough enough run of games now with Fermanagh, Cavan and Westmeath to come plus then Longford which is the must win game but if we can get some points from the other games that'd be great. I can't see us getting anything of Cavan but I have a funny feeling we might get something from the other two games (not maximum points lol).

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on February 20, 2023, 02:34:46 PM
Mebbe thats it. Options are West Terrace 1, 2, or East Terrace just
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2023, 02:36:23 PM
East terrace is the grass banks so would recommend the other ones - particularly if raining.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: haranguerer on February 20, 2023, 02:40:12 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Contact your secretary. Not allowed to ask questions like that on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Contact your secretary. Not allowed to ask questions like that on here.

I have, they were just sorting out the planned stag weekends, fathers day and mother day weekends cancelled, the birthday days for managers and senior players all sorted and making sure any soccer cup final games are not clashing with the GAA games.. Oh and no games over the 12th as we are holidays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 21, 2023, 09:59:23 AM
Changes to Relegation and promotion start in 2023 leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 21, 2023, 10:02:21 AM
Are you on the payroll MR2 or are you just the Jamie Bryson to the County Board?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Contact your secretary. Not allowed to ask questions like that on here.

I have, they were just sorting out the planned stag weekends, fathers day and mother day weekends cancelled, the birthday days for managers and senior players all sorted and making sure any soccer cup final games are not clashing with the GAA games.. Oh and no games over the 12th as we are holidays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 21, 2023, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Contact your secretary. Not allowed to ask questions like that on here.

I have, they were just sorting out the planned stag weekends, fathers day and mother day weekends cancelled, the birthday days for managers and senior players all sorted and making sure any soccer cup final games are not clashing with the GAA games.. Oh and no games over the 12th as we are holidays

You forgot about Cemetery Sundays, ya heathen.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 21, 2023, 11:04:56 AM
Fixtures will be fixed to suit the McCooeys...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 21, 2023, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Contact your secretary. Not allowed to ask questions like that on here.

I have, they were just sorting out the planned stag weekends, fathers day and mother day weekends cancelled, the birthday days for managers and senior players all sorted and making sure any soccer cup final games are not clashing with the GAA games.. Oh and no games over the 12th as we are holidays

You forgot about Cemetery Sundays, ya heathen.

Sorry left that out, Milltown Sunday, and City cemetery Sunday wasn't discussed .. #jamiebryson ;)

Wee Johnny heading off to the Gaeltacht wasn't facilitated either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 21, 2023, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 21, 2023, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Contact your secretary. Not allowed to ask questions like that on here.

I have, they were just sorting out the planned stag weekends, fathers day and mother day weekends cancelled, the birthday days for managers and senior players all sorted and making sure any soccer cup final games are not clashing with the GAA games.. Oh and no games over the 12th as we are holidays

You forgot about Cemetery Sundays, ya heathen.

Sorry left that out, Milltown Sunday, and City cemetery Sunday wasn't discussed .. #jamiebryson ;)

Wee Johnny heading off to the Gaeltacht wasn't facilitated either

Any consideration given to the 3 day bender around March 17th?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 21, 2023, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on February 21, 2023, 09:59:23 AM
Changes to Relegation and promotion start in 2023 leagues.

Changed to what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
Any official update on Downeys to St Brigids other than rumour or speculation? Zero substance whatsoever to EMG leaving Magherafelt and joining Cargin. Burkes application to  join Cargin from Creggan was refused after Cargin players and committee had their views considered...but do Burkes have the right of appeal?

Any other transfer activity of note around the clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 21, 2023, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
Any official update on Downeys to St Brigids other than rumour or speculation? Zero substance whatsoever to EMG leaving Magherafelt and joining Cargin. Burkes application to  join Cargin from Creggan was refused after Cargin players and committee had their views considered...but do Burkes have the right of appeal?

Any other transfer activity of note around the clubs?
Rumour has it they didn't want to end up looking like Portglenone did in the 2000s with half Bellaghys reserve team in their squad lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 21, 2023, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 21, 2023, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
Any official update on Downeys to St Brigids other than rumour or speculation? Zero substance whatsoever to EMG leaving Magherafelt and joining Cargin. Burkes application to  join Cargin from Creggan was refused after Cargin players and committee had their views considered...but do Burkes have the right of appeal?

Any other transfer activity of note around the clubs?
Rumour has it they didn't want to end up looking like Portglenone did in the 2000s with half Bellaghys reserve team in their squad lol

Bannside was maybe still a Ballymena man then??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on February 21, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 21, 2023, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
Any official update on Downeys to St Brigids other than rumour or speculation? Zero substance whatsoever to EMG leaving Magherafelt and joining Cargin. Burkes application to  join Cargin from Creggan was refused after Cargin players and committee had their views considered...but do Burkes have the right of appeal?

Any other transfer activity of note around the clubs?
Rumour has it they didn't want to end up looking like Portglenone did in the 2000s with half Bellaghys reserve team in their squad lol

I hear there will be another bellaghy man joining the glenone contingent this year as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 21, 2023, 02:49:31 PM
On the ball Belfastsaff!

Young lad Mc Garry who lives half a mile from PG1 mainstreet, PG1 postcode and relations, not much of a story tbh. Hope he will be a good acquisition, time will tell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2023, 02:49:31 PM
On the ball Belfastsaff!

Young lad Mc Garry who lives half a mile from PG1 mainstreet, PG1 postcode and relations, not much of a story tbh. Hope he will be a good acquisition, time will tell.

Half of Portglenone is in Derry ;)

what other town's villages are basically split by a county border? Toome or does it lie completely in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 21, 2023, 03:59:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2023, 02:49:31 PM
On the ball Belfastsaff!

Young lad Mc Garry who lives half a mile from PG1 mainstreet, PG1 postcode and relations, not much of a story tbh. Hope he will be a good acquisition, time will tell.
Acquisition!! dear god.  Every club bar none has taken in transfers in the past but becoming too commonplace these days. Rumours locally were we had 7 plus people trying to transfer this month, most with no valid reason. Don't like they way the GAA world is moving on issues like this personally speaking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 21, 2023, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2023, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 21, 2023, 02:49:31 PM
On the ball Belfastsaff!

Young lad Mc Garry who lives half a mile from PG1 mainstreet, PG1 postcode and relations, not much of a story tbh. Hope he will be a good acquisition, time will tell.

Half of Portglenone is in Derry ;)

what other town's villages are basically split by a county border? Toome or does it lie completely in Antrim?

Pat Shivers lives in Derry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Dd Matthew Gribben not play for Cargin but play underage for Derry?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 04:36:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Dd Matthew Gribben not play for Cargin but play underage for Derry?

Did indeed ITG, played corner back if memory serves in Derry team beat by Down in Screen i think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 21, 2023, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Dd Matthew Gribben not play for Cargin but play underage for Derry?


M G did play under age for Derry.....senior for Antrim.
...quite legal....

ffs a majority of the Ballinderry team which won the All Ireland club born in Tyrone....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 06:39:56 PM
It's a discussion not a criticism.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on February 21, 2023, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
Anyone at the fixtures meeting last night? Any startling changes planned for 2024?

Three Divisions for 2023
Bottom team in Div 1 relegated.
2nd Bottom  team in Div 1 to play winners of Div 2 in promotion/ relegation play off.
Not sure how that plays out in 2024, but Div 1 will be back to 12 teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 22, 2023, 07:16:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 21, 2023, 04:36:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Dd Matthew Gribben not play for Cargin but play underage for Derry?

Did indeed ITG, played corner back if memory serves in Derry team beat by Down in Screen i think
Correct he played in 88 against Down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 22, 2023, 07:20:47 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on February 21, 2023, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Dd Matthew Gribben not play for Cargin but play underage for Derry?


M G did play under age for Derry.....senior for Antrim.
...quite legal....

ffs a majority of the Ballinderry team which won the All Ireland club born in Tyrone....

Why do ye think we can never trust them  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 22, 2023, 09:26:21 AM
Inter-club transfers definitely seem to be on the rise which is not good. The entire ethos of the GAA is built on local communities and if we lose that we are in trouble! How long before we start to see clubs offering incentives for top players to join them?

(Disclaimer: there are obviously certain scenarios where transfers are necessary)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 22, 2023, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: Caesar on February 22, 2023, 09:26:21 AM
Inter-club transfers definitely seem to be on the rise which is not good. The entire ethos of the GAA is built on local communities and if we lose that we are in trouble! How long before we start to see clubs offering incentives for top players to join them?

(Disclaimer: there are obviously certain scenarios where transfers are necessary)

We're long past that stage. Dublin clubs have been at this for 30+ years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on February 22, 2023, 09:59:56 AM
I don't go along with the notion that these transfers are on the rise or any more frequent. It's just a case of a cluster of more high profile players/teams involved no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2023, 10:28:48 AM
Yeah I would agree. It's always been going on just less people talking about it.

Shane Walsh seemed to magnify it a bit but just because one high profile boy does it it doesn't make it any greater than it was from what I can see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on February 22, 2023, 10:31:34 AM
Why did ryan murray come off early the other day? Will he be a doubt for this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2023, 12:54:28 PM
Looked like a hamstring twinge, hope it's not too serious Ryan definitely one of our most valuable players. I'd say he'll do a warm up before the game on Sunday and see what it's like!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
It's on saturday  ;D

Yeah hopefully he's available. I think saturday a very interesting game to show where we're at. I very much hope it's a winnable game but won't be easy.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2023, 03:01:30 PM
Indeed...2pm lol. Definitely a big game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:26:30 PM
Jarlath burns is going to be out to stop cash under counter to managers so the south west boys may get their house in order
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 22, 2023, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:26:30 PM
Jarlath burns is going to be out to stop cash under counter to managers so the south west boys may get their house in order

Would love to know how he is going to stop that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 22, 2023, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan

An email to HMRC?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 11:11:52 PM
Dunno something about rooting it out in the article i read
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 24, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan

Does be intend to refuse his own huge salary and all the enormous benefits.....as well as aĺll those going to like minded member if central council.....?
Our arganisation was founded on the principle that all change to rule would filter from.club via county and provincial to the central body.....

Am afraid such has ling since been abandoned......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2023, 09:15:45 AM
A lot of things have changed since that meeting in Hayes Hotel  back in 1884. The GAA is evolving with society, into a
a multi cultural organisation, envied and admired in equal measures, played in hundreds of countries throughout the world. It needs professional people to deliver this, I have no problem with that.

But hey...bring back the good old days where there was so much red tape it took a decade to decide who was buying the biscuits for the committee meeting!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 24, 2023, 11:13:11 AM
Cashless gates another sign of the times. Can understand how some older folk would prefer to pay cash at the gate, but its a small price to pay going online. The amount of thieving taking place at match day gates was chronic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 24, 2023, 11:47:29 AM
The President gets reimbursed for his salary he will not receive from his day job (surely you don't begrudge him that).

Also he is entitled to expenses, surely you pay at the gate for every match you attend CB whether you are reporting or not, or does that notebook double as contactless payment card?!


Quote from: country bumpkin on February 24, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan

Does be intend to refuse his own huge salary and all the enormous benefits.....as well as aĺll those going to like minded member if central council.....?
Our arganisation was founded on the principle that all change to rule would filter from.club via county and provincial to the central body.....

Am afraid such has ling since been abandoned......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2023, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 24, 2023, 11:47:29 AM
The President gets reimbursed for his salary he will not receive from his day job (surely you don't begrudge him that).

Also he is entitled to expenses, surely you pay at the gate for every match you attend CB whether you are reporting or not, or does that notebook double as contactless payment card?!


Quote from: country bumpkin on February 24, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan

Does be intend to refuse his own huge salary and all the enormous benefits.....as well as aĺll those going to like minded member if central council.....?
Our arganisation was founded on the principle that all change to rule would filter from.club via county and provincial to the central body.....

Am afraid such has ling since been abandoned......

He had to pay a few times last year  :D

When are the fixtures out?

I'm at christening the first day so someone will be pleased lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrdub on February 24, 2023, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2023, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 24, 2023, 11:47:29 AM
The President gets reimbursed for his salary he will not receive from his day job (surely you don't begrudge him that).

Also he is entitled to expenses, surely you pay at the gate for every match you attend CB whether you are reporting or not, or does that notebook double as contactless payment card?!


Quote from: country bumpkin on February 24, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan

Does be intend to refuse his own huge salary and all the enormous benefits.....as well as aĺll those going to like minded member if central council.....?
Our arganisation was founded on the principle that all change to rule would filter from.club via county and provincial to the central body.....

Am afraid such has ling since been abandoned......

He had to pay a few times last year  :D

When are the fixtures out?

I'm at christening the first day so someone will be pleased lol

Cancel the christening lad, there aren't enough refs availabel already
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on February 24, 2023, 02:16:02 PM
Fixtures available here:

https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 24, 2023, 07:46:20 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 24, 2023, 11:47:29 AM
The President gets reimbursed for his salary he will not receive from his day job (surely you don't begrudge him that).

Also he is entitled to expenses, surely you pay at the gate for every match you attend CB whether you are reporting or not, or does that notebook double as contactless payment card?!


Quote from: country bumpkin on February 24, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on February 22, 2023, 10:35:49 PM
Bright guy so must've plan

Does be intend to refuse his own huge salary and all the enormous benefits.....as well as aĺll those going to like minded member if central council.....?
Our arganisation was founded on the principle that all change to rule would filter from.club via county and provincial to the central body.....

Am afraid such has ling since been abandoned......

Whatever gave u that absurd idea.........?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 25, 2023, 03:42:38 PM
Letting an 8 point lead slip with 20 mins left again after what happened against Down is Pathetic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2023, 04:14:20 PM
Fermanagh led once in that game - in the 75th minute  >:(

Pathetic is not a fair word at all especially based on the wind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 25, 2023, 04:30:58 PM
Hard to put words on that, gutted that we threw it away like that. Couldn't close it out, even Bynre giving away the draw at the end never mind the win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2023, 04:48:26 PM
Just a real kick in the balls eoc.

We played very well in parts too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2023, 05:44:25 PM
Why hang a player out that put his heart and soul into that performance, including making a couple of extraordinary saves. Everyone in the history of the game has made a blunder on the pitch at some stage, but some just can't wait to get back to the keypad as quickly as possible and put the boot in. Sickening!

JF got caught in possession and overturned and some will take delight in that too, but there's a fella in his first season who's hardly put a foot wrong, and scored a cracking goal today as well. Maybe we can note the positives as well.

Yes some naivety for sure but anyone who supports this team over the years will have seen lots to like in getting good leads built up against teams in this most competitive division, and once Andy has players back and a full squad to choose from we can be seeing these games out.

Plenty to really like about this side even if the league table says otherwise. Sick as a parrot after that but hopefully hard lessons learned...we need to stick by this group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2023, 05:59:34 PM
Very well setup and played well bs. Our ending 15 probably not as strong as starting and Fermanagh's was the reverse. Also they got a lot of joy when they really starting pressuring our kickout. Really it was what we did to them in the first half but should have capitalised more. Gutting result but key thing is staying in the division. Also I wish we had their number 12 as he was some operator.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 25, 2023, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2023, 05:44:25 PM
Why hang a player out that put his heart and soul into that performance, including making a couple of extraordinary saves. Everyone in the history of the game has made a blunder on the pitch at some stage, but some just can't wait to get back to the keypad as quickly as possible and put the boot in. Sickening!

JF got caught in possession and overturned and some will take delight in that too, but there's a fella in his first season who's hardly put a foot wrong, and scored a cracking goal today as well. Maybe we can note the positives as well.

Yes some naivety for sure but anyone who supports this team over the years will have seen lots to like in getting good leads built up against teams in this most competitive division, and once Andy has players back and a full squad to choose from we can be seeing these games out.

Plenty to really like about this side even if the league table says otherwise. Sick as a parrot after that but hopefully hard lessons learned...we need to stick by this group.
Who put the boot in? Not allowed to discuss what happened or what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 25, 2023, 07:44:46 PM
I think the signs are positive overall for this team.  League games are tight.  Pipped at the post twice.  Hardly a crisis.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 25, 2023, 08:05:12 PM
2pts from the 15th minute in second half to the final whistle is brutal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2023, 10:59:00 PM
We've scored 75 points (averaging 19 points per game) in a tough division, playing exceptional football at times. The few who were in Newry or fewer still in Thurles know that, and today we saw it in spells.

All this with a huge injury list...Ryan Dermot Jamie Adam Decky Paddy McBride and others.

Who all's for Glennon Park?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 26, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
We have also conceded 75 points. 

We are definitely playing better than at the start of the season.  Bonuses are we are scoring more and have more possession than previously.  Minuses are we are collapsing and conceding badly once pressure is applied to us. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 26, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
Yeah it's about winning games, finding a way, scoring average doesent matter a shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 26, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2023, 10:59:00 PM
We've scored 75 points (averaging 19 points per game) in a tough division, playing exceptional football at times. The few who were in Newry or fewer still in Thurles know that, and today we saw it in spells.

All this with a huge injury list...Ryan Dermot Jamie Adam Decky Paddy McBride and others.

Who all's for Glennon Park?
Not allowed to comment on Antrims games unless you travel Ireland watching them, that the rules on here lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 26, 2023, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 26, 2023, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2023, 10:59:00 PM
We've scored 75 points (averaging 19 points per game) in a tough division, playing exceptional football at times. The few who were in Newry or fewer still in Thurles know that, and today we saw it in spells.

All this with a huge injury list...Ryan Dermot Jamie Adam Decky Paddy McBride and others.

Who all's for Glennon Park?
Not allowed to comment on Antrims games unless you travel Ireland w
atching them, that the rules on here lads

Anyone know why one of the best young players in the county, Sean O' Neill cannot get a sniff....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 26, 2023, 11:47:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2023, 10:59:00 PM
We've scored 75 points (averaging 19 points per game) in a tough division, playing exceptional football at times. The few who were in Newry or fewer still in Thurles know that, and today we saw it in spells.

All this with a huge injury list...Ryan Dermot Jamie Adam Decky Paddy McBride and others.

Who all's for Glennon Park?

For Longford Offaly ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2023, 01:28:06 PM
So many rookies and first years were in or around the action yesterday. Keeper, Oisin, Finnegan twins, Mc Larnon, Dommo and Hynds when he came on...just too much inexperience when the game was in the melting pot during last five minutes. Yet in the end the killer blow was a big fist by Quigley for the second week in a row to grab the points.

Such very small margins yet some can't wait to name shame and condemn, without a passing word in recognition of the fabulous effort and excellent passages of play that enabled us to go 8 up. Or the superb contributions from (amongst others) Stewart, Healy, Jordan, Mc Cann at FF and Joseph Finnegan who looks nailed on to play for next five or six years.

When this period of transition settles,  a few injuries heal up and maybe one or two return to the fold, we will have a team ready to face the next few years with real confidence.

Sean O Neill will play his way in, and trust me it wont be too long before Ryan Mc Quillan, Aidan Mc Aleese and possibly Conchur Johnston will be in that mix, if not this year,  definitely next.

From what i see I'd be more confident of a performance or two in the Tailteean Cup this year than I was last year....but time will tell!

Is it too much to expect us to all to get behind that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 26, 2023, 04:16:58 PM
Losing an 8 point lead in the 2nd half when both teams are at a similar level in modern day Gaelic football is absolutely criminal. End of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2023, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 26, 2023, 04:16:58 PM
Losing an 8 point lead in the 2nd half when both teams are at a similar level in modern day Gaelic football is absolutely criminal. End of.

Maybe you should 'support' someone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2023, 07:19:22 PM
And noticaby absent was a positive comment after we polished off Tipp last week. Saving your comments for defeats RealisticSaffs?

Funny Westmeath did the same last night, squandered an 8 pt lead and never scored last 20 mins. It happens!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2023, 07:48:08 PM
Reading the division three thread the reckoning was tipp were better than Longford and Longford were lucky (from a Longford person) and that is our must win game. I don't think we could get anything against Cavan but think we may have a chance against Westmeath.

While the outcome was massively disappointing yesterday we have definitely improved massively. The defensive structure is so much better and we appear to have found a few players. Rory McCann at ff is a fantastic outlet but we have to remember he needs support and not isolate him so much too.

Key thing now is to stay in the division. You look at the results in division four and that is a minefield. If we stay in it then next year I think the teams coming up will be much stronger than the teams going down but the same could be said for three to two so it'll maybe even itself out. If we got a good run in the tailteann cup then that would be a good platform for next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2023, 08:16:17 PM
Plus one. All talk previously was players not available, lets get behind those who are....no matter what club or part of county they come from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 26, 2023, 09:14:54 PM
Was at the game. Very positive from what I could see. New players doing well and progressing.
Whilst throwing away an 8 point lead is a bit of a disaster at this level, the style of play is unrecognisable from what we saw last year. It'll come down to the Longford game to stay up and staying up will be an achievement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 27, 2023, 09:55:31 AM
It's a game of football lads, nobody has died.

We'll go again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 27, 2023, 07:45:04 PM
MR what game you got this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2023, 10:28:43 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 27, 2023, 07:45:04 PM
MR what game you got this weekend?

None
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 28, 2023, 01:25:28 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 28, 2023, 12:32:48 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon-away win by at least 10
Ahoghill v N Bríd-away win by 3
St Galls v Casements-high scoring Draw
Lamh Dhearg v St John's-home win by 2
Randalstown v Cargin-draw
Creggan v Rossa-home win 6+

Jesus! With no county players and a few injuries I wouldn't be putting my house on that!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 28, 2023, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 28, 2023, 12:32:48 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon-away win by at least 10
Ahoghill v N Bríd-away win by 3
St Galls v Casements-high scoring Draw
Lamh Dhearg v St John's-home win by 2
Randalstown v Cargin-draw
Creggan v Rossa-home win 6+

Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon-away win by 4
Ahoghill v N Bríd- home win by 7
St Galls v Casements- Away win by 10
Lamh Dhearg v St John's- St John's by 5
Tir na nog v Cargin- depends on Cargins team
Creggan v Rossa- Creggan by 10 plus

Remember you have to factor in county is on at the same time, the u20s is this weekend aswell apart from Portglenone, Ahoghill and Creggan everyone is way understrength

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 28, 2023, 01:38:33 PM
Cargin 3rds playing in div2 reserve league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 28, 2023, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 28, 2023, 01:25:28 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 28, 2023, 12:32:48 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon-away win by at least 10
Ahoghill v N Bríd-away win by 3
St Galls v Casements-high scoring Draw
Lamh Dhearg v St John's-home win by 2
Randalstown v Cargin-draw
Creggan v Rossa-home win 6+

Jesus! With no county players and a few injuries I wouldn't be putting my house on that!!

Moneyglass missing the 2 Duffins and 2 McCormicks this weekend I don't think the 'we didnt have" excuse is going to wash with anyone frankly as everyone is in the same boat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on February 28, 2023, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 28, 2023, 01:41:29 PM
Cargin have a 3rds team yes in div 2 reserve
Seniors down mimimun of 13 players this weekend with County duty&injury

I feel like you've just plucked 13 from your head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on February 28, 2023, 09:57:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on February 16, 2023, 04:16:01 PM
Surprised SG haven't got their usual "club manager's for 2023" post up yet

Management of all three divisions now uploaded on S G....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 28, 2023, 11:25:25 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on February 28, 2023, 12:32:48 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon-away win by at least 10
Ahoghill v N Bríd-away win by 3
St Galls v Casements-high scoring Draw
Lamh Dhearg v St John's-home win by 2
Randalstown v Cargin-draw
Creggan v Rossa-home win 6+

Think Aghagallon will win but it will be very tight
Ahoghill to take the points
Casements to win
LD to win
Cargin to win, I know Cargin have a lot missing but so do tir na Nog , think a handy enough away win
Creggan to win handy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 01, 2023, 09:16:15 AM
Fancy Aghagallon, St Brigids, Casements and Creggan all to win by 6+ points. Expect LD to win narrowly and the mighty Randalstown to cause an upset based on their early season form last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 01, 2023, 10:12:41 AM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon- AG win by 5
Ahoghill v N Bríd- Ahoghill win by 3
St Galls v Casements-PG1 by 4
Lamh Dhearg v St John's- LD win by 3
Randalstown v Cargin- Cargin by 5
Creggan v Rossa- Creggan by 2

Results will be haywire for the early stages of the league with county players missing all over the place, but I dont expect any major shocks in rd 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on March 01, 2023, 12:00:11 PM

Anyone know why one of the best young players in the county, Sean O' Neill cannot get a sniff....?
[/quote]

Get Big john lewis from pg1 back on the scene and he will do some serious damage in division 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 01, 2023, 12:09:03 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon - MG by 1
Ahoghill v N Bríd - Ahoghill win by 2
St Galls v Casements - PG1 by 4
Lamh Dhearg v St John's- LD win by 1
Randalstown v Cargin- Draw
Creggan v Rossa- Creggan by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 01, 2023, 01:15:41 PM
Div 1 predictions.
Moneyglass v Aghagallon - Draw
Ahoghill v N Bríd - Brid by 4
St Galls v Casements - PG1 by 3
Lamh Dhearg v St John's- LD win by 5
Randalstown v Cargin- Cargin by 8
Creggan v Rossa- Creggan by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2023, 09:11:40 PM
Between u17, senior and reserve....34 club games this Sunday. That's some undertaking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2023, 09:12:18 PM
Bad defeat for u20 footballers tonight v Meath, disappointing to read that. 2.19 to 0.4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 04, 2023, 12:32:29 AM
U20 decimated with injuries I heard during the week, only 16 player available for the Meath game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on March 04, 2023, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2023, 09:11:40 PM
Between u17, senior and reserve....34 club games this Sunday. That's some undertaking
34 games/34 referees,so no shortice this weekend so what's the reason with 10am throw ins for Sen games on the 12th/19th weekends, especially when there are no res games or county games on those dates only u17 games at 12 o clock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 04, 2023, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: referee on March 04, 2023, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2023, 09:11:40 PM
Between u17, senior and reserve....34 club games this Sunday. That's some undertaking
34 games/34 referees,so no shortice this weekend so what's the reason with 10am throw ins for Sen games on the 12th/19th weekends, especially when there are no res games or county games on those dates only u17 games at 12 o clock

Antrim Senior Hurling team  playing at 1pm and 1.45 pm on those two dates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 04, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
I'm in the minority who is liking the idea of 10am starts. Soccer and rugby have been playing early morning for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 04, 2023, 10:03:27 AM
I agree Jim. Let lads have the rest of their day free to enjoy and spend time with friends and family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2023, 10:32:25 AM
Quote from: referee on March 04, 2023, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 03, 2023, 09:11:40 PM
Between u17, senior and reserve....34 club games this Sunday. That's some undertaking
34 games/34 referees,so no shortice this weekend so what's the reason with 10am throw ins for Sen games on the 12th/19th weekends, especially when there are no res games or county games on those dates only u17 games at 12 o clock

Who's available to actually cover those games? I'm not doing games, others could be injured.. looking like lads will be double jobbing this Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2023, 10:52:13 AM
2 x Downey transfers from Lavey to St Brigids have been confirmed. Certainly won't do their prospects any harm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 04, 2023, 11:12:30 AM
Surely certs to avoid relegation now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on March 04, 2023, 11:14:30 AM
Thanks delgany
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 04, 2023, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2023, 10:52:13 AM
2 x Downey transfers from Lavey to St Brigids have been confirmed. Certainly won't do their prospects any harm.

A very poor reflection on the Lavey club. What a mess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 04, 2023, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 04, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
I'm in the minority who is liking the idea of 10am starts. Soccer and rugby have been playing early morning for years.

Absolutely! It's a great move. From what I hear players are in general agreement also. Not so good for those who decide to have a few beers the night before  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 04, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 04, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
I'm in the minority who is liking the idea of 10am starts. Soccer and rugby have been playing early morning for years.

10 am is the way to go.

Even at senior inter-county level, games should be a couple of hours earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 04, 2023, 03:17:11 PM
I like the thought of having all day to complain and give off about a referee rather than wait to around to 4 or 5 o'clock on a Sunday to start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 04, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Left to concentrate on the March Div 1 league fixtures 🙈
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 04, 2023, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 04, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Left to concentrate on the March Div 1 league fixtures 🙈

Great to see them put the club first.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 05, 2023, 08:16:42 AM
Surely there's a balance though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 05, 2023, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 04, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Left to concentrate on the March Div 1 league fixtures 🙈

Play for your club in the league on a Sunday or play for your county in a friendly away to meath in a nothing game on a Friday night i know what I'm picking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 05, 2023, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 05, 2023, 08:29:44 AM
Surely playing both games was an option?

The u20 lads are only able to play 1 half today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 05, 2023, 09:43:58 AM
Admittedly I'm one of those who generally complains but doesn't involve myself enough in the club to try to influence change through the correct channels. But, how in the name of God have we got to the point where we have actively hindered both our club and county teams with this ludicrous league start shambles. Amazing. Just Amazing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 05, 2023, 09:44:44 AM
Meath U20's were Leinster champions at minor and had a reputation for being a big physical team. Derry beat them in the All Ireland semi.

100's of fellas down the years have opted not to play for Antrim from most of the clubs on this Board, it's nothing new.  It won't be a problem when we are wining Ulster titles, so a bit of a chicken and egg thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2023, 10:09:58 AM
Are Meath not u17 AI champions from 3years ago?

I see the team for today hasn't Jordan on it - he must be injured as no way you could drop him after how he played last week. I  am hopeful we could maybe get something out of today's game. Westmeath need to win too or no promotion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 05, 2023, 10:24:43 AM
Heading down here now. Injuries seem to be piling rather than clearing up, but I'm optimistic today. I really think we can scrape the win. The likes of S O'Neill and P McCormick should get a run, I hope. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 05, 2023, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2023, 10:09:58 AM
Are Meath not u17 AI champions from 3years ago?

I see the team for today hasn't Jordan on it - he must be injured as no way you could drop him after how he played last week. I  am hopeful we could maybe get something out of today's game. Westmeath need to win too or no promotion.
I think this years U20 is the age group where Derry won the All Ireland Minor.  They beat Meath in Newry in the semifinal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2023, 02:08:06 PM
Our game v Westmeath commentary here https://www.midlands103.com/player/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2023, 02:23:44 PM
Sounds grim so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2023, 02:37:14 PM
Currently 2-10 to 0-3.

Bad times  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 05, 2023, 02:59:46 PM
A shellacking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
Longford winning too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2023, 03:37:29 PM
31 point defeat  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 05, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Painful is an understatement.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 05, 2023, 04:03:19 PM
I can't even see bannside coming up with anything optimistic after that  scoreline
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:49:24 PM
Why have Antrim club leagues started so early? Also, is it not shambolic having the league starting on the same day the county is actually playing? League games at 10am the next couple of Sundays as well.  How come Antrim county board hate club football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 05, 2023, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:49:24 PM
Why have Antrim club leagues started so early? Also, is it not shambolic having the league starting on the same day the county is actually playing? League games at 10am the next couple of Sundays as well.  How come Antrim county board hate club football?

We are a hurling county.....have been for a long time....simple as....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
Seems to be that way,  would any other county in Ireland have started playing league club football yet bar Antrim? I could be wrong but it seems much earlier certainly than any other county in Ulster?  League games at 10am next couple of weeks as well is just downright disrespectful is it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2023, 08:01:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 05, 2023, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:49:24 PM
Why have Antrim club leagues started so early? Also, is it not shambolic having the league starting on the same day the county is actually playing? League games at 10am the next couple of Sundays as well.  How come Antrim county board hate club football?

We are a hurling county.....have been for a long time....simple as....

When one team is regularly in div 3 or 4 and the other is in div 2 or 1 that generally gives ya (if ya are clever) an idea where to put your eggs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2023, 08:03:40 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
Seems to be that way,  would any other county in Ireland have started playing league club football yet bar Antrim? I could be wrong but it seems much earlier certainly than any other county in Ulster?  League games at 10am next couple of weeks as well is just downright disrespectful is it not?

Why? What actual impact does it have on the senior county team?

Was speaking to someone today at 10am and he was glad their game was that early
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2023, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
Seems to be that way,  would any other county in Ireland have started playing league club football yet bar Antrim? I could be wrong but it seems much earlier certainly than any other county in Ulster?  League games at 10am next couple of weeks as well is just downright disrespectful is it not?

Why or how are 10am games disrespectful?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 05, 2023, 08:26:35 PM
1 win in 7 under Mcentee in all Competitions. Grim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 05, 2023, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 05, 2023, 08:26:35 PM
1 win in 7 under Mcentee in all Competitions. Grim.

There were positive signs last week but today the wheels came off in glorious fashion. Players downed tools.
I can't remember a hammering like it and it'll have done serious damage, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2023, 09:04:45 PM
A manager who presents a team to be so impressive against Down, Tipp and Fermanagh, (we created 3 goal chances against Offaly too that should have been enough to clinch the points) must be sitting in Meath right now thinking the same thing.

I may well be in a minority and I'm only one opinion, but like Cork beat Limerick by 24 last week in Div 2, or Liverpool beat Man Utd 7 - 0 earlier this evening, I prefer to take the view that in any given season you'll get a couple of results that completely buck the trend, either in a positive way (we could have beat Tipp by 15 away) or like today when we were against a seasoned Div 2 team and we were depleted by injuries. Thats on top of the well documented list of unavailables.

Things haven't changed in that we need to go to Longford in our last game and get a result to have a chance of staying up. Same as hurlers against Laois. That's where we are at, sensationalism or faux surprise won't change that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 05, 2023, 09:18:58 PM
Who was missing today from the Fermanagh match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 05, 2023, 09:40:32 PM
Same starting 15 CK except Sean O Neill in for injured Marc Jordan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 05, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
10 am games are sh1te. End of discussion.

Games should be 2pm and 3.30pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on March 05, 2023, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 05, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
10 am games are sh1te. End of discussion.

Games should be 2pm and 3.30pm.

10 am is good that it gets it out the way instead of waiting about to 3/4

The downside is if you are a team with some distance to travel to PG1 if you are aghagallon or even a Belfast club you need to be up and away early
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 05, 2023, 10:20:01 PM
Jeez, and the Mc Ginley management team were shark food last season when relegation was not an issue......

But we can always blame Sean og.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2023, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: ck on March 05, 2023, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 05, 2023, 08:26:35 PM
1 win in 7 under Mcentee in all Competitions. Grim.

There were positive signs last week but today the wheels came off in glorious fashion. Players downed tools.
I can't remember a hammering like it and it'll have done serious damage, no doubt about it.

31 points is going to seriously demoralise. I don't know if I've ever seen us beat by that much and I have seen some bad ones, like the rest of us, over the years.

Still, like bs said, the key thing is the Longford game and that doesn't change. Even if Longford win the next day if we took two points of them it would go head to head. (That is assuming Cavan beat us and tbh their odds will be ridiculous after that match today and given they are probably better than Westmeath).

So it's all about the Longford match but the Cavan game may not be pretty :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 05, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 05, 2023, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 04, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Left to concentrate on the March Div 1 league fixtures 🙈

Play for your club in the league on a Sunday or play for your county in a friendly away to meath in a nothing game on a Friday night i know what I'm picking

Not a challenge game, Leo Murphy cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2023, 10:46:58 PM
Surely today is an outlier. We aren't a bad team overnight and there were lots of factors around the team today which will have had an impact. We have a two week gap now to work on structure, game plan and hopefully get some injured players back. I think we can give Cavan a game at home on 18th and yes, it will likely come down to beating Longford on the 26th. Chatting briefly to Andy McE on Friday; his passion for the team and insights are impressive. I wouldn't hold up today as a true barometer of where we are. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 05, 2023, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on March 05, 2023, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 05, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
10 am games are sh1te. End of discussion.

Games should be 2pm and 3.30pm.

10 am is good that it gets it out the way instead of waiting about to 3/4

The downside is if you are a team with some distance to travel to PG1 if you are aghagallon or even a Belfast club you need to be up and away early

Afaik...clubs can re arrange the throw in time  between them , rather than go for 10am
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 05, 2023, 11:13:02 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2023, 10:46:58 PM
Surely today is an outlier. We aren't a bad team overnight and there were lots of factors around the team today which will have had an impact. We have a two week gap now to work on structure, game plan and hopefully get some injured players back. I think we can give Cavan a game at home on 18th and yes, it will likely come down to beating Longford on the 26th. Chatting briefly to Andy McE on Friday; his passion for the team and insights are impressive. I wouldn't hold up today as a true barometer of where we are.

Very true. Sometimes shit just happens to put it politely.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 05, 2023, 11:26:39 PM
Listening to midlands radio today it seemed we were over reliant on playing a long ball into a very isolated R McCann at FF. He has been great for us this season but today it sounded that every ball was played into him and we had no build up play or runners. Been a good variety of attack previously so don't know why it changed today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 06, 2023, 06:59:50 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 05, 2023, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on March 05, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
Seems to be that way,  would any other county in Ireland have started playing league club football yet bar Antrim? I could be wrong but it seems much earlier certainly than any other county in Ulster?  League games at 10am next couple of weeks as well is just downright disrespectful is it not?

Why or how are 10am games disrespectful?

You don't think that organising all county senior league games at 10am on a Sunday morning has that feeling of contempt? It's earlier than go games on a Saturday ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 06, 2023, 08:48:28 AM
CB - what do you mean we can all blame Sean Og. Struggling to get my head around that? Care to explain where that came from!!

Hearing now that x 2 Downeys may not be the actual right number of transfers to Brigids. Anyone willing to tidy this up. Brendan maybe??

That was a shattering result yesterday, hard to know how much long term damage has been done psychologically, and Cavan aren't going to show us any mercy in their promotion hunt.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 06, 2023, 09:13:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2023, 08:48:28 AM
CB - what do you mean we can all blame Sean Og. Struggling to get my head around that? Care to explain where that came from!!

Hearing now that x 2 Downeys may not be the actual right number of transfers to Brigids. Anyone willing to tidy this up. Brendan maybe??

That was a shattering result yesterday, hard to know how much long term damage has been done psychologically, and Cavan aren't going to show us any mercy in their promotion hunt.
They'll need more than the Downeys judging by that result yesterday. A couple of late goals making it look respectable. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 06, 2023, 09:30:26 AM
To be fair, St Brigids are missing all their Antrim and Derry county players today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 06, 2023, 09:40:57 AM
Funny Antrim and Derry were missing their st.brigids players too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on March 06, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
How have the Downey's come to transfer?

This is a very sad situation and how a club like Lavey can let this happen does not sit with me. When you think of Lavey you think of Henry and Seamus Downey and the McGurks in the famous red and black from 91 when they won the All-Ireland like Down. Its not right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 06, 2023, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on March 06, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
How have the Downey's come to transfer?

This is a very sad situation and how a club like Lavey can let this happen does not sit with me. When you think of Lavey you think of Henry and Seamus Downey and the McGurks in the famous red and black from 91 when they won the All-Ireland like Down. Its not right.

Couldn't agree more. I had heard from a Lavey member that there was no-way they were going to let it happen but it sounds like it might be? No matter what the row was about, your club is bigger than your pride/ego. Club should always win. Running away to another club is no answer.

Not sure if it'll help St.Brigids in the longer term either. Fit them better to focus on bringing their younger players through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 06, 2023, 11:59:55 AM
I can see Derry going deep again this year so will probably only have them come the championship.

What do management say to the lads that will inevitably be dropped when they come in? " thanks very much lads for playing the league but theres a few boys from another club taking your spot". Stinks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 06, 2023, 12:37:07 PM
Quote from: ck on March 06, 2023, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on March 06, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
How have the Downey's come to transfer?

This is a very sad situation and how a club like Lavey can let this happen does not sit with me. When you think of Lavey you think of Henry and Seamus Downey and the McGurks in the famous red and black from 91 when they won the All-Ireland like Down. Its not right.

Couldn't agree more. I had heard from a Lavey member that there was no-way they were going to let it happen but it sounds like it might be? No matter what the row was about, your club is bigger than your pride/ego. Club should always win. Running away to another club is no answer.

Not sure if it'll help St.Brigids in the longer term either. Fit them better to focus on bringing their younger players through.



Indeed, Brigid's are the reigning county minor champs and beaten finalists 2020/21 a club with a vast resevoir of youth available.......

Previous comment right in the mark.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 06, 2023, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on March 06, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
How have the Downey's come to transfer?

This is a very sad situation and how a club like Lavey can let this happen does not sit with me. When you think of Lavey you think of Henry and Seamus Downey and the McGurks in the famous red and black from 91 when they won the All-Ireland like Down. Its not right.

Yeah but when the Downeys & Mcgurks fall out it was going to be an explosion and a half.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 06, 2023, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on March 06, 2023, 11:59:55 AM

What do management say to the lads that will inevitably be dropped when they come in? " thanks very much lads for playing the league but theres a few boys from another club taking your spot". Stinks.

St Brigids strike me as a club that dont give a toss where their players come from they'd be more than happy with a starting team of 15 blow ins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 06, 2023, 01:35:22 PM
Cruel. The ones I spoke to were well aware of that possibility and said it wasn't sitting easily with many club members. Re players missing out on gametime as a result....maybe they had a collective vote and decided to give it their blessing.

There's other extenuating factors...such as strong established family links. Their grandfather was a forming member of St Brigids. That may have carried some weight.

No point in jumping on here without a bit of balance on the subject.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on March 06, 2023, 01:47:31 PM
Lavey has a long legacy, you would have thought someone could have got this sorted. Its a very sad situation and i wonder will Brolly write about it. That's his club in Belfast isn't it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2023, 01:58:51 PM
I don't know how it will work if they're away with the county half the year. Derry will be about for a good while so they won't be playing. They can't realiistically come to a new club not having played and just jump onto a team in front of boys who have been playing all year. Sounds like a tricky situation tbh. If they were about all year it could be managed.

Downeys and McGurks fall out. That would about explain it if that is what happened
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 06, 2023, 02:00:08 PM
BS, my point is this; Brigids have been extremely successful at underage the past 10 years or so. In the last 5 years theyve won a minor chsip and 3 (i think) u-21s. Thats some going and proves there is ample talent within the club. Why is there a need to bring the Downeys in? Be loyal to the lads that have won the club countless trophies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Regardless of being successful at underage level. There will be boys that have been coached from young kids to adult level miss out because of a fall out from another club. Our games unfortunatly following the soccer route with growing transfer lists every year. Fall outs / lack of game time / smaller clubs losing better players to the bigger clubs. Sad to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 06, 2023, 03:11:55 PM
In fairness to St Brigids I font think they pushed for this at any point. They are well aware that home bred players will lose out on game time, and that many in the club were against it...hoping that the situation could be resolved with Lavey GAC. But that didn't happen and when the official inter county transfer application came through they had to deal with it.

I heard two players last week, but then heard a bigger number last night. So really don't know the definitive answer to that. Maybe there will be some informed comment on the matter soon....Brolly the best bet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 06, 2023, 03:28:06 PM
If you have the chance to get county footballers into your club, you take them. That would be my thinking anyway.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 06, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Regardless of being successful at underage level. There will be boys that have been coached from young kids to adult level miss out because of a fall out from another club. Our games unfortunatly following the soccer route with growing transfer lists every year. Fall outs / lack of game time / smaller clubs losing better players to the bigger clubs. Sad to see

'Growing transfer lists every year'? Any evidence of this? Not trying to be an arse here by the way. I just think the handful of transfers in the public eye are being sensationalised into a growing issue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 06, 2023, 03:35:07 PM
Suppose its a matter of opinion. Im on the side of being loyal to your own.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 06, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Regardless of being successful at underage level. There will be boys that have been coached from young kids to adult level miss out because of a fall out from another club. Our games unfortunatly following the soccer route with growing transfer lists every year. Fall outs / lack of game time / smaller clubs losing better players to the bigger clubs. Sad to see

'Growing transfer lists every year'? Any evidence of this? Not trying to be an arse here by the way. I just think the handful of transfers in the public eye are being sensationalised into a growing issue

I cant back this up with figures but i have seen the club transfers this year and its a substantial amount
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

That's my point, if it's not fixable and all avenues have been used to resolve it then that's that. There's not too many clubs that haven't used this to their advantage btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

That's my point, if it's not fixable and all avenues have been used to resolve it then that's that. There's not too many clubs that haven't used this to their advantage btw
If all avenues were exhausted then the final decision still rests with St Brigid's.  If I was on their committee I'd be voting for "thanks but no thanks".

If it was some lad who had moved up from Limerick and was marrying a local then sign him up.  But the Lavey thing is just an ugly club row which can't be sorted due to the stubbornness of the people involved. Their stubbornness won them an All Ireland but now the same traits are  working against them.

Stick with the lads who've been with you all the way up. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

That's my point, if it's not fixable and all avenues have been used to resolve it then that's that. There's not too many clubs that haven't used this to their advantage btw
If all avenues were exhausted then the final decision still rests with St Brigid's.  If I was on their committee I'd be voting for "thanks but no thanks".

If it was some lad who had moved up from Limerick and was marrying a local then sign him up.  But the Lavey thing is just an ugly club row which can't be sorted due to the stubbornness of the people involved. Their stubbornness won them an All Ireland but now the same traits are  working against them.

Stick with the lads who've been with you all the way up.

So you're in favour of they stop playing altogether with a club and county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

That's my point, if it's not fixable and all avenues have been used to resolve it then that's that. There's not too many clubs that haven't used this to their advantage btw
If all avenues were exhausted then the final decision still rests with St Brigid's.  If I was on their committee I'd be voting for "thanks but no thanks".

If it was some lad who had moved up from Limerick and was marrying a local then sign him up.  But the Lavey thing is just an ugly club row which can't be sorted due to the stubbornness of the people involved. Their stubbornness won them an All Ireland but now the same traits are  working against them.

Stick with the lads who've been with you all the way up.

So you're in favour of they stop playing altogether with a club and county?
Lavey haven't disbanded, they've fallen out among themselves.  That's their problem to sort, not St Brigid's.  If I was on St Brigid's committee I'd be in favour of saying no thanks.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

That's my point, if it's not fixable and all avenues have been used to resolve it then that's that. There's not too many clubs that haven't used this to their advantage btw
If all avenues were exhausted then the final decision still rests with St Brigid's.  If I was on their committee I'd be voting for "thanks but no thanks".

If it was some lad who had moved up from Limerick and was marrying a local then sign him up.  But the Lavey thing is just an ugly club row which can't be sorted due to the stubbornness of the people involved. Their stubbornness won them an All Ireland but now the same traits are  working against them.

Stick with the lads who've been with you all the way up.

So you're in favour of they stop playing altogether with a club and county?
Lavey haven't disbanded, they've fallen out among themselves.  That's their problem to sort, not St Brigid's.  If I was on St Brigid's committee I'd be in favour of saying no thanks.  Simple as that.

I believe they have tried to mediate this rift but the outcome is they won't play for Lavey. So whether the club hasn't disbanded they won't play for them.

I've had some experience of this many years ago and remember well sitting in the homes of both players trying to sort out a rift that eventually after all our efforts,  left, one losing out on our great run of success, but felt there was no way of playing.

So you're still saying don't play at all? Very black and white.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: smort on March 06, 2023, 07:08:47 PM
Is anybody able to say what the rift is about?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 06, 2023, 07:33:23 PM
This is a very sad situation and how a club like Lavey can let this happen does not sit with me. When you think of Lavey you think of Henry and Seamus Downey and the McGurks in the famous red and black from 91 when they won the All-Ireland like Down. Its not right.
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Couldn't agree more. I had heard from a Lavey member that there was no-way they were going to let it happen but it sounds like it might be? No matter what the row was about, your club is bigger than your pride/ego. Club should always win. Running away to another club is no answer.

Not sure if it'll help St.Brigids in the longer term either. Fit them better to focus on bringing their younger players through.

ask St Endas girls, they felt that no other option was available

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 06, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
So if the rift isn't fixable. Should they just stop playing for a club and lose out on County?

Absolutly not. But as long as long as every possibility to resolve the matter has taken place. Its all too easy now to print a form and sign it. This seems to have been going on a long time now so possibly best to move on

Its the transfers without a fall out or a location move that get me and need to be taken out of our game

That's my point, if it's not fixable and all avenues have been used to resolve it then that's that. There's not too many clubs that haven't used this to their advantage btw
If all avenues were exhausted then the final decision still rests with St Brigid's.  If I was on their committee I'd be voting for "thanks but no thanks".

If it was some lad who had moved up from Limerick and was marrying a local then sign him up.  But the Lavey thing is just an ugly club row which can't be sorted due to the stubbornness of the people involved. Their stubbornness won them an All Ireland but now the same traits are  working against them.

Stick with the lads who've been with you all the way up.

So you're in favour of they stop playing altogether with a club and county?
Lavey haven't disbanded, they've fallen out among themselves.  That's their problem to sort, not St Brigid's.  If I was on St Brigid's committee I'd be in favour of saying no thanks.  Simple as that.

I believe they have tried to mediate this rift but the outcome is they won't play for Lavey. So whether the club hasn't disbanded they won't play for them.

I've had some experience of this many years ago and remember well sitting in the homes of both players trying to sort out a rift that eventually after all our efforts,  left, one losing out on our great run of success, but felt there was no way of playing.

So you're still saying don't play at all? Very black and white.
It's a very tough situation no doubt about it.  I'm just saying what I would do. On balance I'd rather not see St Brigid's players sitting in a dug out with their places taken by players from another club who've had a fall out. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 06, 2023, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 06, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Regardless of being successful at underage level. There will be boys that have been coached from young kids to adult level miss out because of a fall out from another club. Our games unfortunatly following the soccer route with growing transfer lists every year. Fall outs / lack of game time / smaller clubs losing better players to the bigger clubs. Sad to see

'Growing transfer lists every year'? Any evidence of this? Not trying to be an arse here by the way. I just think the handful of transfers in the public eye are being sensationalised into a growing issue

There was approximately 125 internal transfers in Antrim this year, as compared to 80 in 2022!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 06, 2023, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 06, 2023, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 06, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Regardless of being successful at underage level. There will be boys that have been coached from young kids to adult level miss out because of a fall out from another club. Our games unfortunatly following the soccer route with growing transfer lists every year. Fall outs / lack of game time / smaller clubs losing better players to the bigger clubs. Sad to see

'Growing transfer lists every year'? Any evidence of this? Not trying to be an arse here by the way. I just think the handful of transfers in the public eye are being sensationalised into a growing issue

There was approximately 125 internal transfers in Antrim this year, as compared to 80 in 2022!

Holy shit that's a lot !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2023, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 06, 2023, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 06, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
Regardless of being successful at underage level. There will be boys that have been coached from young kids to adult level miss out because of a fall out from another club. Our games unfortunatly following the soccer route with growing transfer lists every year. Fall outs / lack of game time / smaller clubs losing better players to the bigger clubs. Sad to see

'Growing transfer lists every year'? Any evidence of this? Not trying to be an arse here by the way. I just think the handful of transfers in the public eye are being sensationalised into a growing issue

There was approximately 125 internal transfers in Antrim this year, as compared to 80 in 2022!

How can we see them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 08:40:48 PM
These are a mixture of lads coming back home temporary transfers due to club's folding or no grade available? Along with of course lads just leaving?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 06, 2023, 09:32:19 PM
The GAA transfer system was designed to allow lads move to clubs where they now live and work.
For 5 Lavey men who live in Lavey to use a Belfast address to transfer to a Belfast club so they can give 2 fingers up to their own club is just wrong in my book.
St.Brigids should not be facilitating the move but of course they'll struggle to see past filling their senior team with 5 county Derry players, and alienating 5+ of their own young players in the process.

It's wrong, it shouldnt be allowed and is bending the rules IMO. Many will disagree I'm sure.

As for those saying 'would you rather see them not play'?
Firstly they'll play with Derry regardless and secondly should this exit route not be available then the rift may have been easier to resolve and clear up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
Do they not live in south Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 06, 2023, 09:36:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 06, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
Do they not live in south Belfast?

No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 06, 2023, 09:38:46 PM
Who are the 5?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 06, 2023, 09:41:26 PM
Could their great uncle not have taken them up to swatragh ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 06, 2023, 09:52:25 PM
Antrim CCC would havd to sign off those inter county transfers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: ck on March 06, 2023, 09:32:19 PM
The GAA transfer system was designed to allow lads move to clubs where they now live and work.
For 5 Lavey men who live in Lavey to use a Belfast address to transfer to a Belfast club so they can give 2 fingers up to their own club is just wrong in my book.
St.Brigids should not be facilitating the move but of course they'll struggle to see past filling their senior team with 5 county Derry players, and alienating 5+ of their own young players in the process.

It's wrong, it shouldnt be allowed and is bending the rules IMO. Many will disagree I'm sure.

As for those saying 'would you rather see them not play'?
Firstly they'll play with Derry regardless and secondly should this exit route not be available then the rift may have been easier to resolve and clear up.

Btw I'm not in agreement with what's going on, but none of us are in the real know of what's been going on in the background. The players were going to go to a club, not sure if the rules of not being affiliated to a club and playing for your county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 06, 2023, 09:57:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: ck on March 06, 2023, 09:32:19 PM
The GAA transfer system was designed to allow lads move to clubs where they now live and work.
For 5 Lavey men who live in Lavey to use a Belfast address to transfer to a Belfast club so they can give 2 fingers up to their own club is just wrong in my book.
St.Brigids should not be facilitating the move but of course they'll struggle to see past filling their senior team with 5 county Derry players, and alienating 5+ of their own young players in the process.

It's wrong, it shouldnt be allowed and is bending the rules IMO. Many will disagree I'm sure.

As for those saying 'would you rather see them not play'?
Firstly they'll play with Derry regardless and secondly should this exit route not be available then the rift may have been easier to resolve and clear up.

Btw I'm not in agreement with what's going on, but none of us are in the real know of what's been going on in the background. The players were going to go to a club, not sure if the rules of not being affiliated to a club and playing for your county.


Peter Canavan was registered with Killyclogher Hurling Club at the start of his Tyrone career,due to similiar circumstances !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 06, 2023, 09:57:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2023, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: ck on March 06, 2023, 09:32:19 PM
The GAA transfer system was designed to allow lads move to clubs where they now live and work.
For 5 Lavey men who live in Lavey to use a Belfast address to transfer to a Belfast club so they can give 2 fingers up to their own club is just wrong in my book.
St.Brigids should not be facilitating the move but of course they'll struggle to see past filling their senior team with 5 county Derry players, and alienating 5+ of their own young players in the process.

It's wrong, it shouldnt be allowed and is bending the rules IMO. Many will disagree I'm sure.

As for those saying 'would you rather see them not play'?
Firstly they'll play with Derry regardless and secondly should this exit route not be available then the rift may have been easier to resolve and clear up.

Btw I'm not in agreement with what's going on, but none of us are in the real know of what's been going on in the background. The players were going to go to a club, not sure if the rules of not being affiliated to a club and playing for your county.


Peter Canavan was registered with Killyclogher Hurling Club at the start of his Tyrone career,due to similiar circumstances !

That rule I'm sure is still in place though not 100% sure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 06, 2023, 10:08:32 PM
Must be a bad row cause lavey were a serious clannish outfit. Never in a million years I would've thought this could happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 06, 2023, 11:49:23 PM
No one here should underestimate the egos of those involved here have.   Turned a minor tiff into a complete debacle.  Lavey will go on. St brigids won't be the last club these fellas will be at. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 07, 2023, 07:37:26 AM
Even though they are on county team, none are starters and when they come on, to me anyway, they don't stand out.

Typical modern day county player panellist. Handpassing side to side and passing it back.

Compare to Ethan Doherty etc. who has pace and great ball carrier plus runs at good angles.

I'm sure St. Brigid's have a load of typical modern day footballers so not sure what these lads will add.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on March 07, 2023, 08:43:08 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 07, 2023, 07:37:26 AM
Even though they are on county team, none are starters and when they come on, to me anyway, they don't stand out.

Typical modern day county player panellist. Handpassing side to side and passing it back.

Compare to Ethan Doherty etc. who has pace and great ball carrier plus runs at good angles.

I'm sure St. Brigid's have a load of typical modern day footballers so not sure what these lads will add.

Just to clear a few misconceptions here only 4 of them are on the county panel. Altho the other lad is a decent wee player too.

Ive seen all 5 of them play for Lavey and theres no doubt they are all good players (particularly Seamus's two youngest who are supposedly both injured at the minute). Lavey will miss them.

That Derry panel doesnt seem to have a lot of depth so im sure they will continue to get 5-10 minutes here and there but wouldnt be given the trust to try anything out of the ordinary yet. Just lateral handpassing as you say.

Im told that a real issue now is that Henry's oldest boy (and county player) is moving to St Brigids while his next one is staying put in Lavey. Totally understandable and happy to hear that the young lad wants to stay playing with his friends. But makes you wonder why the rest of the boys couldnt work through their issues and do the same. Im sure all parties could swallow their pride and they could resolved their differences
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2023, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 06, 2023, 11:49:23 PM
No one here should underestimate the egos of those involved here have.   Turned a minor tiff into a complete debacle.  Lavey will go on. St brigids won't be the last club these fellas will be at.

Every club, big or small has ego's, inflated opinions on themselves and what they bring to the club, that is up and down the country. The clubs will always be the focus for the majority. Lavey (from my own limited knowledge) are a well respected dual club and something like this won't define them, if this is a personal rift between players then its very sad to see it as it is.

But by the same token and not taking sides, players should not just give up playing because they can't/won't play for their home club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 07, 2023, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2023, 10:09:07 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 06, 2023, 11:49:23 PM
No one here should underestimate the egos of those involved here have.   Turned a minor tiff into a complete debacle.  Lavey will go on. St brigids won't be the last club these fellas will be at.

Every club, big or small has ego's, inflated opinions on themselves and what they bring to the club, that is up and down the country. The clubs will always be the focus for the majority. Lavey (from my own limited knowledge) are a well respected dual club and something like this won't define them, if this is a personal rift between players then its very sad to see it as it is.

But by the same token and not taking sides, players should not just give up playing because they can't/won't play for their home club

They'll be back to Lavey in a year or 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2023, 10:22:35 AM
Says a lot about the individuals involved in this that it has got to this point.

That a few of the more senior club members couldnt get around a table and thrash this out is very concerning for the whole club.

That being said one/ two families will never be bigger than an individual club in any shape or form. These lads dont realise how short a playing career is an yeah while they might still be playing it can't be anything other than hollow and empty for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 07, 2023, 10:41:53 AM
This is turning into the Lavey Dispute thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2023, 10:50:45 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2023, 10:41:53 AM
This is turning into the Lavey Dispute thread.

The Lavey dispute has spilled over into Antrim now, so probably apt for discussion. Hopefully it doesnt but has serious potential to backfire for St Brigids.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2023, 10:51:27 AM
I don't give a flying f**k about Lavey.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 07, 2023, 10:51:59 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2023, 10:41:53 AM
This is turning into the Lavey Dispute thread.

And im all here for it lolol.

Have heard my own bits and pieces on it but interesting to follow on here. Im wondering does some Henry boys play the hurling only which is why theyre happy to stay. Only surmising.

Messy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: harryR on March 07, 2023, 11:17:57 AM
No harm lads, but the Downey's would make any team stronger. If anyone's club had the opportunity to get two/three county quality players into their team and making them stronger they would take that opportunity all day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 07, 2023, 11:22:13 AM
Are they all dual? Im sure be a welcome boost to st brigids hurling team if they are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: harryR on March 07, 2023, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 07, 2023, 11:22:13 AM
Are they all dual? Im sure be a welcome boost to st brigids hurling team if they are

Na just footballers. Lavey wouldn't have as many dual players as previous years. Could be wrong but I thought they where basically made choose one or the other
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2023, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: harryR on March 07, 2023, 11:17:57 AM
No harm lads, but the Downey's would make any team stronger. If anyone's club had the opportunity to get two/three county quality players into their team and making them stronger they would take that opportunity all day

There is a reason they have ended up where they have, not sure if any other club/ team would have entertained them in this way. St Brigids used to taking on outsiders as they are an emerging club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on March 07, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
does anyone know if you win the intermediate championship this year do you go straight up to Division 1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2023, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on March 07, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
does anyone know if you win the intermediate championship this year do you go straight up to Division 1?

Straight up to Senior championship normally, have they changed that this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: harryR on March 07, 2023, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 07, 2023, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: harryR on March 07, 2023, 11:17:57 AM
No harm lads, but the Downey's would make any team stronger. If anyone's club had the opportunity to get two/three county quality players into their team and making them stronger they would take that opportunity all day

There is a reason they have ended up where they have, not sure if any other club/ team would have entertained them in this way. St Brigids used to taking on outsiders as they are an emerging club.

Aye their dads fell out with the club. Can't be blaming them for something like that. They must be in a terrible position, friends all playing for Lavey and then their dad/uncle falling out. Really lose lose for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 07, 2023, 05:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2023, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on March 07, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
does anyone know if you win the intermediate championship this year do you go straight up to Division 1?

Straight up to Senior championship normally, have they changed that this year

Nothing new.
You need to win Div 2 League to gain promotion. Winning IFC gains inclusion in SFC in the next season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 07, 2023, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 07, 2023, 05:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2023, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on March 07, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
does anyone know if you win the intermediate championship this year do you go straight up to Division 1?

Straight up to Senior championship normally, have they changed that this year

Nothing new.
You need to win Div 2 League to gain promotion. Winning IFC gains inclusion in SFC in the next season.

Winners of div 2 has a play of this year v the 2nd bottom div 1.

Bottom div 1 automatically down to leave a 12 team div 1 next year.

So I heard any way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on March 07, 2023, 07:48:31 PM
That all changed last Monday night at the County meeting.

Bottom 2 automatically go down and only 1 up.

Changed to suit a few clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 07, 2023, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on March 07, 2023, 07:48:31 PM
That all changed last Monday night at the County meeting.

Bottom 2 automatically go down and only 1 up.

Changed to suit a few clubs

Play off gone then ? Hard to keep up !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 07, 2023, 08:05:02 PM
Antrim in a "changing the rules to suit certain clubs" shocker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2023, 08:10:56 PM
Clubs will always suit themselves, this is a broken record to be fair!

I'm not totally against it though but you could lose a lot of league games because of county commitments and win 5 games in championship and go up!!

Will make the intermediate championship even more competitive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 08, 2023, 12:11:38 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on March 07, 2023, 07:48:31 PM
That all changed last Monday night at the County meeting.

Bottom 2 automatically go down and only 1 up.

Changed to suit a few clubs

The county board are a shambles literally making it up as they go along
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 08, 2023, 08:18:50 AM
I think they started with a "no promotion" stance in some leagues until a few clubs put forward some fairly simple, straightforward solutions  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on March 08, 2023, 11:45:49 AM
Clubs agreed at the workshop the Monday before that it would be 1 down and 2nd bottom will go into a playoff with top of the league below.

Couldn't be voted on as a workshop,  the following Monday a few clubs got together and presented different proposal. Then the carnage starred.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 08, 2023, 11:57:49 AM
Madness to either have no promotion or a playoff with second bottom. Not a lot of motivation for clubs going into league. 1 up 2 straight down is the only way IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 08, 2023, 03:46:12 PM
Clearly with all games starting at different times on sunday the clubs weren't in favour of 10am starts and why would they be its ludicrous, another huge L for the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on March 08, 2023, 07:18:18 PM
Regarding promotion and relegation,was coming home from the glens on Sunday and decided to take in the Glenravel v Ballymena game,45 mins I'm not going get back(couldn't watch it for the full hr),brutal stuff,and too think both teams are paying management teams to put that shit on display,there meant to be 2 off the teams aiming for promotion,they're at their level,i know both teama missing men but thats no excuse,Ballymena are playing the same type off shit they played last year with the dinosaur manager in place,JC should at least know better,so called modern manager
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 08, 2023, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: referee on March 08, 2023, 07:18:18 PM
Regarding promotion and relegation,was coming home from the glens on Sunday and decided to take in the Glenravel v Ballymena game,45 mins I'm not going get back(couldn't watch it for the full hr),brutal stuff,and too think both teams are paying management teams to put that shit on display,there meant to be 2 off the teams aiming for promotion,they're at their level,i know both teama missing men but thats no excuse,Ballymena are playing the same type off shit they played last year with the dinosaur manager in place,JC should at least know better,so called modern manager

Who isn't these days
Aghagallon had a 2 time all ireland winner on the line on Sunday and had 14 behind the ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
I'd say both clubs won't care what's said about it. They'll use the league to try these kinda systems out especially without the county men.

Maybe not the most appealing style of Football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 08:46:01 PM
Was it clubs with county players that asked for this format?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 08, 2023, 09:54:21 PM
who in charge of Gaelfast these days? long time since saw an update on progress but maybe i missed it.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 08, 2023, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 08:46:01 PM
Was it clubs with county players that asked for this format?

The two down/one up is for one year to rectify the odd no. of teams in div1. League structures will be reviewed / revamped in Sept 23.  Probably revert to one up/ down for 2024.

Two down / one up in 23 was proposed by a Div 2 team , with aspirations of promotion!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2023, 10:47:44 PM
Too many teams in div 1 and 2. Limit it to 10 and add a div 4. Championship reflects league, senior down to junior B, solve the fixture crisis by removing 6 games from league, could start late April then with the same finish point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: delgany on March 08, 2023, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 08:46:01 PM
Was it clubs with county players that asked for this format?

The two down/one up is for one year to rectify the odd no. of teams in div1. League structures will be reviewed / revamped in Sept 23.  Probably revert to one up/ down for 2024.

Two down / one up in 23 was proposed by a Div 2 team , with aspirations of promotion!

Restructuring will always generate annoyance, having been a player and manager when it worked against me in the past I understand that frustration, you can't please everyone. But always grand to have a villain to blame ;)

Hands up, I gave dogs abuse and the one that got me was mid season!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on March 08, 2023, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
I'd say both clubs won't care what's said about it. They'll use the league to try these kinda systems out especially without the county men.

Maybe not the most appealing style of Football.
I seem to remember All Saints trying to play the same way last year in the playoff,that worked well ...

I blame the ref and the linesman for that defeat. 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on March 08, 2023, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
I'd say both clubs won't care what's said about it. They'll use the league to try these kinda systems out especially without the county men.

Maybe not the most appealing style of Football.
I seem to remember All Saints trying to play the same way last year in the playoff,that worked well ...

I blame the ref and the linesman for that defeat. 👀

Defeat or style of play  ;D!! If the manager could have influenced his team from the sidelines he'd have done a better job  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on March 09, 2023, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on March 08, 2023, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
I'd say both clubs won't care what's said about it. They'll use the league to try these kinda systems out especially without the county men.

Maybe not the most appealing style of Football.
I seem to remember All Saints trying to play the same way last year in the playoff,that worked well ...

I blame the ref and the linesman for that defeat. 👀

Defeat or style of play  ;D!! If the manager could have influenced his team from the sidelines he'd have done a better job  ;)
Still loud on Sunday,I suppose he's a Big Name but a Big Mouth MR
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 09, 2023, 08:17:47 AM
Lot of thought and pre planning goes into presentation of fixtures....e.g. Cargin are set to host Galls Sunday at breakfast time whilst our under 17s are to set out for Belfast to meet up with Brigid's.....for a 12.00 throw in....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 09, 2023, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2023, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on March 08, 2023, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
I'd say both clubs won't care what's said about it. They'll use the league to try these kinda systems out especially without the county men.

Maybe not the most appealing style of Football.
I seem to remember All Saints trying to play the same way last year in the playoff,that worked well ...

I blame the ref and the linesman for that defeat. 👀

Defeat or style of play  ;D!! If the manager could have influenced his team from the sidelines he'd have done a better job  ;)

a greater lack of influence would suit ballymena better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 12, 2023, 11:35:17 AM
Normalise 10am throw ins!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 12, 2023, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 12, 2023, 11:35:17 AM
Normalise 10am throw ins!

Absolute pile of sh!te.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 12, 2023, 12:32:28 PM
I'll do 11am and that's my final offer. Some job getting done and dusted early.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 12, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
Cargin v St Galls stopped because of a bad injury. Hopefully the fella is OK
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 12, 2023, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 12, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
Cargin v St Galls stopped because of a bad injury. Hopefully the fella is OK
Wishing the young lad from St Galls well, horrible to see, could hear the crack. Never nice.
Not pretty football in early March, never mind at 10am in the morning, on a lighter note
how will the Downeys take to Antrim Div 2 football in 2024 that's the big question 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on March 12, 2023, 07:33:45 PM
 Wishing the young lad from St galls all the best with what sounds like a bad injury.
Any odds for championship yet? Hard not to be taken by pg1 start to the season. They will be hard to beat this year and are most likely favourites at this stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 12, 2023, 07:40:49 PM
Yes lump on them, put the mortgage on it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 12, 2023, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on March 12, 2023, 07:33:45 PM
Wishing the young lad from St galls all the best with what sounds like a bad injury.
Any odds for championship yet? Hard not to be taken by pg1 start to the season. They will be hard to beat this year and are most likely favourites at this stage

Saw the x-ray pic ......really bad....
Feel for the young lad.....scored a good goal....
Hope he soon returns to the Blue ......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 12, 2023, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 12, 2023, 07:40:49 PM
Yes lump on them, put the mortgage on it

Indeed the Bannsiders look the real deal.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2023, 09:20:41 PM
Serious double fracture, hopefully for him he comes through this without much long term problems.

Looks clean enough break so hope that makes it better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 12, 2023, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2023, 09:20:41 PM
Serious double fracture, hopefully for him he comes through this without much long term problems.

Looks clean enough break so hope that makes it better

Hope he makes a quick return .....looks a good'n..

Really bad luck for the young man..



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2023, 09:26:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 12, 2023, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2023, 09:20:41 PM
Serious double fracture, hopefully for him he comes through this without much long term problems.

Looks clean enough break so hope that makes it better

Hope he makes a quick return .....looks a good'n..

Really bad luck for the young man..

Have managed these young lads (him and his brothers)  from a very early and the work ethic and commitment is brilliant.

Cracking hurler too, so double blow for club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Time Hurler on March 12, 2023, 11:42:07 PM
I thought County men aren't allowed to play league? M Byrne seems to have played for Rossa today according to SG. Any other clubs play their county men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on March 12, 2023, 11:42:07 PM
I thought County men aren't allowed to play league? M Byrne seems to have played for Rossa today according to SG. Any other clubs play their county men

No outfield players were  allowed to play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 13, 2023, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on March 12, 2023, 11:42:07 PM
I thought County men aren't allowed to play league? M Byrne seems to have played for Rossa today according to SG. Any other clubs play their county men

No outfield players were  allowed to play

Paddy McBride played for the Jonnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 13, 2023, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on March 12, 2023, 11:42:07 PM
I thought County men aren't allowed to play league? M Byrne seems to have played for Rossa today according to SG. Any other clubs play their county men

Dowling
Sean og Oneill
Decky Lynch
Paddy McCormick
Mick Byrne
The Aldergrove Lads

Clearly the subs could play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 13, 2023, 09:04:48 AM
Which is only right in my book. County players returning from injury need to get game time and county panellists who could fall between getting limited or no county game time minutes and zero club activity either also have to get game minutes into them somewhere. Good to see a bit of common sense on the matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 13, 2023, 09:32:36 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 13, 2023, 09:04:48 AM
Which is only right in my book. County players returning from injury need to get game time and county panellists who could fall between getting limited or no county game time minutes and zero club activity either also have to get game minutes into them somewhere. Good to see a bit of common sense on the matter.
Whats the story with LD BS, that was a big score line against them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 13, 2023, 09:33:33 AM
Thoughts with the young Marcus Donnelly.  St Galls and the GAA community will rally around him and give him the support he will need over the difficult few months ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 13, 2023, 09:57:06 AM
LD travelled light, missing a good few, they had nothing up front and only managed a couple of scores. They definitely need most of their contingent available if they hope to pick up points against the top half dozen.

Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2023, 10:40:34 AM
But sure wasn't it a great idea starting league football in early march
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 13, 2023, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 13, 2023, 09:57:06 AM
LD travelled light, missing a good few, they had nothing up front and only managed a couple of scores. They definitely need most of their contingent available if they hope to pick up points against the top half dozen.


Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.

Very kind BS Lamh Dhearg were very very poor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2023, 10:40:34 AM
But sure wasn't it a great idea starting league football in early march

Intercounty football and hurling has been going on for years, Ulster winter league also been running, injuries are part and parcel of the games unfortunately and can happen in mid summer, club training generally starts in Jan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2023, 12:37:24 PM
Yes players up and down the country are training and playing 9-10 times a week between club, schools, colleges, inter county commitments because their county boards are also 'on the ball' in getting a long and full club calendar rolled out. Catch yourself on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2023, 12:38:47 PM
In fact we're so 'on the ball' we tr**p all over the top of ulster league fixtures. We are some County.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 13, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Was a nasty hit BS, can't believe the young chap did not even get a free kick for the challenge, never mind a card

Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 06:06:38 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 13, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Was a nasty hit BS, can't believe the young chap did not even get a free kick for the challenge, never mind a card

Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.
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Thoughts TYRDUB you couldn't have been better placed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2023, 07:23:01 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 06:06:38 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 13, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Was a nasty hit BS, can't believe the young chap did not even get a free kick for the challenge, never mind a card

Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.

Thoughts TYRDUB you couldn't have been better placed?
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Ah lads, I'm sure on reflection or if we seen a replay we'd have a different view, but it's a split second call at that point.

Hopefully there's good news for the lad same as Marcus..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2023, 07:42:43 AM
That's 2 broken jaws for our club seniors and sure it's only March. Hardly good news!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 14, 2023, 07:59:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2023, 07:23:01 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 06:06:38 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 13, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Was a nasty hit BS, can't believe the young chap did not even get a free kick for the challenge, never mind a card

Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.

Thoughts TYRDUB you couldn't have been better placed?

Ah lads, I'm sure on reflection or if we seen a replay we'd have a different view, but it's a split second call at that point.

Hopefully there's good news for the lad same as Marcus..
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Good news not likely soon when eating your food through a straw for 6 weeks, not the referees fault of course. Seen the tackle possibly looks worse slowed down but not a good one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2023, 08:29:12 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 14, 2023, 07:59:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2023, 07:23:01 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 06:06:38 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 13, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Was a nasty hit BS, can't believe the young chap did not even get a free kick for the challenge, never mind a card

Unfortunately young Donnelly wasn't the only player yesterday to need hospital treatment. Our rising full back Kevin O Kane needed an ambulance to take him to hospital where we are awaiting the results of an xray today to see if surgery is required.

Thoughts TYRDUB you couldn't have been better placed?

Ah lads, I'm sure on reflection or if we seen a replay we'd have a different view, but it's a split second call at that point.

Hopefully there's good news for the lad same as Marcus..
Good news not likely soon when eating your food through a straw for 6 weeks, not the referees fault of course. Seen the tackle possibly looks worse slowed down but not a good one.
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Didn't know it was broken, so that is bad news
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 09:12:54 AM
Its that fact that no action was taken! MR2 to your credit at least state your position given the opportunity, let's hear from TYRDUB he's normally not shy in posting and giving his comments?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2023, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 09:12:54 AM
Its that fact that no action was taken! MR2 to your credit at least state your position given the opportunity, let's hear from TYRDUB he's normally not shy in posting and giving his comments?

On reflection there are times I've probably missed called something, all ref's have, I've even admitted it too  :-[

But its players that create the fouls and for some reason the attention is with the ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2023, 11:52:42 AM
Tyrdub isn't accountable to Gaaboard. I'm sure if he's seen the video he may have a different opinion but where would we be without refs. Hanging them out to dry here isn't going to help recruitment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2023, 03:33:14 PM
Exactly BS. Why would he be accountable to a pseudonym on the internet? Not in any way fair and any ref only has one pair of eyes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on March 14, 2023, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2023, 11:52:42 AM
Tyrdub isn't accountable to Gaaboard. I'm sure if he's seen the video he may have a different opinion but where would we be without refs. Hanging them out to dry here isn't going to help recruitment.

Fair point Bannside, however as MR2 has been prepared to take the rough with the smooth and credit to him for that, why not TYRBUB seeing as he is fairly active on all other topics on the board? All one can do is ask, if he chooses to be selective then so be it, no drama here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 14, 2023, 05:01:18 PM
Sorry to hear about all these injuries.  General point on referees, they are on a hiding to nothing.  If a fella is sent off, then most clubs slip about looking for every trick in the book to get the suspension lifted. Totally undermining the referees authority. Plus most if not all of us have slabbered at refs in the heat of the moment.  Why would anyone sign up to be a ref when it's stacked against you.  So we end up with a very small talent pool. It's a vicious circle as things stand. That's notwithstanding some of our good refs, in it for the right reasons despite the odds and doing a good job. And we wouldn't have competitions only for them. This definitely isn't the place to pick over their decisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 14, 2023, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 14, 2023, 05:01:18 PM
Sorry to hear about all these injuries.  General point on referees, they are on a hiding to nothing.  If a fella is sent off, then most clubs slip about looking for every trick in the book to get the suspension lifted. Totally undermining the referees authority. Plus most if not all of us have slabbered at refs in the heat of the moment.  Why would anyone sign up to be a ref when it's stacked against you.  So we end up with a very small talent pool. It's a vicious circle as things stand. That's notwithstanding some of our good refs, in it for the right reasons despite the odds and doing a good job. And we wouldn't have competitions only for them. This definitely isn't the place to pick over their decisions.

+1
Referees are one of the most undervalued and yet most important groups in the GAA. We're lucky to have them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 07:18:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2023, 11:37:20 PM
Awk now, they're well paid.

Fuel through the roof, tyres not cheap either, probably missing out. But sure some people know better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 15, 2023, 07:35:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 07:18:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2023, 11:37:20 PM
Awk now, they're well paid.

Fuel through the roof, tyres not cheap either, probably missing out. But sure some people know better

I imagine that was tongue in cheek
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 08:16:16 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 15, 2023, 07:35:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 07:18:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2023, 11:37:20 PM
Awk now, they're well paid.

Fuel through the roof, tyres not cheap either, probably missing out. But sure some people know better

I imagine that was tongue in cheek

So was mine ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 15, 2023, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 08:16:16 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 15, 2023, 07:35:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 07:18:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2023, 11:37:20 PM
Awk now, they're well paid.

Fuel through the roof, tyres not cheap either, probably missing out. But sure some people know better

I imagine that was tongue in cheek

So was mine ;)

MR2 what way does it work, do reffs get a set fee for the match then mileage? Cheque monthly?

Fair play to ye's BTW, I honestly couldn't ever do it myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2023, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 08:16:16 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 15, 2023, 07:35:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 07:18:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2023, 11:37:20 PM
Awk now, they're well paid.

Fuel through the roof, tyres not cheap either, probably missing out. But sure some people know better

I imagine that was tongue in cheek

So was mine ;)

MR2 what way does it work, do reffs get a set fee for the match then mileage? Cheque monthly?

Fair play to ye's BTW, I honestly couldn't ever do it myself.

Expenses twice a year, ye ain't making money but you are certainly working for it..

The one thing I would say about refereeing, not everyone is cut out for it and that's fine, not sure what the uptake was this year, but wouldn't be many, as some only last a year or so before say "feck that for a game of darts"

4 games a week is around 15 miles or more running for me, keeping fit and being involved  in games after playing for so long fills a void
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 15, 2023, 10:15:20 AM
Interesting. Do you record the movement, that would make an interesting strava snapshot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 15, 2023, 10:19:54 AM
Fair play to you MR2. Despite the slagging and banter on here and elsewhere, I'm pretty sure 99.9% of people reflect and are grateful for the contribution you men make to the games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 10:28:15 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 15, 2023, 10:15:20 AM
Interesting. Do you record the movement, that would make an interesting strata snapshot

I do, I'm sure a lot of the 'better' referees do also. Hurling generally over 4 miles football used to be over that amount but recently due to the style of it thats dropped to around (for me) 3.7 in the main

Not surprisingly that minor games or under 16 games in football I cover more distance, tells ya ll ya need to know lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 15, 2023, 12:03:14 PM
The current system requires that every club must put forward a referee. Failure to do so results in significant punishments for the club. Undoubtedly this leads to some referees reluctantly taking up the role without actually wanting to do it which is never a good start.

Not quite sure what the incentives should be but there should definitely be more positive incentives to encourage people to proactively take up the role. More carrot, less stick.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 15, 2023, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 15, 2023, 12:03:14 PM
The current system requires that every club must put forward a referee. Failure to do so results in significant punishments for the club. Undoubtedly this leads to some referees reluctantly taking up the role without actually wanting to do it which is never a good start.

Not quite sure what the incentives should be but there should definitely be more positive incentives to encourage people to proactively take up the role. More carrot, less stick.

Yeah, there should be more 'positive discrimination' for referees to get more involved.

I suppose it's only taken from a small pool of people as any lads between 30 -50, for example maybe have kids and will volunteer for coaching their kids' age groups etc. I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2023, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 15, 2023, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 15, 2023, 12:03:14 PM
The current system requires that every club must put forward a referee. Failure to do so results in significant punishments for the club. Undoubtedly this leads to some referees reluctantly taking up the role without actually wanting to do it which is never a good start.

Not quite sure what the incentives should be but there should definitely be more positive incentives to encourage people to proactively take up the role. More carrot, less stick.

Yeah, there should be more 'positive discrimination' for referees to get more involved.

I suppose it's only taken from a small pool of people as any lads between 30 -50, for example maybe have kids and will volunteer for coaching their kids' age groups etc. I think.

I'd say if you looked at it, most of the refs are currently already in this bracket and doing the coaching and volunteering within their clubs along with the refereeing.

I would imagine especially down the age grades if clubs looked more closely at the behaviour of their mentors and some parents toward them this would be a start.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 16, 2023, 01:05:20 PM
Anybody giving us a chance of picking up points on Saturday against Cavan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on March 16, 2023, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 16, 2023, 01:05:20 PM
Anybody giving us a chance of picking up points on Saturday against Cavan?

Apparently a lot of lads out injured prob best to focus on the Longford game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2023, 03:33:18 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 16, 2023, 01:05:20 PM
Anybody giving us a chance of picking up points on Saturday against Cavan?

Yes definitely in with a chance of getting something from this one. The last day was an aberration, on the whole the matches have been close in this campaign. I think this will be as well, maybe another high scoring one as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 16, 2023, 05:07:39 PM
cavan ase good as promoted so hopefully dont come fully loaded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 05:10:13 PM
MR with the big one on Sunday 👀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2023, 07:56:55 PM
EMG had access to the best players in the county and Cavan toyed with us. There were lists going around at the start of the league showing up to a dozen players retired or unavailable....on top of that Ryan, Jordan , Dermot, are on injured list along with two or three others!

The team Andy sends out will have a real rookie look to it so if we are competitive against a Cavan team who are looking every inch a team still progressing and heading straight to Div 2 I'll be happily surprised.

Antrim are a work in progress, full of transition, and Longford away is definitely no gimme either. Time for cool heads and a bit of trust as well as patience. IMO...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2023, 08:04:28 PM
Agree with all of that Bannside except...the performance in championship against Cavan was pitiful in every respect, setup, tactics (or lack of), player management in advance, lack of ambition,....all of it was just lamentable. There is none of that air about the current setup.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 08:13:48 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2023, 08:04:28 PM
Agree with all of that Bannside except...the performance in championship against Cavan was pitiful in every respect, setup, tactics (or lack of), player management in advance, lack of ambition,....all of it was just lamentable. There is none of that air about the current setup.

Worst defence in all 4 divisions
-31 score difference
1 win in 7 in all competitions soon to 8


Explain to me how that isnt pitiful?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2023, 08:54:19 PM
Sure, those aren't good stats. Pitiful isn't an exaggeration. But we have been pitiful for years haven't we -
bouncing around the basement divisions.

Of those 8 games which ones were you expecting to win, as we were huge odds against in the vast majority of them. And what would you like to see done differently or that Andy hasn't thought of? Honest question...not looking to have a huge debate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 16, 2023, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2023, 08:04:28 PM
Agree with all of that Bannside except...the performance in championship against Cavan was pitiful in every respect, setup, tactics (or lack of), player management in advance, lack of ambition,....all of it was just lamentable. There is none of that air about the current setup.
This current team lost their previous game by 31 points, you must of been away on holiday for that one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 16, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Who would you have preferred realistically?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2023, 11:43:37 PM
Damien Cassidy or The McNultys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2023, 07:54:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 16, 2023, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2023, 08:04:28 PM
Agree with all of that Bannside except...the performance in championship against Cavan was pitiful in every respect, setup, tactics (or lack of), player management in advance, lack of ambition,....all of it was just lamentable. There is none of that air abo
ut the current setup.
This current team lost their previous game by 31 points, you must of been away on holiday for that one.

Strange when you have your own club players on the team attitudes change....
And when Andy is on first name terms and your club officer is on the side line, all is fine...
We are where we are, and to escape the basement so hard
earned a return to there would be a disaster....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2023, 08:38:59 AM
Lol lol lol....its because a club has a county officer on the line!!  Surely you can do better than that. You're just waiting now, rubbing your hands and hoping Cavan put 20 points on us, so you can come on and spout about how wonderful Enda was. Do you even support the county at this stage??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2023, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 17, 2023, 08:38:59 AM
Lol lol lol....its because a club has a county officer on the line!!  Surely you can do better than that. You're just waiting now, rubbing your hands and hoping Cavan put 20 points on us, so you can come on and spout about how wonderful Enda was. Do you even support the county at this stage??

Typical return from you.....and why in earth would I want to see Antrim beaten......
Mc Ginley, and his assistants remain gentlemen and all three have all Ireland medals in their pockets.....
Sin e.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 10:50:44 AM
Lovely bunch today  :D

Enjoy the day off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 17, 2023, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 10:50:44 AM
Lovely bunch today  :D

Enjoy the day off

And are you on the way to Toome for the fair......MR2.....

No whistle needed.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 17, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Who would you have preferred realistically?

Oisin Mcconville
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2023, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 17, 2023, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 10:50:44 AM
Lovely bunch today  :D

Enjoy the day off

And are you on the way to Toome for the fair......MR2.....

No whistle needed.....

Bit early, it's not to Easter Monday
Hib day today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 17, 2023, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 17, 2023, 07:54:07 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 16, 2023, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2023, 08:04:28 PM
Agree with all of that Bannside except...the performance in championship against Cavan was pitiful in every respect, setup, tactics (or lack of), player management in advance, lack of ambition,....all of it was just lamentable. There is none of that air abo
ut the current setup.
This current team lost their previous game by 31 points, you must of been away on holiday for that one.

Strange when you have your own club players on the team attitudes change....
And when Andy is on first name terms and your club officer is on the side line, all is fine...
We are where we are, and to escape the basement so hard
earned a return to there would be a disaster....

Attitudes change? I think we all were very frustrated after last year's Cavan match, and said so here, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 17, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Who would you have preferred realistically?

Oisin Mcconville

Why not Malachy O'Rourke?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 17, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 17, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Who would you have preferred realistically?

Oisin Mcconville

Why not Malachy O'Rourke?

Not a big fan of the baldies 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 17, 2023, 06:11:37 PM
Why so few cargin men in team these days ? Strange
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 17, 2023, 11:00:36 PM
Colm McLarnon and jack starting together at centre field , never saw that coming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 17, 2023, 11:18:58 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 17, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Who would you have preferred realistically?

Oisin Mcconville

At least McConville talks sense on his podcast. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 18, 2023, 01:52:06 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 17, 2023, 11:18:58 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 17, 2023, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 16, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Do you genuinely think this manager cares a hoot if we get beat/ get relegated? It was a baffling appointment that's been a disaster
Who would you have preferred realistically?

Oisin Mcconville

At least McConville talks sense on his podcast. 😉
He's achieved diddly squat as an inter county manager. He may turn out to be great or may not.  I don't think there's anything that puts him a cut above ( or below) Andy McEntee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 18, 2023, 11:28:18 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 17, 2023, 06:11:37 PM
Why so few cargin men in team these days ? Strange
We've 2 good men in the subs, I am hoping its a bit of kidology and they are both starting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on March 18, 2023, 12:08:04 PM
I've just noticed we have 3 good men in the subs ;)
One might make his debut for the County seniors before he does for his club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 12:09:40 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 18, 2023, 12:08:04 PM
I've just noticed we have 3 good men in the subs ;)
One might make his debut for the County seniors before he does for his club!

Noticed that...by all accounts he'll be a regular
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2023, 02:22:56 PM
Couldn't make today but already a damn sight better than the last day. It'd be a big shock if we beat Cavan but long way to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 02:26:55 PM
Cavan still in the changing rooms
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:01:28 PM
Some boys will be really quiet if Antrim win this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 18, 2023, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:01:28 PM
Some boys will be really quiet if Antrim win this
Now, be 'realistic'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:09:36 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 18, 2023, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:01:28 PM
Some boys will be really quiet if Antrim win this
Now, be 'realistic'.

If only SV were on here to complain  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:26:00 PM
Cavan have woken up!! Boys will be on soon  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 18, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
Antrim should be looking at promotion if they could see out games ffs. Brilliant win. Still can't get my head around big Ruairi McCann not being good enough for Edna McGinley's team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on March 18, 2023, 03:40:21 PM
Good win. Probably a bit of pressure on there at the end when you consider how so many recent games have gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 18, 2023, 03:43:27 PM
A good day. Well done to everyone involved.  Threw a couple of games away this year as we all know.  Very satisfying to push on in that one and get big scores when the pressure was on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
Lot of injuries leading into this end of season and those that played and came on (again McBride) finished the game out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 18, 2023, 03:46:59 PM
Brilliant gutsy display against all the odds. Makes the Westmeath result all the stranger, can at least put that to bed now. With a bit of pressure off Andy can start to build the squad he wants and have rattle at Tailtean Cup and have settled panel for next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 18, 2023, 04:08:06 PM
What a difference a couple of weeks make. Heart in mouth stuff there again at the end, but brilliant to be on the right side of it at last! U20's beat Cavan comfortably earlier this morning too. Well done to all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 18, 2023, 04:44:28 PM
Great win. I did think we would be in with a shout today. A Down win tonight and we're safe. And all in our own hands regardless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 05:10:41 PM
Would the real Antrim stand up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 18, 2023, 07:34:58 PM
Cavan seemed to think only a matter of turning up and got caught, impressive fight shown from Antrim Ruairi McCann Aghagallon a real handful in first half, thought we'd thrown it away with C Stewart's late mistake but Deccy Lynch with an impressive run at the end to seal the free for victory. Good win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 18, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
Come on Down. 9 a piece atm, approaching HT. Not safe yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 18, 2023, 08:46:02 PM
Full Time in Newry. Down beat Longford so Antrim are officially safe in Div 3 with a game left.  Sincere congratulations to management and players on excellent achievement. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 18, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
Andy McEntee has done a great job!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 18, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
Andy McEntee has done a great job!

Your mates won't be happy though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 18, 2023, 11:49:58 PM
Deccy Lynch battle with gearing Mckiernan worth the price if admission
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 19, 2023, 06:54:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 18, 2023, 08:46:02 PM
Full Time in Newry. Down beat Longford so Antrim are officially safe in Div 3 with a game left.  Sincere congratulations to management and players on excellent achievement.
Great to avoid the basement but was it really that much of an achievement when you look at the bottom 2 teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 19, 2023, 07:19:33 AM
Biggest fear of teams, except in Div. 4 for obvious reasons, is to get relegated.

This is where the pressure comes from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2023, 07:44:24 AM
Make no mistake this is a huge achievement on a lot of levels. To go ten points up against a Cavan team chasing promotion, that toyed with us last year at the same venue, is mind blowingly impressive.

To do it without some of the stars of the season so far (Peter Healy, Oisin Leneghan, Big Pat, midfielders Conor and Kevin, Ryan, Dermot and Adam - plus medium term injuries Paddy Mc Aleer and Jamie Gribben - elevates the level of impressiveness even more.

To remain secure with a panel that was depleted of its spine right up the middle before a ball was kicked - Oisin, Ricky, James. MIck, Conor, Tomas , Paddy C etc - and as a result much of its on pitch leadership - is truly amazing.

Such was level of transition I feared we would drop a division to allow the rebuild time to settle, and to do so without having to deal with the fall out of the negativity that would surround that is a massive plus.

A lot of the players headed out in Belfast last night, city and country lads together. and somewhere in Dunboyne I hope Andy was sipping a good red, content in the knowledge he has achieved his main target for the season and the rest of it is in his hands ...and the debacle of Mullingar is whitewashed from the psyche.

Maybe we can all get fully behind this now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2023, 08:11:45 AM
Standard response from one, waiting on the others to weigh in with theirs also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 19, 2023, 08:31:19 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 19, 2023, 06:54:10 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 18, 2023, 08:46:02 PM
Full Time in Newry. Down beat Longford so Antrim are officially safe in Div 3 with a game left.  Sincere congratulations to management and players on excellent achievement.
Great to avoid the basement but was it really that much of an achievement when you look at the bottom 2 teams

Nope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2023, 08:56:36 AM
Missed the game yesterday was down south in support of the boys in green.

A big win to avoid the basement.

See BS is on a high....fair play.
But, wonder as his club is up there potential champions why they only have one individual on 'senior county duty'.......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 19, 2023, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 18, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
Andy McEntee has done a great job!

Your mates won't be happy though

I don't have mates 😢
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 09:25:04 AM
The state of this thread.

Great win yesterday. We could end up on 6 points which would be decent plus we could and should have won more games.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2023, 10:05:37 AM
Forget about club representation CB, or who may or may not add to the current mix and let what Andy is building continue to evolve and improve. When that happens everyone good enough or fit enough will want to be on board. When the current injury list frees itself up there will be sufficient competition for starting jersey and places on match day panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 19, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
Going into enemy territory today to see the table toppers against Creggan.should be a good game.a very youthful Cargin team beaten this morning in a hard hitting contest LD good few of their bigger names on today and it told in the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 19, 2023, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 19, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
Going into enemy territory today to see the table toppers against Creggan.should be a good game.a very youthful Cargin team beaten this morning in a hard hitting contest LD good few of their bigger names on today and it told in the end.

Be there as well....Match of the day....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 19, 2023, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 19, 2023, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 19, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
Going into enemy territory today to see the table toppers against Creggan.should be a good game.a very youthful Cargin team beaten this morning in a hard hitting contest LD good few of their bigger names on today and it told in the end.

Be there as well....Match of the day....








Big statement from the wee Bannsiders today I feel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on March 19, 2023, 10:27:28 PM
Big statement surely. Another red for big Niall.  Be hard to defend that tackle though. On a rugby field you would probably be citied and get 6 games to go with it. Aidan MC aleese quality player for Pg1. Were Pg1 missing many men banside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 19, 2023, 11:10:23 PM
Totally disagree Bigball. BIg Niall at 6 ft 6 always going to look a bit clumsy against  someone a foot smaller. No malice whatsoever in the tackle. More often sinned against than sinned. What a player by the way, must have caught 8 balls against the head. Is there a better midfielder in. Antrim football atm ????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 123Bigball on March 19, 2023, 11:36:28 PM
Leading with the elbow to opponents head it looked like. Very lucky to not cause a serious injury. Ref must have seen the malice to issue the straight red. Some fielder of the ball all the same and chipped in with couple of points. Pg1 flying atm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 20, 2023, 06:46:01 AM
Dejavu with both things, the McKeever red card and Portglenone setting a blistering pace in the league while everyone else missing 10 players 😆
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 20, 2023, 07:08:13 AM
Portglenone look a different beast than the last number of seasons. It looks like they now have that killer instinct they had been lacking in crunch games. It will take a good team to stop them the year.

The only slight concern I would have is discipline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2023, 08:18:50 AM
Quote from: stiffler on March 20, 2023, 07:08:13 AM
Portglenone look a different beast than the last number of seasons. It looks like they now have that killer instinct they had been lacking in crunch games. It will take a good team to stop them the year.

The only slight concern I would have is discipline.

Casement's did look excellent but discipline  looks a problem....
Ref had a game, sympathetic in conditions and got the reds spot on .... second one reaction to the first...
Casement's look super fit ...ahead of the pack....with a full squad who must have worked hard over the winter...

Marty Johnston looked the best on view....

Casement's are 'stand outs' atm, but this is March.....a long road to travel......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 20, 2023, 08:40:03 AM
Quote from: stiffler on March 20, 2023, 07:08:13 AM
Portglenone look a different beast than the last number of seasons. It looks like they now have that killer instinct they had been lacking in crunch games. It will take a good team to stop them the year.

The only slight concern I would have is discipline.

Far too early in season to be making statements like this. PG1 always come out of the traps early, too early.

How they do this year will depend on how they go in the last 10 mins of tight knock-out championship games.

That'll be the real test. Have they got over this barrier?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 20, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
Who do Casements play in the Ulster club anyway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 20, 2023, 08:53:57 AM
Worth a tenner on PG1 and Mayo the year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 20, 2023, 09:41:12 AM
Creggan missing a few too many at the min but take nothing away from PG1 they look impressive and they  are a very well balanced side. Cargin getting beat was surprising considering the amount of men lamh dearg have missing. Moneyglass had another good win. St.Brigids look to be in bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 20, 2023, 09:55:18 AM
Quote from: 123Bigball on March 19, 2023, 10:27:28 PM
Big statement surely. Another red for big Niall.  Be hard to defend that tackle though. On a rugby field you would probably be citied and get 6 games to go with it. Aidan MC aleese quality player for Pg1. Were Pg1 missing many men banside

Feel I should defend the player on this occasion. As a neutral at the game McKeevers tackle certainly was not the worst tackle of the game, with McKeever himself on the receiving end of a few bad ones. Creggan were obviously told to up the physicality at HT which led to a championship feel in the second half with both teams playing on the edge.

On another note, wishing a speedy recovery to Conor Small who appears to have another problem with his knee. No luck at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 20, 2023, 09:59:32 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 20, 2023, 09:41:12 AM
Creggan missing a few too many at the min but take nothing away from PG1 they look impressive and they  are a very well balanced side. Cargin getting beat was surprising considering the amount of men lamh dearg have missing. Moneyglass had another good win. St.Brigids look to be in bother.

Am sure Cargin are really annoyed at losing up at Hannahstown......in search of another league title and with a full squad involved they should have beaten the Lamhs....

Disaster.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 20, 2023, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 20, 2023, 09:41:12 AM
Creggan missing a few too many at the min but take nothing away from PG1 they look impressive and they  are a very well balanced side. Cargin getting beat was surprising considering the amount of men lamh dearg have missing. Moneyglass had another good win. St.Brigids look to be in bother.



Take a look at both sides and tell me who was missing most Declan Lynch played full game even though he played for county on Saturday they celebrated like they'd won a championship game but not many won in march with depleted teams.everyone knows the Lamhs can't beat Cargin when it really matters 😎
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 20, 2023, 10:35:46 AM
Steady on, I wasn't having a go at Cargin, in fact I was more surprised their quality even in reserve didn't get them the win over LD. Didn't think lynch would have played but that's obviously a big boost for them. And yes I'm pretty sure Cargin aren't losing sleep about losing early round league games. Creggan will be the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2023, 12:04:42 PM
John McKeever won't miss too much sleep either if Casements lose a league game or two either. His focus is solely on building a panel and squad rotation. Late start back at it this year (despite what others believe) and for the record our team yesterday was minus 7 players that started on our last championship game.

Nobody getting too excited about what happens in March!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 21, 2023, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 20, 2023, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 20, 2023, 09:41:12 AM
Creggan missing a few too many at the min but take nothing away from PG1 they look impressive and they  are a very well balanced side. Cargin getting beat was surprising considering the amount of men lamh dearg have missing. Moneyglass had another good win. St.Brigids look to be in bother.



Take a look at both sides and tell me who was missing most Declan Lynch played full game even though he played for county on Saturday they celebrated like they'd won a championship game but not many won in march with depleted teams.everyone knows the Lamhs can't beat Cargin when it really matters 😎
Cargin had 9 lads MIA on Sunday all on county u20 squad......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 21, 2023, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 21, 2023, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 20, 2023, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 20, 2023, 09:41:12 AM
Creggan missing a few too many at the min but take nothing away from PG1 they look impressive and they  are a very well balanced side. Cargin getting beat was surprising considering the amount of men lamh dearg have missing. Moneyglass had another good win. St.Brigids look to be in bother.



Take a look at both sides and tell me who was missing most Declan Lynch played full game even though he played for county on Saturday they celebrated like they'd won a championship game but not many won in march with depleted teams.everyone knows the Lamhs can't beat Cargin when it really matters 😎
Cargin had 9 lads MIA on Sunday all on county u20 squad......






In my count also Mick McCann Tomas McCann Justin crozier KOBO Jinny McShane Big Pat Jamie Gribbin Conhuir Johnston Kieran close ,plenty to come back yet 😊😎
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:10:32 AM
A good start to the Div.1 leagues with fairly tight games and unpredictable results.
PG1 started well as they do every year, will they run out of road again though. Creggan and Cargin stuttering with players to come back. Ahoghil and Moneyglass going well and should stay up based on early evidence so far. Hearing good things from Aghagallon with young players coming in and stepping up. LD havent been great but were late out training I hear so will improve and I think they'll be dark horses come championship. St.Brigids seem to be in a mess after 3 hammerings, what's going on there?, maybe should focus on their young lads instead of transfers from Lavey?. Rossa, Galls and Jonnies have been indifferent so far but will improve, I think you'll see St.Galls make strides this year and will surprise a lot of people, again they have nurtured some good young players who should start to come through.

Div.2 has the usual suspects starting well. Ballymena and Glenravel will be hard to stop this year. I'd have expected Ardoyne and St.Pauls to have started better. St.Pauls should get stronger in the next 2 or 3 years with great underage work. I think Gorts will be hard to stop also in Div.2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:17:15 AM
Congrats to Antrim on Saturday on a great win over Cavan. Cavan had nothing to play for but still a good result and from what I saw a fairly decent performance. Despite a few horrible losses it feels like Antrim are on the right track.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:10:32 AM
A good start to the Div.1 leagues with fairly tight games and unpredictable results.
PG1 started well as they do every year, will they run out of road again though. Creggan and Cargin stuttering with players to come back. Ahoghil and Moneyglass going well and should stay up based on early evidence so far. Hearing good things from Aghagallon with young players coming in and stepping up. LD havent been great but were late out training I hear so will improve and I think they'll be dark horses come championship. St.Brigids seem to be in a mess after 3 hammerings, what's going on there?, maybe should focus on their young lads instead of transfers from Lavey?. Rossa, Galls and Jonnies have been indifferent so far but will improve, I think you'll see St.Galls make strides this year and will surprise a lot of people, again they have nurtured some good young players who should start to come through.

Div.2 has the usual suspects starting well. Ballymena and Glenravel will be hard to stop this year. I'd have expected Ardoyne and St.Pauls to have started better. St.Pauls should get stronger in the next 2 or 3 years with great underage work. I think Gorts will be hard to stop also in Div.2.

And going by the Saffron Gael report, Glenravel missing 4/5 from the county final team of last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 21, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:10:32 AM
A good start to the Div.1 leagues with fairly tight games and unpredictable results.
PG1 started well as they do every year, will they run out of road again though. Creggan and Cargin stuttering with players to come back. Ahoghil and Moneyglass going well and should stay up based on early evidence so far. Hearing good things from Aghagallon with young players coming in and stepping up. LD havent been great but were late out training I hear so will improve and I think they'll be dark horses come championship. St.Brigids seem to be in a mess after 3 hammerings, what's going on there?, maybe should focus on their young lads instead of transfers from Lavey?. Rossa, Galls and Jonnies have been indifferent so far but will improve, I think you'll see St.Galls make strides this year and will surprise a lot of people, again they have nurtured some good young players who should start to come through.

Div.2 has the usual suspects starting well. Ballymena and Glenravel will be hard to stop this year. I'd have expected Ardoyne and St.Pauls to have started better. St.Pauls should get stronger in the next 2 or 3 years with great underage work. I think Gorts will be hard to stop also in Div.2.

And going by the Saffron Gael report, Glenravel missing 4/5 from the county final team of last year.

Yes indeed. They are another club who are nurturing young talent. Great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 21, 2023, 11:40:29 AM
Id have glenravel favs to go up at the minute. With gorts 2nd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2023, 03:55:12 PM
Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us. In fairness to Cargin that's quite a MIA list. Not many clubs could withstand that amount of players unavailable. No doubt you'll have every one back when you play us lol.

Don't know about other clubs but we are badly hit this year with weddings and stag weekends. One fella has 13 lined up he can't get out of!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 21, 2023, 07:18:54 PM
Top dogs until they hit that mental block against the Moira men 😎😎
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2023, 07:37:29 PM
Prefer to roll myself with the old adage that whatever dosent kill you makes you stronger. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2023, 08:09:50 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 21, 2023, 07:18:54 PM
Top dogs until they hit that mental block against the Moira men 😎😎

Didn't know Moira had a team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on March 22, 2023, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

ahaha PG1 will win nahin sir untill michael kelly and john lewis are back, both should have been on the county set up a few years back... once theyre playing the glory days are going back to PG1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2023, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.

I'd have St Galls well ahead of St Endas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 22, 2023, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 22, 2023, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.

I'd have St Galls well ahead of St Endas.




St galls at 5 they are going to be a side to be fearful of Come championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2023, 01:58:33 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 22, 2023, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 22, 2023, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.

I'd have St Galls well ahead of St Endas.




St galls at 5 they are going to be a side to be fearful of Come championship

Maybe a year or 2 early for them but they seem to be improving
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 22, 2023, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.

It's Creggan and Cargin way out in front. Maybe PG1 3rd and then a whole load of clubs around the same level that potentially beat any of the teams on a given day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 22, 2023, 04:51:55 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 22, 2023, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 22, 2023, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.

I'd have St Galls well ahead of St Endas.




St galls at 5 they are going to be a side to be fearful of Come championship

Jeez, was chatting with K D there a while back and he is saying Cargin are really in pursuit of the league  title as a priority....ground to make up I think....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on March 22, 2023, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 21, 2023, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: ck on March 21, 2023, 11:10:32 AM
A good start to the Div.1 leagues with fairly tight games and unpredictable results.
PG1 started well as they do every year, will they run out of road again though. Creggan and Cargin stuttering with players to come back. Ahoghil and Moneyglass going well and should stay up based on early evidence so far. Hearing good things from Aghagallon with young players coming in and stepping up. LD havent been great but were late out training I hear so will improve and I think they'll be dark horses come championship. St.Brigids seem to be in a mess after 3 hammerings, what's going on there?, maybe should focus on their young lads instead of transfers from Lavey?. Rossa, Galls and Jonnies have been indifferent so far but will improve, I think you'll see St.Galls make strides this year and will surprise a lot of people, again they have nurtured some good young players who should start to come through.

Div.2 has the usual suspects starting well. Ballymena and Glenravel will be hard to stop this year. I'd have expected Ardoyne and St.Pauls to have started better. St.Pauls should get stronger in the next 2 or 3 years with great underage work. I think Gorts will be hard to stop also in Div.2.

And going by the Saffron Gael report, Glenravel missing 4/5 from the county final team of last year.

Yes indeed. They are another club who are nurturing young talent. Great to see.

Reading Martin McCarry still involved, great servant
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 22, 2023, 06:16:37 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 22, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 21, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Was wondering how the heck LD could beat Cargin on their showing against us.

There is a new order in Antrim Club football, PG1 are top dogs

Antrim football is in an interesting place at the moment. What would you consider the current pecking order? For me come championship it would be:
1.   Cargin
2.   Creggan
3.   Aghagallon
4.   Portglenone
5.   St Endas
6.   Lamh Dhearg
7.   St Johns
8.   St Brigids
9.   St Galls
10.   Ahoghill
11.   Moneyglass
12.   Tir Na Nog

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Cargin and Creggan are still very much the teams to beat.

Rossa?
St Endas 5th lol as the saying goes opinions are like arseholes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on March 22, 2023, 10:41:30 PM
1. Cargin
2. Creggan
3. Aghagallon
4. PG1
5. LD
6. St johns
7. St galls
8. Rossa
9. St brigids
10. Ahoghill
11. St endas
12. TNN
13. Moneyglass

St Endas the most overrated team in the county. They are spineless in the big games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on March 23, 2023, 09:10:39 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on March 21, 2023, 07:18:54 PM
Top dogs until they hit that mental block against the Moira men 😎😎

I didn't know Moira players played in Antrim, Aghagallon I take it? A big blow to  St Michael's Magheralin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
When is it time to talk about the standard of refereeing in this county?
It is far below any in Ulster, is it any wonder we don't have a referee at the top senior county level.
Sean Laverty gets the odd sideline or fourth official job, but never the main man.

There should be an independent advisor board to review the performances of our refs.
This pushing of young refs into big matches is a waste of time as they are not ready for it. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
When is it time to talk about the standard of refereeing in this county?
It is far below any in Ulster, is it any wonder we don't have a referee at the top senior county level.
Sean Laverty gets the odd sideline or fourth official job, but never the main man.

There should be an independent advisor board to review the performances of our refs.
This pushing of young refs into big matches is a waste of time as they are not ready for it.

I take it you have bought your whistle and are stepping forward to help with this dire situation....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 10:53:23 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
When is it time to talk about the standard of refereeing in this county?
It is far below any in Ulster, is it any wonder we don't have a referee at the top senior county level.
Sean Laverty gets the odd sideline or fourth official job, but never the main man.

There should be an independent advisor board to review the performances of our refs.
This pushing of young refs into big matches is a waste of time as they are not ready for it.

I take it you have bought your whistle and are stepping forward to help with this dire situation....

Or hes right and this response is petty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 11:02:15 AM
Without naming names what performances this year have got your goat?

Also young referees are coming through and have left Ulster etc due to being blocked within Antrim by being told they are not good enough for anything above Div 3, young Eastwood went to Aus and gave up on teh reffing over her due to this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 11:11:43 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
When is it time to talk about the standard of refereeing in this county?
It is far below any in Ulster, is it any wonder we don't have a referee at the top senior county level.
Sean Laverty gets the odd sideline or fourth official job, but never the main man.

There should be an independent advisor board to review the performances of our refs.
This pushing of young refs into big matches is a waste of time as they are not ready for it.

I take it you have bought your whistle and are stepping forward to help with this dire situation....



Im far too old now to grab the whistle.

But hear me out, becoming a referee in todays game is huge ask, many people shy away due to the abuse they get.
Maybe a board to improve overall performance would quieten down the abuse from the side-lines and make it a much more appealing job to take on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 10:53:23 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
When is it time to talk about the standard of refereeing in this county?
It is far below any in Ulster, is it any wonder we don't have a referee at the top senior county level.
Sean Laverty gets the odd sideline or fourth official job, but never the main man.

There should be an independent advisor board to review the performances of our refs.
This pushing of young refs into big matches is a waste of time as they are not ready for it.

I take it you have bought your whistle and are stepping forward to help with this dire situation....

Or hes right and this response is petty

Or maybe it is very easy to sit on sidelines and gurn about things as opposed to doing something about it.

Refereeing is a thankless job and fair play to anyone who steps forward and does it.

Maybe they need help rather than finger pointing.

Not saying they should go unchecked and agree with the point about having an advisory board but that last comment was unfair.

How can young referees improve without support and experience?

It is the same in any aspect of life, younger people are going to be less experienced but they need support and guidance to improve not just people saying that they are all useless.

If people have an issue, they don't need to necessarily get out and referee but they could offer assistance in many other ways if they want things to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 10:53:23 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
When is it time to talk about the standard of refereeing in this county?
It is far below any in Ulster, is it any wonder we don't have a referee at the top senior county level.
Sean Laverty gets the odd sideline or fourth official job, but never the main man.

There should be an independent advisor board to review the performances of our refs.
This pushing of young refs into big matches is a waste of time as they are not ready for it.

I take it you have bought your whistle and are stepping forward to help with this dire situation....

Or hes right and this response is petty

Or maybe it is very easy to sit on sidelines and gurn about things as opposed to doing something about it.

Refereeing is a thankless job and fair play to anyone who steps forward and does it.

Maybe they need help rather than finger pointing.

Not saying they should go unchecked and agree with the point about having an advisory board but that last comment was unfair.

How can young referees improve without support and experience?

It is the same in any aspect of life, younger people are going to be less experienced but they need support and guidance to improve not just people saying that they are all useless.

If people have an issue, they don't need to necessarily get out and referee but they could offer assistance in many other ways if they want things to improve.

Exactly what I'm saying a board to review and advise, no pointing fingers.

Yes exactly but throwing them into the deep end e.g. the senior championship final is not the right way to gain experience.
As a neutral watching that final the young man in the middle was out of his depth, let him gain experience and put them in when they are ready. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 11:02:15 AM
Without naming names what performances this year have got your goat?

Also young referees are coming through and have left Ulster etc due to being blocked within Antrim by being told they are not good enough for anything above Div 3, young Eastwood went to Aus and gave up on teh reffing over her due to this

Unfortunately like anything there is a click who always get the big games within our county even though they aren't better than the younger refs which would obvs make them give it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 11:48:23 AM
You're in bother when MR2 reads this  :-[

Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 11:02:15 AM
Without naming names what performances this year have got your goat?

Also young referees are coming through and have left Ulster etc due to being blocked within Antrim by being told they are not good enough for anything above Div 3, young Eastwood went to Aus and gave up on teh reffing over her due to this

Unfortunately like anything there is a click who always get the big games within our county even though they aren't better than the younger refs which would obvs make them give it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 11:48:23 AM
You're in bother when MR2 reads this  :-[

Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 11:02:15 AM
Without naming names what performances this year have got your goat?

Also young referees are coming through and have left Ulster etc due to being blocked within Antrim by being told they are not good enough for anything above Div 3, young Eastwood went to Aus and gave up on teh reffing over her due to this

Unfortunately like anything there is a click who always get the big games within our county even though they aren't better than the younger refs which would obvs make them give it up.

Am I right or wrong? Maybe they want to go constantly with the safe pair of hands but as Barnish says how will we ever know if the younger refs are good enough if they told they arent good enough?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 23, 2023, 12:58:44 PM
Agree would be good to see some of the younger refs encouraged and pushed on to the forefront. Seems the same faces the last 5-6 years refereeing the bigger games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 01:09:19 PM
which young refs are we talking about? brilliant idea and should be encouraged

There are assessors that go to games and review them from a ref's point of view btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 23, 2023, 01:13:11 PM
Got roped into refereeing an u16 girls friendly match last year. Never again. The yapping from the sideline would do your head in.  Longest hour of my life.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 01:34:09 PM
I was speaking to our club ref and he told me he has never received a report from an assessor in Antrim, so what is the point of an assessor if they are not giving constructive feedback? When is the last time you got feedback MR2 (apart from all the sparkling reviews on here  ;))?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 01:09:19 PM
which young refs are we talking about? brilliant idea and should be encouraged

There are assessors that go to games and review them from a ref's point of view btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 01:34:09 PM
I was speaking to our club ref and he told me he has never received a report from an assessor in Antrim, so what is the point of an assessor if they are not giving constructive feedback? When is the last time you got feedback MR2 (apart from all the sparkling reviews on here  ;))?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 01:09:19 PM
which young refs are we talking about? brilliant idea and should be encouraged

There are assessors that go to games and review them from a ref's point of view btw

By reading what everyone is saying MR2 is a ref i better watch my mouth... :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 23, 2023, 02:05:01 PM
How many times do you go to a county or club game that's being televised, shout about how useless the referee was.....only to go home and watch the game back on the Sunday Game or Sky +, and be like....."eh.....actually". I know I do! It cant be an easy job and I respect anyone who takes it up.

Out of interest, have you experienced every other County's club scene and their match officials in action, or are you just extrapolating?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 02:09:58 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 23, 2023, 02:05:01 PM
How many times do you go to a county or club game that's being televised, shout about how useless the referee was.....only to go home and watch the game back on the Sunday Game or Sky +, and be like....."eh.....actually". I know I do! It cant be an easy job and I respect anyone who takes it up.

Out of interest, have you experienced every other County's club scene and their match officials in action, or are you just extrapolating?

Could count in one hand the amount of Derry and Tyrone championship games I missed on one hand this year, i also attended alot of the Armagh Championship.
Hand on heart our own is the best, but the standard of Refeering is much higher elsewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 23, 2023, 02:43:36 PM
Anyone any idea when championship draws are to be made?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 23, 2023, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 23, 2023, 01:13:11 PM
Got roped into refereeing an u16 girls friendly match last year. Never again. The yapping from the sideline would do your head in.  Longest hour of my life.

Been there many times over the last few years and I know that feeling well unfortunately.

Genuinely don't know how anyone voluntarily offers up their free time to referee any match and has to listen to the grief.

Only answer at the underage games is to offer them the whistle to come on and do it themselves, or point them in the direction of the silent sideline sign and tell them *politely to adhere to its message.....

For a senior game, my patience would be gone within minutes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2023, 01:34:09 PM
I was speaking to our club ref and he told me he has never received a report from an assessor in Antrim, so what is the point of an assessor if they are not giving constructive feedback? When is the last time you got feedback MR2 (apart from all the sparkling reviews on here  ;))?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 01:09:19 PM
which young refs are we talking about? brilliant idea and should be encouraged

There are assessors that go to games and review them from a ref's point of view btw

To be fair recently or last year or so I haven't, but I do know people that have. Generally the new ones are 'visited' and given a verbal assessment of written one

This is a perfect opportunity though to mention that for those that are not looking to be a referee but feel the standards aren't good they could then put themselves forward as assessors?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 23, 2023, 03:33:17 PM
Curious to how Andywill approach the Longford game. Will he go with the strongest team available or give some of his squad meaningful game time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 03:41:04 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 23, 2023, 03:33:17 PM
Curious to how Andywill approach the Longford game. Will he go with the strongest team available or give some of his squad meaningful game time?

Have we a full team to select from?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 23, 2023, 03:33:17 PM
Curious to how Andywill approach the Longford game. Will he go with the strongest team available or give some of his squad meaningful game time?

Will if I've been a sub all year with hardly any game time and I don't start in this nothing game I'm walking off the panel.. maybe that's just me though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.

What you see and what the referee sees are completely different, the interpretation of the rules by the referee is down to him/her with the whistle, there is no referee the same, that goes for every sport that has a referee looking after it. The players play within the rules and there will be no interruptions.

If me and you sat down and did the rules test how well would you fare?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.

What you see and what the referee sees are completely different, the interpretation of the rules by the referee is down to him/her with the whistle, there is no referee the same, that goes for every sport that has a referee looking after it. The players play within the rules and there will be no interruptions.

If me and you sat down and did the rules test how well would you fare?

I assume you are a ref and see how you lean towards supporting refs.
But doesn't mean they are always right.

For example I remember the Antrim GAA twitter posting a video of a spectacular hit in the SFC SF two years and somehow the ref saw it as free kick.

Yes I see where your coming from, but certainly doesn't mean they always get it right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.

What you see and what the referee sees are completely different, the interpretation of the rules by the referee is down to him/her with the whistle, there is no referee the same, that goes for every sport that has a referee looking after it. The players play within the rules and there will be no interruptions.

If me and you sat down and did the rules test how well would you fare?

I assume you are a ref and see how you lean towards supporting refs.
But doesn't mean they are always right.

For example I remember the Antrim GAA twitter posting a video of a spectacular hit in the SFC SF two years and somehow the ref saw it as free kick.

Yes I see where your coming from, but certainly doesn't mean they always get it right.

You're trying too hard but making yourself look like a twat ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM



Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.

What you see and what the referee sees are completely different, the interpretation of the rules by the referee is down to him/her with the whistle, there is no referee the same, that goes for every sport that has a referee looking after it. The players play within the rules and there will be no interruptions.

If me and you sat down and did the rules test how well would you fare?

Probably as well as any referee and what an extremely arrogant response just because you are the man in the middle doesnt mean you know more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM



Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.

What you see and what the referee sees are completely different, the interpretation of the rules by the referee is down to him/her with the whistle, there is no referee the same, that goes for every sport that has a referee looking after it. The players play within the rules and there will be no interruptions.

If me and you sat down and did the rules test how well would you fare?

Probably as well as any referee and what an extremely arrogant response just because you are the man in the middle doesnt mean you know more

You said I'd know more then say it doesn't mean I know more? Which is it? Strange person
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 24, 2023, 08:25:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 23, 2023, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2023, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 23, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
Just on referees I think fans get frustrated with the inconsistencies, every referee is different and interrupts the game differently. You could go watch your club on a Sunday afternoon and Wednesday night and the game is completely different because of the man in the middle. Some referee's like free flowing games with big hits and let it go and some don't like any contact at all and are whistle happy.

What you see and what the referee sees are completely different, the interpretation of the rules by the referee is down to him/her with the whistle, there is no referee the same, that goes for every sport that has a referee looking after it. The players play within the rules and there will be no interruptions.

If me and you sat down and did the rules test how well would you fare?

I assume you are a ref and see how you lean towards supporting refs.
But doesn't mean they are always right.

For example I remember the Antrim GAA twitter posting a video of a spectacular hit in the SFC SF two years and somehow the ref saw it as free kick.

Yes I see where your coming from, but certainly doesn't mean they always get it right.

You're trying too hard but making yourself look like a twat ;D

wow I must have hit a soft spot  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
Anyone ever know a popular referee?
No   That's your answer hard job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2023, 08:32:31 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
Anyone ever know a popular referee?
No   That's your answer hard job

When you played, you never had a favourite ref? I'd plenty ref's football/ hurling that were good guys and very well respected.

Probably young ones now feel they can use the ref as an excuse for their own performances. Kids are strange nowadays
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2023, 08:36:31 PM
When I played mcclory was popular enough . Don't hear anyone speaking of popular refs these days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2023, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on March 24, 2023, 08:36:31 PM
When I played mcclory was popular enough . Don't hear anyone speaking of popular refs these days

So you did have a popular ref?

I'm managed senior and there was plenty ref's that I'd prefer and there are some I like when watching my club. But you've got to worry about your teams performance first before using ref's as a scapegoat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
I think it would be better if refs were ALLOWED to ref the games themselves. Every game I'm at now, juvenile or adult,  everyone wants to ref it. Players  coaches, fans, it's relentless
Toooooo long, after about 2 steps seems to be the popular one
Tell me this, can a ref tell a player to shut the f**k up move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
I think it would be better if refs were ALLOWED to ref the games themselves. Every game I'm at now, juvenile or adult,  everyone wants to ref it. Players  coaches, fans, it's relentless
Toooooo long, after about 2 steps seems to be the popular one
Tell me this, can a ref tell a player to shut the f**k up move on

Yes, but then he's being disrespectful. Every tackle is not a foul is what I usually say, hand on the back is also not a foul (a push is)  ;). Not tackling the ball is a foul too, so the slaps open or closed (closed fist is a card if not connecting with ball)


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 26, 2023, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2023, 03:01:28 PM
Some boys will be really quiet if Antrim win this

Some boys really quiet today 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 26, 2023, 04:19:32 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 05:10:41 PM
Would the real Antrim stand up?

They did today down at Longford
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 26, 2023, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 18, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
Andy McEntee has done a great job!



Phahahahahahhahahaha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 26, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
We stayed up which is an obvious positive, but all things considered a poor league campaign came to an end today and how anyone can argue any different I don't know.
Enviously looking at Fermanagh and Louths recent progress, maybe our turn next season? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 26, 2023, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 26, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
We stayed up which is an obvious positive, but all things considered a poor league campaign came to an end today and how anyone can argue any different I don't know.
Enviously looking at Fermanagh and Louths recent progress, maybe our turn next season?

Poor league campaign by Antrim.

Any different from last year's league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 27, 2023, 09:06:54 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 26, 2023, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 26, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
We stayed up which is an obvious positive, but all things considered a poor league campaign came to an end today and how anyone can argue any different I don't know.
Enviously looking at Fermanagh and Louths recent progress, maybe our turn next season?

Poor league campaign by Antrim.

Any different from last year's league?

I think last years league campaign was much more consistent, it is very hard to know where Antrim are this year. It has been the good, the bad and the ugly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 27, 2023, 09:38:07 AM
I think it's been a better league that last year considering the manager had a lot less of the top players in the county to pick from. One really bad game but Antrim have been very competitive for the most part.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 27, 2023, 09:40:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
I think it would be better if refs were ALLOWED to ref the games themselves. Every game I'm at now, juvenile or adult,  everyone wants to ref it. Players  coaches, fans, it's relentless
Toooooo long, after about 2 steps seems to be the popular one
Tell me this, can a ref tell a player to shut the f**k up move on

Yes, but then he's being disrespectful. Every tackle is not a foul is what I usually say, hand on the back is also not a foul (a push is)  ;). Not tackling the ball is a foul too, so the slaps open or closed (closed fist is a card if not connecting with ball)

A genuine question, like teams watch back and review their performance, would you ever request the footage and review yourself or know nay other refs that would?

Do you ever leave a game thinking you got a decision wrong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2023, 10:25:31 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 27, 2023, 09:40:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 25, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
I think it would be better if refs were ALLOWED to ref the games themselves. Every game I'm at now, juvenile or adult,  everyone wants to ref it. Players  coaches, fans, it's relentless
Toooooo long, after about 2 steps seems to be the popular one
Tell me this, can a ref tell a player to shut the f**k up move on

Yes, but then he's being disrespectful. Every tackle is not a foul is what I usually say, hand on the back is also not a foul (a push is)  ;). Not tackling the ball is a foul too, so the slaps open or closed (closed fist is a card if not connecting with ball)

A genuine question, like teams watch back and review their performance, would you ever request the footage and review yourself or know nay other refs that would?

Do you ever leave a game thinking you got a decision wrong?

All the time, would always question my 'game' could I have done better? could I have been better placed? The game, be it hurling or football is fast paced, I'd like to think I'm fitter than most but reality is I'm 51, no spring chicken so you can't always be on top of play the whole game, I'd cover generally over 4 miles a game.

As for review games I've watched plenty of games that have been recorded, the main problem is the camera is placed where it is and I'm not at that angle and don't have slow mo to help make the right call, the calls are immediate and that is how refereeing is done, championship you can be mic'd up and get help from other officials but on a wet Wed night in March you are on your own, and like it or lump it we have to make the calls as wee see it at that moment.

We don't have hoards of new applicants every year and using more and more ref's from other counties so its becoming a crisis at the minute, I don't know if its the same in every county but we do have in football and hurling 6 or 7 intercounty referee's, which is a sizeable amount
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2023, 10:31:34 AM
The league threw up a real mixed bag to be fair.  From terrific in Thurles to muck in Mullingar, and everything in between. Hard to believe we were circa 9 points up against the three top teams Cavan Fermanagh and Down. To do that we are doing something very well. The downside of that is we lost two of those games by the narrowest of margins.

Andy was badly hit by unavailability and injuries, in light if that I disagree with you EOC and suggest it was a fair/good league campaign. I'd be more confident about collecting 6 or 8 points next year when a more settled squad emerges from the transition.

Not too worried about the championship against Armagh, we won't win Ulster, just go out and have a good lash before knuckling down for a decent run in the Tailteean.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 27, 2023, 03:23:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 27, 2023, 10:31:34 AM
The league threw up a real mixed bag to be fair.  From terrific in Thurles to muck in Mullingar, and everything in between. Hard to believe we were circa 9 points up against the three top teams Cavan Fermanagh and Down. To do that we are doing something very well. The downside of that is we lost two of those games by the narrowest of margins.

Andy was badly hit by unavailability and injuries, in light if that I disagree with you EOC and suggest it was a fair/good league campaign. I'd be more confident about collecting 6 or 8 points next year when a more settled squad emerges from the transition.

Not too worried about the championship against Armagh, we won't win Ulster, just go out and have a good lash before knuckling down for a decent run in the Tailteean.

Delusional but I'd expect nothing less from FD
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2023, 03:45:06 PM
Christ, you must be some craic in the bar!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 27, 2023, 04:03:37 PM
I fail to see any delusion in his assessment. Either you are just on here for the constant wind up and pop or you genuinely believe there is a crisis. If it's the latter then at least make some points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 27, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
I think that's a totally reasonable assessment from BS. Certainly couldn't justify it being "delusional".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
There are a few here seem to be really against Andy McEntee. What's the deal here? If you are what were your expectations this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 27, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
Look, at the risk of an " if your aunty had balls...." backlash, it's like this....

Westmeath was a complete freak performance and result. Surely even the most negative posters on here can see that now upon reflection. Our scoring return was decent, our defence, putting aside the Westmeath match, wasn't the worst. We should have beaten Down, Offaly and a quite impressive Fermanagh team that went on to top the division. And we did beat the best team in the division in Cavan. Ok, it wasn't make or break for them, but to put that performance in and get that result considering how low they all must have been after the mauling in Mullingar was impressive.

If you cant see any of that then you're beyond help here.

It was never going to be a year for making a big impression was it? Survival and a good showing into a few rounds of the Tailteann cup would have been taken by most would it not?

Being somewhat competitive against Armagh would be a bonus.

Lets just see how things go shall we.  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2023, 07:10:15 PM
Indeed Natso, Offaly was another that got away. We were 8 down at HT and created three gilt edged goalscoring chances after that, but none found the net. Though some good football was played.

The highlight was taking on Down toe to toe in Pairc Esler. Saturday night under lights and we were superb at times. If nothing else we earned some respect from hardened Down supporters who knew they dodged a bullet that night with the way we went at them. That, and we really should have put more on Tipperary, we were excellent that night too, although Tipp football not in a good place atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 27, 2023, 09:05:49 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 27, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
Look, at the risk of an " if your aunty had balls...." backlash, it's like this....

Westmeath was a complete freak performance and result. Surely even the most negative posters on here can see that now upon reflection. Our scoring return was decent, our defence, putting aside the Westmeath match, wasn't the worst. We should have beaten Down, Offaly and a quite impressive Fermanagh team that went on to top the division. And we did beat the best team in the division in Cavan. Ok, it wasn't make or break for them, but to put that performance in and get that result considering how low they all must have been after the mauling in Mullingar was impressive.

If you cant see any of that then you're beyond help here.

It was never going to be a year for making a big impression was it? Survival and a good showing into a few rounds of the Tailteann cup would have been taken by most would it not?

Being somewhat competitive against Armagh would be a bonus.

Lets just see how things go shall we.  ::)

That's far too sensible of a post for this board.

Depends what agenda you are pushing and how much self promotion on certain platforms you want as to how you view Andy McEntee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 27, 2023, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 27, 2023, 07:10:15 PM
Indeed Natso, Offaly was another that got away. We were 8 down at HT and created three gilt edged goalscoring chances after that, but none found the net. Though some good football was played.

The highlight was taking on Down toe to toe in Pairc Esler. Saturday night under lights and we were superb at times. If nothing else we earned some respect from hardened Down supporters who knew they dodged a bullet that night with the way we went at them. That, and we really should have put more on Tipperary, we were excellent that night too, although Tipp football not in a good place atm.

It was Down, a team that will again be in Div 3 next year. This wasn't Down of 1991
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 09:49:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 27, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
There are a few here seem to be really against Andy McEntee. What's the deal here? If you are what were your expectations this year?
I like McEntee being our manager and expect more progress next season, just pointed out imo it was a poor enough league campaign when you look at the final table. We avoided relegation (not by much). I was at the Offaly and Cavan games but at none of the rest. Its all opinions and that's mine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 28, 2023, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 09:49:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 27, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
There are a few here seem to be really against Andy McEntee. What's the deal here? If you are what were your expectations this year?
I like McEntee being our manager and expect more progress next season, just pointed out imo it was a poor enough league campaign when you look at the final table. We avoided relegation (not by much). I was at the Offaly and Cavan games but at none of the rest. Its all opinions and that's mine.

I thought staying in the divison at the start of the year was a main goal. Did people really expect Antrim to do any better than they did? A lot of inexperienced players are playing this year too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 28, 2023, 09:56:12 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 28, 2023, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 09:49:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 27, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
There are a few here seem to be really against Andy McEntee. What's the deal here? If you are what were your expectations this year?
I like McEntee being our manager and expect more progress next season, just pointed out imo it was a poor enough league campaign when you look at the final table. We avoided relegation (not by much). I was at the Offaly and Cavan games but at none of the rest. Its all opinions and that's mine.

I thought staying in the divison at the start of the year was a main goal. Did people really expect Antrim to do any better than they did? A lot of inexperienced players are playing this year too.

It's Div 3, I don't think it would take a big pile to get out of it. Fermanagh got promoted, would anyone say they are light years ahead of us ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 28, 2023, 10:00:12 AM
Are we going to be saying the goal is to stay in Div 3 next year too? And the year after that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2023, 10:01:07 AM
On that day no but they beat westmeath and look what they did to us  :o

I don't think it's unfair to think the league campaign was just ok - it's just there did seem to be some opinions which were vehemently against him which did seem a bit harsh...

The Tailteann cup will be the big test. With the armagh game who knows what is success there. If we win it certainly would be success obviously but that is a massive ask as there is a big difference between the two teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 10:40:54 AM
With Fermanagh and Cavan going up are they not in the Tailteann Cup now ? We would appear to have as good a chance as any in that competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 28, 2023, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 10:40:54 AM
With Fermanagh and Cavan going up are they not in the Tailteann Cup now ? We would appear to have as good a chance as any in that competition.

Was wondering that too EOC. Think Clare and Limerick having been regelated are now in Tailteann cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 28, 2023, 10:50:35 AM
The Tailltean Cup is our grade along with 15 other counties, and we would definitely like to be competitive in it. At the minute that's a bigger priority than throwing the whole barrel at Armagh. Andy now has time to freshen up the squad, get injured players back on the pitch and hopefully finish the year strongly. Imo...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 28, 2023, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 10:40:54 AM
With Fermanagh and Cavan going up are they not in the Tailteann Cup now ? We would appear to have as good a chance as any in that competition.

Was wondering that too EOC. Think Clare and Limerick having been regelated are now in Tailteann cup
Westmeath are in Sam Maguire also as last years Tailteann winners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 28, 2023, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 10:40:54 AM
With Fermanagh and Cavan going up are they not in the Tailteann Cup now ? We would appear to have as good a chance as any in that competition.

I didn't think promotion from Div 3 could get you into All Ireland series, you would have to get to provincial final

16 teams in all Ireland series, Westmeath already there after winning Tailteean last year. 8 provincial finalists, the other 7 from league positions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 28, 2023, 11:34:58 AM
The league campaign was just ok, There are ifs, buts and maybes in every league campaign, some positives and some negatives but the biggest positive was that we stayed up. 
It has to be said the bar has been significantly lowered for Andy. Div 3 survival only and now some appear to be satisfied with a Tailteann Cup run, already binning the Championship when it should be the other way around.  The Tailteann is like the Europa League and no one cares about it until you are in the final. I will go out on a limb and suggest a high number of those clamouring for Tailteann Cup priority have long time empty trophy cabinets in their clubs. 

Andy has been round a few corners and will only have eyes on the ulster championship.  if he didn't I would be seriously worried.   He has done enough this year to suggest he can build on this and with a full panel have a go at promotion next year.

but lets not be lowering his bar completely to a credible run in the Tailteann Cup.  Andy is here to make progress in the Championship, and being the competitive man he is I am sure that is his objective.   A run in the Tailteann will add a nice gloss and Antrim will try their best to make headway in it but it is a secondary issue.  Andy's focus is on championship where it should be, not second tier.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 28, 2023, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 28, 2023, 11:34:58 AM
The league campaign was just ok, There are ifs, buts and maybes in every league campaign, some positives and some negatives but the biggest positive was that we stayed up. 
It has to be said the bar has been significantly lowered for Andy. Div 3 survival only and now some appear to be satisfied with a Tailteann Cup run, already binning the Championship when it should be the other way around.  The Tailteann is like the Europa League and no one cares about it until you are in the final. I will go out on a limb and suggest a high number of those clamouring for Tailteann Cup priority have long time empty trophy cabinets in their clubs. 

Andy has been round a few corners and will only have eyes on the ulster championship.  if he didn't I would be seriously worried.   He has done enough this year to suggest he can build on this and with a full panel have a go at promotion next year.

but lets not be lowering his bar completely to a credible run in the Tailteann Cup.  Andy is here to make progress in the Championship, and being the competitive man he is I am sure that is his objective.   A run in the Tailteann will add a nice gloss and Antrim will try their best to make headway in it but it is a secondary issue.  Andy's focus is on championship where it should be, not second tier.

Can't argue with any of that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2023, 11:57:08 AM
A good bit of that I don't disagree with however... if we don't beat Armagh do you have him down as a failure?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 28, 2023, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2023, 11:57:08 AM
A good bit of that I don't disagree with however... if we don't beat Armagh do you have him down as a failure?

No, he wont be a failure if we don't beat Armagh.  All we can expect or hope for from any manager is progress. In some ways playing a Div 2 team in the Championship is in our favour as it is doubtful Armagh will be treating the Antrim game as do or die and there lies our opportunity. The pressure is off Andy somewhat as Antrim will be massive underdogs.  Drawing Fermanagh in the championship would have came with more expectations.   

A hungry Armagh would be a much larger obstacle. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on March 28, 2023, 01:20:13 PM
Cavan and Fermanagh are likely to still be in the Tailteann Cup. Only 16 go into the Sam Maguire and that includes Westmeath and one of Sligo, Leitrim, London or New York. Unless Cavan or Fermanagh reach the Ulster final they'll be Tailteann Cup. If another div 3 or 4 team make a provincial final, I think Meath might drop in too.

I didn't see any of the football matches but read this thread regularly. Pre league, the attitude was staying up would be an achievement the way things were going. Now those same people are saying just staying up was a bad campaign. It's tough enough for a county like Antrim without our own ripping into the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 28, 2023, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 28, 2023, 11:34:58 AM
The league campaign was just ok, There are ifs, buts and maybes in every league campaign, some positives and some negatives but the biggest positive was that we stayed up. 
It has to be said the bar has been significantly lowered for Andy. Div 3 survival only and now some appear to be satisfied with a Tailteann Cup run, already binning the Championship when it should be the other way around.  The Tailteann is like the Europa League and no one cares about it until you are in the final. I will go out on a limb and suggest a high number of those clamouring for Tailteann Cup priority have long time empty trophy cabinets in their clubs. 

Andy has been round a few corners and will only have eyes on the ulster championship.  if he didn't I would be seriously worried.   He has done enough this year to suggest he can build on this and with a full panel have a go at promotion next year.

but lets not be lowering his bar completely to a credible run in the Tailteann Cup.  Andy is here to make progress in the Championship, and being the competitive man he is I am sure that is his objective.   A run in the Tailteann will add a nice gloss and Antrim will try their best to make headway in it but it is a secondary issue.  Andy's focus is on championship where it should be, not second tier.

I see where you are coming from however, you got to be realistic. Look at the wider picture.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 28, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 28, 2023, 01:20:13 PM
Cavan and Fermanagh are likely to still be in the Tailteann Cup. Only 16 go into the Sam Maguire and that includes Westmeath and one of Sligo, Leitrim, London or New York. Unless Cavan or Fermanagh reach the Ulster final they'll be Tailteann Cup. If another div 3 or 4 team make a provincial final, I think Meath might drop in too.

I didn't see any of the football matches but read this thread regularly. Pre league, the attitude was staying up would be an achievement the way things were going. Now those same people are saying just staying up was a bad campaign. It's tough enough for a county like Antrim without our own ripping into the team.
You could still stay up, be happy about it but also realise it was a 'bad campaign' as you put it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 28, 2023, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 28, 2023, 01:22:11 PM

I see where you are coming from however, you got to be realistic. Look at the wider picture.

I am realistic and have panoramic views  :)        Ulster Championship is forever the baseline.   By all means make the most of the Tailteann once we are there but lets not be embracing it and looking forward already being in it.    We should be dragged into it, almost embarrassed playing in it and using it as motivation to do our utmost to get back out of it.    Andy's not here for the Tailteann Cup. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2023, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 28, 2023, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 28, 2023, 11:34:58 AM
The league campaign was just ok, There are ifs, buts and maybes in every league campaign, some positives and some negatives but the biggest positive was that we stayed up. 
It has to be said the bar has been significantly lowered for Andy. Div 3 survival only and now some appear to be satisfied with a Tailteann Cup run, already binning the Championship when it should be the other way around.  The Tailteann is like the Europa League and no one cares about it until you are in the final. I will go out on a limb and suggest a high number of those clamouring for Tailteann Cup priority have long time empty trophy cabinets in their clubs. 

Andy has been round a few corners and will only have eyes on the ulster championship.  if he didn't I would be seriously worried.   He has done enough this year to suggest he can build on this and with a full panel have a go at promotion next year.

but lets not be lowering his bar completely to a credible run in the Tailteann Cup.  Andy is here to make progress in the Championship, and being the competitive man he is I am sure that is his objective.   A run in the Tailteann will add a nice gloss and Antrim will try their best to make headway in it but it is a secondary issue.  Andy's focus is on championship where it should be, not second tier.

Can’t argue with any of that

Wise words indeed....akin to failure in the championship and turning attention to the 'O' Cahan Cup.....

'Freshen the squad''? Is that a call up to personnel who did not agree to league duty.....?

Retention of third grade status is the prize gained and an sure full attention will now be totally focused on championship and the 'Orange men'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2023, 10:17:38 AM
Disagree Spike tbh, but sure it's only individual opinions. Andys opinion is the one that matters, and yes he will want to put on a good show against Armagh.

But - its a long time since we judged any manager on the championship, we all know Antrims priority is being competitive / successful in our own grade. Now that the GAA has put additional emphasis on the Tailteean Cup its a competition we should be embracing.

We want to be competitive against Armagh- but personally I would love to win the Tailltean,  I think that would give us a much bigger boost than you think and set us up really well for a proper crack at Div 3 next year.

To translate that thinking to club football and equate it to bring mentally weak it should be pointed out that before any club has aspirations of winning a senior championship it needs to navigate its way through junior , intermediate and the lower leagues to earn the right to dine in that company. We all know that's not where we are atm, so why not prioritise the competition of the grade we are at?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 29, 2023, 10:48:40 AM
BS, fully entitled to your viewpoint and i get your thinking,  I just would differ from it. A Tailteann win can only be good for us, no negatives at all but I think its Plan B rather than Plan A.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 29, 2023, 11:35:43 AM
Everyone has their own view and that but the long and the short of it is we aren't going to win the Ulster Championship.

But my question is when and will ever our championship aspirations be winning the Ulster championship.
I believe a major factor in our county under performing begins at the schools, there should be much more done to promote football in schools.
With the whole Antrim schools cup that is definitely a start, but a county the size of Antrim to not have a school constantly in the Macrory cup is a disgrace.

You can see the repercussions of this at club level as well clubs like Cargin, Creggan and Aghagllon thieving because their young players are playing schools football at the highest level, as they tend to send their players to St Mary's Magherafelt St Pats Maghera and St Ronans Lurgan who all have been prominent figures in the Ulster Colleges senior level now for a few years.

I believe if we have high profile GAA people poaching players for a certain schools, not only would the young persons' club see them improve and their club but this could help Antrim at the inter county stage as well.

If you want further examples: Pat Shivers, Sean O'neill from Cargin played Macorry football for Maghera Young Johsntone from Cargin was outstanding in winning a Macrory for St Marys Adam Loughran Luke Mulholland Played huge parts in winning not just a macrory but a Hogan aswell. All these players currently on the panel for Antrim
Look at Derry i wouldnt be surprised if everyone of their starters played Macrory football with a number of medals in there and even a few Hogan medals aswell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2023, 12:05:27 PM
We all would live that but to get to McRory level is a reward for grade A standard consistency  from year 8 and upwards, and usually with a few grade B trophies in the cabinet. Our schools are a fair bit off that atm, but no harm in targeting these first and build some momentum.

Best of luck to our U 20 players and management who are in championship action tonight in Ballybofey. Seen this team a couple of times this year and wouldn't be surprised if we can get a result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 29, 2023, 12:23:56 PM
Has any county a plan - by that I mean a 5/10 year plan or is it a case of make it up as they go?

The top level stuff is a business but I don't see it.

At inter-county level, it just seems short-sighted. A new manager in...for a year or two. Then he gets the boot and another comes in etc. etc. No planning at all, just doodling along feom year to year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
What would the playing population (football wise) in Antrim be? Chat on another thread was that you need over 9,000 players to reach senior finals either Ulster or All Ireland level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
What would the playing population (football wise) in Antrim be? Chat on another thread was that you need over 9,000 players to reach senior finals either Ulster or All Ireland level

Monaghan defeats this point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

They don't hurl to a top level either so they have a concentrated footballing league which never has to worry about distractions..

Like I said, I'm just asking the question as it was brought up on another thread, wouldn't be privy to the actual playing numbers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

Just googled there

Monaghan have 5,000 men between ages 20 and 34 playing football it seems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on March 29, 2023, 01:31:48 PM
Is there a link for the u20 match tn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2023, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 29, 2023, 12:23:56 PM
Has any county a plan - by that I mean a 5/10 year plan or is it a case of make it up as they go?

The top level stuff is a business but I don't see it.

At inter-county level, it just seems short-sighted. A new manager in...for a year or two. Then he gets the boot and another comes in etc. etc. No planning at all, just doodling along feom year to year.

The lesser counties - very much ourselves included - fall into this category. Our games are that advanced that you need about 2-3 years to get players to the right level of fitness and conditioning for county. We change manages, and squads, regularly so there is no continuity and then players never get to the required pace.

You see now that Gleeson being in a few years has got us some continuity but the football has been a disaster for changing. We need to stick with someone and if not stick with a core set of players at least.

I imagine following on twitter would be the best you would get antrimman but not sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 29, 2023, 01:40:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

Just googled there

Monaghan have 5,000 men between ages 20 and 34 playing football it seems

Big Factor for Antrim is the majority of our players are city based, Monaghan and in fact many other Ulster teams don't have the city factor.
There's just a lot more distractions in a city compared to a town or village much easier for the city players to play other sports etc, in many villages and towns they only have football or hurling.

A prime example of how this hurts Antrim is Matty Fitz, don't begrudge him or anything fair play to the fella i'm just using him as an exmaple of how a city player can be tempted elsewhere   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 29, 2023, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on March 29, 2023, 01:31:48 PM
Is there a link for the u20 match tn

It's live I see on Ulster Gaa tv
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 29, 2023, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

Just googled there

Monaghan have 5,000 men between ages 20 and 34 playing football it seems

That figure is about 1800 Male Players (both codes) between 20 and 38 in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
What would the playing population (football wise) in Antrim be? Chat on another thread was that you need over 9,000 players to reach senior finals either Ulster or All Ireland level

Really? Haven't seen the other thread, but that doesn't make sense. The equivalent of 90 clubs with 100 adult players each. Doubt if many counties have that.

The Monaghan figure mentioned above suggests roughly 50 clubs, with 100 adult players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 29, 2023, 02:32:29 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on March 29, 2023, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

Just googled there

Monaghan have 5,000 men between ages 20 and 34 playing football it seems

That figure is about 1800 Male Players (both codes) between 20 and 38 in Antrim

What is your sources for that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 29, 2023, 02:46:48 PM
Are you still in that age bracket Champ, lol....must be a photo finish!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
What would the playing population (football wise) in Antrim be? Chat on another thread was that you need over 9,000 players to reach senior finals either Ulster or All Ireland level

Really? Haven't seen the other thread, but that doesn't make sense. The equivalent of 90 clubs with 100 adult players each. Doubt if many counties have that.

The Monaghan figure mentioned above suggests roughly 50 clubs, with 100 adult players.

Hurling Registered Playing Population

Cork (25,600)
Tipperary (14,260)
Dublin (13,980)
Galway (12,520)
Kilkenny (10,080)
Limerick (9,980)

if You want to win an All Ireland, Chances are you will need over 9k registered Players

131 Hurling Clubs in the Whole of Ulster v 210 in Cork alone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on March 29, 2023, 03:57:55 PM
The Downeys are listed as Lavey players for tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 29, 2023, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on March 29, 2023, 03:57:55 PM
The Downeys are listed as Lavey players for tonight

No Official transfer through as of yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
What would the playing population (football wise) in Antrim be? Chat on another thread was that you need over 9,000 players to reach senior finals either Ulster or All Ireland level

Really? Haven't seen the other thread, but that doesn't make sense. The equivalent of 90 clubs with 100 adult players each. Doubt if many counties have that.

The Monaghan figure mentioned above suggests roughly 50 clubs, with 100 adult players.

Hurling Registered Playing Population

Cork (25,600)
Tipperary (14,260)
Dublin (13,980)
Galway (12,520)
Kilkenny (10,080)
Limerick (9,980)

if You want to win an All Ireland, Chances are you will need over 9k registered Players

131 Hurling Clubs in the Whole of Ulster v 210 in Cork alone

But that's saying that each club in cork has an average of over 120 adult hurlers. I know there'll be the urban super clubs, but the figures are hard to believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2023, 02:46:48 PM
Are you still in that age bracket Champ, lol....must be a photo finish!

1997 since I was a registered adult player, 40 years after my last appearance on the silver screen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 29, 2023, 05:34:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2023, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 29, 2023, 12:23:56 PM
Has any county a plan - by that I mean a 5/10 year plan or is it a case of make it up as they go?

The top level stuff is a business but I don't see it.

At inter-county level, it just seems short-sighted. A new manager in...for a year or two. Then he gets the boot and another comes in etc. etc. No planning at all, just doodling along feom year to year.

The lesser counties - very much ourselves included - fall into this category. Our games are that advanced that you need about 2-3 years to get players to the right level of fitness and conditioning for county. We change manages, and squads, regularly so there is no continuity and then players never get to the required pace.

You see now that Gleeson being in a few years has got us some continuity but the football has been a disaster for changing. We need to stick with someone and if not stick with a core set of players at least.

I imagine following on twitter would be the best you would get antrimman but not sure.

Good point regarding Gleeson.

The same applies to S & C also.  Need the same people involved in that to see what the players have done and their targets etc.

Football is not organised at all.

Just from day to day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 29, 2023, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 29, 2023, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on March 29, 2023, 03:57:55 PM
The Downeys are listed as Lavey players for tonight

No Official transfer through as of yet.

I thought 2 had gone through with 4 to follow. (Source: Wooly Parkinson / Smaller Fish Podcast).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 29, 2023, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 29, 2023, 10:17:38 AM
Disagree Spike tbh, but sure it's only individual opinions. Andys opinion is the one that matters, and yes he will want to put on a good show against Armagh.

But - its a long time since we judged any manager on the championship, we all know Antrims priority is being competitive / successful in our own grade. Now that the GAA has put additional emphasis on the Tailteean Cup its a competition we should be embracing.

We want to be competitive against Armagh- but personally I would love to win the Tailltean,  I think that would give us a much bigger boost than you think and set us up really well for a proper crack at Div 3 next year.

To translate that thinking to club football and equate it to bring mentally weak it should be pointed out that before any club has aspirations of winning a senior championship it needs to navigate its way through junior , intermediate and the lower leagues to earn the right to dine in that company. We all know that's not where we are atm, so why not prioritise the competition of the grade we are at?

Agree with this. I think the huge mistake made last year was to put everything into the Cavan match and after a hammering the Tailteann Cup was an after thought and another bad beating ensued (after a number of withdrawals). The wheels came off for McGinley and his inexperience showed. I think McEntee will be smarter in his approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on March 29, 2023, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: ck on March 29, 2023, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 29, 2023, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on March 29, 2023, 03:57:55 PM
The Downeys are listed as Lavey players for tonight

No Official transfer through as of yet.

I thought 2 had gone through with 4 to follow. (Source: Wooly Parkinson / Smaller Fish Podcast).
Transfer List is up to date until yesterday and they aren't on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2023, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
What would the playing population (football wise) in Antrim be? Chat on another thread was that you need over 9,000 players to reach senior finals either Ulster or All Ireland level

Really? Haven't seen the other thread, but that doesn't make sense. The equivalent of 90 clubs with 100 adult players each. Doubt if many counties have that.

The Monaghan figure mentioned above suggests roughly 50 clubs, with 100 adult players.

Hurling Registered Playing Population

Cork (25,600)
Tipperary (14,260)
Dublin (13,980)
Galway (12,520)
Kilkenny (10,080)
Limerick (9,980)

if You want to win an All Ireland, Chances are you will need over 9k registered Players

131 Hurling Clubs in the Whole of Ulster v 210 in Cork alone

But that's saying that each club in cork has an average of over 120 adult hurlers. I know there'll be the urban super clubs, but the figures are hard to believe.

I didn't produce them but this was a topic on a hurling thread when discussing what it takes to get to the top, there was no link to that post that I've cut and pasted across btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Two up with a few minutes to go

Extra time :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Two up with a few minutes to go

Extra time :-X

An Antrim team losing a lead.. be some uproar on social media about this 🤐😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Two up with a few minutes to go

Extra time :-X

An Antrim team losing a lead.. be some uproar on social media about this 🤐😉

Sack him!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Two up with a few minutes to go

Extra time :-X

An Antrim team losing a lead.. be some uproar on social media about this 🤐😉

Sack him!!

Put him down the road bais
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 09:31:07 PM
Could be penalties at this rate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 29, 2023, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 09:31:07 PM
Could be penalties at this rate

Spot on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 29, 2023, 09:33:47 PM
Very late equaliser for home side. 2 mins played at end of extra time. Seems a lot for a ten minute half!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 09:45:08 PM
Unfortunately we lost out by one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 29, 2023, 09:51:59 PM
Antrim were the better team in both normal time and ET. 2 points up in both with few mins to go and let it slip.
Fair play to lads who stepped up to take penalties but I thought it odd that the entire full back line were hitting them. Unusual to say the least.
This was one that got away.

Big McQuillan looks the real deal btw. Had heard about him. A top quality senior in the making.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 29, 2023, 09:54:28 PM
3 up in second half of ET, Donegal finished the end of ET well, outscoring us 0-4 to 0-1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Two up with a few minutes to go

Extra time :-X

An Antrim team losing a lead.. be some uproar on social media about this 🤐😉

Blame those Cargin boys.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 29, 2023, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: ck on March 29, 2023, 09:51:59 PM
Antrim were the better team in both normal time and ET. 2 points up in both with few mins to go and let it slip.
Fair play to lads who stepped up to take penalties but I thought it odd that the entire full back line were hitting them. Unusual to say the least.
This was one that got away.

Big McQuillan looks the real deal btw. Had heard about him. A top quality senior in the making.
I see your point on the full back line hitting pens but 2 of them buried theirs in some style.
Should have won that, bit more composure towards the end of the 2nd period of e.t and we were through comfortably. McQuillan and Conhuir johnston very impressive and exciting for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 29, 2023, 10:10:46 PM
Good wee team there.  Bad luck on the night though a lot of potential in that side
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 10:11:01 PM
Panicking and giving frees away, at this age that happens the composure will come from that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 29, 2023, 10:12:33 PM
What club is McQuillan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 29, 2023, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 29, 2023, 10:12:33 PM
What club is McQuillan?

Com Magees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 29, 2023, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 29, 2023, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: ck on March 29, 2023, 09:51:59 PM
Antrim were the better team in both normal time and ET. 2 points up in both with few mins to go and let it slip.
Fair play to lads who stepped up to take penalties but I thought it odd that the entire full back line were hitting them. Unusual to say the least.
This was one that got away.

Big McQuillan looks the real deal btw. Had heard about him. A top quality senior in the making.
I see your point on the full back line hitting pens but 2 of them buried theirs in some style.
Should have won that, bit more composure towards the end of the 2nd period of e.t and we were through comfortably. McQuillan and Conhuir johnston very impressive and exciting for the future.

Yes Johnston has a big future. There 5 or 6 from that team that you would see progressing to senior over the next 2 years. I thought McCormick from Moneyglass and Higgins from Con Magees were both excellent too.

Very disappointing that they couldnt close it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 29, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 29, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 08:44:39 PM
Two up with a few minutes to go

Extra time :-X

An Antrim team losing a lead.. be some uproar on social media about this 🤐😉

Blame those Cargin boys.....

No chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 29, 2023, 11:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

Just googled there



Monaghan have 5,000 men between ages 20 and 34 playing football it seems

So 1 in every 12 people in Monaghan is playing senior football 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'd very much doubt that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 11:28:51 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 29, 2023, 11:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2023, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 29, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
I wouldn't reckon Monaghan or Fermanagh have near those figures MR2 and both of those Counties have been punching well above their weight in Ulster finals?

Just googled there



Monaghan have 5,000 men between ages 20 and 34 playing football it seems

So 1 in every 12 people in Monaghan is playing senior football 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'd very much doubt that

No, they have 5000 men of that age who can play football. They could all be playing tiddlywinks but that's their pick. Or they could play they level you played at which is about the level of tiddlywinks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
Hateful to end up losing a game we had in our grasp, but thank God for the appearance of a few genuine marquee forwards who can kick on into top senior players in due course. McQuillan and Johnston look every inch the real deals and for that we can be hopeful.

Hard luck to all involved, big shift put in by Niall Jackmans management team and players tonight who went out with swords held high.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 30, 2023, 09:02:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
Hateful to end up losing a game we had in our grasp, but thank God for the appearance of a few genuine marquee forwards who can kick on into top senior players in due course. McQuillan and Johnston look every inch the real deals and for that we can be hopeful.

Hard luck to all involved, big shift put in by Niall Jackmans management team and players tonight who went out with swords held high.

Was at the game and some of the decisions made by the ref were scandalous, none the less its one that got away.
Derry will take a some beating full forward line of Matthew Downey Lachlan Murray and Niall O'Donnell. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 30, 2023, 10:40:40 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
Hateful to end up losing a game we had in our grasp, but thank God for the appearance of a few genuine marquee forwards who can kick on into top senior players in due course. McQuillan and Johnston look every inch the real deals and for that we can be hopeful.

Hard luck to all involved, big shift put in by Niall Jackmans management team and players tonight who went out with swords held high.

would second that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 30, 2023, 01:10:34 PM
Having contested three minor championship finals in the last few years and taking the title last year, only three figuring on the panel last evening progress looks decidedly slow at Musgrave.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2023, 02:01:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 30, 2023, 01:10:34 PM
Having contested three minor championship finals in the last few years and taking the title last year, only three figuring on the panel last evening progress looks decidedly slow at Musgrave.

With zero gra towards St Brigids. We won 4 ulster minor titles in a row and it took us 10 years (after the first) to win a county title. It takes time CB when you don't have a core at senior level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2023, 02:16:50 PM
According to Donegal Democrat 7 of that Donegal team last night played for their seniors at some stage during the league. Puts that excellent performance into perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 30, 2023, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 30, 2023, 01:10:34 PM
Having contested three minor championship finals in the last few years and taking the title last year, only three figuring on the panel last evening progress looks decidedly slow at Musgrave.
Progress could be sped up if rumours are true today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2023, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 30, 2023, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 30, 2023, 01:10:34 PM
Having contested three minor championship finals in the last few years and taking the title last year, only three figuring on the panel last evening progress looks decidedly slow at Musgrave.
Progress could be sped up if rumours are true today

Jim White heading up the road?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 30, 2023, 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 30, 2023, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on March 30, 2023, 01:10:34 PM
Having contested three minor championship finals in the last few years and taking the title last year, only three figuring on the panel last evening progress looks decidedly slow at Musgrave.
Progress could be sped up if rumours are true today

Is that the same rumour thats been going about about 6 months
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
If the Downey influx materialises, what are the expectations for St.Brigids this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 30, 2023, 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
If the Downey influx materialises, what are the expectations for St.Brigids this year?

Nothing much changes in my opinion, matthew and shea top players Enda is good oran and callum are average, but when the rest of your team is below par you are up against it.
Would maybe take 15 new players to be challengers, top 6 should be their aim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 30, 2023, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
If the Downey influx materialises, what are the expectations for St.Brigids this year?

St.Brigids improved a lot over the last couple of years but lack the older heads that most clubs have as their backbone. If the Downeys come in it should be enough to be C/ship contenders. 6 county standard players would propel any club side to success. League results this year have been very poor so far though.

What's the word, is it definitely happening? Still very surprised Lavey arent able to resolve it. From what I hear its a row based on ego and arrogance. Very sad if these lads leave the club that made them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 30, 2023, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
Hateful to end up losing a game we had in our grasp, but thank God for the appearance of a few genuine marquee forwards who can kick on into top senior players in due course. McQuillan and Johnston look every inch the real deals and for that we can be hopeful.

Hard luck to all involved, big shift put in by Niall Jackmans management team and players tonight who went out with swords held high.

Fair assessment. Jackman has done a good job and it was clear that the work was put in. Very unfortunate last night but a lot of positives and definite talent to come in and bolster senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 30, 2023, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: ck on March 30, 2023, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
Hateful to end up losing a game we had in our grasp, but thank God for the appearance of a few genuine marquee forwards who can kick on into top senior players in due course. McQuillan and Johnston look every inch the real deals and for that we can be hopeful.

Hard luck to all involved, big shift put in by Niall Jackmans management team and players tonight who went out with swords held high.

Fair assessment. Jackman has done a good job and it was clear that the work was put in. Very unfortunate last night but a lot of positives and definite talent to come in and bolster senior team.

From chatting to a number of the players they really liked Jackman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 30, 2023, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: ck on March 30, 2023, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 12:10:06 AM
Hateful to end up losing a game we had in our grasp, but thank God for the appearance of a few genuine marquee forwards who can kick on into top senior players in due course. McQuillan and Johnston look every inch the real deals and for that we can be hopeful.

Hard luck to all involved, big shift put in by Niall Jackmans management team and players tonight who went out with swords held high.

Fair assessment. Jackman has done a good job and it was clear that the work was put in. Very unfortunate last night but a lot of positives and definite talent to come in and bolster senior team.

Niall, resident in Toome is a very personable lad and knows his football...
Looked at that 'black card' incident and was a complete joke
...
St Brigid's with the Downeys aboard will be hot favs to win Antrim titles at their ease....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 30, 2023, 05:08:27 PM
Not sure about championship finalists but getting 6 starting senior footballers, 2 of whom are county level would strengthen any club side by a large amount.   If St Brigids get a nice side of the draw you never know.  The longer the Downeys have to integrate the stronger St Brigids will be.  Portglenone's usual favourable side of the draw looking tighter  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2023, 05:44:15 PM
Lol Spike 😆 see how that ended!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 30, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
St brigids are 2nd favourites for the championship behind Cargin.

Has the draw been made? It's been february the last few years but havnt heard of portglenone got their usual easy route to the final  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2023, 08:04:01 PM
Andy has called up several of the under 20 squad. Eunan Quinn, Ryan McQuillan, Cahir Donnelly and Patrick Ferris all getting the nod to join Conchuir Johnston Conall McGirr and Calum Higgins who were already on the extended squad. Good to see and none of them out of their depth as Andy continues to transition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on March 30, 2023, 08:13:19 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 30, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
St brigids are 2nd favourites for the championship behind Cargin.

Has the draw been made? It's been february the last few years but havnt heard of portglenone got their usual easy route to the final  :P
Wed  5th April
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 30, 2023, 10:47:58 PM
I see Johnston didn't either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 31, 2023, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Couldn't agree more. It's unheralded and is unlikely to do the young lads any favours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: ck on March 31, 2023, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Couldn't agree more. It's unheralded and is unlikely to do the young lads any favours.

If you were 19 or 20 years old and the county manager calls you to say "we'd like you to come on to the extended panel. get a feel for the set up, you might not play that much but would be great for your county development that you started to get involved, you'll still be able to play for your club so won't be missing game time"

I'm making that bit up as I don't know what was said, the lads had an option of saying no and no doubt talked to family about it before making a call on it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 31, 2023, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.

Yeah Gallagher does. Has taken in a few men that haven't played much senior football with their club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:55:06 AM
Kids are strange nowadays, they need that arm over the shoulder stuff, walking into a dressing room full of established stars at club level is daunting enough without doing it at county level so small steps and all that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 01:34:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.

Andy decided that the players were unavailable or injured? If players don't commit that's Andy's fault?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.
Lack of options of players willing to commit you ignorant fool.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.
Lack of options of players willing to commit you ignorant fool.


If players don't want to commit what does that say?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 01:34:55 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.

Andy decided that the players were unavailable or injured? If players don't commit that's Andy's fault?

Every county has the same issues with injuries and availability's or did you just decide not too read that part?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 02:08:48 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.
Lack of options of players willing to commit you ignorant fool.


If players don't want to commit what does that say?

Says they don't want to commit and unavailable.. Also they may feel that they want to commit more to the club, which again is ok, this isn't a job. other commitments may also be at hand, This is a past time, its for the love the club friends and family, not everyone has 5 days a week or more to give away..

Tell me what you think its says?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 31, 2023, 03:12:52 PM
The senior team were not provided a bus to go to longford...Stay Classy Antrim  ;D

Meanwhile the county hurlers sun themselves in portugal.

Now i understand the Hurlers are performing at a higher level but its not like they are setting the world on fire, where is the equality???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
EOC you can rest assured Donnelly and Johnston will make your starting 15, and both well equipped to go into a county senior panel and give a good account of themselves too!

Why the faux shock and bewilderment? There's probably a long list of good minors who played minor / senior the same year, never mind be included as part of a 34 man panel.

Andy saw enough to invite them in and the players are old enough to decide whether or not it's for them. Even if it is just added player development with an eye to 2024, again, what's the harm in that. What age was Paddy McBrearty when he debuted for Donegal, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 31, 2023, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 02:08:48 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 30, 2023, 11:04:41 PM
Both carrying knocks and hadn't taken part in recent challenges or training sessions. They both added someything extra to the mix though when introduced.

I'm fairly certain that year group was on the wrong end of an almighty bashing in their final year of minor, by he same opposition  - one we fairly lambasted here at the time, so you have to say they restored pride in themselves in the way they refused to lie down last night.

It's bittersweet though, definitely one that got away. The video going around that saw Eoin Gough get a black card, and the resulting free that ultimately made all the difference was nothing short of scandalous.
Baffled by Antrim calling these young players up, from a Cargin point of view one hasn't even made his senior debut yet and another is yet to become a regular in our senior team. Calling them into an intercounty squad at this stage if anything only highlights the lack of options McEntee has.

Lack of options your hole. Only 2 players from Portglenone; Cargin, Creggan and Aghagallon in the starting 15 on Sunday because Andy decided that. He picks his squad pure and simple, every county in the country has injuries and unavailabilities not just Antrim. In inter county management you live by the sword you die by the sword and by what decisions you make.
Lack of options of players willing to commit you ignorant fool.


If players don't want to commit what does that say?

Says they don't want to commit and unavailable.. Also they may feel that they want to commit more to the club, which again is ok, this isn't a job. other commitments may also be at hand, This is a past time, its for the love the club friends and family, not everyone has 5 days a week or more to give away..

Tell me what you think its says?

Age demographic and injuries are a major part of it.  There aren't really that many outside of those two factors that would be there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 03:56:50 PM
Looking forward to club games Wednesday evening now with the light. A good few tight games this round one would imagine.

St.Brigids v Aghagallon  ( Aghagallon + 6)
St. John's v Moneyglass ( Jonnies +2)
Rossa v St. Endas (Rossa +4)
Cargin v Creggan (Cargin + 3)
Tir Na nog v Lamh Dearg (LD + 2)
Portglenone v Ahoghill (Portglenone +3)

County U20 players back now for Cargin will strengthen them significantly.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 31, 2023, 03:58:04 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 31, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
EOC you can rest assured Donnelly and Johnston will make your starting 15, and both well equipped to go into a county senior panel and give a good account of themselves too!

Why the faux shock and bewilderment? There's probably a long list of good minors who played minor / senior the same year, never mind be included as part of a 34 man panel.

Andy saw enough to invite them in and the players are old enough to decide whether or not it's for them. Even if it is just added player development with an eye to 2024, again, what's the harm in that. What age was Paddy McBrearty when he debuted for Donegal, etc, etc.



Cahair wasn't called up Eunan Quinn got the call a player yet to cement a senior club place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2023, 04:04:40 PM
Fair enough. Thought I heard Cahir Donnellys name amongst the recent call ups. Eunan has got good competition in Cargin for a midfield jersey atm but going the right way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 31, 2023, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 31, 2023, 04:04:40 PM
Fair enough. Thought I heard Cahir Donnellys name amongst the recent call ups. Eunan has got good competition in Cargin for a midfield jersey atm but going the right way.


Dan is more than capable of a senior call up IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc

So only good if they are coming into a winning set up? Do you even read what you write?

Antrim haven't won shit in over god knows how many years ffs!

Feck you're dumb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc

So only good if they are coming into a winning set up? Do you even read what you write?

Antrim haven't won shit in over god knows how many years ffs!

Feck you're dumb

No you twat bringing young lads into a losing toxic senior environment doesnt do them any good 👍 who the hell is taking about years back apart from you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc

So only good if they are coming into a winning set up? Do you even read what you write?

Antrim haven't won shit in over god knows how many years ffs!

Feck you're dumb

No you twat bringing young lads into a losing toxic senior environment doesnt do them any good 👍 who the hell is taking about years back apart from you.

Honestly, there's wiser eating grass, losing toxic environment? Tipp and Longford went down, just in case you forgot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 31, 2023, 10:08:40 PM
Is the Antrim senior setup toxic? What happened?

They couldn't get a bus and the hurlers went to Portugal... f**king bastards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc

So only good if they are coming into a winning set up? Do you even read what you write?

Antrim haven't won shit in over god knows how many years ffs!

Feck you're dumb

No you twat bringing young lads into a losing toxic senior environment doesnt do them any good 👍 who the hell is taking about years back apart from you.

Honestly, there's wiser eating grass, losing toxic environment? Tipp and Longford went down, just in case you forgot

You literally said Antrim having been losing for years like 2 messages ago but now saying its not a losing environment, make you mind up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 31, 2023, 10:14:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 31, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
EOC you can rest assured Donnelly and Johnston will make your starting 15, and both well equipped to go into a county senior panel and give a good account of themselves too!

Why the faux shock and bewilderment? There's probably a long list of good minors who played minor / senior the same year, never mind be included as part of a 34 man panel.

Andy saw enough to invite them in and the players are old enough to decide whether or not it's for them. Even if it is just added player development with an eye to 2024, again, what's the harm in that. What age was Paddy McBrearty when he debuted for Donegal, etc, etc.
Cahir already an established player and Conhuir will be straight in there too no big shocks there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 31, 2023, 10:17:24 PM
Two gooduns EOC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc

So only good if they are coming into a winning set up? Do you even read what you write?

Antrim haven't won shit in over god knows how many years ffs!

Feck you're dumb

No you twat bringing young lads into a losing toxic senior environment doesnt do them any good 👍 who the hell is taking about years back apart from you.

Honestly, there's wiser eating grass, losing toxic environment? Tipp and Longford went down, just in case you forgot

You literally said Antrim having been losing for years like 2 messages ago but now saying its not a losing environment, make you mind up.

You referenced Derry, Ulster Champions and players coming on to winning team unlike Antrim .. we ain't winners so we just don't bring on players? The toxic stuff tell me that?


You hate the county I get that,  they stopped your podcast, toys thrown out and a bunch of lies thrown in too, was shit anyways, but come on here and throw out more crap to have a dig? Christ the night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on March 31, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 10:46:18 AM
Have to agree MR2. Good forward planning I'd have thought? Does gallagher not do similar in Derry.


Difference is the Derry set up and the Antrim set up are like chalk and cheese, young lads coming into Derry are coming into a winning environment and are learning off players and leaders like McKauigue Glass McGuigan Rodgers etc

So only good if they are coming into a winning set up? Do you even read what you write?

Antrim haven't won shit in over god knows how many years ffs!

Feck you're dumb

No you twat bringing young lads into a losing toxic senior environment doesnt do them any good 👍 who the hell is taking about years back apart from you.

Honestly, there's wiser eating grass, losing toxic environment? Tipp and Longford went down, just in case you forgot

You literally said Antrim having been losing for years like 2 messages ago but now saying its not a losing environment, make you mind up.

You referenced Derry, Ulster Champions and players coming on to winning team unlike Antrim .. we ain't winners so we just don't bring on players? The toxic stuff tell me that?


You hate the county I get that,  they stopped your podcast, toys thrown out and a bunch of lies thrown in too, was shit anyways, but come on here and throw out more crap to have a dig? Christ the night!


Just when I thought any more shit could be spouted lol true colours tonight kiddo

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 01, 2023, 12:01:02 AM
Holy Ghost. Are things that bad? Honestly? Take a breath boys. The seniors survived again in division 3 in a new management teams first year in charge. Not bad going considering it takes time to implement a new system, set of standards and expectations etc.
The u20's have also been a big positive by all accounts. Surely there's enough going on at the minute to give cause for some hope. I'm looking at division 1 and 2 club fixtures over the next few weeks and it's a reminder of how competitive and exciting our senior and intermediate league and championship is again this year. Put the knives away and choose love  :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 01, 2023, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 01, 2023, 12:01:02 AM
Holy Ghost. Are things that bad? Honestly? Take a breath boys. The seniors survived again in division 3 in a new management teams first year in charge. Not bad going considering it takes time to implement a new system, set of standards and expectations etc.
The u20's have also been a big positive by all accounts. Surely there's enough going on at the minute to give cause for some hope. I'm looking at division 1 and 2 club fixtures over the next few weeks and it's a reminder of how competitive and exciting our senior and intermediate league and championship is again this year. Put the knives away and choose love  :-*

What other county in the country has a full round of club fixtures 2 and a half days before the county has a championship game, and as far as the club leagues the county have made their feelings known about the league by having games at 10am. Cargin v Creggan should be a marquee fixture in our league calendar on Wednesday night but instead we'll have nothing but shadow boxing with 2 reserve sides. But I'm sure when they meet in championship in August we'll see the usual suspects at the gate scanning bar codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 01, 2023, 12:18:34 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 31, 2023, 03:56:50 PM
Looking forward to club games Wednesday evening now with the light. A good few tight games this round one would imagine.

St.Brigids v Aghagallon  ( Aghagallon + 6)
St. John's v Moneyglass ( Jonnies +2)
Rossa v St. Endas (Rossa +4)
Cargin v Creggan (Cargin + 3)
Tir Na nog v Lamh Dearg (LD + 2)
Portglenone v Ahoghill (Portglenone +3)

County U20 players back now for Cargin will strengthen them significantly.

All home wins apart from St Brigids v Aghagallon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 01, 2023, 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 01, 2023, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 01, 2023, 12:01:02 AM
Holy Ghost. Are things that bad? Honestly? Take a breath boys. The seniors survived again in division 3 in a new management teams first year in charge. Not bad going considering it takes time to implement a new system, set of standards and expectations etc.
The u20's have also been a big positive by all accounts. Surely there's enough going on at the minute to give cause for some hope. I'm looking at division 1 and 2 club fixtures over the next few weeks and it's a reminder of how competitive and exciting our senior and intermediate league and championship is again this year. Put the knives away and choose love  :-*

What other county in the country has a full round of club fixtures 2 and a half days before the county has a championship game, and as far as the club leagues the county have made their feelings known about the league by having games at 10am. Cargin v Creggan should be a marquee fixture in our league calendar on Wednesday night but instead we'll have nothing but shadow boxing with 2 reserve sides. But I'm sure when they meet in championship in August we'll see the usual suspects at the gate scanning bar codes.
Cargin and Creggan, both sides will only be missing a couple each because of Antrims game. Could be other reasons why others aren't there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 05:24:19 PM
Just saw betting for 2023 senior football championship and Brigid's are second favourites.......ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2023, 06:15:47 PM
Who's laying the odds CB?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 01, 2023, 06:16:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 05:24:19 PM
Just saw betting for 2023 senior football championship and Brigid's are second favourites.......ffs.

Not necessarily.. I'm guessing they've had alot of bets put on them which means their odds shorten.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2023, 06:15:47 PM
Who's laying the odds CB?

Boylesports....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2023, 06:15:47 PM
Who's laying the odds CB?

Boylesports.....must be a Derry man there.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 06:34:59 PM
Jeez, 5/2 .....watch out for the rush....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 01, 2023, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 06:34:59 PM
Jeez, 5/2 .....watch out for the rush....

I really wouldn't worry about them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2023, 07:02:30 PM
Hurlers get Portugal and the footballers get Glenariffe. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 01, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 05:24:19 PM
Just saw betting for 2023 senior football championship and Brigid's are second favourites.......ffs.

Interesting considering not one Downey transfer has officially gone through yet and the Championship draw hasn't even taken place.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 01, 2023, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 01, 2023, 05:24:19 PM
Just saw betting for 2023 senior football championship and Brigid's are second favourites.......ffs.
Laughably this is actually true 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2023, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2023, 07:02:30 PM
Hurlers get Portugal and the footballers get Glenariffe. 😉

Most probably got lost on the way to it ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 01, 2023, 09:36:33 PM
At least they let them on the pitch
Remember Lougheil had a no big ball policy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2023, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 01, 2023, 09:36:33 PM
At least they let them on the pitch
Remember Lougheil had a no big ball policy

Nothing wrong with that! Wonder did they mark out the 45's!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2023, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

My posts were more for stirring the pot than anything.

Haters going to hate surely, again depends on what agenda they wanna push.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2023, 11:13:42 AM
Glenariffe have a ladies football team anyway so not as averse to the big ball plus various county teams seem to have been at that kilmore house.

Funny set of finals yesterday. I think we'd have bother with Sligo but on the flip side wouldn't be convinced there'd be much between us and Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Minder on April 02, 2023, 12:42:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2023, 11:13:42 AM
Glenariffe have a ladies football team anyway so not as averse to the big ball plus various county teams seem to have been at that kilmore house.

Funny set of finals yesterday. I think we'd have bother with Sligo but on the flip side wouldn't be convinced there'd be much between us and Fermanagh.

I'm not sure they will be invited back anytime soon from what I have heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2023, 01:33:03 PM
More rumours?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Get everything they need?
They couldn't get a bus to longford...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2023, 01:25:24 PM
Maybe the bus money was used to pay the weekend in Waterfoot. 🤐😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Get everything they need?
They couldn't get a bus to longford...

He's hardly going to say they are inept on the week of an Ulster Championship match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 03, 2023, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Get everything they need?
They couldn't get a bus to longford...


Think you will find that the players preferred the option of taking their own cars as opposed to a coach, their decision I believe, think the hurlers have done this a few times too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2023, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 03, 2023, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Get everything they need?
They couldn't get a bus to longford...


Think you will find that the players preferred the option of taking their own cars as opposed to a coach, their decision I believe, think the hurlers have done this a few times too

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on April 03, 2023, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 03, 2023, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Get everything they need?
They couldn't get a bus to longford...


Think you will find that the players preferred the option of taking their own cars as opposed to a coach, their decision I believe, think the hurlers have done this a few times too

Squad discontent ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2023, 03:09:29 PM
Exactly PJ....but then commonsense would dictate that without having to spell it out for these glass empty fantasists. Thankfully the vast majority here can see through this drivel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 03, 2023, 01:25:24 PM
Maybe the bus money was used to pay the weekend in Waterfoot. 🤐😉

Yeah would say that really broke the bank...

Some difference in Waterfoot than Portugal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 03, 2023, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 03, 2023, 02:32:11 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples.

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Get everything they need?
They couldn't get a bus to longford...


Think you will find that the players preferred the option of taking their own cars as opposed to a coach, their decision I believe, think the hurlers have done this a few times too

Squad discontent ?

🤐
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 03, 2023, 03:58:22 PM

St.Brigids v Aghagallon  ( Aghagallon + 2)
St. John's v Moneyglass ( Jonnies +1)
Rossa v St. Endas (Rossa +6)
Cargin v Creggan (Cargin +6)
Tir Na nog v Lamh Dearg (TNN+ 2)
Portglenone v Ahoghill (Ports +7)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 03, 2023, 04:25:55 PM
St.Brigids v Aghagallon  ( Aghagallon + 5)
St. John's v Moneyglass ( Jonnies +4)
Rossa v St. Endas (Rossa +2)
Cargin v Creggan (Cargin +6)
Tir Na nog v Lamh Dearg (LD +2)
Portglenone v Ahoghill (PORTS+5)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 05:57:23 PM

St.Brigids v Aghagallon  ( Aghagallon +7)
St. John's v Moneyglass ( Jonnies +5)
Rossa v St. Endas (Rossa +1)
Cargin v Creggan (Draw)
Tir Na nog v Lamh Dearg (TNN+5)
Portglenone v Ahoghill (Ports +3)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2023, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 03, 2023, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 03, 2023, 01:25:24 PM
Maybe the bus money was used to pay the weekend in Waterfoot. 🤐😉

Yeah would say that really broke the bank...

Some difference in Waterfoot than Portugal

Did the county pay for the hurlers to go to Portugal? Or did the hurlers fund it themselves?

Did the footballers get the opportunity to go somewhere also? Maybe wasn't enough time between end of league and Armagh game?

It's all speculation which only a few know the truth about. Some people need to have a word with themselves, spouting absolute rubbish on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2023, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim on April 04, 2023, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
Things have improved beyond recognition since before the arrival of Saffron Vision, county squads get everything they need, with full support teams to back it up. Work going on behind the scenes in coaching and fundraising that  we would have given an arm for a decade ago, and while it's not perfect by any stretch, we are very obviously making great progress in the right areas.

As someone who has a long history of calling out the county "board" for their ineptitude, going back several decades, I can assure those current dissidents that if they had been around pre Paddy O' Hara report into football affairs in the county and what we have now.....its like day and night. And I'm happy to give plenty of examples

My youngest on dev squad this year, gear hasn't been given out yet, when I asked  about it was told  shorts and socks being given out over the next fortnight , then training top, half zip and skinnies would be given out at the start of June, but sure that's positive and doesn't seem to fit the narrative on this board anymore. .

Haters will hate, but the show must go on.

Not every development team got gear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 05, 2023, 10:21:26 PM
No show like a Totes show tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on April 05, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
Unbelievable that's all I'm saying!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 05, 2023, 10:51:59 PM
Any word on the championship draws or do we have to contact our secretaries?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 06, 2023, 12:37:49 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on April 05, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
Unbelievable that's all I'm saying!!

Hardly unbelievable the standard of refereeing across the board completely reeks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 06, 2023, 07:41:01 AM
The head of Gaelfast and his management team behaving poorly inside at half time I'm hearing
Draw a fair result last night
Seeing the Casements are running away with the league the big Eddie Fitz cup could well be heading to Kelly park this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 06, 2023, 08:29:48 AM
Sorry Brendan

Quote from: Antrim on April 06, 2023, 08:21:04 AM
I bet theirs one person involved in all of these profiles. Realistic saff. DIE. Would you whist.
Pathetic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 06, 2023, 09:34:36 AM
I wonder was in the individual referee reviewer in Toome last night  :o :o
Shocking display.

Draw fair result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
The standard of referees on here is very good though!!

The standard of local podcast presenters is pathetic though

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 06, 2023, 10:02:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
The standard of referees on here is very good though!!

The standard of local podcast presenters is pathetic though

Awk come on now MR2 take it easy on them it gives us something to talk about lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 06, 2023, 10:22:35 AM
Listening to paddy mc bride on the GAA social, great role model for any young gael. Very well spoken.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 06, 2023, 10:24:50 AM
The refereeing was alot better than the standard of play. The quality of football was very poor from both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 06, 2023, 10:50:30 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 06, 2023, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
The standard of referees on here is very good though!!

The standard of local podcast presenters is pathetic though

Trust me if it was pathetic I'd doubt they'd get thousands of listens weekly from every corner of the globe and loads of positive of direct messages

Dead as doornails the podcast by the sounds of it, did McCavanagh want to suit up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 06, 2023, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 06, 2023, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
The standard of referees on here is very good though!!

The standard of local podcast presenters is pathetic though

Trust me if it was pathetic I'd doubt they'd get thousands of listens weekly from every corner of the globe and loads of positive of direct messages

I think the podcast is great, some people on here just don't like a few home truths being told...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 06, 2023, 11:01:16 AM
Is the podcast back again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 06, 2023, 11:02:01 AM
aye, sure it's been about for yyyeeeaaaarrrrs!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?

Just been updated , draws on 12th April , 7pm .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?

Just been updated , draws on 12th April , 7pm .

Again, when there is a full set of fixtures on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 06, 2023, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?

Just been updated , draws on 12th April , 7pm .

Again, when there is a full set of fixtures on

It'll make it more exciting 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 06, 2023, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?

Just been updated , draws on 12th April , 7pm .

Again, when there is a full set of fixtures on

It'll make it more exciting 😉
Maybe co. dont want anyone to be there !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 01:03:19 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 06, 2023, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?

Just been updated , draws on 12th April , 7pm .

Again, when there is a full set of fixtures on

It'll make it more exciting 😉
Maybe co. dont want anyone to be there !

What are you insinuating !!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 06, 2023, 01:54:23 PM
I have likely missed this information already, but is the championship format going to be the same as last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 06, 2023, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 01:03:19 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 06, 2023, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2023, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 06, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 04, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 04, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
Still no word with championship draws very late this year

Was 5th April not mentioned on here recently



Would that happen with a full fixture list on the same night?

Just been updated , draws on 12th April , 7pm .

Again, when there is a full set of fixtures on

It'll make it more exciting 😉
Maybe co. dont want anyone to be there !

What are you insinuating !!  ;D


Surely not to have the Ports in the weak side of the draw again 😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 06, 2023, 03:03:32 PM
Lol. Only problem is the definition of "easy". I don't see that huge gap between that others see. Certainly no remote dominance like St Galls and Cargin were in their pomp - with the rest not on the same page!

A lot of teams can raise themselves for a one off - if you don't turn up with your A game you are in trouble no matter what group you get, imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 06, 2023, 03:08:25 PM
what do you mean were?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on April 06, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
The outright odds on Boylesport before the draw has even been made are comical.

In my book Cargin and Creggan remain favourites with Aghagallon and Portglenone close behind.

Will be interesting to see if the new look St Brigids side can cause a bit of disruption come Championship time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 06, 2023, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 06, 2023, 03:03:32 PM
Lol. Only problem is the definition of "easy". I don't see that huge gap between that others see. Certainly no remote dominance like St Galls and Cargin were in their pomp - with the rest not on the same page!

A lot of teams can raise themselves for a one off - if you don't turn up with your A game you are in trouble no matter what group you get, imo.
You should of re-posted the same message you put up last year at this exact time BS, would of saved you some time  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 06, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on April 06, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
The outright odds on Boylesport before the draw has even been made are comical.

In my book Cargin and Creggan remain favourites with Aghagallon and Portglenone close behind.

Will be interesting to see if the new look St Brigids side can cause a bit of disruption come Championship time.

They've about 9 county standard players to come into their team if you include those 5 Downeys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 06, 2023, 04:23:37 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 06, 2023, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on April 06, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
The outright odds on Boylesport before the draw has even been made are comical.

In my book Cargin and Creggan remain favourites with Aghagallon and Portglenone close behind.

Will be interesting to see if the new look St Brigids side can cause a bit of disruption come Championship time.

They've about 9 county standard players to come into their team if you include those 5 Downeys.

Jeez JS you have scared the life outa the Cargin management....R D phoned....he is contemplating withdrawing.........
Could you blame him......??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 06, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
Indeed EOC. As anticipated there wasn't a huge gap between a cluster of teams last year, with draws and last minute scores separating the sides on occasions. Cargin were the team that found the way to claim McNamee once again, and even their most fervent supporters got their aspirations taken right to the wire a few times before seeing off the challenge. Obvious Cargin still set the standard but I forsee another clinking championship later this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 06, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on April 06, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
The outright odds on Boylesport before the draw has even been made are comical.

In my book Cargin and Creggan remain favourites with Aghagallon and Portglenone close behind.

Will be interesting to see if the new look St Brigids side can cause a bit of disruption come Championship time.

They've about 9 county standard players to come into their team if you include those 5 Downeys.
Imagine playing for your club from U8 and then watching a car load of lads sail in and take your jersey for the championship because some of  the people in their club can't be grown ups.  Just can't get my head around that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 06, 2023, 05:50:22 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 06, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on April 06, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
The outright odds on Boylesport before the draw has even been made are comical.

In my book Cargin and Creggan remain favourites with Aghagallon and Portglenone close behind.

Will be interesting to see if the new look St Brigids side can cause a bit of disruption come Championship time.

They've about 9 county standard players to come into their team if you include those 5 Downeys.
Imagine playing for your club from U8 and then watching a car load of lads sail in and take your jersey for the championship because some of  the people in their club can't be grown ups.  Just can't get my head around that.

they may need to parachute these Downey lads in ASAP they solidified their place in the basement of division 1 with another loss to aghagallon- think they got 4 points from play in that game poor showing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 06, 2023, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 06, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 06, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Caesar on April 06, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
The outright odds on Boylesport before the draw has even been made are comical.

In my book Cargin and Creggan remain favourites with Aghagallon and Portglenone close behind.

Will be interesting to see if the new look St Brigids side can cause a bit of disruption come Championship time.

They've about 9 county standard players to come into their team if you include those 5 Downeys.
Imagine playing for your club from U8 and then watching a car load of lads sail in and take your jersey for the championship because some of  the people in their club can't be grown ups.  Just can't get my head around that.

Literally happens at every Belfast club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 06, 2023, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 06, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
Indeed EOC. As anticipated there wasn't a huge gap between a cluster of teams last year, with draws and last minute scores separating the sides on occasions. Cargin were the team that found the way to claim McNamee once again, and even their most fervent supporters got their aspirations taken right to the wire a few times before seeing off the challenge. Obvious Cargin still set the standard but I forsee another clinking championship later this year.
Was only winding BS, I agree it's wide open for the top 4 or 5 teams, the draw will dictate alot if it ever takes place 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 06, 2023, 10:18:45 PM
Getting very close to Ulster Championship, hopefully there is a big Antrim support there on Saturday, for sure there will be a massive home crowd. The squad and management deserve our support, I think it can be a competitive game, hard to know what way Armagh will approach it. They seem to have retreated from their attacking style of last year but they may think they can open us up. Could be entertaining!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 06, 2023, 10:32:10 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 06, 2023, 10:18:45 PM
Getting very close to Ulster Championship, hopefully there is a big Antrim support there on Saturday, for sure there will be a massive home crowd. The squad and management deserve our support, I think it can be a competitive game, hard to know what way Armagh will approach it. They seem to have retreated from their attacking style of last year but they may think they can open us up. Could be entertaining!

Armagh team has been named - prob will be many changes before throw in
No rian o Neil / jarly of / murnin  for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2023, 12:29:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 06, 2023, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 06, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
Indeed EOC. As anticipated there wasn't a huge gap between a cluster of teams last year, with draws and last minute scores separating the sides on occasions. Cargin were the team that found the way to claim McNamee once again, and even their most fervent supporters got their aspirations taken right to the wire a few times before seeing off the challenge. Obvious Cargin still set the standard but I forsee another clinking championship later this year.
Was only winding BS, I agree it's wide open for the top 4 or 5 teams, the draw will dictate alot if it ever takes place 🤣


Draw this Wednesday night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 07, 2023, 12:24:51 PM
Antrim team named. First thing that struck me is how strong the bench is. Probably stronger than the starting team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 19, 2023, 11:15:29 AM
Tyrone under 20s are different gravy, they are a shoe in for Ulster and quite likely back 2 back All Irelands, so to remain reasonably competitive in Healy Park yesterday for long periods was an achievement of sorts. You can see three or four talents in the Antrim squad that will progress to senior level in the next few years, that's definitely encouraging and fair play to Niall Jackman, his backroom team and county games development officer Paddy Kelly for delivering a programme that is properly facilitating that.

:o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Of all them clubs them boys are playing for, how many of them the starting 15 have got to a championship semi final in the last 4/5 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Of all them clubs them boys are playing for, how many of them the starting 15 have got to an antrim championship semi final in the last 4/5 years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2023, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Of all them clubs them boys are playing for, how many of them the starting 15 have got to an antrim championship semi final in the last 4/5 years?


And what?  One of the best players in an Antrim shirt in recent memory was Kevin Brady, no senior championship medals on his side board!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 07, 2023, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.

Is it possible that 'Andy' only rates one individual  in the PG1 squad worthy of a jersey.....?

Or could it be PG1 are heading on another route......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 02:07:47 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2023, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Of all them clubs them boys are playing for, how many of them the starting 15 have got to an antrim championship semi final in the last 4/5 years?


And what?  One of the best players in an Antrim shirt in recent memory was Kevin Brady, no senior championship medals on his side board!

Difference is Brady was surrounded by the best players in the county. Players from division 2 sides= 2 Cargin, Portglenone, Aghagallon and Creggan= 3 surely the best team have the best players or is that not a thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 07, 2023, 02:03:16 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.

Is it possible that 'Andy' only rates one individual  in the PG1 squad worthy of a jersey.....?

Or could it be PG1 are heading on another route......?

Hardly? Sure he's doing the job with 2 hands behind his back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 07, 2023, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2023, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Of all them clubs them boys are playing for, how many of them the starting 15 have got to an antrim championship semi final in the last 4/5 years?


And what?  One of the best players in an Antrim shirt in recent memory was Kevin Brady, no senior championship medals on his side board!

Brady was a class act...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 07, 2023, 03:36:06 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 02:07:47 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 07, 2023, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 07, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
Of all them clubs them boys are playing for, how many of them the starting 15 have got to an antrim championship semi final in the last 4/5 years?


And what?  One of the best players in an Antrim shirt in recent memory was Kevin Brady, no senior championship medals on his side board!

Difference is Brady was surrounded by the best players in the county. Players from division 2 sides= 2 Cargin, Portglenone, Aghagallon and Creggan= 3 surely the best team have the best players or is that not a thing?
Not if the Armagh team is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 07, 2023, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.
Cargin boys rarely commit to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 08, 2023, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 07, 2023, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.
Cargin boys rarely commit to Antrim
Shots fired.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2023, 09:30:31 AM
Good article in the Irish news about Chris lynch from ld today. He's working with the Australian soccer team today.

Btw is there a match on somewhere today... Hoping Armagh continue their last few bad games and we play like most games except Westmeath  ; Come on Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2023, 09:30:31 AM
Good article in the Irish news about Chris lynch from ld today. He's working with the Australian soccer team today.

Btw is there a match on somewhere today... Hoping Armagh continue their last few bad games and we play like most games except Westmeath  ; Come on Antrim.

The betting is +9 I think that's accurate enough for a Div 1 team playing a Div 3 team..

Not sure which Antrim team will turn up and how Armagh will go at this game feeling that Cavan is the main match going forward.

Will we try and be defensive? Think Armagh may want to come out very strong early doors, they've a big supporter base so they'll be looking to put on a show.

We need to at the very least match their intensity in the first 20 minutes and see where that takes us. But need to keep discipline otherwise it's curtain's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 08, 2023, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 07, 2023, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.
Cargin boys rarely commit to Antrim
As a wise man one said, "away and take your head for a shite mate"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 08, 2023, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2023, 09:30:31 AM
Good article in the Irish news about Chris lynch from ld today. He's working with the Australian soccer team today.

Btw is there a match on somewhere today... Hoping Armagh continue their last few bad games and we play like most games except Westmeath  ; Come on Antrim.

The betting is +9 I think that's accurate enough for a Div 1 team playing a Div 3 team..

Not sure which Antrim team will turn up and how Armagh will go at this game feeling that Cavan is the main match going forward.

Will we try and be defensive? Think Armagh may want to come out very strong early doors, they've a big supporter base so they'll be looking to put on a show.

We need to at the very least match their intensity in the first 20 minutes and see where that takes us. But need to keep discipline otherwise it's curtain's
They can have all the supporters in the world, but they're nothing special.  I just hope our lads truly believe that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 08, 2023, 01:07:20 PM
I've already been ridiculed in my own home here during lunch time predictions, but I believe there will only be a kick of the ball between the teams at the end of the game this evening. Here's hoping we're on the right side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 08, 2023, 06:29:52 PM
All negative here but we were lucky the scoreboard didn't reflect the game there. Some positives like Conor Stewarts goal and our captains efforts but crazy decisions by the manager today, start a guy who wouldn't make a good division 1 club team then take him off after 20mins for example. I'd rather lose by 30 points and show some aggression and bite. We weren't expected to win and didn't win but that was brutally bad. As for Sean O Neill why would you even bother!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 06:53:35 PM
9 point handicap and that's how it panned out. Armagh never really got out of second gear.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 08, 2023, 07:05:33 PM
Very poor, so much wrong there and not many positives at all. A depressing day, another one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on April 08, 2023, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 06:53:35 PM
9 point handicap and that's how it panned out. Armagh never really got out of second gear.

8 with PP

Atrocious performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 08, 2023, 07:18:21 PM
Shocking and horrible performance against an armagh team in 2nd gear. Its the hope that kills you.  Mark Jordan only positive.  Hoping Andy has seen enough to know who.has the guts for championship football and who are just league heroes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 08, 2023, 07:21:31 PM
Not going to name names but a few lads playing today wouldnt start for the top 3/4 club teams in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 08, 2023, 07:55:30 PM
The days of shocks and upsets are long gone.  Teams are too well set up.  Armagh are so far down the road compared to this Antrim team.  They set the trap defensively time and again, and we gave it away and they transitioned quickly.  Only they left their shooting boots behind it would've been a complete disaster, although we left ours behind too.

Plenty for McEntee to have a think about and reshuffle.  Can't argue with the case that some of the team are nowhere near this level. I just hope the squad sticks together and gives the Tailteann Cup their best effort.  But it's up to the manager to show his mettle now and not settle for mediocrity.

And is it too much to ask for a wee bit of passion from some of the players.  A bit of divil.  We just don't have that championship mindset, take a yellow, black, whatever it takes to get in the face of the opposition.  Cavan will tear into Armagh.  We've completely lost that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 08, 2023, 08:17:02 PM
Boys on here had themselves convinced there was going to be an upset ffs. Armagh missing a few of their best players and didn't get out of second gear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on April 08, 2023, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2023, 08:17:02 PM
Boys on here had themselves convinced there was going to be an upset ffs. Armagh missing a few of their best players and didn't get out of second gear.

There was a passage of play in first half, Armagh player carrying the ball past the midfield line into Antrim territory, Antrim player within 5-7 yds of him, didn't even make a move to press or tackle him. Is anyone gonna tell me that has anything to do with Div 3 football ? You would be giving out to U-14s for that level of effort.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 08, 2023, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 08, 2023, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2023, 08:17:02 PM
Boys on here had themselves convinced there was going to be an upset ffs. Armagh missing a few of their best players and didn't get out of second gear.

There was a passage of play in first half, Armagh player carrying the ball past the midfield line into Antrim territory, Antrim player within 5-7 yds of him, didn't even make a move to press or tackle him. Is anyone gonna tell me that has anything to do with Div 3 football ? You would be giving out to U-14s for that level of effort.

Yep - pretty sure I know the exact passage you are talking about. The Armagh player waltzed pass, probably amazed at how easy it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 08, 2023, 08:39:29 PM
There was more effort, work, aggression in the Cavan league match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 08, 2023, 08:40:02 PM
Horrible performance. Woeful. Armagh barely broke sweat.
I hate saying this but there are one or two players picked on that team and only McEntee knows how they've been selected.
It's clear now that no progress has been made in the last year but I hope they stick together, learn from this and give the Tailteann Cup a genuine push.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on April 08, 2023, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

Hard to be positive after tonight but at least make an effort to be constructive, also most of the clowns you refer to on here are having an impact on their clubs or within the county. Not just spouting bile and boasting about it boosting their bank balance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on April 08, 2023, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

Hard to be positive after tonight but at least make an effort to be constructive, also most of the clowns you refer to on here are having an impact on their clubs or within the county. Not just spouting bile and boasting about it boosting their bank balance.

Funny who you quoted my message and not the guy above wonder why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 10:15:22 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

You'd have been about 8 when Dawson was onboard  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 10:15:22 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

You'd have been about 8 when Dawson was onboard  ;D

Nope. More like 18... let me guess you Tumelty and Matthews getting the big gigs tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2023, 10:15:22 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

You'd have been about 8 when Dawson was onboard  ;D

Nope. More like 18... let me guess you Tumelty and Matthews getting the big gigs tomorrow?

So you're actually an adult?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 12:03:36 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 07, 2023, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 07, 2023, 12:43:45 PM
First thing that struck me was not a Cargin player is starting. A team who has taken 6 of the last 8 championships and put Glen to the pin of their collar a few months ago.

The 2nd thing that struck me was,  Casements have no starters either for a team who have been a top 4 team the past two seasons, none on the bench either.
Cargin boys rarely commit to Antrim

When they aren't presented with division 1 trophies by the county and have fans who are in wheelchairs that are denied access to county finals I'd hardly blame them for not committing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 09, 2023, 01:38:23 AM
Are you going right pretend you're a Cargin fan now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 09, 2023, 03:02:18 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

For the craic can you say who should be playing that isn't there? The talent ain't just there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 09, 2023, 03:02:18 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 08, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
Woeful performance after an abysmal league campaign. Worst manager we've had since Dawson and one of the worst Antrim panels I've seen. 1 win over an already promoted unmotivated Cavan side to scrap survival, some of use clowns on this message board need to stop with toxic positivey because it would put your head away.

For the craic can you say who should be playing that isn't there? The talent ain't just there

The talent is there too put in a way better performance than yesterday's nonsense and the utter nonsense we've seen all year. Disaster of an appointment, 80% lose ratio in all competitions this year,
the guy literally said he never wanted to manage another county a few weeks before he was confirmed as Antrim manager I wonder what convinced him 💰, without embarrassing lads everyone can see who isnt anywhere the standard and theres alot, but that's the problem when you appoint someone who hasn't a notion about our club scene.
Most people I chat too are just apathetic and fed up towards the county now and couldn't give a toss, the attendances were absolutely shocking for both codes in the league at Corrigan and any wonder top dollar for pure mock year in year out takes its toll on people.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?

Well, young player of the year 2022 Sean O' Neill has been superb for Cargin all year, outstanding wing back is, in my bubble opinion worth a place.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?

Well, young player of the year 2022 Sean O' Neill has been superb for Cargin all year, outstanding wing back is, in my bubble opinion worth a place.....

Not doubting that CB, that wasn't the question though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 09, 2023, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?

Well, young player of the year 2022 Sean O' Neill has been superb for Cargin all year, outstanding wing back is, in my bubble opinion worth a place.....

Not doubting that CB, that wasn't the question though
You asked who should be playing that wasn't, Sean ONeill is one for definite. Just hope his confidence hasn't been knocked too much by his treatment.  Don't want to be too personal but truthfully Jack Dowling and McLarnon from St Paul's would be reserve players in Cargin, Creggan, Portglenone and Aghagallon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on April 09, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
So basically fill the team with Cargin players and we would have beaten Armagh ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 10:43:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?

Why are you playing silly beggars for MR? Sure you only referee Division 1 games week in week out you should know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 09, 2023, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?

Well, young player of the year 2022 Sean O' Neill has been superb for Cargin all year, outstanding wing back is, in my bubble opinion worth a place.....

Not doubting that CB, that wasn't the question though, it was who should be playing that isn't
You asked who should be playing that wasn't, Sean ONeill is one for definite. Just hope his confidence hasn't been knocked too much by his treatment.  Don't want to be too personal but truthfully Jack Dowling and McLarnon from St Paul's would be reserve players in Cargin.

No it was (and I didn't ask the question)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 09, 2023, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 09, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
So basically fill the team with Cargin players and we would have beaten Armagh ?
No definitely not, but don't put sub standard players into that environment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 09, 2023, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on April 09, 2023, 11:02:19 AM
J Finnegan,C MC Larnon definitely not county standard either is P Finnegan or Dowling who came on either,R Murray to be truthful ain't either, but they put their hand up when asked to come on board,loughran coming on wtf,dicked about all year,then is available come championship for a cameo,take MC bride off when 1 thing is with him he'll keep giving his all,and on the S O Neill topic,not physically built enough to play inter county yet,let him develop into the baller he is/will be in the next couple off years,he's playing with in my eyes a set up better suited to him and his football that being cargin seniors wher he gets to express himself

Saying nathin, but Sean og is as physically as well equipped as was Keven Madden or Kevin Brady.....amongst the best wing backs about.....(only imo)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 09, 2023, 11:55:54 AM
O'neill should be starting. Along with cahir donnelly. A bit young yet but hes better than any of the full back line that played yesterday. McCabe done ok but hes better out the field.

EOC & CB, any reason Ciaran bradley doesnt play? Cracking player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 09, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
G+T, agree with some of your comments but Ryan Murray not county standard? Was clearly not 100% fit yesterday. Has been 1 of Antrims most consistent players over the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 09, 2023, 12:04:41 PM
Not sure why geezer but yes a good player surely
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 01:01:41 PM
No doubt about it there's half a dozen good players not on the pitch, but that's nothing new for Antrim.  That's what happens when you are bottom of the pile and don't even have a stadium.
It's exacerbated by the fact McEntee is completely new to the scene so inevitably couldn't have seen the full picture of who is out there. 
The best way forward for me is that he gives the Tailteann his best shot and takes in every game on the senior championship to see who he's missed.
The big upside was that he's a complete clean slate with no axe to grind with anyone, or favours with any aul mates. Stick with it.  If he's only in it for the dollars then that will become evident soon enough, but right now is too soon in my honest opinion. He didn't exactly inherit an amazing set up with great structures and an underage pipeline to die for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 01:01:41 PM
No doubt about it there's half a dozen good players not on the pitch, but that's nothing new for Antrim.  That's what happens when you are bottom of the pile and don't even have a stadium.
It's exacerbated by the fact McEntee is completely new to the scene so inevitably couldn't have seen the full picture of who is out there. 
The best way forward for me is that he gives the Tailteann his best shot and takes in every game on the senior championship to see who he's missed.
The big upside was that he's a complete clean slate with no axe to grind with anyone, or favours with any aul mates. Stick with it.  If he's only in it for the dollars then that will become evident soon enough, but right now is too soon in my honest opinion. He didn't exactly inherit an amazing set up with great structures and an underage pipeline to die for.

Enda had me believing we were going to get promoted to division 2 in the middle of the league last year fast forward 13 months and this guy has me believing we would lose to the majority of division 4 sides in the Tailteann cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 01:01:41 PM
No doubt about it there's half a dozen good players not on the pitch, but that's nothing new for Antrim.  That's what happens when you are bottom of the pile and don't even have a stadium.
It's exacerbated by the fact McEntee is completely new to the scene so inevitably couldn't have seen the full picture of who is out there. 
The best way forward for me is that he gives the Tailteann his best shot and takes in every game on the senior championship to see who he's missed.
The big upside was that he's a complete clean slate with no axe to grind with anyone, or favours with any aul mates. Stick with it.  If he's only in it for the dollars then that will become evident soon enough, but right now is too soon in my honest opinion. He didn't exactly inherit an amazing set up with great structures and an underage pipeline to die for.

Enda had me believing we were going to get promoted to division 2 in the middle of the league last year fast forward 13 months and this guy has me believing we would lose to the majority of division 4 sides in the Tailteann cup
I'm simply arguing it's too soon to condemn him. Not saying you won't be proved right, but next year is a fairer timescale to judge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 09, 2023, 02:26:24 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 09, 2023, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 09, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
So you're not going to say who should be playing that isn't there?

Well, young player of the year 2022 Sean O' Neill has been superb for Cargin all year, outstanding wing back is, in my bubble opinion worth a place.....

Not doubting that CB, that wasn't the question though
You asked who should be playing that wasn't, Sean ONeill is one for definite. Just hope his confidence hasn't been knocked too much by his treatment.  Don't want to be too personal but truthfully Jack Dowling and McLarnon from St Paul's would be reserve players in Cargin, Creggan, Portglenone and Aghagallon.

Hard to argue with that. McEntee wanted big men, even if they were sub standard. Armagh waltzed straight down the heart of Antrims defence yesterday and was it any wonder when there was rarely a centre half back in place. Not starting Eastwood was criminal I thought, made no sense either. So many things were puzzling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 09, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
McEntee watched all of last years Antrim Championship and has been on the pitch with most of the players since July! There's no excuses for selecting the wrong players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 02:41:34 PM
He's in the job 10 months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on April 09, 2023, 03:39:30 PM
Might put my name in the hat for interview county management.

Go round the gyms and get guys 6ft + 90kg + regardless of skill

Apparently that's the way forward ....

Heard this during pre-season and thought surely not, then you see the team selection yesterday and just wow, shocked at how serious he was

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM
Seriously? McCabe Healy McAuley, McCormack, Mc Bride all 6 foot? Or Adam or Eastwood or Dommo.  Did you not think about your post before typing that Saffman?

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday. Outclassed almost everywhere but the bookies had it spot on at minus 9 so no real surprise. The Tailteean Cup is our grade, let's hope to get a good run at it.

And to say Ryan Murray isn't county standard is well off in my book, he's been an excellent servant and definitely still one of the best forwards in the county.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on April 09, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
That's what mcentee said in pre season and very much the reason the teams top scorer is regularly on the bench

Why else are sub standard players starting or on the panel when in reality some of them would struggle to make a top 4 division 1 team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 02:41:34 PM
He's in the job 10 months.

Ok and? Mickey Harte almost got 3 promotions in a row since 2021, Rory Gallagher has 2 promotions and an Ulster title in 3 years, Mcconvile just in the door at Wicklow promotion right away and an 80% win ratio and Davy Burke just in the door at Roscommon finished 3rd in division 1 which is incredible and went to the pre all Ireland favourites backyard yesterday and won. All outside managers and most from a different province aswell maybe just maybe Andy is not very good and it was a dreadful appointment ever thought of that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 10, 2023, 09:32:11 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

Yep, heard Ronan Devlin had a meeting with our boys suggesting targeting the O' Cahan Cup was the plan this year...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

No Agenda.

McKenna cup poor
League poor
Saturday poor

Facts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:54:47 AM
Where you at the games or not to comment on performances?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 10, 2023, 09:32:11 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

Yep, heard Ronan Devlin had a meeting with our boys suggesting targeting the O' Cahan Cup was the plan this year...

So CB you're comparing the number 1 antrim club team to the 20 somethingth ranked county team in the country. Great argument
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 10:07:57 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign.

What a foolish thing to say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2023, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

No Agenda.

McKenna cup poor
League poor
Saturday poor

Facts

Plenty of agenda.

It can be hard to be positive being an Antrim fan sometimes but your negativity and cynicism is next level. Reading this it's like you are revelling in Antrim getting beat with a poor performance. Do you even want to see Antrim do well? I have no idea who you are btw but your posts don't read like you do.

Btw newsflash enda mcginley didn't get us to division two and we got beat by a division four team in the tailteann cup. (That is not a criticism of him but of your argument).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 10:52:51 AM
Still hasn't answered whether he's actually watched an Antrim league match this year either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 10, 2023, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

No Agenda.

McKenna cup poor
League poor
Saturday poor

Facts

Plenty of agenda.

but your negativity and cynicism is next level.

And the toxic positivey is next level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2023, 11:56:43 AM
"toxic positivity". Laughable.

Now answer the man's question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 10, 2023, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

No Agenda.

McKenna cup poor
League poor
Saturday poor

Facts

Plenty of agenda.

It can be hard to be positive being an Antrim fan sometimes but your negativity and cynicism is next level. Reading this it's like you are revelling in Antrim getting beat with a poor performance. Do you even want to see Antrim do well? I have no idea who you are btw but your posts don't read like you do.

Btw newsflash enda mcginley didn't get us to division two and we got beat by a division four team in the tailteann cup. (That is not a criticism of him but of your argument).

Mate I couldnt give a toss if Andy Mcentee, Jim Allistar or Jamie Byrson was managing the Antrim footballers I judge results and performances and this season has been dreadful. Antrim were literally that meme on Saturday of the guy holding the cardboard cut out "our expectations were low but holy f**k". The tactical naivety you wouldn't see from an u12 coach holy christ.. keeping Joe Finnegan on Conor Turbitt for the full game, our D area going unprotected all game and being pure blindly ignorant towards your defence and defensive structures and trying to stop the opposition scoring is laughable and picking lads who clearly arent anywhere near the level for county football and constantly persistently with them. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 10, 2023, 12:45:22 PM
Tbh you have some points but you had the knives out for the man and that is abundantly clear. You have posted that in the aftermath of a game where you seemed to have it lined up beforehand. It really is hard to take you as being objective when you didn't want young players in because it was a losing toxic environment and you are comparing him to someone who didn't get us into division two but they had you believing so you make it sound like that must be better. How does anyone reason with that or take it as objective?

The league was not as poor as you say it was. We are a division three team and when there are quite a few of what would be our better players unavailable then we are just about a division three team as per our league position.

The jury is very much still out yes but I haven't got the knives out yet.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 10, 2023, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 02:41:34 PM
He's in the job 10 months.

Ok and? Mickey Harte almost got 3 promotions in a row since 2021, Rory Gallagher has 2 promotions and an Ulster title in 3 years, Mcconvile just in the door at Wicklow promotion right away and an 80% win ratio and Davy Burke just in the door at Roscommon finished 3rd in division 1 which is incredible and went to the pre all Ireland favourites backyard yesterday and won. All outside managers and most from a different province aswell maybe just maybe Andy is not very good and it was a dreadful appointment ever thought of that?
Mickey Harte - no comparison.  He's one of the most successful managers in history.  Very few of them around.  Although I'm not a fan of his system.
Rory Gallagher - he inherited a serious player base and underage structure and has made the most of it. Puke football though.
Davy Burke - Has done amazing but Roscommon are a seriously proud county and turn up in the championship every year.  Our players have lost that tradition completely.
Oisin - could turn out to be a great manager.  Time will tell.  Got Wicklow playing attacking football and it's been good enough for division 4.  Fair play.

So who knows with McEntee, he's from solid GAA pedigree but has his work cut out with Antrim.  He's only scratched the surface.  Too early to rubbish him, but we'd all like to see changes and a good run in the TC.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 10, 2023, 02:19:53 PM
The only game I missed this year was Longford away been to all games yes with a bit of luck we'd be in division 2 in saying that could easily be in division 4 right now all very fine margins.
The game on Saturday was a shambles two big men standing inside and no service then they came out to win their own ball then we'd no one inside ,mcBride tried hard as did Jordan always Healy&stewart very good I just feel there was no real structure to the side.losing Dermot with the jaw was a big blow in terms of balance on the side IMO better going with the youngsters like Ryan mcQuillan tiernan McCormick ,Cahir Donnelly,connal mcGirr,Dan mcNicholl&Conhuir Johnston and giving them time to adjust to county senior football even if it means no progress for a couple of years,we are light years behind everyone in terms of underage structures although good work going in on that front now also
For me we seemed to go out very very flat and no bite or badness for the heat of championship battle you always need one or two dogs and we don't seem to have them anymore.there is talent coming through but may just take time and patience.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 10, 2023, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 02:41:34 PM
He's in the job 10 months.

Ok and? Mickey Harte almost got 3 promotions in a row since 2021, Rory Gallagher has 2 promotions and an Ulster title in 3 years, Mcconvile just in the door at Wicklow promotion right away and an 80% win ratio and Davy Burke just in the door at Roscommon finished 3rd in division 1 which is incredible and went to the pre all Ireland favourites backyard yesterday and won. All outside managers and most from a different province aswell maybe just maybe Andy is not very good and it was a dreadful appointment ever thought of that?
Mickey Harte - no comparison.  He's one of the most successful managers in history.  Very few of them around.  Although I'm not a fan of his system.
Rory Gallagher - he inherited a serious player base and underage structure and has made the most of it. Puke football though.
Davy Burke - Has done amazing but Roscommon are a seriously proud county and turn up in the championship every year.  Our players have lost that tradition completely.
Oisin - could turn out to be a great manager.  Time will tell.  Got Wicklow playing attacking football and it's been good enough for division 4.  Fair play.

So who knows with McEntee, he's from solid GAA pedigree but has his work cut out with Antrim.  He's only scratched the surface.  Too early to rubbish him, but we'd all like to see changes and a good run in the TC.

Puke football and not a fan of his system 😹😹😹 I'd rather we played "winning" puke football than the naive rubbish we play currently and as the guy above says where was the intensity the huger on Saturday?This team feels and felt like they are just going through the motions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 10, 2023, 05:49:11 PM
If we played puke football you'd be the first to complain.  But anyway each to their own. I've said my piece, I'd prefer to give McEntee more time. It'll probably end in failure, but that would be nothing new for us.  Plenty of room on the Board for other opinions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on April 10, 2023, 05:52:54 PM
Brendan Crossan reckons it was a "gutsy" display  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 05:55:18 PM
The bank balance will be bulging this week after their latest in-depth take on Saturday's game

I'm sure the subscribers will be chomping at the bit to hear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 10, 2023, 10:17:56 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 10, 2023, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 09, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 09, 2023, 07:01:58 PM

Truth is we were disappointing yesterday.

Change the word yesterday to all year and you are spot on

Genuinely realisticsaff fair play for promoting Antrim club football on the podcast. I think it's great. But to admit you haven't went to any of the county games this year on one hand, then batter performances on the other... well it doesn't add up does it? Outside of the Westmeath and Longford game which was a dead rubber, performances were encouraging, particularly against 3 of the best teams in the league. But sure push your own agenda.

No dressing up Saturday. Poor display. Those two line ups are on completely different levels of quality and that's the reality. Tailteann cup will be better, and so will next years league campaign. Give things a chance and get behind it.

No Agenda.

McKenna cup poor
League poor
Saturday poor

Facts

Plenty of agenda.

It can be hard to be positive being an Antrim fan sometimes but your negativity and cynicism is next level. Reading this it's like you are revelling in Antrim getting beat with a poor performance. Do you even want to see Antrim do well? I have no idea who you are btw but your posts don't read like you do.

Btw newsflash enda mcginley didn't get us to division two and we got beat by a division four team in the tailteann cup. (That is not a criticism of him but of your argument).

Mate I couldnt give a toss if Andy Mcentee, Jim Allistar or Jamie Byrson was managing the Antrim footballers *I judge results and performances* and this season has been dreadful. Antrim were literally that meme on Saturday of the guy holding the cardboard cut out "our expectations were low but holy f**k". The tactical naivety you wouldn't see from an u12 coach holy christ.. keeping Joe Finnegan on Conor Turbitt for the full game, our D area going unprotected all game and being pure blindly ignorant towards your defence and defensive structures and trying to stop the opposition scoring is laughable and picking lads who clearly arent anywhere near the level for county football and constantly persistently with them.

How do you judge performances when you haven't seen them perform  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 10, 2023, 05:52:54 PM
Brendan Crossan reckons it was a "gutsy" display  :o

I would expect nothing less from Brendan Crossan lick arse get arse just ask MR I wonder what Division 1 game he's got on Wednesday night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 10, 2023, 07:33:25 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 10, 2023, 05:52:54 PM
Brendan Crossan reckons it was a "gutsy" display  :o

I would expect nothing less from Brendan Crossan lick arse get arse just ask MR I wonder what Division 1 game he's got on Wednesday night

What has MR2 ever done to you? Did he book or send you off when you were kicking Div1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 07:44:55 PM
I'd say he's not played senior never mind div 1

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:27:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 07:44:55 PM
I'd say he's not played senior never mind div 1

Cushendall Loughgiel yesterday
Cargin game Wednesday night
Loughgiel again on Sunday

Tumelty similar too..use 2 boys must have sore lips and must take an arse cheek each too kiss. I'm genuinely intrigued when was the last time one of the belfast boys club did a game outside Division 1 or is the egos that big you cant be seen refereeing a Division 3 game for example. How does a young referee get up the ladder to get eventually get division 1 games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:31:56 PM
Under 15b league on Thursday night last but hey you ain't smart enough to check before talking shite!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:31:56 PM
Under 15b league on Thursday night last but hey you ain't smart enough to check before talking shite!

How does a young aspiring referee like myself become a Division 1 referee?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:31:56 PM
Under 15b league on Thursday night last but hey you ain't smart enough to check before talking shite!

How does a young aspiring referee like myself become a Division 1 referee?

Do the course first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:42:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:31:56 PM
Under 15b league on Thursday night last but hey you ain't smart enough to check before talking shite!

How does a young aspiring referee like myself become a Division 1 referee?

Do the course first

I've done it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:42:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2023, 09:31:56 PM
Under 15b league on Thursday night last but hey you ain't smart enough to check before talking shite!

How does a young aspiring referee like myself become a Division 1 referee?

Do the course first

I've done it

I only got kids games when I started 14 years ago.. it takes time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 11, 2023, 02:37:10 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 10, 2023, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 10, 2023, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 09, 2023, 02:41:34 PM
He's in the job 10 months.

Ok and? Mickey Harte almost got 3 promotions in a row since 2021, Rory Gallagher has 2 promotions and an Ulster title in 3 years, Mcconvile just in the door at Wicklow promotion right away and an 80% win ratio and Davy Burke just in the door at Roscommon finished 3rd in division 1 which is incredible and went to the pre all Ireland favourites backyard yesterday and won. All outside managers and most from a different province aswell maybe just maybe Andy is not very good and it was a dreadful appointment ever thought of that?
Mickey Harte - no comparison.  He's one of the most successful managers in history.  Very few of them around.  Although I'm not a fan of his system.
Rory Gallagher - he inherited a serious player base and underage structure and has made the most of it. Puke football though.
Davy Burke - Has done amazing but Roscommon are a seriously proud county and turn up in the championship every year.  Our players have lost that tradition completely.
Oisin - could turn out to be a great manager.  Time will tell.  Got Wicklow playing attacking football and it's been good enough for division 4.  Fair play.

So who knows with McEntee, he's from solid GAA pedigree but has his work cut out with Antrim.  He's only scratched the surface.  Too early to rubbish him, but we'd all like to see changes and a good run in the TC.


Derry play puke football? Really? They were in the doldrums before gallagher took over. They were a county with all the potential in the world with no direction. IMO, gallagher has done a fantastic job. Their style of play suits the players they have. Tough team,  physical run game. Wouldnt by no means call it puke football given the scores they put up. They are a well oiled machine with some top class footballers that would grace any team in ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 11, 2023, 02:38:56 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2023, 10:29:03 AM
The negativity recently introduced here is truly shocking, a wee clique with nothing good to say about anything and trying hard to make a living out of running down volunteers and amateur sportsmen. I think the vast majority here share that view and agree its cheap nasty and offensive.

Sure, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it needs to be balanced to have any credibility. The squads Enda and Andy inherited were like night and day. Enda had 19 in from Creggan and Cargin at one stage, and somehow its all Andys fault three quarters of them didn't find a way back, mostly either voluntarily or because of injury. It's not like Andy hunted them down the road, but some doing their best to use this as a stick to beat him.

EOC, you're right. There are half a dozen gooduns coming through that will offer some quality alternatives, Sean O Callaghan (under 20 captain picked up injury) and Calum Higgins can be added to that list, but they are mostly a year orctwo early with agreed exception of Sean O Neill and Ryan McQuillan.

I went to the game with little expectation as that's not the grade we are in. Would you put a handicapped chaser into the Gold Cup at level weights? No you wouldn't. But I'd expect to be competitive in Div 3 (and we were with a couple of exceptions) and in the Tailteean Cup. But if I see a Div 4 team toying with us at 11 points up at half time, and a dressing room that's lost its way, it will be called out for what it is.

That was last year. Andy has done OK with a depleted squad, but needs to be getting a response out if what he has. Squad back out this weekend for in house games so that work is now commencing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2023, 11:32:10 AM
Balanced critique is welcomed by most on here, likewise cheap nasty shots need to be called out for what they are. RS, you've done a refereeing course, that's genuinely good. Work your way through the ranks and get a bit of experience and of you're good at the job the bigger gigs will follow. We all need refs or we can pack it all in!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2023, 12:17:30 PM
100% it's a cut throat business and in interests of consistency I was first to doubt EMG and called ot out here. Full panel to choose from, two very high profile assistants in SK and SON. But it wasn't working, defensively open house, upfront nothing joining up, rumours management and assistants not communicating, and dressing room all over the place. Wasn't long till results reflected that.

Yes Saturday was poor, I could list a few things that might have made it better, but not judging it as we rarely show up in Ulstet championship, for any manager.

You have knife out way too early though. Dermot Adam Jamie a fit Ryan, and one or two of the young guns forcing  their way in with in house performance would make for interesting choices, and on that we could make a more informed judgement call on our wellbeing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 01:25:04 PM
So what lines up as playing the players who are up to the standard RS? No point harking on about lack of Cargin or Creggan players lad. The facts are that Ricky Johnston, Kevin O'Boyle, Crozier, Laverty, the McCanns etc are all still the main men in their clubs. None of them are coming out of inter county retirement, nor should they. Outside of those players, who from Creggan/Cargin is ready to start in the current Antrim side and where? At least make an effort to state your best team selection. Live up to your name and make it 'realistic'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 11, 2023, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 01:25:04 PM
So what lines up as playing the players who are up to the standard RS? No point harking on about lack of Cargin or Creggan players lad. The facts are that Ricky Johnston, Kevin O'Boyle, Crozier, Laverty, the McCanns etc are all still the main men in their clubs. None of them are coming out of inter county retirement, nor should they. Outside of those players, who from Creggan/Cargin is ready to start in the current Antrim side and where? At least make an effort to state your best team selection. Live up to your name and make it 'realistic'.

Not doing this NSS everyone was saying the bench was better than the starting team that's a starting point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 11, 2023, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 12:17:30 PM
100% it's a cut throat business and in interests of consistency I was first to doubt EMG and called ot out here. Full panel to choose from, two very high profile assistants in SK and SON. But it wasn't working, defensively open house, upfront nothing joining up, rumours management and assistants not communicating, and dressing room all over the place. Wasn't long till results reflected that.

Yes Saturday was poor, I could list a few things that might have made it better, but not judging it as we rarely show up in Ulstet championship, for any manager.

You have knife out way too early though. Dermot Adam Jamie a fit Ryan, and one or two of the young guns forcing  their way in with in house performance would make for interesting choices, and on that we could make a more informed judgement call on our wellbeing.

I know we aren't the best side in the country but that felt like a challenge game on Saturday. We are far far to easy to play against pure and simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 11, 2023, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 01:25:04 PM
So what lines up as playing the players who are up to the standard RS? No point harking on about lack of Cargin or Creggan players lad. The facts are that Ricky Johnston, Kevin O'Boyle, Crozier, Laverty, the McCanns etc are all still the main men in their clubs. None of them are coming out of inter county retirement, nor should they. Outside of those players, who from Creggan/Cargin is ready to start in the current Antrim side and where? At least make an effort to state your best team selection. Live up to your name and make it 'realistic'.

Not doing this NSS everyone was saying the bench was better than the starting team that's a starting point.

Wow. Really? The bench was Luke Mullholland, B McCormick, D Lynch, S O'Neill, R. Boyle, O Lenehan, Dowling, McEnhill, P Finnegan. Some decent players there but better than the 15 listed? I don't think so. Then there was Loughran and Eastwood who I do think should have started ahead of mclarnon and Creggan McCann.

Make no mistake, i tip my hat to all of the lads above for their commitment to the cause this year. There's not a lot of experienced campaigners at this level there don't forget. So the experience this year will be a big building block for a lot of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 11, 2023, 01:54:08 PM
Why is the club championship draw during a full round of matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2023, 02:06:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 12:17:30 PM

Yes Saturday was poor, I could list a few things that might have made it better, but not judging it as we rarely show up in Ulster championship, for any manager.


I think this is part of the problem BS, we are giving Antrim players an excuse by saying we will look at them properly in a 2nd rate competition.     We all have our opinions on the team quality and have we progressed at all but that Antrim team looked like they believed they shouldn't have been on the same pitch as Armagh. They were already beaten before they started and had the Tailteann Cup in their heads.  For this to be the most physically big Antrim team in years, they were like lambs out there.  Wasn't much blood and thunder about them.  We can only be judged on the Ulster Championship, and IMO the Tailteann is an unwelcome excuse that has became available. 

The knives aren't out for Andy, people are naturally disappointed in that showing on Saturday, and yes it was that bad but seeing as we are now stuck in the Tailteann, can we look at bringing forward the young guns and play a team with all our potential talents included? 

I wont be judging Andy on the Tailteann just as I wouldn't be judging Creggan on how they do in the O'Cahon Cup.  He has nothing to lose in my eyes so he is as well getting those hopefuls onto a pitch and seeing how they fare out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 11, 2023, 02:06:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 12:17:30 PM

Yes Saturday was poor, I could list a few things that might have made it better, but not judging it as we rarely show up in Ulster championship, for any manager.


I think this is part of the problem BS, we are giving Antrim players an excuse by saying we will look at them properly in a 2nd rate competition.     We all have our opinions on the team quality and have we progressed at all but that Antrim team looked like they believed they shouldn't have been on the same pitch as Armagh. They were already beaten before they started and had the Tailteann Cup in their heads.  For this to be the most physically big Antrim team in years, they were like lambs out there.  Wasn't much blood and thunder about them.  We can only be judged on the Ulster Championship, and IMO the Tailteann is an unwelcome excuse that has became available. 

The knives aren't out for Andy, people are naturally disappointed in that showing on Saturday, and yes it was that bad but seeing as we are now stuck in the Tailteann, can we look at bringing forward the young guns and play a team with all our potential talents included? 

I wont be judging Andy on the Tailteann just as I wouldn't be judging Creggan on how they do in the O'Cahon Cup.  He has nothing to lose in my eyes so he is as well getting those hopefuls onto a pitch and seeing how they fare out.

Right, again... what does this team look like? What team would you field Spike?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2023, 02:33:45 PM
There's absolutely no doubt Saturday was a tame performance Spike, and not a glove laid in anger. Played like a friendly and that aspect was very disappointing.

But saying a national competition with 16 counties in it, with finals played at Croke Park in a competition that the GAA is working to restore some necessary prestige to, is comparable to a single county regional competition played in front of a hundred people is plain nonsense imo.

Let's give the Tailteean Cup a rattle, and expect us to Ultra competitive in it, and if we are not then we can all justifiably call it for what it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2023, 02:48:28 PM
I see your point BS but not one person in Antrim will be in uproar at Tailteann Cup failure. The same as not one person in Creggan will shed a tear at not winning the O'Cahon Cup.   

Of course lets give it a go now that we are in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2023, 03:04:35 PM

Right, again... what does this team look like? What team would you field Spike?
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To avoid getting personal, i would call up the full Creggan, Cargin, Aghagallon, Portglenone, St Johns and Lamh Dhearg squads to Corrigan and have them stand around the perimeter of the pitch.

I would then leave 15 jerseys in the centre of the pitch. 

On the whistle I would blow for the Battle Royale and let it commence. I would then go and stand at the bar in the St Johns Clubhouse and order a pint. The men coming back to the bar with a jersey to me start in the Tailteann Cup.

Thats how high a stock I take from Antrim's performance in it. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 03:48:29 PM
"  can we look at bringing forward the young guns and play a team with all our potential talents included? "

So who are the young guns, the potential talents, you want to see fielded?

The throw away statements on here are a joke. Quick to point out the faults and nothing offered in terms of a fix. Same old same old eh.   :-X ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2023, 04:16:54 PM
Sure it looks like you wouldn't change much anyway.  Obviously happy with Saturdays team.  If you're happy with that then thats fine, entitled to your opinion of course. 

If you scroll back a few pages you will find find much hearty positivity and names from the u20 team that played against Donegal.  Pop back a page to your own post and you will find some benchwarmers that had little input into Saturday's dross.  For that little sprinkle of grey haired experience you could again refer to your own post about older players.

Posters got their knuckles wrapped for being personal about the players so there are some suggestions, many by your own hand.  Some can be very negative on here but as a beacon of upbeat positivity I would say we are in the very lucky position of being a county able to field a full team of alternative players that would improve on Saturdays showing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2023, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

That sounds like a tweak to my earlier recommendation about Corrigan BS  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 04:21:12 PM
You're turning it back on me, I'm just asking posters to state alternatives if they don't agree with a selection or system, but rarely does anyone post such. I try to.  I have been critical too, and I'm not happy that we're not competitive in Ulster yet. I was fuming at the Westmeath shambles, but can take it for what it was. A freak performance and result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 04:22:42 PM
With reference to the older players, I'd love if those names wanted to come back to the fold, but they should have to and owe the County nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 04:41:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

Can't argue with that. Spike has reminded me, what is the state of play with
Michael and Tomas McCann? Are they returning to the panel when
recovered or are they now retired?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 11, 2023, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 11, 2023, 04:41:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

Can’t argue with that. Spike has reminded me, what is the state of play with
Michael and Tomas McCann? Are they returning to the panel when
recovered or are they now retired?

Cannot speak for Mick or Tomas although I do speak to them on a regular basis but I do know both have drawers full of O'Cathain cup as well as Div one league medals in company, as a plentiful haul of championship medals

You think they are gonna go in search of another award for a secondary competition....??

IMO....doubt it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 11, 2023, 06:39:41 PM
Kobo, Justy and James Laverty had terrific seasons last year but I suppose they are in the same boat with drawerfuls of medals too, but CB never seems to mention them despite them being a bit younger. Which is fair enough, they owe nothing and if its not for them any longer then Andy needs to throw his net a bit wider.

Which is the point I have been making all along about a team in transition. How people can't see that is beyond me! And with that in mind maybe they punched above their weight in Div 3, given they were well ahead at stages of Down and Fermanagh too.

Anyway I think all these points have been well enough covered at this point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 11, 2023, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 11, 2023, 06:39:41 PM
Kobo, Justy and James Laverty had terrific seasons last year but I suppose they are in the same boat with drawerfuls of medals too, but CB never seems to mention them despite them being a bit younger. Which is fair enough, they owe nothing and if its not for them any longer then Andy needs to throw his net a bit wider.

Which is the point I have been making all along about a team in transition. How people can't see that is beyond me! And with that in mind maybe they punched above their weight in Div 3, given they were well ahead at stages of Down and Fermanagh too.

Anyway I think all these points have been well enough covered at this point.

Did not see any posts relative to James, Kevin, Justin, John Carron, or big Gerard either.....but guess would be a similar reply..........

Drawers full all round..........







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 11, 2023, 07:14:40 PM
I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 11, 2023, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 11, 2023, 07:14:40 PM
I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told

Not sure 11 5 is considered overly heavy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 11, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
Scoring over twice what your opponents does imo is a game that's not even close.  But even if you think it isn't, my point still stands about the team being average/no better than any other recent team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2023, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 11, 2023, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 11, 2023, 07:14:40 PM
I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told

Not sure 11 5 is considered overly heavy

How many from play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 11, 2023, 08:35:51 PM
If we had the best 30 footballers in Antrim on a panel, the best coach around coaching them, where would we be? Our history suggests probably not much further forward than where we are now. Division 2 maybe if all the stars alligned?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 11, 2023, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 11, 2023, 08:35:51 PM
If we had the best 30 footballers in Antrim on a panel, the best coach around coaching them, where would we be? Our history suggests probably not much further forward than where we are now. Division 2 maybe if all the stars alligned?

Antrim, as from this thread, always in trouble.

No sense of agreement.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on April 11, 2023, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2023, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 11, 2023, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 11, 2023, 07:14:40 PM
I wish people would stop referencing the u20 team as if they were this exceptional team.  They lost to a average donegal team who lost heavily to derry.  There hasn't been a 'decent' antrim youth team since 06 if truth be told

Not sure 11 5 is considered overly heavy

How many from play?
7 from 11 from play for Derry (who were without Eoin McEvoy & Lachlan Murray ), Donegal had an ultra defensive set up the whole game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 11, 2023, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 11, 2023, 08:35:51 PM
If we had the best 30 footballers in Antrim on a panel, the best coach around coaching them, where would we be? Our history suggests probably not much further forward than where we are now. Division 2 maybe if all the stars alligned?
If you did all the 'system' stuff - everyone behind the ball, win it back, pass it laterally - you could be a hard to watch high Div 2.  That's what Derry have done.  With a better player base they've squeezed an Ulster title out of it which has delighted their fans but their project is going to run out of road.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on April 12, 2023, 01:25:13 AM
What else would the purpose of the project be other than to win. D4,D3, D2 and now into D1, with an Ulster title, an All Ireland semifinal and most importantly a young team to be backboned with more quality youth coming. Wtf is your idea of a 'project'?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 12, 2023, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on April 12, 2023, 01:25:13 AM
What else would the purpose of the project be other than to win. D4,D3, D2 and now into D1, with an Ulster title, an All Ireland semifinal and most importantly a young team to be backboned with more quality youth coming. Wtf is your idea of a 'project'?

Play well for spells against opposition then eventually lose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 12, 2023, 10:58:03 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on April 12, 2023, 01:25:13 AM
What else would the purpose of the project be other than to win. D4,D3, D2 and now into D1, with an Ulster title, an All Ireland semifinal and most importantly a young team to be backboned with more quality youth coming. Wtf is your idea of a 'project'?
I said the project is going to run out of road.  Everything that can be achieved has been achieved, congratulations on that.  But Gallagher's system will only take you so far and I predict that the star will fade as people get frustrated by the style of play and a belief that the tremendous young footballers in the county can achieve more if they were unleashed rather than locked into a robotic system.  Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2023, 11:08:26 AM
No matter what though the life he has put back into Derry football is remarkable. It wasn't in a good place (at county more than club).

We have won about 4 games in 40 years in ulster(a couple of draws too) so I don't think we can turn up our noses at a "B" competition. It will be interesting to see where we go from here. Maybe it will be a disaster or maybe it won't but it's the level we should be playing at and it's the level that will give us competitive games to it'll be interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2023, 11:45:59 AM
As a half and halfer (Antrim & Derry), it is ridiculous to me to see comments belittling Derrys rise and drawing comparison to Antrim. It shows the complete state this thread has become. Criticising Gallaghers 'system'. Give your heads a wobble and go and watch football matches rather than spout second hand trash you try to pass off as your own. There used to be half a dozen or so sensible and balanced posters on here, now it's the sensationalist brigade.

Anyway. Predictions tonight:

Cargin +7
St.Johns + 5
St.Galls + 3
Creggan + 7
Aghagallon + 5
PG1 + 8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 12, 2023, 12:07:45 PM
Fergal Hogan retiring from refereeing because he didn't feel he got enough of the games he deserved 😂. Who knew referees had such big egos 😳
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 12, 2023, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2023, 11:45:59 AM
As a half and halfer (Antrim & Derry), it is ridiculous to me to see comments belittling Derrys rise and drawing comparison to Antrim. It shows the complete state this thread has become. Criticising Gallaghers 'system'. Give your heads a wobble and go and watch football matches rather than spout second hand trash you try to pass off as your own. There used to be half a dozen or so sensible and balanced posters on here, now it's the sensationalist brigade.

Anyway. Predictions tonight:

Cargin +7
St.Johns + 5
St.Galls + 3
Creggan + 7
Aghagallon + 5
PG1 + 8
If we don't like Rory Gallagher's style of play and think ultimately it has its limitations, are we not allowed to say so?  I thought this was a forum for debate and airing views.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 12, 2023, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 12, 2023, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 12, 2023, 11:45:59 AM
As a half and halfer (Antrim & Derry), it is ridiculous to me to see comments belittling Derrys rise and drawing comparison to Antrim. It shows the complete state this thread has become. Criticising Gallaghers 'system'. Give your heads a wobble and go and watch football matches rather than spout second hand trash you try to pass off as your own. There used to be half a dozen or so sensible and balanced posters on here, now it's the sensationalist brigade.

Anyway. Predictions tonight:

Cargin +7
St.Johns + 5
St.Galls + 3
Creggan + 7
Aghagallon + 5
PG1 + 8
If we don't like Rory Gallagher's style of play and think ultimately it has its limitations, are we not allowed to say so?  I thought this was a forum for debate and airing views.

Unfortunately not bud. Unless it's positive you can't voice an opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 12, 2023, 12:46:23 PM
To call Derrys style of play puke football is lazy. Go back and watch Dublin when they dominated. Always had plenty behind the ball. All worked tirelessly for the team. The difference is that Dublin had 6 quality forwards with more in reserve. Everyone just turned a blind eye to it as they had outrageously good forwards. Derry have Mcguigan. The rest are good but could you rely on the rest to get consistent scores if mcguigan was injured? No.

IMO, gallaghers style if perfect for what Derry have. Tough, physical runners who can break lines at will. Ciaran Mcfaul back in the fold will only add to it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2023, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 12, 2023, 12:07:45 PM
Fergal Hogan retiring from refereeing because he didn't feel he got enough of the games he deserved 😂. Who knew referees had such big egos 😳

I don't think its down to ego to be fair, if lads were getting games without having passed the recent fitness test it would show that the selection process is not following the correct procedure at that level. The interview below gives a different view to your post ;)

Three-time All-Ireland hurling final referee Fergal Horgan has announced his retirement from inter-county refereeing with immediate effect due to "lack of appointments" in recent years.

The Tipperary official, who oversaw the 2017, 2020 and 2021 All-Ireland deciders, confirmed his retirement in an interview with Tipperary Mid-West Radio this evening, citing his annoyance with the current appointments process.

Horgan, who also took charge of the Kilkenny-Clare AI SHC semi-final last July, claimed that Munster officials were losing out and amid what he suggested was a drive to promote referees from Leinster and Connacht.

Officials from Galway and Leinster were in the middle for the recent Allianz Hurling League Division 1 semi-finals and final.

Horgan also suggested that some referees had recently been handed games despite failing fitness tests.

"It's disappointing from my point of view," he said. "I've worked hard over the past few years and haven't got the appointments from Croke Park that I thought I should have got.

"No one has a right to get any match I suppose but in the last few weeks, we've seen referees getting appointments that didn't pass the fitness test. That's not going down well with referees."

Horgan's last game at national level was the Division 1 meeting between Waterford and Antrim on 26 February. He also refereed Cork's win over Limerick in round one.

He insisted that his decision was final and that he felt there was not enough support for GAA referees.

"I did love refereeing. But I couldn't see why anyone would take up refereeing, unfortunately. At the top level you get no support.

"Referees are very uneasy. I'm one of the referees that have stepped away. It's a big decision for me to step away.

"I know for a fact that a lot of the referees in football and hurling are not happy with the way things are going at the moment. I can see why. Personally, I think it's a farce what's going on there.

"I'm 100% finished. I'm at ease now. I got no contact from Croke Park the last few weeks and that just shows me where I stand."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2023, 01:34:41 PM
Would Rory Gallagher be given time to work in Antrim? Andy McEntee has been here for 6/8 months and already a few people what rid of him.

I honestly don't know what people want. McEntee comes with an experience CV at a high level. The flip side was Enda McGinley, no managerial experience at inter county level and some other people wanted him away.

I've no allegiance to anybody but I think some people on here need to give their head a wobble ffs.

Take the City V Country debate outta it and play the ball and not the man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 12, 2023, 01:42:09 PM
Plain and simple big names always start come championship having no track record of producing the goods in big championship games. different management same old antrim. what even is the incentive to train for antrim 5 times a week to be put on the bench for championship, different if it was Derry in the Fball or Limerick in the Hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2023, 01:44:54 PM
Could be worse, could be Leitrim  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 12, 2023, 01:56:39 PM
Which Antrim players would get in Armagh's 26?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 12, 2023, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 12, 2023, 01:56:39 PM
Which Antrim players would get in Armagh's 26?

Small, stewart, Healy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2023, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2023, 01:44:54 PM
Could be worse, could be Leitrim  ;)

They beat us last year...

I did feel sorry for them as they have probably never got so much publicity and Andy Moran actually isn't doing too bad a job...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2023, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2023, 01:44:54 PM
Could be worse, could be Leitrim  ;)

They beat us last year...

I did feel sorry for them as they have probably never got so much publicity and Andy Moran actually isn't doing too bad a job...

Yeah they did beat us and looked good too but only as good as your last game!  And they will take some flack for that as they could have, could have been playing in a final the way the draw has opened up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2023, 02:12:24 PM
If you look at that new york though there's a lot of talent in it too and in reality Leitrim should have won in normal time. Anyway I digress...

If we got them it'd be a tough game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 12, 2023, 02:34:35 PM
I assume county players have been released to play tonight and for the next few weeks?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2023, 03:29:24 PM
Quote from: ck on April 12, 2023, 02:34:35 PM
I assume county players have been released to play tonight and for the next few weeks?

Earplugs at the ready ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 12, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on April 12, 2023, 12:46:23 PM
To call Derrys style of play puke football is lazy. Go back and watch Dublin when they dominated. Always had plenty behind the ball. All worked tirelessly for the team. The difference is that Dublin had 6 quality forwards with more in reserve. Everyone just turned a blind eye to it as they had outrageously good forwards. Derry have Mcguigan. The rest are good but could you rely on the rest to get consistent scores if mcguigan was injured? No.

IMO, gallaghers style if perfect for what Derry have. Tough, physical runners who can break lines at will. Ciaran Mcfaul back in the fold will only add to it.
It's not a bit lazy.  It's puke to watch, slow, lateral boring crap.  But to be fair only a version of what a lot of county teams serve up.  There's a whole other thread on the state of football, no point in going back over it all again here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on April 12, 2023, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 12, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on April 12, 2023, 12:46:23 PM
To call Derrys style of play puke football is lazy. Go back and watch Dublin when they dominated. Always had plenty behind the ball. All worked tirelessly for the team. The difference is that Dublin had 6 quality forwards with more in reserve. Everyone just turned a blind eye to it as they had outrageously good forwards. Derry have Mcguigan. The rest are good but could you rely on the rest to get consistent scores if mcguigan was injured? No.

IMO, gallaghers style if perfect for what Derry have. Tough, physical runners who can break lines at will. Ciaran Mcfaul back in the fold will only add to it.
It's not a bit lazy.  It's puke to watch, slow, lateral boring crap.  But to be fair only a version of what a lot of county teams serve up.  There's a whole other thread on the state of football, no point in going back over it all again here.
It is lazy. In fact, Derry clearly don't want to move laterally if you actually watch them and only do so to find create space or allow players to filter into forward positions if the other team have men back. They thrive on getting their athletic players running past men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on April 12, 2023, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 12, 2023, 01:56:39 PM
Which Antrim players would get in Armagh's 26?

At the moment probably none on 1st 15. Might be the odd close call. Your man might be in contention for the FF slot and Turbo moved to the corner but given he missed out on a year or 2 of inter County S&C he might not be at the level yet and would need to serve a year or 2 getting to the level. Might get 1 or 2 on the bench.

Most of that Armagh team bar 1 or 2 have 3, 4, 5 plus years of high level conditioning,  a couple of years Div 1 experience.

Do we have players who could be developed to get on the team YES

5 or 6 with a few years high level conditioning, development. tactical discipline etc would be very strong contenders. Might not start but would be close



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 12, 2023, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 12, 2023, 01:42:09 PM
Plain and simple big names always start come championship having no track record of producing the goods in big championship games. different management same old antrim. what even is the incentive to train for antrim 5 times a week to be put on the bench for championship, different if it was Derry in the Fball or Limerick in the Hurling.

Who are the big names? Don't actually think we have any big name. If Mick or Thomas had been parachuted in out of the blue I would have agreed with you but think most of that team has been training/playing away in the league if not injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 12, 2023, 10:40:29 PM
SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP GROUPS

GROUP 1
Cargin
St Johns
Rossa

GROUP 2
Portglenone
Ahoghil
Lamh Dhearg
St Endas

GROUP 3
Creggan
St Galls
Dunloy

GROUP 4
Aghagallon
St Brigids
Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 12, 2023, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: ck on April 12, 2023, 10:40:29 PM
SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP GROUPS

GROUP 1
Cargin
St Johns
Rossa

GROUP 2
Portglenone
Ahoghil
Lamh Dhearg
St Endas

GROUP 3
Creggan
St Galls
Dunloy

GROUP 4
Aghagallon
St Brigids
Moneyglass

What way do the 1/4 finals go is it group 1 versus group 3 and 2 versus 4 or open draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 12, 2023, 11:19:46 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on April 12, 2023, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: ck on April 12, 2023, 10:40:29 PM
SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP GROUPS

GROUP 1
Cargin
St Johns
Rossa

GROUP 2
Portglenone
Ahoghil
Lamh Dhearg
St Endas

GROUP 3
Creggan
St Galls
Dunloy

GROUP 4
Aghagallon
St Brigids
Moneyglass

What way do the 1/4 finals go is it group 1 versus group 3 and 2 versus 4 or open draw
Qtrs
A .Winner gp 1 v Runner up gp4
B. W2 v R up 3
C. W3 v R up 2
D. W4 v R up 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 12, 2023, 11:25:54 PM
Quote from: ck on April 12, 2023, 10:40:29 PM
SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP GROUPS

GROUP 1
Cargin
St Johns
Rossa

GROUP 2
Portglenone
Ahoghil
Lamh Dhearg
St Endas

GROUP 3
Creggan
St Galls
Dunloy

GROUP 4
Aghagallon
St Brigids
Moneyglass

Would there not be another 3 teams in Antrim to go senior and fill out the other 3groups to 4 teams each?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2023, 11:33:09 PM
Randalstown should also be in Group 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 13, 2023, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on April 12, 2023, 11:25:54 PM
Quote from: ck on April 12, 2023, 10:40:29 PM
SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP GROUPS

GROUP 1
Cargin
St Johns
Rossa

GROUP 2
Portglenone
Ahoghil
Lamh Dhearg
St Endas

GROUP 3
Creggan
St Galls
Dunloy

GROUP 4
Aghagallon
St Brigids
Moneyglass

Would there not be another 3 teams in Antrim to go senior and fill out the other 3groups to 4 teams each?

In all honesty, I think there's probably too many clubs deemed senior as it is in Antrim without diluting the quality further.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 13, 2023, 06:57:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2023, 11:33:09 PM
Randalstown should also be in Group 1

Correct. Tough group!

Tbh I think this group format has had its day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 13, 2023, 08:25:47 AM
What was the seeding system employed...?
The bye law as passed years since was top for in previous years league div one seeded 1-4....
That doesn't seem the case....wonder when the bye law was changed, which convention......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 13, 2023, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 13, 2023, 08:25:47 AM
What was the seeding system employed...?
The bye law as passed years since was top for in previous years league div one seeded 1-4....
That doesn't seem the case....wonder when the bye law was changed, which convention......?

I think it should revert to straight knockout- there is always dead rubbers in the group format
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 13, 2023, 08:50:53 AM
Always been the 4 previous year semi finalists for as long as I remember.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 08:51:31 AM
Has it not been last 4 in championship seeded for few years now cb
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 13, 2023, 09:01:54 AM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 08:51:31 AM
Has it not been last 4 in championship seeded for few years now cb

Been a while since I was at a draw....bye law must have been amended....

But why no 'live stream' this time.......?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on April 13, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on April 13, 2023, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 13, 2023, 08:25:47 AM
What was the seeding system employed...?
The bye law as passed years since was top for in previous years league div one seeded 1-4....
That doesn't seem the case....wonder when the bye law was changed, which convention......?

I think it should revert to straight knockout- there is always dead rubbers in the group format

Straight knock out and if they really want to give clubs more than 1 game throw in a back door system, but the groups are terrible and as you say always have dead rubbers at least with straight knock out and a 2nd bite at the cherry there's no proper dead rubbers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2023, 09:17:06 AM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 08:51:31 AM
Has it not been last 4 in championship seeded for few years now cb




Seems to have been done with 2021 championship standings and not 2022
Cargin should be in group with St Galls&Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 09:19:28 AM
Had thought that myself, wonder do they draw the seeded teams out to a number though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 13, 2023, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 09:19:28 AM
Had thought that myself, wonder do they draw the seeded teams out to a number though

The 4 c'ship semi finalists are seeded 1-4 and are drawn out first into groups 1-4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
Listening to SV, calling for McEntee to go. Worse than AFTV !!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2023, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
Listening to SV, calling for McEntee to go. Worse than AFTV !!!

There's your first mistake  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 13, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
Listening to SV, calling for McEntee to go. Worse than AFTV !!!

Just making up shit for a reaction, lads never called for him to go they said there should be a review at the end of the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2023, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 13, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
Listening to SV, calling for McEntee to go. Worse than AFTV !!!

Just making up shit for a reaction, lads never called for him to go they said there should be a review at the end of the year


Nothing wrong with a review
Talk about making things up county board guilty of that at last nights draw just one mess after another
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:15:44 PM
Having draw with full round of football fixtures on was a strange one. Heard from source at meeting MC namee cup has been damaged by the holders . How many teams have held the cup over the years. Is this a first where it has been deliberately defaced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 13, 2023, 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:15:44 PM
Having draw with full round of football fixtures on was a strange one. Heard from source at meeting MC namee cup has been damaged by the holders . How many teams have held the cup over the years. Is this a first where it has been deliberately defaced.

Going out on a limb here and say you've never got your hands on the McNamee before? looks well from a distance but is in need of some bodywork.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:31:57 PM
We all have dreams spike. Hope to get a hold of it someday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2023, 12:36:16 PM
Its an old cup and no doubt will need a face lift at some point, but doubt anything was done on purpose..

Which of the top four has the 'best' passage through to the semi finals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 13, 2023, 12:50:38 PM
i think its a bit more balanced this year than the last couple.  suspect the winners of groups 1 and 4 would fancy their chances of making the semi finals but at this stage no one knows what St Brigids will turn up.  The league STB or the +Downey championship STB.  maybe there will no difference
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:51:26 PM
Could you accidentally score one name off a cup.

Does anyone know what groups play each other in the quarters. Couldn't see anything on county page .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 13, 2023, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:15:44 PM
Having draw with full round of football fixtures on was a strange one. Heard from source at meeting MC namee cup has been damaged by the holders . How many teams have held the cup over the years. Is this a first where it has been deliberately defaced.
Started up a new account just to spread this crap. Get a life mate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
If it's not true no big deal, if it is true then serious lack of class and respect. Time will tell.

MR2 if its 1v 4 and 2v3 then we are in for a more balanced championship than previous year with top 8 well split


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 13, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
If it's not true no big deal, if it is true then serious lack of class and respect. Time will tell.

MR2 if its 1v 4 and 2v3 then we are in for a more balanced championship than previous year with top 8 well split
Better you wait and see if true or not before speculating on it then? Otherwise you are spreading lies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2023, 02:39:45 PM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
If it's not true no big deal, if it is true then serious lack of class and respect. Time will tell.

MR2 if its 1v 4 and 2v3 then we are in for a more balanced championship than previous year with top 8 well split

If you want to talk about class and respect ask St Galls how Cargin looked after their injured player lately
Going on there about a supposedly damaged cup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saff on April 13, 2023, 03:38:10 PM
So only respect some teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 13, 2023, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Saff on April 13, 2023, 03:38:10 PM
So only respect some teams?
Take your lies elsewhere
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 13, 2023, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2023, 12:36:16 PM
Its an old cup and no doubt will need a face lift at some point, but doubt anything was done on purpose..

Which of the top four has the 'best' passage through to the semi finals?


Thought you'd a good game last night you get a bit of bad press but fair play
Wasn't a hard game to officiate at I would say apart from the cold.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2023, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 13, 2023, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2023, 12:36:16 PM
Its an old cup and no doubt will need a face lift at some point, but doubt anything was done on purpose..

Which of the top four has the 'best' passage through to the semi finals?


Thought you'd a good game last night you get a bit of bad press but fair play
Wasn't a hard game to officiate at I would say apart from the cold.

Don't be getting embroiled in that about the cup

As for last night, two teams that want to play football is easy enough, Cargin's panel is massive, the strength and conditioning of some of the young bucks is something else.

The two goals for st Mary's made a good game of it and kept yas honest. Big Johns point being the best score lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2023, 10:29:58 PM
Seems the podcast kings have more identities than ole steaknife
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:40:18 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2023, 10:29:58 PM
Seems the podcast kings have more identities than ole steaknife

Think Proteus has dwelt amongst us for a while now....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:00:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?

Deal done......transfers signed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:00:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?

Deal done......transfers signed.

That's that sorted then. End of the drama.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 14, 2023, 09:10:32 PM
Is there not 6? Me confused
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:00:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?

Deal done......transfers signed.


That's that sorted then. End of the drama.

Yep two left last week.....three this week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:18:26 PM
PG1 0-14
Moneyglass 0-10

Game switched to Kelly park......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 14, 2023, 09:25:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:00:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?

Deal done......transfers signed.


That's that sorted then. End of the drama.

Yep two left last week.....three this week.

Just had it confirmed theres deffo 6. Did one get out for a slash on the road up and they left him? The public need to know 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on April 14, 2023, 09:25:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:00:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?

Deal done......transfers signed.


That's that sorted then. End of the drama.

Yep two left last week.....three this week.

Just had it confirmed theres deffo 6. Did one get out for a slash on the road up and they left him? The public need to know 😃

Could well be ......helping hands required....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 14, 2023, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 09:00:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 14, 2023, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 14, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
All 5 Downeys are Musgrave residents now...

What?

Deal done......transfers signed.
[/quote

My Lavey source insists that only 2 transfers have been signed. Maybe he's in denial?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2023, 01:28:47 PM
Anyone got the lineup for the minors? It's currently 5-2 Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2023, 02:02:10 PM
Found it on Armagh Twitter. 7-4 now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2023, 02:24:45 PM
Draw - 8 each. Considering we were 4 nil down not a bad outcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 15, 2023, 02:28:39 PM
Bring back Sean Kelly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 15, 2023, 02:36:26 PM
Good result for Antrim minors today, well done lads and management!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 15, 2023, 03:15:00 PM
Fantastic result.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 15, 2023, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 15, 2023, 03:15:00 PM
Fantastic result.
[/quote

Cavan at Dunsilly next Saturday......1.00pm...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:37:01 PM
Decent group of minors, the bulk of them back next year I understand. Derry and Donegal are just on a different planet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 16, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: geezer on April 15, 2023, 02:28:39 PM
Bring back Sean Kelly.

The SV lads reached out and said they would help with any county PRO stuff if they needed it completely voluntary, they were at portglenone on friday night and athletic grounds yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:37:01 PM
Decent group of minors, the bulk of them back next year I understand. Derry and Donegal are just on a different planet.

That Derry down result is one of the biggest hammering I have seen in a minor game.

Good result. It would be good to see a report - there's a wee titbit on the ulster gaa website which says gribben scored the equaliser but that and following the score all I have read.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 16, 2023, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 16, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:37:01 PM
Decent group of minors, the bulk of them back next year I understand. Derry and Donegal are just on a different planet.

That Derry down result is one of the biggest hammering I have seen in a minor game.

Good result. It would be good to see a report - there's a wee titbit on the ulster gaa website which says gribben scored the equaliser but that and following the score all I have read.

Yep that was Callum.Gribbin, brother of Jamie (a lot taller) who scored the last point......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2023, 07:08:24 PM
A fine baller too..is he in final year of minor? Definitely one for the notebook.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2023, 07:31:54 PM
Report on saffron Gael now. Looks like a few subs made a good difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 16, 2023, 07:51:04 PM
JJ Higgins named in the report as St Galls, is a Naomh Brid player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2023, 07:55:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 16, 2023, 07:51:04 PM
JJ Higgins named in the report as St Galls, is a Naomh Brid player

Or Lavey?  ;D

Sorry couldn't resist
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 16, 2023, 08:18:36 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 16, 2023, 07:51:04 PM
JJ Higgins named in the report as St Galls, is a Naomh Brid player

Maybe he has left, common practice around the city. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 09:27:46 AM
Was very impressed with the minors on Saturday. Sé Ferris coming off the bench offered something different and a driving force. Callum Gribbin only coming back from injury and he looked relatively sharp in the second half after being introduced and took some courage to take his shot from just inside the 45 to get the equaliser.

Great signs for these young lads who will take great heart from that result going forward into the championship. They are guaranteed a QF since being in the group of 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 17, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Antrim played Donegal in a friendly in Glenullin on Friday night. Anyone know how it went?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: ck on April 17, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Antrim played Donegal in a friendly in Glenullin on Friday night. Anyone know how it went?

draw, says alot for Donegal...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: ck on April 17, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Antrim played Donegal in a friendly in Glenullin on Friday night. Anyone know how it went?

draw, says alot for Donegal...

Donegal had a 3rd choice team hardly going to risk boys a week out from championship, says alot about Antrim tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 11:25:22 AM
Quote from: ck on April 17, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Antrim played Donegal in a friendly in Glenullin on Friday night. Anyone know how it went?

Conhuir Johnson scored a goal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on April 17, 2023, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: ck on April 17, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Antrim played Donegal in a friendly in Glenullin on Friday night. Anyone know how it went?

draw, says alot for Donegal...

Donegal had a 3rd choice team hardly going to risk boys a week out from championship, says alot about Antrim tbh

Have you got the teams?
Why on earth would Donegal bother playing a 3rd team 10days before C'ship? Surely it was their starting team to play Down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 02:30:32 PM
Quote from: ck on April 17, 2023, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: ck on April 17, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Antrim played Donegal in a friendly in Glenullin on Friday night. Anyone know how it went?

draw, says alot for Donegal...

Donegal had a 3rd choice team hardly going to risk boys a week out from championship, says alot about Antrim tbh

Have you got the teams?
Why on earth would Donegal bother playing a 3rd team 10days before C'ship? Surely it was their starting team to play Down.

wasnt exactly a 3rd team, mix of starters in the team.

Peter healy was excellent on Jamei Brennan by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D

According the Antrim Strategic Plan 2020-2022, one of their main aims of the plan was to develop a fit for purpose Antrim fixture programme, it's now 2023 and we saw 10am throw ins and leagues starting in first week of March. Does this mean that that "fit for purpose" notion goes out the window? It also says that games are regular, meaningful and meets the needs of all patrons. Not quite sure how footballers start the leagues in early March with 10am throw ins but the hurlers start the leagues at the end of March and every week start at 2pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 17, 2023, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D

According the Antrim Strategic Plan 2020-2022, one of their main aims of the plan was to develop a fit for purpose Antrim fixture programme, it's now 2023 and we saw 10am throw ins and leagues starting in first week of March. Does this mean that that "fit for purpose" notion goes out the window? It also says that games are regular, meaningful and meets the needs of all patrons. Not quite sure how footballers start the leagues in early March with 10am throw ins but the hurlers start the leagues at the end of March and every week start at 2pm

Hurling rules......and the long, long term dream is still alive.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D

According the Antrim Strategic Plan 2020-2022, one of their main aims of the plan was to develop a fit for purpose Antrim fixture programme, it's now 2023 and we saw 10am throw ins and leagues starting in first week of March. Does this mean that that "fit for purpose" notion goes out the window? It also says that games are regular, meaningful and meets the needs of all patrons. Not quite sure how footballers start the leagues in early March with 10am throw ins but the hurlers start the leagues at the end of March and every week start at 2pm

10AM throw in you wouldn't hear it anywhere else on the island  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D

According the Antrim Strategic Plan 2020-2022, one of their main aims of the plan was to develop a fit for purpose Antrim fixture programme, it's now 2023 and we saw 10am throw ins and leagues starting in first week of March. Does this mean that that "fit for purpose" notion goes out the window? It also says that games are regular, meaningful and meets the needs of all patrons. Not quite sure how footballers start the leagues in early March with 10am throw ins but the hurlers start the leagues at the end of March and every week start at 2pm

10AM throw in you wouldn't hear it anywhere else on the island  ;D ;D

Dublin have a lot of league games on at 10.30am.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 17, 2023, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D

According the Antrim Strategic Plan 2020-2022, one of their main aims of the plan was to develop a fit for purpose Antrim fixture programme, it's now 2023 and we saw 10am throw ins and leagues starting in first week of March. Does this mean that that "fit for purpose" notion goes out the window? It also says that games are regular, meaningful and meets the needs of all patrons. Not quite sure how footballers start the leagues in early March with 10am throw ins but the hurlers start the leagues at the end of March and every week start at 2pm

10AM throw in you wouldn't hear it anywhere else on the island  ;D ;D

Dublin have a lot of league games on at 10.30am.

and Derry possibly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 17, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 17, 2023, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 17, 2023, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 17, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

Yeah like the trip to Waterfoot for the senior footballers, you need some serious financial backing for stuff like   that

The county couldn't give a toss about any level of football in this county


Not a good start to your interview for PRO..

=D

According the Antrim Strategic Plan 2020-2022, one of their main aims of the plan was to develop a fit for purpose Antrim fixture programme, it's now 2023 and we saw 10am throw ins and leagues starting in first week of March. Does this mean that that "fit for purpose" notion goes out the window? It also says that games are regular, meaningful and meets the needs of all patrons. Not quite sure how footballers start the leagues in early March with 10am throw ins but the hurlers start the leagues at the end of March and every week start at 2pm

10AM throw in you wouldn't hear it anywhere else on the island  ;D ;D

Dublin have a lot of league games on at 10.30am.

Just visited the Dublin GAA webiste and didnt see one senior div1 league game for a Sunday morning at 10:30 most of them are evening games.

No it doesn't happen in Derry either   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2023, 03:50:47 PM
You can have them at anytime you want, you just have to arrange a time that suits both teams, that's been allowed for decades. Haven't done a 10am start yet. Would suit me now, but as a player I'd have still been 'out'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 17, 2023, 05:30:36 PM
What is the actual reason given for 10am games? I know there's an adult soccer league in Ballymena and surrounding areas with 10.15 starts on a Saturday morning which was to allow players to watch Ballymena United in the afternoon. Are the 10am games on days when Antrim play or what's the actual reason other than the Antrim board doing it to annoy football people obviously. 🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on April 17, 2023, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 17, 2023, 05:30:36 PM
What is the actual reason given for 10am games? I know there's an adult soccer league in Ballymena and surrounding areas with 10.15 starts on a Saturday morning which was to allow players to watch Ballymena United in the afternoon. Are the 10am games on days when Antrim play or what's the actual reason other than the Antrim board doing it to annoy football people obviously. 🙄

The matches were at 10am to allow the masses to attend the Antrim Senior Hurlers league games at Corrigan as well as supporting their club football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 17, 2023, 09:04:41 PM
Have not seen any div one hurling games scheduled for 10.00 am as yet........
Anybody....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 17, 2023, 09:16:30 PM
In fact have never, ever covered a game with a 10.00 am throw in.......until.2023 and that one had an early termination.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2023, 10:32:56 PM
I don't think the early start was an excuse for that stoppage in fairness.

Are there more games being fixed for 10.am?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.

I saw players tweeting negatively about the early throw ins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2023, 10:04:18 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.

I saw players tweeting negatively about the early throw ins.

Saw ones complaining about the 6.30 throw ins the other week.. Do footballers just moan a lot?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: roger99 on April 18, 2023, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.

I saw players tweeting negatively about the early throw ins.

Who did you see tweet this ? It's just not true!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:48:23 AM
Quote from: roger99 on April 18, 2023, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.

I saw players tweeting negatively about the early throw ins.

Who did you see tweet this ? It's just not true!

It is true. See one of Mick McCann's tweets below.....

'Where else would you get it? 10am Senior League Fixtures in March. Split season going well. Hope the lad recovers, shocking injury'

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: roger99 on April 18, 2023, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:48:23 AM
Quote from: roger99 on April 18, 2023, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.

I saw players tweeting negatively about the early throw ins.

Who did you see tweet this ? It's just not true!

It is true. See one of Mick McCann's tweets below.....

'Where else would you get it? 10am Senior League Fixtures in March. Split season going well. Hope the lad recovers, shocking injury'

Did you not see his next tweet , see below:

"Starting to like these 10am games :) "
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:56:21 AM
Quote from: roger99 on April 18, 2023, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:48:23 AM
Quote from: roger99 on April 18, 2023, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: toby47 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 17, 2023, 03:54:51 PM
https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336 (https://www.dublingaa.ie/competitions/results/178336)

Quite a number of games played at 10.30 in Dublin

well don't I look like a d**khead i was going by upcoming fixtures


Haven't heard many complaints from players who actually played at 10am, rest of day free and seems to have went down well after the initial shock though a fair few changed to 11 and 12 throw ins.

I saw players tweeting negatively about the early throw ins.

Who did you see tweet this ? It's just not true!

It is true. See one of Mick McCann's tweets below.....

'Where else would you get it? 10am Senior League Fixtures in March. Split season going well. Hope the lad recovers, shocking injury'

Did you not see his next tweet , see below:

"Starting to like these 10am games :) "

Tongue in cheek, same as his next tweet.

'im sure theres a logical reason for these 10am starts that isn't a 'get these games over to f*ck with in March'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 18, 2023, 12:04:18 PM
Ahh yes, 'the Gospel according to Mick'.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 18, 2023, 02:13:01 PM
St John's v Aghagallon-away win 2+

TNN v Ahoghill home win 3+

Rossa v st Brigids home win 6+

Cargin V Moneyglass home win 2+

St Galls v Creggan home win

Casements v St Endas home win 6+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2023, 02:39:22 PM
tnn ahoghill the big one there.

will county players be playing?I would assume so?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 18, 2023, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2023, 02:39:22 PM
tnn ahoghill the big one there.

will county players be playing?I would assume so?

1 month to the tailteann starts? youd like to see them out for at least 1 more club game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2023, 02:51:38 PM
Yeah you'd hope.

St John's aghagallon be interesting and st galls creggan.

The rest you'd expect to go to script with county players.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 18, 2023, 02:58:47 PM
is the whole panel sticking out the tailteann cup? no one heading to the states?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 18, 2023, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 18, 2023, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 18, 2023, 02:39:22 PM
tnn ahoghill the big one there.

will county players be playing?I would assume so?

1 month to the tailteann starts? youd like to see them out for at least 1 more club game

2 more I'd say start of may will be the cut off point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 18, 2023, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 18, 2023, 02:58:47 PM
is the whole panel sticking out the tailteann cup? no one heading to the states?

The new Tailteann cup format means you'll be in it minimum 5 weeks maximum 10 weeks depending on how well your county does meaning you wont see county players back to their clubs until end of june.. must be a few Biddies and LD folk thinking oh bollocks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 18, 2023, 03:45:49 PM
Few cracking games in div 2 tomorrow as well!! Gorts against Ballymena and Aldegrove at home to Glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 18, 2023, 03:46:38 PM
St John's v Aghagallon home win +3

Rossa v St Brigids home win +3

TNN v Ahoghill home win +2

Cargin v Moneyglass home win +4

St Galls v Creggan away win +2

Portglenone v St Enda's home win +4




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on April 18, 2023, 04:30:53 PM
St John's v Aghagallon home win +1

Rossa v St Brigids home win +5

TNN v Ahoghill home win +1

Cargin v Moneyglass home win +1

St Galls v Creggan away home +2

Portglenone v St Enda's home away +1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 18, 2023, 04:38:14 PM
St John's v Aghagallon home win +3

Rossa v St Brigids Draw

TNN v Ahoghill home win +4

Cargin v Moneyglass home win +7

St Galls v Creggan away win +3

Portglenone v St Enda's home win +5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 19, 2023, 01:51:45 PM
Question for MR... David Coldrick failed the inter county referees fitness test because he didnt get 17.4 in the bleep test. What is the fitness requirement for an Antrim club referee? And also do you take a bad ref who can complete the test or a good ref who can't ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 19, 2023, 01:51:45 PM
Question for MR... David Coldrick failed the inter county referees fitness test because he didnt get 17.4 in the bleep test. What is the fitness requirement for an Antrim club referee? And also do you take a bad ref who can complete the test or a good ref who can't ??

Generally its over 14 I think for club referee's, those that don't past the rules test (over 80%, over 95% intercounty I think) or the fitness test don't get championship games.. Having done the test you'd know that  ;)

If the 'good' ref can't keep up with play or know the rules then he's not a good ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 19, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 19, 2023, 01:51:45 PM
Question for MR... David Coldrick failed the inter county referees fitness test because he didnt get 17.4 in the bleep test. What is the fitness requirement for an Antrim club referee? And also do you take a bad ref who can complete the test or a good ref who can't ??

Generally its over 14 I think for club referee's, those that don't past the rules test (over 80%, over 95% intercounty I think) or the fitness test don't get championship games.. Having done the test you'd know that  ;)

If the 'good' ref can't keep up with play or know the rules then he's not a good ref?

Thanks for clearing all that up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 19, 2023, 09:21:02 PM
Not easy picking those results tonight I can tell ye
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 19, 2023, 09:42:57 PM
Can't think of a more horrible venue in the county at the moment than Aldergrove, the pitch that time forgot !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 19, 2023, 09:57:37 PM
The portglenone juggernaut stalling this evening. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 19, 2023, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 19, 2023, 09:42:57 PM
Can't think of a more horrible venue in the county at the moment than Aldergrove, the pitch that time forgot !

can't imagine how bad it is with all the rain there has been throughout March
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 19, 2023, 10:14:19 PM
Took them to match day 7 last year I believe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 19, 2023, 10:24:52 PM
Match of the day/evening at Toome ...Cargin dig deep to see off the spirited challenge of Moneyglass.....






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 19, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
Have to say Moneyglass have surprised me this year, smiley flying at club level, could never understand why he could never make the break through at inter county, seemed to have all the attributes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 19, 2023, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 19, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
Have to say Moneyglass have surprised me this year, smiley flying at club level, could never understand why he could never make the break through at inter county, seemed to have all the attributes
What way have they suprised you? They are doing what any team in their position would do and got really fit really early in an attempt to pick up points but they will most likely still be relegated. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 20, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
Bit unfair there EOC, any club goes to Toome and scores  2 -15 should be able to puck up enough points to finish mid table, sure let's wait and see. But no chance will they be relegated imo.

Wasn't at our game due to work commitments but from the couple of reports I got we have no excuses. St Endas are a decent outfit when at full strength and when they got a few points up did a good job of protecting that for the next hour.

Some second half from St Brigids, outscored Rossa away from home by 11 points, not many do that. Anybody at that want to comment, is this the start of the South Belfast charge??

Everyone beatable on the day...a club could win this league and still lose three or four games, that's how open Antrim club football is atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 20, 2023, 10:54:57 AM
Two U-20 Connacht titles in a row for Sligo, shows what's possible from "lesser" counties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on April 20, 2023, 11:04:45 AM
Anyone at the Portglenone game? Any explanation for the loss?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 20, 2023, 10:54:57 AM
Two U-20 Connacht titles in a row for Sligo, shows what's possible from "lesser" counties

Great going, I do think we are slowly catching up at underage levels, we don't get the hammerings we used to get.
Alot still needs to be done and I believe majority of it has to work through the schools.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 20, 2023, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 20, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
Bit unfair there EOC, any club goes to Toome and scores  2 -15 should be able to puck up enough points to finish mid table, sure let's wait and see. But no chance will they be relegated imo.

Wasn't at our game due to work commitments but from the couple of reports I got we have no excuses. St Endas are a decent outfit when at full strength and when they got a few points up did a good job of protecting that for the next hour.

Some second half from St Brigids, outscored Rossa away from home by 11 points, not many do that. Anybody at that want to comment, is this the start of the South Belfast charge??

Everyone beatable on the day...a club could win this league and still lose three or four games, that's how open Antrim club football is atm.
Wasn't being critical or disparaging, was just being realistic. Mglass a decent and very youthful team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 11:46:32 AM
MR2 I See you were over St Johns and Lavey last night sorry i mean St Brigids, Were any of the famous 5 playing???
They had been struggling in the league thus far just wondering what made the difference last night was it the county players or what???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 11:49:40 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 11:46:32 AM
MR2 I See you were over St Johns and Lavey last night sorry i mean St Brigids, Were any of the famous 5 playing???
They had been struggling in the league thus far just wondering what made the difference last night was it the county players or what???

Rossa Naomh Brid  ;)

Nah never noticed, some late subs came on haven't looked

Rossa couldn't score second half and momentum with the South Belfast team

I don't think they made a difference if they did come on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 20, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
Good wins for galls, aghagallon, endas, lavey and ahoghill. Cargin as expected but seemed a tight affair.

Hard to predict games this year. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2023, 03:46:45 PM
My da always laughs at this when watching county matches. He's like what is he asking the player there - what's your name lol. Umm David Clifford - sorry how do you spell that  ;D (doubt that is what is being said tbf  ;D)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 20, 2023, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: geezer on April 20, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
Good wins for galls, aghagallon, endas, lavey and ahoghill. Cargin as expected but seemed a tight affair.

Hard to predict games this year. Long may it continue.

Yep was a tight affair at Toome and Cargin are really full out in search of another league title.....disappointed...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on April 20, 2023, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on April 20, 2023, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: geezer on April 20, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
Good wins for galls, aghagallon, endas, lavey and ahoghill. Cargin as expected but seemed a tight affair.

Hard to predict games this year. Long may it continue.

Yep was a tight affair at Toome and Cargin are really full out in search of another league title.....disappointed...

With that squad yous have id expect it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 21, 2023, 08:05:47 AM
Aye, I'm the same. Wouldn't have a notion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 21, 2023, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Says it all tbh there's only one star of the show when you are refereeing and he doesn't wear a number  ;). Your mate apparently had a poor game on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 21, 2023, 11:03:19 AM
Who would his mate be?


Quote from: realisticsaff on April 21, 2023, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Says it all tbh there's only one star of the show when you are refereeing and he doesn't wear a number  ;). Your mate apparently had a poor game on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out

You come across just as arrogant here as you do on the pitch  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 21, 2023, 11:03:19 AM
Who would his mate be?


Quote from: realisticsaff on April 21, 2023, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Says it all tbh there's only one star of the show when you are refereeing and he doesn't wear a number  ;). Your mate apparently had a poor game on Wednesday night.

Sure I don't have any mates  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out

You come across just as arrogant here as you do on the pitch  :-X

Will I put up the post where you said you didn't know I was a ref? You will have to up your game on the wind ups.

Never been accused of being arrogant, these are just opinions, you don't have to accept them or agree with them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out

You come across just as arrogant here as you do on the pitch  :-X

Will I put up the post where you said you didn't know I was a ref? You will have to up your game on the wind ups.

Never been accused of being arrogant, these are just opinions, you don't have to accept them or agree with them

I was made aware of who you were, shows your arrogance even more, just expecting people to know who you are  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out

You come across just as arrogant here as you do on the pitch  :-X

Will I put up the post where you said you didn't know I was a ref? You will have to up your game on the wind ups.

Never been accused of being arrogant, these are just opinions, you don't have to accept them or agree with them

I was made aware of who you were, shows your arrogance even more, just expecting people to know who you are  ;D

Dead on ya eejit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
What has MR2 done to annoy you boys so much? Getting a bit too personal on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
What has MR2 done to annoy you boys so much? Getting a bit too personal on here.

Its all good no snowflakes here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 21, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
MR2 one of the better refs, believe me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 21, 2023, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
What has MR2 done to annoy you boys so much? Getting a bit too personal on here.

Maybe somebody is a wee bit upset at school today. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 21, 2023, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
What has MR2 done to annoy you boys so much? Getting a bit too personal on here.

Maybe somebody is a wee bit upset at school today. 😉

He said he was too old to take up the whistle when asked so unfortunately he's outta school.

There are generally two types of people, those that see their glass half full and those that see their glass half empty

Then you have these guys who's glass is smashed to bits!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 01:22:16 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 21, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
MR2 one of the better refs, believe me.

He robs us equally as much as the rest of the refs  ;)

These new lads on here kicking up a stink!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 21, 2023, 01:29:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 01:22:16 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 21, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
MR2 one of the better refs, believe me.

He robs us equally as much as the rest of the refs  ;)

These new lads on here kicking up a stink!

"New lads" 🧐
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 02:17:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out

Nothing against MR2 just thought this was an arrogant response to me making a statement...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 21, 2023, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 21, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
MR2 one of the better refs, believe me.

Hes must have the Creggan game on Sunday NSN ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 21, 2023, 02:47:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 21, 2023, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 21, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
What has MR2 done to annoy you boys so much? Getting a bit too personal on here.

Maybe somebody is a wee bit upset at school today. 😉

He said he was too old to take up the whistle when asked so unfortunately he's outta school.

There are generally two types of people, those that see their glass half full and those that see their glass half empty

Then you have these guys who's glass is smashed to bits!!

Who said he was a student 🙃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 21, 2023, 02:17:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 20, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 20, 2023, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 20, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Going by SG Oran Downey started and Enda came on.

And Oran got a goal.....would have thought that would be hard to miss unless MR2 is wanting to stay away from the gossip for a change!!  ;D

I wouldn't know these lads if they came in and sat down in front of me, I don't look at the names on the sheet either. Didn't realise they were famous  :D

Famous Fathers in the GAA world no doubt...

The dads weren't play though.. maybe the fan boys would have picked them out

Nothing against MR2 just thought this was an arrogant response to me making a statement...

Arrogance is not knowing two players from a different county? Right !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 21, 2023, 09:35:30 PM
Won't be long until the airwaves will be clear again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 21, 2023, 10:27:04 PM
Darren is one of the best refs we have in the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 21, 2023, 11:26:18 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 21, 2023, 10:27:04 PM
Darren is one of the best refs we have in the county

Cool. It's not like theres a great selection.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 01:34:48 PM
Were Antrim minors not supposed to be playing today?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 22, 2023, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 01:34:48 PM
Were Antrim minors not supposed to be playing today?
Had to go into Cavan's socials to get updates on the game because Antrim are in Corrigan covering the Leinster Championship match against the Dubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
If only we had a private jet to or spilt a person in two or we had help from people to cover games in different counties at the same time!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 02:01:26 PM
I always thought it was a myth you city boys thought the country was a different county, however hate to break it to you Dunsilly is in the same county as the peoples republic of the Whiterock

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
If only we had a private jet to or spilt a person in two or we had help from people to cover games in different counties at the same time!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 02:01:26 PM
I always thought it was a myth you city boys thought the country was a different county, however hate to break it to you Dunsilly is in the same county as the peoples republic of the Whiterock

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
If only we had a private jet to or spilt a person in two or we had help from people to cover games in different counties at the same time!!

Ya know what I mean  ;D

Anyways it's where the baulk of the titles sit ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 22, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
The Saffron Voice men offered their services for free to help the PRO 🤷🏽‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
If only we had a private jet to or spilt a person in two or we had help from people to cover games in different counties at the same time!!

Cavans PRO covering a game at 1pm in Dunsilly then Breffini park at 6pm for the senior game that's serious commitment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 22, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
The Saffron Voice men offered their services for free to help the PRO 🤷🏽‍♂️

We all know they'd never ever let anyone in that's not under the boys club umbrella and would rock the boat and upset the apple cart
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 22, 2023, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 22, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
The Saffron Voice men offered their services for free to help the PRO 🤷🏽‍♂️

We all know they'd never ever let anyone in that's not under the boys club umbrella and would rock the boat and upset the apple cart

In other words talk shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
If only we had a private jet to or spilt a person in two or we had help from people to cover games in different counties at the same time!!

Cavans PRO covering a game at 1pm in Dunsilly then Breffini park at 6pm for the senior game that's serious commitment

So not at the same time? Ok very good useful advice information
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2023, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 22, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
The Saffron Voice men offered their services for free to help the PRO 🤷🏽‍♂️

Do you ever wonder why they didn't accept?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 22, 2023, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 22, 2023, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 22, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
The Saffron Voice men offered their services for free to help the PRO 🤷🏽‍♂️

Do you ever wonder why they didn't accept?

Goat soaked at Dunsilly myself......

Jeez our lads did not show up.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 22, 2023, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 22, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
The Saffron Voice men offered their services for free to help the PRO 🤷🏽‍♂️

We all know they'd never ever let anyone in that's not under the boys club umbrella and would rock the boat and upset the apple cart

In other words talk shite

Mate the current PRO tweets the most shite of us all he tweets like hes a 13 year old girl  texting her friend in a secondary school during games "Pat Shivers 🤤"  "Keelan molloy 👀"  its f**king cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
If only we had a private jet to or spilt a person in two or we had help from people to cover games in different counties at the same time!!

Cavans PRO covering a game at 1pm in Dunsilly then Breffini park at 6pm for the senior game that's serious commitment

So not at the same time? Ok very good useful advice information

Yeah if you cant be arsed about our minor lads dont try and flunk tickets about their games when you cant be bothered to cover the game yourself but are spaming links where to get tickets constantly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 09:52:40 PM
So what I can gather, if you tweet like a 13 year old girl you're not capable!?

So get the big bucks but say 13 year old girls are useless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 22, 2023, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 09:52:40 PM
So what I can gather, if you tweet like a 13 year old girl you're not capable!?

So get the big bucks but say 13 year old girls are useless
Don't think that he's not capable, but you can see where his priorities lie. Our minor lads were playing earlier on and no mention of a score, a team sheet or nothing. I get he was in Corrigan and that's fair enough, but what was stopping him from informing followers of the game by at least retweeting from other accounts? Hugely frustrating for our young minors who are representing this county at this level and to get zero recognition from our PRO is concerning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
I've no idea who the PRO is or anything about him but I highly doubt while covering a Leinster Championship Hurling match he'd have much time to be scrolling Twitter for updates of another match.

Half the time when you're updating Twitter with match updates the next poc out has happened quickly and you miss a load of the match as it is without scrolling for another match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 10:48:40 PM
I can see both sides of the argument here and I get it the PRO was in Corrigan, however you would think he could have made arrangements with say Safrron Gael, a mate or club mate who was going to the minor game and let them update the scores on the County Twitter account, we aren't looking Sky Sports coverage however a team sheet, the score and at a push a scorer is the minimum that can be expected in this day and age
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 10:48:40 PM
I can see both sides of the argument here and I get it the PRO was in Corrigan, however you would think he could have made arrangements with say Safrron Gael, a mate or club mate who was going to the minor game and let them update the scores on the County Twitter account, we aren't looking Sky Sports coverage however a team sheet, the score and at a push a scorer is the minimum that can be expected in this day and age

Were you at Dunsilly? If you have Twitter you could have 'twitted' not sure of wording there.

Could let's say someone who regularly posts, reports or is a regular 'reporter' for SG,  hmmmm I don't know CB ;D, who said he was at Dunsilly not do that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
I've no idea who the PRO is or anything about him but I highly doubt while covering a Leinster Championship Hurling match he'd have much time to be scrolling Twitter for updates of another match.

Half the time when you're updating Twitter with match updates the next poc out has happened quickly and you miss a load of the match as it is without scrolling for another match.

We'll dont retweet things on twitter all week about buying tickets to the minor game then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 10:48:40 PM
I can see both sides of the argument here and I get it the PRO was in Corrigan, however you would think he could have made arrangements with say Safrron Gael, a mate or club mate who was going to the minor game and let them update the scores on the County Twitter account, we aren't looking Sky Sports coverage however a team sheet, the score and at a push a scorer is the minimum that can be expected in this day and age

I had a very brief stint with a Camogie County account and I had to be approved at one of the meetings by the clubs before I was allowed access to the account so there could be a similar reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
I've no idea who the PRO is or anything about him but I highly doubt while covering a Leinster Championship Hurling match he'd have much time to be scrolling Twitter for updates of another match.

Half the time when you're updating Twitter with match updates the next poc out has happened quickly and you miss a load of the match as it is without scrolling for another match.

We'll dont retweet things on twitter all week about buying tickets to the minor game then.

So you can gurn about them completely ignoring the match? Or if someone's granny or granda turns up and didn't know you needed tickets you could gurn about that?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 22, 2023, 11:14:18 PM
Minor game started at 1pm in Dunsilly, 30+ mins to half time, surely a retweet from other accounts such as Ulster GAA or Cavan who were at it would have been acceptable. Senior hurlers threw in at 2pm, 35+ mins later and it's half time, surely there was sufficient enough time to retweet a FT score from minors?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 11:14:31 PM
Do or would people seek out either my or CB's Twitter to find updates on the county teams? I doubt it why would they or would they go to the Official Antrim account as it is referred to in the bio of the Twitter account.
I think you seem a decent enough chap MR2 (doubtless you don't care what I think of you) however sometimes you can refrain from raising a non starter of a defence/rebuttal on behalf of the county board

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 10:59:04 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 22, 2023, 10:48:40 PM
I can see both sides of the argument here and I get it the PRO was in Corrigan, however you would think he could have made arrangements with say Safrron Gael, a mate or club mate who was going to the minor game and let them update the scores on the County Twitter account, we aren't looking Sky Sports coverage however a team sheet, the score and at a push a scorer is the minimum that can be expected in this day and age

Were you at Dunsilly? If you have Twitter you could have 'twitted' not sure of wording there.

Could let's say someone who regularly posts, reports or is a regular 'reporter' for SG,  hmmmm I don't know CB ;D, who said he was at Dunsilly not do that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:29 PM
No defence from me, I just don't see how you can split a man who volunteers to do a Pro job for the county and be expected to be in two places at once or have two glipes who called him on regular occasions a 'wee rat' to help the county board out...

I don't defend the county board either, you have to remember this, I've said it regularly also, as a player or manager over the years I've called them out on numerous occasions here and at county level.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:30:18 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
I've no idea who the PRO is or anything about him but I highly doubt while covering a Leinster Championship Hurling match he'd have much time to be scrolling Twitter for updates of another match.

Half the time when you're updating Twitter with match updates the next poc out has happened quickly and you miss a load of the match as it is without scrolling for another match.

We'll dont retweet things on twitter all week about buying tickets to the minor game then.

So you can gurn about them completely ignoring the match? Or if someone's granny or granda turns up and didn't know you needed tickets you could gurn about that?

Antrim have had 2 ulster minor matches and the county havent been to either and done no coverage what so ever, its clear they couldnt care less about the young lads who are travelling up and down the county weekly and devouting their lives to that cause, so maybe dont constantly ask people to fork out for tickets when you yourself havent any interest in the product.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:34:54 PM
In all your posts are you positive about anything? Is your life so grey or black that you moan constantly about the price of butter?

I don't know your age but chill the fuvk out lad. You're one miserable Cnut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:30:18 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
I've no idea who the PRO is or anything about him but I highly doubt while covering a Leinster Championship Hurling match he'd have much time to be scrolling Twitter for updates of another match.

Half the time when you're updating Twitter with match updates the next poc out has happened quickly and you miss a load of the match as it is without scrolling for another match.

We'll dont retweet things on twitter all week about buying tickets to the minor game then.

So you can gurn about them completely ignoring the match? Or if someone's granny or granda turns up and didn't know you needed tickets you could gurn about that?

Antrim have had 2 ulster minor matches and the county havent been to either and done no coverage what so ever, its clear they couldnt care less about the young lads who are travelling up and down the county weekly and devouting their lives to that cause, so maybe dont constantly ask people to fork out for tickets when you yourself havent any interest in the product.

If the Antrim PRO isn't sharing information about upcoming matches, what would their job role be?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:29 PM
No defence from me, I just don't see how you can split a man who volunteers to do a Pro job for the county and be expected to be in two places at once or have two glipes who called him on regular occasions a 'wee rat' to help the county board out...

I don't defend the county board either, you have to remember this, I've said it regularly also, as a player or manager over the years I've called them out on numerous occasions here and at county level.

Tumelty spat in a players face when he played for Antrim minors and you called a supporter a fat Cnut last year but are employees of the county board. So let's not pretend everyone is cleaner than clean that is under their umbrella
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:29 PM
No defence from me, I just don't see how you can split a man who volunteers to do a Pro job for the county and be expected to be in two places at once or have two glipes who called him on regular occasions a 'wee rat' to help the county board out...

I don't defend the county board either, you have to remember this, I've said it regularly also, as a player or manager over the years I've called them out on numerous occasions here and at county level.

Tumelty spat in a players face when he played for Antrim minors and you called a supporter a fat Cnut last year but are employees of the county board. So let's not pretend everyone is cleaner than clean that is under their umbrella

But you tried to use the tragedy in Cresslough to bash the county board, sick individuals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:29 PM
No defence from me, I just don't see how you can split a man who volunteers to do a Pro job for the county and be expected to be in two places at once or have two glipes who called him on regular occasions a 'wee rat' to help the county board out...

I don't defend the county board either, you have to remember this, I've said it regularly also, as a player or manager over the years I've called them out on numerous occasions here and at county level.

Tumelty spat in a players face when he played for Antrim minors and you called a supporter a fat Cnut last year but are employees of the county board. So let's not pretend everyone is cleaner than clean that is under their umbrella

But you tried to use the tragedy in Cresslough to bash the county board, sick individuals

How?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 12:08:08 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:29 PM
No defence from me, I just don't see how you can split a man who volunteers to do a Pro job for the county and be expected to be in two places at once or have two glipes who called him on regular occasions a 'wee rat' to help the county board out...

I don't defend the county board either, you have to remember this, I've said it regularly also, as a player or manager over the years I've called them out on numerous occasions here and at county level.

Tumelty spat in a players face when he played for Antrim minors and you called a supporter a fat Cnut last year but are employees of the county board. So let's not pretend everyone is cleaner than clean that is under their umbrella

But you tried to use the tragedy in Cresslough to bash the county board, sick individuals

How?

Do you seriously want to bring this up? Is your brain that small?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 23, 2023, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 12:08:08 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 22, 2023, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 11:21:29 PM
No defence from me, I just don't see how you can split a man who volunteers to do a Pro job for the county and be expected to be in two places at once or have two glipes who called him on regular occasions a 'wee rat' to help the county board out...

I don't defend the county board either, you have to remember this, I've said it regularly also, as a player or manager over the years I've called them out on numerous occasions here and at county level.

Tumelty spat in a players face when he played for Antrim minors and you called a supporter a fat Cnut last year but are employees of the county board. So let's not pretend everyone is cleaner than clean that is under their umbrella

But you tried to use the tragedy in Cresslough to bash the county board, sick individuals

How?

Do you seriously want to bring this up? Is your brain that small?

All that was said was have our county made a donation after every other had made one.

Also you say I dont like the county but I'm also miserable for wanting for them to cover the minor games do you realise how condradicting that is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 12:31:24 AM
You tried (miserably without checking) to presume they didn't, to score points on a tragedy, which is sick .

You called the PRO a "wee rat" they are your words and want people to take you seriously?

As for one person to cover two games at the same time I'm really confused on how he actually goes about that? Help me here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 23, 2023, 12:58:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 12:31:24 AM
You tried (miserably without checking) to presume they didn't, to score points on a tragedy, which is sick .

You called the PRO a "wee rat" they are your words and want people to take you seriously?

As for one person to cover two games at the same time I'm really confused on how he actually goes about that? Help me here

Calling a supporter a fat cnut, spitting in someone's face and denying someone in a wheelchair into a match and you want people to take the people in charge seriously?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 23, 2023, 12:59:17 PM
Was as heavy a defeat expected yesterday for the minors ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 23, 2023, 04:15:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 23, 2023, 12:59:17 PM
Was as heavy a defeat expected yesterday for the minors ?

Nope talking to a few of them they threw the towel in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 23, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
Judging by the score, maybe some players were glad it wasn't covered on twitter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.

Outraged? The problem with kids today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.

Outraged? The problem with kids today
Yes, outraged. And those "kids" are the future of our county teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.

Outraged? The problem with kids today
Yes, outraged. And those "kids" are the future of our county teams.

I'm sorry if I was more outraged because the Twitter hadn't put up some info after getting hammered then there is something seriously wrong.

Talk about going out of your way to be outraged!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.

Outraged? The problem with kids today
Yes, outraged. And those "kids" are the future of our county teams.

I'm sorry if I was more outraged because the Twitter hadn't put up some info after getting hammered then there is something seriously wrong.

Talk about going out of your way to be outraged!
I'm sure if you talked to any minor that played yesterday they would have been disappointed with the result but then going into Twitter after the game to not even see a "good luck" message for the lads from your own PRO would be very demoralising. The PRO has an obligation to promote every aspect of county games to the public. But if any Tom, Dick or Harry went on the Antrim official page they wouldn't know any different if our minors were playing or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 08:29:12 PM
Times have changed and not for the better, if you feel that you ain't getting enough attention on Twitter then maybe you don't have the resilience to play inter county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 23, 2023, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.

Outraged? The problem with kids today
Yes, outraged. And those "kids" are the future of our county teams.

I wouldn't bother it's like trying to talk to a brick wall. He's always right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 23, 2023, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: SaffSpot on April 23, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Judging by what some fellas tell me, the minors were outraged that the U16 Celtic Challenge team was mentioned on the Twitter page but no mention of their match against Armagh.

Outraged? The problem with kids today

To be blunt this comment is an absolute load of nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 24, 2023, 11:04:42 AM
Understand both sides of this argument certainly someone cant be two places at once.

However its not very hard to retweet updates from somewhere else or a tweet before the game directing people where they could receive updates.

Poor form mentioning the Celtic challenge and no mention of the footballers.

MR2 I know you don't like the SV guys but surely you can see where they are coming from...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 11:24:38 AM
Can someone put a 'Tweat' on about the game at Dunsilly please.

Can only imagine the outrage of not being tweeted about

Social media is grand but when kids are complaining about not being 'spoken' about on some social media platform about a heavy defeat then the place is doomed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 24, 2023, 11:29:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 11:24:38 AM
Can someone put a 'Tweat' on about the game at Dunsilly please.

Can only imagine the outrage of not being tweeted about

Social media is grand but when kids are complaining about not being 'spoken' about on some social media platform about a heavy defeat then the place is doomed

Win lose or draw I'm sure it would be nice to gain some recognition for playing for your county, for some players it might be a big deal even just being named on a team sheet on your county twitter page. no matter of result. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 11:45:03 AM
Tbf there should be a good bit more coverage for the minors.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 11:45:03 AM
Tbf there should be a good bit more coverage for the minors.

Social media is good, it promotes and informs but if you think for one second this isn't being used as a stick to beat someone then you're missing the point of the outraged post.

I seen plenty posts when I searched. There was tea sheets and updates on every score.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 11:56:41 AM
Which twitter account?

It has buck all to do with anything of the result and does not mean that "other parties" should be covering it but I think these young guys do deserve a bit more coverage than they have been getting. That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 11:56:41 AM
Which twitter account?

It has buck all to do with anything of the result and does not mean that "other parties" should be covering it but I think these young guys do deserve a bit more coverage than they have been getting. That's all I'm saying.

On the Cavan Twitter account it had everything from the start. You don't have to be genius to find it. Yeah someone could have 'retweeted' them on to the Antrim Twitter page. But is it a one man voluntarily job.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 12:21:48 PM
 ;D

Could there not be arrangements made to get help when something can't be covered? No not from eejits who slag everything to the nth degree and then think they should be employed...

Just because some scrutiny is completely over and above doesn't mean all scrutiny is wrong. Everything is not binary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 24, 2023, 12:50:12 PM
There in is the problem for people MR2, the Cavan Twitter account, should we co-celebrate with Cavan as they won the USFC two years ago, sure after all it's promoting Antrim gaelic games and our youth

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 11:56:41 AM
Which twitter account?

It has buck all to do with anything of the result and does not mean that "other parties" should be covering it but I think these young guys do deserve a bit more coverage than they have been getting. That's all I'm saying.

On the Cavan Twitter account it had everything from the start. You don't have to be genius to find it. Yeah someone could have 'retweeted' them on to the Antrim Twitter page. But is it a one man voluntarily job.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 01:21:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 11:56:41 AM
Which twitter account?

It has buck all to do with anything of the result and does not mean that "other parties" should be covering it but I think these young guys do deserve a bit more coverage than they have been getting. That's all I'm saying.

On the Cavan Twitter account it had everything from the start. You don't have to be genius to find it. Yeah someone could have 'retweeted' them on to the Antrim Twitter page. But is it a one man voluntarily job.

Jesus wept. More brains in a false face.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 12:21:48 PM

No not from eejits who slag everything to the nth degree and then think they should be employed...




If they were such "eejits" who slagged everything they wouldnt have the social media following they do, get the listens they do on each podcast and actually have paid patroens to listen to their opinions. So maybe do some research before spouting nonsense
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 24, 2023, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

No one attacking anyone i understand maybe some words were said in the past by certain people.
But we are just saying it would have been nice to see them get some kind of mention.

We were spoilt in recent years with the coverage sean kelly provided as PRO.

Bare in mind this isn't the first time this has happened I remember there being little coverage of a number of u20 league games too.
Big boots to fill all the same and im sure the new PRO is trying his best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 01:58:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

Seriously mate give it a rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 24, 2023, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

No one attacking anyone i understand maybe some words were said in the past by certain people.
But we are just saying it would have been nice to see them get some kind of mention.

We were spoilt in recent years with the coverage sean kelly provided as PRO.

Bare in mind this isn't the first time this has happened I remember there being little coverage of a number of u20 league games too.
Big boots to fill all the same and im sure the new PRO is trying his best.

The club games havent had a mention this year on the county socials either... its genuinely abysmal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:05:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

I get that and I agree on the attacks. All I'm saying is we should be promoting our minor team. For some reason this year on the football front we haven't been.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:05:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

I get that and I agree on the attacks. All I'm saying is we should be promoting our minor team. For some reason this year on the football front we haven't been.

Not saying it's not happening, personally I only use Twitter to check in on results, it can be any feed for me, as for 17 year olds being outraged it's a bit much. Maybe I'm not hung up on that stuff, didn't realise it's a factor nowadays!!

These lads have some brass neck when saying things are abysmal  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 24, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
The 17 year olds are far from outraged at lack of twitter coverage, if they are even aware of it at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:05:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

I get that and I agree on the attacks. All I'm saying is we should be promoting our minor team. For some reason this year on the football front we haven't been.

"The attacks" jesus christ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:38:01 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 24, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
The 17 year olds are far from outraged at lack of twitter coverage, if they are even aware of it at all.

All of them chatted to us straight after the game and are well aware of it. They all have twitter and social media grandad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:05:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I'm not against promoting or coverage of our games. I'm against the attacks on people doing what they can for free when multiple games are on over any given weekend in the spring/summer months by people who feel hard done by

I get that and I agree on the attacks. All I'm saying is we should be promoting our minor team. For some reason this year on the football front we haven't been.

Not saying it's not happening, personally I only use Twitter to check in on results, it can be any feed for me, as for 17 year olds being outraged it's a bit much. Maybe I'm not hung up on that stuff, didn't realise it's a factor nowadays!!

These lads have some brass neck when saying things are abysmal  ;D

Saying people are outraged is not really something I would pay attention to tbh. I just personally think playing minor is a big deal and would have liked to see a bit of coverage  - that's all! 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffSpot on April 24, 2023, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 24, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
The 17 year olds are far from outraged at lack of twitter coverage, if they are even aware of it at all.
They are well aware of the situation with coverage they get on Twitter and Facebook. Believe it or not lads at 16/17 are on every social media going nowadays. So the u16 Celtic Challenge team were playing in Dundalk, the minors in Dunsilly and the senior hurlers at Corrigan. So how come the u16s get coverage when they were playing in a different county. You can't say that he can't be in different places at one time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:43:16 PM
Attention on social media, or lack of, no actual thoughts on the game other than the podcasts guys saying the lads threw the towel in...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:43:16 PM
Attention on social media, or lack of, no actual thoughts on the game other than the podcasts guys saying the lads threw the towel in...

I get you are a paid employee of the county and you scratch my back I scratch yours and all that shite etc but you cant genuinely believe and be that f**king thran that you and them are right on every single thing you say and do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I mean when the county chairman gives you a mint new car to get to the games in I'm sure people will.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:25 PM
There will always be scrutiny though. Anyone going into those roles knows that. It's filtering the valid scrutiny from the nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I mean when the county chairman gives you a mint new car to get to the games in I'm sure people will.

I'm sure you'll be front and centre then for when it does become available..

I've been on this board many years, I've had many run ins with the county board over lots of issues. Both here and through various committees some resolved some not but, you've a deranged view on things so I'm happy to put in my own perspective on things. When I'm wrong I'll say it, this thought is for debating and your nastiness is too much at times to take seriously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I mean when the county chairman gives you a mint new car to get to the games in I'm sure people will.

I'm sure you'll be front and centre then for when it does become available..

I've been on this board many years, I've had many run ins with the county board over lots of issues. Both here and through various committees some resolved some not but, you've a deranged view on things so I'm happy to put in my own perspective on things. When I'm wrong I'll say it, this thought is for debating and your nastiness is too much at times to take seriously

A big tough referee from west belfast who's been refereeing for the guts of 20 year who's probably heard the most vile things on a pitch and on a sideline thinks we are nasty... seriously mate grow up. Just because we say stuff people think we are wrong? Wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on April 24, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
Dont Know MR2, Dont know the SV2, but the comments on here are something you would expect from kids at times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 24, 2023, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on April 24, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
Dont Know MR2, Dont know the SV2, but the comments on here are something you would expect from kids at times.

Well said. The last few pages here have been an embarrassment to read when you consider everyone here is an adult.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 24, 2023, 04:28:20 PM
here here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 24, 2023, 04:36:22 PM
Tara altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 24, 2023, 04:40:23 PM
my predictions for Wed night;

St Brigids v Naomh Eoin - St Johns by 2
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás---v---Tír na nÓg - TNN by 1
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille---v---Naomh Gall - St Galls by 4
Naomh Éanna---v---Clann na hÉireann - Cargin by 1
Creggan---v---Lamh DheargKickhams GAC Creggan - Creggan by 3
Aghagallon---v---Roger Casements Portglenone - Aghagallon by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 07:29:06 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty

Definitely not and he's looking to clear up some of those things you've said about it, should be a good conversation. Let me know how it goes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty


And what would it matter if I was?

The stuff spouted last week on that podcast was actually embarrassing, the mocking of the chairman was way over the top and from somebody who is a so called professional person is worrying.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty


the mocking of the chairman was way over the top and from somebody who is a so called professional person is worrying.

The denying of someone in a wheelchair access into a game from somebody who is a so called professional is worrying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 08:40:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty

the mocking of the chairman was way over the top and from somebody who is a so called professional person is worrying.

Spitting in someone's face and verbally abusing supporters are fine but a light hearted impression is where you draw the line. Right no bother
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 08:42:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty


And what would it matter if I was?

The stuff spouted last week on that podcast was actually embarrassing.

The numbers would suggest other wise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty


the mocking of the chairman was way over the top and from somebody who is a so called professional person is worrying.

The denying of someone in a wheelchair access into a game from somebody who is a so called professional is worrying.

Don't know anyone who thought this was ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 09:00:54 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 07:25:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 24, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2023, 02:44:53 PM
Surely there is a wind up here?

Resorting to personal insults and you've lost the argument..

I wonder when this role becomes available again would anyone in their right mind apply for it knowing everything you do is scrutinised. Thankless task.

I've no love for the county board as I've stated on here many a time but the sh!te that's been spouted on here is absolutely terrible.

Some people need to give their heads a wobble.

Yeah the shite spouted about the SV lads on this message board in the last year is f**king disgraceful tbh

And the SV haven't spouted sh1te on the podcast? some personal insults threw about there. 

I'm not getting involved in a Tit for tat childish slandering match but it's actually embarrassing.

Had my suspicions but this response 110% confirms that this is tumelty


the mocking of the chairman was way over the top and from somebody who is a so called professional person is worrying.

The denying of someone in a wheelchair access into a game from somebody who is a so called professional is worrying.

Did I say it was ok? that was a disgrace and so is the spitting incident.

I've young kids and I'm telling them that 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Use the podcast for good, not a forum for cheap shots at the county and certain people and some people might take it seriously.  It's making whoever is doing it look immature and to be honest, a pair of complete t1ts.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 25, 2023, 08:53:21 AM
Any chance a new thread could be started for this crap?

EOC tried there to get back to the football chat with his predictions but then it took a turn again.

I would say the majority of us here would rather talk ball rather than see a few of you talking balls.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 25, 2023, 09:00:11 AM
Angelo vibes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2023, 09:21:20 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 25, 2023, 08:53:21 AM
Any chance a new thread could be started for this crap?

EOC tried there to get back to the football chat with his predictions but then it took a turn again.

I would say the majority of us here would rather talk ball rather than see a few of you talking balls.

👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
St Brigids v Naomh Eoin - St Johns by 4
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás---v---Tír na nÓg - MG by 2
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille---v---Naomh Gall - St Galls by 3
Naomh Éanna---v---Clann na hÉireann - Cargin by 4
Creggan---v---Lamh DheargKickhams GAC Creggan - Creggan by 5
Aghagallon---v---Roger Casements Portglenone - Ports by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 25, 2023, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
St Brigids v Naomh Eoin - St Johns by 4
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás---v---Tír na nÓg - MG by 2
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille---v---Naomh Gall - Ahoghill by2
Naomh Éanna---v---Clann na hÉireann - Endas by2
Creggan---v---Lamh DheargKickhams GAC Creggan - draw
Aghagallon---v---Roger Casements Portglenone - st Mary's by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
St Brigids v Naomh Eoin - St Johns by 4
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás---v---Tír na nÓg - MG by 5
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille---v---Naomh Gall - St Galls by 2
Naomh Éanna---v---Clann na hÉireann - Cargin by 2
Creggan---v---Lamh DheargKickhams GAC Creggan - Draw
Aghagallon---v---Roger Casements Portglenone - Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 25, 2023, 11:59:16 AM
St Brigids v Naomh Eoin - St Brigids by 2
Naomh Eargnait, Muine Glás---v---Tír na nÓg - MG by 4
Naomh Muire Achadh Eochaille---v---Naomh Gall - St Galls by 6
Naomh Éanna---v---Cargin - Endas by 2
Creggan---v---Lamh DheargKickhams GAC Creggan - Creggan by 2
Aghagallon---v---Roger Casements Portglenone - Agha by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 25, 2023, 12:19:59 PM
Ah lads this is boring, get the row going again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on April 25, 2023, 12:21:05 PM
St Brigids v Naomh Eoin - Biddies by 4
Moneyglass v Tír na nÓg - Moneyglass by 5
Clooney v St Galls - St Galls by 5
St Endas v Cargin - Cargin by 4
Creggan v Lamh Dhearg - Creggan by 5
Aghagallon v Casements - Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 25, 2023, 12:55:25 PM
Charity boxing match to buy the Chairman a new car:

The SVII -v- Tumelty & MR2, I'd pay to watch that

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 25, 2023, 12:19:59 PM
Ah lads this is boring, get the row going again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 25, 2023, 01:47:26 PM
have all the downeys transferred over to st.Brids or what is the story?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 25, 2023, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 25, 2023, 12:55:25 PM
Charity boxing match to buy the Chairman a new car:

The SVII -v- Tumelty & MR2, I'd pay to watch that

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 25, 2023, 12:19:59 PM
Ah lads this is boring, get the row going again

Who would this right enough, tumelty & MR2 would have a few tricks up their sleeve id bet.
PPV stuff for sure with Chris Kerr and Jerome Quinn on commentary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 25, 2023, 03:28:25 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 25, 2023, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 25, 2023, 12:55:25 PM
Charity boxing match to buy the Chairman a new car:

The SVII -v- Tumelty & MR2, I'd pay to watch that

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 25, 2023, 12:19:59 PM
Ah lads this is boring, get the row going again

Who would this right enough, tumelty & MR2 would have a few tricks up their sleeve id bet.
PPV stuff for sure with Chris Kerr and Jerome Quinn on commentary

PPV are ye wise, cost of living crisis on. First one free to air
Half time in the 1st Tailtean Cup match at corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on April 25, 2023, 04:10:20 PM
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Tag team match

The Legion of Saffron V The Voicewhackers

Worth £5 of any man's money
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2023, 05:02:02 PM
Have it at county convention, winners get PRO role.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2023, 10:30:28 AM
Game of the night for me tonight is Pete's men v the ports
A win will set Aghagallon up nicely a loss for ports again will do their mental frailties no good at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 26, 2023, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 25, 2023, 01:47:26 PM
have all the downeys transferred over to st.Brids or what is the story?

Oran & Enda played last week for St Bridget's.

Matthew & Callum are named for Derry's U20 Ulster Final & their club on the programme is 'St Bridget's'

So there's definitely 4 away, Shea is on the county senior panel, so time will tell with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2023, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: toby47 on April 26, 2023, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 25, 2023, 01:47:26 PM
have all the downeys transferred over to st.Brids or what is the story?

Oran & Enda played last week for St Bridget's.

Matthew & Callum are named for Derry's U20 Ulster Final & their club on the programme is 'St Bridget's'

So there's definitely 4 away, Shea is on the county senior panel, so time will tell with him.
Hard to believe that happened until you see it written in black and white like that in the programme.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2023, 12:55:10 PM
Quote from: toby47 on April 26, 2023, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 25, 2023, 01:47:26 PM
have all the downeys transferred over to st.Brids or what is the story?

Oran & Enda played last week for St Bridget's.

Matthew & Callum are named for Derry's U20 Ulster Final & their club on the programme is 'St Bridget's'

So there's definitely 4 away, Shea is on the county senior panel, so time will tell with him.


Shea Downey was included on their grading list for 2023
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 26, 2023, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on April 26, 2023, 10:30:28 AM
Game of the night for me tonight is Pete's men v the ports
A win will set Aghagallon up nicely a loss for ports again will do their mental frailties no good at all.

I think everyone is all too aware of RC shortcomings mentally come the business end of season.  But I doubt they will be too alarmed if they lose a couple of league games at this stage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 26, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
Interesting set of results in division one. St Brigids win again, cargin beat by st endas, aghagallon portglenone draw, ahoghill a surprise win over at galls and moneyglass beat randalstown. Ld Rossa must be the other game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2023, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 26, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
Interesting set of results in division one. St Brigids win again, cargin beat by st endas, aghagallon portglenone draw, ahoghill a surprise win over at galls and moneyglass beat randalstown. Ld Rossa must be the other game?
Good st Enda's team we came up against tonight. Fast, fit well organised. Massively positive.
Disgusting supporter/supporters at the changing room end a big negative!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 26, 2023, 09:53:22 PM
It was Creggan ld actually my mistake.... Ld won by 11.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 26, 2023, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2023, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 26, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
Interesting set of results in division one. St Brigids win again, cargin beat by st endas, aghagallon portglenone draw, ahoghill a surprise win over at galls and moneyglass beat randalstown. Ld Rossa must be the other game?
Good st Enda's team we came up against tonight. Fast, fit well organised. Massively positive.
Disgusting supporter/supporters at the changing room end a big negative!

Small group of supporters behind the goal, shouting personal insults to cargin players throughout the game...disgrace
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 26, 2023, 10:35:42 PM
Our game at Aghagallon was end to end stuff, with plenty of quality on view.  Finished in a draw but felt more like a win for us as we tagged on three late points. Peter McGrath definitely has kicked them on a bit, clear to see. Dermot McAleese back made a difference for us. Impressed with Aghagallons number 10, think he might be Jonny Hannon, he won't do their scoring average any harm with feet like that!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2023, 10:37:48 PM
Wee Geard be coming under a bit if preeure on the Loughran shore, put some players under threat if they didn't remove thenealves from county duty and concentrate on club, that doesn't seem to have worked out as he planned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 26, 2023, 10:56:28 PM
Maybe St Endas should rethink their policy of opening social club before matches the vile verbal abuse some of our young players got tonight was nothing short of disgraceful .the game was typical stuff for April one team up for it the other just getting on with it with no real effort really it's a long season ,hopefully the drunk Endas "supporters who hurled abuse at 18 year olds tonight make a visit to Toome for the return game,scum bastards and in front of primary school aged children too! But I'm sure they won't be seen theses brave men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2023, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2023, 10:37:48 PM
Wee Geard be coming under a bit if preeure on the Loughran shore, put some players under threat if they didn't remove thenealves from county duty and concentrate on club, that doesn't seem to have worked out as he planned
That's hardly true, especially with him being a full time employee of said county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2023, 11:02:36 PM
Believe it or not, just what I've heard as few months, would explain a couple of absentees from senior and u20 set ups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 26, 2023, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2023, 11:02:36 PM
Believe it or not, just what I've heard as few months, would explain a couple of absentees from senior and u20 set ups
I had heard young Duffin who is a great wee player had sat out the 20s to concentrate on club, which was a shame. But hadn't heard of any seniors. It's early in the season I still expect all the expected teams to be in the last 4 come August / Sept
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 26, 2023, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2023, 10:35:42 PM
Our game at Aghagallon was end to end stuff, with plenty of quality on view.  Finished in a draw but felt more like a win for us as we tagged on three late points. Peter McGrath definitely has kicked them on a bit, clear to see. Dermot McAleese back made a difference for us. Impressed with Aghagallons number 10, think he might be Jonny Hannon, he won't do their scoring average any harm with feet like that!

What did you think of the ref Bannside ? 10 free kicks to PG1 only 2-1 from play think agahagallon managed 1-5 from play and the rest frees and penalty. I thought he was very whistle happy for both a difficult night for defenders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2023, 11:12:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 26, 2023, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 26, 2023, 11:02:36 PM
Believe it or not, just what I've heard as few months, would explain a couple of absentees from senior and u20 set ups
I had heard young Duffin who is a great wee player had sat out the 20s to concentrate on club, which was a shame. But hadn't heard of any seniors. It's early in the season I still expect all the expected teams to be in the last 4 come August / Sept

I really don't see Creggan challenging for senior championship this season, think they have lost their mojo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 11:21:39 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on April 26, 2023, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2023, 10:35:42 PM
Our game at Aghagallon was end to end stuff, with plenty of quality on view.  Finished in a draw but felt more like a win for us as we tagged on three late points. Peter McGrath definitely has kicked them on a bit, clear to see. Dermot McAleese back made a difference for us. Impressed with Aghagallons number 10, think he might be Jonny Hannon, he won't do their scoring average any harm with feet like that!

What did you think of the ref Bannside ? 10 free kicks to PG1 only 2-1 from play think agahagallon managed 1-5 from play and the rest frees and penalty. I thought he was very whistle happy for both a difficult night for defenders

Did you count and advantages in those? Reason. I'm asking I gave around 6 tonight for one player alone, he probably thought I didn't want to give him a free!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on April 27, 2023, 07:44:27 AM
Wonder why Cargin have to close their social club, and this has always been the rule, during games...?

Are the Hightown men not aware of that rule....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on April 27, 2023, 08:10:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 11:21:39 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on April 26, 2023, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 26, 2023, 10:35:42 PM
Our game at Aghagallon was end to end stuff, with plenty of quality on view.  Finished in a draw but felt more like a win for us as we tagged on three late points. Peter McGrath definitely has kicked them on a bit, clear to see. Dermot McAleese back made a difference for us. Impressed with Aghagallons number 10, think he might be Jonny Hannon, he won't do their scoring average any harm with feet like that!

What did you think of the ref Bannside ? 10 free kicks to PG1 only 2-1 from play think agahagallon managed 1-5 from play and the rest frees and penalty. I thought he was very whistle happy for both a difficult night for defenders

Did you count and advantages in those? Reason. I'm asking I gave around 6 tonight for one player alone, he probably thought I didn't want to give him a free!

there was not much advantage given for anything in the scoreable zone- the advantage was played mostly around the middle. Don't think the ref let a lot go in general probably trying to keep a tight lid on the game as he had no umpires or linesmen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Been said in conversation a lot recently but it is getting harder and harder for refs who have to turn up to these games on their own with no linesmen and relying on the relevant clubs to do it.

Just seems to cause aggro and the ref can't see everything.

They could really do with another pairs of eyes at times as if they miss something they are damned by all and aren't really given the appropriate help from those on the line in a lot of cases due to bias.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:48:02 AM
On another note, sad news from St Comgalls this morning after the death of big Cormac Allen.

I am sure a few of you would remember him from his playing days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
That does seem to be an issue, however I have noticed at some of the games this year a few refs are trying to bring umpires with them for that extra cover

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Been said in conversation a lot recently but it is getting harder and harder for refs who have to turn up to these games on their own with no linesmen and relying on the relevant clubs to do it.

Just seems to cause aggro and the ref can't see everything.

They could really do with another pairs of eyes at times as if they miss something they are damned by all and aren't really given the appropriate help from those on the line in a lot of cases due to bias.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 27, 2023, 10:04:13 AM
great win last night for aghohill, anyone at the match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:15:57 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
That does seem to be an issue, however I have noticed at some of the games this year a few refs are trying to bring umpires with them for that extra cover

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Been said in conversation a lot recently but it is getting harder and harder for refs who have to turn up to these games on their own with no linesmen and relying on the relevant clubs to do it.

Just seems to cause aggro and the ref can't see everything.

They could really do with another pairs of eyes at times as if they miss something they are damned by all and aren't really given the appropriate help from those on the line in a lot of cases due to bias.

We can't get cover for the games never mind getting linesmen or umpires...

A lot of ref's will be doing 3 or more games over the weekend some two in one day. It's nearly impossible to have umpires from your club as the club has a game at same time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 27, 2023, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:15:57 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
That does seem to be an issue, however I have noticed at some of the games this year a few refs are trying to bring umpires with them for that extra cover

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Been said in conversation a lot recently but it is getting harder and harder for refs who have to turn up to these games on their own with no linesmen and relying on the relevant clubs to do it.

Just seems to cause aggro and the ref can't see everything.

They could really do with another pairs of eyes at times as if they miss something they are damned by all and aren't really given the appropriate help from those on the line in a lot of cases due to bias.

We can't get cover for the games never mind getting linesmen or umpires...

A lot of ref's will be doing 3 or more games over the weekend some two in one day. It's nearly impossible to have umpires from your club as the club has a game at same time

Tumelty had umpires last night great help to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:43:43 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 27, 2023, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:15:57 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
That does seem to be an issue, however I have noticed at some of the games this year a few refs are trying to bring umpires with them for that extra cover

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Been said in conversation a lot recently but it is getting harder and harder for refs who have to turn up to these games on their own with no linesmen and relying on the relevant clubs to do it.

Just seems to cause aggro and the ref can't see everything.

They could really do with another pairs of eyes at times as if they miss something they are damned by all and aren't really given the appropriate help from those on the line in a lot of cases due to bias.

We can't get cover for the games never mind getting linesmen or umpires...

A lot of ref's will be doing 3 or more games over the weekend some two in one day. It's nearly impossible to have umpires from your club as the club has a game at same time

Tumelty had umpires last night great help to him

Had them Wed night but its not always a given, the majority of games covered last night didn't and until championship its not always readily available

Glad to see you were happy with his performance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 10:46:37 AM
From what I've seen this year, about 10 senior games, the level of refereeing has been very poor.  Last night was the worst and that's not to be harsh on the fellas, but there has been maybe 1 good ref for every 3/4 bad.
I don't think linesmen or umpires is the issue, I'm talking about general play around the middle third, linesmem would of course help for some decisions.  I understand being a referee is difficult job at times but I'm talking about obvious and clear errors and not 50:50 tackles.
Not sure what the solution is, the rules sometimes don't help but I'm sure if more ex players took up the whistle it would help.  The chances of that happening is probably null.  And before anyone says I'm being hyper critical for no reason, that's not my intention and I've done the referee test before and scored >90% so I do have a fairly decent understanding of the rules too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on April 27, 2023, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:43:43 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on April 27, 2023, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:15:57 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
That does seem to be an issue, however I have noticed at some of the games this year a few refs are trying to bring umpires with them for that extra cover

Quote from: barnish oggie on April 27, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
Been said in conversation a lot recently but it is getting harder and harder for refs who have to turn up to these games on their own with no linesmen and relying on the relevant clubs to do it.

Just seems to cause aggro and the ref can't see everything.

They could really do with another pairs of eyes at times as if they miss something they are damned by all and aren't really given the appropriate help from those on the line in a lot of cases due to bias.

We can't get cover for the games never mind getting linesmen or umpires...

A lot of ref's will be doing 3 or more games over the weekend some two in one day. It's nearly impossible to have umpires from your club as the club has a game at same time

Tumelty had umpires last night great help to him

Had them Wed night but its not always a given, the majority of games covered last night didn't and until championship its not always readily available

Glad to see you were happy with his performance

haha to be fair he done Cargin last week too and he's not the worst... ;D ;D

Understandable can be hard to get people to do umpire for the refs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 10:54:14 AM
Care to elaborate what game you were at last night or are you talking about all the games last night?

Quote from: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 10:46:37 AM
From what I've seen this year, about 10 senior games, the level of refereeing has been very poor.  Last night was the worst and that's not to be harsh on the fellas, but there has been maybe 1 good ref for every 3/4 bad.
I don't think linesmen or umpires is the issue, I'm talking about general play around the middle third, linesmem would of course help for some decisions.  I understand being a referee is difficult job at times but I'm talking about obvious and clear errors and not 50:50 tackles.
Not sure what the solution is, the rules sometimes don't help but I'm sure if more ex players took up the whistle it would help.  The chances of that happening is probably null.  And before anyone says I'm being hyper critical for no reason, that's not my intention and I've done the referee test before and scored >90% so I do have a fairly decent understanding of the rules too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 10:54:14 AM
Care to elaborate what game you were at last night or are you talking about all the games last night?

Quote from: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 10:46:37 AM
From what I've seen this year, about 10 senior games, the level of refereeing has been very poor.  Last night was the worst and that's not to be harsh on the fellas, but there has been maybe 1 good ref for every 3/4 bad.
I don't think linesmen or umpires is the issue, I'm talking about general play around the middle third, linesmem would of course help for some decisions.  I understand being a referee is difficult job at times but I'm talking about obvious and clear errors and not 50:50 tackles.
Not sure what the solution is, the rules sometimes don't help but I'm sure if more ex players took up the whistle it would help.  The chances of that happening is probably null.  And before anyone says I'm being hyper critical for no reason, that's not my intention and I've done the referee test before and scored >90% so I do have a fairly decent understanding of the rules too

How could it be all the games?  I don't want to single this fella out no, as I know refs do their best and it's not intentional.  But it was 'in the city'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
I count 7 across the 3 divisions or are you only referring to Div 1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:58:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
I count 7 across the 3 divisions or are you only referring to Div 1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)

Yes.. I'm guessing framginn is a country man ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
I count 7 across the 3 divisions or are you only referring to Div 1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)

Interpret the response as you like, but it's going off point.
As players we train our asses off.  When we play matches we get shoulded to the head picking up ball, tackled with closed fists, high tackles around neck, 2 man tackled to ground for us to then get blown up for over carrying etc.  Look I agree some players and managers are completly out of order to referees which is wrong and I won't defend that, they don't deserve the comments they get, just like the Cargin lads didn't deserve what was mentioned last night. But as players we get ridiculed for bad results.  The backlash in this forum after Armagh and the whole Div3 was clear.  Even Andy too.  But yet it seems that as soon as anyone mentions a poor decision/performance after a game by a ref they are bang out of order.  As I said, I don't know the solution but that's my observation whether it's right or wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2023, 01:34:31 PM
The 11th commandment. Thou shalt not slag off a ref or MR will jump down your throat  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
I count 7 across the 3 divisions or are you only referring to Div 1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)

Interpret the response as you like, but it's going off point.
As players we train our asses off.  When we play matches we get shoulded to the head picking up ball, tackled with closed fists, high tackles around neck, 2 man tackled to ground for us to then get blown up for over carrying etc.  Look I agree some players and managers are completly out of order to referees which is wrong and I won't defend that, they don't deserve the comments they get, just like the Cargin lads didn't deserve what was mentioned last night. But as players we get ridiculed for bad results.  The backlash in this forum after Armagh and the whole Div3 was clear.  Even Andy too.  But yet it seems that as soon as anyone mentions a poor decision/performance after a game by a ref they are bang out of order.  As I said, I don't know the solution but that's my observation whether it's right or wrong

You'll not hear me giving off about county teams and the like with regards to performances, no one steps out on to a pitch to perform badly, it happens, even I have a bad day ;D ;D

Taking things to a personal level is different though, you can have constructive criticism or just be a nasty shite and go over the top. I'm generally the only one hear that will debate about the referee's otherwise it would be one way traffic. Or would you prefer it not to be challenged?

Closed fist yellow card by the book, open hand attempt on the ball ok, misses the ball a free, shoulder to the head by the book is a red card, high tackle around the neck is also a yellow depending on how bad it is it can be red.. I'd two of these last night, and typical aggro. This very rarely happens in hurling, why is it so different?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 02:18:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
I count 7 across the 3 divisions or are you only referring to Div 1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)

Interpret the response as you like, but it's going off point.
As players we train our asses off.  When we play matches we get shoulded to the head picking up ball, tackled with closed fists, high tackles around neck, 2 man tackled to ground for us to then get blown up for over carrying etc.  Look I agree some players and managers are completly out of order to referees which is wrong and I won't defend that, they don't deserve the comments they get, just like the Cargin lads didn't deserve what was mentioned last night. But as players we get ridiculed for bad results.  The backlash in this forum after Armagh and the whole Div3 was clear.  Even Andy too.  But yet it seems that as soon as anyone mentions a poor decision/performance after a game by a ref they are bang out of order.  As I said, I don't know the solution but that's my observation whether it's right or wrong

You'll not hear me giving off about county teams and the like with regards to performances, no one steps out on to a pitch to perform badly, it happens, even I have a bad day ;D ;D

Taking things to a personal level is different though, you can have constructive criticism or just be a nasty shite and go over the top. I'm generally the only one hear that will debate about the referee's otherwise it would be one way traffic. Or would you prefer it not to be challenged?

Closed fist yellow card by the book, open hand attempt on the ball ok, misses the ball a free, shoulder to the head by the book is a red card, high tackle around the neck is also a yellow depending on how bad it is it can be red.. I'd two of these last night, and typical aggro. This very rarely happens in hurling, why is it so different?

Debate is healthy if respectful, no one can be right 100% of time.  Everyone of those tackles happened last night and every outcome was over carrying.  I just think the standard has dropped.  How would you say standard has changed in last 5 years?  Or would your take be, you don't see enough as generally are reffing yourself?  I think we can both agree respect has dropped along with the number of actual refs.

High tackles in hurling are very common got, my take is players, especially at County, encourage tackling arms to slide up their body in tackles to that hight and then exaggerate the tackle as unlike football, frees are generally speaking a free shot on goal.  Could be completly wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 02:18:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on April 27, 2023, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on April 27, 2023, 12:50:21 PM
I count 7 across the 3 divisions or are you only referring to Div 1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 12:44:46 PM
Only one 'city' game last night  ;)

Interpret the response as you like, but it's going off point.
As players we train our asses off.  When we play matches we get shoulded to the head picking up ball, tackled with closed fists, high tackles around neck, 2 man tackled to ground for us to then get blown up for over carrying etc.  Look I agree some players and managers are completly out of order to referees which is wrong and I won't defend that, they don't deserve the comments they get, just like the Cargin lads didn't deserve what was mentioned last night. But as players we get ridiculed for bad results.  The backlash in this forum after Armagh and the whole Div3 was clear.  Even Andy too.  But yet it seems that as soon as anyone mentions a poor decision/performance after a game by a ref they are bang out of order.  As I said, I don't know the solution but that's my observation whether it's right or wrong

You'll not hear me giving off about county teams and the like with regards to performances, no one steps out on to a pitch to perform badly, it happens, even I have a bad day ;D ;D

Taking things to a personal level is different though, you can have constructive criticism or just be a nasty shite and go over the top. I'm generally the only one hear that will debate about the referee's otherwise it would be one way traffic. Or would you prefer it not to be challenged?

Closed fist yellow card by the book, open hand attempt on the ball ok, misses the ball a free, shoulder to the head by the book is a red card, high tackle around the neck is also a yellow depending on how bad it is it can be red.. I'd two of these last night, and typical aggro. This very rarely happens in hurling, why is it so different?

Debate is healthy if respectful, no one can be right 100% of time.  Everyone of those tackles happened last night and every outcome was over carrying.  I just think the standard has dropped.  How would you say standard has changed in last 5 years?  Or would your take be, you don't see enough as generally are reffing yourself?  I think we can both agree respect has dropped along with the number of actual refs.

High tackles in hurling are very common got, my take is players, especially at County, encourage tackling arms to slide up their body in tackles to that hight and then exaggerate the tackle as unlike football, frees are generally speaking a free shot on goal.  Could be completly wrong.

The situation you describe is common enough, players can take the ball into a 'challenge' and are held up as such, in some cases the players are trying to slap the ball all good and if the player doesnt release the ball it's overcarrying. If we gave a foul for that we'd be encouraging players to just run into a tackle and win a free.

When the pull at the hands or tackle anything but the ball its a foul or play advantage too see if the player can break the challenge

My take on hurling over football, certainly at senior level is that in most cases they just get on with the hard tackles and don't take it personally, in footballer that players take every tackle like they are slagging their manhood. I leave a football pitch needing some panadol and the hurling game with no tablets  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 27, 2023, 05:56:00 PM
aye but hurling is shite  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 06:53:38 PM
Aye I know, much prefer the lateral defensive 15 men behind the ball where the goal keeper scores more than attackers  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 27, 2023, 07:19:40 PM
Had heard that as well Saffsof82 about Sean Duffin. Was looking out for him after being so impressive last year, heard he was to be captain this year as far as I know but didn't turn up. Ironically, as it turned out his availability would almost certainly got us over the line against Donegal.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2023, 07:52:02 PM
Was O'Neill under 20? I think Hynds was too? A few we were missing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on April 27, 2023, 08:18:09 PM
Hopefully Ryan Murrays injury isn't as bad as it sounds. Would be a big miss to LD & Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 27, 2023, 08:58:28 PM
No ITG, those two just overage. Sean O Callaghan missed out because of injury, was captain during Leo Murphy league rounds. Decent player too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2023, 09:48:40 PM
Ah I did wonder. Cheers bs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2023, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 27, 2023, 08:58:28 PM
No ITG, those two just overage. Sean O Callaghan missed out because of injury, was captain during Leo Murphy league rounds. Decent player too.

Cracking footballer, I mind his dad playing for Glenravel. Tough defender also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 28, 2023, 06:56:37 AM
Shaun actually, not Sean. Agree PJ, one who could step up to senior ranks anytime soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2023, 03:18:28 PM
Three goals down in the minors  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2023, 03:18:28 PM
Three goals down in the minors  :(

Nothing about the great work Saffron Business Forum are doing after this or the Cavan result I'm guessing ?  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2023, 03:52:50 PM
Haven't scored yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 04:25:24 PM
Beat 8-17 to 0-2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 29, 2023, 04:49:31 PM
Going rightly the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2023, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 29, 2023, 04:49:31 PM
Going rightly the year

I think it's a two finger salute to the Antrim Twitter people
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 29, 2023, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2023, 03:18:28 PM
Three goals down in the minors  :(

Nothing about the great work Saffron Business Forum are doing after this or the Cavan result I'm guessing ?  :o
The business forum mustn't be raising that much when Antrim are asking clubs to contribute to building a gym at Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on April 29, 2023, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 04:25:24 PM
Beat 8-17 to 0-2

Downed tools after 7 minutes, the SV lads told them they didn't get mentioned on Twitter.  So they wanted to make a statement to the county board
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 30, 2023, 10:24:40 PM
Long day in omagh. Wasn't an unfair assessment to say we downed tools after the secondgoal. Sitting in a group of Tyrone faithful who could boost off a team full of hogan cup winners and gaps filled by the Donagh more lads. So yes they were light yers ahead of us but the way we capitulated so early was soul deastroying. A lot of this minor team are back next year but they will need to find a few on pitch leaders and quickly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 01, 2023, 07:52:09 AM
Another head scratching drive home Saffs, youve had more than your share of those this year! Tyrone could get ten seniors from that year group...we mightened get any. Management need to dust themselves down and go again, They can only work with the players our clubs are sending in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 01, 2023, 08:48:13 AM
Tyrone could probably put a 3rds team out and beat Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 01, 2023, 09:15:18 AM
And then some people are expecting this, that and the other from Andy McEntee.  We've been a mile off for years at underage.  It's bound to take its toll at senior.  Down in a similar position, have been underachieving. Laverty might turn the ship around but he had to face reality yesterday after a year in the job. And Armagh would need to watch out, their underage has been nothing to shout about for a long time as well. Derry and Tyrone just go from strength to strength.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 01, 2023, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 01, 2023, 07:52:09 AM
Another head scratching drive home Saffs, youve had more than your share of those this year! Tyrone could get ten seniors from that year group...we mightened get any. Management need to dust themselves down and go again, They can only work with the players our clubs are sending in!
Going to agree here, from what I have seen there are way too few clubs putting in any effort at underage level. This is where the fault lies for results like this. Tyrone have dozens of clubs putting In maximum effort Antrim have single figure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 01, 2023, 09:28:17 AM
Pains me to say in-laws are  Tyrone... From a Junior Club who can't get out of Div 3, bottom of the Tyrone barrell

I've seen them play a load and they would be top half Div 1 in Antrim.
Full of Hogan Cup winners, pace and doggedness, boys with maybe limited sporting ability who are just hardy and brute ignorant and  wouldn't let a man go past them. We let men waltz up the middle  (look at Armagh senior game) and score in a way they never would accept

We might get the odd 'I'll knack yer ballix in" slabber hit a Judas,  cowardly dig from behind your back in an Antrim league game but about as hard as fcuk-all in comparison to the boys above, not worth a f**k

They have a depth in that County we could only dream of matching

The sport is the County's Culture, its who they are and their teams are how they pride themselves. We just don't have that.

Like nearly every non GAA playing girl in their county would nearly know who they are playing that weekend and not have a bad word said about their county......that level of passion filters down to each child and they all want to play for their county.

She's 2 cousins who started and won underage all irelands in last year who can't make full Tyrone Senior squad.....they would both start for and massively improve Antrim Seniors.

The levels are just night and day

Interviewing Henry Sheeflin and  fawning over and clapping his achievements won't change that, it might get us some money, which all Counties need to keep operating

Realistically Leitrim won't win an All Ireland in 10 or 20 years and neither will Carlow and neither will we. We can keep trying but our ceiling will never be that high. Unless schools all start competing in McCrory etc that won't change. Clubs too, demanding more of players,  coaches who know the sport and coach with a higher level in mind

Other Counties like Tyrone, now with Ballygawley, Donaghmore  and Carrickmore in McCrory are massively widening the gap



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 01, 2023, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 01, 2023, 09:28:17 AM
Pains me to say in-laws are  Tyrone... From a Junior Club who can't get out of Div 3, bottom of the Tyrone barrell

I've seen them play a load and they would be top half Div 1 in Antrim.
Full of Hogan Cup winners, pace and doggedness, boys with maybe limited sporting ability who are just hardy and brute ignorant and  wouldn't let a man go past them. We let men waltz up the middle  (look at Armagh senior game) and score in a way they never would accept

We might get the odd 'I'll knack yer ballix in" slabber hit a Judas,  cowardly dig from behind your back in an Antrim league game but about as hard as fcuk-all in comparison to the boys above, not worth a f**k

They have a depth in that County we could only dream of matching

The sport is the County's Culture, its who they are and their teams are how they pride themselves. We just don't have that.

Like nearly every non GAA playing girl in their county would nearly know who they are playing that weekend and not have a bad word said about their county......that level of passion filters down to each child and they all want to play for their county.

She's 2 cousins who started and won underage all irelands in last year who can't make full Tyrone Senior squad.....they would both start for and massively improve Antrim Seniors.

The levels are just night and day

Interviewing Henry Sheeflin and  fawning over and clapping his achievements won't change that, it might get us some money, which all Counties need to keep operating

Realistically Leitrim won't win an All Ireland in 10 or 20 years and neither will Carlow and neither will we. We can keep trying but our ceiling will never be that high. Unless schools all start competing in McCrory etc that won't change. Clubs too, demanding more of players,  coaches who know the sport and coach with a higher level in mind

Other Counties like Tyrone, now with Ballygawley, Donaghmore  and Carrickmore in McCrory are massively widening the gap

Nail on head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 01, 2023, 10:45:32 AM
Would you not be better going down the route of Belfast Colleges in McRory?

Understand that some of the schools will include Down players - Bredagh/Carryduff/Ards but think it would be worth it as a start.

Derry City schools are worse again. Promoting that soccer crap constantly. St Columbs Derry in particular have gone to the dogs.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 01, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 01, 2023, 10:45:32 AM
Would you not be better going down the route of Belfast Colleges in McRory?

Understand that some of the schools will include Down players - Bredagh/Carryduff/Ards but think it would be worth it as a start.

Derry City schools are worse again. Promoting that soccer crap constantly. St Columbs Derry in particular have gone to the dogs.

Before the schools comes the clubs.  That's the problem.  That's the start of the production line.

Too late when they go to secondary if the work hasn't been put in. Competition in local clubs drives things on.

Look at Derry senior, U20 and minor teams currently. I'd say 95% of the first 15, maybe more are from south Derry. It's the clubs that are driving things on.

Tyrone have that whereas Antrim don't. That's the reality.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 01, 2023, 11:05:13 AM
Disagree WC. Winning a McRory cup is not THE prize, even if that was achievable!  I'd rather our four or five big schools made a proper concentrated effort at winning McLarnon, at least we would have 150 players being prepared each year, than 20 Antrim and 20 Down.

We need these schools to properly aspire to putting in the work from year 8 and upwards and be competing in all their year group comps. And to give them a chance Clubs need to step up and send in better quality, and county dev squads need to take the lads under them to a higher level, at least individually (S&C etc).

Irs a long hard road and there's no short cuts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 01, 2023, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 01, 2023, 11:05:13 AM
Disagree WC. Winning a McRory cup is not THE prize, even if that was achievable!  I'd rather our four or five big schools made a proper concentrated effort at winning McLarnon, at least we would have 150 players being prepared each year, than 20 Antrim and 20 Down.

We need these schools to properly aspire to putting in the work from year 8 and upwards and be competing in all their year group comps. And to give them a chance Clubs need to step up and send in better quality, and county dev squads need to take the lads under them to a higher level, at least individually (S&C etc).

Irs a long hard road and there's no short cuts.

The key question is - is there a 10 year plan to achieve this?

Just seems to me that Antrim just roll from one year to the next doing the same thing...definition of insanity and all that!

Is there a plan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 01, 2023, 01:34:59 PM
Knock (from the outside) seems to be the best GAA school in Belfast. Poor reflection on West Belfast. St Mary's and La Salle seem to have disappeared - in both codes!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 01, 2023, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 01, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 01, 2023, 10:45:32 AM
Would you not be better going down the route of Belfast Colleges in McRory?

Understand that some of the schools will include Down players - Bredagh/Carryduff/Ards but think it would be worth it as a start.

Derry City schools are worse again. Promoting that soccer crap constantly. St Columbs Derry in particular have gone to the dogs.

Before the schools comes the clubs.  That's the problem.  That's the start of the production line.

Too late when they go to secondary if the work hasn't been put in. Competition in local clubs drives things on.

Look at Derry senior, U20 and minor teams currently. I'd say 95% of the first 15, maybe more are from south Derry. It's the clubs that are driving things on.

Tyrone have that whereas Antrim don't. That's the reality.

Gotta agree with that....
Chatted to Adrian Nc Guckin on the same subject years since and he told me clubs provide the raw product to St Pats Maghera and the college provides the finished product for Mc Crory success...

Said before therein lies the key to Cargin's success....relatively small catchment area, but almost 100% attendance to South Derry schools....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on May 01, 2023, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 01, 2023, 09:28:17 AM
Pains me to say in-laws are  Tyrone... From a Junior Club who can't get out of Div 3, bottom of the Tyrone barrell

I've seen them play a load and they would be top half Div 1 in Antrim.
Full of Hogan Cup winners, pace and doggedness, boys with maybe limited sporting ability who are just hardy and brute ignorant and  wouldn't let a man go past them. We let men waltz up the middle  (look at Armagh senior game) and score in a way they never would accept

We might get the odd 'I'll knack yer ballix in" slabber hit a Judas,  cowardly dig from behind your back in an Antrim league game but about as hard as fcuk-all in comparison to the boys above, not worth a f**k

They have a depth in that County we could only dream of matching

The sport is the County's Culture, its who they are and their teams are how they pride themselves. We just don't have that.

Like nearly every non GAA playing girl in their county would nearly know who they are playing that weekend and not have a bad word said about their county......that level of passion filters down to each child and they all want to play for their county.

She's 2 cousins who started and won underage all irelands in last year who can't make full Tyrone Senior squad.....they would both start for and massively improve Antrim Seniors.

The levels are just night and day

Interviewing Henry Sheeflin and  fawning over and clapping his achievements won't change that, it might get us some money, which all Counties need to keep operating

Realistically Leitrim won't win an All Ireland in 10 or 20 years and neither will Carlow and neither will we. We can keep trying but our ceiling will never be that high. Unless schools all start competing in McCrory etc that won't change. Clubs too, demanding more of players,  coaches who know the sport and coach with a higher level in mind

Other Counties like Tyrone, now with Ballygawley, Donaghmore  and Carrickmore in McCrory are massively widening the gap
No they wouldn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Take_her_back_ref on May 01, 2023, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on May 01, 2023, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 01, 2023, 09:28:17 AM
Pains me to say in-laws are  Tyrone... From a Junior Club who can't get out of Div 3, bottom of the Tyrone barrell

I've seen them play a load and they would be top half Div 1 in Antrim.
Full of Hogan Cup winners, pace and doggedness, boys with maybe limited sporting ability who are just hardy and brute ignorant and  wouldn't let a man go past them. We let men waltz up the middle  (look at Armagh senior game) and score in a way they never would accept

We might get the odd 'I'll knack yer ballix in" slabber hit a Judas,  cowardly dig from behind your back in an Antrim league game but about as hard as fcuk-all in comparison to the boys above, not worth a f**k

They have a depth in that County we could only dream of matching

The sport is the County's Culture, its who they are and their teams are how they pride themselves. We just don't have that.

Like nearly every non GAA playing girl in their county would nearly know who they are playing that weekend and not have a bad word said about their county......that level of passion filters down to each child and they all want to play for their county.

She's 2 cousins who started and won underage all irelands in last year who can't make full Tyrone Senior squad.....they would both start for and massively improve Antrim Seniors.

The levels are just night and day

Interviewing Henry Sheeflin and  fawning over and clapping his achievements won't change that, it might get us some money, which all Counties need to keep operating

Realistically Leitrim won't win an All Ireland in 10 or 20 years and neither will Carlow and neither will we. We can keep trying but our ceiling will never be that high. Unless schools all start competing in McCrory etc that won't change. Clubs too, demanding more of players,  coaches who know the sport and coach with a higher level in mind

Other Counties like Tyrone, now with Ballygawley, Donaghmore  and Carrickmore in McCrory are massively widening the gap
No they wouldn't

Spot on. If you can't get out of D3 in Tyrone then there's no way you'd be sit comfortably mid D1 in Antrim.

The quality is better across all 3 divisions in Tyrone but not a lot. The main difference is the gap between the top teams and lower teams is much smaller leading to many more competitive games and a bigger battle to get out of that league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2023, 06:54:59 PM
Tyrone teams couldn't buy a win in Ulster club ffs!! They are shite  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 01, 2023, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2023, 10:10:38 AM
Well done Tony, Lawrence and to all involved. Great to see the level of organisation behind this, probably 8 or 9 of a management team with nothing left to chance and shout out to Paddy Kelly who's doing superb work behind the scenes.

You cant underestimate the influence of Saffron Vision in all this and one of their main successes being the establishment of Saffron Business Forum which is a big driver in ensuring the funds are in place to enable our squads are properly prepared.

We are still a long way of winning silverware, but a lot of essential boxes are starting to be ticked!

This is what the PR arm of the Antrim board told us after the Armagh minor draw 🥹

A bit hasty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 01, 2023, 08:56:10 PM
Shocking result SG, shows us how far the road ahead is that we need to travel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2023, 10:23:41 PM
I think we'd be top division moaners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2023, 02:45:39 PM
Leitrim , Wexford and Fermanagh.

This will be a good test for us. If we've gone to the dogs we will beat no-one there however it's a group that if we get firing we could push to win. Jury very much out yet but here's hoping...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 02, 2023, 04:34:06 PM
Lots of football action this week-end....senior and reserve games with under-17 as well as u-19 games....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 02, 2023, 05:12:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 02, 2023, 04:34:06 PM
Lots of football action this week-end....senior and reserve games with under-17 as well as u-19 games....

Possible that some of the u17 games scheduled for Sat evening may be changed as the feile u15 is on during the day at different venues and there may be an overlap of players for some clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on May 02, 2023, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 02, 2023, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 01, 2023, 11:05:13 AM
Disagree WC. Winning a McRory cup is not THE prize, even if that was achievable!  I'd rather our four or five big schools made a proper concentrated effort at winning McLarnon, at least we would have 150 players being prepared each year, than 20 Antrim and 20 Down.

We need these schools to properly aspire to putting in the work from year 8 and upwards and be competing in all their year group comps. And to give them a chance Clubs need to step up and send in better quality, and county dev squads need to take the lads under them to a higher level, at least individually (S&C etc).

Irs a long hard road and there's no short cuts.
I suppose you could then ask how Down are taking similar tankings to us at minor level? I'd say they have a right few boys playing A football right through school with St Colman's and the Abbey, they aren't splitting their resources with hurling anywhere near the same as we are, yet they are nowhere near the ballpark at county minor level.

Down have literally just won back to back u20s.  So what if they have 1 bad underage team.... Comparing us to them is a bit disrespectful to Down and we are certainly not even close to being in similar positions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on May 02, 2023, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on May 02, 2023, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 02, 2023, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 01, 2023, 11:05:13 AM
Disagree WC. Winning a McRory cup is not THE prize, even if that was achievable!  I'd rather our four or five big schools made a proper concentrated effort at winning McLarnon, at least we would have 150 players being prepared each year, than 20 Antrim and 20 Down.

We need these schools to properly aspire to putting in the work from year 8 and upwards and be competing in all their year group comps. And to give them a chance Clubs need to step up and send in better quality, and county dev squads need to take the lads under them to a higher level, at least individually (S&C etc).

Irs a long hard road and there's no short cuts.
I suppose you could then ask how Down are taking similar tankings to us at minor level? I'd say they have a right few boys playing A football right through school with St Colman's and the Abbey, they aren't splitting their resources with hurling anywhere near the same as we are, yet they are nowhere near the ballpark at county minor level.

Down have literally just won back to back u20s.  So what if they have 1 bad underage team.... Comparing us to them is a bit disrespectful to Down and we are certainly not even close to being in similar positions

Sorry 2/3 but point stands
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
Before we think about winning minor championships and McRorys, which are miles off, why don't we focus on producing 25 of the best players we've ever had, from a group of males currently aged 10 to 16.

I think this is achievable by the way, and see some real talent in that age bracket, many who have much more leg miles on the clock already than their peers of a decade ago. These kids are getting blitz comps every week, better (if not worldbeating) emphasis at schools and county facilities are now in place.

Dunsilly has grounds, lights, now a state of the art gymnasium planned costing a lot of money. Things we just couldn't say a few years back.

What's missing is some joined up thinking aligned to a plan as rightly alluded to here earlier.  For the ultra pessimists within us, you need to open your eyes and see that the glass is well and truly half full...let's fill it further in the coming years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2023, 10:22:50 PM
Development squads are great but a type of academy needs to be set up allowing these lads to have the best of attention, specialised training, strength and conditioning and so on..

Who's going to pay for that? It would take some buy in by clubs mentors parents, major commitments.

Is there enough interest actually out there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 04:13:14 AM
There could be MR if this is set up and driven. The business community would step up if they saw something really proper and meaningful to invest in. The plan and the people behind it are key.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 03, 2023, 08:39:05 AM
All well and good but a 5/10 year plan is needed.

This vision needs to be put on paper.

Key thing is it needs to be assessed every year and people held accountable.  More often than not, these plans are sold to people in glossy brochures and via Twitter and Facebook etc. 

Needs to be an open review and feedback etc. at the end of each year and need to release a report re: objectives and targets etc.

No point in just announcing it and then hearing nothing from it afterwards. People need to be held accountable, then the jobs get done...hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
Before we think about winning minor championships and McRorys, which are miles off, why don't we focus on producing 25 of the best players we've ever had, from a group of males currently aged 10 to 16.

I think this is achievable by the way, and see some real talent in that age bracket, many who have much more leg miles on the clock already than their peers of a decade ago. These kids are getting blitz comps every week, better (if not worldbeating) emphasis at schools and county facilities are now in place.

Dunsilly has grounds, lights, now a state of the art gymnasium planned costing a lot of money. Things we just couldn't say a few years back.

What's missing is some joined up thinking aligned to a plan as rightly alluded to here earlier.  For the ultra pessimists within us, you need to open your eyes and see that the glass is well and truly half full...let's fill it further in the coming years.
10-16? That would be handy for Portglenone with the apparent dream team of u14s you boys have ;D
On a serious note, for me its great having these development squads, but for the most part our system is a tick box exercise. I have even heard recent cases where people who literally have no experience of playing or coaching in GAA are part of management structures, and coming from clubs who don't even field underage teams and are putting in zero effort to do so. Get real hand pick your coaches at each age and drive it on from there, that would be a starting point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 03, 2023, 09:17:08 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 02, 2023, 05:12:53 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 02, 2023, 04:34:06 PM
Lots of football action this week-end....senior and reserve games with under-17 as well as u-19 games....

Possible that some of the u17 games scheduled for Sat evening may be changed as the feile u15 is on during the day at different venues and there may be an overlap of players for some clubs

Yes I would say a good few of the U17 games will be rescheduled, I know we have rescheduled ours as we couldn't field without U15s and I know other teams in the same boat.

Would love to know who thought it would be a good idea to schedule U17 league matches on U15 Feile day and didn't think there would be an issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
Before we think about winning minor championships and McRorys, which are miles off, why don't we focus on producing 25 of the best players we've ever had, from a group of males currently aged 10 to 16.

I think this is achievable by the way, and see some real talent in that age bracket, many who have much more leg miles on the clock already than their peers of a decade ago. These kids are getting blitz comps every week, better (if not worldbeating) emphasis at schools and county facilities are now in place.

Dunsilly has grounds, lights, now a state of the art gymnasium planned costing a lot of money. Things we just couldn't say a few years back.

What's missing is some joined up thinking aligned to a plan as rightly alluded to here earlier.  For the ultra pessimists within us, you need to open your eyes and see that the glass is well and truly half full...let's fill it further in the coming years.
10-16? That would be handy for Portglenone with the apparent dream team of u14s you boys have ;D
On a serious note, for me its great having these development squads, but for the most part our system is a tick box exercise. I have even heard recent cases where people who literally have no experience of playing or coaching in GAA are part of management structures, and coming from clubs who don't even field underage teams and are putting in zero effort to do so. Get real hand pick your coaches at each age and drive it on from there, that would be a starting point.

Totally agree with this part! Expert coaches would be a start! Not someone who has a son on the panel. Belfast needs to be flooded with coaches and promoted massively too. Antrim needs a strong city base of players and a number of the country clubs need to get their act together as well. IMO the most thing is school football but the other bits need to be there first.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 03, 2023, 09:28:35 AM
The Chrissy McKaigue model in slaughneil is something that would be massive for clubs. If only money were no object
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 03, 2023, 09:34:02 AM
Here's a very interesting article about the actions Derry have taken that has led to their resurgence. https://bit.ly/3AQxVTQ

It contains a copy of Derry's "5 Year Strategic Coaching & Development Strategy" which started in 2021.

Do Antrim have a similar strategy in place? And if not, why not? It's time to start holding people accountable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 03, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
I believe playing A schools football is a massive factor to succession at underage, all you have to do is look at our current club scene cargin and creggan alot of their players attend south derry school where football is a massive part of the culture in the schools, aghagallon most of their players are heading to st ronans.

Macory cup is the highest level fo football you can play at that age imo bigger than the county...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 03, 2023, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 03, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
I believe playing A schools football is a massive factor to succession at underage, all you have to do is look at our current club scene cargin and creggan alot of their players attend south derry school where football is a massive part of the culture in the schools, aghagallon most of their players are heading to st ronans.

Macory cup is the highest level fo football you can play at that age imo bigger than the county...

Cargin, Creggan etc are producing the players for the schools, not the other way about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 03, 2023, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 03, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
I believe playing A schools football is a massive factor to succession at underage, all you have to do is look at our current club scene cargin and creggan alot of their players attend south derry school where football is a massive part of the culture in the schools, aghagallon most of their players are heading to st ronans.

Macory cup is the highest level fo football you can play at that age imo bigger than the county...

Cargin, Creggan etc are producing the players for the schools, not the other way about

But they get brought on massively by playing at those schools. I would argue that a lot of the lads from those clubs wouldn't have had the careers they have had if they didn't go to those schools. Playing schools football is as close to professional as you can get at that age. Way ahead of most county setups.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:35:34 AM
Great points being made.

There is a running order to all this, if one goes ahead of the other,  all could be lost.

Buy in from coiste bainiste. Either they see a problem that needs  fixed - and has the will to do something PROPER about it, or they don't.  That's the first question/hurdle. Things CAN start happening from that point onwards, there's a business community who will support the right plan, delivered by the right people. Imo.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 03, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
I believe Gaelfast should work hand in hand with a Belfast school to bring someone in to go around the clubs and poach players to come to the school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:43:29 AM
So let the clubs in the border counties send their kids to Maghera Mfelt or Lurgan schools, that's not going yo change. But it's the other schools we need to "encourage " to do more.

Would it be a ludicrous idea for the county to supply 2/3 full time coaches and make available to Antrims leading schools, in a meet you halfway kind of agreement for schools to start taking their GAA aspirations to the next kevel!

Could these salaries not be shared between school, SBF, and  business supporters of a new plan for Antrim football. Build this INTO the plan.

Even start with one and build....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 03, 2023, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:43:29 AM
So let the clubs in the border counties send their kids to Maghera Mfelt or Lurgan schools, that's not going yo change. But it's the other schools we need to "encourage " to do more.

Would it be a ludicrous idea for the county to supply 2/3 full time coaches and make available to Antrims leading schools, in a meet you halfway kind of agreement for schools to start taking their GAA aspirations to the next kevel!

Could these salaries not be shared between school, SBF, and  business supporters of a new plan for Antrim football. Build this INTO the plan.

Even start with one and build....

Exactly what needs to be done :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:43:29 AM
So let the clubs in the border counties send their kids to Maghera Mfelt or Lurgan schools, that's not going yo change. But it's the other schools we need to "encourage " to do more.

Would it be a ludicrous idea for the county to supply 2/3 full time coaches and make available to Antrims leading schools, in a meet you halfway kind of agreement for schools to start taking their GAA aspirations to the next kevel!

Could these salaries not be shared between school, SBF, and  business supporters of a new plan for Antrim football. Build this INTO the plan.

Even start with one and build....
Don't like looking enviously toward our neighbours in Derry but they have installed coaches (Killian Conlan, End Muldoon and Gavin McGeehan) in St Pius, St Pats Maghera and St Marys Magherafelt, mostly funded by Derry GAA. And thats 3 schools that already had good systems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 03, 2023, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
Before we think about winning minor championships and McRorys, which are miles off, why don't we focus on producing 25 of the best players we've ever had, from a group of males currently aged 10 to 16.

I think this is achievable by the way, and see some real talent in that age bracket, many who have much more leg miles on the clock already than their peers of a decade ago. These kids are getting blitz comps every week, better (if not worldbeating) emphasis at schools and county facilities are now in place.

Dunsilly has grounds, lights, now a state of the art gymnasium planned costing a lot of money. Things we just couldn't say a few years back.

What's missing is some joined up thinking aligned to a plan as rightly alluded to here earlier.  For the ultra pessimists within us, you need to open your eyes and see that the glass is well and truly half full...let's fill it further in the coming years.
10-16? That would be handy for Portglenone with the apparent dream team of u14s you boys have ;D
On a serious note, for me its great having these development squads, but for the most part our system is a tick box exercise. I have even heard recent cases where people who literally have no experience of playing or coaching in GAA are part of management structures, and coming from clubs who don't even field underage teams and are putting in zero effort to do so. Get real hand pick your coaches at each age and drive it on from there, that would be a starting point.

Totally agree with this part! Expert coaches would be a start! Not someone who has a son on the panel. Belfast needs to be flooded with coaches and promoted massively too. Antrim needs a strong city base of players and a number of the country clubs need to get their act together as well. IMO the most thing is school football but the other bits need to be there first.

Its all ok to sit on your arm chair and write this crap here. Get involed if you think you know better. Your always going to have coaches follow their kids with teams.
Pretty sure most of the people on here are far from sitting in armchairs, seems alot of referees, coaches and others who care.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 03, 2023, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
Before we think about winning minor championships and McRorys, which are miles off, why don't we focus on producing 25 of the best players we've ever had, from a group of males currently aged 10 to 16.

I think this is achievable by the way, and see some real talent in that age bracket, many who have much more leg miles on the clock already than their peers of a decade ago. These kids are getting blitz comps every week, better (if not worldbeating) emphasis at schools and county facilities are now in place.

Dunsilly has grounds, lights, now a state of the art gymnasium planned costing a lot of money. Things we just couldn't say a few years back.

What's missing is some joined up thinking aligned to a plan as rightly alluded to here earlier.  For the ultra pessimists within us, you need to open your eyes and see that the glass is well and truly half full...let's fill it further in the coming years.
10-16? That would be handy for Portglenone with the apparent dream team of u14s you boys have ;D
On a serious note, for me its great having these development squads, but for the most part our system is a tick box exercise. I have even heard recent cases where people who literally have no experience of playing or coaching in GAA are part of management structures, and coming from clubs who don't even field underage teams and are putting in zero effort to do so. Get real hand pick your coaches at each age and drive it on from there, that would be a starting point.

Totally agree with this part! Expert coaches would be a start! Not someone who has a son on the panel. Belfast needs to be flooded with coaches and promoted massively too. Antrim needs a strong city base of players and a number of the country clubs need to get their act together as well. IMO the most thing is school football but the other bits need to be there first.

Its all ok to sit on your arm chair and write this crap here. Get involed if you think you know better. Your always going to have coaches follow their kids with teams.

I get coaches following their kids in club setups (even though this can be detrimental at times) but not at county level ffs. It's much to higher level for wee Jonny's da to step in to the county underage team. Talk sense ffs.

And I do coach btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 03, 2023, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 03, 2023, 09:28:35 AM
The Chrissy McKaigue model in slaughneil is something that would be massive for clubs. If only money were no object

Dungiven introduced it a few years ago and are reaping the rewards. Remains to be seen how successful Chrissy is. He's being paid by a few v wealthy benefactors. Not all clubs can do that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 03, 2023, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 03, 2023, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 03, 2023, 09:28:35 AM
The Chrissy McKaigue model in slaughneil is something that would be massive for clubs. If only money were no object

Dungiven introduced it a few years ago and are reaping the rewards. Remains to be seen how successful Chrissy is. He's being paid by a few v wealthy benefactors. Not all clubs can do that!

What exactly is the model ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on May 03, 2023, 12:00:36 PM
The successful schools no doubt have a high standard set up but the clubs around them are providing the players.

We can debate on here to the cows come home but our clubs as a whole aren't as strong as in Tyrone or Derry for example.

It's up to us to make sure our clubs are as good as they can be and the rest will follow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 03, 2023, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 02, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
Before we think about winning minor championships and McRorys, which are miles off, why don't we focus on producing 25 of the best players we've ever had, from a group of males currently aged 10 to 16.

I think this is achievable by the way, and see some real talent in that age bracket, many who have much more leg miles on the clock already than their peers of a decade ago. These kids are getting blitz comps every week, better (if not worldbeating) emphasis at schools and county facilities are now in place.

Dunsilly has grounds, lights, now a state of the art gymnasium planned costing a lot of money. Things we just couldn't say a few years back.

What's missing is some joined up thinking aligned to a plan as rightly alluded to here earlier.  For the ultra pessimists within us, you need to open your eyes and see that the glass is well and truly half full...let's fill it further in the coming years.
10-16? That would be handy for Portglenone with the apparent dream team of u14s you boys have ;D
On a serious note, for me its great having these development squads, but for the most part our system is a tick box exercise. I have even heard recent cases where people who literally have no experience of playing or coaching in GAA are part of management structures, and coming from clubs who don't even field underage teams and are putting in zero effort to do so. Get real hand pick your coaches at each age and drive it on from there, that would be a starting point.

Totally agree with this part! Expert coaches would be a start! Not someone who has a son on the panel. Belfast needs to be flooded with coaches and promoted massively too. Antrim needs a strong city base of players and a number of the country clubs need to get their act together as well. IMO the most thing is school football but the other bits need to be there first.

Its all ok to sit on your arm chair and write this crap here. Get involed if you think you know better. Your always going to have coaches follow their kids with teams.

I get coaches following their kids in club setups (even though this can be detrimental at times) but not at county level ffs. It's much to higher level for wee Jonny's da to step in to the county underage team. Talk sense ffs.

And I do coach btw
Some extreme examples of the county set up parent thing, U17 footballers two years ago was shocking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 12:14:02 PM
No doubt about that Dreen. Its clubs responsibility first and foremost.But we should aspire to having better quality coaching programmes in our co development squads and in our schools as well.

Need all 3 contributing to guarantee same quality mileage going into our juveniles as the more successful counties.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 03, 2023, 12:19:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 03, 2023, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 03, 2023, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 03, 2023, 09:28:35 AM
The Chrissy McKaigue model in slaughneil is something that would be massive for clubs. If only money were no object

Dungiven introduced it a few years ago and are reaping the rewards. Remains to be seen how successful Chrissy is. He's being paid by a few v wealthy benefactors. Not all clubs can do that!

What exactly is the model ?

Dungiven appointed Emmet Stewart I think who was a Derry GAA coach. I believe his remit is to oversee all coaching/put structures in place to develop players in all codes. Certainly not an easy task but Dungiven are now in the top 3/4 teams in each age group this past few years. They also won an Ulster minor title last year so things are on the up. Huge for Derry too as they haven't provided county players (bar one or two fringe players) really in the past 15 or more years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on May 03, 2023, 12:26:05 PM
Agree on that Bannside for sure.

I would say that clubs need to be providing the best coaches to work at county level.

It takes clubs with a strong GAA culture for that to be able to happen and again would show a big difference between ourselves and some other counties.

We have too many young players playing say on a Thursday night at u15 level who just play Gaelic, they have no ambition to be senior footballers for their club never mind their county and truth be told we have had too many coaches over the years who will disappear from a club when their child stops playing.

Clubs are for life not just for Christmas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 12:30:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 12:14:02 PM
No doubt about that Dreen. Its clubs responsibility first and foremost.But we should aspire to having better quality coaching programmes in our co development squads and in our schools as well.

Need all 3 contributing to guarantee same quality mileage going into our juveniles as the more successful counties.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/offaly-rising-after-years-regression-24749726

An brief insight into what Offaly did to create recent success at underage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 12:36:44 PM
Any predictions for tonight's rounds of games. Just because most had a 50% or less correct prediction rate last week means you have to stop...lol.

PG1 host a St Brigids team that have been flying recently, never much between us!

Cargin home to Aghagallon another interesting one. Cargin might not care whether they win the league or not (I understand that) but we have been around long enough to know they don't like losing, even a friendly, so I expect to see the real Cargin standing up tonight.

Anyone wishing to stick their neck out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 12:41:09 PM
St Johns - Rossa (St Johns by 3)
LD - Ahoghill (Draw)
TNN - St Endas (St Endas by 5, though depends if county players can play
Cargin - Aghagllon (Cargin by 3)
St Galls - Moneyglass (St Galls by 4)
Portglenone - St Brigid Lavey - (Portglenone by 3)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 03, 2023, 12:52:11 PM
St Johns - Rossa (St Johns by 4)
LD - Ahoghill (Ahogill by 1)
TNN - St Endas (St Endas by 7,)
Cargin - Aghagllon (Draw)
St Galls - Moneyglass (St Galls by 1)
Portglenone - St Brigid - (Portglenone by 5)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 03, 2023, 01:42:53 PM
Are the county men permitted to play tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:01:57 PM
Yes. Most clubs have full decks available.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:01:57 PM
Yes. Most clubs have full decks available.

Are you sure? I don't think our county men are available tonight!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:01:57 PM
Yes. Most clubs have full decks available.
You will as you have no county men, everyone else is down their best players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:46:22 PM
Stand corrected, county men not available.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2023, 03:02:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:46:22 PM
Stand corrected, county men not available.

Fringe players available?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 03, 2023, 03:34:56 PM
St Johns - Rossa- draw
LD - Ahoghill- LD by 3
TNN - St Endas- st endas by 2
Cargin - Aghagllon- cargin by 3
St Galls - Moneyglass- st galls by 5
Portglenone - Lavey- PG1 by 7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 03, 2023, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: geezer on May 03, 2023, 03:34:56 PM
St Johns - Rossa- draw
LD - Ahoghill- LD by 3
TNN - St Endas- st endas by 2
Cargin - Aghagllon- cargin by 3
St Galls - Moneyglass- st galls by 5
Portglenone - Lavey- PG1 by 7
;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on May 03, 2023, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2023, 03:02:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:46:22 PM
Stand corrected, county men not available.

Fringe players available?

no county men for aghagallon- down players are allowed back to the clubs for this week and maybe next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: YoungSaff on May 03, 2023, 10:01:14 PM
A good result for portglenone , St Bridgits seem to be shaping rightly compared to the start of the season , good prediction for the Rossa V St John's draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 03, 2023, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:01:57 PM
Yes. Most clubs have full decks available.
You will as you have no county men, everyone else is down their best players

What's happening at Cargin EOC? Hearing performances have been very poor.

Is there a more inconsistent team in Antrim that St.Endas over the past few years? Continue to blow hot and cold in the league and have delivered absolutely nothing in the Championship. They've been underdelivering big time based on the players they have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 03, 2023, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: ck on May 03, 2023, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:01:57 PM
Yes. Most clubs have full decks available.
You will as you have no county men, everyone else is down their best players

What's happening at Cargin EOC? Hearing performances have been very poor.

Is there a more inconsistent team in Antrim that St.Endas over the past few years? Continue to blow hot and cold in the league and have delivered absolutely nothing in the Championship. They've been underdelivering big time based on the players they have.

They've half a team playing and only starting training. They'll be a completely different team in 2 months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: YoungSaff on May 03, 2023, 10:21:18 PM
In fairness st endas didn't have their county men tonight , wheras last week when they beat cargin they did I'd say Eastwood and Healy make some difference to that team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 10:37:01 PM
Quote from: ck on May 03, 2023, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 03, 2023, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:01:57 PM
Yes. Most clubs have full decks available.
You will as you have no county men, everyone else is down their best players

What's happening at Cargin EOC? Hearing performances have been very poor.

Is there a more inconsistent team in Antrim that St.Endas over the past few years? Continue to blow hot and cold in the league and have delivered absolutely nothing in the Championship. They've been underdelivering big time based on the players they have.
We are missing a lot of players, 8 who started v glen last year plus Conhuir Johnston as well, but we should have seen the game out easily even with all that. Aghagallon missing their county men as well as E Walsh. It was a competitive game to be fair wouldn't begrudge them the victory. Just hope we can get everyone back in good time for the business end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 03, 2023, 10:41:38 PM
I think we will be meeting other later in the year very competitive game right to the end ,thought we should have went at least 6 up but the youngsters will learn and have to learn quickly how to close games out ,can't live off the shirt tails of greatness all your days ,time to step up is now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:42:02 PM
Big win for Aghagallon in Toome with their usual party pooping last minute goal!!

We had a bit too much for St Brigids who will be a genuine contender at full strength later in the season when it matters most. Moneyglass Lamhs and Randalstown will be happy with their nights work too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: YoungSaff on May 03, 2023, 10:46:08 PM
How many of the new transfers were playing for st bridgits tonight ? Are any more back after derry u20s loss?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on May 03, 2023, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:42:02 PM
Big win for Aghagallon in Toome with their usual party pooping last minute goal!!

We had a bit too much for St Brigids who will be a genuine contender at full strength later in the season when it matters most. Moneyglass Lamhs and Randalstown will be happy with their nights work too.

It has been a very unpredictable league so far hard to call games week in week out with so many sides missing so many players week by week. St endas are great example. LD started very poorly but have turned out some good results of late

Anyone want to call the top 6 teams now ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:53:19 PM
3 played full game YoungSaff.  Numbers 11, 13 and 14. Also had a midfielder who looked decent, think he might be called Meenagh. First time I think I've seen him.

Saul, I doubt if you'll get many takers for that. Everyone can beat everyone by the look of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on May 03, 2023, 11:08:42 PM
It's all about who can get a strong team out.

No stand out team at the minute, everyone beating everyone due to no county players etc

The race for top 6 is on because whoever ends up in bottom 7 it'll be a dog fight for survival.

At the minute no one is bad enough that you'll turn up and win without putting in a decent performance and no one is good enough to be feared.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 03, 2023, 11:18:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:53:19 PM
3 played full game YoungSaff.  Numbers 11, 13 and 14. Also had a midfielder who looked decent, think he might be called Meenagh. First time I think I've seen him.

Saul, I doubt if you'll get many takers for that. Everyone can beat everyone by the look of things.

Name them BS. There's that many of them it's hard to keep track. Did Matthew play? Has he definitely joined. Heard he was taking year off after Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 04, 2023, 12:09:38 AM
I had 4 sons playing WC - one marked 13, one marked 14. Will ask them in the morning what their names were, maybe there will be a Saffron Gael match report.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2023, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 04, 2023, 12:09:38 AM
I had 4 sons playing WC - one marked 13, one marked 14. Will ask them in the morning what their names were, maybe there will be a Saffron Gael match report.

What???!!! You didn't know them? And their famous da's? The SV lads will be on soon
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PatShivGOAT on May 04, 2023, 01:43:15 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 10:53:19 PM
3 played full game YoungSaff.  Numbers 11, 13 and 14. Also had a midfielder who looked decent, think he might be called Meenagh. First time I think I've seen him.

Saul, I doubt if you'll get many takers for that. Everyone can beat everyone by the look of things.

Aye, was speaking to the Mrs there. She was saying Meenagh would be a cousin of Sean Cavanagh on his mothers side. Some sort of forgiveness to Brolly for Cavanagh methodically dragging men down back in the day? Who knows? Meenagh does the sound and audio for Brolly's new podcast. I believe he won the Omagh Marathon in 2013 and a Tyrone senior football medal in 2016.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 04, 2023, 10:01:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2023, 02:46:22 PM
Stand corrected, county men not available.

Is it not strange that these lads can play hurling league on a sunday and cant play club FOOTBALL on the wednesday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 10:06:11 AM
PG1 must be contenders for league having a full squad therein...
Cargin by contrast had fielded without Mc Cann bros 9 or 10 of regulars......
Does league matter in the present structure...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 04, 2023, 10:49:07 AM
Quote from: YoungSaff on May 03, 2023, 10:21:18 PM
In fairness st endas didn't have their county men tonight , wheras last week when they beat cargin they did I'd say Eastwood and Healy make some difference to that team

They were 12 points down at half time so those players must be better than I thought!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 04, 2023, 11:08:14 AM
You really think so CB. A year ago you were saying we had no panel, no scoring forwards, no tradition etc etc. But hey ho, you just never know.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 04, 2023, 11:08:14 AM
You really think so CB. A year ago you were saying we had no panel, no scoring forwards, no tradition etc etc. But hey ho, you just never know.

Start proving me wrong when you bring home a senior title.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 04, 2023, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 11:55:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 04, 2023, 11:08:14 AM
You really think so CB. A year ago you were saying we had no panel, no scoring forwards, no tradition etc etc. But hey ho, you just never know.

Start proving me wrong when you bring home a senior title.....
Bannside with the premature bunting out again this year, may this time instead of late July, tut tut you will never learn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 04, 2023, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 10:06:11 AM
PG1 must be contenders for league having a full squad therein...
Cargin by contrast had fielded without Mc Cann bros 9 or 10 of regulars......
Does league matter in the present structure...?

Bit pointless but what's the alternative? We have to push on without the county players at some stage. Both teams playing with 5/6 regulars seems like a glorified friendly match though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 04, 2023, 02:55:53 PM
What part of "you never know" equates to "Bannside gets the bunting out" !

Spin Spin Spin....

Far too many banana skins around for ANY team to get comfortable. All anybody around here see us is as top 4. Only the players can deliver anything north of that, not punters on gaaboard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 04, 2023, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

Who gives a f**k
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 04, 2023, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

Don't mention it or MR2 will have a breakdown...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on May 04, 2023, 03:20:08 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 04, 2023, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

Who gives a f**k

Probably the 3 homegrown players whose places they've taken  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on May 04, 2023, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

The 3 that arent on the county (derry) panel. Odhran enda and i forget the other ones name.
Putting the result aside st brigids look good. portglenone were just more physical and looked more finesse. but brigids should be a good outfit with their county/counties men back. And then they'd to be with the amount of airtime they are getting in this thread!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 04, 2023, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on May 04, 2023, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

The 3 that arent on the county (derry) panel. Odhran enda and i forget the other ones name.
Putting the result aside st brigids look good. portglenone were just more physical and looked more finesse. but brigids should be a good outfit with their county/counties men back. And then they'd to be with the amount of airtime they are getting in this thread!

They'll be hard to stop come championship time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 04, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Full forward was Matthew I believe. Agree, St Brigids at full strength will be a handful for anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on May 04, 2023, 03:26:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 04, 2023, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on May 04, 2023, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

The 3 that arent on the county (derry) panel. Odhran enda and i forget the other ones name.
Putting the result aside st brigids look good. portglenone were just more physical and looked more finesse. but brigids should be a good outfit with their county/counties men back. And then they'd to be with the amount of airtime they are getting in this thread!

They'll be hard to stop come championship time

are they safe from relegation though? I think I seen they still have creggan and cargin to play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 04, 2023, 04:04:10 PM
how many get relegated from d1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 04, 2023, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 04, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Right less of the slabbering boys. Worse than aul women. Which of the Downeys were playing last night!

Who gives a f**k

All of South Derry :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 04, 2023, 04:14:05 PM
Wasn't Matthew BS he is on the Derry panel. Think it was Calum
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 04, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Did the Aldergrove game not take place last night, can't see a result up for it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 04, 2023, 04:14:05 PM
Wasn't Matthew BS he is on the Derry panel. Think it was Calum

Jeez take more than a few Downeys to win a senior championship ffs...
Those who believe toddle over to Paddy Power and grab the 10/1on offer....

Paddy pays little attention to this board.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 04, 2023, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 04, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Did the Aldergrove game not take place last night, can't see a result up for it?

Me neither on either social media site and nothing saying it was off. Would assume the result would be up by now if it had been played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:10:19 PM
Bit of chat around league restructure, div 1 10 teams, that would change a lot I think, a fair margin for error and also experiment at the current time in a 13 team league, bring it down to 10 would change a lot of managers outlooks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 04, 2023, 11:06:53 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:10:19 PM
Bit of chat around league restructure, div 1 10 teams, that would change a lot I think, a fair margin for error and also experiment at the current time in a 13 team league, bring it down to 10 would change a lot of managers outlooks

Div.1 and Div.2 should be 10 teams each. 13 far too many. Covid was the excuse for the uneven number and no relegation in 20 and 21.
Get back to 10 teams and see much more competitive divisions with every game a fight to stay up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 04, 2023, 11:56:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 04, 2023, 04:14:05 PM
Wasn't Matthew BS he is on the Derry panel. Think it was Calum

Jeez take more than a few Downeys to win a senior championship ffs...
Those who believe toddle over to Paddy Power and grab the 10/1on offer....

Paddy pays little attention to this board.....

Lavey remain favs for Antrim SFC with bookies. The Downeys have transformed St.Brigids already and only half of them have played so far.
Still can't quite believe Seamus and Henry let this happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on May 05, 2023, 07:30:39 AM
Quote from: ck on May 04, 2023, 11:06:53 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:10:19 PM
Bit of chat around league restructure, div 1 10 teams, that would change a lot I think, a fair margin for error and also experiment at the current time in a 13 team league, bring it down to 10 would change a lot of managers outlooks

Div.1 and Div.2 should be 10 teams each. 13 far too many. Covid was the excuse for the uneven number and no relegation in 20 and 21.
Get back to 10 teams and see much more competitive divisions with every game a fight to stay up.

I think with the way we are with so many dual clubs and so many games to fit in without county players the 12 team division is dead on. Teams pick up points before the split then when the split comes with full panels you give teams a better chance to stay up and aren't being hampered too much without county players.

If we go to 10 teams there's less room for error and the teams fighting to stay up will be far less likely to want to play without their county players and rightly so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 05, 2023, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 04, 2023, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on May 04, 2023, 04:14:05 PM
Wasn't Matthew BS he is on the Derry panel. Think it was Calum

Jeez take more than a few Downeys to win a senior championship ffs...
Those who believe toddle over to Paddy Power and grab the 10/1on offer....

Paddy pays little attention to this board.....

I wouldn't be so quick to underestimate them come Championship. I believe they have been performing well below their potential for a number of years. They have a few boys (example: the Finnegan twins) who seemed to raised their game too. Add a handful of quality players drafted in from Lavey to strengthen the line-up and they need to be taken seriously.

Having said that, it remains to be seen the impact drafting in a bunch of outsiders will have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 05, 2023, 10:41:24 AM
Agrove vs Sarsfields match abandoned with 15 minutes to play, serious injury to one of the Sarsfields lads.

Agrove were 1 up with the Paddies clawing it back from 8 down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 05, 2023, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.

I will believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2023, 12:09:09 PM
Yeah I would say even if they are very good then it's a bit early. It'll still be the same teams come championship time bar a big surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.

There is an argument that if you are a reserve player or not a first team player then you are not really going to improve the team, if you are a first team player then you should be fighting for your position anyways, competition for places is healthy, it will always bring a team on, and its a squad game now anyways, all 5 subs should be introduced to improve the team as it gets to the end of the match.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on May 05, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.

There is an argument that if you are a reserve player or not a first team player then you are not really going to improve the team, if you are a first team player then you should be fighting for your position anyways, competition for places is healthy, it will always bring a team on, and its a squad game now anyways, all 5 subs should be introduced to improve the team as it gets to the end of the match.

must be a kick in teeth for other lads who will inevitably get less or no game time. Drafting in so many players from an away club is wrong and should not be permissible and sets a bad precedent. That said I still don't tho they will win a championship they have come up short in the 1/4 and group stages the last few years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 05, 2023, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on May 05, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.

There is an argument that if you are a reserve player or not a first team player then you are not really going to improve the team, if you are a first team player then you should be fighting for your position anyways, competition for places is healthy, it will always bring a team on, and its a squad game now anyways, all 5 subs should be introduced to improve the team as it gets to the end of the match.

must be a kick in teeth for other lads who will inevitably get less or no game time. Drafting in so many players from an away club is wrong and should not be permissible and sets a bad precedent. That said I still don't tho they will win a championship they have come up short in the 1/4 and group stages the last few years

Other Belfast clubs have done it for years, why is it such a big deal now? :-X :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 05, 2023, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on May 05, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.

There is an argument that if you are a reserve player or not a first team player then you are not really going to improve the team, if you are a first team player then you should be fighting for your position anyways, competition for places is healthy, it will always bring a team on, and its a squad game now anyways, all 5 subs should be introduced to improve the team as it gets to the end of the match.

must be a kick in teeth for other lads who will inevitably get less or no game time. Drafting in so many players from an away club is wrong and should not be permissible and sets a bad precedent. That said I still don't tho they will win a championship they have come up short in the 1/4 and group stages the last few years

Other Belfast clubs have done it for years, why is it such a big deal now? :-X :-X

Ah, the purest of SW clubs wouldn't be at that lark ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 05, 2023, 02:43:52 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on May 05, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
Agree with that Caesar. There is an obvious upside in terms of additional quality, as the saying goes a rising tide lifts all boats.

The downside, a clatter of players who have gone through the club development system, dedicated club families over the years,  some will miss out on match selection...maybe even squad selection....and the fall out from that might not be pretty.

The Meenagh lad in midfield looks decent too, only a fool would suggest they won't be a serious threat come championship time.

There is an argument that if you are a reserve player or not a first team player then you are not really going to improve the team, if you are a first team player then you should be fighting for your position anyways, competition for places is healthy, it will always bring a team on, and its a squad game now anyways, all 5 subs should be introduced to improve the team as it gets to the end of the match.

must be a kick in teeth for other lads who will inevitably get less or no game time. Drafting in so many players from an away club is wrong and should not be permissible and sets a bad precedent. That said I still don't tho they will win a championship they have come up short in the 1/4 and group stages the last few years

Throw 5 county players into a team at that level and they will make some difference. Depends on all the usual factors of course (management, training, commitment etc).

St Brigid's are built on drafting players in though so not sure how big a deal it is when they get 5 transfers in. I honestly wouldn't want 5 blow ins into our club no matter how good they are, especially under a cloud of controversy that the Downey's have landed with. But they are still a new enough club and they take players into their ranks every year. Close to the student area and where young professionals settle down after Uni also contributes to this too. You hear every accent under the sun when you're down watching a match at Musgrave. They have built a serious club there in such a short space of time and they have the people about the club from every background that they're very well funded too! The envy of many of their neighbouring clubs! They're doing something right and it's only a matter of time before they start winning senior championships!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2023, 03:01:51 PM
It's not 5 county players though. It's 2 seniors and 3 underage which, while it sounds pedantic, is a big difference.

St Brigid's will eventually come good. I don't think it will be for a few years but there is just way too much coming through these boys aside.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2023, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2023, 03:01:51 PM
It's not 5 county players though. It's 2 seniors and 3 underage which, while it sounds pedantic, is a big difference.

St Brigid's will eventually come good. I don't think it will be for a few years but there is just way too much coming through these boys aside.

Exactly, and it's not as if they've pocketfulls of Derry SFC medals either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on May 05, 2023, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 05, 2023, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2023, 03:01:51 PM
It's not 5 county players though. It's 2 seniors and 3 underage which, while it sounds pedantic, is a big difference.

St Brigid's will eventually come good. I don't think it will be for a few years but there is just way too much coming through these boys aside.

Exactly, and it's not as if they've pocketfulls of Derry SFC medals either.

How's it got so toxic at Lavey for them all to leave? They weren't the best behaved club in the world in the 90s, has that carried on to the next generation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 05, 2023, 05:06:29 PM
No, don't think so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 05, 2023, 05:27:49 PM
I'd still have st brids behind portglenone in the pecking order for championship success. Time will tell on whether the transfer policy pays off for them over their internally developed players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 05, 2023, 06:03:10 PM
If nothing else the Antrim championships have turned out really interesting. There were years there there was literally no point in training for it....and St Galls stuck in second gear until about mid August.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 05, 2023, 06:34:59 PM
St Brigids won't win a championship, bit like the Man City of Antrim GAA. 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 05, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 06:03:10 PM
If nothing else the Antrim championships have turned out really interesting. There were years there there was literally no point in training for it....and St Galls stuck in second gear until about mid August.
Bit of a piss take there, Cargin certainly fought hard in those days of St galls dominance though more often fell short managed to break their run, which instead of being 5 and 8 in a row would of been 14 in a row!.
Some exciting games in recent years surely but the same team has won it Six of the last 8 seasons which is a period of dominance in any record book.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 05, 2023, 09:55:34 PM
Looking forward to this years championship myself, could be a clinker
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 05, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 06:03:10 PM
If nothing else the Antrim championships have turned out really interesting. There were years there there was literally no point in training for it....and St Galls stuck in second gear until about mid August.
Bit of a piss take there, Cargin certainly fought hard in those days of St galls dominance though more often fell short managed to break their run, which instead of being 5 and 8 in a row would of been 14 in a row!.
Some exciting games in recent years surely but the same team has won it Six of the last 8 seasons which is a period of dominance in any record book.

That type of dominance usually brings an Ulster success, the johnnies and ourselves of course reached Croke, Cargin should be there next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 05, 2023, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 05, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 05, 2023, 06:03:10 PM
If nothing else the Antrim championships have turned out really interesting. There were years there there was literally no point in training for it....and St Galls stuck in second gear until about mid August.
Bit of a piss take there, Cargin certainly fought hard in those days of St galls dominance though more often fell short managed to break their run, which instead of being 5 and 8 in a row would of been 14 in a row!.
Some exciting games in recent years surely but the same team has won it Six of the last 8 seasons which is a period of dominance in any record book.

That type of dominance usually brings an Ulster success, the johnnies and ourselves of course reached Croke, Cargin should be there next
Ye never know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 05, 2023, 10:54:25 PM
That St Galls team were a different level. Always represented Antrim well in Ulster and beyond.

Cargin are a great team but can never see them winning an Ulster medal. Maybe if St Galls werent around 10 years ago when mick, tomas, justy, kobo, ts, close etc were younger they might have had a shot.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 11:36:27 PM
Giving predictions from my perspective isn't the best thing, but in regards to seeing what Cargin have in their set up I've not seen as good a team in a while. Physically and mindset is top notch and maybe Ronan is the missing link.

People ask me why da feck do you referee? The truth is simple I get to see some cracking games from a totally different perspective than players, managers, supporters and a very small feeling of still being involved on the pitch..

Having the best players means nothing unless you have the other combination of management tactics discipline then it means nothing..

Looking forward to the year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 07, 2023, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on May 07, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Congratulations on GNM winning the feile yesterday in St Endas,a big scalp considering they won it with St Endas,St Brigid's,Moneyglass ,Casements all in it ,and any 1 off that 4 thinking they could've won it

Yep and they won the Div 2 Feile hurling a few weeks ago too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 07, 2023, 11:25:27 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on May 07, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Congratulations on GNM winning the feile yesterday in St Endas,a big scalp considering they won it with St Endas,St Brigid's,Moneyglass ,Casements all in it ,and any 1 off that 4 thinking they could've won it

St pauls too thinking they were in with a chance
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 07, 2023, 12:51:52 PM
Agree, congrats to the Gorts, good club, be great to see them hit a golden era in the near future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 07, 2023, 04:30:21 PM
Any word on a score from Ahoghill v Creggan, I see that was a 1pm game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2023, 04:56:27 PM
Great result for the ladies footballers beating Monaghan and qualifying for the intermediate ulster final.

I don't see any result on either twitter whist.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 07, 2023, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 07, 2023, 04:56:27 PM
Great result for the ladies footballers beating Monaghan and qualifying for the intermediate ulster final.

I don't see any result on either twitter whist.

Monaghan B?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2023, 05:43:49 PM
Don't think so but not an expert.... I think them and Tyrone are in intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on May 07, 2023, 06:50:05 PM
Antrim, Tyrone and Monaghan are in the Intermediate Championship. Antrim and Tyrone have both beat Monaghan so will meet in the final. They play a dead rubber next week too

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 06:53:07 PM
Big win for Cargin on the Musgrave sod...another league title back in vision.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 07, 2023, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 06:53:07 PM
Big win for Cargin on the Musgrave sod...another league title back in vision.....

Did you and MR2 kiss and make up ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 07:02:50 PM
Quote from: stiffler on May 07, 2023, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 06:53:07 PM
Big win for Cargin on the Musgrave sod...another league title back in vision.....

Did you and MR2 kiss and make up ?

Valentine's day......you miss that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 07, 2023, 07:12:56 PM
Quote from: stiffler on May 07, 2023, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 06:53:07 PM
Big win for Cargin on the Musgrave sod...another league title back in vision.....

Did you and MR2 kiss and make up ?

MR2 was spotted getting autographs from the downeys, once someone pointed them out to him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on May 07, 2023, 07:36:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 06:53:07 PM
Big win for Cargin on the Musgrave sod...another league title back in vision.....

Hope you got to stand and march wherever you wanted. Would hate to see that 'DUP esk' persecution syndrome appear again when you visit Musgrave.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2023, 07:58:46 PM
Seemed to be a good spread of support around the pitch from where I was standing  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 07, 2023, 09:21:51 PM
BS I ran my eye over St Brigids today following your prediction that they could be championship contenders the other day, no chance my friend, that's all I will say!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 07, 2023, 09:38:26 PM
Time will tell EOC, can't see how the availability of 6 senior county panellists won't greatly improve them. Rossa gave us their fill of it as usual. Second time in a few weeks we have come from three or four down to grab a point!

No one sitting the world on fire atm. Still early days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on May 07, 2023, 07:36:38 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 06:53:07 PM
Big win for Cargin on the Musgrave sod...another league title back in vision.....

Hope you got to stand and march wherever you wanted. Would hate to see that 'DUP esk' persecution syndrome appear again when you visit Musgrave.

Well order from on high said segregation required and 'no parking' on the grass....Culchies stay away.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 07, 2023, 09:45:29 PM
We were brutal today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 07, 2023, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2023, 09:38:26 PM
Time will tell EOC, can't see how the availability of 6 senior county panellists won't greatly improve them. Rossa gave us their fill of it as usual. Second time in a few weeks we have come from three or four down to grab a point!

No one sitting the world on fire atm. Still early days.
I don't care how many county panellists missing, none of them are that great tbh, so it's a firm no from me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 07, 2023, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 07, 2023, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2023, 09:38:26 PM
Time will tell EOC, can't see how the availability of 6 senior county panellists won't greatly improve them. Rossa gave us their fill of it as usual. Second time in a few weeks we have come from three or four down to grab a point!

No one sitting the world on fire atm. Still early days.
I don't care how many county panellists missing, none of them are that great tbh, so it's a firm no from me.

Methinks BS has relatives in and around the Biddies....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on May 07, 2023, 09:56:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 07, 2023, 09:38:26 PM
Time will tell EOC, can't see how the availability of 6 senior county panellists won't greatly improve them. Rossa gave us their fill of it as usual. Second time in a few weeks we have come from three or four down to grab a point!

No one sitting the world on fire atm. Still early days.
They're not 6 senior county panellists though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 07, 2023, 10:26:39 PM
The standard of the league this year is shite enough. Still don't think we will be able to judge teams for another couple months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 07, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
You know nor critical I am with refs, but MR2 thought you had a good game.
One question why didn't you see the tackle on Cargin number 11 a foul on the lead up to to brigids goal?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2023, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 07, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
You know nor critical I am with refs, but MR2 thought you had a good game.
One question why didn't you see the tackle on Cargin number 11 a foul on the lead up to to brigids goal?

My view was simple, two lads jumped for the ball, shoulder to shoulder one lad stayed down the other got up, players collide all the time in a game, in fact when we throw the ball in players jump for the ball and collide, that was how I saw it, two lads honestly going for the ball.

That's my view on it, it did not cause the goal btw, the goal happened when the keeper came out and missed the ball.

There were lots of shoulder or collision's in the game and I let them go also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PatShivGOAT on May 07, 2023, 11:42:41 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 07, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
You know nor critical I am with refs, but MR2 thought you had a good game.
One question why didn't you see the tackle on Cargin number 11 a foul on the lead up to to brigids goal?

Ah now not sure I agree with that...I thought EOC were lucky to get the win. If McKeown wasn't the ref it might've been 3 losses on the bounce for EOC. In saying that, St Brigids youngins had EOC oldies on toast. Lav n Justy thought they were in Twisters after a rowdy night out in Toome. Think its time for baby Shivers and co to step up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 08, 2023, 09:20:26 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 07, 2023, 09:45:29 PM
We were brutal today.

And yet have the points......we threw away yet another winning position by not being able to close a game out.

No scores for the last 20min+ of the second half is shocking.

Did the same against Moneyglass and almost threw a 12 point lead away to St Endas.

The mentality needs to change if we have any hope of staying up this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 08, 2023, 10:56:32 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 08, 2023, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 07, 2023, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on May 07, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Congratulations on GNM winning the feile yesterday in St Endas,a big scalp considering they won it with St Endas,St Brigid's,Moneyglass ,Casements all in it ,and any 1 off that 4 thinking they could've won it

Yep and they won the Div 2 Feile hurling a few weeks ago too

They only won the B Feile.
Cushendall we're A champions.

"Only". Yeah that's why I said they won the Div 2 Feile  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on May 08, 2023, 11:24:51 AM
The Gort na Mona camogs were amalgamated with Sarsfields last year and won the B Féile then too. The club must be doing something right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 08, 2023, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on May 08, 2023, 11:24:51 AM
The Gort na Mona camogs were amalgamated with Sarsfields last year and won the B Féile then too. The club must be doing something right.

I had actually heard they were struggling to field at some of their underage groups but they obviously have the numbers at U-15 in both codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 08, 2023, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: PatShivGOAT on May 07, 2023, 11:42:41 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 07, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
You know nor critical I am with refs, but MR2 thought you had a good game.
One question why didn't you see the tackle on Cargin number 11 a foul on the lead up to to brigids goal?

Ah now not sure I agree with that...I thought EOC were lucky to get the win. If McKeown wasn't the ref it might've been 3 losses on the bounce for EOC. In saying that, St Brigids youngins had EOC oldies on toast. Lav n Justy thought they were in Twisters after a rowdy night out in Toome. Think its time for baby Shivers and co to step up.

Jeez that observation gained from afar with not a hint of bias......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 09, 2023, 11:35:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2023, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 07, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
You know nor critical I am with refs, but MR2 thought you had a good game.
One question why didn't you see the tackle on Cargin number 11 a foul on the lead up to to brigids goal?

My view was simple, two lads jumped for the ball, shoulder to shoulder one lad stayed down the other got up, players collide all the time in a game, in fact when we throw the ball in players jump for the ball and collide, that was how I saw it, two lads honestly going for the ball.

That's my view on it, it did not cause the goal btw, the goal happened when the keeper came out and missed the ball.

There were lots of shoulder or collision's in the game and I let them go also.

Fair response, how I saw was Cargin number 11 went first won the ball and was hit mid air...

As I said tho you had a good game but just one query.

I give off enough about bad performances so thought i would give you, your dues  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 09, 2023, 01:32:18 PM
Why do a lot of the Belfast clubs not enter teams in the U19 competition?.  Think there are only 5 entered.  The likes of LD, St Johns, St Galls dont have a team entered, big senior clubs.  What is the reason for it for us who wouldnt be clued in?

QuoteA new competition and a new age grouping is set to commence with an under 19 football league to get up and running tonight 8th May.A total of 15 clubs have entered the competition and the leagues will consist of two divisions. A total of seven teams are placed in the first division with eight in number involved in the second

St Mary's Aghagallon

St Ergnat's Moneyglass

St Pauls

Erin's Own Cargin

All Saint's Ballymena

St Enda's 

Round One (Mon 8th May) All Games at 7.30 pm

St Brigid's v St Mary's Aghagallon

Division two will include;

St Mary's Rasharkin

Cuchullian's Dunloy

Tir na nOg Randalstown

Patrick Sarsfield's

St Joseph's Glenavy

O' Donovan Rossa

St James Aldergrove

Kickham's Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 01:38:58 PM
Wonder will many of these be played, or will it be like the u20 league fro a couple of sesons back
Only one game played last night but there were more scheduled
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 01:38:58 PM
Wonder will many of these be played, or will it be like the u20 league fro a couple of sesons back
Only one game played last night but there were more scheduled
Looks like only one game across 2 divisions played, this league is only heading one way and that is to become a farce. Teams entering it filling out the form at the start of the season, then not even having appointed a manager to take their team come the start of the league. And people wonder why the county as a whole is in the state it is in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 09, 2023, 01:46:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 01:38:58 PM
Wonder will many of these be played, or will it be like the u20 league fro a couple of sesons back
Only one game played last night but there were more scheduled

The underage is a joke in Antrim.  Our minor team has played 3 matches since the league started in March. One game was called off because of bad weather which is fair enough but Jesus the games need to be more regular. Down's league runs like clockwork every Monday night. Armagh too. The old hurling excuse is always pulled out too but that's a crap excuse too. Boys can play hurling one week and football the next,easily.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?

I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?

I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.
Thought something was up, would that stop the result going up though?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 09, 2023, 02:35:08 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 09, 2023, 01:32:18 PM
Why do a lot of the Belfast clubs not enter teams in the U19 competition?.  Think there are only 5 entered.  The likes of LD, St Johns, St Galls dont have a team entered, big senior clubs.  What is the reason for it for us who wouldnt be clued in?

QuoteA new competition and a new age grouping is set to commence with an under 19 football league to get up and running tonight 8th May.A total of 15 clubs have entered the competition and the leagues will consist of two divisions. A total of seven teams are placed in the first division with eight in number involved in the second

St Mary's Aghagallon

St Ergnat's Moneyglass

St Pauls

Erin's Own Cargin

All Saint's Ballymena

St Enda's 

Round One (Mon 8th May) All Games at 7.30 pm

St Brigid's v St Mary's Aghagallon

Division two will include;

St Mary's Rasharkin

Cuchullian's Dunloy

Tir na nOg Randalstown

Patrick Sarsfield's

St Joseph's Glenavy

O' Donovan Rossa

St James Aldergrove

Kickham's Creggan

Creggan, Aldergrove and Rossa have all pulled out of that list above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on May 09, 2023, 02:39:53 PM
Sooner we get back to Under12,14,16 and 18 the better and move minor games to away from Sundays as well.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 09, 2023, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Dreen on May 09, 2023, 02:39:53 PM
Sooner we get back to Under12,14,16 and 18 the better and move minor games to away from Sundays as well.

Hear Hear!

It would be good for the fixture organisers to consider that U15s have GCSEs as well.

This year they have matches during the exam timetable but all others their age, U17 boys, U16 girls have a break.

Probably a lack of forethought based on U14s not having exams and them using U15s as the comparable age group.

If we moved back to even ages, then U16 and U18 covers all those with serious exams so easier to plan a break.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 09, 2023, 03:02:29 PM
You'd wonder who makes these decisions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?

I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.
Thought something was up, would that stop the result going up though?

Ahogill v Kickham's ended in controversy Ahoghill led by a point a minute into time added.
Creggan lad was sanctioned by ref (Mc Dermott), refused to give name and the official terminated the game early.

CCC will adjudicate.......points awarded......and...???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 09, 2023, 05:07:10 PM
Is that really enough to terminate a game? :(

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?

I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.
Thought something was up, would that stop the result going up though?

Ahogill v Kickham's ended in controversy Ahoghill led by a point a minute into time added.
Creggan lad was sanctioned by ref (Mc Dermott), refused to give name and the official terminated the game early.

CCC will adjudicate.......points awarded......and...???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 09, 2023, 05:07:10 PM
Is that really enough to terminate a game? :(

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?

I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.
Thought something was up, would that stop the result going up though?

Ahogill v Kickham's ended in controversy Ahoghill led by a point a minute into time added.
Creggan lad was sanctioned by ref (Mc Dermott), refused to give name and the official terminated the game early.

CCC will adjudicate.......points awarded......and...???

Got to ask ref and the CCC/CHC.............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 09, 2023, 05:07:10 PM
Is that really enough to terminate a game? :(

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?


I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.
Thought something was up, would that stop the result going up though?

Ahogill v Kickham's ended in controversy Ahoghill led by a point a minute into time added.
Creggan lad was sanctioned by ref (Mc Dermott), refused to give name and the official terminated the game early.

CCC will adjudicate.......points awarded......and...???
Surely someone at it could give us the right way of this, save any speculation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 09, 2023, 05:07:10 PM
Is that really enough to terminate a game? :(

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 09, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Anyone know the score in Ahoghill / Creggan game or if it took place, dont see the score on the Antrim website?


I believe Ahoghill won by a point, although I think it ended controversially, Creggan man got a mark and ref blew the final whistle, or something along those lines.
Thought something was up, would that stop the result going up though?

Ahogill v Kickham's ended in controversy Ahoghill led by a point a minute into time added.
Creggan lad was sanctioned by ref (Mc Dermott), refused to give name and the official terminated the game early.

CCC will adjudicate.......points awarded......and...???
Surely someone at it could give us the right way of this, save any speculation

Have heard similar comment from both sides......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2023, 07:05:16 PM
3 minute warning I'm assuming here, if someone refuses to adhere then the ref can blow game up early. Thought that rule was well known enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2023, 07:05:16 PM
3 minute warning I'm assuming here, if someone refuses to adhere then the ref can blow game up early. Thought that rule was well known enough

Hearing from a Clooney source a 'team mentor' had been dismissed from the playing area and decided to return was the prime reason for termination.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2023, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 09, 2023, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2023, 07:05:16 PM
3 minute warning I'm assuming here, if someone refuses to adhere then the ref can blow game up early. Thought that rule was well known enough

Hearing from a Clooney source a 'team mentor' had been dismissed from the playing area and decided to return was the prime reason for termination.....

Close
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2023, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2023, 07:05:16 PM
3 minute warning I'm assuming here, if someone refuses to adhere then the ref can blow game up early. Thought that rule was well known enough

MR, are you seeing the various disciplinary bodies clamping down a lot more this year on these types of things?

I get the distinct feeling there's a lot less tolerance of abusing officials, indiscipline and rightly so IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2023, 10:23:39 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2023, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2023, 07:05:16 PM
3 minute warning I'm assuming here, if someone refuses to adhere then the ref can blow game up early. Thought that rule was well known enough

MR, are you seeing the various disciplinary bodies clamping down a lot more this year on these types of things?

I get the distinct feeling there's a lot less tolerance of abusing officials, indiscipline and rightly so IMO.

TBF not enough of the ref's are doing it, team officials that are abusive should be asked to leave play, venturing on to the pitch to give you 'their opinion' should be enough to ask him to leave the pitch.

I did a game the other night, first 2 minutes (if even) a player was chirping in my ear I stopped play and gave him a yellow card, in fairness he never opened his mouth the rest of the game.

I've zero tolerance to that shite, I get it, I'm a player manager and supporter, but its getting out of order now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 10, 2023, 11:04:40 AM
I watched an underage ladies game last week - the abuse that the ref took from one of the mentors was absolutely disgraceful. The ref asked him twice to keep quiet and let him ref the game. Finally the ref snapped and put him outside the wire - the abuse continued until the mentor in question own daughter told him to keep quiet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: keep her low this half on May 10, 2023, 12:33:19 PM
I was at an underage camogie match last week with a very young referee, about 19. One of the mentors was at him from the first minute claiming for everything. The ref did OK but didn't have the nerve to tell the mentor to shut up. Felt a bit sorry for the young fella as he was getting a bit flustered from time to time, still did a reasonable job as a ref but shouldn't have to put up with that shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2023, 03:38:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 10, 2023, 11:04:40 AM
I watched an underage ladies game last week - the abuse that the ref took from one of the mentors was absolutely disgraceful. The ref asked him twice to keep quiet and let him ref the game. Finally the ref snapped and put him outside the wire - the abuse continued until the mentor in question own daughter told him to keep quiet.

Amazing how often it is actually the children of these eejits that have to tell them to wise up.

All the kids want to do is to play their games with their mates have some fun and try to win. It is the pressure from the adults that makes winning more important in their eyes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 10, 2023, 08:03:42 PM
St Mary's CBGS year 8s who won the inaugural Antrim Cup took part in an Ulster blitz competition today, and have qualified for the semi finals after victories against Omagh CBS. St Ciarans Ballygawley and St Ronans Lurgan. Hopefully this will give St Mary's the impetus to develop this group and not fall behind in the coming years.  Small green shoots perhaps....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 11, 2023, 03:20:53 PM
Getting close now to Sundays game against Leitrim. Hopefully we can get a good run going now we are playing firmly in our own grade.

GAA going all out to make this a prestigious competition, and are stepping up their marketing, prizefunds, prime time viewing at HQ etc. I dont think anyone expects us to get to closing stages of Ulster or All Ireland senior, but this is much more like intermediate grade and we would want to be competitive 

We have a right old injury list, Ryan Murray, Kevin Small, Jamie G,  Paddy Mc Aleer still out, but some decent young talent in the squad now so there should be adequate options.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2023, 03:23:47 PM
It's a big one BS. Leitrim got hammered in the press etc for NY winning and will be very sore about it. They are not a bad outfit and were close to getting out of division 4. They beat us last year and we owe them one but this is a game that could go either way - hopefully we come out the right side of it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 12, 2023, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 11, 2023, 03:20:53 PM
Getting close now to Sundays game against Leitrim. Hopefully we can get a good run going now we are playing firmly in our own grade.

GAA going all out to make this a prestigious competition, and are stepping up their marketing, prizefunds, prime time viewing at HQ etc. I dont think anyone expects us to get to closing stages of Ulster or All Ireland senior, but this is much more like intermediate grade and we would want to be competitive 

We have a right old injury list, Ryan Murray, Kevin Small, Jamie G,  Paddy Mc Aleer still out, but some decent young talent in the squad now so there should be adequate options.

Have many of the young U20's made an impact in recent weeks BS? Are we likely to see similar team to Armagh or will there be changes? I think some of those playing against Armagh are not county standard so would be good if some of the younger lads could step up.
Heard Antrim played Dublin last week in Newry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2023, 11:52:46 AM
Some games on tonight, is the game at Cargin going to be a full match or half a game ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
We all know what to do now, if getting beat by a point start slabbering at the ref, refuse to leave the pitch when asked and get the game abandoned. Then have another pop at it in a few weeks :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 12, 2023, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
We all know what to do now, if getting beat by a point start slabbering at the ref, refuse to leave the pitch when asked and get the game abandoned. Then have another pop at it in a few weeks :D

Doesn't surprise it happened during a match McDermott was in charge of...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2023, 02:14:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
We all know what to do now, if getting beat by a point start slabbering at the ref, refuse to leave the pitch when asked and get the game abandoned. Then have another pop at it in a few weeks :D

Or have a player injured!!

But if the county go hard at the cause of this, and hand out meaningful suspensions then it won't something you are looking to do ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 12, 2023, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
We all know what to do now, if getting beat by a point start slabbering at the ref, refuse to leave the pitch when asked and get the game abandoned. Then have another pop at it in a few weeks :D

Surely the result should still stand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2023, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 12, 2023, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
We all know what to do now, if getting beat by a point start slabbering at the ref, refuse to leave the pitch when asked and get the game abandoned. Then have another pop at it in a few weeks :D

Surely the result should still stand?

Only a result if the game finishes, that'll be down to I'm sure the busy CCC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 12, 2023, 03:15:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2023, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 12, 2023, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
We all know what to do now, if getting beat by a point start slabbering at the ref, refuse to leave the pitch when asked and get the game abandoned. Then have another pop at it in a few weeks :D

Surely the result should still stand?

Only a result if the game finishes, that'll be down to I'm sure the busy CCC.

What i heard was there was only a minute or two left.

Surely it is at the discretion of the ref whether to call the result, especially as it was the team who were behind caused the infringements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 12, 2023, 03:52:59 PM
Has the Clooney Vs Creggan result not stood?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 12, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: Caesar on May 12, 2023, 03:52:59 PM
Has the Clooney Vs Creggan result not stood?

Ahoghill awarded the points......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 12, 2023, 04:33:11 PM
Yes team selection will be interesting CK. The under 20s who were invited in will have been seen in action against the rest of the squad and its only then you can judge them. Probable v possibles, backs v forwards, any game time they got in recent challenge games...that kind of thing.

The team that Andy will name will most likely raise an eyebrow or two, given the long injury list, and for sure there will be one or two that any given poster dosent think is good enough, but why don't we judge things after the Leitrim game and not before it. To be fair, all things considered, we would really want to be winning this one.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 11:17:33 PM
We'd a good win tonight against a young St Galls team. They are lacking some big physical men around the middle but a decent team otherwise. Burns at 11 very good, should be lining out on Sunday for Antrim instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2023, 11:39:02 PM
We are still very much a work in progress. Tonight's game we had to work far harder for scores, Cargin are a well oiled machine and getting stronger
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 13, 2023, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 12, 2023, 11:17:33 PM
We'd a good win tonight against a young St Galls team. They are lacking some big physical men around the middle but a decent team otherwise. Burns at 11 very good, should be lining out on Sunday for Antrim instead.

Jeez is another league title on the agenda now EOC.....surely not..?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2023, 02:51:15 PM
Minors not good today  :( Though Derry very strong and I suspect favourites to win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2023, 02:56:46 PM
Aye, very strong Derry team ITG, will take good team to beat them. This wasn't our strongest year group, a lot of them expected to be feature next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2023, 03:01:02 PM
Seems a big gap in a lot of the minor games this year with Down, Fermanagh and ourselves shipping a few beatings. Hopefully all quite young like you say.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 13, 2023, 03:28:36 PM
Or we could take a reality check and realise we need a second tier competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 13, 2023, 03:30:36 PM
It's u17 for minor this year isn't it? So does it go back to u18 next year, meaning this will be the same teams again next year??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
Keep the faith. Expect to see natural improvement in next few years, maybe no titles, but no cricket scores either.  Gérard Mc Nulty and a few others got a good rhythm going with 15's and 14's and showing well against peers in Ulster. But it's what happens next few years that lies the challenge.

Got the facilities, lights, gym, financial backing where required, for first time ever it's in OUR hands.

Paddy Kelly calling a meeting in Dunsilly on Monday night (7.30) for those interested in pushing on to next level. Everyone with a positive contribution is welcome, not just pointing out where the faultlines are, but solutions and action plans where hard work lies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2023, 03:35:40 PM
Good question JS. But if any of the heroes on here want to present themselves on Monday with something worthwhile to say I'm sure they won't be turned away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2023, 03:37:32 PM
That comment looks harsh, most on here mean really well. Just a few dissidents that will always find a way of seeing glass half empty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on May 13, 2023, 05:01:29 PM
Difficult for players/coaches/fans to retain hope when you score 3 points in 120minutes of football, regardless how strong the opposition are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 13, 2023, 05:04:37 PM
In fairness it's a serious Derry side men. Them and Tyrone look to be a good bit ahead of the rest. With Donegal and maybe Monaghan challenging.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 13, 2023, 08:52:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 13, 2023, 03:30:36 PM
It's u17 for minor this year isn't it? So does it go back to u18 next year, meaning this will be the same teams again next year??

Is it still U20 at county level next in 2024 or is it U19?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 13, 2023, 09:04:59 PM
What's the alternate Fr Maginn. There's no easy fix except a lot of very hard work ...frustrating as that may seem. We've all been there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 13, 2023, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2023, 08:52:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 13, 2023, 03:30:36 PM
It's u17 for minor this year isn't it? So does it go back to u18 next year, meaning this will be the same teams again next year??

Is it still U20 at county level next in 2024 or is it U19?

If things are going back to normal, i.e even numbers from u12 to u18, then i assume its U21 again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on May 14, 2023, 01:42:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 13, 2023, 09:04:59 PM
What's the alternate Fr Maginn. There's no easy fix except a lot of very hard work ...frustrating as that may seem. We've all been there!
The issue imo is quality of coaching within clubs at underage.

I might sound harsh, but too many underage coaches don't know what they're doing or teaching even if their heart is in the right place and I get they're doing their best because others who are better suited don't want to get involved.

By secondary school I think its too late as it's more about refinement and even then the quality of coaching is questionable in alot of schools.

We've never been that far away, ever, even when these counties were winning all irelands consistently.  I don't care how strong Tyrone and Derry are, it's a joke to only score 3 points in 2 games.  Those scorelines were only that bad because of attitude and giving up, not quality
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 09:58:04 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 13, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
Keep the faith. Expect to see natural improvement in next few years, maybe no titles, but no cricket scores either.  Gérard Mc Nulty and a few others got a good rhythm going with 15's and 14's and showing well against peers in Ulster. But it's what happens next few years that lies the challenge.

Got the facilities, lights, gym, financial backing where required, for first time ever it's in OUR hands.

Paddy Kelly calling a meeting in Dunsilly on Monday night (7.30) for those interested in pushing on to next level. Everyone with a positive contribution is welcome, not just pointing out where the faultlines are, but solutions and action plans where hard work lies.
GMcN will have a good view of everything from the stand for the next 6 months, probably can see more up there anyway to be fair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 14, 2023, 10:57:35 AM
Alot of new faces in the panel. Deserved call up for Oisin Doherty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 14, 2023, 11:03:40 AM
Down with drew from the 1/4 of UMFC, conceded game, never seen that happen before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 14, 2023, 11:19:49 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 14, 2023, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 14, 2023, 11:03:40 AM
Down with drew from the 1/4 of UMFC, conceded game, never seen that happen before.
??
Pretty sure one team got eliminated after the round robin games and it was them.

You are probably right, couldn't believe they would do that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2023, 02:54:08 PM
Good win. Leitrim beat us well last year. Interesting draw for Fermanagh.

One team gets eliminated in the minors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2023, 04:34:00 PM
Really decent result today AL had a brilliant game by all accounts by the radio commentators
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2023, 04:38:05 PM
Superb performances all over the pitch today, we looked great at times, the recent challenges against Dublin Donegal and Tyrone (where we were competitive) standing us in great stead. Harder tests await, but its good to get that banana skin out if the way, especially after last years debacle.

Adam Loughran MOM with memorable individual display, Jordan, Finnegan twins Dermot McAlesse  Peter Healy all superb too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 14, 2023, 07:54:43 PM
Great result, after a disaster down in Leitrim last year. Should be in a position to give the Tailteann Cup a real rattle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
This time last year the dressing room was a proper shambles, tail trying to wag the dog  and all that. Tough choices needed to be made, and not all agreed. But today that was fully vindicated, maybe we won't win the Tailteean Cup (maybe we will) but today we saw a team in Saffron that looked fit, organised and most of all, united.

One swallow dosent make a summer, with things still in transitional mode and the average age of the panel vastly reduced from this time 12 months ago we need to get behind Andy as he works to build a squad from bottom up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
This time last year the dressing room was a proper shambles, tail trying to wag the dog  and all that. Tough choices needed to be made, and not all agreed. But today that was fully vindicated, maybe we won't win the Tailteean Cup (maybe we will) but today we saw a team in Saffron that looked fit, organised and most of all, united.

One swallow dosent make a summer, with things still in transitional mode and the average age of the panel vastly reduced from this time 12 months ago we need to get behind Andy as he works to build a squad from bottom up.
Why the constant digs at the previous manager. A good win today surely just don't know why you're looking backwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 14, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....

A win against Leitrim is worthy of celebration......BS...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 14, 2023, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....

A win against Leitrim is worthy of celebration......BS...?

We were also competitive apparently in challenge games with Dublin & Tyrone  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2023, 09:56:27 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....

A win against Leitrim is worthy of celebration......BS...?

No, been better we had have lost! Christ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
A good win, we have rightly took it seriously this year as this is Antrims level.Disappointed we had no representation on the starting team to be honest. I'd say the men we have there maybe won't be there much longer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 14, 2023, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....

A win against Leitrim is worthy of celebration......BS...?
Ach wise up.  Of course it's worthy of praise and celebration. I knew somebody would say it's only Leitrim. Can't win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 14, 2023, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
A good win, we have rightly took it seriously this year as this is Antrims level.Disappointed we had no representation on the starting team to be honest. I'd say the men we have there maybe won't be there much longer.
[/quot
Who would you have started and where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:48:56 PM
Pat shivers corner forward, and although Sean O Neil injured and unavailable obviously isn't rated at all by McEntee or McCrudden.
Just seen the highlights great to see Adam Loughran showing what a great player he is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 14, 2023, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:48:56 PM
Pat shivers corner forward, and although Sean O Neil injured and unavailable obviously isn't rated at all by McEntee or McCrudden.
Just seen the highlights great to see Adam Loughran showing what a great player he is.

Would you not say Pat has had a fair bit of game time to date

A minimum of at least 2 more likely at least 3 further games in TC he will get opportunity

Sean very talented and maybe a bit like Adam who you mentioned above might just take a little patience and he will get opportunity to show his ralent

2 early to be throwing in the towel.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 15, 2023, 12:46:19 AM
EOC, IMO Shivers is the best shooter in the county, but hes quite lethargic, probably the reason he doenst start.

Wasnt at the game but by all acocunts, Loughran was the star of the show. Could have been a different league campaign if he was fit. Class act.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2023, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 14, 2023, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....

A win against Leitrim is worthy of celebration......BS...?
Ach wise up.  Of course it's worthy of praise and celebration. I knew somebody would say it's only Leitrim. Can't win.
Yep, cannot Rene.bee how many times Cargin claimed League titles, O Cahan cups as well as a couple if junior and Intermediate titles.......hands up all within who can recall.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 15, 2023, 08:42:49 AM
Someone take the Whiskey of grandpa and put him to bed he must have been at it all night

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 15, 2023, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 14, 2023, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 14, 2023, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....

A win against Leitrim is worthy of celebration......BS...?
Ach wise up.  Of course it's worthy of praise and celebration. I knew somebody would say it's only Leitrim. Can't win.
Yep, cannot Rene.bee how many times Cargin claimed League titles, O Cahan cups as well as a couple if junior and Intermediate titles.......hands up all within who can recall.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2023, 09:53:18 AM
Meath, Down, Cavan etc, very proud footballing counties, all multiple all Ireland senior winners going full pelt to win the Tailltean Cup,  yet some persist with a ludicrous view that Antrim shouldn't be taking this competition seriously at all, as if for some reason we are above it.

Thankfully it's a minority view and the rest can see past this infantile drivel.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2023, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 15, 2023, 09:53:18 AM
Meath, Down, Cavan etc, very proud footballing counties, all multiple all Ireland senior winners going full pelt to win the Tailltean Cup,  yet some persist with a ludicrous view that Antrim shouldn't be taking this competition seriously at all, as if for some reason we are above it.

Thankfully it's a minority view and the rest can see past this infantile drivel.

Jeez PG1 are not that bothered.....answered the County call with one representative...........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on May 15, 2023, 10:24:30 AM
Two but as usual your observations are wide of the mark
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on May 15, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: Flanker on May 14, 2023, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
A good win, we have rightly took it seriously this year as this is Antrims level.Disappointed we had no representation on the starting team to be honest. I'd say the men we have there maybe won't be there much longer.
[/quot
Who would you have started and where?

Really.... Your surprised by someone asking how no player from the best club side in Antrim for the last 10 years started
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2023, 03:45:10 PM
A load of them are unavailable. There were a lot in the u20s starting IIRC . The team will be loaded with Cargin players soon enough with what they have coming through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Liam Stewart passed away yesterday evening, a person with great vision who along with others brought about some golden era's within the club, chairman during the Ulster club winning team of the 80's through to bringing about the golden generation that went on to win the All Ireland.

As chairman of the club during the troubles we always had a safe place to be, running many summer clubs and trips up the north coast, I'm sure as kids we tested his patience to the full  ;D

Was a recipient of the Presidents award I believe

Father of Karl Stewart who played with distinction for both club and county.

On a personal note he was Mr St Galls and will be missed by many from within and outside of the club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 15, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Liam Stewart passed away yesterday evening, a person with great vision who along with others brought about some golden era's within the club, chairman during the Ulster club winning team of the 80's through to bringing about the golden generation that went on to win the All Ireland.

As chairman of the club during the troubles we always had a safe place to be, running many summer clubs and trips up the north coast, I'm sure as kids we tested his patience to the full  ;D

Was a recipient of the Presidents award I believe

Father of Karl Stewart who played with distinction for both club and county.

On a personal note he was Mr St Galls and will be missed by many from within and outside of the club

An absolute Gent

Did I hear he played in and won an Ulster Minor Football and Hurling title with Antrim in the same year

RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 15, 2023, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on May 15, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: Flanker on May 14, 2023, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
A good win, we have rightly took it seriously this year as this is Antrims level.Disappointed we had no representation on the starting team to be honest. I'd say the men we have there maybe won't be there much longer.
[/quot
Who would you have started and where?

Really.... Your surprised by someone asking how no player from the best club side in Antrim for the last 10 years started

No dispute on Cargin being the top side for the last 10 years

Feel free to answer the question. Answer should include only those that have currently made themselves available and are fit for selection.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 15, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Liam Stewart passed away yesterday evening, a person with great vision who along with others brought about some golden era's within the club, chairman during the Ulster club winning team of the 80's through to bringing about the golden generation that went on to win the All Ireland.

As chairman of the club during the troubles we always had a safe place to be, running many summer clubs and trips up the north coast, I'm sure as kids we tested his patience to the full  ;D

Was a recipient of the Presidents award I believe

Father of Karl Stewart who played with distinction for both club and county.

On a personal note he was Mr St Galls and will be missed by many from within and outside of the club

An absolute Gent

Did I hear he played in and won an Ulster Minor Football and Hurling title with Antrim in the same year

RIP

Possibly, played in many a team for Antrim in hurling and football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2023, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 15, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Liam Stewart passed away yesterday evening, a person with great vision who along with others brought about some golden era's within the club, chairman during the Ulster club winning team of the 80's through to bringing about the golden generation that went on to win the All Ireland.

As chairman of the club during the troubles we always had a safe place to be, running many summer clubs and trips up the north coast, I'm sure as kids we tested his patience to the full  ;D

Was a recipient of the Presidents award I believe

Father of Karl Stewart who played with distinction for both club and county.

On a personal note he was Mr St Galls and will be missed by many from within and outside of the club

An absolute Gent

Did I hear he played in and won an Ulster Minor Football and Hurling title with Antrim in the same year

RIP

Liam was a good friend for many years, and manys a disagreement did not hinder such.

May his good soul Rest in Peace.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 15, 2023, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 15, 2023, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 03:58:58 PM


Liam Stewart passed away yesterday evening, a person with great vision who along with others brought about some golden era's within the club, chairman during the Ulster club winning team of the 80's through to bringing about the golden generation that went on to win the All Ireland.

As chairman of the club during the troubles we always had a safe place to be, running many summer clubs and trips up the north coast, I'm sure as kids we tested his patience to the full  ;D

Was a recipient of the Presidents award I believe

Father of Karl Stewart who played with distinction for both club and county.

On a personal note he was Mr St Galls and will be missed by many from within and outside of the club

An absolute Gent

Did I hear he played in and won an Ulster Minor Football and Hurling title with Antrim in the same year

RIP

Indeed......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 15, 2023, 05:38:19 PM
A true gentleman and gael, rest in peace Liam. Would I be right in saying he was from Derry City originally?

Mr St Galls as good a description as any.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2023, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2023, 03:58:58 PM
Liam Stewart passed away yesterday evening, a person with great vision who along with others brought about some golden era's within the club, chairman during the Ulster club winning team of the 80's through to bringing about the golden generation that went on to win the All Ireland.

As chairman of the club during the troubles we always had a safe place to be, running many summer clubs and trips up the north coast, I'm sure as kids we tested his patience to the full  ;D

Was a recipient of the Presidents award I believe

Father of Karl Stewart who played with distinction for both club and county.

On a personal note he was Mr St Galls and will be missed by many from within and outside of the club

An absolute Gent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on May 16, 2023, 10:48:23 AM
How many games are played in the Antrim senior league?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2023, 10:55:33 AM
Quote from: toby47 on May 16, 2023, 10:48:23 AM
How many games are played in the Antrim senior league?

In division 1 there are 12 games before the split, then another 5 or 6, depending on whether your in top or bottom half
Maybe someone else can clarify if its top 6 bottom 7 or vice versa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 16, 2023, 07:26:54 PM
Yes top 6 I believe. Bottom 7 of which 2 go down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Moneyglass away game to Creggan switched to Moneyglass
Any idea why ? Not like their pitch to be unplayable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 16, 2023, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Moneyglass away game to Creggan switched to Moneyglass
Any idea why ? Not like their pitch to be unplayable

Penalised for events at Clooney.......last home game v Aghagallon will be away as well...suspensions included..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2023, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 16, 2023, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 16, 2023, 08:00:35 PM
Moneyglass away game to Creggan switched to Moneyglass
Any idea why ? Not like their pitch to be unplayable

Penalised for events at Clooney.......last home game v Aghagallon will be away as well...suspensions included..

Good to hear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
Lads, myself and a few like-minded saffron folk had a discussion, we got onto the topic of the 'look good, feel good, play good.' theory.

Opinions on the saffron outfit changing the shorts to mainly saffron with white stripes, instead of white shorts with saffron stripes? Was told there was tension in camp due to this years gear, things said such as 'the training tops are drowning us' or 'how can u call these skinny bottoms?' and its understood players aren't happy with how they look on the pitch in compared to your Derrys or Tyrones.

Is this an issue that needs dealt with? or typical modern day footballer bulls***
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 16, 2023, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
Lads, myself and a few like-minded saffron folk had a discussion, we got onto the topic of the 'look good, feel good, play good.' theory.

Opinions on the saffron outfit changing the shorts to mainly saffron with white stripes, instead of white shorts with saffron stripes? Was told there was tension in camp due to this years gear, things said such as 'the training tops are drowning us' or 'how can u call these skinny bottoms?' and its understood players aren't happy with how they look on the pitch in compared to your Derrys or Tyrones.

Is this an issue that needs dealt with? or typical modern day footballer bulls***

Is it not O'Neills gear so I presume it'd be all standard fitting?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:51:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2023, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
Lads, myself and a few like-minded saffron folk had a discussion, we got onto the topic of the 'look good, feel good, play good.' theory.

Opinions on the saffron outfit changing the shorts to mainly saffron with white stripes, instead of white shorts with saffron stripes? Was told there was tension in camp due to this years gear, things said such as 'the training tops are drowning us' or 'how can u call these skinny bottoms?' and its understood players aren't happy with how they look on the pitch in compared to your Derrys or Tyrones.

Is this an issue that needs dealt with? or typical modern day footballer bulls***

Is it not O'Neills gear so I presume it'd be all standard fitting?

Yes marty, oneills gear.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 16, 2023, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
Lads, myself and a few like-minded saffron folk had a discussion, we got onto the topic of the 'look good, feel good, play good.' theory.

Opinions on the saffron outfit changing the shorts to mainly saffron with white stripes, instead of white shorts with saffron stripes? Was told there was tension in camp due to this years gear, things said such as 'the training tops are drowning us' or 'how can u call these skinny bottoms?' and its understood players aren't happy with how they look on the pitch in compared to your Derrys or Tyrones.

Is this an issue that needs dealt with? or typical modern day footballer bulls***


Yep definitely a major issue, but pales in comparison to the fact that the grass in not as green in Corrigan as it is in Healy Park or Owenbeg!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 11:02:38 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 16, 2023, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
Lads, myself and a few like-minded saffron folk had a discussion, we got onto the topic of the 'look good, feel good, play good.' theory.

Opinions on the saffron outfit changing the shorts to mainly saffron with white stripes, instead of white shorts with saffron stripes? Was told there was tension in camp due to this years gear, things said such as 'the training tops are drowning us' or 'how can u call these skinny bottoms?' and its understood players aren't happy with how they look on the pitch in compared to your Derrys or Tyrones.

Is this an issue that needs dealt with? or typical modern day footballer bulls***


Yep definitely a major issue, but pales in comparison to the fact that the grass in not as green in Corrigan as it is in Healy Park or Owenbeg!!

Nail on the head 82! Why don't we change the crest too for the boys! Joke.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 17, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Bull manure as usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2023, 08:49:03 AM
Insta/FB/Tiktok/snapchat twats
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 17, 2023, 09:25:52 AM
I can only assume this is a wind up

Quote from: Southwestsaffs on May 16, 2023, 10:32:59 PM
Lads, myself and a few like-minded saffron folk had a discussion, we got onto the topic of the 'look good, feel good, play good.' theory.

Opinions on the saffron outfit changing the shorts to mainly saffron with white stripes, instead of white shorts with saffron stripes? Was told there was tension in camp due to this years gear, things said such as 'the training tops are drowning us' or 'how can u call these skinny bottoms?' and its understood players aren't happy with how they look on the pitch in compared to your Derrys or Tyrones.

Is this an issue that needs dealt with? or typical modern day footballer bulls***
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 17, 2023, 10:31:12 AM
Div 1 predictions

LD v St Endas-home win 4+
TNN v NB home win 2+
Creggan v MG-MG 3+
Cargin v ODR- home win 3+
Galls v Aghagallon- home win 2+
PG1 v NE-home win 4+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 17, 2023, 03:14:00 PM
Div 1 predictions

LD v St Endas - Home win 4+
TNN v NB - Away win 1+
Creggan v MG - Away win 1+
Cargin v ODR- Home win 5+
Galls v Aghagallon- Away win 2+
PG1 v NE - Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 17, 2023, 03:37:38 PM
Div 1 predictions

LD v St Endas - Home win 5+
TNN v NB - Away win for Lavey 1+
Creggan v MG - Home win 1+
Cargin v ODR- Draw
Galls v Aghagallon- Away win 1+
PG1 v NE - Narrow Home win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 17, 2023, 10:32:30 PM
Not just so easy to cross the county boundary and get results it seems 🆘⬇️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on May 17, 2023, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 17, 2023, 10:32:30 PM
Not just so easy to cross the county boundary and get results it seems 🆘⬇️

Lavey/st brids will have their work cut out to avoid the drop now big win for TNN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 18, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: Saul goodman on May 17, 2023, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 17, 2023, 10:32:30 PM
Not just so easy to cross the county boundary and get results it seems 🆘⬇️

Lavey/st brids will have their work cut out to avoid the drop now big win for TNN

Def a big win seeing as they looked to be on for a hammering in the first half.

6 points down at half time.

So it was a reversal of a few other games this year, where we've played well in the first half and threw it away in the second.

What is the scenario after the split, will teams have a full squad to pick from or will county players still be away, at least until Tailteann Cup is over.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 18, 2023, 01:44:10 PM
What are the rules around social clubs being opened during games?
As far as i was aware it is not allowed to be open?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 18, 2023, 01:59:15 PM
I thought they were allowed to be open but drink must be kept inside them
Any reason in particular you ask?
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 18, 2023, 01:44:10 PM
What are the rules around social clubs being opened during games?
As far as i was aware it is not allowed to be open?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 18, 2023, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 18, 2023, 01:59:15 PM
I thought they were allowed to be open but drink must be kept inside them
Any reason in particular you ask?
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 18, 2023, 01:44:10 PM
What are the rules around social clubs being opened during games?
As far as i was aware it is not allowed to be open?

Just have heard a few reports and witnessed myself the bar at st endas being open and having a few lads having a few and shouting abuse at players.
Just wondering if different rules apply for the county chairman's club .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 18, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
Social club premises/bars are not allowed to remain open during games.........







Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 18, 2023, 02:27:01 PM
I was under the impression the bar at Corrigan remains open during games (perhaps I am wrong)

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 18, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
Social club premises/bars are not allowed to remain open during games.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 18, 2023, 02:27:28 PM
have mitnessed a member at st endas leave the bar to go and do umpire at the end nearest the bar. lets just say the pints affected his judgement and temperment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on May 18, 2023, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 18, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
Social club premises/bars are not allowed to remain open during games.........

Is that not up to each individual club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 18, 2023, 03:29:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 18, 2023, 02:27:28 PM
have mitnessed a member at st endas leave the bar to go and do umpire at the end nearest the bar. lets just say the pints affected his judgement and temperment
We had problems in said location a few weeks back. Recipe for disaster unless dealt with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2023, 04:25:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 18, 2023, 02:27:01 PM
I was under the impression the bar at Corrigan remains open during games (perhaps I am wrong)

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 18, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
Social club premises/bars are not allowed to remain open during games.........

Yes and a fantastic view of the pitch, made even better by a lovely pint....

People are rude regardless of having pints or not I get lovely choice words in most games, though I must say last nights was a delight and fair play to both sets of players and managers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 18, 2023, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 18, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
Social club premises/bars are not allowed to remain open during games.........

Last year we went up to O'Ds for an U15 championship game.

About half a dozen fellas left the bar with their pints and stood on the sideline, apart from when they went back in the get more pints, and shouted abuse at our players for the whole game.

It was reported back to our club by another spectator and supposedly passed on to Ulster GAA but we haven't heard a peep since.

No one really gives a toss.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on May 18, 2023, 10:08:42 PM
Giving some of the stuff you say on here Belfast Gaa man, you didn't get half enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 18, 2023, 11:27:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Reading that post, it's seems like you are on the pints yourself ffs  (https://cdn.theforum365.com/emoticons/icon_lol.gif) (https://cdn.theforum365.com/emoticons/nono.gif)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.

A country club lost homes games the other year and another lost home games this year but I get your point  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.

A country club lost homes games the other year and another lost home games this year but I get your point  ;)

So you are saying only country clubs get punished and the Belfast clubs get away scot free  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.

A country club lost homes games the other year and another lost home games this year but I get your point  ;)

So you are saying only country clubs get punished and the Belfast clubs get away scot free  ;) ;D

Just adding some balance to the thread

Any sorta pinting will result in the extra crap thrown about at games, there is nothing anyone can do if someone comes to the spectator's end and be pissed, but what we can't allow is for randomer's coming from a function (which I believe happened at the Cargin game) and throw that crap around without it being punished or managed better at the time.

I wrote a report before for the same venue 2 years ago, in which there was a verbal attack, which things can easily escalate. It's not a good look.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.

A country club lost homes games the other year and another lost home games this year but I get your point  ;)

So you are saying only country clubs get punished and the Belfast clubs get away scot free  ;) ;D

Just adding some balance to the thread

Any sorta pinting will result in the extra crap thrown about at games, there is nothing anyone can do if someone comes to the spectator's end and be pissed, but what we can't allow is for randomer's coming from a function (which I believe happened at the Cargin game) and throw that crap around without it being punished or managed better at the time.

I wrote a report before for the same venue 2 years ago, in which there was a verbal attack, which things can easily escalate. It's not a good look.

There is if they are walking back and forth to the bar during the game and giving abuse to children.

Close the bar and club officials can tell them to leave instead of turning a blind eye.

In fact, there was a county representative standing right beside them at the time....


Well done on the money raised in the charity spin btw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.

A country club lost homes games the other year and another lost home games this year but I get your point  ;)

So you are saying only country clubs get punished and the Belfast clubs get away scot free  ;) ;D

Just adding some balance to the thread

Any sorta pinting will result in the extra crap thrown about at games, there is nothing anyone can do if someone comes to the spectator's end and be pissed, but what we can't allow is for randomer's coming from a function (which I believe happened at the Cargin game) and throw that crap around without it being punished or managed better at the time.

I wrote a report before for the same venue 2 years ago, in which there was a verbal attack, which things can easily escalate. It's not a good look.

Well done on the money raised in the charity spin btw

Colm behind a lot of that and for a great cause.. Was going to bring some padded shorts and thought, nah, wish I had have the day after! This from someone that did spin 6 days a week! You fairly noticed the difference when not doing it 2 years!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2023, 11:46:53 AM
No better man for a bit of spin too.

Ps; Just couldn't resist that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2023, 12:01:51 PM
Best of luck to senior team and management tomorrow when we travel to Wexford. Won't be an easy assignment but we need at least one more point in this group to be sure of qualifying.

Can't make this one, my daughter Eimear is getting married tomorrow...but will be tuning in, lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 19, 2023, 12:55:39 PM
Lovely Bannside, have a great day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 19, 2023, 12:58:49 PM
Bankside, what was your thoughts on that meeting last Monday night? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 19, 2023, 02:03:07 PM
Thanks Brendan.

I expect this exercise will harvest something positive SW, a lot of good content covered and genuine appetite to deliver something tangible. It's only a starting point, but everyone agreed on the need for clubs to take more responsibility for juveniles and also a clear view that we need schools to step up, especially in years 8 and 9. Can we as a county be doing more to assist them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 19, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on May 18, 2023, 09:37:12 PM
Many's a trip to the country and spectators di nt need drinks to abuse us city lads . Moneyglass and rasharkin spectators always have belfast boys plent of stick.  Glass houses

Not having a dig at Belfast clubs in general, I know there are country teams that aren't all that welcoming without naming any!.

My point was that at that one particular club, they left the social club open during a match, in which a number of grown men, while drinking, felt it appropriate to come out and abuse 14 and 15 year old boys.

Hopefully they get dealt with at some point as it is completely unacceptable.

A country club lost homes games the other year and another lost home games this year but I get your point  ;)

So you are saying only country clubs get punished and the Belfast clubs get away scot free  ;) ;D

Just adding some balance to the thread

Any sorta pinting will result in the extra crap thrown about at games, there is nothing anyone can do if someone comes to the spectator's end and be pissed, but what we can't allow is for randomer's coming from a function (which I believe happened at the Cargin game) and throw that crap around without it being punished or managed better at the time.

I wrote a report before for the same venue 2 years ago, in which there was a verbal attack, which things can easily escalate. It's not a good look.

Well done on the money raised in the charity spin btw

Colm behind a lot of that and for a great cause.. Was going to bring some padded shorts and thought, nah, wish I had have the day after! This from someone that did spin 6 days a week! You fairly noticed the difference when not doing it 2 years!

I know the feeling after spin....walking like John Wayne the next day!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 20, 2023, 06:39:35 PM
Go Antrim, let's see this out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 20, 2023, 06:39:35 PM
Go Antrim, let's see this out.

Win one more game and straight to Quarter finals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 20, 2023, 07:07:57 PM
Domnall Mc Enhill Michael Byrne and Ruairi McCann on fire. One foot in the quarters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 20, 2023, 07:24:16 PM
Brilliant win away from home. Still putting up big scores, scoring goals, great to see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2023, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

Sure some buck eejit was looking the Wicklow manager to take over ;D he's doing well I see lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on May 20, 2023, 08:25:11 PM
Winner takes the quarter-final place next time out; Antrim guaranteed at worst 2nd place regardless of result, Fermanagh could finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 20, 2023, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

And remind them that the previous manager thought Ruairi McCann was too old and not good enough 🤷🏽‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 20, 2023, 09:18:23 PM
Be no content for the podcast this weekend.

Fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 20, 2023, 09:19:29 PM
Think we won that second half by 9 points, can't ask for more than that. Yea JS, previous management found a way not to get the best out of the three aforementioned when a blind man watching Antrim club football could tell they were good enough.

Enjoy your night in Maynooth Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2023, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 20, 2023, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

And remind them that the previous manager thought Ruairi McCann was too old and not good enough 🤷🏽‍♂️

He's a good one. You can see why aghagallon usually in latter stages of championship it's him and Loughran.

Fermanagh game will be interesting. They gave Leitrim a decent beating too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 20, 2023, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

Perspective is important. I don't think anyone can argue against there being progress here however wins over basement teams like Leitrim and Wexford are not what we should be measuring against. Bigger and more accurate tests ahead. Fermanagh is the first of these. Keep it going Andy and team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 20, 2023, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: ck on May 20, 2023, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

Perspective is important. I don't think anyone can argue against there being progress here however wins over basement teams like Leitrim and Wexford are not what we should be measuring against. Bigger and more accurate tests ahead. Fermanagh is the first of these. Keep it going Andy and team!

Agree totally in pursuit of the secondary competition should not be the aim of Antrim as our neighbours across the river bank Ulster titles and look to the National stage.

Some on this board seeking to kick away at previous management.
Can I remind those who need reminding those lads have trodden routes we can only dream about..
Provincial and National.winners to include on of our own who is one of the best footballers this county has ever produced......take a bow Sean Kelly take no heed of those who will never walk in your footprints....
.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: ck on May 20, 2023, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

Perspective is important. I don't think anyone can argue against there being progress here however wins over basement teams like Leitrim and Wexford are not what we should be measuring against. Bigger and more accurate tests ahead. Fermanagh is the first of these. Keep it going Andy and team!
Wexford drew with Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2023, 08:07:54 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 20, 2023, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: ck on May 20, 2023, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 20, 2023, 07:10:51 PM
Smashing win.  Will the McEntee critics on here acknowledge progress is being made?

Perspective is important. I don't think anyone can argue against there being progress here however wins over basement teams like Leitrim and Wexford are not what we should be measuring against. Bigger and more accurate tests ahead. Fermanagh is the first of these. Keep it going Andy and team!

Agree totally in pursuit of the secondary competition should not be the aim of Antrim as our neighbours across the river bank Ulster titles and look to the National stage.

Some on this board seeking to kick away at previous management.
Can I remind those who need reminding those lads have trodden routes we can only dream about..
Provincial and National.winners to include on of our own who is one of the best footballers this county has ever produced......take a bow Sean Kelly take no heed of those who will never walk in your footprints....
.

Sam maguire or nothing eh?

Wexford is a good win but one you would hope we would win too. Fermanagh will be interesting.

There have been significant digs at current manager and previous manager. Neither tbh are necessary. They are outsiders who wouldn't know any players so it's not like anything is personal in either case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Great win away to Wexford no ifs or buts about it. Wouldn't be fearing Fermanagh either.
In other news locally we have a referee who can't admit mistakes when keeping the score and despite everyone else in the ground thinking one thing he went with his own score. Draw when clearly was a Cargin win you couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 21, 2023, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Great win away to Wexford no ifs or buts about it. Wouldn't be fearing Fermanagh either.
In other news locally we have a referee who can't admit mistakes when keeping the score and despite everyone else in the ground thinking one thing he went with his own score. Draw when clearly was a Cargin win you couldn't make it up.


Sure it's only the league EOC, Cargin dont care about that...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 21, 2023, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Great win away to Wexford no ifs or buts about it. Wouldn't be fearing Fermanagh either.
In other news locally we have a referee who can't admit mistakes when keeping the score and despite everyone else in the ground thinking one thing he went with his own score. Draw when clearly was a Cargin win you couldn't make it up.


Sure it's only the league EOC, Cargin dont care about that...
Aye totally right just let it pass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young
With that analysis it doesn't sound like your that disappointed 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 21, 2023, 09:41:33 AM
Good to see our Oisin Doherty get 10 mins yesterday. Plenty of pace and great eye for a score in club football. Won't be out of place at county level.

Yes CB, the previous management were all superb footballers, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 21, 2023, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young

Didn't know he left the panel. Very good footballer but maybe doesn't have the pace for inter county atm. Still only young and I'd say he will be back on a county panel in the future if he wants it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2023, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 21, 2023, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young

Didn't know he left the panel. Very good footballer but maybe doesn't have the pace for inter county atm. Still only young and I'd say he will be back on a county panel in the future if he wants it.

For a 'novice' who has a lot to learn Pat has a pocketful of championship medals......Is he the only one who has left the County panel...?



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 10:48:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Great win away to Wexford no ifs or buts about it. Wouldn't be fearing Fermanagh either.
In other news locally we have a referee who can't admit mistakes when keeping the score and despite everyone else in the ground thinking one thing he went with his own score. Draw when clearly was a Cargin win you couldn't make it up.

They normally have the score board up? Was it showing the score?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:05:04 AM
Some win for the lads yday, hopefully now go on to take 3 from 3. Am I right in saying that the league's finish this week and then they split? I see there are a few teams to play matches in hand, how would that work?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2023, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 10:48:47 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Great win away to Wexford no ifs or buts about it. Wouldn't be fearing Fermanagh either.
In other news locally we have a referee who can't admit mistakes when keeping the score and despite everyone else in the ground thinking one thing he went with his own score. Draw when clearly was a Cargin win you couldn't make it up.

They normally have the score board up? Was it showing the score?

No scoreboard and a ref who took no heed of those who told him the score.....including his umpire.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2023, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:05:04 AM
Some win for the lads yday, hopefully now go on to take 3 from 3. Am I right in saying that the league's finish this week and then they split? I see there are a few teams to play matches in hand, how would that work?

2 more rounds AFTER today before the split
Next Sunday and Wed 7th june

When they finish, the only outstanding game will be the ahoghill Creggan game, for which i don't know if that result has been declared yet 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:43:26 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2023, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:05:04 AM
Some win for the lads yday, hopefully now go on to take 3 from 3. Am I right in saying that the league's finish this week and then they split? I see there are a few teams to play matches in hand, how would that work?

2 more rounds AFTER today before the split
Next Sunday and Wed 7th june

When they finish, the only outstanding game will be the ahoghill Creggan game, for which i don't know if that result has been declared yet


For division 2 this couldn't be the case either then ? As most teams will have their fixtures played but there are a few teams who have games in hand?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2023, 11:53:32 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:43:26 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2023, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:05:04 AM
Some win for the lads yday, hopefully now go on to take 3 from 3. Am I right in saying that the league's finish this week and then they split? I see there are a few teams to play matches in hand, how would that work?

2 more rounds AFTER today before the split
Next Sunday and Wed 7th june

When they finish, the only outstanding game will be the ahoghill Creggan game, for which i don't know if that result has been declared yet


For division 2 this couldn't be the case either then ? As most teams will have their fixtures played but there are a few teams who have games in hand?

Division 2 is different due to an even amount of teams therefore no byes required. 2 rescheduled games on later this week
Seems to be an issue regarding Aldergrove games but I don't know what
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games
Mistakes happen in life, we"ll park it and move on. Was just highlighting it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 21, 2023, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games




Head of referees and he got score wrong not only that but his umpire corrected him and also both teams but he decided he can't be wrong and still had cargin down by 3 at HT
Only a league game yes but you are either right or your wrong and he was very wrong this time the arrogance of the man was astounding!everyone can make a mistake but at least own up to it and amend it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 21, 2023, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games




Head of referees and he got score wrong not only that but his umpire corrected him and also both teams but he decided he can't be wrong and still had cargin down by 3 at HT
Only a league game yes but you are either right or your wrong and he was very wrong this time the arrogance of the man was astounding!everyone can make a mistake but at least own up to it and amend it.


But you're going to park it  ;D

I jest, I hope the saffron Gael report has the correct score up  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 21, 2023, 01:53:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 21, 2023, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games




Head of referees and he got score wrong not only that but his umpire corrected him and also both teams but he decided he can't be wrong and still had cargin down by 3 at HT
Only a league game yes but you are either right or your wrong and he was very wrong this time the arrogance of the man was astounding!everyone can make a mistake but at least own up to it and amend it.


But you're going to park it  ;D

I jest, I hope the saffron Gael report has the correct score up  ;)

Go check the S G report.....easy to count the individual scorers.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 21, 2023, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young
With that analysis it doesn't sound like your that disappointed 😂

I am.

I want Antrim to be successful and he is obviously one of our most talented players

He's still young and hopefully will fulfil his potential.  We are all on the same side here....he 100percent needs to work of his conditioning,  speed , sharpness and fitness and should be pushed by all to do so, for the good of the County
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 22, 2023, 03:31:54 PM
So you are telling me that for instance if you blow for mark which was actually kicked inside the 45 and realise your mistake you let the game go on and don't, say hop the ball?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2023, 03:45:49 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 22, 2023, 03:31:54 PM
So you are telling me that for instance if you blow for mark which was actually kicked inside the 45 and realise your mistake you let the game go on and don't, say hop the ball?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
Did a game a few weeks ago. Players and managers knew the score as I was telling them throughout but the supporters had a different score! An umpire had put up his hand for a score, I was behind it, gave a wide but they must have thought it was a score...

The only other one is marking a point down on the wrong side..

There is actually a rule in the book that if you make the wrong call, you can't change it.

Of course I'm not debating the score, I wasn't at it but not uncommon for managers to check with ref on the current score. Especially in tight games

I'm happy enough to say I sorta got that wrong lol!! It could have been a free out for overcarrying as he tried to claim a mark when the free was sent in, I blew the whistle incorrectly, but gave a hop ball so that I didn't make it worse for both teams, if ya know what I mean.. See even I can make a blunder lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 22, 2023, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2023, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 21, 2023, 11:05:04 AM
Some win for the lads yday, hopefully now go on to take 3 from 3. Am I right in saying that the league's finish this week and then they split? I see there are a few teams to play matches in hand, how would that work?

2 more rounds AFTER today before the split
Next Sunday and Wed 7th june

When they finish, the only outstanding game will be the ahoghill Creggan game, for which i don't know if that result has been declared yet

Ahoghill were awarded points and Creggan mentors were sanctioned, as well as senior footballers losing home advantage for remaining league fixtures....

But......am hearing Kickham's have lodged appeal.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 22, 2023, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young
With that analysis it doesn't sound like your that disappointed 😂

I am.

I want Antrim to be successful and he is obviously one of our most talented players

He's still young and hopefully will fulfil his potential.  We are all on the same side here....he 100percent needs to work of his conditioning,  speed , sharpness and fitness and should be pushed by all to do so, for the good of the County

Pat was used to playing MacRory Cup football not McLarnon Cup. Could be he sees more value heading back to his club to do the hard work than playing County friendlies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 22, 2023, 11:04:38 PM
Quote from: 1884 on May 22, 2023, 06:10:29 PM
Anyone able to clarify promotion/relegation for each of the leagues?
2 automatically down in Div1 with only one coming up. Is that right? Div2?

Two down, 1 promoted from/ to Div 1&2 in football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 23, 2023, 08:58:56 AM
Spike, you're a wise poster to be fair but that last post of yours isn't doing Pat any favours. Reads like Pat thinks he's too good for the Tailteean Cup, and I would seriously doubt that's what he's thinking. Very condescending post imo.

Pat is terrific player and will bounce back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 23, 2023, 09:20:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on May 22, 2023, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young
With that analysis it doesn't sound like your that disappointed 😂

I am.

I want Antrim to be successful and he is obviously one of our most talented players

He's still young and hopefully will fulfil his potential.  We are all on the same side here....he 100percent needs to work of his conditioning,  speed , sharpness and fitness and should be pushed by all to do so, for the good of the County

Pat was used to playing MacRory Cup football not McLarnon Cup. Could be he sees more value heading back to his club to do the hard work than playing County friendlies

Sounds like you are in the same camp as the hurling snobs

"a sort of Gaelic football Grand National for disappointed also rans".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2023, 09:25:57 AM
We've won a handful of games in the championship in forty odd years yet a championship at our level is introduced and people look down on it. Doesn't make any sense to me. Pity about shivers but he has huge ability and will hopefully be back.

Tc is perfect for us otherwise we will year on year be measured on unrealistic expectations in the championship in a province where most other teams are division one level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on May 23, 2023, 09:28:11 AM
BS i certainly would not want to portray Pat as such.  By all accounts he is a level headed fellow with his feet firmly on the ground.    He can only do what he feels is best for his own development which at this moment appears to be in Cargin rather than with Antrim.

Isn't supposed to be a condescending post. We are all allowed to have opinions and some will value the tailteann cup more than others which they are entitled to do
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 23, 2023, 10:02:14 AM
All good, fair enough Spike.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2023, 10:15:21 AM
The TC is our level, in my lifetime I've saw Antrim win maybe 7 championship games.

Any little success is welcomed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 23, 2023, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2023, 09:25:57 AM
We've won a handful of games in the championship in forty odd years yet a championship at our level is introduced and people look down on it. Doesn't make any sense to me. Pity about shivers but he has huge ability and will hopefully be back.

Tc is perfect for us otherwise we will year on year be measured on unrealistic expectations in the championship in a province where most other teams are division one level.

Totally agree.

We should be glad that the Taitleann Cup is there for us to use it to build a bit of confidence by winning a few games, rather than the annual early exit from the Championship.

It is our level and will be our level for a number of years as we just are too far away from the big boys.

I certainly wouldn't be turning my nose up at winning the TC, especially if we can bring players through from minor and let them experience that winning feeling.

Something to build from.

Same as the hurlers in the Joe McDonagh, not the end goal but good to use to improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 11:28:37 AM
Antrim still have more Ulster titles than Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 23, 2023, 11:36:11 AM
100%, the TC has given Andy another 2 months to see who he wants to take into his second year. If you take 3 or 4 challenge games, plus another 3 - 7 TC games, that's a lot of football to build momentum and provide a platform for new players to show what they can do.

Fermanagh 4pm Athletic grounds is next up on Sunday week, will be a good test of where we are at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 23, 2023, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 11:28:37 AM
Antrim still have more Ulster titles than Derry.

Even bannside wouldn't remember the most recent one !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 23, 2023, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: Spike on May 23, 2023, 09:28:11 AM
BS i certainly would not want to portray Pat as such.  By all accounts he is a level headed fellow with his feet firmly on the ground.    He can only do what he feels is best for his own development which at this moment appears to be in Cargin rather than with Antrim.

Isn't supposed to be a condescending post. We are all allowed to have opinions and some will value the tailteann cup more than others which they are entitled to do

Maybe he's on a plane to America soon!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 23, 2023, 11:49:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 23, 2023, 08:58:56 AM
Spike, you're a wise poster to be fair but that last post of yours isn't doing Pat any favours. Reads like Pat thinks he's too good for the Tailteean Cup, and I would seriously doubt that's what he's thinking. Very condescending post imo.

Pat is terrific player and will bounce back.
I'd say it's more a case of struggling not being allowed to play for the club, not getting on for Antrim at the same time. Then watching others being allowed to play for their club and play for Antrim such as Declan Lynch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2023, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 23, 2023, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: Spike on May 23, 2023, 09:28:11 AM
BS i certainly would not want to portray Pat as such.  By all accounts he is a level headed fellow with his feet firmly on the ground.    He can only do what he feels is best for his own development which at this moment appears to be in Cargin rather than with Antrim.

Isn't supposed to be a condescending post. We are all allowed to have opinions and some will value the tailteann cup more than others which they are entitled to do

Maybe he's on a plane to America soon!

Big Pat is a complete gentleman and has more championship medals, senior and minor than most on this board.
Certainly not in love with goings on in the Saffron...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2023, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 23, 2023, 11:49:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 23, 2023, 08:58:56 AM
Spike, you're a wise poster to be fair but that last post of yours isn't doing Pat any favours. Reads like Pat thinks he's too good for the Tailteean Cup, and I would seriously doubt that's what he's thinking. Very condescending post imo.

Pat is terrific player and will bounce back.
I'd say it's more a case of struggling not being allowed to play for the club, not getting on for Antrim at the same time. Then watching others being allowed to play for their club and play for Antrim such as Declan Lynch

I don't understand the lynch scenario either. Same for several fringe players not getting club games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2023, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2023, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 23, 2023, 11:49:43 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 23, 2023, 08:58:56 AM
Spike, you're a wise poster to be fair but that last post of yours isn't doing Pat any favours. Reads like Pat thinks he's too good for the Tailteean Cup, and I would seriously doubt that's what he's thinking. Very condescending post imo.

Pat is terrific player and will bounce back.
I'd say it's more a case of struggling not being allowed to play for the club, not getting on for Antrim at the same time. Then watching others being allowed to play for their club and play for Antrim such as Declan Lynch

I don't understand the lynch scenario either. Same for several fringe players not getting club games.

Sean O' Neil one of the best 'young' played about was ignored for most of the time he was in the county panel.....game time in minutes.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2023, 06:10:46 PM
I very much doubt it's a club gripe. Different managers favour different players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 23, 2023, 07:20:53 PM
Andy has picked things up really well despite a dozen absentees and half a dozen injuries.

The man has practically  built a new squad, and achieved targets for the year, how hard can it be for some people to be gracious enough to say well done and keep it going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 23, 2023, 07:23:35 PM
Sean O Neill was going well I heard and if he hadn't picked up an injury would be there or thereabouts for team selection. Not many walk in and claim a jersey in first few months, sometimes you need to be patient and play your way in. Agree he's quality, but plenty young enough to make a big contribution to the cause in coming years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2023, 08:28:53 PM
Surely the Derry team could use these lads that aren't getting picked?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 23, 2023, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2023, 08:28:53 PM
Surely the Derry team could use these lads that aren't getting picked?

No those are Brigid's lads...

Cargin can use them in a squad that is utilising all the young and talented like Sean, and Pat....
Conhuir Johnston and Benen Kelly....

Hard enuf to claim a first team slot rather that bench warming.......

Possibly why Pat returned to club duties.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 24, 2023, 07:41:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 23, 2023, 07:20:53 PM
Andy has picked things up really well despite a dozen absentees and half a dozen injuries.

The man has practically  built a new squad, and achieved targets for the year, how hard can it be for some people to be gracious enough to say well done and keep it going.


He's a shitebag if you ask me stringing young fellas along too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2023, 08:15:25 AM
Is it not the same issue in any county though? It's just more apparent now with more games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 24, 2023, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 24, 2023, 07:41:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 23, 2023, 07:20:53 PM
Andy has picked things up really well despite a dozen absentees and half a dozen injuries.

The man has practically  built a new squad, and achieved targets for the year, how hard can it be for some people to be gracious enough to say well done and keep it going.


He's a shitebag if you ask me stringing young fellas along too



iTs hard to get this right I'd say for the manager, seems a few lads only in there to help training numbers then you look at Ronan Boyle who never got a sniff during the league but has got his opportunity now in the TT cup and grabbed it with both hands, has been excellent in last two games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2023, 11:03:17 AM
Bang on. County football unsustainable in current form and they just keep throwing more games in no matter what. It's impossible to keep a squad content.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 12:54:27 PM
Someone obsessed with medals and relating them to management achievements.. crazy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 24, 2023, 12:58:25 PM
Jesus CB is very sensitive when it comes to previous management! Why??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on May 24, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Being a fantastic player and All Ireland winner does not make you a great a manager

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 24, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Being a fantastic player and All Ireland winner does not make you a great a manager

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......

I know plenty of lads with many championship medals that wouldn't get on our thirds at the time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 24, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Being a fantastic player and All Ireland winner does not make you a great a manager

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......

I know plenty of lads with many championship medals that wouldn't get on our thirds at the time
Similarly, there is lads getting on for the last 10mins for Antrim seniors that wouldn't make our club senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 24, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Being a fantastic player and All Ireland winner does not make you a great a manager

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......

I know plenty of lads with many championship medals that wouldn't get on our thirds at the time
Similarly, there is lads getting on for the last 10mins for Antrim seniors that wouldn't make our club senior team

Theres a number of players STARTING who wouldn't get anywhere near it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Yes I agree, Boyle, Finnegan(s) and Hynds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 24, 2023, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Yes I agree, Boyle, Finnegan(s) and Hynds.

Is Hynds not about 19?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Yes I agree, Boyle, Finnegan(s) and Hynds.

also, Bryne (great keeper wouldn't start tho) Dowling (he would struggle to get on the reserve team) Stewart
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 24, 2023, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Yes I agree, Boyle, Finnegan(s) and Hynds.

Is Hynds not about 19?

doesn't matter what age he is he still wouldn't start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on May 24, 2023, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 24, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Being a fantastic player and All Ireland winner does not make you a great a manager

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......

I know plenty of lads with many championship medals that wouldn't get on our thirds at the time
Similarly, there is lads getting on for the last 10mins for Antrim seniors that wouldn't make our club senior team

Theres a number of players STARTING who wouldn't get anywhere near it

Give your head a wobble there are players on Antrim team that wouldn't get anywhere near Cargin team?  Cargin have decent players no doubt but they fell over the line in antrim last year and haven't done anything of note in Ulster despite a number of gos at it in recent years.     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: statto on May 24, 2023, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on May 24, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Being a fantastic player and All Ireland winner does not make you a great a manager

Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 11:08:40 AM
Great post Duine. You can understand Cargin being a bit sore that they don't have players getting game time, them being at top end of Antrim football for a long time.

And I agree that its a hard slog for players falling between two stools, no game minutes for county and zero for club either. Players need to make their own mind up on where the tipping point is here, but as you say this is not particular to one club or one county, its widespread.

Adam Loughran and Dermot McAleese missed most of the league, but are playing out of their skin now for the county. Dommo has stepped up after enduring a horrific year of false promises under previous management, Mick too in goals, and how Ruari Mc Cann (St Marys) was overlooked...I can't find the right words to use.

It's a moving feast and players need to realise they might have to do a year or two apprenticeship, it happens in every county. Ps - Ronan Boyle an excellent example. Hardly kicked a ball in the league, but showed what he can do in training and in challenge games. That has to be rewarded as well regardless of what club you are attached to.

Jeez another dig at past management...and sure the all Ireland medals the hold will jump out of their hands......

Wonder who signed up the present custodian.......

I know plenty of lads with many championship medals that wouldn't get on our thirds at the time
Similarly, there is lads getting on for the last 10mins for Antrim seniors that wouldn't make our club senior team

Theres a number of players STARTING who wouldn't get anywhere near it

Give your head a wobble there are players on Antrim team that wouldn't get anywhere near Cargin team?  Cargin have decent players no doubt but they fell over the line in antrim last year and haven't done anything of note in Ulster despite a number of gos at it in recent years.   

Theres players from our own club on the Antrim team who are not certified starters... Cargin beat Donegal champions and gave AI runners up their toughest test in Ulster no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 24, 2023, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 24, 2023, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Yes I agree, Boyle, Finnegan(s) and Hynds.

Is Hynds not about 19?

doesn't matter what age he is he still wouldn't start

It's a bizarre argument, McEntee (who knows more than most on here I'm guessing) obviously sees something in him that he can develop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
Lads naming people who give up a large chunk of their life to represent antim doesnt sit well with me. Andy picks his squad, his 15 and makes changes in the game, if a player in your opinion is below par, that is not their fault. Naming them will also not help. Especially young lads.

Why dont we enter Cargin in the TC next year and get a trophy back up the road??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 02:38:01 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 24, 2023, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 24, 2023, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
Yes I agree, Boyle, Finnegan(s) and Hynds.

Is Hynds not about 19?

doesn't matter what age he is he still wouldn't start

It's a bizarre argument, McEntee (who knows more than most on here I'm guessing) obviously sees something in him that he can develop.

It's just my opinion is this board not a place to speak you opinion??
McEntee doesnt even know what clubs some of the players play for...

Also not saying the cub isn't a good player just don't think he would start for cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
Lads naming people who give up a large chunk of their life to represent antim doesnt sit well with me. Andy picks his squad, his 15 and makes changes in the game, if a player in your opinion is below par, that is not their fault. Naming them will also not help. Especially young lads.

Why dont we enter Cargin in the TC next year and get a trophy back up the road??
Petty comment at the end, All about opinions is it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 24, 2023, 02:56:58 PM
Getting a bit personal here lads.

We could all throw stones at other clubs and their players but let's not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 03:00:21 PM
No no keep her lit ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
Lads naming people who give up a large chunk of their life to represent antim doesnt sit well with me. Andy picks his squad, his 15 and makes changes in the game, if a player in your opinion is below par, that is not their fault. Naming them will also not help. Especially young lads.

Why dont we enter Cargin in the TC next year and get a trophy back up the road??

Any football teams in North Antrim......Ballycastle..??


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
Lads naming people who give up a large chunk of their life to represent antim doesnt sit well with me. Andy picks his squad, his 15 and makes changes in the game, if a player in your opinion is below par, that is not their fault. Naming them will also not help. Especially young lads.

Why dont we enter Cargin in the TC next year and get a trophy back up the road??

Any football teams in North Antrim......Ballycastle..??

Dunloy?  Glenravel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 03:15:55 PM
Rasharkin, Ballymena, St Endas
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2023, 02:56:58 PM
Getting a bit personal here lads.

We could all throw stones at other clubs and their players but let's not.
Fail to see how commenting on team selection is getting personal, and pointing out a player wouldnt make a strong club team is not an insult its a way of emphasising the point

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2023, 03:47:28 PM
Club and county are very different beasts. Listen to Sean quigley on that Gaa social about it. It can be about mindsets, athleticism, ability to play in specific systems etc. Club setups are vastly different. Better footballers may not be as adaptable to specific setups etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 24, 2023, 03:50:53 PM
very true ITG.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 24, 2023, 03:52:07 PM
As if anyone on this thread has much to crow about.  Antrim have been rubbish for decades. Underage squads have been rubbish for decades.  Club teams with the exception of St Galls have achieved nothing outside the county.  Men pointing out who they nearly beat fs.  You have to laugh. 
A wee bit of humility would go a long way. If a county manager sees something in a player then let them give it a go, the road is hardly littered with previous shining examples of success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 03:57:43 PM
We've also won our last two championship games. Showing signs of improvement. Positivity!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 03:57:43 PM
We've also won our last two championship games. Showing signs of improvement. Positivity!

Improvement? beating two div 4 teams?
will be improvement if they can beat Fermanagh and top the group
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
Lads naming people who give up a large chunk of their life to represent antim doesnt sit well with me. Andy picks his squad, his 15 and makes changes in the game, if a player in your opinion is below par, that is not their fault. Naming them will also not help. Especially young lads.

Why dont we enter Cargin in the TC next year and get a trophy back up the road??

Any football teams in North Antrim......Ballycastle..??

Dunloy?  Glenravel?

Last time I looked both Cuchullians and Con Magees are in South West division....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 24, 2023, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 03:57:43 PM
We've also won our last two championship games. Showing signs of improvement. Positivity!

Improvement? beating two div 4 teams?
will be improvement if they can beat Fermanagh and top the group
Wexford drew with Fermanagh (in Enniskillen).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
Lads naming people who give up a large chunk of their life to represent antim doesnt sit well with me. Andy picks his squad, his 15 and makes changes in the game, if a player in your opinion is below par, that is not their fault. Naming them will also not help. Especially young lads.

Why dont we enter Cargin in the TC next year and get a trophy back up the road??

Any football teams in North Antrim......Ballycastle..??

Dunloy?  Glenravel?

Last time I looked both Cuchullians and Con Magees are in South West division....

You asked is there any teams in North Antrim...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 24, 2023, 03:52:07 PM
As if anyone on this thread has much to crow about.  Antrim have been rubbish for decades. Underage squads have been rubbish for decades.  Club teams with the exception of St Galls have achieved nothing outside the county.  Men pointing out who they nearly beat fs.  You have to laugh. 
A wee bit of humility would go a long way. If a county manager sees something in a player then let them give it a go, the road is hardly littered with previous shining examples of success.

Have to bow to your knowledge Sport.......but did Cargin not beat the Donegal champions last year.....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 24, 2023, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 03:57:43 PM
We've also won our last two championship games. Showing signs of improvement. Positivity!

Improvement? beating two div 4 teams?
will be improvement if they can beat Fermanagh and top the group
We got beat quite comprehensively by 2 Div 4 teams last year..(Granted 1 of them had gained promotion) Very few of the pesky South Belfast upstarts or North Antimers who wouldn't make a good club team. Surprisingly there were lots of players from a strong club team..... Only an opinion or maybe a fact
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 24, 2023, 04:56:09 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 24, 2023, 03:52:07 PM
As if anyone on this thread has much to crow about.  Antrim have been rubbish for decades. Underage squads have been rubbish for decades.  Club teams with the exception of St Galls have achieved nothing outside the county.  Men pointing out who they nearly beat fs.  You have to laugh. 
A wee bit of humility would go a long way. If a county manager sees something in a player then let them give it a go, the road is hardly littered with previous shining examples of success.

Have to bow to your knowledge Sport.......but did Cargin not beat the Donegal champions last year.....?
Is that some sort of achievement? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 05:16:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

credit where credit is due 100%

Turnover of players has been massive. Im sure if most of us (HONESTLY) were told at the start of january the starting team for wexford away in TC we wouldve gave ourselves little to no hope, division 4 oppostion or not. Players have stood up/ matured and are playing to a system. 2 games aside this year has been very positive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 24, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

Absolutely they are busting to,  dying to see Antrim lose to say i told you so.

To call a spade a spade Cargin were extremely lucky to get anything out of the Naomh Conall game last year. They just about stayed in it and then got lucky with the goal and won on pens. They were TURGID against Glen. No shot from play in 1st half, set up not to get hammered. You could argue "we only got beat by" but to any of us we know it may as well ha e been 30points, it was a non event

They've beat other teams in Antrim when the county is at a low ebb, that's it. Haven't made a mark in Ulster bar that penalty win last year. Cannot be compared in the same stratosphere as the St Galls team who went toe to toe with anyone and everyone.

I wish Cargin did win Ulster, i wish they improved our Countys standing, i wish they would throw off the shackles and have a real go in Ulster but fear age has caught up with their better players, the time for that was 5 or more years ago. Just because you win Antrim  when Antrim were at a low ebb does not guarantee all your players start for the County. Shivers can take a point but doesn't move....we  ALL need him to work on that to I prove our County's fare

Compared to the like of a Tomas McCann (who was an absolutely and utterly exceptional footballer for us and a certain starter) he doesn't compare. I'm disappointed he walked away but I appreciate he's young and it's balls not playing any football

The hyper sensitivity re the ex management is bizarre
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 24, 2023, 06:31:11 PM
Tomas was a class act for sure, and big boots to fill. The brother in law using him as a work horse around the middle third in months Feb and March wasn't doing him any favours. Was a completely different player in green later in the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 24, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

Absolutely they are busting to,  dying to see Antrim lose to say i told you so.

To call a spade a spade Cargin were extremely lucky to get anything out of the Naomh Conall game last year. They just about stayed in it and then got lucky with the goal and won on pens. They were TURGID against Glen. No shot from play in 1st half, set up not to get hammered. You could argue "we only got beat by" but to any of us we know it may as well ha e been 30points, it was a non event

They've beat other teams in Antrim when the county is at a low ebb, that's it. Haven't made a mark in Ulster bar that penalty win last year. Cannot be compared in the same stratosphere as the St Galls team who went toe to toe with anyone and everyone.

I wish Cargin did win Ulster, i wish they improved our Countys standing, i wish they would throw off the shackles and have a real go in Ulster but fear age has caught up with their better players, the time for that was 5 or more years ago. Just because you win Antrim  when Antrim were at a low ebb does not guarantee all your players start for the County. Shivers can take a point but doesn't move....we  ALL need him to work on that to I prove our County's fare

Compared to the like of a Tomas McCann (who was an absolutely and utterly exceptional footballer for us and a certain starter) he doesn't compare. I'm disappointed he walked away but I appreciate he's young and it's balls not playing any football

The hyper sensitivity re the ex management is bizarre

Perhaps you will let us all know about your clubs Gold(en) years.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 24, 2023, 07:09:51 PM
There is no doubt about it there are boys hanging back here waiting for the fall.  It'll be funny when they come out of hiding to snipe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on May 24, 2023, 08:26:08 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 24, 2023, 08:20:23 PM
Win, lose, draw....gurning match about Cargin. Rinse. Repeat.

Proper Groundhog Day.

Cya lads, can't be arsed with this drivel.

Up the Saffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on May 24, 2023, 09:39:50 PM
A cargin lad walking away from county team never! them boys have a fish supper on their shoulder
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 24, 2023, 10:28:00 PM
Also remember 3


young Cargin lads have joined the panel

Johnson, kelly and quinn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 10:43:53 PM
Some jealous men about...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2023, 11:06:31 PM
Walls being built very early this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 24, 2023, 11:47:25 PM
As a novice in this chat I am starting to see problems within the politics of clubs on this forum. We need to all build together and get this show back on the road, can I ask why is there no ex county footballers involved in underage setups? Every other county has this nailed on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2023, 08:06:15 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2023, 08:26:08 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 24, 2023, 08:20:23 PM
Win, lose, draw....gurning match about Cargin. Rinse. Repeat.

Proper Groundhog Day.

Cya lads, can't be arsed with this drivel.

Up the Saffs

;D

But what club are you from...


;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 25, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 24, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

Absolutely they are busting to,  dying to see Antrim lose to say i told you so.

To call a spade a spade Cargin were extremely lucky to get anything out of the Naomh Conall game last year. They just about stayed in it and then got lucky with the goal and won on pens. They were TURGID against Glen. No shot from play in 1st half, set up not to get hammered. You could argue "we only got beat by" but to any of us we know it may as well ha e been 30points, it was a non event

They've beat other teams in Antrim when the county is at a low ebb, that's it. Haven't made a mark in Ulster bar that penalty win last year. Cannot be compared in the same stratosphere as the St Galls team who went toe to toe with anyone and everyone.

I wish Cargin did win Ulster, i wish they improved our Countys standing, i wish they would throw off the shackles and have a real go in Ulster but fear age has caught up with their better players, the time for that was 5 or more years ago. Just because you win Antrim  when Antrim were at a low ebb does not guarantee all your players start for the County. Shivers can take a point but doesn't move....we  ALL need him to work on that to I prove our County's fare

Compared to the like of a Tomas McCann (who was an absolutely and utterly exceptional footballer for us and a certain starter) he doesn't compare. I'm disappointed he walked away but I appreciate he's young and it's balls not playing any football

The hyper sensitivity re the ex management is bizarre

Perhaps you will let us all know about your clubs Gold(en) years.....

And there's a bit more hyper sensitivity if evidence was needed.....the bad man said something I didn't like so I must have a dig at him about his club as it makes me feel better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 25, 2023, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 24, 2023, 11:47:25 PM
As a novice in this chat I am starting to see problems within the politics of clubs on this forum. We need to all build together and get this show back on the road, can I ask why is there no ex county footballers involved in underage setups? Every other county has this nailed on


Aaron Douglas
Sean mcgreevy
Tony Convery
John kelly
Owen Doherty

All involved , maybe more I don't know of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on May 25, 2023, 10:02:04 AM
long time lurker, was looking on county website there, is there no div 2 games this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on May 25, 2023, 10:02:04 AM
long time lurker, was looking on county website there, is there no div 2 games this weekend?

After tonight's game it's the end of the regular first round, bar the 2 outstanding games involving Aldergrove
Once that's sorted the 6/6 split will happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 25, 2023, 12:04:54 PM
Div 2 games going ahead this Sunday..1st games of the split.

Regardless of the outstanding games and other issues that are yet to be resolved in Div 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2023, 12:06:46 PM
I see aldergrove beat last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 25, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 25, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 24, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

Absolutely they are busting to,  dying to see Antrim lose to say i told you so.

To call a spade a spade Cargin were extremely lucky to get anything out of the Naomh Conall game last year. They just about stayed in it and then got lucky with the goal and won on pens. They were TURGID against Glen. No shot from play in 1st half, set up not to get hammered. You could argue "we only got beat by" but to any of us we know it may as well ha e been 30points, it was a non event

They've beat other teams in Antrim when the county is at a low ebb, that's it. Haven't made a mark in Ulster bar that penalty win last year. Cannot be compared in the same stratosphere as the St Galls team who went toe to toe with anyone and everyone.

I wish Cargin did win Ulster, i wish they improved our Countys standing, i wish they would throw off the shackles and have a real go in Ulster but fear age has caught up with their better players, the time for that was 5 or more years ago. Just because you win Antrim  when Antrim were at a low ebb does not guarantee all your players start for the County. Shivers can take a point but doesn't move....we  ALL need him to work on that to I prove our County's fare

Compared to the like of a Tomas McCann (who was an absolutely and utterly exceptional footballer for us and a certain starter) he doesn't compare. I'm disappointed he walked away but I appreciate he's young and it's balls not playing any football

The hyper sensitivity re the ex management is bizarre

Perhaps you will let us all know about your clubs Gold(en) years.....

And there's a bit more hyper sensitivity if evidence was needed.....the bad man said something I didn't like so I must have a dig at him about his club as it makes me feel better.

What club, such remains hidden from prying eyes....

Same up the 'Hill.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 12:13:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2023, 12:06:46 PM
I see aldergrove beat last night.

1st of the season
Tough division this year, only one going up too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 25, 2023, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 25, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 25, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 24, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

Absolutely they are busting to,  dying to see Antrim lose to say i told you so.

To call a spade a spade Cargin were extremely lucky to get anything out of the Naomh Conall game last year. They just about stayed in it and then got lucky with the goal and won on pens. They were TURGID against Glen. No shot from play in 1st half, set up not to get hammered. You could argue "we only got beat by" but to any of us we know it may as well ha e been 30points, it was a non event

They've beat other teams in Antrim when the county is at a low ebb, that's it. Haven't made a mark in Ulster bar that penalty win last year. Cannot be compared in the same stratosphere as the St Galls team who went toe to toe with anyone and everyone.

I wish Cargin did win Ulster, i wish they improved our Countys standing, i wish they would throw off the shackles and have a real go in Ulster but fear age has caught up with their better players, the time for that was 5 or more years ago. Just because you win Antrim  when Antrim were at a low ebb does not guarantee all your players start for the County. Shivers can take a point but doesn't move....we  ALL need him to work on that to I prove our County's fare

Compared to the like of a Tomas McCann (who was an absolutely and utterly exceptional footballer for us and a certain starter) he doesn't compare. I'm disappointed he walked away but I appreciate he's young and it's balls not playing any football

The hyper sensitivity re the ex management is bizarre

Perhaps you will let us all know about your clubs Gold(en) years.....

And there's a bit more hyper sensitivity if evidence was needed.....the bad man said something I didn't like so I must have a dig at him about his club as it makes me feel better.

What club, such remains hidden from prying eyes....

Same up the 'Hill.....

I think he's a Crossmaglen man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 25, 2023, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 25, 2023, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 25, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 25, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 24, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 24, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 24, 2023, 04:54:46 PM
Does anyone else get the distinct feeling that some posters  will be all over this discussion thread like a bad rash the minute Antrim get beaten. A couple of good recent wins just dosent suit their agenda.

Andy came onboard when this squad was in absolute rags and is doing a very solid job about rebuilding it. Personally I couldn't give one toss what club a player is from, when he is honoured to be invited into the squad, puts in the sheer hard work, and takes pride in the jersey strongly enough to be a valuable member of the squad,  we should support them.

Yes it's a discussion board and all about opinions...but try and stay classy.

I've had a pop at plenty of management teams and will be consistent in that regard if and when our current set up goes stale/dressing room becomes lost, but in the interests of balance let's be able to give genuine credit when it is deserved.

And CB, please note that the vast majority on here don't give a fiddlers toss about how many medals people have. If they are along the line they will only be judged on results and even more important in any coaches book, performances.

Absolutely they are busting to,  dying to see Antrim lose to say i told you so.

To call a spade a spade Cargin were extremely lucky to get anything out of the Naomh Conall game last year. They just about stayed in it and then got lucky with the goal and won on pens. They were TURGID against Glen. No shot from play in 1st half, set up not to get hammered. You could argue "we only got beat by" but to any of us we know it may as well ha e been 30points, it was a non event

They've beat other teams in Antrim when the county is at a low ebb, that's it. Haven't made a mark in Ulster bar that penalty win last year. Cannot be compared in the same stratosphere as the St Galls team who went toe to toe with anyone and everyone.

I wish Cargin did win Ulster, i wish they improved our Countys standing, i wish they would throw off the shackles and have a real go in Ulster but fear age has caught up with their better players, the time for that was 5 or more years ago. Just because you win Antrim  when Antrim were at a low ebb does not guarantee all your players start for the County. Shivers can take a point but doesn't move....we  ALL need him to work on that to I prove our County's fare

Compared to the like of a Tomas McCann (who was an absolutely and utterly exceptional footballer for us and a certain starter) he doesn't compare. I'm disappointed he walked away but I appreciate he's young and it's balls not playing any football

The hyper sensitivity re the ex management is bizarre

Perhaps you will let us all know about your clubs Gold(en) years.....

And there's a bit more hyper sensitivity if evidence was needed.....the bad man said something I didn't like so I must have a dig at him about his club as it makes me feel better.

What club, such remains hidden from prying eyes....

Same up the 'Hill.....

I think he's a Crossmaglen man

Hard to tell, same email address for more than a few posters....WUMs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 11:33:36 PM
Lads what's the story with Dunloy football
Now I know about all the hurling craic, fair enough, same year in year out
But 1 point in 11 games, from a team who only lost an intermediate final 3 years ago in the final minutes
20 point hammering tonight at home
AND, they're in senior championship this season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 26, 2023, 06:33:51 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 11:33:36 PM
Lads what's the story with Dunloy football
Now I know about all the hurling craic, fair enough, same year in year out
But 1 point in 11 games, from a team who only lost an intermediate final 3 years ago in the final minutes
20 point hammering tonight at home
AND, they're in senior championship this season

If they were intermediate they would be liable to win the thing ffs. Different side come championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 26, 2023, 07:26:05 AM
On the other hand Hoof what happened to your (MG) under 15s last night...I definitely didn't expect that either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on May 26, 2023, 08:29:03 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 11:33:36 PM
Lads what's the story with Dunloy football
Now I know about all the hurling craic, fair enough, same year in year out
But 1 point in 11 games, from a team who only lost an intermediate final 3 years ago in the final minutes
20 point hammering tonight at home
AND, they're in senior championship this season

Id say after winning it last year a lot of boys have thought thats them achieved everything they realistically can in football and gonna concentrate on hurling. Cant really blame them, I wouldn't be surprised to see them turn it on in Senior champ when they've everyone back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Dunloy are playing with a team of dual players a load of them are actually on the county hurling panel also, so missing out for the hurling team as well, top teams would suffer missing out on that quality player, Dunloy have also...

The modern dual club is finding things hard, the league will always suffer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 26, 2023, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Dunloy are playing with a team of dual players a load of them are actually on the county hurling panel also, so missing out for the hurling team as well, top teams would suffer missing out on that quality player, Dunloy have also...

The modern dual club is finding things hard, the league will always suffer

A successful dual club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on May 26, 2023, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 26, 2023, 07:26:05 AM
On the other hand Hoof what happened to your (MG) under 15s last night...I definitely didn't expect that either!

I would hazard a guess at exam time causing an issue so potentially they didn't field a full team.

I do know MG were considering asking for the game to be called off but  must have went ahead with what they had.

Really there should be no U15 fixtures on for these 2 or 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 26, 2023, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on May 25, 2023, 10:02:04 AM
long time lurker, was looking on county website there, is there no div 2 games this weekend?

After tonight's game it's the end of the regular first round, bar the 2 outstanding games involving Aldergrove
Once that's sorted the 6/6 split will happen

Div 2 split made.......but no fixtures as yet.....
Div one and Div 3 games.....scheduled on Sunday with the exception of Cargin v Casement's (Tuesday 7.30)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on May 26, 2023, 12:23:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 26, 2023, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 25, 2023, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on May 25, 2023, 10:02:04 AM
long time lurker, was looking on county website there, is there no div 2 games this weekend?

After tonight's game it's the end of the regular first round, bar the 2 outstanding games involving Aldergrove
Once that's sorted the 6/6 split will happen

Div 2 split made.......but no fixtures as yet.....
Div one and Div 3 games.....scheduled on Sunday with the exception of Cargin v Casement's (Tuesday 7.30)

Full round of Div 2 fixtures this Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 27, 2023, 06:00:56 PM
On the county scene all eyes are on Westmeath tomorrow but worth noting an emphatic win for u16 footballers today v Fermanagh, following some heavy defeats for our juvenile teams this season, tbh is was more encouraging.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 27, 2023, 07:54:48 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that all div 2 games are off tommo???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 27, 2023, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 27, 2023, 07:54:48 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that all div 2 games are off tommo???

Wouldn't rule it out as there are unfinished results involving Aldergrove v Sarsfields and Saint Paul's
As I said before I've no idea what this is about, but the Aldergrove/Sarsfields match would have a bearing on top/bottom 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 28, 2023, 09:43:31 AM
It wouldn't have a bearing. If Sarsfields were to win it they would go onto 12 points but would lose out on points difference. Goes on points difference between the 3 teams involving games of those 3 teams against each other. Sarsfields tried to refix it before the split though !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2023, 11:50:15 AM
That's not right... sarsfields have a significantly superior score difference to the team above them.

I am not sure what has happened with the games today but sarsfields Dunloy has a 0-0 result and I think sarsfields got the points so are on the same as gnm but too late. (I think they got the points anyway and not sure what it did with score difference)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on May 28, 2023, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2023, 11:50:15 AM
That's not right... sarsfields have a significantly superior score difference to the team above them.

I am not sure what has happened with the games today but sarsfields Dunloy has a 0-0 result and I think sarsfields got the points so are on the same as gnm but too late. (I think they got the points anyway and not sure what it did with score difference)

The rules for a three team tie have changed from score difference to  a  'mini- league' between the three teams.  Sarsfields were beaten by the two other teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2023, 12:03:50 PM
Ah... thanks.

I imagine if that result is up the rest will go ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 28, 2023, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2023, 11:50:15 AM
That's not right... sarsfields have a significantly superior score difference to the team above them.

I am not sure what has happened with the games today but sarsfields Dunloy has a 0-0 result and I think sarsfields got the points so are on the same as gnm but too late. (I think they got the points anyway and not sure what it did with score difference)

Have Dunloy gave up the ghost ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2023, 07:35:39 PM
No idea...

Great result for the ladies footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 29, 2023, 02:54:00 PM
Indeed. No mean achievement!

Some interesting results in yesterday's round 11 games. St Brigids beating LD at Hannaghstown, Randalstown fairly comfortable looking dispatch of St John's who had taken a big point from Toome a few days before, and a revitalised Creggan grabbing two good points at home to Aghagallon. Glenravel and Ballymena still the teams to beat in Div 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 04:09:35 PM
What does division 1 split to - 6 and 7 or 7 and 6?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 29, 2023, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 04:09:35 PM
What does division 1 split to - 6 and 7 or 7 and 6?

Top 6
Bottom 7

Bottom half be like a mini championship early on with teams trying to secure their status. Won't be much between 7th and 13th points wise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 29, 2023, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 04:09:35 PM
What does division 1 split to - 6 and 7 or 7 and 6?

Top 6
Bottom 7

Bottom half be like a mini championship early on with teams trying to secure their status. Won't be much between 7th and 13th points wise

Can be competitive and help before championships..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 06:23:24 PM
Cheers hoof. Tbh that's where the most interesting bit of division one is. Winning the league not that big a deal but promotion and relegation the interesting bit. Very little between any bottom half. Ahoghill and tnn definitely ahead of what a lot would probably expect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 29, 2023, 06:33:18 PM
Only 2 points between 7 and 13 at the minute, Creggan ahoghill result going to be critical now

Only 3 possibly 4 guaranteed top 6 at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 06:47:59 PM
St galls St John's looks like one of those games too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 29, 2023, 06:57:23 PM
Creggan and Ahoghill have played though with an Ahoghill win at the minute, but it's not finalised apparently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 07:40:07 PM
Was that not the "abandoned" one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2023, 08:09:19 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 29, 2023, 06:57:23 PM
Creggan and Ahoghill have played though with an Ahoghill win at the minute, but it's not finalised apparently

Only 'not finalised' because Kickham's have not exhausted the appeal process as yet....
Lost at Antrim now on to Ulster....

Am sure Ahoghill will have the points.....brings them to 12..

As  the end of league draws near Cargin, for the first occasion this term had a full squad at training this evening..

'The whiff of championship in the air?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2023, 08:48:14 PM
Win on Tuesday and it's level at the top...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 29, 2023, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2023, 08:48:14 PM
Win on Tuesday and it's level at the top...

Be close......a real test for our 'young guns'.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 30, 2023, 09:34:08 AM
In the antrim Leagues what takes preference? overall scoring diff or H2H
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 30, 2023, 10:06:54 AM
If 2 teams level on same points, overall scoring difference.

If more than 2 teams level on same points, then mini league scoring difference involving the teams level on points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 30, 2023, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on May 30, 2023, 09:34:08 AM
In the antrim Leagues what takes preference? overall scoring diff or H2H

2 Teams: Head to Head.
More than 2: The highest scoring differences. That is points scored minus points conceded in the games played between the teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 30, 2023, 10:52:42 AM
Not the case re head to head as single round league...that what the league regulations state. Unless that's changed !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 30, 2023, 11:15:03 AM
Ah, you referring to before the split in Div 1 and 2, but by year end they will be 2 rounds in all the Senior leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 30, 2023, 12:00:30 PM
The majority of the PG1 men have been on a players stag do and only got home late last night.

I expect Erin's Own to win this one handy enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2023, 12:19:12 PM
Long time since PG1 put it up to Cargin in Toome so really not sure if tonight will be any different. Huge stag weekend and unavailability of two players expecting to play on Sunday against Fermanagh (Dermot and Oisin) dosent help either, but that's what squads are for. I'll take being competitive as a good result, anything north of that would be a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 12:21:03 PM
Just keep the scoring down and get at least 10 points  ;D and keep 15 players on the pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2023, 12:36:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 30, 2023, 12:19:12 PM
Long time since PG1 put it up to Cargin in Toome so really not sure if tonight will be any different. Huge stag weekend and unavailability of two players expecting to play on Sunday against Fermanagh (Dermot and Oisin) dosent help either, but that's what squads are for. I'll take being competitive as a good result, anything north of that would be a bonus.
This is tragic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2023, 12:55:56 PM
Can county players not play? I seen st brigids brought theirs on at half time on Sunday? Its all very inconsistent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 30, 2023, 01:14:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 30, 2023, 12:19:12 PM
Long time since PG1 put it up to Cargin in Toome so really not sure if tonight will be any different. Huge stag weekend and unavailability of two players expecting to play on Sunday against Fermanagh (Dermot and Oisin) dosent help either, but that's what squads are for. I'll take being competitive as a good result, anything north of that would be a bonus.


We missing 14 players tonight through injury&county training commitments 😱
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 30, 2023, 01:20:24 PM
Was going to kill the evening and dander round to this but I don't know now with all this pessimism, eastenders could be a better call !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 30, 2023, 01:42:08 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on May 30, 2023, 01:17:51 PM
Certain players are putting 2 fingers up to McEntee by ignoring him and playing for club,and still get game time

well should the county not do something about this? maybe not scheduling league games atm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Leagues are playing, Championships are for winning...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 30, 2023, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Leagues are playing, Championships are for winning...
Let them play, il be surprised if Portglenone don't play their guys, they have taken the club league more seriously than anyone can't see that changing tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 30, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2023, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Leagues are playing, Championships are for winning...
Let them play, il be surprised if Portglenone don't play their guys, they have taken the club league more seriously than anyone can't see that changing tonight.

Cargin, having gotten this far utilising the talented squad will hardly change.....was Casement's who asked for the switch.
..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 30, 2023, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 30, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2023, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Leagues are playing, Championships are for winning...
Let them play, il be surprised if Portglenone don't play their guys, they have taken the club league more seriously than anyone can't see that changing tonight.

Cargin, having gotten this far utilising the talented squad will hardly change.....was Casement's who asked for the switch.
..


Hearing we have full squad to pick from county men and all playing 😊
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on May 30, 2023, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 30, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 30, 2023, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Leagues are playing, Championships are for winning...
Let them play, il be surprised if Portglenone don't play their guys, they have taken the club league more seriously than anyone can't see that changing tonight.

Cargin, having gotten this far utilising the talented squad will hardly change.....was Casement's who asked for the switch.
..

Is there any cargin fellas still representing the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 09:11:32 PM
Draw
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2023, 09:29:05 PM
Fair enough result, both teams missing a few. Would have taken a point before the game so can't complain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on May 30, 2023, 10:17:19 PM
Cargin missing more than a few Bannside ,surely it was more of a point lost with the position PG1 had at half time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 10:24:15 PM
Nothing won in May
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 30, 2023, 11:07:06 PM
Aye, we were out on our legs last ten, hard weekend caught up on some. Cargin were coming at us strongly at the finish.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 30, 2023, 11:17:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 30, 2023, 11:07:06 PM
Aye, we were out on our legs last ten, hard weekend caught up on some. Cargin were coming at us strongly at the finish.

Good contest BS best wishes to the young lad damaged his knee tonight for a speedy recover
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 07:20:10 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

One less now young Benen Kelly ...ACL joint at county training.......


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2023, 08:21:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 07:20:10 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

One less now young Benen Kelly ...ACL joint at county training.......

That's unfortunate

Training S&C at any level now is producing more and more injuries, the pace and strength given to an amateur sport is unreal

The worst injury back in my day was a sore leg, I thought a hamstring was a new sandwich
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on May 31, 2023, 09:31:34 AM
Speedy recovery to both Benen Kelly and Ryan Convery. Both class acts. It's easy to forget the level of sacrifice and commitment that our amateur players put in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 31, 2023, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.


Andy mcentee must see something
Three players up with him who haven't started a senior championship game yet for cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol

McCanns, Crozier, KOB?
The opinion of most would be that these boys best years are well behind them. You'll be closer to the action EOC so feel free to correct me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2023, 11:23:43 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol

McCanns, Crozier, KOB?
The opinion of most would be that these boys best years are well behind them. You'll be closer to the action EOC so feel free to correct me.

Their best years may be behind them but they'll start the championship games (if fit) and would be well ahead of the young inexperienced (albeit quality players) coming through, IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 31, 2023, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.


Andy mcentee must see something
Three players up with him who haven't started a senior championship game yet for cargin

Does that suggest quality or does it say something about McEntees judgement and love for big men?
Anyway, my point still stands. Very few Cargin players starting on the first 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol

McCanns, Crozier, KOB?
The opinion of most would be that these boys best years are well behind them. You'll be closer to the action EOC so feel free to correct me.
Says more about the quality lacking of other teams players that these lads can still win championships well into their 30s.
We have a nice mix of old and young which will be even more evident at the business end with likes of Conhiur Johnston, Conan Johnston, Eunan Quinn and Tom Shivers making the breakthrough to be first choice players. All top quality talent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:35:11 AM
Bannside will testify to the quality of Tom Shivers goal last night. On the Portglenone side the young full back Daniel was hugely impressive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 31, 2023, 11:37:55 AM
The older Cargin men still have some life in them. Kobo looked like a 21 year old in last years final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 31, 2023, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:35:11 AM
Bannside will testify to the quality of Tom Shivers goal last night. On the Portglenone side the young full back Daniel was hugely impressive

As a neutral I agree very much on both of these
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on May 31, 2023, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:35:11 AM
Bannside will testify to the quality of Tom Shivers goal last night. On the Portglenone side the young full back Daniel was hugely impressive


Two Quality players PG1 full back was very impressive

As for players getting older and past it' I wouldn't swap Justin crozier for any half back in the county right now he's flying.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on May 31, 2023, 12:57:19 PM
Going by SG report, the players Cargin were missing: mick, tomas, paul, gerard mccann, kobo, jamie gribbin, close, conor johnston, eunan quinn, sean oneill, benen kelly, cahir donnelly.

Maybe a few more ive missed. Unreal strength in depth.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on May 31, 2023, 01:55:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol

McCanns, Crozier, KOB?
The opinion of most would be that these boys best years are well behind them. You'll be closer to the action EOC so feel free to correct me.
Says more about the quality lacking of other teams players that these lads can still win championships well into their 30s.
We have a nice mix of old and young which will be even more evident at the business end with likes of Conhiur Johnston, Conan Johnston, Eunan Quinn and Tom Shivers making the breakthrough to be first choice players. All top quality talent

Fair enough EOC. Sounds like the quality is there but just hasnt come through yet? Would Cargin folk think they should have more starters on current Antrim team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on May 31, 2023, 02:19:18 PM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 01:55:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol

McCanns, Crozier, KOB?
The opinion of most would be that these boys best years are well behind them. You'll be closer to the action EOC so feel free to correct me.
Says more about the quality lacking of other teams players that these lads can still win championships well into their 30s.
We have a nice mix of old and young which will be even more evident at the business end with likes of Conhiur Johnston, Conan Johnston, Eunan Quinn and Tom Shivers making the breakthrough to be first choice players. All top quality talent

Fair enough EOC. Sounds like the quality is there but just hasnt come through yet? Would Cargin folk think they should have more starters on current Antrim team?
.
15 starters and first 5 subs.... scroll back a few pages... Half the current squad wouldn't get on good club team😁😁😁
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on May 31, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 31, 2023, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

We know the quality we have, don't need any starting county players to be told how good we are.

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.


Andy mcentee must see something
Three players up with him who haven't started a senior championship game yet for cargin

Does that suggest quality or does it say something about McEntees judgement and love for big men?
Anyway, my point still stands. Very few Cargin players starting on the first 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 31, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 31, 2023, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

We know the quality we have, don't need any starting county players to be told how good we are.

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.


Andy mcentee must see something
Three players up with him who haven't started a senior championship game yet for cargin

Does that suggest quality or does it say something about McEntees judgement and love for big men?
Anyway, my point still stands. Very few Cargin players starting on the first 15.

Hearing county sent one of our own youngsters home last night out for a long time.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 04:25:09 PM
Is ck a WUM......doesnt know anything but is more than negative in his comments on Cargin......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2023, 05:34:02 PM
Are you a WUM?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2023, 05:55:29 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 31, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 31, 2023, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

We know the quality we have, don't need any starting county players to be told how good we are.

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.


Andy mcentee must see something
Three players up with him who haven't started a senior championship game yet for cargin

Does that suggest quality or does it say something about McEntees judgement and love for big men?
Anyway, my point still stands. Very few Cargin players starting on the first 15.

Hearing county sent one of our own youngsters home last night out for a long time.........

Hmm, explain that? Lad was training, possibly ACL and you think the county did that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on May 31, 2023, 07:37:15 PM
Good podcast with Philly McMahon.  In and around the Dublin squad 2008, dropped 2009.  So he made a point of asking to mark any Dublin player in club games so he could make his mark. Got back in 2010 and the rest is history. Goes to show it can work out in the long run for young players frustrated at not going straight into a county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 31, 2023, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 31, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on May 31, 2023, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

We know the quality we have, don't need any starting county players to be told how good we are.

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.


Andy mcentee must see something
Three players up with him who haven't started a senior championship game yet for cargin

Does that suggest quality or does it say something about McEntees judgement and love for big men?
Anyway, my point still stands. Very few Cargin players starting on the first 15.

Hearing county sent one of our own youngsters home last night out for a long time.........


Who was that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on May 31, 2023, 10:42:44 PM
Did the "county" do something wrong? Let's blame the county for a player getting injured at training. Sincere condolences to Benen if the injury is as bad as originally thought, please God he can get back up on the horse as soon as possible.

But trying to pin the blame on the "county" - that's just cheap sensationalist nonsense most people here can see past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 01, 2023, 05:59:33 AM
WTF are you on........'guardian of the county' now.....wasn't always so.
Benen is a young man just learning his trade.....the blame is not apportioned to anyone but a serious injury not in the care of his club a butter pill to swallow...

Your concern....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2023, 07:18:36 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 01, 2023, 05:59:33 AM
WTF are you on........'guardian of the county' now.....wasn't always so.
Benen is a young man just learning his trade.....the blame is not apportioned to anyone but a serious injury not in the care of his club a butter pill to swallow...

Your concern....??

So getting injured at club an easier pill to swallow, getting injured at county training is a 'butter' pill to swallow? Gotcha...

The bitterness is dripping off you. Seems to me that you are using a young lad's injury to have a go at the county set up.

It's not your concern, you won't be picking up the pieces or putting the effort in rehab
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 01, 2023, 08:33:40 AM
Ryan Convery also waiting on swelling going down before an X ray which he/we are fearful of. Ryan's our joint captain and played at 6 for UUJ seniors this year in the Sigerson. Would be a huge loss to PG1 if the news is as feared. Happened in last 2 mins against Cargin on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 01, 2023, 08:56:24 AM
CB is winding all you boys up and you're biting everytime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 01, 2023, 09:17:20 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on May 31, 2023, 04:25:09 PM
Is ck a WUM......doesnt know anything but is more than negative in his comments on Cargin......

No WUM and no negative comments. Genuine questions. Negative comments are your department.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on June 01, 2023, 09:49:14 AM
Can someone please enlighten me as to what a 'WUM' is? Possibly showing my age here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 01, 2023, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: Caesar on June 01, 2023, 09:49:14 AM
Can someone please enlighten me as to what a 'WUM' is? Possibly showing my age here

A merchant of the winding up variety
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 01, 2023, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2023, 08:33:40 AM
Ryan Convery also waiting on swelling going down before an X ray which he/we are fearful of. Ryan's our joint captain and played at 6 for UUJ seniors this year in the Sigerson. Would be a huge loss to PG1 if the news is as feared. Happened in last 2 mins against Cargin on Tuesday night.


Hopefully the lad gets good news and isn't as bad as feared

Benen's injury could happen anywhere is right problem being we feel none of the three lads up with county squad should be there considering they haven't started one senior championship game for us yet but that's up to Andy it just seems like they suit his player profile type.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2023, 11:51:22 AM
Why is the Antrim game in Armagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 01, 2023, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2023, 11:51:22 AM
Why is the Antrim game in Armagh?

Tailteann group games are 1 home, 1 away, 1 neutral. Armagh a fair venue for both counties I think, though not a happy hunting ground for us this year - so far.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2023, 02:00:53 PM
It's an interesting game - wouldn't be surprised if we won but on the other hand wouldn't be surprised if we got beat by a bit! I hope we have learned from the league and if we can get Kelm marked a bit better we have a very good chance. Also someone taller on Quigley would help.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 01, 2023, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on June 01, 2023, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 01, 2023, 08:33:40 AM
Ryan Convery also waiting on swelling going down before an X ray which he/we are fearful of. Ryan's our joint captain and played at 6 for UUJ seniors this year in the Sigerson. Would be a huge loss to PG1 if the news is as feared. Happened in last 2 mins against Cargin on Tuesday night.


Hopefully the lad gets good news and isn't as bad as feared

Benen's injury could happen anywhere is right problem being we feel none of the three lads up with county squad should be there considering they haven't started one senior championship game for us yet but that's up to Andy it just seems like they suit his player profile type.

Very sorry to hear of a serious injury, maybe some of the younger lads would be better to pull back and have another year at club to develop as you say. But they are there of their own free will, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 02, 2023, 06:55:35 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 01, 2023, 08:56:24 AM
CB is winding all you boys up and you're biting everytime.

Like clockwork.......lol...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lucifer on June 02, 2023, 11:05:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2023, 02:00:53 PM
It's an interesting game - wouldn't be surprised if we won but on the other hand wouldn't be surprised if we got beat by a bit! I hope we have learned from the league and if we can get Kelm marked a bit better we have a very good chance. Also someone taller on Quigley would help.

I can't see us beating you by much, if we even do.  We are favourites with the bookies but really there is very little between the teams (as seen in that crazy league game) and I think your performances in the Tailteann so far have been more assured than ours.

Kelm will obviously need watching, though he has been quieter in last 2 games than most of league.  A good match up is important for him but, in all honesty, he'll beat most men 1 v 1 so it's as much about the collective defensive effort which is probably something both our sides lack at times!  With Quigley starting we've gone through him less, which in one sense helps spread the burden but I think he was also reveling as the main man.   Important to win for either side and get a weeks break plus a home quarter final (I presume.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 02, 2023, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 01, 2023, 02:00:53 PM
It's an interesting game - wouldn't be surprised if we won but on the other hand wouldn't be surprised if we got beat by a bit! I hope we have learned from the league and if we can get Kelm marked a bit better we have a very good chance. Also someone taller on Quigley would help.

Agree. This is a very interesting game. Fermanagh are Antrims level despite their opening draw with Wexford and I think the winner should have genuine ambitions in going far in the competition. You pick out Fermanaghs 2 key men IMO. Kelm has pace to burn and Quigley is a match winner even from the bench. Hoping to get to the game, should be a tight one, good luck Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 02, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
Gutted, just heard Ryan Convery got bad news, ACL joint gone. Massive  loss to PG1.

Agree, Sunday will tell a tale of where we are, two teams well matched, winner straight through to QF's, loser a game 7 days later in QF prelims.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2023, 11:20:06 AM
Antrim's team and set up has changed since the league meeting, the added bite of 'championship' and neutral ground should even things up but bookies don't get much wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on June 02, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Anyone know what way the KO stage is working, is it 1v3 and 2v2?
do we know what groups play what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 02, 2023, 11:37:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 02, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
Gutted, just heard Ryan Convery got bad news, ACL joint gone. Massive  loss to PG1.

Agree, Sunday will tell a tale of where we are, two teams well matched, winner straight through to QF's, loser a game 7 days later in QF prelims.

Jeez that is sad news from.PG1...Ryan is a huge prospect and hope is recovery is quick......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 02, 2023, 12:18:07 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on June 02, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Anyone know what way the KO stage is working, is it 1v3 and 2v2?
do we know what groups play what?

Group winners go straight to 1/4 finals and have home advantage.

Second in group will play 3rd in other groups - to be drawn - except one 2nd place team will play New York.

Winners of 2nd v 3rd/New York are then drawn against 1st place finishers. Not pre determined which group winners play which preliminary qf winners.

That's as I understand it. 


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2023, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 02, 2023, 11:37:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 02, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
Gutted, just heard Ryan Convery got bad news, ACL joint gone. Massive  loss to PG1.

Agree, Sunday will tell a tale of where we are, two teams well matched, winner straight through to QF's, loser a game 7 days later in QF prelims.

Jeez that is sad news from.PG1...Ryan is a huge prospect and hope is recovery is quick......

Its a pity he didnt get that injury at county training....  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 02, 2023, 02:00:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2023, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 02, 2023, 11:37:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 02, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
Gutted, just heard Ryan Convery got bad news, ACL joint gone. Massive  loss to PG1.

Agree, Sunday will tell a tale of where we are, two teams well matched, winner straight through to QF's, loser a game 7 days later in QF prelims.

Jeez that is sad news from.PG1...Ryan is a huge prospect and hope is recovery is quick......


Its a pity he didnt get that injury at county training....  ::)


@Caesar if you needed a description of a WUM, there you have it!! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2023, 11:28:20 AM
Neither of the twins are on today's match panel G&T, botj are being rested. Joseph has groin strain and Patrick has calf injury. Hopefully they'll be back for the next match, both going well and fully part of Andys plans going forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 04, 2023, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 04, 2023, 12:12:14 PM
Cheers Bs

Both Finnegans on the extended panel released on Firiay......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2023, 12:47:56 PM
Yes, they do still have a seat on the bus!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 12:52:02 PM
Ah BS, I'll take CB's info over yours ;)

I'll ask the lads during the week and fill you in ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 04, 2023, 04:40:52 PM
That's some win. 3 out of 3 in the group, can't complain about that. Well done lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 04, 2023, 04:43:11 PM
Brilliant. The McEntee critics will have to wait another while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 05:14:10 PM
Great win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 04, 2023, 05:54:27 PM
Super win today, no denying that. The two aghagallon men are dangerous forwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 04, 2023, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 04, 2023, 04:43:11 PM
Brilliant. The McEntee critics will have to wait another while.

Best manager in years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on June 04, 2023, 06:37:16 PM
Mcginley said big mccann wasnt even good enough for the squad last year? How many goals as he scored this year for Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 04, 2023, 06:41:23 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on June 04, 2023, 06:37:16 PM
Mcginley said big mccann wasnt even good enough for the squad last year? How many goals as he scored this year for Antrim?

But McGinley's got all Ireland medals so he's not allowed to be criticised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 06:48:40 PM
How many has he thought right enough? I am sure he mustn't be a kick in the arse away from double figures between league and championship. Four in championship and how many in league?

(Edit) at a guess seven or eight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on June 04, 2023, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 06:48:40 PM
How many has he thought right enough? I am sure he mustn't be a kick in the arse away from double figures between league and championship. Four in championship and how many in league?

(Edit) at a guess seven or eight?
In contention for the 2023 Golden Boot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2023, 07:06:04 PM
Brilliant result, well done lads, momentum gathering. Hands up...I didn't make it to Armagh. Had ticket bought, but felt it was only right to attend the funeral of our main club sponsor and absolute gentleman of the highest order, Paddy Fullan, a huge Cargin supporter, who tragically passed away at an early age on Thursday past. May his big beautiful gentle soul be at rest..


Had faith in Andy and our footballers to deliver as they continue to restore some much needed pride. Upwards and onwards we go....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2023, 07:22:10 PM
Heard Conchur Johnston coming on changed things, him and Oisin Doherty will make plenty of runs and show for every ball. Also heard from a few sources that Cormac McGettigan and Cathal Hynds did well too, shows you about having the stickability to hang around until your opportunity comes. Andy will be having selection headaches of the right kind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 07:50:28 PM
Can you imagine how much we'd have won by had we our best players available? 80 point win at the very least ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 04, 2023, 07:54:21 PM
Just back from Armagh. A good performance and brilliant result. The jury may well have been out but they've returned and its huge approval to Andy McEntee. There's now no doubt about the progress from this time last year!
Antrim can win this competition and what a result that would be! Well done all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 04, 2023, 09:58:42 PM
Without a doubt CK. Sad to think there are some amongst us who seriously want this to fail. A few boys will be quiet for another few weeks at least.

Several probable starting players not considered for selection I believe because they broke ground rules and played with clubs. Well handled with diplomacy and every player knows without doubt what they are signing up to. No exceptions...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 04, 2023, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 07:50:28 PM
Can you imagine how much we'd have won by had we our best players available? 80 point win at the very least ;D

But barring injuries, this is the best team available. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 04, 2023, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 04, 2023, 09:58:42 PM
Without a doubt CK. Sad to think there are some amongst us who seriously want this to fail. A few boys will be quiet for another few weeks at least.

Several probable starting players not considered for selection I believe because they broke ground rules and played with clubs. Well handled with diplomacy and every player knows without doubt what they are signing up to. No exceptions...

Completely agree BS, a lot of people in previous years played to their own rules, have to give mcEntee this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FrMaginn on June 05, 2023, 12:39:32 AM
SV will be AWOL for another 2 weeks!
They've now moved onto bashing referees since Andy is winning games...any desperate attempt for content to appease all these 'supposed' patreons
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 05, 2023, 10:29:57 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 04, 2023, 09:58:42 PM
Without a doubt CK. Sad to think there are some amongst us who seriously want this to fail. A few boys will be quiet for another few weeks at least.

Several probable starting players not considered for selection I believe because they broke ground rules and played with clubs. Well handled with diplomacy and every player knows without doubt what they are signing up to. No exceptions...

proper order. cant be one rule for one and one for another. they had their club window and should respect managemnets decisions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 05, 2023, 12:16:44 PM
Yes indeed. I noticed some county players playing for clubs and others not its good that Andy is drawing a line.
Neither of the Finnegans were in the 26 yesterday, I can only assume they fell foul of above rule?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 05, 2023, 12:21:41 PM
Although lynch came on and has been playing both club football and hurling so that isnt consistent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2023, 01:25:27 PM
What has been the guidelines for this before everyone starts assuming?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2023, 02:00:39 PM
Guidelines would have to be whatever agreement exists between management and players. There should be no grey areas. The players would know what they're signing up to, full commitment to county until the season is over, and availability to play for club by permission from management on a case by case basis. The clubs get players back for second half of league and the full championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2023, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 05, 2023, 02:00:39 PM
Guidelines would have to be whatever agreement exists between management and players. There should be no grey areas. The players would know what they're signing up to, full commitment to county until the season is over, and availability to play for club by permission from management on a case by case basis. The clubs get players back for second half of league and the full championship.

The grey areas are the bits we don't know so a lot of assuming and so on which can't help with gossiping lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 02:56:34 PM
There are boys who haven't got game time not playing for clubs but Lynch gets gametime and plays with his club is the thing which stands out... If he didn't then it wouldn't look like any grey areas... Just seems a bit odd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2023, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 02:56:34 PM
There are boys who haven't got game time not playing for clubs but Lynch gets gametime and plays with his club is the thing which stands out... If he didn't then it wouldn't look like any grey areas... Just seems a bit odd.

Could it be that if you are not starting then the rule is you can play for your club and if you are starting then you can't play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 03:57:42 PM
No -  there are definitely subs getting no game time not playing at all for their clubs.

Tbh I dunno but it's working so I don't want to knock it too much. There must be some reason for Lynch but who knows what it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 05, 2023, 04:07:07 PM
Quote from: ck on June 05, 2023, 12:16:44 PM
Yes indeed. I noticed some county players playing for clubs and others not its good that Andy is drawing a line.
Neither of the Finnegans were in the 26 yesterday, I can only assume they fell foul of above rule?

Neither Joe nor Patrick have played any club football this season, both carrying injuries atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 05, 2023, 04:39:26 PM
Cheers for clarification BrendanA.
The rule imposed by Andy seems fairly unclear then but hopefully its clear among the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 05, 2023, 04:45:50 PM
Sorry - got that wrong, they played 2 league games following ulster c'ship loss when all players were released to clubs, but not since 26th April.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on June 05, 2023, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 03:57:42 PM
No -  there are definitely subs getting no game time not playing at all for their clubs.

Tbh I dunno but it's working so I don't want to knock it too much. There must be some reason for Lynch but who knows what it is.

Don't know the ins and outs or the inner workings but whatever medicine had to be given looked to be accepted by those who had to take it and the other squad members  must have been happy with it as well.

That was as hard working.  committed and disciplined display as Antrim football has produced in many years.

Yes there were  mistakes, some poor execution, might not have been the best 15 players in Antrim on display but AMcE would have gone down the road knowing he got a performance and is gradually getting the building blocks in place.

As mentioned in the SG report there was every opportunity to throw in the towel... Shakey start, hit for 1.3 at the start or second half to go 4 down, already qualified, blistering hot day.... They didn't. Stuck to the task, kept the shape, kept the discipline.

This was typified by a 2-3 minute arm wrestle around the middle of the first half. Fermanagh had possession probed left and right for a good 2_3 minutes trying to stretch and break the defence. Typically Antrim wouldn't hold their Shape and discipline, someone would go for a big hit, a lunge, someone would step out of sync. They didn't got the turnover quick transition. Al point @ the other end.

They might struggle with some of the stronger harder running teams further down the line but there was a bit of a statement made.   

Hard work and discipline is a prerequisite. Being selfless and giving to the guy in the best position. This will allow the talent to flourish CJ's first touch an assist for ALs goal. Only for a slight miss control his 2nd touch was more than likely going to end up in someone hitting the net as well. OD's first touch hitting the net although a miss hit. His 2nd or 3rd an assist for RMcC goal.

Small steps but you can see that there is clear buy in and work being put in. Just need to keep making the small steps and build confidence and belief.

Plenty to work on but the age profile of the finishing 15 should give scope for improvement over the next few years



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 05, 2023, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 03:57:42 PM
No -  there are definitely subs getting no game time not playing at all for their clubs.

Tbh I dunno but it's working so I don't want to knock it too much. There must be some reason for Lynch but who knows what it is.

The player we have on the panel has played less than 30 mins the whole season and still isn't allowed to play for his club.

It is crazy and also annoying when you see others who get more county game time also playing for their club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on June 06, 2023, 08:22:20 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 04, 2023, 06:41:23 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on June 04, 2023, 06:37:16 PM
Mcginley said big mccann wasnt even good enough for the squad last year? How many goals as he scored this year for Antrim?

But McGinley's got all Ireland medals so he's not allowed to be criticised.

Completely daft decision that was credit to him for his performances this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on June 06, 2023, 09:08:28 AM
I said after the first two games nothing special beating two div 4 teams, but that result at the weekend is a fantastic result.
Guaranteed home QF draw, never know what could happen, but no one will want to play Antrim at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on June 06, 2023, 10:52:42 PM
I see on Instagram the SV lads have decided to pull the plug on the Spotify you now must pay for the privilege of listening to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2023, 10:58:56 PM
Thought their wallets were bulging  ;D

Is there a link I can sign up too?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:28:27 AM
Last round of games, will be a few intense games I'd imagine, a lot at stake with the difference between a top 6 bottom 7 finish crucial
Bottom 7 going to be cut throat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 07, 2023, 11:12:46 AM
Massive!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 07, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
Surely the Ahoghill v creggan issue needed to be sorted before the league split.

If Ahoghill had been awarded the points they would be top 6 currently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 07, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
Surely the Ahoghill v creggan issue needed to be sorted before the league split.

If Ahoghill had been awarded the points they would be top 6 currently.

Are there any teams that are defo out of contention for top 6?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 07, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
Surely the Ahoghill v creggan issue needed to be sorted before the league split.

If Ahoghill had been awarded the points they would be top 6 currently.

Are there any teams that are defo out of contention for top 6?

Mathematically probably not, realistically the 4 teams.on 8 points  won't make it due to negative score difference

Moneyglass, even with a win tonight to take them to 12, will still need other results to go their way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on June 07, 2023, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 07, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
Surely the Ahoghill v creggan issue needed to be sorted before the league split.

If Ahoghill had been awarded the points they would be top 6 currently.

Are there any teams that are defo out of contention for top 6?

Mathematically probably not, realistically the 4 teams.on 8 points  won't make it due to negative score difference

Moneyglass, even with a win tonight to take them to 12, will still need other results to go their way

Is it not the same as the hurling though, the tie breaker will be the games amongst the teams involved, and the score difference in those games ? Ballycastle made the top half with a minus points difference overall, with Portaferry having a positive points difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 07, 2023, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 07, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
Surely the Ahoghill v creggan issue needed to be sorted before the league split.

If Ahoghill had been awarded the points they would be top 6 currently.

Are there any teams that are defo out of contention for top 6?

Mathematically probably not, realistically the 4 teams.on 8 points  won't make it due to negative score difference

Moneyglass, even with a win tonight to take them to 12, will still need other results to go their way

Is it not the same as the hurling though, the tie breaker will be the games amongst the teams involved, and the score difference in those games ? Ballycastle made the top half with a minus points difference overall, with Portaferry having a positive points difference.

Ye could be right
Not even trying to work out all those permeations, computer can sort that and we'll see in the morning !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 07, 2023, 01:46:08 PM
Most competitive Div 1 league in memory, everyone of the top half has lost games to teams around the bottom. Tonight we (top) play Randalstown (bottom) and there's genuinely no guarantees about the outcome.

With two clubs facing the drop this makes for a really interesting few months, every game in bottom seven will be like a mini championship match...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 02:13:52 PM
Championship starts tonight!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 07, 2023, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 07, 2023, 01:46:08 PM
Most competitive Div 1 league in memory, everyone of the top half has lost games to teams around the bottom. Tonight we (top) play Randalstown (bottom) and there's genuinely no guarantees about the outcome.

With two clubs facing the drop this makes for a really interesting few months, every game in bottom seven will be like a mini championship match...

Is still hard to tell who's going to shape up for championship though! The league has been played mostly without county players!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 03:18:08 PM
huge game in division 2 also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 03:18:08 PM
huge game in division 2 also

Like a championship final that one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 03:47:33 PM
Glenravel win leaves level points but draw in 1st game edges the head to head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 04:06:02 PM
How many county boys do Ballymena have? Stewart? Where's McAleer at these days?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 07, 2023, 04:17:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 04:06:02 PM
How many county boys do Ballymena have? Stewart? Where's McAleer at these days?

Injured
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 04:21:15 PM
He's a good one so pity for them.

Division one is tight - some very interesting games there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 07:41:10 PM
Ht Rossa one up and at johns one up. Creggan currently four up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 08:31:48 PM
Big win for Creggan. Rossa ld draw and St John's beat st galls by one. St Brigids and st galls definitely bottom half then it looks like.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 08:31:48 PM
Big win for Creggan. Rossa ld draw and St John's beat st galls by one. St Brigids and st galls definitely bottom half then it looks like.

With Ahoghill winning tonight.....they enjoy 4th in the table with 2 points to be added (via Creggan)...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 09:43:27 PM
That's a good win for them. Moneyglass won but I think that is maybe them out of top positions with Cregagh winning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 08:31:48 PM
Big win for Creggan. Rossa ld draw and St John's beat st galls by one. St Brigids and st galls definitely bottom half then it looks like.

With Ahoghill winning tonight.....they enjoy 4th in the table with 2 points to be added (via Creggan)...

The Clooney boys are a remarkable club.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 09:57:48 PM
Yeah fair play to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 07, 2023, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 08:31:48 PM
Big win for Creggan. Rossa ld draw and St John's beat st galls by one. St Brigids and st galls definitely bottom half then it looks like.

With Ahoghill winning tonight.....they enjoy 4th in the table with 2 points to be added (via Creggan)...

The Clooney boys are a remarkable club.....

They really are! A proper GAA club, heart and soul of the community. Everyone putting shoulder to the wheel and they get results when it counts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 07, 2023, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: ck on June 07, 2023, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 07, 2023, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 08:31:48 PM
Big win for Creggan. Rossa ld draw and St John's beat st galls by one. St Brigids and st galls definitely bottom half then it looks like.

With Ahoghill winning tonight.....they enjoy 4th in the table with 2 points to be added (via Creggan)...

The Clooney boys are a remarkable club.....

They really are! A proper GAA club, heart and soul of the community. Everyone putting shoulder to the wheel and they get results when it counts.

Yeah, aren't they a duel club?

Not sure if they hurl underage although I think there's a new underage club in the Moneyglass area now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 10:30:13 PM
They have been there or thereabouts in intermediate hurling for a good few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 07, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
Is it 2 straight down from div 1? Or play off?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: geezer on June 07, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
Is it 2 straight down from div 1? Or play off?

2 down, until they see who it is, then the goalposts might be moved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: geezer on June 07, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
Is it 2 straight down from div 1? Or play off?

2 down, until they see who it is, then the goalposts might be moved.

They'll not us down, last time that happened we ended up winning Ulsters and all Irelands  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: geezer on June 07, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
Is it 2 straight down from div 1? Or play off?

2 down, until they see who it is, then the goalposts might be moved.

They'll not us down, last time that happened we ended up winning Ulsters and all Irelands  ;D

All ireland,  singular
7s don't count !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on June 07, 2023, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 10:30:13 PM
They have been there or thereabouts in intermediate hurling for a good few years.

Won the Intermediate Championship last year against Cushendun.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: geezer on June 07, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
Is it 2 straight down from div 1? Or play off?

2 down, until they see who it is, then the goalposts might be moved.

They'll not us down, last time that happened we ended up winning Ulsters and all Irelands  ;D

All ireland,  singular
7s don't count !!

They do ;D

Beating Bellaghy in Ulster was the sweetest  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2023, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 07, 2023, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: geezer on June 07, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
Is it 2 straight down from div 1? Or play off?

2 down, until they see who it is, then the goalposts might be moved.

They'll not us down, last time that happened we ended up winning Ulsters and all Irelands  ;D

All ireland,  singular
7s don't count !!

They do ;D

Beating Bellaghy in Ulster was the sweetest  8)

Right, I think its bedtime  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 08, 2023, 12:02:30 AM
See Lavey had county men playing...again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 08, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
Interesting league so far, no one would deny. Winners obviously Portglenone will be happy and Creggan for coming back strong after a poor period. Ahoghill as well. Losers defininitely St Brigids and St Endas won't be happy where they are at.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2023, 08:39:54 AM
St Enda's don't seem to have the depth without county men but with them they'd be a lot stronger. St Brigid's no doubt will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on June 08, 2023, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 08, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
Interesting league so far, no one would deny. Winners obviously Portglenone will be happy and Creggan for coming back strong after a poor period. Ahoghill as well. Losers defininitely St Brigids and St Endas won't be happy where they are at.
Aghagallon did well coming second also without 2  of Antrims key forwards, though losing last 3 will be concerning.  Good to see Loughran kick on he was fresher of the year at UCD or DCU but didn't seem be flavour of the month with previous Antrim managers. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 08, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 07, 2023, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 03:18:08 PM
huge game in division 2 also
went to the first game with these 2,60 mins I won't get back,super coach Baker has everyman behind the ball,brutal stuff,might be good enough to win div 2,but won't be any good going to div 1,as proved last year in the play off, we've your lot HH tonight, definitely need a win,been poor since we beat Cargin

Shocking game to watch. Glenravel are a good well drilled side!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 08, 2023, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: statto on June 08, 2023, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 08, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
Interesting league so far, no one would deny. Winners obviously Portglenone will be happy and Creggan for coming back strong after a poor period. Ahoghill as well. Losers defininitely St Brigids and St Endas won't be happy where they are at.
Aghagallon did well coming second also without 2  of Antrims key forwards, though losing last 3 will be concerning.  Good to see Loughran kick on he was fresher of the year at UCD or DCU but didn't seem be flavour of the month with previous Antrim managers.
Yes Aghagallon also be pleased enough so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2023, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 08, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 07, 2023, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 03:18:08 PM
huge game in division 2 also
went to the first game with these 2,60 mins I won't get back,super coach Baker has everyman behind the ball,brutal stuff,might be good enough to win div 2,but won't be any good going to div 1,as proved last year in the play off, we've your lot HH tonight, definitely need a win,been poor since we beat Cargin

Shocking game to watch. Glenravel are a good well drilled side!

The first game or the second game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 08, 2023, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 08, 2023, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: statto on June 08, 2023, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 08, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
Interesting league so far, no one would deny. Winners obviously Portglenone will be happy and Creggan for coming back strong after a poor period. Ahoghill as well. Losers defininitely St Brigids and St Endas won't be happy where they are at.
Aghagallon did well coming second also without 2  of Antrims key forwards, though losing last 3 will be concerning.  Good to see Loughran kick on he was fresher of the year at UCD or DCU but didn't seem be flavour of the month with previous Antrim managers.
Yes Aghagallon also be pleased enough so far

Kicking ourselves to let a few games go as well! 9 points up and 15 to go last night and end up bate by a point!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 08, 2023, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 08, 2023, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 08, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 07, 2023, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 03:18:08 PM
huge game in division 2 also
went to the first game with these 2,60 mins I won't get back,super coach Baker has everyman behind the ball,brutal stuff,might be good enough to win div 2,but won't be any good going to div 1,as proved last year in the play off, we've your lot HH tonight, definitely need a win,been poor since we beat Cargin

Shocking game to watch. Glenravel are a good well drilled side!

The first game or the second game?

Second. 2nd half was awful
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
Fair play to Ahoghill.

Still 5 or 6 games left to sort out Div 1, long way to go the way everyone is picking up or dropping points. No one unbeatable, not much between a cluster of clubs who will give themselves at least a punchers chance in the forthcoming championships.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on June 08, 2023, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 08, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
Fair play to Ahoghill.

Still 5 or 6 games left to sort out Div 1, long way to go the way everyone is picking up or dropping points. No one unbeatable, not much between a cluster of clubs who will give themselves at least a punchers chance in the forthcoming championships.

Very true, fair play to our young lads who have played the league for us they have stood up, for Cargin to be where they are and the injuries they have is serious going.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 08, 2023, 04:19:23 PM
Think we are finally starting to get warm up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on June 08, 2023, 05:42:45 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 08, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
Fair play to Ahoghill.

Still 5 or 6 games left to sort out Div 1, long way to go the way everyone is picking up or dropping points. No one unbeatable, not much between a cluster of clubs who will give themselves at least a punchers chance in the forthcoming championships.

They do remarkably well in both codes for a small so credit where it is due.
In previous years they have been staving off relegation.

aghagllon did everything but win the game- should have won comfy but went asleep at the wheel the last 5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 08, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
Hearing plenty of county players played last night and plenty didnt. Andys rules remain fairly vague. I can only assume they all got permission to play. My own view is if a lad is not starting or coming on for Antrim then he should be released back to his club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 08, 2023, 07:32:08 PM
I think it makes a lot of sense for lads on the county panel but seeing little action in the county jersey to be getting minutes at their clubs.

And that is as much from a county angle as anything.  Otherwise could be throwing lads into an All Ireland quarter final game having played less than 20 mins football in a month or two.

I have no idea what the arrangements are but from what I see it looks like the lads starting for the county are not involved in club games.

We are at a stage of the season, with county progressing on, where there needs to be some common sense around scheduling of club games in order to keep some balance across the piece.

Of course it could be argued that some clubs have been handicapped already but we are now at the business end of leagues and all to play for and all getting into sharp focus, particularly around relegation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2023, 07:52:02 PM
Thee were at least five subs playing for various clubs which is good to see. It will sharpen them up if nothing else plus there were some big games last night and a bit harsh to see them miss those games if they're on the bench.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2023, 09:20:22 PM
Looks like a fairly straightforward arrangement.  If you started on Sunday you didn't play for your club last night. If you played a half on Sunday you could play a half, and if you didn't play at all or got less than 10 mins you can play away.

Put it this way...If Andy asked a player not to strip out for his club then it's likely he has plans for that player on Sunday week.

Not exactly..but something along those lines. At least the players know themselves what the ground rules are. A common sense approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2023, 09:21:14 PM
Well it's worked up to now with impressive victories for the county, every county in the country loses players due to the commitment required for playing inter county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 08, 2023, 09:26:07 PM
We are one game away from a semi final in Croke Park. Everyone needs to get behind this now, it's the very least the players deserve for the proper shift they're putting in behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2023, 10:14:25 PM
Breathe when posting please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 09, 2023, 10:09:48 AM
Antrim are 8/1 according to Oddschecker.
https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tailteann-cup/winner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 09, 2023, 10:56:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 08, 2023, 09:20:22 PM
Looks like a fairly straightforward arrangement.  If you started on Sunday you didn't play for your club last night. If you played a half on Sunday you could play a half, and if you didn't play at all or got less than 10 mins you can play away.

Put it this way...If Andy asked a player not to strip out for his club then it's likely he has plans for that player on Sunday week.

Not exactly..but something along those lines. At least the players know themselves what the ground rules are. A common sense approach.

Fair point. I'm sure the rule is clear behind the scenes and good to see lads not featuring getting to play with their clubs.
Antrim are in a really good position now to push on in Tailteann Cup with a home Qtr final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Anybody any idea when phase two of the div one league starts...?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Anybody any idea when phase two of the div one league starts...?

Next sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2023, 08:27:19 PM
Why have creggan ahoghill played one less game than rest?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 08:51:39 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 11, 2023, 08:27:19 PM
Why have creggan ahoghill played one less game than rest?
[/quote

Their game was played several weeks back and terminated early with Ahoghill awarded the points..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Anybody any idea when phase two of the div one league starts...?

Next sunday

Asked league sec for fixtures to preview (S G).....No reply...

State secret......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 07:30:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Anybody any idea when phase two of the div one league starts...?

Next sunday

Asked league sec for fixtures to preview (S G).....No reply...

State secret......

There is an appeal in from Creggan which hasn't been finalised yet, therefore fixtures can't be finalised
Its either Creggan or Moneyglass which take the 6th position

More than likely will be Creggan and Moneyglass are planning for that scenario
All will be sorted this week, patience is a virtue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 12, 2023, 07:49:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 07:30:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Anybody any idea when phase two of the div one league starts...?

Next sunday

Asked league sec for fixtures to preview (S G).....No reply...

State secret......

There is an appeal in from Creggan which hasn't been finalised yet, therefore fixtures can't be finalised
Its either Creggan or Moneyglass which take the 6th position

More than likely will be Creggan and Moneyglass are planning for that scenario
All will be sorted this week, patience is a virtue

Decision due this evening !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:39:39 AM
Carlow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2023, 08:41:33 AM
Hard to know what to make of that. Probably as good a draw as we could get.

I think avoiding Down is probably a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:44:39 AM
They have improved lately so no gimmie
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 12, 2023, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:44:39 AM
They have improved lately so no gimmie

No gimmie is correct but it's the best draw that Antrim could have got. I thought Carlow looked very shabby at times V New York. It's a winnable game and a Tailteann semi final would be a very good place to be. I predict 4 home wins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 07:49:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 07:30:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 11, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Anybody any idea when phase two of the div one league starts...?

Next sunday

Asked league sec for fixtures to preview (S G).....No reply...

State secret......

There is an appeal in from Creggan which hasn't been finalised yet, therefore fixtures can't be finalised
Its either Creggan or Moneyglass which take the 6th position

More than likely will be Creggan and Moneyglass are planning for that scenario
All will be sorted this week, patience is a virtue

Decision due this evening !

Decision must be sorted as all post split fixtures are up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on June 12, 2023, 01:44:34 PM
Do we think the county might postpone league games with the county going well and to give some teams a fair shot at staying up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 12, 2023, 03:14:02 PM
Re Carlow, its the draw we would have chosen I think. Home to a Div 4 team that we we know we can beat, as long as complacency doesn't creep in. Plus with Cavan playing Down one of those two will be gone before semi final stage; hopefully we get that far then its a step up, a good step up for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 12, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
At this stage is everyone in agreement that McEntee has done a good job?? Or are there still a few out there waiting for Antrim to get bate and then say he's useless?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on June 12, 2023, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 12, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
At this stage is everyone in agreement that McEntee has done a good job?? Or are there still a few out there waiting for Antrim to get bate and then say he's useless?
given the aghagallon lads a run in the team has fairly helped jim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 12, 2023, 04:01:04 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 12, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
At this stage is everyone in agreement that McEntee has done a good job?? Or are there still a few out there waiting for Antrim to get bate and then say he's useless?

Regardless of how the Carlow game goes I think he has done a good job. The Fermanagh win secured that for me. I think the progress is all the more remarkable as some of the players he selected in earlier rounds (particularly the Armagh game) are not up to it in my view. I think he picked a much stronger team for the Fermanagh match and I think they'll beat Carlow comfortably.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on June 12, 2023, 01:44:34 PM
Do we think the county might postpone league games with the county going well and to give some teams a fair shot at staying up?

Especially this Sunday as the county match is fixed for 1.00
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 12, 2023, 04:26:44 PM
Antrim v Carlow 1pm

Aghagallon v Cargin 2pm

Where else would you get it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2023, 04:31:43 PM
You would assume the fixtures will be changed...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 12, 2023, 04:42:14 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on June 12, 2023, 04:26:44 PM
Antrim v Carlow 1pm

Aghagallon v Cargin 2pm

Where else would you get it

The Carlow future has just been set, by Croke Park, presumably on Sunday due to Carlow having a hurling prelim q/f on Saturday. You have to imagine the round of club fixtures, including u17, will be moved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 12, 2023, 04:42:14 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on June 12, 2023, 04:26:44 PM
Antrim v Carlow 1pm

Aghagallon v Cargin 2pm

Where else would you get it

The Carlow future has just been set, by Croke Park, presumably on Sunday due to Carlow having a hurling prelim q/f on Saturday. You have to imagine the round of club fixtures, including u17, will be moved.

Aye don't think antrim can be blamed this time, although some still like to get a dig in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 07:17:07 PM
Sure that would suit Cargin given they've no Antrim starters  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 12, 2023, 07:32:47 PM
County game early in the day.  Plenty of time left in Sunday for club fixtures to be played.  Back in the day Sunday evening was a regular slot for games.  Might even be a bit kinder to the players if cools off any by the evening - though no complaining from me if it does not😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 07:41:02 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 12, 2023, 07:32:47 PM
County game early in the day.  Plenty of time left in Sunday for club fixtures to be played.  Back in the day Sunday evening was a regular slot for games.  Might even be a bit kinder to the players if cools off any by the evening - though no complaining from me if it does not😀

I reckon they'll all move to 6pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:04:33 PM
I'd prefer 11 start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 12, 2023, 08:23:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 07:17:07 PM
Sure that would suit Cargin given they've no Antrim starters  ;)

Jeez when you spot the return to duty of long term injured to the green and tell all those youngsters to go away.........???

League was always a priority......make it 14.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:38:06 PM
U17's changed to 10.30am
Seniors at 6pm ( or alternative time if agreed)
A few Div 1 clubs threatened with relegation tried to save themselves by cancelling relegation! Not even a mention of Div 2 or 3 clubs.! Proposal dismissed as out of order.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 12, 2023, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:39:39 AM
Carlow!

There won't be a big rush to swap jerseys on Sunday, hard to get a jersey so wrong like the Carlow footballers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2023, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:39:39 AM
Carlow!

There won't be a big rush to swap jerseys on Sunday, hard to get a jersey so wrong like the Carlow footballers

I think the red shorts dont help
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:55:31 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 12, 2023, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2023, 08:39:39 AM
Carlow!

There won't be a big rush to swap jerseys on Sunday, hard to get a jersey so wrong like the Carlow footballers

Wexford home wouldn't be great either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.

Don't rule out something like this happening
It happened at the 11th hour in derry last year
As I said before, depends on who ends up in the bottom 2 !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on June 13, 2023, 08:41:12 AM
Do all kids need a juvenile ticket for Sunday? Or are young kids still free? Thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 13, 2023, 08:51:53 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on June 13, 2023, 08:41:12 AM
Do all kids need a juvenile ticket for Sunday? Or are young kids still free? Thanks

No kids aren't free  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.

Don't rule out something like this happening
It happened at the 11th hour in derry last year
As I said before, depends on who ends up in the bottom 2 !!

Yeah if the Johnnies are in the bottom two can see this happen ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.

Don't rule out something like this happening
It happened at the 11th hour in derry last year
As I said before, depends on who ends up in the bottom 2 !!

Yeah if the Johnnies are in the bottom two can see this happen ;D

Or St.Galls god forbid  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 13, 2023, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: statto on June 12, 2023, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 12, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
At this stage is everyone in agreement that McEntee has done a good job?? Or are there still a few out there waiting for Antrim to get bate and then say he's useless?
given the aghagallon lads a run in the team has fairly helped jim

It is a pity he couldn't get Eunan Walsh back into the fold as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2023, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.

Don't rule out something like this happening
It happened at the 11th hour in derry last year
As I said before, depends on who ends up in the bottom 2 !!

Yeah if the Johnnies are in the bottom two can see this happen ;D

Or St.Galls god forbid  ::)

Going down did us no harm in the past so whatever happens happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 11:46:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2023, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.

Don't rule out something like this happening
It happened at the 11th hour in derry last year
As I said before, depends on who ends up in the bottom 2 !!

Yeah if the Johnnies are in the bottom two can see this happen ;D

Or St.Galls god forbid  ::)

Going down did us no harm in the past so whatever happens happens.
very hard to get up from div 2 MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 13, 2023, 11:48:10 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on June 13, 2023, 08:41:12 AM
Do all kids need a juvenile ticket for Sunday? Or are young kids still free? Thanks
Tickets are on sale via https://am.ticketmaster.com/gaa/

Pricing is €20 adults,
€15 Stu/Oap and
€5 Juvenile.
Tickets are General admission.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 13, 2023, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 13, 2023, 11:48:10 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on June 13, 2023, 08:41:12 AM
Do all kids need a juvenile ticket for Sunday? Or are young kids still free? Thanks
Tickets are on sale via https://am.ticketmaster.com/gaa/

Pricing is €20 adults,
€15 Stu/Oap and
€5 Juvenile.
Tickets are General admission.

£20 to watch a match in Corrigan Park...Christ alive!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2023, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 11:46:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2023, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 13, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 12, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 12, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 12, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Was there an offical proposal submitted ? On what basis should they not be relegated.

Yes a proposal to stave off relegation was put forward with promotion of Div2 winners,based on fact that they had county players unavailable.

Don't rule out something like this happening
It happened at the 11th hour in derry last year
As I said before, depends on who ends up in the bottom 2 !!

Yeah if the Johnnies are in the bottom two can see this happen ;D

Or St.Galls god forbid  ::)

Going down did us no harm in the past so whatever happens happens.
very hard to get up from div 2 MR2

We went on to win the senior championship after a spell in div 2 and the rest was history, the league doesn't lie, teams are missing players all year for various different reasons, and not just because of county involvement, its a very small part of it, it should allow you to develop those fringe players and improve the squad.

We had the starred games in hurling a load of years ago and other counties used to have it also, personally I wasn't in favour of them but see how they could be used, but the county commitments are huge now so not sure if that's even available now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 14, 2023, 09:22:43 AM
Couldn't agree more. My own club have 4 players out with long term injuries. We've been forced to play younger players week in week out. We've lost games because of it but we've progressed these young lads and they look set to play championship this year. Every club has missing players but only some choose to moan about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 14, 2023, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: ck on June 14, 2023, 09:22:43 AM
Couldn't agree more. My own club have 4 players out with long term injuries. We've been forced to play younger players week in week out. We've lost games because of it but we've progressed these young lads and they look set to play championship this year. Every club has missing players but only some choose to moan about it.


If St.Enda's go down they will obviously pin this on  players from county, if mcCavanagh lets it happen :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 02:28:29 PM
id like to see a restructure in the leagues back to 4 divisions. Too big of a gap between top of 2 and 3 to the bottom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 14, 2023, 03:20:52 PM
100 percent agree, should be Division 1 - 4 with 8 teams in each or a close to that as possible. The quality in each division would improve
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
bottom 5 of the div 1 at the minute with top 3 in division 2 would make two very good leagues

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
bottom 5 of the div 1 at the minute with top 3 in division 2 would make two very good leagues

In all that time of our success I think we won the league once. Now you can take from that what you want but the league has its uses but no one is getting open top buses in the back of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 14, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
bottom 5 of the div 1 at the minute with top 3 in division 2 would make two very good leagues

In all that time of our success I think we won the league once. Now you can take from that what you want but the league has its uses but no one is getting open top buses in the back of them.
After two discussions, in February, it was agreed that two teams relegated and one promoted , with a review of league structures
in September. Three clubs don't like that outcome because it doesnt suit them. They didn't even consider or reference any team in Div 2  being impacted @ e.g. Dunloy - massively impacted in football.
4 leagues of 8 would be best solution for CCC , in terms of fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 14, 2023, 08:55:09 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 14, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
bottom 5 of the div 1 at the minute with top 3 in division 2 would make two very good leagues

In all that time of our success I think we won the league once. Now you can take from that what you want but the league has its uses but no one is getting open top buses in the back of them.
After two discussions, in February, it was agreed that two teams relegated and one promoted , with a review of league structures
in September. Three clubs don't like that outcome because it doesnt suit them. They didn't even consider or reference any team in Div 2  being impacted @ e.g. Dunloy - massively impacted in football.
4 leagues of 8 would be best solution for CCC , in terms of fixtures.

4 teams of 8 would be good yes, but for 2025 onwards
Bottom 2 down this year, 1 up as was proposed
Next season, no split, top 8 is 2025 discontinued 1
Next 4 plus top 4 in division 2 is second division etc etc
It means this year's relegated teams can't return straight away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 15, 2023, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 14, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
bottom 5 of the div 1 at the minute with top 3 in division 2 would make two very good leagues

In all that time of our success I think we won the league once. Now you can take from that what you want but the league has its uses but no one is getting open top buses in the back of them.
After two discussions, in February, it was agreed that two teams relegated and one promoted , with a review of league structures
in September. Three clubs don't like that outcome because it doesnt suit them. They didn't even consider or reference any team in Div 2  being impacted @ e.g. Dunloy - massively impacted in football.
4 leagues of 8 would be best solution for CCC , in terms of fixtures.

So St Endas, St Brigids and one other???????

Who is the most likely?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2023, 09:09:17 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 15, 2023, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 14, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 14, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
bottom 5 of the div 1 at the minute with top 3 in division 2 would make two very good leagues

In all that time of our success I think we won the league once. Now you can take from that what you want but the league has its uses but no one is getting open top buses in the back of them.
After two discussions, in February, it was agreed that two teams relegated and one promoted , with a review of league structures
in September. Three clubs don't like that outcome because it doesnt suit them. They didn't even consider or reference any team in Div 2  being impacted @ e.g. Dunloy - massively impacted in football.
4 leagues of 8 would be best solution for CCC , in terms of fixtures.

So St Endas, St Brigids and one other???????

Who is the most likely?

We've only one actual player so I'd be wondering who else has been suffering more? St Johns have players in county hurling and football that have missed the club season, Tir na Og or Rossa wouldn't be missing many? Leaving Moneyglass, who'll have missed but both them and St Johns are sitting with 12 points and should pick up enough points with all their players back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2023, 09:18:00 AM
Rossa's two best players(goalie and McEnhill) would be in the football and then Walsh would be handy enough from the hurling too.

You're right about st johns and the hurling. They'd be missing a lot through the hurling. Also I'd expect Fitzpatrick to play more in the summer. (or in fact maybe linfield start early for europe so not sure?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2023, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2023, 09:18:00 AM
Rossa's two best players(goalie and McEnhill) would be in the football and then Walsh would be handy enough from the hurling too.

You're right about st johns and the hurling. They'd be missing a lot through the hurling. Also I'd expect Fitzpatrick to play more in the summer. (or in fact maybe linfield start early for europe so not sure?)

Always forget about the keepers lol!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 15, 2023, 09:57:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2023, 09:18:00 AM
Rossa's two best players(goalie and McEnhill) would be in the football and then Walsh would be handy enough from the hurling too.

You're right about st johns and the hurling. They'd be missing a lot through the hurling. Also I'd expect Fitzpatrick to play more in the summer. (or in fact maybe linfield start early for europe so not sure?)


Very handy indeed - watch this space!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 16, 2023, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 15, 2023, 09:57:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2023, 09:18:00 AM
Rossa's two best players(goalie and McEnhill) would be in the football and then Walsh would be handy enough from the hurling too.

You're right about st johns and the hurling. They'd be missing a lot through the hurling. Also I'd expect Fitzpatrick to play more in the summer. (or in fact maybe linfield start early for europe so not sure?)


Very handy indeed - watch this space!

Watched the space and know the craic......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2023, 01:05:36 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow and hopefully seeing a good performance from Andys men. Be good to see decent support getting there and behind the team too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2023, 01:15:17 PM
Can't say I've seen Antrim play Carlow in football and if I have it's a long time ago
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jdyok on June 17, 2023, 01:19:59 PM
In 2018 the sides met at Corrigan Park in a game where Carlow created their own little bit of history by defeating Antrim to secure promotion to division 3 with Laoise, confining Antrim to another year in the basement division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2023, 02:10:03 PM
I remember one Saturday evening in casement we played them in division four and won easy enough. Hopefully it'll be the same but no guarantee of anything...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2023, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2023, 02:10:03 PM
I remember one Saturday evening in casement we played them in division four and won easy enough. Hopefully it'll be the same but no guarantee of anything...

Aye Casement would be the last I'd seen them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 17, 2023, 04:18:13 PM
I see Ahoghill v Creggan was replayed this afternoon.
4 point win for Creggan. I thought that Creggan caused the abandonment of the original  game . 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 17, 2023, 05:08:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 17, 2023, 04:18:13 PM
I see Ahoghill v Creggan was replayed this afternoon.
4 point win for Creggan. I thought that Creggan caused the abandonment of the original  game .

Was not a replay.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 17, 2023, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on June 17, 2023, 05:08:37 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 17, 2023, 04:18:13 PM
I see Ahoghill v Creggan was replayed this afternoon.
4 point win for Creggan. I thought that Creggan caused the abandonment of the original  game .

Was not a replay.......
Cheers for update , so original game outcome stood
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 17, 2023, 06:53:34 PM
So a new man in the squad tomorrow....

Will Ger Walsh start.......?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 17, 2023, 08:01:25 PM
That's the strongest starting team this year so far IMO. Good luck to Andy and team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 17, 2023, 09:04:46 PM
Good luck to the fellas tomorrow, I really hope we win, a semi final in Croke Park and more importantly, I think we can win the overall competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 17, 2023, 09:22:04 PM
Will probably be a few tweaks to the starting 15, Cavan and Linerick gone, both favourites today so no room whatsoever for any complacency. Come on Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 17, 2023, 11:36:31 PM
Andy has a habit of tweaking the published first 15, expect to see Deccy Lynch start tomorrow, very much needed for his know how at this level against a very physical Carlow team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 18, 2023, 03:16:14 PM
McEntee out!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 03:18:02 PM
Good decent display on top for most of the game but allowing Carlow a sniff of a chance late on..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 18, 2023, 03:45:16 PM
Great performance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 18, 2023, 04:24:09 PM
Great result, lots of positive things about today, maybe even it's a good thing we didn't end up winning by 7 or 8 points. Bigger crowd than I would have anticipated too, great to see. Our squad has real depth now and an outing in Croke Park is the least they deserve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 04:44:06 PM
Is there a round of club fixtures next Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2023, 04:45:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 18, 2023, 04:24:09 PM
Great result, lots of positive things about today, maybe even it's a good thing we didn't end up winning by 7 or 8 points. Bigger crowd than I would have anticipated too, great to see. Our squad has real depth now and an outing in Croke Park is the least they deserve.
This is what the Tailteann Cup is about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 18, 2023, 04:49:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 04:44:06 PM
Is there a round of club fixtures next Sunday?

No, after today it's 3 Wednesday's in a row
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 18, 2023, 04:49:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 04:44:06 PM
Is there a round of club fixtures next Sunday?

No, after today it's 3 Wednesday's in a row

See that but a round of hurling fixtures Sunday 2pm, wonder will they be changed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 18, 2023, 05:00:40 PM
Full set of hurling fixtures next Sunday. Likely to be moved i would have thought.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 18, 2023, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 18, 2023, 05:00:40 PM
Full set of hurling fixtures next Sunday. Likely to be moved in would have thought.

For all divisions ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 05:04:51 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 18, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
Summer football in Croke Park. So well deserved by all the lads and management who have worked hard this year.  Hope they give it a real lash in the semi.  It seems written in the stars that Andy will have to face Meath at some stage, but who would we like to get in the Draw tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2023, 08:16:18 PM
Fair play Andy and the team . Brilliant to bring antrim to croke . The fella doesn't care what club u r from he just plays the players he thinks are the best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:17:50 PM
100%. Four wins in a row in our own grade, excellent stuff. New stars starting to shine, add Patrick McCormick to that growing list of standout players dismissed by EMG who has stepped up big time. Ten from Dommo and lots of positives...Jordy and Decky Lynch never let us down...those four candidates for MOM...imo.

McGinley must be looking in and saying WTF!

Special shout out to Luke for an instinctive save which was looking goalbound, and that kept us in it.

Hopefully clubs will organise buses for next week, only fair we all get behind this progress curve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 18, 2023, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:17:50 PM
100%. Four wins in a row in our own grade, excellent stuff. New stars starting to shine, add Patrick McCormick to that growing list of standout players dismissed by EMG who has stepped up big time. Ten from Dommo and lots of positives...Jordy and Decky Lynch never let us down...those four candidates for MOM...imo.

McGinley must be looking in and saying WTF!

Special shout out to Luke for an instinctive save which was looking goalbound, and that kept us in it.

Hopefully clubs will organise buses for next week, only fair we all get behind this progress curve.
Can't even bask in the great victory without looking backwards and slagging the last manager. Boys a dear.
Big well done to Antrim today bringing back some real positivity in the county and a trip to Croke Park for the young kids around Antrim into the bargain.
Just back from Aghagallon thought I was in the Athletic grounds there was that many Armagh jerseys on show in the crowd (just a joke). Great game served up in fairness, very entertaining.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 18, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
Wasn't cargins HT total 3-0 ?
Strange score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:34:02 PM
Not boys a dear EOC..not by a long stretch! I will enjoy tonight as well as anyone but still scratching my head at how certain players were overlooked by previous. Players who a year later are running the show.

Is it not OK to say that? Yes/No?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 18, 2023, 08:35:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:34:02 PM
Not boys a dear EOC..not by a long stretch! I will enjoy tonight as well as anyone but still scratching my head at how certain players were overlooked by previous. Players who a year later are running the show.

Is it not OK to say that? Yes/No?
You've a personal issue there you'd be better letting go of BS, be positive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 18, 2023, 08:37:38 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 18, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
Wasn't cargins HT total 3-0 ?
Strange score
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 18, 2023, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 18, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
Wasn't cargins HT total 3-0 ?
Strange score
Aye hard to explain that, we prob only had one other chance at a point that hit the post in 1st half. Aghagallon missing their 2 marquee fwds of course but we still happy to come away with the points as we were down to 14 for 3/4 of the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2023, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:34:02 PM
Not boys a dear EOC..not by a long stretch! I will enjoy tonight as well as anyone but still scratching my head at how certain players were overlooked by previous. Players who a year later are running the show.

Is it not OK to say that? Yes/No?

Bs you should move on tbh. We'd a great result today again. Focus on the positives- it's what you always seem to do except when emcg is involved!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:49:07 PM
Took a look at the league table there and surely that's some kind of history taking place with top 5 positions filled by SW clubs.

Credit to hard work going on in rural parishes. That Ahoghill will finish ahead of St Brigids is in itself an amazing statistic...a club made up by about a dozen families.

Crazy times!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2023, 08:51:30 PM
My da was saying exactly that to me today.

Looks like Rossa and randalstown in trouble.

Ballymena draw and Glenravel win in two makes it interesting too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:54:11 PM
I'm trying ITG, trust me. Going in the right direction makes that a bit easier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
No bus from cargin going down id say. . Sulkers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 18, 2023, 08:54:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 18, 2023, 08:34:02 PM
Not boys a dear EOC..not by a long stretch! I will enjoy tonight as well as anyone but still scratching my head at how certain players were overlooked by previous. Players who a year later are running the show.

Is it not OK to say that? Yes/No?



Have known, and was friendly with a long list of lads who took up the challenge of managing the Saffrons for a long time now and have yet to pass comment on lack of success thereon. To a man they all gave of their best in the Antrim cause and negativity thrown after departure is uncalled for.


With the exception of one 'success' has eluded us/them for a long, long time....

Indeed I believe some within did their best in club management with limited success..

Stark facts are clubs are not productive in our county  and we can only gaze across the river and acknowledge our failings.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 18, 2023, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
No bus from cargin going down id say. . Sulkers
We'll go down surely and support 2 of our young players who are part of the panel, you hate that don't you Belfast GAA man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 18, 2023, 09:05:03 PM
Good stuff EOC. Two good lads they are. And SON in or around it next year too, maybe others...doors open for any young player making progress, the way it should be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 18, 2023, 09:08:06 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 18, 2023, 09:05:03 PM
Good stuff EOC. Two good lads they are. And SON in or around it next year too, maybe others...doors open for any young player making progress, the way it should be.
Not sure he will, treated terribly and like a spare part by AMcE, but that's the choice you get when you become manager, you can pick who you want. The way it should be
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 18, 2023, 09:12:18 PM
Great win today. Its been a positive season however further the team goes. Hopefully can get the likes of mckeever, delargy, johnston brothers etc to buy into it next year and really kick on with the strongest squad possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2023, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 18, 2023, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
No bus from cargin going down id say. . Sulkers
We'll go down surely and support 2 of our young players who are part of the panel, you hate that don't you Belfast GAA man
cargin best club in antrim by a mile and not one playing today ffs . Join in and make us stronger
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2023, 09:28:50 PM
Quinn came on early and Johnston came on too. Some of their young guys will be starting soon enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 09:36:52 PM
Plenty of improvement from todays game which is a positive by the way. Still thin with the panel I think.

We need everyone to buy in and create the strongest panel. Some lads still developing on the physical side of things too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on June 18, 2023, 10:19:22 PM
Great feel good vibe roday in Corrigan. Would like to credit the players for the time they afforded young fans coming onto the pitch at full time. The enthusiasm of the young fans is the biggest vote of confidence for the tailtain cup that the county can get. Hopefully antrim will support amd enable the clubs to send as many underage players as possible to croke park next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 18, 2023, 10:45:47 PM
So Antrim are having a positive season and yet we have people pining for certain players from certain clubs.

Why?

Maybe the fact those lads are not in the mix has left a better balanced squad.

And a lot of this squad is in its infancy in terms of county experience so potential to get much better.

Forget yesterday's men.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 18, 2023, 10:51:51 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on June 18, 2023, 10:19:22 PM
Great feel good vibe roday in Corrigan. Would like to credit the players for the time they afforded young fans coming onto the pitch at full time. The enthusiasm of the young fans is the biggest vote of confidence for the tailtain cup that the county can get. Hopefully antrim will support amd enable the clubs to send as many underage players as possible to croke park next week

There was a feel god vibe. Coming straight from an u17 game, I was 10 mins late getting in and was pleasantly surprised at the size of the crowd. So many familiar faces too, and all delighted to be supporting a winning team that was playing some positive, attacking football. Very happy too to see a bit of steel / nastiness when it was required. That's part of what's required if we are going to step up in the years ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 18, 2023, 11:31:23 PM
Superb result but have to say it was expected. I was less sure about the Fermanagh game.
Well done all involved and also learned that Antrim county board gave out free tickets to a lot of schools in the county to make sure the next generation was there. Smart initiative and a very progressive move.
Well done all!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2023, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: ck on June 18, 2023, 11:31:23 PM
Superb result but have to say it was expected. I was less sure about the Fermanagh game.
Well done all involved and also learned that Antrim county board gave out free tickets to a lot of schools in the county to make sure the next generation was there. Smart initiative and a very progressive move.
Well done all!

Plus the on field half time games were great, all those kids came charging on after the final whistle getting autographs.

Fair play to all, Corrigan, considering the dry spell (I'd been on it on Wednesday night) looked grand, a lot of injuries are coming from falls, not collisions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 19, 2023, 12:45:43 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on June 18, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
No bus from cargin going down id say. . Sulkers

Plenty of Cargin supporters there today getting behind the. Saffs tbf
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 07:20:01 AM
Quote from: ck on June 18, 2023, 11:31:23 PM
Superb result but have to say it was expected. I was less sure about the Fermanagh game.
Well done all involved and also learned that Antrim county board gave out free tickets to a lot of schools in the county to make sure the next generation was there. Smart initiative and a very progressive move.
Well done all!

Tbh I'd a better feeling about the fermanagh game. Dunno what i was - think it was the favourites tag. I think it's ok now though as we certainly won't be favourites in the semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 08:40:22 AM
meath...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 08:40:22 AM
meath...

The hardest draw, I'd say they were all looking us but the other game is a 50/50 ... Sure give it a lash and see how we go, if we continue to open up those goal chances we could spring a surprise, but Meath could also cut us open too

Be a strange one for Andy too no doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 08:55:06 AM
Yeah the ideal you'd have wanted would have been Laois which couldn't have happened. Tough draw as they battered wexford who put it up to us but we've improved and are hopefully much more confident etc now. Hopefully injuries hold up and we have nothing to lose here. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 19, 2023, 08:55:20 AM
Bonus territory! When's the last time Antrim footballers played in Croke Park? Have many of the lads played in Croke Park before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 08:56:50 AM
Tommy Murphy cup I would say which was a good while ago and I would doubt too many of current panel have played in Croke.

Exactly we are in bonus territory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 19, 2023, 09:40:40 AM
There was a Division 4 final in Croke Park v Louth under Fitzy / Gearoid, in 2016.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 10:29:43 AM
Ah forgot about that. McBride and Lynch anyway at a guess would have been involved then.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0423/783775-antrim-v-louth/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0423/783775-antrim-v-louth/)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 19, 2023, 10:39:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 10:29:43 AM
Ah forgot about that. McBride and Lynch anyway at a guess would have been involved then.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0423/783775-antrim-v-louth/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0423/783775-antrim-v-louth/)

Luke and Adam won a Hogan in Croke Park as well. So a good few playing their first game in Croker. Best season in years for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on June 19, 2023, 10:52:57 AM
Players not available for clubs again Wednesday night - some fighting relegation!  Cant be right!
But dont know what the solution is... 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2023, 11:31:49 AM
Dermot McAleese also featured in Croke Park that day. Hopefully is okay after yesterday's nasty eye injury that left him hospitalised and unable to see from one eye. That man has had more than his share of bad luck on the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 12:19:46 PM
I see all games that were fixed for Sunday have been shifted to the Saturday.. Well done
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 19, 2023, 01:13:51 PM
Is there any reason as to why Gort Na Mona conceded their match at the weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 19, 2023, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 19, 2023, 01:13:51 PM
Is there any reason as to why Gort Na Mona conceded their match at the weekend

hurling also it seems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 19, 2023, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 19, 2023, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 19, 2023, 01:13:51 PM
Is there any reason as to why Gort Na Mona conceded their match at the weekend

hurling also it seems

They are safe in division 2 but not safe in hurling I see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 19, 2023, 03:21:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 19, 2023, 11:31:49 AM
Dermot McAleese also featured in Croke Park that day. Hopefully is okay after yesterday's nasty eye injury that left him hospitalised and unable to see from one eye. That man has had more than his share of bad luck on the pitch.

McAleese is a warrior. One of my favourite players. Hope he is back for Sunday. Any update BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 19, 2023, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 19, 2023, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 19, 2023, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 19, 2023, 01:13:51 PM
Is there any reason as to why Gort Na Mona conceded their match at the weekend

hurling also it seems

They are safe in division 2 but not safe in hurling I see

Close to being relegated in hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2023, 03:42:35 PM
 Dermot couldn't see out of his right eye for 4 hours after being taken to the RVH. Thankfully his vision returned and great news CK, will be fully available for selection on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 04:17:45 PM
2 pm sunday in croke. Down game at 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 19, 2023, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 19, 2023, 03:42:35 PM
Dermot couldn't see out of one his right eye for 4 hours after being taken to the RVH. Thankfully his vision returned and great news CK, will be fully available for selection on Sunday.

That's great news. Hard to keep a good man down!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2023, 06:30:15 PM
News about Big Conor Stewart not good I'm afraid. Fears an ACL joint popped yesterday look to be true. Big loss for us and devastating blow for the big man in the week that's in it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 19, 2023, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 19, 2023, 06:30:15 PM
News about Big Conor Stewart not good I'm afraid. Fears an ACL joint popped yesterday look to be true. Big loss for us and devastating blow for the big man in the week that's in it!

You feared the worst when it happened, was down a long time and seemed to be in agony.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 07:46:13 PM
Yeah, looked sore on the lad, thought maybe his foot got stuck but considering how hard the ground was there'll be plenty of injuries
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 20, 2023, 09:36:10 AM
That's not good. Big loss as he was developing into a big player for us and hopefully he makes a full and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2023, 12:09:02 AM
PG1 v Aghagallon a good tight contest throughout, second half in particular played with some intensity from both teams. Never much between us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 22, 2023, 08:55:42 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 22, 2023, 12:09:02 AM
PG1 v Aghagallon a good tight contest throughout, second half in particular played with some intensity from both teams. Never much between us.

League is won congratulations BS that's the first major honour tucked away
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2023, 08:56:42 AM
Relegation places very tight. Good wins for Rossa and TNN  last night and Moneyglass look to be getting pulled in. St Johns look to be pulling themselves out - county hurlers likely a big bearing on this I imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2023, 09:56:58 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 21, 2023, 10:55:36 PM
Johnnies just a bit too much for us tonight,looking grim,hoping for a miracle,maybe even KP do us a bit off a fav next wed😉

That's a bit of unfair pressure  ;D

If he's reading this it could go the other way ;)

As for us, we just don't have the the luck or the bounce of the ball to go our way, experience players to get you through the experience of winning tight games is very much missing.

We'll have to accept that a a drop into Div 2 is on the cards, as someone said before, getting out of that would be hard enough also
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2023, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 22, 2023, 10:32:25 AM
KP hasn't kicked many pts for us this year lol,just think he should be reffing a top 6 game instead off bottom 7 were we are in ,only fair on him😉

If we'd more ref's we'd have a better spread of people doing games, hard to keep them when the sidelines are hurling abuse for most of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 22, 2023, 02:31:31 PM
Thanks EOC, but we both know that the league is not over and that a Cargin side who has got its mojo and some big names back can kick the door wide open if you beat us next Wednesday. No easy games in top 6, and CB has frequently alluded to our poor statistic card against Erins Own...so we aren't making plans for a victory parade just yet!

Therefore, it is with regret I cannot accept your kind offer of concession, lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 22, 2023, 10:53:02 PM
Very tight in 1B and 2A 👌👌
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 23, 2023, 11:32:11 AM
Good luck to the footballers on Sunday.  Meath are well used to Croke Park so they won't have to settle, but Antrim will.  Hopefully they'll rise to the occasion and enjoy playing in Croke Park.  70 minutes from a very big Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Any team news yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 23, 2023, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Any team news yet?

Sheeny mcquillan midfield
Good free taker essential
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
 ;D

Still eating him that 45 didn't go over. Time to make it right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barelegs on June 23, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Any team news yet?

Antrim: Michael Byrne; Patrick McCormick, Peter Healy, Eoghan McCabe; Dermot McAleese, Declan Lynch, Marc Jordan; Eunan Quinn, Cathal Hynds; Patrick McBride, Adam Loughran, Ruairí McCann; Ronan Boyle, Ruairí McCann, Dominic McEnhill.

Subs: Luke Mulholland, Cormac McGettigan, James McAuley, Barry McCormick, Gerard Walsh, Colm McLarnon, Conor Hand, Joseph Finnegan, Conhuir Johnston, Odhran Eastwood, Calum Higgins.

From preview on GAA.ie. Understand there was another ACL injury on Tuesday night at training
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 23, 2023, 01:04:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 23, 2023, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Any team news yet?

Sheeny mcquillan midfield
Good free taker essential
Joe Quinn too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 23, 2023, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
;D

Still eating him that 45 didn't go over. Time to make it right.
55 metres out heading over the bar only for the legend that is Anthony Tohill to be standing under the crossbar at the time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 02:02:44 PM
I thought I'd never see antrim in an ulster final after that. Still surprised that I have lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 23, 2023, 04:23:58 PM
We won the old 'B' final in 1999, just before finally winning an USFC match in 2000. We won the Tommy Murphy Cup (reigning champions!) in 2008 just before the momentous season of 2009 (and 2010 wasn't bad either). Maybe winning, or going well in (which we have already) the Tailteann Cup this year can kick off a new period of success too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on June 23, 2023, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: barelegs on June 23, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Any team news yet?

Antrim: Michael Byrne; Patrick McCormick, Peter Healy, Eoghan McCabe; Dermot McAleese, Declan Lynch, Marc Jordan; Eunan Quinn, Cathal Hynds; Patrick McBride, Adam Loughran, Ruairí McCann; Ronan Boyle, Ruairí McCann, Dominic McEnhill.

Subs: Luke Mulholland, Cormac McGettigan, James McAuley, Barry McCormick, Gerard Walsh, Colm McLarnon, Conor Hand, Joseph Finnegan, Conhuir Johnston, Odhran Eastwood, Calum Higgins.

From preview on GAA.ie. Understand there was another ACL injury on Tuesday night at training

Why is mcGettigan not starting ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 23, 2023, 09:48:16 PM
Don't think Andy is on here lol Antrimman667, but Cormac making good impression first year on squad and probably plenty of county game time miles in him going forward. Understand the frustration with Rossa needing him too, no easy answers to that except its part of the job description for players opting to participate in county panels at elite level.

Big assignment awaits on Sunday, hopefully we will be competitive throughout now that it's on the national stage and win lose or draw we come up the road on Sunday night with pride intact/full.

Lets get behind them from the start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 23, 2023, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 23, 2023, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: barelegs on June 23, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2023, 11:33:27 AM
Any team news yet?

Antrim: Michael Byrne; Patrick McCormick, Peter Healy, Eoghan McCabe; Dermot McAleese, Declan Lynch, Marc Jordan; Eunan Quinn, Cathal Hynds; Patrick McBride, Adam Loughran, Ruairí McCann; Ronan Boyle, Ruairí McCann, Dominic McEnhill.

Subs: Luke Mulholland, Cormac McGettigan, James McAuley, Barry McCormick, Gerard Walsh, Colm McLarnon, Conor Hand, Joseph Finnegan, Conhuir Johnston, Odhran Eastwood, Calum Higgins.

From preview on GAA.ie. Understand there was another ACL injury on Tuesday night at training

Why is mcGettigan not starting ???



That would have to be the youngest midfield pair in inter county football at present, 19 and 20.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 23, 2023, 11:20:14 PM
I hope Eunan Quinn has the game of his life on Sunday, I really do and Antrim need him to if that team is the starting team ,but honestly if RD had him available I'm not sure he would be in the Cargin starting 15 yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2023, 11:56:09 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on June 23, 2023, 11:20:14 PM
I hope Eunan Quinn has the game of his life on Sunday, I really do and Antrim need him to if that team is the starting team ,but honestly if RD had him available I'm not sure he would be in the Cargin starting 15 yet.

I'd agree with that, very raw and inexperienced at that level even for your club, but that's what Andy wants, height youth and someone who'll he be able to mould into inter county.

And so far Andy has worked it well, Meath are a huge step up so hoping we stay with them and be in the mix near the end
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2023, 05:46:24 PM
Named yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 24, 2023, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on June 24, 2023, 06:15:24 PM
Not on twitter or website?

It's on top of this page, this is our twitter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 24, 2023, 06:43:26 PM
Patrick unfortunately picked up a serious injury at training earlier in the week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2023, 09:13:30 PM
Pity too Brendan because Patrick's big engine would suit Croke Park. Harsh luck on Paddy and Big Conor. Two of our better players all year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on June 25, 2023, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on June 24, 2023, 06:43:26 PM
Patrick unfortunately picked up a serious injury at training earlier in the week.

That's a real shame. What's the injury?

Good luck to young Quinn at midfield. Surprised at the team selection but I wouldn't question Andy at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2023, 10:15:05 AM
Some serious rain falling, going to make it a games of errors, hopefully we can make the most of our chances today. We need to take every opportunity
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2023, 10:26:49 AM
Is Quinn big Eddie's son?

Best of luck to the team today. No matter what happens been a big year. Hopefully get another day out of it too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 25, 2023, 03:37:26 PM
Great effort but poor shooting and composure at times had a big impact. Great season overall and was brilliant seeing our clubmen getting some great coverage on RTE.
Well done Meath and Saffron Voice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 25, 2023, 03:43:49 PM
Good game that advert for the Tailteann Cup.  It definitely is the right way for the GAA to go with this "secondary" competition as it gives a platform for these players to get to croke Park. Things like that encourages the youth within the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 25, 2023, 08:00:39 PM
One helluva lot of positives to take out of today.  So much youth on display and they left everything on the pitch.  Yes there is plenty to improve on as well of course, and hopefully more players will put their hand up come the championship. Really well set up for next year if everyone keeps pulling in the same direction.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on June 25, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
Certainly been a great year and massive strides forward

We all single players out who should/shouldn't be getting game time etc i find it strange Eastwood has played very little championship football. Certainly on the smaller side but to me he's one of those players when on the ball you feel like something is happening

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 25, 2023, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2023, 10:26:49 AM
Is Quinn big Eddie's son?

Best of luck to the team today. No matter what happens been a big year. Hopefully get another day out of it too.


No. Eddie would be his uncle, he's a son of Martin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2023, 11:11:20 PM
What a fantastic effort, lost nothing in that marginal defeat to a Meath team who know we matched them from start ti finish. Went down with swords held high, and what a first season from Andy and his management team.

Some massive performances today, maybe Declan Lynch and Patrick McCormack were top of that list imo..we have something very solid to build on next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2023, 11:22:37 PM
There was some performances up and down the pitch, Dermot solid first half, blistering second half, Marc Jordan never stopped, Deccy was hovering up a lot of ball, yes we probably left that one behind but no one gave them a chance going into it.

Died with their boots on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on June 25, 2023, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: saffman on June 25, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
Certainly been a great year and massive strides forward

We all single players out who should/shouldn't be getting game time etc i find it strange Eastwood has played very little championship football. Certainly on the smaller side but to me he's one of those players when on the ball you feel like something is happening

Agree, find it strange as he offers more from play than others

But a great year and I wouldn't question Andy too much!

3rd quarter killed us but we died with our boots on

Thanks to Andy and the team for the effort this year, massive positivity going into next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2023, 11:43:12 PM
Agree MR. Dermot and Jordy put in some shift..Peter Healy some loss too, was going well until he manly put his hand up.

Hopefully Andy & Co see the plenty of positives, next year is a new season and players like Ryan Murray, Niall Delargy, Paddy Mc Aleer, Jamie Gribben and plenty of others might check in and keep the selection panel busy.

Despite defeat today, very proud of our effort and to be a Saffron tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2023, 11:47:54 PM
One last thing, Conchuir Johnston was immense in the 15 mins he was on the field, played a massive role in our comeback. In top half dozen under 18s in the country? A player youde gladly pay in to watch..maybe a superstar we haven't had for decades.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on June 26, 2023, 12:02:42 AM
Alot of pride put back into the saffron Jersey today!!

You couldn't fault the effort of any Antrim player ,just a few simple mistakes was the difference ,we where the better team only for 10min spell at the start of second half.
Alot of positives to pocket for next year.

It's funny though that we have to get to Croke Park till get a decent crowd out  !!

Nobody can question Andys methods now and hopefully next year he gets ever player in the County putting their hand up to play for him.

Maybe now the negatively some keep spouting can stop as we look forward to next year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 26, 2023, 12:50:05 AM
Great performance today. Stood toe to toe with Meath & were the better
team for large portions of the game. Marc jordan was brilliant throughout. His running game is hard to stop. Thought decky lynch was excellent as well, massive game from him. And in fairness, all the lads played really well. Could have probably used mccann more as he was causing trouble with any ball coming into him. Loughran is a danger anytime he touches the ball. Thought the 2 cargin lads done really well too considering there age.

Thought we were a bit wiped out in midfield at times (hopefully bannside has a word with mckeever and delargy to get them on board next year)

In fairness to meath, they have some deadly shooters. Morris is a class act.

Ryan murray was a big miss, would have definitely made a difference.

But all in all a very positive performance from antrim. Played some really good football. Kick on for next year and no reason why we cant get upto div 2.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 26, 2023, 09:35:25 AM
Agree with all has been said about the performance yesterday, definitely a match we could, maybe should, have won. That's the county football season over for another year, next years league seems a long way off. The team is now totally transformed in terms of personnel and system. On another note the Antrim support yesterday was huge, a terrific atmosphere around the pubs (one in particular!) and indeed with the team and management mingling afterwards. What a pleasure to have a day out in Croke Park not just as an interested gaelic football follower but a supporter of a competing team. It was a day to remember.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 26, 2023, 10:02:44 AM
Thrilling game, I was at our place as we had hosted Antrim ladies v Longford, the roar from the social club when Antrims late goal in Croke went in could be heard all around Toome! To be fair McEntee has managed CJ well and not over exposed him. Cant wait to see him on Wed night v Portglenone.
Something to build on for next year and something hopefully others will want to come and be part of. Was it just me or were there several scores Meath got when the shooter went completely unchallenged? Centre Half back is definitely a position we could strengthen for next season. Good year though all in all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2023, 10:14:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 26, 2023, 10:02:44 AM
Thrilling game, I was at our place as we had hosted Antrim ladies v Longford, the roar from the social club when Antrims late goal in Croke went in could be heard all around Toome! To be fair McEntee has managed CJ well and not over exposed him. Cant wait to see him on Wed night v Portglenone.
Something to build on for next year and something hopefully others will want to come and be part of. Was it just me or were there several scores Meath got when the shooter went completely unchallenged? Centre Half back is definitely a position we could strengthen for next season. Good year though all in all.

Some of the Meath lads up front had a bitta pace about them too, we are missing a few players from the squad recently so Andy has played what he feels has worked best for him, hopefully we can plug those gaps better next year.

In a game you won't always make the right calls, should I pass, shoot, solo or track a player there was some of those in yesterdays match, and the players straight away know they haven't made the right move, but they have defo progress as the season went on and didn't lie down yesterday.

I don't mind if my team loses providing they have maximized their potential and just beat by the better team on the day, I hate when they go out without a fight, and that didn't happen yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 26, 2023, 10:17:38 AM
I was very critical after the Armagh game but I have to take my hat off to Andy McEntee and the players, that was a performance to be proud of.  Clearly the management are trying to build something with a certain style of play and type of player.  A couple of wee mistakes and taking the wrong option now and again was the difference.  First time I've seen Adam Loughran play "live", he looks a very tidy footballer indeed, but they all played well. No reason Antrim can't get to Div 2 or be seriously competitive in the Tailteann next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 10:40:01 AM
We struggled a bit with their FF line. Only one criticism would be I don't know if our FB line had enough cover or maybe struggled but it was a serious shift put in by all. When we were down by 7 or 8 or whatever it was there was serious character shown to get back into it.

Like others have said I am not convinced we should have won it but we definitely could have won it.

The hope would now be that people see McEntee is trying to build something and we get buy in. These players will have improved significantly this year and then hopefully a few others come in too. We had a lot of injuries and the replacements acquitted themselves well.

I think McEntee is trying to play a lot more of a physical game which is quite foreign to us and another year of conditioning will improve us massively with that too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 26, 2023, 10:51:19 AM
Full back line exposed yes. But we were 7 or 8 down. Id rather watch us push up and go for it than get beat by 10 and try and limit them. Small margins, decision making in the final third the difference. I thought the half back line of Jordan Lynch and McAleese were super. Our strongest line, steady, carried the ball well and tried to make things happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 10:54:28 AM
Jordan is a fantastic player.  (The others are good too but his direct running is brilliant).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on June 26, 2023, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 26, 2023, 10:02:44 AM
Thrilling game, I was at our place as we had hosted Antrim ladies v Longford, the roar from the social club when Antrims late goal in Croke went in could be heard all around Toome! To be fair McEntee has managed CJ well and not over exposed him. Cant wait to see him on Wed night v Portglenone.
Something to build on for next year and something hopefully others will want to come and be part of. Was it just me or were there several scores Meath got when the shooter went completely unchallenged? Centre Half back is definitely a position we could strengthen for next season. Good year though all in all.

I was at the Ladies game too. It was funny as that game was just kind of closing out with it being over as a contest long before when the roar went up. Cargin isn't the best for signal on the phone and the last update I'd got had Meath well ahead so we were all trying to refresh our phones to get updates. I was tempted to nip in and watch the closing stages but had promised my daughter she could try to get a few pics with the Antrim girls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on June 26, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
Agree about Conhuir Johnston.  Conhuir and Adam Loughran in the half forward line next year is a great prospect.  He split the defence yesterday when he hit a ball with the outside of the boot into the full forward line. The team will be built around him in the next few years, he's that good.
As someone else said there were 5 or 6 times when they got free shots from 35 yards out, something not completely right about our defensive system.
Such a good outlook because we know that those players a year older and with more S&C will be even better, plus a good few other players dotted around the county could make a challenge.
Another player worth a mention from yesterday was Cathal Hynds.  He fought like a lion all day even though he was up against it. Full of heart.
Our underage teams have been complete duff for years, but somehow we've turned a corner yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pub Bore on June 26, 2023, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 26, 2023, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on June 26, 2023, 10:02:44 AM
Thrilling game, I was at our place as we had hosted Antrim ladies v Longford, the roar from the social club when Antrims late goal in Croke went in could be heard all around Toome! To be fair McEntee has managed CJ well and not over exposed him. Cant wait to see him on Wed night v Portglenone.
Something to build on for next year and something hopefully others will want to come and be part of. Was it just me or were there several scores Meath got when the shooter went completely unchallenged? Centre Half back is definitely a position we could strengthen for next season. Good year though all in all.

I was at the Ladies game too. It was funny as that game was just kind of closing out with it being over as a contest long before when the roar went up. Cargin isn't the best for signal on the phone and the last update I'd got had Meath well ahead so we were all trying to refresh our phones to get updates. I was tempted to nip in and watch the closing stages but had promised my daughter she could try to get a few pics with the Antrim girls.

Fair play to the Ladies.  They're flying at the moment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 26, 2023, 11:33:24 AM
Boyle also showed well yesterday. Some of our tackling and turnovers yesterday were outstanding
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:33:31 AM
Where does that leave the ladies now? Are they through to knockouts? Will that be last 4 or last 8?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wolfetones on June 26, 2023, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:33:31 AM
Where does that leave the ladies now? Are they through to knockouts? Will that be last 4 or last 8?

Last 8 with a home quarter final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:37:59 AM
Cheers. That is some going. Ladies scene going well in all codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on June 26, 2023, 01:46:37 PM
All Ireland quarter finals for the ladies. Topped their group so guaranteed a home tie in the quarters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on June 26, 2023, 01:48:44 PM
Just seen the draw was made earlier. Home to Monaghan in the quarters. Beat them away in the Ulster's so could shot of a semi-final place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 26, 2023, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:37:59 AM
Cheers. That is some going. Ladies scene going well in all codes.

Now if they could just do it without engaging in those ridiculous protests it would be even better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 26, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 26, 2023, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:37:59 AM
Cheers. That is some going. Ladies scene going well in all codes.

Now if they could just do it without engaging in those ridiculous protests it would be even better.

I would hope that is sarcasm.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 26, 2023, 02:49:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 26, 2023, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:37:59 AM
Cheers. That is some going. Ladies scene going well in all codes.

Now if they could just do it without engaging in those ridiculous protests it would be even better.

Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 26, 2023, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 26, 2023, 02:49:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 26, 2023, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:37:59 AM
Cheers. That is some going. Ladies scene going well in all codes.

Now if they could just do it without engaging in those ridiculous protests it would be even better.

Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Yeah they should take that course of action  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on June 26, 2023, 04:05:29 PM
There's a fine line between a troll and an idiot that can be difficult to distinguish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 26, 2023, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 26, 2023, 04:05:29 PM
There's a fine line between a troll and an idiot that can be difficult to distinguish.

No trolling here, make their argument for the protest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 26, 2023, 04:35:36 PM
Surely the argument is clear - equality

They should get the basic minimum player welfare needs that all players deserve, same as the men.

Donal Og put the point across on the Sunday Game last night far more eloquently than I can.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 04:37:44 PM
Could we not have another thread for this...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 26, 2023, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 26, 2023, 04:35:36 PM
Surely the argument is clear - equality

They should get the basic minimum player welfare needs that all players deserve, same as the men.

Donal Og put the point across on the Sunday Game last night far more eloquently than I can.

Difference is the GAA control the mens game, but the GAA has no say in either Ladies Football or Camogie.

Their truck is with them, not the GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: keep her low this half on June 27, 2023, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 26, 2023, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 26, 2023, 04:35:36 PM
Surely the argument is clear - equality

They should get the basic minimum player welfare needs that all players deserve, same as the men.

Donal Og put the point across on the Sunday Game last night far more eloquently than I can.

Difference is the GAA control the mens game, but the GAA has no say in either Ladies Football or Camogie.

Their truck is with them, not the GAA.
Thats a fair point but its about time camogie and ladies football were under the same umbrella as the GAA with camogie and ladies football being given equal representation in decision making bodies. Why has the GAA never had a female president? I don't know about your clubs but in ours a lot of the ladies do an awful lot of dull boring administrative work to keep the whole thing running and fair play to them for volunteering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2023, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 26, 2023, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 26, 2023, 04:35:36 PM
Surely the argument is clear - equality

They should get the basic minimum player welfare needs that all players deserve, same as the men.

Donal Og put the point across on the Sunday Game last night far more eloquently than I can.

Difference is the GAA control the mens game, but the GAA has no say in either Ladies Football or Camogie.

Their truck is with them, not the GAA.

JC this is the point exactly. Until they have their own house in order or complete the merger to one organisation then their protests are going to fall on deaf ears.

I am never going to diminish the role women play within the GAA in all types of roles, but you cannot go after the GAA for something it has completely no control over.

Didn't meant to hijack the conversation after the footballer's great performance at the weekend. However couldn't let it slide.

Point has been made now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 27, 2023, 01:54:15 PM
where do we go now? how can we get to the next level? Div 2, TC win or Competing at the top tier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2023, 01:59:25 PM
County season over, well done to all. So many ifs but and maybes that could have seen us into the final, but let's take nothing away from a fantastic effort that sets us up nicely for next season.

Andy spoke well in OTB interview, you could see his disappointment, he knew we had the winning of the game. His stock amongst his own countymen will not have diminished. A big shout out to Donal Murphy who Andy credits almost entirely for selling him the gig along with his passion for better days for Antrim football and the excellent support structure now in place behind the scenes. For that DM deserves enormous credit.

Onwards now to the club scene, which if going by previous years is one of the most open and exciting around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2023, 02:02:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 27, 2023, 01:54:15 PM
where do we go now? how can we get to the next level? Div 2, TC win or Competing at the top tier

Best progression route will always be through the league, as top two are promoted, TC means only the winners are. The league should always be the better platform for Championship

The TC gave Antrim 'championship' football to the end of June, which based on the new formats and split seasons isn't bad, a run out at Croke is sure to wet the appetite of others to follow in their footsteps

We are 5 years away from the S&C of the top teams and would need to up our basic skills plus decision making too, but most of the team looks young enough to get to that level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2023, 03:09:48 PM
Your bare minimum is retaining division three status. What you would love is to get promoted - with westmeath and clare in there that will be tough but it would kind of be your "stretch" goal. Developing a stronger panel is something we need too. We were getting thin on the ground at the end.

The next few weeks at club will be interesting between promotion and relegation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 27, 2023, 03:17:44 PM
Is Donal on the Football management team? Have seen him on the bench for a few games this year, including the game on Sunday there were he was with the rest of the selectors.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2023, 04:35:37 PM
Maybe more involved in managing the large backroom support team, and getting as much value from that as possible. The man puts some hours into the cause, also a young family, job and club treasurer too. Hat off to him no matter what side of the wire he stands on,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2023, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 27, 2023, 03:17:44 PM
Is Donal on the Football management team? Have seen him on the bench for a few games this year, including the game on Sunday there were he was with the rest of the selectors.

Someone from the executive committee (chairman secretary and treasurer) I assume can take those 'seats' as would be the case at club level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 27, 2023, 05:37:50 PM
Normally the secretary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2023, 06:33:31 PM
I know one thing, his ambition for Antrim Football is as good as I've seen from anyone. When EMG stood down it was Donal Murphy who was more proactive than anyone else in finding a successor, starting from the very top down. I just wish we had county officials as ambitious about football punching it's weight over the years.  Every manager from a dev squad right up to senior has everything they need to get their job done...all we now need (and this is down to all of us) is to play some part in bringing through a better quality juvenile, whether that's at club school or county dev squad level. The excellent work by SV / SBF / Club Aontroma has delivered a financial structure that can facilitate this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on June 27, 2023, 10:31:55 PM
I am not a football mad fan but credit to Andy and the county board for putting a bit of pride back in the jersey and setting up a good platform to build from.  A few random observations from the watching it over the last few weeks-

- there seems to be a real air of professionalism and structure about the set up that I haven't seen before
- the physical conditioning seemed to have come a long way (maybe more to do there, I don't know)
- I saw a photograph of the back room team and couldn't believe there was something like 17 on it- not sure how we afford that!
- I think it's refreshing the Conor Laverty allowed the Down players to play for their clubs throughout the TC.  IMO more counties should be doing this- it can only improve the standard of club football which benefits everyone short term.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 27, 2023, 10:49:56 PM
It's not the case that Down players played for their clubs en masse, as suggested. Only fringe players played for their clubs, not that much different than with Antrim players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: wolfofwhitehall on June 28, 2023, 11:29:13 AM
A long shot but does anyone know the laverty cup game results from last night?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 28, 2023, 11:47:46 AM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on June 28, 2023, 11:29:13 AM
A long shot but does anyone know the laverty cup game results from last night?

Cargin beat Con Magees (aet)......super game.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 28, 2023, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: wolfofwhitehall on June 28, 2023, 11:29:13 AM
A long shot but does anyone know the laverty cup game results from last night?

All Saints beat Moneyglass by a goal
Creggan beat tir na nog
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on June 28, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
PG1 win league tonight if they win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on June 28, 2023, 02:03:56 PM
It's in the bag

Quote from: geezer on June 28, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
PG1 win league tonight if they win?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2023, 02:14:58 PM
Would cargin not be favourites to win that game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 28, 2023, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: geezer on June 28, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
PG1 win league tonight if they win?
They do surely, wee bit of pressure on them. Interesting to see how they cope with it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 28, 2023, 02:34:12 PM
Cargin, multiple county champions would be favourites in most people's books, on a good run and a lot of previously missing players back on the fold.

I forecast a close game a few weeks ago and it turned out that way. Not expecting anything else tonight. If we win or draw we will celebrate our first league title...if we lose we will attempt to do so in remaining games.

Cargin the benchmark in the county, anyone seeking silverware needs to be able to match up to that level. And that's not easy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2023, 08:50:47 PM
It's a tight one.... Level with not very long left.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2023, 08:56:51 PM
Cargin win by 2.

St Brigid's beating moneyglass well and Rossa beating St John's.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 28, 2023, 09:17:23 PM
Donal Murphys boot looked very weighed down there on way out, the Eddie Fitz was obviously in there ready to present, Antrim PRO there as well 🤣
All joking aside good tight game we're on a nice run now with players gradually coming back and young guns rising to the fore. Ports be dissapointed but the league is still in their hands. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2023, 09:20:19 PM
There would have been ones on complaining that there was no representation or cup there to present...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 28, 2023, 09:52:02 PM
Hard game to assess. PG1 in control for long periods of first half, two goals in a couple of minutes from Cargin and they went in ahead at the break.

Cargin went four clear and PG1 claw that back to a one point lead with five minutes left, but a shoulder injury to Dermot McAleese with 15 to go left big void and Cargin, as they do, finished strong to keep league open.

As EOC says some of Cargins young guns are settling in and looking good, but PG1 will take positives and know that we are definitely thereabouts, regardless of who wins the league.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 28, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
Glenravel promoted from Div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2023, 10:31:58 PM
Ballymena aldergrove drew. Surprised to see rasharkin get beat at home in division three but they still look on for promotion.

Division one relegation very tight but quite a few teams there with county players back might make a difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 28, 2023, 10:35:15 PM
Ballymena have hit really poor form it seems Baker can't back up his guarantee to them from
Last year about promotion it's not just as easy as he thought this old Antrim football.
On the big game tonight ports just can't get over the line albeit played well at times too ,we have so many more the bring in too McNabb and Mick McCann just to name a couple ,believe they will beat Ahoghill to win it and they deserve to win it this year just can't seem to beat this Cargin team that's over the hill apparently 👀😊
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 28, 2023, 10:43:55 PM
So no bonus for Bradley then ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on June 28, 2023, 10:55:34 PM
I thought Casements last game was against us? (Creggan)

Cargin were missing Mick Paul & Thomas McCann, Cahiar Donnelly, Sean ONeill, Pat Shivers and John McNabb from their championship winning team. They introduced O Neill for the injured James Laverty before half time and Paul & Thomas McCann in the last 15.

If Casements couldn't win this game at home with that many players not starting they have not got a mission in the championship. Totally failed this evening. No other way if dressing it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 28, 2023, 10:58:39 PM
Am I right in saying cargin replaced Jamie gribben with Tomas McCann and then replaced James Laverty with Sean O'Neill now that's a quality bench.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2023, 11:04:56 PM
Ulster title incoming
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ned on June 28, 2023, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 28, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
Glenravel promoted from Div 2

Long time in the wilderness.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 28, 2023, 11:15:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2023, 11:04:56 PM
Ulster title incoming


Take care of Antrim first as the great st galls knew
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on June 29, 2023, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: ned on June 28, 2023, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 28, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
Glenravel promoted from Div 2

Long time in the wilderness.

They do well to stay in D1, fair play to them though,  didn't see them winning the league this year,  they can enjoy the celebrations. When was the last time they where in D1?

D1 tight at the bottom, St Galls in bother? When was the last  time they where out of the top.division?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2023, 07:03:50 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 29, 2023, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: ned on June 28, 2023, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 28, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
Glenravel promoted from Div 2

Long time in the wilderness.

They do well to stay in D1, fair play to them though,  didn't see them winning the league this year,  they can enjoy the celebrations. When was the last time they where in D1?

D1 tight at the bottom, St Galls in bother? When was the last  time they where out of the top.division?

The year before they won the senior championship.

If we are relegated that's where we should be based on results, no club has a divine right to stay up based on tradition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 29, 2023, 07:36:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2023, 07:03:50 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on June 29, 2023, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: ned on June 28, 2023, 11:07:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 28, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
Glenravel promoted from Div 2

Long time in the wilderness.

They do well to stay in D1, fair play to them though,  didn't see them winning the league this year,  they can enjoy the celebrations. When was the last time they where in D1?

D1 tight at the bottom, St Galls in bother? When was the last  time they where out of the top.division?

The year before they won the senior championship.

If we are relegated that's where we should be based on results, no club has a divine right to stay up based on tradition.
Relegated at end of 1999, got promoted end of 2000, won the senior championship in 2001, the rest is history
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 29, 2023, 08:05:55 AM
Are Dunloy down or is it just St Pats Lisburn ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2023, 08:48:33 AM
St Brigids and Rossa look a bit safer this morning too and have return of county panellists. Antrim football leagues have hot much more interesting, competitive matches throughout the year right to the very end. Glenravel have put in some work over this last decade and now get their reward, fair play to them. They've some great young players coming through and I think they will transition ok in top flight.

Ballymena really need to win the intermediate or Baker will be leaving All Saints with a massive sense of underachievement. All to play for in that regard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2023, 08:53:57 AM
Stewart and McAleer big losses for them BS but yeah I would agree on Baker..

Good question hoof - if 2 are going down from division one then do 2 go down from division two? Not sure dunloy in for a fun time in the senior championship but hopefully with all the hurlers back they can be more competitive.

Rossa have got quite a few back now which should help them. Moneyglass could maybe find themselves sucked in.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2023, 08:57:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2023, 08:53:57 AM
Stewart and McAleer big losses for them BS but yeah I would agree on Baker..

Good question hoof - if 2 are going down from division one then do 2 go down from division two? Not sure dunloy in for a fun time in the senior championship but hopefully with all the hurlers back they can be more competitive.

Rossa have got quite a few back now which should help them. Moneyglass could maybe find themselves sucked in.

We need to beat Moneyglass and hope St Johns have a misfiring day at Milltown for the last game!

The Johnnies would love nothing more to put us into Div 2 lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2023, 09:01:01 AM
You've 2 more games after johnnies...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2023, 09:05:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2023, 09:01:01 AM
You've 2 more games after johnnies...

Aye but if we don't win these then we are toast, can see St Endas winning their last 4 games, We have to beat Moneyglass and hope they don't win many after that. And we'd need to win one more game, hopefully that's the Johnnies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2023, 09:11:52 AM
You have moneyglass, st johns, st brigids and st endas to play. I would say you'll win two of those games.

St Endas won't win the last 4 games I would have thought. Yourselves or St Brigids will beat them.

Favourites for me randalstown and moneyglass to go...

That bottom 7 makes it very interesting - no dead rubber games really.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 29, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
We blew yet another lead last night to end up with a draw, probably a lucky one at that.

8 points up at one point in the first half, then changed tactics and went conservative, retaining possession, when St Galls were there to be put out of sight.

That extra point would have been very valuable.

It has been a season of poor decisions and missed opportunities and I fear the worst.

St Endas next week is a must win or we are gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 29, 2023, 10:20:35 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 29, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
We blew yet another lead last night to end up with a draw, probably a lucky one at that.

8 points up at one point in the first half, then changed tactics and went conservative, retaining possession, when St Galls were there to be put out of sight.

That extra point would have been very valuable.

It has been a season of poor decisions and missed opportunities and I fear the worst.

St Endas next week is a must win or we are gone.

Moneyglass are in a freefall at the minute.
But for a last minute goal by ahoghill in the last round pre split, they wouldve been top 6, now its hard to see where the next point is coming from.
2 home games left with saint Galls and St endas and away to Rossa.
Relegation would be a tough one to take after a promising first 12 games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on June 29, 2023, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 28, 2023, 09:52:02 PM
Hard game to assess. PG1 in control for long periods of first half, two goals in a couple of minutes from Cargin and they went in ahead at the break.

Cargin went four clear and PG1 claw that back to a one point lead with five minutes left, but a shoulder injury to Dermot McAleese with 15 to go left big void and Cargin, as they do, finished strong to keep league open.

As EOC says some of Cargins young guns are settling in and looking good, but PG1 will take positives and know that we are definitely thereabouts, regardless of who wins the league.
Can only judge who's thereabouts after the championship, when all teams all have all their players available. League very distorted from top to bottom for me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on June 29, 2023, 04:19:14 PM
Ahoghill would just love to spoil the league champs elect victory parade also I'd imagine 😊
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 29, 2023, 08:12:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 29, 2023, 08:05:55 AM
Are Dunloy down or is it just St Pats Lisburn ?
Bottom 2 relegated , 1 team promoted as outlined by All- Saints delegate in February
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 29, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
We blew yet another lead last night to end up with a draw, probably a lucky one at that.

8 points up at one point in the first half, then changed tactics and went conservative, retaining possession, when St Galls were there to be put out of sight.

That extra point would have been very valuable.

It has been a season of poor decisions and missed opportunities and I fear the worst.

St Endas next week is a must win or we are gone.


Sw yous 2-2 to 0 up after 10mins  , how did you lose that lead

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 30, 2023, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 29, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
We blew yet another lead last night to end up with a draw, probably a lucky one at that.

8 points up at one point in the first half, then changed tactics and went conservative, retaining possession, when St Galls were there to be put out of sight.

That extra point would have been very valuable.

It has been a season of poor decisions and missed opportunities and I fear the worst.

St Endas next week is a must win or we are gone.


Sw yous 2-2 to 0 up after 10mins  , how did you lose that lead


Same old story, get a lead and then panic and start to go side to side in our own half.

Gives the other team momentum and we lose ours and can't lift it again.

Too many times this season.

Our best performances have come from us being behind at half time and having to attack.

You would think they would see something behind that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on June 30, 2023, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 30, 2023, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 29, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
We blew yet another lead last night to end up with a draw, probably a lucky one at that.

8 points up at one point in the first half, then changed tactics and went conservative, retaining possession, when St Galls were there to be put out of sight.

That extra point would have been very valuable.

It has been a season of poor decisions and missed opportunities and I fear the worst.

St Endas next week is a must win or we are gone.


Sw yous 2-2 to 0 up after 10mins  , how did you lose that lead


Same old story, get a lead and then panic and start to go side to side in our own half.

Gives the other team momentum and we lose ours and can't lift it again.

Too many times this season.

Our best performances have come from us being behind at half time and having to attack.

You would think they would see something behind that.

Who is in charge of your lads this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 30, 2023, 10:09:03 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 29, 2023, 08:12:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 29, 2023, 08:05:55 AM
Are Dunloy down or is it just St Pats Lisburn ?
Bottom 2 relegated , 1 team promoted as outlined by All- Saints delegate in February

wonder would all saints be happy with that now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on June 30, 2023, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 30, 2023, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 30, 2023, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on June 29, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on June 29, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
We blew yet another lead last night to end up with a draw, probably a lucky one at that.

8 points up at one point in the first half, then changed tactics and went conservative, retaining possession, when St Galls were there to be put out of sight.

That extra point would have been very valuable.

It has been a season of poor decisions and missed opportunities and I fear the worst.

St Endas next week is a must win or we are gone.


Sw yous 2-2 to 0 up after 10mins  , how did you lose that lead


Same old story, get a lead and then panic and start to go side to side in our own half.

Gives the other team momentum and we lose ours and can't lift it again.

Too many times this season.

Our best performances have come from us being behind at half time and having to attack.

You would think they would see something behind that.

Who is in charge of your lads this year?

The fella from Tyrone that was in charge walked away, didn't like that most players were dual and weren't giving 100% commitment to football.

So a few from the club have stepped in and are giving their all so can't be faulted.

Would rather not name names to be fair to them but I'm sure most would recognise them on the sideline.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 10:19:08 AM
Some clubs now regretting that they voted to get rid of the Relegation play offs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2023, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 10:19:08 AM
Some clubs now regretting that they voted to get rid of the Relegation play offs.

If the county is going down the road of players not being available for clubs then play off for winning the league and relegation is the way forward, it might even encourage players from clubs to play for the county instead of just committing to club.

The play off would have a championship feel at the end and generate plenty of neutral interest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on June 30, 2023, 01:22:18 PM
Imagine a scenario with group of four - bottom two and top two division below, in straight three game each shootout. Top two go/stay up.

And all clubs (as MR says) have county players back, at least its a bit of added assurance for clubs. Not to mention gate receipts. 6 games, each club has three. AvB, AvC, AvD, BvC, BvD & CvD. Would be pretty sure of £15 - £20k of additional revenue, which could go to county development squads!

Talking of gate receipts, Tyrone have a proper  final between top two in the league, and some years 10k people attend.

And on that note, how come league matters more in Tyrone than in Antrim where there is a conception "its only the league". Think we are missing a bit if a trick here tbh, especially with it being much more competitive than in bygone days when it was dominated by 2 clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 02:06:42 PM
Div 2 league finished already...any idea why so early? Some clubs played 4 games in 10 days.

Clubs waiting 4 weeks before Championship starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on June 30, 2023, 03:49:12 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 10:19:08 AM
Some clubs now regretting that they voted to get rid of the Relegation play offs.

The CCC planned on one team being relegated from Div 1 and no one promoted from Div 2., same for Div 2 & 3!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on June 30, 2023, 04:35:11 PM
Leagues are indeed for playing in says the old adage....and such was most fitting this year with clubs fielding without their county players......had negative impact on more than a few clubs...

Cargin used to endure negative comment for winning league titles...such lesson well taught.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2023, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 30, 2023, 03:49:12 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 10:19:08 AM
Some clubs now regretting that they voted to get rid of the Relegation play offs.

The CCC planned on one team being relegated from Div 1 and no one promoted from Div 2., same for Div 2 & 3!

That would have been an exciting division 2 !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 30, 2023, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 02:06:42 PM
Div 2 league finished already...any idea why so early? Some clubs played 4 games in 10 days.

Clubs waiting 4 weeks before Championship starts.


12 team league with a split so fewer games to be played.

Fixtures were well spread out.

Maybe a wee bit of a build up before split and for some reason clubs appear to have been allowed to then fulfil pre split fixtures after.

Who had to play 4 games in 10 days?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 30, 2023, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 30, 2023, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 30, 2023, 02:06:42 PM
Div 2 league finished already...any idea why so early? Some clubs played 4 games in 10 days.

Clubs waiting 4 weeks before Championship starts.


12 team league with a split so fewer games to be played.

Fixtures were well spread out.

Maybe a wee bit of a build up before split and for some reason clubs appear to have been allowed to then fulfil pre split fixtures after.

Who had to play 4 games in 10 days?

Only Aldergrove and sarsfields
They had an outstanding fixture from earlier in the season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2023, 06:00:59 PM
A good manager will use that time to prepare for championship, get the boggles sorted out, long term injuries assessed and fit, challenge games and training weekend arranged.

Players will hardly be idle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on June 30, 2023, 06:07:44 PM
Yeah just back over the league there and Sarsfields did indeed play 4 games in 11 days (not 10) which is a tight enough ask with hurling fixed in between. Think it was not going to affect outcome in either code for them and relegation from Div 2 football was pretty much locked in by then.

So only opponent to potentially benefit from a burdened team would have been Aldergrove who are single code and were still in the hunt for the title at that stage.  And while Aldergrove  had 4 games fixed in that time they appear to have been awarded a walk over in one of them.  But didn't end up mattering.

But the answer regarding the schedule is that there were fewer games to be played in Div 2.

I think if I were playing I would have preferred a bit of a break now before Championship.  Get the holiday fitted in now and then back and at it in a couple of weeks preparing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 05, 2023, 02:09:47 PM
Div 1 predictions:

EOC v LD- Home win by 7
Ahoghill v PG1- Draw
Aghagallon Creggan- Away win by 2
Naomh Eanna v Whitehill- Away win by 1
Moneyglass v Naomh Gall- Draw
Naomg Eoiv v Naomh Brid- Away win by 10

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
Moneyglass and st galls a tight one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 05, 2023, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 05, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
Moneyglass and st galls a tight one.

St galls pulled away at the end, scored 5 unanswered points to win by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2023, 09:45:47 PM
Big win for randalstown. St brigids and st endas look favourites now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 05, 2023, 10:03:49 PM
If Creggan beat Portglenone on Sunday and Cargin beat Ahoghill do Cargin win the league?

Still 3 games to go for the drop but Moneyglass and St Enda's looking favourites to go down right now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on July 05, 2023, 10:15:57 PM
Is it head to head or score difference top and bottom?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mickey Linden on July 05, 2023, 10:46:53 PM
Is the championship in Antrim not a bit of a formality this year? A mate of mine was telling me PG1 are 4/6 to win Antrim and only 9/2 for ulster. Seems short to me. Kilcoo and Glenn wont be easy beat
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 05, 2023, 10:48:08 PM
Head to head,Creggan won't lay a glove on the bannsiders unfortunately so we move on the the serious stuff now next four weeks.lamh dhearg could have threw in the towel tonight at half time but fair play made a good go at it second half ended up a good finish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 05, 2023, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 05, 2023, 10:48:08 PM
Head to head,Creggan won't lay a glove on the bannsiders unfortunately so we move on the the serious stuff now next four weeks.lamh dhearg could have threw in the towel tonight at half time but fair play made a good go at it second half ended up a good finish.
[/quoteWe are down,TNN hammered us tonight,,3 away games left,Im sure Ahoghill won't lay a glove on Cargin either EOC lol,me thinking you're playing mind games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 05, 2023, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on July 05, 2023, 10:46:53 PM
Is the championship in Antrim not a bit of a formality this year? A mate of mine was telling me PG1 are 4/6 to win Antrim and only 9/2 for ulster. Seems short to me. Kilcoo and Glenn wont be easy beat


I take it you are looking click bait?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 05, 2023, 11:38:19 PM
Seriously, who gives a toss what anyone here thinks! Plenty here didn't even recognise PG1 as a top 6 club only two years back, now we are in people's heads. If we win a game of football on Sunday we win a first ever league title. If we don't we keep on building. As I say,  there's a better generation coming through. It's all hard work though, theres no short cuts.

EOC is right, cship the big one. Team that wins that can rightly claim to be the big dog for next 12 months. And we all know who's the hottest of favourites for that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2023, 12:00:53 AM
Do Cargin need to win by 40 points?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 06, 2023, 08:35:46 AM
If Casements get at least one point (draw) on Sinday we win the Eddie Fitz. If Creggan beat us, and Cargin beat Ahoghill, it's Cargins title on head to head rule.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2023, 08:42:11 AM
That's a set up that one winner is guaranteed. I suppose it was a good season BS all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 06, 2023, 09:21:05 AM
Well done to portglenone, most consistent team throughout the league season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 06, 2023, 09:35:07 AM
Honest question, is there genuine resentment towards Portglenone club and for what reason? Or is it just to wind up Bannside?
As an outsider they seem to be a decent club who have made big progress in the last few years and try to do things the right way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 06, 2023, 09:38:31 AM
It must be to wind up BS.
Casements deserve alot of credit. In an area where for a time keeping the game going was difficult. As a club they have worked together to improve their facilities and underage. A successful Gaa self help model. I for one hope they cross the line and get their first first senior title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2023, 09:39:04 AM
There's a lot of shit stirring goes on here from certain quarters - they're grand.

League not as important as championship but for teams who haven't won it before it's a big deal. It can be the starting point for teams winning and that's been the same for anyone down the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 06, 2023, 10:06:34 AM
+1

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2023, 09:39:04 AM
There's a lot of shit stirring goes on here from certain quarters - they're grand.

League not as important as championship but for teams who haven't won it before it's a big deal. It can be the starting point for teams winning and that's been the same for anyone down the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 06, 2023, 10:35:59 AM
Serious question, how is McDermott a senior ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 06, 2023, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

We are staring at the bottom of the heap, if some aul stagers are still knocking it out elsewhere then it's gotta work somewhere else lol!!

With other results going our way it's been a good night.

Still plenty to play for and no one is gone or safe just yet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

Those "old stagers" made a huge difference to them last week as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 06, 2023, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 06, 2023, 08:35:46 AM
If Casements get at least one point (draw) on Sinday we win the Eddie Fitz. If Creggan beat us, and Cargin beat Ahoghill, it's Cargins title on head to head rule.



Go all out for the draw 😊
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 01:38:35 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 06, 2023, 09:38:31 AM
It must be to wind up BS.
Casements deserve alot of credit. In an area where for a time keeping the game going was difficult. As a club they have worked together to improve their facilities and underage. A successful Gaa self help model. I for one hope they cross the line and get their first first senior title.

Is PG1 not a large nationalist town nowadays?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on July 06, 2023, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

Those "old stagers" made a huge difference to them last week as well.

who are these old stagers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on July 06, 2023, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

Those "old stagers" made a huge difference to them last week as well.

who are these old stagers

Niblock, Brady, Healy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 06, 2023, 02:04:45 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on July 06, 2023, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

Those "old stagers" made a huge difference to them last week as well.

who are these old stagers

Niblock, Brady, Healy
Good move, doing all they can to stay in Div1 until there young group are strong enough to stay up without them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on July 06, 2023, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

Those "old stagers" made a huge difference to them last week as well.

who are these old stagers

Niblock, Brady, Healy

Ah right, last week it was Kelly, O'Neill and Gallagher!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on July 06, 2023, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 06, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
was waiting on MR2 to come strolling on to the pitch last night in the second half.
There were a few "old stagers" introduced, maybe not up to scratch on the modern day S&C, but you know what, didnt look one bit out of place and got them over the line.

Those "old stagers" made a huge difference to them last week as well.

who are these old stagers

Niblock, Brady, Healy

Ah right, last week it was Kelly, O'Neill and Gallagher!


If they had of had the 6 on most of the year maybe their position would have been different
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 06, 2023, 03:48:08 PM
R st endas down ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2023, 03:50:37 PM
They've 2 games left. Not definitely but definitely in bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 06, 2023, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2023, 03:50:37 PM
They've 2 games left. Not definitely but definitely in bother.

They have 3 games left.

But the second last is away to Moneyglass who would also need the result as well to have a hope of staying up.

After Sunday things will be a lot clearer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 06, 2023, 10:48:14 PM
We've 3 games left,all away,so in all likelihood, we're div 2 bound
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 07, 2023, 08:47:05 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on July 06, 2023, 10:48:14 PM
We've 3 games left,all away,so in all likelihood, we're div 2 bound

Bad luck for the Hightown men if they edure relegation.....they had a good win over Cargin...with Peter Healy outstanding as was Eastwood.....they really missed the services of their 'county players..........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 07, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Incidents like the one in Cookstown last night show why comments like this are at best unwise

I didn't make the game on Wednesday due to family issues, however from speaking with a few in the town I believe McDermot was not too bad on Wednesday night, it was a game that got tight and had a bit of needle from the start from what I hear and he did well to contain it. I would not be his biggest fan either due to ills he has put on us in the past, however have a bit of wit and judge every game on its merits.

Interestingly I hear we kicked about 15 wides and I do not hear you calling out our players in relation to those.....................

Time for us all to take stock boys and have a good look at ourselves, that includes myself as I have been hard on MR2 and Toland in the past

Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 06, 2023, 10:35:59 AM
Serious question, how is McDermott a senior ref?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2023, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on July 07, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Incidents like the one in Cookstown last night show why comments like this are at best unwise

I didn't make the game on Wednesday due to family issues, however from speaking with a few in the town I believe McDermot was not too bad on Wednesday night, it was a game that got tight and had a bit of needle from the start from what I hear and he did well to contain it. I would not be his biggest fan either due to ills he has put on us in the past, however have a bit of wit and judge every game on its merits.

Interestingly I hear we kicked about 15 wides and I do not hear you calling out our players in relation to those.....................

Time for us all to take stock boys and have a good look at ourselves, that includes myself as I have been hard on MR2 and Toland in the past

Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 06, 2023, 10:35:59 AM
Serious question, how is McDermott a senior ref?

Here's the thing, and it's a personal view btw, I've no problems with passion, I've no problems with a player asking, I'll explain it, if I'm 'challenged' again it's moved forward. By the same token I've had some calls on reflection that, hmmm, maybe I could have blown or not blown, none of it is done on purpose or with malice. I really don't care who wins, it has no bearing on my day to day.


Most of the ref's are all ex players, supporters, managers, they know the craic, they are also human and make mistakes, when a player makes a mistake the manager does not start ranting at him or abuse him online, no, he goes over to him, encourages him to win the next ball and supports his next play.

The manager though or the coaches feel (not all by the way, some really decent coaches/managers out there) feels he needs to vent his frustrations at the ref, which could list a 100 phrases used in a game which just come out automatically regardless whether it's happened or not, the eyesight of some supporters is unreal from their position over 100 yards away to the refs position 5 yards away.

We are coming into the real deal part of the year, tight games with plenty at stake, preconceived views on ref's will always be there, but before you shout just take a few seconds, think about your actions, I wouldn't be surprised if there's not plenty of black cards for remonstrating with the ref and a few managers red carded and banned for few months.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2023, 06:30:18 PM
Well gone the Casements, year one, developing and system and style an approach and S&C year two silverware! Possible progress in the championship (final appearance) year three championship contenders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2023, 06:33:05 PM
Big result for st brigids. Also what a year the ladies county team is having. Moneyglass and at endas in bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 09, 2023, 06:54:56 PM
Congratulations to Casements on a first senior league title and also to their long suffering poster Bannside👏👏
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2023, 07:14:10 PM
I think mathematically speaking only St John's and Rossa are safe. However st enda's with that score difference and moneyglass with one game left are in a fairly precarious position.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2023, 07:28:12 PM
St endas playing moneyglass makes it a head melt too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2023, 07:56:37 PM
Some big point differences but head to heads will make it pointless?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 09, 2023, 11:37:44 PM
Just right Bannside, celebrate the good times. Congratulations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 09, 2023, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.


Good luck in the big stuff BS we welcome the chase 😊
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Flanker on July 09, 2023, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.
The poor PG1 cows

Won't be milked for a fortnight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 10, 2023, 12:20:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.

Maith sibh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 10, 2023, 08:34:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.

Congrats to all involved in PG1. A fine club with some fine members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 10, 2023, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2023, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on July 07, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Incidents like the one in Cookstown last night show why comments like this are at best unwise

I didn't make the game on Wednesday due to family issues, however from speaking with a few in the town I believe McDermot was not too bad on Wednesday night, it was a game that got tight and had a bit of needle from the start from what I hear and he did well to contain it. I would not be his biggest fan either due to ills he has put on us in the past, however have a bit of wit and judge every game on its merits.

Interestingly I hear we kicked about 15 wides and I do not hear you calling out our players in relation to those.....................

Time for us all to take stock boys and have a good look at ourselves, that includes myself as I have been hard on MR2 and Toland in the past

Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 06, 2023, 10:35:59 AM
Serious question, how is McDermott a senior ref?

Here's the thing, and it's a personal view btw, I've no problems with passion, I've no problems with a player asking, I'll explain it, if I'm 'challenged' again it's moved forward. By the same token I've had some calls on reflection that, hmmm, maybe I could have blown or not blown, none of it is done on purpose or with malice. I really don't care who wins, it has no bearing on my day to day.


Most of the ref's are all ex players, supporters, managers, they know the craic, they are also human and make mistakes, when a player makes a mistake the manager does not start ranting at him or abuse him online, no, he goes over to him, encourages him to win the next ball and supports his next play.

The manager though or the coaches feel (not all by the way, some really decent coaches/managers out there) feels he needs to vent his frustrations at the ref, which could list a 100 phrases used in a game which just come out automatically regardless whether it's happened or not, the eyesight of some supporters is unreal from their position over 100 yards away to the refs position 5 yards away.

We are coming into the real deal part of the year, tight games with plenty at stake, preconceived views on ref's will always be there, but before you shout just take a few seconds, think about your actions, I wouldn't be surprised if there's not plenty of black cards for remonstrating with the ref and a few managers red carded and banned for few months.

I totally understand where you are coming from, but when the motto is give respect get respect, lets just say you can't give when you don't get...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 10, 2023, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.
I will echo the congratulations to Portglenone. They made hay while the sun shone and claimed their first league title. Add this to efforts to improve at underage level and vastly improved facilities. The more clubs do this the better as the end result can only ever be an improved footballing county.
IMO the so called split season has changed the league, now if any team, and this goes for St Johns, Lamh Dhearg, St Brigids, Aghagallon and even St Endas along with Cargin Creggan etc, concentrate on the league, discreetly minimise players on County duties, it is likely they would claim a league title. This is not a dig just an observation. Just depends how much you want a league title and for some others this will also be an important step. I just hope it is not to the detriment of our improving county senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 10, 2023, 03:22:29 PM
It does look like a dig EOC, considering a few off your clubmen walkedoff the panel to concentrate on the push for a league,I just wish our men would've walked off it,and we might not be holding the league up ATM and basically relagated, congratulations to casements,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 10, 2023, 03:45:20 PM
Look, it's all mostly a bit of banter, and thanks all for the congratulations that have been offered. We never set out to win the league, to be honest John McKeever wanted to use the league to build a squad, make 25 players feel they have a part to play. Once we saw we had a fighting chance of winning it, yes there was a big charge these last few weeks to get over the line and get some kind of a monkey off our back.  But that was only a recent thing.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 10, 2023, 03:59:32 PM
Well done to Portglenone.  A Div 1 title is something any club would want. Best team in the league, so fair play.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 10, 2023, 04:00:30 PM
Well done to Portglenone. There's plenty of pots and pans to play for in the GAA which is part of the beauty of the sport as even those who don't reach particularly high levels can have an achievable target.

For club footballers in Antrim, Portglenone have won the second most important one in the county and that should be celebrated. They'll no doubt have aspirations of lifting the biggest of them all along with a couple of other clubs. It might not be this year or it might not be next but they'll feel it's more achievable having got over their latest barrier. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 10, 2023, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on July 10, 2023, 03:22:29 PM
It does look like a dig EOC, considering a few off your clubmen walkedoff the panel to concentrate on the push for a league,I just wish our men would've walked off it,and we might not be holding the league up ATM and basically relagated, congratulations to casements,
No definitely not a dig, thought I explained it well, not true about our lads leaving either for that reason. Sean in particular left as he was getting no minutes at all. Jamie was injured, and honestly don't know why Pat left it. Our boys go to win every game, sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't.
Looking forward to the rest of the season now and the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on July 10, 2023, 11:10:21 PM
Creggan or Aghagallon for the championship, honestly think it'll come from that 2,out off curiosity BS,has JMcK added to his management team this year ??Peter the Great and KMcG still there?? Btw congratulations on the win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 10, 2023, 11:26:23 PM
Cargin 5/2
Creggan 10/3
Portglenone 6/1
Lamh Dhearg 13/2
St Brigids 13/2
Aghagallon 15/2
St Johns 12/1
O Donovan Rossa 14/1
St Galls 16/1
Naomh Eanna 20/1
Dunloy 33/1
Tir Na Nog 50/1
Ahoghill 66/1
Moneyglass 100/1

Wouldn't argue too much with these odds from paddy power.

Cargin are still number 1.

If Creggan get their full team out they are number 2.

Portglenone obviously up there.

Lamh dhearg haven't gone away and could beat anyone on their day.

Aghagallon and St Brigids will be hard beat too.

The rest won't make it past the quarters.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 11, 2023, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2023, 07:20:13 PM
Randalstown playing the 2 teams that are safe is an advantage for them also.

I hope so.

Head to head with Moneyglass would give them a 1 point advantage.

So we need 2 points from the last 2 games to be safe, assuming Moneyglass beat St Endas in their last game.

If St Endas won it, then they go to St Galls with still a chance if we don't get a point at Rossa.

St Galls and St Brides just need to play out a draw in the next game to make both of them safe.

Still a lot to keep us interested in the bottom half for another week or two.

A good few of our lads are away on holidays this week so hopefully they don't land back the worse for wear!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 11, 2023, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: breakingball on July 10, 2023, 11:26:23 PM
Cargin 5/2
Creggan 10/3
Portglenone 6/1
Lamh Dhearg 13/2
St Brigids 13/2
Aghagallon 15/2
St Johns 12/1
O Donovan Rossa 14/1
St Galls 16/1
Naomh Eanna 20/1
Dunloy 33/1
Tir Na Nog 50/1
Ahoghill 66/1
Moneyglass 100/1

Wouldn't argue too much with these odds from paddy power.

Cargin are still number 1.

If Creggan get their full team out they are number 2.

Portglenone obviously up there.

Lamh dhearg haven't gone away and could beat anyone on their day.

Aghagallon and St Brigids will be hard beat too.

The rest won't make it past the quarters.

Now i know the bottom 3 wont win the championship, but not sure how are dunloy 33/1 !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2023, 12:10:33 PM
Not sure how aghagallon haven't got better odds either. Finalists last 2 years and some good wins in the league. They've 2 of the better forward in the county who missed a lot and now will be back. Definitely wouldn't put st brigids ahead of them or with Ryan Murray injured Lamh Dhearg either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
What's went wrong at st endas ? They seemed to be the big coming force just a few years back
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on July 11, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
Referees getting a lot of stink I see on SV instagram? are they that bad within the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 11, 2023, 01:56:02 PM
You're not going to draw attention or get the views if you run a headline "Antrim referees are doing grand".

Aghagallon look the value at 15/2 but the rest of the odds are thereabouts. Hard to see outside top half half a dozen on that list.

Ref, JMK has added Scotchy Hagan to his management team this year in a prominent role. Think I've only see KMG once but no doubt John has plans to escalate that pre championship. We are in a tough enough group, there's not a lot of room for error.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 11, 2023, 02:09:58 PM
Depends who Rossa get playing for them but they could win a few games. Few very handy players in their ranks too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2023, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on July 11, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
Referees getting a lot of stink I see on SV instagram? are they that bad within the county?

Tbh if the contributions to this forum are anything to go by then they're not worth paying any attention to.

Rossa always dangerous come championship. McGettigan, Walsh, Byrne and McEnhill at county plus the likes of Beatty. They'll compete better than they do in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 11, 2023, 02:37:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
What's went wrong at st endas ? They seemed to be the big coming force just a few years back
Michael Mc Namee,Kristan Healy,Eoghan Nagle transfers haven't helped Carl,take into account the 3 lads up with Andy,off course we were going to struggle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 11, 2023, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on July 11, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
Referees getting a lot of stink I see on SV instagram? are they that bad within the county?

What happened now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 11, 2023, 03:26:43 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on July 11, 2023, 02:37:06 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on July 11, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
What's went wrong at st endas ? They seemed to be the big coming force just a few years back
Michael Mc Namee,Kristan Healy,Eoghan Nagle transfers haven't helped Carl,take into account the 3 lads up with Andy,off course we were going to struggle

Where did they transfer to?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 11, 2023, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2023, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on July 11, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
Referees getting a lot of stink I see on SV instagram? are they that bad within the county?

Tbh if the contributions to this forum are anything to go by then they're not worth paying any attention to.

Rossa always dangerous come championship. McGettigan, Walsh, Byrne and McEnhill at county plus the likes of Beatty. They'll compete better than they do in the league.

Seriously , when was the last time they beat a fancied team ie Cargin or St Gallsin the past 20 yrs,  or even Creggan in the past 5/6 yrs  to get such kudos
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
I don't think they'll win or close but I don't think they would be far away from most teams. Tbh I find it hard to see Cargin beat this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 11, 2023, 05:53:50 PM


Where did they transfer to?
[/quote] Michael/Dublin, Kristan/London,Eoghan/Australia
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 11, 2023, 07:47:05 PM
Condolences and sympathy to all at St Agnes club and the Compston family especially, they lost a long time stalwart this week on the passing of Raymond Compston (senior). RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on July 19, 2023, 01:17:43 PM
big matches tonight, who is going down?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 19, 2023, 01:29:29 PM
Surprising lack of chat about tonight's games considering they will probably be the single biggest game of the season for at least 3 clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 19, 2023, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on July 19, 2023, 01:29:29 PM
Surprising lack of chat about tonight's games considering they will probably be the single biggest game of the season for at least 3 clubs

Any results?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2023, 09:08:47 PM
St Brigids st galls draw. Rossa were four up against randalstown late on. No idea on the other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 09:20:50 PM
Moneyglass St endas drew
Rossa beat Randalstown

I think as it stands st endas definitely down, even though 3 can finish on 13 they're head to head with Moneyglass is worse randalstown need a point against st johns to survive
A defeat puts them down and Moneyglass survive due to a better head to head of plus 1

I think !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2023, 10:10:16 PM
Our game was a strange one. For large parts Naomh Brid were on top, but we were 5-3 up at half time.

Second half it was level quick enough and then they went ahead before we levelled and then scored a goal to go three up but we were living off craps, they came back and chipped away to level it, they had 2 late distance frees to win it but missed, we'd three old lads playing, one aged 41!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffer963 on July 19, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Both MG and St Endas both down after tonites result? Even if St Endas win last game, Randalstown have better H2H and point difference. Table also currently has MG below Randalstown, I know they won a game a piece, does H2H point difference come into play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saffer963 on July 19, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Both MG and St Endas both down after tonites result? Even if St Endas win last game, Randalstown have better H2H and point difference. Table also currently has MG below Randalstown, I know they won a game a piece, does H2H point difference come into play?

Yeah I think so
1 win each
Mg won theirs by 3
Randalstown won theirs by 2

As I said earlier, I think
Will be open to correction on someone more up on the rules
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2023, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saffer963 on July 19, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Both MG and St Endas both down after tonites result? Even if St Endas win last game, Randalstown have better H2H and point difference. Table also currently has MG below Randalstown, I know they won a game a piece, does H2H point difference come into play?

Yeah I think so
1 win each
Mg won theirs by 3
Randalstown won theirs by 2

As I said earlier, I think
Will be open to correction on someone more up on the rules

If Moneyglass drop they'll be straight back up, as will St Endas, problem might be county players will opt to bring their club up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:52:00 PM
Don't know about that
Division 2 cut throat
A lot said that about GNM this season but they weren't close

I still think that because of the way it ended up, or who it ended up being, there won't be the 2 down 1 up as was supposed to be

Will be ridiculous if this is the case, but it happened in derry last year, rules changed at the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 19, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saffer963 on July 19, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Both MG and St Endas both down after tonites result? Even if St Endas win last game, Randalstown have better H2H and point difference. Table also currently has MG below Randalstown, I know they won a game a piece, does H2H point difference come into play?

Yeah I think so
1 win each
Mg won theirs by 3
Randalstown won theirs by 2

As I said earlier, I think
Will be open to correction on someone more up on the rules

TNN definitely need a point to pip MG as on  Head to Head , MG are ahead off TNN.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 20, 2023, 08:25:03 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 19, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saffer963 on July 19, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Both MG and St Endas both down after tonites result? Even if St Endas win last game, Randalstown have better H2H and point difference. Table also currently has MG below Randalstown, I know they won a game a piece, does H2H point difference come into play?

Yeah I think so
1 win each
Mg won theirs by 3
Randalstown won theirs by 2

As I said earlier, I think
Will be open to correction on someone more up on the rules

TNN definitely need a point to pip MG as on  Head to Head , MG are ahead off TNN.

Yep that is how I saw it last night.

MG are ahead of us in the H2H by 1 point.

They beat us by 3, we beat them by 2.

We missed two 45s in injury time, either one had gone over and we would have been safe.

Only ourselves to blame. Story of our season.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 08:52:05 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:52:00 PM
Don't know about that
Division 2 cut throat
A lot said that about GNM this season but they weren't close

I still think that because of the way it ended up, or who it ended up being, there won't be the 2 down 1 up as was supposed to be

Will be ridiculous if this is the case, but it happened in derry last year, rules changed at the end.

On what basis?

Any team going down will com back up if they are good enough.  It's that simple.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 09:25:58 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 20, 2023, 08:25:03 AM
Quote from: delgany on July 19, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 19, 2023, 10:36:53 PM
Quote from: Saffer963 on July 19, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Both MG and St Endas both down after tonites result? Even if St Endas win last game, Randalstown have better H2H and point difference. Table also currently has MG below Randalstown, I know they won a game a piece, does H2H point difference come into play?

Yeah I think so
1 win each
Mg won theirs by 3
Randalstown won theirs by 2

As I said earlier, I think
Will be open to correction on someone more up on the rules

TNN definitely need a point to pip MG as on  Head to Head , MG are ahead off TNN.

Yep that is how I saw it last night.

MG are ahead of us in the H2H by 1 point.

They beat us by 3, we beat them by 2.

We missed two 45s in injury time, either one had gone over and we would have been safe.

Only ourselves to blame. Story of our season.

Does H2H work like that? surely if both teams have beaten each other then it goes to score difference over the season, not H2H on their game against each other?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

That's bizarre, has that always been the case? Fine margins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on July 20, 2023, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

are St Endas down regardless of their result against St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on July 20, 2023, 10:46:10 AM
St.Endas seem to be in bad decline over past few years? It wasn't long ago that they were being talked up on winning a Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 10:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

That's bizarre, has that always been the case? Fine margins

Do you think?  If head to head why not aggregate?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:51:07 AM
Quote from: ck on July 20, 2023, 10:46:10 AM
St.Endas seem to be in bad decline over past few years? It wasn't long ago that they were being talked up on winning a Championship.

I think they are fine, they are defo a Div 1 team but injuries county commitments and while they don't have to many crossovers in teh hurling side of things it has impacts on training and availability of everyone.

I've seen them beat fancied teams with or go toe to toe with top teams. They also have plenty of youth coming through, just need to maximize their potential....

Having plenty coming through doesn't always equate to success though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 10:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

That's bizarre, has that always been the case? Fine margins

Do you think?  If head to head why not aggregate?

I thought it would be (logically) head to head, if they are even then move down to score difference over all, not head to head score difference between the two teams. Sounds off?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on July 20, 2023, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

are St Endas down regardless of their result against St Galls?

Pretty sure it is the case that both Moneyglass and TNN have the head to head on them meaning they can't avoid a bottom finish.

They are a club that have been doing loads of work and have travelled further than most in their development so I don't imagine they will stay down for long.

Like of Gorts are past their peak so a different case.  Plus Gorts could still have a sting in the tail come Championship where I believe their main focus has been this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 10:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
Head to head includes score difference between the teams.

Unless TNN take something at St John's they are gone along with St Endas.

That's bizarre, has that always been the case? Fine margins

Do you think?  If head to head why not aggregate?

I thought it would be (logically) head to head, if they are even then move down to score difference over all, not head to head score difference between the two teams. Sounds off?

Lol - you and me two different logics - for me logically head to head should go right to aggregate but can see arguments for both (and I hope I have not been feeding duff info this am 😀).  And let's face it there will be factors throughout the season that will work for or against teams.

I think what is most important is that clubs know at the start of the season what criteria they are playing to, from number promoted, relegated to tie breaker rules etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 20, 2023, 11:20:42 AM
Going by our performance last night v Rossa I don't think we'll get a result against the Johnnies so H2H will be inconsequential.

We nearly pulled it out of the fire with a lucky goal and the missed 45s at the end.

But even when Rossa were a man down to a black card, they were head and shoulders above us.

McEnhill had 2 men on him and still couldn't be stopped.

So much for hoping they knew they were safe and taking the foot off the gas!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 12:15:02 PM
Think you need something against St John's to avoid it going to head to head.

Big incentive though - take something from the game and safety ensured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 20, 2023, 01:42:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 10:51:07 AM
Quote from: ck on July 20, 2023, 10:46:10 AM
St.Endas seem to be in bad decline over past few years? It wasn't long ago that they were being talked up on winning a Championship.

I think they are fine, they are defo a Div 1 team but injuries county commitments and while they don't have to many crossovers in teh hurling side of things it has impacts on training and availability of everyone.

I've seen them beat fancied teams with or go toe to toe with top teams. They also have plenty of youth coming through, just need to maximize their potential....

Having plenty coming through doesn't always equate to success though

If you can't stay up without your county men you are not a div 1 team imo
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
With all teams in both leagues played 17 games, We'd be currently 7th, which is a fair reflection of where we are as a team these last few years, transition has been very slow, and while there are green shoots here and there, watching us play we are still very naive, was great to see some of the boys roving up and down the pitch last night, but that experience has allowed the team to stay up and gain some more experience.

Burnsy should/could be on the call up for Antrim next year, he's improving all the time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 02:00:03 PM
Not a top Div 1 team/squad I would say.

Fair few teams in the lower reaches whom losing a few county players and possibly a few more to U20 for a chunk could seriously dent what they field.

But on the flip if teams they are playing are similarly handicapped then maybe some balance exists.

Anyway, it's not something that is going to go away and this year is not unique in terms of impact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
With all teams in both leagues played 17 games, We'd be currently 7th, which is a fair reflection of where we are as a team these last few years, transition has been very slow, and while there are green shoots here and there, watching us play we are still very naive, was great to see some of the boys roving up and down the pitch last night, but that experience has allowed the team to stay up and gain some more experience.

Burnsy should/could be on the call up for Antrim next year, he's improving all the time

Is that not a bit creative given youse have played more games against the weaker teams than the like of Creggan and Ahoghill?

Though I see you have the head to head with Creggan factored in 😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 20, 2023, 02:17:59 PM
Although we drew last night,at least a couple off things stood out,MG should've got at least 4 gls on top off the 1 they scored,PT was brutal for both teams,pea must have been lost, we rely on frees and OE too much,should've been beat,but hearing we might just get over the line 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 20, 2023, 02:45:25 PM
I hear there are further developments after Moneyglass v St Endas last night.....St Endas might not be out of the picture after all if a players registration isn't by the book.

Might depend on how much St Endas are going to fight it but there is a bit of uncertainty.

Not that it makes any difference to TNN!

We still need a point either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 20, 2023, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
With all teams in both leagues played 17 games, We'd be currently 7th, which is a fair reflection of where we are as a team these last few years, transition has been very slow, and while there are green shoots here and there, watching us play we are still very naive, was great to see some of the boys roving up and down the pitch last night, but that experience has allowed the team to stay up and gain some more experience.

Burnsy should/could be on the call up for Antrim next year, he's improving all the time

Is that not a bit creative given youse have played more games against the weaker teams than the like of Creggan and Ahoghill?

Though I see you have the head to head with Creggan factored in 😀

Positive spin is good!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 20, 2023, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
With all teams in both leagues played 17 games, We'd be currently 7th, which is a fair reflection of where we are as a team these last few years, transition has been very slow, and while there are green shoots here and there, watching us play we are still very naive, was great to see some of the boys roving up and down the pitch last night, but that experience has allowed the team to stay up and gain some more experience.

Burnsy should/could be on the call up for Antrim next year, he's improving all the time

A win or a point on Sunday for st johns would put them 3rd then with your logic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 20, 2023, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
With all teams in both leagues played 17 games, We'd be currently 7th, which is a fair reflection of where we are as a team these last few years, transition has been very slow, and while there are green shoots here and there, watching us play we are still very naive, was great to see some of the boys roving up and down the pitch last night, but that experience has allowed the team to stay up and gain some more experience.

Burnsy should/could be on the call up for Antrim next year, he's improving all the time

A win or a point on Sunday for st johns would put them 3rd then with your logic

Only prize is first and not relegated lol! But the the Johnnies will have played a game more so only points now as same games played😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on July 20, 2023, 08:33:32 PM
Agree 100% on Niall Burns, definitely county standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 22, 2023, 06:53:55 PM
St Galls taking one for the county chairman today I see.

Did they send their u11s?

I take it if they steal the point off Moneyglass then that's them on 14 points?

Moneyglass would be down now and then if we get beat tomorrow that's us down with them.

Wonder will the Johnnies lay down like Galls did today.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2023, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 22, 2023, 06:53:55 PM
St Galls taking one for the county chairman today I see.

Did they send their u11s?

That's some score line! Carl will be happy with his old club  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 22, 2023, 07:49:07 PM
Steal a point from moneyglass ? Are at endas not already relegated looking at table
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2023, 08:02:15 PM
Dispute over eligibility of a moneyglass player in their game (I think).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 23, 2023, 08:21:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2023, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on July 22, 2023, 06:53:55 PM
St Galls taking one for the county chairman today I see.

Did they send their u11s?

That's some score line! Carl will be happy with his old club  ;)

And here's me believing Gall's were on the upward....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2023, 02:49:04 PM
Randalstown winning by nine 22 minutes into second half.

(Edit) in fact they just won by 9. That should mean the other dispute shouldn't matter as it's over one point. Shouldn't it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 23, 2023, 02:52:11 PM
Moneyglass and st endas down. Glenravel up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 23, 2023, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2023, 02:49:04 PM
Randalstown winning by nine 22 minutes into second half.

(Edit) in fact they just won by 9. That should mean the other dispute shouldn't matter as it's over one point. Shouldn't it?

Correct. The extra point will do no good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 23, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
Looking to do a project to mark the start of Antrim Football C'ship. I'd love one person from each of the Senior clubs involved (players/coaches/supporters) to answer a few questions on their clubs players, chances, predictions. They can remain anonymous so DM if interested or get me on Twitter/Facebook with the same user name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on July 24, 2023, 05:08:21 PM
Anyone aware if its tickets again for this year's championship?

Also, is Jerome Quinn on board again to stream games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on July 25, 2023, 11:25:00 AM
Is there an appeal from St.Endas about being relegated to division 2? is there a restructure of the leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on July 25, 2023, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on July 25, 2023, 11:25:00 AM
Is there an appeal from St.Endas about being relegated to division 2? is there a restructure of the leagues?

What would they be appealing? I think they were looking points from money glass game but it was a draw so would get them 1 extra point and they're still down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 25, 2023, 12:29:34 PM
I see that The Saffron Gael have made an appeal to clubs for financial support. This is a first class resource for GAA supporters within the county and shame on any club not giving it their support. The county board and the likes of SBF should be putting their full weight behind it too. Would be a massive loss to supporters if it were to become unsustainable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 25, 2023, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 25, 2023, 12:29:34 PM
I see that The Saffron Gael have made an appeal to clubs for financial support. This is a first class resource for GAA supporters within the county and shame on any club not giving it their support. The county board and the likes of SBF should be putting their full weight behind it too. Would be a massive loss to supporters if it were to become unsustainable.

There isn't a more deserving cause in Antrim GAA.

A lot of people don't really appreciate it enough but if it ever stopped, the loss would be immense.

Serious amount of work they put into it and they deserve greater recognition for their efforts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2023, 12:53:47 PM
Fantastic service and I dunno where you'd see the like of it elsewhere. Anyone here should give money to it if they can as well. I have in the past and must do so again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2023, 12:57:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2023, 12:53:47 PM
Fantastic service and I dunno where you'd see the like of it elsewhere. Anyone here should give money to it if they can as well. I have in the past and must do so again.

I'm trying to wrangle money from my company to generate local adverts via the SG pages, they have a serious amount of traffic during the peak times of the year and championship it really spikes.

So any local business should really take advantage of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 25, 2023, 01:08:59 PM
Surely if each club were allowed to donate one gate takings from a home league game a season to SG that would go a long way to helping them out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on July 25, 2023, 01:10:49 PM
Saw news about Ciara Ferry, who used to be a development officer with Antrim and played for St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2023, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 25, 2023, 01:10:49 PM
Saw news about Ciara Ferry, who used to be a development officer with Antrim and played for St Galls

Sad news for sure, she packed a serious amount of work into the GAA

condolences to her family.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2023, 09:09:09 PM
Who won Rossa and at brigids on Sunday? Was it played?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2023, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2023, 09:09:09 PM
Who won Rossa and at brigids on Sunday? Was it played?

Pitch unplayable
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2023, 09:51:23 PM
Ah - cheers. I guess doesn't matter enough so will remain unplayed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2023, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2023, 09:51:23 PM
Ah - cheers. I guess doesn't matter enough so will remain unplayed.

Would imagine so..

Though having games on the day of the hurling final shouldn't happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 26, 2023, 09:37:55 PM
I mentioned above a project I was going to work on for the Senior Football Championship.

I posted the first few profiles tonight on FB, Twitter and Instagram so I thought I would copy out the text parts and post them here for you to read.


St John's

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
At least reach the last eight of the competition.

Who is your key player?
Key players this year will be Pat McBride and Paudie Nugent.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Young Connor Hand and Conchur Adams will be breaking through this year.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Portglenone have had a great league campaign so watch them.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin will be hard to beat.


Rossa

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
To qualify out of the group.

Who is your key player?
Dominic McEnhill.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Ruairi Grant young half back has had a good league first year at senior level.

Is there a team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Us, Rossa.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Tough call I'm going for Portglenone to carry their league form into the championship.


Creggan

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Win it.

Who is your key player?
Conor Small.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Dominic McAteer.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
No.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin.


Moneyglass

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Quarter final stage. 

Who is your key player?
Tiernan McCormack.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Break through players would be again Tiernan (only 17) and Paul Duffin.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
St Galls could be a surprise team given they're in a group of three and have a good chance of making a quarter final and who knows from there...

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
I think the championship is very open... Portglenone and Cargin final for me with Portglenone just getting over the line!



I'm still looking people to answer those five questions for most of the other teams in the Senior Championship so if anyone wants to do it, send me a message. If someone supports a team from outside the senior championship, feel free to answer the questions for those teams as well and I'll add a post in as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2023, 10:02:45 PM
As much as I like discussing it's that time of year (thank f**k says most) to not talk about predictions

Hopefully this weekend provides a higher standard across all 3 championships and the reserves also

I hope we are discussing football (and hurling following week) rather than a couple of missed calls by the officials  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 26, 2023, 11:30:38 PM
Quote from: geezer on July 24, 2023, 05:08:21 PM
Anyone aware if its tickets again for this year's championship?

Also, is Jerome Quinn on board again to stream games?


See info on county fb tonight, all tickets, same as last 3 years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 26, 2023, 11:31:42 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on July 25, 2023, 01:08:59 PM
Surely if each club were allowed to donate one gate takings from a home league game a season to SG that would go a long way to helping them out


Think every club in Antrim already makes a donation to the lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 26, 2023, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 26, 2023, 09:37:55 PM
I mentioned above a project I was going to work on for the Senior Football Championship.

I posted the first few profiles tonight on FB, Twitter and Instagram so I thought I would copy out the text parts and post them here for you to read.


St John's

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
At least reach the last eight of the competition.

Who is your key player?
Key players this year will be Pat McBride and Paudie Nugent.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Young Connor Hand and Conchur Adams will be breaking through this year.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Portglenone have had a great league campaign so watch them.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin will be hard to beat.


Rossa

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
To qualify out of the group.

Who is your key player?
Dominic McEnhill.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Ruairi Grant young half back has had a good league first year at senior level.

Is there a team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Us, Rossa.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Tough call I'm going for Portglenone to carry their league form into the championship.


Creggan

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Win it.

Who is your key player?
Conor Small.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Dominic McAteer.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
No.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin.


Moneyglass

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Quarter final stage. 

Who is your key player?
Tiernan McCormack.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Break through players would be again Tiernan (only 17) and Paul Duffin.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
St Galls could be a surprise team given they're in a group of three and have a good chance of making a quarter final and who knows from there...

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
I think the championship is very open... Portglenone and Cargin final for me with Portglenone just getting over the line!



I'm still looking people to answer those five questions for most of the other teams in the Senior Championship so if anyone wants to do it, send me a message. If someone supports a team from outside the senior championship, feel free to answer the questions for those teams as well and I'll add a post in as well.


Where is this at?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on July 26, 2023, 11:37:18 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 20, 2023, 08:33:32 PM
Agree 100% on Niall Burns, definitely county standard.


Fine player Niall, expect to see him called up along with Tiernan MCCormick. Seriously young senior panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 27, 2023, 12:27:34 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on July 26, 2023, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 26, 2023, 09:37:55 PM
I mentioned above a project I was going to work on for the Senior Football Championship.

I posted the first few profiles tonight on FB, Twitter and Instagram so I thought I would copy out the text parts and post them here for you to read.


St John's

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
At least reach the last eight of the competition.

Who is your key player?
Key players this year will be Pat McBride and Paudie Nugent.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Young Connor Hand and Conchur Adams will be breaking through this year.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Portglenone have had a great league campaign so watch them.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin will be hard to beat.


Rossa

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
To qualify out of the group.

Who is your key player?
Dominic McEnhill.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Ruairi Grant young half back has had a good league first year at senior level.

Is there a team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Us, Rossa.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Tough call I'm going for Portglenone to carry their league form into the championship.


Creggan

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Win it.

Who is your key player?
Conor Small.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Dominic McAteer.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
No.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin.


Moneyglass

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Quarter final stage. 

Who is your key player?
Tiernan McCormack.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Break through players would be again Tiernan (only 17) and Paul Duffin.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
St Galls could be a surprise team given they're in a group of three and have a good chance of making a quarter final and who knows from there...

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
I think the championship is very open... Portglenone and Cargin final for me with Portglenone just getting over the line!



I'm still looking people to answer those five questions for most of the other teams in the Senior Championship so if anyone wants to do it, send me a message. If someone supports a team from outside the senior championship, feel free to answer the questions for those teams as well and I'll add a post in as well.


Where is this at?

They're on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook under my user name on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 27, 2023, 11:56:58 PM
Another 3 senior profiles and an intermediate one.

Randalstown

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
The main expectation for the championship for us would be improving on our performance from last year and hopefully picking up the points to proceed from the group stages and then take it from there.

Who is your key player?
We've many key players within our squad but I have been very impressed with Ryan "Musher" Crilly who has been playing some stuff this year.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
I think young Paul McCloskey can cause a breakthrough this championship. He has had a brilliant league campaign thus far and he'll be a handful for any team in the competition.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
The obvious answer would be St Brigids as we haven't seen them with their full team yet, they would be my surprise package this year.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
A toss up between Creggan and Cargin they've been the benchmark for the rest of the county in recent years and I expect one of them sides to come out on top. this year.


Portglenone

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
Tough group so one game at a time for us. Obviously reaching a county final would be another step forward after the heartbreak of the last couple of seasons.

Who is your key player?
Dermot McAleese and Niall McKeever.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Daniel McNicholl has had a great league campaign.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Rossa

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin are the team to beat and the standard setters.


St Brigid's

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
We would be disappointed to not make the semis.

Who is your key player?
Ronan Boyle.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Niall Duffy could breakthrough and be a starter for championship.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
I think Rossa could do well and surprise people.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
Cargin would always have to be favourites.


Glenravel

What are the minimum expectations for the Championship?
After last year, hopefully another final appearance but it's championship so who knows.

Who is your key player?
Ryan McQuillan or Eamon Fyfe.

Does your club have a player that you think could make a breakthrough in this Championship?
Yes, Eamon Ward is a great prospect.

Is there another team in the Championship that you think people might be surprised by?
Ardoyne.

If you don't win it, who do you think will?
More than likely Aldergrove.


Don't know if I'll manage to get any more or not. Messaged multiple people from each club but got ghosted which is obviously fair enough at this time of year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on July 29, 2023, 09:05:48 AM
Some big wins last night in some of the IFC games. Possibly more of the same tonight into SFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2023, 03:24:06 PM
I see the poor auld saffron voice got blocked by the county twitter account  ;D

Most games went to script last night. Probably be a while until the real stuff starts really. Ahoghill looked ld a decent game and randalstown put it up to the johnnies.

Aghagallon st brigids could be interesting with both having full teams out.would expect cargin, portglenone and Creggan to win the others.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2023, 06:08:53 PM
Portglenone and Creggan both getting it tight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 29, 2023, 06:50:07 PM
All to script bar st Brigids beating aghagallon. Cargin laying down a marker and the rest of the games tight enough. (I'm assuming Creggan won as I haven't seen an update since late on when they were ahead.)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 29, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Story of the opening round must be St Brigid's beating Aghagallon. First real test for them and passed it. Think, if I'm not mistaken, that could mean a potential Cargin vs Aghagallon QF if Cargin top their group and Aghagallon end up 2nd in their group.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on July 29, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 29, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Story of the opening round must be St Brigid's beating Aghagallon. First real test for them and passed it. Think, if I'm not mistaken, that could mean a potential Cargin vs Aghagallon QF if Cargin top their group and Aghagallon end up 2nd in their group.

There were a few ' beatings' dished out at Aghagallon !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 29, 2023, 10:44:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 29, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Story of the opening round must be St Brigid's beating Aghagallon. First real test for them and passed it. Think, if I'm not mistaken, that could mean a potential Cargin vs Aghagallon QF if Cargin top their group and Aghagallon end up 2nd in their group.

Yeah I think you're correct there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 29, 2023, 11:47:30 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 29, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 29, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Story of the opening round must be St Brigid's beating Aghagallon. First real test for them and passed it. Think, if I'm not mistaken, that could mean a potential Cargin vs Aghagallon QF if Cargin top their group and Aghagallon end up 2nd in their group.

There were a few ' beatings' dished out at Aghagallon !

By who
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on July 30, 2023, 12:32:06 AM
St brigids winning is not a shock. Unless you haven't a clue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on July 30, 2023, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 29, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 29, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Story of the opening round must be St Brigid's beating Aghagallon. First real test for them and passed it. Think, if I'm not mistaken, that could mean a potential Cargin vs Aghagallon QF if Cargin top their group and Aghagallon end up 2nd in their group.

There were a few ' beatings' dished out at Aghagallon !
Video circulating of a brawl at the end of that and looks like aghagallon didnt take defet well at all at all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on July 30, 2023, 01:43:52 PM
We were beat but can take a few positives out off it,I think we can take a pt or 2 in the remaining games against LD and the cloney men🤞,on the biddies/Aghagallon game,surely suspensions forth coming for both teams,but saying that there had been a nasty/sledging thing crept into the south belfast outfit  lately and the lavey contingent won't have lessened it any
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on July 30, 2023, 01:43:52 PM
We were beat but can take a few positives out off it,I think we can take a pt or 2 in the remaining games against LD and the cloney men🤞,on the biddies/Aghagallon game,surely suspensions forth coming for both teams,but saying that there had been a nasty/sledging thing crept into the south belfast outfit  lately and the lavey contingent won't have lessened it any
Have to agree with your last couple of sentences, they are a nasty outfit, However as you can see in the video clips the BT9ers have no bravery to back the bravado up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 30, 2023, 06:28:38 PM
Interesting take. Aghagallon had a mentor sent off and got a black card but you have a pop at NB. Pity the referee didn't have his own umpires and linesmen, might have helped. Maybe you could have travelled with him EOC and helped him out.

Good to see so many Antrim gaels at the big match today, always a great day out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 30, 2023, 06:28:38 PM
Interesting take. Aghagallon had a mentor sent off and got a black card but you have a pop at NB. Pity the referee didn't have his own umpires and linesmen, might have helped. Maybe you could have travelled with him EOC and helped him out.

Good to see so many Antrim gaels at the big match today, always a great day out.
Sorry Brendan couldn't make it I was up at our own game. Interesting you bring the referee into it was the bad behaviour his fault?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Defending referees? I'll hold ya to that ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 30, 2023, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on July 30, 2023, 06:28:38 PM
Interesting take. Aghagallon had a mentor sent off and got a black card but you have a pop at NB. Pity the referee didn't have his own umpires and linesmen, might have helped. Maybe you could have travelled with him EOC and helped him out.

Good to see so many Antrim gaels at the big match today, always a great day out.

How'd the Aggies do?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 06:48:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Defending referees? I'll hold ya to that ;D
Just found that comment extremely poor tbh not Eamonns fault I heard he reffed the game well yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on July 30, 2023, 06:54:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Defending referees? I'll hold ya to that ;D

But sure Cargin are always to blame......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2023, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 06:48:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Defending referees? I'll hold ya to that ;D
Just found that comment extremely poor tbh not Eamonns fault I heard he reffed the game well yesterday

Heard exactly the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 07:09:13 PM
Nasty outfit in one comment.

I found your comment extremely poor in another ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 30, 2023, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on July 30, 2023, 06:54:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Defending referees? I'll hold ya to that ;D

But sure Cargin are always to blame......

Definitely Cargin's fault. We went looking for someone to blame and found Cargin's name.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 07:09:13 PM
Nasty outfit in one comment.

I found your comment extremely poor in another ;D
Brendan's ridiculing our hard working referees but comment you on that sure 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 09:17:45 PM
 ;D Double you down on those double standards you have going on there.

(FYI you deleted the post where you called me a st brigids fanboy. I have no affiliation whatsoever to them. I just find it not in great taste calling a team a "nasty outfit".)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 09:17:45 PM
;D Double you down on those double standards you have going on there.

(FYI you deleted the post where you called me a st brigids fanboy. I have no affiliation whatsoever to them. I just find it not in great taste calling a team a "nasty outfit".)
I found them nasty the last two times we have played them. What's your problem with that fanboy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 09:34:27 PM
Fanboy  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 09:34:27 PM
Fanboy  ;D
That's a good one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on July 31, 2023, 08:27:09 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on July 30, 2023, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 07:09:13 PM
Nasty outfit in one comment.

I found your comment extremely poor in another ;D
Brendan's ridiculing our hard working referees but comment you on that sure 👍

Sorry? Where did I ridicule or criticise a referee? Not at all and wouldn't do so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 08:52:41 AM
How come Cathal McDermott was allowed to ref Cargin v Rossa when the club he represents is also in the group?

Surely there was plenty other games he could have done.

Didn't impact the game but just a point I thought should be made...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 09:02:44 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 08:52:41 AM
How come Cathal McDermott was allowed to ref Cargin v Rossa when the club he represents is also in the group?

Surely there was plenty other games he could have done.

Didn't impact the game but just a point I thought should be made...

Not discussing the game, how many referee's do we have? Does he not deserve to do senior games?

If we stretch your view, the referee's from clubs in the other groups shouldn't be doing certain games because if a team finishes 2nd or 1st that'll have an impact in the knockout games and he did that in the full knowledge of blah blah blah! Christ, there's clutching and there's you!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on July 31, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
So now you agree with Brendan and we can move on.
Cargin's young talent bedding into senior football seamlessly and the old guard still around.  Perfect mix.  They'll be too good for anything else out there unless they're somehow caught on a bad day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 09:11:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 09:02:44 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 08:52:41 AM
How come Cathal McDermott was allowed to ref Cargin v Rossa when the club he represents is also in the group?

Surely there was plenty other games he could have done.

Didn't impact the game but just a point I thought should be made...

Not discussing the game, how many referee's do we have? Does he not deserve to do senior games?

If we stretch your view, the referee's from clubs in the other groups shouldn't be doing certain games because if a team finishes 2nd or 1st that'll have an impact in the knockout games and he did that in the full knowledge of blah blah blah! Christ, there's clutching and there's you!

There is enough to ensure that ref's should not be officiating games where they could have an impact on their own club. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 31, 2023, 09:36:01 AM
Surely that will relay on what Eamonn puts in his report? I do hear however that a certain Aghagallon referee could be in a bit of bother for his behaviour and for the avoidance of doubt I do not mean Gregory Walsh

Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on July 31, 2023, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 31, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
So now you agree with Brendan and we can move on.
Cargin's young talent bedding into senior football seamlessly and the old guard still around.  Perfect mix.  They'll be too good for anything else out there unless they're somehow caught on a bad day.






I'd doubt that very much after one group game end of July
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2023, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 31, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
So now you agree with Brendan and we can move on.
Cargin's young talent bedding into senior football seamlessly and the old guard still around.  Perfect mix.  They'll be too good for anything else out there unless they're somehow caught on a bad day.

It's very hard to see Cargin being beaten. Creggan seem to have dropped a level and Portglenone while improving are probably a bit off Cargin's level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 31, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 31, 2023, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 31, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
So now you agree with Brendan and we can move on.
Cargin's young talent bedding into senior football seamlessly and the old guard still around.  Perfect mix.  They'll be too good for anything else out there unless they're somehow caught on a bad day.

It's very hard to see Cargin being beaten. Creggan seem to have dropped a level and Portglenone while improving are probably a bit off Cargin's level.

Should Cargin not be looking beyond Antrim by this stage. They've have a few runs in Ulster now and they should be pushing on.

Seems lads on here are just content with winning Antrim and having the bragging rights in a local Antrim context.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.

Not all officials are available, I was away, few others I know were away and games were staggered over the 2 days allowing more people to watch, in the last round of games I'd imagine we'll try and have linesmen and 4 umpires. But you could have 20 officials at a game and some people would never be happy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 10:43:48 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

True think anyone would agree with this except MR2.

Can't say anything about refs without him throwing the toys of the pram.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 31, 2023, 10:44:59 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

100% correct.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2023, 11:10:25 AM
Square peg into a round hole comes to mind.

If there is no officials available how can we have linesmen etc? and who would want to be an official when you read some sh1te posted on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best

No one isn't understanding anything, we are simply saying you should have them but you come back with typical smart remarks as per usual, can you not agree on something for once.
Would you not prefer all the help you can get?

Go to Owenbeg on a Saturday evening to watch a Derry SFC game and you'll have the whole work 4th official and all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 31, 2023, 11:23:25 AM
Class, championship season is here and the rows are starting ! On the pitch and on discussion board
Love this time of year !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best

No one isn't understanding anything, we are simply saying you should have them but you come back with typical smart remarks as per usual, can you not agree on something for once.
Would you not prefer all the help you can get?

Go to Owenbeg on a Saturday evening to watch a Derry SFC game and you'll have the whole work 4th official and all.

Move to Derry then, they probably have more referee's ffs! There's stupid and then you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 12:32:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best

No one isn't understanding anything, we are simply saying you should have them but you come back with typical smart remarks as per usual, can you not agree on something for once.
Would you not prefer all the help you can get?

Go to Owenbeg on a Saturday evening to watch a Derry SFC game and you'll have the whole work 4th official and all.

Move to Derry then, they probably have more referee's ffs! There's stupid and then you

There was 4 games on Saturday FOUR!!!! If they cant provide linesman there's something seriously wrong.
Turning to personal insults when you don't know what else to say  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 12:32:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best

No one isn't understanding anything, we are simply saying you should have them but you come back with typical smart remarks as per usual, can you not agree on something for once.
Would you not prefer all the help you can get?

Go to Owenbeg on a Saturday evening to watch a Derry SFC game and you'll have the whole work 4th official and all.

Move to Derry then, they probably have more referee's ffs! There's stupid and then you

There was 4 games on Saturday FOUR!!!! If they cant provide linesman there's something seriously wrong.
Turning to personal insults when you don't know what else to say  :-X :-X

You are good at the insults, I can go over them with you if you want?

As to more help, course we'd all love to get that help, no one said any different, people give up their free time to do officiate games they are not employed to do this, they ain't here for you and others just to have a pop at and question their integrity like you did earlier, your beef with the county completely makes most of your posts redundant.

When you engage with a decent debate on something I'll happily respond in a better manner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on July 31, 2023, 01:07:44 PM
This discussion all unfolded because Brendan said it would have helped the referee if he had linesmen and umpires with him (obviously it would) He also tried to push the blame to Aghagallon citing the fact they had a mentor carded. It would have helped more if your boys behaved themselves Brendan!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on July 31, 2023, 01:14:47 PM
MR2

Did you know before your game on Friday night that you wouldn't have linesmen appointed? Was surprised when they weren't appointed for Championship games. I know you had your 4 umpires and they were used well during the course of the game on Friday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 31, 2023, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 31, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 31, 2023, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 31, 2023, 09:10:16 AM
Quote from: EOC13 on July 31, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
It will be interesting to see if any suspensions handed out now or will it be brushed under the carpet
BT9 crew very mouthy and nasty is correct.
No linesmen at Rossa/Cargin game either McDermott reffed it well mostly and had his own umpires but it's a disgrace in a championship fixture not having linesmen in no other county would that happen maybe if games were staggered and not all at same time county would have more officials.
So now you agree with Brendan and we can move on.
Cargin's young talent bedding into senior football seamlessly and the old guard still around.  Perfect mix.  They'll be too good for anything else out there unless they're somehow caught on a bad day.

It's very hard to see Cargin being beaten. Creggan seem to have dropped a level and Portglenone while improving are probably a bit off Cargin's level.

Should Cargin not be looking beyond Antrim by this stage. They've have a few runs in Ulster now and they should be pushing on.

Seems lads on here are just content with winning Antrim and having the bragging rights in a local Antrim context.

Absolutely,  no matter how many antrim titles they win,  they need to.progress in.ulster to be in the same conversation as those St Galls teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on July 31, 2023, 01:14:47 PM
MR2

Did you know before your game on Friday night that you wouldn't have linesmen appointed? Was surprised when they weren't appointed for Championship games. I know you had your 4 umpires and they were used well during the course of the game on Friday night.

Course we knew, we didn't have them always available last year in the group games, getting 4 umpires is difficult enough, they take some abuse too during the game and they must just turn the phone at times when I send them a message about the next game!

There will be linesmen I hope for the final rounds of the games, but linesmen will hardly stop lads getting tore into each other, that argument is thrown out loads of times and it holds no water.

I've a few holidays planned and so will others and some will only be doing league games due to the rules tests and so on, I think clubs want those who have passed the test at the very least, though going by some of the understanding of the rules by players it doesn't matter lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on July 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Out of interest, are there any rules in particular that seem to be commonly misunderstood by the players?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 12:32:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best

No one isn't understanding anything, we are simply saying you should have them but you come back with typical smart remarks as per usual, can you not agree on something for once.
Would you not prefer all the help you can get?

Go to Owenbeg on a Saturday evening to watch a Derry SFC game and you'll have the whole work 4th official and all.

Move to Derry then, they probably have more referee's ffs! There's stupid and then you

There was 4 games on Saturday FOUR!!!! If they cant provide linesman there's something seriously wrong.
Turning to personal insults when you don't know what else to say  :-X :-X

You are good at the insults, I can go over them with you if you want?

As to more help, course we'd all love to get that help, no one said any different, people give up their free time to do officiate games they are not employed to do this, they ain't here for you and others just to have a pop at and question their integrity like you did earlier, your beef with the county completely makes most of your posts redundant.

When you engage with a decent debate on something I'll happily respond in a better manner

People's opinions are wrong if they don't align with your own.

I've zero beef with the county board, You are quick to jump on peoples back talking about Ref's if its in anyway a negative manner, but yeah no comment or anything if they are praised.
We just said its abit strange having no lines man, and aw jesus we are the worst in the world.
What's a ref motto give respect get respect...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 12:32:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 31, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Lets be crystal clear on this, any championship game should have a ref with his umpires and two linesmen there to support him. It simply reflects and is poor administration.

We don't have them, its not difficult to understand, well it seems to be difficult but hey, sofa expert knows best

No one isn't understanding anything, we are simply saying you should have them but you come back with typical smart remarks as per usual, can you not agree on something for once.
Would you not prefer all the help you can get?

Go to Owenbeg on a Saturday evening to watch a Derry SFC game and you'll have the whole work 4th official and all.

Move to Derry then, they probably have more referee's ffs! There's stupid and then you

There was 4 games on Saturday FOUR!!!! If they cant provide linesman there's something seriously wrong.
Turning to personal insults when you don't know what else to say  :-X :-X

You are good at the insults, I can go over them with you if you want?

As to more help, course we'd all love to get that help, no one said any different, people give up their free time to do officiate games they are not employed to do this, they ain't here for you and others just to have a pop at and question their integrity like you did earlier, your beef with the county completely makes most of your posts redundant.

When you engage with a decent debate on something I'll happily respond in a better manner

People's opinions are wrong if they don't align with your own.

I've zero beef with the county board, You are quick to jump on peoples back talking about Ref's if its in anyway a negative manner, but yeah no comment or anything if they are praised.
We just said its abit strange having no lines man, and aw jesus we are the worst in the world.
What's a ref motto give respect get respect...

As I said and I'll repeat, you have thrown plenty of insults and question peoples integrity and ability, and you want me to give you respect? Honestly lad, wise up!

As for no beef with the county, go read back some of your posts. 

I'm responding to posts about ref's, should we just all stick the boot in and have no view point? My views though are not from a county board perspective, god knows I've had plenty to say about them over the years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Out of interest, are there any rules in particular that seem to be commonly misunderstood by the players?

I think players need to know how to tackle better, I don't know if its poor coaching or deliberate coaching. Slapping and pulling the hand, players seem to think they have done no wrong.

Football is too personal, the macho stuff is cringy and the shouting and ganching when people take a score or miss is pure shite!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on July 31, 2023, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Out of interest, are there any rules in particular that seem to be commonly misunderstood by the players?

Watching the All Ireland yesterday and it is apparent that players, even at the level the pundits played at, don't know many of the rules.

Maurice Deegan corrected them quite a few times on things they assumed were correct only to be told that the rule is actually different.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2023, 02:50:53 PM
Philly McMahon was very poor on the rules.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 02:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Out of interest, are there any rules in particular that seem to be commonly misunderstood by the players?

I think players need to know how to tackle better, I don't know if its poor coaching or deliberate coaching. Slapping and pulling the hand, players seem to think they have done no wrong.

Football is too personal, the macho stuff is cringy and the shouting and ganching when people take a score or miss is pure shite!

what is the official ruling of the square ball now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on July 31, 2023, 02:55:42 PM
You couldn't make it up, the man who spends his time on here giving the establishment, rule makers and ref a hard time asking what the square ball rule is  ;)

Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 02:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Out of interest, are there any rules in particular that seem to be commonly misunderstood by the players?

I think players need to know how to tackle better, I don't know if its poor coaching or deliberate coaching. Slapping and pulling the hand, players seem to think they have done no wrong.

Football is too personal, the macho stuff is cringy and the shouting and ganching when people take a score or miss is pure shite!

what is the official ruling of the square ball now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 02:56:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 31, 2023, 02:50:53 PM
Philly McMahon was very poor on the rules.

Oisin McConville was also very poor on his rules, in previous games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 03:00:08 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on July 31, 2023, 02:55:42 PM
You couldn't make it up, the man who spends his time on here giving the establishment, rule makers and ref a hard time asking what the square ball rule is  ;)

Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 02:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: Caesar on July 31, 2023, 01:50:45 PM
Out of interest, are there any rules in particular that seem to be commonly misunderstood by the players?

I think players need to know how to tackle better, I don't know if its poor coaching or deliberate coaching. Slapping and pulling the hand, players seem to think they have done no wrong.

Football is too personal, the macho stuff is cringy and the shouting and ganching when people take a score or miss is pure shite!

what is the official ruling of the square ball now?

If you have free time on your hands go through my posts there are as many posts praising refs as much as giving off one of them even being MR2  :-* :-*

Also got to make sure i know i am right when giving off   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on July 31, 2023, 03:54:30 PM
On the rules point, as a hurling follower, can someone explain how was the Kerry goal just before half time not a double bounce ? Does the fact that he didn't catch it again make the difference ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 03:59:59 PM
Whats the craic with that u19 league seems to be a complete shambles going by the county website?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on July 31, 2023, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on July 31, 2023, 03:59:59 PM
Whats the craic with that u19 league seems to be a complete shambles going by the county website?

Is anyone surprised? There is no need for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: podge on July 31, 2023, 03:54:30 PM
On the rules point, as a hurling follower, can someone explain how was the Kerry goal just before half time not a double bounce ? Does the fact that he didn't catch it again make the difference ?

Watching it through the phone on Sunday wasn't clear to me that he doubled bounced the ball, haven't seen a better view on it to give my view (for what  its worth lol) but Deegan I think gave a decent response to it.

But there was no gurning from the Dubs on the pitch where it happened, that generally gives you a good idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on July 31, 2023, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: podge on July 31, 2023, 03:54:30 PM
On the rules point, as a hurling follower, can someone explain how was the Kerry goal just before half time not a double bounce ? Does the fact that he didn't catch it again make the difference ?

From what Deegan said, when he drops/bounces the ball for the second time because he then kicks it back up into his hand it doesn't count as a bounce and therefore goal was good.

Funniest bit was Murphy not really understanding that and think they meant the ball actually bounced into his foot rather than the turf.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on July 31, 2023, 04:42:12 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 31, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
I'm content that the goal stood tbh as he did try to rectify it but I'm not sure where Deegan is reading that in the rules.
You aren't allowed to bounce the ball more than once consecutively. Geaney bounced it twice before kicking it up into his hands. By the actual rule he fouled the ball.
The second one wasn't a completed bounce because he didn't catch it. He realised halfway through the bounce that it would be a double bounce if he caught it so kicked it back up to himself. Just goes down as two separate possessions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 31, 2023, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 31, 2023, 04:47:39 PM
Again, no mention in the rules of catching it after the bounce.

Though, as I say, I'm content that it should be that.

Seems he didn't complete the full second bounce so he technically didn't bounce the ball a 2nd time.

There was no discussion on it by the officials on the field.

I wonder did he realise what was happening and flicked it up to himself again - if he did, fair play as it was very quick thinking and him in front of goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on July 31, 2023, 05:00:44 PM
It's no different to a hurler batting the sliotar off the ground and catching it again to give them another opportunity to play the ball. Bounced it without catching or dropped it or whatever, it just goes down as two separate possessions. Nothing to see here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on July 31, 2023, 05:22:03 PM
👍🏼
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2023, 06:07:14 PM
If not in 'possession' of the ball you can 'bounce' all the way down the pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
Tonight's Laverty Cup final has been cancelled on the morning of the match. What a farce of a county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 01, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Cancelled or postponed?

Laverty cup not a county thing...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 01, 2023, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 01, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Cancelled or postponed?

Laverty cup not a county thing...

South West U17
Between it and the U15 Breslin Cup its been a shambles
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 01, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Cancelled or postponed?

Laverty cup not a county thing...

Postponed because Creggan have a meaningless league game tomorrow night against Cargin. These dates have been known to a long time now. Creggan have obviously boys away and didn't want to play it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 01, 2023, 11:59:35 AM
Tir na nog are to play moneyglass on sunday in U17 football @12.00
Tir na nog are to play ballymena on sunday in U17 hurling @12.00

Something has to give there but wondering when/if the information will come
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 01, 2023, 12:10:36 PM
Who cancelled?

The TEAMS (or one team).

Why?

They don't want to play two nights in a row. Fair enough excuse. Dates are very tight for everything now with the new split season. Trying to make a story out of nothing here as per usual on this board.


Quote from: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
Tonight's Laverty Cup final has been cancelled on the morning of the match. What a farce of a county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 12:28:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 01, 2023, 11:59:35 AM
Tir na nog are to play moneyglass on sunday in U17 football @12.00
Tir na nog are to play ballymena on sunday in U17 hurling @12.00

Something has to give there but wondering when/if the information will come

looks like the football game has been a refix without the forward thinking of a clash of fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 01, 2023, 12:35:43 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
Tonight's Laverty Cup final has been cancelled on the morning of the match. What a farce of a county.

Is there even a SW county board anymore?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2023, 12:10:36 PM
Who cancelled?

The TEAMS (or one team).

Why?

They don't want to play two nights in a row. Fair enough excuse. Dates are very tight for everything now with the new split season. Trying to make a story out of nothing here as per usual on this board.


Quote from: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
Tonight's Laverty Cup final has been cancelled on the morning of the match. What a farce of a county.

Creggan asked to postpone the game the day before it was due to take place. The date has been in the diary for a long time now. They pulled out of a league game against us a number of weeks ago. So it's not like the league is an important competition for them, which is fine. From talking to a few up that direction it seems they have men injured and away and they are using the league game as an excuse to not play the final tonight. It's bad form cancelling a final on such short notice. One of our mentors came home early from holiday for it and another parent came home from working in England to watch his son.

The knock on affect now will be trying to find a date closer to championship time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
Tonight's Laverty Cup final has been cancelled on the morning of the match. What a farce of a county.

When John O' Boyle (RIP) was fixtures secretary in S West...a request for postponement was answered with the reply...Too bad, play or pack..'......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 02:28:29 PM
I thought the SW was a lovely bunch of friendly guys  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 01, 2023, 02:51:24 PM
It's very low key.  Didn't even know it was on in the first place.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 01, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.

Because up until last night's planned light session to prepare for the game, when it became apparent there weren't enough players available, the intention was to play the match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 01, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.

Because up until last night's planned light session to prepare for the game, when it became apparent there weren't enough players available, the intention was to play the match.
Injuries and hurling championship were the excuses used, shouldn't enter these competitions if you can't field in them all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 01, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.

Because up until last night's planned light session to prepare for the game, when it became apparent there weren't enough players available, the intention was to play the match.
Injuries and hurling championship were the excuses used, shouldn't enter these competitions if you can't field in them all.

I've not see a team that hasn't wanted an change time/date or failed to field in all my days..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 01, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.

Because up until last night's planned light session to prepare for the game, when it became apparent there weren't enough players available, the intention was to play the match.
Injuries and hurling championship were the excuses used, shouldn't enter these competitions if you can't field in them all.

Reserve football championship and inter hurling 3 days apart. Hard to fit it all into the calender but better timing is needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 01, 2023, 04:05:11 PM
There definitely seems to be a very high percentage of reserve games get called off. My own club had many games cancelled on us.

Hopefully something can be done to address whatever the problem is, because the absence of reserve football leaves a massive jump between minor football and senior football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 01, 2023, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 01, 2023, 04:05:11 PM
There definitely seems to be a very high percentage of reserve games get called off. My own club had many games cancelled on us.

Hopefully something can be done to address whatever the problem is, because the absence of reserve football leaves a massive jump between minor football and senior football.

The idea of playing reserve fixtures on same day (Sundays) as senior game, just doesnt work for a majority of clubs.Reserve Games on a Friday and leave them be. To be fair , CCC have tried U19 / U20 but buy in has been poor.
When minor moves back to U18, will help but Id suggest, final year minors are allowed to play Senior Reserves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 01, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.

Because up until last night's planned light session to prepare for the game, when it became apparent there weren't enough players available, the intention was to play the match.
Injuries and hurling championship were the excuses used, shouldn't enter these competitions if you can't field in them all.

Reserve football championship and inter hurling 3 days apart. Hard to fit it all into the calender but better timing is needed
So the poor fixture planner should look out in case Reserve football and intermediate hurling clash or aren't as close as 3 days apart? He's a human being not a supercomputer !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 01, 2023, 04:32:21 PM
Reserve should be separate players from senior. If you don't have 40+ footballers available on a regular basisthen don't enter 2 teams.

Maybe scrap reserve leagues, go back to division 1-5 and if your reserves are good enough for div3 so be it. All played at same time on same day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 01, 2023, 04:35:47 PM
It was a terrible decision to switch to U17.  I know a lot of lads left twiddling their thumbs - too young for Senior.  The U19 thing was an after thought. It's no surprise it's a flop.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 03:23:30 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 01, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 01, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
Poor for the players involved, but this stuff in common place in Antrim. Tir Na Nog have now pulled out of wed nights reserve champ game v Cargin citing injuries. Why even enter the competition, whole flock of young players itching for a game left with nothing.

Because up until last night's planned light session to prepare for the game, when it became apparent there weren't enough players available, the intention was to play the match.
Injuries and hurling championship were the excuses used, shouldn't enter these competitions if you can't field in them all.

Reserve football championship and inter hurling 3 days apart. Hard to fit it all into the calender but better timing is needed
So the poor fixture planner should look out in case Reserve football and intermediate hurling clash or aren't as close as 3 days apart? He's a human being not a supercomputer !

well its a major crossover of players. the same as say randalstown senior footballers to senior hurlers. If clubs have these big squads play reserve championship the same weekend the seniors play..then were into a referee debate. theres no right answer btw. possibly an earlier calender for reserve
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 01, 2023, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2023, 04:32:21 PM
Reserve should be separate players from senior. If you don't have 40+ footballers available on a regular basisthen don't enter 2 teams.

Maybe scrap reserve leagues, go back to division 1-5 and if your reserves are good enough for div3 so be it. All played at same time on same day.

This is how it should be, reserve league basically means nothing and its not fair on the lads who are training trying to push into a senior team playing in a league at the end of the day is not competitive.
Also doesn't mean clubs that don't have great numbers feel under pressure to field a reserve team   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 05:23:20 PM
Who agreed to change back to reserve and not keeping clubs second teams in lower divisions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 05:23:20 PM
Who agreed to change back to reserve and not keeping clubs second teams in lower divisions?

Our county in their wisdom called a halt to 2nd or indeed third teams playing in Championships...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 05:23:20 PM
Who agreed to change back to reserve and not keeping clubs second teams in lower divisions?

Our county in their wisdom called a halt to 2nd or indeed third teams playing in Championships...

I defo think that's not right, even though we won junior while having a senior team! But keeping the reserves in normal leagues I like..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 05:23:20 PM
Who agreed to change back to reserve and not keeping clubs second teams in lower divisions?

Our county in their wisdom called a halt to 2nd or indeed third teams playing in Championships...

I defo think that's not right, even though we won junior while having a senior team! But keeping the reserves in normal leagues I like..
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Cargin won a junior and two intermediate titles and the powers that be called a halt to 2nd and 3rd teams in junior or Intermediate championship.....
When was the last time 2nd or even third teams were involved in junior or Intermediate championships....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 01, 2023, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2023, 05:23:20 PM
Who agreed to change back to reserve and not keeping clubs second teams in lower divisions?

Our county in their wisdom called a halt to 2nd or indeed third teams playing in Championships...

I defo think that's not right, even though we won junior while having a senior team! But keeping the reserves in normal leagues I like..
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Cargin won a junior and two intermediate titles and the powers that be called a halt to 2nd and 3rd teams in junior or Intermediate championship.....
When was the last time 2nd or even third teams were involved in junior or Intermediate championships....??

Not sure but I was playing senior and part of management team of our junior hurlers when we beat McDermotts at Casement one year, we got to the final the following year and were promoted to div2 when our seniors were Div one, I'd imagine it was around that time it was hurling and football, guessing early 2000's ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 01, 2023, 09:40:29 PM
2002/2003 I think it was. After that it was stand alone reserve competitions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on August 02, 2023, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2023, 04:32:21 PM
Reserve should be separate players from senior. If you don't have 40+ footballers available on a regular basisthen don't enter 2 teams.

Maybe scrap reserve leagues, go back to division 1-5 and if your reserves are good enough for div3 so be it. All played at same time on same day.

wouldnt be enough referees for the one day ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 02, 2023, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 01, 2023, 12:10:36 PM
Who cancelled?

The TEAMS (or one team).

Why?

They don't want to play two nights in a row. Fair enough excuse. Dates are very tight for everything now with the new split season. Trying to make a story out of nothing here as per usual on this board.


Quote from: JimStynes on August 01, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
Tonight's Laverty Cup final has been cancelled on the morning of the match. What a farce of a county.

Apparently the important league game tonight between Cargin and Creggan U17s has been moved now too. So their lads would have been fine to play last night.
Why didn't they just come out last week and say, we have a load of lads injured and away and can we try reschedule ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 04, 2023, 10:11:47 PM
John Oboyle was the glue that stuck the Sw together, couldn't be replaced.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 04, 2023, 10:24:57 PM
Hearing that u18 down from next season will be run  by all county but reflect a regional system, ie. Div1 all county, Div1a city and div1b Sw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 05, 2023, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on August 04, 2023, 10:11:47 PM
John Oboyle was the glue that stuck the Sw together, couldn't be replaced.

Indeed when John was on Board games were played and all competitions proceeded as scheduled.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 05, 2023, 10:15:25 AM
I went to watch the u15 league decider on Thurs evening,St Brigid's v Pg1 as our lads play Pg1 in the championship,I have to say the fella Doherty and his understudy,I think it could be his brother or nephew who is along the line with him for Pg1 do some roaring and alot off it not encouraging,Pg1 must be stuck for coaches with these 2 balloons over them, ridiculous to say the least, I remember he wouldn't shake our managements hands when they got beat in the feile at our place earlier in the year,but congratulations to Pg1 winning the leagueanyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sonny Joe on August 05, 2023, 11:28:59 AM
Was brousing and came along this, so to summarise PG1 got bt in the feile final and alot of months later they won the league with the same management. Couldn I conclude that their management have improved their team. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 05, 2023, 12:42:43 PM
Some bull talked on here about u17 fixtures / who shouts along the line at u15 games. Every club works fixtures to suit themselves, no one doesn't do it. And everyone has the odd coach other teams don't like in their club. But bit harsh calling them balloons tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2023, 12:47:13 PM
I hear balloons at every game  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 05, 2023, 03:04:44 PM
The duo you mention G&T have delivered Casements first juvenile title, on the back of a county Og Sport last year. Loud yes, for some people that's arrogance, for others it's passion.

Owen Doherty can add these to a county under 21title he delivered a few years back, so in managerial terms he's going rightly! His son Oran is the star player in that under 15 team and has a very bright future ahead, almost certainly a Saffron senior in waiting. He is one of only a couple of players on this squad who move up next year, the rest are still underage.

The wingman you talk of is nephew Niall Kelly who managed Donaghmore to win the McLarnon Cup and All Ireland B college title. 

I wish we had a few more balloons like them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 05, 2023, 03:48:46 PM
Only my opinion BS,I too can be loud when involved with our youth,but to call it passion,I think you are wrong,flip sake you would've heard them at saintfield,alot off pressure to put on that young fella Bs as well saying he'll be a county senior,he's not even the best player on that team,but it's all about opinions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 05, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
By the way Sonny boy,GNM beat our lads in the final off the feile, Doherty lost the plot in the group stages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 05, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
Owen and Niall are cousins, not uncle nephew. Just saying lik
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 05, 2023, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 05, 2023, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on August 05, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
Owen and Niall are cousins, not uncle nephew. Just saying lik
Glad you cleared that up, it was central to the story.



And there answers why I came of this board. For what it's worth I feel owen goes OTT with the young fellas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rogercasement on August 05, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
Oh you can click on posts lol, I've your measure son. Why you so bothered by me? Think I know????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 08, 2023, 10:27:54 AM
Fellas just putting it out there,who would the top 6 refs in the county be,seeing we've the 2nd round off championship fixs coming up this weekend and how is say the ref who would get the finals in all grades picked
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 08, 2023, 10:31:27 AM
For what it's worth imo 1-D Mc Keown,2 K Parke, 3 C Mc Donald,4 E McAuley,5 S Laverty,6 R Matthews
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on August 08, 2023, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 08, 2023, 10:31:27 AM
For what it's worth imo 1-D Mc Keown,2 K Parke, 3 C Mc Donald,4 E McAuley,5 S Laverty,6 R Matthews

any ref that explains the reasoning for their decisioning, R Matthews particularly good at this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on August 08, 2023, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 08, 2023, 10:31:27 AM
For what it's worth imo 1-D Mc Keown,2 K Parke, 3 C Mc Donald,4 E McAuley,5 S Laverty,6 R Matthews

any ref that explains the reasoning for their decisioning, R Matthews particularly good at this

S Laverty and K Doherty Also very good at this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 08, 2023, 12:58:45 PM
Hearing that there will be suspensions from the Aghagallon St.Brigids Championship game. Anyone heard the detail?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 02:02:35 PM
Reserve championship a disgrace, Cargin have been handed a by into SF as their first two matches the teams couldn't field.
Strong reserve teams that know they can field every week should be at least given the option to enter the Junior championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 02:02:35 PM
Reserve championship a disgrace, Cargin have been handed a by into SF as their first two matches the teams couldn't field.
Strong reserve teams that know they can field every week should be at least given the option to enter the Junior championship.

Why? Cargin's seconds could win that every year. Intermediate would be their 'level' if it was allowed

It was scrapped early 2000's as reserve teams were winning it more regularly.

You'd not be saying that if you were a div4 team playing Junior championship and then come up against ungraded players which a hat full of senior championship medals, training at a different level and exposed to division one football

Same in hurling, Dunloy Cushendall Loughgiels second strings would be cleaning up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 02:02:35 PM
Reserve championship a disgrace, Cargin have been handed a by into SF as their first two matches the teams couldn't field.
Strong reserve teams that know they can field every week should be at least given the option to enter the Junior championship.

Why? Cargin's seconds could win that every year. Intermediate would be their 'level' if it was allowed

It was scrapped early 2000's as reserve teams were winning it more regularly.

You'd not be saying that if you were a div4 team playing Junior championship and then come up against ungraded players which a hat full of senior championship medals, training at a different level and exposed to division one football

Same in hurling, Dunloy Cushendall Loughgiels second strings would be cleaning up

Agree with you about winning but they should go into treated as every other team, if they win it progress to intermediate.

Just think the option should be there for them having 2 consecutive championship games called off is a joke. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 08, 2023, 02:02:35 PM
Reserve championship a disgrace, Cargin have been handed a by into SF as their first two matches the teams couldn't field.
Strong reserve teams that know they can field every week should be at least given the option to enter the Junior championship.

Why? Cargin's seconds could win that every year. Intermediate would be their 'level' if it was allowed

It was scrapped early 2000's as reserve teams were winning it more regularly.

You'd not be saying that if you were a div4 team playing Junior championship and then come up against ungraded players which a hat full of senior championship medals, training at a different level and exposed to division one football

Same in hurling, Dunloy Cushendall Loughgiels second strings would be cleaning up

Agree with you about winning but they should go into treated as every other team, if they win it progress to intermediate.

Just think the option should be there for them having 2 consecutive championship games called off is a joke.

And that's poor form in the clubs who have entered a team that's unable to play, but don't punish lesser clubs first team's opportunity to win an all county title.

Btw some players on the second teams this is their only chance of silverware but they are in a position that they could improve their ability and have a shot at senior..

But no way is Cargins seconds or even the Johnnies seconds be troubled by any of the teams at Junior level. Be a walk over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 02:24:19 PM
There has to be an alternative to reserves, it has become a joke over the course of 20 years. We're giving lads who leave minor and don't burst straight into their senior team absolutely no hope of meaningful football.
Even the name 'reserves' needs rebranded. What about a separate championship of a different name for the second team of one code clubs who are striving to improve?
St Johns no 'reserve' football team by the way, what a joke that is!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 02:36:41 PM
Reserves playing in all county league would give everyone more competative football, esp at the lower levels. It was done in Division 4 hurling last year. Boosted number of teams, So what if Cargin play in Division 2. The seniors wont be relegated so there wont be a clash.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 02:39:15 PM
In fact Moneyglass senior ladies and reserve team both play Antrim div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
Some good games this weekend, LD V PG1, St Endas v Ahoghill, Rossa v Johnnies. Can dunloy give St Galls a game?

Sarsfields v Gort will be spicy and All Saints v Aldergrove
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 02:24:19 PM
There has to be an alternative to reserves, it has become a joke over the course of 20 years. We're giving lads who leave minor and don't burst straight into their senior team absolutely no hope of meaningful football.
Even the name 'reserves' needs rebranded. What about a separate championship of a different name for the second team of one code clubs who are striving to improve?
St Johns no 'reserve' football team by the way, what a joke that is!!
Would there be enough single code clubs of a similar standard at reserve to make that worthwhile?
I imagine they are all SW? I'm sure SW board could arrange something like the Laverty Cup. Though even that is not without its problems.

aghagallon, cargin and portglenone. Round robin championship keep everyone happy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 04:01:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 02:24:19 PM
There has to be an alternative to reserves, it has become a joke over the course of 20 years. We're giving lads who leave minor and don't burst straight into their senior team absolutely no hope of meaningful football.
Even the name 'reserves' needs rebranded. What about a separate championship of a different name for the second team of one code clubs who are striving to improve?
St Johns no 'reserve' football team by the way, what a joke that is!!
Would there be enough single code clubs of a similar standard at reserve to make that worthwhile?
I imagine they are all SW? I'm sure SW board could arrange something like the Laverty Cup. Though even that is not without its problems.

aghagallon, cargin and portglenone. Round robin championship keep everyone happy
You are laughing but if that was the reserve competition,  add in creggan and st brigids it's way better than what's there now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 04:43:57 PM
one thing i have noticed. you get a good group of reserves, you win a league or championship. the group falls away after a while. there is little progression. especially if you have a good div 2 reserve side. it worked when doubled up with senior games, stand alone fridays, needs a major mix up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2023, 04:45:32 PM
If you look in a few other county threads reserve games seem to be dying a death there too. Generally the players who will get through to seniors from reserves will get through after a couple of years maximum you'd imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 04:57:53 PM
We lost umpteen amount of players who tried and failed to get on a senior team that was well established, players who'd won multiple minor and under 21 titles, cracking players who couldn't break into the championship team.

These players didn't even want to play reserve, I was in my mid 30's turning out for the reserves, when we'd lads who trained all year and waited to get a game from the bench!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 06:19:08 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 04:01:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 02:24:19 PM
There has to be an alternative to reserves, it has become a joke over the course of 20 years. We're giving lads who leave minor and don't burst straight into their senior team absolutely no hope of meaningful football.
Even the name 'reserves' needs rebranded. What about a separate championship of a different name for the second team of one code clubs who are striving to improve?
St Johns no 'reserve' football team by the way, what a joke that is!!
Would there be enough single code clubs of a similar standard at reserve to make that worthwhile?
I imagine they are all SW? I'm sure SW board could arrange something like the Laverty Cup. Though even that is not without its problems.

aghagallon, cargin and portglenone. Round robin championship keep everyone happy
You are laughing but if that was the reserve competition,  add in creggan and st brigids it's way better than what's there now.
It wouldn't be for one code clubs then.
Yeah but creggan and st brigids always field strong teams in reserve football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 08:53:39 PM
Though St Brigid's lost their reserve championship game to St Galls, who you aren't allowing into the competition.

Latta ballix.
Jesus you are hard work, I stated reserve football isn't working, I forgot about St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 08, 2023, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 09:18:29 PM
So, St Galls are in now meaning that only half the clubs are single code.

Why did you state that it was only for single code clubs if that wasn't really important? That's a bit odd.

I appreciate your frustration with how the current competition has panned out for Cargin. It's unfortunate.
Ignore all my comments from now on, thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 09, 2023, 07:47:48 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2023, 09:46:54 PM
Ok, you would prefer to post nonsense entirely unopposed. You go for it.
If you think it nonsense that someone suggests improving the football structures then we don't have much in common DII. By the way wheres that setting to delete all historical posts you use? The nonsense I talk I could do with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 09, 2023, 08:15:22 AM
Replace the term I used 'one code clubs' with 'clubs with strong senior and reserve teams'. My bad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 08:41:56 AM
The reserves or seconds competition has unfortunately been never at the forefront of the clubs, it suffers because the clubs senior team needs to dip into it to help with injuries, holidays, working commitments and so on, in the height of summer it's the most depleted team in the club.

It was, in my book as a player in both codes a great place to either retire from senior hurling and enjoy a decent enough standard of football, when we played the teams in all county football I think at one point along with Cargin we'd 3 teams in the leagues.

The divisional games on a Monday and Thursday also gave the reserves another game, you could end up playing 4 games a week if you were playing both.

Numbers have dropped after minor that's one issues also back in the day minors and under 16's all played senior if selected, that's taken a chuck of players away.

I don't know what the best plan would be, different time of year to run games or dedicate a day in the week away from senior games, but officiating them is a stretch only 7 days in a week, put them back into the leagues?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 09, 2023, 09:02:51 AM
Definitely think the reserve games need to be switched back to before the senior games. Lads on senior bench could play first half then 10mins in senior game. Plus crowd landing down for the senior game always caught the end of the senior game.

No one waits around until 3.45 on a Sunday to watch a reserve game & the senior who played 10mins doesn't want to play in the game either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 09, 2023, 09:40:32 AM
Where would the top reserve team sit at in ACFL ranks.(cargin at present) Serious question
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2023, 09:46:51 AM
Honestly not far off the lower tiers in division 1 I would say. Top of division 2 / lower part of division 1. (They have always been round that level I would say - won intermediate a few times when allowed in it)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 09, 2023, 09:52:47 AM
Our delegates reported back from a fixtures meeting earlier this season, Loughguile I think it was in hurling, and St Galls and possibly St Brigids in football wanted to take their reserve teams out of the reserve leagues and place them in Div 2 or 3. Chairman very vocal in not allowing it, and promised that the reserves would be a success this year and just to stick with it. We go around in circles every year and the last 50 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 09, 2023, 10:10:45 AM
The hurling is trickier imo. Div 1 reserves would more than likely be top end of division 2 chasing winning the league. I think Cargin reserves could potentially finish top half of Div 2 but wouldnt be in the mix for winning it esp with the knock on effect from county during the leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 09, 2023, 10:11:56 AM
A restructure would make our leagues more competative. There is too big of a gap between top of 2 and bottom and an even bigger gap between top of 3 and bottom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 10:20:32 AM
You can restructure all day long but you'll always have good teams and weaker teams in the leagues. The divisions are fine, teams just need to 'get better' or raise the standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 09, 2023, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 10:20:32 AM
You can restructure all day long but you'll always have good teams and weaker teams in the leagues. The divisions are fine, teams just need to 'get better' or raise the standard.

I disagree. I think as things stand its crying out for 4 divisions in football. 2 way league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 09, 2023, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 10:20:32 AM
You can restructure all day long but you'll always have good teams and weaker teams in the leagues. The divisions are fine, teams just need to 'get better' or raise the standard.

I disagree. I think as things stand its crying out for 4 divisions in football. 2 way league.

So div3 in football, last 5 teams go into div4 league and play each other twice. How will that improve them? There's competitive football and there's teams that are looking to improve, playing same standard will only keep the same standard.

Teams need to also look at improving their standards too but that'll come by playing better teams (imo)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
The Belfast teams are bringing biting to the equation anymore in either football or hurling.

Fill Div1 the top half of Div2 with SW clubs and let Belfast play amongst themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 12:07:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
The Belfast teams are bringing biting to the equation anymore in either football or hurling.

Fill Div1 the top half of Div2 with SW clubs and let Belfast play amongst themselves

Sure who would show the SW ones how to win Ulster ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 12:07:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
The Belfast teams are bringing biting to the equation anymore in either football or hurling.

Fill Div1 the top half of Div2 with SW clubs and let Belfast play amongst themselves

Sure who would show the SW ones how to win Ulster ;)


The south Derry wans 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 12:42:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2023, 12:07:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
The Belfast teams are bringing biting to the equation anymore in either football or hurling.

Fill Div1 the top half of Div2 with SW clubs and let Belfast play amongst themselves

Sure who would show the SW ones how to win Ulster ;)


The south Derry wans 😉

Hope that wasn't a dig at someone lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2023, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 09, 2023, 12:06:23 PM
You need to try different bait, paddyjohn.

If the ball is on the penalty spot then I'll kick it. No bait needed, just truth in that statement. Take it whatever way you want

😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 09, 2023, 04:19:57 PM
Art McCrory the Tyrone legendary manager has passed on, Rest in Peace.
Time for that all time classic story about him again Bannside  ;D never gets old
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 09, 2023, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 09, 2023, 04:19:57 PM
Art McCrory the Tyrone legendary manager has passed on, Rest in Peace.
Time for that all time classic story about him again Bannside  ;D never gets old

the one about yer man john joe  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 10, 2023, 08:38:52 AM
Is the group stage head to head or points difference?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 10, 2023, 09:19:25 AM
John Joe, now there is a legend... was talking to him a few weeks ago. LD motoring well, their second half display against Ahoghill coming from 8 down to win by 4 was very impressive. They will be feeling good about themselves now after a poor start to the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 10, 2023, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 10, 2023, 09:19:25 AM
John Joe, now there is a legend... was talking to him a few weeks ago. LD motoring well, their second half display against Ahoghill coming from 8 down to win by 4 was very impressive. They will be feeling good about themselves now after a poor start to the league.

Maybe a helping hand with something...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on August 10, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 10, 2023, 09:19:25 AM
John Joe, now there is a legend... was talking to him a few weeks ago. LD motoring well, their second half display against Ahoghill coming from 8 down to win by 4 was very impressive. They will be feeling good about themselves now after a poor start to the league.


Agh now BS, grasping at straws I think, LD for me a spent force
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 11, 2023, 11:17:32 AM
LD are certainly not a spent force. Still more than capable of getting a result against anyone on any given Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 11, 2023, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 10, 2023, 09:19:25 AM
John Joe, now there is a legend... was talking to him a few weeks ago. LD motoring well, their second half display against Ahoghill coming from 8 down to win by 4 was very impressive. They will be feeling good about themselves now after a poor start to the league.


Bum LD up and make it look like an impressive victory on Sunday it's all about perception with the wee ports you see 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 11, 2023, 11:25:42 PM
Wins tonight for Glenravel, Davitts, O'Donnells and Wolfe Tones. Wolfe Tones first Championship win so big well done to them.

There's some interesting games this weekend. In Intermediate Aldergrove and Ballymena should be decent with both fancying themselves for a good run.

Lamh Dhearg Vs Portglenone should be good, Rossa Vs St John's too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2023, 12:21:31 AM
Big win for Wolfe tones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2023, 12:44:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 12, 2023, 12:21:31 AM
Big win for Wolfe tones.

BC1 will be a happy man
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 12, 2023, 01:42:35 PM
Hearing a split in the Antrim referees after guessing St Paul's game last night! Paul's feeling hard done by
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2023, 08:16:31 PM
Is there a shock on the cards in st galls Dunloy??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 12, 2023, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 12, 2023, 08:16:31 PM
Is there a shock on the cards in st galls Dunloy??

Yes

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2023, 08:22:41 PM
Wow Dunloy win by one. Three team group so st galls out?!

Looks like Rossa beating johnnies so johnnies maybe heading for an early exit too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 12, 2023, 09:49:55 PM
What happened st galls? Are Dunloy not in div3 next year ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 12, 2023, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 12, 2023, 09:49:55 PM
What happened st galls? Are Dunloy not in div3 next year ?

They are but I'm guessing they had their hurlers playing tonight ? Which they haven't had all year

A quick check of the scorers and they had
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 12, 2023, 11:04:26 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 12, 2023, 09:49:55 PM
What happened st galls? Are Dunloy not in div3 next year ?

Dunloy at full strength are as far removed from a division 3 team as you will see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 12, 2023, 11:21:14 PM
Dunloy never a Div3 side when they are at full strength. Glenravel Div 1 next year and Dunloy Div 3, anybody who watched last years IFC final knows what Dunloy did to Glenravel.

Burn the hurls around Dunloy 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 12, 2023, 11:40:22 PM
Anyone up to speed on football matters don't see that as a shock, McTaggart in the Saffron Gael making it out to be some sort of David and Goliath situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 12, 2023, 11:48:30 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 12, 2023, 11:40:22 PM
Anyone up to speed on football matters don't see that as a shock, McTaggart in the Saffron Gael making it out to be some sort of David and Goliath situation.

McTaggart is an eejit though, Dunloy were 15/8 so not exactly massive outsiders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 12, 2023, 11:48:50 PM
St Galls are a team in transition, if Dunloy focused on football (like they did today) they are a division 1 team easily, so no shock for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 12, 2023, 11:57:54 PM
Looking forward to Portglenone v Lamh Dhearg tomorrow it could be a good battle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 13, 2023, 12:11:23 AM
Anyone got a scoreline for Aldergrove vs Ballymena tonight? Saw someone on Twitter say it was a draw but nothing on Antrim GAA yet?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2023, 12:14:14 AM
Don't think the server is working at times so scores don't get up loaded automatically, they have to be done via admin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 13, 2023, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2023, 12:14:14 AM
Don't think the server is working at times so scores don't get up loaded automatically, they have to be done via admin

Cheers. Found a report on Saffron Gael anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 13, 2023, 09:02:41 AM
Went to Crumlin to see Aldergrove and All Saints draw for the third time this year. Will feel like a loss for Ballymena who were 5 up with five minutes left. Seamus McGarry put on a proper display, could have scored ten points from play, some outrageous among them.

Everyone I talked too knew Dunloy were going up really fancying themselves and I know a few who have them in weekend accums.

Cargin first team qualified for the quarters, going well, will take good team to top them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 13, 2023, 11:26:19 AM
Went to the Rossa game,in what was a good enough game,Rossa deserved to win,as they say goals win games as Rossa only know from their game v the champs,and would say will make the quarters,Br had his moments but overall reffed it well,but I'm at today's games, ourselves v Ahoghill in a game that is must win,I think we couldn't ask for much more than a good ref(,might change after the game lol)but for the life off me I pity the other 4 teams with obviously 2 refs that are out off their depth to say the least at this level,how Roberts got a county final last year is beyond me,and Granda Jim swanning around the place as if he owns It,PT reffed us in the second last League game in MG,with both teams left scratching their heads to what they were witnessing with an umpire more focused on his phone,Antrim get your act together and get the best men for the job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 13, 2023, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 13, 2023, 11:26:19 AM
Went to the Rossa game,in what was a good enough game,Rossa deserved to win,as they say goals win games as Rossa only know from their game v the champs,and would say will make the quarters,Br had his moments but overall reffed it well,but I'm at today's games, ourselves v Ahoghill in a game that is must win,I think we couldn't ask for much more than a good ref(,might change after the game lol)but for the life off me I pity the other 4 teams with obviously 2 refs that are out off their depth to say the least at this level,how Roberts got a county final last year is beyond me,and Granda Jim swanning around the place as if he owns It,PT reffed us in the second last League game in MG,with both teams left scratching their heads to what they were witnessing with an umpire more focused on his phone,Antrim get your act together and get the best men for the job
Iv had the odd pop at a referee myself over the years but Jesus lad take a look at yourself with this post. Is it referees need to get their act together or is it your senior team?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 13, 2023, 12:48:20 PM
Funny I thought Roberts had a decent final bar maybe two big decisions which went again Cargin, penalty stonewall in first 5 mins and a push on Tomas back in the last few mins of normal time

As EOC says perhaps clean your own doorstep before you look at others G&T
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 13, 2023, 01:48:47 PM
Mad story in today's Sunday World.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 13, 2023, 05:44:55 PM
What was it?

Big enougb shock with LD winning today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 13, 2023, 06:12:57 PM
Will Casement's still be considered as championship contenders after today's reversal at Toome...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 13, 2023, 08:44:07 PM
You couldn't wait. Go ahead and fill your boots....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 13, 2023, 09:19:57 PM
Results from this weekend would suggest the senior Champ is wide open. Would that be the case or am I reading it wrong?
Creggan Rossa and LD can't be ruled out. Lavey in the mix too. Cargin still front runners? PG1 lose a game or two every year but will still be in the shake up. Wide open lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 13, 2023, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: ck on August 13, 2023, 09:19:57 PM
Results from this weekend would suggest the senior Champ is wide open. Would that be the case or am I reading it wrong?
Creggan Rossa and LD can't be ruled out. Lavey in the mix too. Cargin still front runners? PG1 lose a game or two every year but will still be in the shake up. Wide open lads.
Wide open for second, but Cargin are too good for everyone else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 13, 2023, 10:02:18 PM
Of course Cargin are up the R with the front runners loaded with experience and an extended youth based panel to call on.
Lamh Dearg are in the front row, not to rule out Aghagallon or indeed Creggan who are not to be dismissed....
PG1 endured set back today and am reminded just how difficult it is the add a senior championship to a league title.....
A lesson well delivered by St Galls.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 13, 2023, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 13, 2023, 09:54:55 PM
What is the quarter final draw?

A.  Winner Gp 1 v R/up Gp4
B.   Win Gp 2.  v  R/ up.  Gp 3
C.  Win  Gp 3. v.  R / up  Gp 2
D.   Win Gp 4. V.  R/up Gp 1

Semi- Finals.  A v D. & B v C

Winner on the day for Qtrs & Semis
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on August 13, 2023, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 13, 2023, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 13, 2023, 09:54:55 PM
What is the quarter final draw?

A.  Winner Gp 1 v R/up Gp4
B.   Win Gp 2.  v  R/ up.  Gp 3
C.  Win  Gp 3. v.  R / up  Gp 2
D.   Win Gp 4. V.  R/up Gp 1

Semi- Finals.  A v D. & B v C

Winner on the day for Qtrs & Semis

So not confirmed but probable:

A Cargin v Aghagallon/Moneyglass
B LD v Dunloy (Probable)
C Creggan v Portglenone/Endas (probable)
D Brigids v Rossa/Johns
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 06:59:39 AM
I brushed my doorstep yesterday afternoon after I done the dishes,everyone Is entitled to their opinion,K Doherty was superb 😊,and gold I think it will be us v creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 14, 2023, 08:42:26 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 06:59:39 AM
I brushed my doorstep yesterday afternoon after I done the dishes,everyone Is entitled to their opinion,K Doherty was superb 😊,and gold I think it will be us v creggan
So you are predicting Ahoghill to beat Portglenone and St Endas to beat LD away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 14, 2023, 09:20:32 AM
LD vs PG1 was a decent game but suspect both them teams would need to find another gear to seriously challenge Cargin or Creggan. Will PG1 be without the services of Niall Delargy and Dermot McAleese for long? Seemed to be missing a handful of others too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 14, 2023, 09:27:31 AM
On another interesting note, at the game yesterday a certain LD player (no prizes for guessing who) clearly struck his opponent off the ball as witnessed by many including the linesman. Blatant red card. To his credit, I was within earshot as Gerard Dougan relayed this to the referee who decided not to take any action.

I often see posts on this board about lack of umpires and support for referees which is fair enough, but what's the point if the referee is going to disregard their assistance?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 14, 2023, 09:50:59 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 14, 2023, 09:27:31 AM
On another interesting note, at the game yesterday a certain LD player (no prizes for guessing who) clearly struck his opponent off the ball as witnessed by many including the linesman. Blatant red card. To his credit, I was within earshot as Gerard Dougan relayed this to the referee who decided not to take any action.

I often see posts on this board about lack of umpires and support for referees which is fair enough, but what's the point if the referee is going to disregard their assistance?

Interesting point, sounds like a strange situation right enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2023, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: Caesar on August 14, 2023, 09:27:31 AM
On another interesting note, at the game yesterday a certain LD player (no prizes for guessing who) clearly struck his opponent off the ball as witnessed by many including the linesman. Blatant red card. To his credit, I was within earshot as Gerard Dougan relayed this to the referee who decided not to take any action.

I often see posts on this board about lack of umpires and support for referees which is fair enough, but what's the point if the referee is going to disregard their assistance?

Wasn't at the game, was it picked up on TV?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 14, 2023, 10:03:29 AM
I wouldn't write any team off yet it's too early.
Creggan are very quiet, their championship group has given them the time needed to pull together and for me they are Cargins biggest challengers. Shocks can happen but this is the likely final. Ld showed yesterday they are a championship team, probably bullied a naive Casements a bit yesterday which will be tough to swallow along the Bannside. But it's early days and all to play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 10:15:47 AM
Yes I think we will beat LD
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on August 14, 2023, 10:37:59 AM
Is it score difference or head to head in the group?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 12:11:20 PM
Has to be head to head
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 14, 2023, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week

Suppose you have got to be confident, but results say you guys have plenty to fear... :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 14, 2023, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week
Oh dear
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 14, 2023, 02:57:02 PM
Must have been a heavy night celebrating beating Ahogill to type this

Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 03:19:25 PM
Tea is my preferred beverage guys,Saturday week will tell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 14, 2023, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2023, 03:28:27 PM
You may well come away with the win but your post will still reflect very badly on you. Cesspit? Really?

True, he is one to talk after the abuse our players took from their support in a league game in hightown...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 14, 2023, 04:44:49 PM
Can't see it either G&T. Lamhs going through the gears nicely and will not exit this championship easily in my view. Power and pace where it matters, too much for us yesterday, although we were a bit lighter than usual.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 14, 2023, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 14, 2023, 04:44:49 PM
Can't see it either G&T. Lamhs going through the gears nicely and will not exit this championship easily in my view. Power and pace where it matters, too much for us yesterday, although we were a bit lighter than usual.


Ports slightly off it yesterday Lamhs impressive enough with PF back in middle look stronger ,good to see some sampling a shandy pre match also at the home of the champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 14, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
St Endas wont beat LD.

1/4 final predictions:

Creggan v PG1
LD v Dunloy
Cargin v Aghagallon
St Brides v Rossa
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 14, 2023, 10:45:59 PM
Excellent pint it was...certainly wasn't going for one post match EOC, lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 15, 2023, 06:38:00 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week
Cesspit lol   Taken relegation bad lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 15, 2023, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 15, 2023, 06:38:00 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week
Cesspit lol   Taken relegation bad lad

Who is in charge of St Endas this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 16, 2023, 08:20:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 15, 2023, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 15, 2023, 06:38:00 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 14, 2023, 01:34:13 PM
We've nothing to fear in Hannahstown,we won't be and never have been bullied in that cesspit,on our day we can beat anybody,roll on Saturday week
Cesspit lol   Taken relegation bad lad

Who is in charge of St Endas this year?
Carl Mc Caigue.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 16, 2023, 08:27:29 AM
No. Carl McCabe. Ex St Galls and Omagh. Good operator, but hands severely tied at St Endas, approx 7 players missing or unavailable since last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 10:03:09 AM
Is it just a given that nobody in St Endas will take a senior team ? Hurling or football ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:03 AM
I can understand why certain clubmen, well regarded and with plenty of playing and coaching experience would not take on a senior team within the their own club.

Have you ever tried it? Its the most poison chalice position, automatically your are falling out with people left right and center, barflies are questioning your selections and tactics, your training methods are up for debate and nowadays with the fecking groups chats players feel they need to express everything!!

You wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if you have any sense, but, if you are an 'outsider' you have no baggage, you don't hang about in the club, or have 'real' friends other than the staff you have helping you out, so not too bothered if Paddy thinks your a dick
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on August 16, 2023, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 10:03:09 AM
Is it just a given that nobody in St Endas will take a senior team ? Hurling or football ?
If you'd ever managed a Senior team you would know that players demand a certain level of credibility rightly or wrongly. We obviously don't have any members with 4 or 5 senior medals in their pocket and unfortunately thats what it takes to keep the modern player's ego in check for they always think they know better.  Its all well and good for the clubs with that history but mark my words it'll be the same for all  senior clubs in a year or 2. No-one is a prophet in their own land.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 10:31:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:03 AM
I can understand why certain clubmen, well regarded and with plenty of playing and coaching experience would not take on a senior team within the their own club.

Have you ever tried it? Its the most poison chalice position, automatically your are falling out with people left right and center, barflies are questioning your selections and tactics, your training methods are up for debate and nowadays with the fecking groups chats players feel they need to express everything!!

You wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if you have any sense, but, if you are an 'outsider' you have no baggage, you don't hang about in the club, or have 'real' friends other than the staff you have helping you out, so not too bothered if Paddy thinks your a dick

All you got to do is look at Lavey, that is a prime reason why no one would touch their own senior team with a pole!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 11:25:16 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 10:38:42 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 16, 2023, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 10:03:09 AM
Is it just a given that nobody in St Endas will take a senior team ? Hurling or football ?
If you'd ever managed a Senior team you would know that players demand a certain level of credibility rightly or wrongly. We obviously don't have any members with 4 or 5 senior medals in their pocket and unfortunately thats what it takes to keep the modern player's ego in check for they always think they know better.  Its all well and good for the clubs with that history but mark my words it'll be the same for all  senior clubs in a year or 2. No-one is a prophet in their own land.

It's mad that you can bring in people who don't have 4 or 5 senior medals in their pocket.
And your clubmen who don't have 4 or 5 senior medals in their pockets have no problem getting work elsewhere.

The points about prophet in your own land are valid but money is undoubtedly a significant motivating factor.
The point about managers from your own club managing elsewhere might be relevant in Derry or Tyrone but not much in Antrim apart from McNultys.
Looks to me like most if not all these managers are teachers by profession or else retired, hence they have a lot more expendable time (earlier daily finish and 2 months off in summer). Managing a team is obviously something they want to do in life and given the amount of time being given up they are then compensated for it (which generally wont happen if taking your own club). I'm assuming this is why they do it.
Honestly don't see a problem with it if no one at that current time within club is prepared to do it, what else can you do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffman on August 16, 2023, 11:27:40 AM
All valid points and very much understand them all

In the case of St Enda's who despite a poor football campaign with alot of their well known players not on teamsheets. I'd assume they want to be playing Div 1 and pushing in both codes.

Looking at former players how many of them played Div 1 in either code? Genuine question of anyone would have more knowledge but to me seems the obvious solution is to get managers who have experienced the top level?

Similarly if a club is regularly div 3/4 and wanting to progress up the divisions - obtain the services of a manager exposed to playing at a higher level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 16, 2023, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 10:12:03 AM
I can understand why certain clubmen, well regarded and with plenty of playing and coaching experience would not take on a senior team within the their own club.

Have you ever tried it? Its the most poison chalice position, automatically your are falling out with people left right and center, barflies are questioning your selections and tactics, your training methods are up for debate and nowadays with the fecking groups chats players feel they need to express everything!!

You wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if you have any sense, but, if you are an 'outsider' you have no baggage, you don't hang about in the club, or have 'real' friends other than the staff you have helping you out, so not too bothered if Paddy thinks your a dick

Agree 100%. Nail on the head.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 12:13:58 PM
I really don't think the 4/5 championship medals is necessary, players want a coach that is clued in, organised, fair and knows what he is at. Plenty of fellas with medals wouldn't have a clue where to start
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: saffman on August 16, 2023, 11:27:40 AM
All valid points and very much understand them all

In the case of St Enda's who despite a poor football campaign with alot of their well known players not on teamsheets. I'd assume they want to be playing Div 1 and pushing in both codes.

Looking at former players how many of them played Div 1 in either code? Genuine question of anyone would have more knowledge but to me seems the obvious solution is to get managers who have experienced the top level?

Similarly if a club is regularly div 3/4 and wanting to progress up the divisions - obtain the services of a manager exposed to playing at a higher level?

i agree, especially with this st endas example. They, not a long time ago were at the bottom of the pile of antrim hurling. Their marquee player then is still doing it in division 1 now. Until this crop possibly hang up the boots they possibly dont have anyone internal with the tools to take a team at that level / expectations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: saffman on August 16, 2023, 11:27:40 AM
All valid points and very much understand them all

In the case of St Enda's who despite a poor football campaign with alot of their well known players not on teamsheets. I'd assume they want to be playing Div 1 and pushing in both codes.

Looking at former players how many of them played Div 1 in either code? Genuine question of anyone would have more knowledge but to me seems the obvious solution is to get managers who have experienced the top level?

Similarly if a club is regularly div 3/4 and wanting to progress up the divisions - obtain the services of a manager exposed to playing at a higher level?

i agree, especially with this st endas example. They, not a long time ago were at the bottom of the pile of antrim hurling. Their marquee player then is still doing it in division 1 now. Until this crop possibly hang up the boots they possibly dont have anyone internal with the tools to take a team at that level / expectations
McNulty the Creggan manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: saffman on August 16, 2023, 11:27:40 AM
All valid points and very much understand them all

In the case of St Enda's who despite a poor football campaign with alot of their well known players not on teamsheets. I'd assume they want to be playing Div 1 and pushing in both codes.

Looking at former players how many of them played Div 1 in either code? Genuine question of anyone would have more knowledge but to me seems the obvious solution is to get managers who have experienced the top level?

Similarly if a club is regularly div 3/4 and wanting to progress up the divisions - obtain the services of a manager exposed to playing at a higher level?

i agree, especially with this st endas example. They, not a long time ago were at the bottom of the pile of antrim hurling. Their marquee player then is still doing it in division 1 now. Until this crop possibly hang up the boots they possibly dont have anyone internal with the tools to take a team at that level / expectations
McNulty the Creggan manager?

i was using hurling example
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: saffman on August 16, 2023, 11:27:40 AM
All valid points and very much understand them all

In the case of St Enda's who despite a poor football campaign with alot of their well known players not on teamsheets. I'd assume they want to be playing Div 1 and pushing in both codes.

Looking at former players how many of them played Div 1 in either code? Genuine question of anyone would have more knowledge but to me seems the obvious solution is to get managers who have experienced the top level?

Similarly if a club is regularly div 3/4 and wanting to progress up the divisions - obtain the services of a manager exposed to playing at a higher level?

i agree, especially with this st endas example. They, not a long time ago were at the bottom of the pile of antrim hurling. Their marquee player then is still doing it in division 1 now. Until this crop possibly hang up the boots they possibly dont have anyone internal with the tools to take a team at that level / expectations
McNulty the Creggan manager?

i was using hurling example
My mistake, must of thought as it was a football thread it was football :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 02:06:47 PM
Funny Whitehill this year went for the holygrail of the fancy outside name who was taking them one way, it took one of their own to come in and save them (just)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 02:42:31 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 02:06:47 PM
Funny Whitehill this year went for the holygrail of the fancy outside name who was taking them one way, it took one of their own to come in and save them (just)

Dont think we need to look beyond All Saints for an example of an outside big name flop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
All this depends on your view of success.

What is success...from where you finished the previous year.

If you finished 5th in league, getting to 3 rd and having a decent run in the championship would represent success to me.

Conversely, finishing 9th the previous year and hoping to get to win the league is not success.  People and clubs need to be realistic.

I've mentioned this before on here. Clubs need a 10 year plan, set achieveable and realistic goals - review it every year. Underage must be part of it also.

If a club (who finished 10th year before) bring in a managerment team, pay them say 10k and 'hope' they win the championship, more fool them.

They'll move off to a neighbouring club are two years and everybody will be back to square one. And repeat.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 03:35:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
All this depends on your view of success.

What is success...from where you finished the previous year.

If you finished 5th in league, getting to 3 rd and having a decent run in the championship would represent success to me.

Conversely, finishing 9th the previous year and hoping to get to win the league is not success.  People and clubs need to be realistic.

I've mentioned this before on here. Clubs need a 10 year plan, set achieveable and realistic goals - review it every year. Underage must be part of it also.

If a club (who finished 10th year before) bring in a managerment team, pay them say 10k and 'hope' they win the championship, more fool them.

They'll move off to a neighbouring club are two years and everybody will be back to square one. And repeat.

100 percent these teams should be putting that 10k into their youth structure, rather  than bringing outside managers in and hoping for things to happen.

To have a winning senior team you don't need a championship winning team at every level as long as you have a conveyor belt of 2/3 good players on every team to bring through.

The lack of structure in youth teams in the city at the moment is very poor outside of St Bridget's (but they do have about 60 children to pick from at every level).

In a wider county scale of things if we ever want to move forward in any shape at county level, more focus needs to be put into the youth especially up in the city. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Doing a lot of under age games and Naomh Brid (Belfast) seem to be doing rightly at underage lately as are St Paul's..

As mentioned taking your eye off the underage and channeling energies into senior only will only reduce the counties ability to get better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 04:32:07 PM
St galls were borderline a once in a lifetime team which skews everything...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 04:38:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 04:32:07 PM
St galls were borderline a once in a lifetime team which skews everything...

Our 82 83 teams played in successive Ulster club finals.... Its not a once in a life time team  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
Never won any all irelands though or  close...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
Never won any all irelands though or  close...

Injury time sucker goal lost in semifinal against one of the best teams never to win an All Ireland Clann naGael.. 2 up lost by one !!

But yes, that generational team that won the big prize was something else, but borne from hard work and huge input by many
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Doing a lot of under age games and Naomh Brid (Belfast) seem to be doing rightly at underage lately as are St Paul's..

As mentioned taking your eye off the underage and channeling energies into senior only will only reduce the counties ability to get better

GNM seem to be doing good work
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 05:01:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
Never won any all irelands though or  close...

Injury time sucker goal lost in semifinal against one of the best teams never to win an All Ireland Clann naGael.. 2 up lost by one !!

But yes, that generational team that won the big prize was something else, but borne from hard work and huge input by many

It was a 6 county effort
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Doing a lot of under age games and Naomh Brid (Belfast) seem to be doing rightly at underage lately as are St Paul's..

As mentioned taking your eye off the underage and channeling energies into senior only will only reduce the counties ability to get better

GNM seem to be doing good work

GNM have good U-15 teams (relatively speaking) in both codes. They are struggling under that age to field in hurling for example. I wouldn't accuse a team in Belfast of not "putting the work in", I have seen the challenges at first hand.

They are varied, soccer, the number of clubs, kids not practicing from one week to the next and don't come back. If a club doesent have numbers they are behind the 8 ball already. St Brigids have huge numbers at football (not so at hurling)

St Paul's are strong in football and hurling from U-11 up to U-15, not sure about U-17.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2023, 05:47:36 PM
I think they are up there in under 17 too. Gnm had a minor team not far off as good as the minor team with Mick McCann on it and had a few good years but probably never kicked on. I think, taboo as this may sound, city teams struggle more with player retention.

It'll be very interesting seeing how st brigid's go over the next few years. They are up there at underage every year it seems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:51:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 16, 2023, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Doing a lot of under age games and Naomh Brid (Belfast) seem to be doing rightly at underage lately as are St Paul's..

As mentioned taking your eye off the underage and channeling energies into senior only will only reduce the counties ability to get better

GNM seem to be doing good work

GNM have good U-15 teams (relatively speaking) in both codes. They are struggling under that age to field in hurling for example. I wouldn't accuse a team in Belfast of not "putting the work in", I have seen the challenges at first hand.

They are varied, soccer, the number of clubs, kids not practicing from one week to the next and don't come back. If a club doesent have numbers they are behind the 8 ball already. St Brigids have huge numbers at football (not so at hurling)

St Paul's are strong in football and hurling from U-11 up to U-15, not sure about U-17.

So single code teams should be better prepared, numbers, training, structures than say a dual club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 16, 2023, 06:57:21 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.
Jaysus don't be me mentioning schools on here.  You'll get ate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

I never said it was easy.

Just a serious amount of childish stuff on here regarding other clubs and Cargin and who is favourites etc. Bit childish.

Cargin have been in Ulster club a few years now but not much progress.

You're right, this could be the year IF they get out of Antrim.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

I never said it was easy.

Just a serious amount of childish stuff on here regarding other clubs and Cargin and who is favourites etc. Bit childish.

Cargin have been in Ulster club a few years now but not much progress.

You're right, this could be the year IF they get out of Antrim.
You just said they should be looking at Ulster not Antrim, now you're saying "if" they get out of Antrim. Make your mind up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 16, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 16, 2023, 04:03:20 PM
Have the country teams raised the standard or have the city teams just got worse. A bit of both?

I ask this because it seems to me that our county underage teams are no better than they ever were and are possibly worse.

And if I expand this out to senior club football, trying to tread carefully as I know they can be sensitive on here. Cargin posters - I'm not having a pop at your club!!

Cargin are undoubtedly and deservedly the standard bearers in Antrim football currently. Do you think that Cargin's current team are of a higher standard than their team that wasn't winning many championships 10-15 years ago?
I think Cargins current team full out are better than 10-15 years ago, though not at that level of St Galls All Ireland winners. That was an exceptional team.
We have kept a consistent standard throughout while others have dropped off. Only my opinion

St. Galls were better alright. Won an All-Ireland etc.

Cargin have won a few Antrim titles but, as of yet, have done very little in Ulster.

As I said previously, they need to look beyond Antrim instead of their supporters on here talking up winning another Antrim title.
In our whole history we've on only played in Ulster 9 different seasons and won games in two of those. Maybe this could be our year to go further if we win this easy Antrim championship you are talking about.

I never said it was easy.

Just a serious amount of childish stuff on here regarding other clubs and Cargin and who is favourites etc. Bit childish.

Cargin have been in Ulster club a few years now but not much progress.

You're right, this could be the year IF they get out of Antrim.
You just said they should be looking at Ulster not Antrim, now you're saying "if" they get out of Antrim. Make your mind up

Don't want Cargin to get ahead of themselves.  That's why I put the IF.

If I din't put it in, you'd be complaining.

You're always constantly having a go at Portglenone and other teams - like baldy men fighting over a comb.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 16, 2023, 09:28:11 PM
I'd make Cargin favourites for Antrim and Glen favourites for Derry so they'll have it all to do to get past the first round tbh. Think Glen will go close again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 09:42:45 PM
Schools is a total red herring if clubs aren't producing the players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
On a lighter note I see the SV boys and McTaggart are having a falling out in Twitter, always wondered how much sense McTaggart had but now I know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
On a lighter note I see the SV boys and McTaggart are having a falling out in Twitter, always wondered how much sense McTaggart had but now I know

Not a lot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 16, 2023, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 16, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
On a lighter note I see the SV boys and McTaggart are having a falling out in Twitter, always wondered how much sense McTaggart had but now I know

McTaggart is a complete gentleman. Wouldn't write a bad word about anybody or slate anybody.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 08:19:08 AM
Does great work too and deserves nothing but credit. Gets a bit excited about Dunloy mind you :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 08:19:08 AM
Does great work too and deserves nothing but credit. Gets a bit excited about Dunloy mind you :D

Nothing wrong with getting excited about your club, and great to see passion. Seems its not everyone's cup on tea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 08:52:36 AM
Yeah I was joking. Them ones deserve no attention. Mctaggart and the saffron gael do great work.

On the note of schools we do have quite a few players who do benefit from playing at McRory level. I think that's definitely helpful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?

Not saying its the be all and end all i know there's plenty other factors outside that but just pointing out its a big factor.
And of course there have been a few teams that have done well with their kids going to school in Belfast.

And i know it is easy for me to point fingers at the city clubs, but truth is us in the country don't have the same problems, as in many areas of the country football is everything, in Belfast there are many many more distractions outside of football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 09:21:20 AM
I would agree tbh.

I think most of our best players would have played to a high level with third level education which also helps. There wouldn't have been too many of that st galls team who wouldn't have played sigerson.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?

Not saying its the be all and end all i know there's plenty other factors outside that but just pointing out its a big factor.
And of course there have been a few teams that have done well with their kids going to school in Belfast.

And i know it is easy for me to point fingers at the city clubs, but truth is us in the country don't have the same problems, as in many areas of the country football is everything, in Belfast there are many many more distractions outside of football

I've seen that level of football at schools, and been lucky enough to cover the games over the years, the conditioning is something well above what I went through at school, not sure whether ist costs or whatever that from under 16 up that clubs can't be putting all their kids through that level of conditioning also... 2 or 3 players from a club playing at that level doesn't always raise the the standard at the club, otherwise SW clubs would have dominated the Antrim championships since the schools cup started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?

Not saying its the be all and end all i know there's plenty other factors outside that but just pointing out its a big factor.
And of course there have been a few teams that have done well with their kids going to school in Belfast.

And i know it is easy for me to point fingers at the city clubs, but truth is us in the country don't have the same problems, as in many areas of the country football is everything, in Belfast there are many many more distractions outside of football

I've seen that level of football at schools, and been lucky enough to cover the games over the years, the conditioning is something well above what I went through at school, not sure whether ist costs or whatever that from under 16 up that clubs can't be putting all their kids through that level of conditioning also... 2 or 3 players from a club playing at that level doesn't always raise the the standard at the club, otherwise SW clubs would have dominated the Antrim championships since the schools cup started.

It would make a brave difference like i said in a previous post as long as you have the conveyor belt of 2/3 players to come through to seniors its enough.
Having a few Antrim schools competing at the highest level would be a great help having our younger players playing against the best players in ulster at their age all year around. Many Clubs have and schools even have top quality gyms to gain that conditioning.

Your statement highlighted in bold in simply not true as at one point Belfast has had schools competing at the highest levels.

Would you not agree having a few Belfast school competing at the highest schools level would bring a few clubs forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 17, 2023, 08:59:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 08:52:36 AM
Yeah I was joking. Them ones deserve no attention. Mctaggart and the saffron gael do great work.

On the note of schools we do have quite a few players who do benefit from playing at McRory level. I think that's definitely helpful.
Yet many of our best footballers of the last 20 years played B and even C football at school.

This might be interesting. Here's two statements which are probably both true to some degree;

A. Tyrone & Derry football is strong because Tyrone & Derry schools are strong.

B. Tyrone & Derry schools are strong because Tyrone & Derry football is strong.

Which holds more weight? It's definitely B for me btw.

I agree with you. Both statements true

Playing at the highest level in school does definitely help players become better.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?

Not saying its the be all and end all i know there's plenty other factors outside that but just pointing out its a big factor.
And of course there have been a few teams that have done well with their kids going to school in Belfast.

And i know it is easy for me to point fingers at the city clubs, but truth is us in the country don't have the same problems, as in many areas of the country football is everything, in Belfast there are many many more distractions outside of football

I've seen that level of football at schools, and been lucky enough to cover the games over the years, the conditioning is something well above what I went through at school, not sure whether ist costs or whatever that from under 16 up that clubs can't be putting all their kids through that level of conditioning also... 2 or 3 players from a club playing at that level doesn't always raise the the standard at the club, otherwise SW clubs would have dominated the Antrim championships since the schools cup started.

It would make a brave difference like i said in a previous post as long as you have the conveyor belt of 2/3 players to come through to seniors its enough.
Having a few Antrim schools competing at the highest level would be a great help having our younger players playing against the best players in ulster at their age all year around. Many Clubs have and schools even have top quality gyms to gain that conditioning.

Your statement highlighted in bold in simply not true as at one point Belfast has had schools competing at the highest levels.

Would you not agree having a few Belfast school competing at the highest schools level would bring a few clubs forward?

As highlighted before when St Marys won the Hogan cup Antrim hadn't won a game in Ulster never mind competing for over 13 years, a lot of our better players came from schools that played in levels well below the McCrory cup, in fact a lot left school at 16.

I've said that it will certainly be better for all involved to have all lads at that age level to be exposed to better training intense games and better conditioning, not one or two lads from various clubs, but the fall from teams in the city isn't due to not playing that level of football, otherwise the city teams wouldn't have amount of titles they have.

I believe the country teams are better is down to how they make the club the hub of the community, a place to belong to and facilities wise second to none, which brings a sense of pride back. I don't have to think back too far to remember getting the car stuck in fields and changing in the car and up and down pitches, now its a different planet
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 17, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 16, 2023, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Caesar on August 16, 2023, 03:54:40 PM
Have you any thoughts on why the city teams in particular seem to be struggling at underage? What has changed in the city that doesn't apply to the country boys?

Said this on here a few times, don't think too many agree but i believe schools have a massive part to play, Antrim the only county in Ulster not represented at macrory level. Look at the clubs performing well over recent years ourselves creggan and aghagllon all tend to send their children to schools outside of Antrim and competing at high level in schools football.

So the teams that did well that didn't send their kids to schools outside of Antrim did ok?

Not saying its the be all and end all i know there's plenty other factors outside that but just pointing out its a big factor.
And of course there have been a few teams that have done well with their kids going to school in Belfast.

And i know it is easy for me to point fingers at the city clubs, but truth is us in the country don't have the same problems, as in many areas of the country football is everything, in Belfast there are many many more distractions outside of football

I've seen that level of football at schools, and been lucky enough to cover the games over the years, the conditioning is something well above what I went through at school, not sure whether ist costs or whatever that from under 16 up that clubs can't be putting all their kids through that level of conditioning also... 2 or 3 players from a club playing at that level doesn't always raise the the standard at the club, otherwise SW clubs would have dominated the Antrim championships since the schools cup started.

It would make a brave difference like i said in a previous post as long as you have the conveyor belt of 2/3 players to come through to seniors its enough.
Having a few Antrim schools competing at the highest level would be a great help having our younger players playing against the best players in ulster at their age all year around. Many Clubs have and schools even have top quality gyms to gain that conditioning.

Your statement highlighted in bold in simply not true as at one point Belfast has had schools competing at the highest levels.

Would you not agree having a few Belfast school competing at the highest schools level would bring a few clubs forward?

As highlighted before when St Marys won the Hogan cup Antrim hadn't won a game in Ulster never mind competing for over 13 years, a lot of our better players came from schools that played in levels well below the McCrory cup, in fact a lot left school at 16.

I've said that it will certainly be better for all involved to have all lads at that age level to be exposed to better training intense games and better conditioning, not one or two lads from various clubs, but the fall from teams in the city isn't due to not playing that level of football, otherwise the city teams wouldn't have amount of titles they have.

I believe the country teams are better is down to how they make the club the hub of the community, a place to belong to and facilities wise second to none, which brings a sense of pride back. I don't have to think back too far to remember getting the car stuck in fields and changing in the car and up and down pitches, now its a different planet

And there we have it...we can agree on something for once  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 17, 2023, 01:02:01 PM
What are the numbers like in city clubs in football underage.

My daughter plays Camogie for a rural club and more often than not you're having to play the city clubs at 12, 13, 14 a side as they don't have the numbers otherwise. Even matches in Belfast that's often the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 5times5times on August 17, 2023, 04:07:26 PM
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-gaa-star-accused-of-posing-as-a-lawyer-in-scotland/a1242159091.html

always was a piece of dirt on the ground. lots of previous
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2023, 06:19:59 PM
Lol. Thought it had been a while since he made the headlines.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2023, 07:25:44 PM
I tried to hint at it a few days ago and nobody bit :-\

Mental stuff altogether. Dunno why the independent is saying "we can reveal" in an article today. Sunday World had it at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 17, 2023, 07:42:40 PM
"he is a very intelligent man but he is also a complete head the ball" 😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Seen the story a while back.. last quote sums him up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 17, 2023, 09:49:35 PM
I always found him a decent chap who fell on hard times. Fine footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 18, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Seen the story a while back.. last quote sums him up

One of the best players to gave worn the Saffron...well spoken and intelligent lad.....sorry to hear this...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 08:49:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 18, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Seen the story a while back.. last quote sums him up

One of the best players to gave worn the Saffron...well spoken and intelligent lad.....sorry to hear this...

Well spoken lol wtf does that have to do with anything ? Does that give you licence to do as you please ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2023, 09:01:26 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 08:49:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 18, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Seen the story a while back.. last quote sums him up

One of the best players to gave worn the Saffron...well spoken and intelligent lad.....sorry to hear this...

Well spoken lol wtf does that have to do with anything ? Does that give you licence to do as you please ?

Where in his post did he mention it gives him a licence do do as he pleases?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2023, 09:01:26 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 08:49:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 18, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Seen the story a while back.. last quote sums him up

One of the best players to gave worn the Saffron...well spoken and intelligent lad.....sorry to hear this...

Well spoken lol wtf does that have to do with anything ? Does that give you licence to do as you please ?

Where in his post did he mention it gives him a licence do do as he pleases?

What does it have to do with anything ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2023, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2023, 09:01:26 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 18, 2023, 08:49:37 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 18, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
Seen the story a while back.. last quote sums him up

One of the best players to gave worn the Saffron...well spoken and intelligent lad.....sorry to hear this...

Well spoken lol wtf does that have to do with anything ? Does that give you licence to do as you please ?

Where in his post did he mention it gives him a licence do do as he pleases?

What does it have to do with anything ?

He didn't pass it off as being ok because he said well spoken and intelligent as you have implied.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 18, 2023, 12:35:39 PM
Throw your arms around the big lad and look after him...most of us have done things we regret.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 5times5times on August 18, 2023, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 18, 2023, 12:35:39 PM
Throw your arms around the big lad and look after him...most of us have done things we regret.

Inc beating lumps of your woman? you must be a great guy...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2023, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on August 18, 2023, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 18, 2023, 12:35:39 PM
Throw your arms around the big lad and look after him...most of us have done things we regret.

Inc beating lumps of your woman? you must be a great guy...

Didn't realise he was done for assault too..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 18, 2023, 02:27:57 PM
Jeez, did not say K Mc G had a halo....but he was a smashing player and more than courteous when any time I had a chat with him....sin e......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on August 18, 2023, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 18, 2023, 12:35:39 PM
Throw your arms around the big lad and look after him...most of us have done things we regret.

Inc beating lumps of your woman? you must be a great guy...
Dont know the ins and outs of it but whats the point discussing it on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 18, 2023, 06:25:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on August 18, 2023, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 18, 2023, 12:35:39 PM
Throw your arms around the big lad and look after him...most of us have done things we regret.

Inc beating lumps of your woman? you must be a great guy...
Dont know the ins and outs of it but whats the point discussing it on here

Exactly. Best left as a topic I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 18, 2023, 06:39:49 PM
Any word on any  suspensions from the melee between Aghagallon and St.Brigids?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
Meant to ask this myself, I heard aghagallon had more suspended than St Brigids but the details are few and far between
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 19, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
Meant to ask this myself, I heard aghagallon had more suspended than St Brigids but the details are few and far between

Heard there was only 1 from each team reported and suspended. Bit mad considering every player and both managements were said to be involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: ck on August 19, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
Meant to ask this myself, I heard aghagallon had more suspended than St Brigids but the details are few and far between

Heard there was only 1 from each team reported and suspended. Bit mad considering every player and both managements were said to be involved

Not sure if mobile phone evidence is used so ref's report will be what they work from unless there was an official approved recording, I could be wrong though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 19, 2023, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: ck on August 19, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
Meant to ask this myself, I heard aghagallon had more suspended than St Brigids but the details are few and far between

Heard there was only 1 from each team reported and suspended. Bit mad considering every player and both managements were said to be involved

Not sure if mobile phone evidence is used so ref's report will be what they work from unless there was an official approved recording, I could be wrong though

Yes, you're most likely right. Hard for any ref to report accurately (without a video) when all players are at it. Clubs should be fined if ref reports full scale row involving everyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 19, 2023, 04:15:00 PM
I don't think video evidence should be used at all to be honest unless every game in that competition is recorded.

For example, someone in the live game does something and they go back and look at it further than what the ref has in his report while another lad does exactly the same thing but it's not recorded so gets away with it.

Not ideal but I think consistency and equality are important.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2023, 08:56:45 PM
Mobile phones will not be used within the CCC to view incidents, there was official footage that is being used...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2023, 09:11:16 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 19, 2023, 08:59:36 PM
That's fair enough. It also runs into problems when the club who video it don't hand it over.

Well then it's down to the ref's report..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 20, 2023, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: ck on August 19, 2023, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: ck on August 19, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 18, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
Meant to ask this myself, I heard aghagallon had more suspended than St Brigids but the details are few and far between

Heard there was only 1 from each team reported and suspended. Bit mad considering every player and both managements were said to be involved

Not sure if mobile phone evidence is used so ref's report will be what they work from unless there was an official approved recording, I could be wrong though

Yes, you're most likely right. Hard for any ref to report accurately (without a video) when all players are at it. Clubs should be fined if ref reports full scale row involving everyone.
I never saw a row yet that involved everyone.  There's always plenty trying to break it up, and plenty more running around not sure what they're doing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on August 20, 2023, 10:57:09 AM
Aghagallon are always at it at home . Don't think at brigids ever b in bother
Anyway who can beat the mighty cargin this year ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 10:03:38 AM
Just heard that Cargin under 15 team following a long double round season and having finished top of the league have been informed that points for their last game were not awarded.
The CCC have informed last game which was postponed twice by their opposition and refixed with approval(CCC) appointed referee (Brendan Mc Polin) was 'out of approved date' despite the fact ref was appointed.....u

Was a bad day for the S West division when juvenile competitions were to be on all county basis....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on August 21, 2023, 10:06:31 AM
CB, can you please confirm what 'out of approved date' means?

Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 10:03:38 AM
Just heard that Cargin under 15 team following a long double round season and having finished top of the league have been informed that points for their last game were not awarded.
The CCC have informed last game which was postponed twice by their opposition and refixed with approval(CCC) appointed referee (Brendan Mc Polin) was 'out of approved date' despite the fact ref was appointed.....u

Was a bad day for the S West division when juvenile competitions were to be on all county basis....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 21, 2023, 10:12:14 AM
So that's 2 years in a row Cargin U15 have been shafted !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 21, 2023, 10:26:04 AM
There is a cut of date for league fixtures to be completed.

Too many refixes and half them never get played.

Quote from: Would ye whist on August 21, 2023, 10:06:31 AM
CB, can you please confirm what 'out of approved date' means?

Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 10:03:38 AM
Just heard that Cargin under 15 team following a long double round season and having finished top of the league have been informed that points for their last game were not awarded.
The CCC have informed last game which was postponed twice by their opposition and refixed with approval(CCC) appointed referee (Brendan Mc Polin) was 'out of approved date' despite the fact ref was appointed.....u

Was a bad day for the S West division when juvenile competitions were to be on all county basis....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 21, 2023, 10:28:19 AM
😂I'm glad we've R Matthews reffing our game in the cesspit Saturday evening,he won't take any shit from Lynch and Murray trying to ref it,also glad it's not Granda Murray and the grandson making a bollocks off it 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 10:45:45 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on August 21, 2023, 10:06:31 AM
CB, can you please confirm what 'out of approved date' means?

Cut off date....Cargin's last game postponed postponed at request of opposition twice....CCC agreed to re-fix and appointed official referee.......Cargin won to go top...and these are kids who are ferried all over the county .....such never occurred when S West fixed in superbly organised juvenile leagues.......


Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 10:03:38 AM
Just heard that Cargin under 15 team following a long double round season and having finished top of the league have been informed that points for their last game were not awarded.
The CCC have informed last game which was postponed twice by their opposition and refixed with approval(CCC) appointed referee (Brendan Mc Polin) was 'out of approved date' despite the fact ref was appointed.....u

Was a bad day for the S West division when juvenile competitions were to be on all county basis....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 21, 2023, 11:40:49 AM
Ref: U15

Aldergrove still have a game to play as well, so surely if Cargin got the points from that last game, then they would be entitled to get the points from their final game.

I would have a sneaking suspicion Creggan might not take the field against them if it meant their neighbours lost the league!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Though we have had recent complaints on here about how SW has handled the Laverty Cup.

And while I agree that games should get played, it doesn't appear to be an out and out shafting for Cargin as you are painting it. The team at the top of the league also have an outstanding fixture. It would be only fair that they get to play that if the Cargin v Rasharkin result stands.

Edit: barnish oggie beat me to it.
Please read my original comment and forget any bias...

The CCC approved the fixture in question as per their fixtures board and appointed a Belfast based referee who duly arrived in Toome.....

Wonder will the afore mentioned official receive his due match fee....???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Though we have had recent complaints on here about how SW has handled the Laverty Cup.

And while I agree that games should get played, it doesn't appear to be an out and out shafting for Cargin as you are painting it. The team at the top of the league also have an outstanding fixture. It would be only fair that they get to play that if the Cargin v Rasharkin result stands.

Edit: barnish oggie beat me to it.
Please read my original comment and forget any bias...

The CCC approved the fixture in question as per their fixtures board and appointed a Belfast based referee who duly arrived in Toome.....

Wonder will the afore mentioned official receive his due match fee....???

He'll get no match fee, as no match was played, he will get fuel cover for driving up and the annoyance of not being notified that that game was called off by whoever
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2023, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Though we have had recent complaints on here about how SW has handled the Laverty Cup.

And while I agree that games should get played, it doesn't appear to be an out and out shafting for Cargin as you are painting it. The team at the top of the league also have an outstanding fixture. It would be only fair that they get to play that if the Cargin v Rasharkin result stands.

Edit: barnish oggie beat me to it.
Please read my original comment and forget any bias...

The CCC approved the fixture in question as per their fixtures board and appointed a Belfast based referee who duly arrived in Toome.....

Wonder will the afore mentioned official receive his due match fee....???

He'll get no match fee, as no match was played, he will get fuel cover for driving up and the annoyance of not being notified that that game was called off by whoever

getting a bit confusing this, the match WAS played

there are 2 matches fixed for Wed evening in toome against Creggan, reserve cship semi and u17 league
I know there are 2 pitches and its possible but is it happening ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Though we have had recent complaints on here about how SW has handled the Laverty Cup.

And while I agree that games should get played, it doesn't appear to be an out and out shafting for Cargin as you are painting it. The team at the top of the league also have an outstanding fixture. It would be only fair that they get to play that if the Cargin v Rasharkin result stands.

Edit: barnish oggie beat me to it.
Please read my original comment and forget any bias...

The CCC approved the fixture in question as per their fixtures board and appointed a Belfast based referee who duly arrived in Toome.....

Wonder will the afore mentioned official receive his due match fee....???

He'll get no match fee, as no match was played, he will get fuel cover for driving up and the annoyance of not being notified that that game was called off by whoever

Match was not called off with Cargin winning .

Another question is if any transgression of rule had occurred by players or official would offenders have escaped penalty or penalties due.....
As I mentioned game announced via Fixtures board on notice board ....

No notice of cancellation received by either club and obviously Brendan Mc Polin.....

Go ahead......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 03:01:00 PM
Should I bother heading down on Wed night? and why is the home fixture Creggan with the game at Cargin?

And trust me any transgressions will be duly noted by players officials or randomers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2023, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 03:01:00 PM
Should I bother heading down on Wed night? and why is the home fixture Creggan with the game at Cargin?

And trust me any transgressions will be duly noted by players officials or randomers

website fixtures have been like that recently, first named team you'd assume are at home, but when you click venue its at the ground of the 2nd team mentioned !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2023, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 03:01:00 PM
Should I bother heading down on Wed night? and why is the home fixture Creggan with the game at Cargin?

And trust me any transgressions will be duly noted by players officials or randomers

website fixtures have been like that recently, first named team you'd assume are at home, but when you click venue its at the ground of the 2nd team mentioned !!

The program for giving out games and notifications for the ref's has been playing up also.

You get asked to do a game, its a Y or a N and before the game you'll get a reminder a few hours beforehand and after the game a message asking for the score, great system, when it works lol!

This is new with the different venues, sometimes the game was played at another pitch in the first set of games and this is returned back, but on the website it stays the same
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 21, 2023, 03:44:12 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Though we have had recent complaints on here about how SW has handled the Laverty Cup.

And while I agree that games should get played, it doesn't appear to be an out and out shafting for Cargin as you are painting it. The team at the top of the league also have an outstanding fixture. It would be only fair that they get to play that if the Cargin v Rasharkin result stands.

Edit: barnish oggie beat me to it.
Please read my original comment and forget any bias...

The CCC approved the fixture in question as per their fixtures board and appointed a Belfast based referee who duly arrived in Toome.....

Wonder will the afore mentioned official receive his due match fee....???

He'll get no match fee, as no match was played, he will get fuel cover for driving up and the annoyance of not being notified that that game was called off by whoever

Match was not called off with Cargin winning .

Another question is if any transgression of rule had occurred by players or official would offenders have escaped penalty or penalties due.....
As I mentioned game announced via Fixtures board on notice board ....

No notice of cancellation received by either club and obviously Brendan Mc Polin.....

Go ahead......

That is different.

So the U15 game went ahead on Wednesday with Cargin winning?

I would have thought seeing as the fixture is on the website and if an official ref turned up and did the game, then surely his reporting of the score would have been sufficient and you would be given the points.

I do know that there was a date given out to all clubs to have their games played by, which was prior to 15th, but then the county shouldn't have the fixture up on the website at all.

And still, Aldergrove should be given the chance to play their final game as well.

The thing is, if Dunloy hadn't had the hurling, they would have won that league anyway.

The best team in it but they lost a few fixtures by resting players for the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 21, 2023, 03:45:33 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 21, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
Though we have had recent complaints on here about how SW has handled the Laverty Cup.

And while I agree that games should get played, it doesn't appear to be an out and out shafting for Cargin as you are painting it. The team at the top of the league also have an outstanding fixture. It would be only fair that they get to play that if the Cargin v Rasharkin result stands.

Edit: barnish oggie beat me to it.
Please read my original comment and forget any bias...

The CCC approved the fixture in question as per their fixtures board and appointed a Belfast based referee who duly arrived in Toome.....

Wonder will the afore mentioned official receive his due match fee....???
I fully understand your original post.

The point is that Cargin & Aldergrove should be afforded the opportunity to play the same amount of fixtures.
I have no issues with the Cargin v Rasharkin result being recognised but that would mean that Cargin played one more game than Aldergrove.
To make it fair, the Aldergrove v Creggan game would have to go ahead.

For the record, I am not approaching this with any bias. I'm not convinced the same can be said of you however.

Last year Cargin didn't play the same number of games as Creggan and that cost them the league.

Once the date passed, no other fixtures were allowed to be played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 03:53:36 PM
And this year your side were given a point in the game v Cargin....

And for your limited info Cargin's last league game in u15 was not played as the opposition refused to travel from West Belfast.....points awarded 're concession.....not at all..


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 03:01:00 PM
Should I bother heading down on Wed night? and why is the home fixture Creggan with the game at Cargin?

And trust me any transgressions will be duly noted by players officials or randomers

So need to inform our players that any transgression during training will be noted and dealt with.....

Under 17 Cargin v Creggan will not go ahead I am assured.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 21, 2023, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 03:53:36 PM
And this year your side were given a point in the game v Cargin....

And for your limited info Cargin's last league game in u15 was not played as the opposition refused to travel from West Belfast.....points awarded 're concession.....not at all..

Who was "given" a point v Cargin?

Not sure i follow.

And i take it the west belfast thing was last year?

My point above was that the games should have been played last year and this, Cargin unfortunately lost the league last year as a result but seem to want to win the league this year by the same premise.

Neither is the right way to do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
That games off Wednesday  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 21, 2023, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
That games off Wednesday  :P

Yep.....minor game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 21, 2023, 06:25:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
That games off Wednesday  :P

Didn't see the sense of bringing someone from the big smoke down to ref it, so they asked for a postponement
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 22, 2023, 08:44:37 PM
So the "cut off date" for under-15 football only applied to Cargin..




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 23, 2023, 08:37:44 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 22, 2023, 08:44:37 PM
So the "cut off date" for under-15 football only applied to Cargin..

Sure Aldergrove were not allowed to play their final game either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 09:42:56 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 23, 2023, 08:37:44 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 22, 2023, 08:44:37 PM
So the "cut off date" for under-15 football only applied to Cargin..

Sure Aldergrove were not allowed to play their final game either.

But for your info Mr S.......Creggan and Aldergrove could not agree on a date to play that game.....in direct contrast to
Cargin's refixed game.....

More than a few under 15 games have been played since that cut off date....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.

Indeed, and when did the split occur...........?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 23, 2023, 03:30:50 PM
Fixtures running every 2 weeks is no use to anyone. We need weekly fixtures at u12/14/16 and18s next year. We can't do away with games for the majority because of dual players in the minority
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Dreen on August 23, 2023, 03:30:50 PM
Fixtures running every 2 weeks is no use to anyone. We need weekly fixtures at u12/14/16 and18s next year. We can't do away with games for the majority because of dual players in the minority

Rasharkin Creggan Clooney and Tir na Og Dunloy  and others are a big mix of dual players, I personally love turning up one week at a club and the lads are hurling then next week same lads are out with the big ball!

They are slightly different in their approach to the ref also  ;D

The games are what they are, hurling one week football the next, if you are only playing one code then find another sport if you feel it's not enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on August 23, 2023, 09:08:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.

Indeed, and when did the split occur...........?
The cut off date was 10th Aug !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 23, 2023, 09:47:33 PM
Cargin by 7
Rossa by 2
St Endas by 5
Pg1/Ahoghill draw
MG/ Aghagallon  draw
Dunloy by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 23, 2023, 09:48:23 PM
St endas 10/3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2023, 09:59:34 PM
Can't see your bottom four happening. Be very surprised if st endas win. Portglenone to beat ahoghill. Aghagallon to beat moneyglass and Creggan to beat Dunloy. Other than that spot on...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 23, 2023, 09:08:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.

Indeed, and when did the split occur...........?
The cut off date was 10th Aug !
Quite a few games played after that date....maybe you can come over and explain to a lot of disappointed (13/15 year olds.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 23, 2023, 10:32:12 PM
Just because you are paranoid doesent mean they aren't out to get you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 23, 2023, 09:08:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.

Indeed, and when did the split occur...........?
The cut off date was 10th Aug !
Quite a few games played after that date....maybe you can come over and explain to a lot of disappointed (13/15 year olds.....

Aldergrove would be disappointed  I'd say not getting a chance to finish their last game in div 3

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 23, 2023, 10:49:34 PM
As I said,the cesspit will hold no fear for our boys,we won't be bullied,10/3 is very generous and I'll be having a bit off that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 23, 2023, 11:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Dreen on August 23, 2023, 03:30:50 PM
Fixtures running every 2 weeks is no use to anyone. We need weekly fixtures at u12/14/16 and18s next year. We can't do away with games for the majority because of dual players in the minority

Rasharkin Creggan Clooney and Tir na Og Dunloy  and others are a big mix of dual players, I personally love turning up one week at a club and the lads are hurling then next week same lads are out with the big ball!

They are slightly different in their approach to the ref also  ;D

The games are what they are, hurling one week football the next, if you are only playing one code then find another sport if you feel it's not enough.
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You are way off the mark there MR2 and they will find another sport that provides them weekly games.

You may love reffing a different code every week buts it's no use to bring players throug
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Dreen on August 23, 2023, 11:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Dreen on August 23, 2023, 03:30:50 PM
Fixtures running every 2 weeks is no use to anyone. We need weekly fixtures at u12/14/16 and18s next year. We can't do away with games for the majority because of dual players in the minority

Rasharkin Creggan Clooney and Tir na Og Dunloy  and others are a big mix of dual players, I personally love turning up one week at a club and the lads are hurling then next week same lads are out with the big ball!

They are slightly different in their approach to the ref also  ;D

The games are what they are, hurling one week football the next, if you are only playing one code then find another sport if you feel it's not enough.
[/quotes

You are way off the mark there MR2 and they will find another sport that provides them weekly games.

You may love reffing a different code every week buts it's no use to bring players throug

Works in countless counties.

Your solution is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 23, 2023, 09:08:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.

Indeed, and when did the split occur...........?
The cut off date was 10th Aug !
Quite a few games played after that date....maybe you can come over and explain to a lot of disappointed (13/15 year olds.....

Aldergrove would be disappointed  I'd say not getting a chance to finish their last game in div 3

Yes but you are missing the point here, it is only about the siege mentality and everyone is out to get Cargin.

Bend the rules to make sure they don't get an u15 league title.

Never mind the facts of the matter....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: delgany on August 23, 2023, 09:08:33 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 23, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 23, 2023, 12:32:44 PM
All clubs were informed by CCC that all games need to be played / refixed before the split to be allowed to be added to their total overall points. Games not played before the split  and refixed after the split, wouldn't be allowed

Plenty of advance warning.

Indeed, and when did the split occur...........?
The cut off date was 10th Aug !
Quite a few games played after that date....maybe you can come over and explain to a lot of disappointed (13/15 year olds.....

Aldergrove would be disappointed  I'd say not getting a chance to finish their last game in div 3

Yes but you are missing the point here, it is only about the siege mentality and everyone is out to get Cargin.

Bend the rules to make sure they don't get an u15 league title.

Never mind the facts of the matter....

The facts don't seem to matter much, never mind the other clubs in the mix in the same situation looking at the tables/ scorelines on the website.

Never seen so much drama about a Div 3 u15 League title
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on August 24, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
My gripe with this issue is that this is the second year in a row this has happened. Last year Belfast clubs just refused to travel down for games and then one club that wouldn't concide the points also wouldn't agree to a refixed date hence costing Cargin the 2 points and handing Creggan the league.

This year our U15 played every single game ,the game away to Aldergrove they where missing 5 strong players but still played the fixture....

The last game against Rasharkin was set with referee named, so it was to everyone involved a league game for points and there was no worries that the same problem from last year was going to happen again.

It doesn't seem fair to the kids or the parents who make the sacrifices to get to these games week in week out to make it all for nothing .It doesn't matter if its only a division 3 title or not.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 24, 2023, 11:42:26 AM
Looking at U15 this year there are 27 club teams playing football out in of that 10 are dual clubs.

At u17 25 teams playing football with 10 of them being dual.

I've left amalgamations out of it that but there are 2 at u15 hurling and 3 at u17 hurling with 1 at u17 football.

Which counties do you see it working MR2, and how can we make it more like them.

Our underages league are not near the level they were under south west divisional board from my own point of view
Under all county it's becomes a mess trying to please everybody and it's impossible to do so.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 24, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
My gripe with this issue is that this is the second year in a row this has happened. Last year Belfast clubs just refused to travel down for games and then one club that wouldn't concide the points also wouldn't agree to a refixed date hence costing Cargin the 2 points and handing Creggan the league.

This year our U15 played every single game ,the game away to Aldergrove they where missing 5 strong players but still played the fixture....

The last game against Rasharkin was set with referee named, so it was to everyone involved a league game for points and there was no worries that the same problem from last year was going to happen again.

It doesn't seem fair to the kids or the parents who make the sacrifices to get to these games week in week out to make it all for nothing .It doesn't matter if its only a division 3 title or not.

Last year I agree you were very hard done by.

But I think this year, as it was so close and 1 game makes a huge difference, then if your last game counted Aldergrove should be entitled to play theirs.

We always aim to fulfil our fixtures, it is better going and taking a beating than having the kids missing out on a game.

At one stage we were challenging for the league but then lost players for a few weeks and lost 3 in a row.

We could easily have asked for those games to be postponed and wait until we had a full panel but didn't.

It is disappointing when you see some clubs regularly miss fixtures at that age group because they just want to manipulate the games to suit themselves and not that of their players.

This happened a hell of a lot last year with the all county setup.


PS I and many other coaches (inc Cargin's coach) in that league don't see it as Div 3, as it isn't at all.

It should be Div 2B, as Div 2 was split geographically and not on ability.

Really, they should have had a play off at the end of the year between the top of Div 2a and 2b for the Div 2 champion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 24, 2023, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 24, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
My gripe with this issue is that this is the second year in a row this has happened. Last year Belfast clubs just refused to travel down for games and then one club that wouldn't concide the points also wouldn't agree to a refixed date hence costing Cargin the 2 points and handing Creggan the league.

This year our U15 played every single game ,the game away to Aldergrove they where missing 5 strong players but still played the fixture....

The last game against Rasharkin was set with referee named, so it was to everyone involved a league game for points and there was no worries that the same problem from last year was going to happen again.

It doesn't seem fair to the kids or the parents who make the sacrifices to get to these games week in week out to make it all for nothing .It doesn't matter if its only a division 3 title or not.

Last year I agree you were very hard done by.

But I think this year, as it was so close and 1 game makes a huge difference, then if your last game counted Aldergrove should be entitled to play theirs.

We always aim to fulfil our fixtures, it is better going and taking a beating than having the kids missing out on a game.

At one stage we were challenging for the league but then lost players for a few weeks and lost 3 in a row.

We could easily have asked for those games to be postponed and wait until we had a full panel but didn't.

It is disappointing when you see some clubs regularly miss fixtures at that age group because they just want to manipulate the games to suit themselves and not that of their players.

This happened a hell of a lot last year with the all county setup.


PS I and many other coaches (inc Cargin's coach) in that league don't see it as Div 3, as it isn't at all.

It should be Div 2B, as Div 2 was split geographically and not on ability.

Really, they should have had a play off at the end of the year between the top of Div 2a and 2b for the Div 2 champion.

agree totally with your Ps bit there. dont know why they didnt name it 2A and B. And an all county final wouldve been the way to go
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 24, 2023, 12:34:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 23, 2023, 10:32:12 PM
Just because you are paranoid doesent mean they aren't out to get you

Past the 'sell by' date to play for under-15s.....perhaps you will explain why under-15 competition proceeded past 10th and still going..perhaps you have friends in high places.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2023, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: Dreen on August 24, 2023, 11:42:26 AM
Looking at U15 this year there are 27 club teams playing football out in of that 10 are dual clubs.

At u17 25 teams playing football with 10 of them being dual.

I've left amalgamations out of it that but there are 2 at u15 hurling and 3 at u17 hurling with 1 at u17 football.

Which counties do you see it working MR2, and how can we make it more like them.

Our underages league are not near the level they were under south west divisional board from my own point of view
Under all county it's becomes a mess trying to please everybody and it's impossible to do so.

Ok so lets just drop football in the county as we are shite at it and throw our lot into Hurling!

You are the one bringing it up so I've asked you your solution, other counties obviously make it work because there are plenty of successful dual counties out there in club and county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 24, 2023, 02:14:43 PM
You said it worked in other counties and I asked you where and could we work on that.

I know it's not easy but what we are doing at the minute isn't the way forward and I've expressed that opinion away from this board.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 24, 2023, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 24, 2023, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on August 24, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
My gripe with this issue is that this is the second year in a row this has happened. Last year Belfast clubs just refused to travel down for games and then one club that wouldn't concide the points also wouldn't agree to a refixed date hence costing Cargin the 2 points and handing Creggan the league.

This year our U15 played every single game ,the game away to Aldergrove they where missing 5 strong players but still played the fixture....

The last game against Rasharkin was set with referee named, so it was to everyone involved a league game for points and there was no worries that the same problem from last year was going to happen again.

It doesn't seem fair to the kids or the parents who make the sacrifices to get to these games week in week out to make it all for nothing .It doesn't matter if its only a division 3 title or not.

Last year I agree you were very hard done by.

But I think this year, as it was so close and 1 game makes a huge difference, then if your last game counted Aldergrove should be entitled to play theirs.

We always aim to fulfil our fixtures, it is better going and taking a beating than having the kids missing out on a game.

At one stage we were challenging for the league but then lost players for a few weeks and lost 3 in a row.

We could easily have asked for those games to be postponed and wait until we had a full panel but didn't.

It is disappointing when you see some clubs regularly miss fixtures at that age group because they just want to manipulate the games to suit themselves and not that of their players.

This happened a hell of a lot last year with the all county setup.


PS I and many other coaches (inc Cargin's coach) in that league don't see it as Div 3, as it isn't at all.

It should be Div 2B, as Div 2 was split geographically and not on ability.

Really, they should have had a play off at the end of the year between the top of Div 2a and 2b for the Div 2 champion.

agree totally with your Ps bit there. dont know why they didnt name it 2A and B. And an all county final wouldve been the way to go

Last year the u15 league was skewed by teams postponing games then refusing to refix games, surely this has to be stamped out moving forward. Not so sure what has gone on this year but lumping the SW teams all in and calling it Div3, while the Belfast teams go in Div 2, how ridiculous.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2023, 02:53:49 PM
Quote from: Dreen on August 24, 2023, 02:14:43 PM
You said it worked in other counties and I asked you where and could we work on that.

I know it's not easy but what we are doing at the minute isn't the way forward and I've expressed that opinion away from this board.

Dublin, Cork, Galway, Clare to name just a few of the counties that at senior level would be mixing it in both codes, not sure of the set ups and so on but what you are saying is that clubs should be single code?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 24, 2023, 03:03:42 PM
Most definitely not, my own club is a dual.

We need to look at the calendar and hopefully get the geographical split in the leagues even for a first round of fixtures.

What we can't have is single code clubs waiting 2 weeks for a game, even if this means divisional competitions filling the void.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 03:06:22 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 24, 2023, 12:34:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 23, 2023, 10:32:12 PM
Just because you are paranoid doesent mean they aren't out to get you

Past the 'sell by' date to play for under-15s.....perhaps you will explain why under-15 competition proceeded past 10th and still going..perhaps you have friends in high places.

The date of 10th August was for culmination of the league fixtures, prior to recommencing the Breslin Cup/Shield and then the subsequent Championship games.

There was only 1 league game played after 10th August not "quite a few games".

Sure as we all have been told, leagues are for playing and Championships are for winning, so maybe the early finish of the league can allow focus on the big prize and the disappointment will soon be forgotten about.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 24, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Five under-15 league games played since August 10th....6 if counting Cargin v St Mary's....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 24, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Five under-15 league games played since August 10th....6 if counting Cargin v St Mary's....

Five were played on 10th August, one was played after.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 24, 2023, 06:27:11 PM
So at u-15 is it one match per fortnight?

How long does the season last?

I've only a daughter that plays now and there's just different days for her to be playing across football and Camogie.

U-12 Camogie is a Sunday, football is a Friday night.

U-14 Camogie is a Saturday, u-16 football is a Thursday.

U-16 Camogie is a monday, u-16 football is a Tuesday.

She's at two different clubs due to where we live and sometimes training clashes but we just manage how we operate it.

Surely something like that could be organised where there's a set day and you aim to get a match per week. If it's too much for them, they'll probably pick one code eventually but the more matches the better imo as long as training is managed well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 24, 2023, 06:44:44 PM
That's how I'd see it going for football and hurling for the leagues, 2 games a week for dual then spread out for championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 24, 2023, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 24, 2023, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 24, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Five under-15 league games played since August 10th....6 if counting Cargin v St Mary's....

Five were played on 10th August, one was played after.

Dead rubber u15 game played tonight....at Hannahstown v Aghagallon....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 25, 2023, 07:37:04 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 25, 2023, 06:16:18 AM
Every game played after the deadline is a dead rubber.

Points were awarded.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on August 25, 2023, 07:59:28 AM
Cargin by 2
Rossa by 1
LD by 6
PG1 by 8
Aghagallon by 8
Creggan by 5


Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 23, 2023, 09:47:33 PM
Cargin by 7
Rossa by 2
St Endas by 5
Pg1/Ahoghill draw
MG/ Aghagallon  draw
Dunloy by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAAhead2013 on August 25, 2023, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 24, 2023, 06:27:11 PM
So at u-15 is it one match per fortnight?

How long does the season last?

I've only a daughter that plays now and there's just different days for her to be playing across football and Camogie.

U-12 Camogie is a Sunday, football is a Friday night.

U-14 Camogie is a Saturday, u-16 football is a Thursday.

U-16 Camogie is a monday, u-16 football is a Tuesday.

She's at two different clubs due to where we live and sometimes training clashes but we just manage how we operate it.

Surely something like that could be organised where there's a set day and you aim to get a match per week. If it's too much for them, they'll probably pick one code eventually but the more matches the better imo as long as training is managed well.

The problem here is that if the kids are good enough to play the age grade above, then she plays games 4 nights of the week. This might also mean they're capable of playing county level where a specific training programme might be in place for them. Add to that school teams of their own age and age above and add to that any additional sports the child plays.
At what stage do they get the chance to actually train? Whilst games are great for kids, we need them training also to refine their skills. There is an argument for games based coaching, but that's in a controlled environment where the coach can dictate appropriate development through coaching progressions. If they're playing so many games per week, at what stage do they actually get the chance to develop their bodies for sport away from the field? From 15+ do we not want to be educating our youngsters on injury prevention and a healthy lifestyle in the gym too?

Re the dual question, almost sure Dublin do a hurling week and a football week. Instead of playing the same teams over and over why not use the week off (as a non dual club) to go get a challenge game
Every 2nd 4th week in nearby counties etc? A chance to freshen up the schedule and expose your team to other styles of players & football/hurling?
Def think the games programme could be adapted differently too. Have the 15 a side comps at certain times of the year and 7-9 a side comps at other times of the year. We have breaks for exams and breaks for holidays and even teams failing to field at these times of the year. Why not try a weekly small sided competition where teams can enter 1 team or 4 teams depending on numbers? Have the competition at certain times of the year (eg exams, hols) so the kids can have a consistent games programme instead of other teams failing to field as they were never going to get 13-15 kids together anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 25, 2023, 10:12:53 AM
A lot of good points there but the challenge game doesn't work if the neighbouring counties are playing games every week and we are the only county in Ulster who run dual to the level we do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAAhead2013 on August 25, 2023, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Dreen on August 25, 2023, 10:12:53 AM
A lot of good points there but the challenge game doesn't work if the neighbouring counties are playing games every week and we are the only county in Ulster who run dual to the level we do.

I don't know the other county fixtures to look at that. But what's the solution? If we run it all together in the same week, we end up with the league over a lot quicker and many lads/ladies being run into the ground.
A non-dual league every second week? Just means you potentially play the same team 4 times that year but allows for more game opps and the dual lads don't get hammered? Only thing is, I don't fancy putting my hand up for fixtures in CB this year   :o  Which is probably what it all comes down to.
If it's a serious issue get it raised through club officials and recommend a fixtures 'task force' to review and resolve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2023, 10:36:31 AM
What's your end goal here? More league games? Or kids just having fun?

Typically kids play for club and school all year round, training with the school and club and games with both. If the lad/girl plays both they are getting plenty of games and having fun.

Parents/coaches/clubs sometimes need to remember what the association was set up for

Our sport isn't just about producing all Ireland champions, unfortunately there will be counties or clubs will never be in that position.

Kids should be playing both codes through to senior and pick one at senior level and play for the reserves at the other.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dreen on August 25, 2023, 11:49:40 AM
We shouldn't be starting juvenile leagues early March for a start and also in my opinion not running minor games on a Sunday which is puts pressure on referee numbers also.
Gaahead, it's been raised for years and task forces and meetings and it has be tried this way and that but it's needs changed again and I think it will.  I'm talking about underage hurling and boys football.
The camogie and ladies football is a different story

Your point is fair MR2 about playing both codes to senior but what do you do with the clubs that only play one code?

Are we saying that our games are just fun at underage? Kids want games, that's what you train for.

U12 down will be go games and above that has to be developmental yes but competitive.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 25, 2023, 10:19:12 PM
All pretty much went to script tonight, McBride was decent for St John's and one or two others but huge difference in fitness and conditioning between the two teams I thought.
Tougher tests ahead, Moneyglass v Aghagallon could be an interesting game by all accounts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2023, 07:53:51 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 25, 2023, 10:19:12 PM
All pretty much went to script tonight, McBride was decent for St John's and one or two others but huge difference in fitness and conditioning between the two teams I thought.
Tougher tests ahead, Moneyglass v Aghagallon could be an interesting game by all accounts.

Never saw as big a full forward line on any team
Shivers Kelly Quinn
Throw in mcshane, stork, conor Johnston
There's a lot of physique there to go with their football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 26, 2023, 09:06:10 AM
Struggle to see a realistic challenger rsise their head to offer challenge to Cargin....

Biased I know.....but feel free with opinion.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 26, 2023, 09:24:56 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 26, 2023, 09:06:10 AM
Struggle to see a realistic challenger rsise their head to offer challenge to Cargin....

Biased I know.....but feel free with opinion.....

I still think portglenone will come good once they have their key men back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2023, 09:43:19 AM
Hold that horse, we need to beat Ahoghill today or its curtains for us.

CB you are entitled to that view, you are already contemplating your provincial campaign, and how on paper and injury wise Cargin are far better positioned than last year. That sets the bar very high for the chasing pack.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 26, 2023, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on August 26, 2023, 09:43:19 AM
Hold that horse, we need to beat Ahoghill today or its curtains for us.

CB you are entitled to that view, you are already contemplating your provincial campaign, and how on paper and injury wise Cargin are far better positioned than last year. That sets the bar very high for the chasing pack.

Does a draw not get you through ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Yes, but only if St Endas don't win at Hannahstown. I can't see that happening tbh. Portglenone need a performance to get their championship started, hopefully that's today. Still missing a few (injuries and suspension) but you've got to live with that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 26, 2023, 10:13:30 AM
Bookies certainly fancy portglenone comfortably , 1/10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2023, 10:28:01 AM
Currently hard to see cargin challenged never mind beaten.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 26, 2023, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 26, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Yes, but only if St Endas don't win at Hannahstown. I can't see that happening tbh. Portglenone need a performance to get their championship started, hopefully that's today. Still missing a few (injuries and suspension) but you've got to live with that!
As I said earlier in the week,we'll beat that shower in Hannahstown by 6/7,and that'll be enough to get us into last 8


Why so confident? LD the much better side IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 26, 2023, 02:38:59 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 02:20:36 PM
Quote from: geezer on August 26, 2023, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 26, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Yes, but only if St Endas don't win at Hannahstown. I can't see that happening tbh. Portglenone need a performance to get their championship started, hopefully that's today. Still missing a few (injuries and suspension) but you've got to live with that!
As I said earlier in the week,we'll beat that shower in Hannahstown by 6/7,and that'll be enough to get us into last 8


Why so confident? LD the much better side IMO.
Because I believe in our lads,they hold no fear off them,10/3 is a good price,won't be just us with a trip too the bookies if you get my drift😉

If Enda's field at full strength and particularly Peter Healey on board they are a capable of causing upset on the mountain.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2023, 06:37:20 PM
Ld come back from three down to draw and portglenone by seven. Close for st endas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2023, 07:48:11 PM
Didn't see St Endas getting a point out of that today,  fair play, and tough to lose out under those circumstances.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2023, 08:11:12 PM
Do cargin, st brigids, LD and tomorrow's winners get home advantage? I can't remember how last year went
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 26, 2023, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2023, 08:11:12 PM
Do cargin, st brigids,casements and tomorrow's winners get home advantage? I can't remember how last year went

Neutral venues for the knockout games. No double headers last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2023, 11:21:45 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
It'd about being shaffed,3pts up even 1 pt up and LD didn't keep thier end because they thought they wouldn't finish up as winners off the group if pg1 won by 8 or more so as I say shaffed us and not pg1 as I said,that's why 10/3 was appetising to day the least  f**king cess
Eh?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 26, 2023, 11:43:13 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
It'd about being shaffed,3pts up even 1 pt up and LD didn't keep thier end because they thought they wouldn't finish up as winners off the group if pg1 won by 8 or more so as I say shaffed us and not pg1 as I said,that's why 10/3 was appetising to day the least  f**king cess

A pint of water needed here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2023, 11:44:39 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
It'd about being shaffed,3pts up even 1 pt up and LD didn't keep thier end because they thought they wouldn't finish up as winners off the group if pg1 won by 8 or more so as I say shaffed us and not pg1 as I said,that's why 10/3 was appetising to day the least  f**king cess
Vodka beer or wine ?
Which are you on lad ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 26, 2023, 11:46:02 PM
Big claim being made here, surely there could be no substance to this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2023, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 26, 2023, 11:46:02 PM
Big claim being made here, surely there could be no substance to this?

Aye I was wondering if their were a few  emails or WhatsApps going between Hightown and the " Cesspit "

Maybe a good idea to play these last games at the same time !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on August 27, 2023, 01:12:24 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
It'd about being shaffed,3pts up even 1 pt up and LD didn't keep thier end because they thought they wouldn't finish up as winners off the group if pg1 won by 8 or more so as I say shaffed us and not pg1 as I said,that's why 10/3 was appetising to day the least  f**king cess

Yas gonna play intermediate next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
It'd about being shaffed,3pts up even 1 pt up and LD didn't keep thier end because they thought they wouldn't finish up as winners off the group if pg1 won by 8 or more so as I say shaffed us and not pg1 as I said,that's why 10/3 was appetising to day the least  f**king cess
Nothing would surprise me. On the plus side you have plenty of time now to re-group and give div2 a real good rattle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 27, 2023, 09:31:23 AM
Reading SG report on pg1 ahoghill. No sign of McAleese. When is he due back Bannside? He has no luck with injuries at all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 27, 2023, 09:58:04 AM
Hiccup😛
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2023, 10:15:05 AM
Dermot is expected to start leg work this week, still probably a good month out.

How's the form this morning G&T? Not your best weekend for predictions, so far!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 27, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
Was going into Hannahstown one day, a while back and big Fitzy asked me, how are your boys fixed today..?
"We have 4 out, I replied...."

Turning to Shanty Fitzy said, "Points are in the bag today, they have only 11 players".

If a team is potential senior champions a suitably strong panel must match ambition.

Cargin started v the Johnnies without Mick (who is chomping at the bit), Jamie G, and J Carron....and nobody noticed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 27, 2023, 10:54:06 AM
I need the cure HH
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 27, 2023, 11:05:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 27, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
Was going into Hannahstown one day, a while back and big Fitzy asked me, how are your boys fixed today..?
"We have 4 out, I replied...."

Turning to Shanty Fitzy said, "Points are in the bag today, they have only 11 players".

If a team is potential senior champions a suitably strong panel must match ambition.

Cargin started v the Johnnies without Mick (who is chomping at the bit), Jamie G, and J Carron....and nobody noticed.


Yous have some panel alright. In saying that, johnnies are a shell of what they used to be so i dont think anyone would notice if yous had another few big hitters on the bench too. Result would stay the same.

Theres only 3 clubs in the county, maybe 4 at a push, who could give Cargin a game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on August 27, 2023, 11:09:39 AM
Some shit wrote on here,bets,match fixing/throwing pts,bad losers,it's going on years in every county,doubt g&t was even at the match,pissed in Hightown more like
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 27, 2023, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: geezer on August 27, 2023, 11:05:40 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 27, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
Was going into Hannahstown one day, a while back and big Fitzy asked me, how are your boys fixed today..?
"We have 4 out, I replied...."

Turning to Shanty Fitzy said, "Points are in the bag today, they have only 11 players".

If a team is potential senior champions a suitably strong panel must match ambition.

Cargin started v the Johnnies without Mick (who is chomping at the bit), Jamie G, and J Carron....and nobody noticed.


Yous have some panel alright. In saying that, johnnies are a shell of what they used to be so i dont think anyone would notice if yous had another few big hitters on the bench too. Result would stay the same.

Theres only 3 clubs in the county, maybe 4 at a push, who could give Cargin a game.

Indeed, have endured many a close call over the years....losing in a big number of county finals....and will be tested on many more occassions.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on August 27, 2023, 12:18:55 PM
Anyone know who the 5 Aghagallon suspensions are for todays game at Moneyglass?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2023, 12:20:11 PM
Give the fella a chance to elaborate, not often we get an allegation like this. Do tell us more G&T. What has annoyed you lad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 27, 2023, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 12:20:11 PM
Give the fella a chance to elaborate, not often we get an allegation like this. Do tell us more G&T. What has annoyed you lad?
I hold my hands up bs,too many shandys,was thinking I'd banked £100,I'm a sore loser
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2023, 01:02:17 PM
How many shandies you had is of no concern to me G&T. If  you wish to put that allegation to bed completely as totally unfounded, that's your call. In that case we can tuck it away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 27, 2023, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 01:02:17 PM
How many shandies you had is of no concern to me G&T. If  you wish to put that allegation to bed completely as totally unfounded, that's your call. In that case we can tuck it away.
well tu k it away BS,good win for your lads yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 27, 2023, 03:24:02 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

Saffron Voice the only men doing any work!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 27, 2023, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

All they are interested in is pushing the live stream
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2023, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

It's very poor tbf. More interested in saffron business forum than actual games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2023, 04:29:35 PM
Creggan won 1-11 to 0-11 against dunloy. Tight enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 05:49:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2023, 04:29:35 PM
Creggan won 1-11 to 0-11 against dunloy. Tight enough.
Wouldn't read much into it, complete dead rubber
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2023, 06:25:29 PM
Aghagallon win by 3.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:46:20 PM
Lads not many Sean Kelly's about. Sure it's hard for club PROs to post updates on twitter without blaming it on one county pro.

But sure the position could be vacant in a few months, anybody here up for it or know anyone who is............
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:54:10 PM
Watched Ballymena earlier, Baker has them motoring rightly. Looks like a three way contest between Glenravel Ballymena  and Aldergrove for Intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 06:58:35 PM
Basic stuff to even give out results or fixtures even I'd have thought
Thankless job after how well Sean Kelly did it but at least have some coverage
Fair play to them saffron voice lads they were at three games today by looks of it ,minor,intermediate&senior games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2023, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

Why don't you put your name forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 27, 2023, 07:02:23 PM
Jeez, Moneyglass missed the boat .....imo.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 27, 2023, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:54:10 PM
Watched Ballymena earlier, Baker has them motoring rightly. Looks like a three way contest between Glenravel Ballymena  and Aldergrove for Intermediate.

What was the score in that one? Can't find it yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Hopefully they let us host your game, surely the prefect venue for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on August 27, 2023, 08:28:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2023, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

Why don't you put your name forward?

Yeah no criticism allowed, like North Korea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 27, 2023, 08:28:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2023, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

Why don't you put your name forward?

Yeah no criticism allowed, like North Korea

He just said put your name forward. Silly comparison
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2023, 08:41:03 PM
Fair play to anyone that puts their hand up but the social media coverage we get is very odd. It almost feels more corporate/ funding focused than focused on our games. That's not to go all saffron voice who are ridiculous about it but it shouldn't be beyond scrutiny. You get the very odd club game and not that much underage cover. Maybe we've been spoiled by Sean Kelly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 27, 2023, 09:00:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 27, 2023, 08:28:59 PM
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Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

Why don't you put your name forward?

Yeah no criticism allowed, like North Korea

He just said put your name forward. Silly comparison

Did Saffron Voice not offer their services for free and were turned down!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2023, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 27, 2023, 09:00:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
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Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 27, 2023, 03:15:54 PM
Antrim GAA social media is a joke
You'd not know there were any SFC games on this weekend bar the game featuring the greatest League champions not even scores put up or a massive minor championship game earlier and still nothing

Why don't you put your name forward?

Yeah no criticism allowed, like North Korea

He just said put your name forward. Silly comparison

Did Saffron Voice not offer their services for free and were turned down!

They did and then threw the toys out and started bringing up shit about Donegal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 27, 2023, 09:54:34 PM
So we're at the semi stage, and the semi finalists of last 2 years will now be paired in 2 of the quarters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Deerstalker on August 27, 2023, 10:03:04 PM
What's the draw for Intermediate ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 27, 2023, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 27, 2023, 09:54:34 PM
So we're at the semi stage, and the semi finalists of last 2 years will now be paired in 2 of the quarters

What's the draw in Antrim senior championship now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Deerstalker on August 27, 2023, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 27, 2023, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 27, 2023, 09:54:34 PM
So we're at the semi stage, and the semi finalists of last 2 years will now be paired in 2 of the quarters

What's the draw in Antrim senior championship now?

Cargin v Aghagallon

LD V Dunloy

Portglenone v Creggan

Rossa v St Brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 27, 2023, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on August 27, 2023, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 27, 2023, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 27, 2023, 09:54:34 PM
So we're at the semi stage, and the semi finalists of last 2 years will now be paired in 2 of the quarters

What's the draw in Antrim senior championship now?

Cargin v Aghagallon

LD V Dunloy

Portglenone v Creggan

Rossa v St Brigids

Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on August 27, 2023, 10:58:38 PM
Quote from: Deerstalker on August 27, 2023, 10:03:04 PM
What's the draw for Intermediate ?

Glenravel Vs Gort na Mona
St Teresa's Vs Aldergrove
Ballymena Vs Ardoyne
Sarsfields Vs St Paul's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 27, 2023, 10:59:03 PM
So who will Cargin play in the final?

Any of the 4 could make it.

I'll go first... Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 28, 2023, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Hopefully they let us host your game, surely the prefect venue for it


Creggan v Pg1 -cargin/ahoghill
Cargin v st marys- dunsilly/hannhstown
LD v dunloy - dunsilly
Rossa v lavey- corrigan

They are the sensible venues. No doubt st endas will be the venue for at least 1 of them....for some reasosn

What happened to Glenavy, whys it not used nomore? Brilliant venue.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2023, 07:59:45 AM
Quote from: geezer on August 28, 2023, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Hopefully they let us host your game, surely the prefect venue for it


Creggan v Pg1 -cargin/ahoghill
Cargin v st marys- dunsilly/hannhstown
LD v dunloy - dunsilly
Rossa v lavey- corrigan

They are the sensible venues. No doubt st endas will be the venue for at least 1 of them....for some reasosn

What happened to Glenavy, whys it not used nomore? Brilliant venue.

Not a good enough venue for a championship QF. Plenty of better alternatives
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 28, 2023, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: geezer on August 28, 2023, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Hopefully they let us host your game, surely the prefect venue for it


Creggan v Pg1 -cargin/ahoghill
Cargin v st marys- dunsilly/hannhstown
LD v dunloy - dunsilly
Rossa v lavey- corrigan

They are the sensible venues. No doubt st endas will be the venue for at least 1 of them....for some reasosn

What happened to Glenavy, whys it not used nomore? Brilliant venue.



Think Dunsilly is out of action
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 28, 2023, 09:26:37 AM
Its strange senior is neutral when intermediate(same format) is home advantage

Creggan PG1 i Cargin
Cargin Agh St Endas
LD Dunloy Ballymena (if dunsilly unavailable)
Rossa St Bs Corrigan i think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 28, 2023, 09:33:55 AM
What's the issue with dunsilly? Car parking ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 28, 2023, 09:49:58 AM
Quote from: stiffler on August 28, 2023, 09:33:55 AM
What's the issue with dunsilly? Car parking ?



Something to do with new gym they are building
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on August 28, 2023, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2023, 07:59:45 AM
Quote from: geezer on August 28, 2023, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Hopefully they let us host your game, surely the prefect venue for it


Creggan v Pg1 -cargin/ahoghill
Cargin v st marys- dunsilly/hannhstown
LD v dunloy - dunsilly
Rossa v lavey- corrigan

They are the sensible venues. No doubt st endas will be the venue for at least 1 of them....for some reasosn

What happened to Glenavy, whys it not used nomore? Brilliant venue.

Not a good enough venue for a championship QF. Plenty of better alternatives


I know, but it's consistently used. Terrible venue for both playing and watching.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 28, 2023, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: geezer on August 28, 2023, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2023, 07:59:45 AM
Quote from: geezer on August 28, 2023, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 27, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Absolute dead rubber EOC, was played like a challenge. One gets LD, the other gets PG1, probably not worth going to war about.

The serious stuff starts now we are at the knock out stages.
Hopefully they let us host your game, surely the prefect venue for it


Creggan v Pg1 -cargin/ahoghill
Cargin v st marys- dunsilly/hannhstown
LD v dunloy - dunsilly
Rossa v lavey- corrigan

They are the sensible venues. No doubt st endas will be the venue for at least 1 of them....for some reasosn

What happened to Glenavy, whys it not used nomore? Brilliant venue.

Not a good enough venue for a championship QF. Plenty of better alternatives


I know, but it's consistently used. Terrible venue for both playing and watching.

Can't think why....... At least he hasn't redeveloped St Endas like Collie Donnelly did with Corrigan when Antrim chairman
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 28, 2023, 12:27:16 PM
Randalstown is a better venue than St Endas. It gets next to nothing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on August 28, 2023, 12:51:42 PM
St Endas is a perfect location for city teams playing South West teams.

The pitch was also in cracking condition last weekend for the Dunloy v rossa hurling championship game.

Hosting a big championship game also requires plenty of effort.

How many clubs are actually willing and wanting to host a game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 28, 2023, 01:32:11 PM
I would say its not worth the hassle hosting games. What do the clubs actually get?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 28, 2023, 01:51:56 PM
Most Derry knockout games are at Owenbeg, maybe asking a bit much of St Johns to do that. Our club enjoying hosting games lately i think its a good way of showing off your facilities.
Bad experience at St Enda's from a couple of years ago, parking so far away and viewing positions not great either but i think the pitch is great and so are the people who organise up there on match day.
Ahoghill was fine because of the slope at the changing room side gave a good viewing. Dunsilly recently has been enjoyable especially the games under lights but apparently out of action at the minute. Corrigan still number one because of the stand and pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 28, 2023, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 28, 2023, 01:51:56 PM
Most Derry knockout games are at Owenbeg, maybe asking a bit much of St Johns to do that. Our club enjoying hosting games lately i think its a good way of showing off your facilities.
Bad experience at St Enda's from a couple of years ago, parking so far away and viewing positions not great either but i think the pitch is great and so are the people who organise up there on match day.
Ahoghill was fine because of the slope at the changing room side gave a good viewing. Dunsilly recently has been enjoyable especially the games under lights but apparently out of action at the minute. Corrigan still number one because of the stand and pitch.

Owenbeg is perfect. Good location. Training pitches. Main pitch with stand. Dunsilly shouldve been our owenbeg. Pitch number 1 gets flogged! start of the year it was closed, during a bad spell of weather mind you but still.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Upandover on August 28, 2023, 06:55:29 PM
Is the pitch at davitt park too small?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 29, 2023, 09:12:39 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 28, 2023, 12:51:42 PM
St Endas is a perfect location for city teams playing South West teams.

The pitch was also in cracking condition last weekend for the Dunloy v rossa hurling championship game.

Hosting a big championship game also requires plenty of effort.

How many clubs are actually willing and wanting to host a game?

Disagree, parking horrific viewing areas for the game also isn't great.

Good pitch bad Venue.

Corrigan kept for the final only?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 10:16:56 AM
Do top of groups not have ground advantage for quarter finals....?

Procedure from.last year changed......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 10:23:23 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 10:16:56 AM
Do top of groups not have ground advantage for quarter finals....?

Procedure from.last year changed......

Where did you play Lamhs last year, Dunsilly? was that a group game or quarter or semi?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 29, 2023, 11:00:38 AM
I know The area it is in maybe tough to find somewhere, but finding a field or something close by Dunsilly which they could turn into parking facilities would be brilliant.

Great pitch and changing rooms etc and with the new Gym going in.

If the right steps are taken (which im unsure if there are plans to or not) Dunsilly could really be turned into something special.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 29, 2023, 11:07:33 AM
The hard shoulder provides parking for medium sized games. Dunsilly and Junction 1 are a 15 minurte walk(max)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on August 29, 2023, 11:08:21 AM
When will the dates/fixtures be confirmed for the SFC and IFC? There wont be any on the friday I assume due to natural light
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 29, 2023, 11:09:17 AM
Dunsilly is fantastic for games. But its a big ask for the pitch to carry county teams of all ages all year then a lot of our club championship
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 29, 2023, 11:40:40 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 29, 2023, 11:00:38 AM
I know The area it is in maybe tough to find somewhere, but finding a field or something close by Dunsilly which they could turn into parking facilities would be brilliant.

Great pitch and changing rooms etc and with the new Gym going in.

If the right steps are taken (which im unsure if there are plans to or not) Dunsilly could really be turned into something special.

It already should be special.

Why the need for 3 pitches there?

2 pitches, one with a terrace at least, if not a covered stand like Corrigan, should have been the way to go.

It would also have left room to build the changing rooms on the pitch side of the bridge and created more space for the car park.

Whoever made the calls on the layout of that space back then made a complete hash of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 29, 2023, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 10:16:56 AM
Do top of groups not have ground advantage for quarter finals....?

Procedure from.last year changed......

Not sure what you're talking about here

2022 quarter finals

Cargin v LD @ dunsilly
Portglenone  v GNM @ dunsilly
Aghagallon v St Brids @ hannahstown
Rossa v Creggan @ Hightown, or the swamp as it was that day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on August 29, 2023, 12:07:32 PM
My predictions for the next round:

Cargin v Aghagallon = Cargin win by 7
LD V Dunloy = LD win by 4
Portglenone v Creggan = Creggan win by 4
Rossa v St Brigid's = St Brigid's win by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 29, 2023, 12:17:50 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 29, 2023, 11:40:40 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 29, 2023, 11:00:38 AM
I know The area it is in maybe tough to find somewhere, but finding a field or something close by Dunsilly which they could turn into parking facilities would be brilliant.

Great pitch and changing rooms etc and with the new Gym going in.

If the right steps are taken (which im unsure if there are plans to or not) Dunsilly could really be turned into something special.

It already should be special.

Why the need for 3 pitches there?

2 pitches, one with a terrace at least, if not a covered stand like Corrigan, should have been the way to go.

It would also have left room to build the changing rooms on the pitch side of the bridge and created more space for the car park.

Whoever made the calls on the layout of that space back then made a complete hash of it.

Totally agree was poorly managed at the top level, something gives me the idea they wanted to make the teams run through that tunnel thinking it would be special, in it's truth an awful idea  :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
The tunnel is there because the train runs above it....

Not sure of the ins and outs of it but you can't have cars going through to the other side of that tunnel as its a complete bottle neck, there is plenty of places to park the car, either in the actual carpark or the field besides the changing rooms, that just needs to be developed into a proper parking area.

Tunnel side at the bottom pitch there is plenty room to develop a covered stand of sorts with toilets

Maybe these things are in the pipeline I don't know, but if we have learned anything from Casement is that planning and paying isn't just as easy as saying what it needs.

What it has done (as Ive seen it) is using it for a lot of the development games and its perfect position just off the motorway, which suits Belfast, SW and North Antrim players.

There is no parking at Corrigan which is one area that needs the use of other places like the school nearby.

I'd say that it has a lot more potential 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 29, 2023, 12:38:47 PM
Im not sure there would be enough room on the changing room side. But the slope on the far side could be made use of, terrace area with a cover is all thats needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 29, 2023, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
The tunnel is there because the train runs above it....

Not sure of the ins and outs of it but you can't have cars going through to the other side of that tunnel as its a complete bottle neck, there is plenty of places to park the car, either in the actual carpark or the field besides the changing rooms, that just needs to be developed into a proper parking area.

Tunnel side at the bottom pitch there is plenty room to develop a covered stand of sorts with toilets

Maybe these things are in the pipeline I don't know, but if we have learned anything from Casement is that planning and paying isn't just as easy as saying what it needs.

What it has done (as Ive seen it) is using it for a lot of the development games and its perfect position just off the motorway, which suits Belfast, SW and North Antrim players.

There is no parking at Corrigan which is one area that needs the use of other places like the school nearby.

I'd say that it has a lot more potential

Yes but a lot of that potential could have already have been wrapped up in the original design.

Pitches aren't cheap to install, so yes while development squads get good use of it, especially the hurlers as most are North Antrim based so it saves travelling to Belfast, i still think 2 pitches would have been sufficient and the money for the 3rd put into something like a terrace or to surface the car park.

The grass slope on the far side of pitch 1 would have been perfect for a concrete terrace.

I can't recall but are all 3 pitches floodlit? If so there is more money spent.

Having the changing rooms on the other side of the tunnel was an awful idea.

The company I worked for at the time tendered to build that changing room and as i live so close to Dunsilly they sent me to survey it before the pitches were open to the public.

And my first thought as soon as i walked the site was that it was a mistake to put the changing rooms there and that the 3 pitches would never get sufficient use and i still stick by that initial impression.

Hopefully some day they find the money to develop more and put it right but I can see any money for the foreseeable being ploughed into Casement and Dunsilly will sit as it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
We did purchase 12 acres of land a while back just a few hundred yards above the Randalstown roundabout on the Antrim road...

The plan was to develop into pitches....

Anybody know what happened.....I presume Antrim still own that land.....??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 29, 2023, 01:55:11 PM
I think the back pitch was allocated to Antrim club. They played there at the start but seem to be back into the centre of antrim lately. Not sure the reason. The two back pitches arent full size either. And i think only one pitch is fully floodlit at the minute
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on August 29, 2023, 02:46:19 PM
Fixtures probably be out tonight?
Could they run double headers? Can't really run 4 along with the intermediate all the same?

Cargin v Aghagallon = Cargin win by 9
LD V Dunloy = LD win by 4
Portglenone v Creggan = PG1 by 3
Rossa v St Brigid's = St Brigid's win by 1

Semis

LD/PG1
Cargin/NB

Quote from: Caesar on August 29, 2023, 12:07:32 PM
My predictions for the next round:

Cargin v Aghagallon = Cargin win by 7
LD V Dunloy = LD win by 4
Portglenone v Creggan = Creggan win by 4
Rossa v St Brigid's = St Brigid's win by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 29, 2023, 04:20:18 PM
Cargin by 5
LD By 2
Creggan by 1
St Brigids by 4

Glenravel by 5
Aldergrove by 7
All Saints by 3
Sarsfields by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on August 29, 2023, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 29, 2023, 04:20:18 PM
Cargin by 5
LD By 2
Creggan by 1
St Brigids by 4

Glenravel by 5
Aldergrove by 7
All Saints by 3
Sarsfields by 1

After that performance at the weekend I am not to optimistic. We have a lot of improving to do to get pass Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
CCC did meet last evening 28th, but championship dates/venues still a guarded secret.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
CCC did meet last evening 28th, but championship dates/venues still a guarded secret.

Sure they are home venues for those that topped their groups......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on August 29, 2023, 10:15:01 PM
Is that not only Intermediate MR2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on August 29, 2023, 10:15:01 PM
Is that not only Intermediate MR2?

I'm having a chuckle  ;D

Yes all neutral venues for senior like last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 30, 2023, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
CCC did meet last evening 28th, but championship dates/venues still a guarded secret.

Sure they are home venues for those that topped their groups......

Jesus oh you got to watch what you say on here , got to fact check everything before posting.

Maybe we should not let you forget about some of the misatkes you make  :o :o

Bita crack MR2 Don't take it to heart  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 11:05:18 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 30, 2023, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
CCC did meet last evening 28th, but championship dates/venues still a guarded secret.

Sure they are home venues for those that topped their groups......

Jesus oh you got to watch what you say on here , got to fact check everything before posting.

Maybe we should not let you forget about some of the misatkes you make  :o :o

Bita crack MR2 Don't take it to heart  ;)

Trust me, any mistakes that I make (and there will be) I'm properly informed multiple times by multiple people around the ground in not so nice language.

So CB is getting a light touch ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2023, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 11:05:18 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on August 30, 2023, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2023, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
CCC did meet last evening 28th, but championship dates/venues still a guarded secret.

Sure they are home venues for those that topped their groups......

Jesus oh you got to watch what you say on here , got to fact check everything before posting.

Maybe we should not let you forget about some of the misatkes you make  :o :o

Bita crack MR2 Don't take it to heart  ;)

Trust me, any mistakes that I make (and there will be) I'm properly informed multiple times by multiple people around the ground in not so nice language.

So CB is getting a light touch ;)

Saying nathin...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 30, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
Just a personal opinion but I prefer Dunsilly to Corrigan - better atmosphere, better view.  Something doesn't work at Corrigan the way they split the two terraces with the stand in the middle, plus the big black hole behind the bottom goal. That's no offence to the St John's volunteers who always do a great job.  Always liked Glenavy as well but it seems to have fallen away for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on August 30, 2023, 01:25:13 PM
Dunsilly is in action 2/4 Quarter finals being held there.

For big games do LD use their new pitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:56:19 PM
Cargin minors playing at 12 also
Not giving anyone a chance to get to both games without a panic
Dunsilly should be used for all senior QFs bar the Rossa st Brigids game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 30, 2023, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:56:19 PM
Cargin minors playing at 12 also
Not giving anyone a chance to get to both games without a panic
Dunsilly should be used for all senior QFs bar the Rossa st Brigids game

Anticipated such.......but hey such decision will probably provoke a positive response....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on August 30, 2023, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 30, 2023, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:56:19 PM
Cargin minors playing at 12 also
Not giving anyone a chance to get to both games without a panic
Dunsilly should be used for all senior QFs bar the Rossa st Brigids game

Anticipated such.......but hey such decision will probably provoke a positive response....
Minor game at 12 and Senior game at 1.30? That would be ridiculous, and from a road safety point of view pretty irresponsible.  Surely an easy one to sort.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on August 30, 2023, 03:33:22 PM
Why not play the minor game as a curtain raiser at LD?

LD V Dunloy Friday 08 Sept Dunsilly 1900
Creggan V PG1 Sat 09 Dunsilly 1600
Cargin V Aghagallon Sun 10 LD 1330
NB V Rossa Sun 10 Corrigan 1600
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 30, 2023, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on August 30, 2023, 03:33:22 PM
Why not play the minor game as a curtain raiser at LD?

LD V Dunloy Friday 08 Sept Dunsilly 1900
Creggan V PG1 Sat 09 Dunsilly 1600
Cargin V Aghagallon Sun 10 LD 1330
NB V Rossa Sun 10 Corrigan 1600

Glenravel may prefer the fixture at Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too

Aghnagallon played Naomh Brid there last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too

Aghnagallon played Naomh Brid there last year.




They did although wasn't a repeat of previous years county final for sake of a mile why not play a double header in corrigan park ,that would mean one gate maybe is the problem
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 06:02:16 PM
I'd like to have a gripe myself about the lack of promotion for the upcoming reserve final, the big names that are still playing for St Galls, all ireland winners. Against an up a coming group of young lads from Cargin. Don't even think they've told the teams where the final is in 7 days never mind promote it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2023, 07:24:19 PM
That should be a really interesting game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on August 30, 2023, 07:31:11 PM
Sure Cargin would be a great venue for Creggan v pg1,even our pitch for cargin v Aghagallon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 09:15:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2023, 07:24:19 PM
That should be a really interesting game too.

I'd say the young legs will run the ball through our 40 year olds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 09:46:48 PM
Them oul 40 year olds won't be easy beat MR2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2023, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 09:46:48 PM
Them oul 40 year olds won't be easy beat MR2

They had a big say in keeping yous up too
Are you eligible or overrage ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2023, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 09:46:48 PM
Them oul 40 year olds won't be easy beat MR2

They had a big say in keeping yous up too
Are you eligible or overrage ?

Unfortunately I'm in 50 to 55 bracket  ;D

Played in few reserve finals!

I'm sure both teams will definitely go to war during that game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on August 30, 2023, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 09:46:48 PM
Them oul 40 year olds won't be easy beat MR2

It's actually not a great sign for St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2023, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2023, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 09:46:48 PM
Them oul 40 year olds won't be easy beat MR2

They had a big say in keeping yous up too
Are you eligible or overrage ?

Unfortunately I'm in 50 to 55 bracket  ;D

Played in few reserve finals!

I'm sure both teams will definitely go to war during that game

Same bracket as myself
Well overrage then !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 30, 2023, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on August 30, 2023, 09:46:48 PM
Them oul 40 year olds won't be easy beat MR2

It's actually not a great sign for St Galls

We've changed it in fairness, the manager has put his faith with a far younger group which has been playing senior rather than mixing with both teams, it's a bold move but it's about putting faith into younger generation at senior level and the reserves is about lads at the end of their playing days and few young lads not at 'that' level playing their own level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2023, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too

Aghnagallon played Naomh Brid there last year.
Aghagallon* it's not a hard word to say or write, yet belfasties still continue to stick a random n in the middle  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 31, 2023, 01:11:22 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2023, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too

Aghnagallon played Naomh Brid there last year.
Aghagallon* it's not a hard word to say or write, yet belfasties still continue to stick a random n in the middle  ;D

f**k me the grammar police from Armagh are out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2023, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2023, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too

Aghnagallon played Naomh Brid there last year.
Aghagallon* it's not a hard word to say or write, yet belfasties still continue to stick a random n in the middle  ;D

It comes up on predictive text so I just stick with it, plus it seems to piss you off so it's a win win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on August 31, 2023, 08:43:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2023, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on August 30, 2023, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2023, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on August 30, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
New pitch is first class although a very strange venue for such a big game
I smell an ambush be interesting to see the ref now too

Aghnagallon played Naomh Brid there last year.
Aghagallon* it's not a hard word to say or write, yet belfasties still continue to stick a random n in the middle  ;D

It comes up on predictive text so I just stick with it, plus it seems to piss you off so it's a win win
Aye only because you misspelt it that many times by thinking that was how it's spelt  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on August 31, 2023, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 30, 2023, 12:53:56 PM
Just a personal opinion but I prefer Dunsilly to Corrigan - better atmosphere, better view.  Something doesn't work at Corrigan the way they split the two terraces with the stand in the middle, plus the big black hole behind the bottom goal. That's no offence to the St John's volunteers who always do a great job.  Always liked Glenavy as well but it seems to have fallen away for whatever reason.

I know, having a stand for people to sit in and terracing for people to get a decent view of the game is a big backward step for the county ::) 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
We did purchase 12 acres of land a while back just a few hundred yards above the Randalstown roundabout on the Antrim road...

The plan was to develop into pitches....

Anybody know what happened.....I presume Antrim still own that land.....??

I know that particular plot of land was advertised for sale a couple of years / 18 months ago.

Don't know if it was ever sold. At the time I thought it would be a stupid move to sell, as through time it could be developed as a championship venue.

Road network handy for almost every team in the county.

But, after all,  it is Antrim, who have managed to completely f**k up the Casement project.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2023, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
We did purchase 12 acres of land a while back just a few hundred yards above the Randalstown roundabout on the Antrim road...

The plan was to develop into pitches....

Anybody know what happened.....I presume Antrim still own that land.....??

I know that particular plot of land was advertised for sale a couple of years / 18 months ago.

Don't know if it was ever sold. At the time I thought it would be a stupid move to sell, as through time it could be developed as a championship venue.

Road network handy for almost every team in the county.

But, after all,  it is Antrim, who have managed to completely f**k up the Casement project.

That was the idea, and a good one at the time....but as you say, 'it is Antrim'.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2023, 03:13:20 PM
Tbf Antrim are only partially responsible for the casement project - I would put the fault a lot more with ulster gaa...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on August 31, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
We did purchase 12 acres of land a while back just a few hundred yards above the Randalstown roundabout on the Antrim road...

The plan was to develop into pitches....

Anybody know what happened.....I presume Antrim still own that land.....??

I know that particular plot of land was advertised for sale a couple of years / 18 months ago.

Don't know if it was ever sold. At the time I thought it would be a stupid move to sell, as through time it could be developed as a championship venue.

Road network handy for almost every team in the county.

But, after all,  it is Antrim, who have managed to completely f**k up the Casement project.

Is it near Ballygrooby roundabout?

Didn't hear about this before and curious as to where exactly it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on August 31, 2023, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on August 31, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on August 29, 2023, 01:05:40 PM
We did purchase 12 acres of land a while back just a few hundred yards above the Randalstown roundabout on the Antrim road...

The plan was to develop into pitches....

Anybody know what happened.....I presume Antrim still own that land.....??

I know that particular plot of land was advertised for sale a couple of years / 18 months ago.

Don't know if it was ever sold. At the time I thought it would be a stupid move to sell, as through time it could be developed as a championship venue.

Road network handy for almost every team in the county.

But, after all,  it is Antrim, who have managed to completely f**k up the Casement project.

Is it near Ballygrooby roundabout?

Didn't hear about this before and curious as to where exactly it is.

Is indeed a few hundred yards towards Antrim on the left  and the vendor was one of your own....Tir na Nog man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 01, 2023, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2023, 03:13:20 PM
Tbf Antrim are only partially responsible for the casement project - I would put the fault a lot more with ulster gaa...

Ulster GAA are at fault, however Antrim have contributed to the balls up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 05, 2023, 07:57:14 AM
Wonder how the wee G men got on with their Ulster appeal last night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on September 05, 2023, 10:34:46 AM
Iknow creggan are favourites for this game but I just have a feeling that pg1 could pull something out of the bag here and cause an upset. Heard they have a few big names in training them aswell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 05, 2023, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: thegooch13 on September 05, 2023, 10:34:46 AM
Iknow creggan are favourites for this game but I just have a feeling that pg1 could pull something out of the bag here and cause an upset. Heard they have a few big names in training them aswell

But are Creggan really favourites, everything this year points to PG1 being favourites they have had a far better year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 05, 2023, 10:54:20 AM
Here's hoping Gooch, all on the day. Shouldn't be much between us.

Hearing positive reports that Aaron Douglas and Kevin Niblock have entered St Malachys into grade A competition at year 11, having won C grade last year...they also won Antrim Cup with that squad last year too, so green shoots appearing and big shout out for showing some ambition alongside commitment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 05, 2023, 11:16:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 05, 2023, 10:54:20 AM
Here's hoping Gooch, all on the day. Shouldn't be much between us.

Hearing positive reports that Aaron Douglas and Kevin Niblock have entered St Malachys into grade A competition at year 11, having won C grade last year...they also won Antrim Cup with that squad last year too, so green shoots appearing and big shout out for showing some ambition alongside commitment.
That is good, and good to see former players trying to drive it on a bit (hasn't been the case around Belfast schools I hear)
Creggan v Portglenone will be very interesting, weighing it all up I see a narrow Portglenone victory, its all quiet from Creggan which is dangerous for others, but they may have too many men back from injury too late to be at their best. In saying that it could go either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on September 05, 2023, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 05, 2023, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: thegooch13 on September 05, 2023, 10:34:46 AM
Iknow creggan are favourites for this game but I just have a feeling that pg1 could pull something out of the bag here and cause an upset. Heard they have a few big names in training them aswell

But are Creggan really favourites, everything this year points to PG1 being favourites they have had a far better year

Well the bookies say so, pg1 also missing their captain... However I heard mick kelly is back from australia and could make a difference in the middle third. Think they are worth a punt anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 05, 2023, 11:47:32 AM
A lot will hinge on McAleese and Delargy availability? Rhough PG1 have very good strength in their squad. Creggan been very quiet and coming in under the radar i think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 05, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
50/50 game that maybe the league champions new found swagger may swing it in their favour Creggan won't be easily beaten in some ways similar to Lamh Dhearg bringing the physical side of it but an interesting game indeed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on September 06, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
Dunloy
Creggan
Cargin
St.Bridgets all to win


Glenravel
Ballymena
Aldergrove
Sarsfields all to win heard it here first ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 06, 2023, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 06, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
Dunloy
Creggan
Cargin
St.Bridgets all to win


Glenravel
Ballymena
Aldergrove
Sarsfields all to win heard it here first ;)

Those are the 8 I voted for on the Saffron Voice Instagram poll. Dunloy probably more hope than expectation but sure you never know.

Add on Laochra Loch Lao and Eire Og and that was my 10.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 06, 2023, 02:21:39 PM
a lot of good contests this weekend - the rossa vs st bridgets game will be the tightest IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 06, 2023, 03:16:58 PM
Creggan PG1 a good game. Cargin to win handy and fancy St Brigids too. An upset with Dunloy and LD possible. Hearing a suspension rumour too out of LD.

Intermediate should go to plan. Cant see any slip ups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 06, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
DL getting a lengthy suspension ?

Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 06, 2023, 03:16:58 PM
Creggan PG1 a good game. Cargin to win handy and fancy St Brigids too. An upset with Dunloy and LD possible. Hearing a suspension rumour too out of LD.

Intermediate should go to plan. Cant see any slip ups
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 06, 2023, 04:45:11 PM
Reserve final on tonight Dunsilly 7 oclock, not much mention on the socials Ticket only
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 05:01:43 PM
It's seniors or nothing for antrim social media in most cases. That and business.

(BTW it is not a task I would want to do however I do think the coverage of it is poor. Yes Sean Kelly was good but you get posted senior championship draws and nothing else, county underage gets little coverage and saffron business forum etc gets flat out coverage. I get we need money to sustain ouselves but we'll get more of it if we market our things right)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2023, 05:30:25 PM
Saffron Gael had decent report on both reserve finals ...

But it's only reserve, outside of the the clubs involved not many are or will be bothered to turn up, good weather or not.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 06, 2023, 05:46:48 PM
SENIOR
LD V Dunloy - LD by narrow margin.
Creggan V PG1 - Struggling with this one. PG1 injuries should see Creggan edge it.
Cargin V A'gallon - Cargin but this will be tighter than people think.
St.Brigids V Rossa - Lavey crew now firing, Lavey to win by 5+

INTERMEDIATE
Ardoyne V Ballymena - Draw/Pens
Glenravel V Gorts - Glenravel by 5+
St.Teresas V N.Seamas - Tight one. NS to shade it
Sarsfields V St.Pauls - St.Pauls to cruise through in derby by 4+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 06, 2023, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 05:01:43 PM
It's seniors or nothing for antrim social media in most cases. That and business.

(BTW it is not a task I would want to do however I do think the coverage of it is poor. Yes Sean Kelly was good but you get posted senior championship draws and nothing else, county underage gets little coverage and saffron business forum etc gets flat out coverage. I get we need money to sustain ouselves but we'll get more of it if we market our things right)

I take it your club has a busy p r o I T G busy sending a selection of your club activities and media including S G ignore....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 09:34:22 PM
It has a brilliant pro.

Nothing to do with the saffron Gael as they are fantastic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2023, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Was a lovely night out watching reserve football, I've done a few reserve games this year, you'd barely get one man and his dog staying behind to watch.

The kids ( a couple of aul lads) of Cargin played very well to close out an entertaining game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2023, 07:56:47 AM
Good article in the Irish news about Dunloy footballers. They are definitely a club who have produced some good footballers over the years despite hurling has taken precedence. Them and ld should be very interesting.

Good win for them in that reserve cup last night too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on September 07, 2023, 08:10:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 07, 2023, 07:56:47 AM
Good article in the Irish news about Dunloy footballers. They are definitely a club who have produced some good footballers over the years e hurling has taken precedence. Them and ld should be very interesting.

Good win for them in that reserve cup last night too.

I fancy them tomorrow night to cause an upset, very good side
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 07, 2023, 07:56:47 AM
Good article in the Irish news about Dunloy footballers. They are definitely a club who have produced some good footballers over the years e hurling has taken precedence. Them and ld should be very interesting.

Good win for them in that reserve cup last night too.

Very good article, I remember minor football Championship first round going down to Dunloy on a wet Friday night, we went down with a very good minor team, not expecting a difficult game, we came a way (luckily) with a 1 point win, Ally elliott and dick Pappy and the the rest of that cracking hurling team all were top footballers, they got to a senior semi final I think one year or certainly a quarterfinal at Casement that I remember
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 06, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
DL getting a lengthy suspension ?

Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 06, 2023, 03:16:58 PM
Creggan PG1 a good game. Cargin to win handy and fancy St Brigids too. An upset with Dunloy and LD possible. Hearing a suspension rumour too out of LD.

Intermediate should go to plan. Cant see any slip ups

3 months
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2023, 09:14:15 AM
must be a while since Ld and Dunloy played a senior football match against each other
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2023, 09:27:36 AM
Pathway to senior football too. To me it's crucial to the development of your senior team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 07, 2023, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games

Reserve Football  is more enjoyable to watch, open free flowing football !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on September 07, 2023, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 06, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
DL getting a lengthy suspension ?

Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 06, 2023, 03:16:58 PM
Creggan PG1 a good game. Cargin to win handy and fancy St Brigids too. An upset with Dunloy and LD possible. Hearing a suspension rumour too out of LD.

Intermediate should go to plan. Cant see any slip ups

3 months

A 3 month suspension should be nailed on, but this particular player always seems to get off the hook for disciplinary matters.

What way does a suspension for x length of time work when its approaching the off season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2023, 10:25:09 AM
Initials please of player in topic??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 07, 2023, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 07, 2023, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 06, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
DL getting a lengthy suspension ?

Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 06, 2023, 03:16:58 PM
Creggan PG1 a good game. Cargin to win handy and fancy St Brigids too. An upset with Dunloy and LD possible. Hearing a suspension rumour too out of LD.

Intermediate should go to plan. Cant see any slip ups

3 months

A 3 month suspension should be nailed on, but this particular player always seems to get off the hook for disciplinary matters.

What way does a suspension for x length of time work when its approaching the off season?

I think it plays out as a 12 week ban, whereas match bans carry over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 07, 2023, 10:30:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 07, 2023, 10:25:09 AM
Initials please of player in topic??

DL BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2023, 10:33:15 AM
Cracking weekend in prospect.

Tonight Under 15 semi finals. Followed by 3 days of great cship action (best club weekend of the year) then throw in a dollop of international rugby and soccer to further entertain.

Topped off on Monday by ten days on the Sunshine Coast. Home then in time for semi final weekend. Question is....who will be in it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 07, 2023, 10:38:15 AM
Will be interested to see if the Coynty will be bullied, no doubt FQ,BT,TMcC or ML will no doubt squeeze the County Board,any other player/club would take their punishment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games

Not the case in Cargin Reserve football showen serious respect by the club and the senior management.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2023, 11:18:25 AM
I honestly haven't heard a word about this tbh!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2023, 11:31:07 AM
BS you're slipping!  ;D

Yeah big weekend of football in store. A lot of games could go either way in the senior. Cargin predicted by pretty much everyone to win and Jim Stynes gone missing so dunno what that says...

Seem to be clear favourites in most of the intermediate / junior games so be interesting to see if any upsets. U17 looks interesting too. St Pauls probably favourites after beating st brigids but I think st endas probably not too bad at this age. Glenravel Cargin looks like a decent enough tie too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 11:37:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 07, 2023, 09:27:36 AM
Pathway to senior football too. To me it's crucial to the development of your senior team.

Couldnt agree more. When you reserves are going well too it helps the seniors. Cargin always have it. Creggan PG1 too. Great chance for 4 or 5 St Galls reserves to learn from the best at a lower level and kick on

Shoutout to Dunloy reserves too, buzz around senior team at the minute. Played Glenravel in the final they are also going well at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: delgany on September 07, 2023, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: Caesar on September 07, 2023, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 06, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
DL getting a lengthy suspension ?

Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 06, 2023, 03:16:58 PM
Creggan PG1 a good game. Cargin to win handy and fancy St Brigids too. An upset with Dunloy and LD possible. Hearing a suspension rumour too out of LD.

Intermediate should go to plan. Cant see any slip ups

3 months

A 3 month suspension should be nailed on, but this particular player always seems to get off the hook for disciplinary matters.

What way does a suspension for x length of time work when its approaching the off season?

I think it plays out as a 12 week ban, whereas match bans carry over

1 game ban for the offence (hurling championship) and 12 weeks for abuse to officials. Not sure there are too many grounds for an appeal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 01:46:44 PM
Question for MR2 and suppose anyone.

I always thought the mark from a kick out you had 4 seconds to play the ball and the attacking mark you had 15 seconds.
Last night a player caught a standard mark and the ref shouted 15 seconds.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2023, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 01:46:44 PM
Question for MR2 and suppose anyone.

I always thought the mark from a kick out you had 4 seconds to play the ball and the attacking mark you had 15 seconds.
Last night a player caught a standard mark and the ref shouted 15 seconds.


15 seconds for all 'marks'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 07, 2023, 03:08:10 PM
Enjoyable game last night, St Galls old guard ran out of puff a little in the second half (understandable). Kelly still fantastic player and Niblock before he ran out of diesel. Walked across the pitch after, great surface there. Quite like it as a venue now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2023, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 07, 2023, 03:08:10 PM
Enjoyable game last night, St Galls old guard ran out of puff a little in the second half (understandable). Kelly still fantastic player and Niblock before he ran out of diesel. Walked across the pitch after, great surface there. Quite like it as a venue now.

Great link up for the goal and we probably chased the goal too often and ran out of options and swapped.. Nibs hit the ground besides me with such a thud! He'll be sore today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 07, 2023, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games

Not the case in Cargin Reserve football showen serious respect by the club and the senior management.

Indeed the Cargin club treats reserve competition with utmost respect, senior management on the sideline with most it not all committee members attending...

Such was not the case within the ranks of Coiste Banaiste....presentation duties were left to Secretary CCC...County Charman or his deputy MIA.....

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2023, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 07, 2023, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games

Not the case in Cargin Reserve football showen serious respect by the club and the senior management.

Indeed the Cargin club treats reserve competition with utmost respect, senior management on the sideline with most it not all committee members attending...

Such was not the case within the ranks of Coiste Banaiste....presentation duties were left to Secretary CCC...County Charman or his deputy MIA.....

Who were you looking to present it? The pope? f**k me! If there's a whinge you're on it!

I'd be careful on the line this weekend if they read this post
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 07, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 07, 2023, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games

Not the case in Cargin Reserve football showen serious respect by the club and the senior management.

Indeed the Cargin club treats reserve competition with utmost respect, senior management on the sideline with most it not all committee members attending...

Such was not the case within the ranks of Coiste Banaiste....presentation duties were left to Secretary CCC...County Charman or his deputy MIA.....

Where you expecting Larry McCarthy ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 09:19:54 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 07, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 07, 2023, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 07, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 07, 2023, 09:15:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 06, 2023, 10:05:04 PM
Indeed ITG, Saffron Gael one of our biggest assets in promoting gaa culture across the county.  Imagine the void should for any reason they stop/cannot supply this great service.

Good reserve final tonight, Cargins young guns seeing it out against a host of aging legends of Antrims greatest ever club team, in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.

Good to hear there was a large crowd. Reserve football is 100% neglected and looked down on by club members and sometimes senior managers. A good reserve game is as entertaining as some senior games

Not the case in Cargin Reserve football showen serious respect by the club and the senior management.

Indeed the Cargin club treats reserve competition with utmost respect, senior management on the sideline with most it not all committee members attending...

Such was not the case within the ranks of Coiste Banaiste....presentation duties were left to Secretary CCC...County Charman or his deputy MIA.....

Where you expecting Larry McCarthy ?

Sorry, thought the discussion was on 'respect for reserve competition' my mistake......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Footblock on September 08, 2023, 09:35:16 AM
Big shock Bannside in U-15 championship. Most people thought Portglenone were nailed on to win that after winning the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2023, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: Footblock on September 08, 2023, 09:35:16 AM
Big shock Bannside in U-15 championship. Most people thought Portglenone were nailed on to win that after winning the league.

wouldnt have said nailed on, but would have been one of the favourites
St endas however are a hard team to play against. 13 men behind the ball a la current adult football
all other teams just go 15 v 15 at that age. Not sure how Portglenone went last night, maybe they tried to mirror them not sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 08, 2023, 10:21:20 AM
Dunloy v Lamh Dhearg-Dunloy by 1

Portglenone v Creggan- Ports by 2

Aghagallon v Cargin-Cargin by 1

St Brigids V Rossa-Rossa by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2023, 10:44:34 AM
First person I have seen that thinks Rossa will win. I think Rossa might win this one too.

LD by 3
Creggan by 3
Cargin by 6
Rossa by 2

Intermediate
Ballymena by 5
Glenravel by 4
Aldergrove by 4
Sarsfields by 2

Junior
Laochra Loch Lao by 2
Eire Og by 4 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 08, 2023, 10:47:30 AM
LD by 2
PG1 by 4
Cargin by 5
Brigids by 1 after ET

Intermediate
Ballymena by 3
Glenravel by 8
Aldergrove by 2
Sarsfields by 1

Junior
Laochra Loch Lao by 5
Eire Og by 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2023, 12:28:02 PM
No excuses from our under 15s defeat last night. St Endas look well organised and move the ball well. Lots of talent on the pitch and standard of football high. This is a competitive age group, St Paul's had a big win too, definite signs of a renaissance  there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on September 08, 2023, 01:35:11 PM
Are Aghagallon being totally written off against Cargin decent league campaign and should have beat them in county final last year? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 08, 2023, 01:55:51 PM
Aghnagallon have a couple of men serving suspensions do they not? Under appeal though I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 08, 2023, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: statto on September 08, 2023, 01:35:11 PM
Are Aghagallon being totally written off against Cargin decent league campaign and should have beat them in county final last year?

Shouda Wouda Coulda...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 08, 2023, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: statto on September 08, 2023, 01:35:11 PM
Are Aghagallon being totally written off against Cargin decent league campaign and should have beat them in county final last year?

Shouda Wouda Coulda...

Coulda won eleven more senior titles only to lose in that number of finals...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 05:20:47 PM
So volunteers required for white coat duty...hands up......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 08, 2023, 05:30:30 PM
Cargin and Creggan by 6,Dunloy and Rossa by 3,our boys BS would've classed it a 60/40 game in their favour last night,good performance by our lads especially 2nd half, your lads had a good 1st half,a few calls by your management  I thought, young Mc Keever was causing us a bit off bother inside and then they seemed to bring him out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 08, 2023, 05:31:56 PM
But HH is right,very little between a few teams at that level,GNM,MG Biddies and ourselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2023, 05:47:56 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 05:20:47 PM
So volunteers required for white coat duty...hands up......

The way you were struggling walking off the pitch at halftime you'd be best to use the armchair tonight
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 08, 2023, 07:24:11 PM
HH what happened ur lads,good result for St Paul's,was expecting to meet ur lads,injuries?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2023, 07:37:46 PM
Good game this. Jordan one of the best in county and if Dunloy to win needs stopped. Dunloy not too shabby and pity Molloy off injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2023, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 08, 2023, 07:24:11 PM
HH what happened ur lads,good result for St Paul's,was expecting to meet ur lads,injuries?

Just missing one regular starter who was on holidays
Point down at HT and were one up them one stage but conceded 2 goals on a row and that was that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2023, 09:05:14 PM
Division 3 team in senior semi !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 08, 2023, 09:05:50 PM
LD😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:05:57 PM
Hon Dunloy 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:05:57 PM
Hon Dunloy 😃

Been a long time since Cuchullian's won a senior county football title......1936, but they look on the road again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on September 08, 2023, 09:29:06 PM
Great to see Dunloy winning but where did the ref get over 8min of extra time from????????????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:05:57 PM
Hon Dunloy 😃

Been a long time since Cuchullian's won a senior county football title......1936, but they look on the road again.

I'm conflicted. Equidistant between dunloy and portglenone, who to shout for 😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2023, 09:49:28 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:05:57 PM
Hon Dunloy 😃

Been a long time since Cuchullian's won a senior county football title......1936, but they look on the road again.

I'm conflicted. Equidistant between dunloy and portglenone, who to shout for 😀

Cheer for Creggan then
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 08, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
Great entertainment in dunsilly this evening, I thought Dunloy were fully deserving of the win. Serious pace and directness in the forward line. On another note, I thought the ref had a good game, he didn't fall for the usual dark arts we have seen from LD over the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 08, 2023, 09:55:21 PM
Could question the injury time if you like but the better team on the night went through, other than the fortuitous goal by Ld in normal time Dunloy looked like they were coming strong, then pulled away at the end of extra time quite handily.
Only my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2023, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 08, 2023, 09:29:06 PM
Great to see Dunloy winning but where did the ref get over 8min of extra time from????????????

He's explained this before he has every second accounted for and keeps the players informed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barelegs on September 08, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
LD were poor Jordan and McKeown aside but thought Darren gave Dunloy the benefit of the doubt on some big decisions. Have no idea where he found 8 minutes of injury time. Seemed to play on until he got Dunloy an equaliser. Murray looked to have a goal in the first half extra time kicked out of the net it was so far over the line and the 45 to bring Dunloy level in the second half of extra time didn't look like a 45. Couldn't see where Finucane got a touch.

Dunloy certainly looked the fitter side. Lamh Dhearg missing Lynch and Mervyn badly - they were very open in the middle of the defence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2023, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 08, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
Great entertainment in dunsilly this evening, I thought Dunloy were fully deserving of the win. Serious pace and directness in the forward line. On another note, I thought the ref had a good game, he didn't fall for the usual dark arts we have seen from LD over the last few years.

Their men were down a lot and they kind of paid the price.

Fair play to Dunloy. Also shows you how important conditioning is in football. Half the Dunloy ones have it from county hurling. Mckeown should be worth a look for county. Smith at cub for Dunloy very good too.

Busy schedule awaits now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2023, 10:19:03 PM
Good game of football with the result not as big a surprise given the way a lot of those Dunloy lads went through their juvenile careers picking up football medals for fun. They have the wind at their back now and won't fear anyone that's for sure. Declan Smyth looked every inch a county footballer there tonight, and Mc Keown too, I'm sure both are firmly in Andys notebook after watching that.

The supreme Marc Jordan didn't deserve to be on a losing team tonight, his performance as good as good as I have seen in a long long time.

Antrim footballer of the year 2023.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 08, 2023, 10:20:18 PM
Well done to mr2, no interest in players trying to buy frees & if any slabbering at frees (LD) move it forward. Job well done.

As said previous, bar jordan & mckeown, LD were poor. Missed Lynch through the middle, couldnt stop the run.

But fair play to Dunloy, well deserved. Smyth at 6 was excellent. As were the 2 elliots. Will be a massive threat in the semis and maybe beyond. Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 08, 2023, 11:12:00 PM
Good shout Geezer, well done Mr2, you can be well pleased with that performance, tbf.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 08, 2023, 11:13:08 PM
Is that three QF exits on the bounce for LD now? Dunloy always were gonna give that a lash and Lynch missing from middle helped limited player an all as he is he stands his ground.huge result and possibly not only so called shock of weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 09, 2023, 12:32:16 AM
Behind the Dunloy bench at full time,they were livid saying C Murray hit M Smith a cowardly punch walking past him,officials conveniently never seen it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 07:57:28 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2023, 06:44:14 AM
Having a go at the officials for not seeing an incident that you didn't even see yourself.

;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 09, 2023, 09:42:14 AM
I didn't see it DIE,but then I wasn't officiating,just saying what they were cross about,and what I seen was no 23 with a busted mouth,DMc K had a good game in my eyes,not having a pop at them,just repeating what they said about the officials conveniently bot seeing it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 09, 2023, 09:44:57 AM
Creggan will be fancying Thier chances off getting to a county final after last night's result,theyll be too good for Pg1 6pts,and then dunloy who they have already beat handy enough in the group stages
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on September 09, 2023, 09:49:57 AM
The man in the middle had a steady game,and tbh always has,I didn't see the incident myself,just looked as they were angry about something,best team won,they won't fear casements or kickhams,they can sit back and watch it unfold today,still think the green army won't be stopped
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 09, 2023, 10:24:12 AM
Should be another exciting game ahead today, I fancy portglenone to do the business, the only thing they would worry me would be complacency on their part. Great opportunity for them to get to a final this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 09, 2023, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 09, 2023, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 09, 2023, 09:42:14 AM
I didn't see it DIE,but then I wasn't officiating,just saying what they were cross about,and what I seen was no 23 with a busted mouth,DMc K had a good game in my eyes,not having a pop at them,just repeating what they said about the officials conveniently bot seeing it
Whether you were officiating or not, you are human like the officials. In the same way that you can only look in one direction at a given time, so can they.

It's a major part of the problem when it comes to the abuse the officials receive. The ridiculous expectation that they must see everything. And if they don't, it's "convenient" or they are blatantly cheating.

Pathetic.
As I said,just repeating what was said by a dunloy person in the dugout area,I know they're human,as I said,D Mc K had a solid game,I don't expect him to see everything, 4 umpires and 2 linesmen are there to help with that,maybe it can be picked up on the stream what they were incensed about
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on September 09, 2023, 10:45:21 AM
Either way G+T and Duine move on,it's championship football ,3 good games over the next 2 days at senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
Stiffler why would you think portglenone would be complacent??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 09, 2023, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
Stiffler why would you think portglenone would be complacent??

Just how could PG1 feel.complacent...?
They were well and truly dismissed almost at leisure by a LD team which proved only squeezed past Enda's next time before being ousted by a team which found the going tough when Creggan visited...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 01:13:13 PM
I doubt they would be but it just seemed like an odd comment.

St Malachys just about win but as expected for the other games. By reading the report does seem ardoyne are getting a lot better (have been for a good while anyway).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2023, 01:39:24 PM
Marty Kane well thought of at Ardoyne, definitely has brought them on noticably. A manager/coach at the start of what could be an exciting journey.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 09, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
LD are a team well in decline. Their peak was 2016-19. Minus two county men as well with poor under age. They were there for the taking. Dunloy deserve credit to come from intermediate and get that result. Buts thats as far as they will go. Truth is there are only four serious senior teams, Cargin, Creggan, Portglenone and Aghagallon. A gap exists between them and the rest. However its grt to have a potentially new developing team make a break through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 05:05:28 PM
Jerome Quinn does love paddy kelly :D

Tight game here but not fantastic.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Old Time Hurler on September 09, 2023, 05:40:22 PM
Creggan were completely awful today. Portglenone done what they had to do. Some strange decision making by Creggan with the late frees aswell.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 09, 2023, 05:45:50 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2023, 09:49:28 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 08, 2023, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 08, 2023, 09:05:57 PM
Hon Dunloy 😃

Been a long time since Cuchullian's won a senior county football title......1936, but they look on the road again.

I'm conflicted. Equidistant between dunloy and portglenone, who to shout for 😀

Cheer for Creggan then

Hoping for a Dunloy Ports final now 😉

The draw still to be made yes?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 05:46:28 PM
Yeah I thought Creggan were terrible too. Dunno how they got so bad. Portglenone will have bigger tests but definitely a well setup outfit. Not sure how that goal went in at all but they'd have won it regardless.

Wins for glenravel(by 10) and sarsfields (by5) in the intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 09, 2023, 05:58:45 PM
Jeez that was poor...........but only a quarter final plenty time for improvement........

Creggan have  endured lotta injuries to key players and that it shows.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 09, 2023, 06:12:18 PM
Well done portglenone today , fully deserving of the victory and will seek to go one further than the last number of years now the path has opened up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 09, 2023, 06:29:18 PM
Good win for Portglenone, did what they had to do to get through in what would always be a game of narrow margins.
Some strange calls by Gaelfast on the line for Creggan, leaving Ruari McCann (their own best forward) marking Portglenones best forward Oisin doherty. People in attendance can correct me but it looked like that online.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2023, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 05:46:28 PM
Yeah I thought Creggan were terrible too. Dunno how they got so bad. Portglenone will have bigger tests but definitely a well setup outfit. Not sure how that goal went in at all but they'd have won it regardless.

Wins for glenravel(by 10) and sarsfields (by5) in the intermediate.

And for St Teresa's
How does semis line up in this ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 08:15:15 PM
Aldergrove getting beat is probably a bit of a surprise. Not sure on semis.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: delgany on September 09, 2023, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 09, 2023, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2023, 05:46:28 PM
Yeah I thought Creggan were terrible too. Dunno how they got so bad. Portglenone will have bigger tests but definitely a well setup outfit. Not sure how that goal went in at all but they'd have won it regardless.

Wins for glenravel(by 10) and sarsfields (by5) in the intermediate.

And for St Teresa's
How does semis line up in this ?

St.Teresas v Ballymena
Glenravel v Sarsfields
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:22:17 AM
Not good reports coming through that the exceptional talent that is Kevin Small, one of Antrims best performers all year, may have done the dreaded cruciate during todays qf.hopefully I'm wrong, one of our main players!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Just home from the club, great that we go into our 5th county senior SF in succession, on top of league winners, yet still endure CBs very obvious condesesention that PG1 don't belong anywhere near the top table -  which gratefully is at long odds with the majority of observers here.

Maybe Cargin can aspire for a run through Ulster,  but wouldn't it be great if we could really all get behind that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 10, 2023, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Just home from the club, great that we go into our 5th county senior SF in succession, on top of league winners, yet still endure CBs very obvious condesesention that PG1 don't belong anywhere near the top table -  which gratefully is at long odds with the majority of observers here.

Maybe Cargin can aspire for a run through Ulster,  but wouldn't it be great if we could really all get behind that.

Don't be letting CB get under your skin  :D

There's a good chance you will face Cargin in the final this year, you will have your opportunity to put them to the sword.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 10, 2023, 08:20:50 AM
Funny I thought CB was up at the Aldergrove game covering that.......or please no, don't tell me there could be 2 of him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:21:50 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 10, 2023, 08:20:50 AM
Funny I thought CB was up at the Aldergrove game covering that.......or please no, don't tell me there could be 2 of him

Didn't realise he was still 'covering' games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on September 10, 2023, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 10, 2023, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Just home from the club, great that we go into our 5th county senior SF in succession, on top of league winners, yet still endure CBs very obvious condesesention that PG1 don't belong anywhere near the top table -  which gratefully is at long odds with the majority of observers here.

Maybe Cargin can aspire for a run through Ulster,  but wouldn't it be great if we could really all get behind that.

Don't be letting CB get under your skin  :D

There's a good chance you will face Cargin in the final this year, you will have your opportunity to put them to the sword.

Is the semi-final draw made yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 10, 2023, 08:32:16 AM
Can't let a Pulitzer Prize standard 'journalist' like that not cover games, he even acts as cheerleader and chief aggressor for the Cargin bench, man of many talents


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:21:50 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 10, 2023, 08:20:50 AM
Funny I thought CB was up at the Aldergrove game covering that.......or please no, don't tell me there could be 2 of him

Didn't realise he was still 'covering' games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 09:31:54 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Just home from the club, great that we go into our 5th county senior SF in succession, on top of league winners, yet still endure CBs very obvious condesesention that PG1 don't belong anywhere near the top table -  which gratefully is at long odds with the majority of observers here.

Maybe Cargin can aspire for a run through Ulster,  but wouldn't it be great if we could really all get behind that.
He seems to live rent free in your head BS, which is bizarre
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2023, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: marty34 on September 10, 2023, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 10, 2023, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Just home from the club, great that we go into our 5th county senior SF in succession, on top of league winners, yet still endure CBs very obvious condesesention that PG1 don't belong anywhere near the top table -  which gratefully is at long odds with the majority of observers here.

Maybe Cargin can aspire for a run through Ulster,  but wouldn't it be great if we could really all get behind that.

Don't be letting CB get under your skin  :D

There's a good chance you will face Cargin in the final this year, you will have your opportunity to put them to the sword.

Is the semi-final draw made yet?

Has been laid out from the start

Portglenone  v Dunloy
Today's winners in the other
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on September 10, 2023, 11:11:16 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2023, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: marty34 on September 10, 2023, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 10, 2023, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 10, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Just home from the club, great that we go into our 5th county senior SF in succession, on top of league winners, yet still endure CBs very obvious condesesention that PG1 don't belong anywhere near the top table -  which gratefully is at long odds with the majority of observers here.

Maybe Cargin can aspire for a run through Ulster,  but wouldn't it be great if we could really all get behind that.

Don't be letting CB get under your skin  :D

There's a good chance you will face Cargin in the final this year, you will have your opportunity to put them to the sword.

Is the semi-final draw made yet?

Has been laid out from the start

Portglenone  v Dunloy
Today's winners in the other

Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 10, 2023, 11:26:46 AM
Creggans decline over the past 2 years has been very dramatic. They are a shadow of their C'ship winning team with most of the same players available. Big questions being asked today I'm sure.
Fair play to PG1, have been very consistent over the past few years but still have a lot to prove when it comes to semi finals, they will never have a better chance than this year!

Todays games should be tight. St.Brigids will have too much transferred in Lavey quality for Rossa and Cargin will be tested by an under performing Aghagallon but will prevail. Cargin PG1 final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 10, 2023, 02:57:12 PM
Collie McDonald very harsh on us! Bottled a big call at the end when it was level. McCann man handled throughout the game and then gets red.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 10, 2023, 03:58:41 PM
Hannahstown as a 'big game' venue.....take a bow the person who had that idea.....original thought of Whitehill???????9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2023, 02:57:12 PM
Collie McDonald very harsh on us! Bottled a big call at the end when it was level. McCann man handled throughout the game and then gets red.
He was man handled through the game but Jim he elbowed the man straight in the face, you can't have any serious argument with that red.
Tough game for us Aghagallon such a tough team to play against, we collectively didn't perform and it went right to the wire, takes a good team to come through these battles consistently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 10, 2023, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2023, 02:57:12 PM
Collie McDonald very harsh on us! Bottled a big call at the end when it was level. McCann man handled throughout the game and then gets red.


Thing is when you hit with an elbow it's usually a red card he can't have any complaints
You couldn't beat cargin when we had an off day so it's back to the drawing board for wee Pete
We march on regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 10, 2023, 03:58:41 PM
Hannahstown as a 'big game' venue.....take a bow the person who had that idea.....original thought of Whitehill???????9

f**k me!! Mr whinge! When you get older do you just turn into victor Meldrew?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 10, 2023, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 10, 2023, 02:57:12 PM
Collie McDonald very harsh on us! Bottled a big call at the end when it was level. McCann man handled throughout the game and then gets red.
He was man handled through the game but Jim he elbowed the man straight in the face, you can't have any serious argument with that red.
Tough game for us Aghagallon such a tough team to play against, we collectively didn't perform and it went right to the wire, takes a good team to come through these battles consistently.

But why was Ruairi not getting frees when he was clearly being held by 2 or 3 men? I don't blame the Cargin players at all for that. If they're getting away with it then why not do it. If collie blows that up for a free once or twice in the first half then that would put that out of the game straight away. There was a few calls at the end that he gave to Cargin and a few fouls that we didn't get. Fine margins.
On Cargin, they were very poor today and you'd imagine they'll not play as bad again because if they do they'll not win their next games. But they won while playing badly and that's what good teams do so fair played to them. The game was flat and both teams were playing poor so the atmosphere was crap throughout.

Hannanstown is a disgrace of a venue for a big game like that. Serious work by their club to get ready for a game like thst but they just don't have the parking. It was very dangerous getting in and out of it nevermind the tail backs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 10, 2023, 04:48:45 PM
Yeah really bizarre having a big game in Hannahstown, it falls down in quite a few areas. No criticism of the club as that's not their concern, but still
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 05:53:32 PM
Good to see St Brigids give some of their home grown players a run out at the end, should be a good semi. Hopefully in Corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 10, 2023, 07:08:12 PM
Congratulations to LD for being the worst championship QF venue I've ever been to. No where to park walked a mile to the pitch. Most of the crowd missed the first 10/15 minutes. Most other counties games be delayed. Paid 7 pound for a ticket with no stewards or Antrim county board member presents at either of the other gates to scan. No real standing area which lead to a complete dead atmosphere which I think worked into the pitch leading the game to be very flat. Pitch looked extremely dead no bounce off it at all. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs their head looked at.
Can't wait for MR2 to come in and stick up for the county board and call us whinges.

Thought collie had a decent game today. Seen a lot of people giving off about McCann being man handled all day then being sent off. He was giving as much as he was getting clear elbow bye bye.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 10, 2023, 07:22:11 PM
surely be dunsilly for both semis, although the likes of Ahoghill could be an alternative for Portglenone Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 07:35:46 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 10, 2023, 07:08:12 PM
Congratulations to LD for being the worst championship QF venue I've ever been to. No where to park walked a mile to the pitch. Most of the crowd missed the first 10/15 minutes. Most other counties games be delayed. Paid 7 pound for a ticket with no stewards or Antrim county board member presents at either of the other gates to scan. No real standing area which lead to a complete dead atmosphere which I think worked into the pitch leading the game to be very flat. Pitch looked extremely dead no bounce off it at all. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs their head looked at.
Can't wait for MR2 to come in and stick up for the county board and call us whinges.

Thought collie had a decent game today. Seen a lot of people giving off about McCann being man handled all day then being sent off. He was giving as much as he was getting clear elbow bye bye.

Bye bye? What fecking age are you?

Paid 7 pound for a ticket and disappointed because nobody scanned you phone? Are you disappointed you paid in and didn't get to meet a scanner? Wow!

No real standing area? And the pitch had no bounce? Holy f**k!  But I'm glad you aren't whinging

Honestly, more brains in a false face

I'm not saying the pitch was best location, I'm not say there was better venues either as ones complaining about Dunsilly before are now happy with it! So people are basically gurning fucks who'll complain about the anything that doesn't suit them..

Now give me your view on the game itself rather than your first post on it being such a bad venue..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 10, 2023, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 07:35:46 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 10, 2023, 07:08:12 PM
Congratulations to LD for being the worst championship QF venue I've ever been to. No where to park walked a mile to the pitch. Most of the crowd missed the first 10/15 minutes. Most other counties games be delayed. Paid 7 pound for a ticket with no stewards or Antrim county board member presents at either of the other gates to scan. No real standing area which lead to a complete dead atmosphere which I think worked into the pitch leading the game to be very flat. Pitch looked extremely dead no bounce off it at all. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs their head looked at.
Can't wait for MR2 to come in and stick up for the county board and call us whinges.

Thought collie had a decent game today. Seen a lot of people giving off about McCann being man handled all day then being sent off. He was giving as much as he was getting clear elbow bye bye.

Bye bye? What fecking age are you?

Paid 7 pound for a ticket and disappointed because nobody scanned you phone? Are you disappointed you paid in and didn't get to meet a scanner? Wow!

No real standing area? And the pitch had no bounce? Holy f**k!  But I'm glad you aren't whinging

Honestly, more brains in a false face

I'm not saying the pitch was best location, I'm not say there was better venues either as ones complaining about Dunsilly before are now happy with it! So people are basically gurning fucks who'll complain about the anything that doesn't suit them..

Now give me your view on the game itself rather than your first post on it being such a bad venue..

Honest opinion worst game of the weekend. But a win is a win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:37:30 PM
I wonder how much St Brigids are paying these transferred players, shameful.

Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:37:30 PM
I wonder how much St Brigids are paying these transferred players, shameful.

Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

Link?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:43:41 PM
4 Downeys on when Matthew came on plus the guy from Killyclogher, 5 men they didn't have last season in the starting team. Wouldn't be accepted in any traditional gaa club. St Brigids are different from the norm but that's how they do things, tough game for us still think we will edge them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?

Well that's the contention from the 'traditional' GAA club 'spokespersons' on here? Is it not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?

Well that's the contention from the 'traditional' GAA club 'spokespersons' on here? Is it not?

Do you know many clubs in Antrim that haven't had outsiders like managers or players from other clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 10, 2023, 08:50:05 PM
Brendan T made a few calls today which both teams may have queried but overall he had a fine game, as usual, and he had no impact on the overall result; as it should be. The best team won by a margin which reflected their superiority. That's it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?
Wouldn't be taking the piss too much MR2, did you see the slo mo of the LD goal your umpires missed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:54:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?

Well that's the contention from the 'traditional' GAA club 'spokespersons' on here? Is it not?

Do you know many clubs in Antrim that haven't had outsiders like managers or players from other clubs?

Not many I would guess. However, the consensus from the illuminate is that this is totally shameless. With a fair wind the traditional clubs who believe they can compete and win at Antrim, Ulster and beyond should edge it though. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?
Wouldn't be taking the piss too much MR2, did you see the slo mo of the LD goal your umpires missed

You didn't see where the net was sitting? The cable ties were not holding the net back, thus leaving the net sitting on the goal line, as it was on the Saturday, but watching the slow mo you watched, would have seen that.



How you shoe horned that into a topic about outsiders on clubs shows your intelligence  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on September 10, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
Was at both games. Cargin were poor and on that display there'll be new champions this year. Aghagallon made a game of it but still couldn't get over the line even when Cargin opened the door for them. A dissapointing year for wee Pete. He's their 3rd manager in 3 years and the least successful.

Lavey beat a very poor Rossa in a game that Brendan was very harsh on ODR I thought. I was expecting more from Rossa tbh.
Lavey played for frees and Brendan bought them every time. The Downeys were to the fore and I just wonder what true St.Brigids Gaels honestly think about this clan coming in and bringing them to a semi final. Is it win at all costs so its all justified or is there some discomfort seeing their homegrown players standing aside?
Regardless, Cargin would need to watch out as any Antrim team with 2 players with 2 Ulster Senior Cships an All Ireland winning captain and a couple of colleges All Stars should be taken seriously. In saying that, shut down the Downeys and Brigids have very little else.

When is it ok to have an 'outsider'? Is one ok or none?

Has to be none - the integrity of the GAA and every club in Antrim and Ireland would be called into question. I can't see any club in Antrim, apart from St Brigids, having any outside players.
Ok I want to get this straight before taking the piss... any club that has won a championship with an 'outsider' is tainted?
Wouldn't be taking the piss too much MR2, did you see the slo mo of the LD goal your umpires missed

You didn't see where the net was sitting? The cable ties were not holding the net back, thus leaving the net sitting on the goal line, as it was on the Saturday, but watching the slow mo you watched, would have seen that.



How you shoe horned that into a topic about outsiders on clubs shows your intelligence  ;D
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 10, 2023, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:43:41 PM
4 Downeys on when Matthew came on plus the guy from Killyclogher, 5 men they didn't have last season in the starting team. Wouldn't be accepted in any traditional gaa club. St Brigids are different from the norm but that's how they do things, tough game for us still think we will edge them.

I'd have agreed before today but after seeing the influence the Downeys have on that team I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 10, 2023, 11:48:05 PM
Quote from: ck on September 10, 2023, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 10, 2023, 08:43:41 PM
4 Downeys on when Matthew came on plus the guy from Killyclogher, 5 men they didn't have last season in the starting team. Wouldn't be accepted in any traditional gaa club. St Brigids are different from the norm but that's how they do things, tough game for us still think we will edge them.

I'd have agreed before today but after seeing the influence the Downeys have on that team I'm not so sure.


Bring on the BT9ers and the Lavey huffers ,manufactured outfit 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 07:46:50 AM
Who is the Killyclogher player for St Bridgets?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 11, 2023, 08:39:10 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 07:46:50 AM
Who is the Killyclogher player for St Bridgets?

Meenagh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 08:55:51 AM
It said on the commentary that Meenagh has been there since 2016?
Would transfers not be common enough? Have Cargin never had any players transfer in? Most Belfast teams would. St Galls always used to get a few. Couple of well known Fermagh men on their AI winning team. Aghnagallon probably never get a better chance to beat the Toome boys. Was McCann harshly red carded? Didn't show it on the stream.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 11, 2023, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 08:55:51 AM
It said on the commentary that Meenagh has been there since 2016?
Would transfers not be common enough? Have Cargin never had any players transfer in? Most Belfast teams would. St Galls always used to get a few. Couple of well known Fermagh men on their AI winning team. Aghnagallon probably never get a better chance to beat the Toome boys. Was McCann harshly red carded? Didn't show it on the stream.

Think that's incorrect on Meenan cos heard yesterday he won a senior championship with Killycloghar a few years ago.

Nothing wrong with a lad transferring in but when a full clan transfers in becuase of an avoidable row with their home club then that's a whole different ball game. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never heard of the like of this anywhere before.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 11, 2023, 09:23:12 AM
Quote from: ck on September 11, 2023, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 08:55:51 AM
It said on the commentary that Meenagh has been there since 2016?
Would transfers not be common enough? Have Cargin never had any players transfer in? Most Belfast teams would. St Galls always used to get a few. Couple of well known Fermagh men on their AI winning team. Aghnagallon probably never get a better chance to beat the Toome boys. Was McCann harshly red carded? Didn't show it on the stream.

Think that's incorrect on Meenan cos heard yesterday he won a senior championship with Killycloghar a few years ago.

Nothing wrong with a lad transferring in but when a full clan transfers in becuase of an avoidable row with their home club then that's a whole different ball game. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never heard of the like of this anywhere before.

Logans to Ballymena the only one i can remember. The Rossa murphys left for a co down side too

On the Cargin transfer question the famous one is Michael Magill
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 11, 2023, 09:29:56 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 08:55:51 AM
It said on the commentary that Meenagh has been there since 2016?
Would transfers not be common enough? Have Cargin never had any players transfer in? Most Belfast teams would. St Galls always used to get a few. Couple of well known Fermagh men on their AI winning team. Aghnagallon probably never get a better chance to beat the Toome boys. Was McCann harshly red carded? Didn't show it on the stream.
I thought Meenagh only joined before this season, don't really know much about him tbh. Course Cargin have had the odd transfer before, every club in Ireland has.
And NO it wasn't a harsh red he threw his elbow back straight into an opposing players face off the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 11, 2023, 09:32:01 AM
Quote from: ck on September 11, 2023, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 08:55:51 AM
It said on the commentary that Meenagh has been there since 2016?
Would transfers not be common enough? Have Cargin never had any players transfer in? Most Belfast teams would. St Galls always used to get a few. Couple of well known Fermagh men on their AI winning team. Aghnagallon probably never get a better chance to beat the Toome boys. Was McCann harshly red carded? Didn't show it on the stream.

Think that's incorrect on Meenan cos heard yesterday he won a senior championship with Killycloghar a few years ago.

Nothing wrong with a lad transferring in but when a full clan transfers in becuase of an avoidable row with their home club then that's a whole different ball game. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never heard of the like of this anywhere before.

I honestly wouldn't have wanted them anywhere near our club. Different if a fella has moved into the area but that Lavey one sounded like a mess. Plus the fact they're taking the place of local lads. I heard Cargin turned them away?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 11, 2023, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 11, 2023, 09:32:01 AM
Quote from: ck on September 11, 2023, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 08:55:51 AM
It said on the commentary that Meenagh has been there since 2016?
Would transfers not be common enough? Have Cargin never had any players transfer in? Most Belfast teams would. St Galls always used to get a few. Couple of well known Fermagh men on their AI winning team. Aghnagallon probably never get a better chance to beat the Toome boys. Was McCann harshly red carded? Didn't show it on the stream.

Think that's incorrect on Meenan cos heard yesterday he won a senior championship with Killycloghar a few years ago.

Nothing wrong with a lad transferring in but when a full clan transfers in becuase of an avoidable row with their home club then that's a whole different ball game. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never heard of the like of this anywhere before.

I honestly wouldn't have wanted them anywhere near our club. Different if a fella has moved into the area but that Lavey one sounded like a mess. Plus the fact they're taking the place of local lads. I heard Cargin turned them away?
There was talk / rumour at one point Jim but honestly think they were always destined for where they are now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
Maybe he won a championship with Killyclogher in 2016. He has been at NB for 4/5 years now though I think. Based on the weekends performances PG1 have probably taken the favourites tag? Are all Cargins starting 15 homegrown?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 11, 2023, 10:05:21 AM
Lets face it, the situation is made worse where they have ended up. St Brigids have had a good run at underage and should be producing at Senior themselves. This situation will do them more harm than good. I cant see them winning a championship this year and these boys wont be St Brigids players in a few years time. Theyll have lost more players than its worth!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
Maybe he won a championship with Killyclogher in 2016. He has been at NB for 4/5 years now though I think. Based on the weekends performances PG1 have probably taken the favourites tag? Are all Cargins starting 15 homegrown?

i think so

might have been a couple who played underrage for Moneyglass but thats it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
Maybe he won a championship with Killyclogher in 2016. He has been at NB for 4/5 years now though I think. Based on the weekends performances PG1 have probably taken the favourites tag? Are all Cargins starting 15 homegrown?

i think so

might have been a couple who played underrage for Moneyglass but thats it.

All of Cargin's team yesterday have green blood no imports at all...
Same applies to the successful reserve team.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 11, 2023, 10:35:02 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 11, 2023, 10:05:21 AM
Lets face it, the situation is made worse where they have ended up. St Brigids have had a good run at underage and should be producing at Senior themselves. This situation will do them more harm than good. I cant see them winning a championship this year and these boys wont be St Brigids players in a few years time. Theyll have lost more players than its worth!

That's precisely the point. A strategy like this might see short term success but it will surely have a long term detrimental impact.
I can only imagine their young lads trying to break into the team and how they see it. Will they even stick around? It's not a great club ethos no matter how you look at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 11:12:16 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
Maybe he won a championship with Killyclogher in 2016. He has been at NB for 4/5 years now though I think. Based on the weekends performances PG1 have probably taken the favourites tag? Are all Cargins starting 15 homegrown?

i think so

might have been a couple who played underrage for Moneyglass but thats it.



All of Cargin's team yesterday have green blood no imports at all...
Same applies to the successful reserve team.....

I had heard the big fullback McShane started out elsewhere. Obviously not though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 11, 2023, 11:26:41 AM
Cargin won and thats all they will however find no issue with lavey in the semis.
An important win for Portglenone will surly have sealed the mcnultys fate?
Dunloy will be fearing nobody.

Smith for Dunloy is a county footballer, any others catching the eye over the weekend ?

was thinking of heading to the gorts game but glad i didn't after seeing the scoreline!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2023, 12:02:23 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 11, 2023, 11:26:41 AM
Cargin won and thats all they will however find no issue with lavey in the semis.
An important win for Portglenone will surly have sealed the mcnultys fate?
Dunloy will be fearing nobody.

Smith for Dunloy is a county footballer, any others catching the eye over the weekend ?

was thinking of heading to the gorts game but glad i didn't after seeing the scoreline!!

Gorts were a shambles. Stinking way to play football and even when they were getting beat, the management were still telling them to defend. The times they did attack, they got a goal and a 45 which they got the point from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2023, 12:36:43 PM
Their grandad was one of the founder members according to Jerome Quinn on commentary.

I would say based on the matches worrying lack of scoring forwards though maybe our club football is too defensive...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 11, 2023, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
Maybe he won a championship with Killyclogher in 2016. He has been at NB for 4/5 years now though I think. Based on the weekends performances PG1 have probably taken the favourites tag? Are all Cargins starting 15 homegrown?

i think so

might have been a couple who played underrage for Moneyglass but thats it.

All of Cargin's team yesterday have green blood no imports at all...
Same applies to the successful reserve team.....

Benen Kelly not ex Moneyglass?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on September 11, 2023, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on September 11, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
Maybe he won a championship with Killyclogher in 2016. He has been at NB for 4/5 years now though I think. Based on the weekends performances PG1 have probably taken the favourites tag? Are all Cargins starting 15 homegrown?

i think so

might have been a couple who played underrage for Moneyglass but thats it.

All of Cargin's team yesterday have green blood no imports at all...
Same applies to the successful reserve team.....

Benen Kelly not ex Moneyglass?

:o :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Much prefer to feed the seige  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on September 11, 2023, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 11, 2023, 11:26:41 AM
Cargin won and thats all they will however find no issue with lavey in the semis.
An important win for Portglenone will surly have sealed the mcnultys fate?
Dunloy will be fearing nobody.

Smith for Dunloy is a county footballer, any others catching the eye over the weekend ?

was thinking of heading to the gorts game but glad i didn't after seeing the scoreline!!

Good win for pg1, Dunloy will have it hard against them for sure. Wing back Caolan Tierney caught the eye for me scored a lovely point and had all round good game. McEntee surely looking at him
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 11, 2023, 01:13:53 PM
All in all, a poor enough weekend of football. Barring Dunloy LD, the other 3 games were flat.

Creggan were dreadful. PG1 not great either by any stretch but deserved their victory. McAleese back will help them massively.

Aghagallon and Cargin were both well below par which resulted in a poor game that promised so much.

Rossa not at the level yet as they struggled against an average St Brigids team. They will pose no threat to Cargin whatsoever.

Dunloy/PG1 very intriguing. Dunloys direct running will cause all sorts of problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 01:17:06 PM
Both Semis in Dunsilly
Sat 23rd @ 7.30 Portglenone v Dunly
Sun 23th @ 2.00 Cargin v St Bridgids
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 11, 2023, 01:26:43 PM
Brendan Toland's performance.........discuss
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 11, 2023, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 01:17:06 PM
Both Semis in Dunsilly
Sat 23rd @ 7.30 Portglenone v Dunly
Sun 23th @ 2.00 Cargin v St Bridgids
Friday 22nd for this one Portglenone v Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on September 11, 2023, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 01:17:06 PM
Both Semis in Dunsilly
Sat 23rd @ 7.30 Portglenone v Dunly
Sun 23th @ 2.00 Cargin v St Bridgids
Friday 22nd for this one Portglenone v Dunloy

website not updated yet then ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 11, 2023, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on September 11, 2023, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 01:17:06 PM
Both Semis in Dunsilly
Sat 23rd @ 7.30 Portglenone v Dunly
Sun 23th @ 2.00 Cargin v St Bridgids
Friday 22nd for this one Portglenone v Dunloy

website not updated yet then ;)
Friday was sent out to clubs by email.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Ultimately it doesn't make a big difference to me personally as I've no dog in the race but I do think the fact they've gone to a club that they have family connections too makes a big difference.

They fell out with Lavey and unfortunately that shit happens. Young lads who no doubt grew up with the game so obviously needed a new home. There will have been easier options too where they could probably go and lift a load of medals but they've gone to a club that they have a connection too and also not one who have that winning tradition at senior level (yet).

I'd say it makes it easier for club people too. They'll know the family and know there's a connection to the club and not just complete outsiders turning up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on September 11, 2023, 02:07:22 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Ultimately it doesn't make a big difference to me personally as I've no dog in the race but I do think the fact they've gone to a club that they have family connections too makes a big difference.

They fell out with Lavey and unfortunately that shit happens. Young lads who no doubt grew up with the game so obviously needed a new home. There will have been easier options too where they could probably go and lift a load of medals but they've gone to a club that they have a connection too and also not one who have that winning tradition at senior level (yet).

I'd say it makes it easier for club people too. They'll know the family and know there's a connection to the club and not just complete outsiders turning up.

So based on this, the apparent link with Cargin first is complete nonsense and they had a burning desire all along to play for St Brigids.  Whilst a family connection might go some way towards explaining the move to that particular club, I doubt it's of any comfort to those players who are no longer in the reckoning for a start as well as those moving up into the senior ranks in the next year or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GTP on September 11, 2023, 02:25:08 PM
You can continue the argument on a connection to the club, M Downey is a cousin of the three brothers playing yesterday, they are not his mother's club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 11, 2023, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 11, 2023, 01:13:53 PM
All in all, a poor enough weekend of football. Barring Dunloy LD, the other 3 games were flat.

Creggan were dreadful. PG1 not great either by any stretch but deserved their victory. McAleese back will help them massively.

Aghagallon and Cargin were both well below par which resulted in a poor game that promised so much.

Rossa not at the level yet as they struggled against an average St Brigids team. They will pose no threat to Cargin whatsoever.

Dunloy/PG1 very intriguing. Dunloys direct running will cause all sorts of problems.

the more i think about it the less of a chance im giving dunloy. LD missing R Murray, D Lynch and P Mervyn
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2023, 02:39:38 PM
I think Dunloy have a chance in that game tbh. Their speed and conditioning / strength will make them difficult. I would expect them to give Portglenone more of a game than Creggan who were very poor but Portglenone should probably still win (Someone said Creggan were poor 2 years but they were ok last year and lost out in a very tight game with Cargin).

You should also remember when listing LD were missing 3 key players Dunloy were missing McGarry and basically Molloy (bar about 2 minutes) so they were not without their absentees.

It would still be a big surprise were it not  Cargin Portglenone final yes but I think Dunloy have a chance. Tbh I am not sure about St Brigids - they have a chance but not sure they're quite at Cargin level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 11, 2023, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 11, 2023, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 11, 2023, 01:13:53 PM
All in all, a poor enough weekend of football. Barring Dunloy LD, the other 3 games were flat.

Creggan were dreadful. PG1 not great either by any stretch but deserved their victory. McAleese back will help them massively.

Aghagallon and Cargin were both well below par which resulted in a poor game that promised so much.

Rossa not at the level yet as they struggled against an average St Brigids team. They will pose no threat to Cargin whatsoever.

Dunloy/PG1 very intriguing. Dunloys direct running will cause all sorts of problems.

the more i think about it the less of a chance im giving dunloy. LD missing R Murray, D Lynch and P Mervyn


Dunloy missing 2 county hurling starters in Molloy (after 2/3 mins) and Ryan McGarry.

I expect PG1 to win but wouldnt be surprised at all if Dunloy get to the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on September 11, 2023, 02:07:22 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Ultimately it doesn't make a big difference to me personally as I've no dog in the race but I do think the fact they've gone to a club that they have family connections too makes a big difference.

They fell out with Lavey and unfortunately that shit happens. Young lads who no doubt grew up with the game so obviously needed a new home. There will have been easier options too where they could probably go and lift a load of medals but they've gone to a club that they have a connection too and also not one who have that winning tradition at senior level (yet).

I'd say it makes it easier for club people too. They'll know the family and know there's a connection to the club and not just complete outsiders turning up.

So based on this, the apparent link with Cargin first is complete nonsense and they had a burning desire all along to play for St Brigids.  Whilst a family connection might go some way towards explaining the move to that particular club, I doubt it's of any comfort to those players who are no longer in the reckoning for a start as well as those moving up into the senior ranks in the next year or two.

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 11, 2023, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Did the club even exist when the mother lived there? Good story though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2023, 04:37:48 PM
Also they're not all brothers are they... however  ;D

I would be with jmcgdoire tbh. I didn't think they were massively impressive barring the frees and afew bursting runs from the no 10 I think it was. They were decent enough but not really standout. They're definitely decent footballers but jury out on whether more than decent. I guess the Cargin game will be a good test.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: God14 on September 11, 2023, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on September 11, 2023, 02:07:22 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 11, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Was there a prior connection between the Downey's and St Brigid's or how did that come about? Obviously they've fallen out with Lavey so had to go play somewhere but presumably there was some reason St Brigid's were the chosen club.

Their mother's club AFAIK

Will the people on here be a wee bit more comforted knowing this information and they not just some random blow ins?

Ultimately it doesn't make a big difference to me personally as I've no dog in the race but I do think the fact they've gone to a club that they have family connections too makes a big difference.

They fell out with Lavey and unfortunately that shit happens. Young lads who no doubt grew up with the game so obviously needed a new home. There will have been easier options too where they could probably go and lift a load of medals but they've gone to a club that they have a connection too and also not one who have that winning tradition at senior level (yet).

I'd say it makes it easier for club people too. They'll know the family and know there's a connection to the club and not just complete outsiders turning up.

So based on this, the apparent link with Cargin first is complete nonsense and they had a burning desire all along to play for St Brigids.  Whilst a family connection might go some way towards explaining the move to that particular club, I doubt it's of any comfort to those players who are no longer in the reckoning for a start as well as those moving up into the senior ranks in the next year or two.

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.

Agree with the jist of that, but young Matthew is the exception
Was he playing yesterday? He's had his injury problems this year, but without a doubt he's one of the most impressive young players in Ulster.
His inclusion in this whole affair makes it such a big deal (for me) and his parents have no immediate links to Brigid's. His mother was from Ardboe!
Not too many clubs have a playmaker of his ilk at their disposal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2023, 05:01:47 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/football/senior-football-championship/ (https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/football/senior-football-championship/)

There's the report g14. Came on as a sub.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on September 11, 2023, 05:18:04 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.

have you been living under a rock for 5 or 6 years.
this is easily one of the worst takes i've seen on this board for a long time.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 05:18:04 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.

have you been living under a rock for 5 or 6 years.
this is easily one of the worst takes i've seen on this board for a long time.

I know what ive seen. Theres talent there im sure but I think this whole transfer nonsense has gotten them overhyped. God14 may well be right about matthew and i already praised enda. I dont like coming on here to talk down these young lads who have done no wrong but theres a reason lavey havent won anything since the 90s and it didnt look like these lads were going to get them over the line anytime soon anyway. Theyll have a better chance winning a championship in antrim in a few years anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 05:18:04 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.

have you been living under a rock for 5 or 6 years.
this is easily one of the worst takes i've seen on this board for a long time.

I know what ive seen. Theres talent there im sure but I think this whole transfer nonsense has gotten them overhyped. God14 may well be right about matthew and i already praised enda. I dont like coming on here to talk down these young lads who have done no wrong but theres a reason lavey havent won anything since the 90s and it didnt look like these lads were going to get them over the line anytime soon anyway. Theyll have a better chance winning a championship in antrim in a few years anyway

Not sure about that, a lot of people were tipping lavey to be the next team to challenge Glen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 11, 2023, 07:29:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 05:18:04 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.

have you been living under a rock for 5 or 6 years.
this is easily one of the worst takes i've seen on this board for a long time.

I know what ive seen. Theres talent there im sure but I think this whole transfer nonsense has gotten them overhyped. God14 may well be right about matthew and i already praised enda. I dont like coming on here to talk down these young lads who have done no wrong but theres a reason lavey havent won anything since the 90s and it didnt look like these lads were going to get them over the line anytime soon anyway. Theyll have a better chance winning a championship in antrim in a few years anyway

Not sure about that, a lot of people were tipping lavey to be the next team to challenge Glen.

I'd agree with Hoof
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 11, 2023, 07:29:39 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 11, 2023, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 05:18:04 PM
Quote from: jmcgdoire on September 11, 2023, 03:40:09 PM

Sick of seeing ones complain about the lads who lost there starting spot. Ive seen these Downeys before and I seen them again yesterday and theres nothing spectacular there. Enda is a good asset as a left footed free taker but there rest are just fine. It seems to be that brigids (fairly minor) improvement is more down to there success at underage in recent years.
Really dont understand why these lads deserve this much airtime. If your upset some lavey lads took your starting spot then thats on you for not locking it down.

have you been living under a rock for 5 or 6 years.
this is easily one of the worst takes i've seen on this board for a long time.

I know what ive seen. Theres talent there im sure but I think this whole transfer nonsense has gotten them overhyped. God14 may well be right about matthew and i already praised enda. I dont like coming on here to talk down these young lads who have done no wrong but theres a reason lavey havent won anything since the 90s and it didnt look like these lads were going to get them over the line anytime soon anyway. Theyll have a better chance winning a championship in antrim in a few years anyway

Not sure about that, a lot of people were tipping lavey to be the next team to challenge Glen.

I'd agree with Hoof

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 11, 2023, 09:21:13 PM
CB Lavey a young outfit overall and there was only one way they were goin next few years. Plenty talent coming through. Them and m'felt next in line. Don't get me wrong I'm happy enough to see them lose 4 probable v influential figures for next while. But anyways I've spoke enough about Derry on here, the mob will be after me again 😆
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:44:37 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 11, 2023, 09:21:13 PM
CB Lavey a young outfit overall and there was only one way they were goin next few years. Plenty talent coming through. Them and m'felt next in line. Don't get me wrong I'm happy enough to see them lose 4 probable v influential figures for next while. But anyways I've spoke enough about Derry on here, the mob will be after me again 😆

Lotta teams in Derry, some served well by St Pats, Mary's and Pius X.....as are Cargin

But peer through the bushes there are more than a few in the medioctrity zone.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 12, 2023, 01:33:07 AM
In relation to the Downeys, i get it from both sides. As MR2 alluded to, the lads have to play somewhere. But im more in the camp of play with your own. Particularly because st brigids have had the most underage success  in recent years. Its a poisoned chalice that their committee had, damned if they do, damned if they dont. Time will tell what the best decision was. I just feel that they should have stuck with their own no matter what.

They seem to have a win at all costs mentality, may work for them, but i cant see it at all. Play with your own, and if you do manage to win it will mean 100x more.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2023, 07:40:07 AM
None of this changes the fact cargin are strong favourites and it would be a big surprise if they are beat by st Brigids!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.

A good start for Lavey would be being in Divison 1...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 12, 2023, 09:02:24 AM
Who are the favourites for the minor championship ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 09:14:14 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 12, 2023, 09:02:24 AM
Who are the favourites for the minor championship ?

By looking at the league it looks to be a 2 horse race between St Pauls and St Bridgets.

With one of them horses out...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 09:16:32 AM
I See on the county website there's fixtures down for u19 Championship tomorrow night, will these go ahead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 12, 2023, 10:12:06 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 09:16:32 AM
I See on the county website there's fixtures down for u19 Championship tomorrow night, will these go ahead?

Did the u-19 league proceed...
Cargin played one game therein and never experienced another game.....
So hugely doubtful.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on September 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.

A good start for Lavey would be being in Divison 1...

leagues are for playing in...

look how the league winners got on against their neighbours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on September 12, 2023, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 12, 2023, 10:12:06 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 09:16:32 AM
I See on the county website there's fixtures down for u19 Championship tomorrow night, will these go ahead?

Did the u-19 league proceed...
Cargin played one game therein and never experienced another game.....
So hugely doubtful.....
Too little too late for the lads aged 18 who missed a year at minor this year.  Most of them left twiddling their thumbs and slipping away from football.  A horrendous decision by the county to switch to U17.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.

A good start for Lavey would be being in Divison 1...

leagues are for playing in...

look how the league winners got on against their neighbours.

But leagues also determine championship unless anything drastic happens Lavey are an intermediate team next year.
Be doing well to challenge Glen from there  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on September 12, 2023, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.

A good start for Lavey would be being in Divison 1...

leagues are for playing in...

look how the league winners got on against their neighbours.

But leagues also determine championship unless anything drastic happens Lavey are an intermediate team next year.
Be doing well to challenge Glen from there  :-X

No. Im pretty sure that league and championship are now separate in derry. Lavey will still be playing senior championship next year unless they finish bottom of there group and lose championship relegation play off.
And I agree: leagues are for playing in. Dublin did fine this year playing in the second division. anyway. Downey boys or not. Lavey werent winning a championship this year nor next
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on September 12, 2023, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.

A good start for Lavey would be being in Divison 1...

leagues are for playing in...

look how the league winners got on against their neighbours.

But leagues also determine championship unless anything drastic happens Lavey are an intermediate team next year.
Be doing well to challenge Glen from there  :-X

anything drastic? like the rules already in place?

lavey will be a senior championship team next year.

I'm not saying they are going to challenge Glen. IMO no-one will for a few years but lavey are in a much better place than those clubs you mentioned.
back to back reserve wins + very good u15 / u17 teams.

Newbridge have a number of quality players but they won't improve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2023, 11:48:46 AM
Think I opened the Derry thread here  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2023, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 12, 2023, 08:48:29 AM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2023, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 11, 2023, 09:04:22 PM

Of course the Downeys are talented lads but as to carrying the Musgrave men to a county title anytime soon.
As for Lavey replacing Glen top of the pops in Derry anytime soon  if that to happen are Bellaghy, Newbridge, etc coming to Antrim.

The Biddies never came close to a senior in our county and are these young lads gonna carry them over the line

Football to be played yet and I am sure Cargin are not about to abdicate......

Not ahead of Lavey anytime soon.

A good start for Lavey would be being in Divison 1...

leagues are for playing in...

look how the league winners got on against their neighbours.

But leagues also determine championship unless anything drastic happens Lavey are an intermediate team next year.
Be doing well to challenge Glen from there  :-X

anything drastic? like the rules already in place?

lavey will be a senior championship team next year.

I'm not saying they are going to challenge Glen. IMO no-one will for a few years but lavey are in a much better place than those clubs you mentioned.
back to back reserve wins + very good u15 / u17 teams.

Newbridge have a number of quality players but they won't improve.

I mentioned no one just know it wont be Lavey if anyone soon its going to be Mfelt.

Sorry i forgot about them rules acctually i must eat my words.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on September 12, 2023, 12:17:00 PM
Agree, Rossa very well placed. I'd like to see them draw slaughtneil this season in a semi final.

Sorry for hijacking the antrim thread lads  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 12, 2023, 12:35:43 PM
Id just like to reiterate that my point was that with the Downey's Lavey were best placed to challenge Glen along with M'felt over the next few years, not that they'd actually do it. Same time Glen won't last for ever as we all know. I too would like to apologize for the derailment and will be making no further comment on the matter 😀
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 12, 2023, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 12, 2023, 12:35:43 PM
Id just like to reiterate that my point was that with the Downey's Lavey were best placed to challenge Glen along with M'felt over the next few years, not that they'd actually do it. Same time Glen won't last for ever as we all know. I too would like to apologize for the derailment and will be making no further comment on the matter 😀

Yes, this was the original point. IF lavey had stayed together they were going to challenge. And like most of Derry, im not too dissapointed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 12, 2023, 01:13:03 PM
15-20 years of hard work by Lavey coaches to get there and all blown in days.
Of course the u19 is doomed to failure, how it even got changed fromU20 to 19 is a unclear. Apparently it happened at the Convention but people who were there didn't seem aware of it and no one has explained the reason for it.
Can only be an U19 for 1 single year presumably with the change to U18 in 2024. So whoever wins it will go down in history (if any of the games take place)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2023, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 12, 2023, 01:13:03 PM
15-20 years of hard work by Lavey coaches to get there and all blown in days.
Of course the u19 is doomed to failure, how it even got changed fromU20 to 19 mystery. Apparently it happened at the Convention but people who were there didn't seem aware of it and no one has explained the reason for it.
Can only be an U19 for 1 single year presumably with the change to U18 in 2024. So whoever wins it will go down in history (if any of the games take place)

Its disappointing but clubs lose players for lots of reasons that are out of their control.

We have lost in recent years lads to soccer, plenty potential but hey ho, the club moves on

Didn't realise that it was under19 either, and next year the team that wins Minor will be same team again at under18!

But those that went to the convention it must have been voted for? Are clubs just sending ones that aren't really listening or did they not get the committee to give them more details on it?

What would have been better? stay at under 20 or move 21 early?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 12, 2023, 01:32:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2023, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 12, 2023, 01:13:03 PM
15-20 years of hard work by Lavey coaches to get there and all blown in days.
Of course the u19 is doomed to failure, how it even got changed fromU20 to 19 mystery. Apparently it happened at the Convention but people who were there didn't seem aware of it and no one has explained the reason for it.
Can only be an U19 for 1 single year presumably with the change to U18 in 2024. So whoever wins it will go down in history (if any of the games take place)

Its disappointing but clubs lose players for lots of reasons that are out of their control.

We have lost in recent years lads to soccer, plenty potential but hey ho, the club moves on

Didn't realise that it was under19 either, and next year the team that wins Minor will be same team again at under18!

But those that went to the convention it must have been voted for? Are clubs just sending ones that aren't really listening or did they not get the committee to give them more details on it?

What would have been better? stay at under 20 or move 21 early?
The best thing would have been never to touch the age grades, too late for that. Next best thing would been change back to way it was, which I think we are doing in 2024. We couldn't even do that right we changed the 20/21 again for one random season in between the two above events happening.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 12, 2023, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2023, 11:48:46 AM
Think I opened the Derry thread here  ::)

Not to worry, at least one individual on this thread is on lots of gaaboard outlets......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on September 12, 2023, 04:28:40 PM
who is the four remaining in IFC and JFC and is there dates for these?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 12, 2023, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 12, 2023, 04:28:40 PM
who is the four remaining in IFC and JFC and is there dates for these?
JFC
(semi finals) 24th Sept

Cardinal O'Donnells v Eire Og

St Mary's Rasharkin v St Malachys

IFC
(semi finals) 23rd Sept

Patrick Sarsfields v Con Magees Glenravel

All Saints Ballymena v St Teresa's

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 12, 2023, 05:13:58 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 12, 2023, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 12, 2023, 04:28:40 PM
who is the four remaining in IFC and JFC and is there dates for these?
JFC
(semi finals) 24th Sept

Cardinal O'Donnells v Eire Og

St Mary's Rasharkin v St Malachys

IFC
(semi finals) 23rd Sept

Patrick Sarsfields v Con Magees Glenravel

All Saints Ballymena v St Teresa's

IFC
(semi finals) 23rd Sept

Patrick Sarsfields v Con Magees Glenravel @ Cargin 4PM

All Saints Ballymena v St Teresa's @ St Endas 4PM

Junior teams have home advantage
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on September 13, 2023, 08:55:18 AM
Why are they on the same time?
for iFC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2023, 09:35:42 AM
Can we leave the Lavey nonsense to the wee wans over the river.

South West Treble again looming in the football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
On that point do we have dates for the JFC/IFC and SFC finals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 13, 2023, 10:27:10 AM
BS I thought you said JMcK had new men in place,just curious,Cackal o Kane said C Mc Geary was assisting him along the line,intriguing game between Dunloy and Yourselves BS,big opportunity for both off yous to get to a county final,what price for a Dunloy Double,St Bs won't fear Cargin,although that could be a blessing for cargin,can't see them being as poor next day out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 13, 2023, 10:34:54 AM
Bannside is GOD still involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
On that point do we have dates for the JFC/IFC and SFC finals?

been posted twice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 11:51:29 AM
Apologies HH, however I can only see the semi final dates not the final


Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
On that point do we have dates for the JFC/IFC and SFC finals?

been posted twice
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 13, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 11:51:29 AM
Apologies HH, however I can only see the semi final dates not the final


Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
On that point do we have dates for the JFC/IFC and SFC finals?

been posted twice

I'm not certain but I think it's the weekend 7th/8th October going by the way it's been one week football, one week hurling right through.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 13, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 11:51:29 AM
Apologies HH, however I can only see the semi final dates not the final


Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
On that point do we have dates for the JFC/IFC and SFC finals?

been posted twice

I'm not certain but I think it's the weekend 7th/8th October going by the way it's been one week football, one week hurling right through.

my bad, didnt read the question !
finals are all down for sunday 8th October, but i think the IFC and JFC will be played on the saturday
from memory that was the way it was last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 13, 2023, 01:13:39 PM
Our county socials are a joke. Next to no promotion of anything apart from senior competitions and today we have a repost with Paddy McBride in a coffee shop. WTF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 13, 2023, 01:13:39 PM
Our county socials are a joke. Next to no promotion of anything apart from senior competitions and today we have a repost with Paddy McBride in a coffee shop. WTF.

We've live club games, 3 last weekend and 3 the week before. Different times to suit people to either go to or watch from the house. SG with match reports for all games.. I've never known there to be that much coverage, these last 10 years..

Back in the day you were lucky to get a fixture list in the Irish News on a Monday night!

Are we spoilt or just hungry for all things GAA

I'd say there will be a spot available for someone to carry out this unpaid thankless task of keeping everyone happy..

Make sure you put your name forward now to be the rush
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 13, 2023, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 13, 2023, 01:13:39 PM
Our county socials are a joke. Next to no promotion of anything apart from senior competitions and today we have a repost with Paddy McBride in a coffee shop. WTF.

do you expect them to start promoting the junior championship out of no where on a Wednesday lunch time ffs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 13, 2023, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 13, 2023, 01:13:39 PM
Our county socials are a joke. Next to no promotion of anything apart from senior competitions and today we have a repost with Paddy McBride in a coffee shop. WTF.

We've live club games, 3 last weekend and 3 the week before. Different times to suit people to either go to or watch from the house. SG with match reports for all games.. I've never known there to be that much coverage, these last 10 years..

Back in the day you were lucky to get a fixture list in the Irish News on a Monday night!

Are we spoilt or just hungry for all things GAA

I'd say there will be a spot available for someone to carry out this unpaid thankless task of keeping everyone happy..

Make sure you put your name forward now to be the rush

We were spoilt with Sean Kelly tbf. But the coverage outside of senior in both codes has been poor and underage coverage has been poor. League coverage was beyond a joke.
You won't like this MR2 but honestly think SV boys be brilliant for it. Don't huff and puff and come back with stuff they have said or done in past put that aside they would make for great PROs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 13, 2023, 01:52:02 PM
Live club games-yes fantastic, its a paid service though
Saffron gael is project started by two great antrim GAA men separate from the county
Im not slating overall coverage, its been mentioned here numerous times about lack of coverage from our PRO on underage county games and lower level games, open our county website, SFC and SHC 1/4 finals, PG1 Div 1 league, Loughgiel Div 1 league
We've a lot of businesses that pump good money into our county, was coverage not a reason one quite publicly pulled out last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 02:17:48 PM
Good man HH and thank you.

It's clear you are not one of the refs in the county as you can admit an error  ;)

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 13, 2023, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 11:51:29 AM
Apologies HH, however I can only see the semi final dates not the final


Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2023, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 13, 2023, 09:59:09 AM
On that point do we have dates for the JFC/IFC and SFC finals?

been posted twice

I'm not certain but I think it's the weekend 7th/8th October going by the way it's been one week football, one week hurling right through.

my bad, didnt read the question !
finals are all down for sunday 8th October, but i think the IFC and JFC will be played on the saturday
from memory that was the way it was last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 13, 2023, 01:52:02 PM
Live club games-yes fantastic, its a paid service though
Saffron gael is project started by two great antrim GAA men separate from the county
Im not slating overall coverage, its been mentioned here numerous times about lack of coverage from our PRO on underage county games and lower level games, open our county website, SFC and SHC 1/4 finals, PG1 Div 1 league, Loughgiel Div 1 league
We've a lot of businesses that pump good money into our county, was coverage not a reason one quite publicly pulled out last year?

It's a paid service as in you'd still have to pay if going to the games... in fact less fuel and better viewing (at times) is a great alternative and cheaper

Games are all on a similar times and if you have only one person there to promote it then I'm sorry but senior is bread and butter for most supporters interest, and before we go all crazy, Ive been involved at all levels of management and know its great when you get coverage but its not a biggy.

What SV have done is great in terms of coverage of the games, at no point have I ever said any different, but if we are interested in public relations of the Antrim GAA is not then to be super critical of 99.99% of the people doing unpaid roles. Constructive is great but when you are lambasting people its just childish and immature.

As for sponsorship and so on yes everyone should get a fair crack of the whip
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 13, 2023, 04:38:03 PM
I think it would honestly take a team to PRO for Antrim GAA properly. Straight away you could divide hurling and football, club and county and many other ways.

I have a bit of experience doing it for a couple of months in a less busy role and it's hard work. It genuinely could be a full time job for one person if you were doing the thing right but it's tough to please everyone.

SG and SV are both great coverage but very different. There's more professionalism to SG whereas SV are more about the craic and that absolutely has it's market but probably wouldn't be ideal on an official platform.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 05:56:42 PM
I suppose if your idea of 'craic' is trying to ridicule people on a public forum then yes, SV have a place.

But certainly for updating the local GAA public on games/scores/reviews then yes absolutely, the more the merrier
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2023, 10:06:21 PM
I hear there is a go fund me page to get the referee in LAmhs dunloy match a new stopwatch. Well done dunloy who knows maybe the double ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2023, 10:06:21 PM
I hear there is a go fund me page to get the referee in LAmhs dunloy match a new stopwatch. Well done dunloy who knows maybe the double ?

They should have the stopwatch linked to the scoreboard that would at the very least stop the gurnning...

They seemed happy with the stop watch at the county final  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 14, 2023, 03:09:36 PM
Assuming u19 games last night with no score up weren't played? I know ours wasn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2023, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 14, 2023, 03:09:36 PM
Assuming u19 games last night with no score up weren't played? I know ours wasn't

Server issues and some scores are not uploading.. also our game was abandon due to water on pitch after 15 minutes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 14, 2023, 04:17:46 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 14, 2023, 03:09:36 PM
Assuming u19 games last night with no score up weren't played? I know ours wasn't

All Saints conceded to Cargin who will meet Enda's next round.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2023, 04:58:12 PM
St Paul's v Naomh Brid was played in terrible conditions, and finished in near darkness. Credit to both teams and the ref for getting it done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2023, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2023, 10:06:21 PM
I hear there is a go fund me page to get the referee in LAmhs dunloy match a new stopwatch. Well done dunloy who knows maybe the double ?

They should have the stopwatch linked to the scoreboard that would at the very least stop the gurnning...

They seemed happy with the stop watch at the county final  ;)
great ideas about stopwatch and scoreboard.  The rest is a riddle lad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2023, 05:53:44 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2023, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2023, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 13, 2023, 10:06:21 PM
I hear there is a go fund me page to get the referee in LAmhs dunloy match a new stopwatch. Well done dunloy who knows maybe the double ?

They should have the stopwatch linked to the scoreboard that would at the very least stop the gurnning...

They seemed happy with the stop watch at the county final  ;)
great ideas about stopwatch and scoreboard.  The rest is a riddle lad

There's only one watch in a game, any stoppages, injuries, fights, substitutions are all added, any stoppages in stoppage time is added. Would people prefer no added stoppages?

Players are always informed and shown the time if asked.

But if there is a go fund me I'd like the new up to date Fenix Garmin watch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2023, 06:35:12 PM
I thought you used two watches  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2023, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2023, 06:35:12 PM
I thought you used two watches  ;D

Cheap Casio on the left, Fenix 6 on the right! But happy for two Garmins
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 14, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
Anyone know who is playing in the u15 Breslin Cup final?

We are in the Shield final but I can't for the life of me find who who is in the other final and where/when it is.

Didn't think it would be so hard to find out!!

Had hoped it would be a double header but I think it's on a different night for some reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 14, 2023, 08:45:39 PM


But if there is a go fund me I'd like the new up to date Fenix Garmin watch.
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Top of the range! Fair play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 14, 2023, 11:12:05 PM
Just home from Dublin(work)so disappointed to know after a good performance last week against casements,we fall on our sword tonight v St Paul's,We play casements Sunday week I think Barnish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2023, 08:10:51 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on September 14, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
Anyone know who is playing in the u15 Breslin Cup final?

We are in the Shield final but I can't for the life of me find who who is in the other final and where/when it is.

Didn't think it would be so hard to find out!!

Had hoped it would be a double header but I think it's on a different night for some reason.

Definitely Portglenone v St endas but not 100% sure on the date

I think both teams only had one game go play to get there
Portglenone Definitely had, against cargin
St endas maybe had a quarter to play before beating moneyglass in semi

Edit Sunday 24th at 1.00pm at Randalstown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2023, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 14, 2023, 11:12:05 PM
Just home from Dublin(work)so disappointed to know after a good performance last week against casements,we fall on our sword tonight v St Paul's,We play casements Sunday week I think Barnish

On any given day, st galls apart, anyone can beat anyone in that age group
Going to be very competitive going forward, throw in a few other teams who are improving like cargin, Creggan, and it's going to be tougher
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 15, 2023, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2023, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 14, 2023, 11:12:05 PM
Just home from Dublin(work)so disappointed to know after a good performance last week against casements,we fall on our sword tonight v St Paul's,We play casements Sunday week I think Barnish

On any given day, st galls apart, anyone can beat anyone in that age group
Going to be very competitive going forward, throw in a few other teams who are improving like cargin, Creggan, and it's going to be tougher

Having watched all of the teams in that league this year, Dunloy are the ones to watch for, if they can balance football with hurling, which is the age old issue down there.

EDIT: Just checked last night's results in the B Championship and I see Dunloy are through to the Final after beating the Jonnies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 15, 2023, 10:45:19 AM
How big an area is Dunloy? They're some club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2023, 10:52:51 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on September 15, 2023, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2023, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 14, 2023, 11:12:05 PM
Just home from Dublin(work)so disappointed to know after a good performance last week against casements,we fall on our sword tonight v St Paul's,We play casements Sunday week I think Barnish

On any given day, st galls apart, anyone can beat anyone in that age group
Going to be very competitive going forward, throw in a few other teams who are improving like cargin, Creggan, and it's going to be tougher

Having watched all of the teams in that league this year, Dunloy are the ones to watch for, if they can balance football with hurling, which is the age old issue down there.

EDIT: Just checked last night's results in the B Championship and I see Dunloy are through to the Final after beating the Jonnies.

Was going to put Dunloy but never saw them this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2023, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 15, 2023, 10:45:19 AM
How big an area is Dunloy? They're some club!

Not that big in fairness but they harness what they have and put it to good use..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 15, 2023, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 15, 2023, 10:45:19 AM
How big an area is Dunloy? They're some club!

Their catchment area runs further than the parish boundary
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2023, 12:56:07 PM
Was informed just over 2000? In Dunloy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 15, 2023, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 15, 2023, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on September 15, 2023, 10:45:19 AM
How big an area is Dunloy? They're some club!

Their catchment area runs further than the parish boundary

I was told it's a fair bit bigger than say 20 years ago I think. Has there been new housing developments ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 15, 2023, 01:03:39 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on July 11, 2023, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2023, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on July 11, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
Referees getting a lot of stink I see on SV instagram? are they that bad within the county?

Tbh if the contributions to this forum are anything to go by then they're not worth paying any attention to.

Rossa always dangerous come championship. McGettigan, Walsh, Byrne and McEnhill at county plus the likes of Beatty. They'll compete better than they do in the league.

Seriously , when was the last time they beat a fancied team ie Cargin or St Gallsin the past 20 yrs,  or even Creggan in the past 5/6 yrs  to get such kudos

Spot on the money, come proper knockout football, as usual
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 15, 2023, 04:20:22 PM
Rossa usually don't even qualify out of their group. They did this year and got beat by Derry blow ins  ;D
In all seriousness, Rossa given the players they have have underperformed for years, particularly the past few years. Under achievers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 15, 2023, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: ck on September 15, 2023, 04:20:22 PM
Rossa usually don't even qualify out of their group. They did this year and got beat by Derry blow ins  ;D
In all seriousness, Rossa given the players they have have underperformed for years, particularly the past few years. Under achievers.

I think they lost a few players this year to other clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 16, 2023, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 15, 2023, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: ck on September 15, 2023, 04:20:22 PM
Rossa usually don't even qualify out of their group. They did this year and got beat by Derry blow ins  ;D
In all seriousness, Rossa given the players they have have underperformed for years, particularly the past few years. Under achievers.

I think they lost a few players this year to other clubs.

Rossa did beat Cargin in the 'group stages' last year, but none of the other semi finalists can boast of a single championship win over Erin's Own in senior championship fare......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 16, 2023, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2023, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 15, 2023, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: ck on September 15, 2023, 04:20:22 PM
Rossa usually don't even qualify out of their group. They did this year and got beat by Derry blow ins  ;D
In all seriousness, Rossa given the players they have have underperformed for years, particularly the past few years. Under achievers.

I think they lost a few players this year to other clubs.

Rossa did beat Cargin in the 'group stages' last year, but none of the other semi finalists can boast of a single championship win over Erin's Own in senior championship fare......

They didnt qualify from the group so its a nonsense point. Beating Cargin in a dead rubber doesnt count.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 17, 2023, 10:32:54 PM
So another Downey has exited to St Brigid's ....played in the popular u-19 Championship last week.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 18, 2023, 12:53:52 PM
Big week ahead for Antrim Championship, who are we saying to progress?

Cargin by 3
Dunloy by 1 after ET
Ballymena by 4
Glenravel by 2
O'D's by 10
Rasharkin by 12
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 18, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 18, 2023, 12:53:52 PM
Big week ahead for Antrim Championship, who are we saying to progress?

Cargin by 3
Dunloy by 1 after ET
Ballymena by 4
Glenravel by 2
O'D's by 10
Rasharkin by 12

Agree with all these results.

The results in the JFC will more than likely be one sided but why is our JFC so weak??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 18, 2023, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 18, 2023, 12:53:52 PM
Big week ahead for Antrim Championship, who are we saying to progress?

Cargin by 3
Dunloy by 1 after ET
Ballymena by 4
Glenravel by 2
O'D's by 10
Rasharkin by 12






Cargin by 7

Portglenone by 10

Ballymena by 4

Glenravel by 8+
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 18, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 18, 2023, 12:53:52 PM
Big week ahead for Antrim Championship, who are we saying to progress?

Cargin by 3
Dunloy by 1 after ET
Ballymena by 4
Glenravel by 2
O'D's by 10
Rasharkin by 12
.
Agree with all these results.

The results in the JFC will more than likely be one sided but why is our JFC so weak??

There are teams in Intermediate probably at junior level. Pearses(won it last year will probably drop next) lisburn (won it 3 years ago could possibly drop even playing div 2 football) antrim won it 2 years ago and shouldve dropped again this year. Out of their depth
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 18, 2023, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 17, 2023, 10:32:54 PM
So another Downey has exited to St Brigid's ....played in the popular u-19 Championship last week.....

I think you need new sources.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 18, 2023, 04:05:40 PM
Across both codes in the senior semi finals, Belfast are represented by 1 team.

Is Belfast GAA dying?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 18, 2023, 04:25:07 PM
I certainly don't think Belfast GAA is dying but I do think it is spread too thin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2023, 05:27:33 PM
Great weekend of sport awaits! Bring her on...

Clubs should have nomination forms anytime soon for any aspiring administrators who think they can step up and add value/make a difference.

Soon CMC and Donal Murphy will be stepping down after a 4 year stint. While its easy to snipe from the sidelines the list of achievements/developments during their tenure is very very impressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 18, 2023, 06:52:29 PM
Having lost out in the finals of back to back minor championships to Cargin in the past few years  does anybody know how many St Brigid's lads from that era have stepped up to their senior team.
I would guess that Cargin have in the region of 70/80% included in the senior panel now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2023, 07:32:48 PM
Bill and Ted should be sharpening their pencils with their application
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 18, 2023, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 18, 2023, 05:27:33 PM
Great weekend of sport awaits! Bring her on...

Clubs should have nomination forms anytime soon for any aspiring administrators who think they can step up and add value/make a difference.

Soon CMC and Donal Murphy will be stepping down after a 4 year stint. While its easy to snipe from the sidelines the list of achievements/developments during their tenure is very very impressive.



Looking forward to this weekend BS
Can the ports finally get over their semi final jinx or can Dunloy upset the odds and spring a surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 19, 2023, 08:18:32 AM
Completely obsessed with St Brigids Country Bumpkin

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 18, 2023, 06:52:29 PMHaving lost out in the finals of back to back minor championships to Cargin in the past few years  does anybody know how many St Brigid's lads from that era have stepped up to their senior team.
I would guess that Cargin have in the region of 70/80% included in the senior panel now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 19, 2023, 10:07:46 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 18, 2023, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 18, 2023, 04:05:40 PMAcross both codes in the senior semi finals, Belfast are represented by 1 team.

Is Belfast GAA dying?
Possibly but a quick glance at juvenile football would suggest that there is at least a dying kick.

I would agree.

St Brigids, St Pauls and Gorts very strong at u15/u17 level.

Problem will be can they translate that to Senior by keeping those groups together and bringing them through.

I know some of the stronger players in those teams are already having their heads turned by soccer and rugby so it remains to be seen if they keep at the football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 19, 2023, 02:01:14 PM
Joe Brolly on talkback today, he claims he wont be at any more Derry senior games as they are paying Mickey Harte. Could of sworn I seen him in the crowd at the St Brigids / Rossa game. What a hypocrite he is, with two Tyrone men managing St Brigids (assuming not for charity) this one was clearly for soundbites.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2023, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 19, 2023, 02:01:14 PMJoe Brolly on talkback today, he claims he wont be at any more Derry senior games as they are paying Mickey Harte. Could of sworn I seen him in the crowd at the St Brigids / Rossa game. What a hypocrite he is, with two Tyrone men managing St Brigids (assuming not for charity) this was clearly for soundbites. What nasty piece of work Brolly is.

He's getting the reaction (good or bad) it seems ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 19, 2023, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2023, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 19, 2023, 02:01:14 PMJoe Brolly on talkback today, he claims he wont be at any more Derry senior games as they are paying Mickey Harte. Could of sworn I seen him in the crowd at the St Brigids / Rossa game. What a hypocrite he is, with two Tyrone men managing St Brigids (assuming not for charity) this was clearly for soundbites. What nasty piece of work Brolly is.

He's getting the reaction (good or bad) it seems ;D

If he has just gone with the footballing aspect he would have been correct.

Can't see this as anything other than a massive backward step for Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on September 19, 2023, 04:08:24 PM

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If he has just gone with the footballing aspect he would have been correct.

Can't see this as anything other than a massive backward step for Derry.
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Absolutely - imagine a Harte managed Derry side playing v Kerry this past summer. It would have been an unwatchable dirge, rather than one of the most exciting games of the year. Very poor decision I think for Derry - will the players be happy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 19, 2023, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 19, 2023, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2023, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 19, 2023, 02:01:14 PMJoe Brolly on talkback today, he claims he wont be at any more Derry senior games as they are paying Mickey Harte. Could of sworn I seen him in the crowd at the St Brigids / Rossa game. What a hypocrite he is, with two Tyrone men managing St Brigids (assuming not for charity) this was clearly for soundbites. What nasty piece of work Brolly is.

He's getting the reaction (good or bad) it seems ;D

If he has just gone with the footballing aspect he would have been correct.

Can't see this as anything other than a massive backward step for Derry.
He didn't use the style of football though, it was all about managers being paid. As I said earlier what a hypocrite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 19, 2023, 04:18:49 PM

If he has just gone with the footballing aspect he would have been correct.

Can't see this as anything other than a massive backward step for Derry.
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Absolutely - imagine a Harte managed Derry side playing v Kerry this past summer. It would have been an unwatchable dirge, rather than one of the most exciting games of the year. Very poor decision I think for Derry - will the players be happy?
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Il watch closely how the team you follow in Division 1 sets up on Sunday, hopefully it isn't unwatchable dirge but its more than likely going to be
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 19, 2023, 04:46:42 PM

If he has just gone with the footballing aspect he would have been correct.

Can't see this as anything other than a massive backward step for Derry.
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Absolutely - imagine a Harte managed Derry side playing v Kerry this past summer. It would have been an unwatchable dirge, rather than one of the most exciting games of the year. Very poor decision I think for Derry - will the players be happy?
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The man took Louth from Div 4 to on the brink of Div 1 and got them to a Leinster final,
He is a winner, don't think Derry could have done much better.

Don't think Derry supporters will care if they come up the road with Sam if it was pretty or not.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 20, 2023, 01:33:39 PM
Great weekend of football on the cards.

expect Friday nights to be a cracker and if DMA is back for casements should see them over the line.

cargin should have enough for lavey IMO.

a Bannside vs Country Bumpkin Final ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2023, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 20, 2023, 01:33:39 PMGreat weekend of football on the cards.

expect Friday nights to be a cracker and if DMA is back for casements should see them over the line.

cargin should have enough for lavey IMO.

a Bannside vs Country Bumpkin Final ??

What are the odds in both games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 20, 2023, 01:40:05 PM
Do we really have a shortage of referees in Antrim? Brendan Toland reffing two semi finals in two days?? What is the process for appointing refs and is Toland not involved in doing so?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 02:29:14 PM
No is t
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 20, 2023, 01:40:05 PMDo we really have a shortage of referees in Antrim? Brendan Toland reffing two semi finals in two days?? What is the process for appointing refs and is Toland not involved in doing so?

No is the simple answer to that one, there are 4 people that do the organising of games at all county level in juvenile and senior. He does not look after football.

But yes, we have a shortage of referees, all welcome ;)  new course starting in Jan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 20, 2023, 05:35:51 PM
Bannside is very quiet the nerves must be kicking in now  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 20, 2023, 07:29:14 PM
Dunloy are formidable opposition, but I'd be optimistic that PG1 can make the final. No point in taking any other viewpoint Lar. Some great matches in store.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 20, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2023, 07:29:14 PMDunloy are formidable opposition, but I'd be optimistic that PG1 can make the final. No point in taking any other viewpoint Lar. Some great matches in store.


PG1 be in the Final without a doubt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 21, 2023, 09:32:32 AM
Name the 4?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 20, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2023, 07:29:14 PMDunloy are formidable opposition, but I'd be optimistic that PG1 can make the final. No point in taking any other viewpoint Lar. Some great matches in store.


PG1 be in the Final without a doubt

Dunloy have had their big win against a quickly fading LD. They'll not repeat it against PG1, not a hope in hell. PG1 with a comfortable win.
As for the other semi, the illustrious Lavey contingent will put it up to Cargin and if Cargin perform like they did the last day then they're gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 21, 2023, 10:43:03 AM
Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 20, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2023, 07:29:14 PMDunloy are formidable opposition, but I'd be optimistic that PG1 can make the final. No point in taking any other viewpoint Lar. Some great matches in store.


PG1 be in the Final without a doubt

Dunloy have had their big win against a quickly fading LD. They'll not repeat it against PG1, not a hope in hell. PG1 with a comfortable win.
As for the other semi, the illustrious Lavey contingent will put it up to Cargin and if Cargin perform like they did the last day then they're gone.

Wont be as easy for PG1 as you think especially if they continue to concede every single kick out. Dunloy are so direct that just simply giving them the ball from every kick out could cause problems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 21, 2023, 05:55:57 PM
Was chatting to Decky MC Geehan Tuesday,thinks they've more than enough to get over Pg1,couple off good weeks under there belt,Down manager in taking a few sessions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on September 21, 2023, 06:39:24 PM
Why would they fear casements, they beat a lamh dherg team that had beat portglenone already in the group stages,Gregory will be worried what if they do win,could screw their chances off 5 in a row
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 21, 2023, 07:54:05 PM
Also think it's not fair on the dunloy club having the play two separate games at two separate venues within half an HR off each other,surely there are players on both dunloy teams that are family having to decide which game to go to and which to miss out on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2023, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 21, 2023, 07:54:05 PMAlso think it's not fair on the dunloy club having the play two separate games at two separate venues within half an HR off each other,surely there are players on both dunloy teams that are family having to decide which game to go to and which to miss out on

Was mentioned before. Not all clubs have availability in terms of stewarding, pitch availability, with rain predicted all weekend it's also a factor worth considering.

Outside looking in it's simple
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 21, 2023, 10:42:28 PM
That's true MR 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 21, 2023, 11:00:36 PM
I suppose it was the same for St Paul's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 22, 2023, 11:20:11 AM
Funny how your mates have shoe horned you in again MR2 to a semi final- the inner circle must be very small

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 02:29:14 PMNo is t
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 20, 2023, 01:40:05 PMDo we really have a shortage of referees in Antrim? Brendan Toland reffing two semi finals in two days?? What is the process for appointing refs and is Toland not involved in doing so?

No is the simple answer to that one, there are 4 people that do the organising of games at all county level in juvenile and senior. He does not look after football.

But yes, we have a shortage of referees, all welcome ;)  new course starting in Jan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2023, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 22, 2023, 11:20:11 AMFunny how your mates have shoe horned you in again MR2 to a semi final- the inner circle must be very small

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 02:29:14 PMNo is t
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 20, 2023, 01:40:05 PMDo we really have a shortage of referees in Antrim? Brendan Toland reffing two semi finals in two days?? What is the process for appointing refs and is Toland not involved in doing so?

No is the simple answer to that one, there are 4 people that do the organising of games at all county level in juvenile and senior. He does not look after football.

But yes, we have a shortage of referees, all welcome ;)  new course starting in Jan

Last minute thing with availability. I was for Dunsilly on Sunday, I'm sure some are happier that I'm not  ;D

There's no pleasing some.

Continued abuse and attacks will do nothing to encourage potential referee's from coming forward           
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2023, 07:44:39 PM
Back to talking about football... brilliant game so far
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on September 22, 2023, 07:55:15 PM
PG1 in big trouble here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 22, 2023, 08:56:56 PM
Pg1 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 22, 2023, 09:02:37 PM
*pulls up seat*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2023, 09:04:29 PM
Brilliant game.

mentality can win or lose games when it's in the melting pot..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 22, 2023, 10:02:05 PM
Fully deserved win for Dunloy.

Watching them in full flow is a great spectacle.

Energy, movement, ability and belief, in that first half once they got the first goal you cutis tell they were hungry for more.

Coby could have taken an easy point at a stage but wanted that 3rd goal.

However, if they meet Cargin in the final, they won't let them run like that.

PG1 were too nice, there were no cynical foul, no hauling off the ball.

Cargin know the dark arts, as well as being able to play football so will be a much tougher opposition.

(Assuming it is Cargin in the final unless Lavey can surprise us all though!!)

PG1 didn't get going until they had to go for it in the last few minutes and nearly got a goal or two that would have pulled it out of the bag.

They didn't look like they had a goal in them until that stage, something I think that they have lacked in previous years, a forward that you know can get you a goal.

A lot of questions to answer after that performance.

Lacking in intensity, you'd have thought it was a league game at the end of the year, with players trying to save themselves, instead of it being a championship semi final.

Back to the drawing board for PG1 for next year.

Felt for the PG1 supporters around me, hard to take yet another semi final defeat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 22, 2023, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on September 22, 2023, 10:02:05 PMFully deserved win for Dunloy.

Watching them in full flow is a great spectacle.

Energy, movement, ability and belief, in that first half once they got the first goal you cutis tell they were hungry for more.

Coby could have taken an easy point at a stage but wanted that 3rd goal.

However, if they meet Cargin in the final, they won't let them run like that.

PG1 were too nice, there were no cynical foul, no hauling off the ball.

Cargin know the dark arts, as well as being able to play football so will be a much tougher opposition.

(Assuming it is Cargin in the final unless Lavey can surprise us all though!!)

PG1 didn't get going until they had to go for it in the last few minutes and nearly got a goal or two that would have pulled it out of the bag.

They didn't look like they had a goal in them until that stage, something I think that they have lacked in previous years, a forward that you know can get you a goal.

A lot of questions to answer after that performance.

Lacking in intensity, you'd have thought it was a league game at the end of the year, with players trying to save themselves, instead of it being a championship semi final.

Back to the drawing board for PG1 for next year.

Felt for the PG1 supporters around me, hard to take yet another semi final defeat.

Agree.....although PG1 believe they are on a par with those who are well used to dining at the top table the harsh reality was written large again tonight.
They were poor against L Dhearg and not much better again against Cuchullian's....

Cargin may well be asked similar questions on Sunday but although the underdogs will have a large following R D's men are certainly "the old dogs for the hard road" and lessons have been well learned (I hope)....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2023, 12:07:23 AM
Well done Dunloy, a brilliant dual club with a true GAA ethos. They play a simple brand of direct football, through the middle fast one touch football, totally unselfish, no one carrying balls into tackles, and lots of space being created upfront.  A lot to like about their style, with enough genuine quality that if they so desired they could have half a dozen county senior panellists.

PG1 didn't score for the last 17 minutes, and that won't win anything at this level. Tonight too many left their shooting boots at home. In fairness, Cuchullians defending was relentless, you have to give them credit for that too.

No excuses tonight, no hard luck stories to live with through the winter. May the best team win the McNamee Cup.






Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 23, 2023, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 23, 2023, 12:33:16 AMSimply not good enough. Players aren't good enough, they give 100 every time just aren't skilled enough.
Management not good enough, leave 3 of fastest players in Ireland never mind antrim to Waltz through at will.
Supporters not good enough no encouragement or bite or abuse let's be honest it gets us going. Was under the tunnel and heard nothing, fellas on hill telling me the same.
Fair play til Dunloy best team by a mile

How'd you analyse all that from under a tunnel ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 23, 2023, 08:32:34 AM
Perhaps last night can rid us of the lazy excuses of Dual club vs Single code.  If you are good enough then you'll compete at both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2023, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 23, 2023, 08:32:34 AMPerhaps last night can rid us of the lazy excuses of Dual club vs Single code.  If you are good enough then you'll compete at both.

Then why does it not happen more often?

Think we were the last club to reach both finals. It takes a special group of players to come through for that to happen

It's a daft post, hanging your coat on that one spike.

If we take the last few years Cargin totally on top, single code, if you can't see that then you're either being a dick or not as clever as I had thought you were
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on September 23, 2023, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 20, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2023, 07:29:14 PMDunloy are formidable opposition, but I'd be optimistic that PG1 can make the final. No point in taking any other viewpoint Lar. Some great matches in store.


PG1 be in the Final without a doubt

Dunloy have had their big win against a quickly fading LD. They'll not repeat it against PG1, not a hope in hell. PG1 with a comfortable win.
As for the other semi, the illustrious Lavey contingent will put it up to Cargin and if Cargin perform like they did the last day then they're gone.

It's a funny old game CK.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 23, 2023, 10:45:53 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on September 23, 2023, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 20, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 20, 2023, 07:29:14 PMDunloy are formidable opposition, but I'd be optimistic that PG1 can make the final. No point in taking any other viewpoint Lar. Some great matches in store.


PG1 be in the Final without a doubt

Dunloy have had their big win against a quickly fading LD. They'll not repeat it against PG1, not a hope in hell. PG1 with a comfortable win.
As for the other semi, the illustrious Lavey contingent will put it up to Cargin and if Cargin perform like they did the last day then they're gone.

It's a funny old game CK.

Aye certainly is that. They have shut me, and many others up. Well done Dunloy and hard luck to PG1. Better team won by all accounts. Could they win the double? What an achievement that would be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 23, 2023, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 23, 2023, 12:07:23 AMWell done Dunloy, a brilliant dual club with a true GAA ethos. They play a simple brand of direct football, through the middle fast one touch football, totally unselfish, no one carrying balls into tackles, and lots of space being created upfront.  A lot to like about their style, with enough genuine quality that if they so desired they could have half a dozen county senior panellists.

PG1 didn't score for the last 17 minutes, and that won't win anything at this level. Tonight too many left their shooting boots at home. In fairness, Cuchullians defending was relentless, you have to give them credit for that too.

No excuses tonight, no hard luck stories to live with through the winter. May the best team win the McNamee Cup.


Always gracious in defeat BS in all fairness to you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2023, 11:17:53 AM
I'm not sure too many people are giving Dunloy much hope at all this year, I ref'd them twice last year in the semi and final of intermediate, they completely blew teams away with the fast pace and direct running and accuracy from frees is a big benefit also.

Not too surprising, but it will be a juggling affair to get it right so that Dunloy have all their players available for the final, should their seniors get the hurling final, arguably one of their best players did not play last night and think there was another injured player who has started for them on the line.

I must say also the coverage online was very good and not just because a team mate was on it, Kieran is very good and the other guy (name escapes me) was very good also.

Was speaking to someone earlier, they said there was a good vibe at the game also, with loads of neutrals at the match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2023, 11:43:32 AM
The conditioning their fast guys have got from county hurling is I would imagine a big help. What odds a st brigid's Dunloy final  ;D (highly unlikely to happen I imagine).

I notice no Molloy last night. I wonder how bad his injury is?

Big 2 maybe 3 weeks for the Dunloy club. They wouldn't want the hurling derailed by loughgiel in the middle of all this!

Bs always comes across very well in defeat or victory unlike some others! I do hope some day you see your club lift a title bs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2023, 11:59:54 AM
Maybe a stretch but I would be surprised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jmcgdoire on September 23, 2023, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2023, 11:43:32 AMThe conditioning their fast guys have got from county hurling is I would imagine a big help. What odds a st brigid's Dunloy final  ;D (highly unlikely to happen I imagine).

I notice no Molloy last night. I wonder how bad his injury is?

Big 2 maybe 3 weeks for the Dunloy club. They wouldn't want the hurling derailed by loughgiel in the middle of all this!

Bs always comes across very well in defeat or victory unlike some others! I do hope some day you see your club lift a title bs.

I dont think a dunloy brigids final is all that unlikely. Regardless of tomorrows result we are in for a great final. I was very impressed with dunloy last night. A real talented group of lads

My prediction would be Cargin outlast St brigids tomorrow and pull away at the end. And Dunloy bring it to them in the final.

Would be fantastic to see a double in antrim. Anyone know the last time this was achieved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 23, 2023, 01:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2023, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: Spike on September 23, 2023, 08:32:34 AMPerhaps last night can rid us of the lazy excuses of Dual club vs Single code.  If you are good enough then you'll compete at both.

Then why does it not happen more often?

Think we were the last club to reach both finals. It takes a special group of players to come through for that to happen

It's a daft post, hanging your coat on that one spike.

If we take the last few years Cargin totally on top, single code, if you can't see that then you're either being a dick or not as clever as I had thought you were

Your problem was you couldn't transfer in as much hurlers as you could footballers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 24, 2023, 02:19:06 AM
Quote from: 1884 on September 23, 2023, 12:44:44 PMDeath,taxes and Portglenone bottling it  ;D

Wouldnt say they bottled it. They were beat by the better team on the day.

If you mean they wouldnt have a better chance to get to a final, then i agree.

As McGourty said on commentary, they lack the scoring forwards. Will always come back to bite them.

The double is very much on. I fully expect Cargin to win, but Dunloy will not fear them. And nor should they.

They have some of the most skilled footballers in the County & thats the way they play. No fear.

Seann Elliotts point in the 2nd half...will be hard pressed to see a better score this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: LC on September 24, 2023, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: geezer on September 24, 2023, 02:19:06 AM
Quote from: 1884 on September 23, 2023, 12:44:44 PMDeath,taxes and Portglenone bottling it  ;D

Wouldnt say they bottled it. They were beat by the better team on the day.

If you mean they wouldnt have a better chance to get to a final, then i agree.

As McGourty said on commentary, they lack the scoring forwards. Will always come back to bite them.

The double is very much on. I fully expect Cargin to win, but Dunloy will not fear them. And nor should they.

They have some of the most skilled footballers in the County & thats the way they play. No fear.

Seann Elliotts point in the 2nd half...will be hard pressed to see a better score this year.



Have Dunloy many dual players?  Fair play to them, similar to Slaughtneil in terms of reaching high levels on both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2023, 09:16:53 AM
Quote from: LC on September 24, 2023, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: geezer on September 24, 2023, 02:19:06 AM
Quote from: 1884 on September 23, 2023, 12:44:44 PMDeath,taxes and Portglenone bottling it  ;D

Wouldnt say they bottled it. They were beat by the better team on the day.

If you mean they wouldnt have a better chance to get to a final, then i agree.

As McGourty said on commentary, they lack the scoring forwards. Will always come back to bite them.

The double is very much on. I fully expect Cargin to win, but Dunloy will not fear them. And nor should they.

They have some of the most skilled footballers in the County & thats the way they play. No fear.

Seann Elliotts point in the 2nd half...will be hard pressed to see a better score this year.



Have Dunloy many dual players?  Fair play to them, similar to Slaughtneil in terms of reaching high levels on both codes.

At least 9 starters in both codes out on Friday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 24, 2023, 06:10:35 PM
Well what a waste of a Sunday afternoon that was
Terrible game, worse conditions
Cargin won't care though, job done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 24, 2023, 07:56:37 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 24, 2023, 06:10:35 PMWell what a waste of a Sunday afternoon that was
Terrible game, worse conditions
Cargin won't care though, job done.

Probably about as much that needs said about the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on September 24, 2023, 09:22:09 PM
conditions were awful it wouldn't have taken much more for the game to be called off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 24, 2023, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on September 24, 2023, 09:22:09 PMconditions were awful it wouldn't have taken much more for the game to be called off

Can't even comment on that game such was the weather

What odds if it was put back a week, start of 2nd half I thought it had to be stopped, surprised the ref played on. What's the craic with stopping a game once its started MR2?

Fancy Cargin to do the same In the final and grind out the win. Bigger, older , stronger men were more suited to that weather today. I'd say they'll be too physical for Dunloy too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2023, 10:46:00 PM
Stopping a game is completely down to the ref. Didn't see it as I was ref'ing, was the ground as bad as the Rossa game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 24, 2023, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2023, 10:46:00 PMStopping a game is completely down to the ref. Didn't see it as I was ref'ing, was the ground as bad as the Rossa game?

Arguably worse!! Like if you forcibly kicked the ball a boot on the ground it would maybe only travel a metre then stop in a puddle, unwatchable!

Hope Dunloy have a real go in the final and give us all an exciting game and die with their boots on if they have to, kick the ball in fast and long.
As Kieran said on commentary worst thing can happen is if your full forward doesn't catch it you lose the ball 100 metres from your own goal.
Defensive no risk football won't win ya anything, as Cargin themselves found out v Glen last year.

I hope and expect Dunloy to have a go, they've nothing to lose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 25, 2023, 07:07:31 AM
Gold you obv didn't watch Dunloy in the quarter and semi if you are even debating whether they will have a go.  We won yesterday in awful conditions, found a way to win, as this group of player have done time and time again.
St B"s brought a bit of competitiveness in the first half but they were overrun in the second half, outscored 2-3 to one point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AM
Bridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2023, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

i heard about that  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron123 on September 25, 2023, 11:27:32 AM
BRING ON THE TOOME MEN
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2023, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

I seem to remember a county final not that long ago with the same 'putrid' style. Maybe thats just a coincidence then  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 25, 2023, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

EMBARRASSING!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2023, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

I seem to remember a county final not that long ago with the same 'putrid' style. Maybe thats just a coincidence then  ;)

Nope no coincidence, when teams come up against Cargin they play extremely defensive style of putrid football ;) 


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 25, 2023, 11:54:12 AM
Hopefully three decent finals coming up. Dunloy are the fairytale story hopefully they perfrom to their potential

Glenravel v All Saints, Top 2 in the division and a derby. Could swing either way

Rasharkin havent had to get out of 2nd gear this year. ODs only team capable of matching them in junior so lets hope its a game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 25, 2023, 11:57:24 AM
Brutal conditions yesterday didnt make for the best spectacle. Brigids done well 1st half but Cargin completely dominated the game after the 1st goal. Once Cargin ramped up the physicality, Brigids didnt want to know.

Any word on Shivers injury? Looked like his hip.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2023, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2023, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

I seem to remember a county final not that long ago with the same 'putrid' style. Maybe thats just a coincidence then  ;)



I remember one county final that was 5-4 away back when I had hair! Up in Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 25, 2023, 12:34:51 PM
3 out of the 4 goals we seen this weekend in the senior championship were nothing short of shameful, you would be annoyed if your GoGames team conceded them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on September 25, 2023, 12:47:29 PM
The commentators weren't very complimentary of the Referee yesterday. Said he couldn't keep up with the play on numerous occasions. Some very harsh calls and some ridiculous calls were their exact words. Have to say, Ciaran McGourty is excellent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on September 25, 2023, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: 1884 on September 23, 2023, 12:44:44 PMDeath,taxes and Portglenone bottling it  ;D

PG1 wouldnt have bottled it if the managers used their heads and brought on Mick Kelly (Paddys brother). Everyone knows that game was calling out for micks physicality and line breaking ability.
Another bad call was when they took off young colon tiernan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 25, 2023, 01:43:48 PM
What does the Building Site line mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 25, 2023, 01:47:18 PM
Congrats to Cargin, only one team in it in the 2nd half when it counted. The Lavey men were no-where to be seen when questions were being asked.

Should be a good final. Dunloy won't lie down anyway, you can be sure of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 25, 2023, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 25, 2023, 01:43:48 PMWhat does the Building Site line mean?
'Go back to the building site', The St B Captain was heard saying this to a Cargin player as a sledge. Taken to mean if working on a building site during the week was worthy of an insult  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2023, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on September 25, 2023, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: 1884 on September 23, 2023, 12:44:44 PMDeath,taxes and Portglenone bottling it  ;D

PG1 wouldnt have bottled it if the managers used their heads and brought on Mick Kelly (Paddys brother). Everyone knows that game was calling out for micks physicality and line breaking ability.
Another bad call was when they took off young colon tiernan.

Maybe didn't have the stomach for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 25, 2023, 01:59:53 PM
Think it is a bit harsh on Conall, I imagine it was a difficult game to ref given the conditions, however I really do have concerns as to the fitness levels of our referees, outside of MR2(as much as it pains me to say  ;) ) and McDonald do we have any other refs who can keep up with play? Even Lavery was stuggling badly on Saturday in a game which was played at a snail's pace

Quote from: BelSaft on September 25, 2023, 12:47:29 PMThe commentators weren't very complimentary of the Referee yesterday. Said he couldn't keep up with the play on numerous occasions. Some very harsh calls and some ridiculous calls were their exact words. Have to say, Ciaran McGourty is excellent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2023, 02:20:15 PM
Skinny is super fit.. did a half marathon in 1.32 and was fit to run a further 4 odd miles in a senior championship game that same day is fairly fit!!

Id say if he packs in the intercounty stuff he may come back and do football!

But in all seriousness, the level of fitness from the top teams in football and hurling (which because of game, is harder still) means even the fittest of ref's have difficulty getting to the right place for some big calls....very difficult to attract fit young lads (and lassies) to referee, who in their right mind would?

What needs to happen to get the best people or potentially the best people to get involved?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 25, 2023, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 25, 2023, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 25, 2023, 01:43:48 PMWhat does the Building Site line mean?
'Go back to the building site', The St B Captain was heard saying this to a Cargin player as a sledge. Taken to mean if working on a building site during the week was worthy of an insult  ;D

Coughing up the ball for the first goal! Karma!!! maybe should keep the mouth closed!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on September 25, 2023, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on September 25, 2023, 01:59:53 PMThink it is a bit harsh on Conall, I imagine it was a difficult game to ref given the conditions, however I really do have concerns as to the fitness levels of our referees, outside of MR2(as much as it pains me to say  ;) ) and McDonald do we have any other refs who can keep up with play? Even Lavery was stuggling badly on Saturday in a game which was played at a snail's pace


My biggest bug bear with Roberts is when games are played in poor conditions he seems to let lads engage in multiple scrums when the ball is being picked up. There is no consistency in those scenarios it seems to be a freefall. It was same in the aghagallon cargin final last year endless scenarios of lads just piling into scrums to pick it up some free kicks some not

Quote from: BelSaft on September 25, 2023, 12:47:29 PMThe commentators weren't very complimentary of the Referee yesterday. Said he couldn't keep up with the play on numerous occasions. Some very harsh calls and some ridiculous calls were their exact words. Have to say, Ciaran McGourty is excellent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 25, 2023, 03:06:10 PM
As much as I understand the point you are making I am not buying, while I agree players have not been fitter, footballer has never been slower back and forward back and forward, even when there is a quick break they tend to stop at a point for more of the hand passing

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2023, 02:20:15 PMSkinny is super fit.. did a half marathon in 1.32 and was fit to run a further 4 odd miles in a senior championship game that same day is fairly fit!!

Id say if he packs in the intercounty stuff he may come back and do football!

But in all seriousness, the level of fitness from the top teams in football and hurling (which because of game, is harder still) means even the fittest of ref's have difficulty getting to the right place for some big calls....very difficult to attract fit young lads (and lassies) to referee, who in their right mind would?

What needs to happen to get the best people or potentially the best people to get involved?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 25, 2023, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 25, 2023, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 25, 2023, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 25, 2023, 01:43:48 PMWhat does the Building Site line mean?
'Go back to the building site', The St B Captain was heard saying this to a Cargin player as a sledge. Taken to mean if working on a building site during the week was worthy of an insult  ;D

Coughing up the ball for the first goal! Karma!!! maybe should keep the mouth closed!



Good few of them mouthing from what I hear
Truth of it is when cargin got physical they didn't want to know a case of usual story with NB they have absolutely no middle in them at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 25, 2023, 05:56:32 PM
Looking forward to our 22nd appearance in a County senior final......

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on September 25, 2023, 07:09:24 PM
What are the odds for a Dunloy double? 

If posters were to be believed they dispatched the top side in the county in the seni final. A bit of history awaits them if they can do what st johns and St galls failed to do. Not every year a chance to make history is offered
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on September 25, 2023, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

Don't pass all the buck onto st Brigids. It takes 2 to tango and Cargin scored 3 points first half, took zero risks and were happy to play the waiting game.

Cargin got 2 lucky goals and was enough to see them through in a war of attrition in horrendous conditions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on September 25, 2023, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 25, 2023, 07:50:30 PMSt John's have done it 5 times.

Was that in the 70s/80s ?

Slaughtneil only club that comes to mind with such good teams in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2023, 08:35:15 PM
Sure Dungiven did it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 25, 2023, 08:35:44 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 25, 2023, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on September 25, 2023, 10:57:16 AMBridget's absolutely putrid style of football, fully to blame of how bad a game it was, have to laugh shouting we have no respect in their huddle, respect is earned and one thing is for sure they earned zero yesterday.
When We got stuck in they didn't want to know.

Our lads will be happy men on the building site today  ;D  ;D  ;D

Don't pass all the buck onto st Brigids. It takes 2 to tango and Cargin scored 3 points first half, took zero risks and were happy to play the waiting game.

Cargin got 2 lucky goals and was enough to see them through in a war of attrition in horrendous conditions.







If you call a lucky goal Tomas McCann dispossessing the biddies courageous captain and Conhuir Johnston calmly sticking it in the net then yes maybe was a touch lucky alright 🤭
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2023, 07:35:07 AM
Quote from: 1884 on September 25, 2023, 08:38:56 PMWhere will the Lavey men be next year?

All going back home, everyones hugged and made up I'm told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on September 26, 2023, 09:17:18 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2023, 07:35:07 AM
Quote from: 1884 on September 25, 2023, 08:38:56 PMWhere will the Lavey men be next year?

All going back home, everyones hugged and made up I'm told.

I would assume some of them will be involved with Derry u20s and senior panels unless now they have transferred clubs maybe they might don the saffron jersey ??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2023, 10:21:43 AM
JFC Final - Fri 6th Oct @ 7.30 in Dunsilly
IFC Final - Sat 7th Oct @ 3.00 in Portglenone
SFC Final - Sun 8th Oct @ 2.30 in Corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 26, 2023, 10:24:39 AM
Hearing GMcN away from Creggan,also heard at the Breslin cup,possibly a new man in at pg1,Paddy and Mickey  Kelly's uncle Garth/Gary,any truth BS
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 26, 2023, 10:25:21 AM
I could regret saying this if the Downeys go on and win championships with St Brigids in the future, and it could well happen but for now I actually felt sympathy for them on Sunday.
They came from an amazing club in Derry, steeped in theirs and other families traditions to join where they are now. Instead they found themselves in opposition to a club not unlike where they departed (Cargin and Lavey were formed by the same person), and I don't think it was a comfortable hour for them or their families.
Onto Dunloy for us now, all into the unknown and should make for a great / different final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2023, 10:30:37 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 26, 2023, 10:24:39 AMHearing GMcN away from Creggan,also heard at the Breslin cup,possibly a new man in at pg1,Paddy and Mickey  Kelly's uncle Garth/Gary,any truth BS

if theyre looking to take the next step, then this would be a backwards move
Only IMO ofcourse.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on September 26, 2023, 10:34:59 AM
Why do you say that Hoof?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2023, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on September 26, 2023, 10:34:59 AMWhy do you say that Hoof?

See above ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2023, 02:00:59 PM
So with the notable exception of Conhuir Johnston (who got a few minutes game time) and Eunan Quinn are the only players left in pursuit of a senior championship medal from the county squad.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on September 26, 2023, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: Saul goodman on September 26, 2023, 09:17:18 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 26, 2023, 07:35:07 AM
Quote from: 1884 on September 25, 2023, 08:38:56 PMWhere will the Lavey men be next year?

All going back home, everyones hugged and made up I'm told.

I would assume some of them will be involved with Derry u20s and senior panels unless now they have transferred clubs maybe they might don the saffron jersey ??
When you transfer club you have to declare your county as far as I know. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 26, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
St brides are a laugh. Pull men from here, there and tim buck fecking 2!!! If the downeys head back to lavey at any stage they will find themselves relegated with out a doubt. The sledging i heard on sunday from them was nothing short of embarrassing.

They must have put there b*lls under their skirts before the cargin game!!!

rant over. Makes for an interesting final.

The paddies also ran glenravel close on saturday - glenravel should finish the job now a good blend of age in the team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on September 26, 2023, 02:36:35 PM
Where has Ciaran Bradley been at? Injured i take it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 26, 2023, 03:28:27 PM
On the way to Oz......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on September 27, 2023, 10:08:16 AM
GMCN going to a belfast club i hear.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 27, 2023, 10:10:47 AM
Go on, LD?

Quote from: belfastsaff on September 27, 2023, 10:08:16 AMGMCN going to a belfast club i hear.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 27, 2023, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 27, 2023, 10:08:16 AMGMCN going to a belfast club i hear.....
Can't see any big name club, taking him on, 1 championship win in 6 years at what was a top 2 club through this period.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 27, 2023, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 26, 2023, 02:15:09 PMSt brides are a laugh. Pull men from here, there and tim buck fecking 2!!! If the downeys head back to lavey at any stage they will find themselves relegated with out a doubt. The sledging i heard on sunday from them was nothing short of embarrassing.

They must have put there b*lls under their skirts before the cargin game!!!

rant over. Makes for an interesting final.

The paddies also ran glenravel close on saturday - glenravel should finish the job now a good blend of age in the team.


Does sledging not go on in most games these days? Maybe Sunday was worse? Yes take the Downeys out of that team and there isnt much else. I can't see them going back to Lavey tbh as they've truly shafted their former clubmates.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on September 27, 2023, 06:08:12 PM
Quote from: geezer on September 26, 2023, 02:36:35 PMWhere has Ciaran Bradley been at? Injured i take it?

A class act, wondered where he had gone. Gone for good?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2023, 07:29:10 PM
Quote from: ck on September 27, 2023, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 26, 2023, 02:15:09 PMSt brides are a laugh. Pull men from here, there and tim buck fecking 2!!! If the downeys head back to lavey at any stage they will find themselves relegated with out a doubt. The sledging i heard on sunday from them was nothing short of embarrassing.

They must have put there b*lls under their skirts before the cargin game!!!

rant over. Makes for an interesting final.

The paddies also ran glenravel close on saturday - glenravel should finish the job now a good blend of age in the team.


Does sledging not go on in most games these days? Maybe Sunday was worse? Yes take the Downeys out of that team and there isnt much else. I can't see them going back to Lavey tbh as they've truly shafted their former clubmates.

Happens in every game, be it goading yehoooooing scores/frees/tackles or your ma jokes!!

I'm a bit old for that shite in my playing days, had you said anything it would have been followed by a punch in the gub! And the ref would have said "you asked for that"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on September 28, 2023, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2023, 07:29:10 PM
Quote from: ck on September 27, 2023, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 26, 2023, 02:15:09 PMSt brides are a laugh. Pull men from here, there and tim buck fecking 2!!! If the downeys head back to lavey at any stage they will find themselves relegated with out a doubt. The sledging i heard on sunday from them was nothing short of embarrassing.

They must have put there b*lls under their skirts before the cargin game!!!

rant over. Makes for an interesting final.

The paddies also ran glenravel close on saturday - glenravel should finish the job now a good blend of age in the team.


Does sledging not go on in most games these days? Maybe Sunday was worse? Yes take the Downeys out of that team and there isnt much else. I can't see them going back to Lavey tbh as they've truly shafted their former clubmates.

Happens in every game, be it goading yehoooooing scores/frees/tackles or your ma jokes!!

I'm a bit old for that shite in my playing days, had you said anything it would have been followed by a punch in the gub! And the ref would have said "you asked for that"

Is there any rules on it? i know there was big talk about it on the county scene a few years back, but if you were to overhear anything (which is unlikely) have you any powers to do anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on September 29, 2023, 11:50:30 AM
Any new call ups for the Antrim panel this year? any people should get the buzz?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 29, 2023, 11:50:30 AMAny new call ups for the Antrim panel this year? any people should get the buzz?


Surely the whole Dunloy team should get a call up they set football ablaze in the county by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 29, 2023, 12:23:37 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 29, 2023, 11:50:30 AMAny new call ups for the Antrim panel this year? any people should get the buzz?


Surely the whole Dunloy team should get a call up they set football ablaze in the county by all accounts

They have a few standout players but their sucess is built off letting the handbrake off and trying to play football. Not every team does that

Seann Elliott would be an excellent addition to the panel. As far as i know D Smyth has been asked before an refused
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on September 29, 2023, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 29, 2023, 11:50:30 AMAny new call ups for the Antrim panel this year? any people should get the buzz?


Surely the whole Dunloy team should get a call up they set football ablaze in the county by all accounts

Taking div 3 footballers would certainly raise a few eyebrows
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron123 on September 29, 2023, 01:00:36 PM
Seann Elliott would be an excellent addition to the panel. As far as i know D Smyth has been asked before an refused
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That is incorrect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PM
Some hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week. Hype in the media, social media that is.
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on September 29, 2023, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it

Cargin will get their fill of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it
Absolutely nothing wrong with it, just remarked there had been a lot of hype.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on September 29, 2023, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it
Absolutely nothing wrong with it, just remarked there had been a lot of hype.

Can't see them being too worried about the hype considering most the panel were involved in an All Ireland Club final. They've nothing to lose either. All the pressure is on Cargin really. And all their players have been here before too so I can't see the occasion getting the better of any team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on September 29, 2023, 01:54:51 PM
The Dunloy lads couldn't be feeling much more confident than they do atm. Win or lose they've achieved something nobody outside Dunloy thought they could. If they lose this it will be purely because Cargin are a better football team. Can't see it being about fitness, desire or the occasion, purely football ability. Cargin should win, they have a great team but they'll no doubt have to play well to beat this team. They're more than capable of it and 9 out of 10 times they'd  win it but Dunloy will have no fear whatsoever.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 29, 2023, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it

They are not a division three team. Don't be so insulting to them. They play there best players in the championship, explaining why they are in the final, if they had of played the players they played in the league they would have been stuffed in the first round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on September 29, 2023, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it
Absolutely nothing wrong with it, just remarked there had been a lot of hype.

 ;D

This must be the most secretive hype ever, I'm with MR2 I've not seen any of it on social media either. Think they will be too busy preparing for their hurling semi final this weekend for that.

Was a poor effort at a bit of deflection though EOC  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on September 29, 2023, 02:28:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 29, 2023, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it
Absolutely nothing wrong with it, just remarked there had been a lot of hype.

 ;D

This must be the most secretive hype ever, I'm with MR2 I've not seen any of it on social media either. Think they will be too busy preparing for their hurling semi final this weekend for that.

Was a poor effort at a bit of deflection though EOC  :o


I wouldn't say there has been a lot of "hype" either, although there has been a lot of praise in how they have played to get to the final, which I think was well deserved praise.

I think everyone is just glad to watch attacking football rather than 15 men behind the ball.

As said above, they have nothing to lose in the final so I hope they go out and try to play their football and not fall into the trap of trying to nullify Cargin.

Although I can see Cargin being well suited to snuff the attacking threat out in a way that PG1 couldn't,  and they will have the experience and quality to take the win handily enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 29, 2023, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PMSome hype about Dunloy this last week and hopefully a lot more this coming week.

Understandable seeing they are a div3 team and haven't been in a final for over 80 years?

Would be fair enough, no?

Jeze yous are a bit hard on them lol

In fairness I haven't seen much about it

They are not a division three team. Don't be so insulting to them. They play there best players in the championship, explaining why they are in the final, if they had of played the players they played in the league they would have been stuffed in the first round.

If you can't see how I presented this post, then I can't help you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 29, 2023, 03:51:58 PM
Of course Dunloy are not proceeding to a County football final without a chance.
But they really need to up the ante as their form in just getting the better of an out of sorts under strength Creggan or will not be enough.

Cargin have been there and done that and arguably game moved up a gear in the past couple of years.

Cargin will go in as hot favourites and those who look forward to upset put your money down for a good return
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on September 29, 2023, 04:04:30 PM
Someone grab the medication he's rambling again

Of course Dunloy are not proceeding to a County football final without a chance.
But they really need to up the ante as their form in just getting the better of an out of sorts under strength Creggan or will not be enough

Cargin have been there and done that and arguably game moved up a gear in the past couple of years.

Cargin will go in as hot favourites and those who look forward to upset put your money down for a good return

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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Did this kind of thing not happen wrt "the opposition for the semi final too...

Dunloy will be more worried about Loughgiel this weekend than anything and then will go back to it.

It's the same as the St Brigid's game. There's a chance Cargin will be beat but they're strong favourites and it'd be a big surprise if they were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 07:12:47 PM
I did the game they played Creggan and Creggan bate them by 3..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on September 29, 2023, 08:06:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 07:12:47 PMI did the game they played Creggan and Creggan bate them by 3..

Right you are ref....should read, 'not able to get the better...........etc, etc.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wee Barky on September 29, 2023, 09:10:11 PM
Cargin are 1/4 for the cup with pp.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on September 30, 2023, 06:54:36 AM
I expect Cargin to come out on top but they won't have it all their own way.

The Dunloy championship team is a top half Div 1 team so no surprise to see them at this stage. 

In fact I was looking forward to seeing them play senior championship as I suspected they would leave a few bloody noses.

As said by others, no way is the occasion getting to these lads, they are stacked with players who have graced bigger occasions than the Cargin boys.

But Cargin just have more depth of footballing talent/experience and I expect that to be the difference.  And expect fouls any time Dunloy turn the ball over within their own 45.

Won't mind being wrong though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 01, 2023, 04:40:09 PM
So rumour has it Cuchullian's lost interest in the hurling championship......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:07:37 PM
Perhaps not the result today that Cargin would have hoped for or expected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 01, 2023, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:07:37 PMPerhaps not the result today that Cargin would have hoped for or expected

Totally irrelevant to us about a hurling result tbh means nothing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 01, 2023, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:07:37 PMPerhaps not the result today that Cargin would have hoped for or expected

Totally irrelevant to us about a hurling result tbh means nothing

👍
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2023, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 01, 2023, 04:40:09 PMSo rumour has it Cuchullian's lost interest in the hurling championship......


Is that the same rumours that they bate an out of sorts Creggan?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 01, 2023, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:07:37 PMPerhaps not the result today that Cargin would have hoped for or expected
Rosary beads in hand next week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2023, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2023, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:07:37 PMPerhaps not the result today that Cargin would have hoped for or expected
Rosary beads in hand next week

If there's not 10 points in this against a div 3 team I'd be surprised
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:39:41 AM
Shall we assume the SW ref's turned down reffing one of the finals this weekend??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:39:41 AMShall we assume the SW ref's turned down reffing one of the finals this weekend??

Which?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:48:42 AM
Snoop, Screamer, McDermott, Bowtie

Screamer maybe cup tied due to Cargin being in the SFC but no reason he could not do IFC or JFC? All City men  :-X   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 02, 2023, 11:06:20 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:48:42 AMSnoop, Screamer, McDermott, Bowtie

Screamer maybe cup tied due to Cargin being in the SFC but no reason he could not do IFC or JFC? All City men  :-X   

with 4 country teams, did you honestly think a city man wasn't going to get a day out. come on now they need something ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 02, 2023, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:48:42 AMSnoop, Screamer, McDermott, Bowtie

Screamer maybe cup tied due to Cargin being in the SFC but no reason he could not do IFC or JFC? All City men  :-X   

The name highlighted isn't good enough to ref an u10 go game blitz never mind any sort of senior semi final...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 02, 2023, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2023, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 01, 2023, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 01, 2023, 05:07:37 PMPerhaps not the result today that Cargin would have hoped for or expected
Rosary beads in hand next week

If there's not 10 points in this against a div 3 team I'd be surprised

I'd agree with this in all seriousness,  I think we are in for a one sided final,  I expect Cargin by 8 or 9 points. Would like to be wrong but I just don't see how they get close to Cargin who are miles ahead of anyone else in footballing terms right now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2023, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:39:41 AMShall we assume the SW ref's turned down reffing one of the finals this weekend??

Which?

Are they bad appointments? Also referee's are not always available, and not surprising to see ref's turn down games plus an Antrim man doing the minor final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PM
I'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 02, 2023, 02:59:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2023, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 10:39:41 AMShall we assume the SW ref's turned down reffing one of the finals this weekend??

Which?

Are they bad appointments? Also referee's are not always available, and not surprising to see ref's turn down games plus an Antrim man doing the minor final

Collie getting senior final is a fair appointment, best ref in the county at the minute no offence.
Why does Sean Laverty get no big games anymore, by his own personal choice or county choice strange seeing he's one of the only (if not the only, im unsure) Antrim refs you see at inter county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2023, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PMI'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click

Gives an answer, and never good enough... rolls eyes

There's not a match that goes by were the ref is not a topic for debate, go to a neutral game and listen to the verbal attacks from grown men, fathers/grandfathers and women! Mothers of kids squealing nonsense, its embarrassing

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 04:16:44 PM
What are you talking about, have you lost the run of yourself or are you trying to divert the attention from the click to talking about abuse of refs during games

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2023, 03:57:02 PMthe verbal attacks from grown men, fathers/grandfathers and women! Mothers of kids squealing nonsense, its embarrassing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2023, 05:00:15 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 04:16:44 PMWhat are you talking about, have you lost the run of yourself or are you trying to divert the attention from the click to talking about abuse of refs during games

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2023, 03:57:02 PMthe verbal attacks from grown men, fathers/grandfathers and women! Mothers of kids squealing nonsense, its embarrassing


I gave you a response and it wasn't good enough, then mentioned that there is not a match/appointment that goes by without a debate on the ref.

And if you are going on about 'clicks' a lot then at least spell it correctly clique

The paranoia must be keeping you up at night  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 02, 2023, 05:57:07 PM
Cargin are the kings of cuteness. Not a chance they will let the Dunloy men run amok like LD & PG1 did. They will have plenty of men back along with tactical fouling to stop the runners.

Hope they dont do it as it will make for a great game. But they will. Thats why they are champions.

Cargin by 8.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
Having the minor final at 1 o'clock in Davit's with the senior final at 2:30 in Corrigan stinks of greediness.
Instead of giving the young lads some respect and having them as the curtain raiser to the big one.
They horse them down the road so they can make money from people going to the minor final and then maybe some people going to the senior final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 03, 2023, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 09:38:41 AMHaving the minor final at 1 o'clock in Davit's with the senior final at 2:30 in Corrigan stinks of greediness.
Instead of giving the young lads some respect and having them as the curtain raiser to the big one.
They horse them down the road so they can make money from people going to the minor final and then maybe some people going to the senior final.

you reckon ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 09:38:41 AMHaving the minor final at 1 o'clock in Davit's with the senior final at 2:30 in Corrigan stinks of greediness.
Instead of giving the young lads some respect and having them as the curtain raiser to the big one.
They horse them down the road so they can make money from people going to the minor final and then maybe some people going to the senior final.

Were you at Corrigan last year? Do you think it would have taken 2 games? rain due Wed, Thurs, and Friday in Belfast and to rain on Sunday..

Who's making money here? You know the association is a charity? The money 'made' goes back into the game..

The pitch at Ballycastle at the weekend would not have taken two games, supporters going to the minor final will only care on how their club does, if they want to head up to Corrigan then grand but I know if my club is playing a final I'll only be concerned for that game, should they win back to the club, should they lose I'd be in no mood to watch another game in the rain!

But sure you keep having the digs  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 09:38:41 AMHaving the minor final at 1 o'clock in Davit's with the senior final at 2:30 in Corrigan stinks of greediness.
Instead of giving the young lads some respect and having them as the curtain raiser to the big one.
They horse them down the road so they can make money from people going to the minor final and then maybe some people going to the senior final.

Were you at Corrigan last year? Do you think it would have taken 2 games? rain due Wed, Thurs, and Friday in Belfast and to rain on Sunday..

Who's making money here? You know the association is a charity? The money 'made' goes back into the game..

The pitch at Ballycastle at the weekend would not have taken two games, supporters going to the minor final will only care on how their club does, if they want to head up to Corrigan then grand but I know if my club is playing a final I'll only be concerned for that game, should they win back to the club, should they lose I'd be in no mood to watch another game in the rain!

But sure you keep having the digs  ::)

Casting lines and getting bites.

You make it too easy MR2  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 10:05:06 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 09:38:41 AMHaving the minor final at 1 o'clock in Davit's with the senior final at 2:30 in Corrigan stinks of greediness.
Instead of giving the young lads some respect and having them as the curtain raiser to the big one.
They horse them down the road so they can make money from people going to the minor final and then maybe some people going to the senior final.

Were you at Corrigan last year? Do you think it would have taken 2 games? rain due Wed, Thurs, and Friday in Belfast and to rain on Sunday..

Who's making money here? You know the association is a charity? The money 'made' goes back into the game..

The pitch at Ballycastle at the weekend would not have taken two games, supporters going to the minor final will only care on how their club does, if they want to head up to Corrigan then grand but I know if my club is playing a final I'll only be concerned for that game, should they win back to the club, should they lose I'd be in no mood to watch another game in the rain!

But sure you keep having the digs  ::)

Casting lines and getting bites.

You make it too easy MR2  :-*  :-*

Ah sorry, my bad, I thought you thought it was a bad idea! Silly me, I've no idea how I came to that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PMI'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click

i'm Interested, which 2?

you think Mcdermott is capable of a senior final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 02:14:00 PM
I would question Tumelty and McCotter, I don't think they are there on merit, however on being 'pals' with the the decision makers

As for McDermott, I haven't seen enough of him, however did watch him in the Cargin v Rossa game and thought he didn't do too bad. He must really have pissed on your chips going by your historic posts as it seems you loose sleep thinking about him

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PMI'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click

i'm Interested, which 2?

you think Mcdermott is capable of a senior final?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 02:38:14 PM
So based on the 'on merit' comment

What would be your criteria on picking referee's?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 02:14:00 PMI would question Tumelty and McCotter, I don't think they are there on merit, however on being 'pals' with the the decision makers

As for McDermott, I haven't seen enough of him, however did watch him in the Cargin v Rossa game and thought he didn't do too bad. He must really have pissed on your chips going by your historic posts as it seems you loose sleep thinking about him

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PMI'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click

i'm Interested, which 2?

you think Mcdermott is capable of a senior final?

McDermott is renowned worst ref in the county. He isn't even bad. The word bad to compliments his refereeing too much, i would lean more towards totally rancid. He also treats the players with zero respect and always trys his best to have his say on any game I've watched him. You must have seen him enough to put his name forward to a senior final. He is not capable to ref games at a senior level never mind a senior final, maybe u15 level if he's lucky but u13 is his standard, even saying that puts some disrespect on u13 football.

I think the selection on refs for the final is fair don't really think it matters where they come from to be honest I've seen enough of tumelty and collie this year to definitely say they are there "on merit" for McCotter on the other hand i have not seen much of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 03, 2023, 02:46:37 PM
Absolute disgrace the format for the weekends events why could they not have a double header on the sunday? As for the referees, McCotter and Tumelty two good referees as for mcDermott. Not too many lads in this Forum putting the hand up to do the refereeing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 02:53:00 PM
I'm going to say weather would be one reasoning, also 4 different sets of fans at Corrigan with changing rooms and so on it might not be able to do that. That said it has held double headers before..

If its for revenue well so be it, its not like we have a pile of cash and if looking new facilities and the like it needs to be paid for

Again I've no inside track on these things.

I'm old school and lucky enough to play a minor final before our seniors, though both results that day didn't go as plan it was a great occasion at Casement so I would like a double header too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2023, 02:56:54 PM
Do stand tickets go on sale for these matches or just go to the clubs? I was looking there and notice none available. I've seen that a lot for county matches too when I've been going up there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 03, 2023, 02:58:37 PM
Double headers are fantastic. Granted the rain expected probably puts the thought to bed. Im sure if either Cargin or Dunloy were in the final it would happen. The IFC is a double header on Saturday with the minor B as All Saints are involved in both
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 02:59:03 PM
Christ almighty, I didn't think he was that bad to be honest, perhaps he has really done something bad on you personally, I know in the past he had a run in or two with Cargin perhps that is clouding your judgment, anyway cold flannel and lay down in a darken room
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 02:14:00 PMI would question Tumelty and McCotter, I don't think they are there on merit, however on being 'pals' with the the decision makers

As for McDermott, I haven't seen enough of him, however did watch him in the Cargin v Rossa game and thought he didn't do too bad. He must really have pissed on your chips going by your historic posts as it seems you loose sleep thinking about him

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PMI'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click

i'm Interested, which 2?

you think Mcdermott is capable of a senior final?

McDermott is renowned worst ref in the county. He isn't even bad. The word bad to compliments his refereeing too much, i would lean more towards totally rancid. He also treats the players with zero respect and always trys his best to have his say on any game I've watched him. You must have seen him enough to put his name forward to a senior final. He is not capable to ref games at a senior level never mind a senior final, maybe u15 level if he's lucky but u13 is his standard, even saying that puts some disrespect on u13 football.

I think the selection on refs for the final is fair don't really think it matters where they come from to be honest I've seen enough of tumelty and collie this year to definitely say they are there "on merit" for McCotter on the other hand i have not seen much of.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 03:02:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 02:59:03 PMChrist almighty, I didn't think he was that bad to be honest, perhaps he has really done something bad on you personally, I know in the past he had a run in or two with Cargin perhps that is clouding your judgment, anyway cold flannel and lay down in a darken room
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 02:14:00 PMI would question Tumelty and McCotter, I don't think they are there on merit, however on being 'pals' with the the decision makers

As for McDermott, I haven't seen enough of him, however did watch him in the Cargin v Rossa game and thought he didn't do too bad. He must really have pissed on your chips going by your historic posts as it seems you loose sleep thinking about him

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 03, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 02, 2023, 02:17:24 PMI'd question 2 of them to be honest

I know for a fact Scremer didn't turn down a game do you know if the other's did

As for Burns he is as much of a Belfast man as any up there #click

i'm Interested, which 2?

you think Mcdermott is capable of a senior final?

McDermott is renowned worst ref in the county. He isn't even bad. The word bad to compliments his refereeing too much, i would lean more towards totally rancid. He also treats the players with zero respect and always trys his best to have his say on any game I've watched him. You must have seen him enough to put his name forward to a senior final. He is not capable to ref games at a senior level never mind a senior final, maybe u15 level if he's lucky but u13 is his standard, even saying that puts some disrespect on u13 football.

I think the selection on refs for the final is fair don't really think it matters where they come from to be honest I've seen enough of tumelty and collie this year to definitely say they are there "on merit" for McCotter on the other hand i have not seen much of.


Truth hurts  :-X  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2023, 04:02:47 PM
Mr McDermott is a a good friend of the SV voice lads. I see they had their all stars at the weekend. Must of been good attenders at the ladies games all year or did they pick them going by the finals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 03, 2023, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 03, 2023, 04:02:47 PMMr McDermott is a a good friend of the SV voice lads. I see they had their all stars at the weekend. Must of been good attenders at the ladies games all year or did they pick them going by the finals?

You can see from that list they weren't paying too much attention lol One of the Moneyglass players is just back from a long term injury and has hardly played all year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2023, 04:21:29 PM
In their defense they have been putting up scores for matches I can find nowhere else. However they do seem to revert to fairly venomous personal attacks a bit too which they should stop if they went to be taken seriously. If they could be steered in the right direction with some of their comms maybe they'd get buy in - there's definitely a gap for some of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2023, 07:16:44 PM
No doubt about it but they need to have a word with themselves. Some of it is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AM
What's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 09:46:10 AM
Not for all the tea in China would I be a ref to leave myself open to the personal attacks that are lauded on here and the pitch, however, what I am interested in is the promotion of the games in Antrim, my own club and SW Antrim. That promotion includes the attraction of the best referees which we are struggling to do and will continue to struggle to when they are treated as they are by the inner circle, as for the inner circle what I have been told by a couple of SW refs and committee members:

Darren McKeown
Brendan Toland
Anthony McKeague
Kevin Parke
Colm McDonald
Kevin Parke
Mark O'Neill

It's an open secret

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AMWhat's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 10:05:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 09:46:10 AMNot for all the tea in China would I be a ref to leave myself open to the personal attacks that are lauded on here and the pitch, however, what I am interested in is the promotion of the games in Antrim, my own club and SW Antrim. That promotion includes the attraction of the best referees which we are struggling to do and will continue to struggle to when they are treated as they are by the inner circle, as for the inner circle what I have been told by a couple of SW refs and committee members:

Darren McKeown
Brendan Toland
Anthony McKeague
Kevin Parke
Colm McDonald
Kevin Parke
Mark O'Neill

It's an open secret

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AMWhat's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...

You seem to be in regular contact with refs, for someone who isn't one.

Suppose these men meet once a month at the top of Cavehill wear big hoods and make sacrificial offerings...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 10:09:57 AM
Go to enough matches, underage blitzes etc you run into these men, however suppose that's difficult for you to do from your box room


Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 10:05:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 09:46:10 AMNot for all the tea in China would I be a ref to leave myself open to the personal attacks that are lauded on here and the pitch, however, what I am interested in is the promotion of the games in Antrim, my own club and SW Antrim. That promotion includes the attraction of the best referees which we are struggling to do and will continue to struggle to when they are treated as they are by the inner circle, as for the inner circle what I have been told by a couple of SW refs and committee members:

Darren McKeown
Brendan Toland
Anthony McKeague
Kevin Parke
Colm McDonald
Kevin Parke
Mark O'Neill

It's an open secret

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AMWhat's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...

You seem to be in regular contact with refs, for someone who isn't one.

Suppose these men meet once a month at the top of Cavehill wear big hoods and make sacrificial offerings...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 10:19:43 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 10:09:57 AMGo to enough matches, underage blitzes etc you run into these men, however suppose that's difficult for you to do from your box room


Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 10:05:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 09:46:10 AMNot for all the tea in China would I be a ref to leave myself open to the personal attacks that are lauded on here and the pitch, however, what I am interested in is the promotion of the games in Antrim, my own club and SW Antrim. That promotion includes the attraction of the best referees which we are struggling to do and will continue to struggle to when they are treated as they are by the inner circle, as for the inner circle what I have been told by a couple of SW refs and committee members:

Darren McKeown
Brendan Toland
Anthony McKeague
Kevin Parke
Colm McDonald
Kevin Parke
Mark O'Neill

It's an open secret

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AMWhat's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...

You seem to be in regular contact with refs, for someone who isn't one.

Suppose these men meet once a month at the top of Cavehill wear big hoods and make sacrificial offerings...

Aye because its totally normal as an spectator of a match to stand at the gate of the field and wait to talk to the refs about the "inner circle" of Antrim refs.

I attended alot of football not just in my own county but the difference between me and you is I don't have 2 cards and a whistle while I'm at these matches. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 09:46:10 AMNot for all the tea in China would I be a ref to leave myself open to the personal attacks that are lauded on here and the pitch, however, what I am interested in is the promotion of the games in Antrim, my own club and SW Antrim. That promotion includes the attraction of the best referees which we are struggling to do and will continue to struggle to when they are treated as they are by the inner circle, as for the inner circle what I have been told by a couple of SW refs and committee members:

Darren McKeown
Brendan Toland
Anthony McKeague
Kevin Parke
Colm McDonald
Kevin Parke
Mark O'Neill

It's an open secret

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AMWhat's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...

The refs you named who were awarded finals not on merit but due to their dealing with the "inner circle" have not been named, have they not committed their blood sacrifice yet to be full members? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2023, 10:55:56 AM
Getting into the WTF now...

Little bit embarrassing now, I mean seriously?

Good title for a book ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2023, 12:10:57 PM
Is there a secret handshake MR?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2023, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2023, 12:10:57 PMIs there a secret handshake MR?

You'll have to read my book to find out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2023, 02:48:48 PM
Getting ridiculous the attitude of some so called GAA people toward volunteers.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 04:08:27 PM
Going by the photos from the golf day, Big Pat Shivers back with the county good to see
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2023, 05:26:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 04, 2023, 02:48:48 PMGetting ridiculous the attitude of some so called GAA people toward volunteers.



It's the age of entitlement. Those who have never ever served in any real important capacity think they can slate and bad mouth those who are doing their best.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2023, 06:57:25 PM
It's tinfoil hat stuff here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2023, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2023, 06:57:25 PMIt's tinfoil hat stuff here.

The truth is out there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 04, 2023, 07:56:10 PM
You have named 5 referees

Kevin Parke is St Endas (south west)
Mark O'Neill is Armoy (North Antrim)
The other 3 are Belfast

5 of the 6 finalists this weekend are South West clubs
1 of the 5 named refs is doing a final

Clutching at straws?



Quote from: Would ye whist on October 04, 2023, 09:46:10 AMNot for all the tea in China would I be a ref to leave myself open to the personal attacks that are lauded on here and the pitch, however, what I am interested in is the promotion of the games in Antrim, my own club and SW Antrim. That promotion includes the attraction of the best referees which we are struggling to do and will continue to struggle to when they are treated as they are by the inner circle, as for the inner circle what I have been told by a couple of SW refs and committee members:

Darren McKeown
Brendan Toland
Anthony McKeague
Kevin Parke
Colm McDonald
Kevin Parke
Mark O'Neill

It's an open secret

Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 08:53:08 AMWhat's the more secretive organisation?

The illuminati or the inner circle of Antrim referee's  ;D  ;D 

Would ye wisht is a tan foil hatter I think or maybe he is a sulking ref...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 04, 2023, 08:43:18 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 04, 2023, 04:08:27 PMGoing by the photos from the golf day, Big Pat Shivers back with the county good to see

That's great news. Good to see casement going ahead. The saffron voice lads will surely get an invite to the opening I hope. Who will be running antrim when it opens ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 04, 2023, 08:44:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2023, 05:26:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 04, 2023, 02:48:48 PMGetting ridiculous the attitude of some so called GAA people toward volunteers.



It's the age of entitlement. Those who have never ever served in any real important capacity think they can slate and bad mouth those who are doing their best.

I agree with you! Serious warriors online these days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 04, 2023, 08:46:49 PM
Looking forward to reading some football chat on this board ahead of the big game, never mind the ref conspiracy theories
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 04, 2023, 08:53:52 PM
Cargin to beat dunloy
Cushendall to beat Loughgiel
Ballymena to win IFC
Rasharkin to win JFC

What's your predictions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 04, 2023, 10:20:54 PM
Agree Rasharkin to win Junior
Didn't see any Int C'ship this season - so hard to call
And of course Dunloy have no chance against the mighty Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 08:51:45 AM
Does anyone give dunloy a chance?

Cargin and Rasharkin to win easy and a toss up in the intermediate as not much between the two teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 09:10:11 AM
Not involved in the games at the weekend, so I'm sure that has put a dent in the Illuminati theory but....

Struggling to find positives for Dunloy after Sundays game in Loughgiel, the defeat was not just devastating for them mentally but physically also, they looked drained coming off the pitch, it's going to take some effort to get back on that wave of confidence they have gathered with their championship run.

In the games I seen of them this year they would certainly match the intensity that Cargin will bring to the game and if they can get over Sundays defeat and recharge their batteries then it won't be the big defeat everyone is predicting

The other games, Ballymenea have to deliver and Glenravel can't have two final defeats in a row, Dunloy completely blew them away last year so getting back has been their main focus and Ballymena want to push on with the talent they have so its a 50/50 game

Having done the O'donnells semi last week, there are good footballers in there. Sean Pat most notably but they have plenty of warriors and grafters in that team and could cause an upset, they'll dispatch most frees given to them so that'll keep them in the game. As for Rasharkin, they'd be favs just because they fall in the bracket of not good enough to win/compete at intermediate but better than Junior. Should be a good game.

Now, good luck to all teams, die with your boots on, leave nothing in the changing rooms and have no regrets afters
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 09:18:43 AM
is Sean Pat the boy who used to play for Rossa? If so he's handy enough if not I don't know him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 09:18:43 AMis Sean Pat the boy who used to play for Rossa? If so he's handy enough if not I don't know him.

Yeah
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 09:42:12 AM
He was good at senior level so I would assume he'll be very good at that level. Rasharkin always produce some handy enough footballers too mind you and I think they'll be hard beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 05, 2023, 09:45:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 09:18:43 AMis Sean Pat the boy who used to play for Rossa? If so he's handy enough if not I don't know him.

Had a spell with the county too as far as i remember. Rasharkin massive favourites, probably better than a host of teams who played intermediate this year, should win

Glenravel big favourites too, Decent panel and should be full of confidence against a Ballymena side missing at least 3 key players

As MR2 says that defeat in the hurling will really sting Dunloy and coming up against a seasoned team like Cargin with the likes of Mick back. Will be a tough ask
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2023, 09:52:14 AM
That defeat to Loughgeil will either make or break Dunloy. They're now under pressure to salvage something from their season which is in serious danger of becoming a damp squib.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2023, 09:52:14 AMThat defeat to Loughguile will either make or break Dunloy. They're now under pressure to salvage something from their season which is in serious danger of becoming a damp squib.

Their underage has had a fantastic year in both codes so they are doing better than most clubs..

Getting to 2 senior finals in both codes would hardly be described as a damp squid, would like to see a better club this year in Antrim to be fair
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 10:00:59 AM
These boys are used to winning though. Different if that's a stretch for your club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2023, 10:08:35 AM
Well a final and Semi final they were supposed to cruise, the loss of the 5-in-a-row chance and with the bigger picture of an All Ireland assault in the bin now.  They are an extremely well run club but the possibility of empty handed Senior teams after so much promise just a week ago makes nervous reading
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 05, 2023, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 05, 2023, 10:08:35 AMWell a final and Semi final they were supposed to cruise, the loss of the 5-in-a-row chance and with the bigger picture of an All Ireland assault in the bin now.  They are an extremely well run club but the possibility of empty handed Senior teams after so much promise just a week ago makes nervous reading

Spike doing some digging here  ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2023, 10:22:06 AM
lol I really am not. I'm just calling it as I see it. There is pressure on both teams now.  Last week all the pressure was on Cargin, with some on Dunloy to get a historic double.  Now the situation has altered dramatically with Dunloy playing (as I see it) to save their season.  The pressure on Cargin as favourites remains the same as last week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 10:27:33 AM
Yeah I agree as I think Dunloy losing is a game changer completely. Previously it was nothing to lose but it has completely changed. If they'd won the hurling this was bonus territory.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 05, 2023, 11:13:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 10:27:33 AMYeah I agree as I think Dunloy losing is a game changer completely. Previously it was nothing to lose but it has completely changed. If they'd won the hurling this was bonus territory.

Do you think this makes Dunloy more or less dangerous?

No hurling final to hold back for the following week, a total free hit at a team no one expects them to even compete with.

Looking at it IMO this would have been the scenario that Cargin would have been dreading.

Still making Cargin huge favourites but the attempts to try and deflect the pressure are genuinely funny.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 11:14:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 10:27:33 AMYeah I agree as I think Dunloy losing is a game changer completely. Previously it was nothing to lose but it has completely changed. If they'd won the hurling this was bonus territory.

a now Div 3 team gets to a senior county final is bonus territory I'd say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on October 05, 2023, 11:40:01 AM
That is not Dunloys D3 team, they'll play next season inn that league. The team on Sunday is their senior championship team. This is for slow learners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 12:23:47 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on October 05, 2023, 11:40:01 AMThat is not Dunloys D3 team, they'll play next season inn that league. The team on Sunday is their senior championship team. This is for slow learners

You are defo slow learner on taking the piss!! Again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 12:31:51 PM
I know theres a thread for it, but surely Casement will get pushed on now. Has there ever been a new Head contractor appointed as i know they original ones who were also doing in the new stand at anfield recently went bust. Maybe a few million from the English FA to get the bid over the line wouldn't go a miss...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 12:31:51 PMI know theres a thread for it, but surely Casement will get pushed on now. Has there ever been a new Head contractor appointed as i know they original ones who were also doing in the new stand at anfield recently went bust. Maybe a few million from the English FA to get the bid over the line wouldn't go a miss...

The government are busted flushes at the minute and any money the Tories have they'll be spending it on keeping their voters happy i'd say..

That said it seems now that the place is getting the green light in terms of the games it might be a joint effort by Dublin, Croke the FA and the government to get it over the line!

Just need (as you have said) a builder ready to commit to it !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 12:31:51 PMI know theres a thread for it, but surely Casement will get pushed on now. Has there ever been a new Head contractor appointed as i know they original ones who were also doing in the new stand at anfield recently went bust. Maybe a few million from the English FA to get the bid over the line wouldn't go a miss...

The government are busted flushes at the minute and any money the Tories have they'll be spending it on keeping their voters happy i'd say..

That said it seems now that the place is getting the green light in terms of the games it might be a joint effort by Dublin, Croke the FA and the government to get it over the line!

Just need (as you have said) a builder ready to commit to it !

Anyone in the know among the fourm, if its up for tender or anything again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2023, 01:16:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2023, 10:27:33 AMYeah I agree as I think Dunloy losing is a game changer completely. Previously it was nothing to lose but it has completely changed. If they'd won the hurling this was bonus territory.

I'd 2nd that, Mostly the same fellows. Its all or nothing now for both clubs. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ClubScene13 on October 05, 2023, 01:29:16 PM
How much is the streaming of Sunday's game? Tyrone have a week off from football I would near throw this on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 01:33:02 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on October 05, 2023, 01:29:16 PMHow much is the streaming of Sunday's game? Tyrone have a week off from football I would near throw this on

Think the games are usually a tenner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 01:38:23 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on October 05, 2023, 01:29:16 PMHow much is the streaming of Sunday's game? Tyrone have a week off from football I would near throw this on

Paid £7 last day .. final could be more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 05, 2023, 03:37:10 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Irish government stomp up a sizeable contribution towards Casement rebuild.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2023, 04:25:53 PM
A few public bodies may be asked to search behind the sofa cushions for loose change in the near future. I am not sure the project can survive another shambles.  You would think with the Euros bid accepted there is no going back now and the GAA under big pressure to deliver too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 05, 2023, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 05, 2023, 03:37:10 PMWouldn't be surprised to see Irish government stomp up a sizeable contribution towards Casement rebuild.

Think that's the answer too. Shared Island Unit and all that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 07:46:33 PM
The "double header" on Saturday is two different payments for the games, with the probability the two games will be in different pitches, quite clearly they only care about the money...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on October 05, 2023, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 12:31:51 PMI know theres a thread for it, but surely Casement will get pushed on now. Has there ever been a new Head contractor appointed as i know they original ones who were also doing in the new stand at anfield recently went bust. Maybe a few million from the English FA to get the bid over the line wouldn't go a miss...

The government are busted flushes at the minute and any money the Tories have they'll be spending it on keeping their voters happy i'd say..

That said it seems now that the place is getting the green light in terms of the games it might be a joint effort by Dublin, Croke the FA and the government to get it over the line!

Just need (as you have said) a builder ready to commit to it !

Anyone in the know among the fourm, if its up for tender or anything again?

I was told that Heron Bros , who were joint venture with Buckingham, have stepped up and County have completed all financial checks etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 07:46:33 PMThe "double header" on Saturday is two different payments for the games, with the probability the two games will be in different pitches, quite clearly they only care about the money...

You really haven't a clue... it's hammering down with rain at the minute, so for starters it's a no brainier to have the games separately, and the county's broke as it is so getting two gates is completely the right idea..

Anyone with half a brain cell would know that.

Both pitches are a few minutes walk away. If you need a few quid I'll pay for your ticket, you skintflint
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 10:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 05, 2023, 07:46:33 PMThe "double header" on Saturday is two different payments for the games, with the probability the two games will be in different pitches, quite clearly they only care about the money...

You really haven't a clue... it's hammering down with rain at the minute, so for starters it's a no brainier to have the games separately, and the county's broke as it is so getting two gates is completely the right idea..

Anyone with half a brain cell would know that.

Both pitches are a few minutes walk away. If you need a few quid I'll pay for your ticket, you skintflint

You really don't have a clue...

Anyone with half a brain cell and can actually read can see I said SATURDAY the actual double header, Sunday is not a double header. Now go think of what you can say, to stick up for your bum chums...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 10:58:21 PM
My bad, but the point stands, paying into games generates money, money used to pay for things that are required..

If the weather continues then, as I was told earlier today by a Ballymena man, the minor b will be played on the other pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 05, 2023, 11:02:01 PM
There are no tickets onsale for the u17B final on the county website. Are you sure a ticket is needed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 06, 2023, 08:25:37 AM
You'll get 3/1 for Dunloy this weekend. Could they produce the biggest upset in Antrim in a long time? Should be interesting at very least, but I just can't see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 06, 2023, 08:48:09 AM
"Hope does spring eternal' CK....and those who suggest upset are in such mode, not citing cause for such.

As you say let them pay visit to Tom Toal or other such establishments to be suitably rewarded....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb on October 06, 2023, 09:03:32 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 06, 2023, 08:48:09 AM"Hope does spring eternal' CK....and those who suggest upset are in such mode, not citing cause for such.

As you say let them pay visit to Tom Toal or other such establishments to be suitably rewarded....

Be great to see Dunloy win
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 06, 2023, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 05, 2023, 11:02:01 PMThere are no tickets onsale for the u17B final on the county website. Are you sure a ticket is needed?

They have maybe caught themselves on, there was tickets up as i went on and checked myself because i saw the SV lads mention it on twitter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2023, 09:32:10 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 03, 2023, 02:58:37 PMDouble headers are fantastic. Granted the rain expected probably puts the thought to bed. Im sure if either Cargin or Dunloy were in the final it would happen. The IFC is a double header on Saturday with the minor B as All Saints are involved in both

Two pitches at that venue though so even with the adverse rain one pitch will not be getting tramped before the adult final is played on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 06, 2023, 11:16:16 AM
As for predictions.

Senior - Cargin.  Dunloy are very dangerous with space to run into but I don't think Cargin will allow this to happen and will be interested to see if or how quickly the referee produces cards for cynical fouling.  But beyond that Cargin have more depth to come through ok.

Intermediate - Glenravel.  Possibly the hardest of the three games to predict and could also be the hardest watch given Bakers love for the blanket defence.  But Glenravel came out on top in last years championship meeting and this years decisive league encounter so I think they have what it takes to beat the blanket.

Junior - Rasharkin.  O'Ds have been clear second best at Junior/Div 3 this year though they did record a win at Dreen. However Rasharkin were coasting to the title at that stage and was more a blip than a pointer for this one.  Rasharkin will not have it all their own way as O'Ds do have some solid performers but I expect a comfortable enough final outcome.

Caveat - all are championship finals so still an element of how teams arrive on the day and how quickly they settle into it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 06, 2023, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: ck on October 06, 2023, 08:25:37 AMYou'll get 3/1 for Dunloy this weekend. Could they produce the biggest upset in Antrim in a long time? Should be interesting at very least, but I just can't see it.

Probably should be about 10/1. I think Cargin at a canter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2023, 08:54:51 PM
Tighter game than expected. I didn't see it but sounded an entertaining game at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 06, 2023, 09:21:08 PM
Sore one for O'Ds that. Thought they were the better side for the majority of that game but some how managed to lose it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2023, 10:34:45 PM
First part of a South West treble complete. Up the Culchies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 06, 2023, 10:34:52 PM
OD's left that one behind. Parts of the game they were excellent. Lots of fairly handy scoring chances missed. Goal chance first half was a big one. Think they were 8 2 up at that time and Rasharkin hit the net twice after that to level the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 07, 2023, 11:03:10 AM
Bradley v Cassidy, the battle of the under the counter mercenaries today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2023, 05:54:17 PM
Taxi for Baker?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 06:04:55 PM
Shocking bad game. Wasn't even a championship feel about it never mind it being a final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 07, 2023, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2023, 05:54:17 PMTaxi for Baker?

He would make Ballymena pay for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 07, 2023, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 06, 2023, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: ck on October 06, 2023, 08:25:37 AMYou'll get 3/1 for Dunloy this weekend. Could they produce the biggest upset in Antrim in a long time? Should be interesting at very least, but I just can't see it.

Probably should be about 10/1. I think Cargin at a canter.

I expect a Cargin win but it won't be at a canter
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 09:03:37 PM
Just to point out the touch of class from our county chairman getting the young glenravel lad to present the trophy today. Gets a lot of bad press on social media but the work he does and things like this goes unnoticed sometimes. People quick to slate him over things outside his control
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 09:17:38 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 07, 2023, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on October 07, 2023, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2023, 05:54:17 PMTaxi for Baker?

He would make Ballymena pay for it
What am I missing here?

I mean, I certainly oppose the mercenary manager culture and I'm baffled by the cognitive dissonance in relation to the undermining of the rules & ethos of the association.

Yet, it seems to me (I may be wrong) that certain individuals come under more scrutiny than others in relation to lifting money out of clubs for their managerial services. Baker being one of them. There are loads of these people that you would never see these comments about. Why is that?

Not too many clubs not paying out in some form to outside men
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on October 07, 2023, 09:19:47 PM
Baker would be at the top of his scale as they say
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2023, 09:51:46 PM
I reckon if Ballymena had of stuck with Scotchie Hagan theyd've been in div 1 now and an intermediate title under their belt.

PS - An outsider and not FOC but wouldn't have been as much.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2023, 09:51:46 PMI reckon if Ballymena had of stuck with Scotchie Hagan theyd've been in div 1 now and an intermediate title under their belt.

PS - An outsider and not FOC but wouldn't have been as much.

They have a good young team. Unlucky probably with injuries this year. Glenravel up and I can't see Dunloy or St Endas dropping to intermediate? Leaves intermediate fairly open for a team like Ballymena to take advantage of. Rumours Moneyglass are losing a lot of players to travel
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2023, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2023, 09:51:46 PMI reckon if Ballymena had of stuck with Scotchie Hagan theyd've been in div 1 now and an intermediate title under their belt.

PS - An outsider and not FOC but wouldn't have been as much.

They have a good young team. Unlucky probably with injuries this year. Glenravel up and I can't see Dunloy or St Endas dropping to intermediate? Leaves intermediate fairly open for a team like Ballymena to take advantage of. Rumours Moneyglass are losing a lot of players to travel

Yes Moneyglass rumours are true
Also heard that relegation is scrapped and Glenravel are making it a 14 team league.
Only hearsay mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 08, 2023, 08:52:44 AM
To save St Endas? Can't see that happening
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 08, 2023, 12:48:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 06:04:55 PMShocking bad game. Wasn't even a championship feel about it never mind it being a final

How come? Lack of intensity?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2023, 03:22:31 PM
6-5 cargin half time score. Johnston scores a goal again. Seems tight enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 08, 2023, 04:34:34 PM
Cargin just more accomplished and wore Dunloy down, McCann & Shivers made a big difference coming in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 04:50:15 PM
Firstly congrats to Cargin.A very experienced team. Tomas is a goat and Mick is a rolls Royce. Conhuir J is the next big thing and needs to be nurtured, but alot has to be said for officiating decisions. Dunloy should of had a penalty and another cargin man should have seen red.
The bigger picture is this type of officiating does not help Antrim game on a club level or on a county level.

Miltownrow might cry and say why don't you take the whistle but the stone cold truth is the quality of reffing and decisions need to improve if our county is to improve on the big stage.
But who am I? Only one man's opinion, or is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 08, 2023, 04:52:46 PM
Cargin with a champions performance. Well done to them. Mccann & shivers brilliant when introduced. They have some panel. Hopefully they can get a run in Ulster. Anyone know who they get?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 08, 2023, 05:08:33 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 08, 2023, 04:52:46 PMCargin with a champions performance. Well done to them. Mccann & shivers brilliant when introduced. They have some panel. Hopefully they can get a run in Ulster. Anyone know who they get?

Derry champs in Celtic Park 12th November
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 08, 2023, 05:55:26 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 04:50:15 PMFirstly congrats to Cargin.A very experienced team. Tomas is a goat and Mick is a rolls Royce. Conhuir J is the next big thing and needs to be nurtured, but alot has to be said for officiating decisions. Dunloy should of had a penalty and another cargin man should have seen red.
The bigger picture is this type of officiating does not help Antrim game on a club level or on a county level.

Miltownrow might cry and say why don't you take the whistle but the stone cold truth is the quality of reffing and decisions need to improve if our county is to improve on the big stage.
But who am I? Only one man's opinion, or is it?


Playing against 14 men for 2/3rd of the match, 9 mins overtime and a 6 point defeat and you're blaming the referee?  Good lord
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 08, 2023, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 04:50:15 PMFirstly congrats to Cargin.A very experienced team. Tomas is a goat and Mick is a rolls Royce. Conhuir J is the next big thing and needs to be nurtured, but alot has to be said for officiating decisions. Dunloy should of had a penalty and another cargin man should have seen red.
The bigger picture is this type of officiating does not help Antrim game on a club level or on a county level.

Miltownrow might cry and say why don't you take the whistle but the stone cold truth is the quality of reffing and decisions need to improve if our county is to improve on the big stage.
But who am I? Only one man's opinion, or is it?
The quality of refereeing is holding our county back? A stone cold truth? Give your head a wobble.
People complain about referees in every county in Ireland. People complain about referees at county level.
We literally offer every excuse under the sun for our county being shite.
Give your own head a wobble.
Not taking away from cargins poweress. They where impressive in patches but that sort of referring won't do them an ounce of favour against glen or whomever may win the Derry championship.
But sure if you didn't see poor officiating today your wearing rose tinted glasses 🙄
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 08, 2023, 06:17:24 PM
Well I watched Fintan McCotter yesterday and I tell your what - he's on of the best in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 06:37:19 PM
I can understand the disappointment maverick but I'd say most players managers would have been happy with that appointment and if you are going to say that these calls decided the game then you are on the sauce!

The losing team generally complain about the officials. Having managed for many years I generally look at myself and the players and say how could I have done better after the game..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 08, 2023, 06:50:19 PM
The referee today did not impact on the outcome of the match, just as it should be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:10:45 PM
No sauce here MR2. Cargin lynchpins in their own regard and have been in Antrim for a good few years.
I have up most respect for both sides. My gripe is the decisions that were made or rather ignored could have impacted on game, but that will forever remain to be seen. Funny how I never mentioned that but others on here jumped to that fore gone conclusion.
Not saying every ref in Antrim is poor nor am I saying the said ref today is a bad one. Just feel he could have made better decisions. But like I said that's my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 08, 2023, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 08, 2023, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 04:50:15 PMFirstly congrats to Cargin.A very experienced team. Tomas is a goat and Mick is a rolls Royce. Conhuir J is the next big thing and needs to be nurtured, but alot has to be said for officiating decisions. Dunloy should of had a penalty and another cargin man should have seen red.
The bigger picture is this type of officiating does not help Antrim game on a club level or on a county level.

Miltownrow might cry and say why don't you take the whistle but the stone cold truth is the quality of reffing and decisions need to improve if our county is to improve on the big stage.
But who am I? Only one man's opinion, or is it?
The quality of refereeing is holding our county back? A stone cold truth? Give your head a wobble.
People complain about referees in every county in Ireland. People complain about referees at county level.
We literally offer every excuse under the sun for our county being shite.
Give your own head a wobble.
Not taking away from cargins poweress. They where impressive in patches but that sort of referring won't do them an ounce of favour against glen or whomever may win the Derry championship.
But sure if you didn't see poor officiating today your wearing rose tinted glasses 🙄

I don't have any tinted glasses on. Maybe that's the problem.
I'm just baffled that you think that the standard of refereeing (even if it is horrendous) is a factor in the poor standard of football that has existed in our county for 50 years. Referees are the scapegoat for many things but this is definitely a new one.
It plays a factor. But baffle away if that's what helps you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 08, 2023, 07:28:25 PM
The best team (by a considerable distance) in Antrim won the championship. Colm refereed it well and Dunloy gave it a rattle,
That's all I have to say on it  :D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:10:45 PMNo sauce here MR2. Cargin lynchpins in their own regard and have been in Antrim for a good few years.
I have up most respect for both sides. My gripe is the decisions that were made or rather ignored could have impacted on game, but that will forever remain to be seen. Funny how I never mentioned that but others on here jumped to that fore gone conclusion.
Not saying every ref in Antrim is poor nor am I saying the said ref today is a bad one. Just feel he could have made better decisions. But like I said that's my opinion.

Put it this way, in my view there would be 3 top refs, and Colm is one of them.

Watching from the comfort of my sofa the foot block was not called as he'd blown his whistle and brought play back, as for not red carding James I felt that was fine as he retaliated to being shoved himself. Two boys at it, I'm fine with that.

If that's the two things in your view he got wrong then I understand but he's made that call,  no doubt another ref might have done differently, another ref would have done something else..

When watching the game did you count the amount of ball's dropped into square? Shot selections? Missed tackles? Like I said earlier, how could I have done better?

Dunloy's age means they'll certainly get another crack at it with group. And hopefully one day get over the line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:10:45 PMNo sauce here MR2. Cargin lynchpins in their own regard and have been in Antrim for a good few years.
I have up most respect for both sides. My gripe is the decisions that were made or rather ignored could have impacted on game, but that will forever remain to be seen. Funny how I never mentioned that but others on here jumped to that fore gone conclusion.
Not saying every ref in Antrim is poor nor am I saying the said ref today is a bad one. Just feel he could have made better decisions. But like I said that's my opinion.

Put it this way, in my view there would be 3 top refs, and Colm is one of them.

Watching from the comfort of my sofa the foot block was not called as he'd blown his whistle and brought play back, as for not red carding James I felt that was fine as he retaliated to being shoved himself. Two boys at it, I'm fine with that.

If that's the two things in your view he got wrong then I understand but he's made that call,  no doubt another ref might have done differently, another ref would have done something else..

When watching the game did you count the amount of ball's dropped into square? Shot selections? Missed tackles? Like I said earlier, how could I have done better?

Dunloy's age means they'll certainly get another crack at it with group. And hopefully one day get over the line.
Agree with the shot selection from dunloy been poor at times.
James might have walked on a different day. Some frees might not have been given. The penalty might have been awareded.
These small things make a big difference.
Like I said collie isn't a bad ref just felt decisions could have been better.
That not a fair enough opinion ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 08:04:42 PM
Yeah other days some decisions go your way.

The actual red card was a WTF moment hopefully he'll learn from that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on October 08, 2023, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:10:45 PMNo sauce here MR2. Cargin lynchpins in their own regard and have been in Antrim for a good few years.
I have up most respect for both sides. My gripe is the decisions that were made or rather ignored could have impacted on game, but that will forever remain to be seen. Funny how I never mentioned that but others on here jumped to that fore gone conclusion.
Not saying every ref in Antrim is poor nor am I saying the said ref today is a bad one. Just feel he could have made better decisions. But like I said that's my opinion.

Put it this way, in my view there would be 3 top refs, and Colm is one of them.

Watching from the comfort of my sofa the foot block was not called as he'd blown his whistle and brought play back, as for not red carding James I felt that was fine as he retaliated to being shoved himself. Two boys at it, I'm fine with that.

If that's the two things in your view he got wrong then I understand but he's made that call,  no doubt another ref might have done differently, another ref would have done something else..

When watching the game did you count the amount of ball's dropped into square? Shot selections? Missed tackles? Like I said earlier, how could I have done better?

Dunloy's age means they'll certainly get another crack at it with group. And hopefully one day get over the line.
Agree with the shot selection from dunloy been poor at times.
James might have walked on a different day. Some frees might not have been given. The penalty might have been awareded.
These small things make a big difference.
Like I said collie isn't a bad ref just felt decisions could have been better.
That not a fair enough opinion ?

We all see things differently depending on what side we are on...
If I'm right the occasion you are referring to when James should of had action taken by the ref ,just before that play the Dunloy player through his fist back in the tackle and missed, then through him elbow back and hit James ,the ref took no action for this!
Also Mick was stamped on while on the ground, also no action from the ref!

We all have blinkers at times.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 08, 2023, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on October 08, 2023, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 07:10:45 PMNo sauce here MR2. Cargin lynchpins in their own regard and have been in Antrim for a good few years.
I have up most respect for both sides. My gripe is the decisions that were made or rather ignored could have impacted on game, but that will forever remain to be seen. Funny how I never mentioned that but others on here jumped to that fore gone conclusion.
Not saying every ref in Antrim is poor nor am I saying the said ref today is a bad one. Just feel he could have made better decisions. But like I said that's my opinion.

Put it this way, in my view there would be 3 top refs, and Colm is one of them.

Watching from the comfort of my sofa the foot block was not called as he'd blown his whistle and brought play back, as for not red carding James I felt that was fine as he retaliated to being shoved himself. Two boys at it, I'm fine with that.

If that's the two things in your view he got wrong then I understand but he's made that call,  no doubt another ref might have done differently, another ref would have done something else..

When watching the game did you count the amount of ball's dropped into square? Shot selections? Missed tackles? Like I said earlier, how could I have done better?

Dunloy's age means they'll certainly get another crack at it with group. And hopefully one day get over the line.
Agree with the shot selection from dunloy been poor at times.
James might have walked on a different day. Some frees might not have been given. The penalty might have been awareded.
These small things make a big difference.
Like I said collie isn't a bad ref just felt decisions could have been better.
That not a fair enough opinion ?

We all see things differently depending on what side we are on...
If I'm right the occasion you are referring to when James should of had action taken by the ref ,just before that play the Dunloy player through his fist back in the tackle and missed, then through him elbow back and hit James ,the ref took no action for this!
Also Mick was stamped on while on the ground, also no action from the ref!

We all have blinkers at times.




Wasn't there a yellow card for the 'stamp'? Hardly no action
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Marevick on October 08, 2023, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2023, 08:04:42 PMYeah other days some decisions go your way.

The actual red card was a WTF moment hopefully he'll learn from that
Young and very talented baller. I'm sure he will learn from it.
Yes I agree people see things differently erinsboy.
Congrats and enjoy the celebrations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 08, 2023, 09:09:27 PM
Congrats to EOC. Worthy champions. What struck me today is the blend of old and new in a team that many of us, myself included, had said were coming to the end. They have been revived and sustained by a new batch of kids who look set to carry the baton on for a few more years, if they want to.

Hope they give Ulster a rattle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 08, 2023, 09:11:36 PM
Congratulations Cargin, and Naomh Pol minor champions.  Best teams across the year senior and minor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2023, 09:56:37 PM
As I have said before, Cargin are the best team in the county without any doubt.
They have, by far the most talented squad in the county without transfers inwards and look likely to dominate for a while.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 08, 2023, 10:34:17 PM
As I have said before, Cargin are the best team in the county without any doubt.
They have, by far the most talented squad without transfers and look likely to dominate for a while.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 12:16:03 AM
Pretty sure I read somewhere that Benan Kelly played for Moneyglass?


Quote from: country bumpkin on October 08, 2023, 10:34:17 PMAs I have said before, Cargin are the best team in the county without any doubt.
They have, by far the most talented squad without transfers and look likely to dominate for a while.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2023, 07:50:54 AM
Hard to see cargin caught for a while. The quality they have coming through is too good at the minute. Best by a long way as others have said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 09, 2023, 08:28:37 AM
No one disputing Cargin are still the kingpins of Antrim and well done on lifting yet another McNamee.

The mix they have between youth and experience is creating new synergies within the squad, the baton being passed over gradually as opposed to all at once.

Good luck in Ulster, definitely much fresher than this time last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 08:48:01 AM
And if you coax him from a rival local club when he's still young it doesn't count.


Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 12:16:03 AMPretty sure I read somewhere that Benan Kelly played for Moneyglass?


Quote from: country bumpkin on October 08, 2023, 10:34:17 PMAs I have said before, Cargin are the best team in the county without any doubt.
They have, by far the most talented squad without transfers and look likely to dominate for a while.




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 09:03:47 AM
That is your 4th or 5th post out of 13 commenting on where different Cargin players came from Belsaft, catch a grip of yourself, and give some respect to the best team in Antrim. Jealousy is awful affliction ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AM
No jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 09, 2023, 09:12:41 AM
Firstly overall I thought Collie had a good game overall yesterday got most of the major calls correct, however I am not sure about the call for not giving the foot block near the end.......

On another point is Corrigan really the best place for our finals, terrible access for 2 SW teams coming over that Westlink, awful parking arrangements not to mention the condition of the goal mouths, it is clear the bottom goal mouth was not fit for play and was effecting players footing, just look how poor young Quinn slipped and went into the Dunloy keeper  ;), in all seriousness however Ahoghill is even better imo 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:24:09 AM
Maybe MR2 could clear up the ruling on the advantage for us?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2023, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:24:09 AMMaybe MR2 could clear up the ruling on the advantage for us?

Like I said earlier if there was 3 different ref's watching that they'd give three different calls

Advantage is 5 seconds, should there be another foul within the 5 seconds then you can take it from the better position, I think on this occasion Colm has blown his whistle to bring it back to the advantage before the foot block

A split second wait and he may have given the penalty for the foot block, I'd need to see it again, during the commotion at the end I didn't see a replay

Had a penalty been given I'm not sure how much of a difference it would have made to the game, I don't think Cargin would have complained too much had it been given either

Colm knows the rules better than me lol, so his reasoning would be better
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:55:10 AM
If 3 different refs give 3 different calls then 2 of them don't know the rules?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 09, 2023, 10:21:35 AM
a lot of chat here about Colm in a match that didn't feel that controversial. deserved red card, young lad can have no complaints. No one likes getting beat but dunloy are clutching at straws about a potential foot block when it was obvious colm had made a decision. Cargin complaining about only a yellow for the Stamp and constant jersey pulling in the tackles throughout. 
Colm cant please everyone. 

The longer the game went on without Dunloy putting up scores the more Dunloy had to push up which left more space for Cargin at the other end.   Apart from a couple of breakaway moments it never felt as though Cargin were a man down and they always looked as if they had a goal in them, even missed a few chances. 

Dunloy have some serious pace in that side and they bring a freshness to the game as opposed to 15 men behind a ball tactics deployed by many this year.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2023, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:55:10 AMIf 3 different refs give 3 different calls then 2 of them don't know the rules?

Do you go to many games? How many times do you hear someone from behind the fence calling for a free? And if the 'free' isn't given the ref doesn't know the rules, your interpretation and theirs will vary depending on how you see it.

I gave an honest answer and one I've seen many times over the years during the in house training at the start of the year. When watching many examples of games when calls are made its opened to the floor to give what they think happened and how it should have been dealt with. People will have a view on what they would give, and its not always the 'right' call
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 10:45:07 AM
I do. I was at Corrigan yesterday and just for the record I thought Colm had an excellent game. All I was asking is what is the actual ruling? Can the advantage continue after 5 seconds and then a 'new' free be given? Would it be worth the referee shouting advantage over like in rugby for clarity? Then if a free is given in a more advantageous position there wouldn't be all the confusion? I appreciate some fouls are down to referees interpretation but sometimes the rules are just the rules and they should be followed?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sonny Joe on October 09, 2023, 10:50:12 AM
I see a number of refs counting backwards out loud when they give advantage signal i.e. 5-4-3-2-1 and then award the free or play on if the advantage helps the opposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 09, 2023, 10:54:01 AM
I was in the Athletic Grounds on Saturday night for the Lurgan derby game and witnessed the worst refereeing performance I have ever seen. He was terrible for both teams but definitely favoured Clans over Clann Eireann. Maybe Antrim's refs aren't that bad afterall!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ClubScene13 on October 09, 2023, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on October 08, 2023, 04:52:46 PMCargin with a champions performance. Well done to them. Mccann & shivers brilliant when introduced. They have some panel. Hopefully they can get a run in Ulster. Anyone know who they get?

Glen. Big fish in a small pond?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 09, 2023, 11:47:58 AM
On a side note, thought the match programme was a very good production for yesterday's match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2023, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on October 09, 2023, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: geezer on October 08, 2023, 04:52:46 PMCargin with a champions performance. Well done to them. Mccann & shivers brilliant when introduced. They have some panel. Hopefully they can get a run in Ulster. Anyone know who they get?

Glen. Big fish in a small pond?

you could be right, but maybe being a wee bit disrespectful to Slaughtneil, Magherafelt and Newbridge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:08:23 PM
I dont think it was a straight red. Defo a second yellow yes, but to give him a straight red which means he will miss the ulster champ game? Id say he will get it overturned
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2023, 02:10:52 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:08:23 PMI dont think it was a straight red. Defo a second yellow yes, but to give him a straight red which means he will miss the ulster champ game? Id say he will get it overturned

as clear a red as there has been all year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:16:17 PM
he tried pulling out, the ball was in the air and he went for it and half pulled out mid air. Stupid to do it but still dont think its a straight red
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 02:31:36 PM
They could win another 5 or 6 championships in a row. Who's going to compete with them? I did say 'possibly'.

Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2023, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:16:17 PMhe tried pulling out, the ball was in the air and he went for it and half pulled out mid air. Stupid to do it but still dont think its a straight red


Ball was in the keepers arms before he jumped off the ground. it was spur of the moment and it looked like he knew straight away and regretted it. I thought the same as you when i saw it, but when i saw it again it didnt look good.
not nice getting a red in a county final but i think ref got it right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 09, 2023, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:08:23 PMI dont think it was a straight red. Defo a second yellow yes, but to give him a straight red which means he will miss the ulster champ game? Id say he will get it overturned

Is the red not applicable to the first round of Antrim next year. Red cards are one game in the same competition.

Ulster will be a different competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2023, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 09, 2023, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:08:23 PMI dont think it was a straight red. Defo a second yellow yes, but to give him a straight red which means he will miss the ulster champ game? Id say he will get it overturned

Is the red not applicable to the first round of Antrim next year. Red cards are one game in the same competition.

Ulster will be a different competition.

I'd say that's true.

He was gone either way after that, just a rush of blood to the head and bingo!!

You'd need  seriously green tinted glasses to say any different lol!

Big Pat will be back filling that role and RD has another selection problem for the first round in Ulster.

Be interesting to see how Cargin approach this game, will it be damaged limitations or go for the jugular
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
St galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: podge on October 09, 2023, 09:00:46 PM
As a matter of interest, how many players from this and recent Cargin teams would have had their college football in the south Derry schools?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 08:56:05 AM
The Cream always rises to the top...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2023, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: podge on October 09, 2023, 09:00:46 PMAs a matter of interest, how many players from this and recent Cargin teams would have had their college football in the south Derry schools?

Ronan Gribbin is a former Malachian, product of St Malachys on the Antrim road Belfast.

A big majority or in fact all of the rest of the panel attended St Pats Maghera, St Pius X or St Mary's both Magherafelt.

As for making comparison with St Galls of course the Milltown men were a super side but unlike the Toome men they were assembled from players across the province,whereas Cargin are 'home grown' through out...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on October 10, 2023, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on October 09, 2023, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:08:23 PMI dont think it was a straight red. Defo a second yellow yes, but to give him a straight red which means he will miss the ulster champ game? Id say he will get it overturned

Is the red not applicable to the first round of Antrim next year. Red cards are one game in the same competition.

Ulster will be a different competition.

The red card will apply to Ulster Championship , as it is deemed an extension of the Antrim Championship !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2023, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 10, 2023, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: podge on October 09, 2023, 09:00:46 PMAs a matter of interest, how many players from this and recent Cargin teams would have had their college football in the south Derry schools?

Ronan Gribbin is a former Malachian, product of St Malachys on the Antrim road Belfast.

A big majority or in fact all of the rest of the panel attended St Pats Maghera, St Pius X or St Mary's both Magherafelt.

As for making comparison with St Galls of course the Milltown men were a super side but unlike the Toome men they were assembled from players across the province,whereas Cargin are 'home grown' through out...

When people migrate to the big smoke they should just stop playing! Christ, its still sore after all these years of dominance  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 10, 2023, 10:02:17 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
St galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 

Monday Club must still be going, I wouldn't have thought Cargin are streets ahead at this stage.

Point of fact is the standard is pretty poor around them and they are dominating in an era where the competition is low. Not that this will bother Cargin too much as they rake in the titles, but don't then try to dress it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 10, 2023, 10:02:17 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
St galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 

Monday Club must still be going, I wouldn't have thought Cargin are streets ahead at this stage.

Point of fact is the standard is pretty poor around them and they are dominating in an era where the competition is low. Not that this will bother Cargin too much as they rake in the titles, but don't then try to dress it up.

7/9 Titles is streets ahead, at what stage was the Antrim club scene strong?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2023, 10:16:16 AM
Ah Cargin are miles ahead of everyone else let's be honest. I still think Creggan should have beat them last year but then the reverse could be argued from the previous year. They have the best players about by a good bit and the age demographic is better. The underage landscape has changed to the likes of St Brigids and now even St Pauls winning but both are a good bit away from transitioning this into senior championship challenging teams.

At the minute as it appears Creggan have dropped off I don't really see them having a significant challenger (no offense to the rest).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2023, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 10, 2023, 10:02:17 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
St galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 

Monday Club must still be going, I wouldn't have thought Cargin are streets ahead at this stage.

Point of fact is the standard is pretty poor around them and they are dominating in an era where the competition is low. Not that this will bother Cargin too much as they rake in the titles, but don't then try to dress it up.

7/9 Titles is streets ahead, at what stage was the Antrim club scene strong?

Multiple Ulster final appearances and Club finals at Croke would suggest Antrim football at club level was pretty strong at some stage?, with a Cargin side pushing Naomh Gall most of those years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2023, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 10, 2023, 10:02:17 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on October 09, 2023, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 09, 2023, 09:12:28 AMNo jealousy. I was just correcting Country Bumpkin - maybe he didn't know just.  There is no denying it. Cargin are the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA. And it doesn't look like anyone is going to compete with them in the next 7 or 8 years given the younger talent coming through and learning the tricks of the trade from the more experienced lads. CJ is a sight to behold in all honesty. Big Pat had a serious say in the result when introduced also, and hes still only a lad. Sean O'Neill, Gribben, Eunan Quinn etc all only lads. Good luck in Ulster  ;D
To consider Cargin as "the most complete team possibly in the history of Antrim GAA" is laughable.  They've won 1 Ulster Championship game...
St galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 

Monday Club must still be going, I wouldn't have thought Cargin are streets ahead at this stage.

Point of fact is the standard is pretty poor around them and they are dominating in an era where the competition is low. Not that this will bother Cargin too much as they rake in the titles, but don't then try to dress it up.

7/9 Titles is streets ahead, at what stage was the Antrim club scene strong?

Multiple Ulster final appearances and Club finals at Croke would suggest Antrim football at club level was pretty strong at some stage?, with a Cargin side pushing Naomh Gall most of those years

Greatest side in Antrim history, during that stage as you said there was only 2 teams competing. I'm not saying the standard is poor I'm pointing to the fact during this period there was only 2 teams pretty similar to today. So I'm asking him when exactly he refers to the club scene in Antrim being strong?   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on October 10, 2023, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 09, 2023, 06:40:13 PMSt galls won an All Ireland Club, they are the best team in Antrims history.
You call yourself Antrim Realist, At the minute, Cargin are streets ahead of anything else in Antrim, what about a bit of respect for that, never mind what they do in Ulster. 
Thanks for making my point for me.  Regardless of how many club titles Cargin win, they won't be worthy of mention in the same breath as the St Galls Team until they win an Ulster title, never mind an All Ireland.  I have the utmost respect / envy for any team that wins a SFC - fair play to them but to suggest they are anywhere close to being the best team to come out of Antrim is a bit far-fetched.  Now relax yourself and enjoy the celebrations :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 10, 2023, 10:57:59 AM
Lotta little green men prompting some of these texts...

Facts are Cargin are well ahead of the pack in Antrim

Seven senior titles in nine years as well as a couple of under-18s and the ability to bring those sides onwards to senior level ensures they will remain strong...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 11:08:27 AM
On another note, if im McEntee at the game on Sunday im walking away thinking i need to build my team around Conhuir Johnstone, 2 goals and MOTM in your first senior final at 18 is completely ridiculous and the best prospect Antrim football has saw in quite some time. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 10, 2023, 12:06:14 PM
Can Dunloy kick on and continue to be competitive around the Antrim championship? Good age amongst the group. Can see them doing well again next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 10, 2023, 12:06:14 PMCan Dunloy kick on and continue to be competitive around the Antrim championship? Good age amongst the group. Can see them doing well again next year.

They could if the focused on it, however losing out in the hurling this year i think that's where the main focus will be next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 10, 2023, 02:06:58 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 10, 2023, 12:06:14 PMCan Dunloy kick on and continue to be competitive around the Antrim championship? Good age amongst the group. Can see them doing well again next year.

Which championship will Dunloy be playing in next year?

Do they get to opt to play senior, even though they play in Div 3?

I can't remember that happening before so have no idea what the answer is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 10, 2023, 02:15:08 PM
Can't see dunloy dropping down. They probably have the players to win division 3 minus the county hurlers and the buzz about the club football scene after that run will push them on next year. Dropping and winning intermediate again would be pointless.

Would St Endas consider dropping?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 10, 2023, 02:51:27 PM
St Endas are a div 2 team with the players they have missing. i would expect them to play in the intermediate championship the new manager would want to get his hands on a bit of silverware to im sure !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 10, 2023, 03:20:26 PM
Dunloy are a good side when full out and it was refreshing to watch them this year but how can you play in the senior championship from Division 3, madness if it happens.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 10, 2023, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2023, 03:20:26 PMDunloy are a good side when full out and it was refreshing to watch them this year but how can you play in the senior championship from Division 3, madness if it happens.

I would imagine that's a decision for them.

More the point, that they played in a Senior final ahead of all the dedicated Div 1 football clubs, would be the wider and more worrying point for anyone in Antrim football in general.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 10, 2023, 04:09:44 PM
Can Mick McCann now be declared as the greatest Antrim footballer ever?

Who else is in the conversation. Rank your top 5

Mick McCann
Paddy Cunningham
Kevin Niblock
Sean Kelly
Anto Finnegan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on October 10, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 10, 2023, 04:09:44 PMCan Mick McCann now be declared as the greatest Antrim footballer ever?

Who else is in the conversation. Rank your top 5

Mick McCann
Paddy Cunningham
Kevin Niblock
Sean Kelly
Anto Finnegan
Kevin Brady/Madden?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 10, 2023, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 10, 2023, 04:09:44 PMCan Mick McCann now be declared as the greatest Antrim footballer ever?

Who else is in the conversation. Rank your top 5

Mick McCann
Paddy Cunningham
Kevin Niblock
Sean Kelly
Anto Finnegan

Tomas...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 10, 2023, 04:24:08 PM
Tomas in there too.

James Loughry
Sean McGreevy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 10, 2023, 04:36:35 PM
Going by the team photo from Sunday Dunloy have 33 footballers. Six involved with county hurling. Why can they not produce a stronger league team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blasmere on October 10, 2023, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 10, 2023, 04:09:44 PMCan Mick McCann now be declared as the greatest Antrim footballer ever?

Who else is in the conversation. Rank your top 5

Mick McCann
Paddy Cunningham
Kevin Niblock
Sean Kelly
Anto Finnegan

What about the last century?
Kevin Armstrong
Andy McCallin
& there will be others
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 10, 2023, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 10, 2023, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 10, 2023, 03:20:26 PMDunloy are a good side when full out and it was refreshing to watch them this year but how can you play in the senior championship from Division 3, madness if it happens.

I would imagine that's a decision for them.

More the point, that they played in a Senior final ahead of all the dedicated Div 1 football clubs, would be the wider and more worrying point for anyone in Antrim football in general.

15 men behind a ball tactics deployed by a number of so called top teams is perhaps covering a multitude of issues.  I wonder if McEntee will ask any of the Dunloy players up next year? Smyth looks a potential.  Now that i am looking at it, there is a curious case of a lack of Antrim county representation on Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 10, 2023, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: 1884 on October 08, 2023, 12:45:58 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2023, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 07, 2023, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 07, 2023, 09:51:46 PMI reckon if Ballymena had of stuck with Scotchie Hagan theyd've been in div 1 now and an intermediate title under their belt.

PS - An outsider and not FOC but wouldn't have been as much.

They have a good young team. Unlucky probably with injuries this year. Glenravel up and I can't see Dunloy or St Endas dropping to intermediate? Leaves intermediate fairly open for a team like Ballymena to take advantage of. Rumours Moneyglass are losing a lot of players to travel

Yes Moneyglass rumours are true
Also heard that relegation is scrapped and Glenravel are making it a 14 team league.
Only hearsay mind you.

More chat along the lines of 4 divisions of 8 rather than 14 team div 1

Haha, here we go again.

I think there is and has been a lot of dead wood in division 1 since around or before the Covid nonsense and the associated lack of relegation.

If they want to sort it out do it next year and make a league after the split containing the top 4 in Div 2 and the bottom 4 in Div 1 and decide how many stay in Div 1 from that mini league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 10, 2023, 07:09:23 PM
As for Cargin, they have been comfortably on top in Antrim for a long time now and hard to see who is going to stop them winning more titles, even if they don't manage it every year.

But they genuinely need to start making inroads in Ulster to be considered elite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 10, 2023, 07:26:06 PM
Cargin without doubt the best team of the modern era.

St. Galls without doubt the best Antrim club team of all time.

No comparison.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 10, 2023, 08:53:41 PM
St galls are the best club side to play in antrim but largely hollow due to the postcode lottery they employed for personnel.  Cargin finished them in 2016 and every club in antrim should be thankful as the blow ins started considering the likes of bredagh, st bridget's and Carryduff as alternatives. Now a number of clubs believe they have a chance of a title. 

  The '82 st galls team should have been the club's heroes but now they are left with an empty shadow of a side that couldn't get out of the group stages this year.  Every club has blow ins but if you have too many then they desert the sinking ship quite quickly.

What Cargin and Dunloy have achieved with limited resources and playing numbers is infinitely more impressive. Just my opinion of course. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 10, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
Out of interest, how many outsiders did Galls have when they won the all Ireland. 2 gallaghers & pollock come to mind. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2023, 11:18:57 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 10, 2023, 09:53:02 PMOut of interest, how many outsiders did Galls have when they won the all Ireland. 2 gallaghers & pollock come to mind. Anyone else?

Pollock wasn't on that team
Quote from: Spike on October 10, 2023, 08:53:41 PMSt galls are the best club side to play in antrim but largely hollow due to the postcode lottery they employed for personnel.  Cargin finished them in 2016 and every club in antrim should be thankful as the blow ins started considering the likes of bredagh, st bridget's and Carryduff as alternatives. Now a number of clubs believe they have a chance of a title. 

  The '82 st galls team should have been the club's heroes but now they are left with an empty shadow of a side that couldn't get out of the group stages this year.  Every club has blow ins but if you have too many then they desert the sinking ship quite quickly.

What Cargin and Dunloy have achieved with limited resources and playing numbers is infinitely more impressive. Just my opinion of course. 

The shit is dripping off this post  ;D

if you'd any knowledge of the 82 and 83 team that reached the finals then you'd not be writing that post,

Also you mentioned Dunloy, any blow ins on that team? And the Cargin teams, no blow ins either?

Go to bed lad and stop making a fool of yourself
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 11, 2023, 12:04:32 AM
Fair enough. Any others on that team MR2?

Cargin have never had a blow in, ever. Especially not any from Randalstown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2023, 04:13:18 AM
Quote from: geezer on October 11, 2023, 12:04:32 AMFair enough. Any others on that team MR2?

Cargin have never had a blow in, ever. Especially not any from Randalstown.

You conveniently left out the part where I said every club has blow ins. Tut tut
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 11, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
Good sign for Cargin when the only dig people can muster up is comparisons with St Galls great team.
This board is on repeat every October 7 out of the last 9 years.
In the last 25 years, St Galls 13 Antrim titles, Cargin 10, Lamh Dhearg 1, Creggan 1.
It took St Galls a few years to make the breakthrough in Ulster and if it doesn't happen for us we'll just have to keep trying  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 10, 2023, 08:53:41 PMSt galls are the best club side to play in antrim but largely hollow due to the postcode lottery they employed for personnel.  Cargin finished them in 2016 and every club in antrim should be thankful as the blow ins started considering the likes of bredagh, st bridget's and Carryduff as alternatives. Now a number of clubs believe they have a chance of a title. 

  The '82 st galls team should have been the club's heroes but now they are left with an empty shadow of a side that couldn't get out of the group stages this year.  Every club has blow ins but if you have too many then they desert the sinking ship quite quickly.

What Cargin and Dunloy have achieved with limited resources and playing numbers is infinitely more impressive. Just my opinion of course. 

Are you aware that dunloy had three "blow ins"?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2023, 09:45:07 AM
Yes let's move on. Cup is in Toome for another year,  up to others to raise their own bar or it could be there a while.

Other clubs can ponder the ifs and buts, chances spurned, could haves and should haves, but Cargin are the template for getting over the line.

Put the work in at juvenile level, you get the rewards. Up to other clubs to match that endeavour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 10, 2023, 08:53:41 PMSt galls are the best club side to play in antrim but largely hollow due to the postcode lottery they employed for personnel.  Cargin finished them in 2016 and every club in antrim should be thankful as the blow ins started considering the likes of bredagh, st bridget's and Carryduff as alternatives. Now a number of clubs believe they have a chance of a title. 

  The '82 st galls team should have been the club's heroes but now they are left with an empty shadow of a side that couldn't get out of the group stages this year.  Every club has blow ins but if you have too many then they desert the sinking ship quite quickly.

What Cargin and Dunloy have achieved with limited resources and playing numbers is infinitely more impressive. Just my opinion of course. 

Are you aware that dunloy had three "blow ins"?

Spike hurts my head, if he'd only research before posting..

Yep Bannside that's whats required, will be some head scratching by the 'big' clubs this year on how a Div 3 team  ;)  dispatched all that came before them...

Now all roads lead to Owenbeg for the first round against whatever team comes outta Derry, hopefully another win which would open the door for a great run in the competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 11, 2023, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 10, 2023, 08:53:41 PMSt galls are the best club side to play in antrim but largely hollow due to the postcode lottery they employed for personnel.  Cargin finished them in 2016 and every club in antrim should be thankful as the blow ins started considering the likes of bredagh, st bridget's and Carryduff as alternatives. Now a number of clubs believe they have a chance of a title. 

  The '82 st galls team should have been the club's heroes but now they are left with an empty shadow of a side that couldn't get out of the group stages this year.  Every club has blow ins but if you have too many then they desert the sinking ship quite quickly.

What Cargin and Dunloy have achieved with limited resources and playing numbers is infinitely more impressive. Just my opinion of course. 

Are you aware that dunloy had three "blow ins"?

Spike hurts my head, if he'd only research before posting..

Yep Bannside that's whats required, will be some head scratching by the 'big' clubs this year on how a Div 3 team  ;)  dispatched all that came before them...

Now all roads lead to Owenbeg for the first round against whatever team comes outta Derry, hopefully another win which would open the door for a great run in the competition

As far as i know youve a bit further to travel - its in Celtic Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 10:07:54 AM
Didn't realise, generally used Owenbeg over the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 11, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 11, 2023, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 10, 2023, 08:53:41 PMSt galls are the best club side to play in antrim but largely hollow due to the postcode lottery they employed for personnel.  Cargin finished them in 2016 and every club in antrim should be thankful as the blow ins started considering the likes of bredagh, st bridget's and Carryduff as alternatives. Now a number of clubs believe they have a chance of a title. 

  The '82 st galls team should have been the club's heroes but now they are left with an empty shadow of a side that couldn't get out of the group stages this year.  Every club has blow ins but if you have too many then they desert the sinking ship quite quickly.

What Cargin and Dunloy have achieved with limited resources and playing numbers is infinitely more impressive. Just my opinion of course. 

Are you aware that dunloy had three "blow ins"?

Spike hurts my head, if he'd only research before posting..

Yep Bannside that's whats required, will be some head scratching by the 'big' clubs this year on how a Div 3 team  ;)  dispatched all that came before them...

Now all roads lead to Owenbeg for the first round against whatever team comes outta Derry, hopefully another win which would open the door for a great run in the competition

As far as i know youve a bit further to travel - its in Celtic Park

Yes, another exhibition of forensic research given there by MR2.  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 11, 2023, 11:08:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 10:07:54 AMDidn't realise, generally used Owenbeg over the years

Bigger games go to Celtic Park, all county finals definately
Last years Glen Errigal first round Ulster game there aswell
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 11, 2023, 11:08:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 10:07:54 AMDidn't realise, generally used Owenbeg over the years

Its down on Ulster GAA as Celtic Park however, wouldn't be surprised if they used Owenbeg
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on October 11, 2023, 11:43:26 AM
Hypothetically, if these were the teams to win their respective county championship, where do you think Cargin would rank?

Cross
Glen
Kilcoo
Derrygonnely
Errigal
Gowna
Glenties
Scotstown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 11, 2023, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 11, 2023, 11:43:26 AMHypothetically, if these were the teams to win their respective county championship, where do you think Cargin would rank?

Cross
Glen
Kilcoo
Derrygonnely
Errigal
Gowna
Glenties
Scotstown

Going by Paddy Power they have it as below, obviously this takes the draw etc into account.
1. Glen
2. Kilcoo
3. Crossmaglen
4. Glenties
5. Errigal
6. Scotstown
7. Cargin
8. Gowna
9. Derrygonnelly

I think current rankings should be

1.Glen
2. Kilcoo
3. Errigal Ciaran
4. Derrygonnelly
5. Scotstown
6. Cargin
7. Crossmaglen
8. Glenties
9. Gowna

Should be a good competition
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 12:07:10 PM
All on the day.. certain things need to go your way in any game, taking the chances and making the most of being on top and how you react when under pressure
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 11, 2023, 03:15:41 PM
So the most open championship in years according to some on here and it's still cargin as champions!! some love in with Dunloys style on here as two weeks too yet when it came to it they pulled every man behind their own 45 within the first minute even
Guess the "experience" told in the end for an oul done Cargin team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 11, 2023, 03:15:41 PMSo the most open championship in years according to some on here and it's still cargin as champions!! some love in with Dunloys style on here as two weeks too yet when it came to it they pulled every man behind their own 45 within the first minute even
Guess the "experience" told in the end for an oul done Cargin team.

Still not sober  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on October 11, 2023, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 11, 2023, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: geezer on October 11, 2023, 11:43:26 AMHypothetically, if these were the teams to win their respective county championship, where do you think Cargin would rank?

Cross
Glen
Kilcoo
Derrygonnely
Errigal
Gowna
Glenties
Scotstown

Going by Paddy Power they have it as below, obviously this takes the draw etc into account.
1. Glen
2. Kilcoo
3. Crossmaglen
4. Glenties
5. Errigal
6. Scotstown
7. Cargin
8. Gowna
9. Derrygonnelly

I think current rankings should be

1.Glen
2. Kilcoo
3. Errigal Ciaran
4. Derrygonnelly
5. Scotstown
6. Cargin
7. Crossmaglen
8. Glenties
9. Gowna

Should be a good competition
Would rank Scotstown ahead of Derrygonnelly on a scoring power alone Carey, McCarron, McCarthy and Hughes(x2)would be hard talked too in relation to what Derrygonnelly have up top. 

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2023, 03:53:03 PM
I think Cargin would beat Derrygonnelly . Scotstown decent but the Hughes's are getting on a bit so unsure on them. I wouldn't be convinced they'll get out of monaghan. (They aren't out of it yet are they?)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on October 11, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 11, 2023, 03:15:41 PMSo the most open championship in years according to some on here and it's still cargin as champions!! some love in with Dunloys style on here as two weeks too yet when it came to it they pulled every man behind their own 45 within the first minute even
Guess the "experience" told in the end for an oul done Cargin team.

This notion that Dunloy were 'a breath of fresh air' and 'played with freedom' that I keep hearing is nonsense IMO. They set up with 14 men behind the ball in every game. That's not having a go at them, fair play to them, but some of this rhetoric about them has been rubbish.

Cargin still one step ahead of everyone else. What will worry other clubs most is that Cargin didn't appear to be at their best throughout this championship and still won it comfortably.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on October 11, 2023, 04:50:35 PM
Amen to this, previously Dunloy came up against poorly organised defences who let them run through them (I think if Lynch had of been on they would not have beaten LD), when they came across a well drilled team they turned into a team of sideways hand passing zombies and when having to shoot under P they kept Jinny's midriff

Quote from: Caesar on October 11, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 11, 2023, 03:15:41 PMSo the most open championship in years according to some on here and it's still cargin as champions!! some love in with Dunloys style on here as two weeks too yet when it came to it they pulled every man behind their own 45 within the first minute even
Guess the "experience" told in the end for an oul done Cargin team.

This notion that Dunloy were 'a breath of fresh air' and 'played with freedom' that I keep hearing is nonsense IMO. They set up with 14 men behind the ball in every game. That's not having a go at them, fair play to them, but some of this rhetoric about them has been rubbish.

Cargin still one step ahead of everyone else. What will worry other clubs most is that Cargin didn't appear to be at their best throughout this championship and still won it comfortably.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 11, 2023, 04:58:14 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 11, 2023, 04:50:35 PMAmen to this, previously Dunloy came up against poorly organised defences who let them run through them (I think if Lynch had of been on they would not have beaten LD), when they came across a well drilled team they turned into a team of sideways hand passing zombies and when having to shoot under P they kept Jinny's midriff

Quote from: Caesar on October 11, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on October 11, 2023, 03:15:41 PMSo the most open championship in years according to some on here and it's still cargin as champions!! some love in with Dunloys style on here as two weeks too yet when it came to it they pulled every man behind their own 45 within the first minute even
Guess the "experience" told in the end for an oul done Cargin team.

This notion that Dunloy were 'a breath of fresh air' and 'played with freedom' that I keep hearing is nonsense IMO. They set up with 14 men behind the ball in every game. That's not having a go at them, fair play to them, but some of this rhetoric about them has been rubbish.

Cargin still one step ahead of everyone else. What will worry other clubs most is that Cargin didn't appear to be at their best throughout this championship and still won it comfortably.

Noticed Mcdermott on the line, does the mean he is making his way into the "inner circle"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2023, 10:15:14 PM
Oh an insider in the inner circle. A podcast will be happy at that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 12, 2023, 10:07:48 AM
Don't remember anyone saying Dunloy would win or have much of a chance on Sunday.

I also think what people liked about them was that they were so direct when they attacked.

They were a counter attacking team for sure but very direct when they turned the ball over.

But it is also true that worked against weaker teams than Cargin who simply didn't leave them as much space to run into despite being a man down.

As for an open championship. Maybe open in terms of chances of getting to a final, and that certainly proved to be the case, but we are seriously short of strong teams right now!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 12, 2023, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2023, 10:07:48 AMDon't remember anyone saying Dunloy would win or have much of a chance on Sunday.

I also think what people liked about them was that they were so direct when they attacked.

They were a counter attacking team for sure but very direct when they turned the ball over.

But it is also true that worked against weaker teams than Cargin who simply didn't leave them as much space to run into despite being a man down.

As for an open championship. Maybe open in terms of chances of getting to a final, and that certainly proved to be the case, but we are seriously short of strong teams right now!
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2023, 10:07:48 AMDon't remember anyone saying Dunloy would win or have much of a chance on Sunday.

I also think what people liked about them was that they were so direct when they attacked.

They were a counter attacking team for sure but very direct when they turned the ball over.

But it is also true that worked against weaker teams than Cargin who simply didn't leave them as much space to run into despite being a man down.

As for an open championship. Maybe open in terms of chances of getting to a final, and that certainly proved to be the case, but we are seriously short of strong teams right now!
You may not of said out right Dunloy had a chance but you did mention cyncial fouling in the build up, and how the referee would deal with it would be a factor, hinting Cargin would have to resort to this tactic to stop this free flowing wonderful Dunloy team  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 12, 2023, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2023, 10:07:48 AMAs for an open championship. Maybe open in terms of chances of getting to a final, and that certainly proved to be the case, but we are seriously short of strong teams right now!

It feels quite difficult to keep people happy on here and appears to be repeated each year.  A month ago the Antrim Championship was being lauded as open and anyone could win, a number of good teams now serious contenders and a county team on the up.  Cargin win and now both they and the other teams are poor. The Tyrone championship is unique in that it is very strong but going through the others you would give any of the Antrim top 5 a chance against the other ulster counties top 5.   

Barring huge upsets (which can happen) Glen are miles ahead of the others in Derry, Kilcoo and Burren the only standouts in Down. Glenties are a quality outfit and they get little credit on here.    The top half of the Antrim league is generally in good shape, the lower half not so much.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on October 12, 2023, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 12, 2023, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 12, 2023, 10:07:48 AMAs for an open championship. Maybe open in terms of chances of getting to a final, and that certainly proved to be the case, but we are seriously short of strong teams right now!

It feels quite difficult to keep people happy on here and appears to be repeated each year.  A month ago the Antrim Championship was being lauded as open and anyone could win, a number of good teams now serious contenders and a county team on the up.  Cargin win and now both they and the other teams are poor. The Tyrone championship is unique in that it is very strong but going through the others you would give any of the Antrim top 5 a chance against the other ulster counties top 5.   

Barring huge upsets (which can happen) Glen are miles ahead of the others in Derry, Kilcoo and Burren the only standouts in Down. Glenties are a quality outfit and they get little credit on here.    The top half of the Antrim league is generally in good shape, the lower half not so much.   




Glenties a serious outfit is that 7 Donegal finals in a row now and throw in an Ulster club final along with that too yet we beat them last year and got little credit for it ,they will be in Ulster semi final at least this year too a well drilled hard outfit
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 01:18:12 PM
There seems to be a hard done by approach here from some

Not sure how that has come about, or looking to get credit for beating a Div 3 team in the final. ;) 

Facts of the matter is this Cargin are the only show in town, that's been evident from getting that lucky goal against us  ;D , I jest...

The attitude from the players from my perspective is top drawer, haven't seen that matched this year or last few any time I've been involved in their games.

Think Mick was talking about disrespect or lack of, after the final, not sure who that's was directed too, not many would, with all seriousness, say they haven't been the top team, so not sure whos disrespecting them.

So this will be 7 runs at Ulster championship, big win last year and now another go at the Derry champions..
Seasoned campaigners in Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 12, 2023, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 01:18:12 PMThere seems to be a hard done by approach here from some

Not sure how that has come about, or looking to get credit for beating a Div 3 team in the final. ;) 

Facts of the matter is this Cargin are the only show in town, that's been evident from getting that lucky goal against us  ;D , I jest...

The attitude from the players from my perspective is top drawer, haven't seen that matched this year or last few any time I've been involved in their games.

Think Mick was talking about disrespect or lack of, after the final, not sure who that's was directed too, not many would, with all seriousness, say they haven't been the top team, so not sure whos disrespecting them.

So this will be 7 runs at Ulster championship, big win last year and now another go at the Derry champions..
Seasoned campaigners in Ulster

I hope Cargin represent us well and win Ulster.

Appreciate its a different level and not easy, especially when sleep walking through Antrim and then met with hard, flying runners, tacklers etc.

The chip on the shoulder thing is mad though. Cargin clearly the best in Antrim and I gave Dunloy no chance, being slated for saying I hoped they at least had a go.

Glenties game was genuinely lucky for Cargin last year, Glenties could have been out of sight but Cargin hung in and got level by hoofing in high balls that 9 times out of 10 don't result in a goal.

I was disappointed they then played within themselves and tried not to get hammered by Glen. They literally didn't have a shot from play in the first half.
Galls used to play on their own terms and beat many teams in Ulster playing that way

I appreciate going toe to toe may have resulted in a hammering so damned if they did etc

But I'd leave the chip on the shoulder shite to Tyrone people (who you always get a rise out of!)and answer any critics on the field in Ulster.

Cargin the best by far from here and I genuinely hope they push on this year...though Glen or Slaughtneil are admittedly the toughest draw bar Kilcoo.

A quality team but won't get the kudos Galls got till push on in Ulster. I hope you do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: breakingball on October 12, 2023, 07:05:10 PM
Agree, naomh conaill dominated the game, they had Cargin beat, two or three times, and only for Hail Mary sort of stuff Cargin managed to bring the game to extra time and then get over the line. cargin did get over the line though and credit to them for that but it was day-light robbery.

 
Quote from: Gold on October 12, 2023, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 01:18:12 PMThere seems to be a hard done by approach here from some

Not sure how that has come about, or looking to get credit for beating a Div 3 team in the final. ;) 

Facts of the matter is this Cargin are the only show in town, that's been evident from getting that lucky goal against us  ;D , I jest...

The attitude from the players from my perspective is top drawer, haven't seen that matched this year or last few any time I've been involved in their games.

Think Mick was talking about disrespect or lack of, after the final, not sure who that's was directed too, not many would, with all seriousness, say they haven't been the top team, so not sure whos disrespecting them.

So this will be 7 runs at Ulster championship, big win last year and now another go at the Derry champions..
Seasoned campaigners in Ulster

I hope Cargin represent us well and win Ulster.

Appreciate its a different level and not easy, especially when sleep walking through Antrim and then met with hard, flying runners, tacklers etc.

The chip on the shoulder thing is mad though. Cargin clearly the best in Antrim and I gave Dunloy no chance, being slated for saying I hoped they at least had a go.

Glenties game was genuinely lucky for Cargin last year, Glenties could have been out of sight but Cargin hung in and got level by hoofing in high balls that 9 times out of 10 don't result in a goal.

I was disappointed they then played within themselves and tried not to get hammered by Glen. They literally didn't have a shot from play in the first half.
Galls used to play on their own terms and beat many teams in Ulster playing that way

I appreciate going toe to toe may have resulted in a hammering so damned if they did etc

But I'd leave the chip on the shoulder shite to Tyrone people (who you always get a rise out of!)and answer any critics on the field in Ulster.

Cargin the best by far from here and I genuinely hope they push on this year...though Glen or Slaughtneil are admittedly the toughest draw bar Kilcoo.

A quality team but won't get the kudos Galls got till push on in Ulster. I hope you do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 12, 2023, 07:48:50 PM
Quote from: breakingball on October 12, 2023, 07:05:10 PMAgree, naomh conaill dominated the game, they had Cargin beat, two or three times, and only for Hail Mary sort of stuff Cargin managed to bring the game to extra time and then get over the line. cargin did get over the line though and credit to them for that but it was day-light robbery.

 
Quote from: Gold on October 12, 2023, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 01:18:12 PMThere seems to be a hard done by approach here from some

Not sure how that has come about, or looking to get credit for beating a Div 3 team in the final. ;) 

Facts of the matter is this Cargin are the only show in town, that's been evident from getting that lucky goal against us  ;D , I jest...

The attitude from the players from my perspective is top drawer, haven't seen that matched this year or last few any time I've been involved in their games.

Think Mick was talking about disrespect or lack of, after the final, not sure who that's was directed too, not many would, with all seriousness, say they haven't been the top team, so not sure whos disrespecting them.

So this will be 7 runs at Ulster championship, big win last year and now another go at the Derry champions..
Seasoned campaigners in Ulster

I hope Cargin represent us well and win Ulster.

Appreciate its a different level and not easy, especially when sleep walking through Antrim and then met with hard, flying runners, tacklers etc.

The chip on the shoulder thing is mad though. Cargin clearly the best in Antrim and I gave Dunloy no chance, being slated for saying I hoped they at least had a go.

Glenties game was genuinely lucky for Cargin last year, Glenties could have been out of sight but Cargin hung in and got level by hoofing in high balls that 9 times out of 10 don't result in a goal.

I was disappointed they then played within themselves and tried not to get hammered by Glen. They literally didn't have a shot from play in the first half.
Galls used to play on their own terms and beat many teams in Ulster playing that way

I appreciate going toe to toe may have resulted in a hammering so damned if they did etc

But I'd leave the chip on the shoulder shite to Tyrone people (who you always get a rise out of!)and answer any critics on the field in Ulster.

Cargin the best by far from here and I genuinely hope they push on this year...though Glen or Slaughtneil are admittedly the toughest draw bar Kilcoo.

A quality team but won't get the kudos Galls got till push on in Ulster. I hope you do.

Jeez such utter tripe from bb, and similar rubbish from G...

Not worthy of comment...green eyes with poor memory with vision blurred by jealousy.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2023, 08:26:51 AM
So, which other team other than Gall's or Cargin has made it through the first round of Ulster in the past 20 years....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2023, 08:55:46 AM
St endas and ballymena at least ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 13, 2023, 08:55:46 AMSt endas and ballymena at least ;D

think dunloy also back in 2008? roughly? intermediate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 09:33:35 AM
Antrim all stars shortlist released. I know the funding maybe isnt there for it but id like to see one for each grade. Seann Elliot up against C Johnston. Both deserve one. As do D Smyth and N Swann at 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 13, 2023, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 09:33:35 AMAntrim all stars shortlist released. I know the funding maybe isnt there for it but id like to see one for each grade. Seann Elliot up against C Johnston. Both deserve one. As do D Smyth and N Swann at 6

Agree with that, some positional changes to suit some but to have both those lads at 10. isn't right.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 11:01:50 AM
Glenravel have four and portglenone have four
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 13, 2023, 12:58:58 PM
Has to be difficult to get the blend right of all three grades. Plus, positions in football are outdated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on October 13, 2023, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 13, 2023, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 09:33:35 AMAntrim all stars shortlist released. I know the funding maybe isnt there for it but id like to see one for each grade. Seann Elliot up against C Johnston. Both deserve one. As do D Smyth and N Swann at 6

Agree with that, some positional changes to suit some but to have both those lads at 10. isn't right.

It's a nonsense and really is a waste of time.

Neither of those two at six are fit to lace Paul McCann's boots. Anyone who can't see how integral he is to how Cargin play really shouldn't have a vote.

Shifting players like Conal Cunning around into a corner forward slot  who get plenty of airtime just so he gets an award farcical and disrespectful to any genuine corner forwards who lined out in intermediate and junior grade.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2023, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 13, 2023, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 13, 2023, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 09:33:35 AMAntrim all stars shortlist released. I know the funding maybe isnt there for it but id like to see one for each grade. Seann Elliot up against C Johnston. Both deserve one. As do D Smyth and N Swann at 6

Agree with that, some positional changes to suit some but to have both those lads at 10. isn't right.

It's a nonsense and really is a waste of time.

Neither of those two at six are fit to lace Paul McCann's boots. Anyone who can't see how integral he is to how Cargin play really shouldn't have a vote.

Shifting players like Conal Cunning around into a corner forward slot  who get plenty of airtime just so he gets an award farcical and disrespectful to any genuine corner forwards who lined out in intermediate and junior grade.


Definitely agree Oso....votes do not matter in this...
A few individuals select the line up, and they will determine the winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 13, 2023, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 13, 2023, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 09:33:35 AMAntrim all stars shortlist released. I know the funding maybe isnt there for it but id like to see one for each grade. Seann Elliot up against C Johnston. Both deserve one. As do D Smyth and N Swann at 6

Agree with that, some positional changes to suit some but to have both those lads at 10. isn't right.

It's a nonsense and really is a waste of time.

Neither of those two at six are fit to lace Paul McCann's boots. Anyone who can't see how integral he is to how Cargin play really shouldn't have a vote.

Shifting players like Conal Cunning around into a corner forward slot  who get plenty of airtime just so he gets an award farcical and disrespectful to any genuine corner forwards who lined out in intermediate and junior grade.


its not about who is the better play though. We're not picking a county team. Who contributes more for their team that particular year. But it would be easier to pick at each individual grade. But here its better having it than not having it so fair play to the devenish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 13, 2023, 03:04:17 PM
Really is no such thing as your classic corner forward nowadays anyway. Likes of Seaan Elliott would have been 15 years ago or less, now he's a power runner from deep. Deep laying attacker.
Impossible job to narrow it down over three grades. Always going to be someone left out.
It's better than nothing at all though!

Have we any idea who it is that selects the nominees?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 04:39:04 PM
Theres a panel. Think likes of mctaggart on it. Boys that would attend a lot of games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 13, 2023, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 04:39:04 PMTheres a panel. Think likes of mctaggart on it. Boys that would attend a lot of games

B Crossan runs the show.....regular at many games...??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 13, 2023, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 13, 2023, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 13, 2023, 04:39:04 PMTheres a panel. Think likes of mctaggart on it. Boys that would attend a lot of games

B Crossan runs the show.....regular at many games...??

Unless Cushendall have started playing Gaelic, and junior/Intermediate ? Forget about it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on October 15, 2023, 10:03:02 AM
Heard Wednesday evening in dunsilly,the Kelly brothers,Niall and Garret are working in the background to take over the management off casements senior team, not happy with current set up and getting backed  y the VC off the club,any truth Bs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on October 15, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
If JMcK does or has stepped down,I can't see Pg1 ratifying that management duo(2 eejits)I think it's uncle and nephew not brothers,a lot off teams as Bannside says looking or mulling over potential managements
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 15, 2023, 12:41:03 PM
Hear they need a ref for the down final.

Think as their neighbours it would only be right to send our best across the border, Cathal McDermott.

Be some laugh 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 15, 2023, 12:41:03 PMHear they need a ref for the down final.

Think as their neighbours it would only be right to send our best across the border, Cathal McDermott.

Be some laugh 🤣

The boys would have some craic at the Down county board. And we complain about our ref's!  There's always someone worse off than ourselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 15, 2023, 08:46:43 PM
The u19 championship is alive and well. Cargin v Naomh Brid final in a a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on October 15, 2023, 10:49:55 PM
Was there an under 19 game today? Who was playing? Nothing online ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 11:10:56 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on October 15, 2023, 10:49:55 PMWas there an under 19 game today? Who was playing? Nothing online ?

Under-19A Football Championship semi final

St Enda's 0-05 Erin's Own Cargin 3-11


Cargin's under-19's followed in the footsteps of their senior counterparts when a win over St Enda's at Hightown on Sunday ensured they booked their place in the final of the competition at the expense of St. Enda's

The Toome lads had several from the senior side on duty and travelled in confidence and although they took a while to warm to the task, they were to prove successful.
conditions were excellent as the game commenced and it took Cargin a time to get up to speed but with Cahir Donnelly and Charlie McCann dominating the central zone they were first to strike with a Conan Johnston point in the 3rd minute.

The centre back was to prove prominent throughout and he was to play a part in the next score as Jack O' Neill found the net.

Hugh O' Donnell began the move with a fine interception and clearance and when Diarmuid Quinn's flick sent the corner forward in on target he finished to the back of the net with the game clock at 10 minutes.

The visitors went further ahead by the end of the first quarter with the hard grafting Jack Harney adding a point and Callum Gribbin following with a couple as they added 1-04 without reply by the 20th minute.

St Enda's finally got off the mark in the 25th minute when their hard grafting full forward Michael McKenna pointed but Cargin were quick to respond as Jack Harney's delivery and Jack O' Neill's assist opened the way for central defender Conan Johnston to add another goal.

The Toome men pressed forward in the latter stages and the home side's keeper, Seanan Nagle made a fine save to deny Diarmuid Quinn in the the 29th minute but Cargin looked in control at the end of the period when they held a 2-04 to 0-01.

St Enda's started the second half well, adding a couple of points through Pat Dornan and Michael McKenna in response to similar scores at the other end by Tom Shivers.

The impressive full forward was to add another point to Cargin's total and at 2-07 to 0-03 they were well on top at the 40th minute.

St Enda's replied with a 42nd minute point through hard working mid fielder Sean Murray but it brought swift reply at the other end as a fine fetch and delivery by Jack Harney found Diarmuid Quinn who placed Kian Scullion to fire home and the end was nigh.

Diarmuid Quinn, who had impressed throughout added a couple more points with Ben Mc Larnon and Conan Johnston adding one apiece.

The home side had the last score with a 59th minute point from full forward Michael Mc Kenna but the long blast which quickly followed signalled victory for the Cargin lads who will now go forward to meet St Brigid's in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Bring back club football on October 15, 2023, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: referee on October 15, 2023, 12:39:51 PMIf JMcK does or has stepped down,I can't see Pg1 ratifying that management duo(2 eejits)I think it's uncle and nephew not brothers,a lot off teams as Bannside says looking or mulling over potential managements

They're already paying their own club man a kings ransoms so why would the Kelly's be treated any different?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 15, 2023, 11:43:59 PM
PGO have lost 4 or 5 semi-finals in a row?

Need to pay somebody else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 08:05:00 AM
Quote from: Bring back club football on October 15, 2023, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: referee on October 15, 2023, 12:39:51 PMIf JMcK does or has stepped down,I can't see Pg1 ratifying that management duo(2 eejits)I think it's uncle and nephew not brothers,a lot off teams as Bannside says looking or mulling over potential managements

They're already paying their own club man a kings ransoms so why would the Kelly's be treated any different?
Poor form there, no chance is that true. This is what you get these days for taking your own club, scandalous lies are told.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2023, 08:45:31 AM
100% EOC. Very poor form indeed! JMK dosent charge take a penny from his club, and is well regarded and respected. I don't place any merit whatsoever in the rumour G&T started. Expect JMK back on the line here next year, albeit with a freshened up backroom team. I haven't heard anything else to the contrary.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on October 16, 2023, 10:19:51 AM
Bs I was only saying what I was told at the schools football,I didn't  mention JMc K taking money,I personally think he's the right man for your club,freshening up his backroom team??any names who's going and who's coming in Bs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AM
Aye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

its down as Celtic Park as a double header with Glenravel v Glenullin/Banagher on before it.
12.00 + 2.00pm
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on October 17, 2023, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

Are we going for a 2 all draw after ET?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: seanyb on October 17, 2023, 10:30:24 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2023, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

Are we going for a 2 all draw after ET?  ;D

Couldn't be worse than Antrim final of 2018, could it?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 17, 2023, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

its down as Celtic Park as a double header with Glenravel v Glenullin/Banagher on before it.
12.00 + 2.00pm

whats a double header???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 17, 2023, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

its down as Celtic Park as a double header with Glenravel v Glenullin/Banagher on before it.
12.00 + 2.00pm

whats a double header???

Milltown Row & country bumpkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 17, 2023, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 17, 2023, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

its down as Celtic Park as a double header with Glenravel v Glenullin/Banagher on before it.
12.00 + 2.00pm

whats a double header???

Milltown Row & country bumpkin

I think ill stream it! PPV?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 17, 2023, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2023, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on October 09, 2023, 02:16:17 PMhe tried pulling out, the ball was in the air and he went for it and half pulled out mid air. Stupid to do it but still dont think its a straight red


Ball was in the keepers arms before he jumped off the ground. it was spur of the moment and it looked like he knew straight away and regretted it. I thought the same as you when i saw it, but when i saw it again it didnt look good.
not nice getting a red in a county final but i think ref got it right.

What stuff are people on 🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 17, 2023, 04:35:21 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 17, 2023, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 17, 2023, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 16, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?
Going back to Cargin v Derrygonnelly 2019, we underperformed then had a frustrating 3 long years to get another crack (covid year of 2020 and Creggans win) So getting another go at a top team so soon again has to be a good thing for possible progress. We've got one of the hardest draws we could of got but we will have had 5 weeks to prepare so cant complain and what a huge victory it would be should it come off.
Glenravel I would expect to go well in the intermediate Antrim teams have done well in recent years. Don't know so much about the junior grade tbh.

I don't know if you underperformed that day against Derrygonnelly, they were very good that day, as physical as yourselves and took the scores.

Gave the Donegal champions too much of a start that year and had all the momentum but ran out of time, going to be a hard game again this year, be interesting to see how Cargin approach the game, that'll be down to who they get I suppose, but keeping it tight early doors and then going at them and putting them on the back foot.. Should be a good game, might even head up to Derry (if its there and not Owenbeg)

its down as Celtic Park as a double header with Glenravel v Glenullin/Banagher on before it.
12.00 + 2.00pm

whats a double header???

Milltown Row & country bumpkin

Post of the week and it's only Tuesday 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on October 18, 2023, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 16, 2023, 11:03:48 AMAye surely! Do you want to know what they had for breakfast?

Can Cargin take Glen or Magherafelt, that's the main item on the agenda now. Or Glenravel / Rasharkin in the ulster club?

Genuinely do believe Cargin can take the Derry winners BS. This is a Cargin side with a perfect mix of fearlessness in the youth, experience in the older men as well as a hunger to make a name for themselves.

Glenravel and Rasharkin will give both of their ulster club championships a shot - Rasharkin one of the better Junior winners of recent years IMO.

Antrim are starting up next week. Hope John Morgan got a call up he had a solid campaign for the Derry/Antrim/Tyrone amalgamation.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2023, 04:40:55 PM
Although Glen are hot favourites I've heard a couple of people express the view that Magherafelt might put it up to them.

It's been a long year for Glen, the run to the club final before their county players were straight back up and at it, and they haven't stopped since. Some day they will climb one mountain too many, just a question of when that will be.

Cargin have the blend now,as you say, great mix of legs and experience, and unlike last year will be very fresh going into this. Where that takes them time will tell, but all things considered youde expect them to be going into this in far better shape than last year.

Twill be an interesting few months ahead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 18, 2023, 06:41:36 PM
 
Quote from: bannside on October 18, 2023, 04:40:55 PMAlthough Glen are hot favourites I've heard a couple of people express the view that Magherafelt might put it up to them.

It's been a long year for Glen, the run to the club final before their county players were straight back up and at it, and they haven't stopped since. Some day they will climb one mountain too many, just a question of when that will be.

Cargin have the blend now,as you say, great mix of legs and experience, and unlike last year will be very fresh going into this. Where that takes them time will tell, but all things considered youde expect them to be going into this in far better shape than last year.

Twill be an interesting few months ahead.
Strangely Glen only have a couple of county players BS so in fairness it's been a long season for Glass and Doherty, McFaul was well rested before he came back.
Glen will be aiming for revenge against Kilmacud but theyv a few obstacles to cross before they play the Dublin men again.
Someone mentioned Morgan from St Brogids, he was definitely asked into county senior setup recently.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 20, 2023, 07:28:43 PM
I see the Moneyglass ladies have landed in a difficult spot with three matches this weekend. Camogie finals on Saturday which a few of their senior panel are involved in and then the Donaghmoyne match is at 2pm on Sunday and they've been told they have to play the Antrim Minor final at 8pm on Sunday night despite some of those minors being on the senior panel and the two coaches of the team also being senior players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 20, 2023, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 20, 2023, 07:28:43 PMI see the Moneyglass ladies have landed in a difficult spot with three matches this weekend. Camogie finals on Saturday which a few of their senior panel are involved in and then the Donaghmoyne match is at 2pm on Sunday and they've been told they have to play the Antrim Minor final at 8pm on Sunday night despite some of those minors being on the senior panel and the two coaches of the team also being senior players.

Doesn't suprise me. The LGFA in Antrim is a complete shambles.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on October 20, 2023, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 20, 2023, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 20, 2023, 07:28:43 PMI see the Moneyglass ladies have landed in a difficult spot with three matches this weekend. Camogie finals on Saturday which a few of their senior panel are involved in and then the Donaghmoyne match is at 2pm on Sunday and they've been told they have to play the Antrim Minor final at 8pm on Sunday night despite some of those minors being on the senior panel and the two coaches of the team also being senior players.

Doesn't suprise me. The LGFA in Antrim is a complete shambles.
Agree 100%  There seems to be 2 or 3 people running the lgfa in Antrim . They made a mess of the St.Endas debacle and things didn't go well for them in underage issue with St.Pauls. They do not actual adhere to their national guidelines either !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on October 21, 2023, 11:45:31 AM
Is Morgan the only call up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 21, 2023, 03:35:39 PM
Andy Mc will be quietly content with the draw Antrim got, winnable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 21, 2023, 04:00:18 PM
Definitely settle for that for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 21, 2023, 06:14:32 PM
Would've liked it in corrigan instead of Newry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 21, 2023, 06:16:51 PM
It's a good draw for both. If we continue on the same trajectory we have been you'd hope we'd win but down would say the same. Not often you see an ulster draw and think we've a good chance here but I think we do here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 21, 2023, 07:30:23 PM
As good a draw as we would have hoped for after last years league game, our lads know they have nothing to fear. Interesting to see how league games goes between the two sides. If we draw them in McKenna Cup we could end up playing them 3 times (at least) next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 24, 2023, 10:27:08 AM
Down are very beatable.  a good draw to get
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PM
That was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 24, 2023, 02:21:55 PM
Are they fully moneyglass? do cargin have a team. Hopefully they can go on now and win ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 02:23:02 PM
I think those O'Neills at least are Cargin but not sure.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 02:32:51 PM
There's definitely some crossover in terms of some players have played Camogie for other teams like Cargin and Randalstown but I've no idea where they actually live.

Cargin I don't think have a senior team but definitely have juvenile as my daughter played them this year. Randalstown have a senior team but think it's quite new. They got to junior B final but lost to Creggan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on October 24, 2023, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 24, 2023, 02:21:55 PMAre they fully moneyglass? do cargin have a team. Hopefully they can go on now and win ulster

There would be a few with Cargin and Randalstown connections but 95% of the squad have played with Moneyglass from juveniles up to now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 24, 2023, 03:14:20 PM
Further green shoots....

St Malachys year 9 beat St Pats Armagh 1 -07 - to 2 -03 to win McGreevy Cup for Ulster Colleges.

Well done coaches, be that gaelfast, club and or school.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2023, 03:35:26 PM
St Malachy's have a few good GAA teachers at the minute which will always help
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on October 24, 2023, 05:02:53 PM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on October 24, 2023, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 24, 2023, 02:21:55 PMAre they fully moneyglass? do cargin have a team. Hopefully they can go on now and win ulster

There would be a few with Cargin and Randalstown connections but 95% of the squad have played with Moneyglass from juveniles up to now.

It's a south west antrim select team. Almost half the starters at the weekend hail from other clubs. They may have played underage for moneyglass but that's only because there was no underage ladies football at that stage in Cargin, Randalstown, Creggan etc and still isn't in Portglenone or ahoghill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 25, 2023, 09:47:48 AM
Is young McIntosh a glens girl too?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2023, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 25, 2023, 09:47:48 AMIs young McIntosh a glens girl too?

Niamhs mum is Pauline McCoy from Moneyglass.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.

My wee girl played both Cargin and Creggan at u-12 and would agree they were strong. I also thought St Comgalls had 2 or 3 exceptional players so if they can build around them, they should be decent.

My girls team lost every match this season but they had maybe 4 actual u-12s and then lots of younger ones playing up. Hopefully they can maintain it but here in the Glens Camogie is more popular although my girl probably prefers the football now. Just hope they can keep fielding a team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on October 25, 2023, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.

I think some of those you have mentioned from ahoghill actually live in toome as there isn't much building around ahoghill.  In addition I think some may have gotten fed up listening to the moneyglass hype.  They have never been very quick to acknowledge that they have pulled from many surrounding clubs since their inception, simply because these girls had no other option locally.  Some of their best players at present and down through the years were from surrounding clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.

My wee girl played both Cargin and Creggan at u-12 and would agree they were strong. I also thought St Comgalls had 2 or 3 exceptional players so if they can build around them, they should be decent.

My girls team lost every match this season but they had maybe 4 actual u-12s and then lots of younger ones playing up. Hopefully they can maintain it but here in the Glens Camogie is more popular although my girl probably prefers the football now. Just hope they can keep fielding a team.

We played Glenariffe U12s as well, back at the start of June down in Waterfoot.

While the game wouldn't have been close, I said to their coach after it was great to see new teams starting up and the most important thing at that age is keeping them at it and not thinking about the results.

Watching their u14s this year it shows that there is ability there as the were strong so hopefully they stick at it.

Plus its a great location for a summers evening match, as we all headed to the beach after it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 25, 2023, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.

My wee girl played both Cargin and Creggan at u-12 and would agree they were strong. I also thought St Comgalls had 2 or 3 exceptional players so if they can build around them, they should be decent.

My girls team lost every match this season but they had maybe 4 actual u-12s and then lots of younger ones playing up. Hopefully they can maintain it but here in the Glens Camogie is more popular although my girl probably prefers the football now. Just hope they can keep fielding a team.

We played Glenariffe U12s as well, back at the start of June down in Waterfoot.

While the game wouldn't have been close, I said to their coach after it was great to see new teams starting up and the most important thing at that age is keeping them at it and not thinking about the results.

Watching their u14s this year it shows that there is ability there as the were strong so hopefully they stick at it.

Plus its a great location for a summers evening match, as we all headed to the beach after it!

i think the afore mentioned Pauline McCoy got this going. Her 3 kids always came up to Moneyglass to play as there was no big ball, boys or girls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 05:28:47 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.

My wee girl played both Cargin and Creggan at u-12 and would agree they were strong. I also thought St Comgalls had 2 or 3 exceptional players so if they can build around them, they should be decent.

My girls team lost every match this season but they had maybe 4 actual u-12s and then lots of younger ones playing up. Hopefully they can maintain it but here in the Glens Camogie is more popular although my girl probably prefers the football now. Just hope they can keep fielding a team.

We played Glenariffe U12s as well, back at the start of June down in Waterfoot.

While the game wouldn't have been close, I said to their coach after it was great to see new teams starting up and the most important thing at that age is keeping them at it and not thinking about the results.

Watching their u14s this year it shows that there is ability there as the were strong so hopefully they stick at it.

Plus its a great location for a summers evening match, as we all headed to the beach after it!

Honestly don't think there was a team that played Glenariffe this year that didn't go to the beach, lol.

The U14 team was very strong this year. There's about half a dozen of them played Camogie for Antrim and one played football for the county too. The team has girls from Cushendall, Glenariffe and Carnlough definitely but there may even be some from Cushendun too but honestly not sure.

There's a wee bit of a gap in the numbers atm around what was the u12 group this year but there are good numbers at the fundamentals etc for both players and loads of coaches too. Hopefully, they can keep it going as my daughter loves it.

Pauline is heavily involved in it still and coached the u14 and u16 groups this season. Both did well with the u14 winning the B championship and U16 being runners-up in the B championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on October 25, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Did they not win a league a few years ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 05:28:47 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 25, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 24, 2023, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PMThat was some win for moneyglass at the weekend in the football. Hopefully they can win ulster at least though seem like some good teams still left too. If we had an Orlaith Prenter type forward in our mens team we'd be doing well.

They're some outfit. Won it then hours later won the minor Antrim title with a pile of the senior panel involved. Completed a sweep at juvenile with u-14, U16 and minor championships. Going to take a while for someone to catch them. They even won one of the lower Camogie titles on Saturday.

I think what Moneyglass are doing right is getting those senior players involved with coaching the underage.

This year Cathy Carey, Orlaith Prenter and Bronagh Devlin were all involved, maybe a few more.

That is bringing a great input to their training and also it is very inspiring for their girls to have them involved.

I think however, the rest are going to catch up with them as there are plenty putting in the work now that weren't before.

As mentioned here, Tír na nÓg have only recently started aa senior ladies team after years of losing our players to the likes of Moneyglass.

There are others from other clubs with them too that if it was nowadays they would stay with their own club.

So we are a bit behind at that level and then trying to catch up at those levels below.

I know this year at U12 with the team I was coaching, I would say us, Cargin (who seem to have been able to get a fair number of PG1 and Ahoghill girls playing for them who in the past may have gone to MG) and maybe creggan were the best teams in the county by a fair enough margin.

So my expectation is by the time we are at u16, the Moneyglass dominance at underage will not be as impressive as it is now, although with the age of most of their senior panel they will stay at the top of that level for a few years to come.

My wee girl played both Cargin and Creggan at u-12 and would agree they were strong. I also thought St Comgalls had 2 or 3 exceptional players so if they can build around them, they should be decent.

My girls team lost every match this season but they had maybe 4 actual u-12s and then lots of younger ones playing up. Hopefully they can maintain it but here in the Glens Camogie is more popular although my girl probably prefers the football now. Just hope they can keep fielding a team.

We played Glenariffe U12s as well, back at the start of June down in Waterfoot.

While the game wouldn't have been close, I said to their coach after it was great to see new teams starting up and the most important thing at that age is keeping them at it and not thinking about the results.

Watching their u14s this year it shows that there is ability there as the were strong so hopefully they stick at it.

Plus its a great location for a summers evening match, as we all headed to the beach after it!

Honestly don't think there was a team that played Glenariffe this year that didn't go to the beach, lol.

The U14 team was very strong this year. There's about half a dozen of them played Camogie for Antrim and one played football for the county too. The team has girls from Cushendall, Glenariffe and Carnlough definitely but there may even be some from Cushendun too but honestly not sure.

There's a wee bit of a gap in the numbers atm around what was the u12 group this year but there are good numbers at the fundamentals etc for both players and loads of coaches too. Hopefully, they can keep it going as my daughter loves it.

Pauline is heavily involved in it still and coached the u14 and u16 groups this season. Both did well with the u14 winning the B championship and U16 being runners-up in the B championship.

I will be involved with TNN u12 and u14 (football and camogie) next year so I would say we will cross paths at some stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 25, 2023, 10:44:27 PM
My girl will be u14 next season. Football with Glenariffe and camogie with Carnlough so aye we'll probably cross paths at some stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 11:50:35 AM
The u19 finals are upon us; tonight at Dunsilly Naomh Brid v Cargin in the 'A', hope the weather holds and we get a good game. B final on Sunday, LD v Glenravel, also Dunsilly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 26, 2023, 12:49:16 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 11:50:35 AMThe u19 finals are upon us; tonight at Dunsilly Naomh Brid v Cargin in the 'A', hope the weather holds and we get a good game. B final on Sunday, LD v Glenravel, also Dunsilly.
Hoping for a good game too Brendan. Your boys will be strong favourites with no distractions of players being tied with seniors. Hopefully we cans still make it competitive.
Suprised Glenravel in the B, their u17s had been strong in previous two seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on October 26, 2023, 03:04:22 PM
Well done to Aghagallon's Ruairi McCann who made the Tailteann Cup team of the year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 26, 2023, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 26, 2023, 03:04:22 PMWell done to Aghagallon's Ruairi McCann who made the Tailteann Cup team of the year!

Well deserved. Like all these things, if we'd got into the final we'd probably have 2 or 3 more - Marc Jordan, Peter Healy for instance. Healy was very unlucky to pick up an injury early in the semifinal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 26, 2023, 04:23:26 PM
LMFAO


Quote from: EOC1923 on October 26, 2023, 12:49:16 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 11:50:35 AMThe u19 finals are upon us; tonight at Dunsilly Naomh Brid v Cargin in the 'A', hope the weather holds and we get a good game. B final on Sunday, LD v Glenravel, also Dunsilly.
Hoping for a good game too Brendan. Your boys will be strong favourites with no distractions of players being tied with seniors. Hopefully we cans still make it competitive.
Suprised Glenravel in the B, their u17s had been strong in previous two seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 04:47:23 PM
Will leave the kidology for others. Looking forward to a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 26, 2023, 05:01:21 PM
Go easy on them Brendan 😃
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2023, 09:22:58 PM
Cargin won the u19. Not sure score etc but was 6-5 at halftime.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PM
Cargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2023, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PMCargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 26, 2023, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 26, 2023, 09:22:58 PMCargin won the u19. Not sure score etc but was 6-5 at halftime.

2.13 to 0.10
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 09:13:51 AM
I see the McNulty's have been appointed at Bredagh. Any other management comings or goings?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2023, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PMCargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..
Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 27, 2023, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2023, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PMCargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..
Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.


What about Ulster Club Champions too? Or even beating Glen? Now that would be some finish to your year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: ck on October 27, 2023, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2023, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PMCargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..
Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.


What about Ulster Club Champions too? Or even beating Glen? Now that would be some finish to your year.
Glen not there yet Ck, but yes beating whoever it is who would be great
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 27, 2023, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2023, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PMCargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..
Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.



Maith sibh 👏

Great club made up of fantastic people, well deserved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: ck on October 27, 2023, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 27, 2023, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2023, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on October 26, 2023, 09:45:17 PMCargin 2.12 NB 0.10. One point game with ten left and then Cargin pulled away. Good game.

Plenty talented players on show tonight, Cargin took their chances, had more accuracy with their attacks and the goals came at the right time in the game..
Decent game, Cargin had 2-3 classy forwards that St Brigids didn't have and that was the difference. Downey at 11 had a good start, him going off was a big loss to St B's. 
As a fellow club member tweeted earlier its a nice way for us to end our 100th year in Antrim football, Senior champions, Reserve champions and U19 champions.


What about Ulster Club Champions too? Or even beating Glen? Now that would be some finish to your year.
Glen not there yet Ck, but yes beating whoever it is who would be great

Centenary year is the best year in the club, and if you can have one of those seasons then the centenary year bash at the Elk ;)  will be all the sweeter.

We'd Ladies Ulster champions, All Ireland Champions and reached Croke park with our intermediate hurlers at the time of our centenary year, there were other wins too

But even getting domestic titles will go down as a big thing. I'm sure the resident Shakespeare will be penning the 100 year book

I'll await my invite  ;D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on October 27, 2023, 03:15:04 PM
Thought the Ref at the u19 Final last night was horrific some awful awful decisions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on October 27, 2023, 03:15:04 PMThought the Ref at the u19 Final last night was horrific some awful awful decisions

Enlighten me please
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 03:59:31 PM
I'm still not convinced these refs know the advantage rule. They all apply it differently. The referee ran about most of the game last night with his hand in the air then said advantage when the team in possession had clearly gained NO advantage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 06:15:52 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 03:59:31 PMI'm still not convinced these refs know the advantage rule. They all apply it differently. The referee ran about most of the game last night with his hand in the air then said advantage when the team in possession had clearly gained NO advantage.

Should he wait for people in the crowd to just call it? Would save a pile a shite hassle?

Go on, give me your version on the advantage rule

While I wait on the strange decisions answer from Innocents
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 08:20:27 PM
It's really quite simple actually. If there is no clear advantage after 5 seconds you go back to the free?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 08:20:27 PMIt's really quite simple actually. If there is no clear advantage after 5 seconds you go back to the free?

So after 5 seconds? After 5 seconds you are into 6 seconds.

The referee determines whether during the period of 5 seconds if there is an advantage, not managers, players or some boyo behind the fence.

If the ref feels that it's not going anywhere then he'll call it back, tell me about last night that it didn't work out for you?

In fairness to the ref he was shouting out each second
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 08:42:34 PM
Yea he was but where is the advantage when a player is forced to run in to a tackle and then get a free given against him for too long? Happened to both teams last night. Is taking a pop shot under pressure within those 5 seconds considered advantageous? Should the wide count? Or should it be taken back to the free? Genuine questions? You are the expert.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 08:58:39 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 08:42:34 PMYea he was but where is the advantage when a player is forced to run in to a tackle and then get a free given against him for too long? Happened to both teams last night. Is taking a pop shot under pressure within those 5 seconds considered advantageous? Should the wide count? Or should it be taken back to the free? Genuine questions? You are the expert.

No expert but if a shot is taken and missed within his 5 seconds then bring it back, if a player wins an advantage out the pitch and plays it into a corner forward who wins it but loses it after the 5 seconds there are cries of no advantage, he can only give 5 seconds, if the attacker drops or loses possession well that's on him. And that's an example from last night..

I didn't come away from last night thinking he's ballsed up the advantage rule.

The best cry is, we'll take the free! It's only a free if he blows his whistle or raises his arm for advantage.

I'd done a college game earlier that day, now it didn't change the result, but I'd raised the arm for a free inside the box so it's a penalty, shot taken and saved so I blew, penalty call, but the ball spilled to another attacker who put it in the net.. I probably blew a second early if I'm being honest and said that at the time, anyways, boy steps up and misses the penalty ffs!!

So with all the will in the world, it's not easy, I prefer the old school stuff of the 'slow whistle' it worked best as we'd been doing 'advantage' rule long before it was officially brought in
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 09:03:45 PM
But if you raise your hand to indicate advantage it is a free in essence? If you raise your hand and I intentionally drop the ball am I awarded the free automatically?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 09:03:45 PMBut if you raise your hand to indicate advantage it is a free in essence? If you raise your hand and I intentionally drop the ball am I awarded the free automatically?

Yeah players can stop, or drop it and they will get the free.

I didn't see that last night though, I've also taken into account around 30 meters a decent free taker will punish them so it's handier to ask the captain before the game, would they prefer a scoreable free? Some want the free every time.

Duine Inteacht Eile, I get what you're saying but it's 5 seconds, and if the rule said if shot is taken and missed,  tough, then yeah, no probs. So yeah for you the rule is an ass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2023, 09:15:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 27, 2023, 09:10:17 PMWhatever about the rest of this but I've always disagreed with the advantage rule in relation to players having a shot from a better position, missing it and it getting called back for the free. For me, the advantage is that you are given an opportunity to shoot from a better position. If you don't capitalise on it, that's tough. The rule means that you effectively get 2 frees for 1 foul. That doesn't sit right with me.

I want to clarify for the tetchy folk. My disagreement is with the rule itself, not how the referees apply it.

Yes that has always annoyed me. You got the advantage and you didn't take it - tough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 27, 2023, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 27, 2023, 09:03:45 PMBut if you raise your hand to indicate advantage it is a free in essence? If you raise your hand and I intentionally drop the ball am I awarded the free automatically?

Yeah players can stop, or drop it and they will get the free.

I didn't see that last night though, I've also taken into account around 30 meters a decent free taker will punish them so it's handier to ask the captain before the game, would they prefer a scoreable free? Some want the free every time.

Duine Inteacht Eile, I get what you're saying but it's 5 seconds, and if the rule said if shot is taken and missed,  tough, then yeah, no probs. So yeah for you the rule is an ass

That's interesting.
Teams are asked how they want a rule applied before the game. Could that not lead to the rule being applied totally differently for 2 opponents? While I understand that there is logic there, surely that's problematic?

Not really, it's something that you'd ask not before the game but certainly you'll here the captain say we'd prefer the free, it's his call for his team, I can apply it or not, not sure how it's problematic though. Surely that's good communication? Providing a scoreable free is smart? That's a good advantage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 27, 2023, 10:49:51 PMIt's just you said you'd ask it before the game.

Regardless, I would have thought that rules are applied as the referee saw it, not how an individual player judges it on an ad hoc basis.

It's problematic in that the rule is being applied inconsistently throughout the game, depending on how each captain wants (either before or during) it at any given time, if the captain is even within range of delivering that message to the referee.

You have another 14 players on the pitch who might not agree, subs, management and supporters. The referee isn't able to explain to all of these people that the captain called it. Next thing they're going mental that identical infractions have 2 totally different decisions given. I also wouldn't trust captains to back you and claim that they said fcuk all.

I think the referee should be calling all the shots and applying every rule consistently for both teams.

But, I'm not a referee.


I think the last line says it all

I've never had any hassle with it nor lose sleep over it. I suppose you could look for hassles with it. But not every captain or player will 'ask' for the free, but if you're ever on the pitch these calls are are called all the time. Ultimately it's the referee to decide within that 5 seconds to decide.

I'm experienced enough from lots of different positions to judge what I think is best, and stand over it, but happy to give 30 yard frees if a player deliberately drops ball or kicks a wide within the 5 seconds.

The rule book has always been open for interpretation. Your beef as you have said is with the rules.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 28, 2023, 09:30:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2023, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 27, 2023, 10:49:51 PMIt's just you said you'd ask it before the game.

Regardless, I would have thought that rules are applied as the referee saw it, not how an individual player judges it on an ad hoc basis.

It's problematic in that the rule is being applied inconsistently throughout the game, depending on how each captain wants (either before or during) it at any given time, if the captain is even within range of delivering that message to the referee.

You have another 14 players on the pitch who might not agree, subs, management and supporters. The referee isn't able to explain to all of these people that the captain called it. Next thing they're going mental that identical infractions have 2 totally different decisions given. I also wouldn't trust captains to back you and claim that they said fcuk all.

I think the referee should be calling all the shots and applying every rule consistently for both teams.

But, I'm not a referee.


I think the last line says it all

I've never had any hassle with it nor lose sleep over it. I suppose you could look for hassles with it. But not every captain or player will 'ask' for the free, but if you're ever on the pitch these calls are are called all the time. Ultimately it's the referee to decide within that 5 seconds to decide.

I'm experienced enough from lots of different positions to judge what I think is best, and stand over it, but happy to give 30 yard frees if a player deliberately drops ball or kicks a wide within the 5 seconds.

The rule book has always been open for interpretation. Your beef as you have said is with the rules.


Everyone sees it different I didn't see or notice any faults in the refereeing on Thursday night, was more concerned about the St Brigids social media operator, seems to have went AWOL with ten mins to go  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
Despite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 12:14:30 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AMDespite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

Stop talking about clubs taking players from other clubs.... Every club does it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 28, 2023, 01:48:00 PMI don't think that's his point. Rather why are clubs with a stack of players sanctioning players to play for them? And it's a fair point. Why would you want to deny your own players game time to facilitate other clubs' players? To win obviously but it's very shortsighted and not very moral.

If Davitts didn't enter a team should that player be unavailable? Is it fair to play for a team, within the rules? Or just deny him that opportunity of playing in an A competition?

Kerry have encouraged players from junior clubs to play at a higher grade come championship. Seems to work for them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on October 28, 2023, 02:01:28 PM
It's absolutely a fair point, especially with the numbers St Brigids have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2023, 02:01:28 PMIt's absolutely a fair point, especially with the numbers St Brigids have.

That's a st Brid's problem, the Davitts lad is playing his age group as a sanctioned player, and that's ok. If Davitts had entered a team then yeah, that's not ok
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on October 28, 2023, 03:05:34 PM
The much bigger issue in the U19 competition is the lack of participation by many clubs.  Lack of familiarity with U19?  Squeezed between minor and senior managers? Lack of push from the County?  I don't know but it's a shame.  Moving to U17 has been disastrous for a certain generation of players, and was predicted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 28, 2023, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 28, 2023, 01:48:00 PMI don't think that's his point. Rather why are clubs with a stack of players sanctioning players to play for them? And it's a fair point. Why would you want to deny your own players game time to facilitate other clubs' players? To win obviously but it's very shortsighted and not very moral.

If Davitts didn't enter a team should that player be unavailable? Is it fair to play for a team, within the rules? Or just deny him that opportunity of playing in an A competition?

Kerry have encouraged players from junior clubs to play at a higher grade come championship. Seems to work for them

Youre comparing apples with oranges. The Kerry situation is completely different.
St.Brigids have big numbers at underage by all accounts so instead of nurturing these players they are pulling in players from other clubs, not to mention the 6 Downeys. What does this say about their policy of nurturing talent?

Thanks for playing up through the ranks but this new lad is now taking your place. ...Oh, you're leaving? Ok goodbye.

Some will disagree and see short term success as a justifiable reason to pull in others club players but it is extremely short sighted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 28, 2023, 02:26:05 PMI think you've managed to entirely miss the point.

The point being a club has plenty of players and a sanctioned player from another club is playing for them?

I'm not sure it's a big thing, they haven't done anything wrong. Change the rules. The ethnical side of things seems to be what's annoying people, and strangely from someone whose club pays managers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 28, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 28, 2023, 02:26:05 PMI think you've managed to entirely miss the point.

The point being a club has plenty of players and a sanctioned player from another club is playing for them?

I'm not sure it's a big thing, they haven't done anything wrong. Change the rules. The ethnical side of things seems to be what's annoying people, and strangely from someone whose club pays managers!
Your boys have an ad up on Facebook looking a manager, good luck getting one for nothing lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 28, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 28, 2023, 02:26:05 PMI think you've managed to entirely miss the point.

The point being a club has plenty of players and a sanctioned player from another club is playing for them?

I'm not sure it's a big thing, they haven't done anything wrong. Change the rules. The ethnical side of things seems to be what's annoying people, and strangely from someone whose club pays managers!
Your boys have an ad up on Facebook looking a manager, good luck getting one for nothing lol

I'm not against paid managers, we've had them for years! At you won't find a post were I'm against it.. But your, was going to say clubman but you need to be a paid up member for that, mate was giving off about players coming in from other clubs while forgetting about the club he associates with has had players from outside
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 28, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AMDespite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 28, 2023, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 28, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AMDespite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻
Quote from: BelSaft on October 28, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AMDespite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻
Several other people commented, do you think you live rent free in every clubs head? Welcome to planet St Brigids lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on October 28, 2023, 05:20:41 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on October 28, 2023, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on October 28, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AMDespite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....
There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻
Quote from: BelSaft on October 28, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 28, 2023, 10:56:50 AMDespite a productive youth programme which has paid dividends for St Brigid's for years wonder whey the had to borrow, a lad from Michael Davitts (sanction) for the under 19 final.....

There he goes again! St Brigids St Brigids St Brigids! Living rent free in your head! Just enjoy your own success CB 👍🏻
Several other people commented, do you think you live rent free in every clubs head? Welcome to planet St Brigids lol


No it's just Country Bumpkin can put a
Post in without mentioning them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 28, 2023, 08:28:20 PM
Good job the rugby penalty advantage doesn't apply in our game. There'd be some frothing at the mouth on the sidelines at the poor refs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2023, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 28, 2023, 08:28:20 PMGood job the rugby penalty advantage doesn't apply in our game. There'd be some frothing at the mouth on the sidelines at the poor refs.

Be some craic lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on October 28, 2023, 11:11:09 PM
Do St Brigid's have huge juvenile numbers? In my experience they've struggled to put 15 out everytime I've seen them. Albeit that's LGFA, Camogie and they're part of amalgamations in hurling. Take it football is totally different?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 29, 2023, 08:43:58 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 28, 2023, 11:11:09 PMDo St Brigid's have huge juvenile numbers? In my experience they've struggled to put 15 out everytime I've seen them. Albeit that's LGFA, Camogie and they're part of amalgamations in hurling. Take it football is totally different?

2 teams at every level I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 05:51:15 PM
Glen it is then, 9 point winners after a poor first half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on October 30, 2023, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 05:51:15 PMGlen it is then, 9 point winners after a poor first half

Can Cargin beat them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on October 30, 2023, 10:51:09 AM
Difficult to judge exactly where Glen are at the moment but they have been very professional to date.  Blew Magherafelt away in that 2nd half yesterday and they have a serious amount of men who can score. 

The Derry championship is in a worse state than I had previously thought.  Glen's brilliance has taken the eye away from how badly the other teams have slipped down.     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on October 30, 2023, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: Spike on October 30, 2023, 10:51:09 AMDifficult to judge exactly where Glen are at the moment but they have been very professional to date.  Blew Magherafelt away in that 2nd half yesterday and they have a serious amount of men who can score. 

The Derry championship is in a worse state than I had previously thought.  Glen's brilliance has taken the eye away from how badly the other teams have slipped down.     
Agreed, and Glenullin looks like a very winnable game for Con Magees
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on October 30, 2023, 11:58:13 AM
Glen very unlucky at All Ireland level last time and Steelstown won the All Ireland intermediate in 2022.

Derry club football doing alright for having weak championships 😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on October 30, 2023, 12:01:38 PM
Quote from: ck on October 30, 2023, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 05:51:15 PMGlen it is then, 9 point winners after a poor first half

Can Cargin beat them?

No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2023, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: toby47 on October 30, 2023, 12:01:38 PM
Quote from: ck on October 30, 2023, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 05:51:15 PMGlen it is then, 9 point winners after a poor first half

Can Cargin beat them?

No

If Glen start the way the did yesterday and Cargin start well then Cargin won't cough up the scores in the second half, they also have a very strong bench, will be like for like players coming into play..

So who knows!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2023, 09:35:09 PM
County Agm coming up soon, nomination forms are out with clubs and need to be returned on Friday. Plenty of positions to fill including outgoing posts of chairman and treasurer who imo can both hold their heads up after very full and productive tenures.

Be interesting to see if any new blood steps forward?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2023, 09:35:09 PMCounty Agm coming up soon, nomination forms are out with clubs and need to be returned on Friday. Plenty of positions to fill including outgoing posts of chairman and treasurer who imo can both hold their heads up after very full and productive tenures.

Be interesting to see if any new blood steps forward?

Well with the amount of gurning going on there should be a least a dozen on here interested at the very least
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2023, 08:36:43 AM
Dissidents and half empty glass merchants are everywhere, they will only be happy when they've something to complain about.

New Gymnasium at Dunsilly opening this week and it's state of the art. Just one legacy from a solid list of achievements by outgoing officials.

Credit where its due!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 01, 2023, 09:43:42 AM
I would agree BS, great credit due to Ciaran and his team.  We can all pick at things but it was a tenure that brought the county on in many ways.

On another note, perhaps it is just me but are the regional boards much quieter now?  Maybe i'm missing something but certainly the SW seems to have been very quiet as past few years 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 09:45:39 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 01, 2023, 09:43:42 AMI would agree BS, great credit due to Ciaran and his team.  We can all pick at things but it was a tenure that brought the county on in many ways.

On another note, perhaps it is just me but are the regional boards much quieter now?  Maybe i'm missing something but certainly the SW seems to have been very quiet as past few years 

Most games are all county at juvenile level.. but the SW competitions are still being played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2023, 10:06:24 AM
Do all the competitions not run as they were in the SW? Do you mean PR wise or is there less in terms of competition? The SW always run things well but perhaps don't generate as much publicity I think.

Yeah our county has progressed tbf. Hurlers have been in great shape and now the footballers have stepped up too. Even the life this gets into young ones will hopefully stand us in good stead in later years too. We still have work to do but who doesn't and you couldn't say they haven't left us in a better place than we were in. Also facilities are better in terms of Dunsilly and even Corrigan - I don't think you could put anything relating to casement at the hands of current ones anyway.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 01, 2023, 10:23:17 AM
Definitely ITG.

Hard to believe almost a million pounds has been spent at Dunsilly, yet the county is debt free for the first time in memory.

Underage squads have best of everything, especially backroom support, facilities to train in, gear etc. Day and night when compared to the recent past.

SBF, CA, etc all making great strides too and providing the much needed financial platform.

Still work to do, no one disputing that, but the missing structure we have talked about for years is largely in place now, and a sincere shout out is due to those outgoing officials Ciaran McCavana and Donal Murphy who have contributed largely to this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 01, 2023, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 01, 2023, 10:06:24 AMDo all the competitions not run as they were in the SW? Do you mean PR wise or is there less in terms of competition? The SW always run things well but perhaps don't generate as much publicity I think.

Yes meant PR perspective.  Juvenile games all going ahead in SW so there is someone there sorting things out. 

BS - I'd agree with much of what you have said. Donal Murphy a very talented individual. The next officials hopefully will be equally as good and can build on much of what has gone before. 

After Dunsilly gym, (ignoring casement) what is the next big infrastructure project in the pipeline?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 01, 2023, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Spike on November 01, 2023, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 01, 2023, 10:06:24 AMDo all the competitions not run as they were in the SW? Do you mean PR wise or is there less in terms of competition? The SW always run things well but perhaps don't generate as much publicity I think.

Yes meant PR perspective.  Juvenile games all going ahead in SW so there is someone there sorting things out. 

BS - I'd agree with much of what you have said. Donal Murphy a very talented individual. The next officials hopefully will be equally as good and can build on much of what has gone before. 

After Dunsilly gym, (ignoring casement) what is the next big infrastructure project in the pipeline?

in terms of southwest, why does the O'Cahan cup not take place anymore, was a great competition in its hay day
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: geezer on November 01, 2023, 11:46:49 AM
Spike, i feel a stand of some sort at Dunsilly should be looked at next. Especially with the amount of championship games it currently hosts.

A bit of terracing do the job. The grass bank is far from ideal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 01, 2023, 01:03:07 PM
The area looks tight for a stand but certainly a few rows of terracing would be beneficial, bathroom facilities too.  depends how much use for it they see on a long term basis.  could be wrong but seemed a lot of people content with location
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PM
Large grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PMLarge grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly

Bit more parking and a terrace would be great. That said I'd be more likely to go to a match at Dunsilly than any ground in Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PMLarge grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly

Bit more parking and a terrace would be great. That said I'd be more likely to go to a match at Dunsilly than any ground in Belfast.

Never been to casement before? Would you go again if matches were on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PMLarge grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly

Bit more parking and a terrace would be great. That said I'd be more likely to go to a match at Dunsilly than any ground in Belfast.

Never been to casement before? Would you go again if matches were on?

I've been a pile of times and if it's a game I really want to go to I'll go and obviously with my daughter there's a pile of games in the city that she plays in but there's definitely been times I've decided not to go to a match as I can't be arsed with the hassle of traffic around Belfast and when it's bigger games the parking situation.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PMLarge grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly

Bit more parking and a terrace would be great. That said I'd be more likely to go to a match at Dunsilly than any ground in Belfast.

Never been to casement before? Would you go again if matches were on?

I've been a pile of times and if it's a game I really want to go to I'll go and obviously with my daughter there's a pile of games in the city that she plays in but there's definitely been times I've decided not to go to a match as I can't be arsed with the hassle of traffic around Belfast and when it's bigger games the parking situation.



This is nothing to do with Ballycastle but Christ! Leaving there is seriously long traffic to get out and to get on to rd home..

I live out by Jordanstown, go to my mums on a Sunday, it takes less than 20 minutes and she lives past Casement, I've doing that years it's never been too bad..

People expecting to park at the ground and just leave to no traffic you'd be better just to stream the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PMLarge grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly

Bit more parking and a terrace would be great. That said I'd be more likely to go to a match at Dunsilly than any ground in Belfast.

Never been to casement before? Would you go again if matches were on?

I've been a pile of times and if it's a game I really want to go to I'll go and obviously with my daughter there's a pile of games in the city that she plays in but there's definitely been times I've decided not to go to a match as I can't be arsed with the hassle of traffic around Belfast and when it's bigger games the parking situation.



This is nothing to do with Ballycastle but Christ! Leaving there is seriously long traffic to get out and to get on to rd home..

I live out by Jordanstown, go to my mums on a Sunday, it takes less than 20 minutes and she lives past Casement, I've doing that years it's never been too bad..

People expecting to park at the ground and just leave to no traffic you'd be better just to stream the game

See I love a match at Ballycastle. Down to Mortons for a feed and Mauds for an ice cream after it. Can be a disaster to get in and out of although the last match I was at (you were the ref actually) was the minor hurling final and I was near first out of the place as we wanted to get to Cushendall to catch a Camogie match. Ended up getting there just before half time so seen a couple of minutes then it got abandoned a few mins after HT due to fecking hailstones.

I done the Belfast commute for 20 years so I think I'm just mentally scarred by the place but it's just not a journey I enjoy. Particularly for LGFA matches with the wee lady. 6.30 throw ins midweek so you're heading into rush hour traffic as you're aiming to arrive 45 mins or so before and that Westlink can be murder.

Everybody will have their favourite grounds I suppose but I find when you go to a match in Belfast there's very little in terms of stewards helping with parking. It's usually a case of parking at the ground is limited and please respect the local residents which becomes a free for all. Even at the hurling final I tried to go to St Louise's to park but the gate the sat nav sent me to was locked so I ended up driving up to Corrigan and down some street and eventually  found a place that wasn't directly outside a house but I just find other places handier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 01, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 01, 2023, 05:04:45 PMLarge grass area turned into a parking area too would be good at dunsilly

Bit more parking and a terrace would be great. That said I'd be more likely to go to a match at Dunsilly than any ground in Belfast.

Never been to casement before? Would you go again if matches were on?

I've been a pile of times and if it's a game I really want to go to I'll go and obviously with my daughter there's a pile of games in the city that she plays in but there's definitely been times I've decided not to go to a match as I can't be arsed with the hassle of traffic around Belfast and when it's bigger games the parking situation.



This is nothing to do with Ballycastle but Christ! Leaving there is seriously long traffic to get out and to get on to rd home..

I live out by Jordanstown, go to my mums on a Sunday, it takes less than 20 minutes and she lives past Casement, I've doing that years it's never been too bad..

People expecting to park at the ground and just leave to no traffic you'd be better just to stream the game

See I love a match at Ballycastle. Down to Mortons for a feed and Mauds for an ice cream after it. Can be a disaster to get in and out of although the last match I was at (you were the ref actually) was the minor hurling final and I was near first out of the place as we wanted to get to Cushendall to catch a Camogie match. Ended up getting there just before half time so seen a couple of minutes then it got abandoned a few mins after HT due to fecking hailstones.

I done the Belfast commute for 20 years so I think I'm just mentally scarred by the place but it's just not a journey I enjoy. Particularly for LGFA matches with the wee lady. 6.30 throw ins midweek so you're heading into rush hour traffic as you're aiming to arrive 45 mins or so before and that Westlink can be murder.

Everybody will have their favourite grounds I suppose but I find when you go to a match in Belfast there's very little in terms of stewards helping with parking. It's usually a case of parking at the ground is limited and please respect the local residents which becomes a free for all. Even at the hurling final I tried to go to St Louise's to park but the gate the sat nav sent me to was locked so I ended up driving up to Corrigan and down some street and eventually  found a place that wasn't directly outside a house but I just find other places handier.

Shoulda just parked it at my club or Whiterock leisure centre..

I generally park on the Donegal rd for Corrigan and then dander up, then straight on westlink home.

Casement will be crazy too if it gets the numbers but park and ride or train in from Ballymena would be good if they could get a match day train
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 02, 2023, 09:35:12 AM
I agree with SS. Im more likely to go to dunsilly than corrigan. Probably doesnt make sense as i travelled to casement rain hail or snow.

Train isnt handy to west belfast really from Ballymena side?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 02, 2023, 09:55:56 AM
What's a match day train??

Corrigan can be painful enough to get out of if it's busy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2023, 09:55:56 AMWhat's a match day train??

Corrigan can be painful enough to get out of if it's busy.

If Casement is going to be used, train to Balmoral station and its about mile and a bit to the back of Casement through Owenvarragh...

A match day train for the likes of Ulster final would or could bring people in from, Newry, Portadown, Derry rather than driving all the way in. Tyronies and and co are a bit left out train wise

Like I said earlier, I'm travelling the same route to Corrigan from M2 through Westlink and never really have issues on match day, parking on the Donegall rd or even Parkcentre if your feeling fit, then straight onto a major rd when finished. Anytime I've been to Clones you park at the area before the town on the way in, and then you are dandering a hell of a lot further but its ok for some reason lol!

Think people have lost the power of their legs lol!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on November 02, 2023, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2023, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 02, 2023, 09:55:56 AMWhat's a match day train??

Corrigan can be painful enough to get out of if it's busy.

If Casement is going to be used, train to Balmoral station and its about mile and a bit to the back of Casement through Owenvarragh...

A match day train for the likes of Ulster final would or could bring people in from, Newry, Portadown, Derry rather than driving all the way in. Tyronies and and co are a bit left out train wise

Like I said earlier, I'm travelling the same route to Corrigan from M2 through Westlink and never really have issues on match day, parking on the Donegall rd or even Parkcentre if your feeling fit, then straight onto a major rd when finished. Anytime I've been to Clones you park at the area before the town on the way in, and then you are dandering a hell of a lot further but its ok for some reason lol!

Think people have lost the power of their legs lol!
Tyronies from Moy/Dungannon direction could also get on at Portadown. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 02, 2023, 03:54:38 PM
Belfast Live have an article online today about Antrim calling up one of the former Lavey Downey lads. Notably hes probably the only one of them that has zero chance of being called up by Derry. This must where we are at, which is fine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on November 02, 2023, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 02, 2023, 03:54:38 PMBelfast Live have an article online today about Antrim calling up one of the former Lavey Downey lads. Notably hes probably the only one of them that has zero chance of being called up by Derry. This must where we are at, which is fine.

So how does that work, will some of them play for Derry and now this lad is in with Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 02, 2023, 05:02:32 PM
Relax a bit. There's about 50 on an extended pre season panel, obviously these numbers will need to be trimmed at some stage. Long way to go to call him an Antrim player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 03, 2023, 09:17:06 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 02, 2023, 05:02:32 PMRelax a bit. There's about 50 on an extended pre season panel, obviously these numbers will need to be trimmed at some stage. Long way to go to call him an Antrim player.

He is a better player than alot of players that have been there in recent years, don't really think anyone is worrying so don't understand the "relax" part.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 03, 2023, 09:30:53 AM
Why would we not take him in if hes good enough (in andys eyes) and puts the work in

This lavey debate is annoying me now. We need to move on. They (downeys) are in Belfast now so if they wish to inter county transfer fair play. We've lost a good few players over the years to this, Owen Gallagher and James Loughrey being two examples so lets take him on board and support him (if he makes the cut)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Link on November 03, 2023, 03:01:27 PM
The term "Derry Underage Star" used very loosely in the articles I seen.

Decent club player and played in a very good st pat's maghera team who didn't get to play their MacRory final due to covid but was never a star in Red and White.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2023, 01:33:04 PM
 NFL fixtures are out. Away to Limerick, Home to Offaly and home to Down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 04, 2023, 06:55:15 PM
Who are the runners for convention? Ciaran and Donal will be hard to replace. Will saffron vision come back?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 04, 2023, 07:09:09 PM
Seamus McMullan (Con Magees) is sole nominee for County Chair. Brendan Toland remains as VC.

Angela Callan (St Comghalls) sole nominee for new treasurer position. Paddy Kelly remains responsible for Coaching & Games.

Sinead Mullan vice secretary, and Tony Shivers vice treasurer. Dan remains as PRO.

Terry Reilly remains our most prominent official in his role as sole Ulster rep on National Ard Comhairle.

The only debate up for consideration is for two positions on provincial Council, between Collie Donnelly, Sean Kelly, Kieran Megraw and Seamus McMullan.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 04, 2023, 07:25:10 PM
Surely the county chairman coming in is our most prominent official. Ulster will be interesting. 3 horse race for 2 positions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stillwater2 on November 04, 2023, 09:18:54 PM
Who will be the new CCC Chair?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2023, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on November 04, 2023, 09:18:54 PMWho will be the new CCC Chair?

Nobody on here for sure..

Too important throwing insults from behind the computer  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 04, 2023, 09:46:49 PM
Has there been any word of the football  leagues being restructured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardtole on November 05, 2023, 09:59:41 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 04, 2023, 01:33:04 PMNFL fixtures are out. Away to Limerick, Home to Offaly and home to Down.

I was looking for next year's div 3 fixtures but can't find them anywhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 05, 2023, 10:04:47 AM
Away Limerick
Home Offaly
Home Down
Away Sligo
Home Westmeath
Away Clare
Home Wicklow

Dates TBC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ardtole on November 05, 2023, 10:39:54 AM
Sorry, I was looking for the Down fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 05, 2023, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: ardtole on November 05, 2023, 10:39:54 AMSorry, I was looking for the Down fixtures

They're away to antrim in week 3
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 05, 2023, 03:23:06 PM
Heavy defeat for Moneyglass ladies in Ulster, bit of a shock ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2023, 08:19:07 AM
Good win for glenavy at least in the intermediate. Pity to see moneyglass beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 06, 2023, 09:11:32 AM
Moneyglass will be disappointed

Rasharkin not at the races either!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2023, 09:12:51 AM
I don't think our junior champions have ever done well in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 06, 2023, 09:15:21 AM
Rasharkin probably best chance in a while. Relegated off the back of a few 1 point defeats in div 2. Held their own in a lot of games then go and win div 3 only slipping once. That saying they are very open at the back, ODonnells pace tore them to shreds and wasnt at it but looks like they got ripped open yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2023, 09:35:57 AM
Yeah I thought they were our best chance in a while too but the county final definitely tighter than I expected.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on November 06, 2023, 09:47:08 AM
Junior football in Antrim a very low standard compared to the rest of Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 06, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
Anything mental at play when our teams go into Ulster?

Do we give the opposition too much respect?

Was only following Rasharkin on Twitter but seemed to concede 3 quick goals - not many teams will find a way back from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 06, 2023, 10:17:10 AM
I read somewhere a Cavan division 1 team is playing in the Ulster Junior Champ so I think these results can get skewed in many ways.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 06, 2023, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2023, 10:17:10 AMI read somewhere a Cavan division 1 team is playing in the Ulster Junior Champ so I think these results can get skewed in many ways.
Arva, gave ballymcguigan some hammering who i thought would have been a strong junior team.

Unsure who that's fair or possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2023, 01:22:41 PM
Hearing good prep for Cargin recently in a challenge game  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 07, 2023, 12:34:01 AM
Quote from: geezer on November 01, 2023, 11:46:49 AMSpike, i feel a stand of some sort at Dunsilly should be looked at next. Especially with the amount of championship games it currently hosts.

A bit of terracing do the job. The grass bank is far from ideal.

I was at the Camogie match at the weekend at Dunsilly and a real matter of urgency is the toilets.

I was standing in the queue at half time with a pile of Derry ones and we were at the furthest away ones which also had the Slaughtneil team coming out to use them. Apparently the other one that the ladies were queued at, one of the toilets was out of order as well so it was a bit of a disaster.

The Derry ones in the queue were taking the piss out of a so called centre of excellence having so few toilets. Presumably, and it's been said before, the intention wasn't to have as many matches there but it needs addressed. Someone said there's toilets round the other side of the block but they were locked apparently.

I've been at games there when there was portaloos but definitely think a toilet block down in the corner near the wooded area would be useful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on November 07, 2023, 08:32:37 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 06, 2023, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2023, 10:17:10 AMI read somewhere a Cavan division 1 team is playing in the Ulster Junior Champ so I think these results can get skewed in many ways.
Arva, gave ballymcguigan some hammering who i thought would have been a strong junior team.

Unsure who that's fair or possible.


Yes that is correct, they are division 1, winning their relegation playoff to stay up again next year. Their intermediate representatives, Ballyhaise, are also division 1. Makes a bit of a mockery of the whole system.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 07, 2023, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 07, 2023, 08:32:37 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 06, 2023, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 06, 2023, 10:17:10 AMI read somewhere a Cavan division 1 team is playing in the Ulster Junior Champ so I think these results can get skewed in many ways.
Arva, gave ballymcguigan some hammering who i thought would have been a strong junior team.

Unsure who that's fair or possible.


Yes that is correct, they are division 1, winning their relegation playoff to stay up again next year. Their intermediate representatives, Ballyhaise, are also division 1. Makes a bit of a mockery of the whole system.



how many teams in div 1?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 07, 2023, 10:34:32 AM
Cavans 12/13th best team are playing junior? What an absolute disgrace. We should put our senior runner ups into intermediate and Portglenone into junior next year  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on November 08, 2023, 08:48:57 AM
i give Glenravel a good chance of getting past Glenullin. Back to back titles for the Glen lads but a very very young side, Glenravel a good team and i think could take this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 08, 2023, 01:13:31 PM
Cargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2023, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 08, 2023, 01:13:31 PMCargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

 ;D  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on November 08, 2023, 03:23:57 PM
Considering cargin beat antrim comfortably not too long ago they will be more than fit for a glen team that has struggled through derry this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2023, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on November 08, 2023, 03:23:57 PMConsidering cargin beat antrim comfortably not too long ago they will be more than fit for a glen team that has struggled through derry this year.

Heard they bate them  ;) Bate the shit out of them  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on November 08, 2023, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2023, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on November 08, 2023, 03:23:57 PMConsidering cargin beat antrim comfortably not too long ago they will be more than fit for a glen team that has struggled through derry this year.

Heard they bate them  ;) Bate the shit out of them  ;D
You're determined to get attention on this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on November 08, 2023, 04:39:19 PM
Don't feed the troll

Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 08, 2023, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2023, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on November 08, 2023, 03:23:57 PMConsidering cargin beat antrim comfortably not too long ago they will be more than fit for a glen team that has struggled through derry this year.

Heard they bate them  ;) Bate the shit out of them  ;D
You're determined to get attention on this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2023, 05:59:42 PM
Ah I get it...

When other things happen in other clubs it's ok to 'talk' about it ..

Gotcha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 09, 2023, 08:06:39 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 08, 2023, 01:13:31 PMCargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

No way Cargin will try and play everyone behind the ball and slow the game down back and across the pitch? They just wouldn't do that! They play the game as it is supposed to be played. They wouldn't revert to those sort of tactics.

MR2 had to have a couple of bites of the cherry to get a response on that one. And still didn't lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2023, 10:47:03 AM
You'd have to be playing those tactics all year to get used to it..

Teams in Antrim would be playing that against Cargin be interesting to see if they did switch play.

Would you rather stick to your style and die with your boots on, or stick with a defensive tactic to stifle the opposition but essentially chasing the game?

Should be a good game, still in two minds on heading down, Derry is a lot closer than it used to be
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 09, 2023, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on November 08, 2023, 03:23:57 PMConsidering cargin beat antrim comfortably not too long ago they will be more than fit for a glen team that has struggled through derry this year.

 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on November 09, 2023, 03:50:57 PM
Glen looked to be intimidated slightly against Cargin las time out, Cargin should look to play on that more. I dont know if Cargin slowing the game down would be to their benefit, Glen Slaughtneil was as slow a game as you'll get and Glen were always in control. Cargin need to be aggressive and on the front foot to have any chance of getting something from the game. The talent is there but is the belief?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on November 09, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
Rumours swirling around the whatsapps - looking like a big push from certain quarters to change the leagues to 1a/1b next year and line the championships up to suit leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 10, 2023, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 09, 2023, 08:06:39 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 08, 2023, 01:13:31 PMCargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

No way Cargin will try and play everyone behind the ball and slow the game down back and across the pitch? They just wouldn't do that! They play the game as it is supposed to be played. They wouldn't revert to those sort of tactics.

MR2 had to have a couple of bites of the cherry to get a response on that one. And still didn't lol

They will have to or Glen will destroy them with the running game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DearyMe on November 10, 2023, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 09, 2023, 03:56:15 PMRumours swirling around the whatsapps - looking like a big push from certain quarters to change the leagues to 1a/1b next year and line the championships up to suit leagues

And ensure that relegated teams who may or may not have won championships/made county finals don't end up in division 3???  Seems reasonable...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 10, 2023, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 10, 2023, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 09, 2023, 08:06:39 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 08, 2023, 01:13:31 PMCargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

No way Cargin will try and play everyone behind the ball and slow the game down back and across the pitch? They just wouldn't do that! They play the game as it is supposed to be played. They wouldn't revert to those sort of tactics.

MR2 had to have a couple of bites of the cherry to get a response on that one. And still didn't lol

They will have to or Glen will destroy them with the running game

No chance! Cargin just wouldn't do that. They'll play their swash buckling man to man game like they 'always do'. You won't see those boys with 13 or 14 men in their own defence. no way!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 10, 2023, 02:41:26 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 10, 2023, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 10, 2023, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 09, 2023, 08:06:39 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 08, 2023, 01:13:31 PMCargin will also give Glen their fill of it. need to be discipline in possession and try eat the clock and slow the pace of play

No way Cargin will try and play everyone behind the ball and slow the game down back and across the pitch? They just wouldn't do that! They play the game as it is supposed to be played. They wouldn't revert to those sort of tactics.

MR2 had to have a couple of bites of the cherry to get a response on that one. And still didn't lol

They will have to or Glen will destroy them with the running game

No chance! Cargin just wouldn't do that. They'll play their swash buckling man to man game like they 'always do'. You won't see those boys with 13 or 14 men in their own defence. no way!
Yawn yawn, yet another salty / sarcy post from the jealous St Brigids man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 10, 2023, 02:43:05 PM
We will head up to Celtic Park along with our SW neighbours Glenravel (who we will be fully behind) and fly the flag for Antrim, hopefully we do it well!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 10, 2023, 03:43:58 PM
Good luck to Cargin on Sunday. As Antrim champions I hope they represent the county well and hope that everyone within the county will be behind them despite the odd snide comment on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 10, 2023, 04:07:01 PM
There doesn't seem to be many giving either Antrim side much chance this weekend across this board. Hopefully, at least one of them can get a win and keep the flag flying for Antrim men's football for another few weeks. Good luck Cargin and Glenravel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2023, 06:57:53 PM
Cargin have a decent chance, they ain't turning up for the craic

Glenravel are up against it, this team won Derry intermediate two years in a row but not impossible
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 10, 2023, 11:05:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2023, 06:57:53 PMCargin have a decent chance, they ain't turning up for the craic

Glenravel are up against it, this team won Derry intermediate two years in a row but not impossible

Is that not as worthy of discussion as the Arva situation. Glenullin win Derry Intermediate in 2022 but get to stay in it again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2023, 12:22:34 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 10, 2023, 11:05:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2023, 06:57:53 PMCargin have a decent chance, they ain't turning up for the craic

Glenravel are up against it, this team won Derry intermediate two years in a row but not impossible

Is that not as worthy of discussion as the Arva situation. Glenullin win Derry Intermediate in 2022 but get to stay in it again?

They didn't win Ulster and opted out of senior championship, that can happen here in Antrim too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 11, 2023, 08:15:03 AM
Good luck to Cargin on Sunday

Last year they they played v defensively, literally not shooting once from play in the 1st half, but got close without ever looking like having a chance to win.

Bit like Donegal in 2011 who then tweeked to a bit more attacking in 2012 and we know what happened.

All out attacking and you might get humped like Derrygonnelly v Kilcoo there

It's a f**king tough one going up against Glen...I can't work out what to do to win it so good luck to RD!....but i would love to see a shock and a Saffron victory

As for Glenravel I wish them well but with Skinner etc I fear it could be a wipeout
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 11, 2023, 09:54:05 AM
Best of luck to both Antrim clubs as they step out in the provincial.

Cargin are in a much better place than this time last year when they looked a bit jaded after battling through in nail biters against Creggan, Aghagallon and then Glenties. Mick/Tomas/Jamie were carrying injuries back then - now they're raring to go!  Sean O Neill,  Cahir Donnelly, Benen Kelly, Tom Shivers, Conan Johnston a year older, Pat with a year of county under his belt, and then there's the addition of Conchuir Johnston who is a proper asset.

Put it this way, Ronan Devlin has a much harder job selecting his starting team this year than last. That in itself is telling.

Cargin have been eyeing this one up for months, and will go in with no fear after last years dress rehearsal where without excelling at any stage managed to hang in for the majority of the contest.

Glenravel and Glenullin I can see going to the wire as well and despite the overwhelming short odds in favour of the Derry champs in both contests, I am expecting two cliffhangers and wouldn't be surprised to see an Antrim club in the semis.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 11, 2023, 11:55:53 AM
Not sure why glenullin are such overwhelming favourites against Glenravel
People get blinded when clubs go to ulster
They assume its county v county so obviously derry are favourites
Makes no sense
Same in seniors
6-1 for cargin - madness I tbink
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 11, 2023, 05:50:45 PM
There really needs to be some consistency throughout provinces about grading of clubs. Seems bizarre that Glenullin have won Derry intermediate but here they are again in the same grade; likewise the Cavan
Div 1 team playing junior. As for Kerry, I still haven't worked that one out yet!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on November 11, 2023, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 11, 2023, 11:55:53 AMNot sure why glenullin are such overwhelming favourites against Glenravel
People get blinded when clubs go to ulster
They assume its county v county so obviously derry are favourites
Makes no sense
Same in seniors
6-1 for cargin - madness I tbink

Odds are accurate IMO. Glenravel will do ok but won't win. How Glenullin are still in Intermediate is beyond me.

Good luck to Cargin. I'm hopeful but not expectant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2023, 10:48:43 AM
That's a miserable day.. could be a dog fight in those conditions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2023, 02:06:31 PM
Not in the first game. Glenullin piling it on, into double digits! Skinner running riot....

Can Cargin restore some pride?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2023, 03:40:34 PM
Hard to see from tv coverage if that tackle by Tomas deserved a red card , Glen have been wasteful in front of goals in the first half
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2023, 04:26:38 PM
Hard luck Cargin, valiant effort with 14 men for so long
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2023, 03:40:34 PMHard to see from tv coverage if that tackle by Tomas deserved a red card , Glen have been wasteful in front of goals in the first half

Happened just in front of me. Seemed Tomas sort of lost the head a bit after losing the ball. Harsh enough red in fairness. Mick just didn't have the same influence on referee as he does elsewhere, but he tried his best! Not sure how Conor Glass stayed on the pitch at the end. Looked like Glen had another gear if required but some effort from Cargin considering 14 men for 45+ mins.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2023, 05:50:30 PM
Cargin had a go, but unfortunately came up short once again. Beat the handicap odds as expected whilst spurning enough genuine chances to bring it to the wire. Tomas red card had an influence when it was,a one point game.

Gutsy effort and definitely not disgraced in defeat, but no doubt there will be a winter of head scratching around Toome about another one that got away.

Antrim football completed for another year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 12, 2023, 07:39:37 PM
I personally came away from derry thinking antrim club football is in a better place than I had thought.  If Glen are the 2nd best team in Ireland the the top 4 or 5 in antrim are physically in a good place.  Cargin the equal of them though were visibly frustrated at a (I'll be generous and say curious) curious performance from the official. Glen were protected throughout.  A lot of positives to take from it for the county as a whole. Cargin cant seem to get the rub of the green in these last 2 ulster games.


Glenravel had a horror show on the day but a big winter awaits them. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 07:56:41 PM
Was it a red MR2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2023, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 07:56:41 PMWas it a red MR2?

Seen it, but doesn't matter if it was a soft or easy red, the ref will call it either way when a the player presents the opportunity.

Personally I'd not have given it, that said I'd be personally more inclined to give a straight red on what I see at the time...

The game was tough before with 15 on 15, I'd never send Tomas off before as he's not a 'dirty' player but that puts the brakes on how the team performs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 08:16:59 PM
I'm confused. Personally you'd not have given it, that said you give it based on what you saw at the time. What did you see at the time? Also, what has Tomas' history got to do with it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 08:19:44 PM
Sorry, not trying to be twisted. I just thought it would be a yes or no answer. It's either a red or it's not in your opinion?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2023, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 08:19:44 PMSorry, not trying to be twisted. I just thought it would be a yes or no answer. It's either a red or it's not in your opinion?

A lot of it depends primarily on  the position of the ref, so like I said from how I seen it live id tend to think it was a yellow..

Tomas is not a dirty player, some players are tackling on the edge, he doesn't
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2023, 08:48:32 PM
Looked harsh at the time, I was sitting just behind glen subs. Saw a video from the other side, and at full speed, can see why the referee went the way he did.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 12, 2023, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: bannside on November 12, 2023, 05:50:30 PMCargin had a go, but unfortunately came up short once again. Beat the handicap odds as expected whilst spurning enough genuine chances to bring it to the wire. Tomas red card had an influence when it was,a one point game.

Gutsy effort and definitely not disgraced in defeat, but no doubt there will be a winter of head scratching around Toome about another one that got away.

Antrim football completed for another year.

St pauls minors still have another game ( at least 1, but with home advantage who knows )
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 12, 2023, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 12, 2023, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2023, 03:40:34 PMHard to see from tv coverage if that tackle by Tomas deserved a red card , Glen have been wasteful in front of goals in the first half

Happened just in front of me. Seemed Tomas sort of lost the head a bit after losing the ball. Harsh enough red in fairness. Mick just didn't have the same influence on referee as he does elsewhere, but he tried his best! Not sure how Conor Glass stayed on the pitch at the end. Looked like Glen had another gear if required but some effort from Cargin considering 14 men for 45+ mins.

When you know football like Mick does maybe someone will listen to something you say.

It was never a red, full stop. Just like it was never a free for the block down for Glen's third point from Crozier I think it was. Just as it was never a yellow card never mind even a free when John Carron won the ball cleanly. Just as the ref copped out giving Glass a black card. It was a weak weak referring performance from another guy who read the pre match narrative and thought he needed to make sure the big team would win.

There's no extra gear in Glen, that's 2 years running they got out of jail against Cargin thanks in no small part to the ref.  What makes you think they have an extra gear that they didn't avail of today after the scare they got last year??

Your comments are petty and  disrespectful but hardly surprising. As other posters have stated the teams at the top of Antrim club football can hold their own in any company.  Bit of an inferiority complex going on there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2023, 09:19:22 PM
I still think the best team won on the day though, regardless of other calls, it's ok to lose a man against weaker opponents but to do that against a team that got to an All Ireland final, well it's just harder to stay in contention
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 12, 2023, 09:23:03 PM
Probably the best view of the red card incident here.

https://x.com/OrlaghMullan/status/1723808569751929049?s=20
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 12, 2023, 09:25:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2023, 09:19:22 PMI still think the best team won on the day though, regardless of other calls, it's ok to lose a man against weaker opponents but to do that against a team that got to an All Ireland final, well it's just harder to stay in contention

We will never know because of bad calls.

Glen looked like they were going to rip Cargin apart in the first 10 minutes. But that was it, Cargin played their way into it and were more than holding their own when they went down to 14 unjustly and getting a foothold in the game. They could still have went in level a man down at HT had they not missed scoreable frees.

The better team were Glen with 15 vs 14 but that should never have been the case, so you can't say that the better team won. It shouldn't have come to that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2023, 09:30:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 12, 2023, 09:23:03 PMProbably the best view of the red card incident here.

https://x.com/OrlaghMullan/status/1723808569751929049?s=20

Ah jaysus that's not a red.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 12, 2023, 09:35:26 PM
From that angle it does look like a red, very unfortunate and as MR2 says, not like Tomas at all, but you can see why that's been given if the ref's view was the same as that angle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 12, 2023, 09:42:32 PM
I think based on the initial contact it's harsh but I think there's a secondary movement with the elbow which I'm not sure makes contact. Dunno, that's a pretty good angle and zoomed in close and still not completely sure. Even the first two responses here are saying yes it is and no it isn't.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2023, 09:46:39 PM
A problem here too is that anyone here would know Tomas McCann isn't a dirty player so it probably gives you preconceptions. If it was an unknown player would you still think the same is the question I guess anyone needs ask.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on November 12, 2023, 10:02:00 PM
It was a forwards tackle/shoulder....you lift the arm up after to try and stop the player, it isn't dirty but in real time it looks like it is


Today's games went as I expected unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 12, 2023, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 09:37:14 PMOso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saul goodman on November 12, 2023, 10:55:33 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 12, 2023, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 09:37:14 PMOso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.
Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.


One thing doesn't help is the glen player is one of the smallest on the pitch. I think it looked worse than it was. Tomas was not helped in any part by the excessive rolling and head clutching of the glen player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 12, 2023, 11:00:23 PM
Ruairi McCann's was a soft red against Cargin.  Tomas's was a soft red against Glen. Swings and roundabouts. Cargin have been admired for squeezing through tight games in Antrim.  You'd have to say the same about Glen on the bigger stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on November 12, 2023, 11:20:24 PM
Big McCanns red against Cargin was not soft ,he intentionally through his elbow back and hit an opposition player in the face.
Straight forward red from any ref.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 13, 2023, 06:56:29 AM
If that's a red, croziers block is a free and carrons challenge a yellow card and o'neulls a black then we may all pack up and go home because its not football any more
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 07:41:34 AM
The challenge leaves the ref to make a decision, unfortunately for Tomas he viewed it differently to most..

Like it's not even full contact, no intent either, borderline yellow, but you'd give a yellow for the optics

It's impossible to say 15 on 15 whether Glen would still win, it just means a difficult game becomes harder to win.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2023, 08:42:09 AM
FWIW I think the red card was harsh, the tackle itself was fine but I think the arm movement at the very end would have caught the refs eye.

Glen player didnt do him any favours going down clutching the head feigning injury. Horrible aspect creeping into the game in both football and hurling.

On another note, what a joke it is that Glenullin are in that Intermediate Champ.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 08:47:50 AM
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 13, 2023, 08:56:16 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 08:47:50 AMI was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

That's absolutely 100% inaccurate. Look at curly's photos on the Saffron Gael website. No raised elbow in contact, no contact at all anywhere near the head.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 13, 2023, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 12, 2023, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 09:37:14 PMOso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.
Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

We aren't talking about the same thing. You're referring to Glen player's taking on shots under pressure from areas they might not normally shoot from and about guys taking on the shots who aren't the reliable shooters.  I call that smart defence on cargin's part.

I'm referring to Cargin missing scoreable frees and possibly still being on par going in at HT a man down.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 13, 2023, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 08:47:50 AMI was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

If you're going to come on from the Derry board at least get your facts correct. McGuckin just one of a number of Glen players who spent more time on the deck than on their feet feigning injuries.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 09:06:11 AM
Tomas' red simply wasn't a red, ref had no view of it for a start the linesman give it, Tomas movement with his arm is a natural movement with you shoulder, this talk about the elbow to the head is just false his arm moves in a natural position when taking a hit. If it is any other player on the pitch its not a red the fact McGuckian is 5 ft nothing it makes it look worse. He runs directly at tomas what else is he supposed to do get out of the road? The main reason he got sent off is where it happened on the pitch right infront of the glen supporters who all went mad. Another Point if connor Glass makes this tackle nothing would be given. Clearest decision of the day is Glass' deliberate drag down stopping a counter attack but nothing was given because it is connor glass. Besides the awful red card decision. John Carron's yellow card and the 13 yard free given against Justin Crozier was a clear indication early in the game Glen were going to get all the decisions in their favour. Strange the one people who seen it as a clear red are glen supporters or Derry people from other clubs who bum up glen which i find strange. I would be happy to see someone else from Antrim do well but not if their support is as arrogant, ignorant and fouled mouthed as that glen support. I attend alot of Derry games and have always said it their support is rotten.

Just very dishearten as Cargin supporter the performance we put in with 14 what maybe could have been with 15 on the pitch. But that's football onto next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 13, 2023, 09:23:42 AM
Cargin are at this level, of that there is no doubt.

They have got beaten by a very good team past couple of years and things certainly didn't work in their favour yesterday- rightly or wrongly.

I don't see any imminent challenge for them in Antrim which means they continue to experience Ulster and the experience of being there many years just further plants them in that mix.

Hopefully see them break serious ground very soon - they really are not far away from it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2023, 09:30:42 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 13, 2023, 09:23:42 AMCargin are at this level, of that there is no doubt.

They have got beaten by a very good team past couple of years and things certainly didn't work in their favour yesterday- rightly or wrongly.

I don't see any imminent challenge for them in Antrim which means they continue to experience Ulster and the experience of being there many years just further plants them in that mix.

Hopefully see them break serious ground very soon - they really are not far away from it.

What is their age profile?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 13, 2023, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 13, 2023, 09:23:42 AMCargin are at this level, of that there is no doubt.

They have got beaten by a very good team past couple of years and things certainly didn't work in their favour yesterday- rightly or wrongly.

I don't see any imminent challenge for them in Antrim which means they continue to experience Ulster and the experience of being there many years just further plants them in that mix.

Hopefully see them break serious ground very soon - they really are not far away from it.

They need to start winning games. They have won 7 of the last 9 Antrim championships, but only won 1 game in Ulster. That's not a dig either, just with Kobo, Crozier, Laverty, Tomas, mick, Paul, Gerard McCann all ageing, Cargin won't be getting any closer year on year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on November 13, 2023, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 07:41:34 AMThe challenge leaves the ref to make a decision, unfortunately for Tomas he viewed it differently to most..

Like it's not even full contact, no intent either, borderline yellow, but you'd give a yellow for the optics

It's impossible to say 15 on 15 whether Glen would still win, it just means a difficult game becomes harder to win.



Does intent come into the referee's assessment of the seriousness of the offence.  The lifting of the elbow doesn't look good - I'm just wondering if the fact that it didn't make contact with the player make any difference?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 13, 2023, 10:33:36 AM
Yes, the age profile is high but they also have some fantastic youth.

But the youth are also experiencing championship wins and continually playing Ulster.

And yes they have had a lot of goes without making headway and maybe the aforementioned ageing (combined with much experience) might mean they are at their peak right now and this is as good as it gets.

But hopefully not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on November 13, 2023, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 07:41:34 AMThe challenge leaves the ref to make a decision, unfortunately for Tomas he viewed it differently to most..

Like it's not even full contact, no intent either, borderline yellow, but you'd give a yellow for the optics

It's impossible to say 15 on 15 whether Glen would still win, it just means a difficult game becomes harder to win.



Does intent come into the referee's assessment of the seriousness of the offence.  The lifting of the elbow doesn't look good - I'm just wondering if the fact that it didn't make contact with the player make any difference?

For me, and not taking in the actual rule being head contact with fist elbow arm is a red card offence, the intent means he's done it deliberately, if it's because a player slipped and the collision was accidental or unintentional like this one seemed to be, then it's not a red, for me, for optics, as I said I'd give a yellow, explain why to both players and move on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on November 13, 2023, 10:52:28 AM
Looking this in slow motion there is no head contact

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/gaelic-games/67399351 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/gaelic-games/67399351)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 13, 2023, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on November 13, 2023, 09:23:42 AMCargin are at this level, of that there is no doubt.

They have got beaten by a very good team past couple of years and things certainly didn't work in their favour yesterday- rightly or wrongly.

I don't see any imminent challenge for them in Antrim which means they continue to experience Ulster and the experience of being there many years just further plants them in that mix.

Hopefully see them break serious ground very soon - they really are not far away from it.

They need to start winning games. They have won 7 of the last 9 Antrim championships, but only won 1 game in Ulster. That's not a dig either, just with Kobo, Crozier, Laverty, Tomas, mick, Paul, Gerard McCann all ageing, Cargin won't be getting any closer year on year.

Cargin's record isn't great in Ulster but outside of 2016 and 2019, we have been knocked out by the eventual winners and will likely be the same case this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 09:06:11 AMTomas' red simply wasn't a red, ref had no view of it for a start the linesman give it, Tomas movement with his arm is a natural movement with you shoulder, this talk about the elbow to the head is just false his arm moves in a natural position when taking a hit. If it is any other player on the pitch its not a red the fact McGuckian is 5 ft nothing it makes it look worse. He runs directly at tomas what else is he supposed to do get out of the road? The main reason he got sent off is where it happened on the pitch right infront of the glen supporters who all went mad. Another Point if connor Glass makes this tackle nothing would be given. Clearest decision of the day is Glass' deliberate drag down stopping a counter attack but nothing was given because it is connor glass. Besides the awful red card decision. John Carron's yellow card and the 13 yard free given against Justin Crozier was a clear indication early in the game Glen were going to get all the decisions in their favour. Strange the one people who seen it as a clear red are glen supporters or Derry people from other clubs who bum up glen which i find strange. I would be happy to see someone else from Antrim do well but not if their support is as arrogant, ignorant and fouled mouthed as that glen support. I attend alot of Derry games and have always said it their support is rotten.

Just very dishearten as Cargin supporter the performance we put in with 14 what maybe could have been with 15 on the pitch. But that's football onto next year.

You must not be at any of the games I do  ;D  Baldy wee cnut seems to be the staple language  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 13, 2023, 10:57:37 AM
Apart from the Covid year where they couldn't compete they have generally pulled the winner of ulster out of the bag unfortunately.  Of all of them i would say Derrygonnelly was the one they'd be disappointed with but were patched up with a lot of injuries. Possibly Killyclogher. Gweedore, Crossmaglen and Glen all eventual winners.  Cargin have the measure of Glen. 

Still think the club scene in Antrim isn't far away.  aside from Cargin's obvious anger, it goes to show that Antrim club football is in the same company as the best in ulster.     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 11:00:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 10:55:20 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 09:06:11 AMTomas' red simply wasn't a red, ref had no view of it for a start the linesman give it, Tomas movement with his arm is a natural movement with you shoulder, this talk about the elbow to the head is just false his arm moves in a natural position when taking a hit. If it is any other player on the pitch its not a red the fact McGuckian is 5 ft nothing it makes it look worse. He runs directly at tomas what else is he supposed to do get out of the road? The main reason he got sent off is where it happened on the pitch right infront of the glen supporters who all went mad. Another Point if connor Glass makes this tackle nothing would be given. Clearest decision of the day is Glass' deliberate drag down stopping a counter attack but nothing was given because it is connor glass. Besides the awful red card decision. John Carron's yellow card and the 13 yard free given against Justin Crozier was a clear indication early in the game Glen were going to get all the decisions in their favour. Strange the one people who seen it as a clear red are glen supporters or Derry people from other clubs who bum up glen which i find strange. I would be happy to see someone else from Antrim do well but not if their support is as arrogant, ignorant and fouled mouthed as that glen support. I attend alot of Derry games and have always said it their support is rotten.

Just very dishearten as Cargin supporter the performance we put in with 14 what maybe could have been with 15 on the pitch. But that's football onto next year.

You must not be at any of the games I do  ;D  Baldy wee cnut seems to be the staple language  ;D

Come on MR2 I would not shout such a thing :-X  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 13, 2023, 11:04:29 AM
Will Cargin lose any of that squad after yesterdays defeat? Take Close out of it and all their substitutions were young lads. Bodes well for them going forward. Plenty of competition in Antrim but hard to see anyone knock them off their perch.

Heard yesterday Karl McCabe staying with St Endas.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 11:06:22 AM
When did Killyclogher win?

What I do notice in Ulster or further on, is the refereeing is totally different to what you are used too (good or bad)

Good prep would be to have games ref'd by the Ulster/national referee's in challenge games leading up to an Ulster run, Cargin have to gamble in that regard and should always be preparing for Ulster, rather than just winning Antrim, that may come across as being arrogant, but the reality is, at the minute, there isn't much to beat in Antrim.

Intercounty referee's are constantly being assessed, those assessments determine whether he gets another game, yellow cards that you wouldn't get in league games with 'normal' ref's will happen in the Ulster games.. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 11:06:22 AMWhen did Killyclogher win?

What I do notice in Ulster or further on, is the refereeing is totally different to what you are used too (good or bad)

Good prep would be to have games ref'd by the Ulster/national referee's in challenge games leading up to an Ulster run, Cargin have to gamble in that regard and should always be preparing for Ulster, rather than just winning Antrim, that may come across as being arrogant, but the reality is, at the minute, there isn't much to beat in Antrim.

Intercounty referee's are constantly being assessed, those assessments determine whether he gets another game, yellow cards that you wouldn't get in league games with 'normal' ref's will happen in the Ulster games.. 



They didnt, slaughtneil beat them in 2016.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 11:37:37 AM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 11:06:22 AMWhen did Killyclogher win?

What I do notice in Ulster or further on, is the refereeing is totally different to what you are used too (good or bad)

Good prep would be to have games ref'd by the Ulster/national referee's in challenge games leading up to an Ulster run, Cargin have to gamble in that regard and should always be preparing for Ulster, rather than just winning Antrim, that may come across as being arrogant, but the reality is, at the minute, there isn't much to beat in Antrim.

Intercounty referee's are constantly being assessed, those assessments determine whether he gets another game, yellow cards that you wouldn't get in league games with 'normal' ref's will happen in the Ulster games.. 



They didnt, slaughtneil beat them in 2016.

Must have misread Spikes post..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 13, 2023, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2023, 11:06:22 AMWhen did Killyclogher win?

What I do notice in Ulster or further on, is the refereeing is totally different to what you are used too (good or bad)

Good prep would be to have games ref'd by the Ulster/national referee's in challenge games leading up to an Ulster run, Cargin have to gamble in that regard and should always be preparing for Ulster, rather than just winning Antrim, that may come across as being arrogant, but the reality is, at the minute, there isn't much to beat in Antrim.

Intercounty referee's are constantly being assessed, those assessments determine whether he gets another game, yellow cards that you wouldn't get in league games with 'normal' ref's will happen in the Ulster games.. 



Yeah I am forever hearing about how our referees in Antrim are too fussy and it does not prepare us for the hard hits etc in Ulster.

I don't see that at all.  Referees in Ulster, if anything, seem to get sucked into giving a lot of soft frees and cards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 13, 2023, 03:17:54 PM
Cargin pushed Glen two years in a row.  Antrim pushed Meath in Croke Park.  I think St Paul's minors will do ok in their Ulster Tournament.  We're not world beaters but we're inching forward overall despite some seismic underage defeats.  Half a dozen clubs have worked very hard to push for the top and hopefully another half a dozen will follow suit.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 13, 2023, 04:32:20 PM
Bit of belief possibly lacking amount antrim teams(cargin aside)

Glenravel looked overwhelmed whereas glenullin looked like seasoned campaigners(which i suppose they are) 1st half, along with Cargin missed too many kicks. Unsure how Fyfe never got a run at the county. Link up play is very good and can score easily
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 06:26:44 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 13, 2023, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 12, 2023, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 09:37:14 PMOso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.
Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

We aren't talking about the same thing. You're referring to Glen player's taking on shots under pressure from areas they might not normally shoot from and about guys taking on the shots who aren't the reliable shooters.  I call that smart defence on cargin's part.

I'm referring to Cargin missing scoreable frees and possibly still being on par going in at HT a man down.


Cargin scored twice from play. Shivers had 2 frees that he should have nailed. Glen left another 5 easy scores from very kickable positions in the first half alone. It was a 4 point hammering.
Cargin just didn't show enough ambition going forward to win any of the two games. It was all about containment
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2023, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 06:26:44 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 13, 2023, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 12, 2023, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 12, 2023, 09:37:14 PMOso, I appreciate your frustrations are very raw but you are presenting an entirely one-sided view of the game. Don't take that personally btw, we're all guilty of it and it's human nature to focus solely on what went against you.

I'm not from Cargin! Why would my frustrations be raw? I'm calling it as I see it.

I follow all Antrim teams in Ulster.  But the referring and the agenda today just wasn't good enough.
Then it's odd. Some things went against Cargin today but no doubt Glen have a lock of things they could point to as well.
I mean, you point out that Cargin missed a couple of scoreable frees in the first half but don't mention that Glen missed a bagful of scoreable chances in the same period.
The sending off of Tomas was unfortunate. My view on it was through a screen and I have seen the different replays. While those aren't great and render it somewhat inconclusive, it's definitely understandable how the ref could have viewed it as a raised elbow to the face. Whether that is 100% accurate or not, it's not a ridiculous decision.

We aren't talking about the same thing. You're referring to Glen player's taking on shots under pressure from areas they might not normally shoot from and about guys taking on the shots who aren't the reliable shooters.  I call that smart defence on cargin's part.

I'm referring to Cargin missing scoreable frees and possibly still being on par going in at HT a man down.


Cargin scored twice from play. Shivers had 2 frees that he should have nailed. Glen left another 5 easy scores from very kickable positions in the first half alone. It was a 4 point hammering.
Cargin just didn't show enough ambition going forward to win any of the two games. It was all about containment
Four point hammering you say and yet  you feel the need to come on here and explain it, you don't think O Rourke would have liked to hammer Cargin last year and this year and would of done so if he could, like he did to Mfelt, Bellaghy and every other Derry team in the last 2-3 years?
Go and enjoy your victory and with the sort of protection Glen are getting from officials you will walk to an All Ireland title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 06:56:54 PM
Haha, you Cargin boys are shocking.
Suppose every other team that beat you every other year were being protected too? 1 win in Ulster and you would swear your one of the top teams. If Glen wanted to hammer you, they would have. All we needed to do was beat you and move onto the next round, simple as that. Them lads are building for bigger challenges. Now just enjoy your Antrim championship and be happy with it, you were never gonna win Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 13, 2023, 07:11:11 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 06:56:54 PMHaha, you Cargin boys are shocking.
Suppose every other team that beat you every other year were being protected too? 1 win in Ulster and you would swear your one of the top teams. If Glen wanted to hammer you, they would have. All we needed to do was beat you and move onto the next round, simple as that. Them lads are building for bigger challenges. Now just enjoy your Antrim championship and be happy with it, you were never gonna win Ulster
After all the success Glen have had and that's your first post on the discussion board, Jesus what an honour for Cargin  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 07:22:53 PM
Yep, I tend to just read the posts and see what's happening around the counties. But from reading this thread the past day, you would swear this game was stolen from you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 13, 2023, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 06:56:54 PMHaha, you Cargin boys are shocking.
Suppose every other team that beat you every other year were being protected too? 1 win in Ulster and you would swear your one of the top teams. If Glen wanted to hammer you, they would have. All we needed to do was beat you and move onto the next round, simple as that. Them lads are building for bigger challenges. Now just enjoy your Antrim championship and be happy with it, you were never gonna win Ulster


Glen have had 2 goes at 'hammering' Cargin now and it hasn't materialised yet. Yesterday they couldn't manage it playing two thirds of the game with an extra man and Cargin unjustly having their best forward who'd started well sent off.  You may well hammer the rest of the Derry club teams, but maybe your much lauded club scene isn't just as good as you think it is.

Glen players lying around holding their heads after no contact (Tomas' red and John Carrons yellow) was a total embarrassment from Derrys best club team.  This from a team and a club who whinged like babies and wanted a replay for a guy not interfering with play on the pitch for a few seconds last season.  Class act on and off the pitch it seems!!!

Let's see how that building for bigger challenges goes. There will come a point when you're not the precieved big match favourite beforehand and you won't have a weak referee out is his depth pandering to you. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 13, 2023, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 13, 2023, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 06:56:54 PMHaha, you Cargin boys are shocking.
Suppose every other team that beat you every other year were being protected too? 1 win in Ulster and you would swear your one of the top teams. If Glen wanted to hammer you, they would have. All we needed to do was beat you and move onto the next round, simple as that. Them lads are building for bigger challenges. Now just enjoy your Antrim championship and be happy with it, you were never gonna win Ulster


Glen have had 2 goes at 'hammering' Cargin now and it hasn't materialised yet. Yesterday they couldn't manage it playing two thirds of the game with an extra man and Cargin unjustly having their best forward who'd started well sent off.  You may well hammer the rest of the Derry club teams, but maybe your much lauded club scene isn't just as good as you think it is.

Glen players lying around holding their heads after no contact (Tomas' red and John Carrons yellow) was a total embarrassment from Derrys best club team.  This from a team and a club who whinged like babies and wanted a replay for a guy not interfering with play on the pitch for a few seconds last season.  Class act on and off the pitch it seems!!!

Let's see how that building for bigger challenges goes. There will come a point when you're not the precieved big match favourite beforehand and you won't have a weak referee out is his depth pandering to you.

Go easy on the Watty boy he has to finish his homework...
Sure his team have won an amazing 3 county titles and are chasing the likes of Bellaghy and Ballinderry.....who were real champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the goal was on on November 13, 2023, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 13, 2023, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 06:56:54 PMHaha, you Cargin boys are shocking.
Suppose every other team that beat you every other year were being protected too? 1 win in Ulster and you would swear your one of the top teams. If Glen wanted to hammer you, they would have. All we needed to do was beat you and move onto the next round, simple as that. Them lads are building for bigger challenges. Now just enjoy your Antrim championship and be happy with it, you were never gonna win Ulster

Glen have had 2 goes at 'hammering' Cargin now and it hasn't materialised yet. Yesterday they couldn't manage it playing two thirds of the game with an extra man and Cargin unjustly having their best forward who'd started well sent off.  You may well hammer the rest of the Derry club teams, but maybe your much lauded club scene isn't just as good as you think it is.

Glen players lying around holding their heads after no contact (Tomas' red and John Carrons yellow) was a total embarrassment from Derrys best club team.  This from a team and a club who whinged like babies and wanted a replay for a guy not interfering with play on the pitch for a few seconds last season.  Class act on and off the pitch it seems!!!

Let's see how that building for bigger challenges goes. There will come a point when you're not the precieved big match favourite beforehand and you won't have a weak referee out is his depth pandering to you.

Watched game back and whilst cargin are a good team, Glen could have won the game by 6/7 points . Had 3 good goal chances and could have had another from the throw in. They also kicked a lot of bad wides. Cargin kickout was there main weapon but glen did well on that. When cargin went short they struggled to get up the field into good scoring positions. Shivers in full forward offered very little. Looked like he was carrying an  injury as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 09:52:51 PM
As I said, we just needed to do enough, we had no need to go out and prove a point by hammering you. He was sent off for a dangerous tackle, end off. You can cry about it all you want, but that's a red card all day, you can't lead with the elbow. Our club scene is like everybody else's, there a top 2 or 3 teams and the there's the rest.

I'm not a fan of the holding heads and rolling around, but it's a part of the game regardless, every team in the country  is doing it. Cargin can act like they're playing the game the correct way, but in reality they've been out done and out smarted every time they step out of antrim.

Class act? I suppose McCann going to the Irish news to cry about his red card is a class act aswell then? You can say all.you want about how we handled our business earlier on in the year, but the GAA needed called out for they're incompetence.

No doubt we will come up against better teams at some point, but we'll give any team in Ireland a game. Were in a good place and we're enjoying it.

And as for the comment on Bellaghy and Ballinderry, you correct, they were great champions. Just like St.Galls were. You boys could only dream of replicating what they did. But we have a realistic chance of going all the way. Unlike Cargin.

Now away and see if any other papers will listen tom ye moan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 10:27:27 PM
Cargin learnt nothing from last year. What's the point it just trying to contain Glen? 2 points from play this year, similar last year. Why not have a cut if your players are as talented as you say they are? Some bit of whinging this year and last. If that's the height of your ambition; to limit Glen to a 4 point defeat, then you're never going to get past a first round in ulster. As for us, this is all new territory and we'll enjoy our moment on the sun as we know we'll fall back into the pack like every other club does. I'm enjoying the ride so far, we'll see where it ends. Not playing that well this year but just about doing enough. Our wide count yesterday is worrying as they were from good positions and under minimal pressure. We won't get away with that down the line. Scotstown looking like the firm team, that was a big scalp to take yesterday. 9 county players, jack mccarron now transferred in, they'll be hard to stop I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 13, 2023, 10:37:53 PM
Think cargin need to move on. It's done, poor decision but crying on twitter for an apology from the ref won't change a lot
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 13, 2023, 10:42:48 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2023/11/12/213299/amp/

Please see 4th image of link exact moment contact is made, very clear no contact was made with the player at all. So all this elbow to the head bullshit can stop. No red. We have every right to feel hard done going by that image.

As for Tomas' I highly doubt he went to the Irish news looking to moan.

Onto next year. As for glen can't see them getting beat in ulster but unsure if they can topple the crokes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2023, 11:15:03 PM
I may know f#ck all squared about gaelic football but I will say that if we end up with an Ulster final of Glen v Scotstown, it will be worth watching. The Monaghan champions very impressive yesterday and be a big test for anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 13, 2023, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 13, 2023, 10:00:12 PMHas Cargin ever played a match without it kicking off on here?

Nearly worse than Kilcoo.  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2023, 07:19:03 AM
Did Sundays hollow victory touch a nerve with the Watty support?   :D

Very little to pick out of those idiotic ramblings that bears resemblance to the match or is true but Scotstown certainly look the most interesting team in ulster at the moment.  They appear to be able to mix it both ways. The official in charge will dictate what type of match we get.   Makes for an interesting couple of semi finals. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2023, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 10:27:27 PMCargin learnt nothing from last year. What's the point it just trying to contain Glen? 2 points from play this year, similar last year. Why not have a cut if your players are as talented as you say they are? Some bit of whinging this year and last. If that's the height of your ambition; to limit Glen to a 4 point defeat, then you're never going to get past a first round in ulster. As for us, this is all new territory and we'll enjoy our moment on the sun as we know we'll fall back into the pack like every other club does. I'm enjoying the ride so far, we'll see where it ends. Not playing that well this year but just about doing enough. Our wide count yesterday is worrying as they were from good positions and under minimal pressure. We won't get away with that down the line. Scotstown looking like the firm team, that was a big scalp to take yesterday. 9 county players, jack mccarron now transferred in, they'll be hard to stop I think

Think you need to gave a word with your 'stats man' S H Cargin did score three points from play, not a lot but  Glen managed just  one more...2 from J Doherty, one each from corner back Michael Ward and Ciaran Mc Faula.
The rest from placed efforts, a few questionable.....

As for outa form players did Conor Glass get a kick at all?

Think you need to take another peek and at your recording and keep fingers crossed the Cavan man may be recalled North if Glen reach the final...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AM
On another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 14, 2023, 11:44:23 AM
What is the restructure proposals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AMOn another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AMOn another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 14, 2023, 01:14:34 PM
yes there has to be consideration for grading in these championships as realistically these some of these teams are not good enough to play at senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 14, 2023, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AMOn another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...
Divison 1b looks quite competitive, all the teams at pretty much the same level
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AMOn another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.
What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.
League football is pretty much dead now with the split season, not trying to take anything away from past or future league winners but we all know its not going to be a true reflection of teams.
Division 1b in 2024 looks pretty competitive if it happens, all the teams at the one level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PM
League football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: smort on November 14, 2023, 01:35:01 PM
Don't start the league until Antrim are out of the championship. Play regional tournaments, divisional championships or anything else to pass the time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 14, 2023, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Spike on November 14, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AMOn another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.


Obviously the outgoing chair is looking after his own and couldn'thave them relegated on his watch. Glenravel are up on merit and I've no problem with that. Some of the shenanigans that happened this year in D2 were unbelievable-even by antrim standards!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on November 14, 2023, 01:44:20 PM
What are these "shenanigans that happened this year in D2 were unbelievable" you are referring to?

Quote from: thegladiator on November 14, 2023, 01:35:38 PMSome of the shenanigans that happened this year in D2 were unbelievable-even by antrim standards!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 14, 2023, 02:32:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 14, 2023, 01:44:20 PMWhat are these "shenanigans that happened this year in D2 were unbelievable" you are referring to?

Quote from: thegladiator on November 14, 2023, 01:35:38 PMSome of the shenanigans that happened this year in D2 were unbelievable-even by antrim standards!

The season is done now and whatever I say won't make a blind bit of difference at this point. Safe to say that any trust I had in our county officers has gone and that the restructuring is not at all surprising.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on November 14, 2023, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 14, 2023, 11:01:42 AMOn another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

That is a question for the outgoing County chairman and his sidekick...could he have a vested interest...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 14, 2023, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on November 13, 2023, 09:52:51 PMAs I said, we just needed to do enough, we had no need to go out and prove a point by hammering you. He was sent off for a dangerous tackle, end off. You can cry about it all you want, but that's a red card all day, you can't lead with the elbow. Our club scene is like everybody else's, there a top 2 or 3 teams and the there's the rest.

I'm not a fan of the holding heads and rolling around, but it's a part of the game regardless, every team in the country  is doing it. Cargin can act like they're playing the game the correct way, but in reality they've been out done and out smarted every time they step out of antrim.

Class act? I suppose McCann going to the Irish news to cry about his red card is a class act aswell then? You can say all.you want about how we handled our business earlier on in the year, but the GAA needed called out for they're incompetence.

No doubt we will come up against better teams at some point, but we'll give any team in Ireland a game. Were in a good place and we're enjoying it.

And as for the comment on Bellaghy and Ballinderry, you correct, they were great champions. Just like St.Galls were. You boys could only dream of replicating what they did. But we have a realistic chance of going all the way. Unlike Cargin.

Now away and see if any other papers will listen tom ye moan

Ordinarily I could let this go, I'm not even from Cargin but....

Can you not even see the stupidity and the hypocrisy of what you've just written??

Everything you've said regarding the match is total nonsense, your stats, your analysis about just doing enough, there was 1 point in it when Cargin's best forward, who was troubling your defence, was incorrectly sent off with only a third of the match gone. You managed to win by 4 playing against 14 men for the remainder of the game.

You continue to claim that it was a red card for dangerous play despite photographic evidence since which proves he didn't lead with an elbow and he only made contact with the Glen player's arm and ball.  You say the GAA needed called out for their "incompetence" last year but you're not prepared to acknowledge everything incompetent about the Gaa on Sunday past. You can't have it both ways??? Players and clubs deserve better, not a weak referee who has decided in advance who should win and who he's not going to black card on the pre matcb favourites team regardless.

And lastly you OK your player lying on the ground feigning injury to his face in an effort to cheat the referee (photos prove he wasn't close to getting touched) because you say everyone does it?  Have you not the balls to say it's wrong and he cheated? It's not part of any game or any sport for that matter, it's cheating, and he has form.

I'm guessing you didn't make the debate team at school with your logic, or any team for that matter.

You didn't like it when the shoe was on the other foot last year agaisnt crokes for a few seconds, not playing a man down for two thirds of a game.  Be man enough to admit it was disgrace on Sunday and don't fall into the stupid brigade of just defending everything just because it's your club.  Lastly I highly doubt you'd call out Tomas Mccann or any of his brother to his face about going running to the Irish News, have you proof of this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on November 14, 2023, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2023, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 10:27:27 PMCargin learnt nothing from last year. What's the point it just trying to contain Glen? 2 points from play this year, similar last year. Why not have a cut if your players are as talented as you say they are? Some bit of whinging this year and last. If that's the height of your ambition; to limit Glen to a 4 point defeat, then you're never going to get past a first round in ulster. As for us, this is all new territory and we'll enjoy our moment on the sun as we know we'll fall back into the pack like every other club does. I'm enjoying the ride so far, we'll see where it ends. Not playing that well this year but just about doing enough. Our wide count yesterday is worrying as they were from good positions and under minimal pressure. We won't get away with that down the line. Scotstown looking like the firm team, that was a big scalp to take yesterday. 9 county players, jack mccarron now transferred in, they'll be hard to stop I think

Think you need to gave a word with your 'stats man' S H Cargin did score three points from play, not a lot but  Glen managed just  one more...2 from J Doherty, one each from corner back Michael Ward and Ciaran Mc Faula.
The rest from placed efforts, a few questionable.....

As for outa form players did Conor Glass get a kick at all?

Think you need to take another peek and at your recording and keep fingers crossed the Cavan man may be recalled North if Glen reach the final...


These are salty salty tears from the Lough shore.
Let me simplify this for you boys...you could be out there with headlamps on, playing to now, and you still wouldn't be able to score enough to beat us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 14, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

What are the proposals?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on November 14, 2023, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 13, 2023, 11:15:03 PMI may know f#ck all squared about gaelic football but I will say that if we end up with an Ulster final of Glen v Scotstown, it will be worth watching. The Monaghan champions very impressive yesterday and be a big test for anyone.
It wasn't worth replying to Brendan. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 14, 2023, 07:00:45 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 14, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

What are the proposals?

No promotion or relegation in the league for the next 3 years. Can only get promoted or relegated through championship. Round robin championship and bottom team in the 4 groups go into a relegation round robin and either one or two relegated into intermediate and div 2. Similar structure in Intermediate/Div2 and Junior/Div3.

Apparently it has a lot of backing.

Would they not be better off leaving alone this season?  Is it tampering for tampering sake?  There's no ideal league system while the county players are away from the clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2023, 07:09:26 PM
On a lighter note...

We all set for the All Star awards at The Devenish?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: themac_23 on November 14, 2023, 07:12:41 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 14, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

What are the proposals?

No promotion or relegation in the league for the next 3 years. Can only get promoted or relegated through championship. Round robin championship and bottom team in the 4 groups go into a relegation round robin and either one or two relegated into intermediate and div 2. Similar structure in Intermediate/Div2 and Junior/Div3.

Apparently it has a lot of backing.

Waste of time the league then? Literally nothing to play for in div 2 and 3, exactly what the county needs less competitive football
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on November 15, 2023, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 14, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

What are the proposals?

No promotion or relegation in the league for the next 3 years. Can only get promoted or relegated through championship. Round robin championship and bottom team in the 4 groups go into a relegation round robin and either one or two relegated into intermediate and div 2. Similar structure in Intermediate/Div2 and Junior/Div3.

Apparently it has a lot of backing.

A league with no relegation or promotion is not a league, it's a series of organised challenge matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 15, 2023, 11:59:37 AM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Definitely the Tyrone system would work better.  The league has become a farce. Squad players/fringe players with the county currently get little or no club football until the last few league games. We then kid ourselves that a round Robin section/group section in the
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...
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Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

Definitely the Tyrone system would work better.  The league has become  meaningless. Squad players/fringe players with the county currently get little or no club football until the last few league games. We then kid ourselves that a round Robin section/group section in the championship serves to develop the weaker teams and give them more meaningful games. In reality it merely leads to more meaningless games and doesn't develop anyone.

Why should a team like St Endas pay the price of having to play division 2 football simply beacause their better players committed to our county? They wouldn't have finished where they did if their county men were available.  Why would club teams support sending their better players forward to the county set up if they are seeing no game time virtually all season  and the club suffer as a consequence?


The system is set up for the big guns with the strongest squad ro win the championship year in year out and we are seeing it everywhere as a result. Same teams winning county championships all over the country year in year out except in Tyrone. The chances of a shock/upset minimised in the championship on the early rounds.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on November 15, 2023, 12:13:12 PM
A lot of insinuations about the out-going chair, these proposals will be voted on after he has left as far as I am aware so I doubt its him pushing it and more likely a central council drive. 

This 'no relegation' is a farce, we are accommodating 1% of players who play county to the detriment of the other 99% who will have to run about playing friendly games until September. The overall concept is sound but we need relegation and promotion from the leagues or else we can forget about getting any enjoyment out of club football for the majority of the year.

Start the league later, like Tyrone and go to a straight knockout championship with 1A seeded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 15, 2023, 12:19:20 PM

CK: A league with no relegation or promotion is not a league, it's a series of organised challenge matches.


Agreed.  This all seems a poorly conceived idea.  Would like to hear the positives from someone who knows what the aims are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on November 15, 2023, 12:22:33 PM
There was no promotion in the hurling leagues this year, they were a joke - unless you were threatened with relegation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 15, 2023, 01:25:58 PM
The aim of the proposal is to cut back on the number of league games senior teams have to play to the benefit of a dual County and as a result of the spilt season.
Three clubs proposed to scrap relegation in July , when they were in bother. It was knocked back then !
These proposals should be put forward for introduction in 2025 and not retrospectively after 2023 season.

1A -8 teams=14 games(reduction of 4 games)
1B - 8 = 14 games
2 - 10 = 18 games (+2)
3 -  8 = 14 games (-4) Ballycastle??

Decoupling league & championship would be useful for IFC + JFC

Div2 League winners + IFC winners promoted - bottom 2 teams in 1B relegated. Same for Div 3  & JFC.

If double winners in Div 2 or 3, have a relegation / promotion play off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 15, 2023, 01:34:56 PM
Yes, should've been for next season
Not fair on Glenravel who went all out to finish top cause only 1 team was going up, only to be joined by the 2 teams they battled with all year. Seems stupid.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AM
Any developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AMAny developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on November 16, 2023, 01:12:21 PM
The league restructuring is not down to the out going chair and his sidekick,it's being pushed ny2 LD men,Frankie boy and sorry ex LD,Jim Brady,we ourselves find ourselves relegated,if that be in div or div 1b,it won't matter, current div 2 we should probably win it,getting Carl to commit is a big Positive,JB only looking after AS interest,they couldn't win div 2,if anything going by the last few years got worse,so have no arn in senior football to they prove themselves,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on November 16, 2023, 01:12:21 PMThe league restructuring is not down to the out going chair and his sidekick,it's being pushed ny2 LD men,Frankie boy and sorry ex LD,Jim Brady,we ourselves find ourselves relegated,if that be in div or div 1b,it won't matter, current div 2 we should probably win it,getting Carl to commit is a big Positive,JB only looking after AS interest,they couldn't win div 2,if anything going by the last few years got worse,so have no arn in senior football to they prove themselves,
Teams like AS if they are involved in that, really is poor form. Go and earn your place lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 01:39:32 PM
The discussions for 2024, settled on a 16 team Division 1, with 1 round of fixtures, with 4 groups of 4 in SFC, the anomaly being Dunloy in SFC & Ballymena in IFC, as Dunloy seeded.

Going to 2025, relegation determined by SFC playoffs; bottom 4 teams in 4 groups play,  as teams would have full compliment of county players available)

Div2 League Winners & IFC promoted to Div1 for 2026.

Same set up for Div 2 / 3 places with
IFC two groups of 5. JFC - two groups of 4
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AMAny developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals

Dirty Dozen? Were there 12 involved? Salty response as you would say. Still in bad mood?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AMAny developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AMAny developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals

Dirty Dozen? Were there 12 involved? Salty response as you would say. Still in bad mood?
No the bad mood has moved on, yes I heard there were up to 12 and something like G and t states as well. IMO we are lowering the quality in Div1 by increasing the teams, which in turn will helps no one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AMAny developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 08:53:16 AMAny developments from last nights meeting in Dunsilly?
Could you not ask your club rep that was at it? I heard they were also one of the dirty dozen who organised the new proposals

Dirty Dozen? Were there 12 involved? Salty response as you would say. Still in bad mood?
No the bad mood has moved on, yes I heard there were up to 12 and something like G and t states as well. IMO we are lowering the quality in Div1 by increasing the teams, which in turn will helps no one.

Totally agree
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2023, 03:21:07 PM
On one hand you can see where they're coming from as smaller clubs will struggle without county but 16 teams in one division is far far too many.

Also I really don't think leagues with no promotion and relegation is a great idea.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 16, 2023, 03:35:27 PM
Lets be totally honest the only reason what so ever this has happened is to avoid St Enda's dropping to Div 2.

There's no logical reason behind it. If anything its making the County weaker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 16, 2023, 04:09:41 PM
Antrim do not have 16 senior clubs. Absolutely no need for a 16 team senior championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 16, 2023, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 16, 2023, 03:35:27 PMLets be totally honest the only reason what so ever this has happened is to avoid St Enda's dropping to Div 2.

There's no logical reason behind it. If anything its making the County weaker.

1 man can't make that decision? There must be relegation from the league. Otherwise 15 pointless games. Bottom 2 playoff or something?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 16, 2023, 04:37:24 PM
Why are we handicapping ourselves in Ulster Junior and intermediate by adding more teams into senior that should be intermediate. That's the part that gets me and no one is flagging this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on November 16, 2023, 06:26:40 PM
These proposals are similar to the set up in Armagh albeit our relegation is through league & not championship:

SFC: 1A 8 teams 1B 8 teams
IFC: 2A 8 teams 2B 8 teams
JFC: 3A 7 teams 3B 7 teams

In theory it makes a shorter path for clubs in Intermediate & Junior to reach senior (Annaghmore & Forkhill two good examples of traditionally Junior clubs that were plying their trade at senior in the past decade).

In practice, while the 8 team leagues are fairly competitive with few hammerings, it has probably diluted the overall standard of all three championships. Like Antrim, Armagh clubs generally do not fare well on the provincial stage.

16 teams in our SFC is too much, I'd say it's also the case in Antrim. What Armagh probably needs is a Junior B competition for clubs that have genuinely no chance of winning the Junior (which is a fair few).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 06:27:08 PM
Happy days, 16 meaningless league games, should be easy to ref, as they are meaningless and the craic should be grand ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 16, 2023, 06:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 06:27:08 PMHappy days, 16 meaningless league games, should be easy to ref, as they are meaningless and the craic should be grand ;)

Saving you for the big stuff.
Sure I could maybe do a wheen as results don't matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 07:19:20 PM
I think the 16 Div 1 scenario in 2024, is a compromise for one year, as this is being implemented retrospectively.
I think it makes sense to go top 8 in 1A , next 8 in 1B, in 2025, When teams know what they are playing for with 1 up and 1 down between 1A & B.
I feel that relegation via championship is a fairer outcome due to spilt season impact on clubs e.g Dunloy !!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 16, 2023, 08:20:49 PM
What I can't understand is how all this can happen
Before the start of last season, rules were in place and everyone knew them.
One up 2 down - end of

In division 2, everyone was at it hammer and tongs from the off, only 1 up

In division 1, after the split, top 6 played friendlies and bottom 7 had near championship games for fear of relegation

But now, all that didn't matter one f**k

Aldergrove and Ballymena are in division 1 and so are Moneyglass and st endas

Who's to say that this time next next year someone decides that bottom does go down and top goes up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 16, 2023, 06:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 06:27:08 PMHappy days, 16 meaningless league games, should be easy to ref, as they are meaningless and the craic should be grand ;)

Saving you for the big stuff.
Sure I could maybe do a wheen as results don't matter.

Was thinking I could do it on a high chair like they have in tennis, on the sideline, as that's the best position to see according to the supporters  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 07:19:20 PMI think the 16 Div 1 scenario in 2024, is a compromise for one year, as this is being implemented retrospectively.
I think it makes sense to go top 8 in 1A , next 8 in 1B, in 2025, When teams know what they are playing for with 1 up and 1 down between 1A & B.
I feel that relegation via championship is a fairer outcome due to spilt season impact on clubs e.g Dunloy !!!
You seem well versed on it. Rewarding teams with a place in Division 1 who were either relegated or failed to get promoted stinks, no matter what way you spin it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 07:19:20 PMI think the 16 Div 1 scenario in 2024, is a compromise for one year, as this is being implemented retrospectively.
I think it makes sense to go top 8 in 1A , next 8 in 1B, in 2025, When teams know what they are playing for with 1 up and 1 down between 1A & B.
I feel that relegation via championship is a fairer outcome due to spilt season impact on clubs e.g Dunloy !!!
You seem well versed on it. Rewarding teams with a place in Division 1 who were either relegated or failed to get promoted stinks, no matter what way you spin it.

Sure the league (we are led to believe by many) is just for playing in..

Some teams last year had hardly any first team players on
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on November 16, 2023, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 07:19:20 PMI think the 16 Div 1 scenario in 2024, is a compromise for one year, as this is being implemented retrospectively.
I think it makes sense to go top 8 in 1A , next 8 in 1B, in 2025, When teams know what they are playing for with 1 up and 1 down between 1A & B.
I feel that relegation via championship is a fairer outcome due to spilt season impact on clubs e.g Dunloy !!!
You seem well versed on it. Rewarding teams with a place in Division 1 who were either relegated or failed to get promoted stinks, no matter what way you spin it.

Sure the league (we are led to believe by many) is just for playing in..

Some teams last year had hardly any first team players on

I don't personal agree with 16 ×  Div1 structure for 2024, I would've went 1A and 1B in 2024, for increased competitiveness with promotion & relegation between 1A & B
Leagues being restructured was on CCC agenda from February 2023, a group of clubs combined to make a proposal.
How this goes down at Convention remains to be seen...heard CB not very happy with process involved hence meeting on 21st !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 16, 2023, 10:04:33 PM
PowerPoint presentations for the 12-14 clubs handpicked! Scandalous! What's next??? Who is responsible??? Our invitation must still be in the post.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2023, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 16, 2023, 10:04:33 PMPowerPoint presentations for the 12-14 clubs handpicked! Scandalous! What's next??? Who is responsible??? Our invitation must still be in the post.

I heard they were looking to invite the Down teams from Belfast district
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 16, 2023, 10:18:41 PM
Was your club at it? We didn't get the memo about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 10:46:57 PM
If you look at the motions 2 - 4 for convention, you'll see the main movers & shakers alongside the chief admin officer !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 16, 2023, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 16, 2023, 10:46:57 PMIf you look at the motions 2 - 4 for convention, you'll see the main movers & shakers alongside the chief admin officer !

Will they get away with the breakaway?  Surely not. Chief admin pulling moves .
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 17, 2023, 09:20:54 AM
For competativness we need 4 leagues. The 16 split in 2 groups of 8. Cargin reserves would probably give Ballymena or Aldergrove a good game. Moneyglass apparently depleated this year. Absolutly pointless

Id also throw in an argument for a junior B competition added to the football like the hurling. With possibly an early format with the winner promoted to junior for that year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2023, 09:26:00 AM
Agree with this NorthAntrim. I think the junior B in hurling has been very good and with the new teams etc in division 3 football it would give some of them a chance to win silverware which would be great for them.

3 divisions is probably not enough regardless of the size of division 1.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on November 17, 2023, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2023, 09:26:00 AMAgree with this NorthAntrim. I think the junior B in hurling has been very good and with the new teams etc in division 3 football it would give some of them a chance to win silverware which would be great for them.

3 divisions is probably not enough regardless of the size of division 1.

16 teams in div 1 is completely inflated.I genuinely cant believe it'll get voted through.
 I think looking at the idea of junior B is a good idea, does seem to work well in hurling in previous years where it fed into the Junior proper.

we currently have 35 clubs (including Ballycastle)

3 divisions of 10 and a division with the other 5 and also invite clubs who wish to put in a 3rd or reserve team in can do so. for example, im sure some div 1 clubs would prefer to play their reserves in div 4 rather than a div 1 reserve.

link the league to championships, league winner goes up along with championship winner, if that is the same team then 2nd bottom in the higher league plays 2nd in lower league to see who goes up/ down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on November 17, 2023, 10:25:40 AM
I think it would be better as follows

1A - Senior Championship
1B - Intermediate Championship
2A - Junior Championship
2B - Junior B Championship

Winners of leagues get promoted, winners of champs get promoted. Play everyone home and away in the league. Push the leagues to start later with the Championship being a straight knock out. Antrim leagues would be then more reflective of standards in Ulster. Each of those leagues in their own right would be highly competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on November 17, 2023, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 17, 2023, 10:25:40 AMI think it would be better as follows

1A - Senior Championship
1B - Intermediate Championship
2A - Junior Championship
2B - Junior B Championship

Winners of leagues get promoted, winners of champs get promoted. Play everyone home and away in the league. Push the leagues to start later with the Championship being a straight knock out. Antrim leagues would be then more reflective of standards in Ulster. Each of those leagues in their own right would be highly competitive.

But realistically we wouldnt be doing that, be uproar if we went from a 12? SFC to 8 (1a) and so on, with that restructure you'd be dropping 4 clubs to IFC then 8 or so from iFC to JFC, couldn't see clubs going for it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on November 17, 2023, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on November 17, 2023, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 17, 2023, 10:25:40 AMI think it would be better as follows

1A - Senior Championship
1B - Intermediate Championship
2A - Junior Championship
2B - Junior B Championship

Winners of leagues get promoted, winners of champs get promoted. Play everyone home and away in the league. Push the leagues to start later with the Championship being a straight knock out. Antrim leagues would be then more reflective of standards in Ulster. Each of those leagues in their own right would be highly competitive.

But realistically we wouldnt be doing that, be uproar if we went from a 12? SFC to 8 (1a) and so on, with that restructure you'd be dropping 4 clubs to IFC then 8 or so from IFC to JFC, couldn't see clubs going for it

Agree it would be unlikely to get voted through but this approach makes a lot of sense to me. Smaller, competitive leagues is the way to improve overall standards, not adding more intermediate level teams into the top division.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 17, 2023, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 17, 2023, 10:25:40 AMI think it would be better as follows

1A - Senior Championship
1B - Intermediate Championship
2A - Junior Championship
2B - Junior B Championship

Winners of leagues get promoted, winners of champs get promoted. Play everyone home and away in the league. Push the leagues to start later with the Championship being a straight knock out. Antrim leagues would be then more reflective of standards in Ulster. Each of those leagues in their own right would be highly competitive.

This is best for me. Would raise standards in ulster. Would make everything more competative and may also revive some teams. Mitchels still play south antrim? They may come back into a junior B
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2023, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 17, 2023, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on November 17, 2023, 10:25:40 AMI think it would be better as follows

1A - Senior Championship
1B - Intermediate Championship
2A - Junior Championship
2B - Junior B Championship

Winners of leagues get promoted, winners of champs get promoted. Play everyone home and away in the league. Push the leagues to start later with the Championship being a straight knock out. Antrim leagues would be then more reflective of standards in Ulster. Each of those leagues in their own right would be highly competitive.

This is best for me. Would raise standards in ulster. Would make everything more competative and may also revive some teams. Mitchels still play south antrim? They may come back into a junior B

Mitchells? Jesus most of their players would be older than me I'd say!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2023, 01:47:09 PM
i think they're finished are they not?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 17, 2023, 02:14:07 PM
Ive no idea. Why i asked. Dont think clubs 3rds is a good idea in junior b
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 17, 2023, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2023, 01:47:09 PMi think they're finished are they not?
Mitchells play in SA Div2 football league, fielding a younger team than MR is, for sure, and winning games too!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on November 17, 2023, 06:38:25 PM
As I stated,this has nothing to do with Ciaran MC,this is purely on Quinn and Brady we are at our level now which is div 2,moneyglass being weakened shouldn't be in div 1 either proving by results this year when they were full strength,so how can any man tell me aldergrove and all saints deserve to be in it,when both ourselves and mg struggled and both teams are stronger than aldergrove and as
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on November 17, 2023, 07:05:49 PM
Totally agree G&T,earn your spot in the div ,both teams finished 2 & 3 in div 2 fs,look at what happened in the div 1 versus div 2 relegation/promotion game last year when Aghagallon had been on the tear most off that week and still won at a canter,that was the true barometer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 17, 2023, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on November 17, 2023, 06:38:25 PMAs I stated,this has nothing to do with Ciaran MC,this is purely on Quinn and Brady we are at our level now which is div 2,moneyglass being weakened shouldn't be in div 1 either proving by results this year when they were full strength,so how can any man tell me aldergrove and all saints deserve to be in it,when both ourselves and mg struggled and both teams are stronger than aldergrove and as

100% agree about aldergrove and Ballymena not being strong enough to compete at D1 level. No complaints about glenravel going up, they earned their shot and I wish them all the best, they were the best team in D2 by some distance. The whole league  restructuring just stinks of  personal agendas and back room deals. Is there another county in Ireland of any notable size that has nearly half their teams graded senior? It could be coincidence that the current chairman's club stands to benefit, but having been at the receiving end of some very very very curious decisions from county administration this season, I wouldn't be so sure. Does the restructuring get them out of a hole re Dunloy going to D3? Yes- half their team was gone county hurling and rightly could use that along with their championship run to argue that they are too strong for d3 and could have been challenging at the top end of D2 if they had all their players available. This isn't being done to advance football in antrim, its to soothe the ego of a few inviduals and their clubs. Increasing competition in league and championship
should lead to better players, these proposals will kill the leagues and ensure that 1 or 2wins in a convoluted  championship constitutes a successful  season. Sorry for the rant!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 17, 2023, 11:25:13 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 17, 2023, 08:38:35 PMThe proposals are to help the county and clubs that could struggle without those players. Aldergrove and All Saints getting promoted is a by product of that. Same way it would save Dunloy playing Mitchell's and Eire Og. Having no relegation is the ludicrous thing about it. Only way out of it is to reduce the number of games - 14 max in league and spread out over an extra 4-6 weeks with a condensed championship is the solution to our problems imo
14 league games seems about right for a league but it was how this has been arrived at which doesn't sit right. If these  proposals  were voted in and everyone  knew what the plan was before leagues started this year- then it might be  palatable, but the fact this appears to  be being driven for different motives isn't right. I  think that there  needs to be joined up thinking between the hurling and football fixtures to allow for county involvement. We played football up until the split this year without 3 county hurlers, did they make a difference  when they came back to us- yes! Would our league position  have been different  if we had them for the first load of games-definitely.  Dunloy were the same and no doubt other dual clubs were the same. There seems to be a need to just tick a box and get the leagues run off. D2 was done by 28th June this year. That means if you didn't  make it out of your group, you had 2 or 3 championship games in July and August and wont play again until march. How does that drive standards? We played 4 league games in 10 days in June, that's a 1/4 of our league campaign. Never mind throwing a hurling match in the mix too (although we couldn't field in the hurling due to the football being less than 24 hrs before and a players stag do taking place away). Mental.
A condensed championship (straight
knock out) and running the leagues still parallel to championship
ie  still play league games once you are out of championship, against other knocked out teams of the same division, on football championship weekends, say on a Friday night, which gives the championship  games Saturday and Sunday to get played and take "precedence" and likewise  in the hurling. Just a (rather long) thought!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on November 18, 2023, 08:50:03 AM
What must the rest off the teams think in div 2 re GNM,Davitts,Glenavy, Sarsfields,surely these teams would have gripe about this
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 18, 2023, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: 1884 on November 18, 2023, 10:00:12 AM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on November 18, 2023, 08:50:03 AMWhat must the rest off the teams think in div 2 re GNM,Davitts,Glenavy, Sarsfields,surely these teams would have gripe about this

I would have thought they are happy enough because it gives them a better league standing and chance of championship success. With a proper intermediate championship from previous years I don't see any of those teams winning it but they now will be thinking they have a great chance to win Intermediate and to break into the top table (a mighty big table) but I can see how those teams would buy into it. If you were to ask them if they wanted Div 1/Senior championship next year I don't think any of those clubs would take you up on it.

TBH the intermediate  league & championship  in both hurling and football  have been the most competitive over the last few years, so why fix something  that was not broken? It's the senior grades that weren't really competitive outside of a top 3 or 4 teams. So in order to boost that, they bring in weaker teams? Doesn't  make sense. I still stand by the belief that its to keep st endas  in D1 and not for the benefit  of football in the county, no matter  how they dress it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 18, 2023, 05:11:43 PM
Anymore management rumours around
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 18, 2023, 06:49:29 PM

https://youtu.be/FPP-dmv2V9s?si=iFObVxkm8Zuf7mF5


Well worth a watch!

A handful of men driving things on, started with Saffron Vision and those men mostly still involved, evolving through Ciaran McCavana and Donal Murphy and no doubt their outstanding influence will continue under Seamus McMullans directorship in the coming months.

The future is starting to look a lot more Saffron. Sincere congrats to all involved.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hectic on November 19, 2023, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: referee on November 17, 2023, 07:05:49 PMTotally agree G&T,earn your spot in the div ,both teams finished 2 & 3 in div 2 fs,look at what happened in the div 1 versus div 2 relegation/promotion game last year when Aghagallon had been on the tear most off that week and still won at a canter,that was the true barometer

Poor example.

Aghagllon championship team very different to their league team last year.

Had they all their players available they would have been pushing for winning division 1.

You say they had been on the tear all week but totally ignore the fact Ballymena had not played a competitive game in weeks, maybe months, when they were asked to play a Championship finalist with all the sharpness that brings. And early sending off didn't help either.

But had Ballymena been asked to play a genuine bottom Div 1 team the week after their last league fixture they would have had a really strong chance.

Teams coming up from Div 2 will struggle to break top half but if we look at it the other way round, most teams coming down to Div 2 in recent years have sunk like a stone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 18, 2023, 05:11:43 PMAnymore management rumours around


All quiet in cargin maybe on the search for new management
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 18, 2023, 05:11:43 PMAnymore management rumours around


All quiet in cargin maybe on the search for new management

Wonder does RD think he has taken them as far as he can

2 county titles isn't a bad way to bow out all the same ( if that is the case)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:13:16 PM
He's been there for a few more years under Cassidy

Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2023, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:13:16 PMHe's been there for a few more years under Cassidy

Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with

Yes but thinking of the 2 on his own, will look good on a CV
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 20, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:13:16 PMHe's been there for a few more years under Cassidy

Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with

Doesn't surprise me one of the nicest men about, you have opened a can of worms however, who was the hardest to get along with and you would have heard you had to ref and rolled your eyes.

Past managers of course couldn't be on here naming managers you don't like who are in current charge.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2023, 01:30:25 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 20, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:13:16 PMHe's been there for a few more years under Cassidy

Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with

Doesn't surprise me one of the nicest men about, you have opened a can of worms however, who was the hardest to get along with and you would have heard you had to ref and rolled your eyes.

Past managers of course couldn't be on here naming managers you don't like who are in current charge.

I'd say he could get a hand from most people on here to name them
Wouldn't need to be a,referee
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 20, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:13:16 PMHe's been there for a few more years under Cassidy

Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with

Doesn't surprise me one of the nicest men about, you have opened a can of worms however, who was the hardest to get along with and you would have heard you had to ref and rolled your eyes.

Past managers of course couldn't be on here naming managers you don't like who are in current charge.

Make some sense of that post and I'll get back to ya!

But in terms of managers being difficult, if the manager isn't questioning your calls is he even a manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 20, 2023, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 18, 2023, 05:11:43 PMAnymore management rumours around


All quiet in cargin maybe on the search for new management

Wonder does RD think he has taken them as far as he can

2 county titles isn't a bad way to bow out all the same ( if that is the case)

Have Cargin appealed Tomas red card? Will he miss the 1st Round of Ulster Club next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 20, 2023, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 18, 2023, 05:11:43 PMAnymore management rumours around


All quiet in cargin maybe on the search for new management

Wonder does RD think he has taken them as far as he can

2 county titles isn't a bad way to bow out all the same ( if that is the case)

Have Cargin appealed Tomas red card? Will he miss the 1st Round of Ulster Club next year?





He misses first game in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 20, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
1st group game or 1st knockout?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 04:43:16 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 20, 2023, 04:28:03 PM1st group game or 1st knockout?

All championship isn't it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2023, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on November 20, 2023, 04:43:16 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 20, 2023, 04:28:03 PM1st group game or 1st knockout?

All championship isn't it

So he'll miss a game which he likely wouldn't have played anyway?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 20, 2023, 07:23:40 PM
Tomas and Ronan will both be involved in our first game next season, Tomas will get his red card lifted if common sense prevails and Ronan Devlin will lead us in 2024.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 21, 2023, 08:27:06 AM
Is there an appeal launched? Be interesting to see how they view it. I'd be extremely surprised if its not lifted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:27:15 AM
As much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 21, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:27:15 AMAs much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:58:50 AM
As I have no experience of how these things are decided, however the natural lift of the elbow after the impact I suspect would be enough for the ref to justify his decision in hindsight and the ban to stick

Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 21, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:27:15 AMAs much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2023, 10:16:06 AM
His report will say that he was informed by his linesman, that on his instruction the player raised/struck his elbow to the head..

As I don't think he seen it or if he did see it then he was just confirming what he's seen..

Either way once he puts in his report that's him done, he may be asked to look at it again to see if he stands over his decision or Cargin can appeal it..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 21, 2023, 10:19:48 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:58:50 AMAs I have no experience of how these things are decided, however the natural lift of the elbow after the impact I suspect would be enough for the ref to justify his decision in hindsight and the ban to stick

Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 21, 2023, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on November 21, 2023, 09:27:15 AMAs much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.

I wouldn't imagine so, if the ref report states about the elbow and video evidence disproves it, this means the ref may have give the red card for a fair reason which he thought happened. But should be lifted because the ref was wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 21, 2023, 11:35:02 AM
Jesus time to get over the red card ...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 21, 2023, 12:35:37 PM
I think it'll be appealed over the principle. Will Tomas start away in championship v Aldergrove or Glenravel next year. Probably not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2023, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2023, 11:35:02 AMJesus time to get over the red card ...

Free the Toome 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 21, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2023, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2023, 11:35:02 AMJesus time to get over the red card ...

Free the Toome 1

Toome wan do you not mean......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2023, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 21, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2023, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2023, 11:35:02 AMJesus time to get over the red card ...

Free the Toome 1

Toome wan do you not mean......

Live in the town myself so can't slag the accent too much!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 21, 2023, 03:52:41 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2023, 03:05:13 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 21, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 21, 2023, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 21, 2023, 11:35:02 AMJesus time to get over the red card ...

Free the Toome 1

Toome wan do you not mean......

Live in the town myself so can't slag the accent too much!

Half of my wives extended family are from there so I can  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on November 22, 2023, 11:16:29 AM
I see Justin McMahon in to work with the Defence. Should be a good addition.  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 22, 2023, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on November 22, 2023, 11:16:29 AMI see Justin McMahon in to work with the Defence. Should be a good addition.  ;D
Maybe he will tog out himself, full back a big problem position for us ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2023, 04:54:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_k4JKSXEAAGyQW?format=jpg&name=medium)

Ambitious. Do many clubs in antrim have a GPO?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 23, 2023, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2023, 04:54:32 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_k4JKSXEAAGyQW?format=jpg&name=medium)

Ambitious. Do many clubs in antrim have a GPO?

I like the bit..."or such hours required as to...the post".

E.g. You'll work all hours in the day until we win a championship.  :)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on November 23, 2023, 06:30:10 PM
Should mention player poaching in the post also..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 23, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2023, 04:54:32 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_k4JKSXEAAGyQW?format=jpg&name=medium)

Ambitious. Do many clubs in antrim have a GPO?
Can many afford one?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 23, 2023, 07:59:48 PM
Difficult to find someone to commit for a year. Possibly a Sports Studies/ GAA- UU placement student for  experience etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on November 23, 2023, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on November 23, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2023, 04:54:32 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_k4JKSXEAAGyQW?format=jpg&name=medium)

Ambitious. Do many clubs in antrim have a GPO?
Can many afford one?

No, but then most clubs have worked hard to raise the money to develop their grounds, pitches and facilities for their communities.

These guys own none of that but can afford to pay a GPO and whatever else they fork out for in terms of management. 

Remember not so long ago when they wouldn't budge on Moneyglass minor girls playing them in the minor final on a Sunday evening after having played in the ulster senior championship in Monaghan that after same afternoon. Enough said.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 23, 2023, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 23, 2023, 10:29:45 PMA lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.
It's an interesting move by them going forward, many Dublin 'Super Clubs' do this, most of them own a pitch and some changing rooms though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 24, 2023, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: thegladiator on November 23, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2023, 04:54:32 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_k4JKSXEAAGyQW?format=jpg&name=medium)

Ambitious. Do many clubs in antrim have a GPO?
Can many afford one?

The question is can they afford not to?

How much do they pay the manager and his management squad every year? If they move on after a few years, how much do they pay the next crew?

I'd ask the question - where is the best value? A GPO for a few years, working and investing in the underage and local schools etc OR an outside management team who are there for a year or two. *

*BTW, I don't know much about the club and their management structure etc. but just a general question posed to all GAA club members.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 24, 2023, 12:18:21 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 23, 2023, 10:29:45 PMA lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.

Fair comment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2023, 09:01:06 AM
If you could afford it then its the most sensible thing to do. Think I can remember a member of our club years ago that was going to front the money each year for students that could take a years placement and do this, it was a fulltime post to cover all things in the above ad, outreach in the local schools, organising games and allowing the schools to use the clubs facilities.

Yes would or could entice possible players, but was centered at primary level to get kids interested in GAA

Good luck to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 24, 2023, 09:14:45 AM
Always thought it would be a brilliant investment by a club. Think McKaigue does this at S'Neil?
Although its probably not possible financially with most clubs. Is St Brigids still a council pitch or do they own it now??

Costs to run a club now are shocking without new developments. To cut and maintain the pitches every year, fertaliser and sand is a small fortune!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 24, 2023, 10:14:09 AM
Can't see this being anything but a huge step forward for the club and Gaelic Games in the City.

Fair play to Naomh Brid, forward looking and ambitious.

Totally agree that most clubs could have this type of opportunity if they would look past the short termism of these mercenary paid coaches on the merry-go-round gravy train.

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on November 24, 2023, 10:14:57 AM
A bit of joined up thinking required here by St Brigids from those at the top and those at the grassroots is needed.  I think every club would love a full time GPO, a good one would be a great investment but it is contrary to the senior team who just threw 5 or 6 senior football careers in the bin to sign a pile of average Downeys from Lavey.  The two actions here appear to conflict.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 24, 2023, 10:35:44 AM
We all know clubs in the city are punching below their weight these last few years, as SW clubs step up, but what we really need is a dozen clubs all stepping up, raising the bar and producing better all round players. A rising tide lifts all boats, and fair play to St Brigids for the initiative to think outside the box a bit.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on November 24, 2023, 11:06:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 24, 2023, 10:35:44 AMWe all know clubs in the city are punching below their weight these last few years, as SW clubs step up, but what we really need is a dozen clubs all stepping up, raising the bar and producing better all round players. A rising tide lifts all boats, and fair play to St Brigids for the initiative to think outside the box a bit.

What's the story with the new development then BS?

What the plan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on November 24, 2023, 11:45:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 23, 2023, 06:30:10 PMShould mention player poaching in the post also..
I think it already is - "Community Outreach"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Brendan on November 24, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 24, 2023, 09:14:45 AMAlways thought it would be a brilliant investment by a club. Think McKaigue does this at S'Neil?
Although its probably not possible financially with most clubs. Is St Brigids still a council pitch or do they own it now??

Costs to run a club now are shocking without new developments. To cut and maintain the pitches every year, fertaliser and sand is a small fortune!

He's the only GPO I know of and certainly seems the way to go instead of throwing thousands at outside managers every year, get a good club man who has been there and done it and is passionate about the club, not every club has a person as successful as McKaigue of course
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on November 24, 2023, 11:56:29 AM
The only one you know.
well there are a number in Derry now. McKaigue being the latest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2023, 11:59:43 AM
What clubs have them in Derry? How exactly do you measure whether these things are a success or not? What's your yardstick? Is it participation? (I think they are great if you can do them btw but just curious)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Brendan on November 24, 2023, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on November 24, 2023, 11:56:29 AMThe only one you know.
well there are a number in Derry now. McKaigue being the latest.

GPOs specifically employed by a Club? Was there just a big deal made of mckaigue appointment because of who he is then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 12:43:07 PM
Is a lot of that not what Gaelfast do for clubs in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 24, 2023, 12:47:15 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 24, 2023, 09:14:45 AMAlways thought it would be a brilliant investment by a club. Think McKaigue does this at S'Neil?
Although its probably not possible financially with most clubs. Is St Brigids still a council pitch or do they own it now??

Costs to run a club now are shocking without new developments. To cut and maintain the pitches every year, fertaliser and sand is a small fortune!

Better and safer investment in a GPO, in the long term, compared to a bluffer.

It's cheap in reality. Worthehile investment.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 24, 2023, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2023, 11:59:43 AMWhat clubs have them in Derry? How exactly do you measure whether these things are a success or not? What's your yardstick? Is it participation? (I think they are great if you can do them btw but just curious)

Good point.

But how does any club/coach measure success in a normal year?

Do each team do a review, then an overall one?  Year after year?

I don't think so. Teams - whose da's coach the teams, take the training to the end of year, then the players move on.

There's no joined up thinking in a lot of clubs.  Maybe in the super clubs in Dublin are a bit more orgsnised.

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 24, 2023, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: Brendan on November 24, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 24, 2023, 09:14:45 AMAlways thought it would be a brilliant investment by a club. Think McKaigue does this at S'Neil?
Although its probably not possible financially with most clubs. Is St Brigids still a council pitch or do they own it now??

Costs to run a club now are shocking without new developments. To cut and maintain the pitches every year, fertaliser and sand is a small fortune!



He's the only GPO I know of and certainly seems the way to go instead of throwing thousands at outside managers every year, get a good club man who has been there and done it and is passionate about the club, not every club has a person as successful as McKaigue of course

Mckaigue is in on a 3 year term and is paid by a sponsor.

Slaughtneil are still paying outside managers, in both football & hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 24, 2023, 01:33:08 PM
A brilliant move by St. Brigid's. Can't see how people on here can slag and think of it as a negative thing. I'd love us to have one in our club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
Shows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on November 24, 2023, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 01:45:32 PMShows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.

GPOs? Fair played to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 24, 2023, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 01:45:32 PMShows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.

GPOs? Fair played to them.

Without the official title yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2023, 02:01:12 PM
It is a common thing in the GAA so if you're slating them you're slating a lot of clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2023, 02:02:51 PM
First Ulster self funded GPO (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2018/11/15/news/dungiven-to-appoint-ulster-s-first-self-funded-club-gpo-1485288/)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Brendan on November 24, 2023, 02:28:29 PM
Quote from: toby47 on November 24, 2023, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: Brendan on November 24, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 24, 2023, 09:14:45 AMAlways thought it would be a brilliant investment by a club. Think McKaigue does this at S'Neil?
Although its probably not possible financially with most clubs. Is St Brigids still a council pitch or do they own it now??

Costs to run a club now are shocking without new developments. To cut and maintain the pitches every year, fertaliser and sand is a small fortune!



He's the only GPO I know of and certainly seems the way to go instead of throwing thousands at outside managers every year, get a good club man who has been there and done it and is passionate about the club, not every club has a person as successful as McKaigue of course

Mckaigue is in on a 3 year term and is paid by a sponsor.

Slaughtneil are still paying outside managers, in both football & hurling.

I know that's the case there was more thinking for clubs like my own who certainly couldn't afford both
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 02:31:35 PM
See they just posted two other roles:

Head of recruitment and scout covering county Derry area....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on November 24, 2023, 01:45:32 PMShows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.

But willing to pay for managers while others do it for nowt  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on November 24, 2023, 03:07:58 PM
The GPO is a great idea and would work well and I'm sure all clubs would  love to have 1, although  I think to get the full benefit  you would need to have them employed  on a 3-5 year term to get everything set up and running properly. That's probably looking a club to commit to £75k-£125k if they were paying £25k a year salary (thats probably at the low end of the scale). That's a big commitment for most clubs given the risk of the GPO quitting a year/18 months into it, especially  if the person has no connection /affinity to the club, and you might have nothing to show for it. Obviously St Brigids can afford it and good luck to them, unfortunately I don't think most clubs can afford to go down this route at this time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: North Man on November 24, 2023, 03:18:01 PM
I believe Dungiven have a full time GPO for the past 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on November 24, 2023, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: toby47 on November 24, 2023, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: Brendan on November 24, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 24, 2023, 09:14:45 AMAlways thought it would be a brilliant investment by a club. Think McKaigue does this at S'Neil?
Although its probably not possible financially with most clubs. Is St Brigids still a council pitch or do they own it now??

Costs to run a club now are shocking without new developments. To cut and maintain the pitches every year, fertaliser and sand is a small fortune!



He's the only GPO I know of and certainly seems the way to go instead of throwing thousands at outside managers every year, get a good club man who has been there and done it and is passionate about the club, not every club has a person as successful as McKaigue of course

Mckaigue is in on a 3 year term and is paid by a sponsor.

Slaughtneil are still paying outside managers, in both football & hurling.

And Camogie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on November 24, 2023, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on November 24, 2023, 03:07:58 PMThe GPO is a great idea and would work well and I'm sure all clubs would  love to have 1, although  I think to get the full benefit  you would need to have them employed  on a 3-5 year term to get everything set up and running properly. That's probably looking a club to commit to £75k-£125k if they were paying £25k a year salary (thats probably at the low end of the scale). That's a big commitment for most clubs given the risk of the GPO quitting a year/18 months into it, especially  if the person has no connection /affinity to the club, and you might have nothing to show for it. Obviously St Brigids can afford it and good luck to them, unfortunately I don't think most clubs can afford to go down this route at this time.

Slaughtneil committed 100K over 3 years, 33k per year. This was covered by 2 main sponsors. Better value for a duel club as it'll be benefiting more codes.

If it's affordable for a club, i think it's a great model for a club, if you've got the right man in & not someone who see's it as a handy job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 24, 2023, 06:41:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 12:43:07 PMIs a lot of that not what Gaelfast do for clubs in Antrim Belfast?

Fixed that for you  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 24, 2023, 06:45:37 PM
Any insider info on the latest Casement debacle?

Were Heron Bros asked to build it for the same price they tendered it at all those years ago and they told them to go and jump?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 06:51:49 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 24, 2023, 06:41:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 12:43:07 PMIs a lot of that not what Gaelfast do for clubs in Antrim Belfast?

Fixed that for you  ;)

I can't speak for everyone but I know Woody regularly runs programs in the local primary school and also ran multiple courses for the local clubs and I live nowhere near Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:02:39 PM
And that's a wrap! Casement is dead in the water. Time to build a realistic stadium for antrim or hold out for another 10 years??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2023, 08:03:28 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:02:39 PMAnd that's a wrap! Casement is dead in the water. Time to build a realistic stadium for antrim or hold out for another 10 years??

Oh have they cancelled it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:07:59 PM
It was cancelled when the clowns closed it years ago. Same guys still on the payroll. Even you as the rep can't defend this!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2023, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:07:59 PMIt was cancelled when the clowns closed it years ago. Same guys still on the payroll. Even you as the rep can't defend this!

Rep? Not sure what you mean or probably not read any of my posts regarding casement over the years, but sure continue to talk shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:35:33 PM
Talk shite.. only county in Ireland without a proper county ground. Corrigan unfit for purpose unless we all move off the banks 🙄.
Shambles!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:35:33 PMTalk shite.. only county in idle land without a proper county ground. Corrigan unfit for purpose unless we all move off the banks 🙄.
Shambles!

I don't really care about deadlines for the Euros (although probably our best chance re payment) but we need a proper county ground. If Casement isn't possible see what can be done at Dunsilly or even Ballymena then.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:46:27 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 24, 2023, 08:35:33 PMTalk shite.. only county in idle land without a proper county ground. Corrigan unfit for purpose unless we all move off the banks 🙄.
Shambles!

I don't really care about deadlines for the Euros (although probably our best chance re payment) but we need a proper county ground. If Casement isn't possible see what can be done at Dunsilly or even Ballymena then.

Dunsilly- let's pay millions to get an ambulance into it and build some toilets .


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Pjoe on November 24, 2023, 09:00:12 PM
Looks like you are in the know EOC - please inform us who paid for and built the two pitches and changing rooms at Musgrave?

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 23, 2023, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 23, 2023, 10:29:45 PMA lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.
It's an interesting move by them going forward, many Dublin 'Super Clubs' do this, most of them own a pitch and some changing rooms though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on November 25, 2023, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 24, 2023, 09:00:12 PMLooks like you are in the know EOC - please inform us who paid for and built the two pitches and changing rooms at Musgrave?

Quote from: EOC1923 on November 23, 2023, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 23, 2023, 10:29:45 PMA lot of clubs could afford one of these. Instead, however, they throw good money after bad at snake oil merchants to take their senior team that, if they they are honest with themselves, haven't a fcukin prayer of winning anything.

There are absolutely wrongs in this but it is a much better investment of club funds if you ask me.
It's an interesting move by them going forward, many Dublin 'Super Clubs' do this, most of them own a pitch and some changing rooms though

Can you point out where I said I knew who paid for the pitch you play on or changing rooms you use?
You are doing something different with the GPO that many clubs would like to be able to do, don't be so touchy about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on November 25, 2023, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 24, 2023, 11:06:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on November 24, 2023, 10:35:44 AMWe all know clubs in the city are punching below their weight these last few years, as SW clubs step up, but what we really need is a dozen clubs all stepping up, raising the bar and producing better all round players. A rising tide lifts all boats, and fair play to St Brigids for the initiative to think outside the box a bit.

What's the story with the new development then BS?

What the plan?

Sorry Nag, just seeing this!

Portglenone held an information  session  recently outlining architectural plans for the clubs ambitious development and upgrade of its facilities.

The sheer size of the project will necessitate it being done in several phases, and if/when it comes to fruition the grounds will be up there with the very best.

I scratch my head just wondering how it will be delivered, but thankfully the club has a hard core of professionals (Donal Murphy included) and individuals involved in construction, including O Boyle Construction who built Corrigan stand and Dunsilly facility, and several prominent businesses who are built into the fabric of the club.

Nothing if not ambitious round these parts!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 25, 2023, 03:26:07 PM
Bannside what are the proposed plans? Already fantastic facilities
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on November 25, 2023, 03:55:27 PM
Should just build a pile of big stands around it and send the Euros to Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on November 27, 2023, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 06:51:49 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 24, 2023, 06:41:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 24, 2023, 12:43:07 PMIs a lot of that not what Gaelfast do for clubs in Antrim Belfast?

Fixed that for you  ;)

I can't speak for everyone but I know Woody regularly runs programs in the local primary school and also ran multiple courses for the local clubs and I live nowhere near Belfast.

Ach it was only joke based on a long running topic here that they do nothing outside of Belfast, nothing serious.

I know they go round a few schools here from time to time and organise the post primary competitions, which are great for the kids.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 27, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Is this contractor shambles the final nail in the coffin for casement? surely adds a big big delay and realistically what contractor could step in and start this at the drop of a hat! A major major job! No euros no casement as well

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on November 27, 2023, 12:24:30 PM
I Didnt see this as much of a surprise originally it was a joint venture by heron and Buckingham group who were also doing the new stand at Liverpool but have sense went bust.

The fact half of the venture went bust probably left a lot of Heron's plate which they maybe couldn't commit to, no major surprise to me. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 08:01:33 PM
Our ground could do with a stand !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on November 29, 2023, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2023, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 10:27:27 PMCargin learnt nothing from last year. What's the point it just trying to contain Glen? 2 points from play this year, similar last year. Why not have a cut if your players are as talented as you say they are? Some bit of whinging this year and last. If that's the height of your ambition; to limit Glen to a 4 point defeat, then you're never going to get past a first round in ulster. As for us, this is all new territory and we'll enjoy our moment on the sun as we know we'll fall back into the pack like every other club does. I'm enjoying the ride so far, we'll see where it ends. Not playing that well this year but just about doing enough. Our wide count yesterday is worrying as they were from good positions and under minimal pressure. We won't get away with that down the line. Scotstown looking like the firm team, that was a big scalp to take yesterday. 9 county players, jack mccarron now transferred in, they'll be hard to stop I think

Think you need to gave a word with your 'stats man' S H Cargin did score three points from play, not a lot but  Glen managed just  one more...2 from J Doherty, one each from corner back Michael Ward and Ciaran Mc Faula.
The rest from placed efforts, a few questionable.....

As for outa form players did Conor Glass get a kick at all?

Think you need to take another peek and at your recording and keep fingers crossed the Cavan man may be recalled North if Glen reach the final...


Ahem.....just for the record Country Bumpkin, we scored 5 from play in the game... 2 from JD, and one each from warnock, mcfaul and Ethan Doherty. Just wanted to tidy that up for you. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Cargin only had 2 scores in the game from play....one in first half from your centre half back, and then one in the second from your sub Close. I think it's important that we try to be accurate when quoting stats.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on November 30, 2023, 12:56:12 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 29, 2023, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2023, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 10:27:27 PMCargin learnt nothing from last year. What's the point it just trying to contain Glen? 2 points from play this year, similar last year. Why not have a cut if your players are as talented as you say they are? Some bit of whinging this year and last. If that's the height of your ambition; to limit Glen to a 4 point defeat, then you're never going to get past a first round in ulster. As for us, this is all new territory and we'll enjoy our moment on the sun as we know we'll fall back into the pack like every other club does. I'm enjoying the ride so far, we'll see where it ends. Not playing that well this year but just about doing enough. Our wide count yesterday is worrying as they were from good positions and under minimal pressure. We won't get away with that down the line. Scotstown looking like the firm team, that was a big scalp to take yesterday. 9 county players, jack mccarron now transferred in, they'll be hard to stop I think

Think you need to gave a word with your 'stats man' S H Cargin did score three points from play, not a lot but  Glen managed just  one more...2 from J Doherty, one each from corner back Michael Ward and Ciaran Mc Faula.
The rest from placed efforts, a few questionable.....

As for outa form players did Conor Glass get a kick at all?

Think you need to take another peek and at your recording and keep fingers crossed the Cavan man may be recalled North if Glen reach the final...


Ahem.....just for the record Country Bumpkin, we scored 5 from play in the game... 2 from JD, and one each from warnock, mcfaul and Ethan Doherty. Just wanted to tidy that up for you. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Cargin only had 2 scores in the game from play....one in first half from your centre half back, and then one in the second from your sub Close. I think it's important that we try to be accurate when quoting stats.

f**k me like groundhog day talking about this match. get the f**k over it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on November 30, 2023, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 30, 2023, 12:56:12 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 29, 2023, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on November 14, 2023, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on November 13, 2023, 10:27:27 PMCargin learnt nothing from last year. What's the point it just trying to contain Glen? 2 points from play this year, similar last year. Why not have a cut if your players are as talented as you say they are? Some bit of whinging this year and last. If that's the height of your ambition; to limit Glen to a 4 point defeat, then you're never going to get past a first round in ulster. As for us, this is all new territory and we'll enjoy our moment on the sun as we know we'll fall back into the pack like every other club does. I'm enjoying the ride so far, we'll see where it ends. Not playing that well this year but just about doing enough. Our wide count yesterday is worrying as they were from good positions and under minimal pressure. We won't get away with that down the line. Scotstown looking like the firm team, that was a big scalp to take yesterday. 9 county players, jack mccarron now transferred in, they'll be hard to stop I think

Think you need to gave a word with your 'stats man' S H Cargin did score three points from play, not a lot but  Glen managed just  one more...2 from J Doherty, one each from corner back Michael Ward and Ciaran Mc Faula.
The rest from placed efforts, a few questionable.....

As for outa form players did Conor Glass get a kick at all?

Think you need to take another peek and at your recording and keep fingers crossed the Cavan man may be recalled North if Glen reach the final...


Ahem.....just for the record Country Bumpkin, we scored 5 from play in the game... 2 from JD, and one each from warnock, mcfaul and Ethan Doherty. Just wanted to tidy that up for you. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Cargin only had 2 scores in the game from play....one in first half from your centre half back, and then one in the second from your sub Close. I think it's important that we try to be accurate when quoting stats.

f**k me like groundhog day talking about this match. get the f**k over it

Just a wee fact check chief, keeps the record straight, otherwise people just spout shit.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 01, 2023, 12:27:24 PM
Saw a video of you the other day MR2.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0P6f0gpWu9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2023, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 01, 2023, 12:27:24 PMSaw a video of you the other day MR2.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0P6f0gpWu9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I wish!! Kicking a size 5 now would give me hamstring problems
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 04, 2023, 05:52:09 PM
quote author=Silver hill link=msg=2237786 date=1699865270]
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.
[/quote]

Silver Hill i think everyone has moved on.  Your own credibility evaporated the second you posted the above which all video and photographic evidence refutes.

Enjoy your run with Glen rather than prolonging what appears to be a niggling doubt about that side. I'm sure the derry discussion board are awaiting your wisdom
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on December 05, 2023, 09:10:57 AM
Football league restructuring deferred to January with County Committee to determine the outcome for 2024
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 05, 2023, 09:12:14 AM
So Creggan have their man an intermediate specialist
Them and Con Magees will be tasty if the leagues aren't restructured to suit the yo-yo teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 05, 2023, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 05, 2023, 09:12:14 AMSo Creggan have their man an intermediate specialist
Them and Con Magees will be tasty if the leagues aren't restructured to suit the yo-yo teams.

Would love to see it.

Although would love to see him take creggan to intermediate even more  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on December 05, 2023, 01:21:14 PM
Any news on who Glenravel will be recruiting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on December 05, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
Just heard Seán Kelly lost out at last nights convention - a massive blunder  by antrim Gaa. Can't understand how clubs made that decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 05, 2023, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 05, 2023, 01:38:27 PMJust heard Seán Kelly lost out at last nights convention - a massive blunder  by antrim Gaa. Can't understand how clubs made that decision.

"The people have spoken, the bastards"

How do you know it's a blunder ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on December 05, 2023, 01:58:54 PM
He was a great antrim gael and it will be sad to see him gone. That's it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:00:35 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 05, 2023, 01:38:27 PMJust heard Seán Kelly lost out at last nights convention - a massive blunder  by antrim Gaa. Can't understand how clubs made that decision.

What role was Sean Kelly trying to get? I don't know him well but he seems to be held in high esteem by a lot of people across all codes in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 05, 2023, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 05, 2023, 01:38:27 PMJust heard Seán Kelly lost out at last nights convention - a massive blunder  by antrim Gaa. Can't understand how clubs made that decision.


Hearing a mix up in the voting and confusion
Sean should have been asking for the count to be done again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2023, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 05, 2023, 01:21:14 PMAny news on who Glenravel will be recruiting


Alec McQuillan and Martin Mulholland is the rumour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on December 05, 2023, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on December 05, 2023, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 05, 2023, 01:38:27 PMJust heard Seán Kelly lost out at last nights convention - a massive blunder  by antrim Gaa. Can't understand how clubs made that decision.


Hearing a mix up in the voting and confusion
Sean should have been asking for the count to be done again

Sean was going for 1 of 2 Ulster Council delegates. There was no mix up,but a balls up. Collie Donnelly got 47 1st preference votes and deemed elected without reaching the quota by the administrator! There was a run off for post 2 between Sean & Kieran. Kieran won comfortably enough. The proper procedures weren't followed but the floor accepted the initial decision!
Disappointing to lose Sean.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 05, 2023, 08:57:58 PM
Would Cassidy not have fancied a go in Div 1 with Glenravel ? Can't imagine it's went down great in Glenravel. I suppose when it's a hired gun that's what can happen
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 10:25:36 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 05, 2023, 08:57:58 PMWould Cassidy not have fancied a go in Div 1 with Glenravel ? Can't imagine it's went down great in Glenravel. I suppose when it's a hired gun that's what can happen

Don't think there's much loyalty nowadays.  All about a few pound, then move on. The same in most counties.

We've had this debate/discussion before. Spend the money on the development at underage.

How much is a GPO for 2 years? In and around the local schools etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 06, 2023, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 05, 2023, 08:57:58 PMWould Cassidy not have fancied a go in Div 1 with Glenravel ? Can't imagine it's went down great in Glenravel. I suppose when it's a hired gun that's what can happen

I was told he informed the Glenravel lads recently he couldn't continue next season due to work commitments......he neglected to say it was because he would be working for another club!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2023, 05:17:09 PM
Maybe he thought they'd never find out  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on December 06, 2023, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 04, 2023, 05:52:09 PMquote author=Silver hill link=msg=2237786 date=1699865270]
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

Silver Hill i think everyone has moved on.  Your own credibility evaporated the second you posted the above which all video and photographic evidence refutes.

Enjoy your run with Glen rather than prolonging what appears to be a niggling doubt about that side. I'm sure the derry discussion board are awaiting your wisdom
[/quote]


Refutes....  :-*
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on December 07, 2023, 05:42:52 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 06, 2023, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 04, 2023, 05:52:09 PMquote author=Silver hill link=msg=2237786 date=1699865270]
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

Silver Hill i think everyone has moved on.  Your own credibility evaporated the second you posted the above which all video and photographic evidence refutes.

Enjoy your run with Glen rather than prolonging what appears to be a niggling doubt about that side. I'm sure the derry discussion board are awaiting your wisdom


Refutes....  :-*
[/quote]

It irks you because you know, but you can't admit that Glen may well not have gotten through that game with 15 Cargin men on the pitch for the duration.

Your original statement of what you say you saw is just as reliable as the linesman's on the day who's originally from Foreglen and now lives in Donegal. It just lacks any credibility at all. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 07, 2023, 09:32:30 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 06, 2023, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 05, 2023, 08:57:58 PMWould Cassidy not have fancied a go in Div 1 with Glenravel ? Can't imagine it's went down great in Glenravel. I suppose when it's a hired gun that's what can happen

I was told he informed the Glenravel lads recently he couldn't continue next season due to work commitments......he neglected to say it was because he would be working for another club!

if true thats gutless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: HealthySaff on December 08, 2023, 11:21:00 AM
That's a pity the all star games are postponed. I was looking forward to bringing the kids to it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 08, 2023, 11:21:00 AMThat's a pity the all star games are postponed. I was looking forward to bringing the kids to it.

I would not have been a nice experience for them considering the flooding in and around the Antrim area these past few days, roads closed all over the place last night on way home from work and it rained a good bit on top of that.

Can only imagine lads getting injured (Hightown springs to mind)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on December 08, 2023, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 08, 2023, 11:21:00 AMThat's a pity the all star games are postponed. I was looking forward to bringing the kids to it.

I would not have been a nice experience for them considering the flooding in and around the Antrim area these past few days, roads closed all over the place last night on way home from work and it rained a good bit on top of that.

Can only imagine lads getting injured (Hightown springs to mind)

Think it will ever go ahead?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 12:42:27 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on December 08, 2023, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 08, 2023, 11:21:00 AMThat's a pity the all star games are postponed. I was looking forward to bringing the kids to it.

I would not have been a nice experience for them considering the flooding in and around the Antrim area these past few days, roads closed all over the place last night on way home from work and it rained a good bit on top of that.

Can only imagine lads getting injured (Hightown springs to mind)

Think it will ever go ahead?
Refixed for 30 December
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2023, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 09, 2023, 10:43:44 PMHearing the paid official lost badly  in ulster today. Not the first time !

What do you lose? If you are paid?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 09:07:04 AM
Quote from: HealthySaff on December 10, 2023, 01:42:25 AMIf you get £50k + for being the most incompetent person you lose nothing .

Throwing insults behind the keyboard...

You're some pup
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on December 10, 2023, 11:50:04 AM
Magherafelt minors can feel very hard done. That pen decision was absolutely awful don't know how he's give that.

Interested to hear MR2 views
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on December 10, 2023, 11:50:04 AMMagherafelt minors can feel very hard done. That pen decision was absolutely awful don't know how he's give that.

Interested to hear MR2 views

Haven't seen it tbf..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GTP on December 10, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
Video on Jerome Quinns and St Paul's twitter. It looks like a very poor decision to give a foul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: GTP on December 10, 2023, 12:43:40 PMVideo on Jerome Quinns and St Paul's twitter. It looks like a very poor decision to give a foul.

The foul where the goal keeper takes out the player?

Give your head a wobble

Is that tackle a free on any part of the pitch?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GTP on December 10, 2023, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: GTP on December 10, 2023, 12:43:40 PMVideo on Jerome Quinns and St Paul's twitter. It looks like a very poor decision to give a foul.

The foul where the goal keeper takes out the player?

Give your head a wobble

Is that tackle a free on any part of the pitch?
I have wobbled my head a little. And in my opinion the keeper makes a save and the attacker's momentum takes him over the opposition player. I appreciate you  would know the rules better than me but a block (or save) followed by a collision does not look like a free to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 06:30:15 PM
Quote from: GTP on December 10, 2023, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: GTP on December 10, 2023, 12:43:40 PMVideo on Jerome Quinns and St Paul's twitter. It looks like a very poor decision to give a foul.

The foul where the goal keeper takes out the player?

Give your head a wobble

Is that tackle a free on any part of the pitch?
I have wobbled my head a little. And in my opinion the keeper makes a save and the attacker's momentum takes him over the opposition player. I appreciate you  would know the rules better than me but a block (or save) followed by a collision does not look like a free to me.

So outside the square a player carry's that out, the ref would in most cases say,  play on?

It's a foul, and if in the square it's a penalty.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GTP on December 10, 2023, 06:57:38 PM
I think the keeper made a save and the collision was not a foul. Obviously you feel different as did the referee. The ref only gets one look at it from whatever angle and distance away he happens to be. I'm sure the decision to award the penalty was based on a genuine belief it was a foul but I happen to disagree.
Maybe innocentbystander will re-enter the discussion since they asked your opinion and stated the decision was "absolutely awful".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: GTP on December 10, 2023, 06:57:38 PMI think the keeper made a save and the collision was not a foul. Obviously you feel different as did the referee. The ref only gets one look at it from whatever angle and distance away he happens to be. I'm sure the decision to award the penalty was based on a genuine belief it was a foul but I happen to disagree.
Maybe innocentbystander will re-enter the discussion since they asked your opinion and stated the decision was "absolutely awful".

If players are carrying out that tackle out the pitch it's a foul every time.

Not one player complains to the ref either
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 07:15:26 PMWhere was the foul?
Looks like he just plays the ball with his hands.

For me he catches player first, that's a foul, it's not a bad foul but I've watched it a couple of times and it hasn't changed how I'd call it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 07:46:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 07:42:33 PMWhat do you mean by "catches"? Touches?
I don't see that he does but IF he does it's completely incidental and certainly not deliberate.
He goes straight for the ball and plays it.

Whether it's incidental or accidental, if you play the player and not ball first it's a foul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 08:08:35 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 07:49:02 PMIs that in the rules?

He's impeded a player or made contact with a player..

You can accidentally bring a player down and it's still a free, deliberately bring him down it's a black card. In this case, for me, it's a foul, if I see that tackle on any part of the pitch it's a foul, a clumsy bad timed one.

 Certainly no malice in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GTP on December 10, 2023, 08:19:34 PM
"brilliant piece of brave goalkeeping, perfectly executed"
"Huge call for the penalty. Looked like 'keeper Karl Campbell did everything right."
Quotes from two Derry based journalists  from twitter.
And good to see that the players didn't  question the decision it wouldn't have changed it and referees don't need it.
They get enough abuse online.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 08:14:15 PMNo then...
I don't see how you can say he has impeded him.
IF he has made any contact with the attacker, it is minimal non-deliberate contact as he plays the ball. That is not prohibited in the rules. Brushing past someone's hand as you knock the ball away is not a foul.

What contact is allowed in GAA?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 08:39:45 PMIncidental contact and shoulder charge.

The only contact allowed is shoulder to shoulder.

If a player incidentally takes a player down, going in on goal (in this case) it's a penalty
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 08:39:45 PMIncidental contact and shoulder charge.

The only contact allowed is shoulder to shoulder.

If a player incidentally takes a player down, going in on goal (in this case) it's a penalty
That didn't happen.

What you saw was a not a foul, I seen a foul.

That said, with your knowledge you'd make a decent ref, if we'd more keen like you we'd have less mistakes in games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 09:00:52 PMPeople will always make mistakes in games. Players & officials. That's never going to change.

Accepting them is a great step forward though.

Yeah reflection is great. But every time I see that, it's a foul from that view, The ref puts himself in a position to make that call, the player in this case, made a clumsy attempt and left a call to be made or not.

I'd like to see it from the keepers position though, that would give you clear idea on contact
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 09:22:41 PMI entered the discussion with the question "where's the foul?"

I don't think I've had an answer to that. What are you seeing?

You say it's clumsy. It's perhaps unorthodox and he's stretching but he's executed it well within the rulebook.
You previously said that it was badly timed. I couldn't disagree more with that. The timing is exceptional.

I've said already he gets man first in my view.. I've watched it 3 or 4 times... each time he get man then ball.

He's left the ref to make a decision and he has..

If I didn't give that in a game there would be some gurning
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 10, 2023, 09:26:51 PM
Had a look at it there and obviously the angles not brilliant but it looks to me like the goalkeeper gets his hands on the ball between the player releasing the ball from his hands and kicking it with his foot. Brave goalkeeping and not a foul as I see it but a better angle may tell a different story.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 09:42:30 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 09:22:41 PMI entered the discussion with the question "where's the foul?"

I don't think I've had an answer to that. What are you seeing?

You say it's clumsy. It's perhaps unorthodox and he's stretching but he's executed it well within the rulebook.
You previously said that it was badly timed. I couldn't disagree more with that. The timing is exceptional.

I've said already he gets man first in my view.. I've watched it 3 or 4 times... each time he get man then ball.

He's left the ref to make a decision and he has..

If I didn't give that in a game there would be some gurning
What part of the attacker do you see that initial contact?
I'm not seeing it at all.

When I watched it first time, I called foul, that's the only way you can.

As I've watched it 4 times now, I'm not really changing my view on it.

Give me a different view and I'll review that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 09:50:51 PMI'm not seeing contact (definitely nothing more than minimal incidental) until the keeper blocks the ball away.
Forgive me but it's almost as if you're deciding foul without being able to pinpoint where the foul happens.
Yes, the attacker follows through with the kick causing him to fall head over shite but the keeper's tackle is done and dusted at that stage.

So you've asked, I've answered and it's not what you are looking for so you are going to keep asking? Hmmmmm

I've said I'd like to see it from behind the keeper, but from what I seen it's a contact on player first, he's not even low down on it.

Have you not seen that tackle given outfield?

I'll try that next season see how it goes lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 10:43:35 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 10:25:09 PMI know that was your original thought. But back then you thought the only contact allowed in GAA was shoulder to shoulder.
Surely that changes things?

You said shoulder charge was legal when's it not!

Shoulder on shoulder is.

Your post on incidental contact was challenging the keeper on blocking the ball!

Not the keeper challenging the forward coming in.

So the only contact allowed is shoulder on shoulder.

In the small square no contact is allowed on keeper, but a player can block his kicking the ball, if there is incidental contact during that play, it's ok..

That not even close to this discussion
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 10:52:13 PM"Charge" as in shoulder charge is defined in the rule book. Look it up. It is legal btw.

The rulebook also states that it is the only deliberate contact allowed. The word deliberate is there for a reason.

Incidental contact is quite obviously allowed.

Look, I get it. You ref for the same club(?) You've a bias here. I don't. I'm not even demanding that he should get it right. But having seen it back, it's clearly an error. You're trying to gaslight us that it's not.

He's a McDermotts man so again you're wrong, I've no bias, i watched it once and gave same call, it's not clearly an error. As for the gaslighting, wise up. I'm happy to stand over calls as I've seen them at the time, or in a lot of cases spoke to players when I've got it wrong..

I've this year alone overturned 2 red cards after being asked to review things.

I've no problems with that.

I've been asked to look at this, I've had a view on it.

If players started to incidentally take players out throughout the game then there'd be no frees!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 11:02:55 PMHe referees for McDermotts?
Talk me through that....

When McDermotts folded he picked a club, as you can't ref for no club. He's from McDermotts.

Why would I have bias? Talk me through that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 11:13:30 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 11:10:49 PMWhich club did he pick to ref for?

You're like a two year old

I've asked you why are you saying I'm biased? Are you questioning my integrity?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2023, 11:24:38 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 10, 2023, 11:18:28 PMOk, let's set the record straight then.

When I said "You ref for the same club" and you replied that I was "wrong again". I was actually right, wasn't I?

Referees have a degree of loyalty to each other. Rightly too IMO. And of all refs, those who ref for the same club would be most likely to have each other's backs. Surely that makes sense?

I'm bored, you're saying I'm biased.

That's questioning my integrity, someone gets it wrong I've no problems calling it.


He'd be refereeing for McDermotts if they were up and running again..

He picked our club as his son plays for us.

But I'll say it one more time, watched it called it and moved on from it.

If your team loses in that fashion it's tough, but that's not a ref's fault
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on December 10, 2023, 11:36:16 PM
Post up a link to the incident and let the board decide...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 11, 2023, 12:03:17 AM
No foul. Great tackle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 12:05:57 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 11, 2023, 12:03:17 AMNo foul. Great tackle

Being from Derry I'll question your bias  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AntrimRealist on December 11, 2023, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 11, 2023, 12:03:17 AMNo foul. Great tackle
MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 11, 2023, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 11, 2023, 12:03:17 AMNo foul. Great tackle
MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave :D

Trust me, I've no issues, there was a sending off recently and I was saying it wasn't (from what I seen) and the vast majority of ref's I spoke to said it was a red..

Goes both ways in fairness, I've had plenty of ref's question calls I've done, It's not a biggy or something to worry about.

There is only one whistle and one go at it. The players have plenty of chances to win or lose a game, this team coughed up 6 points in 2 minutes?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GTP on December 11, 2023, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: AntrimRealist on December 11, 2023, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 11, 2023, 12:03:17 AMNo foul. Great tackle
MR2 would agree with you except he has to back whatever decision the referee gave :D

Trust me, I've no issues, there was a sending off recently and I was saying it wasn't (from what I seen) and the vast majority of ref's I spoke to said it was a red..

Goes both ways in fairness, I've had plenty of ref's question calls I've done, It's not a biggy or something to worry about.

There is only one whistle and one go at it. The players have plenty of chances to win or lose a game, this team coughed up 6 points in 2 minutes?
I don't think anyone has said the referee cost Magherafelt the match and 3 of those 6 points did come as a direct result of the decision to give the penalty.
In the video the referee can briefly be seen in a good position on the edge of the D with a clear view of the ball as the attacker gains possession. The attacker moves left as the referee is looking at it and based on the video this would put 2 or 3 Magherafelt players in the referee's line of sight. He would also have the attacker's body blocking his view of the goalkeeper and his actions. So the referee was in position but and I appreciate this is speculating the play quickly moved in a direction were perhaps he was unsighted and unable to get himself a clear view. He will have seen the attacker go to strike his shot then almost immediately go over the top of the keeper and down. I am guessing but it probably did look like a foul and penalty from behind the play where the referee was, getting his one and only view of the incident.
I still think it was an incorrect decision, but perhaps an understandable one for the referee to make rather than a very poor one as stated previously.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on December 11, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 11, 2023, 12:03:17 AMNo foul. Great tackle

My initial reaction too. Hasn't changed despite watching it several times.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on December 11, 2023, 11:26:17 AM
MR2 - Haven't read back through all the comments and maybe this has been queried. But would it have been wise for the Referee to consult his umpires given such a crucial decision at an important time in the match? Although maybe the penalty only bringing it back to a 3 point game didn't seem like such a crucial decision at the time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on December 11, 2023, 12:33:56 PM
I can see from Colm's position why he gave the call he did, however I cannot see why his umpires did not give him a nudge and say it seemed like a clean tackle, unless they also agree it was a penalty

MR2, can I ask what contact is allowed with a goal keeper within the small square? I always believed he could be tackled but not shouldered?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on December 11, 2023, 01:36:52 PM
As I started the debate id like to weigh in. Brilliant bit of goalkeeping saves the ball between the stage of dropping the ball from hand to foot, only contact made with forward is due to the forward being in motion of kicking the ball takes him into the goalkeeper. If you pause it you can see the initial contact is with the ball and doesn't touch the man until the fella's momentum takes him into the keeper. 

Its honestly incredible goalkeeping great save/block.

I see how everyone has different opinions but your reasoning for saying its a foul MR2 is wrong as there is no contact with the man until after ball is blocked/saved.

P.S Pause the video at 16 seconds
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on December 11, 2023, 01:44:11 PM
Who won the Cargin V Glen game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on December 11, 2023, 01:36:52 PMAs I started the debate id like to weigh in. Brilliant bit of goalkeeping saves the ball between the stage of dropping the ball from hand to foot, only contact made with forward is due to the forward being in motion of kicking the ball takes him into the goalkeeper. If you pause it you can see the initial contact is with the ball and doesn't touch the man until the fella's momentum takes him into the keeper. 

Its honestly incredible goalkeeping great save/block.

I see how everyone has different opinions but your reasoning for saying its a foul MR2 is wrong as there is no contact with the man until after ball is blocked/saved.

P.S Pause the video at 16 seconds
You can't pause the match though, and my initial reaction from the view on screen 'live' is foul..

If it was a touch on the ball first then yes I can say keeper made contact with the ball play on.

As for having a chat with the umpires, yeah, not problems.. The umpires have a duty too and maybe they felt it was a free also as they didn't call him in?

You can tackle the ball in the square if the keeper has it, other contact will generally result in a free

I mentioned on another thread yesterday that the main chatter in games are what the ref did, rather than the mistakes the players do during the 60 + minutes of a game, is it easier to blame the ref for a teams failings?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 02:26:07 PM
To me there's absolutely no doubt the goalie makes the save between the player dropping the ball and his foot kicking it. The angle the ball comes out tells me that for sure but the real question is did he make contact with the player before the ball. The angle is inconclusive to be honest and you're really only trusting your eyes. Personally my first viewing was no foul but I can see why there's debate.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on December 11, 2023, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 02:26:07 PMTo me there's absolutely no doubt the goalie makes the save between the player dropping the ball and his foot kicking it. The angle the ball comes out tells me that for sure but the real question is did he make contact with the player before the ball. The angle is inconclusive to be honest and you're really only trusting your eyes. Personally my first viewing was no foul but I can see why there's debate.

doesn't pause the video at 16 seconds can see its all ball
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on December 11, 2023, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on December 11, 2023, 01:36:52 PMAs I started the debate id like to weigh in. Brilliant bit of goalkeeping saves the ball between the stage of dropping the ball from hand to foot, only contact made with forward is due to the forward being in motion of kicking the ball takes him into the goalkeeper. If you pause it you can see the initial contact is with the ball and doesn't touch the man until the fella's momentum takes him into the keeper. 

Its honestly incredible goalkeeping great save/block.

I see how everyone has different opinions but your reasoning for saying its a foul MR2 is wrong as there is no contact with the man until after ball is blocked/saved.

P.S Pause the video at 16 seconds
You can't pause the match though, and my initial reaction from the view on screen 'live' is foul..

If it was a touch on the ball first then yes I can say keeper made contact with the ball play on.

As for having a chat with the umpires, yeah, not problems.. The umpires have a duty too and maybe they felt it was a free also as they didn't call him in?

You can tackle the ball in the square if the keeper has it, other contact will generally result in a free

I mentioned on another thread yesterday that the main chatter in games are what the ref did, rather than the mistakes the players do during the 60 + minutes of a game, is it easier to blame the ref for a teams failings?

You are right teams do see it as an easy coup out.

Even as a supporter i do it myself at initial reaction often time goes by maybe re watch the game you look and realise it usually isn't the ref that beats you.

However i did just say M'felt can feel hard done by with the decision but didn't blame Colm for them losing.

I'll also add i think Colm is one of the top Refs in our county at the moment. Good fair ref and treats the players with respect. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 11, 2023, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 02:26:07 PMTo me there's absolutely no doubt the goalie makes the save between the player dropping the ball and his foot kicking it. The angle the ball comes out tells me that for sure but the real question is did he make contact with the player before the ball. The angle is inconclusive to be honest and you're really only trusting your eyes. Personally my first viewing was no foul but I can see why there's debate.
What? You are allowed to make contact with people in Gaelic Football.

You're not allowed to dive at and take out a players legs which is what the referee has deemed to have happened here. If he has got to the ball and saved it, that's perfect but if he has gone through the player then made contact with the ball, it's a foul.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 11, 2023, 05:15:38 PMHow can you think for a second that that's what happened in that clip?

What is it you think the referee believes happened here? He obviously believes the goalkeeper took the player out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 06:24:33 PM
So this is what actually happens in every game!

A call that gets people divided on what happened.

I've seen plenty as a supporter that leaves me baffled tbf.

But, over the years I've mellowed as a supporter and just get on with it.

Returning to management would certainly change my opinion though, as my investment would be more critical of decisions within the game. That's a natural enough response though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 07:53:10 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 11, 2023, 07:47:56 PMI've seen worse calls given/not given but so much air time for this incident. Ref can't get every call right. It was a great tackle from the keeper - you'll not see much of a better save in a while considering how late on, Ulster quarter final etc. MR2 not seeing it as this is a bit worrying but in the heat of the battle and a split second decision to make you have to have some sympathy with CMcD. I'm sure he can see the mistake from the video but in real time it maybe looks like a rash tackle hence the call. But let's move on lads. It's nearly Christmas.

Any word on managers across the divisions? Anyone any info?

Your easily worried.. I've more worrying things like the cost of living, my kids getting jobs, mortgages my families health, you know, important stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 08:22:36 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 11, 2023, 08:14:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 07:53:10 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 11, 2023, 07:47:56 PMI've seen worse calls given/not given but so much air time for this incident. Ref can't get every call right. It was a great tackle from the keeper - you'll not see much of a better save in a while considering how late on, Ulster quarter final etc. MR2 not seeing it as this is a bit worrying but in the heat of the battle and a split second decision to make you have to have some sympathy with CMcD. I'm sure he can see the mistake from the video but in real time it maybe looks like a rash tackle hence the call. But let's move on lads. It's nearly Christmas.

Any word on managers across the divisions? Anyone any info?

Your easily worried.. I've more worrying things like the cost of living, my kids getting jobs, mortgages my families health, you know, important stuff

You not making a fortune blowing the whistle?

I'm not talking about me, I'm loaded lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 11, 2023, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 08:22:36 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 11, 2023, 08:14:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2023, 07:53:10 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 11, 2023, 07:47:56 PMI've seen worse calls given/not given but so much air time for this incident. Ref can't get every call right. It was a great tackle from the keeper - you'll not see much of a better save in a while considering how late on, Ulster quarter final etc. MR2 not seeing it as this is a bit worrying but in the heat of the battle and a split second decision to make you have to have some sympathy with CMcD. I'm sure he can see the mistake from the video but in real time it maybe looks like a rash tackle hence the call. But let's move on lads. It's nearly Christmas.

Any word on managers across the divisions? Anyone any info?

Your easily worried.. I've more worrying things like the cost of living, my kids getting jobs, mortgages my families health, you know, important stuff

You not making a fortune blowing the whistle?

I'm not talking about me, I'm loaded lol

I thought you were on commission for the amount of times you could blow it. That's the whistle not the game  ;)

someone has to step up, others can't or won't, without them ....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on December 11, 2023, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 07, 2023, 05:42:52 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 06, 2023, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 04, 2023, 05:52:09 PMquote author=Silver hill link=msg=2237786 date=1699865270]
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

Silver Hill i think everyone has moved on.  Your own credibility evaporated the second you posted the above which all video and photographic evidence refutes.

Enjoy your run with Glen rather than prolonging what appears to be a niggling doubt about that side. I'm sure the derry discussion board are awaiting your wisdom


Refutes....  :-*

It irks you because you know, but you can't admit that Glen may well not have gotten through that game with 15 Cargin men on the pitch for the duration.

Your original statement of what you say you saw is just as reliable as the linesman's on the day who's originally from Foreglen and now lives in Donegal. It just lacks any credibility at all. 
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Serious bit of straw clutching there re the linesman. Cargin have won one ulster club game in 10 years. Could play until now and still wouldn't get enough scores to win a game in that championship. Delusional. So, by your logic I suppose you feel Cargin would have been ulster Champions today if Tomas hadn't lifted his elbow?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 11, 2023, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 11, 2023, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 07, 2023, 05:42:52 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 06, 2023, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 04, 2023, 05:52:09 PMquote author=Silver hill link=msg=2237786 date=1699865270]
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

Silver Hill i think everyone has moved on.  Your own credibility evaporated the second you posted the above which all video and photographic evidence refutes.

Enjoy your run with Glen rather than prolonging what appears to be a niggling doubt about that side. I'm sure the derry discussion board are awaiting your wisdom


Refutes....  :-*

It irks you because you know, but you can't admit that Glen may well not have gotten through that game with 15 Cargin men on the pitch for the duration.

Your original statement of what you say you saw is just as reliable as the linesman's on the day who's originally from Foreglen and now lives in Donegal. It just lacks any credibility at all. 

Serious bit of straw clutching there re the linesman. Cargin have won one ulster club game in 10 years. Could play until now and still wouldn't get enough scores to win a game in that championship. Delusional. So, by your logic I suppose you feel Cargin would have been ulster Champions today if Tomas hadn't lifted his elbow?
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Now that Tomas has had the red card rescinded does that mean Glen's title is tainted?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 12, 2023, 12:26:46 AM
Stick an asterisk beside it. It's the only way
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 12, 2023, 07:08:59 AM
Aye I heard glen are going to hand it back and offer a replay.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2023, 07:35:33 AM
Glen are well versed in the rulebook for replays. ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 12, 2023, 08:14:48 AM
Tomas red card rescinded justice prevails albeit 4 weeks too late
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on December 12, 2023, 08:54:01 AM
Yep, stick an asterisk beside it! Cargin can take comfort in knowing that they would of won Ulster, only for those terrible Glen boys
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 12, 2023, 09:18:13 AM
Jeez lads there's mistakes made by referee's in every game, forget about it. I get it might have gurt a bit at the time, but can't still be going on.

Glen would have won the game regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on December 12, 2023, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 11, 2023, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 07, 2023, 05:42:52 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 06, 2023, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 04, 2023, 05:52:09 PMquote author=Silver hill link=msg=2237786 date=1699865270]
I was at the game and it happened right in front of us. McCann lifted his elbow into an unnatural position and caught Mcguckin on the jaw/cheek. Straight red all day long.

Silver Hill i think everyone has moved on.  Your own credibility evaporated the second you posted the above which all video and photographic evidence refutes.

Enjoy your run with Glen rather than prolonging what appears to be a niggling doubt about that side. I'm sure the derry discussion board are awaiting your wisdom


Refutes....  :-*

It irks you because you know, but you can't admit that Glen may well not have gotten through that game with 15 Cargin men on the pitch for the duration.

Your original statement of what you say you saw is just as reliable as the linesman's on the day who's originally from Foreglen and now lives in Donegal. It just lacks any credibility at all.

Serious bit of straw clutching there re the linesman. Cargin have won one ulster club game in 10 years. Could play until now and still wouldn't get enough scores to win a game in that championship. Delusional. So, by your logic I suppose you feel Cargin would have been ulster Champions today if Tomas hadn't lifted his elbow?
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Silverhill now that Tomas got his red card rescinded are you still going to pedal the lie that you had a clear view it was definitely a red card. I watched that video run a number of times and couldn't see an elbow being used at all. Poor form from you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on December 12, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: WattyMan on December 12, 2023, 08:54:01 AMYep, stick an asterisk beside it! Cargin can take comfort in knowing that they would of won Ulster, only for those terrible Glen boys


Glen fully deserving of winning Ulster again fair play to them back to back titles a real good side
No one saying we'd have won Ulster at all or even beat Glen with 15 men either but we'd have given it a fair good go is all.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 12, 2023, 09:32:47 AM
Some shite talked on here this past while. The 2024 season can't come quick enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2023, 09:41:47 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 12, 2023, 09:32:47 AMSome shite talked on here this past while. The 2024 season can't come quick enough.

Is Wee Pete raring to go for the new season?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2023, 10:04:02 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/12/11/news/tomas_mccann_s_controversial_red_card_against_glen_rescinded-3841156/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1D2kH_TNX6BnEwMhsrLE_jEDNhAoJHJpK0rX2Zp6tO-SR1sLPkq_O5kzY_aem_Aek8d_6y0fEtpRWJ2PiwvmEeu9iHu4ARdCdAc7tTuXRtWipKgiIRGpf3hml29Et-oJQ


Tomas red card rescinded. For Cargin it's a case of they'll never know what would have happened had Tomas played the full game, but as Lar says, you'de have to admit it would not have been a surprise had Cargin scraped through.

That's the harshness of football, we never get to really know!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2023, 10:10:39 AM
We'll never know BS but it would have been a surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2023, 10:29:25 AM
Antrim football isn't as far away as people would have you believe.  No easy games in Ulster as 8 county favourites and an excellent Trillick side would testify.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2023, 10:34:11 AM
No Cargin are a very good team spike but it's just Glen are double ulster champions now - tbh only Kilcoo or Scotstown beating them wouldn't be a surprise. I still think Kilmacaud will beat them though.

I would expect Cargin to dominate antrim for a while now and for them to get beat would be the exception rather than the norm so they will probably build up plenty of experience in ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on December 12, 2023, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 12, 2023, 10:04:02 AMhttps://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/12/11/news/tomas_mccann_s_controversial_red_card_against_glen_rescinded-3841156/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1D2kH_TNX6BnEwMhsrLE_jEDNhAoJHJpK0rX2Zp6tO-SR1sLPkq_O5kzY_aem_Aek8d_6y0fEtpRWJ2PiwvmEeu9iHu4ARdCdAc7tTuXRtWipKgiIRGpf3hml29Et-oJQ


Tomas red card rescinded. For Cargin it's a case of they'll never know what would have happened had Tomas played the full game, but as Lar says, you'de have to admit it would not have been a surprise had Cargin scraped through.

That's the harshness of football, we never get to really know!
No one in the stand that day thought it was red (whether they admit it or not), the Foreglen linesman had his say but its all parked now, at least Tomas has no suspension hanging over him for this new season.
What about Antrim, the Portgual training trip is bound to have a positive effect, some very winnable games in Div 3, promotion should definitely be on the agenda
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on December 12, 2023, 10:49:16 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on December 12, 2023, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 12, 2023, 10:04:02 AMhttps://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/12/11/news/tomas_mccann_s_controversial_red_card_against_glen_rescinded-3841156/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1D2kH_TNX6BnEwMhsrLE_jEDNhAoJHJpK0rX2Zp6tO-SR1sLPkq_O5kzY_aem_Aek8d_6y0fEtpRWJ2PiwvmEeu9iHu4ARdCdAc7tTuXRtWipKgiIRGpf3hml29Et-oJQ


Tomas red card rescinded. For Cargin it's a case of they'll never know what would have happened had Tomas played the full game, but as Lar says, you'de have to admit it would not have been a surprise had Cargin scraped through.

That's the harshness of football, we never get to really know!
No one in the stand that day thought it was red (whether they admit it or not), the Foreglen linesman had his say but its all parked now, at least Tomas has no suspension hanging over him for this new season.
What about Antrim, the Portgual training trip is bound to have a positive effect, some very winnable games in Div 3, promotion should definitely be on the agenda

It's been discussed to death at this point but to say no one in the stand thought it was a red is a bit of a stretch. Maybe no one from Cargin but that's to be expected as we're all partisan when it comes to these things. I did think it was a red card offense when watching live. I've also seen loads of stills and videos since that wouldn't suggest that I change my mind. Tomas lost possession, he was frustrated with himself and in that split second, he raised his elbow into an unnatural position. Intent etc doesn't really come into it after that. As Roy Keane used to say when he was lined, 'did I give the ref an opportunity to send me off there?' And in Tomas's case, I personally think he did. As for the argument if had remained 15v15....as I've said previously, Cargin's style of play offensively needs to change. They simply don't score enough to win games at that level. That's my own honest opinion on it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 12, 2023, 11:09:13 AM
Anyway, are the any AGMs coming up in any of the clubs where there is expected to be big turnarounds or new management teams?   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2023, 12:53:42 PM
I did say it was harsh.. So ref's don't always back ref's  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on December 13, 2023, 08:33:21 AM
Is 'Gaelfast' a body only interested in Belfast based schools for their awards?
South West clubs with huge attendance at St Pats, St Mary's, St Pius x, and St Ronans not mentioned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 08:43:10 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2023, 08:33:21 AMIs 'Gaelfast' a body only interested in Belfast based schools for their awards?
South West clubs with huge attendance at St Pats, St Mary's, St Pius x, and St Ronans not mentioned.

Think the hint is in the title
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2023, 08:45:56 AM
There are non belfast, but still antrim, schools nominations. Nothing to do with clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on December 13, 2023, 09:03:42 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2023, 10:34:11 AMNo Cargin are a very good team spike but it's just Glen are double ulster champions now - tbh only Kilcoo or Scotstown beating them wouldn't be a surprise. I still think Kilmacaud will beat them though.

I would expect Cargin to dominate antrim for a while now and for them to get beat would be the exception rather than the norm so they will probably build up plenty of experience in ulster.

Yeah cargin are a good team, actually a very good team. But them beating Glen would be as big a surprise to me as anyone else in Antrim beating Cargin.

Cargin a step above any team in Antrim, and Glen a step above Cargin. Double Ulster champs, 3 in a row winners in Derry and to be honest it's in their own hands how many in a row they want to win in Derry. Won the last 3 finals by 9 points each, against what people would see as their nearest rivals. Even if their nearest rivals half the gap, theres stil 4/5 points in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 13, 2023, 09:54:58 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on December 13, 2023, 08:33:21 AMIs 'Gaelfast' a body only interested in Belfast based schools for their awards?
South West clubs with huge attendance at St Pats, St Mary's, St Pius x, and St Ronans not mentioned.

The competition is for Antrim schools, not Derry schools.

A great effort by those involved to promote the games in Antrim, although I would say that generally the football and LGFA awards do favour the Belfast schools, probably due to familiarity.

Those in charge know a lot of the Belfast based players by first name which gives them an advantage I would say.

Same as the development squads in both football and LGFA.

I had a good laugh at the recent LGFA u14 and u16 panels that were selected.

Moneyglass ladies won u14 championship, u15 all ireland feile and u16 championship.

They have 4 players on those 2 squads.

I think on the u14 squad, 25 out of 30 are Belfast based.

I get that they need to push hard to keep the Belfast players involved in the game and to maybe push them a bit more to challenge the SW teams, but it looks a bit daft when you consider how successful one team was this year and their players are deemed not good enough to make county.

And I am not from Moneyglass so no bias is being shown.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 13, 2023, 12:08:02 PM
I have no idea of the personnel involved but given that it is an Under 14 team for 2024, would that mean their best players of 2023 are now 15 and therefore ineligible? Is the 2024 crop expected to take the title?  should the Under 16s therefore have more representation?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 13, 2023, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 13, 2023, 12:08:02 PMI have no idea of the personnel involved but given that it is an Under 14 team for 2024, would that mean their best players of 2023 are now 15 and therefore ineligible? Is the 2024 crop expected to take the title?  should the Under 16s therefore have more representation?

Yes, my point was that the u15 squad won the All Ireland Feile so across u14 and u16 you would think they would have had a better selection of players.

Coaches/Selectors were all Belfast bar 1 at u16 with none at the u14 age.

I know there would be the argument that people from SW should step up and be part of those management teams but it shouldn't matter where they are from, the best players should be the ones who are picked, not just those that they are more familiar with.

And it would be hard to argue that such a dominant set of players would only have 4 players who could make the grade.

Or maybe they weren't interested in attending and giving it a good go, as they saw how last years selections went, which were of a similar spread.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 13, 2023, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 13, 2023, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 13, 2023, 12:08:02 PMI have no idea of the personnel involved but given that it is an Under 14 team for 2024, would that mean their best players of 2023 are now 15 and therefore ineligible? Is the 2024 crop expected to take the title?  should the Under 16s therefore have more representation?

Yes, my point was that the u15 squad won the All Ireland Feile so across u14 and u16 you would think they would have had a better selection of players.

Coaches/Selectors were all Belfast bar 1 at u16 with none at the u14 age.

I know there would be the argument that people from SW should step up and be part of those management teams but it shouldn't matter where they are from, the best players should be the ones who are picked, not just those that they are more familiar with.

And it would be hard to argue that such a dominant set of players would only have 4 players who could make the grade.

Or maybe they weren't interested in attending and giving it a good go, as they saw how last years selections went, which were of a similar spread.

It isn't just lgfa either, the boys selections wouldn't have been too dissimilar from what I have seen in the past.

A panel of 60 lads at u14 would have been 3/4 Belfast and 1/4 SW with the majority of the coaches/selectors being Belfast based.....and obviously the trials were all held in Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2023, 04:38:39 PM
Congrats to Cargin for being Ulster champions at talking sh1t!! Happy Christmas and see ye next year lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on December 13, 2023, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2023, 04:38:39 PMCongrats to Cargin for being Ulster champions at talking sh1t!! Happy Christmas and see ye next year lads.

Ulster champions 2024
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 07:19:15 PM
I'd say there's a lot of people can't be arsed with the travel involved. It's a long journey a couple of times a week from some of the clubs. I've heard of a few people who just wouldn't attend county trials due to the commitment needed.

At the local club I'd say there's a few might be good enough but a load of them play Camogie for the county instead but there's one girl who doesn't play Camogie and she's an outstanding footballer but only one parent drives so she has never been to any trials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 07:19:15 PMI'd say there's a lot of people can't be arsed with the travel involved. It's a long journey a couple of times a week from some of the clubs. I've heard of a few people who just wouldn't attend county trials due to the commitment needed.

At the local club I'd say there's a few might be good enough but a load of them play Camogie for the county instead but there's one girl who doesn't play Camogie and she's an outstanding footballer but only one parent drives so she has never been to any trials.


Back in the day, we made our way to Casement, the south Antrim minibus picked us up and we went to Dunloy or Loughgiel and vice versa the county lads got in a bus and headed to Belfast for training

Kids are soft or their parents are nowadays.. probably both
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 07:19:15 PMI'd say there's a lot of people can't be arsed with the travel involved. It's a long journey a couple of times a week from some of the clubs. I've heard of a few people who just wouldn't attend county trials due to the commitment needed.

At the local club I'd say there's a few might be good enough but a load of them play Camogie for the county instead but there's one girl who doesn't play Camogie and she's an outstanding footballer but only one parent drives so she has never been to any trials.


Back in the day, we made our way to Casement, the south Antrim minibus picked us up and we went to Dunloy or Loughgiel and vice versa the county lads got in a bus and headed to Belfast for training

Kids are soft or their parents are nowadays.. probably both

If you were able to put kids on a minibus then it might see more people willing to do it.

If my daughter made it to that level, you're talking a 70 mile round trip to Belfast however many times a week and I've got two other kids who do stuff too. Not only is that expensive but there's nights it just wouldn't be possible when they all have stuff on.

Sticking you on a minibus as a kid for however many hours is a totally different level of commitment required from parents and it doesn't make anyone soft.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 11:59:02 PM
Like I said it was one session up the county and another in Belfast...

You got picked up and away ya went..

Parents now won't allow their little one to go up the road..

I was doing this during the troubles, many a night driving outta Dunloy the UDR were waiting to stop us for a while, one night we didn't get home till midnight lol

No mobile phones, life was simpler and a lot cheaper for parents as they were not out of cost..

Not sure it would be expensive
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on December 14, 2023, 08:13:12 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 07:19:15 PMI'd say there's a lot of people can't be arsed with the travel involved. It's a long journey a couple of times a week from some of the clubs. I've heard of a few people who just wouldn't attend county trials due to the commitment needed.

At the local club I'd say there's a few might be good enough but a load of them play Camogie for the county instead but there's one girl who doesn't play Camogie and she's an outstanding footballer but only one parent drives so she has never been to any trials.


Back in the day, we made our way to Casement, the south Antrim minibus picked us up and we went to Dunloy or Loughgiel and vice versa the county lads got in a bus and headed to Belfast for training

Kids are soft or their parents are nowadays.. probably both

If you were able to put kids on a minibus then it might see more people willing to do it.

If my daughter made it to that level, you're talking a 70 mile round trip to Belfast however many times a week and I've got two other kids who do stuff too. Not only is that expensive but there's nights it just wouldn't be possible when they all have stuff on.

Sticking you on a minibus as a kid for however many hours is a totally different level of commitment required from parents and it doesn't make anyone soft.

Why though? not having a go but parents let their kids that age go on a bus to school on their own, go on a bus for school trips why would this be any different? if anything it would make life a lot easier for parents, if you've a couple of kids you're not worrying about just running 1 here there and everywhere. drop them off and lift them from the bus. Parents really dont need to be standing watching training and tbh if I was a coach id hate a load of parents watching all the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 14, 2023, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on December 14, 2023, 08:13:12 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 07:19:15 PMI'd say there's a lot of people can't be arsed with the travel involved. It's a long journey a couple of times a week from some of the clubs. I've heard of a few people who just wouldn't attend county trials due to the commitment needed.

At the local club I'd say there's a few might be good enough but a load of them play Camogie for the county instead but there's one girl who doesn't play Camogie and she's an outstanding footballer but only one parent drives so she has never been to any trials.


Back in the day, we made our way to Casement, the south Antrim minibus picked us up and we went to Dunloy or Loughgiel and vice versa the county lads got in a bus and headed to Belfast for training

Kids are soft or their parents are nowadays.. probably both

If you were able to put kids on a minibus then it might see more people willing to do it.

If my daughter made it to that level, you're talking a 70 mile round trip to Belfast however many times a week and I've got two other kids who do stuff too. Not only is that expensive but there's nights it just wouldn't be possible when they all have stuff on.

Sticking you on a minibus as a kid for however many hours is a totally different level of commitment required from parents and it doesn't make anyone soft.

Why though? not having a go but parents let their kids that age go on a bus to school on their own, go on a bus for school trips why would this be any different? if anything it would make life a lot easier for parents, if you've a couple of kids you're not worrying about just running 1 here there and everywhere. drop them off and lift them from the bus. Parents really dont need to be standing watching training and tbh if I was a coach id hate a load of parents watching all the time.

I would say there would be a huge onus on the driver with regards to safeguarding for one.

And GAA safeguarding is separate to what you would need for say an Ulsterbus driver.

Same goes for Access NI clearance.

Gone are the days when we used to all jump in the back of our u12/u14 managers Transit van and head up to the Glens for a days hurling, leaving in the morning and not home until late that evening with no mobile phones so parent had no idea where you were for most of the day and the manager the only adult with us!!

The other aspect is of course financial.

Unless a club owns a minibus then you are looking at hiring something and they don't come cheap these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 14, 2023, 10:54:58 AM
Lets be realistic, the days of sticking a child on a bus on their own has long passed. Maybe regional gatherings can occur regularly with a monthly gathering of the whole group in Belfast/The Country on a monthly basis. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on December 14, 2023, 11:03:10 AM
I've a really novel idea, might be a bit crazy but it also might work.

Why not develop a centre of excellence somewhere near the middle of the county, that would have great facilities including a gym and changing facilities flood lights etc and have all the county teams meeting there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 11:09:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 14, 2023, 11:03:10 AMI've a really novel idea, might be a bit crazy but it also might work.

Why not develop a centre of excellence somewhere near the middle of the county, that would have great facilities including a gym and changing facilities flood lights etc and have all the county teams meeting there!

I think some of those development squad sessions were at Dunsilly but not an equitable split with Woodlands
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2023, 11:37:49 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 14, 2023, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on December 14, 2023, 08:13:12 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 07:19:15 PMI'd say there's a lot of people can't be arsed with the travel involved. It's a long journey a couple of times a week from some of the clubs. I've heard of a few people who just wouldn't attend county trials due to the commitment needed.

At the local club I'd say there's a few might be good enough but a load of them play Camogie for the county instead but there's one girl who doesn't play Camogie and she's an outstanding footballer but only one parent drives so she has never been to any trials.


Back in the day, we made our way to Casement, the south Antrim minibus picked us up and we went to Dunloy or Loughgiel and vice versa the county lads got in a bus and headed to Belfast for training

Kids are soft or their parents are nowadays.. probably both

If you were able to put kids on a minibus then it might see more people willing to do it.

If my daughter made it to that level, you're talking a 70 mile round trip to Belfast however many times a week and I've got two other kids who do stuff too. Not only is that expensive but there's nights it just wouldn't be possible when they all have stuff on.

Sticking you on a minibus as a kid for however many hours is a totally different level of commitment required from parents and it doesn't make anyone soft.

Why though? not having a go but parents let their kids that age go on a bus to school on their own, go on a bus for school trips why would this be any different? if anything it would make life a lot easier for parents, if you've a couple of kids you're not worrying about just running 1 here there and everywhere. drop them off and lift them from the bus. Parents really dont need to be standing watching training and tbh if I was a coach id hate a load of parents watching all the time.

I would say there would be a huge onus on the driver with regards to safeguarding for one.

And GAA safeguarding is separate to what you would need for say an Ulsterbus driver.

Same goes for Access NI clearance.

Gone are the days when we used to all jump in the back of our u12/u14 managers Transit van and head up to the Glens for a days hurling, leaving in the morning and not home until late that evening with no mobile phones so parent had no idea where you were for most of the day and the manager the only adult with us!!

The other aspect is of course financial.

Unless a club owns a minibus then you are looking at hiring something and they don't come cheap these days.

Access NI is a good thing, a professional driver is a good thing, getting kids to and from sessions/games is a good thing.

The cost needs looked looked at of course, but we send off our little ones to school everyday for hours and hours and hey ho they arrive back, parents complaining about having to run them all over the place, wise up, that's on you...

If you want to do it, then make it work, if not don't bother
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2023, 12:18:52 PM
The vast majority of sports stars will testify to the level of sacrifices made by their parents on their journey to elite level.

I have a sister who for about 8 years got up at 5.30am to get her son over to the national aquatic centre in Dublin for 7am, something like 124 lengths of the pool, drove him to school, collected him after school and went back for another 124 lengths. There were about 20 kids on the national elite course, none with any guarantees of success. All doing the same, some coming from further afield.

And her lad was something like 2nd best in Ireland at 800m backstroke or something, but on a worldwide database that time wasn't in the top 100.

Eventually he packed in it (wised up) but that's the level of dedication some parents go to!

Putting them on a minibus looks a lot handier, lol...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 14, 2023, 01:17:30 PM
I'm not judging who puts their kids on a bus on their own - I'm merely saying that the world we live in in 2023 prefer not too. Access NI is a basic form not an in depth analysis.  The crux is the repeated long distances travelling in the evening. Keep this manageable and the parents and kids will come. Dunsilly seems to be either very busy or very unused, it certainly doesnt appear to operate like other centres of excellence.     
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 01:35:25 PM
So what are we spending our million on in Antrim ?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 01:35:25 PMSo what are we spending our million on in Antrim ?  ;D

How many clubs are in Antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 01:35:25 PMSo what are we spending our million on in Antrim ?  ;D

How many clubs are in Antrim?

About 45-50 ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 01:35:25 PMSo what are we spending our million on in Antrim ?  ;D

How many clubs are in Antrim?


About 45-50 ?

If there's 50 clubs say, then each club will get €20,000.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 14, 2023, 02:17:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 14, 2023, 11:03:10 AMI've a really novel idea, might be a bit crazy but it also might work.

Why not develop a centre of excellence somewhere near the middle of the county, that would have great facilities including a gym and changing facilities flood lights etc and have all the county teams meeting there!

A lot of the Belfast lads get head staggers when they get north of Glengormley  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 14, 2023, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 01:35:25 PMSo what are we spending our million on in Antrim ?  ;D

How many clubs are in Antrim?

If there's 50 clubs say, then each club will get €20,000.


About 45-50 ?

Would some clubs get more? I see it is to be spent across all the codes so would clubs like say TNN or Glenravel who cover all codes be entitled to more than a purely football or hurling club? Either way, I'm sure it will be welcomed by each club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 14, 2023, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 14, 2023, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 14, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2023, 01:35:25 PMSo what are we spending our million on in Antrim ?  ;D

How many clubs are in Antrim?

If there's 50 clubs say, then each club will get €20,000.


About 45-50 ?

Would some clubs get more? I see it is to be spent across all the codes so would clubs like say TNN or Glenravel who cover all codes be entitled to more than a purely football or hurling club? Either way, I'm sure it will be welcomed by each club.

Good point.

Hopefully the answer is yes but I would doubt it.

More likely is we will have to split it 4 ways whereas the likes of Portglenone get £10k per code.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 15, 2023, 12:31:41 PM
According to the Irish Times breakdown each club in Antrim will get £6,667

County   Per Club

Antrim   €6,667
Armagh   €10,870
Carlow   €22,222
Cavan   €13,699
Clare   €7,874
Cork   €2,660
Derry   €10,753
Donegal   €10,765
Down   €8,065
Dublin   €4,444
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 15, 2023, 01:47:31 PM
Are LGFA and Camogie separate? So if a club has 4 codes they get 3 payments?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 15, 2023, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 15, 2023, 01:47:31 PMAre LGFA and Camogie separate? So if a club has 4 codes they get 3 payments?

It must work like that as otherwise those figures would be suggesting there's 150 clubs in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 15, 2023, 02:28:04 PM
Full list:


County    Per Club
Antrim    €6,667.00
Armagh    €10,870.00
Carlow    €22,222.00
Cavan    €13,699.00
Clare    €7,874.00
Cork    €2,660.00
Derry    €10,753.00
Donegal    €10,765.00
Down    €8,065.00
Dublin    €4,444.00
Fermanagh    €17,857.00
Galway    €7,643.00
Kerry    €10,204.00
Kildare    €10,309.00
Kilkenny    €11,905.00
Laois    €16,667.00
Leitrim    €26,316.00
Limerick    €6,711.00
Longford    €29,412.00
Louth    €14,925.00
Mayo    €14,706.00
Meath    €9,615.00
Monaghan    €13,158.00
Offaly    €12,346.00
Roscommon    €21,739.00
Sligo    €30,303.00
Tipperary    €7,692.00
Tyrone    €11,364.00
Waterford    €11,494.00
Westmeath    €14,493.00
Wexford    €7,092.00
Wicklow    €13,699.00
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on December 15, 2023, 02:43:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 15, 2023, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 15, 2023, 01:47:31 PMAre LGFA and Camogie separate? So if a club has 4 codes they get 3 payments?

It must work like that as otherwise those figures would be suggesting there's 150 clubs in Antrim.

And 376 clubs in Cork!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on December 15, 2023, 03:25:05 PM
It is an amazing gesture. fair play to him for doing it. Every club will welcome funds coming in and will make good use of them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 15, 2023, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: Spike on December 15, 2023, 03:25:05 PMIt is an amazing gesture. fair play to him for doing it. Every club will welcome funds coming in and will make good use of them.

make good use unless you use the money to change some mans car who wont be near your club in two years time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 15, 2023, 09:40:26 PM
Fair play JP. A fantastic gesture.  F#@k the begrudgers.  Always complaining about something.  Better going to the GAA instead of giving it to the government and being wasted on the Children's Hospital.

He gave money to clubs four or five years ago I think.

I heard on the radio that his Foundation has gave away millions and millions to good causes over the years. Plus the lad said that he's given a lot more than that away - which most people don't hear about.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2023, 10:19:12 PM
dont glorify him - h pays no taxes in Ireland for doctors , nurses etc - PR stunt
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2023, 10:40:26 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on December 20, 2023, 10:19:12 PMdont glorify him - h pays no taxes in Ireland for doctors , nurses etc - PR stunt

You'll hardly see his taxes if he did pay them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 20, 2023, 11:18:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 20, 2023, 10:47:33 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 15, 2023, 09:40:26 PMFair play JP. A fantastic gesture.  F#@k the begrudgers.  Always complaining about something.  Better going to the GAA instead of giving it to the government and being wasted on the Children's Hospital.

He gave money to clubs four or five years ago I think.

I heard on the radio that his Foundation has gave away millions and millions to good causes over the years. Plus the lad said that he's given a lot more than that away - which most people don't hear about.


That's not a quote you see every day. I'll give you that.

And?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 29, 2023, 05:56:29 PM
Link to a quiz on the Antrim Ladies, I'll post the mens one over the weekend.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VYG6DMH
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on December 30, 2023, 04:53:38 PM
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7KCPH6S

Link to the Antrim football quiz. Should be easy enough for most on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 01, 2024, 06:57:13 PM
So the county scene kicks off again this week. I think we can be optimistic, the vibes are good, positive results in challenge games, clearly the Portugal trip went very well. Be good to see the fellas putting it up to Monaghan midweek before Fermanagh at home
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on January 01, 2024, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 01, 2024, 06:57:13 PMSo the county scene kicks off again this week. I think we can be optimistic, the vibes are good, positive results in challenge games, clearly the Portugal trip went very well. Be good to see the fellas putting it up to Monaghan midweek before Fermanagh at home
The trick will be to move forward positively from the Meath game in Croke Park rather than roll back and start all over again so to speak.  I'm optimistic we will.  Massive year for McEntee to make his mark.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 03, 2024, 08:04:59 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 01, 2024, 06:57:13 PMSo the county scene kicks off again this week. I think we can be optimistic, the vibes are good, positive results in challenge games, clearly the Portugal trip went very well. Be good to see the fellas putting it up to Monaghan midweek before Fermanagh at home

Who have they played in challenge games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 03, 2024, 12:45:21 PM
louth was one game. all i know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 03, 2024, 02:18:17 PM
Hearing a couple of big name retirements in our referees, anyone else hear this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 03, 2024, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 03, 2024, 02:18:17 PMHearing a couple of big name retirements in our referees, anyone else hear this?

Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 04, 2024, 11:23:37 AM
Rumours doing the rounds Sean Lavery and Eamonn McCauley have stepped away

Quote from: paddyjohn on January 03, 2024, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 03, 2024, 02:18:17 PMHearing a couple of big name retirements in our referees, anyone else hear this?

Who?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 04, 2024, 11:56:18 AM
Always thought they were two of the better referees. Good luck in their retirements. 

Anybody any insight on the performance last night? Anybody play well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2024, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 04, 2024, 11:56:18 AMAlways thought they were two of the better referees. Good luck in their retirements. 

Anybody any insight on the performance last night? Anybody play well?

I'm sure the good referees on here, who are quick to point out the faults of the referees will be looking to take their place  ;D

(I'll not hold my breath)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 04, 2024, 02:15:15 PM
Watched most of it on Ulster Gaa livestream. Looked like both teams were doing a fair bit of experimenting. Good to see Eunan Walsh and Paddy McAleer back, Stephen Beattie too though he got hurt early.

There's the nucleus of a good squad there, all about finding the right balance. Hopefully we get a result against Fermanagh at the weekend to set us up nicely for the start of the league.

Under 20s had a good workout against a fully loaded UUJ freshers.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 04, 2024, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2024, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 04, 2024, 11:56:18 AMAlways thought they were two of the better referees. Good luck in their retirements. 

Anybody any insight on the performance last night? Anybody play well?

I'm sure the good referees on here, who are quick to point out the faults of the referees will be looking to take their place  ;D

(I'll not hold my breath)

You were a bit slow with that one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 04, 2024, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 04, 2024, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2024, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: Caesar on January 04, 2024, 11:56:18 AMAlways thought they were two of the better referees. Good luck in their retirements. 

Anybody any insight on the performance last night? Anybody play well?

I'm sure the good referees on here, who are quick to point out the faults of the referees will be looking to take their place  ;D

(I'll not hold my breath)

You were a bit slow that one!

Who had Milltown at 1.53pm? Anyone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2024, 08:54:49 PM
11:56:19 I had - he's slipping  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 04, 2024, 08:57:16 PM
Who has retired?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2024, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 04, 2024, 08:54:49 PM11:56:19 I had - he's slipping  ;D

I had thought I'd posted but the format has changed on my phone since it changed here so it never uploaded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on January 05, 2024, 12:17:14 PM
Do we know what referees have retired?

MR2, would you be privvy to the number of new refs joining or are we haemorrhaging referees without replacing them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on January 05, 2024, 12:17:14 PMDo we know what referees have retired?

MR2, would you be privvy to the number of new refs joining or are we haemorrhaging referees without replacing them?

I've no idea on the numbers joining but those that do the course, the drop off rate is fairly extensive and some people are just doing the minimum to facilitate their clubs requirements to have referees and not lose home games for not providing a ref.

Every ref that is sent a notification to do a game and replies No then its recorded on the system, you'd be surprised (or probably not) of the amount of ref's that either don't bother replying or send in unavailable

Of course there are lots of external issues as to why ref's are not able to attend games, work, families, illness, injuries and so on, but you can see clearly enough ones only doing the bare minimum to ensure the club doesn't lose out.

Like who in their right mind would willingly throw their name into the hat for being a ref? In most cases its about helping the club

Wouldn't know how many young whistlers stay on once they hit senior level, be interested in that figure, as a young lad its better expensed than a part-time job
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 05, 2024, 01:33:39 PM
Sean Lavery and Eamon McCauley by all accounts

Quote from: AllStar15 on January 05, 2024, 12:17:14 PMDo we know what referees have retired?

MR2, would you be privvy to the number of new refs joining or are we haemorrhaging referees without replacing them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 05, 2024, 01:33:39 PMSean Lavery and Eamon McCauley by all accounts

Quote from: AllStar15 on January 05, 2024, 12:17:14 PMDo we know what referees have retired?

MR2, would you be privvy to the number of new refs joining or are we haemorrhaging referees without replacing them?

Sean would be stepping down from intercounty too? He's been covering plenty of big intercounty games over the years
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 05, 2024, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 05, 2024, 01:33:39 PMSean Lavery and Eamon McCauley by all accounts

Quote from: AllStar15 on January 05, 2024, 12:17:14 PMDo we know what referees have retired?

MR2, would you be privvy to the number of new refs joining or are we haemorrhaging referees without replacing them?

Sean would be stepping down from intercounty too? He's been covering plenty of big intercounty games over the years

I thought referees were like priests, they couldn't retire and were only moved to the cushy wee rural parishes  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2024, 11:21:33 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 05, 2024, 01:33:39 PMSean Lavery and Eamon McCauley by all accounts

Quote from: AllStar15 on January 05, 2024, 12:17:14 PMDo we know what referees have retired?

MR2, would you be privvy to the number of new refs joining or are we haemorrhaging referees without replacing them?

2 of the best we have.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 10:46:09 AM
Are we just going to ignore yesterday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on January 08, 2024, 10:56:05 AM
Still waiting on Oso's post match analysis, ill not hold my breath ;D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 08, 2024, 11:22:06 AM
Only McKenna Cup.  Wouldnt be worrying too much about it, not like we have a strong record in it.  He needs to see what he is working with. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 01:39:12 PM
Whats the problem? Lot of lads missing atm for whatever reason. Few new faces and a few good returning players (mcaleer and walsh). Glorified friendlies
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 01:41:12 PM
As a county who has won next to nothing at any grade for how long now who are we to be looking down our nose at any competition, if it is good enough for the likes of Derry and Tyrone to win then why not Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 08, 2024, 01:42:42 PM
Any of the new or returning faces showing well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 01:41:12 PMAs a county who has won next to nothing at any grade for how long now who are we to be looking down our nose at any competition, if it is good enough for the likes of Derry and Tyrone to win then why not Antrim

What signs are there that we would be competing with the likes of Derry Tyrone and Donegal?

Would Fermanagh be a league above Antrim?

What was your take from the game?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:01:55 PM
My take and that which seems to be shared by the management is that even for McKenna cup that was a poor showing even for McKenna Cup.

I fear that is the squad for the year basically and unless something changes we are once again operating without the best footballers in the county

I am not saying we can compete with Derry come league nor championship, however this is the time of the year we could compete and should compete
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PM
We were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 02:16:44 PM
E McCabe, D McAleese, A Loughran, O Eastwood??

Whats the situation with Ryan Murray and Kevin Small

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 02:16:44 PME McCabe, D McAleese, A Loughran, O Eastwood??

Whats the situation with Ryan Murray and Kevin Small



Are these injuries? or lads not committing? or players who just want to stick with the club for a change and take a break?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 02:19:16 PM
Also C Johnston(Cargin)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 02:20:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 02:16:44 PME McCabe, D McAleese, A Loughran, O Eastwood??

Whats the situation with Ryan Murray and Kevin Small



Are these injuries? or lads not committing? or players who just want to stick with the club for a change and take a break?

Sorry thats not a reply to your previous message. Im just trying to pick out whos missing from tailtean cup team last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PM
Let's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 02:19:16 PMAlso C Johnston(Cargin)

I think in Antrim when we have some specials talents coming through we tend to throw them into the County teams at an early age in their development, which for me looking at it in todays money, is far too soon.

The players that make themselves available are the only ones that the manager can work with, so whatever the reasons someone isn't available then that is on the player, be it injury/commitment/rest
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PMLet's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 

I thought that about our club team when we were at our peak, but we played a few county teams and were bate handy enough at times..

But maybe this Cargin team is a step up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:33:04 PM
A few county teams, how many of them were as weak as this current Antrim panel?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PMLet's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 

I thought that about our club team when we were at our peak, but we played a few county teams and were bate handy enough at times..

But maybe this Cargin team is a step up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:33:04 PMA few county teams, how many of them were as weak as this current Antrim panel?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PMLet's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 

I thought that about our club team when we were at our peak, but we played a few county teams and were bate handy enough at times..

But maybe this Cargin team is a step up

I'm not sure TBH but its Jan and I'm not going to throw the toys out of the pram just yet after getting beat by two teams from Div 1 and Div 2

Any ideas as to why these best players are not showing for the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on January 08, 2024, 03:30:15 PM
Only caught the first half but looked like Fermanagh were well on top. Our goal was a bit fortunate and they had some incredibly rash wides too. Presumably we tightened it a bit second half to narrow the score.

I wouldn't be massively worried at this time of the year though. Our season will be defined by our league and Tailteann Cup campaigns. Get things sorted for then and I'll be happy enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 08, 2024, 03:33:26 PM
Two tight games. Not like we got pumped in both! Starting half forward line of hand hynds and mcgettigan (YOUNG). Quinn and Kelly two young lads with mcaleer just back having not kicked a ball all last year. I think weve plenty to look forward to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 08, 2024, 03:48:27 PM
Is Adam Loughran in the panel this year? He'd be a big loss if not.

This conversation is kind of groundhog day...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 08, 2024, 06:24:17 PM
Paddy Finnegan Conor Stewart Peter Healy also on recovering list, Paddy McCormack unavailable this year. And already Stephen Beattie and Dominic Mc Enhill have collected knocks after 2 games.

Adam Dermot Ryan and McCabe all out too, as is Kevin Small with hip injury.

CJ on holidays I believe.

That's a lot of last years panel unavailable to Andy for one reason or another. Hopefully most will make their way back to fitness as the year goes on -  but I fear that won't come quickly enough for the majority of the aforementioned for the first few league games at least.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 09, 2024, 01:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PMLet's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 

I thought that about our club team when we were at our peak, but we played a few county teams and were bate handy enough at times..

But maybe this Cargin team is a step up


Nothing to do with Cargin but seems to be a fascination on this board.we did hammer that county team(better side than lined out against the Erne men)after the county final which should never happen
Antrim are a poor side with mentally&physically weak players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2024, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 09, 2024, 01:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PMLet's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 

I thought that about our club team when we were at our peak, but we played a few county teams and were bate handy enough at times..

But maybe this Cargin team is a step up


Nothing to do with Cargin but seems to be a fascination on this board.we did hammer that county team(better side than lined out against the Erne men)after the county final which should never happen
Antrim are a poor side with mentally&physically weak players.

Good hammering alright
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 09, 2024, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 09, 2024, 01:24:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 08, 2024, 02:22:45 PMLet's be honest we all know Cargin would beat that County team

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 02:16:25 PMWe were competitive far parts with Monaghan and against Fermanagh lost by a point to a team above us in the league...

What best players have decided not to make themselves available for their county and why? 

I thought that about our club team when we were at our peak, but we played a few county teams and were bate handy enough at times..

But maybe this Cargin team is a step up


Nothing to do with Cargin but seems to be a fascination on this board.we did hammer that county team(better side than lined out against the Erne men)after the county final which should never happen
Antrim are a poor side with mentally&physically weak players.

After the county final when you boys are starting to peak and antrim boys blowing off the cobwebs? Congratulations

So many negative people, we are going to have the bulk of the squad(hopefully) who survived and could've nicked a few more points last year in the div 3 league and went on a decent run in the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on January 09, 2024, 02:58:06 PM
Andy must be on some money to be travelling up the country for that team...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 09, 2024, 02:58:37 PM
A lot of doom and gloom around here due to two narrow defeats. Whilst I am mystified at some of the decisions McEntee has made over the past year he has done a decent job. Year 2 will be interesting to see if he can push on.

It's early in the year. A lot of players to return. I wouldn't be giving up hope just yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2024, 03:18:04 PM
The siege is starting early this year!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 03:19:09 PM
New year and all that  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on January 09, 2024, 08:08:59 PM
It's not a new thing with Antrim footballers.

On the whole lack the physique and toughness at intercounty level.

There are loads of players listed above missing but they are almost all much of a muchness.  Watching antrim club football how many players are actually capable of kicking the ball over the bar at pace under even the slightest pressure from 30+ yards out.  It's been a flaw in Antrim teams for as long as I can remember.  If you only have one or two genuine shooters on the team you are too easy to play against.  The skills just aren't there.

Everyone got carried away with a narrow defeat in croke against Meath last year and Jordan and McCormick were lauded for their games and runs. Why don't people realise that guys like Colm O'Rourke look at the opposition beforehand and highlight that Jordan and McCormick and the like can't shot and let them run because there is no end product. Let them have the ball and make sure the shooters are covered.

Antrim simply lack players with the skills at intercounty level to kick the ball over the bar.  Underage football development in Antrim needs to focus more on actually kicking points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Oso on January 09, 2024, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on January 08, 2024, 10:56:05 AMStill waiting on Oso's post match analysis, ill not hold my breath ;D 

Ah you're just as sad as the rest of them!  Are you that small minded?  I suppose I should be chuffed you remembered my name, btw you're irrelevant to me!

Sunday was a disaster from my point of view, went there hoping to see your lot hammered and see the most ignorant crowd in club football quietened.  Wouldn't know you hadn't won anything til about 3 years ago or been anywhere before then.

Visibility was a joke and clearly affected crokes more than Glen. Despite not turning up for 3/4 of the game crokes still almost pulled it out of the bag when Glen literally filled their togs in the second half. So much for managing games and seeing them out, hasn't happened once outside Derry.  Some of crokes wides were brutal and they missed enough chances to win that game comfortably. Even the Walsh miss at the very death, no idea why he needed to carry it in further as he forced himself wide, it seemed within his range but maybe he couldn't see the posts clearing when he glanced up with the poor visibility.

The number of posters giving off about the tackle on Jack Doherty being a red because of contact with his face and him having to go off... He didn't even hold his face!!? and we all know Glen love to simulate (Emmet Bradley is made of chocolate it seems) he went off because he jarred his knee in the tackle. 

Both Doherty's playing with wing mirrors on, jack even lifted the ball clean off the ground in the first half before he went off as he was so busy looking around himself.

Can only hope St Brigids do me a favour in the final. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Silver hill on January 09, 2024, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: Oso on January 09, 2024, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on January 08, 2024, 10:56:05 AMStill waiting on Oso's post match analysis, ill not hold my breath ;D 

Ah you're just as sad as the rest of them!  Are you that small minded?  I suppose I should be chuffed you remembered my name, btw you're irrelevant to me!

Sunday was a disaster from my point of view, went there hoping to see your lot hammered and see the most ignorant crowd in club football quietened.  Wouldn't know you hadn't won anything til about 3 years ago or been anywhere before then.

Visibility was a joke and clearly affected crokes more than Glen. Despite not turning up for 3/4 of the game crokes still almost pulled it out of the bag when Glen literally filled their togs in the second half. So much for managing games and seeing them out, hasn't happened once outside Derry.  Some of crokes wides were brutal and they missed enough chances to win that game comfortably. Even the Walsh miss at the very death, no idea why he needed to carry it in further as he forced himself wide, it seemed within his range but maybe he couldn't see the posts clearing when he glanced up with the poor visibility.

The number of posters giving off about the tackle on Jack Doherty being a red because of contact with his face and him having to go off... He didn't even hold his face!!? and we all know Glen love to simulate (Emmet Bradley is made of chocolate it seems) he went off because he jarred his knee in the tackle. 

Both Doherty's playing with wing mirrors on, jack even lifted the ball clean off the ground in the first half before he went off as he was so busy looking around himself.

Can only hope St Brigids do me a favour in the final. 

Holy Moly, already a contender for post of the year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on January 10, 2024, 08:30:46 AM
Quote from: Oso on January 09, 2024, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on January 08, 2024, 10:56:05 AMStill waiting on Oso's post match analysis, ill not hold my breath ;D 

Ah you're just as sad as the rest of them!  Are you that small minded?  I suppose I should be chuffed you remembered my name, btw you're irrelevant to me!

Sunday was a disaster from my point of view, went there hoping to see your lot hammered and see the most ignorant crowd in club football quietened.  Wouldn't know you hadn't won anything til about 3 years ago or been anywhere before then.

Visibility was a joke and clearly affected crokes more than Glen. Despite not turning up for 3/4 of the game crokes still almost pulled it out of the bag when Glen literally filled their togs in the second half. So much for managing games and seeing them out, hasn't happened once outside Derry.  Some of crokes wides were brutal and they missed enough chances to win that game comfortably. Even the Walsh miss at the very death, no idea why he needed to carry it in further as he forced himself wide, it seemed within his range but maybe he couldn't see the posts clearing when he glanced up with the poor visibility.

The number of posters giving off about the tackle on Jack Doherty being a red because of contact with his face and him having to go off... He didn't even hold his face!!? and we all know Glen love to simulate (Emmet Bradley is made of chocolate it seems) he went off because he jarred his knee in the tackle. 

Both Doherty's playing with wing mirrors on, jack even lifted the ball clean off the ground in the first half before he went off as he was so busy looking around himself.

Can only hope St Brigids do me a favour in the final. 

Good Lord

Starting to think this Clown is from Slaughtneil
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blasmere on January 10, 2024, 09:00:09 AM
Quote from: Oso on January 09, 2024, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: WattyMan on January 08, 2024, 10:56:05 AMStill waiting on Oso's post match analysis, ill not hold my breath ;D 

Ah you're just as sad as the rest of them!  Are you that small minded?  I suppose I should be chuffed you remembered my name, btw you're irrelevant to me!

Sunday was a disaster from my point of view, went there hoping to see your lot hammered and see the most ignorant crowd in club football quietened.  Wouldn't know you hadn't won anything til about 3 years ago or been anywhere before then.

Visibility was a joke and clearly affected crokes more than Glen. Despite not turning up for 3/4 of the game crokes still almost pulled it out of the bag when Glen literally filled their togs in the second half. So much for managing games and seeing them out, hasn't happened once outside Derry.  Some of crokes wides were brutal and they missed enough chances to win that game comfortably. Even the Walsh miss at the very death, no idea why he needed to carry it in further as he forced himself wide, it seemed within his range but maybe he couldn't see the posts clearing when he glanced up with the poor visibility.

The number of posters giving off about the tackle on Jack Doherty being a red because of contact with his face and him having to go off... He didn't even hold his face!!? and we all know Glen love to simulate (Emmet Bradley is made of chocolate it seems) he went off because he jarred his knee in the tackle. 

Both Doherty's playing with wing mirrors on, jack even lifted the ball clean off the ground in the first half before he went off as he was so busy looking around himself.

Can only hope St Brigids do me a favour in the final. 

Jeez and I thought Trailer was the biggest muppet on this forum! To actually take the time to type this, wow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 10, 2024, 09:40:05 AM
3 Antrim players on view in Queens Sigerson win over DCU last night at the Dub. Though one of them is a county hurler
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2024, 09:41:25 AM
Hynds, Bohill and who else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on January 10, 2024, 10:48:18 AM
Boyle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 11, 2024, 09:08:00 AM
Who realistically do we think will come through and push for a place this year from that McKenna Cup squad? Some players looked to have been played out of position so McEntee has his own thinking on that and how they fit in long term. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 11, 2024, 11:04:28 AM
Surely E Walsh gets a starting jersey
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on January 11, 2024, 12:51:23 PM
Any word on which way they are restructuring the leagues, if they are or not??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 11, 2024, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on January 11, 2024, 12:51:23 PMAny word on which way they are restructuring the leagues, if they are or not??


That'd make too much sense for teams to be able to plan pre-season.

It'd be 8 weeks out to the start of the leagues if it was the same dates as last year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 11, 2024, 01:49:18 PM
The working group for football are meeting next Monday night
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 11, 2024, 07:51:43 PM
Working group proposals are basically what the Convention motions proposed
DIV 1 - 16 team; Div 2 - 10; Div 3- 9

League Winners Div 2 & 3 promoted
IFC & JFC winners promoted.

Relegation
Option 1  2 teams relegated via championship
Option 2
1 team via championship & 1 via League
Starting 2024
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 12, 2024, 08:52:24 AM
How do you get relegated from the championship?
8 teams who don't get out groups play off ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on January 12, 2024, 09:08:02 AM
Surely 16 teams div 1/ SFC is too many? what we had wasn't too far off the mark league wise
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on January 12, 2024, 12:05:34 PM
Quality of intermediate will be terrible if that's the case
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on January 12, 2024, 12:58:43 PM
I agree, whilst simultaneously lowering the quality of the Senior Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on January 12, 2024, 01:00:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 12, 2024, 08:52:24 AMHow do you get relegated from the championship?
8 teams who don't get out groups play off ?

The 4 teams finishing bottom of the 4 groups go into a playoff group and play each other once, with the team finishing bottom of that getting relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on January 12, 2024, 01:15:53 PM
I've no idea how anyone could sit down and look at Antrim football and think we need to make more clubs play senior, that'll fix it. It feels political to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on January 12, 2024, 01:19:50 PM

16 teams in D1 is far too many. The disparity  between the top teams and the bottom ranked sides (let's face it- practically mid D2 sides) will be enormous and many of the games won't benefit anyone. This is only being done to save some clubs, st endas  and Dunloy, from relegation for political reasons and not for the benefit of football in antrim. Glenravel earned the right to get promoted and deservedly so. You could even stretch
to aldergrove as they finished 2nd in the league. D2 was very competitive, as was the intermediate championship. Why  change to make both d1 and d2 weaker? To save st endas and Dunloy- it just so happens that moneyglass, aldergrove, Ballymena and lisburn will maintain  status or get promoted in a committe room rather than  on the field of play, after all, they wont vote to stay in d2 or get relegated on merit. A few easy votes to get it through the committee will ensure it goes through, hence the top heavy d1.
Convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 12, 2024, 02:41:24 PM
There will be a lot of dead rubber Div 1 games next year.  There was a strong suspicion some clubs didn't take it seriously last year, what is this season going to be like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2024, 02:54:05 PM
What is the rationale behind it? Makes no sense to me at all but maybe I am missing something.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 13, 2024, 08:51:07 PM
Bonkers stuff!
A Div.1 of 10 teams max would be ideal. It would be competitive and give the league credibility. A 16 team league would be farce.. in most counties, especially Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2024, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: ck on January 13, 2024, 08:51:07 PMBonkers stuff!
A Div.1 of 10 teams max would be ideal. It would be competitive and give the league credibility. A 16 team league would be farce.. in most counties, especially Antrim.


It'll only happen if the clubs vote it, not sure why the clubs would entertain it unless it's to suit themselves, which is usually the case.

Club members should ballot it with their membership and inform their county delegates to vote against it.

If it goes ahead, then it's the clubs, your clubs, that you are members of, or not, have agreed it, via a vote.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 13, 2024, 09:13:54 PM
I believe the plan was to have Div 1A of 8 and 1B of 8. Dunloy playing in SFC & Div 3 football put a spanner in the plan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on January 13, 2024, 11:30:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2024, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: ck on January 13, 2024, 08:51:07 PMBonkers stuff!
A Div.1 of 10 teams max would be ideal. It would be competitive and give the league credibility. A 16 team league would be farce.. in most counties, especially Antrim.


It'll only happen if the clubs vote it, not sure why the clubs would entertain it unless it's to suit themselves, which is usually the case.

Club members should ballot it with their membership and inform their county delegates to vote against it.

If it goes ahead, then it's the clubs, your clubs, that you are members of, or not, have agreed it, via a vote.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 14, 2024, 10:38:19 AM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on January 13, 2024, 09:13:54 PMI believe the plan was to have Div 1A of 8 and 1B of 8. Dunloy playing in SFC & Div 3 football put a spanner in the plan.

Would it not be more cause certain clubs didn't finish last season high enough to earn a top 8 place ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 11:36:20 AM
The 1A and 1B arguments make no sense.

1A is division 1 by another name, but the proposal that I saw had the lowest 4 teams in 1A and 1B form 1B the following year.

So if 1A are the teams ranked 1-8 in the county and 1B are teams ranked 9-16, in 2025 that means we'll have 1-4 and 9-12 in the same division and 5-8 and 12-16 in the same.

It's ludicrous.

And div 2 is 10 teams but still has a split? It's completely pointless.

And sure we'll arbitrarily move either Dunloy up to senior and Ballymena down because might as well commit to the poorly thought out idea
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 15, 2024, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 11:36:20 AMThe 1A and 1B arguments make no sense.

1A is division 1 by another name, but the proposal that I saw had the lowest 4 teams in 1A and 1B form 1B the following year.

So if 1A are the teams ranked 1-8 in the county and 1B are teams ranked 9-16, in 2025 that means we'll have 1-4 and 9-12 in the same division and 5-8 and 12-16 in the same.



It's ludicrous.

And div 2 is 10 teams but still has a split? It's completely pointless.

And sure we'll arbitrarily move either Dunloy up to senior and Ballymena down because might as well commit to the poorly thought out idea

Agree with those points entirely!
The proposal you talk of was an option , not the best one at all.
A few clubs took the hump that they'd be in 1B ....so we have a proposed 16 team Div 1. Div 2 spilt  + championship games equals a maximum of 20 game season for football only clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on January 15, 2024, 03:07:54 PM
What is the Antrim team likely to look like on 1st League Outing?
Are any of the injured guys back? McCabe? CJ? Loughran?
Have any of the new lads impressed enough to get a starting jersey?
I fear it could be a tough league campaign coming up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 15, 2024, 03:09:25 PM
Are these proposals going to improve the standard of Division 1? answer is no. Are these proposals going to lower the standard in Divison 1? the answer is yes.
I look forward to hearing how the All Saints Chairman (member of working group) justifies his club being parachuted into Division 1 and whether he can keep a straight face while doing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on January 15, 2024, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 11:36:20 AMThe 1A and 1B arguments make no sense.

1A is division 1 by another name, but the proposal that I saw had the lowest 4 teams in 1A and 1B form 1B the following year.

So if 1A are the teams ranked 1-8 in the county and 1B are teams ranked 9-16, in 2025 that means we'll have 1-4 and 9-12 in the same division and 5-8 and 12-16 in the same.



It's ludicrous.

And div 2 is 10 teams but still has a split? It's completely pointless.

And sure we'll arbitrarily move either Dunloy up to senior and Ballymena down because might as well commit to the poorly thought out idea

Agree with those points entirely!
The proposal you talk of was an option , not the best one at all.
A few clubs took the hump that they'd be in 1B ....so we have a proposed 16 team Div 1. Div 2 spilt  + championship games equals a maximum of 20 game season for football only clubs


I skimmed the newer one that was doing the rounds but looked a whole lot the same so didn't read fully. But surely throwing in H&A for div 2 is fair enough. It'd only equate to 4 more matches and actually means we get few of a bunch of dead rubbers.

I'd be embarrassed to be one of the people putting this forward to save face for their club. Take your medicine and if you're good enough you're good enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 15, 2024, 03:09:25 PMAre these proposals going to improve the standard of Division 1? answer is no. Are these proposals going to lower the standard in Divison 1? the answer is yes.
I look forward to hearing how the All Saints Chairman (member of working group) justifies his club being parachuted into Division 1 and whether he can keep a straight face while doing it.


Who else was in the working group that put this forward? I'd guess a Galls man or someone sympathetic to them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2024, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 15, 2024, 03:09:25 PMAre these proposals going to improve the standard of Division 1? answer is no. Are these proposals going to lower the standard in Divison 1? the answer is yes.
I look forward to hearing how the All Saints Chairman (member of working group) justifies his club being parachuted into Division 1 and whether he can keep a straight face while doing it.


Who else was in the working group that put this forward? I'd guess a Galls man or someone sympathetic to them

Curious as to why it would work better for us?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2024, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 15, 2024, 03:09:25 PMAre these proposals going to improve the standard of Division 1? answer is no. Are these proposals going to lower the standard in Divison 1? the answer is yes.
I look forward to hearing how the All Saints Chairman (member of working group) justifies his club being parachuted into Division 1 and whether he can keep a straight face while doing it.


Who else was in the working group that put this forward? I'd guess a Galls man or someone sympathetic to them

Curious as to why it would work better for us?

The working model I heard before this latest proposal was reducing div 1 down to ten teams which would mean in the current standings galls drop to div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2024, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2024, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 15, 2024, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 15, 2024, 03:09:25 PMAre these proposals going to improve the standard of Division 1? answer is no. Are these proposals going to lower the standard in Divison 1? the answer is yes.
I look forward to hearing how the All Saints Chairman (member of working group) justifies his club being parachuted into Division 1 and whether he can keep a straight face while doing it.


Who else was in the working group that put this forward? I'd guess a Galls man or someone sympathetic to them

Curious as to why it would work better for us?

The working model I heard before this latest proposal was reducing div 1 down to ten teams which would mean in the current standings galls drop to div 2

And?

You know we dropped to Div 2 (north at long ago)before?  did us no harm whatsoever

You play the level you're at, if we have to play intermediate that's where we'd be at.

Anyone clinging on just to stay in Div 1 is only fooling themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on January 15, 2024, 08:20:25 PM
Couldn't agree more MR2. It's just a false reading on where clubs are at by restructuring leagues etc. Every team is cyclical and  if you are lucky you can ride the bumps and keep at the higher level. This is just a nonsense restructure  and we will be back having another one to sort of out the mess that is coming this season, if not for next season-definitely  for the one after.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 16, 2024, 09:12:18 AM
I think a restructure is needed. But not a 16 team div 1. There is too big of a gap between top of 2 and bottom. The initial 1a 1b looked very competative making 4 leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on January 16, 2024, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 16, 2024, 09:12:18 AMI think a restructure is needed. But not a 16 team div 1. There is too big of a gap between top of 2 and bottom. The initial 1a 1b looked very competative making 4 leagues
Armagh league is 1a- 8 teams, 1b 8 teams, 2a- 8 teams, 2b- 8-teams, with junior also split between a and b which makes for competitive games at all levels in the main.  Two up two down.  Previously, had the 16 team senior league 16 team intermediate league and rest in junior and quite a few mismatches in league games.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 16, 2024, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: statto on January 16, 2024, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 16, 2024, 09:12:18 AMI think a restructure is needed. But not a 16 team div 1. There is too big of a gap between top of 2 and bottom. The initial 1a 1b looked very competative making 4 leagues
Armagh league is 1a- 8 teams, 1b 8 teams, 2a- 8 teams, 2b- 8-teams, with junior also split between a and b which makes for competitive games at all levels in the main.  Two up two down.  Previously, had the 16 team senior league 16 team intermediate league and rest in junior and quite a few mismatches in league games.   

Yes an 8 team league makes absolute sense (my club have proposed exactly this). It will be competitive, every game will mean something and it will give the league credibility. 2 up, 2 down. Its the only decent option.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:56:47 AM
Quote from: ck on January 16, 2024, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: statto on January 16, 2024, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 16, 2024, 09:12:18 AMI think a restructure is needed. But not a 16 team div 1. There is too big of a gap between top of 2 and bottom. The initial 1a 1b looked very competative making 4 leagues
Armagh league is 1a- 8 teams, 1b 8 teams, 2a- 8 teams, 2b- 8-teams, with junior also split between a and b which makes for competitive games at all levels in the main.  Two up two down.  Previously, had the 16 team senior league 16 team intermediate league and rest in junior and quite a few mismatches in league games.   

Yes an 8 team league makes absolute sense (my club have proposed exactly this). It will be competitive, every game will mean something and it will give the league credibility. 2 up, 2 down. Its the only decent option.

If we are realistic, there are only 5 clubs who could truly be considered as Div 1 clubs.

The rest of Div 1 are teams are a level down on them.

And of those there are maybe 3 or 4 who belong at that in between level and the rest are clubs that battle to stay up, yo-yo teams for want of a better category.

They are as far off challenging the top 5 as those at the top of Div 2 currently.

So 8 and 8 should make the most sense with 2 up and 2 down, or even a play off between 2nd bottom and 2nd top if there was the desire for that extra game.

It made sense the other year when Aghagallon played Ballymena, as one was a Div 1 team as the result fairly put both teams in the division they should be playing at, despite what had gone on in the season up to that point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on January 16, 2024, 11:10:25 AM
Was it agreed last night with the divisions or is it still not confirmed? will the 8 div 1b teams all be SFC or will they be able to play IFC if they choose?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on January 16, 2024, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on January 15, 2024, 08:20:25 PMCouldn't agree more MR2. It's just a false reading on where clubs are at by restructuring leagues etc. Every team is cyclical and  if you are lucky you can ride the bumps and keep at the higher level. This is just a nonsense restructure  and we will be back having another one to sort of out the mess that is coming this season, if not for next season-definitely  for the one after.

No one came to rescue Aghagallon when they were relegated controversially to division 3 not too long ago. This restructuring craic has went on for years when certain clubs have someone on the committee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2024, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 16, 2024, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on January 15, 2024, 08:20:25 PMCouldn't agree more MR2. It's just a false reading on where clubs are at by restructuring leagues etc. Every team is cyclical and  if you are lucky you can ride the bumps and keep at the higher level. This is just a nonsense restructure  and we will be back having another one to sort of out the mess that is coming this season, if not for next season-definitely  for the one after.

No one came to rescue Aghagallon when they were relegated controversially to division 3 not too long ago. This restructuring craic has went on for years when certain clubs have someone on the committee.

I'm not sure why we have to go over this again....

Clubs propose changes to suit themselves, always has been the way.

But they are just proposals

It is up to the clubs to vote it through

If no one came to Aghagallon's rescue then that was down to the other clubs thinking the proposal didn't suit the majority, or they wanted just to include Antrim clubs  ;)

If people are (at least on here) that concerned then they need to torture their club Sec and county delegates to ensure they getting what's best for their club or best for raising the standard of the leagues

9 times out of 10 it will fall on deaf ears, most delegates just follow the herd

The county can propose things too and there will also be amendments but its down to the clubs..

I've not seen a year go by that one club or another isn't trying to 'fix' it for themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 17, 2024, 11:25:12 AM
So nothing from that meeting that happened on Monday?

Asked our secretary and they didn't go and heard nothing yet  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2024, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 17, 2024, 11:25:12 AMSo nothing from that meeting that happened on Monday?

Asked our secretary and they didn't go and heard nothing yet  ::)

Yeah, not surprised, but its then pointless complaining about something (not you, in general) if your club doesn't put its own position of its members

Remember something was changed years ago, it affected a team I was looking after, explained my position to the then club committee and was told that the committee is voted in by the members to take decisions for them!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 17, 2024, 11:27:11 PM
4 Belfast schools in McLarnon 1/4 finals. Surely that's a good sign?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 18, 2024, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 17, 2024, 11:27:11 PM4 Belfast schools in McLarnon 1/4 finals. Surely that's a good sign?

Are you including Knock?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 18, 2024, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 18, 2024, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 17, 2024, 11:27:11 PM4 Belfast schools in McLarnon 1/4 finals. Surely that's a good sign?

Are you including Knock?
As a Belfast school? I imagine so...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 18, 2024, 10:13:07 AM
Knock through to the semi final now. Aquinas v Abbey (Donegal) postponed from today to Monday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 18, 2024, 10:57:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 18, 2024, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 18, 2024, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on January 17, 2024, 11:27:11 PM4 Belfast schools in McLarnon 1/4 finals. Surely that's a good sign?

Are you including Knock?
As a Belfast school? I imagine so...

Mostly Down players by the looks of that panel, heck even one of our lads lined out and he doesn't play club football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on January 18, 2024, 11:11:42 AM
Shea Pucci with 2-00?
Aquinas and Knock would be filled with Carryduff, Bredagh and St Paul's players. The former two are two of the biggest clubs in Ulster and consistently strong at underage level so it only makes sense that that should translate into these schools. Hopefully it continues and keeps progressing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 18, 2024, 11:50:22 AM
Plenty of Naomh Brid players spread across those teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 18, 2024, 11:53:01 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on January 18, 2024, 11:11:42 AMShea Pucci with 2-00?
Aquinas and Knock would be filled with Carryduff, Bredagh and St Paul's players. The former two are two of the biggest clubs in Ulster and consistently strong at underage level so it only makes sense that that should translate into these schools. Hopefully it continues and keeps progressing.

Yeah, big lad grabbed two yesterday.
Some other fine hurlers lined out for Knock in the football yesterday, will be interesting to see how their heads are turned when it comes to adult, Liam Blayney and Luke Doran in particular. Liam went with the minor footballers last year instead of the hurlers, Luke Doran might still be county minor age this year.

Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 18, 2024, 11:50:22 AMPlenty of Naomh Brid players spread across those teams.
yes, and a few others affiliated to St Enda's and other West Belfast clubs but living in the south of the city.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 18, 2024, 12:25:26 PM
I've seen Bla(y)ney play hurling at minor and he is some operator.

Good to see these schools doing well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on January 18, 2024, 01:40:13 PM
Anybody know the format of football league Divisions 2 and 3...?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 18, 2024, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 18, 2024, 01:40:13 PMAnybody know the format of football league Divisions 2 and 3...?


Sure only div 1 matters lad, thats why theres so many teams in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2024, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 18, 2024, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 18, 2024, 01:40:13 PMAnybody know the format of football league Divisions 2 and 3...?


Sure only div 1 matters lad, thats why theres so many teams in it

I tend to find the answers to these questions are already known by the person posting it ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 18, 2024, 01:59:35 PM
I assume you mean the answer to the question is already know  :P

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2024, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on January 18, 2024, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on January 18, 2024, 01:40:13 PMAnybody know the format of football league Divisions 2 and 3...?


Sure only div 1 matters lad, thats why theres so many teams in it

I tend to find these questions are already known by the person posting it ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2024, 04:12:34 PM
Fixed that  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2024, 06:16:21 PM
Were there any moneyglass players playing for the ladies today? Carey a huge loss but Prenter and 2 o'neills big losses too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 21, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 21, 2024, 06:16:21 PMWere there any moneyglass players playing for the ladies today? Carey a huge loss but Prenter and 2 o'neills big losses too.

No, Moneyglass boycott
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2024, 07:14:42 PM
Really...why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 21, 2024, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 21, 2024, 07:14:42 PMReally...why?

Since the Dunaghmoyne match earlier in the season I assume, when the minor game couldn't be rearranged on the same day as the senior game and players had to play both.

I remember hearing at the time they were that annoyed that they wouldn't play for Antrim this year. They have followed through on that by the look of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2024, 07:41:47 PM
That's a real shame as the ladies had been progressing so well and that will not help at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 21, 2024, 07:44:38 PM
No players on minor panel either. All city girls on senior panel apart from 3/4 maybe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2024, 07:47:25 PM
That'll show them!

Rise above, or throw your toys out of the pram?

No winners
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 21, 2024, 08:03:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2024, 07:47:25 PMThat'll show them!

Rise above, or throw your toys out of the pram?

No winners

Don't know the ins and outs to be honest but it looked shocking bad on the LGFA county board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on January 21, 2024, 08:06:47 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/10/20/news/moneyglass_hit_out_at_scheduling_mess_over_ladies_games-3716358/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 21, 2024, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2024, 07:47:25 PMThat'll show them!

Rise above, or throw your toys out of the pram?

No winners

Damaging result today for ladies team; Louth would have been targeted for a win. If M'Glass really are boycotting, well that's a shame and should be reversed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: WattyMan on January 22, 2024, 12:51:58 AM
Hi lads, where's Oso? I remember telling him that we were building for bigger games and he didn't believe me?

Ah well

Some people will never listen  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on January 22, 2024, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 21, 2024, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2024, 07:47:25 PMThat'll show them!

Rise above, or throw your toys out of the pram?

No winners

Damaging result today for ladies team; Louth would have been targeted for a win. If M'Glass really are boycotting, well that's a shame and should be reversed.

Gutting. We could've done a Meath

Need all on board

Prenter a catastrophic loss
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 22, 2024, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 21, 2024, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2024, 07:47:25 PMThat'll show them!

Rise above, or throw your toys out of the pram?

No winners

Damaging result today for ladies team; Louth would have been targeted for a win. If M'Glass really are boycotting, well that's a shame and should be reversed.
I read somewhere Cathy Carey is part of the management at home games so doesn't seem like a boycott. If there is a boycott its obviously a result the treatment they got the day of the minor final last year which was totally pathetic from all parties involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2024, 08:32:26 AM
The SG said there were 12 players gone from last year. Prenter would near get on most teams in the country based on what you read and those 2 O'Neills are very good too not to mention others. Big losses which is a pity given how well they have been progressing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 22, 2024, 09:16:42 AM
If so youd have to back moneyglass to a certain degree. Antrim LGFA had the power to help them out and refused to budge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 22, 2024, 09:18:19 AM
Big test on sunday away to Limerick fresh out of Division2 . Hopefully we can get the season off to a positive start. Good to have the leagues back now just need the weather to sort itself out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 22, 2024, 09:33:56 AM
While it is all a fall out over the farce that happened from the fixtures last year, the players do have other reasons.

Prenter is travelling for the year and has promised to come back when she returns. Whether that is the full year or not remains to be seen. She is a class act and a big loss. As mentioned above, she could play for any county in Ireland.

Carey has retired from county.

The O'Neill's are rightly focusing on their education, one is doing A-Levels the other in final year at Uni.

The Devlin's have told management they are focusing on camogie this year for TNN and trying to give it a push, although they are also coaching underage football at MG.

The others I don't know as much about but all of that came from someone on the county management team that would definitely know the craic.

There wasn't as much feedback from the others as to why they weren't playing this year which probably says they had no good reason other than the boycott.

It is a real pity that they finally make it up to Div 3 and then the team falls apart.

It left them without a free taker and a goalkeeper, although one was transferred from Fermanagh as she is playing for St Pauls now.

We could have given it a real push and it will be hard to even stay up this year to hope that some of those players return next year.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 22, 2024, 12:56:49 PM
Maybe is just a coincidence then. Looked the saffron gael to see a 4 point defeat. Was expecting 20 by the comments on here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2024, 01:28:34 PM
Tubridy and McLaughlin missing too who are big losses.

Yes Limerick big game this weekend. They've experience at that higher level too. Hoping for a win. I am not sure I can remember us beating Limerick too many times but hopefully that will change. Need a win as this league could end up with promotion or relegation so a good start is vital.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 22, 2024, 02:14:30 PM
Even though they were league leaders at the time we beat them handy by ten points or more under Lenny, in Portglenone.

Big ask this weekend, a lot of rookies thrown in, high percentage of players in years one or two of senior career.

Given we have so many players unavailable it would be a great achievement to finish mid table and hope that half a dozen players ftom injured list present themselves for selection as the year goes on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2024, 02:38:13 PM
Ah that's right - mind that one now BS.

Yeah I think we will get it tight in that league. Staying up main aim I think and anything more a bonus. Hopefully more players back for championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 22, 2024, 03:10:10 PM
yes that was a great win over them in Portglenone. One of our worst qualifier defeats was at home to Limerick in Corrigan, probably 5 years ago or so. Terrible game all round. Hopefully a few positives to come this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on January 22, 2024, 03:26:18 PM
Was in dunsilly at weekend at the centre of participation/excellence the nets on the goals have been lying draped from crossbar a few months now surely someone could put them up with a cable tie or two
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2024, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on January 22, 2024, 03:26:18 PMWas in dunsilly at weekend at the centre of participation/excellence the nets on the goals have been lying draped from crossbar a few months now surely someone could put them up with a cable tie or two

Can get a bit blustery over the winter.

I only keep the cable ties in the car for special occasions when
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on January 23, 2024, 10:44:30 AM
any word on club fixtures?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 23, 2024, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on January 23, 2024, 10:44:30 AMany word on club fixtures?


Magic eight-ball says "Ask again tomorrow"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on January 23, 2024, 03:11:45 PM
Potential Antrim line up for trip to Limerick?

Byrne
Boyle
Walsh
Morgan
R McCann
Finnegan
McAleese
Quinn
Hynds
McGettigan
McBride
Beatty
Domo
McCann
Jordan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 23, 2024, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on January 23, 2024, 03:11:45 PMPotential Antrim line up for trip to Limerick?

Byrne
Boyle
Walsh
Morgan
R McCann
Finnegan
McAleese
Quinn
Hynds
McGettigan
McBride
Beatty
Domo
McCann
Jordan

Are beatty and mcaleese both fit? both didnt feature last mckenna cup game. Id expect to see both d lynch and p mcaleer on the starting team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2024, 03:53:57 PM
Beatty had an operation there maybe last week. (I saw the rossa twitter page wishing him good luck).

Dunno on McAleese. Not sure McEnhill fit either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AirlockCityCentre on January 24, 2024, 03:38:52 PM
Was there any word on the championship structure from the meeting the other night? (Assuming it went ahead)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2024, 10:02:57 AM
All Belfast semi final in MaClarnon  Cup tomorrow, Knock v Rathmore in Beechmount. Aquinas went out yesterday, Abbey from Donegal a very strong team, won't be easily beaten.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AM
how are St Malachys and St Marys CBS performing these days?

which Belfast school is the closest to competing at McRory Level?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 25, 2024, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: AirlockCityCentre on January 24, 2024, 03:38:52 PMWas there any word on the championship structure from the meeting the other night? (Assuming it went ahead)
Two options will be discussed on Mon 29th
1. Stay as we are
2. Div 1 x 16; Div 2 x 10 teams; Div3 x 8

1 team relegated from league ; 1 from championship via playoffs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2024, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMhow are St Malachys and St Marys CBS performing these days?

which Belfast school is the closest to competing at McRory Level?

Don't know what grade CBS and St Malachys are in; we will see tomorrow which school is closest to McCrory level I suppose. But I imagine none will move into McCrory before winning MacClarnon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 25, 2024, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2024, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMhow are St Malachys and St Marys CBS performing these days?

which Belfast school is the closest to competing at McRory Level?

Don't know what grade CBS and St Malachys are in; we will see tomorrow which school is closest to McCrory level I suppose. But I imagine none will move into McCrory before winning MacClarnon.

CBS are McLarnon

St Malachys are a level down (Is it Markey Cup??)

However, they are strong further down the school so I would say by the time those lads reach the age they will be McLarnon.

I would doubt any of them with be MacRory Cup any time soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on January 26, 2024, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 25, 2024, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2024, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMhow are St Malachys and St Marys CBS performing these days?

which Belfast school is the closest to competing at McRory Level?

Don't know what grade CBS and St Malachys are in; we will see tomorrow which school is closest to McCrory level I suppose. But I imagine none will move into McCrory before winning MacClarnon.

CBS are McLarnon

St Malachys are a level down (Is it Markey Cup??)

However, they are strong further down the school so I would say by the time those lads reach the age they will be McLarnon.

I would doubt any of them with be MacRory Cup any time soon.

Knock and Rathmore do battle this evening in Colaiste Feirste in the McLarnon semi-final.

All Belfast clash, but not an all Antrim clash..

Gaelfast take note.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2024, 10:50:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 26, 2024, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 25, 2024, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2024, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMhow are St Malachys and St Marys CBS performing these days?

which Belfast school is the closest to competing at McRory Level?

Don't know what grade CBS and St Malachys are in; we will see tomorrow which school is closest to McCrory level I suppose. But I imagine none will move into McCrory before winning MacClarnon.

CBS are McLarnon

St Malachys are a level down (Is it Markey Cup??)

However, they are strong further down the school so I would say by the time those lads reach the age they will be McLarnon.

I would doubt any of them with be MacRory Cup any time soon.

Knock and Rathmore do battle this evening in Colaiste Feirste in the McLarnon semi-final.

All Belfast clash, but not an all Antrim clash..

Gaelfast take note.




Gaelfast by name I'm assuming its for Belfast? I didn't think it was looking at the boundary of the Lagan when it was set up and plenty of lads getting good exposure to higher end college football can only be a good thing.

What input do Gaelfast have in the schools?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 26, 2024, 06:50:43 PM
All Antrim schools now out of the McLarnon Cup. Can't be a good thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2024, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 26, 2024, 06:50:43 PMAll Antrim schools now out of the McLarnon Cup. Can't be a good thing.

There are Antrim lads playing for Knock
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 26, 2024, 07:06:13 PM
Some play for Magherafelt too. I wouldn't suggest that an Antrim school is in the MacRory Cup semi final tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2024, 08:31:35 PM
Well I assume you say 'All Antrim schools now out of the McLarnon Cup. Can't be a good thing' on the basis that Antrim players aren't playing in latter stages?

I'm pointing out that there are Antrim players who will be playing for Knock in the final, and that is a good thing for Antrim.

Just an observation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 26, 2024, 09:55:08 PM
To be fair, perhaps I was being facetious in reference to the "good thing for Antrim" comments made previously.
Seeing as you have made it again, can I ask what that sentiment is based on?
It's just I don't think I've ever seen a link between Antrim teams doing well in this and football improving in Antrim.
Maybe I'm wrong but Antrim teams won (not just did well, but actually buckin won) this competition in 2006, 2008 and 2011 and for the life of me I can't see how it had any positive impact on the standard, quality or fortunes of football in our county.
It is of course nice to see schools from Antrim have success in colleges football but its place in the bigger picture is negligible, it seems.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 26, 2024, 09:58:56 PM
I think it's good thing for Antrim players to be playing at a reasonably high level of schools football. Better that than them all to lose and exit competitions early

That's about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 28, 2024, 10:55:37 AM
Hopefully we will get radio coverage for today's game. Limerick FM usually has commentary for their home games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2024, 01:00:02 PM
Going well atm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2024, 01:51:58 PM
Game tighter now
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 28, 2024, 02:04:48 PM
Nearly there great result Saffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on January 28, 2024, 02:24:55 PM
7 point win away, you'd take that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2024, 02:38:43 PM
Great start to the league. As well as anything else it means you don't start off on the back foot. Win another couple and anything possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2024, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 28, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGreat start to the league. As well as anything else it means you don't start off on the back foot. Win another couple and anything possible.

Considering players missing or injured and not available for various reasons that's a pretty decent result for the second best team in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 28, 2024, 05:45:33 PM
I admit I'm a little bit surprised- pleasantly so - at that result. 2.14 is a big score to run up too and without the player who is our biggest goal threat. Augurs well for the campaign ahead. If we beat Offaly, who lost today, we are in great shape for a promotion tilt rather than a relegation fight. Well done Andy and squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 28, 2024, 09:17:08 PM
Good result today. Limerick are relegation favs but still its a good showing away from home with a convincing win. Well done all. Much toucher games ahead though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on January 29, 2024, 08:43:46 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 28, 2024, 05:45:33 PMI admit I'm a little bit surprised- pleasantly so - at that result. 2.14 is a big score to run up too and without the player who is our biggest goal threat. Augurs well for the campaign ahead. If we beat Offaly, who lost today, we are in great shape for a promotion tilt rather than a relegation fight. Well done Andy and squad.

Is there any news on those 2 who pulled out through injury?

Didn't hear what the injuries were.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 08:47:17 AM
Are Adam Loughran and Conchuir Johnston on the panel this year? Awful lot of injuries as Quinn was looking good too and then I guess you have the likes of Healy too.

I saw some highlights of Offaly Westmeath and Offaly looked sharp enough. Be a good result to beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on January 29, 2024, 10:41:07 AM
Pretty sure both are ITG, two gooduns too... both top grade imo.

Good to see Niall Burns get a debut yesterday, another good player who definitely deserves his chance.

Dommo in some form, stepping up under a manager who gives him confidence to do his stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on January 29, 2024, 10:52:08 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 29, 2024, 08:43:46 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 28, 2024, 05:45:33 PMI admit I'm a little bit surprised- pleasantly so - at that result. 2.14 is a big score to run up too and without the player who is our biggest goal threat. Augurs well for the campaign ahead. If we beat Offaly, who lost today, we are in great shape for a promotion tilt rather than a relegation fight. Well done Andy and squad.

Is there any news on those 2 who pulled out through injury?

Didn't hear what the injuries were.

What 2?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 10:53:13 AM
Cathal Hynds and McCann (Aghagallon) were named to start but didn't with injury.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 29, 2024, 11:10:17 AM
Quote from: ck on January 28, 2024, 09:17:08 PMGood result today. Limerick are relegation favs but still its a good showing away from home with a convincing win. Well done all. Much toucher games ahead though.

We'll take it.  a good start, that's all we can ask for.  expected to be a tight league so any points gained will be worth it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 29, 2024, 12:02:05 PM
All the negatives around the McKenna cup gone now? Better looking squad now. Good to see Burns getting a start, scoring forward we need making a league debut with Keenan also making a solid start. McAleese back fit hopefully he gets a good run injury wise. Throw Peter Healy back in along with hopefully McCabe, Loughran and a few others we're looking in decent shape! Is there any chance of seeing Ryan Murray in an Antrim jersey this year? Eastwood?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on January 30, 2024, 09:47:10 AM
Any word on the leagues for the year coming? Meeting last night as far as I understand
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2024, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 30, 2024, 09:47:10 AMAny word on the leagues for the year coming? Meeting last night as far as I understand

Think it went on late enough
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 30, 2024, 10:54:17 AM
16 Team Div 1 passed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2024, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 30, 2024, 10:54:17 AM16 Team Div 1 passed

Play once and breaks into  top and bottom?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on January 30, 2024, 11:47:32 AM
Play once. Bottom team relegated. Top 4 play in semi final and league final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 30, 2024, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: BelSaft on January 30, 2024, 11:47:32 AMPlay once. Bottom team relegated. Top 4 play in semi final and league final.

Apparently top 4 playoffs for league and bottom 4 playoff for relegation. One down. One relegated via championship also. Must be bottom team of each group into playoffs. Dunloy senior and seeded and Ballymena playing intermediate
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on January 30, 2024, 12:32:49 PM
Congrats to Ballymena and Aldergrove on their promotion to Division 1, what an achievement lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on January 30, 2024, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 30, 2024, 10:54:17 AM16 Team Div 1 passed

Big step in the wrong direction. Silly move. Would love to hear the justification for this. It will simply demean the league even further.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2024, 12:44:16 PM
The relegation battle from division one was more interesting than half the championship. Really can't understand why they've done this. Bad move.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 30, 2024, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on January 30, 2024, 12:32:49 PMCongrats to Ballymena and Aldergrove on their promotion to Division 1, what an achievement lads

Dont forget the teams who have dodged the drop
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on January 30, 2024, 01:39:12 PM
What a farce
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: general_lee on January 30, 2024, 01:43:01 PM
So 16 teams in Division 1... what teams make up each division for 2024?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2024, 01:47:30 PM
Some games will be handier enough to ref ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on January 30, 2024, 06:16:58 PM
J Brady pushing to get Ballymena into div 1 but enters intermediate championship,sweet mother off fazan,what's the point
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 30, 2024, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: referee on January 30, 2024, 06:16:58 PMJ Brady pushing to get Ballymena into div 1 but enters intermediate championship,sweet mother off fazan,what's the point
They are in IFC because Dunloy are in SFC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on January 31, 2024, 08:34:27 AM
perhaps there is something i am not seeing here (and i will hold my hands up if that is the case) but filling the Division 1 league with teams that are clearly nowhere near that level doesn't sound like something that will improve all round quality.   There were already 1 or 2 struggling last year (and were relegated). The only chance these teams have is to gain some points when the top teams send their reserve teams down at the start of the season. Those poorer teams may marginally improve as a result but the quality of the league as a whole declines. 

As i say, happy to be wrong. Just would like to know the proper thinking on this and why they see this as benefitting Division 1 and Antrim football.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2024, 08:49:35 AM
When top teams send their reserves down to the lesser teams, they may also have lesser teams out due to their own county players being unavailable, they'll suffer far more than the top teams for the loss of their better players

Getting home advantage against the stronger teams will prove important for deciding the league placings at the end for the playoffs. Hopefully the playoffs will be done prior to championship as it will provide a bitta extra spice  leading into the championship

Lets try and look at the positives before dishing it straight away ;)

On that, was watching the lads train hard last night in prep for Sunday's important game. Need to build on that performance away last weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 31, 2024, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2024, 08:49:35 AMWhen top teams send their reserves down to the lesser teams, they may also have lesser teams out due to their own county players being unavailable, they'll suffer far more than the top teams for the loss of their better players

Getting home advantage against the stronger teams will prove important for deciding the league placings at the end for the playoffs. Hopefully the playoffs will be done prior to championship as it will provide a bitta extra spice  leading into the championship

Lets try and look at the positives before dishing it straight away ;)

On that, was watching the lads train hard last night in prep for Sunday's important game. Need to build on that performance away last weekend

any signs of any of the missing lads? loughran etc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2024, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 31, 2024, 10:09:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2024, 08:49:35 AMWhen top teams send their reserves down to the lesser teams, they may also have lesser teams out due to their own county players being unavailable, they'll suffer far more than the top teams for the loss of their better players

Getting home advantage against the stronger teams will prove important for deciding the league placings at the end for the playoffs. Hopefully the playoffs will be done prior to championship as it will provide a bitta extra spice  leading into the championship

Lets try and look at the positives before dishing it straight away ;)

On that, was watching the lads train hard last night in prep for Sunday's important game. Need to build on that performance away last weekend

any signs of any of the missing lads? loughran etc

Not too many on the injured sidelines and the those not participating with full training were doing strengthening  drills. I was Ref'ing on other pitch so not sure if the ones you mentioned were there
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Delgany 2nds on January 31, 2024, 12:03:50 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 31, 2024, 08:34:27 AMperhaps there is something i am not seeing here (and i will hold my hands up if that is the case) but filling the Division 1 league with teams that are clearly nowhere near that level doesn't sound like something that will improve all round quality.   There were already 1 or 2 struggling last year (and were relegated). The only chance these teams have is to gain some points when the top teams send their reserve teams down at the start of the season. Those poorer teams may marginally improve as a result but the quality of the league as a whole declines. 

As i say, happy to be wrong. Just would like to know the proper thinking on this and why they see this as benefitting Division 1 and Antrim football.   

In two years time it will go Div1A (8 teams), 1B (8 teams), Div 2 (10), Div 3 (8/10)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2024, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on January 31, 2024, 12:03:50 PM
Quote from: Spike on January 31, 2024, 08:34:27 AMperhaps there is something i am not seeing here (and i will hold my hands up if that is the case) but filling the Division 1 league with teams that are clearly nowhere near that level doesn't sound like something that will improve all round quality.   There were already 1 or 2 struggling last year (and were relegated). The only chance these teams have is to gain some points when the top teams send their reserve teams down at the start of the season. Those poorer teams may marginally improve as a result but the quality of the league as a whole declines. 

As i say, happy to be wrong. Just would like to know the proper thinking on this and why they see this as benefitting Division 1 and Antrim football.   

In two years time it will go Div1A (8 teams), 1B (8 teams), Div 2 (10), Div 3 (8/10)

Until someone gets relegated  ;)  puts in a motion....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2024, 07:22:12 AM
Good test of where we're at on sunday. Hard to know with one game how good bad or indifferent the opposition were / are but I definitely thought we would get it tight with Limerick and was pleasantly surprised. Any highlights I saw of Offaly-Westmeath Offaly didn't look too bad and Westmeath are a good team. It's a good test for us but I'd be hopeful of a win.

Hopefully some of the injured players are back.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 02, 2024, 11:46:54 AM
Don't think any of the injured are  expected back so soon ITG. Another opportunity for squad players to stake a place for increased game time. Looking forward to this one, Offaly will be a tough nut to crack but we should be thereabouts at the finish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2024, 11:59:32 AM
Even McCann and Hynds from last week BS?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2024, 10:41:03 AM
Team announced yesterday and its exactly the same team that played against Limerick, albeit a few positional changes. Good luck to team and all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2024, 03:36:07 PM
Never in doubt  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2024, 05:53:09 PM
Another good result and considering we had 14 for a good bit too. Still quite a few to come back so that's positive. One more win and I think we'd be safe then it's bonus territory. Very unpredictable division looking round the results.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2024, 08:34:31 PM
I would have taken your arm off for a one point victory before the game. Wasn't pretty, but with backs to the wall we managed to hang in and come out with 2 points. Seen those points dropped many times, well done to Andy and lads for digging in and grabbing both points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 04, 2024, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 04, 2024, 08:34:31 PMI would have taken your arm off for a one point victory before the game. Wasn't pretty, but with backs to the wall we managed to hang in and come out with 2 points. Seen those points dropped many times, well done to Andy and lads for digging in and grabbing both points.

Agreed

Delighted.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 05, 2024, 06:52:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2024, 03:36:07 PMNever in doubt  :o

Just giving us value for money.

Super start after the first 2 games. Fair play to all involved
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 05, 2024, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2024, 05:53:09 PMAnother good result and considering we had 14 for a good bit too. Still quite a few to come back so that's positive. One more win and I think we'd be safe then it's bonus territory. Very unpredictable division looking round the results.

We didn't really have 14 for too long. They had a man black carded shortly after the sending off (shocking by the way)

Decent result but a below par performance, will take some improvement to get a result against Down i would think.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 05, 2024, 10:24:52 AM
Was intrigued to see how Kavan Keenan would perform at corner back, with it being a fairly specialised position and Kavan in all liklihood never played there in his life before these last few weeks.

This on top of Eunan at FB (again, a player with natural instinct for attacking/scoring!

Both did well with Kavans touch tight man marking on Offaly dangerman No 14 a feature, and I was glad to be proved wide of the mark in my pre match analysis.

Just shows how much the game has changed - positions mean very little these days, and what Andy is obviously doing is filling jerseys with lads who have an engine for making yards all over the pitch, literally any player, keepers included, could be on any part of the pitch at any time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 05, 2024, 11:51:30 AM
Keeper surely, Byrne is some athlete, would probably make a good outfield player! You'd think both Healy and McCabe will be strong contenders to get into the full back line again. Walsh to play further out, midfield?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 11:56:10 AM
How many do we have unavailable in the current squad?

Healy
McCabe
Hynds
McCann (Aghagallon)
Loughran
Johnston

Are there more? Are the above all in the squad?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 05, 2024, 12:04:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 11:56:10 AMHow many do we have unavailable in the current squad?

Healy
McCabe
Hynds
McCann (Aghagallon)
Loughran
Johnston

Are there more? Are the above all in the squad?

yes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 05, 2024, 12:14:10 PM
There's more than that out presently!

Ryan Murray, Conchiur Johnston, Conor Stewart, Patrick Finnegan, and Stephen Beattie come to mind, all hopeful of playing some part as they year goes on.


Most or all of these 5 would be hoping to start/play championship under normal circumstances!

Kevin Small maybe won't make it back this year at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 12:17:49 PM
Beattie I think won't be back in a hurry. Forgot about Stewart and Murray and didn't realise on Finnegan.

To get 4 points considering how many we're missing is some going. Most years we wouldn't get 4 points with all those playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2024, 08:15:38 PM
Great photo on the back page of the Irish News GAA supplement - shows how much the win meant to the players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2024, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2024, 08:15:38 PMGreat photo on the back page of the Irish News GAA supplement - shows how much the win meant to the players

I suppose the sharpened knives will stay in the drawer for a bit ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on February 12, 2024, 12:36:35 PM
Any word on league starts?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:37:48 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on February 12, 2024, 12:36:35 PMAny word on league starts?

10 March for football

Easter weekend I hear for hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2024, 05:10:20 PM
Only seems like yesterday we were celebrating a SW championship treble 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2024, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 13, 2024, 05:10:20 PMOnly seems like yesterday we were celebrating a SW championship treble 😉

And still no all Irelands  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on February 16, 2024, 10:40:58 PM
Have we a decent chance on Sunday?
Should be a good crowd at it.
Any news on the injury list ,Stewart,Loughran and big McCann massive miss to the team IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on February 16, 2024, 10:40:58 PMHave we a decent chance on Sunday?
Should be a good crowd at it.
Any news on the injury list ,Stewart,Loughran and big McCann massive miss to the team IMO.

Down are a decent team and regardless of how we played last year this is difficult
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2024, 10:19:22 AM
Tough game but will be a good barometer of where we are are. Dare I say it but if we win in with a big shout of promotion....

If we had happened to beat Meath last year I think we'd have beat them in the final. Lot of change this year though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2024, 06:18:31 PM
Very disappointing performance today. Thought we looked like a team from a different division. 1.6 won't win many games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 18, 2024, 09:04:44 PM
A very poor performance. A lucky early goal kept the scoreline respectable. I thought it was far too defensive when we had the wind. 15 behind the ball with no really attacking intent.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on February 18, 2024, 10:36:33 PM
We seemed to lack confidence today and give the ball away through indecisive passes when a safer unforced pass wasn't given ,plays where made more complicated than they needed to be but that's maybe down to inexperience from a few of the younger lads.
As I said we would miss Loughran (for his line break runs) and McCann for a focal point of the attack.
Our keeper was excellent, maybe a couple of poor kickouts but for me was best player we had.
Down are a decent team so considering who we have missing I wouldn't be to worried ,was always going to be a shock for us to win today.
Down got the 50/50 calls from the ref I thought while continually overcarring the ball ,which was most evident with the build up to their goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 18, 2024, 10:46:02 PM
Agreed the ref was quick to blow our lads up for over carrying but not Down, very notable a few times. Yes Mick was our most influential player - his points and two top class saves - but that shouldn't be the case.

Staying in Div 3 the real aim so lets hope we get one or two more wins and better performances before championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2024, 11:05:11 PM
Agree Brendan, stay in Div 3 with up to 9 of last years mainstays missing will be very creditable, if that occurs. Hopefully some of the currently unavailable will be back for championship.

At eight each I was well enough pleased that we were making it competitive, disappointed that the final defecit was nine. On plus side a lot of players getting game time which going forward will lead to healthy competition for places when many of the unavailables return.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 20, 2024, 03:24:45 PM
We lost control years ago but very sad to see Casement has turned into the political football it has, at the mercy of the British Government and Gordon Lyons to increase their contribution (even with the Irish Govt money) And if its built what stipulations will it have, will N Ireland play more games there? how many Antrim Gaels will even get to avail of it? The Euros is one thing but what after that, unpopular opinion probably not even possible at this stage, but a revamped Casement in the style of Healy Park or Armagh Athletic grounds should be built if this current fiasco continues. At least it would be ours,
A balls up from the start and when you see the same faces still hanging about the project it doesn't give much hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 20, 2024, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 20, 2024, 03:24:45 PMWe lost control years ago but very sad to see Casement has turned into the political football it has, at the mercy of the British Government and Gordon Lyons to increase their contribution (even with the Irish Govt money) And if its built what stipulations will it have, will N Ireland play more games there? how many Antrim Gaels will even get to avail of it? The Euros is one thing but what after that, unpopular opinion probably not even possible at this stage, but a revamped Casement in the style of Healy Park or Armagh Athletic grounds should be built if this current fiasco continues. At least it would be ours,
A balls up from the start and when you see the same faces still hanging about the project it doesn't give much hope.

Rewind to 2012 or whenever casement closed. If the stand was redeveloped. Pitch maintained and terracing maintained we'd have a fantastic set up. The pitch/lights/space around the ground was brilliant. A new modern stand was all we needed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on February 20, 2024, 04:27:35 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 20, 2024, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 20, 2024, 03:24:45 PMWe lost control years ago but very sad to see Casement has turned into the political football it has, at the mercy of the British Government and Gordon Lyons to increase their contribution (even with the Irish Govt money) And if its built what stipulations will it have, will N Ireland play more games there? how many Antrim Gaels will even get to avail of it? The Euros is one thing but what after that, unpopular opinion probably not even possible at this stage, but a revamped Casement in the style of Healy Park or Armagh Athletic grounds should be built if this current fiasco continues. At least it would be ours,
A balls up from the start and when you see the same faces still hanging about the project it doesn't give much hope.

Rewind to 2012 or whenever casement closed. If the stand was redeveloped. Pitch maintained and terracing maintained we'd have a fantastic set up. The pitch/lights/space around the ground was brilliant. A new modern stand was all we needed
No less than six Ulster Councils officials in today's photo with Leo.  You have to laugh.  A fiasco from day one.  I've never changed my mind that an Athletic Grounds scale stadium with a good atmosphere is what we need, not a white elephant. The Maze was the place for a mega-stadium but our politicians were too infantile to make it happen. The good times foregone because we've had no stadium is unforgivable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 20, 2024, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 20, 2024, 03:24:45 PMWe lost control years ago but very sad to see Casement has turned into the political football it has, at the mercy of the British Government and Gordon Lyons to increase their contribution (even with the Irish Govt money) And if its built what stipulations will it have, will N Ireland play more games there? how many Antrim Gaels will even get to avail of it? The Euros is one thing but what after that, unpopular opinion probably not even possible at this stage, but a revamped Casement in the style of Healy Park or Armagh Athletic grounds should be built if this current fiasco continues. At least it would be ours,
A balls up from the start and when you see the same faces still hanging about the project it doesn't give much hope.

Rewind to 2012 or whenever casement closed. If the stand was redeveloped. Pitch maintained and terracing maintained we'd have a fantastic set up. The pitch/lights/space around the ground was brilliant. A new modern stand was all we needed

I agree, I always thought there was something a bit fishy about it all, as to why they didn't allow a local club to use the facilities and maintain the pitch as a way of getting free rent on the grounds.

A generation of players have missed out on ever getting to play in Casement which is such a shame.

How long were those floodlights installed before the place closed, 3 years was it?

Surely they knew what was coming so why spend that money on them knowing the stadium was the be completely redeveloped.

Unless there were a few brown envelopes skimmed off the top of the cost of them.

The current plans for Casement, while looking impressive, are totally over the top.

It is Antrim ffs, something similar to the Athletic Grounds would be perfect for all we need it for.

If they want it to replace Clones then just make it a larger Athletic Grounds, not an Aviva copy!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 20, 2024, 09:47:06 PM
Imagine if Peter Quinn agreed with most gaels at the time and decided that Croke Park just needed some updating and no need for a full new stadium then where would we be today?. He had a greater vision and we are all thankful for it now.

Same with Casement. A 35,000 seater is appropriate for Ulster finals and showcase matches in Belfast/Antrim and our games should become mainstream as part of big package weekends. It then also becomes Antrims home ground, and rightly so. It will boost GAA in the county and give a focal point for future generations.

I don't see the Norn Iron crew wanting to play there too often, if ever. It could host World Cup Rugby games, which would be great too. Concerts, events, exhibitions as well as everything Antrim GAA, on a big or small scale.

Yes it has been handled badly from the outset, in fact it has been a complete shambles. But now is not the time to start settling for 2nd best!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 20, 2024, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: ck on February 20, 2024, 09:47:06 PMImagine if Peter Quinn agreed with most gaels at the time and decided that Croke Park just needed some updating and no need for a full new stadium then where would we be today?. He had a greater vision and we are all thankful for it now.

Same with Casement. A 35,000 seater is appropriate for Ulster finals and showcase matches in Belfast/Antrim and our games should become mainstream as part of big package weekends. It then also becomes Antrims home ground, and rightly so. It will boost GAA in the county and give a focal point for future generations.

I don't see the Norn Iron crew wanting to play there too often, if ever. It could host World Cup Rugby games, which would be great too. Concerts, events, exhibitions as well as everything Antrim GAA, on a big or small scale.

Yes it has been handled badly from the outset, in fact it has been a complete shambles. But now is not the time to start settling for 2nd best!

Wouldn't be too sure of that, Antrim will be in a long queue like everyone else
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: angermanagement on February 20, 2024, 11:34:04 PM
Antrim probably had one of their biggest league football crowds in years against Down on Sunday and Corrigan still wasn't full. There's no way the new stadium will be opened up if it's not making money. Antrim GAA will get token county finals and that will be it's lot, Casement will prove no benefit to the future of Antrim GAA. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on February 21, 2024, 06:28:16 AM
Casement or whatever name its finally given as I doubt it will remain, as its public revenue being used and I would think some of our senior officials would have been aware of this for a long time. This will be a venue for everything and anything so long as its profitable and thats fair enough, but what revenue will Antrim GAA receive annually once it's opened thats the question that needs to be asked, and how do we plan to invest that going forward as i would hope that a robust Business case exists. We have lost the claim to the ground a long time ago, its not ours anymore so let's hope a good deal was negotiated back in the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on February 21, 2024, 07:43:24 AM
It'll be used for concerts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 21, 2024, 09:02:53 AM
I'd say there will be more concerts in it than Antrim matches.....certainly with regards to club matches.

Has it been decided what happens Clones once Casement is finally open?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2024, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 21, 2024, 09:02:53 AMI'd say there will be more concerts in it than Antrim matches.....certainly with regards to club matches.

Has it been decided what happens Clones once Casement is finally open?

Was there mention of doing up most county grounds around the country? Clones may have the history of holding games, but its nearly as bad as Casement before it was closed.. If Casement is built I'd say that all Ulster finals will be held at Casement and a quarter final most years

As for other sports, wouldn't be surprised that American football might get a touch, its trying to expand now and with various games being held outside of the States Casement might get an opportunity.

Who knows, it will need a serious marketing business team in place, completely independent of the Ulster council to get the most out of the ground.

No need for some clowns to be put in place by friends or mates of someone!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 21, 2024, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2024, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 21, 2024, 09:02:53 AMI'd say there will be more concerts in it than Antrim matches.....certainly with regards to club matches.

Has it been decided what happens Clones once Casement is finally open?

Was there mention of doing up most county grounds around the country? Clones may have the history of holding games, but its nearly as bad as Casement before it was closed.. If Casement is built I'd say that all Ulster finals will be held at Casement and a quarter final most years

As for other sports, wouldn't be surprised that American football might get a touch, its trying to expand now and with various games being held outside of the States Casement might get an opportunity.

Who knows, it will need a serious marketing business team in place, completely independent of the Ulster council to get the most out of the ground.

No need for some clowns to be put in place by friends or mates of someone!!

So you think Casement is a worthwhile project to maybe host one american football game, 4/5 games in the euros and a Luke Combs concert? Along with what? An ulster final we're realistically nowhere near and an all ireland 1/4 final? Its a farce. We should have secured a deal to make sure the gaels of Antrim are benefitting. Schools finals, u16/minor/camogie/ladies football/junior b hurling finals. How many of these will get the padlock of casement opened? None!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2024, 11:06:35 AM
I've voiced my concerns about the size of Casement and losing control to the Ulster council and not having Casement for all that you have said already countless times....

That ship has sailed and still talking about what we 'should' have done over what can be done now won't change anything in your post

I'm confused as to why bringing up old conversations will actually fix anything..

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 21, 2024, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 21, 2024, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2024, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 21, 2024, 09:02:53 AMI'd say there will be more concerts in it than Antrim matches.....certainly with regards to club matches.

Has it been decided what happens Clones once Casement is finally open?

Was there mention of doing up most county grounds around the country? Clones may have the history of holding games, but its nearly as bad as Casement before it was closed.. If Casement is built I'd say that all Ulster finals will be held at Casement and a quarter final most years

As for other sports, wouldn't be surprised that American football might get a touch, its trying to expand now and with various games being held outside of the States Casement might get an opportunity.

Who knows, it will need a serious marketing business team in place, completely independent of the Ulster council to get the most out of the ground.

No need for some clowns to be put in place by friends or mates of someone!!

So you think Casement is a worthwhile project to maybe host one american football game, 4/5 games in the euros and a Luke Combs concert? Along with what? An ulster final we're realistically nowhere near and an all ireland 1/4 final? Its a farce. We should have secured a deal to make sure the gaels of Antrim are benefitting. Schools finals, u16/minor/camogie/ladies football/junior b hurling finals. How many of these will get the padlock of casement opened? None!

I think you've nailed that there. I dont think you will see the days of local finals or underage finals being taken to the new Casement. It wouldn't be viable to open a large stadium for some games that would only bring a small crowd.

Do the Dublin clubs hold their County finals at Parnell Park or Croke Park out of interest?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 21, 2024, 12:04:53 PM
Parnell Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 21, 2024, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 21, 2024, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 21, 2024, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2024, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 21, 2024, 09:02:53 AMI'd say there will be more concerts in it than Antrim matches.....certainly with regards to club matches.

Has it been decided what happens Clones once Casement is finally open?

Was there mention of doing up most county grounds around the country? Clones may have the history of holding games, but its nearly as bad as Casement before it was closed.. If Casement is built I'd say that all Ulster finals will be held at Casement and a quarter final most years

As for other sports, wouldn't be surprised that American football might get a touch, its trying to expand now and with various games being held outside of the States Casement might get an opportunity.

Who knows, it will need a serious marketing business team in place, completely independent of the Ulster council to get the most out of the ground.

No need for some clowns to be put in place by friends or mates of someone!!

So you think Casement is a worthwhile project to maybe host one american football game, 4/5 games in the euros and a Luke Combs concert? Along with what? An ulster final we're realistically nowhere near and an all ireland 1/4 final? Its a farce. We should have secured a deal to make sure the gaels of Antrim are benefitting. Schools finals, u16/minor/camogie/ladies football/junior b hurling finals. How many of these will get the padlock of casement opened? None!

I think you've nailed that there. I dont think you will see the days of local finals or underage finals being taken to the new Casement. It wouldn't be viable to open a large stadium for some games that would only bring a small crowd.

Do the Dublin clubs hold their County finals at Parnell Park or Croke Park out of interest?

To be fair if id a choice of parnell or croke for club finals id pick parnell. This casement sage isnt over. Chat of approx 100m shortfall in the funding here. If that isnt met and work cannot commence soon there wont be a 33000 seater stadium
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 21, 2024, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on February 21, 2024, 06:28:16 AMCasement or whatever name its finally given as I doubt it will remain, as its public revenue being used and I would think some of our senior officials would have been aware of this for a long time. This will be a venue for everything and anything so long as its profitable and thats fair enough, but what revenue will Antrim GAA receive annually once it's opened thats the question that needs to be asked, and how do we plan to invest that going forward as i would hope that a robust Business case exists. We have lost the claim to the ground a long time ago, its not ours anymore so let's hope a good deal was negotiated back in the day.
Amazingly, that only happened in 2021.
And we still went through with it!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 21, 2024, 09:12:03 PM
doubtful we'll be going backwards now.  would be very surprised if antrim get unlimited use of the place, it will be used a money generator so in the first instance i am hoping they have learned a lot from the Cork fiasco. Antrim's comparatively small support wont be something stadium management will be targeting.    there is still a big question on what we are getting - is it an all singing, all dancing mini-croker with premium or a basic shell with seats? huge difference in cost.      Giving Casement away was insanity but its done now.  Could have been still using it these past ten years.     Long term if we accept Casement isnt Antrim's then what is the long term plans for adding seating and developing Dunsilly, Corrigan or a club venue up the country?   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2024, 10:25:11 PM
This just randomly popped up on my social media. Antrim minor ladies playing tonight and of a panel of 29 there are 28 city and one glenavy. Something doesn't seem right there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 08:57:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2024, 10:25:11 PMThis just randomly popped up on my social media. Antrim minor ladies playing tonight and of a panel of 29 there are 28 city and one glenavy. Something doesn't seem right there?

Fall out over the Minor Final last year being played on the same day Moneyglass Senior Ladies were playing in Ulster.

So the MG girls have left the panel this year.

Same goes for the Senior Ladies, apart from the O'Neill sisters who aren't available all the time as they have their studies to focus on this year so I believe will be dropping in and out.

All fair enough but unfortunate timing for the Senior Ladies after reaching Div 3 for the first time.

Although there is always a strong bias towards city players with underage squads in LGFA anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2024, 09:04:45 AM
It's a pity. Been a bit of a fallout with the camogie management too so hopefully that won't derail them too. All the ladies teams were flying too  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:18:26 AM
Any word on second year minors being allowed to play senior? Leagues are only a few weeks away and Antrim cant make a decision?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AM
Also any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on February 22, 2024, 10:31:53 AM
as I understand it, only division 1 will begin on the 10th march, with division 2 and 3 pencilled for Saturday 23rd march
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 22, 2024, 10:43:25 AM
Antrim well organised as per usual!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

Maybe its different nowadays being married and being a player... I just left the house on the morning of the game played it and came back, my wife wouldn't even know where I was going lol

Club came first, Easter was way down on my list

As I've said on here many times, the clubs are generally the ones who hold up the fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

Maybe its different nowadays being married and being a player... I just left the house on the morning of the game played it and came back, my wife wouldn't even know where I was going lol

Club came first, Easter was way down on my list

As I've said on here many times, the clubs are generally the ones who hold up the fixtures

Fair enough, release the fixtures week on week and we'll keep every weekend free. No need to book a holiday or a weeekend away...club comes first
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on February 22, 2024, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 08:57:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2024, 10:25:11 PMThis just randomly popped up on my social media. Antrim minor ladies playing tonight and of a panel of 29 there are 28 city and one glenavy. Something doesn't seem right there?

Fall out over the Minor Final last year being played on the same day Moneyglass Senior Ladies were playing in Ulster.

So the MG girls have left the panel this year.

Same goes for the Senior Ladies, apart from the O'Neill sisters who aren't available all the time as they have their studies to focus on this year so I believe will be dropping in and out.

All fair enough but unfortunate timing for the Senior Ladies after reaching Div 3 for the first time.

Although there is always a strong bias towards city players with underage squads in LGFA anyway.

It usually depends where the management team is from, sure Randalstown will be able to balance the books with the minor hurlers  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 22, 2024, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

are the Antrim minor hurling leagues not on the Sunday morning with the senior/reserve leagues later in the day?


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 22, 2024, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

are the Antrim minor hurling leagues not on the Sunday morning with the senior/reserve leagues later in the day?




Last few years yes. U17 games at 12. With senior games usually around 2/3. Reserve friday nights. Back to u18 now and no decision made if second year minors can play senior.

Whats the situation in Down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

Maybe its different nowadays being married and being a player... I just left the house on the morning of the game played it and came back, my wife wouldn't even know where I was going lol

Club came first, Easter was way down on my list

As I've said on here many times, the clubs are generally the ones who hold up the fixtures

Fair enough, release the fixtures week on week and we'll keep every weekend free. No need to book a holiday or a weeekend away...club comes first

So when have the fixtures been released week on week?

It's a pastime sport, you don't get paid, if your wife wants you to go away for the weekend or book a holiday do it. Championship will be end August September time generally

Your Club Sec will give you all the answers

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 22, 2024, 01:43:56 PM
I assume from this attitude you believe the woman's place is in the kitchen, you also head out in the morning hunting to put food on the table and if the wife dare question where you are going so will get put in her place! Things have changed since your time MR2 woman are allowed a wife too and men help out with children etc, however perhaps that's the problem with those who set the fixtures etc they are also stuck in the dark ages

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

Maybe its different nowadays being married and being a player... I just left the house on the morning of the game played it and came back, my wife wouldn't even know where I was going lol

Club came first, Easter was way down on my list

As I've said on here many times, the clubs are generally the ones who hold up the fixtures
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on February 22, 2024, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 22, 2024, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

are the Antrim minor hurling leagues not on the Sunday morning with the senior/reserve leagues later in the day?




Last few years yes. U17 games at 12. With senior games usually around 2/3. Reserve friday nights. Back to u18 now and no decision made if second year minors can play senior.

Whats the situation in Down

In Down those in their last year of U18 minor can play adult if parental consent is given and a guideline about not playing an adult game three days either side of a minor game, not sure how enforceable that is all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 02:33:49 PM
Well considering I do 80% of the cooking I'm not sure how that is relevant to club fixtures and when they are starting..

Someone asked and I said the 10th March, and hurling starts Easter weekend but then started talking about his wife and booking weekends away and holidays ffs!

Who do you actually thinks slows down the fixtures coming out?

The topic pops up every year and your club sec's have all this information but to waffle on about booking weekends and holidays with the wife is getting tiresome!

Would ye whist. You have seriously went off on one, hunting for food, womens place in the kitchen

MR2 woman are allowed a wife too and men help out with children etc, This bit I'm not sure about though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

Maybe its different nowadays being married and being a player... I just left the house on the morning of the game played it and came back, my wife wouldn't even know where I was going lol

Club came first, Easter was way down on my list

As I've said on here many times, the clubs are generally the ones who hold up the fixtures

Fair enough, release the fixtures week on week and we'll keep every weekend free. No need to book a holiday or a weeekend away...club comes first

So when have the fixtures been released week on week?

It's a pastime sport, you don't get paid, if your wife wants you to go away for the weekend or book a holiday do it. Championship will be end August September time generally

Your Club Sec will give you all the answers



Its a past time sport that people make big sacrifices for. I'd like to book weekends away around my games and play as many as possible! It's not a massive ask
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 02:40:27 PM
I've recently listened to a podcast with your clubmate MR2 who also plays county football and hes asking for better organisation so that he can plan out his downtime. Holidays/concerts whatever. Dual players are two weeks away from basically a match every sunday from now until they are knocked out of championship.

Maybe if they do get a free sunday they should just leave the house, tell the wife nothing and go on a two day bender
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 11:40:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 10:18:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:50 AMAlso any word on fixtures? Nearly two weeks out from the proposed first game and we have no confirmed date schedule and no fixture list. Some handling!

Same most years. Does the change at the top, chairman etc impact this or are the people controlling fixtures stay year on year?

Managers dont know at the minute who they can/cannot use player wise. Players cannot plan their lives without a masters fixture list. Surely that is done by now?

I'm nearly sure its the Easter weekend and the football is the 10th of March..

Most hold ups are down to the clubs, they have to agree on things and then rubber stamped

These dates have been known for a few weeks

You should probably know the dates yourself? Easter weekend? Is it saturday or the sunday? Can you make plans with the wife on easter sunday yet? As far as im aware the u18 factor was discussed at the end of January and no decision made. Obviously a fixture headache for them but as far as i can hear almost every club is backing 18 year olds playing senior

Maybe its different nowadays being married and being a player... I just left the house on the morning of the game played it and came back, my wife wouldn't even know where I was going lol

Club came first, Easter was way down on my list

As I've said on here many times, the clubs are generally the ones who hold up the fixtures

Fair enough, release the fixtures week on week and we'll keep every weekend free. No need to book a holiday or a weeekend away...club comes first

So when have the fixtures been released week on week?

It's a pastime sport, you don't get paid, if your wife wants you to go away for the weekend or book a holiday do it. Championship will be end August September time generally

Your Club Sec will give you all the answers



Its a past time sport that people make big sacrifices for. I'd like to book weekends away around my games and play as many as possible! It's not a massive ask

Its not, and I would stress that you phone your club Sec and ask them why its being held up..

The start dates have always been there, its been the new proposals from the clubs that have held things up.

We all have a view on how things can be better organised but we have county set ups which have leagues and championships and back door championships and then all the divisions and different codes and ladies and camogies looking pitches, we have year tournaments (like or May day one and hurling one ) and county championships, then on top of that there was a restructuring of the leagues and ones looking it amended and whatever, not easy and would not have the foggest idea how that would be done, but hell, I can do a podcast and say it should be better organised.. OK, how?

I generally knew when playing, I was out Sunday, games Tuesday training, Wed games Thursday training or southy games and rinse repeat every week, as a dual player that's what ya did

But its better craic to blame the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 22, 2024, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 08:57:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2024, 10:25:11 PMThis just randomly popped up on my social media. Antrim minor ladies playing tonight and of a panel of 29 there are 28 city and one glenavy. Something doesn't seem right there?

Fall out over the Minor Final last year being played on the same day Moneyglass Senior Ladies were playing in Ulster.

So the MG girls have left the panel this year.

Same goes for the Senior Ladies, apart from the O'Neill sisters who aren't available all the time as they have their studies to focus on this year so I believe will be dropping in and out.

All fair enough but unfortunate timing for the Senior Ladies after reaching Div 3 for the first time.

Although there is always a strong bias towards city players with underage squads in LGFA anyway.

It usually depends where the management team is from, sure Randalstown will be able to balance the books with the minor hurlers  ;)

I take it you are referring to the 3 hurlers that were involved last year that preceded the change of management??

Don't see any more faces added to them to boost the numbers.

I get what you mean about location of the management teams but I was more meaning at school age it definitely works in their favour as most of the boys and girls, while maybe not at the same club, go to school together so are a lot more familiar with each other, as well as the coaches who know most on a first name basis.

I suppose it works the same for hurling/camogie and north Antrim, as the majority go to one of 3 or 4 schools and the coaches are north Antrim based.

That just seems to be the bias each way between big ball and small ball panels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2024, 03:05:17 PM
28 out of 29 and I'd say a fair chance that number 29 goes to school in belfast. Just feels a bit off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on February 22, 2024, 03:26:24 PM
A lot of Senior Football league games are being played on Wednesday nights according to schedule i saw. Plenty of weekends available to head away if you wish.

I heard PG1 have done a bit of decent business over the offseason. Enda Lynn in process of completing a transfer?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 22, 2024, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on February 22, 2024, 03:26:24 PMA lot of Senior Football league games are being played on Wednesday nights according to schedule i saw. Plenty of weekends available to head away if you wish.

I heard PG1 have done a bit of decent business over the offseason. Enda Lynn in process of completing a transfer?

Seriously what is wrong with Portglenone that they don't want to play their own. Lynn is from Greenlough, McGarry from Bellaghy. There is no team who can't claim to be wholesome in this regard, but to actively go recruiting is another. Poor form in my view.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2024, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 22, 2024, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on February 22, 2024, 03:26:24 PMA lot of Senior Football league games are being played on Wednesday nights according to schedule i saw. Plenty of weekends available to head away if you wish.

I heard PG1 have done a bit of decent business over the offseason. Enda Lynn in process of completing a transfer?

Seriously what is wrong with Portglenone that they don't want to play their own. Lynn is from Greenlough, McGarry from Bellaghy. There is no team who can't claim to be wholesome in this regard, but to actively go recruiting is another. Poor form in my view.

Not sure they had to do much recruitment for that, also hearing that Greenlough aren't too badly concerned at the departure.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 22, 2024, 04:01:05 PM
Yeah, I also forgot the keeper they also recruited, Mullan, both he and Lynn played for London in the NFL. Thats 3 now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OakLeaf on February 22, 2024, 04:01:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 22, 2024, 03:47:22 PMNot sure they had to do much recruitment for that, also hearing that Greenlough aren't too badly concerned at the departure.

He transferred away from Greenlough a couple of years back (to a team in London). He's not the easiest to deal with from what I hear. Same issues with Derry back in the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on February 22, 2024, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on February 22, 2024, 03:26:24 PMA lot of Senior Football league games are being played on Wednesday nights according to schedule i saw. Plenty of weekends available to head away if you wish.

I heard PG1 have done a bit of decent business over the offseason. Enda Lynn in process of completing a transfer?

Seriously what is wrong with Portglenone that they don't want to play their own. Lynn is from Greenlough, McGarry from Bellaghy. There is no team who can't claim to be wholesome in this regard, but to actively go recruiting is another. Poor form in my view.

theres no evidence in active recruiting is there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on February 22, 2024, 04:10:18 PM
Didn't really mean they actively recruited. I don't know the ins and outs of it. Will be a really good addition to them regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Dunsilly King on February 22, 2024, 04:12:29 PM
What is active recruiting? Phoning someone and asking do you want to play for us, or they phone you and you say, yes please, rather than if your living in the parish we would take the transfer, but if your outside of it we are not really interested. It doesn't work and the lads from your club are left out in the cold, next year is where it will come to roost. I think a player coming into your club in the city is very different to a rural club.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OakLeaf on February 22, 2024, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on February 22, 2024, 04:10:18 PMDidn't really mean they actively recruited. I don't know the ins and outs of it. Will be a really good addition to them regardless.

He's getting on now but can still play a bit, so from a football perspective he'll be useful. However, from a team harmony perspective ... well, that remains to be seen!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 04:35:43 PM
He lives in PG1 doesn't he, now he is back from London.

Pretty sure there was a fall out with Greenlough before he went there, so bridges burned and as someone said before, they aren't losing any sleep over him not returning there.

So I see no issue in it at all.

Don't know enough about the keeper involved to know if he had a fall out or not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 04:39:38 PM
His home club and Portglenone are a stones throw apart so not really a reason him living in pg1. Like a creggan player transferring to TNN because they live in Randalstown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: OakLeaf on February 22, 2024, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 04:35:43 PMDon't know enough about the keeper involved to know if he had a fall out or not.

He left Greenlough at the same time as Lynn (got caught up in Lynn's drama). Also played in London. Average enough keeper. Probably wont start for Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2024, 03:05:17 PM28 out of 29 and I'd say a fair chance that number 29 goes to school in belfast. Just feels a bit off.

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2024, 03:05:17 PM28 out of 29 and I'd say a fair chance that number 29 goes to school in belfast. Just feels a bit off.

The panel that was named at the start of the year was the same set of girls so it hasn't changed.

It looked ridiculous at the time as well.

Moneyglass withdrew all their minors so that left a few spaces for more Belfast based players.

Still a surprise that the likes of Cargin or Glenariffe don't have any representation as they were strong at U16 last year, but then again, neither would have a coach on the panel so there you go.

The U16s are not much better, with 21 Belfast and 9 elsewhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 22, 2024, 04:39:38 PMHis home club and Portglenone are a stones throw apart so not really a reason him living in pg1. Like a creggan player transferring to TNN because they live in Randalstown

The transfer was for other reasons, as already stated by a few.

My point was he picked the club that was closest to him.

Should he have transferred to a further away club?

At least they aren't likely to play each other, as opposed to transferring to another club in the same county.

And there have been a few in the last 10-15 years have made that switch (boke!) from TNN to Creggan and vice versa because of similar reasons to Lynn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 23, 2024, 11:28:58 AM
You made out that a player has the freedom to waltz out on a sunday and return whenever he feels like it without giving consideration to his wife or family, that for me was a view from the dark ages.

My own son's wife is trying to work her shifts round when my son has games but guess what they can't as they do not know when they are

Don't come trying to be smart, your issue is you let the mask slip as to your identity not you spend the time on here defending the county board and ref's click so you still get the games. And don't give me Totes doesn't read this as there is a lot of your colleagues posting on here

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 02:33:49 PMWell considering I do 80% of the cooking I'm not sure how that is relevant to club fixtures and when they are starting..

Someone asked and I said the 10th March, and hurling starts Easter weekend but then started talking about his wife and booking weekends away and holidays ffs!

Who do you actually thinks slows down the fixtures coming out?

The topic pops up every year and your club sec's have all this information but to waffle on about booking weekends and holidays with the wife is getting tiresome!

Would ye whist. You have seriously went off on one, hunting for food, womens place in the kitchen

MR2 woman are allowed a wife too and men help out with children etc, This bit I'm not sure about though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on February 23, 2024, 12:52:36 PM
so have there been any fixtures released or is it likely that there will be in the next few days?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on February 23, 2024, 02:09:33 PM
LGFA have managed to get their full fixture schedule right down to U6 released and the relevant ones posted on the county website.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 23, 2024, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on February 23, 2024, 12:52:36 PMso have there been any fixtures released or is it likely that there will be in the next few days?

you dont need fixtures, contact your club secretary as its them holding the process up. Keep every weekend free from now until decemeber incase you make an all ireland final. And dont forget to go home and bate the wife because she hasnt the dinner ready
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 23, 2024, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 23, 2024, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on February 23, 2024, 12:52:36 PMso have there been any fixtures released or is it likely that there will be in the next few days?

you dont need fixtures, contact your club secretary as its them holding the process up. Keep every weekend free from now until decemeber incase you make an all ireland final. And dont forget to go home and bate the wife because she hasnt the dinner ready

😂
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on February 23, 2024, 03:28:55 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 22, 2024, 04:51:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2024, 03:05:17 PM28 out of 29 and I'd say a fair chance that number 29 goes to school in belfast. Just feels a bit off.

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2024, 03:05:17 PM28 out of 29 and I'd say a fair chance that number 29 goes to school in belfast. Just feels a bit off.

The panel that was named at the start of the year was the same set of girls so it hasn't changed.

It looked ridiculous at the time as well.

Moneyglass withdrew all their minors so that left a few spaces for more Belfast based players.

Still a surprise that the likes of Cargin or Glenariffe don't have any representation as they were strong at U16 last year, but then again, neither would have a coach on the panel so there you go.

The U16s are not much better, with 21 Belfast and 9 elsewhere.

Re Glenariffe: I don't think any of the girls attended trials to be honest. The bulk of that U-16 team last year was girls playing up from U-14 and they are now U-15. The one girl who played county last year at U-14 is hoping to give it a go again next year at U-16. There's actually about 5-6 of that team playing county but with the small ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2024, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on February 23, 2024, 11:28:58 AMYou made out that a player has the freedom to waltz out on a sunday and return whenever he feels like it without giving consideration to his wife or family, that for me was a view from the dark ages.

My own son's wife is trying to work her shifts round when my son has games but guess what they can't as they do not know when they are

Don't come trying to be smart, your issue is you let the mask slip as to your identity not you spend the time on here defending the county board and ref's click so you still get the games. And don't give me Totes doesn't read this as there is a lot of your colleagues posting on here

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 02:33:49 PMWell considering I do 80% of the cooking I'm not sure how that is relevant to club fixtures and when they are starting..

Someone asked and I said the 10th March, and hurling starts Easter weekend but then started talking about his wife and booking weekends away and holidays ffs!

Who do you actually thinks slows down the fixtures coming out?

The topic pops up every year and your club sec's have all this information but to waffle on about booking weekends and holidays with the wife is getting tiresome!

Would ye whist. You have seriously went off on one, hunting for food, womens place in the kitchen

MR2 woman are allowed a wife too and men help out with children etc, This bit I'm not sure about though

It's clique not click  ;)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on February 24, 2024, 04:31:07 PM
When that is your only retort it's clear even you know you are spouting cr*p

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Quote from: Would ye whist on February 23, 2024, 11:28:58 AMYou made out that a player has the freedom to waltz out on a sunday and return whenever he feels like it without giving consideration to his wife or family, that for me was a view from the dark ages.

My own son's wife is trying to work her shifts round when my son has games but guess what they can't as they do not know when they are

Don't come trying to be smart, your issue is you let the mask slip as to your identity not you spend the time on here defending the county board and ref's click so you still get the games. And don't give me Totes doesn't read this as there is a lot of your colleagues posting on here

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2024, 02:33:49 PMWell considering I do 80% of the cooking I'm not sure how that is relevant to club fixtures and when they are starting..

Someone asked and I said the 10th March, and hurling starts Easter weekend but then started talking about his wife and booking weekends away and holidays ffs!

Who do you actually thinks slows down the fixtures coming out?

The topic pops up every year and your club sec's have all this information but to waffle on about booking weekends and holidays with the wife is getting tiresome!

Would ye whist. You have seriously went off on one, hunting for food, womens place in the kitchen

MR2 woman are allowed a wife too and men help out with children etc, This bit I'm not sure about though

It's clique not click  ;)


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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on February 25, 2024, 08:08:03 PM
Anyone in Sligo?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2024, 09:14:06 PM
Yes. Apart from a great 10 minute spell before half time when we scored five unanswered point, Sligo were just better than us. Nothing easy looking about our next two games either, Wicklow at home in last fixture could be make or break.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2024, 09:30:29 PM
It would be nice to see us with a full team out but that is miles away. Is there a team about with anywhere near the same number of injuries as us? Disappointing but Sligo aren't a bad team either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wee Barky on February 25, 2024, 09:36:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 25, 2024, 09:30:29 PMIt would be nice to see us with a full team out but that is miles away. Is there a team about with anywhere near the same number of injuries as us? Disappointing but Sligo aren't a bad team either.

Liverpool ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on February 26, 2024, 10:23:43 AM
we are now a fortnight from the first senior league game, why have fixtures not been circulated yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: inabsentia on February 26, 2024, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on February 26, 2024, 10:23:43 AMwe are now a fortnight from the first senior league game, why have fixtures not been circulated yet?

It's called the element of surprise.

Aldergrove to catch cargin in the long grass first match of the season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 26, 2024, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2024, 09:14:06 PMYes. Apart from a great 10 minute spell before half time when we scored five unanswered point, Sligo were just better than us. Nothing easy looking about our next two games either, Wicklow at home in last fixture could be make or break.
Antrim twitter feed yesterday at 15.24 - 'Big Jack Dowling also on for Colm McLarnon'.
The standard of player just isn't available for Antrim to progress any higher than staying in Div 3, if they stay up its clearly a bonus. Not insulting anyone its just the reality of the current situation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 26, 2024, 02:32:32 PM
Maintaining our Division 3 status would be an impressive achievement given the quality and injuries to our current squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2024, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 26, 2024, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2024, 09:14:06 PMYes. Apart from a great 10 minute spell before half time when we scored five unanswered point, Sligo were just better than us. Nothing easy looking about our next two games either, Wicklow at home in last fixture could be make or break.
Antrim twitter feed yesterday at 15.24 - 'Big Jack Dowling also on for Colm McLarnon'.
The standard of player just isn't available for Antrim to progress any higher than staying in Div 3, if they stay up its clearly a bonus. Not insulting anyone its just the reality of the current situation.

That's the reality EOC, and the players representing us are working hard at training and out there doing their best. We have a lot of quality missing, and on that basis it really would be creditable if we can maintain division three status with the hand that we were dealt.

Even just take the Cargin contingent for example. From 7 panellists last year and this, there were medium or longer term injuries to Jamie, CJ, Eunan, Sean ONeill, now Benen, and I think I've even missed someone!

The class of Adam, Ryan, Aghagallon McCann and Peter Healy arnt easily replaced, and throw in last years midfield pairing Stew and Kevin Small. And even that's not nearly the full list.

To be fair I don't see the usual cheap shots I was expecting after a few defeats. The reality is no one could have anticipated the loss of so many influential players, and being optimistic, with the wind behind us we should have a far stronger panel next year.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 26, 2024, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2024, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on February 26, 2024, 02:13:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2024, 09:14:06 PMYes. Apart from a great 10 minute spell before half time when we scored five unanswered point, Sligo were just better than us. Nothing easy looking about our next two games either, Wicklow at home in last fixture could be make or break.
Antrim twitter feed yesterday at 15.24 - 'Big Jack Dowling also on for Colm McLarnon'.
The standard of player just isn't available for Antrim to progress any higher than staying in Div 3, if they stay up its clearly a bonus. Not insulting anyone its just the reality of the current situation.

That's the reality EOC, and the players representing us are working hard at training and out there doing their best. We have a lot of quality missing, and on that basis it really would be creditable if we can maintain division three status with the hand that we were dealt.

Even just take the Cargin contingent for example. From 7 panellists last year and this, there were medium or longer term injuries to Jamie, CJ, Eunan, Sean ONeill, now Benen, and I think I've even missed someone!

The class of Adam, Ryan, Aghagallon McCann and Peter Healy arnt easily replaced, and throw in last years midfield pairing Stew and Kevin Small. And even that's not nearly the full list.

To be fair I don't see the usual cheap shots I was expecting after a few defeats. The reality is no one could have anticipated the loss of so many influential players, and being optimistic, with the wind behind us we should have a far stronger panel next year.



Yes I think just stay up and aim for a better run of luck next year with injuries.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on February 26, 2024, 03:26:35 PM
@Bannside - What about putting together a team selection of injured players? Would be a strong team on paper!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2024, 05:22:15 PM
Caesar, we all have opinions about who should be playing and who shouldn't and who should be on the team that's not, or who's missing from the panel altogether.

The one thing I do know is that no two people would agree on it.

We need to get behind those who are there, and hope that one by one the team/panel increases in player strength as the year goes on.

Take MF as an example where none of Small, Stewart, Quinn or Hynds are available atm. Stephen Beattie played there too - for Lenny, and never let himself down...but he got hurt against Fermanagh earlier this year to compound our midfield options.

So McAleer and McLarnon are thrown in, and it's a tough place to find yourself at inter County level, right in at the deep end.

Big Jack actually came on and got his hands on a couple, again out there doing his best for the cause, fair play.

I'd love what's there to maintain our division three status, against the odds. No one could have foreseen these circumstances.










Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 26, 2024, 11:16:25 PM
It's entirely possible that with the 4 points we already have on the board we will be safe. There are 3 teams with 0 points and we still have to play one of them, Wicklow, at Corrigan. The Irish News this morning described Sundays game v Westmeath as 'must win' which it is not. We maybe do need one more win to be safe, but we have 3 games left.

Then it's onto the Tailteann Cup and hopefully some players back to strengthen the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 27, 2024, 07:40:55 AM
This. Ideally Limerick and Wicklow draw or Limerick beat Wicklow too. You'd imagine Offaly have enough to get out of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on February 27, 2024, 08:13:07 AM
Some of those teams still need to play each other, so they will pick up points. I feel we need one more point (draw) to be mathematically safe.. a bonus if its not necessary.

I think Peter Healy isn't far away, would be some addition at this stage. Believe he's the closest.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on February 27, 2024, 01:54:51 PM
would it make any sense to push the fixtures out to clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 27, 2024, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 27, 2024, 01:54:51 PMwould it make any sense to push the fixtures out to clubs?

why would the clubs need the fixtures? madness even suggesting that
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 27, 2024, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 27, 2024, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on February 27, 2024, 01:54:51 PMwould it make any sense to push the fixtures out to clubs?

why would the clubs need the fixtures? madness even suggesting that
Or why would a last year minor need to know at this stage if they can play adult football or not ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on February 27, 2024, 07:15:59 PM
Fixtures? Wise up ffs who needs them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on February 27, 2024, 10:26:39 PM
so last year minors can play adult football in adult the year, will we get fixtures in the coming days, unsure why that was holding it up
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wee Barky on February 27, 2024, 10:39:10 PM
Does that mean minor games will be on different days to senior games this year ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on February 28, 2024, 09:05:05 AM
Last year minors are allowed to play senior, minor fixtures to be moved to midweek though not confirmed which day.

Fixtures due out on Thursday evening/Friday morning, 9 whole days before the first game.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2024, 09:06:55 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 28, 2024, 09:05:05 AMLast year minors are allowed to play senior, minor fixtures to be moved to midweek though not confirmed which day.

Fixtures due out on Thursday evening/Friday morning, 9 whole days before the first game.



Sooner the better, that wife of mine is looking to know which games she can go to and when to book the aul weekends away!  ;D

Oh stop! I'll be a wife beater after that post
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SW Ultras on February 28, 2024, 12:30:32 PM
Any news on Shea Downey playing for Antrim? Seen Oran Downey regularly on Antrim bench, and was wondering would his Downey brethren be playin for the saffron yellow this year? Obviously not getting a look in under Mickey, and with him playing club football in Beal Feirste at Musgrave, wouldn't it a be a no-brainer to transfer over? Food for thought lads? Only a newbie here  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on February 28, 2024, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: SW Ultras on February 28, 2024, 12:30:32 PMAny news on Shea Downey playing for Antrim? Seen Oran Downey regularly on Antrim bench, and was wondering would his Downey brethren be playin for the saffron yellow this year? Obviously not getting a look in under Mickey, and with him playing club football in Beal Feirste at Musgrave, wouldn't it a be a no-brainer to transfer over? Food for thought lads? Only a newbie here  8)

Will the glenone mens new signing put his hand up for the new adopted County  ;D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 28, 2024, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: SW Ultras on February 28, 2024, 12:30:32 PMAny news on Shea Downey playing for Antrim? Seen Oran Downey regularly on Antrim bench, and was wondering would his Downey brethren be playin for the saffron yellow this year? Obviously not getting a look in under Mickey, and with him playing club football in Beal Feirste at Musgrave, wouldn't it a be a no-brainer to transfer over? Food for thought lads? Only a newbie here  8)

welcome Seamus
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on February 28, 2024, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 28, 2024, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: SW Ultras on February 28, 2024, 12:30:32 PMAny news on Shea Downey playing for Antrim? Seen Oran Downey regularly on Antrim bench, and was wondering would his Downey brethren be playin for the saffron yellow this year? Obviously not getting a look in under Mickey, and with him playing club football in Beal Feirste at Musgrave, wouldn't it a be a no-brainer to transfer over? Food for thought lads? Only a newbie here  8)

welcome Seamus
;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on February 29, 2024, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 28, 2024, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: SW Ultras on February 28, 2024, 12:30:32 PMAny news on Shea Downey playing for Antrim? Seen Oran Downey regularly on Antrim bench, and was wondering would his Downey brethren be playin for the saffron yellow this year? Obviously not getting a look in under Mickey, and with him playing club football in Beal Feirste at Musgrave, wouldn't it a be a no-brainer to transfer over? Food for thought lads? Only a newbie here  8)

welcome Seamus

 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on February 29, 2024, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 28, 2024, 09:05:05 AMLast year minors are allowed to play senior, minor fixtures to be moved to midweek though not confirmed which day.

Fixtures due out on Thursday evening/Friday morning, 9 whole days before the first game.


Any White smoke yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 01, 2024, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: SW Ultras on February 28, 2024, 12:30:32 PMAny news on Shea Downey playing for Antrim? Seen Oran Downey regularly on Antrim bench, and was wondering would his Downey brethren be playin for the saffron yellow this year? Obviously not getting a look in under Mickey, and with him playing club football in Beal Feirste at Musgrave, wouldn't it a be a no-brainer to transfer over? Food for thought lads? Only a newbie here  8)

Dumping his own club for another was bad enough without dumping his county too! LOL
He's on the Derry bench, he has won 2 Ulster Cships and Derry are now genuine All-Ireland contenders. Where on earth would he be going!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 01, 2024, 10:18:04 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on February 28, 2024, 09:05:05 AMLast year minors are allowed to play senior, minor fixtures to be moved to midweek though not confirmed which day.

Fixtures due out on Thursday evening/Friday morning, 9 whole days before the first game.



If (2nd year) minors can play senior and there needs to be 48 hours between games then surely minor games have to be Friday, to account for Sunday/Wednesday for Senior.

Is that not the way it used to be years ago, with U16 then on a Tuesday night?

You would think every year when this comes up that this was the first time they ever had to sort fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on March 01, 2024, 11:16:36 AM
Most 2nd year minors won't be playing senior,they'll be playing res unless they are like C Johnson from cargin,which I don't think there are
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 01, 2024, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: referee on March 01, 2024, 11:16:36 AMMost 2nd year minors won't be playing senior,they'll be playing res unless they are like C Johnson from cargin,which I don't think there are

I accept that but if the option is there, then allowances have to be made for it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 01, 2024, 01:41:17 PM
Fixing the state of reserve football should be a big priority. My own club's reserves only played 4 or 5 games last year because other clubs kept forfeiting. Young players have walked away because they spent all lasy year training for very few matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2024, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: Caesar on March 01, 2024, 01:41:17 PMFixing the state of reserve football should be a big priority. My own club's reserves only played 4 or 5 games last year because other clubs kept forfeiting. Young players have walked away because they spent all lasy year training for very few matches.

Problems have existed in reserve for as long as I can remember and one solution doesn't suit all teams, the best fix has always been that the seniors played after the reserves. But its only a best fit when the teams have adequate numbers, a decent manager looking after them and a good working relationship with the senior manager.

I much prefer that second teams drop down into the leagues and play in the normal divisions, the quality is better and attitude is different, to do that both panels need at least 22/25 players in their squads, otherwise its pointless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 01, 2024, 09:39:25 PM
Fixtures are up
Nearly all Wednesdays
9 I think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2024, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 01, 2024, 09:39:25 PMFixtures are up
Nearly all Wednesdays
9 I think


Great for weekends away thankfully
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on March 02, 2024, 10:27:16 AM
What way do the leagues work then does anybody know?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 03, 2024, 06:22:10 PM
Another fairly turgid display today, Westmeath always had their noses in front but are nothing special.

We didn't help ourselves with a couple of really clear cut goal chances not taken. How McEnhill didn't score is beyond me
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2024, 08:47:35 AM
Wouldn't say turgid Kidder, that was indeed the case last week in Sligo, but yesterday I thought we had a proper go, and died with our boots on.

Players working their way into squad/team such as Kavan Keenan and last year's newbies Colm McLarnon and Ronan Boyle all did well yesterday, amongst our better performers.

On yesterday's display we should have enough to beat Wicklow in our last game  and anything we get against Clare (away) is a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 08:53:48 AM
Anyone else finding the Fibrus Antrim MOTM award slightly cringeworthy?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on March 04, 2024, 08:59:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 08:53:48 AMAnyone else finding the Fibrus Antrim MOTM award slightly cringeworthy?

I assume there is a reason they can't give the award to the opposition, especially outside the 6 counties.

Is the award a broadband package of some description ? But I agree, last week for example when the hurlers lost by 25 points and an Antrim player has to stand and accept a MOTM award
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 04, 2024, 08:59:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 08:53:48 AMAnyone else finding the Fibrus Antrim MOTM award slightly cringeworthy?

Horrendous... alongside Antrim twitter captions fangirling our players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 04, 2024, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: asaffgael on March 02, 2024, 10:27:16 AMWhat way do the leagues work then does anybody know?

I think top 4 go into a semi-final/ final to battle it out for the league.

Bottom 4 go in to a semi-final/ Final to see which one team goes down from the league. The other being relegated from the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 04, 2024, 09:29:35 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 04, 2024, 08:59:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 08:53:48 AMAnyone else finding the Fibrus Antrim MOTM award slightly cringeworthy?

Horrendous... alongside Antrim twitter captions fangirling our players.

Absolutly embarrassing. What is bert? a leg end or a legend. What the actual f**k??

The feet from mcbride, see ya mate. He doesnt even beat anyone. the westmeath player stands him up and he has to cut back. Has this clown ever played before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2024, 09:47:54 AM
Re Fibrus MOM, all that's needed is a slight change in the wording...Fibrus Antrim Player of the Match.

Surely this is a welcome development, a way of 8/10 players per year getting a reward for their efforts.

Surely these initiatives should be applauded.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 09:53:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 09:47:54 AMRe Fibrus MOM, all that's needed is a slight change in the wording...Fibrus Antrim Player of the Match.

Surely this is a welcome development, a way of 8/10 players per year getting a reward for their efforts.

Surely these initiatives should be applauded.

I am all for the players being recognised and rewarded.

I am not for players standing on the pitch after a defeat being asked to pose for these photo opps.

There are ways and means it could be tweaked.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 04, 2024, 09:54:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 09:47:54 AMRe Fibrus MOM, all that's needed is a slight change in the wording...Fibrus Antrim Player of the Match.

Surely this is a welcome development, a way of 8/10 players per year getting a reward for their efforts.

Surely these initiatives should be applauded.

100%. Its also an extra way of our main sponsors getting a little bit more publicity and if the players benefit also happy days
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 04, 2024, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 09:53:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 09:47:54 AMRe Fibrus MOM, all that's needed is a slight change in the wording...Fibrus Antrim Player of the Match.

Surely this is a welcome development, a way of 8/10 players per year getting a reward for their efforts.

Surely these initiatives should be applauded.

I am all for the players being recognised and rewarded.

I am not for players standing on the pitch after a defeat being asked to pose for these photo opps.

There are ways and means it could be tweaked.

Are you also against the players standing for selfies after a defeat or signing jerseys/hurls of kids?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 04, 2024, 10:06:59 AM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 04, 2024, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 09:47:54 AMRe Fibrus MOM, all that's needed is a slight change in the wording...Fibrus Antrim Player of the Match.

Surely this is a welcome development, a way of 8/10 players per year getting a reward for their efforts.

Surely these initiatives should be applauded.

Not against the the actual idea, I think it's great to have a company like Fibrus on board and getting their airtime. I just think that after a defeat or a heavy defeat, it's a bit embarrassing for the player receiving, that's all. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 04, 2024, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 04, 2024, 09:53:29 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 09:47:54 AMRe Fibrus MOM, all that's needed is a slight change in the wording...Fibrus Antrim Player of the Match.

Surely this is a welcome development, a way of 8/10 players per year getting a reward for their efforts.

Surely these initiatives should be applauded.

I am all for the players being recognised and rewarded.

I am not for players standing on the pitch after a defeat being asked to pose for these photo opps.

There are ways and means it could be tweaked.

Are you also against the players standing for selfies after a defeat or signing jerseys/hurls of kids?

Wow tetchy for a Monday morning.

I find it cringeworthy the Fibrus award. Same for the hurling awards that's my opinion. To me it plays into a psyche that we have had for too long within the Antrim set ups. Nothing to do with the players getting rewarded for what they do for the county.

Staying on the pitch with the kids is completely different and to be admired by all of the teams across the board who do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 04, 2024, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 08:47:35 AMWouldn't say turgid Kidder, that was indeed the case last week in Sligo, but yesterday I thought we had a proper go, and died with our boots on.

Players working their way into squad/team such as Kavan Keenan and last year's newbies Colm McLarnon and Ronan Boyle all did well yesterday, amongst our better performers.

On yesterday's display we should have enough to beat Wicklow in our last game  and anything we get against Clare (away) is a bonus.

To miss so many scorable frees was criminal yesterday.

Couple those with the 2 missed goal chances and we could have easily won that game.

Westmeath were no great shakes but they knew in the second half all they had to do was keep calm and maintain their margin without too much exertion as they had that gap due to our misses.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 04, 2024, 11:08:11 AM
There is a reason why both these teams are in division 3 and shot selection and composure are two of them. 

Antrim missed plenty but lets be fair so did Westmeath who carved us open through the middle at times with ease.  Cant fault the effort from the players, gave their all just were beaten by a better side on the day.  Big effort needed for the wicklow match in particular
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 04, 2024, 02:43:09 PM
Tbh I thought we were a fair bit more wasteful than them, and but for our wastage count in front if goals we would have been celebrating a solid victory. (Don't forget they beat us out the gate last year).

The wastage stat in front of goals is a cause for concern, but in many cases the opportunity was presented on the back of good link up play and as we all know, there's days they go on the scoreboard, and days they don't. Dommo hit the crossbar when a goal would have levelled it, and I thought if that had gone in, we could have gone on to claim both points.

Not concerned too much, I do believe we can retain our Div 3 status and that's the first Box ticked for the season.

The referee was Offaly bad, ridiculous that a ref was appointed from a county with a clear interest in the outcome of the match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: barnish oggie on March 04, 2024, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 04, 2024, 02:43:09 PMTbh I thought we were a fair bit more wasteful than them, and but for our wastage count in front if goals we would have been celebrating a solid victory. (Don't forget they beat us out the gate last year).

The wastage stat in front of goals is a cause for concern, but in many cases the opportunity was presented on the back of good link up play and as we all know, there's days they go on the scoreboard, and days they don't. Dommo hit the crossbar when a goal would have levelled it, and I thought if that had gone in, we could have gone on to claim both points.

Not concerned too much, I do believe we can retain our Div 3 status and that's the first Box ticked for the season.

The referee was Offaly bad, ridiculous that a ref was appointed from a county with a clear interest in the outcome of the match.

We made that joke about the ref as well yesterday!!

But it was true.

And the wastefulness in front of goal can happen, but missing easy frees is less forgivable.

I know Byrne missed one in the second half but there were 3 easy ones (for him) he should have taken before that, that you just knew weren't going to be close.

You usually know if a free taker is going to be on his game from the first one and yesterday the change to Byrne taking them should have been made sooner.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 04, 2024, 10:02:34 PM
Hopefully the Antrim masters teams go better than our senior side plenty of old timers reappearing I've heard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 04, 2024, 10:05:55 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 04, 2024, 10:02:34 PMHopefully the Antrim masters teams go better than our senior side plenty of old timers reappearing I've heard

Off the pitch as well as on it AFAIK  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2024, 10:08:05 PM
Few all Ireland winners on it.

Bannside will sort it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on March 05, 2024, 02:41:27 PM
not much chat around the start of the league, who is the team to watch in each division?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on March 05, 2024, 08:42:46 PM
Knock off the naming of posters.

Not impressed with comments on refs either.

A few posts deleted.

Next will be some permanent bans if it continues.

Mod5
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 10:23:29 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 05, 2024, 02:41:27 PMnot much chat around the start of the league, who is the team to watch in each division?

who are the favourites to go down in division 1, will Glenravel, all saints or Naomh Seamus have enough to stay up, what about division 2 and 3 now they have been restructured, who has the best chance to make hay now the strongest teams from last year aren't there anymore?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 07, 2024, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 10:23:29 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 05, 2024, 02:41:27 PMnot much chat around the start of the league, who is the team to watch in each division?

who are the favourites to go down in division 1, will Glenravel, all saints or Naomh Seamus have enough to stay up, what about division 2 and 3 now they have been restructured, who has the best chance to make hay now the strongest teams from last year aren't there anymore?

Throw Moneyglass and Enda's in there too. I know there are a few travelling at Moneyglass and Naomh Seamus so they're probably favourites.

As for winning it - I couldn't look past Cargin or Portglenone, strongest teams on paper and not an overly large county contingent from either side to reduce their quality for the league. EL coming in to PG1 could cause more problems than it fixes.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2024, 11:25:33 AM
Don't see EL causing any problems  he has settled in well and hopefully will lead a forward line that I feel was far too individual in the past. He's popular with players and management and might just add that extra % in terms of belief.

Got a serious run of away fixtures to all the top sides in the second half of the league, but tbh, whatever way it pans out, round here there's only one monkey that needs to be eliminated, and that's the only priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 07, 2024, 12:00:45 PM
We have a huge number of players away at the minute so down to the bare bones for the first half of the league at least. Does anyone genuinely care about the league though? I felt the start of the league last year was like having a load of friendly games.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2024, 12:00:45 PMWe have a huge number of players away at the minute so down to the bare bones for the first half of the league at least. Does anyone genuinely care about the league though? I felt the start of the league last year was like having a load of friendly games.

Might as well not turn up on Sunday lol!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 07, 2024, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2024, 12:00:45 PMWe have a huge number of players away at the minute so down to the bare bones for the first half of the league at least. Does anyone genuinely care about the league though? I felt the start of the league last year was like having a load of friendly games.
Ah come on now Jim, Portglenone care about it deeply
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 07, 2024, 11:25:33 AMDon't see EL causing any problems  he has settled in well and hopefully will lead a forward line that I feel was far too individual in the past. He's popular with players and management and might just add that extra % in terms of belief.

Got a serious run of away fixtures to all the top sides in the second half of the league, but tbh, whatever way it pans out, round here there's only one monkey that needs to be eliminated, and that's the only priority.

well that will be a first, in truth likely next year when a leopard who doesn't change his spots surfaces, due to 1st yr syndrome.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2024, 02:39:59 PM
We enjoyed winning a league last year, Creggan took that route too before going one further a few years back. Any silverware at the dinner dance is good imo...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PM
what about division 2 and 3?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PMwhat about division 2 and 3?

Starts 23rd/24th
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PMwhat about division 2 and 3?

Starts 23rd/24th
who are favourites for promotion/relegation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Wee Barky on March 08, 2024, 08:23:52 AM
Any word on when underage leagues start ? Minors were this weekend last year I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on March 08, 2024, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PMwhat about division 2 and 3?

Starts 23rd/24th
who are favourites for promotion/relegation

o'Dees will win Div 3 fairly handy I think

Div 2 Lisburn for the drop and Sarsfields should win it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 09, 2024, 04:08:36 PM
Poor day for U-20s in both codes
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2024, 05:04:09 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 09, 2024, 04:08:36 PMPoor day for U-20s in both codes

And the Belfast Select LGFA team were stuffed in the Ulster championship by Cavan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 09, 2024, 06:39:48 PM
I'm all ears as to how our county even begins to turn it around as I honestly don't see how we ever will.

We slag and bicker about Belfast and SW and who is dominating but what does it matter? Neither is raising the standard of our county. In fact, we're in a race to the bottom.

We hear the cliches of exposure to MacRory football etc etc but the majority of that U20 team played MacRory football I think, yet they are as far away as any team before them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2024, 07:06:58 PM
Our senior setups are considerably more professional than they ever were tbh but the underage seems to be the same, and worse, than ever. Tyrone are probably up there with the best teams in Ireland at this age group but still.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 09, 2024, 07:35:55 PM
Today exposed once again the gap that exists, that was a humbling experience. Tyrone an absolute joy to watch, we just weren't anywhere near the same level, unfortunately.

We need a football sub committee formed immediately to even start to think about how we can start closing the gap. We won't sort it out here, that's for sure.

Otherwise we will be having this same conversation in another 20 years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 09, 2024, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 09, 2024, 07:35:55 PMToday exposed once again the gap that exists, that was a humbling experience. Tyrone an absolute joy to watch, we just weren't anywhere near the same level, unfortunately.

We need a football sub committee formed immediately to even start to think about how we can start closing the gap. We won't sort it out here, that's for sure.

Otherwise we will be having this same conversation in another 20 years.
We will be. No doubt about it.

Or, there will be B & C grades introduced at underage level and we'll accept our lot at whatever one we fall into and will forget about ever trying to compete with the top teams in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 09, 2024, 08:07:29 PM
Regardless of the opposition, it's a desperate score line.  Many many factors including a half-arsed U20 club competition dogged by apathy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2024, 10:08:28 PM
That's an alarming scoreline, on top of the minors recently.

Can anyone succinctly describe why this is happening, evening allowing the use of sweeping statements?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SambaSaffron on March 10, 2024, 07:26:40 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 09, 2024, 06:39:48 PMI'm all ears as to how our county even begins to turn it around as I honestly don't see how we ever will.

We slag and bicker about Belfast and SW and who is dominating but what does it matter? Neither is raising the standard of our county. In fact, we're in a race to the bottom.

We hear the cliches of exposure to MacRory football etc etc but the majority of that U20 team played MacRory football I think, yet they are as far away as any team before them.
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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 09, 2024, 06:39:48 PMI'm all ears as to how our county even begins to turn it around as I honestly don't see how we ever will.

We slag and bicker about Belfast and SW and who is dominating but what does it matter? Neither is raising the standard of our county. In fact, we're in a race to the bottom.

We hear the cliches of exposure to MacRory football etc etc but the majority of that U20 team played MacRory football I think, yet they are as far away as any team before them.
Majority is some stretch. Exposure to MacRory is hardly a cliche, its a fact.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 10, 2024, 07:34:58 AM
How many of the starting 15 went to Maghera/Magherafelt/St Ronan's?

It's not a fact that it makes any difference to us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 10, 2024, 10:13:05 AM
I might be wrong, but I think that age group got wiped out by Donegal in the minor championship a couple of years ago and we had the same debate :(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Derryman forever on March 10, 2024, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 10, 2024, 10:13:05 AMI might be wrong, but I think that age group got wiped out by Donegal in the minor championship a couple of years ago and we had the same debate :(
was it not Tyrone minors  in Healy park put 8 goals past them in 2022.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: blindside on March 10, 2024, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 10, 2024, 10:13:05 AMI might be wrong, but I think that age group got wiped out by Donegal in the minor championship a couple of years ago and we had the same debate :(

Yes 2021 u17

Donegal 4-22 Antrim 0-8
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2024, 11:15:20 AM
This group have definitely had their share of hammerings over the years, and that being the case we are all to blame. Let's not put this at the door of the management or even the players, they're out there doing their best.

Here's the ironic thing...and it's only my opinion....we could get 4 or 5 county seniors from this squad. I've seen some year groups we get a lot less than that.

Potentially Manus McCrossan and Niall Hynds would be midfield (in this team) and two Cargin seniors Conan and Conchuir Johnston were also missing yesterday.Cargins Big Charley McCann will turn into a baller before hes finished.

Tiernan McCormick has a massive future in Saffron if he can develop a bit more end product to match the flying runs.

I'm not deliberately cherry picking here, yesterday was hard to watch, but there's a batch here that need our support  not our derision.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 10, 2024, 11:44:34 AM
Yeah, every chance we'll get more senior county players from our team than Tyrone will from theirs.

Not sure that's a good thing.

Omagh in the Hogan final next week will have had them missing players yesterday.

Absolutely it's not on those players & management. It runs way deeper than that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 10, 2024, 12:40:25 PM
Totally agree. Looking at the team sheet there are some very good footballers in that team. But there are levels - good players in their own club environment, but collectively against a Tyrone or a Derry we are miles off.  I still think Conchuir Johnston is our best chance and he would've been a big miss yesterday.  He can't turn the ship around single handedly, but he's the nearest thing we have to a special player that a team could be built around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2024, 12:49:40 PM
What is his injury? He seems to have been out a while. (In fact every single player we have injured in both football and hurling seems to have been out for an eternity!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 10, 2024, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2024, 11:15:20 AMThis group have definitely had their share of hammerings over the years, and that being the case we are all to blame. Let's not put this at the door of the management or even the players, they're out there doing their best.

Here's the ironic thing...and it's only my opinion....we could get 4 or 5 county seniors from this squad. I've seen some year groups we get a lot less than that.

Potentially Manus McCrossan and Niall Hynds would be midfield (in this team) and two Cargin seniors Conan and Conchuir Johnston were also missing yesterday.Cargins Big Charley McCann will turn into a baller before hes finished.

Tiernan McCormick has a massive future in Saffron if he can develop a bit more end product to match the flying runs.

I'm not deliberately cherry picking here, yesterday was hard to watch, but there's a batch here that need our support  not our derision.

Wise words Bannside.
The McRory Cup debate is a nonsense. Plenty of counties have very few players if any playing McRory Cup yet they compete at the top level. The issue starts and finishes with the clubs. Not enough quality players being produced. The easy answer doesn't exist. Its a numbers game along with old fashioned graft and hard work by good coaches who are in it for the long game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 10, 2024, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: ck on March 10, 2024, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2024, 11:15:20 AMThis group have definitely had their share of hammerings over the years, and that being the case we are all to blame. Let's not put this at the door of the management or even the players, they're out there doing their best.

Here's the ironic thing...and it's only my opinion....we could get 4 or 5 county seniors from this squad. I've seen some year groups we get a lot less than that.

Potentially Manus McCrossan and Niall Hynds would be midfield (in this team) and two Cargin seniors Conan and Conchuir Johnston were also missing yesterday.Cargins Big Charley McCann will turn into a baller before hes finished.

Tiernan McCormick has a massive future in Saffron if he can develop a bit more end product to match the flying runs.

I'm not deliberately cherry picking here, yesterday was hard to watch, but there's a batch here that need our support  not our derision.

Wise words Bannside.
The McRory Cup debate is a nonsense. Plenty of counties have very few players if any playing McRory Cup yet they compete at the top level. The issue starts and finishes with the clubs. Not enough quality players being produced. The easy answer doesn't exist. Its a numbers game along with old fashioned graft and hard work by good coaches who are in it for the long game.

It's just not straight forward as you say, but even with the coaching - if you are a dual club for example you will have one hour a week probably to train that team. And this is applicable to hurling as well, it's the other 6 days of the week that will make or break a kid when they are developing - if they don't do anything the rest of the week you are beat. No matter how good the coach is for that one hour a week.

As you say with big numbers and a strong culture in a club you have a chance, but not every club is like Dunloy or Cargin, where GAA is first and last. Especially in urban areas.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 10, 2024, 10:08:11 PM
Yeah, it's apathy. Gaelic football just isn't that big a deal.

Who can change that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 11, 2024, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: ck on March 10, 2024, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 10, 2024, 11:15:20 AMThis group have definitely had their share of hammerings over the years, and that being the case we are all to blame. Let's not put this at the door of the management or even the players, they're out there doing their best.

Here's the ironic thing...and it's only my opinion....we could get 4 or 5 county seniors from this squad. I've seen some year groups we get a lot less than that.

Potentially Manus McCrossan and Niall Hynds would be midfield (in this team) and two Cargin seniors Conan and Conchuir Johnston were also missing yesterday.Cargins Big Charley McCann will turn into a baller before hes finished.

Tiernan McCormick has a massive future in Saffron if he can develop a bit more end product to match the flying runs.

I'm not deliberately cherry picking here, yesterday was hard to watch, but there's a batch here that need our support  not our derision.

Wise words Bannside.
The McRory Cup debate is a nonsense. Plenty of counties have very few players if any playing McRory Cup yet they compete at the top level. The issue starts and finishes with the clubs. Not enough quality players being produced. The easy answer doesn't exist. Its a numbers game along with old fashioned graft and hard work by good coaches who are in it for the long game.

Macrory football is the highest standard of football you can play at that age. Its not the be all and end all but Antrim is the county in Ulster with no school in macory football. Its not the be all and end all but certainly is a factor. But are the clubs not doing enough to make football enjoyable enough that when kids get to school they want to play? The sad factor is kids in schools in Belfast would rather play in a soccer schools cup final than a macrory.

Few eyebrow rising results yesterday. Big one being Ballymena beating johnnies in Corrigan. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on March 11, 2024, 11:33:47 AM
The MacRory debate is a pointless one. People seem to be thinking Antrim's issues are because we don't have players playing MacRory but the root of the problem is long before that. Our players don't play MacRory because the schools aren't good enough and the problems have started long before our lads get to that age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 11, 2024, 11:45:50 AM
Schools! Schools! Schools! That is why we are behind in development, any other answer is a by-product. We need a strong school in Belfast and a strong school in the SW. We need schools going out and bringing our best P7s to that school and developing them from there based on ability and promise, not club.

SW clubs are leading the way in Antrim at the minute and that's from exposure to that level, but we need a school where we aren't competing with Derry players and Antrim reaps all the benefit of players being developed. I was told 25 years ago by a prominent Armagh man this was our issue - and it still is today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 11, 2024, 11:59:52 AM
It's lost long before they even get there.
It's in the homes.
Gaelic football is not valued in Antrim. There is a take it or leave it attitude and when the sacrifices & commitment levels required reach a certain point then most opt to leave it. Is there a real desire among that many to play for Antrim?

Someone mentioned soccer a couple of posts back. It's no surprise that young lads like it much more than football. Relatively little training and loads of regular matches. That's fun.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on March 11, 2024, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 11, 2024, 11:45:50 AMSchools! Schools! Schools! That is why we are behind in development, any other answer is a by-product. We need a strong school in Belfast and a strong school in the SW. We need schools going out and bringing our best P7s to that school and developing them from there based on ability and promise, not club.

SW clubs are leading the way in Antrim at the minute and that's from exposure to that level, but we need a school where we aren't competing with Derry players and Antrim reaps all the benefit of players being developed. I was told 25 years ago by a prominent Armagh man this was our issue - and it still is today.

I must say this complete rubbish. The quality of coaching at club level in your youth, on the whole is not at the level required. No strategy to improve it. Nor will it improve in the absence of one, it rinse and repeat for years upon years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Brendan on March 11, 2024, 06:55:42 PM
Looking at it from a North Derry perspective the schools defnitly has a big impact, the only clubs in North Derry who are senior/strong intermediate, Dungiven and Banagher have kids going over the Glenshane to St. Pats, then steelstown would have kids at st columbs college who have been relly pushing the GAA the last few years. Places like Faughanvale, Drumsurn, Ballerin don't have soccer or hurling distractions but are going nowhere fast because the children aren't going to strong football schools
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 12, 2024, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 11, 2024, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 11, 2024, 11:45:50 AMSchools! Schools! Schools! That is why we are behind in development, any other answer is a by-product. We need a strong school in Belfast and a strong school in the SW. We need schools going out and bringing our best P7s to that school and developing them from there based on ability and promise, not club.

SW clubs are leading the way in Antrim at the minute and that's from exposure to that level, but we need a school where we aren't competing with Derry players and Antrim reaps all the benefit of players being developed. I was told 25 years ago by a prominent Armagh man this was our issue - and it still is today.

I must say this complete rubbish. The quality of coaching at club level in your youth, on the whole is not at the level required. No strategy to improve it. Nor will it improve in the absence of one, it rinse and repeat for years upon years.

You are deluded. It's the same Ulster coaching clinics that everyone goes to, and the Antrim contingent is always strong at them, as I have been to plenty over the years. So why is it all other counties come away better coaches but Antrim's don't? Every county in Ulster has at least one strong GAA school, except Antrim.

Aghagallon and the Derry side of Antrim have all come on leaps and bounds these past 5/10 years - if you dont think the proximity to strong schools has anything to do with then I've a bridge to Scotland to sell you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2024, 10:25:21 AM
The great thing about schools that take their GAA ethos really seriously is that the programme starts the first week in the gate at year eight.

A school that offers 8 hours a week across a mixture of training/matches/S&C/pilates/yoga/ diet and nutritional advice will produce a much better individual...than say a school that offers x2 hours a week across the same spectrum of activity.

It's basic maths.

Across 40 weeks and 7 years it's 2240 man hours versus 560 man hours.

Obviously not an exact science, but a blind man should see the difference a full on school can make to player development versus a school going through the motions.

Then do the same exercise across a progressive club versus a club taking short cuts.

It's all about the work, and as Duine says, the level of apathy in some Antrim schools and clubs is appalling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 12, 2024, 10:54:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 12, 2024, 10:25:21 AMThe great thing about schools that take their GAA ethos really seriously is that the programme starts the first week in the gate at year eight.

A school that offers 8 hours a week across a mixture of training/matches/S&C/pilates/yoga/ diet and nutritional advice will produce a much better individual...than say a school that offers x2 hours a week across the same spectrum of activity.

It's basic maths.

Across 40 weeks and 7 years it's 2240 man hours versus 560 man hours.

Obviously not an exact science, but a blind man should see the difference a full on school can make to player development versus a school going through the motions.

Then do the same exercise across a progressive club versus a club taking short cuts.

It's all about the work, and as Duine says, the level of apathy in some Antrim schools and clubs is appalling.
I didn't say that.

The issue is the apathy in our communities. Gaelic football isn't a big deal in a lot of them. Kids don't really care and their parents don't value it and if that school programme was available to them they simply wouldn't go.
They struggle to buy into the couple of hours a week. They don't value it that highly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on March 12, 2024, 10:58:32 AM
Cahair O'Kane impressed with Cargin at the weekend anyway
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 12, 2024, 11:32:22 AM
Completely agree Duine, the problem is Antrim is not the hotbed for GAA we would all like to believe, a lot of parents do not give a dam and this feeds through to their kids............I hear my son giving off that parents use the underage training as a babysitting service and they cannot barely get a parent to help to set out/gather in cones as the drop the kid off, drive away and come back an hour later to collect. If the parents are showing they don't care about the kid training how will the kid?

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 12, 2024, 10:54:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 12, 2024, 10:25:21 AMThe great thing about schools that take their GAA ethos really seriously is that the programme starts the first week in the gate at year eight.

A school that offers 8 hours a week across a mixture of training/matches/S&C/pilates/yoga/ diet and nutritional advice will produce a much better individual...than say a school that offers x2 hours a week across the same spectrum of activity.

It's basic maths.

Across 40 weeks and 7 years it's 2240 man hours versus 560 man hours.

Obviously not an exact science, but a blind man should see the difference a full on school can make to player development versus a school going through the motions.

Then do the same exercise across a progressive club versus a club taking short cuts.

It's all about the work, and as Duine says, the level of apathy in some Antrim schools and clubs is appalling.
I didn't say that.

The issue is the apathy in our communities. Gaelic football isn't a big deal in a lot of them. Kids don't really care and their parents don't value it and if that school programme was available to them they simply wouldn't go.
They struggle to buy into the couple of hours a week. They don't value it that highly.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2024, 12:01:04 PM
While some Antrim schools and clubs try to put their best foot forward, I think it's fair to say many are simply going through the motions. Pretty much falls into the apathy department in my book. Not trying to be critical of the dedicated coaches out there doing their utmost, but if the support structure isn't there it's an uphill task!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 12, 2024, 12:35:06 PM
The uphill task is that the general public in our county, including lots of those who play our games, don't actually really care that much or really aspire to play at the highest level and have little interest in putting in the effort to be able to compete with the likes of Tyrone or Derry.
I don't know how we change the hearts and minds on that. I don't know how a school, club or any support structure goes about changing that. Maybe it's a mix of apathy, inferiority complex, culture but football isn't on the agenda of a lot of our playing population (and their families) in the same way as it is on the agenda of the playing population (and their families) of Tyrone & Derry.
I'd say you could dump 20 coaches from Tyrone underage structures into clubs and schools in Belfast and Tyrone and Derry would still beat the living daylights out of us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 12, 2024, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 12, 2024, 10:54:08 AM
Quote from: bannside on March 12, 2024, 10:25:21 AMThe great thing about schools that take their GAA ethos really seriously is that the programme starts the first week in the gate at year eight.

A school that offers 8 hours a week across a mixture of training/matches/S&C/pilates/yoga/ diet and nutritional advice will produce a much better individual...than say a school that offers x2 hours a week across the same spectrum of activity.

It's basic maths.

Across 40 weeks and 7 years it's 2240 man hours versus 560 man hours.

Obviously not an exact science, but a blind man should see the difference a full on school can make to player development versus a school going through the motions.

Then do the same exercise across a progressive club versus a club taking short cuts.

It's all about the work, and as Duine says, the level of apathy in some Antrim schools and clubs is appalling.
I didn't say that.

The issue is the apathy in our communities. Gaelic football isn't a big deal in a lot of them. Kids don't really care and their parents don't value it and if that school programme was available to them they simply wouldn't go.
They struggle to buy into the couple of hours a week. They don't value it that highly.

GAA is everything in Toome and maybe thats why Cargin are so far ahead.
I agree but i think its mainly the city that has that outlook as there are many more distractions. But its exactly why Antrim will never be good. I'd say Antrim underage football isnt far off the worst in the country at the moment. Its also clear Antrim people dont care about football enough  is not cared about  by the attendances at championship matches unless its a SF or Final the attendances are usually poor. Go to Ownebeg for any group game in derry championship and its a packed house.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rawhide on March 12, 2024, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 12, 2024, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 11, 2024, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 11, 2024, 11:45:50 AMSchools! Schools! Schools! That is why we are behind in development, any other answer is a by-product. We need a strong school in Belfast and a strong school in the SW. We need schools going out and bringing our best P7s to that school and developing them from there based on ability and promise, not club.

SW clubs are leading the way in Antrim at the minute and that's from exposure to that level, but we need a school where we aren't competing with Derry players and Antrim reaps all the benefit of players being developed. I was told 25 years ago by a prominent Armagh man this was our issue - and it still is today.

I must say this complete rubbish. The quality of coaching at club level in your youth, on the whole is not at the level required. No strategy to improve it. Nor will it improve in the absence of one, it rinse and repeat for years upon years.

You are deluded. It's the same Ulster coaching clinics that everyone goes to, and the Antrim contingent is always strong at them, as I have been to plenty over the years. So why is it all other counties come away better coaches but Antrim's don't? Every county in Ulster has at least one strong GAA school, except Antrim.

Aghagallon and the Derry side of Antrim have all come on leaps and bounds these past 5/10 years - if you dont think the proximity to strong schools has anything to do with then I've a bridge to Scotland to sell you.

Not remotely deluded. I live this stuff day in and out. Talk and coach at the cold face. Go and talk to the Lockharts or Ronan Devlins. The skill levels of kids coming into both schools at first year are incredible. The improvement in club coaching in south Derry has steadily improved over the past 15 yrs. a remodeled launch of the development squads ten yrs complimented this progress. Remember Derry u17s have in the past 4 yrs been in two recent All Ireland minor finals, that's 18 months before MacRory. Dublins emphasises was and still is on primary schools and then club upskilling. There is no doubt up to 10-15 yrs years ago the coaching in the secondary school was critical for us, and it still is, but it is not near as important as it was before, due to the quality coaching education going on in the clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 12, 2024, 03:10:30 PM
Love your thinking Rawhide, said it here dozens of times. CLUBs have to take the main responsibility for player development.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 12, 2024, 03:58:17 PM
I have posted this before but here's a link to 'Derry GAA - Coaching and Development Strategy 2021 - 2026'

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/the-story-behind-derry-football-s-resurgence/?fbclid=IwAR3ajz-OGvQ05EOEWDil6XTYEZ04_U2Zj6JdQNCAfnBUgv6KfSuBbedxbXk

Follow the link and you will see the full 20 page PDF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 12, 2024, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 12, 2024, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 11, 2024, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 11, 2024, 11:45:50 AMSchools! Schools! Schools! That is why we are behind in development, any other answer is a by-product. We need a strong school in Belfast and a strong school in the SW. We need schools going out and bringing our best P7s to that school and developing them from there based on ability and promise, not club.

SW clubs are leading the way in Antrim at the minute and that's from exposure to that level, but we need a school where we aren't competing with Derry players and Antrim reaps all the benefit of players being developed. I was told 25 years ago by a prominent Armagh man this was our issue - and it still is today.

I must say this complete rubbish. The quality of coaching at club level in your youth, on the whole is not at the level required. No strategy to improve it. Nor will it improve in the absence of one, it rinse and repeat for years upon years.

You are deluded. It's the same Ulster coaching clinics that everyone goes to, and the Antrim contingent is always strong at them, as I have been to plenty over the years. So why is it all other counties come away better coaches but Antrim's don't? Every county in Ulster has at least one strong GAA school, except Antrim.

Aghagallon and the Derry side of Antrim have all come on leaps and bounds these past 5/10 years - if you dont think the proximity to strong schools has anything to do with then I've a bridge to Scotland to sell you.

Schools are not going to pull us out of the mire we are in. Being regularly competitive in the MacRory Cup or any A football would be fantastic and would help to push us on but we are 10 stages before that in the here and now. There is so much to be done to get there and it's not what happens in the school that's going to make the difference.

You could second Foncie McConnell, Diarmaid McNulty, Dinky McBride and anyone else to any Antrim school but they aren't going to make an Omagh CBS out of them. That's not to say that these people don't put things in place to allow Omagh to be successful, they absolutely do but the fundamental behind their success is that they have the luxury of feeding off lots of communities that quite simply live and breathe football. Without that, they aren't getting anywhere near back to back MacRory Cups.

Our schools don't have that luxury. Someone mentioned a few posts ago that the Cargin/Toome community live for football and that's fair but Omagh have maybe 15 or so communities like this feeding their school. Among them; Dromore, Trillick, Omagh, Carrickmore, Loughmacrory, Killyclogher, Ballygawley (at times). All top clubs in Tyrone. And that's not to discredit the other great clubs feeding them as well. The kids in these communities are busting to go to Omagh CBS for the football.

So, while schools can always do more to strengthen and support football, any suggestion that the schools in Antrim are in a position to even think about lining out on the same field as the above on any sort of regular basis just isn't plausible.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 12, 2024, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 12, 2024, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 12, 2024, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 11, 2024, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 11, 2024, 11:45:50 AMSchools! Schools! Schools! That is why we are behind in development, any other answer is a by-product. We need a strong school in Belfast and a strong school in the SW. We need schools going out and bringing our best P7s to that school and developing them from there based on ability and promise, not club.

SW clubs are leading the way in Antrim at the minute and that's from exposure to that level, but we need a school where we aren't competing with Derry players and Antrim reaps all the benefit of players being developed. I was told 25 years ago by a prominent Armagh man this was our issue - and it still is today.

I must say this complete rubbish. The quality of coaching at club level in your youth, on the whole is not at the level required. No strategy to improve it. Nor will it improve in the absence of one, it rinse and repeat for years upon years.

You are deluded. It's the same Ulster coaching clinics that everyone goes to, and the Antrim contingent is always strong at them, as I have been to plenty over the years. So why is it all other counties come away better coaches but Antrim's don't? Every county in Ulster has at least one strong GAA school, except Antrim.

Aghagallon and the Derry side of Antrim have all come on leaps and bounds these past 5/10 years - if you dont think the proximity to strong schools has anything to do with then I've a bridge to Scotland to sell you.

Schools are not going to pull us out of the mire we are in. Being regularly competitive in the MacRory Cup or any A football would be fantastic and would help to push us on but we are 10 stages before that in the here and now. There is so much to be done to get there and it's not what happens in the school that's going to make the difference.

You could second Foncie McConnell, Diarmaid McNulty, Dinky McBride and anyone else to any Antrim school but they aren't going to make an Omagh CBS out of them. That's not to say that these people don't put things in place to allow Omagh to be successful, they absolutely do but the fundamental behind their success is that they have the luxury of feeding off lots of communities that quite simply live and breathe football. Without that, they aren't getting anywhere near back to back MacRory Cups.

Our schools don't have that luxury. Someone mentioned a few posts ago that the Cargin/Toome community live for football and that's fair but Omagh have maybe 15 or so communities like this feeding their school. Among them; Dromore, Trillick, Omagh, Carrickmore, Loughmacrory, Killyclogher, Ballygawley (at times). All top clubs in Tyrone. And that's not to discredit the other great clubs feeding them as well. The kids in these communities are busting to go to Omagh CBS for the football.

So, while schools can always do more to strengthen and support football, any suggestion that the schools in Antrim are in a position to even think about lining out on the same field as the above on any sort of regular basis just isn't plausible.

I think if you look closer to home than Omagh. Look straight across the bridge in Toome to south Derry.

Look at the strong division 1 clubs from the Bann to the edge of the Sperrins.  All have that strong culture of working and producing talent at underage.

Be good to see the senior, U20 and minor Derry starting teams. I'd hazard a guess that they'd be 95% south Derry players.

Before anyone gives out, that's just a reality, not just at senior level but at U20 and minor level.  There's a culture there be built by parents, clubs and by the county itself.  It's hard work but starting to produce results.

Hard to know how Antrim get to that level but if you think of Cargin, Creggan and Portglenone etc., there's clubs in the SW who are building that culture.

No point in talking about secondary schools.  It starts with the clubs, then primary then secondary. Maghera and Magherafelt are boosted by SW Antrim players and that's helped them. Geographically, it suits these players to go into these south Derry schools.

 

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: whatwillbwillb on March 13, 2024, 06:23:23 AM
What has happened to the major investment that we went into Gealfast ? What have been the Outcomes to date, any reports, stats, progress to date etc available and made public to the Clubs. Surely Questions need to asked?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 08:42:25 AM
Have to agree with Marty34, them 3 clubs he just mentioned are leading the way in terms of culture. Casements model though i wouldnt be a fan of. over the years they have taken players not wanted by their clubs and put them in ahead of their own breed. And to be frank, its never worked for them. Maybe Lynn and Co. can change that now, but theres alot to be said for a club who brings through their youth and achieves success
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 08:50:58 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 13, 2024, 06:23:23 AMWhat has happened to the major investment that we went into Gealfast ? What have been the Outcomes to date, any reports, stats, progress to date etc available and made public to the Clubs. Surely Questions need to asked?

How much of a major investment was given and what were your expectations?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 13, 2024, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 08:42:25 AMHave to agree with Marty34, them 3 clubs he just mentioned are leading the way in terms of culture. Casements model though i wouldnt be a fan of. over the years they have taken players not wanted by their clubs and put them in ahead of their own breed. And to be frank, its never worked for them. Maybe Lynn and Co. can change that now, but theres alot to be said for a club who brings through their youth and achieves success

Every club in the county have accepted a few blow-ins over the years. I highly doubt it's part of any club's planned development model.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 13, 2024, 09:30:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 08:50:58 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 13, 2024, 06:23:23 AMWhat has happened to the major investment that we went into Gealfast ? What have been the Outcomes to date, any reports, stats, progress to date etc available and made public to the Clubs. Surely Questions need to asked?

How much of a major investment was given and what were your expectations?

It's a fair question to ask. All initiatives whether successful or otherwise should be open to evaluation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 08:42:25 AMHave to agree with Marty34, them 3 clubs he just mentioned are leading the way in terms of culture. Casements model though i wouldnt be a fan of. over the years they have taken players not wanted by their clubs and put them in ahead of their own breed. And to be frank, its never worked for them. Maybe Lynn and Co. can change that now, but theres alot to be said for a club who brings through their youth and achieves success

this is a personal reasons v casements it seems. Ive never heard before this year of casements taking these players. Every other club has also taken players so whats the problem against portglenone?? and yes even the mighty cargin have won championships with the help of 'blow ins'
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 10:14:52 AM
100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 10:51:12 AM
Quote from: Caesar on March 13, 2024, 09:30:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 08:50:58 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on March 13, 2024, 06:23:23 AMWhat has happened to the major investment that we went into Gealfast ? What have been the Outcomes to date, any reports, stats, progress to date etc available and made public to the Clubs. Surely Questions need to asked?

How much of a major investment was given and what were your expectations?

It's a fair question to ask. All initiatives whether successful or otherwise should be open to evaluation

I didn't disagree, I'm just asking what are your expectations for the money that was provided
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 10:14:52 AM100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.

so you've squashed the cargin factor as it was 10+ years ago but mentioned portglenones last county senior final which was how long ago?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 11:18:40 AM
My post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 11:34:05 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 10:14:52 AM100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.


Regarding Portglenones Model and
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 10:14:52 AM100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.

so you've squashed the cargin factor as it was 10+ years ago but mentioned portglenones last county senior final which was how long ago?

Not to ignore your comment about Portglenones last finals which you reached two of in the 'Noughties', its seems like if you were to kick on and reach the Final this year, it would be History repeating itself, as the team photo would contain a number of men obtained by your south derry neighbouring clubs. Point being, is success a price worth paying if it involves shafting home grown players. If so what is it saying about your ability to develop your own players and turn that into success....

Just an observation
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 11:39:46 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 11:18:40 AMMy post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

If these players have fell out with their south derry clubs as has been rumoured and have approached Portglenone to transfer then whats the problem? Do Portglenone say no thanks we'd like to try and do it with players born this side of the Bann. I would very much doubt that Portglenone secretary was phoning EL on transfer deadline day Harry Redknapp style
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 12:00:36 PM
I would say you are right, i dont think their secretary would be at that at all, infact i heard the committee was opposed to the transfer, however JMK did approach E.L. as well as the young lad he coached at bellaghy, who played for him last year. if i was a Casements underage coach id be questioning the clubs ethos regarding development of young players at senior level.

This was common knowledge by the way...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 13, 2024, 12:13:38 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 11:18:40 AMMy post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

Is this actually what happened here? That's a significant allegation so please share the facts!

My understanding is that it is usually a player who approaches a club, who then decide if they can accept the player.
 
In this case, it's two local players who fell out with their home club in a different county several years ago and haven't been able to play club football in Ireland ever since. Very different scenario from the picture you are trying to paint!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 13, 2024, 12:28:42 PM
Massive difference Caesar, but never worry about the facts, it's all about the spin. I'm not even going to try to explain defend or justify, or give this any more oxygen. Yes a player who came up through the ranks may lose out on game time, but that's life, it will still go on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 12:40:59 PM
"Significant allegation..."  ::) you must think we are in a tribunal  :D

No one is saying Casements have broke any rules here or have done wrong, in fact it may be very beneficial to them and the players involved. Could be a win win for all.

Everyones just intrigued by JMK's strategy. Afterall was he also not involved in the recruitment of players who didnt actually attend Holy Trinity in Cookstown, but were in the Tech's, and got them to play McRory Football. There was 3rd year apprentice Mechanics, Joiners etc.. out playing for HTC.

Hence why the discussion Is widespread to see if bringing in neighboring club players will benefit them.It benefited his college. May get them to a county final and beyond, though will the young players who have played their whole life for the club and get pushed to bench/ reserves to make way for these guys feel aggrieved?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Rodger Mona on March 13, 2024, 12:47:07 PM
Anyone else watching any of the promoted teams at the weekend??

All games with the exception of Aldergrove seemed to be right an competitive.

Ballymena in particular, getting off to a flyer. Think the bottom 6 will be a dog fight and a few may find themselves in it that wont have expected to be.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 01:25:41 PM
The siege is starting earlier and earlier every season  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 01:38:31 PM
The St Brigids lads are loving the fact 'Níl a fhios agam' has created an account to have a go at Portglenone/JMK. Who's turn will it be next year???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2024, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: Rodger Mona on March 13, 2024, 12:47:07 PMAnyone else watching any of the promoted teams at the weekend??

All games with the exception of Aldergrove seemed to be right an competitive.

Ballymena in particular, getting off to a flyer. Think the bottom 6 will be a dog fight and a few may find themselves in it that wont have expected to be.

Big win for ballymena. They've probably got more county players than St John's too. (Or at least an equal amount) glenravel and st Brigids tight enough too. St endas have less county players now too so I would expect them to do better in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Naomh Eanna less county players though alot away. Aghgallon in a similar position.

Regarding St.Briids, they are the exact same IMO. though would hold Casements in a higher regard than them.

Only point i was trying to make on the overall topic, was inheriting players from other clubs isnt a simple equation which results in success. My club will never win nothing outside of Intermediates once a decade if we are lucky and we are content at that. Only thing we can do is try and better our coaching and increase our turnover of players. Id take that any day of the week over what Casements and Brigids have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 14, 2024, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 02:54:20 PMNaomh Eanna less county players though alot away. Aghgallon in a similar position.

Regarding St.Briids, they are the exact same IMO. though would hold Casements in a higher regard than them.

Only point i was trying to make on the overall topic, was inheriting players from other clubs isnt a simple equation which results in success. My club will never win nothing outside of Intermediates once a decade if we are lucky and we are content at that. Only thing we can do is try and better our coaching and increase our turnover of players. Id take that any day of the week over what Casements and Brigids have

If a girl in your club married and lived in your area and her husband could play a bit id very much doubt hed be sitting on the bench for your reserves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 14, 2024, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 13, 2024, 11:18:40 AMMy post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

Everyone wants to be the best, so compare yourself to the best, at one point in time it was st galls at this point in time its Cargin.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 14, 2024, 03:16:29 PM
point blank... does anyone think its right for a manager to approach players from neighboring clubs who may have fallen out with their club, or not be in contention of starting their own senior team? If so, what would the GAA look like if clubs took this approach and operated the same as soccer clubs. We would lose the things that make us unique to the other sports.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 03:33:34 PM
Would you prefer them not to play? Has your club took in outsiders? I don't know many clubs that havent
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 14, 2024, 03:34:44 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 14, 2024, 03:16:29 PMpoint blank... does anyone think its right for a manager to approach players from neighboring clubs who may have fallen out with their club, or not be in contention of starting their own senior team? If so, what would the GAA look like if clubs took this approach and operated the same as soccer clubs. We would lose the things that make us unique to the other sports.


Is it right to do it with managers?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on March 14, 2024, 03:53:40 PM
It's not EL portglenone need it's a shrink there's a real mental block there with the Eddie fitz champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 14, 2024, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on March 14, 2024, 03:53:40 PMIt's not EL portglenone need it's a shrink there's a real mental block there with the Eddie fitz champions.

That's been a clear issue for them over the past few years for sure.

They have good talent coming though so they should be there or there abouts for a while but they'd need to get over the line in the championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caesar on March 14, 2024, 04:09:49 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on March 14, 2024, 01:46:33 PMEveryone wants to be the best, so compare yourself to the best, at one point in time it was st galls at this point in time its Cargin.

Looking at the production line of players coming through, it looks like Cargin will be the benchmark for quite some time
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 14, 2024, 04:32:45 PM
Maybe its different around Belfast MR2, maybe you boys wouldnt lose any sleep over a St.Galls man jumping across to Johnnies or Rossa. But for my club, i know it would be hurtful to see a home grown player play for a neighboring club.

Point being, is it ok for a MANAGER to make these approaches to these guys. Managers come and go, club will be left to deal with the shit after his wee venture is over
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 14, 2024, 04:38:42 PM

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Is it right to do it with managers?
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No, my club have had 2 outside managers and were no better for it, 1 left a dint in the bank account but ultimately our club men have served us well with what we have
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 06:32:57 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 14, 2024, 04:32:45 PMMaybe its different around Belfast MR2, maybe you boys wouldnt lose any sleep over a St.Galls man jumping across to Johnnies or Rossa. But for my club, i know it would be hurtful to see a home grown player play for a neighboring club.

Point being, is it ok for a MANAGER to make these approaches to these guys. Managers come and go, club will be left to deal with the shit after his wee venture is over

It's no different in any club but you're happier for a player to be lost to the GAA than play.

Like I said I don't know any club that hasn't a player from another club.

I also wouldn't personally get my knickers in a twist about it. I never lost out on my place in the team to an outsider  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 14, 2024, 07:40:49 PM
I don't understand the hatred for Portglenone. A decent club who have served the county well with players and officials.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 14, 2024, 09:24:06 PM
Is Gaelfast over now ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on March 14, 2024, 09:25:23 PM
Do teams getting relegated from
Div one now or is on champions hip ?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 15, 2024, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2024, 07:40:49 PMI don't understand the hatred for Portglenone. A decent club who have served the county well with players and officials.

That statement doesnt apply to me, i have friends and family from Casements, but id tell them the same, I think proactively recruiting players from neighboring clubs is wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 15, 2024, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2024, 07:40:49 PMI don't understand the hatred for Portglenone. A decent club who have served the county well with players and officials.

That statement doesnt apply to me, i have friends and family from Casements, but id tell them the same, I think proactively recruiting players from neighboring clubs is wrong

JMK hasnt sent a Greenlough player a text asking him to transfer. EL played in London having reportedly fell out with his home club. If back living in the area and playing no football at all, is a text message saying you fancy playing a bit as a big an issue as youre making out? Answer to that is no
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 15, 2024, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 15, 2024, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2024, 07:40:49 PMI don't understand the hatred for Portglenone. A decent club who have served the county well with players and officials.

That statement doesnt apply to me, i have friends and family from Casements, but id tell them the same, I think proactively recruiting players from neighboring clubs is wrong

JMK hasnt sent a Greenlough player a text asking him to transfer. EL played in London having reportedly fell out with his home club. If back living in the area and playing no football at all, is a text message saying you fancy playing a bit as a big an issue as youre making out? Answer to that is no
Had the odd dig at Portglenone for the craic to wind Bannside up in the past but at least they are making an attempt to progress unlike so many other teams that are going backwards. Former big name teams looking like in a few years they will be well down the divisions (if that is possible with a 16 team division 1)  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 15, 2024, 05:21:46 PM
A rising tide lifts all boats. Cargin the indisputable model that anyone in Antrim needs to match up to if they hope to emulate. No substitute for hard work, and an ethos where success is the only show in town.

PG1 a work in progress, as said before, whatever current batch achieves, much more work being done with next generation.

Anyone who thinks JMK going round South Derry trying to attract players is ludicrous. Zero substance in some of these "presumptions". A great clubman doing own club job for free despite numerous large "offers" elsewhere...whilst still contributing handsomely to our juvenile sector. Exceptionally well regarded in these parts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ghost+Tommy on March 16, 2024, 08:45:02 AM
Obviously JMK has upset you at some point NiL,maybe wiped your eye,maybe didn't hold your hand at HT,I DON'T KNOW lol,but to me as an StEndas man,I think Cargin,Creggan, Casements,St Brides and Aghagllon are the teama to catch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2024, 04:25:31 PM
Looking like us against Wicklow to see who stays in division three. (Assuming it's head to head...)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 16, 2024, 05:54:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 16, 2024, 04:25:31 PMLooking like us against Wicklow to see who stays in division three. (Assuming it's head to head...)

It's head to head if only two teams on same pints so yeah, massive game v Wicklow to come. They will be up for it after today's win, it won't be easy won. But really if we can't beat Wicklow at home we have no place in Div 3.

Listening to the game today on Clare FM, seems the red card was very damaging.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 16, 2024, 09:02:46 PM
There is a reason why Dunloy and Cargin overachieve despite small playing numbers.  It is the same reason as why competitive school football environments are essential.   The rest are playing a numbers game hoping population size sorts out their root problems. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 16, 2024, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 16, 2024, 09:02:46 PMThere is a reason why Dunloy and Cargin overachieve despite small playing numbers.  It is the same reason as why competitive school football environments are essential.   The rest are playing a numbers game hoping population size sorts out their root problems. 
What is it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2024, 12:18:03 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 16, 2024, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 16, 2024, 09:02:46 PMThere is a reason why Dunloy and Cargin overachieve despite small playing numbers.  It is the same reason as why competitive school football environments are essential.   The rest are playing a numbers game hoping population size sorts out their root problems. 
What is it?
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 16, 2024, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: Spike on March 16, 2024, 09:02:46 PMThere is a reason why Dunloy and Cargin overachieve despite small playing numbers.  It is the same reason as why competitive school football environments are essential.   The rest are playing a numbers game hoping population size sorts out their root problems. 
What is it?

Neither have won an All Ireland and one struggles to win in Ulster.. overachieving is a bit much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 17, 2024, 07:42:42 AM
Not in the slightest.  Two small country clubs doing the most with what they have. Neither bought into the Get rich quick schemes employed by others. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 17, 2024, 07:55:28 AM
I still don't get "the reason" or how it couples with your statement about schools.

I'm not saying that you are wrong btw, you just have put a very vague comment out there. A bit more meat on the bones of it would be helpful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2024, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 17, 2024, 07:42:42 AMNot in the slightest.  Two small country clubs doing the most with what they have. Neither bought into the Get rich quick schemes employed by others. 

I wouldn't say small clubs either. One only plays one code too which helps.

I suppose it was get rich quick back in 82 and 83 with back to back Ulster finals?

Not that college/schools football doesn't help some players grow but not the reason why you win championships.

Otherwise SW clubs would have dominated the competition since its inception

Hard work and some luck gets you over the line
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 17, 2024, 10:09:54 AM
As I said before, 82 a more genuine accomplishment than the noughties gatherups.   

But 82 is a long time ago and now you're surviving in div 1 by the skin of your teeth.   You go down to div 2 you won't be coming up again

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2024, 11:39:46 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 17, 2024, 10:09:54 AMAs I said before, 82 a more genuine accomplishment than the noughties gatherups.   

But 82 is a long time ago and now you're surviving in div 1 by the skin of your teeth.   You go down to div 2 you won't be coming up again



Yeah we went down before and came back with two Ulster titles..

Now which club doesn't have/had players from other clubs? If you can name me one in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on March 19, 2024, 04:34:48 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 1
All Saints Ballymena v Kickhams GAC Cretan
Naomh Séamus v Tír na Nóg Randalstown
Naomh Mhuire Achadh Eochaille v O'Donavon Rossa
Naomh Eargnait Muine Glás v Roger Casements Portglenone
Naomh Gall v Con Magee's Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg v Clann na hÉireann Carraigin
Naomh Bríd v St. Mary's Aghagallon
Naomh Éanna v Naomh Eoin

Division 2
Gort na Móna v Ciceam Ard Eoin
Naomh Padraig v Naomh Treasa CLG
St. Mary's Rasharkin v Naomh Pól CLG
Pádraig Sáirseil CLG v Naomh Seasamh
Cuchullians Dun Lathaí v CLG MacDaibhéid

Division 3
St. Malachy's v Laochra Loch Lao
Naomh Comghall CLG v Na Pairsaigh
Naomh Úna CLG/St Agnes' GAC v Wolfe Tones GAC
Éire Óg v Cardinal O' Donnell's GAC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 19, 2024, 04:57:55 PM
going by the weather yesterday at 6.00, a 5.00 pm throw in time is ambitious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 19, 2024, 11:51:22 PM
All those games should be moved forward by at least a half hour.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AM
Were the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 20, 2024, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AMWere the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
The game is tonight, they took a fair beating by Tyrone (who are on of the best) but by recent Antrim standards that u20 team has some real good players in it.
Most worrying aspect of the article was the reality that whats coming behind these current u20s is of a much lower standard
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:42:45 AM
Yeah thought that was worrying too. Ah thought it was last night - cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 20, 2024, 10:00:10 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 20, 2024, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AMWere the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
The game is tonight, they took a fair beating by Tyrone (who are on of the best) but by recent Antrim standards that u20 team has some real good players in it.
Most worrying aspect of the article was the reality that whats coming behind these current u20s is of a much lower standard

Worrying thought.

Maybe its time for Antrim to take the lead in alternative development rather than following in the slipstream of other counties. What is working for them isn't working for us. We don't appear to be any closer to catching up with the rest of ulster despite Dunsilly and the development squads. The only good thing about being at the bottom is the only way is up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 20, 2024, 11:47:47 AM
Quote from: Spike on March 20, 2024, 10:00:10 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 20, 2024, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 08:25:03 AMWere the u20s playing last night? If so how did they get on?

There was a good article in the irish news interviewing Niall Jackman. Pretty much covered what was covered here.
The game is tonight, they took a fair beating by Tyrone (who are on of the best) but by recent Antrim standards that u20 team has some real good players in it.
Most worrying aspect of the article was the reality that whats coming behind these current u20s is of a much lower standard

Worrying thought.

Maybe its time for Antrim to take the lead in alternative development rather than following in the slipstream of other counties. What is working for them isn't working for us. We don't appear to be any closer to catching up with the rest of ulster despite Dunsilly and the development squads. The only good thing about being at the bottom is the only way is up.



To quote Jackaman "I make no apologies for saying it, culturally there's not the same emphasis put on it by players themselves"

There lies the problem with Antrim GAA as a whole
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2024, 12:10:48 PM
Here are the simple requirements of an intercounty player

Strength and conditioning
Nutrition
Endurance
Pace
Commitment
Attitude
Skill

There are more requirements and I deliberately put skill at the end cause you could have all the skill in the world but if lacking any of the above you won't cut it at intercounty level, at any grade.

We have all got those ballers who are the worst trainers. But give me 15 players with the 6 requirements above skill and I'll work with that over a lazy skillful players.

This is not a dig at any county  or player or management, these are the things a player has to bring to the table first before a manager can decide if he can use him.

The first 6 requirements are an individual thing, its called bluffing if you are not bringing that to the table.

At club level lads will, for their team, bring most of that, and that's why some teams punch above what their county as a hole are doing.

The buy in is a collective and I get that, that's from the set up all the way down to the kit man

The rowing can only be in one direction, someone rowing the other way doesn't work.

The standard needs set by player, by club, by school by parents and so on

For whatever reason, and I'm sure we could chat for another 50 years about it, Antrim does not have it in their locker  like the other Ulster teams 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 20, 2024, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2024, 12:10:48 PMHere are the simple requirements of an intercounty player

Strength and conditioning
Nutrition
Endurance
Pace
Commitment
Attitude
Skill

There are more requirements and I deliberately put skill at the end cause you could have all the skill in the world but if lacking any of the above you won't cut it at intercounty level, at any grade.

We have all got those ballers who are the worst trainers. But give me 15 players with the 6 requirements above skill and I'll work with that over a lazy skillful players.

This is not a dig at any county  or player or management, these are the things a player has to bring to the table first before a manager can decide if he can use him.

The first 6 requirements are an individual thing, its called bluffing if you are not bringing that to the table.

At club level lads will, for their team, bring most of that, and that's why some teams punch above what their county as a hole are doing.

The buy in is a collective and I get that, that's from the set up all the way down to the kit man

The rowing can only be in one direction, someone rowing the other way doesn't work.

The standard needs set by player, by club, by school by parents and so on

For whatever reason, and I'm sure we could chat for another 50 years about it, Antrim does not have it in their locker  like the other Ulster teams 

I think the commitment and the attitude are the two most important. If you dont have them from an early age you're in bother
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 20, 2024, 08:16:00 PM
Jackman is obviously well placed to comment on the state of underage football in Antrim, and maybe his points deserve an airing at some stage. But the timing of that article was appalling.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 09:05:34 PM
Monaghan 2-8 Antrim 1-6 final score.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 09:05:34 PMMonaghan 2-8 Antrim 1-6 final score.

Down drew with Tyrone 11 points to 1-08

Derry bate Down previously

Hard to work out

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 21, 2024, 07:09:31 AM
Antrim U20s had a goal disallowed with a minute to go (ref gave free instead) and Monaghan grab goal in last minute to win it!

Better effort all round.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 21, 2024, 09:10:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 09:05:34 PMMonaghan 2-8 Antrim 1-6 final score.

Down drew with Tyrone 11 points to 1-08

Derry bate Down previously

Hard to work out



Tyrone shot 17 wides !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 21, 2024, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 20, 2024, 08:16:00 PMJackman is obviously well placed to comment on the state of underage football in Antrim, and maybe his points deserve an airing at some stage. But the timing of that article was appalling.

Seemed a lot more competative than expect. Maybe he provoked a reaction
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2024, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 21, 2024, 09:10:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2024, 09:05:34 PMMonaghan 2-8 Antrim 1-6 final score.

Down drew with Tyrone 11 points to 1-08

Derry bate Down previously

Hard to work out



Tyrone shot 17 wides !

And Down had one wide.. Defensively Down set up well against Tyrone and put them under pressure

Not sure what that has to do with Antrim though
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ck on March 21, 2024, 11:18:29 AM
Fair play to Jackman and U20s. Still a loss but after last week credit where credit is due.
The deep issues have not gone away but last night they can walk with their heads held high.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 21, 2024, 12:06:04 PM
Tip the hat to Niall. Blow in to the county living here and providing a free service and observations of our county set up with no agenda other than bettering antrim football, probably for the sake of his children who will be future Antrim Gaels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2024, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 21, 2024, 12:06:04 PMTip the hat to Niall. Blow in to the county living here and providing a free service and observations of our county set up with no agenda other than bettering antrim football, probably for the sake of his children who will be future Antrim Gaels.

He's getting £30k a year and a new car out of it from what I'm told. 😜
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 21, 2024, 10:58:28 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 19, 2024, 11:51:22 PMAll those games should be moved forward by at least a half hour.

Would only clash with soccer. Just have to make do.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PM
Is Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PM
What are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
I ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards

Civil? You need to work out what's civil and what's sniping at someone's fitness and ability before having a go at me ya header..

Mask slip? I don't hide, you do. At least I've the fortitude to not hide, your are definitely lacking in that department.

Lets see if the person that organisines the appointments on the system has made a typo before running your mouth of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 08:11:20 PM
I merely stated I did not think from what I have seen when he is walking across the pitch etc that he could not ref a Div 1 game but somehow I made a personal attack. I for one know that I am a similar age and not in great mobile health and I would not take it as an insult that I'm not fit enough to do a Div 1 game.

You are happy to be known when it suits you as I have seen you running to the mods before when named

As for a typo, my Christ that's some typo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards

Civil? You need to work out what's civil and what's sniping at someone's fitness and ability before having a go at me ya header..

Mask slip? I don't hide, you do. At least I've the fortitude to not hide, your are definitely lacking in that department.

Lets see if the person that organisines the appointments on the system has made a typo before running your mouth of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on March 22, 2024, 08:13:15 PM
You need to whist...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 08:23:46 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on March 22, 2024, 08:13:15 PMYou need to whist...
:-X
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 08:11:20 PMI merely stated I did not think from what I have seen when he is walking across the pitch etc that he could not ref a Div 1 game but somehow I made a personal attack. I for one know that I am a similar age and not in great mobile health and I would not take it as an insult that I'm not fit enough to do a Div 1 game.

You are happy to be known when it suits you as I have seen you running to the mods before when named

As for a typo, my Christ that's some typo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards

Civil? You need to work out what's civil and what's sniping at someone's fitness and ability before having a go at me ya header..

Mask slip? I don't hide, you do. At least I've the fortitude to not hide, your are definitely lacking in that department.

Lets see if the person that organisines the appointments on the system has made a typo before running your mouth of

Named? Its the fundamental part of the board, if some dumb shit whats a ban because he can't help himself that's on him, only a complete fool does that, and for your knowledge I've never named myself here ;D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 10:25:22 PM
Angry little man, I hope you find the peace you need

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 08:11:20 PMI merely stated I did not think from what I have seen when he is walking across the pitch etc that he could not ref a Div 1 game but somehow I made a personal attack. I for one know that I am a similar age and not in great mobile health and I would not take it as an insult that I'm not fit enough to do a Div 1 game.

You are happy to be known when it suits you as I have seen you running to the mods before when named

As for a typo, my Christ that's some typo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards

Civil? You need to work out what's civil and what's sniping at someone's fitness and ability before having a go at me ya header..

Mask slip? I don't hide, you do. At least I've the fortitude to not hide, your are definitely lacking in that department.

Lets see if the person that organisines the appointments on the system has made a typo before running your mouth of

Named? Its the fundamental part of the board, if some dumb shit whats a ban because he can't help himself that's on him, only a complete fool does that, and for your knowledge I've never named myself here ;D 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 10:25:22 PMAngry little man, I hope you find the peace you need

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 08:11:20 PMI merely stated I did not think from what I have seen when he is walking across the pitch etc that he could not ref a Div 1 game but somehow I made a personal attack. I for one know that I am a similar age and not in great mobile health and I would not take it as an insult that I'm not fit enough to do a Div 1 game.

You are happy to be known when it suits you as I have seen you running to the mods before when named

As for a typo, my Christ that's some typo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards

Civil? You need to work out what's civil and what's sniping at someone's fitness and ability before having a go at me ya header..

Mask slip? I don't hide, you do. At least I've the fortitude to not hide, your are definitely lacking in that department.

Lets see if the person that organisines the appointments on the system has made a typo before running your mouth of

Named? Its the fundamental part of the board, if some dumb shit whats a ban because he can't help himself that's on him, only a complete fool does that, and for your knowledge I've never named myself here ;D 

If you have a problem with someone pulling you up on your snide remarks I'm grand with that.

Making up stuff? Well that's on you unfit old man ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 11:12:33 PM
Snide remarks?? Which remark was snide?

Who said you were 'making stuff up'?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 10:25:22 PMAngry little man, I hope you find the peace you need

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 08:11:20 PMI merely stated I did not think from what I have seen when he is walking across the pitch etc that he could not ref a Div 1 game but somehow I made a personal attack. I for one know that I am a similar age and not in great mobile health and I would not take it as an insult that I'm not fit enough to do a Div 1 game.

You are happy to be known when it suits you as I have seen you running to the mods before when named

As for a typo, my Christ that's some typo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI ask a civil question and you turn into the nasty little troll that you are, as I said before every now and then your mask slips

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 06:35:10 PMWhat are you talking about?? I asked a question and pointed out that (a) from my observations he does not appear that he would be reffing (nothing personal nor an attack) and b. I never seen him refer before.....

To appease you however, I will ask. Should Ballymena and Creggan be expecting Anthony to be reffing their game tomorrow or is it someone else?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 22, 2024, 03:00:43 PMIs Anthony McCague not the chap who stands by the side of the pitch during championship games with an earpiece in? I see he is down to ref Ballymena v Creggan, I didn't think by that man he would be fit for it and has he even reffed before?

Sniping behind the computer... you're some lad ;D

Get your photo up so we can have a laugh

Go to the game tomorrow and let me know afterwards

Civil? You need to work out what's civil and what's sniping at someone's fitness and ability before having a go at me ya header..

Mask slip? I don't hide, you do. At least I've the fortitude to not hide, your are definitely lacking in that department.

Lets see if the person that organisines the appointments on the system has made a typo before running your mouth of

Named? Its the fundamental part of the board, if some dumb shit whats a ban because he can't help himself that's on him, only a complete fool does that, and for your knowledge I've never named myself here ;D 

If you have a problem with someone pulling you up on your snide remarks I'm grand with that.

Making up stuff? Well that's on you unfit old man ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 23, 2024, 12:31:49 AM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on March 22, 2024, 08:13:15 PMYou need to whist...

They both need to whist....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 09:07:59 AM
Do you honestly think that this person who you think it is, is actually doing this match?

 

Then you question his fitness and ability and think it's not being snide?

Wise up!

Go to the match and tell me later how he done

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 09:24:51 AM
Honestly I don't know, I for one assumed if his name was down against the game he was down to do it, if not why would his name be down? A reasonable assumption I believe

I wasn't being snide I was merely pointing out I would be surprised for my observations. It seems you really are an angry twisted wee man

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 09:07:59 AMDo you honestly think that this person who you think it is, is actually doing this match?

 

Then you question his fitness and ability and think it's not being snide?

Wise up!

Go to the match and tell me later how he done


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 09:24:51 AMHonestly I don't know, I for one assumed if his name was down against the game he was down to do it, if not why would his name be down? A reasonable assumption I believe

I wasn't being snide I was merely pointing out I would be surprised for my observations. It seems you really are an angry twisted wee man

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 09:07:59 AMDo you honestly think that this person who you think it is, is actually doing this match?

 

Then you question his fitness and ability and think it's not being snide?

Wise up!

Go to the match and tell me later how he done



And you're an old grumpy git?

Let's just say, you're wrong on at least two fronts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 10:17:24 AM
I maybe old and grumpy, not sure about git.

Simple question do you know who is reffing that game today? I don't get all the cloak and dagger stuff, however it seems to have gotten you very defensive


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 09:24:51 AMHonestly I don't know, I for one assumed if his name was down against the game he was down to do it, if not why would his name be down? A reasonable assumption I believe

I wasn't being snide I was merely pointing out I would be surprised for my observations. It seems you really are an angry twisted wee man

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 09:07:59 AMDo you honestly think that this person who you think it is, is actually doing this match?

 

Then you question his fitness and ability and think it's not being snide?

Wise up!

Go to the match and tell me later how he done



And you're an old grumpy git?

Let's just say, you're wrong on at least two fronts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 10:17:24 AMI maybe old and grumpy, not sure about git.

Simple question do you know who is reffing that game today? I don't get all the cloak and dagger stuff, however it seems to have gotten you very defensive


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 09:24:51 AMHonestly I don't know, I for one assumed if his name was down against the game he was down to do it, if not why would his name be down? A reasonable assumption I believe

I wasn't being snide I was merely pointing out I would be surprised for my observations. It seems you really are an angry twisted wee man

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 09:07:59 AMDo you honestly think that this person who you think it is, is actually doing this match?

 

Then you question his fitness and ability and think it's not being snide?

Wise up!

Go to the match and tell me later how he done



And you're an old grumpy git?

Let's just say, you're wrong on at least two fronts


I know and I know the reason why, it's not a big deal either. The appointments for senior games have always been a priority.

Why give off about someone's ability (he's done the course btw) and their fitness while not naming yourself is a bit fly in my book.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 10:36:54 AM
So who is it then?

And you're the one against naming oneself on here!! I would not be fit to ref a game and that is a fact and nothing I am ashamed off given my age, my name is irrelevant on that point

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Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 10:17:24 AMI maybe old and grumpy, not sure about git.

Simple question do you know who is reffing that game today? I don't get all the cloak and dagger stuff, however it seems to have gotten you very defensive


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: Would ye whist on March 23, 2024, 09:24:51 AMHonestly I don't know, I for one assumed if his name was down against the game he was down to do it, if not why would his name be down? A reasonable assumption I believe

I wasn't being snide I was merely pointing out I would be surprised for my observations. It seems you really are an angry twisted wee man

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2024, 09:07:59 AMDo you honestly think that this person who you think it is, is actually doing this match?

 

Then you question his fitness and ability and think it's not being snide?

Wise up!

Go to the match and tell me later how he done



And you're an old grumpy git?

Let's just say, you're wrong on at least two fronts


I know and I know the reason why, it's not a big deal either. The appointments for senior games have always been a priority.

Why give off about someone's ability (he's done the course btw) and their fitness while not naming yourself is a bit fly in my book.


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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: referee on March 23, 2024, 11:26:44 AM
It's been known for different people have the same name lol,in all honesty if a fella in man enough to take the ref course,pass it and be willing to ref,fair play to him,on another note,could either see alot off mud baths or postponements if the rain keeps up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on March 23, 2024, 06:05:30 PM
Armagh 7-16
Antrim 0-02
Another bad result for our underage set-up.
Armagh wouldn't be known for being an underage powerhouse, which makes this result standout for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 23, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 23, 2024, 06:05:30 PMArmagh 7-16
Antrim 0-02
Another bad result for our underage set-up.
Armagh wouldn't be known for being an underage powerhouse, which makes this result standout for me.
Another horrendous beating, and as you say Armagh are no big shakes. Apathy from top to bottom. I genuinely don't know where you'd even start to fix this as we've fallen miles behind and it's been decades in the making. A multitude of issues.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on March 23, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 23, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 23, 2024, 06:05:30 PMArmagh 7-16
Antrim 0-02
Another bad result for our underage set-up.
Armagh wouldn't be known for being an underage powerhouse, which makes this result standout for me.
Another horrendous beating, and as you say Armagh are no big shakes. Apathy from top to bottom. I genuinely don't know where you'd even start to fix this as we've fallen miles behind and it's been decades in the making. A multitude of issues.

Armagh had success at u16 level last year I believe and have hope to follow that through to minors, with aidan o rourke taking the reigns this year. I would say they are decent enough tbf.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 23, 2024, 09:25:17 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on March 23, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 23, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 23, 2024, 06:05:30 PMArmagh 7-16
Antrim 0-02
Another bad result for our underage set-up.
Armagh wouldn't be known for being an underage powerhouse, which makes this result standout for me.
Another horrendous beating, and as you say Armagh are no big shakes. Apathy from top to bottom. I genuinely don't know where you'd even start to fix this as we've fallen miles behind and it's been decades in the making. A multitude of issues.

Armagh had success at u16 level last year I believe and have hope to follow that through to minors, with aidan o rourke taking the reigns this year. I would say they are decent enough tbf.


Perhaps but considering this result was in "the shield", it's probably fair to say that they haven't been setting the world alight in previous games.

Anyway, we've been through it all when the U20s took a similar tanking. Same applies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2024, 10:19:19 PM
I can't remember it being this bad though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 23, 2024, 10:40:27 PM
Yeah, I believe the standard is getting worse or we are getting left further behind by everyone else. Both probably. That said, results like this did happen 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2024, 11:50:50 PM
Did they?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2024, 01:23:21 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on March 23, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 23, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 23, 2024, 06:05:30 PMArmagh 7-16
Antrim 0-02
Another bad result for our underage set-up.
Armagh wouldn't be known for being an underage powerhouse, which makes this result standout for me.
Another horrendous beating, and as you say Armagh are no big shakes. Apathy from top to bottom. I genuinely don't know where you'd even start to fix this as we've fallen miles behind and it's been decades in the making. A multitude of issues.

Armagh had success at u16 level last year I believe and have hope to follow that through to minors, with aidan o rourke taking the reigns this year. I would say they are decent enough tbf.


Armagh U15 had success in 2022 also. It's a group capable of winning the Ulster minor title however with Aidan O'Rourke in charge I have my doubts that will happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2024, 07:44:03 AM
Those couple of recent results further emphasise the necessity for the formation of a football sub committee, headed up by a DOF who is hungry for success and the energy to drive change. Otherwise the gap will only get bigger.

County executive need to make this a priority, otherwise we are destined to endure the same, if not worsening level of mediocrity for future generations, new Casement Park or not.

Pressure on seniors to deliver today is ramped up even further now, a drop to Division Four is simply not fathomable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AM
If we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2024, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

Is this after your game yesterday?  ;)

I think it's going  back at some point.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on March 24, 2024, 10:30:04 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

From where I see things the grading problem starts long before seniors.
Is there another county in Ireland that doesn't do grading until U16 cause that's what happening in our league structure now.
Our neighbouring counties have grading at go-game level !!
So yes coaching massive problem and not easily fixed overnight but having so many non competitive games right up to the age of 16 now is a shambles.
How can kids progress progress if they aren't getting competitive games each week which is what happens in non graded league structures.

As for losing today=disaster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on March 24, 2024, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 24, 2024, 10:30:04 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

From where I see things the grading problem starts long before seniors.
Is there another county in Ireland that doesn't do grading until U16 cause that's what happening in our league structure now.
Our neighbouring counties have grading at go-game level !!
So yes coaching massive problem and not easily fixed overnight but having so many non competitive games right up to the age of 16 now is a shambles.
How can kids progress progress if they aren't getting competitive games each week which is what happens in non graded league structures.

As for losing today=disaster.

Pretty sure go games hurling is graded in North Antrim. I know when my wee lad was there his team would put a team in the top and third grades if they had enough boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2024, 05:39:07 PM
Good, and important, win today. We made hard work of it but definitely deserved the win. Picked up a few injuries again which didn't help but good to get McCann and Haynes some game time at least. Wicklow when they went at us did pose a few problems- I think we maybe struggle at full back - but when we got McBride and /or Jordan in a bit of space we caused them a good few problems too.

I think down will be too much for us but if we can get more boys back then hopefully we can get a run in the tailteann. If we get enough back for the down game maybe we can give them a rattle but I think we're missing too many.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2024, 07:07:56 PM
That was some victory today, only the oul hans will recall the back and forward, nip and tuck, we've had with Wicklow over a 20 year span. To come out on top is brilliant, to achieve our major priority of securing Div 3 status is just fantastic.

6 points in this competitive division with such a depleted squad is a superb achievement, go lads and enjoy your night, thoroughly deserved.

Superb performances from most, Big Eunan at FB, Kavan at CB (who would have foreseen it) Joe at HB, Hynds boys looking better very game, Decy Lynch running the show and Paddy McBride playing out of his skin.

Happy as a sand boy tonight, and make no apologies for it. Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2024, 07:52:35 PM
It was a good win bs. I don't get to many games at the minute so a few boys would have been new to me but kavan at corner back is a real warrior of a boy. Definitely merits his place.

Agree with most of what you say and would have to add I still think Jordan is maybe the best we have. Also I was impressed by hand when he came on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 24, 2024, 08:31:30 PM
Jordy a class act no doubt ITG and 100% agree, Conor Hand didn't put a foot wrong when he was called in. That's the danger of giving shout outs, Ryan McQuillan a baller too, great future in Saffron.

So many lads getting game time that mightnt have if a full complement was available 

As a man beside me in the stand pointed out, we finished that game without a player from Cargin Portglenone or Creggan. Who could have foreseen it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: statto on March 24, 2024, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on March 23, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 23, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: erinsboy on March 23, 2024, 06:05:30 PMArmagh 7-16
Antrim 0-02
Another bad result for our underage set-up.
Armagh wouldn't be known for being an underage powerhouse, which makes this result standout for me.
Another horrendous beating, and as you say Armagh are no big shakes. Apathy from top to bottom. I genuinely don't know where you'd even start to fix this as we've fallen miles behind and it's been decades in the making. A multitude of issues.

Armagh had success at u16 level last year I believe and have hope to follow that through to minors, with aidan o rourke taking the reigns this year. I would say they are decent enough tbf.


the team is backboned by a number of dromintee lads who won the Paul McGirr,so while traditionally Armagh haven't been great at underage this should be a decent side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 24, 2024, 08:53:15 PM
Good win today for the men's senior team and the Belfast ladies team!

Super Sundays indeed
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2024, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 24, 2024, 08:53:15 PMGood win today for the men's senior team and the Belfast ladies team!

Super Sundays indeed

Teams holding the county to ransom?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on March 24, 2024, 09:37:20 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on March 08, 2024, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PMwhat about division 2 and 3?

Starts 23rd/24th
who are favourites for promotion/relegation

o'Dees will win Div 3 fairly handy I think

Div 2 Lisburn for the drop and Sarsfields should win it
who stood out in the opening weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Would ye whist on March 24, 2024, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on March 08, 2024, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PMwhat about division 2 and 3?

Starts 23rd/24th
who are favourites for promotion/relegation

o'Dees will win Div 3 fairly handy I think

Div 2 Lisburn for the drop and Sarsfields should win it
who stood out in the opening weekend
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Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 24, 2024, 09:37:20 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on March 08, 2024, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2024, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: Round or stuffed on March 07, 2024, 05:47:30 PMwhat about division 2 and 3?

Starts 23rd/24th
who are favourites for promotion/relegation

o'Dees will win Div 3 fairly handy I think

Div 2 Lisburn for the drop and Sarsfields should win it
who stood out in the opening weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 24, 2024, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 24, 2024, 08:31:30 PMJordy a class act no doubt ITG and 100% agree, Conor Hand didn't put a foot wrong when he was called in. That's the danger of giving shout outs, Ryan McQuillan a baller too, great future in Saffron.

So many lads getting game time that mightnt have if a full complement was available 

As a man beside me in the stand pointed out, we finished that game without a player from Cargin Portglenone or Creggan. Who could have foreseen it?

Daniel mcnicholl came on at 72
Only being picky  ;D
Great win, mcbride scores class
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 25, 2024, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

Explain how having 8 teams would make the county better? A nice condescending tone from a Cargin man in his ivory tower.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 25, 2024, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 25, 2024, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

Explain how having 8 teams would make the county better? A nice condescending tone from a Cargin man in his ivory tower.

8 teams playing constantly playing competitive games makes all 8 better. The other 8 teams constantly playing teams at their own level will make them better.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2024, 09:08:27 AM
There's arguments for and against.

From first two games I've seen decent showings from some of the teams that should have been relegated and ones that were brought up

It's not the best scenario if I'm being honest but it's in place and the majority of clubs voted it in.

So let it pan out and let's see at end of season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 09:14:11 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

If this was later in the year after county was finished i could understand your case. In march though, not so much. Some of the newly promoted teams are countributing more county men than some of "these top 8 teams" and competing. Took 2 points off a team and ran a "top 3 team" to 2 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on March 25, 2024, 09:54:58 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 25, 2024, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

Explain how having 8 teams would make the county better? A nice condescending tone from a Cargin man in his ivory tower.
Agree with IBS my point exactly,
In the same vein All Star can you explain for example how Cargin/Portglenone/Creggan playing Aldergrove (a team who couldnt gain promotion out of Division 2 on their own merit) makes the county better? No offence meant to anyone in Aldergrove by the way. Forget about scorelines in March i'm taking a wider view on it. Come the championship there will some seriously one sided games
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 25, 2024, 10:13:11 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 25, 2024, 09:54:58 AM
Quote from: AllStar15 on March 25, 2024, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on March 24, 2024, 08:41:04 AMIf we ever had a football sub committee  their first job should be to reduce division 1 to 8 teams. There are so many sub standard teams in there, at least 4 of them would be in Division 3/4 in any other county and it's doing no one any favours, them or other teams that strive for better.

Explain how having 8 teams would make the county better? A nice condescending tone from a Cargin man in his ivory tower.
Agree with IBS my point exactly,
In the same vein All Star can you explain for example how Cargin/Portglenone/Creggan playing Aldergrove (a team who couldnt gain promotion out of Division 2 on their own merit) makes the county better? No offence meant to anyone in Aldergrove by the way. Forget about scorelines in March i'm taking a wider view on it. Come the championship there will some seriously one sided games

Arguably Aldergrove have the best claim to be playing Div 1 out of the teams that benefitted from the league changes, finishing 2nd. Point taken though. All leagues have a gulf, Antrim is no different to leagues up and down the country. I don't think it will hurt the senior championship overly, as after the group stages it's your best 8 anyway. I think it benefits the weaker teams playing against higher quality. As MR2 said, we will see how it plays out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2024, 10:14:22 AM
Antrim's leagues are different now though. Far far too many teams in division 1 - dunno how this was thought to be a good idea. How many other counties are like that?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on March 25, 2024, 10:31:35 AM
not much we can do with the league structures now.  we just have to live with them and see how the year plays out.   normally the weaker teams will be hungry for points at the start of the year anyway so not much has changed but come late league or championship i would agree there could be some wallopings handed out.  we will only know at the end of the season if it needs to be readdressed.   

Important win for Antrim at the weekend. The league campaign has been fairly poor but thankfully the unanticipated gift of Offaly, Wicklow and Limerick being exceptionally tragic gave us a lifeline.

It is all about the championship, the only barometer that we have.  A good showing will confine the league campaign to the dustbin.   
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: outinfront on March 25, 2024, 11:21:41 AM
I cannot understand the league restructuring.  Many other counties have been trying to get less teams in the leagues in order to make them as competitive as possible. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thegladiator on March 25, 2024, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: outinfront on March 25, 2024, 11:21:41 AMI cannot understand the league restructuring.  Many other counties have been trying to get less teams in the leagues in order to make them as competitive as possible. 

But we here in Antrim seem to know better given the number of ulster championships & all-irelands we have in the locker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 12:34:05 PM
Awful news out of Moneyglass club today
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on March 25, 2024, 12:41:44 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 12:34:05 PMAwful news out of Moneyglass club today

Terrible! Bless the family and club, heart breaking altogether. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2024, 01:50:03 PM
Terrible tragic news.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 25, 2024, 02:44:25 PM
Absolutely terrible. Did he play senior football?

Just reading some of the comments on social media. It's absolutely terrible and all too common. A fit young fella with a so much to look forward to in life.

God help that family and his friends.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 25, 2024, 02:44:25 PMAbsolutely terrible. Did he play senior football?

Just reading some of the comments on social media. It's absolutely terrible and all too common. A fit young fella with a so much to look forward to in life.

God help that family and his friends.

He did. Good player
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Níl a fhios agam on March 26, 2024, 09:21:24 AM
Very sad news. Football is irrelevant when you hear things like that. Condolences to the whole Moneyglass community where no doubt he will be a huge miss on and off the field.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 26, 2024, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 26, 2024, 09:21:24 AMVery sad news. Football is irrelevant when you hear things like that. Condolences to the whole Moneyglass community where no doubt he will be a huge miss on and off the field.

Yes you hit the nail on the head there.
You think Football is life and death, especially with some of the chat on here!!

The topic around Moneyglass on Saturday evening/Sunday afternoon was whether smileys red card was deserved or not.
And then......

I suppose the thing to be made aware is now, amongst all us men, is to talk. Talk more, ask your friend how you're keeping.
Whether its in the middle of a session, 6 pints in, or driving along in the car and the craic is good. Ask the question. Cause no one knows.

Yes, 99.9% of the time you're going get the standard answer - yes all good.

But maybe one time, someone will open up lives will saved.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: marty34 on March 26, 2024, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 26, 2024, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 26, 2024, 09:21:24 AMVery sad news. Football is irrelevant when you hear things like that. Condolences to the whole Moneyglass community where no doubt he will be a huge miss on and off the field.

Yes you hit the nail on the head there.
You think Football is life and death, especially with some of the chat on here!!

The topic around Moneyglass on Saturday evening/Sunday afternoon was whether smileys red card was deserved or not.
And then......

I suppose the thing to be made aware is now, amongst all us men, is to talk. Talk more, ask your friend how you're keeping.
Whether its in the middle of a session, 6 pints in, or driving along in the car and the craic is good. Ask the question. Cause no one knows.

Yes, 99.9% of the time you're going get the standard answer - yes all good.

But maybe one time, someone will open up lives will saved.

Well said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2024, 10:15:27 PM
Excellent post Big G.

Sincere condolences from all at Casements, I believe a lot of our senior panel were at the very sad wakehouse earlier.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: country bumpkin on March 27, 2024, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 26, 2024, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 26, 2024, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Níl a fhios agam on March 26, 2024, 09:21:24 AMVery sad news. Football is irrelevant when you hear things like that. Condolences to the whole Moneyglass community where no doubt he will be a huge miss on and off the field.

Yes you hit the nail on the head there.
You think Football is life and death, especially with some of the chat on here!!

The topic around Moneyglass on Saturday evening/Sunday afternoon was whether smileys red card was deserved or not.
And then......

I suppose the thing to be made aware is now, amongst all us men, is to talk. Talk more, ask your friend how you're keeping.
Whether its in the middle of a session, 6 pints in, or driving along in the car and the craic is good. Ask the question. Cause no one knows.

Yes, 99.9% of the time you're going get the standard answer - yes all good.

But maybe one time, someone will open up lives will saved.

Well said.

All well said but sometimes one tragedy in the extreme forgets to consider another.

Wee Jacks passing was and is mourned quite rightly by a multitude, but please give a thought to another young lad from Creggan who decided to leave this world far too soon, immersed in despair and loneliness.

Rest in Peace Joe Pat, back with his mum and dad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2024, 09:21:58 AM
Absolutely tragic for all involved this week and a sad cloud over the Toome & Duneane parish.

Puts in all into perspective.

Look after yourself and your mates. I know I've found alot of comfort in the depression thread on this board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Points a Good Score on March 28, 2024, 10:01:27 AM
A very tough week in Moneyglass with more difficult days to follow.

I've been lucky to know Jack McCoy since he was a very young lad, an absolute giant of a man in a wee body. Bravery, skill and endeavour where his best characteristics on the pitch, but off it is where he really excelled, a quick wit and sharp personality, a friend to old and young alike with the ability to interact and converse with both just the same.

Nothing was ever a problem to Jack, we're light in numbers today Jack can you play corner back, no problem, man marking job today Jack, no problem.

An IFC semi final against St Paul's a few years ago epitomised him most, in a game St Paul's looked like winning all the way through Jack never gave up, he contributed scores, blocks and tackles all night, covering 19kms over the 80 minutes a phenomenal effort.

We'll all miss him terribly both on and off the pitch.

There's no problem in this world that can't be solved, speak out and seek help don't suffer in silence like our dear friend.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: toby47 on March 28, 2024, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 28, 2024, 10:01:27 AMA very tough week in Moneyglass with more difficult days to follow.

I've been lucky to know Jack McCoy since he was a very young lad, an absolute giant of a man in a wee body. Bravery, skill and endeavour where his best characteristics on the pitch, but off it is where he really excelled, a quick wit and sharp personality, a friend to old and young alike with the ability to interact and converse with both just the same.

Nothing was ever a problem to Jack, we're light in numbers today Jack can you play corner back, no problem, man marking job today Jack, no problem.

An IFC semi final against St Paul's a few years ago epitomised him most, in a game St Paul's looked like winning all the way through Jack never gave up, he contributed scores, blocks and tackles all night, covering 19kms over the 80 minutes a phenomenal effort.

We'll all miss him terribly both on and off the pitch.

There's no problem in this world that can't be solved, speak out and seek help don't suffer in silence like our dear friend.

Gutting to read, RIP Jack.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2024, 10:16:04 AM
Quote from: Points a Good Score on March 28, 2024, 10:01:27 AMA very tough week in Moneyglass with more difficult days to follow.

I've been lucky to know Jack McCoy since he was a very young lad, an absolute giant of a man in a wee body. Bravery, skill and endeavour where his best characteristics on the pitch, but off it is where he really excelled, a quick wit and sharp personality, a friend to old and young alike with the ability to interact and converse with both just the same.

Nothing was ever a problem to Jack, we're light in numbers today Jack can you play corner back, no problem, man marking job today Jack, no problem.

An IFC semi final against St Paul's a few years ago epitomised him most, in a game St Paul's looked like winning all the way through Jack never gave up, he contributed scores, blocks and tackles all night, covering 19kms over the 80 minutes a phenomenal effort.

We'll all miss him terribly both on and off the pitch.

There's no problem in this world that can't be solved, speak out and seek help don't suffer in silence like our dear friend.

 :( RIP
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on March 28, 2024, 10:39:07 AM
Heartbreaking to hear all this.  The country is full of good people. Keep talking.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on April 02, 2024, 08:12:19 AM
Heard Cargin and LD cut up rough last day out? 4 men sent to the line, 2 from each team. Big Shivers received a straight red and him not even stripped? That will be a lengthy suspension you'd imagine?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: belfastsaff on April 02, 2024, 11:40:03 AM
5 Games ive heard! i presume this doesnt affect him playing for the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on April 02, 2024, 12:07:52 PM
I thought the likes of incidents like that were more a timeframe than number of games? 3months which would then rule him out for the Saffs? MR2 would know ruling? Could be a loss after finding a bit of form again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2024, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on April 02, 2024, 12:07:52 PMI thought the likes of incidents like that were more a timeframe than number of games? 3months which would then rule him out for the Saffs? MR2 would know ruling? Could be a loss after finding a bit of form again

Ref's wouldn't have a clue on suspensions tbf

They put a report in and it's up to someone else up the ladder.

Looking at the score line it looked like a handy one
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BelSaft on April 03, 2024, 04:56:22 PM
I thought it depended on the severity or length of suspension?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 03, 2024, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on April 03, 2024, 04:56:22 PMI thought it depended on the severity or length of suspension?

It does depend on severity, Category V and VI suspensions are across codes and all levels.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 03, 2024, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 03, 2024, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on April 03, 2024, 04:56:22 PMI thought it depended on the severity or length of suspension?

It does depend on severity, Category V and VI suspensions are across codes and all levels.
not in this case lads
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2024, 07:15:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2024, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 03, 2024, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on April 03, 2024, 04:56:22 PMI thought it depended on the severity or length of suspension?

It does depend on severity, Category V and VI suspensions are across codes and all levels.
not in this case lads

What case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 03, 2024, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2024, 07:15:36 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 03, 2024, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 03, 2024, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: BelSaft on April 03, 2024, 04:56:22 PMI thought it depended on the severity or length of suspension?

It does depend on severity, Category V and VI suspensions are across codes and all levels.
not in this case lads

What case?
No case, meant this instance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2024, 07:46:46 PM
Thought it escalated lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2024, 08:21:45 PM
Under 20s 7 3 up against down at half time. Be great to see a win there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2024, 08:33:19 PM
Should have said nothing...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2024, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 03, 2024, 08:33:19 PMShould have said nothing...


You jinxed it ITG
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Round or stuffed on April 04, 2024, 12:57:20 PM
Predictions?

Senior Football League
Division One (all games at 2.00pm)

Tir na Nog Randalstown v St Ergnat's Moneyglass
St John's v St Brigid's
Erin's Own Cargin v O' Donovan Rossa
Lamh Dhearg v St James Aldergrove
Casement's Portglenone v All Saint's Ballymena
Kickham's Creggan v St Enda's
Con Magees Glenravel v St Mary's Ahoghill
St Mary's Aghagallon v St Galls

Division Two

St Teresa's v Gort na Mona
St Paul's v St Patrick's Lisburn
Kickham's Ardoyne v Patrick Sarsfield's
Michael Davitt's v St Mary's Rasharkin
St Joseph's Glenavy v Cuchullian's Dunloy

Division Three

Wolfe Tones v Laochra Loch Lao
St Comgall's v Eire Og
St Agnes v Cardinal O' Donnell's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 04, 2024, 01:21:45 PM
County players available for this weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 04, 2024, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 04, 2024, 01:21:45 PMCounty players available for this weekend?

6 Days before Ulster championship match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 04, 2024, 04:37:05 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 04, 2024, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 04, 2024, 01:21:45 PMCounty players available for this weekend?

6 Days before Ulster championship match?

championship now doesnt seem to matter.  tailteann cup the priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 05, 2024, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 04, 2024, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 04, 2024, 01:21:45 PMCounty players available for this weekend?

6 Days before Ulster championship match?


Thought it was a fortnight away. My bad
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AM
Any objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2024, 09:39:51 AM
Still too many. Only round 3 of the league. (It would have been ballymena and aldergrove but same point would apply)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2024, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?

These teams will be way ahead fitness wise than any of the regular Div1 Teams, they know the only chance they have is to pick up early points and then try to cling on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 08, 2024, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2024, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?

These teams will be way ahead fitness wise than any of the regular Div1 Teams, they know the only chance they have is to pick up early points and then try to cling on.

Not necessarily true, Glenravel down 10 players due to county hurling/football and soccer atm.

Any word on the reserve league's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 08, 2024, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2024, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?

These teams will be way ahead fitness wise than any of the regular Div1 Teams, they know the only chance they have is to pick up early points and then try to cling on.

Nothing up yet. When are reserve games? Pre or post senior games or friday nights?
Fair balls up from the county regarding minors playing senior. Rule put in the effectivly done away with with the games on the same day

Not necessarily true, Glenravel down 10 players due to county hurling/football and soccer atm.

Any word on the reserve league's?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

different locations
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

Cargin Vs St Paul's? 100% wasn't played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

Cargin Vs St Paul's? 100% wasn't played.

Never mentioned the minor Cargin game. You said pitch was bad I said minor game played on it earlier ( as per Antrim GAA results) but probably played elsewhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
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Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

Cargin Vs St Paul's? 100% wasn't played.

Never mentioned the minor Cargin game. You said pitch was bad I said minor game played on it earlier ( as per Antrim GAA results) but probably played elsewhere?

Rossa were due to play in Cargin so a minor match on Rossa's pitch wouldn't have made a difference to their senior match. Both minor and senior matches scheduled for Cargin were not played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 09:43:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

Cargin Vs St Paul's? 100% wasn't played.

Never mentioned the minor Cargin game. You said pitch was bad I said minor game played on it earlier ( as per Antrim GAA results) but probably played elsewhere?

Rossa were due to play in Cargin so a minor match on Rossa's pitch wouldn't have made a difference to their senior match. Both minor and senior matches scheduled for Cargin were not played.

Ah!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 09, 2024, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 09:43:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

Cargin Vs St Paul's? 100% wasn't played.

Never mentioned the minor Cargin game. You said pitch was bad I said minor game played on it earlier ( as per Antrim GAA results) but probably played elsewhere?

Rossa were due to play in Cargin so a minor match on Rossa's pitch wouldn't have made a difference to their senior match. Both minor and senior matches scheduled for Cargin were not played.

Ah!



Not like you to get things totally wrong 😊


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2024, 08:53:51 PM
Quote from: Lár na páirce 1 on April 09, 2024, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 09:43:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: AllStar15 on April 08, 2024, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2024, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 08, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 09:22:08 AMAny objections to Glenravel and Aldergroves inclusion in div 1 now? Both taking pts off top half teams?
Who objected to Glenravels inclusion? they were promoted from Div2. On Aldergrove, come back on here at the end of the league and summarise how they have performed. 'Top half team' is a very broad statement in a 16 team league

Did Rossa fail to field at the weekend?

Postponed due to a bad pitch

Was a minor game on it at 12, must have cut up badly

Neither match was played

Must have played it elsewhere as I seen photo and the score-line online ;)

Cargin Vs St Paul's? 100% wasn't played.

Never mentioned the minor Cargin game. You said pitch was bad I said minor game played on it earlier ( as per Antrim GAA results) but probably played elsewhere?

Rossa were due to play in Cargin so a minor match on Rossa's pitch wouldn't have made a difference to their senior match. Both minor and senior matches scheduled for Cargin were not played.

Ah!



Not like you to get things totally wrong 😊



Aye, it happens

Hopefully both pitches are ready for next week ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: asaffgael on April 10, 2024, 08:19:24 PM
Let's hope there was a really strong wind with that u20 half time score...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 10, 2024, 09:06:33 PM
Quote from: asaffgael on April 10, 2024, 08:19:24 PMLet's hope there was a really strong wind with that u20 half time score...
It looks like Tyrone and Derry u20s are two of the top teams in Ireland at this level, Monaghan losing to Tyrone by the same as we lost to Derry tonight.  Nonetheless there is no doubt we are in a bad place across all underage levels in football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: erinsboy on April 10, 2024, 09:21:14 PM
Derry 5.16
Antrim 0.03
Look I don't have the answers but the country is laughing at us at this stage.How have we got even worse?
Fair play to the lads showing up and playing for our county but we really need help from somewhere at this stage cause this isn't fair on them .It really doesn't look good for the future,we really seem to be at rock bottom.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2024, 11:43:31 PM
At that age with the pulls of college, starting careers, travel, women and going out with mates a good few of those lads are bound to question if they can be fucked getting a hammering.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 11, 2024, 08:06:32 AM
bit of context too, that Derry team were all ireland minor winners,they beat Cork & Kerry in recent challenge games, put six goals past Cork and 7 past kerry. Derry & Tyrone would be the 2 hot favourites to win u20 all ireland. If are a DIV 3 team at senior(just about) what makes us think we can compete at the top tier at underage?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 11, 2024, 08:24:19 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 11, 2024, 08:06:32 AMbit of context too, that Derry team were all ireland minor winners,they beat Cork & Kerry in recent challenge games, put six goals past Cork and 7 past kerry. Derry & Tyrone would be the 2 hot favourites to win u20 all ireland. If are a DIV 3 team at senior(just about) what makes us think we can compete at the top tier at underage?
The people who constantly tell us how amazing the juvenile footballers in their club are.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 11, 2024, 09:15:12 AM
Culture. That Derry team is South Derry. They Eat Sleep and Breathe football. We unfortunatly dont. Will that change, probably not
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2024, 10:13:52 AM
we may start putting our resources into the ladies football as we are getting further away from the top in the mens football.   keep making the same mistakes year after year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2024, 10:17:25 AM
Better putting it into the hurling surely? Lets just be a single code county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 11, 2024, 10:32:56 AM
We're as far away in hurling as we are football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 11, 2024, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 11, 2024, 10:32:56 AMWe're as far away in hurling as we are football.

Probobaly easier to close the gap in football?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 11, 2024, 11:06:55 AM
is it?

at least we are in the top 3rd of hurling counties
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 11, 2024, 11:13:53 AM
Do even a 3rd of the counties take hurling seriously?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 11, 2024, 02:42:23 PM
Forgot about the whole thing. Throw everything we have into Scor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AM
What about Handball lol? Or Rounders?

The recent results at Minor or under 20 level are alarming, and yet another wake up call that the gap is widening between the traditionally strongfootball counties and the rest.

As Saffs of 82 says, maybe we are Div 3 across the board, at all levels....in which case we are going to take some hammerings against top Div 1 sides.

We are a fairly prudent bunch here, no one thinks we are able to compete at the top tables. But surely we can aspire to get to the second division across the board and continue organic growth from there.

If all relevant parties (clubs in particular but also schools and co development squads) could find 10% extra from somewhere, and another 10% on top of that the following year, we would be on a much better footing.

That's a lot of buy in required - and some group/body/committee needs to start selling that soon!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:30:22 AM
Best of luck to Andy and the senior squad as they head to Pairc Esler tomorrow evening.

It was a privilege to have been there 14 months ago to see us going at Down in the league, for definite one of my proudest nights as an Antrim Supporter, even in defeat.

We are 9 players missing from the team that represented us that night, and that's a massive loss, but the boys getting a jersey tomorrow night have nothing to lose but go out and perform and hopefully stay in the contest long enough to put a doubt in Downs head.

Best of luck all.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2024, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:30:22 AMBest of luck to Andy and the senior squad as they head to Pairc Esler tomorrow evening.

It was a privilege to have been there 14 months ago to see us going at Down in the league, for definite one of my proudest nights as an Antrim Supporter, even in defeat.

We are 9 players missing from the team that represented us that night, and that's a massive loss, but the boys getting a jersey tomorrow night have nothing to lose but go out and perform and hopefully stay in the contest long enough to put a doubt in Downs head.

Best of luck all.

Agree 100%. We can only work with what we have so let's do it.


Good luck lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AMWhat about Handball lol? Or Rounders?

The recent results at Minor or under 20 level are alarming, and yet another wake up call that the gap is widening between the traditionally strongfootball counties and the rest.

As Saffs of 82 says, maybe we are Div 3 across the board, at all levels....in which case we are going to take some hammerings against top Div 1 sides.

We are a fairly prudent bunch here, no one thinks we are able to compete at the top tables. But surely we can aspire to get to the second division across the board and continue organic growth from there.

If all relevant parties (clubs in particular but also schools and co development squads) could find 10% extra from somewhere, and another 10% on top of that the following year, we would be on a much better footing.

That's a lot of buy in required - and some group/body/committee needs to start selling that soon!

Has Gaelfast made no difference then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AMWhat about Handball lol? Or Rounders?

The recent results at Minor or under 20 level are alarming, and yet another wake up call that the gap is widening between the traditionally strongfootball counties and the rest.

As Saffs of 82 says, maybe we are Div 3 across the board, at all levels....in which case we are going to take some hammerings against top Div 1 sides.

We are a fairly prudent bunch here, no one thinks we are able to compete at the top tables. But surely we can aspire to get to the second division across the board and continue organic growth from there.

If all relevant parties (clubs in particular but also schools and co development squads) could find 10% extra from somewhere, and another 10% on top of that the following year, we would be on a much better footing.

That's a lot of buy in required - and some group/body/committee needs to start selling that soon!

Has Gaelfast made no difference then?

You know Antrim has (in football) been rubbish since the 50's?

Will take more than Gaelfast to reverse our fortunes

Would be some turnaround in 4 or 5 years to have us competing with the likes of Tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AMWhat about Handball lol? Or Rounders?

The recent results at Minor or under 20 level are alarming, and yet another wake up call that the gap is widening between the traditionally strongfootball counties and the rest.

As Saffs of 82 says, maybe we are Div 3 across the board, at all levels....in which case we are going to take some hammerings against top Div 1 sides.

We are a fairly prudent bunch here, no one thinks we are able to compete at the top tables. But surely we can aspire to get to the second division across the board and continue organic growth from there.

If all relevant parties (clubs in particular but also schools and co development squads) could find 10% extra from somewhere, and another 10% on top of that the following year, we would be on a much better footing.

That's a lot of buy in required - and some group/body/committee needs to start selling that soon!

Has Gaelfast made no difference then?

You know Antrim has (in football) been rubbish since the 50's?

Will take more than Gaelfast to reverse our fortunes

Would be some turnaround in 4 or 5 years to have us competing with the likes of Tyrone
2009 Ulster Final wasnt rubbish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 12, 2024, 10:56:16 PM
42 years since we won an ulster minor
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 11:08:10 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AMWhat about Handball lol? Or Rounders?

The recent results at Minor or under 20 level are alarming, and yet another wake up call that the gap is widening between the traditionally strongfootball counties and the rest.

As Saffs of 82 says, maybe we are Div 3 across the board, at all levels....in which case we are going to take some hammerings against top Div 1 sides.

We are a fairly prudent bunch here, no one thinks we are able to compete at the top tables. But surely we can aspire to get to the second division across the board and continue organic growth from there.

If all relevant parties (clubs in particular but also schools and co development squads) could find 10% extra from somewhere, and another 10% on top of that the following year, we would be on a much better footing.

That's a lot of buy in required - and some group/body/committee needs to start selling that soon!

Has Gaelfast made no difference then?

You know Antrim has (in football) been rubbish since the 50's?

Will take more than Gaelfast to reverse our fortunes

Would be some turnaround in 4 or 5 years to have us competing with the likes of Tyrone
2009 Ulster Final wasnt rubbish

If you think one visit to Clones in 70 years is progress I can't help you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 13, 2024, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 12, 2024, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AMWhat about Handball lol? Or Rounders?

The recent results at Minor or under 20 level are alarming, and yet another wake up call that the gap is widening between the traditionally strongfootball counties and the rest.

As Saffs of 82 says, maybe we are Div 3 across the board, at all levels....in which case we are going to take some hammerings against top Div 1 sides.

We are a fairly prudent bunch here, no one thinks we are able to compete at the top tables. But surely we can aspire to get to the second division across the board and continue organic growth from there.

If all relevant parties (clubs in particular but also schools and co development squads) could find 10% extra from somewhere, and another 10% on top of that the following year, we would be on a much better footing.

That's a lot of buy in required - and some group/body/committee needs to start selling that soon!

Has Gaelfast made no difference then?

You know Antrim has (in football) been rubbish since the 50's?

Will take more than Gaelfast to reverse our fortunes

Would be some turnaround in 4 or 5 years to have us competing with the likes of Tyrone
2009 Ulster Final wasnt rubbish
Was a fantastic year for us.

Unfortunately we have only won 1 Ulster championship game since.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: antrimman667 on April 13, 2024, 08:07:15 PM
Disappointed with the outcome, game there for the taking, thought keenan, McBride and lynch where superb for the saffs, but needed bodies ahead of the ball. Taking into account the guts of 12 players missing can take heart from this moving into the tailteann
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Spike on April 13, 2024, 08:36:57 PM
That's that for another year.  And we wonder why we can't get kids to buy into the Saffron dream. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 13, 2024, 08:36:57 PMThat's that for another year.  And we wonder why we can't get kids to buy into the Saffron dream. 

They obviously have not been buying in since the 50's

Club is most important thing in this county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 13, 2024, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: Spike on April 13, 2024, 08:36:57 PMThat's that for another year.  And we wonder why we can't get kids to buy into the Saffron dream. 
Sorry, the what....?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sportacus on April 13, 2024, 09:28:05 PM
Couldn't really fault the lads that took the field today.  Plenty of effort and chances were created, but the composure wasn't there to finish them.
If they stay committed and a few come back from injury then another good run in the Tailteann and a big day in Croke Park is still there.
Both teams are a world away from the top level. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 13, 2024, 09:28:05 PMCouldn't really fault the lads that took the field today.  Plenty of effort and chances were created, but the composure wasn't there to finish them.
If they stay committed and a few come back from injury then another good run in the Tailteann and a big day in Croke Park is still there.
Both teams are a world away from the top level. 

You know Antrim are Div3 and needed to win last game to stay up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 13, 2024, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 13, 2024, 09:28:05 PMCouldn't really fault the lads that took the field today.  Plenty of effort and chances were created, but the composure wasn't there to finish them.
If they stay committed and a few come back from injury then another good run in the Tailteann and a big day in Croke Park is still there.
Both teams are a world away from the top level. 

You know Antrim are Div3 and needed to win last game to stay up?
??

Odd reply to that post?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2024, 10:18:48 PM
Yeah it was a reasonable post. I never thought we were a million miles of down but didn't think we could beat them.

Hopefully the players get sent back to their clubs for a bit and we get a few players back from injury and some fitter. Would love to see Loughran and Johnston fit for the half forward line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2024, 10:22:39 PM
I liked McBride's interview afterwards. No more of this brave attempt stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 13, 2024, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on April 13, 2024, 09:28:05 PMCouldn't really fault the lads that took the field today.  Plenty of effort and chances were created, but the composure wasn't there to finish them.
If they stay committed and a few come back from injury then another good run in the Tailteann and a big day in Croke Park is still there.
Both teams are a world away from the top level. 

You know Antrim are Div3 and needed to win last game to stay up?
??

Odd reply to that post?

Saying Antrim (and Down) are worlds away from the top level. Stating the obvious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 13, 2024, 10:34:53 PM
It's another championship match which we could have won, didn't win and travel home thinking about what might have been. Couple of our players posted their least effective games so far this year, maybe nerves or whatever, and we had scoring chances not taken. Down are no great shakes and their shooting is off the charts woeful. It was good to see a bit of fighting spirit from our lads, that and a few returning players may give us a summer yet. Marc Jordan must run 10k per match - he is terrific for us.

I hope Eunan Walsh is ok - that looked pretty serious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lár na páirce 1 on April 14, 2024, 01:07:06 PM
Never looked at any stage like they could have won that game
Wake up if you think otherwise bar a couple individual performances the vast majority were shocking twice I counted so called county players couldnt do the basics of picking the ball off the ground.
Down miles ahead of they hadn't a poor day in front of goal there would have been 10 points in it easily.
Take the saff glasses off lads and call it as it is without the excuses
Top to bottom needs worked on from
Development squads to senior
Dads taking charge of development squads can't happen need good coaches and good habits so these lads are ready for county football may be a start too or there will be a few more hammerings dished out to all ages for the foreseeable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PM
Surely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2024, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PMSurely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.

Yeah, anyone that's not involved on the team getting themselves involved with that type of carry on needs removed, embarrassing altogether.

So glad it never happens at club level...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on April 15, 2024, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2024, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PMSurely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.

Yeah, anyone that's not involved on the team getting themselves involved with that type of carry on needs removed, embarrassing altogether.

So glad it never happens at club level...

fella threw a dig in the heat of the moment, it happens far more than it should, hopefully he apologised after to the other lad. Take the suspension and move on, if it was a player who threw a dig would we be saying he should never play for us again?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on April 15, 2024, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2024, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PMSurely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.

Yeah, anyone that's not involved on the team getting themselves involved with that type of carry on needs removed, embarrassing altogether.

So glad it never happens at club level...

fella threw a dig in the heat of the moment, it happens far more than it should, hopefully he apologised after to the other lad. Take the suspension and move on, if it was a player who threw a dig would we be saying he should never play for us again?

Players are different. Youre in a physical battle on the field. Things are said, contact made, adrenaline etc
The fella throwing boys to the floor and punches is a Statman. 100% should be gone!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EOC1923 on April 15, 2024, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on April 15, 2024, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2024, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PMSurely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.

Yeah, anyone that's not involved on the team getting themselves involved with that type of carry on needs removed, embarrassing altogether.

So glad it never happens at club level...

fella threw a dig in the heat of the moment, it happens far more than it should, hopefully he apologised after to the other lad. Take the suspension and move on, if it was a player who threw a dig would we be saying he should never play for us again?

Players are different. Youre in a physical battle on the field. Things are said, contact made, adrenaline etc
The fella throwing boys to the floor and punches is a Statman. 100% should be gone!!!
Like he said
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 10:39:05 AM
Also slightly pathetic that he sat and let the wrong man be sent off!

I assume hes in a paid role by Antrim GAA, represeting the team on a professional level. Imagine Andy throwing digs. Embarrassing. Pathetic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnnycool on April 15, 2024, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 10:39:05 AMAlso slightly pathetic that he sat and let the wrong man be sent off!

I assume hes in a paid role by Antrim GAA, represeting the team on a professional level. Imagine Andy throwing digs. Embarrassing. Pathetic

Got two with the one punch,  ;D  ;D

https://twitter.com/i/status/1779627298146148461 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1779627298146148461)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2024, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 15, 2024, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on April 15, 2024, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2024, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PMSurely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.

Yeah, anyone that's not involved on the team getting themselves involved with that type of carry on needs removed, embarrassing altogether.

So glad it never happens at club level...

fella threw a dig in the heat of the moment, it happens far more than it should, hopefully he apologised after to the other lad. Take the suspension and move on, if it was a player who threw a dig would we be saying he should never play for us again?

Players are different. Youre in a physical battle on the field. Things are said, contact made, adrenaline etc
The fella throwing boys to the floor and punches is a Statman. 100% should be gone!!!
Like he said

So anyone not named as a player or as a sub, should be thrown out? That's ok? Seen plenty injured players having fisty cuffs during games but because they are players (but not playing) its all part of the craic?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2024, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 15, 2024, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 15, 2024, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on April 15, 2024, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2024, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on April 14, 2024, 10:59:06 PMSurely the guy in the back room team throwing pathetic digs at half time will be removed immediately from the set up, embarrassing stuff.

Yeah, anyone that's not involved on the team getting themselves involved with that type of carry on needs removed, embarrassing altogether.

So glad it never happens at club level...

fella threw a dig in the heat of the moment, it happens far more than it should, hopefully he apologised after to the other lad. Take the suspension and move on, if it was a player who threw a dig would we be saying he should never play for us again?

Players are different. Youre in a physical battle on the field. Things are said, contact made, adrenaline etc
The fella throwing boys to the floor and punches is a Statman. 100% should be gone!!!
Like he said

So anyone not named as a player or as a sub, should be thrown out? That's ok? Seen plenty injured players having fisty cuffs during games but because they are players (but not playing) its all part of the craic?

As said before a player is different

Would you get away with throwing digs in your place of work? (Im guessing hes not there on a voluntary basis, could be wrong) Representing Antrim GAA live on TV

PS Dont agree with injured players
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on April 15, 2024, 02:45:59 PM
Sad news from Lamh Dhearg, Ryan Straney, senior footballer killed in car accident in Sydney. 96 year old man driving the wrong way up the motorway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2024, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 15, 2024, 02:45:59 PMSad news from Lamh Dhearg, Ryan Straney, senior footballer killed in car accident in Sydney. 96 year old man driving the wrong way up the motorway.

Horrendous news. RIP Ryan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bannside on April 15, 2024, 04:13:53 PM
Absolutely shocking news. Thoughts and prayers to the Stranney family. Some things more important than football.
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